[06:08] <blujay> nismo_: sub par?  Try amarok.  Firefox works perfectly, so do extensions.  Resource hog apps?  Like what?  Your printer...can probably be made to work.
[06:08] <TruckerMan> now i got crap half done and dont know what the heck he even did
[06:08] <NxNxmox> so what do i replace it with
[06:09] <nickrud> someone venting, I guess it's over.
[06:09] <gusatvo> qual o cannal do brasil mesmo?
[06:09] <pvd2006> oh intelkey, where is the .profile/.bashrc files located, I did a search for them and it didnt come up with anything
[06:09] <nismo_> amarok shuts down during the middle of a song after 10 mins, firefox extension..... i got mplayer and the bloody thing doesnt work
[06:09] <TruckerMan> i had a feeling it was a bad idea to just go cuttin and pastin my way through this
[06:09] <nismo_> i just got flash workin yesterday outta luck
[06:09] <intelikey> pvd2006 alternatively put it in $HOME/bin (which you can make)  and add  ' export PATH="$PATH;~/bin"   to your  $HOME/.profile   or  $HOME/.bashrc
[06:10] <jsestri2> nickrud: any idea where this problem might reside, in the kernel itself or something that is loaded by the kernel?
[06:10] <intelikey> pvd2006  ^   not a clue.
[06:10] <pvd2006> so I create a .profile in my $HOME directory or is it there as a hidden file?
[06:10] <dyrne> TruckerMan: at what point did the errors begin?
[06:10] <nickrud> intelikey, there's a couple of lines in .bashrc you can just uncomment
[06:10] <casidgcoi> where locate a front-end for gcc?
[06:10] <blujay> nismo_: try a newer version of amarok.  Flash is easy, use EasyUbuntu or something like that.  mplayer is a plugin for Firefox, and no, its' not perfect yet...well, sorry, you have to deal with it.  Pass the URL directly to mplayer or whatever instead of watching it in the browser.  Sorry.  Use the firefox extension that shows you embedded media.
[06:10] <casidgcoi> gcc interface graphic
[06:10] <blujay> hmph, then he leaves
[06:10] <gusatvo> sameone can tell me # from ubuntu brazil ?
[06:10] <TruckerMan> dyrne, well, today or last night?
[06:11] <dyrne> !br
[06:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:11] <TruckerMan> and wich errors
[06:11] <dyrne> TruckerMan: just the error you pasted
[06:11] <TruckerMan> jsut now
[06:11] <intelikey> nickrud ok, i assume some people actually use the default .bashrc    hehhe i haven't in years.
[06:11] <nalioth> TruckerMan: was there a reason for all that flooding ?
[06:11] <TruckerMan> i'm giving up
[06:11] <nickrud> jsestri2, I'm kinda nosing around
[06:11] <zambaboo> hey guys
[06:12] <TruckerMan> i'm gonna read my way through everything from now on
[06:12] <intelikey> nalioth yes it was i temper tantrum
[06:12] <jsestri2> nickrud: alright thanks, i'm looking too, but i am still pretty novice when it comes to the linux kernel
[06:12] <TruckerMan> yes, temper tantrum
[06:12] <zambaboo> when i nmap my own machine, a black frame shows up around my desktop. i am guessing this is because port 5500 is open.. am i right?
[06:12] <TruckerMan> ban me, this systems screwed anyhow
[06:13] <TruckerMan> nobody can fix it, not even crimsun
[06:13] <TruckerMan> he's probly busy hacking my system right now,
[06:13] <dyrne> TruckerMan: well if you have nothing to lose you can always upgrade to dapper :)
[06:13] <stinkbait> dapper's available?
[06:13] <TruckerMan> i already lost my windows part
[06:14] <intelikey> hmmm if you have nothing to loose, you can always loose nothing....
[06:14] <TruckerMan> i dont even have a cd burner
[06:14] <FlannelKing> stinkbait: flight6 is.
[06:14] <blujay> zambaboo: a black frame?
[06:14] <dyrne> TruckerMan: just change every instance of breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list to dapper sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:15] <nickrud> jsestri2, rule of thumb: kernel calls init (configured in /etc/inittab) , which calls /etc/rcS.d/* then /etc/rc2.d/*
[06:15] <dyrne> TruckerMan: i take no responsibility though
[06:15] <jsestri2> nickrud: alright, would any log help you? dmesg, kernel.log?
[06:15] <zambaboo> blujay, yep, thick black frame
[06:15] <TruckerMan> i shoulda just learned it myself, DONT JUST CUT AND PASTE KIDS it only works for as long as the person your paste source is right ther holding your hand,
[06:15] <konfuzed> TruckerMan, now thats the classic linux support you can really count on
[06:16] <blujay> zambaboo: what are you running?  KDE, gnome...?
[06:16] <TruckerMan> konfuzed, ?
[06:16] <nickrud> jsestri2, this was my last hurrah here, it's late. I'd try rebooting and see if the modules load now.
[06:16] <zambaboo> blujay, vanilla breezy
[06:16] <TruckerMan> stupid irc?
[06:16] <blujay> zambaboo: still, are you using KDE or GNOME or what?
[06:16] <jsestri2> nickrud: i have been restarting, thats when they stopped working...
[06:16] <konfuzed> TruckerMan, dyrne previous two statements
[06:16] <zambaboo> blujay, gnome
[06:17] <zambaboo> nmap me on port 5500 real quick
[06:17] <konfuzed> TruckerMan, but yes you shold have learned it yourself
[06:17] <blujay> zambaboo: and when you say you nmap your own machine, exactly what command are you using?
[06:17] <TruckerMan> konfuzed, damn straight
[06:17] <konfuzed> thats rule number two to surviving owning a computer
[06:17] <zambaboo> blujay, nmap <my external ip>
[06:17] <stikif> who do i enable identd in ubuntu
[06:17] <TruckerMan> yeah,ok,whatever
[06:17] <nickrud> jsestri2, hotplug is supposed to handle loading modules (psmouse is an exception there)
[06:17] <blujay> zambaboo: first please show me the command you've used that's caused it
[06:17] <TruckerMan> give a damn about a rule
[06:18] <jsestri2> nickrud: therein lies the problem probaly, I'm running dapper, i figured this might be a more general problem
[06:18] <zambaboo> blujay, like i said, nmap <my external ip>
[06:18] <blujay> zambaboo: oh...that's it?  ok...how long does the black frame remain on screen?
[06:18] <nickrud> jsestri2, doh. hotplug disappeared in dapper, it's all done thru udev now, and I have not brushed up on it.
[06:18] <zambaboo> blujay less than a second.
[06:19] <jsestri2> nickrud: udev eh? i guess i'll have to read up on that
[06:19] <blujay> zambaboo: hm...strange.  do you happen to have KDE or XFCE installed as well?
[06:19] <intelikey> stikif stikif is ?identd installed ?
[06:19] <jsestri2> nickrud: one more question
[06:19] <zambaboo> blujay, i have windowmaker installed and i also have vncviewer -listen running, so please disregard, i just answered my own question. :)
[06:19] <blujay> zambaboo: haha, ok
[06:20] <mram> do you guys know of any way to get ati tools for a radeon 7000 working in ubuntu?
[06:20] <jsestri2> nickrud: if the same problem is happening for psmouse as the rest (module dependencies hasn't been created) where would the errors end up?
[06:20] <wd3> just installed xfce and my right click not working, also my minimized and x button on aren't displaying.
[06:20] <painkiler> hey guys
[06:20] <nickrud> jsestri2, between /var/log/dmesg & /var/log/syslog
[06:21] <painkiler> if i update my packages, will i get the latest nvidia drivers?
[06:21] <kinection> hello, is there a good way to convert wma to oggs? I can use mplayer and oggenc and type a statement. but how would i convert a whole directory? Is there a program or better way to do that? So far I can only do it one at a time.
[06:21] <nickrud> jsestri2, and you might find the answer in seconds on #dapper+1 (if you're lucky and have the right person watching)
[06:22] <nickrud> jsestri2, erm, #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <jsestri2> nickrud: been trying, thanks for the help though
[06:22] <graft> ubuntu+1?
[06:22] <nickrud> jsestri2, I wish you luck.
[06:22] <nickrud> graft, help on the next version of ubuntu
[06:22] <stikif> kinection,:  im not familiar with the syntax of those command but couldn't you use wildcards to batch modify a directory
[06:22] <intelikey> kinection find the cli converter and use a for statement   or better yet   a find  statement.
[06:23] <graft> ah... dapper?
[06:23] <nickrud> graft, currently
[06:23] <pvd2006> intelkey, I found the bash_profile file and added export PATH="$PATH;$HOME/bin" to it, how do I get it to run now? the script is called sumoru and now when I type, sumoru it still says command found even though its in that directory. I restarted the terminal.
[06:23] <graft> man this madwifi driver is annoying
[06:23] <pvd2006> command not found*
[06:23] <_jason> pvd2006: use a : not a ;
[06:23] <slavik> is that a semi colon?
[06:23] <nickrud> pvd2006, that ; needs to be a colon
[06:23] <jsestri2> nickrud: is it bad if there is nothing in the system log for a long time?
[06:23] <nickrud> jsestri2, depends, but usually
[06:24] <stikif> intelikey,  isn't identd part of inetd i didn't think you had to install it as a seperate package
[06:25] <intelikey> pvd2006 that's only read by bash on login/or perhaps terminal open.     and i hope you used the correct syntax, as nickrub pointed out.
[06:25] <asdf25> is there a way of making KDE programs use GTK themes?
[06:25] <kinection> stikif: I need the output files to all have different names.. not sure how to do that with wildcards
[06:26] <slavik> kde programs use qt
[06:26] <graft> asdf25: yeah, it's an option in styles menu or something
[06:26] <graft> err no wait... sorry, i thought you wanted the reverse
[06:26] <jsestri2> nickrud: still there? i noticed this in my system log: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
[06:26] <asdf25> heheh yeah... i can't find it the other way around
[06:26] <River> can anyone tell me the name of the package to install to firefox1.5 that will work like the java plugins it is asking for ?
[06:26] <stikif> kinection, then use a bash for loop, something like for g in `ls *.mp3`; do mplayer $g .... ; done;
[06:26] <intelikey> stikif  idk  but there are sever identd apps listed in the repos,   i've never used it.  and know nothing about.   so i only asked if it was installed.  sorry to ask a foolish question.
[06:27] <graft> River: just install the java plugin...
[06:27] <_jason> River: you have to manually do the symlinks for firefox1.5
[06:27] <River> graft: too easy .. that won'r break it ?
[06:27] <nickrud> jsestri2, yes, and yikes!
[06:27] <mohanram> river: are asking about j2re?
[06:27] <kinection> stikif: i'll try that... never known how to use a bash loop before
[06:27] <River> _jason .. yes .. done the symlink thingys
[06:27] <graft> River: um... you'll have to put up with stupid java apps all the time
[06:28] <River> mohanran: I do not know
[06:28] <_jason> River: and after a restart firefox doesn't use java?
[06:28] <jsestri2> nickrud: could you pastebin your syslog?
[06:28] <mohanram> river: try synaptic and install j2re, just search for java and scroll down to j2re
[06:28] <graft> actually most plugins don't require restarting
[06:28] <_jason> I mean restarting firefox
[06:29] <graft> yeah so did i
[06:29] <pschmitt> I'm a first-time ubuntu user.... I just installed Breezy and mp3's wont play!  In totem, I get "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"  and rhythmbox says, "this file is not an audiostream"...  I know my sound works because macromedia flash files play correctlky... any ideas???
[06:29] <_jason> oh
[06:29] <intelikey> !codecs
[06:29] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell pschmitt about mp3
[06:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell pschmitt about multimedia
[06:30] <intelikey> ubotu: tell pschmitt about vlc
[06:30] <_jason> information overload for pschmitt :)
[06:30] <River> _jason: have just upgraded to ff1.5 from a lower version so the new one has no plugins ..
[06:30] <intelikey> ubotu: tell pschmitt about restricted formats
[06:30] <mohanram> ubugtu: ati radeon 700 tools
[06:30] <_jason> River: yes
[06:30] <mohanram> ubugtu: tell mohanram about ati radeon 700 tools
[06:31] <River> mohanran: the j2re in synaptic eas not the latest version and didn't work ./..
[06:31] <_jason> River: can you pastebin 'ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ /opt/firefox/plugins/' ?
[06:31] <mohanram> river: hmm, interesting
[06:31] <nickrud> jsestri2, I zgrepped some old logs (I haven't booted for a while) and have the same message during bootup, but no problems
[06:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there?
[06:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you know where i can find a list of DNS server IP?
[06:32] <jsestri2> nickrud: false alarm then, bummer
[06:32] <pvd2006> to read the first argument giving to a shell script you would use read $1 right
[06:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have the local DNS server down and i can't use internet on some windows machines
[06:32] <pvd2006> ?
[06:32] <graft> Tallia1Kubuntu: where you at?
[06:32] <_jason> pvd2006: yes
[06:32] <intelikey> pvd2006 yep
[06:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> graft: ? where am i? i am in vancouver
[06:33] <intelikey> all args = $*
[06:33] <graft> oh... well if you're willing to put up with slowness, you can use the MIT DNS servers...
[06:33] <_jason> pvd2006: well why are you doing 'read $1'?
[06:33] <pvd2006> _jason, I got an error that says /usr/local/bin/sumoru: line 1: read: `password.plx': not a valid identifier
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> graft, ok, why not
[06:33] <_jason> pvd2006: $1 is the first argument, you don't need to read it
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> at least it will work... what do you mean by slowness?
[06:33] <pvd2006> I created a little script to automatically sudo chmod 755 a script file and then run it
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> graft how much slow is it?
[06:33] <pvd2006> by typing in sumoru filename
[06:33] <pschmitt> intelikey and _jason:  Thanks!!! :)
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> graft: do you think my local university has one too?
[06:34] <IamEthos> I have an inspiron 9100, that has S-Video out (via an adapter). How can I set up dual monitors using the s-video out as a second monitor?
[06:34] <pvd2006> thats right...
[06:34] <pvd2006> thanks _Jason
[06:34] <nathanael> A dock in Gnome?
[06:34] <graft> Tallia1Kubuntu: well you have to connect across the country for them
[06:34] <graft> Tall	almost certainly... UBC?
[06:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see.. let me check
[06:35] <intelikey> hehhe pvd2006 a shell script saying 'while [ "$1" != "" ]  ;do echo "$1" ;shift ;done '   <--- input some args and watch....
[06:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> SFU
[06:35] <mohanram> anyone know how to get ati tools working?
[06:35] <graft> SFU? in Vancouver?
[06:36] <River> _jason : what is the pastebin add pleae ?
[06:36] <_jason> River: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ it's in /topic if you need it in the future
[06:36] <River> _jason : thanks ..i will try to remember that
[06:37] <graft> anyway Tallia1Kubuntu the MIT nameservers are <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:37] <graft> those oughta work
[06:37] <pvd2006> hmm, let me try it
[06:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[06:37] <graft> also <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:38] <_jason> intelikey: that's a nice one
[06:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[06:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[06:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will go and try
[06:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[06:39] <pvd2006> ah intelkey I see, ;)
[06:39] <River> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11934
[06:39] <Cloud_tm> Hello?
[06:40] <Cloud_tm> I need help with Stepmania, can anyone help me?
[06:40] <_jason> River: put a space after /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[06:40] <_jason> River: can you pastebin 'ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ /opt/firefox/plugins/' ?
[06:41] <stikif> hmm how come my inetd.conf file is blank?
[06:41] <intelikey> _jason i could have gotten fancy ad did something like 'export q=1 ;while [ "$1" != "" ]  ;do echo "$q $1" ;$(($q + 1)) ;shift ;done '
[06:41] <intelikey> that will number each one for you.
[06:41] <River> _jason: apologies for the stoopid questions .. but how do I copy your code from this chat ?
[06:42] <_jason> River: highlight it to copy, then middle click to paste
[06:42] <_jason> intelikey: cool, write one that factors products of huge primes now please :)
[06:42] <River> _jason : too easy again ! Thanks !!
[06:43] <intelikey> in some GUI's you will need to ^c after highlighting   then ^v  to paste.   fvwm is one of them.
[06:43] <intelikey> _jason someone beet me to it.  it's called "bc"
[06:44] <River> _jason : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11935
[06:44] <boodeey> hi all
[06:44] <_jason> River: you install java drom a deb?
[06:45] <_jason> River: or from repositories?
[06:45] <boodeey> i'm a newbie on linux ... somebody help me .....
[06:45] <_jason> !helpme
[06:45] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:45] <boodeey> where can i get driver for this linux ?
[06:45] <_jason> boodeey: a driver for what?
[06:46] <boodeey> modem -> intel HAM ... i can't get from the official website
[06:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell boodeey about dialup
[06:46] <River> _jason: afaik from the sun site JRE download thingy .. don't remember if it was deb or a straight installer
[06:46] <_jason> boodeey: see if that apge helps
[06:47] <_jason> River: ok you probably ran the .bin directly since you have no plugins
[06:47] <intelikey> apge _jason ?
[06:47] <intelikey> oh nm
[06:48] <River> _jason: you could be right .. does that mean I need to go and find the java plugins for linux ?
[06:48] <_jason> River: pastebin 'locate libjavaplug_oji.so'
[06:48] <boodeey> i ever use suse, mandriva and fedora core in my PC ... but only 3 days long ... i just have unfamiliar system with it
[06:48] <_jason> River: pastebin 'locate libjavaplugin_oji.so'
[06:48] <Half-Left> anyone use monodevelop?
[06:48] <asdf25> is "cp -ax / /media/Linux2" the right way to make an exact copy of my root partition?
[06:48] <boodeey> but ubuntu .... 2 weeks already .... the UBUNTU name have a magical magnitize thing
[06:49] <River> cd
[06:49] <_jason> boodeey: did you see your private message from ubotu?
[06:49] <intelikey> tar -cf - /mnt/drive | tar -xf - -C /mnt/newdrivetty
[06:49] <boodeey> ooops .... i close it .... may i have it again?
[06:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> asdf25: be carefull. it might recurse into /media/Linux2 and copy it as well
[06:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell boodeey about dialup
[06:50] <asdf25> Kamping_Kaiser: nah that's what the -x is for... i think it works
[06:50] <clever> why doesnt ubuntu's smbmount work at all when trying to mount a win98 shared folder?
[06:50] <intelikey> asdf25 preferably tar.  to  preserve links and permissions
[06:50] <intelikey> dd is good
[06:50] <Mush-> quick install question...i'm running osx 10.4.6 and wanted to get used to ubuntu on here before i get a new pc and ... was just wondering how i can go about running it dually?
[06:51] <Mush-> should i run it from within osx through terminal?
[06:51] <River> _jason that command line gets no response
[06:51] <asdf25> intelikey: yeah, the -a makes it preserve those things
[06:51] <_jason> River: how about 'java -version' ?
[06:51] <intelikey> asdf25 i would probably use mc
[06:52] <SuperLag> which package has gmake?
[06:52] <patrick24601> ok here is an odd isse
[06:52] <patrick24601> issue
[06:52] <patrick24601> I cannot su to root
[06:52] <River> _jason ... r u sure you want me to paste ALL of that ?!/
[06:52] <na7e> hello everyone
[06:52] <patrick24601> It always tells me I have the wrong password - yet I know it is right
[06:52] <clever> why doesnt ubuntu's smbmount work at all when trying to mount a win98 shared folder?
[06:52] <asdf25> patrick24601: sudo su
[06:52] <_jason> River: no just wanted to make sure it worked.  Do 'sudo updatedb && locate libjavaplugin_oji.so'
[06:53] <patrick24601> so I cannot just do a plain su? interesting
[06:53] <asdf25> patrick24601: or just use sudo
[06:53] <intelikey> patrick24601 when did you set the root password ?
[06:53] <patrick24601> I believe during install but I really don't remember doing it
[06:53] <intelikey> !root
[06:53] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:53] <clever> su needs a password on root and root on ubuntu has no password by default
[06:54] <intelikey> there is NO apssword on this system.
[06:54] <patrick24601> sudo su works - thanks
[06:54] <clever> by no pass i mean a invalid pass
[06:54] <Madpilot> patrick24601, by default Ubuntu uses sudo + your user pw
[06:54] <SuperLag> Which package contains gmake? is it something you need to add development repos to sources.list for?
[06:54] <intelikey> none what so ever
[06:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> graft: thnx, now my friend can connect correctly! :)
[06:54] <River> _jason: oops ..that made it hang
[06:54] <_jason> River: that will take a few minutes
[06:55] <_jason> SuperLag: build-essential
[06:55] <intelikey> i have only one user account, and it's password is locked, and root's passwd is locked.   :)
[06:55] <_jason> SuperLag: and it's just 'make'
[06:55] <Ryannnnnnn> yo dude
[06:55] <Ryannnnnnn> u here?
[06:56] <_jason> intelikey: how do you login?
[06:56] <Ryannnnnnn> sumone please help me
[06:56] <Ryannnnnnn> Anyone please :(
[06:56] <asdf25> hahahahaha
[06:56] <_jason> !helpme
[06:56] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:56] <intelikey> _jason login is not possable on this box.
[06:56] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, stop spamming, and ask an actual question, and you might get help...
[06:56] <_jason> intelikey: that makes sense
[06:57] <River> _jason: ok .. nothing appeared to happen ..
[06:57] <Ryannnnnnn> well madpilot there was another guy in red here like you
[06:57] <Ryannnnnnn> his name started with a P
[06:57] <Ryannnnnnn> he told me to do sumthing and i had to completly format
[06:57] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, there's 657 people here - and anything that starts in red just means it's got your nick in the line...
[06:58] <Mush-> lol
[06:58] <intelikey> hehhe it also only has runlevels 0,1,6  i use  1 allways  but 0 is incase of emergency repairs
[06:58] <_jason> River: k... ls /usr/lib/*j2re*/plugin/*/ns7/
[06:58] <Mush-> would it be a good idea to run ubuntu through terminal while running osx?
[06:58] <Ryannnnnnn> well madpilot you see i partioned Xp and ubunto and then another guy like u tried to help me but it got worse and ubunto wouldent work at all when i first installed ubunto worked PErfect but it wouldent let me boot into xp
[06:58] <SuperLag> _jason: there is make.  I have build-essential already, but the source install for postgres calls for gmake.
[06:59] <River> _jason: no such file or directory
[06:59] <_jason> SuperLag: gmake is gnu-make afaik, that's just make on ubuntu
[06:59] <Mush-> rather, should i be fine...to install ubuntu on my mac?
[06:59] <_jason> River: we have to figure out where java is installed... pastebin ls /usr/lib
[07:00] <_jason> River: or you can do some hunting yourself, like locate j2re I guess
[07:00] <intelikey> can't you  ' find / -name java ' ?
[07:00] <Ryannnnnnn> u there?
[07:00] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, I've never done dualbooting, I know zip about it. You'll have to give more detail as to what you were trying and what went wrong, someone else in the channel might be able to help you
[07:01] <Ryannnnnnn> Ok madpilot i have other things u might be able to help me with.
[07:01] <keherman> Why does the cupsys service change permissions on /etc/cups/printers.conf to disable world-readability?
[07:01] <intelikey> _jason did he updatedb sense the install of it ?
[07:01] <Ryannnnnnn> I also want to see how Big this drive is on unbunto where do i go?
[07:01] <_jason> intelikey: yeah
[07:01] <intelikey> k
[07:01] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, please just ask the channel, I'm actually busy with other stuff
[07:01] <Ryannnnnnn> Ok everyone can anyone else halp me?
[07:02] <Ryannnnnnn> help*
[07:02] <River> _jason : I was just going to suggest that I stop wasting your time and go find the plugins locale ... i will come back when I find them as the ls /usr/lib command response is way long ... I'll come back l8r .. thanks for your help
[07:02] <_jason> River: ha do this: readlink -f `which java`
[07:02] <_jason> River: nah I'm just killing some minutes before I go to bed
[07:02] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, just ask questions here, don't ask to ask...
[07:02] <Ryannnnnnn> Ok
[07:02] <graveson> how can i convert wmv,rm and avi files to dvd ?
[07:03] <Mush-> n/m just found my answer
[07:03] <Ryannnnnnn> Can anyone tell me where to go to see my Harddrive size on ubunto?
[07:03] <Mush-> i guess i can't install linux in osx....has to be adjacent to osx
[07:03] <River> _jason: bed ??in the middle of the arvo ?? you must be State side !
[07:03] <_jason> River: yeah
[07:03] <dell500> is there an easy way to backup 190 gigs onto dvds?
[07:03] <asdf25> ryan: df -h
[07:04] <devians> what would be the command to compress a heap of files and some directories recursively with highest compression?
[07:04] <devians> writing a backup script for some areas of /var/www/
[07:04] <Mush-> delll probably 1 by 1 :)
[07:04] <River> _jason:  it said /usr/bin/gij-4.0
[07:05] <graft> devians: tar -cjf yourfilename.tar.bz2 <directory>
[07:05] <intelikey> tar -cjf <archivename>.tar.bz2  <all the crap to compress>
[07:05] <Mush-> or firewire to an external?
[07:05] <Ryannnnnnn> what asdf?
[07:05] <devians> okiday, many thanks
[07:05] <_jason> River: heh I should have asked for that paste of java-version afterall.  Ok, no worries, I'll give you a link to get the sun java deb
[07:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell River about javadebs
[07:05] <_jason> River: you comfortable making symlinks?
[07:05] <tool> crimsun, are you on?
[07:06] <River> _jason: fairly .. as long as the instructions are good and i can play it out in my head first ...
[07:06] <crimsun> tool: yes, but I'm busy.
[07:06] <asdf25> ryan: that's the command to see hard drive space
[07:06] <graveson> anyone ?
[07:06] <FlannelKing> asdf25: df (disk free)
[07:07] <River> _jason: thanks for the link .. I will go and try to fix it .. thanks heaps ..have a gr8 sleep !
[07:07] <FlannelKing> oh, that! not what.  bother.
[07:07] <_jason> River: ok, once you install the j2re from Seveas's site, you have to symlink the java plugin from your /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ to /opt/firefox/plugins/.  This should do it: 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*java* /opt/firefox/plugins/' but check...
[07:07] <_jason> River: night
[07:07] <tool> crimsun, when you get some time can you tell me how to undo whatever you did, this is TruckerMan by the way.  i gotta go back to work tommorrow and i want to undo whatever it is i pasted so i can start over and study it myself. i wont have internet on the road
[07:07] <Ryannnnnnn> I dont see it
[07:07] <intelikey> graveson idk.  i don't have a dvd player so i haven't ever taken an interest in that.
[07:07] <Ryannnnnnn> in gbs though
[07:07] <Ryannnnnnn> Can sumone explain this to me
[07:08] <Ryannnnnnn> tmpfs                 252M     0  252M   0% /dev/shm
[07:08] <Ryannnnnnn> tmpfs                 252M   13M  240M   5% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[07:08] <Ryannnnnnn> /dev/hda1             228M   19M  198M   9% /boot
[07:08] <Ryannnnnnn> /dev/sda2             893M  886M  6.8M 100% /media/ipod
[07:08] <asdf25> you could run gparted to see stuff about all the partitions... df just shows one's you have mounted
[07:08] <graft> um
[07:08] <Ryannnnnnn> whats gparted
[07:08] <Ryannnnnnn> and how do i run it
[07:09] <Ryannnnnnn> < n00b
[07:09] <graft> Ryannnnnnn: can you put the full output in the pastebin?
[07:09] <graft> !paste
[07:09] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:09] <asdf25> it's a program
[07:09] <asdf25> and you run it the same way you run any other program
[07:09] <Ryannnnnnn> Well im a noob dude lol
[07:09] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, first: do not paste to the channel - second, the column there that starts with "252M" is the sizes of each partition, in megabytes
[07:09] <intelikey> asdf25 wrong answer.
[07:10] <asdf25> and you install it with "sudo apt-get install gparted" if it's not installed already
[07:10] <intelikey> it's not a pointy clicky thingy .....
[07:10] <J-Rod> lol
[07:10] <asdf25> it is if you have it installed in gnome...
[07:10] <crimsun> tool: to undo?
[07:10] <Ryannnnnnn> how do i access it then
[07:10] <asdf25> Applications->System Tools->gparted
[07:11] <crimsun> tool: just make sure there's nothing related to snd-nm256 in /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, then erase /etc/modprobe.d/snd-nm256
[07:11] <intelikey> asdf25 there you go....  :)
[07:11] <tool> thats it?
[07:11] <Ryannnnnnn> I dont have that asdf
[07:11] <intelikey> now synaptic
[07:11] <asdf25> then open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[07:11] <crimsun> tool: yes. If it worked for you yesterday, why does it not work now? The exact same procedure was used.
[07:11] <intelikey> !synaptic
[07:11] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:11] <asdf25> terminal is Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[07:11] <tool> did you get the message the last you gave me didnt work and what worked yesterday doesnt work now
[07:12] <tool> got me
[07:12] <intelikey> synaptic
[07:12] <tool> maybe cuz i used sudo at the beginning that one time
[07:12] <crimsun> tool: I hope you've been pasting the commands I've given you as _one_ line
[07:12] <crimsun> tool: because breaking them into separate lines is ineffectual
[07:13] <Ryannnnnnn> ok i got it open
[07:13] <Ryannnnnnn> how do i know which Parition is the one im using?
[07:13] <tool> ah, once i split | that thing into two commands, then tried it together
[07:13] <tool> err the other way around
[07:13] <asdf25> um... it's the one that says "Mounted on /" when you run df -h
[07:14] <Madpilot> Ryannnnnnn, how did you set up your partitions when you installed Ubuntu?
[07:14] <crimsun> tool: in any case, I've told you how to "undo" whatever was done.
[07:14] <tool> ok
[07:14] <tool> thanks
[07:14] <Ryannnnnnn> well it was like this i currently had XP and i used norton partiioner and installed It then created a partion for a linux os.. it asked me if i wanted it infront of my windows (better performance i clicked yes)
[07:14] <Ryannnnnnn> I wanna access my windows part but i Cant.
[07:15] <asdf25> you can't boot windows?
[07:15] <Ryannnnnnn> nope
[07:15] <J-Rod> did grub not install? or any kind of boot loader?
[07:15] <Ryannnnnnn> whats grub?
[07:15] <Ryannnnnnn> wait i think it did
[07:15] <Ryannnnnnn> im not sure
[07:16] <asdf25> it's the thing with a list of OS's to start when you boot
[07:16] <asdf25> Windows should probably be on it already
[07:16] <J-Rod> yeah, it'll proably be on the bottom of the list
[07:16] <Ryannnnnnn> im looken at g parted it says size mb 243 file system ext3 for one then another one extended 76,050 mb
[07:16] <Ryannnnnnn> then another unknown one saying 76.050
[07:16] <asdf25> but i think Windows might only be able to boot from the first partition on a disk... not sure about that
[07:17] <devians> that worked perfectly, ty all very much
[07:17] <Ryannnnnnn> i Know its on it but i dunno how to access it
[07:17] <J-Rod> if its NTFS, yeah, i think you're right asdf25
[07:17] <jsestri2> would somebody please list the files in their /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ directory?
[07:17] <intelikey> tool normally (if the help is from a professionsal(R) )  then what ever is within the quotes/dubble quotes they give  is to be copy and pasted as one command, unless it contains <blah>  then  blah is to be replaced with approprate info.  and the <> that incased it is dropped.    that is standard help syntax  :)
[07:17] <Ryannnnnnn> how do i access it from my ubunto system like browse the drive or whatever?
[07:17] <Jennitalia> I'm trying to get the PPC liveCD to boot on my  mac G4 400 but i get a black screen at the end of the bootup
[07:17] <FlannelKing> Ryannnnnnn: you'll have to mount it.
[07:17] <FlannelKing> !ntfs
[07:17] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:17] <asdf25> does an ntfs partition show up in gparted?
[07:17] <Ryannnnnnn> whats that mean :/
[07:18] <InnerFIRE> is there a program that will allow me to cut and edit long mp3s
[07:18] <InnerFIRE> there is a certain song i like, but its on an album someone made.. i dont want the other song, just that certain one
[07:18] <J-Rod> Jennitalia, you should look at the boot options... I've never used the PPC before, but I know for my install to work, i've gotta use "linux vga=771"
[07:19] <Madpilot> InnerFIRE, Audacity
[07:19] <babo> Has anyone here ever installed a voip service (skype etc ... ) on ubuntu64 ?
[07:19] <Jennitalia> how do you enter boot options on a liveCD?
[07:19] <tool> intelikey, yeah, what if the quotes are within the command and besides his nick aint crimsunPRO and who fucking cares anyhow, theres no need for you.
[07:19] <J-Rod> with the Function Keys
[07:20] <InnerFIRE> easy to use?
[07:20] <Mush-> anyone on mac?
[07:20] <InnerFIRE> say...
[07:20] <InnerFIRE> i tell it i want it to cut the first 25 minutes of the album?
[07:20] <sethk> Jennitalia, you can use vga=ask if you don't know what number to use
[07:20] <tool> for all i know he could been just another chode like you intelikey
[07:20] <Madpilot> InnerFIRE, I think you can, I've only used it once to get some static off the end of a track
[07:21] <intelikey> tool that's nice.
[07:21] <Madpilot> tool, be polite or be kicked
[07:21] <Jennitalia> sethk your answer wen t right over my head
[07:21] <tool> i'll try
[07:21] <intelikey> Madpilot ah let it slide. he aint bothering me.
[07:21] <tool> i just think its hilarious the way people kiss arse in life
[07:21] <sethk> Jennitalia, someone told you to try vga=771, or some number.  I was telling you that if you don't know the number, you can use vga=ask and it will display a menu for you
[07:22] <cafuego> Mush-: more or less
[07:22] <Ryannnn> everyone it dosent even give me a choice of diff os's at the start
[07:22] <Ryannnn> so it got deleted or what?
[07:22] <Jennitalia> yeah but i don't know the context
[07:22] <ardchoille> I installed Dapper flight 6. anyone know how to change the ubuntu main menu idon to another icon?
[07:22] <tool> expecially americans they prefer to worship the creature over the creator
[07:22] <sethk> Jennitalia, the kernel line in your grub.conf (aka menu.lst) file
[07:22] <asdf25> ryan: you mean there's only 1 thing in the list, or there's no list and it just automatically boots ubuntu?
[07:22] <GuardianAtomos> Question. I know my monitor can support a higher resolution than I'm currently allowed to display. How can I force the monitor to change to a resolution that I define?
[07:22] <Jennitalia> grub?
[07:23] <Ryannnn> it automaticly boots, it says sumthing about grub then a countdown then it auto boots
[07:23] <Madpilot> tool, quit, before I do boot you...
[07:23] <Jennitalia> i'm trying to boot from a liveCD
[07:23] <J-Rod> okay, haha, i get the pastebin thing now...
[07:23] <sethk> Jennitalia, then you get to the command by typing e at the boot prompt
[07:23] <tool> Madpilot, i'm not swearing, but ok, i'm off  my rant now
[07:23] <Jennitalia> what boot prompt, i don't get a boot prompt
[07:24] <asdf25> ryan: ok... which partition has windows on it? as in, /dev/hda1, something like that, gparted should say it
[07:24] <FlannelKing> Ryannnn: you want to push the button (that it says) when it asks about grub.  It'll say something about pressing something to view grub menu, or whatnot.
[07:24] <graveson> how an i search the repo's from the command line as i do with synaptic manager
[07:24] <FlannelKing> graveson: apt-cache search [stuff]
[07:24] <sethk> Jennitalia, you don't get a grub display when you boot the CD with different options?
[07:24] <Mush-> cafuego: cool
[07:24] <InnerFIRE> it says there is an error initializing the i/0
[07:24] <Hobbsee> graveson: apt-cache search
[07:24] <Mush-> how would i go about creating a partition for ubuntu
[07:24] <Ryannnn> g parted says i got 3 things in total
[07:24] <Mush-> and... how big do you think i should make it?
[07:24] <asdf25> FlannelKing: haha... that's funny... i hope that fixes his problem
[07:24] <sethk> Jennitalia, or possibly just grub> ?
[07:24] <Ryannnn> it dosent say which is Windows or whatever
[07:24] <InnerFIRE> is there something else i should install?
[07:24] <Jennitalia> sethk: i'm on a mac
[07:25] <asdf25> the ntfs one is Windows
[07:25] <sethk> Jennitalia, shouldn't matter
[07:25] <Ryannnn> it dosent say ntfs
[07:25] <sethk> Jennitalia, the prompt is different but you should still get a prompt.
[07:25] <Ryannnn> the file system is ext3 extended and unknown
[07:25] <Ryannnn> for the 3
[07:25] <sethk> Jennitalia, I've done embedded ppc work, but it should be similar
[07:25] <asdf25> you have only one hard drive?
[07:25] <sethk> Jennitalia, then again, it is a mac ...
[07:25] <cafuego> Mush-: 1) Back up your stuff. 2) ake sure you have around 6GB min of free space, then boot the Ubuntu CD. The installer will allow you to resize the OSX partition.
[07:25] <Ryannnn> It says
[07:25] <Ryannnn> hda1
[07:25] <cafuego> Jennitalia: On a mac, you get 2 prompts.
[07:25] <Ryannnn> hda2
[07:25] <Ryannnn> hda5
[07:26] <cafuego> Jennitalia: On the first one, you can pick (l)inux, os(x) or (o)penfirmware
[07:26] <intelikey> Ryannnn is 5 the ext3 ?
[07:26] <babo> Can anyone tell me why one library would have a symbols table and other one wouldn't ... ?
[07:26] <Mush-> caf: sweet:
[07:26] <cafuego> Jennitalia: If you pick Linux, you get he normal linux kernel listing (yaboot) menu.
[07:26] <Mush-> so no reinstalling os x
[07:26] <Mush->  ?
[07:26] <babo> Theoretically speaking ...
[07:26] <Ryannnn> No the 1 is ext3
[07:26] <sethk> babo, you can strip the symbols from a file to make the file smaller
[07:26] <intelikey> then 5 is the ntfs
[07:26] <cafuego> Mush-: No need to, _BUT_ the resize _may_ mess up.
[07:26] <Mush-> hrmm hopefully not
[07:26] <Mush-> yeah i backe dup eamil the other day
[07:27] <J-Rod> Alright, time for my problem...
[07:27] <Mush-> i'll just do doc's and stuff too
[07:27] <cafuego> Mush-: And many people accidentally delete their windows/macos partitons when they try to resize. ;-)
[07:27] <Mush-> cafuego: is it pretty straight forward?
[07:27] <J-Rod> I've had a hell of a time getting X to run so I can get a gui on this laptop
[07:27] <babo> sethk: as I understand, symbol tables are used for debugging right ? ... and that they basically contain a map between variables and their corresponding values ? correct ?
[07:27] <Jennitalia> cafuego: i didn't see it when i tried maybe i missed it.
[07:27] <cafuego> Mush-: I think so, but I've used Linux for over a decade...
[07:27] <J-Rod> I finally got KDE up and running, however, I don't have network access now...
[07:27] <intelikey> 2 is the base of 5    i.e. 1 is a primary and 2 is an extended containing 5
[07:27] <Mush-> LOL
[07:27] <Mush-> you don't count then
[07:27] <cafuego> Jennitalia: Depending on the Mac model, the first menu may not be dispalyed...
[07:27] <asdf25> if none of the hda partitions are listed as ntfs filesystem, it sounds like you deleted your Windows partition.. unless you have more than one hard drive
[07:28] <Mush-> caf: yeah i'll give it a try
[07:28] <Mush-> i'm debating on ... riskin' it
[07:28] <sethk> babo, basically, yes
[07:28] <Mush-> maybe i'll try on laptop first
[07:28] <sethk> babo, there are actually two symbol tables
[07:28] <comrade> does anyone know how to get mp4s playing in xmms or rhythm, I downloaded libmp4.so but I can't get xmms to pick it up even when I put it in /usr/lib/xmms/Input/
[07:28] <babo> .so libraries are shared and .a are static correct ?
[07:28] <Jennitalia> cafuego: mac g4 400mhz agp
[07:28] <Mush-> caf: so you think 6 gig is enough?
[07:28] <J-Rod> I try to search for them, but it just sits there for a while looking for stuff
[07:28] <cafuego> Mush-: I personally prefer to rinstall OSX and do that aprtitions via the disk utility at install time.
[07:28] <sethk> babo, one stays there regardless of whether you strip, which is all the info the linker needs
[07:28] <sethk> babo, the other, which can be left or stripped, is extra info for debugging
[07:28] <cafuego> Mush-: For a baic Ubuntu, 2GB of software plus 4GB of space for stuff.
[07:28] <Mush-> caf: maybe i'll do that
[07:28] <Mush-> reinstall
[07:28] <sethk> babo, yes, .so is a shared library and .a is a static library
[07:29] <cafuego> Mush-: If you have/wants more, you can :-)
[07:29] <Mush-> cool
[07:29] <J-Rod> and if i try to install anything and push that "Administrator Mode" button, a red box forms around everything and the window's usability goes away...
[07:29] <Mush-> yeah i'm just thinking i'll archive/install
[07:29] <|DS|Svenstaro> Good morning everybody
[07:29] <Mush-> or whatever
[07:29] <asdf25> well i gotta reboot, good luck finding your Windows partition
[07:29] <babo> sethk: thanks :-)
[07:29] <FliesLikeALap> !tell FliesLikeABrick about jre
[07:29] <cafuego> Jennitalia: It should show both menus then.
[07:29] <Ryannnn> hmmm i guess ill never find out <.>
[07:30] <cdmbhs> lol, genitalia or jennitalia... funny name
[07:30] <intelikey> Ryannnn in a terminal do   'sudo fdisk -l '
[07:30] <Jennitalia> oh and i'm on a plannar flat screen connected by dvi
[07:30] <sfar> Jen from italia :(
[07:30] <cdmbhs> i hope so.
[07:30] <Ryannnn> ok did that intellikey
[07:31] <sfar> i hope not. thats one bad name if you live in italy :o
[07:31] <babo> sethk: what exactly then would you say, does an object or .o file consist of ? ... somewhere between source and executable ?
[07:31] <intelikey> read what it said about the partitions Ryannnn
[07:31] <Jennitalia> cdmbhs: looks like you were the first to get it
[07:31] <Ryannnn> well it says on dev sda2
[07:31] <|DS|Svenstaro> i'd need some help with the xserver. usually i only administrate servers remotely on a command line but now ive got myself an ubuntu desktop and dont know how to how to "tab" back to xserver once i opened a virtual console. could anybody tell me please?
[07:31] <fabri> how to use s-video out on an Ati Mobility Radeon?
[07:31] <Ryannnn> System is w95 fat32
[07:31] <Ryannnn> but my xp was on NTFS :/ wtf
[07:32] <slop> when i put in a dvd, xine automatically starts up...how can i disable this?
[07:32] <Mush-> caf: after i reboot with the tiger disk in ... it'll ask me if i want to create a partition right?
[07:32] <FlannelKing> that's your NTFS's recovery partition
[07:32] <sethk> babo, a .o is more or less like a piece of a .a
[07:32] <Ryannnn> which one is my xp parition?
[07:32] <FlannelKing> Ryannnn: which means... sda1 should be your NT partition
[07:32] <cafuego> Jennitalia: Does the screen tyr to scan between DVI and VGA when the mac is booting up?
[07:32] <sethk> babo, and if the compilation flag is used to generate relocatable code, it is like a piece of a .so
[07:32] <intelikey> Ryannnn pastebin the output of that command and i'll have a look.
[07:32] <Ryannnn> sda1
[07:32] <Ryannnn> is linux
[07:33] <fabri> anyone has an ATI MOBILITY RADEON?
[07:33] <sethk> babo, in fact, you can extract .o files from a .a file, and you can link in all the .o files instead of a .a file
[07:33] <Ryannnn> Where do i go to access pastebin?
[07:33] <J-Rod> fabri, I do
[07:33] <Jennitalia> cafuego: how can i tell?
[07:33] <sfar> !pastebi
[07:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sfar
[07:33] <intelikey> !paste
[07:33] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:33] <sethk> fabri, yes, I do
[07:33] <sfar> :|
[07:33] <intelikey> Ryannnn ^
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> fabri: Me too.
[07:33] <fabri> J-Rod do you know how to use s-video out, like to play a movie on tv
[07:33] <fabri> any of you guys knows how to do that?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> fabri: Never tried that though.
[07:34] <J-Rod> well on Windows, I'd just use 2nd monitor support...
[07:34] <J-Rod> I haven't gotten quite that far in my linux ventures
[07:34] <Mush-> cafuego: where in the setup does it ask me for a partition?
[07:34] <Mush-> similarly, when i'm done archiving and installing...should i delete the previous system folder?
[07:34] <Ryannnn> ok here it is intel
[07:34] <Ryannnn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11941
[07:34] <fabri> yeah but i just have ubuntu installed coz don't wanna see windows again
[07:34] <intelikey> looking
[07:34] <GuardianAtomos> Anyone know if Screen Resoltion reads a file other than xorg.conf? Mine has a resolution that's not in my xorg.conf file, and I want to add a resolution...but it's not listing it in Screen Resolution when I add the value to xorg.conf.
[07:34] <comrade> does anyone know how to get a media player like xmms or rhythmbox to play mp4s
[07:35] <babo> sethk: thanks ... I'm running a skype exectuable at the moment in chroot. The exectuable runs but never returns. I want to dig a little deeper inside and find out exactly what is going on. I've already ran the ldd loader command and it seems to me that all the libraries that should be there ... are. What should be my next step do you think ?
[07:35] <pschmitt> I just did "apt-get install hardware-monitor", but I can't find out how to add it to my panel!  When I try to add it to my panel, the only hardware monitor I see is the standard "system monitor"... what'm I missing?
[07:35] <J-Rod> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d11939 <- my problem...
[07:35] <fabri> does anyone knows how to get gtkpod reading aac files
[07:35] <fabri> ???
[07:35] <intelikey> Ryannnn you don't have any ntfs partitions
[07:35] <graft> hahoo! i think i fixed my wireless problems
[07:35] <Ryannnn> :(
[07:36] <Ryannnn> it got deleted then?>
[07:36] <J-Rod> way to go, graft
[07:36] <graft> just have to wait and see...
[07:36] <J-Rod> graft: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[07:36] <GuardianAtomos> graft, same here. :) I finally got my wifi USB adapter to work.
[07:36] <GuardianAtomos> So happy.
[07:36] <graft> J-Rod: Atheros, 5212 chipset
[07:36] <intelikey> Ryannnn looks like it.   what option did you selece from the partitioner durring install ?
[07:36] <Ryannnn> that py.. guy messed it up then
[07:36] <sethk> bobo, run it under strace
[07:36] <graft> uses madwifi drivers
[07:36] <J-Rod> graft: I might be coming to you for help later, hehe
[07:37] <J-Rod> ah, cool.. i'll have to remember that
[07:37] <sethk> bobo if it is already running, attach to it with strace -p
[07:37] <babo> sethk: oh ya, ok I forgot that
[07:37] <fabri> how to get gtkpod reading aac files?
[07:37] <Ryannnn> No intelikey u see before i had it installed and i could see the drive on my desktop then this other guy like u tryd helping me but he told me to do sumthing so i did it then he said reboot and then ubunto wouldent work so i reinstalled
[07:37] <sethk> babo, but you can do much more interesting things running with strace than you can just by attaching
[07:37] <intelikey> Ryannnn if you think it has been deleted sense the install you can install testdisk and run it to see if it is recoverable.
[07:37] <Ryannnn> how do i run testdisk?
[07:38] <babo> sethk:  ?? how do you mean ?  ...
[07:39] <intelikey> Ryannnn terminal command  " sudo aptget install testdisk && sudo testdisk "
[07:39] <sethk> babo, look in man strace.  look at -ff -o -e -s, all sorts of fun
[07:39] <babo> sethk: I have a unix handbook with me at the moment, so I'm just trying to get through the chapter on dynamic debugging
[07:39] <cafuego> p
[07:39] <sethk> babo, in UNIX it is usually called ptrace
[07:39] <sethk> babo, and solaris uses some other letter which I forget, @trace  where @ is some letter
[07:40] <Ryannnn> says command not found
[07:40] <sethk> babo, but the specifics are very different
[07:40] <sethk> babo the command line arguments and such
[07:40] <Ryannnn> sudo aptget install testdisk && sudo testdisk
[07:40] <sethk> babo, so the unix book may not be all that much help
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> Ryannnn: apt-get
[07:40] <eggzeck> Ryannnn, don't forgett the dash betweem aptget: apt-get
[07:40] <intelikey> but seeing that you have ubuntu installed on /dev/hda1 it is most likely that you selected "erase entire disk" when installing the last time.
[07:40] <intelikey> Ryannnn ^
[07:41] <intelikey> eggzeck hehhe thanks... i typoed that.
[07:41] <Ryannnn> admin@Ryannnnnnnnnn:~$ sudo apt-get testdisk && sudo testdisk
[07:41] <Ryannnn> E: Invalid operation testdis
[07:41] <jmworx> Any tip how to debug this:
[07:41] <Ryannnn> Guess I cant.
[07:41] <jmworx> My machine *looks* like it's swapping like hell...
[07:41] <Jennitalia> cafuego: how can i tell if my screen tries to scan between DVI and VGA when the mac is booting up?
[07:41] <doniv> hi guys
[07:41] <doniv> need some help with linpopup alternatives
[07:41] <jmworx> yet "free" tells me ther's like 800 MB of mem left (out of 1 Gig)
[07:41] <intelikey> Ryannnn terminal command  " sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk "    sorry i typoed the first time.
[07:41] <doniv> any suggestions?
[07:42] <eggzeck> intelikey, :)
[07:42] <jmworx> the disk is always on. top doesn't show any process eating much CPU, but the CPU is near 100% iowait
[07:42] <babo> sethk: strace /usr/bin/skype > file1.txt ... this should output to a file right ?
[07:42] <sethk> babo, yes, but it's not the best way to do it
[07:42] <intelikey> this keyboard is stiffer than i'm used to  and i don't press hard enough on all keys.
[07:42] <graft> there needs to be a disk-access equivalent of top
[07:42] <babo> sethk: what's the best way ?
[07:42] <Ryannnn> admin@Ryannnnnnnnnn:~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk && sudo testdisk
[07:42] <Ryannnn> Reading package lists... Done
[07:42] <Ryannnn> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:42] <Ryannnn> E: Couldn't find package testdisk
[07:43] <sethk> babo, better to do:  strace -o file1.txt /usr/bin/skype
[07:43] <jmworx> ...everything's really slow, to the point it takes several seconds for the text I write to appear. Oh, and I'm using Breezy
[07:43] <sethk> babo, and use strace -o file1.txt -ff -s 1024 /usr/bin/skype
[07:43] <intelikey> then you don't have the repos configured Ryannnn
[07:43] <sethk> babo, the -ff says trace child processes and make a separate trace file for each
[07:43] <babo> sethk: thanks ... I'm interested in why the first way didn't work though ?
[07:43] <intelikey> !repso
[07:43] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[07:43] <Ryannnn> damn
[07:43] <sethk> babo, the -s 1024 says keep 1024 bytes of each call
[07:43] <intelikey> repos
[07:43] <intelikey> !repos
[07:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:43] <sethk> babo, there are others but that's what I typically use
[07:44] <intelikey> be back in a few.
[07:44] <Ryannnn> so im screw'd
[07:44] <Ryannnn> ??
[07:44] <eggzeck> no
[07:44] <Ryannnn> yea iam
[07:45] <Ryannnn> i cant get my windows parition back
[07:45] <eggzeck> ew to windows
[07:45] <Ryannnn> whats wrong with windows?
[07:45] <sfar> Ryannnn: i think you can.. you just dont know how :)
[07:45] <graft> it's extreme vulnerability to viruses, for one
[07:45] <Ryannnn> can u help me?
[07:46] <graft> argh... offtopic
[07:46] <asdf25> did you find the ntfs partition yet?
[07:46] <J-Rod> heh
[07:46] <Ryannnn> no the other guy said it wasent there
[07:46] <Ryannnn> i Guess i lost it :(
[07:46] <asdf25> yeah... sounds like you're screwed
[07:46] <FlannelKing> Ryannnn: you might be able to use your recovery partition (that's the fat32 one) to restore windows/etc.
[07:46] <asdf25> i did that the first time i installed linux too
[07:46] <Double_D> anyone have any ideas why my vlc won't play .wmv files?
[07:46] <Ryannnn> how can i do that flannel?
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> !wmv
[07:46] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:46] <Double_D> i get sound but no video.  and i do have the w32codecs package installed.
[07:46] <Ryannnn> and all my files to flannel?
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> Ohp, nm.
[07:47] <FlannelKing> But, I've honestly never gotten any form of windows recovery/etc to work.
[07:47] <graft> Ryannnn: did you post fdisk output?
[07:47] <jmworx> Anyone can help me investigate that bug before I pull the plug (or before my machine just hangs)?
[07:47] <Ryannnn> yea i did
 whats wrong with windows? <--- the EULA  and the price  and the dirty business practices  and the "sue you if you look at our code" habbet   ...... need i go on?
[07:47] <babo> sethk: I think that it has trouble opening a socket to my X server connect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr("<IP_ADDRESS>")}, 16) = -1
[07:47] <babo>  ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused)
[07:47] <asdf25> yeah, he already made linux partitions over it too
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> Ryannnn: No files.  Those things return to factory ship state.
[07:47] <Ryannnn> I lost all my data then
[07:47] <Ryannnn> i guess
[07:47] <asdf25> yup
[07:47] <Mush-> does ubuntu require unix knowledge to install programs like other linux versions do?
[07:47] <graft> Double_D: try mplayer?
[07:47] <sethk> babo, sounds like it.  try doing xhost +
[07:47] <Mush-> or is it basically windows....like
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Ryannnn: That's why backups are important.
[07:48] <Mush-> in terms of gui when installing progs?
[07:48] <graft> Ryannnn: where's your fdisk output?
[07:48] <sethk> Mush-, other linux versions don't, and neither does ubuntu
[07:48] <babo> sethk: also this connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 19) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:48] <Ryannnn> I Gave it to the other guy
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Mush-: No, Synaptic.
[07:48] <Double_D> graft, got mplayer downloaded but i can only watch it in tiny screen.  set zoom to yes, but when i try to increase size, i lose a/v sync.
[07:48] <Mush-> sethK; nice
[07:48] <Ryannnn> here it is
[07:48] <Ryannnn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11941
[07:48] <Ryannnn> -sighs-
[07:48] <Mush-> seth; i thought a lot of like redhat and mandrake and debian required people to configure through unix and install programs that way, edit pref's etc?
[07:48] <Mush-> no?
[07:48] <Mush-> either way i'm not complaining :) that's tight
[07:49] <Mush-> tony? synaptic?
[07:49] <Mush-> eh?
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> !synaptic
[07:49] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:49] <Double_D> i've also already checked to ensure that i have the proper gpu driver installed.
[07:49] <Ryannnn> damn, i had important data on that drive...... Family pictures ..... Work etc.
[07:49] <graft> Double_D: um, what video output driver are you using?
[07:49] <Mush-> tony: word
[07:49] <intelikey> graft looks like he selected "erase entire disk" durring the last install maybe.
[07:49] <Mush-> tight
[07:50] <Double_D> nv, i think.  unless i'm mistaking what you're talking about.
[07:50] <Mush-> also, wikl i be able to dual boot into osx and ubuntu?
[07:50] <Ryannnn> no i dident
[07:50] <Mush-> and select between the two?
[07:50] <graft> intelikey: how'd he lose the partition, though?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> Mush-: Sure.
[07:50] <Double_D> graft, if i look in xorg.conf, it says i'm using driver nv for my video card.  is that what you mean?
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot
[07:50] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[07:50] <intelikey> Ryannnn pastebin  ' df -h '
[07:50] <graft> Double_D: no i mean with mplayer...
[07:50] <babo> sethk: would that be xhost from chroot or xhost from root ?  I guess root right ? ... I've tried it but still no luck ...
[07:50] <graft> but that's also a problem, Double_D
[07:50] <sfar> Ryannnn: unless you did a low level format on the windows partition the data is still there
[07:50] <intelikey> graft durring install
[07:50] <graft> you should use the nvidia non-free driver
[07:50] <sethk> babo, no, in this case root can't do it
[07:50] <Double_D> graft oh, it will only let me use x11.
[07:50] <sethk> babo, it has to be the user running the X server
[07:50] <graft> Double_D: can't use xv?
[07:51] <babo> sethK: oops ...
[07:51] <Mush-> tony: nice
[07:51] <Double_D> graft, nope, tried.
[07:51] <Ryannnn> Ok
[07:51] <graft> Double_D: install the NVIDIA non-free drivers... they'll probably let you do a lot more with your X windows system
[07:51] <Ryannnn> here it is
[07:51] <Ryannnn> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11942
[07:51] <Double_D> graft, tried installing NVIDIA-Linux-1.0-8756, my gpu wasn't supported.
[07:51] <intelikey> Ryannnn how big is your primary hard drive ?
[07:52] <Ryannnn> its
[07:52] <Double_D> graft: could you point me in the right direction was to where to wget what i'm looking for?
[07:52] <babo> sethk: does it have to be the same user on both sides of root, trying to connect to X ?
[07:52] <Ryannnn> 74.4
[07:52] <Ryannnn> gb
[07:52] <Ryannnn> but i partione'd it
[07:52] <graft> Double_D: wasn't supported? um... just goto nvidia.com and download it from there
[07:52] <graft> you might need kernel sources too
[07:52] <sethk> babo, if you use xhost +, then anybody and everybody can connect, and they don't have to match
[07:52] <Double_D> graft: okay, i'll give it a whirl.
[07:52] <sethk> babo, there is another possible reason, though, which thinking on it is more likely
[07:52] <intelikey> Ryannnn windows is gone dude.
[07:53] <Ryannnn> :( noooooooooo
[07:53] <graft> Double_D: anyway, those drivers will be much better and you should be able to use XV after that, as well as get 2D hardware acceleration going...
[07:53] <sethk> babo, possibly the DISPLAY environment variable isn't set, and so it doesn't know what X server to connect to
[07:53] <intelikey> you have 72g /
[07:53] <Ryannnn> theres no possible way i can get any data?
[07:53] <Ryannnn> back from it?
[07:53] <Double_D> graft: if it'll work, i'll owe you one.
[07:53] <docgnome> does anyone know anything about mounting an Archos Jukebox Studio 20 in linux?
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Ryannnn: Maybe very expensive computer forensics stuff.
[07:53] <Mush-> ryann: yeah you can spend 300 bucks and take it to data recovery people
[07:53] <intelikey> Ryannnn hda1 is 72g ext3  no way windows is still alive.
[07:53] <Mush-> and they might have a hard tiem doing it
[07:53] <Mush-> but it's possible
[07:53] <Ryannnn> buy
[07:53] <Ryannnn> if i re installed windows tonite
[07:53] <Ryannnn> would it work
[07:53] <babo> sethk: in chroot ? ... ok what should I set DISPLAY as ?
[07:53] <Ryannnn> Like not get data back
[07:53] <Ryannnn> but do i still have the option to put windows back
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Ryannnn: Only to the extent it did before, so not really  ;)
[07:54] <intelikey> sure you can install windows.
[07:54] <sfar> of course
[07:54] <Ryannnn> or will i need floppy boot desks?
[07:54] <Ryannnn> Disk*
[07:54] <asdf25> yeah, you can make an ntfs partition with gparted
[07:54] <graft> intelikey: hda1 is 228M only
[07:54] <asdf25> on hda1, then install windows like normal
[07:54] <sethk> babo, if you are on the same box, use :0.0
[07:54] <Ryannnn> Can u guys help me out
[07:54] <sethk> babo, which implies localhost
[07:54] <Double_D> graft: hmm. i don't see a linux listing, should i use OS/2 or BeOS?
[07:54] <Ryannnn> how do i do that then
[07:54] <Mush-> tony: i mean like....run both at the same time so i can quickly siwtch back and forth without having to restart?
[07:54] <babo> sethk: cool, thanks
[07:54] <graft> Double_D: no, there's a linux one.... um
[07:55] <sfar> Ryannnn: do you want windows+linux or only windows on your computer?
[07:55] <asdf25> actually the WinXP installer can probably do all that
[07:55] <Mush-> sort of like ... different "users" on a comp...switching between users?
[07:55] <Mush-> only fofr the os?
[07:55] <Ryannnn> Windows and linux
[07:55] <asdf25> if you don't mind losing the linux partitions
[07:55] <graft> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[07:55] <Ryannnn> or only windows
[07:55] <Ryannnn> will i need boot disks
[07:55] <asdf25> i don't think gparted can do the stuff you need it to, since you're using the partitions you need to resize
[07:55] <Ryannnn> to get only xp?
[07:55] <Double_D> graft: okay, see it. thanks.
[07:55] <sfar> Ryannnn: You need the xp install-cd
[07:55] <asdf25> i think you just need an xp install cd
[07:55] <Ryannnn> i have the xp install cd
[07:55] <graft> Ryannnn: if you REALLY want it, i'd take your drive out and take it to some data recovery folks.... drop $500 or so
[07:56] <Ryannnn> but i dont have the boot disks
[07:56] <graft> but otherwise it's gone
[07:56] <Double_D> graft: no wonder, the guy who was helping before had me download a driver for AMD64 instead of x86.
[07:56] <sfar> Ryannnn: just boot from the CD
[07:56] <asdf25> the install cd is bootable
[07:56] <intelikey> graft it's Ryannnn will the cd not boot ?
[07:56] <graft> Double_D: do you have a 64-bit machine?
[07:56] <Double_D> graft: a FreeBSD driver will work?
[07:56] <Ryannnn> Im not sure but on my other pc it has ubunto
[07:56] <Double_D> graft: hmm, not sure.  how could i check?
[07:56] <graft> Double_D: no, you need Linux IA32
[07:56] <Ryannnn> and when i wanna put only windows on it
[07:57] <Ryannnn> it requests floppy disks
[07:57] <Ryannnn> when i have the boot disk
[07:57] <Ryannnn> will this pc do that also?
[07:57] <graft> Double_D: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:57] <sfar> Ryannnn: try.. You might need to go into BIOS to tell the computer to boot from the cd (but you booted the ubuntu-cd before right? so that's probably not needed)
[07:58] <Double_D> graft: okay, got a listing of info, but not sure which to look at to distinguish 32-bit from 64.
[07:58] <Ryannnn> yea
[07:58] <Ryannnn> u see the reason i want xp back
[07:58] <graft> Double_D: um, your model name ought to be revealing enough... basically what's your CPU?
[07:58] <Ryannnn> is cause it stored pictures and stuff well
[07:58] <intelikey> too many cooks spoil the soup.  all yours guys.           Ryannnn good luck.
[07:58] <Ryannnn> do u all have pictures and stuff on ubunto?
[07:58] <Ryannnn> thanks likey
[07:58] <Double_D> graft: cpu family is 6, model 5.
[07:58] <George007> !mp3player
[07:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, George007
[07:58] <graft> Double_D: model name?
[07:59] <Double_D> graft: pent II, 448 mhz.
[07:59] <vidchi> =)
[07:59] <graft> Double_D: ouch! um well then use IA32
[07:59] <sfar> Ryannnn: of course you can have pictures and stuff on ubuntu :)
[07:59] <Double_D> graft: oh, erm.... desll dimension
[07:59] <Double_D> graft: *dell
[07:59] <Ryannnn> I wonder if theres a program for linux that works for ipods
[07:59] <asdf25> anyone know what the best way to upgrade from breezy to dapper is?
[07:59] <Double_D> graft: hehe.  i know, it's old.
[07:59] <graft> Ryannnn: yeah you can run gtkpod
[08:00] <sfar> !ipod
[08:00] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:00] <Ryannnn> well thing is
[08:00] <Double_D> graft: that's the one i tried earlier.
[08:00] <Ryannnn> I Need to install sum sort of p2p program on here
[08:00] <Ryannnn> and i dont know which one or how to install it
[08:00] <sfar> !p2p
[08:00] <ubotu> well, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[08:00] <sfar> :)
[08:01] <graft> Double_D: ah... well.... considering how old your machine is they may have stopped supporting drivers that would run on it
[08:01] <Double_D> graft: okay.  i suppose i should buy a new video card, eh.
[08:01] <Double_D> graft: thanks for the help, though.
[08:01] <babo> sethk: no luck there either I still get the same error plus I spotted something else access("/usr/lib/qt3/plugins/codecs/.", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[08:01] <babo> access("/usr/bin/codecs/.", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[08:01] <graft> Double_D: what's your card?
[08:01] <Ryannnn> which p2p is the best i can get for this?
[08:01] <sethk> babo, you are always going to see a bunch of those errors
[08:02] <sfar> Ryannnn: in the menu, go to system -> Administration -> Synaptic ... and search for ktorrent (if you need a torrent-program), then mark it for installation and install it :)
[08:02] <Double_D> graft: NVIDIA/SGS Thomas Riva 128, according to xorg.conf.
[08:02] <sethk> babo, X programs tend to do a bunch of open calls looking for things in a variety of possible directories
[08:02] <sethk> babo, usually those aren't relevant
[08:02] <babo> sethk: am I missing the qt codecs ?
[08:02] <Double_D> graft: although, i'm pretty sure the card is marked as being an STB velocity 128.
[08:02] <FlannelKing> if you need a torrent program? ubuntu ships with bittorrent.
[08:02] <graft> Double_D: what's your kernel version?
[08:02] <Ryannnn> I need a program like
[08:02] <Ryannnn> limewire
[08:02] <sethk> babo, possible, I don't know the specific program so I don't know if it needs them
[08:02] <graft> Double_D: yeah RIVA is the NVIDIA chipset
[08:02] <sfar> Ryannnn: otherwise i thinka torrent program is already installed by default
[08:02] <sethk> babo, but check, it may well find the file in a different directory
[08:02] <Double_D> graft: the ubuntu version is 5.10, if that's what you mean.
[08:02] <graft> Ryannnn: you can get limewire on linux
[08:03] <sfar> Ryannnn: look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[08:03] <FlannelKing> Ryannnn: you should get Azureus
[08:03] <sethk> babo, edit the file and search for the file name
[08:03] <graft> Double_D: no your linux kernel version.... type uname -a
[08:03] <FlannelKing> since, it's probably what you were using on windows.
[08:03] <Ryannnn> also how do u open .rar files
[08:03] <Ryannnn> in ubunto?
[08:03] <Double_D> graft: 2.6.12-9-386
[08:03] <Double_D> graft: is that it?
[08:03] <graft> Double_D: okay get the latest IA32 driver and try running it as root
[08:04] <graft> Ryannnn: try the 'ark' application
[08:04] <Double_D> graft: even if it says my gpu isn't supported?
[08:04] <graft> Double_D: does it say that?
[08:04] <Double_D> graft: yeah, when i tried to install it earlier.
[08:04] <graft> Double_D: you used version 1.0-8756?
[08:04] <Double_D> graft: yes.
[08:04] <Ryannnn> what do u mean ark application?
[08:05] <Double_D> graft: NVIDIA-Linux-1.0-8756.pkg1.run
[08:05] <graft> Ryannnn: there's an application called 'ark'... you can install it with synaptic or something
[08:05] <Danny-khi> How do I check and fix bad sectors on my hard disk and filesystem errors by using a GUI
[08:05] <daaku> hey everyone, i'm trying to figure out how to disable some kernel modules from auto loading (tried adding them to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it didnt work)
[08:05] <graft> Double_D: yeah... hm and that says unsupported?
[08:05] <poikol> HI, How can I open, modify and work (microsoft) Visio Files ?
[08:05] <Double_D> graft: unfortunately, yes.
[08:05] <sfar> FlannelKing: yea, and installing java (and enabel multiverse) is probably not what he wants to do at this point (wich is required with azureus) :)
[08:05] <sethk> daaku, move them out of /lib/modules, and it can't use them because it won't find them
[08:05] <graft> Double_D: dang... well anyway on a machine that old i'm guessing you're going to have a slow time of it playing any kind of video no matter what
[08:06] <FlannelKing> sfar: I doubt he'd have problems with it, there are howtos, and hardly any gotchas, considering he's on i386.
[08:06] <Double_D> graft: that's what i was beginning to think.
[08:06] <Double_D> graft: i suppose it's time to build a new one.  hehe.
[08:06] <deadcat> is the next release gonna come with Xgl and compiz?
[08:06] <FlannelKing> deadcat: only sort of.
[08:06] <deadcat> FlannelKing: please explain
[08:06] <Ryannnn> when i try get the limewire it wont let me
[08:06] <Ryannnn> it says
[08:06] <Ryannnn> -00:06:29--  http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/LimeWireOther.zi
[08:06] <Ryannnn>            => `LimeWireOther.zi'
[08:06] <Ryannnn> Resolving frankandjacq.com... <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:06] <Ryannnn> Connecting to frankandjacq.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[08:06] <Ryannnn> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[08:06] <Ryannnn> 00:06:32 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[08:07] <deadcat> FlannelKing: apt-get'able but not default?
[08:07] <graft> Danny-khi: why do you think you have disk errors?
[08:07] <daaku> sethk: i'd like to have the ability to modprobe them if i want to- and i dont want keep moving them around
[08:07] <babo> sethk: there is no qt in lib  ... lib/qt3/plugins/codecs/  for this call.   But I think that the socket problem is what kills it because it attempts to open the socket a couple of times, then does a munmap() and a group_exit(1) ... :-(
[08:07] <spacey> deadcat: its there but xgl is seriously alpha quality so you probably have to wait for a next release for a bit decent Xgl support
[08:07] <FlannelKing> sort of officially. unless something has changed.  Check out the links in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:07] <sethk> babo, I thought you had a connect that was failing.  did you get past that problem?
[08:07] <deadcat> spacey: ya. next release means dapper drake... right?
[08:07] <Danny-khi> graft,  My hard disk is making strange noices, and a few days ago it refused booting which I fixed by formatting the harddisk and reinstalling ubuntu+windows
[08:08] <deadcat> FlannelKing: thanks
[08:08] <Ryannnn> flannelking
[08:08] <Ryannnn> how do i install a p2p client then
[08:08] <FlannelKing> of course, there's a handy wayof enabling xgl/etc so that if it explodes, you remove your session startup thing, and everything's ok again.  So, I'm running it without fear.
[08:08] <graft> Danny-khi: if your hard drive crashed it might just be time to save your data and get a new one
[08:08] <graft> otherwise it'll just grind itself worse and worse
[08:08] <FlannelKing> Ryannnn: does that page not tell you?
[08:08] <spacey> deadcat: i was talking about dapper. so for decent xgl support you have to wait for a release after that
[08:08] <babo> sethk: no, that is my problem ... the socket to X won't connect ... same problem afaik :-)
[08:08] <eggzeck> !p2p
[08:08] <ubotu> I guess p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[08:08] <Ryannnn> post that page agen and if it wuz the limewire one
[08:08] <Danny-khi> graft,  but it is working still may be its not a big enough problem?
[08:08] <Ryannnn> it dosent work
[08:09] <deadcat> spacey: damn
[08:09] <sethk> babo, the connect failure is what you need to figure out.  the rest is noise
[08:09] <Ryannnn> Grr Arc Is installed and i Still cant open .RAR FIles
[08:09] <graft> Danny-khi: sure... you can run fsck to check it out... dunno about a gui though
[08:09] <spacey> deadcat: its just that Xgl barely works (only a few drivers etc.) and is really buggy. :)
[08:09] <Danny-khi> fsck is too difficult for me I can not understand it
[08:10] <deadcat> spacey: true. well i figure if dapper drake detects a good enough card it will use. else just dont. (=
[08:10] <asdf25> can anyone think of any important references to my root partition device i should have to update apart from fstab and grub.conf?
[08:10] <spacey> deadcat: it won't be standard, but its there in the repositories if you want to give it a try and see if it works at all
[08:10] <babo> sethk: right ... :-(
[08:11] <deadcat> spacey: ok. thanks
[08:11] <Ryannnn> anyone know how i can install a p2p client?
[08:11] <sfar> FlannelKing: well, you guide him then :) it's just my personal opinion to go easy in the beginning and the reason to that is because when i help, i explain whats going on (explaining sudo/multiverse/apt-get/ might be a bit to much at the same time for a beginner).. "monkey see, monkey do" is useless imo
[08:11] <deadcat> Ryannnn: apt-cache search p2p
[08:11] <eggzeck> deadcat, we showed him like 3 times heh
[08:11] <asdf25> there's a gnome bittorrent client that's easy to install, if that's what you need
[08:11] <deadcat> eggzeck: i am sure.. (=
[08:11] <eggzeck> I don' t think he's reading
[08:12] <blujay> Ryannnn: apt-cache search p2p; www.google.com/search?q=p2p+ubuntu
[08:12] <deadcat> i think he /ignore * or something (=
[08:12] <Ryannnn> no i never
[08:12] <Danny-khi> graft,  WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[08:12] <Danny-khi> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[08:12] <Ryannnn> also when i try open this rar file i get a errror
[08:12] <graft> Danny-khi: err... yeah you should reboot into it
[08:13] <Danny-khi> graft,  reboot into what?
[08:13] <rocktoberer> when i attempt to boot into ubuntu i get a "dev/hdd1 does not exist" error and then a "bin/sh: can not access tty" error
[08:13] <sfar> Ryannnn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:13] <rocktoberer> did something go wrong in the installation possibly?
[08:13] <graft> Danny-khi: or you can run fsck -n so it just checks, doesn't fix
[08:13] <Danny-khi> graft,  you mean I should use the live CD?
[08:14] <blujay> rocktoberer: how many hard drives do you have?
[08:14] <Ryannnn> so u guys, like i know ubunto comes with a torrent hanlder but i was looken for sumthing like limewire also
[08:14] <graft> Danny-khi: erm... if you do like shutdown -F it will let you run fsck before it mounts the root partition
[08:15] <babo> What's the difference between placing an executable in /usr/local and /usr/bin ... (generally) ... I know that they'll both run if in the path ...
[08:15] <Double_D> anyone know the linux equivalent of the windows ipconfig command?
[08:16] <asdf25> ryan: limewire.com
[08:16] <Danny-khi> graft,  I should type: sudo shutdown -F in terminal and then when rebooted I should run fsck?
[08:16] <blujay> babo: /usr/bin is for stuff provided by Ubuntu; /usr/local is for stuff you compile or install yourself
[08:16] <blujay> Double_D: ifconfig
[08:16] <Double_D> bluejay: thanks.
[08:16] <blujay> Double_D: it's for "interface config" I think
[08:16] <graft> Danny-khi: fsck should run automatically after you reboot, but yeah
[08:16] <Double_D> blujay: thanks.
[08:16] <asdf25> ryan: actually i'm not entirely sure that'll work... but they do have an RPM of limewire there... which you could try to use
[08:16] <sfar> !tell Ryannnn about limewire
[08:16] <babo> blujay: thanks
[08:16] <graft> Double_D: i mean it'll ask you for root password, etc. during init sequence so it can run fdisk with stuff unmounted
[08:16] <sfar> !tell Ryannnn about java
[08:17] <asdf25> !tell asdf25 about limewire
[08:17] <Danny-khi> graft,  thank you by the way fsck -n showed some filesystem errors
[08:17] <Double_D> graft: i think you meant that for danny-khi.
[08:17] <sfar> Ryannnn: look at the URL ubotu gave you in a private message
[08:17] <graft> Double_D: oh yeah... sorry
[08:17] <Double_D> graft: np.
[08:17] <Danny-khi> graft,  I got it
[08:18] <Skiria> is there a wireless network detector on the live CD?? I'm wanting to install ubuntu, but want to make sure i can connect to the net on it first and couldnt find any network detector while running the live CD
[08:18] <pschmitt> I want to make my gnome panel more spiffy.  I've been googling around for linux desktop images and came accross this one: [http://home.netcom.com/~kmself/Images/Desktop/desktop-11.png]   It looks like many people have a little globe, which I'm assuming correspoinds to what part of Earth has sun on it... if so, what's this called?
[08:18] <babo> Anyone have any ideas why my 32bit skype executable can't access my 64bit X server to run connect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(6000), sin_addr=inet_addr("<IP_ADDRESS>")}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused ... )
[08:18] <blujay> pschmitt: that's not GNOME
[08:18] <asdf25> pschmitt: that looks like it might be a WindowMaker applet thing
[08:19] <asdf25> pschmitt: which isn't meant to be used with GNOME
[08:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> pschmitt: it's xearch i expect (not having looked at the link)
[08:19] <blujay> pschmitt: you might look into xearth or xglobe (I think it's called xglobe)
[08:19] <blujay> pschmitt: I mean, xearth does exist, but I think there's also one called xglobe
[08:20] <Double_D> pschmitt, blujay: yeah, there's an xglobe.
[08:20] <blujay> Double_D: cool :)
[08:20] <mmia> hmm
[08:20] <pschmitt> bluejay, asdf25, kamping_kaiser: cool, thanks!  I'm looking into xplanet (which is in synaptic)
[08:21] <blujay> pschmitt: ahh, that's what I was trying to think of
[08:21] <Mangusta> I've just installed NVIDIA drivers in ubuntu, and have the black bar down the rhs of the screen, anyone point me in the right direction for the solution?
[08:22] <babo> So I'm having problems with my nvidia drivers. When ever I load up the computer I have to recompile the drivers and kernel module. That's not so good. I think maybe my original user is using the wrong gcc. The user that starts X automatically on boot up is root ? right ? ... and then you login into 'user' ?
[08:22] <mmia> I am having trouble with sound.
[08:22] <mmia> Won't output.
[08:22] <Mangusta> I've seen it and fixed it before, but for the life of me, I can't find it in google anywhere....
[08:22] <blujay> Mangusta: "the" black bar?
[08:22] <mmia> It was working for a while when I had etc use alsa
[08:22] <mmia> and restarted,t hen relogged
[08:22] <mmia> but now nada.
[08:22] <rocktoberer> hello?
[08:22] <blujay> rocktoberer: I answered you earlier
[08:22] <blujay> babo: you mean every time you reboot you have to recompile?
[08:22] <Mangusta> blujay, yeah, it was a bug once before, basically screen res is squashed to the left
[08:22] <mmia> what is more, I think I have a flaky oss driver, because when i checked "work around bugg osss drivers" on vlc player, it actually worked.
[08:23] <blujay> Mangusta: have you looked at xorg.conf?
[08:23] <pschmitt> What're some cool gnome panel applets you use???
[08:23] <babo> blujay: da ... :-(
[08:23] <Mangusta> yah, turned of dri etc, but still no joy
[08:23] <blujay> Mangusta: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:23] <babo> blujay: yes ... :-(
[08:23] <graft> babo: why do you have to rebuild? do they disappear or what?
[08:23] <Rug> Howdy all
[08:23] <blujay> babo: what happens if you don't recompile it and just try to run gdm or kdm?
[08:23] <Mangusta> haven't tried that, will do so when I get home.
[08:24] <blujay> Mangusta: what card do you have?
[08:24] <Mangusta> GF 420Go
[08:24] <blujay> Rug: hi
[08:24] <babo> graft: well when I try to compile the driver again I have to switch gcc to 3.4 ... so maybe that's a part of the problem ..
[08:24] <Mangusta> I had this issue a while back in fedora, but can't find the fix instructions...
[08:24] <blujay> babo: what error messages do you get if you don't?
[08:24] <blujay> Mangusta: how did you install them?
[08:24] <Skiria> is there a wireless network detector on the live CD?? I'm wanting to install ubuntu, but want to make sure i can connect to the net on it first and couldnt find any network detector while running the live CD, I've entered my WEP key and SSID and everything, but it wont connect out to the internet.  Any suggestions?
[08:25] <InnerFIRE> is there an linux version of the ipod setup?
[08:25] <Rug> My font resolution in midnightCommander is quite crappy (when launched from an xterm window)   How can I fix it?
[08:25] <Mangusta> blujay, used the package manager, within gnome
[08:25] <graft> babo: um... but why do you have to recompile it at all? why can't you just load the same module and keep using it?
[08:25] <rocktoberer> blujay: i have two hard drives
[08:25] <babo> blujay: gosh, off-hand I can't say ... as I use this computer to run web scripts at nighttime. I just leave it on 24 hrs
[08:25] <blujay> Skiria: well, I don't know about breezy, but dapper will have this and it will be easy
[08:25] <George007> How do I share folders? (so that ubuntuans can read)?
[08:25] <blujay> Mangusta: what package did you install?
[08:25] <blujay> rocktoberer: only two?  and it's looking for hdd?
[08:25] <babo> graft: well I tried modprobe, but that didn't work
[08:25] <Mangusta> Skiria, Breezy livecd does do wifi.... worked with my orinoco card
[08:25] <blujay> George007: you need samba, then right-click and share it
[08:25] <graft> babo: what'd it say?
[08:26] <Skiria> I'm guessing a D-link should work too?
[08:26] <mrkoje> hola mi amigos, c
[08:26] <George007> blujay, I have samba installed, how will theo ther person connect to it?
[08:26] <blujay> Skiria: depends, different cards have different hardware
[08:26] <Mush-> anyone using os x
[08:26] <Mush-> ?
[08:26] <mrkoje> hola mi amigos, cmo le va ustedes?
[08:26] <blujay> George007: they should open Nautilus or Konqueror and look for samba shares, aka windows shares, aka smb:/
[08:27] <Mangusta> followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28NVIDIA%29
[08:27] <Mangusta> used nvidia-glx
[08:27] <rocktoberer> blujay: two disks, three partitions
[08:27] <George007> !nautilus
[08:27] <ubotu> George007: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <George007> !konqueror
[08:27] <ubotu> it has been said that konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[08:27] <Rug> mrkoje: english?
[08:27] <babo> graft: to be honest with you I really don't have the full-details ... I think I'm just going to try changing the default boot up gcc for whichever user loads X on ubuntu automatically. I'll right the other details down for the next time I come on here ...
[08:27] <sfar> !es
[08:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:27] <George007> what about gnome?
[08:27] <blujay> Mangusta: sorry, I don't know what else to say, you should probably do this while actually at the computer with the problem
[08:27] <graft> Rug: he asked how we're doing
[08:27] <babo> s/right/write
[08:27] <Rug> ahh good thank-you
[08:27] <Mangusta> yah, thanks, I will come back later tonight
[08:28] <Skiria> and also, i'm correct in my understanding that to have my computer dual boot, i can just install ubuntu with WinXP already installed?
[08:28] <graft> babo: it shouldn't matter once the module has been built if you change gcc versions
[08:28] <blujay> rocktoberer: are you at the computer now?
[08:28] <rocktoberer> blujay: yes
[08:28] <babo> graft: well I guess I must be lucky then ? ... :-(
[08:28] <blujay> George007: open the file manager and put "smb:/" in the address bar, try that
[08:28] <blujay> rocktoberer: are you in Linux or what?
[08:28] <asdf25> Skiria: assuming you have a partition to install ubuntu on, yes
[08:28] <babo> graft: ok, thanks anyway ... I'll leave it for now ...
[08:28] <rocktoberer> blujay: on windows
[08:28] <Mangusta> skiria, so long as your either have some free partitions, or ubuntu can resize your windows partition....
[08:29] <graft> babo: you could try it now...?
[08:29] <asdf25> can linux actually resize ntfs partitions now?
[08:29] <blujay> rocktoberer: do you have Knoppix or some other live CD?  you'll need to be able to access the Linux partitions to fix it
[08:29] <blujay> asdf25: yes, for a long time, ntfsresize
[08:29] <babo> graft: have to go to work I'm afraid ... there are kiddies who need to learn english ...
[08:29] <Skiria> should i resize a partition first or just do it with the ubuntu install?
[08:29] <rocktoberer> blujay:i have my ubuntu live cd
[08:29] <blujay> Skiria: let the installer do it, but make backups first of course
[08:29] <asdf25> huh ok... i just assumed it couldn't cause of the no write support thing
[08:30] <rocktoberer> blujay: should i get a knoppix one?
[08:30] <pip_> Hello.can you hear me?
[08:30] <Rug> pip_: I can
[08:30] <Double_D> pschmitt does this program run on your desktop background?
[08:30] <sfar> pip_ :)
[08:30] <pip_> thank you
[08:30] <Double_D> pschmitt xplanet or whatever you're going to use.
[08:30] <blujay> rocktoberer: either one will work.  Boot it, then you will need to mount the partition that /boot is on, and look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:30] <pip_> I am Pip,from China
[08:30] <blujay> pip_: hi Pip
[08:30] <pip_> Nice ti meet all of you here
[08:30] <Rug> Howdy
[08:30] <pip_> Hi
[08:31] <Rug> Lahoma
[08:31] <pip_> This is my first time to chat here
[08:31] <Double_D> what exactly is the X root window?
[08:31] <rocktoberer> blujay: anything after that?
[08:31] <blujay> rocktoberer: well, you'll probably need to adjust it to point at the correct drive and partition
[08:31] <blujay> rocktoberer: it'd be easier if you were in Linux now
[08:31] <pip_> what is the color you see of my words?
[08:31] <graft> Double_D: it's the background thingy....
[08:32] <blujay> pip_: the default color
[08:32] <Double_D> graft: so this xplanet thing will be on my background, like wallpaper?
[08:32] <Double_D> graft: should i install it, that is.
[08:32] <rocktoberer> blujay: sorry, i wish i was in linux, too
[08:32] <blujay> Double_D: you can set it to render into a corner of your existing wallpaper
[08:32] <graft> Double_D: yeah... except animated
[08:32] <blujay> rocktoberer: why don't you boot into it and come back
[08:32] <Rug> pip_: it all depends on what IRC client I am using.  (my colours are different from everybodies)
[08:32] <pip_> Is it black?
[08:32] <Double_D> graft: hmm.  wonder if my box could handle that.
[08:32] <Double_D> blujay, graft: thanks, guys.
[08:33] <blujay> Double_D: I used to do that on Windows...haven't since I switched to Linux...maybe again someday
[08:33] <rocktoberer> blujay: i'll try and see what happens
[08:33] <pip_> Well,where are you from ?
[08:33] <rocktoberer> thank you
[08:33] <blujay> rocktoberer: I'll be here for a little while longer...
[08:33] <blujay> rocktoberer: I'm sure it's fixable
[08:33] <Double_D> blujay: how much memory does something like that use?
[08:33] <Double_D> blujay: in terms of resource.
[08:33] <Double_D> blujay: *resources.
[08:34] <blujay> Double_D: um...I don't know...it only takes a few seconds to render it...if you're talking about xplanet and wallpaper, it doesn't run continuously
[08:34] <Rug> pip_: Did you have something to discuss regarding Linux and Ubuntu?
[08:34] <blujay> Double_D: you set it to update every so often
[08:34] <Double_D> blujay: ah, i see.
[08:34] <graft> man does anyone know a good musicbrainz enabled tagging application?
[08:35] <Double_D> blujay: hmm, i don't know.  i kinda like my skimpy women :P
[08:35] <blujay> graft: amarok can do it, but I have to say, musicbrainz wasn't all that accurate when I tried it the other day
[08:35] <pip_> I love Linux very much
[08:35] <blujay> Double_D: hehe
[08:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[08:35] <Rug> pip_: great, we all do!
[08:35] <pschmitt> Double_D:  It *looks* like xplanet is used to generate a single image of the earth, where it lets you set various parameters... I dont have much time to muck around with it now so I gave up
[08:35] <blujay> graft: like 0-10% accuracy
[08:35] <Double_D> pschmitt: yeah, i hear that.
[08:35] <graft> blujay: yeah but amarok doesn't do batch tagging
[08:35] <Double_D> pschmitt: getting close to bedtime for me.
[08:35] <pip_> I don't use windows OS
[08:35] <graft> blujay: yeah it's gotten a lot worse since its inception
[08:35] <Skiria> so for my wireless card...DWL-520 (rev E), i can not know if this works unless i fully install ubuntu?
[08:36] <blujay> graft: well, there are some batch tagging apps in the repos, use apt-cache search...and google for linux music tagging
[08:36] <blujay> Skiria: that should work, AFAIK
[08:36] <pip_> SO ,Rug :where are you from?
[08:36] <blujay> Skiria: check the HCL if you want, on the Wiki
[08:36] <graft> blujay: nothing with batch tagging and musicbrainz support, is there?
[08:36] <mrkoje> Skiria: you can check to see if the card is supported on the ubuntu wiki
[08:36] <blujay> graft: I don't know, sorry...don't really use musicbrainz anyway
[08:36] <InnerFIRE> can somebody tell me how to install the ipod shuffle software with ubuntu?
[08:36] <Skiria> im sorry, AFAIK?
[08:37] <Rug> pip_: Canada
[08:37] <graft> Skiria: DWL-520+ doesn't work, so i'd be wary
[08:37] <graft> Skiria: AFAIK = as far as i know
[08:37] <mrkoje> InnerFire: Are you trying to get iTunes to work? Is that what you mean?
[08:37] <blujay> Skiria: yeah, be careful with the "+" ones...D-Link does that, add a + but change the hardware inside COMPLETELY
[08:38] <InnerFIRE> the manual says to install the ipod software before plugging it into the computer..
[08:38] <pip_> Rug:my English teacher Tracy is also from Canada.
[08:38] <InnerFIRE> the software is .exe format
[08:38] <blujay> InnerFIRE: that's for Mac or Windows, not Linux
[08:38] <Skiria> graft:  windows device manager says DWL-520 Wirless PCI Adapter(rev.E), no +, so you think im good?
[08:38] <Rug> InnerFIRE: youo are reading a manual?  Get out of here you IMPOSTER!  =)
[08:38] <InnerFIRE> i understand as much, but...
[08:38] <blujay> InnerFIRE: use a native Linux music app, like Rhythmbox or amaroK, or something like that
[08:38] <InnerFIRE> dude listen...
[08:38] <Rug> pip_: I know Tracy!
[08:38] <InnerFIRE> i put music on the ipod..
[08:39] <InnerFIRE> im using rhythmbox..
[08:39] <blujay> Skiria: check the hardware compatibility list on the ubuntu wiki
[08:39] <elie> blujay: a silly question here but if i install a software on gnome will i be able to still acess it from kde? Is the difference between gnome and kde only interface-wise or more than that. Thanks
[08:39] <pip_> O?
[08:39] <InnerFIRE> but the ipod wont play..
[08:39] <InnerFIRE> i get error lights
[08:39] <blujay> elie: yes you can use them on either
[08:39] <InnerFIRE> amber/green
[08:39] <pip_> What did you san?
[08:39] <Rug> pip_: Yeah Tracy is cute
[08:39] <elie> blujay: thanks
[08:39] <InnerFIRE> so i need to update it or install software
[08:39] <blujay> elie: np
[08:39] <pip_> what did you say?
[08:39] <pip_> cut?
[08:39] <InnerFIRE> its fresh out the box
[08:39] <Rug> pip_: I know Tracy
[08:39] <pip_> you know her?
[08:39] <blujay> InnerFIRE: are you running Breezy?
[08:39] <Rug> yes
[08:40] <InnerFIRE> dapper
[08:40] <pip_> she is my English teacher,and now she is in China
[08:40] <bsdfox> damn.. when did suspend/hibernate start working so well
[08:40] <Rug> yes, I miss her
[08:40] <InnerFIRE> ill install breezy if it makes a difference
[08:40] <blujay> InnerFIRE: :/  I don't know, sorry...Dapper's not finished yet.  Have you Googled for "Ubuntu ipod"?
[08:40] <mohkohn> Hi. I am having a blonde moment. I am using Fluxbox...Opened and tried to close Edit Clock Format and now have 10 of them on my screen
[08:40] <George007> !firefox1.5
[08:40] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:40] <blujay> bsdfox: what are you running?
[08:41] <mohkohn> Tried right click/left click but don't seem to be able to close them
[08:41] <graft> Skiria: it's supported...
[08:41] <mohkohn> Any one know how?
[08:41] <blujay> mohkohn: have you tried logging out and back in?  a workaround but that would probably fix it
[08:41] <pip_> The color of your words sent to me is red .how can I do that?
[08:41] <Skiria> graft: thanks, so it should work under the live CD also correct?
[08:41] <pip_> So ,it's wonderful.
[08:41] <graft> Skiria: yeah
[08:41] <Rug> It's only becaus eI included your name in the message.   See the difference?
[08:42] <Skiria> ok, guess ill have to keep trying
[08:42] <graft> although it might guess wrong and use the orinoco_pci driver instead
[08:42] <mohkohn> That would work. But I would prefer to learn to use it correctly.
[08:42] <blujay> mohkohn: I don't use Fluxbox, sorry
[08:42] <graft> or... actually um
[08:42] <graft> maybe not at all, if it doesn't have hostap modules installed
[08:42] <InnerFIRE> well how do i install itunes?
[08:42] <mohkohn> pip_, just type in then name of the person you are talking to and it will be red
[08:42] <na7e> flux = ownage, i need to learn to configure it better
[08:42] <pip_> got it
[08:43] <blujay> InnerFIRE: I would not expect iTunes itself to work with your iPod running under Linux
[08:43] <mohkohn> or the first letters of the name then tab
[08:43] <farous> mohkohn: what is your question about fluxbox
[08:43] <blujay> InnerFIRE: your best chance is with native Linux software that uses iPods...again, have you googled?
[08:43] <Skiria> graft:  so i do end up having to install first and see? to be able to install anything else needed?
[08:43] <VR_> does anyone else manage to break things 10 times a day and have to completely reinstall?
[08:43] <InnerFIRE> ive googled and yahood
[08:43] <Rug> na7e: same here
[08:43] <mohkohn> farous, I have all these Edit Clock Format things open and can't seem to close them?
[08:43] <jabra> for the package nvidia-glx in dapper has it been updated yet?
[08:44] <farous> graft: check sharpmusique
[08:44] <blujay> InnerFIRE: first hit: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[08:44] <ndlovu> hey all. Installing Ubuntu on a new computer and I'm getting unmet dependencies. "Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed". I'm sure I've seen this before but I can't remember how I fixed it.
[08:44] <blujay> ndlovu: what are you trying to install that requires it?
[08:44] <pip_> can you see?
[08:44] <ndlovu> blujay: mozilla-calendar
[08:44] <farous> mohkohn: just put the mouse on them then press enter
[08:44] <pip_> oh
[08:44] <graft> Skiria: just try the livecd... i mean when you've installed you can definitely download the driver and use it... but i dunno if it's in the default install
[08:44] <blujay> ndlovu: try apt-cache policy mozilla-browser, see what it shows
[08:45] <mohkohn> farous, thanks. Thats it
[08:45] <farous> mohkohn: just put them in focus i mean move the mouse to them click it then press enter
[08:45] <farous> mohkohn: yw:)
[08:45] <graft> farous: sharpmusique?
[08:45] <bsdfox> blujay, an inspiron 5100
[08:45] <Skiria> thanks
[08:45] <blujay> bsdfox: breezy or what?
[08:45] <InnerFIRE> You need an iPod already formatted in Windows through iTunes, before you can proceed with this Howto
[08:45] <farous> graft: google it i had it to download some itunes. on the down side everything on it costs
[08:46] <InnerFIRE> how do i tell?
[08:46] <bsdfox> dapper
[08:46] <graft> farous: what are you telling me this for?
[08:46] <mohkohn> Brilliant. I am working in Sudan at the moment. And the internet is slow so I am finding things just a bit faster running fluxbox
[08:46] <blujay> InnerFIRE: um...it's probably already formatted...if not, it won't work, and you will know that you probably need to do that.  On the other hand, you might be able to use the "ipod" package in Ubuntu to find out
[08:46] <blujay> bsdfox: cool, better than breezy?
[08:47] <bsdfox> how can I setup cpufreq to disable the 300mhz speed,, I'd like it to only scale down to 600mhz
[08:47] <ndlovu> blujay: Installed: (none); Candidate: 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1; version table 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 0, 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 0
[08:47] <farous> graft: i thought you were asking for itunes perhaps i was mistaken just forget about it
[08:47] <graft> farous: err no i just want musicbrainz
[08:47] <bsdfox> blujay, everything has worked right so far
[08:47] <blujay> ndlovu: ok, the last one, what else does it say on that line?
[08:47] <blujay> bsdfox: cool
[08:47] <farous> k:)
[08:47] <ndlovu> 500 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages, blujay
[08:48] <pip_> Rug:if I click with a mouse on the right ,and choose open a window for talk ,does it work?
[08:48] <blujay> ndlovu: and what does the line just above it say?
[08:48] <Rug> pip_: I don't know
[08:48] <ndlovu> blujay: 500 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages
[08:49] <pip_> Then how do you talk with me ?
[08:49] <Rug> pip_: I don't
[08:49] <ndlovu> blujay, on my other computer  2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 0 is installed and mozilla-calendar is working
[08:49] <pip_> I don't use this chat tool smoothly
[08:49] <blujay> ndlovu: well, that mozilla-calendar package wants that *specific* version of mozilla-browser.  run $apt-cache policy mozilla-calendar$ and see what is available
[08:49] <shinu> is torsmo always transparent?
[08:50] <Double_D> pip_: what irc client are you using?
[08:50] <kerm> hey, what a coincidence...i use ubuntu linux and here's a chat room.
[08:50] <blujay> rocktoberer: hey you're back
[08:50] <pip_> Xchat
[08:50] <rocktoberer> blujay: bad news though
[08:50] <pip_> and you?
[08:50] <rocktoberer> blujay: live cd wouldn't let me do anything
[08:50] <Double_D> pip_: okay, if you want to open a seperate tab for a 'private' conversation, you can right-click on that person's name and select 'open dialog window.'
[08:50] <blujay> rocktoberer: what do you mean?
[08:50] <Double_D> pip_: i am also using xchat.
[08:51] <kerm> xchat < mirc but I like it a lot. i only say that because i haven't quite learned it yet.
[08:51] <pip_> OK.Thank you !
[08:51] <Double_D> pip_: np.
[08:51] <ndlovu> blujay: only one candidate, 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2 0, but it's not saying anything about dependencies
[08:51] <blujay> kerm: yeah, xchat can be scripted by many different languages, like Perl, Python, TCL/TK, etc.
[08:51] <kerm> mirc was so scriptable.
[08:51] <blujay> ndlovu: it sounds like the other computer might have different sources set
[08:52] <rocktoberer> blujay: right after everything was loaded up the screen got all distorted and wouldnt let me do anything besudes move the cursor around
[08:52] <farous> ndlovu: are you looking specific for mozilla calendar or any calendar will do
[08:52] <Rug> kerm: Ever use Pirch back in the day?
[08:52] <kerm> blujay, thanks for telling me. i really didn't know that.
[08:52] <ndlovu> blujay, good thought, I'll do a comparison
[08:52] <kerm> no Rug
[08:52] <blujay> rocktoberer: have you tried booting that CD in there before?
[08:52] <Rug> That was almost as good as BitchX
[08:52] <blujay> kerm: ...sorry :P
[08:52] <rocktoberer> yeah
[08:52] <pip_> Rug_:Just now,you said you know Tracy?
[08:52] <blujay> rocktoberer: did it happen before?
[08:52] <ndlovu> farous: well, I use the ical standard, but any ical will do I guess. If there's something better than mozilla-calendar I'm willing to try it
[08:52] <Rug> pip_: I was joking
[08:53] <kerm> heh...i'll make a note of looking up Pirch
[08:53] <rocktoberer> blujay: the same thing happened the first few times i tried to boot off of the disk
[08:53] <Rug> It's abandoned now, I was using it with Win95
[08:53] <blujay> rocktoberer: maybe you have a hardware problem?  I don't know...hard to say without being there.  Try a different live CD, maybe Knoppix
[08:53] <pip_> Hehe~~~you are joking
[08:53] <kerm> the only thing i asked of Xchat was to get me going on irc...and it's done that well.
[08:53] <farous> ndlovu: never used ical so will not know. There is a command line cal with ubuntu and i use tkremind. did not play with syncronization though
[08:53] <pip_> Are you home?
[08:54] <rocktoberer> blujay: bleh okay
[08:54] <Rug> kerm: if you are not weak of hert use Irssi
[08:54] <blujay> rocktoberer: sorry, good luck
[08:54] <Rug> oops
[08:54] <Rug> heart
[08:54] <kerm> weak of heart? me? never!!! lolz
[08:54] <Rug> irssi + flux = wicked cool
[08:54] <ndlovu> farous: the great thing about ical is that calendars can be shared easily, and I can subscribe to online calendars also, like public holidays for my own country, or work calendars
[08:55] <graft> anyone know how to update groups for all running processes? or can you not do this?
[08:55] <ubuntu> hello
[08:55] <na7e> hi
[08:55] <na7e> nice name
[08:55] <ubuntu> haha
[08:55] <kerm> hi mr. ubuntu...love your OS
[08:55] <George007> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user Test. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[08:55] <George007> Failed to modify password entry for user Test
[08:55] <ubuntu> hmm
[08:55] <George007> how do I fix that?
[08:56] <ubuntu> this is my first time using Linux, and I don't miss Windows ;)
[08:56] <George007> am trying to setup a username for samba... sudo smbpasswd -a Test
[08:57] <Double_D> time for bed, thanks for the help, all.
[08:57] <na7e> George007, does the user need to exist on the local system for smbpasswd to work?
[08:57] <kerm> the only thing i miss of windows honestly, is half-life and its many mods. i can't get wine going to well.
[08:57] <ubuntu> yea.
[08:57] <Rug> kerm: for me; it's Tribes
[08:57] <kerm> stupid valve.
[08:58] <farous> ndlovu: check it out tkremind is graphical front end for remind so look at this link if this is what you need. ps it is in the repos http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/open_source_remind.php
[08:58] <George007> I have no idea na7e, am trying to setup a username for my friend to login (using LAN)
[08:58] <graft> there's always qIII and its mods on linux...
[08:58] <na7e> i dual boot for gaming and development....until vm technology gets better
[08:58] <kerm> there's a tribes 2 clone for linux...i wish i remembered the name
[08:58] <Rug> Legends
[08:58] <na7e> George007, then setup a local user first then try smbpasswd with that user
[08:58] <rocktoberer> blujay: do i have to do anything special because of my dual-core cpu?
[08:58] <kerm> yeah
[08:58] <Rug> nobody is ever online, and it is kinda lame
[08:58] <Madpilot> ubuntu, you might want to change your nick - just type: /nick newnickhere
[08:58] <blujay> rocktoberer: probably not, but you could run an SMP kernel if you want, I think
[08:59] <ubuntu> os x and windows are still more visually pleasing...
[08:59] <kerm> i'm running quake 2 native and it's fun i guess but i miss the quirks of half-life
[08:59] <ubuntu> but i bet gnome will catch up
[08:59] <pip_> hehe~~it is 15:00 in the afternoon in china
[09:00] <Rug> XGL kicks all others ass
[09:00] <kerm> i like gnome...i'm running a pIII 450mhz and it works pretty well except for maximizing a terminal window...it slows down and makes vim editing hard
[09:00] <farous> take care all goto go now was fun as usual
[09:00] <kerm> see ya
[09:00] <ubuntu> 450? wow
[09:00] <graft> Yeah, that XGL stuff is very impressive visually
[09:00] <ubuntu> what is XGL?
[09:00] <graft> and i'm hoping KDE4 will do the same functionally
[09:01] <graft> XGL is an open-GL based X windows server
[09:01] <kerm> yeah...7 year old computer...never died on me. when it does i'll join the moder world..lol
[09:01] <kerm> *modern
[09:01] <ubuntu> wow
[09:02] <kerm> i said i'd never buy a new box just for games and it's the only compelling reason to do so in my book.
[09:02] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:02] <kerm> hey
[09:02] <Sp4rKy> can i make a local cddb server please ?
[09:02] <Rug> Sp4rKy: go for it
[09:04] <InnerFIRE> i ran sudo dosfsck -a /dev/sdb and got an output of this...
[09:05] <Sp4rKy> Rug , what, i don't understand ...
[09:05] <rocktoberer> heh i have an old Pentium I that i have been thinking of putting back together just for giggles
[09:05] <InnerFIRE> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[09:05] <InnerFIRE> Logical sector size is zero.
[09:05] <Killgore> program to check what resolution im running
[09:05] <Rug> rocktoberer: it'll make a great server, go for it
[09:06] <kerm> i'd do tit rocktoberer...why have the old tech fill up land fills when you can put it to some use
[09:06] <kerm> *it ...lol
[09:06] <George007> !ftp
[09:06] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[09:06] <Killgore> rocktoberer: what are u gonna do?
[09:06] <Sp4rKy> Rug, what must i do to install a local cddb server and copy all the data of a big cddb server to my local ?
[09:06] <Tazz> haha
[09:06] <kerm> i'd make a nethack machine at the very least
[09:06] <Mau> does anyone knows how can i open some ports for azureus(torrent) use? i need someones...
[09:06] <rocktoberer> killgore: i have an old pentium I box sitting around in parts
[09:07] <Rug> Sp4rKy: First thing I'd do is contact a "big CDDB" server and ask them if you can copy thier data.
[09:07] <rocktoberer> been thinking of putting it back together
[09:07] <Mau> does anyone knows how can i open some ports for azureus(torrent) use? i need someones... please
[09:07] <Killgore> rocktoberer: oh yeah old hardware rules
[09:07] <kerm> i'm with Killgore on this.
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> Rug ok :/
[09:07] <Sp4rKy> is there another way to use cddb (on extracted data for example)
[09:08] <InnerFIRE> disk manager says its formatted with vfat
[09:08] <rocktoberer> i think the ram from it got thrown away
[09:08] <Sp4rKy> because i haven't net acces when i extract cds :/
[09:08] <rocktoberer> and the hard disk literally screams
[09:08] <kerm> what would be leet is to make your own email server on an old comp..or maybe a hardware firewall.
[09:08] <rocktoberer> i plugged it into this box once to see if there was any data on it and it made my ears pop
[09:09] <rocktoberer> it sounded like a demon from hell
[09:09] <Rug> kerm: I've got a fleet of 486's runnign as my firewalls
[09:09] <ziesemer> Anyone willing to help a newb for a few minutes?  Just installed 5.1.  Still quite new to *nix.  Used Fedora a little in the past...
[09:10] <kerm> Rug: that is frickin' sweet.
[09:10] <Rug> ziesemer: what is your question?
[09:10] <ziesemer> Rug:  For one, something simple - how to put "Open Terminal" on desktop context menu?
[09:10] <graft> ah crap... i'm going to regret doing this
[09:11] <ziesemer> Read something about installing "nautilus-open-terminal".  Downloaded the package, opens in Archive manager, which says it can't use it.
[09:11] <Rug> my current project, assemble all the old PC's together, and I am building a cluster for video transcoding
[09:11] <kerm> i have a beat up 486 lying around with a corrupt hard drive and i'd love to put it to work.
[09:11] <Rug> kerm: for a firewall, all you need is a CD-ROM or a floppy.
[09:12] <Killgore> can anybody tell my why  Rythmbox cant edit the id3 tags of my mp3's???
[09:12] <kerm> why should it? it's mp3s...you know as in the evil format.
[09:12] <Killgore> i can change it with nautilus
[09:12] <Killgore> oh yeah
[09:12] <Killgore> i forgot about that
[09:13] <Killgore> so for example amoraK could?
[09:13] <devnull> that is silly
[09:13] <Rug> ziesemer: so you want to modify the right-click menu to give you a "Open Term" option?
[09:13] <ramza3> linux question, I want to set the permission on a home directory to write per a user in my group;  this is right?  chmod 77577
[09:13] <bsdfox> yes
[09:13] <ziesemer> Rug:  Yes.  I realize it's trivial, but it's a learning thing for me...
[09:13] <ramza3> yea
[09:13] <Madpilot> Killgore, try EasyTag for id3 editing
[09:13] <kerm> chmod g+w
[09:13] <Rug> ziesemer: sorry I can't remember.  I'd have to google it
[09:14] <Killgore> Madpilot: lol i was just thinking of that but couldnt remember the name
[09:14] <OrTigaS> hi i'm trying to add a printer but it wont show when i'm trying to add..its a standalone printer in a network
[09:14] <Speedlink|war> need some help, how do i remove something from ubuntu? Ex something i've installed
[09:14] <kerm> if you want the whole group that is
[09:14] <MikeStyle> hey guys/gals...whats the command to change the write permissions on my external hard drive? its /mnt/usbdrive
[09:14] <Speedlink|war> need some help, how do i remove something from ubuntu? Ex something i've installed
[09:14] <Killgore> Madpilot: do u know how to check my resolution with a command line program?
[09:14] <kerm> apt-get uninstall "appname"
[09:14] <Speedlink|war> alright, let me try
[09:14] <ziesemer> Also, after just installing 5.1, shouldn't I be seeing at least _some_ updates from the update manager?  (Certainly there were updates since the ISO was made??)
[09:14] <Madpilot> Killgore, not offhand, no
[09:14] <Speedlink|war> root@playz-cs01:~# apt-get uninstall ddclient
[09:14] <Speedlink|war> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[09:14] <rocktoberer> bah who needs mp3's (i am currently listening to a johnny cash record i found at a flea market today)
[09:14] <Speedlink|war> :-(
[09:15] <Rug> kerm: Isn't it:  apt-get remove
[09:15] <Killgore> Madpilot: ive used it before i guess i could find the websote
[09:15] <Speedlink|war> I tried remove, but when i try to install it again, it wont let me configurate it like i did it the first time.
[09:15] <kerm> correct...Rug is right
[09:15] <MikeStyle> rocktoberer, vinyls are of the best quality
[09:15] <Killgore> MikeStyle: yes....of course they are
[09:15] <kerm> might want to put a "-purge" on that as well to clean dependencies
[09:15] <Speedlink|war> alright
[09:15] <kerm> *--purge i mean
[09:16] <MikeStyle> whats the command to change the write permissions on my external hard drive? its /mnt/usbdrive
[09:16] <Rug> kerm: Where ya from?
[09:16] <kerm> utah, usa at the moment
[09:16] <Rug> ahh
[09:16] <rocktoberer> MikeStyle: you are correct, sir.  I am going to go put Queen in
[09:16] <MikeStyle> QUEEN!!
[09:17] <MikeStyle> one of the greatest bands of all time
[09:17] <MikeStyle> who cares if they were gay?
[09:17] <MikeStyle> not me
[09:17] <MikeStyle> plus the guitarist was straight
[09:17] <kerm> only the singer was gay i think
[09:17] <Rug> G'night all.  It's 3:15am and I gotta get up in 4hours
[09:17] <Killgore> nite
[09:17] <kerm> see ya Rug
[09:17] <MikeStyle> kerm, bassist, drummer, and singer = gay
[09:18] <MikeStyle> i mean: KERM: bassist drummer and singer
[09:18] <MikeStyle> not to be confused with kerm is as well as these other
[09:18] <MikeStyle> ;)
[09:18] <kerm> MikeStyle: Wow..didn't know that! Still don't matter, thay owned.
[09:18] <MikeStyle> yea
[09:18] <dssjon> is there a benefit in using ms true type fonts??
[09:18] <Killgore> for what dssjon
[09:18] <MikeStyle> whats the command to change the write permissions on my external hard drive? its /mnt/usbdrive
[09:18] <ramza3> kerm: one more question, if I add a user to /etc/group ...do I have to reload anything to enforce the policy
[09:19] <dssjon> for firefox
[09:19] <conrad_> Ubuntu rocks
[09:19] <Madpilot> dssjon, some Flash stuff seems to need them. Aside from that, no.
[09:19] <kerm> hmm...i don't think so.
[09:19] <conrad_> yea...
[09:20] <conrad_> repeat after me: "Ubuntu rocks!"
[09:20] <ziesemer> Why does the Update Manager not have any updates after a 5.10 install??
[09:20] <ramza3> Dapper Rocks?!!!
[09:20] <conrad_> yea...hmmmm....Amen
[09:20] <Killgore> not for games it doesnt
[09:20] <rob> it all rocks!
[09:20] <dssjon> k, thanks
[09:21] <dssjon> anyone have any tips to speed up ubuntu?
[09:21] <kerm> There's a lot of good games for Linux...but we still tend to miss the windows games we grew up with.
[09:21] <MikeStyle> does anyone know the answer to my question?
[09:21] <conrad_> ramza3: i haven't dared upgrade to dapper yet. Is it stable enough now?
[09:21] <MikeStyle> for games i just use wine and cedega
[09:21] <unstable> Why does ubuntu need seperate distributions...like kubuntu/xubuntu/edubuntu/ubuntu. I can take any one of the 4 and turn it into any one of the other 4. What is the point of all the names?
[09:21] <kerm> chmod u+w /mnt/usbdrive
[09:21] <MikeStyle> or i get cross platform games
[09:21] <ramza3> conrad_: shrug, I am using it on one my machines;  I just did 500 updates
[09:21] <MikeStyle> kerm is that from su or do i sudo
[09:22] <kerm> sudo
[09:22] <Madpilot> unstable, makes it easy for new users to know what they're dealing with
[09:22] <ramza3> conrad_: works for me
[09:22] <Killgore> MikeStyle: yeah
[09:22] <PwcrLinux> gotta wait for dapper release on June 1st
[09:22] <conrad_> ramza3: hehe....i had Dapper kubuntu 3/4 weeks back and my system just crashed-so, it definitely wasn't ready then
[09:22] <Killgore> unstable: it makes it easier for people
[09:22] <dssjon> Anyone have any good tips on speeding up ubuntu?
[09:23] <ramza3> conrad_, ah, well mine is working and I havent used kubuntu yet
[09:23] <LoCusF> upgrade to dapper :)
[09:23] <Killgore> dssjon: what hardware u running
[09:23] <kerm> run a light windows manager like XFCE or fluxbox dssjon
[09:23] <MikeStyle> kerm, that isnt working
[09:23] <dssjon> ibm thinkpad t43
[09:23] <kerm> if it's ancient harware
[09:23] <conrad_> from a breezy install is it apt-get distribution upgrade?
[09:23] <dssjon> 1.8ghz, 1gb ddr2 ram
[09:23] <kerm> MikeStyle: what's it say?
[09:23] <rocktoberer> i think i just woke up my entire house
[09:23] <Killgore> dssjon: and you want it to run faster?
[09:24] <dssjon> yep
[09:24] <MikeStyle> when i try to put something on the drive it says : cannot write to directory
[09:24] <MikeStyle> or something
[09:24] <dssjon> evolution takes like 3 seconds to start.. too slow
[09:24] <rocktoberer> the box that holds my vinyls split open and crashed everywhere
[09:24] <Killgore> dssjon: what is the slowest part?
[09:24] <dssjon> and bootup takes a minute atleast
[09:24] <Killgore> hmm
[09:24] <ramza3> conrad_: me I did the cd
[09:24] <LoCusF> dssjon: try prelinking
[09:24] <Killgore> dssjon: boot takes about 30secs for me
[09:24] <Killgore> LoCusF: whats that
[09:24] <kerm> MikeStyle: try chmod u+xwr /usb/"whatever"
[09:24] <dssjon> locusf, whats prelinking?
[09:24] <conrad_> ramza3: ok! you can download dapper already?
[09:25] <ramza3> conrad_, development releases
[09:25] <MikeStyle> its in /mnt/usbdrive
[09:25] <dssjon> killgore, do you know how i can eliminate some of the fluff from bootup?
[09:25] <LoCusF> dssjon: Killgore http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml
[09:25] <ramza3> conrad_: I got one 2 weeks ago
[09:25] <kerm> ok... sudo chmod u+wxr /mnt/usbdrive
[09:25] <Killgore> dssjon: yeah there is a good guide on www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:25] <conrad_> my badger is still doing such a fiiiine job - if it aint broke don't fix it : )
[09:25] <ramza3> conrad_, hehe
[09:25] <Speedlink|war> how do i change my kernel hz to 1000? I've heard that this is a improvement for game-servers?
[09:26] <dssjon> k, thanks
[09:26] <ramza3> was the badger the first release?
[09:26] <MikeStyle> kerm, still says cannot write to /mnt/usbdrive/
[09:26] <conrad_> ramza3: no....we had hoary before then
[09:26] <Killgore> LoCusF: does ubuntu have prelink installed
[09:26] <ramza3> conrad_, ah
[09:26] <Speedlink|war> how do i change my kernel hz to 1000? I've heard that this is a improvement for game-servers?
[09:27] <rocktoberer> MikeStyle: i found the Beach Boys before Queen so I decided to put it in first
[09:27] <LoCusF> Killgore: no
[09:27] <MikeStyle> rocktoberer, got any zeppelin/beatles?
[09:28] <Killgore> gotta have zeppeling
[09:28] <kerm> have you really mounted it MikeStyle...if you type mount, does it list "mnt/usbdrive"?
[09:28] <Killgore> bah zepplin
[09:28] <MikeStyle> golden slumbers is a must this late at night (atleast its late here
[09:28] <MikeStyle> )
[09:28] <Killgore> ahh no-one noes how to spell it anyway
[09:28] <MikeStyle> kerm : /dev/sda1 on /mnt/usbdrive type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000,user=mike)
[09:28] <dssjon> locusf, i ust installed prelink is there an easy configuration or do i need to do some research
[09:29] <cafuego> Nobody knows how to spell zeppelin?
[09:29] <conrad_> right now Mark Shuttlworth + team are all singing and clapping to the tune: " WE WILL...We will Rock You (clap, clap); we will, we will rock you!"
[09:29] <Killgore> doesnt it have 2 ls cafuego
[09:29] <MikeStyle> killgore, golden slumbers ;)
[09:29] <cafuego> !dict zeppelin
[09:29] <ubotu> Dictionary 'zeppelin' (2 shown): German inventor who designed and built the first rigid motorized dirigible (1838-1917) ;; a large rigid dirigible designed to carry passengers or bombs .
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> !offtopic
[09:29] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:29] <cafuego> The prostitution rests.
[09:29] <Killgore> lol
[09:30] <kerm> try to cd into /mnt/usbdrive ..does it let you?
[09:30] <conrad_> does ubuntu rocks constitute as support?
[09:30] <ziesemer> I just installed 5.1.  I know there HAS to be updates available.  Why doesn't the Update Manager list anything??
[09:30] <MikeStyle> kerm, yes it does
[09:30] <kerm> if you ls...is anything listed?
[09:31] <MikeStyle> kerm, yea all my windows crap thats backed up on it
[09:31] <kerm> what's the permissions of whats there. (ls -l)
[09:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> ziesemer: it probably doesnt have the internet sources in it's list, there's about 90mb of updates, btw
[09:31] <ziesemer> Kamping_Kasier - thanks.  How do I add Internet sources?
[09:31] <LoCusF> dssjon: don't think that you need
[09:31] <MikeStyle> kerm, when i type ls -l , alot of permissions come up...most under root root
[09:31] <rocktoberer> MikeStyle: sadly, I do not
[09:31] <MikeStyle> in fact, all under root root
[09:32] <Madpilot> !tell ziesemer about repos
[09:32] <MikeStyle> anyone here like xfce like i do?
[09:32] <Speedlink|war> Best FTP for ubuntu?
[09:32] <kerm> oh, i see. maybe you ought to try su then. i beleive there is a difference in this case
[09:33] <dssjon> locusf, i just ran it but every says cannot prelin kagainst non-pic shared lib's
[09:33] <LoCusF> dssjon: don't worry
[09:33] <LoCusF> its ok
[09:33] <PwcrLinux> !ftp
[09:33] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[09:33] <LoCusF> dssjon: it takes a while
[09:33] <Speedlink|war> cheers
[09:33] <rocktoberer> MikeStyle: i do have Dick Clark's 20 Years Of Rock And Roll and Chanukah Songs For Children
[09:33] <Speedlink|war> !http
[09:33] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Speedlink|war
[09:33] <Speedlink|war> :)p
[09:33] <cyh> i have used "chsh" to change my shell to /bin/zsh, but when i start a terminal window it still comes up bash? How do i change that?
[09:33] <kerm> if not: sudo chown mike:mike /mnt/usbdrive
[09:34] <MisterN> hi
[09:34] <kerm> *sudo chown -r mike:mike /mnt/usbdrive
[09:34] <MikeStyle> kerm, invalid operation -r
[09:35] <kerm> excuse me: sudo chown -r mike:mike /mnt/usbdrive
[09:35] <kerm> excuse me: sudo chown -R mike:mike /mnt/usbdrive
[09:35] <_vijay> hi all, how to remove hard drive icons from my desktop??
[09:35] <j-linux> Is there a way to view available wireless connections from a terminal (without kismet)?
[09:36] <kerm> right clik...and click "move to trash"
[09:36] <MikeStyle> kerm, ok i think its working
[09:36] <ndlovu_> jlinux: iwlist scan
[09:36] <kerm> cool
[09:36] <sp[ee] d> jlinux: iwlist eth1 scan
[09:36] <MikeStyle> its changing ownership of like 50 gb of files lol
[09:36] <sp[ee] d> eth1 is your wlan interface
[09:36] <MikeStyle> im on wireless :)
[09:37] <dssjon> anyone use AD ZAPPER ?
[09:37] <MikeStyle> no
[09:37] <dj-fu> what's that?
[09:37] <dssjon> kills ads on websites
[09:37] <Madpilot> dssjon, Firefox has an adblocker plugin available
[09:37] <MikeStyle> or u could use ad-block by firefox/mozilla
[09:38] <dssjon> its my replacement for norton internet security on my windows partition
[09:38] <MikeStyle> HAHA
[09:38] <MikeStyle> dssjon
[09:38] <MikeStyle> get nod32
[09:38] <sufa> how do i change my default WM in gnome?
[09:38] <dssjon> Madpilot, that one requires alot of manual blocking
[09:38] <j-linux> sp[ee] d: thanks... didn't work for me.  Says eth2 Failed to read scan data: Operation not supported.  (eth2 is my wireless)
[09:38] <kerm> use firefox on your windows partitio to be safer
[09:38] <j-linux> I'll try to figure it out...
[09:39] <MikeStyle> sufa, when u install a new one itll ask u which u want to be default...otherwise at the login screen u can change session to it and set as default
[09:39] <ndlovu_> j-linux: try sudo iwlist eth2 scan...
[09:39] <sufa> no no, not the session, i mean the wm, i want to use gnome with flux instead of metacity
[09:39] <sufa> or whatever the default gnome one is
[09:39] <j-linux> ndlovu_: I tried that and got the same error... strange.
[09:39] <dssjon> is there a need for anti virus software in linux ? anyone actually ever gotten a linux virus?
[09:40] <ziesemer> Fedora had a nice "Services" applet where all the services could be enabled/disabled by runlevel.  Anything like that in Ubuntu?
[09:40] <Madpilot> dssjon, no need, really. No viruses in the wild for *nix yet
[09:40] <PwcrLinux> dssjon: mostly Windows, not on the linuxes..
[09:40] <MikeStyle> omg kerm, its still not working
[09:40] <dssjon> so installing av on ubuntu will just slow it down
[09:40] <dssjon> ill skip it.
[09:40] <celerex> dssjon: if you want one, try clamav
[09:40] <MikeStyle> IF ANYONE HERE HAS WINDOWS AS WELL GET NOD32 AV
[09:40] <celerex> thanks for that mike
[09:41] <Madpilot> MikeStyle, no need to shout - esp. about Windoze
[09:41] <ndlovu_> j-linux: dunno, maybe not supported by your driver. is eth2 your wireless interface though? usually it's eth1.
[09:41] <kerm> MikeStyle: one last thing...try writing directly to /dev/sda1
[09:41] <MikeStyle> sorry i just figured if anyone in here uses it they atleast better be protected by the best
[09:41] <celerex> that sir, is a matter of opinion
[09:41] <j-linux> mdlovu_: My internal wireless is eth1 but it doesn't work well so I use an Orinoco gold... eth2
[09:41] <celerex> oooh.. Orinoco gold..
[09:41] <celerex> nice cards
[09:42] <Killgore> if i add a new resolution to xorg.conf do i need to dpkg reconfigure?
[09:42] <dssjon> Anyone here have the super multi-boot disc??
[09:42] <MikeStyle> celerex, true, but 98.6% of opinion point to it
[09:42] <MikeStyle> and last thing i learned in algebra was to round up
[09:42] <MikeStyle> kerm :(
[09:42] <dssjon> Super WinPE
[09:43] <celerex> noi've used nod.. used a hand ful of others
[09:43] <celerex> nod had a rather large footprint
[09:43] <MikeStyle> i really need to transfer this 1.4 gb of files to my windows box so i can burn to dvd
[09:43] <celerex> wasn't bad though
[09:43] <MikeStyle> and my ipod
[09:43] <ndlovu_> dssjon: what do you mean 'multi-boot disc'?
[09:43] <dssjon> there is a cd called Super WinPE that is basically a Windows XP LIVE CD
[09:43] <j-linux> super wipe?
[09:43] <dssjon> it also has several other OS'
[09:44] <dssjon> Super WinPE
[09:44] <j-linux> just kidding
[09:44] <ziesemer> Look for BartPE otherwise...
[09:44] <celerex> Super BSOD?
[09:44] <MikeStyle> celerex i love nod...HATE norton/mcaffe/syntematic...avg is ok, kasperspy doesnt pick up half what nod does...panda same as kasper
[09:44] <dssjon> I cant torrent it because im behind a campus firewall..
[09:44] <kerm> MikeStyle: i'm out of ideas unfortunately. my only other idea is in how it's mounted. if it's a usb drive..it should magically appear on your gnome desktop.
[09:44] <MikeStyle> kerm...i am magically using xfce :)
[09:44] <kerm> oh..lol
[09:44] <dssjon> BartPE requires a standard XP disk, .. I have an IBM streamlimed disk.. so I cant use BartPE
[09:44] <MikeStyle> i dislike gnome
[09:45] <ndlovu_> dssjon: I like the Ultimate Boot CD - various linux versions, specifically tailored for diagnosis and recovery
[09:45] <dssjon> ndlovu, does it have Win PE ?
[09:46] <ndlovu_> dssjon :-) no, it does not have Win PE
[09:46] <celerex> oooh.. wish me luck. time to try latest vista beta! w00t w00t
[09:46] <rocktoberer> bleh
[09:47] <MikeStyle> celerex...windows....
[09:47] <MikeStyle> how could you
[09:47] <celerex> hey.. it's what I do.
[09:47] <celerex> need to make $ somehow
[09:47] <sufa> ?
[09:47] <LoCusF> indeed
[09:47] <MikeStyle> i work with them too
[09:47] <sufa> explain
[09:47] <MikeStyle> i work for ISP/REpair
[09:47] <kerm> i have xfce but for some reason after some use...it always becomes gnome-like if that makes anysense...like a strange hybrid of the two.
[09:47] <sufa> ok cool
[09:47] <Madpilot> guys - Windows chat to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, please
[09:47] <MikeStyle> i have 2 windoze and a mac at work...here i have my laptop (ubuntu) and my 1337 windoze box lol
[09:48] <MikeStyle> god my head hurts
[09:49] <MikeStyle> alrighty well im gonna go to sleep
[09:49] <monsterb> Anyone have a problem with system clock in a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows box? Clock always 6 hours off.
[09:49] <kerm> g'night MikeStyle
[09:49] <rocktoberer> night
[09:49] <MikeStyle> night all
[09:49] <celerex> monsterb: what timezone you in?
[09:49] <gnlnx> night
[09:49] <monsterb> central
[09:49] <celerex> that'd explain it
[09:49] <ziesemer> I'm in central too!
[09:49] <celerex> linux thinks your clock is set to UTC
[09:49] <sufa> does anyone use a different WM with gnome?
[09:49] <celerex> so adjusts
[09:49] <celerex> which ones is correct?
[09:49] <celerex> linux?
[09:50] <kerm> besides metacity? i don't
[09:50] <monsterb> ziesemer u having that clock problem?
[09:50] <sufa> kerm, you know any way to change it/.
[09:50] <ziesemer> No, don't think.
[09:50] <celerex> monsterb: which one is correct? LInux or WIndows?
[09:50] <kerm> i know how to change desktop environments
[09:50] <monsterb> linux
[09:51] <kerm> say between sfce, gnome, kde and the like but not between wms like metacity
[09:51] <kerm> *xfce
[09:51] <celerex> monsterb: ok, linux has changed yoru system clock to be UTC time (grenich time +0GMT)
[09:52] <celerex> so, you've set your timezone to Central (-6GMT) and linux automatically adjusts
[09:52] <celerex> windows, does not
[09:52] <sufa> kerm, i want to change between metacity and fluxbox
[09:52] <celerex> so, reset your hardware clock back to the proper time, and in the config file.. (i'll find it for you in a second) change linux back from UTC to local
[09:52] <kerm> what if you just log in and choose fluxbox from the ubuntu username/password menu. dowes that work?
[09:52] <monsterb> Thanks celerex - that makes since - i will do that
[09:53] <celerex> I presume windows is 6 hours fast?
[09:53] <monsterb> yes
[09:53] <celerex> yup, exactly what happened then
[09:53] <dssjon> what are some good irc channels?
[09:54] <celerex> #pr0n is always good
[09:54] <kerm> there was a good blog article on how to use ubuntu and fluxbox on digg.com the other day.
[09:54] <monsterb> celerex that did it! I just rebooted into windows and time is correct. thx
[09:54] <celerex> np
[09:54] <celerex> i dont' know what file you need to chnage
[09:55] <celerex> gut you have to tell linux that the clock isn't UTC it's your local time
[09:55] <kerm> sufa: here ya go... digg.com/linux_unix/How_To_Install_Fluxbox_in_Ubuntu
[09:55] <monsterb> found file: changed UTC: no
[09:55] <sufa> wow
[09:55] <sufa> kerm,  you are a hero
[09:55] <kerm> hehe..thanks
[09:58] <ndlovu_> what are the advantages of using an i586 kernel instead of i386?
[09:58] <monsterb> celerex - the filename is rcS - it is located /etc/default/rcS
[09:58] <alon> how can i set the login screen resolution?
[09:58] <kerm> g'night guys
[09:58] <celerex> thanks
[09:58] <saik0> ndlovu_, in a nutshell it's compiled with more optimizationsenabled , faster kernel
[09:59] <celerex> ndlovu_: a very LIMITED number of performance increases.. takes advantage of some things specific to your cpu architecture..
[09:59] <celerex> and a slightly smaller kernel
[09:59] <monsterb> I only had that problem with Debian based distros - I glad it's fixed
[09:59] <Killgore> saik0: which kernels are which then>
[09:59] <ndlovu_> saik0, celerex: but might it cause issues with other packages that assume i386? (I'm installing java at the moment for example)
[10:00] <Killgore> saik0: for example i have an AMD 2400+XP
[10:00] <alon> how can i set the login screen resolution?
[10:01] <CraiZE> alon, u mean GDM ?
[10:01] <celerex> the x86 architecture is completely backwards compatible