[01:14] <cjb_> does anyone know if ubuntu touch can run cron?
[01:19] <duflu> cjb_, I haven't looked, but it should. It's just an Ubuntu installation now
[01:22] <cjb_> duflu: does that mean it has all the same commands as the desktop version?
[01:22] <duflu> cjb_: Yes, it should do
[01:23] <duflu> Although it's plausible some not required for touch aren't installed by default. All should still be installable
[01:23] <cjb_> thru apt-get, right?
[01:25] <Cynp> Hey Guys, at the end of the install after my Nexus has installed the armhf.zip and reboots, it stays on the Google logo and doesnt boot
[01:25] <cjb_> duflu: thank you, I might install it now.
[01:26] <Cynp> doesnt boot into touch*
[01:39] <melvster> can i run a full web server on ubuntu touch ... would there be any issues?
[02:08] <duflu> melvster: Sure, it's just an Ubuntu machine. But remember touch devices are not as powerful as modern desktops/laptops
[02:08] <melvster> duflu: woot! :D
[02:08] <melvster> am just reading ... http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
[02:09] <melvster> and that makes me even more glad i switched to ubuntu touch :)
[02:10] <duflu> melvster: Almost all packages should have armhf builds done for them. So just apt-get install ...
[02:12] <melvster> duflu: brilliant ... im thinking about trying phablet with pagekite and a webserver
[02:14] <duflu> melvster: Oh and I almost forgot... the touch images are now read-only by default so packages won't install. You can fix that with something like "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[02:16] <linuxuz3r> is there an appstore for ubuntu touch?
[02:16] <linuxuz3r> like google play or app store?
[02:20] <melvster> linuxuz3r: yes i think it's the normal ubuntu app store ... 68000 apps there last time i counted ... duflu thanks!
[02:28] <Cynp> Hey, any reason why my device wouldnt automatically reboot into the Ubuntu Touch UI?
[02:28] <Cynp> It just boots to the google logo and thats it. Am i missing something?
[02:29] <linuxuz3r> melvster, ok
[02:30] <duflu> Cynp: Hmm, that's what happens when no display server has started. Log a bug, methinks
[02:31] <linuxuz3r> melvster i dont have ubuntu tocuh installed in my android device but are there paid apps in the ubuntu app store
[02:31] <melvster> linuxuz3r: i didnt see any yet, but im sure there will be some if not now then soon
[02:32] <melvster> i only installed this weekend :)
[02:32] <melvster> so still learning ...
[02:33] <FabianCook> Anyone else notice the insane jitter when scrolling?
[02:38] <FabianCook> Question, should I make my storage helpers in QML or C++? What is preferred?
[02:41] <Cynp> duflu: aha! yeah it took ages for it to start up. Now... to get cellular data to work
[02:46] <OrokuSaki> <trying to run *mer* while I wait for jhodapp to do some codec stuff =)
[02:46] <OrokuSaki> Where would we be without Mer? =)
[02:48] <Cynp> Does anyone else get random freezes?
[03:04] <thatguyisjames> i got it up and running, and i know this is still in dev state... but, anyone manage to get the alarm to show the time set, or is this non working currently?
[03:07] <FabianCook> Cynp, Just got one now
[03:12] <Cynp> Lol trying to login to gmail, asks for verification and then i dont receive any sms code
[03:14] <JoeK_> I'm currently trying to flash Ubuntu onto my Nexus 4. My terminal is showing "INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for install to finish on device. Please do not unplug device until phablet-flash finishes." and my phone screen is on, but it's on a blank screen. Should I restart the flash?
[03:16] <FabianCook> thatguyisjames, it seems to be working for me
[03:16] <FabianCook> JoeK_, Nah, it takes some time
[03:17] <JoeK_> okay
[03:17] <FabianCook> JoeK_, Are you sure its not actually done and the screen is off?
[03:17] <JoeK_> I can tell the the phone screen is on.
[03:18] <JoeK_> I could try powering off and then power on and see if it's done
[03:19] <Cynp> JoeK_: load up another terminal and try adb shell ls
[03:20] <JoeK_> ok it listed a table of contents
[03:21] <Cynp> JoeK_: if it gives you a list of files, that means that your phone is on and working
[03:22] <Cynp> JoeK_: and booted up into ubuntu, you can remove the ls so, "adb shell" and you will be able to see the hostname
[03:22] <Cynp> My screen took a good 60+ seconds for it to start up first time.
[03:23] <JoeK_> should i reboot phone?
[03:25] <stardome> has anyone here tried putting ubuntu touch on an Asus Transformer tablet?
[03:27] <JoeK_> okay, the other terminal has completed it's process. It said "Installation is taking too long or an error occured along the way." But I restarted the phone and I am in Ubuntu. So It looks Okay.
[03:28] <FabianCook> Should be fine then xD
[03:28] <JoeK_> Thanks for the help
[03:58] <mark```> The phone/install page says that Ubuntu Phone will connect to a GSM network. This might just me emphasizing that it won't do data. But it might mean that it won't work on Wind Mobile's AWS 1700/2100MHz network. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Touch would or would not be expected to work with voice calls on an AWS network?
[03:59] <mark```> "me emphasizing" = "be emphasizing"
[05:05] <stgraber> ogra_: I'm heading to bed now, but I believe I've fixed livecd-rootfs for trusty and there's an image building now. So if it all works, you should have your first trusty image published on system-image by the time you get online.
[05:50] <AskUbuntu> Creating a library for Ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/362865
[07:10] <dholbach> good morning
[07:51] <dun> I can not use 3g data. i using china unicom,who can i help me?
[07:54] <AskUbuntu> Swedish keyboard on Ubuntu Touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/362910
[08:35] <JamesTait> You got back safely then?
[08:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Apple Day! :-D
[08:45] <dun> good afternoon!
[09:05] <ondra> john-mcaleely: ping
[09:08] <haziq> Hello
[09:08] <haziq> I have sony ericsson live with walkman wt19i and i want to know that my phone can run ubuntu?
[09:10] <popey> haziq: is it listed at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices ?
[09:10] <haziq> No.
[09:10] <popey> then no, someone would need to port it
[09:11] <haziq> Ok thanks for help :)
[09:47] <nhaines> popey: I have a device and it's not supported by Ubuntu.  Can I still run Ubuntu on it?
[09:50] <popey> nhaines: is that sarcasm?
[09:51] <popey> my sarcasm detector is broken this morning
[09:51] <nhaines> popey: yes.
[09:51] <nhaines> popey: Also be forewarned: if the answer is "no", then I will argue with you because I want to run Ubuntu on it anyway.  Also I would like a pony.
[09:52] <popey> super
[09:54] <nhaines> popey: eh, scratch that.  I just realized that I have to log out and then in again in order to run Virtualbox, but I don't want to be required to do that.  So now I'm angry at that instead.
[09:55] <nhaines> On the plus side, the Virtualbox scopes possibly work very well.
[09:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:02] <spazzymoto> Did someone say pony...
[10:12] <janimo`> bzoltan, hi are there some details available on qtsensors work? bug 1227116 has little info. I'd like to try out the sensor functionality
[10:14] <nik90> janimo`: check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1241735
[10:14] <nik90> janimo`: apparently that's what is holding up qtsensors from landing
[10:15] <nik90> janimo`: the necessary code for haptic has landed in the sdk, however we are missing the qtsensors package which is being held back due to app armor stuff
[10:15] <janimo`> nik90, thanks
[10:16] <janimo`> nik90, do you know if applications can force their orientation (such as landscape) ?
[10:16] <janimo`> what I see is the automaticOrientation property
[10:16] <nik90> janimo`: afaik nope
[10:16] <nik90> janimo`: the automaticOrientation helps to switch to landscape mode automatically but does not enforce it
[10:17] <davmor2> tvoss: 101 took all day saturday and the morning sunday before the maguro needed a reboot because it was unusable, but as such it didn't crash just got too slow
[10:17] <davmor2> tvoss: I'm assuming there is still a memory leak but it is much slower
[10:18] <tvoss> davmor2, thx for the feedback, we will keep on digging further obviously
[10:28] <janimo`> kalikiana, regarding bug 1241735
[10:29] <janimo`> kalikiana, is the adb shell session subject to apparmor restrictions as well?
[10:29] <janimo`> kalikiana, echo 150 > /sys/class/timed_output/vibrator/enable works for me in a non-root shell on the nexus4 with the #100  image
[10:32] <kalikiana> janimo`: I'm using Galaxy Nexus, I recall that it used to work in the past but that was before mir or flipped images
[10:32] <kalikiana> right now without sudo it doesn't work
[10:33] <janimo`> kalikiana, what error do you get, EPERM?
[10:34] <kalikiana> I enter the user shell with "su -l phablet", then the echo fails with -su: /sys/class/timed_output/vibrator/enable: Permission denied
[10:38] <janimo`> kalikiana, do you echo into the file or using the snippet in the bugreport ?
[10:39] <janimo`> kalikiana, I directly echo 200 >/proc/...
[10:39] <janimo`> kalikiana, since the snippet actually tries to run that sysfs file
[10:39] <kalikiana> hum, very stupid mistake there | should be >…
[10:39] <kalikiana> it works
[10:40] <janimo`> kalikiana, \o/
[10:40] <kalikiana> sorry :-/
[10:40] <janimo`> kalikiana, np, good to know it works
[10:40] <kalikiana> now how do I know what permissions the app has?
[10:41] <janimo`> kalikiana, do you know whether forcing of app orientation is anywhere in the plans? A property similar to automaticOrientation but getting an orientation value
[10:41] <kalikiana> I'd like to distinguish a possible issue in code from apparmor blocking it
[10:41] <janimo`> kalikiana, if not I could try taking a look to see if I can add it myself
[10:41] <janimo`> kalikiana, if apparmor blocks it there will be messages in /var/log/syslog
[10:42] <janimo`> or apparmor-notify may be used ( I did not use it so I am not sure it works but I saw it in the docs)
[10:42] <janimo`> kalikiana, or you mean you want to detect the issue programatically inside the app?
[10:42] <kalikiana> janimo`: I proposed a bugfix for your bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1239760 it works, if you don't run into the bug
[10:43] <janimo`> kalikiana, thanks, I saw that branch just did not know whether something was blocking it (apart from the imminent release :)
[10:44] <kalikiana> janimo`: from the code I would think it does write just fine, so knowing if apparmor blocks it or not would mean I'm not spending time in the wrong place
[10:45] <kalikiana> no messages in /var/log/syslog at least
[10:54] <mdeslaur> kalikiana: apparmor doesn't block anything when you use an adb shell, also if you don't have anything in syslog, it's not apparmor
[10:55] <mdeslaur> kalikiana: what are the permissions on /sys/class/timed_output/vibrator/enable?
[10:57] <hich-em> est ce que ubuntu touch marche sur une tablet sanei N10???????
[10:57] <mdeslaur> hich-em: non
[10:58] <hich-em> mdeslaur merci :)
[10:59] <mdeslaur> hich-em: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[11:01] <hich-em> mdeslaur, my tablet it's not original it's like huawei
[11:24] <yahoo> ogra, whats the progres on GNEX dispaly driver fix ? I've been waiting for it :(
[11:24] <Rauero> yo!
[11:24] <ogra_> yahoo, ask tvoss
[11:24] <ogra_> he was looking into other options to improve the lag on maguro
[11:25] <yahoo> is tvoss here ?
[11:25] <yahoo> tvoss, whats the progres on GNEX dispaly driver fix ? I've been waiting for it :(
[11:25] <yahoo> ogra, sounds good
[11:25] <tvoss> yahoo, 101 already has some improvements, and there are a bunch of branches on mir up for review
[11:25] <Rauero> does anyone here try to change android to ubuntu using alcatel ot 6030x?
[11:25] <ogra_> yeah, i was referring to the Mir branches
[11:25] <tvoss> ogra_, yahoo in the review queue
[11:25] <yahoo> tvoss, when will it be released via OTA ?
[11:26] <tvoss> yahoo, can't say for sure, some of them likely this week
[11:26] <yahoo> BTW, terminal  app has some issues with keyboard. it wont show up
[11:26] <tvoss> yahoo, yup, we have got bugs logged for that
[11:27] <yahoo> ok. i'll have to flash my phone to android then :(
[11:27] <tvoss> yahoo, please check lp:ubuntu-keyboard then
[11:27] <tvoss> yahoo, are you on 100 or 101?
[11:27] <yahoo> what is 100 & 101 ?
[11:27] <tvoss> yahoo, image nr
[11:27] <yahoo> i am not sure.
[11:28] <popey> yahoo: adb shell system-image-cli -i
[11:28] <tvoss> ogra_, is 101 out via ota?
[11:28] <popey> that'll tell you
[11:28] <ogra_> tvoss, only in the proposed channel
[11:28] <tvoss> ogra_, ack
[11:28] <yahoo> in "about this phone", its 13.10 (r100)
[11:29] <yahoo> 101 has driver fixes ?
[11:29] <tvoss> yahoo, not driver fixes, but higher levels in the stack accounting for driver specifics
[11:29] <tvoss> yahoo, for maguro, 101 fixes some of the lag
[11:30] <davmor2> ogra_: improves the maguro slow down time for me to about a day and a half :)
[11:30] <yahoo> ok
[11:30] <ogra_> davmor2, yeah, there is still the upstart memleak and the Mir fixes from tvoss
[11:30] <yahoo> i'll wait for 101
[11:30] <yahoo> will it be out by tomorrow ?
[11:31] <davmor2> ogra_: Yeap but that is a vast improvement for 101
[11:35] <cwayne_> so is channel devel now pointing to trusty?
[11:35] <ogra_> not yet, no
[11:37] <janimo`> cwayne, you can install form trusty-proposed though
[11:37] <janimo`> if you want to try build 1 that is :)
[11:38] <cwayne_> janimo`, yeah, i'd seen it was setup, just checking to make sure that devl hasn't aliased to it yet :P
[11:40] <asac> tvoss: ogra_ said you have a MIR fix/patch for making the uevent spam go away? whats the status?
[11:41] <tvoss> asac, not in yet, need to check with kdub on its status
[11:41] <ogra_> would be good to be able to have that in trusty soon
[11:41] <ogra_> fi we see it is good, then also have it for saucy
[11:41] <tvoss> asac, requires us to access the android power HAL, need to make sure that parts are in place
[11:42] <tvoss> ogra_, asap, but need to cross-check with kdub
[11:42] <ogra_> yeah
[11:47] <ogra_> tvoss, so i wrote a good bunch of webapps on the weekend (four landed in the shop already) and i think there is a lot of work needed wrt backgrounding apps
[11:47] <ogra_> tvoss, if i run multiple webapps they never save their state properly when backgrounded
[11:48] <ogra_> tvoss, i often have dead apps in the list that dont get started at all again ... and at some point the shell even assigns the wrong labels to the thumbnails
[11:48] <tvoss> ogra_, that comes down to patching the webruntime then. For qml apps, the sdk takes care of that automatically
[11:48] <AskUbuntu> will ubuntu touch support Nexus 7 in the future | http://askubuntu.com/q/363009
[11:49] <ogra_> when i left the phone over night all apps were dead ...
[11:49] <ogra_> (seems suspending for a longer time flushes the ram underneat the apps or some such)
[11:49] <tvoss> ogra_, can you file a bug against unity8/unity-mir please?
[11:49] <ogra_> will do
[11:50] <ogra_> i'll land some more apps today as well (heise, n-tv etc ) so oyu can try yourself ...
[11:50] <tvoss> ogra_, thanks, but it is unlikely that I will come to triage that bug today
[11:50] <ogra_> it gets really weird if you get about 6 webapps running
[11:51] <ogra_> the oldes ones get killed and have to start from scratch if you flick through them (if tehy start at all)
[11:51] <popey> ogra_: you going to put them in the store?
[11:52] <ogra_> popey, yeah, 6 more waiting 4 went in tonight
[11:52] <trecker> someone speaks Russian?
[11:52] <ogra_> russians do
[11:52] <ogra_> (i heard)
[11:52] <trecker> yes
[11:53] <ogra_> tvoss, oh, btw, do you know if we have plans for printing ?
[11:53] <ogra_> asac, ^^^
[11:53] <ogra_> would be cool to be able to use network printers OOTB ... i dont think other mobile OSes do that without third party apps
[11:54] <Stskeeps> webos had, but given that was HP ..
[11:54] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[11:55] <ogra_> and given it drives their printers nowadays
[11:56] <tvoss> ogra_, we had a session about printing at one vuds. Till planned on stripping down the cups stack such that we can install a lightweight printing stack
[11:57] <tvoss> ogra_, just pinged tkamppeter in #ubuntu-devel
[11:58] <Trisse23> Hmm when will this become available on other devices than nexus? :)
[11:58] <Trisse23> And how is it working, is it smooth?
[11:59] <Aivaras> how long "Waiting for recovery image to boot" should take?
[12:04] <Aivaras> It seams that I can't boot to recovery image. Any ideas?
[12:07] <OrokuSaki> Morning all!
[12:15] <asac> ogra_: yeah. lightweight as in super-minimal would be great for printing stack :)
[12:15] <ogra_> yeah, only starting on demand
[12:16] <tvoss> ogra_, asac that was part of the original discussion
[12:17] <Aivaras> "insufficient permissions for device" then trying to adb then in ubuntu recovery
[12:18] <Aivaras> "adb devices" outputs device and "no premissions"
[12:25] <Aivaras> All I needed was adb server restart
[12:29] <mandel_> lool, ping
[12:31] <Aivaras> I will totally ne late to university because of this touch thing :D
[12:31] <Aivaras> be*
[12:39] <dholbach> ogra_, having fun?
[12:39] <ogra_> dholbach, so much paperwork :P
[12:39] <ogra_> creating the app takes half the time of submitting it
[12:40] <dholbach> well, you have to have a description and pictures and stuff - soon we'll land automatic reviews and inspection of the packages, so there'll be less duplicated information
[12:42] <ogra_> yeah, i understand ... and if i wouldnt sumit that info the the website it would have to be somewhere inside the package after all
[12:46] <sergiusens> ogra_, it's supposed to pick up all that info from the manifest itself eventually
[12:46] <ogra_> ah, nice
[12:54] <akiragt> hello
[13:08] <timetraveler> hi
[13:08] <guest101> hey everyone
[13:08] <guest101> i want to install ubuntu on my android
[13:08] <guest101> how do i go about that ?
[13:09] <timetraveler> I want to install ubuntu on my android too
[13:09] <timetraveler> but I have some questions
[13:09] <timetraveler> Is it stable version ?
[13:09] <guest101> anyone here can assist with the process ?
[13:11] <ogra_> guest1__, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[13:12] <ogra_> timetraveler, ^^^
[13:12] <tsdgeos> zsombi: any of you guys can review https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/micro-optimizations ?
[13:13] <ogra_> popey, is the BBC app yours ?
[13:13] <zsombi> tsdgeos: just checked it few minutes ago :)
[13:13] <tsdgeos> zsombi: oki :=)
[13:14] <ogra_> popey, i get an error trying to install it (and no info whats actually wrong apart that it tells me my U1 account has issues)
[13:15] <ogra_> (says: "your ubuntu one credentials are invalid")
[13:24] <stgraber> ogra_: did you test that trusty-proposed image?
[13:24] <ogra_> stgraber, yeah, runs fine on mako and maguro
[13:24] <stgraber> cool
[13:24] <ogra_> stgraber, thanks for the fix ( i had a hack pending but didnt feel like uploading on the weekend)
[13:25] <ogra_> curious how the next image will look like though :)
[13:25] <ogra_> this one is essentially just a renamed saucy
[13:25] <ogra_> the fun begins at 2
[13:25] <ogra_> :)
[13:27] <spazzymoto> is the root filesystem mounted as readonly? trying to install some python packages via apt and get W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:27] <ogra_> spazzymoto, yes
[13:30] <spazzymoto> ogra_: ah ok thanks. Is there a way to install packages via apt? would mount / -o remount,rw work, or not advised?
[13:30] <ogra_> you can make the fs writable with: touch /userdata/.writable_image ... and rebooting
[13:30] <systime> Just installed touch on my nexus 10.  When I try to play a video, I get audio but a black screen.  Is that a known issue?
[13:31] <ogra_> you will lose the ability to do OTA upgrades and apt will eventually break
[13:31] <ogra_> systime, sadly yes ...
[13:31] <systime> ogra_: Thanks.
[13:33] <tsdgeos> zsombi: Cid is my second surname so not the right way to adress me ;-) tx for the review anyway :D
[13:34] <zsombi> tsdgeos: auch, sorry dude, will keep that in mind!
[13:34] <tsdgeos> zsombi: no worries :D
[13:36] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, can you hear us on mumble?
[13:40] <spazzymoto> ogra_: ok thanks, will have to leave it as i dont want to break it
[13:43] <tsdgeos> zsombi: oh, my branch conflicts
[13:43]  * tsdgeos rebases/merges
[13:43] <zsombi> tsdgeos: fix it then :D
[13:44]  * zsombi eod
[13:54] <spazzymoto> got whatsapp working with yowsup in terminal
[13:54] <ogra_> wow, congrats
[13:56] <spazzymoto> is there a way to write a frontend with python currently? i dont think pyqt bindings are there
[13:57] <ogra_> there is no pyqt for Qt 5.0 i think
[13:57] <ogra_> so you would have to use C++/QML
[13:58] <louidgi> hi! during the install the phone said me that autodpoy.zip is not found
[13:58] <louidgi> evrybody to help me please?
[13:58] <spazzymoto> http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/news/pyqt-511
[13:59] <spazzymoto> pity but thanks ogra
[13:59] <ogra_> spazzymoto, i also dont think we want to encourage the usage of python ... it is way to demanding
[13:59] <ogra_> for small short running scripts thats fine, but not for constantly running processes
[14:00] <spazzymoto> fair enough
[14:00]  * spazzymoto goes to dust of C++ books
[14:00] <ogra_> :)
[14:02] <iBelieve> I'm on 13.10 (desktop) and have the Ubuntu SDK and all the core apps installed. I'm getting apparmor denials while connecting to the internet using the standard Network Manager indicator. Any chance this problem is related to having Ubuntu Touch-related stuff installed (due to confinement issues)?
[14:03] <iBelieve> My errors are: Oct 21 13:34:55 ubuntu-dev dbus[447]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call"  bus="system" path="/org/freedesktop/DBus" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus" member="Hello" mask="send" name="org.freedesktop.DBus" pid=3232 profile="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action" peer_profile="unconfined" info="Invalid argument"
[14:03] <iBelieve> Oct 21 13:34:55 ubuntu-dev dbus[447]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call"  bus="system" path="/org/freedesktop/DBus" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus" member="Hello" name="org.freedesktop.DBus" mask="receive" profile="unconfined" peer_pid=3232 peer_profile="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action" peer_info="Invalid argument"
[14:03] <JasonFelice> The docs on developer.ubuntu.com don't seem to include how to get an app to a phone.
[14:03] <JasonFelice> Package & deploy, I mean.
[14:03] <ogra_> iBelieve, yeah, sounds like it
[14:04] <iBelieve> ogra_, so what should I try uninstalling to test?
[14:04] <ogra_> iBelieve, hmm,, no idea, probably jdstrand can help here
[14:05] <ogra_> JasonFelice, http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/webapp/packaging-web-apps/ probably ?
[14:05] <iBelieve> ogra_, thanks
[14:06] <iBelieve> jdstrand, ping
[14:06] <jdstrand> iBelieve: your /etc/apparmor.d/sbin.dhclient or /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/dbus seems out of date
[14:06] <JasonFelice> ogra_: That gives some insight.  I'm working on a QML app, though.
[14:07] <JasonFelice> ogra_: Oh, found it.  Cool.
[14:07] <ogra_> yeah, i guess there should also be such a document for QML apps
[14:08] <iBelieve> jdstrand, I was able to connect to the internet using the terminal and then ran update/dist-upgrade, so the packages should be up-to-date. How would I see if the files are out of date?
[14:08] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: please perform https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseCycle#Individuals_.28devel.29 at your earliest convenience
[14:08] <jdstrand> meh
[14:08] <iBelieve> jdstrand, (I'm on 13.10, by the way)
[14:08] <jdstrand> bad paste
[14:09] <jdstrand> iBelieve: your /etc/apparmor.d/sbin.dhclient should have http://paste.ubuntu.com/6276993/
[14:09] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: nm
[14:09] <jdstrand> iBelieve: and /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/dbus should have these lines:
[14:09] <jdstrand>   /{,var/}run/dbus/system_bus_socket rw,
[14:09] <jdstrand>   dbus bus=system,
[14:10] <jdstrand> iBelieve: you might have some .dpkg-new files in /etc/apparmor.d
[14:10] <jdstrand> iBelieve: sorry, dpkg-dist
[14:11] <sergiusens> alecu,  dholbach, jdstrand have you guys seen the click scope dissappear recently? I think I can reproduce now
[14:11] <alecu> sergiusens: #100 ?
[14:11] <jdstrand> I've not seen that
[14:12] <dholbach> sergiusens, sometimes, yes
[14:13]  * ogra_ sees that at times but it comes back ....
[14:15] <iBelieve> jdstrand, the two files contain both those snippets correctly. However, I do remember getting some prompt about .dpkg-new or something like that during an upgrade.
[14:16] <jdstrand> iBelieve: perhaps reload the policy: sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/sbin.dhclient
[14:16] <jdstrand> iBelieve: then reboot and see if nm is working correctly
[14:18] <sergiusens> alecu, dholbach I ca reproduce when my nework is flaky; brings the whole scope down
[14:18] <sergiusens> alecu, #101
[14:19] <iBelieve> jdstrand, okay, thanks. I will try that. If it doesn't work, should I take the problem to #ubuntu as a general ubuntu problem?
[14:19] <sergiusens> dholbach, wrt to my webapp thing, I added a comment before your needs info ;-)
[14:19] <jdstrand> iBelieve: #ubuntu-hardened would be fine (I'm there too)
[14:19] <sergiusens> dholbach, oh, after it seems; you are fast!
[14:19] <dholbach> sergiusens, oops, must have missed it
[14:19] <dholbach> ha! :)
[14:20] <sergiusens> dholbach, nah, my mind is incorrectly date parsing; but it was too close to notice ;-)
[14:24] <sergiusens> alecu, is this useful? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6269433/ ... I ran the scope manually with --debug; not sure it would do the right thing anyways
[14:32] <alecu> sergiusens: no, that --debug is not understood by the scope
[14:33] <alecu> sergiusens: if you want the debug messages on stderr, you'll need this env var: G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all
[14:33] <jdstrand> mzanetti: hey, whenever I start uauth, it always shows the first code-- I then have to press for a new code over and over and remember the last one I used to get to the next one
[14:33] <alecu> sergiusens: but in any case, they are logged into .cache/unity-scope-click.log
[14:34] <mzanetti> jdstrand: oh... damn :D
[14:34] <alecu> sergiusens: so, don't worry about re-running it with that env, just send me that log.
[14:34] <mzanetti> jdstrand: will fix
[14:34] <jdstrand> mzanetti: I think it needs to preserve state on shutdown in some way for the last code displayed
[14:34] <mzanetti> haha. intersting.. you're the first one to notice. gives some real usage statistic
[14:34] <jdstrand> hehe
[14:34] <mzanetti> yeah, right. I forgot to store the counters
[14:35] <jdstrand> mzanetti: I'm not sure how you are planning on fixing it-- but it would be great if on start it didn't show the last code, that would be easier to understand (ie, how the google one sorks)
[14:35] <jdstrand> s/sorks/works/
[14:36] <jdstrand> mzanetti: otherwise you have to remember if you entered the one that is being displayed
[14:36] <mzanetti> jdstrand: yeah, I agree
[14:36] <jdstrand> cool
[14:36] <jdstrand> mzanetti: thanks! also, I noticed that it still had the networking policy group in the recent update
[14:36] <mzanetti> jdstrand: ok. will try to find the time tonight
[14:36] <jdstrand> mzanetti: thanks! :)
[14:36] <mzanetti> jdstrand: yes. and I also didn't add the camera policy yet
[14:37] <mzanetti> jdstrand: is it actually called "camera" ?
[14:38] <jdstrand> mzanetti: yes
[14:47] <systime> A question about file system layout: I flashed touch a few days ago, then proceeded to flash a new recovery and cyanogenmod over it.  Then today I flashed touch again.  I noticed that my wifi creds and ssh keys were still present from my initial touch flash.
[14:48] <ogra_> you need to flash with --no-backup to wipe the writable side (if you care to)
[14:48] <systime> ah, gotcha.. Thanks.
[15:08] <cpatrick08> I ran phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel-stable --no-backup on my grouper device and I get message Rom may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix? should I choose yes, no or go back
[15:08] <egonik66> Hi, Support Ubuntu Touch Nexus 7 2013 LTE 32GB ?
[15:09] <cpatrick08> egonik66: just nexus 7 2012 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Supported_devices_and_codenames
[15:11] <cpatrick08> I ran phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel-stable --no-backup on my grouper device and I get message Rom may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix? should I choose yes - disable flash recovery,  no or go back
[15:13] <egonik66> And when it will be supported?
[15:15] <cpatrick08> egonik66: not sure sorry
[15:30] <lool> mandel_: Pong, albeit on leave til Thursday included; perhaps I can help quickly though?
[15:31] <mandel_> lool, just asking if I can set the u-d-m 0.3 as released and set the version number to be 0.4 for the next cycle
[15:33] <lool> mandel_: You can bump versions at any time in bzr when you think it's useful; just merge a changelog update setting the changelog to UNRELEASED with 0.3+xyz as the version
[15:34] <lool> mandel_: The next cu2d run will reupload latest bzr rev to PPA and use the new version template from the changelog
[15:34] <mandel_> lool, ok, just checking, I did not want to screw up any of he current processes
[15:34] <mandel_> lool, I'll tak the current revno as 0.2 in case we need to work with it
[15:35] <lool> mandel_: Err no
[15:35] <sergiusens> lool, mandel_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I.27m_bumping_the_upstream_version.2C_what_should_I_do.3F
[15:35] <lool> mandel_: not sure what you mean with take the current revno
[15:35] <lool> mandel_: but 0.2 is lower than 0.2+xyz, and you should never go down in version numbers
[15:36] <mandel_> lool, no no, tagging the current revno in bzr as 0.2+what ever so that we can easily get back to it for backports etc..
[15:37] <lool> mandel_: It's not done automatically by cu2d?
[15:38] <lool> mandel_: indeed not
[15:38] <mandel_> lool, nope
[15:38] <mandel_> lool, it might be a nice feature to add to cu2d
[15:39] <lool> mandel_: Ah I know why it doesn't tag
[15:39] <lool> mandel_: Because there might have been upstream changes between the time the snapshot was taken and the time the changelog merge proposal was merged
[15:39] <lool> mandel_: So yeah, you might want some kind of upstream tag
[15:39] <mandel_> lool, yes, I do :)
[15:39] <lool> mandel_: Maybe check with landing team how other branches handle this
[15:40] <mandel_> will do to make sure everything works correctly
[15:40]  * lool &
[15:42] <dpm> hi cyphermox, around? I've got an issue whereby when I enable data on my phone (N4) it doesn't quite work. Even in areas with good connection it shows an icon for less than a sec (e.g. 3G) and then the icon disappears and shows no network. Am I hitting a known issue? Is there any way I can debug this?
[15:42] <lool> mandel_: Forgot to ask, I dont see an ubuntu-download-manager update in saucy-proposed/saucy-updates; perhaps you want to check that the debug logs are fixed in the next image, whether it's a saucy or a trusty one
[15:43] <mandel_> lool, will do, the code was merged.. maybe it was not released
[15:51] <vincentbosch> Anyone started on the Note 10.1 2014 (SM-P600) yet, now it has been rooted?
[15:51] <cpatrick08> I was wondering if I could multiboot android with the ubuntu-system images
[15:52] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu Touch Porting - Audio | http://askubuntu.com/q/363153
[15:55] <cpatrick08> I was wondering if I could multiboot android with the ubuntu-system images
[15:57] <tvoss> ogra_, ping
[15:57] <ogra_> yes
[15:59] <om26er> ogra_, your touch-image-stats seem broken for the latest entry
[15:59] <om26er> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20131021.1.changes is empty
[15:59] <ogra_> om26er, yep, known ... i'll fix it before end of my day
[16:00] <ogra_> (thats what you get for hardcoding release names in img and manifest files :P)
[16:01] <om26er> good then/
[16:02] <cyphermox> dpm: I don't know. Could you file a bug and attach /var/log/syslog and possibly the output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts
[16:03] <dpm> cyphermox, ok, will do, thanks
[16:11] <ttoine> ogra_, http://www.bonitasoft.org/blog/tutorial/bonita-platform-running-on-a-smartphone/
[16:11] <ttoine> ogra_, we did it: we ran a java application server on the galaxy nexus ;-)
[16:12] <ttoine> thank you for the support last friday, I credited you, so
[16:12] <cpatrick08> I was wondering if I could multiboot android with the ubuntu-system images
[16:13] <ogra_> ttoine, awesome !
[16:14] <ttoine> ogra_, just to let you know, the tomcat 6 package is brocken for Ubuntu Touch
[16:14] <ttoine> so we had to cheat a bit
[16:14] <ttoine>  but open jdk7 is ok
[16:15] <ttoine> ogra_, by the way, would you know if the desktop is displayed if I connect a hdmi cable ?
[16:15] <ttoine> or is it still a feature to come N?
[16:15] <ogra_> yeah
[16:15] <ogra_> thats far out
[16:15] <ttoine> ok
[16:15] <ttoine> ogra_, you have a personnal blog or something were I can put a link to you ?
[16:15] <ogra_> the next 6 months we'll stabilize and improve what we have ...
[16:16] <ttoine> or the simple credit is enough ?
[16:16] <ogra_> after thats done we'll go for convergence
[16:16] <ogra_> the simple credit is enough
[16:16] <ogra_> lol
[16:16] <ogra_> awesome idea to create sysvinit links for ssh
[16:17] <mfisch> ogra_: how can we setup manual gating on customzied builds now that we have a test suite?
[16:17] <ttoine> more easy than adb, then
[16:17] <ogra_> mfisch, manual gating ?
[16:18] <ogra_> mfisch, i assume thats only for your own packages ?
[16:18] <mfisch> ogra_: a human is still responsible for moving images from proposed to daily, right?
[16:18] <ogra_> yeah
[16:18] <mfisch> we have devel-customized and devel-proposed-customized
[16:18] <ogra_> ah, right
[16:19] <mfisch> eventually we want to mirror what is done for non-customized ones since we have a test suite now
[16:19] <ogra_> well, currently it is only possible to publish from one channel to the other if you have access to the cdimage server
[16:19] <ogra_> so you would need one member of the ubuntu-cdimage team to do it for you
[16:19] <ogra_> not sure if stgraber has planned an api or some such for this
[16:19] <ogra_> so that non cdimage people could do it
[16:20] <ogra_> mfisch, i think we'll keep the human involvement for this cycle for the official images still
[16:21] <mfisch> right now the image gets promoted when the daily gets promoted, so I guess we'd be a 2nd gating function
[16:21] <ogra_> thats only because i call both release scripts together
[16:21] <ogra_> cdimage and system-image use two different scripts
[16:22] <ogra_> they could theoretically run completely distinct
[16:22] <mfisch> will you be in Oakland?
[16:22] <ogra_> nope
[16:22] <stgraber> ogra_: nope, trusty-customized and trusty-proposed-customized are a bit special in that regard. They are both based on the non-customized channel and auto-publish new images when a new customization tarball appears on Jenkins
[16:23] <stgraber> so I guess what mfisch wants is for that automation be stopped on trusty-customized and move to manual publishing for that one (copy-image)
[16:23] <mfisch> stgraber: trusty-customized is the daily image (non-proposed) + the latest bundle?
[16:23] <stgraber> though that means going through ubuntu-cdimage every time
[16:23] <stgraber> mfisch: correct
[16:23] <mfisch> stgraber: we'll still have -proposed
[16:23] <mfisch> stgraber: lets discuss more in Oakland if you'll be there, this is not urgent
[16:23] <mfisch> just on my radar today
[16:24] <stgraber> mfisch: I won't be there
[16:24] <mfisch> hah, ok
[16:24] <mfisch> less beers for me to buy then ;)
[16:24] <stgraber> ;)
[16:24] <Laney> I'll have them
[16:25] <mfisch> stgraber: we would likely only move to the daily image 1-2x a week at most, keep it stable for demos
[16:26] <mfisch> Laney: sure thing, there's a great belgian beer place right by the hotel
[16:26] <Laney> :P
[16:27] <Laney> Was joking, however if you're referring to the Trappist then yes we must make a trip there
[16:27] <mfisch> I just finished making a Belgian pale myself, but the real belgians do it much better than me
[16:38] <AskUbuntu> Restoring Android when nothing launches | http://askubuntu.com/q/363183
[16:43] <tvoss> Saviq, grabbing dinner, then I will iterate https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/unity-mir/less-aggressive-scores/+merge/191440
[17:24] <AskUbuntu> permanently disable bluetooth | http://askubuntu.com/q/363204
[17:38] <mbnoimi> Does ubuntu touch supports same applications of usual desktop apps?
[17:39] <ogra_> no
[17:39] <winb> because of xmir ?
[17:40] <popey> the phone doesn't ship xmir
[17:41] <t1mp> mbnoimi: it would not be a good idea to support the usual desktop apps that were designed on a large screen with a mouse and keyboard
[17:41] <t1mp> s/on/for
[17:42] <mbnoimi> t1mp: I just asking. I'm Qt developer so I wonder if my Qt desktop apps will run directly on Ubunut touch
[17:44] <t1mp> mbnoimi: qt should work, but I don't know if it is possible to use QtWidgets.
[17:44] <t1mp> mbnoimi: I'd recommend Qt5 with QML :)
[17:46] <dobey> qml uses qt widgets
[17:47] <dobey> so yes, you can write C++ apps with Qt to work on the phone. but you need to design the UI a bit differently and such, than you would for a typical mouse/keyboard system
[17:49] <mbnoimi> t1mp: I'm using Qt5 Widgets
[17:54] <deimusmeister> hello all
[18:01] <deimusmeister> when trying to resotre the androing on nexus 4, it fails with following message
[18:01] <deimusmeister> archive does not contain boot.sig
[18:02] <deimusmeister> archive does not contain recovery.sig
[18:02] <melvster> i havent yet worked out how to get qtcreator apps onto the phone ... the docs say to ssh, but you dont seem to be able to do that now, and then hit ctrl+12 which im not sure what that does, but doesnt work over adb
[18:02] <alecjw> Hi there, I've installed ubuntu touch on my gnex and am trying to revert to cyanogenmod. Is it possible to enable adb in ubuntu touch? Else, how can i transfer the zipfile image to the phone?
[18:02] <deimusmeister> failed to allocate XXXXXXX bytes
[18:02] <deimusmeister> error : update package missing system.img
[18:03] <Fnsnt> hi
[18:11] <alecjw> edit: think i've got it now
[18:16] <ryukafalz_> I haven't installed the release on my nexus 7 yet, but does it now have a software center-ish thing?
[18:24] <Red_> Hello, can someone help me dealing with a restoring issue?
[18:25] <systime> deimusmeister: I think you'll need to flash the boot, system, and recovery img's separately via fastboot
[18:31] <jemy> Anyone updated to the 21.10-build yet? For me the command as usal does not work anymore. (It gives me: Already retrieved. Nothing to do)
[18:32] <okan> hi
[18:32] <jemy> The command I used:     phablet-flash ubuntu-system
[18:32] <okan> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install is using galaxy s3 ?
[18:38] <Red_> Guys, my nexus does not boot. It stalls at Googles loading screen
[18:39] <Red_> this is after i tried ubuntu touch
[18:41] <Red_> help?
[18:42] <AskUbuntu> Restoring android after ubuntu touch fails | http://askubuntu.com/q/363254
[18:43] <jemy> Red_, Did Ubuntu Touch boot once?
[18:43] <Fnsnt> How can i Install the newest Ubuntu Touch Version on my Nexus 4 without having ubuntu PC?
[18:44] <Fnsnt> can anyone help me?
[18:44] <Red_> jemy, yes!
[18:44] <systime> Fnsnt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Download_.26_Installation
[18:45] <Fnsnt> thx alot!
[18:45] <jemy> Is it nexus 4?
[18:46] <Red_> a nexus 7
[18:50] <Fnsnt> what does adb mean in the description?
[18:51] <Fnsnt> i think it means android debugging or sth like this but what do i have to do there
[18:52] <t1mp> Fnsnt: you are right, adb is android debug bridge.
[18:52] <t1mp> Fnsnt: but 'adb' is the command that you need to run.
[18:52] <Fnsnt> where do i need to run it?
[18:52] <t1mp> Fnsnt: so you must have it installed and you  need to execute the commands exactly as written there
[18:52] <Fnsnt> cuz it is said to be manally
[18:52] <Fnsnt> where to execute the commands?
[18:53] <t1mp> Fnsnt: did you execute this part of step one? sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[18:53] <t1mp> Fnsnt: then you should have the adb command.
[18:53] <t1mp> Fnsnt: I think it doesn't matter from where to execute it.
[18:53] <t1mp> Fnsnt: you run it on your desktop, and it will connect to your device and execute the commands you give it.
[18:54] <t1mp> Fnsnt: you can execute the commands from your homedir
[18:54] <Fnsnt> on windows?
[18:55] <t1mp> Fnsnt: ah the manual is for Ubuntu. I don't know about Windows.
[18:55] <Fnsnt> oh got it
[18:55] <kgunn> ricmm: can you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~kgunn72/platform-api/bump-mir-dep16/+merge/191552
[18:55] <rbelem> Fnsnt, install the android sdk if you r not running ubuntu http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[18:55] <t1mp> Fnsnt: sorry for the confusion
[18:55] <melvster> is ssh to device discouraged right now?
[18:55] <Fnsnt> no problem
[18:55] <kgunn> i realized that didrocks wanted me to shepherd their merge in
[18:56] <rbelem> Fnsnt, with that you will get adb and fastboot
[18:56] <Fnsnt> yeah just downloaded
[18:57] <t1mp> Fnsnt: are you trying to install it from an ubuntu desktop? or windows?
[18:57] <Fnsnt> windows
[18:57] <t1mp> Fnsnt: I guess that is possible, but I never did it so I cannot help you.
[18:57] <Fnsnt> i downloaded Minimal ADB and Fastboot
[18:58] <Fnsnt> from chipp
[18:58] <Fnsnt> chip
[18:58] <Fnsnt> i think this will work
[18:58] <systime> Fnsnt: You should be able to run "adb" and "fastboot" from the windows command line
[19:00] <kgunn> mterry: would you mind approving https://code.launchpad.net/~kgunn72/unity-system-compositor/bump-mir-dep16
[19:01] <mterry> kgunn, looking
[19:02] <kgunn> mterry: just sometime before eod
[19:02] <kgunn> mterry: just to get it staged
[19:02] <mterry> kgunn, approved, I assume you will top-approve when you want it all to land?
[19:03] <kgunn> mterry: precisely...i got 2 other mp's in unity-mir & platform-api to get sorted first
[19:03] <mterry> kgunn, I was looking at u-s-c earlier today, and it looked like it might need some code changes to match mir trunk...  I don't suppose you've test built it?
[19:06] <kgunn> mterry: uh....nope
[19:07] <kgunn> mterry: just to be sure....lp:mir no longer pointing to mir-team/mir/trunk
[19:07] <kgunn> mterry: now points to ~mir-team/mir/trusty
[19:08] <kgunn> mterry: not that that helps address any update needs....but not sure if bzr is smart enough
[19:08] <kgunn> if you've been working on a previously branched code base
[19:17] <mterry> kgunn, I'll try again
[19:26] <x220t_user> hello, im using ubuntu 13.10 server with xfce on my lenovo 220 tablet. is it possible to use touch/core apps without installing unity?
[19:28] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, yes indeed, you just need the sdk runtime
[19:29] <x220t_user> pmcgowan, do you mean the qt environment?
[19:29] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, yes plus the ui-toolkit, apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-libs should do it
[19:30] <pmcgowan> that will bring in qt5
[19:30] <x220t_user> okay, i'll give it a try, mom
[19:33] <Fnsnt> which cdimage do i have to use for my nexus 4 on this site? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/saucy/daily-preinstalled/20131018/
[19:33] <Fnsnt> the mako images?
[19:37] <mterry> kgunn, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-system-compositor/mir-fixes/+merge/192042 should supercede your branch
[19:37] <mterry> kgunn, it bumps required Mir, along with build fixes
[19:37] <kgunn> mterry: ok...i can update my branch
[19:38] <x220t_user> pmcgowan, just installed sdk runtime and ubuntu touch-collection via ppa, tried to run touch-minesweeper, but no luck. the command to run was qmlscene /usr/share/minesweeper-touch/minesweeper.qml
[19:38] <kgunn> mterry: oh...wait so you bumped
[19:38] <x220t_user> let me take a closer look
[19:39] <mterry> kgunn, yeah, we shouldn't need your branch if mine lands
[19:39] <kgunn> mterry: got it
[19:39] <mterry> kgunn, and yours shouldn't land without the build fixes anyway
[19:39] <systime> Fnsnt: The four that have mako in the name, and this one: saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip
[19:42] <Fnsnt> thx!
[19:43] <x220t_user> pmcgowan, it tells me: qmlscene: could not find a Qt installation of '' - according to askubuntu.com it seems, that i have no Ubuntu Toolkit components. Are these a part of ubuntu-sdk-libs?
[19:44] <pmcgowan> hmm
[19:45] <x220t_user> and: by accessing the ubuntu toolkit 0.1 on developer.ubuntu.com im getting server error..
[19:46] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, you should have this installed qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin
[19:47] <x220t_user> im rigth on that way :)
[19:49] <x220t_user> pmcgowan: installed the whole ubuntu-ui-toolkit, that includes the qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin, still no luck
[19:50] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, this may be a clue http://askubuntu.com/questions/342751/qt-code-for-u-touch-returns-qmlscene-cannot-find-qt-installation-of
[19:50] <pmcgowan> seems the config is somehow not correct
[19:56] <x220t_user> pmcgowan, that worked. so it seems i have three different "versions" of qt: qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu, qt5, 5. By passing the right version over the arg, makes the app running.
[19:57] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, that should have just worked, can you log a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/
[19:58] <lilix> Hello all I need some help for the installation of ubuntu touch on my Nexus 4
[19:59] <x220t_user> pmcgowan, is there the way to set the default qt version?
[19:59] <lilix> when I install with phablet-flash tool the phone reboot and give me an error "can't open /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command
[20:00] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, I am not sure how to fix it up, if you check here tomorrow ping Mirv and he can tell us
[20:01] <lilix> nobody know how to fix that here ?
[20:02] <melvster> lilix: I think that should be a warning not an error
[20:02] <x220t_user> kk, i'll send a bug report and  for the first time i'll use the ugly workaround by adding the right qt arg for every app command in menu..
[20:02] <melvster> see: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/09/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt
[20:02] <sergiusens> lilix, pmcgowan are you looking for QT_SELECT=qt5 ?
[20:03] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, lilix has a different issue
[20:03] <sergiusens> lilix, sorry
[20:03] <sergiusens> x220t_user, ^^
[20:03] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, but thats not generally set is it?
[20:03] <sergiusens> lilix, how are you flashing?
[20:03] <lilix> with the official tutorial on ubuntu.com
[20:03] <melvster> lilix: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/phablet-tools/+bug/1241568
[20:04] <lilix> I will join the bug report right now^
[20:05] <melvster> lol even stuart had that bug so i guess it'll get fixed soon :)
[20:05] <x220t_user> sergiusens: yay! exporting QT_SELECT did the job
[20:05] <sergiusens> stgraber, I'm going to be removing the can't find ubuntu_commands message from the android ui, seems to be confusing people
[20:05] <sergiusens> x220t_user, great
[20:05] <sergiusens> stgraber, do you have any objections?
[20:06] <sergiusens> we can log it in the recovery logs instead
[20:06] <x220t_user> so does that seems to be a bug, that QT_SELECT var ist by default set to ''?
[20:06] <x220t_user> *is
[20:06] <sergiusens> x220t_user, it's set by default to qt5 for the phablet user
[20:07] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, this is on desktop so its not set at all
[20:07] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, do we need to have it set?
[20:07] <sergiusens> pmcgowan, oh, desktop... well that may affect the qt4 apps
[20:07] <x220t_user> sergiusens, i have ubuntu server + naked xfce4 on it
[20:07] <sergiusens> pmcgowan, x220t_user I'm guessing this is a case where you would need to wrap it
[20:08] <pmcgowan> I have desktop and its not set either, not sure why we need it
[20:08] <sergiusens> pmcgowan, it selects if you would use qt4 or qt5; remember that qmlscene is a dev tool
[20:09] <x220t_user> pmcgowan, well it is useful for convertible laptops like lenovos x22* Tablet or some HP devices a.s.o.
[20:09] <stgraber> sergiusens: I'm fine with removing it
[20:09] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, with it not set it works fine here
[20:09] <pmcgowan> x220t_user, agreed
[20:10] <sergiusens> pmcgowan, you might have qt5 dev packages installed
[20:10] <pmcgowan> likely I do
[20:18] <lilix> sergiusens just a question my problem it's just a warning and I need to waite several time to finish the installation or it is not possible for me to install ubuntu touch on my phone(Nexus 4)?
[20:34] <szymon_w> Are new builds for UT based on 14.04 yet ?
[20:56] <w-flo> szymon_w, yes, this is a trusty bild apparently: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/20131021.1/
[20:58] <szymon_w> w-flo, thanks
[23:19] <pandeiro> what js runtime does ubuntu touch use?
[23:20] <bef0rd> I'm guessing Qt's
[23:23] <pandeiro> and can an ubuntu-touch device's filesystem be mounted on a linux computer over USB?


[00:20] <sgrover> help?  Moved my drive from an old box to a new desktop.  Boots up rus fine.  Except screen resolution.  Stuck at 1280x1024 on a 24" monitor that supports 1920x1080.
[00:21] <miglo> what is the best procedure to upgrade from Karmic Koala to the latest version of Kubuntu?
[00:21] <sgrover> old system had nvidia.  new system is integrated intel video.  Connecting via SVGA and a DVI adapater (no SVGA on desktop, and no DVI cable at the moment)
[00:22] <miglo> shall I download the latest image and make a new installation?
[00:23] <sgrover> miglo: you can upgrade in place
[00:23] <sgrover> Not sure if Karmic had the nice graphical prompts sorted out yet or not.  But you can drop to command line and do a dist-upgrade.
[00:24] <sgrover> (i'm looking for the command for you...)
[00:24] <Unit193> miglo: You're on 9.10, you would have to 9.10 > 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 or you could use a cd and upgrade
[00:24] <Unit193> dist-upgrade isn't it
[00:25] <khindenburg> After my upgrade to KDE 4.6.5, konsole won't start - stays it is built w/ wrong Qt version
[00:25] <miglo> doing multiple upgrade steps would take longer than a complete installation, maybe
[00:26] <miglo> what is the best or fastest solution in my case?
[00:27] <bazhang> miglo, fastest is make back ups and fresh install.
[00:27] <bazhang> miglo, do you have a separate /home?
[00:28] <miglo> bazhang: yes, I have
[00:29] <bazhang> miglo, then set the installer to leave /home alone and fresh install
[00:30] <almigi2> khindenburg: how long ago did you do the upgrade?  if you update apt, does it show any thing else that needs to be updated?
[00:30] <miglo> bazhang: I have another partition with some data on it. should also be no problem, I guess. Is ext4 still a good choice?
[00:31] <khindenburg> almigi2: I did the full update a few hours ago; I just checked again and nothing to upgrade
[00:31] <bazhang> miglo, yes ext4 is a very good choice
[00:31] <almigi2> khindenburg: odd my best guess would be that you did an upgrade before all the files were ready....
[00:32] <khindenburg> Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702
[00:33] <miglo> ok, will download kubuntu now - thanks for help
[00:33] <bazhang> np
[00:33] <almigi2> hmmm... I dunno. I've only been using kubuntu for a an hour or so... as soon as I installed it, I did the update and it worked.... sorry I don't know what else it could be
[00:35] <mranima> anyone experiencing sudden freezes? when using chromium or any other browsers?
[00:37] <yofel> khindenburg: while I'm starting my natty VM, what's the version of libqtcore4 for example?
[00:37] <miglo> selected the 64bit version of kubuntu
[00:39] <jordan_> hey does anyone know how to put ringtones on a iphone 4?
[00:41] <vietred> hi, I'm using Kubuntu natty, when I press Ctrl + Alt + F1-6, I can only see a "_". Can anyone help me?
[00:42] <OerHeks> vietred, wait 2-3 sec after pressing ctrl alt F2
[00:42] <OerHeks> and F7 for returning to this gui
[00:43] <miglo> vietred, is there no prompt?
[00:43] <yofel> there can be no prompt if the system is stuck on boot and he's trying to switch to the tty's in that condition
[00:43] <yofel> soo... why are you trying to get to them?
[00:45] <vietred> well, I wait about 10 secs but nothing happen
[00:46] <vietred> yofel: my system is OK, I just want to learn about tty :D
[00:46] <yofel> hm, then the login prompts *should* be there :/
[00:48] <vietred> what files should I check to see if tty is disable?
[00:50] <yofel> shouldn't be disabled unless you messed with runlevels
[00:50] <yofel> try 'sudo service tty2 start' and see if F2 has a login prompt now
[00:50] <yofel> /var/log/syslog *might* have something
[00:51] <vietred> yofel: this is what I got: Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.
[00:52] <yofel> I'm clueless then :/
[00:53] <miglo> hm, shouldn't there be a process like getty if a tty is available?
[00:54] <yofel> there should, 6 of them
[00:54] <miglo> so vietred could check the process table
[00:54] <vietred> yofel: me too :(, I haven't experience anything like this before
[00:54] <yofel> check for the getty processes as miglo said
[00:55] <vietred> use top?
[00:55] <yofel> top or ps
[00:55] <yofel> ps -e
[00:56] <vietred> getty is not in process table
[00:58] <vietred> so I have to start getty?
[00:59] <yofel> hm, when I restart tty2 here I don't get a warning, but I don't know why it would complain about a fake initctl o.O
[01:00] <yofel> unless  you messed with init?
[01:01] <vietred> I did a fresh install of kubuntu a month ago, and I haven't mess with it (yet)
[01:01] <yofel> ok
[01:06] <yofel> vietred: what does this give you? dpkg -S $(which initctl)
[01:07] <vietred> upstart: /sbin/initctl
[01:09] <yofel> vietred: and 'ls -l /sbin/initctl' ?
[01:10] <vietred> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 2011-06-16 11:57 /sbin/initctl
[01:11] <yofel> ok, that's far too small, what's in there?
[01:11] <yofel> or got a /sbin/initctl.real or so ?
[01:12] <khindenburg> yofel: 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6.1
[01:13] <vietred> err, I only got 1 line
[01:13] <yofel> that is?
[01:14] <vietred> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 84 2011-06-16 11:57 /sbin/initctl
[01:14] <yofel> vietred: no, can you open that file in an editor and check what's in it?
[01:14] <yofel> I would expect it's a script of some sort
[01:14] <vietred> ok
[01:15] <vietred> #!/bin/sh
[01:15] <vietred> echo 1>&2
[01:15] <vietred> echo 'Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing.' 1>&2
[01:15] <vietred> exit 0
[01:15] <FloodBotK1> vietred: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <yofel> where did that come from o.O
[01:16] <yofel> vietred: sudo apt-get install --reinstall upstart
[01:16] <vietred> looks like that script does only 1 thing :-S
[01:17] <vietred> yofel: don't ask me, I'm what-the-helling myself :))
[01:17] <vietred> install done
[01:18] <yofel> khindenburg: same here, but konsole works fine (konsole 2.6.4 from 4.6.5), I'm tired so can't help you more, but feel free to file a bug for now https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug
[01:18] <yofel> vietred: try to restart tty2 again
[01:18] <khindenburg> yofel: ok, np - a reinstall didn't work
[01:19] <yofel> khindenburg: just asking, but you don't have any LD_LIBRARY_PATH or so set?
[01:20] <vietred> yofel: tty2 start/running, process 2137
[01:20] <vietred> Can I press ctrl + alt + F2 now?
[01:20] <yofel> yep, should work now
[01:21] <vietred> yes, it works :D
[01:21] <vietred> thank you :D
[01:21] <yofel> homework: find out how you managed to mess up init :P
[01:21] <yofel> although that script is usually something used to disable services in a chroot
[01:22] <vietred> haha
[01:26]  * yofel is off to bed, good night
[01:29] <vietred> good night yofel (it's morning here)
[01:45] <sri13> Hi all
[01:45] <sri13> How can I update to latest kde version in kubuntu ?
[01:57] <lcb> sri13: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (if not upgradeable that's because is not supported yet)
[01:59] <sri13> lcb: Thanks :)
[01:59] <lcb> ;)
[02:07] <jordan_> hey does anyone know how to put ringtones on a iphone 4?
[02:17] <jordan_> maybe someone can answer another question i have. I have a program that does have a icon "doesnt have one low development" how do i add one?
[02:17] <jordan_> doesnt*
[02:18] <jordan_> im talking about adding a menu icon the top left one on the title bar
[04:34] <atomicfusion> how can i disable screen locking on hibernate, but not on sleep?
[04:52] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, anybody know a Freenode channel to talk about cars & car problems? lol
[04:56] <LINKSWORD2> Ok, guess not.... Another problem: My volume controls aren't working, and my volume mixer icon is missing....
[05:01] <bdh> adding a bg
[05:02] <bdh> linksword try adding pavucontrol it worked for me
[05:09] <atomicfusion> what is run when "sleep" or "hibernate" is pressed in the menu?
[05:51] <uofm49426> question is kubuntu 11.04 having the same problem off stalling that xubuntu and ubuntu is having
[05:54] <uofm49426> both xubuntu and ubuntu 11.04 stalls after sometime in screensavers they tell everyone just go to a blank screan but thats not a fix
[05:58] <preecher> uofm49426 had the same probs with xubu---but ive had no probs with anythin on kubuntu & on my end it runs faster than ubu unity---so im hooked on the blue
[06:00] <uofm49426> i can use kde use to mintkde
[06:02] <uofm49426> when i leave for 15 minute and return to a stalled computer well that sucked lol
[06:03] <uofm49426> had the problem on a x41 thinkpad with a intel 915
[06:03] <uofm49426> was just thinking its a intel problem
[06:04] <uofm49426> then my computer with nv 330 gt amd x2 be-2400 and 2 gb of ram
[06:05] <uofm49426> i was like ok its a big problem  and not just the one computer
[06:05] <preecher> one way i kept it from freezing on my end was only using the ant with a spotlight screensaver and setting it not to change savers or random
[06:06] <preecher> but again that wasnt a fix
[06:08] <uofm49426> no problem with 10:10 work perfect if i get the same with kde im just staying at 10.10 till the next build
[06:09] <preecher> well im on kubuntu 11.04 & have it on 2 thinkpads & a acer netbook and have had zero problems
[06:09] <uofm49426> i dont like the new gnome 3 look anyways
[06:10] <uofm49426> i know you can go to a classic look
[06:11] <uofm49426> but i cant use the cloudos looking gnome
[06:12] <preecher> i used gnome- initially i didnt like unity but was warming to it- tried kubuntu & the noticed increase in speed & just plain out good looks swayed me
[06:14] <preecher> i dont know how the devs did it--i always heard kde was a resource hog but in all my instances ive seen the opposite at least compared to the few distros ive used
[06:15] <uofm49426> fedora is alright to but they lack software in repos
[06:17] <uofm49426> how does buntu protect the users password since its also the root password
[06:18] <uofm49426> and a user pass is so much easier to hack
[06:19] <atomicfusion> uofm49426: root doesnt usually have a password, thats what sudo is for
[06:19] <uofm49426> my brother wants to know hes a debian writer
[06:20] <uofm49426> he was telling me how easy it is to get a sudo password
[06:21] <atomicfusion> as far as i know, the only ways to get a "sudo" password would eb keylogging it, or replacing sudo with another program
[06:23] <tsimpson> uofm49426: a user password is no easier to get than a root password
[06:24] <tsimpson> it's actually harder, as you _need_ to know the user name to "crack" the password, and when the only well-known one (root) is disabled, your chances are reduced greatly
[06:50] <LINKSWORD2> Hey all.
[06:53] <LINKSWORD2> Can I get Kubuntu, KDE or Knotify to tell mw if Caps Lock, Scroll Lock or Num Lock are on???
[06:57] <LINKSWORD2> !num lock
[06:57] <LINKSWORD2> !ubottu: numlock
[06:57] <LINKSWORD2> ... Also not working.
[07:00] <LINKSWORD2> Oy! Is nobody at all here awake???
[07:01] <atomicfusion> im here, i just cant really help you, sorry
[07:06] <LINKSWORD2> Know anybody that can? lol
[07:07] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: plasma-widget-kbstate
[07:07] <tsimpson> !info plasma-widget-kbstate
[07:08] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: Is it part of Kubuntu by default, or do I need to install it?
[07:09] <tsimpson> it's in universe, so not installed by default
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> Mkay...
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> So I need to install it. How?
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> sudo apt-get install .... ???
[07:11] <tsimpson> or with the package manager, yes
[07:11] <TanteInge> Hi Ich search MP3Players for Shoutcast Streaming (IDJC)?
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> Does it pop up a message on Knotify?
[07:12] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: it's a plasma widget, so put in on the panel
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> On the main toolbar? :/
[07:13] <tsimpson> where ever you want it
[07:13] <tsimpson> it's a widget, it can be on the panel or on the desktop, whatever you want
[07:13] <LINKSWORD2> I'm something of a minimalist. I don't like icons on the desktop...
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: Do you know of anything else that can notify me, without having to add it to a toolbar?
[07:18] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: System Settings -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys
[07:23] <chaitu> Greetings All. Am kinda new to linux and kubuntu and wondering, am I the only one who has these awkward fonts on browsers?
[07:23] <chaitu> or is this the way linux is designed...if yes,we have some work to do :)
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> Take a screencap.
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> !screenshots
[07:24] <chaitu> oh cool. Thanks..give me a minute please
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> I'll do what I can to help.
[07:25] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: Neither the widget nor the control panel settings are creating a notification... And I have toggled the Caps Lock and Num Lock to test it.
[07:26] <nir> hello everyone
[07:26] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: I tested, works fine. did you edit the notifications?
[07:27] <nir> guys how playes assault cube/??
[07:28] <chaitu> here it goes : http://imagebin.org/162403
[07:28] <LINKSWORD2> tsimpson: I'm not sure what's going on....
[07:28] <LINKSWORD2> If you need to, I can open the remote desktop tie-in...
[07:31] <chaitu> LINKSWORD2:Do you think you can help me?
[07:31] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: System Settings -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys, check the "Use KDE's system notification mechanism whenever a modifier or locking key changes its state" option, click the "Configure Notifications..." button, check the "Show a message in a popup" for "A lock key has been deactivated" and "A lock key has been activated"
[07:31] <LINKSWORD2> Just a quick moment, chaitu.
[07:31] <chaitu> cool thanks.
[07:33] <LINKSWORD2> Thanks, tsimpson. Looks like it works now.
[07:33] <LINKSWORD2> All right, chaitu. I'm taking a look at your screenshot now.
[07:34] <chaitu> k
[07:35] <chaitu> I told you guys my fonts are scary
[07:36] <chaitu> scared you LINKSWORD2? ;)
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> That's bizarre... I keep getting disconnected... Randomly...
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> lol @ chaitu
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> I was about to say that everything looks normal from my end, as I look at your screenshot.
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> O_o Whoa...
[07:37] <LINKSWORD2> It appears you have some sort of Arabic or variant language font...
[07:37] <chaitu> let me give you its name
[07:37] <LINKSWORD2> I assume you are an English user...
[07:38] <chaitu> Yes
[07:38] <LINKSWORD2> Ok.
[07:39] <LINKSWORD2> Does it appear on other windows, outside of your internet browsers?
[07:39] <chaitu> http://imagebin.org/162405
[07:39] <chaitu> yes all browsers look the same.
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> OK.
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> You said you're new to Kubuntu.
[07:41] <LINKSWORD2> Have you checked the language settings?
[07:41] <chaitu> you mean in chrome? or in kubuntu?
[07:42] <LINKSWORD2> Alt + F1 opens the Launch menu in Kubuntu.
[07:42] <LINKSWORD2> From there, look for a crossed hammer and wrench.... That will be your System Settings.
[07:43] <LINKSWORD2> In there, a blue flag will be labeled Locale.
[07:43] <LINKSWORD2> Hopefully, your problem will be in there, and easily changed...
[07:43] <chaitu> well it has India in there. However all other settings are looking just fine
[07:44] <chaitu> I read this has something to do with xfonts or something
[07:44] <LINKSWORD2> Go ahead and change it. I assume you're in the continental USA?
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> A lot of computer systems, not just Kubuntu can be picky, if not anal about which regional settings you choose.
[07:45] <chaitu> Nope. Am in India
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> O_o?
[07:45] <chaitu> :)
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> Heh...
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> All right... :/
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> Well, as I was saying, a lot of computer systems can be picky about which regional settings you choose.
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> Try changing them to something you know you can understand. (Example being US English.)
[07:47] <chaitu> umnn doing that
[07:48] <LINKSWORD2> I'm searching for other options, in case that doesn't solve the problem.
[07:49] <chaitu> Thanks a ton
[07:49] <LINKSWORD2> chaitu: For what I can see of your background image, it's really pretty. :)
[07:50] <chaitu> hehe thanks..am still figuring out how to have this system setup..
[07:51] <chaitu> would you be kind enough to upload your browser fonts once? just wanna see if it looks like windows for you guys
[07:51] <LINKSWORD2> I only have the KDE defaults.
[07:51] <LINKSWORD2> *Kubuntu* defaults.
[07:52] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry, I get the Kubuntu OS and the KDE Plasma engine mixed up, a bit.
[07:52] <chaitu> so it just shows up as normal site on windows for you? no difference in fonts at all?
[07:53] <tsimpson> chaitu: you should probably start by changing your encoding to UTF-8, rather than ISO-8859-1
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> Aha... I didn't even think about character encoding. :/
[07:55] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[07:55] <chaitu> ok cool.let me do that tsimpson . thanks
[07:56] <chaitu> I have utf 16LE
[07:56] <LINKSWORD2> Do you not have UTF-8?>
[07:56] <tsimpson> most web servers don't like 16 or 32
[07:57] <chaitu> but i must say it did improve
[07:57] <chaitu> umnn can I install utf 8?
[07:57] <tsimpson> you shouldn't have to no, it's the first option for me
[07:58] <LINKSWORD2> It is also the same for me.
[07:59] <chaitu> oh well..am sorry. yes i have it in there
[08:00] <LINKSWORD2> Well, let's hit the UTF-8 and see if Google Chrome cooperates...
[08:01] <chaitu> whats the standard font you guys use? I have it as times new roman
[08:01] <LINKSWORD2> I do not think Times New Roman is available outside of Windows.
[08:01] <LINKSWORD2> It is a copyrighted font.
[08:02] <chaitu> you can install xfonts or something..
[08:02] <chaitu> that gives you that option..
[08:02] <LINKSWORD2> The equivalent font is Nimbus Roman No9.
[08:03]  * tsimpson uses -> http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimpson/images/snapshot3.png
[08:03] <LINKSWORD2> Thankfully, where there is a will, there is a way....
[08:03] <tsimpson> but I often have my monitor quite far from my face, in a vain attempt to stop by eyes from getting worse
[08:04] <LINKSWORD2> Under the Bonnet? You're obviously set to British English. :D
[08:04] <chaitu> does it come close to windows style browsing?
[08:05] <LINKSWORD2> I feel like I want to slap the next person that mentions Windows.
[08:05] <tsimpson> I'm not sure what "windows style browsing" is really
[08:05] <chaitu> I mean the clarity and rendering
[08:05] <tsimpson> chrome basically looks/feels/acts the same on all platforms, as does firefox
[08:05] <LINKSWORD2> Microsoft panders its victims with unstable, DOS-based crap that blue-screens, locks up, and crashes a million times over...
[08:06] <tsimpson> that's probably it's major "selling point"
[08:06]  * LINKSWORD2 agrees with tsimpson
[08:07] <chaitu> tsimpson: I dont think it looks the same on linux and windows. I can clearly see the difference the way it shows up sites on windows and linux
[08:08] <chaitu> font is what am talking about.
[08:08] <tsimpson> you can change fonts, that's up to you
[08:08] <LINKSWORD2> *facepalm*
[08:08] <chaitu> yes. but changing fonts wouldnt give you the same experience.
[08:08] <LINKSWORD2> You know WHY Microsoft crap is so expensive?
[08:08] <tsimpson> also, some websites are poorly written and only designed to work with IE, rather than using the multitude of web standards out there
[08:09] <chaitu> am not rallying for windows here..just saying
[08:09] <LINKSWORD2> There's over 400 copyrights cited, just in the initial base code...
[08:09] <chaitu> know any site which is written for all platforms? would love to see
[08:09] <tsimpson> LINKSWORD2: relax, it's not worth getting high blood-pressure over :)
[08:10] <LINKSWORD2> *Lights my old Windows 95 floppys on fire.*
[08:10] <chaitu> LINKSWORD2: heh I realise that and am not saying anything for windows here..I just want the sites to look better on this OS :)
[08:10] <tsimpson> chaitu: lots are, like google. but you have to decide which fonts you want (if you aren't happy with the default)
[08:10] <chaitu> ah..makes sense
[08:10] <tsimpson> customize it to where _you_ are happy with the look
[08:11] <LINKSWORD2> chaitu: There are many similarities and many differences between each OS/ platform.
[08:11] <tsimpson> the good news is that many sites are getting better, as FF (and Chrome) become more adopted in windows they need to use real standards
[08:12] <tsimpson> ... and various mobile platforms
[08:12] <LINKSWORD2> As you go along, I'm sure you'll find many of those similarities and differences.
[08:12] <LINKSWORD2> It's up to you to customize for the look, feel, and performance that you want.
[08:13] <chaitu> I understand..
[08:13] <LINKSWORD2> For myself, for example.... I have a very resource-light computer system....
[08:13] <LINKSWORD2> One outdated enough that anything made after Windows 2000/ME is sluggish on it, at best...
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> So... I scrapped Microsoft's crap-fest and put Kubuntu on it instead.
[08:14] <LINKSWORD2> .... And then I customized it, in many ways, to look like an Apple OSX platform.
[08:15] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe. :D That's one thing I love about Linux systems. HIGHLY customizable.
[08:21] <LINKSWORD2> Well.... I'm signing off.
[09:16] <dahalla> hi guys, just a quick question i couldn't answer with google: can i use the ubuntu software center on kubuntu?
[09:17] <tsimpson> yes
[09:17] <dahalla> thanks :)
[11:56] <phoenixlzx> http://phoenixlzx.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/71/
[12:00] <lcb> that's really nasty
[12:04] <ben__> hi
[12:27] <AlexZion> hi guys ,yesterday I experimented a strange behaviorof my Kubuntu 11.04,  and trying again is the same , so probablly ia kind of bug i guess...., let me explain better
[12:29] <Tm_T> phoenixlzx: please keep this channel for Kubuntu support, thanks
[12:30] <AlexZion> normally when I login in my system, after everything is loaded, I connect my wireless which open up a kwalle windows, because the wireless password is indie a wallet ....., but if I do it too early it doesn't apper , and after that , the only way to connect the wireless is to restart the system and wait until everything is loaded , it si normal ... ?  Tm_T, and after that it doesn't appear anymore , since I restart the system ....
[12:32] <Tm_T> AlexZion: hmmm, what happens if you manually launch kwalletmanager?
[12:32] <phoenixlzx> Tm_T: may be you are right because it is kubuntu support channel.but how can you bear the behavior like that?is that something a human should do??
[12:33] <Tm_T> phoenixlzx: please, this channel is for Kubuntu support and only for that, you can continue the discussion with me in #kubuntu-offtopic for example
[12:34] <phoenixlzx> Tm_T: ok,i will post the message in #kubuntu-offtopic.thanks for remind
[12:37] <AlexZion> Tm_T:  how should I do it !?! I mean open kwallet related to the connection ...., or opening the wallet is just enough ?
[12:38] <Tm_T> AlexZion: press alt+F2 and enter "kwalletmanager" without quotes, a wallet icon should appear to your systray if it runs
[12:38] <Tm_T> AlexZion: this is only to determine if the wallet system launches at all after the failure (:
[12:39] <AlexZion> yes I know how to open it .... :), ok so I'll try ..., I'll be back in few minutes ..... ;)
[12:46] <AlexZion> mhhhh, really strange... Tm_T , now I tried to connect it immediatelly when the desktop apper and it worked ...., so I guess the problem is if I try to connect while some other application is launching ......, usually at startup I have skype, amarok, akregator, nothing else...., so probablly  something strange  happens  when one of these apps  is opening up and I try to connect ....
[12:47] <AlexZion> .....and the point is , no one os these apps has a password stored on the wallet ....
[12:49] <AlexZion> anyway...., is not a big problem if you know it, just a bit unconfortable .... ;)
[12:50] <lcb> AlexZion: disable it in settings.
[12:50] <AlexZion> lcb there is a way to take out just the wireless pasword from the wallet !?!
[12:51] <AlexZion> because kwallet is really usefull for me except for the wireless password .. .:D
[12:52] <lcb> AlexZion: under Waccess Control" i believe
[12:52] <lcb> "Access Control"
[12:53] <AlexZion> lcb: Access Control !?! what is that ?, I don't have something called Access Control for what I know ....
[12:54] <lcb> AlexZion: i had issues with it too so i decided to disable kwallet at all. i never  spent time to discover where the problems reside.
[12:55] <lcb> on the konsole type kwalletmanager | then click on the tab Access Control and expand kdewallet
[12:55] <AlexZion> yeah in the paste I did too, but rigth now I really need kwallet to store a lot of password like different ftp access, or some login and so on , so would be really nice to understand how to manage it ...
[12:57] <lcb> AlexZion: you might have in there one item for wireless
[12:57] <AlexZion> ok but on the access control settings , there is not a voice saying network manager ....
[12:58] <lcb> AlexZion: nothing.. like something related to networking??
[12:58] <lcb> i can't tell you the correct one because mine is disabled as i said :(
[12:58] <AlexZion> no on the access control panel ...., I have something about it just on the wallet ...
[13:00] <Peace-> AlexZion: :)
[13:01] <Peace-> nice job on the channel AlexZion
[13:01] <AlexZion> anyway , I'll try to remove the wireless password , and after that try to avoid tha use oh kwallet from network manager , hopefully it will works ...., even if I never been lucjy with that ....., thanks...
[13:01] <AlexZion> hi Peace- what are you talking about !?!
[13:02] <Peace-> AlexZion: are you not italian?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:02] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hey
[13:02] <lcb> AlexZion: i would remove all that wireless point. since you are having some issues with the passwds. then configure it again
[13:02] <lcb> AlexZion: restart networking after doing it, if you do
[13:02] <Peace-> AlexZion: oh you had the problem :D
[13:02] <Peace-> sorry
[13:02] <Peace-> :P
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[13:02] <AlexZion> yeah sure , I'm the on on the italian channel but..., what nice job are you talking about ?
[13:03] <Peace-> AlexZion: nothing sorry i have read bad i thougth you was supportin on the channel
[13:03] <fayaz> hi, how do i properly backup my kwallet passwords?
[13:03] <Peace-> AlexZion: instead you had a problem xD and you have asked support
[13:04] <AlexZion> ok Peace-, sometime I do when I can , but as you know I'm not so expert ... :D
[13:05] <lcb> :)
[13:05] <lcb> launch time here. brb
[13:05] <lcb> lunch either
[13:05] <Peace-> fayaz: i would save the hidden file
[13:06] <fayaz> Peace-: filepath?
[13:07] <Peace-> fayaz: locate kwallet | grep $HOME/.kde/
[13:07] <Peace-> should be kwl
[13:07] <Peace-> i guess
[13:08] <Peace-> BluesKaj: temperature?
[13:08] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i am melting
[13:08] <BluesKaj> 21C at 9:08
[13:09] <fayaz> Peace-: thanks
[13:09] <Peace-> here i guess 30 shadow
[13:09] <BluesKaj> going to 30 today ...warm for this area
[13:09] <Peace-> 8000 under the sun
[13:09] <BluesKaj> shade
[13:09] <Peace-> :) yea
[14:07] <31NAAPI8M> i wan't KDE 4.7rc ppa
[14:08] <ikonia> great, get it
[14:10] <31NAAPI8M> is there kde4.7 rc ppa on launchpad
[14:10] <yofel> no
[14:10] <BluesKaj> yeah , it'll break your system ..tried it yesterday ...ended up in an unresponsive prompt , with no X
[14:11] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M,^
[14:12] <31NAAPI8M> ?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M, read what I posted above
[14:13] <BluesKaj> kde 4.7 isn't ready
[14:13] <31NAAPI8M> thnks
[14:18] <31NAAPI8M> BluseKaj : but my friend got 4.7 release candidate with  pacman in arch.
[14:18] <lcb> do you guys know any data and software management suite for mobile devices? (meaning access to your device system and data and manipulating it)
[14:18] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: not supported
[14:20] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: not supported in a direct sense = by means of a normal installation and maintenance of the system you are running from the official and main source.
[14:21] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M, well, it migh work with his HW in arhHc, but this is kubuntu and your HW may be different , hence diffrent results
[14:23] <31NAAPI8M> ok, arch is rolling relase! and kubuntu is  not rolling relase! :)
[14:24] <31NAAPI8M> release
[14:26] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: probably is rolling conscientiously on the backstage instead of on-the-fly patches/updates from "accessories"(in this case a graphical environment)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> 31NAAPI8M, if you want to try it , then go ahead..my post is just a warning abot what happened to me !
[14:28] <lcb> 31NAAPI8M: you don't see too many problems here it's a symptom that all updates/grades are well tested before going to the "wild"
[14:28] <lcb> *here. it's a symp..*
[14:42] <khindenburg> After upgrade 4.6.5, I can't start konsole - any ideas how to resolve? Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702)
[14:44] <lcb> "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x1040701) with this library (version 0x1040702)" that says it all. Cannot mix a current system with a non tested one.
[14:46] <lcb> i think someone should add to the topic about unsupported "additions" to kubuntu
[14:47] <sorush20> what program do I use to draw algorythms
[14:47] <sorush20> algorithems
[14:51] <cdunlap> Has anyone had any trouble upgrading to KDE4.6.5 from the kubuntu ppa?
[14:55] <yofel> khindenburg: to continue from yesterday: are you on 32 or 64bit? LD_LIBRARY_PATH set in any way?
[15:23] <slsimic> What are the ways to set wireless connection in Kubuntu? I tried with Network Management plasmoid, but that way connection is made after I login into KDE. I tried wicd-kde also but wicd won't connect with my router with WPA2 encryption saying "Bad password".
[15:24] <Graf_Westerholt> !network | slsimic
[15:24] <slsimic> Is there any other way to set and make wireless connection during startup?
[15:24] <sorush20> !koffice
[15:24] <sorush20> !koffice
[15:25] <sorush20> how do i install koffice?
[15:25] <sorush20> Its not there.
[15:26] <sorush20> its not in the repositories
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !libreoffice
[15:26] <sorush20> http://www.kde.org/applications/office/
[15:27] <BluesKaj> !info | libreoffice
[15:27] <BluesKaj> really?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> !LibreOffice
[15:29] <slsimic> Graf_Westerholt: this info is rather old
[15:29] <BluesKaj> strange stuff ...this is weird it's in the repos
[15:29] <slsimic> even 8.04 is mentioned there
[15:30] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20 sudo apt-get install kword
[15:30] <slsimic> and is mostly for Ubuntu and Gnome
[15:32] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: I want the entire office packages.. etc
[15:32] <BluesKaj> I guess the open office transition to libreoffice is still in the dev stages
[15:33] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20 sudo apt-get install koffice
[15:33] <BluesKaj> sorush20, libreoffice is the suite you want then
[15:33] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: its not installed
[15:34] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, that comand installs it.
[15:35] <sorush20> how do I get thekde menu to re arrange itself?
[15:35] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, that command arranges it.
[15:38] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: I'm not a newbe ... the command doesn't do what you are suggesting.. it is only installing one package and on removal only removing one package .. sudo apt-get install koffice
[15:39] <BluesKaj> sorush20, are you looking for a Microsoft Office replacement ?
[15:39] <sorush20> BluesKaj: no
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:39] <BluesKaj> or equivlent on linux ?
[15:40] <sorush20> BluesKaj: no , there is something wrong with my sources or my dpkg
[15:40] <Graf_Westerholt> [17:25:42] <sorush20> how do i install koffice? The command installs koffice. What you you want?
[15:41] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: well I came here assuming something has changed from the previous versions of kubuntu apt-get install koffice , but since it didn't work then I'm here to see if this is a common prob or anything has changed. but since not then there is somehting worng at my end
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, sometimes alternative suggestions if the person is new to linux and not real sure of what they need
[15:43] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, maybe you pastebin your output of the command.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> sorush20, check you kpackagekit or software sources and make sure the canonical partners are also enabled as well the universe and muliverse
[15:44] <sorush20> I'm right now doing  dpkg-reconfigure -a
[15:44] <sorush20> take some time
[15:46] <sorush20> nothing comes out on dpkg-reconfigure koffice
[15:46] <sorush20> koffice is already the newest version.
[15:46] <sorush20> that is the message from apt-get install koffice
[15:47] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, so run „kwrite“ in the terminal.
[15:48] <sorush20> Graf_Westerholt: its working I'm seeing it
[15:48] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[15:48] <sorush20> kword I've tried
[15:48] <sorush20> what version shoudl it be
[15:49] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20, I think 2.3.3
[15:49] <Graf_Westerholt> Says so here.
[15:50] <sorush20> do you have kivio installed?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> so waht's the advantage of koffice over an office suite like libre office besides space on the drive ?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> better kde integration ?
[15:53]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[15:54] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj, everybody use the application he likes. :)
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Graf_Westerholt, that's not what I asked :).....but nevermind
[15:56] <sorush20> apparently if you want to use kivio you have to stick with koffice 1.6 etc
[15:56] <sorush20> http://www.koffice.org/download/
[15:57] <sorush20> is there anything like kivio anyone else here uses.
[15:59] <BluesKaj> odd sorush20 that your package manager doesn't contain koffice
[16:00] <sorush20> BluesKaj: it does contain it and it does install it and I can use the programs but kivio is not part of it and the kdemenu > office is not showing any of the programs
[16:01] <BluesKaj> ok sorush20
[16:04] <khindenburg> yofel: that LD is not set
[16:05] <khindenburg> it's possible I messed up my system somehow - I use this laptop to devel kde stuff
[16:05] <yofel> khindenburg: what does 'which qmake' say?
[16:05] <Graf_Westerholt> What is kivio?
[16:05] <Graf_Westerholt> !kivio
[16:05] <khindenburg> yofel: not installed
[16:06] <Graf_Westerholt> sorush20 sometimes you have to wait or restart KDE to have the programs in the menu.
[16:08] <kjartano> hello is there any one that can help me install java ? xD
[16:09] <Graf_Westerholt> !java | kjartano
[16:11] <yofel> khindenburg: and 'which konsole' says?
[16:12] <khindenburg> yofel: 5436 2011-07-08 04:34 /usr/bin/konsole*
[16:13] <khindenburg> the konsolepart must work since I"m using yakuake
[16:14] <yofel> I'm out of ideas then, 32 or 64bit?
[16:15] <yofel> unless you have a Qt installation in /usr/local or so
[16:15] <yofel> but then it should've found qmake
[16:15] <khindenburg> yofel: 32
[16:16] <khindenburg> yofel: that's OK - I likely did it myself - txs
[16:19] <tiago__> how can i open an output from a previous command in gedit, without creating a new file
[16:19] <tiago__> such as this: curl --manual > curlmanual && gedit curlmanual, without actually creating curlmanual
[16:30] <monocode> Anyone experiencing KDE freezes on NVIDIA drivers when you try to resize Konsole app ?
[16:32] <monocode> I have KDE 4.6.5 on Kubuntu 64 bit and when I try to resize Konsole it freezes my desktop environment and the user interface does not accept any input from keyboard anymore all I can do is restart from the button
[16:34] <maciej> i'm getting error: Configuration file "/home/maciej/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc" not writable.
[16:34] <maciej> Please contact your system administrator.
[16:34] <maciej> when i open the quick access browser
[16:35] <monocode> maciej: you need to make dolphinrc file writable
[16:35] <monocode> maciej: write click on it and change it permissions or from the command line
[16:36] <BluesKaj> write = right
[16:36] <monocode> right :)
[16:36] <maciej> permission already : Owner: can read and write
[16:37] <maciej> group : forbidden, others: forbidden
[16:37] <monocode> maciej: this file is in your home directory I suppose not from other user, right ?
[16:38] <maciej> correct
[16:38] <maciej> perhaps its fixed, i changed to 'read only' ok, then set back to read and write' ok, now no dialog popup
[16:38] <maciej> thank you
[16:39] <yofel> monocode: konsole trashing your system is a known issue with the nvidia 270 driver, you would need an updated one, add 'ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates' to your sources and update
[16:39] <maciej> monocode: nevermind, dialog still pops up on new dolphin
[16:40] <monocode> yofel: thanks, I'll try it out
[16:40] <maciej> is there a way i can force fix the permission because its already set to read and write,
[16:40] <monocode> maciej: Change the permissions for others and group to Read and Write
[16:42] <maciej> monocode: easy enough, thanks
[16:42] <linux-beginner-h> how can I install wayland on kubuntu 11.4?
[16:42] <yofel> linux-beginner-h: there is an (experimental!!) wayland package in the archive
[16:43] <kirk> monocode: re NVIDIA & Konsole resizing, confirmed, resize crashes
[16:43] <linux-beginner-h> yofel: yes, but it's broken because of libcairo2-dev
[16:44] <yofel> linux-beginner-h: then I fear I don't know, the folks in #ubuntu-x should know more
[16:44] <linux-beginner-h> yofel: okthanks
[16:44] <monocode> kirk: I tried to disable VSync and some other stuff from desktop effects but the same result, now I'm updating the NVIDIA drivers from the ppa mentioned above and see what happens
[16:44] <yofel> kirk: monocode: bug 760632
[16:46] <monocode> Its because of nvidia drivers I know this without even reading the bug report from launchpad because Kubuntu used to rock on my system with older versions of the driver
[16:46] <monocode> anyway I'll try and see what people have found there and help with my own findings to solve the bug
[16:47] <yofel> there's a variable you can set to prevent the crashing, but updating the driver should help too
[16:54] <monocode> updating the drivers solved the problem
[16:58] <soultekkie> been a user of ubuntu since 8.04... used to gnome... now that ubuntu isnt gnome i've given kubuntu a try... "KDE where have you been all my life?"
[17:00] <soultekkie> so... i'll keep using ubunto of the "
[17:00] <soultekkie> so... i'll keep using ubunto of the "K" kind :P
[17:01] <preecher> soultekkie its sweet isnt it eh
[17:01] <soultekkie> ya
[17:01] <soultekkie> the network manager is absolutely brilliant
[17:01] <soultekkie> cant count the problems i get from network-manager-applet in gnome
[17:04] <preecher> i like it for various reasons but the default look alone is very nice & i say it alot but kubu runs faster than ubu on my end
[17:05] <soultekkie> the interface is great... even gnome3 is getting kind of weird
[17:06] <soultekkie> gnome-shell resembles unity
[17:06] <BluesKaj> network manager on kde and gnome are only ood with the most common wifi chips like broadcom etc...anything out of the ordinary has probs
[17:06] <soultekkie> at least kde still is a desktop environment that looks pro
[17:06] <BluesKaj> err good
[17:06] <monocode> Anyone using TweetDeck (an Adobe AIR app) in Kubuntu?
[17:07] <soultekkie> with networkmanager 0.8.4 as soon as i plugged my Alfa AWUS036NH it went crazy in ubuntu 10.04 (was running 2.6.38-10 kernel)
[17:07] <soultekkie> it looked better on ubuntu 11.04 but i dispise unity
[17:09] <soultekkie> excuse my english ... portuguese dude here :P
[17:09] <preecher> np its fine
[17:09] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry, soultekkie, but I try to learn portuguese. :)
[17:10] <soultekkie> i may from time to time misspell some words sorry
[17:10] <Graf_Westerholt> No problem, soultekkie. I think most people here are not native English speakers. So me.
[17:25] <soultekkie> anyone using sudoers with nopasswd on 11.04?
[17:25] <soultekkie> cant seem to configure it properly
[17:29] <BluesKaj> soultekkie, yes , are you editing with vi ?
[17:29] <soultekkie> with vim
[17:31] <soultekkie> i got *user*    ALL=(ALL)    NOPASSWD:ALL
[17:31] <soultekkie> *user* is my username... not written like that... 5 letters, no caps
[17:31] <Graf_Westerholt> I hope you know what you are doing, soultekkie.
[17:32] <yofel> he does I guess, should work as long as you put that at the bottom of the file
[17:32] <soultekkie> in ubuntu 10.04 it was simpler... "user   ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"
[17:32] <yofel> otherwise %admin might override the permission setting
[17:32] <soultekkie> and that would set it
[17:33] <BluesKaj> yes , you also have to include /usr/bin/apt, /usr/bin/apt-get/ etc in the list plus what ever apps need the pw like packagemangers etc
[17:34] <soultekkie> ty yofel... that did it :P bottom of the file FTW
[17:42] <soultekkie> backwards compatibility is a good thing... beeing able to run gparted in kde is beautiful
[17:44] <soultekkie> dumb question... is nautilus able to run on kde?
[17:47] <monocode> why not... its just a file manager... that will bring on some gnomish dependencies
[17:47] <monocode> but if you really want... :)
[17:47] <soultekkie> just because dolphin copies a video/mp3 file before playing it
[17:48] <soultekkie> i actually prefer dolphin look and feel
[17:57] <soultekkie> ok... nautilus solved the *remote video play* issue.. and i'll use it for that alone :P
[18:45] <afief> Is there a a way to install 4.7 RC on kubuntu 11.04?
[18:45] <yofel> not yet
[18:46] <afief> yofel: when can I be looking forward to its awesomeness?
[18:49] <yofel> I don't like giving estimates. RC2 might be ready in a ~week
[19:43] <Miika--> Hello, I made put kubuntu iso image to usb with the usb-creator and when I try to boot, it hangs just in the beginning, I get only black screen where at the top reads about SYSLINUX or something like that... what's the problem?
[19:43] <Miika--> I tried unetbootin too, but same...
[20:08] <peace2_> Miika--: bad iso downloaded
[20:08] <peace2_> !alternate | Miika--
[20:12] <Miika--> peace2_: ok, I'll try that
[20:12] <Miika--> thanks
[20:57] <preecher> i'm on kde-look.org, found a weather plasmoid (yet another weather plasmoid/yawp) that ive used in other distros--my question is there a way i can install this plasmoid ?
[21:01] <PythonSnake> preecher: yeah sure
[21:02] <PythonSnake> preecher: download it and install it from widgets
[21:02] <preecher> PythonSnake: thanks
[21:03] <PythonSnake> preecher: np
[21:03] <PythonSnake> preecher: do you play pursuit force ? o.O
[21:07] <preecher> PythonSnake: no i havent gamed in awhile, need to get back into it tho
[21:08] <PythonSnake> preecher: lol ok
[21:27] <Miika--> Hello, I downloaded alternate iso image and tried to boot from that but no effect
[21:27] <Python_> !details | Miika
[21:27] <Miika--> Still hangs at the very beginning
[21:28] <Miika--> Python_: I downloaded kubuntu alternate iso image, put it onto 4g usb drive with unetbootin and rebooted system... when I choose my usb drive from boot device menu, I get black screen that says something about SYSLINUX
[21:29] <Miika--> And I checked md5 sum of that iso image, it's ok
[21:30] <Python_> What's the "something about SYSLINUX" ?
[21:31] <Miika--> Like this: SYSLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (c) 1994-2010, H. Peter Anvin et al
[21:31] <Miika--> Not sure if it was exactly that, but much like it at least
[21:33] <Python> format usb drive to fat32 and install again
[21:33] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[21:33] <ikonia> Miika--: is it possible to use a CD ?
[21:36] <uofm49426> is there a update for wpa and kubuntu 11.04
[21:37] <uofm49426> just had to open my network from wondows
[21:37] <uofm49426> just had to open my network from windows
[21:39] <Miika--> Python: It is FAT32
[21:40] <Miika--> ikonia: I tried, with two different CDs
[21:40] <ikonia> Miika--: ok so what happens when you boot from a CD ?
[21:44] <Miika--> ikonia: lots of errors, but I'll try now burning alternate iso to CD... the one I tried was desktop iso
[21:44] <ikonia> Miika--: lots of errors, what sort of thing ?
[21:46] <uofm49426> not sure if its a rt8180 module problem or kubuntu but wouldnt connect with my passphras
[21:46] <uofm49426> wpa
[21:47] <Miika--> i think reading errors... but not sure
[21:47] <Miika--> if those repeat, ill report
[21:47] <ikonia> Miika--: well, if you're having issues with it on cd and usb, it does suggest the image you've downloaded may not be valid
[21:49] <Miika--> I'll leave for now, I try CD I just burned
[21:52] <uofm49426> why cant i lookin to my connect to my router in wpa
[21:53] <uofm49426> passphrass
[21:54] <uofm49426> why cant i loogin to my connect to my router in wpa kubuntu 11.04 rt8185 netgear rounter
[22:01] <uofm49426> #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:47] <soultekkie> can you guyz recommend a good video player for kde...
[23:47] <soultekkie> vlc is good but has some issues with kde
[23:52] <Python> soultekkie: default one
[23:52] <scb> soultekkie: smplayer,
[23:53] <soultekkie> default is dragon
[23:58] <scb> soultekkie: that thing is a joke, just use smplayer.


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[14:48] <gQuigs> would anyone mind accepting this bug target for xenial - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1673579