[06:44] <SeaOfTea> that's why I thought you were in something else, cause you said you didn't have intrepid
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Lymies: What is the #! line in your script?
[06:44] <[mbm]> iain: what's the basic layout of your network? internet comes in a cable/dsl model, which is then connected to a router which is then connected to all the computers?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> gigel2006: Yes
[06:44] <Lymies> Jordan_U, #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[06:45] <Jordan_U> Lymies: How are you calling your script?
[06:45] <Lymies> flac2mp3.pl
[06:45] <iain> [mbm]: Yes, and I'm upstairs from the crappy wireless router with a crappy wireless connection, on account of there being no ethernet port in this room.
[06:45] <Lymies> and its in /usr/bin/local
[06:45] <Lymies> which is in my path
[06:45] <iain> But it's not so crappy that I should be able to see it but not ping it; I could connect at least under 8.04
[06:46] <gigel2006> Jordan_U: Error inserting lbm_cw_mac80211 Unknown symbol in module
[06:46] <[mbm]> iain: your cable/dsl router has builtin wireless?
[06:46] <netdur> help, samba shares don't see each other
[06:46] <iain> My router does; not my cable modem
[06:46] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006:  somethings wrong with the driver
[06:47] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: Did you install the backports module
[06:47] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: yes, do I have to restart ?
[06:47] <deuceswild> Hey Seaoftea: I was just wondering what happens when you don't boot with noapic acpi=off
[06:47] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Odd, because perl doesn't give "command not found", shells do. Can you check that /usr/bin/perl is not a symlink to /bin/sh or something like that ( though I don't see why it would be )
[06:48] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: try a restart, and if that doesn't work disable madwifi
[06:48] <[mbm]> iain: and it probably also has a DHCP server for handing out ip addresses, so upon connecting to the wireless network, you should get an ip of 192.168.1.x, a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS> and a gateway of <IP_ADDRESS> - right?
[06:48] <thomasite> ! fslint
[06:49] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: how do I disable madwidi ?
[06:49] <iain> Replace the third bit with a 2 (<IP_ADDRESS>), but yeah
[06:49] <SeaOfTea> deuceswild: My boot locks up if I don't boot with those options
[06:49] <Lymies> Jordan_U, /usr/bin/perl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[06:49] <Lymies> no symlink
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Lymies: That's really odd
[06:49] <[mbm]> iain: and from your wireless connection can you ping anything 192.168.2.* ?
[06:50] <SeaOfTea> gigel2006: you should be able to actually through system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[06:50] <gigel2006> SeaOfTea: ok , im going to try it
[06:50] <iain> [mbm]: On any other box, yeah
[06:50] <SeaOfTea> give it a shot
[06:51] <Vastlee> What is the linux command to go up a directory.  i.e. cd.. in windows
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Vastlee: cd ..
[06:51] <[mbm]> iain: I'm guessing that besidess a wireless connection, that machine also has an ethernet connection?
[06:51] <SeaOfTea> lol
[06:51] <Vastlee> Oh you need a space, got it
[06:51] <chuckmoney> Vastlee: you can also do cd ../ just to be sure but yeah, cd .. works.
[06:51] <SeaOfTea> rofl, (01:51:01 AM) Vastlee: What is the linux command to go up a directory.  i.e. cd.. in windows
[06:52] <iain> [mbm]: Yeah, but it isn't connected to anything
[06:52] <iain> Oh, crap, I just thought of something:
[06:52] <Vastlee> I never put a space in there in windows, wasn't used to it
[06:52] <deuceswild> Vastlee: that got me too
[06:52] <[mbm]> iain: if the ethernet connection still has an ip address, the computer will become confused about which device to use
[06:52] <deuceswild> I made an alias for it though
[06:52] <eric> HOw do i install flashplayer on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[06:53] <iain> When I installed from the alternate CD, it asked for network setup info, and I gave it a static IP address, because that's what I used under 8.04.  But nm-applet has been assigning it an IP address from the DHCP pool.
[06:53] <Songwind> I need to make an "ls" alias for my Windows workstation in the office and save myself some grief.
[06:53] <chuckmoney> SeaOfTea: don't make fun of him.  The difference between "I didn't know I needed a space" and "I don't know how to disable madwifi" is a very small one
[06:53] <deuceswild> Songwind, have you used powershell?
[06:53] <iain> Sure enough, 'ifconfig eth0' shows that static IP address.
[06:53] <Vastlee> Eric, I went to adobe's site and they actually had a download for the package installer
[06:53] <Vastlee> Made it very easy
[06:53] <FuLio> Vastlee, Alright ty
[06:54] <iain> How can I get rid of that setting?
[06:54] <netdur> help, samba shares can see each others but can't access shared files
[06:54] <SeaOfTea> I'm not making fun of him, its just ironic that the answer was in the question
[06:54] <[mbm]> iain: ifdown eth0, then edit /etc/network/interfaces and remove the eth0 section
[06:54] <Songwind> deuce:  I just noticed it got installed via SMS sometime this week, but I haven't really used it much yet.
[06:54] <deuceswild> you should try it out
[06:54] <Songwind> I did use it long enough to know that it doesn't have "grep" :)
[06:54] <chuckmoney> eric: you can drop to a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree" and that should do it.  you may also need libflashsupport, but usually that's not needed.
[06:55] <deuceswild> really? I thought it would have an alias built in to the equivilant
[06:55] <thanakrit> hi
[06:55] <fuxxy> Is North America NTSC sample rate 32000 Hz? I 'm getting an error in mythbackend log "2008-11-15 00:54:45.507 MPEGRec(/dev/v4l/video0) Warning: Audio sample rate 32000 Hz is not supported by ivtv driver, using 48000 Hz instead."
[06:55] <Songwind> Not that I noticed.  I am pretty used to findstr now.  I generally only grep once per windows session nowadays. :)
[06:55] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Is there anything before "use" ?
[06:56] <Lymies> Jordan_U, nope
[06:56] <iain> [mbm]: Do I need to run a command after that to register the change?
[06:56] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: nope.  you either need 11500Hz, 24000, or 48000.
[06:56] <Jordan_U> Lymies: How did you install perl?
[06:56] <Lymies> Jordan_U, it runs fine if i use 'perl /usr/local/bin/flac2mp3.pl' but just not if i use 'flac2mp3.pl'
[06:56] <[mbm]> iain: no; the ifdown part was to make it forget the eth0 settings, editing the file is just so it doesn't reapply then on a reboot
[06:56] <iain> RT
[06:57] <iain> OK*
[06:57] <chuckmoney> Lymies: you need to add PERL as the interperater to the first line of the script itself
[06:57] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, I'm assuming I set that in the myth frontend. Know where specificlally?
[06:57] <iain> I can ping my router now, but can't tracepath it.  Why would that be?
[06:57] <Debolaz> Hmm, an application is segfaulting, but I'm not getting any coredumps for it. It's not a setuid, it's my (writable) directory it's being run in.. Is there any particular reason I'd not get a core dump?
[06:57] <Lymies> chuckmoney, the first line of the script is #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[06:57] <Xial> I don't quite know how to describe this. I just reflexively pressed win+R to run something, and now my screen is moving around when I move the mouse. Tapping escape doesn't make it stop, and pressing the same keys again does not help. What did I just break?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Lymies: You aren't running ". flac2mp3" are you?
[06:58] <Lymies> Nope. I'm running flac2mp3.pl
[06:58] <[mbm]> fuxxy: most audio cards require 44.1Khz or 48Khz so the software converts .. the original 32Khz comes from whatever source material you used
[06:58] <picachu> QUESTION ~ Say I want to install Hardy, is there a way I don't have to go through installing all the updates? Like, get a more recent CD? Not Intrepid?
[06:58] <chuckmoney> Lymies: no clue why it would be failing then, since those commands are basically one and the same.  try checking your $path and see if one of the other locations listed first also has perl in it
[06:58] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: not that I know of, I run the standard ubuntu desktop, not myth.
[06:58] <Songwind> Xial:  like it's on a cube?
[06:59] <Songwind> Xial:  try right-clicking?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Lymies: As a test to see that the #! line isn't being ignored replace /user/bin/perl -w with /bin/cat, when you "run" your script it should simply print itself
[06:59] <[mbm]> iain: can you ping something outside your router (google?)
[06:59] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: though if it doing it at 48000 for you automatically, you can safely ignore the error.  32000 may just be the frew of your input source, so maybe you can't change it anyway.
[07:00] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, LiveTV recording profile is set to 48000, but there's a note tht says "btaudio may only allow 32000"
[07:00] <Xial> Songwind: Not like a cube, but more like a picture that's been zoomed in upon and is panning. Right-click on the desktop had no effect other than to open a menu offering to change backgrounds.
[07:00] <iain> [mbm]: Yes, but I again can't tracepath it.
[07:00] <[mbm]> iain: wouldn't worry too much about the tracepath then
[07:00] <Songwind> Xial:  ah, you changed viewport size.
[07:01] <iain> [mbm]: OK
[07:01] <iain> [mbm]: I really appreciate your help.
[07:01] <[mbm]> iain: np.
[07:01] <Vastlee> I'm trying to create this samba share, and in the documentation I need root rights to edit my fstab, naturally I can't save the file after editing it.  So how do I give myself root rights?
[07:01] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: ignore that.  it's just saying your bluetooth input or output may not run at a full 48k.  again, audio systems like that, especially bluetooth, are made to shift automatically on the fly.  you can ignore it.
[07:01] <[mbm]> Vastlee: sudo
[07:01] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, ok.
[07:02] <iain> OK, on the the next problem :P
[07:02] <Vastlee> I was editing this file with gedit, is it possible to do it from there?
[07:02] <fuxxy> chuckmoney, I've got a PVR150, I would assume the pvr150 would record at 48000 hz sample rate natively.
[07:02] <chuckmoney> fuxxy: worst case your sound will just barely sound a little degraded, best case it's just a warning and your bluetooth can do 48k fine.  either way, it's not worth trying to fix...if it even can be fixed.
[07:02] <[mbm]> Vastlee: although with ubuntu you don't need to edit the samba file, you can just right click on folders and share them
[07:02] <iain> Metacity segfaults, so I have no WM.  What might cause this?
[07:03] <Vastlee> Ahh that's good news.  Thanks mbm
[07:03] <Neurologic> I'm looking for a few opinions, of some very useful/'gotta-have' type of applications available through the package manager?
[07:04] <Xial> Songwind: Okay. I think I figured it out. It stopped sliding and being blurry, which helps.
[07:04] <iain> Neurologic: why would you install something just because someone else can't live without it?
[07:04] <Songwind> Xial: Cool.  I never use that feature so I was trying to figure out how to turn it off :)
[07:04] <woody86> Would there be any differences between the way Kubuntu and Ubuntu work that would make one better to run on a 64bit dual-core AMD?
[07:05] <Xial> Songwind: Strangely, all I did was an alt-tab, and it just blinked.
[07:05] <Jordan_U> iain: Is there any output from "metacity --replace" before it segfaults ?
[07:05] <[mbm]> iain: just run metacity again to restart the WM .. if you're really interested in why it crashed you can gdb it
[07:05] <Neurologic> iain, Not really for me, just told a friend to get Ubuntu, and she wanted some applications to try out, I told her "Ubuntu starts with most anything you really 'need' but...I'll look around"
[07:05] <chuckmoney> Neurologic: Thunderbird, Gossip, X-Chat, Banshee.  Beyond that I mainly just use the default apps.  Tilda, if it works with your graphics card and you do a lot of console work.  Maybe WINE if you need to run basic windows programs.  Hmm...not much else.
[07:05] <badfish69> how do i kill all instances of terminal?
[07:05] <Neurologic> chuckmoney, A lot of the same things I thought too, thanks =)
[07:06] <chuckmoney> badfish69: drop to a terminal and run "killall gnome-termi9nal"
[07:06] <[mbm]> badfish69: figure out the name of the terminal (like gnome-terminal) and then: killall gnome-terminal ?
[07:06] <Vastlee> To share a folder after installing Samba, do I just right click - properties - permissions and change the group to sambashare?
[07:06] <chuckmoney> badfish69: what [mbm] said :)
[07:06] <[mbm]> Vastlee: thought it was right clikc -> sharing options .. not on a ubuntu machien right now to check
[07:07] <iain> Jordan_U: No.  With or without --replace, it just says "segmentation fault".  There's not even a flicker of a WM trying to show up.
[07:07] <iain> Neurologic: then: Kobo Deluxe is a fun game
[07:07] <Vastlee> I didn't see sharing options when I did a right click on the folder
[07:07] <badfish69> ty
[07:07] <Vastlee> Maybe I don't have Samba setup right?
[07:07] <chuckmoney> Vastlee: yeah, it's just Sharing Options
[07:07] <[mbm]> Vastlee: you might need to log in again afeter installing samba
[07:07] <Neurologic> iain, alright =)
[07:07] <Vastlee> k will try thanks
[07:07] <nomad77> !swat | Vastlee
[07:07] <chuckmoney> Vastlee: and it should prompt you to install samba the first time you try to share one if you don't already have samba installed.
[07:09] <my_haz> when using the live cd, where is the hardisk mounted?
[07:09] <chuckmoney> Neurologic: If she wants a fun game you could also suggest Freeciv.  It's the only 2D thing I've ever sank 7 hours of my life into per play
[07:10] <prosthetics> hey guys
[07:10] <Neurologic> chuckmoney, lol! I will then, though thunderbird? Not a fan of Evolution?
[07:10] <prosthetics> many around at the moment?
[07:10] <Star568> hi all, may i have suggestion how to partation a 16 G flash drive for USB startup?
[07:10] <chuckmoney> my_haz: /media/disk maybe?  Not sure.  Everything should be mounted under /media or /mnt.  You can just run "mount" in terminal and it'll tell you.
[07:10] <[mbm]> my_haz: probably isn't mounted, but if it is it'll be in /media
[07:10] <prosthetics> Star, u running linux or windows?
[07:10] <prosthetics> windows: use the hpo format utility
[07:10] <Star568> linux
[07:10] <prosthetics> linux: no idea :/
[07:10] <prosthetics> solaris i can tell you as well :)
[07:10] <picachu> Star568:  5GB for Ubuntu, 1GB for Swap, the rest for /home
[07:11] <my_haz> [mbm]: so how would i dd (as in disk destroy) it ?
[07:11] <prosthetics> picachu, he still needs to make it bootable
[07:11] <ubd> i have a 1 port ethernet adsl modem, it is a zyxel 660r, i coected a netgear ap to it. i have 2 laptops but one of them frequetly disconnects (actually does not disconnect but receive nothing when the other laptop is used) is not it possible to use 1 port modem with two pcs
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Star568: Do you want to make a bootable Ubuntu install?
[07:11] <chuckmoney> Neurologic: Not so much against evolution as for Thunderbird.  I don't use most of the groupware-centric stuff in Evolution and I use Gossip instead of Pidgin so it makes more sense to run Thunderbird with Lightning.  Smaller, faster, everything I need, nothing I don't.
[07:12] <my_haz> ubd: not directly, not like if you had a router
[07:12] <[mbm]> my_haz: figure out the name of the device you want to destroy and then read the dd man page :)
[07:12] <prosthetics> Guys, i havent run my ubuntu in a while, are ati drivers for 48xx series working nowadays?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Star568: In 8.10 you can just go to System > Administration > Create USB Startup Disk
[07:12] <iain> Ooh, I figured it out.  Updated apt now that I'm online, and reinstalled metacity and metacity-common.
[07:13] <Neurologic> chuckmoney, hmm, good point
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Still there?
[07:13] <chuckmoney> ubd: Indeed, as my_haz says, if you have only a wireless AP, not a Wireless ROuter, then the only way to service both laptops would be to either buy a router, or else add a second wireless card to one laptop and use it as a bridge for the other laptop.,
[07:13] <my_haz> [mbm]: so what you suggest for a the REGEX for  `dmesg | grep REGEX` should be?
[07:13] <[mbm]> ubd: if you paid for multiple ip addresses, you can plug an ethernet switch into the adsl, otherwise go buy a 'cable/dsl router' and plug that in .. that will only use on adsl ip address
[07:13] <Star568> jordan: my question is 16G for fat32 will waste a lot space
[07:14] <[mbm]> my_haz: the first disk is usually /dev/sda and the first partition on that disk is /dev/sda1
[07:14] <CjMaster> Quick questions: I know that lots of applications and files slows down windows, but does it slow down ubuntu?
[07:14] <ubd> my_haz, i checked from the modem (is also a router/gateway i think) laptops healthly gets seperate ip like <IP_ADDRESS> and .4  ap get 192 168.1.2 and the gateway 168.1.1
[07:14] <my_haz> [mbm]: ok i will try that
[07:14] <ubd> i dot see any problem here
[07:14] <picachu> CjMaster: What do you mean? You mean having them just installed, or running all those applications?
[07:15] <CjMaster> Installed
[07:15] <Jordan_U> my_haz: Be careful though, you don't want to destroy the wrong disk :)
[07:15] <Star568> picachu: what's the next step to do when i boot up with the USB drive?
[07:15] <my_haz> Jordan_U: hehe
[07:15] <my_haz> ok wish me luck
[07:15] <chuckmoney> my_haz: yes, and if that fails, check /dev/hda.  Older drives (like really old IDE drives) will sometimes be /dev/hda.  any new drive - SATA or SCSI - will be /dev/sda
[07:15] <[mbm]> my_haz: why are you dd'ing the drive ?
[07:15] <picachu> CjMaster: no, it won't slow Ubuntu down.
[07:15] <iain> my_haz: be sure to grok the bs option in the man page, or it will take forever.
[07:15] <my_haz> [mbm]: because i want to destroy the data so that its fresh
[07:16] <my_haz> iain: bs=1 ?
[07:16] <chuckmoney> my_haz: but /dev/hda will often be your CD drive too so only look for /dev/hda if you have no /dev/sda
[07:16] <[mbm]> my_haz: just reinstalling or are you going to sell the drive?
[07:16] <my_haz> [mbm]: i am giving the drive away
[07:16] <[mbm]> my_haz: if you're just reinstalling you don't actually need to wipe the drive; if you're giving the drive away you may want to use /dev/urandom as a source when dd'ing
[07:16] <chuckmoney> my_haz: may I suggest using dban?
[07:17] <picachu> Hey...... how can I plugin my USB drive from Live CD? It doesn't show on desktop, not even on nautilus sidebar
[07:17] <Star568> picachu: do i need to "install ubuntu" when the USB bootup screen show up? will it install it on my USB drive only ?
[07:17] <chuckmoney> my_haz: Derik's Boot & Nuke.  the most utterly simple way to wipe any drive make-the-NSA-work-overtime clean.
[07:18] <iain> my_haz: 1M or larger, although IIRC too large can cause problems.
[07:18] <iain> but (IIRC) the default is to process only 4k at a time or something
[07:18] <picachu> Star568:  Sorry, I have never installed to USB before. Someone said you install from ... System->... something.
[07:18]  * [mbm] notes that dding a drive is also a way to fix remapped sectors that show up in the SMART diagnostics
[07:19] <my_haz> chuckmoney: is dban its onw bootable?
[07:19] <iain> my_haz: For most uses, you can wipe the partition tables and save a lot of time.  If you're trying to erase confidential data, dd may not be secure enough (or it may), in which case research DBAN.
[07:19] <chuckmoney> picachu: you may have to plug in your drive BEFORE you boot from the CD for it to be detected.
[07:19] <vastlee> Man, next time a newb like me asks about Samba shares you guys should just tell them to search for Samba in the Add/Remove thing.  That gui in there did it all for me.  Thanks for all the help though guys, it works great.
[07:19] <my_haz> there is nothing on the drive the NSA would give to **** about, i am just being careful
[07:19] <chuckmoney> my_haz: yes, it fits on a single floppy but they have a 10MB ISO image available.
[07:19] <picachu> chuckmoney:  It's a drive that I use as if it was internal: its always plugged in
[07:20] <[mbm]> iain: if you overwrite the drive with a known value like /dev/zero then the minor variations from 0 can be used to recover the old data .. if you use a random source then it's not likely to be recovered
[07:20] <my_haz> dd will be secure enough for this
[07:20] <my_haz> thanks all
[07:21] <chuckmoney> picachu: well...just use the desktop installer icon and when it asks you to pick a drive be sure you pick your USB one.  if it's not a choice, then ask again.
[07:21] <[mbm]> any recovery of a dd'd drive will involve taking the disk apart and reading the magnetic strength on the surface of the disk, so even a /dev/zero is enough in most cases
[07:21] <picachu> chuckmoney:  I don't want to isntall to USB, I just want to edit a file in it
[07:22] <hsarkar> need some help regarding cron
[07:22] <picachu> type    man cron   ?  ^^;
[07:22]  * [mbm] wonders if any data recovery services deal with SSD's yet
[07:23] <herb> hsarkar: ask your question
[07:23] <iain> chuckmoney: If it fits on a floppy why is the ISO 10M?
[07:23] <iain> [mbm]: OK.  For a random source, is DD faster than DBAN?  For a large drive, at least DBAN has a progress bar, which is helpfus psychologically.
[07:23] <vastlee> Could anyone suggest a good file sync program?  I'd like to sync any new files I get with my usb drive.  I need one with a fairly simple gui since I'm special
[07:24] <hsarkar> http://pastebin.com/m6dd8caa0
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> rsync
[07:24] <chuckmoney> iain: I think they have to do some extra stuff for floppy emulation
[07:24] <hsarkar> I am running above script in using cron
[07:24] <[mbm]> iain: maybe, not sure what dban does .. most of the secure delete utils overwrite several times .. as for the progress bar, a dd variant called dd_rescue will show you the byte offset and speed
[07:24] <vastlee> That's a command line program though isn't it?
[07:24] <hsarkar> but the lines containing httrack dosent get executed
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> yeah, you're on linux, you should be learning all the cli you can
[07:24] <kindofabuzz> makes things even faster
[07:24] <chuckmoney> iain: and DBAN is faster at a standard 3-pass all0-'s than DD.  faster by far, mainly because of the lack of overhead from having to run a kernel, much less a full desktop.
[07:24] <[mbm]> kindofabuzz: not sure that's true anymore
[07:25] <vastlee> I certainly hope not.  If Linux wants to actually contend with an MS operating system it's going to have to continue to make strides in being idiot (me) proof.
[07:25] <herb> hsarkar: is httrack in your path? perhaps setting the path explicitly in the script would work for you.
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> [mbm], sure it is, yes ubuntu made things easier for newcomers, but the cli is still faster than opening gui's and doing things, as long as you know the commands
[07:26] <hsarkar> yes
[07:26] <euxneks> vastlee, there has been more progress in that area in the last year than microsoft has done in the past decade
[07:26] <hsarkar> I can execute the script manually from command line
[07:26] <vastlee> I agree completely, but Linux still has a long way to go.  I'm doing my best but 90% of the Linux stuff is still completely greek to me
[07:26] <kindofabuzz> !rsync | vastlee
[07:26] <[mbm]> kindofabuzz: while it's true you can do anything via the commandline, and often faster than the gui, I don't believe learning the cli is required for using ubuntu .. if someone asks for help with something like changing the resolution, there's a control panel for that .. telling them to edit xorg.conf directly is just going to scare them away from linux
[07:26] <euxneks> vastlee, it gets easier :)
[07:27] <hsarkar> herb: path is not a problem, as I have exported its path
[07:27] <kindofabuzz> [mbm], i didn't tell them to just use the cli, i just said rsync is what they want
[07:27] <euxneks> [mbm], you can't deny that a lot more options open up with CLI
[07:27] <vastlee> Encouraging :)
[07:27] <iain> [mbm]: AFAIK, DBAN is configurable how paranoid it is (can do a single overwrite), but its useful because it has an option for doing a DOD-compliant wipe, which is required in some branches of gov't
[07:27] <herb> hsarkar: try setting path in the script or use the full path... also to help you debug you can set the first line to bash -x which might expose the issue while running with cron.
[07:27] <hsarkar> rsync works fine
[07:27] <chuckmoney> kindofabuzz: AFAIK, an average user can run Ubuntu without ever touching a console.  Openoffice, Firefox, Evolution, etc, can all be operated 24/7 without use of a CLI.  If you want to start tinkering with samba then you're running a server, and anyone who goes bonkers when they open a console shouldn't be running an open deamon on their system anyway.
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Lymies: Still there?
[07:27]  * [mbm] loves the commandline, but at the same tiem I know that many people associate that with an era that passed long ago and are absolutely scared of it
[07:28] <chuckmoney> kindofabuzz: but honestly, no, CLI isn't manditory for Joe Deskclerk.
[07:28] <euxneks> vastlee, pretty much because of the way Linux is built, if you have a problem it's solvable - I find it very hard to claim the same with Windows or MacOSX
[07:28] <hsarkar> herb: where will cron logs appear in /var/log/cron ?
[07:28] <Hotshot`> anyone here have any knowledge of wubi?
[07:28] <euxneks> vastlee, OSS for the win :)
[07:28] <kindofabuzz> lol Joe Deskclerk
[07:28] <vastlee> I am actually a big fan of the entire community.  I personally think the Linux/Ubuntu community is one of the strongest testaments that altruism still exists in humans.
[07:28] <herb> hsarkar: yes.  you can set a mail to in the cron itself so it'll mail output to an account, if you want.
[07:29] <euxneks> vastlee, well that can be argued on philosophical grounds but yes, there is a lot of help out there for ubuntu users :)
[07:29] <hsarkar> herb: ok will try that
[07:29] <euxneks> :D
[07:29] <herb> Hotshot`: what would you like to know?
[07:29] <[mbm]> iain: dod doesn't wipe their disks, they put them through an industrial sized shredder and grind it down to metal fragments
[07:29] <Hotshot`> herb,  i decided to fully upgrade my ubuntu to a real partition
[07:29] <[mbm]> that's just how paranoid they are
[07:29] <Hotshot`> and found out about LVPM
[07:30] <Hotshot`> and i have no idea if its supported for 8.10
[07:30] <Hotshot`> herb, LVPM has been tested on installs created by Wubi 8.04, Wubi 7.10, Wubi 7.04, and Lubi 7.04.
[07:30] <Hotshot`> thats what it says on their page
[07:30] <euxneks> [mbm], I have a friend who works in a digital forensics lab and he says there isn't much you can do in terms of software to prevent someone from getting data from your drive
[07:30] <Hotshot`> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[07:31] <euxneks> [mbm], physics of magnets and all that :D
[07:31] <kindofabuzz> vastlee, found you a rsync gui, it's called grsync, it's in the repos
[07:31] <chuckmoney> iain and [mbm]: actually, military personel are often given laptops that they can take home with them and use off base, etc.  They use DBAN (like actual DBAN, not something that'd their own dban-equiv) to clean those laptops before re-installing a default disk image to them.  I live near the Air Force ROTC base that handles most of the Air Force's web site stuff and yeah, for their take-home laptops, they specifically use DB
[07:31] <chuckmoney> AN
[07:31] <grendal_prime> anyone know of a chess engine i can get for my kid.  hes 5 wants to play chess all the time..but he never gets to win beacuse the engins are all whipping the crap out of him..i want to get him an engine i can gear up  after he has beatten it a few times.
[07:32] <vastlee> Thanks Chief, will check it out
[07:32] <herb> Hotshot`: I haven't used lvpm before.  I suspect that it'll work fine with 8.10 just like it does with 8.04.  but I can't be sure.
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> why not just by a chess board and let him beat you?
[07:32] <eydaimon> grendal_prime: why an engine? there's plenty of people to play with online
[07:32] <kindofabuzz> buy*
[07:32] <Jordan_U> euxneks: A strong degaussing coil does the trick nicely :)
[07:32] <Hotshot`> herb,  im just afraid if it messes up
[07:32] <chuckmoney> grendal_prime: don't think there is one, since most chess engines are coded to be...well...hard.  you can try GNOME Chess and see if he can beat it on the easiest setting.
[07:32] <euxneks> Jordan_U, or a microwave probably :D
[07:32] <grendal_prime> i thought i could do that with crafty but well... eydaimon you missed the part about him being 5.
[07:32] <Hotshot`> i have done a lot of customizing in my ubuntu
[07:33] <Jordan_U> euxneks: Thermite too
[07:33] <euxneks> Jordan_U, or you could bring it to your local weather radar :)
[07:33] <Hotshot`> anyways ill give it a go.
[07:33] <Hotshot`> ill brb
[07:33] <herb> Hotshot`: stick around for a bit. maybe someone else will have input on lvpm.
[07:34] <[mbm]> euxneks: more or less true, but you can make it really really hard to recover
[07:34] <Hotshot`> herb,
[07:34] <Hotshot`> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm-screenshots/use/1.png
[07:34] <Hotshot`> it appears that i can just transfer
[07:35] <Hotshot`> if the transfer doesnt work
[07:35] <Hotshot`> then ill just wait for an official 8.10 build
[07:35] <herb> Hotshot`: you should be able to move to file off to another disk if nothing else, yes.
[07:35] <chuckmoney> euxneks: yanno, you could run the drive through dban scramble, then dban o, and then finally spend $29 on the curiously strong rare earth magnets from thinkgeek, and I'd be willing to bet your friend in the lab wouldn't find anything by next christmas.  Hard drives are actually a lot more susceptable than you might think.
[07:36] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the really secure stuff they grind up the drive
[07:36] <chuckmoney> euxneks: I have a cell phone with a very weak magnet that holds the keyboard on it.  it once killed 30 sectors in a laptop drive - with the laptop drive powered off inside the laptop.
[07:36] <Hotshot`> yeah thanks a lot herb :)
[07:36] <herb> Hotshot`: loopback files can also be mounted in ubuntu.  so you *could* convert the machine to ubuntu and mount the file to copy over all your customisations.
[07:37] <herb> mount -o loop <filename> <mountpoint>
[07:37] <karab44> Hi what's best with C++ ? Code::Blocks, Anjuta or Eclipse ?
[07:37] <Hotshot`> ill be right, booting into puppy linux live CD to change my partitions
[07:37] <euxneks> chuckmoney, I think you would be correct about the magnet part :)
[07:37] <Hotshot`> ill keep you updated herb
[07:37] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the stonge the magnet, the smaller the magnetic field is
[07:37] <herb> Hotshot`: good luck.
[07:37] <Hotshot`> ty :)
[07:38] <jerbear> what package contains rgb.txt and how do i reinstall it?
[07:38] <euxneks> chuckmoney, I think there was some software solutions that you could use to prevent them from accessing your data, but it's hard enough that not many people do it. :)
[07:38] <Flannel> jerbear: dpkg -S /path/to/rgb.txt
[07:38] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: those rare earth magnets probably won't do much sitting outside the drive, they'd need to be closer to the disk surface
[07:39] <euxneks> chuckmoney, most of the harddrives he has to actually get information from are pedophiles and sickos like that
[07:39] <[mbm]> euxneks: bet he has an interesting porn collection
[07:39] <chuckmoney> euxneks: try truecrypt.  it's fairly easy and will do "whole disk" encryption (i.e. even the OS itself) and looks like random noise until you decrypt it.  the better solution to scrambling a working drive is starting the drive off scrambled from the beginning :P
[07:40] <euxneks> in any case he comes to D&D with some fairly interesting stories :D
[07:40] <SeaOfTea> Syndaemon is great and all but I use <super>+scrolling for different short cuts.  Has anyone figured out a way to just disable tapping while typing?
[07:40] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: yes, but slows down access to the drive and the encryption can be broken given enough time and a brute force
[07:41] <jerbear> ummm... this is strange... x11-common installs /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt which is a symlink to /etc/X11/rgb.txt, which doesn't appear to be contained in any package. either way that symlink is broken on my system (intrepid)
[07:41] <chuckmoney> chuckmoney: whole disk AES-twofish-serpent takes around 12,000 years.  2,400 if you have a very large grid working in tandem.  a subpoena would be much more effective :P
[07:41] <simon_b2> anyone knows how to disable power saving on usb?
[07:41] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: there have been a few interesting cases where the encryption key was recovered from memory after the computer was turned off
[07:41] <Ryno> just installed nvidia driver, cant see anything now
[07:41] <chuckmoney> wow...not sure why I just told myself that
[07:42] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: yes but that requires literally freezing the ram within about 45 seconds.
[07:42] <jerbear> anyone else missing /etc/X11/rgb.txt?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Ryno: White screen?
[07:42] <Dany> ciao a tutti
[07:42] <Dany> !list
[07:42] <Ryno> bbblack
[07:42] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: as in coated in ice freezing, not as in BSOD freezing
[07:42] <kafle> hey, i'm trying to run the command 'chroot .' but it fails saying that /bin/bash does not exist. Can anyone please tell me why
[07:43] <Ryno> still get to the login, and can get in blind, but visually...nothin
[07:43] <nomad77> SeaOfTea: http://linuxchronicles.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/ubuntu-disable-touchpad-while-typing/ there's also ubuntu-forum posts
[07:43] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: yep, can of duster upsidedown to freeze the ram and the contents will stay there for 30 min or more
[07:43] <Jordan_U> kafle: Does the directory you are in contain bin/dash ?
[07:43] <chuckmoney> just wondering if anyone else here has an ASUS EEE 901...the custom kernel for it from Array.org somehow won't work with SHMConfig
[07:44] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: of course there are other tricks too like grabbing a copy of ram over firewire
[07:45] <haxeri> huomenta
[07:45] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: also they found that at random the key goes into SWAP space and/or the pagefile.  Good reason to just buy more ram :)
[07:45] <jerbear> i'm seeing the same behavior as this: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6020629
[07:45] <jerbear> it seems odd that /etc/X11/rgb.txt would just disappear
[07:45] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: I agree it's not perfect but truecrypt is about as close to perfect as anyone outside the NSA can probably get :P
[07:45] <Hotshot`> ok herb, i created the partitions
[07:45] <Hotshot`> starting the LVPM transfer now
[07:46] <herb> Hotshot`: excellent.
[07:46] <SeaOfTea> nomad77: That kind of the what I was saying already.  I tried syndaemon but it disables button 2-5 so none of my shortcuts work.  I just want to disable tapping, not scrolling or mouse movement or the middle or right buttons.
[07:47] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: I'd argue it's better to have several encrypted partitions rather than one whole disk encryption; leave the partitions unmounted when you aren't using them so even if some keys are recovered it's not the entire drive
[07:47] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: also think that luks under linux does just as good of a job as truecrypt
[07:48] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: have you read about the way truecrypt hides a partition within a partition.  provides plausable deniability.  works great when you mount /home/yourname inside the hidden partition :)
[07:48] <mboman> Got problem getting Ant picking up classes (jgoodies) in my /usr/share/java directory that has been installed by apt on my Ubuntu 8.04 machine.
[07:48] <kafle> Jordan_U: no, should it?
[07:48] <nomad77> SeaOfTea: maybe this?  http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6077364 bout midway down
[07:49] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: one interesting quirk of truecrypt (and probably luks) is that the passphrase is within the first 1M of the partition
[07:49] <jerbear> where in the hell is /etc/X11/rgb.txt? how could such an obvious screwup make it into intrepid?
[07:50] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: which means that an IT department can setup truecrypt with a known passphrase, backup the fist 1M of data; let the user change the passphrase -- all IT has to do then is replace the first 1M and it's back to the original passphrase
[07:51] <SeaOfTea> jerbear: 8.10 is way different, it relies on HAL.  Though I'm not sure this answers your question.
[07:51] <nomad77> jerbear: in hardy its here  /usr/share/X11
[07:51] <Ryno> help, after i enabled nvidia driver i get blank screen after reboot
[07:51] <jerbear> nomad77: no, it's a symlink to /etc/X11/rgb.txt, which is gone
[07:51] <abayomi> #join Nagios
[07:51] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: that would break the drive.  any data encrypted after the user changed his passphrase and before it reset it would be unreadable.
[07:51] <Jordan_U_> jerbear: Have you filed a bug report?
[07:52] <Jordan_U_> kafle: If you are trying to run a shell in the chroot ( which is the default if you don't specify a command to run ) then it should
[07:52] <not0ne> Can i work with apache2 on a dev. server without internet connexion ?
[07:52] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: nope, you don't understand what's actually happening
[07:52] <jerbear> Jordan_U_: i haven't
[07:52] <abayomi> #Nagios
[07:53] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the passphrase isn't used to protect the data, it's used to protect a very long key; once you have that key, the passphrase is irrlevent
[07:53] <Jordan_U> jerbear: Please do ( unless one has already been filed )
[07:53] <nomad77> jerbear: actaully its symlinked to /etc/X11/rgb.txt
[07:53] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: if you don't believe me, try it yourself ;)
[07:53] <jerbear> nomad77: yes, that's exactly what i said
[07:53] <jerbear> nomad77: which is gone
[07:53] <not0ne> please : Can i work with apache2 on a dev. server without internet connexion ?
[07:54] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: the last time someone told me "you don't understand" I became the sole server admin at that job.  you don't know me but those words spell doom for everyone who utters them to me.  I'm open to learn but tread lightly.  and FYI I have tried it.  only works with basic any-idiot-could-crack-it-by-hand blowfish encryption.
[07:54] <nomad77> jerbear: if all else fails do an updatedb then locate -i rgb.txt. or bootup live-cd and copy to install
[07:55] <Jordan_U> jerbear: emacs-snapshot-common provides a "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/etc/rgb.txt"
[07:55] <jerbear> nomad77: i have. it's not there
[07:55] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: else, with AES, it breaks the data.  only wayn to recover it is to restore what the user set it to, save a diff of every change they made, re-set it to the original, then apply the diff.  it's a pain in the butt and I spent 9 hours unable to boot a $2800 laptop just to prove that to a friend of mine.
[07:55] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: the passphrase you type in is used to recover the key; the key is then used to encrypt/decrypt the data .. with a the backup you have the key and a known passphrase
[07:56] <Ryno> help, after i enabled nvidia driver i get blank screen after reboot
[07:56] <Build-A-Bear> eyah, i just updated nvidia, and now my highest rez is 640
[07:56] <Build-A-Bear> its supposed to be 1430
[07:56] <jerbear> Jordan_U, nomad77: i've used apt-file to search for any reference to rgb.txt... no package provides /etc/X11/rgb.txt. that sounds like a problem
[07:56] <abayomi> Help, I installed kubuntu and downloaded ubuntu gnome desktop environment
[07:56] <nomad77> Build-A-Bear: rerun nvidia-xconfig?
[07:57] <abayomi> everytime I switch to gnome the computer fan stops to roll
[07:57] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: correct, but only with blowfish.  truecrypt doesn't use that method with AES, DES, Serpent, or any combination thereof.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> jerbear: Possibly the path has just changed, x11-common provides "/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt"
[07:57] <abayomi> and that makes my computhoter
[07:57] <kazim59> I'm runnng 8.04. How do I update to 8.10?
[07:57] <jerbear> Jordan_U: yes, which is a symlink to /etc/X11/rgb.txt... which is gone
[07:57] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | kazim59
[07:58] <Jordan_U> jerbear: Ahh, sorry
[07:58] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: and it wouldn't work with a combo.  if it did, then you would gain zero additional security from using multiple ciphers.
[07:58] <nomad77> jerbear: afaik its part of xorg probly xorg-server
[07:58] <kazim59> Jordan_U: also, how are updates doing for other people? Success Rate?
[07:58] <jim_p> abayomi: there is some setting in some bioses for automatic control of the cpu fan. can you check that first?
[07:58] <abayomi> Help my computer fan is not working on ubuntu
[07:58] <jerbear> nomad77: according to the package contents, it's not
[07:58] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: I've seen the trick demonstrated, although I'm not sure which cypher was used .. was a few years ago
 Help my computer fan is not working on ubuntu <- he is die ?
[07:59] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: i.e. if the passphrase decoded the key, then using AES and Serpent both would provide no extra entrophy over just AES.  only with blowfish, where the security is from running several rounds of it, does the method you describe work, and that's the only time truecrypt uses it
[07:59] <nomad77> jerbear: then must be a freedesktop.org thing
[07:59] <abayomi> I'm a newbie jim
[07:59] <abayomi> How do I check the settings
[07:59] <jim_p> abayomi: lol. does this hapen in kde as well?
[07:59] <jerbear> nomad77: what? are you kidding?
[08:00] <abayomi> But it's working on kde
[08:00] <abayomi> I have both environment
[08:00] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: *shrug* all I know is that the IT department used to pull that trick for setting up employee laptops
[08:00] <jim_p> abayomi: its a dekstop, not laptop right?
[08:00] <abayomi> It's a laptop
[08:00] <nomad77> jerbear: i can pastebin mine be a minute
[08:00] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: by all means, send me a link if you have one.  if cracking AES-Serpent is as easy as you say then I have about 35 clients I need to call tomorrow and schedule a repair for.
[08:00] <jim_p> abayomi: then its some bugus module. can you give me some more info?
[08:01] <jerbear> nomad77: that's only a bandage... this is a bigger problem
[08:01] <Build-A-Bear> nomad77: no go
[08:01] <abayomi> Well the fan is not just working
[08:01] <lain_wired> If someone replied, I may have missed it, I was distracted.
[08:01] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: it's not a generic attack, it actually requires that you have a backup of the header that uses a known passphrase
[08:02] <lain_wired> So, my issue is that ubuntu (8.10) isn't automatically detecting the connection when the modem is turned on. I have to remove and then insert the ethernet cable before it responds.
[08:02] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: which means that you need a backup of each employee's machine to pull it off
[08:02] <jim_p> abayomi: but if i dont know what hardware is there, i cant thinnk of the module!
[08:02] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: understood, but that's not that hard to achieve.  a simple DD limiting it to 1MB and knowing the old passphrase, means when people change their passphrase once a month they're accomplishing nothing.
[08:03] <abayomi> ok
[08:03] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: exactly
[08:03] <SeaOfTea> zomg I'm going to pass out
[08:03] <abayomi> My computer is HP pavilion dv9000 series
[08:03] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: which is why if this is still a bug or is a bug in AES-Serpent I would really like to know, but I've only seen this with Blowfish back on Truecrypt 4.
[08:04] <abayomi> Intel centrino duo
[08:04] <nomad77> jerbear:  http://pastebin.com/d59a04613
[08:04] <jim_p> lain_wired: remove network manager piece of junk software and use that little gnome network applet
[08:04] <lain_wired> Hullo!
[08:04] <lain_wired> Just to check, anyone seeing this?
[08:04] <Ark3kGT> yeah
[08:04] <SeaOfTea> no
[08:05] <SeaOfTea> liar
[08:05] <Ark3kGT> haha
[08:05] <jim_p> abayomi: can you also check what "services" does kde start? and compare them to gnomes
[08:05] <abayomi> How do I do that
[08:05] <abayomi> ?
[08:06] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: http://www.truecrypt.org/faq.php ".. Is there a way for an administrator to reset a volume password or pre-boot .. "
[08:06] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: yes, we're seeing it, and jim_p gave you a somewhat less-than-elegant answer too.  basically, yes, you can try remobing the GNOME network-manager but from the sound of it your problem may be larger than that.
[08:06] <Build-A-Bear> this is whacky, compiz is working, but my rez is stuck on 640
[08:06] <Ark3kGT> Hey where can I get help for a ubuntu issue? here maybe or is there a room for that?
[08:06] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: seems to state exactly as I describe it
[08:06] <herb> Ark3kGT: we might be able to help.  what's the problem?
[08:07] <Flannel> Ark3kGT: There is, you're in it.
[08:07] <lain_wired> chuckmoney, ah, well I might try ... wait, is that a typo or an actual word?
[08:07] <jim_p> abayomi: check inside your ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:07] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: typo.  removing is the actual word
[08:08] <lain_wired> I thought it might be, just best to check. :D
[08:08] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: how about a "sorry" ? :)
[08:08] <Ark3kGT> Yeah I installed 8.10 a few days ago and everything went smoothly wireless still didn't work but thats usual. however during the installation load, I noticed that in order to load the os I had to hold down a key
[08:09] <ac> I'm having trouble getting my mic to work. Any tips? Honestly I'm not even sure I have a mic, though there is a rather suspitious looking hole in my laptop
[08:09] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: still reading.  you will get an apology when it is due :P
[08:09] <SeaOfTea> Ark3kGT: you can fix that
[08:09] <Ark3kGT> how?
[08:09] <Ark3kGT> please>
[08:09] <Ark3kGT> ?
[08:09] <ac> *suspicious
[08:10] <abayomi> there nothing there
[08:10] <Flannel> Ark3kGT: You only have to push the key for it to load during install?
[08:10] <Omar87> Raising the Elephants doesn't work with me, even though it seems enabled usable. Could this be a bug worth reporting? (NOTE: I'm on 8.10)
[08:10] <nomad77> ac: i think most are part of webcam video driver
[08:10] <abayomi> Do I have to boot kde to know that
[08:11] <Ark3kGT> and after the install I must hold the key to load the OS
[08:11] <lain_wired> chuckmoney, if I remove network-manager, won't I then be unable to connect?
[08:11] <SeaOfTea> Ark3kGT: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[08:11] <lain_wired> ie, then unable to reinstall?
[08:11] <Omar87> enabled *AND* usable..
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Ark3kGT: What wireless chipset? Did you try System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[08:11] <jim_p> abayomi: no you can view it from gnome
[08:11] <ac> nomad77: my laptop does not have a camera
[08:11] <Flannel> Ark3kGT: Which key? and at what point of booting?
[08:11] <Ryno> black screened after nvidia drivers installed, help
[08:11] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: no, you can still connect.  removing network-manager simply removes the applet.  well...and it also disables "roaming mode"
[08:12] <abayomi> There is notthing in the directory
[08:12] <jim_p> abayomi: can you please do a         sudo modprobe speedstep_centrino  ?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Ryno: Do you know how to go back to the nv driver?
[08:12] <nomad77> ac: i'd check the mfr's website for docs and/or driver info
[08:12] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: you might also want to try going to System > Administration > Network and change your ethernet adapter from "roaming mode" to "DHCP"
[08:12] <lain_wired> Hm, okay.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Ryno: And how did you install the nvidia driver?
[08:12] <chuckmoney> lain_wired: then if that fails, remove network-manager.
[08:13] <ac> nomad77: do you really need a driver for a /microphone/?
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> My computer won't even load the OS unless I press a key on my keyboard and hold it down until the orange ubuntu loading line completes an entire cycle. This also happened with the installation CD, although my laptop was fine with Hardy
[08:13] <ac> nomad77: the sound works fine
[08:13] <nomad77> no idea then hmm
[08:13] <lain_wired> chuckmoney, just as a sidenote, it was set to loopback, rather than ethernet. I can't say I'm entirely sure why.
[08:13] <blackgraz> anyone know of a simple CLI program to transcode avi to DVD image file (bin)
[08:13] <Ryno> Jordan, long story short, i bricked my laptop earlier, all i had was 7.04, upgraded to 7.10, it picked up the nvidia onboard so i installed, rebooted and now black
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> My system:
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> HP Compaq Presario V6719NR Notebook PC
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> Amd64 Athlon X2
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> Nvidia Graphics
[08:13] <Ark3kGT> Atheros Wireless Card
[08:13] <FloodBot1> Ark3kGT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <Ark3kGT> sorry for the flood
[08:14] <SeaOfTea> Ark3kGT: try adding pci=noacpi to the end of kernel line
[08:14] <abayomi> Jim it works when I try to install some package
[08:14]  * SeaOfTea test
[08:15] <Ryno> so it prompted me saying restricted drivers can be used so i installed it
[08:15] <Ark3kGT> SeaOfTea: am the pinnacle of noob so I am kinda not understand
[08:15] <jim_p> abayomi: :| like when the cpu revs up its speed?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Ryno: You can get to a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+F1, from that terminal log in and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[08:15] <Ark3kGT> and wouldn't that have adverse affects
[08:15] <Iron_Blood> Hi all
[08:16] <jim_p> abayomi: please call me as jim_p , it makes my taskbar blink and me to look at xchat
[08:16] <Iron_Blood> Could I get someone default sources.list for 8.10 desktop edition. I mess up mine.
[08:16] <Iron_Blood> :(
[08:16]  * Debolaz ponders if he'll be able to play high resolution h264 in ubuntu.
[08:16] <[mbm]> Debolaz: nvidia card?
[08:17] <Debolaz> [mbm]: Yes.
[08:17] <[mbm]> Debolaz: you saw the press release earlier today?
[08:17] <Debolaz> [mbm]: No?
[08:17] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: Well...I stand partially corrected.  Apparently, for this to work, the Administrator has to use Truecrypt itself to backup the header, hence dd wouldn't work, and I'm willing to bet it will require the Administrator to enter the passphrase once to verify it too.  So yes, an IT guy could do this, but no, it's not an open vulnerability because you'd have to be able to successfully mount the truecrypt volume before you c
[08:17] <chuckmoney> ould copy the header.
[08:18] <[mbm]> Debolaz: it was on slashdot and a few other sites; nvidia has released a new api which rumor has it can do hardware h264 decoding
[08:18] <Debolaz> Interesting..
[08:18] <Debolaz> Still, most likely won't help me today.
[08:18] <[mbm]> chuckmoney: I've seen it done with dd :/
[08:18] <Debolaz> If I just could get CoreAVC to run.
[08:18] <chuckmoney> [mbm]: So...sorry, I guess.  I won't be calling clients but a few of them use other people to manage their work networks so I will certainly let them know to double-check what their other Techs are doing for them.
[08:19] <Debolaz> I've gotten to the point where xine-lib will try to load the decoder, but it just segfaults. Without even so much as a core file to look at.
[08:19] <Iron_Blood> Could I get someone get me the default /etc/apt/sources.list for 8.10 desktop edition. I mess up mine.
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Debolaz: Why are you using xine?
[08:20] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: Because I couldn't get mplayer to compile with the patch.
[08:20] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: I'm going to spend some time trying to get it to run with mplayer today though.
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Debolaz: Which patch?
[08:20] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: The patch for CoreAVC.
[08:20] <lain_wired> Oh hey, I forgot, there was one other issue.
[08:21] <lain_wired> My webcam is working fine currently, except that the image is too long (and just to test, I held a CD up, and the CD is longer than it is wide.)
[08:21] <lain_wired> Mostly I'm looking to adjust this?
[08:22] <Hotshot`> herb,  it worked!
[08:22] <Debolaz> Jordan_U: Afaik, mplayer can't load the win32 CoreAVC decoder without it.
[08:23] <herb> Hotshot`: awesome. glad to hear it.
[08:23] <Debolaz> I'll have a look at the nvidia thingibang too though.
[08:24] <Hotshot`> now I just have to go ahead and move all my documents from old windows partition to new ubuntu one
[08:24] <Hotshot`> delete wubi installation on windows
[08:25] <Build-A-Bear> fixed it by copying over an old xorg
[08:25] <Hotshot`> and do another partition edit and fix the new aprtitions
[08:25] <Build-A-Bear> 8.10 def has some major nvidia probs tho
[08:25] <Build-A-Bear> and they aint nvidia's fault :P
[08:25] <herb> Hotshot`: the first two parts shouldn't be too bad.
[08:25] <[mbm]> Build-A-Bear: ati problems too, although those are ati's fault
[08:26] <Build-A-Bear> [mbm]: i was never impressed by ati
[08:26] <Build-A-Bear> yay i got my ttys back too
[08:26] <[mbm]> Build-A-Bear: I decided to give them another chance shortly after they announced all the opensource stuff .. big mistake
[08:26] <Build-A-Bear> cool
[08:26] <Hotshot`> yeah its easy
[08:27] <owen1> i thought the new gimp has only one window..i just upgrade my ubuntu and my gimp looks the same. why?
[08:27] <[mbm]> Build-A-Bear: even stupid stuff that I didn't think could break, broke .. every time I try running mythtv my whole desktop goes scrambled before the mythtv menu even shows up
[08:28] <[mbm]> (and that's without compiz or any effects)
[08:28] <Hotshot`> Just going to be a long process moving all my music
[08:29] <chuckmoney> Build-A-Bear: nvidia-glx-new + twinview + compiz = houtrs and hours staring at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:29] <Iron_Blood> mbm: what are you guys talking about?
[08:29] <phillip_> hi! hmm, is there some GUI for Vmware  on Ubuntu ?
[08:29] <chuckmoney> Build-A-Bear: EnvyNG Nvidia Driver + Twinview + compiz = awesome
[08:29] <[mbm]> Iron_Blood: I was just saying the ati driver is crap
[08:29] <Iron_Blood> aww kk
[08:29] <chuckmoney> Build-A-Bear: so it's basically all about the driver.  The Envy drivers, for whatever crazy reason, seem to work miracles.  At least for NVidia.
[08:30] <[mbm]> Iron_Blood: although if you know how to fix it I'd love to know
[08:30] <[mbm]> phillip_: yes.
[08:30] <Flannel> !nickspam > supremeWarlock
[08:31] <phillip_> [mbm]: oh? I downloaded vmware and would prefure to do configuration via a GUi?
[08:31] <WIGGMPk> how much of an improvement over Hardy is Ibex?
[08:32] <Iron_Blood> mbm: I would love to tell you if I knew how
[08:32] <Omar87> I tried to install Python 2.6, and after that, something wrong seems to have occurred. My mouse started to transform into a plus-shaped ( + ) cursor and the system reboot started act a little bit strangely, Exaile media player doesn't start.. I'd be honored if you guys help me fix this. Thanks.
[08:32] <navap> If I wanted to install a nice small http server, what would be some recommended options? Anyone have a link to a useful comparison?
[08:32] <[mbm]> phillip_: the vmware installer asks you a few text questions, but after installed, vmware is a gui
[08:32] <cafuego> WIGGMPk: vmware doesn't support that
[08:32] <gigel2006> How can I enable a 3d desktop and spin it around like I see in some youtube videos? (my ubuntu desktop only has 2 faces)
[08:32] <cafuego> gigel2006: Enable the cube plugin
[08:32] <WIGGMPk> cafuego: think you wanted phillip_
[08:32] <cafuego> WIGGMPk: I did too
[08:33] <gigel2006> cafuego: how and where ?
[08:33] <phillip_> [mbm]: oh intresting, thanks all :)
[08:33] <ArkoldThos> gigel2006: what ubuntu are you using?
[08:33] <gigel2006> ArkoldThos: 8.10
[08:33] <[mbm]> gigel2006: set the pager (thing at the bottom corner of the screen by the trash) to 4 desktops and enable the compiz desktop cube effect
[08:33] <Debolaz> Humm... the process to install nvidia drivers manually in ubuntu certainly seemed hairy.
[08:33] <ArkoldThos> navap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_web_servers
[08:33] <Iron_Blood> Is it me? Or is it always hard/difficult to set up email server on ubuntu or any linux distro
[08:33] <phillip_> another question, i found after upgrading kernel's to the new intrpid, wireless adapter is no longer working, yet under hardware devices it is listed there? yet drop down of networking shows no wireless network. however inside network manager the wireless is not greyed out to add? anyone experience this?
[08:33] <ArkoldThos> there is a comparation
[08:34] <gigel2006> [mbm]: how do I set it to 4 ?or enable the compiz cube effect?
[08:34] <ArkoldThos> gigel2006: i say because I read that 8.06 had a bug that compiz and gnome wasn't in 'sync' with the number of desktops
[08:34] <ArkoldThos> so, enable the compiz cube effect
[08:34] <ArkoldThos> they should now be in sync
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> if it just shows 2 faces on the cube
[08:35] <[mbm]> Debolaz: process isn't too bad, most of the hairy stuff is just disabling the one that comes with ubuntu
[08:35] <navap> ArkoldThos: That doesn't really tell me much other then their development language and software license.
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> add the other 2 desktops
[08:35] <Omar87> I tried to install Python 2.6, and after that, something wrong seems to have occurred. My mouse started to transform into a plus-shaped ( + ) cursor and the system reboot started act a little bit strangely, Exaile media player doesn't start.. I'd be honored if you guys help me fix this. Thanks. (I'm using Ubuntu 8.10)
[08:35] <laobing> have redcora core 5?
[08:35] <gigel2006> ArkoldThos: how do I enable it ?
[08:35] <Debolaz> Good thing I have a laptop here so I can still troubleshoot effectively on the web if things explode in my face.
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> gigel2006: you need to install compizfusion-effects-config or smth package, use apt-cache search compiz config
[08:35] <[mbm]> gigel2006: pager -> right click -> properties -> workspaces = 4 .. for the desktop cube it might help if you isntall ccsm and click the desktop cube option in ccsm
[08:35] <ArkoldThos> navap: well, i like lighttpd =)
[08:36] <laobing> Redcora Core 6?
[08:36] <phillip_> anyone having issue with vpnc and creating pptp connections inside ubuntu intrpid?
[08:36] <ArkoldThos> aww, i am outdated :P i dont use ubuntu
[08:36] <Neremor> i've a problem with wine
[08:36] <ArkoldThos> i use kubuntu :(
[08:37] <Neremor> I would like to run a .NET based program using wine, but i get the following error message:
[08:37] <gigel2006> [mbm]: ArkoldThos: oh ok thanks a lot guys!
[08:37] <Neremor> The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/home/jonathan/.wine/drive_c/Programme/ImoConnect/).
[08:37] <navap> ArkoldThos: How does one choose, they all seem to have all the same features
[08:37] <Neremor> and wine is telling me something about microsoft visual basic ver <IP_ADDRESS>.0.0 ;) one line above
[08:37] <gigel2006> Does anyone know if TOR is in the repositories? I tried apt-cache search tor and got thousands of entries
[08:37] <ArkoldThos> navap: well lighttpd is used in youtube, sourceforge, the pirate bay, etc etc
[08:37] <ArkoldThos> and is quite very light
[08:37] <ArkoldThos> and fast
[08:37] <Neremor> i've read that i have to install mono but i already installed many mono packages
[08:37] <ackbahr> Hello everyone! I had two partitions on my HD, and when I removed one I damaged something with GRUB (error 22). I know there is a working menu.lst on the partition that remains (it was the original config of the computer), how can I (from live CD of course) use this menu.lst? Thanks!
[08:37] <Flannel> !info tor | gigel2006
[08:37] <navap> ArkoldThos: Good enough for me :)
[08:38] <ArkoldThos> wikipedia, meebo and other sites also use lighttpd
[08:38] <[mbm]> gigel2006: tor is in there somewhere, might be in universe
[08:38] <dovel> Neremor: have have you tried crossover etc for something a bit more robust than wine?
[08:38] <Flannel> navap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:38] <ArkoldThos> navap: and here a real comparation sorry about the other :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_server_software
[08:38] <Neremor> no
[08:38] <Neremor> i thought crossover isn't free?
[08:39] <gigel2006> [mbm]: yes it says in component universe, how do I install that ?
[08:39] <navap> Flannel: I want to break the pattern and not go for the A in LAMP :b
[08:39] <ArkoldThos> Neremor: one day it was
[08:39] <Flannel> navap: Any particular reason/
[08:39] <Omar87> I tried to install Python 2.6, and after that, something wrong seems to have occurred. My mouse started to transform into a plus-shaped ( + ) cursor and the system reboot started act a little bit strangely, Exaile media player doesn't start.. I'd be honored if you guys help me fix this. Thanks.
[08:39] <ArkoldThos> apache isn't lightweight :o
[08:39] <[mbm]> gigel2006: synaptic -> settings -> repositories; click universe
[08:40] <navap> Flannel:  I've always used it, wanted to try something new, and am running ubuntu in virtualization so want to try and keep stuff as light as possible
[08:40] <dovel> Neremor: I also found that wine-doors was awesome for making sure that things were installed properly - dependencies and the like
[08:40] <ArkoldThos> well going to sleep
[08:40] <ArkoldThos> gn
[08:40] <dovel> making sure that everything is installed well could solve your problems
[08:40] <gigel2006> [mbm]: sorry for being a total noob but where is synaptic
[08:40] <navap> Goodnight
[08:40] <woody86> can anyone help me to make my screen resolution work? Its not under the options
[08:40] <[mbm]> gigel2006: menu at the top - system -> administration -> synaptic
[08:41] <navap> gigel2006: Might just be system>synaptic
[08:42] <gigel2006> [mbm]: synaptic package manager?
[08:42] <[mbm]> gigel2006: yep
[08:43] <gigel2006> if I click repositories I get the server windows, etc.
[08:44] <[mbm]> gigel2006: menu at the top of synaptic - settings-> repositories
[08:44] <Neremor> hm i've seen the program i try to run several times running with nothing else than wine
[08:44] <gigel2006> [mbm]: yes it didnt work but ok I just did a search for TOR and found it in the main synaptic wondow
[08:44] <Neremor> i'm sure i just have to install some packages
[08:45] <gigel2006> [mbm]: THANKS!
[08:47] <dovel> Neremor: wine-doors is a package designed to make installing things on wine easy - it can help you install anything that your application may depend on
[08:48] <dovel> Neremor: it can make instaling basic windows functions really easy
[08:57] <jim_p> !sensors
[08:58] <Saroset> Okay, I need a little help installing.
[08:59] <Saroset> Windows Boot manager: Windows failed to start.
[09:00] <Saroset> I get that message when I try to select anything other than Windows, loading from CD.
[09:00] <gigel2006> Could not display /etc/privoxy/config, HOW can i veiw these files in GUI ?
[09:02] <jim_p> gigel2006: gedit /etc/privoxy/config
[09:02] <gigel2006> jim_p: yes that's the command I was looking for
[09:02] <gigel2006> jim_p: THANKS
[09:03] <helpme> can i get some help connecting to me vnc server please? :)
[09:03] <jim_p> gigel2006: keep in mind that you wont be able to edit it as it is
[09:03] <gigel2006> jim_p: ya with sudo I know :)
[09:04] <majnoon> what is the official name now ??
[09:04] <kanhiya78> will anyone tell me why my computer hangs during installing real player packages and my cpu usage goes to 100%
[09:04] <kanhiya78> and i had to emergency shutdown
[09:04] <[mbm]> majnoon: intrepid?
[09:05] <helpme> can i get some help connecting to me vnc server please? :)
[09:05] <kanhiya78> i did same thing three time and got same thing
[09:05] <majnoon> not sure am checking
[09:05] <majnoon> downloading the iso now
[09:05] <[mbm]> majnoon: not sure what your question was
[09:06] <kanhiya78> anybody listening to me
[09:06] <majnoon> intrepid is the latest offial version ??
[09:06] <[mbm]> majnoon: yep
[09:06] <majnoon> *official
[09:07] <kanhiya78> hey anybody please tell me how to select all the packages using apt on cd
[09:07] <robacarp> can someone with gutsy installed help me `locate dpkg-gettext.pl` .... its a long story, but I lost mine
[09:07] <kanhiya78> anybody have answer?
[09:08] <kanhiya78> 1269 people in the room but nobody is answering me
[09:08] <[mbm]> majnoon: here's a hint; the release numbers look like this: 8.10 .. the 8 means 2008 and the 10 means october .. each release also has a name like intrepid ibex, these names are a simple alphabetical order and the next release will have a name starting with j
[09:08] <joot> kanhiya; Please be patient   I do not know but why do not use the online option???
[09:11] <Hotshot`> kancerman,
[09:11] <Hotshot`> oops
[09:11] <Hotshot`> kanhiya78,
[09:12] <Hotshot`> what do you need mate?
[09:12] <Omar87> I tried to start Exaile from the terminal, and it gave me this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72269/
[09:12] <Omar87> Please, help.
[09:12] <kanhiya78> Hotshot`: : i tried to install real player and downloaded .deb file but package manager stopped responding and i was not able to close him also my CPU usage increases to 100% and it was not coming down and i had to do emergency shutdown after waiting for five minutes
[09:12] <LCF> Omar87 I will help you
[09:13] <LCF> !ask
[09:13] <Omar87> LCF: I didn't ask to ask a question. I asked for help after I posted my problem. ;-)
[09:14] <kanhiya78> package manager stopped responding while installing real player for linux
[09:14] <Hotshot`> can you try installing it again?
[09:14] <kanhiya78> yes but same result
[09:14] <Hotshot`> hmm
[09:14] <Hotshot`> hold on
[09:15] <Omar87> I tried to start Exaile from the terminal, and it gave me this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72269/ Please help.
[09:15] <Saroset> Little help installing? I keep getting the error: Windows failed to start. I'm not sure why the unbuntu installer is considered windows =[
[09:16] <LCF> omar87 try "sudo exaile"
[09:16] <medc> one question i have a file 150 Mb and i need to compress really down.....what do you recomend?????
[09:16] <kanhiya78> Hotshot`: are you there?
[09:16] <Hotshot`> yes kancerman  read your PM
[09:19] <Saroset> Anyone?
[09:19] <mariusp> Hi all, does anyone know if usplash works with hibernate? In the configuration file (/etc/hibernate/common.conf) I only see options for bootsplash.
[09:19] <spairo> hi guys!
[09:20] <spairo> www.hitechlinux.es.tl
[09:23] <sat_804> hello i have an interesting problem here.  I have to know where is the list of all the items in the places menu.  I want to map a windows drive on my ubuntu 8.10 machine and i would like to know how can i create a shortcut from my places menu to my desktop.  I have the share in my places menu but when I right click on it I don't get the "send this item to desktop " option
[09:23] <Sertse> anyone tried making an iso out of thier currently installed system?
[09:23] <ditch64> i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, aaaand it deleted my Nvidia drivers, any idea where i can get drivers for a Geforce 8800 GTS
[09:23] <Omar87> LCF: I just tried sudo exaile, and it gave me the exact same output. And when I keep trying to invoke it, the mouse curson takes the plus ( + ) shape, and completely stops responding to my clicks.
[09:23] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, when you update the new install you will get the drivers that work, they weren't there for the release
[09:24] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: what do you mean?
[09:24] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, you said you just installed 8.10? have you ran the update yet?
[09:24] <BulBulRed> network-manager: how do you start this from the command line?
[09:25] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: i get an error screen now that says i gotta resolve the issue
[09:25] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: and i dont think i can get to the normal os
[09:25] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, huh?
[09:25] <sat_804> to make my query clear I want to create a kind of soft link to the item in the places menu on the desktop.  like for example i did ln -s ~/Documents mydocuments in the desktop folder.  but I don't know where are all the other items i mean where is the path
[09:25] <kindofabuzz> oh low graphic mode?
[09:25] <ditch64> ya
[09:25] <ditch64> but it wont go to low graphics mode
[09:26] <kindofabuzz> just go into low graphics mode and do an update of the system
[09:26] <ditch64> it says wait one minute while we restart the server x
[09:26] <ditch64> but nothing happens
[09:26] <kindofabuzz> ctrl alt bckspace
[09:26] <Omar87> I tried to install python 2.6, and something went wrong. The mouse keeps going out of control, Exail and Emesene don't start.. The update manager is acting weird. Please help me.
[09:26] <ditch64> well i just restarted the computer so im gonna see if it goes now
[09:26] <dc> Hi There, I am new to Linux and would like to know, if there is a web gui based client for XDCC Fetching like Torrentflux for Torrents?
[09:27] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: nope same thing
[09:27] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, just go into low graphic mode and update
[09:27] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: i would if it would actually go into it
[09:28] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, give it a minute then if nothing, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:28] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: ahh this is aggrevating, i did ctrl alt back and nothing
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, or mess with those other options
[09:29] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: lol i would but idk what im doing there
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> what do you have? i forget
[09:29] <ditch64> Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> you won't hurt nothing, it's already messed up
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> no i mean what options do you have right now
[09:29] <ditch64> its soon to be softmodded to a quadro 4400
[09:30] <ditch64> oo
[09:30] <ditch64> ummmmm
[09:30] <ditch64> i just restarted, give me a second
[09:30] <kindofabuzz> it's linux man, no need to restart
[09:30] <ditch64> haha well when i get a blank screen with no options
[09:30] <kindofabuzz> well, yeah you may have had to with that
[09:30] <dc> Anyone got a suggestion for an web based gui client for XDCC fetching (like Torrentflux) ?
[09:31] <BulBulRed> network-manager: how do you start this from the command line with SUDO in GNOME ?
[09:31] <kindofabuzz> sudo network-manager?
[09:31] <BulBulRed> doesn't work..
[09:31] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: it gave me the option to restore it to default, well see how that works
[09:31] <kindofabuzz> yeah try that
[09:31] <BulBulRed> network-manager-gnome is installed and working, i can start it from the Systems>administration menu
[09:32] <kindofabuzz> sudo network-manager-gnome
[09:32] <BulBulRed> BUT any changes result in read-only.. i want to start it thrue CLI with SUDO
[09:32] <kindofabuzz> sudo network-manager-gnome
[09:32] <ditch64> im upgrading this computer, at the moment, so well see im gonna let this config file stay the same
[09:32] <Omar87> I tried to install python 2.6, and something went wrong. The mouse keeps going out of control, Exail and Emesene don't start.. The update manager is acting weird. Please help me.
[09:32] <kindofabuzz> gksudo network-manager-gnome
[09:33] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, uninstall it?
[09:33] <joot> Kinofabuzz: it is listed as   NetworkManager  in apropos
[09:33] <BulBulRed> doesn't work.. i don't see any command for network*
[09:33] <BulBulRed> and dpkg tells me: network-manager, network-manager-gnome, network-manager-kde is installed
[09:33] <TarBar> Can anyone help me? sites like google and ask.com take about a minute to load. or don't load at all. i have tried using the guides that speed firefox up to no avail. Any help?
[09:34] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: the problem is, it doesn't even appear to have been installed.
[09:34] <BulBulRed> TarBar: using a (slow) proxy?
[09:34] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, type python --version
[09:34] <TarBar> Nope no proxy
[09:34] <Frogzoo> TarBar: disable ipv6
[09:34] <TarBar> i have
[09:35] <joot> BulBulRed: it is listed as NetworkManager  in apropos
[09:35] <harvey> Hi people, I just installled the new 8.10 and I cant play DVDs, can anyone direct me to a good site tutorial, Ive already googled it and that hasnt helped. Much thanks.
[09:35] <BulBulRed> hmm sudo NetworkManager doesn't start anything
[09:36] <kindofabuzz> harvey, http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-play-dvd-under-ubuntu-linux
[09:36] <BulBulRed> but he asked me to be root, so it def is installed
[09:36] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: what exactly am i suppose to update
[09:36] <histo> !dvd | harvey
[09:36] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: like where am i going to find it?
[09:36] <TarBar> Any ideas :S?
[09:36] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, what do you mean?
[09:36] <harvey> thanks ubottu and kindofabuzz
[09:36] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: the driver that it wants me to install, is whats causing this
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, did you get into the system yet?
[09:37] <Frogzoo> TarBar: in firefox: about:config you set network.dns.disableIPv6;true
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: ya
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, system > administration > update manager
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: says its current
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> assuming you're on gnome
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> did you hit check?
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: ya im on gnome, and yes i hit check
[09:37] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: i JUST upgraded the computer so its current files
[09:38] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, so no 3d is that what you're saying?
[09:38] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: yup
[09:38] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: no fancy stuff, its basically why i use it haha not to mention that its the most stable OS ive ever used
[09:39] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, run glxinfo | grep direct
[09:40] <TarBar> Yes Frogzoo i did do that
[09:40] <Saroset> How... Do I get rid of the Windows Boot Manager?
[09:40] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: umm what kinda result was i suppose to get from that
[09:40] <kindofabuzz> ditch, a yes or a no
[09:40] <jim_p> !nagios
[09:41] <ditch64> i got Xlib: Extention GLX missing on display o:o
[09:41] <BulBulRed> jim_p: i have some nagios experience.. there is also a channel called #nagios on this server i think
[09:41] <ditch64> 0:0
[09:41] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: it said that like 20 times in a row and i only entered it once
[09:41] <TarBar> Froogzoo but its weird because its only slow at times and other times its fast
[09:41] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, ok
[09:42] <BulBulRed> TarBar: could be your network
[09:42] <jim_p> BulBulRed: thanks. its about a friend of mine. he gets an email that the server is down every 30 seconds. can he make it like once a day intill he fixes the problem?
[09:42] <BulBulRed> try monitoring or speed tests
[09:42] <Frogzoo> TarBar: maybe that particular site has a dns problem?
[09:42] <BulBulRed> try another browser if you think it's FireFox..
[09:42] <jim_p> !sound
[09:43] <gomer> Anyone here got a clue on bluetooth headsets?
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, sorry i don't anything else to do now. i just know the basics of vid card drivers, i'm sure someone else here can help though. google is your friend too =)
[09:43] <TarBar> Not my network i'm dual booting between ubuntu and windows windows is fine and ive tried google,youtube,ask.com,wikipedia.org etc and sometimes they load fast sometimes not at all or very slow.
[09:43] <platius> hmm I wonder what ditch64 sees with System > Administration > Hardware Devices?
[09:43] <BulBulRed> jim_p: you can find that information in the configuration files of that specific server
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> platius, good idea
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> lol
[09:43] <ditch64> kindofabuzz: for sure thank you very much
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> ditch64, System > Administration > Hardware Devices
[09:44] <platius> too late
[09:44] <kindofabuzz> activate your driver if it's there
[09:44] <jim_p> BulBulRed: so it is a server problem? ok thanks
[09:44] <kindofabuzz> is he gone?
[09:44] <kindofabuzz> oh well
[09:44] <BulBulRed> jim_p: if you get a message every 30secs telling "server down" and it really is down
[09:44] <platius> kindofabuzz;  nice try
[09:44] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I'm trying to get the output for "python --version", but it takes some time get it. Now, if press ctrl-c during that and try "python --version" again it does give me the completely output instantly, but then it takes the mouse away from me, in a way that my clicks are no more effective, I can no longer do anything at all but moving the cursor or hitting ctrl-alt-back space on the keyboard.
[09:44] <BulBulRed> jim_p: that means that you configured a check to run every 30 seconds and notification
[09:45] <BulBulRed> jim_p: you can change the notification frequency
[09:45] <jim_p> BulBulRed: ok thanks
[09:45] <TarBar> Could it be a MTU problem?
[09:45] <BulBulRed> jim_p: check documentation: http://www.nagios.org/docs/
[09:45] <BulBulRed> search for "notification" and "object configuration"
[09:45] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, open up Synaptic and search for python, if you see that 2.6, uninstall it
[09:45] <Omar87> Note: My writing is way much better than that but I was just in a hurry. Please excuse me. :)
[09:46] <woody86> how can I swap over so I use KDM by default, rather than GDM?
[09:46] <BlueEagle> Why would Xmail attempt to listen on port 79 (back orifice)
[09:46] <BlueEagle> ?
[09:46] <kindofabuzz> woody86, install kde-desktop, then at the gdm you choose kde instead of gnome
[09:46] <kindofabuzz> oh i read wrong
[09:46] <kindofabuzz> lol
[09:47] <TarBar> ):
[09:47] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I tried that, moments ago. Python 2.6 doesn't even exist there.
[09:47] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, don't know what to tell you really, sorry
[09:47] <Gabbsmo> Hi. I am new to linux. I've been testing PCFluxboxOS for a while now, but I don't like it that much. There is a lot of stuff in it that I don't need or want. I've been thinking of a alternative install (with flubox and so on) of Ubuntu 8. But will my PC be slow the the debian core? Specs: Pentuim III 733Mhz, 256MB RAM, Geforce MX 32Mb.
[09:47] <woody86> kindofabuzz, I have them both installed already, but I was doing something while it was installing, and when that window popped up I accidentally authorized it to use GDM
[09:47] <jim_p> BulBulRed: thanks
[09:48] <BulBulRed> np
[09:48] <BlueEagle> woody86: have you attempted to dpckg-reconfigure the package?
[09:48] <ziroday> Gabbsmo: you can go with fluxbuntu, but its not really designed for systems that weak
[09:48] <BlueEagle> -c
[09:48] <CorpseFeeder> HELP!!! I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now I keep getting an annoying nag about "couldn't detect graphics card correctly... blah blah blah... you need to configure this manually.. yada yada yada... running in low graphics mode.. etc..." And then it boots normally and all supported screen modes work perfectly, the graphics card appears to be detected correctly and gnome is not running in low res mode at all... yet the stup
[09:48] <kindofabuzz> woody86, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, choose kdm
[09:48] <kindofabuzz> then reboot
[09:49] <rOoNy911> Is there an easy way to have sound on a YouTube vid and movie at the same time? :(
[09:49] <woody86> kindofabuzz, ok, thanks :)
[09:49] <ziroday> rOoNy911: which version of ubuntu?
[09:49] <DIFH-iceroot> rOoNy911: yes, start a youtube video and a movie at the same time
[09:49] <kindofabuzz> flash takes over sound
[09:49] <rOoNy911> ziroday the newest one
[09:49] <DIFH-iceroot> kindofabuzz: not for me
[09:50] <ziroday> rOoNy911: so 8.10, intrepid ibex?
[09:50] <rOoNy911> yeah :D
[09:50] <rOoNy911> im new to linux :s
[09:50] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I'm trying installing python-all. Maybe this might help.
[09:50] <BlueEagle> rOoNy911: You will need to use a software sound mixer for that to work if it doesn't work out of the box as far as I know.
[09:50] <kindofabuzz> DIFH-iceroot, well it used to be that way, may have changed with flash 10
[09:50] <ziroday> rOoNy911: intall the package flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[09:50] <kindofabuzz> or that =)
[09:50] <rOoNy911> ziroday: mmmmk
[09:50] <ziroday> BlueEagle: not true
[09:50] <DIFH-iceroot> kindofabuzz: i am using 8.04 and flash is != 10
[09:50] <rOoNy911> ziroday: from synaptics?
[09:50] <BlueEagle> rOoNy911: ie. hardware mixing is detected for most soundcards, but when they are not you'll have to set up a software solution.
[09:50] <ziroday> rOoNy911: yep
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> DIFH-iceroot, you should get 10, much much better
[09:51] <rOoNy911> thanks a lot fellas :D
[09:51] <rOoNy911> how do i quote someone in IRC?
[09:51] <Adamant> not very ... chatty ..
[09:51] <kindofabuzz> copy paste
[09:51] <DIFH-iceroot> kindofabuzz: less cpu-usage?
 how do i quote someone in IRC?
[09:51] <rOoNy911> I mean like ziroday: Hello or something
[09:51] <ziroday> !tab | rOoNy911
[09:51] <BlueEagle> ziroday: Well then I guess it's just me who can't get it working.
[09:52] <ardchoille> rOoNy911: type their nick
[09:52] <ziroday> BlueEagle: what version of ubuntu?
[09:52]  * kindofabuzz this?
[09:52] <Adamant> i just started,  this is deeply convusing ..
[09:52] <Adamant> .. confusing ..
[09:52] <rOoNy911> ahhh mk
[09:52] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: Isn't it weird that Ubuntu supports Python 3.0, but doesn't seem to support Python 2.6?
[09:52] <BlueEagle> ziroday: Last time I tried was gutsy.
[09:52] <rOoNy911> Omar87: Not really?
[09:52] <ziroday> BlueEagle: ah okay, well if you are using hardy or intrepid there are packages you can install which try to fix it
[09:52] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, yeah i noticed that when you started talking about it, i looked it up, 2.5 and 3.0 in repos but no 2.6
[09:52] <Adamant> attention rawr ...
[09:52] <rOoNy911> Omar87: wouldn't the newer releases support more OS's?
[09:52] <Adamant> sigh.
[09:53] <ziroday> Adamant: do you have a question we can help you with?
[09:53] <rOoNy911> Adamant: Yes?
[09:53] <musikgoat> Adamant: if you have a question, just put it out there, its a support channel, otherwise, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <Adamant> how would i expand my ubuntu partition without losing other files ?
[09:53] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, 2.5 is all you need right now
[09:53] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: Could it be because 3.0 is more mature?
[09:53] <rOoNy911> Adamant: I wanna know that as well.
[09:53] <BlueEagle> ziroday: I will try putting ubuntu back on my main box then. I've been dabbling with arch on it for a while.
[09:53] <Adamant> earlier my xp crashed like 6x so i said .. " go die "
[09:53] <kindofabuzz> AdmiralNDP, gparted
[09:53] <kindofabuzz> Adamant, gparted
[09:54] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, not sure
[09:54] <Henning> Question: When my computer boots up, it doesn't go into GNOME, but stays in the terminal instead. Now what do I do?
[09:54] <ziroday> Henning: any errors?
[09:54] <SeaOfTea> Adamant: with a live cd gparted is included
[09:54] <Adamant> theres no way .. ?
[09:54] <CorpseFeeder> my graphics card is ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000... Ubuntu 8.10 is having some problem with it during boot up, but it works perfectly once the gnome desktop loads.. What on earth is going on with 8.10?
[09:54] <kindofabuzz> Henning, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:54] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: That's true. I've learned my lesson. :)
[09:54] <Adamant> wow my chat is glitchy..
[09:54] <BlueEagle> Henning: Which installation method did you use?
[09:54] <Henning> ziroday: None that I know of, although Intrepid is sorta dodgy so far
[09:54] <Adamant> like 15 lines at a time instead of .. 1 ..
[09:54] <ziroday> Henning: okay, you can try type in startx to see if it errors out
[09:54] <Henning> I installed from the LiveCD without booting into Ubuntu first
[09:55] <kindofabuzz> Henning, then once in gnome or whatever, go to services and make sure gdm is checked
[09:55] <Henning> what is GDM?
[09:55] <Adamant> i downloaded 8.4 then mounted in daemon tools and installed
[09:55] <BlueEagle> Henning: That means that you probably have the alternate install cd.
[09:55] <Adamant> and sudo isnt working, do i have to do something special ?
[09:55] <kindofabuzz> Henning, the thing you don't have, graphical display manager
[09:55] <Adamant> it keeps asking for a password..
[09:55] <BlueEagle> Henning: log in with the username you created and install gnome-desktop
[09:55] <Henning> No, I used the LiveCD
[09:55] <Henning> and it ran GNOME for a few days
[09:56] <kindofabuzz> Adamant, use your password
[09:56] <Henning> but then I rebooted and this happens
[09:56] <ziroday> Henning: did startx give you any errors?
[09:56] <Adamant> sigh.
[09:56] <BlueEagle> Henning: It supports installing off the bat now?
[09:56] <DIFH-iceroot> who to see the vesion of a program (not installed) with apt-get?
[09:56] <DIFH-iceroot> how
[09:56] <montamer> hi which package contain groupadd, useradd commands???
[09:56] <ziroday> BlueEagle: yes
[09:56] <Henning> blueeagle, pretty sure, yeah
[09:56] <Yondering> hello.. is there an updated version of sun java6 for ibex yet?  mine's still hanging quite regularly..
[09:56] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: For some reason, the mouse keeps going out of control. It keeps taking the shape of a plus sign ( + ).
[09:56] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[09:56] <RizR> Setup dual monitor with ATI/Ubuntu/fglrx?
[09:56] <BlueEagle> Henning/ziroday: Good. I didn't know that (either). I feel like I'm lagging behind here. :)
[09:56] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, that's weird, just from installing 2.6? which has nothing to do with graphics or mice
[09:57] <kindofabuzz> Omar87, have you tried restrting X?
[09:57] <kindofabuzz> ctrl -alt bckspace
[09:57] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: How do I do that?
[09:57] <BlueEagle> RizR: Define two devices, monitors and screens in xorg.conf and set the orientation in server layout.
[09:57] <Henning> ziroday, wasn't there some sort of keystroke to change from the window manager to the terminal interface?
[09:57] <kindofabuzz> or log out
[09:58] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: I tried that many times.
[09:58] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: thx
[09:58] <ardchoille> Henning: ctrl+alt+f1
[09:58] <ziroday> Henning: you mean ctrl alt F7 to go to the graphical area?
[09:58] <CorpseFeeder> does anyone here know anything about reconfiguring graphics to avoid errors at boot up at all?
[09:58] <RizR> BlueEagle: did you have experience with it?
[09:58] <Henning> ziroday, mnaybe
[09:58] <nathanael> hello
[09:58] <CorpseFeeder> HELP!!! I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now I keep getting an annoying nag about "couldn't detect graphics card correctly... blah blah blah... you need to configure this manually.. yada yada yada... running in low graphics mode.. etc..." And then it boots normally and all supported screen modes work perfectly, the graphics card appears to be detected correctly and gnome is not running in low res mode at all... yet the stup
[09:59] <rOoNy911> ziroday: theres no flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound in synaptics :(
[09:59] <BlueEagle> RizR: Not with ati, but it's driver independent iirc.
[09:59] <nathanael> I am having trouble with my Broadcom wireless, and
[09:59] <Omar87> kindofabuzz: Is there a way to regain control over it from the terminal?
[09:59] <BlueEagle> RizR: However xinerama and glx weren't best of pals last I checked.
[09:59] <ziroday> rOoNy911: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[09:59] <BlueEagle> !broadcom | nathanael
[09:59] <Henning> ziroday, nope, it just gives me an empty black screen with a blinking cursor
[09:59] <nathanael> lspci doesn't seem to work, as running lspci -H1 shows the wireless , but lspci -H1 doesn't
[09:59] <rOoNy911> ziroday: Thanks :D
[09:59] <RizR> BlueEagle: I'm trying to setup using big desktop. Found couple of to-the-point how tos that claim to work but they just dont for me :-)
[10:00] <CorpseFeeder> my graphics card is ATI Radeon RV250 Mobility FireGL 9000... Ubuntu 8.10 is having some problem with it during boot up, but it works perfectly once the gnome desktop loads.. What on earth is going on with 8.10? This error every time it boots is very annoying.....
[10:00] <rOoNy911> ziroday: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:00] <rOoNy911> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:00] <BlueEagle> RizR: Did you copy and paste or did you read and understand?
[10:00] <ziroday> rOoNy911: close synaptic first :)
[10:00] <rOoNy911> ziroday: o_O
[10:00] <Saroset> Can someone please help me dig myself out of this mess I'm in?
[10:00] <rOoNy911> ziroday: lol ok thanks
[10:00] <ziroday> Henning: okay, go back to the terminal and type in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:00] <ziroday> Saroset: we need to know the mess to help you
[10:00] <histo> CorpseFeeder: what is the error?
[10:00] <BlueEagle> !anyone | Saroset
[10:00] <nathanael> I do not know if this problem is related to the new kernel (2.6.27 ) or not, as lspci would show the wireless card in ubutnu hardy
[10:01] <histo> !ask | Saroset
[10:01] <rOoNy911> ziroday: cameron@cameron-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Reading package lists... Done
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Building dependency tree
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Reading state information... Done
[10:01] <rOoNy911> Package flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:01] <FloodBot1> rOoNy911: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <rOoNy911> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:01] <RizR> BlueEagle: read and understood mostly. Copied when could becuase cant copy everything.
[10:01] <BlueEagle> RizR: Ok, and at what point did it not work?
[10:01] <histo>  05:01:43 up 54 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.08, 0.31
[10:01] <RizR> BlueEagle: ok. could you define "server layout orientation" please?
[10:01]  * histo ugh power outage
[10:01] <Saroset> Holy hell, I've asked questions already. Right now, I have a computer with no boot manager that is trying to load over a network. This started when no one would tell me how I can use or get rid of the Windows boot manager because it wouldn't let me install.
[10:01] <ziroday> rOoNy911: pastebin :). what does lsb_release -a say?
[10:02] <BlueEagle> RizR: I'll see if I can find a how-to. ;)
[10:02] <nathanael> sudo lspci -H1 gives me this: 30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02), but lspci doesn't show the wireless card when run without the -H1 option
[10:02] <histo> Saroset: what are you trying to install?
[10:02] <yao_ziyuan> how do i bring Home, My Computer, etc. to Desktop?
[10:02] <darkbishop_> i cant retract rar file... its said un supporter something.... what should i use beside achive manager
[10:02] <Henning> ziroday, it says * starting GNOME display manager, gives an okay and goes right back to the console prompt
[10:02] <CorpseFeeder> histo: I can't say word for word what the error is cos it is during boot up and I can't copy/paste it. but the jist of it is "graphics card not detected correctly. .. running in low graphics mode.. you need to configure it manually".. then it boots up normally and there are NO graphics problems and it is NOT running in low graphics mode.
[10:02] <Saroset> Kubuntu.
[10:02] <BlueEagle> RizR: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/howto/Set+Up+Dual+Monitors+-+xorg.conf is the setup I am thinking about
[10:02] <ziroday> Henning: okay, switch to the graphical area (ctrl+alt+f7)
[10:02] <Saroset> Which doesn't matter at the moment. If I can find a camera this will become easier.
[10:02] <Henning> ziroday, does this mean gnome is already running but I'm still stuck in the console?
[10:02] <RizR> BlueEagle: one of three things happens: 1. it just clones desktop. 2. crashes x server. 3. who screen comes as unrecognizable horizontal lines.
[10:03] <Henning> ziroday, empty black screen
[10:03] <darkbishop_> !rar
[10:03] <rOoNy911> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72282/
[10:03] <histo> Saroset: so when you try to install kubuntu you are getting errors?
[10:03] <solarbaby> Ubuntu is more supportive then my underwear
[10:03] <histo> CorpseFeeder: well then I wouldn't worry about it but you can try looking in dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[10:03] <BlueEagle> RizR: Now, the bus-ids you need to alter ofcourse. Other than that it should work.
[10:03] <ziroday> rOoNy911: what did the output of lsb_release -a say?
[10:03] <Saroset> histo, I cant even get to the install yet.
[10:03] <RizR> BLueEagle: on right now my server layout says: Section "ServerLayout"
[10:03] <RizR>         Identifier     "aticonfig Layout"
[10:03] <RizR>         Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]-0" 0 0
[10:03] <RizR> EndSection
[10:03] <FloodBot1> RizR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:03] <rOoNy911> ziroday: Pardon? :s
[10:04] <BlueEagle> RizR: Now, again. It's not always xinerama works well with *glx
[10:04] <ziroday> Henning: odd, so gdm and x is started but nothing appears?
[10:04] <histo> Saroset: okay why not... I'm sorry I missed your original problem. I caught something about you are trying a network install?
[10:04] <Henning> yuo
[10:04] <Saroset> histo, I deleted my boot manager and windows partition while tinkering.
[10:04] <Henning> *yup
[10:04] <histo> Saroset: okay.
[10:04] <ziroday> rOoNy911: can you pastebin the output of the command lsb_release -a
[10:04] <BlueEagle> !paste
[10:04] <RizR> BlueEagle: how do I find bus ids for my card?
[10:04] <histo> Saroset: do you have physical access to the machine?
[10:04] <Saroset> Yup.
[10:04] <CorpseFeeder> histo: I'd love to not worry about it, but I have to click through about 3 error confirmation screens every damned time I boot the computer.. it sucks. I need to find out how to stop this bogus error nagging me every time. it is frustration x 10000
[10:04] <rOoNy911> ziroday: Ive no idea what GDM is let alone lsb_release
[10:05] <Omar87> I'm facing this error after a failed attempt to install Python 2.6 from source: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72269/ Please help.
[10:05] <ziroday> Henning: but it has a blinking cursor?
[10:05] <histo> CorpseFeeder: ahh its a pop window when X loads? Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:05] <Henning>  ziroday, when I press alt+ctrl+f1 to get back into the console, it says there that there was a fatal server error (no screens found)
[10:05] <ThomasD> hi
[10:05] <Henning> ziroday yes, there is a cursor
[10:05] <ThomasD> can anyone tell me how I can get a list of all upgradable backages with apt-get?
[10:05] <CorpseFeeder> histo: ok... hold on
[10:05] <ThomasD> packages*
[10:05] <ziroday> rOoNy911: when you type in lsb_release -a what version of ubuntu does it say you are using?
[10:05] <histo> Saroset: and do you need to recover your windows partition? Or are you just trying to install kubuntu alone.
[10:06] <roony911> ziroday: Ah! Mk
[10:06] <ziroday> Henning: um, okay. So your xorg hasn't started?
[10:06] <BlueEagle> RizR: lspci
[10:06] <ardchoille> ThomasD: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:06] <Saroset> histo, at this point neither of those seems possible. I'd prefer to just get kubuntu installed though.
[10:06] <RizR> ah. obvious. thanks.
[10:06] <roony911> ziroday: It says 8.04 but im sure i downloaded 8.10 last nite :S
[10:06] <BlueEagle> RizR: For me it's 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[10:06] <histo> Saroset: do you have a kubuntu cd?
[10:06] <Saroset> histo, yes
[10:07] <ziroday> roony911: right, you need to install libflashsupport for hardy :)
[10:07] <histo> Saroset: then boot the kubuntu cd.
[10:07] <Gullstad> I'm having problem with videomultimedia on ubuntu. The sound and video is unsynced, and it's really slow playing videos, or watch steams on internett. My computer ain't using all the ram or cpu power when this is happening. The graficcard was supported by ubuntu, and is installed.
[10:07] <BlueEagle> RizR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/72284/ drops a few unneccessary (how is that spelt) modes that you'll never use anywys.
[10:07] <RizR> BlueEagle: mine's 01:00.1...just use it in this format?
[10:07] <Saroset> histo, that's the problem. There's nothing to boot it.
[10:07] <Henning> ziroday, yes
[10:07] <remoteCTRL> what is actually new in intrepid?
[10:07] <ThomasD> ardchoille: no, that upgrades all packages
[10:07] <BlueEagle> RizR: that would be PCI:1:0:1
[10:07] <jim_p> !sound
[10:07] <ziroday> !notes | remoteCTR1
[10:07] <histo> Saroset: your bios controls what the machine trys to boot first. Not the boot manager on the physical hard drive.
[10:08] <Henning> ziroday, and for some reason my num lock key is active :)
[10:08] <roony911> ziroday: u legend :D
[10:08] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: thabks man
[10:08] <BlueEagle> RizR: or something like that.
[10:08] <ardchoille> ThomasD: it also returns a list of everything that can be upgraded
[10:08] <ThomasD> ardchoille: I only want to know which ones are upgradable, dont want to upgrade em
[10:08] <CorpseFeeder> histo: the log contains http://paste.ubuntu.com/72286/
[10:08] <ziroday> Henning: ouch confusing, any specific errors it gives as to why x was not started?
[10:08] <RizR> BlueEagle: sorry to be annoying. How did you convert from 01:00.1 to 1:0:1?
[10:09] <Saroset> histo, my bios seems to hate me.
[10:09] <BlueEagle> RizR: drop the first of each double digit
[10:09] <Henning> ziroday, well just the no screens found thingy
[10:09] <histo> Saroset: why is that? can you change the boot sequence?
[10:09] <Darwin-LTS> hello I accidentally deleted the "start" bar which is located at the bottom of the screen, I attempted to create a new one but windows won't get minimized to it, how can I create it back
[10:09] <natschil> can somebody please help me with my Broadcom wireless card and intrepid. I am running it on a hp Compaq 6715 laptop. Windows Vista uses the wireless card fine, but when I run lspci, it is not found. only if I run lspci -H1, I get this output 30:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02). I think it might be related to the new kernel. Can somebody please help?
[10:09] <BlueEagle> RizR: I think PCI:1:00:1 would work too, but I haven't tried that.
[10:10] <Saroset> histo, yes. I've moved everything up, down, on, off, and it seems to make no difference at all in the behaviour.
[10:10] <RizR> alright. let me try.
[10:10] <BlueEagle> natschil: Did you read the link ubottu gave you?
[10:10] <ardchoille> Darwin-LTS: you need to add the aplet "window list" to the panel
[10:10] <histo> natschil: has it ever worked? And I believe for the broadcomm cards you need the firmware
[10:10] <RizR> thanks for the help :)
[10:10] <ziroday> Henning: okay, can you edit your xorg.conf. Go to the Device Section and replace Driver "something" to Driver "vesa"
[10:10] <histo> Saroset: well you would make the cdrom first then the hard drive second etc.... Then save the configuration.
[10:10] <Henning> ziroday, i forgot where the xorg.conf is located
[10:10] <BlueEagle> !broadcom > natschil
[10:10] <ziroday> Henning: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:10] <DIFH-iceroot> hm, why there is a adobe flash 10 in the repos? i though there would be never an upgrade in the repos, just fixes?
[10:11] <histo> Saroset: Why do you think you deleted your windows partition?
[10:11] <Darwin-LTS> ardchoille, way to go, thanks
[10:11] <Darwin-LTS> just did it
[10:11] <ardchoille> Darwin-LTS: yw :)
[10:11] <natschil> yes, it worked in hardy BlueEagle: The problem is not related to the driver, but to the fact that lspci usually doesn't find the card, even though it found it in hardy
[10:11] <histo> Saroset: do you want to join #ubuntu-classroom theres a little less chat in there it would be easier to follow.
[10:11] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: In intrepid flash 10 is included
[10:11] <Saroset> histo, sure.
[10:11] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: in 8.04 also
[10:12] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: ah sorry, I misread your question
[10:12] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday:    500 http://archive.canonical.com hardy/partner Packages  there is adobe flash 10
[10:12] <Neurolysis> Hey guys, I have just been trying to install 8.10, but I keep on getting 'I/O error' on the cd, so i have went to 8.04 which is working, except when i go to install it says the following:
[10:12] <histo> Saroset: let me know when you are there. you can /j #ubuntu-classroom
[10:13] <CorpseFeeder> histo: so... was there anything of importance in my Xorg.0.log file ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/72286/
[10:13] <Neurolysis> (initramfs) [115...] ata1.00: revalidation failed errono=-5
[10:13] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: flash 10 is included in hardy-backports, but not in the normal hardy repos
[10:13] <idanm> Hello, Is there a way to control the entire screen's brightness instead of a single element (window, dock, etc...) ??
[10:13] <Neurolysis> status: {DRDY}
[10:13] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: ok dont know that the repo is a backport-repo
[10:13] <BlueEagle> natschil: Does the fact that lspci doesn't list the device without a parameter void the rest of the guide?
[10:13] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: i thought it is the normal partner-repo
[10:13] <natschil> BlueEagle: what do you mean?
[10:14] <Neurolysis> And then it says 'exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[10:14] <ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: the canonical repo is maintained by canonical. Not by ubuntu.
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: errr those release notes mainly list known issues, i.e. bugs, is that all that is new in intrepid?:D
[10:14] <idanm> Anyone ?
[10:14] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: ok i thought its the same
[10:14] <Neurolysis> idanm: You've got to be patient.
[10:14] <DIFH-iceroot> ziroday: like suse and novell
[10:14] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: gimme a sec
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: sure, thanks
[10:15] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: you want this http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/beta
[10:15] <BlueEagle> natschil: -H1 just uses a different way of accessing the devices.
[10:15] <idanm> Neurolysis K, just thought nooneaw my Q.
[10:15] <histo> CorpseFeeder: hrm.. no I would try searching the forums
[10:15] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: but remember, its only a very, very brief overview.
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: looks better though, thanks
[10:15] <Neurolysis> idanm: You're not the only one waiting for a response, just be patient :)
[10:16] <xrhstaras66> Help
[10:16] <BlueEagle> natschil: Now you may have some luck making yourself a member of the group that the device belongs to, but other than that if lspci -H1 can find it then the kernel can too.
[10:16] <idanm> Neurolysis: I said OK ;-)
[10:16] <xrhstaras66> !help
[10:16] <BlueEagle> natschil: Now, be aware that I have never used a broadcom device so the fact that lcpci's standard method doesn't find it might prevent the drivers from working, however I don't think it would.
[10:16] <PerSeL> hello can someone link me a guide how do i open those archive files i prefer to install openoffice 3 and not getting the 2.x from sudo apt-get
[10:17] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 , "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:17] <BlueEagle> PerSeL: Which are "those" archive files?
[10:17] <BlueEagle> PerSeL: are they .tar.gz or somesuch?
[10:17] <natschil> BlueEagle: Doesn't lspci use the kernel to find the devices?
[10:18] <PerSeL_> y how do i make it as a program
[10:18] <PerSeL_> like you know just install the 3rd version of openoffice
[10:18] <BlueEagle> natschil: It does, but also -H1 just uses a different method of accessing hardware that requires root privileges. The kernel does have root privileges.
[10:18] <ziroday> Perlboy: let me get a link for you, one sec
[10:18] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 , "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:18] <BlueEagle> PerSeL: If you do not know how to unpack an archive I do not recomend you attempt to compile OOo from source.
[10:18] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 cd for installation or live  ,it says "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:18] <media> What program could i use to long on to a windows computer
[10:18] <CorpseFeeder> why am I getting an error about graphics card detection at all when it works fine after boot up? aaaarrghhh!!!
[10:18] <PerSeL> BlueEagle: now i know how to unpack
[10:19] <BlueEagle> !build-sessentials | PerSeL
[10:19] <ziroday> PerSeL: you need to add this repo to get get OpenOffice.org 3 https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[10:19] <BlueEagle> !build-sessential | PerSeL
[10:19] <PerSeL> but i want to make it as program and those files in archives or extracted
[10:19] <BlueEagle> hmm..
[10:19] <natschil> is there a way to tell the kernel to use -H1 by default?
[10:19] <xrhstaras66> Help can't boot ubuntu 8.10 cd for installation or live  ,it says "APERTURE SIZE" AND THEN FREEZES
[10:19] <macvr> hi all... i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[10:20] <media> sorry what program could i use to log on to a windows computer at anouther house
[10:20] <BlueEagle> !build-essential | PerSeL
[10:20] <BlueEagle> there we go.
[10:20] <DIFH-iceroot> media: vnc
[10:20] <CorpseFeeder> HELP!!! I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now I keep getting an annoying nag about "couldn't detect graphics card correctly... blah blah blah... you need to configure this manually.. yada yada yada... running in low graphics mode.. etc..." And then it boots normally and all supported screen modes work perfectly, the graphics card appears to be detected correctly and gnome is not running in low res mode at all... yet the stup
[10:20] <natschil> what is also strange, is that one time when I booted lspci did show me broadcom device, and jockey told me there were restricted drivers available, but the internet wasn't working, so I couldn't download them
[10:20] <BlueEagle> !attitude CorpseFeeder
[10:21] <media> thank u i had it installed could not rember name
[10:21] <BlueEagle> I'm totally missing the factoids today. :/
[10:21] <CorpseFeeder> :)
[10:21] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: nvidia?
[10:21] <BlueEagle> !attitude | CorpseFeeder
[10:21] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: ATI
[10:22] <macvr> hi all...does anyone know where the font config is saved? i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... so does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[10:22] <yeryry> ah, dunno then.. I fixed that warning (and only getting low res) by removing a second Device entry from xorg.conf
[10:23] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: maybe I have a second device in xorg.conf too?
[10:23] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: maybe? Have a look..
[10:23] <Henning> ziroday, finally I've managed to edit the xorg.conf. now what do I put in there?
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> hmmm seem as if there is not much new in intrepid..
[10:23] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: I get the warning about only low res, but I don't actually get low res when it loads GDM
[10:24] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is the default Ubuntu kernel a tickless one?
[10:24] <yeryry> CorpseFeeder: yeah.. If its similar to what I had then I guess its failing to load the bad one and loading the good one
[10:24] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: where do I find the Xorg.conf file?
[10:25] <yeryry> erm /etc/X11/ or something
[10:25] <busfahrer> CorpseFeeder: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <treefolk> CorpseFeeder: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:26] <PerSeL> to run windows mobile file in ubuntu i need emulator?
[10:26] <treefolk> ;P
[10:27] <CorpseFeeder> yeryry: the file is empty (apart from ## comments and section start/ends)
[10:27] <edlv> how do i play .ape files?
[10:28] <macvr>  hi all...does anyone know where the font config is saved? i seem to have lost ALL the font settings i had set in the appearances font tab... but i have a backup of my system... but i dont know where the font config is saved... so does anyone know where the font config is saved?
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> errr with hwat command do i invoke an upgrade to intrepid?
[10:30] <CorpseFeeder> my xorg.conf file contains no configuration data... this could be my problem - how do I "fill" it?
[10:30] <ziroday> !upgrade | remoteCTRL
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> ziroday: kk thanks
[10:30] <ziroday> Henning: sorry, I had to pop out. In Section "Device" what does Driver say?
[10:30] <busfahrer> Excuse me, is the default Ubuntu kernel a tickless one?
[10:31] <ziroday> busfahrer: I believe so
[10:31] <madduck> what package do I need to install to allow grip to convert to mp3?
[10:31] <Henning> ziroday, section device says Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[10:31] <madduck> or is there a better ripper you would suggest for me (well, my cousin) to use?
[10:31] <pengo> how do i check my cpu power management settings (laptop)
[10:31] <pengo> it used to be in the power management before i upgraded to 8.10
[10:32] <ziroday> Henning: it should say Driver "something"
[10:32] <ziroday> Henning: somewhere in there
[10:32] <RizR> BlueEagle: no luck. X server crashes. error is no screens found.
[10:32] <eightyeight> madduck: lame won't handle it?
[10:32] <Henning> ziroday, it doesn't
[10:32] <ziroday> madduck: convert what to mp3?
[10:32] <madduck> ziroday: CDs ripped
[10:32] <Henning> ziroday, the whole file is awfully short
[10:32] <madduck> eightyeight: I can't find lame in its recommends or suggests
[10:32] <ziroday> Henning: okay add a line that says Driver "vesa"
[10:32] <ziroday> madduck: um, can't use sound juicer?
[10:32] <freex> hi all
[10:33] <ziroday> Henning: in that section
[10:33] <madduck> ziroday: sure, would you suggest that instead?
[10:33] <ziroday> madduck: sound juicer, it rips and can convert cd's to mp3's
[10:33] <Henning> ziroday, now it won't let me type anything
[10:33] <madduck> that's what I want. Just install and no multiverse stuff needed?
[10:33] <ziroday> Henning: how did you open it?
[10:34] <ziroday> madduck: you probably need the mp3 codecs
[10:34] <Henning> ziroday I'm using vi
[10:34] <madduck> ziroday: what are they called and where do I get them? I do not have an Ubuntu system and need to tell my cousin how to do it on hers...
[10:35] <aboSamoor> I am running make depend, it gives errors for .c files so i have to change them to .cc. Although it was compiled in the first time ???
[10:35] <eightyeight> madduck: if you're going to be ripping mp3, you'll need the encoder out of multiverse. i don't know of a 'free' one
[10:35] <madduck> eightyeight: okay, this makes sense. Could you please suggest one that will work with sound-juicer?
[10:35] <saykou> any one knoes how to use wubi
[10:36] <eightyeight> madduck: i don't rip mp3s, but if i were, i would probably turn to sound-juicer and lame.
[10:37] <bazhang> !mp3
[10:37] <eightyeight> madduck: i use sound-juicer for flac and ogg, and it works great
[10:37] <denysonique> Kamil: Hi
[10:37] <ziroday> Henning: you have to open it as root with sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <denysonique> Kamil: How can I help you?
[10:38] <madduck> eightyeight: my cousin's ipod cannot play ogg or flac so those are of no use to her
[10:38] <Henning> ziroday, that's what I did. I'm in vi, looking at the file, but when I try typing, it does weird stuff
[10:38] <eightyeight> madduck: understood. i'm just showing my support for sound-juicer
[10:38] <ziroday> madduck: sorry was away, the instructions bazhang gave you will do the trick
[10:38] <Sertse> hi guys, I finished setting up my desktop.. is there a easy to copy the whole thing over to my laptop?
[10:38] <madduck> bazhang: thanks!
[10:39] <ziroday> Henning: try open it with nano. Do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <bazhang> madduck, you're welcome
[10:39] <Henning> ziroday, okay, how do I quit vi without saving?
[10:39] <PerSeL> what program i need to open .rar file?
[10:39] <dr_willis> esc :q!
[10:39] <CorpseFeeder> anyone got any more thoughts on my graphics nag screen error at boot up and empty xorg.conf file problem?
[10:39] <dr_willis> !rar | PerSeL
[10:39] <ziroday> Henning: :q! I believe
[10:39] <Sertse> saving me the need to install, remove the apps, do my customisation etc again on the 2nd comp.
[10:40] <bazhang> Sertse, you want to clone?
[10:40] <Kamil> Hey guys, i just installed kubuntu on this comp but i cant get internet to work on it, it works only on xp. Can any1 help me ?
[10:40] <Sertse> probably, if that's its called.
[10:41] <bazhang> Kamil, open a terminal and type ifconfig ; how many entries
[10:41] <bazhang> !cloning | Sertse
[10:41] <Henning> ziroday, done. what now?
[10:41] <denysonique> Kamil: yeah boot ubuntu, login as root
[10:41] <Melik> hey guys i have a quick question, would anyone be willing to help me out in private message?
[10:41] <Kamil> ok
[10:41] <denysonique> Kamil: and then do ifconfig
[10:41] <kemalist> hello
[10:41] <denysonique> Kamil: and save the results
[10:41] <bazhang> denysonique, Kamil use sudo not root
[10:41] <eightyeight> Sertse: there isn't an "easy" way, but there are options available. checkout clonezilla
[10:41] <ziroday> Henning: okay, save, quit and do startx again
[10:42] <kemalist> I have a problem, i checked forums, but it seems peculiar to me
[10:42] <NicEXE> I enabled the bycubic filter on compiz-fusion and I can't see any component (buttons etc.) How to disable the bycubic filter using the root terminal?
[10:42] <kemalist> my new notebook freezes randomly
[10:42] <denysonique> Kamil: type: sudo ifconfig
[10:42] <kemalist> with kernel panic, while loading X
[10:42] <Henning> ziroday, again, fatal error, no screens found
[10:42] <Sertse> thanks :)
[10:42] <Kamil> thanks guys
[10:42] <denysonique> Can someone explain why you have sudo su, not just su in ubuntu?
[10:43] <ziroday> Henning: argh. Do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:43] <kemalist> cause you will never know root's password
[10:43] <kemalist> :P
[10:43] <bazhang> denysonique, you dont want to use sudo su; only sudo
[10:43] <eightyeight> denysonique: because the sudo is superior to su
[10:43] <bazhang> !sudo
[10:43] <Melik> Hey you know the menu bar at the top left, I go to Places > Home and it gives me this error message: Could not open location 'file:///home/melik' No application is registered in handling this file
[10:43] <NicEXE> I enabled the bycubic filter on compiz-fusion and I can't see any component (buttons etc.) How to disable compiz-fusion using the root terminal?
[10:43] <Melik> how can i fix this?
[10:43] <bazhang> NicEXE, what is bycubic filter
[10:43] <ziroday> Melik: let me get a link for you
[10:44] <eightyeight> denysonique: btw, you should be doing 'sudo -i' instead of 'su -'
[10:44] <denysonique> eightyeight: ie?
[10:44] <denysonique> eightyeight: superior?
[10:44] <Melik> thank you ziroday :)
[10:44] <histo> NicEXE: just hit alt+f2 in gnome and type in metacity --replace and hit enter
[10:44] <epiclulz> hey any of you guys read the two kevin mitnick books?
[10:44] <brrrrrradical> could somebody help me with encoding videos for my ipod classic 6g? i cannot get an ffmpeg  to work for me on intrepid
[10:45] <eightyeight> denysonique: ie: 1) it logs. 2) it's granular for giving access to commands. 3) it discourages logging in as root
[10:45] <bazhang> epiclulz, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:45] <ziroday> Melik: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/10/intrepid-update-faq.html read point 12)
[10:45] <NicEXE> histo: I will boot with recovery mode and select root terminal... There si now GUI methode
[10:45] <epiclulz> thanks
[10:45] <NicEXE> *is
[10:45] <NicEXE> *no
[10:45] <Henning> ziroday, I ran that command and startx'ed, it seems to be working
[10:45] <ziroday> Henning: great
[10:46] <bazhang> brrrrrradical, what command are you using with ffmpeg
[10:46] <Henning> ziroday, this means that from now on it'll run fine?
[10:46] <NicEXE> histo: I will boot with recovery mode and select root terminal... There is no GUI methode
[10:46] <ziroday> Henning: should do
[10:46] <Kamil> Hey, how do i open the terminal ?
[10:46] <histo> NicEXE: You would have to edit xml files in your home I believe.
[10:46] <brrrrrradical> bazhang: i have been trying to use a gui: both thinliquidfilm and winff
[10:46] <ziroday> Kamil: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[10:46] <histo> NicEXE: I just explained a gui method
[10:46] <Henning> ziroday, alright, great. thanks for your help!
[10:47] <ziroday> Henning: sorry it took so long
[10:47] <PerSeL> i downloaded from rarlab rarlinux 3.8 how do i install this archive to use it as a program?
[10:47] <pengo> how do i check my cpu power management setting?
[10:47] <Melik> yay thanks ziroday, it works now
[10:47] <histo> NicEXE: you don't need to be able to see to type. Just hit alt+F2 and type in "metacity --replace" without the quotes and hit enter.
[10:47] <ziroday> !rar | PerSeL please read the instructions in here
[10:47] <bazhang> PerSeL, no need; install from repos
[10:47] <Henning> ziroday, ain't no thang. :) thanks a lot anyway
[10:47] <slaxaxe> hi room....
[10:48] <PerSeL> bazhang: so how do i use the program?
[10:48] <Henning> ziroday, and have a nice day
[10:48] <Henning> cheers!
[10:48] <ziroday> Henning: you too
[10:48] <PerSeL> bazhang: i have file to unpack using rar
[10:48] <depape> some of our clients upload files to our server via ftp, now I am running a cron script to process these files, is there a way to know if "the files are completly uploaded"? every hint is welcome
[10:48] <Melik> today i am officially a linux user
[10:48] <slaxaxe> anyone familiar with Gnome-Do ?
[10:48] <bazhang> PerSeL, did you install the package?
[10:48] <ziroday> slaxaxe: yes, whats wrong?
[10:48] <PerSeL> bazhang: which one? so i guess none
[10:49] <depape> can i use something like is_file_in_use()? to detect if this file is still uploading?
[10:49] <bazhang> PerSeL, likely the one listed in the !rar link above
[10:49] <tARrAScH> Hello! How can I enter this menu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Screenshot-GNOME_Keyring.png Was that menu removed in 8.10, since I can't seem to find it
[10:49] <Kerpal> How does one setup a formula for the summation of a fraction such as index=0 count=4 1/(k^2+1)
[10:49] <PerSeL> bazhang well i read it but i guess didn't understood which one?
[10:49] <Kerpal> oops
[10:50] <Kerpal> wrong chan
[10:50] <gavimobile> folks i just did a clean install of ubuntu, and i want to install my graphics card properly... if i enable my restricted driver, AND i use envy to install my nvidia driver, would that be a bad idea?
[10:50] <bazhang> PerSeL, once it is installed you can just right click extract
[10:50] <slaxaxe> ziroday: when I click on the icon in the menu / panel... Gnome-Do doesn't start... where as when I run it in terminal with sudo gnome-do ... it runs... only after taking password.... I tried using the same thing on the panel.... "run application in terminal" ... the terminal opens and asks for password.... please tell me how to run it normally....
[10:50] <bazhang> gavimobile, what version of ubuntu
[10:50] <PerSeL> bazhang: so what i type: sudo apt-get install XXX?
[10:51] <gavimobile> 8.04 and im updating now to the 8.10
[10:51] <bazhang> PerSeL, yes, once the correct repos are enabled
[10:51] <Annirak> My CPU fan is on full blast after a fresh install of 8.10-server.  I need to get it to enable fan scaling.  I've attempted to install lm-sensors, but all the howtos I found were years out of date.  What do I do?
[10:51] <PerSeL> bazhang: so how it called so i can search for it
[10:51] <tARrAScH> gavimobile, I've heard envy is always bad to use :s, I think that would be what ubottu says, try !envy
[10:51] <bazhang> gavimobile, in intrepid there will be no need for that envyng
[10:52] <bazhang> gavimobile, just go to hardware drivers
[10:52] <gavimobile> so the restriced driver is good enough
[10:52] <ziroday> slaxaxe: in the terminal does typing gnome-do make it start?
[10:52] <gavimobile> it seems when i install the restricted driver.. then alot of time my movies are choppy
[10:52] <gavimobile> my video
[10:52] <brrrrrradical> could somebody give me a rundown on how i can convert videos to mp4 for my ipod...
[10:53] <ziroday> brrrrrradical: you can use avidemux
[10:53] <PerSeL> bazhang: i just type in terminal... sudo apt-get install rar
[10:53] <gavimobile> or ffmpeg
[10:53] <CorpseFeeder> since my problem is unsolvable, what is the easiest way to downgrade from 8.10 to 8.04?
[10:53] <slaxaxe> ziroday: no it doesn't start...
[10:53] <brrrrrradical> ziroday: mmmk ... but do you?
[10:53] <bazhang> PerSeL, if you read the link
[10:53] <brrrrrradical> gavimobile: ffmpeg would be my choice if i could get it to work
[10:54] <bazhang> PerSeL, unrar
[10:54] <gavimobile> brrrrrradical, once you install it, you might want to read the manual
[10:54] <brrrrrradical> gavimobile: thnx for that ;)
[10:54] <PerSeL> bazhang: thanks
[10:55] <gavi> brrrrrradical, i wish i could be more detailed... what i did was i searched for sample commands
[10:55] <PerSeL> how do i run windows mobile program?
[10:55] <kongove> hello
[10:55] <gavi> i changed the file name and the bitrate of the sample commands and it worked for me!
[10:55] <bazhang> PerSeL, which app
[10:55] <PerSeL> igo
[10:55] <kongove> Is there anybody use git-send-email?
[10:55] <gavi> PerSeL, is that a windows application?
[10:55] <kongove> I can't find this command. in 8.10
[10:55] <slaxaxe> ziroday: I found this when I run gnome-do in terminal "Failed to create directory /home/human/.local/share/gnome-do: Access to the path "/home/human/.local/share" is denied."
[10:55] <PerSeL> windows mobile application
[10:56] <gavi> PerSeL, so check the wine website if its compatable
[10:56] <PerSeL> it won't run in windows only in windows mobile
[10:56] <tARrAScH> How do I remove my password for GNOME Keyring, I don't want to enter it every session anymore
[10:56] <gavi> if not you might want to look in to vbox
[10:56] <brrrrrradical> gavi: ok, i will look into it. cheers :)
[10:57] <gavi> brrrrrradical, also someone posted above a gui which can do it... but i havent found a good gui for converting multimedia in linux yet
[10:57] <rien-ne-va-plus> hi everyone
[10:57] <kongove> Hello
[10:57] <brrrrrradical> gavi: yer theyre all pretty weak ... but thinliquidfilm was working :(
[10:57] <kongove> Is there anyone use git-send-email?
[10:57] <brrrrrradical> does anybody know anything about floola? i set it up with my ipod and now it closes on startup
[10:57] <gavi> brrrrrradical, cool
[10:57] <rien-ne-va-plus> I've got a little problem, im trying to watch dvb-t with totem, but it seems like i cant figure out which plugins he needs
[10:58] <ziroday> slaxaxe: okay, that looks like a permissions problem. What are the permissions on ~/.local and I presume your are human?
[10:58] <rien-ne-va-plus> i installed kaffeine, which works, but i prefer not to have all the KDE modules installed
[10:58] <PerSeL> and wine do not support windows mobile files
[10:58] <rien-ne-va-plus> so what do i need to install, to watch dvb-t with totem?
[10:58] <gavi> hey does anyone know if vhcs can be installed in ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10
[10:59] <ziroday> brrrrrradical: yes I do use avidemux and its very easy. It has a prebuilt options for ipod so you load your video select the ipod preload and its off
[10:59] <Gaspode42> Can anybody help me get my system running again? I am (was) running 8.04.1 (2.6.24-21) and tried to install some software by hand. Now the system wont boot - it starts normally, clears the screen and givies the animated cursor and then goes no further. I have tried booting in safemode and doing 'fix X server' but his does not help. Any assistance would be much appreciated.
[10:59] <safa>  I've got a little problem,i can't change my screen luminosity
[11:00] <gavi> Gaspode42, try changing the kernel
[11:00] <s4n7o> Muy buenas. Quería pedir ayuda sobre un problema de sonido que tengo con el sonido en Ubuntu Hardy 8.04. Mi tarjeta de sonido es una realtek ALC8800 y mi problema es q se escucha muy bajo, demasiado diria yo. He subido todo en el alsamixer y en el volumen normal y nada. He intentado mil cosas y nada. Agradeceria la ayuda. ;)
[11:00] <slaxaxe> ziroday: just checked... I am human... :) ... .local properties shows the owner as root ... I guess that should be changed... but how ?
[11:00] <tARrAScH> !spanish | s4n7o
[11:00] <PerSeL> anyone can help me with windows mobile program to run on linux
[11:01] <Gaspode42> gavi: Tried the other option in grub but get same response or is that not what you mean? I am new to all this which is probable why I broke it to start with!
[11:01] <gavi> PerSeL, did u rread what i wrote before?
[11:01] <bazhang> PerSeL, perhaps wine
[11:01] <orgthingy> damn sound problems
[11:01] <orgthingy> if i left my laptop turned on @ night
[11:01] <PerSeL> wine do not support it
[11:01] <gavi> Gaspode42, hrm... maybe save everything in your /home/ directory and reinstall ubuntu
[11:01] <orgthingy> then come back @ morning.. it simply doesnt work anymore
[11:01] <PerSeL> i read the futures
[11:01] <ziroday> slaxaxe: one sec
[11:02] <orgthingy> why does ubuntu have these annoying sound problems :|
[11:02] <gavi> PerSeL, than vbox
[11:02] <bazhang> PerSeL, perhaps virtual box then
[11:02] <phanter> hi there
[11:02] <dekkong> orgthingy: I have no sound problems at all
[11:02] <ziroday> slaxaxe: okay. do you know how to show hidden folders?
[11:02] <phanter> i am now in puppy linux because my xubuntu install refuses to install GRUB. How can i install GRUB from here?
[11:02] <Gaspode42> gavi: OK I was hoping I did not have to do that as I have no media and can't remember how I did it to start with. Oh well such is life! ;-)
[11:03] <Thehotsauce> Hey guys, i typed: sudo config in terminal just like u told me to do but then it asks me for a password.. i donno what the pass is. Can you help me ?
[11:03] <zai> salut
[11:03] <abayomi> Help, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my laptop but the speaker and the earpiece are working together at the same time
[11:03] <zai> comment on va sur ubuntu fr
[11:03] <ziroday> !fr | zai
[11:03] <gavi> Gaspode42, what do u mean, no media?
[11:03] <bazhang> zai /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:03] <orgthingy> dekkong : weird
[11:03] <slaxaxe> ziroday: in terminal or file manager? ... enabled show hidden files and I saw the properties from file manager
[11:03] <orgthingy> abayomi : hmm, click on sound icon @ gnome-panel (top)
[11:04] <orgthingy> then configure it
[11:04] <bazhang> Thehotsauce, ifconfig
[11:04] <dekkong> orgthingy:can u explain your problem?
[11:04] <PerSeL> It looks like Vbox also don't support windows mobile
[11:04] <orgthingy> dekkong : it doesnt play at all
[11:04] <orgthingy> :-)
[11:04] <orgthingy> thats my problem..
[11:04] <Gaspode42> gavi: I also have SUSE on this box and it got rather confusing (for me) when I did the install. I will have to download again?
[11:04] <Thehotsauce> yeah i typed it ifconfig
[11:04] <orgthingy> if i like keep my laptop opened at night
[11:04] <ziroday> slaxaxe: file manager, you want to do it in the terminal you can do chmod u=rwx ~/.local
[11:04] <orgthingy> then come back at morning, it doesnt play sound anymore
[11:04] <bazhang> PerSeL, then you may wish to check the ubuntuforums
[11:04] <gavi> PerSeL, vbox is virtual windows
[11:04] <dekkong> orgthingy: when did you install it?
[11:04] <orgthingy> dekkong : it?
[11:04] <Thehotsauce> then it asks for a password
[11:04] <dekkong> orgthingy: Ubuntu
[11:05] <bazhang> Thehotsauce, just ifconfig not sudo ifconfig
[11:05] <kafle> find
[11:05] <Thehotsauce> ok ty
[11:05] <orgthingy> dekkong : i had debian since 90's.. then ubuntu since 6.06.. sound problems started liek this  year in ubuntu
[11:05] <Tyrath> On boot the ubuntu logo and progress bar are outside the screen. Is there any way to fix this?
[11:05] <gavi> if it doesnt work in vbox, which i doubt, than u must install windows alone