[08:24] <Calilasseia> Which leaves me a little puzzled as to how to go about it ...
[08:24] <flaccid> Calilasseia: like i said fstab
[08:24] <Tox> tnx alot
[08:24] <Calilasseia> OK ... you mean I edit fstab, then what happens?
[08:25] <flaccid> [2007-01-27 18:22]  <flaccid> so its done before mount on boot
[08:25] <Calilasseia> Oh, so I edit fstab, set the pass column value for the root filesystem to 1, then reboot?
[08:25] <flaccid> yeah it will check on each boot
[08:26] <Calilasseia> Oh ... it checks automatically every boot if that value is 1?
[08:26] <Tox> flaccid: you did not understand me i need to know what application exactly uses internet traffic as i know there is a command in konsole to find this out
[08:26] <flaccid> Tox:  application exactly uses internet traffic??
[08:27] <Tox> yes
[08:27] <flaccid> wouldn't that be any application that makes a tcp connection?
[08:27] <flaccid> if you are looking for a bandwidth meter which shows on a per process basis. it doesn't exist.
[08:28] <Calilasseia> So if setting the pass value to 1 makes the kernel perform a fsck on the root filesystem on every boot ....
[08:28] <Tox> i.e firefox or xchat i need to view it in konsole some program is using tcp connection  and i can't find out which ..
[08:28] <flaccid> yes Calilasseia
[08:29] <Calilasseia> ...how do I achieve the same end result with the other parts of the filesystem on other partitions? Or do I just unmount them manually and fsck them that way?
[08:29] <flaccid> Tox: i've given you the command. go from there
[08:29] <Tox> its only shows basic info about connections
[08:29] <flaccid> what were you expecting?
[08:30] <Tox> ok flac ill find this by myself and show it exist u lamer
[08:30] <flaccid> show what exactly
[08:30] <Tox> a command
[08:30] <Calilasseia> LOL
[08:30] <flaccid> a command hey
[08:31] <flaccid> a command could be a binary made by anybody.
[08:31] <Tox> you said there are not such kind of cmd ..
[08:31] <Calilasseia> Oh, I checked the Man pages for fsck and it mentions something about serialising fsck ... and suggests that it's a good thing to do if you're trynig to conserve CPU and memory usage ....
[08:32] <Calilasseia> Does it do this automatically on bootup once the pass value is set correctly?
[08:32] <flaccid> no idea
[08:33] <Calilasseia> Hmm ...
[08:33] <flaccid> Tox: there isn't. but that doesn't stop somebody from making it and not being included in kubuntu.
[08:33] <flaccid> basically pass to 1 is suffice to get your disk fixed if unmounted correcty. eg. power failure
[08:34] <monsterb_> Flying_Eagle, I found it in "/.kde/share/config/medianotifierrc"  I removed line "media/removable_unmounted=#Service:/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/digikam_upload_photos.desktop" It worked.
[08:34] <Calilasseia> Right ... but that value applies only to the root filesystem if youhave your OS mounted on multiple partitions ... ???
[08:34] <Tox> few days ago i read about this in web page i cant remember
[08:35] <Flying_Eagle> monsterb_, k, but there _is_ a gui
[08:35] <Tox> searching in firefox history at the moment
[08:35] <flaccid> Calilasseia: it applies to the entry in fstab that its listed for.
[08:35] <flaccid> tox np
[08:36] <monsterb_> Flying_Eagle, I looked all over for it. Are u using gnome or kde?
[08:36] <Flying_Eagle> kde
[08:36] <Flying_Eagle> we are in #kubuntu
[08:36] <Calilasseia> Only the Man pages seem to imply that I could set other nonzero pass values for the other partitions ...
[08:36] <Calilasseia> ... and that fsck would be applied serially in order in that case ....
[08:37] <Calilasseia> ... which makes sense after what you told me about it doing so during boot time ....
[08:37] <flaccid> Calilasseia: i can't remember to be honest. but 1 will flag for check, isn't that suffice?
[08:37] <monsterb_> Flying_Eagle, thought i would ask - i have nothing like that in system settings... thanks for the help though
[08:37] <Calilasseia> It'll do for the root partition sure ....
[08:37] <Flying_Eagle> np
[08:38] <flaccid> it'll do it for any
[08:38] <flaccid> i set it to 1 for my ext2 and fat partitions in freebsd
[08:38] <flaccid> those two are not roor partitions..
[08:38] <flaccid> root
[08:38] <Calilasseia> Hmm ....
[08:39] <Tox> flac try this u jerk .... lsof -i
[08:39] <flaccid> Tox: i don't have that command
[08:40] <Tox> yes u r
[08:40] <flaccid> i am what?
[08:40] <KorN[CM] > anyone here familiar with dmraid?
[08:40] <Tox> it comes with my ubuntu
[08:40] <KorN[CM] > im having REAL troubles
[08:41] <flaccid> Tox: ok i logged onto a system that does have that command. what is your point?
[08:43] <flaccid> is there a field it gives that netstat doesn't ?
[08:44] <surgy> i have a program i want to compile that says it requires VC6++ is there a workaround for compiling that on kubuntu?
[08:45] <monsterb_> !dmraid
[08:45] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[08:45] <Tox> !lsof
[08:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:45] <Tox> !lsof
[08:45] <surgy> tox: was that aimed at me?
[08:46] <Tox> nop
[08:46] <flaccid> yeah its much of a muchnes, Tox. lsof is not a common unix binary/command.
[08:47] <Tox> yes i know it now sorry
[08:47] <flaccid> sorry but i'm not saying you don't use it
[08:47] <flaccid> use it!
[08:47] <Tox> but its very good tool
[08:47] <flaccid> its better than netstat right?
[08:47] <Tox> much
[08:47] <Tox> in some case
[08:48] <flaccid> well i'll start to use it. just that it won't be on other *nix systems
[08:48] <Tox> it depends on your needs
[08:48] <flaccid> you'll find that netstat with the right params does the same thing
[08:48] <Tox> no it doesn't
[08:48] <flaccid> what its missing?
[08:48] <Tox> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.3/lsof-12/lsof/00QUICKSTART
[08:49] <KorN[CM] > what is a distro that has the best RAID support (feisty???)
[08:49] <Tox> as i said i cud not find an application uses tcp
[08:49] <flaccid> huh
[08:49] <Tox> can u write again that cmd
[08:49] <flaccid> um
[08:49] <flaccid> you just grep it
[08:49] <Tox> k
[08:49] <flaccid> netstat -a | grep -i tcp
[08:49] <flaccid> that shows all tcp connections
[08:50] <flaccid> netstat -a | grep -i tcp | grep -i established
[08:50] <flaccid> all established tcp connections ^ etc.
[08:50] <flaccid> plus many cli options
[08:53] <Tox> flac how to disable file sharing ?
[08:54] <Tox> i mean at all
[08:56] <monsterb_> Tox, systems tools> sharing
[08:57] <Tox> i've installed protocols as i understand and it's listening now i want get rid of this
[08:59] <Calilasseia> Having done some surfing on fsck I've found out a few more things ... time to say adios and go study :)
[08:59] <Calilasseia> bye ....
[08:59] <flaccid> Tox: which protocol
[08:59] <Tox> microsoft ds
[09:00] <flaccid> disable samba (smbd)
[09:00] <flaccid> ie. windows sharing
[09:00] <Tox> where ishoul do it
[09:00] <flaccid> ah from memory there is gui
[09:00] <mustang_> #kentucky-flirts
[09:01] <flaccid> um is there service manager in system settings or someting? someone help me out hehe
[09:01] <Tox> k
[09:02] <flaccid> like i'm finding it hard to remember coz i'm on freebsd atm
[09:02] <flaccid> have to install kubuntu on spare space
[09:02] <surgy> flaccid: have you ever tried to compile a source that requires VC6 libraries?
[09:03] <flaccid> sorry can't say that i have
[09:03] <flaccid> you you got the meta package build-essential installed?
[09:03] <surgy> dam, im trying to compile a program that requires VC6 or VC.net to compile
[09:04] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i'm ready to cry.
[09:05] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i cannot figure out why i can connect wirelessly, and the other machine can't
[09:05] <|Daisuke_Ido|> when they use the same cards
[09:05] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i think...
[09:05] <|Daisuke_Ido|> mine was automatically discovered as ra0
[09:05] <|Daisuke_Ido|> the other is seen as wlan0 and (oddly) wmaster0
[09:06] <pgdown> so, are the kubuntu repos going to have kde 356?
[09:07] <Jucato> pgdown: there already is
[09:07] <|Daisuke_Ido|> already there
[09:07] <Jucato> for edgy only, though. no dapper
[09:07] <pgdown> ahh should have looked at the main page
[09:07] <pgdown> thanks
[09:09] <eisenbergs> Firefox and a lot of other programs wont load up.. any idea how to fix this?
[09:11] <elyon> Could someone please tell me how to copy a group of directories from a CD to my HD?
[09:11] <elyon> I need to do it as root so using Konq wont work.
[09:12] <tibbar__> can somone please help me to install nvidia drivers on dapper 64
[09:12] <elyon> !nvidia | tibbar__
[09:12] <ubotu> tibbar__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:13] <deyan> i am getting an error like "sound server fatal error. cpu overloaded". any ideas?
[09:15] <swami> hi
[09:15] <pgdown> elyon: open up a terminal in your cd drive directory and sudo cp -r name-of-folder /home/elyon
[09:15] <swami> anyone knows why i have no sound onmozzila brouser
[09:15] <swami> i entered on a youtube clip..
[09:15] <swami> and i have no sound
[09:15] <swami> any explanainations?
[09:16] <pgdown> update your flash plugin
[09:16] <swami> hmm....
[09:16] <swami> i think it;s up to date
[09:16] <monsterb_>  !nvidia | tibbar__
[09:16] <ubotu> tibbar__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:17] <swami> the pack manager should manage that update
[09:17] <pgdown> swami: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[09:17] <pgdown> get the tarball
[09:17] <pgdown> swami: not in the repos
[09:17] <Jucato> !flash9
[09:17] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:18] <pgdown> ok nevermind
[09:18] <tibbar_> monsterb_: is does not wokr
[09:18] <tibbar_> work
[09:20] <monsterb_> tibbar_ did you follow all the instructions?
[09:22] <tibbar_> monsterb_: yes, the only thing im not sure of is, they tell me to install amd-64-generic drivers, but my brother says I must install k8
[09:22] <musya> does anybody know of a goo player for kubuntu for audio or video or possibly for both? the standard ones with kubuntu kind of suck
[09:22] <musya> good*
[09:23] <monsterb_> tibbar_ if your using amd64 distro use amd-64-gen; if a i386 use k8.
[09:24] <WMCoolmon> Hey, I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and am trying to get my primary monitor working with the nvidia drivers
[09:24] <WMCoolmon> Anyone qualified to help? :)
[09:25] <tibbar_> monsterb_: what is i386, im using amd64 dapper
[09:26] <ForgeAus> how do I create a link to a directory in konqueror
[09:27] <tibbar_> monsterb_: they also tell me to change nv to nvidia, but then my xserver does not start
[09:27] <monsterb_> tibbar_ ok - u need amd64 drivers
[09:29] <monsterb_> tibbar_ - restart server with 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' and type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:30] <monsterb_> tibbar_ CTRL-ALT-Backspace to restart x-server
[09:30] <tibbar_> monsterb_: last time I did this it just got stuck on the startup screen
[09:31] <tibbar_> monsterb_: must I choose nv or nvidia?
[09:31] <monsterb_> tibbar_ nvidia
[09:32] <monsterb_> tibbar_ if it doesn't work type-   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <monsterb_> tibbar, did it work?
[09:35] <tibbar> monsterb_: well it looks fine but how do I know if it really works
[09:36] <monsterb_> tibbar, did you see Nvidia splash screen before login?
[09:38] <tibbar_> monsterb_: I think its working, cause I can set my resolution
[09:38] <tibbar_> monsterb_: to 1240x1024
[09:39] <tibbar_> monsterb_: if I type glxgears "
[09:39] <tibbar_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:39] <tibbar_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:39] <monsterb_> tibbar_ it's working ;)    try an opengl screensaver
[09:40] <snowrichard> hi
[09:42] <monsterb_> hi snowrichard
[09:46] <tibbar_> monsterb_: if I set my driver to nvidia it does not work and if it set it to nv it works a bit
[09:51] <jonjonj> has anyone tried to get dlink wireless usb devices to work?
[09:52] <jackson> Typing this line....  gksu "update-manager -c"  ... doesnt seem to do anything in regards to upgrading kubuntu dapper...where have i gone wrong?..thx
[09:53] <Tim_4117> Hello, why doesnt Wine work any good?
[09:54] <musya> Tim_4117: why doesnt my cpu work fast?
[09:54] <snowrichard> why is the sky black?
[09:54] <tibbar_> its not
[09:55] <musya> snowrichard: yea that was a bit off of the sarcasim....
[09:55] <jonjonj> It's a light lavender purpple
[09:56] <Tim_4117> ?
[09:56] <musya> technically the sky isnt a color its just dark....
[09:56] <Tim_4117> I thought it was clear...
[09:56] <jonjonj> the sky has a color like water has color
[09:56] <musya> Tim_4117: if you have a question try asking it more precisly not so general. whats your problem
[09:56] <Tim_4117> but when the particles come together it becomes blue or something
[09:57] <musya> well it depends where you are at.
[09:57] <Tim_4117> Why doesnt my wine work?
[09:57] <musya> the sky here is dark, because its 1 am
[09:57] <jonjonj> because you bought it at a liquor store
[09:57] <Tim_4117> WINE as in the windows emulator thing
[09:57] <musya> try costco
[09:57] <jonjonj> I know, it's late and I'm a little loopy
[09:57] <jonjonj> I've been trying to get Beryl to run
[09:58] <jonjonj> or my wireless
[09:58] <musya> Tim_4117: does it come with a help?
[09:58] <Tim_4117> When I run things like mIRC and x-chat they dont run
[09:58] <musya> or instructions
[09:58] <Tim_4117> I cnat read them in linux...
[09:58] <Tim_4117> cant*
[09:59] <jonjonj> pardon?
[09:59] <musya> not all things will work with wine, check out its website people have posted tutorials on how to get programs to run, as far as that use kopete its just as good, no sence in running wine just for that.
[09:59] <musya> ? thats not possible to not be able to read something in linux
[10:00] <jonjonj> oh believe my musya, it's possible
[10:00] <jonjonj> look how screwed up firefox's fonts were for KDE users
[10:00] <jonjonj> took them over a year to find some reasonable solution to that
[10:01] <snowrichard> making coffee brb
[10:01] <musya> jonjonj: i didnt see that, i think he was talking about a help wich should read almost anywhere unless its a windows thing
[10:02] <musya> does anyone here use kdevelop?
[10:02] <Tim_4117> I have it but not use it, lol
[10:03] <musya> that channel never responds
[10:03] <musya> Tim_4117: do you know how to use it?
[10:03] <monsterb_> tibbar_ did u install glx?
[10:03] <Tim_4117> Not really
[10:04] <lupine_85> musya: I've used it a bit
[10:05] <musya> lupine_85: well here is what my problem is ill just copy and paste the same question over
[10:05] <musya> i have a program that has 3 files, a main.cpp, another source file, and a header file, and my main .cpp cannot fine my source file, but they are in the same directory, but the same code i visuall C++ runs perfect, so its not finding my other source file, what can i do to fix that?
[10:05] <Goliath23> hi
[10:05] <lupine_85> have you added the other source file to the project?
[10:06] <musya> its in the same directory
[10:06] <tibbar_> monsterb_: yes
[10:06] <musya> i dont need a #include do i ?
[10:06] <Tim_4117> Does anyone know how to use Python?
[10:06] <lupine_85> no, it needs adding to the project
[10:06] <musya> i dont in visuall c++
[10:06] <Goliath23> where can I read the changelog of the linux kernel package from 2.6.15-26 to 2.6.15-27? and is there an alternate install cd (text install with possibility to setup a raid) that uses the latter kernel version?
[10:06] <lupine_85> did you create the source in visual c++ ?
[10:06] <musya> Tim_4117: i do a bit whats up?
[10:06] <musya> no kdevelop
[10:07] <monsterb_> tibbar_ did you type   -    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:07] <musya> just i had to run it in v C++ it was h.w so i had to get my .exe but none of my programs work in kdevelop like that
[10:07] <lupine_85> hmm. well, it'll be the autotools stuff. If it's not in the project, automake won't set it up for compilation, so it won't get linked into your project
[10:07] <tibbar_> monsterb_: yes
[10:07] <lupine_85> give it a try, at least
[10:07] <tibbar_> monsterb_: ,but I chose nv, because nvidia does not work
[10:08] <musya>  your saying #include it?
[10:08] <monsterb_> tibbar_ what kind of nvidia card is it?
[10:08] <musya> because i think it gets stuck at linking...
[10:08] <lupine_85> no, I'm saying add the .cpp file in project options
[10:08] <tibbar_> monsterb_: 7600gt turbo, its not a legasy card
[10:08] <lupine_85> (at least, I think it'll be project options)
[10:09] <lupine_85> automake isn't compiling your .cpp because it's not in the makefile. It's not in the makefile because kdevelop doesn't know about it.
[10:10] <musya> well im not in a project
[10:11] <musya> i did a #include other source and now its saying it cannot find my header nor my source file...
[10:11] <lupine_85> if you're not in a project, you'll have to write your own makefile
[10:11] <musya> any tuts on that?
[10:11] <lupine_85> I don't think you want to do that; so create a new project and add the source files to it
[10:11] <lupine_85> otherwise, google for automake
[10:12] <lupine_85> it's not fun :(
[10:12] <musya> which directory do i add the source files to there? i dont understand the kdevelop projects, they have so many files there
[10:12] <monsterb_> tibbar_ when you type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"   are you still in x-server? you should be out of x.
[10:12] <lupine_85> src/
[10:12] <kosta> !de
[10:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:13] <musya> lupine_85: i create a win32 hello world project right? for just console program?
[10:14] <tibbar_> monsterb_: ok i'll go out quick
[10:14] <monsterb_> tibbar_
[10:17] <musya> lupine_85:  this is the error i get
[10:17] <musya> /home/michael/Desktop/test project/test/configure: line 876: test: /home/michael/Desktop/test: binary operator expected
[10:17] <musya> /home/michael/Desktop/test project/test/configure: line 882: test: /home/michael/Desktop/test: binary operator expected
[10:17] <musya> configure: error: sources are in /home/michael/Desktop/test project/test, but `cd /home/michael/Desktop/test project/test' does not work
[10:18] <_spaz> hello again
[10:19] <_spaz> how do i tell what version of kubuntu is installed?
[10:19] <sparr> for nvidia drivers under kubuntu...  is there a better way than using nvidia's installer?
[10:22] <_spaz> anyone?
[10:23] <monsterb_> !nvidia | sparr
[10:23] <ubotu> sparr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <WMCoolmon> Does anyone know how to specify the primary desktop to KDE when using twinview?
[10:24] <monsterb_> tibbar_ good news?
[10:24] <_spaz> nm
[10:24] <sparr> monsterb_: anything more up to date?
[10:24] <tibbar> monsterb_: nope it does not work if I set it to nvidia
[10:27] <monsterb_> sparr did you try drivers from nvidia?
[10:27] <sparr> monsterb_: im going to, if i have to, but then if/when i use the packages it all gets ugly
[10:28] <monsterb_> sparr - install nvidia-kernel mod from repo before installing
[10:28] <sparr> too old
[10:30] <monsterb_> sparr - install nvidia-kernel-common from repo before installing drivers from nvidia site.
[10:34] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[10:34] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[10:36] <monsterb_> sparr, if your installing driver from nvidia site ... nvidia-kernel-common should be the only nvidia package selected .. others should be unmarked
[10:38] <sparr> thanks
[10:40] <monsterb_> sparr, also need linux-image kernel and gcc compiler. your welcome
[10:41] <sparr> i think i can live with the old packaged version for now
[10:44] <monsterb_> tibbar are u using dapper?
[10:44] <tibbar> monsterb_: yes dapper64
[10:45] <monsterb_> tibbar did you enable glx?         sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:45] <tibbar> monsterb_: yes, im downloading the beta drivers from www.nvidia.com
[10:45] <tibbar> monsterb_: I think that should work
[10:46] <monsterb_> tibbar good luck
[10:46] <tibbar> ok
[10:48] <pingveno> Current weather for Cairns Airport :  Showers Rain, Few clouds at 457 meters, Temperature: 26C, Pressure: 1007 hPa, Wind: 11 km/h WNW
[10:48] <monsterb_> tibbar, you will need nvidia-kernel-common(only nvidia package installed), linux-image kernel,  and gcc compiler.
[10:49] <ghjk> Hi there, I have a question about formatting a HD!
[10:49] <ghjk> is any way to have a previously ext3 formatted HD cleaned the GRUB installation?
[10:50] <ghjk> I mean to have a HD like you get it when you buy a new one?
[10:51] <tibbar> monsterb_: ok
[10:51] <ghjk> are any tools who clean everything from the HD?
[10:51] <Blissex> ghjk: yes.
[10:52] <ghjk> Blissex: any tips where to look for that.
[10:52] <ghjk> Blissex:
[10:52] <ghjk> I actually did a reformat
[10:52] <ghjk> and created a new partition
[10:52] <Blissex> ghjk: depends what you mean by that. Just clean the GRUB boot loader or the whole contents?
[10:52] <ghjk> actually everything
[10:53] <ghjk> because GRUB doesn't get cleaned up
[10:53] <Blissex> ghjk: you can just do 'dd bs=16k if=/dev/zero of=/dev/....'
[10:54] <monsterb_> Blissex, would that clean just clean the MBR ?
[10:54] <ghjk> dd is converting and copying a file!
[10:54] <Blissex> monsterb_: no, if you let it run it will zero the whole disk.
[10:55] <Blissex> monsterb_: for just the MBR: 'dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/....'
[10:55] <ghjk> I see
[10:55] <monsterb_> ghjk, will this be a secondary drive?
[10:56] <ghjk> nop
[10:56] <ghjk> it will become the primary
[10:56] <monsterb_> ghjk it's easier just to rewrite it ;)
[10:57] <ghjk> what do you mean by 'rewriting'?
[10:57] <ghjk> I want to boot from that drive a new KUBUNTU installation
[10:57] <monsterb_> ghjk install lilo or grub - it will rewrite the old boot loader
[10:58] <ghjk> but I don't want to have any boot loader in the first place
[10:58] <ghjk> it will be created one afterwards
[10:58] <monsterb_> ghjk you have to have a boot loader
[10:59] <Phlosten> you could have a boot loader on a floppy disk
[10:59] <ghjk> but, when you buy a brand new one, doesn't have any!
[10:59] <ghjk> it will be created afterwards
[10:59] <Tim_4117> My Adept wont work could someone help please?
[10:59] <ghjk> Tim_4117: mine neither
[10:59] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | tim_4117
[10:59] <ubotu> tim_4117: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:59] <ghjk> Tim_4117: try apt-get
[11:00] <Tim_4117> It never crashed it wont let me apply changes and install / remove anything
[11:00] <monsterb_> ghjk - MBR is empty when new - but you need somekind of boot loader - when you install kubuntu it will write a new one
[11:00] <DocTomoe> what is the easiest way to copy an image into another image? I need an IP-Based country flag in a gd-created graphics
[11:01] <DocTomoe> sorry, wrong channel
[11:01] <ghjk> monsterb:
[11:01] <Phlosten> heh
[11:01] <ghjk>  that's correct! And inded I just want to be at that stage
[11:02] <ghjk> monsterb: meaning having a clean HD and starting a brand new kububtu installation
[11:02] <Phlosten> so you want a computer that doesnt boot anything?
[11:02] <ghjk> Phlosten
[11:02] <ghjk> No
[11:02] <ghjk> just to be ready to get booted
[11:02] <Phlosten> you just want to start from fresh?
[11:02] <ghjk> yep
[11:02] <ghjk> from scratch
[11:02] <Phlosten> ah okies, that makes a bit more sense
[11:03] <ghjk> as you go to a shop and buy brand new stuff
[11:03] <Phlosten> would something like DBAN trash the mbr?
[11:03] <ghjk> what's this DBAN?
[11:03] <Tim_4117> Thanks Ubotu
[11:03] <Phlosten> Darek's Boot And Nuke
[11:03] <ghjk> but I'll try the "dd" slution
[11:04] <ghjk> I see
[11:04] <Tim_4117> ubotu: thanks
[11:04] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:04] <ghjk> I'll have a look to that too
[11:04] <Phlosten> boot the CD to wipe you hard drive, writing over everything with random bits is the normal option. but it can also just zero out everything
[11:04] <Tim_4117> ubotu can you script bots in Python?
[11:04] <ghjk> thanks guys for your valuable help
[11:05] <monsterb_> ghjk - gparted livecd is nice for formatting drives too
[11:07] <Tim_4117> How can I install items in Adept now?
[11:10] <lamarieta> Hola
[11:10] <lamarieta> En mi Edgy Eft Openoffice 2.0
[11:10] <lamarieta> est en eingle.
[11:11] <lamarieta> Se peude pasarla a espaol o tengoq ue desinstalar y volver a bajarlo en castellano?
[11:12] <Phlosten> lamarieta: #ubuntu-es ?
[11:12] <Tm_T> !es
[11:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:27] <arne> i need assistance installing my built in i
[11:27] <arne> i need assistance installing my built in wifi card bcm4310
[11:31] <Tim_4117> what does "There was an error commiting change. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" can some one please help.
[11:39] <abstruck> hi, I'm trying to configure my printer using cups... it's a samsung ML-2010. Now it works quite good, the only thing that still not works is printing front to back... ideas?
[11:41] <DettoAltrimenti> hi- I'm trying to get my wireless internet to work on kubuntu. On windows, I had to create a network connection (PPPoE WAN miniport) in the control panel, so I could type in a user name and password. How can I do the same thing on kubuntu?
[11:41] <arne> hi i've installed drivers for my bcm4310 wifi card, but i can't see it in network settings help please
[11:52] <jonas_p> Hallo, since updating to KDE 3.5.6 Konqueror scrolls to the top of a page before switching to another site whenever i click on a link. Can this behavior be reproduced by anyone?
[11:52] <Tm_T> Doesn't happen here.
[11:53] <jonas_p> It does not happen if the site loads fast.
[11:55] <Goliath23> is it usual to include the swap partition in raid1?
[11:55] <goh> Does anybody know how to setup video card BTV2115?
[11:55] <Tm_T> jonas_p: Fast? How fast?
[11:57] <Skrot-> jonas_p: It happends here as well. I'm located at site1, with the scrollbar at the middle. I click link1, scrollbar goes to top of site1 before it loads site2
[11:57] <Tm_T> Skrot-: But it does start loading new page?
[11:57] <Skrot-> yes
[11:57] <jonas_p> Yes
[11:58] <Skrot-> And if i go back, the scrollbar is in the same position as before I clicked the link
[11:58] <Tm_T> Sure it is.
[11:58] <Skrot-> So whats the problem, jonas_p?
[11:58] <sergo_> Hi
[11:59] <Tm_T> I think it's just slow rendering, so "old" page is still seen before new page is drawed.
[11:59] <voicu> does gcc have a flag it sets so that you can create a more portable source (something like "#ifdef _is_gcc")
[11:59] <jonas_p> Thats okay, but konqueror should wait until the new page is loaded before scrolling up
[12:00] <sergo_> How to do kubuntu network installation?
[12:00] <jonas_p> I did not see this behavior with KDE 3.5.5, but I am not 100% sure.
[12:00] <Skrot-> If it's new to 3.5.6 you should file a bug report
[12:00] <kraut> moin
[12:01] <Tm_T> jonas_p: Well, I fail to reproduce that, and I also fail to see this as any kind of problem, but I won't stop you if you do file a bugreport.
[12:01] <Skrot-> Tm_T: It does create some "visual noise"
[12:01] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Well, can't comment '
[12:01] <Tm_T> cause can't see.
[12:01] <Skrot-> When you're on a webpage, and click a link, you want it to go directly from what you see now, to the new site
[12:01] <jonas_p> Is there an easy way to record your screen?
[12:01] <voicu> or what would be the flag for linux?
[12:01] <Tm_T> So do file a report and we'll see how it goes.
[12:02] <voicu> in c++
[12:02] <jonas_p> Then I could attach a link to a film in the bugreport.
[12:03] <Skrot-> http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/
[12:07] <tim__> hello how can i find server listings for the undernet ?
[12:07] <Skrot-> I've got it recorded, jonas_p
[12:07] <jonas_p> ah thanks
[12:07] <Skrot-> 4.3MB.. wow, sweet program
[12:08] <Skrot-> I'm uploading the vid now
[12:08] <jonas_p> Can you file the bugreport? I've never done it before. And at the moment I do not have time figuring out everything?
[12:09] <Skrot-> http://folk.ntnu.no/~romnes/out.ogg the vid. Check if thats the same problem you've got
[12:09] <jonas_p> Okay, one second.
[12:10] <naser> i want software to ;view RAM and CPU status in the desktop in nice way
[12:10] <Skrot-> You can check it out also, Tm_T. See if its not reproducable in 3.5.5
[12:11] <jonas_p> That is the same problem i have. Thank you for recording.
[12:11] <Skrot-> np
[12:11] <naser> i want software to ;view RAM and CPU status in the desktop in nice way
[12:11] <Skrot-> Better quality on the vid than I expected :)
[12:14] <Skrot-> jonas_p: I can file the bug if Tm_T or somebody  with KDE 3.5.5 cannot reproduce
[12:15] <naser> i want to download qt 3.3 how ??
[12:21] <eetu> '
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[12:21] <eetu>
[12:21] <eetu>
[12:21] <eetu> ''
[12:21] <eetu> ''
[12:21] <eetu> ''
[12:21] <eetu> '
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[12:21] <eetu> '
[12:21] <eetu> sdfghjk
[12:22] <Tm_T> eetu: Stop that.
[12:22] <jion> hello, Somebody can help me with a newbye anjuta problem? he
[12:23] <Tm_T> Actually...
[12:23] <eetu> Tm_T: I am sorry
[12:23] <Tm_T> op #kubuntu
[12:23] <naser> i have *.c file (c programming language) and want to Run it how ???
[12:23] <Tm_T> Whops.
[12:23] <Tm_T> eetu: No you're not.
[12:24] <Tm_T> eetu: As locals use to say: "mee kotiis kasvamaan" ;(
[12:24] <Tm_T> naser: You use KDE?
[12:24] <jion> I not found the linker options in the option menui
[12:25] <Tm_T> jion: Have you searched help.ubuntu.com/community already?
[12:25] <naser> Tm_T: yes
[12:26] <Tm_T> naser: Well, then you already have Qt 3
[12:26] <sebbar> hi, who's in charge of the translation of kde packages for kubuntu?
[12:26] <jion> Sorry, Im new in linux, I search in google but I not found nothing:S
[12:26] <naser> and have *.h files in /usr/include
[12:26] <blindside> how to get cpu info in kubuntu?
[12:26] <blindside> thru console
[12:26] <blindside> any simple console command/
[12:27] <jion> yes
[12:27] <naser> Tm_T i dont know how to run Qt3 !!
[12:27] <Tm_T> blindside: top, but it's much more than only cpu ;)
[12:27] <Tm_T> naser: You need Qt3 for what?
[12:27] <stdin> blindside: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:27] <Tm_T> stdin: That too.
[12:27] <stdin> :)
[12:28] <Tm_T> naser: Just for your information, Qt is not a program itself, but more like technology that KDE uses.
[12:28] <blindside> thx
[12:29] <jion>
[12:29] <jion> Supposedly in the menu options would have to be the options of linker. but it is not thus
[12:29] <Skrot-> jonas_p, Tm_T: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139605 :)
[12:30] <julien> Bonjour tout le monde
[12:30] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Ok, let me see...
[12:30] <naser> Tm_T: ok but now how to make the c file run ??
[12:30] <Skrot-> Tm_T: There was already a bug for it
[12:30] <Tm_T> naser: You need to compile it. ;)
[12:31] <jonas_p> ah, great Skrot-. I searched kde-bugs but I did not find anything.
[12:33] <naser> Tm_T: how to compile it (/home/naser/Desktop/hello.c)
[12:33] <naser> ??
[12:33] <jion> Sorry, Somebody help me?  I not have the "Compiler and linker options" in the Settings menu...
[12:33] <Tm_T> naser: Hmmm...
[12:33] <Tm_T> !compiling
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:33] <Tm_T> D'oh, not that.
[12:34] <Tm_T> naser: Can't remember where was good beginners guide, try google it. ;)
[12:34] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Ok, that looks nasty indeed, I wonder how you make that happen.
[12:35] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Throw me with one url?
[12:35] <jonas_p> Try WIkipedia
[12:35] <Skrot-> Tm_T: Im currently on wlan, so my net is a little slow, maybe you wont notice if you're on a faster line
[12:35] <Skrot-> I tried digg.com and hw.no (norwegian)
[12:36] <jonas_p> i.e. the problem is non existent on cached websites
[12:36] <maxn> hey ho
[12:36] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Well, I have quite slow adsl, but I can try with gprs too. ;)
[12:36] <maxn> do you know what you are going to eat for lunch? x)
[12:37] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Ok, that page did that, weird.
[12:38] <Skrot-> I can reproduce it on wikipedia and (very fast) on kubuntu.org also
[12:39] <ravermeister> hello since a few days my source  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main didn't work anymore
[12:39] <ravermeister> i only find sources for edgy
[12:40] <_jmsi> alguien espaol?
[12:40] <ravermeister> does anyone know a source for dapper for the latest kde / amarok
[12:41] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Ok, let me see if I remember my bugzilla magicwords...
[12:41] <stdin> !es | _jmsi
[12:41] <ubotu> _jmsi: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:42] <ravermeister> nobody?
[12:43] <stdin> ravermeister: try "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ dapper main" for kde and "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-143/ dapper main" for amarok
[12:44] <stdin> ravermeister: those are the latest versions available for dapper
[12:45] <sirbobbyuk> i think i have come across a major problem with the 64bit version of Ubuntu
[12:45] <stdin> what is it ?
[12:46] <sirbobbyuk> well tried to install it onto my pc witch has a dual core processor
[12:47] <sirbobbyuk> get the front screen bit where its states that it loading up, but when it comes to loading the drivers it stops
[12:47] <sirbobbyuk> dead in its track
[12:47] <stdin> which version it it?
[12:47] <ravermeister> okay, but why does the kde-latest know just work for edgy?
[12:47] <sirbobbyuk> tried to load the CD up reinstall it but it does nothing
[12:48] <sirbobbyuk> version 6.06 is the cd
[12:48] <stdin> ravermeister: because the latest kde is 3.5.6, which is only available for edgy now
[12:48] <stdin> sirbobbyuk: have you tried the alternate cd ?
[12:49] <ravermeister> oh okay
[12:49] <sirbobbyuk> what alternate cd?
[12:49] <stdin> !alternate
[12:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:49] <ravermeister> does there exists deb-src for amarok and kde too?
[12:49] <mauro> stdin: why si the latest KDE only available for edgy ?
[12:50] <stdin> ravermeister: yeah, there should be a deb-src for them all
[12:50] <ravermeister> thx
[12:50] <ravermeister> read mauro :)
[12:50] <sirbobbyuk> ok i will have a look and see what that does. i have Kubuntu installed ok on this laptop that working ok.
[12:50] <stdin> mauro: because it depends on things that aren't available for dapper
[12:51] <Tm_T> Skrot-: Sorry 'bout the spam. ;/
[12:51] <stdin> sirbobbyuk: I know that others with dual core cpus have been able to install it
[12:52] <Skrot-> Tm_T: Spam? :)
[12:52] <sirbobbyuk> ok i will have another go and see what happens
[12:52] <ravermeister> hmm i got these error messages after updating my sources:
[12:52] <Tm_T> Skrot-: You'll see, or lucky if not. ;)
[12:52] <Skrot-> hehe
[12:52] <ravermeister> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Konnte Datei /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/kubuntu.org_packages_kde-355_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages nicht ffnen - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:52] <ravermeister> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.bz2: Konnte Datei /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/kubuntu.org_packages_kde-355_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources nicht ffnen - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:53] <kokoa> i want to add LAMP to my pc and want to control in this lamp how ??
[12:53] <stdin> ravermeister: can you run this in konsole and past it to pastebin "LANG=C sudo apt-get update"
[12:53] <ravermeister> sure
[12:54] <stdin> !lamp
[12:54] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:56] <ravermeister> strange now it works fine... :)
[12:56] <stdin> ravermeister: heh, well as long as it works :P
[12:59] <ravermeister> right
[12:59] <ravermeister> another question
[12:59] <ravermeister> when i choose reinstall in synaptic
[12:59] <ravermeister> doe it overrides the config files?
[12:59] <stdin> not normally
[01:00] <stdin> if it want to, it will ask if you want it to anyway
[01:00] <ravermeister> how do i say him to overwrite the config files, cause i have got problems with the login
[01:00] <ravermeister> and i want to try to reinstall kdm
[01:01] <stdin> you could try removing (or better to backup) the config file and then reinstalling
[01:01] <stdin> or you can purge the package, then reinstall it
[01:01] <ravermeister> okay thats a good idea
[01:01] <ravermeister> maybe you know the problem...
[01:01] <ravermeister> i will explain
[01:02] <ravermeister> i updated kde from 3.5.4 to 3.5.5 with the kde-latest sources via synaptic
[01:02] <ravermeister> and know when i try to login after the boot process
[01:02] <ravermeister> kdm disappears, i see the background wallpaper and nothing happens
[01:02] <ravermeister> i have to restart xserver
[01:03] <ravermeister> and login again
[01:03] <ravermeister> then kde appears
[01:03] <ravermeister> when i change to the console
[01:03] <ravermeister> after the first login try
[01:03] <ravermeister> and type who
[01:03] <ravermeister> i am logged in graphically
[01:03] <ravermeister> in /var/log/messages i can't find anything
[01:04] <ravermeister> i don't know what i can do
[01:04] <stdin> I've not see that problem before
[01:04] <stdin> not sure it's a KDM problem tho
[01:04] <stdin> KDM seems to log you in, but KDE isn't starting right
[01:04] <ravermeister> right
[01:05] <ravermeister> until i restart the xserver and login again
[01:05] <stdin> have you checked /var/log/kdm.log ?
[01:07] <stdin> if you don't see anything wrong, try purging KDM (ignore the info about removing kubuntu-desktop), then install kubuntu-desktop again
[01:09] <ravermeister> okay thank you i will try that you mean i should completly remove kdm and then reinstall it
[01:09] <ravermeister> right?
[01:09] <jose__> hi all, i need help sharing my display in vnc. I have configure Xvnc so that i can start a new x window from another machine with vnc. Now i want to be see the same display in both machines
[01:10] <stdin> ravermeister: there is an option in synaptic to "purge" the package, that removes the config files too, choose that
[01:10] <jose__> if i try to run xvnc in display 0 i get an error saying that it is locked
  try x11vnc
[01:10] <ravermeister> okay
[01:11] <jose__> hi ravermeister. Thanks, is that an alternative to xvnc?
[01:11] <ravermeister> i dont know, but i use this one to get the actually display on vnc
[01:12] <ravermeister> back in a minute, i try the tips from stdin (don't run away) :)
[01:12] <stdin> ravermeister: heh, ok
[01:12] <jose__> ok
[01:13] <stdin> jose__: from the package description, x11vnc is what you want
[01:13] <waylandbill> x11vnc is limited to the current session.
[01:13] <stdin> waylandbill: that's what he wants
[01:14] <waylandbill> well then.. excellent. :)
[01:14] <jose__> thanks stdin, i am reading the doc already, i hope it is possible to have both xvnc and x11vnc runing toguether
[01:14] <stdin> jose__: you should be able to, as long as they are using different displays
[01:14] <jose__> ok
[01:15] <waylandbill> I was always partial to the xdmcp tunnelled over sshd but... hey... can't win em all. :-D
[01:17] <waylandbill> that and when my hdd blew in my laptop a quick and simple ltsp really rocked.
[01:17] <GdC> ciaociao
[01:21] <GdC> how many people speack italian?
[01:21] <stdin> !it
[01:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:21] <GdC> thanks :o)
[01:21] <stdin> np :)
[01:28] <dhq> is there anyway i can make dolby effects sound in my kubuntu
[01:29] <jion> Somebody can hel me whit anjuta? I not have the option "Compiler and linker options" in the Settings menu:S
[01:32] <dufft[ru] > hey any1 here?
[01:33] <stdin> yeah
[01:33] <waylandbill> jion: you have a compiler installed?
[01:36] <dufft[ru] > yeah so
[01:36] <dufft[ru] > about the compiler
[01:36] <dufft[ru] > i need some
[01:36] <dufft[ru] > to compile cpp files
[01:36] <stdin> !b-e
[01:36] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:36] <dufft[ru] > gr8 thnx
[01:36] <stdin> dufft[ru] : that should get you started :)
[01:37] <dufft[ru] > and abt the developer software
[01:37] <dufft[ru] > i mean smth like Microsoft Visual C++ but for linux
[01:37] <nagyv> I just try to install jdk6, but adept does not let me to accept the license. weird, where did I lost the focus?
[01:37] <stdin> KDevelop is supposed to be good
[01:37] <dufft[ru] > where can i get it?
[01:38] <stdin> !kdevelop
[01:38] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[01:38] <stdin> dufft[ru] : it's in the universe repo
[01:39] <waylandbill> kdevelop is the top one. anjuta is coming along, but ... still falls a little short yet
[01:39] <stdin> nagyv: cancel adept and run this from konsole "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:40] <solemnwarning> Why do pccard compact-flash adaptors show up as /dev/sd* in kubuntu, when the pccard IDE driver shows it as hde in other distros?
[01:40] <dufft[ru] > ok now i kinda know what to download now can u tell me where? i am a complete n00b here
[01:41] <stdin> solemnwarning: because they normally use a USB interface, and USB devices use SCSI emualtion
[01:41] <solemnwarning> I've got USB mass storage in my kernel, so why isn't is sd* under others?
[01:41] <stdin> dufft[ru] : you need to enable the universe repository in adept
[01:41] <waylandbill> !universe
[01:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:42] <stdin> solemnwarning: no clue, it should be sd*
[01:42] <solemnwarning> What does kubuntu have in it's kernel that makes pccard to cf adaptors show as sd*?
[01:43] <solemnwarning> I mean, if it is a USB one why the hell doe pccard IDE find it?
[01:44] <stdin> solemnwarning: maybe it's on an IDE controler
[01:44] <solemnwarning> So why would kubuntu find it as sd*?
[01:44] <jion> waylandbill: I have gcc, I can compile and linker my programs, but I not have these option:S
[01:45] <stdin> solemnwarning: because, the usb hub may be PCI, but usb devices (drives) are emulated as SCSI
[01:45] <solemnwarning> No
[01:45] <solemnwarning> I mean how is USB mass storage in kubuntu picking them up if they are IDE?
[01:45] <stdin> solemnwarning: I'm not a kernel devel/expert :P
[01:46] <nagyv> stdin: now it complains about /var/lib/apt/lists/lock, but no process locks this file. Even the file does not exist.
[01:46] <stdin> solemnwarning: you'll get a better answer in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-kernel
[01:47] <stdin> nagyv: hmm, tey "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[01:47] <stdin> *try
[01:47] <jose__> hi stdin, it works greit!
[01:47] <nagyv> stdin: sorry, I have found the problem, forget about sudo
[01:47] <stdin> jo
[01:47] <stdin> opps :P
[01:47] <stdin> jose__: great :)
[01:48] <jose__> thanks for your help :D
[01:48] <stdin> no problem :)
[01:49] <jion> Somebody can hel me whit anjuta? I not have the option "Compiler and linker options" in the Settings menu :S.I have a compiler and linker
[01:51] <waylandbill> pccard flash adapter are not ide in the first place.
[01:55] <soulrider> !cedega
[01:55] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:00] <harmental> hi everybody....
[02:00] <harmental> can anybody tell me why the swap is desactivated in edgy...
[02:00] <harmental> an most importantly how to activate it automatically at every startup
[02:01] <andreasw> harmental: do you have a swap partition and do you have an entry in /etc/fstab?
[02:01] <harmental> andreasw: yeap
[02:02] <andreasw> sudo swapon /dev/yourdevice will activate the swap
[02:02] <harmental> UUID=2fdd2238-9ab2-41ed-a157-32e4dcb5e281 none swap sw 0 0
[02:02] <andreasw> maybe the UUID changed
[02:03] <andreasw> try to replace the UUID=... with /dev/yourdevice
[02:05] <tazz> i am booted from a livecd i think my kubuntu installation is corrupted, and my kubuntu partition is mounted as /media/windows/ubuntu ( ext3 ) how do i run fsck/e2fsck on it?
[02:05] <harmental> ok..so i did swapon and it worked....
[02:06] <andreasw> harmental: ok I think the UUID is wrong than
[02:06] <harmental> how can i get the UUID from my dev
[02:06] <harmental> ?
[02:06] <andreasw> I have no clue ^^
[02:07] <andreasw> I always use ne old /dev
[02:07] <stdin> sudo vol_id -u /dev/device
[02:09] <stdin> tazz: 1st you need to unmount it, then run "sudo fsck -f /dev/device"
[02:10] <harmental> thx stdin
[02:10] <stdin> np :)
[02:10] <harmental> andreasw: you were right UUID was changed (i ask myself why?)...
[02:10] <harmental> thank you guys!
[02:10] <sb9> how do i get the current cpu-usage (other than top) ?
[02:10] <andreasw> harmental: maybe the swap partition was reformated
[02:11] <andreasw> and then the uuid changes (I hope thats right ^^)
[02:11] <harmental> hum........
[02:11] <stdin> yeah, it would
[02:11] <harmental> ill guess ill have to reboot to check that everything works fine....
[02:14] <micha_01> hallo
[02:14] <stdin> hi
[02:14] <micha_01> hat jemand hier erfahrungen mit dvdrip gesammelt?
[02:15] <micha_01> mhh .. sieht ja icht so aus ..
[02:15] <andreasw> micha_01: fr Deusch geh mal bitte in #ubuntu-de oder #kubuntu-de
[02:15] <andreasw> micha_01: wobei ich ersteren empfehle ^^
[02:16] <crazy_bus> I rebooted my computer and now at the login screen I can't log into either GNOME or KDE or GNOME failsafe.  If I try I get this error message; A critical error occured.  Please look at KDM's logfile(s) for more information
[02:16] <micha_01> okay .. has someone tried to use dvdrip?
[02:17] <stdin> crazy_bus: ok, you need to look at this file: /var/log/kdm.log
[02:18] <grimko> hi all, I'm on edgy and I've got mldonkey not launching at startup, any clue ?
[02:18] <grimko> kmldonkey is fine when mldonkey is launched
[02:20] <crazy_bus> stdin, I'm looking at the log.  What do I do?
[02:20] <axelitus> hi
[02:20] <stdin> crazy_bus: look for errors in there
[02:20] <heinkel_111> hi
[02:20] <axelitus> i'm  catalan
[02:21] <crazy_bus> like this?
[02:21] <crazy_bus> AUDIT: Fri Jan 26 00:49:40 2007: 3783 X: client 26 rejected from local host
[02:21] <crazy_bus> error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[02:21] <magnus__> is there a way to get windows mwdia player on kubuntu?
[02:22] <heinkel_111> anyone can recommend good how-to's on how to share a printer on my network?
[02:22] <stdin> crazy_bus: I get that "error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy", I don't think it's a problem
[02:22] <stdin> !print
[02:22] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:22] <stdin> !media | magnus__
[02:22] <ubotu> magnus__: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:22] <stdin> or
[02:23] <stdin> !wma
[02:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:23] <stdin> magnus__: ^^
[02:23] <heinkel_111> magnus__:  you can play .wma and .wmv files but not the ones decoded with Digital rights management DRM (Thats windows media player 9 and 10) files
[02:23] <heinkel_111> thanks stdin
[02:23] <stdin> yw :)
[02:24] <crazy_bus> And when I try to login in console mode it tells me this. "/bin/login: error while loading saved libraries: lib crypt.so.1; cannot open shared object file: Input/Output error.
[02:24] <heinkel_111> dont relax just yet cause i have been trying for hours and read pages up and down related stuff :(
[02:24] <matt0507> !windows
[02:24] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:24] <matt0507> haha
[02:24] <matt0507> nice , very funny
[02:24] <stdin> crazy_bus: can you boot in to reconvery mode ?
[02:25] <crazy_bus> I don't know.  I haven't tried since this error.  I'm currently running off a livecd
[02:26] <stdin> looks like there's a problem with your libc6
[02:26] <stdin> maybe an error on the filesystem
[02:28] <crazy_bus> What should I do about it?
[02:29] <stdin> If you can boot in to recovery mode, you need to reinstall libc6 "apt-get --reinstall install libc6"
[02:29] <stdin> or you could try doing that with chroot
[02:30] <crazy_bus> how come ext3 has being loosing system files on me?
[02:30] <stdin> try running a check on the filesystem
[02:31] <stdin> if it's mounted, you need to unmount it, then run "sudo fsck -f /dev/device" (where "device" is the actual device, eg hda1)
[02:31] <crazy_bus> After the check after 30 mounts.  fsck has quite often told me that certain system files are missing
[02:32] <stdin> how old is the hard drive ?
[02:32] <crazy_bus> I think around 4 years old
[02:32] <stdin> it *could* be getting worn out
[02:33] <stdin> but it may not, my hard drive is older than that, and it's fine
[02:33] <crazy_bus> Only system files go missing.  Never files of my home drive partition?
[02:34] <stdin> sounds more like a filesystem error then
[02:34] <crazy_bus> How do you fix filesystem errors?
[02:34] <stdin> with fsck
[02:35] <stdin> bur some aren't fixable, and the files are gone
[02:35] <stdin> if you have an separate home partition, you could just reinstall
[02:36] <crazy_bus> What do I do when fsck tells me what do I wan't to do?
[02:37] <micha_01> bye ..
[02:37] <stdin> fsck just tries to fix the errors any way it can, sometimes it wants/needs to remove files to fix it, if that's the case, you may need to reinstall anyway
[02:38] <crazy_bus> How do I stop miles go missing next time?
[02:38] <crazy_bus> *files
[02:39] <stdin> filesystem errors are usually caused by either not unmounting cleanly (eg power cuts and improper shutdown) or damage to the hard drive
[02:41] <crazy_bus> kubuntu hasn't being shutting down properly either.  It just shutsdown to a black screen with a flash cursor where typing things does nothing.  Also on the black screen if you press to power button it says all processors are closed and takes you to a limited shell
[02:41] <sirbobbyuk> i then i done some major damage to my system ie windows has gone
[02:41] <daleharvey> is there any cd downloads of ubuntu that dont run a live cd before install?
[02:41] <sirbobbyuk> which is not good new period
[02:41] <crazy_bus> daleharvey, alternate cd
[02:42] <daleharvey> cheers, i just noticed it now
[02:42] <stdin> crazy_bus: as long as the partitions are unmounted, then it's ok, my system doesn't power down on shutdown, but it does halt
[02:43] <stdin> crazy_bus: but maybe a reinstall will fix it for you
[02:43] <crazy_bus> It used to power down.  But then one day after a system freeze it stopped.
[02:43] <sirbobbyuk> i must have installed the over 4 times and every time the pc freezes and that it
[02:44] <sirbobbyuk> i have to do the 1 finger re-boot
[02:44] <crazy_bus> I only just reinstalled two weeks ago :(
[02:44] <sirbobbyuk> this must be the 5th or 6 th atempt
[02:45] <sirbobbyuk> i dont understand ubuntu is working ok on the laptop no prob
[02:45] <sirbobbyuk> but on the main pc..... it crashing
[02:45] <crazy_bus> Booting into recovery mode now
[02:45] <sirbobbyuk> its installing at 15% at the moment
[02:46] <sirbobbyuk> crossing fingers and seeing what happens next
[02:46] <stdin> I've never used the desktop install/live cd, I always use the alternate cd
[02:47] <sirbobbyuk> whats the alternate cd
[02:47] <stdin> !alternate
[02:47] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:47] <sirbobbyuk> i think it too late for that now............ it formating 120gb as we speak
[02:48] <sirbobbyuk> 52%
[02:49] <sirbobbyuk> 70% complete
[02:51] <sirbobbyuk> 84% complete and its scanning the mirror
[02:53] <sirbobbyuk> 98% and its finishing install
[02:54] <sirbobbyuk> thats it.... its done i have dual core linux machine
[02:55] <Skrot-> congrats, so do i :P
[02:55] <stdin> did you install the 32 or 64bit version ?
[02:55] <sirbobbyuk> 64
[02:55] <ACA> OL
[02:55] <stdin> ahh
[02:55] <devilsadvocate> can someone tell me how to use a .ktheme file on kubuntu 6.10
[02:55] <sirbobbyuk> its just crashed
[02:56] <Jucato> !changethemes | devilsadvocate
[02:56] <ubotu> devilsadvocate: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[02:56] <stdin> !changetheme
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <Jucato> stdin: :P
[02:56] <stdin> ahh, you beat me :P
[02:56] <ACA> PORTUGUS
[02:56] <stdin> !pt
[02:56] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:56] <sirbobbyuk> at Mounting root file system
[02:56] <ACA> NINGUEM FALA PORTUGUES
[02:57] <Jucato> !pt | ACA
[02:57] <ubotu> ACA: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:57] <sirbobbyuk> there is something that Ubuntu does not like
[02:58] <sirbobbyuk> i might need to install ms windows
[02:58] <devilsadvocate> thanks
[02:58] <ACA> OL ALGUEM FALA PORTUGUS
[02:58] <Jucato> ACA: English only
[02:58] <ACA> NO
[02:58] <stdin> YES
[02:58] <Jucato> ACA: this is an English channel only
[02:59] <ACA> FALA PORTUGUS
[02:59] <daleharvey> what are the kinoff specs needed to run the live cd install?
[02:59] <daleharvey> *kind
[02:59] <sirbobbyuk> I think i need help ubuntu is freezing at Mounting root file system
[02:59] <Jucato> !pt | ACA
[02:59] <ubotu> ACA: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:59] <hendo> hi
[03:00] <Ash-Fox> Ah crap, this is bad. I have a system that I am trying to install kubuntu on, and nothing is detected.. I can't even get a list of devices under lspci
[03:00] <hendo> i cant seem to get java working
[03:00] <stdin> daleharvey: something like 256MB ram, 800MHz cpu will run it fine
[03:00] <stdin> !java
[03:00] <daleharvey> This laptops around 1.6Ghz I believe, 512 ram and a dvd-rw and its taken around an half an hour
[03:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:00] <hendo> i have ubuntu dapper
[03:00] <hendo> 606lt
[03:00] <daleharvey> I still cant even click on the install button
[03:01] <knoppix> It didn't work.  Loading recovery mode just made the same messages fly by.  Also fsck tried to correct the missing files.  But it wanted to load fsck manually, but when it tried it said maitenance shell failed.  Is there anyway to correct things in kubuntu from I livecd?  Or should I just reinstall again?
[03:01] <stdin> daleharvey: well, you can try the alternate cd, it uses even less resources
[03:01] <ACA> OL
[03:01] <daleharvey> yeh im downloading now
[03:02] <ACA> CRZY_BUS
[03:02] <stdin> !caps
[03:02] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:02] <ACA> NO
[03:02] <jion> Why in anjuta 2.0.2 does not appear the option "Compiler and linker options" in the Settings menu?? Where it is?
[03:02] <ACA>  :o
[03:03] <devilsadvocate> will kde 3.5.6 be coming to the repos soon?
[03:03] <Tm_T> ACA: Yes?
[03:03] <ACA>  :(
[03:03] <Skrot-> devilsadvocate: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[03:03] <Tm_T> devilsadvocate: It's in kubuntu.org, for edgy.
[03:03] <Jucato> Tm_T: if you can speak a bit of portuguese....
[03:03] <stdin> ACA: use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus
[03:03] <Tm_T> Jucato: No, but I can make sounds like a moose.
[03:03] <Jucato> Tm_T: O.o
[03:03] <devilsadvocate> ty Skrot- , Tm_T
[03:03] <sirbobbyuk> thats it XP going to have to go back on
[03:03] <stdin> devilsadvocate: it's available for edgy, but not dapper
[03:04] <Jucato> it won't be available for Dapper...
[03:04] <Tm_T> Atleast not yet, maybe never.
[03:05] <crazy_bus> stdin, what do you recommend I do?
[03:05] <Jucato> Tm_T: most probably never. unless Riddel changes his mind
[03:05] <stdin> crazy_bus: the only thing you can really do is reinstall
[03:05] <devilsadvocate> i see that stdin . Fortunately im using edgy
[03:06] <devilsadvocate> what is fiesty using right not?
[03:06] <devilsadvocate> right now*
[03:06] <Tm_T> Jucato: Yup, that's what I meant, and I mostly agree with him, hard to guarantee stability if you're in fast train.
[03:06] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: 3.5.6, afaik
[03:06] <stdin> devilsadvocate: yeah, it's in feisty now :)
[03:06] <Jucato> Tm_T: read the ML ehj?
[03:06] <Jucato> eh*
[03:06] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, renaming to .kth didnt work, btw
[03:06] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: could you point me where you go that .ktheme?
[03:07] <Tm_T> Jucato: Yes I do, when I'm not too lazy and mark all > 100 mails as read. ;)
[03:07] <stdin> isn't a .ktheme just a gzipped tar archive ?
[03:07] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/lcarsaccess441/
[03:07] <sirbobbyuk> i guess i will have to leave it as an xp machine for now. untill i get a better understanding of linux
[03:07] <devilsadvocate> stdin, yes it is
[03:07] <devilsadvocate> not sure how to uncompress it and apply
[03:07] <Jucato> Tm_T: hehehe
[03:07] <stdin> devilsadvocate: you don't just add it to the themes
[03:08] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: which of the 2 did you download?
[03:08] <devilsadvocate> stdin, starting to realize that :P
[03:08] <Jucato>   lcarsaccess441-1.1.2.tar (.gz) or lcarsaccess441-2.1-Theme.tar (.gz)?
[03:08] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, i downloaded both, and tried using th -theme one because it had a .ktheme
[03:08] <Jucato> hm.. let me check
[03:09] <PhinnFort> i think i have a rather serious problem
[03:09] <PhinnFort> i think alsa has stopped working
[03:10] <PhinnFort> at least partially
[03:10] <PhinnFort> it seems if i use the oss emulation, it works again
[03:11] <devilsadvocate> hmm.. its a theme for kde 2.x :| . i suppose its going to take a while for me to get it to work on this
[03:11] <Jucato> yeah... if it's for 2.x... most probably it won't work
[03:11] <PhinnFort> but still neither vlc nor mplayer works
[03:11] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: the first tarball looks like a window decoration, though
[03:12] <PhinnFort> or flash for that matter
[03:12] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[03:12] <stdin> devilsadvocate: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39926 <- KDM theme :)
[03:12] <PhinnFort> from mplayer i get: alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1246:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: No such file or directory
[03:13] <devilsadvocate> ty stdin
[03:13] <stdin> devilsadvocate: I found it while searching for some new themes a few days ago :P
[03:13] <Jucato> take note, that's just a KDM theme :)
[03:13] <devilsadvocate> i know
[03:13] <devilsadvocate> i was looking for a full theme, but now i'll just start putting the pieces together myself
[03:13] <ACA> ALGUEM FALA PORTUGUS
[03:14] <stdin> instructions to install it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu#head-4b3b5593ae454ea8991ad90ceb81f453a0e6ab82 just in case :)
[03:14] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: that might even be better, given KDE's current theming mechanism...
[03:15] <PhinnFort> alsa f*cks up, and not even a mention in dmesg...
[03:16] <stdin> PhinnFort: try: sudo modprobe snd_pcm
[03:16] <stdin> or snd-pcm if that don't work
[03:16] <PhinnFort> nope
[03:17] <PhinnFort> it's already loaded
[03:17] <stdin> that should have created those device nodes
[03:17] <PhinnFort> some of them where already there, but they seemed to disappear
[03:17] <PhinnFort> and they had some different names
[03:18] <PhinnFort> c instead of p in the end of the filename
[03:19] <stdin> I have controlC0 pcmC0D0p pcmC0D2c pcmC0D4p timer pcmC0D0c pcmC0D1c pcmC0D3c and seq
[03:20] <PhinnFort> controlC0  controlC1  controlC2  midiC1D0   pcmC0D0c   pcmC2D0c   pcmC2D0p   pcmC2D1c   pcmC2D1p   seq        timer
[03:20] <PhinnFort> here
[03:20] <stdin> maybe try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" ?
[03:21] <PhinnFort> done several times
[03:21] <PhinnFort> also tried rmmod'ing and modprobing drivers
[03:22] <stdin> PhinnFort: this is my output of "lsmod | grep snd" http://pastebin.ca/330121
[03:23] <TheGateKeeper> anyone in here program the bot?
[03:24] <PhinnFort> well, i have a integrated soundchip on my via mobo, so it's a whole lot of different modules loaded
[03:24] <sk8bdr0216> whats up?
[03:24] <sk8bdr0216> anyone have any good wireless network utility
[03:25] <PhinnFort> sk8bdr0216: iwconfig
[03:25] <aventis> hello
[03:25] <sk8bdr0216> yah i didnt know if anyone has any applications
[03:25] <stdin> TheGateKeeper: ask on #ubuntu-bots
[03:25] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanx stdin
[03:26] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: what is it?
[03:26] <stdin> PhinnFort: mine is an intergrated intel ac97 chip
[03:26] <aventis> i have one question, i placed a request for kubuntu LTS cds many times but my request has not been approved, wanted to know why is this happening when it is said that kubuntu team is still sending LTS cds ?
[03:27] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, 'it' being what?
[03:27] <stdin> aventis: how many did you order ?
 anyone in here program the bot? <-- regarding factoids?
[03:28] <Jucato> ah nvm
[03:28] <aventis> im placing the request for last many months but every time i ceck my account on shipit page i get the above message
[03:28] <TheGateKeeper> I am trying to find some info about factoids
[03:28] <aventis> i ordered 10, then 5, then 1 but none was approved
[03:28] <hendo> i am having problems with installing java
[03:28] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: yes, I think they use supybot
[03:28] <hendo> i have 606lts dapper
[03:28] <Jucato> !bot | TheGateKeeper
[03:28] <ubotu> TheGateKeeper: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:29] <stdin> !java | hendo
[03:29] <ubotu> hendo: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:29] <PhinnFort> oh, and when i try to use OSS in mplayer, i get the following: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Invalid argument
[03:30] <TheGateKeeper> !search *
[03:30] <ubotu> Found: tvout,logs-#ubuntuforums,packages,ati-#ubuntu-xgl,picard,ubunto,fglrx-#ubuntu-xgl,kudos,buntudot,kdesu
[03:30] <TheGateKeeper> hmm
[03:31] <aventis> stdin: how can i solve this mystry why my request is not approved?
[03:31] <PhinnFort> i thought that came because amarok was using it, but it was there still, after quitting amarok
[03:32] <PhinnFort> !search alsa
[03:32] <ubotu> Found: sound,alsa-source,dmix,esd,alsa
[03:32] <stdin> aventis: hmm, maybe ask on #launchpad
[03:32] <aventis> thanks, i will check
[03:32] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, you can program factoid to give you a value when you give it a key like !bot what I was looking for was a command so that it would give a list of ALL the keys it knows
[03:32] <aventis> btw i get this message " 10 CDs requested in 2006-09-30. This request was not approved, so no  CDs were shipped. "
[03:33] <aventis> 5 CDs requested in 2006-12-09. This request was not approved, so no CDs  were shipped.
[03:33] <waylandbill> I had to wait 3 months for shipit cds one time.
[03:33] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: ah. I suppose you got an answer in #ubuntu-bots?
[03:33] <aventis> 1 CDs requested in 2006-12-24. This request was not approved, so no  CDs were shipped.
[03:33] <stdin> aventis: yeah, ask the launchpad people, I think they run shipit
[03:33] <PhinnFort> wtf... alsamixer tries to mix my video decoder...
[03:33] <waylandbill> did you have incorrect or missing info?
[03:34] <aventis> im going there
[03:34] <PhinnFort> how can i check which program uses a certain kernel module?
[03:35] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, I hope so, as the knowledge in #supybots is borderline useless :-(
[03:36] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl is a web interface to brows *all* the factoids that it knows... if that's what you were looking for...
[03:37] <aventis> there is pindrop silence in #launchpad
[03:37] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato, I am tinkering with my own
[03:38] <Jucato> ah ok
[03:39] <TheGateKeeper> I want to know how you get factoid to spit that info out
[03:40] <TheGateKeeper> seems like if you don't keep your own log you are stuffed
[03:46] <karim>  i have a new processor intel celeron D with EMT64 support.. do i install ubuntu x86-64 or stick to ubuntu x86???
[03:47] <LjL> karim: depends. if you want things like Flash, WINE, w32codecs, and others, you're better off with the x86 version
[03:47] <LjL> binary-only stuff in general
[03:47] <LjL> i think the performance advantages of the 64-bit version are relatively small
[03:47] <karim> so u recommend the x86 ordinary thing??
[03:48] <LjL> karim: i said "depends"
[03:48] <karim> but the repositories really contain most of these things for the 64bit
[03:48] <LjL> are you intending to use that sort of stuff i mentioned?
[03:48] <karim> yes
[03:48] <LjL> they quite don't
[03:48] <LjL> !flash64
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <LjL> ah nevermind
[03:49] <LjL> !flash64bit
[03:49] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:49] <LjL> karim: see, this is an example - it can be done, but it's far from as easy as with the x86 version
[03:49] <LjL> and i think in some cases other than flash, it's just quite impossible
[03:50] <karim> well... thx verymuch for hepl guys...i believe i will stick to x86..
[03:50] <karim> help...
[03:50] <LjL> !flash64 is <alias> flash64bit
[03:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[03:50] <guglielf> hello, i'd like to find the contents document of the help:/ system in konqui, and in what directory it resides, any ideas?
[03:51] <Jucato> afaik, help:/ and the ones in khelpcenter are the same
[03:51] <LjL> guglielf: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML
[03:54] <guglielf> LjL: thx, and how can I reach it within help:/? I suppose it must be something like help:/kubuntu/
[03:55] <LjL> guglielf, uhm, you can do help:/applicationname
[03:55] <LjL> like help:/konqueror for the konqueror help
[03:55] <guglielf> right
[03:56] <guglielf> so, only for apps
[03:56] <Jucato> only for KDE stuff
[03:56] <LjL> guglielf: don't know... you want the general Kubuntu help that you get from khelpcenter, right?
[03:56] <LjL> it should be somewhere
[03:57] <guglielf> ok
[03:57] <LjL> i'll do a strace
[03:57] <guglielf> i.e. help:/kubuntu/packagingguide/index.html
[03:57] <LjL>  /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en_US/khelpcenter/glossary/index.docbook is one file it opens
[03:58] <guglielf> same here
[03:59] <devilsadvocate> so edgy is officially still using 3.5.5 (kde) ?
[03:59] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: Edgy will always be "officially" using 3.5.5
[03:59] <LjL> guglielf: somehow i'm starting to believe that main khelpcenter homepage is generated dynamically
[03:59] <Jucato> it's the default that is installed with it.
[04:00] <LjL> there must be a template somewhere though
[04:00] <guglielf> LjL: ok, another one would be help:/kubuntu/desktopguide/index.html
[04:00] <LjL> yes, found that
[04:00] <guglielf> which is the same of /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/desktopguide
[04:00] <LjL> about-kubuntu  desktopguide  krelease-notes  packagingguide  serverguide
[04:00] <guglielf> yeah
[04:00] <LjL> these are the ones available under kubuntu
[04:00] <LjL> but it's still not what khelpcenter gives
[04:00] <Jucato> LjL: yes it seems that khelpcenter and help:/ dynamically generate HTML from .docbook...
[04:01] <guglielf> hmm
[04:01] <LjL> if that's the template, yes
[04:01] <guglielf> ok
[04:01] <guglielf> thanks both of you
[04:01] <devilsadvocate> hmmm... but still, a apt-get dist upgraade should  have been able to make the necessary change. but i think i see what the point is
[04:01] <guglielf> why not? :)
[04:02] <LjL> Jucato: the .docbook file i gave doesn't really seem to be the right template though
[04:02] <guglielf> Jucato: conversation is always of help, isnt it?
[04:02] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:03] <Jucato> the "template", seems to be in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/common
[04:03] <Jucato> if by template, you mean the CSS stuff...
[04:03] <Jucato> and common grapihcs/headers/footers
[04:05] <LjL> Jucato: well no, i didn't mean the CSS
[04:05] <LjL> maybe that's the only thing there is but
[04:05] <LjL> but Jucato, like the "Kubuntu Documents" heading, that must be somewhere
[04:05] <LjL> strace doesn't help at all
[04:05] <Jucato> ah
[04:06] <LjL> though it may be that it's missing some calls, since the process forks
[04:06] <LjL> i'll just grep Kubuntu Documents
[04:06] <LjL> uh, it's not in /usr/share/.../HTML
[04:08] <LjL>  /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/ is the right track i think
[04:08] <LjL>  /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/index.html.in possibly
[04:09] <LjL> well it's really all in /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/ , but mixed around
[04:09] <LjL> err i mean
[04:09] <LjL>  /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu/
[04:09] <LjL> there's the .directory file in there for instance
[04:09] <LjL> and that has "Kubuntu Documents"
[04:10] <guglielf> going to check it
[04:12] <LjL>  /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/table-of-contents.xslt is also a part of that
[04:15] <guglielf> LjL: to be more precise, what I wanted to find was the page that comes out when one opens the Help under the Kmenu.
[04:15] <guglielf> maybe it's a dynamically created page, as you stated before
[04:18] <Prisoner_> hello
[04:18] <LjL> yes guglielf, i'd got that
[04:18] <LjL> i just can't find it anywhere
[04:18] <LjL> it's *certainly* generated dynamically, and i've found a few files that contribute, i just can't put it together
[04:18] <dromer> this is strange, when I connect usb-devices, they apear in lsusb, but they are not mounted, this should be done automatically right? even after reboot this still happens
[04:18] <guglielf> ok, didnt know if I was clear enough :)
[04:18] <LjL> i must be missing the one important file
[04:19] <guglielf> LjL: hmm I see now
[04:19] <Prisoner_> hi
[04:19] <LjL> dromer, if by "USB devices" you mean memory drives, yes, they should be mounted automatically
[04:20] <dromer> LjL: flash-stick/camera, they are not mounted
[04:20] <dromer> but htey are in lsusb
[04:20] <dominik> hello world
[04:20] <guglielf> LjL: sometimes not being english mothertongue makes things complicated to explain ;)
[04:20] <LjL> dromer: i suppose you have the whole of kubuntu-desktop installed?
[04:20] <dromer> LjL: yes
[04:20] <dromer> actually ubuntu with kde desktop later
[04:20] <LjL> dromer: hmm then might it not be some conflict with the GNOME/Ubuntu automounter?
[04:21] <LjL> assuming they're different, i don't quite really know about that
[04:21] <LjL> guglielf: i'll download the khelpcenter source and see what i can
[04:21] <dromer> LjL: I don't know, it used to work just fine, just since some weeks I noticed it doesn't work correctly anymore
[04:22] <guglielf> #kubuntu-doc
[04:22] <LjL> guglielf: they have it?
[04:22] <guglielf> hmm does not exist :(
[04:22] <LjL> nah i guess there's only #ubuntu-doc
[04:22] <guglielf> only ubuntu
[04:22] <guglielf> yeah
[04:22] <LjL> but i think they're more concerned with the wiki and stuff
[04:22] <LjL> than with actual source code, that is
[04:22] <guglielf> I think so
[04:25] <PhinnFort> is adept manager safe to use?
[04:27] <Prisoner_> just downloaded some updates using adept
[04:28] <LjL> Adept is the default package managing interface on Kubuntu
[04:29] <Mightily-Oats> hey all
[04:29] <Prisoner_> KDE seems to really push this system
[04:29] <Prisoner_> looking at the system load, it's using most of the RAM
[04:31] <Mightily-Oats> im wondering if anyone can help me again.. a while ago (a few weeks) i was in here talking about my hdd, and how it kept ticking.. as though it was being put to sleep.. and then powering back up every 10 to 20 seconds.. it was a fujitsu laptop hdd (5400 8mb cache).. i recently upgraded to a seagate (7200 8mb cache)... and there is still the ticking sound... any ideas?
[04:32] <Mightily-Oats> im kinda hoping i havent got 2 dud hdds in a row
[04:32] <chuache> hi
[04:32] <Ash-Fox> Anybody came across this issue before with edgy. Hardware I've never used Linux on before, I run 'lspci', nothing is outputted, but when I run 'lspci -H1', all the hardware is seen. It looks like the kernel doesn't support the hardware, but the hardware listed doesn't seem to be that special or unique. Any ideas on what todo?
[04:32] <wheatie> Prisoner_, linux works differently then windows for example. Windows waits to access ram while linux uses it and keeps it in cache waiting to be more quickly accessed
[04:32] <Prisoner_> not a swap file issue is it?
[04:32] <bXi> Mightily-Oats: its a laptop?
[04:32] <Prisoner_> ok
[04:32] <djwilcox> hi - mac osx user just switched to kubuntu
[04:32] <Mightily-Oats> yep.. its a laptop
[04:32] <Prisoner_> thanks for the info
[04:32] <bXi> might be underpowering the HDDs then
[04:33] <Prisoner_> I'm running Kubuntu on an ancient 400mhz AMDK6 with 384MB RAM
[04:33] <Mightily-Oats> rats... was thinking it wouldnt be that cause it happens even when its running off ac
[04:34] <Ash-Fox> Prisoner_, don't expect it to be lightning fast on older hardware
[04:34] <Prisoner_> I don't
[04:34] <Prisoner_> I just wanted to play with it to see how well it works
[04:34] <Mightily-Oats> djwilcox: hope u like it :)
[04:34] <djwilcox> cheers
[04:34] <djwilcox> yer it looks good - lots of geek tools
[04:35] <djwilcox> im used to unix - just need to work out how to install software
[04:35] <Ash-Fox> It's very similar to how Solaris, FreeBSD, openbsd does.. you use a package manager
[04:35] <Ash-Fox> In Kubuntu you use adept
[04:35] <Mightily-Oats> lol yeah.. i like the mac osx interface.. smooth and sleek... but i also find it feeling like its missing stuff... still like it though :)
[04:35] <Prisoner_> I'm also going to try Xubuntu to see if I like that too, just trying to find out if Linux is an option for me
[04:36] <djwilcox> i use the mac for final cut and aperature
[04:36] <enzo> hello
[04:36] <Prisoner_> my main PC is a 1.583GHZ AMD Sempron with 512MB Ram
[04:37] <djwilcox> do you use the package manager to install software or the terminal with apt
[04:37] <djwilcox> dont see a lot of software in the package manager
[04:38] <Mightily-Oats> i like the terminal apt.. but i find synaptic to be a great app for search and install.. but if i know the app name i apt it
[04:38] <Prisoner_> If I decide to use Linux, that machine will be one it runs on
[04:38] <dominik> Hello guys, I have mp3 files that I loaded to my Kubuntu computer, but the keffeine media palyer wouldn't play it...is there any player that can play mp3 files?
[04:39] <tsdgeos> !mp3
[04:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <emp__> dominik: vlc media player
[04:39] <djwilcox> vlc player
[04:39] <emp__> for all your media
[04:39] <emp__> works always
[04:39] <emp__> wonderful thing :)
[04:39] <djwilcox> does it work with h264
[04:39] <dominik> emp__: do I need to download it ??
[04:40] <emp__> yes
[04:40] <emp__> install it with adept package manager
[04:40] <tsdgeos> djwilcox: yes
[04:40] <Mightily-Oats> dominik: install libxine-extracodecs
[04:40] <emp__> just search video lan or vlc i think
[04:40] <dominik> emp__: I hate to sound stupid, but what is the full name for vlc, and where do I get it?
[04:41] <bXi> google for vlc and you'll find it
[04:42] <dominik> cheers guys, I will check it out!
[04:42] <emp__> video lan
[04:42] <djwilcox> vlc link: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[04:43] <emp__> just go to your packet manager
[04:43] <emp__> type
[04:43] <emp__> vlc
[04:43] <emp__> right button request install
[04:43] <emp__> done!
[04:44] <djwilcox> to install vlc go to the adept manager and type in vlc
[04:45] <djwilcox> but nothing seems 2 b listed - am i being dense or what
[04:46] <pucko-> have you added the universe repository?
[04:47] <djwilcox> linux nube - just switched from maco osx - no idea what i am doing
[04:47] <DettoAltrimenti> I'm trying to connect to a wireless connection on kubuntu that requires a username and password- where can I fill in this information?
[04:47] <|Daisuke_Ido|> is it true that edgy broke a lot of compatibility with rt61-based wireless cards?
[04:48] <djwilcox> does edgy work with airport extreme cards and wpa
[04:49] <klausos> how can i make knetwork auto-connects to my home wpa wireless network without asking me all the times for the wlan's password????
[04:49] <emp__> djwilcox: google on sources.list
[04:49] <emp__> and add edgy universe
[04:49] <emp__> that will fix it
[04:49] <djwilcox> cheers
[04:49] <djwilcox> cool
[04:49] <emp__> its in /etc/sources.list
[04:50] <emp__> you have to edit it as root
[04:50] <emp__> and add the edgy universe
[04:50] <emp__> google will tell u how
[04:50] <emp__> =)
[04:50] <|Daisuke_Ido|> or just go in and uncomment the universe/multiverse lines that are already in there.
[04:50] <djwilcox> google is your friend
[04:50] <emp__> well I updated from dapper |Daisuke_Ido|
[04:50] <emp__> so i wouldnt know
[04:50] <emp__> =)
[04:51] <|Daisuke_Ido|> yeah, the universe.multiverse lines are there in edgy, just commented out.  you can uncomment them in adept, or use synaptic to enable them without messing with the sources.list file
[04:52] <emp__> i dont mess
[04:52] <emp__> xD
[04:52] <|Daisuke_Ido|> hehe
[04:52] <emp__> but good to know
[05:00] <julius> hi
[05:01] <julius> please somebody help me with red conections in red hat linux???
[05:02] <julius> please
[05:03] <|Daisuke_Ido|> this is a channel for kubuntu-related issues, you might want to see if there are any areas for fedora core support
[05:05] <gael_> Bonjour a tous J'essaie de faire tourner Zuma en utilisant Wine mais je n'ai pas d'acceleration materielle
[05:05] <crazy_penguin> good afternoon to everybody
[05:05] <Jucato> !fr | gael_
[05:05] <ubotu> gael_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:06] <ucordes> !botsnack
[05:06] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:07] <ucordes> !mp3
[05:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i'm going to go ahead and try to drop back to dapper on the other pc, since rt61 support appears to be broken in edgy...
[05:10] <wimpies> hi all, When I insert an audio CD I get this dialog asking what to do .  When I select open in new window I am supposed to see the content of the CD but I get an error claiming I have no access to /dev/hdc (which I have) ?
[05:22] <Balsamic_Chicken> does wireless connection go bad on bad weather? as in is it supposed to
[05:22] <superkirbyartist> Can someone help me with Ekiga please?  I keep getting "Registration failed:timeout" errors!
[05:22] <eaf> hello
[05:22] <ubuntu__> hello
[05:23] <ubuntu__> how to install kubuntu two sata disk
[05:23] <superkirbyartist> I really need help with ekiga.
[05:23] <cob> what is the name of the french forum for kubuntu ?
[05:23] <ubuntu__> raid 0 please
[05:23] <ubuntu__> how to raid 0
[05:23] <superkirbyartist> #kubuntu-fr cob
[05:23] <cob> thinks
[05:24] <eaf> when i install some software like amsn.deb i will need a lot of files= how can i install all this files easy ??
[05:25] <pablin29> hi
[05:25] <Jucato> !amsn | eaf
[05:25] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[05:25] <Jucato> eaf: install from the repository. that will handle all dependencies (those files you mentioned)
[05:27] <blindside_> pffft kopete ftw
[05:28] <TheHermit> HOw to make beryl the deffuclt windo manager
[05:28] <TheHermit> sorry defualt*
[05:29] <Jucato> !beryl | TheHermit
[05:29] <ubotu> TheHermit: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:29] <solemnwarning> I'm trying to setup ndiswrapper but modprobe ndiswrapper fails with invalid arg
[05:29] <carlos_> I have bought a laptop Acer 3690, but i am not able to connect to internet by wireless (eth1). Eth1 is not activated. How to activate it
[05:29] <solemnwarning> What should I do?
[05:29] <TheHermit> okay
[05:34] <dominik> thanks guys, I just finished installing the vlc on my computer and its playing like magic :)
[05:35] <dominik> you guys are very good at explaining things to us beginners
[05:40] <carlos_> anyone does know how to activate eth1 on kubuntu:
[05:40] <carlos_> [14:40]  <carlos_> anyone does know how to activate eth1 on kubuntu
[05:41] <erhanr> carlos_:  ifconfig eth1 up
[05:43] <erhanr> i can ping my lan pc and i can ping from other pc to lan .but i cant connecting from other pc to .net
[05:44] <erhanr> whats wrong ? when i ping google it keeps says its unknown host
 from the machine that says unknown host for google, can u ping the other machines?
[05:45] <erhanr> well i just have one lan pc
[05:46] <erhanr> well i cant ping modem's ip from other pc which cant connect internet
[05:46] <Mightily-Oats> ok.. is the right dns server in the /etc/resolv.conf file?
[05:47] <erhanr> i write /etc/resolv.conf    eth1's ip -thats on server-
[05:48] <erhanr> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370&page=1  < i did like there
[05:48] <ReTyPe> http://rafb.net/p/Ex3zIJ92.html > my Kubuntu 64 7.04 update went wrong
[05:49] <dominik_> I am not anymore able to download anything with adept.. no error messages, just no dl
[05:50] <erhanr> dominik do you try apt-get or aptitude ?
[05:50] <dominik_> yes
[05:50] <erhanr> and nothing ?
[05:50] <dominik_> i tried to connect to ip but it suddenly stops
[05:51] <nickirmizban> ok
[05:51] <nickirmizban> i can help you
[05:51] <nickirmizban> you motherfucker
[05:51] <ReTyPe> i have somethimes problems to, its my network settings, i neet to edit my /etc/resolv.conf with my isp dns servers
[05:52] <eimajenthat> I'm getting an APT error.  It says "dpkg: error processing wpasupplicant (--purge): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal."  But how do I reinstall it?
[05:53] <dominik_> 0% [Verbinde mit <IP_ADDRESS> ]  and nothing happens
[05:53] <ReTyPe> dominik_:  what is in your resolv.conf ???   cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:53] <erhanr> maybe its about source list
[05:53] <dominik_> mom i'll have a look
[05:54] <eimajenthat> How do I reinstall a package in APT?
[05:54] <dominik_> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> only one line
[05:54] <carlos_> erhanr> The answer was: No such file or directory.
[05:55] <dominik_> shall i delete "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[05:55] <mendred> eimajenthat: try using --reinstall
[05:55] <Jucato> eimajenthat: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to have any idea what todo with my 'lspci' issue? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2070713
[05:55] <eimajenthat> thanks
[05:56] <erhanr> no exist reinstall  in apt .was it ?
[05:56] <dominik_> y
[05:58] <erhanr> carlos_: do you see with  lspci your second (eth1) network card name ?
[06:04] <carlos_> erhanr> yes. The answer is
[06:04] <carlos_> 0000:06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]
[06:04] <carlos_>  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[06:08] <dominik_> Last week i used to connect to a proxy server in our computer room at school, could i have changed there some important settings?
[06:09] <dominik_> if i make "fetch updates" in adept it only goes till 24%
[06:10] <Ilpo> Mills tavalla KDE:n asetukset saatiin talletettua poistumatta KDE:st?
[06:10] <Ilpo> oops
[06:11] <Ilpo> How I can save KDE settings without quitting it?
[06:11] <ReTyPe> how do i play mp4 files ?
[06:11] <ReTyPe> in kubuntu 64 7.04
[06:11] <nanda> Ilpa: try clicking "apply"?
[06:11] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ReTyPe about feisty | ReTyPe, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:12] <Ilpo> But When I restart computer old settings becomes again.. in some cases
[06:12] <nanda> strange
[06:12] <Ilpo> Like amount of desktop windows etc.
[06:13] <ReTyPe> thx LjL i know that
[06:13] <Ilpo> I do quit and then start :)
[06:13] <LjL> ReTyPe: not really, since you asked here rather than in #Ubuntu+1
[06:14] <wheatie> you need to K and  "logout" or " restart" for kde to remember your desktop settings IE: windows you left open, and aps in the taskbar generally
[06:14] <EyesOnMe[TechWiz> can anyone help with my ipod mini please
[06:14] <wheatie> rebooting in console dosnt save desktop settings by default
[06:14] <EyesOnMe[TechWiz> can anyone
[06:14] <EyesOnMe[TechWiz> help
[06:14] <solemnwarning> I'm trying to setup a Linksys WPC54G pccard with ndiswrapper, but I don't have a wlan0 interface
[06:15] <solemnwarning> At first I had wlan0, but after a crash and reboot it disappeared
[06:15] <solemnwarning> What should I do?
[06:15] <wheatie> solemnwarning,  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[06:16] <wheatie> you should find either eth1 or wlan0
[06:16] <FreshPrince> hi
[06:16] <FreshPrince> PhinnFort, u here?
[06:16] <FreshPrince> cpk1, ? :(
[06:16] <solemnwarning> The card registered as eth1, but ifup is acting as if it's an ethernet card
[06:17] <EyesOnMe[TechWiz> my ipod mini
[06:17] <EyesOnMe[TechWiz> has sad face
[06:17] <FreshPrince> u remember i've encoded the movie to a vcd.. but the movie is too big now.. -> 1.7G    Baabul-1.mpg
[06:17] <FreshPrince>  why that?
[06:17] <EyesOnMe[TechWiz> i cant fix it
[06:18] <wheatie> solemnwarning, it technically is a network card... you can simply rename the device if you like but it's only going to make a cosmetic name change
[06:18] <solemnwarning> It's not working as a wifi card
[06:18] <Ilpo> How about release of KDE 3.5.6 to Dapper?
[06:18] <solemnwarning> I'm getting link down errors when I try ifup
[06:19] <solemnwarning> When I put the card in errors about Microcode "....fw" not available or load failed
[06:19] <solemnwarning> In dmesg
[06:19] <wheatie> IIpo dapper is an LTS  version and debs are not available for it
[06:20] <Ilpo> wheatie, does it come some day to Dapper?
[06:20] <wheatie> solemnwarning, you'll need to then probably install the firmware as its probably closed-source and not able to ship with ubuntu
[06:20] <solemnwarning> I've read a thread in ubuntu forums, loads of people got this card working, nothing about this error
[06:21] <wheatie> the point of Dapper isnt to have the latest and greatest software.. It's purpose is to be a stable release which causes minimal headaches
[06:21] <Ilpo> ok
[06:21] <Ilpo> thats good aim
[06:21] <wheatie> llpo, if you want bleeding "edge" go to edgy
[06:22] <lamarieta> Hi everybody
[06:22] <wheatie> solemnwarning, i'd suggest perhaps posting on those forums then the output of your dmseg and perhaps the people whome have your hardwarde can be of better assistance then myself?
[06:22] <|Daisuke_Ido|> solemnwarning: what revision of the wmp54g?
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> because i'm having similar issues
[06:23] <solemnwarning> lspci says rev 03
[06:23] <lamarieta> Using Dapper Drake Kubuntu and trying to install easyubuntu
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i don't recommend easyubuntu, it can break things easily
[06:23] <lamarieta> No luck, followed the terminal commands of the homepage and got error after the first one.
[06:23] <lamarieta> OK
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> i rest my case
[06:23] <lamarieta> Autmatix then?
[06:23] <|Daisuke_Ido|> nope
[06:24] <lamarieta> Gee
[06:24] <lamarieta> Then? Stick to the oficail repositories?
[06:24] <|Daisuke_Ido|> enable universe and multiverse repositories and install via adept or synaptic
[06:24] <lamarieta> OK. Thanks lots anyhow.
[06:24] <richard> hello all
[06:24] <|Daisuke_Ido|> !sources.list
[06:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:25] <richard> anyone know how to supress the messages you get from kget?
[06:25] <|Daisuke_Ido|> enable the two i mentioned and you'll have access to *most* of what those scripts have to offer
[06:25] <FreshPrince> PhinnFort, PhinnFort cpk1 cpk1 ^_^
[06:25] <lamarieta> I'll do so, Thanks.
[06:27] <phobiac> I'm interested in attempting to learn the dvorak keyboard layout, but I don't know how to switch to it with kubuntu. What I'd prefer is to be able o swtich between qwert and dvorak with a hotkey, is that possible?
[06:29] <LjL> phobiac: it's totally possible
[06:29] <LjL> phobiac: go to system settings, personal, regional and language
[06:29] <Pirate-king> hello
[06:29] <julian_> hi
[06:29] <phobiac> Aha, keyboard layouts.
[06:29] <julian_> i try to install xen on my machine
[06:30] <LjL> phobiac: go to keyboard layout, enable layouts, select a layout - two actually, perhaps -, and add it
[06:30] <LjL> phobiac: then for one layout, "layout variant" and select dvorak
[06:30] <julian_> the 2.6.17 kernel won't work, crashes with kernelpanic at boot
[06:30] <Pirate-king> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.  tring to download a podcast anyone?
[06:30] <LjL> phobiac: then yes, in keyboard shortcuts you can set that
[06:30] <Pirate-king> get that error
[06:30] <LjL> phobiac: i use Pause/Break, for the record
[06:30] <phobiac> Hmm, a problem. I've no availible layouts and the add button does nothing.
[06:30] <julian_> but xen-2.6.16 works fine, i only need nvidia and r1000 for that
[06:31] <LjL> phobiac, that happened to me to...
[06:31] <LjL> phobiac, let me see how i solved that
[06:31] <phobiac> LjL: Thank you very much.
[06:31] <julian_> i don't now how to get this building, the way with the kernel headers wont work
[06:31] <LjL> phobiac: (you did select "enable keyboard layouts" anyway, right?)
[06:31] <phobiac> LjL: Yes
[06:34] <gop> hey
[06:34] <gop> I tryed this
[06:34] <gop> hey I did this sudo chmod 600 ~/.smbcredentials then I did this sudo mount -a    but I get this "  ERROR: Unable to open credentials file!"
[06:35] <lupine_85> ...the owner of .smbcredentials is now root...
[06:35] <lupine_85> maybe/
[06:36] <LjL> phobiac: i've not forgotten, i just can't find it. it involved something ugly like making a symlink in /usr
[06:37] <phobiac> LjL: Okay, thank you again.
[06:40] <LjL> phobiac: i've found a couple of bug reports about it, but no solution
[06:40] <LjL> i should start making my .bash_history infinite length i guess
[06:41] <phobiac> Yeah, google seems to be giving little hope of a simple solution.
[06:41] <phobiac> I'll keep looking though. Thank you.
[06:41] <LjL> phobiac: did you upgrade from dapper to edgy by the way?
[06:41] <phobiac> Yeah I did, that seems to be where the issue is.
[06:42] <phobiac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309424
[06:42] <phobiac> That might work, I'll have to try it.
[06:43] <phobiac> Wait no, what exactly does xmodmap do?
[06:43] <LjL> phobiac: hm no i'm quite sure that wasn't the solution i used
[06:43] <LjL> phobiac: but the problem definitely seems to be related to upgrading from dapper to edgy
[06:44] <phobiac> Yes, odd.
[06:44] <LjL> phobiac: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/67612 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/77515
[06:44] <phobiac> http://lwn.net/Articles/175287/
[06:44] <devilsadvocate> did anyone try installing the kde4 dev. snapshot?
[06:44] <phobiac> The second comment, is that what you did?
[06:45] <grazie> I lost sound after updating some packages. Any suggestions on isolating the problem?
[06:46] <erhanr> grazie: did you try  $ sudo alsaconf   ?
[06:46] <LjL> phobiac: "create a symlink (/usr/share/X11/xkb -> /etc/X11/xkb)" <- yes this is quite possible
[06:46] <LjL> cannot swear on the directories, but it was definitely something like that
[06:47] <phobiac> How do I create a symlink?
[06:47] <LjL> phobiac: ln -s <target-file> <symlink>
[06:47] <LjL> phobiac: you'll need sudo for creating a symlink in /usr
[06:47] <phobiac> Thank you
[06:48] <LjL> phobiac: so sudo ln -s /usr/share/X11/xkb /etc/X11/xdb
[06:48] <LjL> err phobiac, no the opposite
[06:48] <LjL> phobiac: so sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xdb /usr/share/X11/xkb
[06:48] <erhanr> :) that not connect internet makes me crazy
[06:48] <phobiac> Thank you very much, let me see if that fixes it.
[06:49] <LjL> phobiac: please let me know if it does
[06:49] <phobiac> No, it didn't. :(
[06:50] <LjL> phobiac: restart X
[06:50] <LjL> phobiac: if that command gave no error, that is
[06:50] <phobiac> I know how to start x, how do you stop it?
[06:51] <LjL> phobiac: sudo invoke-rc.d stop -- but you can just press ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:51] <LjL> err, that would be sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop
[06:55] <bitbyte> can anyone link me to a good howto for adding dapper-backports to my adept repository? I need Konversation 1.0
[06:56] <LjL> Ubotu, tell bitbyte about backports | bitbyte, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:56] <bitbyte> thx
[06:57] <bitbyte> or would updating from kubuntu 5.05 to 5.10 be a better solution?
[06:57] <bitbyte> er
[06:57] <bitbyte> 6.06, sorry
[06:59] <stdin> bitbyte: what are you running now ?
[06:59] <bitbyte> 6.06
[07:00] <LjL> phobiac: so any luck?
[07:00] <andre> hello everyone
[07:00] <phobiac> Logging back in made my computer freeze, probably because I tried to start a few too many things at once. Anyway it didn't work.
[07:01] <stdin> !upgrade
[07:01] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:01] <stdin> bitbyte: there are instructions there ^^
[07:01] <LjL> phobiac: do a "ls /usr/share/X11/xkb -l" please
[07:02] <LjL> phobiac: and, besides the contents, tell me what color the last name is
[07:02] <andre> hey everyone,  I have a a harddrive that device manager recognises, but I cannot find in computer... Is there anyone that could help me out?
[07:02] <francesco_> question why is eclipse to slow on kubuntu?
[07:02] <degun> bye
[07:02] <bitbyte> stdin: is it easier to just use the al installer to upgrade it?
[07:02] <bitbyte> alternate* installer
[07:02] <francesco_> have installed eclipse from repository
[07:02] <phobiac> Okay, I think whatever I did messed something up. My computer is running 10x slower then it should be.
[07:03] <stdin> bitbyte: it will use the packages from the CD, rather than the network
[07:03] <francesco_> and a code compl... is to slow
[07:03] <phobiac> total 4
[07:03] <phobiac> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-11 15:51 compiled
[07:03] <phobiac> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   12 2007-01-27 12:49 xkb -> /etc/X11/xk
[07:03] <francesco_> eclipse make me crazy
[07:03] <bitbyte> yes, i am downloading the 6.10 dvd right now, i had planned on using it to do an upgrade, would doing it some other route be a better solution?
[07:04] <phobiac> The last file is lightblue -> darker blue
[07:04] <LjL> phobiac: ok (i assume you just skipped the last character from the past)
[07:04] <andre> hey everyone,  I have a a harddrive that device manager recognises, but I cannot find in computer... Is there anyone that could help me out?
[07:04] <LjL> phobiac: what is that "compiled" thing though?
[07:04] <phobiac> Oh oops, I must have. There should have been a b at the end of it.
[07:04] <stdin> bitbyte: well, there is an "official" way, and a "painless" way
[07:04] <phobiac> I honestly have no idea.
[07:05] <bitbyte> i want the painless way, hehe
[07:05] <phobiac> It's a folder with a readme file.
[07:05] <erhanr> i solved my problem
[07:05] <erhanr>  DNS: The same DNS as the first PC
[07:05] <phobiac> "The X server uses this directory to store the compiled version of the
[07:05] <erhanr> its weird but its
[07:06] <stdin> bitbyte: the official way with the cd/dvd is to run "kdesu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade", but the other way is to follow instructions here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[07:06] <phobiac> current keymap and/or any scratch keymaps used by clients." Fist line in the file.
[07:06] <LjL> phobiac: oh, that means you already had that directory
[07:06] <LjL> phobiac: the link wasn't created in the right position
[07:06] <bitbyte> ok, thats the link you already gave me
[07:07] <stdin> bitbyte: you can add the cd/dvd as a source before to use the packages on the cd/dvd with "sudo apt-cdrom add" (after you burn it)
[07:07] <bitbyte> is the "official way" problematic?
[07:07] <LjL> phobiac: does it *only* contain a readme file?
[07:07] <phobiac> There's two folders in /usr/share/X11/xkb
[07:07] <phobiac> One is named compiled, the other is (I assume) the symlink.
[07:07] <LjL> phobiac: you assume right... but in compiled, there's only a readme?
[07:07] <phobiac> Yes
[07:07] <bitbyte> so if i boot off the 6.10 dvd, there's not an upgrade selection?
[07:07] <stdin> bitbyte: yeah, because some of the main packages have changed names, and Kubuntu doesn't have a nice way to make sure it gets the correct dependences like Ubuntu does
[07:08] <LjL> phobiac: then "sudo rm /usr/share/X11/xkb -r", take care typing this of course
[07:08] <stdin> bitbyte: no, you don't boot from it
[07:08] <bitbyte> ok, thanks
[07:08] <stdin> bitbyte: you use it as on apt source
[07:08] <bitbyte> ok
[07:08] <LjL> phobiac: then make the link again, "sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xdb /usr/share/X11/xkb"
[07:08] <bitbyte> i'll follow the instructions in the link you gave me
[07:08] <bitbyte> thanks for the help
[07:08] <LjL> phobiac: or perhaps just make a backup instead of removing
[07:08] <stdin> you're welcome :)
[07:09] <LjL> phobiac: sudo mv /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb-backup
[07:09] <LjL> then recreate the link anyway
[07:09] <phobiac> I already removed it.
[07:09] <LjL> phobiac: well, that's ok, it didn't really contain anything anyway
[07:09] <phobiac> Now there's a link witha little lock symbol on it in /usr/share/X11
[07:10] <LjL> phobiac: ok, try the keyboard layout applet
[07:10] <phobiac> Aha, it works!
[07:10] <LjL> cool
[07:10] <phobiac> Thank you :D
[07:10] <LjL> i'll add this to the bug report, it's about time someone fixes it ;)
[07:11] <phobiac> So just modify one of these layouts to be dvorak?
[07:12] <djwilcox> hi just trying to change my sources.list - but a bit baffled
[07:12] <phobiac> Ohh okay, there's a layout variant option.
[07:12] <LjL> phobiac: yes, that's the idea
[07:12] <LjL> not sure if you can use two layouts with the same nationality though
[07:13] <LjL> but i guess you could just use, say a US layout an a US-extended one - if you're in the US
[07:13] <phobiac> It works. Just added a us layout and chaged the layout variant to dvorak.
[07:13] <phobiac> How do I switch though?
[07:13] <djwilcox> found several different sets of instructions on google but not sure which is right
[07:13] <LjL> phobiac: apply that, and go back to system settings
[07:13] <phobiac> Okay
[07:13] <LjL> phobiac: go to keyboard & mouse, keyboard shortcuts
[07:14] <LjL> phobiac: in the "Search" box, type "layout"
[07:14] <phobiac> Aha, found it.
[07:14] <phobiac> It's right at the bottom, alt+ctrl+K
[07:14] <LjL> phobiac: click on the entry, then click on the big key icon at the bottom, and choose your key
[07:14] <LjL> phobiac: well i use Pause, it's basically unused and it's handy
[07:15] <LjL> phobiac: you can also have a panel icon to switch if you prefer
[07:15] <LjL> phobiac: that's in the settings you were in before, the following tab
[07:16] <phobiac> Ahaha, for a second there I couldn't find the K key and couldn't switch back.
[07:16] <phobiac> I'll think I'll set it to pause...it doesn't move around.
[07:16] <phobiac> Thank you very much.
[07:16] <LjL> right =)
[07:16] <LjL> yw
[07:17] <phobiac> I'm off now
[07:17] <djwilcox> anyone know where to look for sources.list for edgy
[07:18] <djwilcox> want to install vlc + lamp
[07:19] <LjL> !easysource | djwilcox
[07:19] <ubotu> djwilcox: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:19] <LjL> !lamp
[07:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:20] <LjL> !vlc
[07:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:20] <eimajenthat> Is it possibe to get Flash Player for Konqueror?
[07:20] <devilsadvocate> djwilcox, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:20] <LjL> eimajenthat: most certainly
[07:20] <LjL> Ubotu, tell eimajenthat about flash | eimajenthat, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:20] <djwilcox> cheers
[07:20] <LjL> eimajenthat: there should be conqueror instructions on the page
[07:20] <LjL> djwilcox: vlc is sudo apt-get install vlc, it's in universe
[07:20] <djwilcox> linux nube just switched from mac osx
[07:20] <eimajenthat> LjL: thanks much, sorry I didn't think of asking the bot myself
[07:21] <LjL> eimajenthat: just remember to rescan for plugins in konqueror if it doesn't seem to work at first try
[07:21] <djwilcox> think i need to set up universe in the souces.list
[07:21] <LjL> Ubotu, tell djwilcox about repos | djwilcox, see the private message from Ubotu
[07:21] <LjL> djwilcox: either use the instructions i just sent you, or use source-o-matic
[07:27] <TheHermit> How to add beryl to sesion
[07:28] <ziza> hey ppl, is there an alternative to cdrecord on linux. it seems like it doesn't want to burn a cd for me :( (using it through k3b)
[07:28] <djwilcox> how do i right click with a one button mouse
[07:28] <Ilpo> Which cd-player you have?
[07:29] <djwilcox> is there a setting in the system prefs for the keyboard 2 chnge this
[07:30] <ziza> my cd-recorder is Plextor PX-W4012A
[07:31] <Ilpo> ziza, you can search with Google and keywords of those plextor and cdrecord and perhaps linux
[07:31] <ziza> cdrecord apparently demands a cue-sheet, but i don't have one. why should i need one? i'm just trying to burn a simple knoppix cd (and a kubuntu cd after that)
[07:32] <ziza> ah, i'll try to write in RAW-mode :)
[07:32] <ziza> read that in the error message
[07:32] <ziza> hope that'll work
[07:33] <erik> i need help with apt and sources.list - what addresses shal i put there to be able to install superkaramba?
[07:34] <erik> anyone?
[07:35] <djwilcox> someone pointed me to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:36] <djwilcox> im trying to work out how to change sources.list
[07:36] <djwilcox> but i cant work out how to right click using a one button mouse
[07:36] <djwilcox> ahhhhhhhh
[07:36] <|Daisuke_Ido|> ctrl-click, shift-click?
[07:36] <djwilcox> ill try
[07:37] <djwilcox> i cant right click with ctrl or shift
[07:37] <|Daisuke_Ido|> hmm
[07:38] <ziza> do you have a context key on your keyboard?
[07:38] <djwilcox> do i need to change th system prefs for keyboard
[07:38] <djwilcox> mac keyboard
[07:38] <ziza> bad luck :)
[07:38] <|Daisuke_Ido|> might be better to change system prefs for the mouse
[07:38] <djwilcox> linux nube - how do i do that
[07:39] <djwilcox> first day on linux
[07:39] <TheHermit> plz any one know to add beryl window manager to the session
[07:39] <TheHermit> how*
[07:41] <ziza> goddamn cd-recorder. it just hangs now when i want to burn something using the RAW option. but i managed to burn a gentoo, kubuntu cd earlier using linux. :(
[07:44] <ziza> doesn't want to spit out the blank cd, although it's just a simulation. :((
[07:51] <andre> hello all again :)
[07:52] <FreshPrince> Phlosten, cpk1
[07:52] <FreshPrince> stdin, yre u here?
[07:52] <stdin> um, yeah, for a bit
[07:53] <FreshPrince> stdin, ok :D u remember my problem yesterday?
[07:53] <FreshPrince> my question about encoding movie to vcd
[07:53] <stdin> ah, yeah, I think  :P
[07:53] <FreshPrince> heeh
[07:53] <FreshPrince> well i already did that
[07:54] <FreshPrince> but the movie is now about 1 GB..
[07:54] <FreshPrince> why this? oO
[07:54] <FreshPrince> 1.7G    Baabul-1.mpg
[07:54] <stdin> how long is it (time)?
[07:54] <FreshPrince> ehm.. wait
[07:55] <FreshPrince> acutally the movie is
[07:55] <FreshPrince> 698M
[07:55] <FreshPrince> but now after encoding to vcd. its 1.7 GB -.-
[07:56] <stdin> what, before you used ffmpeg it was 698MB ?
[07:56] <FreshPrince> how can i check how long it is ?
[07:56] <FreshPrince> stdin, yes
[07:56] <stdin> what format was it in?
[07:56] <FreshPrince> .avi
[07:57] <stdin> try hovering your cursor over it, and see if you get the time, or in properties -> Meta info
[07:57] <stdin> and see if you can see a codec
[07:58] <FreshPrince> Selected audio codec: [mp3]  afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
[07:58] <FreshPrince> oO
[07:59] <FreshPrince> Selected video codec: [mpeg12]  vfm: libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2))
[07:59] <stdin> is that the avi ?
[07:59] <FreshPrince> no
[08:00] <FreshPrince> the .mpg
[08:00] <FreshPrince> the vcd one
[08:00] <stdin> look at the avi one
[08:00] <FreshPrince> Selected video codec: [ffodivx]  vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-4)
[08:01] <FreshPrince> ah ok i got it
[08:01] <FreshPrince> i can see it with gmplayer
[08:01] <FreshPrince> the movie is 02:49:00 long
[08:01] <FreshPrince> from avi
[08:02] <stdin> ahh, that's probably too long
[08:02] <FreshPrince> and the .mpg one is 02:49:01
[08:02] <stdin> cds can only have about 80mins of video on them
[08:02] <FreshPrince> too long?
[08:02] <FreshPrince> ah..
[08:02] <FreshPrince> ys right..
[08:02] <FreshPrince> your right.. hm
[08:02] <FreshPrince> hehe
[08:02] <FreshPrince> shit :D
[08:02] <stdin> merde
[08:02] <stdin> ^^ french
[08:03] <FreshPrince> that means i need a dvd to watch them on a dvd player
[08:03] <stdin> yaeh
[08:03] <FreshPrince> stdin, yes i know ;) tu parlais francais bien? :P
[08:03] <FreshPrince> u are from uk :)
[08:03] <stdin> dude, I can't speak french, only swear in it :P
[08:04] <FreshPrince> hehe :D
[08:04] <stdin> yeah, im from the uk
[08:04] <FreshPrince> uk is nice ;)
[08:04] <stdin> cold atm tho
[08:04] <FreshPrince> yup know :)
[08:04] <genii> !lives
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <genii> Hmm
[08:05] <FreshPrince> ^^
[08:05] <zyth> Can anyone tell me why, when I'm copying 27 gb of files from one HD to the other, some apps just dont open when I run them? (Amaroq, for instance)
[08:05] <FreshPrince> hm
[08:05] <zyth> once the copy finishes, it opens fine
[08:05] <underdog5004> hangovers just plain suck!
[08:05] <underdog5004> zyth, you may be exhausting your RAM cache
[08:05] <FreshPrince> stdin, well i came in this channel for help... -> k3b ^^ but i'm not a kubuntu user
[08:05] <zyth> underdog5004: shouldn't my swap help w/ that?
[08:05] <underdog5004> hey genii
[08:06] <underdog5004> zyth, yeah, you'd think...how big is it?
[08:06] <zyth> my swap? umm one sec
[08:06] <underdog5004> lol, my swap is bigger than your swap...
[08:06] <stdin> FreshPrince: there is also #kde
[08:06] <FreshPrince> stdin, yes i know. :)
[08:06] <zyth> hm I don't seem to have that KDE partition tool
[08:06] <zyth> odd.
[08:07] <underdog5004> zyth, do top in a konsole
[08:07] <underdog5004> you should be able to see it, I believe...
[08:07] <underdog5004> maybe fdisk -l ...not sure about that one
[08:07] <stdin> but now I'm going to eat my dinner, it's 7pm and I'm hungry, back soon :)
[08:07] <zyth> ok
[08:07] <underdog5004> syl stdin
[08:07] <genii> underdog5004 Hiya matthew
[08:08] <zyth> 3028212k total, 3010536k free
[08:08] <zyth> so its not the swap ;)
[08:08] <underdog5004> genii, have you heard of irish carbombs? I had 5
[08:09] <underdog5004> zyth, hmmm, I don't know then...sorry
[08:09] <underdog5004> genii, any ideas?
[08:09] <zyth> underdog5004: and DMA is on.. well, not on the SATA drive, it doesnt seem to like dma
[08:09] <zyth> but on my IDE drive it's on.
[08:09] <underdog5004> zyth...and are you transferring from hard drive to hard drive or over a network?
[08:09] <zyth> HD to HD
[08:10] <zyth> um /dev/hdd to /dev/sda
[08:10] <zyth> both are ext3 partitions
[08:10] <underdog5004> hmm, I don't know
[08:10] <zyth> yeah, its weird.
[08:10] <zyth> just turns my system to goo.  lol
[08:10] <underdog5004> lol, are you on a livecd?
[08:11] <zyth> nup, installed to HD
[08:11] <zyth> havent changed my kernel to an i686 one yet, still using stock
[08:11] <zyth> but I don't see that making a difference
[08:11] <genii> underdog5004 Is that some mixed drink? Otherwise I understand irish carbombs to be a result of the IRA at work ...
[08:12] <soulrider> !cedega
[08:12] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:12] <zyth> ...and it doesnt' run Guild Wars properly.  Boo.
[08:13] <underdog5004> I remember having that problem when I used DSL (Damn Small Linux)
[08:13] <zyth> hm
[08:13] <zyth> ever find out what caused it?
[08:13] <underdog5004> genii, you drop a half/half shot of baileys and whisky into a pint of guiness
[08:14] <underdog5004> zyth, nope, just let it chug away
[08:14] <zyth> lol
[08:14] <underdog5004> man, I hate puking...puked my 100 dollar retainer into the toilet last night...then flushed...
[08:15] <zyth> k.. copy done
[08:15] <zyth> works fine now
[08:15] <zyth> haha
[08:15] <FreshPrince> anyway... that for the help
[08:15] <genii> underdog5004 Lots of gatorade is my suggestion... rehydration
[08:15] <FreshPrince> @ stdin
[08:15] <FreshPrince> *thanks
[08:16] <zyth> I use water.
[08:16] <zyth> lol
[08:16] <zyth> but I don't get hung over, ever
[08:16] <underdog5004> meh, I've been hearing grease...grease and water...
[08:17] <underdog5004> apparently the grease absorbs the alky...
[08:17] <zyth> alcohol is fat soluble
[08:17] <underdog5004> my first time getting drunk...oh well
[08:17] <underdog5004> zyth, that's good, right?
[08:17] <underdog5004> lol
[08:17] <genii> Well, I used to always go eat a huge breakfast of bacon and eggs after a rough night which seems to help if you can keep it down
[08:18] <soulrider> !upgrade
[08:18] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:18] <underdog5004> got two mcdonalds hash browns and a sausage mcmuffin...
[08:18] <underdog5004> I'm loving it...
[08:18] <zyth> yes, I am sure you are
[08:18] <zyth> eww
[08:18] <zyth> lol
[08:18] <underdog5004> and a big cup of OJ
[08:19] <jhutchins> Yeah, replace electrolytes.  Sugar in reasonable quantities helps break down some of the nasties.
[08:19] <underdog5004> genii, which program do you use for irc server?
[08:19] <jhutchins> Exercise helps a lot.
[08:19] <underdog5004> jhutchins, gotcha covered...oj and walked to work...
[08:19] <underdog5004> the whole 5 blocks
[08:19] <genii> underdog5004 hybrid7
[08:19] <underdog5004> lol
[08:19] <underdog5004> available in repos?
[08:20] <genii> underdog5004 and en eggrop bot to monitor channels
[08:20] <underdog5004> genii, you use a bot to keep channels open?
[08:20] <johnn> hi is there a way to find out which packages are installed from 3rd party repos? (something like apt-cache policy for all packages) ?
[08:20] <genii> underdog5004 Yeah it's in there ... I think name is like ircd-hybrid   or similar
[08:20] <underdog5004> ok
[08:20] <underdog5004> genii, lotta config involved?
[08:21] <genii> yes
[08:21] <underdog5004> ah, I'm finally keeping food down...yay
[08:21] <underdog5004> bummer
[08:21] <underdog5004> I hate config...oh well...
[08:21] <zyth> why is java asking me to agree to a dlj license, isnt it GPL now?
[08:21] <underdog5004> It's amazing the wealth of knowledge available to me here...everything from hangover tips to irc server help
[08:21] <djwilcox> hi anyone know to to get a one button mouse to right click
[08:22] <zyth> djwilcox: hold down ctrl I think, or windows key
[08:22] <underdog5004> djwilcox, did you try control+click?
[08:22] <jhutchins> djwilcox: Usually use a mod key as above.
[08:22] <genii> underdog5004: Yeah it's your one-stop info channel ;)
[08:22] <zyth> well unless its an apple
[08:22] <zyth> lol
[08:22] <djwilcox> yer just wont work
[08:22] <underdog5004> yer?
[08:22] <djwilcox> yer using an apple keyboard and mouse
[08:22] <jhutchins> djwilcox: Try the apple, shift, and splat keys.
[08:22] <djwilcox> whats splat
[08:22] <underdog5004> splat...nice
[08:22] <underdog5004> the splat sigh
[08:22] <underdog5004> sign
[08:23] <underdog5004> cloverleaf
[08:23] <underdog5004> lol, got an old performa 6360 here in the shop
[08:23] <genii> "option" key LOL
[08:23] <djwilcox> i going to hunt down pingu and kill him if i cant get this mouse working
[08:24] <underdog5004> pingu? who is he and why?
[08:24] <djwilcox> pingu is a penguin
[08:24] <genii> underdog5004: I just stripped an old ppc 603 and tossed most of it.  May be a "winmodem" in which case you'll need to do some compiling or so on
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> eep, ie just learned the ls and cd commands
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> i couldnt compile even if i knew what that was
[08:30] <YumeNoEien> im pretty new to linux
[08:31] <Bxnp> how can i build a deb package from source
[08:31] <genii> If it's an Intel537 or Lucent there are drivers you can install without much problem. But Conexant are a headache
[08:31] <YumeNoEien> :(
[08:31] <Tpm_bwana> I have a dual-boot system. I have 20G HD space devoted to Ubuntu Mint, and 60G HD space to Kubuntu. I would like to change this to 10G Kubuntu, and 70G to Mint. Any way to do this with say..QTparted, without reinstalling one or the other?
[08:32] <YumeNoEien> can i find out what kind of modem i have if i go to the root/dev and do an ls command?
[08:32] <genii> no
[08:32] <Tpm_bwana> genii-that to me?
[08:32] <YumeNoEien> oh right, if it doesnt recognize it, it cant name it ^
[08:33] <genii> Sometimes the command lspci will tell you something but a lot of these winmodems don't even report to the pci controller
[08:33] <YumeNoEien> icic
[08:33] <YumeNoEien> YES!
[08:33] <YumeNoEien> intel modem
[08:33] <genii> Tpm_bwana: No, was to YumeNoEien
[08:34] <genii> Intel 537 or 536 type?
[08:34] <Tpm_bwana> I have a dual-boot system. I have 20G HD space devoted to Ubuntu Mint, and 60G HD space to Kubuntu. I would like to change this to 10G Kubuntu, and 70G to Mint. Any way to do this with say..QTparted, without reinstalling one or the other?
[08:34] <YumeNoEien> genii: a long cloud of text, but neither of those numbers
[08:35] <zyth> Tpm_bwana: you alrady asked once, spamming the same question every 3 minutes won't help
[08:35] <YumeNoEien> genii: il just type it over
[08:35] <Tpm_bwana> But your scolding me will? oh big guru?
[08:36] <genii> YumeNoEien: There is a utility on the linmodem site to probe modems. I'll see if I can find the url for ya
[08:36] <YumeNoEien> genii: thanks a lot :)
[08:36] <YumeNoEien> wow i got more help than i expected
[08:36] <zyth> hahah
[08:36] <zyth> Amarok is on crack
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> lol, whats it doing?
[08:37] <zyth> its showing the wrong CD art in context view
[08:37] <zyth> like. its got my songs confused
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> hehe
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> reboot :p
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> on the other hand
[08:37] <zyth> serious?
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> it doesnt really matter right?
[08:37] <johnn> it's like "rediscover your music" :p
[08:37] <YumeNoEien> also dont take my advice, i know nothing :p
[08:38] <genii> The file: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/linmodems/packages/scanModem.gz The main page with instructions and so on: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/linmodems/index.html#scanModem
[08:38] <YumeNoEien> genii: TY!
[08:38] <underdog5004> man, i hate modems
[08:38] <YumeNoEien> i love them, just not when they arent working
[08:38] <underdog5004> dialers, anyway
[08:38] <genii> YumeNoEien: Once you know more the specific type or chipset it will be easier to find the right way to go about installing it
[08:39] <YumeNoEien> genii: thank you, im gonna visit that link right now
[08:39] <johnn> i just got an good old external usr modem for fax ;)
[08:39] <johnn> worked for like.. 10 years ;)
[08:41] <underdog5004> nice, just set up an old pci usr controller based modem...minimal hassle
[08:41] <zyth> well, it got the album info for the kid's wiggle song right
[08:41] <zyth> go figure.
[08:41] <underdog5004> zyth, that's hilarious
[08:41] <underdog5004> !
[08:41] <genii> underdog5004: Yeah USR rocks
[08:42] <tethylis> exec kdeversion
[08:43] <underdog5004> genii, lol, had to scavenge for it in the boneyard at the shop...lol
[08:44] <underdog5004> we've got a bunch of ISA modems...
[08:44] <zyth> ISA?
[08:44] <zyth> eww
[08:44] <underdog5004> yeah
[08:44] <zyth> that.,, is scary
[08:44] <underdog5004> my sentiments exactly...
[08:44] <zyth> at least none of em are winmodems
[08:44] <zyth> lol
[08:44] <Minataku> Heya, genii :D
[08:44] <underdog5004> I think the average proc speed in the boneyard is about 400 Mhz
[08:45] <underdog5004> lol, genii has all kinds of friends...
[08:45] <underdog5004> wish I had friends...
[08:45] <Minataku> He promised me free stuff
[08:45] <Minataku> underdog5004: Do the same and I'll be your friend too
[08:45] <Minataku> XD
[08:45] <underdog5004> lol, I promised him free stuff
[08:46] <underdog5004> Minataku, got a bridge I can sell you...nice location, very close to alcatraz...
[08:46] <underdog5004> a bit misty at times...
[08:46] <underdog5004> hell, I"ll give it to you, just c'mon by and pick it up
[08:46] <FreshPrince> re
[08:46] <goop2> how do you open a '.run' file?
[08:47] <genii> Minataku Hiya :)
[08:47] <zyth> sh blah.run
[08:47] <goop2> thanks
[08:47] <underdog5004> zyth, proper etiquette: sh foo.run
[08:47] <underdog5004> lol
[08:47] <underdog5004> jk
[08:47] <zyth> foo!
[08:47] <zyth> ;)
[08:47] <Minataku> underdog5004: rofl
[08:47] <underdog5004> man, I am feelin' better!
[08:47] <goop2> heh
[08:47] <Minataku> underdog5004: Yeah, yeah, a bridge in New York, I've been there and on that bridge... I don't want it
[08:47] <Minataku> XD
[08:48] <Minataku> Wait, wrong coast
[08:48] <Minataku> lol
[08:48] <genii> underdog5004: Actually we had a lot of old Sun equipment, cleaning out the shop.  Whatever there is. I just need right now to get access tot he other office things are locked in during the construction
[08:50] <jbruckman> indefinitely*
[08:50] <Minataku> jbruckman: It could be that the torrent actually ISN'T good
[08:50] <underdog5004> jbruckman, had the same problem, use azureus
[08:51] <Minataku> Sorry, underdog5004, I've been on this lead for the past while
[08:51] <underdog5004> jbruckman, or if you can handle command line, rtorrent
[08:51] <jbruckman> Minataku: no, i know the torrent works. same torrent is downloading for a friend.
[08:51] <Minataku> Plus, I'm rabid when it comes to stuff like this
[08:51] <Minataku> Ask genii how I reacted when his boss took my IPC
[08:51] <underdog5004> I love old computers...
[08:51] <jbruckman> underdog5004: never heard of rtorrent. I'll give it a try
[08:51] <Minataku> underdog5004: Same here
[08:51] <Minataku> jbruckman: Hm...
[08:51] <underdog5004> !rtorrent
[08:51] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[08:51] <Minataku> jbruckman: Maybe ktorrent is bad
[08:51] <Minataku> XD
[08:52] <tanlaan> does easy ubuntu work for kubuntu?
[08:52] <Minataku> genii: toss in some HDDs and SCSI CD-ROM drives if any
[08:52] <genii> underdog5004: I have this ancient thing called an Alex terminal if you want something of museum-quality LOL
[08:52] <Minataku> Those buggers are hard to get
[08:52] <Minataku> I WANT IT
[08:52] <underdog5004> lol
[08:52] <jbruckman> Minataku: Well, to be honost, I'm on a school network and trying to sneak out on port 80--which my friend downstairs is managing successfully
[08:52] <Minataku> XD
[08:52] <Minataku> jbruckman: Ah
[08:52] <jbruckman> Minataku: However, I can't seem to get it to work.
[08:52] <genii> Minataku I actually have some scsi cd and so on. They are not try-loadrers tho
[08:52] <jbruckman> Minataku: His name is Admiral_Chicago, perhaps you know him?
[08:52] <genii> tray-loaders
[08:53] <Minataku> genii: That's perfectly fine
[08:53] <Minataku> I just bought two caddies
[08:53] <Minataku> lol
[08:53] <Minataku> The LX I won on eBay came with a caddy drive
[08:53] <Minataku> So I'm set there
[08:53] <tanlaan> Minataku what are you trying to do with these old parts?
[08:53] <Minataku> USe them
[08:53] <genii> OK, np then. I think they are mainly Toshiba. No Plextor
[08:53] <Minataku> I've got my SPARCstation 10 running right now
[08:53] <underdog5004> lol, I know admiral_chicago
[08:53] <Minataku> genii: Toshiba very good
[08:53] <tanlaan> Minataku: haha, nice
[08:54] <Minataku> jbruckman: Nope, don't know him, sorry
[08:54] <jbruckman> Minataku: kk. Anywya, I'm going to go work on this. Thanks for the info!
[08:54] <Minataku> jbruckman: np
[08:55] <Minataku> tanlaan: It's the middle of a SPARC stack
[08:55] <tanlaan> Minataku: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation
[08:55] <genii> btw anyone know what a mintel terminal is? I have one of those too
[08:55] <Minataku> SPARCstation LX, SPARCstation 10, SPARCstation 5/170
[08:55] <Minataku> genii: I think it's a French thing
[08:55] <underdog5004> those french
[08:56] <dhq> i need a power management tool for my laptop
[08:56] <Minataku> genii: Well, don't overstuff the box, there has to be adequate padding
[08:56] <genii> A page that has pics of both the minitel and the alex terminal if yer interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotex
[08:56] <Minataku> To compensate for how UPS treats packages
[08:56] <Minataku> lol
[08:57] <dhq> !power
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <dhq> !apci
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <Telroth|Away|Dep> anyone available to help with boot/grub/kernel problems ?
[08:57] <Minataku> !acpi
[08:57] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[08:57] <Minataku> Bleh... should explain what ACPI is
[08:57] <dhq> Minataku: is there cpu throttle etc
[08:58] <Minataku> dhq: Yeah, that's all usually handled by ACPI
[08:58] <genii> Minataku I have an excellent box-packing method :) I place everything slightly in from all the edges inside of a plastic bag then fill the cracks with expanding foam
[08:58] <Minataku> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[08:58] <Telroth|Away|Dep> Advanced (Computer?) Power Interface
[08:58] <Minataku> genii: Awesome, pack it in then :D
[08:58] <Telroth|Away|Dep> ah
[08:58] <underdog5004> genii, whoa...
[08:58] <YumeAFK> genii: thanks i used scanModem
[08:58] <Minataku> Successor to APM - Advanced Power Management
[08:58] <YumeAFK> i worked and made three files i cant make sense of but
[08:59] <YumeAFK> the site said i could mail one of the text files and a volunteer might help
[08:59] <genii> YumeAFK: Well, the webpage shows how to decipher the files. But the main thing is to find the most exact model name possible
[08:59] <YumeNoEien> k
[09:00] <helpz0r> hey i'm trying to install kubuntu from the live cd but everytime i press next after choosing my keyboard layout the screen goes all nuts with diaganol lines; can you install it from the console instead?
[09:00] <dhq> Minataku: i have acpi installed but i dont seem to controle throttle etc
[09:00] <tanlaan> speaking of old computers, ive been thinking about trying to get ahold of an old apple IIgs and try learning a programming language for it
[09:00] <genii> YumeAFK:Basically, if it's a 536 or 537 model there are drivers not too hard to install. If it's some Conexant chipset it will be a bit of an ordeal
[09:01] <Minataku> dhq: It may be controlled by the CPU itself, but you'd probably do best looking into the ACPI capabilities of your laptop
[09:01] <zorroviejo> hi people
[09:01] <Minataku> Old computers rule, I've got loads of them XD
[09:01] <dhq> Minataku: how do i do that
[09:01] <Minataku> Pisses my parents off but I don't give a flying fart
[09:01] <Minataku> dhq: Well, there's /proc/acpi
[09:01] <Minataku> Which lists a lot of interesting information
[09:02] <Minataku> I keep forgetting that 99% of the people in here don't know what a CLI is because Windows never showed them one >.<
[09:02] <tanlaan> Minataku: how old are you? *you said it pissed off your parents*