[03:08] <xubuntu78w> i like to play music in xubuntu but when blocks screen stop playing music. What can i do?
[03:10] <xubuntu78w> hi
[03:14] <pec_ar> i's like to do xubuntu dont leave to play music when blocks screen. Somebody can help me?
[03:15] <buffon137> I found the xubuntu-15.04 no local sound when testing .  Any help or suggestions ?
[03:17] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[03:18] <buffon137> gmusicbrowser cannot work
[03:34] <pec_ar> Unit193 Thank you
[03:35] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[03:41] <WhitePelican> I'm trying to install kde without the kubuntu desktop
[03:42] <WhitePelican> I used to install kde-full but it's gone now
[03:51] <holstein> WhitePelican: you should be able to search "kde" in the repos, with the package manager of your choice, and find what you want
[03:52] <holstein> !info kde-baseapps
[03:53] <holstein> maybe thats what would give you what you need
[03:54] <WhitePelican> that was not enough
[03:55] <WhitePelican> gwenview, for example can't even read my home directory
[03:56] <holstein> you mean, cannot load an image from your home directory? maybe its a file type support issue, rather than, something missing..
[04:03] <WhitePelican> problem solved: sudo apt-get install kio kinit kdelibs-bin kded5
[04:12] <WhitePelican> so basically, someone fucked up the dependencies for gwenview :P
[04:32] <bynarie> wow, dont say that in #ubuntu , youll get banned by one of the losers
[04:36] <WhitePelican> so why was kde-full deprecated without a suitable replacement?
[07:19] <Reptilia> How do i check if i use ALSA or PulseAudio as a sound server?
[07:20] <Reptilia> How do i check if i use JACK* or PulseAudio as a sound server?
[07:29] <Reptilia> How do i check if i use JACK or PulseAudio as a sound server?
[07:30] <Reptilia> I have installed the ZynAddSubFX Linux synth on a Xubuntu. Since there is no one on their official IRC channel, i will ask here. I don't get any sound from the speakers, while touching the synth keys. What are the usual causes of this? There are some troubleshooting options on the internet, but since i don't know very much about Linux audio and its architecture, i don't feel tech enough to modify something. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advanc
[07:30] <Reptilia> e.
[08:33] <buffon137> ps -ef |grep "pulseaudio"
[08:34] <buffon137> " apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras " for gmusicbrowser playing music
[08:35] <buffon137> on xubuntu 15.04  or 14.04
[08:36] <Reptilia> buffon137:I have fixed the issue, but thanks in any case :)
[08:37] <buffon137> you are welcom
[11:29] <knob> Good morning all
[12:20] <shallwe> hi guys, first time with xubuntu love it, faster than ubuntu )
[12:20] <shallwe> but a little question, can i have a bar like unity? all in one, like mac?
[12:20] <shallwe> btw xubuntu 14.04
[12:21] <bazhang> get  a dock for that
[12:21] <bazhang> apt-cache search dock  , or look in the package manager
[12:23] <shallwe> bazhang, thanks man ! i found some its called global menu :) lets try!
[12:27] <bazhang> ok
[12:33] <juvann> Hi! Need help with Dropbox on Xubuntu. My previous system was Mint and it worked like a charm, but I have troubles running it on Xubuntu. The first problem I have is that I don't know how to point Dropbox to another partition (I have a "data" partition that I share between Windows and Linux). The second thing is that it always requests root permissions (there was no need for root permissions when I was using it on Mint).
[12:40] <juvann> Hi! Need help with Dropbox on Xubuntu. My previous system was Mint and it worked like a charm, but I have troubles running it on Xubuntu. The first problem I have is that I don't know how to point Dropbox to another partition (I have a "data" partition that I share between Windows and Linux). The second thing is that it always requests root permissions (there was no need for root permissions when I was using it on Mint). If anyone has some
[12:40] <juvann> advice on this matter, that'd be great :D
[12:45] <juvann> Hi! Need help with Dropbox on Xubuntu. My previous system was Mint and it worked like a charm, but I have troubles running it on Xubuntu. The first problem I have is that I don't know how to point Dropbox to another partition (I have a "data" partition that I share between Windows and Linux). The second thing is that it always requests root permissions (there was no need for root permissions when I was using it on Mint). If anyone had some
[12:45] <juvann> advice on this matter, that'd be great :D
[13:05] <juvann> Hi! Need help with Dropbox on Xubuntu. My previous system was Mint and it worked like a charm, but I have troubles running it on Xubuntu. The first problem I have is that I don't know how to point Dropbox to another partition (I have a "data" partition that I share between Windows and Linux). The second thing is that it always requests root permissions (there was no need for root permissions when I was using it on Mint). If anyone had some
[13:05] <juvann> advice on this matter, that'd be great :D
[15:25] <tetsu> greetings, i recently upgraded to xubuntu 15.04 (from 14.10) on my laptop (Lenovo T440p) with an encrypted disk and can no longer suspend or hibernate with the laptop. I get a blank screen after opening the lid and the fan does not turn back on (indicating, I am assuming, that it is not just an issue with restarting the screen). I have looked and tried a number of different things but haven't had any success. Any help or useful redire
[15:26] <holstein> tetsu: i would start by checking what is still on, after the recovery from hibernation
[15:27] <holstein> first, is it "hibernation"? and, do you need hibernation? i find that takes the same amount of time as power off, and back on.. so, you may just want to not use hibernation
[15:27] <holstein> anyways, i would start with tty..
[15:27] <holstein> !tty
[15:28] <holstein> can i get to tty? and is the machine locked up.. then, i would think about GPU drivers, and look and see if there are updates, and what GPU drivers i have installed
[15:28] <tetsu> It does not allow me to go into the tty
[15:28] <holstein> tetsu: so, what is hung up? and how.. you know?
[15:28] <holstein> if you cant get to tty, maybe thats a kernel panic.. etc..
[15:29] <holstein> i would evoke suspend, or hibernate from the command line, and see if i see any helpful errors..
[15:29] <holstein> i would try and get the suspend, if thats what you are talking about, working with the 15.04 live iso
[15:30] <tetsu> yes, it is suspend that I am interested in
[15:31] <holstein> so, you can test that with a live iso, and see if the kernel, and drivers work well on your system
[15:31] <tetsu> ah, sudo pm-suspend worked from the command line!
[15:31] <tetsu> (and recovered)
[15:33] <tetsu> i had just totally disabled lightlocker before trying pm-suspend.
[15:33] <holstein> i would check as a different user..
[15:33] <holstein> tetsu: so, you are doing too much at once, then..
[15:33] <holstein> tetsu: just do one thing, otherwise, you dont know what is effecting what, and how..
[15:33] <holstein> could be, the locking of the screen is "breaking"
[15:34] <tetsu> holstein: would there be evidence for this in the /var/ logs?
[15:35] <holstein> tetsu: look and see.. im more of an isolate and test kind of guy
[15:39] <tetsu> thanks for the help -  I will try with a physical close, and move on to the live USB if this does not work
[15:49] <calmpitbull> hi all
[16:11] <Zetta> Hey anyone here that can help me out with a Xubuntu 15.04 issue?
[16:12] <holstein> Zetta: just ask. maybe a volunteer can assist
[16:14] <Zetta> Okay well i think the issue is with XFCE power manager because the battery applet and the application are never displaying the right charge, it is currently at zero and started at 10% this morning even though it charged all night, it also more commonly stays at 100% all day, anyone familiar with the issue or have a solution?
[16:15] <GridCube> have you tried the other battery applet?
[16:18] <Zetta> Oh no I haven't though to try another applet
[16:20] <Zetta> Where would I find this other applet?
[16:22] <holstein> Zetta: id say, if you are not having any issues, i wouldnt worry about it.. you can spend/waste a lot of time chasing these issues down
[16:22] <holstein> you can file a bug, relating to that specific hardware.. but, realistically, it may not be "fixable"..
[16:22] <holstein> wont hurt to try a few different applets.. and even different backends..
[16:23] <holstein> you can try xbattmon, and use different flags..
[16:23] <holstein> !info xbattmon
[16:24] <holstein> let me find the package name..
[16:24] <holstein> !info xbattbar
[16:25] <holstein> using it with the -c or -r flag, for example
[16:26] <holstein> i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xbattbar" then, you can run "xbattbar -c" and easily close the terminal to close battbar
[16:27] <Zetta> huh well let me try that out
[16:27] <holstein> its quite different,. and this is not a "fix" command.. just a way to try different polling methods..
[16:29] <Zetta> Yea I understand, and unfortunately it is also displaying the battery as 0% or -1%
[16:29] <holstein> i would expect the "backend" to do the same
[16:30] <Zetta> Yea I imagine that they share the same source of battery information
[16:30] <holstein> its likely not specific to xubuntu or xfce, if you want to try #ubuntu or filing a more general bug
[16:30] <holstein> to get more eyes on it..
[16:31] <Zetta> I think you may be right so I think I'll give #ubuntu a shot and see what happens
[16:32] <Zetta> Thank you for your help though
[19:32] <alex1114> Hi, I have xubuntu 14.04 on a laptop  for a few months now.. I do all the updates.. today the laptop creezed and after restart I got a message "error: invalid arch-independent ELF magic"  and the laptop enters in rescue mode.. I don't have a live cd and no means to get one today.. is there anything I can do?
[19:33] <alex1114> Why would auch a thing happen? Is it os dependent or is it because of my laptop? Any good resiurces about it?
[19:53] <bynarie> ananyone know of a program that will somehow interact with bash history to autocomplete for you.. so for example, if im typing ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i could hit a key and it would finish the rest based on history and not just change to the last command i typed
[19:53] <bynarie> ?
[19:54] <holstein> bynarie: the ! command is what i use
[19:55] <bynarie> what do u mean
[19:55] <holstein> "!ssh" autocompletes and runs the last ssh command in the history
[19:55] <holstein> you can also "!#"
[19:55] <bynarie> ahhh
[19:55] <bynarie> nice
[19:55] <bynarie> thank you
[19:55] <holstein> if, "ssh name@whatever" is #555 in your history, you can !555 it
[19:56] <holstein> you can create custom bash commands, or scripts, that would run whatever commmands you wish..
[19:56] <bynarie> yea but i would not know the number
[19:56] <bynarie> right
[19:56] <bynarie> the ! is good for me
[19:56] <bynarie> thanks
[21:47] <acz32> is there something like gimp/krita but more lightweight and suitable for xfce?
[21:48] <xangua> Not like gimp but there is pinta
[21:51] <acz32> ok, i think i've used pinta in the past


[00:10] <ScottL> troy_s, you said "that's too bad" was that because I was leaving?
[00:10] <troy_s> ScottL: No it was related to you finding something I said interesting.
[00:11] <troy_s> ScottL: I have a hunch that the -rt might be more responsive to tablet work. Just a hunch though. No real way to do a qualitative test.
[00:11] <ScottL> i wonder how many people have and use the wacom tablet thingie
[00:12] <troy_s> ScottL: In Linux? Very few. Why would you?
[00:12] <troy_s> ScottL: Chicken Egg theory.
[00:13] <troy_s> ScottL: The general outlook is pretty crappy, the software is pretty much crippled all to piss. The only real use would be for very expensive software that happens to run on linux.
[00:13] <troy_s> ScottL: Of that, there is very little that would be traditional artist based.
[00:13] <troy_s> ScottL: So I'm thinking it isn't something that is encountered or even thought about.
[00:14] <ScottL> i know very little about the wacom stuff, cory had mentioned it so I thought it might be more pervasive than it apparently is
[00:14] <troy_s> ScottL: Well I guess you could argue that it is as viable as any other input device.
[00:14] <troy_s> ScottL: In practical terms, there aren't enough dogfooders out there that actually stick with the crap we have.
[00:14] <troy_s> ScottL: So much of it evolves at glacial paces.
[00:18] <troy_s> ScottL: Still doesn't make the thought moot however. _if_ there is a place where -rt would impact illustration / painting, I'd think it was important.
[00:29] <ScottL> well, i'm a little selfish, i want -rt, -lowlatency or -preempt for my audio ;P
[00:43] <troy_s> ScottL: I'd be interested in figuring out a way to test things.
[00:43] <troy_s> ScottL: If you can get latency numbers on audio, I'd think there were ways to test latency on input devices.
[00:45] <ScottL> troy_s, I think abogani has been aggregating test numbers on the kernels
[00:46] <ScottL> i would not be available to devote time to test until the end of February
[00:46] <ScottL> February is the RPM Challenge - http://www.rpmchallenge.com/
[00:47] <ScottL> after which I would really interested in testing (and I can document how methodologies)
[00:59] <ScottL> *me wonders how he passed English when he rereads what he types on IRC
[00:59]  * ScottL fails at being l33t IRC user again!
[01:09]  * TheMuso can't stand leet speak anyway.
[07:51] <dholbach> hiya
[08:13] <TheMuso> Hey dholbach.
[08:14] <dholbach> hiya TheMuso
[08:14]  * dholbach 's very happy with xwax and the audio4dj :)
[08:14] <dholbach> although I had to upgrade it to 0.7-beta2 myself
[08:14] <TheMuso> ah ok
[08:15] <dholbach> stochastic_: if we don't want to upgrade to a beta version now (which I totally understand), I suggest we at least fix it not to depend on a non-existing font! :)
[12:37] <ScottL> jonas with the Debian Multimedia team has built hydrogen-0.9.4, i'll try to get a sync request for it today but if anyone wants to do it please go ahead as I will not get to it for hours yet
[17:46] <abogani> persia: Are you round ?
[17:47] <persia> Yes, although I'm rushing madly to be able to go to bed :)  What's up?
[17:48] <abogani> persia: No urgent: go to sleep. (~2.45). :-)
[17:48] <abogani> Good night
[17:50] <persia> abogani: No, what's up?
[17:50]  * persia would rather know the issue now, even if it can't be dealt with now
[17:51] <abogani> persia: Ok :-) I would want ask you to send the email to Kernel team (recall you offer yourself as volunteer?).
[17:52] <persia> Oh right.  Thanks for the reminder.  I'll put that on the list for the morning.
[17:52] <abogani> persia: Please before chatting with me!
[17:53] <abogani> I only request you to change body of that message.
[17:53] <persia> OK.  What do you want?
[17:53] <persia> The main point I was going to make was about 32-bit support.
[17:54] <abogani> persia: Sorry my mistake. That is the point.
[17:54] <abogani> So send it when you can. Thanks
[17:55] <persia> It seemed like there was a good bit of other discussion happening on the other points (although I'll admit to having fallen behind).
[17:56] <abogani> persia: I have exactly the opposite feel.
[17:56] <persia> How do you mean?
[17:57] <abogani> persia: No one report tests results neither on -lowlatency nor -preempt.
[17:57] <abogani> No one can tell if we have a lot i386 users.
[17:58] <persia> Ah, we're talking about different things :)
[17:58] <persia> I think that there was plenty of *theoretical* discussion on the various bits.
[17:58] <persia> I agree that there was no testing.
[18:00] <abogani> Seems to me a lot complicated.
[18:04] <persia> Sorry.  That's how I think :)
[18:05] <persia> Anyway, 29 hours is a plenty long day :)
[18:05] <abogani> Yes :)
[19:51] <ScottL_> fabrice_sp: ping
[19:53] <fabrice_sp> Hey ScottL
[19:53] <fabrice_sp> pong
[19:54] <ScottL_> fabrice_sp: is it too late to get zynjacku looked at in REVU again before the feature freeze?
[19:54] <ScottL_> i've addressed everything you mentioned except i'm having trouble getting debhelper tiny rules to work
[19:55] <fabrice_sp> if you are able to find 2 sponsors, it would be ok ;-)
[19:55] <fabrice_sp> I'll check now
[19:56] <fabrice_sp> hmm, I don't see any new upload in REVU
[19:57] <ScottL_> i haven't uploaded again, i was trying to get the rules file taken care of but haven't gotten it to work yet
[19:57] <fabrice_sp> np: FF is on the 18th, I think
[19:57] <fabrice_sp> so 2 days more
[19:57] <ScottL_> i have one more idea to try to get it to work, if I can't get it to work do you think it would be okay to use the more verbose, older rules file?
[19:58] <ScottL_> fabrice_sp: ^^^
[19:59] <fabrice_sp> the easier one would be easier to maintain, but I'm sure you'll volunteer to maintain the 'complex' one :-P
[20:00] <ScottL_> yes, i would...i would actually feel compelled since I was the packager
[20:02] <fabrice_sp> keep trying with dh7 (it should definitively work with it)
[20:04] <ScottL_> it should but i think it's something about the ./configure that messes it up (it builds in ppa and installs but can't run, even from terminal), i've been working with persia a bit using override_dh_auto_configure
[20:05] <ScottL_> but again, when I've used dh7 it builds but after installing it will not run
[20:05] <fabrice_sp> strange
[20:05] <fabrice_sp> ok, then: come back to the old style rules, deleting the comments
[20:06] <fabrice_sp> it may be some missing variables
[20:07] <ScottL_> comments were deleted on my local copy...I'll post to REVU when I get home tonight
[20:07] <fabrice_sp> ok
[20:07] <ScottL_> oh, and many, many thanks for working with me on this, you've been a big help and I've learned gads about it
[20:08] <fabrice_sp> yw ;-) it only ahs been 6 month since I am a MOTU, and also learned a lot ;-)
[20:08] <ScottL_> i'd like to work up to being a MOTU eventually, but that's a while from now me thinks :P
[20:09] <fabrice_sp> the key point is not focusing on one thing, but more being a 'generalist' :-)
[20:10] <fabrice_sp> since my first contribution to Ubuntu, it has been one year and a half to become a MOTU, so it's a long path :-)
[20:13] <ScottL_> I think i've been working with the studio developers for a few months and was never involved with building or packaging before, so I feel good with my progress so far
[20:13] <ScottL_> but I also look forward to continuing acquiring knowledge and learning new things and getting lots more packages into studio
[20:14] <ScottL_> so i'm not in a rush to be a motu but I can see practical benefits to me and the studio developers if i did
[20:14] <fabrice_sp> not only new packages: also quality of existing packages is important :-)
[20:15] <ScottL_> you mean the packaging or the intrinsic quality of the app itself?
[20:16] <fabrice_sp> I mean not only package new apps, but also upgrade or fix the existing one
[20:17] <ScottL_> yes, i understand
[20:20] <ScottL_> although i haven't worked on bug triage at this point since I don't have much experience, rather I've tried packaging where I can do it in a void (i.e. no one waiting or depending on me)
[20:20] <ScottL_> but after talking with persia lately I think that I might start also
[20:22] <fabrice_sp> good