[00:36] <champion__> can anyone help me with a firewire issue
[00:36] <champion__> ?
[00:37] <rhpot1991_laptop> maybe if you tell us what the problem is
[00:38] <champion__> i am running testlibraw and it si sayinh failed with error:Resource temporarily unavailabl
[00:39] <champion__> gscanbus is also freezing on me
[00:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> champion__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire
[00:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> documentation there is pretty good
[00:44] <champion__> mythprime is also freezing on me
[00:45] <champion__> I saw that site before
[00:51] <champion__> does mythprime freeze with anyone else?
[00:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> champion__: you have the most recent version?
[00:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> and did you use the -v flag to see whats going on?
[00:54] <champion__> .55b
[00:54] <champion__> yes, when i use -v it freezes at
[00:54] <champion__> ERROR reading oPCR0: Invalid argument
[00:54] <champion__> Skipping ghost node 0
[00:54] <champion__> those are the last two lines
[00:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> champion__: PM majoridiot on the forums
[00:56] <champion__> kind of a noob here, how do i do that
[00:57] <champion__> what forums?
[00:58] <champion__> figured it out
[00:58] <champion__> thanks
[02:39] <a1fa_> anybody running zoneminder?
[03:20] <mutation> is there an updated imdb script that also grabs the description of the movie when i grabs the poster image
[05:21] <Joemama_> i just installed mythbuntu
[05:21] <Joemama_> and i dont know my root password
[05:21] <Joemama_> er well i did a few days ago anyway
[05:21] <Joemama_> i dont think it even asked
[05:21] <Joemama_> its not the same password it asked me to give the user
[05:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> just sudo
[05:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> there is no root account by default
[05:27] <Joemama_> ahh
[05:27] <Joemama_> i was doing the troubleshooting for the UPnP thing
[05:27] <Joemama_> and it told me to type
[05:27] <Joemama_> route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/8 eth0
[05:27] <Joemama_> and it said Operation not permitted
[05:28] <Joemama_> so i thought i needed to be root or something
[05:29] <Joemama_> the UPnP server wont show up, do i need to enable it somewhere?
[05:29] <Joemama_> i checked ifconfig, it said my local address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <Joemama_> so i ran the setup thing again
[05:29] <Joemama_> and put that in as the ip
[05:35] <Joemama_> any suggestions?
[05:43] <tgm4883> Joemama_, AFAIK, the mythtv UPnP server is enabled by default
[05:43] <tgm4883> and for root access
[05:43] <tgm4883> you run sudo before the command you want
[05:43] <Joemama_> just type sudo ?
[05:43] <tgm4883> sudo 'command'
[05:43] <Joemama_> oh, testing
[05:46] <AlsM1> hello, where'd the mythtv-users go?
[05:47] <Joemama_> that route thing didnt fix it
[05:47] <Joemama_> its still not working
[05:47] <Nostahl> heyey all anyone know how to switch default video player
[05:48] <Joemama_> AlsM1 im in the channel right now
[05:48] <AlsM1> I can't see it
[05:48] <Joemama_> whois me
[05:48] <AlsM1> is there a reason I might not be able to see it
[05:48] <Joemama_> not that i can think of
[05:49] <Joemama_> where are you looking?
[05:54] <Joemama_> what version of mythtv comes with mythbuntu?
[06:05] <AlsM1> well I'm trying to figure out when I can get mythtv for Windows
[06:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> AlsM1: there are builds (or ways of doing it yourself) out there, check wiki.mythtv.org
[06:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> AlsM1: might also want to check out the mythtv player, let me find a link
[06:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> AlsM1: http://sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/ , the installer should also be on your mythbuntu CD, just toss it in and the autolauncher has a button to install
[08:03] <Bob24> hello
[08:03] <Bob24> is it possible to add video streams in mythbuntu so you can stream them?
[08:07] <Nostahl> what streams bob
[08:11] <Bob24> live video tv and videos
[08:11] <Bob24> .asx .ram
[08:12] <Nostahl> do you have astream for discovery channel and such
[08:17] <Bob24> just discovery and only works sometimes
[08:17] <Nostahl> how long is it suppose to take to load myth weather
[08:18] <Bob24> im wondering if u can add the sopcast streams and tv ants streams in their
[08:18] <Bob24> few seconds
[08:23] <Bob24> what u suggest?
[13:45] <mesut> hello
[15:44] <Nostahl> anyone available to help me get irrecord started
[15:44] <Nostahl> just need some help with syntax to get it running
[16:45] <Nostahl> woot got it goin
[16:56] <Nostahl> where did the menu option for watching online video go
[23:26] <toorima> a couple of weeks a go i updated my 8.04 and was forced to do a dist-upgrade to get the kernel to update, now it says again that kernel is kept back, just checking that i should do dist-upgrade on lts release?
[23:56] <Calebrown> Hi, I'm trying to install mythbuntu 8.04 on a 1Ghz 512MB ram machine with a hauppauge 150 card and basic on-board video.    I've tried safe graphics mode and get the same problem. Any ideas?


[00:26] <kklimonda_>          /b 29
[07:30] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I compile a plymouth plugin ?
[07:32] <AnAnt> I mean what are the flags I should give to gcc to get a proper .so file for plymouth plugin ? I do know what libs to link against
[07:45] <AnAnt> superm1: ping
[10:07] <\sh> siretart: ping...can you give me admin rights on launchpad.net/fai I need to change some things of the text on behalf of Thomas L. :)
[10:08] <\sh> siretart: bbl...going to the hospital now....
[11:10] <siretart> \sh: oh, I hope you are OK
[11:11] <siretart> \sh: aren't you already admin?
[11:31] <gaspa> anyone knows if pysupport is fixed? (about 2.7 ftb) ScottK, geser?
[11:34] <tumbleweed> gaspa: not yet https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~barry/ubuntu/natty/python-central/py27/+merge/39165
[11:34] <gaspa> tumbleweed: ok, thanks
[11:35] <tumbleweed> err, wrong one: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~barry/ubuntu/natty/python-support/py27/+merge/38965\
[11:38] <gaspa> tumbleweed: got it, thanks.
[12:49] <\sh> siretart: for the fai group I'm admin..but not for the project
[12:49] <\sh> siretart: and yes...I was with my son at the hospital :)
[12:53] <superm1> AnAnt, yes?
[12:57] <AnAnt> superm1: I sent you an email two days
[12:57] <AnAnt> ago
[12:57] <superm1> i know, i'm at UDS, i haven't responded to lots of mail
[12:59] <AnAnt> can you respond to it ?
[13:01] <AnAnt> superm1: ok, I'll tell you in private chat
[13:11] <siretart> \sh: I've just made the fai group admin of the project
[14:35] <\sh> siretart: thx
[14:39] <siretart> \sh: you're welcome
[16:35] <ari-tczew> how can I fix this FTBFS? http://paste.ubuntu.com/520229/  maybe debfx can you?
[16:39] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: apiextractor?
[16:42] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: yes
[16:43] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: this one is syncable
[16:43] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: that package (and the other pyside packages) are very tighly bound to qt
[16:43] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: I'd prod odyx and ask him to look at it them (as a whole)
[16:43] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: ok, so I'm leaving this one
[16:45] <debfx> ari-tczew: not sure, depends on why dpkg-gensymbols fails
[16:50] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: just asked OdyX. He intends to request syncs when the packages are at a syncable point
[18:47] <AnAnt> Hello
[18:48] <AnAnt> I compile a shared library using: gcc -shared $(LIBS) -o name.so name.o
[18:48] <AnAnt> but that fails on amd64, giving this error: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.rodata' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[18:52] <Bachstelze> AnAnt: compile with -fPIC :)
[18:53] <AnAnt> Bachstelze: for all archs ?
[18:53] <Bachstelze> it should only be needed on amd64
[18:53] <Bachstelze> but IIRC you can do it also on i386, it doesn't hurt
[18:53] <AnAnt> Bachstelze: thanks
[19:02] <AnAnt> so, when did UDS start ?
[19:02] <StevenK> Yesterday
[19:19] <AnAnt> Bachstelze: -fPIC is a CFLAG or LDFLAG or both ?
[19:33] <Bachstelze> AnAnt: CFLAG, but you could have tried for yourself ;)
[19:39] <AnAnt> Bachstelze: well, I don't have a 64-bit machine, and the turnaround time (upload to PPA, wait for build, get email that it failed) is long
[20:05] <genupulas> Hello I am rajasekhar
[20:06] <genupulas> can any one tell me  how can i write the  package program code for ubuntu using C
[20:06] <genupulas> i am asking is there any online tutorial
[23:15] <ari-tczew> persia: ping
[23:34] <Laney> ari-tczew: He's at UDS, and please try to avoid contentless pings as someone else may be able to answer
[23:38] <ari-tczew> Laney: ok, but I started asking on #ubuntu-devel
[23:38] <crimsun> ari-tczew: and I answered.
[23:39] <Laney> good, but still something to note
[23:39] <ari-tczew> crimsun: I used $ desktop-file-validate debian/cecilia.desktop and there is no any warnings.
[23:40] <ari-tczew> but how can I specify MimeType?
[23:41] <Laney> I usually look at the specification to find out what I can do
[23:41] <Laney> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#mime-types
[23:47] <ari-tczew> is it correct? MimeType=application/cecilia;  ?


[00:17] <Mapley> Just wondering, is there a way to adjust item spacing in Thunar?
[00:29] <CountryfiedLinux> There's no HDMI audio. Any suggestions?
[00:36] <GridCube> CountryfiedLinux, in pavucontrol, choose the output device to hdmi for the particular sound stream you want to listen
[00:37] <Haggard> Mapley: I haven't tried it but there's a thread on archlinux that might solve this for you. Check out: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1033063#p1033063
[00:39] <Haggard> CountryfiedLinux: Also, older kernels didn't have it implemented if using radeon based graphics. There's a boot option you can add to grub, depending on kernel version.
[00:39] <CountryfiedLinux> GridCube, audio still doesn't come out
[00:39] <GridCube> :/ i had to change cpus because my old one died on me, this one im using now had a working internal audio device, however after installing my vga card the system only recognizes the hdmi sound output and not the standard one
[00:41] <Mapley> Hrm, I'll check it out.
[01:19] <GridCube> no luck
[01:19] <GridCube> :(
[02:17] <JDLafk> hey can anyone help with choppy sound on a dell inpiron mini netbook, can anyone advise?
[02:24] <pleia2> JDLafk: does the choppiness change when you move the lid? (the wires live in the hinge, they tend to go, I had choppy, now no more sound on my dell mini)
[02:25] <JDLafk> oh lame I do have a busted hinge, but it never affected sound before I installed xubuntu this afternoon
[02:26] <pleia2> that's all I've got
[02:33] <audrey> hi, i'm having an issue on xubuntu 13.10. i rebooted and suddenly my resolution is 640x480 on a single display out of three and nvidia-settings says that i do not have their driver in use. nvidia-319 is the driver i installed and removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and running nvidia-xconfig as root did not solve the issue.
[02:33] <holstein> audrey: i would probably start by booting an older kernel
[02:33] <audrey> don't have one
[02:34] <audrey> actually i might
[02:34] <audrey> gonna try that
[02:37] <audrey> no luck
[02:38] <audrey> any other ideas guy i was just talking to?
[02:39] <holstein> audrey: i would reinstall the driver.. i would try other kernels.. i would test with a live CD.. i would test as a different user
[02:39] <audrey> reinstalling the driver did nothing
[02:40] <holstein> audrey: ok.. thats one
[02:40] <holstein> audrey: did you try *all* the kernels in your grub? does a live CD work? did you try as another user?
[02:40] <holstein> audrey: did you try setting the resolution?
[02:40] <audrey> the nvidia driver isn't in use
[02:40] <audrey> need to figure that one out
[02:41] <holstein> audrey: got it.. the kernel you are using may not allow it to be loading
[02:41] <audrey> how do i check?
[02:41] <JDLafk> pleia2, thank you anyway
[02:42] <holstein> audrey: i can tell you how i check.. i check a live CD to see that the hardware is functioning properly.. i check as another user to make sure the user config is not the issue.. i test with the vesa driver specified in xorg.conf or whatever
[02:44] <audrey> holstein: http://p.pomf.se/2113
[02:45] <holstein> audrey: how is it with the live CD?
[02:45] <audrey> works
[02:59] <audrey> i'm out of ideas holstein
[03:00] <holstein> audrey: i know, these days, since it takes about 8 minutes to reinstall, i usually dont hesitate.. but, i feel you could probably sort this out
[03:09] <audrey> holstein:
[03:09] <audrey> i updated my headers then purged nvidia-current then reinstalled them then ran nvidia-xconfig then grub-update and it fixed the issue after a reboot.
[03:10] <holstein> audrey: congrats
[03:10] <audrey> i is smart
[04:27] <xubuntu602> Hi, can someone recommend an up to date guide for manually installing Xubuntu on a UEFI system with LVM?
[04:27] <danielmatt> anyone had any luck using /etc/vnc/xstartup to start xfce4?
[04:29] <xubuntu602> I used to know how to do manual installs, but so much has changed now with UEFI, LVM, BtrFS.
[04:30] <xubuntu602> I've tried and failed to figure it out by looking at docs for the different components.
[04:31] <danielmatt> Beyond me - sorry man
[04:36] <xubuntu602> No apologies :) Unless you work for the people who designed UEFI lol. I'm wondering if I should just forget about btrfs for now and let the auto installer do it's thing.
[04:40] <Unit193> xubuntu602: Guessing you can't, or don't want to, use legacy BIOS mode?
[05:39] <xubuntu754> hello
[06:19] <xubuntu630> I am using an AMD a6 apu based pc, using hdmi output to a t.v. for a monitor, and sound is not working. I am unable to choose HDMI as an audio output option. How can this be resolved?
[08:31] <AndyNewbie> Hello im having trouble installing a network printer via the gui / have tried to install the driver from the epson website in the terminal but get dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of epson-inkjet-printer-201110w:  epson-inkjet-printer-201110w depends on lsb (>= 3.2); however:   Package lsb is not installed.
[08:32] <AndyNewbie> tired to sudo apt-get install the lsb package but says this is not possible
[08:32] <AndyNewbie> any ideas ?
[08:32] <ObrienDave> !info | lsb
[08:32] <ObrienDave> hmmm, hang on a sec
[08:33] <cfhowlett> lsb shows as available in the main repos.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> on 12.04
[08:33] <ObrienDave> and 13.10
[08:33] <ObrienDave> just installed it ;)
[08:34] <AndyNewbie> umm maybe its my fat fingers on the keyboard !
[08:34] <AndyNewbie> pressing the wrong buttons
[08:34] <cfhowlett> Apparently I don't need it for my HP printers ...
[08:34] <AndyNewbie> ill try again should be a "sudo apt-get install ?"
[08:34] <ObrienDave> na, I use hplip
[08:34] <cfhowlett> AndyNewbie, try apt-cache search lsb first
[08:35] <AndyNewbie> sadly the HP printers so far dont do A3 scanning
[08:36] <AndyNewbie> umm shows lots of differing lsb's im assuming the one I need to install is the lsb-printing module
[08:36] <ObrienDave> what size is A3?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> 11 x 16 inch I think
[08:37] <AndyNewbie> old money sizes !
[08:37] <ObrienDave> I think HP makes one that large. not sure. USA "B" size
[08:38] <AndyNewbie> well in home sized inkjet so far they dont (home office) in the big lasers they do
[08:39] <AndyNewbie> get the following when installing the lsb -printing package :-
[08:39] <AndyNewbie> andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install lsb-printing Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies.  epson-inkjet-printer-201110w : Depends: lsb (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed  lsb-printing : Depends: lsb-core (>= 4.1+Debian11ubuntu4) but
[08:40] <cfhowlett> AndyNewbie, there it is: sudo apt get -f install
[08:40] <AndyNewbie> will do
[08:40] <AndyNewbie> umm does not like that either
[08:40] <ObrienDave> like this one? staples.com/HP-Officejet-7110-Wide-Format-ePrinter/product_142140?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:142140&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=33-226352368-2
[08:43] <ObrienDave> here's an All-in-one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424813,00.asp
[08:43] <AndyNewbie> andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get -f install lsb-printing Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies.  epson-inkjet-printer-201110w : Depends: lsb (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed  lsb-printing : Depends: lsb-core (>= 4.1+Debian11ubuntu4)
[08:44] <AndyNewbie> sadly I already have the epson - it was working perfectly until "upgraded" to the latest version of xbuntu ........
[08:44] <AndyNewbie> also tried sudo apt-get -f install lsb-core this also did not work
[08:47] <AndyNewbie> somwhat annoying as need to print some drawings for a meeting with an architect tomorrow grr ...... looks like somthings been changed
[08:47] <AndyNewbie> in the update
[08:54] <AndyNewbie> I think im going to have to roll back to the lts version of xbuntu
[08:55] <AndyNewbie> ahh found this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/lsb/4.1+Debian11ubuntu4
[08:55] <PiiiRKO> why?
[08:55] <AndyNewbie> cant get the lsb package to install to allow me to use the previously working ok epson printer
[08:56] <PiiiRKO> AndyNewbie: its weird.. it should work on the newest versions too..
[08:57] <AndyNewbie> I guess so (my linux knowledge is somwhat limited !)
[08:57] <AndyNewbie> im just running out of time to mess around with the PC
[08:58] <PiiiRKO> AndyNewbie: and your epson printer doesnt have driver for linux?..
[08:58] <AndyNewbie> yes it does but will not install due to Lsb depednacy which I cant seem to satisfy
[08:59] <PiiiRKO> AndyNewbie: then.. youre right.. :(
[08:59] <AndyNewbie> somthing has changed to this package from the previous version of xbuntu
[09:00] <AndyNewbie> andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~/Downloads$ sudo dpkg -i epson-inkjet-printer-201110w_1.0.0-1lsb3.2_i386.deb (Reading database ... 178354 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace epson-inkjet-printer-201110w 1.0.0-1lsb3.2 (using epson-inkjet-printer-201110w_1.0.0-1lsb3.2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement epson-inkjet-printer-201110w ... cups stop/waiting cups start/running, process 4172 dpkg: dependency pr
[09:09] <ObrienDave> you get it working?
[09:09] <AndyNewbie> noo
[09:10] <AndyNewbie> found the lsb 4.1 package on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/lsb/4.1+Debian11ubuntu4
[09:11] <AndyNewbie> not sure to install it thou !
[09:11] <ObrienDave> 64bit?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> AndyNewbie, sudo dpkg -i packname.deb
[09:12] <AndyNewbie> pretty sure im not on the 64 bit version ..........
[09:13] <AndyNewbie> is there a quick command to find out which version im on at that could be it !
[09:13] <AndyNewbie> *as
[09:14] <ObrienDave> dpkg --print-architecture
[09:17] <ObrienDave> amd64 or i386?
[09:18] <AndyNewbie> believe im on i386 - how owuld I check (sorry for being a noob)
[09:18] <AndyNewbie> !
[09:18] <ObrienDave> dpkg --print-architecture
[09:18] <AndyNewbie> doh yes i386
[09:19] <AndyNewbie> (red face)
[09:19] <ObrienDave> no worries, we were ALL noobs at one time ;)
[09:19] <AndyNewbie> tried to install the lsb package but downloads as a tar when opening lots of sub direcotries files not a single .deb
[09:20] <ObrienDave> because it's source code. not a .deb install
[09:20] <AndyNewbie> keep promising to compelet the online course I paid for about linux but seem to spend my life working on windows (day job is suppling real windows to building sites ...)
[09:21] <AndyNewbie> doh again ...
[09:23] <AndyNewbie> andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~$ apt-cache search lsb libpam-systemd - system and service manager - PAM module alien - Convert and install rpm and other packages insserv - boot sequence organizer using LSB init.d script dependency information lsb - Linux Standard Base 4.1 support package lsb-base - Linux Standard Base 4.1 init script functionality lsb-core - Linux Standard Base 4.1 core support package lsb-cxx - Linux Standard Bas
[09:23] <koegs> !paste
[09:23] <AndyNewbie> seems to be avliable
[09:23] <PiiiRKO> AndyNewbie: :D :D you dont need some course.. you know how to join this IRC, thats all :))
[09:23] <ObrienDave> LOL
[09:23] <AndyNewbie> hehe thanks :)
[09:24] <AndyNewbie> (feel abit lazy thou .....)
[09:24] <ObrienDave> but, WE don't offer refunds ;)
[09:25] <PiiiRKO> :D
[09:26] <PiiiRKO> for me its like.. really step forward.. I was a windows user for about 15 years.. and now couple weeks ago I switch on xubuntu on my netbook.. its really great.. :))
[09:27] <ObrienDave> I started with Ubuntu 2-1/2 years ago. Found Xubuntu, never looked back LOL
[09:27] <PiiiRKO> ObrienDave: Xubuntu is great for slow computers I think.. :)
[09:28] <PiiiRKO> but some things like.. hibernate mode etc. I must figure out..
[09:28] <ObrienDave> even better for FAST computer LOL
[09:28] <PiiiRKO> quick ask: its possible to instal microsoft silverlight on my xubuntu? :D
[09:29] <ObrienDave> through WINE, yes
[09:29] <PiiiRKO> well..
[09:29] <PiiiRKO> I will try it
[09:31] <ObrienDave> only time I use WINE is when I want to watch NetFlix
[09:31] <baizon> PiiiRKO: there is a netflix app
[09:32] <ObrienDave> you need the compholio PPA for that
[09:33] <baizon> PiiiRKO: http://linuxg.net/how-to-use-netflix-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[09:33] <baizon> PiiiRKO: or you can use pipelight ( http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html )
[09:33]  * cfhowlett "compholio" ? Really?
[09:34] <ObrienDave> well, that's what I use for netflix ;P
[09:34] <PiiiRKO> I dont want it for netflix.. in my country.. its not supported..
[09:34] <PiiiRKO> I want it for some videos on website..
[09:35] <PiiiRKO> it offers me alternative.. some MONO program..
[09:35] <baizon> PiiiRKO: then use pipelight (second link i posted)
[09:35] <PiiiRKO> never heard about it..
[09:35] <PiiiRKO> baizon: I will try it..
[09:36] <cfhowlett> PiiiRKO, firefox + Media Hint addon = Hulu
[09:37] <PiiiRKO> cfhowlett: yes.. I use it for pandora :))
[09:37] <PiiiRKO> that pipelight is quite big.. 160 mb :D
[09:38] <ObrienDave> PiiiRKO, if you like Pandora, try Pithos. no ads ;))
[09:40] <PiiiRKO> ObrienDave: I downloaded warez APK of pandora.. no skips.. no ads.. and I am using it with combination of orbot on my android phone :D
[09:40] <PiiiRKO> nevermid.. it looks.. it doesnt work.. for this link http://ostatni.tvcom.cz/Zapas/28833-Kiki-Maki-Posezoni-tiskova-konference.htm
[09:45] <PiiiRKO> any ideas guys? :/
[09:47] <PiiiRKO> I am idiot.. it works!! :D
[09:47] <PiiiRKO> thanx baizon!
[10:14] <PiiiRKO> guys?..
[10:14] <PiiiRKO> how to lock our xubuntu pls?..
[10:15] <cfhowlett> PiiiRKO, lock screen
[10:15] <ObrienDave> click your user name, lock screen
[10:27] <cub> PiiiRKO, ctrl+alt+delete should also lock the screen
[10:28] <PiiiRKO> cub: thank you! :)
[10:30] <AndyNewbie> yay got the printer working ... no idea how ..... but still it works !
[10:30] <ObrienDave> !yay
[10:30] <mapito> anyone happen to have installed mariaDB from source? cant figure out what im doing wrong :)
[10:30] <ObrienDave> mapito, no, only from the repos
[10:31] <mapito> ah right thanks for the reply
[10:31] <AndyNewbie> really must learn more about the terminal messages but checking the lsb package in the software centre seems to have done the trick as it offered to repair pre installing more software
[10:31] <mapito> really quite annoying...I've followed the docs on the official site and googled for installing from source..but still getting problems;(
[10:31] <AndyNewbie> thanks for the pointers thou chaps as feel the attempt at installing lsb had an effect
[10:32] <ObrienDave> glad we could help
[10:33] <AndyNewbie> ps I agree with you chaps ive an old thinkpad x61 and xbuntu runs a treat on it much faster than the works laptop (newer with windows vista urrgh and broken windows install ! )
[10:34] <PiiiRKO> AndyNewbie: for me it works like a charm.. i own Asus 1005PXD.. and for this poor atom its best solution :)
[10:34] <mapito> ive got xubuntu on an old dell dual core desktop:D
[10:35] <PiiiRKO> :D
[10:35] <PiiiRKO> you have at least DUAL core! :D
[10:36] <AndyNewbie> and 4gb of ram .....
[10:36] <AndyNewbie> struggles abit with hd video editing thou lol
[10:37] <AndyNewbie> need a new rig for that
[10:37] <mapito> ive got 2gig of ram on my old desktop i think
[10:38] <mapito> gahh seriously this is so freaking annoying..w
[10:38] <mapito> hate it when you just cant get things to work and cant find the help
[10:38] <AndyNewbie> any one used that new editor lightworks ?
[10:39] <AndyNewbie> have edited hd on this with kdenlive but a bit of a pain lining up the seperate audio track when it stutters so !
[10:39] <mapito> i guess its no surproise everything mentions using apt/yum
[10:40] <mapito> must be a pain doing it from source.followed step by step and get errors which dont make sense :)
[10:41] <ObrienDave> mapito, why not install the mariaDB PPA? would save a BUNCH of hassle
[10:42] <ObrienDave> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mariadb_5.5
[10:43] <mapito> PPA?
[10:43] <mapito> i just wanted to try it from source to be honest
[10:43] <PiiiRKO> anyways.. is there some idea how to run CS 1.6 in resolution 1024 600? :D
[10:43] <mapito> getting used to compiling manually and that
[10:43] <mapito> ahh cs..not played cs for years
[10:44] <ObrienDave> always good to learn new things, for sure
[10:44] <PiiiRKO> mapito: ye.. its great game.. but.. I play only OTTD and sometimes this..
[10:44] <mapito> OTTD?
[10:44] <mapito> it is great
[10:44] <PiiiRKO> Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe :D
[10:44] <PiiiRKO> I love this game.. :D
[10:44] <mapito> i remember playting it at college during lunch on the network in the computing room
[10:44] <mapito> ahh
[10:45] <ObrienDave> cs?
[10:45] <PiiiRKO> mapito: we play Starcraft in school.. :D
[10:45] <PiiiRKO> great times.. :D
[10:45] <PiiiRKO> ObrienDave: yea..  Karlovy Lazne you mean? :D
[10:49] <mapito> ah
[10:49] <mapito> yes
[10:49] <mapito> sorry
[10:49] <mapito> i forgot the name
[10:49] <mapito> near the water
[10:49] <koegs> guys, there is #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatting :)
[10:49] <mapito> sorry
[10:49] <PiiiRKO> I was there.. but.. only for threatment..
[10:49] <PiiiRKO> not for bodybuilding.. :D
[10:49] <PiiiRKO> mapito: how did you know I am from Czech republic? :O
[10:49] <mapito> join xubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <PiiiRKO> ok :D
[12:12] <Yinon> hello?
[12:13] <Yinon> I cant upload my wallapaper
[12:13] <ObrienDave> Yinon, yes?
[12:13] <Yinon> hey, nice to meet you
[12:13] <ObrienDave> meaning?
[12:13] <Yinon> so
[12:13] <cfhowlett> Yinon, upload wallpaperto what?
[12:13] <ObrienDave> you too
[12:13] <Yinon> I entered the link
[12:13] <Yinon> to the 14.04
[12:13] <Yinon> about Xubuntu
[12:14] <Yinon> which ask the community to suggest wallpapers
[12:14] <cfhowlett> !enter
[12:14] <cfhowlett> Yinon, and the link is?
[12:14] <Yinon> what do you mean?
[12:15] <Yinon> first, I came to here: http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-default-wallpapers/
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Where and how to submit
[12:15] <cfhowlett> You can submit your wallpapers by uploading them to the Xubuntu Wiki. You’ll need an Ubuntu Single Sign-On account to be able to attach wallpapers.
[12:15] <Yinon> then I pressed on the link down there of  submissions
[12:15] <Yinon> I upload
[12:16] <Yinon> But, I can only see it in the uploading page
[12:16] <Yinon> not in the main page, and also I cant add details to my wallapaer
[12:16] <Yinon> only change file name
[12:17] <Yinon> did one of you tried it?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> yinon: this channel is for fixing ubuntu. uploading is something to discuss with the xubuntu page managers
[12:17] <cfhowlett> #xubuntu
[12:17] <cfhowlett> #xubuntu-dev
[12:17] <Yinon> Where should I go?
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Yinon, look on the page for support options ...
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Yinon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpContents
[12:20] <Yinon> I will try, but are you sure you dont have the answers for me?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Yinon, sounds like a wiki issue so see the wiki instructions ...
[12:21] <Yinon> But im not the manager of the site...
[12:21] <cfhowlett> ah!
[12:21] <cfhowlett> You DO have a login, right?
[12:21] <Yinon> I dont wanna to create a web page, just submit a wallapaer
[12:22] <Yinon> I have a login to the site
[12:22] <cfhowlett> Yinon, you must have an ubuntuone login to upload to the page ...
[12:22] <Yinon> I have, I logged in
[12:23] <Yinon> but submitting right is just complexed
[12:23] <Yinon> it's just not simple as I expected
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Yinon, and that's why they supply the help menus.  All those other photographers before you managed, so I'm confident you can do it as well.
[12:25] <Yinon> Are you sure that I need to edit the page by my own? learn how to work with it while all I wanted is suggesting an image to xubuntu 14.04?
[12:25] <Yinon> What happened to the "upload" button, give a title and have fun?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Yinon, it's a wiki. that's how they work.
[12:27] <Yinon> It's still very confusing for uploading an image, no one is showing how to suggest a picture, just saying they want
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Yinon, your feelings are valid.  Nothing I can do, but the xubuntu team needs to know.  Send them a message.  (Of course, they won't change anything for THIS development cycle ...)
[12:29] <Yinon> OK, but, where can I suggest them improving the way of wallpaper-suggestions ?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Yinon, I'd suggest you use some of the options on http://xubuntu.org/help/
[12:33] <Yinon> That how I came here... , oh wait, just changing the title of this IRC chat to "#xubuntu-offtopic" ?
[12:36] <knome> Yinon, please take the time to learn how to add an image to the wiki page
[12:36] <knome> Yinon, there are plenty of examples, you should be able to figure it out
[12:37] <Yinon> I'm breaking my head now, didnt expect that at all
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Yinon, no you have join the other channel.  /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:37] <Yinon> How do I move to off-topic??
[12:37] <cfhowlett> Yinon, for the record, editing the wiki for your entry is about as difficult as editing a libreoffice writer document
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Yinon, /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <Yinon> no, maybe for a user who already did it once
[12:38] <Yinon> Im there
[14:30] <Yinon> Thank you all, I made it ^^
[14:32] <cfhowlett> uploaded?
[14:32] <Yinon> yes, and the guys in off-topic also helped editing it right
[14:32] <Yinon> how is it now?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> niiiiiiiice
[14:34] <Yinon> Thanks!
[14:34] <Yinon> Glad you like it ^^
[14:35] <Yinon> Im the pixel art. right? maybe you mean the octopus (:
[14:37] <audrey> xu bun tu
[14:42] <Yinon> ?
[14:42] <Yinon> I had  a teacher with the name Audrey
[14:42] <Yinon> she was french/canadian
[14:42] <knome> !offtopic
[14:42] <Yinon> hey knome
[14:42] <Yinon> oopsi
[14:42] <Yinon> well, no one is talking here anyway//
[14:43] <knome> whatsoever, please take it to -offtopic
[14:43] <Yinon> ok
[14:43] <audrey> Yinon: i live in arkansas
[14:44] <Yinon> off topic! just kidding (: nice
[16:56] <hannesenator> Hello people, i have a problem with installing MATLAB on my xubuntu 13.10-laptop. It seems it doesnt support the Consistent Network Device Naming
[16:56] <hannesenator> Is there any easy/safe way to disable this and return to the older standard of naming it?
[16:58] <audrey> i used to know how to disable it on gentoo
[16:58] <audrey> hannesenator: did you manually enable the new device naming? it's not enabled for me by default on 13.10
[16:59] <hannesenator> I guess i rather want to disable the new naming stuff
[17:02] <audrey> hannesenator: you should be able to google how to disable it it's not hard
[17:03] <hannesenator> I threw a few queries at google, wasnt sure on what i wanted to search for though
[17:05] <audrey> hannesenator: disabling new device naming scheme or whatever it wascalled
[17:06] <hannesenator> Will do another round :)
[17:06] <hannesenator> ty
[17:18] <hannesenator> Solved it, wasnt even about the naming convention (it doesnt seem to be installed at all). Was just a rather silly case of renaming the network device
[17:21] <jazzme> hello, I recently installed xfce on top of a server os...after a long while the screen displays the log in and after logging in my running apps are all shutdown...it is like I rebooted...how can I disable this behavior?
[17:27] <ObrienDave> could be power manager and/or screensaver settings
[17:28] <jazzme> hmmm....ok....It is not obvious when I look around...I have the same desktop on another pc and I don't get this behavior.
[18:01] <xubuntu480> I am running xubuntu 13.10 from a USB pen drive and would like to continue running that way.  Is there a way to disable the delayed startup process/display screen showing "Try xubuntu".  I always want to run it from pendrive not install to hard drive.  So I always need to select "Try xubuntu"
[18:02] <ObrienDave> xubuntu480, you are running a "live" system disc, you need to burn the ISO to a DVD and install it to the USB
[18:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Why not use one usb to install onto anothere
[18:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> What ObrienDave said
[18:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's how I installed LinuxMint on my netbook. Used a 4gb usb to install it on a 16gb micro stick.
[18:03] <ObrienDave> you should be able to do that. other users have had trouble going from USB to USB
[18:04] <xubuntu480> Thanks Dave.  What is the min pendrive.  I have a 16GB but would prefer to use smaller.
[18:04] <ObrienDave> 4GB would be the minimum. but that would NOT give you "persistence"
[18:04] <xubuntu480> I need persistence so sounds like 8 GB min
[18:05] <ObrienDave> yes, no smaller than 8
[18:05] <xubuntu480> I can't run the ISO from HD and install to USB?  I wonder why
[18:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> the 4gb was just for the live session. I wasn't going for persistence
[18:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> The 16gb has the full install
[18:06] <ObrienDave> I use a few 16s for various pen drive installs
[18:06] <xubuntu480> I hardly ever use DVD anymore
[18:07] <ObrienDave> you should boot the LIVE from DVD to install to USB stick. easiest way I know of
[18:08] <xubuntu480> OK... I'll run with that.  My DVD recorder sits in a closet for only occassional use.  : )
[18:08] <ObrienDave> I have a few DVD-RWs I use for installs ;)
[18:09] <xubuntu480> Thanks much...  I am new to linux/xubuntu.  Was hoping to get Plex going but not as easy as I hoped.
[18:09] <ObrienDave> let us know how it went :))
[18:10] <xubuntu480> I have a linux based NAS (Synology) that is too underpowered to support a Plex module, so trying to access it from another computer running Plex.
[18:10] <ObrienDave> not familiar with plex, sorry
[18:11] <xubuntu480> Thanks so much for the generous help!  cheers
[18:11] <ObrienDave> welcome
[18:24] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[18:24] <ObrienDave> greetings
[18:25] <sergiobenrocha2> Hello, I'm having a problem with ubuntu apport... It is not sending bugs to launchpad anymore... normally it open firefox at launchpad, but just 2 week it does not do it
[18:25] <sergiobenrocha2> ops..
[18:26] <sergiobenrocha2> Hello, I'm having a problem with ubuntu apport...
[18:27] <ObrienDave> maybe no bugs to report?
[18:27] <sergiobenrocha2> no...
[18:27] <sergiobenrocha2> apport pop-up, then I click to send information, but firefox is not opening...
[18:28] <ObrienDave> ahh, not sure if it bypasses firefox. mine never opened firefox
[18:28] <sergiobenrocha2> just now, I have an problem with xorg,
[18:28] <sergiobenrocha2> but normally, it open Firefox to you file a bug...
[18:29] <ObrienDave> ok, i'll take your word on that. not sure really
[18:29] <sergiobenrocha2> or, at least, do an "this bug is affecting me too"
[18:32] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: what version of Xubuntu?
[18:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've been getting xorg crashes after login. But Apport seems to send the reports.
[18:33] <elfy> I assume not the dev version, afaik it is disabled on release
[18:33] <sergiobenrocha2> xubuntu 13.10
[18:33] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport
[18:34] <elfy> I know it is currently disabled in 14.04 - my crashdb.conf has 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'], without the # and doesn't work either
[18:35] <sergiobenrocha2> humm, it's right, i tried in ubuntu 14.04 daily build and it not work too
[18:36] <elfy> and adding the # allows apport to work here with the #
[18:36] <elfy> but there is a reason that it's disabled - so read the wiki :)
[18:39] <sergiobenrocha2> humm, ok
[18:41] <sergiobenrocha2> but i don't care about "sensitive data"...
[18:41] <sergiobenrocha2> i want to help the ubuntu development, such others apps
[18:41] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: that's fine - I'm just saying - you do what you want with it :)
[18:42] <sergiobenrocha2> are there other problem?
[18:43] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: I'd guess that Number 2 in that section is what they are really driving at - it's entirely possible that even though you send the bug report nothing will be done with it
[18:46] <sergiobenrocha2> humm... so report bug in a stable release is no usefull? But, bug report could be usefull for a next release of ubuntu, like 14.04... or not?
[18:48] <sergiobenrocha2> for example, xubuntu 14.04 will use xfce 4.10 probably, and I'm using xubuntu, and I saw many bugs and inconsistent things in GUI...
[18:48] <sergiobenrocha2> sorry for my english...
[18:51] <elfy> your english is fine :)
[18:53] <sergiobenrocha2> but so... is usefull report but here at least for thigs go fix in the next release? such xubuntu 14.04?
[18:54] <elfy> if you want to help with 14.04 testing that's great - but it'd be better to do it from 14.04, maybe a vm or something
[18:56] <sergiobenrocha2> but the is trusty's daily build [now] really 14.04? I say that because it seems it is 13.10 with "proposed" repository enabled...
[18:56] <sergiobenrocha2> *but is the [...]
[18:56] <bazhang> 14.04 is #ubuntu+1
[18:57] <sergiobenrocha2> is this a irc channel?
[18:57] <bazhang> for 13.10 and below
[18:58] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for all 14.04
[18:58] <sergiobenrocha2> great
[18:58] <elfy> bazhang: he has 13.10 - I'm dragging it offtopic a bit ;)
[18:58] <bazhang> elfy, my apologies
[18:58] <elfy> that's ok :)
[19:00] <elfy> bazhang: I get so few people talking about testing I forget where I am :)
[19:00] <bazhang> :)
[19:16] <audrey> xu bun tu
[19:16] <knome> audrey, do you have a support question?
[20:10] <nikolam> dunno why cursor sometimes tun int a fist/hand I can not click anymore. 32bit 12.04.3 LTS Xubuntu
[20:11] <knome> nikolam, if you drag it around, does it drag the window around?
[20:11] <nikolam> knome, nope
[20:11] <knome> if you click the mouse, does the cursor return to normal?
[20:12] <nikolam> it is not new to my 12.04 install, but I am just reporting it now, used to be more often before
[20:12] <nikolam> no. it stays like hand and can not click
[20:12] <nikolam> i solve it by stopping and starting lightdm, thta restart everything
[20:13] <knome> nikolam, i've no idea, it doesn't sound like a known/usual bug. try searching LP for a similar one, and if you can't find one, report one
[20:13] <nikolam> thanks knome
[20:49] <xubuntu399> hi / ciao a tutti
[20:51] <Unit193> !hi
[20:52] <xubuntu399> :D im now in live user , installing is very low
[22:31] <infamy> Hi. I'm trying to hook up my laptop via HDMI to my flatscreen to be able to display Netflix on the TV. When I hook up the HDMI cable, it says No Input still, as if nothing was plugged up at all. It works in Windows, so I'm assuming I don't have something set correctly. Is there anyone available that could please assist?
[22:32] <TheSheep> infamy: sure, can you open a terminal, type `xrandr` in it (without the `) and pastebin the output at http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[22:32] <infamy> Sure, sec.
[22:34] <infamy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6445194/
[22:34] <TheSheep> hmm, it doesn't seem to see your HDMI output at all
[22:34] <TheSheep> that's with the cable connected?
[22:35] <infamy> No, it's not currently. Connected. Let me connect it quickly, sec.
[22:36] <infamy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6445200/
[22:36] <infamy> ^ connected
[22:37] <GridCube> infamy, whats your need?
[22:38] <infamy> I need to hookup HDMI from laptop to tv to view Netflix.
[22:38] <GridCube> mmhm, and you cant?
[22:39] <infamy> No. When I plug it up, it's not sending anything to the tv under uxbuntu.
[22:39] <infamy> On Windows it will though
[22:39] <infamy> xubuntu*
[22:40] <GridCube> infamy, your computer has a fn key to cycle between different setups, doesnt it?
[22:40] <TheSheep> infamy: can you check what graphics card you have with `lspci | grep VGA` ?
[22:40] <infamy> GridCube: yes
[22:41] <infamy> TheSheep: sure
[22:41] <GridCube> have you tried them?
[22:41] <infamy> GridCube: When I press it, only laptop shows up. No otther options.
[22:41] <TheSheep> infamy: also, what GridCube is saying :)
[22:42] <infamy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[22:42] <GridCube> alright, infamy open a terminal and type >>arandr<<
[22:43] <infamy> currently not installed. install it?
[22:43] <infamy> It's been installed and I typed it again and it's open
[22:45] <GridCube> ok, but i see that xrandr did not saw the monitor so maybe its irrelevant
[22:45] <GridCube> i would suggest you to reboot whit the external monitor plugged. i know its not the optimal solution but it might work
[22:47] <infamy> OK, let me try that.
[22:47] <infamy> Sec.
[22:48] <tzhuang> Hello, how can I change the default web browser in Xubuntu 13.10? I have already modified the Preferred Application but most other programs (thunderbird, abiword) seem to recognize FireFox as the default browser (links opened there).
[22:54] <TheSheep> tzhuang: I had a lot of trouble with that, finally I just renamed the menu entry for firefox in /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop to something else
[23:01] <tzhuang> TheSheep: lol damn. seems a little inelegant but i guess you gotta do what you gotta do. thanks
[23:02] <Unit193> grep for firefox in ~/.local/* -R


[02:29] <ctjctj> How do I install one apt from hardy into gutsy?
[02:31] <hydrogen> undoable
[02:31] <hydrogen> probablyh
[02:58] <DanaG> Odd: I've never had apport offer to file reports on app crashes, either during Gutsy beta, after Gutsy release, or even now during Hardy pre-alpha.
[02:59] <IdleOne> DanaG: neither have I
[03:00] <IdleOne> that is what apprt is supposed to do right
[03:00] <Hobbsee> they need to turn it on for alpha 1
[03:00] <DanaG> I've only had it work in Gutsy fresh installs.
[03:01] <DanaG> But I've done so much on this system that I don't want to have to remember everything I've installed and customized.
[04:43] <davidrawson> hello
[04:53] <DanaG> WTF?  I just hotplugged my sound card and had the login sound play.
[04:53] <DanaG> WTF?
[04:54] <davidrawson> why
[04:55] <davidrawson> is that bad?
[04:55] <DanaG> For a moment it made me think I had somehow logged out and then in again.
[04:55] <DanaG> It should use a shorter sound.
[04:56] <davidrawson> I'm running programs on wine
[04:57] <davidrawson> it works except for sound
[04:57] <DanaG> Try setting Wine to use esound, if you're using PulseAudio.
[04:57] <DanaG> And install the esd-compat thingy.
[04:57] <davidrawson> nvm, the entire system has no sound now
[04:58] <davidrawson> there's something wrong with kubuntu
[04:58] <davidrawson> which one's better, kubuntu or ubuntu?
[04:59] <DanaG> They're essentially the same distro with a different desktop environment.
[04:59] <DanaG> It comes down to personal preference between KDE and Gnome.
[05:00] <davidrawson> Is it just the style of the desktop then?
[05:00] <DanaG> You can install ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu, and vice versa, if you want to try both desktop environments.
[05:00] <DanaG> KDE and Gnome also have some differences in philosophy, I believe.
[05:01] <davidrawson> How can I format to ntfs?
[05:01] <DanaG> Gparted can do it, I believe.
[05:01] <DanaG> Formatting is one of those things to make sure you're sure you want to do, before you do it.
[05:01] <davidrawson> not QTparted
[05:02] <davidrawson> I can't find Gparted
[05:02] <DanaG> It's a package that might not be installed by default.
[05:06] <davidrawson> NTFS doesn't work, im just going to use ext3 on my external hard disk....
[05:06] <DanaG> It's easier to write to, for sure.
[05:06] <davidrawson> It is?
[05:06] <DanaG> With NTFS, you have to be sure to cleanly unmount, or you must chkdsk.
[05:06] <DanaG> And to do that, you have to reboot to Windows.
[05:07] <davidrawson> Mine doesn't do that.....
[05:07] <davidrawson> My computer's vista though
[05:08] <DanaG> I mean for writing NTFS in Linux.
[05:08] <davidrawson> you could also force it to mount
[05:09] <davidrawson> mount "dev/sdb1" "media/sdb1" -o force
[05:09] <DanaG> Naah, that can cause some file loss of newly written files, I believe.
[05:09] <davidrawson> but ext3 cant be read by windows
[05:10] <DanaG> It can if you use http://fs-driver.org
[05:10] <DanaG> but the control panel doesn't work under Vista.  You'd have to re-run the installer to change drive letters.
[05:10] <DanaG> NTFS is still better if you intend to use the drive with other computers, and if you intend to unmount it safely most of the time.
[05:11] <davidrawson> Nah, I always shut down windows the bad way....it shuts down too slowly
[05:13] <DanaG> Well, you can do "safely remove" in Windows, and "Unmount Volume" in Linux.
[05:14] <DanaG> Oh, and don't use NTFS compression -- it renders NTFS (even 3g) not writeable on files that have been created in Windows with compression on.
[05:16] <davidrawson> I think it's cool that you can use command line to mount disk images
[05:19] <DanaG> You can even make an ntfs file system on a non-block device.
[05:19] <DanaG> Same with any other file system.
[05:26] <davidrawson> what do you mean by that?
[05:29] <DanaG> You can create an empty file with a specific size, then make it into a file system, and then loop mount it.
[05:29] <DanaG> It's one way of testing filesystem drivers, for example.
[05:30] <davidrawson> oh, like making an image file
[05:31] <davidrawson> could you use it as an image?
[05:33] <davidrawson> how do you make an empty file?
[05:34] <davidrawson> using the terminal
[05:34] <DanaG> dd if=/dev/zero of=filename bs=1M count=X      where X is number of megabytes.  Or use bs (blocksize) = larger and count = smaller.
[05:36] <davidrawson> linux uses the full power of the PC i guess
[05:37] <davidrawson> it has built in support for image files
[05:38] <DanaG> Well, since many devices can be accessed as files, you can do interesting things.
[05:38] <DanaG> For example, try doing cat filename > /dev/dsp
[05:38] <DanaG> where filename is any random thing you feel like trying.
[05:38] <DanaG> Turn down volume first, though.
[05:39] <davidrawson> my sound doesn't work
[05:39] <davidrawson> what does that do?
[05:39] <davidrawson> make noises that's in the file?
[05:39] <DanaG> Makes random (sometimes horrid) noises, depending on the type and content of the file.
[05:40] <davidrawson> what if we used a wave file?
[05:40] <DanaG> Hopefully it'd play properly.
[05:40] <DanaG> Every file system sounds different, so you can sudo cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp
[05:40] <davidrawson> what's the most raw sound file, without any compression?
[05:41] <DanaG> Note that the sudo is on cat, which only reads from the device.
[05:41] <DanaG> Be wary of anything telling you to do a command that writes to a file on a partition.
[05:41] <davidrawson> what can you do with the display?
[05:41] <davidrawson> have you heard of rockbox?
[05:41] <DanaG> That's harder -- you have to have framebuffer enabled, and you have to be on a console.
[05:42] <hydrogen> its also stretching the topic of this channel!
[05:43] <davidrawson> Into TAFFY!
[05:46] <davidrawson> is solaris a linux distro?
[05:47] <Tm_T> no
[05:47] <davidrawson> linux is better?
[05:47] <Tm_T> depends
[05:47] <Hobbsee> ...i think you want ##linux
[05:47] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: bah, was just about to say that
[05:48]  * DanaG changes mode from 'off-topic' to 'lurk'.
[05:53] <davidrawson> I also like how if the drive is preventing you from copying files to it, you can force it to using the terminal
[05:53] <DanaG> One reeeeally nice thing that I severely miss when in windows: dmesg.
[05:54] <davidrawson> dmesg?
[05:54] <davidrawson> what's that?
[05:54] <davidrawson> i wonder if myspace IM works in linux (not that I use it anymore)
[05:55] <DanaG> Sometimes in Windows, I'll have a driver mysteriously break, but in Linux, you can often find out at least partly why.
[05:55] <davidrawson> linux usually fixes it
[05:55] <davidrawson> for me
[05:56] <davidrawson> what's dmesg?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> again, that's  a #ubuntu question, or a ##linux one
[05:58] <DanaG> Here's why I like using +1: I find it oddly fun fixing things when they break.
[05:59] <FunnyLookinHat> DanaG, join the club   : )
[05:59] <davidrawson> linux doesn't seem to slow down while copying files....
[05:59] <DanaG> I joined the club back in Edgy, actually.
[05:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Hahaha
[06:00] <FunnyLookinHat> I've been there a while too..  sadly because I used to have poor distros to use
[06:00] <hydrogen> I've graduated from that club
[06:00] <FunnyLookinHat> LoL
[06:00] <hydrogen> now I just want my os to work
[06:00] <hydrogen> theres plenty of other things I can spend my time breaking and fixing
[06:00] <pwnguin> i just use ubuntu+1 because if i dont things dont work when release rolls around =(
[06:01] <FunnyLookinHat> true that, if I had more time to bug report and troubleshoot (stupid school takes up all my time) then I'd do it too
[06:02] <DanaG> I'm also not afraid to do things such as hacking at my DSDT (to fix brightness control).
[06:04] <DanaG> One thing I don't do so well at is coming up with creative hostnames.
[06:05] <DanaG> For a while, my laptop (Gateway M685) had the really lame hostname of:  "m685".
[06:05] <DanaG> Finally a friend suggested I change it to GLaDOS, so I did.
[06:06] <hydrogen> hydrogen@Yes
[06:06] <hydrogen> mines better :)
[06:07] <DanaG> http://trac.phidev.info/trac/wiki/AptZeroconf
[06:07] <DanaG> cool idea.
[06:08] <davidrawson> i'm not using pure-ftpd without the gui :/
[08:48] <needhelp> Hi! I need your help. Iam collecting points in page listed below. If you be so kind, please click url below.(sorry for the spam, thank you) http://www.3dwhite.lt/?click=56a3cdcf22ccc7ab5f0a7f4d2bc900ff
[12:37]  * Hobbsee wonders if anyone has found a solution to totem video playing yet
[13:43] <MartinW> How many megabytes of updates per day for hardy?
[13:43] <Hobbsee> lots
[13:59] <mrsno> mm i love how gb.archive.ubuntu.com peaks out my 20meg connection
[14:00] <mrsno> makes updating so quick
[14:26] <mrsno> wee just killed my hardy virtual machine, gdm frozen
[14:30] <Hobbsee> hah
[14:31] <Hobbsee> that sounds like my normal hardy
[14:31] <mrsno> i was about to say yay for snapshots :) but now virtualbox has keeled over
[14:32] <mrsno> hmm  VERR_SSM_LOAD_CPUID_MISMATCH
[23:12] <hashbrowncipher> does anyone here know why i would not have a /proc/slabinfo file?
[23:24] <crimsun> probably because we no longer use slab.
[23:24] <crimsun> i.e.,
[23:24] <crimsun> CONFIG_SLUB=y
[23:24] <crimsun> CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y
[23:25] <crimsun> and, of course,
[23:25] <crimsun> # CONFIG_SLAB is not set
[23:25] <hashbrowncipher> what replaces it?
[23:26] <crdlb> s/A/U/
[23:27] <hashbrowncipher> as in, where can i get similar diagnostic info
[23:29] <crimsun> /sys/slab/*
[23:31] <hashbrowncipher> crimsun: thanks for the help
[23:31] <crimsun> np.


[07:51] <towo> Yeah, nvidia driver recently fucked itself up for me, too.
[07:51] <towo> Couldn't be bothered to debug it, yet, just disabled it.
[08:03] <ikonia> tone down the langauge please
[08:03] <ikonia> there isn't a need for it
[08:03] <towo> o.o
[08:04] <towo> Ohhhkay then.
[08:04] <ikonia> thanks
[11:00] <austin4312> I need help for configuring the x11vnc server on my machine running Ubuntu GNOME 15.04
[11:01] <austin4312> According to the x11vnc faq: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-gone-lock I can lock my screen after my session completes
[11:01] <austin4312> However, how do I configure it to work on gnome?
[11:48] <LinDol_phone> Ho all
[11:48] <LinDol_phone> Hi
[14:02] <LinDol> hi all
[14:02] <LinDol> good night :)
[14:02] <LinDol> haha :)
[21:08] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Do you know how much we need to work on to merge g-s-d and g-c-c? Also, gnome-shell probably needs another merge, but you left your changelog out when you last merged it
[23:04] <darkxst> Noskcaj, all the patches for g-s-d and g-c-c should be updated in staging, so should just be straight merges
[23:36] <darkxst> Noskcaj, not sure where the shell changelog went, here it is if you want to do new merge, just add it into the changelogs http://pastebin.com/jxVBjvRG


[11:49] <airurando> morning (just about)
[11:49] <tdr112> ebel: in todays times
[11:50] <ebel> irish times? cool.
[11:51] <tdr112> yep my brother rang me to tell me he saw it , its online too
[11:51] <tdr112> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0617/1224299072190.html
[11:52] <ebel> yes saw it online yesterday. thanks for the heads up
[11:53] <tdr112> well its todays page 6
[11:53] <slashtom> with photo?
[11:55] <airurando> congrats again ebel. you must be chuffed.
[11:56] <ebel> yeah, tis kinda cool.
[11:56] <ebel> Tis suprising how, from a computer science/algoritm point of view the problem isn't too hard.
[11:56] <tdr112> slashtom: i dont know my brother told me , i have only seen the online one
[11:56] <ebel> suppose it just go to show that programming is valuable, cause with it you can do things that are hard otherwise.
[18:53] <czajkowski> aloha
[18:54] <airurando> evening czajkowski
[18:55] <czajkowski> hows you
[18:55] <airurando> not to bad now.
[18:55] <airurando> and you?
[19:04] <czajkowski> sleepy


[02:06] <i_hate_niiggers> poop
[02:06] <i_hate_niiggers> hi everyone
[02:07] <i_hate_niiggers> i need some install help
[02:11] <uvizachan> wut
[02:12] <uvizachan> I hate niiggers why so offensive?
[02:31] <i_hate_niiggers> hi
[06:03] <xubuntu28w> hi all
[06:03] <xubuntu28w> are there any plans to support the raspberry 4 in the future?
[06:06] <xubuntu28w> PS: I am using Xubuntu on my PCs and Laptops, and would like to keep the same UI also for RPi4
[06:29] <xubuntu28w> anybody awake...  ;D
[11:19] <xubuntu27w> will Xubuntu support the new Raspberry Pi 4?
[12:54] <Simo97> Hello, i'm a new user. I'm trying to install Xubuntu on an old Macbook A1181 (white) by DVD, but I've been waiting for a few hours already, and the installation is blocked in the same status.


[00:15] <akgraner> pleia2, no I am not editing anything
[00:15] <akgraner> or at least not that I know of
[00:15] <pleia2> hrm, wordpress gives me an error saying you are when I try to edit
[00:16] <akgraner> hmmm
[00:16] <akgraner> pleia2, that's b/c I am still logged in  grrr
[00:17] <akgraner> let me log out and close these 50 tabs
[00:17] <akgraner> pleia2, can you look now
[00:17] <pleia2> ok, thanks :)
[00:17] <akgraner> sorry about that
[00:19] <pleia2> jono: updated (put a strikethrough in 4pm so it's clear that it's a change in case people are confused)
[00:19] <jono> thanks pleia2
[00:19] <jono> appreciate that
[02:59] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: is it fine if I x-post https://joseeantonior.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/localizing-the-qa-systems/ to the fridge?
[03:01] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: dunno, looks like it's more appropriate for your blog+planet since it's brainstorming and ideas instead of an actual announcement (news-y fridge thing)
[03:01] <JoseeAntonioR> ok then :)
[04:22] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: have you looked at askbot? (it's what fedora uses)
[04:22] <pleia2> I see fabian mentioned the other one I knew about (which debian uses)
[04:23] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, haven't looked askbot
[04:23] <JoseeAntonioR> but shapado it really an option to be considered
[04:23] <pleia2> https://github.com/ASKBOT
[04:23] <pleia2> yeah, shapado is nice
[04:26] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll check that one out :)
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[11:36] <Silverlion> dholbach: moin moin ;)
[12:31] <dholbach> hi Silverlion
[12:32] <Silverlion> ich dachte schon, Du würdest mich nicht wahrnehmen ;)


[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[06:54] <ajmitch> hi dholbach
[06:55] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[07:06] <geser> Hi dholbach and ajmitch
[07:06] <dholbach> hey geser
[07:06] <ajmitch> hi geser
[07:30] <iulian> Oh no, it's ajmitch!
[07:30] <iulian> Morning.
[19:10] <paultag> jbicha: sorry about that dput-ng bug, I'll fix that up for you shortly
[19:10] <paultag> jbicha: in the meantime, you can disable that hook (allowed-distribution)
[19:10] <paultag> jbicha: also, what's that hook running on your upload? I like it, mind sending a patch in? :)
[19:22] <jbicha> paultag: do you mean backportpackage? that's just part of ubuntu-dev-tools
[19:23] <paultag> OK.
[19:24] <paultag> I assumed the string "Do you want to upload the package to ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3" was coming out of dput-ng
[19:24] <jbicha> yeah, that's just backportpackage
[19:24] <paultag> righto
[19:25] <jbicha> I wonder when devscripts & ubuntu-dev-tools will default to dput-ng instead of dput
[19:25] <paultag> there are native python bindings in python-dput
[19:26] <paultag> so you can invoke the uploader without shelling out
[19:44] <jbicha> paultag: could you have dput-ng reject uploads to Ubuntu if 'ppa' is part of the uploaded version?
[19:45] <paultag> jbicha: yes, absolutely
[19:45] <paultag> jbicha: all the hooks are astoundingly easy to write
[19:45] <paultag> jbicha: that would be an importable 3 line function and one json def file - if you want to try patching it in, I can help you out, so you can make future features like that happen :)
[19:46] <paultag> jbicha: I have some docs sitting at http://dput-ng.debian.net/en/latest/reference/hooks.html
[19:46] <paultag> jbicha: but I'd be happy to work with you on it on IRC or whatever


[07:11] <bohdan_trotsenko> Hello. I'm looking for a way to get a thumbnail on (a unity-driven) ubuntu; I know where the thumbnails are, I just don't know how to trigger the generation. I have SO question: https://stackoverflow.com/q/44336912/58768 Thank you


[00:18] <jjohnston> hi all looking for a little guidance from more experienced MaaS users if anyone has a moment.  I'm getting an error in MaaS on successfully commissioned hosts  {"network": ["Node must be configured to use a network"]} - I've searched for existing trackers and am not finding a work-around. Thanks for any guidance you can give in advance
[18:37] <mup> Bug #1657851 opened: [2.2] CSS refers to image-background-paper.png, which no longer exists <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1657851>
[23:39] <spaok> hey all
[23:40] <spaok> does anyone know how I can remove interfaces from a controller? the maas command won't let me do it
[23:44] <spaok> ah nevermind it did i


[08:31] <bryce> tjaalton: -intel merge: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/
[08:32] <bryce> tjaalton: also included a couple other patches.  builds ok.  would appreciate a review.  I'll upload tomorrow.
[08:34] <tjaalton> bryce: why not merge 2.3.0 from experimental?-)
[08:34] <tjaalton> and could we finally drop i810
[08:35] <bryce> tjaalton: in part because I want to get 2 patches validated that I'm looking to backport to hardy
[08:35] <tjaalton> no-one uses intrepid..
[08:35] <bryce> heh, I do!
[08:35] <tjaalton> so using hardy-proposed is a better way imho
[08:35] <bryce> (well, for my test box)
[08:35] <tjaalton> ah ok :)
[08:36] <bryce> the one patch is already in hardy-proposed
[08:36] <tjaalton> the packages don't have to be in sync between intrepid and hardy-updates
[08:36] <bryce> also, I think for 2.3.0 we'll be dropping a lot of patches
[08:36] <tjaalton> sure
[08:39] <bryce> tjaalton: also I got word that 2.3.1 is coming out very soon; perhaps that's the one we should merge.
[08:39] <tjaalton> ok
[08:40] <tjaalton> anyway, doing a merge to get one patch in hardy is maybe overkill :)
[08:41] <tjaalton> and probably will get turned down
[08:42] <bryce> actually the reason I'm doing a merge is because I tried doing a regular upload of the patch, and got a reject due to md5sum issues, and I'm guessing the merge needs to go through first
[08:44] <tjaalton> I think it's because -2ubuntu13 is not yet in -updates
[08:44] <tjaalton> hm no
[08:44] <tjaalton> you should be able to upload ubuntu14
[08:44] <tjaalton> to -proposed
[08:45] <tjaalton> er, I meant -1ubuntu13 and 14
[08:45] <bryce> no, I mean I wasn't able to upload to intrepid.  I was able to upload it to hardy-proposed
[08:45] <tjaalton> ah ok
[08:46] <tjaalton> do you have the error message
[08:46] <tjaalton> ?
[08:46] <bryce> yeah
[08:46] <bryce> Rejected:
[08:46] <bryce> MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[08:46] <bryce> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[08:46] <bryce> it's rather obscure what the problem is.  I tried redoing it from scratch 2-3 times, exact same error.
[08:47] <bryce> eh, perhaps it's all not worth the bother.
[08:47] <tjaalton> you tried to upload -1u13 to intrepid? that would fail yes
[08:47] <bryce> oh?  why would it fail?
[08:48] <tjaalton> because it's there already :)
[08:48] <bryce> hmm, I could swear I'd checked
[08:48] <tjaalton> only that the pocket is hardy-proposed
[08:48] <tjaalton> you uploaded it :)
[08:48] <bryce> oh
[08:48] <bryce> feh!
[08:48] <tjaalton> you should use different versioning
[08:49] <tjaalton> like if intrepid had -1ubuntu1, then to get that in hardy you'd upload it as -1u1~hardy1
[08:49] <bryce> like -1u12.1 ?
[08:49] <tjaalton> that's another way yes
[08:49] <tjaalton> but merge 2.3.0 and be done with it for good :)
[08:49] <bryce> yeah
[08:49] <bryce> although not for the reasons I'd assumed ;-)
[08:49] <tjaalton> then when 2.3.1 is released it's easy to re-merge
[08:50] <bryce> yup
[08:50] <tjaalton> so, apart from some patches, there shouldn't be any other changes that we need
[08:50] <tjaalton> libpciaccess should be pushed to main though
[08:51] <bryce> well, I'll do -2ubuntu1 first, just to get all the patches together and since I have it ready, then work on 2.3.x next
[08:51] <bryce> yeah we definitely need to put a priority on that
[08:51] <tjaalton> ok, the merge looks good
[08:51] <tjaalton> is 19_check_exa_pitch_to_fix_rotate_crash.patch from upstream or your head?-)
[08:52] <tjaalton> (didn't look in the diff, just .changes)
[08:52] <bryce> upstream
[08:52] <tjaalton> ok cool
[08:52] <bryce> but it's not one I'm super confident about.  Probably ok for intrepid but I wanted more testing/verification before putting in for hardy
[08:54] <tjaalton> yep
[09:09] <bryce> uploaded
[10:18] <jcristau> i'm guessing intrepid will likely have xserver 1.5?
[10:18] <bryce> yeah
[10:19] <jcristau> i'll upload a new xorg-server rev today, rebased against the latest server-1.4-branch, fwiw
[10:24] <jcristau> (but first i need the new xtrans)
[10:25] <tjaalton> jcristau: it builds against mesa 7.0.3?
[10:25] <jcristau> tjaalton: "it"?
[10:25] <tjaalton> the server
[10:25] <jcristau> 1.5 doesn't
[10:26] <tjaalton> ah so you don't have packages yet, only the tree?
[10:26] <tjaalton> I'm just confused :)
[10:26] <jcristau> i have packages in experimental, built with --disable-glx --disable-dri --disable-dri2
[10:26] <jcristau> :)
[10:27] <tjaalton> right, remember seeing those
[10:28] <jcristau> but there's a good chance lenny will release with 1.4 anyway :/
[10:28] <tjaalton> is it still planned for sep/oct?
[10:29] <jcristau> something like that
[10:29] <tjaalton> in that case 1.4 is definately a safer bet ;)
[10:29] <jcristau> yeah
[10:30] <tjaalton> although so does intrepid, but we've decided to push the envelope with it :)
[10:31] <tjaalton> 1.4 is getting boring
[11:32] <jcristau> hmm. still shipping the old i810 driver?
[11:39] <tjaalton> yes.
[11:39] <tjaalton> for testing..
[13:07] <tjaalton> yay, pixman synced.. that was fast
[13:21] <kahrytan> How does Screen Resolutions applet get it's mode list ?
[13:22] <tjaalton> it uses xrandr
[13:22] <kahrytan> How does Screen Resolutions applet or X server get it's mode list ?
[13:22] <jcristau> the X server gets it from the monitor
[13:22] <kahrytan> okay. xrandr is wrong in detecting modes for my monitor
[13:22] <tjaalton> kahrytan: log?
[13:22] <jcristau> and xrandr gets it from the X server
[13:22] <kahrytan> What log? it's a GUI app
[13:23] <jcristau> the X log
[13:23] <tjaalton> kahrytan: the xserver log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:23] <kahrytan> So
[13:24] <james_w> kahrytan has reported this issues as bug 220952
[13:24] <kahrytan> X in Hardy is bugged.
[13:25] <kahrytan> It doesnt know how to detect my monitor.
[13:25] <tjaalton> nvidia blob
[13:25] <kahrytan> It has nothing to do with nvidia
[13:25] <tjaalton> how so?
[13:26] <kahrytan> I have tried with NV, Nvidia and without either.
[13:26] <tjaalton> no logfile on the bug
[13:26] <tjaalton> please attach one
[13:26] <jcristau> tjaalton: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14028337/NV_Output_Xorg.log
[13:26] <kahrytan> You want one w/o the nvidia/nv use
[13:26] <tjaalton> oops
[13:27] <jcristau> no xorg.conf though
[13:27] <jcristau> and, that's not the full log
[13:27] <jcristau> please attach both
[13:27] <kahrytan> xorg.conf is messy
[13:27] <jcristau> then remove it and try again
[13:28] <jcristau> and attach the log from that
[13:28] <kahrytan> How
[13:28] <kahrytan> safely
[13:28] <tjaalton> move the xorg.conf aside and restart the server
[13:28] <kahrytan> it will generate new one from default?
[13:28] <jcristau> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:28] <jcristau> or something
[13:29] <kahrytan> It wont use NV/Nvidia will it?
[13:29] <tjaalton> it will use nv
[13:29] <jcristau> it should use nv
[13:29] <tjaalton> should, yes
[13:29] <kahrytan> NV doesnt do OpenGl
[13:30] <jcristau> you don't need 3d to test this
[13:30] <kahrytan> i know
[13:30] <kahrytan> brb
[13:42] <kahrytan> Xorg.conf didnt regenerate on it's own
[13:42] <tjaalton> no need to
[13:42] <tjaalton> the server autoconfigures itself
[13:42] <kahrytan> but it doesnt create the file
[13:43] <jcristau> no, it doesn't
[13:43] <kahrytan> So no need to attach
[13:43] <tjaalton> the log...
[13:43] <jcristau> need to attach the full log
[13:43] <jcristau> (if there is still a problem)
[13:43] <kahrytan> X uses NV driver?
[13:43] <tjaalton> just attach the log and we'll see
[13:44] <tjaalton> it detects your card and uses the best match
[13:44] <tjaalton> falls back to vesa
[13:44] <tjaalton> if no better alternative
[13:45] <kahrytan> It must rely on NV for modes
[13:46] <tjaalton> please. attach. the. log :)
[13:47] <kahrytan> i know NV detects cuz log says it
[13:48] <kahrytan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/220952
[13:48] <tjaalton> reading
[13:50] <tjaalton> what does 'xrandr' on the terminal say?
[13:50] <jcristau> kahrytan: so the problem is that when you start some games they change the resolution and end up with something the monitor doesn't like?
[13:50] <kahrytan> DDC did a crappy job at detecting
[13:50] <kahrytan> jcristau,  Yes.
[13:52] <kahrytan> tjaalton,  attach that too?
[13:52] <jcristau> yes please
[13:52] <kahrytan> i did turn nvidia back on though
[13:52] <jcristau> sigh
[13:53] <kahrytan> cuz gnome was slow w/o it
[13:53] <kahrytan> Nvidia does the same in detecting when in verbose mode.
[13:54] <jcristau> does xrandr -s 800x600 work?
[13:57] <kahrytan_> jcristau, thank you for that great suggestion. I had to reboot
[13:58] <tjaalton> then try with nv
[13:58] <tjaalton> so we can blame nvidia :)
[13:59] <kahrytan> lol
[13:59] <kahrytan> Please, no nvidia bashing
[14:00] <tjaalton> why not? take a look at the bugs against linux-restricted-modules*
[14:00] <kahrytan> How do I reset xrandr to good rate ?
[14:01] <kahrytan> Because it is not very uh.. ubuntu thing to do.
[14:02] <tjaalton> which?
[14:02] <tjaalton> damn
[14:07] <kahrytan> Im back
[14:07] <kahrytan> Ive tested xrandr -s 800x600 w/o nv and with it.
[14:08] <kahrytan> tjaalton, jcristau; guess the verdict
[14:08] <tjaalton> everythin works like a charm?
[14:08] <kahrytan> x likes to use the lowest rate for resolution.
[14:08] <tjaalton> g
[14:09] <tjaalton> 56Hz?
[14:09] <kahrytan> Lowest for NV is 56
[14:10] <kahrytan> It worked with NV/non-NV
[14:11] <kahrytan> And Nvidia does list 56hz
[14:12] <kahrytan> X forked nvidia reports.
[14:14] <kahrytan> Hello?
[14:14] <kahrytan> No talkers?
[14:14] <tjaalton> work
[14:15] <tjaalton> what do you mean "It worked with NV/non-NV"?
[14:15] <kahrytan> yeah
[14:15] <kahrytan> NV does say 56, Nvidia does say 56.
[14:15] <kahrytan> X just does 56 for NV and not for Nvidia.
[14:15] <tjaalton> so with nv 56Hz works?
[14:15] <kahrytan> yeah
[14:16] <tjaalton> so nvidia bug
[14:16] <kahrytan> no
[14:16] <kahrytan> X bug
[14:16] <tjaalton> explain why
[14:16] <kahrytan> cuz it's obviously not using 56hz for Nivida
[14:16] <tjaalton> uh
[14:17] <tjaalton> f*ck
[14:18] <kahrytan> How do i tell xrandr to use a specifix rate?
[14:18] <tjaalton> man xrandr
[14:19] <tjaalton> but nvidia doesn't support randr-1.2
[14:19] <tjaalton> so I don't think you can specify the rate
[14:19] <kahrytan> or maybe it is that kind of bug
[14:19] <kahrytan> nvidia not supporting new version of xrandr?
[14:19] <tjaalton> if you change the driver and it then fails to work -> driver  bug
[14:20] <tjaalton> yes, that's how it goes in the proprietary world
[14:20] <tjaalton> they lag behind
[14:20] <kahrytan> Not lag
[14:20] <tjaalton> nv doesn't support it either, except for G8x chips
[14:21] <kahrytan> Nvidia will eventually open up
[14:21] <kahrytan> when others do the same
[14:21] <jcristau> others already did
[14:21] <kahrytan> I hear ATI hasnt really
[14:22] <tjaalton> kahrytan: look, I adminster 300+ desktops which use nvidia, so I know the driver is not perfect
[14:22] <tjaalton> +i
[14:22] <jcristau> you hear weird stuff
[14:22] <kahrytan> Does the driver for ati suck ?
[14:22] <jcristau> fglrx certainly does
[14:22] <tjaalton> every driver sucks for some hardware, sure
[14:22] <kahrytan> Who makes that driver?
[14:24] <tjaalton> fglrx? ATI/AMD
[14:24] <kahrytan> And wheres the oss one?
[14:25] <kahrytan> I blame xrandr for breaking nvidia
[14:27] <tjaalton> no, if nvidia can't do 56Hz then it's nvidia bug
[14:27] <tjaalton> bug reassigned already
[14:27] <tjaalton> back to work->
[14:27] <kahrytan> does X uses xrandr for changing resolutions/rates?
[14:28] <kahrytan> tjaalton,  answer?
[14:30] <kahrytan> does X uses xrandr for changing resolutions/rates?
[19:52]  * bryce reads backlog - tjaalton erf that looked painful
[19:53] <bryce> tjaalton: anyway I agree when 2.3.1 is merged that would be a good time to finally turn off i810.  We should probably also put a priority on upstreaming all the remaining 8xx bugs in our tracker


[13:39] <rbasak> I used to be able to run sbuild with -pnever, and afterwards run schroot -r -c <chroot> to enter the chroot and find the build tree in /var/lib/sbuild/build
[13:40] <rbasak> Now /var/lib/sbuild/build doesn't seem to be available inside the schroot
[13:40] <rbasak> What changed, and how can I get to the sbuild build environment?
[13:44] <rbasak> Ah, I found /build inside the schroot
[13:45] <rbasak> That seems odd though, as it mismatches the sbuild log's use of var/lib/sbuild/build/
[23:42] <JackFrost> It's been noted that pyyaml should likely be merged from Debian since it fixes a few CVEs, fwiw.


[08:35] <jibel> Hi, does anybody get random kernel panic when booting the last natty iso in virtualbox ?
[11:51] <jibel> Anybody could test the latest natty desktop iso without 3d ? When I  boot from a livecd and select 'try ubuntu' there's no 'install ubuntu' link on the desktop but I need a confirmation if it's the iso or my setup.
[12:01] <pedro_> jibel, i'm syncing the iso, in ~30 minutes i'll be able to test
[12:42] <pedro_> jibel, confirming, same problem here
[12:42] <pedro_> jibel, but if you look at ~/Desktop the .desktop files are there
[12:42] <pedro_> just not being shown
[14:12] <jibel> pedro_, yep, you tried in a vm or real hw ?
[14:13] <pedro_> jibel, vm
[14:14] <jibel> pedro_, hm, I'd like to know if the pb is with the vm or with the desktop env instead.
[14:15] <jibel> pedro_, I've a lot of instabilities in a vm
[14:15] <jibel> marjo, ping
[14:15] <pedro_> jibel, i can try to test the same on real HW with a usb stick
[14:16] <jibel> pedro_, I don't have hw that is not 3d enabled :/ and I don't know a way to disable the 3d on the graphic card.
[14:16] <jibel> marjo, can you try something on your eeepc ?
[14:16] <pedro_> mm true, mine is 3d capable...
[14:17] <jibel> lets wait for charlie-tca
[14:18] <charlie-tca> Good morning.
[14:18] <charlie-tca> syncing now
[14:20] <jibel> good morning charlie-tca
[15:35] <charlie-tca> jibel: you want that run on a non-3d system?
[15:37] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes please, boot a livecd and select 'try ubuntu', the desktop is empty here and pedro_ as well  but we tried in vms.
[15:39] <charlie-tca> Okay. Trying now
[15:51] <charlie-tca> hm, this is painfully slow trying to bring up the desktop
[15:59] <charlie-tca> jibel: shows a desktop icon in 2d, using nvidia 6200
[15:59] <charlie-tca> hm, and wants me to install the hardware driver
[16:00] <jibel> charlie-tca, thanks for testing, that's a problem specific to VMs then.
[16:00] <charlie-tca> no problem
[16:00] <jibel> I'll retry and file a bug.
[16:00] <charlie-tca> well, probably should have said, You are welcome, instead ;-)
[16:04] <jibel> :-)
[16:06] <charlie-tca> running it up in vbox, too
[16:06] <charlie-tca> let's see what I get there
[16:07] <charlie-tca> heh, VBox 4.0 gave me the install icon
[16:07] <charlie-tca> Did they change the image late?
[16:08] <charlie-tca> jibel: all my tests were with the i386 desktop image
[16:09] <jibel> mine too, I'm resyncing the images.
[16:14] <jibel> charlie-tca, I confirm that the livesession is slooooooowwwwwwwwwwww
[16:16] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:17] <charlie-tca> Used to be able to start the install and get quite a ways in by the time it comes up now
[16:17] <charlie-tca> I am trying the 64bit image in vbox now
[16:21] <charlie-tca> oops. Lies and propaganda. I didn't get the 64bit image synced yet
[16:25] <jibel> argh, ubiquity crashing, X crashing, :-(


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[08:24] <alexarnaud> good morning all :)
[08:30] <c-lobrano> morning all :)
[12:56] <xnox> does anybody use hexchat with gnome shell?
[12:56] <xnox> it doesn't seem to integrate at all?
[13:00] <seb128> xnox, "integrate"?
[13:43] <willcooke> Laney, you ninjaed that po fix for the slideshow!  Thank you very much.
[13:43] <willcooke> Down in the Foundations room atm, so I won't speak to them about it
[13:43] <Laney> oh yeh
[13:43] <Laney> thought I said
[13:45] <Tribaal> hey all! I am hitting what I suspect is a gnome shell bug: installed snap desktop applications don't autocomplete in the dash (name?). Is that known? A quick search didn't turn up anything
[13:46] <Tribaal> these particular snaps *did* autocomplete on unity7 FWIW
[13:47] <willcooke> Tribaal, yeah, known issue I think. Trevinho is working on a fix
[13:47] <Tribaal> willcooke: Trevinho: awesome, thanks!
[13:51] <seb128> you mean they are not listed?
[14:04] <Trevinho> Tribaal: it's all about having proper XDG_DATA_DIRS set in gnome shell session, you can workaround it adding /var/lib/snapd/desktop to that env in /etc/profiles.d/
[14:05] <Tribaal> Trevinho: ahh, makes sense. Thanks!
[14:15] <seb128> it's fix commited in snapd
[14:15] <seb128> we just want an update
[14:15] <seb128> want->need
[14:19] <muktupavels> seb128: try to start gedit - `G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=libpeas PEAS_DEBUG=1 gedit`
[14:19] <seb128> hey muktupavels
[14:20] <seb128> what am I looking for?
[14:20] <seb128> you can't reproduce the issue?
[14:20] <seb128> it loads the plugin fine since the same override works fine without ":ubuntu"
[14:20] <muktupavels> check if that plugin is listed there?
[14:21] <muktupavels> I did not try with override, but I see that gedit / libpeas modifies that list when it is started
[14:22] <seb128> jamesh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1715479 ?
[14:23] <muktupavels> seb128: is that default plugin or should I install it?
[14:23] <didrocks> seb128: frame list row, viewport > list row { background: white }
[14:23] <seb128> muktupavels, well the issue we have is with rhythmbox
[14:23] <seb128> muktupavels, but gedit does the same
[14:24] <seb128> muktupavels, rhythmbox might be easier to test
[14:24] <seb128> muktupavels, gsettings get gives the :ubuntu default, start rhytmbox, close it and get gives the non overrided default
[14:24] <seb128> same with gedit
[14:25] <muktupavels> are you sure you see default? dconf-editor shows that key in bold, so it is modified and no longer default value.
[14:25] <seb128> right, it's not
[14:25] <seb128> it's set to what the non-per-desktop default is
[14:26] <seb128> no idea why rhythmbox/gedit (libpeas?) do that
[15:23] <seb128> muktupavels, sorry I'm at a conference and navigating between rooms and meetings, had to drop offline
[15:23] <seb128> did you need more info from me?
[15:23] <muktupavels> seb128: no I found problem, i will attach updated patches
[15:24] <seb128> muktupavels, great, thanks
[15:24] <seb128> what is it?
[15:25] <tkamppeter> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40565
[15:26] <seb128> oSoMoN, jibel, the systemd-bootchart manpage states " systemd-bootchart is invoked by the kernel by passing init=/lib/systemd/systemd-bootchart on the kernel commandline" which is what I did the previous time I tried it, edited the init from grub
[15:30] <seb128> muktupavels, k, I see the patches coming
[15:30] <muktupavels> seb128: new patches attached.
[15:30] <seb128> thanks
[15:30] <jibel> seb128, right, just added to grub config
[15:30] <muktupavels> g_settings_binding_key_changed ignored per-desktop default
[15:31] <muktupavels> you only need newest patch, other patches did not change
[15:33] <seb128> right, seems easy enough
[15:41] <GunnarHj> seb128: Would like to upload ubuntu-docs, but noticed that it's final beta freeze, and wondering about its implications. Should I wait till Friday, or can I upload now and put it in the queue so to say?
[15:42] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, just upload whenever you want, the release team handle the queue
[15:42] <seb128> they can keep it to after beta if they prefer
[15:42] <seb128> the archive is not going to unfreeze now anyway so no difference
[15:42] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, thanks!
[15:42] <seb128> GunnarHj, yw
[15:42] <seb128> GunnarHj, I just subscribed you to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1719668 for UIFe if you want to have a look
[15:47] <GunnarHj> seb128: Made a note on the bug report.
[15:47] <GunnarHj> Another thing: Can you give me write access to
[15:47] <GunnarHj> https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle ?
[15:47] <GunnarHj> (Will granted me access to the 17.10 board.)
[15:50] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks
[15:50] <seb128> GunnarHj, I invited you to the board, is that enough?
[15:51] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks
[15:52] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yes, it seems to be enough. Thanks.
[15:52] <seb128> yw
[16:32] <jibel> Laney, bug 1719678
[17:06] <qengho> fg
[17:06] <qengho> dang.
[19:06] <seb128> xnox, can you help debugging a systemd/nm/boot delay issue on artful?
[19:13] <jbicha> seb128: btw, LP: #1670336 can really slow boot
[19:14] <seb128> hey jbicha
[19:16] <seb128> jbicha, doesn't seem the issue there, it's nm-wait-online timeouting, but thanks for pointing it out
[19:19] <Laney> seb128: that's supposed to be fixed with the next systemd upload
[19:20] <Laney> systemctl mask it in the meantime
[19:23] <Laney> sudo systemctl mask systemd-networkd-wait-online
[19:23] <seb128> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1714301
[19:23] <duflu> tkamppeter, For example<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:37] <Trevinho> kenvandine: this is the part for the app id
[19:37] <Trevinho> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788207
[19:37] <Trevinho> Pusing the matching one after the break :)
[19:37] <kenvandine> Trevinho, thx!
[21:20] <jibel> Laney, proposed fix for the oem-prepare bug http://paste.ubuntu.com/25623033/ what do you think?
[21:22] <seb128> sil2100,^ we might want that in beta as well, oem-config-prepare is currently not working
[21:23] <sil2100> hmmm, I'm a bit worried we won't make it on time at this rate
[21:23] <sil2100> But it does look like something we'd like
[21:24] <sil2100> seb128, jibel: could you upload the fix?
[21:31] <jibel> seb128, sil2100 this fix is not critical for beta, oem-prepare works it just doesn't display the dialog telling the user it worked.
[21:32] <sil2100> ACK
[21:32] <sil2100> Good to know
[21:34] <jibel> cyphermox, when you have time to review https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubiquity/lp1719734-oem-prepare-wayland/+merge/331385
[21:34] <cyphermox> woohoo
[21:36] <cyphermox> jibel: I have a bunch of things I want to fix in ubiquity too, I'd do them tonight after our team dinner?
[21:36] <jibel> cyphermox, that's fine. Thanks!
[21:38] <sarnold> one wonders if you're doing the team dinner correctly if you can review patches afterwards :)
[21:40] <jibel> poutine is the secret of the true quebecois to review patches after a team dinner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
[21:40] <mdeslaur> sarnold: lol
[21:40] <mdeslaur> mmmm...poutine...


[11:57] <claydoh> goooood morning!
[14:10] <DarkwingUDS> Kubuntu Docs session starting in #ubuntu-uds-bonaire5
[14:10] <jjesse> yay
[14:53] <u2san> will 12.04 be 4.8 .x or 4.7.x?
[14:55] <yofel> u2san: 4.8.X
[15:06] <u2san> yofel, thanks.
[15:31] <Riddelll> UDS people, dinner tonight, disney or not disney?
[15:31] <Riddelll> you're missing out on the florida experience if you don't go to disney at least once
[15:32] <Riddell> maco: kubuntu accessibility rescheduled for friday
[15:32] <Riddell> agateau: rbelem wants you in kubuntu filesharing in 30 mins
[15:33] <agateau> Riddell: sir! yes, sir!
[15:34] <agateau> Riddell: actually I am already waiting for you all
[15:35]  * agateau is in bonaire7 :)
[16:19] <DarkwingUDS> Riddell: I'm boycotting Disney this time around :P:P
[17:22] <CIA-56> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Jonathan Kolberg * 182 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream bugfix release
[17:44] <yofel> bambee: is kde-workspace in ninjas the new tar?
[17:47] <shadeslayer> \o
[17:48] <yofel> hey shadeslayer
[17:48] <shadeslayer> ssup yofi
[17:49] <yofel> ...
[17:49] <yofel> still on 4.7.3
[17:49] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[17:50] <shadeslayer> I just came back from a 4 hour exam :P
[17:50] <yofel> good or bad? ^^
[17:50] <shadeslayer> and surprisingly I scored pretty good even though I wasn't even prepared for it
[17:50] <yofel> :D
[17:50] <shadeslayer> I studied for like just 2 days
[17:50] <bambee> yofel: yes it's kde-workspace-4.7.3-0ubuntu1~ppa2 ...
[17:51] <yofel> bambee: the one with the fix for kde bug 285347 ?
[17:53] <bambee> yofel: no it is the one synced with oneiric-proposed
[17:53] <bambee> (the fix pushed by agateau for lightdm)
[17:53] <yofel> can you refresh the tar please? (bump the upstream rev. to 4.7.3a)
[17:54] <bambee> don't compute, why don't import the patch?
[17:55] <yofel> well, you can do that too, it would be easier to just take the new upstream tar though
[17:57] <bambee> that's like get a bazooka to kill an insect...  I'd rather shoot one than touch it :)
[17:58] <yofel> lol
[17:59] <shadeslayer> wendar: hah, The TF is now available in my country as well :P
[18:05] <bambee> BarkingFish: lol :D
[18:06] <BarkingFish> bambee: I just don't like insects. Of any description.  Even if they're not insects, I still call them insects. Moths, butterflies, flies, beetles, spiders, whatever.
[18:07] <BarkingFish> One of two things happen to them - i hit them with a rolled up copy of The Times, or i use my backup (home made flamethrower, runs on cheapo aftershave)
[18:08] <BarkingFish> see you guys later, I'm going for some lunch and a rest.
[18:08] <BarkingFish> bbfn
[18:08] <bambee> butterflies and patch are acceptable, personnally I hate spiders and bee/wasp (I go out of the room sometimes :P)
[18:18] <apachelogger> whever happend to kubotu
[18:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: death by excessive IRC
[18:20] <bambee> quickgit.k.o is just unusable... seriously xD
[18:32] <claydoh> hallo apachelogger
[18:33] <apachelogger> halo
[18:33]  * claydoh wishes he an d shadeslayer ScottK valorie and all the missing were here
[18:35] <apachelogger> awww
[18:35]  * apachelogger hugs claydoh and the rest of the channel too while he is at it
[18:36] <claydoh> {{{group hug}}}
[18:47] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:47] <_Groo_> Riddell: ping
[18:49] <yofel> hey _Groo_
[18:50] <bambee> that's me or... usr/lib/kde4/kerfuffle_libbz2.so is no longer installed in kdeutils... o.O
[18:50] <CIA-56> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[18:52] <yofel> bambee: can't tell you without a full build log
[18:53] <bambee> see yourself http://paste.ubuntu.com/726601/
[18:54] <bambee> (it's not the full buildlog, just the useful part)
[18:54]  * bambee checks the code
[18:54] <_Groo_> hey yofel :)
[18:55] <debfx> maybe it failed to find the bzip2 lib?
[18:55] <yofel> bambee: check cmake output
[18:55] <bambee> mmh wait
[18:55] <CIA-56> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/korundum] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:56] <bambee> debfx: yeah, apparently
[18:57] <debfx> probably related to multiarch
[18:59] <yofel> we can start uploading to precise btw.
[19:06] <bambee> well, I added libbz2-dev into dependencies
[19:09] <debfx> bambee: it's already in build-depends. the problem is that cmake doesn't seem to find it in the multiarch path.
[19:10] <bambee> debfx: no it was not
[19:10] <bambee> (at least here)
[19:10] <debfx> oh kdeutils. sorry, I looked at the wrong package
[19:10] <bambee> np
[19:12] <yofel> bambee: is your last workspace upload in bzr?
[19:23] <CIA-56> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:24] <bambee> yofel: done
[19:24] <bambee> ahh commit conflict
[19:54] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's the state of dragon player?
[20:06] <Riddell> Kubuntu dudes - 19:00 bus to Downtown Disney
[20:07] <ejat-> Riddell: u going to downtown disney ?
[20:07] <ejat-> tonite?
[20:07] <bulldog98> Riddell: have fun all together :)
[20:07]  * ejat- plan to ... last night going to pointe orlando ..
[20:09] <Riddell> ejat-: yes that's the plan, although some of us are ill or tired or annoyed with disney so it might not be too many
[20:09] <Riddell> do join us if you want
[20:10] <yofel> have fun ^^
[20:10] <ejat-> yeah .. my pleasure ..
[20:10] <ejat-> yofel: u should be here :)
[20:10] <yofel> next time, hopefully :D
[20:11] <ejat-> Riddell: maybe i need to meet ya while free to check why i cant log in to my kubuntu even i already purge and reinstall back :(
[20:11] <ejat-> yofel: yeah .. hopefully i might get go to UDS then can meet ya ..
[20:12] <ejat-> Riddell: sorry for not joining kubuntu precise session too much since im going to community and cloud session ..
[20:25] <Riddell> blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4496
[20:28] <wendar> shadeslayer: ha, good timing. :) They might be B60 revision too (still flashable). That's what Quintasan got.
[20:29] <yofel> Quintasan: got is Dr. Pepper :D
[20:29] <Riddell> _Groo_: you pinged?
[20:30] <yofel> Riddell: when's that session on the packaging tutorial supposed to be?
[20:30] <Riddell> yofel: Friday I think
[20:30] <Riddell> do you need to learn how to package?
[20:31] <yofel> nah, and since I found it and it's 12:00 PM, I won't be there anyway
[20:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah, calligra packages are in my ppa since last week
[20:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: hows UDS going? :D
[20:32] <_Groo_> Riddell: i sent you a mail too
[20:33] <_Groo_> anyone bought the latest humble bundle?
[20:34] <Riddell> _Groo_: I got that, I e-mailed the calligra guys with it
[20:35] <_Groo_> Riddell: anyway its in https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/peppa
[20:35] <Riddell> what is humble bundle?
[20:35] <ulysses> _Groo_: I bought
[20:35] <_Groo_> Riddell: the packages are fully functional BUT from a packager point of view they are dirty
[20:36] <_Groo_> Riddell: i need to clean them up, but besides that, its all there
[20:36] <_Groo_> Riddell: question
[20:36] <_Groo_> ulysses: can you run binding of isaac in fullscreen in kubuntu? i cant, he doesnt go fs no mather what
[20:36] <_Groo_> Riddell: calligra have mobile and now active binaries
[20:37] <_Groo_> Riddell: should i put active inside mobile, or make a active package just for them?
[20:38] <ulysses> _Groo_: I didn't try it yet, but I'll install in a minute
[20:38] <_Groo_> ulysses: k :) its lots of fun, all 3 of them :D
[20:38] <_Groo_> ulysses: i always buy humble bundles :)
[20:38] <_Groo_> brb
[20:39] <ulysses> yeah, I bought the latest three of them
[20:39] <Riddell> _Groo_: isn't calligra mobile just an older version of calligra active?
[20:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: nope
[20:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: mobile is for the n900, aimed at smartphones, active is for tablets and the like, for now they are diferent programs and diferent binaries, thats why i ask
[20:41] <Quintasan> yofel: Oh yeah, I've got two 2,5litre bottles
[20:41]  * Quintasan be happy
[20:42] <_Groo_> ulysses: pls test isaac and see if you can go fullscreen
[20:42] <_Groo_> ulysses: when you have the time
[20:42] <Riddell> _Groo_: well then I'd say we want both in separate .debs
[20:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer, wendar: We be getting oneriric images for TF soon
[20:42] <Quintasan> oneiric*
[20:42] <Quintasan> it's so hard to spell
[20:42] <Quintasan> :S
[20:42] <ulysses> o.O qapt-deb-installer says binding-of-isaac_20111101_i386.deb isn't compatible with my system
[20:42] <Quintasan> _Groo_: Get them into Debian if possible
[20:43] <Quintasan> The less delta the better
[20:43] <Riddell> yofel: that "contour" package you made, where is the source from?
[20:44] <_Groo_> ulysses: 32 or 64?
[20:44] <ulysses> _Groo_: 32 bit, and how can I switch to full screen?
[20:44] <_Groo_> ulysses: you should press F or go to options
[20:44] <_Groo_> ulysses: thats the idead
[20:44] <ulysses> doesn't work
[20:45] <_Groo_> ulysses: isaac is basically a flash game, maybe something is broken in linux land
[20:45] <_Groo_> ulysses: yep so its confirmed
[20:45] <_Groo_> ulysses: tks, but it works fine in window mode, just maximize it.. lots of fun
[20:45] <_Groo_> ulysses: crazy sick game :D
[20:45] <wendar> Quintasan: yeah, I'm waiting for the B80 to be flashable (http://androidroot.mobi/)
[20:46] <ulysses> ghostcube: I played Voxatron a little bit, it's fun too :)
[20:46] <ulysses> meh, wrong tab
[20:46] <ulysses> _Groo_: ^_^
[20:46] <_Groo_> ulysses: heh
[20:46] <_Groo_> ulysses: all three are time wasters :D
[20:47] <_Groo_> ulysses: i should be cleaning calligra, but im playing blocks instead, shhhh ;)
[20:48] <Quintasan> wendar: Ha, good luck :)
[20:48] <Quintasan> I'll be enjoying Kubantooz on my tablet soon
[20:48] <Quintasan> Mwhahahah
[20:48] <Quintasan> <insert sinister laugh here>
[20:48] <wendar> Quintasan: yay!
[20:49] <ulysses> _Groo_: I should write 5-10 page for the Hungarian Free Software Foundation 'til today, but I'm playing too :)))
[20:52] <_Groo_> ulysses: ahah procrastination FTW!
[20:53] <ulysses> I beaten the lord of flies!
[20:57] <yofel> Riddell: IIRC bulldog98 got that from somewhere.... (opensuse?)
[20:57] <bulldog98> yofel: what?
[20:57] <yofel> bulldog98: contour
[20:58] <yofel> IIRC we hacked that together at DS
[20:58] <bulldog98> openbuildserver
[20:58] <bulldog98> yep
[20:59] <Riddell> it doesn't seem to do much
[20:59] <Riddell> are you sure it's not obsolete?
[21:00] <bulldog98> it is
[21:01] <Riddell> suspected so
[21:01] <bulldog98> it was put into plasma-mobile
[21:02]  * bulldog98 thinks we should update the PPA
[21:03] <Riddell> right, the different bits and naming in plasma active are pretty confusing
[21:28] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Me and rbelem gonna get to that at some point
[21:28] <Quintasan> if not here at uds then late in the cycle
[21:29] <bulldog98> Quintasan: I’ll work on that too :)
[21:44] <maco> wendar uses quassel!
[21:45] <Quintasan> Quassel is susperior IRC technology
[21:45] <Quintasan> Sput++
[21:46] <Quintasan> superior*
[21:48] <bambee> quassel++
[21:48] <bambee> Sput++
[21:48] <yofel> quassel++
[21:48] <bambee> I use quasselcore on my server to share my irc session between differents clients... it rocks so much :D
[21:50]  * Sput feels highlighted
[21:52] <bulldog98> Sput++
[21:52] <bulldog98> ~karma Sput
[21:53] <bulldog98> !karma Sput
[21:56] <yofel> bulldog98: kubotu got lost on the way to UDS, apachelogger hasn't found him yet
[21:57] <bulldog98> apachelogger: what have you done to kubotu? how do you dare to harm him ;)
[21:59] <bulldog98> btw do we have a #kubuntu-active ?
[21:59] <yofel> for... ?
[21:59] <bulldog98> coordinating our active affort
[21:59] <bulldog98> :)
[22:00] <yofel> can't you just do that in here?
[22:00] <bulldog98> yofel: no every body is watching us here :)
[22:00]  * yofel just doesn't want yet another # that ends up like -bugs
[22:00] <bulldog98> hm
[22:01] <yofel> I'm no IRC OP though
[22:03] <Riddell> I'd rather just use this channel
[22:04] <bulldog98> ok
[22:04] <yofel> hm, can we SRU new binary packages? (I'm wondering how to get the kalgebra backend for cantor back)
[22:04] <yofel> the debian folks got it on  for kalgebra, adding 3 new packages to kalgebra
[22:04] <yofel> s/on/done/
[22:05] <Riddell> yofel: yes but it usually won't pass the minimal and sessential test
[22:05] <bulldog98> so maybe we have to keep kalgebra and cantor at 4.7.2
[22:06] <bulldog98> if we don’t get SRU permission
[22:06] <yofel> I guess I could just add kalgebra-dev and leave libanalitza where it is
[22:06] <yofel> bulldog98: it's not a 4.7.3 issue
[22:06] <yofel> it's just that getting the package back requires some packaging changes in kalgebra
[22:06] <bulldog98> hm
[22:07] <bulldog98> that does not sound good
[22:07] <yofel> for precise I synced it with debian, so no problem
[22:07] <yofel> now I'm wondering what to do with oneiric
[22:08] <yofel> it's really more about the headers, I guess adding a package for them should survive a SRU review
[22:21] <ejat> Riddell: r u still there ? or already waiting for the shuttle ? :)
[22:23] <bulldog98> yofel: sorry for forgetting to update the Wiki
[22:26] <Riddell> ejat: bus at 19:00
[22:27] <Riddell> so be outside conference building at 18:50ish
[22:27] <ejat> u still at conference building ? yeah .. sure .. im at the room right now .. will be there .. will join ya if u dont mind :)
[22:27] <ejat> who else ? Quintasan ?
[22:29] <Riddell> ejat: sure
[22:54]  * yofel is off to bed - good night