[00:00] <MrPPS> is there a way I can make nautilus default launch with the "--no-desktop" option, without symlinking?
[00:01] <high_fiver> Hi
[00:03] <Iota-Spencer> usr13: http://stirkbin.com/a22507
[00:10] <high_fiver> ?
[00:11] <high_fiver>     exit
[00:12] <MonkeyDust> MrPPS  alias nautilus='nautilus --no-desktop'  <-- put that in ~/.bashrc
[00:13] <wagner_> hello! when I update my system, always return gpg key error, I already added the keys, but error continue. I'm using ubuntu 14.04.
[00:19] <Corgi_> Can someone help me with crontab?
[00:19] <Corgi_> I'm using a VPS, and here's the line I'm using to run a PHP script every 5 minutes:
[00:20] <jeremy_> need some help with grub
[00:20] <Corgi_> */5 * * * * /usr/local/bin/curl  http://mysite.com/reddit-bot/index.php
[00:20] <jeremy_> my computer wont boot
[00:21] <Guest66190> anyone here can help with grub
[00:21] <Guest66190> ?
[00:22] <Corgi_> What does this mean?
[00:22] <Corgi_> CRON[14838]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[00:23] <Iota-Spencer> you don't have a mail transfer agent installed and a cron is trying to send an email either locally or remotely
[00:24] <fantasma> hola amigos de linux
[00:24] <kyysi> HOLA AMIGO
[00:24] <MrPPS> Thanks MonkeyDust
[00:24] <MrPPS> I'll give that a shot
[00:24] <MrPPS> Not really sure why I didn't think of aliases..
[00:24] <Iota-Spencer> !es | fantasma
[00:24] <MrPPS> Haha
[00:26] <ejuan> Question: Does Ubuntu 14.04 have newer proprietary ATI driver packages then 12.04?
[00:29] <fantasma> hola kyysi q me cuentas
[00:40] <happyfr0gg> How do I include a battery status indicator on my Ubuntu 12.04 log in screen?
[00:54] <Corgi_> Why doesn't this CRON work?
[00:54] <Corgi_> * * * * * usr/bin/php /var/www/reddit-bot/index.php
[00:54] <Corgi_> Supposed to run the script every minute.
[00:55] <kendrick> is there some flash card software that's available on the repository?
[01:00] <pksadiq> kendrick: apt-cache search flash card shows some: anki, granule, kwordquiz mathwar etc
[01:00] <happyfr0gg> query %s
[01:00] <kendrick> what's ape-cache pksadiq ?
[01:01] <pksadiq> kendrick: its a program in Debian GNU/Linux which helps us to search what is in the repository
[01:02] <kendrick> pksadiq, cool i will start using it thanks...
[01:03] <Corgi_> aaa why isn't this working
[01:03] <Corgi_> * * * * * usr/bin/php /var/www/reddit-bot/index.php
[01:04] <Nickwiz> How can I install previous version of Chrome by apt? Current version crashes constantly.
[01:06] <x_> whats up my nigga
[01:06] <kyysi> SUP NIQQA
[01:09] <pksadiq> Nickwiz: You may try apt-get install package=version to install a package of specific version. This is possible only if the package is in repo, try apt-cache policy package
[01:09] <Locke2002> Corgi_: Shouldn't there be a leading / on /usr/bin/php ?
[01:10] <Nickwiz> pksadiq: Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[01:10] <ax562> anyone know why ubuntu 12.04 lts wants me to activate my video drivers every time I log in to ubuntu?
[01:10] <ax562> 664-bit
[01:10] <ax562> ^64bit
[01:11] <Nickwiz> … dang. Got exited there and thought I could get me a 664-bit processor.
[01:12] <ax562> lol
[01:12]  * pksadiq thought that he was in #debian
[01:16] <boriseto> I have a problem. In /etc/fstab there are no UUIDs or any data for the partitions, but I get info back with "sudo blkid". Is there a way to rebuild the fstab file?
[01:17] <purrr> hello everyone, I want to add a plugin to compiz, anyone know how?
[01:18] <ProfessorKaos64> anyone know how I can locate the info passed to something like jstest-gtk? Namely I want to grab the specific device address (looks like a MAC address). each ps3 controller has it's own number in jstest-gtk. See: http://i.imgur.com/30yjavO.png
[01:19] <le4fy> what do you guys run as window managers?
[01:20] <purrr> never mind. just needed compiz extras
[01:21] <ax562> anyone know why ubuntu 12.04 lts wants me to activate my video drivers every time I log in to ubuntu?
[01:21] <Iota-Spencer> le4fy: lxde + openbox
[01:32] <pixlepix> Quick question: Using firefox, how do I set it to open everything with xdg-open
[01:40] <sysmoon_> my raspberry pi hostapd error occured. syslog show me "deauthenticated due to local deauth request" how can i solve this?
[01:46] <sepero> ax562: sounds like a bug
[01:47] <n1xman> how to add filezilla to ubuntu 12.04? There's Official repository inside our office network, but what other "ubuntu" official repo is there which I can use outside the office network?
[01:47] <skilz> nvidia driver, my startup screen is messed up
[01:47] <skilz> after installing the nvidia driver, my startup screen is messed up
[01:47] <ax562> sepero: yeah,  It's a new one though.  I change to recommended and still does it on next boot.  I change to the post recommended and same.
[01:48] <skilz> It doesn't show the loading screen and the font size is big in the console.
[01:48] <skilz> the grapical load screen is gone now its big ugly text
[01:49] <sepero> n1xman: will they let you use repos outside your network?
[01:49] <n1xman> I'm not sure, it's for a friend. But what is the official ubuntu repo?
[01:50] <sepero> skilz: I wish I could help, but my knowledge on video gfx is super poor  :(
[01:50] <sepero> n1xman: there are a few
[01:50] <ObrienDave> quite a few
[01:50] <n1xman> sepero: what's the safest one?
[01:51] <ObrienDave> any official repo is fairly safe
[01:51] <sepero> n1xman: you can usually find them in the /etc/apt/sources.list, they are only commented out
[01:51] <probo> hi all
[01:51] <sepero> probo: hi hi
[01:51] <n1xman> sepero: OK, I"ll tell him to check now
[01:53] <probo> i have ubuntu 14.04 and when i update to this version only gimp and chrome shows pics with good color darktable aftershootpro dont display good colors why?
[01:53] <sepero> I'd like to ask a favor of everyone in here. Please tell me your external ip address and ping me at <IP_ADDRESS>. I'm trying to test my firewall
[01:53] <sepero> Any one that is willing
[01:55] <n1xman> sepero: thee are 8 entries, none commented out. all from precise
[01:55] <sepero> probo: I never heard of aftershootpro. Do the colors not display good in any other programs?
[01:56] <n1xman> sepero: ping failed
[01:56] <sepero> n1xman: I'll PM you what is in my sources.list
[01:56] <n1xman> sepero: ok
[01:56] <probo> ububtu default pics viewer dont display good colors too
[01:57] <probo> only gimp display good and webbrowsers
[01:59] <Bashing-om> sepero: "3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms" .
[02:00] <Blue1> I did a fresh install of xubuntu -- but the desktop is all messed up -- I removed the old desktop but it's back - and programmes autostart -- but it's not in the startup -- HELP!
[02:00] <sepero> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:04] <probo> sepero: http://postimg.org/image/85mw3jzd9/   left picture i open using gimp right picture i open using darktable
[02:04] <probo> you see differences
[02:08] <danikar> Is there a way on the command line to figure out what the current gtk theme is?
[02:10] <sepero> tough questions
[02:10] <JiHui_Choi> hello,all. I want to copy all files but except some on the list using bash shell script. how can I do?
[02:11] <Bashing-om> danikar: Maybe something like -> cat /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini <- ??
[02:11] <trism> danikar: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme
[02:14] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1313590/bash-copy-all-files-except-one
[02:15] <JiHui_Choi> sepero: thank you, but my list file has more than 10 file names.
[02:16] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: ah
[02:17] <somsip> !info php-apc
[02:17] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: So you have a file with a list of filenames, and you don't want to copy the files in that list? correct
[02:17] <JiHui_Choi> sepero : what I really wanna do is, I want to backup some files and write the names of backuped  to "backup_files". and the next day do it again but except files on the "backup_files" which are backuped today.
[02:18] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: sounds like you want to use rsync
[02:19] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: rsync has a lot of options and can be confusing at first
[02:21] <JiHui_Choi> sepero: not exactly, because I will copy files to /tmp, tar, and delete them. but I want to keep the files in the source directory as well.
[02:22] <sandpiper> has anyone else noticed major problems after installing the trusty 3.13.0-32 kernel update?
[02:23] <sandpiper> currently using 3.13.0-30 for now
[02:23] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: so you think rsync won't work for your needs? if not, why?
[02:23] <sandpiper> like not booting, messing up filesystem and superblock, or lightdm not starting
[02:24] <sandpiper> there must be an issue with the maintainer introduced patches in the latest version
[02:24] <sepero> sandpiper: i haven't had such issues   3.13.0-30-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP
[02:24] <sleepee> so far, so good for me @ sandpiper
[02:24] <JiHui_Choi> sepero: Is it possible? I don't know about rsync well.. If it is, I'll try to figure out how. thank you. :)
[02:24] <sandpiper> yea thats what im using, the newest is 3.13.0-32 thats the one causing probs
[02:24] <sepero> sandpiper: I'm on 64bit
[02:24] <sandpiper> 32bit here
[02:24] <sandpiper> i just have no clue where to begin debugging or what to look for
[02:25] <sleepee> 64 for me
[02:25] <saiarcot895> sandpiper: I'm on -32, and haven't had any problems. 64-bit
[02:25] <sandpiper> i might try using the utopic kernel since that seems to be based on newer upstream, dont really wanna use mainline ppa unless i have to
[02:25] <sepero> JiHui_Choi: I think rsync can work for you, but only as a piece of a bigger puzzle. It sounds like you require a script of actions to perform your task
[02:26] <sandpiper> but ive noticed issues on fresh installs, five times, there gotta be something going on lol
[02:26] <saiarcot895> sandpiper: Well, if you want to use the kernel in utopic, you have to use a PPA (until 14.04.2 is released)
[02:27] <sepero> sandpiper: hardware comflict perhaps
[02:27] <sandpiper> ok, but those are still different from the 'mainline kernels' right?
[02:27] <sleepee> does anybody that does web design have suggestions as far as a dreamweaver-ish wysiwyg editor for ubuntu?
[02:27] <sepero> sandpiper: have you tried the other 3.13.0-XX kernels?
[02:28] <sandpiper> ive tried up to 3.13.0-30, its the 3.13.0-32 thats causing probs for me
[02:28] <sepero> sandpiper: perhaps go back to using -30 then ?
[02:28] <sandpiper> yea thats what im doing for now
[02:29] <sepero> sandpiper: then apt-mark hold linux-image-3.13.0-30-generic
[02:29] <sandpiper> im just not sure if the 3.13.0-30 will receive security updates? like the 3.13.0-24 (default trusty) kernel does
[02:30] <cfhowlett> sleepee http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver
[02:30] <sepero> sandpiper: i see
[02:30] <sandpiper> default install kernel is *24 i believe it still gets updates if linux-generic etc is pinned, since thats lts release
[02:31] <sandpiper> the other one ate my ext4 superblock heh
[02:32] <sepero> sucks
[02:32] <sandpiper> easy to recover tho and use backup /boot
[02:33] <sleepee> cfhowlett:  thanks.  i saw that page, but i'm not sure how up to date it is.  i mean, aptana is at version 3, and do people still use seamonkey?
[02:34] <danikar> So I am using i3 on a xubuntu install, and I am getting some weird behavior. I am trying to use the Adwaita gtk theme, and I set it up in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and it seems to be working for evince. But xfce terminal does not seem to be getting the memo.
[02:35] <sleepee> i kinda just wanted to see if anybody here could give me some pointers from actual experience with an editor.
[02:35] <cfhowlett> sleepee I don't know.  you can certainly use the more updated packages and I believe kompozer is actively maintained
[02:35] <danikar> If i do gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme it says I am using 'Greybird', but it should say 'Adwaita' I think.
[02:35] <sandpiper> im also having scrollbar issues on EVERYTHING, vertical scrollbar is lagging and not very responsive, i think its some new gtk3 thing
[02:35] <sleepee> yea, it looks like a lot of people like kompozer.  i think i'll take a look at it.  thanx!
[02:40] <SMiller>  Hello. How does one apply a patch to a kernel source? I tried to use command (patch -p1 < /usr/src/0004-HID-kye-Add-support-for-3-tablets.patch) into the konsole and was asked "File to patch:" and put in Kconfig.hz and was given "Permission denied".
[02:40] <trism> danikar: your problem with xfce terminal is probably that it is gtk2 not gtk3 so the gtk-3.0/settings.ini won't affect it
[02:40] <trism> danikar: whereas evince is gtk3
[02:42] <SMiller> Is see.  Looks like it is being affected. I think I was looking at it when I turned it off temporarily. So my understanding is there are different types of themes for Icons, Cursors and the main themes. I think /usr/share/themes is where main themes are and /usr/share/icons is icon themes. Anyone know where cursor themes are?
[02:42] <tlanix> hello
[02:43] <tlanix> i need help with my laptops's FN Brightness keys?
[02:43] <sandpiper> ill have to check, i assumed xfce4-terminal was gtk3 now too, since it was having the same scrollbar issue as everything else ive been having
[02:43] <tlanix> it seems when i run kernel 3.16rc7 it works fine with opensource driver
[02:43] <tlanix> but when i install catalyst driver it breaks the FN Brightness controls
[02:43] <trism> danikar: cursors go in /usr/share/icons/ too
[02:44] <tlanix> anyone help ?
[02:44] <SMiller> ALso just stating I'm using Kubuntu 14.04. Dont know if that makes any difference.
[02:44] <danikar> trism: awesome thanks. Any idea why gsettings is saying my theme is still greybird?
[02:44] <danikar> Was kind of hoping to be able to set the theme, and some how check that the themes are indeed being set
[02:47] <nf7> Hello, could someone recommend a distro similar to Ubuntu (ease of use-wise), but significantly "lighter"?
[02:47] <bng> hi all, can you help me with ppa-purge on precise-based elementary please?
[02:48] <ObrienDave> nf7, Xubuntu
[02:48] <bng> nf7: try elementary os, just don't add xorg ppa's :)
[02:48] <ObrienDave> nf7, Xubuntu
[02:49] <nf7> ObrienDave: Thank you. It's not actually for me, I'm just putting it on a netbook so I can sell it.
[02:51] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu ;P
[02:55] <nf7> Thanks, I'm going with it simply because it has Xfce, and that's my favorite light DE!
[02:56] <bng> I am trying to ppa-purge xorg-edgers but it wants to remove my desktop :(
[02:57] <ObrienDave> nf7, cool, +1
[03:01] <ObrienDave> that is not a good thing
[03:03] <Eric^^> ulimit isn't persistent, right?
[03:03] <ObrienDave> huh?
[03:03] <tlanix> no idea why my brightness FN keys don't work
[03:04] <Eric^^> if you ulimit -n 1, it'll reset to 1024 after logging out and back in right?
[03:04] <Eric^^> i can't change it cause i only have 1 allowed open file, can't even ls a dir
[03:04] <bng> maybe a newer linux kernel would support them?
[03:05] <opt> REGISTER 123456
[03:05] <opt> QUIT
[03:05] <bng> tlanix: maybe a newer linux kernel would support them?
[03:05] <sepero> bng: i think you have to reinstall the packages that the ppa replaced. it could be tricky
[03:06] <sepero> bng: might be easiest to do with synaptic or aptitude
[03:06] <bng> sepero: yes ppa-purge wants to remove too many of them instead of just replacing the few dozens
[03:07] <tlanix> bng  yes it work with kernel 3.16rc7
[03:07] <tlanix> but when i installed catalyst so i can game it breaks the fn controls
[03:07] <tlanix> wondering if there is a fx
[03:08] <bng> sepero: I am trying to force versions in synaptic, is it safe to reinstall -desktop and xorg?
[03:09] <bng> tlanix: no way, I have countless problems with fglrx also
[03:09] <sepero> bng: Sounds correct to me
[03:09] <rawfodog> my sound doesnt work
[03:10] <bng> sepero: synaptic does not allow me to do that anyway, some other dependency problems or what
[03:11] <bng> sepero: but if it did, would it really be safe? wouldnt reinstalling xorg shut it down and kill the dektop?
[03:12] <sepero> bng: it could. it sounds like a good chunk of your packages got replaced
[03:12] <tlanix> bng is there an easy fix?
[03:12] <tlanix> the display menu pops up when i try to turn down the brightness
[03:14] <bng> tlanix if it is caused by fglrx i have no idea what to do with that, I cannot even install the damn thing
[03:14] <tlanix> i don';t i will be able to fix it until catalyst updates support for 3.16
[03:16] <bng> tlanix: I think that pretty much all the problems I have on my computer are because of fglrx
[03:22] <jeffreylevesque> Is it possible to Allow Remote Desktop into a second partition of the machine you're on if only the first partition is logged into?
[03:23] <Monona> My wireless won't turn on, and there's nothing about wireless in the widget uptop.  Using 12.04.4
[03:24] <bng> Monona: maybe it is not supported in 12.04?
[03:26] <bng> Monona: I would try a newer version
[03:27] <ObrienDave> like 14.04.1
[03:29] <asoma> When I try to create a primary partition on a wiped hard drive, I get a "short read whole creating root dir".
[03:29] <asoma> Whoops
[03:29] <asoma> Let me try that again
[03:30] <asoma> When trying to create a primary partition on a wiped HDD using Gparted, I get a "short read while creating root dir". Is this fixable or is my HDD fried?
[03:31] <ObrienDave> could be fried, try changing partition tables
[03:32] <asoma> How do I do that?
[03:33] <ObrienDave> create partition,  go for GPT
[03:33] <asoma> Or could I try making an ext3 or NTFS partition instead?
[03:33] <ObrienDave> create file system, sorry
[03:33] <asoma> Oh wait a minute
[03:33] <ObrienDave> you could, just a sec
[03:33] <asoma> Now after the refresh it's saying "no devices detected"
[03:34] <ObrienDave> unplug and remount
[03:34] <asoma> I'm on Partedmagic and when I check with GSmartCotrol it says Unknown model where it used to say Samsung HD
[03:35] <asoma> Unplug the hard drive from the port, you mean?
[03:36] <ObrienDave> yes
[03:36] <asoma> Okay, just a second
[03:37] <bagel`> i have GRUB_DEFAULT=2 in /etc/default/grub but for some reason its still booting the first menuentry in /boot/grub/grub.cfg when i need it to boot the 3rd menuentry which would be GRUB_DEFAULT=2
[03:38] <bagel`> i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 but its not booting the right kernel
[03:38] <ObrienDave> fix it with grub-custoizer
[03:39] <bagel`> shouldnt grub_default=2 be it?
[03:39] <sepero> asoma: you're definitely having hardware problems
[03:39] <ObrienDave> *grub-customizer
[03:39] <bagel`> and im running command line
[03:39] <bagel`> i dont have gui
[03:39] <cfhowlett> asoma I think your HD is suspect
[03:39] <ObrienDave> bagel`, that would have been nice to know
[03:40] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, sharpening up the snarky stick ;P
[03:40] <m3uparser> Hello
[03:40] <_2_annabanana> heyy
[03:40] <bagel`> any ideas?
[03:41] <m3uparser> i am trying to parse my m3u file
[03:41] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave NoSnark30DayChallenge begins today
[03:41] <m3uparser> using this bash script i got off reddit https://pad.riseup.net/p/TBG3mw6kPjxn
[03:41] <_2_annabanana> any sexi boys up for some hotness on the phone
[03:41] <m3uparser> whats wrong with it?
[03:41] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, you win, i lose ;P
[03:41] <cfhowlett> _2_annabanana you are in the wrong channel.  sell your goods elsewhere
[03:41] <sepero> bagel`  idk other than reading hoe to edit grub filed, sorry
[03:42] <sepero> bagel`: "how" "files"
[03:42] <ObrienDave> _2_annabanana, is probably 90 years old with 14 grandchildren
[03:42] <motsu> hello, i have an encrypted home folder and deleted somehting off my desktop. im trying to recover it with extundelete or testdisk. neither can see the file structure because its encrypted. how can i go about making a copy of the file system without clobbering the file metadata blocks and such that the programs need?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> motsu you done messed up good!  this is not a trivial fix, though not impossible, I think.
[03:43] <asoma> A
[03:43] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[03:43] <HikaruBG> and gals! )
[03:43] <HikaruBG> :)
[03:43] <HikaruBG> i have a problem with my Ubuntu!
[03:43] <sepero> motsu: dd if=/dev/sdaX of=/path/to/imagefile.img
[03:43] <asoma> Could it just need dusting?
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !ask|HikaruBG
[03:44] <asoma> Or maybe it's too hot outside.
[03:44] <HikaruBG> when I close the lid of my VAIO it won't fo to Hibernate, but it shuts the OS Off and then starts all over. Any suggestions?
[03:45] <motsu> sepero: the home folder partition is 300gb and the hdd in my laptop is 500gb, would i have to output to an external hard drive? the only external i have is ntfs, would that mess with anything? im assuming not, but i know i only get one shot with this.
[03:46] <m3uparser> https://pad.riseup.net/p/TBG3mw6kPjxn << Script to parse my m3u file not working.
[03:46] <sepero> motsu: yes, you need a bigger free space than your partition. if you have 300gb free on your external, then it should work. if you have a faulty disk, use the program dd_rescue instead
[03:46] <HikaruBG> back
[03:46] <HikaruBG> so the laptop will not SUSPEND!
[03:46] <cfhowlett> m3uparser ask in #bash.  this isn't really a scripting channel
[03:46] <sepero> motsu: s/faulty disk/hard drive problems/
[03:47] <HikaruBG> every time i want it to suspend it does, and when I try to wake it up, starts booting from the beginning
[03:47] <motsu> no, nothings wrong with the drive... just me messing up and selecing the wrong file :/
[03:47] <HikaruBG> any suggestions?
[03:47] <motsu> use sleep, not hibernate
[03:47] <motsu> shance the power settings to sleep on lid close instead.
[03:48] <motsu> s/shance/change
[03:48] <sepero> motsu: after you create the image, as root you be able to loop mount it as a regular partition
[03:48] <HikaruBG> no sleep option - the Ubuntu 14.04 offers only 'Log Out', 'Suspend', 'Shut Down'
[03:49] <HikaruBG> motsu: any other suggestions?
[03:49] <motsu> sepero: never done that before, but extundelete looks for a file like /dev/sda/... but wants the partition to be unmounted
[03:49] <sepero> motsu: if you want to see the progress of the transfer, you can use the program pv
[03:49] <asoma> I unplugged it, now I'm trying again
[03:49] <motsu> HikaruBG: no idea, i use a crazy modified mint. the ubuntu community just has better help than anywhere else :p
[03:50] <sepero> motsu: dd if=/dev/sdaX | pv > /path/to/image_file.img
[03:50] <asoma> Okay it successfully created the ext4 partition
[03:50] <asoma> Now I'll add a swap
[03:50] <HikaruBG> thanks motsu! :) that helps too! :)
[03:50] <HikaruBG> oh, one more question, thank you for reminding me, asoma!
[03:51] <HikaruBG> I have 8GB Ram - do I need a SWAP partition?
[03:51] <sepero> HikaruBG: Generally no
[03:51] <motsu> sepero: nah, i just do the sigusr1 method
[03:51] <asoma> Okay, the swap partition was successful
[03:51] <motsu> doesnt pv add more overhead to the dd?
[03:51] <sepero> motsu: no
[03:51] <asoma> Now I'll test it by putting in a live CD and trying to install
[03:52] <sepero> motsu: the overhead is insignificant
[03:53] <sepero> motsu: after you've been waiting 5 hours for the image to copy, you'll be glad you used pv
[03:53] <motsu> trye
[03:53] <motsu> true*
[03:55] <x_> rawlogs
[03:55] <motsu> and um, stupid question, but mount doesnt show the /dev partition name, it just says /home/motsu35/.private on /home/motsu35
[03:55] <sepero> motsu: you using lvm?
[03:56] <motsu> i believe so yes.
[03:56] <sepero> motsu: well, you have to figure out which partition it is
[03:57] <Nothing_Much> How do you tell the difference at the end of the "diff" command?
[03:57] <sepero> motsu: i'm pretty ignorant of lvm stuff
[03:57] <motsu> well, fdisk is showing it as /dev/sda6
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much man diff will tell
[03:58] <sepero> Nothing_Much: not sure what you mean
[03:58] <motsu> im just not sure if thats a fake logical thing that is made after lvm does its magic
[03:58] <motsu> guess it wouldnt matter though...
[03:58] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: "the difference at the end"???
[03:58] <Nothing_Much> Um.. it's only like 5 lines long, can I copy and paste it?
[03:59] <NeoGeo64> I'm running Mint Linux 17.  Does that make me a bad person?
[03:59] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: pastebin it instead. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:59] <sepero> motsu: maybe try dd if=/home/motsu35/.private
[03:59] <motsu> sepero: when i dd, you said i do /dev/sda/sda6. wouldnt it be /dev/sda6?
[03:59] <Nothing_Much> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7891198/
[03:59] <motsu> NeoGeo64: yes, its not GNU enough
[03:59] <Nothing_Much> lol
[04:00] <Nothing_Much> #ubuntu-offtopic guys
[04:00] <Nothing_Much> but yeah, what does that paste represent?
[04:00] <Nothing_Much> X 764 /X and such and such
[04:00] <Monona> bng: how would I check to see?  I like LTS because it stays pretty stable
[04:01] <sepero> motsu: if you can do   dd if=/home/motsu35/.private   then you should get an unencrypted image of the partition
[04:01] <sepero> motsu: otherwise, yes, you would use sda6
[04:02] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: if I recall correctly, lines 1&2 are the 'before' text, lines 3 & 4 the 'after' text. Looks like XML source. Can you look at the source files?
[04:02] <motsu> sepero: so, i dont think that would work... .private is a symlink to /home/.ecryptfs/motsu35/.Private/ and /home/.encryptfs is a symlink to its self....
[04:02] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: I was following this part: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Check_Copying_Worked
[04:02] <motsu> wouldnt dd fuck up and just keep copying data over and over?
[04:02] <Nothing_Much> careful with the language
[04:03] <motsu> oops my bad :|
[04:03] <x_> how do i setup dos box
[04:03] <x_> hi and ty
[04:03] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: so this is the output from sudo diff -r /home /media/home or similar?
[04:03] <sepero> motsu: try it and find out. if it can't, then it will just spit an error
[04:03] <Eric^^> x_: what exactly do you mean by dos box?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> x_ read the dos box documentation ... it points to the wiki
[04:03] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: Yeah
[04:04] <sepero> motsu: it wont loop forever
[04:04] <x_> how to setup
[04:04] <cfhowlett> x_ http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Basic_Setup_and_Installation_of_DosBox
[04:04] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: and there was only that 5 lines of output? Did it say which file?
[04:04] <Nothing_Much> oh no
[04:04] <Nothing_Much> that was the ending
[04:05] <x_> i dontknow how to mount i read everthing about it still dont get it i used  to the windows version
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> There were a TON of files
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> and such
[04:05] <sepero> Nothing_Much: the pastebin means that <X>764</X> <Y>52</Y> are in the first file. and <X>754</X>  <Y>14</Y> are in the second file
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> huh.
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> Ohh okay
[04:05] <Nothing_Much> I got it
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> I forgot that the exclude .gvfs stuff wasn't included
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> There must've been a few of them in that folder
[04:06] <Nothing_Much> But I got this now!
[04:06] <sepero> motsu: in case it isn't obvious, you'll generally want the partition unmounted, or mounted read-only before you try to make an image of it
[04:06] <motsu> sepero: well, it coppied 0 bytes.
[04:07] <motsu> i didnt have it unmounted... ill try doing that
[04:07] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: but the idea was that the copies should be virtually identical, so there should be very few (if any) diffs...
[04:07] <Eric^^> x_: what is the error you're getting?
[04:08] <Richhh> shortcut key for close tab in lxterminal?
[04:08] <Eric^^> I've never used dosbox, but i'm going over the documentation.
[04:08] <sepero> motsu: probably a good idea to be using a LiveCD or pendrive for this operation  lol
[04:08] <Eric^^> x_:  mount c ~/dos/c ?
[04:08] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: Really?
[04:08] <Nothing_Much> Well darn
[04:09] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: From the doc: "The only difference that should exist is the excluded /.gvfs directory mentioned above."
[04:09] <motsu> sepero: text login with root login wouldnt be ok?
[04:09] <sepero> motsu: it might work
[04:10] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: maybe you should pastebin the entire diff output? Unless it's huge...
[04:10] <motsu> wait... if i unmount or am root logged in, then how will i decrypt my home folder :|
[04:11] <sepero> motsu: i usually find using a live system easier, but whatever works for you. as long as home isn't mounted, or mounted read only
[04:11] <Nothing_Much> Loshki: It's HUGE
[04:12] <sepero> motsu: i don't know how you will mount or decrypt it. maybe info in fstab? i suck at lvm
[04:12] <iAmOnDrugs> Hello I am on my cell phone and mobile connection
[04:13] <sepero> both at the same time?
[04:13] <NeoGeo64> yes
[04:13] <sepero> cool!
[04:13] <iAmOnDrugs> Hey Android is Linux too!
[04:13] <sepero> CoolestLamer
[04:13] <NeoGeo64> haha
[04:14] <NeoGeo64> yes
[04:14] <iAmOnDrugs> Android is the best version of Linux that i have you ever used
[04:14] <iAmOnDrugs>  followed closely by Linux Mint 17 for the desktop
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> sorry my voice recognition is off.
[04:15] <sepero> i have you ever used too
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> haha
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> android is the best version of linux that i have ever used.
[04:15] <NeoGeo64> 300 dollars for a phone and it still cant understand what i say
[04:16] <iAmOnDrugs> Anybody remember Mandrake Linux? Hahahaha
[04:16] <sepero> i remember Xandros
[04:17] <Jeffrey_f> Android IS the better option for a mobile device, however, not with how the phone companies have the device locked down.  The original google device, which was pretty much unlocked, was much better.
[04:17] <motsu> anyone remember ubuntu? pfft. who uses that any more?
[04:17] <NeoGeo64> what about Linspire?
[04:17] <motsu> Jeffrey_f: look into the nexus 5
[04:17] <sepero> Forget Linspire, go for Lindows
[04:17] <motsu> its 2 commands to unlock the bootloader and move over an aftermarket recovery to root it.
[04:18] <cre8torx> freebsd ,mandrake ,redhat,
[04:18] <motsu> like, android + busybox is so nice :)
[04:18] <skwishy> anyone playing with the new oculus rift, dk2?
[04:18] <greshnikk> Hi. I am trying to configure my startup services. So first of all I checked 'initctl list | grep tomcat7' and got nothing. Then I used 'update-rc.d tomcat7 defaults' and got System start/stop links... already exist.' The question is:"How can I check whether service is in autostart or not?"
[04:18] <iAmOnDrugs> I am actually using straight talk
[04:19] <iAmOnDrugs>  the data is unlimited but only the first 3 gigabytes are high speed after that you are reduced to around 80 kilobits
[04:19] <sepero> Is it wrong to wish that rpm distros would just die?
[04:19] <NeoGeo64> yeah, iAmOnDrugs, and most of the time the "high speed" is just 3G around, like what, 2 megabits per second on a good day?
[04:20] <iAmOnDrugs> Haha, two megabits per second if im lucky!if I am
[04:20] <sepero> iAmOnDrugs: usa carrier?
[04:21] <motsu> sepero: all distros deserve love :)
[04:21] <iAmOnDrugs> After I am throttled, my speed test are usually around 8 kilo bytes per second download speed which translates to around 64 kilobits per second which is just slightly faster than a dial-up modem
[04:21] <iAmOnDrugs>  yes it is a USA carrier I live in Georgia, USA
[04:21] <motsu> even hanah montana os
[04:21] <Jeffrey_f> motsu: There is a project which provides fully unlocked phone and full encryption of the device as well as other privacy integrations.
[04:22] <NeoGeo64> yeah, iAmOnDrugs, you use 3GB and you are reduced to dialup speeds. to its TECHNICALLY unlimited haha
[04:22] <sepero> motsu: ok, maybe they don't die then. just be replaces  ;)
[04:22] <iAmOnDrugs> Yeah but I can use 3 gigabytes in just few days with porn and YouTube
[04:22] <sepero> iAmOnDrugs: t-mobile?
[04:22] <NeoGeo64> i know, iAmOnDrugs, i know dude. just gotta reserve some man
[04:23] <motsu> well, im just going to try and recover this one file while the partition is mounted, ignore the rules, and hope for the best :/
[04:25] <sepero> motsu: good luck
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs> I am NOT using T Mobile I am using straight talk which is a mobile virtual network operator I pay $45 a month can I get unlimited talk text and data
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs>  however the towers are not owned by straighttalk they are owned by Verizon
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs>  however the towers are not owned by straighttalk they are owned by Verizon
[04:25] <iAmOnDrugs> Sorry about duplicate message
[04:26] <yogaraj> hello guys
[04:28] <NeoGeo64> you know what i like about linux is that its better than windows 8.1
[04:28] <NeoGeo64> you just download linux, FOR FREE, install it to whatever you have laying around and it boots up fast no BS, and you just have a a fully OS for free to use
[04:28] <cre8torx> M0OKWMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNKXM
[04:28] <cre8torx> K:::cxNMN0kdolcccldOXMXOdl:::X
[04:28] <cre8torx> Wo:oKWOo:::::::::cWWxl::::::dM
[04:28] <cre8torx> MW0MOc::::::::::::0Wo::::::dWM
[04:28] <cre8torx> MMWd::::::::::::::cOWOl:::kNMM
[04:28] <cre8torx> MMd:::::::::::::::::lkKKKNWcOM
[04:28] <unopaste> cre8torx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> my mint linux 17 boots up from my usb drive in like 10 seconds
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> and its just there. its done booting. desktop.
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> ubuntu is the same way, kinda
[04:29] <NeoGeo64> i just feel like ubuntu is bloated... idk
[04:31] <cre8torx> i agree
[04:31] <thorie> hi, can someone help me with an issue i'm having?
[04:31] <genii> !details | thorie
[04:32] <thorie> when i run debuild to create my ubuntu package, it complains that some of the files don't have a source - is there a way to skip some files?
[04:33] <motsu> yeah, looks like the file is gone :(
[04:33] <cre8torx> my appologise wrong terminal
[04:33] <motsu> it managed to recover the /home/motsu/.encrypt folder, but there was nothing inside
[04:33] <mzaza> Ubuntu Dash is slow, when I start Ubuntu for the first few seconds it's slow then it runs fine. Any fix for that?
[04:36] <genii> thorie: Did you run sudo apt-get build-dep <package-neme>  ...?
[04:36] <genii> neme/name
[04:37] <thorie> genii: the package doesn't exist anywhere except on my system
[04:37] <thorie> genii: trying to create a .deb for my app just for personal use
[04:39] <thorie> but it fails during debuild -S -us -uc with an error: myapp source: source-is-missing public/js/jquery.js
[04:39] <thorie> so i guess lintian doesn't like me having jquery in there
[04:39] <thorie> but if i remove it, then my app won't work
[04:40] <genii> thorie: If this is an app you wrote from scratch, document it's prerequisites and include them as dependencies when compiling. If it's a third-party app read it's documentation for it's dependencies and then include them
[04:41] <Monona> How do I upgrade from Ubuntu Studio 12.04.4 to 14.04?  It's not showing up in Update Manager.
[04:41] <thorie> genii: i wrote it from scratch, but i don't know what you mean by "include them as dependencies" - i added the required packages to the Depends: line in the debian/control file
[04:42] <thorie> genii: i'm not having any issues with the dependencies, im having problems with lintian complaining that the "source" to some files are missing, but many of the files it's complaining about are not "compiled binaries" and there is no corresponding source
[04:42] <x__> how do i make dos box work
[04:42] <x__> i lost thankyou
[04:42] <thorie> genii: any ideas?
[04:42] <genii> thorie: Do you have those packages' -dev packages installed?
[04:42] <thorie> genii: what packages?
[04:43] <genii> ( since that's where their source is(
[04:43] <sandpiper> does anyone know of a way to truly hide a window in X no matter the DE
[04:43] <sandpiper> completely hidden
[04:43] <genii> thorie: Whatever packages you "added the required packages to the Depends: line in the debian/control file"
[04:43] <thorie> genii: there is no source for a lot of stuff that i'm packaging, for example, i have a blob of data that represents a game item in "firecracker.json" and it says "source-is-missing" for firecracker.json
[04:44] <sandpiper> im trying to find a way to preload applications like web browser so there is always an instance running in background so starting a second window is fast
[04:44] <thorie> genii: yes, im not having an issues with building the app
[04:44] <thorie> genii: the problem is not with dependencies
[04:45] <thorie> lintian is saying that a file is missing some source code, but i'm saying that this file isn't a compiled file - it's just a plain-text json blob of data that my app depends on, nothing "builds" it
[04:46] <genii> Hm
[04:50] <x_root> how to "live test" ubuntu with cinammon?
[04:50] <x_root> mint?
[04:50] <mzaza> Any ideas on the slowness of Unity lens at boot?
[04:51] <genii> x_root: Neither of those are supported in this channel
[04:51] <x_root> hm.. genii i want to test ubuntu with other gui, just tested with gnome 3.10
[04:51] <x_root> since i like unity it should be the last to test (as ubuntu 14.04)..
[04:52] <sandpiper> if you want something lightweight xfce is really nice, or really lightweight openbox is nice
[04:52] <x_root> any tip?
[04:53] <x_root> i want something useful/pretty.. unity is both (at least for me..) but in 13.10 is somewhat heavy (dunno about 14.04)
[04:53] <sandpiper> those are what i usually use x_root
[04:53] <x_root> thanks sandpiper :)
[04:53] <sandpiper> xfce is full featured
[04:53] <sandpiper> but open/flux/blackbox are like minimalist
[04:53] <sandpiper> xfce has nice transparency too
[04:54] <sandpiper> xubuntu comes with that out of the box
[04:56] <thorie> genii: nevermind, i found a flag --no-lintian
[04:57] <x_root> sandpiper, i know about xubuntu.. is "easy" to install xfce on ubuntu? maybe i give it a try after install 14.04..
[04:58] <sandpiper> yes its easy to just install xfce manually if you want
[04:58] <sandpiper> and whatever login manager you want, like gdm or lightdm
[04:58] <x_root> lightdm, just tested (again) gdm is still don't like it lol
[04:58] <sandpiper> i used to use gdm but dont like some of the recent changes heh
[04:59] <sandpiper> using lightdm right now
[04:59] <Loshki> Nothing_Much: diff can be quite chatty. grep lines containing the string "differ". There should be very few...
[04:59] <x_root> which one?
[04:59] <x_root> the latest or some else?
[04:59] <sandpiper> whatever is in 14.04 trusty
[04:59] <x_root> latest :)
[04:59] <x_root> seems really nice
[04:59] <sandpiper> yea
[05:00] <sandpiper> im just having issues if i upgrade to latest kernel 3.13.0-32
[05:00] <sandpiper> sticking with 3.13.0-30 for now
[05:00] <x_root> i'll stick with the one on 14.04
[05:01] <sandpiper> fresh install will be 3.13.0-24 but it will try to push the latest one to you too, well apt-get wont, it will say held back package, but synaptic will try to install newer kernel if you dont pin linux-generic and linux-image-generic/linux-headers-generic
[05:02] <sandpiper> its long term support release so i think the older one will still get important updates
[05:03] <x_root> probably
[05:03] <x_root> well, gonna install gnome and xfce when install ubuntu
[05:03] <x_root> any tips to not "crash" any of them?
[05:04] <sandpiper> no problems here except for that latest kernel for me
[05:05] <sandpiper> im having lots of lockups but i know my mobo is bad, need to replace some caps, im sure its that
[05:06] <x_root> how old the mobo?
[05:06] <sandpiper> 5 yrs maybe, bloated cap syndrome
[05:07] <sandpiper> this model is just bad, first one they sent me i sent back after taking one look at the board
[05:07] <sandpiper> before that i had asus, intel board now
[05:08] <sandpiper> asus just up and died after like 8 yrs, replacement mobo for old socket cpus are as expensive as when they were new, didnt wanna drop a lot of money into it
[05:10] <Solo456> What model Asus mobo?
[05:10] <sandpiper> the one that died, was p4p800
[05:11] <Solo456> and it had bad caps?
[05:11] <sandpiper> running an old p4 lol
[05:11] <sandpiper> no that was good board just died, the intel one had cap plague
[05:11] <cre8torx> hello
[05:11] <Solo456> ahhhh, ok
[05:12] <Solo456> 'cuz I'm running an old Asus I built about 14yrs ago that's still running strong.
[05:12] <sandpiper> yea the asus was good to me, i miss it
[05:12] <sandpiper> but this one has usb boot so im happy
[05:13] <Solo456> When it was built, I put an Athlon Thunderbird 1ghz in it.
[05:15] <motsu> man, im suprised electrolytic caps lasted that long....
[05:15] <motsu> like, if there was constant usage. old laptops get way hot inside.
[05:15] <Solo456> That PC runs 24/7
[05:18] <Solo456> gn
[05:18] <mulga> when logged in as root and do a pwd, as expected i  get /root. how do i copy a file to root dir though? for instance i have something in /bin/foo that  i want moved to /? ive tried rm /bin/foo /foo but can't figure it out
[05:18] <cre8torx> amd or intel ?
[05:18] <mulga> and tried /bin/foo /root/foo etc
[05:21] <mulga> actually i think i want it coped to /root and not /? does this make sense?
[05:21] <cre8torx> /bin/foo ?
[05:21] <mulga> /bin/darkcoind
[05:22] <cre8torx> try rm -r bin/foo
[05:22] <cre8torx> cd /bin rm-r foo
[05:22] <mulga> sorry mean mv,not rm
[05:23] <mulga> whoops
[05:23] <mulga> copy not del
[05:23] <cre8torx> cp
[05:23] <mulga> will try with that suggestion though
[05:23] <mulga> ahh ok
[05:24] <cre8torx> mv -f foo
[05:24] <cre8torx> mv -f foo ~ to destination
[05:25] <mulga> so something like mv -f /bin/foo /foo?
[05:25] <cre8torx> cd bin
[05:26] <cre8torx> mv -f foo ~ /where ever
[05:27] <mulga> ok. ty
[05:28] <cre8torx> used linux  before it was human
[05:28] <mulga> great all good. thanks cre8torx :)
[05:32] <cre8torx> there sure is alot of pepz here i guess just hanging around
[05:32] <cre8torx> that's cool i guess
[05:34] <cre8torx> 2 people talking out of 1505
[05:34] <cre8torx> wow hard channel
[05:36] <Beldar> cre8torx, It's not chat but support.
[05:37] <cre8torx> right i know  where so bombed with questions
[05:38] <Beldar> sometimes it is come here early morning pacific
[05:38] <bseekins> Hello can someone help me with Ubuntu server?
[05:39] <cre8torx> ask
[05:39] <Beldar> bseekins, Not without a description
[05:39] <bseekins> good point
[05:39] <bseekins> So I want to create a mine craft server on this computer of mine I'm not installing ubuntu server
[05:40] <bseekins> wow sorry autocorrect lets try this again
[05:41] <bseekins> OK so I'm installing Ubuntu Server on a desktop computer. I want to use this to host a minecraft server. I'm doing the ubuntu server install right now and in a few minutes it will ask me to install additional software such as SSH/Mail server/and what not.
[05:41] <bseekins> For a minecraft server what additional stuff should I install
[05:43] <cre8torx> so your renting a space on a server that hosting mine craft ?
[05:43] <DesignerX> hi
[05:44] <cre8torx> hello
[05:44] <bseekins> no just a server at my house for me
[05:44] <bseekins> and a few freidns
[05:44] <bseekins> friends*
[05:44] <cre8torx> k mail eh shh yeah
[05:44] <DesignerX> is there any known tool for making snapshots (like in VMware or Virtual Box)  of the "persistent file" when botting from iso
[05:45] <DesignerX> booting *
[05:45] <cre8torx> shh for sharing files
[05:45] <Beldar> DesignerX, Why?
[05:45] <DesignerX> Beldar: mostly as an experment
[05:45] <bseekins> Yeah SSH would make sense
[05:46] <DesignerX> also to create something like VM with the ability to move between snapshots without using a Virtualization tool
[05:46] <cre8torx> make a map everyone at your place could connect to u for the dlc
[05:46] <Beldar> DesignerX, You could clone the whole thing or a casper-rw partition, I can't think on any reason why you would to be honest.
[05:47] <Beldar> not sure you understand the persistent role
[05:48] <Beldar> anyway gotta take off
[05:49] <cre8torx> you could check the mail on the server if some one leaves it but why use messaging client
[05:49] <skwishy> anyone playing with the new oculus rift, dk2?
[05:49] <DesignerX> Beldar: as far as i know, its to save changes that cant be written to the ISO itself (if was loaded from a real disk). I was told the performance is nearly as good as a full install and now want to test booting an ISO from HDD with persistent settings .. it's an experiment so feel free to give advice :)
[05:52] <cre8torx> huh oculus
[05:52] <cre8torx> donkey kong 2
[05:53] <Beldar> DesignerX, Okay sure it's a waste of time with no real clear end goal, I suggest you research the persistence's role. It fills up and cannot be emptied, not quiet like a real install, and a live has limitations like no kernels upgrades...etc.
[05:53] <Beldar> safely anyway.
[05:54] <cre8torx> DesignerX i suggest find a old hd install ubuntu  and forget vmware
[05:55] <DesignerX> cre8torx: I have Kubuntu as my main OS now and VM for testing other Dist
[05:57] <Rohan_m>  Hello Friends I made a telnet to my server for port 22 and I got SSH running up there  now " the second task " is to give/ provide right Protocol ! but i'm unable to find the Protocol Format Anyone Familier with this ?
[05:57] <DesignerX> ok, ty Beldar and cre8torx
[05:58] <cre8torx> telnet 23 ssh 22
[05:59] <cre8torx> are you trying to run 2 thing over the same port
[06:02] <S0RAN-FBS> hi
[06:02] <cre8torx> hello
[06:03] <S0RAN-FBS> emm i'm new user of ubuntu and i like it
[06:04] <cre8torx> im glad
[06:04] <cre8torx> im old user before it was human
[06:05] <S0RAN-FBS>  oh  cool
[06:05] <cre8torx> soran-fbs questions
[06:06] <helmut_> hi
[06:06] <S0RAN-FBS> hello
[06:06] <cre8torx> hello
[06:07] <sgen_> How long does it take a new version of a language to get added to universe apt repos?
[06:07] <S0RAN-FBS> guys how i can install Unity 3D  program  on Ubuntu
[06:07] <S0RAN-FBS> ?
[06:08] <S0RAN-FBS> guys how i can install Unity 3D  program  on Ubuntu ?
[06:08] <somsip> S0RAN-FBS: http://unity3d.com/unity/multiplatform/desktop
[06:08] <cre8torx> lotz of gaming questions
  i'm new user with Ubuntu  and  i can speak a little english  so how i install it ? :D
[06:11] <somsip> S0RAN-FBS: that webpage says it is a work in progress. So there is no native linux executable.
[06:11] <S0RAN-FBS> oh  thank u man
[06:12] <cre8torx> it maybe worth a shot running the win version in wine
[06:13] <somsip> S0RAN-FBS: http://wiki.unity3d.com/index.php/Running_Unity_on_Linux_through_Wine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa26vR51PkQ
[06:14] <cre8torx> where you go wine
[06:15] <S0RAN-FBS> thank u  now i will try it
[06:30] <DrNotz> set  irc.server_default.autojoin #ubuntu
[06:31] <DrNotz> reconnect
[06:32] <notze> exit
[06:32] <notze> exit
[06:40] <lestrb> Hello, I am finding a USB 2.0 flash drive that will run my full Linux installation. Any suggestions? Thanks!
[06:41] <Beldar> lestrb, That is not formed as a question.
[06:43] <Beldar> lestrb, Is it the size you need advice on?
[06:44] <Beldar> lestrb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[06:45] <lestrb> No, I just need a USB 2.0 flash drive that will have an acceptable performance. I am buying a 32 GB one...
[06:46] <Beldar> lestrb, Not something covered here use the nets info.
[06:46] <Ben64> you're not going to find a flash drive with acceptable performance
[06:47] <trijntje> performance should be fine once the programs are in memory
[06:47] <lestrb> I plan to put write intensive application (ie firefox) in RAM
[06:47] <trijntje> but try to find one with the highest read/write speed you can find
[06:47] <Ben64> will take forever to boot, forever to do anything
[06:47] <Ben64> buy a external hard drive, much better performance and cheaper per gigabyte too
[06:49] <lestrb> I feel that external hard drive is bulky. At least flash drives can be put in the pocket. I also plan to have a light weight installation
[06:49] <trijntje> lestrb: use the alternate installer for ubuntu, and install lubuntu-core as desktop environment
[06:49] <Ben64> will still be mind bogglingly slow, but go for it
[06:50] <sandpiper> there are a few fast corsairs out there if you know what youre getting
[06:50] <S0RAN-FBS> h
[06:50] <sandpiper> but you have to really research them, can easily get jiffed even on ones labeled usb3
[06:51] <sandpiper> and dont get me started on the u3 nonsense typically on sandisks
[06:51] <sandpiper> usually firmware patch can remove that junk
[06:51] <sandpiper> need to run on windows tho
[06:51] <Beldar> sandpiper, its off topic anyway.
[06:52] <Beldar> so don't get started. ;)
[06:53] <sugarface> Greetings, I'm from #help on Efnet. I have a person appealing a ban saying he was banned for spamming when he wasn't doing anything.
[06:53] <somsip> sugarface: go to #ubuntu-ops
[06:53] <Ben64> sugarface: #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to have a conversation with them
[06:54] <Ben64> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[06:54] <lestrb> Alright I will research for that... Thanks
[06:56] <sandpiper> hmm seems that most things in trusty still compiled with gtk2, has anyone else been having scrollbar issues, lagging and poor response
[06:56] <sandpiper> i thought it was something with gtk3 but everything seems to still be using gtk2, not sure whats going on
[06:57] <sandpiper> not sure if its using the 'zoom scroll' thing or how to disable it
[06:59] <sandpiper> it is affecting firefox, every terminal app ive tried, and anything else in ubuntu using a scrollbar
[07:09] <Jack-zhang> any one here?
[07:09] <Beldar> nope
[07:09] <Jack-zhang> haha
[07:09] <patrick_> no
[07:11] <Jack-zhang> Why can't I use ipv6 in my school when I use wireless?
[07:12] <Ben64> how is that related to ubuntu? ask your school
[07:13] <Jack-zhang> sorry, my exprssion is unambiguous
[07:13] <Jack-zhang> when I use ubuntu
[07:16] <Ben64> Jack-zhang: let me be more specific then too. ubuntu has fully supported ipv6 for many years, any problem with that will be with the network, not ubuntu, so you'd have to get help from the school, or maybe ##networking
[07:16] <oez47> hi need help with my /dev/sda1 was a fedora lvm now is not mountable
[07:18] <Jack-zhang> when I use Ubuntu I can't connect to network use ipv6 in wireless, But all works well when I use Win7.
[07:19] <Jack-zhang> Ben64:  when I use Ubuntu I can't connect to network use ipv6 in
[07:19] <Jack-zhang> 	     wireless, But all works well when I use Win7. So
[07:19] <Jack-zhang> so I  think that I maybe some problem on my system
[07:19] <Beldar> oez47, Fedora has a channel.
[07:20] <oez47> thx now i use ubuntu
[07:21] <imasios> hey, i got some questions regarding cross-compiling some software for aarch64 on ubuntu, can you point me to the correct channel? :) thx
[07:21] <Beldar> oez47, Sure but your issue is with a fedora lvm, at the least they may have info you need.
[07:24] <sandpiper> if you are installing multiple kernels will ubuntu always configure grub to select the highest version by default? say if you update an older kernel after installing a higher version one
[07:25] <Beldar> sandpiper, Yes if the updated OS had grub control, if you have more than one linux install another may have the grub updates.
[07:25] <sandpiper> ok thx
[07:26] <vmusr> hello, does anyone might have an idea how to fix a grub boot problem
[07:26] <yz3pD> ask your question ;)
[07:26] <Beldar> vmusr, No without a description.
[07:27] <vmusr> my config is the following: 1 onboard AHCI controller (4 port) 3 ports are in raid0, the last is a single disk. A separate pci-e 4 port controller with a raid 5
[07:27] <vmusr> yz3pD: Beldar just writing it up :)
[07:28] <vmusr> i can boot fine into both raids from grub
[07:28] <vmusr> however, I can't boot into the single disk
[07:28] <vmusr> I have it mapped via device.map
[07:29] <scubacud_> test
[07:29] <vmusr> but when I go into grub (and eventually into the GRUB rescue) the hd2 that should be the single disk is missing, however from the OS it's perfectly visible via /dev/disk/by-*
[07:32] <Beldar> vmusr, I know a fair amount about grub, nothing on raid but a sudo update-grub is generally helpful.
[07:32] <Beldar> if grub 2
[07:32] <sassyts> hey
[07:33] <vmusr> Beldar: grub2, also if it's worth mentioning grub is installed on a usb stick (to get around all the issues with the 2 raid controllers)
[07:34] <sassyts> how do you register a nick?
[07:34] <Beldar> vmusr, If installed correctly would not matter if on a potato.
[07:34] <Beldar> !register | sassyts
[07:38] <vmusr> Beldar: yep it's installed correctly and working normally. However for some reason it just refuses to see the disk
[07:38] <arkas> hello
[07:38] <arkas> i need to help can you help me?
[07:39] <DJones> arkas: No need to ask, just ask your question in the channel, if somebody can help, they'll normally reply
[07:39] <Beldar> vmusr, Have you run the update? Has grub been updating with this setup, does that disc have the grub files on it?
[07:40] <arkas> ok thanks
[07:40] <vmusr> Beldar: grub updates fine, if you mean the single disk - it doesn't have grub files on it
[07:41] <arkas> i need change unity to xfce
[07:41] <arkas> its possible?
[07:41] <Beldar> vmusr, It would have to have a /boot file
[07:41] <vmusr> arkas: yes, just install it via sudo apt-get update
[07:41] <vmusr> arkas: then on the login screen you can change the session from unity to xfce
[07:42] <Beldar> arkas, Not a update but an install
[07:42] <vmusr> Beldar: the /boot partiton is on the USB stick
[07:43] <Beldar> vmusr, Than that disc is missing what the others have is my guess.
[07:43] <grantw> hey everyone
[07:44] <grantw> is anyone having issues with Octave on ubuntu 14.04, specifically using the plot functionality?
[07:44] <Beldar> vmusr, I know nothing about raid and a separate grub on a usb is not something I have done, but grub is pretty straight forward.
[07:44] <vmusr> Beldar: sadly nope. Also, GRUB should be able to find the disk no matter whether it's missing something or is Windows/MacOS or whatever. Whether it can actually boot something is another topic :D I mean GRUB is not finding the device at all...
[07:45] <Beldar> vmusr, grub is for finding the boot not just discs.
[07:45] <Beldar> vmusr, not boot info=no find
[07:46] <Beldar> no*
[07:46] <decci> I want to create a VLAN in Openstack. then in VLAN launch switch spoofing. Switch spoofing is a technique in which a VM mimic like a switch. All other switch contact that malicios VM.
[07:46] <arkas> i newie in linux world i had windows xp server and now is imposible to have security with this system, i learn linux, can you say me the steps or the good page to see the steps for to convert my desktop unity to xfce?
[07:46] <Beldar> arkas, sudo apt-get install xfce than choose it at the login
[07:47] <vmusr> arkas: just run sudo apt-get install xfce4 from terminal
[07:47] <arkas> ok thanks beldar
[07:47] <Beldar> xfce4 I think is correct
[07:48] <vmusr> Beldar: don't think so, but let's see
[07:48] <arkas> thanks vmusr
[07:48] <giorgiodinapoli> we're running ubuntu 14.04. and we use iptables log filter rule.
[07:48] <giorgiodinapoli> we tried do use a log filter with ip netns. the problem is that those, with their own namespace are never logged into kern.log
[07:48] <vmusr> I'll wipe everything and do a clean install only on the single disk
[07:48] <Beldar> vmusr, YOu don't think so what?
[07:48] <giorgiodinapoli> is this an ubuntu related problem?
[07:48] <krejsi> if I have 24 GB RAM, how big should the swap size be?
[07:49] <vmusr> krejsi: usually twice the RAM, depends what workloads you have
[07:49] <Ben64> i would not do 2x ram when ram is 24GB
[07:49] <Beldar> krejsi, twice is old school, equal if you want to hibernate, depends on what your needs otherwise.
[07:49] <Ben64> i'd say 0-2GB unless something special is needed
[07:50] <krejsi> its a server that will sniff 10gbit/s traffic all day long and write to disc
[07:51] <Ben64> krejsi: that's 1.25GB/s ... i hope you have a fast drive
[07:51] <krejsi> i think so.. I have 4x 4TB hdds RAID 1+0
[07:51] <krejsi> or RAID 10
[07:51] <Ben64> not fast enough
[07:52] <arkas> if i have cpuflag lm i can run 64bit?
[07:52] <Ben64> arkas: probably, but its easier usually to look at the cpu model
[07:52] <krejsi> Ben64: u mean rpms on the drive?
[07:53] <Ben64> krejsi: write speed
[07:53] <arkas> ok in page cpu enterprise
[07:53] <krejsi> Ben64: is there a command that can show?
[07:53] <krejsi> how much max write speed
[07:53] <Ben64> krejsi: not reliably enough
[07:55] <krejsi> ok
[07:55] <krejsi> thanks for answers
[07:55] <arkas> ok now just to ended instal xfce4, i need boot mi pc for to see the new desktop?
[07:55] <krejsi> but for 24 GB RAM I should have 24GB swap?
[07:55] <vmusr> arkas: logout and login again
[07:55] <arkas> ok thanks
[07:55] <vmusr> arkas: just pay attention to change the session
[07:56] <Ben64> krejsi: if you want to hibernate you need at least as much swap as ram
[07:56] <krejsi> no hibernation
[07:56] <giored> salve
[07:56] <arkas> ok
[07:56] <arkas> bye
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Can anyone help with installing a sdk for eclipse
[08:05] <phoenix_30> ?
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Stopping ADB server failed (code -1).
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Unable to run 'adb': Cannot run program "/media/phoenix/31CF98487DE413D9/Documents/javaPrograms/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/adb": error=13, Permission denied.
[08:05] <phoenix_30> Starting ADB server failed (code -1).
[08:06] <phoenix_30> Can any one help?
[08:06] <Beldar> phoenix_30, If someone knows they may help, no need to ask that.
[08:25] <nicelol29> Hello I was wondering if someone can talk to me about ubuntu server. See I want to make my internet faster and get more GB of speed or what ever is it possible.
[08:26] <bekks> nicelol29: then you wouls have to talk to your ISP, to get a significantly faster connection.
[08:26] <arkas> i create a usblife of ubuntu and run now with this, when i create usb i put 2gb for changes, is posible change desktop in usblive?
[08:26] <yz3pD> a ubuntu server doesnt make your internet faster
[08:28] <yz3pD> arkas: yes you can install an other desktop in live mode
[08:28] <redhat_> Anyone tell me how to download youtube video by wget command.
[08:29] <cfhowlett> redhat_ nope. not with wget.  youtube-dl maybe
[08:29] <Beldar> arkas, Be aware that the persistent file will fill up and is not cleanable, the live is basically a test object to see if you want to install, besides a installer and other tool uses.
[08:29] <redhat_> cfhowlett: How?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> !info youtube-dl
[08:30] <ObrienDave> arkas, if you INSTALL the OS to the USB, then yes, you can do what you like. it's a stand-alone OS that way
[08:31] <arkas> ok ok
[08:31] <yz3pD> arkas: persistant file is only a good idea if the usb stick has less than 4gb
[08:33] <ObrienDave> no, persistence is a good idea on ANY size live USB
[08:33] <arkas> i say this because i install xfce4 by terminal way for to change unity to xfce and reboot  for usb and dont see changes in my desktop
[08:33] <cfhowlett> arkas reboot and select xubuntu session.
[08:33] <yz3pD> arkas: you have to choose the xfce de in lightdm
[08:33] <Beldar> arkas, You never told us you were running a live.
[08:34] <redhat_> cfhowlett: youtube-dl is working perfectly fine. Thanks :)
[08:34] <cfhowlett> redhat_ happy2help
[08:34] <ObrienDave> blame Google translate LOL arkas> i create a usblife of ubuntu and run now with this, when i create usb i put 2gb for changes, is posible change desktop in usblive?
[08:34]  * cfhowlett still only understands maybe half of this
[08:35]  * ObrienDave only the other half ;P
[08:35] <Beldar> arkas, Download a xubuntu iso and use it.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu | arkas
[08:36] <Beldar> or if there is a xfce iso use it arkas
[08:36]  * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu
[08:36] <arkas> ok ok
[08:37] <yz3pD> * ObrienDave runs Xubuntu => how did you did that? /msg?
[08:37] <arkas> xubuntu is the solution , but i need endly run in server mode , xubuntu is in server mode?
[08:37] <yz3pD> arkas: special ubuntu edition: ubuntu server
[08:37] <ObrienDave> yz3pD, start with /me
[08:38]  * yz3pD used /me
[08:38] <yz3pD> thx
[08:38] <Ben64> arkas: the x in xubuntu is for xfce - a graphical interface
[08:38] <ObrienDave> welcome
[08:38] <yz3pD> arkas: server often don't have a gui!
[08:39] <k1l_> arkas: you are talking about desktops. a server usually got no desktop at all.
[08:39] <Beldar> never see a live server install
[08:39] <Beldar> seen*
[08:39] <k1l_> Beldar: yep, that too
[08:40] <ObrienDave> arkas, no, server has NO desktop environment. command line only
[08:40] <Beldar> arkas, There is no live server.
[08:40] <yz3pD> arkas: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !server | arkas
[08:40] <ObrienDave> arkas, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:41] <arkas> okok
[08:41] <arkas> no live ubuntu live and
[08:41] <arkas> then of course to copy usb iso for to install ubuntu server
[08:41] <Beldar> arkas, If you are using a translator to get all this, you would be better on your native languages channel.
[08:42] <cfhowlett> arkas ?  copy?  pretty sure you mean dd
[08:42] <Nick545353533> hello,when i turn on my pc my taskbar wont show
[08:42] <cfhowlett> arkas what languages do you speak?
[08:42] <`ajven> Hi, got problem with my eth0 card on ubuntu server, i dont know why its not running on system start. Any idea what can be wrong ?
[08:42] <arkas> spanish
[08:42] <yz3pD> entonces...
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !es | arkas
[08:42] <kz> hey guys
[08:43] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, no getting snarky ;P
[08:43] <k1l_> !es | arkas
[08:43]  * ObrienDave shoots ubottu
[08:44] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave I don't snark anymore, but I do have Samuel L. Jackson mode on standby ... for those who just cant' communicate any other way.
[08:44] <makenode> hello, do you make an ubuntu live USB for Mac systems?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> !mac | makenode
[08:44] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett needs a bigger gun ;P
[08:44] <makenode> i'll see, thanks
[08:47] <makenode> cfhowlett: in that web page, i don't find how i can to make an ubuntu live USB :\
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !usb|makenode
[08:54] <muhammet> hi
[08:56] <ObrienDave> muh2000, hi, yes? may we help you?
[08:56] <ObrienDave> muhammet, hi, yes? may we help you?
[08:57] <ObrienDave> !ask | muhammet
[08:57]  * ObrienDave is following in cfhowlett's footsteps ;P
[08:57] <Beldar> all the user said was hi
[08:58] <ObrienDave> preparing for snarkyness ;P
[09:00] <Beldar> this feels like the family at thanksgiving. ;)
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Beldar trying to encourage people to come, drop their question, answer the details.  Too many say "Hi" and then ... wiat
[09:02] <cfhowlett> wait
[09:02] <ObrienDave> this is calm compared to my family LOL
[09:03] <Beldar> not a fan of hi, but assuming it is even close to asking to ask a question is kinda cookie
[09:03] <Beldar> kookie*
[09:03] <ObrienDave> kooky
[09:04] <ObrienDave> and i represent that remark ;P
[09:05] <Beldar> I met a self ascribed grammar nazi in a master class this week, is there like a world club?
[09:05] <Beldar> ;)
[09:06]  * cfhowlett restrains urge to trigger the !ot bot
[09:06] <norman3> hello
[09:06] <Beldar> the tmi was removed
[09:06] <cfhowlett> norman3 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[09:06] <ObrienDave> not sure about a world club. cfhowlett restrain ;P
[09:06] <norman3> please,i accidentaly unistalled the ubuntu laucner
[09:06] <norman3> and the taskbar
[09:06] <norman3> via synaptic package manager
[09:07] <cfhowlett> norman3 can you get a terminal?  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should fix you
[09:07] <norman3> yes i can
[09:07] <genesis816> hau
[09:07] <genesis816> hai
[09:08] <cfhowlett> genesis816 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[09:08] <genesis816> ne 1 has idea about free radius
[09:08] <cfhowlett> !details | genesis816
[09:08]  * ObrienDave takes aim at Google translate
[09:08] <genesis816> trying to setup freeradius for home
[09:09] <norman3> should i reboot now?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> genesis816 ... aaaaaannnnnnnnnnndddddddd???
[09:09]  * ObrienDave takes aim at current US education system
[09:09] <genesis816> getting error on testing
[09:09] <cfhowlett> norman3 logout/login should be sufficient
[09:09] <ObrienDave> !details | genesis816
[09:09] <genesis816> ok wait i wl get it
[09:10] <cfhowlett> genesis816 breadcrumbs: give ALL the details!
[09:10] <Beldar> genesis816, freeradius is bsd
[09:10] <ObrienDave> no, really?
[09:10] <ObrienDave> Beldar, please excuse my snarkyness. blame cfhowlett instead :))
[09:11] <DJones> I assume they're talking about this (from the Ubuntu repo's) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=freeradius
[09:11] <mlap> hello. I am doing a dhcp server on my ubuntu computer using dnsmasq. For this I have disabled dnsmasq in networkmanager  and everything works as expected. The only problem is that i cannot make dnsmasq start at bootup. How can I debug this problem?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave SLJackson mode enabled.  say "snarky" again.
[09:11] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, ROFL
[09:12] <cfhowlett> Beldar freeradius has ubuntu binary ...
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !server | mlap might be a better place to ask
[09:13] <norman3> hey that didnt solve the problem
[09:14] <friendlyfascism> hint hint wink wink nudge nudge
[09:14] <cfhowlett> norman3 reboot
[09:14] <norman3> i installed the ubuntu desktop and rebooted
[09:14] <norman3> i rebooted
[09:14] <norman3> but still no launcher and taskbar
[09:14] <yz3pD> did you tried nomodeset?
[09:14] <friendlyfascism> norman3, This a live session?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> norman3 look in your terminal history for your deletions and then reinstall them
[09:15] <norman3> i unistalled them via synaptic
[09:15] <friendlyfascism> norman3, synaptic has a histiry
[09:15] <friendlyfascism> history*
[09:15] <k1l_> norman3: what did you uninstall exactly?
[09:15] <norman3> well
[09:16] <k1l_> if you dont know see the apt log in /var/log
[09:16] <norman3> i installed dconf editor to change my keyboard shortcut
[09:16] <norman3> and them unistalled it
[09:16] <norman3> but with it the launcher and taskbar dissapeared
[09:17] <dendemeier> morning everyone
[09:18] <ObrienDave> dendemeier, greetings and welcome
[09:19] <hikaru> greetings
[09:19] <yz3pD> norman3, so install dconf editor agaain!
[09:19] <hikaru> do u know any zeitue around here
[09:19] <hikaru> lol
[09:19] <hikaru> u install again why?
[09:19] <hikaru> @normam3
[09:19] <norman3> i installed it
[09:19] <yz3pD> and reboot?
[09:19] <norman3> i guess i have to install the os again .........
[09:20] <yz3pD> maybe
[09:20] <hikaru> ubuntu14?
[09:20] <hikaru> latest?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> hikaru, if you do, get a shot or a doctor's appointment
[09:20] <trijntje> norman3: try creating a new user, see if untiy works there
[09:20] <norman3> ..........
[09:20] <hikaru> thanks?
[09:20] <norman3> i have 2000 photos
[09:20] <norman3> .......
[09:20] <yz3pD> newest is 14.04.1
[09:20] <trijntje> if it works there you only broke your own account, if it doesnt work you broke unity
[09:20] <hikaru> i do not like doctors sadly and my sate is sort of low rank
[09:20] <k1l_> hikaru: be helpfull in here or go away. thanks
[09:20] <ObrienDave> norman3, and no backup, i assume
[09:20] <dendemeier> just a quick question, I've got to install ubuntu on all of our faculties pool pcs. We're doing this via the ubuntu netboot method. Worked well for the last releases, but i can't find the netboot files for 14.04.1. the link on wiki.ubuntu.com is dead :/
[09:20] <norman3> ok i will try that
[09:21] <hikaru> exactly uneed a back up file
[09:21] <trijntje> dendemeier: try cdimages.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <dendemeier> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[09:21] <yz3pD> norman3, or you install an other de
[09:21] <hikaru> or a store file in any case to change an os?
[09:21] <zeitue> hikaru, what about me?
[09:21] <dendemeier> yeah i did, the files should be here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04.1/
[09:21] <norman3> de?
[09:21] <dendemeier> but they're not
[09:21] <yz3pD> desktop environment
[09:21] <hikaru> lol
[09:21] <friendlyfascism> !mini | dendemeier
[09:21] <hikaru> aty
[09:21] <norman3> oh
[09:21] <hikaru> tay
[09:21] <norman3> kde?
[09:21] <hikaru> i hate fb
[09:21] <hikaru> so im using this instead
[09:21] <yz3pD> norman3, kde lxde xfce gnome ...
[09:22] <ObrienDave> norman3, different Desktop Environments
[09:22] <ObrienDave> hence, DE
[09:22] <zeitue> hikaru is Sarah?
[09:22] <cfhowlett> hikaru if and when you get back in: this is NOT a facebook substitute.  Get your fix elsewhere.  if you to get or provide ubuntu support this is the place.  otherwise ... not.
[09:22] <dendemeier> hmm, there seems to be no mini version of 14.04.1 ?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !mini
[09:23] <cfhowlett> dendemeier use the 14.04 mini for now
[09:23] <norman3> do i install the desktop environments via terminal?
[09:23] <norman3> or do i need to download the deb?
[09:23] <dendemeier> I'm just wondering, because the netboot version for 14.04.1 is linked in the wiki but the link 404s.
[09:23] <ObrienDave> dendemeier, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[09:24] <svetlana> norman3, you can from the terminal if you like
[09:24] <yz3pD> norman3, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <yz3pD> e.g.
[09:24] <norman3> will it crash my system?
[09:24] <svetlana> yz3pD, he didn't tell which one he'd like
[09:24] <svetlana> norman3, no
[09:24] <dendemeier> cfhowlett: alright, but then i'll stick with the netboot one for 14.04 because we're using it with kickstart.
[09:24] <norman3> i love gnome
[09:24] <yz3pD> svetland: he asked kde?
[09:24] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <yz3pD> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <svetlana> look here: *smack*
[09:24] <norman3> which is the best?
[09:24] <yz3pD> don't ask this
[09:24] <ObrienDave> norman3, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <cfhowlett> norman3 the one you like and use the most.
[09:25]  * svetlana eyes ObrienDave a bit closer
[09:25]  * ObrienDave prefers XFCE
[09:25] <svetlana> norman3: try a few and figure out which one tastes better ;-)
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !poll
[09:25]  * svetlana prefers gnustep, for that matter
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !best
[09:25] <norman3> ok i will
[09:25]  * yz3pD prefers LXDE
[09:25] <mkrz> !poll
[09:25] <mkrz> eh
[09:25] <svetlana> (which is also a bit windowmaker, and also a bit like free mac)
[09:25] <svetlana> hehe
[09:26] <dendemeier> ObrienDave: I dont see no 14.04.1 netboot files via torrent either :/
[09:26] <ObrienDave> dendemeier, never said they were there
[09:26] <dendemeier> okay, thought you meant that ;)
[09:27] <cfhowlett> dendemeier the differences between 14.04 and 14.04.1 mini are likely to be pretty small.  just use 14.04 and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to .1
[09:27] <trijntje> thats still a lot of updates if you have 100 PC's ;)
[09:27] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, and people were telling me dist-upgrade would not work. oh the shame
[09:28] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave eh?  dist-upgrade will bring all packages to the latest available in repos i.e. 14.04.1
[09:28] <dendemeier> cfhowlett: alright, im gonna do that. I was just looking for the 14.04.1 release because we have quite a complicated setup routine and something with the install doesn't work with our dell precision boxes. I hoped maybe whatever it was, was fixed in 14.04.1. Guess i'll have to work today and get the kickstart install fixed ;)
[09:28] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, you don't have to convince me LOL
[09:29] <ObrienDave> seeing how i had 14.04.1 2 days before the official release
[09:29] <cfhowlett> dendemeier .2 release will be in 6 months ...
[09:30] <dendemeier> alright, thank you guys.
[09:31] <dendemeier> I guess im going to find out whether apt-get upgrading 60+ PCs will slow down the uni network ;)
[09:31] <trijntje> dendemeier: run apt-cacher
[09:32] <cfhowlett> dendemeier I'm no expert, but can't you set up a local mirror for your uni and install all from in-house?
[09:32] <dendemeier> I'll have a look at it but first i gotta fix the kickstart install
[09:32] <dendemeier> We even have one ftp://stw.uni-bonn.de
[09:32] <dendemeier> well the url is somewhat like that :D
[09:33] <sh4tr> any way to reset menulibre?
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> !info menulibre
[09:34] <anuvrat> unable to install openssh-server on ubuntu 14 https://dpaste.de/8cco
[09:35] <k1l_> anuvrat: sudo apt-get install openssh-client  ## and pastebin it please
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> anuvrat  try sudo apt-get update, first
[09:36] <anuvrat> k1l_, it says openssh-client is already the newest version
[09:36] <anuvrat> MonkeyDust, did that already ... no use
[09:37] <sh4tr> i meant reset the made changes with menulibre to their default
[09:37] <anuvrat> k1l_, https://dpaste.de/FyRT
[09:38] <k1l_> anuvrat: sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:40] <hikaru> eloow
[09:40] <hikaru> tay?
[09:40] <hikaru> disconnectedme
[09:40] <k1l_> !guidelines > hikaru
[09:40] <cfhowlett> hikaru you were violating.  ask your ubuntu questions
[09:40] <k1l_> hikaru: read them and stick to them. or you will be banned
[09:41] <hikaru> oh
[09:41] <hikaru> change my name?
[09:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is there a colour picker installed by default somewhere in ubuntu?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> hikaru your name is fine.  read all the guidelines.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad not by default
[09:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, okay so downloading gimp :S
[09:42] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, no, that is an application setting, usually
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Thinkpad  maybe the background changer has a color picker
[09:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MonkeyDust, oh good idea
[09:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MonkeyDust, alas, it does have the eyedroplet tool I need
[09:43] <ObrienDave> ok, if you want to pick solid color for your desktop
[09:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am a bit surprised its not in ubuntu somewhere
[09:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> oh well;
[09:45] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, it is not a common tool
[09:45] <k1l_> Akiva-Thinkpad: what program do you want?
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Thinkpad  some apps have been left uit from the .iso, to keep it small
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> left out*
[09:45] <Akiva-Thinkpad> MonkeyDust, yah but what is the point now that ubuntu is no longer trying to fit on a cd-r?
[09:45] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, take it up with the DEVS
[09:46] <mlap> is there any way to start a service after NetworkManager service?
[09:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ^
[09:46] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: Software is just getting bigger. :)
[09:46] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: There were times an OS fitted on a floppy image. ;)
[09:46] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, oh that is just superstition.
[09:46] <ObrienDave> bekks, yea, DOS
[09:47]  * MonkeyDust remembers commodore 64 and zx spectrum in 1983
[09:47] <ObrienDave> akiml, no, fact ;P
[09:47] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ObrienDave, Sorry; customer is always right.
[09:47] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad,  no, fact ;P
[09:47] <ObrienDave> ROFLMAO
[09:47] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: Customer is wrong when customer is wrong.
[09:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, can I speak to your manager please?
[09:48] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: No.
[09:48] <ObrienDave> akiml, and you've proven you're no customer ;P
[09:48] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad,  and you've proven you're no customer ;P
[09:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ObrienDave, May I have your employee number please?
[09:48] <ObrienDave> damn, hate TAB complete LOL
[09:48] <ObrienDave> Akiva-Thinkpad, NO!!!!
[09:49] <ObrienDave> PFFFFFFFT
[09:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Can someone please forward me to customer service; I'd like to file a complaint
[09:49] <k1l_> !bug | Akiva-Thinkpad
[09:49] <Akiva-Thinkpad> lol
[09:50] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: buy a support contract at Canonical first, and then notice that we arent Canonical employees.
[09:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, I am going to take this up with Chanserv.
[09:50] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: Do it.
[09:50] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and if I have to, Linus Torvalds.
[09:50] <bekks> MEanwhile, we will return to supporting people.
[09:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm sorry, but I have to go over your head
[09:51] <dendemeier> lol
[09:51] <k1l_> ok guys, i think we are done so far. please stick to technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[09:53] <dominik> hello i installed tlp, and i read that there is some sort of gui: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter called  indicator-tlp.py . i found that script: https://github.com/silverjam/Sysmods/blob/master/scripts/indicator-TLP.py but i do not know how to use it. Do someone can help me?
[10:00] <dominik> hello i installed tlp, and i read that there is some sort of gui: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter called  indicator-tlp.py . i found that script: https://github.com/silverjam/Sysmods/blob/master/scripts/indicator-TLP.py but i do not know how to use it. Do someone can help me?
[10:00] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !patience
[10:01] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dominik, do someone can help me? Is english your native language? There are alternative support channels for different languages if you need them.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> dominik ask the script writer for help = they are the experts
[10:03] <dominik> akiva: no english is not my native language.  but irc in polish do not exist.
[10:03] <cfhowlett> !pl
[10:03] <cfhowlett> dominik false ^^^
[10:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie
[10:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :)
[10:04] <dominik> oh damn.. sorry:) i did not know:)
[10:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dominik, No need to apologize. We want to help you the best we can ~
[10:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Good luck
[10:05] <sandpiper> oh hey Akiva-Thinkpad
[10:05] <dominik> Thank u:)
[10:06] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sandpiper, o/
[10:11] <bunbury> morning all
[10:12] <Snowsun> morning
[10:12] <Akiva-Thinkpad> morning
[10:15] <hikaru> what app do u use for boosting mobile broadband that works for usb flash drive sim card isp
[10:15] <hikaru> i need more help on how to boost my speed
[10:15] <bekks> ask your isp for a faster connection.
[10:16] <bunbury> lol
[10:17] <sh4tr> get an external addon antenae
[10:17] <bunbury> those wireless isp have lower speed the more people nearby that on it
[10:17] <hikaru> i have dish
[10:17] <hikaru> a radr except its cgnal tv
[10:18] <bunbury> doesnt satellite have high latency ?
[10:18] <bekks> bunbury: yes.
[10:19] <hikaru> cant access it ask pin code
[10:19] <bunbury> so u need to move to suburbs and get wired service
[10:19] <hikaru> i cant either
[10:19] <hikaru> move
[10:19] <hikaru> i cant move either
[10:19] <TJ-> bunbury: Depends if the transceivers are in LEO - most aren't and therefore suffer low latency
[10:20] <bunbury> ok
[10:20] <hikaru> im a full time mom slash home programmer
[10:20] <hikaru> i plan to make apps at home
[10:20] <TJ-> hikaru: is your problem with a cellular USB modem dongle and its speed?
[10:20] <hikaru> yes
[10:21] <bunbury> isnt the speed ok for programming - googling and downloading frameworks ?
[10:21] <hikaru> acnt download very well
[10:21] <TJ-> hikaru: If it asks for a PIN code that is most likely the PIN code for the SIM card, assuming it is a GSM cellular modem
[10:21] <bunbury> ok
[10:21] <hikaru> i just need to upgrade new ver of ubuntu but i cant with  not enough juice
[10:21] <hikaru> yes
[10:22] <cfhowlett> hikaru yes you can.  torrent the ISO, make a usb, clean install.
[10:22] <hikaru> but its different that radar is only for connected in tv
[10:22] <bunbury> yep torrents are good
[10:22] <hikaru> i cant hack into
[10:22] <hikaru> it i have to jumble pin in order to access inernet form a different service
[10:22] <bunbury> do the torrent
[10:22] <hikaru> its a different service that i am not registered
[10:23] <bekks> hikaru: if it is a tv statellite dish - thats expected. what does it have to do with your usb modem?
[10:23] <hikaru> my grandpa only registered cgnal service for cable HD channels
[10:23] <hikaru> exactly any
[10:23] <hikaru> ideas how to upgrade the usb other that wi f i cant afford
[10:24] <hikaru> wifi are pospaid plans
[10:24] <sassyts> sup
[10:24] <bekks> Ask your USB modem ISP for a faster connection.
[10:24] <sassyts> need helps with staying connected to vpn while using issir
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> hikaru  sounds like a local problem to me, not really related to ubuntu
[10:24] <hikaru> vpn idk any server
[10:24] <hikaru> know any?
[10:25] <sassyts> cant stay in vpn while on issir so annoying >.<
[10:25] <hikaru> my os isnt the problem
[10:25] <k1l_> hikaru: please stick to technical ubuntu issues in here. for other chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <hikaru> isp does
[10:25] <hikaru> ahh ok
[10:25] <hikaru> sorry
[10:26] <sassyts> does vpn have to connect to a vpn type server for it to work/
[10:27] <TJ-> hikaru: Most cellular modems are limited by the radio signal they receive. If it isn't already receiving the typical bandwidth the ISP offers then adding an external antenna, positioned higher and with fewer/no obstacles between it and the cellular transmitter tower, are the only ways to improve connectivity
[10:27] <TJ-> sassyts: Yes, a Virtual Private Network needs 2 endpoints
[10:33] <arun_> hi guys !!! is there any way to install the Ubuntu distro in PC-Tablet
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !touch | arun_
[10:33] <arun_> cfhowlett: is there any other ??
[10:33] <arun_> way
[10:34] <k1l_> arun_: is this pc-tablet an arm device? do you talk about a regular desktop or the ubuntu touch?
[10:34] <arun_> k1l_: regular pc-tablet in which we can install windows 7 too
[10:34] <k1l_> arun_: which one exactly?
[10:35] <arun_> k1l_: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/s526x296/10534094_807587975947403_4597570483604191032_n.jpg
[10:35] <arun_> k1l_: I wanted to know what that thing really is
[10:35] <k1l_> arun_: its a nexus 7 device with the ubuntu desktop running. but that is not a "windows 7 pc-tablet"
[10:36] <arun_> k1l_: yeah its not !!! , but I thought it would be easy to get the gist thing up
[10:37] <cfhowlett> arun_ facts matter when trouble shooting ...
[10:37] <k1l_> arun_: the tablet area is a lot different. you cant just grab a device and put ubuntu on it. it depends on that special device if its possible or not.
[10:37] <arun_> so, we use x86 for hat nexus 7 ?
[10:38] <k1l_> arun_: no no no no
[10:38] <k1l_> its ARM!
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !touch|arun_ no.  ubuntu touch
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> !arm
[10:38] <k1l_> arun_: see that article where that image is from: http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/27/ubuntu-nexus-7-installer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fengadget+%28Engadget%29
[10:39] <k1l_> arun_: 99% of the tablets run with ARM. and there we have missing drivers and locked bootloaders. so its not as easy as to put a ubuntu cd into a pc and give it a go.
[10:40] <arun_> k1l_: ok , got u !!!
[10:42] <dominik> how can i install catalyst drivers in ubuntu 14.04 for radeon 8750 in lenovo g510?
[10:43] <arun_> k1l_: dude, where can I get Cannonical's Installer for nexus 7 ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !touch
[10:44] <yz3pD> dominik: additional/proprietary driver
[10:46] <Thacib> bye
[10:51] <krejsi> is there some log I can check after an automated installation to see what happened during install?
[10:56] <k1l_> arun_: see the ARM wiki pages from ubuntu. more info in #ubuntu-arm
[11:04] <arun_> k1l_: ok sure
[11:07] <yz3pD> does anybody know how to make openjdk-java use the gtk theme?
[11:07] <yz3pD> i already modified the /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk/jre/lib/swing.properties
[11:11] <S0RAN-FBS> Hi
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> yz3pD  are you a developer?
[11:11] <yz3pD> not really
[11:11] <S0RAN-FBS> Hiiiiiii
[11:11] <yz3pD> i know that i can set the look an feel in java
[11:12] <yz3pD> but i want to make minecraft launcher use gtk theme
[11:12] <S0RAN-FBS> who can tell me how i can install programs usually
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> S0RAN-FBS  use synaptic, or sudo apt-get install, or the software manager
[11:13] <yz3pD> S0RAN-FBS: ubuntu software center, it's like an app store
[11:13] <k1l_> +1 softwarecenter
[11:13] <S0RAN-FBS> but lots of programs not free
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> S0RAN-FBS  true, you have to pay for some
[11:14] <S0RAN-FBS> in software center
[11:14] <k1l_> S0RAN-FBS: some devs want to have a reward. but that depends on the program
[11:14] <krejsi> is there some log I can check after an automated installation to see what happened during install?
[11:14] <S0RAN-FBS> ahh i am in Northeren Iraq  and we dont have credite card service  or  i cant make mony and use it on  net
[11:17] <cfhowlett> S0RAN-FBS use the free programs until you find a way to buy programs
[11:17] <S0RAN-FBS> thnak
[11:17] <S0RAN-FBS> thank
[11:19] <hackerz> good day, i have a problem where reaver is not displaying rssi  as 0s and wash displays very few ap
[11:20] <BlackDalek> why is my USB thumb drive telling me "destination is read only". I just formatted it to FAT32.
[11:20] <hackerz> actually i meant reaver is 0s
[11:20] <bekks> hackerz: Can you rephrase that sentence please?
[11:22] <hackerz> thank you, wash yields very little ap results when airodump displays multitude and reaver rssi displays only 00
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> hackerz  are you sure you're in the right channel?
[11:22] <hackerz> not sure
[11:23] <k1l_> hackerz: we dont support wifi hacking in here. please stop to ask for that
[11:24] <hackerz> oh sorry eh is what i do for security
[11:24] <shambat> does ufw have an implicit deny that does not show up when doing a "ufw status verbose"?
[11:24] <k1l_> if you do it for security you will gratefully read yourselv into the documentations.
[11:25] <hackerz> i have
[11:25] <hackerz> anyway thank you
[11:27] <TJ-> shambat: it'll depend on the default policy for each direction. Does "status verbose" help at all?
[11:28] <shambat> TJ-: I'm trying to find out if certain traffic is blocked in the firewall, but I dont see any deny-rules in status verbose that would block it
[11:29] <TJ-> shambat: how about with "sudo iptables-save" - maybe some manual rule is in there?
[11:30] <shambat> TJ-: will taht make changes or just print the rules?
[11:30] <TJ-> shambat: It's the tool we use to save the rules at shutdown for reloading at start-up... it writes all rules to stdout unless redirected to a file
[11:31] <shambat> TJ-: that definately gives more details
[11:33] <TJ-> shambat: I use "iptables-save" in preference to "iptables -nvL" since it lists *all* tables with complete rules (not pretty-printed)
[11:33] <shambat> TJ-: now I just need to understand the rukes :)
[11:33] <shambat> rules*
[11:34] <TJ-> shambat: Well, the first thing to examine are the policies for INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT ... then work on down for each user-defined table
[11:34] <shambat> TJ-: its says INPUT DROP, and FORWARD DROP
[11:34] <Elijah4> hello
[11:34] <shambat> guessing those are the default then
[11:35] <TJ-> shambat: If no policy is DENYing, then look at individual rules... if nothing there... check ordering of rules in tables... a REJECT before an ACCEPT can often catch you out
[11:35] <Elijah4> its 55-60 celsius a good temperature for a laptop?ty
[11:35] <bazhang> try ##hardware Elijah4
[11:35] <TJ-> shambat: OK, so all INPUT or FORWARD packets are DROPped unless there's a rule to allow them
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> Elijah4  in a terminal, type this to know the critical temperature     watch -n 1 -d sensors
[11:39] <simpleuser> Hi. A program cannot connect to my 4444 localhost port.
[11:39] <simpleuser> Is there a way to check which one is using it?
[11:39] <simpleuser> Or what is blocking it?
[11:39] <k1l_> simpleuser: netstat -tulpen
[11:40] <k1l_> will show you if something is already listening on that port
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> simpleuser  or lsof | grep localhost
[11:40] <simpleuser> Ok, nothing on this port… Thanks :)
[11:41] <TJ-> simpleuser:  is the "program" on the same PC, and not a virtual machine?
[11:42] <simpleuser> TJ-: Same pc.
[11:42] <simpleuser> It is selenium.
[11:42] <simpleuser> https://gist.github.com/Einenlum/f1f18df65021d182623b
[11:43] <murr4y> running "apt-get update && apt-get install openssl" on my aws ec2 13.10 machine installs 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.6, but that is not the newest version - what am i missing?
[11:44] <ssarah> Guys, what is this ubuntu web browser thingie that opens my links on irc?
[11:44] <TJ-> simpleuser: The error is because there is nothing listening on port 4444. It looks as if the hub isn't running, or is configured on a different port
[11:44] <simpleuser> Oh ok TJ-
[11:48] <simpleuser> TJ-: was not running… ^^
[11:48] <TJ-> simpleuser: That'd do it :)
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> ssarah  "web browser thingie"?
[11:51] <Eldunar> Hello there, i just installed catalyst drivers and i received that bugsplat : http://pastebin.com/f1M7SthJ . Can u help me?
[11:52] <ssarah> yeh, instead of firefox, it opens a Ubuntu Web Browser
[11:54] <FilipNortic> most irc clients would use the default browser
[11:54] <ssarah> konversation, thats what im using, on xubuntu-desktop installed on ubuntu
[11:54] <k1l_> ssarah: that is the gnome web browser. just make firefox or whatever you use, that standard browser
[11:55] <ssarah> that's a setting inside my irc client, right?
[11:55] <FilipNortic> no ideé how konversttion works...
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> ssarah  no, set your default web browser in the ubuntu settings
[11:56] <ssarah> oh, everything else is opening firefox
[11:56] <ssarah> but tell me where those are anyway
[11:57] <Eldunar> Hello there, i just installed catalyst drivers and i received that bugsplat : http://pastebin.com/f1M7SthJ . Can u help me?
[12:02] <FilipNortic> ssarah: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-network/konversation/webbrowser.html, should be similar in xubuntu no ideé why someone would preprogram default browser though
[12:07] <elvishboy> hi folks, when I run this command: "find ./VA\ -\ NRJ\ Music\ Awards\ 2011\ (2010)\ -\ Pop\ [www.torrentazos.com] -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sha1sum > /checksums_backup.md5" I get this error: "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('"  how can I run this command on folders that have characters like "(" in their names?
[12:08] <ssarah> oh wow bro, that was really nice of you. I was just asking the way to set the default ubuntu web browser and you went to find out how to do it in convesration. <3
[12:08] <k1l_> elvishboy: escape them too with a \
[12:08] <ssarah> *konversation
[12:08] <ssarah> it works, ty
[12:09] <elvishboy> yeap it is working now, thanks
[12:09] <elvishboy> k1l_: thank you
[12:09] <elvishboy> awesome
[12:41] <samurai-it> help me
[12:42] <samurai-it> ktorrent
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> samurai-it  what about it?
[12:44] <Magentium> Good Morning Ubuntu Users :)
[12:44] <knob> samurai-it, yes, you have spelled it correctly.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Magentium  other timezone
[12:45] <yz3pD> we don't know what your problem is but maybe you can use transmission in place of ktorrent
[12:46] <samurai-it> ktorrent is the most popular file sharing but the torrent not strart
[12:46] <samurai-it> start*because
[12:46] <trijntje> !it
[12:46] <yz3pD> it could take some minutes before the down starts
[12:47] <cfhowlett> samurai-it if there are no seeds available = no start.  Wait at least 15 minutes
[12:47] <samurai-it> thank you
[12:48] <k1l_> samurai-it: and the program beeing popular doesnt mean that the files are popular, too
[12:50] <cfhowlett> samurai-it in other words: no seeds, no torrent.
[12:52] <samurai-it> i installa kubuntu desktop
[12:52] <samurai-it> install
[12:52] <samurai-it> sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop?
[12:52] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop samurai-it
[12:53] <k1l_> !it | samurai-it
[12:53] <samurai-it> thank you
[12:53] <samurai-it> i speak englesh vary well please
[12:55] <samurai-it> i instal kubuntu desktop but install programs but graphic interface none because
[12:56] <trijntje> samurai-it: you don't speak English very well, I cant understand what you are saying. Where are you from, maybe people can help you better in your own language
[12:57] <panmictic_> he's from Italy
[12:57] <samurai-it> i speak English very well
[12:57] <panmictic_> or at least his IP is
[12:57] <high_fiver>  /whois samurai-it
[12:57] <samurai-it> italian channel non help me
[12:58] <samurai-it> not
[12:59] <panmictic_> well first of all you have to use sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[13:00] <panmictic_> I mean don't use that
[13:00] <panmictic_> us
[13:00] <panmictic_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:00] <panmictic_> so try to do that samurai-it and see if it works
[13:01] <samurai-it> who help me whit use ktorrent?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> samurai-it  what do you expect it to do?
[13:03] <samurai-it> help to configure ktorrent
[13:03] <bekks> samurai-it: So ask a specific question please.
[13:03] <FilipNortic> samurai-it: or try the manual
[13:04] <samurai-it> hi install ktorrent but the torrent not start
[13:04] <bekks> samurai-it: "the torrent"?
[13:04] <bekks> samurai-it: Did you start ktorrent?
[13:05] <samurai-it> i start ktorrent but the torrent not strart
[13:05] <bekks> samurai-it: What is "the torrent"?
[13:05] <bekks> samurai-it: Please describe what exactly you are doing.
[13:05] <samurai-it> the last samurai avi
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> samurai-it  maybe it is not available, it has to come from somewhere, someone who "seeds" it
[13:06] <infinmed> Hello!
[13:06] <samurai-it> thank you
[13:06] <samurai-it> hello
[13:07] <FilipNortic> samurai-it: try another torrent a really popular one to see if you can download that instead
[13:07] <FilipNortic> if it works the issue is with the torrent itself and not with ktorrent
[13:08] <DJones> samurai-it: Try downloading one of the Ubuntu torrents listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads (about 1/3rd of the way down the page)
[13:08] <jeffreylevesque> I updated my Ubuntu 11.04 to Ubuntu 14.04.  I couldn't install ffmpeg as the system suggested me to install avconv
[13:08] <jeffreylevesque> could someone assist me with the equivalent code in 'avconv' - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/357
[13:08] <cfhowlett> jeffreylevesque libav-tools is the package name
[13:08] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: yep, avconv is the new ffmpeg
[13:08] <DJones> samurai-it: If that works then its not your problem, you'd need to contact the original torrent provider
[13:11] <ResupineEarth> Hello
[13:13] <ResupineEarth> Does anyone know anything about how backups are setup in ubuntu
[13:13] <bekks> !backup | ResupineEarth
[13:13] <k1l_> ResupineEarth: dejadup is the standard now
[13:13] <canaima> no te conosco  podriamos ser amigos por chat
[13:13] <ResupineEarth> many thanks
[13:14] <high_fiver> !help
[13:15] <k1l_> !es | canaima
[13:16] <ResupineEarth> Hello i just was wondering if that includes how to restore your backup if for example you should have a hard disk failure
[13:16] <rb07> hi
[13:17] <high_fiver> !cloning | ResupineE
[13:18] <canaima> bueno voy a salir por que la tendre que apagar
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> !es
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> i keep finding that everyone uses ffmpeg - https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=libav+convert+wav+to+16+bit+mono+16+kHz
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> why did ubuntu switch to libav?
[13:18] <Pici> jeffreylevesque: because debian switched to libav.
[13:18] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: because debian did.
[13:18] <jeffreylevesque> gotcha, thanks
[13:19] <krejsi> Hi, I need help with autoinstallation of ubuntu 14.04. Im musing this preseed script http://pastebin.com/LrL2QNub . The installation is getting answers from this script but its not automating the stuff that it should be after the reboot. Can you see spot anything wrong with this?
[13:19] <Elijah4> hello,does enyone know a program that can erase a dvd so i will be able to burn ubuntu into it?ty
[13:21] <krejsi> Im using usb-stick with remastered os with my preseed file in it. I point at it with this at boot "preseed/file=/cdrom/preseed/seed.seed"
[13:23] <xangua> elijah: stores sells rewritable dvd's
[13:24] <vini> hi, i have an error executing virtualbox, something about missing kernel driver
[13:24] <vini> any solutions?
[13:25] <akaul>  I am trying to mount an qcow2 image using #qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 image.qcow2 it fails with the message ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write. it's a FreeBSD image which I am trying to mount on Ubuntu
[13:25] <grobe0ba> vini, verify you have virtualbox-dkms installed
[13:25] <grobe0ba> and or reinstall all of virtualbox
[13:25] <vini> yes i have that package installed
[13:26] <grobe0ba> akaul, mount with -oro
[13:26] <grobe0ba> or w/e the qemu-nbd equivalent is
[13:26] <pds> how do i wget a file to a certain folder
[13:26] <grobe0ba> akaul, qemu-ndb -r -c /dev/nbd0 image.qcow2 will put it read only
[13:27] <grobe0ba> pds, read the man page
[13:29] <akaul> mount -oro /dev/nbd0p1 /disk1
[13:29] <akaul> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/nbd0p1,
[13:29] <akaul> when I do a tail
[13:30] <akaul>  >>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old
[13:30] <akaul> [1731086.441800] ufs_read_super: bad magic number
[13:30] <wheezy123> hello, anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[13:30] <muxdemux> how do i turn off the firewall or open a port in ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[13:30] <grobe0ba> akaul, use -r
[13:30] <grobe0ba> i told you that two lines down. i was speaking of the regular mount command
[13:30] <akaul> aah while mounting with qemu-nbd
[13:31] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, unless you set up a firewall on your own, there shouldn't be any closed ports
[13:31] <grobe0ba> iptables default rules is ALLOW
[13:31] <muxdemux> im running it in a vagrant VM
[13:31] <wheezy123> hello?
[13:32] <muxdemux> https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6 <— my vagrant file, netstat from inside the VM, nmap scan of the VM from the host machine.
[13:32] <muxdemux> I didn’t set up a firewall
[13:33] <grobe0ba> i don't see what you're problem is
[13:33] <grobe0ba> ssh is running on .37, just like it should be
[13:34] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: I’m running a webserver on port 8000
[13:34] <wheezy123> anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[13:34] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, it's not running then
[13:34] <grobe0ba> or at least, not listening on the right interface
[13:34] <muxdemux> but i can’t access it from the host VM, even though the VM has an IP of <IP_ADDRESS>, and I can ssh to it
[13:34] <akaul> thanks grobe0ba, mount: block device /dev/nbd0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[13:34] <akaul> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/nbd0p1,
[13:34] <akaul> and in dmesg it says !ufs_read_super: bad magic number
[13:35] <grobe0ba> akaul, at this point, you'll have to look at mounting ufs slices on linux
[13:35] <grobe0ba> i never have
[13:35] <GTFr0> I'm having alot of problems using serial after upgrading to 14.04 from 12.04.  In 12.04 I would use cu to connect to serial console on various network devices and it would work fine.  With 14.04, I can connect, but I cannot actually type anything into the serial console.  Has something changed between 12.04 and 14.04 related to serial?
[13:35] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, it's not a firewall issue
[13:35] <akaul> ok thankx.. grobe0ba
[13:35] <grobe0ba> are you able to access the httpd from inside the vm, e.g. elinks?
[13:35] <grobe0ba> akaul, np
[13:36] <optrusty> Hello
[13:36] <GTFr0> (and I've tried onboard serial, an add-on serial card and two different USB-Serial adapters)
[13:36] <txdv> are you using the programm called cu?
[13:36] <GTFr0> txdv:  yes
[13:36] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, just saw that netstat you posted
[13:36] <TJ-> GTFr0: have you tried alternatives, such as screen?
[13:37] <grobe0ba> the service is obviously not listening, e.g., is not running
[13:37] <grobe0ba> check your configuration
[13:37] <GTFr0> TJ-: I tried minicom and that did the same thing as cu
[13:37] <grobe0ba> TJ-, that might be okay for troubleshooting, but cu is the defacto standard of serial port comms
[13:37] <TJ-> grobe0ba: my point exactly
[13:38] <GTFr0> the odd part is that 12.04 works fine with cu
[13:38] <GTFr0> on the same machine, using the same serial ports
[13:38] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: i just added curl logs https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6
[13:39] <TJ-> GTFr0: Are you able to test with the older 12.04 kernel on 14.04 userspace? I'm wondering if a tty discipline is at fault
[13:39] <muxdemux> the service is reachable from inside the VM via <IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[13:39] <wheezy123> anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[13:39] <muxdemux> but not from the host via <IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[13:39] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, it's possible that w/e vagrant box you used is firewalled by default
[13:40] <grobe0ba> in the vm, sudo iptables -S
[13:40] <grobe0ba> and pastebin it
[13:40] <GTFr0> TJ-: I haven't tried that, are there packages in the 14.04 repos that would allow me to downgrade kernels, or would I have to compile my own?
[13:40] <akaul> mount -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/nbd0p1 /disk1/ this was the command I was able to mount..
[13:40] <TJ-> GTFr0: also, have you tried "--debug all" ?
[13:41] <TJ-> GTFr0: With you saying it was an upgrade, I was assuming at least one of the 12.04 kernels would remain
[13:41] <txdv> GTFr0: if you want to know you either contact the dude who packaged cu, or the dude who wrote cu
[13:41] <Nick545353533> is unity tweak tool good for customizing ubuntu?
[13:41] <txdv> best course is to download both sources for 12.04 and 14.04 and make a diff on them
[13:41] <Nick545353533> or is it a better one that exists out there?
[13:41] <k1l> Nick545353533: yes
[13:41] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6#file-vm_iptables-log
[13:41] <Nick545353533> do you have it k1l?
[13:41] <txdv> if there is no difference then ubuntu messedu p
[13:42] <k1l> Nick545353533: that is the official unity settings tool
[13:42] <grobe0ba> txdv, it's not the problem of the guy who wrote it
[13:42] <xangua> Nick545353533: it's good to configure it, maybe you are referring to something more with"customize"
[13:42] <grobe0ba> it works fine on several other OSes, in it's latest incarnation
[13:42] <GTFr0> TJ-: I would have to check, but I might have done a clean reinstall on this machine
[13:42] <txdv> grobe0ba: as alwayus it is the problem of the user
[13:42] <Nick545353533> well xangua i mean to make my desktop look better effects icons that kind of stuff:)
[13:43] <GTFr0> (I've had the LTS -> LTS upgrade completely break the OS in the past)
[13:43]  * muxdemux goes to read about iptables
[13:43] <grobe0ba> txdv, the user or the packager
[13:43] <TJ-> GTFr0: OK ... another question: are the ports true ttyS or ttyUSB or ttyM or something else?
[13:43] <xangua> Nick545353533: what kind of stuff is"better effect icons"?
[13:43] <grobe0ba> i'm simply saying the it isn't that of the person who wrote it IN THIS CASE
[13:43] <txdv> I never upgrade, only fresh installs
[13:43] <GTFr0> TJ-: I've tried both ttyS and ttyUSB
[13:43] <grobe0ba> since it works on a variety of other platforms without fail
[13:43] <txdv> too much hassle when smoething goes bad
[13:43] <GTFr0> like I said in the original post
[13:44] <GTFr0> I tried onboard serial, an add-on serial card and multiple USB adapters (Prolific and FTDI)
[13:44] <Nick545353533> oh i meant to make my desktop look better and to have another effects
[13:44] <TJ-> GTFr0: I may have missed your original post... I was busy elsewhere :)
[13:44] <Nick545353533> like when you open and close something to make a sound etc
[13:44] <Nick545353533> 3d effects etc
[13:44] <TJ-> GTFr0: OK, if you can test against screen and it suffers the same way that'd point to a kernel issue
[13:44] <GTFr0> TJ-: OK, let me try that
[13:44] <xangua> Nick545353533: to configure compiz effects you use the compiz settings manager
[13:45] <TJ-> GTFr0: also, a long-shot, but have you tried using "sudo cu ..." ?
[13:45] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, so, iptables is set up correctly, allow all
[13:45] <GTFr0> TJ-: running cu as root errors out
[13:45] <GTFr0> says the line is in use
[13:45] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, post another netstat
[13:45] <grobe0ba> run it again
[13:45] <GTFr0> (not sure why, I thought that was really weird)
[13:45] <GTFr0> and my user is a part of the dialout group, so permissions should be OK
[13:46] <vini> need some help with virtualbox
[13:46] <GTFr0> brb, gonna reboot into ubuntu
[13:46] <TJ-> GTFr0: that is weird
[13:48] <muxdemux> grobe0ba: https://gist.github.com/garrettwilkin/e3eadbd6a78c44a044c6#file-vm_netstat-log shows that port 8000 is being listened to in the VM
[13:48] <muxdemux> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:8000          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      1980/python
[13:48] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, yeah it does NOW
[13:49] <grobe0ba> the first netstat you posted it doesn't
[13:49] <grobe0ba> have you tried from the host lately?
[13:49] <muxdemux> yea, i had changed teh port
[13:49] <grobe0ba> i don't know what the problem is then
[13:49] <grobe0ba> iptables is fine
[13:49] <muxdemux> weird
[13:49] <muxdemux> maybe its a virtual box thing?
[13:49] <grobe0ba> i'm assuming it's using virtualbox's host adapter set up thingy which should work
[13:49] <muxdemux> this is vagrant, administering virtualbox
[13:50] <grobe0ba> presumably it's a virtual box thing
[13:50] <grobe0ba> vagrant is just a fancy front end
[13:50] <muxdemux> right
[13:50] <TJ-> muxdemux: The process is listening on localhost not <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:50] <grobe0ba> TJ-, crap, how did i not see that....
[13:50] <muxdemux> ooooo TJ-
[13:50] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, yeah
[13:50] <vini> i have some problems running virtualbox because of kernel drivers, any solutions please?
[13:50] <grobe0ba> quit listening to localhost only :P
[13:50] <muxdemux> where did you see it?
[13:50] <TJ-> grobe0ba: blind spots... the bane of our lives!
[13:50] <grobe0ba> muxdemux, in the netstat
[13:51] <grobe0ba> TJ-, indeed
 tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:8000          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      1980/python
[13:51] <muxdemux> should be <IP_ADDRESS>:8000 instead?
[13:51] <grobe0ba> ^
[13:51] <grobe0ba> yes
[13:51] <muxdemux> interesting...
[13:51] <grobe0ba> your config file for httpd is wrong
[13:51] <grobe0ba> it's listening only to localhost
[13:51] <grobe0ba> it needs to listen to all addresses
[13:51] <TJ-> muxdemux: That, or at least a route-able IP of one if the VM's interfaces
[13:52] <muxdemux> uh hmmm this is a python webserver, specifically django. would httpd still come into play?
[13:52]  * muxdemux doesnt know what httpd
[13:52]  * muxdemux thinks that its apache
[13:52]  * muxdemux thinks maybe he has to configure django properly
[13:53] <grobe0ba> yes
[13:53] <grobe0ba> it usually helps to configure things
[13:53] <Pici> muxdemux: if you are running django from manage.py, it only listens on <IP_ADDRESS> by default.
[13:53] <muxdemux> Pici: I am!
[13:53] <muxdemux> do you know how to change that?
[13:54] <CustardPie> Ubuntu 14.04: I've just been configuring apache2 and /var/www to be more secure, /var/www is "drw-r--r-- 2 www-data www-data". Though now I am trying to upload files to that folder via SFTP and I can't because on write access (logging in as an admin user). How do I set permissions in such a way that I'm able to upload files?
[13:54] <muxdemux> I’m a django noob
[13:54] <grobe0ba> CustardPie, make sure the user you're using is in the same group as the directory
[13:54] <grobe0ba> and set 664 instead of 644
[13:54] <grobe0ba> e.g., group rw, not just r
[13:54] <Pici> muxdemux: uh.. manage.py runserver <IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[13:55] <muxdemux> nice
[13:56] <CustardPie> grobe0ba: Great point, I'll add that user to the group and test it out
[13:56] <grobe0ba> CustardPie, you have to set group=+rw as well
[13:56] <grobe0ba> otherwise that will have no effect
[13:57] <GTFr0> TJ-: I just tried screen, and it seems to work fine.  must be a problem with cu?
[13:59] <grobe0ba> GTFr0, probably. contact the package maintainer
[13:59] <grobe0ba> not the author of cu
[14:00] <muxdemux> wooo hoooo!!!!  http://i.imgur.com/TCX1Tbc.png  TJ- grobe0ba Pici  You
[14:00] <muxdemux> You’re the best guise!
[14:00] <Pici> muxdemux: :)
[14:00] <grobe0ba> yah, we are tits
[14:02] <TJ-> GTFr0: what kind of devices are on the ends of the serial links? Could it be a baud-rate/parity/stop-bit issue? Have you tried explicitly setting them? If you are explicitly setting them, have you tried allowing it to use defaults?
[14:03] <TJ-> GTFr0: I could test it here against a similar device, if you can show me the command-line you are using
[14:04] <TJ-> GTFr0: unfortunately though most of my serial consoles are via a network access server
[14:04] <GTFr0> TJ-: I've specifically seen happening when connecting to a Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite and two different Aruba Instant access points (IAP-93, IAP-105)
[14:05] <GTFr0> I've also seen this happen with HP Procurve switches
[14:05] <GTFr0> as well
[14:06] <GTFr0> TJ-: the command line I was using is pretty simple
[14:06] <GTFr0> TJ-: cu -l /dev/ttyS4 -s 9600
[14:06] <GTFr0> (if the device requires 9600 speed)
[14:06] <TJ-> GTFr0: I'll try it here, hang on
[14:08] <CustardPie> grobe0ba: I added the my user to the www-data group (the user/group created by apache), using "getent group www-data", and it only shows "www-data:x:33:myuser". When trying to upload files, it states "open for write: permission denied" when trying to upload, running ls -l on /var/www/html shows: "drw-rw-r-- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 27 14:17 html"... any ideas?
[14:10] <grobe0ba> are you attempting to overwrite files that are already there?
[14:10] <CustardPie> Nah, it's completely empty
[14:10] <CustardPie> New server set up
[14:11] <grobe0ba> hmm
[14:11] <grobe0ba> try 775 vice 644
[14:11] <grobe0ba> it shouldn't matter, but i've seen some weirdness like that
[14:12] <TJ-> GTFr0: Same issue here
[14:13] <CustardPie> grobe0ba: It worked after doing "chmod -R 775 /var/www". Is this a security concern?
[14:13] <k_sze> There seems to be a problem with the Lubuntu torrent.
[14:13] <grobe0ba> not that i can see
[14:14] <k_sze> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[14:15] <GTFr0> TJ-: (I hate to say this but)... good... I thought I was crazy because it didn't work
[14:15] <TJ-> GTFr0: I've got a serial port analyser on it, and there's no transmit, instead it resets the line
[14:15] <k_sze> As soon as I add it in Transmission, it tells me "Tracker returned error: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker."
[14:16] <DJones> k_sze: Just trying it myself, just doesn't seem to be connecting to any peers
[14:17] <TJ-> GTFr0: haha: try adding "--nostop" :)
[14:17] <KomaZ> hi all
[14:17] <KomaZ> there are some problem with the repository ?
[14:17] <KomaZ> http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/multiverse/source/Sources
[14:18] <k_sze> DJones: I seem to be getting peers through DHT.
[14:18] <k_sze> It's the http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 tracker that rejects the torrent.
[14:19] <DJones> k_sze: Try http://torrent.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/ That lists a 14.04.1 torrent, maybe the 14.04 torrent has been removed now that the .1 release has been made
[14:19] <hesco> Looking at /etc/debian_version says jessie/testing.  But I need a way of introspecting the system to learn I am working with trusty before I am able to install puppet and facter.  How can I do that please?
[14:19] <yz3pD> i downloaded a file with transmission from ubuntu (14.04.1) and it worked fine
[14:19] <Pici> hesco: look at /etc/issue and/or lsb_release
[14:20] <k_sze> DJones: ah, that's probably why
[14:20] <k_sze> DJones: the wiki and the lubuntu website still list the old torrents though.
[14:20] <DJones> k_sze: Possibly still in the process of being updated
[14:21] <k_sze> What is it about the 14.04.1 update?
[14:21] <DJones> k_sze: Its an updated iso with all the individual updates since the original 14.04 release included
[14:27] <TJ-> GTFr0: here may be the problem, revealed by strace: "ioctl(3, TIOCSCTTY, 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)"  fd 3 is the tty port, fd 0 is stdin, TIOCSCTTY is to set the controlling terminal
[14:27] <GTFr0> TJ-: so would that be a bug with cu?
[14:28] <TJ-> GTFr0: investigating... looks like permissions
[14:28] <gian> !list
[14:30] <TJ-> GTFr0: "sudo adduser uucp dialout" :)
[14:31] <GTFr0> seriously?
[14:31] <GTFr0> the uucp user isn't in the dialout group?
[14:32] <TJ-> GTFr0: hmmm, that helped, but wasn't enough ... this is intriguing
[14:34] <hyde> Why am I not seeing a desktop upgrade to 14.04.1 (from 12.04.4)? I thought it's out already and upgradeable.
[14:34] <hyde> IOW, is the problem in my system, or is it just not available yet?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> hyde sudo apt do-release-upgrade -p
[14:35] <Noiro> what's the name of the settings manager in ubuntu. I'm controlling my comp from afar but since I have the unity action bar hidden, I can't get to anything as my mouse movements don't pick up
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Noiro: grep Exec /usr/share/applications/*.desktop | grep -i settings
[14:35] <cfhowlett> hyde it's available but for some reason, the .1 release doesn't trigger upgrade offer.  could be a bug or something still being processed
[14:36] <hyde> cfhowlett: thanks, but is that command right?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> hyde run that command it watch your terminal
[14:36] <hyde> ah, extra "apt@ there
[14:37] <Noiro> I see landscape-client-settings and /usr/share/applications/onboard-settings.desktop:Exec=onboard-settings
[14:37] <hyde> sudo do-release-upgrade -p # this started doing the upgrade, thanks!
[14:38] <cfhowlett> hyde happy2help
[14:38] <ceed^> I am going to install Ubuntu on a laptop exactly the same as the one I have. It's going to have the same configuration. Can I simply copy /etc/apt over after install and run an update/upgrade without problems?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> hyde: Precise is LTS too you know, supported til April 2017....
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> hyde: imho, if precise ain't broke, don't fix it
[14:38] <raivis> hi to all, can i install flash player to mozilla or chromium? me lubuntu 11.04
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ceed^: you will want the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> raivis: Natty is EOL and no longer supported in any way
[14:39] <cfhowlett> ceed^ great question!  If the hardware match is exact and the programs / apps are the same - yes
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !natty | naraivis
[14:39] <hyde> ActionParsnip: well, I use this as a desktop machine, and it's nice to have fresh software... why wait longer than .1 release?
[14:40] <Noiro> i just need to get the unity bar to stop auto-hiding
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> raivis: I'd suggest you remove Natty and do a clean install of Trusty which is LTS and supported til April 2019
[14:40] <raivis> kto govorit po russki? ja nichevo ne ponimaju
[14:40] <hyde> ActionParsnip: this particular install actually started with 9.04 :)
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !ru|raivis
[14:40] <jeffreylevesque> anyone use some kind of 'Grub Customizer'?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: what do you wnat to achieve with Grub?
[14:41] <hyde> vi (or nano or whatever) and gimp, what more do you need?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> raivis  it works but you cannot install or upgrade anything, because the repos (sources) are no longer available
[14:41] <cfhowlett> raivis and you have no security updates ...
[14:41] <FapFlop|Work> Did <IP_ADDRESS> just go down?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> FapFlop|Work: replying ok here
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> FapFlop|Work  ping it to find out
[14:41] <poobutt> Noiro got to system settings - appearance - behavior can adjust there usually
[14:42] <FapFlop|Work> No response for me. Weird.
[14:42] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: Windows 7 is on my original partition.  Ubuntu Server 14.04 is on my second partition.  I want it to default to windows 7, and some of entries at startup are duplicated within the GRUB bootloader
[14:42] <raivis> then than not to install?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: you dont need a customizer fr that, you need 2 commands
[14:42] <cfhowlett> raivis install 14.04
[14:42] <raivis> cfhowlett- lubuntu?
[14:43] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I was looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[14:43] <Noiro> poobutt, I couldn't get to systme settings since I couldn't get to the gui stuff
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | raivis lubuntu would work.
[14:44] <ceed^> cfhowlett, thanks. I will try and see if it works. I need to find a way to copy the keys also.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the number in the filename dictates the order, so if you put the windows one as a lower number than the Linux ones, it will be top
[14:44] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I installed GRUB on the master boot record.  Will I be able to do as you suggested? And, could you explain the reason of the moving the file?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: making Windows default
[14:44] <poobutt> Noiro: sorry but what do you mean no gui?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the location of Grub is moot, the config will update it as needed
[14:45] <cfhowlett> ceed^ I think you can backup/copy your keys then import/restore in the new machine
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: just like you don't concern yourself when new kernels install, do you ?
[14:45] <Noiro> nvm, I figured it out. For future reference: gsettings set org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/ launcher-hide-mode 0
[14:45] <Noiro>    will unhide the unity bar command-line
[14:45] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: no, not really.  But, what are those files we are moving?
[14:46] <poobutt> Noiro: ok cool
[14:46] <ceed^> cfhowlett, okay thanks. Looks like 'sudo apt-key exportall > ~/Repo.keys' works. Then I can just import them again on the new machine
[14:46] <raivis> tak i do not understand can be to install it or not? answer with a yes or no. otherwise do not understand, do not speak English by, translated by translators
[14:46] <cfhowlett> ceed^ nice
[14:47] <cfhowlett> raivis what language do you speak
[14:47] <cfhowlett> raivis yes lubuntu 14.04
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> raivis  install lubuntu 14.04
[14:48] <yz3pD> lubuntu 14.04.1
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: they dictate the order in grub, when you run update-grub they are read and used to make the /etc/grub/grub.cfg
[14:51] <raivis> i am speak russian
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[14:51] <cfhowlett> raivis lubuntu 14.04 da
[14:51] <vigneshfelix> hi
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: its why Grub2 is great compared to Grub
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the config in those files will affect all kernels in te future too, dead handy
[14:52] <raivis> cfhowlett na lubuntu 11.04. ne kak?
[14:53] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: i trust your knowledge.  I'm trying to understand `sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober`
[14:53] <cfhowlett> raivis lubuntu 14.04 nyet
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  don't confuse the guy, now he thinks you're russian
[14:54] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust Black Russian maybe ...
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> raivis  type /join # #ubuntu-ru
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> raivis  type /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:58] <ntrnx64> hi allllll
[14:58] <skwishy> anyone playing with the new oculus rift yet, dk2?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> skwishy  what if someone is?
[14:58] <Pici> skwishy: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> !ot|skwishy off-topic
[14:59] <cfhowlett> ntrnx64 greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[15:00] <raivis> a na terminal ne kak ne vozmozna??
[15:00] <skwishy> I just can't get the head tracker to work
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: 09 is less than 30
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: the linux ones appear first as they are numbered 10
[15:00] <skwishy> also wonder if/how to make my desktop split in two seperate mirror images, left and right
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: so by changing it to 09 it appears above the linux ones
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: its a simple concept
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !away > Ilyes512|Away
[15:01] <cfhowlett> skwishy this is NOT an ubuntu issue.  no occulus support here.  look elsewhere.
[15:01] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: sounds simple.  Is it possible to have two or more entries with the same number?  Would that be ok?
[15:01] <skwishy> Is there a way to use something like xrandr to make a desktop mirror, on the same monitor?
[15:02] <cfhowlett> skwishy nevermind my last.  sorry.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> skwishy never seen what your suggesting done.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: i believe so and it will go to alphebetical order, best to just re-jig them to not have the same number
[15:02] <yz3pD> is there a difference between update-grub and update-grub2 ?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> yz3pD there is.  use the command matching your grub version
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: things in Linux are simple. Its the old Linux mantra "do one thing and do it well"
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: you can then string things together and magic starts to happen
[15:05] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I took note of this conversation because it was useful.  Also, is there a reason by at startup there are duplicated entries in GRUB - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/373
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: do you have a recovery partition on the drive?
[15:06] <skwishy> ActionParsnip: are you sure that mantra is a linux thing?  maybe unix, but hardly seems to in linux
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> skwishy: still applies ;)
[15:06] <yz3pD> cfhowlett: i have grub2 and always used update-grub and never had a problem, but it's better to use update-grub2 ?
[15:07] <skwishy> yeah, I like that quip, but linux is hardly a good example... haha, look at the sound system!
[15:07] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I suppose so.  I simply installed windows 7, then created extra partition space for ubuntu
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: yeah I always use update-grub. Is it a symlink?
[15:07] <jeffreylevesque> I didn't choose for a recovery environment
[15:07] <cfhowlett> yz3pD run a terminal: man update-grub2
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: I'd boot both Windows' see what happens. Not sure there as I dont dual boot. No need for Windows here
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: or in duckduckgo:  !man update-grub2
[15:08] <EleanorEllis> I need to get my scanner (Mustek 1200 UB Plus) working on Ubuntu 14.04. I followed the howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154429. I downloaded the sbfw.usb backend driver into /usr/share/sane/gt68xx and I edited /etc/sane.d/gt68xx.conf, removing the # from #override "mustek-scanexpress-1200-ub-plus". However, when I start xsane I still get "No devices available". Trouble is I only do this every four years when I go from
[15:08] <yz3pD> cfhowlett: ok so i will use update-grub in future
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: update-grub2 is a stub for running update-grub which itself is a stub for running grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to generate a grub2 config file
[15:09] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I saved a file onto the desktop in the first Windows 7 selection, then restarted the machine, and booted into the second.  The file I saved on the first, exists on the desktop of the second windows machine
[15:10] <basketmaker> yo
[15:11] <yz3pD> ActionParsnip: lol 3 cmds for 1 thing
[15:14] <indn1234> hey all
[15:15] <f0x> Hi.
[15:15] <indn1234> do the system requirements differ between 12.04 LTS and 14.04 LTS?
[15:15] <cfhowlett> indn1234 not significantly
[15:17] <indn1234> cfhowlett: I couldn't find detailed min spec requirement differences anywhere on the net. Please tell me which one is more demanding and by how much?
[15:17] <cfhowlett> indn1234 I'm unaware of any difference between them
[15:18] <k1l> !requirements
[15:18] <kubblai> !flavor
[15:19] <cfhowlett> k1l and that wiki needs an update ... ubuntu netbook edition?
[15:19] <indn1234> k1l: that's nice but I want the requirements for 12.04 LTS.
[15:21] <k1l> indn1234: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#System_Requirements
[15:21] <indn1234> I am running on a 1.2 core2duo PC with 1GB RAM and only a little HDD to spare.
[15:21] <indn1234> 1.2GHz
[15:21] <TJ-> GTFr0: Are you still about - I've solved it :)
[15:22] <cfhowlett> indn1234 lubuntu or xubuntu.  note: lubuntu is optimized for lower specification hardware
[15:22] <k1l> indn1234: that is not a rocket. i would suggest to try Lubuntu since that is more lightweight
[15:22] <GTFr0> TJ-: I'm still here
[15:22] <TJ-> GTFr0: "echo -e "port TCP\ntype tcp\n" | sudo tee -a /etc/uucp/port"
[15:23] <indn1234> cfhowlett: I've seen that I get an acceptable performance if I just use the LXDE environment over an Ubuntu.
[15:23] <indn1234> So now I'm just fretting over the version of LTS ubuntu to install.
[15:23] <indn1234> k1l: ^
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> yz3pD: 3 commands for what?
[15:24] <k1l> indn1234: lubuntu 14.04 is fine
[15:24] <wheezy123> hello, anyone knows how to add a "Open with" for folders in Nautilus?
[15:24] <yz3pD> ActionParsnip:3 commands to update the grub file
[15:24] <GTFr0> TJ-: what exactly does that do?
[15:25] <indn1234> k1l: thanks for the link. It seems the new LTS uses 128MB more RAM.
[15:25] <indn1234> Also, can I downgrade from 12.10 to 12.04 LTS without reinstalling the system afresh?
[15:25] <TJ-> GTFr0: adds in a missing configuration file that the uucp binary package installs, which controls how the shared internals configure themselves
[15:25] <k1l> indn1234: no downgrade
[15:25] <cfhowlett> indn1234 nope.  you'd have to install 12.04
[15:26] <k1l> indn1234: just give 14.04 Lubuntu a try
[15:26] <hesco> Thanks Pici: I am using lsb_release -c in my script now.  Still debugging, but that piece is fixed.  Still need to sort out how to do this on a centos box so I don't have to maintain two versions of my script.
[15:26] <indn1234> aah dang. Seems like I'll just upgrade to the new LTS.
[15:26] <GTFr0> TJ-: should that be reported anywhere so that it gets fixed in a future version of 14.04?
[15:26] <k1l> you can still stop/rmeove services that use to much memory if you dont need them
[15:26] <Pici> hesco: lsb_release -c provides proper output here on rhel, so you may be in luck.
[15:27] <wheezy123> hello?
[15:27] <indn1234> k1l: I read somewhere that there isn't much difference between performance of a(ubuntu with LXDE desktop) and b(complete Lubuntu). Is this correct?
[15:28] <indn1234> I'm currently running LXDE on a ubuntu 12.10 and it's doing fine, more or less.
[15:28] <k1l> indn1234: an ubuntu uses the gnome/nautilus base in background. a lxde will still use that. a lubuntu-desktop will bring the whole lubuntu package
[15:28] <indn1234> k1l: aah I see, I should read more about it now. Thanks for all the help.
[15:28] <TJ-> GTFr0: It's an old bug, originating in Debian, from at least 2005... it is tracked in Ubuntu too, I'm investigating
[15:29] <Beldar> indn1234, Except that 12.10 is end of life and has no support here.
[15:29] <cfhowlett> indn1234 from 12.04: sudo apt do-release-upgrade will get 14.04.1, the sudo apt-get install lxde  (desktop environment only) or lubuntu-desktop (full meal deal)
[15:30] <Beldar> indn1234, I missed that you were informed in this my mistake.
[15:32] <indn1234> cfhowlett: thanks, gotta go. Will probe you later :p
[15:38] <Kaco>  Afternoon
[15:38] <compdoc> morning