[00:03] <peterrivassss> what is this
[00:04] <peterrivassss> who am i
[00:04] <k1l_> peterrivassss: this is the ubuntu support irc channel
[00:06] <Ripmind> Hi. can anyone help me? I have launched startx with chromium-browser but it is only half-sized: http://styler2go.de/screenshots/capture.png
[00:07] <Ripmind> i am kinda crying over that problem already :(
[00:07] <k1l_> Ripmind: you dont want to run a desktop and window manager etc?
[00:07] <Ripmind> i just want to have chromium-browser in fullscreen
[00:08] <Ripmind> i do not need mouse/keyboard/any input or other window
[00:08] <Seveas> Ripmind: try starting it with --noerrdialogs --kiosk --window-size=1920,1080 --window-position=0,0 (adjust the arguments to --window-size to what you need)
[00:09] <Ripmind> must have overseen the window size :/
[00:09] <Ripmind> i try that
[00:09] <OerHeks> alt + middle mouse = resize
[00:09] <k1l_> this seems helpfull. it mentions display resolution in the first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/487488/how-to-open-chromium-in-full-screen-kiosk-mode-in-minimal-windows-manager-enviro
[00:10] <locksmith2> good afternoon
[00:10] <Ripmind> THAT WORKED, thanks so much Seveas
[00:10] <Ripmind> i wonder why --start-fullscreen is not doing fullscreeen
[00:10] <Ripmind> feels liek a bug to me
[00:11] <TenLeftFingers> Are there any file managers in existence today that allow you to set a background image?
[00:11] <Seveas> Ripmind: because it has trouble detecting resolution without window manager
[00:11] <Seveas> Ripmind: I have a fleet of raspberry pi-based wallboards that run chrome this way :)
[00:12] <k1l_> Ripmind: yeah, i guess it wants to demand fullscreen from the windowmanager which is not there at all.
[00:13] <Ripmind> ah
[00:13] <Ripmind> Can you also help me settign up audio? :o
[00:13] <Seveas> nope. My wallboards don't do audio :)
[00:13] <Ripmind> damn! :D
[00:14] <Ripmind> well, worht a try :P
[00:14] <Ripmind> ...o.O sound works instantly... i guess ubuntu > debian :D
[00:26] <perks> trying to build a kernel the debian/ubuntu way… having trouble figuring out where exactly are my build targets?
[00:27] <perks> trying to pass ‘binary-generic’ says it cant find the make target
[00:27] <perks> there are a bunch od debian.<something> folders i dont know what they do as well
[00:28] <Seveas> perks: just do dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, or debuild -S and pbuilder build ../.....dsc
[00:29] <perks> for dpkg-buildpackage can i add the flag that compiles with debug synbols>
[00:30] <Seveas> not in the dpkg-buildpackage call, you'll need to fix that in either debian/rules or the kernel config
[00:33] <perks> yeah im grepping for the ‘skipdbg’ flag, should i change it everywhere it appears?
[00:33] <perks> its currently in 3 make files in debian/rules.d/
[00:33] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! How can I check to see what motherboard slot a video card is plugged into?
[00:34] <k1l_> i guess you dont mean opening the case and looking at it :)
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> yep! I wouldn't know the name of what I'm looking at
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> I have this board: http://us.msi.com/product/mb/870AG46.html#hero-specification
[00:34] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: identify the model -> age will tell whether it's anything other than PCI-Express
[00:35] <daftykins> one of the two blue slots then most likely, highly unlikely to be any other
[00:35] <econdudeawesome> I'm still a bit clueless when it comes to hardware, want to make sure I get a compatible video card
[00:35] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: real question - why does it matter?
[00:35] <econdudeawesome> daftykins: looking to upgrade the video card
[00:35] <daftykins> ah you'd be better off in ##hardware then, you want a PCI-Express card.
[00:35] <daftykins> which is everything sold today
[00:36] <econdudeawesome> I figured it was common. Still, no linux command to look it up directly? My google-fu failed me on that
[00:36] <econdudeawesome> but I'll check in ##hardware
[00:36] <daftykins> "lspci" -> identify what's in there already
[00:37] <k1l_> check "lshw"
[00:37] <k1l_> lspci with -vvv could tell something too
[00:38] <perks> for debian kernels, where can i find the list of ‘flavors’?
[00:38] <daftykins> perks: that'd be a #debian question
[00:38] <econdudeawesome> http://pastebin.com/3CdY77vs what am I looking for?
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> PCI bridge?
[00:39] <daftykins> no
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> ah, nm
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
[00:39] <daftykins> that's the one
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> That'll do :) thanks so much!
[00:39] <daftykins> so that's most certainly a PCI-Express card
[00:40] <Technobliterator> anyone know the console command needed to install NetBeans?
[00:40] <econdudeawesome> More of a ##hardware question, but any gotchas I should look out for re: nvidia cards? Usually I've had luck with drivers
[00:40] <Technobliterator> (the Java software)
[00:40] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: not really no, just consider your PSU rating before spending the earth :)
[00:41] <econdudeawesome> PSU...?
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> (hey, I really am clueless with hardware!)
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> ah, power supply
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> I remember now
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> good point
[00:42] <daftykins> yep, power connector types for graphics cards + wattage rating + 12V rail amps
[00:43] <paule32> hello
[00:43] <bprompt> allo
[00:43] <paule32> i need help in squid3 and mysql
[00:43] <econdudeawesome> Think I remember 500W or 1kW, guess I should figure that out :D
[00:43] <daftykins> paule32: think i saw you earlier, #ubuntu-server and ##networking may be more relevant
[00:43] <bprompt> paule32:   tried #squid yet?  there are quite a few folks there
[00:43] <paule32> there is nobody
[00:44] <daftykins> you have to be patient - and also not ask on a Friday night when everyone's out ;)
[00:44] <bprompt> well, it's Saturday in Australia and some parts of china =)
[00:44] <Seveas> daftykins: or glued to their tv/internet watching the paris disaster...
[00:45] <daftykins> that too
[00:45] <paule32> peng
[00:45] <daftykins> bprompt: shh :P
[00:45] <Seveas> bprompt: it's actually saturday in all of africa, asia and europe already :)
[00:45] <Seveas> just the americans are behind as usual :)
[00:45] <bprompt> Seveas:    well, true, but they're sleeping over there I'd think =)
[00:46] <Seveas> bprompt: I'm not :)
[00:46] <bprompt> Seveas:  rats!
[00:51] <wxl> has anyone had the very strange situation of having two separate partitions pointing at the same mount point?! i somehow seem to have both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc1 on /!
[00:51] <icewalker> hi, installed winetricks on ubuntu 14.04x64, but when i started up winetricks , i get "wineserver not found" any ideas?
[00:52] <k1l_> wxl: well, the last one mounted will be overlayed over the first one.
[00:52] <k1l_> wxl: check your fstab for that or for typos
[00:52] <wxl> k1l_: no, i mean they're BOTH mounted accounting to `mount`.
[00:52] <popey> they will both show up in mount
[00:52] <wxl> k1l_: i don't even regularly have an sdc.
[00:52] <reisio> icewalker: how're you starting it?
[00:52] <k1l_> wxl: think of them stapled now. the last one mounted is the one you see now.
[00:53] <popey> wxl, show us the out put of "mount" and "dmesg | grep sd"
[00:53] <wxl> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13253938/
[00:54] <icewalker> i just run "winetricks vcrun2008"
[00:54] <popey> wxl, i see no sda at the end
[00:54] <popey> so probably sda dropped off the bus and was re-detected as sdc
[00:55] <wxl> popey: uptime is like 120odd days or something
[00:55] <popey> wxl, what does "sudo fdisk -l" show?
[00:55] <popey> wxl, and ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[00:56] <emanuel> hey guys
[00:57] <daftykins> hi
[00:57] <wxl> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254009/
[00:58] <emanuel> i have a question that someone maybe can help me with
[00:58] <wxl> popey: as an explanation, sda should be the default root. sdb is a secondary drive. sdc is an attached usb drive which i can easily make disappear from the fdisk output by just unplugging.
[00:58] <popey> wxl, so you just have one mounted over the other
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !ask | emanuel
[00:59] <popey> wxl, maybe your /etc/fstab is at fault, what does that contain?
[00:59] <wxl> popey: but if i remove the usb drive, sdc goes away.
[00:59] <popey> wxl, of course it does :)
[00:59] <wxl> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254060/
[00:59] <emanuel> im trying to install gnome builder on 15.10 with gnome 3.18 but im getting stuck at the autogen stage
[01:00] <wxl> popey: oh, but removing the usb drive does not remove the mount point. long story short, i just want to mount the damn usb drive XD
[01:00] <wxl> !language | wxl
[01:00] <wxl> sorry :)
[01:00] <emanuel> my errors are as follows
[01:00] <popey> wxl, so plug it in, and "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/foo"?
[01:00] <emanuel> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.17.8
[01:00] <emanuel>                              gio-2.0 >= 2.45.8
[01:00] <emanuel>                              gtksourceview-3.0 >= 3.17.7
[01:00] <emanuel>                              libgit2-glib-1.0 >= 0.23.4
[01:00] <emanuel>                              libpeas-1.0 >= 1.14.1) were not met:
[01:00] <daftykins> emanuel: please don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <zykotick9> popey: wxl i'd suggest against using /media/foo for manual mounting, but YMMV.
[01:01] <popey> zykotick9, it really doesn't matter.
[01:02] <wxl> popey: says it's already open.
[01:02] <popey> and "foo" is an example
[01:02] <icewalker> reisio: any suggestions
[01:02] <emanuel> guys im sorry
[01:02] <wxl> …because it's open on /!
[01:02]  * wxl pulls his hair out
[01:02] <reisio> icewalker: winetricks vcrun2008 says no wine server found?
[01:02] <reisio> icewalker: try running 'winecfg' first
[01:02] <popey> wxl, what if you unplug it, do you see it still mounted (I mean,really you should unmount before unplug)
[01:02] <wxl> popey: yes.
[01:03] <emanuel> its saying it cant find gtk 3
[01:03] <popey> wxl, fix that then
[01:03] <popey> wxl, unmount it
[01:03] <icewalker> that or "winetricks" returns wineserver not found
[01:03] <wxl> popey: the only way to unmount / is to not have it be busy. but for that to be true, i'd have to reboot :)
[01:03] <popey> wxl, no
[01:03] <popey> wxl, sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[01:03] <wxl> popey: no workie
[01:04] <popey> your machine is confused, :)
[01:04] <icewalker> don't have winecfg command
[01:04] <wxl> popey: umount: /: device is busy.
[01:04] <emanuel> it says it cant find gio-2.0
[01:04] <icewalker> beside installing winestricks, do i also install to install wine?
[01:05] <daftykins> icewalker: "dpkg -l | grep wine | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:06] <emanuel> im really lost here hopefully somebody can help
[01:06] <wxl> popey: naturally the practical thing here is to reboot but this is odd behavior i don't like, so naturally i want to figure out a more sustainable long term solution. that may be asking too much :)
[01:06] <wxl> emanuel: can you provide a pastebin?
[01:06] <popey> wxl, set a proper mount point in fstab for your usb drive and reboot it
[01:07] <wxl> yeah, sigh.
[01:07] <wxl> thanks for trying :)
[01:07] <icewalker> http://termin.com/4p8f
[01:07] <daftykins> icewalker: yeah i think it needs wine itself
[01:08] <emanuel> im pasting right now
[01:09] <icewalker> i tried to install wine, but i end with unmet dependencies problem and can not (won't) install wine1.6
[01:09] <emanuel> ok pasted wxl
[01:09] <wxl> emanuel: link?
[01:09] <daftykins> we're not that great at guessing the unique paste ID :)
[01:10] <daftykins> icewalker: hmm no idea then, not used it myself - maybe the #winehq folks know if there isn't an answer online
[01:10] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! Video-card guy back. Is it possible to tell how Ubuntu is utilizing my video card, or is that a dumb question? I have nvidia drivers being used (I believe the most current ones), but if, say, I'm playing a game (civ5) and things slow down, is it possible to figure out where the bottleneck is?
[01:10] <TJ-> wxl: does "cat /proc/mounts" report the same as "mount" (which can report stale stuff due to mtab) ?
[01:10] <econdudeawesome> (or even worse -- cities and skylines)
[01:10] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:11] <emanuel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254272/
[01:11] <econdudeawesome> Holy geez that's a lot of good info. http://termbin.com/w5yi
[01:12] <econdudeawesome> I think I'm in love with nc termbin.com now
[01:12] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: +1
[01:12] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: yep right now you're booting with nomodeset which is ruining the nvidia driver, lets see which you have installed too...
[01:12] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:12] <pyios> what is ubuntu trusty?
[01:13] <reisio> pyios: an annoying codename for a specific ubuntu version
[01:13] <daftykins> actually i spoke too soon, it's using it just fine despite having nomodeset 0o
[01:13] <daftykins> pyios: 14.04
[01:13] <emanuel> 14.10 is trusty
[01:13] <econdudeawesome> http://termbin.com/dmyp
[01:13] <emanuel> yea 14.04 sorry
[01:13] <wxl> TJ-: no, it is different. the /dev/sdc stuff isn't included at all.
[01:14] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: and "cat /etc/issue" ?
[01:14] <daftykins> that one can be pasted here
[01:15] <econdudeawesome> *kicks the dust on the ground shyly* I'm on debian...
[01:15] <econdudeawesome> Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
[01:15] <daftykins> whoops
[01:16] <reisio> econdudeawesome: heh
[01:16] <daftykins> those packages are pretty messy for the nvidia drivers though, i'd not think that is normal for even them
[01:16] <wxl> TJ-: that being said, is there any way to get mount to refresh its information?
[01:16] <pyios> what is this version Linux ubuntu 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <reisio> pyios: hrmm?
[01:16] <pyios> and Linux vagrant-base-trusty-amd64 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu
[01:16] <k1l_> pyios: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[01:16] <daftykins> pyios: that's an outdated 14.04 install
[01:16] <TJ-> wxl: mount uses mtab as a source. see 'man umount' for avoiding its use
[01:17] <emanuel> my thing is wxl this is a gnome 3.18 app that i can not for the life of me install
[01:18] <zykotick9> wxl: "mount -a" might be helpful?
[01:18] <TJ-> wxl: did /dev/sdc1 contain a clone of the file-system in /dev/sda1? I was wondering if they're got identical labels/UUIDs, which could cause the dual mount to happen
[01:18] <wxl> TJ-: nope
[01:19] <emanuel> ive never been whipped by any install like this
[01:19] <plytro> pyios: is that first output from uname -a?
[01:19] <wxl> zykotick9: nope
[01:19] <pyios> yeah
[01:19] <plytro> that doesn't tell you anything about the version of ubuntu you are on
[01:19] <plytro> neccesarily
[01:19] <plytro> it can give clues
 pyios: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[01:20] <TJ-> wxl: you can always just replace /etc/mtab with /proc/mounts
[01:20] <plytro> its trusty
[01:20] <pyios> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[01:20] <plytro> trusty is still current ubuntu
[01:20] <TJ-> wxl: but you need to figure out *why* /dev/sdc1 gets mounted over the root file-system
[01:20] <wxl> emanuel: i meant EVERYTHING. what commands are you trying to use, for example?
[01:20] <plytro> until what, April 2019 or something like that
[01:20] <plytro> 5 years on LTS versions
[01:20] <emanuel> ok sorry man
[01:21] <plytro> so you're on a current release, just maybe not fully apt-get upgraded
[01:22] <k1l_> pyios: plytro no matter that kernel is outdated.
[01:22] <daftykins> pyios: also the mention of vagrant suggests this system has been script installed/deployed - so done for you somehow
[01:22] <econdudeawesome> daftykins: despite my debian-ness on this rig, I appreciate the help!
[01:22] <plytro> k1l_: whats the current highest kernel in trusty?
[01:22] <k1l_> plytro: pyios http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-lts-vivid/linux-lts-vivid_3.19.0-33.38~14.04.1/changelog  that is the actual version
[01:22] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: np :) i'd purge all the nvidia and start again but i don't know how things work in debian land
[01:22] <plytro> k1l_: that is a vivid kernel not trusty
[01:23] <plytro> ah nvm
[01:23] <k1l_> plytro: no. its from the 3.19 vivid backports kernel for 14.04
[01:23] <plytro> missed the 14.04 in the name
[01:24] <emanuel> well i go su,then i cd my gnome builder folder,the rest i just pasted wxl
[01:24] <wxl> emanuel: what command led to the rest coming up? clearly not just cd ing :)
[01:25] <emanuel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254434/
[01:25] <emanuel> you can see it all there thanks for helping man
[01:25] <wxl> ah yes i see, you're compiling
[01:26] <wxl> now you come to understand why package managers are so common in the linux world
[01:26] <wxl> because lots of folks hate compiling
[01:26] <wxl> because one of the biggest issues with compiling is tracking down dependencies
[01:26] <wxl> basically you need to search the repos for the -dev files and install them
[01:27] <wxl> or you can track them down and compile them but then you'd have more dependencies to deal with
[01:27] <wxl> suffice it to say it's not really an issue with ubuntu itself
[01:27] <emanuel> ive tried to install the package from gnome.org but that fails also
[01:27] <Takumi> Paris is a warzone xD
[01:27] <wxl> you might have better, more specific help if you track down the gnome-builder support
[01:27] <pwca> I get Input/output error when attempting to delete from my external NTFS disk. what do I do to repair it?
[01:28] <daftykins> pwca: how is it connected? is it a partition on a dualboot disk?
[01:28] <wxl> bvest of luck emanuel . i gotta jet
[01:28] <daftykins> i get the feeling (without double checking) that emanuel is using a newer gnome than ships?
[01:28] <pwca> daftykins: it's a USB disk.
[01:28] <iamrohit7> recently, i've been getting these errors in dmesg (http://pastebin.com/86H83Q6A). so i went ahead and checked my disk with e2fsck. it found 71 errors on my disk. i also did a smartctl but i can't draw much information from it. http://pastebin.com/86H83Q6A can anyone tell me if i should be worried about the disk?
[01:28] <daftykins> pwca: the NTFS one? "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:29] <emanuel> yes i am daftykins gnome 3.18
[01:29] <daftykins> emanuel: so if it didn't come with whatever you installed and it came from a PPA, not surprised there are issues
[01:29] <TJ-> iamrohit7: that 2nd link was the same as the 1st :)
[01:29] <pwca> daftykins: what does that do?
[01:29] <daftykins> pwca: shares your system messages
[01:30] <iamrohit7> TJ-: here you go http://pastebin.com/ptPDKsxW
[01:30] <pwca> daftykins: I don't want to share my system messages.
[01:30] <daftykins> pwca: it'll create a link for you to paste here
[01:30] <daftykins> pwca: nothing is personal, your concern is pointless
[01:30] <pwca> nothing is personal
[01:30] <daftykins> yeah nothing in the paste
[01:30] <daftykins> open the link before you share it if you're worried.
[01:30] <emanuel> i installed ubuntu gnome 15.10 and upgraded gnome to 3.18 like you said via ppa
[01:31] <daftykins> yeah so the fact you can't find packages right now will be the fault of that PPA, you'll need to contact the maintainer / run an "apt-get update"
[01:31] <TJ-> iamrohit7: time to replace the disk. It's got unrecoverable sectors early in the disk (LBA 472 listed in the SMART log). Stop using it until you have a replacement you can use as a target for a clone operation with the 'ddresuce' tool.
[01:32] <plytro> iamrohit7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211985
[01:32] <plytro> good price on a new ssd for you there
[01:33] <daftykins> ^ would not buy.
[01:33] <plytro> no off brands for you?
[01:33] <plytro> I would not buy as a primary drive
[01:33] <plytro> temp drive, scratch drive, transient data drive sure
[01:33] <daftykins> that chat would be better off in ##hardware
[01:33] <daftykins> ubuntu only in here :)
[01:34] <iamrohit7> TJ-: thanks. but i don't get any errors in the other partitions (i have archlinux on other system). can i boot it and use without mounting the ubuntu partition?
[01:34] <plytro> i'll rephrase to tie it back to ubuntu, hold one
[01:34] <plytro> :P
[01:34] <iamrohit7> plytro: its kinda spam.
[01:34] <daftykins> nah just stop right there
[01:35] <pwca> hello everybody. I am getting Input/output errors when trying to delete files from my external NTFS-formatted disk. what can I do to rectify this situation?
[01:35] <daftykins> iamrohit7: the whole disk is dead. backup your data and take it out
[01:35] <iamrohit7> daftykins: sure, thanks.
[01:35] <plytro> pwca: did you paste the requested output?
[01:35] <daftykins> pwca: right, so run this one instead "dmesg | tail" read that none of the information has anything to do with you... personal data... or anything, then share it - your concern is just holding up the free help here.
[01:36] <pwca> "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 999" didn't work.
[01:36] <plytro> 9999
[01:36] <daftykins> just do the first bit; "dmesg | tail"
[01:37] <pwca> http://termbin.com/xwoj
[01:37] <daftykins> so you're sing some kind of USB converter?
[01:37] <pwca> USB converter?
[01:37] <daftykins> ah no it's just an external seagate product
[01:37] <pwca> I am using an external disk connected by USB.
[01:38] <daftykins> my bad, 2am and my head was in another place
[01:38] <pwca> no problem.
[01:38] <daftykins> if it's NTFS you should use Windows to chkdsk it really
[01:38] <pwca> :(
[01:38] <plytro> pwca: quite easy really though even on linux potentially
[01:38] <plytro> go get an ievm for free
[01:38] <plytro> fire it up and chkdsk
[01:39] <pwca> ievm
[01:39] <daftykins> there is a program on ubuntu to check it, but it's not without risk
[01:39] <plytro> yes, MS gives out free vmware/virtualbox images running windows for testing various browsers
[01:39] <TJ-> iamzero: the disk is failing. Back-up or risk losing everything
[01:39] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows
[01:39] <pwca> this is a total hassle.
[01:39] <plytro> https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
[01:40] <TJ-> iamzero: sorry, tab-complete - the other user left the channel
[01:40] <pwca> I tried ntfsfix already.
[01:40] <pwca> also gparted.
[01:40] <plytro> windows is just better at dealing with windows file systems
[01:40] <plytro> they are the experts after all
[01:41] <pwca> I can't believe I am hearing this.
[01:41] <daftykins> ...why not?
[01:41] <daftykins> NTFS is proprietary, its' whole use is based on reverse engineering
[01:41] <daftykins> (whole use under Linux)
[01:41] <pwca> ok.
[01:41] <weaksauce> does monit need to be started up every time the server starts?
[01:41] <daftykins> anywho, it'd need to be mounted read-write to be able to run ntfsfix on it i'd think
[01:42] <weaksauce> or is it automatic after you set it up and type monit start $someservicename
[01:42] <pwca> hello all, I wish to reformat my external disk. what file format should I use for maximal compatibility + support for large files?
[01:42] <daftykins> weaksauce: a monitor on a GUI-less server? no
[01:42] <daftykins> oh monit, no idea what that is.
[01:42] <plytro> pwca: fat32
[01:42] <TJ-> weaksauce: if the service is enabled, and its config has no errors, it'll auto-start
[01:42] <pwca> plytro: which has limits on file size.
[01:42] <weaksauce> TJ- awesome
[01:43] <plytro> but its best for maximum compatibility out of the box everywhere
[01:43] <plytro> all of my external drives are ext4
[01:43] <plytro> but I installed tools on windows so I could use them there
[01:43] <serlo> Sup
[01:43] <plytro> any drive that needs to be swapped often is indeed fat32
[01:43] <pwca> doesn't Windows recognise ext4?
[01:43] <plytro> nope
[01:43] <plytro> wants to format it
[01:43] <daftykins> pwca: exFAT
[01:43] <pwca> pain.
[01:44] <reisio> pwca: takes 3rd party software
[01:44] <pwca> I do not have admin rights on the Windows machines I use the most.
[01:44] <reisio> pwca: sure you do
[01:44] <daftykins> exFAT supports >4GB files and works fine without any third party software (may be a single package install on ubuntu though)
[01:44] <reisio> never met a Windows machine I couldn't get admin on :p
[01:44] <pwca> ok.
[01:44] <pwca> I don't.
[01:44] <reisio> daftykins: on the literally half dozen devices that support it :p
[01:44] <plytro> and I don't think the software to read ext# needs admin
[01:45] <pwca> maybe ext4 is a good opportunity.
[01:45] <daftykins> reisio: no idea what you're claiming there, works fine across OSs
[01:45] <pwca> option, I mean. it's late.
[01:45] <daftykins> no, don't go ext4
[01:45] <daftykins> you'll be in permissions hell
[01:45] <pwca> oh, I have encountered this.
[01:46] <daftykins> use win7 to format to exFAT with a 4096KB cluster size
[01:46] <pwca> I don't have Win7.
[01:46] <reisio> daftykins: OSes aren't devices
[01:46] <daftykins> alright, well format as exFAT then
[01:46] <reisio> no wonder you have no idea :p
[01:46] <plytro> https://www.maketecheasier.com/format-exfat-in-ubuntu/
[01:46] <plytro> so in his use case we have ubuntu and windows and maybe osx
[01:46] <plytro> exfat is on all 3
[01:47] <daftykins> reisio: you bringing up 'devices' doesn't make any sense to me, so i said what was a sane reply.
[01:47] <pwca> so exfat needs extra software?
[01:47] <plytro> on linux only
[01:47] <reisio> daftykins: devices, they're things
[01:47] <pwca> so exfat requires extra software on Linux.
[01:47] <reisio> pwca: things that aren't ordinary desktop computers aren't great at exfat
[01:47] <daftykins> reisio: i sincerely hope your command about having no idea wasn't aimed at me.
[01:47] <reisio> may or may not matter to you
[01:47] <daftykins> command? comment too.
[01:47] <pwca> it doesn't, reisio.
[01:47] <reisio> daftykins: cool
[01:48] <reisio> pwca: :)
[01:48] <Dakshah> I couldn't find Ubuntu's Google code in wiki page. Does Ubuntu have one?
[01:48] <daftykins> pwca: sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse
[01:48] <daftykins> ^on 14.04
[01:48] <plytro> gparted may do it now, as of that link I gave you it didn't
[01:48] <pwca> some of the machines I use do not have internet access.
[01:48] <plytro> 2013
[01:48] <daftykins> reisio: yeah, look at that - your point was useless
[01:48] <reisio> daftykins: you're so sincere :p
[01:48] <pwca> which means that I will have to have an external USB disk with the exfat packages with me.
[01:49] <pwca> but it's a one time cost, so I guess it's OK.
[01:49] <daftykins> still love to know what 'devices' these were
[01:49] <pwca> unless it requires a billion other things.
[01:49] <daftykins> pwca: because any other Linux host wouldn't be online to install them?
[01:49] <pwca> any other?
[01:49] <reisio> daftykins: oh? Didn't seem like you were interested
[01:51] <daftykins> reisio: not considering you making it personal, no
[01:51] <reisio> you lost me, dude
[01:51] <pwca> ok. so far my best options are: reformatting to exFAT or NTFS. the former has the advantage of being salvageable on Linux and the latter has the advantage of being supported with no hustle on anything.
[01:51] <pwca> I will sleep on it and make my decision after breakfast tomorrow.
[01:51] <reisio> pwca: what was the original problem?
[01:52] <pwca> reisio: I didn't know what nc did.
[01:52] <reisio> pwca: oh you wanted an fsck for ntfs?
[01:52] <reisio> oh, mmm
[01:52] <daftykins> been over that
[01:53] <reisio> nowai
[01:53] <plytro> he didn't want to get a windows VM and use chkdsk
[01:54] <daftykins> boot media would do it too, but a fair chunk of work just to try
[01:54] <reisio> ntfsfix usually does the trick
[01:54] <pwca> human nature is to gravitate towards pleasure and to seek to avoid pain.
[01:54] <daftykins> i'd have done a SMART check if it weren't USB, might not support the query
[01:54] <pwca> the past exchange can be seen in light of that fact.
[01:54] <daftykins> reisio: we were told that was already run
[01:54] <pwca> anyway, I need to sleep.
[01:54] <reisio> daftykins: still usually does the trick :)
[01:54] <pwca> thanks.
[01:54] <OerHeks> trow away your vm and grab a fresh copy
[01:57] <reisio> mmm, fresh vm
[01:57]  * reisio breathes it in
[02:00] <Technobliterator> so, I just installed an application, and now I can't find it anywhere by searching?
[02:01] <reisio> Technobliterator: dpkg -L application | grep -i bin
[02:02] <Technobliterator> "dpkg -L netbeans" doesnt give me anything
[02:02] <Technobliterator> even though I just went through the whole install process
[02:02] <plytro> Technobliterator: did you install with dpkg -i?
[02:02] <plytro> or apt-get?
[02:02] <Technobliterator> oh, no
[02:02] <reisio> Technobliterator: mistake :)
[02:02] <Technobliterator> yeep
[02:02] <Technobliterator> my bad
[02:02] <plytro> you could "sudo updatedb && locate netbeans"
[02:03] <reisio> or just find / -iname '*netbeans*'
[02:03] <reisio> (updatedb uses find anyway)
[02:03] <reisio> but probably ls /usr/bin/*beans* will suffice
[02:03] <reisio> or find /opt/ -iname '*beans*'
[02:03] <reisio> since you installed it wrong
[02:03] <plytro> I think netbeans installs in opt
[02:03] <plytro> does netbeans have a current .deb?
[02:03] <Technobliterator> .sh
[02:03] <reisio> most things have current .deb's
[02:03] <plytro> I always found ubuntu and others to lag a little behind those tools release cycle
[02:03] <plytro> netbeans/eclipse
[02:04] <reisio> I always found netbeans/eclipse to be... not desirable
[02:04] <plytro> well if writing java.....
[02:04] <plytro> you do have the option of intellij
[02:04] <reisio> ...which I always found not desirable :)
[02:04] <plytro> I guess
[02:04] <Technobliterator> I did find: "/usr/share/app-install/desktop/netbeans:netbeans.desktop" among other things by doing that
[02:05] <syntacticNaCl> +1 intellij
[02:05] <reisio> too many tittles
[02:05] <Technobliterator> how do I install using apt-get? just "sudo apt-get install netbeans"?
[02:05] <OerHeks> open dash: netbeans
[02:05] <Technobliterator> I didn't find it using that
[02:06] <OerHeks> Then i guess you have not installed the oracle java thingy?
[02:06] <Technobliterator> it created a netbeans-8.1 file in Home, yet I can't find the application
[02:06] <Technobliterator> the JDK? I installed that
[02:06] <plytro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[02:07] <TJ-> !info netbeans
[02:07] <Technobliterator> I don't know if I should just delete all my netbeans related stuff and install using the instructions o nthat link
[02:09] <syntacticNaCl> Technobliterator, I would use the link.
[02:09] <plytro> the packaged version is a point release behind
[02:09] <plytro> the one in the repos for wily at least
[02:09] <plytro> if you are on lts... unsure
[02:09] <Technobliterator> not sure how to delete all my current netbeans stuff first
[02:10] <plytro> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=netbeans
[02:10] <Technobliterator> since I don't know where it is :p
[02:10] <reisio> Technobliterator: you could do a find by time elapsed
[02:10] <plytro> or if you don't care about wasted disk space, just install using those
[02:10] <reisio> Technobliterator: the sure fire way would be to reinstall it using some kind of sandbox like checkinstall
[02:10] <plytro> did you download the 94mb .sh install script
[02:10] <reisio> Technobliterator: but if it was a .sh, you can probably just read hte script
[02:10] <reisio> the*
[02:11] <plytro> not sure how much space you are going to lose
[02:11] <reisio> moreover, while your package manager doesn't know where the netbeans files are, it _should_ know where _all other files are_
[02:11] <reisio> so can still differentiate, in a harder way
[02:11] <Technobliterator> I downloaded from the site, I'll use the sudo sh to install it this time
[02:15] <Technobliterator> alright, setup complete
[02:15] <Technobliterator> Yep, it works now :D
[02:15] <Technobliterator> thanks all ^.^
[02:17] <plytro> wow that link was last updated 2011
[02:28] <bofh> hi! sorry for a noob question - how can I get coreutils 8.22 instead of 8.13-3ubuntu3.3 ?
[02:31] <plytro> you on LTS?
[02:31] <plytro> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils
[02:31] <plytro> looks like the highest on 14.04 is 8.21 from offical repos
[02:32] <bofh> got some pre-built image on aruba cloud, uname says "Linux validly-http1 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux"
[02:32] <plytro> or are you further back on 12.04 LTS?
[02:32] <plytro> lsb_relase -d
[02:32] <plytro> lsb_release -d
[02:32] <bofh> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[02:32] <plytro> looks like you may be SOL
[02:33] <plytro> from offical repos
[02:33] <bofh> mm, not sure I got you
[02:33] <OerHeks> demand a fresh image with 1404 lts from that vendor https://launchpad.net/coreutils
[02:33] <bofh> never ever used ubuntu server before
[02:34] <OerHeks> prebuild sounds like heavily tweaked
[02:34] <plytro> so the offical apt repos for packages for 12.04 only go up to 8.13
[02:34] <bofh> let me see if they have one
[02:34] <plytro> if you can get 14.04 you can get coreutils 8.21
[02:34] <plytro> at most
[02:34] <plytro> if you can get an 15.10 image you can get 8.23
[02:34] <bofh> New release '14.04.1 LTS' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[02:35] <bofh> perhaps I could upgrade the entire system
[02:35] <plytro> you still won't get to 8.22 though
[02:35] <plytro> even 14.04 only has 8.21
[02:35] <bofh> plytro: do you have coreutils 8.21?
[02:35] <plytro> so if you do-release-upgrade you will probably just get 8.21
[02:35] <bofh> I'm interested if 'ln' has the flag '-r' there
[02:35] <plytro> all my systems are newer than 14.04
[02:36] <bofh> if it does in 8.21 - then i'm good
[02:37] <bofh> whatever, I will upgrade and if it doesn't help - then I'll pick another image
[02:37] <bofh> thanks!
[02:37] <plytro> bofh: you can go to 15.04 if you need to also
[02:37] <plytro> from an LTS
[02:37] <OERIAS> can someone help with this: http://imgur.com/jvTazEg
[02:37] <OERIAS> ^ It doesn't let me update
[02:38] <plytro> bofh: see https://askubuntu.com/questions/618741/update-ubuntu-14-04-to-15-04
[02:38] <plytro> if 8.21 doesn't work for you 15.04 does have 8.23
[02:38] <bofh> plytro: thanks a lot!
[02:46] <bofh> plytro: okay, version 14 has ln with -r flag, so simple upgrade helped
[02:46] <theme2> Hi! Can anybody help me diagnose my computer?
[02:46] <theme2> It often crashes after I open a new tab or click a link in google chrome
[02:47] <theme2> (apparently nondeterministically)
[02:47] <theme2> Do I have to paste logs or something?
[02:47] <havoc-hive> hi =) i love you guys
[02:48] <jay__> I have a question involving Xterm
[02:48] <jay__> Could anyone help me with that?
[02:48] <inteus> !ask | jay__
[02:48] <jay__> Okay, is there any difference between "Xterm" and "Terminal Emulator"
[02:49] <plytro> jay__: likely yes
[02:49] <inteus> two different programs
[02:49] <plytro> Terminal Emulator could be gnome-terminal
[02:49] <jay__> I mean I know they are different programs but whats their difference in functionality?
[02:49] <jay__> Oh
[02:50] <plytro> you could check
[02:50] <plytro> open an emulator
[02:50] <plytro> run xterm
[02:50] <plytro> and then run gnome-terminal
[02:50] <plytro> yes they have different functionality
[02:50] <plytro> however the command line will behave the same in both
[02:50] <plytro> to an extent depending on your .bashrc vs .bash_profile and how they are setup
[02:51] <plytro> some people find it helpful to run gnome-terminal with the prefernce of "Run as login shell" or whatever it is labeled
[02:51] <jay__>  Actually don't know what that means, really don't know anything on Linux honestly
[02:51] <theme2> My computer *sometimes* hangs (and I have to force shutdown) when I open a new tab or click a link in google chrome. I can't reliably reproduce it. How should I diagnose this problem?
[02:51] <plytro> xterm is older and lacks some newer features that some people like/expect
[02:52] <plytro> user terminal emulator, you'll be happier if you're new
[02:52] <plytro> there are a number of terminal emulators for x
[02:53] <plytro> my old devops guy used rxvt
[02:53] <plytro> I use xfce4-terminal
[02:53] <jay__> Well I got Xubuntu and it came with a terminal just called "Terminal Emulator"
[02:53] <plytro> that is xfce4-terminal most likely then
[02:53] <theme2> btw when my computer hangs, I can move my mouse cursor, but I can't do anything else at all (which is weird)
[02:53] <plytro> thats just the label in the menu
[02:53] <jay__> Do you know the way to find out the exact name then?
[02:54] <plytro> actually you can do help -> about and see what it says
[02:54] <plytro> for me in xfce it tells me its GNOME Terminal
[02:55] <havoc-hive> does anyone know how to configure a logitech unify reciever on ubuntu?
[02:56] <jay_> Whoops, I accidentally left
[02:56] <plytro> havoc-hive: no more than google can tell me
[02:56] <jay_> At the top, it says GNU bash
[02:56] <plytro> no, I mean in the menus you use with the mouse
[02:57] <Bashing-om> jay__: Be aware there is no one best, here are more ; 'xterm' (main) , 'kterm' (universe), 'bogl-bterm' (main), 'pterm' (universe), 'torque-client-x11' (universe), 'qterm' (universe), 'torque-client' (universe), 'aterm-ml' (universe), 'aterm' (universe) . That are readily available .
[02:59] <plytro> jay_: or if you have a prompt and only one terminal window open you could do ps us|grep term
[02:59] <plytro> and find the terminal app name
[03:02] <OerHeks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/five-alternative-terminal-emulator-apps-for-ubuntu  or more recent with some nice comments http://www.tecmint.com/linux-terminal-emulators/
[03:04] <plytro> I just use the default for my window manager
[03:28] <thorie> hello, im getting error messages from ubuntu saying my /boot is full (100%) ... how can i solve this? i saw there are a lot of various initrd.img files and such, but i don't know what is deletable at all
[03:31] <plytro> try running apt-get autoremove
[03:31] <plytro> should clean up old unused kernels from there
[03:33] <cdk_> has any one used chrome remote desktop?
[03:37] <old1> Does ubuntu have handbrake batch or is there a link fo a script etc that will allow me to crunch vid files from a dir???...
[03:38] <bazhang> !info handbrake | old1
[03:39] <old1> yea i have handbrake just didn't know if anyone had a script for it on the command line or other that would allow me to crunch vids from dir a to dir b on the fly...
[03:39] <bazhang> try the handbrake channel
[03:40] <bazhang>  /msg alis list handbrake   to find it
[03:40] <JohnDoe123> Hi! I need some serious help. I just created a Ubuntu Live CD and installed Ubuntu on my only disk, a perfectly healthy SSD. Everything went just fine, but within 10 minutes things starts to crash. The additional driver thingie and something else both generated an error and something about closing unexpectedly. What can I do? :/
[03:42] <old1> doesn't have to be handbrake just looking for a script/binary to crunch vids in ubuntu???
[03:44] <Bomber4Chats> Hey, what's the folder location for kubuntu for default config? (or for plasma). I'm having login issues, and I already know I has to do with bad config files (config thinks I have an external monitor but I don't)
[03:44] <plytro> old1: that isn't ubuntu specific
[03:44] <old1>  /msg alis list
[03:46] <Bomber4Chats> Usr/bin I think
[03:47] <glenn> /join #!!!!!!l
[03:47] <glenn> kjlih
[03:48] <JohnDoe123> Hi! I need some serious help. I just created a Ubuntu Live CD and installed Ubuntu on my only disk, a perfectly healthy SSD. Everything went just fine, but within 10 minutes things starts to crash. The additional driver thingie and something else both generated an error and something about closing unexpectedly. What can I do? :/
[03:49] <plytro> reinstall?
[03:50] <plytro> thats one option
[03:50] <plytro> probably won't do much though
[03:50] <JohnDoe123> What do you think is the problem?
[03:51] <OERIAS> Can someone help me with this problem: http://i.imgur.com/p5wGTp0.png
[03:51] <OERIAS> It will not let me apply the updates
[03:51] <plytro> JohnDoe123: no clue what the problem may be based on your description
[03:52] <JohnDoe123> plytro: I can't replicate it and then give you the crash log?
[03:52] <Rave1> JohnDoe123,   most likly video driver issue
[03:52] <plytro> OERIAS: what updates? chrome?
[03:52] <JohnDoe123> Rave1: Is there anything I can do?
[03:52] <old1> well the handbrake channel is zero help oh well...
[03:52] <plytro> you could always open a terminal and do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <plytro> with sudo on both of those
[03:53] <JohnDoe123> plytro: Do you mean me?
[03:53] <tawan> Accidentally left "remember forever" when opening an encrypted drive. Need the system to forget this and re-lock the drive - any ideas? Seahorse doesn't seem to help.
[03:53] <plytro> JohnDoe123: that was directed at OERIAS
[03:53] <JohnDoe123> plytro: OK.
[03:53] <JohnDoe123> Rave1: That sounds solveable... What do you want me to try?
[03:53] <Rave1> JohnDoe123,  install the proper video drivers.. but i dont use ubuntu  so really cant help with details no how they do it
[03:53] <plytro> JohnDoe123: did you enable the propietary drivers?
[03:54] <plytro> and then things started to crash?
[03:54] <isReKT2000> OERIAS, enable it in the settings. most likely one of the packages are non-free, or i'd rather do what plytro said if you don't want to dig in the settings
[03:54] <JohnDoe123> Rave1: I don't know which one to choose. plytro: No, I'm still using the default settings on EVERYTHING.
[03:55] <isReKT2000> Which video card do you have??
[03:55] <JohnDoe123> GeForce GTX 660.
[03:55] <JohnDoe123> NVIDIA.
[03:55] <Bomber4Chats> Anyone know where the default config files for plasma exist?
[03:55] <OERIAS> plytro, It is a general system updates
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Bomber4Chats: maybe the #kubuntu guys know?
[03:56] <isReKT2000> 660. Okay, I'll look at it
[03:56] <plytro> OERIAS: either do the apt-get stuff as root or sudo them or find the settings in the gui (note I have no idea where those check boxes are)
[03:57] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Tell me if you need an image of what my additional drivers list is like.
[03:57] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, that's later if other things are causing problems
[03:57] <isReKT2000> 32-bit or 64-bit?
[03:57] <OERIAS> plytro, find what?
[03:57] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: 64.
[03:58] <plytro> OERIAS: anything in the gui honestly
[03:58] <OERIAS> You're not making sense
[03:58] <Bomber4Chats> The answer was .local/share/kscreen
[03:59] <OERIAS> It is telling me that I need authenticate these packages
[03:59] <plytro> OERIAS: open a terminal window
[03:59] <plytro> then type sudo apt-get update
[04:00] <plytro> then when that is done type "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Bomber4Chats
[04:01] <tawan> Accidentally left "remember forever" when opening an encrypted drive. Need the system to forget this and re-lock the drive - any ideas? Seahorse doesn't seem to help.
[04:02] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Are you still there?
[04:02] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, yeah
[04:02] <isReKT2000> ubuntu version?
[04:02] <OERIAS> plytro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256540/
[04:02] <OERIAS> ^ Check that out
[04:02] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Whatever the latest LTS is. 14.04?
[04:02] <isReKT2000> 14.04.3 I believe.
[04:03] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: That's it.
[04:03] <plytro> OERIAS: just run "sudo apt-get upgrade" now
[04:04] <plytro> since the update had the gpg errors the && failed and it didn't run the next command
[04:07] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, Can't find anything in the repos, so you can download the driver .run over here: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/92826
[04:07] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Is that the same as http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/92826/en-us ?
[04:08] <isReKT2000> pretty sure
[04:09] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: I don't think I've ever installed anything on Ubuntu before. What do I do with the file?
[04:10] <isReKT2000> Single click on the file. Does it show as a Shell script?
[04:10] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: It is a .run file and file properties says shell script.
[04:10] <isReKT2000> Run it then.
[04:11] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: The thing is... I don't know how.
[04:11] <isReKT2000> Right-click and click Open?
[04:12] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: It just opens in Leafpad.
[04:12] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: it'd be better to install Ubuntu packages than doing a manual installation
[04:12] <isReKT2000> (my linux skills are very rusty)
[04:12] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Do you want to help me?
[04:13] <JohnDoe123> I'm fresh out of Windows camp.
[04:13] <isReKT2000> TJ-, I can't find any nvidia ppa's or things for the driver version 352.55
[04:13] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: sure can. which Ubuntu release is it?
[04:13] <TJ-> isReKT2000: JohnDoe123 we have a 'special' GPU drivers only PPA maintained now, at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:13] <isReKT2000> 14.04.3, he said
[04:14] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Yes, he's right. 14.04.3 x64.
[04:14] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: So I visit that link and then what?
[04:14] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa  && sudo apt-get update"
[04:15] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Perfect. But one question, why do I avoid the additional drivers menu?
[04:15] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: once this PPA is installed and apt aware of it, 'ubuntu-drivers' tooling should see the most recent driver package from the PPA
[04:16] <isReKT2000> He has a GTX 660 however...
[04:16] <isReKT2000> 352 is the latest
[04:16] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Is what isReKT2000 just said messing it up?
[04:17] <plytro> OERIAS: things better?
[04:17] <TJ-> The PPA has nvidia-355 and -358 for 14.04
[04:17] <isReKT2000> All we need is 352.55 thoug
[04:17] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: if you've run those commands I gave you, we can now check which driver the system thinks is the best available
[04:18] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Give me a minute to run it and we'll see.
[04:18] <jr-rescue> My hard drive died, I bougth an external hard drive, and I'm trying to copy /dev/sda1 using DDRescue GUI, but I keep getting a "Could not unmount disk /dev/sda1"; can anyone help?
[04:18] <isReKT2000> if it isn't right though - apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-352
[04:18] <isReKT2000> (if you added the ppa)
[04:19] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: One minute. :)
[04:19] <jr-rescue> (I don't believ I have anything on /dev/sda mounted)
[04:19] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, Okay ;)
[04:19] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: once those commands are done you check what's available with "ubuntu-drivers devices | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit" and give us the pastebin link it provides.
[04:20] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: OK, so "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa  && sudo apt-get update" is now run. Next step?
[04:20] <jr-rescue> *bump*
[04:20] <isReKT2000> the pastebin package name is clever
[04:20] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: give 'ubuntu-drivers' a few seconds; it takes its time!
[04:20] <isReKT2000> pasteb init
[04:20] <isReKT2000> pastebin it
[04:20] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I hope you have pastebinit installed. If not, do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[04:21] <isReKT2000> you get used to apt real quick
[04:21] <jr-rescue> (I can use ddrescue [without the GUI])
[04:21] <Hulio> hi guys
[04:21] <Hulio> how are you doing tonight?
[04:21] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I'm stuck on your second step. What do I do with "ubuntu-drivers"?
[04:22] <JohnDoe123> It gives me some usage message.
[04:22] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Just in case, first do: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[04:22] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: OK.
[04:22] <Hulio> how to list disks?
[04:22] <Hulio> lsdld?
[04:22] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, do the command after installing pastebinit ubuntu-drivers devices | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit
[04:23] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Then "ubuntu-drivers devices | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[04:23] <franklin> how do I change the theme again in MATE?
[04:23] <jr-rescue> Hulio: Try the GUI program "Disks" in Dash
[04:23] <TJ-> Hulio: "sudo lsblk -f"
[04:23] <Hulio> good thanks guys
[04:23] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: OK. TJ-: OK.
[04:23] <JohnDoe123> Hold on.
[04:23] <Hulio> i prefer Tj answer
[04:23] <franklin> from mate menu, what's the program called to select theme
[04:23] <franklin> ?
[04:24] <jr-rescue> Guys, I'm desperate; can someone help?
[04:24] <OERIAS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256764/
[04:24] <TJ-> jr-rescue: if a mount is reported check with "grep sda /proc/mounts"
[04:24] <Hulio> brb
[04:24] <HackerII> franklin,  juat right click on the desktop
[04:24] <HackerII> just
[04:24] <OERIAS> plytro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256764/
[04:25] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256765/ isReKT2000: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256765/
[04:25] <OERIAS> No things are just as bad as before
[04:25] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: you see line 12 says recommended: "driver   : nvidia-358 - third-party free recommended"
[04:25] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: You can now do "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" and it'll do it for you
[04:26] <jr-rescue> TJ- THANKS SO MUCH! It reports "/dev/sda1 /mnt ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0"; sorry to be a pain, but how do I unmount it?
[04:26] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: AWESOME. Hold on.
[04:26] <TJ-> jr-rescue: "sudo umount /mnt"
[04:26] <isReKT2000> it probably won't be stable though
[04:26] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Too late now! Why did you have to tell me that? :(
[04:26] <TJ-> jr-rescue: and I'd recommend NOT using the GUI; you'll have more info/control from the command-line especially if the rescue is interupted
[04:26] <jr-rescue> "umount: /mnt: device is busy." - YIKES!
[04:27] <TJ-> isReKT2000: why would it not be stable?
[04:27] <jr-rescue> TJ-: Will do in a sec after I get /dev/sda1 unmounted
[04:27] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: if you do experience instability, it's easy to uninstall that version and install one of the others
[04:27] <isReKT2000> 352 is the latest official driver for his graphics card though
[04:27] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I hope so! :o
[04:27] <TJ-> jr-rescue: looks like you have something operating on /mnt/
[04:28] <TJ-> isReKT2000: The driver packages specifically *claim* the device IDs they support; the latest is 358
[04:28] <isReKT2000> TJ-, still is easy to uninstall though, as you said
[04:28] <jr-rescue> TJ-: what could be operating on it and how do I stop it? (Sorry to be a pain)
[04:28] <TJ-> jr-rescue: have you changed directory so you have a terminal shell, or some GUI program, with its curent working directory in /mnt/
[04:29] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: The new drivers did nothing to fix the tearing in my browser. :(
[04:29] <isReKT2000> TJ-, https://gyazo.com/041d6379f382088684cf5042a9363ca1
[04:29] <TJ-> jr-rescue: also try "sudo umount -l /mnt" -- that does a lazy unmount, then check with "grep sda /proc/mounts" again
[04:29] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: you'll need to reboot the system for the new drivers to be loaded. Did you do that?
[04:29] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: No, I'll do that now then. Brb!
[04:30] <isReKT2000> and do nvidia-xconfig as well maybe
[04:30] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: What does that do?
[04:30] <TJ-> That's done as part of the package installation
[04:30] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: TJ-: Brb. Reboot!
[04:30] <isReKT2000> TJ-, ;) I learn more than one thing per day, I'm happy about that lol
[04:31] <TJ-> isReKT2000: that's the point of packaging, automating the install and config so users don't try it themselves and mess it up
[04:31] <Al3x_10m> jr-rescue: you could try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-forcefully-unmount-a-disk-partition.html
[04:32] <jr-rescue> TJ-: It's unmounted now, thanks so much. I'm looking up how to do ddrescue from the command line
[04:32] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: The tearing is still here. :(
[04:32] <swift110-phone> Hey
[04:32] <TJ-> jr-rescue: If the hard drive is failing, is there any reason not to rescue the entire drive, or do you only need the file-system that is in partition #1 ?
[04:33] <jr-rescue> Do I need to make a partition forst to copt /dev/sda1 ?
[04:33] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, anything else wrong?
[04:33] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: does the PC have hybrid Optimus GPUs
[04:33] <isReKT2000> if so, you need to install bumblebee
[04:33] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Nothing yet, but I haven't tried anything. TJ-: How do I figure that one out?
[04:33] <TJ-> jr-rescue: you can have ddrescue write into a file if you want to.
[04:33] <jr-rescue> TJ-: No reason not to rescue the entire drive
[04:33] <jr-rescue> HOW? (please!)
[04:33] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:34] <TJ-> jr-rescue: see "man ddrecue" note how the synopsis shows "ddrescue [options] infile outfile [logfile]"
[04:34] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Can I send it to you in a private message?
[04:35] <TJ-> jr-rescue: so that means you *could* do "ddrescue /dev/sda1 /path/to/rescued-data.file" for example
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> Or does it not contain anything private?
[04:35] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: it's fine, nothing private in the log
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256845/
[04:35] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: it shows what happens when the GUI X server starts
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Ahh.
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: What's bumblebee?
[04:36] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: OK, thankfully no Optimus! A single Nvidia GPU
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Woo!
[04:36] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, basically optimus drivers
[04:36] <isReKT2000> but you don't need it
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: So I don't need it now then.
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> Perfect.
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: Any solution for the browser tearing when scrolling?
[04:37] <isReKT2000> Does it do it when scrolling quickly
[04:38] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: that sounds like a v-sync issue
[04:38] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: It does it now and then. I can't tell how fast I scroll.
[04:38] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I can't live with it!
[04:38] <isReKT2000> Browser?
[04:38] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: in the dash type "nvidia X settings" and run the tool
[04:39] <isReKT2000> If it's Firefox that's usual lol
[04:39] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[04:39] <vishal_> can anybody help me for creating dual boot ??
[04:39] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: go to the OpenGL Settings tab, and tell us what the Sync to VBlank setting is
[04:39] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Yes, that is correct
[04:39] <franklin> dude you're better of going to stackoverflow
[04:40] <vishal_> ubuntu and windows
[04:40] <vishal_> ohh
[04:40] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Sync to VBlank is checked.
[04:40] <vishal_> thanks
[04:40] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: try disabling it as a test. if it doesn't help, enable it again
[04:41] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Do I need to restart Firefox or reboot?
[04:42] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I didn't restart anything, but the tearing is still there.
[04:43] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: There are 2 locations where the settings need modifying, sometimes. Here's a link explaining it:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu/
[04:43] <isReKT2000> boot a ubuntu live cd, select language and, select "Try Ubuntu before installing." When it boots up go to the installer. On the disk selection, just choose "Install alongside <Windows version>" and  you go through the setup.
[04:43] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: But it's not even videos. EVERYTHING is tearing. Does it still apply?
[04:44] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, Most likely restart Firefox
[04:44] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: yes.
[04:44] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: OK. TJ-: Should I try to restart Firefox first?
[04:44] <isReKT2000> it depends however
[04:44] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: the cause is when the application is updating the screen fraebuffer as the GPU is in the middle of copying the bits to the monitor - so you get some from frame X, and others from frame X+1
[04:45] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I'm not sure it is needed, but log-out and log-in will make sure the X server had restarted and the settings should be set
[04:45] <isReKT2000> TJ-, nothing better than not having to restart :)
[04:46] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I've bookmarked your link, but I'll trying logging out and back in, so brb. isReKT2000: Brb.
[04:48] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: Argh! Stupid tearing is still there.
[04:48] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, quick tip: you can use a real irc client (I'm sure there is one in the repos
[04:48] <isReKT2000> but you don't have to
[04:49] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: From what I'm reading, the cause is in the Compiz compositor when it is active. The technical term apparently is "Unredirected windows"
[04:49] <isReKT2000> ubuntu use compiz, yes
[04:49] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: I'll worry about that later. TJ-: "anon@PC:~$ compiz --version The program 'compiz' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install compiz-core"!
[04:49] <isReKT2000> weird...
[04:50] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: I need to confess something to you two. I'm... using... Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS. I thought you wouldn't help me if I came in here asking for Lubuntu help. I'm sorry.
[04:51] <isReKT2000> Oh, fine.
[04:51] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I think part of the problem is you've got a relatively old (don't shout!) release of Ubuntu and the GPU/graphics tools have moved on a lot since 14.04 was released. Because it has Long Term Support however, the more recent kernels and Xorg drivers are backported to 14.04. You could try updating to those.
[04:51] <TJ-> !hwe | JohnDoe123
[04:51] <isReKT2000> Lubuntu is a direct cousin of Ubuntu however
[04:52] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: if you're using Lubuntu, I don't thnk it ever uses a compositor
[04:52] <isReKT2000> As advertised by Canonical of course, LTS versions get 5 years of full support
[04:53] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: So should I still try to update the kernel and Xorg drivers if I'm using Lubuntu LTS?
[04:53] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: usually tearing goes away when the compositor is disabled, so if that is the case on your system (no compositing) I'm surprised you're seeing tearing. That makes we wonder if the accelerated drivers are fully working
[04:53] <isReKT2000> 352 had a problem that made the desktop unusable though
[04:53] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I always manage to get these weird problems.
[04:54] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Do "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils"
[04:54] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: What do you two think would be the next appropiate step?
[04:54] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: OK.
[04:54] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: once that package is installed do "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell us if direct rendering is enabled
[04:54] <ComputerChic> Hey all
[04:55] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Seems to get stuck on "0% [Waiting for headers]"...
[04:56] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I complained too fast. It's done now.
[04:56] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: that's the package updater :)
[04:56] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: "anon@PC:~$ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes"
[04:56] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Is that the info you wanted from that command?
[04:56] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: good, that's working correctly
[04:57] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Should I enable Sync to VBlank again?
[04:58] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: yes.
[04:58] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Done!
[04:58] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: But I REALLY need the tearing to go away. I can live with much, but not that.
[04:59] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I'm reading some posts in the ubuntu forums from users of XFCE (Xubuntu) saying that they replaced/installed the compositor "compton" and ran it using "compton --vsync opengl" to fix their tearing issues. I'm not sure how relevant that is to your situ, but it may be worth trying. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2212418
[05:00] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, it is worth a try, since you want it gone from your browser
[05:01] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: A post in that thread states "Works just fine, so I now I guess it's just a matter of putting compton in the startup applications Cheers guys"... Do I have to do it on each boot?
[05:02] <isReKT2000> put it in the startup applications and it will do it everytime
[05:04] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: a different solution on comment #5 of that thread suggests editing "/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf" and altering "xserver-command=" to be "xserver-command=X -bs" (which disables use of the backing-store buffer)
[05:05] <mancomunado> What can I perform when systemd stucks at "[ok] Starting system message bus: dbus". And last resouce to boot is "xinit startx"? Only "startx" shows "kdm cannot open theme file !!! to be replace by desktop base @@@ mail system possiby broken". And "exec startkde" closes the terminal.
[05:06] <TJ-> mancomunado: if you're seeing 'startx' then that isn't the standard package-installed GUI startup. Presumably you've set it up yourself
[05:06] <mancomunado> What?
[05:07] <mancomunado> There's no boot.
[05:07] <mancomunado> I have to type manually "xinit startkde" to start the machine or get stuck there forever.
[05:08] <ghostboarder> hey guys, i have an orphan vm on my iscsi san (using esxi 5.1) that i am trying to make sure contains no data. Booting from the Server 2012 iso shows 'unallocated space' when commencing setup, and booting from a Ubuntu 14 iso doesnt show the volume at all. Is it relatively safe to say at this point that the volume contains no data?
[05:17] <TJ-> mancomunado: is that 15.10 ?
[05:20] <TJ-> mancomunado: you first might want to try booting to the console so you can control/test the GUI start-up. To do that, edit the kernel command-line at the GRUB boot-menu adding "systemd.unit=multiuser.target". That'll prevent the GUI starting. You can then log-in at the console and then test GUI with "sudo systemctl start sddm.service" (if the system is Kubuntu) or "sudo systemctl start lightdm.service" if the
[05:20] <TJ-> system is Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu etc
[05:25] <mancomunado> TJ-, I already login on consoles. that's the whole problem
[05:25] <mancomunado> GUI is necessary to boot manually though startx
[05:28] <TJ-> mancomunado: 'startx' isn't the way to start the desktop environment though, the display manager packages do that. If they fail, look at the log files in /var/log/ for clues as to why they fail
[05:31] <mancomunado> TJ-, I beleive there's something related to rc.d
[05:35] <Bobozoid> I need help
[05:36] <MikeA2> Hello! How can I mage GParted to use the entire USB? http://i.imgur.com/X8uSC2V.png
[05:37] <MikeA2> It says used 14.52 MiB?
[05:38] <OerHeks> MikeA2, there seems to be no unused space, so the missing 1.48 Mib is in the fat filesystem and MBR.
[05:38] <Bobozoid> Got sick and tired of Thunderbird messing up, installed evolution, set up accounts, all settings are right, but still can not connect, getting error messages: peer cut connection...
[05:39] <MikeA2> OerHeks: Wait. No unused space? Don't you mean used space?
[05:40] <Bobozoid> I don't even know what I am supposed to be looking for here!!!!!
[05:41] <MikeA2> OerHeks: Are you there?
[05:43] <OerHeks> MikeA2, oh reading it wrong, 14.52 in use, maybe hidden files like . or ..
[05:45] <blooregard> Greetings everyone.  Does anyone know of any Linux tools that can view a Windows memory.dmp file?
[06:04] <shurtagul> [23:56] <shurtagul> So why when I executed "sudo apt-get purge wine*" does the shell go ahead and purge all my applications?
[06:08] <c|oneman> shurtagul: I think its because purge also deletes related applications
[06:09] <c|oneman> why the *?
[06:10] <c|oneman> I guess purge just app +config files, so thats not why. It must be your asterisk
[06:12] <c_smith_> soooo I've a question about a partitioning setup, I'm looking to chop down on some unused space in my root partition with my next install (that I'm doin now) and re-allocate it to /home, would 80GB suffice even for have a good deal of games installed (not counting stuff in Steam that goes into the user folder under /home)?
[06:13] <shurtagul> cloneman: because I alse had winetricks I wanted to delete, I thought it purges everything that startes with "wine", what the asterisk is usually used for. I know its done this before and I always forget it. Dunno how to safely remove it :/
[06:14] <c|oneman> well, can you just purge wine and then winetricks without using the *
[06:14] <c|oneman> unless you have a lot of other packages that start with wine for some reason?
[06:14] <Luke78923> Hey! I just created a fresh Ubuntu Live USB. When I boot, there's two USB options in the list. One with UEFI in front of it and the other one without UEFI. Which do I choose and why? What are the differences?
[06:15] <c_smith_> Luke78923: one is using the UEFI setup that PC has to boot where the other is using the old MBR/BIOS mode to boot, as to which to use, it's mainly based on personal preference and hardware constraints to an extent
[06:16] <Luke78923> c_smith_: Oh, okay. So I can't mess things up by choosing the wrong one?
[06:16] <Luke78923> Or, "wrong" one.
[06:16] <c_smith_> Luke78923: you can, but only if you're intending to dual-boot with an already installed OS like Windows
[06:17] <Luke78923> c_smith_: I'm done with Windows. :D Time for another question?
[06:17] <c_smith_> Luke78923: ah, then it really boils down to what you want and how big your HDD is mainly
[06:17] <Luke78923> 250GB SSD. Time for another question? :P
[06:17] <c_smith_> Luke78923: MBR/BIOS only supports up to 2TB iirc
[06:18] <c_smith_> Luke78923: ask away!
[06:18] <Luke78923> c_smith_: After creating the Live USB, I opened the USB in GParted. It's formatted as FAT32. Is that all okay?
[06:18] <c_smith_> Luke78923: yup, perfectly normal, and exactly why it shows up twice,
[06:19] <Luke78923> c_smith_: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!  Thanks!
[06:20] <Luke78923> Bye!
[06:21] <Hafez> salam
[06:22] <Hafez> hi
[06:45] <guest-LSDVhh> hi
[06:46] <greedlexer> It's slow. Islam ala
[06:48] <greedlexer> French welcomed the Islamic comrades
[07:04] <mofaph> Hi, all. I add an indicator icon, how can I add notification messages?
[07:10] <iBurley> I know this isn't specifically an Ubuntu question, but for mpv (or any video player, really) should I be using alsa or pulse for audio output?
[07:11] <odroid> how to set time from terminal  from my.ntp.server.org?
[07:11] <odroid> ntpdate not get effect
[07:12] <SirLagz> iBurley: personally, I'd use ALSA. one less layer than pulse.
[07:12] <SirLagz> odroid: check again? ntpdate takes a sec for it to change the time
[07:14] <iBurley> SirLagz, alright, thanks, that's what I was leaning towards as well.
[07:15] <SirLagz> iBurley: no probs
[07:17] <odroid> is there are any way remove chromium (default browser in xubuntu) checks ssl security? It's can't open even google.com if system date is old
[07:17] <wileee> apt-get remove or purge
[07:18] <odroid> i can't remove chromium: there are no good browser (opera) at armv71 dists
[07:23] <odroid> how to find out what branch of ubuntu i am running now?
[07:23] <odroid> uname - a don't shows that
[07:30] <bindi> odroid: lsb_release -a
[07:31] <odroid> Command 'lsb_release' from package 'lsb-release' (main)
[07:31] <odroid> lsb_realease: command not found
[07:32] <bindi> you mistyped it...
[07:33] <odroid> oh yes, sorry it is "saucy"
[07:34] <wileee> odroid, saucy is end of life, you need an upgrade
[07:35] <odroid> am not sure that there are update for ARM64
[07:35] <wileee> odroid, hows about you check, your not supported here with saucy is all.
[07:36] <odroid> i can't make working DVB-TV stick on
[07:36] <cristian_c> hello
[07:37] <hamdroid> i installed vnc on my ubuntu vps, i can run the server from the root account without issues. im now trying to run it from a differnt account but i get this error vncserver: Wrong type or access mode of /home/vncacct/.vnc.
[07:37] <cristian_c> I'd like to use edid-decode to set a new video resolution properly
[07:38] <cristian_c> If I type 'xrandr --props | edid-decode', I get also: ' No header found'
[07:39] <cristian_c> but, previously in the output, I read also: header:          53 63 72 65 65 6e 20 30
[07:41] <cristian_c> then, after much information, I read: ' EDID block does not conform at all! Block has broken checksum Bad year of manufacture Bad week of manufacture Manufacturer name field contains garbage'
[07:41] <cristian_c> How could I solve this issue?
[07:42] <cristian_c> How can I use properly edid-decode to set a new resolution?
[07:42] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:43] <cristian_c> odroid: are ypu using an odroid board?
[07:43] <maxtimbo> Hello, I have a hot key that locks the screen. I would like to map that key to suspend. How can I achieve this?
[07:44] <odroid> odroid-u2
[07:44] <cristian_c> odroid: what repositories are you using?
[07:44] <odroid> i want make working on it usb-tv stick
[07:44] <odroid> now repository not working
[07:45] <cristian_c> odroid: ?
[07:45] <odroid> am working on rebuild sources.list
[07:45] <cristian_c> odroid: cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[07:46] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: lock = hibernate?
[07:48] <maxtimbo> cristian_c, lock just locks the screen. there is no actual hibernation. With suspenc the processor shuts off and the session is stored in ... ram or the ssd...
[07:48] <odroid> cristian_c: http://paste.debian.net/332629/
[07:49] <cristian_c> odroid: debian? O.o
[07:50] <odroid> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258060/
[07:50] <cristian_c> odroid: you are using the usual ubuntu repositories
[07:50] <cristian_c> *common
[07:51] <cristian_c> odroid: I didn't know they work on an arm machine
[07:51] <cristian_c> O.o
[07:51] <cristian_c> technically they are not arm binaries
[07:51] <odroid> they not work like as default from clear install '(
[07:52] <ubuntu___> Hi, i am having troubles formatting a 5TB external HDD (Intenso Memory Center). gdisk shows size of about 36 TB(TiB)
[07:53] <cristian_c> odroid: wait a moment
[07:55] <cristian_c> odroid: maybe, you should use deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/
[07:55] <cristian_c> for your reposutories
[07:56] <cristian_c> in place of archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[07:57] <maxtimbo> ubuntu___, you have to use a certain filesystem type for big hdds. I forget what exactly it is but it's ext3/4
[07:57] <odroid> now i change it i to http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258081/  apt-get update still running
[07:57] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: can yout try xev?
[07:58] <maxtimbo> xev?
[07:58] <wileee> gpt
[07:58] <cristian_c> odroid: wait
[07:59] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: yes, it's a tool
[07:59] <cristian_c> !info xev
[08:00] <maxtimbo> Oh I know what you're talking about...
[08:00] <cristian_c> odroid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258093/
[08:00] <maxtimbo> mapping the key isn't the problem. I'm looking for the command to suspend the pc so that I can map it to a custom keymap
[08:01] <cristian_c> ok
[08:01] <cristian_c> !suspend
[08:02] <cristian_c> !info pm-utils
[08:03] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: pm-suspend is the way
[08:04] <maxtimbo> it sure is
[08:04] <maxtimbo> ty
[08:04] <cristian_c> man pm-suspend
[08:06] <maxtimbo> ok so that command has to run as super user
[08:06] <maxtimbo> I know there is a way to enable sudo commands to run without a password...
[08:13] <mate_> Hey guys. Just upgraded to 15.10. I have some problems with catalyst. The resolution is different. xrandr shows only this one as available. I can't open amdccle. It tells me to reinstall or drun the command aticonfig. With aticonfig it tells me to reinstall, it says can't open something. Now I am installing open source drivers. Can I go back to the catalyst one?
[08:14] <mate_> I will reboot now.
[08:16] <jost> Hi! I have a very slow internet connection, but want to update to 15.10. How can I just download the packages, but not yet install them? I want to control the time the updates are installed manually, but the download needs to run overnight
[08:18] <maxtimbo> jost, you can download the image from the website and then burn a disk
[08:19] <maxtimbo> jost, install chuck it in like normal, restart and it will ask at some point if you simply want to upgrade
[08:19] <jost> maxtimbo: what about downloading the stuff to disk, into the apt cache instead? Would be much easier
[08:19] <maxtimbo> jost, your call, bro
[08:20] <maxtimbo> jost, that's the way i have done it in the past
[08:20] <jost> maxtimbo: ok :-)
[08:20] <mate_> I guess I wasn't using the catalyst driver before although it was installed. I couldn't open amdccle, it was throwing an error. I would like to know how to install catalyst and get it working. I read there is a problem with gcc5 and it needs to be compiled with gcc4.9? I saw an answer at stack exchange(http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/241893/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-15-9-on-ubuntu-15-10) I would like to know if I install
[08:20] <mate_> catalyst from the drivers menu it will be correctly instlaled. Or is there something else to make it working?
[08:23] <OERIAS> can someone help with this http://imgur.com/2cZPwZg . I can't update the packages
[08:25] <XenuLives> When does Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey get released?
[08:30] <OERIAS> XenuLives !ops
[08:31] <OERIAS> !ops
[08:31] <wileee> OERIAS, If you add repos, you have to add the keys.
[08:31] <OERIAS> wileee, that's the thing, I lost the repos
[08:31] <OERIAS> So I want to remove them'
[08:31] <wileee> !ppapurge
[08:32] <wileee> OerHeks, ^^^^ the bot
[08:32] <mate_> Ok, I enabled proposed from the bug report and now I am going to reboot.
[08:32] <wileee> OERIAS, sorry OerHeks
[08:33] <Myrtti> OERIAS: huh?
[08:34] <OERIAS> Myrtti, huh what?
[08:34] <Myrtti> oh right.
[08:34] <mate_> Ok still same problem.
[08:35] <OERIAS> wileee, I get gpg error when i update
[08:36] <OERIAS> *sudo apt-get
[08:36] <OERIAS> *sudo apt-get update
[08:36] <wileee> !ppapurge | OerHeks
[08:37] <wileee> OerHeks, are you seeing the ppapurge info, your nic is like another
[08:37] <wileee> OERIAS, ^^^^, getting late here
[08:37] <maxtimbo> mate_, still have the receipt for the gpu?
[08:38] <OERIAS> wileee, I need to what is causing the error I do not know the repo that is causing it
[08:38] <OERIAS> Which is making me repeat the same question over and over
[08:38] <mate_> maxtimbo, I don't know. I just found an answer I am going to try. http://askubuntu.com/questions/445954/unable-to-open-etc-ati-control-please-reinstall-the-driver
[08:38] <wileee> OERIAS, Ah, run the update in the terminal and pastebin it.
[08:38] <mate_> I get the same thing with this guy with aticonfig.
[08:39] <wileee> OERIAS, It's all a matter of communication, kit's not always easy. ;)
[08:39] <maxtimbo> mate_, good luck
[08:42] <mate_> Still doesn't work. I get smaller than the resolution I was getting in 15.04.
[08:42] <wileee> OERIAS, sudo apt-get update in the terminal than copy and paste all of it to at pastebin.com and gives us the url.
[08:43] <OERIAS> wileee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258406/
[08:43] <wileee> thanks
[08:44] <wileee> OERIAS, try this sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[08:45] <wileee> than     sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys  3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[08:46] <wileee> see if those clear and fix it
[08:47] <wileee> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32   one space after keys is correct use this one
[08:47] <OERIAS> Both are processed and unchanged
[08:47] <dicktwat> got problem with the updated somewith with launchpad.net ppa's, tryed to change it but still fails
[08:48] <OERIAS> wileee, I still get the same issues when i apt-get update
[08:49] <wileee> OERIAS, you proxied?
[08:50] <wileee> vpn...etc
[08:50] <OERIAS> Not I am not proxied
[08:53] <Dik1s> rctf on freenode
[08:53] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:54] <wileee> OERIAS, Not sure than, I have to assume you ran the commands correct, I see this working for some on the net with exact keys.
[08:54] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and  documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:54] <witheld> Crazy/serious issue. Ubuntu is trying to decrypt the wrong drive at boot. I start it up, and it promps me for the passphrase for /dev/sdb5
[08:54] <OERIAS> It is frustrating since I can't install the crummy updates
[08:54] <witheld> but there isn't a /dev/sdb5
[08:55] <witheld> My hard drive is /dev/sda
[08:55] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and  documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:55] <witheld> It just needs to decrypt sda5
[08:55] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and  documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:57] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and  documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:59] <shanemikel> has anybody used #ubuntu as an experiential reference for support job?
[08:59] <codernotz> uh
[08:59] <shanemikel> or another foss volunteer support role?
[08:59] <witheld> Fuck....I've got to leave on a two hour drive in four hours and no one has this issue and I can't find anything about it and I'm gonna have to reinstall again
[08:59] <codernotz> whats the issue witheld
[09:00] <witheld> It's decrypting the wrong drive. The root drive was sdb when I installed, and it's now sda. When I boot, it asks me for the passphrase for sdb5 which doesn't exist
[09:00] <witheld> So that just fails
[09:00] <Seveas> witheld: your /etc/crypttab is busted.
[09:00] <witheld> /etc/crypttab, alright
[09:01] <witheld> I can work with that
[09:01] <Seveas> mount the encrypted drive in a live system, mount its /boot as well inside it, fix that file and regenerate your initramfs
[09:01] <Seveas> can you work with that or do you need more detailed instructions? (no sarcasm intended)
[09:02] <witheld> Think so
[09:02] <Seveas> shanemikel: yes, I did that when I applied for a job at the company I currently work at.
[09:03] <codernotz> witheld did you try remounting sdb through recovery mode
[09:03] <codernotz> ?
[09:03] <Seveas> codernotz: that won't work if it doesn't exist :)
[09:04] <codernotz> oh so if it says sda .. try remounting that
[09:04] <codernotz> witheld
[09:07] <Spectre> So people are actually here, that's cool
[09:07] <cristian_c> odroid: done?
[09:18] <shanemikel> Seveas: if you don't mind what class/type of company is that, what role is it, and how did you present such references?
[09:21] <shanemikel> did you use irc handle references, github screennames, etc.. did you ask the folks for personal email/phone; what was the relationship you'd had with these people before (working on what?)
[09:24] <witheld> fixed it, thanks a ton Seveas
[09:30] <Seveas> witheld: you're welcome :)
[09:31] <Seveas> shanemikel: e-commerce, sysadmin. I grouped it under 'Volunteer Ubuntu support' together with loco activities and other Ubuntu work I did. No references used/requested.
[09:33] <ubuntu-mate> Okay booted live dvd and everything works.
[09:34] <ubuntu-mate> I will try to install catalyst on the live cd now?
[09:35] <ubuntu-mate> I guess I can't.
[10:02] <xpl0iter> Hi I want to assign mutiple ip addresses and server different webpages with each of it using apache. how do I do? What is it called?
[10:03] <NehezvoltRegelni> Hi! Is that normal, that on a 64bit ubuntu 15.10 apt-get always seems to try to donwload i386 packages?
[10:04] <NehezvoltRegelni> Just for a sample, apt-get install bb wants to install libaa1:i386 libcaca0:i386 libmikmod3:i386 libncursesw5:i386 libsdl1.2debian:i386 libslang2:i386
[10:04] <NehezvoltRegelni> but why?
[10:04] <cynixx3> NehezvoltRegelni, are you sure your on 64 bit?
[10:05] <NehezvoltRegelni> According to uname-a :Linux x220 4.2.0-18-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:25:50 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:05] <NehezvoltRegelni> cynixx3: i think i am:)
[10:05] <Humbedooh> are there 64bit versions of those packages?
[10:05] <NehezvoltRegelni> i was supposing that, but i'll check
[10:06] <cynixx3> also with those all being libraries maybe they are dependencies for a 32 bit program you installed.
[10:06] <NehezvoltRegelni> but i was trying to install other things, and i never saw :i386 this many times than since i'm using 15.10 (2 days)
[10:06] <Humbedooh> I've seen it on occasion where 32bit is the only available option
[10:08] <NehezvoltRegelni> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libmikmod3
[10:09] <NehezvoltRegelni> if i understand it well, it has amd64
[10:09] <NehezvoltRegelni> now i tried with "dia" it wants to install no :i386
[10:09] <NehezvoltRegelni> so maybe coincidence
[10:09] <cynixx3> any idea what program you installed that is using that library as a dependency?
[10:10] <NehezvoltRegelni> hmmmm, maybe the problem is even worse
[10:10] <F4GG07> what is the sexiest gui?
[10:11] <NehezvoltRegelni> cynixx3, Humbedooh it seems to be that the fault was the repository
[10:11] <NehezvoltRegelni> i was using one of the polish ones (no clue why the installer choosed that, i'm at hungary)
[10:11] <NehezvoltRegelni> now i changed to a german one, and it wasn't wanted to install :i386
[10:13] <NehezvoltRegelni> so now i might have a lot of :i386s that could be amd64
[10:13] <NehezvoltRegelni> do you have any idea how to replace them?
[10:13] <NehezvoltRegelni> sudo dpkg -l | grep :i386 | wc -l   ----> 175 :(


[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Tm_T: morning
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Tm_T: all ok with the meizu now?
[07:08] <Tm_T> hi yes
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> great
[08:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:08] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[14:08] <EriC^^> how's it going?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> fine mate tnx
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: tell me what you think if this barebone company i found? http://config.nexoc.de/
[14:13] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: never heard of nexoc before
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> me neither
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but i found default all disabled very attractive
[14:14] <EriC^^> do you know anybody that has one of them?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> no Os, no Hd
[14:14] <EriC^^> aha
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: no
[14:14] <EriC^^> wth it's expensive
[14:14] <EriC^^> ?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but i think they are clevo devices
[14:14] <EriC^^> 870euro for i5
[14:15] <EriC^^> i thought it's like alibaba
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: yeah but the problem is i need it barebone
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: this is the most configurable company i found
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> yet
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: and i also need it close to belgiump for delivery
[14:16] <EriC^^> if it's expensive though you should i dunno man
[14:17] <EriC^^> like people might not get it, or they'd get more hp dell etc
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: oh well, ill keep on searching then
[14:17] <EriC^^> unless you can get a really awesome deal, and you're sure of the build quality and stuff then i guess i dunno
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: the problem is i just dont want machines with a win license on the back
[14:18] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> i need it clean, no Os, no hd
[14:18] <EriC^^> and no ssd/hdd right?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> yep
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> im gonna tweak those myself
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> 850 pro
[14:18] <EriC^^> if you can score a deal with somebody in hp or dell etc or something
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: well thats another problem, i need not a whole lot, but 1 machine at the time, quick delivery
[14:19] <EriC^^> if you know somebody who works there or i dunno somebody who already buys them from them with no os
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i also dont wanna be part of a reseller, just quick 1by1 delivery
[14:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:20] <EriC^^> there has to be some stuff like this i'm sure
[14:20] <EriC^^> here i think they get laptops with no windows many times
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hard to find, i found also msi whitebooks, but only usa
[14:20] <EriC^^> and they used to install the cracked windows on them i think
[14:21] <EriC^^> if there's somebody who does that you can maybe email him and get in on it
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[14:21] <EriC^^> i was browsing a laptop site for leb recently and they had a laptop that said "os of your choice"
[14:22] <EriC^^> not sure if it was refurbished or not, let me check
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: kk tnx
[14:46] <EriC^^> cant find it
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: np mate ill keep on browsing stuff
[14:47] <EriC^^> this is a list of companies that sell laptops without os or with linux, there might be good deals, it's a little outdated though ( 2009 )
[14:47] <EriC^^> http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/23168/
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx


[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> i think we could possibly rearrange the "noroot" factoid slightly, i see more people asking for help with setting root than giving advice, which suggests the two parts fo the factoid could be reversed for that purpose (about asking comes before about giving help, in my suggestion)
[17:56] <TheLordOfTime> !noroot
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> i.e. "... please don't ask for help with setting a root password or provide instructions on how to set it. ..."
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> (that area being the only change.
[17:57] <TheLordOfTime> )
[17:59] <IdleOne> if anything I think it should be shortened to We do not support setting a root password.
[18:00] <IdleOne> most people have a hard time parsing more than 10 words
[18:01] <k1l> capslock and red blinking should help too
[18:01] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[18:01] <TheLordOfTime> shrinking to "We do not support setting a root password." would probably get the same effect either way.
[18:01] <TheLordOfTime> perhaps sayign "we do not support setting a root password within the support channels."
[18:02] <IdleOne> That could be read as, send me a PM and I'll help you bork your system
[18:04] <TheLordOfTime> true.
[18:05] <TheLordOfTime> in any case, it could either be shortened or reworded.
[18:05] <IdleOne> Simple fact IMHO is that people think root == admin, sudo == not as much of an admin.
[18:06] <IdleOne> So, instead we should explain to them that sudo is just as much root as root is
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> mhm.
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> tbh "admin" is "admin" either way, so...
[18:07] <TheLordOfTime> you know, i'm surprised we don't have a factoid that truly explains that, called "admin"
[18:07] <TheLordOfTime> but we might have some other factoid i'm not aware of :P
[18:30] <xnox> where are ubuntu-meeting schedules?
[18:30] <xnox> to check if it's available or not.
[18:31] <IdleOne> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar