 Awesome name if u ask me
[08:34] <nigelb> hola kim0 :)
[08:34] <nigelb> mornign dpm :)
[08:34] <kim0> dpm: howdy
[08:46] <dpm> morning kim0, morning nigelb!
[11:32] <czajkowski> akgraner: want new AW 03 ?
[11:47] <duanedesign> dholbach: is the mindmap you used during UDS-N packaging sessions on line anywhere? It was the one you used to show all the different areas of Ubutnu Dev.
[11:47] <dholbach> hang on
[11:49] <dholbach> duanedesign, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/Things%20to%20learn.png
[11:49] <duanedesign> :)
[11:49] <duanedesign> thank you
[11:49] <dholbach> de nada
[11:50] <duanedesign> dholbach: in the last few weeks we have had in increase in the number of people signing up for the Beginners Team who are interested in development
[11:51] <dholbach> nice
[11:51] <dholbach> we need to talk about screencasts :)
[11:51] <duanedesign> dholbach: We need more mentors experienced in Ubuntu Development
[11:52] <dholbach> mentoring is a hard topic
[11:52] <dholbach> mostly everyone who does development is busy doing development
[11:53] <duanedesign> right
[11:53] <dholbach> you can talk to huats about that
[11:54] <duanedesign> ok, thank you
[11:54] <huats> i am here :)
[11:55] <duanedesign> hello huats
[11:55] <huats> Hi duanedesign
[11:56] <duanedesign> huats: i was just mentioning to daniel that the Beginners Team has had an increase in the number of people interested in Ubuntu Development
[11:57] <huats> duanedesign, I can imagine that !
[11:57] <huats> duanedesign, currently the mentoring effort is almost stopped
[11:57] <duanedesign> huats: i am worried that we do not have enough mentors to help these people
[11:57] <huats> I have try several times to restart it
[11:57] <huats> but without success so far...
[11:58] <huats> it is the main problem...
[12:01] <duanedesign> we have been working with the bug squad to better integrate the Beginners Team with their existing mentoring efforts. More or less unifying the two.
[12:02] <duanedesign> huats: do you think a similar process with the MOTU mentoring program could help?
[12:02] <huats> duanedesign, why ot
[12:02] <huats> at least we could try it...
[12:03]  * duanedesign nods
[12:16] <duanedesign> dholbach: we need to get busy on some screencasts :)
[12:16] <popey> \o/
[12:16] <duanedesign> dholbach: i noticed you added to the packaging guide
[12:16] <duanedesign> :)
[12:17] <duanedesign> my first sttempt got derailed with some problems I had with testdrive
[12:35] <duanedesign> huats: ok if i email you about the mentoring?
[12:49] <huats> sure duanedesign
[12:50] <duanedesign> sounds great, thanks
[14:24] <dholbach> duanedesign, we do
[14:24] <dholbach> duanedesign, which topics do you think we should cover first?
[14:37] <duanedesign> dholbach: i was thinking. Getting set-up and Finding opportunities for the first one
[14:38] <dholbach> duanedesign, what about the "general introduction to ubuntu development"? it'd be more a video than a screencast, but how do you feel about it?
[14:40] <duanedesign> dholbach: that would be cool if we could make some nice graphics.
[14:41] <dholbach> hum, how do we best do that?
[14:41] <duanedesign> dholbach: i have not made any animations on Linux. I have made plenty for work using flash(though I would want to use opensource software)
[14:42] <jcastro> dholbach: I need a good picture of dylan mccall, do you have anything embarrassing?
[14:42] <dholbach> duanedesign, another option would be to DO a screencast, but show a presentation in libreoffice
[14:43] <nigelb> I have to tweet that one :P
[14:43] <dholbach> jcastro, just a sec
[14:45] <duanedesign> dholbach: yes that would probably be good way to handle it
[14:46] <dholbach> duanedesign, ok, I'm happy to work on that one as I'm working on presentation material anyway
[14:46] <dholbach> duanedesign, shall we start a thread about the others ones to come up with "scripts" for the videocasts?
[14:48] <duanedesign> dholbach: some input on the seperating of the contents into managable chunks would be helpful
[14:48] <dholbach> great
[14:48] <dholbach> there's a ubuntu-screencasts mailing list right?
[14:49] <popey> there is
[14:49] <duanedesign> dholbach: maybe once we start getting more specific with creating a script it will be more obvious
[14:49] <dholbach> I'm happy to start the conversation
[14:49] <duanedesign> sounds good
[14:50] <dholbach> so is it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:50] <duanedesign><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:50] <duanedesign> :P
[14:51]  * dholbach nods
[14:51] <duanedesign> i guess a simple yes would have worked
[14:51] <dholbach> on it
[14:51] <duanedesign> :)
[14:53] <jcastro> dholbach: we have a call today right?
[14:53] <dholbach> jcastro, 7m, no?
[14:54] <dholbach> duanedesign, sent
[14:55] <dholbach> duanedesign, I'll let you know once I'm done with the presentation material
[14:59] <dholbach> hey Guest31382
[15:01] <jono_> dholbach, kim0, jcastro, dpm all set?
[15:01] <dholbach> yep
[15:01] <jcastro> yeah!
[15:02] <dpm> yep!
[15:02] <jono_> one sec
[15:02] <kim0> yeah
[15:04] <kim0> jono_: hey
[16:01] <jcastro> jono_: you'll have a new dee in 11.04 in about an hour, when you get that, upgrade, log out/in, and the lens should work
[16:03] <jono_> jcastro, ok
[16:03] <jono_> cool
[16:03] <jcastro> "unity" in a terminal will also work, it just restarts unity
[16:03] <jcastro> if you don't want to lose work, etc.
[16:03] <jcastro> <--- off to lunch now
[16:07] <czajkowski> jcastro: can you fix the issue I have where unity just freezes :(
[16:09] <popey> czajkowski: see your sound bug updated?
[16:09] <jcastro> czajkowski: the new compiz upload should fix that
[16:09] <jcastro> czajkowski: let me guess, crashing all weekend?
[16:10] <jono_> jcastro, compiz has been held back for a few days
[16:10] <jono_> is that normal?
[16:11] <jcastro> it was held back until last night
[16:11] <jcastro> but it all needs to rebuild again
[16:11] <jono_> ok cool
[16:11] <jcastro> which will trigger another unity rebuild probably
[16:12] <jcastro> so basically today is like a thursday, all new things
[16:12] <jcastro> queue is about an hour on the builders, so say .... 3 hours or so before it's all sorted?
[16:13] <jcastro> <--- ok lunch for real now
[16:13] <popey> BARK BARK JCASTRO BARK BARK HELLO!
[16:13] <popey> (only did that to see if I could get you back to the keyboard away from your lunch)
[16:13] <popey>  /nick evilpopey
[16:15] <jono> jcastro, so new unity today?
[16:21] <czajkowski> popey: no....
[16:21] <czajkowski> jcastro: it's been like this since I installed it over a week ago. will do some updates and see if it imporoves
[16:24] <popey> czajkowski: there's been a comment on your bug
[16:24] <popey> today
[16:24] <czajkowski> popey: got a link.. please :(
[16:24] <popey> sure
[16:25] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/734427
[16:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 734427 in alsa-driver "[Realtek ALC660-VD] upgrade from Maverick to Natty causes loss of sound" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[16:25] <popey> pasuspender -- speaker-test -D plughw:Intel -c 2 -t sine
[16:25] <popey> wants you to run that
[16:28] <czajkowski> aye wqill do that tonight
[16:30] <czajkowski> popey: thanks
[16:30] <popey> np
[16:31] <czajkowski> the really annoying thing I find in natty atm is when I got to power down I keep hitting the other button where shut down used to be
[16:31] <czajkowski> and also my default browser has changed to FF
[16:39] <mhall119> change it back
[16:40] <czajkowski> I shouldnt have to on an upgrade it should go changing my defaults >:(
[16:40] <czajkowski> mhall119: but yes will have to
[16:40] <mhall119> I think it's something with the new FF4 package, I've seen others complain about it too
[16:41] <mhall119> possibly someone, in their haste to package it as soon as possible, didn't take it into account
[16:42] <jcastro> jono: it's just a rebuild
[16:42] <jono> jcastro, ok cool
[16:42] <jcastro> jono: when they upload a new compiz there's some ABI thing or something C++ blah blah
[16:42] <jono> so not pulling from trunk?
[16:42] <jcastro> it makes me head spin
[16:42] <jcastro> not until thursday
[16:43] <jcastro> but it's the same as thursday as in "your entire desktop will get upgraded today"
[16:43] <jono> np
[16:44] <jcastro> so I went to the farmer's market to get a salad
[16:44] <jcastro> because I want to eat healthier
[16:44] <jcastro> http://www.mini-babybel.com/
[16:44] <jcastro> but I just had to have these so I bought a bag.
[16:45] <jcastro> anyway cheese is amazing, that's all I have to add
[17:03] <popey> we have those in our fridge
[17:04] <popey> and usually it falls to me to construct a small man out of the wax once the cheese is eaten
[17:04] <popey> we had cheese for tea last night. just got a round of brie, put it in the oven (in its bamboo pot and some foil) and baked it for 30 mins ish
[17:04] <popey> then oozed it all over crackers
[17:04] <popey> \o/ cheese
[17:04] <AlanBell> nom
[17:09] <dholbach> alrightie - I'll call it a day - see you all tomorrow - HUGS!
[17:10] <kim0> UCD rocking with 220 attendees .. lovely :)
[17:10]  * dholbach hugs kim0
[17:10] <dholbach> good work!
[17:10]  * kim0 hugs dholbach  back
[17:11] <kim0> Thanks everyone for the help
[17:11] <jono> kim0, :-)
[17:19] <Technoviking> jcastro: salad? what is this salad you speak of?
[17:19] <Technoviking> :)
[17:20] <jcastro> Technoviking: well, it did have meat on it.
[17:21] <Technoviking> heh
[17:25]  * czajkowski had wild bore at the weekend
[17:25] <czajkowski> rather chewy and tasty
[17:27]  * Technoviking is buying a new gas/wood smoker combo grill this weekend.
[18:22] <jcastro> who's on 11.04?
[18:24] <mhall119> Technoviking: i love my smoker
[20:58] <jcastro> hah
[20:58] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/unity-2d/3.8-0ubuntu1
[20:58] <jcastro> best. changelog. ever.
[20:59] <czajkowski> jcastro: I'm on 11.04
[20:59] <jcastro> lovely
[20:59] <jcastro> I'll have a lens for you in a minute!
[20:59] <czajkowski> lens?
[20:59] <jcastro> a dash thing
[20:59] <jcastro> what were called places
[21:01] <czajkowski> ok
[21:12] <popey> see!
[21:12] <popey> seeeee!
[21:13] <czajkowski> noooo
[21:14]  * popey reboots into 11.04
[21:42] <popey> bah
[21:47] <czajkowski> popey: sup
[21:47] <jcastro> ok 11.04 folks
[21:47] <jcastro> ppa:askubuntu-tools/ppa
[21:47] <jcastro> add that
[21:47] <jcastro> and then install unity-place-askubuntu
[21:48] <jcastro> and then log out and back in (or restart unity with "unity" in the command line)
[21:48] <jcastro> and you should be set!
[21:48] <popey> al;t-tab crashes unity
[21:52] <jcastro> Joeb454: around?
[21:52] <jcastro> and/or Technoviking
[21:53] <jcastro> popey: czajkowski: ahh, compiz updates show up for me
[21:53] <jcastro> this is supposed to fix all that
[21:53] <popey> i updated mine just now
[21:55] <Joeb454> jcastro: what's up?
[21:55] <jcastro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712630
[21:55] <jcastro> suggestions for this ranch hand guy?
[21:56] <jcastro> I mean, I could reply with "where are your bug reports?"
 I can agree there, but he could make his point better without being quite so passive-aggressive
[22:03] <popey> sure
[22:03] <jono> czajkowski, it was an hour ago wasnt it?
[22:04] <czajkowski> always at 10 no ?
[22:04] <jono> czajkowski, just give me a sec and I will be free
[22:04] <czajkowski> no bother
[22:04] <jcastro> popey: well the guy is always posting his crackrock; I didn't just judge him based on that one post. It's his posting history
[22:05] <popey> ok, i only looked at that thread, sorry.
[22:05] <jcastro> one of those "well that never works so what you do is remove half the OS...." kinda things
[22:06] <popey> right
[22:11] <Joeb454> his posts aren't over any sort of line, but I agree they could be better
[22:12] <Joeb454> they're quite passive-aggressive at the minute. I imagine the reply to my actions will be less passive, sadly :(
[22:13] <jcastro> right
[22:14] <jcastro> I'm just saying, who would want to be involved in that discussion?
[22:14] <jcastro> he's derailed the thread, and his problems have nothing to do with the topic
[22:14] <jcastro> it's the same thing we have in ubuntu-users, people not technically violating the CoC, but doing just enough to ruin participating for people
[22:16] <Joeb454> it's difficult to deal with. In fact, it's the one part of the forum I dislike the most, having to deal with cases like that. A lot of people can't see what they're doing, and you have to word everything so carefully to avoid the response you don't want to get
[22:16] <Joeb454> but yeah, it does spoil it for others, at the end of the day
[22:18] <jcastro> Joeb454: right, on the other hand you have people who are like "it's sad that ubuntu developers don't read the forums"
[22:18] <jcastro> well gee, I wonder why! :)
[22:19] <Joeb454> 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other ;)
[22:19] <Joeb454> there's partial blame on both sides of that, IMO
[22:20] <Joeb454> well, blame isn't the right word
[22:23]  * jcastro blames popey
[22:26] <Joeb454> popey: are you in the same position as me? Most of the staff blame me if anything happens to the forum
[22:29] <jcastro> Joeb454: popey's in the same position, but for the entire project.
[22:29] <jcastro> buttons on the left, popey.
[22:30] <jcastro> czajkowski: almost done building
[22:31] <jcastro> when it's done just a normal upgrade should bring it in
[22:32] <nigelb> good morning :)
[22:36] <czajkowski> yay
[22:39] <jcastro> popey: are you on 11.04?
[22:39] <jcastro> czajkowski's getting a crash but I suspect her mirror is out o date


[08:13] <murph2481> everything is up to date and I am running dapper beta2
[08:14] <remnon> how can i check my kernel version ?
[08:14] <FauxFaux> uname -a
[08:15] <fatejudger> is anyone here able to use vnc4server in Dapper?
[08:15] <fatejudger> mine breaks on dependencies that aren't available
[08:15] <gil> here
[08:15] <gil> i get this error when i start up synaptic
[08:16] <yacoob> :)
[08:16] <gil> it says... child error
[08:16] <gil> child 1 error
[08:16] <gil> anyoneknow what this means
[08:16] <fatejudger> gil: I'd ask the people in #ubuntu, most of us use Adept here
[08:16] <yacoob> is there any reason for everything EXCEPT amarok playing sounds, on live kubuntu dvd? :D
[08:17] <fatejudger> yacoob: lack of codecs?
[08:17] <gil> ok
[08:17] <humbolt> what is the status of ltsp in dapper?
[08:17] <murph2481> what codecs do i need?
[08:17] <fatejudger> gil: you don't like adept?
[08:17] <humbolt> What version of ltsp is in there? Do we have support for local CDs, USB storage, floppy yet? What about sound support?
[08:17] <gil> no i dont mind adept
[08:17] <yacoob> fatejudger: is there a way to fix it, on live cd? :>
[08:17] <fatejudger> humbolt: when DIDN'T Dapper have support for that?
[08:17] <gil> i just have always used synaptic
[08:18] <gil> and now  something has made its config file corrup
[08:18] <fatejudger> gil: you ought to give Adept a try, you'd probably like it
[08:18] <fatejudger> yacoob: I wouldn't know, I've never used the Live CD
[08:18] <yacoob> Ah. Lemme rephraes that: what package is needed for the codecs?
[08:20] <gil> it wont let me start Adept in root mode either
[08:20] <gil> read-only mode
[08:20] <fatejudger> gil: you have to close synaptic first
[08:20] <antx> okay, I give up on those ati drivers. by all means, this is just too complicated. all those things one has to do...
[08:20] <fatejudger> lol
[08:20] <murph2481> figured it out
[08:21] <murph2481> needed gstreamer
[08:21] <murph2481> :)
[08:21] <yacoob> fatejudger: any hints?
[08:21] <fatejudger> yacoob: like I said, I've never used the live cd
[08:21] <yacoob> fatejudger: like I rephrased, which package contains the codecs?
[08:21] <fatejudger> yacoob: which sound system are you using?
[08:22] <yacoob> xine.
[08:22] <fatejudger> yacoob: win32codecs
[08:22] <yacoob> and libxine-main1 is in place.
[08:22] <fatejudger> !seveas
[08:22] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:22] <fatejudger> go there to get that package if you need it
[08:23] <yacoob> Righto, thanks.
[08:24] <humbolt> fatejudger: in LTSP!!!
[08:26] <remnon> hrmph.. still no luck
[08:26] <remnon> oh well.. i'm too tired to fiddle around with it anymore
[08:26] <remnon> cheers for all the help, you lot :)
[08:37] <ninHer> hi all
[08:37] <remnon> where can you check your KDE version ?
[08:38] <remnon> stupid questions, i know :( but i switched from GNOME to KDE and still trying to get the hang of this
[08:38] <Lorenzod> remnon: in any kde app: Help->About KDE
[08:38] <remnon> ah, cheers
[08:41] <udo> hello guys!
[08:41] <udo> I have a problem
[08:41] <TheNightRider``> udo, what is it?
[08:41] <udo> i installed firefox but it doesn't match my kde theme
[08:41] <Lorenzod> udo: it won't
[08:41] <TheNightRider``> agreed
[08:41] <udo> why not?
[08:42] <TheNightRider``> it just doesnt
[08:42] <Lorenzod> the best you can do is get a "KDE-ish" theme for it.
[08:42] <TheNightRider``> firefox has its own "Theme"
[08:42] <udo> what about other applications like the gimp?
[08:42] <Lorenzod> that will give you KDE-like icons
[08:43] <Lorenzod> udo: for gtk applications, make sure you install the gtk2-qt-engine
[08:43] <Lorenzod> or whatever it's called.
[08:43] <Lorenzod> it uses qt as a rendering engine for gtk widgets.
[08:45] <udo> ok I installed Lorenzod  what's next?
[08:46] <Lorenzod> Go to appearance and themes-> Gtk styles and fonts
[08:46] <Lorenzod> That will be in your control center
[08:47] <udo> it doesn't start
[08:47] <Lorenzod> udo: hm.. same here.
[08:47] <Lorenzod> I guess it might be broken atm.
[08:47] <Lorenzod> Can anybody else confirm this?
[08:47] <ganymed1> hallo
[08:48] <ganymed1> how can i make a shelll script that needs root privileges executable for normal users?
[08:50] <Lorenzod> ganymede1: are you sure you want to do this?
[08:52] <murph2481> so what are people's favorite RSS feeds?
[08:53] <Lorenzod> murph2481: I guess that depends on what type of information you are interested in..
[08:53] <murph2481> um just general tech (already use Digg, Slashdot, Delcious) just wondering what other people use
[08:53] <udo> does anyone have /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html for me?
[08:54] <murph2481> oh yea and engadget and gizmodo
[08:54] <jeff_> hey gangsters
[08:54] <jeff_> Raven301: from toronto are you?
[08:54] <Lorenzod> murph2481: in that vain, how about the register?
[08:54] <Lorenzod> jeff_: "yo, g!" ;-)
[08:54] <jeff_> lol
[08:54] <jeff_> yayuh
[08:55] <jeff_> we run this shit
[08:55] <murph2481> already got it and the inquirer :)
[08:55] <murph2481> maybe i have a good list already just wondering if there was one i was missing
[08:55] <jeff_> whenever i try to transfer files from my windows box in konqueror, the transfer rate always starts high and drops to zero
[08:56] <jeff_> any ideas?
[09:01] <ep> I'm experiencing freeze ups on shutdowns, this just started recently, perhaps after a dist-upgrade.  Looks like it's a problem with the tmpfs. Heres the messages: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/702237  Can someone help?
[09:03] <Lorenzod> ep: those messages about tmpfs don't necessarily indicate anything wrong..
[09:03] <Flosoft> how can I find out what Kernel I am using?
[09:04] <Lorenzod> Flosoft: in a terminal: uname -a
[09:04] <Flosoft> thx
[09:04] <Lorenzod> will give you quite a bit of info on just a single line ;-)
[09:05] <ep> Lorenzod: how do I get to the bottom of it?
[09:05] <Lorenzod> if you just want the kernel version: uname -r
[09:05] <Lorenzod> that is, IIRC
[09:06] <Lorenzod> ep: check your logs if there is anything suspicious there..
[09:06] <ep> Lorenzod: which log do I check?
[09:06] <Lorenzod> I'm not experiencing any lock-ups, but then again, you're using a different kernel
[09:08] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:09] <erov> hello
[09:09] <ep> Lorenzod: I haven't experienced lock-ups for the previous 7 months.  This just started occuring.  And once my comp just froze wouldn't respond to the keyboard ctrl-alt-fl or ctrl-alt-bckspc.  The only thing i knew to do was hit reset.
[09:10] <Lorenzod> ep: hm..
[09:10] <cycus_zwisus> when new kubuntu?
[09:11] <Lorenzod> cycus_zwisus: June 1, or so I hear.
[09:11] <cycus_zwisus> thanks
[09:12] <[1] Peter> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[09:12] <erov> anyone familiar with proper mpeg4 -> mpeg2video (dvd) conversion with ubuntu (or any linux platform really) ?
[09:13] <erov> the output video always displays incorrect length in players and when i go to make a dvd it's ALL mixed up
[09:13] <erov> but if you were to sit there and play it.. in a video player before hand it would play fine
[09:15] <ganymed1> Lorenzod: sorry, was busy for some time... still there? yes, i am sure, i know the risk
[09:18] <ganymed1> how can i make a shelll script that needs root privileges executable for normal users?
[09:19] <Blissex> ganymed1: it is a very bad idea. But do a web search for ''setuid shell script''
[09:20] <corey>          anyone know how to change the color depth (ie to 32bit)
[09:22] <ganymed1> thx
[09:32] <ganymed1> ciao
[09:33] <_pedro> Hi again
[09:34] <_pedro> I still am trying to configure correctly my printer hp psc 1315 all-in-one in Breezy
[09:34] <_pedro> I am going crazy...
[09:34] <_pedro> any help?
[09:34] <ep> The file '/var/log/boot.log' does not exist.  Where is the boot log or how do I get the system to create one?
[09:35] <macd> 'sudo touch /var/log/boot.log'
[09:36] <macd> but K/Ubuntu doesnt have a boot.log in /var/log
[09:36] <macd> try looking at dmesg/lastlog
[09:37] <madewokherd> how do you get root access on a livecd?
[09:38] <Blissex> madewokherd: 'sudo'
[09:38] <madewokherd> you don't need a password?
[09:38] <erov> _pedro: so where are you at in the process?
[09:38] <Blissex> madewokherd: usually not.
[09:38] <_pedro> ok
[09:38] <_pedro> I have probed with hpijs driver
[09:38] <_pedro> but it print very very slowly
[09:39] <_pedro> so I have removed that driver and install (with aptitude) hplip
[09:39] <_pedro> but I cannot add my printer
[09:42] <madewokherd> hmm, can you normally install things on a livecd environment?
[09:44] <Blissex> madewokherd: sort of, if it is a recent Knoppix
[09:44] <macd> madewokherd: well look at the way it works, it runs from the CD, and does not acess the harddrive.
[09:45] <madewokherd> I thought it might write changes to ram
[09:45] <macd> ehhhh, not quite
[09:46] <macd> you could reserve a area of your harddrive for a livecd partition, then install your programs there, but you might run into dependancy problems.
[09:46] <InfraRed> hi
[09:46] <macd> if you want more programs, just install linux and be on with it
[09:46] <madewokherd> that doesn't work well for python modules
[09:48] <viator> i install update-manager and update-notifier but it doesnt seem to notify me i need updates
[09:48] <viator> and i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to see if there were any
[09:48] <viator> and there are
[09:56] <antx> !ati
[09:56] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <steveire> Any recommendations for a p2p client?
[10:13] <robotgeek> steveire: which network
[10:13] <robotgeek> apollon is nice, ktorrent for torrent files
[10:13] <steveire> eh, the best one I guess...
[10:16] <Search4Lancer> apollon is the only one I've even seen...
[10:19] <admrl> http://admrl.kollide.net/anti-god.gif if anyone would like an button against godhatesfags.com i made one
[10:20] <robotgeek> admrl: please keep political messages away from this channel
[10:21] <admrl> robotgeek: sorry just trying to get them out
[10:21] <HymnToLife> tiens, qu'il se dmerde
[10:21] <HymnToLife> oops
[10:22] <HymnToLife> my X chat is so damn slow
[10:24] <steveire> I've selected apollon in adept. The description says it needs a gift daemon to be useful, but there isn't one selected. Should I select the gift package myself?
[10:24] <robotgeek> steveire: are you on dapper?
[10:24] <steveire> yes
[10:25] <robotgeek> steveire: please read the documentation in Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide (this is covered)
[10:25] <steveire> thanks
[10:25] <inc|freaky> hi all. im using kubuntu dapper on my laptop but it seems that even if i run cpuburn the CPU doesnt step up (switch to higher CPU frequencies) ... is there any solution? its on a Amilo M 1437G
[10:30] <Blissex> inc|freaky: use the 'conservative' governor
[10:30] <inc|freaky> Blissex: what do u mean? sry i dont understand that because im not english ;D
[10:33] <rvfh> sudo modprobe cpufreq_conservative
[10:34] <rvfh> Then use klaptop (the battery icon bottom right) to choose which governor you want...
[10:35] <thev> how can I stop a sudo cat?
[10:45] <antx> does anyone know a kontact related forum out there?
[10:47] <Ballison> could any one help me install linux nvidia graphics drivers, on kubuntu?
[10:48] <robotgeek> !nvidia
[10:48] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:49] <Ballison> ive tried that, i thought maybe it was for ubuntu
[10:50] <robotgeek> should work for kubuntu too
[10:50] <HymnToLife> Ballison> Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the same thing
[10:50] <Ballison> its asks for Synaptic Package Manager, and i have adept
[10:50] <erov> they are based on the same core distribution though.. the desktops are only thing different
[10:50] <Ballison> oh ok
[10:51] <rapchee> hi all
[10:52] <antx> you can install synaptic with adept if you like
[10:54] <robotgeek> Ballison: just do the same thing with adept, instead of synatpic
[10:55] <rapchee> could you tell me how to change the aviable resolutions and refres rates in screen resolutions?
[10:55] <Ballison> i was tryin that, having trouble findin 'Restricted copyright box'
[10:55] <Ballison> (sorry for asking all the time, its my first time on linux)
[10:56] <robotgeek> Ballison: are you on dapper?
[10:56] <rapchee> hey im worse
[10:56] <Ballison> breezy badger
[10:56] <rapchee> its not my first time but still keep asking BP
[10:58] <antx> go to system settings and then select display
[10:58] <Ballison> ok, im there
[10:59] <antx> I was talking to rapchee... sorry
[10:59] <Ballison> ahh, i think that was for rapchee
[10:59] <antx> ;-)
[10:59] <Ballison> haha
[11:00] <antx> on your problem I faild 3h ago myself, just with ati
[11:00] <rapchee> i have system/preferences/screen resolution preferences
[11:00] <rapchee> is it the one i should be looking at?
[11:00] <antx> and there you cant set such things?
[11:01] <rapchee> the problem is i need higher res and refresh rate
[11:01] <rapchee> max is 1024@60hz
[11:01] <antx> wait, you are under gnome?
[11:01] <rapchee> yup
[11:01] <rapchee> i think
[11:01] <carmelo> I to all.
[11:01] <rapchee> hi
[11:01] <antx> oh...
[11:02] <antx> I only know kde
[11:02] <carmelo> I'm looking for s.o. that can help me and my amilo m3438 with my microphone
[11:02] <carmelo> It doesn't work. But for audio and other stuff it's all ok
[11:03] <carmelo> there is s.o.?
[11:04] <orangey> hey al!
[11:04] <orangey> what is skim?
[11:05] <carmelo> ok, Bye!
[11:07] <Ballison> ok, im on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , @ bullet point 11
[11:07] <Ballison> but im using 64bit
[11:07] <Ballison> so none of the avalable options are there
[11:08] <Ballison> do you recon, ...modules - common, should work?
[11:11] <Ballison> ignore that
[11:11] <Ballison> i did it
[11:11] <Ballison> Is X meaning my pc?
[11:12] <Ballison> in konsole?
[11:33] <Ballison> ...i failed at getting the drivers to work
[11:44] <gebruiker> i have installed ksmoothdock
[11:44] <gebruiker> now I want to do the following
[11:44] <gebruiker> I know i can pass a geometry
[11:44] <gebruiker> i want to put the ksmooth dock ontop of the screen all the way above
[11:44] <gebruiker> is that possible?
[11:46] <gebruiker> or the panel is also good
[11:46] <gebruiker> hello
[11:49] <nagi> hello


[08:46] <davinci11> TeTeT : Hi TeTeT, when i try to attach /dev/vdc again,  it doesnt appear in /dev, what wrong ?
[08:47] <TeTeT> davinci11: does it appear with fdisk -l?
[08:47] <TeTeT> davinci11: and what command do you use to attach?
[08:47] <davinci11> TeTeT: no
[08:48] <davinci11> TeTeT $ euca-attach-volume $vol -i <INSTANCEID> -d /dev/sdb
[08:49] <TeTeT> davinci11: there comes something to my mind - if the device is now called /dev/vdb, the complete ebs based instance stuff might not work, as the loader emi expects sdb
[08:49] <TeTeT> davinci11: attach command looks good to me, you sure it's not on the instance? does euca-describe-volumes say it is attached?
[08:51] <davinci11> TeTeT: in hybridfox show attached
[08:56] <davinci11> TeTeT: VOLUME	vol-596C061F	 1		cluster1	in-use	2011-08-03T07:37:09.288Z
[08:56] <davinci11> ATTACHMENT	vol-596C061F	i-3565075E	/dev/vdc	2011-08-03T08:41:28.731Z
[09:01] <TeTeT> davinci11: so looks good, what's on the instance to see?
[09:06] <TeTeT> davinci11: or is this the final instance with ebs attached? Then I fear it will not work due to sdb vs vdc :(
[09:06] <davinci11> TeTeT: step6  echo “1,,L,*” | sudo sfdisk /dev/vdc
[09:07] <TeTeT> davinci11: ah, you're still preparing the volume?
[09:07] <davinci11> output: /dev/vdc: No such file or directory
[09:07] <TeTeT> davinci11: fdisk -l
[09:07] <davinci11> fdisk -l
[09:08] <davinci11> TeTeT : Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>96 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[09:08] <davinci11> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> Disk identifier: 0x000c9641
[09:08] <davinci11>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:08] <davinci11> /dev/sda1   *           1          32      248832   83  Linux
[09:08] <davinci11> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[09:08] <davinci11> /dev/sda2              32       19458   156039169    5  Extended
[09:08] <davinci11> /dev/sda5              32       19458   156039168   8e  Linux LVM
[09:08] <davinci11> Disk /dev/dm-0: 157.7 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>56 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19167 cylinders
[09:08] <davinci11> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:08] <davinci11> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[09:09] <davinci11> Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:09] <davinci11> Disk /dev/dm-1: 2122 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[09:09] <davinci11> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 258 cylinders
[09:09] <davinci11> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:09] <davinci11> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:09] <davinci11> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[09:09] <davinci11> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
[09:09] <davinci11>      Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:09] <davinci11> /dev/dm-1p1   *           2<PHONE_NUMBER>+  83  Linux
[09:09] <TeTeT> davinci11: oerks, what about paste bin?
[09:09] <TeTeT> davinci11: also this is not from an instance, it's from your client system
[09:09] <davinci11> paste bin ?
[09:10] <TeTeT> davinci11: no offense, but for getting anywhere with UEC you need to learn some basics first, I fear. Maybe visit a class on Linux/Unix shell and command line usage
[09:10] <TeTeT> davinci11: pastebin.ubuntu.com, you can copy'n'paste large volumes of text there
[09:10] <TeTeT> davinci11: so you don't spam the channel like above
[09:15] <davinci11> TeTeT: so the output ok? but yesterday when i attached /dev/vdc. it show when fdisk -l
[09:16] <TeTeT> davinci11: output is from your client system, not the instance. you need to ssh to the instance and check there
[09:16] <davinci11> TeTeT: but the same output from local machine (cc) when fdsik -l
[09:17] <davinci11> exit
[09:17] <davinci11> sorry wrong typing
[09:17] <TeTeT> davinci11: no idea what you're referring too right now
[09:21] <davinci11> TeTeT: same output from CC / using ssh from remote pc still get the same output
[09:21] <TeTeT> davinci11: no idea, I'm beat then
[09:32] <davinci11> TeTeT: Lol, i missed 1 step SSH :P can get in there and now can see /dev/vdi this time
[09:33] <TeTeT> davinci11: still you have the vdx vs sdx problem for the loader emi - no idea how to fix that
[12:14] <smoser> jamespage, ping
[12:14] <jamespage> hey smoser
[12:14] <smoser> have you, or can you, start full test of images ?
[12:15] <jamespage> I have not but I can
[12:16] <smoser> jamespage, Daviey, any one else, know of a reason that we should not test 20110802.2 ?
[12:18] <smoser> hearing none, jamespage go ahead.
[12:19] <jamespage> smoser: ack - I'll run a small cross region test first
[12:19] <jamespage> and then kickoff the big one
[12:19] <smoser> k
[13:17] <Daviey> smoser: that is our candidate.
[13:22] <jamespage> Daviey: good job - I just tested it!
[13:22] <jamespage> looks 99.95% good to me
[13:27] <Daviey> 5% is the "it doesn't boot"?
[13:27] <Daviey> jamespage:
[13:27] <jamespage> nope
[13:28] <jamespage> one test failed on the cloud-config tests - failed to mount ephemeral0
[13:28] <jamespage> but failed consistently for all instances of this test
[13:28] <Daviey> jamespage: do you test cluster compute?
[13:28] <jamespage> ah-ha - no
[13:28] <jamespage> smoser normally runs that sep.
[13:28] <Daviey> expecting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/791850 to still be valid
[13:34] <smoser> jamespage, oh yeah, we're still seeing bug 784937
[13:35] <smoser> i recently fixed a t1.micro issue where the entry was written to /mnt
[13:37] <jamespage> disk is definately xdve still
[13:37] <jamespage> http://paste.ubuntu.com/657935/
[13:39] <smoser> jamespage, right.
[13:40] <jamespage> that was it tho
[13:40] <jamespage> all other tests passed
[13:48] <Daviey> So three failures?
[13:48]  * Daviey needs to prepare the release notes.
[14:40] <gtaylor> erichammond: Have you ever compared the performance of the Alestic Ubuntu AMIs to Amazon's Fedora-based golden child?
[18:35] <erichammond> gtaylor: To be clear, the recent Ubuntu AMIs listed at the top of http://alestic.com are published by Canonical, not by me.
[18:35] <erichammond> gtaylor: Comparing performance for real world applications is difficult and I have not done it.
[18:37] <gtaylor> erichammond: Ah,I was wrongly assuming that Canonical was using Alestic AMIs.
[18:38] <gtaylor> erichammond: Well, another side question. Have you had any luck getting an EC2 instance running on 2.6.39+ with the newly merged built-in Xen support?
[18:38] <erichammond> I did publish Ubuntu AMIs for two years, and apparently did a ridiculously good job branding them :)
[18:39] <gtaylor> erichammond: Yeah, your Google page ranks are still sky high
[18:39] <gtaylor> and a lot of people still reference Alestic AMIs
[18:39] <erichammond> For a while, I kept getting people who meet me say "Eric Hammond is a really familiar name."  I pointed out that they saw it every time they logged in to one of the Ubuntu instances on EC2 (back then).
[18:40] <erichammond> I expect Google to continue liking me as I still publish unique and relevant content to the subject matter being searched.
[18:41] <gtaylor> Yeah, your blog posts are interesting to see for perspective
[18:41] <erichammond> gtaylor: I don't know what you're talking about with the Xen question, but I've been using stock Ubuntu AMIs from Canonical.
[18:43] <gtaylor> erichammond: We're in a weird dead period right now. 2.6.39 no longer requires external modules for domU support (which was one of the reasons why there are specific EC2 kernels being distributed). If I understand correctly, the next releases of many distros that use 2.6.39+ can ship a much more generic kernel that can be dist-upgraded like bare metal or more tolerant VM hosts.
[18:44] <gtaylor> But almost all AMIs I see run 2.6.35 or so with the kernel either pinned or pointed at an EC2-specific package name.
[18:44] <gtaylor> IIRC, canonical uses linux-virtual or something.
[18:45] <erichammond> gtaylor: I see. I let other folks worry about that kind of thing now and I just focus at a higher level :)  You could ask smoser and the gang over on #ubuntu-cloud
[18:45] <erichammond> It's almost noon, so I should head off to work...
[18:45] <gtaylor> erichammond: OK, thanks
[18:45] <erichammond> oh, we're on #ubuntu-cloud :-)
[18:46] <gtaylor> teehee
[18:46] <gtaylor> smoser: ^^
[18:46] <erichammond> (Usually when somebody addresses me directly it's over on ##aws)
[18:46] <gtaylor> ahh
[18:47] <erichammond> later
[18:48] <smoser> gtaylor, all ubuntu amis should "just work" for upgrades
[18:48] <smoser> in 10.04, we used the '-ec2' kernel flavour.
[18:48] <smoser> in 10.10 and beyond, we use '-virtual'
[18:48] <smoser> but, mostly '-server' would have "just worked" also.
[18:49] <gtaylor> smoser: Is it safe to dist-upgrade to new distro releases on EC2? I assumed it would be for Ubuntu, at least.
[18:50] <smoser> dist-upgrade meaning 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ? right?
[18:51] <smoser> (versus 'do-release-upgrade', which brings you from 10.04 to 10.10)
[18:51] <gtaylor> well, maybe I do mean do-release-upgrade
[18:51] <smoser> it should work.
[18:52] <gtaylor> smoser: Well that's good to know, thanks
[18:53] <smoser> both should work.
[18:53] <smoser> gtaylor, if you're using instance-store, you have reason to be more worried. :)
[18:53] <smoser> but ebs can be recoverred more easily
[18:53] <gtaylor> smoser: Nope, we're using EBS
[18:53] <gtaylor> smoser: though, I have reasons to worry about EBS, too :)
[18:53] <gtaylor> (ala, the great outage)
[18:54] <smoser> this is true.
[18:54] <smoser> gtaylor, so yes, i' would suggest doing a do-release-upgrade from within a screen session
[18:54] <gtaylor> yeah, that sounds like a good idea
[18:56] <smoser> jamespage, you have link to test results ?
[18:56] <smoser> did you run the big test?
[18:57] <gtaylor> smoser: Do you have any DB servers deployed on EC2?
[18:57] <smoser> i do not.
[19:32] <smoser> jamespage, ping please.


[15:08] <CarlFK> how do I in-target bash?
[15:09] <CarlFK> that gives me no ouput.  no idea where my input is going.


[15:16] <EvilRoey> hello all.  I just mistakenly (i.e. had issued do-release-upgrade -d) upgraded from 16.04 -> 17.04-devel; tried installing the latest VirtualBox package and got this: http://pastebin.com/zU8QuCzi  <-- how can I fix this?  I've asked in #vbox but don't see any replies so far.
[15:23] <ikonia> the most realistic thing would be to re-instal the ubuntu version you want
[15:23] <ikonia> running on a development version by "accident" is not the way to run
[15:24] <EvilRoey> ikonia: aye.... (and as someone who used to run debian's SID for years... yeah... I kind of agree)
[15:24] <EvilRoey> still though--if I can do this without having to resort to reinstalling, that would be ideal
[15:24] <EvilRoey> for me.
[15:24] <ikonia> you'll need to re-install
[15:25] <ikonia> there is no downgrade
[15:25] <EvilRoey> I understand that.
[15:31] <cskama> hi. anybody having problem with highDPI scaling in zesty? seems like all GTK3 apps round the scale factor after the upgrade
[15:32] <cskama> i.e. unity is scaled to 1.5 (like i set it) but firefox and geary are at 2.0
[16:37] <EvilRoey> reinstalled my OS from 17.04-devel to 16.10, and now VirtualBox appears to build the kernel module without errors. Yeay!  Thanks for your help!
[16:38] <EvilRoey> BRB
[20:25] <Dreaman> hot install kernel 4.10 rc5
[20:26] <Dreaman> haw