[17:52] <f3bruary> I can send them from ubuntu to phone successfully
[17:53] <Xpistos> Still getting errors - http://pastebin.com/9Z2ctEWk
[17:56] <py9371> lc987\
[17:56] <ikonia> Xpistos: remove files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:57] <DDANTAS> please - help
[17:57] <anakin_n> DDANTAS, with ? :)
[17:57] <tapple> how do I tell what files the package trickle installed?
[17:57] <wols> tapple: dpkg -L <package>
[17:57] <ikonia> tapple: how did you install it
[17:58] <tapple> aptitude
[17:58] <DDANTAS> isdb t
[17:58] <ikonia> tapple: check out wols advice
[17:59] <anakin_n> DDANTAS, isdb ? an tv standard ?
[18:00] <StepNjump_> Hi guys, yesterday I received an update from Ubuntu that caused my system to load up only in low graphics mode. I know there is no such thing as a system restore in Ubuntu. How could I possibly automatically repair the damage that this update caused?
[18:00] <mang0> I'm trying to get artisteer to work with wine. it's supposed to, but apparatnly I need to do some terminal stuff. I need to do the command "sh winetricks" but when I try it says: Can't open winetricks" why is this?
[18:00] <Xpistos> I deleted the files in it ran update and they are the sources.list.d folder is gone now
[18:00] <maccam94> is there a way to prevent fsck from running from grub?
[18:00] <ikonia> StepNjump_: you need to figure out what has happened and fix it
[18:00] <Xpistos> is that ok?
[18:00] <spyzer> what is the easiest method with GUI which can try to reapir a hard disk
[18:00] <spyzer> ?
[18:00] <ikonia> Xpistos: fine
[18:01] <yawnie> hi guys
[18:01] <ikonia> spyzer: what's the problem with it ?
[18:01] <yawnie> anyone experienced issues booting ubuntu from usb flash drive on acer computers?
[18:01] <ikonia> mang0: #winehq for wine support
[18:01] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip, hi. could i ask you a question?
[18:01] <mang0> ah okay
[18:01] <spyzer> ikonia, some bad blocks are detected
[18:01] <ikonia> yawnie: why don't you just ask the real question
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: many times
[18:01] <ikonia> spyzer: look at the badblocks program
[18:01] <dscorzoni> yawnie, how did you create de usb flash drive with ubuntu?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: wassup?
[18:02] <yawnie> i didnt, im on windows atm, trying to make bootable flash disk using unetbootin
[18:02] <dscorzoni> yawnie, I had problems with unetbootin... try to use the program recommended in the Ubuntu Download page...
[18:02] <spyzer> ikonia, but badblocks only checks the bad blocks who can try to repair those?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[18:03] <yawnie> oh, md5 sounds like a good idea
[18:03] <yawnie> dscorzoni: ill also try your hint, thankies
[18:03] <ikonia> spyzer: read the docs on badblocks it can try to resolve the issue
[18:03] <spyzer> ok
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | yawnie
[18:03] <dscorzoni> yawnie, you're welcome...
[18:04] <yawnie> ActionParsnip: thankies
[18:04] <Fjorgynn> how do I have dual monitors in xubuntu?
[18:04] <Fjorgynn> it says only "mirror"
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: which video chip do you have?
[18:05] <StepNjump_> Hi actionparsnip. You might be the only one that might help me here.... Listen, yesterday after I downloaded the latest automatic updates from ubuntu, my computer lost it`s audio and when I attempted to shut down, it wouldn`t even shut down normally. Maybe it was still installing. I don`t know. So I went to the terminal and performed a shutdown -r now and even THEN, it wouldn`t shutdown properly. When I rebooted, I got a message e
[18:05] <Fjorgynn> ActionParsnip: nvidia
[18:05] <Fjorgynn> nvidia gforce GT 330M
[18:05] <mynameisdeleted> foudn a happy root image to try
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: did you install nvidia-current ?
[18:06] <Fjorgynn> nah, not yet
[18:06] <Fjorgynn> only tried in live cd so far
[18:06] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip it wouldn`t allow me to boot up in high graphics mode. I have a feeling it`s more than my graphics video driver the problem but I could be wrong. I am running a Acer netbook with on-board Intel video card
[18:06] <Xpistos> ikonia: That appears to have done the trick thank you
[18:06] <ikonia> Xpistos: no problem
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait a little while then try a sound app like play an mp3 etc
[18:07] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip: I tried to boot up with previous version, tried a fsck, tried to blacklist the acer-wmi driver in blacklist.conf
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Xpistos: what was the magic bullet?
[18:08] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip yes but is this all caused by a sound driver?
[18:09] <Fjorgynn> :)
[18:09] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip that I won`t boot up?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: nvidia-current will give the driver you need. Restart X and it will be activated.
[18:10] <Fjorgynn> okay
[18:10] <Fjorgynn> so if I just plugin my second screen it will show up?
[18:10] <reaper> how do you get to the preferences on natty?
[18:10] <Fjorgynn> reaper: unity?
[18:11] <reaper> ubuntu
[18:11] <DDANTAS> I bought one Ez-TV ISDB t device and i don't how to install it.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: when you see the boot screen press Esc and you'll ser the boot messages
[18:11] <DDANTAS> i use the ubuntu 1.04
[18:11] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip: anything equivalent command for updating the intel video drivers like the nvidia?
[18:11] <reaper> I want to turn off the screen saver so it stops locking the screen.
[18:11] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[18:11] <StepNjump_> Ok, let me try actionparsnip
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: you can then run: nvidia-settings    and configure the display as you wish
[18:12] <Fjorgynn> :D
[18:13] <Fjorgynn> thanks!
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> DDANTAS: how does it connect to the system?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Fjorgynn: nvidia loves Linux
[18:13] <Fjorgynn> :)
[18:14] <Reaper> Is there a way to adjust the screensaver on this?
[18:14] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip, I can`t wait for ubuntu to come up with an equivalent to sysrest
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> Reaper: in settings
[18:14] <Reaper> how do I get to the settings?
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> dunno :D
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> I am not using unity
[18:14] <Reaper> lol
[18:14] <Fjorgynn> xfce <3
[18:15] <Fjorgynn> but type "settings"
[18:15] <Fjorgynn> or something
[18:15] <Reaper> ahh im using natty
[18:15] <Reaper> 11.04
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: not heard of sysrest
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: there is Natty xubuntu.
[18:15] <DDANTAS> connected in my usb port
[18:16] <Reaper> what's that?
[18:16] <Travis-42> Unity/Ubuntu 11.04 is very very slow for things like moving windows and switching workspaces. I have a very fast computer and it has never been this slow before. Any ways to get this working better?
[18:16] <alucardromero-w> Travis-42, do you have the graphic drivers installed (Nvidia/ATI)?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> DDANTAS: ok then run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device and you can use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[18:17] <Travis-42> alucardromero-w, yea
[18:17] <alucardromero-w> Which GPU do you have?
[18:17] <Travis-42> alucardromero-w, I have the nvidia drivers installed
[18:17] <alucardromero-w> Ah, okay... it's a bit laggy on my ATI-based workstation at work, I don't know why.
[18:17] <dury> hi there channel :)
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> Reaper: xfce is the main desktop envorinment in Xubuntu
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> that's the difference
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> and some programs
[18:17] <Fjorgynn> but it's the same system
[18:18] <alucardromero-w> Travis-42, sorry i couldn't help.
[18:18] <Reaper> yeah I have a mint versionof xfce
[18:18] <Reaper> *version of
[18:18] <dury> DVD RW SONY AD-5260S-0B SATA doesn't mount or doesn't appear in Natty
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: ubuntu is based on gnome. Xubuntu is based on xfce, so saying you use Natty doesn't tell us your desktop environment ;)
[18:18] <Reaper> ahh got cha
[18:18] <dury> Places or computer doesn't appear that device
[18:18] <Reaper> 1 sec ill check it out
[18:19] <Travis-42> it's a 9800gtx+. Not that fastest anymore, but seems like it should be fast enough to resize or move a window...
[18:19] <Fjorgynn> :)
[18:19] <dury> k3b doesn't detect
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Dury: does it show in the output of: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: if you click the power button in the top right you will se the settings there
[18:20] <dury> ActionParsnip: I have to check it out give me time please :)
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: i run a 6150 onboard and have no issues. Yours is way more powerful than minr
[18:21] <mokti_> Hey, I had a quick question
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mokti_: ask away
[18:22] <mokti_> Does anyone know why there is no C Shell in ubuntu by default
[18:22] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip, yea... there's clearly some issue... frustrating how slow basic tasks have become since upgrading :-/
[18:22] <tiago> i get this issue when trying to ssh Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[18:22] <tiago> any ideas what is causing this?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mokti_: do you mean use csh instead of bash?
[18:22] <Tigger__> hi
[18:23] <mokti_> yes, why isn't csh in ubuntu by default?
[18:23] <mokti_> or is it?
[18:23] <ikonia> mokti_: it's not a common shell any more , install tsch
[18:23] <mokti_> Is that the only reason it isn't included?
[18:23] <ikonia> mokti_: not common any more
[18:23] <al_nz1> I am trying to put a linux iso on USB with Unetbootin but getting a error loading kernel when trying to run from USB. Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: uninstall the nvidia driver, reboot then install nvidia-current and you should be ok
[18:24] <daan4711> hi!
[18:24] <mokti_> al_nzl: is there a specific error that appears?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> al_nz1: did you md5 test the iso you transferred?
[18:25] <Reaper> so I gues I have the gnome verson
[18:25] <al_nz1> Heya ActionParsnip: yes. i think its more a case of editing something in /casper to point to '/' ? instead of '/cdrom' ?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Reaper: more than likely yes
[18:26] <Reaper> i do, just installed the benchmark
[18:26] <Reaper> so the power button should show the settings?
[18:27] <Reaper> yep i see it
[18:27] <Reaper> thanx
[18:27] <daan4711> Q: I'am not able to set my wlan0 to master mode (AP), is there an alternate driver to do this? I'm using a Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> al_nz1: I've seen folks add bootoptions to make it not look for a cd. I forget what it is but it will show up in websearches
[18:28] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip, I kept rebooting pressing esc but the text disappears to fast. Can`t do it. I have the journals though if it may help
[18:28] <abstrakt> how do I find my processor model number?
[18:28] <abstrakt> like whatever I can see in the windows System Information accessory
[18:28] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: k ta
[18:28] <Fjorgynn> abstrakt: why?
[18:29] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip. I meant.. would be nice if ubuntu had something similar to system restore in win
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: try the bootoption: nomodeset   may help
[18:29] <sweb> is ubuntu 11.04 solve theme problem? theme automatically change to basic gnome theme
[18:29] <abstrakt> Fjorgynn, need to know if I have VT-x or not
[18:29] <abstrakt> wondering why IO-APIC doesn't work in vbox
[18:29] <bastidrazor> abstrakt: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:29] <abstrakt> s/wondering/and wondering/
[18:29] <abstrakt> bastidrazor, thx
[18:30] <digitalspark> hey
[18:30] <girl_> How do I install Gnome 3 is there a PPA for it?
[18:30] <Fjorgynn> abstrakt: neer heard of VTx-x ;o
[18:30] <abstrakt> bastidrazor, sweet that works quite well, thanks :)
[18:30] <ikonia> girl_: strongly advise you not to do that
[18:30] <sweb> http://forums.virtualbox.org/download/file.php?id=4387&sid=0556f8f3b5e0ac7725c9658489259312 looks like this. the GPU was installed
[18:30] <bastidrazor> abstrakt: you're welcome.
[18:30] <girl_> ikonia: why?
[18:30] <xangua> girl_: yes, but is not recomended to add it
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump_: i made my own. I usd partimage in livecd every now and again to backup my system partition
[18:30] <ikonia> girl_: because it's unstabloe and not supported
[18:30] <xangua> girl_: because it may breack your system
[18:31] <abstrakt> Fjorgynn, yeah, when you said "why", i figured it was probably above your head
[18:31] <girl_> girl: I don't mind I plan to run it on a test system for bug triage
[18:31] <ikonia> !gnome3 > girl_
[18:31] <ikonia> girl_: please don't ask for support with it or your system once it's installed
[18:31] <digitalspark> is it possible to use my external storage devices from virtual operating system??
[18:31] <ikonia> digitalspark: depends what virtualisation technology you're using
[18:32] <digitalspark> ikonia vbox from  oracle
[18:32] <ikonia> digitalspark: the open source version doesn't support it
[18:32] <tiago> I'm getting this message when trying to do ssh: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[18:32] <girl_> ikonia: of course not and I have no unity installed just kubuntu-desktop
[18:32] <tiago> anyone knows how to solve this?
[18:33] <girl_> ikonia: so it cannot break unity if it is not there!
[18:33] <ikonia> tiago: who runs the host your trying to connect to
[18:33] <StepNjump_> actionparsnip. thanks for your help but i spent all night trying to figure it out. today I am really busy so I will leave it on the shelves for now. Maybe one day I'll find the way
[18:33] <wols> digitalspark: yes it's possible with virtualbox 4.x however only at USB 1.1 speeds.
[18:34] <digitalspark> ikonia wht if i use virtual machine???
[18:34] <tiago> ikonia: the university
[18:34] <wols> ikonia: it does support it
[18:34] <ikonia> digitalspark: virtual machine is not a technology
[18:34] <ikonia> wols: the open source version supports USB connected devices now ?
[18:34] <zkam> did you all hear that Apple now has more cash on hand than the U.S. government?
[18:34] <ikonia> digitalspark: there you go, wols knows more,
[18:34] <wols> ikonia: since version 4. usb 1.1 only. no 2.0
[18:34] <ikonia> zkam: we don't care, it's offtopic
[18:34] <zkam> ikonia, she was just talking about Apple
[18:35] <ikonia> zkam: don't care - it's offtopic here
[18:35] <bert__> hallo
[18:35] <wols> ikonia: ther eis a "ext pack" at vbox.org tho which works on all OSes (don't ask me how) supposedly which enables usb 2.0 support
[18:35] <zkam> relax ikonia
[18:35] <girl_> Any guidelines for a .net vb.net and c# to transition development to linux. I don't mind learning new things.  I am interested in C++ and QT (QML) How long do you think it should take me to learn it. I have been devloping for years on Windows.
[18:35] <ikonia> zkam: I am, I'm just telling you to not poast that stuff
[18:35] <Guest62165> bye
[18:35] <ikonia> girl_: talk to mono developers
[18:35] <zkam> ikonia, I apologize... I apparently connected to the wrong room
[18:35] <zkam> I'll be off now
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> wtf windows 7 can only shrink my partition 12 GB
[18:36] <ikonia> Fjorgynn: control the language please.
[18:36] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: k ta
[18:36] <girl_> ikonia: I am not very keen on mono because of gtk
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> ikonia: -.-
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> is windows 7 bad language?
[18:36] <ikonia> girl_: ok, so you still need to talk to them about porting options
[18:36] <ikonia> Fjorgynn: no, "wtf" is
[18:36] <Fjorgynn> nah
[18:37] <ikonia> Fjorgynn: sorry, I'm exaplining to you it IS unacceptable langauge
[18:37] <Fjorgynn> neger
[18:37] <wols> ikonia: is it sunday already or why are they all out of the woodwork today?
[18:37] <ikonia> wols: holidays
[18:38] <girl_> ikonia: I do not wish to port existing apps. But get started developing on Kubuntu
[18:39] <ikonia> girl_: ok, then start learning the langage KDE is based on
[18:40] <digitalspark> ikonia can u tell me some vbox technology open source that supports it??
[18:40] <girl_> ikonia: kde uses C++, qt4 and some python scripting, how long should it take me to be familiar with C++?
[18:40] <ikonia> girl_: depends on your abiliy, it's not really an ubuntu support issue
[18:40] <ikonia> digitalspark: check out wols advice
[18:41] <digitalspark> i did not get!!!!!
[18:41] <girl_> ikonia: Are you a developer?
[18:41] <troy1> im having a problem with lock ups like my clicks will become unresponsive but i can move the mouse arround and apps will continue to run but any input i can't change windows etc. the only way i seem to beable to get out of it is a manual forced shutdown.. im using gnome 2 ubuntu class environment. is there anyway to tell whats causing it?
[18:42] <Eighteens> ok after doing a update, the system rebooted, and no sound card detected, tried running alsamixer same thing, no sound card detected, but i had sound before reboot, using ubuntu 10.04, can anyone help please
[18:42] <ikonia> girl_: sometimes
[18:42] <bullgard4_> '!sound | Eighteens
[18:42] <bullgard4_> !sound | Eighteens
[18:43] <yawnie> so much for md5 checksum and trying the universal installer
[18:43] <yawnie> the acer just stucks on blank screen with blinking cursor
[18:45] <wols> girl_: do you know what a pointer is?
[18:46] <girl_> wols: yes
[18:46] <girl_> wols: Why???
[18:46] <wols> girl_: then you have a chance with C++ :)
[18:47] <mokti> yawnie: what happened?
[18:47] <girl_> wols: like in c#?
[18:47] <quiescens> a pointer is a little arrow~
[18:47] <girl_> wols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointer_(computing)
[18:47] <ikonia> girl_: you may want to take this to a private message with wols
[18:47] <ikonia> girl_: this channels for ubuntu support only please.
[18:48] <yawnie> mokti: i am trying to install ubuntu via usb flash drive, but it won't boot... it ends up with black screen with blinking cursor
[18:48] <girl_> ikonia: ok
[18:48] <digitalspark> oh progamming classes
[18:48] <wols> yawnie: alternate installer?
[18:48] <Guest13826> hello
[18:48] <Eighteens> my computer only detects a dummy soundcard, i've tried looking at the forums, and i did have sound before update and reboot
[18:49] <yawnie> tried unetbootin, universal usb installer... i have acer 5742g with intel core i3-370 ... i have amd64 ubuntu iso
[18:49] <Guest13826> es mi pirimera ves utilizando linuz
[18:49] <wols> yawnie: it's not the installer which is the problem, it's ubuntu vs. your laptop
[18:49] <yawnie> wols: i guess so
[18:50] <wols> yawnie: use the alternate installer. and if that fails. disable kms and framebuffer
[18:50] <Guest13826> alguien que hable español para que me de indicaciones
[18:50] <wols> !es
[18:50] <Pici> !es | Guest13826
[18:51] <yawnie> wols: ok, i will give it a try, thanks
[18:51] <girl_> How can I improve performance of my Intel GMA 950 in natty... performance was better in maverick
[18:51] <girl_> I tried xorg-edgers but no improvement
[18:52] <ikonia> girl_: what xorg driver is it using ?
[18:52] <girl_> ikonia: the default in natty
[18:52] <ikonia> girl_: which is......
[18:53] <girl_> ikonia: I'm on windows right now
[18:53] <ikonia> girl_: ok, so come back on ubuntu
[18:53] <girl_> ikonia one moment please
[18:56] <yawnie> wols: is there any other way of downloading alternate installation than via torrent?
[18:57] <ikonia> yawnie: the main ubuntu.com website
[18:58] <yawnie> ikonia: ok, but it still leads to torrent links
[18:58] <ikonia> yawnie: didn't for me
[18:58] <yawnie> ikonia: alternate installer?
[18:59] <girl> xserver-xorg-video-intel	 2:2.15.0
[18:59] <Lasers> yawnie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[18:59] <yawnie> oh, that.
[18:59] <girl> ikonia: xserver-xorg-video-intel	 2:2.15.0
[18:59] <Lasers> I think the link doesn't need two "releases" in it. :O
[19:00] <ikonia> girl: sorry, I wasn't clear. make sure xorg is loading the intel module
[19:00] <rabe_> evening
[19:01] <girl> ikonia: it is loading the intel module
[19:01] <Guest59980> hello, i'm looking for a way to change keyboard keys, for example my new laptop has (disgustingly) the function keys (f1-12) as the secondary keys they-ve been replaced by media keys, i'd like to change this, i'd also like to have it so the calculator key links to a different program and such
[19:01] <ikonia> girl: how do you know
[19:01] <Guest59980> do you know of a wiki page or what i should be searching for, i'm not sure what the name of this is
[19:01]  * afrodeity front 242 rocks
[19:01] <ikonia> afrodeity: please don't post random stuff in this channel
[19:01] <afrodeity> hello ikonia, just got back
[19:01] <girl> kwin starts producing output obout the driver in use intel i8 something
[19:02] <girl> ikonia: acceleration works but it is just not as good as maverick
[19:02] <ikonia> girl: ok, there are multiple ones, such as the i810 and the intel module, which one is it loading
[19:02] <ikonia> girl: ok, there are multiple ones, such as the i810 and the intel module, which one is it loading
[19:02] <girl> ikonia: one moment please
[19:02] <girl> ikonia: i915/i945
[19:03] <ikonia> girl: that's not a driver name
[19:03] <afrodeity> sorry wrong channel, thought i had joined ubuntu-za
[19:03] <girl> ikonia: steps to find your "driver" name
[19:03] <ikonia> girl: look in the xorg log file
[19:03] <ikonia> girl: are you using an xorg.conf file /
[19:03] <girl> ikonia ok
[19:04] <girl> ikonia: no ... preconfigured xorg device
[19:04] <Alec2> hello, i'm looking for a way to change keyboard keys, for example my new laptop has (disgustingly) the function keys (f1-12) as the secondary keys they-ve been replaced by media keys, i'd like to change this, i'd also like to have it so the calculator key links to a different program and such (repost)
[19:05] <john_doe> I have two lan's (different subnet masks) with my ubuntu server on both via seperate if's. It works great. Now, is it possible to let the ubuntu server be a bridge such that the machines on the different nets can reach each others?
[19:06] <rabe_> is it possible to integrate updates in a live-cd (or usb stick)?
[19:06] <ikonia> john_doe: yes, iptables can act as a router to allow that
[19:06] <ikonia> rabe_: not really no, not without a respin
[19:06] <Alec2> lol @ john_doe you have a VERY generic name :P
[19:06] <rabe_> respin being?
[19:06] <ikonia> rabe_: the respin of a CD
[19:07] <john_doe> ikonia: great thanks! I know that iptables is a big and complicated thing. Could you give me a couple of keywords for google?
[19:07] <rabe_> that would be no problem
[19:07] <drake01> Alec2, I have seen this in dell machines. If this is the case with u, it can be configured from bios settings. Look for function key behavior. Even if its not from dell, you may give it a try.
[19:07] <ikonia> john_doe: iptables router should bring up some examples
[19:07] <john_doe> Alec2: yes :-)
[19:07] <ikonia> rabe_: how do you know that would be no problem when you just asked what a respin was
[19:07] <Alec2> drake01, that said, what about re-assiging other keys?
[19:07] <john_doe> ikonia: thanks again
[19:08] <rabe_> ikonia, language barrier :)
[19:08] <ikonia> john_doe: be aware of #netfilter channel too, good guys in there, iptable specialists
[19:08] <ikonia> rabe_: ok
[19:08] <john_doe> ikonia: :-)
[19:08] <rabe_> is there documentation on that?=
[19:08] <Alec2> hello, i'm looking for a way to change keyboard keys, for example my new laptop has (disgustingly) the function keys (f1-12) as the secondary keys they-ve been replaced by media keys, i'd like to change this, i'd also like to have it so the calculator key links to a different program and such (repost) (more assigning keys to commands)
[19:08] <ikonia> rabe_: why ? you know how to do it, you just said it's not a problem
[19:09] <rabe_> i meant that i'd still want to do it, but not how to
[19:11] <jwa> I created a custom .desktop file for an application; and when I try to place it on my desktop I get: "There was an error getting information about "/". The specified location is not supported". Clickint the entry in the app menu works, tho. (file is here: http://scrp.at/_0 )
[19:12] <Alec2> please don't make me repost again :/
[19:13] <ikonia> Alec2: don't then
[19:13] <girl> alec2: See this in uf tutorials and tips http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[19:14] <Alec2> thanks
[19:15] <troy1> im having a problem with lock ups like my clicks will become unresponsive but i can move the mouse arround and apps will continue to run but any input i can't change windows etc. the only way i seem to beable to get out of it is a manual forced shutdown.. im using gnome 2 ubuntu class environment. is there anyway to tell whats causing it?
[19:15] <girl> ikonia: sorry
[19:15] <natty-user> Hi, may I ask the difference between Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[19:15] <girl> ikonia: what was your last querry
[19:16] <ikonia> girl: forget it - sort yourself out
[19:16] <W43372> Can someone point me to a link for how to configure smb.conf in Natty?
[19:16] <girl> ikonia: thanks for your help
[19:16] <ikonia> !samba | W43372
[19:16] <troy1> natty-user: it is different packaged software, such as the window environments are different
[19:16] <natty-user> All I know is Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses GNOME, and Xubuntu uses Xfce.
[19:17] <troy1> natty-user: thats right other then that there isnt much if at all a difference
[19:17] <W43372> ikonia, would one of those links have an example smb.conf and which options I need to tweak?
[19:17] <Benkinooby> natty-user, in short: the base system will be exactly the same... so you will have the same software... it will jsut look different
[19:17] <ikonia> W43372: have you read the links ?
[19:17] <W43372> I just opened them ikonia, so no...
[19:18] <W43372> ikonia, I stupidly forgot to back up my smb.conf before I reinstalled.
[19:18] <ikonia> W43372: ok - so do you not think it's a bit insulting to ask for help, get given it then ask for more help before even reading the links that someones taken time to type ?
[19:18] <ahammond> I have an older laptop running 10.10. I basically just need terminals on the X desktop. Gnome and KDE are both overkill. How can I get a super light-weight desktop please?
[19:18] <natty-user> :Beninooby: So its safe to assume that they're just different visual themes?
[19:18] <Benkinooby> natty-user, xubunut uses xfce, the samllest and fastest of those you are mentioning. kde is know for being very complete and having a lot of settings you can change. gnome is generally know for being minimal and less  bulky tha KDE.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> !mini | ahammond
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, they are a bit more than that...
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, the menus will be organized in a different way
[19:19] <troy1> lol
[19:19] <ahammond> ThinkT510: I'm thinking specifically about the desktop / window manager stuff. Is there an easy way to get one of the old-school ones installed?
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, but you can test it... all the interfaces are just programms, like any other progrma to
[19:19] <jwa> troy1: why is there no awesomebuntu? :P
[19:19] <Benkinooby> natty-user, you can easily install and uninstall them
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | ahammond
[19:20] <Benkinooby> natty-user, so you can turn a ubuntu in a full xubuntu or kubuntu and vice versa
[19:20] <ahammond> thanks, I'll check it out!
[19:20] <natty-user> I've been using Ubuntu on an old PC for two years. I was wondering if the alternatives, especially the Xubuntu/Xfce maybe a better option?
[19:20] <Troy^> jwa: yes
[19:20] <Benkinooby> natty-user, xfce is faster
[19:20] <Troy^> xfce is very light-weight
[19:21] <Benkinooby> natty-user, i use fluxbox.. it is one of the fastest... but very minimal
[19:21] <Troy^> very customizable as well
[19:21] <Troy^> but im a hardcore gnome 2 dan
[19:21] <Troy^> fan*
[19:21] <natty-user> Will the software work the same? btw, I never heard of fluxbox. I'll need to look into that.
[19:22] <Benkinooby> natty-user, fluxbox is not really for beginners... it makes a lot use of key short cuts
[19:22] <Benkinooby> natty-user, i barely use the mouse
[19:22] <Troy^> natty-user: it all works the same its just different window environment and sometime more configuration is needed in the lighterweight
[19:22] <Myrtti> natty-user: lubuntu is fairly light, I'm running it on a relatively old machine
[19:22] <ThinkT510> natty-user: xfce is gtk based, it works fantastic, my favourite de
[19:22] <Benkinooby> natty-user, maybe, if you are coming from gnome, xfce will be a good thing for you
[19:22] <abstrakt> how can I change the screen resolution on the console?
[19:22] <jwa> Troy^: I meant the Awesome window manager not xfce
[19:22] <abstrakt> is that a grub thing?
[19:23] <ahammond> uh, so TWM is pretty much dead?
[19:23] <natty-user> Thanks guys, I'll download Xubuntu and try it.
[19:23] <Toph2> benkevan,,, is fluxbox a window manager. ?
[19:23] <abstrakt> natty-user, try openbox as well
[19:23] <Troy^> jwa: never used it or heard of anybody using it
[19:23] <Benkinooby> natty-user, wait...do you ahve ubuntu installed?
[19:23] <abstrakt> natty-user, and also have a look at FVWM
[19:23] <jwa> Troy^: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[19:24] <Benkinooby> natty-user, you can use gnome and xfce side by side and choose waht you like to use during log in
[19:24] <Troy^> natty-user: if you have ubuntu installed you can install xfce
[19:24] <abstrakt> natty-user, FVWM is basically wicked fast but requires lots of customization
[19:24] <Benkinooby> Toph2, yes, fluxbox is a window manager
[19:24] <Troy^> jwa: yea i'm looking at it now
[19:24] <Toph2> benkevan,,, ok,, thanks,, i hadn't heard of it either
[19:25] <adriano> one question: do you know if there is an italian channel to chat?
[19:25] <natty-user> How do I install them side by side, multiboot?
[19:25] <Benkinooby> Toph2, the cool thing of fluxbox is, that it can tab windows... so you can tab together independent windows... that's good for organzing your stuff if you have many windows open
[19:25] <oCean> !it | adriano
[19:25] <jwa> Troy^: I still need to try it out myself but I love the (non-)features :)
[19:25] <adriano> thanks a lot!
[19:26] <Troy^> natty-user: XFCE is in xubuntu but you can just install XFCE inside ubuntu its the samething
[19:26] <jwa> ./msg alis *ubuntu*
[19:26] <jwa> ^ woah
[19:26] <Toph2> benkevan,,, neat,, i'm just looking at some screenshots as well
[19:26] <Troy^> natty-user: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[19:27] <guntbert> abstrakt: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer ?
[19:27] <Troy^> natty-user: or if you prefer graphically http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xfce but the installations are the same
[19:27] <natty-user> @Troy^, Thanks for the links
[19:28] <natty-user> @Benkinooby: Thanks
[19:28] <Benkinooby> natty-user, you are welcome...
[19:28] <Benkinooby> natty-user, again, all things can be installed side by side... you can have fluxbox, xfce, gnome, kde installed in the same time and then choose what to use when you log in
[19:29] <Benkinooby> natty-user, i did that when i was looking for my favourite interface...
[19:29] <Troy^> yea and im still a gnome 2 user :P
[19:29] <ahammond> is there a simple process for switching a stock ubuntu install to Lubuntu?
[19:30] <Benkinooby> natty-user, btw, if you are playing around... i REALLY, recommend you to have a look at gnome-do or kupfer
[19:30] <jwa> 'nother question: I modified xdg-open with this patch: http://bit.ly/oMjBM5 and as far as I can tell this should work, I setup an uri with xdg-mime and a proper *.desktop handler, but when I try 'xdg-open xdebug:///var/www/phpinfo.php' it says "Error showing url: The specified location is not supported"..
[19:30] <Benkinooby> natty-user, they are application starters and also index some of your most used files... gnome-do or kupfer make the use of menus obsolete and you will find your files very fast
[19:30] <Benkinooby> natty-user, there are youtube videos on how they work and what they can do
[19:31] <Troy^> never heard of gnome-do
[19:31] <natty-user> Benkinooby: I'll look into those too, its good to learn more about linux. I've learnt much today. Thanks again. I'll be back after re-logging in :)
[19:31] <Benkinooby> Troy^, i's made for ... tatatataaaaa... gnome... but can be used somewhere else too.... persnoally i prefer kupfer
[19:33] <abstrakt> guntbert, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#Setting_different_framebuffer_resolutions_in_old_versions_of_GRUB doesn't help for new versions of grub tho does it?
[19:34] <dorgan> I have a tar file that is 174GB and I am trying to untar it however when it runs it only extract one 300 byte file
[19:34] <himcesjf> apt-get ugprade says - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 142 not upgraded. How do I upgrade packages not upgrade?
[19:34] <alpha> When I open my pictures folder, it always keep asking me if I want to synchronize the folder with ubuntu one. How do I make it stop asking this? (Ubuntu 11.04)
[19:34] <himcesjf> upgraded*
[19:35] <guntbert> abstrakt: its just a matter of where you apply the changes, the kernel parameters keep the same, so edit /etc/default/grub like stated at the beginning of that chapter
[19:36] <davro> himcesjf: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:37] <NoReGreT> i'm on lucid, and not able to sleep/wakeup, it always freezes with a black screen, any help ?
[19:38] <hilikus> NoReGreT: try getting an updated video driver.
[19:38] <NoReGreT> hilikus: my HP DV6 got a dual GPU AMD/INTEL
[19:38] <NoReGreT> and it is the latest AMD driver
[19:39] <oCean> himcesjf: did you run a sudo apt-get update before the apt-get upgrade command? Also, what version are you using?
[19:39] <oCean> !afk > ozior_away
[19:39] <fulluser> Hi
[19:39] <fulluser> I got my Ati rage 128 pro card to work
[19:39] <himcesjf> oCean: Yes. 11.04
[19:39] <hamnegga> my apt is all messed up.  If I issue an, "apt-get update", "apt get-upgrade", or anything.  It says, "Retreiving pacakage information (%0)" and stays at 0 percent, while my cpu processes go to about 80% and never resolves anything.  Anyone got any ideas
[19:39] <fulluser> How i can enable direct rendering
[19:40] <fulluser> and disable the mesa rasterizer
[19:41] <oCean> himcesjf: and the update command completes without any error?
[19:41] <hamnegga> anyone got any ideas?
[19:42]  * fulluser need help
[19:42] <hilikus> hamnegga:  possible repo's out of date, or incorrect.
[19:42] <aetas> hey guys, I removed the obnoxious overlay-scrollbar scrollbar but its still stayed active in some apps such as some of the scrollbars in Xchat as well as Eclipse (Java)...any ideas?
[19:42] <himcesjf> oCean: Yes
[19:42] <hamnegga> hello?
[19:43] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:45]  * fulluser is one step from getting fast gfx
[19:46] <oCean> himcesjf: and a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[19:46]  * fulluser NEEDS HELP
[19:46] <oCean> fulluser: please stop that
[19:46] <himcesjf> oCean: running
[19:47]  * ikonia is one step away from kicking fulluser from the channel for not asking a support question like a normal person
[19:48] <fulluser> I asked a question!
[19:48] <fulluser> and you ignored me
[19:49] <fulluser> here it goes again
[19:49] <ikonia> no, no-one knew the answer or was available to help
[19:49] <fulluser> How i can enable direct rendering
[19:49] <ikonia> fulluser: have you looked at that cards supported status in Ubuntu ?
[19:49] <Pici> fulluser: This channel is very busy, please ask your question all on one line so it doesn't get lost.
[19:49] <fulluser> And disable mesa software rasterizer
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: have you looked if the card is supported in Linux ?
[19:50] <fulluser> yes
[19:50] <Semitones> fulluser, a little context would help too
[19:50] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:50] <fulluser> there is a r128
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: is it supported ?
[19:50] <fulluser> yes
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: what drivers does it need ?
[19:50] <fulluser> r128
[19:50] <ikonia> fulluser: no, what drivers does it need
[19:51] <fulluser> r128 (Ati rage pro 128 ultra tf)
[19:51] <ikonia> fulluser: what drivers does it need to work in Linux
[19:51] <Cojage> how do i install gentoo
[19:51] <fulluser> And x loads the driver an all
[19:51] <ikonia> Cojage: ask in #gentoo
[19:51] <Cojage> j/k dont ban me
[19:51] <fulluser> they are named r128
[19:51] <ikonia> Cojage: please keep that sort of nosense out of the channel
[19:51] <ikonia> fulluser: ok - have you installed them ?
[19:51] <fulluser> yes
[19:51] <ikonia> fulluser: how did you install them ?
[19:51] <Figgis> Cojage, you here for support?
[19:51] <fulluser> and it works and i get full resolution
[19:52] <fulluser> they wher included
[19:52] <Cojage> figgis yes
[19:52] <fulluser> xorg-drivers-r128
[19:52] <Figgis> Cojage, and why aren't you reciving it?
[19:52] <wols> ikonia: xserver-xorg-video-r128
[19:52] <bane_> hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04 x64 bit, when my computer is inactive, when display goes to sleep, when I reactivate it, I can't see GUI any more, only black screen and mouse pointer, I am running Unity, and I must restart my laptop, what to do?
[19:52] <ikonia> fulluser: so you used the software additional drivers tool to enable it
[19:52] <john_rambo> I am trying to generate a apparmor profile for the FF 5.0.1 .....http://pastebin.com/b11jxuL9   << But I find no profile is generated
[19:52] <Cojage> lol
[19:52] <wols> ikonia: it's part of xorg since years immemorial
[19:53] <girl__> Cojage: refer to Gentoo's documention. Note this is an Ubuntu Channel please do not use it for gentoo support
[19:53] <ikonia> girl__: he just said it was a joke
[19:53] <fulluser> no
[19:53] <paddy_> does anyone know of a reason why unity disappears?
[19:53] <fulluser> I edited the xorg.conf
[19:53] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:53] <ikonia> fulluser: ok, have you looked in the additional drivers tool to see if there is a better option
[19:53] <fulluser> yes
[19:53] <fulluser> there is no other option
[19:53] <ikonia> fulluser: really, it doesn't show any
[19:54] <fulluser> i edited the xorg.conf
[19:54] <fulluser> no
[19:54] <ThinkT510> ikonia: his card is from the 90's
[19:54] <ikonia> I'm a little surprised on that
[19:54] <Figgis> girl__, either you're an idiot or you don't realize that Cojage was trolling you.
[19:54] <ikonia> ThinkT510: we still have some older drivers in the list
[19:54] <fulluser> and it works fine , i get full resolution
[19:54] <ikonia> Figgis: that's uncalled for - please drop it
[19:54] <davro> paddy_: I had issues big time with "unity" it was the reason I rolled back to 10.10 LTS !
[19:54] <fulluser> but glx info
[19:54] <himcesjf> Thanks davro, oCean :)
[19:54] <himcesjf> oCean: dist-upgrade worked with no errors
[19:55] <fulluser> still show Software raserizer
[19:55] <j0_0> I plugged an external hdd into my laptop a day or so ago. yesterday I performed updates ubuntu notified me of and after rebooting the system many of my files and programs were missing. the computer also booted the external hdd as it had made a /usr directory on it. why would this happen?
[19:55] <ikonia> fulluser: does that xorg driver support acceleration ?
[19:55] <davro> himcesjf no problem buddy
[19:55] <ikonia> (I genuinly don't know, hence asking, it's not a loaded question)
[19:55] <oCean> himcesjf: nice. Probably some kernel upgrade in there
[19:55] <paddy_> davro: i am thinking of going suse
[19:55] <photon> hi. I am trying to delete lots of files with + signs in their file names. I tried this: rm *+*, but rm complains: rm: invalid option -- '+' Try `rm ./'-+ (705)'' to remove the file. what can I do about that?
[19:55] <fulluser> how i can know if it supports acceleration
[19:55] <fulluser> ?
[19:56] <kamidi> fulluser: should it be configured to use 'ati' driver? see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:56] <ikonia> photon: \+
[19:56] <ikonia> kamidi: does that support such an old card ?
[19:56] <davro> paddy_: I am not sure i would go that far, personally I now stick to ubunt LTS releases or run debian, or linux mint !
[19:56] <fulluser>  Isnt ati a wrapper to the diferent drivers for ati card
[19:56] <fulluser> ?
[19:56] <kamidi> apparently r128 driver is wrapped into ati driver
[19:57] <kamidi> quote "This driver is actually a wrapper that loads one of the 'mach64', 'r128' or 'radeon' sub-drivers depending on the hardware.
[19:57] <abstrakt> guntbert, ok cool I will try that, thanks
[19:57] <ikonia> that's useful to know
[19:57] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> davro, let him try it ...he'll be back soon enough :)
[19:57] <abstrakt> paddy_, that's not a bug, it's a feature :P
[19:57] <abstrakt> feature of the new Unity OS
[19:58] <abstrakt> wahoo!
[19:58] <guntbert> abstrakt: you're welcome :-) (don't forget to run sudo update-grub after the edit) - btw you can try it without any changes to a grub file, just edit the kernel line in grub menu after booting
[19:58] <fulluser> How i can know if the driver support accelaration
[19:58] <photon> ikonia: that did not help. I think the problem is that the wildcard is being extended by the shell and the resulting file names are not quoted.
[19:58] <paddy_> abstrakt: i have used ubuntu for years now and i may switch to suse. i
[19:59] <fulluser> it should support 2d at leas
[19:59] <paddy_> unity does not show when i boot up anymore. my wallpaper is fine and a dropbox window opens and is usable. there is no panel or launcher. i have tried running 'unity' from commandline but it segfaults.
[19:59] <ikonia> photon: if the filename is test+name.file rm test\+name.file should work
[19:59] <JoshDreamland> Every time I install WINE, it associates sixty filetypes with Notepad and other stupid WINE programs. How do I undo that?
[19:59] <ikonia> photon: repeating the same question every 2 minutes will not help
[19:59] <ikonia> photon: please ask the question, wait a while to se if anyone knows, if they don't wait a while and ask later
[20:00] <hilikus> paddy_: try this: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[20:00] <abstrakt> paddy_, nah, just switch back to classic on the GDM screen
[20:00] <abstrakt> paddy_, you don't have to use unity
[20:00] <photon> ikonia: you obviously didn't read the question. but I have an answer, don't worry.
[20:00] <ikonia> photon: sorry, that was for paddy
[20:00] <ikonia> photon: apologies
[20:00] <ikonia> photon: typo
[20:00] <photon> np
[20:00] <abstrakt> paddy_, you can use fluxbox fvwm or something if you want
[20:01] <zombiex> How do i increase the size of partition allocated to ubuntu...I have 500 GB hard drive and 50GB for ubuntu.
[20:01] <benkevan> Toph2: Yes.. fluxbox is a WM
[20:01] <abstrakt> guntbert, actually the thing is tho
[20:01] <D34X> hello ^^
[20:01] <Toph2> benkevan,,, yup,, i downloaded it,, haven't looked at it yet
[20:01] <abstrakt> guntbert, that link doesn't work for me, cuz where do I find the docs for /etc/default/grub
[20:02] <abstrakt> guntbert, it's not the same syntax
[20:02] <davro> abstrakt arrrh fluxbox, blackbox those bring back some happy debian memories!
[20:02] <D34X> ## Furries
[20:02] <D34X> kiuhnbfvuhvf
[20:02] <ikonia> D34X: please stop
[20:02] <fulluser> hey
[20:02] <fulluser> it seems like my driver is supported
[20:02] <fulluser> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRage128?highlight=%28CategoryHardware%29
[20:02] <fulluser> :)
[20:02] <abstrakt> guntbert, how do I add kernel parms on the grub boot screen?
[20:03] <abstrakt> guntbert, just... like, start typing?
[20:03] <fulluser> how i get my pc to use dri instead of mese
[20:03] <fulluser> mesa
[20:03] <wols> fulluser: wrong question
[20:03] <abstrakt> fulluser, sell your ATI and buy an nVidia :P
[20:03] <davro> abstrakt pfft
[20:03] <Guest26170> neet help =/
[20:04] <Guest26170> identify
[20:04] <guntbert> abstrakt: select on entry, press <e>  (for edit), move the cursor to the end of the kernel line, start typing, press <ctrl>x when you are done
[20:04] <Guest26170> #identify
[20:04] <Guest26170> wtf
[20:04] <fulluser> no money
[20:04] <ikonia> Guest26170: control the language
[20:04] <abstrakt> guntbert, good to know, thanks, e and C-x, got it
[20:04] <blackcatnekonegr> hello I have  gnome  2.32.0 and My lcd monitor just keeps turning off after a few minutes. Happens even in terminal mode
[20:04] <fulluser> i will end up with a RIVA
[20:04] <thegladiator>  Ubuntu
[20:04] <thegladiator> How to install Mac fonts
[20:05] <guntbert> abstrakt: grub tells you the needed/possible keys too, when in the editing session
[20:05] <ikonia> blackcatnekonegr: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[20:05] <blackcatnekonegr> 10.10
[20:05] <D34X> Anyone know some stuff on nubuntu 7.10?  I know, it's the U channel, not N, but there isn't an N channel and I need help .-.
[20:05] <ikonia> D34X: not supported here, sorry
[20:05] <mokti> Is there an ISO that comes with GNOME instead of UNITY?
[20:05] <ikonia> mokti: no
[20:05] <Zachaeous> Guys..
[20:06] <Zachaeous> What channel do I got to for support?
[20:06] <ikonia> Zachaeous: support with what ?
[20:06] <benkevan> Toph2: http://www.picpaste.com/yayscreenshot-7lowI46Z.png < my flux
[20:06] <D34X> mental?  health?
[20:06] <ikonia> D34X: last warning
[20:06] <Zachaeous> ikonia: support for my mic
[20:06] <abstrakt> guntbert, yeah ok cool I see that now, thanks
[20:06] <ikonia> Zachaeous: with what OS ?
[20:06] <jlgaddis> Hey guys, I'm asking this for a free who's currently without Internet access, so this is the only info I have.  Any help you could provide would be appreciated!
[20:06] <Zachaeous> Ubuntu
[20:06] <jlgaddis> "Any of my Ubuntu friends happen to know where network manager happens to hide its comfing?  Logs indicate that nm is changing it's state back to down with a link to a bug report but I can't get online to look at it."
[20:06] <ikonia> Zachaeous: ask here, someone will help if they can
[20:06] <guntbert> abstrakt: you're welcome :-)
[20:07] <cache_surplus> sheshh
[20:07] <Zachaeous> ok.. mic doesnt matter cuz its same problem with both my mics.. the input WORKS but the audio is all choppy and breaky... any suggestions anyone? OS: ubuntu
[20:08] <blackcatnekonegr> I have  gnome  2.32.0 and My lcd monitor just keeps turning off after a few minutes. Happens even in terminal mode. I use gnome 10.10
[20:08] <blackcatnekonegr> eh ubuntu 10.10
[20:09] <abstrakt> ok cool decent res on the console, but how do I save that?
[20:09] <dli> jlgaddis, while you didn't report any specific info(error messages, logs, etc.), try another network-manager, wicd, remove nm package, reboot
[20:09] <r000t_nb> I can't decrypt my home folder.  I've been searching Google for the past hour and nothing has worked. I don't need anything in the folder, so how do I 'Blow up' and re-setup ecryptfs so I can start fresh?
[20:09] <abstrakt> guntbert, so now where do I put the vga=791 inside /etc/default/grub
[20:09] <blackcatnekonegr> ok I tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1222980
[20:10] <Zachaeous> Can someone help me with my mic please?
[20:10] <hilikus> jlgaddis:  try in term: ip link device wlan0 up
[20:10] <Zachaeous> anyone?
[20:11] <th0r> Zachaeous: crying might help, but stating the problem in a clear manner and waiting for someone who might know the answer will probably be easier
[20:11] <hilikus> opps sorry jlgaddis:  should be ip link set wlan0 up
[20:11] <hilikus> you may need to sudo that.
[20:11] <abstrakt> aight, nm
[20:11] <abstrakt> so
[20:12] <Zachaeous> th0r: Your ignorance offends me... scroll up... the problem is stated in a clear manner.
[20:12] <abstrakt> what window manager should I install on ubuntu, and will I require xdm/gdm/kdm? i forget
[20:12] <abstrakt> it's a virtual machine/server so I want it to be lightweight
[20:12] <wols> Zachaeous: your ignorance offends us too. not that we commented on it. until now
[20:12] <Zachaeous> wols: what ignorance did I display?
[20:12] <wols> abstrakt: usually the desktop oyu install installs one already. but you can install any other if you really want to
[20:12] <firmevato> i'm currently running ubuntu 10.04 but want to try some other flashdrive-bootable flavors of linux. Any suggestions?
[20:12] <jlgaddis> abstrakt: xfce or awesome are pretty lightweight and decent
[20:13] <wols> abstrakt: you don't need any DM either
[20:14] <Deithrian> Problem : I need an older version of Xine that supports vdpau, I have the deb files.The problem is that when i remove Xine it removes Kaffeine as well, when i install the old version of Xine with vdpau support i then need to install Kaffeine.But when i install Kaffeine the Software Manager Automatically updates Xine to the latest version which doesn't support vdpau.... Is there a way to prevent the software manager from updating libxine when i install
[20:14] <Deithrian> Kaffeine?
[20:14] <dli> abstrakt, try slim instead of gdm/kdm
[20:14] <Zachaeous> wols: I had a feeling you would ignore that question. Next time you try to speak in a condescending way, think before hand.
[20:14] <blackcatnekonegr> Back
[20:15] <th0r> Deithrian: it is called 'pinning' in synaptic if I remember correctly
[20:15] <wols> Zachaeous: you should think before you insult people you want help from. ever thought of that?
[20:15] <Deithrian> th0r: ok i will take a look thanks o-o
[20:15] <SCATTERSHOT> hey whats up
[20:15] <wols> Zachaeous: good luck. you will need it with your attitude
[20:15] <riboflavin> hello good torrent client for linux ??
[20:15] <Zachaeous> wols: Your ignorance offends me. I do not want help from the likes of you.
[20:15] <th0r> riboflavin: deluge or transmission
[20:16] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway, I have tried several metods for my lcd to not turn off , but then I had to decide I wanted the video driver to work, and then my lcd turns off and flash screws my display
[20:16] <Deithrian> th0r: thank you ^^ there is a "Lock version" which i think will do the trick :)
[20:16] <wols> blackcatnekonegr: disabled DPMS?
[20:16] <riboflavin> thx
[20:16] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, buggy display driver?
[20:17] <blackcatnekonegr> "(17:16:34) wols: blackcatnekonegr: disabled DPMS?" I unsitalled gnome energy program and even  the screensaver thing, the lcd still turns off
[20:17] <blackcatnekonegr> basicaly, it seems I have to find a way for my lcd to belive I am doing something, or it turn off on its own
[20:17] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, what about: xset s off
[20:18] <blackcatnekonegr> I think I will use pastebin, wait a minute
[20:18] <good_pie> When using ubuntu (libvirt/kvm) for virtualization in a multi-server arrangement with iSCSI/LVM shared storage, does anybody know if there's a good way to keep the same guest from starting on more than one node concurrently?
[20:18] <Reaper> So is it possible "alt tab" through programs you have running?
[20:18] <wols> blackcatnekonegr: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jTIW5TIwZHAJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D121061+disable+dpms+ubuntu&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com  for example
[20:19] <th0r> Reaper: it is in xfce
[20:19] <Reaper> How about gnome?
[20:20] <oCean> good_pie: have you tried #kvm channel?
[20:20] <crazy2k> Any user of Shotwell + Picasa? I like having all my pictures in the same place ordered by date, and do tag them according to the trip or place. It seems Picasa organizes photos a bit different; you have to create albums. If I want to share all the pictures with a tag to Google+, I have to create an album with all those pictures and make it visible, right?
[20:21] <hilikus> reaper: alt-tab works
[20:21] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, also, try xset dpms force off
[20:21] <good_pie> oCean, not yet, that's my next stop
[20:21] <blackcatnekonegr> here is my problem http://pastebin.com/BYrQ4gCN and by the way I used goggle for 2 months and I hasent able to fix the problem.
[20:21] <Reaper> sorry, guess I should have tried before asking lol.. im an idiot today
[20:21] <Reaper> well more then usual I guess lol
[20:21] <oCean> good_pie: I understand what you want, but I have no answer :(
[20:23] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, pastebin: xset q
[20:24] <blackcatnekonegr> and sudo xset -dpms doesnt seem to do anything, nor does uninstalling  gnome power manager and screensaver stuff, the lcd monitor still turn off, must be built for windows system and there is a signal or something gnome/linux ubuntu does not sent to it.
[20:25] <blackcatnekonegr> here is my problem http://pastebin.com/BYrQ4gCN
[20:26] <good_pie> oCean, no problem, thanks for your response
[20:26] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, what about xset q
[20:27] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:26:44) dli: blackcatnekonegr, what about xset q --how I do that?
[20:27] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, run the command 'xset q' in terminal
[20:28] <blackcatnekonegr> ok I will sent you the pastebin in a minute
[20:29] <blackcatnekonegr> here, look at the end for the command results: http://pastebin.com/ALkvTe4b
[20:29] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, also, for sake of troubleshooting, remove the powermanager package you are running (gnome-powermanager)
[20:30] <r000t_nb> Is there a reason why 1GB in 584773 files takes longer to transfer than one 1GB file?
[20:30] <blackcatnekonegr> removing it doesnt do anything
[20:30] <r000t_nb> Between disks?
[20:30] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, so, DPMS is disabled
[20:30] <blackcatnekonegr> but I will if you want
[20:30] <julianrabe> hi
[20:30] <julianrabe> this is the fifth channel i hope i will get help on
[20:30] <wols> r000t_nb: yes. 584000 files have a LOT of metadata
[20:31] <frostschutz> r000t_nb: lots of overhead, lots of seeks
[20:31] <blackcatnekonegr> so, is there a lubuntu channel around?
[20:31] <r000t_nb> So it's the same as with HTTP transfer?
[20:31] <wols> !lubuntu
[20:31] <julianrabe> im trying to set up a .deb-repos, everything works, but the gpg-signing. am i right here?
[20:31] <dr_willis> blackcatnekonegr:  #lubuntu or here
[20:31] <blackcatnekonegr> ok
[20:31] <r000t_nb> Because Dropbox has a similar problem and I proposed that very small files are zipped into 10MB .tar files and sent that wat
[20:31] <frostschutz> r000t_nb: in http you'd have to make a separate request (and worst case even a new connection) for each file
[20:31] <blackcatnekonegr> cause I plan to install it in a netpc, but its not urgent
[20:32] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:29:49) dli: blackcatnekonegr, also, for sake of troubleshooting, remove the powermanager package you are running (gnome-powermanager)--program unistalled. now removing package
[20:33] <mang0> What's a trusty image host that's not going to go down? I need to use it as a header for my blog.
[20:33] <blackcatnekonegr> ehh, what are the packages names for gnome power manager in synaptic?
[20:33] <wols> mang0: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:34] <mang0> wols. Lol, but srsly.
[20:34] <r000t_nb> mang0, What's your blog host?
[20:34] <r000t_nb> mag0, Get a Dropbox account, and put the file in your Public folder
[20:34] <mang0> r000t_nb: oh
[20:34] <mang0> I've got dropbox
[20:34] <mang0> good idea
[20:34] <mang0> thanks
[20:34] <r000t_nb> yw
[20:34] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, gnome-power-manager
[20:34] <dr_willis> ubuntu one is handy :)
[20:35] <goodhumperdink> Quick Question: What version of Linux is Ubuntu 10.04.3 using?
[20:35] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:32:37) blackcatnekonegr: (17:29:49) dli: blackcatnekonegr, also, for sake of troubleshooting, remove the powermanager package you are running (gnome-powermanager)--program unistalled. now removing package--package removed
[20:35] <wols> goodhumperdink: packages.ubuntu.com is very knowledgeable about such things
[20:36] <POVaddct> goodhumperdink: 2.6.32
[20:36] <goodhumperdink> Thanks POVaddct :)
[20:36] <tck9> anyone here using apticron?
[20:36] <tck9> is it possible for it to report just security updates instead of all system updateS?
[20:36] <julianrabe> no idea of setting up .deb repositories?
[20:37] <blackcatnekonegr> So while I am at it, any text editor for linux that is good for writers? Cause I need a bit more than Openoffice or libreoffice, as my English just sucks
[20:37] <blackcatnekonegr> So, any more stuff I can do to focr my lcd minitor to be on until I turn it off?
[20:38] <wols> blackcatnekonegr: there are localizations for many many languages for *office...
[20:38] <SCATTERSHOT> hey anyone know any good links or anything to help me learn to customize my desktop
[20:38] <ikonia> !eyecandy | SCATTERSHOT
[20:38] <KWhat_Work> when installing a deb directly do you need to save the deb for installation as with rpm's ?
[20:38] <KWhat_Work> uninstllation *
[20:38] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, what gui do you use?
[20:38] <blackcatnekonegr> wols I need a text editor that helps to fix my awful english
[20:38] <mrdeb> KWhat_Work: yes or open
[20:38] <ikonia> KWhat_Work: you don't need to save the rpms to uninstall, you don't need to save the debs to uninstall
[20:38] <blackcatnekonegr> gnome  2.32.0
[20:38] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, remove all screensaver packages :(
[20:39] <SCATTERSHOT> k thnx
[20:39] <dli> blackcatnekonegr, I use lyx for typesetting, and vim for pure text
[20:39] <KWhat_Work> ikonia, mrdeb: thanks
[20:39] <SCATTERSHOT> i know i have to remove or do something with unity so where can i go to get like a wiki on it or something
[20:40] <blackcatnekonegr> I need a text editor with awesome grammar/spell checking
[20:40] <ThinkT510> !classic | SCATTERSHOT
[20:40] <coz_> blackcatnekonegr,  mm  focuswriter has an efficient spell checker,,  but y ou want just a text editor
[20:40] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, did you try system/prefernces/power management?
[20:41] <SCATTERSHOT> ok yeah i remember that much now that u mention it i seen on a youtube vid or something
[20:41] <blackcatnekonegr> ok, screensavers removed, any stuff you need me to pastebin to see if is fine now?
[20:41] <Gasseus> umm... I think I found a linux kernel memory corruption fault in the kernel version natty currently uses primarily. Where should I report it?
[20:41] <ThinkT510> !bug | Gasseus
[20:42] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:40:54) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, did you try system/prefernces/power management?--that was the first thing I did, lcd monitor keep turing off, power manager removed
[20:43] <ThinkT510> blackcatnekonegr: you removed it? you're meant to change the settings
[20:43] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, do you have an other gui installed... just to see if it is gnome or the ubuntu system
[20:43] <blackcatnekonegr> someone here told me to remove it
[20:43] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, remove wahtß
[20:43] <Benkinooby> what?
[20:43] <fulluser> anyone can help me to enable DRI for my card
[20:43] <blackcatnekonegr> gnome power manager
[20:44] <coz_> !dri
[20:44] <dajxd> is it possible to make a bootable windows install in ubuntu with unetbootin?
[20:44] <predatore> Can anyone tell me why my KDE manager is gone after uninstalling compiz?
[20:44] <blackcatnekonegr> but even with "never" the lcd still turned off
[20:44] <fulluser> yes
[20:44] <fulluser> i mean that
[20:44] <blackcatnekonegr> so it is not a big deal
[20:44] <fulluser> it says on dri web site my card is supported
[20:45] <blackcatnekonegr> so, any stuff I should paste bin to check that my lcd wont turn off?
[20:45] <predatore> Is anyone available to help me with a quick UI problem?
[20:45] <sw0rdfish> hey guys....I have mysql server that probably got installed while installing lamp...and I can't access it
[20:46] <blackcatnekonegr> http://pastebin.com/bh5z6eM1
[20:47] <fulluser> but chacked the xorg logs and it says AIGLX: screen doesnt support DRI
[20:47] <thauriswulfa> HELP:touchpad scroll bar not working tried installing  synaptic dkms package but its not working
[20:47] <ThinkT510> predatore: what do you mean by kde manager? kdm or kwin?
[20:47] <fulluser> an the it loads the software rasterizer
[20:47] <ewook> sw0rdfish: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[20:47] <fulluser> how i can fix it , to get 3d acceleration
[20:48] <predatore> @ThinkT510 All I currently can see is the box the windows are in: I have no menu, no sidebar, no title bars to move windows with.. its all gone. Can't even use CTRL+ALT+T to open terminal =\
[20:48] <predatore> It happened after I uninstalled Compiz package.
[20:48] <ThinkT510> predatore: you need to launch kwin
[20:49] <ThinkT510> predatore: kwin --replace
[20:49] <predatore> How do I open terminal?
[20:49] <coz_> predatore, ctrlalt+t
[20:50] <coz_> predatore,   ctrl+alt+t
[20:50] <predatore> its not doing anything =\
[20:50] <fulluser> r> Hi
 How i can get Dri to wok my card
 it is supported
 but AIGLX fails and loads the software resterizer
[20:50] <FloodBot1> fulluser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <coz_> predatore,  are you on Unity?
[20:50] <coz_> predatore,  click the symbol in upper left corner,, type in terminal
[20:50] <predatore> I'm on a background with windows without title bars no menu and no side bar. there is nothing, only happened to get here by right clicking desktop and clicking help which opened web browser.
[20:51] <ThinkT510> coz_: he is in kde and just uninstalled compiz
[20:51] <coz_> oh!
[20:51] <predatore> Yeah... Thats right :) Now what.. lol
[20:51] <coz_> predatore, ` do you still have the kde menus?
[20:52] <predatore> Sorry, no I guess that is not accurate. I do not see any window management at all. Just the windows themselves.
[20:52] <predatore> No menu bar nothing...
[20:52] <coz_> predatore, what about alt+F2
[20:52] <BunnyFooFoo> does anyone know how to force a program to use a specific network interface?
[20:52] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, did you skim thourgh dmesg?
[20:53] <predatore> Alf F2 does nothing either.
[20:53] <arpad2> I'm having some broken dependencies , can smb help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/654737/
[20:53] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:52:46) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, did you skim thourgh dmesg?v--ehhh what?
[20:53] <predatore> I guess it was Unity that I was in after I uninstalled Compiz but after I restarted (because it wasn't acting right) it came back booted up with nothing...
[20:53] <coz_> predatore,  then I am definitly puzzled,, did you reboot already?
[20:53] <predatore> Yeah, 1st time.
[20:53]  * fulluser needs HELP , asked a question but got ignored
[20:53] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, open a terminal, type 'dmesg' an see if there is something about pwer saving or stuff like that
[20:53] <astraljava> fulluser: Have you tried Additional drivers in System | Administration?
[20:54] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, best thing is, if you let your monitor to get turned off automatically and then check dmesg
[20:54] <fulluser> MY driver is detected and loaded
[20:54] <blackcatnekonegr> mmm
[20:54] <fulluser> but software rendering is used
[20:54] <blackcatnekonegr> I DO NOT WANT MY MONITOR TO TURN OFF ON ITS OWN!
[20:54] <blackcatnekonegr> Sorry, I kind of snapped
[20:55] <Benkinooby> never mind
[20:55] <predatore> I guess i'll try to restart again :) Thanks for trying. I'll probably be back...lol
[20:55] <astraljava> fulluser: Okay, can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if any)?
[20:55] <fulluser> instead of dri - DRM
[20:55] <fulluser> ok
[20:55] <blackcatnekonegr> want the paste bin of the dmesg stuff?
[20:55] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, yes
[20:55] <predatore> maybe try to select a window management system on startup to see if its not completely gone or uselected or something, I'm not sure, dont' know too much about this stuff :)
[20:55] <astraljava> fulluser: And please, please, have patience. This is a busy channel, with not nearly enough helpers to help-needing ratio.
[20:55] <predatore> lol hard reset, no buttons =\
[20:56] <predatore> Help fulluser, he seems lost too
[20:56] <frankbro> Where should I look to get support for a touchscreen such as 2 finger scrolling, hold finger right click and virtual keyboard on text areas?
[20:57] <JohnnyFive> Hello, i'm having an issue with Natty. I installed it, and when it boots it goes to a black screen, no prompt. I can SSH into the box and run commands, but the actual box shows nothing. Originally it showed just a blinking cursor, so in SSH I tried "update-grub2" and now i'm at a completely blank screen. ANy thoughts?
[20:58] <ewook> JohnnyFive: if ssh is on, you're way passed grub.
[20:58] <felipe_Brz> What do I have to do to enable a user I've just created to run 'mkdir' and 'rm' even outside of his 'home' folder?
[20:58] <sw0rdfish> ewook, woops just saw that, ok thanks I will read it :D
[20:58] <ewook> JohnnyFive: sounds more like general gfx issues. tried altering terminal?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: it needs to be a member of the admin group so it can use sudo
[20:58] <ewook> sw0rdfish: lol. just tried to scroll to see if you responded :p.
[20:58] <JohnnyFive> ewook, altering? as in switching to another terminal?
[20:58] <sw0rdfish> hehe :D
[20:59] <sw0rdfish> it says if you've never set a pass it should work let me try that
[20:59] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip:  admin group? Not 'sudo' group?
[20:59] <ewook> JohnnyFive: yes. alt+fX will do that for you.
[20:59] <JohnnyFive> ewook, duh. That worked. Weird. Any idea why it would just boot into a blank screen like that?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: no, in ubuntu its the admin group
[20:59] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, did i miss the link?
[20:59] <ewook> JohnnyFive: sounds like X11 issues, and I'm no good with X11 :(
[20:59] <sw0rdfish> ewook, it says if you've never set a pass it should work let me try that
[20:59] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[20:59] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ERROR 1045 (28000) after doing that ^^
[20:59] <ewook> sw0rdfish: oh.
[20:59] <JohnnyFive> ewook, yep, ok ty sir!
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: if you su to a user who can use sudo and run:  groups    you will see
[20:59] <ewook> sw0rdfish: *_* wow.
[20:59] <ewook> JohnnyFive: np!
[21:00] <blackcatnekonegr> http://pastebin.com/H6cSpa2q
[21:00] <blackcatnekonegr> there
[21:00] <sw0rdfish> so I guess I'll just "reset" a new password, the thing is I don't remember setting a password but maybe I once did....oh well who cares I'm just trying to make my very first php project :D
[21:00] <ewook> JohnnyFive: there's plenty of others more involved with X11 than me, so simply re-construct your question later on.
[21:00] <BunnyFooFoo> does anyone know how to force a program to use a specific network interface? e.g. force telnet to use eth1 instead of eth0
[21:00] <JohnnyFive> ewook, well you pointed me in the right direction, I think I know what's up now.
[21:00] <ministerdude> Any way to revert back to default? Now my whole computer isn't recognizing usb or my thumb drive
[21:00] <ewook> sw0rdfish: did you try to do a simple mysql -u root (while having a root shell) ?
[21:01] <blackcatnekonegr> (17:59:26) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, did i miss the link? (18:00:06) blackcatnekonegr: http://pastebin.com/H6cSpa2q
[21:01] <ewook> JohnnyFive: great :)
[21:01] <blackcatnekonegr> it was just a lot of text
[21:01] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, got it... looking at it
[21:01] <ewook> sw0rdfish: and does it prompt you for a password?
[21:01] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: The thing is that I'm using Filezilla, and I need to login as a user who can do these things I told you, but it can't be the root because Filezilla doesn't allow it.  I'm not sure whether the filezilla client will know it must type in 'sudo' every time it need to create a directoty or something like that
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> sw0rdfish: if you are resetting your SQL password you can use this: http://brainextender.blogspot.com/2008/08/reset-mysql-superuseradministratorroot.html
[21:02] <Predatore> Well that didn't work.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> felipe_Brz: then you will need to change the file ownerships etc so that the user has the right amount of access
[21:02] <blackcatnekonegr> yeah
[21:03] <Predatore> I think I uninstalled the UI. Is there a command line at boot that will reinstall the UNITY thing?
[21:03] <blackcatnekonegr> just set that folder and everything in it to be owned by the user
[21:03] <ewook> Predatore: do a apt-search show ubuntu-desktop
[21:03] <Predatore> Because right now I cannot open anything that isn't already created for me by either right click or menu from a program.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Predatore: sudo apt-get install unity
[21:03] <fulluser> Ok
[21:03] <Predatore> I can't get to terminal
[21:03] <Predatore> Unless terminal is a file.
[21:04] <Predatore> ...
[21:04] <astraljava> Predatore: `sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop`, or kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE
[21:04] <ewook> Predatore: if it shows something, you could simply run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:04] <blackcatnekonegr> use the terminal emulator
[21:04] <ewook> astraljava: thanks, forgot the --reinstall
[21:04] <felipe_Brz> ActionParsnip: thank you
[21:04]  * fulluser has posted th logs about the problem with the video card
[21:04] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, do you use experimental video drivers?
[21:04] <Predatore> Gahh I cant get to terminal. Shortcuts dont work. Dont know where else to look to start it
[21:04] <ewook> sw0rdfish: and the --reinstall goes for you too (aptitude --reinstall mysql)
[21:05] <astraljava> fulluser: Mind sharing the link here, please?
[21:05] <ewook> sw0rdfish: wish me luck, migrating my mysql now ;)
[21:05] <TameableExpert_> hey, anyone here familiar with RANCID?
[21:05] <blackcatnekonegr> "(18:04:28) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, do you use experimental video drivers?" I use nvidia driver,  in linux its almost the same as that O_-
[21:05] <fulluser> Xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> TameableExpert_: the band?
[21:06] <felipe_Brz> Predatore: that happened to me once. If you boot into recovery mode there's an option to start ubuntu with the most basic graphics, then you can reset unity I guess
[21:06] <blackcatnekonegr> that thing has just beenache after headache
[21:06] <astraljava> ewook: For aptitude, you won't need --, it's just `sudo aptitude reinstall <package>`
[21:06] <blackcatnekonegr> *headache
[21:06] <Predatore> How to boot into recovery mode?
[21:06] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, so you use the ones offered in the ubunut standard repos?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> astraljava: aptitude isn't in a default installl nowadays
[21:06] <fulluser> astraljava http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:06] <TameableExpert_> ActionParsnip: No. Really Awesome Cisco confIg Differ
[21:06] <blackcatnekonegr> (18:06:20) Benkinooby: blackcatnekonegr, so you use the ones offered in the ubunut standard repos?---does this have to do with my lcd turning off?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Predatore: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select netroot
[21:06] <felipe_Brz> Predatore:  for me, I can choose between recovery mode and normal mode at boot time
[21:06] <ewook> astraljava: oh. not used to aptitude, thanks mate.
[21:06] <Predatore> thank you.
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> TameableExpert_: I see
[21:07] <TameableExpert_> It monitors network devices
[21:07] <Predatore> Thanks again
[21:07] <fulluser> http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:07] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ActionParsnip thanks guys....well forgive me I'm heating dinner so I couldn't respond faster
[21:07] <blackcatnekonegr> Cauyse every time I try anything with nvidia driver its just a pain in the ass. So I really dont want to mess with that, it already screwed flash.
[21:07] <niles|iPod> happy sysadminday!
[21:08] <niles|iPod> http://t.co/y9TbCqb
[21:08] <sw0rdfish> ewook, but yeah I only tried doing sudo mysql -u root
[21:08] <ministerdude> Ubuntu now not recognizing usb
[21:08] <sw0rdfish> ewook, should I su into sudo first
[21:08] <TameableExpert_> YAY! Sisadminday!
[21:08] <TameableExpert_> thats me!
[21:08] <ewook> sw0rdfish: it's 23:07 here, so dinner sounds late ;). sudo su is an easier solution
[21:08] <ewook> TameableExpert_: my condolances.
[21:08] <TameableExpert_> lols
[21:08] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, you don't need to repeat my question... just put my name to your answer so that it gets highlited for me... the point is: if you use the ones from the standard ubuntu repos they are well tested and don't have bugs. if you use some bleeding-edge software, dowloaded from a ppa or even compiled yourself, you are on your own, because it is not standard and therfore the source of errors could be everywhere
[21:08] <sw0rdfish> ewook, dude its 23:08 here too lol
[21:09] <sw0rdfish> ewook, I'm working out so I need my proteins can't skip dinner just cuz tis late :P
[21:09] <ewook> sw0rdfish: Italians... :p.
[21:09] <blackcatnekonegr> both type od drivers have screwed me
[21:09] <blackcatnekonegr> but again
[21:09] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, they might have bugs, but people might know about them if they come from the standard repo
[21:09] <blackcatnekonegr> does that have to do anything with my lcd turning off?¿
[21:10]  * fulluser needs help
[21:10] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, could be...
[21:10] <blackcatnekonegr> well
[21:10]  * fulluser problem logs : http://pastebin.com/m46Ly4ct
[21:10] <RenatoSilva> what's the shortcut for the command executor (like win's start > exec)?
[21:10] <astraljava> ActionParsnip: I know, but ewook referred to it. Just thought I'd lend a hand if someone used it.
[21:10] <ewook> fulluser: stop saying you need help, and post your question instead.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> astraljava: thats cool. was just a friendly fyi ;)
[21:10] <blackcatnekonegr> NVIDIA Driver Version: 260.19.06
[21:10] <guntbert> ewook: sw0rdfish: if you *really* need a root shell use sudo -i to get it (not sudo su), and don't forget to leave it a soon as possible
[21:11] <Deithrian> Is there a libxine1 with vdpau support somewhere?
[21:11] <blackcatnekonegr> every time I try to change the NVIDIA Driver I get in a world of pain
[21:11] <astraljava> fulluser: Did you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere?
[21:11] <fulluser> how i get direct rendering to work (Dri - DRM) instead of mesa software rasterizer
[21:11] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, why i am asking about the driver is because your dmesg log show a big amount of nvidia driver problems...
[21:11] <astraljava> ActionParsnip: No worries, totally understood. :)
[21:11] <fulluser> i missed it
[21:11] <fulluser> wait a sec
[21:11] <fulluser> sorry
[21:12] <astraljava> fulluser: Not a prob. Just that the log wasn't really helpful, need more info.
[21:12] <blackcatnekonegr> well, I have tried every driver ubuntu has and the one NVIDIA have,
[21:12] <ewook> guntbert: the -i simply gives you a false shell, and not really to be recommended in all cases.
[21:12] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, you said the monitor even turns off in console mode... please go to console mode and type "ps -A" and paste the output
[21:12] <blackcatnekonegr> if you know one that wonty crash my pc I would really be happy
[21:12] <sw0rdfish> ewook, ci mi amora
[21:12] <ewook> guntbert: sudo is not one of my favorite solutions..
[21:12] <guntbert> ewook: not true, it is the one where the environment is set in a sane way
[21:12] <ewook> sw0rdfish: haha :p.
[21:12] <blackcatnekonegr> I cant copy paste in terminal mode
[21:13] <ewook> guntbert: sudo isn't sane to begin with :p.
[21:13] <blackcatnekonegr> in the real terminal mode I mean
[21:13] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: You can `ps -A | pastebinit`, I presume. It should give you a link to the created entry.
[21:13] <ewook> blackcatnekonegr: add an > filename to the command, and you'll get the output into a file instead.
[21:14] <guntbert> ewook: thats not true either but we are getting off topic discussing "sanity-values" - so lets drop it :)
[21:14] <ewook> astraljava: oh, pastebinit? sweet :p.
[21:14] <ewook> guntbert: I hear ya ;)
[21:14] <sw0rdfish> oh crap I forgot my root passwd anyways
[21:14] <Benkinooby> pastebinit is the best! i even have a script to do that with images :D
[21:14] <RenatoSilva> alt+f2 is not calling run app, help please
[21:14] <riddler> What is the name of the screen or what is it called where it shows up when you turn on the computer before the GRUB2 screen?
[21:14] <astraljava> ewook: Stuck around the channel for a while, learnt cool new tricks. :) Way clever.
[21:14] <skiy1337> Would anyone like to try out my program?
[21:14] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, ok, for now, jsut do "ps -A" and paste it plz
[21:14] <ewook> astraljava: been away for awhile, so thanks for the new info - much appriciated!
[21:15] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway, if you are saying  NVIDIA Driver is the problem, anything I have tried with that thing just gave me more problems
[21:15] <RenatoSilva> my bottom-left button to minimize all windows disappeared out of nothing, help
[21:15] <astraljava> !ot | skiy1337
[21:15] <felipe_Brz> Is there a 'default' FTP Server software for Ubuntu?
[21:15] <ewook> felipe_Brz: in my time it was proftpd
[21:15] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, it was just a possibility... please paste the output of "ps -A"
[21:15] <astraljava> !ftpd > felipe_Brz
[21:15] <BunnyFooFoo> Benkinooby: tell him to use pastebin for ps -A
[21:16] <blackcatnekonegr> http://pastebin.com/4vtQzRuQ
[21:16] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: did you really set one? (it is never needed)
[21:16] <fulluser> http://pastebin.com/bPb98HzN
[21:16] <blackcatnekonegr> trust me, NVIDIA is just awful in linux
[21:16] <fulluser> Xorg.confg
[21:17] <fulluser> http://pastebin.com/bPb98HzN
[21:17] <fulluser> Xorg.cong
[21:17] <coz_> conf
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> guntbert, if you're refering to my mysql well I've never used it before
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> so well I didn't set a passwd
[21:17] <bakarat> i have a friend who has ubuntu and after installation he boots up, but the pc always hangs; if he presses the power button, it resumes booting, any clues what it can be?
[21:18] <abatoo> /w 7
[21:18] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: After trying to use ATi proprietary on linux, nVidia is bliss.
[21:18] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: no, I was referring to your statement 4 minutes ago (...forgot...)
[21:18] <sw0rdfish> oh guntbert yes I did set a root passwd before
[21:18] <blackcatnekonegr> ok
[21:19] <blackcatnekonegr> then how come
[21:19] <sw0rdfish> and I think I've forgotten it before too lol, and now it seems I even forgot how to reset it
[21:19] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, it seems your gnome power manager is not running... so it's not a gnome thing
[21:19] <blackcatnekonegr> everyone has problems with NVIDIA in linux?
[21:19] <sw0rdfish> I think, "passwd root" should reset it for me
[21:19] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: reboot into recovery mode, get a root shell
[21:20] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, btw, does your monitor (hardware) have some kind of power save function?
[21:20] <blackcatnekonegr> ok I will try to use driver 96, once my pc crashes. I will use safeboot and see you guys again
[21:20] <blackcatnekonegr> its a lcd
[21:20] <Utopiah> hi #ubuntu
[21:20] <ThinkT510> Benkinooby: he removed gnome power manager, thats why it isn't running
[21:20] <RenatoSilva> my bottom-left button to minimize all windows disappeared out of nothing, help
[21:20] <RenatoSilva> alt+f2 is not calling run app, help please
[21:20] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Re-disabling your root account
[21:20] <fulluser> @astraljava http://pastebin.com/bPb98HzN
[21:20] <blackcatnekonegr> a generic lcd
[21:20] <Benkinooby> ThinkT510, ok, thx
[21:21] <Utopiah> is there an utility that checks via the webbcam a user posture to make sure his back is well positionned?
[21:21] <blackcatnekonegr> unless I cheat it to think I am doing stuff it turns off
[21:21] <sw0rdfish> why thank you Gunirus
[21:21] <sw0rdfish> guntbert,
[21:21] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: you're welcome :-)
[21:21] <blackcatnekonegr> and if I could make it to not turn off just pessing a button in the lcd, I would have done it ages ago
[21:23] <astraljava> fulluser: Thanks. I did some research, and it seems this card really doesn't wanna work with direct rendering enabled. :( I'll keep reading, though.
[21:23] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, do you use a lpatop?
[21:23] <blackcatnekonegr> noooo I dont
[21:23] <blackcatnekonegr> the lcd is just damn generic!
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> why do people insist on messing with root accounts, its so frustrating :(
[21:24] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: Not everyone. I have used at least three different nVidia cards without any problems whatsoever on ubuntu.
[21:24] <blackcatnekonegr> its a "AOC" or something
[21:25] <blackcatnekonegr> ok gonna reset
[21:26] <Benkinooby> dude that <blackcatnekonegr> was in a bad mood
[21:27] <fulluser> ok
[21:27] <ThinkT510> Benkinooby: it doesn't help that he doesn't know what he is doing
[21:27] <fulluser> thanks astral java
[21:27] <blackcatnekonegr> okm I canged the video driver and things just got worse
[21:27] <fulluser> if you find something please let me know
[21:27] <blackcatnekonegr> I knew it was going to happen
[21:27] <blackcatnekonegr> happy now?
[21:28] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: I haven't followed your whole episode, what did you change to, and how is it worse now?
[21:29] <blackcatnekonegr>  NVIDIA linux driver 96
[21:29] <blackcatnekonegr> crashed my pc
[21:29] <astraljava> fulluser: Sure, just stick around a while, and if you won't hear anything from me, try http://askubuntu.com, http://ubuntuforums.org, and ask again in a few hours (just in case someone who knows about the issue appears.)
[21:29] <Benkinooby> astraljava, his monitor blanks out ever 5 min or so, without him wanting that... he tried to set the right settings in the power managemnt but didnt help. then he disabled the power manager... but still. even if he is in console mode it blanks
[21:29] <blackcatnekonegr> ubuntu running in low screen resolution now
[21:30] <blackcatnekonegr> as I said  NVIDIA  sucks on linux
[21:30] <coz_> o0
[21:30] <BluesKaj> blackcatnekonegr, depends which nvidia
[21:30] <blackcatnekonegr> now gonna try the other two "proved by ubuntu staff" drivers just you are happy
[21:30] <coz_> blackcatnekonegr,  that is all I use here  is nvidia
[21:30] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, open a terminal and type "jockey-gtk"
[21:30] <al_nz1> ActionParsnip: you there?
[21:30] <ThinkT510> blackcatnekonegr: that isn't my experience, nvidia has always been good for me
[21:31] <blackcatnekonegr> why botter? I still have other two drivers to try
[21:31] <ThinkT510> blackcatnekonegr: do you want help or not?
[21:31] <blackcatnekonegr> fineee
[21:31] <cosgroveb> what is the best way to trim down my ubuntu installation? i am running out of space on my 5GB disk
[21:32] <astraljava> blackcatnekonegr: Could this possibly help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-disable-screen-blanking-in-x-175011/#post981129
[21:32] <ikonia> cosgroveb: remove packages
[21:32] <coz_> cosgroveb,  remove a few applications.. dont download videos,,, save spareingly
[21:32] <ThinkT510> cosgroveb: 5gb is a little restrictive
[21:32] <cosgroveb> ikonia: i've removed office, firefox, and a few others... not sure what else to remove
[21:32] <coz_> cosgroveb,  anything you want to save,, put onto external or cd
[21:32] <ikonia> cosgroveb: your data now
[21:32] <rww> cosgroveb: try sudo apt-get clean
[21:33] <ikonia> cosgroveb: an ubuntu install is about 2GB in size, so what ever is left is your data
[21:33] <Benkinooby> astraljava, hm... i don'T think... he said that even in console mode it blanks...and in console ther is no X running
[21:33] <cosgroveb> all my data is on external usb
[21:33] <bakarat> i have a friend who has ubuntu and after installation he boots up, but the pc always hangs; if he presses the power button, it resumes booting, any clues what it can be?
[21:33] <cosgroveb> rww: i will do a sudo apt-get clean
[21:33] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway. Still got two more drivers to try, to prove how well "Ubuntu staff tested  drivers" have worked for me
[21:34] <astraljava> Benkinooby: Yes, but is X still running even he's _in_ console?
[21:34] <ThinkT510> !attitude | blackcatnekonegr
[21:34] <blackcatnekonegr> sorry
[21:34] <blackcatnekonegr> but havent had this problem for months
[21:34] <cosgroveb> thanks for the sugestions
[21:34] <blackcatnekonegr> *have
[21:34] <nocilis> i was here a couple days ago and I was having an issue then, and it has not resolved: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:34] <al_nz1> astraljava: hey man
[21:34] <sw0rdfish> ActionParsnip, ewook, if I use --skip-grant-tables ....it wont require authentication by users as long as mysqld is running right? so if I restart mysqld that should solve the problem then? :D
[21:34] <astraljava> al_nz1: Hi.
[21:34] <nocilis> i get that message upon running sudo apt-get update
[21:35] <tiago> i get this message whenever i try to ssh Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive) , any ideas why?
[21:35] <tiago> or how to solve this
[21:35] <al_nz1> astraljava: take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDM39Vo8Z0M when you get a chance
[21:35] <al_nz1> astraljava: my tutporial
[21:35] <blackcatnekonegr> you need to use an account with administrator privileges
[21:35] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, so are you trying that jockey thing?
[21:35] <blackcatnekonegr> yeah
[21:35] <astraljava> nocilis: Could be that the US mirror is down momentarily. Try switching to something else?
[21:35] <nocilis> any ideas anyone?
[21:35] <blackcatnekonegr> just saw the two drivers
[21:36] <nocilis> astraljava how?
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> the one I used before that works so so and the 95 that does not work
[21:36] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, ah ok... if you have allready tested those drivers never mind
[21:36] <astraljava> al_nz1: Alright, but in the meantime, use #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support issues.
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> I am installing a few more to try
[21:36] <al_nz1> astraljava: its a ubuntu based video!
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> and see what happens
[21:36] <blackcatnekonegr> *96
[21:37] <SCATTERSHOT> whoever sent me that list of links could u send it once more
[21:37] <blackcatnekonegr>  tiago, you need to use an account with administrator privileges
[21:37] <astraljava> nocilis: You can edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and switch some other country code instead of us., or just leave it out completely.
[21:37] <nocilis> i'll try that astraljava
[21:37] <tiago> blackcatnekonegr: my account was working, and now isn't
[21:37] <astraljava> al_nz1: I understand, but this is a support channel. That is off-topic here.
[21:37] <tiago> that means they remove privileges?
[21:37] <al_nz1> astraljava: i see
[21:37] <tiago> removed
[21:38] <blackcatnekonegr> well, try with "users and groups" check to see the rights your account has
[21:38] <tiago> blackcatnekonegr: how can i check that?
[21:38] <astraljava> al_nz1: But yeah, you could post a link on the forums to it, it should help some people. Thanks for contributing!
[21:38] <blackcatnekonegr> System / Admistracion/ users and groups
[21:39] <al_nz1> good idea - quite a tricky procedure - took me a while to work it out
[21:39] <sergio232> join ubuntu-es
[21:39] <tiago> blackcatnekonegr: this is in a server, if I don't have access to it
[21:39] <blackcatnekonegr> as a general rule, is a bad idea to use an adm account as default
[21:40] <tiago> how am i supposed to see that
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> ah ok
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> then try running as root
[21:40] <chilversc> is there an option for ncal to display in the same format as cal?
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> and try that command you wanted to do again
[21:40] <blackcatnekonegr> otherwise try to run another acount, an adm one
[21:40] <nocilis> astraljava which lines should I remove?
[21:41] <tiago> this is the only account associated with the server
[21:41] <blackcatnekonegr> well
[21:41] <astraljava> chilversc: -C ?
[21:41] <tiago> how can i reset all ssh related stuff?
[21:41] <chilversc> ah, thanks
[21:41] <blackcatnekonegr> try to reboot and run as root
[21:42] <chilversc> manpages.ubuntu must be out of date
[21:42] <astraljava> nocilis: Don't remove any lines, just remove the characters 'u', 's' and '.' in front of archive.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <monokrome> Hey. Does anyone know of decent software for managing an iPhone?
[21:42] <astraljava> chilversc: That was to be found on 11.04, what are you using?
[21:42] <milk> can i setup my sound so that input is also played as output at the same time?
[21:43] <jrib> milk: probably just unmute your microphone in alsamixer
[21:43] <Georges> hi
[21:43] <chilversc> astraljava: latest, but I was looking at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/cal.1.html
[21:43] <astraljava> chilversc: Ahh... I used terminal.
[21:43] <Gino> hi
[21:43] <milk> jrib: mic is unmuted, not working
[21:43] <nocilis> astraljava on it
[21:44] <astraljava> chilversc: Yeah, that's for lucid. Might not be there, although might be that the pages are outdated, no idea about that service.
[21:44] <milk> i can record sound and play it back but not both at the same time
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> milk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[21:44] <chilversc> astraljava: ah, didn't know lucid was a version name
[21:45] <chilversc> astraljava: so you can just click the version numbers at the top to change :)
[21:45] <chilversc> astraljava: have to say, the current selection could be made a little more obvious
[21:45] <blackcatnekonegr> back, I just havent found a driver that works well with my video card minus the 260 one, and I still get many bugs
[21:45] <astraljava> chilversc: Right, yeah. lucid is the nickname for 10.04. Current latest stable, 11.04, is called natty.
[21:45] <chilversc> yup, if 10.04 had a big highlight around it I'd have noticed right away
[21:46] <pompy_> After the upgrade to 11.04 my laptop does not have WLAN anymore. I found some forum posrt
[21:46] <pompy_> and did a sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:47] <pompy_> but that did not fix it.
[21:47] <blackcatnekonegr> anyway, now I am gonna let my lcd on and alone for a while and see if it turns off
[21:47] <pompy_> I don't have the WLAN symbol in th e
[21:47] <pompy_> panel
[21:47] <pompy_> Any idea?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: is it a broadcom 43xx ?
[21:47] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, good... report back if you have news
[21:47] <milk> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=51cf803b3a756cca986d304d36788719b9c100c8
[21:47] <blackcatnekonegr> ok
[21:47] <pompy_> ActionParsnip: I am not sure.
[21:48] <pompy_> I had the exact same problem with an identical laptop (Extensa 5220) and was able to fix it a few months ago.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: sudo lshw -C network    will say
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> milk: add: options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      reboot to test, may help
[21:50] <milk> ActionParsnip will try thanks
[21:51] <nocilis> astraljava it worked! thanks so much!
[21:51] <pompy_> ActionParsnip: I did that command. Now what info do you need?
[21:52] <astraljava> nocilis: Cool, you can check the US mirror later, if it used to be faster or anything.
[21:52] <Bigbucks> How do I remove the GRUB bootloader?
[21:52] <nocilis> astraljava nah, i just needed a couple packages
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: what is the product line of the wireless device?
[21:52] <jamesrrkkjjssf> why would you want to remove GRUB
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Bigbucks: install a different loader over the top of it
[21:53] <pompy_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/dyy2dcU3
[21:53] <Bigbucks> Well, I want to use the Windows bootloader, because I am dualbooting, but I do not have a windows recovery dick.
[21:53] <Bigbucks> disk*
[21:54] <Bigbucks> I would actually like to set up EasyBCD as the menu to choose what you want to boot, rather than using GRUB
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> pompy_: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN   so yes it is
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | pompy_
[21:55] <Benkinooby> blackcatnekonegr, hey, do you have a file /etc/console-tools/config ?
[21:55] <bl4ckcomb`> hi, when I install ubuntu server it picks /dev/sda for the MBR to use with grub-install, but I want it to use /dev/sdc. Is there a way to do this during the installation? I've tried the shell, but it doesn't recognize 'grub-install'
[21:55] <mang0> Good night all. :)
[21:55] <wildbat> Bigbucks: Windows Bootloader won't boot linux , you need grub ,lilo etc....
[21:56] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: have you checked the installation you just created for it?
[21:56] <Benkinooby> why do i need privilegs to get to that site ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299065
[21:56] <Bigbucks> I want to get rid of the GRUB menu when I turn on my computer.
[21:56] <milk> ActionParsnip: tried, didnt work
[21:56] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, you mean the installation disk?
[21:56] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: no, I mean the install you just created
[21:57] <jamesrrkkjjssf> does anybody know where I can edit ubuntus services via terminal?
[21:57] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, where do I look for it?
[21:57] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: on your harddisk presumably?
[21:57] <riddler> !grub2
[21:57] <astraljava> Benkinooby: It's ancient, they've turned it read-only.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> milk: try:  model=lenovo    instead
[21:57] <milk> ActionParsnip ok
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> milk: you just need the line which makes your sound work
[21:58] <Bigbucks> I didnt LOOSE GRUB, I WANT to loose GRUB
[21:58] <wildbat> Bigbucks: you can have windows boot loader to chainload grub then read up be4 you do that
[21:58] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, sorry, but 'install'... is that a file or what do I look for?
[21:58] <Benkinooby> astraljava, ok... i only want to read it : but if it is outdated, i don't want to see it anymore ... thx
[21:58] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: you just installed ubuntu. that is the installation of ubuntu you just created. and it has a grub-install file
[21:59] <Bigbucks> wildbat: How can I install GRUB on the Ubuntu partition, so I can just remove everything, without having grub or ubnutu on my harddrive
[22:00] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, ah ok, I'll check it (btw, I'm still in the installation process, where grub isn't installed yet, if that matters)
[22:00] <ch3m1c4l> hi everybody!
[22:00] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: then wait until it's finished
[22:00] <nit-wit> ch3m1c4l, howdeee
[22:01] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, it can't install grub on /dev/sda/
[22:01] <jamesrrkkjjssf> does anybody know where I can edit ubuntus services via terminal.
[22:01] <milk> ActionParsnip: no joy
[22:01] <ch3m1c4l> Does anyone know of a good irc network, or channel that is good to hang in for pentesters?
[22:01] <wildbat> Bigbucks: do you have two harddrive one for ubuntu one for win??
[22:01] <Bigbucks> wildbat: I have seperate partitions
[22:01] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: then just don't install it (might need the alternate installer possibly)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> milk: ok delete the line and reboot, make sure the correct devices are set in sound options for both input and output
[22:02] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, ok, when I finish the installation without grub, how should I add it later? via a live cd?
[22:02] <milk> ActionParsnip: in the sound devices it only has one device option for each input and output
[22:02] <wildbat> Bigbucks: that's not a good idea but you can grub-install /dev/sdXY to install in partition
[22:03] <astraljava> jamesrrkkjjssf: You're gonna have to be more specific. What services, and edit in what way?
[22:03] <raluxgaza> So I am running ubuntu minimal with irssi, boy does it feel strange
[22:03] <Bigbucks> wildbat: Then what do I do to get rid of Ubuntu AND GRUB?
[22:03] <astraljava> raluxgaza: Join the club.
[22:04] <jamesrrkkjjssf> I want to add a arg to a service. I start it up with the service command
[22:04] <raluxgaza> astraljava: thanks
[22:04] <raluxgaza> I do have a problem I keep getting into "grub rescue" and I have to manually load. I have tried repiring but still no luck
[22:05] <milk> rebooting
[22:05] <wildbat> Bigbucks: you don't "get rid of it" you install windows' one so it overwritten the MBR so it boot with windows' one
[22:05] <cos_> Is there anyone free to help with a problem I've been having? It's driving me crazy.
[22:05] <astraljava> jamesrrkkjjssf: You're probably thinking of the ones in /etc/init.d/
[22:07] <cos_> It has to do with changing the chost of the computer
[22:07] <cos_> host*
[22:07] <Bigbucks> wildbat: Like I said before, I DONT have a windows recovery CD to do this with.
[22:07] <cos_> I'm pretty sure I screwed myself.
[22:07] <astraljava> raluxgaza: Don't really know that much about grub, so if you won't get help from here at this moment, I'd suggest reading through this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> milk: do you dual boot the system?
[22:09] <wildbat> Bigbucks: that OT. it is M$ afterall , you need one~ setup CD etc. or boot to windows and download fixmbr / bootsect. for more ask in ##windows
[22:09] <yawnie> ok, acer is an absolute enemy for ubuntu :/
[22:09] <astraljava> cos_: Always better to state the problem you're having. Then people can decide whether they _can_ help or not.
[22:09] <cos_> Thanks astra.
[22:10] <cos_> Ok so I'm dual booting with Windows 7. Everything was fine until I decided I needed to change my host name. I looked up how to do it and tried using a package called gnome-netwo
[22:10] <cos_> gnome-network-admin
[22:11] <cos_> and changed both my hostname and entry it the hosts file
[22:11] <cos_> I booted to a black screen witha  blinking cursor
[22:11] <cos_> i was able to boot to the recovery console, used startx, and changed the names back
[22:11] <cos_> even though it seemed to take several reboots for it to happen
[22:12] <yawnie> i too am booting to a black screen with blinking cursor... but when trying to boot ubuntu from usb flash disk
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | yawnie cos_
[22:13] <acerlinux> what's ubuntu rescue mix?
[22:13] <cos_> ok so Action I'm a bit confused by your message
[22:13] <yawnie> ActionParsnip: how do i get to that config, when i cannot get to ubuntu at all
[22:14] <cos_> ubottu I am familiar with that command but i dont know why it would apply to my problem
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: you can set it in grub, you don't need to be in Ubuntu to set it, so the answer is: easily
[22:14] <cos_> oh
[22:15] <yawnie> ActionParsnip: i am sorry, i am not getting this. I get black screen at the moment i start computer and it decides to boot from usb
[22:15] <Success> two things: ((1) the ubuntu forums makes us log in now to see the forum posts, which is extremely annoying/bad )((2)how do you save panels configurations, like i have one setup rearranged to look like windows or mac, one normal, how do i save the configuration?)
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> yawnie: hold shift at boot
[22:15] <cos_> ActionParsnip: Would that still be a viable solution if I try booting to the recovery console and it freezes when it gets to the end?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> cos_: I'd test ram if it's hanging there
[22:16] <cos_> crap i just got new ram put in! i had bad ram before.
[22:16] <cos_> the problems only started after changing the hostname
[22:16] <cos_> are you saying that the host name change has nothing to do with it?
[22:16] <bulle> In unity, the launcher has icons for apps i dont want there, i can rightclick on them and untick the "keep in launcher" option, and they dissapear, but next time i login, they are there again, how do i permanently remove them ?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> cos_: then make sure the /etchosts and /etc/hostname  match exactly the hostname you set
[22:17] <cos_> they absolutely do
[22:17] <Success> yea?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> cos_: the ram you adde could be bad
[22:18] <cos_> grrrr
[22:18] <wols> bl4ckcomb`: you already have a live CD. install before you reboot to you reboot your new ubuntu of course
[22:18] <blink> hi. I downloaded "Power Manager Inhibit Applet", the control is working, I mean the icon changes, but the system still goes to sleep after a certain time..
[22:18] <cos_> i have no problems booting to windows though
[22:18] <cos_> and using windows
[22:20] <TrentonDAdams> When I switch to a French multilingual keyboard, my right control key does not work the way I expect.  It is assigned to something call ISO_LEVEL5_blah
[22:20] <TrentonDAdams> How do I fix that?
[22:20] <bl4ckcomb`> wols, I've done install-grub /dev/sdc and it finished without problems. now I reboot and want to load the kernel, but the grub> prompt doesn't recognize root and kernel
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> cos_: I'd try the nomodeset boot option, may help. At least remove the quiet splash   boot options so you can watch the boot
[22:21] <cos_> ActionParsnip: ok, i will try it. last time i tried removing the quiet splash it was just stuck at the purple screen from grub.  you put a ! before nomodeset, but no one else has mentioned to do that. was that a typo?
[22:26] <WG1337> Hi! I have ubuntu x64 server, but one server plugin requires GLIBCXX_3.4.14, but gcc -v shows I have 4.4.3. What can I do?
[22:26] <jlgaddis> thanks for the assistance earlier guys
[22:27] <kingofswords> hi my windows burn doesnt work in animations/compiz....any ideas anyone?
[22:27] <ejo> argh... Xinerama is pretty bad on multiple monitors with some or all of them rotated :[
[22:27] <ejo> I get windows showing background through them unpredictably
[22:28] <ejo> and weird subpixel rendering issues (though that part is probably ATI's not-so-great fglrx video driver)
[22:30] <adzy> can anyone recommend a disk defrag or disk repair tool for ubuntu?
[22:30] <CLF1> can someone tell me how to diagnose this error: samba4: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:30] <fmauro> adzy: fsck
[22:31] <fmauro> adzy: what is your problem exactly?
[22:32] <astraljava> WG1337: Probably need ia32-libs ?
[22:32] <Protomega> So I was hoping to learn about Linux and I was told to get Ubuntu. What now?
[22:32] <bulle> adzy: defrag is very seldom usefull with the default ubuntu filesystem, ext4
[22:33] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30)
[22:33] <adzy> my computer crashed and i think the drive has errors, i tried to install windows but it just freezes, but i got ubuntu working! but need windows too
[22:33] <moxbox> adzy: Try installing Virtualbox-ose if you have the RAM for it.
[22:33] <gwhip> i'm using 10.04 LTS ... is there a way to turn off all notification popup's?
[22:33] <astraljava> WG1337: Or just plain libstdc++6, are there some errors that you're seeing? Pastebin them, if yes.
[22:34] <fmauro> adzy: is your windows no longer listed in your grub entries?
[22:34] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30)
[22:34] <astraljava> Protomega: Just use it for any tasks you want to do? If you stumble into problems, ask here, on http://ubuntuforums.org, or http://askubuntu.com
[22:35] <adzy> fmauro no i did a full format and re partitions
[22:35] <adzy> fmauro, no i did a full format and re partitions
[22:36] <fmauro> adzy: why don't you try to run smartmontools to see if your disk has errors
[22:36] <adzy> fmauro, and when i tried to install windows it just froze up, i was wondering if there was something i could run to scan drive for errors?
[22:36] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30) I'm trying to install VMWare Server, and the perl installer script needs version.h
[22:36] <fmauro> adzy: wait. I'll get you a link
[22:36] <adzy> fmauro: ok ill try that
[22:37] <adzy> fmauro: thanks
[22:37] <astraljava> gwhip: Does this help? http://fooninja.net/2010/07/29/disable-notifications-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[22:37] <fmauro> adzy: http://blog.shadypixel.com/monitoring-hard-drive-health-on-linux-with-smartmontools/
[22:37] <adzy> fmauro, Cheers for that!
[22:38] <fmauro> adzy: don't mention it mate
[22:38] <gwhip> astraljava: thanks!
[22:40] <no-name-> is there a command you can use to prevent an application from locking your terminal
[22:40] <no-name-> e.g. gedit
[22:40] <no-name-> like if i want to open it from the shell without locking it
[22:40] <chordogg> put a space and an ampersand after the command
[22:40] <chordogg> like gedit &
[22:40] <no-name-> cool, thanks :)
[22:40] <chordogg> :)
[22:40] <moxbox> Where can I find my kernel header files? (Uubntu Maverick running 2.6.35-30) I'm trying to install VMWare Server, and the perl installer script needs version.h
[22:42] <chordogg> moxbox, you may need to download them. i think you can do something like sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` in the command prompt. i believe they usually go to /usr/src/
[22:43] <Dramaturg> Hey, I have an issue with my Ubuntu 11.04. It does not see a wifi network. It used to see and connect to it but all of a suddon it wont. I am using this wifi network ATM from another pc. Iwlist scan does not show the network. Where should I start looking? Thx
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> !find linux-header
[22:43] <astraljava> moxbox: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[22:44] <moxbox> thank you.
[22:45] <moxbox> wait, I can throw uname -r right into the apt command, or are you just shortening it?
[22:45] <astraljava> Dramaturg: You can start here, and ask here if you get stuck somewhere. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[22:46] <astraljava> moxbox: You need the backticks ` ` around it.
[22:46] <moxbox> linux-headers-2.6.35-30-generic is already the newest version.
[22:46] <moxbox> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:46] <moxbox> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-30-generic/include
[22:46] <moxbox> The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[22:46] <moxbox> your running kernel (version 2.6.35-30-generic).  Even if the module were to
[22:46] <moxbox> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[22:46] <FloodBot1> moxbox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <moxbox> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:47] <militant_> haven't run ubuntu in ages, just switched back over from arch.  where's proper sun java?  (and is there anything to do for minecraft other than just running the jar?)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> militant_: enable partner repo
[22:48] <Dramaturg> astraljava: It's not like its not working - it just does not connect to a specific network. And that's not covered in the help you just send. (Which I read btw)
[22:48] <astraljava> militant_: partner repository (at least for a couple of releases now)
[22:48] <militant_> ok.  i'll find the spot to enable those.  thanks
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> militant_: there is a ppa which gets updated more frequently too
[22:49] <moxbox> The kernel headers are the newest version, and it says that my kernel isn't the running kernel, although uname -r says otherwise
[22:50] <astraljava> Dramaturg: Sorry, then. Try back later, if no-one knows now. I certainly don't know what to try next.
[22:50] <moxbox> "The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match your running kernel (version 2.6.35-30-generic).  Even if the module were to compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel."
[22:51] <moxbox> "uname -r" gives me 2.6.35-30-generic
[22:51] <militant_> ok, i enabled partners in software center but nothing new shows on a search or in the partners section
[22:52] <astraljava> militant_: Did you reload (or whatever it is you do in software center)?
[22:52] <chordogg> can we posts links here?
[22:52] <astraljava> militant_: Ie. the equivalent of `sudo apt-get update`
[22:52] <chordogg> moxbox, try this link: http://www.atlink.it/~conti/2007/12/19/vmware-uts_release/
[22:52] <meoblast001> hi
[22:52] <meoblast001> i'm having a bit of a problem
[22:52] <meoblast001> i tried to update from 10.10 to 11.04, and it failed... i lost all my software sources though
[22:53] <meoblast001> how could i reenable those, they seem to be deleted
[22:53] <moxbox> chordogg: you're the best!
[22:53] <chordogg> moxbox, did that work?
[22:53] <meoblast001> does anyone here run Kubuntu 10.10 who could give me the default repo lines?
[22:53] <moxbox> I'm trying it now
[22:53] <militant_> astraljava: i guess?  i just restarted software center and no results.  it shows openjdk and stuff but not straightup sun java 1.7.3 or whatever it is today
[22:54] <moxbox> I run Ubuntu 10.10. repo's the same.
[22:54] <Soothsayer> I'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu, (windows 7 is ntfs, ubuntu is on ext4)... When I'm on Ubuntu and  I transfer some files or edit some files in the NTFS drive and later come back to windows, those files / directories appear corrupt for some reason
[22:54] <Soothsayer> why is this happening?
[22:55] <minimec> meoblast001: You can recreate them yourself... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:56] <moxbox> chordogg: Gives me a permission denied, even with sudo
[22:58] <meoblast001> minimec: thanks
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: boot to Natty CD and the upgrade will be an option
[22:59] <astraljava> militant_: I have no idea. Perhaps Software Center has a problem with that? Can you try on CLI: `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre`
[22:59] <meoblast001> oh, strange
[22:59] <meoblast001> aparently i have everything activated
[22:59] <meoblast001> but they're all natty repos
[22:59] <meoblast001> something is really borked here
[22:59] <chordogg> hmm...not sure why that would be, unless maybe one of the directories didnt exist?
[22:59] <Dramaturg> How to reconfigure the network manager (like reinstall but without internet) dpkg-reconfigure -a network-manager or smith else?
[22:59] <chordogg> i'd try doing a google search for @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE, i'll bet someone else has had your problem before
[22:59] <militant_> astraljava: cool, it's running
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: try the server upgrade method
[23:00] <meoblast001> what's that?
[23:00] <moxbox> Google was my first check. I'm about to go to VMware themselves.
[23:01] <yawnie> holding shift while booting does nothing :/
[23:02] <astraljava> moxbox: Didn't check the first link given to you, is this similar? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10761345
[23:02] <militant_> oh and what's this about?  f5 doesn't refresh, it blanks webpages.  ^5 does refresh
[23:02] <chordogg> moxbox, maybe the version.h file doesnt have read permission? try sudo chmod 777 version.h when you cd to that directory
[23:04] <moxbox> says "utsrelease.h" doesn't exist
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> militant_: which browser?
[23:04] <moxbox> when i try cat utsrelease.h >> version.h
[23:04] <militant_> ActionParsnip: chromium
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> militant_: which version?
[23:05] <militant_> latest
[23:05] <meoblast001> oh yay
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> militant_: I can name 3 "latest"s
[23:05] <meoblast001> my package manager is broke
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> meoblast001: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:05] <moxbox> militant: $ chromuim -v
[23:05] <moxbox> might be chromium-browser
[23:05] <meoblast001> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:06] <militant_> ActionParsnip: 12.0.742.112 (90304) Ubuntu 11.04
[23:07] <meoblast001> i need to replace my entire repo list
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> militant_: ok that's the stable release, there is also the unstable and the daily build
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> militant_: does the F5 refresh issue happen as all users?
[23:08] <militant_> i only have one user
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> militant_: make another to test then. Your OS can hold more than one local user
[23:08] <militant_> tbh i might remember it doing it in chrome and ie9 both in the 20 mins i ran windows after buying this machine today before installing ubuntu instead
[23:09] <moxbox> afk
[23:10] <militant_> ugh.  i do not like unity.  i'll be removing that soon.  it's a pain to find anything with this over-sensitive touchpad (not speed, just slightest brushes and taps)
[23:10] <astraljava> moxbox: That first link refers to a really old kernel version, did you try the newer instructions at ubuntuforums?
[23:10] <moxbox> militant: also, in gconf (i don't know where right off hand), you can disable tapping the touchpad for clicking
[23:11] <militant_> oh i prefer tapping.  but i know i can disable it while keyboard is in use, so palms won't cause accidents
[23:11] <rodhash> Hello guys, how can I see what module is in use for my USB wireless card??
[23:11] <Squall5668> Hello all, im trying to make a really restricted user in 11.04. I have removed most buttons etc from the drop downs (ubuntu classic ofc) and im trying to get rid of the System Settings in the top right indicator too. Any clue on how to do that?
[23:12] <moxbox> the ubuntuforum link dealt a), with natty, and b), with vmware 2, lol
[23:12] <rodhash> Anyone knows how to see what module is in use for a usb wireless card?
[23:13] <moxbox> my guess is that problem is the perl installer script doesn't have a clue what kernel i'm running
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> rodhash: sudo lshw -C network
[23:13] <moxbox> rodhash: lsmod | grep net
[23:13] <moxbox> acutally, that one is way better.
[23:13] <rodhash> ActionParsnip: I've tried "lsmod / lsub" but I didn't find
[23:13] <astraljava> moxbox: Oh okay, sorry. :)
[23:13] <moxbox> it's okay, no need to apologize
[23:15] <rodhash> ActionParsnip: Would be this one? driver=usb
[23:15] <rodhash> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=usb
[23:16] <moxbox> astraljava: uname -r tells me it's 2.6.35-30-generic, while the perl script says that the very same kernel *isn't* my running kernel.
[23:17] <rodhash> Anyonw knows how can I umount this usb wireless card? It's wlan1..
[23:18] <militant_> my god.  unity is worse than i ever thought.  i can't find anything.  how is it useful to have a massive cluster of 82 apps with no organization or anything
[23:18] <moxbox> although this page apears to be promising: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-2-on-ubuntu-10.10-kernel-2.6.35-p2
[23:18] <rodhash> Anyonw knows how can I umount this usb wireless card? It's wlan1..
[23:18] <militant_> and that stupid sidebar won't pop up half the time, and duplicates the vanishing taskbar from windows i hate so much
[23:19] <itaylor57> !classic > militant_
[23:20] <RenatoSilva> anyone knows where's/how to get that app where you choose between alsa and others?
[23:20] <moxbox> militant: Log out, then when you select your username, choose "ubuntu classic", then enter your password, and log in.
[23:20] <Squall5668> Am i really the only one trying to make super restricted users? :/
[23:20] <militant_> cool.  i figured there was a revert.  thanks
[23:21] <astraljava> moxbox: utsrelease.h can be found under /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/generated/ but it might still be that even if you fixed that, and the autoconf issue, not all the modules will necessarily build. The 1.x line of server is way outdated.
[23:21] <moxbox> RenatoSilva: System > Preferences > Main Menu, then under Preferences, check the box that says "Multimedia systems selector"
[23:21] <moxbox> Astraljava: thanks, I'll try v2
[23:21] <moxbox> brb, all
[23:22] <RenatoSilva> moxbox: THANKS!
[23:22] <RenatoSilva> moxbox: it's alsa anyway, the ubuntu alsa ppa didn't work bah
[23:22] <astraljava> Squall5668: Most likely not. Does that relate to some support issue?
[23:23] <Squall5668> Hello all, im trying to make a really restricted user in 11.04. I have removed most buttons etc from the drop downs (ubuntu classic ofc) and im trying to get rid of the System Settings in the top right indicator too. Any clue on how to do that?
[23:23] <Squall5668> i posted this a minute ago
[23:23] <Squall5668> i thought of a chroot jail, but that's quite easy to break out of
[23:23] <astraljava> Squall5668: Right, sorry. Must've missed it.
[23:23] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, there are tools to do that, but if you say why you want to do it, it's probably easier to give you a good answer.
[23:24] <sw0rdfish> where is the mysql data directory
[23:24] <sw0rdfish> the default one
[23:24] <sw0rdfish> ewook, you still there :D
[23:24] <jo-erlend_> sw0rdfish, /var/lib/mysql or something?
[23:24] <Squall5668> jo-erlend, i just don't want the user to be able to change any setting at all, save from programs like firefox and libreoffice
[23:24] <coz_> Squall5668,  trying to think of a way to do this without actually uninstalling some indicators
[23:26] <jo-erlend_> sw0rdfish, you can use #Ubuntu-server for server-related questions btw.
[23:26] <coz_> Squall5668,  see if this helps    http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Managing_Ubuntu_11.04_Users_and_Groups#Modifying_User_Account_Settings
[23:26] <fakingfantastic> how do you check the cron is on and running?
[23:26] <Fjorgynn> ...
[23:26] <Fjorgynn> how can I get 3d support?
[23:26] <Fjorgynn> nvidia
[23:26] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   did you install the nvidia driver?
[23:26] <th0r> fakingfantastic: if there is a cronjob running. crontab -l will show all scheduled jobs
[23:27] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, hope you have good reasons for it.
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> coz_: yes
[23:27] <fakingfantastic> th0r: ok, so since my line shows up - that means it's gonna run?
[23:27] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok and did you reboot after installing the nvidia drivers?
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> yes
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> coz_: and when I try to start nvidia-settings it says I must write bla bla bal in terminal. Did that and NO. the X-server won't start
[23:27] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok   are you on    Unity or classic?
[23:27] <Fjorgynn> coz_: xfce
[23:28] <th0r> fakingfantastic: it means it will be executed. Whether it runs or not depends on how good the command is <smile>
[23:28] <fakingfantastic> th0r: touche, thanks
[23:28] <sw0rdfish> jo-erlend_, thanks you already got it right first time :D
[23:28] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok  what does it say "exactlY'  when you type  nvidia-settings  in the terminal?
[23:28] <Squall5668> coz_ that's just the regular settings. Thanks though
[23:28] <coz_> Squall5668,  sorry
[23:28] <Duckfd> How do I run a program like in ALT F2 from the terminal?
[23:28] <Fjorgynn> coz_: gets a popup
[23:29] <coz_> Fjorgynn,    and what does that say "exactly"
[23:29] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ i told you the reason. I just don't want that idi... ahem... guy to mess anything up. Even his own settings
[23:29] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, but if you explain the scenario, it really does become easier to provide better help.
[23:29] <th0r> Duckfd: any command that runs in Alt-F2 should also run if entered at the command prompt in the terminal
[23:29] <Fjorgynn> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root) and restart the X server"
[23:29] <Fjorgynn> coz_:
[23:29] <coz_> Squall5668,  not sure off hand,, there has to be a simple solution for this
[23:29] <Fjorgynn> and when I did that the server won't start
[23:29] <Duckfd> thor   but with leaving a prompt
[23:30] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok first in terminal  type     jockey-gtk
[23:30] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, why don't you make a panic button instead, so that he can just jump back to a time when everything was fine? It's easier to do, and a lot more user friendly.
[23:30] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  when that opens   see if in fact the nvidia_current dirver is activated
[23:30] <Fjorgynn> coz_: yes
[23:30] <Fjorgynn> This driver is activated but not used
[23:30] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  ok so it says it is indeed activated,,, ok in terminal type  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[23:31] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  then either restart x  or reboot
[23:31] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  out of curisity  in terminal   lspci | grep -i vga
[23:31] <coz_> curiosity
[23:31] <Fjorgynn> coz_: got Intel and nVidia
[23:31] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ agh, you are really pushing my english skills... This box will be given to a guy and he will share it with others too. All of which have no idea of doing more than clicking the mouse button. All they need is probably the office suite. Maybe firefox too (not sure if they have even used the internet before) Yes that's the kind of people im talking about. So no, one more button is just
[23:31] <Squall5668> not a good idea
[23:32] <Fjorgynn> it says coz_
[23:32] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   I need to see the actual readout,, go to pastebin.com and paste it there,, post it and give me the link
[23:32] <Fjorgynn> coz_: http://pastebin.com/Q0j56hq7
[23:32] <Fjorgynn> there
[23:32] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   laptop ...yes?
[23:33] <Fjorgynn> yes
[23:33] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   ok the easiest and most reliable thing to do is to remove the nvidia driver and use the intel video
[23:33] <elz89> how do I make system info display when I ssh to a machine, some of my ubuntu servers do it, others not?
[23:33] <haruair> hello
[23:33] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, making it so that alt+ctrl+f12 restores everything to how it was a half an hour ago is something you can do in an hour or so. Locking down all applications can be _really_ difficult. In any case, you should give each user their own account. That usually reduces problems dramatically since people tend to care less about systems they share.
[23:33] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   blacklisting and disabling the onboard intel may be a pain in the rear and I have not found an adequate way of doing that with dual video card systems
[23:33] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  unless you can disable the intel video in the bios
[23:34] <fakingfantastic> th0r: i set up this:   1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /tmp/test    -- didn't work, ran the command manually, it did. Any idea?
[23:34] <Fjorgynn> coz_: but I want 3d?
[23:34] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  the intell video should give that also
[23:34] <Squall5668> Well, i guess the panic button will do. But if you could possibly link a guide for locking down everything, id be greatful. I have time anyways :)
[23:34] <Fjorgynn> :/
[23:34] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   if not then ,, I am not sure what to say ,, as I said,, check the bios to see if the intel onboard can be disabled,  if that's the case then reinstall the nvidia driver and all should be well
[23:35] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ sorry forgot to type your name, check a little upwards :)
[23:35] <Fjorgynn> or just keep using Windows 7
[23:35] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, let me put it another way. Avoiding all possible errors is extremely difficult. Making it possible to easily correct all possible errors is very easy.
[23:35] <th0r> fakingfantastic: /tmp is owned by root. Are you running the cron as root?
[23:35] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  let me check online for any references to dual video systems and disableing onboard intel ,, hold on
[23:35] <fakingfantastic> th0r: how do i know?
[23:35] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ i still wish to see a guide. Is there one?
[23:36] <JohnnyFive> ok, I have a USB device (IR receiver) plugged in.. how can I figure out what /dev/ it was mapped to?
[23:36] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, I actually tried to do that once. I spent a week, and I gave up. Some applications are almost impossible to lock down because of how they work. You can try Sabayon, for instance. It will lock down the main desktop. The panel and such.
[23:36] <th0r> fakingfantastic: each user has his/her own crontab. If you run crontab -l as <username> you only see the jobs that user has scheduled
[23:36] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  y ou might also check in ##hardware channel to see if they have suggestions
[23:36] <th0r> fakingfantastic: and I am not sure, there may be some problem running something like that as root
[23:36] <fakingfantastic> th0r: ahh ok yeah im doing crontab -e as root
[23:36] <fakingfantastic> ok good deal
[23:37] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ thank you! Ill poke around that tool then
[23:37] <th0r> fakingfantastic: I have never tried to run a crontab as root....so not sure. I do know you cannot use ~ in crontab, you have to use the full path name (unless there is some ubuntu specific mod going on)
[23:37] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  I am finding nothing online about this
[23:38] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, but if you value input, then my opinion is that what you are doing is wrong. I don't often say that. You should use backups instead. It's _much_ easier both for you and the users and you get lots of bonuses.
[23:38] <coz_> Fjorgynn,   check in both ##hardware and ##linux channels,, maybe someone there can help with t his,, make sure you say you want to use the onboard nvidia and not the intel
[23:38] <Squall5668> i have tried that and tested my patiance one too many times
[23:38] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  if you find a solution for this , please let me know
[23:38] <Fjorgynn> or just use Windows 7 and swear
[23:39] <elz89> how do I make system info display when I ssh to a machine, some of my ubuntu servers do it, others not?
[23:39] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  i wou ld hunt down a few people who may have a solution before consigning myself to that :)
[23:39] <Fjorgynn> nah
[23:39] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  its worth the effort honest
[23:39] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, did you try automatic incremental backups and a keyboard shortcut to restore to the last backup? "Press alt+ctrl+f12 and everything will be back to normal, no matter what you do". Nothing is easier than that.
[23:40] <coz_> Fjorgynn,  as I said ,, check in the bios,, if both video cards are o nboard,, there should be a way of disabling one of them
[23:40] <induz> I have 1gb UFD and i want to install a flavor of LINUX/Ubuntu on it...so i can boot from the UFD...what u suggest
[23:40] <coz_> Inure,   "UFD" ?
[23:40] <induz> UFD is formatted in MSwindows as FAT32
[23:41] <induz> UFD= USB flash drive
[23:41] <coz_> ah
[23:41] <induz> PenDrive
[23:41] <induz> stick
[23:41] <Squall5668> jo-erlend_ no i haven't tried the one-button restore approach but a tool for backups. I guess im not too good with user-friendlyness. Anyways, ill take your input and rethink my approach :)
[23:41] <induz> thumb drive
[23:41] <coz_> induz,   I would think any of the ubuntu versions should work well
[23:41] <induz> but it is just Igb
[23:41] <induz> 1gb
[23:41] <coz_> induz,  hold on
[23:42] <elz89> induz: go with arch linux
[23:42] <Griffin11> induz that is sufficient
[23:42] <induz> so i want a small version with basics and networking support
[23:42] <jo-erlend_> Squall5668, that's wise. Because I can almost promise you that no matter how hard to try to make the system bullet proof, some user is going to find a way to do something wrong.
[23:42] <induz> arch linux??
[23:42] <Squall5668> don't i know :/
[23:42] <induz> any link
[23:43] <coz_> induz,   also austrumi  if you dont need much else
[23:43] <Griffin11> induz, oh i though you wanted to install -from- usb, nevermind
[23:43] <coz_> induz,   this works well from a flash drive   http://cyti.latgola.lv/ruuni/
[23:43] <induz> i want bootable so I donthave to
[23:44] <joaolucas_> Hello everbody
[23:44] <joaolucas_> How're you?