[00:00] <deadmund> jaime: You need to configure the samba client on those other linux machines (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide
[00:00] <Sia-> gordonjcp, as i said i have archlinux and ubuntu of them., specially the ATI graphic card are very buggy! Actually isn't ubuntu or linux fault at all.
[00:00] <TJ-> EMKO: "update-initramfs -c -v -k 3.8.0-34-generic  2>&1 | tee /tmp/update02.log"    then after it finishes, "pastebinit /tmp/update02.log"
[00:01] <EMKO> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654339/
[00:01] <constl> deadmund: Don't get it. why do I have to unmount a USB drive to change some permission on a folder.
[00:01] <jaime> Thank you deadmund
[00:02] <ramborocks> Hi i was looking to have a hard drive be listed under devices in the system folder on ubuntu
[00:02] <TJ-> EMKO: looking good... we'll do the other one now, too... "update-initramfs -ck 3.2.0-24-generic"
[00:02] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: im starting to think its not an ubuntu problem :E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) its a script configured for the app in question methinks
[00:02] <constl> deadmund: Guess it's the filesystem, had to google it. Thanks for the tip deadmund
[00:03] <TJ-> EMKO: Then lets check that those versions are now known to update-initramfs tools: "ls -latr /var/lib/initramfs-tools/ | pastebinit"
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: need the lines above that for the exact error
[00:03] <deadmund> constl: Well, if the filesystem type doesn't support unix file permissions (e.g. ntfs, fat) then the system simply takes the permissions of the folder it was mounted in and pushes it through.  It's a bug that you can't chmod it while mounted, it's a feature that file permissions are extended to the files on that partition.
[00:03] <EMKO> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654356/
[00:03] <deadmund> constl: However, the bug is deep and old so I'm guessing the develops have some reason for keeping it (may be a good reason even!  IDK though)
[00:03] <deadmund> jaime: Sure
[00:04] <deadmund> constl: Yes, it's a shortcoming of the file system type
[00:04] <k1l_> !away > dziegler_off
[00:04] <kalekip1> Hi, I would like to enable hibernation, but Swap is not available. I tried to  follow this answer: http://askubuntu.com/a/199372, but aparently I don't have a swap partition. (How) should I make one?
[00:04] <TJ-> EMKO: Great :) This could be the final step! "update-grub 2>&1 | tee /tmp/update03.log"    then "pastebinit /tmp/update03.log"
[00:05] <constl> deadmund: Can you recommend a filesystem for an external drive residing on a ubuntu machine for file serving purposes? If it can be read by win8.1 or mac os x and still behave as ext3 would be awesome
[00:05] <EMKO> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654362/
[00:06] <TJ-> EMKO: At this point, you should try a normal reboot ..... "reboot"  :)  *fingers crossed*
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[00:06] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Zp2w87Pz
[00:06] <ramborocks> i was looking to get my harddrive to show up under 'devices' in ubuntu
[00:06] <deadmund> constl: I would suggest NTFS or fat32 because those can be read by all three. But you can use ext4 and install drivers in windows to read it.
[00:06] <ramborocks> it shows up one of the partitions just not both
[00:06] <deadmund> constl: I think os x can read ext4 by default but I'm not sure.
[00:07] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: sudo blkid shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654367/
[00:07] <constl> deadmund: Thank you sir, i will look more into it myself
[00:07] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: or did you really mean lsblk?
[00:07] <deadmund> constl: syre
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: yes lsblk
[00:08] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654371/
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: how much ram do you have?
[00:08] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: 16 GB
[00:08] <kalekip1> ;)
[00:09] <EMKO> TJ-: nice it booted and to fullscreen but still no unity just desktop image and mouse i can right click and context menu does popup but thats about it
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: you'll need to resize down a partition (such as /dev/sda7) by at least 16gb and create a swap partition in its place
[00:10] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: OK, thanks. I'll probably do that tomorrow. It's getting late now :P
[00:10] <ramborocks> any tips on getting devices to show up under file / 'devices' in ubuntu?
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> emko: does ctrl + alt + t bring up a terminal?
[00:10] <EMKO> hitsujiTMO: yes
[00:11] <gdi2k> kalekip1, why not first test with a swap file?
[00:11] <gdi2k> much easier than repartitioning
[00:11] <kalekip1> gdi2k: And how would I do that?
[00:11] <gdi2k> (side note: I never got hibernation working, regardless of swap file size)
[00:11] <gdi2k> (or swap size in general)
[00:11] <TJ-> EMKO: OK... well that's progress! I suggest you switch to a tty using "Ctrl+Alt+F1" log-in, and create a new user profile with "sudo adduser test" and then restart the GUI with "sudo service lightdm restart" and try logging in as "test" user. If the dash and panels are still not there we know its a system problem, not a user profile problem.
[00:11] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Has probably to do with your drivers
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: whats output of: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server*
[00:12] <gdi2k> kalekip1, Probably: check this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-a-swap-file-on-an-arch-linux-cloud-server
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: what type of device?
[00:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> TJ-: it might be the .config .cache .dbus .gnome  etc, etc files in his /home dir
[00:13] <TJ-> WhatIsTheMatrix: Precisely; hence a new clean user profile will help us determine that
[00:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> TJ-: yeah, rgr that
[00:13] <ramborocks> a harddrive
[00:13] <Autoclesis> A good time for a dumb question?
[00:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> sure
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: what connection type?
[00:14] <WhatIsTheMatrix> if there is such a thing
[00:14] <ramborocks> its mounted correctly i believe - one of the partitions show up but the main does not
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: ahh. ok so not an issue with it not showing up in /dev then:P ok, what filesystem?
[00:15] <Autoclesis> Great
[00:15] <ramborocks> ubuntu 13.10 and i believe its ext4
[00:15] <ramborocks> whats the command to check blklid?
[00:15] <Autoclesis> How do I drag with ubuntu touchpad on asus netbook?
[00:15] <TJ-> ramborocks: Are you meaning you want to see it in the graphical user interface's File Manager ?
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: sudo blkid
[00:16] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, hold left button with thumb and use fingers to drag
[00:16] <ramborocks> yes i would like to see it when i go to unity under files - 'devices'
[00:16] <Autoclesis> hold the left button...
[00:16] <Autoclesis> okay ObrienDave let me try thank you
[00:16] <ramborocks> i was wrong its ntfs
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: if its a ext fs then you can't afaik. you must manually mount it or add it to fstab
[00:17] <slimjimflim> hi i'm running 12.10 and every time i enter a password i get this silly prompt about not entering a keyring password.  i hit cancel and then keep doing what i was doing before.
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: ntfs should auto show up in devices alright
[00:17] <Autoclesis> ObrienDave, what's the "left button"?
[00:17] <slimjimflim> i don't want to store my passwords on the machine.  how can i make it go away?
[00:17] <ramborocks> http://pastebin.com/2ysmhU5q
[00:17] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server.list  /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server.postrm
[00:17]  * Autoclesis feels retarded
[00:17] <ramborocks> small lotus shows up in the devices.. but yet 'lotus' does not
[00:17] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, doesn't your touchpad have 2 buttons?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: lsblk please
[00:18] <Autoclesis> it has a single black space with a line on it
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: can you pastebin the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnunet-server.postrm
[00:19] <ramborocks> http://pastebin.com/L9QR4980
[00:20] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, ok, try the left "half"
[00:20] <Autoclesis> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/specHR/images/BE05692d.jpg
[00:20] <Autoclesis> ObrienDave, ^^^
[00:20] <Autoclesis> yes I have been...
[00:21] <Xgates> hi guys
[00:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hello
[00:21] <ramborocks> thats a new command for me lsblk :)
[00:21] <kalekip1> Wooooo
[00:21] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Did you try a double-tap and drag?
[00:21] <kalekip1> it seems to work
[00:21] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Ty
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: its not showing up indevices as you have it in fstab mounting to /mnt/media_sdb1
[00:22] <Autoclesis> TJ-, yes sir
[00:22] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, then try further to the left. you might need to adjust the button "zone" area
[00:22] <ramborocks> hmm i dont want it to do that
[00:22] <TJ-> Autoclesis: What's the exact make/model of the netbook?
[00:22] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QG1XeYeu no rush btw
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: you need to remove the entry for /etc/fstab
[00:22] <ramborocks> im new. thats why i put it there.
[00:22] <Xgates> has anyone ever figured out a way to make the bootup, restart/shutdown of Plymouth clean looking 100% without any text spewing across the screen? It's my understand this is more of a laptop issue, desktops that have auto adjust of the aspect ratio aren't affected, but I'm not certain, I've always run Ubuntu on laptops...
[00:23] <ramborocks> if i remove it will it not load at all?
[00:23] <Autoclesis> Asus 1015E
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> ramborocks: that ofcourse will require you to manually mount the drive each time
[00:23] <gdi2k> kalekip1, np. I think partitioned swap is supposed to be faster than swapfile, so if everything is working, you could consider going the partition route...
[00:23] <Autoclesis> 1015e ds03
[00:23] <Autoclesis> http://www.amazon.com/1015E-DS03-10-1-Inch-Laptop-Black-Ubuntu/dp/B00COQK8QY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388276599&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+1015e-ds03
[00:23] <ramborocks> can i create a new mount point for it?
[00:24] <Xgates> Sure it's just a cosmetic issue, and I like tweaking this trying to make it work, but I've not been able to come up with anything, unless to keep things simple the kernel logging can be set to not display as much information...
[00:24] <ramborocks> i just want it to show up when i go look at devices rather than have to track it down
[00:24] <TJ-> Autoclesis: I read "...The touchpad, when you tap once, works as a left-click. If you tap twice and keep your finger on the pad you can drag windows or select text etc... pretty much like you're holding the left mouse button down. If you tap with 2 fingers it does send the "right-click" command but it doesn't work all the time..."
[00:24] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Any idea how much I should've allocated it? I gave it 1024 MB
[00:24] <Autoclesis> TJ-, thank you very much for researching it...
[00:24]  * Autoclesis reads
[00:25] <gdi2k> kalekip1, I think for hibernate to work you're supposed to make it at least as large as RAM (16+ GB in your case)
[00:25] <Autoclesis> two finger right click works perfectly
[00:25] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[00:25] <Autoclesis> okay
[00:25] <Xgates> also when using Nvidia drivers, with Saucy are we suppose to see the splash saying Ubuntu at boot?
[00:25] <Autoclesis> secondary menu appears with two finger double tap
[00:26] <kalekip1> gdi2k: correct, I just searched it :p
[00:26] <Autoclesis> TJ-, thanks, I'll work through that
[00:26] <Autoclesis> it's just dragging that's a bust
[00:27] <TJ-> Autoclesis: maybe the drag is a bit picky about the delay between the two taps? Try it much faster, or much slower, just in case.
[00:27] <Autoclesis> heh
[00:27] <Autoclesis> Are you saying I lack rhythm!?!
[00:28]  * Autoclesis shares some leftover peppermint cake with TJ-
[00:28] <glitsj16> Xgates: on your plymouth topic .. not sure if i understand it correctly .. it's the wrong resolution? that can be fixed with some tinkering, if not ignore .. getting a bit slowww here
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: cat /etc/passwd | grep gnunet && cat /etc/group | grep gnunet && cat /etc/group | grep gnunetdns
[00:28] <Autoclesis> Let me poke at it and embarrass myself some more
[00:28] <Autoclesis> oh my god
[00:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> it's working?
[00:29] <Xgates> glitsj16: yes resolution I know, I was asking if anyone figured out a way to not have the bootup/restart/shutdown process display any text, making it 100% text free?
[00:29] <Autoclesis> yes because I didn't realize it was also an actual button, WhatIsTheMatrix , ObrienDave , TJ-
[00:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> usually that's what ppl say when it actually works, lol
[00:29] <Autoclesis> my Apple experience mislead me
[00:29] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Yay!
[00:29] <Autoclesis> When I picked up the netbook I felt the click of the actual button-button
[00:30] <Autoclesis> :)
[00:30] <Xgates> plymouth at least on laptops has always had text spewing across the screen...
[00:30] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, ROFL ;))
[00:30] <Autoclesis> tee hee
[00:30]  * TJ- nom nom noms the peppermint cake
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: for hibernation you need to allocate at a minimum the amount of ram you have
[00:30] <ObrienDave> Autoclesis, you made my day. thank you :)
[00:30]  * Autoclesis awards TJ- and ObrienDave and WhatIsTheMatrix  Distinguished Ubuntu Awards
[00:30] <Autoclesis> my pleasure!
[00:30] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: I see...
[00:30] <Autoclesis> I never had a netbook before...
[00:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> guess it takes some nuance :-)
[00:31] <glitsj16> Xgates: okay, with having 'quiet' in the kernel boot params there's not much i see, so 100% graphical here, unless the fsck messages when they run)
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: if at anystage you are using more ram than the size of the swap partition then hibernation will fail
[00:31] <Xgates> glitsj16: you on a desktop or laptop?
[00:31] <Autoclesis> I've been using Ubuntu forever
[00:32] <glitsj16> Xgates: laptop, also using nvidia
[00:32] <Autoclesis> but now I want to use mypaint in the field with a wacom
[00:32] <kalekip1> hitsujiTMO: My Windows hibernation keeps failing. Is that almost the same?
[00:32] <Xgates> Autoclesis: poor lad LOL...
[00:32] <Autoclesis> and I got a GPS dongle
[00:32] <Autoclesis> hehe
[00:32] <TJ-> Autoclesis: Don't tap it too hard :p
[00:32] <Xgates> glitsj16: so it does not display any text for you?
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> kalekip1: that uses a seperate hibernation file which also needs to be the same as the amount of ram you have
[00:32] <Xgates> I even see the login prompt flash by the screen before the desktop loads
[00:33] <Xgates> that's ridiculous...
[00:33] <kalekip1> gdi2k: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq "It cannot use a swap file on an active file system."
[00:33] <kalekip1> What does that exactly mean?
[00:33] <glitsj16> Xgates: no not really, i did the resolution fix for plymouth but since then pretty clean and cosmetic
[00:33] <demophobia> I've tried Suspending the computer and returning from Suspend, and both times my display has crashed upon login and I've been forced to do a hard shut off and restart this desktop computer. What is the problem and how do I fix it? :)
[00:33] <gdi2k> kalekip1, ah
[00:33] <Xgates> glitsj16: what fix you did? Have an URL?
[00:33] <glitsj16> Xgates: sure, hang on
[00:33] <Xgates> thx
[00:33] <kalekip1> Does it mean that it doesn't work? :/
[00:34] <gdi2k> kalekip1, wasn't aware of that, but makes sense when I think about it. paritioning it is then
[00:34] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: u need that outpu
[00:34] <pvl1> t
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: please
[00:34] <kalekip1> gdi2k: OK, thanks anyways :(
[00:34] <Xgates> For me in Saucy after I press the power button to resume from suspend my screen on the laptop looks like the brightness is turned half way down... :(
[00:34] <Xgates> and my F keys, my luck dont work, so have to reboot
[00:35] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/pbY5Rmua
[00:35] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Will look at it tomorrow. It's turning 2 o'clock. Good night.
[00:35] <gdi2k> kalekip1, if partitioning is a major mission, you may try just whacking a swap partition on a USB stick
[00:35] <gdi2k> just for testing
[00:35] <glitsj16> Xgates: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html is where it all started for me, but the script in that page might not work anymore, depending on your ubuntu version .. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html  .. but depending on the ubuntu version that might not work anymore .. what are you on?
[00:35] <Xgates> Saucy
[00:36] <kalekip1> gdi2k: Time is not a problem, as long as it works without demolishing my PC :)
[00:36] <kalekip1> bai
[00:36] <glitsj16> Xgates: i don't think that has hwinfo in the repos, can you check ?
[00:36] <glitsj16> apt-cache policy hwinfo should do it
[00:36] <gdi2k> kalekip1, downsizing partitions has always worked for me, although it does take a long time. don't forget to back up though!
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: sudo deluser pavel gnunet
[00:37] <Xgates> no hwinfo in saucy
[00:37] <Xgates> I
[00:37] <Xgates> errrr
[00:38] <glitsj16> Xgates: no worries, there's always other options in linux
[00:38] <Xgates> I've seen that URL before, I can't remember if I tried that before or not...
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: once thats done, please try to purge the package again
[00:38] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: that would make sense. but i dont understand it.
[00:38] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: why would my group participation prevent a purge
[00:39] <glitsj16> Xgates: on saucy i believe the second answer on http://askubuntu.com/questions/6033/enabling-nvidia-driver-messes-up-splash-screen provides the same result
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: i thinks the problem stems from a poorly written uninstall script. when it tries to delete the group it returns an error because your user is in that group. since the script is set to -e it returns on any error
[00:40] <Xgates> I forgot but it's in the forum, you don't have to install anything just some manual changes is all...
[00:40] <Xgates> let me try to find it...
[00:40]  * Xgates digs
[00:40] <glitsj16> Xgates: if you have done the fix that should be recognizable in your /etc/default/grub
[00:40] <Xgates> yes
[00:41] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: it failed the first time, i removed the user gnunet, and it worked. however, what about this gnunetdns, is that a group or user
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: its both, tho it seems it should just be a group according to the uninstall script
[00:42] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: ill investigate it. thank you very much for your help!
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: no problems
[00:42] <constl> deadmund: I'm having some problems still with accessing a now ext4 external drive through samba. I'm guessing it has to do with how it gets automounted by default. Any hints?
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> pvl1: what version of ubuntu are you using btw?
[00:42] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: 13.10
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> cool, i'll report a bug on the issue
[00:43] <demophobia> Is askubuntu.com the replacement of ubuntuforums for seeking technical support from the community?
[00:43] <pvl1> hitsujiTMO: yay i helped!
[00:43] <k1l_> demophobia: no, both is fine
[00:43] <k1l_> use what you like most
[00:43] <pvl1> hm
[00:43] <pvl1> !askubuntu
[00:43] <pvl1> mwahaha
[00:44] <demophobia> So askubuntu is a dedicated support resource, whereas ubuntuforums now merely happens to overlap with it in terms of having a forum where support may be found?
[00:45] <Spynxic> I'm trying to build libreoffice but it keeps failing at the mozilla module, I found a fix. It was to add --disable-mozilla to the configure file but I can't figure out where to add it
[00:45] <k1l_> demophobia: both is fine. use what you suits best.
[00:45] <k1l_> demophobia: there is no better or more official.
[00:46] <TJ-> Spynxic: If you're building the upstream source, then usually you'll do a "./configure --disable-mozilla" then "make"
[00:47] <haruto> Hi
[00:47] <haruto> How install polish language in gnome3.10 ?
[00:47] <demophobia> ok thanks
[00:48] <haruto> heh
[00:49] <constl> haruto: Check the "languages support" in dash
[00:50] <haruto> use gnomeubuntu
[00:50] <haruto> only english in setting
[00:52] <Spynxic> TJ-, Thanks
[00:53] <haruto> Use setting - Region and Language - Language - list 5 english, no polish language and add language button
[00:55]  * Autoclesis is now an expert DRAGGER of things
[00:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> nice
[00:55] <Autoclesis> :)
[00:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> it's always nice to get something like that, that should seem obvious but it's not, finally figured out :-)
[00:56] <somethingrandom> hey, how can i upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 daily build via terminal?
[00:56] <somethingrandom> or do i have to run the iso?
[00:56] <Autoclesis> WhatIsTheMatrix, right.
[00:56] <k1l_> somethingrandom: run update-manager with -d
[00:57] <edsiper> how can i fix this upgrade problem? "Broken iproute2:amd64 Conflicts on arpd [ amd64 ] < none > ( none )" ?
[00:57] <somethingrandom> never upgraded ubuntu to an unstable release before
[00:57] <haruto> in ubuntu gnome 3.10 have pl language, in gnomeubuntu not have pl language it is bad
[00:58] <k1l_> somethingrandom: be aware that something will break. its a dev release
[00:58] <somethingrandom> 13.10 breaks too much for me
[00:58] <somethingrandom> yeah
[00:58] <somethingrandom> the network manager and other stuff is crashing
[00:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fwiw, running 14.04 here
[00:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> but in kde
[00:59] <somethingrandom> eew :)
[00:59] <k1l_> and we have #ubuntu+1 for unstable support
[01:00] <haruto> i m use language-pack-gnome-pl download - very thank for help heh
[01:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> well, i could usr other WM's... but the ubuntu/unity desktop isn't stable here
[01:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> and i just thought i'd use kde for a while. i  like the 'compositing' feature, and it's working
[01:00] <somethingrandom> gnome 3 looks pretty sweet
[01:01] <haruto> gnome3.10 is very fast and nice gui
[01:01] <kostkon> WhatIsTheMatrix, qt5 is coming to unity too. unity 8 is qt5 based
[01:01] <Xgates> hey guys
[01:02] <kostkon> Xgates, hey
[01:02] <somethingrandom> haruto: what distro is good for gnome3.10, just fedora or does "gnubuntu" work too?
[01:02] <[[thufir]]> I just did a clean install, and vuze stopped working on the clean install.  I don't get it.  Is there some trick to connect to all the vuze networks?  I get zero users.  It passes the firewall test.
[01:02] <Xgates> who was I talking to before about plymouth/nvidia are you still here?
[01:02] <somethingrandom> i'm brand new to ubuntu, but unity seems meh
[01:02] <haruto> kde is very bad desing
[01:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> kostkon: rgr. i have some qt5 stuff installed on here
[01:03] <glitsj16> Xgates: me?
[01:03] <haruto> Gnome os started in 2014r
[01:03] <haruto> Font in kde is bad view
[01:03] <Xgates> glitsj16: ahh there you are :) here; --> http://tinyurl.com/owa22we
[01:03] <Xgates> that's all I've done before...
[01:03] <kostkon> WhatIsTheMatrix, yeah
[01:03] <somethingrandom> often the application icons randomly appear as additional icons in unity
[01:04] <somethingrandom> to the one i pinned
[01:04] <haruto> ohayo
[01:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> edsiper: hello. perhaps if you just uninstall 'arpd'? it wants to install 'iproute2'... correct?
[01:04] <glitsj16> Xgates: yes that looks very similar if not the same
[01:05] <Xgates> oh I thought you installed some apps?
[01:05] <Xgates> btw for resolution to check what is supported, grub/shift vbeinfo?
[01:05] <bekks> Xgates: yes.
[01:05] <Xgates> ok thx
[01:05] <Xgates> brb
[01:06]  * Xgates goes to check screen rez
[01:06] <glitsj16> Xgates: i installed hwinfo bacause that way you don't need to go thru the grub prompt, but that was no longer available to you on saucy
[01:06] <kostkon> [[thufir]], looks like a network problem (of some sort) to me
[01:06] <[[thufir]]> I just did a clean install, and vuze stopped working on the clean install.  I don't get it.  Is there some trick to connect to all the vuze networks?  I get zero users.  It passes the firewall test.   I think a static IP address will help.   what do I put in the netmask field? http://pastebin.com/zJJGz7WJ
[01:07] <bekks> [[thufir]]: The netmask of your network.
[01:07] <kostkon> [[thufir]], are you using the same jvm as before?
[01:09] <Xgates> back
[01:09] <Xgates> ok got a nice rez size :)
[01:09] <kostkon> Xgates, resolution?
[01:09] <Xgates> yeah for plymouth with nvidia, 1920x1080
[01:09] <glitsj16> Xgates: sweet
[01:10] <kostkon> Xgates, the native screen res i presume.
[01:10] <glitsj16> Xgates: what about the text ?
[01:10] <[[thufir]]> ohh, I didn't think of same jvm.  it was oracle before, now it's openjdk (iced tea).   I think it's the static IP address I had before.  I don't understand **what** netmask currently is.  how do I know my netmask?  ifconfig doesn't say "netmask" is _____  or gateway is ______
[01:10] <Xgates> now it looks better, BUT when I restart, I'll get text on the screen, hmm sure would be nice if that could be remove, hehe, I'm just trying to go for ultimate clean here if possible,,,
[01:11] <Xgates> glitsj16: just appears a little at restart showing some of the shutdown processes...
[01:11] <Xgates> I wonder if those can be silenced?
[01:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> edsiper: still here? you get it figured out?
[01:11] <Xgates> kostkon: yeah native...
[01:12] <[[thufir]]> what do I put for "gateway" when making a static ip address?    http://pastebin.com/zJJGz7WJ
[01:12] <glitsj16> Xgates: i have a blip of that too, just a sec though .. nothing i know that can silence that sorry .. but does it go to the plymouth screen after the blip ? the one with the dots i mean?
[01:12] <bekks> [[thufir]]: your default router ip.
[01:13] <gry> [[thufir]]: your modem address, <IP_ADDRESS> in some cases
[01:14] <Xgates> [[thufir]]: route -n
[01:14] <slimjimflim> hi i'm running 12.10 and every time i enter a password i get this silly prompt about not entering a keyring password.  i hit cancel and then keep doing what i was doing before.
[01:14] <[[thufir]]> gry:   yeah.....the computer connects with ethernet cable to a wifi adapter.  the wifi adapter connects wirelessly to the router....
[01:14] <slimjimflim> i don't want to store my passwords on the machine.  how can i make it go away?
[01:14] <Xgates> glitsj16: yeah I think I get screen after but it's fast, I forgot LOL, I have an ssd so it flys by
[01:14] <Xgates> but it's a lot better now
[01:14] <glitsj16> Xgates: lol
[01:15] <glitsj16> Xgates: you mentioned about trouble when returning from suspend as well ?
[01:15] <slimjimflim> computer problems?  blame bill gates.
[01:15] <[[thufir]]> do I input the open dns    servers like so:   <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>   or without a ,   ?
[01:16] <Xgates> glitsj16: yeah when I press the power button the screen comes back half dim, I haven't tested it over, but it did it once, I have an Asus G75VW I mainly run Slack in, but I'm using Ubuntu to see if I can make the F5/F6 work for the screen brightness as well as testing out some other things, Steam next hehe :)
[01:17] <Xgates> I read some people had the F5/F6 working after doing a suspend but it didn't work
[01:17] <glitsj16> Xgates: yeah these cosmetic things take time, and in this case functionality
[01:18] <Xgates> funny thing, when it comes to this laptop I everything working in it just as good in Slack as Ubuntu which I find odd that Ubuntu doesn't have better support
[01:18] <Xgates> laptop I  have
[01:18] <glitsj16> Xgates: i think that all depends on how well your hardware is supported, sometimes manufacturers offer extras for linux, sometimes not .. i was lucky to find a PPA for everything that didn't work out of the box
[01:20] <Aut0Exec> hi
[01:20] <Aut0Exec> anyone here?
[01:20] <bekks> Aut0Exec: type: /names
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | Aut0Exec
[01:21] <Xgates> anyone here LOL
[01:21] <Xgates> this channel always has someone in it...
[01:23] <glitsj16> Xgates: if you can manually change brightness you can always assign those as shortcuts
[01:23] <Xgates> glitsj16: I'm going to try nvidiabl; https://github.com/guillaumezin/nvidiabl and see if it works
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> ok good listen.. i need to be able to run internet explorer in ubuntu
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> how can i accomplish this?
[01:23] <Xgates> it's about the last shot for me, I've tried about every other thing out there...
[01:23] <Xgates> Aut0Exec: Wine
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: 1) wine 2) vm
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> does that work well?
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> wine works nice?
[01:23] <Xgates> yes or VM :)
[01:23] <Aut0Exec> kk
[01:24] <Xgates> yeah wine works good, but with IE hmm hard to tell, but you might be better off with using VirtualBox
[01:24] <Xgates> sheesh no one should ever need IE
[01:24] <Xgates> LMAO
[01:24] <Aut0Exec> lol yeah
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: Microsoft actually supply vms for linux with IE http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools
[01:25] <Xgates> what a lame website not supporting Firefox?
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: and you dont need a windows licence
[01:25] <glitsj16> Xgates: looks interesting, thx for the link
[01:25] <Aut0Exec> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[01:25] <Aut0Exec> ok
[01:26] <bekks> Now that sounds trustworthy... selfextracting vm archives. m(
[01:26] <Aut0Exec>  and you dont need a windows licence                                     . aca20031
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> 20:25:25      Aut0Exec | hitsujiTMO: thanks                                                                . acecipher
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> oops
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> sorry
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> :(
[01:26] <FloodBot1> Aut0Exec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:26] <Aut0Exec> accident
[01:27] <Xgates> glitsj16: np and thx for your help...
[01:28] <Xgates> glitsj16: well off to make a backup image before installing and trying that nvidiabl
[01:28] <Xgates> bbl
[01:28] <Xgates> cheers
[01:29] <nashant> Hey. Is it possible to boot from an mSATA SSD drive?
[01:31] <[[thufir]]> I switched over to a static ip address to get vuze working.  Is there a diagnostic I can run?  I don't understand why it doesn't work anymore.  (I just did a clean-install.)  Aside from switching to Oracle JVM/JDK, what else is there?  the "test firewall" comes back fine, but I see:   0 users
[01:35] <Aut0Exec> you guys think 6 gigs of memory makes a huge diff over 4
[01:35] <Aut0Exec> ?
[01:35] <ObrienDave> 50%
[01:35] <Aut0Exec> performace wise
[01:39] <bekks> Aut0Exec: Depends on the RAM usage of the system.
[01:39] <Aut0Exec> k
[01:39] <Aut0Exec> bekks: basic shit like playing a video game
[01:41] <pvl1> !language
[01:41] <Aut0Exec> oh yeah
[01:41] <Aut0Exec> sorry
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> my bad brother
[01:42] <bekks> Aut0Exec: still depends on the RAM usage of the system.
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> kk
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> kewl
[01:42] <Aut0Exec> i just got 4 new gigs
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> turns out.... my old ones were bad
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> omg
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> much better now
[01:43] <FloodBot1> Aut0Exec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <bekks> Aut0Exec: And unused RAM is wasted RAM, basically.
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> k
[01:43] <Aut0Exec> anyways... to many rules here... i'm leaving... thanks for the chat
[01:46] <mojtaba> Hi, I want to make a backup from my laptop, I want a differential one. Do you know what program is the best and which locations should be backed up? (I have used deja-dups, but it just gave me some unknown errors.) something except deja-dups is preferable.
[01:47] <mojtaba> or may be incremental
[01:47] <bekks> !backup | mojtaba
[01:48] <somsip> !info diff-backup | mojtaba
[01:48] <somsip> !info rdiff-backup | mojtaba
[01:49] <somsip> mojtaba: so I use that with a cronjob script such as http://paste.ubuntu.com/6654691/
[01:51] <mojtaba> somsip: this script is backing up which directories?
[01:51] <somsip> mojtaba: / exckuding those listed
[01:51] <mojtaba> somsip: Why they are not needed?
[01:52] <mojtaba> somsip: If I buy another laptop and I want to restore the current system on it. is it possible?
[01:52] <somsip> mojtaba: I dont want to backup trash, nor temp files, nor mount points, etc...
[01:52] <esde> so i just backed up and restored ubuntu desktop 12.04, and it's like nothing ever happened. what kind of sorcery IS THIS??
[01:53] <esde> and my whole backup was <5GB :D
[01:53] <somsip> mojtaba: don't know. Never had the need to do that.
[01:54] <mojtaba> somsip:  may I know your cron job settings too?
[01:54] <mojtaba> somsip: I just need to install rdiff-backup?
[01:55] <somsip> mojtaba: 30 6 * * * /usr/local/bin/backup_all.sh > /dev/null 2>&1
[01:56] <somsip> mojtaba: that's root's crontab though. And yes, just install rdiff-backup and amend the script to suit what you need
[01:56] <mojtaba> somsip: ok, thanks
[01:56] <somsip> mojtaba: np
[01:58] <nashant> Hey. Is it possible to boot from an mSATA SSD drive?
[01:58] <bekks> nashant: If your BIOS supports it, yes.
[01:58] <k1l_> nashant: of course, if the mainboard supports that
[01:58] <nashant> great. cheers guys
[01:58] <k1l_> !away > dziegler
[02:04] <newbie|3> hey guys sorry to bother but how do u get to applications  in  ubuntu?
[02:04] <newbie|3> anyone?
[02:05] <newbie|3> or accessories?
[02:05] <k1l_> what do you mean?
[02:08] <arvind> hi going to install ubuntu for my 64 bit laptop
[02:08] <Bashing-om>  newbie|3: What version and what desk top environment are you using, makes a BIG difference.
[02:08] <hipitihop> newbie, ubuntu software center
[02:15] <arvind> hello can anyone help me out
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !help
[02:16] <rembrandt> can i ask a question?
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !ask
[02:17] <rembrandt> can i ask a question, please?
[02:17] <arvind> installing ubuntu for my 64 bit OS want to know if i can go for ubuntu 10 from there can i update to ubuntu 13 or should i need to install ubuntu 13 (cant be updated)
[02:18] <bekks> arvind: Asking that question you should go with 12.04
[02:19] <arvind> bekks: that could mean need to change os every 1 year
[02:19] <dougl> is plymouth part of ubuntu?
[02:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: yes. apt-cache shows it as being "required"
[02:20] <dougl> thanks
[02:21] <dougl> my 13.10 install hangs on my plymouth splash screen - any chance it will fix itself... is it checking the disk or something - how can I tell what is messed up?
[02:22] <sdfsdfs> so is ubuntu touch friendly ?
[02:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: perhaps boot up into 'recovery mode' if you can and check logs
[02:22] <arvind> bekks: to get updates from repository if its still old (instead of not supported) so is there anyway i can get updates even its old ?
[02:23] <NoahFTW> finally
[02:23] <dougl> k thanks - err which log?
[02:24] <dougl> 13.04 boots fine on same machine
[02:24] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: do you know how to boot into recover mode? just checking...
[02:24] <arvind> can someone guide me
[02:24] <dougl> WhatIsTheMatrix, is a grub boot option no?
[02:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: i'd check... dmesg, syslog, kern.log, Xorg.0.log
[02:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: yes. you need to choose advanced options at the grub boot menu
[02:27] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: perhaps also, /var/lightdm/lightdm.log
[02:28] <pablo> warszawa
[02:32] <Bashing-om> arvind; I will try, what are you calling old ? Be aware End Of Life is no more support.
[02:35] <dougl> got it WhatIsTheMatrix
[02:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: what did you get?
[02:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: btw, all those log files i listed are in /var/log
[02:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: you mean you got my list of log files to check?
[02:36] <dougl> WhatIsTheMatrix, was a fstab entry for a removable drive that was not plugged in
[02:36] <dougl> all of the above
[02:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: ahhh, i see. good job
[02:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: did you discover it in a log file?
[02:38] <dougl> thanks for the pointers WhatIsTheMatrix ... nevr made it to the logs, was the booting up and noticed the 3 nfs mounts failed that were in fstab and then it said drive was not there to mount so skip or wait skipped and edited fstab and all good
[02:39] <WhatIsTheMatrix> dougl: cool. glad you to hear you got it solved :-)
[02:39] <dougl> yes thanks WhatIsTheMatrix
[02:39] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yw
[02:40] <dougiel> :)
[02:44] <linea> hah
[02:48] <hugoalmeida> could someone give-me some advices? I am from Brazil, just wanna install ubuntu here
[02:49] <bekks> !eol | arvind
[02:49] <pottersky> hugoalmeida: what sort of advice, other than going to ubuntu.com, downloading the image and install it from a usb stick? :P
[02:50] <mojtaba> somsip: could you please let me know how can I insert the root's password in cron?
[02:51] <mojtaba> somsip: I just made that scrip and I am now running it. but I want to set the cron job. I am doing it for the first time.
[02:51] <somsip> mojtaba: why would you need to do that? The cronjob should be in root's crontab
[02:51] <mojtaba> somsip: you mean I should put it where?
[02:51] <somsip> mojtaba: sudo crontab -e
[02:51] <hugoalmeida> Ive forgotten all about mirc
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> oh no
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> @pottersky ... testing
[02:52] <pottersky> :P
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> no..
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> this isnt @
[02:52] <hugoalmeida> lol
[02:52] <mojtaba> somsip: ok, thanks
[02:53] <hugoalmeida> pottersky .. well, I'll need to format my pc?
[02:53] <hugoalmeida> will I (sorry)
[02:58] <pottersky> not necessarily...
[02:58] <pottersky> if i'm not mistaken you can install it side-by-side with Win for example
[03:00] <hugoalmeida> pottersky is ubuntu complicated to use?
[03:01] <pottersky> not at all
[03:02] <hugoalmeida> pottersky merci
[03:02] <pottersky> :)
[03:02] <pottersky> falou
[03:02] <hugoalmeida> pottersky hahahahah
[03:03] <hugoalmeida> pottersky o que ainda funciona no irc?
[03:03] <hugoalmeida> algum canal pra fazer algo? (antigamente era proibido falar de canal em qualquer canal)....
[03:03] <hugoalmeida> nem sei se é aidna
[03:06] <mojtaba> somsip: Is there any way to run the cron jobs when the external hard drive is available?
[03:07] <somsip> mojtaba: on event or at a certain time?
[03:08] <mojtaba> somsip: I want to make it weekly, but if the time passed, run the backup whenever the external hard drive is present.
[03:09] <somsip> mojtaba: no idea on that one. You probably need to hook into something that can monitor events, so that 'when ext drive is plugged in, run this script' Maybe dbus. I'm guessing
[03:11] <jeffrey_f> hugoalmeida.  #ubuntu-pt
[03:11] <mojtaba> somsip: is it possible to use 'if' statement? if the mounted point is equal to the path?
[03:12] <somsip> mojtaba: yes, but that will only occur when the script is run. So at 6:30am if the mountpoint is populated, run the script. Which is not what you said you wanted
[03:14] <hugoalmeida> jeffrey_f valew
[03:15] <mojtaba> somsip: yes, you are right
[03:15] <somsip> mojtaba: so either you only backup at a fixed time if the drive is present, or you find some way of hooking into the mount event and run it then
[03:18] <Xgates> hi guys
[03:18] <Xgates> For Dash I'm not interested in the ability to do a search in it, is there a way to remove the Search section at the top of Dash?
[03:24] <bonez2046> My laptop hard drive crashed. Acer is replacing the drive. I want to reinstall win 8 but also want dual boot 13.04. Do I load win 8 first and then 13.04 or what's the best approach on a new drive?
[03:25] <Xgates> install Win8 first so Ubuntu will add it later into Grub
[03:25] <Spynxic> building a program is mind numbingly boring
[03:26] <bonez2046> Xgates: Is this because win 8 wants to think it's in command?
[03:26] <bonez2046> do I set up the partitioning first, from win 8 install or after it's installed completely?
[03:27] <Xgates> Install Ubuntu first and Win8 will wipe it out the bootloader/grub
[03:27] <bonez2046> I'd think I want 3 partitions; 1) win 8, 2) ubuntu, and 3) data
[03:27] <bonez2046> ok
[03:27] <Gerowen> I have a USB serial cable connected to a router I want to configure using PuTTy, how can I tell what /dev/foo device it is?
[03:27] <Xgates> you install second for whichever bootloader you want in control...
[03:28] <rosenthal> HI there, I just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 12.10 and the machine fails to boot. on reboot
[03:28] <rosenthal> now what
[03:29] <rosenthal> anyone there?
[03:29] <somsip> !patience | rosenthal
[03:30] <bonez2046> I'd want grub to control the loading
[03:30] <rosenthal> thanks, im kind of new to this
[03:30] <bonez2046> we are all here, rosenthal
[03:30] <aeaglez> How do I update Ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 13?
[03:30] <somsip> rosenthal: it's a common complaint, but not one I'm experienced with so just hang on and maybe repeat the question every 15 mins or so
[03:31] <bonez2046> aegis: if you run update-manager it should indicate you can upgrade there
[03:31] <bonez2046> aeaglez: if you run update-manager it should indicate you can upgrade there
[03:31] <somsip> aeaglez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113373
[03:31] <bonez2046> aeaglez: just follow the prompts
[03:32] <aeaglez> bonez2046, it does not indictate that i have an avaiable update
[03:33] <rosenthal> I keep ending with a black screen. I am also able to reach the grub screen and enter recovery mode if that helps
[03:34] <bonez2046> aeaglez: ok, so you launch update-manager and it updates or is it all up to date?
[03:34] <xangua> aeaglez: you can not directly upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 13.04 or 13.10
[03:35] <bonez2046> aeaglez: mine says The software on this computer is up to date. However, Ubuntu 13.04 is now available (you have 12.10).
[03:35] <aeaglez> it says no new updates available
[03:35] <rosenthal> aeaglez: run update-manager -d under an admin.
[03:35] <bonez2046> xangua: why does my system say the update is available, and  yet aeaglez system does not?
[03:36] <bonez2046> every update I have run from 9.x upward for ubuntu has been a point and click operation
[03:36] <aeaglez> yea it just showed up
[03:36] <aeaglez> ubuntu 13.04 is available
[03:36] <bonez2046> now it's giving that option?
[03:36] <aeaglez> 14.04**
[03:36] <bonez2046> cool, back up whatever you want saved
[03:36] <aeaglez> yes it is
[03:37] <aeaglez> am i certain i am going to loose everything ?
[03:37] <xangua> aeaglez: 14.04 is in development and not yet stable
[03:38] <aeaglez> xangua, will it work just for c++, html5,css3,etc?
[03:38] <SonikkuAmerica> aeaglez: It will, but at this time it cannot be recommended for use on production machines!
[03:39] <aeaglez> SonikkuAmerica, ok so how do i update to 13.04 only, or i cannot?
[03:39] <aeaglez> SonikkuAmerica, should i boot it on a live CD?
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> **14.04
[03:39] <xangua> aeaglez: you will need to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 and then from 12.10 to 13.04
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> aeaglez: Yes, 12.04 LTS > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10
[03:40] <aeaglez> xangua, so if press the 14.04 button, will it automatically jump me to 14.04 or will it take me to 12.10 first?
[03:41] <Dildo> I have a dildo up my ass
[03:41] <xangua> !ops | Dildo
[03:42] <rosenthal>  HI there, I just upgraded from 12.04 LTS to 12.10 and the machine fails to boot on reboot, I keep ending with a black screen. I am also able to reach the grub screen and enter recovery mode if that helps
[03:45] <sam_> ok I installed ubuntu and its grub boot loader in same partition. now my pc won't get into ubuntu when I reboot my pc. how can I make mbr give me ubuntu choice?
[03:46] <somsip> rosenthal: exact copy of your problem that's worth following through: http://askubuntu.com/questions/271011/black-screen-on-boot-after-upgrade-to-12-10-from-12-04
[03:47] <FlacBean02> Is there a tool/command I can run that will tell me what version of PCI-E I have?
[03:47] <Gerowen> How can I find out what /dev/foo device my USB serial cable is so I can plug it into PuTTy to configure this router?
[03:49] <sweetgman> anyone know about LemonPOS?
[03:49] <walterwoj> Is it normal for /boot to be 400+ mb?
[03:51] <sweetgman> no chatter like usual i don't know why i keep coming in here
[03:51] <rosenthal> Would booting to the 12.10 live cd do the trick?
[03:52] <somsip> walterwoj: if you never delete anything out of it, quite possibly
[03:53] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FlacBean02: yes
[03:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FlacBean02: sudo lspci -vvv
[03:55] <FlacBean02> Good stuff Thanks!
[03:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> FlacBean02: you're welcome
[03:55] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: you are cool
[03:55] <aeaglez> I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i want to upgrade, the only option that update manager is giving me is to upgrade straight to 14.04, what do i do?
[03:55] <walterwoj> I have been having disk space troubles lately.  Last month I ran out of Inodes and today it says no space left but when I look at the directory sizes they don't add up to the total space.
[03:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: haha, thanks. i'm just a regular person. just a casual gnu/linux user really.
[03:56] <slimjimflim> walterwoj: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-large-files-linux/
[03:56] <slimjimflim> walterwoj: i think the one that would help you is:  find {/path/to/directory} -type f -size +{file-size-in-kb}k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'
[03:57] <slimjimflim> use / for your path
[03:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: guess i'll take it as a compliment anyway. never sure what someone means by that. sometimes people are being flippant when they say that
[03:57] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: nope i'm serious
[03:57] <gerry_> i <3 lubuntu
[03:57] <hsgswre> Is anyone able to assist me real quickly
[03:57] <slimjimflim> hsgswre: don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:57] <Cajunfiend> im getting an error "update information is outdated" in a red (!) in my taskbar. anyone know what that is? i tried apt-get updating
[03:57] <hsgswre> k
[03:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: you look pretty cool there yourself ;-) looks like you know your sed/awk and whatnot!
[03:58] <hsgswre> trying to switch to win8 off of an elementary disc
[03:58] <hsgswre> i have no idea what to do
[03:58] <hsgswre> any suggestion
[03:58] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: well i know how to google it at least :P
[03:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: rgr that. it always  comes in handy i must say
[03:58] <somsip> !anyone | hsgswre
[03:58] <somsip> hsgswre: and how does this relate to ubuntu?
[03:58] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: yea i use sed and awk a lot
[03:58] <hsgswre> I'm running a ubuntu distribution
[03:58] <hsgswre> how does that not relate
[03:59] <slimjimflim> hsgswre: ubottu is a robot
[03:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: rgr. i leanred some of it a while back. forgotten most of it now. didn't use linux for quite some time, so rusty
[03:59] <slimjimflim> he was responding to what i just said
[03:59] <hsgswre> k
[03:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> learned*
[03:59] <somsip> hsgswre: "win8" and "elementary" implied you were doing something with win8 and elementary. So explain more...
[03:59] <slimjimflim> WhatIsTheMatrix: yea it's super handy
[03:59] <hsgswre> K
[03:59] <hsgswre> I'm trying to switch to Win8 over ElemetaryOS
[03:59] <hsgswre> It's not allowing me to run the exe
[04:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> slimjimflim: rgr
[04:00] <slimjimflim> hsgswre: you should go to #elementaryos and ask there
[04:00] <somsip> hsgswre: you were running win8/ubuntu dual boot and now you want to run elemtary/ubuntu dual boot?
[04:00] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:00] <hsgswre> nah not dual boot, i'm currently running off a elementary temporary disc
[04:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> what is elementary os? i've heard it mentioned several times
[04:00] <AlecTaylor> How do I restore the default login screen? - Some KDE stuff was installed, which I removed; and now my login screen is different (white background &etc)
[04:00] <slimjimflim> idk, but the channel exists
[04:00] <slimjimflim> and there are ppl in it
[04:00] <hsgswre> it's usually dead
[04:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> oh
[04:01] <somsip> hsgswre: so you're running elementary not ubuntu. You need elementaryos support
[04:01] <slimjimflim> is that like mint or something?
[04:01] <hsgswre> sort of
[04:01] <haha> hello
[04:01] <haha> everyon
[04:01] <Logan_> somsip: elementary can be run as packages on top of Ubuntu, which would fall under our scope, I think...
[04:01] <slimjimflim> haha: don't ask to ask, just ask
[04:02] <aeaglez> should i upgrade to ubuntu 14.04? From 12.04?
[04:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: not sure. do you still get the 'lightdm' to login with?
[04:02] <slimjimflim> isn't 13.x the next lts version?
[04:02] <slimjimflim> i was thinking about upgrading to that
[04:02] <Logan_> aeaglez: If you're looking for long-term support, you should at least wait until 14.04 is in its final release.
[04:02] <somsip> Logan_: erm...ok. I understand that the 'elementary temporary disc; was a eOS boot disc but maybe not.
[04:02] <AlecTaylor> Not sure WhatIsTheMatrix
[04:02] <gerry_> i heard elementary os was very good.. never tried it
[04:02] <aeaglez> slimjimflim, idk the only option it is giving me is to upgrade straight to 14.04
[04:02] <hsgswre> i hate it
[04:03] <walterwoj> when I do: sudo du . -d1 -h it tells me that . is 6.8gb but when I add all the directories up they do not total 6.8 gb
[04:03] <slimjimflim> gotcha Logan_
[04:03] <Logan_> aeaglez: You probably have development releases turned on in your config.
[04:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> aeaglez: depends on how bad you want to run a  'testing' version of the os... i am running it right now
[04:03] <jakezen> hey guys
[04:03] <gerry_> i'm too used to lubuntu to change
[04:04] <slimjimflim> i've been using xubuntu forever.  now i'm back on plain ubuntu.  don't really like it in comparison
[04:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: you could try...  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' and see if that does anything
[04:04] <gerry_> quidsup gave elementary os #2 best distro of 2013
[04:04] <gerald> hi all
[04:04] <slimjimflim> but now i'm kinda an vanilla ubuntu noob again
[04:04] <FlacBean02> Here is a snippet of the output of lspci http://pastebin.com/A1R8erWT Just to make sure I'm reading this right, I have version 2.0 of PCI-E correct?
[04:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: you'll probably need to  restart X to see if it does
[04:04] <jakezen> i tried elementary os for a week
[04:04] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: I ran it, will test when I logout next
[04:04] <slimjimflim> is there a command to switch from vanilla ubuntu to xubuntu?
[04:04] <AlecTaylor> Thanks
[04:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: okay. i have my doubts that will return the original login background, but worth a try
[04:05] <rosenthal> Hi users, I updated ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and I am seeing a flat black image uppon reboot...any ideas???
[04:05] <AlecTaylor> Mmm, well if you think of anything else do tell
[04:06] <jakezen> overall elementary is good with some bugs, it crashed after i upgraded the kernel to 3.11
[04:06] <slimjimflim> rosenthal: do you get to grub?
[04:06] <gerry_> slimjimflim you could install the xubuntu-desktop on top of it and choose xubuntu on your lightdm login screen
[04:06] <jakezen> 2x
[04:06] <gerald> im willing to give 1 million dollars to any team of devs that can make a streamline linux distro within 6 months with full windows compatibility
[04:06] <jony> 安装N卡驱动失败后 卸载 NVIDIA X Server Settings 在设置管理器里删不掉怎么办
[04:06] <somsip> !zh | jony
[04:06] <slimjimflim> gerry_: what's lightdm?
[04:06] <rosenthal> slimjimflim: Im able to access grub. What do I change
[04:06] <slimjimflim> gerry_: are you talking about a separate partition?
[04:07] <Cajunfiend> im getting an error "update information is outdated" in a red (!) in my taskbar. anyone know what that is? i tried apt-get updating
[04:07] <Logan_> Cajunfiend: Do you get any errors after doing an apt-get update?
[04:07] <slimjimflim> rosenthal: you could try one of the previous images
[04:07] <somsip> Cajunfiend: what version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <gerry_> slimjimflim no... go to the terminal and type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop... and you'll have xubuntu as a choice in your login.. no partition needed
[04:07] <slimjimflim> gerry_: score
[04:07] <Cajunfiend> 13.10 and yes i get errors for launchpad for some reason
[04:07] <Cajunfiend> ppa.launchpad.net
[04:07] <Logan_> Cajunfiend: Pastebin your output. It's probably a dead PPA.
[04:07] <Logan_> !pastebin | Cajunfiend
[04:08] <gerry_> slimjimflim i have vanilla ubuntu, ubuntu gnome remix, xubuntu, and lubuntu all in one distro
[04:08] <gerald> is any one listening to what i just said?
[04:08] <somsip> gerald: do you have a real support question?
[04:08] <Logan_> !offtopic | gerald
[04:09] <rosenthal> slimjimflim: I booted off the 12.04 live CD, 12.10 is installed. Can I downgrade from there?
[04:09] <gerry_> my favorite being lubuntu because it's so lightweight and tbh looks just as good as any eye-candy desktop depending on how you design it
[04:09] <walterwoj> gerald:   No one here wastes time on nonsense like that
[04:09] <gerry_> put the panel on top, made it black, added docky and compositing.. and i'm good to go
[04:09] <gerald> i wasnt kidding @ walterwoj
[04:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: you might also do the following....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter
[04:09] <Cajunfiend> Logan_, thanks. I fixed it. was a bad ppa :)
[04:10] <Logan_> Cajunfiend: Awesome, good to hear! :)
[04:10] <kostkon> gerald, kidding or not we just don't care
[04:10] <walterwoj> gerald:  If you were serious you would hire a firm to do that for you, not trolling here, goodbye
[04:10] <gerald> ok thank you for your time
[04:12] <gerald> wasnt trolling jus wanted to help the linux community with a project but noone seems to have the will
[04:12] <Xgates> anyone know if there's a way to remove the Search section at the top of Dash?
[04:12] <Logan_> gerald: In any case, that discussion doesn't belong in this channel. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of thing.
[04:13] <jakezen> no sweat gerald
[04:13] <rosenthal> So how would I change the grub file for it to boot correctly
[04:13] <gerald> ok thanks for pointing me to the right people
[04:14] <ner0x> Is there a way to play my files from my linux box streamed to my PS3?
[04:15] <gerry_> lol that was such a troll suggestion.. just use wine
[04:16] <ioda> stop your noob
[04:16] <Logan_> !upnp | ner0x
[04:16] <ioda> SHERAPY
[04:16] <ner0x> Logan_++ # Thank you sir/ma'am.
[04:18] <jakezen> any1 tried tvtime
[04:18] <Logan_> What on earth is an iRadio? Hmm.
[04:18] <Logan_> ner0x: Sir. :) And you might also want to look into MiniDLNA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA
[04:19] <rosenthal> Should I just revert to the LTS i originialy had working?
[04:21] <jakezen> 12.04.3 is solid
[04:21] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:22] <AlecTaylor> It didn't work, still have white background login screen :\
[04:23] <mojtaba> somsip: in 30 6 * * * /usr/local/bin/backup_all.sh > /dev/null 2>&1, what is > /dev/null2>&1 exactly?
[04:23] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: It didn't work
[04:24] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: rgr
[04:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: it was worth a try. did you  also do? although that probably isn't it either --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter
[04:26] <somsip> mojtaba: redirects output to somewhere that doesn't matter
[04:26] <mojtaba> > /dev/null this one redirects the output. what does this one do? 2>&1?
[04:26] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: Yeah, I did do the unity-greeter one also
[04:27] <AlecTaylor> mojtaba: Redirects all stdin and stderr input
[04:28] <somsip> mojtaba: redirects both stdout and stderr to dev/null
[04:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: rgr. what do you get from the following? --> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:28] <mojtaba> AlecTaylor: somsip: Why you have put it at the end? 2>&1
[04:29]  * AlecTaylor got /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:29] <AlecTaylor> ^ WhatIsTheMatrix
[04:29]  * AlecTaylor got /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:30] <somsip> mojtaba: because that is the required syntax
[04:30] <mojtaba> somsip: ok, thank you very much. I learned a lot today
[04:31] <mojtaba> somsip: I get some errors while running the backup.
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/domainname Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.52 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/nisdomainname Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.101 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/uncompress Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.157 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> UpdateError bin/ypdomainname Updated mirror temp file /media/mojtaba/Elements1/Mojtaba/DellStudio1555_partialBackup/bin/rdiff-backup.tmp.163 does not match source
[04:31] <mojtaba> SpecialFileError home/.ecryptfs/mojtaba/.Private/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWY41TOB6SxmakRu4P0KQvV3FShxAuM3iBU7CYPnkNV-4tZNSpZbPw90vU--/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWY41TOB6SxmakRu4P0KQvV3FShxAuM3iBU73F6GaaIm-E3devUiPnv9b--- Socket error: AF_UNIX path too long
[04:31] <FloodBot1> mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <somsip> mojtaba: here is some light reading http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2006/06/06/what-does-devnull-21-mean/
[04:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: rgr. yeah, i don't know what package would restore it. it's gotta be one of them tho! if you state the issue again perhaps someone else will know
[04:32] <mojtaba> somsip: Do you know what are those errors?
[04:36] <somsip> mojtaba: no. I'd guess they are rdiff-backup errors
[04:36] <mojtaba> somsip: how can I ensure if the backup is correct?
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> hi I have a quick question, the answer might be obvious, i dunno
[04:37] <ranger> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new computer, but have ran into an issue i have never seen before. I was able to go through the whole install, but during the install, and afterwords, I am unable to properly interact with "windows" meaning I cannot move a window around on the screen or click buttons on it, as if it wasn't even there, but I can use keyboard controls just fine. Does anyone know of this problem and have a solut
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> you know how when you login, it should show $path before the command yuou're typing?
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> wait should I specifically join a server channel?
[04:37] <forresthopkinsa> is there a separate server channel?
[04:38] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, you are already in #ubuntu
[04:38] <forresthopkinsa> ok...
[04:38] <AlecTaylor> WhatIsTheMatrix: Alright, I'll ask in a few hours
[04:38] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, go on
[04:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> AlecTaylor: ok, good luck
[04:38] <somsip> mojtaba: verify it. And the answer to your next question is to read the manual
[04:38] <forresthopkinsa> instead of showing the homepath before the command line, it just shows $
[04:38] <forresthopkinsa> on a new user i made
[04:39] <ranger> Has anyone ran into my problem themselves, or heard of it otherwise before?
[04:39] <forresthopkinsa> would screenshots be helpful?
[04:40] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, w8 you asked if there is an ubuntu server channel?
[04:40] <forresthopkinsa> mm hmm
[04:40] <kostkon> !server | forresthopkinsa
[04:40] <kostkon> hmm
[04:40] <kostkon> forresthopkinsa, #ubuntu-server
[04:40] <forresthopkinsa> what
[04:41] <forresthopkinsa> ok thanks
[04:41] <forresthopkinsa> mm hmm thanks
[04:41] <somsip> kostkon: ubottu is sleepy-slow today...
[04:41] <kostkon> somsip, heh
[04:42] <mikodo> too much turkey
[04:43] <somsip> mikodo: hehe
[04:43] <ranger> Does anyone know why I am not able to use "windows" as in a window on the desktop (instance of firefox, file manager, etc) properly? I am not able to use my mouse to drag them around the screen, or click buttons on them. It's as if the windows don't exist, but I can use keyboard controls just fine.
[04:48] <ranger> Is anyone familiar with my issue?
[04:49] <Cheeseball> Hi! I just had a simple question. I like the mpv media player (https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv). I see Ubuntu has the mpv package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpv. If a new version of mpv is released, will Ubuntu update the package so it's the newest version, or will I have to add a PPA, like https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/mpv-tests? I'm just asking because I saw this https://askubuntu.com/questions/151283/why-dont-the-ubuntu
[04:49] <Cheeseball> -repositories-have-the-latest-versions-of-software.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: no, sorry. i take it you do have a mouse pointer
[04:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> howdy lotuspsychje
[04:49] <ranger> I do have a mouse pointer, but it doesn't do anything, or interact with anything.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Cheeseball: normally it will update itself
[04:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: does it move?
[04:50] <somsip> Cheeseball: dpends on the release. Minor releases do get upgraded usually, but major releases won't. I think that's the general rule of thumb anyway
[04:50] <ranger> Yes
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: hello mate :p
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: roger. sorry i don't know
[04:50] <Cheeseball> Should I add the PPA anyway just to be safe and make sure I don't miss anything?
[04:50] <yick2> Can I use mouse for left handed option and not disable the touch pad tap click ?
[04:50] <ranger> Ok, thanks, I appreciate the acknolegment of my problem :)
[04:50] <Logan_> Cheeseball: You'll usually have to wait until the next release of Ubuntu because stable release updates are usually only for minor updates.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Cheeseball
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: sure. you just installed?
[04:51] <ranger> Yes
[04:51] <ranger> I tried 13.10 and 12.04
[04:51] <Logan_> Cheeseball: Bear in mind that PPAs don't have the same kind of support/quality (necessarily) that official, Ubuntu repository packages do.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an all-in-one gui ssd tweak package, anyone seen something like this?
[04:52] <Cheeseball> Alright, thanks. So what you're saying is that if the package got updated, it'd just be for security updates/bugfixes?
[04:52] <somsip> Cheeseball: pretty much how it seems to be to me
[04:52] <Logan_> Cheeseball: For the most part, yes. Unless it's backported, which doesn't happen all that often due to the complexity involved.
[04:52] <Cheeseball> Oh, alright, thanks.
[04:53] <Logan_> If you like having a rolling release with all of the latest versions of packages, try Debian.
[04:53] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: roger that. perhaps something that needs to be installed has not been installed yet.
[04:54] <Cheeseball> Hm. That's what I would like, a rolling release distro, but Arch is a bit of a hassle to set up, and I hear Debian freezes packages too, and they generally make choices I don't agree with (Iceweasel instead of Firefox, and not including wifi drivers in the name of freedom)
[04:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: do you have this package installed yet? --> xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[04:54] <ranger> Mabye, but I don't know what that could be, as the problem persisted in the installation for ubuntu (though the problem only seems to exist if there are 2+ windows open)
[04:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: oh. that does sound strange
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Cheeseball: better stay on ubuntu, the most popular Os :p
[04:55] <ranger> unless thats a default package, I don't have it, as I ran the install about an hour ago
[04:55] <sherry> Hi, I am looking for a file system benchmarking tool that can generate i/o from distribution of file sizes, any suggestion?
[04:55] <Xgates> in Saucy how can you disable automount of usb devices for FIles 3.8.2?
[04:55] <Cheeseball> Oh well. Tough for me I guess. I guess I'll install Xubuntu and add the PPA. Thanks for clarifying that, guys.
[04:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: run this command to see if you have it --> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[04:55] <Xgates> Files 3.8.2 ....
[04:56] <Xgates> I can't believe for a filemanger there are no preferences options...
[04:56] <Xgates> hmm
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: did you check the 'details' icon?
[04:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: if you have it, the first two chars will be --> ii
[04:56] <ranger> Ok, I'll try that, but i'm actually booted into windows on the computer in question atm
[04:56] <ranger> Ok, thx
[04:56] <yick2> Can the left hand mouse option Not disable the touch pad tap to click ?
[04:57] <ranger> I'll see if I can open this tab on my tablet
[04:57] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: what is the details icon?
[04:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: you pretty new to gnu/linux?
[04:57] <Logan_> sherry: Does this seem like what you're looking for? http://www.iozone.org/ You can install it with sudo apt-get install iozone3
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: where you can chose what to do, when you plugin media
[04:58] <ranger> I have used Ubuntu before, but I never got very familiar with terminal.
[04:58] <ranger> I was more of a copy - paster
[04:58] <sherry> Logan_: I got the whole list bt I am not sure that iozone can generate workloads from the "distribution of file sizes"
[04:58] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: ahhh System Settings, nope nothing there for USB
[04:58] <Logan_> sherry: Okay, was a shot in the dark. Perhaps someone else knows something better... :/
[04:59] <ranger> I am not very familiar with gnu specifiacally though
[04:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: it might be helpful if you could be running when trying to get help. but you'd probably need to be at a 'virtual console' and running irssi(an irc chat client). so you'd need to familiarize yourself some with irssi
[04:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: running ubuntu* when trying to get help
[04:59] <sherry> Logan_:thanks btw
[05:00] <ranger> Yeah, thats a fair point
[05:00] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: ok I checked 'Never prompt or start programs on media insertion' and that did the trick... thanks... :)
[05:00] <ranger> I'm trying to pull up this irc on another device so I can boot to ubuntu
[05:00] <Logan_> sherry: No problem!
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: thats what i meant :p
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Xgates
[05:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: gnu is some of the software made for linux. GNU is headed up by richard stallman --> www.gnu.org
[05:01] <Xgates> LOL, I'm so use to file managers with the settings in them...
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: check also this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[05:01] <Xgates> never thought to look at the system settings hehe
[05:01] <ranger_> test
[05:02] <ranger_> Ok, thanks, I'll check that out
[05:02] <ranger_> Rebooting to ubuntu
[05:02] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: I'm a Linux Geek, just not a Ubuntu user, I know how to manually mount, but thanks...
[05:02]  * Xgates is a Slacker actually...
[05:02] <Xgates> SpaceFM
[05:02] <Xgates> WoOT
[05:02] <excalibr> How do you mount one of the partitions in raw image?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: ok welcome to the ubuntu community
[05:02] <Xgates> lotuspsychje: http://ignorantguru.github.io/spacefm/
[05:03] <forresthopkinsa> Hey, someone help me please! I was asking the people in the server channel, but they're pretty unresponsive. since it's command-line, I suppose I can ask for help here also?
[05:03] <Xgates> Well I'm not new to Ubuntu hehe, been around it since it was born, just don't use it all that often...
[05:03] <ranger_> What was that command again, to checck for mouse input?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Xgates: plz use this channel for ubuntu support only, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | forresthopkinsa
[05:03] <excalibr> How do you mount one of the partitions in raw image?
[05:04] <Xgates> out for now thanks again...
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !mount | excalibr
[05:04] <forresthopkinsa> I made a new user, but it's having some problems. The issues and screenshots are both located at http://imgur.com/ioU5RJ2
[05:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: when you are at a virtual console, you'll want to install a package called 'gpm' so that you can copy and paste at the virtual consoles
[05:04] <ranger_> When I rebooted, into ubuntu, I lost the command you told me to run, what was it again?
[05:05] <ranger_> OK
[05:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: --> dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[05:05] <ranger_> thx
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: can you tell us what you did, and what you like to acchieve?
[05:07] <forresthopkinsa> I created a new user, Jacob. When I log into his profile using SSH, the prompt should show "jacob@Neptune:~$" before the commands I enter. Instead, it just shows the $. You can see the difference between my profile and his side by side at http://imgur.com/ioU5RJ2
[05:07] <ranger_> Yes, I have that package installed
[05:07] <forresthopkinsa> His profile also does not work with /etc/bash.bashrc aliases and functions.
[05:08] <excalibr> lotuspsychje, that help page barely touch mount usage
[05:08] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I do have that installed.
[05:08] <excalibr> it's so lack of depth
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> excalibr: what are you trying to mount exactly mate?
[05:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: ok. like i  said, i don't know what's wrong, sorry. i'm still guessing that the problem is that something that needs to be installed is not installed on your fresh install of ubuntu yet. dunno tho
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: did you the glmatrix from xscreensaver?
[05:09] <excalibr> a single partition in raw disk image
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> *try
[05:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: what video card do you have and do you know what driver it's using?
[05:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: yes, i have tried it before. you bet! ;-)
[05:10] <somsip> forresthopkinsa: how did you add the user? What was the command you used?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: just installed it, removed gnome saver looking nicely on my fresh system
[05:11] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I have a nvidia gtx 770m, idk what driver its using, probably whatever ubuntu uses by default
[05:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: that's a real new nvidia card?
[05:11] <forresthopkinsa> useradd -g summit jacob
[05:11] <forresthopkinsa> somsip: useradd -g summit jacob
[05:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: really new laptop?
[05:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: cool. i  love xscreensaver and the -gl and extras for it :)
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: just had to set it in startup items xscreensaver -nosplash
[05:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: rgr that
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> djtorr3: wb, have you been able to fix your issue?
[05:15] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: still here?
[05:16] <forresthopkinsa> somsip: should I just delete the user and recreate it?
[05:16] <forresthopkinsa> http://imgur.com/ioU5RJ2
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: any errors on ssh in /var/log/auth ?
[05:16] <ranger> back, for some reason I stoped recieving irc text updates after you asked about the laptop
[05:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: roger
[05:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: really new laptop?
[05:17] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix: Idk if my previous msgs got through, but yeah it's new, just got it this summer. Sager np8235
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16650/create-a-new-ssh-user-on-ubuntu-server
[05:18] <somsip> forresthopkinsa: have a look at man useradd. I'm too busy to help further. Sorry
[05:18] <forresthopkinsa> ok...
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: look at the url, maybe you overlooked something?
[05:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: perhaps you should enable the 'restricted' repository(for proprietary driver for hardware devices) if it isn't already  enabled and install the nvidia-319 drivers
[05:19] <forresthopkinsa> ok im reading it
[05:19] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix: Is there a command for that, because all I have access to is the terminal, as I cant open new programms, or switch between them if I do open one
[05:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: yeah. pretty new then. might be a hardware issue
[05:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: do you know how to use a terminal text editor? i myself know just enough to be dangerous with 'vim'
[05:21] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix: Yeah, it might be. I thought that since this time I got a computer with intel and nvidia, I would get better hardware support, but that may not be true
[05:22] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix:  I do not
[05:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: really new hardware can be a little flaky with gnu/linux sometimes
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ranger: whats your ubuntu version mate?
[05:23] <forresthopkinsa> well my auth.log says that some IP that I don't recognize has been spamming my server trying to login as root o.O
[05:23] <ranger> WhatIsTheMatrix:  I'm on 13.10, but I also saw the problem on 12.04
[05:24] <ranger> lotuspsychje: ^^ what I said to matix
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !info denyhosts | forresthopkinsa
[05:24] <forresthopkinsa> they havent gotten in yet though
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> Failed password for root from <IP_ADDRESS> port 1422 ssh2
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: well it would be prudent to be cautious, alot of ssh hammering going on
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> ._.
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> that is stupid
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: what is?
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> what does a game server matetr to anyone
[05:25] <forresthopkinsa> that people would try to hack me
[05:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> because they can?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: they always have an own purpose to use your machine
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !security | forresthopkinsa
[05:26] <forresthopkinsa> ugh. humans suck.
[05:26] <forresthopkinsa> well they havent gotten in, in fact, they have been faced with
[05:26] <forresthopkinsa> Disconnecting: Too many authentication failures for root [preauth]
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: we can also learn from this, to tighten our system
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> it all depends how you look at it
[05:27] <forresthopkinsa> I'm going to do a geo-IP lookup
[05:28] <forresthopkinsa> see if I can find where these login attempts are coming from
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: maybe focus on your user issue :p
[05:28] <forresthopkinsa> good point
[05:28] <forresthopkinsa> I'm just going to delete it and recreate it, after I check the ssh config
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> forresthopkinsa: your going to see alot of ssh hammering, and if its comming from botnets, its useless you track them
[05:29] <forresthopkinsa> hm ok
[05:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger: you could install 'nano'. it's supposed to be a pretty user-friendly terminal text editor
[05:30] <forresthopkinsa> Vi is better ;)
[05:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> forresthopkinsa: well yeah. i use vim myself. although i don't know much about it other than just enough to do simple editing
[05:31] <forresthopkinsa> lol same
[05:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rgr
[05:31]  * lotuspsychje likes syntax highlighting in editors
[05:31] <ranger_> There, now I can see things you guys type
[05:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: cool
[05:32] <noideas> I have just added files to one of my internal hard drives, and when I tried to access them the drive was not responding normal (i think it was the way the files where named). I renamed files and restarted my file server now a get a message saying hdd busy or not present, any ideas?
[05:32] <ranger_> was trying to use chrome on android to do it, but it was bugging out, so I just pulled out my old laptop
[05:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: you could install 'nano'. it's supposed to be a pretty user-friendly terminal text editor. or i could try and walk you through using vim
[05:33] <forresthopkinsa> get a real android irc client -.-
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> noideas: can you do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play around with your hd, see if you get any errors
[05:33] <forresthopkinsa> well no bigger screens are always better :P
[05:33] <forresthopkinsa> nevermind im blabbering
[05:34] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[05:34] <hkr> AndIRC is good.
[05:34] <chverma79> hmmmm
[05:34] <forresthopkinsa> personally I use the Chrome desktopApp "CIRC"
[05:35] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: nano is already installed, and idk what vim is
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> ranger: man vim in terminal
[05:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: ok. i'm not familiar with using nano, just fyi
[05:36] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: The terminal is acting wierd, after a few seconds, it will act as if it is not the current window in focus, and stops recieving input (blinking cursor also goes empty)
[05:37] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I think it might be a deeper problem.
[05:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: man, doesn't sound good
[05:39] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: It could be a hardware issue, due to me having a newer cpu and gpu, or somehow windows 8 might be messing with it, or possible both... or none
[05:39] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: maybe that laptop/chipset is just too new for gnu/linux yet. dunno
[05:40] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: mabye, but if thats the case. . . that sucks. Plus I was running just fine in virtualbox
[05:40] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: maybe try installing ubuntu 14.04 testing on it. hehe. i'm running it right now ;-)
[05:40] <noideas> lotuspsychje: there are no errors. I can access the drive within ubuntu server, but my nfs and samba come up blank, I just tried remounting and now seems to work. Earlier it did not :-/
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> noideas: strange
[05:41] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: What do you mean 14.04? The latest I saw on the site was 13.10
[05:41] <noideas> lotuspsychje: thanks for your time :)
[05:41] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: or was that a typo for 13.04
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> noideas: np mate
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: is that alpha you are on?
[05:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/current/
[05:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: it's not really all that much new than 13.10. but it does of course, have newer kernel
[05:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: yes.. trusty/testing... 14.04
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: nice one
[05:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cat /etc/issue --> Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch)
[05:44] <ner0x> Is it possible for mediatomb to follow symlinks? I'm getting permission errors when attempting to add content from a second drive. Probably something to do with my fstab. Logan_ : Possible help?
[05:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: :-)
[05:45] <live> WhatIsTheMatrix: I havehigh nopes for this next LTS
[05:45] <live> Hopes*
[05:45] <live> (although funny)
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: can you join #ubuntu+1 plz
[05:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> live: me too. i plan on having it installed for the lifetime of the release
[05:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: sure. i do join there at times
[05:45] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: I have always found the naming for architecture confuzing. Should I go with intel x86 or AMD64 (I have intel i7 64bit)
[05:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: AMD64
[05:47] <Logan_> ner0x: Looks like it's a known bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677964 - Maybe try asking in #mediatomb
[05:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lotuspsychje: ubuntu+1 is not there atm apparently. i had the same issue a couple of days ago too. the channel wasn't there
[05:47] <Logan_> WhatIsTheMatrix: It's definitely there. I'm in it right now. :P
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> WhatIsTheMatrix: me2
[05:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Logan_: well, i try to join it and i get --> ubuntu+1 :No such channel
[05:47] <Logan_> #
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> maybe i'm doing something wrong
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> DOH!
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ty
[05:48] <Logan_> :)
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[05:48] <ner0x> Logan_: Rather than have it do that I'd like to add the /media/fswitalski/backup/Videos folder itself.  I'm wondering if I have to change the fstab option to make it executable, etc.
[05:49] <Logan_> ner0x: Try playing around with permissions. I'm not sure how to solve your problem specifically.
[05:49] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: Thanks for trying to help, the iso download won't be done for like half an hour
[05:50] <Logan_> ner0x: Hey, check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1373939
[05:50] <linuxlite> hi
[05:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: roger that. good luck. hopefully it will help with your newer hardware
[05:51] <linuxlite> anyone here knows to imposition a file like podofo do?
[05:51] <linuxlite> podofo is for pdf only how about libre office
[05:51] <ner0x> Logan_: Have to restart. Viewed that once before. I'll screen into irssi for the rest of this chat.
[05:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hello linuxlite
[05:52] <ranger_> WhatIsTheMatrix: Hopefully. If not, I'll also try a wubi install. Side note, how stable are you finding 14.04 to be?
[05:53] <linuxlite> WhatIsTheMatrix how can i imposition a file to print like a booklet
[05:53] <Logan_> !ubuntu+1 | ranger_
[05:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ranger_: i using kde because it had a fairly new release in testing/trusty to version 4.12.0... and the ubuntu/unity desktop seems unstable. but i also have other window mangers i could use, like IceWM, Motif, WindowMaker, etc.
[05:55] <ranger_> Ok
[05:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> linuxlite: you'll need to ask the channel. i don't know
[05:57] <linuxlite> ok
[05:58] <GeonoTRON2000> is it a known bug in 13.10 that the cursor disappears and doesn't come back after a suspend?
[06:02] <Tex_Nick> GeonoTRON2000: suspend works fine on this box
[06:06] <GeonoTRON2000> Tex_Nick: suspend works on mine too, it just removes the cursor and I have to either log out or plug in an external mouse to get it back
[06:09] <Tex_Nick> GeonoTRON2000: ok, i'm running 13.10 & not having that issue ... only providing feedback there ... not able to provide a solution, sorrry
[06:10] <GeonoTRON2000> Tex_Nick: I know, I just want to make sure it's documented
[06:14] <YellowGT0> Hello
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> YellowGT0: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:16] <YellowGT0> In your opinion whats the best remote desktop for Ubuntu
[06:16] <YellowGT0> I've used xrdp and ....
[06:16] <imghost> YeahRight_, i prefer rdesktop
[06:16] <YellowGT0> Hmm the name of the second one is slipping my mind right now
[06:17] <imghost> YellowGT0, i prefer rdesktop
[06:17] <YellowGT0> FreeNX is the other
[06:17] <YellowGT0> Im assuming it works at login imghost
[06:18] <YellowGT0> ?
[06:18] <YellowGT0> Or prelogin I should say
[06:18] <YellowGT0> I had an issue with teamviewer because you needed to login on site 1st
[06:19] <imghost> YellowGT0, no, just ip adrress and users name
[06:19] <YellowGT0> Maybe ill check that one out next. xrdp has given me a ton of weird issues
[06:19] <notebook> does crunchbag share the same repo as that of ubuntu?
[06:19] <tozen> hi all!! folks does updatedb.mlocate daily updates is important? and what would happened if i'll desable it using <chmod -x /etc/cron.daily/mlocate> command? thx
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !crunchbang | notebook
[06:20] <imghost> !rdesktop | yellowGTO
[06:20] <imghost> !info rdesktop
[06:20] <notebook> thanks lotuspsychje
[06:21] <tozen> i mean does this action affects my system or not?
[06:22] <YellowGT0> oh imghost it seems rdesktop is a client. Im looking for the server. xrdp seems to be the server
[06:22] <theRoda> anyone able to offer insight on failing to successfully dual boot linux with windows 8? i have failed many installs of lubuntu & ubuntu12.04 trying to figure out this uefi business. not sure where to go
[06:23] <theRoda> when trying to install ubuntu12.04, i would get to a black grub screen, when lubuntu, i just couldn't get to a boot menu
[06:24] <imghost> YellowGT0, ok :)
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | theRoda
[06:27] <savingpvtbryan> hello
[06:27] <savingpvtbryan> is this a beginner's channel?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: this is an ubuntu issue channel, ask your question mate
[06:28] <imghost> theRoda, did you disable the secure boot?
[06:28] <theRoda> ty for the link lotuspsychje, i was using it my last few attempts. i feel possibly my prior failed installs are having an effect? i have run chkdsk /f as well
[06:28] <savingpvtbryan> i'm brand spanking new to ubuntu.  i'm trying to install winrar (http://rarsoft.com/download.htm) but I'm trying to figure out how to do this.  the version they have is command line only, which is fine
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> theRoda: ive been able to single boot ubuntu on an uefi machine recently, worked out of the box
[06:29] <theRoda> imghost> i did, also tried many iterations of CSM enabled/disabled px(oe)? legacy disabled/enabled
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !info rar | savingpvtbryan
[06:29] <kanliot> savingpvtbryan, you should use ubuntu software ccenter to install it
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: sufo apt-get install rar (from terminal)
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> sudo
[06:29] <imghost> theRoda, did you try with "nomodeset"?
[06:29] <savingpvtbryan> ahh
[06:29] <savingpvtbryan> thanks
 i have been able to create a liveusb, and test lubuntu/ ubuntu from there, but after successful instal i get sent to grub
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: after that you will be able to rightmouse/unrar here
 i did with ubuntu12.04, that seemed to be the farthest i got i think, but after restart was sent to the black grub screen of suck
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> theRoda: loose w8 once and for good, and install ubuntu single :p
[06:31] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: works perfectly!
[06:31] <imghost> theRoda, yes because you did not save the settings permanently
[06:31] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: thanks
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !yay | savingpvtbryan
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: if you need more packages, come back here ok
[06:31] <savingpvtbryan> next question: how do i make something the default player for a file extension?  for example, i want to use VLC to open all .avi files
 i totally will once i'm a little more comfortable with it. still learning mechanincs in vm atm
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ok bbl
[06:32] <imghost> theRoda, you have to make one change in /etc/default/grub
 so once i get it installed and get sent to the grub screen, i can still make it work?
[06:33] <theRoda> also, not sure what my boot order should look like once i eject liveusb
[06:33] <imghost> theRoda, yes exactly its just you are not able to start your Xsessions thats it and you do not need to worry about it
 ok what is the change to make? just type ' /etc/default/grub'?
[06:35] <imghost> theRoda, reboot and press shift key till you get in the grub menu Highlight the first entry and replace “quiet splash” with “nomodeset” .
[06:36] <duoi> Does anybody have ChromiumOS installed on their Ubuntu machine?
 i've done that, hit f6 and marked it as well, and thats when i get taken to the black screen of suck
[06:36] <imghost> theRoda, read my last post
[06:37] <Guest70407> whats the best unity configurator?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: rightmouse on the .avi/properties and open with vlc: set as default
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: also look in system setting/ details (gear icon) for defaults
[06:37] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: ahh!  Thanks!  worked like a charm
[06:38] <savingpvtbryan> similar to windows but not quite the same
[06:38] <imghost> theRoda, hold down the shift key when booting starts, You will then get a console mode menu. The top option should be selected. Press 'e' to edit that line.
[06:38] <savingpvtbryan> i'm dual booting ubuntu with windows 8.  it was a pain to get this installed on a UEFI system
[06:39] <noideas> lotuspsychje: just in case you were curious I just found out my drive is now failing. Haha (drive not mounting)
[06:39] <dragonslay> Hi, I need help with replacing named dns server with dnsmasq. How do I do it? Is it better to remove bind altogether?
[06:39] <savingpvtbryan> is ubuntu supposed to be this choppy?  i feel like it's not that smooth considering i have an i7 ivy bridge processor and a geforce gtx 555
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: loose w8 once and for good, you will be more pleased with a single ubuntu
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | noideas
[06:40] <noideas> lotuspsychje: Nice. Thanks!
[06:40] <savingpvtbryan> lotuspsychje: i would except i can't even do the most simplest of tasks on ubuntu.
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: what do you mean?
[06:41] <savingpvtbryan> i mean i have to constantly ask for help so i can't afford to get rid of windows yet
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: its a great learning experience
[06:42] <imghost> !manual | savingpvtbryan
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> i tried installing geforce drivers and it prevented me from logging on to ubuntu.
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> thanks!
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> is there a  special trick to installing geforce drivers?  i used, "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa"
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> savingpvtbryan: check your additional drivers section first
[06:43] <savingpvtbryan> then sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[06:44] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, there are no tricks just be careful when you do switch between open source and proprietary drivers
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: you also need bumblebee-nvidia
[06:45] <savingpvtbryan> additional drivers: "no additional drivers are available"
[06:46] <savingpvtbryan> okay, i'll try out bumblebee-nvidia
[06:46] <savingpvtbryan> hopefully it won't give me the black screen like the previous driver did
[06:46] <Gamer_90> hello
[06:48] <Gamer_90> i'm having an issue with my Mono Price USB to HDMI Adapter , i'm running xubuntu 13.10
[06:48] <duoi> Anybody have XBMC installed on Ubuntu?
[06:49] <savingpvtbryan> i'm trying to install bumblebee-nvidia and step 2 of the instructions says, "Enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories (for bumblebee and nvidia packages respectively). "  How do I do this?
[06:50] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, try to understand why are you getting the black screen try to find out what is Xsession, Xorg, Xauth, display manager etc use web search first, its not good to just copy and paste form the internet try to learn basics first :)
[06:51] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, you can enable universe and multverse under software sources,
[06:51] <savingpvtbryan> imghost: thanks.  i want to figure it out but i don't know what i don't know so when i google the symptoms all i find are solutions to the problem but i don't understand how it fixes it
[06:52] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | duoi
[06:53] <zrh0> whats the best unity configurator?
[06:53] <duoi> hitsujiTMO, do you have XBMC installed?
[06:53] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, ok :), first make the backups so that you can revert the changes to default enjoy :)
[06:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info unity-tweak-tool
[06:54] <savingpvtbryan> hehe
[06:54] <imghost> :D
[06:54] <FiremanEd> !info myunity
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> duoi: not on ubuntu. please state your actual issue. noone's going to help you when you don't say what your actual problem is
[06:56] <duoi> hitsujiTMO, if you don't have it installed, then kindly don't bother me. Thanks.
[06:57] <hitsujiTMO> !attitude | duoi
[06:57] <imghost> duoi, for off topic discussions we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:58] <savingpvtbryan> how do i move icons on my task bar to my desktop?
[06:59] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[07:00] <duoi> hitsujiTMO, if you are looking for an argument, consider joining #linux and saying something along the lines of "I don't like XFCE because it's not as lightweight as Unity." You certainly find what you're looking for there.
[07:00] <imghost> !alacarte | savingpvtbryan
[07:00] <imghost> !info alacarte
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> duoi i'm not looking for an arguement. i simply asked you to state what your issue is. good luck getting help with that attitude of yours
[07:02] <duoi> !attitude | hitsujiTMO
[07:02] <fragtastic> duoi: i've got XBMC installed
[07:03] <savingpvtbryan> imghost: thanks!
[07:03] <imghost> savingpvtbryan, :)
[07:03] <duoi> fragtastic, awesome! Have you happened to install the Netflix/Hulu plugins? I'm curious as to whether or not it is as stable as something like Pipelight.
[07:05] <fragtastic> both actually. i haven't had a problem with them.
[07:07] <duoi> fragtastic, great. Thanks for confirming that :)
[07:18] <savingpvtbryan> thanks for all the help, gotta go now
[07:18] <savingpvtbryan> i'll be back again for more help!
[07:18] <savingpvtbryan> :)
[07:21] <savingpvtbryan> i'm back - sooner than expected
[07:22] <savingpvtbryan> i installed the most current nvidia drivers and now i get a black screen (but I see my mouse cursor)
[07:22] <derpdiderp> hey guys, i have ubuntu minimal and i just installed lightdm. i want to get pantheon to work on it, however, when teh system boots, lightdm doesn't even come up. the regular ubuntu boot screen comes up, then the background turns black while the ubuntu logo is still loading. what can i do?
[07:22] <savingpvtbryan> if i hit ctrl-alt-F1, i can go into the console
[07:22] <savingpvtbryan> any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:24] <bajrang> hi
[07:25] <savingpvtbryan> hi
[07:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> howdy
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you install pastebinit and get us your xorg log. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:27] <savingpvtbryan> hmmm it says unable to locate package pasteinit
[07:27] <savingpvtbryan> i guess i don't have the proper repository?
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: pastebinit
[07:28] <savingpvtbryan> ahh
[07:28] <savingpvtbryan> thanks, stupid me
[07:28] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655609/
[07:33] <arunkumar413> hi, how to create sqlite database using libreoffice
[07:34] <amoris> Was wondering how I could password protect files on an external drive?
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: hmm, odd. its loaded both nvidia + intel. what exact packages did you install?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | amoris
[07:35] <amoris> Is that for an external directory?
[07:35] <SaberX01> arunkumar413, https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_SQLite_With_OpenOffice.org
[07:36] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i installed the nvidia one by typing, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" .  I have an alienware x51 which has an intel 4000 grahphics card built in but also comes with a gtx 555
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> amoris: you can encrypt external drives too yes
[07:36] <amoris> thank you anyway! :)
[07:36] <amoris> Oh okay great!
[07:36] <amoris> :)
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: install bumblebee-nvidia and primus
[07:37] <savingpvtbryan> okay
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> amoris: you might wanna check software centre for encrypting apps
[07:37] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: should i uninstall this one first?
[07:37] <amoris> Indeed, I will do that thanks a bunch.
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: noo
[07:39] <savingpvtbryan> okay
[07:41] <arunkumar413> SaberX01: that's for open office
[07:42] <SaberX01> arunkumar413, Yes, it is, but a little investing will show that it's nearly the same for Libre ..
[07:44] <tacorwin> how do I apply for a Ubuntu membership?
[07:44] <XPPRESP3> how i can move between the gnome/kde interface - tks
[07:45] <hitsujiTMO> tacorwin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[07:45] <SaberX01> tacorwin, there is several ways, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership    .. I was too slow ...  You can also talk wiht the guys in #ubuntu-irc about it
[07:46] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i installed it and rebooted.  now i'm greeted with a different type of black screen and i have an "X" mouse cursor instead of the pointer.  i'll do another pastebinit
[07:46] <tacorwin> hitsujiTMO: SaberX01: thank you both for that. haha.
[07:47] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: any display on ctrl + alt + f8?
[07:47] <NictraSavios>  Hello, I was wondering, I can't seem to get a Win7 installation CD to boot, is there a way to make grub boot the CD drive? (On a laptop with secure boot and UEFI. Neither can be disabled... or else ubuntu won't boot)
[07:48] <NictraSavios> Also, whats the best format for a shared Windows/Ubuntu partition? Is it still ntfs or have ext4 drivers finally been developed for faildows?
[07:48] <ChickenBrain> NictraSavios: that is normally a BIOS setup of the computer
[07:48] <[[thufir]]> I can't get vuze to connect.  It worked fine until I re-installed the OS, so the only variable in the equation to change is the OS and software.  Using Oracle Java on 12.04 and 13.10, so it's not Java.  The network is the same.  Vuze passes the firewall test...so??  What now?   "0 users"
[07:49] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: when I hit ctrl+alt+F8, I get a blinking cursor
[07:49] <NictraSavios> ChickenBrain, Unfortunatly I've been playing in BIOS all night and there seems to be no way to make it boot a windows 7 installation CD or USB. So, I was wondering if grub could chain-load it?
[07:49] <ChickenBrain> NictraSavios: that would be the first BIOS ever in ages which would not be able to change the boot sequencel...
[07:49] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: hmm, please pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log          sounds like its not loading lightdm
[07:50] <NictraSavios> ChickenBrain, Nothing to do with boot sequence. It dosen't recognise the media as bootable. I tried with three different ISOs too.
[07:50] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655694/
[07:50] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: have you verified the windows cd. ps this is more ##windows support not ubuntu support
[07:51] <ChickenBrain> indeed, if windows CD is not bootable I doubt that chainloading it with grub makes any difference
[07:51] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, I have. md5summed. And, I'm asking how to make grub2 chainload a CD. Which is more of a grub2 question, but I figured I'd ask here since I don't know of any grub2 support chat and I doubt it would be very active.
[07:53] <NictraSavios> ChickenBrain, Three different ISOs not being bootable? I doubt it. Especially when one of them I've used in the past many many times.
[07:53] <ChickenBrain> good luck :)
[07:53] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: try creating a bootable windows usb instead
[07:54] <NictraSavios> Anyway, about the actual ubuntu question, is ntfs still the standard for shared partiitions?
[07:54] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, I did, trying with the third iso currently.
[07:54] <ChickenBrain> I have problems with DHCP in a fresh ubuntu 13.10 install on wlan
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:54] <ChickenBrain> works fine on eth0, doesn't work on wlan0... setting the config static makes network work perfect...
[07:54] <ChickenBrain> any hint where I can find more specific information? I searched the forums for 3 days or so
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !dhcp | ChickenBrain
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: lspci | pastebinit
[07:56] <ChickenBrain> lotuspsychje: thanks, but that one I knew... not very specific on DHCP failing on wlan but working on eth
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: also: dmesg | pastebinit
[07:57] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: some very odd output from your Xorg log. its like its not an optimus system
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> ChickenBrain: bug maybe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1112751
[07:58] <circle_> network manager connects to my network fine, but I have no internet access
[07:58] <savingpvtbryan> i didn't think it was an optimus system since it's a desktop
[07:58] <circle_> can't even access my default gateway
[07:58] <circle_> this is via wifi, it works fine/well with wired
[07:58] <motaka2> hello how can make ubuntu's password verification obligational
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> circle_: did you install wifi drivers?
[07:58] <junka> Do i have to open a launchpad account to report bugs?
[07:58] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655720/
[07:58] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655722/
[07:58] <circle_> lotuspsychje, yes they're all there
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ahh wait. thought you had 555m
[07:59] <circle_> lotuspsychje, 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 84b6
[07:59] <circle_> 	Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce
[07:59] <gigio> ciao
[07:59] <gigio> list!
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> !it | gigio
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> circle_: realtek has latest drivers for ubuntu on their web also, maybe try those?
[07:59] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ok. uninstall bumblebee-nvidia primus. my bad.
[07:59] <circle_> lotuspsychje, this has nothing to do with realtek
[08:00] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: how is the monitor connected? thru motherboard or direct to gpu?
[08:00] <savingpvtbryan> direct to GPU so there's no connection with the intel 4000
[08:00] <ChickenBrain> circle_: same problem I have... workarround: set IP information static
[08:01] <NictraSavios> I'm guessing nobody knows the answer to my query about shared partition format?
[08:01] <circle_> ChickenBrain, it works fine in windows, yopu still reckon that's a good thing to do?
[08:01] <ChickenBrain> circle_: it is a workarround, not necessarily good, but it works
[08:02] <circle_> ChickenBrain, okay I'll do that, how do I do that? and why does that work?
[08:02] <ChickenBrain> I consider it to be a bug
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | NictraSavios
[08:02] <ChickenBrain> network settings, but you need to know your parameters
[08:02] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: uninstalled
[08:02] <ChickenBrain> IP adress, GW, DNS Server
[08:03] <ChickenBrain> lotuspsychje: yes, a bug was also my conclusion... and the only working answer I found was set IP information static
[08:03] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you reboot.
[08:03] <savingpvtbryan> okay
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: 1920 x 1200 res monitor?
[08:04] <hipitihop> my TV native resolution is 1366x768 when I connect via hdmi direct all works well (apart from slight left/right border) but when I connect my machine as input to my Onkyo AV tuner, TV either claims no signal or seems to be running @ 1920x1200 Is there a way to force/limit the resolution
[08:04] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, I'm deciding on the format. I don't have the partion yet.
[08:04] <savingpvtbryan> yeah
[08:04] <savingpvtbryan> it's that resolution
[08:05] <ChickenBrain> lotuspsychje: and than something I don't fully get: "Seems that this bug might belong to bcmwl-kernel-source.", so I stayed out of trying that random
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> NictraSavios: can you tell us what you are trying to do exactly?
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | ChickenBrain
[08:05] <savingpvtbryan> i rebooted, same problem.  black screen, can see mouse cursor.  the mouse cursor only move around a quarter of the screen so there's definitely a resolution problem
[08:05] <hipitihop> if I run xrandr -q claims Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1360 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
[08:06] <savingpvtbryan> i meant to say same problem as before installing bumblebee
[08:06] <ChickenBrain> thanks lotuspsychje.. that does not apply to my computer, but I have the same problem as described in the bug...
[08:06] <ChickenBrain> which translates to me that the bug is somewhere else
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:08] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: it says nvidia-xconfig command not found
[08:08] <[[thufir]]> I can't get vuze to connect.  It worked fine until I re-installed the OS, so the only variable in the equation to change is the OS and software.  Using Oracle Java on 12.04 and 13.10, so it's not Java.  The network is the same.  Vuze passes the firewall test...so??  What now?   "0 users"
[08:08] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: try installing nvidia-setting-304
[08:10] <circle_> ChickenBrain, which wireless chip do you use?
[08:11] <hitsujiTMO> !find nvidia-xconfig
[08:11] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: okay, i installed it.
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, should be with the driver itself
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you try again: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[08:12] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: still doesn't work
[08:12] <ikarosv1> hello world
[08:13] <eliudnir> hi, I have a machine I want to boot up as smoothly as possibly whenever it has power. I noticed that it does some disk check in the start sometimes and that the default value does not have a countdown.. How does one go about disabling this disk check?
[08:13] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sudo find / -name nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: /usr/lib/nvidia-304/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sudo /usr/lib/nvidia-304/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[08:14] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, Sorry, I was absent minded. What I'm doing it partioning my hard drive before installing windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04.3. I create a shared partition where *everything* is stored that isn't an OS or a program. So all of my personal data, downloads and desktops.
[08:14] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, I'm wondering if this shared partition *must* be ntfs or if I can use ext4.
[08:15] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: "Unable to locate/open  X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: win 7 cannot read ext4. you should use ntfs
[08:15] <savingpvtbryan> should i pastebinit?
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: reboot
[08:15] <savingpvtbryan> ok
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> NictraSavios: you cant install ubuntu on ntfs right
[08:15] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, Not natively, I was wondering if there was any progress on drivers for it.
[08:16] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, Who said I was?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> NictraSavios: ok
[08:16] <NictraSavios> lotuspsychje, The OS is on an ext4, (and windows is on an ntfs), all my data is on a seperate third partition. (Okay... 6th,... after efi, ubuntu boot and windows boot)
[08:16] <hitsujiTMO> NictraSavios: i haven't seen anything decent that won't cost you your firstborn
[08:17] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, Dang.
[08:17] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i rebooted and saw what looked like a broken mouse cursor laid out horizontally in slices.  hit ctrl-alt-f8 and i get the blinking cursor
[08:18] <hipitihop> NictraSavios, not sure what you mean, no way to restrict ?
[08:19] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, Huh?  Removed it, but now my login screen is weird + has a white background. How to revert?
[08:19] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf                   ...               sudo cat /var/log/lightdm.* | pastebinit
[08:19] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, Yes,  as in "Well, that sucks."
[08:21] <NictraSavios> hitsujiTMO, hitsujiTMO Whoops. I got your usernames mixed up.
[08:21] <NictraSavios> hipitihop, hitsujiTMO *
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: woops. that last bit should be  sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/* | pastebinit
[08:22] <hipitihop> NictraSavios, np, I thought you were responding to my native resolution issue
[08:22] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655784
[08:26] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: do you have your user on autologin?
[08:27] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: no, i don't
[08:27] <tachyons> hello
[08:27] <tachyons> any packaging experts here?
[08:27] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: thanks for all the help so far.  i'm figuring out what these commands do as you give them to me
[08:27] <NictraSavios> What solutions are available for encrypting an ext4 data partition? I know luks can do system partitions.
[08:27] <tachyons> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161000108/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.lttoolbox_3.2-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:28] <tachyons> can anyone help me to find cause of this error?
[08:28] <NictraSavios> tachyons, I used to manage a debian repo for Cydia, so I can maybe help.
[08:29] <tachyons> NictraSavios, great :-)
[08:29] <NictraSavios> tachyons, I would not consider myself an expert, but I'll definitely give it a shot.
[08:29] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ls -l /var/log/lightdm/ | pastebinit
[08:29] <tachyons> NictraSavios, I am trying to package lttoolbox
[08:30] <tachyons> NictraSavios,  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161000108/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.lttoolbox_3.2-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:30] <savingpvtbryan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655811
[08:31] <savingpvtbryan> i love this pastebinit.
[08:31] <tachyons> NictraSavios, https://launchpad.net/~aboobackervyd/+archive/test/+packages
[08:32] <NictraSavios> tachyons, It looks like you're missing a few library files that your package depends on.
[08:34] <tachyons> NictraSavios, But it works perfectly from my home pc
[08:34] <tachyons> using debuild
[08:35] <tachyons> NictraSavios,  these library files are to be generated during the build
[08:35] <NictraSavios> tachyons, What I think is happening is that your package depends on library files which aren't installed in the current system. Maybe you forgot to add a dep that was installed on your home system.
[08:35] <NictraSavios> tachyons, But I could be completely wrong.
[08:36] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: in grub if i choose advanced start up and pick ubuntu with linux 3.11.0-14-generic (recovery mode), I'm able to get unity to load up.  i can log on with no issues when i do that.
[08:36] <pieroooooooooooo> salve
[08:36] <tachyons> afaik I added all dependencies
[08:36] <pieroooooooooooo> !list
[08:36] <tachyons> I think that is why there is no build errors
[08:38] <NictraSavios> tachyons, Hmm, Well, I can't see anything else. Try asking in the debian irc (I think its on a different network). Most of my work was on the Jailbroken iPhone appstore known as Cydia, so I never had to deal with many complex dependencies.
[08:40] <AlecTaylor> Installed some KDE crap by mistake. Removed it, but now my login screen is weird + has a white background. How to revert?
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log             would be interesting to see what driver it has loaded
[08:40] <thom__> AlecTaylor: re-install
[08:40] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, rm ~.kde
[08:41] <AlecTaylor> ls .kde
[08:41] <AlecTaylor> cache-ubuntu-x64  share  socket-ubuntu-x64  tmp-ubuntu-x64
[08:41] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, rm ~/.kde
[08:41] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, rm ~/.kde4
[08:41] <AlecTaylor> Really?
[08:42] <tachyons> AlecTaylor, it will reset your kde configaration
[08:42] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655845
[08:42] <awktion> thom__: one should almost never need to reinstall
[08:43] <awktion> if one can boot, one should be able to recover
[08:43] <awktion> and its far better to learn to fix what's broken
[08:43] <DaleK5whr> <<< agrees with awktion
[08:44] <awktion> so removing ~/.kde* removes the preset configs
[08:44] <awktion> this would be helpful if all the right packages are in, but a config went wrong that you set in your user
[08:44] <awktion> if packages are missing, bad versions, or w/e you might still see issues
[08:45] <tachyons> then dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:45] <awktion> in general, there's no difference between mv a file/folder and rm'ing it to the system
[08:45] <awktion> so i would recommend to mv .kde -> .kde.bak for instance
[08:45] <awktion> its just not where it's looking ;)
[08:45] <tachyons> awktion, +1
[08:45] <awktion> then make sure the right desktop-package is in
[08:45] <awktion> kde should be addressed in #kubuntu
[08:45] <awktion> but!
[08:46] <awktion> kubuntu-desktop is the metapackage you want
[08:46] <awktion> THEN do some reconfiguring
[08:46] <ouyes> Is it possible to disable the intel intergeted VGA card hd4000?
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: ahh its using vesa. I can't see any actuall issue except the fact that the nvidia driver just doesn't want to work. this is a bit of a strange issue. it does appear that its working, just not rendering to your xsession. Maybe try a different driver: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-304 && sudo apt-get install nvidia-319
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: desktop or laptop?
[08:46] <awktion> anyway, that's a general process i would go through.
[08:47] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: thanks so much for your help
[08:47] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: you're the best
[08:47] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: i really do appreciate taking the time to help out
[08:47] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: lol, no problems at all
[08:50] <awktion> savingpvtbryan: do us all a favor
[08:50] <awktion> if you see someone with an issue you can solve, solve it
[08:50] <awktion> ;)
[08:50] <awktion> the real power of ubuntu is not just the software
[08:50] <savingpvtbryan> hehehe will do :)
[08:50] <awktion> :)
[08:51] <savingpvtbryan> it's going to be a long time before i get to that point but i'll always keep it in mind :)
[08:51] <ouyes> hipitihop, laptop, asus n56vz
[08:52] <ouyes> hipitihop, intel i5-3210m and GT 650M
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: no, you must use the intel gpu
[08:53] <motaka2> can any one tell me how I can put a password for my ubuntu, it already has one but during login to desktop it doesnt ask me
[08:54] <ouyes> hipitihop, but I have a vga card, when you play movies, use the nvidia card will get better picture.
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> motaka2: did you set the account to autologin?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> how can i measure whats happening the time from login window to desktop?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> im tweaking ssd
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: the intel hd 4000 is more than capable of fhd video playback.
[08:56] <phenex> hitsujiTMO: was it you who tried to help me with my apu problem????
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> phenex: i think so
[08:57] <[[thufir]]> how do I take a screenshot that includes the mouse?
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: lightdm logs maybe?
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: lemme check tnx
[08:57] <phenex> yeah installed bumblebee and got my system messed up install ubuntu 13.10 fersh and blacklisted i915 instead of video now it seems to work thanks a lot
[08:58] <hitsujiTMO> phenex: sweet
[08:59] <ouyes> hitsujiTMO, but if I want to play games?
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: nvidia-prime
[08:59] <phenex> hitsujiTMO: I'll try out a little more. I often thinked that problem is solved but now it looks pretty good
[09:00] <savingpvtbryan> hitsujiTMO: nvidia-310 worked for me!  319 & 331 both wouldn't work but 310 did.  once again, thanks for all your help
[09:00] <hitsujiTMO> ouyes: your nvidia card is purely a secondary card and is not directly connected to any screens. you use it on call.
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> savingpvtbryan: sweet. kinda odd but glad one of the drivers is working
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: not sure howto debug this, wanna take a look at it?
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: pastebin away
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655927/ im getting bit slow desktop loading
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: well slow under 1min lol
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: difficult one alright. can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: sure holdon
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6655962/
[09:13] <vbgunz> can anyone help me figure out why pulseaudio does not start with the system anymore?
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> !sound | vbgunz
[09:14] <vbgunz> I have to manually put pulseaudio -D in a startup file
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: your xserver is taking quite a bit of time to load up. try switching drivers temporarily.
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok the other driver got me disformed image, but lemme test just for speed
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> lemme switch and reboot
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: might aswell pastebinit Xorg.0.log with other driver
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> ok
 you sir are a gentleman and a scholar. your version of nomodeset is win. i have one last question though if i may.. when in the ubuntu boot list, if i try selecting w8 loader or w8 recovery loader, i get the error 'unknown command "drive map" invalid EFI filepath' and i am only able to get back to w8 from changing boot order. any thoughts?
[09:18] <nashant> Anyone else have an issue with chrome/chromium where the cursor doesn't work properly? I.e. doesn't change to pointer when over a link, doesn't change to typing cursor when over a text box, etc? And do you kno how to fix it?
[09:23] <theRoda> imghost: i am now aware that error is due to bad boot location from previous install attempts. attempting to edit now with sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.old /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: a bit faster now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656006/
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: no screen disformings yet
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> loyi
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: thats stilll really slow tho. can you try with radeondriver?
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: like my xorg loads in 0.5s
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: packagename?
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: disable fglrx and radeondriver should load
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[09:27] <Pavelcz> In Unity or Ubuntu at all, is there a way to achieve that "pressing LCtrl +LAlt = pressing RAlt" ?
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: so disable both fglrx experimental and post-release right?
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: yup
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> ok cross your fingerz reboot
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: may need to disable you xorg.conf too
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: how do i do that?
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> ok reboot holdon
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: can you again pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> yes
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656055/
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: huge improvement. until it comes to moniyor detection
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> monitor*
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: what should i do from here, boot process was very fast
[09:40] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: was that a noticable improvement for you?
[09:40] <osbin> good morning lads :)
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: can you pastebin the lightdm log again?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: yes, the login to desktop was faster
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: sure
[09:41] <osbin> how to uinsttall a standart interface from ubuntu?
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: seems the issue is the proprietary driver then. So you've a choice of sticking with radeon or going back to fglrx
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6656080/
[09:42] <aeon-ltd> osbin: talking about unity?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: seems your trick is fastest way for me..ill stick to this
 probably yes :)
[09:43] <aeon-ltd> osbin: do you have another desktop environment installed?
[09:44] <theRoda> imghost: scratch the Q n invalid EFI file path. boot-repair ftw
[09:44] <imghost> theRoda, sorry for late reply office work mate will pm you
 yes using kde and gnome
 no problems at all, tyvm for all the help
[09:44] <aeon-ltd> osbin: ok, are you currently in that session now?
 KDE at mom :)
[09:45] <hussain> hi is any one here to help me how to install java jdk on linux??
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: lightdm still seems quite slow. maybe checkout xmir. i'm using that and my lightdm completes in 2s compared to your 8s
[09:46] <aeon-ltd> osbin: i'm  googling now for a meta-package, which would contain names of all unity related packages to rmove
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: can mir load on 12.04?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> !mir > lotuspsychje
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: ahh 12.04... not sure on that
 okay mate im not english :) so for me hard to find some stuff like that :)
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ive got a few tweaks on lightdm aswell, disabled guest and not showing usernames
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: think that can slowup?
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> osbin: here is a list and some important information http://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> osbin: the command should be 'sudo apt-get autoremove --purge unity unity-common unity-services unity-lens-* unity-scope-* unity-webapps-* gnome-control-center-unity hud libunity-core-6* libunity-misc4 libunity-webapps* appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt* overlay-scrollbar* activity-log-manager-control-center firefox-globalmenu thunderbird-globalmenu libufe-xidgetter0 xul-ext-unity xul-ext-webaccounts webaccounts-extension-common xul-ext-websites-integrat
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i doubt it.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok, ill stick to this layout tnx alot for the help mate!
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: final reboot :p
[09:49] <aeon-ltd> osbin: though if you've got a large hdd and no caps on your internet(for updates), keeping it might be handy
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: seems more the greeter is where your issue is to be exact
 thanx mate
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> brb
[09:50] <hussain> how to install open jadk7 in linux.
[09:50] <aeon-ltd> !openjdk
[09:50] <hussain> yes
[09:50] <aeon-ltd> hussain: http://openjdk.java.net/install/
[09:50] <hussain> through terminal??
[09:51] <hussain> aeon: through terminal?
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> hussain: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk            for jdk,     or: sudo openjdk-7-jre for jre
[09:51] <such_coins> I'm on Xubuntu on my dell XPS and the trackpad just doesn't work at all. Can anyone help me?
[09:51] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: did it ever work?
[09:51] <aeon-ltd> hussain: yeah
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: so how can i speed up the greeter?
[09:52] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, it did when I was using windows 8 (pre-installed), but not since I got xubuntu
[09:52] <hussain> hisujiTMO: thanks 4 helping me.
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: that i'm not sure of. i haven't played around with that before
[09:53] <[[thufir]]> I can't get vuze to connect.  It worked fine until I re-installed the OS, so the only variable in the equation to change is the OS and software.  Using Oracle Java on 12.04 and 13.10, so it's not Java.  The network is the same.  Vuze passes the firewall test...so??  What now?   "0 users"  Also, I don't have any plugins available.
[09:53] <hussain> ok i am trying
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok tnx lemme search that, ill let you know
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: my first instinct is to check fn + f9     or whatever acpi key you have that disables/enables touchpad
[09:55] <such_coins> fn + f9 did nothing, I'm not sure how to toggle touchpad
[09:55] <nashant> Anyone else have an issue with chrome/chromium where the cursor doesn't work properly? I.e. doesn't change to pointer when over a link, doesn't change to typing cursor when over a text box, etc? And do you kno how to fix it?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/945450 related you think?
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: maybe this https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/1005642
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[09:59] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: altho both seem to be more responsiveness than load times
[10:00] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: try another greeter theme maybe.
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ok
[10:02] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: can you pasbin output of: lsusb && lsusb -t
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: im also using ubuntu-tweak to change the login wallpaper and such
[10:04] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, PM sent
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i still don't think that should massively effect the loading times tho. unless ubuntu-tweak does some crazy ass config
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: lsusb -t        too please
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ill test it all out tnx for brainstorming
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: np
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: seems driver is loaded ok. whats the exact model of laptop?
[10:09] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, dell xps 12
[10:10] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: can you give me the exact model tho.
[10:11] <osbin> how to check kernel version installed?
[10:11] <brontosaurusrex> osbin, uname -a ?
 about kernel nothing :)
[10:13] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, A05
 3.8.0-34-generic thanx mate
[10:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: thats your bios version. the model should be underneath the laptop. failing that the service tag would do
[10:15] <cristian_c> I've purchased a serial to usb adapter
[10:15] <brontosaurusrex> osbin, no generic problem
[10:15] <cristian_c> I've tried it with a serial mouse, for example
[10:15] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, underneath just says intel xps windows 8
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: is there a service tag at all?
[10:16] <cristian_c> I've tried the mdetect command and the terminal has returned intellimouse
[10:16] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, where would that be
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: should be there somewhere. they're on every dell product
[10:16] <cristian_c> then, I've set intellimouse protocol with the inputattach command
[10:16] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, all I can seee is Dell XPS 12
[10:17] <cristian_c> I've found a new input device in xinput list but I don't know how to enable it
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: hmm. ok. can you by anychance take a pic of your keyboard then?
[10:17] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, sorry I'm not in a position to do that
[10:18] <such_coins> there are two stickers on the keyboard side of my laptop
[10:18] <such_coins> one says "intel inside core i7"
[10:18] <such_coins> the other says "dell xps 12 ultrabook"
[10:18] <cristian_c> I've noticed a strange thing, also: if I disconnect the mouse, I see the new device in xinput list yet :O
[10:19] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:19] <cristian_c> :)
[10:19] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: i just need a way of looking up your exact model so i can see what function keys are available and where they exactly are. thery unfortunately change from model to model
[10:20] <win5hit> hi there! I just stumbled accross mtop, a mysql monitoring tool. I thought it would be nice, but it's not in the repo... can someone recommend a similar tool? Any experience on this one so far?
[10:20] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, sorry I'm not sure what to do.. I bought this laptop about 1 year ago
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: ok. on the bottom is there a bay you can open in the center of the base?
[10:22] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, looks like it
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: the service tag may be inside there
[10:23] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, it doesn't seem to open up easily and i don't want to force it...
[10:24] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: it should open from the battery side
[10:25] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: should not require forcing either
[10:25] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, it's pretty late here. I really appreciate the help but I should get to bed now
[10:25] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, i'll message you when i see you next
[10:25] <such_coins> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> such_coins: np
[10:26] <Zah_> Hello folks
[10:27] <hussain> hi..
[10:27] <hussain> hello.
[10:27] <Zah_> Anyone know how to use switch to a different input method in a terminal (tty or pty ) beside Gnome Terminal?
[10:28] <Zah_> Or at the very least, where I could find more information on how to accomplish this?
[10:28] <win5hit> anyone nows a good replacement for mtop?
[10:30] <win5hit> sed -i 's/nows/knows/g' $lastmsg
[10:30] <dn4> man I don't get why
[10:30]  * dn4 just quotes
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> win5hit: mytop
[10:31] <win5hit> hitsujiTMO: thank you sir!
[10:44] <FireStorms> Hello, I'm trying to launch Netbeans by click the icon but it's not launching... I've click it like 5 times. What could be the problem?
[10:45] <FireStorms> Also I've checked gnome-system-monitor and the process is not started
[10:46] <bekks> FireStorms: Rightclick on the icon and see which application should be started, then start that application from a terminal to see whats happening
[10:49] <FireStorms> bekks, The icon command is "/bin/sh "/home/michael/netbeans-7.2.1/bin/netbeans"" I run this in the terminal and nothing gets returned