[12:04] <l-tare> hello
[12:05] <l-tare> Can anyone guide to the best way to get started developping with ubuntu


[01:23] <infinity> xnox: That was me.
[04:06] <jbicha> xnox: it looks like guilt doesn't like git 1.8
[13:40] <xnox> jbicha: yeah, I know. Trying to sort it out. The guilt's test-suite fails with 1.8
[13:40] <xnox> infinity: it's alright, it's ok =)
[15:39] <xnox> uploaded fixed guilt
[15:51] <xnox> Please demote gnupginterface to universe.
[15:51] <xnox> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt
[17:09] <ScottK> xnox: Done.
[21:11] <xnox> ScottK: thanks.
[21:34] <xnox> universe -> main: bug 1077484
[21:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1077484 in shadow (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libsemanage (shadow's rdep to continue SELinux support in shadow)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077484
[23:48] <cjwatson> xnox: FWIW override changes and deletions are currently rather painful due to an LP incident that massively bloated the BinaryPackagePublishingHistory table: they tend to time out a lot.  Probably best waiting a couple of days for most of those
[23:48] <cjwatson> (At least we think that's why)
[23:49] <xnox> cjwatson: ok. I opened the bug because component-mismatches didn't pick it up, for future reference.
[23:49] <xnox> cjwatson: it's not urgent by any means.
[23:50] <cjwatson> Eh, that means it's inappropriate to mve
[23:50] <cjwatson> *move
[23:50] <cjwatson> Ah, but the new build-dep is only in -proposed, right?
[23:50] <xnox> cjwatson: hm... please explain to me why then? or better how would I find out, why.
[23:50] <xnox> cjwatson: yes, -proposed only.
[23:51] <cjwatson> OK, so we've not done much of this yet in the new world order
[23:51] <cjwatson> The reason we don't move stuff until c-m tells us to is that otherwise c-m will tell us to move it right back
[23:51] <cjwatson> But that isn't so obviously applicable here because once it moves out of -proposed that'll satisfy c-m
[23:52] <cjwatson> However, we need to adapt c-m to cope better with the new world order somehow; haven't thought through the exact details of how yet
[23:52] <cjwatson> In any case, the MIR will need to be approved before we move it
[23:53] <cjwatson> I'm not on that team so SEP :-)
[23:53] <xnox> well.... laney did a magic download script to con-cat both -propose & -release pockets for the transition tracker. As it only knows how to look at a single packages per arch.
[23:53] <xnox> what does SEP stand for?
[23:54] <xnox> ack. I figured MIR should be in-place. Was not sure how to report a possible issue with c-m, hence raised it here.
[23:55] <cjwatson> Somebody Else's Problem (Douglas Adams)
[23:55] <xnox> ack. =))))))))))
[23:55] <xnox> ... field
[23:56] <cjwatson> Yeah, uh, given that I've spent considerable time debugging britney's release/proposed merging code and it took me about four or five goes to get it right, I'm going to think hard about it if it's all the same to you :-)
[23:56] <cjwatson> component-mismatches is in ubuntu-archive-tools, so you can file bugs on that LP project
[23:56]  * Laney feels hilighted
[23:57] <Laney> Doesn't seem wrong to wait for everything to be in -release before component mismatching?
[23:57] <cjwatson> Problem is some things can't migrate until components are right
[23:58] <cjwatson> E.g. this case where shadow won't build until either it stops using libsemanage or libsemanage is in main
[23:58] <cjwatson> It's all a bit complicated now :-)
[23:59] <Laney> Oh, ho hum.