[05:26] <Meatball_py> Hi all, what command should I run the know the current branch of a local repository?
[05:33] <lifeless> Meatball_py: bzr info
[15:12] <jdoles> I have a big directory with .bzr in it. How do I get the directory filled with the latest version?
[15:12] <jdoles> No files are visible currently.
[15:29] <jelmer> jdoles: "bzr co" (no arguments)
[22:52] <hypnocat> how can i change the last description of the last revision i committed?
[22:52] <LeoNerd> You can't, as such. You -can- uncommit and recommit again but that's kinda rude on anyone else who might have pulled the branch since then
[22:52] <LeoNerd> So only consider doing that if it's unpushed, or it's a private thing nobody else is likely to be using
[22:54] <hypnocat> i'm the only user of the particular repo where i need to make this change
[22:55] <hypnocat> i'll uncommit and recommit, then
[22:55] <hypnocat> thanks for your help


[00:00] <acheronuk> no, that's a script, not the config. by default /etc/sddm.conf does not exist as not needed
[00:01] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: If the sddm greeter crashes, then there must be some error message in the sddm log. did you give the full log of the sddm greeter previously or a partial one?
[00:02] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: ok
[00:02] <acheronuk>  /etc/sddm.conf will get created if you change setting, like set autologin
[00:02] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[00:03] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: which process creates the .xauthority file? xserver?
[00:04] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: can you paste the log once again using this command. journalctl -u sddm.service
[00:04] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: and journalctl -u sddm.service is by default verbose?
[00:07] <phoenix_firebrd> acheronuk: scott__ check this out https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/295#event-184014278
[00:09] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: is sddm service enabled?
[00:18] <scott__> sorry, was getting kids ready for bed
[00:20] <scott__> https://pastebin.com/Q0U8azNH
[00:21] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__:  can you paste the output of the following command "sudo journalctl -xn"
[00:23] <scott__> Here is the output to sudo journalctl -xn: https://pastebin.com/MDiUMAJm
[00:27] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: I think you are copying the log improperly
[00:28] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: how did you get that log?
[00:28] <scott__> oh sorry let me try again.  I didn't have konsole maximized
[00:28] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: no try piping to a text file
[00:28] <Fritigern> sudo journalctl -xn > textfile.txt
[00:29] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__:  like "sudo journalctl -xn > thelog.txt" then paste the content of the thelog.txt file here
[00:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Fritigern: just saw it :)
[00:30] <Fritigern> Um, best paste the contents of thelog.txt to pastebin...
[00:31] <scott__> try this https://pastebin.com/7SeQ9mtz
[00:34] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: run the following command and see if you see "active" in the message "sudo systemctl status sddm"
[00:35] <scott__> it is active
[00:35] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: and says running?
[00:36] <Esteban16> phoenix_firebrd: Hi. I just wrote the iso in the pendrive but in the boot option menu when selecting the USB it takes me to Kubuntu, not the the Windows installation
[00:37] <Esteban16> (with Rosa ImageWriter)
[00:37] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: you need to use a windows system and use the rufus application to prepare the windows iso. preparing a windows iso in linux is difficut
[00:37] <phoenix_firebrd> *difficult
[00:38] <scott__> it does say it's running.  Here's the pastebin if you need/want it: https://pastebin.com/f78e6iDA
[00:39] <Esteban16> phoenix_firebrd: Ok, I will prepare the iso in a Windows PC and then use the pendrive in Linux. Is it okay?
[00:39] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: are you using a wayland session?
[00:40] <scott__> how can I check that?
[00:40] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: can you restart and then run the command "sudo systemctl start sddm" instead of startx and see if you get errors?
[00:41] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: using top
[00:42] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: if you see any process like xwayland then you might be using wayland
[00:42] <scott__> according to top I'm using xorg
[00:42] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: ok
[00:42] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: can you restart and then run the command "sudo systemctl start sddm" instead of startx and see if you get errors?
[00:42] <scott__> sure brb
[00:42] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[00:43] <Esteban16> phoenix_firebrd: Hey!
[00:43] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: hi
[00:44] <Esteban16> │19:39:13       Esteban16 | phoenix_firebrd: Ok, I will prepare the iso in a Windows PC and then use the pendrive in Linux. Is it okay?
[00:44] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: after preparing the pendrive what are going to do with it in linux?
[00:45] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: Here is ksysguard with the new sensors tab I added. I didn't need to install lm-sensors at all. =) https://i.imgur.com/vCtihwt.png
[00:45] <Esteban16> phoenix_firebrd: To install Windows and remove Kubuntu. Sadly Linux is not for me
[00:45] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: Keepin it clean and mean. No need for extra cruft. =) kubuntu is serious business.
[00:46] <BionicMac> I added the "TEMPS" tab.
[00:46] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: what is that application?
[00:46] <BionicMac> ksysguard "System MOnitor"
[00:46] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac:  I think I have used that way back
[00:47] <BionicMac> It's part of default Plasma/Kde Kubuntu install.
[00:47] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: how did you get the temp tab?
[00:47] <Guest68780> phoenix_firebrd: I didn't write that command down.  What do I type after I reboot? lol
[00:47] <Guest68780> it's scott btw
[00:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: then go ahead and backup your data and then boot into your pendrive directly and then install windows
[00:48] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: "Settings/Show Toolbar" -> Then on the now visible toolbar "New Tab"
[00:49] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: using linux takes a little bit of getting to know the preliminary infos, but it is the future
[00:49] <BionicMac> There is another way without showing the toolbar, of course you can hide it when finished working with tabs.
[00:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Guest68780: did you run the command startx?
[00:50] <Esteban16> phoenix_firebrd: That's what I wanted to do :) but you just told me that preparing Windows isos in Linux is difficult, so I'll prepare in a Windows computer and do the rest.
[00:50] <Guest68780> I think it was sudo systemctl something sddm
[00:50] <Esteban16> *prepare it
[00:50] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: 'ksysguard' supports remote monitoring also.
[00:50] <phoenix_firebrd> scott__: can you restart and then run the command "sudo systemctl start sddm" instead of startx and see if you get errors?
[00:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Guest68780: ^
[00:50] <Guest68780> I had to, because I forgot what you said to type, and of course i didn't think to write it down
[00:50] <Guest68780> ok thanks
[00:51] <Guest68780> oh hey i did type that
[00:51] <Guest68780> nothing happened
[00:51] <Guest68780> or at least nothing appeared to happen
[00:51] <Esteban16> Again, thank you for your help phoenix_firebrd. Hope this time works
[00:51] <BionicMac> Esteban16: Good luck man.
[00:51] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: wait
[00:52] <Esteban16> Ok!
[00:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: if you are familiar with virtualbox, you could install reactos, mount the usb pendrive and then use rufus to write the iso in it
[00:53] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: but ofcorse you need to be familiar with virtualbox or vmware
[00:54] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: are you on 18.04?
[00:54] <Esteban16> Unfortunately I just used Virtualbox to install Windows (and that's not enough). I'm not familiar with it.
[00:56] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: yes. last nights buildd.
[00:56] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: I just got that tab, I installed from the gethotnewstuff dialog
[00:57] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: I just took the "Feature Tour" . Where is the gethotnewstuff?
[00:57] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: you downloaded a ready made tab? I made minee from scratch. I didn't know you could do that.
[00:59] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: ok, I found hotnewstuff...
[01:00] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: You downloaded "Temperature (lmsensors)" from gethotnewstuff ?
[01:01] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: How about a screenshot of your new tab? =)
[01:03] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: try "super+up-arrow" when focused on a window.
[01:04] <BionicMac> super+any-arrow =)
[01:09] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: https://imgur.com/a/xmmGy
[01:11] <phoenix_firebrd> feeling sleepy
[01:11] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: nice. They must use the lmsenors integratde into the ksysguard. When I added my temp tab I ket seeing lmsensors verbage from time to time in the process.
[01:12] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: getting blurry eyed here also.
[01:14] <phoenix_firebrd> hope the upcoming version is without any problematic bugs. I will try testing the betas later and check
[01:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Esteban16: sorry couldnt help you further, may be someone else will help you. But strictly support for creating a windows boot usb is not given here
[01:16] <phoenix_firebrd> I am off to bed, good night all
[01:17] <BionicMac> phoenix_firebrd: you mean the daily builds? Or the final release? If you need help testing let me know what I can do to help please. I don't mind setting aside a partition to reinstall frequently onto.
[01:17] <Guest68780> goodnight phoenix_firebrd thanks for your help
[01:17] <BionicMac> night, and let me know. Thanks again for all the help. Let me know how I can help test for the community.
[01:18] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: Guest68780 yw
[04:12] <valorie> BionicMac: we will need testers next week for the beta2 candidate
[04:12] <valorie> not sure what day the ISOs will be spun
[05:22] <BionicMac> valorie: I would be glad to test Kubuntu 18.04 Beta2. I have a partition ready to go on this iMac. I can pm you my email if you wish.
[05:22] <valorie> are you on the Kubuntu-devel ML or -users?
[05:22] <valorie> I'm getting a story ready for the website
[05:22] <valorie> I don't need your mail
[05:23] <valorie> set yourself up on the qatracker
[05:23] <valorie> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
[05:23] <valorie> get a login, read some of the help text, etc.
[05:29] <BionicMac> valorie: Great. On the way to the qatracker now...
[05:29] <BionicMac> Oh! more updates on Kubuntu.
[05:29] <valorie> you can ask questions about it here, or /j #kubuntu-devel
[05:30] <BionicMac> ok joining devel now.
[05:35] <BionicMac> valorie: I am not on either ML. I will register on Kubuntu-devel and -users.
[05:36] <valorie> it's good to have people on -users who can answer questions
[05:36] <valorie> some are basic, some are head-scratchers
[05:37] <valorie> -devel is devel stuff rather than questions
[05:37] <BionicMac> noted.
[05:39] <BionicMac> Oh... more Kubuntu updates since 30 minutes ago. 4 more right now: all related to *plymouth*
[05:41] <BionicMac> I like Muon. It is the first GuiFied 'apt' frontend I feel cozy with for some reason. I just like it. =)
[05:43] <BionicMac> I'm up to stuff fully up to date.
[05:44] <BionicMac> Killer default Icons on Kubuntu. I really love the default theme/Icons/Look&Feel/etc.. etc... in 18.04..
[06:21] <valorie> you'll be not at all surprised by beta2 then
[06:21] <valorie> but we need the installer and installation process as a whole tested too
[06:21] <valorie> in fact, that's the main test
[06:23] <BionicMac> valorie: Ok. Sounds great.
[06:24] <BionicMac> valorie: Done and done. both ML & qatracker.
[06:24] <valorie> you'll be able to just zsync your beta 1 ISO
[06:25] <BionicMac> Ok. I have the beta 1 iso from 3-29.
[06:25] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2018/01/seeding-new-isos-easy-zsync-way.html
[06:26] <BionicMac> check... on it.
[06:26] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2018/03/more-zsync-magic-for-lts-updates.html
[06:26] <valorie> for more about that
[06:26] <BionicMac> bookmarked and open. thanks!
[06:27] <valorie> :-)
[06:27] <valorie> about to head to bed
[06:27] <valorie> tomorrow is no longer a fool's day
[06:27] <valorie> :-)
[06:28] <BionicMac> me too... only because I took a melatonin about 20 minutes ago and it is hitting me. =0
[06:29] <BionicMac> Thanks for everything valorie. sleep tight.
[08:58] <user__> hey
[09:01] <user__> anyone?
[09:07] <ricktimmis[m]> Hey there
[09:10] <user__> i have a question regarding the virtual desktops
[09:10] <user__> the icons of the apps dont disappear
[09:10] <user__> so when i have ff on desktop 1, i can still see it on desktop 2
[09:11] <user__> how do i disable that?
[09:15] <ricktimmis[m]> Right click on top bar of FF, the choose which desktops to display on
[09:16] <ricktimmis[m]> You will also see choices for activities there too
[09:16] <user__> i just see move to desktop X
[09:16] <user__> it doesnt solve the problem
[09:16] <user__> i can see the ICON (not the window) in my taskbar
[09:17] <user__> so when i am on desktop 2 i see firefox in the task bar
[09:17] <user__> obviously when i click on it, it will move to desktop 1 and show me firefox there
[09:17] <user__> but i dont want to see the firefox icon in the task bar on desktop 2
[09:17] <user__> otherwise i have all icons cluttered on all my desktops
[09:20] <acheronuk> user__: have you 'pinned' it in error? if so, right click the icon and untick 'pin'
[09:20] <user__> acheronuk: No i havent
[09:20] <user__> and i have this behavior for all apps
[09:20] <user__> not just ff
[09:20] <user__> for all windows
[09:22] <acheronuk> ok. right click the task manager to get task manager settings, and make sure "show only tasks from the current desktop" is set
[09:23] <user__> acheronuk: Thank you! I was searching for this
[09:23] <acheronuk> no problem :)
[09:24] <user__> I have another question
[09:25] <user__> i have seen a lot of people with some kind of dock thing
[09:25] <user__> like in this picture on the left
[09:25] <user__> https://cn.pling.com/img/c/c/f/b/ef003de15fff2e620a9c3b9201bbcff30856.png
[09:25] <user__> How do i get this? What is that?
[09:27] <acheronuk> they are using latte-dock
[10:02] <werner_> Hi & happy easter from Berlin, I installed Kubuntu 17.10 on a T410. I get the following:
[10:02] <werner_> start-pulseaudio-x11
[10:03] <werner_> Verbindungsfehler: Verbindung verweigert
[10:03] <werner_> pa_context_new() fehlgeschlagen: Verbindung verweigert
[10:03] <werner_> any clues?
[10:09] <vespertatia> Go to System Settings > Driver Manager ?
[11:00] <werner_> tbc...
[11:00] <werner_> start-pulseaudio-x11
[11:00] <werner_> Verbindungsfehler: Verbindung verweigert
[11:00] <werner_> pa_context_new() fehlgeschlagen: Verbindung verweigert
[11:01] <werner_> I changed to the NVIDIA driver
[11:01] <werner_> no Pulseaudio
[11:01] <werner_> next annoyance:
[11:02] <werner_> the context menu in Firefox and thunderbird now need 5 sec to show up.
[11:03] <werner_> DMESG says:
[11:03] <werner_> duplicate WMI GUID 05901221-D566-11D1-B2F0-00A0C9062910 (first instance was on PNP0C14:00)
[11:03] <werner_> How can I get rid of this  "duplicate WMI GUID"?
[11:04] <werner_> Or should I reinstall Kubuntu for the 7th time now?
[11:05] <werner_> Does anyone have a clear Kubuntu by starting from scratch? Not me.
[11:20] <vespertatia> weverner_: It seems there's a ton of compatibility issues. Try entering these commands in Konsole:
[11:20] <vespertatia> sudo apt update
[11:20] <vespertatia> sudo apt upgrade
[11:27] <werner_> I did full-upgrade - no success
[12:03] <obert> full-upgrade exists?
[12:39] <mparillo> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
[12:40] <mparillo> not 100% sure if full-upgrade works with the older apt-get.
[12:40] <obert> never seen full-upgrade before
[12:41] <R13ose> When I am in a text field, + signs type forever without me doing anything and I can stop this by hitting shift.  How do I stop this?
[12:43] <R13ose> holding shift down*
[13:05] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[14:41] <fujisan> hi
[14:41] <fujisan> im new here hello greetings my frands
[14:42] <fujisan> can i run kubuntu with oxygen the 2010 edition?
[15:22] <herbeto> hey everyone! I'm sharing my laptop's ethernet connection via a hotspot to my phone. How do I change the DHCP server parameters asssigned to it?
[15:23] <herbeto> *to the phone
[15:23] <herbeto> under connection type, what does 'shared to other computers' mean?
[19:24] <AlexCDev> Hi, I've managed to break audio on my laptop. I was having the same issues as this ( https://askubuntu.com/questions/976375/kubuntu-17-10-no-audio-devices-found-no-settings-no-sound?rq=1 ) , and tried reinstalling pulse audio, but managed to remove the volume control program in kubuntu as well
[19:24] <AlexCDev> Apologies if I drop my connection is iffy, I'm on a train :p trying to make my slack notifications shut up, ahah
[19:25] <AlexCDev> so my issue is the same down to a tee, including spotify working, but firefox not, not being able to adjust the volume with the volume keys ect.
[19:31] <AlexCDev>  fixed, by editing the lines as per the askubuntu thread, then installing another manager like kmix
[19:48] <Blairen23> Has anyone here been able to use icloud web calendars with KOrganizer?


[08:50] <kivi> jeepers...  hurry up click
[08:50] <kivi> I wish they gave me a better idea how long creating the framework would take.
[10:10] <popey> kivi: creating a framework?
[10:10] <popey> oh, a kit?
[10:10] <kivi> popey, erm yah
[10:10] <kivi> its done now :P
[10:10] <popey> \o/
[10:10] <popey> it can take a while, ssd ftw :)
[10:10] <kivi> huzzah!
[10:11] <popey> huzzah indeed
[10:11] <kivi> I think I got this static linking down. I hope to submit an app to the competition you posted on your podcast.
[10:12] <popey> oooh
[10:12] <popey> yay
[10:12] <kivi> \o/
[10:15] <svij> yay for the ubucontest ;)
[10:16] <ogra_> hah, tiny rifles
[10:16] <ogra_> popey knowledge spreads :)
[10:17] <kivi> tiny rifles?
[10:17] <ogra_> html5 offline game ...
[10:17] <ogra_> just hit the store
[10:17]  * kivi really needs to get a device
[10:23] <popey> ogra_: oh sweet!
[10:23] <popey> \o/ more games
[10:23] <ogra_> yeah :)
[12:23] <rockn> Hello, i trying to embed fullcalendar in a html5 app. my app is a tabs style. the calendar is not on the first tab and it is not shown when I select the tab. I think I have this problem : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10340362/jquery-fullcalendar-not-rendering
[12:23] <rockn> but I don't know where and how write the answer in my code...see my code here : https://github.com/wood-galaxy/CDL/tree/full-calendar
[14:20] <DF_> hi some one here??
[14:20] <kivi> DF_, yep
[14:20] <kivi> sleepy
[14:20] <DF_> ok nice, can some one see my projeto
[14:21] <kivi> projeto?
[14:21] <DF_> my web app doesnt run
[14:21] <DF_> project*
[14:21] <kivi> DF_, what app?
[14:21] <DF_> i've done everything right and he doesnt run on my mx4
[14:21] <DF_> a web app
[14:21] <kivi> DF_, you sure it isn't running into app armor?\
[14:22]  * kivi is not a html5 dev
[14:22] <DF_> yep
[14:22] <DF_> i'll send the link to the files
[14:23] <DF_> https://mega.nz/#!aIUXUIAb!nnbLaCOcghF67pygDYowDjsVpdQSW6S04uEq9JJhZrk
[14:24] <kivi> DF_, why are you using mega, and not launchpad?
[14:25] <DF_> kivi i'm kind used to mega
[14:25] <kivi> DF_, isn't it just an upload site?
[14:26] <DF_> yep
[14:26] <DF_> i've not set yet the ssl on launchpad
[14:27] <DF_> meter i've not configured launchpad on my pc yet
[14:27] <kivi> DF_, You should try launchpad. It makes it much easier for devs here to looka t your code.
[14:27] <DF_> beter*
[14:27] <DF_> ok
[14:27] <DF_> i'll configure launchpad right now
[14:27] <kivi> :)
[16:57] <D0k_> hi all!


[03:20] <kwadroke> I have arrived
[03:32] <kwadroke> anyone come here any more for chat night?
[03:43] <kwadroke> hello?
[03:55] <kwadroke> guess not


[03:21] <rww> no idea what that ^ was all about
[03:21] <rww> i guess daftykins made a friend or something
[03:22] <phunyguy> it looks like a bot
[03:22] <phunyguy> anytime daftykins said anything, it said it was watching him
[03:22] <rww> hence my comment :P
[03:22] <phunyguy> :|
[03:29] <phunyguy> is totem a "ban on site"?
[03:30] <phunyguy> sight*
[03:34] <IdleOne> he gets very little leash
[03:34] <IdleOne> nice mute on all the things
[03:35] <phunyguy> yeah that null guy was c00kie again
[03:35] <phunyguy> so ban.
[03:58] <phunyguy> person is back with a different IP
[04:13] <phunyguy> Set #ubuntu +r for now.  Someone please remove later
[04:35] <phunyguy> [00:33:23] <-- Consuela (~lol@unaffiliated/stupid) has quit (Quit: And i've fuckin' left the room.)  errrrrr
[05:27] <rww> phunyguy: yeah, that's derp for ya. has had that quit message for a while
[05:46] <rww> why is zacwalls!~zsw@2001:558:6025:11:48de:2189:43c5:4d0c familiar
[05:46] <rww> oh, it's that... person
[05:53] <rww> @comment 63473 wasting time deliberately, long bantracker history as zsw, do not unban without consultation, re-ban on ban evasion (probable)
[05:54] <rww> @duration 63473 90d
[06:05] <rww> @duration 63475 90d
[09:11] <knome> oh, zacwalls is zsw...
[09:40] <zacwalls> will you unban me knome?
[09:40] <knome> zacwalls, i won't, i have no powers in #ubuntu.
[09:41] <knome> zacwalls, but this is the channel to discuss the removal.
[09:41] <zacwalls> rww, will you?
[09:43] <zacwalls> Flannel what about you
[09:45] <Unit193> Just make your case and wait for an answer, pinging everyone (that might not even be here) isn't going to be useful, if anything a detriment.
[09:50] <ikonia> whats up ?
[11:09] <bazhang> zacwalls, why were you banned in #ubuntu
[11:29] <samuraiRM> siamo tutti bannati?
[11:30] <samuraiRM> ma
[11:30] <samuraiRM> nessuno parla
[11:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu-irc please samuraiRM
[14:52] <rww> from last night:
[14:52] <rww> 05:57:36 <zacwalls> im done with irc and all you arrogant pricks for a while. you in general on a whole another level.
[14:52] <rww> guess that didn't last long.
[14:52] <rww> and he's well aware that he's not going back in #ubuntu.
[15:53] <SamwiseGamgee> is there a permanent record of the text messages printed in a particular channel, recorded onto a freenode server each day?
[15:53] <Pici> !logs
[15:54] <Pici> ^
[15:54] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks
[16:24] <rww> SamwiseGamgee: Anything else we can help with? If not, please /part so that we can keep the channel clear for other issues. Thanks :)
[16:24] <SamwiseGamgee> ok
[16:26] <SamwiseGamgee> I will write the irc logs link into my journal before I leave
[17:05] <IdleOne> You're gonna get in trouble
[17:05] <IdleOne> neener neener neener
[17:07] <Pici> already landed in the ircc's mailing list... I suppose I need to approve it.
[17:09] <IdleOne> need is a word that is used far too often
[17:09] <IdleOne> Do you really need to?
[17:09] <IdleOne> I don't think you do.
[17:40] <zacwalls> hello i was banned from ubuntu
[17:41] <IdleOne> how come?
[17:42] <rww> taking a hilarious amount of support effort on md5summing an ISO. see also: bantracker history
[17:42] <zacwalls> misunderstanding of trolling. i was confused.
[17:42] <IdleOne> Are you less confused now?
[17:42] <zacwalls> after reading a few guides yes
[17:42] <rww> I thought you were "done with IRC and all [us] arrogant pricks for a while"?
[17:42] <zacwalls> i was
[17:43] <rww> guess we have different definitions of "a while"
[17:43] <zacwalls> i was mainly referring to you.
[17:43] <IdleOne> Good, I'm glad the confusion is gone. Now you can take some time to reflect on your behavior. Come back in a week or two and we can discuss removing the ban then
[17:43] <zacwalls> ha okay sure
[17:43] <rww> well no, we can't, since the last time he acted out we said that if he does it again he's gone for good
[17:44] <zacwalls> it was not me
[17:44] <rww> not buying that.
[17:44] <zacwalls> my friend logged in as my user
[17:44] <elky> LOL
[17:44] <elky> no
[17:44] <zacwalls> i cleared that up with knome\
[17:44] <IdleOne> ah, well. I guess the ops can take some time to discuss if we are willing to give you another chance. For now the ban stays.
[17:44] <knome> nope.
[17:45] <knome> that was AGES ago.
[17:45] <rww> last time you acted out we told you you're responsible for the security of your account from now on too
[17:45] <zacwalls> we had different ip
[17:45] <zacwalls> and mac
[17:45] <IdleOne> anyway, all this is irrelevant. The ban is not being removed.
[17:45] <IdleOne> Have a good day
[17:45] <rww> I have linked you to our alternative support options. Please avail yourself of them. You will not be using #ubuntu on IRC for support.
[17:47] <rww> @mark #ubuntu-ops zacwalls
[17:47] <rww> ikonia: around?
 hey guys is ubuntu better than xubuntu and kubuntu?
[17:50] <knome> well nope, obviously.
[17:51] <rww> Ubuntu's based on Debian, and Xubuntu and Kubuntu are based on Ubuntu, and Debian is better than Ubuntu, so Ubuntu is better than Xubuntu and Kubuntu.
[17:51] <rww> LOGICS
[17:51] <knome> so, since newer computers are based on older computer technology, older computers are better? logics fail.
[17:51] <IdleOne> grendal_prime: Can we help you?
[17:52] <rww> knome: not sure how that follows from what I said :P
[17:52] <grendal_prime> nope client autologed me into ubuntu but im aparetnly banned.
[17:52] <IdleOne> indeed
[17:53] <rww> yep. please refer to our previous conversation from the last time this happened :)
[17:56] <grendal_prime> then chat x crashes...while im trying to remove the channel.
 most companies have one kernel dev or another
[19:19] <bazhang> HI welcome to walmart
[19:23] <elky> ?
[21:16] <h00k> bazhang: lol'd


[07:41] <nixternal> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/709
[07:41] <nixternal> article in queue awaiting approval
[08:29] <robitaille> nixternal:  I'm looking at your article in the queue
[08:37] <robitaille> I changed a few minor things.  But I'm not sure about the title.
[08:57] <ubotu> New on thefridge: Linux.conf.au 2007 <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/709>
[08:28] <ubotu> New on thefridge: Behind Ubuntu: Ben Collins <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/708>


[00:00] <aquarius> really? on a phone??
[00:00] <cjohnston> android running opera
[00:01] <aquarius> clicking a meeting name should open the session description below the session name
[00:01] <aquarius> try doing it in firefox with a window less than 400 px wide to see how it's meant to work
[00:01] <aquarius> I'll try it in opera
[00:02] <cjohnston> i need to figure out how to take screenshots
[00:02] <aquarius> god, you're right
[00:02] <aquarius> how annoying
[00:02] <cjohnston> opera the /uds-p/ page looks right
[00:02] <cjohnston> the defualt browser, that page looks like crapola
[00:02] <aquarius> don't know why that is without debugging it
[00:02] <cjohnston> i dont care.. i wont use it anyway
[00:02] <cjohnston> but if anyone files a bug ill assign you
[00:02] <aquarius> really? the uds-p page looks good to me in default
[00:03] <cjohnston> now the agenda.. thats cool
[00:03] <aquarius> if you could poke a few people to test it so that I'm not bugfixing *during* uds, that'd be great :P
[00:03] <cjohnston> yup
[00:11] <cjohnston> aquarius: bug #925811
[00:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 925811 in summit "Agenda view clicks through to meeting view on opera mobile (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925811
[00:29] <cjohnston> aquarius: bugs are being filed.. lol
[00:29] <aquarius> already??
[00:29] <aquarius> god almighty
[00:30] <cjohnston> 2
[00:30] <cjohnston> hehe
[00:30] <aquarius> if there are lots it might be worth poking it so you only get the magic mobile view with ?m=1 on the end of the URL or something
[00:30] <aquarius> :)
[00:30] <nigelb> aquarius: sorry about the clasroom mixup. I'd already gone to bed by then.
[00:31] <cjohnston> so far with whats come in, im not worried about it
[00:31] <nigelb> Morning cjohnston
[00:31] <aquarius> nigelb, is fine
[00:31] <aquarius> we got it sorted :)
[00:31] <cjohnston> hey nigelb
[00:31] <nigelb> what's the stars thing you pinged me about?
[00:31] <cjohnston> the fact that i want to move the js hide talks that arent for me crap
[00:32] <cjohnston> s/move/remove
[00:32] <nigelb> er, and make it how?
[00:32] <cjohnston> get rid of it
[00:32] <nigelb> Remove the feature too?
[00:33] <cjohnston> ya
[00:33] <cjohnston> its broken again
[00:33] <cjohnston> why keep fixing it
[00:33] <nigelb> Linaro is cool with that? In Budapeest they got mhall119 to fix that bug on the plane.
[00:33] <cjohnston> the agenda thing replaces it
[00:33] <aquarius> bin the JS thing
[00:33] <aquarius> I wrote that
[00:33] <aquarius> in about fifteen minutes
[00:33] <aquarius> about six UDSes ago :)
[00:33] <nigelb> wow.
[00:33] <cjohnston> and we have been limping it along ever since
[00:34] <aquarius> cjohnston, the broken image is the QR code
[00:34] <knome> if it works, don't fix it ;)
[00:34] <cjohnston> right
[00:34] <cjohnston> ahh
[00:34] <cjohnston> hrm
[00:34] <cjohnston> i guess i need to put an if statemetn in there
[00:34] <aquarius> cjohnston, I have no idea what the deal with the qr code is... but it's got <img ... src="">
[00:34] <aquarius> which is why it's broken :)
[00:34] <aquarius> you might wanna poke that ;)
[00:35] <cjohnston> will do
[00:35] <cjohnston> prolly wont get fixed prior to conenct tho cause connect has a qr code
[00:35] <aquarius> or better still, poke it and then display:none it in the mobile stylesheet, since you don't need it on a mobile by defniition :P
[00:35] <cjohnston> but i wouldnt mind removing the qr code if its mobile
[00:35] <cjohnston> it isnt needed
[00:35] <cjohnston> ;-)
[00:35] <aquarius> display:none'ing it in the mobile stylesheet will fix the reported bug, anyway :P
[00:41] <mhall119> aquarius: that javascript was your fault eh?
[00:42] <cjohnston> hehehe
[00:42] <aquarius> mhall119, yep.
[00:42] <aquarius> in my defence it was written really quickly, sitting on the edge of a big round table at a party :)
[00:42] <aquarius> with jcastro hassling me to come get more beer the whole time :)
[00:43] <aquarius> I'd have looked at helping to fix it if I'd have known it was problematic!
[00:43] <cjohnston> aquarius:  we have about 20 bugs for it
[00:43] <cjohnston> lol
[00:43]  * cjohnston goes to subscribe aquarius to all summit bug notifications.. hehe
[00:44] <aquarius> this is what happens when something really quick gets written :P
[00:44] <cjohnston> seems like every cycle without fail we break it
[00:44] <aquarius> what, in general, is wrong with it? That it's not highlighting the right stuff, or that it is highlighting too much stuff, or that it throws errors?
[00:44] <nigelb> Wejust break it very often.
[00:44] <cjohnston> and now with the new display, i have no care to keep it
[00:44]  * aquarius rtfs
[00:44] <cjohnston> everything greys out
[00:44] <aquarius> I'd bin it if I were you.
[00:44] <cjohnston> i will
[00:45] <cjohnston> as soon as connect is over
[00:45] <cjohnston> i may remove the link and add that to trunk and if we end up having to push out another update it will be in there
[00:45] <cjohnston> but i dont want to scrap the code this close to connect
[00:46] <aquarius> what a magnificent piece of code that is
[00:46] <aquarius> I can't see anything wrong with it, myself ;)
[00:47] <nigelb> hehe
[00:47] <aquarius> it's pretty sensitive to how the HTML is laid out, I admit it
[00:48] <cjohnston> hehe
[00:48] <aquarius> the sessions don't contain a participants list any more
[00:49] <aquarius> at least the ones on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-10-31/display don't
[00:49] <aquarius> so the JS isn't going to work -- it can't find you in the list of participants (because there is no list of participants) and thus it hides every session :)
[00:50] <aquarius> if you want to quickly bin it without screwing with the code too much, just comment out the line that adds the link to the nav bar
[00:50] <aquarius> document.getElementById("sub-nav").appendChild(lnk);
[00:50] <aquarius> change to
[00:50] <aquarius> /document.getElementById("sub-nav").appendChild(lnk);
[00:50] <aquarius> er
[00:50] <aquarius> //document.getElementById("sub-nav").appendChild(lnk);
[00:50] <aquarius> then it won't add the link :)
[13:53] <cjohnston> danilos: ping
[14:08] <danilos> cjohnston, hi
[14:08] <cjohnston> danilos: so the whole thing from the email this morning is fixed?
[14:11] <danilos> cjohnston, I am not sure what email that's about, but I think Stephen is pretty happy now
[14:12] <cjohnston> the thing with users not showing up in the private meeting list
[14:16] <danilos> yes, I fixed that
[14:16] <cjohnston> ok
[15:38] <cjohnston> mhall119: it seems as though meetings with etherpad pages created prior to me making it possible to select pad.l.o have a pad.u.c link already coded in... this was brought up to me this morning
[15:40] <cjohnston> would it be possible to s/ubuntu.com/linaro.org without messing up the hash url stuff and all that for private meetings
[15:40] <cjohnston> salgado: ^
[15:40] <salgado> hash url?
[15:40] <cjohnston> salgado: private meetings have a "hash" in the url
[15:41] <cjohnston> so its pad.u.c/lcq1-12-<hash here>
[15:41] <salgado> oh, ok, the unique identifier in the URL
[15:41] <cjohnston> that way it isnt guessible
[15:41] <salgado> sure, we can just run an SQL to replace pad.u.c with pad.l.o
[15:41] <cjohnston> non private meetings are http://pad.linaro.org/lcq1-12-linaro-gfxmm-q112-codecs-neon
[15:43] <salgado> cjohnston, so, the db is sqlite3 right? do you know where it is?
[15:43] <salgado> IS ought to know
[15:44] <cjohnston> db is postgres
[15:44] <cjohnston> other than that, i dont know
[15:44] <cjohnston> g2g.. call
[15:45] <salgado> oh, right, it's status that's sqlite3
[15:56] <mhall119> cjohnston: yes, once the hash url is generated once, it's saved
[15:57] <mhall119> so changing other fields won't change it
[16:07] <salgado> update schedule_meeting set pad_url = replace(pad_url, 'pad.ubuntu.com', 'pad.linaro.org') where summit = 7 and pad_url ilike '%pad.ubuntu.com%';
[16:07] <salgado> cjohnston, mhall119, that will fix the broken URLs.  can you think of anything that this could break?
[16:11] <mhall119> salgado: I think so
[16:12]  * nigelb suggests a db back before you run that.
[16:12] <nigelb> *backup
[16:12] <salgado> mhall119, you mean it will break something?
[16:12] <salgado> nigelb, it can easily be reverted; I have the list of items it will update
[16:12] <nigelb> ah, cool.
[16:33] <mhall119> salgado-lunch: sorry, I think it's safe
[16:33] <cjohnston> danilos: nigelb
[16:34] <cjohnston> meetings in the past not being moved by the autoscheduler
[16:34] <cjohnston> discuss
[16:34] <nigelb> do you mean autoscheduler or rescheduler?
[16:34] <cjohnston> re
[16:34] <nigelb> I clearly remember fixing it once.
[16:35] <nigelb> Is it being moved now?
[16:35] <cjohnston> i dont think we have left it running to know
[20:11] <mhall119> daker: ping
[20:13] <mhall119> cjohnston: ping
[20:51] <cjohnston> mhall119: ?
[21:06] <mhall119> cjohnston: do you know the state of any of the merge proposals for ltp?
[21:07] <cjohnston> nop3
[21:07] <cjohnston> nope
[21:07] <cjohnston> not really
[21:07] <cjohnston> all i remember is it isnt ready for django 1.3
[21:10] <mhall119> :(
[21:10] <mhall119> ok
[21:12] <cjohnston> it isnt ready for 1.3 because of IS, but because of us
[21:28] <mhall119> they don't want to install it system-wide?
[21:29] <cjohnston> no
[21:29] <cjohnston> due to compatability with other sites
[21:31] <cjohnston> plus, cranberry is getting worse
[21:31] <cjohnston> im back to getting a few emails a day from status
[21:31] <mhall119> fragaria has been stable though
[21:31] <mhall119> maybe we can get LTP moved
[21:32] <cjohnston> fragaria is summit only
[21:32] <cjohnston> and summit related stuff
[21:34] <mhall119> no reason it can't run ltp too
[21:34] <mhall119> hmmm, prod has meetings that staging didn't get....
[21:35] <mhall119> wait no, it did find that other one
[21:35] <cjohnston> mhall119: look in the other channel
[21:35] <cjohnston> theres errors


[03:17] <jackson> evening
[03:21] <jthan> jackson: Hey
[03:22] <jackson> o/
[03:22] <jackson> go steelers
[03:22] <jackson> :)
[03:22] <jthan> Meh, you know.. I'm a cowboys fan.
[03:24] <jackson> np some people have team handicap problem
[03:24] <jthan> Lol
[07:31] <HowdyDoody> Goooood Mawnin' 2 u all
[09:17] <rmg51> Morning
[12:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[12:26] <JonathanD> Hi.
[12:34] <teddy-dbear> o/
[14:22]  * waltman gives teddy-dbear some chocolates
[14:24] <teddy-dbear> chocolate is always welcome :-D
[15:41] <r00t^2> anyone have contact info for temple and upenn job boards?
[15:41] <r00t^2> have a posting
[18:28] <MutantTurkey> so now the streets department blocked off my exit from a road... but i am stuck in 2 hour parking
[18:28] <MutantTurkey> what should I do?
[18:42] <teddy-dbear> sleep in your car
[18:49] <waltman> contact your city councilperson to fix the ticket you'll be getting? :)
[19:18] <MutantTurkey> too bad they'refucking crooks
[19:23] <waltman> I'm not sure I understand your complaint. What does "my exit from a road" mean?
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> 1 way, very narrow street, giant truck blocking the exit, permenantly parked, in the opposite direction of the street, smack at the exit of the street
[19:37] <MutantTurkey> enterance -> me -> truck -> end of block
[19:37] <jedijf> back out carefully
[19:40] <MutantTurkey> yeah that wasn't really a viable option either
[19:40] <MutantTurkey> when i went back the guy was there and I told him to move it, so he did. ended up being no prob
[19:41] <jedijf> wasted all that irc time for nothing
[19:42] <jedijf> 12 minutes
[19:42] <jedijf> hour and 12 minutes
[19:42] <MutantTurkey> ?
[19:42] <MutantTurkey> r00t^2: what is it>?
[19:42] <MutantTurkey> also drexel has a job board
[19:42] <MutantTurkey> but what's the position
[19:42] <MutantTurkey> i think drexel's is only engineering (the one i am thinking of one)
[20:24] <MutantTurkey> join #trinity-desktop


[10:16] <brainwash> please set the status of xfce4-power-manager to 'invalid' bug 1307545
[10:17] <brainwash> the report is focusing on light-locker which has been fixed


[06:15] <fabbione> morning
[10:43] <elmo> NO WAY
[10:43] <elmo> fabbione: dude, now you've killed crested :-P
[10:46] <fabbione> no shit :)
[10:46] <fabbione> i have no access to it :P
[06:18] <lamont__> elmo: ping
[09:35] <jbailey-gcc> lamont, lamont__: ping?
[09:49] <lamont__> jbailey-gcc: yo
[09:53] <jbailey-gcc> lamont__: Was chatting with an IBM ppc guy, and he recommended that we do -mtune=power4 on ppc.
[09:53] <lamont__> iz certainly possible
[09:54] <lamont__> prolly wants to be an overridable tune, thouhg.
[09:54] <jbailey-gcc> Are we able to do that?
[09:55] <jbailey-gcc> I don't know how important allowing the package to override tune is, mind you.
[09:56] <lamont__> overrides come in 'if they don't say anything', always clear, and always force varieties.
[09:56] <jbailey-gcc> -mcpu is far more important to let the package override.
[09:57] <lamont__> yeah, but when the, oh say video/audio app, specifically builds things tuned for each of 3 processor families, overriding all of them to one specific family is, um, not so good.
[09:58] <jbailey-gcc> Right. =)
[10:05] <jbailey-gcc> Hmm, just chatting with James Morrison who hacks on the gcc sparc backend, and he's suggested that we might want to give similar treatment to sparc.
[10:06] <jbailey-gcc> although in that case we should do both mcpu and mtune, and possible mvis
[10:06] <lamont__> happy to take tunes - if you could email me the lot of them, I'll probably push new bits sometime soonish
[10:06] <lamont__> like after the weekend
[10:07] <lamont__> as it sits, the only thing we force on !i386 is -pipe
[10:07] <jbailey-gcc> I remember that, so I've been trying to find out interesting settings. =)
[10:08] <lamont__> please.  and thanks
[10:10] <jbailey-gcc> Will do.
[10:21] <cfan>  hi.. i want to shift to debian from fedora core 3.. can people tell me what flavour i should use in debian


[00:05] <cliebow> anyone comment on openldap 2.4.11 in intrepid and syncrepl issues?
[00:13] <sommer> cliebow: do you have a specific error?
[00:15] <cliebow> just doesnt work..i had it runnnning Thursday..on reboot friday..stopped working...i see nothing in logs at 32767 to describe what is wrong
[00:16] <sommer> cliebow: you'll get errors if you start slapd in a terminal with: sudo slapd -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d -h ldap:/// -d -1
[00:17] <sommer> cliebow: there might also be errors in /var/log/syslog
[00:25] <cliebow> ive been watching syslog..a lot..ill try a manual start..
[00:25] <cliebow> agaoin
[00:36] <cliebow> * host: <IP_ADDRESS>  port: 389  (default)
[00:36] <cliebow>   refcnt: 2  status: Connected
[00:37] <cliebow> i cant see anything suspicious..
[07:08] <kriel> Okay, so. I just made my very first software raid5 using mdadm. Woo. Now, what do I need to save so that if my OS drive happens to die; I can still recover this RAID?
[09:24] <decembre> hello
[09:24] <decembre> I have a problem with my small server and a run-parts task
[09:25] <decembre> can anybobdy help me ?
[10:34] <baldaris> hey can any one help me with implementing sasl using postfix..
[10:35] <baldaris> any one?
[10:39] <cemc> baldaris: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
[10:40] <cemc> you read that and still no luck ?
[10:40] <baldaris> yeah i have setupup postfix..and i am able to send mails from my server
[10:41] <baldaris> but when i am trying to send mail from outside server..it says relay access denied..
[10:41] <baldaris> the username and password i am using for authentication is working..
[10:41] <baldaris> i am not sure where i am messing it up..
[10:41] <cemc> can you post main.cf ?
[10:41] <baldaris> yeah sure..
[10:42] <cemc> in a pastebin... :)
[10:45] <baldaris>  http://www.pastebin.ca/1355734
[10:46] <baldaris> when i open telnet for mydomain name, i get 250 for all options..
[10:48] <cemc> and you sure the SASL authentication part is working?
[10:49] <baldaris> yeah i wrote the php script..to check for username and password and it it returned 250 okay
[10:49] <baldaris> is something worng..?
[10:51] <cemc> it should work as far as I can tell from the config, but what php exactly? how is SASL set up to lookup users/passwords?
[10:53] <baldaris> i am trying to send e-mail from remote host using my dedicated emial server..
[10:53] <baldaris> email server..
[10:54] <baldaris> for sending a suth request
[10:54] <baldaris> fputs($smtpConnect,"AUTH LOGIN" . $newLine);
[10:54] <baldaris>     $smtpResponse = fgets($smtpConnect, 515);
[10:54] <baldaris>      echo $smtpResponse."<br/>";
[10:54] <baldaris>     $logArray['authrequest'] = "$smtpResponse";
[10:54] <baldaris> similary i can send request for username and password and get the responce i am getting..
[10:56] <cemc> and how is that php script tied into postfix ?
[10:57] <baldaris> i am using SMTP to connect server, port, username,password
[10:57] <baldaris> do you want me to paste the code..
[11:01] <RoyK> hi all. I keep trying to backup this dvd, but it fails http://pastebin.com/m1dadd537
[11:02] <cemc> baldaris: I think I misunderstood. you have a remote server and you're trying to send mail with a php script through another mailserver with authentication
[11:02] <cemc> ?
[11:02] <baldaris> yeah right
[11:03] <baldaris> i have a dedicated mail server
[11:03] <baldaris> and i am trying to send a mail from another hosting account, and to use my email server,from outside i am using smtp
[11:04] <baldaris> check this paste..
[11:04] <baldaris> http://www.pastebin.ca/1355739
[11:08] <baldaris> ?
[11:08] <cemc> did you try sending from that remote with simply telnetting?
[11:08] <cemc> just to see if it works
[11:10] <baldaris> yeah i am able to send mail using telnet
[11:10] <baldaris> and i am able to send mail using this script which is uploaded in my server..
[11:10] <cemc> from the same machine ?
[11:10] <baldaris> yeah
[11:10] <cemc> I mean from the hosting machine?
[11:11] <baldaris> i can send mail via telnet from my dedicated server...
[11:11] <baldaris> from my laptop , remote hosting account i am able to send mail via telnet
[11:11] <baldaris> but when i use this php script to send mail , it gives me relay access denied..
[11:12] <cemc> and can you see the error message in the maillogs on the mailserver?
[11:12] <cemc> does it say it's authenticated?
[11:13] <baldaris> yeah wait let me check..
[11:13] <baldaris> i am checking mail log and auth log
[11:17] <baldaris> okay
[11:18] <baldaris> warning sasl authentication failed
[11:18] <baldaris>  warning: do not list domain mails.me.com in BOTH virtual_mailbox_domains and relay_domains
[11:20] <baldaris> reject: RCPT from unknown[ip]: 554 5.7.1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Relay access denied<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>proto=SMTP helo=<mails.me.com>
[11:20] <baldaris> so does that mean i am messing up with sasl authentication..
[11:21] <_ruben> and<EMAIL_ADDRESS>doenst look too sane either
[11:22] <cemc> ;)
[11:22] <cemc> not so much
[11:23] <cemc> keep an eye on the logfiles when trying stuff
[11:23] <baldaris> sorry i actually changed mail address before posting..
[11:23] <baldaris> i hope its okay with you..
[11:23] <baldaris> so any idea..where i am messing up, you said mail.cf file is okay
[11:24] <cemc> well it looks ok, but you just said the sasl auth is failing
[11:24] <cemc> that's where the problem is I suppose
[11:24] <baldaris> yeah thats what is says in log
[11:24] <baldaris> but if its failing, why i am able to send mails..
[11:24] <baldaris> it shouldnt send mails...right..
[11:24] <cemc> wait a minute
[11:25] <baldaris> k..
[11:25] <cemc> in the php file, you sending auth login first, then helo ?
[11:25] <cemc> not good
[11:26] <cemc> helo, auth login, mail from, rcpt to, it should be in this order
[11:26] <baldaris> k..
[11:26] <cemc> try putting the helo first, at least my postfix doesn't let me auth login before helo
[11:28] <baldaris> yeah i did it...
[11:29] <baldaris> yeah now i am getting Authentication failure in my acript too..
[11:29] <baldaris> so i guess there is something wrong in the settings..
[11:36] <baldaris> smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
[11:36] <baldaris> in my  main.cf file this is missing..
[11:36] <baldaris> and relay host is empty
[11:38] <cemc> I'm not sure you need that smtp_sasl_password_maps
[11:40] <baldaris> okay and i am not having sasl_passwd file also..instead i see a sasl forlder a file named smptd.conf
[11:40] <baldaris> somethings in guide , are confisuing me
[11:41] <cemc> yeah, that's where you set sasl from there it should look up username and password
[11:43] <cemc> sasl is a framework for authentication. postfix uses sasl to get some user authenticated, but you have to set up sasl to get the usernames and passwords from somewhere
[11:43] <baldaris> ooh
[14:57] <mrwes> I have Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop running and I'd like to change that to 8.04 Server Edition, I a separate partition for /home formated ext3. Does the server edition use a /home partition too?
[14:58] <mrwes> I want to use it mainly for a home file and print server
[14:59] <mrwes> hrmm
[14:59] <racecar56> it is posible
[15:00] <racecar56> however remember: server additions are for SERVERS, not casual desktop PCs
[15:00] <racecar56> i mean server operating systems
[15:00] <mrwes> Yes I plan to run the server headless and use ssh to acces it
[15:01] <mrwes> I'm planning a 10GB / , a swap and the rest /data formated NTFS
[15:01] <mrwes> I have windows machines accessing it too
[15:02] <jtaji> that's no reason to use ntfs, use ext3, and samba for the windows machine to access
[15:02] <mrwes> ahh Ok -- I'd rather do that yes
[15:02] <racecar56> mrwes don't make a NTFS partition, samba can share them even on linux FS
[15:03] <mrwes> does the server edition use /home for the administrator account /home ?
[15:03] <mrwes> read and write ?
[15:03] <mrwes> from a Windows XP laptop?
[15:28] <Jubez> hi, i deleted a file by mistake
[15:28] <Jubez> how do i retrieve it?
[15:28] <Jubez> sorry, real newbie
[15:28] <racecar56> rm?
[15:28] <racecar56> if so then idk
[15:28] <racecar56> google should help
[15:28] <racecar56> gotta go bye, good luck
[15:28] <Jubez> i just highlighted it and pressed delete, heh
[15:29] <racecar56> ahhh its in the recycle bin
[15:29] <Jubez> i have the desktop installed on server version
[15:29] <racecar56> thats nuts
[15:29] <Jubez> where's my recycle bin?
[15:29] <Jubez> i was just testing it out
[15:29] <racecar56> i don't know but if you are using gnome then you should haave it on the bottom right
[15:29] <racecar56> i have to go now, good luck
[15:30] <Jubez> ah, my screen was sized wrong
[15:30] <Jubez> couldnt see that
[15:30] <Jubez> hehe, thanks much!
[15:40] <wesouler> hi all
[15:44] <Jubez> hello
[15:45] <wesouler> Did anybody install Ubuntu 8.10 amd64 server on to IBM X3650? After reboot  there is a blinking cursor in the upper left side of the screen ...what's happen?
[15:47] <roy_hobbs> I've been struggling with OpenLDAP for a while now and only just came across Fedora DS and Apache DS.  They both seem fairly robust, and both have nice GUIs to work with.  Why do people seem to favor OpenLDAP so much?  Am I missing something?  Am I at a distinct disadvantage by using apache or fedora?  (I'm leaning towards fedora because it's c/c++ as opposed to java)
[15:50] <domas> fedora DS is opensourced Sun stuff
[15:50] <domas> for a while it wasn't opensourced
[15:50] <domas> so, openldap existed ;-)
[15:51] <roy_hobbs> domas: i read that fedora and openldap both spawned from netscape
[15:51] <roy_hobbs> fedora ds i should say
[15:51] <domas> ghm, I remember using netscape ldap back in 1.0 times, and it wasn't similar to openldap ;-)
[15:51] <domas> maybe I remember it wrong? ;-)
[15:52] <domas> openldap started from umich clone
[15:52] <domas> haha, I remember running umich ldap though %)
[15:54] <roy_hobbs> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#How_is_Fedora_Directory_Server_different_from_OpenLDAP.3F
[15:57] <roy_hobbs> What I'm really interested in though is if there are actually any major reasons to use openldap.  Fedora DS just seems so much more polished.
[16:15] <chrisadams> hi guys
[16:16] <chrisadams> I'm trying to set up an ubunut server to accept connections from an external host - is this the right way to do it? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-247947.html
[16:43] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have my shoutcast server setup
[16:44] <eagles0513875> but for some reason when people try and connect with windows media player it complains about a missing codec what could i be missingf
[16:44] <jpds> Ogg?
[16:45] <eagles0513875> mp3
[16:45] <eagles0513875> i have lame ffmpeg installed
[16:59] <wesouler> Is Anybody install Ubuntu 8.10 amd64 server on IBM X3650 with Raid 1?
[17:00] <giovani> wesouler: haha ... unlikely you'd find someone with that exact setup
[17:03] <wesouler> giovani ,i installed sucessful,but after reboot ...there is a blinking cursor on the top.
[17:03] <cemc> eagles0513875: does it work if you connect with winamp?
[17:03] <wesouler> Is grub missing?
[17:03] <giovani> wesouler: hardware raid-1 I presume?
[17:03] <wesouler> yes
[17:03] <giovani> grub might be missing, or corrupted
[17:03] <wesouler> hd0 hd1->raid 1
[17:03] <eagles0513875> cemc: dont have anyone to test for me
[17:03] <giovani> you can either try a new install (verify the md5 of the iso before burning, verify the burn after burning, and then do a media check)
[17:04] <eagles0513875> this desktop doesnt have speakers cemc im streaming form my laptop
[17:04] <cemc> eagles0513875: what's the url ?
[17:04] <eagles0513875> cemc: http://ecs.is-a-geek.com:60100/listen.pls
[17:04] <wesouler> i think there is a bug with the Raid.
[17:04] <eagles0513875> the issue is with windows media player bitching about a codec thats missing
[17:04] <giovani> wesouler: if it's hardware raid, that's not likely
[17:05] <cemc> eagles0513875: not working for me either, I'm on linux, with xmms
[17:05] <wesouler> I google someone got same problem.
[17:05] <giovani> wesouler: then why come here? if there's a problem with the raid, it's not related to ubuntu
[17:05] <cemc> eagles0513875: unknown ASF streaming type, this is what mplayer says
[17:06] <eagles0513875> its an mp3 stream
[17:06] <cemc> you said it was mp3
[17:06] <eagles0513875> streaming through shoutcast
[17:06] <cemc> well, it doesn't seem to be mp3 :)
[17:06] <eagles0513875> O_o
[17:06] <wesouler> I doubt ubuntu 8.10 may not support IBM Xserials Raid control device....
[17:06] <cemc> if it's not working with mplayer, it's won't work with anything :-)
[17:06] <cemc> hehe
[17:06] <eagles0513875> cemc try vlc
[17:06] <eagles0513875> ull see it says mp3
[17:07] <giovani> wesouler: hardware raid doesn't require software drivers to function
[17:07] <cemc> I have a shoutcast server myself, I'm relaying a 128kbps mp3 stream, and it's working on all these players
[17:07] <eagles0513875> in another channel it said mplayer said the stream siad libmod
[17:07] <eagles0513875> wtf
[17:07] <eagles0513875> then maybe u can help me iron out the kinks
[17:07] <cemc> not sure, I'm only relaying what's coming in
[17:08] <eagles0513875> cemc: how did u manage to get it working with media player
[17:08] <eagles0513875> ur shoutcast server to work with media player
[17:08] <wesouler> giovani，Can i use rescue disk to fix the grub's  problem?
[17:08] <giovani> wesouler: you can ... if it isn in fact grub's problem
[17:09] <cemc> eagles0513875: never tried with media player, winamp, xmms, and mplayer
[17:09] <eagles0513875> are u on a windows machine by any chance cemc
[17:09] <eagles0513875> no im using vmware workstation on vista 64bit
[17:09] <eagles0513875> and server is 64bit
[17:09] <eagles0513875> ubuntu server
[17:10] <cemc> installed vlc, and not working with it either, it wants to connect to `http://ecs.is-a-geek.com:60100/'
[17:11] <eagles0513875> http://ecs.is-a-geek.com:60100/listen.pls that is the link
[17:11] <eagles0513875> its working in vlc and im on windows with the /listen.pls
[17:11] <eagles0513875> with out liste.pls its just the link to the stats site
[17:11] <giovani> eagles0513875: you must not know what a pls is
[17:11] <giovani> a pls is just a file that tells the player where the stream is
[17:11] <giovani> your pls points to http://ecs.is-a-geek.com:60100/
[17:11] <giovani> so that better be the server
[17:12] <wesouler> giovani: thanks ,I think i must find out what's happen, there is no error or warning, i
[17:12] <wesouler> It's too hard to a newbee
[17:12] <wesouler> :)
[17:13] <eagles0513875> giovani: playlist
[17:13] <eagles0513875> giovani: its for linux only
[17:13] <eagles0513875> ohhhhh shit
[17:13] <eagles0513875> nm
[17:13] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:13] <giovani> eagles0513875: first of all ... this is not related to #ubuntu-server as far as I can tell
[17:13] <giovani> so ... I suggest you take this to where it's appropriate
[17:14] <eagles0513875> giovani: im hosting it on ubuntu server just it digressed ill be good now
[17:14] <giovani> that doesn't mean it's related to ubuntu server
[17:14] <giovani> you run adobe acrobat on windows, but you don't go to microsoft for help when something goes wrong, right?
[17:15] <eagles0513875> ya
[17:15] <giovani> so unless this is an error with something ubuntu-specific (which I highly doubt it is) -- you either need to go to the support channel for the software you're running, or figure it out on your own
[17:25] <VolVE> hey all, I have 8.10 server running happily but I want to use some X apps, so I have Xming on my Windows box and it runs individual X apps from the server just fine, but is there any way to get a full desktop running via Xming?
[17:31] <giovani> VolVE: it should be capable of it, yes
[17:31] <giovani> but the specifics of how you do it are probably in its documentation
[17:32] <VolVE> to which "it" are you referring? that's the part I'm not sure of :)
[17:33] <VolVE> sorry perhaps I've confused the issue
[17:33] <VolVE> I am not clear what packages I should install on the server and then run to instantiate a desktop :)
[17:53] <roy_hobbs> Does anyone know why the LDAP+Kerberos section was removed from the latest Ubuntu Server Guide?
[17:53] <chrisadams> when you have a terminal responding really sluggishly, what's the best way to diagnose the problem?
[17:53] <chrisadams> via ssh
[17:54] <chrisadams> I'm ssh'ing into a virtual server, and it's slower than it normally is
[17:54] <chrisadams> cpu is barely being used
[17:54] <cemc> chrisadams: maybe network congestion ?
[17:55] <cemc> stuff being uploaded from the server
[17:55] <chrisadams> on a 128mb vm, I've got 8mb of free memory
[17:55] <cemc> it's slow when you're typing, or it's slow when running some command?
[17:56] <chrisadams> slow when typing
[17:57] <cemc> probably network problems
[17:57] <cemc> full bandwidth or something like that
[17:59] <giovani> chrisadams: how did you determine cpu usage?
[17:59] <giovani> run vmstat 5 5
[17:59] <giovani> and paste the output somewhere
[17:59] <giovani> but yes, could also be network congestion
[17:59] <JanC> or slow network virtualisation
[18:00] <chrisadams> giovani: voila - http://gist.github.com/75850
[18:01] <chrisadams> I'm afriad I don't fully undertstanf that output
[18:01] <giovani> alright
[18:01] <giovani> yep, either a virtualization issue, or a network congestion issue
[18:01] <giovani> who's your VPS provider?
[18:05] <chrisadams> memset
[18:05] <chrisadams> memset.com
[18:05] <chrisadams> they're based in the UK
[18:06] <chrisadams> i suspect it might be some torrenting on this local wifi network...
[18:06] <chrisadams> thanks for your help anyway
[18:06] <giovani> haha
[18:07] <shadowhand> hello
[18:07] <shadowhand> can anyone point me to a guide on how to compile my own PHP for Ubuntu?
[18:08] <baldaris> i am a newbi..create a new file , upload it in /var/www ie index.php
[18:08] <baldaris> and check it in browser if it works..
[18:09] <shadowhand> erm
[18:09] <shadowhand> i said "compile php"
[18:09] <shadowhand> not "use php"
[18:09] <shadowhand> i am perfectly aware of how LAMP works on Ubuntu, thanks
[18:09] <baldaris> ooh okay
[18:09] <chrisadams> shadowhand:  - this any good? http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/12/11/ubuntu-intrepid-installing-apache-and-php5
[18:10] <shadowhand> chrisadams: nope
[18:10] <shadowhand> i need to _compile_ PHP, not install it
[18:11] <shadowhand> i can certainly do the config/make/make install process, but i would rather compile a proper .deb file
[18:18] <JanC> ah, but packaging is not (only) compiling  ;)
[18:19] <domas> shadowhand: 'apt-get source php', then use debuild or whatever was the command
[18:19] <JanC> shadowhand: if you just want it to be easy to install & uninstall, you could use 'checkinstall' as the quick & dirty solution
[18:20] <shadowhand> thanks JanC, domas
[18:20] <shadowhand> btw, are you aware that PHP is broken when using custom session handlers?
[18:20] <shadowhand> kirkland: ping?
[18:20] <domas> "PHP is broken" should be enough
[18:21] <domas> shadowhand: though we're using custom session handlers ;-)
[18:21] <shadowhand> custom, at what level?
[18:22] <shadowhand> in particular, KohanaPHP sessions are 100% broken
[18:22] <domas> we provide our php code to handle sessions
[18:22] <shadowhand> what do you mean? and who is "we"?
[18:23] <domas> the site I and few other people run :)
[18:23] <shadowhand> well, i am not sure what the deal is
[18:23] <shadowhand> i just discovered the problem
[18:23] <shadowhand> but the session is being re-created every load
[18:24] <shadowhand> so nothing is being properly persistent
[18:24] <domas> shadowhand: is this what you're talking about: http://forum.kohanaphp.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=2176&Focus=15489#Comment_15489 ? :)
[18:25] <shadowhand> domas: 100% sure that is not it
[18:25] <shadowhand> i am using native sessions already
[18:25] <domas> ok :)
[18:25] <domas> just first glance
[18:25] <shadowhand> i think it is actually http://forum.kohanaphp.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1933
[18:25] <shadowhand> but can't be sure
[18:26] <domas> simple race condition? :)
[18:26] <shadowhand> nah
[18:27] <shadowhand> even if i just do: $session = Session::instance(); and nothing else on the page, my session_id() changes every single page
[18:27] <shadowhand> and all session data disappears
[18:54] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone provide advice on the best method to send mails out please ?
[18:55] <JessicaParker> nearly there on the server set up but don't really know how to get emails sent out - i.e. should i install a mail server ?
[18:56] <giovani> JessicaParker: send mail from where? from mail clients not on the server, or from a website hosted on the server?
[18:57] <JessicaParker> website hosted on the server
[18:57] <JessicaParker> i was looking at using gmail but it looks like need to configure ssl
[18:57] <JessicaParker> are there any other options available ?
[18:57] <JessicaParker> drupal to be specific
[18:58] <giovani> you can either use an SMTP server from your ISP, or a provider, such as gmail, or you can run your own
[18:58] <giovani> running your own mail server isn't simple ... so I wouldn't advise it if you haven't done it before
[18:58] <JessicaParker> own isp wont allow it as it is a dedicated server that im getting
[18:58] <giovani> ok, well there are other mail providers
[18:58] <giovani> gmail isn't the only one
[18:58] <JessicaParker> gmail does not seem to allow it as it requires a secure connection
[18:59] <JessicaParker> do the other providers steal the email address and use them for spam ?
[18:59] <giovani> ... uh, what?
[18:59] <JessicaParker> i was looking at the commercial smtp services but was worried about security
[19:00] <giovani> you can't be that worried about security if you don't want to use an encrypted smtp connection
[19:01] <JessicaParker> so basically if i want it secure i need to ssl on the server
[19:05] <storrgie> quick question, I originally set up my database and was using it through an ssh tunnel 'ssh -p 4252 -X -L 3306:<IP_ADDRESS>:3306<EMAIL_ADDRESS>however I think that I messed with the root account because now I cannot access the database using this method with mysql administrator
[19:06] <giovani> storrgie: ok? and?
[19:06] <storrgie> giovani: what should i check? to fix this thing
[19:06] <storrgie> i know you set up different locations for a user
[19:06] <storrgie> % is wildcard
[19:06] <giovani> storrgie: #mysql
[19:06] <storrgie> giovani: asked it there... not too many people are working in there now
[19:07] <giovani> fewer here
[19:07] <storrgie> giovani: well if u dont have an idea thats fine, i was just putting it out there
[19:07] <giovani> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[19:07] <giovani> it's all in the manual
[19:08] <storrgie> its not the password, its the login type i think
[19:08] <storrgie> i can ssh to the box and login through terminal access
[19:08] <giovani> what do you mean login type?
[19:08] <storrgie> um...
[19:08] <storrgie> you can specify where the user can login from
[19:08] <giovani> yes
[19:08] <giovani> so?
[19:08] <storrgie> like <IP_ADDRESS>, or localhost
[19:08] <giovani> that's also in the manual
[19:08] <storrgie> i might have deleted <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:09] <giovani> you can check the logs
[19:09] <giovani> to see that that's the problem, first
[19:09] <giovani> if it is
[19:09] <giovani> read the manual, it's addressed there
[19:16] <storrgie> giovani: i think its something else, the mysql.users table is intact
[19:16] <giovani> then #mysql is where you need to go to get support
[19:18] <storrgie> giovani: chill bud, the issue is regarding my hosts.allow file
[19:18] <storrgie> thats clearly a ubuntu-server question
[19:18] <giovani> what's in your hosts.allow file?
[19:19] <storrgie> well... mysqld was not in there
[19:19] <giovani> why would it need to be?
[19:19] <storrgie> this database should only be accessable by inside users,
[19:19] <storrgie> it would need to be because my hosts.deny is set to ALL:ALL
[19:20] <giovani> ok ... well then you need to allow mysql
[19:21] <storrgie> well my question is, does this mean the mysql server is accessable now from the outside world? none of the users can login from % so it should be ok... but i dont know what kind of other exploits exist for mysql
[19:22] <giovani> setting ALL:ALL denies access to all services on all systems
[19:22] <giovani> as the wording implies
[19:22] <giovani> so you'll need to explicitly allow access to those you want
[19:23] <storrgie> giovani: then maybe i should be reading about iptables instead of using the hosts file?
[19:23] <giovani> I'd think so ...
[19:30] <shadowhand> domas: fyi, found the error
[19:30] <shadowhand> it had nothing to do with Ubuntu, naturally
[19:30] <shadowhand> just a stupid configuration setting that was preventing cookies from being set
[22:05] <storrgie> when apache starts it says its going to use <IP_ADDRESS>.... where do I specify my IP in here?
[22:06] <genii> storrgie: in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[22:06] <genii> eg:  <IP_ADDRESS>:80       or so
[22:06] <hads> Or in virtual hosts
[22:07] <storrgie> i have the virtual hosts set up
[22:07] <storrgie> u mean the default one?
[22:41] <pjsturgeon> I have 4 shares all using the same global settings. 1 share is just a folder, 3 of the shares are symlinks to files on a second harddrive. the normal folder allows read/write fine BUT the symlinks will not allow write
[22:43] <pjsturgeon> nobody? the permissions are all the same, cant think what could cause an "access denied" message
[22:44] <pjsturgeon> i have made a new user called "samba" and added it to the smbusers text file. I gave it a password with smbpasswd -a. I can write to some shares, but not others
[22:46] <genii> Perhaps the files have different owners other than the user "samba"
[22:46] <pjsturgeon> the samba user is set on the admin list, so it should write as root. all files are set as root, both the ones currently there and the ones i add to the working share
[22:47] <pjsturgeon> my config http://pastie.org/411178
[22:49] <genii> If the samba user is an admin in the samba subsystem, it does not equivelate to being in the admin goup on the local box
[22:49] <pjsturgeon> samba is a user on my ubuntu box. it is set as an admin using only the smb.conf line "admin users = samba"
[22:50] <pjsturgeon> i am trying to access from my macbook using that login
[22:53] <genii> Perhaps set a specific write list for one of the problemmatic shares which has that username
[22:53] <pjsturgeon> the 4 shares are just comment and path
[22:56] <genii> pjsturgeon: Did you do: smbpasswd -e samba            to enable the name , after you added (-a) it?
[22:57] <pjsturgeon> i didnt :)
[22:58] <genii> pjsturgeon: So maybe it's falling back to the "bad name" account or so
[22:58] <pjsturgeon> hmm it didnt seem to help
[22:58] <genii> pjsturgeon: Did you restart samba after you added the user?
[22:58] <genii> (added/enabled)
[22:59] <pjsturgeon> i have just enabled the alreadt added users, restarted samba, disconnected my current session and reconnected again
[22:59] <pjsturgeon> same effect
[23:01] <pjsturgeon> do you not find it odd the symlinks wont work and the normal folder share works fine? Not sure what tests to run to find out the differences
[23:01] <pjsturgeon> run a few ls -lah and it all looks the same
[23:03] <genii> I had actually a similar issue before with samba/macos but cannot recal the fix right now :(
[23:04] <pjsturgeon> http://pastie.org/411191
[23:06] <genii> pjsturgeon: Hm. Who are the native owners of the dirs in /media/second-drive/music
[23:07] <genii> /media/second-drive/<wherever>    rather
[23:07] <pjsturgeon> it is all root
[23:07] <genii> (before symlinks)
[23:07] <pjsturgeon> ahh
[23:08] <pjsturgeon> hmm they are too root
[23:09] <pjsturgeon> ran ls -lah /media/second-drive and all is root drwxrwxrwx
[23:11] <genii> Since even system users require to use something like sudo or su before they can modify areas owned by root, I'm suspecting this is perhaps your issue.
[23:11] <genii> Bah, left already
[23:11] <pjsturgeon> i pointed samba straight at /media/second-drive/video and rebooted, no better
[23:12] <pjsturgeon> restarted samba i mean sorry
[23:12] <genii> Since even system users require to use something like sudo or su before they can modify areas owned by root, I'm suspecting this is perhaps your issue.
[23:12] <genii> If the areas were owned by admin for instance, no additional auth would be needed
[23:13] <pjsturgeon> should everything be set to user samba?
[23:13] <genii> pjsturgeon: That would be the simplest way
[23:13] <pjsturgeon> take admin list out and put in "force user = samba"?
[23:15] <genii> pjsturgeon: The files/dirs themselves... if feasible should be in a user/group which the samba login name can natively write to normally if you just logged onto the local box with that name.
[23:16] <genii> pjsturgeon: Otherwise, to map the samba user to whichever user does have proper rights there
[23:16] <pjsturgeon> ok. i set the files/folders within the symlinks but the symlinks themselves wont let me chown
[23:16] <genii> Thats normal
[23:16] <pjsturgeon> ok
[23:17] <pjsturgeon> will i need to change my config now to use force user/group?
[23:17] <pjsturgeon> i will only ever have this one login for samba
[23:17] <genii> You chowned to username "samba" ?
[23:17] <pjsturgeon> yes on all the files/folders within the symlinks
[23:18] <pjsturgeon> i guess no force user is needed if im logged in as that user
[23:18] <genii> Then no need to force
[23:18] <genii> Yes, exactly
[23:18] <pjsturgeon> bah! no changwe
[23:18] <pjsturgeon> restarted samba, still no write access
[23:19] <genii> pjsturgeon: The mac box may need to have it's network info refreshed also, it does cache the known states, etc
[23:19] <pjsturgeon> hmm, how to do that? dnsflush?
[23:20] <genii> Not sure on a mac, I don't work with them enough
[23:20] <pjsturgeon> will restart, brb
[23:22] <pjsturgeon> no luck
[23:22] <pjsturgeon> not sure where the logs are for this, or how to enable them. how to find out what the access denied is being caused by?
[23:23] <genii> The samba log should be somewhere like /var/log/samba    or so. Also if an auth issue check those
[23:24] <pjsturgeon> one thing, i am not 100% but i seem to remember this working earlier today (letting me write to the symlinked folders etc). I then faffed about by removing samba user and trying to add it again as a passwordless user on the ubuntu box. it then wasnt working so put it as a user with the same password
[23:24] <pjsturgeon> think any confusion could have been caused there? as i said i can write to some folders so think i got it back to original state ok
[23:25] <pjsturgeon> which log file? got a few and none have any useful content
[23:26] <pjsturgeon> tail -f ing the log.mylaptop file shows nothing when i attempt to write
[23:26] <genii> pjsturgeon: /var/log/auth.log  has samba/regular logins info etc
[23:28] <pjsturgeon> http://pastie.org/411223
[23:28] <pjsturgeon> nothing nticeable
[23:30] <genii> pjsturgeon: I'm outta immediate ideas. Other than maybe wipe the symlinks, login on the box as the user, make the symlinks new so they have that user as their owner
[23:30] <pjsturgeon> yea might be an idea
[23:31] <pjsturgeon> wouldnt i need to sudo to do that anyway? so they;d still be root
[23:32] <pjsturgeon> samba is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. :-/
[23:38] <pjsturgeon> aha! the files within the symlinks are not actually chowned
[23:38] <genii> You don't need sudo to make symlinks to dirs not owned by you...just that when you try to ls/write there etc no-go
[23:39] <pjsturgeon> i am trying sudo chown samba.samba -R . and it will not let me :S
[23:40] <pjsturgeon> if i can sudo the content then make  the symlinks as you suggest i bet it will work, but i cant change the ownership of these files
[23:42] <genii> should be samba:samba  and not samba.samba
[23:42] <pjsturgeon> still doesnt work (i have done it that way before)
[23:42] <pjsturgeon> i read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470355
[23:42] <pjsturgeon> perhaps my disk is mounted badly?
[23:43] <pjsturgeon> i use the line... /dev/sda1       /media/second-drive vfat user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[23:44] <genii> unix permissions do not work on fat/vfat/ntfs
[23:44] <pjsturgeon> >.<
[23:44] <genii> So yes, I'd suggest to look at that
[23:45] <pjsturgeon> this is my problem? using FAT32 disk... i guess it no longer matters the format if i am using samba? I had to have the fat 32 before as it was plugged directly into my xbox. now content is streamed
[23:45] <pjsturgeon> ok, i will reformat the damn thing somehow
[23:45] <pjsturgeon> anyone know of an easy way to reformat vfat to a more samba friendly format without wiping content? :-(
[23:50] <genii> The simplest thing is just copy off all the files somewhere, format, copy back. But failing that, if less than 50% used, you can resize to 50/50 with one vfta, one ext then copy from the vfat to the ext, then expand the ext to entire drive
[23:51] <pjsturgeon> if only, its a 500gb hdd
[23:53] <pjsturgeon> never mind. cheers guys!