[09:30] <Skuggen> mdeslaur: Realize I forgot to respond about the mysqldump issue, sorry. We are acknowledging it as a bug and working on it, yeah
[11:41] <cjwatson> We're switching merges.ubuntu.com over to a new deployment.  This should be basically transparent, but the new deployment is bionic rather than precise (!) so please let me know if you spot any oddities
[11:42] <cjwatson> (And obviously I'd like to get past bionic, but upgrading by two LTSes in one go was enough for me)
[12:09] <mdeslaur> Skuggen: thanks for the update!
[12:37] <Elliria> Hey there. Is there a current replacement for the http://packages.ubuntu.com/python-gobject package?
[12:42] <cjwatson> Elliria: Nowadays (as in, for the last decade or so) python3-gi plus appropriate gir* packages is the way to go - https://pygobject.readthedocs.io/en/latest/guide/porting.html may be helpful
[12:47] <Elliria> Thank you very much, cjwatson!
[12:47] <cjwatson> np
[12:48] <Elliria> I've been banging my head against this for a while.
[13:32] <adrien> I'm on +1 for Foundations and so far I've looked at python3-cssutils (ftbfs due to version being from 2017, commented on debian's BTS and LP bugs already opened), crystal (build-depends on itself, CI on salsa is broken due to that, LP #1998701 already opened but not visible on update_excuses), bettercap-caplets (depends on bettercap-ui which is not packaged and I saw no sign of it getting packaged)
[13:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1998701 in crystal (Ubuntu) "FTBFS: circular dependency needs bootstrapping" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998701
[13:47] <adrien> and next one I'm going to look at is ocaml-odoc*
[14:20] <enr0n> utkarsh2102: just seeing all this now, but thank you for sponsoring
[15:16] <nteodosi> Can I have these autopkgtests triggered, please? https://termbin.com/dtuqu
[15:17] <slyon> nteodosi: "You submitted an invalid request: chromium-browser/110.0.5481.77-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is not published in PPA canonical-chromium-builds/stage bionic"
[15:18] <slyon> maybe the publisher did not yet run on the PPA?
[15:18] <nteodosi> Hmm I think it was written off once I submitted a new version number?
[15:18] <nteodosi> So I'll wait until it finishes building. Thanks anyway slyon.
[15:20] <slyon> nteodosi: yeah you need to wait for it to finish building and all binary packages to be published (which is usually approx ~1h after finishing the build). Please re-ask for test triggers once all of that is done.
[16:13] <nteodosio> slyon, I was not clear. 110.0.5481.77-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> had already built, but thereafter submitted 18.04.2, which is still building. I thought I could run tests against the former.
[16:14] <slyon> oh I see. IIRC the src package publisher ran just a few minutes before I tried to click your links. So that might have overriden the former package version
[16:15] <nteodosio> Yeah
[16:17] <slyon> src pkg is usually published earlier, but only after src+binaries are published we can run the autopkgtest
[16:27] <vorlon> bluesabre: is on my list, I'll try to get to it early this week
[20:29] <liushuyu> Hi there, can someone help me add a distro release tracking table for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/+bug/2005122 ? I need to track release for LL KK JJ FF and BB
[20:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2005122 in rustc (Ubuntu) "Upgrade Rust to 1.66.1" [Undecided, In Progress]
[20:32] <utkarsh2102> enr0n: no problem, thanks for your work ;)
[20:32] <liushuyu> And also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cargo/+bug/2005123. Release for LL KK JJ FF and BB as well
[20:32] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2005123 in cargo (Ubuntu) "Upgrade Cargo to 0.67.1" [Undecided, New]
[20:38] <liushuyu> ... and I probably need to check with the Security Team to see if they are comfortable with pulling LLVM 15 into security pocket with older releases
[21:17] <vorlon> liushuyu: as it's a new package that does not take over any existing packages from the release pocket it should be uncontroversial; but you still need to check with them to make it actually happen :)
[21:18] <liushuyu> vorlon: Thank you! Will do in the #ubuntu-security channel
[22:27] <nteodosio> Can I get these autopkgtests triggered please? https://termbin.com/ym0lc


[00:38] <michael_e_brown_> evand, any way to preseed it to tell it to configure grub but not install it anywhere, then we can just install it ourselves?


[17:49] <owen1> bekks: i am still not sure why the 'implicit shell' is an issue
[17:50] <owen1> so far i did stuff with sudo su with no issues.
[17:50] <owen1> unless there are security concerns i should be aware of
[17:50] <bekks> owen1: generally you just want to use "sudo".
[17:50] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to configure an usb wifi transciever?
[17:51] <kokut> transceiver*
[17:51] <bekks> owen1: sudo su starts a su as root to give you a root shell. Same thing as just running sudo -i, or even shorter, sudo yourcommand, to execute yourcommand as root.
[17:52] <owen1> bekks: got it
[17:52] <OerHeks> kokut, plug it in and see if it showes up in networkmanager, if not, open the restricted drivers tool to see if a driver shows up, that can take a minute.
[17:53] <kokut> OerHeks: what do you mean restricted drivers?
[17:53] <teward> kokut: drivers taht aren't open source
[17:54] <teward> kokut: such as broadcom drivers and such
[17:54] <teward> proprietary drivers, even.
[17:55] <kokut> teward: it came with a mini cd and it says it supports linux
[17:55] <OerHeks> type driver in dash
[17:55] <kokut> whut
[17:56] <teward> kokut: use the driver tool first, before using the minicd
[17:56] <teward> follow OerHeks' suggestion
[17:56] <Eddi> hi
[17:56] <teward> (those minicds are usually for Windows not *nix)
[17:56] <kokut> i went to software and updates > additional drivers and nothing pops up
[17:58] <Eddi> hi
[17:58] <OerHeks> kokut, then use lsusb to find your wifi device, and do some research
[17:58] <kokut> it has a linux folder
[17:58] <kokut> the mini cd
[17:58] <kokut> :O
[17:59] <punjabidon> suspend not working
[17:59] <punjabidon> anyone have any idea?
[17:59] <punjabidon> currently running noeveau graphic drivers
[18:00] <kokut> lol wtf? i can't open the linux file it says file type not supported
[18:00] <Eddi> I use Ubuntu 14.04 server edition and it constantly fails to define my remouvable usb-disk. why does it happen?
[18:00] <cattata1056> what extension is it?
[18:00] <kokut> oh well it also has a bz2 file
[18:00] <cattata1056> pack it and install
[18:01] <Finetundra> hello everyone, does anyone know why clementine would suddenly stop responding to media keys?
[18:03] <punjabidon> a
[18:03] <kilde> Please Help. Using 14.04, Eth0 will not connect, I have to connect via USB tethered through my phone and even then my ubuntu disconnects and reconnects me. This is not a router problem as this also happens when my phone is on 4g.
[18:04] <Chocolateraineu> Good afternoon, I'm having some issues with graphic driver. Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV350 [Radeon 9550] X.Org: 1.16.0 drivers: ati,vesa,radeon FAILED: fbdev Resolution<EMAIL_ADDRESS>GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits) GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
[18:05] <Chocolateraineu> Can't change resolution or refresh rate and screen can go yellow from time to time
[18:05] <Eddi> Where did you get driver?
[18:05] <Eddi> do you use amdconfig?
[18:05] <Chocolateraineu> Just installed Xubuntu 14.04 and updated it
[18:06] <punjabidon> suspend not working
[18:06] <punjabidon> anyone have any idea?
[18:06] <punjabidon> currently running noeveau graphic drivers
[18:06] <Eddi> you should download driver suitable to your card from the official site and install it.
[18:06] <Chocolateraineu> it's quite an old card, does amdconfig supports old ones?
[18:06] <bekks> !ati | Chocolateraineu
[18:07] <Chocolateraineu> Weird, this card usually worked OOTB on all distros. O.o
[18:07] <bekks> Chocolateraineu: And now it doesnt. So you have to read the link given ;)
[18:08] <_Rarity> Hello. Is it possible to prevent a kernel module from updating on apt-get upgrade?
[18:09] <bekks> _Rarity: you can pin it, but that will break if you are updating the kernel.
[18:09] <bekks> _Rarity: Which module on which kernel on which Ubuntu? :)
[18:09] <kokut> so i just sudo make in the folder with the MakeFile and now what?
[18:11] <_Rarity> bekks: The hid_apple module on Ubuntu 14.04, kernel: 3.13.0-52 generic. The module is only slightly changes, so it should work on almost all kernels
[18:12] <Phosis> When bash scripting is there a system call where, upon loading up the program in the script, the script running in the background ends and the user is brought back to to a command prompt?
[18:12] <_Rarity> bekks: It is just slightly annoying to have to load it every time I upgrade the kernel. (I know, it is a first world problem :P ...)
[18:12] <Phosis> I have a script that is a menu option for running a game. But when I exit the game, I want the script to stop running.
[18:13] <bekks> _Rarity: It will not work on other kernels, since the version of the kernel changes.  Bye peeps
[18:13] <cattata1056> kill the process Phosis
[18:13] <Phosis> but if I kill the process in the script, won't the game immediately close also?
[18:13] <SchrodingersScat> Phosis: break could work if it's in a loop, can also try exit
[18:13] <bekks> Chocolateraineu: Reinstalling will not fix it.
[18:13] <bekks> Chocolateraineu: Reading how to fix it will.
[18:14] <Phosis> BREAK!
[18:14] <Phosis> Break worked
[18:14] <Chocolateraineu> bekks: Let's agree to disagree
[18:14] <Phosis> thank you!
[18:14] <SchrodingersScat> Phosis: welcome, have fun
[18:14] <punjabidon> suspend not working
[18:14] <punjabidon> anyone have any ideas?
[18:14] <_Rarity> bekks: Oh. I figured the module would work on different versions of the kernel, since it is a keyboard module that has (almost) nothing to do with the kernel itself
[18:14] <_Rarity> bekks: Thanks anyways
[18:14] <bekks> Chocolateraineu: I'm agreeing to just ignore your future issues with that install :)
[18:15] <bekks> _Rarity: technically, nothing changes in the module. But the version of the kernel it is linked again changes, so you have to reinstall it every time.
[18:18] <sp1rs> hello
[18:18] <sp1rs> I have dev space of 53GB and i want this space to add to my home .. can this is possible ??
[18:18] <Eddi> quite possible
[18:19] <sp1rs> how ?
[18:19] <MrElendig> sp1rs: is it located right after your /home partition?
[18:19] <OerHeks> boot a live iso, and use gparted :-)
[18:20] <sp1rs> MrElendig: OerHeks my df -h output http://pastebin.com/2mYLXn00
[18:20] <MrElendig> I don't do pastebin.com
[18:20] <MrElendig> also f/gdisk would be more useful
[18:20] <sp1rs> mount dev/sda7 with dev/sda6 .. sda7 is my home
[18:20] <OerHeks> what is the output of fdisk -l ? paste.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <OerHeks> if it borders it should be easy
[18:21] <sp1rs> ya it is border
[18:21] <ablest1980> hello
[18:21] <sp1rs> OerHeks: fdisk -l no output
[18:22] <ablest1980> how do improve my wireless connection connectivity
[18:22] <ablest1980> i
[18:23] <ablest1980> i only get 1 led out of 5 and it keeps disconnecting
[18:23] <ablest1980> or resetting
[18:23] <bazhang> ask about extenders in ##networking ablest1980
[18:23] <ablest1980> ok
[18:23] <ablest1980> thanks
[18:24] <Nubuntoo> If you have 5ghz devices, setting your WiFi thing to 5ghz if it supports it can also help if the problem is interference
[18:25] <ReGiStRaS> whats the replacement for portmap ?
[18:26] <ReGiStRaS> whats the replacement for portmap ?
[18:26] <_xer0> I have the same issue as ablest1980 I swap on and off from the 5ghz as I seem to drop connection alot :/
[18:27] <ReGiStRaS> whats the replacement for portmap ?
[18:27] <abdulmalik> Salam
[18:27] <ReGiStRaS> whats the replacement for portmap ?
[18:27] <_xer0> rpcbind?
[18:28] <ablest1980> :/
[18:29] <ablest1980> im getting help in ##networking xer0
[18:29] <ablest1980> come join
[18:29] <_xer0> I might join you xD
[18:29] <ablest1980> XD
[18:30] <abdulmalik> hi there
[18:30] <abdulmalik> are these all chatbots?
[18:30] <bazhang> no
[18:30] <abdulmalik> any  real person here?
[18:30] <wesley9946> yes they are
[18:30] <bazhang> abdulmalik, what is your ubuntu issue
[18:31] <teward> abdulmalik: what's your ubuntu issue?
[18:31] <bubben> ..
[18:31]  * wesley9946 asks the same as teward
[18:31] <feneco_> whats the lightest ubuntu variant at the moment?
[18:31] <wesley9946> lubuntu
[18:31] <teward> feneco_: Lubuntu, probably
[18:31] <abdulmalik> none
[18:32] <wesley9946> http://lubuntu.net/
[18:32] <android_> Algum brasileiro ai
[18:32] <teward> abdulmalik: if you do not have an Ubuntu question, then offtopic questions and discussion should take place in #ubuntu-offtopic or a general chat channel, not #ubuntu
[18:32] <abdulmalik> @bazhang non
[18:32] <wesley9946> @feneco_: about what computer config should we talk about?
[18:32] <android_> algum brasileiro ai
[18:32] <kostkon> !pt | android_
[18:33] <abdulmalik> anyone know how to tunnel connections through dns servers like yourfreedom?
[18:33] <wesley9946> @feneco_: what is the amount of RAM, what is the processor speed?
[18:34] <SchrodingersScat> !info iodine | abdulmalik
[18:34] <teward> feneco_: Lubuntu is the lighest, but depending on your RAM, processor speed, etc. you may want to use something less lightweight.
[18:34] <docmur_> I'm running a ubuntu server and run I tiger I get an alert about a rootkit,  so I ran chkrootkit and I got: Checking `bindshell'...                                     INFECTED (PORTS:  465), This is a mail port, so should I take action or leave it?
[18:35] <teward> docmur_: chkrootkit is just a tool, it will say 'infected' but it's up to you to determine what's abnormal for your setup
[18:35] <telmac> if I install to a flash drive using the gui boot disk tool, can I then boot from that in order to reinstall?
[18:35] <owen1> usb3 port not working. ubuntu 15.04, 3.19.0-16-generic #16-Ubuntu, thinkpad x1 carbon gen2, enabled in the bios.   any ideas?
[18:35] <teward> docmur_: i use rkhunter and it reports port 10022 is open per a signature of a given baddie, but in fact it's my iptables-locked-down ssh port on a system i use
[18:36] <teward> docmur_: so you have to be able to look at the 'tools' and determine what is abnormal for the system
[18:36] <docmur_> fair enough
[18:36] <telmac> can the same tool be used to install ubuntu normally to a HDD?
[18:36] <docmur_> just checking
[18:36] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! Trying to get my fstab to work right, and am super unfamiliar with the options. I have a vfat partition that is being mounted, and plex won't read. What I would like to do is mount it to a specific user (me) instead of root (as is the case for the "defaults" option in fstab). Any suggestions or pointers?
[18:37] <teward> econdudeawesome: paste the fstab if you wouldn't mind to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <markiv`> When I hold alt in gnome 3, it shows the window changer popup. This is before I hit any other keys. This means I have to hit alt and f at almost the exact same time if I want to select an apps *F*ile menu bar via keyboard. I want to disable this "hold alt to show window changer" feature.
[18:37] <teward> econdudeawesome: iirc the vfat mount line can have additional options for uid,gid which you can set
[18:37] <teward> econdudeawesome: but i have to doublecheck the mount manpage
[18:37] <ax562> how can I reset or replace all video related functions in ubuntu 12.05 lts 64bit?
[18:37] <Lemonade1947> Hey guys, when apt-get updating, I get a whole lot of "Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/..." and I have no idea why.
[18:38] <teward> econdudeawesome: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/vfat.txt  <-- relevant
[18:38] <econdudeawesome> teward: that's exactly what I'm looking for I think. I can't seem to parse the unhelpful forum spam on the topic from the actual documentation/articles.
[18:38] <teward> `uid=###,gid=###,mask=###` are all important options for your use case, likely
[18:38] <ax562> I'm running a lappy and was using the vga output to a lcd display and now when not connected to ext display I get black screen
[18:39] <econdudeawesome> best I found was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab, so thanks! Now to figure out how to look up the uid/gid/mask
[18:39] <bazhang> !blkid
[18:39] <econdudeawesome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11191400/ on the last line
[18:40] <ax562> anyone?
[18:40] <econdudeawesome> bazhang: thanks, I have hte UUIDs, was looking for UID/GID
[18:40] <bazhang> patience ax562
[18:40] <OerHeks> ax562, see the FN key + internal/external screen key maybe?
[18:41] <wesley9946> @ax562: is there some Fn key which you can press to toggle between ext/int screen
[18:41] <delt> SOLVED, thanks to the very kind folks in #linux ... now everything works perfectly!
[18:41] <swiftynb> is there a reason that this would not work?     exec /home/ubuntu/test/mybinary
[18:42] <swiftynb> in an upstart script?
[18:42] <sp1rs> partition is like this .... sda7 .. sd6   .. no i have to add sda7 space to sda6 .. how will i do it in gparted ?
[18:42] <swiftynb> ./mybinary runs fine
[18:42] <swiftynb> but when i do upstart it just crashes
[18:42] <feneco_> wesley9946 its for virtualization
[18:42] <ax562> wesley9946 no
[18:42] <telmac> sp1rs: there's a thing to "shrink" a partition
[18:43] <feneco_> i want to know if the difference between something like ubuntu to lubuntu is noticeable
[18:43] <bazhang> very much so feneco_
[18:44] <wesley9946> @ax562: and what if you power cycle the lappy?
[18:44] <sp1rs> telmac: is there any option in gparted ?
[18:44] <sp1rs> i didnt see any
[18:44] <ax562> wesley9946 the problem is nvdia is set to automatically output to ext lcd
[18:45] <Promille> Hey guys. Is there any open source programs for managing(e.g. throttle) bandwith for specific applicatons. Im using 14.04
[18:46] <bazhang> !info wondershaper
[18:46] <bazhang> !info trickle
[18:46] <bazhang> see above Promille
[18:46] <wesley9946> !info wesley9946
[18:47] <wesley9946> !gpu
[18:47] <Promille> thanks bazhang ill check it out
[18:47] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu wesley9946
[18:47] <[twisti]> i get http://pastebin.com/xHm2cfRV, how can i proceed ? i just want to remove the offending packages
[18:47] <[twisti]> LTS 12.04 if that matters
[18:48] <ax562> anyone know how to reset ubuntu video drivers to stock?
[18:48] <Nubuntoo> Ioria fwiw I am giving up on the livecd. It seems I am running into that problem where a mix of ide and sata devices is confusing the boot process. Fsdisk -l lists just my disk drives not the DVD. Blkid does show a sr0 device but I have no idea if that's the DVD drive and how to mount it
[18:49] <jatt> [twisti]: sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[18:49] <xangua> ax562: reset from what? What did you install
[18:50] <jatt> [twisti]: and use aptitude instead of apt-get, apt-get dependency handling is crap
[18:50] <[twisti]> jatt: no change, http://pastebin.com/RFteQ9yH
[18:51] <ax562> xangua I'm trying to use laptop screen but laptop screen will not work because It's set to output to ext driver
[18:51] <jatt> [twisti]: sudo dpkg --purge remove bitlbee
[18:51] <jatt> [twisti]: and install again
[18:51] <[twisti]> twisti@attic ~ $ sudo dpkg --purge remove bitlbee
[18:51] <[twisti]> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching remove
[18:52] <ax562> I believe I changed system file sometime ago to set at boot
[18:52] <[twisti]> bitlbee seems to be gone though, so thanks
[18:53] <jatt> strange maybe that is a very old dpkg version, it works with 15.04
[18:54] <ax562> any ideas #ubuntu?
[18:54] <Borealix>  fuck her right in the pussy
[18:54] <Nubuntoo> It just booted into initramfs from a disk that is now empty :/
[19:01] <shizles> sup
[19:08] <snowly> hello folks
[19:09]  * |nv|s|b|e is now known as
[19:09] <telmac> so if I want to replace unit/compiz with some minimal wm
[19:10] <telmac> without just removing unity in apt
[19:10] <telmac> and booting into a shell
[19:10] <telmac> wat do?
[19:10] <snowly> is there a way to fix the steam tray icon so that it doesn't show previously uninstalled games? even a complete purge/reinstall didn't work, the tray menu is populated with games that are not even installed.
[19:10] <sjmikem> when I see a process has an fd of : socket:[65149], how do I get more info about that socket?  ss -a | grep 65149 does not show anything
[19:11] <Maicros> If I install android studio through umake do I have to wait for canonical to package the updates before I can download it? Excluding re-downloading  the whole application?
[19:12] <markiv`> my god this alt menu is obnoxious, it even interrupts my alt-tabbing unless i press them almost simultaneously
[19:12] <markiv`> satanic
[19:13] <EriC^^> markiv`: you can disable it if you want
[19:13] <markiv`> i want
[19:13] <EriC^^> settings > keyboard > shortcuts
[19:13] <markiv`> but it's not unity, it's gnome 3
[19:15] <John357> hi
[19:16] <John357> hi
[19:16] <John357> anybody?
[19:16] <markiv`> hi
[19:16] <markiv`> irc
[19:17] <telmac> no seriously how do I remove unity
[19:17] <John357> can you explain how this program works?
[19:17] <John357> I do not understand it
[19:17] <John357> unity player?
[19:19] <markiv`> In Gnome, when you hold alt for like 800ms, the window changer pops up, interfering with every alt key shortcut combination. Does anyone know how to disable this insanity?
[19:21] <John357> hi
[19:22] <ablest1980> hello
[19:23] <ablest1980> how do i change my hardware address?
[19:24] <bekks> ablest1980: HArdware address of what, and why?
[19:25] <stacks88> i just ran adduser bob.. then after i ran the command 'groups', and it only says root. but when i do cat /etc/groups|grep bob , i see bob there. Is it normal that when i type groups, i DONT see bob as a listed group?
[19:25] <ablest1980> because it says 45 instead of 43
[19:25] <kokut> anyone knows how to pass internet from one computer to another via ethernet in ubuntu?
[19:25] <bekks> ablest1980: And why is that important?
[19:25] <aeon-ltd> !internetsharing
[19:25] <ablest1980> my connection keeps going out
[19:26] <ablest1980> should my hardware be the same as my mac address?
[19:26] <bekks> ablest1980: And why do you suspect that "45" instead of "43" will change something about that?
[19:26] <bekks> ablest1980: What are you talking about? Please clarify.
[19:26] <aeon-ltd> kokut: some stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing http://askubuntu.com/questions/359856/share-wireless-internet-connection-through-ethernet
[19:26] <kokut> aeon-ltd: yea found that ty
[19:27] <aeon-ltd> no prob
[19:28] <ablest1980> im having wireless connection trouble i notice that my mac address is different from the what my wireless address 43 hardware address still says 45
[19:28] <ablest1980> trouble
[19:29] <ablest1980> my mac address what 45 at the end on the usb wireless stick its 43 on the end
[19:30] <bekks> ablest1980: And why is that of any relevance for anything?
[19:30] <qwyos> cosmic rays
[19:30] <ablest1980> my connection kept going out
[19:30] <bekks> ablest1980: And why do you suspect the mac address to be relevant for that?
[19:31] <ablest1980> it seems to be working now but my hardware address still say 45 at the end
[19:31] <bekks> ablest1980: And why is that of any relevance?
[19:31] <ablest1980> didnt know what was wronf till i  notice the mac on the usb stick was 43 and the setting was 45
[19:32] <bekks> ablest1980: Why do you suspect that messing with the mac address will fix your issue?
[19:32] <ablest1980> because it seems to be working now
[19:33] <ablest1980> but my hardware address till says 45 at the end
[19:33] <bekks> ablest1980: Forget that hardware address and please answer my questions...
[19:33] <aeon-ltd> they are just identifiers, pretty much a name
[19:33] <ablest1980> ask again
[19:33] <bekks> ablest1980: Why do you think that a different address will fix your issues?
[19:33] <ablest1980> yes
[19:33] <ablest1980> its suppose to be 43 not 45
[19:34] <bekks> ablest1980: No.
[19:34] <ablest1980> no why?
[19:34] <bekks> MAC addresses are supposed to be UNIQUE.
[19:34] <bekks> They shall not be identical, ever.
[19:34] <aeon-ltd> did you change it?
[19:34] <ablest1980> mac and hardware is same untill i put mac address 43 instead of 45
[19:35] <ablest1980> ok
[19:35] <bekks> ablest1980: you told that numerous times. It doesnt matter at all.
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> because if you changed it and the router has strict filtering rules it won't let you connect unless you are on it's whitelist
[19:35] <ablest1980> whys it working now?
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> any number of reasons
[19:35] <telmac> ablest1980: does the router have a whitelist?
[19:35] <ablest1980> no router
[19:35] <aeon-ltd> ok....
[19:35] <ablest1980> usb wireless srick from netzero
[19:35] <telmac> uhhhh
[19:35] <ablest1980> stick
[19:36] <telmac> no, what are you connectin to
[19:36] <telmac> where is your connection coming from
[19:36] <ablest1980> the mac on the stick is 43 on the end
[19:36] <bekks> ablest1980: Forget that MAC.
[19:36] <aeon-ltd> are you trolling?
[19:36] <bekks> ablest1980: Stop repeating that please.
[19:36] <ablest1980> but the setting was 45 at the end
[19:36] <telmac> please stop repeating yourself
[19:36] <aeon-ltd> oy oy oy
[19:36] <telmac> where are you connecting to?
[19:37] <telmac> you are connecting to a wireless network, yes?
[19:37] <ablest1980> yes
[19:37] <bekks> That wireless network is connected to a router.
[19:37] <bekks> Most likely, at least.
[19:38] <ablest1980> it connects to netzero
[19:38] <bekks> What is "netzero"?
[19:38] <telmac> ablest1980: is that your isp?
[19:38] <ablest1980> yes
[19:38] <telmac> so, you have a modem
[19:38] <telmac> from this company
[19:38] <telmac> which also provides wireless?
[19:38] <ablest1980> usb wireless stick
[19:38] <telmac> no, see
[19:38] <telmac> the wireless has to come from somewhere
[19:38] <ablest1980> from netzero
[19:39] <telmac> bekks: p(trolling)?
[19:39] <telmac> I think >80
[19:39] <bekks> telmac: Yes.
[19:40] <telmac> bekks: like idk someone could just be really really dense
[19:40] <telmac> but most people who don't know about computers will answer your question or say "I don't know what that means/ I don't have the information to answer"
[19:41] <ablest1980> you know im right
[19:41] <ablest1980> it should be 43
[19:41] <bekks> ablest1980: No, you arent.
[19:42] <telmac> about what?
[19:42] <aeon-ltd> ablest1980: explain why it should be 43
[19:42] <bekks> ablest1980: you dont provide valuable information, even after asking you numerous times. I am resting your case that for.
[19:42] <aeon-ltd> that should clear things up for the people here
[19:42] <ukinami> !pt_pt
[19:42] <ukinami> !pt
[19:45] <Dr-007> my ubuntu seems to get confused what network card it should use to reach the internet
[19:46] <Dr-007> ip route has: default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[19:46] <Dr-007> what else could "screw" it up?
[19:46] <daftykins> Dr-007: is this a desktop install of ubuntu with network manager handling the network connections?
[19:47] <Pricey> What's the difference between nvidia-331 & nvidia-331-updates ?
[19:47] <Dr-007> daftykins, no. its a cli server ubuntu. where i'm editting the /etc/network/interfaces
[19:47] <Dr-007> ive made eth1 "dumb"
[19:47] <Dr-007> by disabling everything
[19:47] <daftykins> can you share your file?
[19:47] <Dr-007> but still. when i try to ping google.com it takes linux a while to figure out which ethernet card it should use
[19:47] <bekks> Pricey: The latter receives updates, the former doesnt.
[19:48] <Dr-007> daftykins, sure. let me upload it somewhere
[19:48] <daftykins> Dr-007: paste.ubuntu.com is ace
[19:48] <Pricey> bekks: Odd, do you know why?
[19:48] <daftykins> Dr-007: you should only have one default gateway so i don't see why it'd take time
[19:49] <d3ad7rack> Dr-007 what's your routing table look like?
[19:49] <bekks> Pricey: The answer to the this askubuntu question explains it in detail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363835/nvidia-304-updates-vs-nvidia-304-and-similar
[19:49] <Pricey> bekks: Fantastic, thanks.
[19:50] <bekks> Pricey: yw
[19:51] <punjabidon> suspend not working
[19:51] <punjabidon> any possible reasons?
[19:51] <Dr-007> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11192646/
[19:52] <Dr-007> ./etc/network/interfaces eth1 is now currently disabled and it still takes a while for the first ping to appear on the screen
[19:52] <telmac> was the feature removed from ubuntu to log into a session of a different WM?
[19:53] <daftykins> Dr-007: your router is seriously .2 ?
[19:53] <daftykins> telmac: no you must not have it installed correctly if it is not presented
[19:53] <telmac> do I need to do more than apt-get install i3?
[19:54] <telmac> (that's my wm)
[19:54] <telmac> I installed totally stock standard ubuntu
[19:54] <daftykins> i don't have a clue about i3.
[19:54] <Dr-007> daftykins, it actually is a virtual machine. but that ip is correct. yes
[19:54] <telmac> well it's unity's problem not i3's
[19:54] <telmac> also btw nouveau keeps crashing when I start ff
[19:54] <daftykins> telmac: no it's likely an issue with you not installing the requisite packages to provide an i3 session
[19:54] <daftykins> which is what lightdm would look at in order to offer the alternative :)
[19:54] <telmac> daftykins: let me present my problem different
[19:55] <telmac> a. fuck compiz
[19:55] <telmac> b. fuck unity
[19:55] <HedgeMage> telmac: if you don't get it solved by the time I'm back from afk, I can go find my ubuntu laptop and help debug (I'm a i3 user)
[19:55] <bekks> c. watch your language.
[19:55] <daftykins> !language | telmac Congratulations you're now getting ignored :)
[19:55] <telmac> c. how can I get ubuntu to boot into a shell and allow me to log in from VT2?
[19:55] <telmac> ?
[19:55] <d3ad7rack> •telmac• recovery mode should allow for that
[19:56] <telmac> I mean, I want that normally
[19:56] <daftykins> Dr-007: what's the tap interface for?
[19:56] <telmac> I had that on debian, boot into a shell and then start x manually
[19:56] <Dr-007> openvpn
[19:57] <daftykins> Dr-007: tried configuring your eth0 statically? seems it'd make sense regardless of how it'd impact the problem
[19:57] <Flannel> telmac: If you're looking for a minimal install, it's usually easier to build up from a command-line only install, rather than peel away all of the extra GUI stuff.  You can use the server CD or the minimal CD to do so.
[19:57] <Dr-007> daftykins, i did not. good one. i will try this
[19:58] <pavlos> telmac, change the /etc/default/grub from quiet splash to text
[19:58] <pavlos> telmac, and update-grub
[19:58] <telmac> Flannel: canonical used to distribute a "mini.iso"
[19:58] <daftykins> still do
[19:58] <daftykins> !mini
[19:58] <telmac> which I looked for but could not find for 15.5
[19:58] <Flannel> telmac: They still do.
[19:58] <telmac> *.4
[19:59] <Flannel> telmac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:59] <telmac> okay well that's much better
[19:59] <telmac> I was looking for like twenty minutes for that and gave up
[20:01] <mebus> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:01] <mebus> Why is this happening?
[20:01] <mebus> What would be a correct line in sources.list here?
[20:02] <daftykins> mebus: run a "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update" just to double check
[20:03] <daftykins> actually that URL definitely doesn't exist so somethings wrong :)
[20:03] <mebus> daftykins: doesn't help.
[20:03] <mebus> the url is wrong
[20:04] <mebus> what can I do?
[20:04] <daftykins> mebus: backup your current sources file and try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:04] <Flannel> mebus: Can you open http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/restricted/binary-i386/ in your browser?
[20:05] <mebus> Flannel: yes.
[20:06] <Flannel> mebus: Nothing looks out of the ordinary there, you can get to it in a browser too.
[20:06] <mebus> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5YsmRtXK
[20:07] <guntbert> Flannel: the file name is wrong - there are Packages.gz and Packages.bz2
[20:07] <mebus> network problem
[20:08] <mebus> sorry.
[20:08] <Flannel> guntbert: That's always the case though.
[20:08] <Flannel> guntbert: It automagically knows to grab the compressed versions
[20:08] <crzdcarney> Hey i have a question.  I installed Linux, encrypted the entire drive, it automatically made a 32 gb swap partition.  Would it be easier to just backup everything, reinstall, set the correct swap partition size, then reload the data from the backup?  or can i some how resize the swap even though its encrypted?
[20:09] <guntbert> Flannel: never seen before - sorry :-)
[20:09] <HedgeMage> crzdcarney: assuming a standard LUKS+LVM2 setup, you can safely resize.  However, keep in mind that if you want suspend-to-disk functionality, your swap must be a bit bigger than your RAM total.
[20:10] <Raeth> Hello. I tried out Unity for the first time today and have set the dock to auto-hide, however I cannot push it open with my tablet, only the mouse. Does anyone know of this problem?
[20:10] <crzdcarney> I have 32 gb of ram
[20:10] <crzdcarney> I wanted to shrink it down to 4 gb ... is that a bad idea?
[20:10] <HedgeMage> crzdcarney: Then if you shrink your SWAP, you may lose suspend-to-disk capability (depending on how full your RAM is when you suspend).
[20:11] <crzdcarney> can i disable suspend to disk?
[20:11] <crzdcarney> i am guessing suspend to disk is the same as hibernate?
[20:11] <crzdcarney> sorry i am new to linux
[20:11] <HedgeMage> yes, suspend-to-disk is hibernate
[20:12] <HedgeMage> You can just not use it...I'm not sure how deeply into Ubuntu's configs you would have to dig to disable it.  I use other distros primarily, just have ubuntu on one of my work machines.
[20:13] <crzdcarney> i am actually on linux mint right now not ubuntu
[20:13] <Borealix> ./clear
[20:13] <Borealix> opps
[20:14] <bekks> crzdcarney: So refer to the mint support community please.
[20:15] <HedgeMage> telmac: btw, I'm back now if you need i3 help
[20:15] <crzdcarney> i tried, not super helpful, figured i would check here since mint and ubuntu are similar
[20:16] <crzdcarney> but thank you for pointing me in the right direction
[20:17] <MadHatter42> hello everyone
[20:17] <MadHatter42> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 20001 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:3389
[20:17] <MadHatter42> i did a nat like this
[20:17] <MadHatter42> having forward to accept
[20:17] <MadHatter42> it still doesnt work
[20:24] <metallic> A swift question, what is the difference between "umount /something" and "umount -l /something"? I am not sure if I understand the description of the -l flag on the man page
[20:24] <EriC^^> metallic: umount -l will lazy unmount it
[20:24] <EriC^^> meaning it will tell the system it is unmounted, but it actually won't get unmounted until all the files aren't in use yet
[20:25] <EriC^^> which is dangerous, in case you unplug the usb after a umount -l, cause some files will still be open
[20:25] <metallic> mmmm... interesting, thanks EriC^^ :)
[20:26] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[20:26] <metallic> Now I get what the man page means ^^
[20:26] <metallic> I am not afraid of data loss since I want to loss data actually :/
[20:27] <doncamote> hola
[20:27] <Voyage> I plugged in a usb disk but dolphin is not showing it. what should I do? it used to auto mount it even in the past.
[20:29] <telmac> HedgeMage: is there a way with the regular unity to leave unity in place, give me the splash screen, but when I log in give me an i3 session?
[20:30] <telmac> it seemed that was fucked/impossible so right now I'm just installing minimal
[20:31] <daftykins> we warned you about the language already, telmac -please be polite.
[20:31] <telmac> daftykins: I would contend your conception of politeness
[20:31] <Johnny_Linux> grow up
[20:32] <Guest78196> hola buenas tardes
[20:32] <telmac> Johnny_Linux: no really, it's absolutely artificial
[20:32] <daftykins> telmac: channel rules, either abide by them or leave.
[20:33] <Guest78196> hola
[20:33] <daftykins> !es | Guest78196
[20:41] <SomeAnonDude> anyone knows how to connect the hinges of the small f1 to delete keys?
[20:41] <Seveas> SomeAnonDude: that depends on the keyboard and is hopelessly offtopic in here :)
[20:44] <SomeAnonDude> Seveas: okay
[20:44] <pantato> the guides i am seeing for AMD proprietary driver installation say there should be a sh file downloaded from the ati site. I'm only seeing deb files on the site
[20:44] <pantato> should i choose "linux 64" or "ubuntu 64"
[20:45] <daftykins> ubuntu i should think
[20:45] <daftykins> perhaps they've finally changed how they provide things
[20:46] <pantato> yeah.  This is a clean install now though. I'll report back how it goes
[20:46] <HedgeMage> telmac: You can, from the login screen, select an i3 session...but IIRC (haven't done it in a while) there was a need to disable a bunch of stuff Ubuntu starts by default for all X sessions.
[20:46] <OerHeks> if you run ubuntu, why not choose ubuntu 64 ..
[20:46] <HedgeMage> telmac: That said, I'd prefer the minimal install...less cruft to contend with.
[20:47] <pantato> lol this package has 2 stars in the software center =\
[20:47] <pantato> i wonder which version has the most stars
[20:56] <dubhdara> can someone tell me why when I try to set up a static ip in ubuntu why when i go to reboot it will not let me use the wireless in on the computer again
[20:58] <telmac> HedgeMage: yeah, I'm trying a minimal
[20:58] <telmac> first try grub install failed so I stupidly accepted no grub
[20:58] <telmac> and so it couldn't boot at all
[20:59] <qwyos> What's the default gnome-terminal font? It's not Monospace is it?
[21:00] <HedgeMage> telmac: And now you know why gentoo is my primary distro. :)
[21:01] <teward> dubhdara: the static IP address needs to be in the internal IP range for the router.
[21:01] <teward> dubhdara: if it's not you have zero network connectivity.
[21:01] <teward> dubhdara: did you verify the IP address you assigned is in the acceptable IP range, and that the IP address isn't already in use on the network?
[21:01] <dubhdara> no
[21:01] <telmac> HedgeMage: I was using debian for a while but the repos, even on "unstable" aren't as good as ubuntu
[21:01] <dubhdara> I used <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:01] <telmac> and I don't want to deal with arch/gentoo/whatever
[21:02] <dubhdara> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:02] <dubhdara> okay i will do it this time thanks
[21:03] <dubhdara> i been trying to set up a mumble server
[21:03] <dubhdara> a pain in the butt
[21:03] <HedgeMage> telmac: Depends on your needs...I've run into enough edge case things I want to do that even sucking up the systemd thing I end up with no real win running Ubuntu in terms of admin overhead.
[21:06] <qwyos> ok, it's Ubuntu Mono 13
[21:07] <ablest1980> hello how do i change from eth1 to eth0 ?
[21:08] <telmac> HedgeMage: I'm noob enough not to get why systemd is such a big deal
[21:08] <Voyage> in latest kubuntu, my desktop isnt just loading. I see no taskbar and no wallpaper. xhcat just popup up so I am able to chat here. Tried rebooting too. same
[21:11] <kokut> Hello, is there anything like sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ but for lemp server? (with nginx instead of apache)
[21:12] <HedgeMage> telmac: it's a code quality and security nightmare.
[21:12] <bekks> kokut: Install nginx, mysql and php.
[21:12] <HedgeMage> telmac: But that's a rant I expect this chan to be tired of by now.
[21:12] <kokut> bekks: yea but it takes more time and configuration
[21:13] <bekks> kokut: Yeah. And? :)
[21:13] <kokut> bekks: and thats why i'm asking
[21:13] <bekks> kokut: It is just one command. :)
[21:14] <hdon> hi all :) can anyone recommend an alternative to evolution for email client? (need smtp, imap, ssl+tls)
[21:15] <bekks> hdon: thunderbird
[21:17] <telmac> okay, grub failed again
[21:17] <telmac> I'm using the 15.4 mini installer, and the grub installer failed
[21:19] <zykotick9> hdon: i use mutt myself.  mozilla has an email client thunderbird might be it's name (icedove in debian)...
[21:21] <Dr-007> daftykins, setting a static IP did not resolve the issue
[21:21] <Dr-007> does the order in ip route make a "difference" ?
[21:22] <genii> First match wins
[21:22] <Benno-007> hdon: Take a look at http://www.claws-mail.org/themes.php?section=downloads too. It has many themes and plugins like pgp (inline and mime)... It's small and fast.
[21:28] <Guest97876> hello, can anyone please help me with a problem i'm having? i'm trying to boot Ubuntu 14.04 from a USB drive, I can get to the Ubuntu installation screen, but I'm having a problem
[21:29] <EriC^^> Guest97876: what's happening?
[21:29] <Spec-Chum> Guest97876, what's the issue?
[21:29] <Spec-Chum> oh, lol
[21:30] <Guest97876> 1 second, im trying to get the screen back up so i can type it
[21:30] <Guest97876> UGH sorry, give me a moment please
[21:32] <telmac> well that's fucking broken
[21:32] <bekks> telmac: Can you finally watch your language please?
[21:32] <telmac> grub install failed again
[21:32] <telmac> tried lilo
[21:32] <telmac> hmm, that's even weirder
[21:35] <student_> ahoj
[21:35] <Guest97876> Ok, I was able to get my computer to the Ubuntu installer splash screen earlier, but I can't get it to do it anymore after I had unplugged my USB drive
[21:35] <telmac> bekks: so, when I tried to install from mini.iso I got to the end and then the grub install failed
[21:35] <Guest97876> When I boot my computer, I go to the purple GNU GRUB screen, where I can choose either Ubuntu, Adv. Options for Ubuntu, or two memory test options
[21:36] <telmac> so I tried lilo, and lilo itself seems to work but the kernel is totally dead
[21:36] <EriC^^> Guest97876: what are you trying to do?
[21:36] <Guest97876> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04
[21:36] <telmac> Guest97876: have you plugged your lash drive back in?
[21:36] <Guest97876> ok now, i'm back to the error i've been having for days
[21:36] <Guest97876> yes
[21:37] <telmac> did you select the flash drive from your bios's boot screen?
[21:37] <Guest97876> i'm at "Gave up waiting for root device", and i'm at this command line type thing with (initramfs)
[21:37] <Guest97876> I did.
[21:37] <telmac> you did, since you plugged it back in?
[21:37] <Guest97876> Yeah, I manually typed in the path and everything.
[21:38] <EriC^^> Guest97876: that sounds like ubuntu is installed already and is failing to boot
[21:38] <Guest97876> Yeah, let me tell you what happened
[21:38] <Guest97876> I had a Windows 8 laptop. A long time ago. I got fed up, installed 14.04. It was super buggy.
[21:39] <Guest97876> A few days ago, I decided I wanted to wipe it and start fresh. I deleted one of my partitions (probably why it cant boot, i know i really messed up here), and turned it off. I've been stuck with the initramfs error ever since.
[21:39] <Guest97876> I have no idea what to do.
[21:39] <telmac> my guess would be that you deleted grub
[21:39] <telmac> so, you should just reinstall
[21:39] <Guest97876> no, i'm able to go to this grub screen
[21:39] <Guest97876> i'm TRYING to reinstall
[21:39] <EriC^^> Guest97876: do you have data on it that you need?
[21:39] <Guest97876> no, nothing on it that i need
[21:39] <telmac> yeah no I'm getting to that
[21:40] <Guest97876> i would LOVE to wipe the thing from scratch
[21:40] <telmac> idk why you needed to type in the path for your flash drive
[21:40] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, how did you make the live usb?
[21:40] <telmac> like uh, shouldn't your bios just give you a list of bootable devices?
[21:40] <telmac> and btw have you tried booting the live usb on anything else?
[21:40] <Guest97876> Well, originally I just downloaded the iso and popped it on there, but then i used a program that was reccomended to me from an ubuntu website, i cant remember what it is exactly but i believe it works
[21:40] <Guest97876> as i WAS able to get to the ubuntu splash screen earlier
[21:41] <Guest97876> but when i tried installing, i got an error
[21:41] <Guest97876> the error was kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,2)
[21:42] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, are you using uefi?
[21:42] <Guest97876> Uefi?
[21:43] <Guest97876> I'm not quite sure.
[21:43] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, enter the bios, and check is uefi is enabled or not, and the boot order
[21:43] <Guest97876> got it, will do that now.
[21:44] <Guest97876> arghh, every time i go into the bios i have to retype in the path
[21:44] <EriC^^> Guest97876: what do you mean?
[21:45] <Guest97876> Well, it's not a boot option when I start BIOS back up. I had previously entered it in and saved my changes, so I have to Add New Boot Option again
[21:45] <Guest97876> also I'm not seeing anything about UEFI, where would that be at
[21:46] <Guest97876> J:\EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi is my path, im just posing it so i dont forget it later
[21:47] <Guest97876> anyways, i've now added the usb as a boot option, and set it as Boot Option #1. What else do I need to do
[21:47] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, so that means you're using uefi, as grubx64.efi is the efi file
[21:47] <EriC^^> Guest97876: set the usb as the first option, and then reboot so it loads
[21:48] <Guest97876> Ok, that didn't do anything.
[21:48] <Guest97876> It still takes me to the purple ubuntu screen that says GNU GRUB version 2.02 on the top
[21:49] <Guest97876> not the splash screen that i was able to get to earlier, which i did i think by randomly hitting enter on some things in the Boot Override section
[21:49] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, try to press esc when the pc boots, you might get a boot options menu, select it and then choose usb uefi
[21:49] <owen1> closing the lid doesn't hibernate (15.05). any tips?
[21:50] <Guest97876> ok i did get that screen BUT for some reason, the usb isnt an option!!
[21:50] <Guest97876> i dont get why it wont save, i AM hitting save changes
[21:51] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try a different usb port
[21:51] <Guest97876> Oh my god.
[21:51] <Guest97876> I think that might be it.
[21:51] <telmac> lololol
[21:52] <Guest97876> if this fixes it im going to lose my shit, pardon my language
[21:52] <Guest97876> (In a good way)
[21:52] <schindler> Hey, can someone help me setup bumblebee? Its refusing to work
[21:53] <daftykins> schindler: nvidia-prime is bumblebee's replacement
[21:53] <Guest97876> ok, its STILL not showing up on that boot device screen, but it does show a USB device that hasnt been plugged into my laptop for DAYS? im going to try selecting that, maybe it is reading my usb as the old one or something
[21:53] <daftykins> no reason to use it anymore
[21:53] <Guest97876> YES
[21:53] <Guest97876> THERE WE GO
[21:53] <schindler> ooo, let me go look that up
[21:53] <Guest97876> ok im at the ubuntu splash screen and now back to that error
[21:53] <Guest97876> kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,2)
[21:53] <Guest97876> which i have no idea how to fix
[21:54] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, boot the grubx64.efi file you booted earlier
[21:54] <Guest97876> how do i do that?
[21:55] <Guest97876> isnt booting the grubx64.efi file what got me to the ubuntu install splash screen?
[21:55] <schindler> does anyone know what the wildcard is for the nvida settings string matching? is it *?
[21:55] <EriC^^> Guest97876: when you got the boot options menu earlier was there a boot from file?
[21:55] <daftykins> schindler: just purge all nvidia* all bumblebee* then install nvidia-### and nvidia-prime from default repos
[21:55] <schindler> yea I already did that
[21:56] <daftykins> schindler: including nvidia-prime?
[21:56] <daftykins> despite not knowing what it is 0o
[21:56] <EriC^^> Guest97876: booting that file should try to boot your old ubuntu installation, we need grub
[21:56] <schindler> yes
[21:56] <EriC^^> Guest97876: so boot it, and when grub appears press c
[21:56] <Guest97876> ahhhh
[21:57] <Guest97876> ok, im at the grub command line, what now?
[21:57] <schindler> What I ment if for the application profile rules
[21:57] <daftykins> schindler: huh?
[21:57] <schindler> is*
[21:57] <EriC^^> Guest97876: type ls
[21:57] <daftykins> schindler: did you not get the package nvidia-settings too?
[21:58] <schindler> in nvidia-settings, you can set rules
[21:58] <schindler> I just wanna know for the "string matching" part, do I need to add a wildcard
[21:58] <Guest97876> ok, it returned
[21:58] <EriC^^> Guest97876: do you still have the iso you downloaded for the live usb?
[21:58] <schindler> like *java*
[21:58] <Guest97876> (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1, msdos1)
[21:59] <daftykins> eh never dealt with that directly, might be best to look it up
[21:59] <schindler> k thx
[21:59] <Guest97876> the iso is on the usb
[21:59] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yeah, but do you have the original file somewhere else?
[22:00] <Guest97876> i don't think so. i mean, i could download it again right now
[22:00] <ubuntuislove> Hello guys good afternoon, how can I check the FPS of video I'm watching on YouTube or Twitch.tv, In windows I used fraps, Thank you.
[22:00] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, type ls (hd0,msdos1) and tell me what you see
[22:00] <daftykins> ubuntuislove: right click and use the stats for nerds thing for YT
[22:01] <enigma_> hi
[22:01] <ablest1980> hi
[22:01] <enigma_> how are you all
[22:01] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[22:01] <ablest1980> im ok u
[22:01] <enigma_> good where you fromplease
[22:01] <ablest1980> ny
[22:01] <Guest97876> Ok, it tells me
[22:02] <enigma_> newyork is that chief
[22:02] <ablest1980> yes
[22:02] <ablest1980> u
[22:02] <enigma_> cool
[22:02] <ubuntuislove> @daftykins, thank you very much that works for YouTube, any idea about Twitch.
[22:02] <ablest1980> thanks
[22:02] <Guest97876> Partition hd0,msdos1: filesystem type ext* - last modification time 2015-05-15 15:38:21 Friday, UUID 1a8aadbf-7341-420b-b77e-25389a966c5b - partition start at 1024KiB - Total size 248832KiB
[22:02] <stacks88> i just ran adduser bob.. then after i ran the command 'groups', and it only says root. but when i do cat /etc/groups|grep bob , i see bob there. Is it normal that when i type groups, i DONT see bob as a listed group?
[22:03] <daftykins> ubuntuislove: nah i'd have answered both in one go if so \o/
[22:03] <enigma_> so any uk user in here
[22:03] <enigma_> users*
[22:03] <EriC^^> stacks88: yes, you need to logout and back in
[22:03] <ubuntuislove> @daftykins :) wish you to have nice day
[22:04] <cromagi> anyone on kubuntu 15.04?
[22:04] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, type ls (hd0,msdos1)/
[22:04] <cromagi> ?
[22:04] <stacks88> i logged out nad back in, still see root as the only group, but im guessing this is normal since theres tons of groups in /etc/group and i dont se any of those listed either when typing groups
[22:04] <daftykins> cromagi: all the folks in #kubuntu are - but if you ask your next question, it might be easier to help
[22:05] <EriC^^> Guest97876: are you sure that legacy mode is not enabled in the bios?
[22:05] <Guest97876> ooh lord, thats a lot to type in
[22:05] <cromagi> It still feels super unstable. Spotify doesnt work, windows have "seizures" so to speak when i minimize maximize open or close them.
[22:05] <LeEarl> hi
[22:05] <Guest97876> im not sure, do you want me to go check right now?
[22:05] <EriC^^> Guest97876: just a quick run down, do you see /grub vmlinuz initrd etc. ? or what, just name a couple dirs or files
[22:05] <Guest97876> but it tells me lost+found/ grub/ system.map-3.13.0-46 generic and then a lot of tstuff similar with 3.13.0 something
[22:06] <Guest97876> i see vmlinuz
[22:06] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, that is your /boot
[22:06] <LeEarl> I tried installing AMD video drivers but failed! And now the screen is flickering! How do I get it back to how it was?!
[22:06] <Guest97876> initrd is there
[22:06] <daftykins> cromagi: what graphics hardware?
[22:06] <cromagi> AMD
[22:06] <LeEarl> AMD=ATI
[22:06] <daftykins> cromagi: and have you installed a proprietary driver?
[22:06] <EriC^^> Guest97876: it's odd however that it is using a msdos partition, uefi works with gpt partitions
[22:06] <cromagi> No
[22:06] <daftykins> LeEarl: not for years they haven't been
[22:07] <EriC^^> Guest97876: type ls (hd1,msdos1)/
[22:07] <LeEarl> AMD bought ATI and now the drivers are called AMD video driver
[22:07] <daftykins> LeEarl: if you installed a package, purge it - if you ran the AMD installer, run their uninstaller
[22:07] <cromagi> daftykins: ^^
[22:07] <daftykins> LeEarl: yes you are giving 5+ year old information :)
[22:07] <daftykins> cromagi: which card?
[22:07] <EriC^^> Guest97876: did you see anywhere in your bios that legacy or ccsm enabled?
[22:07] <LeEarl> lemme find the walkthrough guide they had o ubuntu site...
[22:08] <cromagi> daftykins: I'm not entirely sure how can I check?
[22:08] <Guest97876> i cant remember if it was or wasn't
[22:08] <Guest97876> ok, here's what hd1,msdos1)/ gave me...
[22:09] <daftykins> cromagi: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit" then share the link here
[22:09] <daftykins> !ati | LeEarl This one ?
[22:09] <Guest97876> $attrdef, $badclus, $bitmap, $boot, $extend/ $logfile $mft %mftmirr, $secure, $upcase, $volume, autorun.inf boot/ casper/ dists/ dreamwc3/ EFI/ install/ isolinux/ license.txt Uni-Usb-Installer-Copying.txt Uni-USB-Installer-Readme.ttx uui/ wubi.exe
[22:09] <LeEarl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:10] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, type configfile (hd1,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:10] <LeEarl> guys can I ask a philosophical question?
[22:11] <cromagi> daftykins: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:11] <cromagi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:11] <cromagi> daftykins: I know why hold on
[22:11] <LeEarl> why does linux community always like this, saying read this do that. why are not there apps or scripts that do the things they are telling?!
[22:12] <Guest97876> Oh my.
[22:12] <daftykins> LeEarl: the problems you are experiencing are down to *AMD* making life harder, not the Linux community :)
[22:12] <cromagi> LeEarl: Linux is perfect the way it is. If you don't like it there is always chromebook,windows,or mac.
[22:12] <Guest97876> Eric, I don't know what you did, but It's looking good. Should I go ahead and select Install Ubuntu, Try without installing, OEM install?
[22:12] <LeEarl> cromagi, that is exactly why linux is light years behind other OSes
[22:12] <EriC^^> Guest97876: select try without installing for a second
[22:13] <Flannel> LeEarl: That's a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic than here (the philosophical one, the technical ones are for here).
[22:13] <LeEarl> cromagi, the kinda thinking like linux only belongs to the elite
[22:13] <Fuchs> LeEarl: probably more a question for the off topic channel. But in general it's better to help people how to solve things instead of solving it, teaching a man to fish etc.
[22:13] <LeEarl> ok so back to my technical
[22:13] <LeEarl> how do I get the system back to the way it were?
[22:14] <Guest97876> hmm, black scren
[22:14] <cromagi> LeEarl: what is your problem? I cant scroll up
[22:14] <EriC^^> Guest97876: oh, i guess there are graphics driver issues, it's no problem
[22:14] <daftykins> cromagi: it's practically the same task as for you, so i doubt you can help ;)
[22:14] <LeEarl> I tried installing AMD video drivers but failed! And now the screen is flickering! How do I get it back to how it was?!
[22:14] <LeEarl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:14] <dfcnvt> I clicked left mouse button on a regular terminal window and it automatically moves the terminal to the other workspace. What's causing this?
[22:14] <EriC^^> Guest97876: press ctrl+alt+f1
[22:15] <LeEarl> I followed their guide there ^
[22:15] <daftykins> LeEarl: no, we are identifying the card first.
[22:15] <stacks88> oh i see. with the groups command im suppose to specify a user. so if im just typing groups as root, its only gonna say root, makes sense now. i stupidly thought by typing groups, it was gonna show me a list of all groups on the system (/etc/groups)
[22:15] <daftykins> cromagi: did you close other package managers and run my command yet?
[22:15] <cromagi> LeEarl: mine is doing the same thing. Just play with propietary drivers until it works
[22:15] <cromagi> ya
[22:15] <cromagi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11194639/  :::daftykins
[22:16] <LeEarl> !ati
[22:16] <daftykins> ok AMD HD 6320
[22:16] <Guest97876> ok, i held down ctrl+alt+f1 for a while but nothing changed
[22:16] <Guest97876> should i reboot?
[22:16] <LeEarl> u want my card model # ?
[22:16] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yes, and enter the bios and make sure legacy is not enabled or ccsm
[22:16] <orakar> Hey! Anyone know much about gedit? Having weird issues...
[22:16] <cromagi> do what I just did leEarl
[22:16] <daftykins> cromagi: so have you tried the additional drivers program?
[22:17] <cromagi>  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit
[22:17] <LeEarl> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV635 PRO [Radeon HD 3650 AGP]
[22:17] <cromagi> no I havent
[22:17] <cromagi> I went to it but im not sure what to use
[22:17] <LeEarl> ok
[22:17] <cromagi> paste the output here
[22:17] <daftykins> cromagi: it would appear Kubuntu has a driver manager, give it a try by rooting around in the system settings equivalent, or just "sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"
[22:17] <LeEarl> guys I am not totally daft, I know some linux fu
[22:17] <LeEarl> or lin fu as they call it
[22:18] <daftykins> LeEarl: your card is unsupported.
[22:18] <daftykins> LeEarl: you cannot obtain any alternative driver than the one already in use
[22:18] <daftykins> (which will be 'radeon')
[22:18] <LeEarl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11194697/
[22:18] <orakar> Gedit is running incredibly slow and my cursor is blinking when I have unsaved modifications. As soon as I hit ctrl+s it acts normally, and then a few more unsaved modifications make it run dog slow again. Any idea what's up? My notebook sucks, but it runs Eclipse Luna fine!
[22:18] <cromagi> daftykins: after that command what should I do?
[22:18] <Guest97876> Where do I go to disable legacy/ccsm?
[22:18] <daftykins> cromagi: reboot
[22:18] <cromagi> Okay.
[22:19] <EriC^^> Guest97876: it should be under boot options
[22:19] <Guest38440> exit
[22:19] <Guest38440> :o
[22:19] <LeEarl> daftykins, I ma not trying to install an ati/amd driver. I just want my system back to  pre-flicker era
[22:20] <memerson> ha meme
[22:20] <cromagi> LeEarl: run the command he just told me to run
[22:20] <Guest97876> ok, fast boot enabled, launch csm disabled?
[22:20] <daftykins> LeEarl: right so as i originally stated, either run the uninstaller if you downloaded it - or purge the package if you installed via package :)
[22:20] <daftykins> cromagi: _NO_
[22:20] <Guest97876> excuse me eric, i have to go have dinner with the family, i shouldn't be too long
[22:20] <cromagi> LeEarl: or go change your graphics driver to the one that worked before
[22:20] <daftykins> pay attention, i said LeEarl's card is unsupported
[22:21] <EriC^^> Guest97876: csm disabled, no problem
[22:21] <cromagi> Its hard to read this is brutally flickering daftykins
[22:21] <daftykins> cromagi: come on IRC from a different system?
[22:22] <LeEarl> daftykins, how do uninstall that grfxs whatever
[22:22] <LeEarl> sudo apt-get remove?
[22:22] <daftykins> LeEarl: well like i said, i need to know how you installed it first.
[22:22] <cromagi> daftykins: working on all my systems d:
[22:22] <LeEarl> sudo apt-get isntall
[22:22] <daftykins> LeEarl: right, so yes - sudo apt-get purge <the package you installed before>
[22:22] <daftykins> likely fglrx, or fglrx-updates
[22:22] <LeEarl> sudo apt-get install fglrx xvba-va-driver libva-glx1 libva-egl1 vainfo
[22:23] <LeEarl> that is what I did in the terminal
[22:23] <daftykins> yep so swap 'install' with 'purge'
[22:23] <daftykins> then reboot
[22:23] <LeEarl> do I purge all?
[22:24] <LeEarl> does linux have something like "windows restore" ?
[22:24] <cromagi> daftykins: Do you know how to use windows games on linux without any problems? I mean I always get some kind of problem with it. I just want to play Combat arms.
[22:24] <LeEarl> so when things screw up u just restore the os "?
[22:24] <daftykins> LeEarl: see the line you pasted above? copy it. change the word 'install' for 'purge'
[22:24] <LeEarl> cromagi, try playonlinux
[22:24] <LeEarl> daftykins, ok thanx
[22:25] <cromagi> LeEarl: I have. error code.
[22:25] <daftykins> cromagi: do you use steam?
[22:25] <LeEarl> cromagi, when installing pox? or when playing the game?
[22:25] <cromagi> daftkins: no this is a free windows game from an official website its not on steam
[22:26] <LeEarl> cromagi, in google search for the game name + wine
[22:26] <daftykins> cromagi: ok, i'm afraid i don't help with game issues
[22:26] <daftykins> !appdb | cromagi look here however
[22:26] <LeEarl> maybe someone already tried to install it on wine with certain settings
[22:26] <cromagi> ok
[22:26] <cromagi> gimme time lol
[22:26] <LeEarl> time u r given
[22:27] <cromagi> Im working on two systems I may come back to you with the same question when I am done d:
[22:27] <LeEarl> I am gonna reboot
[22:27] <Guest97876> ok, i am back
[22:27] <cromagi> daftykins: that command i ran will it fix the problem?
[22:28] <EriC^^> Guest97876: wb
[22:28] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[22:28] <daftykins> cromagi: the one i suggested about installing fglrx?
[22:28] <Guest97876> so just to confirm, fast boot enabled, launch csm disabled, which then disables the legacy thing, right?
[22:28] <cromagi> daftykins: yes
[22:29] <HikaruBG> I have been trying to install an older version of PHP (5.3.29) and idd it by downloading the archive, then running: ./configure, make, make install
[22:29] <HikaruBG> now I can see the PHP version from the command line
[22:29] <daftykins> cromagi: why do you think i suggested it?
[22:29] <HikaruBG> but it won't work with my apache
[22:29] <HikaruBG> how can I get rid of this?
[22:29] <EriC^^> Guest97876: right
[22:29] <cromagi> daftykins: I wasnt sure if there were more steps after or if this was it
[22:29] <HikaruBG> how can I uninstall PHP, that have been installed with make, make install ?
[22:30] <cromagi> brb reboot
[22:30] <bekks> HikaruBG: Hopefully the Makefile provides an "uninstall" target.
[22:30] <Guest97876> ok, now what
[22:30] <EriC^^> Guest97876: boot the grubx64.efi file
[22:31] <Guest97876> i dont know if i can, it only takes me to bios now...
[22:31] <Guest97876> hangon.
[22:31] <Guest97876> wait, now i dont have ANY Boot options
[22:31] <HikaruBG> Oh, - i haven't thought about that :) Thanks, bekks
[22:31] <HikaruBG> :)
[22:31] <HikaruBG> let me check
[22:31] <Fun> hey folks
[22:32] <Fun> I have installed english and 1 more language however in the panel in the right hand corner
[22:32] <Fun> I am yet to find way to switch them
[22:32] <EriC^^> Guest97876: was csm enabled earlier?
[22:32] <Guest97876> yeah
[22:32] <Guest97876> they both were
[22:32] <HikaruBG> bekks, Nope
[22:32] <HikaruBG> no uninstall
[22:33] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, try pressing esc and go to boot options when the pc boots
[22:33] <Fun> ok managed
[22:33] <Fun> :D
[22:33] <BadLuckRyan> My laptop is stuck at "Boot Device Not Found 3f0" and I have no OS installed. It doesnt have a disk drive either.. Anyone know a fix?
[22:34] <Guest97876> ok, back to boot options. i guess the only thing i can do is manually add the USB again? that seems to be all i can do
[22:35] <bekks> HikaruBG: So you cannot uninstall it.
[22:35] <EriC^^> Guest97876: does it mention anything along the lines of boot from file.. ?
[22:35] <orakar> Gedit is running incredibly slow and my cursor is blinking when I have unsaved modifications. As soon as I hit ctrl+s it acts normally, and then a few more unsaved modifications make it run dog slow again. Any idea what's up? My notebook sucks, but it runs Eclipse Luna fine!
[22:35] <bekks> HikaruBG: Next time, build a deb file instead.
[22:35] <HikaruBG> bekks, :) Thanks! :)
[22:36] <Guest97876> for add new boot option, its just select filesystem, path for boot option
[22:36] <Guest97876> and for select filesystem, the only one there is the usb
[22:36] <EriC^^> ok, try the EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi you were using earlier
[22:37] <EriC^^> Guest97876: using the usb's partition letter
[22:37] <mrx> I am running 15.04.  :) No solution, guys?
[22:37] <cromagi> daftykins: my PC won't boot now
[22:39] <daftykins> !recovery | cromagi ok do this then purge the package i suggested
[22:39] <Guest97876> argh hang on, i have to find the path again
[22:39] <Fun> hi
[22:39] <Fun> if I run sudo rm -rf /etc/systemd will ubuntu work?
[22:40] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone
[22:40] <daftykins> lo
[22:40] <Guest97876> ok eric, i add that as a boot option, but it doesnt? like register? at all
[22:40] <Guest97876> when i go back to boot option priorities there's still NOTHING there
[22:40] <NetworkingPro> is there an app or service that will listen for traffic on a socket and forward it to a different IP?
[22:40] <Guest97876> Should i try restoring the default values for setup options?
[22:40] <OerHeks> HikaruBG, solution for that old PHP 5.3.29 ? install Precise with 5.3.10
[22:40] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try a different letter or try using the usb as the file system
[22:41] <VanDerGroot> Hi
[22:41] <EriC^^> Guest97876: no, try leaving csm disabled boot the usb
[22:41] <Guest97876> what do you mean by different letter
[22:41] <Guest97876> J:\EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi  is the path, are you saying to just tpye in a different letter for J?
[22:41] <EriC^^> Guest97876: like E:\EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi
[22:41] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, now I am striving to remove what I have installed... Thanks for the tip on the Precise tip.
[22:41] <HikaruBG> do you know how to remove make install PHP ?
[22:41] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try or I:\EFI\...
[22:42] <Guest97876> ok...just to be sure, ive been typing in fs0:\J:\EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi , since on the side of the screen it says "enter the path to the boot option in the format fs0:\path\filename.efi
[22:43] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try fs1:\EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi
[22:43] <EriC^^> Guest97876: are you at shell?
[22:43] <OerHeks> HikaruBG, make uninstall php ?
[22:44] <Guest97876> no, im at bios
[22:44] <Guest97876> but i wil try fs1
[22:44] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, yes, I did install the 5.3.29 version from the source, using make, make install ....
[22:44] <Guest97876> wait a minute
[22:44] <HikaruBG> and now I want to remove it
[22:44] <Guest97876> i see "launch efi shell from filesystem device
[22:44] <Guest97876> should i hit that?
[22:44] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try using fs1 first
[22:45] <Guest97876> it still didnt show up as a saved option but ok!
[22:45] <EriC^^> Guest97876: hmm try fs0:\EFI\BOOT\grubx64.efi
[22:45] <Guest97876> yep, that didnt work
[22:46] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, try to launch the shell
[22:46] <Guest97876> ugh, i hit that and it tells me WARNING: NOT FOUND
[22:46] <Azeirah> Hey all, does anyone here know where I can find the workspaces related code of Ubuntu Unity? It's a large repo
[22:46] <OerHeks> HikaruBG, checkinstall would have been better, if there is no make uninstall, make install can help finding installed files.
[22:47] <reisio> Azeirah: compiz
[22:47] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, And remove them? :) is this won't break nothing else?
[22:47] <Azeirah> That's in compiz? Alright, I'll see if I can find something
[22:48] <OerHeks> HikaruBG, i cannot guarantee it breakes something.
[22:48] <OerHeks> or not
[22:48] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, we could install in legacy mode if you want
[22:49] <VanDerGroot> I want to run a dual boot with ubuntu and windows 8. In what order should I install them?
[22:49] <Fun> can 15.04 run initd?
[22:49] <EriC^^> Guest97876: you could convert it to uefi if you want
[22:49] <EriC^^> VanDerGroot: windows then ubuntu
[22:49] <VanDerGroot> EriC^^: Thanks. WIll ubuntu handle the OS selection with grub?
[22:49] <EriC^^> VanDerGroot: yeah
[22:49] <Guest97876> that seems to be the only available option ):
[22:49] <VanDerGroot> Great. Thanks. :)
[22:50] <Guest97876> so, just enable legacy mode and csm again?
[22:50] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yes
[22:50] <EriC^^> VanDerGroot: no problem :)
[22:50] <Guest97876> ok, what else
[22:50] <EriC^^> Guest97876: check the bios if there is some kind of, don't boot the usb option enabled or something
[22:51] <EriC^^> also check if secureboot was enabled
[22:52] <Guest97876> well, under USB confirugration, there is Legacy USB Support enabled
[22:52] <LeEarl> guys how do I view the refresh rate?
[22:52] <EriC^^> try to disable that, and reboot and see if it boots the usb maybe
[22:52] <EriC^^> Guest97876: it's a long shot but who knows
[22:52] <Guest97876> the other legacy i was talking about was Launch PXE OpROM, which was described as "Controls the execution of Legacy PXE OpROM
[22:52] <Azeirah> I'm really impressed by how readable the compiz source code is compared to what I was just reading from the unity source, lol
[22:53] <Fun> http://www.osho.com/iosho/library/read-book/online-library-programming-eve-feel-6b55b211-462?p=4036e466dc00c584d4fb410aec7f6229
[22:53] <Fun> :)
[22:53] <Guest97876> AH
[22:53] <Guest97876> WE'RE BACK TO GRUB NOW
[22:53] <EriC^^> Guest97876: did you enable csm?
[22:53] <VanDerGroot> Mmmmm. Grub....
[22:55] <HikaruBG> Thanks, OerHeks
[22:55] <LeEarl> Fun whoever wrote that is a psycho
[22:55] <Guest97876> ugh, i cant remember if i did or not. let me go back and check
[22:56] <Fun> LeEarl well what makes u say that?
[22:56] <Guest97876> yes, CSM and PXE OpRom both enabled
[22:56] <BadLuckRyan> My laptop is stuck at "Boot Device Not Found 3f0" and I have no OS installed. It doesnt have a disk drive either.. Anyone know a fix?
[22:56] <Guest97876> and the boot options are back as well
[22:56] <LeEarl> Fun, the way he is mocking religion
[22:56] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try to disable csm, just to see if it will boot he usb after disabling usb legacy support
[22:56] <LeEarl> u can be whatever u want just leave others be
[22:57] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: no hard disk and SSD? so you mentioned not being able to get boot media to work, what did you try and how did you make them up?
[22:57] <EriC^^> Guest97876: is there any mention of secureboot?
[22:57] <LeEarl> and the usage of the workld Mohammedan is psychosis at well
[22:57] <Guest97876> i dont think so, ill check next time im in bios
[22:57] <Guest97876> which is right now
[22:57] <LeEarl> he could have just said muslim
[22:57] <LeEarl> he said Hindu
[22:57] <Guest97876> all my boot options are gone now that i have launch csm disabled
[22:57] <LeEarl> he did not say a Krishnaish
[22:57] <LeEarl> Krishnaist
[22:57] <Guest97876> secure boot control is disabled
[22:57] <Fuchs> LeEarl: pretty sure this doesn't belong in the support channel here, please take it elsewhere
[22:58] <BadLuckRyan> Make what up?   *Yoda style*
[23:00] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, try to reset the bios to the defaults maybe
[23:00] <Guest97876> what about when we did the thing in grub and got from that to what seemed like installation options? when i had the black screen?
[23:01] <BadLuckRyan> Im with Guest97876. My pc is dead
[23:02] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: from flash drives?
[23:02] <daftykins> so those needed preparing.
[23:02] <BadLuckRyan> Yes
[23:02] <Guest97876> restoring them to the defaults didnt do anything, i think the only thing i can do to get it to give me my boot options back is to enable csm
[23:02] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: so what did you use and from which OS?
[23:02] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, enable csm and legacy usb and go to the grub prompt
[23:02] <BadLuckRyan> LIVE USB
[23:03] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: no, i mean software wise?
[23:03] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try leaving legacy usb off, and see what happens
[23:03] <LMNOP_> ok lets start over wut is the problem here
[23:03] <BadLuckRyan> You mean what did i try to boot?
[23:03] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: how did you put the ISOs onto the flash drive?
[23:03] <daftykins> did you use a program, if so, which?
[23:04] <Guest97876> lmao
[23:04] <BadLuckRyan> Im using DriveDroid
[23:05] <Guest97876> now when i try to change launch csm back to enabled, and SAVE the settings, it doesnt actually save? because when it boots up, takes me back to bios, where theyre dsiabled
[23:05] <BadLuckRyan> Where are we going with this
[23:06] <Guest97876> why doesnt it remember that i changed my settings and saved them...
[23:07] <Guest97876> im going to re-enable usb legacy and see if that was why
[23:07] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, good idea
[23:07] <Guest97876> wait wtf, secure boot control magically re-enabled itself, im going to see if that's it
[23:08] <Guest97876> ah, that was it
[23:08] <BadLuckRyan> Wow good luck Guest97876. Seems like you're making progress
[23:08] <Guest97876> OH
[23:08] <Guest97876> OHHHH
[23:08] <Guest97876> THERE IT IS
[23:08] <Guest97876> and it took me to the installer splash screen and i am now back at the End kernel panic error
[23:09] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: oh that was you - yeah so you haven't bought a flash drive yet? not really able to help until you do.
[23:09] <pokeymantrainer> # Appears as ANNA
[23:09] <BadLuckRyan> How do you set up your flash drive then..? You extract the iso to it right?
[23:09] <daftykins> no not like an archive
[23:09] <BadLuckRyan> Its the same exact thing
[23:09] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, try to disable secure boot, and csm/usb legacy and see if it boots the usb
[23:10] <daftykins> no it's not
[23:10] <Guest97876> it IS booting the usb
[23:10] <BadLuckRyan> But suppose i did have a flash drive, Whats the next step.?
[23:10] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: but you don't.
[23:10] <Guest97876> it takes me to the ubuntu installation splash screen, and when i try to install ubuntu or try without installing, it gives me that kernek panic error
[23:10] <EriC^^> Guest97876: csm is disabled?
[23:10] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: is your phone rooted?
[23:10] <pokeymantrainer> (#G1<:E010M1) I have this problem where my wifi keeps dropping out every now and then. My signal is pretty good, so I don't know what's happening.
[23:10] <BadLuckRyan> What would the next step be
[23:10] <BadLuckRyan> Yes it is
[23:10] <Guest97876> no i dont believe it is but when it wasn't, i couldn't do anything
[23:10] <daftykins> which ROM are you using?
[23:11] <Guest97876> but i'll go try disabling it...
[23:11] <BadLuckRyan> slim rom
[23:11] <EriC^^> Guest97876: are you pressing try ubuntu or install ubuntu btw?
[23:11] <Guest97876> either one takes me to the same kernel error, ive tried both
[23:11] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok
[23:12] <Guest97876> ok, csm HAS to be enabled or else i can't get out of bios
[23:12] <Guest97876> anyways, i've gotten to the ubuntu installer boot menu
[23:12] <BadLuckRyan> I know DriveDroid works. I just need a program that boots
[23:12] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok
[23:12] <daftykins> ^ that'll just be due to conflicting parameters i'd bet ;)
[23:12] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try to get grub like earlier
[23:13] <Guest97876> its been a while, how did we get to grub? it auto boots to usb now
[23:13] <EriC^^> Guest97876: daftykins is probably right about that
[23:13] <EriC^^> Guest97876: try to boot without the usb plugged in maybe
[23:14] <Guest97876> oh, i was able to get to grub with usb plugged in, by hitting esc while booting and selecting a different boot option
[23:14] <Guest97876> so im back at grub, what now?
[23:15] <pokeymantrainer> # Appears as BOLO
[23:15] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: program? what?
[23:15] <daftykins> pokeymantrainer: either ask a question or leave please
[23:15] <daftykins> oh you did
[23:15] <BadLuckRyan> Nevermind guy
[23:15] <daftykins> BadLuckRyan: yeah buy a flash drive then come back :)
[23:15] <EriC^^> Guest97876: do you want to install in legacy, or install in legacy and then convert to uefi?
[23:16] <Guest97876> i don't even know the difference, whatever you think would work
[23:16] <BadLuckRyan> Ok girl
[23:18] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, type linux (hd1,msdos1)/casper/vmlinuz.efi  file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash nomodeset --
[23:19] <EriC^^> Guest97876: we can install in legacy mode onto a gpt partition, and try to use uefi, if your bios still doesn't like it you can still use legacy
[23:19] <Guest97876> ok so uh i typed that in, nothing really seemed to happen
[23:19] <Guest97876> is that supposed to be all as one command line?
[23:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:20] <EriC^^> type initrd (hd1,msdos1)/casper/initrd.lz
[23:20] <Guest97876> ok so, now what? when i entered it in, it took a second, and then allowed me to type in a new line as normal. should i reboot?
[23:20] <Guest97876> ah
[23:20] <EriC^^> come to think of it, i don't see how we can convert it, cause we can't boot the live usb in uefi mode even
[23:21] <EriC^^> so i guess you'll have to use legacy mode
[23:21] <Guest97876> oh, ok. so what should i do
[23:21] <HikaruBG> OerHeks,
[23:21] <EriC^^> the bios seems sketchy, it's missing the uefi shell for some reason and i have no idea honestly
[23:21] <ranglerzz> EriC^^: what
[23:22] <EriC^^> ranglerzz: you what?
[23:22] <zanzacar> I was to write a python module that reads data from a serial port. To test I was wondering if there was a way to simulate input on the serial port.
[23:22] <zanzacar> Does anyone know of way to do that?/
[23:22] <HikaruBG> OerHeks, so the answer to my problem was to use checkpackage with make install and greate the deb package, and then uninstall with dpkg -r php
[23:22] <EriC^^> ranglerzz: don't pm me nasty stuff
[23:22] <HikaruBG> nice ! :)
[23:22] <daftykins> EriC^^: do we know the make + model of this machine and whether it's up to date or not? (BIOS wise)
[23:22] <ranglerzz> HikaruBG: yers
[23:23] <EriC^^> ranglerzz: cunt
[23:23] <ranglerzz> EriC^^: ops
[23:24] <Guest97876> its an ASUS laptop, i couldnt tell you the model number since the sticker with that information got washed out when i got caught in the rain last year
[23:24] <HikaruBG> ranglerzz, has hers panties 2 sizes smaller today :)
[23:24] <daftykins> Guest97876: it'd say inside the BIOS i would think
[23:24] <Guest97876> just tell me what to do, i'm willing to do anything to this laptop at this point
[23:25] <daftykins> well identifying the model would be ace
[23:25] <LeEarl> guys how do u say: Caja? j=j or j=h ?
[23:25] <EriC^^> Guest97876: did you type the last command?
[23:25] <EriC^^> Guest97876: initrd .. ?
[23:25] <EriC^^> we can probably get more info about the bios and what not from the live session
[23:25] <Guest97876> initrd (hd1,msdos1)/casper/initrd.lz? yes
[23:26] <EriC^^> ok type boot
[23:26] <EriC^^> actually the bios should have the laptop's model name
[23:26] <Guest97876> OH?
[23:26] <Guest97876> UBUNTU 14.04 LOADING SCREEN IS UP
[23:27] <Guest97876> with 4 white dots turning orange annnnnd then theres a bunch of errors and my screen went black
[23:27] <Guest97876> OG
[23:27] <_xer0> Hello all, I just installed 15.04 recently on my home desktop. Using a wired connection, I can't seem to get my machine to talk on the network. DHCP is enabled, but is not grabbing an address. States 'unknown' for all variables when viewing connection info through network-manager. (sorry for wall of text)
[23:27] <Guest97876> OH MY GOD IT'S WORKING
[23:27] <Guest97876> IM ON MY DESKTOP EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING OH MAN
[23:28] <Guest97876> there's a desktop shortcut that says Install Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, I really want to click that and get this over with, do you suggest I do anything else first?
[23:29] <EriC^^> Guest97876: it's up to you, we can either see why the bios isn't booting uefi properly or install in legacy mode
[23:29] <EriC^^> first option probably you'll have to update the bios's firmware
[23:30] <Travisty> I just did a fresh intstall of Ubuntu 15.04 and when I run “sudo apt-get update” it says “0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)] …” and never gets further. Does anyone have some ideas of how to debug this?
[23:30] <Guest97876> I just want to get this over with so I can get back to work...install in legacy mode would just be installing it "normally", right? so go ahead and click the install icon?
[23:30] <EriC^^> but uefi boots slightly quicker and is more modern etc.
[23:30] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yeah
[23:30] <EriC^^> Guest97876: hold on
[23:30] <Guest97876> i'm so happy, im finally going to have a working computer again
[23:31] <Guest97876> oh, ok
[23:31] <Dumle29> So. I have two disks in my system. One with windows on it, and one with ubuntu on it. I recently upgraded to windows 8.1 (From 7) by doing a clean install. Now this wiped out grub, and I can't boot ubuntu (Well I could pick the other harddisk from my boot menu. Is there an easy way to get GRUB back from the liveCD (USB stick in my case) ?
[23:31] <LeEarl> guys how to view the refresh rate from command line?
[23:31] <EriC^^> Guest97876: make a gpt partition, it will work with legacy, and if you ever decide to update the bios you can use uefi, plus gpt supports more partitions and other options
[23:31] <reisio> Dumle29: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:32] <EriC^^> Guest97876: open a terminal
[23:32] <Dumle29> reisio: Thanks :)
[23:32] <reisio> Dumle29: basically grub-install
[23:32] <Guest97876> are you sure? i dont make a habit of fooling around with stuff like this
[23:32] <Guest97876> but i'll do what you say, you're the expert
[23:32] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yeah, it's no problem
[23:32] <VanDerGroot> Is it possible to get ubuntu to scroll while I'm holding down the mousewheel?
[23:32] <reisio> sure
[23:33] <Dumle29> reisio: Yeah I figured that'd be the way :) Thanks
[23:33] <Guest97876> hey, i got an error saying there were 0 bytes of disk space remaining, i went ahead and clicked ignore. anyways im at the terminal now
[23:33] <reisio> Guest97876: might want to make some space
[23:33] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:33] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoverLostDiskSpace
[23:34] <Guest97876> cant, it says theres no space left on the device
[23:34] <Guest97876> which is bizarre considering its a 500 gb hard drive
[23:34] <EriC^^> Guest97876: that's odd, it's supposed to be a live session
[23:34] <EriC^^> try clicking on gparted
[23:34] <Bashing-om> VanDerGroot: On my xterm, pressing down the scroll wheel is a "middle nouse button" click ; be involved perhaps to remap that behavior .
[23:35] <Guest97876> AHA
[23:35] <Guest97876> i have two partitions
[23:35] <Guest97876> unallocated, 465.52 GiB
[23:35] <pokeymantrainer> How much RAM do you have? Doesn't stuff get installed into RAM on a live session?
[23:35] <Travisty> I should mention that the internet seems to work otherwise - I just have trouble getting apt-get to work properly
[23:35] <daftykins> copied and run, not installed
[23:35] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, click on create new partition table or so
[23:35] <EriC^^> Guest97876: and make a new gpt partition table
[23:36] <VanDerGroot> Bashing-om: I'm thinking it should either be a setting in Unity or I'll just skip it. ^
[23:36] <VanDerGroot> ^^
[23:36] <LMNOP_> well its not really run in ram
[23:36] <Guest97876> ok, its saying itll erase ALL DATA on the entire disk /dev/sda, is that ok?
[23:36] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yeah
[23:36] <Guest97876> ok
[23:37] <Guest97876> ok, so i just have a big ol unallocated space of 465.76 gigs
[23:37] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, make a 300mb fat32 partition of type efi ( ef00 hex code )
[23:38] <EriC^^> Guest97876: i can't walk you through this on gparted, but if you open sudo cgdisk /dev/sda in a terminal i've used it
[23:38] <LMNOP_> the tough way but should work
[23:39] <Guest97876> ok, ive got that terminal thing up
[23:39] <Bashing-om> Travisty: I just joined the channel, But is this a source/list issue or a packge management issue ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ' indicates what ?
[23:40] <EriC^^> ok, click on new, when it asks which sector press enter, for size type 300M
[23:40] <EriC^^> Guest97876: when it asks for the hexcode type ef00
[23:40] <Travisty> Bashing-om: I also just joined. So I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 15.04. The first thing I did after getting my wireless set up was to open a terminal and type “sudo apt-get update”. It only printed “0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)] …” and never made any progress.
[23:41] <Travisty> Bashing-om: I just deleted /etc/apt/sources.list and used software-proeprties-gtk to create a new one, but it has the same problem
[23:42] <Guest97876> anything specific i should name this partition?
[23:43] <EriC^^> Guest97876: EFI partition
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Travisty: OK, system problem or a hardware issue ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' let's see where we go from there . Any yeah 15.04 is a new ball game . Be aware .
[23:43] <Guest97876> ok thats done, now what
[23:44] <EriC^^> Guest97876: make another partition, 2M in size, with the hex code ef02 call it bios-boot partition
[23:44] <Travisty> Bashing-om: (I actually had the same problem in an older version prior to installing 15.04. I just moved from Canada to the US and this problem started when I moved)
[23:45] <Travisty> Bashing-om: Both pings have 0 packets lost
[23:45] <Guest97876> setting the size in sectors as 2M isnt working for some reason, hitting enter just kinda deletes what i typed
[23:45] <Bashing-om> Travisty: K. The ping request still applies for my thought process .
[23:45] <EriC^^> Guest97876: are you sure it's the size in sectors or where it starts?
[23:45] <Travisty> Bashing-om: 0% packet loss for both addresses
[23:46] <Guest97876> size in sectors, i just hit enter for first sector
[23:47] <Travisty> Bashing-om: (Also, thanks for the help!)
[23:47] <luckybunny> My computer just crapped out on me agan. Not sure what's going on with it, but it's been doing it a lot lately. Basically froze up to the point where I had to do a REISUB
[23:47] <Guest97876> ok i ended up just making it anyways, its got a size of 1007.0 KiB, is that ok?
[23:47] <daftykins> luckybunny: memtest time!
[23:48] <luckybunny> except I think my keyboard doesn't work for that, because REISUB had no effect
[23:48] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yeah, no problem
[23:48] <Guest97876> ok, ready for next step
[23:48] <EriC^^> Guest97876: press write
[23:48] <luckybunny> eventually it pulled itself out, though, and my /home drectory was read-only
[23:48] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ah wait
[23:48] <Bashing-om> Travisty: Well, that do seem to point to a system confif issue huh ? show us what the sources.list is ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit ' . Let's make sure is it valid.
[23:48] <EriC^^> i think you created it before the EFI one, not after it
[23:49] <Travisty> I wish I had pastebinit :(
[23:49] <Guest97876> can we just make one big partition for my OS to use so i can install Ubuntu already?
[23:50] <daftykins> Guest97876: nope (: that's not how it works
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Travisty: Sorry, No pastebin tool installed .. this may get tough to deal with .. lemme ponder a bit .
[23:51] <EriC^^> Guest97876: delete the partition, create it after the efi one, press write
[23:51] <Travisty> Bashing-om: pastebin.com/CF2wnqJW
[23:51] <Guest97876> delete the bios boot one i just made?
[23:51] <EriC^^> yes
[23:51] <Guest97876> ok, so make a new partition?
[23:52] <Fun> hackergirl: its just I dislike coding so maybe i can do it for fun
[23:52] <Fun> :)
[23:52] <Fun> not I , my personal reaction
[23:52] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: he can use command | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:52] <daftykins> Fun: chat is over in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[23:52] <Fun> I used C to make cash
[23:52] <Fun> ok ok
[23:52] <LeEarl> cash in the stash
[23:52] <Travisty> EriC^^: Awesome, thanks
[23:53] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:53] <EriC^^> Guest97876: yeah
[23:53] <Craigwell> meh
[23:53] <Craigwell> i tried windows 7 disc to repair boot,
[23:53] <Craigwell> still no dice.
[23:53] <Craigwell> incredible.
[23:54] <daftykins> Craigwell: i think you want ##windows
[23:54] <Craigwell> Even after reinstall win 7 to the new partition, windows would not boot. tried their bootrec.exe
[23:54] <Fun> Craigwell: u can access files with ubuntu live
[23:54] <Craigwell> its a lament daftykinds
[23:54] <Fun> to copy them
[23:54] <Craigwell> daftykins
[23:54] <Craigwell> i can mount all of it no problem
[23:54] <granddan> Hello, everyone! Will Ubuntu run smoothly with 2 GB of Ram?
[23:54] <Guest97876> anyways so new partition, what do i name it/hexcode/size?
[23:54] <Fun> lubuntu is more likely
[23:55] <daftykins> granddan: xubuntu will
[23:55] <Travisty> Bashing-om: Alternatively, http://termbin.com/sxs0
[23:55] <Craigwell> i cannot get gparted, windows 7 install disc, to fix the microsoft crap
[23:55] <daftykins> granddan: use 32-bit too
[23:55] <EriC^^> Guest97876: size is 2M, hexcode is ef02 , name it bios-boot partition
[23:55] <daftykins> Craigwell: sadly no assistance can be provided with Windows here in #ubuntu
[23:55] <granddan> daftykins: is 2GB few for Ubuntu?
[23:56] <daftykins> granddan: in my opinion yes
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Travisty: OK. I be look'n at your pastebin.com/CF2wnqJW . Thanks EriC^^ .. I also came up with 2 other solutions.
[23:56] <Guest97876> ok don
[23:56] <Guest97876> done
[23:56] <azizLIGHT> how do i disable the alt menu search when in full screen
[23:56] <granddan> daftykins: what's the recommended amount of Ram for Ubuntu?
[23:56] <azizLIGHT> im playing a game, and when i press alt, it minimizes the game and opens the dash to search for commands. its really disruptive
[23:56] <Craigwell> daftykins: you see, it's beyond a windows problem. It's a drive cloning issue that I cannot resolve with either OS, thank you.
[23:56] <daftykins> granddan: it would depend more on other system specs for standard unity based ubuntu, but i'd not try with less than 4GB
[23:57] <Craigwell> daftykins: is there a hardware oriented channel you can suggest?
[23:57] <daftykins> Craigwell: yeah i remember. ##hardware - but i hear they may eat you alive
[23:57] <Craigwell> daftykins: otherwise, this is merely a light hearted lament. It's amusing to me that it's being this tricky.
[23:57] <EriC^^> Guest97876: ok, press write
[23:58] <daftykins> Craigwell: well that's nice but this is a support channel not really a chat one :)
[23:58] <Craigwell> My next approach is to just install windows fresh on a new drive, and then try to clone my existing ubuntu over - but even that is a major tradeoff for me
[23:58] <Guest97876> write for which one? the efi, bios, or free space?
[23:59] <Craigwell> daftykins: thank you again. I only return with mention of the issue in the thought that perhaps someone else with insight on clonezilla or another method to help me achieve a sucessful clone might be here
[23:59] <daftykins> Craigwell: i've slept since then so forget the details anywho
[23:59] <granddan> daftykins: I tried running it with a virtual machine, giving it 1GB of ram. It ran kinda well, I thought 2GB would be nice
[23:59] <daftykins> granddan: depends on the graphics hardware.
[23:59] <daftykins> granddan: the website actually has system requirements on it


[21:32] <Martyn> what is the Marvell Dove?
[21:36] <ojn> Martyn: I doubt anyone will be able to tell you. :-) It's an unreleased product.
[21:37] <Martyn> Z0, Y0, Y1 .. I'm just trying to figure out which flavor is called the Dove
[21:37]  * Martyn deals with unreleased processors and products all the time.  -laugh-  I'm working with an actual in-hand Cortex A9/quad core chip now.
[21:37] <Martyn> I love the thing.  Even at 400Mhz it's blazing
[21:39] <ojn> Ah. Sorry, can't help you there at the moment.
[21:40] <Martyn> no worries :)
[21:41] <Martyn> It's just nice to see more flavors making into the karmic builds
[21:41] <Martyn> dove, pbx-a9, i.mx51, etc.
[21:42] <ojn> What platform is pbx-a9?
[21:42] <NCommander> ojn, never heard of it
[21:42] <NCommander> Martyn, Marvell Dove is Z0/Y0/Y1 ;-)
[21:42] <ojn> Ah, eval platform for a9
[21:42] <ojn> "PBX-A9 will be a software and hardware development board for Cortex-A9 MPCore"  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arm.com%2Fpdfs%2FRealView_HW_Platforms_Selector_v10.pdf&ei=NOW3SoOQNZGHlAe825j0Dg&usg=AFQjCNE0OHFAmZK2Y1bD0guaSWHb7mHBug&sig2=FQ-dYezRq72Mg_F8zqR9mA
[21:43] <NCommander> Martyn, our images only support Y0, and Y1
[21:51] <Martyn> YOUR images only support it :)
[21:51] <Martyn> -grins-
[21:52] <Martyn> I'm well on my way to having a relatively full Cortex-A9 build
[21:52] <Martyn> once I work out the kinks properly (I still have early boot issues to deal with) I'll start folding them into launchpad
[21:52] <Martyn> assuming permission
[21:55] <Martyn> Can you think of any reasons gcc 3.4.6 would _not_ build?
[21:55] <Martyn> if I just downloaded it and tried doing a make bootstrap?
[22:05] <Martyn> hmm .. that actually worked pretty well
[22:16] <armin76> Martyn: dove is marvell's armv7
[22:17] <armin76> a netbook board i suppose
[22:17] <ericm_> dove is the codename for the processor
[22:18] <ericm_> the SoC
[22:19] <Martyn> arminv7 : I got it zeroed in
[22:19] <Martyn> once I figured out which marvel chip it was
[22:20] <Martyn> I don't have that platform yet :(
[22:20] <Martyn> I have the testchip that ARM made, I have a PBX-a9, and I even have an omap4 now
[22:20] <Martyn> I /need/ one of the samsung chips, but won't get one until Apple stops eating 'em up
[22:21] <Martyn> We're still in the 'it's damned hard to get hands on a multicore chip' stage
[22:21] <Martyn> at least I have three reference platforms now
[22:47] <Martyn> anyone here a u-boot zen master?