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[12:32] <acheronuk> could someone accept the okular binaries please?
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[16:31] <xnox> apw, as my favourite kernel archive admin, could you please RM old nvidia-graphics-driver dkms which FTBFS with the new kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1748000
[16:31] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1748000 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu) "Remove from the archive: this legacy driver is unmaintained upstream" [Critical,Triaged]
[16:36] <xnox> actually i wonder if we need to fix all of nvidia anyway
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, does anybody understand why ppp is not migrating?
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg>     * amd64: freedombox-setup, indicator-network, lubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-gtk-desktop, lubuntu-qt-desktop, network-manager-fortisslvpn, network-manager-fortisslvpn-gnome, network-manager-l2tp, network-manager-l2tp-gnome, network-manager-pptp, network-manager-pptp-gnome, plinth, pppdcapiplugin, pptpd
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg> they are installable to me :/
[16:43] <xnox> sforshee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1748000 maybe you can review the patch mentioned there.
[16:43] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1748000 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu) "Remove from the archive: this legacy driver is unmaintained upstream" [Critical,Triaged]
[16:43] <xnox> i guess, i don't like the patch as is, since it changes the code, and thus the patch should be applied, only conditionally. I like your patches with if LINUX_VERSION_CODE better.
[16:44]  * xnox ponders if I can manage to rework it, to be applicable at all times.
[17:06] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: e.g. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fb9JCmVmkD/
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[17:21] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks Laney |!
[17:21]  * LocutusOfBorg goes looking at it
[17:23] <LocutusOfBorg> oh... we just need to make network-manager migrate, I was picking --proposed this is why I didn't get the break
[17:25] <jbicha> LocutusOfBorg: find an AA to take care of at least fso-gsmd LP: #1718529 for the ppp transition
[17:25] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1718529 in fso-gsmd (Ubuntu) "Please remove fso* packages from Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718529
[17:25] <jbicha> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/ppp.html
[17:26] <LocutusOfBorg> oh thanks :) I was driving crazy, network manager is candidate
[17:26] <LocutusOfBorg> indeed
[17:26] <LocutusOfBorg> tracker wins over britney :)
[17:27] <jbicha> I'm still confused by britney's output but that would get us closer
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[17:32]  * LocutusOfBorg still tries to understand what britney says after all this years, but at least he has the same issue with my wife, and girls in general :)
[17:32] <LocutusOfBorg> s/my/his
[17:43] <acheronuk> could someone please accept okular binaries please?
[18:53] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: I *think* Britney's a "she" ;)
[18:57] <tsimonq2> slangasek, Laney: Can someone please do a Binary NEW review of src:okular in Bionic?
[18:57] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: maybe hold on that
[18:59] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: getting ready to merge that as much as I can with debian, which means a new qml module package
[19:04] <xnox> things migrated \o/ yeah
[19:04] <tsimonq2> \o/
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[19:55] <tsimonq2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/LocalSetup -- seems that the links from people.canonical.com/~pitti are dead...
[19:55] <tsimonq2> Does anyone have copies of these scripts that we can put someplace to fix the links there, or will they have to be written from scratch?
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[17:54] <yano> http://lopsacbus.org/
[17:55] <jenni> [  ] - http://lopsacbus.org
[18:17] <dzho> the "cbus" threw me there for a moment


[09:39] <BockBilbo> perhaps, im using esound now
[09:39] <rel> BockBilbo, so, the issue is that when you logout your gnome session your audio breaks?
[09:39] <BockBilbo> rel, well smthing like that
[09:39] <rel> hmm
[09:39] <BockBilbo> the audio works fine for system events
[09:40] <BockBilbo> but not for rythmbox, beep media player, xine, etc
[09:40] <BockBilbo> :S
[09:40] <thoreauputic> netmonk: an easier way is to add a command at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, but it isn't recommended
[09:40] <rel> BockBilbo, going to test that.
[09:40] <BockBilbo> i have to kill and start again polupaudio
[09:40] <BockBilbo> in order to make it work..
[09:40] <Echylo> damn
[09:40] <Echylo> my screen looks fucked up
[09:40] <albi1> netmonk, copy the start script which should come with the program/daemon into /etc/init.d and then run update-rc <scriptname> defaults
[09:40] <Echylo> trying to run Enemy Territory
[09:41] <BockBilbo> which is a bit anoying if you dont stay in a session
[09:41] <albi1> update-rc --help gives help, btw
[09:41] <albi1> and don't forget to sudo!
[09:42] <netmonk> thank you thoreauputic and albi1 ;)
[09:42] <rel> BockBilbo, no problems at all. logged off gnome and back in. rhythembox still works
[09:42] <thoreauputic> netmonk: heh - sorry that wasn't meant to be a "RTFM" response - but it's pretty straightforward ;)
[09:43] <BockBilbo> rel, ussing polypaudio??
[09:43] <rel> BockBilbo, how to check. using hoary so i must be
[09:43] <Echylo> what do about this error, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:43] <FR500> hello again
[09:43] <Echylo> I think opengl is installed
[09:43] <scizzo> Echylo: hoary?
[09:43] <Echylo> nope
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Echylo: if everything works, ignore it ;)
[09:44] <Echylo> that's the prob
[09:44] <rel> BockBilbo,  2065 ?        Ss     0:11 /usr/bin/polypaudio
[09:44] <FR500> got standby and hibernation to work, now how do i make my Fn keys to work
[09:44] <FR500> any clues?
[09:44] <BockBilbo> oh...
[09:44] <BockBilbo> :S
[09:44] <rel> Im just lucky
[09:44] <Echylo> the game(enemy territory) doesn't launch
[09:44] <BockBilbo> lol
[09:44] <BockBilbo> anyways
[09:44] <tracks> hi guys , any wireles router experts on?
[09:44] <BockBilbo> i think i will switch to polypaudio later on time
[09:45] <Echylo> I'm wireless, I have a router but I'm totally not an expert :p
[09:45] <tracks> :)
[09:45] <El_Che> FR500: have a look in /var/log/acpid
[09:45] <rel> tracks, just ask your question
[09:45] <Echylo> yea
[09:45] <Echylo> some1 will answer
[09:45] <tracks> k
[09:45] <El_Che> FR500: do the fn combination and have a look there if its registered
[09:46] <tracks> got the router all working but now & again i have to reset power in order for it to connect
[09:46] <rel> Tsjoklat, do you have any clues on why polyaudio does work normaly on my system?
[09:46] <Seazzy> Does anyone know about processor requirements for ubuntu?
[09:46] <El_Che> tracks: open system, wep, wpa?
[09:46] <tracks> yep
[09:46] <Echylo> Seazzy, it works fine on a P2 433mhz here
[09:46] <vi11e> what was the command that I could use to see if I am using ati or fglrx drivers?
[09:47] <Echylo> that's only thing I can say about it
[09:47] <Echylo> so you could try lower
[09:47] <rel> Echylo, you should upgrade dude
[09:47] <netmonk> thoreauputic, i it tells me that I don't have the file doesn't exist in /etc/init.d. how do I add the file there?
[09:47] <Seazzy> I am running it on a celeron, and it keeps crashing
[09:47] <Echylo> you gonna send me money?
[09:47] <Echylo> I'm 17, still school so
[09:47] <Echylo> and no work
[09:47] <Echylo> only in vacations
[09:47] <feliXDZ___> Hi I am trying to get the ubuntu live cd to connect to the internet with casema.nl adsl.
[09:47] <rel> Echylo, whats your bankaccount
[09:48] <Echylo> haha
[09:48] <feliXDZ___> Anybody know how?
[09:48] <rel> :P
[09:48] <Echylo> for 1s I thought you were serious :p
[09:48] <tracks> very helpful.............not lol
[09:48] <rel> hehe
[09:48] <Echylo> tracks
[09:48] <Echylo> you just said yes
[09:49] <Echylo> he asked , opensystem, wpa or wep
[09:49] <Echylo> what do you use
[09:49] <rel> where you had to choose
[09:49] <thoreauputic> netmonk: what are you trying to start?
[09:49] <tracks> trust turbo wireless
[09:49] <Echylo> trust
[09:49] <Echylo> don't
[09:49] <Echylo> but that's personal
[09:49] <netmonk> fnfxd
[09:49] <Echylo> you can connect though?
[09:49] <tracks> sure
[09:49] <Echylo> brb
[09:50] <netmonk> it unables me to use the fn key on my toshiba
[09:50] <netmonk> if i type fnfxd it works
[09:50] <thoreauputic> netmonk: I know nothing about it, sorry - but surely the docs or README tell you how to get it going?
[09:51] <thoreauputic> netmonk: I suggest you try `sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh` , add fnfxd at the end of that file, save and reboot to checjk that it works
[09:52] <thoreauputic> netmonk: not the recommended way, but it should work fine
[09:53] <thoreauputic> put the command on a separate line at the bottom of that file
[09:53] <isengard> buenas tardes
[09:53] <isengard> desde argentina
[09:53] <nomasteryoda> hola
[09:53] <isengard> gentes una consulta sobre vmware
[09:53] <nomasteryoda> mi espanol es rusty
[09:53] <guptan> how can I enable pango support in firefox?
[09:54] <nomasteryoda> vmware i know
[09:54] <thoreauputic> netmonk: did you get that? Was it clear to you ?
[09:54] <netmonk> thoreauputic, how about if i make a link in /etc/init.d to /usr/local/sbin/fnfxd
[09:54] <nomasteryoda> bbl
[09:54] <TraceyTux> Can you help me use my USB pen drive?  I've already created a file called sda1 in my mnt/ directory, but I still can't use the USB drive!!
[09:54] <CarlK> where is a good place to put a bunch of rmmod commands that will be run at the end of bootting?
[09:54] <isengard> no encunstra el /usr/src/linux/include
[09:54] <guptan> TraceyTux, how u mounted it?
[09:54] <netmonk> and than update-rc.d
[09:55] <thoreauputic> netmonk: I think my suggestion is simpler and will work for you
[09:55] <isengard> y ya baje el source del kernel con apt-get y tb hise el link ln -s linux-source-<IP_ADDRESS> linux pero nada
[09:55] <CarlK> trans_err - type lsusb - see if it says anything interesting
[09:55] <thoreauputic> netmonk: that would probably work as well
[09:55] <guptan> I wud like to have pango support for firefox, how can I enable pango?
[09:55] <netmonk> ok, thoreauputic, thank you very much
[09:55] <TraceyTux> guptan: I did sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1
[09:56] <CarlK> TraceyTux - that was a mistake (mkdir...sda1)
[09:56] <guptan> TraceyTux, that won't help, mount your usb disc with proper mount options
[09:56] <thoreauputic> netmonk: I've used the bootmisc.sh hack to start dma for instance, and it worked fine
[09:56] <CarlK> TraceyTux - oh wait... mnt.. I was thinking /dev/sda1... nm
[09:57] <TraceyTux> Ok, how do I mount it?
[09:57] <CarlK> TraceyTux prettu sure hotplug should have mounted it for you
[09:57] <TraceyTux> Well, it didn't!
[09:57] <CarlK> TraceyTux - lsusb -  is the device listed?
[09:59] <isengard> alguien tuvo el mismo problema que yo?
[09:59] <TraceyTux> It says Belkin - that's my USB hub, I use that for my USB pen drive because I don't have any USB ports at the front of my PC case
[09:59] <CarlK> TraceyTux - I think that means you have a problem that you need to solve before you worry about mounting it
[09:59] <El_Che> TraceyTux: try to see if hotplug see it when you put it in the back?
[10:05] <netmonk> thoreauputic, my last line in bootmisc.sh sais : exit 0
[10:05] <netmonk> thoreauputic, do i put fnfxd under that line?
[10:05] <CarlK> netmonk - i would gess before
[10:06] <CarlK> exit 0 will exit the script and not run anything after it
[10:06] <thoreauputic> netmonk: heh - yes, put it *above* that line :)
[10:07] <netmonk> just did it, will see what happens now ;)
[10:07] <thoreauputic> should work (famous last words ...)
[10:09] <BockBilbo> im leavig
[10:09] <BockBilbo> bye!
[10:09] <Jeremy_D> WOW i cant believe it, i was sucked into a game on linux
[10:09] <Jeremy_D> wow
[10:10] <Jeremy_D> armagetron
[10:10] <Jeremy_D> simalur to tron for windows
[10:10] <TraceyTux> No, I don't I think I can see it in lusb - I've removed my USB hub - now it just says "bash: lusb: command not found"
[10:11] <CarlK> lsusb
[10:11] <CarlK> ls is like ls, and usb is for usb ;)
[10:11] <CarlK> Jeremy_D - tron like the old movie?
[10:13] <TraceyTux> Yes - I'd typed it in wrongly! Anyway, lsusb says "M-Systems Flash Disk Pioneers" - my drive is a Disgo 1Gb drive
[10:14] <CarlK> TraceyTux - good.
[10:14] <CarlK> TraceyTux see what mount says
[10:14] <CarlK> or df
[10:14] <TraceyTux> What do I need to type in with mount
[10:15] <CarlK> the word mount ;)
[10:15] <BrianAnthony> why am I getting no sound from audio files, bu tI can get sound from movie sjust fine?
[10:15] <TraceyTux> mount doesn't mention sda1 at all
[10:16] <thoreauputic> BrianAnthony: what kind of audio files? If mp3, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:16] <CarlK> TraceyTux - next step: dmesg
[10:16] <dubwav> I'm unable to remove a package, because I accidentally removed one file belonging to it...how can I force apt-get to remove it?
[10:16] <CarlK> TraceyTux - don;t worry about all the stuff you missed, only care about the last few lines
[10:16] <BrianAnthony> thoreauputic: any audio. like cd's or mp3's
[10:16] <rel> man...! trying to compile a kernel with kpkg, I use the --initrd switch. Now it complains that it cannot find cramfs and if iam sure to continue with it. Have checked the menuconfig but no option for cramfs. Is it wise to skip initrd and compile everything in?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> see above re  gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:18] <thoreauputic> BrianAnthony: that package enables eg. rhythmbox music player to decode mp3
[10:18] <TraceyTux> dmesg gives Buffer I/O errors for sda1
[10:19] <CarlK> i wonder what that is about
[10:19] <juanfra> hola
[10:19] <BrianAnthony> thoreauputic: XMMS still won't play it
[10:20] <BrianAnthony> well it'll play it
[10:20] <BrianAnthony> but there's no sound
[10:20] <thoreauputic> BrianAnthony: have you configured XMMS? choose the plugin in prefs and config it
[10:21] <TraceyTux> I'm wondering what the buffer I/O errors are about!
[10:21] <guptan> how can I enable pango support in Firefox? (for indic font support)
[10:21] <thoreauputic> BrianAnthony: also if your CDs won't play, you may need to enable digital play for the CD plugin ( many machines lack a wire from cd-rom to sound card)
[10:23] <thoreauputic> BrianAnthony: and the default cd player won't do digital - you need to use xmms or beep-media-player
[10:23] <thoreauputic> (if that's the problem)
[10:23] <shock> one thing i am missing under ubuntu on my powerbook - the ability to launch a quick game of wc3 or q3a or something
[10:24] <neighborlee> shock, q3a ?
[10:24] <neighborlee> shock, not working right ?
[10:24] <vi11e> tell me what multimedia players are available from apt-get other than xine,xmms and totem player?
[10:24] <Jeremy_D> i need to burn a data cd, whats a basic burner?
[10:24] <neighborlee> shock, you dont need wc3..lol..there are tons of good quality games for linux albeit I feel for you..it seems popular ;-)...just use what games we DO have and youll be fine
[10:25] <shock> for linux, yes
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: nautilus has one built in
[10:25] <neighborlee> shock, if you like wc3 you will likely enjoy for example ut2k4 or nwn or savage for example..
[10:25] <shock> for osx, yes
[10:25] <shock> but for linux powerpc
[10:25] <shock> *sigh*
[10:25] <Jeremy_D> thoreauputic, i havent been able to get it going for some odd reason
[10:25] <shock> and I wont enjoy those truly great games when not having DRI
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: Places -> CD Creator
[10:25] <neighborlee> shock, hmmm have little experience with powerpc ;(
[10:26] <Jeremy_D> places?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> drag files there, and burn
[10:26] <neighborlee> shock, ouch no you wont
[10:26] <shock> ;)
[10:26] <Jeremy_D> where is places? lol
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: in the file manager
[10:26] <Necrosan> linux ppc is trash
[10:26] <jesuel> burning array-5 hoary now :)
[10:26] <shock> maybe i'll install ubuntu on virtualpc
[10:26] <shock> :P
[10:26] <Necrosan> it needs to be destroyed by a meat grinder
[10:26] <shock> lol
[10:26] <Necrosan> im serious man
[10:26] <shock> no - it needs to be upgraded by a great community
[10:26] <thoreauputic> file - edit -view - places (a the top)
[10:26] <Jeremy_D> how do i get to the file manager?
[10:26] <Necrosan> its like horrible, nvidia cards cant even be DRI'd
[10:27] <Jeremy_D> oh
[10:27] <Necrosan> and it has no good games.. nope.. no good games
[10:27] <Necrosan> lol
[10:27] <Necrosan> what a clever nickname, windosuninstall
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: click the home icon under Computer (in Warty)
[10:27] <neighborlee> lol
[10:27] <Jeremy_D> yes got it open now... where i was earlier
[10:27] <Jeremy_D> but i cant get it going from there
[10:27] <shock> lol
[10:28] <Jeremy_D> i have files there, waiting to be burned.. but when: file, write to disc it gives me an error message
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: Fiel -Write to disc
[10:28] <thoreauputic> *file
[10:28] <shock> actually... gaming is not ALL that important... but at this time of a day
[10:28] <Jeremy_D> no selected files...
[10:28] <Jeremy_D> but i have files in it...
[10:28] <thoreauputic> so select them
[10:28] <thoreauputic> !
[10:29] <Jeremy_D> i have though
[10:29] <thoreauputic> hmm
[10:29] <Necrosan> shock: stick ubuntu up your ass and never think of it again
[10:29] <Necrosan> im warning you. you will be hurt
[10:29] <shock> lol
[10:29] <Jeremy_D> it says this "you need to copy the files you want to write to disc to the CD/DVD creator window. (Which i already did.) Would you like to open it now? and i click open CD... yadda yadda
[10:29] <shock> no actually I'm doing really great using ubuntu here
[10:29] <shock> :P
[10:30] <shock> finally a real working os on my powerbook
[10:30] <Jeremy_D> shock, yeah me too :)
[10:30] <shock> :P
[10:30] <Jeremy_D> powerbook, i would have stuck with osx
[10:30] <shock> one thing I am lacking under osx is far more severe then no games: no decent way to configure the keyboard
[10:30] <shock> *grml*
[10:30] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: you have permission on those files? they are yours and not system files or something?
[10:31] <shock> if osx had the power of a simple xmodmap file
[10:31] <shock> ...
[10:31] <shock> now that would be something
[10:31] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: actually I find Linux more powerful and useful on my iBook than OS-X
[10:31] <AndyR> how do i format a usb drive?
[10:32] <Jeremy_D> err i was able to use os x on my ibook very easily, i just didnt like it because it ran a bit too slow
[10:32] <dtygel> hi all.
[10:32] <Jeremy_D> i still cant get this sucker to burn
[10:32] <Jeremy_D> i have replaced it with a file i know is mine...
[10:32] <thoreauputic> OS-X looks pretty, but the way the files are organised is ... odd
[10:32] <dtygel> I'm having troubles mounting a partition on startup through /etc/fstab. Can someone help me there?
[10:33] <Jeremy_D> dtygel, do you know the location of your partition?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> dtygel: put the line from fstab up and let us see it
 <-- actually i "fixed" my osx to look like my linux and the way the files are organized....
[10:33] <shock> blah
[10:33] <Jeremy_D> err
[10:34] <Jeremy_D> my current system looks like osx :)
[10:34] <shock> lol
[10:34] <thoreauputic> shock: yeah, I fiddled too - but it isn't worth it in my opinion - and the apps available from Fink etc are usually outdated
[10:34] <Jeremy_D> once i figured out how to install themes... it was on :D anyone want to see a screen shot?
[10:34] <Jeremy_D> i plan on getting the docker, i just cant remember the name of it
[10:34] <Jeremy_D> lol
[10:34] <shock> yeah... but at least fink has a decent xchat
[10:35] <dtygel> the line is the following: /dev/hda4
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: re CD burner - you might try installing xcdroast - it doesn't look very pretty but it does the job
[10:35] <dtygel> the line is the following /dev/hda4   /frutos   /vfat   /iocharset=iso8859-1,auto,users,rw   0   2
[10:36] <thoreauputic> shock: theres an acqua xchat as well
[10:36] <dtygel> had problems with fsck...
[10:36] <dtygel> something like "long filenames"...
[10:36] <shock> yeah... but the aqua xchat stinks
[10:36] <thoreauputic> dtygel: why the / before iocharset?
[10:36] <Jeremy_D> thoreauputic, thanks :) i will
[10:36] <dtygel> sorry, there is no /
[10:37] <dtygel> I misstyped it
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dtygel: OK
[10:37] <dtygel> what could be wrong?
[10:37] <Jeremy_D> darn it cant find the dependant packages
[10:37] <dtygel> it mounts without trouble.
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dtygel: I take it th e/ before vfat is also a typo?
[10:38] <dtygel> let me see...
[10:38] <dtygel> yes let me repeat the line correctly:
[10:38] <thoreauputic> it shouldn't be there...
[10:38] <Jeremy_D> any other suggestions for cd burners?
[10:38] <dtygel> It is: /dev/hda4       /frutos         vfat    iocharset=iso8859-1,auto,users,rw 0       1
[10:38] <thoreauputic> just copy paste it
[10:38] <thoreauputic> k
[10:39] <dtygel> (got the copy-paste: i'm new to ubuntu)
[10:39] <dtygel> (started it today...)
[10:39] <vi11e> how can I change that "current encoding" being from default encoding in gnome terminal window?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> I don't really follow why you need to specify iocharset ...
[10:41] <dtygel> It's because i'm brazilian: we use accents (, etc...)
[10:42] <dtygel> And the /dev/hda4 partition will be shared with windows users.
[10:42] <thoreauputic> vi11e: Terminal-> Set Character Encodings ?
[10:43] <dtygel> some clue on the fstab stuff? something to do with the fsck command during boot.
[10:43] <thoreauputic> dtygel: what errors do you see if you try  mount  /frutos ?
[10:43] <dtygel> no errors at all. It works just fine.
[10:44] <dtygel> During boot, fsck gives up!
[10:44] <thoreauputic> you set "users" so that should work
[10:44] <vi11e> it won't allow me to remove the "current locale UTF-8" and always I open a new terminal it will open with that encoding thoreauputic
[10:44] <thoreauputic> ah - try  0 0 instead of 0 2
[10:44] <dtygel> ok, I'll try it.
[10:44] <kbrooks> OK. I ave a vital question
[10:45] <Beertje|GONE> shoot ;)
[10:45] <vi11e> thoreauputic: you know where I could change my whole system encodings ?
[10:45] <dtygel> There is another problem: As user, I don't have the rights to right, although I put "users" and "rw" options! Why?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> vi11e: hmm - maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[10:45] <dtygel> It doesnt even recognize the directories. Only when I'm as root in nautilus can I see the directories.
[10:46] <kbrooks> kyle@family:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ez-ipupdate start
[10:46] <kbrooks> Starting Dynamic DNS client: no .conf file in /etc/ez-ipupdate.
[10:46] <kbrooks> Wtf? Why do I get that?
[10:46] <dtygel> ooops: the "rights to write", and not "to right" :)
[10:46] <Jeremy_D> whats a good copy of winamp for linux?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: try dpkg-reconfigure ez-ipupdate, and choose automatic config by debconf, answer the questions
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: xmms, beep-media-player
[10:47] <kbrooks> dtygel, check the permission of the actual directory you mounted your partition under
[10:47] <thoreauputic> beep looks better but has less options
[10:47] <Beertje|GONE> Jeremy_D, xmms is winamp it's practicly the same
[10:48] <dtygel> ok: I'll take a look now...
[10:49] <kbrooks> finally.
[10:49] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: my guess is you chose the wrong option on install ( ez-ipupdate) I did the same.. ;)
[10:49] <kbrooks> thoreauputic, thanks. where's your site ;)
[10:49] <dtygel> magic! I cannot change the permissions, even as root! When I click on the square, the check-mark appears ad suddenly disappears again: it stays always as 744!
[10:49] <Jeremy_D> thanks, what is the main player though, there are so many different things on xmms
[10:49] <dtygel> didn't get it at all...
[10:50] <Beertje|GONE> Jeremy_D, you can apt-get it
[10:50] <Beertje|GONE> i will give you the command
[10:50] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: heh - it's kind of mostly not linux :)  http://interlink.webhop.org
[10:50] <vi11e> hmm thanks thoreauputic ...
[10:50] <Beertje|GONE> sudo apt-get install xmms
[10:50] <Jeremy_D> Beertje|GONE, okay :)
[10:50] <Rocha> Hello, I can't download nothing from merillat
[10:50] <Rocha> Synaptic always says "Failed", any idea why?
[10:51] <glyf> Hi everyone - I have a laptop dual-booting Hoary and XP Home, and I am having some trouble with the clock
[10:51] <kbrooks> thoreauputic, heh.
[10:51] <glyf> what is the package I have to reconfigure to adjust Hoary's idea of whether the hardware clock is set to GMT or not?
[10:51] <kbrooks> run base-config.
[10:52] <kbrooks> sudo base-config
[10:52] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: you looked at the site?
[10:52] <dtygel> glyf: this question appears in the beginning of the install, just run again base-config
[10:52] <kbrooks> thoreauputic, i like it.
[10:52] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: thanks :)
[10:52] <Pluk> i love this! composite rox!
[10:52] <kbrooks> yay,
[10:53] <kbrooks> Non-authoritative answer:
[10:53] <kbrooks> Name:   kyleb.ath.cx
[10:53] <kbrooks> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:53] <glyf> dtygel: OK
[10:53] <kbrooks> works,
[10:53] <nomed^> hi .... kubuntu?
[10:53] <kbrooks> nomed^, you want kde.
[10:53] <CarlK> "ESS AudioDrive ES18xx soundcard not found or device busy" - details http://paste.phpfi.com/51552
[10:53] <nomed^> kbrooks: i was thinking on it
[10:54] <kbrooks> nomed^, DO YOU WANT KDE?
[10:54] <nomed^> kbrooks: why not?
[10:54] <kbrooks> nomed^, it is in ubuntu hoary. try sudo apt-get install kde
[10:55] <dtygel> thoreauputic: do you have any clue on the permissions thing?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> kbrooks: looks like you have some apache config to do ;)
[10:55] <nomed^> kbrooks: so the mirrors for kubuntu and ubuntu are the same
[10:55] <Jeremy_D> what is composite
[10:55] <Pluk> shadows and transparent windows
[10:55] <kbrooks> nomed^, yes
[10:56] <glyf> dtygel: Is there any way I can tell Windows to do this?
[10:56] <kbrooks> thoreauputic, heh.
[10:56] <thoreauputic> dtygel: not really, sorry - I can show you the line I have for Win XP in my /etc/fstab if you like
[10:56] <dtygel> nice: i'd like to see it.
[10:56] <kbrooks> nomed^, i doubt it is in ubuntu warty, but you could TRY
[10:56] <glyf> dtygel: Thanks for the pointer, by the way.  It fixed the clock w/ hibernate (finally)
[10:56] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda1       /mnt/winXP      ntfs    noauto,users,exec,ro,uid=peter,gid=peter 0 0
[10:57] <thoreauputic> my user name is peter, obviously
[10:57] <dtygel> glyf: I simply gave up giving gmt time in ubuntu. Then everything was ok. I didn't touch windows...
[10:57] <Jeremy_D> when i open beep-media-player in terminal, i cant close terminal without having to close beep-media-player, why?
[10:57] <Pluk> Jeremy_D, http://www.freedesktop.org/~jg/R6.8/sco-xorg.jpg
[10:57] <Jeremy_D> cant i just open beep-media-player?
[10:57] <dtygel> thor: did you succesfully put permissions 777 in /mnt/winXP?
[10:57] <glyf> dtygel: I would like to just use non-GMT time in Ubuntu as well
[10:58] <kbrooks> dtygel,
[10:58] <farruinn> Jeremy_D: it should be in your "multimedia" menu
[10:58] <kbrooks> errr
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: isn't beep in your menu?
[10:58] <glyf> dtygel: but when I try it, every time I hibernate ubuntu, my clock is screwed up by my GMT diff x2
[10:58] <farruinn> Jeremy_D: if not, you can create a new launcher
[10:58] <Jeremy_D> nope
[10:58] <dtygel> glyf: well, then the trouble is in windows. Must do some research in internet... :'(
[10:58] <Jeremy_D> oh okay
[10:58] <kbrooks> dtygel, does he have to?
[10:58] <Jeremy_D> i will try
[10:58] <Jeremy_D> i like that screen shot
[10:58] <Jeremy_D> i need to get the docker and i will be set :D
[10:59] <thoreauputic> dtygel: drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 2005-02-11 15:38 winXP
[10:59] <thoreauputic> 755 I believe
[10:59] <Jeremy_D> when creating the launcher, do i put beep-media-player in the command box?
[10:59] <farruinn> Pluk: you need to put close, min, max on the left yet ;)
[10:59] <dtygel> kbrooks: I wand /dev/hda4 to be open in our local net: 777...
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: yes
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> wow
[11:00] <dtygel> ok: 755 is ok too, since we will not run anything in this device...
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> that was easy!
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> thank you!
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> wow
[11:00] <glyf> dtygel: speaking of hibernate, time to do so :)
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> awesome
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> shite
[11:00] <vi11e> anyone have a clue what might be my problem with my dcgui-qt. Everytime I run it, the terminal floods loads of errors and all the personal information fields are blank, other words... it doesn't know where to look for my information obviously?
[11:00] <Pluk> farruinn, its not my screenshot :)
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Jeremy_D: and click the blank icon to choose an icon
[11:00] <shock> ok - now im back under osx
[11:00] <Pluk> but i have it right too though :)
[11:00] <Jeremy_D> yeah got that
[11:00] <shock> now I need a tool to remap my keyboard
[11:01] <farruinn> Pluk: :D
[11:01] <dtygel> maybe it's impossible to create a directory in "/" and set 755 permissions to it? I'll check it right now.
[11:01] <Jeremy_D> shock, it has that stuff built in and its easy
[11:01] <thoreauputic> dtygel: no
[11:01] <Jeremy_D> shock, what exactly are you wanting to do?
[11:01] <shock> ok - several things
[11:01] <Pluk> vi11e, its a bug
[11:01] <shock> i want (what ucontrol can do):
[11:01] <Pluk> its fixed in 0.3.5
[11:01] <shock> swap arounf alt,apple and control
[11:01] <Pluk> but ubuntu doesnt have 0.3.5 yet
[11:02] <shock> no problem so far
[11:02] <vi11e> pluk, ok...
[11:02] <shock> but I also want: fn+left to be "beginning of line" and fn+right "end of line"
[11:02] <qlo-xael> Hi, I'm trying to configure a kernel, when i try to run 'make menuconfig' i get the error that the Ncurses libraries are not installed.  How do i install these?
[11:02] <shock> and I want Control to be forward delete
[11:02] <dtygel> I got it! We can only change permissions while unmounted... It now worked.
[11:02] <kbrooks> qlo-xael, apt-get it?
[11:02] <shock> thats about the most important
[11:02] <Jeremy_D> shock, i dont understand you lol good luck
[11:03] <Pluk> qlo-xael, you need libncurses5-dev
[11:03] <Jeremy_D> but i do think it has a good customization feature, with the keyboard and things
[11:03] <shock> but I wouldnt mind getting | and {} and []  to the PC-places
[11:03] <Jeremy_D> i dont know if you can actually reassign things, but im sure it might be posible
[11:03] <vi11e> where should I check for information about when 0.3.5. might be available for ubuntu?
[11:03] <shock> im still looking for a way
[11:03] <dtygel> glyf: I hope you can solve the problem. I didn't get it exactly.
[11:03] <qlo-xael> Pluk: so i type: apt-get install libncurses5-dev ?
[11:03] <Pluk> yeah qlo-xael
[11:04] <dtygel> The clock went messed up after hibernating ubuntu?
[11:04] <shock> its a real pain when used to pc keyboards and having to use pc keyboards all the time
[11:04] <Pluk> vi11e, get  the source from : http://dcgui.berlios.de/index.php and compile it yourself
[11:05] <vi11e> pluk, naah, I am a total newbie, I have lots of things I should fix but I don't even bother to start asking them all here :I
[11:06] <Pluk> :D
[11:06] <Pluk> you learn a lot from it though
[11:06] <HansKaiser> hi
[11:07] <vi11e> one is that I get error "perl:setting locale failed" now even when I uninstalled dcgui-qt it mentioned about that... weird
[11:07] <qlo-xael> Pluk: do you know offhand if ncurses comes with the warty ubuntu installation?
[11:07] <vi11e> and I couldn't change my finnish keyboard layout really :S
[11:07] <Pluk> dunno qlo-xael
[11:07] <Pluk> try apt-cache search libncurses dev
[11:07] <dtygel> I'll try your suggestions about fstab right now,
[11:07] <Pluk> thatll give you some
[11:07] <farruinn> qlo-xael: 'apt-cache show [package]  | grep Status'
[11:08] <dtygel> cya
[11:09] <Rocha> I can't download nothing from merillat
[11:09] <Rocha> Synaptic always says "Failed", any idea why?
[11:10] <shock> ukelele might be what I want!
[11:10] <shock> *hopes*
[11:10] <hikaru79> Rocha, Hoary or Warty?
[11:10] <Necrosan> rocha is the new name of it?
[11:10] <Necrosan> the newest alpha build
[11:10] <Necrosan> oh nm, Rocha
[11:10] <Necrosan> lol
[11:11] <Rocha> hikaru79, hoary
[11:11] <Rocha> Necrosan, :D :D
[11:12] <farruinn> Rocha: does it say failed when you hit "reload" or when you try to install something?
[11:12] <Rocha> farruinn, when reloading
[11:12] <farruinn> are you absolutely sure that your repository entry is correct?
[11:12] <Rocha> I copy-pasted from ubuntuguide
[11:13] <thenuke> umm, can I clone ubuntu installed into my laptop to another desktop PC?
[11:13] <Rocha> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[11:13] <Rocha> right?
[11:13] <vi11e> hey, how come there is no package limwire
[11:13] <farruinn> ok, first of all ubuntuguide is primarily for warty
[11:13] <Jeremy_D> thenuke, i have thought the same thing...
[11:13] <Jeremy_D> i dont feel like setting up a whole new system, once i get my laptop going...
[11:13] <Rocha> farruinn, i just want the codecs for divx and dvd
[11:14] <farruinn> Rocha: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:14] <Jeremy_D> i had troubles with isntallation...
[11:14] <thenuke> Jeremy_D: yep :I I bet that it could be copied
[11:14] <Rocha> farruinn, that site says that i have to download them from merillat
[11:14] <Jeremy_D> things failed once, id try again and they would work, which is weird
[11:14] <Jeremy_D> thenuke, yeah i am sure its possible
[11:14] <brap> I want to install gdm but when I use apt-get it also wants to install 2 alsa packages.  Is there a way to install gdm without the dependencies?
[11:14] <farruinn> Rocha: yes, and it also says specifically what your sources.list entry should be for hoary
[11:15] <Rocha> farruinn, unstable
[11:15] <bascule> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts
[11:15] <Rocha> i added all of them
[11:15] <farruinn> Rocha: in synaptic or directly into /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <Rocha> in synaptic
[11:16] <brap> I want to install gdm but when I use apt-get it also wants to install 2 alsa packages.  Is there a way to install gdm without the dependencies?
[11:16] <farruinn> Rocha: if you did a copy-paste I'd bet you got the entire line into the URI field...
[11:16] <farruinn> brap: we heard you the first time.  why would you want to do that?
[11:17] <brap> farruinn: because I don't need the alsa packages
[11:17] <Rocha> farruinn, nop :)
[11:17] <Rocha> farruinn, i erased the "deb" and the other stuff
[11:18] <farruinn> Rocha: :/ don't know what to tell you then except that maybe stable doesn't exist
[11:18] <farruinn> you should just have the unstable one, not the other two
[11:18] <Rocha> ok
[11:18] <Rocha> i'll try again
[11:19] <shadeofgrey> your never going to believe this guys
[11:19] <kbrooks> huh
[11:19] <shadeofgrey> i actually got ubuntu horay to install!  im using it right now!
[11:19] <blahrus> way to go shadeofgrey
[11:20] <shadeofgrey> now i need help
[11:20] <farruinn> congrats, but I believe you of course :D
[11:20] <shadeofgrey> to make sure things are okay
[11:20] <shadeofgrey> first of all...  in Fedora i had to download special drivers to get my nvidia to display fonts properly and shit.  do i still need to do that?  i dont hace the same font problems
[11:21] <HrdwrBoB> shadeofgrey: you can install the nvidia binary drivers if you want 3d
[11:21] <farruinn> shadeofgrey: I want you to think very carefully about what you just asked :)
[11:21] <HrdwrBoB> (assuming you haven't installed them already)
[11:22] <Rocha> farruinn, still fails :(
[11:22] <shadeofgrey> second of all and most importantly - when I booted the LiveCD i automatically had the ability to see my windows partition in the filemanager and now i cant how do i set that up?  because all my mp3's are on my win32 partition?
[11:22] <Rocha> i'll go back to fedora, i can't use this if i can't watch dvd's
[11:22] <shadeofgrey> and im going to go NUTS if i cant have my tunes
[11:23] <Cerb|AFK> Rocha, why is that
[11:23] <Rocha> Cerb|AFK, i can't load the packages from marillat
[11:23] <Cerb|AFK> http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[11:23] <Rocha> synaptic always fails why reloading the packages
[11:23] <Cerb|AFK> that is not working?
[11:23] <Rocha> nop, i don't know why
[11:23] <Cerb|AFK> weird
[11:24] <thoreauputic> dialup disconnect :(
[11:24] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, well
[11:24] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, are you ready to edit text files? ;)
[11:25] <Rocha> Cerb|AFK, i'll try adding the line on the text file, without synaptic
[11:25] <shadeofgrey> sure
[11:25] <Cerb|AFK> yes you can try that
[11:25] <Cerb|AFK> school in 6hours pffffffffff
[11:25] <Cerb|AFK> off to bed :)))
[11:25] <kbrooks> oops
[11:25] <kbrooks> ok
[11:26] <kbrooks> what is your windows partition seen in windows as?
[11:26] <kbrooks> the drive letter?
[11:26] <Cerb|AFK> hda
[11:26] <kbrooks> Cerb|AFK, NOT YOU!
[11:26] <Cerb|AFK> lol
[11:26] <Cerb|AFK> sorryyyyy :p
[11:27] <Cerb|AFK> why the hell do u ask it then ;)
[11:27] <thor|afk> Cerb|AFK: heh - get some sleep ;)
[11:27] <shadeofgrey> hda -- its known as C:\
[11:27] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey,
[11:27] <kbrooks> well,
[11:27] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, ok. sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:28] <shadeofgrey> i type that in a terminal window?
[11:28] <kbrooks> yes
[11:28] <kbrooks> so add this to the bottom:
[11:28] <shadeofgrey> okay wait
[11:29] <kbrooks> ( ) /dev/hda1 /mnt/mountpoint fat32 rw,user 0 2
[11:29] <kbrooks> note: delete the ( )
[11:29] <shadeofgrey> its not fat32
[11:29] <shadeofgrey> its NTFS
[11:29] <kbrooks> ntfs
[11:30] <kbrooks> (lowercase)
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> where do i type that though?  im in a really weird window
[11:30] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: it's an editor
[11:30] <shadeofgrey> okay wait i get it
[11:30] <thoreauputic> navigate with arrow keys
[11:30] <kbrooks> ^ means control.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> instructions on the bottom line
[11:31] <kbrooks> nano is really easy to use
[11:32] <kbrooks> thats why i use nano all the time
[11:32] <shadeofgrey> okay...  so i go to the bottom and type "/dev/hda /mnt/mountpoint ntfs r, user 0 2"
[11:32] <kbrooks> ew
[11:32] <kbrooks> yeah
[11:32] <kbrooks> rw*
[11:32] <kbrooks> and say:
[11:32] <kbrooks> rw,user
[11:32] <kbrooks> instead of
[11:32] <kbrooks> rw user
[11:32] <shadeofgrey> because i just want to be able to read.. i dont want to be able to write to the disk
[11:32] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: /mnt/mountpoint dhould be *your* mountpoint
[11:33] <thoreauputic> ie /mnt/mountpoint must exist...
[11:33] <shadeofgrey> okay so what do i call the mountpoint
[11:33] <kbrooks> all entries in the file are seperated by whitespace
[11:33] <kbrooks> tabs or spaces will do
[11:33] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: do you have an existing directory in mnt?
[11:34] <shadeofgrey> i have no idea what your asking when you say that thor
[11:34] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, and REMEMBER to chmod that directory to 644.
[11:34] <Rocha> farruinn, i really can't donwload the marillat packages :(
[11:34] <Rocha> farruinn, back to fedora :(
[11:34] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, sudo mkdir -p /mnt/mountpoint (fill in mountpoint)
[11:34] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, and then
[11:34] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: umm OK - well you need a directory to "mount" to before you edit that file
[11:34] <shadeofgrey> okay wait
[11:35] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:35] <thoreauputic> ctrl - x to escape nano
[11:35] <kbrooks> edit as necessary
[11:35] <kbrooks> exit
[11:35] <shadeofgrey> the directory i want to mount is c:\mp3 and all its sub directories
[11:35] <kbrooks> well
[11:36] <Rocha> farruinn, i'll try installing totem-xine
[11:36] <shadeofgrey> would it be easier if i just copied them all to my ubuntu partition?  its only 67 gigs of data - and the partition i put ubuntu in has 189 free
[11:36] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, yes and no.
[11:36] <bascule> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ <-- those are OK as apt sources I presume?
[11:36] <kbrooks> it is easy.
[11:36] <shadeofgrey> okay im out of nano
[11:37] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, now do
[11:37] <kbrooks> sudo mount /mnt/mountpoint
[11:37] <kbrooks> (fill in mountpoint)
[11:37] <Schaap> So is webcam support crap in ubuntu or just linux in general
[11:37] <thenuke> where did the mozilla-flashplayer package go :o
[11:37] <sri> hey does anybody know how to get jabberd working on ubuntu?
[11:37] <tidalwav1> hi, room, I have a problem
[11:37] <sri> I'm having some trouble trying to gt it to work
[11:38] <sri> it won't accept any connections
[11:38] <tidalwav1> I tried changing all of my references to hoary in /etc/apt/sources.listy
[11:38] <tidalwav1> *sources.list
[11:38] <shadeofgrey> how do i make c:\mp3 a mountpoint?
[11:38] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, and it *should* work.
[11:38] <tidalwav1> and I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:38] <kbrooks> shadeofgrey, you cant. not directly.
[11:38] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you don't
[11:38] <tidalwav1> and now apt-get is choking on some gimp packages
[11:38] <kbrooks> tidalwav1, pm?
[11:38] <tidalwav1> the upgrade isn't working
[11:38] <Schaap> Can ubuntu use drivers provided for windows?
[11:38] <tritium> has anyone tried mythtv on powerpc?  If so, what tuner card did you use?
[11:38] <Schaap> dll files
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Schaap: in general, no
[11:39] <Schaap> aha
[11:39] <Schaap> so webcam support is crap
[11:39] <thoreauputic> dll files aren't drivers :/
[11:39] <kbrooks> Schaap, no
[11:39] <Schaap> well
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> Schaap: no, webcam support is specific
[11:39] <Schaap> inf then
[11:39] <kbrooks> Schaap, DLL FILES ARE NOT DRIVERS
[11:39] <thoreauputic> Schaap: you are making a lot of assumptions...
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> it well either work or.. not.
[11:40] <Schaap> kbrooks. *.inf then
[11:40] <kbrooks> information files are .ini files
[11:40] <Schaap> well you know what i mean
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Schaap: you have some reading to do, methinks :)
[11:40] <Schaap> ok, so i cant use my webcam
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Schaap: Schaap: you are making a lot of assumptions...
[11:40] <kbrooks> Schaap, i'll find it.
[11:40] <Schaap> no problem
[11:40] <shadeofgrey> okay.  lets make this easier...  how do i just copy the whole directory from win to ubuntu?
[11:41] <shadeofgrey> surely its possible?
[11:41] <Schaap> well, webcams dont seem as wel documented for Linux
[11:41] <Schaap> shadeofgrey, samba
[11:41] <shadeofgrey> or ... well...  i suppose i have to mount it anyway huh?
[11:42] <zorba64> tidalwav1: what error mesages are u getting when apt "chokes"
[11:42] <kbrooks> Schaap, not samba
[11:42] <Schaap> just create a smaba share, copy it from windows to there
[11:42] <Schaap> done
[11:42] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs /mnt ; cp -a /mnt  (or something like that as root)
[11:42] <kbrooks> zorba64, ...
[11:42] <kbrooks> NOT SAMBA
[11:42] <tidalwav1> zorba: working on it with kbrooks :)
[11:42] <Schaap> Geez FINE
[11:42] <CarlK> where is the proper place to put module parameters?  it was /etc/conf.modules, then modules.conf, then modprobe.conf, now I think they go in seperate files or something?
[11:42] <Schaap> ILL LEAVE THEN
[11:42] <Schaap> btw THANKS
[11:42] <sjoerd> Schaap: webcams with an philips chipset will work, various others too more or less
[11:42] <zorba64> ok
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Schaap didn't hang around to learn anything, I notice...
[11:44] <AndyR> tritium, i have a g3 and a bttv but not together
[11:44] <AndyR> can do a test tomorrow
[11:44] <tritium> AndyR, really?
[11:44] <shadeofgrey> okay
[11:44] <tritium> That would be fantastic!
[11:45] <tritium> AndyR, only if you don't mind, and it's not too much trouble.
[11:45] <shadeofgrey> so mount /dev/hda1 -t ntfs
[11:45] <AndyR> no problems, im on holiday
[11:45] <cg0def> does anyone know a good usb tv tuner
[11:45] <shadeofgrey> that'll mount it in the file browser?
[11:45] <cg0def> I am trying to find one for a laptop
[11:45] <tritium> AndyR, you're awesome.  I sincerely appreciate the kind offer.
[11:45] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: no - sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[11:46] <shadeofgrey> what does that do?
[11:46] <shadeofgrey> in plain english
[11:46] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you don't have a working /etc/fstab so you need admin privileges, That connects your win partiton to the /mnt directory
[11:47] <thoreauputic> assuming win is on /dev/hda1
[11:47] <tritium> AndyR, which bttv card do you have?
[11:47] <dtygel> thoreauputic: thank you very very much: fstab worked allright!
[11:47] <shadeofgrey> okay done
[11:47] <shadeofgrey> now what?
[11:48] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: if that command returns no error, now do
[11:48] <thoreauputic> cd /mnt
[11:48] <thoreauputic> then do
[11:48] <thoreauputic> ls   (you should see windows in the terminal now0
[11:48] <thoreauputic> now)
[11:48] <dtygel> Now folks, I have one more quest before me: installing apache+php+mysql. Does anyone have a suggestion of a tutorial or some documentation to do it straight forward in ubuntu?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> dtygel: glad to hear it :)
[11:49] <dtygel> thor: yeah!
[11:49] <thoreauputic> dtygel: and you're welcome :)
[11:49] <qlo-xael> Hi all, I am trying to configure a kernel and I am getting the error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses", when I check the synaptic package manager, i already have ncurses 5.4.4 installed.  Does anyone know what the problem might be.
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> okay i get it now
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> sort of
[11:49] <qlo-xael> the error actually says "you must install ncurses-devel.."
[11:49] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: can you see the files when you ls ?
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> yes
[11:50] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: OK now do
[11:50] <shadeofgrey> so now i can copy them
[11:50] <shock> ok - now its getting _really_ tough for linux to beat my osx :P
[11:50] <MobyTurbo> qlo-xael, ncurses-devel is a seperate package of headers from the basic ncurses package.
[11:50] <shock> even though I lub linux
[11:50] <shock> the only thing I could not by no means change is the Sideways-K => Delete
[11:50] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you should be able to, yes
[11:51] <shadeofgrey> what command do i use to do that?
[11:51] <LinuxJones> qlo-xael, apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[11:51] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: open your file manager and have a look
[11:51] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: all the win stuff should show up in your nautilus file manager if you navigate to the /mnt directory now
[11:52] <shadeofgrey> okay i tried to click on it and it says i dont have permission to view the contents
[11:52] <qlo-xael> LinuxJones: "Couldnt find package libncurses5-dev"
[11:52] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: OK then in a terminal, cd /mnt
[11:52] <BockBilbo> tritium, you there?
[11:52] <tritium> BockBilbo, yeah
[11:52] <BockBilbo> have you fixed the problem?
[11:52] <qlo-xael> LinuxJones: sounds like i need to use the internet and not the install cd maybe?
[11:53] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: then do sudo -s to get root privileges
[11:53] <tritium> BockBilbo, nope
[11:53] <tritium> haven't tried
[11:53] <qlo-xael> i can't seem to find ncurses-devel on freshmeat..
[11:53] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: the prompt should change to #
[11:53] <BockBilbo> tritium, :S i just switched back to esound
[11:53] <tritium> BockBilbo, you did?
[11:53] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: then cd to the dir you want to copy
[11:53] <BockBilbo> yes
[11:53] <MobyTurbo> qlo-xael, it's in the apt-get repositories, you'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines dealing with internet apt sources. Then run apt-get update
[11:53] <LinuxJones> qlo-xael, yeah
[11:53] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: OK?
[11:54] <qlo-xael> thanks MobyTurbo
[11:54] <Cerb|AFK> where do i find httpd.conf to change my webservers port i tried /etc/apache2 but that httpd.conf file is empty?
[11:54] <CarlK> any recomendations on a live cd that might get my isa sound working so I can see how it did it?
[11:54] <BockBilbo> i will go back to polypaudio once its well incorporated in hoary
[11:54] <qlo-xael> MobyTurbo: how do i run apt-get update?
[11:55] <dtygel> Folks, does someone have some experience in establishing a apache-mysql-php server in ubuntu?
[11:55] <qlo-xael> Also, can someone tell me how enable the universe?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: you still alive ? ;)
[11:55] <BockBilbo> qlo-xael, Gnome terminal and then type
[11:55] <BockBilbo> sudo apt-get update
[11:55] <qlo-xael> u know, i figured it was that easy
[11:55] <thoreauputic> qlo-xael: hehe - only root can enable the universe ;)
[11:55] <Cerb|AFK> :)
[11:56] <kbrooks> yay
[11:56] <kbrooks> i finally helped him
[11:56] <shock> man - now I'm beginning to like osx :( - now what? is there a cure?
[11:56] <BockBilbo> qlo-xael, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki?expr=HowTo
[11:56] <kbrooks> if anyone ever wants the logs of my talk with him, pm me ;)
[11:56] <qlo-xael> Thanks much
[11:58] <BockBilbo> thoreauputic, what are the packages needed to add the debian menu to the app menu?
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> im here
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> sorry
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> phone rang
[11:58] <bascule> http://www.smh.com.au/news/Breaking/Multiple-flaws-found-in-Linux-kernel/2005/02/17/1108609328729.html?oneclick=true
[11:58] <Burn`> Ophalen: 1 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/multiverse Packages [69,7kB]
[11:58] <Burn`> Foutief http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/multiverse Packages
[11:58] <Burn`>   Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[11:59] <Burn`> somebody knows this fault?
[11:59] <bascule> should I apply for a job as a news caster?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> BockBilbo: hmmm... there is a menu package but it doesn't do that - I think the ubuntu devs decided debian menus were A Bad Thing (tm)
[11:59] <shadeofgrey> okay once i get to the directory i want to copy how do i actually copy everything
[11:59] <shadeofgrey> and where should i put it?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> did you become root as I suggested?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: to do the copying?
[11:59] <shadeofgrey> yes the prompt is a # now
[11:59] <BockBilbo> thoreauputic, but... i uses to have it in hoary 3 days ago...
[12:00] <BockBilbo> :S


[01:57] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: merged and did a test build, fails because xorriso doesn't allow that option when invoked as mkisofs
[01:59] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Ok, then I'm trying to figure out how I'm able to do it and ubuntu-cdimage is not.
[01:59] <vorlon> with the exact commandline as shown from the logs?
[02:00] <Eickmeyer> No, more like I'm trying to figure out how cubic is able to do it.
[02:07] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Are we using "-iso-level 3"?
[02:11] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Answered my own question. We're not. That's the factor, -iso-level 3 supports larger files.
[02:23] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: From the manpage: Level 3 allows ISO names with up to 32 characters and file size of up to 400 GiB - 200 KiB. (This size limitation is set by the xorriso implementation and not by ISO 9660 which would allow nearly 8 TiB.)
[04:27] <tarzeau>  Eickmeyer: i managed to get in photoqt into 22.04, but it's probably too late for inclusion? (5 MB, qt photo tool), I'm aware of the recent discussions of size usage
[04:27] <tarzeau> wrong channel, sorry
[08:10] <juliank> tests results today so far:   2307 amd64       706 ppc64el     348 s390x       314 arm64       202 armhf        10 i386
[08:11] <juliank> and we were apparently not running PPA tests
[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceph (focal-proposed/main) [15.2.14-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 15.2.16-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[10:03] <juliank> armhf is moving slowly because it still does not respect timeouts and tests just hang for 13 hours
[10:04] <juliank> well, 24 hours eventually
[10:04] <juliank> I lowered the killing timeout to 12 hours
[10:08] <juliank> armhf is still running tests submitted 10 days ago
[10:08] <juliank> it's not working
[10:10] <juliank> the problem is that if tests get cancelled they stay at the front of the queue
[10:12] <juliank> I'm stopping the armhf testers, deleting everything from before 2022-03-2*, restart the workers and hope this gets things moving
[10:22] <juliank> armhf should be back shortly
[10:22] <juliank> (maintenance is done, it should boot now)
[10:23] <juliank> maybe this total armhf reboot also resolves the timeout issues, who knows
[10:25] <juliank> ugh I forgot to delete security ppa tests from 20202-02-25 and 2022-03-10
[10:25] <juliank> apologies
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-unsigned [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [2.06-2ubuntu6]
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-unsigned [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [2.06-2ubuntu6]
[11:23] <xnox> doko: vorlon: juliank: some of the no-change rebuilds that sil2100 did for powerpc abi bump generated a tonne of autopkgtest and are not needed at all.for example meta rebuilds of boost-defaults cross-toolchain-base and similar.
[11:23] <xnox> would be nice to remove that from proposed, and nuke the autopkgtests for them. unless too late now.
[11:24] <juliank> xnox: we should nuke autopkgtests, please gather the names into a regex
[11:26] <juliank>  xnox I'm deleting the boost and cross-toolchain ones
[11:27] <xnox> "triggers": ["lsb/11.1.0ubuntu4"]}
[11:27] <xnox> is also meta-only
[11:27] <xnox> it's like 700 tests
[11:27] <xnox> "triggers": ["boost-defaults/<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu7"]
[11:28] <juliank> for arch in armhf arm64 amd64 i386 ppc64el s390x; do ./autopkgtest-cloud/tools/filter-amqp amqp://$RABBIT_USER:$RABBIT_PASSWORD@$RABBIT_HOST debci-huge-$rel-$arch '"(mesa/22.0.0-0ubuntu1|boost-defaults/<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu7|cross-toolchain-base/59ubuntu3|lsb/11.1.0ubuntu4)' ; done
[11:29] <juliank> I'm running that now from autopkgtest-cloud-worker/0
[11:29] <juliank> but I'm gonna disappear now, so you might want to run this yourself by ssh to wendigo, sudo to prod-proposed-migration, then juju ssh autopkgtest-cloud-worker/0; set -a; . rabbitmq.cred and then execute loop like above
[11:30] <juliank> note that things are slow
[11:30] <juliank> probably we should query for ["trigger"
[11:30] <juliank> to not prevent test runs triggered by other packages tha tjust happen  to have .e.g lsb as 2ndary trigger
[12:03] <xypron> LP #1965260 is updating a package that has not been released before Jammy. It fixes an issue with RAM size detection? Does it need a feature freeze exception? Can such an exception be granted.
[12:13] <RikMills> sil2100: hi, FYI LP: #1966204 is needed for the Kubuntu beta
[12:13] <sil2100> o/
[12:13] <RikMills> o/
[12:14] <sil2100> RikMills: is it still waiting on tests to finish to migrate?
[12:14] <RikMills> sil2100: yep
[12:14] <sil2100> FWIW we also are waiting for the langpacks to migrate as well...
[12:15] <sil2100> I pushed them to -proposed yesterday but those are still not fully passing
[12:15] <RikMills> the arm* queues are very backlogged also
[12:15] <sil2100> I think because of so many things in flight, I anticipate Beta freeze might need to wait till much later today
[12:16] <RikMills> sounds likely
[12:17] <seb128> doing archive rebuilds the week of beta seem to have become a sort of tradition...
[12:18] <seb128> the autopkgtest backlog is going to make tricky trying to land any fix in time for beta
[12:42] <sil2100> seb128: I think it was always the case. We actually always had archive rebuilds as a point in our beta milestone release process from what I know
[12:44] <sil2100> Well, looking at it now, in the process those are in 'minus 3 days', so I guess we started a bit early
[12:44] <sil2100> (per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaProcess )
[12:53] <seb128> sil2100, sorry what I wrote was unclear, the archive rebuilds for ftbfs reports don't impact our autopktest queues and don't create delays, I was speaking about those bileto landing for ppc64el rebuilds
[12:54] <seb128> or new qt
[12:56] <sil2100> Those are indeed unfortunate. But better now than, like last time, before the actual final release!
[12:57] <seb128> right
[13:07] <juliank> seb128, sil2100 I might still go through the uploads and move the remaining ones to the huge queue
[13:07] <juliank> Just didn't get around to it
[13:07] <juliank> Then normal queues are free for manual requests and normal uploads
[13:08] <xnox> seb128:  i was gonna say doing it now, is better than last time.
[13:09] <xnox> vorlon:  sil2100:  but yeah, it sounds like large ABI rebuilds are always point regardless when one does them. Thus the thinking to "wait for organic rebuilds" and upload the rest "later" might not have been a good one.
[13:09] <xnox> i.e. uploading everything after toolchain bump, may have been better. A sort of 2-in-1 in-archive rebuild, plus powerpc abi bump.
[13:09] <xnox> or like uploading N-number of them every day over a month.
[13:09] <sil2100> I'm not against leaving this out to wait a bit for some organic rebuilds, but I think what we did wrong is not putting this on the big-transition schedule
[13:10] <sil2100> We probably should have remembered about this early, define some date by which we say 'enough waiting' and make sure it's on the schedule
[13:10] <sil2100> Like a bit after FF or something
[13:10] <xnox> sil2100:  also some of your uploads were very redudnant. like boost-defaults lsb cross-toolchain-base etc. Many of them are arch:any but in practice are metas that don't contain any arch-specific binaries...... because arch:all packages cannot have arch specific depends.
[13:11] <sil2100> Right, maybe I could be a bit more specific while defining the list, I was basically just going though packages with ppc64el binaries, without considering what kind of binaries those are
[13:12] <sil2100> But I don't know if that could have been determined by some automated way?
[13:13] <xnox> probably nothing automated.
[13:13] <xnox> maybe check package install size to be like more than some threshold.
[13:13] <xnox> which means it is likely not to have any binaries.
[13:25] <seb128> xnox, earlier is better imho, even if we miss some 'free rebuilds' at least it's not creating delay which are preventing milestone fixes to land
[13:26] <seb128> or at least let a week free before beta next time
[13:26] <sil2100> seb128: which packages are you looking to land for beta that are still blocked in -proposed?
[13:27] <sil2100> Maybe I can help out somehow
[13:27] <seb128> sil2100, I need to check, the by_team report isn't even in a workable state atm, we have 135 items listed under desktop there
[13:27] <coreycb> does anyone know if there is a standard deadline in an ubuntu cycle for MIR approval?
[13:27] <seb128> sil2100, I'm not even sure how to filter fixes from the team from the noise
[13:28] <seb128> coreycb, there isn't, MIR by itself isn't impacting much, but usually you want a MIR to bring something new in so that would be covered by a FFe
[13:29] <coreycb> seb128: it's something that has been in jammy-proposed for a while, for my case.
[13:30] <coreycb> seb128: just waiting on security review and I want to coordinate with them to see how much time they have
[13:31] <seb128> coreycb, I'm not sure it's covered specifically by our documentation, usually things uploaded before feature freeze don't need an exception, but technically you shrink your testing period by unblocking late
[13:31] <seb128> I will let someone who is actually in the release team reply though
[13:33] <coreycb> ok, thanks seb128
[13:37] <sil2100> coreycb: the earlier the better. As seb128 mentioned, we don't really have any hard freezes for these (besides final freeze of course), but the 'perfect goal' would be to get as much in for the beta this week as possible, so that if it's to be pulled in, it's tested as part of the Beta
[13:37] <sil2100> If, of course, you have an FFe approved for this already (if this is to be included by default on some Ubuntu installations)
[14:13] <seb128> xnox, would it make sense to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/408964 ?
[14:19] <coreycb> sil2100: thank you, I will pass this along
[14:21] <xnox> seb128:  left a comment with reasons why localechooser is so so so weird.
[14:22] <xnox> also what is going on with it
[14:23] <xnox> why does it ftbfs on most arches?! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/localechooser/2.89ubuntu3
[14:25] <juliank> armhf is soo much better
[14:26] <juliank> xnox: it seems there's a bug where launchpad ignores the !noudeb profile when figuring out whether to build arch: any packages
[14:26] <juliank> xnox: like if there's only arch: all .deb + arch: any udeb, launchpad will schedule arch: any builds which then fail as there's no arch any to build
[14:33] <xnox> juliank:  ah
[14:33] <xnox> juliank:  and we can't do !noudeb everywhere yet, because we still have active series that build udebs, and launchpad is not actually aware of noudeb.
[14:34] <juliank> xnox: well I guess we need to have the build scheduling be aware of it
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (impish-proposed/main) [4:20.1.1-0ubuntu1 => 4:20.1.1-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[14:48] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: In addition to everything else, Ubuntu Studio isn't building because the squashfs file size is exceeding what is allowed. vorlon and I are working on fixes to ubuntu-cdimage. bug 1966523
[14:51] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: hm, let me read up on this 'level 3 ISO' and maybe merge this + deploy
[14:52] <sil2100> Maybe it's worth a try!
[14:52] <Eickmeyer> I've had success with it anecdotally.
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (focal-proposed/main) [3:18.3.5-0ubuntu1 => 3:18.3.5-0ubuntu2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[15:04] <sil2100> Eickmeyer, vorlon: merged and deployed the -iso-level change. Per manpage it felt correct, so I'll run a studio build to see if it helped
[15:05] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: Thanks so much!
[15:05] <sil2100> Maybe I'll re-use the existing livefs if possible, I'll see if there is one
[15:11] <vorlon> sil2100: perfect, thanks
[15:14] <vorlon> xnox: I still disagree wrt localechooser.  The rationale for putting these in git subtrees was that they were no longer in the archive; this doesn't apply at all to localechooser; the handling of localechooser via both the archive and separately via git subtree that then has to be *patched* is meh
[15:23] <xnox> vorlon:  rationale for git subtrees was more than just no longer in the archive. but also the insanity of maintaining git->bzr mirrors; and using bzr merge of those; which stopped working; to upload into archive; to then vendor into ubiquity; which often was too slow; and people were patching components inline; and then on release weak we did full uploads; and randomly were picking up more
[15:23] <xnox> changes unexpectadly.
[15:23] <xnox> vorlon:  having all of them as subtrees helps a lot with sanity; but i do think we should be doing pull subtree on every clean/build of ubiquity; but that has never happened.
[15:23] <xnox> vorlon:  and i.e. we are missing a tonne of fixes and translations in ubiquity for jammy now.
[15:23] <vorlon> yes, I don't think you socialized this particularly
[15:23] <xnox> vorlon:  not sure if we want to merge all of those.
[15:24] <vorlon> anyway, the localechooser source package has a Launchpad Vcs-Git field, so git->bzr mirrors are not a consideration there
[15:24] <xnox> vorlon:  yeah, it didn't quite catch on, and a couple of people who were trained in that / designed that; quit or otherwise moved on.
[15:25] <xnox> vorlon: what really confuses me is why we have patched localechooser in ubiquity only.
[15:25] <xnox> vorlon:  or if ubiquity is now the only user of localechooser; we can apply that patch as ubuntu delta to localechooser now, no?
[15:25] <vorlon> the bit being patched is d-i specific so there's no reason not to include that patch in the localechooser source
[15:25] <vorlon> right
[15:25] <xnox> cool. let's do that.
[15:25] <xnox> but still want it as a subtree.
[15:25] <xnox> please =)
[15:26] <vorlon> eh
[15:26] <vorlon> if it's going to be in sync with the archive package, I still think using subtrees are a hindrance for this
[15:27] <vorlon> also you have a ubiquity/d-i/README and a ubiquity/d-i/source/README that contradict one another
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> sil2100, vorlon: It built! zsyncing now.
[15:32] <sil2100> \o/
[15:36] <xypron> bdmurray: what is your view on LP #1965260, see above?
[15:46] <dbungert> release team, please consider LP: #1966186, ping bdmurray sil2100
[15:47] <sil2100> dbungert: looking o/
[15:47] <bdmurray> that's in the same vein as things already approved so I'm a +1
[15:55] <ginggs> britney isn't trying to migrate rebuilds of deal.ii and trilinos together.  i've tried on amd64 and arm64 and was able to install libdeal.ii-dev and the entire stack was pulled in with no conflicts.  can we try hint them together? i think 'easy deal.ii/9.3.2-1~exp1ubuntu1 trilinos/13.2.0-1ubuntu1' should do it
[15:58] <dbungert> bdmurray: OK thanks.  So is there anything else that needs to happen or can I hit the merge button?
[15:58] <bdmurray> dbungert: let me comment on the bug and set it to triaged
[16:01] <Eickmeyer> sil2100, vorlon: Confirmed, it boots in both MBR and UEFI modes. We have a winner.
[16:09] <dbungert> subiquity build started for inclusion of the last few feature freeze exception things.
[16:17] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: that is excellent news, thank you for submitting the fix!
[17:00] <juliank> ** The ppc64el rebuilds now all live in the huge queues, remaining in the normal queues are now 481 on arm64, 357 on armhf; this means that manually requested tests and hotfixes pass earlier now **
[17:01] <juliank> (those tests went from the top of the normal queue to the *back* of the huge queues, fwiw)
[17:04] <juliank> I'm also gonna go and filter out duplicate test requests
[17:12] <juliank> it seems there were not many dupes
[17:13] <juliank> One day I guess we should implement merging of test requests, if same package triggered by multiple packages, merge triggers
[17:13] <juliank> then you need to migrate the triggers together though
[17:14] <juliank> however it's conceivable you can test multiple pools and then combine them to find the culprit?
[17:14] <juliank> I don't know!
[17:14] <juliank> A, B, C trigger; we have two requests {A,B} and {B,C}
[17:15] <juliank> I guess we only save 1 test?
[17:16] <juliank> I'm not good at stochastics
[17:16] <juliank> But if it works for COVID pool tests, it should work for autopkgtests?
[17:51] <bdmurray> Does zsync not work over https? `could not read control file from URL https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/jammy-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[17:58] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: I'll do a test and see.
[17:59] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: Yeah, I got a "failed on url".
[18:00] <jbicha> bdmurray: yes, just change your URL to http , see bug 1927807
[18:02] <RikMills> bdmurray: that is a longstanding problem with zsync
[19:16] <kanashiro> could any SRU team member take a look at LP: #1960449?
[20:02] <sil2100> dbungert: hey! Did you manage to push the new subiquity to the 22.04 branch?
[20:02] <sil2100> Are we ready for beta from the POV of live-server?
[20:04] <dbungert> sil2100: will promote now
[20:07] <dbungert> sil2100: done
[20:17] <sil2100> dbungert: thanks!
[21:15] <sil2100> I need to go EOD now. Regarding jammy beta, seeing that there are still things in flight, we might build first Beta candidates tomorrow morning
[21:15] <sil2100> But I'll leave it up to vorlon and bdmurray to decide if maybe they'll still try kicking those off today
[21:15] <sil2100> o/
[21:59] <vorlon> bdmurray: is this the right syntax and the right list to freeze? generate-freeze-block kubuntu lubuntu ubuntu ubuntu-budgie ubuntukylin ubuntu-mate ubuntustudio xubuntu
[22:00] <bdmurray> vorlon: I think you are missing ubuntu-server
[22:01] <vorlon> bdmurray: ok, wasn't clear on whether the "flavours" list went by images or seed pods
[22:02] <bdmurray> Oh and I modified it last release so make sure you are up to date
[22:09] <kc2bez> vorlon: may we please bump the Lubuntu iso warning size to 2.8G?
[22:20] <vorlon> kc2bez: done
[22:20] <vorlon> bdmurray: freeze block in place
[22:23] <bdmurray> vorlon: Should we also make the the launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy change?
[22:24] <vorlon> bdmurray: ah; didn't recall that we still did both at beta.  The latter requires IS intervention
[22:24] <bdmurray> vorlon: That's not exactly true
[22:25] <vorlon> ...
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: 0ad (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.0.25b-1.1ubuntu1 => 0.0.25b-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Jammy Beta] (20220328.1) has been added
[22:56] <kc2bez> Thanks vorlon
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-artwork (jammy-proposed/universe) [22.04.10 => 22.04.11] (ubuntu-mate)
[23:07] <Wimpy> Please allow ubuntu-mate-artwork 22.04.11
[23:07] <Wimpy> It is essential for the beta and depends on yaru-theme that was uploaded earlier this evening.
[23:11] <bdmurray> I'll have a look
[23:12] <Wimpy> ty bdmurray
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-mate-artwork [source] (jammy-proposed) [22.04.11]
[23:12] <Wimpy> <3
[23:25] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: "...until final release in October" oops
[23:25] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: there might be some point release then
[23:26] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: Isn't final release in April for this one?
[23:26] <bdmurray> Yes, I was hoping I might somehow be correct
[23:26] <Eickmeyer> Hehe
[23:29] <sarnold> so we can't just take a nap for a few months?
[23:30] <Eickmeyer> sarnold: Ha! Fat chance.
[23:30] <mdeslaur> Oh, I thought October is when we thought the autopkgtest queue would catch up
[23:30] <Eickmeyer> mdeslaur: I mean, you're not wrong.
[23:31] <bdmurray> Such a tough crowd
[23:32] <mdeslaur> hehehe
[23:32] <Eickmeyer> HAHA


[15:43] <TheSHAD0W> Hi.  The automatic screen dimming seems to be broken, and I'm not seeing any controls to disable it.  Googling only found something from 2015 that doesn't help.
[15:58] <TheSHAD0W> Found that disabling dpms should do it.  Any other implications to doing so?
[16:01] <TheSHAD0W> Still seems to be dimming.
[16:05] <TheSHAD0W> Arrgh.  It was the TV I'm connected to.  X__X
[20:19] <xu-help18w> Hey i installed xubuntu on my usb and it just overwritten my windows and then i needed to go to a other laptop to install the win 10 iso for my usb and installed it again on my computer. Now i have Win 10 and Ubuntu in my boot list and i want to delete Ubuntu because every startup there is always this gnu grub 2.04 where i need to write Exit. To
[20:19] <xu-help18w> start windows i need to go to the boot menu and start it from there pls help me to delet xubuntu and gnu grub 2.04
[20:23] <sorinello> brainwash, ping


[00:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: munin (disco-proposed/universe) [2.0.47-1ubuntu2 => 2.0.47-1ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[00:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted munin [source] (disco-proposed) [2.0.47-1ubuntu3]
[01:28] <vorlon> xnox: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/20190412.4/ ought to have the u-a-t fix
[05:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted intel-opencl-clang [source] (disco-proposed) [8.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[05:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: intel-opencl-clang [i386] (disco-proposed/universe) [8.0.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[05:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: intel-opencl-clang [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [8.0.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[06:11] <vorlon> tjaalton: I: intel-graphics-compiler source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright third_party/opencl_headers (paragraph at line 10)
[06:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted intel-graphics-compiler [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[06:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted intel-opencl-clang [amd64] (disco-proposed) [8.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[06:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted intel-opencl-clang [i386] (disco-proposed) [8.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[06:33] <tjaalton> vorlon: oh, a typo there..
[06:33] <tjaalton> vorlon: thanks for the reviews!
[06:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: smrtanalysis (disco-proposed/primary) [0~20180814]
[06:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: node-cosmiconfig (disco-proposed/primary) [3.1.0-2]
[06:44] <tjaalton> same bugs with compute-runtime it seems
[06:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected node-cosmiconfig [sync] (disco-proposed) [3.1.0-2]
[06:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected smrtanalysis [sync] (disco-proposed) [0~20180814]
[06:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: debian-installer (disco-proposed/main) [20101020ubuntu568 => 20101020ubuntu569] (core)
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted debian-installer [source] (disco-proposed) [20101020ubuntu569]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: caffe (disco-proposed/universe) [1.0.0+git20180821.99bd997-2build2 => 1.0.0+git20180821.99bd997-2ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted caffe [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.0+git20180821.99bd997-2ubuntu1]
[07:45] <ginggs> infinity: i've just filed #926985 ^
[07:45] <ginggs> debian bug #926985
[07:45] <ubot5`> Debian bug 926985 in src:caffe "caffe: FTBFS, no output PDF file produced!" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/926985
[07:46] <ginggs> ubot5`: thanks
[07:46] <ubot5`> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:48] <infinity> ginggs: It's a texlive-extra bug, already open.
[07:48] <infinity> ginggs: The one I referenced in the changelog. :P
[07:48] <infinity> ginggs: So go forth and merge.
[07:48] <ginggs> infinity: yeah, i saw, but if texlive-extra doesn't get fixed, cafe should workaround
[07:49] <infinity> ginggs: Well, sure.  Feel free to suggest my workaround for now.  It only skips building the refman.pdf, everything else remains intact, so not world-ending.
[07:50] <ginggs> infinity: ack, i'll add your workaround to the bug
[07:50] <ginggs> infinity: if you have a minute, would you look at gpustat in disco NEW please?
[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gpustat [sync] (disco-proposed) [0.5.0-2]
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[07:56] <ginggs> infinity: thanks!
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[09:40] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, is it possible to try to move puma autopkgtests to a more capable machine?
[09:45] <LocutusOfBorg> also please somebody decruft knot-resolver? old binaries left on amd64: libkres-dev, libkres9 (from 3.2.1-1)
[09:45] <LocutusOfBorg> NBS in proposed
[09:46] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: What would you like the machines to be more capable of doing?
[09:46] <infinity> The regressions don't look in any way load-related.
[09:46] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, I remember some days ago x no x saying he wasn't able to reproduce on his machine
[09:47] <LocutusOfBorg> in any case, I'm doing a no change test rebuild here http://debomatic-amd64.debian.net/distribution#disco/puma/3.12.0-2build1/autopkgtest
[09:47] <LocutusOfBorg> also, ceres-solver is now not built anymore on arm64 and ppc64el... please kick binaries out? Debian did that months ago IIRC
[09:48] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=919786
[09:48] <ubot5`> Debian bug 919786 in ftp.debian.org "RM: ceres-solver [arm64 ppc64el] -- ROM; newer release FTBFS on arm64 and ppc64el" [Normal,Open]
[09:49] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, it works on debomatic, so I presume some misconfiguration somewhere? not a real bug I would say
[09:49] <infinity> How did that prove anything?
[09:51] <LocutusOfBorg> mmm why shouldn't it, it is an autopkgtest ran on the same disco baseline...
[09:54] <infinity> And a different binary.
[09:55] <LocutusOfBorg> so you mean a no-change rebuild might fix that?
[09:55] <infinity> No idea.
[09:55] <infinity> Probably not.
[09:55] <LocutusOfBorg> mmm so I don't get what is your opinion :)
[09:55] <infinity> But "it works when I change a bunch of variables, so please ignore the failures" isn't a helpful analysis.
[09:56] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm not saying "ignore the failures", but please try to move to a more capable machine
[09:56] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[09:56] <LocutusOfBorg> if it is possible to do a "one shot test against big packages"
[09:56] <LocutusOfBorg> that is the request
[09:56] <infinity> The point of CI tests are to establish a baseline and track regressions.  "I guess it'll just always fail" isn't a good baseline.
[09:56] <LocutusOfBorg> in the meanwhile I'm uploading in my ppa
[09:56] <infinity> Define "more capable machine".
[09:56] <infinity> The tests are running in under 10 minutes.  Nothing's timing out.
[09:56] <infinity> What do you think is wrong with "the machine".
[09:57] <infinity> All 6 arches, no less.
[09:57] <infinity> Is our mainframe too slow for you?
[09:57] <LocutusOfBorg> for me its ok :D maybe it isn't for the package :p
[09:57] <infinity> ...
[09:57] <LocutusOfBorg> anyway, lets wait a no-change rebuild in my ppa, some testing run and I'll be back
[09:58] <LocutusOfBorg> in any case, is it possible to move knot-resolver and ceres-solver a little bit further?
[09:58] <infinity> knot-resolver is done.
[09:58] <infinity> I'm looking at ceres.  It has an rdep.  Looking to see what Debian did there.
[09:59] <infinity> But, seriously, think before you say "your machine is too slow" or whatever. :P
[09:59] <infinity> It's clearly not a speed issue.
[09:59] <infinity> s390x executes the tests in 39s.  Same as your debomatic run.
[09:59] <infinity> Fails the same as all other 5 arches.
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, I never said the machine was slow, did I?
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> I said "more capable", and with that I think wrt more ram or similar
[10:00] <LocutusOfBorg> that would explain why debian did not have this failure
[10:01] <LocutusOfBorg> I agree that "slow" might be not the case
[10:01] <infinity> ...
[10:01] <infinity> It's not RAM either.
[10:01] <LocutusOfBorg> so maybe some iptables or network configuration? dns?
[10:01] <infinity> "more capable" might mean "a different network setup" or something esoteric like that, but that would require actually looking at the code failing instead of lobbing darts in the dark.
[10:02] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm trying to see by looking at failures, I already looked at the code but I speak zero ruby
[10:02] <LocutusOfBorg> also, another guess is that something is badly parsing some system parameter, maybe because its a container or similar
[10:03] <infinity> It's not a container (except on armhf)
[10:03] <infinity> The other 5 arches are kvm.
[10:04] <LocutusOfBorg> network might be the culprit, the failing test does:
[10:05] <LocutusOfBorg>       hit(["http://<IP_ADDRESS>:#{ launcher.connected_port }/test"])
[10:05] <LocutusOfBorg> not sure what it means
[10:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-notifier (disco-proposed/main) [3.192.17 => 3.192.18] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[10:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-notifier [source] (disco-proposed) [3.192.18]
[12:24] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, does knot-resolver need a bigger hammer on arm64?
[12:24] <LocutusOfBorg> missing build on arm64: libkres-dev, libkres9 (from 3.2.0-1)
[12:25] <LocutusOfBorg> it is not built anymore on arm64 due to lua
[12:28] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Hammered before you asked.  Next britney after the next publisher should have more interesting things to say.
[12:28] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Also retried knot/knot-resolver tests as a proposed pair to see if that works.
[12:30] <infinity> Gonna nap for a bit and then probably declare the rest of proposed a lost cause when I wake up and britney block and spin some images.
[12:30] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks, that was my ongoing activity, so I can now go back to puma :D
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[19:55] <tsimonq2> I realized Lubuntu hadn't done a seed update since the cycle opened. Updated and uploaded.
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (disco-proposed/universe) [1.16 => 19.04.1] (lubuntu)
[20:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (disco-proposed) [19.04.1]
[21:20] <wxl> infinity: i found a rather weird regression in the current disco relative to beta: we seem to have english (uk) set as the default keyboard layout
[21:23] <wxl> infinity: we've had only one change to our default settings and that's not it.. we've had no change in upstream lxqt-config which is used to manage the  keyboard layouts.. so is there some goofiness going on with ubuntu?
[21:34] <wxl> infinity: nevermind. i don't like flukes but it seems i had one.
[21:38] <infinity> wxl: "default" keyboard layout should be based on geoip.
[21:38] <infinity> wxl: As in, it'll attempt to pick the right timezone, language, and keyboard.
[21:39] <wxl> maybe geoip hiccuped. i dunno.
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[22:07] <infinity> ^ Same as the last few release cycles, these images don't have base-files or the ISO label updated, but please test, test, test, so I can spin "real" RCs on Monday with any fixes people commit between now and then.
[22:07] <infinity> tsimonq2: Can you send out a call for testing?  I'm running a bit late to the airport.
[22:08] <valorie> so this is the alpha RC?
[22:08] <valorie> lol
[22:08] <infinity> The "test it and fix stuff now, FFS" pre-RC. :P
[22:08] <infinity> Cause testing later is too late.
[22:09] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/disco-disco-19-04-release-candidate-testing/10570 .
[22:10] <infinity> Yay jibel.
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[22:21] <bluesabre> woohoo
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[22:24] <teward> infinity: FWIW I don't think you'll hear anything from tsimonq2 for the next 5 hours
[22:24] <teward> or more
[22:24] <teward> Bashing-om: ^
[22:24] <teward> (he's at his prom)
[22:25] <teward> so if it's more urgent you'll want to hand it off to someone else
[22:25] <Bashing-om> teward: ack
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[22:57] <tsimonq2> infinity: I have some spare time right now.
[22:57] <tsimonq2> Sure.
[22:57] <valorie> okey-dokey
[22:58] <valorie> tweeting as soon as tsimonq2 has a link to share
[22:58]  * Eickmeyer just emailed his -devel list
[23:04] <tsimonq2> infinity: Here, have a ready-to-go base-files.\
[23:05] <valorie> Eickmeyer: me too
[23:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (disco-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu8 => 10.1ubuntu9] (core)
[23:05] <valorie> but I need a good link for the tweeteroo
[23:07] <tsimonq2> infinity: (Saves you work, so when it's ready, you can accept.)
[23:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected base-files [source] (disco-proposed) [10.1ubuntu9]
[23:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected sip4 [source] (disco-proposed) [4.19.15+dfsg-1ubuntu1]
[23:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hypre [sync] (disco-proposed) [2.15.1-5]
[23:19] <Eickmeyer> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-April/004748.html
[23:20] <valorie> and we're off!
[23:24] <valorie> https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1117206913156993024
[23:28] <infinity> Huzzah.
[23:29] <infinity> I expect to check in to my hotel to either a barrage of new bugs or a bunch of people telling me everything's perfect.
[23:29] <infinity> (the latter would be a nice change)
[23:30] <stgraber> :)
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[23:34] <Eickmeyer> https://twitter.com/ubuntustudio/status/1117207629468553216