[22:31] <Sir_Sid> Cyde,  its a known bug
[22:31] <cafuego> kazol2: it's probably worth a try anyway, yes.
[22:31] <Sir_Sid> Cyde, Look at the topic of the channel
[22:31] <zetheroo> Cyde: I am getting the same nonsense
[22:31] <grimboy> Hmm, seems I can't have libumfpack4 and libsuitesparse installed because the both contain the files /usr/lib/libamd.so.1 and /usr/lib/libumfpack.a . Can anyone give me some sort of workaround?
[22:31] <Sonderblade> nickrud: for sharing my disk with windows users?
[22:31] <Cyde> Someone mess up file permissions I suppose?
[22:31] <Cyde> Glad to know I'm not the only one ..
[22:31] <Kl4m> Could anybody explain me why this script wouldn't run on startup if it's in /etc/rc5.d and 777? http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/777620
[22:31] <ubernewhacks> In what order do i install the os's to get xp 32 vista 64 and ubuntu 7.10?
[22:32] <Sir_Sid> Cyde,  no idea lol, but its a known bug and im sure it will be fixed soon
[22:32] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:32] <friedrich> Triplee23, update-rc.d samba remove
[22:32] <Kl4m> Xp, then Vista, then Ubuntu
[22:32] <nickrud> Sonderblade: for whatever, I use it for accessing shares at work, and sharing a bit
[22:32] <Cyde> Sir_Sid: My guess is file permissions are set wrong on the package on the server.
[22:32] <zetheroo> Cyde: nobody has touched my machine... but when I came this morning and wanted to perform the usual updates I got those same errors
[22:32] <rmaj> how to download a   http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1234 something to hard drive (as a file to play offline)?
[22:32] <Triplee23> How do I know which runlevel I am in?
[22:33] <Cyde> zetheroo: No no no, I mean file permissions on the update server, not on your local computer.
[22:33] <Xklark> XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
[22:33] <Xklark> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/unknownContentType.xul
[22:33] <Xklark> Line Number 1, Column 7:
[22:33] <nsteeves> speaking of file permissions:  if mirrors.kernel.org rsyncs with archive.ubuntu.com, won't the over-restrictive permissions be preserved?
[22:33] <nickrud> zetheroo: it's a problem at their end, not yours. Read the topic
[22:33] <Xklark> why do i get that error when trying to downlaod something?
[22:33] <nsteeves> (in the mirror)
[22:33] <mneptok> !paste | Xklark
[22:33] <ubotu> Xklark: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:33] <Morrowyn> hi, i have a question, when i open /etc/fstab, i see this #/dev/hda1 UUID, doesnt the # mean that that line is commented out, yet the system mounts /dev/hda1 to / any idea why this is or do i need to configure the mounting of other harddisks somewhere else in ubuntu?
[22:33] <zetheroo> Cyde: yes, it would have to be on their end
[22:33] <ubernewhacks> kl4m: ok, after I install vista I'll come back and get someone to help me with learning how to get ubuntu also. that sound good?
[22:33] <zetheroo> nickrud: what topic?
[22:33] <friedrich> Morrowyn, it just uses uuids instead of names
[22:34] <nickrud> !uuid | Morrowyn (new naming scheme, for libata compatibility)
[22:34] <ubotu> Morrowyn (new naming scheme, for libata compatibility): To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[22:34] <kazol2> cafuego: So it depends on the OS, not the actual CPU architecture?
[22:34] <nsteeves> :-D  I guess over-restrictive permissions weren't preserved.
[22:34] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:34] <friedrich> somebody kill zetheroo
[22:34] <nickrud> zetheroo: the channel topic, if you're in xchat it's the window at the top; you can see it by typing /topic
[22:34] <Morrowyn> so, i just add my new harddisk to /etc/fstab, but using this new naming schema right?
[22:34] <Kl4m> ubernewhacks: you should keep some space for the other os(es) partitions(s) on every install
[22:34] <nickrud> Morrowyn: yes, and blkid will tell you the uuid
[22:35] <zetheroo> nickrud: oh ok.... I had to double click on it to see it
[22:35] <friedrich> Morrowyn, you can use old schema
[22:35] <Morrowyn> okies
[22:35] <rdpb> funny think happens ok
[22:35] <Kl4m> I think gparted can help with adding disks
[22:35] <box1> Hello
[22:35] <larson15> can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong when i try to use my ubuntu live cd?
[22:35] <Morrowyn> yeah, /dev/sda1 means more to me, than, UUID=and-lot-of-numbers
[22:35] <rdpb> in ubuntu i manage to start installation with dmraid support
[22:36] <rdpb> in kubuntu is more difficult
[22:36] <xivanari> heya ill ask again, does anyone here know a way i could fix the problem with the huge titlebar fonts?
[22:36] <nickrud> Morrowyn: be aware though, that the dev/<id> can change out from under you some day
[22:36] <friedrich> larson15, in what way do you use it?
[22:36] <box1> I'm trying to do basic updates on a fresh gutsy install however I get the error: "Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1
[22:36] <box1>   403 Forbidden
[22:36] <box1> "  Will someone please guide me?
[22:36] <mneptok> box1: /topic
[22:36] <rdpb> i know that i will have problem next with grun installation :( in raid. if i can manage to go so far
[22:36] <Morrowyn> nickrud, good point there
[22:36] <erUSUL> box1: see the topic
[22:36] <larson15> i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive
[22:36] <friedrich> rdpb, why not install ubuntu and kubuntu after that?
[22:37] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:37] <rdpb> friedrich: i didnt realize that it will more easy in ubuntu from kubuntu and i dont know the why
[22:37] <nickrud> jsschmid1: have you installed linux-source ?
[22:37] <rdpb> i dont like gnome and that why i didnt use it at all the ubuntu
[22:38] <box1> Ok, so I wanted to remove all samba related packages, and uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, however upon reinstall of ubuntu-desktop, it wants to install samba again, hence my problems.  Is this a system reinstall?
[22:38] <Triplee23> How do I know which runlevel is active? I don't have GUI?
 did you see my post
[22:38] <nickrud> Triplee23: runlevel in a terminal
[22:38] <eracc> http://www.channelinsider.com/print_article/Do+Your+Customers+Hate+Vista+Rip+and+Replace+with+a+Twist/218994.aspx
[22:38] <Arthanix> now what did ubuntu do.... can't update anything.... just because of the samba...
[22:38] <stroyan> Triplee23: netatalk should have been configured to run when you installed the ubuntu package.  You can check if it is failing on start by running "sudo /etc/init.d/netatalk restart" and studying the resulting output.
[22:38] <erUSUL> box1: just wait untill the issue is resolved... (maybe as a workaraund you can disable security updates tempor...)
[22:38] <friedrich> larson15, only about of livecd using way :)
[22:39] <stroyan> Triplee23: You can also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure netatalk" to see if it reinstalls better than the first time.
[22:39] <box1> mneptok erUSUL: I removed ubuntu-desktop
[22:39] <larson15> i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive
[22:39] <Xklark> i downloaded the packages from a mirror site, yet when i try to install it - it still keeps trying to download the other 2 files from ubuntu
[22:39] <nsteeves> oh my...
 i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive
[22:39] <nsteeves> Turns out there were more problems with the patch and all releases have been disabled. Updated packages for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty and Gutsy will be provided soon.
[22:39] <nickrud> Arthanix: yeah, someone did a booboo for sure
[22:39] <Xklark> and getting the 403 error
[22:39] <friedrich> box1, try to disable security updates
[22:39] <stroyan> Triplee23: You can see the current runlevel with "who -r"
[22:39] <Xklark> i have all the files its triyng to download..
[22:40] <nsteeves> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163116/comments/3
[22:40] <box1> erUSUL: If I disable security, can I reinstall ubuntu-destkop with no samba?
[22:40]  * box1 tries
[22:40] <nsteeves> I shouldn't have switched mirrors
[22:40] <erUSUL> box1: it will use the version aviable on the other repos afaics
[22:40] <nickrud> Xklark: you have an ubuntu source listed somewhere ... and I think you should read what nsteeves just posted if you need samba functionality now
 i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive, can anyone contact me in a private chat or msn messenger
[22:41] <Xklark> so my best bet is just to wait?
[22:41] <Xklark> till they fix it?
[22:41] <larson15> or aol chat
[22:41] <friedrich> box1, yes
[22:41] <box1> erUSUL: trying now...
[22:41] <box1> thanks
[22:41] <friedrich> It must be update concerning recent CIFS hole
[22:41] <Arthanix> grrr.. I was installing my brand new mythtv box... now I can't finnish it because of this samba crap
[22:41] <Triplee23> Thanx nickrun and stroyan!
[22:41] <pipegeek> arrrrgh
[22:41] <Pelo> !install | larson15
[22:41] <ubotu> larson15: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:41] <friedrich> Arthanix, you too
[22:41] <pipegeek> both tilda and yakuake in gutsy are broken
[22:41] <maxb> It's very irritating. Surely it would be better to just have removed the samba update from the Packages file
[22:42] <Xklark> nickrud: should i just wait till they fix it? then try it later?
[22:42] <box1> erUSUL: friedrich: It's downloading samba now, thanks for your help
[22:42] <erUSUL> box1: no problem
[22:42] <Xklark> wait, box1 how did you do it?
[22:42] <friedrich> Xklark, disable security updates
[22:42] <erUSUL> box1: enable security again asap
[22:42] <Triplee23> I update the value in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships from 1 to 2 but every time I boot, the value is reset to 1. Anyone who knows how I can prevent this?
[22:42] <blah569> I want to install Ubuntu, but before I do, most of the stuff I do is Windows related, but, I need Ubuntu for some C++, but, since the most of the stuff I do is Windows only, I can't quiet think of any reason to actually boot up into Ubuntu constatly, can anyone give my some conviceing reasons to actually use Ubuntu constasntly?
[22:42] <Xklark> ok thanks
[22:42] <nickrud> Xklark: I'd wait till it was fixed; you could also take erUSUL 's advice and comment out security for now
[22:42] <box1> erUSUL: Righto
[22:43] <Pelo> blah569,  just try the live cd , see if you like it
[22:43] <box1> Xklark: Got it?
[22:43] <Xklark> uhm
[22:43] <Kl4m> Could anybody explain me why this script wouldn't run on startup if it's in /etc/rc5.d and 777? http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/777620
[22:43] <blah569> I've tried the Live CD, countless of times before.
[22:43] <nickrud> blah569: run ubuntu, and windows in a vm.
[22:43] <jalguy> blah, was in the same shoes a few months ago, I found work arounds and am enjoying linux very much
[22:43] <Xklark> explain again box1 - sorry im new :(
[22:43] <blah569> I have.
[22:43] <jsschmid1> !kernel
[22:43] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[22:43] <Pelo> Kl4m, permission maybe ?
[22:44] <blah569> I have emulated Ubuntu a lot, as well.
[22:44] <Xklark> i have the update settings opened
[22:44] <box1> Hey, any idea how soon the samba package will be fixed?
[22:44] <blah569> I've been messing with Ubuntu at like the beginning of 2006.
[22:44] <friedrich> erUSUL, you was first. Sorry, haven't seen your advice :)
[22:44] <mynyml> if i installed an app with make install, is there usually a way to uninstall it? what would the file be called?
[22:44] <box1> Xklark: I just edited my sources.list file but you should probably use synaptic
[22:44] <friedrich> mynyml, make uninstall
[22:44] <ubernewhacks> so can anyone give me a link to a tut for xp vista ubuntu before i start formatting my harddrive?
[22:44] <friedrich> if it supports.
[22:44] <jsschmid1> nickrud: I did the following: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.22                       apt-get source linux-source-2.6.22
[22:44] <nickrud> mynyml: if the developer was kind, make uninstall
[22:44] <tommax1083> i cant connect to ##java channel... when i try system reply that username are not registred...how i can connect to ##java channel?
[22:45] <box1> nickrud:-)
[22:45] <erUSUL> friedrich: bad bad bad :P trying to steal my patented fix-o-matic for ubuntu XD
[22:45] <friedrich> tommax1083, /ns register help
[22:45] <Pelo> blah569,  if messing with ubuntu since 2006 has not given you sufficent reasons to use it as your main os, there is little we can say to change it
[22:45] <stroyan> Triplee23: Set the net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships value in /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be set at boot time.
[22:45] <friedrich> erUSUL, :`(
[22:45] <friedrich> Will you sue me?
[22:45] <nickrud> jsschmid1: not sure then, I haven't done a kernel compile in a couple of years
[22:46] <Xklark> box1: i still get the 403 error when installing from synaptic
[22:46] <erUSUL> friedrich: for a trillion $'s no less XD
[22:46] <Triplee23> stroyan: thanx
[22:46] <friedrich> erUSUL, damned
[22:46] <box1> Xklark: Ok, I will help you stand by
[22:46] <nickrud> Xklark: you need to do update (reload?) first
[22:47] <blah569> I need Ubuntu to do some C and C++ stuff, however.  I just wonder if I should buy another laptop, and install Ubuntu on that, because I can't quiet thing of any reason I wouldn't constantly boot into Ubuntu unless I'm doing some C or C++ work.
[22:47] <Xklark> nickrud: what? sorry im new to ubuntu :(
[22:47] <box1> Is this the same chan on freenode as the ubuntu servers?
[22:47] <rapid> blah569: you should look at virtualization if you'd like to save some money
[22:47] <rmaj> blah569: hmm?
[22:47] <rmaj> blah569: you can obviusly devleop c++ in ubuntu
[22:48] <box1> nickrud: I'll help him in a sec,can you answer my question? ^^^
[22:48] <blah569> I know.
[22:48] <friedrich> blah569, xen rules!
[22:48] <dejai> Just install wine
[22:48] <nickrud> Xklark: the reload button will update your sources, removing the security sources.
[22:48] <nickrud> box1: which one?
[22:48] <box1> Is this the same chan on freenode as the ubuntu servers?
[22:48] <rapid> Ahuh
[22:48] <Nadhr_> will  AutoCAD run on wine?
[22:48] <dejai> With Ubuntu with a bit of configuring you should be able to do, a lot more than you can on any other non unix like operating system
[22:49] <Pelo> box1,  the ubuntu server is on freenode
[22:49] <Pelo> Nadhr_, not realy , r14 works but is clucky
[22:49] <nickrud> box1: I do believe so, this is the 'official' channel
[22:49] <Xklark> nickrud: i have no idea what reload button your talking about
[22:49] <Xklark> sorry for being slow
[22:49] <dejai> It should allow the application of programs such as that but its at you personal discretion to try that.
[22:49] <nickrud> Xklark: on synaptic, left button below the menu bar
[22:49] <Xklark> Oh
[22:49] <danny> i need help getting a mac like theme for ubuntu 7.10
[22:49] <friedrich> Nadhr_, if you have enough money for Autocad you should have enough for WinXP Home
[22:49] <rmaj> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[22:49] <Nadhr_> is it better to run it under virtual box
[22:49] <rmaj> omg
[22:49] <rmaj> \o/
[22:50] <Pelo> danny,  just drag drop the tar.gz file on the theme manager
[22:50] <dejai> Hmm, a mac like theme for Ubnuntu
[22:50] <dejai> Do you also wish to get a mac dock?
[22:50] <Xklark> ok, now what nickrud ?
[22:50] <danny> yes
[22:50] <dejai> Ok
[22:50] <Pelo> rmaj, just ask a question,  stuff like this will get  you booted
[22:50] <Nadhr_> am trying to let my company go for linux
[22:50] <dejai> Give me 20 seconds I will pull some stuff up for you :D
[22:50] <nickrud> Xklark: mark all upgrades, then apply
[22:50] <danny> ok
[22:50] <friedrich> Nadhr_, windows on xen just for autocad
[22:50] <danny> =)
[22:50] <rmaj> anyone can download to hdd and play offline following: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9208418729889410819 ?
[22:50] <rmaj> Pelo: ^
[22:50] <box1> nickrud: Ahh, but my nick is only registered with freenode, thanks :0
[22:51] <FluxD> I am getting this error "You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb on this server."
[22:51] <dejai> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[22:51] <gogeta> :)
[22:51] <nickrud> box1: what domain are you logged onto, I only know of the irc.freenode.net getting me here
[22:51] <FluxD> is the file not there anyomore?
[22:51] <dejai> That is the most likely resource to find a mac theme (http://www.gnome-look.org/_
[22:51] <Nadhr_> i've tried virtualbox but xen
[22:51] <Pelo> rmaj,  look play it in the browser and then ( without closing the browser) , check in /tmp
[22:51] <Xklark> nickrud: i did that, still getting the same error
[22:51] <gogeta> Nadhr_ depends on the pc
[22:51] <nickrud> FluxD: it's broke, wait a while.
[22:51] <danny> thanks
[22:52] <rmaj> Pelo: /tmp O_o ?
[22:52] <dejai> As for the Ubuntu/ Mac Doc (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Mac_Dock_on_Ubuntu_Howto)
[22:52] <box1> nickrud: Doesn't matter, are you helping Xklark?
[22:52] <Nadhr_> is xen faster than virtualbox
[22:52] <gogeta> Nadhr_if they have hardware vitulation then using kqemu would be ast
[22:52] <Pelo> rmaj,  the /tmp folder on your hdd
[22:52] <FluxD> nickrud: thx
[22:52] <Xklark> nickrud ill leave you alone - i can ask box1 if you want
[22:52] <gogeta> Nadhr_ otherwise vmware is gonna preform the best
[22:52] <Xklark> box1, query?
[22:52] <SliMM> is there an equivalent of ctrl+alt+del from windows in ubuntu (gnome)
[22:52] <scottdkoder> Xklark: Check your pm, I am box1
[22:52] <SliMM> ?
[22:53] <friedrich> Nadhr_, really, if it works - son't touch it
[22:53] <dejai> May I ask if anyone has found a functional IDE with a friendly interface ?
[22:53] <Xklark> ok
[22:53] <nickrud> Xklark: then you haven't disabled the security source yet, settings->repositories, updates tab, uncheck important security updates
[22:53] <icanic> hi
[22:53] <gogeta> SliMM yea ctrl alt delete
[22:53] <gogeta> lol
[22:53] <Xklark> OH
[22:53] <erUSUL> dejai: emacs XD lol
[22:53] <friedrich> Linux just for linux... You'll spend more money and time to make it work
[22:53] <gogeta> SliMM or do you mean the prosses manager
[22:53] <icanic> can someone help me with ubuntu on imac :-)
[22:53] <nickrud> Xklark: then reload, mark for upgrades, and apply
[22:53] <SliMM> dejai: i like gedit, but geany is quite good
[22:53] <dejai> Thanks.
[22:53] <SliMM> gogeta: what does ctrl alt del do?
[22:54] <gogeta> SliMM reboots system
[22:54]  * nickrud thinks a joke just whiffed
[22:54] <gogeta> SliMM ctrl alt backspace reboots x
[22:54] <kode> SliMM: reboots system if in console
[22:54]  * scottDkoDer thinks #ubuntu should be divided into specific topic sections
[22:54] <ticnailer69> how can I change my settings from 16 bit color to 32 bit color?
[22:54] <Nadhr_> what do u mean?
[22:54] <SliMM> yeah, well a process manager with a high nice value would be great
[22:54] <Vladimir32tl> hi! can anyone help: ive got a c: and d: (empty) drive and wish to install ubuntu on d: if i rub the live cd will ubuntu give me a chance to install on d: and still get dual boot with xp (which is on c:) without having to do any partitions?
[22:54]  * Pelo pats nickrud  on the shoulder: it happens
[22:55] <gogeta> SliMM in a term use ps -A
[22:55]  * nickrud preens, cuz it wasn't his :)
[22:55] <gogeta> shows everything running
[22:55] <Juerd> My screen keeps blanking after a while
[22:55] <danny> at www.gnome-look.com is it gdm themes?
[22:55] <ticnailer69> I'm trying to run a game and it says that a window cannot be created without using 32 bit color setting
[22:55] <friedrich> Nadhr_, think twice before moving your office to linux
[22:55] <Kalamarencu> hello
[22:55] <Nadhr_> why?
[22:55] <Juerd> I've disabled the screen saver, set the time to "never" in the energy options, even did "xset s off", but the damn thing keeps blanking after a while. Even during video playback!
[22:55] <gogeta> SliMM you can eyther use the number to kill like kill 7564 or kallall appname
[22:55] <Juerd> Any hints?
[22:55] <SliMM> gogeta: this is my scenario: i'm in a game on my not-so-good computer, and it freezes, what do i do?
[22:55] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl, yes pretty much,  but I suggest you set your bios to boot from d before installing, that way grub will install completely to d and leave c alone,  you'll be able to remove either hdd with no issue
[22:55] <smallfields> hi, i have a fresh installation of ubuntu 7.10, i have done some updates, but i cant do others, i get an error "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[22:55] <smallfields>   403 Forbidden"
[22:56] <nickrud> And hello, Pelo
[22:56] <Kalamarencu> !setup RDP
[22:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setup rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:56] <erUSUL> smallfields: see the topic please
[22:56] <Arko> i got this error: "Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution". Which package should I install?
[22:56] <gogeta> SliMM ps-A find game in list killall game
[22:56] <ticnailer69> Nadhr_, That is just what they require. I don't know why to be honest.
[22:56] <smallfields> ups
[22:56] <Pelo> smallfields,  don'T worry to much about it , the server might be having some issues,  try again later
[22:56] <Triplee23> stroyan: I added this to /etc/sysctl.conf  "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships=2" but unfortunately it was reset to 1 after boot. Any ideas?
[22:56] <gogeta> SliMM if using dedega then its always killall wine
[22:56] <Kalamarencu> anyone knows how to set up RDP to connect to a windows xp machine?
[22:56] <friedrich> Nadhr_, it's an excellent system but you should decide why exactly do you need it. If it's just a wish "I don't like Windows"... it's not good idea
[22:56] <smallfields> ok, thank you very much
[22:56] <gogeta> SliMM ctrol alt f1 to get to a text term
[22:56] <SliMM> gogeta: good, how do i open the terminal if i am in the game?
[22:57] <gogeta> SliMM if x is frozen
[22:57]  * ifco is desparate
[22:57] <SliMM> oh
[22:57] <SliMM> gogeta: thanks
[22:57] <Kalamarencu> anyone knows how to set up RDP to connect to a windows xp machine?
[22:57] <Pelo> ifco,  needs to state his problem
[22:57] <ifco> hey quys
[22:57] <gogeta> SliMM ctrl alt f7 to return to x
[22:57] <jjfourtwenty> hey
[22:57] <stroyan> Triplee23: Does "sysctl net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" report 1?
[22:57] <ifco> yeah, my problem is big
[22:57] <pike_> Kalamarencu: i normally just use rdesktop   like rdesktop ipaddress
[22:57] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: what happens if i dont go into bios to change anything, will i still get dual boot option even if its not grub?
[22:57] <Pelo> !enter | ifco
[22:57] <ubotu> ifco: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:58] <ifco> currently on livecd, my win or lin wont boot :(
[22:58] <sutabi> Anyone know of any graphics cards that just work well on ubuntu? Right now I have a radeon 9600 but there is no 3d acceleration, plus its getting outdated so I want to buy a new one anyways
[22:58] <pike_> Kalamarencu: imo its alot better than the windows tool i prefer it anyway as a client
[22:58] <ata4ix> hmm... grab 1.5 is allows to edit the line of the boot cmd, but not save them after restart :(
[22:58] <Triplee23> stroyan: I reports 2 now but I set it to 2 manually after boot.
[22:58] <ata4ix> what need to do?
[22:58] <RichW> ifco: bootloader?
[22:58] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl,  you wil have grub phase one on one hdd and phase two on the other, wich means that you will always need both hdd in the comp to use either, my way you can remove either and still have a working comp
[22:58] <ifco> yeah bootloader
[22:58] <friedrich> sutabi, modern nvidia and amd-ati cards both work good
[22:59] <Arko> hmmm
[22:59] <Kalamarencu> pike_,I do not use the command line, It is the one with gui
[22:59] <nickrud> ata4ix: if you mean grub, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make those changes permanent
[22:59] <RichW> ifco: lots of guides on fixing grub, its not hard
[22:59] <ata4ix> oh!
[22:59] <ifco> am quite a newbie to linux, have been searchin for help in forums and everywhere, nothing helped
[22:59] <friedrich> sutabi, even Radeon 9600 with propietary drivers will be excelent card
[22:59] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: i only have one hdd but with 2 partitions on it already (c: is used by xp and d is empty)
[22:59] <jjfourtwenty> i use supergrub for all gurb probs
[22:59] <jjfourtwenty> its easy
[22:59] <pike_> Kalamarencu: try grdesktop
[22:59] <Kalamarencu> pike_, are we talking about the same thing? If I connect to a Windows XP machine do I need to create a user?
[22:59] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl,  ignore everything I said then, just install ubuntu to your d partition and be happy
[23:00] <Kalamarencu> pike_, will Do :)
[23:00] <ifco> i have just burnt it on other pc but even the super grub wont boot from cd!!
[23:00] <gogeta> Kalamarencu can use your reg xp user name if connecting to xp
[23:00] <stroyan> Triplee23: Does "sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships=4" set it to 4? Does "sudo sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf" get back to the setting you want?
[23:00] <ifco> everything else boots from cds, dunno why is that
[23:00] <ata4ix> thanks! ^)
[23:00] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: thanks! im a first time linux user. and by the way, if i decide to uninstall ubutnu on d:, is it possible?
[23:00] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl very
[23:01] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl,  you'll just hve to restore the windows mbr to get rid of grub
[23:01] <sutabi> friedrich: I am running ati's propietary driver the most recent and right now it just throws me to the config to detect my card and display
[23:01] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: how do i restore windows mbr?
[23:01] <Cpudan80> Getting rid of GRUB is a simple procedure
[23:01] <gogeta> Pelo no he whont if installing again it will replace grub
[23:01] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl, google
[23:01] <ifco> my problem is that i installed ubuntu on a partition on an external hdd, i guess it messed up my mbr or whatever
[23:01] <ata4ix> and how to set the screen resolution in text mode for grub? at high i have only 80x60 vga=6... but how to set 120x80 and other custom resultions?
[23:01] <Cpudan80> Vladimir32tl: cross that bridge when you come to it
[23:01] <Cpudan80> if you come to it
[23:01] <ata4ix> grub
[23:01] <Cpudan80> Vladimir32tl: ##windows
[23:02] <Pelo> gogeta, I think he meant to just remove ubuntu and still have is windows install working properly
[23:02] <ata4ix> Vladimir fdisk /mbr
[23:02] <Juerd> Found the solution for the screen blanking.
[23:02] <pike_> thats one reason i think ubuntu should setup a sep /boot partition
[23:02] <SliMM> gogeta: well, X failed to resume
[23:02] <Vladimir32tl> i hope things work well. im getting tired on windows (especially the new vista version(s)<-- 6 versions or something?) i think linux is much better because of its open source advantage
[23:03] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl use xp install cd and push the buttion for recovery console login with your admin account type fixmbr
[23:03] <ata4ix> Juerd?
[23:03] <lakin> Argh.  No sound in enemy-territory and I've followed all of the instructions I can find in the forums
[23:03] <Cpudan80> Vladimir32tl: MS is hemorrhaging customers because of Vista
[23:03] <ata4ix> agree with gogeta
[23:03] <ifco> pike_ so what, should i set another boot partition or ..
[23:03] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[23:03] <Juerd> ata4ix: I asked a question 8 minutes ago, and found the solution myself.
[23:03] <Cpudan80> Many are either staying with XP or switching to *nix
[23:03] <gogeta> SliMM well you can ctrl alt backspace to reboot x
[23:03] <Pelo> later folks
[23:03] <gogeta> SliMM when game frezzes
[23:04] <Cpudan80> Vista's sales figures are only propped up by the OEMs
[23:04] <Whisperkiller> how do i change user to root in terminal?
[23:04] <hubuntu> anyone knows how to redirect a page to another page in moin moin (ubuntu wiki)?
[23:04] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: but since ill have dual boot in grub, cant i enter xp and delete all files on d: drive -- or will that not work?
[23:04] <Cpudan80> Whisperkiller: sudo -i
[23:04] <pike_> ifco: well you dont need to i just like to have my mbr and /boot intact if i decide to wipe a partition or whatever
[23:04] <ata4ix> Jured where is you found this? :) please tell me
[23:04] <ata4ix> the same quaestion? not
[23:04] <SliMM> gogeta: yes, i know that, but i would rather stop the game and continue my work
[23:04] <Juerd> ata4ix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341617 the post by Juantao
[23:04] <erUSUL> !root | Whisperkiller
[23:04] <ubotu> Whisperkiller: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:04] <hubuntu> or is there a channel for ubuntu wiki?
[23:04] <erUSUL> Whisperkiller: you can get a "root shell" via 'sudo -i'
[23:05] <hubuntu> !moin moin
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moin moin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <ata4ix> gracias!
[23:05] <hubuntu> !ubuntu wiki
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu wiki - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl no you have to reformat d to a windoes format
[23:05] <hubuntu> !ubuntuwiki
[23:05] <Some_Person> Is there an error in security.ubuntu.com?
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuwiki - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <ifco> pike_ right thats u but i dont have it so my grub just stops with the error 21 everytime..
[23:05] <Whisperkiller> thats what i wanted to know
[23:05] <RichW> what is ubuntu going to do about #ubuntu as it gets more popular, wont it get overcrowded?
[23:05] <nickrud> Some_Person: see the topic
[23:05] <Some_Person> !wiki | hubuntu
[23:05] <ubotu> hubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[23:05] <Whisperkiller> how do i close the root shell?
[23:05] <SliMM> gogeta: is it because i have just 100 MB of swap why i can't resume X?
[23:05] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl and if you do that befor fixing the mbr your system whont boot when you do couse grub will crash
[23:05] <erUSUL> Whisperkiller: exit
[23:05] <Some_Person> thanks, nickrud
[23:05] <nickrud> RichW: lol, it's gone from 200 or so to 1200 now, I don't think so
[23:05] <Whisperkiller> thanks so much
[23:05] <andi5> is there something like a "floating topic line"? ;-)
[23:05] <lounge-about> i need some help removing a stubborn package
[23:06] <gogeta> SliMM no idea might be a video card issue
[23:06] <bruenig> RichW, the combined stupidity of such a room will reach infinity causing the universe to implode I think
[23:06] <gogeta> SliMM aris can be flaky
[23:06] <ifco> #ubuntu-cz
[23:06] <gogeta> atis
[23:06] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: makes sense... so what would be the easiest wall to reformat d: to ntfs?
[23:06] <ifco> fok
[23:06] <eugman> I want to make some simple econimc diagrams, anyone know of a good program to make cartesian graphs?
[23:06] <RichW> nice reply :)
[23:06] <Vladimir32tl> *way
[23:06] <humbolto> Why does the Xen kernel not support CPU frequency scaling? Does not make much sense considering that some people want to use Xen for running Windows and Linux side by side on their laptops.
[23:07] <Ax-Ax> i cant get into bios, but i guess this isn't is the right chanel
[23:07] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl  you can use the linux installer cd to format it to vfat i beleve
[23:07] <danny> i need help im at www.gnome-look.org and i have ubuntu 7.10 i want a mac os x theme and i dont know what tap i chose GDM theme GTK 2.x or GTK 1.x
[23:07] <danny> ?
[23:07] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl then use windows to make it ntfs
[23:07] <nickrud> lounge-about: could you put the output of apt-get -f install on a pastebin?
[23:07] <andi5> danny: GTK 2.x
[23:07] <nanonyme> i'm getting 403 forbidden for http://security.ubuntu.com
[23:07] <danny> thanks
[23:07] <jonte> Hey people.. Any ideas on how I can create an EXPANDING truecrypt volume? I don't want it to allocate space directly when created.
[23:07] <crdlb> !sambabug | nanonyme
[23:07] <ubotu> nanonyme: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:07] <dx9s_home> anybody have an expected timeframe on fixing the permissions issue on *samba* 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 stuff?
[23:07] <nanonyme> ahm
[23:07] <Vladimir32tl> thanks gogeta
[23:07] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl or partation magic for windows
[23:07] <lounge-about> nickrud: possibly?
[23:08] <PriceChild> dx9s_home, will be done when its done
[23:08] <Some_Person> nonoyme: look at the topic
[23:08] <PriceChild> dx9s_home, please just be patient
[23:08] <nickrud> lounge-about: that will show the errors, probably fixable ;)
[23:08] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl oor evein the xp installer cd
[23:08] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl or even plain old fdisk
[23:08] <lounge-about> nickrud: i have the error already, i just dont know what to do
[23:08] <Triplee23> stroyan: Yes, what did I do?
[23:08] <dx9s_home> PriceChild, TY ... just curious seems like it is a simple permissions thing thing ... perhaps there is more ;)
[23:08] <dwees> anyone know when the samba upgrade will be 'unbroken'?
[23:08] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl plenty of ways
[23:08] <nickrud> lounge-about: so show it already
[23:08] <Ely> Hello everyone
[23:08] <eugman> Anyone know a program I can draw graphs with?
[23:09] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: i dont have xp installer cd, i bought the pc without one, instead i have a "recovery disk" but all that does is restore the pc to when i first bought the pc
[23:09] <dwees> eugman: what kind of graph?
[23:09] <dwees> eugman: function type?
[23:09] <crdlb> dx9s_home: they changed the permissions because the package is broken (to prevent people from downloading it)
[23:09] <erUSUL> eugman: a spreadsheet ??
[23:09] <dwees> eugman: Geogebra
[23:09] <RichW> !grub
[23:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:09] <dx9s_home> crdlb, I figured as much
[23:09] <dx9s_home> crdlb, TY
[23:09] <RichW> that might be useful to someone here
[23:09] <nickrud> xplot?
[23:09] <Some_Person> Is there a Windows Media Center-type thingybob for Ubutnu?
[23:09] <PriceChild> dx9s_home, permissions have been changed on the files so you can't download them
[23:09] <lounge-about> nickrud:
[23:09] <lounge-about> Removing opendchub ...
[23:09] <erUSUL> Some_Person: mythtv
[23:09] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl ack
[23:09] <lounge-about> Stopping Open DC Hub: opendchubTerminated
[23:09] <nickrud> lounge-about: stop
[23:10] <lounge-about> invoke-rc.d: initscript opendchub, action "stop" failed.
[23:10] <lounge-about> dpkg: error processing opendchub (--remove):
[23:10] <lounge-about>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 143
[23:10] <lounge-about> Starting Open DC Hub: opendchub already running.
[23:10] <lounge-about> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:10] <lounge-about>  opendchub
[23:10] <RichW> !mythtv
[23:10] <Arko> I typed cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ubuntu/media/ and it says that there is no such file or directory. Did I miss any package during installation?
[23:10] <RichW> hmm
[23:10] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[23:10] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl then you need to use the grub live cd to restore the mbr
[23:10] <ljpp> hi ppl, what is the Pidgin settings directory in ubuntu?
[23:10] <Amon_Re> Hey peeps
[23:10] <RichW> Some_Person: See what ubotu said.
[23:10] <dwees> eugman: www.geogebra.org
[23:10] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl thers a gpartationd cd to
[23:10] <Amon_Re> Does anyone have any links on information on how to make .deb files?
[23:10] <Some_Person> erUSUL, RichW: MythTV only does the TV stuff
[23:10] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl you can use to restore the drive to a windows format
[23:10] <eugman> dwees: just like a f(x) kind of graph
[23:10] <ljpp> I want to create an ln to my windows pidgin settings but cant find them in Ubuntu
[23:10] <Vladimir32tl> anyways, i dont see how windows will stay up: the fact is linux is a much better os and its free - hopefully thanks to ubuntu microsoft will slowly dwindle to nothing
[23:11] <nickrud> lounge-about: run apt-get -f install , copy and paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:11] <riotkittie> sigh.
[23:11] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl then why remove it
[23:11] <RichW> Some_Person: I use it for everything, music, movies the works
[23:11] <dwees> eugman: yeah see www.geogebra.org, it's a Java based program
[23:11] <eugman> erUSUL: No, more like simple lines or curves on a grid to show a point
[23:11] <eugman> dwees: ohhh
[23:11] <lounge-about> nickrud: is that another channel?
[23:11] <nickrud> riotkittie: a bad day?
[23:11] <andi5> ljpp: ~/.purple?
[23:11] <erUSUL> eugman: gnuplot, scigraphica
[23:11] <riotkittie> nickrud: no :x
[23:11] <eugman> thanks guys
[23:11] <nickrud> lounge-about: no, it's a web site you can paste text to for all to see
[23:11] <fox32> i need help with WIFI and debian
[23:12] <bruenig> fox32, ask
[23:12] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: well i realize no os is perfect, so its just a matter of understanding the process in case anything happens
[23:12] <gogeta> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[23:12] <gogeta> the partationer
[23:12] <ata4ix> how i can autostart some programs with logon under X for concretical user?
[23:12] <erUSUL> fox32: /join #debian
[23:12] <Vladimir32tl> ...or to completely remove windows from c if it comes to that
[23:12] <PriceChild> !startup | ata4ix
[23:12] <ubotu> ata4ix: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[23:12] <fox32> erUSUL: they arent helping much
[23:12] <ata4ix> KDE?
[23:12] <ata4ix> for
[23:13] <Vladimir32tl> i really like ubuntu (used live cd and wubi before) but it seems it still lacks the "simplicity" factor. but again every os has problems and hopefully ubuntu will get better (although its already easy to use)
[23:13] <desertc> How could it be more simple?
[23:13] <dx9s_home> heh
[23:14] <nickrud> rflol
[23:14] <gogeta> !grub
[23:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:14] <ata4ix> how to setup xorg for DVI?
[23:14] <raranp> echo desertc
[23:14] <dwees> there's tonnes of information on the web to help out ubuntu users
[23:14] <dwees> as a new ubuntu user myself I can verify that it has helped me get up to speed quickly on the basics
[23:14] <Some_Person> Vladimir32tl: What do you mean by "simplicity factor'?
[23:14] <RichW> Where does LIRC put its error logs? As it crashed.
[23:14] <Vladimir32tl> well.. i gues those who have been using windows have this sort of "bridge" to cross over - many gui things are different -- it just takes time to get used to
[23:14] <desertc> Really - if there were ways to make it simpler, then I think Ubuntu would like to move in that direction.
[23:15] <Lattyware> That's not simplicity, that's 'being exactly like windows'
[23:15] <Lattyware> which is not the aim
[23:15] <Gorgory> nem desisto de config o fluxbox aff
[23:15] <gogeta> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[23:15] <raranp> I believe windows would be harder to learn from scratch
[23:15] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[23:15] <andi5> raranp: seconded
[23:15] <Lattyware> raranp: indeed
[23:16] <kevin> does anyone know why cd burning fails for me with gutsy?
[23:16] <desertc> Windows is harder to learn -- they've done some human factor studies on it.
[23:16] <nickrud> I kinda like the philosophy of writing stuff to scratch itches, luckily many of my itchy places match coder's
[23:16] <andi5> kevin: are you using the file browser (nautilus)?
[23:16] <Vladimir32tl> although ubuntu is great, nonetheless its different... but again if everyone used linux at first then making a switch to windows would be difficult--its just a perspective
[23:16] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl using those 2 live cds you can reformat d and restore your mbr
[23:16] <dx9s_home> desertc, pre vista study ?
[23:16] <kevin> i've tried nautilus, k3b, and brasero
[23:16] <desertc> Don't use Windows first?
[23:16] <dwees> interesting fact
[23:16] <jburd> kevin: Have you tried using slower burning speeds?
[23:16] <eugman> dwees: looks nearly perfect, is it possible to makesomething like a parabola?
[23:16] <andi5> kevin: what do you mean by "fails"?
[23:16] <dwees> here in Thailand I can buy a laptop without windows
[23:17] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: thanks for the tip
[23:17] <ljpp> where are the Pidgin settings located in Gutsy?
[23:17] <kevin> yes
[23:17] <dwees> eugman: type y = x^2 into the input line and press enter
[23:17] <kevin> but the lowest choice was 16 x
[23:17] <andi5> ljpp: so have you tried ~/.purple?
[23:17] <jburd> ljpp: ~/.pidgin I suppose?
[23:17] <dwees> and it costs 2/3 of a laptop with windows
[23:17] <jburd> or .purple yes
[23:17] <raranp> dwees is a lucky person
[23:17] <eugman> dwees: awesome. Thanks a lot.
[23:17] <RichW> kevin: Try playing with BIOS settings regading your hard drive/ide/sata configuration
[23:17] <kevin> i heard it was something to do with the kernel
[23:17] <desertc> dwees: But is it a supported solution?
[23:17] <pal_> g
[23:17] <lounge-about> nickrud: ok i pasted it there
[23:17] <Cpudan80> What media player do you guys recommend?
[23:18] <Cpudan80> Ie. iTunes
[23:18] <PriceChild> Cpudan80, rhythmbox
[23:18] <raranp> probably the same laptop you would get here without the branding
[23:18] <PriceChild> Cpudan80, comes installed by deafult
[23:18] <dwees> well it comes with linux instead, so I just install the version of linux I like
[23:18] <erUSUL> !players
[23:18] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[23:18] <Vladimir32tl> btw vista is auwful! so slow on my machine i had to use xp for now -- but want to switch to linux completely... hopefully more commercial areas will be more linux oriented
[23:18] <kevin> i can successfully burn in windows though
[23:18] <dwees> they have themed it so it looks a lot like Windows
[23:18] <Cpudan80> I kinda like banshee
[23:18] <nickrud> lounge-about: ok, now you need to give me the link so I can find it :)
[23:18] <xivanari> how do i restart a process like gtk-window-decorator
[23:18] <dwees> I think they are trying to rip people off, which is funny because that's a common thread here
[23:18] <Cpudan80> I was just lookin for some opinions
[23:18] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl i  dont think it can format ntfs but it can fat32 so you can then use xp to makeit ntfs again
[23:18] <desertc> kevin: I'd like to burn Windows, too.
[23:18] <ljpp> andi5: .purple it seems...wtf is .purple..
[23:18] <Ely> Hello guys how can I make the text under my desktop icons on Ubunto Bold? and is it possible to change its color too?
[23:18] <kevin> lol
[23:18] <xivanari> more specifically, how do i restart the process gtk-window-decorator
[23:19] <Cpudan80> LjL: Pidgin
[23:19] <Cpudan80> oops
[23:19] <lounge-about> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44818/
[23:19] <kevin> i've also tried burning as root
[23:19] <jburd> How does one setup dual-booting Linux installations?   Can I share /boot?  And, if I use LVM per distro, does it cause any problems?
[23:19] <Cpudan80> ljpp: pidgin
[23:19] <dx9s_home> Vladimir32tl, heh you got that right... DRM up the arse! Vista users have been declared enemy combatants and all the DRM is huge... 400MB is memory used on a fresh installed/booted Vista machine?  We'll probably make a small change there to allow you to uninstall
[23:20] <xivanari> apparently i cannot save after i edit it
[23:20] <xristian> ehlo sckrz, any fckn idea how to convert a wav file to mp3
[23:20] <xivanari> because i dont have the permissions.
[23:20] <dx9s_home> I am sure most have read parts of this: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html (cost of vista)
[23:20] <desertc> I don't like talking about Windows.  It's boring.  Can we get back to the discussion of Ubuntu?
[23:20] <xivanari> but i am the sole user of this computer, why wouldnt i have permissions
[23:21] <Arko> which package has snd_hda_intel module?
[23:21] <gogeta> !windows\
[23:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:21] <nickrud> lounge-about: erm,  /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchup.prerm that is
[23:21] <gogeta> !windows
[23:21] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[23:21] <dx9s_home> good night time reading .. puts you to sleep or gets you sooo heated... you can't sleep!
[23:21] <xivanari> god sometimes ubuntu can be really freakin stupid though lol
[23:21] <kevin> there was an episode of security now where they talked about all the DRM in it, and that was enough to keep me away
[23:21] <Vladimir32tl> dwees: exactly! the only reason people use windows is because they dont know everything, now im the same but i want to learn about linux and get away from the fake perceptions that ms is giving the public - lets face it, how can windows defeat linux in the long run?
[23:21] <buttercups> Ely, change your desktop font to bold, font settings
[23:21] <xivanari> i mean i have to jump through so many hoops to fix the dozens and dozens of bugs and errors.
[23:21] <xivanari> i dont even know what is going on
[23:21] <xivanari> and all my friends who said they would help me have disappeared
[23:21] <xristian> winholez
[23:21] <nickrud> Vladimir32tl: easily, laurels don't always go to the best
[23:22] <Blank_> hate to annoy anyone, but has anyone else been receiving 403 errors on the security repository?
[23:22] <jburd> xivanari: They did the right thing(tm).  :P
[23:22] <jburd> xivanari: That's how you learn.  :P
[23:22] <Ely> buttercups, yes but where?
[23:22] <desertc> !support
[23:22] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[23:22] <nickrud> !sambabug| Blank_
[23:22] <ubotu> Blank_: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:22] <danny> how do i install an con package on ubuntu 7.10?
[23:22] <dx9s_home> Blank_, yes.... those debs are down to fix a problem
[23:22] <danny> ico*
[23:22] <danny> icon*
[23:22] <Blank_> o =/
[23:22] <dwees> vladimir32tl: I noticed that new computers are more often than not having Firefox and Internet Explorer installed
[23:22] <desertc> xivanari: Consider purchasing a system with Ubuntu installed where they also support it.
[23:22] <Blank_> thanks
[23:22] <gogeta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz2FqikcuSM
[23:22] <dx9s_home> Blank_, (pure guess) but I suspect it will be fixed well within 24 hours ;)
[23:23] <buttercups> Ely, System>Preferences>Appearance, font tab
[23:23] <dwees> cool
[23:23] <Blank_> oh ok
[23:23] <xivanari> desertc: no can do, am off to thailand technology free in 11 months
[23:23] <Ely> oh man yeah I just got it
[23:23] <Blank_> yeah, i was hoping the problem wasnt anything more serious
[23:23] <Ely> thanks!
[23:23]  * dx9s_home taunts winholes .. try THAT for turn around time ;)
[23:23] <Vladimir32tl> internet explorer is a joke! version 6 was slow and 7 is even worse - i use firefox always...
[23:23] <dwees> I need to upgrade my version of winbind...
[23:23] <ariane> hi. i'm trying to emulate N64 games with mupen64 and kamefu but neither of them is working. i downloaded roms, unzipped them in a folder and kamefu doesn't even see the files.  mupen64 sees the files but does nothing with them. could someone help me work this out please ?
[23:23] <xivanari> i am attempting to edit the file gdm.conf
[23:23] <xristian> let me tell u somethin. acer is selling nice laptops with linpus precharged
[23:23] <AceOne> jimmy the krack korn and i don't care
[23:23] <lounge-about> nickrud: the file is empty
[23:23] <xivanari> and it will let me edit it fine
[23:23] <xivanari> but it refuses to allow me to save it.
[23:23] <mariocesar_bo> Hello, I just install Ubuntu Server just few seconds ago ... I am getting Fatal Errors when I try to use sudo. like $sudo ls, outputs: sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf no such file or directory
[23:23] <ata4ix> how to change the resolution of console 80x25 to something like a 120x60 or something else, in process of loading of the system? after grub processing
[23:24] <andi5> xivanari: open it as root  (from the commandline: gksudo gedit the_file_name
[23:24] <mariocesar_bo> I am getting so much problems, anyone could helpme with this
[23:24] <toresn> how can i change the dpi settings in Ubuntu? I tried doing it by editing xorg.conf, but the lines seems to be ignored...
[23:24] <TD-Linux> ariane, a lot of emulators are designed to load the .zips
[23:24] <nickrud> lounge-about: damn, if you saw my correction, it was wrong also. This is the correct one: /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchub.prerm , I had a p in place of the b
[23:24] <TD-Linux> and decompress them on the fly
[23:24] <xivanari> andi5:  how do i open it as root
[23:24] <ariane> is mupen64 one of them ?
[23:24] <xivanari> i dont understand command line in ubuntu
[23:24] <simplechat> gksudo gedit /
[23:24] <toresn> the default font size is just too big...
[23:24] <gogeta> isnt that a nice video
[23:24] <simplechat> xivanari, what don't you get?
[23:24] <danny> how do i install an icon package on ubuntu 7.10?
[23:25] <xivanari> a lot of things simplechat
[23:25] <nickrud> danny: open system->prefs->appearance, drag the icon package onto the window
[23:25] <desertc> xivanari: Why are you configuring gdm.conf?
[23:25] <xristian> any audio pro here this room? need to c0nvert wav to mp3.. that too difficult ?
[23:25] <xivanari> ok so i should put gksudo gedit gdm.conf?
[23:25] <andi5> ata4ix: do you mean the resolution of you consoles?  you could specify vesa numbers in your grub configuration (e.g. vga=791 choose 1024x768, iirc)
[23:25] <simplechat> xivanari, whats the first thing? is it just lack of experience or what?
[23:25] <lounge-about> nickrud: actually that file doesnt exist?
[23:25] <ariane> TD-Linux: anyway, mupen64 sees the files but it just doesn't do anything with them
[23:25] <danny> says file format is invalid
[23:25] <xivanari> i am configuring it because my font size is way off
[23:25] <xivanari> and i need to change the dpi stated within that file.
[23:26] <desertc> xivanari: You're complaining about it being too complicated, while you are trying to do super complicated and unnecessary actions.
[23:26] <xivanari> my title font size is bugged to fuck
[23:26] <Vladimir32tl> does ubuntu have some sort of ctrl-alt-del feature?
[23:26] <andi5> Vladimir32tl: feature?
[23:26] <tyler_> My Intel GMA 950 video card is running on a lower res than it's native res, how can i fix it?
[23:26] <xivanari> desertc:  it isnt unnecessarily complicated
[23:26] <xivanari> there is no other fix i have found for this
[23:26] <ata4ix> andi5, yes of console in text mode when system is starting the services...
[23:26] <xivanari> and ive been reading threads in forums on the subject for close to 3 hours now.
[23:26] <Vladimir32tl> well will it ever freeze to the point where i cant get out?
[23:26] <ata4ix> ou
[23:27] <desertc> xivanari: How did your fonts get all screwed up?
[23:27] <andi5> Vladimir32tl: the feature is that the system keeps quite reponsive even in loaded situations
[23:27] <ata4ix> and how to set 1280x1024?
[23:27] <xristian> acer is selling linux precharged on laptops
[23:27] <nickrud> lounge-about: it has to be, do ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchub*
[23:27] <dx9s_home> Vladimir32tl, yes... which one are you interested in.. (and it's not an ubuntu exclusive) .. control-alt-backspace restart's X ... control-alt-F1 to text mode console then control+alt+del will reboot machine
[23:27] <andi5> ata4ix: choose your number from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions
[23:27] <kevin> i'm very happy with the "ehnahced zoom" plugin in compiz, its great
[23:27] <xivanari> desertc: it is a bug inherent in ubuntu gutsy that randomly appears on peoples machines for no (yet) identifyable reason
[23:27] <tyler_> My Intel GMA 950 video card is running on a lower res than it's native res, how can i fix it?
[23:27] <ata4ix> andi5, arigoto!
[23:28] <xivanari> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/141001
[23:28] <xivanari> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575978&highlight=huge+fonts+login
[23:28] <Vladimir32tl> dx9s_home: thanks
[23:28] <xivanari> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592123
[23:28] <xivanari> the list of links could go on
[23:28] <erUSUL> !fixres | tyler_
[23:28] <ubotu> tyler_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:28] <desertc> xivanari: Uninstall Compiz
[23:28] <erUSUL> tyler_: System>Admin>Screen and...
[23:28] <desertc> xivanari: Easy fix, right?
[23:28] <tyler_> !fixres gives me "event not found"
[23:29] <andi5> *g*
[23:29] <nickgoeshere> What distro should I use for a Torrent + UseNET server?  I have an old P3 800Mhz 256Mb of ram... I am new to linux and would like something with a GUI, I figured go Ubuntu, but will it be too much for my old system?
[23:29] <lounge-about> nickrud: ok ya, now it shows up...odd, i scrolled all the way to the top and it wasnt there...oh well now what
[23:29] <erUSUL> tyler_: see the msg from ubotu directed at you
[23:29] <nickrud> lounge-about: ok, put a copy of it on the pastebin, so I can read it.
[23:29] <dx9s_home> I think one thing that surprised me is the older (pre fusion) compiz work on an older dell (5150 w/ GeForce FX mobile) and upgrading to 7.10 + Compiz Fusion .. nada!
[23:30] <xristian> ever heard about how to convert wav to mp3 under ubuntu ?
[23:30] <xivanari> what is compiz and what does it do.
[23:30] <xivanari> will uninstalling it negatively effect my system?
[23:30] <lounge-about> k
[23:30] <tyler_> yeah read that thread but i can't find out what my refresh rates are
[23:30] <tyler_> suppsed to be
[23:30] <dx9s_home> xivanari, just less/no eye candy
[23:30] <desertc> xivanari: Just change the Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects
[23:31] <dx9s_home> *should* be able to remove compiz via something from command line like: "sudo apt-get remove compiz*"
[23:31] <lounge-about> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44819/
[23:31] <michom> hello, how do i extract a .bin file (it's a cd image but i need to extract it)
[23:31] <LiMaO> michom: convert it to ISO then mount it
[23:31] <grigora> I keep getting a 403 Forbidden error from  http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1. Anyone knows what's up?
[23:32] <michom> LiMaO: just renaming?
[23:32] <LiMaO> michom: nope. you need a bin to iso converter
[23:32] <_hopex> does anyone have a BroadCom WiFi card? I'm using Ubuntu and can't make it work, with or without the restrictive driver. Can you help or write a link please?
[23:32] <dx9s_home> grigora, not exactly .. just they disabled access in order to fix something
[23:32] <nickrud> lounge-about: ok, sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchub.prerm , replace set -e with exit 0 , save , and you're good to go
[23:33] <xivanari_> desertc: sounds like an easy fix, but what does compiz do?
[23:33] <xivanari_> i dont want to uninstall something that is an essential program on my machine
[23:33] <lns> WHO here uses iced-tea java (from the new DOKO repository) for Ubuntu Gutsy AMD64 and can verify it's stable?
[23:33] <dx9s_home> xivanari, should search YouTube for videos
[23:33] <lounge-about> nickrud: is nano a text editor?
[23:33] <danny> can somebody give me a nice mac os x icon theme for ubuntu 7.10
[23:33] <Blank_> sure is lounge-about
[23:34] <nickrud> lounge-about: yes, a good quick one
[23:34]  * dx9s_home laughs... yes nano is a text editor.. but still prefers good old vi
[23:34] <danny> !find mac icon
[23:34] <ubotu> Found: emacs-goodies-el, emacsen-common, gij, gij-4.2, libapache2-mod-macro (and 98 others)
[23:34] <nickrud> dx9s_home: erm, vim is evil, emacs is good, nano is always there ;)
[23:34] <LiMaO> am i the only one who likes pico over anything else?
[23:35] <dx9s_home> yeah.. well I actually prefer elvis over vim
[23:35] <nickrud> LiMaO: ooh, you still use that non free thing?
[23:35] <andi5> LiMaO: yes
[23:35] <kevin> does anyone know of a simple program to record video from a tv card to theora?
[23:35] <LiMaO> nickrud: never knew it isn't free hehe
[23:35] <lounge-about> nickrud: ok changed, lets see if it works
[23:36] <erUSUL> tyler_: and in System>Admin>Screen and...graphics?? (my system is spanish so maybe i got the name wrong)
[23:36] <LiMaO> actually nano looks exactly the same as pico
[23:36] <andi5> emacs users might like jed
[23:36] <hello_there> hi
[23:36] <nickrud> LiMaO: yeah, it was designed that way, even named for it
[23:36] <tyler_> yeah thats right
[23:36] <LiMaO> to say the truth, when i run 'pico' it says 'gnu nano' on top of the terminal
[23:36] <hello_there>  can someone show me a sample of /proc/kmsg
[23:37] <lounge-about> woot i think its working
[23:37] <dx9s_home> LiMaO, yes... pico and nano are same bin
[23:37] <raranp> been in vi too long to change, or want to
[23:37] <lounge-about> *high fives nickrud
[23:37] <LiMaO> dx9s_home: oh ok
[23:37] <tyler_> erUSL then what?
[23:37] <nickrud> lounge-about: yw, it's my speciality here :)
[23:37] <dx9s_home> /usr/bin/pico -> /bin/nano  as well as /usr/bin/nano -> /bin/nano
[23:37] <mosibfu> hi, i have a problem with gnome, gnome-failsafe session works fine, but normal session doesnt (it just stays orange after the login sound, no bars, nothing works..) anyone know how i can fix this?
[23:38] <lounge-about> nickrud: so why was that giving me the error? i like to understand why things dont work ;)
[23:38] <nickrud> dx9s_home: yeah, like I said, nano is always there
[23:38] <andi5> dx9s_home: the actual behavior might differ though, as it is with sh vs. bash ($0 is interpreted)
[23:38] <kevin> theora
[23:38] <Triplee23> stroyan: I am still having problems with net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships, any ideas?
[23:38] <nickrud> lounge-about: there was some issue with your dchub server, it wasn't reacting properly
[23:38] <dx9s_home> nickrud,  and with a "sudo apt-get install elvis" ... the king is back!
[23:38] <dx9s_home> heh
[23:38] <desertc> mosibfu: play around with your graphic modes
[23:38] <hello_there>  can someone show me a sample of /proc/kmsg ?
[23:38] <erUSUL> tyler_: set the desired resolution and refresh rate
[23:39] <lounge-about> nickrud: i mean, what did "set -e" break?
[23:39] <hello_there> nobody ?
[23:39] <nickrud> dx9s_home: one day when I was trying to be really slick ( /usr on it's own partition) having nano in /bin saved my machine. Pre live cd's, and I didn't have a toms around
[23:39] <fever84> hey... is there any faq on displaying text files from a bash script
[23:39] <stroyan> Triplee23: If the sysctl -p did set the value as you want, then perhaps it is not being run from /etc/init.d/procps.sh at startup.
[23:39] <pwnt-> how to setup firefox so it view any broadcast streaming with VLC in the browser. I want to make that a default. anybody know?
[23:39] <andi5> hello_there: why that?
[23:40] <mosibfu> desertc: graphic modes? everything worked fine till about 16 mins ago.. err wtf SLI is disabled and i didnt do a thing
[23:40] <hello_there> andi5 just curious
[23:40] <andi5> hello_there: sounds desastrous to me :-D
[23:40] <hello_there> why
[23:41] <mosibfu> desertc: omg that just might be it, sli is on (says nvidia-settings) but it also says second card has NV driver instead of nvidia
[23:41] <dx9s_home> nickrud, yeah... well personal history .. been using slackware (as well as recently ubuntu) since 0.99rXX days .. and it came with elvis...vim is enough different to make me prefer the older one (elvis) over vim ;)
[23:41] <fever84> when bash scripting how do i display text from a file ?
[23:41] <Triplee23> stroyan: I have added this line to sysctl.conf "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships=4", but the value i reset to 1 every time I reboot.  What is procps.sh?
[23:41] <andi5> fever84: cat
[23:41] <pwnt-> hello. anybody know? :o
[23:41] <nickrud> dx9s_home: haven't really used elvis, I probably should at least become familiar with it. Never know what twisted person's machine I might be on ;p
[23:42] <dx9s_home> nickrud, elvis aims at a *classic* replacement for vi ... vim is (as it stands for) an improved version of vi. minor differences yes. personal preferences :P
[23:42] <pike_> fever84: what are you wanting to display? the whole file?
[23:43] <tenex> elvis was part of the minix project and is tiny for simplicity
[23:43] <tenex> not usability
[23:43] <dosnubbie> Hey I'm running auto updates right now and I keep getting a 403 error on all updates pertaining to Samba. Any Ideas?
[23:43] <pwnt-> how can I setup VLC to be the default player for my browser(firefox) as in if i click on a feed or streaming it opens it up with VLC
[23:43] <Triplee23> stroyan: when I run /etc/init.d/procps.sh the value is set correct. Any ideas?
[23:43] <lounge-about> omg dosnubbie so am i
[23:43] <fever84> pike_ yes a text file
[23:43] <heguru> dosnubbie: read the topic
[23:44] <nickrud> !sambabug | dosnubbie
[23:44] <ubotu> dosnubbie: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:44] <dosnubbie> lol
[23:44] <dx9s_home> dosnubbie, they took the files down while the folks are fixing an issue check back in within 24 hours
[23:44] <danny> i need help
[23:44] <pwnt-> danny: me too
[23:44] <dosnubbie> Okay thanks
[23:44] <stroyan> Triplee23: /etc/init.d/procps.sh is linked to /etc/rcS.d/S17procps.sh.  It is supposed to run at boot time.  It invokes sysctl -p to use the sysctl.conf settings.
[23:44] <lounge-about> woot, ok, ill update l8r, im off to get an XL Garbage Burrito from Rosa Maria's!!!
[23:44] <andi5> uh oh
[23:44] <digitalangel> I'm having an issue dual booting x64 and ubuntu.  For some reason when I boo tinto windows and reboot it overwrites grub, any ides on how to fix this?
[23:44] <pike_> fever84: say you had a servername in a log file and you wanted that line because the user asked for that names activity. you could MYVARIABLE=$(grep someservername /var/log/mahlog)   then later on youd echo server activity: $MYVARIABLE  <-- or someth'n
[23:45] <digitalangel> x64 = Windows XP x64
[23:45] <danny> i tryed using compiz on my desktop and its says The Composite extension is not available
[23:45] <lounge-about> nickrud: thx again, l8r
[23:45] <pike_> fever84: thats a really simple example
[23:45] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, sounds like windows being a pig and thinking it owns the entire machine ;) -- I really don't know ...
[23:45] <nickrud> pwnt-: install mozilla-plugin-vlc , and remove totem-mozilla
[23:45] <stroyan> Triplee23: It seems that either the procps.sh script is not run or the setting is being changed again after that runs.
[23:45] <pwnt-> nickrud: thanks! <3
[23:46] <Triplee23> stroyan: is S17procps.sh run at all runlevels. I use RL 2?
[23:46] <sushko> hello, I installed opensuse and now Ubuntu is not in Grub menu how to bring it back
[23:46] <fever84> pike i just put "cat $filename"
[23:46] <fever84> and that worked
[23:46] <pike_> lol ok
[23:46] <pwnt-> nickrud: i'm on add-ons TAB now. there is no plugin "totem-mozilla"
[23:46] <fever84> whats cat stand for ?
[23:46] <danny> i need help when i try to enable desktop effects it says this The Composite extension is not available
[23:46] <andi5> fever84: that is a command (/bin/cat)
[23:46] <andi5> fever84: conCATenate (files)
[23:46] <dx9s_home> conCATenate
[23:46] <nickrud> pwnt-: both of those are packages you install/uninstall in synaptic
[23:46] <dx9s_home> heh
[23:47] <pwnt-> nickrud: awesome
[23:47] <dx9s_home> andi5, :P
[23:47] <andi5> *g*
[23:47] <fever84> ah thats confusing to display a file
[23:47] <andi5> fever84: no, it is pretty handy
[23:47] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: I'm just so confused I have looked all over the place, I would guess there is something ont he windows side that is trying to take over, unfortunatly I don't have the faintest of that that might be.  Mind you I do not have a problem like this on the x86 version
[23:47] <dx9s_home> fever84, also can use "less"  as less is more than "more" ...
[23:47] <andi5> fever84: what do you try to achieve, btw?
[23:47] <stroyan> Triplee23: All of the links in /etc/rcS.d are supposed to be run at boot time.  It doesn't depend on the run level.
[23:48] <pwnt-> nickrud: I just saw that both of them were installed. mozilla-plugin-vlc and mozilla-totem
[23:48] <sushko> hello how to add ubuntu entry to grub menu in opensuse
[23:48] <pwnt-> I removed mozilla-totem
[23:48] <pwnt-> but now how do I tell firefo to use vlc instead
[23:48] <fever84> andi5: working on a small script to display a text file when i run it and then be able to edit it
[23:48] <nickrud> pwnt-: try about:plugins in mozilla, it should see them automatically
[23:48] <andi5> pwnt-: install mozilla-plugin-vlc?
[23:49] <nickrud> pwnt-: erm, firefox that is :)
[23:49] <pwnt-> andi5: I did, but it doesn't run the videos now.
[23:49] <pike_> pwnt-: you remove the totem plugin and install the vlc one
[23:49] <buttercups> danny, are you using the ATI proprietary driver, fglrx?
[23:49] <blueeyesmike> hi, when I updated the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic encounters a segfault and can't finish installing so every time I install something now I get a message about it. Any way to fix this?
[23:49] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, there might be something on getting grub to work with Windows (XP/Vista) x64 -- however I would of thunk both 32 and 64 dual booting (with grub boot manger or perhaps using NT boot manager to boot a linux os) would be the same (reguardless of 32/64)
[23:49] <pike_> pwnt-: or the mplayer one
[23:49] <pwnt-> pike_: I did. but doesn't run the streaming videos for me now
[23:49] <andi5> pwnt-: and you restarted firefox and checked the url "about:plugins"?
[23:49] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: it boots, just seems windows overwrites it
[23:49] <andi5> (that url contains a smilie, eek)
[23:49] <stevenrushing_> fresh instal of 7.10... got java running, all extra codecs and such, but no new apps... trying to get it to run on my nvidia 5500 with 256M, anyone mind walking me through it?  (i installed the nvidia drivers, not legacy and not new, but regular, and can't make it work)
[23:49] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, over writes what?
[23:49]  * nickrud feels an echo around here :)
[23:50] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, the MBR?
[23:50] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: Yup
[23:50] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: which takes out GRUB
[23:50] <pwnt-> andi5: yeah I did.
[23:50] <wolfprint> Question: I have Ubuntu v.7.10 w/gutsy and was wondering where if I have the file .conkyrc and if I dont have such file can you steer me in the right direction for modifing my desktop thanks (newvie)
[23:50] <stevenrushing_> master boot record  =)
[23:50] <digitalangel> sushko: how did you install SuSE?
[23:51] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, do you know if x64 Windows (vista or XP) is classic MBR or that new partition format (that Intel Macs also use, forgot the name)
[23:51] <sushko> digitalangel: from DVD
[23:51] <pwnt-> it all uses MPlayer looks like
[23:51] <andi5> fever84: you want to show a file F and be able to edit it? ... that is less, please go read "man less" and see the key "v" :-)
[23:51] <digitalangel> sushko: From everything I have understood it is the same,
[23:51] <nickrud> pwnt-: ok, remove mozilla-mplayer as well
[23:51] <fever84> thanks andi5 :)
[23:51] <stroyan> Triplee23: You could experiment with changing some other harmless setting in /etc/sysctl.conf and seeing if the new value is used.  That would point to the other value that you care about being overwritten somehow.  But I don't know where you would hunt for that happening.
[23:51] <digitalangel> sushko: did you do a full install like formatting and what not on a seperate drive
[23:51] <mosibfu> well that didnt work, how can i reset the "sessions" and startup scripts?
[23:51] <andi5> pwnt-: i am sorry, i did not follow the discussion, so i will shut up now :-)
[23:51] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: it uses the same thing
[23:51] <dx9s_home> gpt
[23:52] <pike_> wolfprint: open a terminal and type ls -a  you are in your home dir when you first open the terminal and that is where all the 'hidden' config files are. these are your profile config files and each user has em
[23:52] <sushko> digitalangel: no its on the same drive
[23:52] <nickrud> andi5: you chimed in at the right time, actually
[23:52] <digitalangel> sushko: diffrent partition?
[23:52] <Vladimir32tl> can you install compiz-fusion with add/remove programs or synaptic package manager
[23:52] <pike_> wolfprint: of show hidden in file manager
[23:52] <mosibfu> problem: i played with sessions, and can only get into failsafe gnome now.. how do i fix/reset it?
[23:52] <sushko> I used the ubuntu CD to reinstall grub however the opensuse grub menu got reinstalled
[23:52] <pike_> wolfprint: or
[23:52] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, I wish I knew .. I try to avoid dual booting ;)
[23:52] <dx9s_home> well
[23:52] <desertc> !grub
[23:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:52] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, try to have windows on any machine for that manner
[23:53] <dx9s_home> ;)
[23:53] <mosibfu> !sessions
[23:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <sparkydog> im having trouble getting online with my ubuntu
[23:53] <desertc> !network
[23:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:53] <sparkydog> its not wireless, its just a standard plug in ethernet cord
[23:54] <digitalangel> sushko: alright here is what I am going to suggest Sushko, open up a terminal and cd bak to /
[23:54] <ganjist> !Seen ara-fat32
[23:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ara-fat32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:54] <sushko> yes
[23:54] <andi5> sparkydog: does a dhcp server serve your network?
[23:54] <pwnt-> andi5: can I send to you a screenshot?
[23:54] <ganjist> is eierless something god?
[23:54] <kazol2> cafuego: Are you there?
[23:55] <andi5> pwnt-: of course
[23:55] <pwnt-> nickrud: also you, can I send to you a screenshot?
[23:55] <digitalangel> sushko: then enter your boot directory, and you shoudl see the kernels
[23:55] <menko> hi, can someone confirm for me if there is an unofficial way to use the live cd to ugrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[23:55] <sparkydog> i dont know... how do i find out?
[23:55] <cafuego> kazol2: Kinda, in the middle of work.
[23:55] <kazol2> cafuego: It still doesn't work in x32.
[23:55] <mosibfu> problem: gnome doesnt load past the orange screen+sound (after login) no bars nothing is show, mouse works, failsafe gnome works fine.
[23:55] <dxdt> Anyone know of a program that would be an open source version of melodyne uno.  A friend has challenged me to find one.
[23:56] <isforinsects_> I need help setting up backuppc, I can't seem to log in as admin, when I log in I don't have admin control.
[23:56] <digitalangel> sushko: now do you have 7 or 9 files in that directory?
[23:56] <isforinsects_> anyone know the program that can help?
[23:56] <Vladimir32tl> is it possible to install compiz-fusion from add/remove programs?
[23:56] <menko> dxdt: move your ~/.gnome* to a backup location
[23:56] <dxdt> menko: not for me, you mean someone else
[23:56] <jedix> can someone help me with a samsung ml-1210 printer?
[23:56] <nickrud> pwnt-: take your browser to http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html test some codecs
[23:56] <jedix> it refuses to print
[23:56] <jdhore> My gutsy install is freezin at 90% (Detecting Hardware), how can i fix this?
[23:56] <menko> mosibfu: move your ~/.gnome* to a backup location
[23:56] <andi5> pwnt-: does vlc start up the stream if you start it from the command line with the url as parameter?
[23:56] <pwnt-> you see, this is a live stream, after 30mins there will be an online live stream for me there, a Match will be play in this video. but I don't like this kind of video. with this I can only see it this size. or see it as a full screen.
[23:56] <jdhore> *freezing
[23:56] <jedix> jdhore: try disabling acpi during boot
[23:57] <Tailsfan> Do you guys still help with Breezy Users?
[23:57] <jdhore> jedix, how would i go about doing that?
[23:57] <pwnt-> andi5: no vlc doesn't start
[23:57] <mosibfu> menko: ty, will do
[23:57] <blueeyesmike> problem: when I updated the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic encounters a segfault and can't finish installing so every time I install something now I get a message about it. Any way to fix this?
[23:57] <Tailsfan> Because Breezy is teh only system I can use on my Compaq Deskpro
[23:57] <sushko> digitalangel: yes there are a couple
[23:57] <jedix> jdhore: during boot specify acpi=off
[23:57] <andi5> pwnt-: vlc does not start at all? ;-) .. it should really print _something_
[23:57] <nickrud> pwnt-: video in browsers is problematic sometimes... and maybe andi5 knows more about it than I
[23:58] <digitalangel> sushko: I need to know how many files, as to give you some privacy to how many kernels you have on yoru system is the number 7
[23:58] <pike_> pwnt-: can you run firefox from a terminal and watch messages there ?
[23:58] <jdhore> jedix, thanks, thought it was something like that
[23:58] <raranp> tailsfan, you really running breezy?
[23:58] <roks> where are acc
[23:58] <andi5> pwnt-: or check ~/.xsession-errors
[23:58] <roks> :P
[23:58] <roks> loolz
[23:58] <roks> :)
[23:58] <pwnt-> nickrud: your website I clicked it. and when i clicked "Quicktime" Old codec. it shows the same as my screenshot, the (No video) in the middle like that
[23:58] <kazol2> Can someone help me with bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[23:58] <Tailsfan> Yeah rar
[23:58] <jedix> jdhore: not sure it it will help, but it si something to try
[23:58] <Tailsfan> It's the ONLY Ubuntu that runs good on my Deskpro
[23:58] <kelvie> How does ubuntu make sudo/pam return immediately on a SIGINT?
[23:59] <sushko> digitalangel: I cannot identify the kernels from the other things...
[23:59] <kelvie> a custom patch? or a setting somewhere?
[23:59] <zeno> hey, trying to install ubuntu over an older install of fedora core 3; have 3 hard drives... one ATA, two SATA. My BIOS is set to boot from the first SATA drive (the newer kernels call it sdb), but I *think* the Ubuntu installer is changing the boot record of the PATA drive (now called sda, used to be hdg)
[23:59] <jedix> can someone help me with a samsung ml-1210 printer?  I've added it in kde but it doesn't print :(
[23:59] <digitalangel> sushko: hence why I asked you for the number of files
[23:59] <kelvie> or is that question too advanced for this channel? :/
[23:59] <zeno> when I boot I just get a grub prompt and it can't find my /boot/menu.lst
[23:59] <pwnt-> andi5: I'll be back in 15mins, will you be here?
[23:59] <zeno> er, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:59] <andi5> pwnt-: yep
[23:59] <pwnt-> ok brb
[23:59] <sushko> 30
[23:59] <kazol2> Can someone help me with bcm43xx-fwcutter? My system freezes after configuring it.
[23:59] <pike_> zeno: well, what did you do to it?


[00:09] <admcleod> kwmonroe: i just added an outbound static route
[11:55] <elmaciej> zeestrat: it is only for [General] section - this item should go to [libvirt] section so I tried even injecting this but does not work
[11:58] <magicaltrout> i have some units stuck with the agent lost and workload unknown
[11:58] <magicaltrout> is is possible to remove them without destroying the application
[11:58] <magicaltrout> ?
[11:58] <magicaltrout> goooooo kjackal
[12:19] <magicaltrout> oh remove-machine --force did it
[12:19] <magicaltrout> cancel that
[13:28] <kjackal> hi magicaltrout, destroy the machine holding the broken agents?
[17:04] <ybaumy> question. what happens if my controller is unavailable or dead and gone forever. and i dont have a second one. will there be a chance to manage the models still?
[17:04] <ybaumy> is it possible to create a new one and say that this controller should manage model xxx
[17:05] <ybaumy> those are questions i took from our architecture meeting
[17:05] <ybaumy> since controllers are not HA when is it planned to implement this
[17:38] <pmatulis> ybaumy, the model is lost if its controller is gone
[17:42] <gbc> can anyone out there help with a juju charm deployment issue?
[17:43] <gbc> ceph charm deployment issue
[17:49] <ybaumy> pmatulis: hmm what is the recommandation of how many controller units i should have
[17:51] <ybaumy> does it even make sense to distribute controllers accross zones or is this only good for datacenters in vsphere
[17:54] <ybaumy> also what i noticed is that when deploying machines are setup in sequential order
[17:54] <ybaumy> not parallel
[17:54] <ybaumy> why is that
[17:54] <ybaumy> when i do juju status i see only one doing something
[17:55] <pmatulis> i'm sorry but i'm not fluent in juju ha but i gather the more ha units, and distributed, the better, in a sense.
[17:55] <pmatulis> not sure what you mean by 'only one doing something'
[17:56] <ybaumy> pmatulis: i see only one VM donwloading a image
[20:11] <akern07> How do I successfully deploy my first juju charm?
[21:41] <pmatulis> akern07, with the 'juju deploy' command. `juju deploy mysql`
[22:00] <rick_h> akern07: is this a charm you wrote or just any charm?
[22:04] <rick_h> akern07: the best thing to do is walk through the first tutorial: https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/getting-started
[22:13] <elmaciej> Hello
[22:14] <rick_h> howdy elmaciej
[22:15] <elmaciej> Does anyone knows how to add cinder volumes with different volume-type thru juju ? so I have profile ssd and hdd but want to do it thru juju
[22:21] <elmaciej> also simpler question - how to block juju from rolling back my changes in config file for example nova.conf
[22:22] <rick_h> elmaciej: so Juju has a config for the charm that as it's updated it writes out the file. If you want to override it you'll have to see if the charm allows special injection as well or if there's a second file you can edit/leave that is slurped into the generation of the final nova.conf
[22:25] <elmaciej> so I have to modify the charm if it's not provided? I'm talking about situation I posted before - deploying nova-compute, change instance disk type to lvm. this charm do not provide the images_volume_group property. you can inject only to GENERAL section thru charm
[22:25] <elmaciej> and when I add this manually juju reverts the nova.conf after some time
[22:25] <elmaciej> so have to either modify the charm or after deployment shutdown juju
[22:26] <rick_h> elmaciej: right, because juju is syncing things when the charm config is changed and it's written to rewrite the file. The best bet would be to chat with the #openstack-charmers and see what provisions they've got in the charms to help with what specific changes you want to make around it
[22:26] <rick_h> elmaciej: Juju can't know the current state and make things repeatable (e.g. dump out the same config that should work again on a second install) if it's done manually around Juju's control.
[22:27] <elmaciej> ok, thanks for confirming this - I was not sure . it would be good if you can for example set kind of unmanage flag for specific charm in the model
[22:27] <elmaciej> :) but it's just a wish to wishlist
[22:29] <rick_h> elmaciej: yea, I don't have insights into the charm and the various control knobs it exposes but I know we use these charms for real prod customer openstack deploys so I'm assuming there's some method to the madness there just might take an ask to the mailing list or irc for the openstack folks to find it.
[22:31] <elmaciej> well it's so many variations and in my case is rare situation. Mostly people use ceph for storage and here I have just lvm on SAN. so it's hard to predict everything. but as I used mirantis before in production +100nodes clusters and also redhat I can say that juju is far way better and user firendly then all others distros.
[22:31] <elmaciej> and debugging is so much easier
[22:32] <elmaciej> so I love it really
[22:37] <rick_h> elmaciej: nice to hear, sorry I don't have a firm answer for you there on the last bit you're hitting.