[07:24] <xonecas> armornick, i have installed msttcorefonts
[07:24] <armornick> xonecas: then it should work
[07:24] <Phoenix325> I'll keep the "windows manager controlling from terminal thingy" in mind.
[07:25] <indus> so whats coming for 10.04
[07:25] <indus> just a cool splash?
[07:25] <xonecas> armornick, right, but it doesn't
[07:25] <xonecas> armornick, got any ideas for me ?
[07:25] <MisterK85> armornick: I installed it, it worked fine. I had to reboot and now it's not working again.
[07:25] <armornick> xonecas: which site, for example?
[07:25] <jiga123123> indus you saying that 8.04 won't support some of the hardware in my laptop?
[07:25] <xonecas> like mafia wars app in facebook
[07:25] <maco> jiga123123: potentially. if its new hardware thts only supported in newer kernels
[07:25] <visitor1> Billiard, it isnt offer, i downloaded inkscape_0.47-0ubuntu1_i386.deb but i get an error : libglibmm-2.4-1c2a (>= 2.22.0)
[07:26] <armornick> MisterK85: strange, I'm using the same chip and it's working perfectly now :s
[07:26] <maco> jiga123123: however there are *some* hardware support backports to LTS releases
[07:26] <losha> indus: almost all software systems that get bugfixes become more stable over time. The primary cause of instability in software is new features. Honesty forces me to admit that occasionally bugfixes themselves can also destabilise a release...
[07:26] <MisterK85> It won't detect the card anymore.
[07:26] <xonecas> the fonts are displayed bigger, hence breaking the layout
[07:26] <maco> indus: on ubuntu desktop, i dont know. im a kubuntu person.
[07:26] <sumodumo> how do use emerald?
[07:27] <Phoenix325> Bye bye everyone.
[07:27] <Phoenix325> Thanks for the support, peace out.
[07:27] <maco> sumodumo: please dont
[07:27] <losha> jiga123123: it's possible some of your hardware won't be supported. That's what the live cd is for, so you can test that without installing.
[07:27] <maco> sumodumo: its crashy and unmaintained, so the bugs wont be fixed
[07:27] <sumodumo> maco: please dont?
[07:27] <maco> sumodumo: upstream killed it off a long while ago
[07:27] <draco1234> sumodumo, yeah it's called compiz now
[07:27] <maco> draco1234: um no
[07:27] <sumodumo> LOL i know
[07:27] <soreau> draco1234: emerald is a window decorator for compiz
[07:28] <maco> sumodumo, draco1234: emerald is a window decorator for beryl or compiz fusion. emerald is not maintained anymore.
[07:28] <draco1234> yeah, exactly
[07:28] <maco> sumodumo, draco1234: gtk-window-decorator is more stable and can work with normal metacity themes
[07:28] <sumodumo> bleh but when i change my setting for compiz it doesnt do anything
[07:28] <armornick> xonecas: well it seems fine, but I don't know how it looks under windows
[07:28] <maco> sumodumo: change your setting for compiz?
[07:28] <Billiard> visitor1: inkscape is in the repos, you might have to add multiverse or universe
[07:28] <soreau> sumodumo: What setting are you changing and where?
[07:29] <sumodumo> maco: yea like you open up compiz and u change crap
[07:29] <maco> visitor1, Billiard: inkscape is in main
[07:29] <sumodumo> maco: like the effects
[07:29] <maco> sumodumo: uh huh...
[07:29] <Parsi> indus: can i change user permissions in terminal?
[07:29] <maco> sumodumo: which effect isnt working?
[07:29] <draco1234> sumodumo, enable desktop effects first
[07:30] <soreau> sumodumo: You need to enable compiz in sys>prefs>appearance>Visual Effects and set it to something other than None
[07:30] <visitor1> maco, Billiard , but not the latest 0.47 release?
[07:30] <sumodumo> draco1234: yea i cant the enabling part...sorry im noob
[07:30] <maco> visitor1: 0.47 pre4 is in 9.10
[07:30] <losha> Parsi: if you mean what I think you mean, then yes, using the chmod command. Try: man chmod
[07:30] <visitor1> maco but cant i use the final 0.47 version?
[07:31] <maco> visitor1: there may be a PPA somewhere...
[07:31] <maco> !ppa | visitor1
[07:31] <jiga123123> what is "backport" (ESL speaker)
[07:31] <draco1234> !backport
[07:31] <sumodumo> it says desktop effects cannot be enabled
[07:31] <visitor1> maco ubottu  i downloaded inkscape_0.47-0ubuntu1_i386.deb but i get an error : libglibmm-2.4-1c2a (>= 2.22.0)
[07:31] <soreau> sumodumo: Which graphics card do you have?
[07:31] <armornick> jiga123123: a feature from a later version that's implanted into an earlier version
[07:32] <maco> visitor1: from where?
[07:32] <draco1234> sumodumo, maybe your video card can't handle it? What video card do you use?
[07:32] <sumodumo> idk. how do i tell. this is a pretty old comptuer
[07:32] <visitor1> maco Quelle: http://ppa.launchpad.net/popey/inkscape/ubuntu/pool/main/i/inkscape/inkscape_0.47-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:32] <soreau> sumodumo: lspci|grep VGA
[07:33] <sumodumo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)
[07:33] <maco> visitor1: add the ppa instead of downloading the deb on its own, that way apt can install the dependencies for you
[07:33] <jiga123123> losha, good reminder, appreciate it. you know the date to which 8.04 is supported?
[07:33] <losha> !lts
[07:33] <soreau> sumodumo: If you get compiz working with that card, it will be tricky. I am not sure if it has the required features that compiz needs to run
[07:34] <soreau> sumodumo: VIA has drivers for the CN896 and P4M900 chipsets which, according to the release notes, support AIGLX and compiz.  You can download the drivers here: http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action
[07:35] <draco1234> maco, orgy
[07:35] <maco> !language | draco1234
[07:35] <Kentoro> hey can anyone help me out
[07:35] <draco1234> !bot abuse | maco
[07:36] <soreau> Kentoro: Not if you dont ask your question
[07:36] <sumodumo> soreau:   i have 9.1 and they only have 9.04 listed. should i just use that driver?
[07:36] <Kentoro> im trying to watch a movie
[07:36] <soreau> sumodumo: Yes
[07:36] <Kentoro> i got vlc from software center
[07:36] <losha> jiga123123: per the above, 8.04 desktop will be supported until april 2011. Before then, there will be a new lts. If stability is your primary concern (it *is* mine) you can run only LTS releases...
[07:36] <Kentoro> still doesnt work, i dont understand mounting and everything
[07:36] <soreau> sumodumo: Actually, check sys>admin>hardware drivers first
[07:37] <sumodumo> soreau: gots nothing
[07:37] <Kentoro> says no proprietary drivers are in use
[07:37] <losha> jiga123123: as indus points out, even with lts releases, it pays to wait a few months before running them, as the longer you wait, the more stable they become...
[07:37] <visitor1> maco i just have to add the ppa website to synaptic packet management?
[07:38] <maco> visitor1: yeah it gives you the line to add i a little box on there
[07:38] <armornick> jiga123123: only insall an lts release after the previous one ends, is my guess
[07:38] <armornick> but I don't know what I'm talking about :p
[07:38] <Kentoro> anything else i could try or do
[07:38] <needsomeinfo>  my ubuntu 9.10 cracked ,and will only load grub...how do i fix it?:)
[07:38] <WeazelON> help guys, I've installed Bootup-Manager, and it seemed to messed up my ubuntu a bit :( , anyone knows about those things around here ?
[07:39] <Kentoro> anyone help me to watch a video
[07:39] <WeazelON> :(
[07:39] <Kentoro> sorry to be impatient, but im not used to getting my ass kicked by computer
[07:39] <sumodumo> how do i install the graphics card driver?
[07:39] <WeazelON> .
[07:39] <armornick> Kentoro: what problem are you having
[07:39] <armornick> WeazelON: did you disable something?
[07:39] <Kentoro> i put in disk to watch
[07:39] <Kentoro> cant play it
[07:39] <soreau> sumodumo: Does glxinfo|grep texture_from_pixmap  show anything?
[07:40] <losha> !multimedia
[07:40] <armornick> !medibuntu
[07:40] <linuxguy2009> Ok guys I removed pulseaudio from my 9.10 system and the volume control applet from the panel goes away permanently. I installed 'gnome-alsamixer' and I can put a launcher on the panel but Im wondering if there is a better alsa mixer GUI available?
[07:40] <Kentoro> not with video player, also downloaded vlc didnt help
[07:40] <Parsi> losha: I want to grant access to a specified user via terminal
[07:40] <jiga123123> losha, (it *is* mine) why is in start?
[07:40] <ShawnRisk> how do I know if my wireless settings are correct?  Everytime I try to enter the WEP Password, it doesn't connect.
[07:40] <sumodumo> soreau: the wat wat? sorry i just installed ubuntu 3 days ago
[07:40] <armornick> Kentoro: you need the libcss package from medibuntu
[07:40] <jiga123123> losha, (it *is* mine) why "is" in stars (*) in your reply?
[07:40] <Portunus> I am sorry if this is a stupid question but I can't seem to get into ##php, is there a problem?
[07:41] <WeazelON> armornick, well it first i didn't do anything.. after i've lost my timeout counter in the grub, i started enabling everything, now my ubuntu won't shutdown unless i press the power button manually, and cdrom is not unmounting properly, and virtualbox service is not even loaded
[07:41] <zcat[1]> armornick:  you mean libdvdcss2 ?
[07:41] <losha> jiga123123: for emphasis...
[07:41] <soreau> sumodumo: Same way you used lspci|grep VGA, instead do glxinfo|grep texture_from_pixmap
[07:41] <armornick> zcat[1]: yes
[07:41] <losha> jiga123123: for emphasis... Many people here think new features are more important than stability...
[07:41] <jiga123123> losha, oh, thanks. do you run fast or old pc?
[07:42] <armornick> WeazelON: are you sure you didn't disable the power management and stuff?
[07:42] <gnuyen> my trackpad on my macbook stops working on occasion, and I don't have a numpad to use mousekeys, is there any way to use the regular arrow keys for mouse keys?
[07:42] <nbros652> anyone know whether or not VNC screen sharing works via xmpp in Empathy for 8.10?
[07:43] <WeazelON> armornick, right now every service available in the Bum is checked
[07:43] <sumodumo> soreau: oh haha....    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap,
[07:43] <sumodumo>     GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[07:43] <MisterK85> armornick: I have no idea whats causing it now... it's just not detecting either network card.
[07:43] <losha> jiga123123: I run both. A Q6600 at home,. an old pentium 2.4Ghz away, and a 1.6 celeron on my laptop. All 8.04...
[07:43] <zugiart> Hey all just wanna say, that you are all awesome. Especially those of you who are helping others in the ways of ubuntu, kudos to you all
[07:43] <soreau> sumodumo: Ok, can you try glxinfo|grep renderer
[07:44] <sumodumo> soreau: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI UniChrome (KM400) 20060710 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
[07:44] <ardchoille> gnuyen: yes, system > preferences > keyboard and see the mouse keys tab
[07:44] <armornick> MisterK85: that's too advanced for me to solve, sorry
[07:44] <MisterK85> lol, it went to one, to two, to none.
[07:44] <soreau> sumodumo: You might be in good fortune.. pastebin the output of SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz &
[07:45] <armornick> WeazelON: well, I haven't used bum in a long time, so I don't know how to help you with that, sorry
[07:45] <gnuyen> ardchoille, I don't see any options to change it from numeric keypad to regular keys, my keyboard odesn't have a numeric keypad
[07:45] <WeazelON> darn
[07:45] <indus> jiga123123: for example, there is a realease of 8.04.2 which is more stable and updated than the original
[07:45] <sumodumo> soreau: is that a command?
[07:45] <bigmack83_> are there any tools in ubuntu to recover lost data from deleted partitions?
[07:45] <soreau> sumodumo: Yes
[07:45] <Flannel> Portunus: You may need to be identified/registered with freenode
[07:45] <ardchoille> gnuyen: Ah, ok, sorry about that
[07:45] <Flannel> !register > Portunus
[07:45] <indus> jiga123123: the .2 stands for point release, which was released after about 6 months i believe
[07:45] <sumodumo> soreau: cuz i got
[07:45] <Portunus> Flannel: thank you
[07:45] <soreau> ! pastebin | sumodumo
[07:46] <dragonmere> what up, all?
[07:46] <Kentoro> downloaded the libdvd files now when I click open movie player it just makes my dvd player run and then dissapears
[07:46] <losha> bigmack83_: there is testdisk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk
[07:47] <jiga123123> indus where can i get that .2??? and another q: why is .2not called 8.10?
[07:47] <Kentoro> says could not read from resource
[07:47] <Kentoro> anything else I should do
[07:47] <armornick> Kentoro: did you install the package?
[07:47] <indus> jiga123123: because the packages havent changed , it uses the 8.04 kernel and other package versions etc
[07:47] <maco> jiga123123: theyre just snapshots of all updates up to a certain point
[07:47] <Kentoro> the libdvd packages, not the libcss packages
[07:47] <sumodumo> soreau: i did it and i got logged out
[07:47] <maco> jiga123123: think like a service pack
[07:48] <bigmack83_> losha, thanks
[07:48] <indus> jiga123123: the 8.04 you download today is automatically 8.04.2
[07:48] <visitor1> maco i am stupid i cant find the right line to add to synaptic?
[07:48] <armornick> Kentoro: a commercial dvd uses css as protection
[07:48] <soreau> sumodumo: Well I guess the drivers you have installed currently or your card cant handle compiz
[07:48] <Kentoro> there are four different libcss files
[07:48] <indus> jiga123123: in fact now its .3
[07:48] <sumodumo> soreau: damn. i guess i go buy a new card. thanks anyways!
[07:48] <Kentoro> perl, minifier, tiny and squish
[07:49] <soreau> sumodumo: I recommend ATI
[07:49] <sumodumo> soreau: kk
[07:49] <jiga123123> indus, where i go to download it?
[07:49] <maco> visitor1: see where it says "You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:popey/inkscape  to your system's Software Sources." ?
[07:49] <seidos> sumodumo: i would do research before buying a card
[07:49] <indus> jiga123123: which version are you using now?
[07:49] <jiga123123> ubuntu.com gives 9.109
[07:49] <indus> jiga123123: check under www.ubuntu.com/downloads
[07:49] <dragonmere> Quickie question... Does 'fdisk -l' list removable (USB) media, or just local drives?
[07:50] <indus> dragonmere: all
[07:50] <jiga123123> right now i am using 9.10 xfce version. and i will format the hdd soon to make everything fresh and install some x64 windows for the first time...
[07:50] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[07:50] <sumodumo> seidos: thanks for the input.
[07:50] <sumodumo> nite ppl
[07:50] <dragonmere> thank you! trying to run fsck.dos on my ipod, wasn't 100% on where it was living in /dev/
[07:50] <Kentoro> is it really this hard to watch a movie?
[07:50] <indus> ShawnRisk: what is the problem
[07:51] <armornick> Kentoro: if you want, install linux mint; it can play dvd's by default
[07:51] <soreau> Kentoro: What type of media are you trying to play?
[07:51] <dragonmere> thanks again
[07:51] <ShawnRisk> indus: the problem is that I am trying to connect to my wireless router, and everytime I enter the password, the box just reappears again without any errors.
[07:51] <armornick> Kentoro: oh wait, did you run the commandline script after installing libdvdcss?
[07:51] <jiga123123> indus, i am downloading it, thanks
[07:51] <Kentoro> ? lmao armor, no clue
[07:51] <ShawnRisk> indus: I am not able to connect
[07:52] <nbros652> Sorry, trying to find out if screen sharing is supported in Empathy for 8.04 NOT 8.10
[07:52] <indus> jiga123123: you found 8.04?
[07:52] <gnuyen> in firefox is there a keyboard command that brings up the context menu?
[07:52] <indus> jiga123123: its under alternate installers which opens up more options
[07:52] <Kentoro> i went to synaptic manager and there is no file called libdvdcss
[07:52] <indus> ShawnRisk: enter password where?
[07:53] <Kentoro> there was libdvd and libcss i donwloaded all of the options available
[07:53] <jiga123123> indus, yes, .3 is there!))and already on my hard drive. does the software like compiz(i wanna try it) and other software care about which version of linux i use?
[07:53] <jiga123123> or does it not matter really?
[07:53] <armornick> Kentoro: you should add medibuntu
[07:53] <indus> jiga123123: already downloaded?
[07:54] <ShawnRisk> indus:  I just hit the icon on the top right and click on the right wireless network and than enter the password when the box comes up.
[07:54] <armornick> Kentoro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing%20Encrypted%20DVDs
[07:54] <jiga123123> indus, yes.)) it was quite fast i'd say)
[07:54] <indus> jiga123123: what speed is ur conection?
[07:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: you mean in network applet
[07:55] <Kentoro> how do i get medibuntu
[07:55] <losha> jiga123123: be sure to check the md5sum of the iso...
[07:55] <vik> hello, I'm trying to find drivers for Logitech quickcam, I was trying to compile them myself, but no luck. Here is the output of "make all": http://pastebin.com/m6a72c822 I would appreaciate if you could tell me what the problem is, because I do not understand nothing in there. Thanks indeed
[07:55] <losha> !md5sum
[07:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: check output of iwconfig
[07:55] <jiga123123> indus it depends on what i am downloading and where from. different test give me different speed, so i am not sure.
[07:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: paste it
[07:55] <tapio> How can I figure out which package a specified file belongs to?
[07:55] <jiga123123> losha how to check that?
[07:55] <losha> !md5sum | jiga123123
[07:56] <losha> !medibuntu | Kentoro
[07:56] <Kentoro> !medibuntu
[07:56] <ShawnRisk> indus: okay, there is a wlan0 and everything looks normal.
[07:56] <mpontillo>  tapio: dpkg -S <path-to-file>
[07:56] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm what wireless router
[07:57] <indus> !wireless | ShawnRisk have you read this one?
[07:57] <tapio> mpontillo: Thanks ;)
[07:57] <Toad> boy, that was fun
[07:57] <Toad> first reboot in karmic and I got a kernel panic
[07:57] <visitor1> maco i am stupid its doesnt take deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/i386?
[07:57] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes and it isn't the router as I am connected to it now
[07:57] <Toad> one of these days I will have a flawless linux install/upgrade :)
[07:58] <indus> ShawnRisk: no internet you mean
[07:58] <maco> visitor1: jaunty? this ppa is for karmic
[07:58] <armornick> Kentoro: follow the link I sent you
[07:58] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes
[07:58] <losha> Toad: not if you insist on using the latest releases you won't....
[07:58] <indus> ShawnRisk:how you on irc
[07:58] <Kentoro> says unable to lock the administration directory
[07:58] <visitor1> maco i have xubuntu 9.04
[07:59] <ShawnRisk> indus: connect to wireless router
[07:59] <Kentoro> is another process using it
[07:59] <Toad> losha: nah, this has happened to me pretty much every upgrade/install I've done in the last ten years, regardless of version
[07:59] <Toad> (on desktop hardware. server hardware's usually OK)
[07:59] <maco> visitor1: you need 9.10
[07:59] <jiga123123> losha where do i find the md5sum for that cd image? what do i check against?
[07:59] <indus> ShawnRisk: what is the make of your router
[07:59] <Toad> granted I'm usually running on something reasonably oddball. no idea what the issue was this time thoguh
[07:59] <Kentoro> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[08:00] <soreau> Kentoro: What are you trying to do?
[08:00] <Toad> but managed to boot from grub manually specifying stripped down cmdline... will figure out the issue tomorrow I guess
[08:00] <visitor1> maco i see but i dont want to update now, thanks for your help :)
[08:00] <Kentoro> install medibuntu so I can watch a dvd
[08:00] <indus> ShawnRisk: got to go now , lunch
[08:00] <soreau> ! dvd | Kentoro
[08:00] <Kentoro> followed link, put into terminal
[08:01] <ShawnRisk> indus: 2Wire Gateway
[08:01] <arghh2d2> !ping
[08:01] <losha> jiga123123: usually the same place as you got the iso in a file called MD5SUMS e.g. http://ubuntu-releases.eecs.wsu.edu/8.04.3/MD5SUMS
[08:02] <crohakon> How do I create a new "place" in the "places" menu for a NFS? I don't want it to auto mount at boot, I just want the ability to click the icon in the "places" menu much like I do with my Vista HD
[08:03] <arghh2d2> thats a #gnome question
[08:03] <arghh2d2> imo
[08:03] <gorgonzola> yes. in kde is left click and "Add entry"
[08:03] <crohakon> oh
[08:04] <switchgirl> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113904869998 ubuntu womens facebook group if interested
[08:04] <arghh2d2> i bet more men then women click on tht url
[08:04] <jiga123123> thanks guys, "check sums are same" why did i need that check?
[08:04] <DuckGod> my internet connection icon on my top panel dissapeared......how can i get it back?
[08:05] <Draconis> what do you guys recommend? last.fm or pandora? :)
[08:05] <Visitor15> Draconis: last.fm
[08:05]  * maco clicks just to screw up arghh2d2's bet
[08:05] <losha> jiga123123: because your download seemed very quick, I was worried you didn't get the entire file. But the md5sum confirms it's good...
[08:06] <Draconis> thanks :) currently using last.fm ... I just hear so much talk about pandora these days
[08:06] <arghh2d2> pandora > last.fm because of the music genome project
[08:06] <Draconis> arghh2d2, eh?
[08:07] <switchgirl> arghh2d2, its open to all
[08:07] <jiga123123> losha, i used Reget this particular time, pretty nice software, it speed up, and i think it minimizes errors... does something like that for linux?
[08:07] <Visitor15> I've been using Last.fm since 2006.. Tried Pandora, but didn't like it nearly as much.
[08:07] <Kentoro> alright vlc can now play it, but its choppy and broken, still cant play with default player
[08:08] <arghh2d2> i've been using pandora for a long time...tried last.fm once and was like pffft whatever, right back to pandora
[08:08] <Draconis> heh crap, sounds like a preference thing
[08:08] <losha> jiga123123: someone said Gwget was good. I've never tried it myself...
[08:08] <hyperstream> how can i get bigger than 1024 resolution on my Hitachi CM811 Plus, i belive its not detecting my monitor
[08:09] <arghh2d2> yeah except last.fm is the imitator and pandora is the imitated
[08:09] <Draconis> really? I thought last.fm was first
[08:09] <Toad> yea audioscrobbler is really old
[08:09] <judgen> is there a gui app to create gnome icon-themes?
[08:09] <Toad> think it predates pandora
[08:09] <Toad> also, last.fm uses debian :)
[08:09] <arghh2d2> but last.fm doesnt use the music genome project it just recommends crap that other people like
[08:10] <Toad> "music genome project" is just marketing BS for lack of good technology on pandora's side
[08:10] <jiga123123> losha is it fine that i burn cd images on dvd-disk all the time and use them to install linux?
[08:10] <ardchoille> !ot
[08:10] <arghh2d2> lmao at Toad
[08:10] <losha> jiga123123: it should be fine...
[08:10] <jiga123123> losha, should?
[08:11] <hyperstream> is there a way i can tell x what monitor im using?
[08:11] <hyperstream> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt work ;/
[08:11] <arghh2d2> Toad: mgp is way more than that
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | lein See the error 15 section if you upgraded from grub legacy
[08:11] <hyperstream> !monitor
[08:11] <Toad> arghh2d2: we're OT like ardchoille said, but... where are all the ISMIR papers from the pandora folks?
[08:11] <mpontillo> DuckGod: the "internet conenction" icon is the network manager applet. it appears in the notification area (the same one that contains the volume icon). is the volume icon still there?
[08:11] <DuckGod> no
[08:12] <ShawnRisk> :(
[08:12] <DuckGod> it has done this a few times....why?
[08:12] <losha> jiga123123: Usually a CD image is burned to a CD, not a DVD. I think it will still work though. As long as it boots, you'll be fine...
[08:12] <mpontillo> DuckGod: in that case, right click the panel, click "add to panel", select "notification area" and click "add" to see if it comes back.
[08:12] <ardchoille> losha: I've burned the ubuntu livecd to a blank dvd before and it worked fine
[08:13] <arghh2d2> Toad: what? what is ISMIR?
[08:13] <jiga123123> guys, sorry for the offtopic questions, but the company sponsoring ubuntu, how does it benefit? just wondering what's really behind ubuntu
[08:13] <ardchoille> arghh2d2 , Toad Please take this to another channel
[08:13] <losha> ardchoille: jiga123123: I thought I had too, but it was a long time ago...
[08:13] <maco> jiga123123: selling technical support contracts and services to OEMs like Dell who want to make sure their hardware works with Ubuntu
[08:13] <Toad> arghh2d2: ismir.net - the main journal/conference for music information retrieval research
[08:13] <maco> jiga123123: er, tech support contracts are to users and/or companies who want to do large deployments
[08:14] <Toad> anyway, gotta run, but do some reading - pandora is low on tech, high on labor
[08:14] <Toad> not saying I don't like their service, I actually use it plenty :)

[08:15] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[08:15] <Kentoro> ive done everything those links said to do, i still cant watch dvd
[08:15] <jiga123123> maco, is that really one and the main thing? i'd think they have some other occupations as well.  how did it start, canonical?
[08:15] <EvaLuaTe> after upgrading to karmic, in the main menu, I don't get any icons for the 'places', 'system', 'lock screen' and 'shutdown' entries. Any idea what the problem could be?
[08:16] <hyperstream> is there a GUI i can install to change my monitor screen and its resolutions?
[08:16] <avishek> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 server. Could anyone advise please on how to change the timeout for the monitor going to sleep?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> hyperstream: System > Preferences > Displays
[08:16] <maco> jiga123123: can we take this to PM as it's offtopic?
[08:16] <Kentoro> any other ideas?
[08:16] <jiga123123> avishek, would power options not work?
[08:16] <losha> jiga123123: http://www.canonical.com/
[08:17] <hyperstream> Jordan_U, its an nvidia panel, i cannot choose my monitor model , and resoultion is set to 1024
[08:17] <avishek> jiga123123: I tried setterm options, but it doesn't seem to work.
[08:17] <Jordan_U> jiga123123: Mark Shuttleworth had some money left over after paying to be a spaxe tourist and likes open source :)
[08:17] <Jordan_U> jiga123123: s/spaxe/space/
[08:18] <rww> EvaLuaTe: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Interface -> Show icons in menus
[08:18] <Jordan_U> hyperstream: Sounds like a driver problem. Have you installed the proprietary nvidia drivers with System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[08:19] <hyperstream> yes
[08:19] <piquadrat_> Hi! I have a problem with VirtualBox and sound. I read somewhere that forcing VirtualBox to use PulseAudio instead of ALSA helps. But how can I force VB to use PulseAudio?
[08:19] <EvaLuaTe> rww: wow, awesome. Thank you very much.
[08:19] <rww> EvaLuaTe: You're welcome :)
[08:19] <diddy> Is there a way to set up /tmp so that its content is not deleted on each reboot?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> diddy: Why?
[08:19] <hyperstream> Jordan_U,  its cool mate, i wont bother , this is the missu's pc my pc is at work has a GX260 and this machine only has 6600, Hence why its fine at my work place :P
[08:20] <diddy> Jordan_U, because I want to decide when to delete stuff there.
[08:21] <Kentoro> ill ask more people tommorow about my question, thanks for trying to help
[08:21] <bigmack83_> i have an ntfs partition that was deleted, but has not been formatted over. is there a way i can just re-enable the ntfs partition without formatting the unallocated space on my drive?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> diddy: Most of the files are deleted by the programs that created them when they stop, are there particular files you'd like to save?
[08:22] <tiaray> Hi all!!!
[08:22] <Jordan_U> bigmack83_: How did you "delete" it?
[08:22] <TPS> I just tried to install Ubuntu
[08:23] <TPS> And aborted installation
[08:23] <TPS> AFTER partition
[08:23] <xgpt> hello
[08:23] <xgpt> is anyone still awake?
[08:23] <losha> diddy: check out /etc/init.d/bootclean
[08:23] <TPS> I specified installing side-by-side
[08:23] <TPS> Now I'm reinstalling
[08:23] <diddy> Jordan_U, no. I installed Ubuntu 9.10 fresh and made the /tmp partition 15GB. I thought I could file sharing, tmp downloads there, bittorrent seeds, etc. Now I realized that everything there gets deleted on each reboot.
[08:23] <TPS> And the old side-by-side partition is there
[08:23] <rww> bigmack83_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery might be helpful
[08:23] <TPS> What do I select at the partition screen this time ?
[08:23] <TPS> Please help..
[08:23] <bigmack83_> i was extending the partition to the left (in gparted) and shortly after trying to copy the data (automated by gparted) my computer lost power. so now the space to the left of the original partition is a valid partition and where the original partition was, is unallocated space
[08:23] <tiaray> I'm having < can anyone please tell what is "initramfs"
[08:24] <bigmack83_> rww, tyvm
[08:24] <mattcen> diddy: There's no reason you can't create another tmp directory e.g. /share, with the same permissions as /tmp and use that instead for what you want.
[08:24] <diddy> losha, there is no such file
[08:24] <Jordan_U> diddy: You can simply mount that partition to /media/files and then /tmp will be on / and you can use the partition how you like
[08:24] <tiaray> can anyone please tell what is "initramfs" when ubuntu9.10 boots up
[08:24] <Billiard> bigmack83_: you can recreate the partition without formatting in the same place to recover it, im sure there are programs to search for the position of a lost partition if you dont know the exact location
[08:25] <diddy> mattcen, yes but now it is too late. I made /tmp 15GB and I don't want to waste 15GB
[08:25] <Jordan_U> diddy: You can simply mount that partition to /media/files and then /tmp will be on / and you can use the partition how you like no need to waste the space
[08:25] <bigmack83_> Billiard, well im scanning the drive with testdisk, but its a rather large drive (1TB) so its going to take ages.
[08:25] <TPS> ..Anyone read my messages ?
[08:25] <diddy> Jordan_U, really?
[08:26] <mattcen> diddy: So boot into single user mode (or off a LiveCD), unmount that partition as /tmp, and remount it as /share. Then create /tmp on the root filesystem.
[08:26] <Jordan_U> diddy: Yes, just edit your /etc/fstab ( If you need help with specifics feel free to ask )
[08:26] <diddy> ok, thx
[08:26] <losha> diddy: well, there is on 8.04. Go to /etc/init.d and grep for tmp. Also, I think directories in /tmp don't get deleted, only files, so you could try that. But note that you adopted the wrong solution really, since you don't want a system that will stop working because you filled up /tmp inadvertently with downloaded files...
[08:27] <wrektjet> hey i a usb drive that used to show up automatically if i had to restart for some reason. lately ive had to pull it out and pop it back in for it to register. is there a better way?
[08:27] <bigmack83_> rww, thanks it looks like info on there should help me.
[08:27] <kekale> anyone have an idea about script-based user management? Especially: how to add users using a script that does not have to be run as root? Is that even possible?
[08:28] <avishek> How would I disable monitor sleep on Ubuntu Server 9.10?
[08:28] <rww> bigmack83_: you're welcome; good luck :)
[08:28] <Jordan_U> kekale: Why do you want non root users adding users?
[08:28] <losha> avishek: are you sure it's not internal to the monitor?
[08:28] <TPS> What do I set as mount point ?
[08:28] <TPS> Just "/" ?
[08:29] <bigmack83_> rww, thx
[08:29] <avishek> losha: I'm sorry, I don't quite follow what you mean.
[08:29] <kekale> Jordan_U, www-data would like to do that, not regular users :D
[08:29] <rww> avishek: did you try "setterm -powersave off -blank 0" already?
[08:29] <kekale> Jordan_U, and the reason is, as you might be able to deduce from my answer, that I would have a php script that would enable adding users
[08:29] <avishek> losha: But I have two machines with Ubuntu Server 9.10 installed, with 2 different monitors, and both go off at 10 minutes
[08:29] <losha> TPS: do you have data you need to save? If not, just select 'use entire disk' during partitioning and install will wipe all the partitions and start from scratch
[08:30] <TPS> losha: I have a Windows 7 partition
[08:30] <avishek> rww: I tried setterm, but not with blank 0, I'll give it a try
[08:30] <losha> avishek: ok, probably not done inside the monitors then...
[08:30] <TPS> losha: I have a Windows 7 partition and another partition from when I installed Ubuntu side-by-side
[08:30] <kekale> One way would be to add www-data as a sudoer I guess... but that would be a terribly bad one, I guess.
[08:30] <floppyears> does anybody here know if boxee works on karmic ?
[08:31] <Jordan_U> kekale: You can do that with just /etc/sudoers and useradd but I really suggest you find a pre-made, maintained, and well security audited solution instead
[08:31] <Nyha1> The sound on my eeepc is all f****ed up... when I mute the speakers give me sparkling sound and so on and when the volume goes up its the same...
[08:31] <TPS> losha: But I aborted the installation and the partition is still there
[08:31] <TPS> So I install side-by-side again ?
[08:31] <kekale> Jordan_U, probably the best idea. Any pointers? *g*
[08:32] <Jordan_U> kekale: Only thing I can think of off hand is landscape but that's proprietary and costs money
[08:32] <losha> TPS: first, make a backup of your windows system. How big is the new partition you made?
[08:32] <xgpt> can anyone here suggest a good *general* server help channel/
[08:32] <xgpt> ?
[08:32] <TPS> 420.2 GB
[08:32] <TPS> @losha
[08:33] <TPS> Then what do I do after that ?
[08:33] <kekale> oh dear, money is an issue. Thanks anyway Jordan_U :D
[08:33] <avishek> rww: I've followed your advice. Thank you! I'll let you know if it works.
[08:33] <losha> TPS: that's pretty large. Any unallocate space left on the disk?
[08:33] <TPS> Nope
[08:34] <TPS> Just two partitions
[08:34] <losha> TPS: and how much ram?
[08:34] <TPS> I have 8 GB of RAM
[08:34] <plague> TPS nice rig
[08:34] <TPS> Thanks plague
[08:35] <TPS> I think if I install side-by-side, it'll just made a third partition
[08:35] <TPS> So should I delete the old Ubuntu partition and then install on that free space ?
[08:35] <rww> TPS: yes
[08:35] <TPS> What do I make the root ?
[08:35] <TPS> Just "/" ?
[08:36] <losha> TPS: the best setup is to have 2 ubuntu partitions: one for / (about 10G) and the rest for /home. Use a partitioner to do that. Choose ext3 format.
[08:36] <TPS> Oh, okay
[08:36] <virgil> hi guys
[08:36] <TPS> I think I can set that up
[08:36] <TPS> Why two, though ?
[08:36] <losha> TPS: you can do that from the live cd, using gparted.
[08:37] <TPS> losha: I can, but I'm also already in the partitioner, and I can change it there as well
[08:37] <ardchoille> TPS: If you put /home on its own partiton, you can save your $HOME if you ever have to reinstall the OS
[08:37] <losha> TPS: one for the OS, the other for any files/data. That way, you can upgrade the OS without losing/changing any data
[08:37] <TPS> Ah, okay
[08:37] <losha> TPS: you can stick it all on one partition if you want, but this will be easier for later upgrades...
[08:38] <TPS> So ext3 is better than ext4 ?
[08:38] <ardchoille> TPS: more stable, less problems
[08:38] <losha> TPS: ext3 is better for *beginners*....
[08:38] <TPS> Thanks
[08:38] <TPS> I'm definitely a beginner
[08:38] <losha> TPS: which os version are you installing, by the way?
[08:39] <TPS> So "/" should be 10000 MB ?
[08:39] <TPS> 9.10
[08:39] <kharloss> hi there. i try recompile the kernel with latest version. At Processor family  is checked "Pentium Pro " option , but my CPU is Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz . I`m sure i have to recheck another option but i found 3 Xeon alternatives ... " 1) Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon "   2) Pentium-II/Celeron(pre-Coppermine)    3) Core 2/newer Xeon . which one i have to chose ?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> kekale: Possibly ebox
[08:39] <losha> TPS: yes, actually I'd make that 10240MB, but it doesn't have to be exact...
[08:40] <TPS> And that's the one I install on ?
[08:40] <losha> TPS: you need to tell the installer that this one will be the / (root) partition
[08:40] <stix> HI guys. Everytime I hibernate my Ubuntu, it starts up right away again. What could be wrong?
[08:41] <sumodumo> did u install with with wubi?
[08:41] <TPS> losha: I told it to make the mount point "/"
[08:41] <TPS> Is that correct ?
[08:41] <losha> TPS: good. Now make another partition, using the rest of the disk (or less, if you want some space leftover for yet another OS, and tell the partitioner it is /home
[08:42] <TPS> Also Ext3, I assume ? @losha
[08:42] <Guest54220> can anyone tell me wht is under /var/www ??
[08:42] <Ddorda> can anyone check for me if the app touchfreeze shows in the software centre? (i'm not on 9.10 atm)
[08:42] <losha> TPS: yes, both ext3
[08:42] <stix> Guest11270, ls /var/www ?
[08:42] <TPS> Okay, and that's /home
[08:42] <TPS> And GRUB will recognise this when I boot ?
[08:42] <ardchoille> Guest54220: Usually reserved for web server content
[08:43] <idiot> losha>	i have just deleted it by mistake
[08:43] <losha> TPS: ok, so you should have 3 partitions: windows, / and /home
[08:43] <Guest23228> i was supposed to delete a folder under it
[08:43] <TPS> losha: I do
[08:43] <Guest23228> losha : i was supposed to delete a folder under it
[08:43] <ardchoille> Guest23228: Are you running some type of server?
[08:44] <Guest23228> but by mistake i deleted /var/www,
[08:44] <losha> TPS: good. I don't remember what comes next in the install, offhand....
[08:44] <Guest23228> yes. ubuntu 8.04
[08:44] <TPS> Next is "Who are you ?"
[08:44] <ardchoille> Guest23228: no, I mean a web server
[08:44] <losha> TPS: very good, proceed....
[08:44] <TPS> Wait, losha
[08:44] <Guest23228> how do i find out
[08:44] <Jordan_U> kekale: ebox has the ability to add users and looks active / well maintained. Don't know how secure it is but it's certainly something to look at
[08:44] <TPS> There's a 9.4 GB of linux-swap
[08:45] <OSGUIAnon> box380
[08:45] <TPS> And a 100 MB ntfs
[08:45] <ardchoille> Guest23228: Did you install apache?
[08:45] <TPS> Is that supposed to be there ?
[08:45] <avishek> rww: it works! Thank you very much for your help -- I really appreciate it!
[08:45] <rww> avishek: You're welcome!
[08:45] <Guest23228> losha > hmmyea i guess
[08:46] <losha> TPS: usually with 8GB of ram, you won't need a swap partition. Where did the 100MB ntfs come from?
[08:46] <losha> Guest23228: why are you talking to me?
[08:46] <TPS> I think from the first time I installed Ubuntu
[08:46] <TPS> When I aborted
[08:46] <ajay-tech> hi
[08:46] <ardchoille> TPS: Is this a 64 bit system?
[08:46] <TPS> Yes
[08:46] <ardchoille> ok
[08:47] <ardchoille> TPS: And you're installing the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[08:47] <om26er> !hi | ajay-tech
[08:47] <TPS> ardchoille: I believe so, yes
[08:47] <ardchoille> ok
[08:48] <losha> TPS: can you list the partitions, in order, giving their size and type. I want to be sure:
[08:48] <ajay-tech> most of the times i have seen 100mb ntfs is when windows has the bootloader
[08:49] <losha> ajay-tech: makes sense. Better not to delete it in that case :-)
[08:49] <Guest23228> thanks guys
[08:49] <gusty_> hi. i can i try xfce without installing xubuntu?
[08:49] <TPS> losha: sda1 (ntfs): 100 MB / sda2 (ntfs): 501.8 GB / sda 6 (ext3): 9.5 GB / sda7 (ext3): 410.7 GB  / sda5 (linux-swap): 9.4 GB
[08:49] <Guest23228> sorry i just restored it from backups
[08:50] <TPS> losha: sda6 is  "/"
[08:50] <gusty_> hi. i can i try xfce without installing xubuntu?
[08:50] <TPS> losha: sda7 is "/home"
[08:50] <ajay-tech> or it may be bios
[08:50] <kirun> a
[08:50] <kirun> semarang
[08:50] <rww> gusty_: yes. Install the `xfce4' or `xubuntu-desktop' package.
[08:51] <losha> TPS: definitely leave those ntfs filesystems alone! The rest looks fine. Might as well keep the swap partition for now. I think you're ready to proceed....
[08:51] <gusty_> rww: are both same?
[08:51] <TPS> Thanks losha !
[08:51]  * TPS proceeds
[08:51] <ardchoille> TPS: are all of those partitions on one hard drive?
[08:51] <TPS> Yes
[08:52] <stevr1it> probelm with metacity, it works only with effects "normal" if it set the creen with nothing it does not work and the frames are disappearing. can you help me?
[08:52] <ajay-tech> how many operating systems do u have?
[08:52] <ajay-tech> TPS?
[08:53] <TPS> Oh, sorry ajay-tech
[08:53] <TPS> On this HD, I plan to have two
[08:53] <TPS> Currently only one
[08:53] <TPS> Installing a second
[08:53] <Samuli^> I'd give ubuntu a little more than 9.5 GB if I had that much space.
[08:54] <ajay-tech> because i have had that and made one partition smaller and linux didn't know where it was
[08:54] <TPS> Ah
[08:54] <montom> Hi guys i have a Toshiba satellite L505D, i installed Ubuntu 9.10 Alternate, it worked fine for about a week then today
[08:54] <TPS> Samuli^: Well, that was just the root
[08:54] <TPS> My home folder is big
[08:54] <Samuli^> TPS, I was talking about the root, yes.
[08:55] <TPS> Do I need more than 9.5 ?
[08:55] <ajay-tech> montom what is wrong?
[08:55] <Samuli^> to be honest... probably not. But what if you do? :)
[08:55] <montom> when i turned my machine on i got this error Invalid
[08:55] <TPS> Samuli^: I reinstall, yet another time ;_;
[08:55] <ajay-tech> was that grub?
[08:55] <losha> TPS: 10G should be plenty for now. You'll be able to resize later if necessary...
[08:55] <montom> invalid enviorment block, failed to boot default entries
[08:55] <TPS> losha: I agree
[08:56] <Cheph> Hello all I am having truble booting ubuntu. you see I upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 recently but accedentaly left my ubuntu 9.10 install CD in my disck trey and now whenever I try to boot Ubuntu I get the following error (after grub but befor login screen): "init: mountall main process (909) terminated with status 3 mount of filesystem failed" does anyone e any ideas on how to rescue my ubuntu?
[08:56] <ajay-tech> mon that is grub loosing the partiton
[08:56] <montom> what do i do?
[08:56] <losha> TPS: I have to go, it's 1pm here, ok?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> ajay-tech: montom: Not that is not what it is
[08:56] <om26er> losha: where you live?
[08:56] <TPS> losha: Okay, thanks for all your help
[08:57] <ajay-tech> looking into it now
[08:57] <losha> om26er: California
[08:57] <Draconis> pppsh
[08:57] <TPS> I think he meant 1 AM
[08:57] <om26er> losha: then that would be i.am iguess
[08:57] <losha> TPS: sigh, I did mean 1am. I'm tired :-)
[08:57] <TPS> It's 4 AM here
[08:57] <Draconis> California did something weird yesterday
[08:57] <TPS> (Atlanta)
[08:57] <om26er> 2pm
[08:57] <TPS> I've been trying to get my computer back straight since midnight
[08:57] <ajay-tech> its 7:57 pm here Australia
[08:58] <TPS> Been a long night
[08:58] <soreau> losha: You mean 1am
[08:58] <Samuli^> 11 am here
[08:58] <Jordan_U> montom: Boot a 9.10 liveCD, mount your Ubuntu partition to /mnt and run "sudo grub-editenv /mnt/boot/grub/grubenv create"
[08:58] <om26er> !time > om26er
[08:58] <ajay-tech> ty jordan
[08:59] <Jordan_U> montom: When you are booted into Ubuntu make sure to update since that bug was fixed a while ago
[08:59] <TPS> 62%
[08:59] <Jordan_U> ajay-tech: np
[08:59] <montom> thanks Jordan_U
[08:59] <Jordan_U> montom: np
[09:01] <ajay-tech> also i found a good linux comunity called osgui you can find it in google
[09:01] <Arc> does anyone know what usb hid debug tools are available on jaunty?
[09:01] <Arc> er, karmic
[09:02] <ajay-tech> nope sorry Arc i dont know any
[09:02] <khelvan> Hello, I am trying to compile fuppes from svn, and I am getting this error, can anyone help me understand it? /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libavformat.a(allformats.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `aac_demuxer' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[09:02] <ShawnRisk> I am trying to connect to my wireless but I can't seem to figure this out.  I am connected on my Mac Laptop but not on my Ubuntu 9.10.  I can see the wireless connection but when I try to connect it doesn't give me an error at all.  Any ideas?
[09:03] <ajay-tech> Shawn have u tried just ubuntu by itself? without mac
[09:03] <Jordan_U> TPS: What problem are you having?
[09:03] <TPS> Jordan_U: I was not sure how to specify partitions when installing
[09:03] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk do you configure your connection manually, or using network manager? And do you use Static IP or DHCP?
[09:03] <TPS> Now the installer supposedly finished
[09:04] <TPS> My display is black and in standby
[09:04] <TPS> And it isn't restarting or anything, though...
[09:04] <Muddleworth> !orgy | maco
[09:04] <Arc> i have a EMSUSB2 that doesnt seem to work on 9.10
[09:04] <TPS> Kinda worried that it won't work
[09:04] <TPS> Sigh
[09:04] <Jordan_U> TPS: Just wiggle the mouse / press shift. That's just the screen blanking from inactivity
[09:04] <ShawnRisk> littlegreen: both manually and network connections.  As for static ip or dhcp it is dhcp I think.
[09:05] <TPS> Jordan_U: HAHAHA
[09:05] <TPS> Thanks !
[09:05] <Jordan_U> TPS: np :)
[09:05] <TPS> If I realised that last time, instead of just turning off my PC
[09:05] <TPS> I would've saved an hour of my time
[09:05] <gusty_> can i get .img file instead of .iso?
[09:05] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk So... your Ubuntu machine doesn't aquire IP address or... what happens? Does it detect the security protocol automatically or you don't have one?
[09:06] <acfrazier> Alright I just want to make sure this isn't a palimpsest bug, but it's reporting that I have over 200,000 bad sectors, should I be concerned about replacing the drive?
[09:06] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk what router/access point do you use?
[09:06] <Jordan_U> gusty_: You can get a .img file for Ubuntu Netboot Remix
[09:06] <rww> gusty_: what do you want to use the .img file for?
[09:06] <gusty_> Jordan_U: can i convert iso to img?
[09:07] <gusty_> rww: i want a img file for ubuntu destop alternate
[09:08] <TPS> Arghhh
[09:08] <gusty_> rww: and my cd writer is damaged
[09:08] <TPS> This happened last time
[09:08] <TPS> I don't know why
[09:08] <TPS> But my displays are backwards
[09:08] <ShawnRisk> littlegreen: it doesn't automatically get the security protocol and I am using WEP.  I am using 2Wire Gateway.
[09:08] <TPS> It puts the applications, places, system
[09:08] <TPS> On the wrong monitor
[09:08] <rww> gusty_: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[09:08] <TPS> Now it just fixed itself randomly
[09:08] <w9> ore
[09:08] <TPS> Actually no it didn't
[09:09] <TPS> It keeps going nuts
[09:09] <acfrazier> Is there a palimpsest bug that would cause it to report ridiculous amounts of bad sectors?
[09:09] <keetah> Cheph: have you tried the live disc at all?
[09:09] <ajay-tech> just move the screens around in display
[09:09] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk are you running Ubuntu on a laptop? If you do - tell me what's your Wifi card chip
[09:09] <Jordan_U> TPS: Anything usefull in System > Preferences > Display?
[09:09] <littlegreen> ShawnRisk or at least the laptop model
[09:09] <SmokeyD1> hey people. I enabled remote desktop viewing on my ubuntu karmic machine. When I connect to this machine from another machine, I only see the background image of my box.
[09:09] <TPS> Jordan_U: Do you know how to make a monitor default ?
[09:09] <TPS> I'm in the display prefs
[09:10] <TPS> And my resolutions are correct
[09:10] <gusty_> rww: ok
[09:10] <TPS> But it won't put them on the right monitor
[09:10] <SmokeyD1> when I look at the screen of the remote machine, the mouse is moving and everything works, except that I don't see any windows on the vnc machine.
[09:10] <TPS> The only way I can get it to the left monitor is by disabling the right one
[09:10] <ajay-tech> move them by dragging them
[09:10] <tiaray> hello
[09:10] <ajay-tech> the screens that is
[09:10] <TPS> ajay-tech: Doesn't work
[09:11] <TPS> Oh, I did that already
[09:11] <Cheph> Keetah: yes but it did not have a rescue option, it had a check disk but that did not show any errors
[09:11] <tiaray> can anyone tell me what is (initramfs)_ prompt message at the boot time ?
[09:11] <soreau> SmokeyD1: Have you tried disabling visual effects for the box you are vncing into?
[09:11] <TPS> ajay-tech: The screens are in the correct position in display prefs
[09:11] <kekale> thanks Jordan_U again for the ebox tip.
[09:11] <SmokeyD1> soreau: no, is that it? I'll check now. Thanks
[09:12] <TPS> I don't know why it thinks the monitor on the right is default
[09:12] <TPS> Sigh
[09:12] <ajay-tech> maybe it may be the computers connections
[09:12] <indus> tiaray: means, system cant find kernel to boot
[09:12] <indus> tiaray: kinda
[09:12] <SmokeyD1> soreau: that was it indeed. Thanks
[09:12] <TPS> ajay-tech: What does that mean ?
[09:12] <Jordan_U> kekale: np
[09:12] <tiaray> thanks indus
[09:12] <indus> tiaray: you have that problem?
[09:12] <stix> Hi guys. Everytime I hibernate my Ubuntu, it starts up right away again. What could be wrong?
[09:12] <ajay-tech> have u tried swaping the cables around?
[09:12] <jRiddick> Hi :OD
[09:13] <jRiddick> :D*
[09:13] <tiaray> indus> yes > I have that problem with ubuntu 9.10 server with raid
[09:13] <acfrazier> Alright, well palimpsest is reporting that my laptop has around 200 thousand bad sectors and that my drive is failing. Is this a known bug or is my drive really failing?
[09:13] <ajay-tech> stix maybe a button being pressed or dirt on trackpad
[09:13] <Arc> i could really use some help debugging this
[09:13] <indus> tiaray: k
[09:13] <soreau> stix: It is a graphics driver issue
[09:14] <tiaray> indus> is there any way to get rid of it ?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> TPS: System > Preferences > Display
[09:14] <TPS> ajay-tech: No, I didn't try that
[09:14] <stix> soreau, is there some documentation on that?
[09:14] <TPS> Jordan_U: I'm there and it isn't helping
[09:14] <indus> tiaray: nope
[09:14] <indus> tiaray: some problem with the install
[09:14] <soreau> stix: Not really, but you can file a bug
[09:14] <TPS> ajay-tech: Will that make my Windows prefs backwards when I start up ?
[09:15] <indus> acfrazier: was bug , fixed later
[09:15] <tiaray> indus> no problem with install, but I got it after I launched update
[09:15] <indus> tiaray: you probably did a partial upgrade then
[09:15] <Jordan_U> TPS: What graphics card?
[09:15] <indus> tiaray: try command update initramfs
[09:15] <indus> !initramfs
[09:15] <TPS> Radeon 4890
[09:15] <stix> soreau, okay, but how do you know where the problem is then?
[09:15] <TPS> @Jordan_U
[09:16] <soreau> stix: Because I have the same problem
[09:16] <khelvan> Can anyone suggest a streaming multimedia server that has a GUI interface where I can set it up to stream movies and music on my network, to my Xbox 360, and so on?
[09:16] <Jordan_U> TPS: Are you using the radeon driver or fglrx?
[09:16] <stix> soreau, and then you just figured, that it is your graphics drivers?
[09:16] <tiaray> indus> you mean, in the (initramfs)_ prompt shell
[09:16] <indus> tiaray: hmm no nvm
[09:16] <TPS> Jordan_U: Radeon driver installation is happening right now
[09:16] <indus> tiaray: sorry
[09:17] <indus> tiaray: how did you install this
[09:17] <ajay-tech> http://www.osgui.com if you need any more of my help
[09:17] <ajay-tech> and others at osgui
[09:17] <Jordan_U> TPS: Ubunt comes with the radeon driver by default, are you sure you don't mean the proprietary driver ( fglrx )?
[09:17] <indus> ajay-tech: advertising not allowed here :)
[09:17] <jRiddick> Hi :D
[09:17] <TPS> Jordan_U: You're right
[09:17] <soreau> stix: No, I do latest development driver testing and it used to work but now it doesnt. It is because the portion of the kernel that does the graphics driver stuff is responsible for suspend/resume functionality
[09:17] <TPS> It is FGLRX
[09:18] <TPS> I just installed FGLRX
[09:18] <ajay-tech> sorry all about advertising
[09:18] <tiaray> I installed it with a ubuntu9.10 amd 64. The server is a dell with a built-in raid.
[09:18] <indus> ajay-tech: just kidding
[09:18] <ajay-tech> lol
[09:18] <Linux-IRC> Which editor do you use for java,c++ ?
[09:18] <soreau> stix: It should work again in the future when it gets fixed
[09:18] <tiaray> indus>http://www.osgui.com
[09:18] <tiaray> indus>I installed it with a ubuntu9.10 amd 64. The server is a dell with a built-in raid.
[09:19] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, a lot of people use eclipse.
[09:19] <indus> tiaray: so you ran apt-get update and upgrade later?
[09:19] <tiaray> indus> yes
[09:19] <indus> ajay-tech: is that yout site?
[09:19] <indus> your
[09:19] <Linux-IRC> What's the compiler for java ? What's the command to compile .java file from terminal ?
[09:20] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, javac
[09:20] <Jordan_U> Linux-IRC: javac
[09:20] <TimOSGUI> hi all
[09:20] <ajay-tech> hi tim
[09:20] <Linux-IRC> What's the command to install javac ?
[09:20] <soreau> stix: The best thing you can do is file a bug report describing your problem and giving your hardware information
[09:20] <indus> tiaray: was it a partial upgrade?
[09:20] <indus> tiaray: initramfs didnt update probably
[09:20] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, sudo apt-get install java6-sun-jdk I believe
[09:21] <stix> soreau, okay I will do that
[09:21] <indus> tiaray: use the alternate cd to rescue
[09:21] <Jordan_U> tiaray: Did the installer seem to see your raid array properly?
[09:21] <nidelius> how can I change the number of rows each scroll step is? right now it
[09:21] <Linux-IRC> Draconis: sudo apt-get install java6-sun-jre , will it work ?
[09:21] <tiaray> indus> Yes, it did
[09:21] <nidelius> is at four lines each scroll
[09:21] <PFA> hey, i'm having ridiculous problems w/ hibernate on critical battery power on karmic. first is that it hibernates even *after* i plug in the adapter, sometimes seemingly when it still has tons of power left (and always right after); second is that when it wakes up often it blackscreens and freezes until i press the power button and force shut down.
[09:21] <TimOSGUI> have you all been to www.OSGUI.com
[09:21] <ardchoille> !ot | TimOSGUI
[09:21] <TimOSGUI> its the best new Open Source support site
[09:22] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, err sorry... try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[09:22] <indus> ok too much advertising
[09:22] <ee06047> list
[09:22] <indus> #ubuntu - off topic
[09:22] <tiaray> jordan_U> yes It did
[09:22] <Jordan_U> tiaray: Was that meant for me?
[09:22] <Linux-IRC> Draconis: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre , will it work too?
[09:22] <Jordan_U> tiaray: Sorry about the double post
[09:22] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, only one way to find out :)
[09:22] <tiaray> jordan_U> yes
[09:23] <LadyCrossfader> hello
[09:23] <ajay-tech> hi ladycrossfader
[09:23] <tiaray> jordan_U> no problem
[09:23] <Linux-IRC> Draconis: So why do i need sun-java6-jre ?
[09:24] <Draconis> after that just try to do java -version
[09:24] <Draconis> Linux-IRC, you are the only one saying you need it :)
[09:24] <Linux-IRC> Give a suggestion for better window manager with desktop icon ,
[09:25] <Linux-IRC> Give a suggestion for better lightweight window manager with desktop icon ,
[09:25] <Linux-IRC> panel,menu
[09:25] <Linux-IRC> desktop icon
[09:25] <indus> Linux-IRC: try enlightenment
[09:26] <indus> !wm
[09:26] <indus> !windowmanager
[09:26] <carloseugenio> quit
[09:26] <stix> soreau, which version of the nvidia drivers are you using?
[09:26] <soreau> stix: I dont use nvidia drivers
[09:27] <les> Linux-IRC: walmea, sawfish, there's lots. google one.
[09:27] <ShawnRisk> indus: hey.  still working on the same problem.
[09:27] <stix> soreau, then my problem isn't caused by those drivers
[09:27] <soreau> stix: yes it is
[09:27] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm i dont have a wireless router but i can only help you in case you miss any steps
[09:27] <stix> soreau, but you have the problem and are not using the drivers?
[09:28] <indus> ShawnRisk: could you again tell me details of your setup
[09:28] <Linux-IRC> les: indus , I need also icons , http://roscidus.com/desktop/ , http://www.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/pub/PROGRAMY/PLD/pulpit.png
[09:28] <soreau> stix: The problem is in the nvidia kernel module
[09:28] <ShawnRisk> indus: Ubuntu 9.10, WEP, 2Wire Gateway
[09:28] <stix> soreau, so no matter what hardware you have, hibernation is controlled by an nvidia kernel module?
[09:28] <les> Linux-IRC: did you even bother to look at the suggestions given? all 3 support icons on the desktop.
[09:29] <indus> Linux-IRC: use that rox then
[09:29] <ub2> !pastebin
[09:29] <soreau> stix: No, it is controlled by the graphics driver kernel code
[09:29] <indus> Linux-IRC: including enlightenment i believe
[09:29] <indus> !enlightenment
[09:30] <indus> aah no it doesnt
[09:30] <Linux-IRC> Installing enlightenment, will install walmea,sawfish
[09:30] <indus> try avant window decorator
[09:30] <indus> on top of gnome :)
[09:30] <maco> indus: navigator
[09:30] <stix> soreau, do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[09:30] <soreau> stix: yes
[09:30] <indus> maco: navigator ? what is it?
[09:30] <ardchoille> !info awn
[09:30] <maco> indus: avant window navigator, not decorator
[09:31] <stix> soreau, okay, you're just not using the nvidia drivers - only some nvidia driver kernel code?
[09:31] <indus> maco: aha yes indeed avn
[09:31] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[09:31] <soreau> stix: No, I have this issue on my radeon box. My nvidia box I do not s/r
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> !awn | indus
[09:32] <indus> ShawnRisk: can i see a screenshot of that netwrk window
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> maco: easier ;)
[09:32] <indus> well well welcome
[09:32] <Mud> ey guys
[09:32] <indus> i hate awn but anyways
[09:32] <stix> soreau, okay, then I don't get it when you say it is a graphics driver issue
[09:32] <Mud> I am running ubuntu 8.04 and I created a user
[09:32] <Mud> but when I login as that user, I dont have any [tab]functions etc
[09:32] <littlegreen> Mud try typing all in one line
[09:32] <Mud> and ps dont show the basshell
[09:32] <Mud> how do I fix that?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> indus: simdock is much slicker, doesnt require compositing either :D
[09:33] <indus> ShawnRisk: hello?
[09:33] <indus> ShawnRisk: there?
[09:33] <soreau> stix: When you suspend, the kernel needs to store the state of the machine, all registers of the hardware etc. The most significant part of this is the graphics hardware state
[09:34] <ShawnRisk> indus: would but I can't connect on the linux laptop
[09:34] <indus> unless i find something as slick and well integrated like in a mac, i aint using decorators
[09:34] <indus> ShawnRisk: does it wokr ok in windows
[09:34] <indus> ShawnRisk: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/38493 maybe this helps
[09:35] <soreau> stix: When it fails, it is most likely something failed so instead of storing a bad state, it aborts and bounces right back
[09:35] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes and mac
[09:35] <soreau> stix: But like I said, your best course of action is to file a bug describing your problem and hardware specs
[09:35] <stix> soreau, okay - I will have a look in /var/log/messages next time
[09:36] <stix> soreau, yes okay
[09:36] <indus> ShawnRisk: so you see networks in the network panel ? but cant connect to it is that correct?
[09:36] <ShawnRisk> indus: yes
[09:37] <indus> ShawnRisk: can i see a screenshot of tjhis?
[09:37] <indus> !paste | ShawnRisk
[09:37] <ShawnRisk> indus: nope, wish I could get you one.  I am trying to read the website now
[09:38] <Lxcc-Vincenzo> hi all, i want to see/modify/convert jpeg2000 files, how i can do it?
[09:38] <luckymurali> hi to all
[09:38] <luckymurali> how can i delete all the lines in a files when the line consists of non printable character???
[09:40] <ShawnRisk> it worked
[09:40] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: strings file > newfile ( do NOT do strings file > file as that will delete the file )
[09:40] <luckymurali> Jordan_U, hi
[09:41] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: Hi
[09:41] <luckymurali> ok i try this
[09:41] <luckymurali> thanks
[09:41] <rhorse> luckymurali: just rm file and then touch file
[09:41] <ShawnRisk> indus: was connected for a second, now it said failed, and still searching now.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> luckymurali: np
[09:41] <indus> ShawnRisk: good, keep try
[09:41] <luckymurali> rhorse, I am not getting u
[09:41] <indus> ShawnRisk: you mean you could surf for a sec
[09:41] <indus> luckymurali: touch is a commadn to create a new empty file
[09:42] <RussellAlan> Anyone, http://paste.ubuntu.com/331563/
[09:42] <Mud> anyone a idea how to get bashshell working under a normal account on ubuntu 8.04 server?
[09:42] <luckymurali> indus, ok
[09:42] <ShawnRisk> indus: didn't get the chance, it just said connected and now it is searching and the password box came up again
[09:42] <Mud> I miss very basic commands as [tab] etc
[09:42] <luckymurali> :)
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Mud: Bash is the default shell for new users
[09:43] <indus> ShawnRisk: which parameters are you using for connecting
[09:43] <Mud> Jordan_U: apperently not for that account
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Mud: How did you create the user?
[09:43] <grawity> Mud: chsh -s /bin/bash theusername
[09:43] <ShawnRisk> indus: WEP 40/128-bit key
[09:43] <Mud> adduser with -d and -m parameters
[09:44] <indus> ShawnRisk: what is the other values? index etc
[09:44] <indus> Mud: always use the persons nick when speaking, so it highlights and makes it easier to respond to :)]
[09:44] <Mud> ok indus
[09:44] <ShawnRisk> indus: how to check?
[09:44] <Mud> grawity; gonna try it now
[09:45] <RussellAlan> what's the ubuntu server channel#?
[09:45] <indus> ShawnRisk: in that netwrok manger  window, under wireless security
[09:45] <indus> #ubuntu-server
[09:45] <Mud> grawity: that worked :o thanx!
[09:45] <indus> grawity: chsh is for change shell?
[09:46] <grawity> indus: Yeah
[09:46] <Mud> grawity: what did cause the problem?
[09:46] <RussellAlan> odd, i typed the same thing a second ago and it wasnt there,
[09:46] <RussellAlan> -D
[09:46] <ShawnRisk> indus: 1
[09:46] <CHESLYN> can anyone help me with my 'apt-get'.i can install any package , i even tried to upgrade.i think it has a problem with the ''archive'' any help guys
[09:46] <indus> ShawnRisk: maybe try with 2 ? also is it a shared key or open system
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: can you give a pastebin of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install gedit      thanks. Use http://pastebin.com
[09:47] <Mud> grawity: I have a 'administrator' account (and can sudo) and that one dont had that problems..very strange :)
[09:47] <ShawnRisk> indus: shows open system
[09:47] <indus> ShawnRisk: under ipv4 do you see any ip addresses
[09:47] <flaviotruzzi> I am getting a memory leak when using matplotlib savefig in ubuntu 9.10
[09:47] <ShawnRisk> indus: nope
[09:48] <indus> ShawnRisk: so tht is a problem, you should see some ips its unable to grab any
[09:48] <indus> ShawnRisk: try value 2
[09:48] <ShawnRisk> ok
[09:49] <wubuntu> Hey, my volume and network stuff disappeared from my panel
[09:49] <indus> ShawnRisk: then see if you can apply that settings, if yes then check for ip adress again
[09:49] <indus> wubuntu: right click on panel and add to panel , add the volume panel ,
[09:50] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: let me 1ste try sudo apt-get --reinstall gedit.i'll get back to you, thanks alot
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: right click panel -> add item   add it back
[09:50] <indus> wubuntu: network panel cant be added that way , will reappear on login
[09:50] <miklos> anybody with acer emachines?
[09:50] <wubuntu> indus, ActionParsnip1
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: sure, if you get any interesting output use the link I gave to provide the output here
[09:50] <wubuntu> They aren't in the add item
[09:50] <wubuntu> And network didn't come back after relog
[09:51] <indus> wubuntu: volume control applet is always there
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: you have to run nm-applet to get that back
[09:51] <wubuntu> ActionParsnip1: How do I run that ?
[09:51] <indus> wubuntu: for network just open terminal and type nm-applet
[09:51] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: thanks again i'll try it
[09:51] <AmbrNewlearner> Hello, I'm trying to configure my usb interface for ADSL 2+ router...But ubuntu doesnot shows my usb interface in ifconfig output
[09:51] <AmbrNewlearner> Here: http://pastebin.com/m53a2c11f
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: sounds like you have removed the system tray or notification area
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: press alt+f2   type: nm-applet   press enter
[09:52] <wubuntu> Didn't work
[09:52] <AmbrNewlearner> This is my tailing part of dmesg
[09:52] <wubuntu> ** (nm-applet:6054): WARNING **: <WARN>  request_name(): Could not acquire the session service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[09:52] <wubuntu> ** (nm-applet:6054): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[09:52] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, how can I make my wireless lan card connect on startup of the machine, instead of on login? It is using wpa2 encryption
[09:52] <indus> wubuntu: yeah go to system monitor and kill nm-applet first
[09:52] <indus> wubuntu: then run the command again
[09:53] <ShawnRisk> indus: I tried that and it came back with athentication box again.  There is nothing showing up for IP Address and it is Auto DCHP.  I also edited it manually to change the value to 2
[09:53] <indus> wubuntu: then go to system>preferences>sessions or startup applications and add nm-applet to it and save
[09:53] <theadmin> Something crazy just happened. When I booted, on white Karmic logo, it said something like "Checking filesystem", what is that all about?
[09:53] <SmokeyD> right now I have to login first, before the macine comes online, but I want it to go online already on startup so I can ssh into it and stuff
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> wubuntu: you won't get that if you use the alt+f2 menu like I said, you used a terminal which will make the applet close when you close the terminal
[09:53] <SmokeyD> I am running ubuntu karmic
[09:53] <indus> ShawnRisk: it should be auto ip? you have static ?
[09:53] <soreau> SmokeyD: Write a script to connect and put it in /etc/rc.local
[09:53] <AmbrNewlearner> Here is my ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/m682176cd
[09:53] <indus> ShawnRisk: iam not a network expert, i have static ip at work so it shows , maybe for you its dhcp
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: the system has been mounted 30 times so a scheduled file system check is running to make sure the data is ok
[09:54] <AmbrNewlearner> Any ideas?
[09:54] <virl> hi, does anybody in here uses mono_mod on his apache webserver? and does it work there with mass virtual hosts?
[09:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Ain't running fsck on a mounted system dangerous?
[09:54] <wubuntu> indus: Neither of those are there
[09:54] <ShawnRisk> indus: not that I know of.  I have auto ip,
[09:54] <SmokeyD> soreau: hmm, what script should I write? Does network manager work when I am not logged in? Or should I disable network manager completely if I want this?
[09:54] <wubuntu> Setup and startup
[09:54] <wubuntu> Neither are there
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: its not mounted, its unmounted beforethe check. but yes checking a monted partition is not good
[09:54] <indus> ShawnRisk: ok hmm did you restart the router ? it works a lot of times :)
[09:54] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Ah. Okay. Thanks
[09:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: and leave ipv4 to auto dhcp its correct
[09:55] <wubuntu> Nevermind, I see it
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> SmokeyD: could use /etc/network/interfaces file instead of network manager etc, this will configure the device before logon
[09:55] <ShawnRisk> indus:  but would restarting work if I am working on it now on another laptop?
[09:55] <indus> ShawnRisk: aah no i guess
[09:56] <indus> ShawnRisk: wait
[09:56] <soreau> SmokeyD: I disable all network manager facilities and use wpa-supplicant for the job
[09:56] <indus> ActionParsnip1: so what does one do if wireless detects networks but cant connect
[09:56] <AmbrNewlearner> Anyone knows how to config my usb router interface?
[09:56] <SmokeyD> soreau: ok, thanks
[09:56] <soreau> SmokeyD: ActionParsnip1s suggestion might be better though I have not tested that route
[09:56] <miklos> KDE 4 plays the music and goes blackscreen
[09:56] <indus> ShawnRisk: so the password window keeps apprearing?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> indus: disable security and try again
[09:57] <indus> ShawnRisk: so set security none and see
[09:57] <PFA> hey, i'm having ridiculous problems w/ hibernate on critical battery power on karmic. first is that it hibernates even *after* i plug in the adapter, sometimes seemingly when it still has tons of power left (and always right after); second is that when it wakes up often it blackscreens and freezes until i press the power button and force shut down.
[09:57] <ShawnRisk> indus: okay
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> PFA: hibernate is a real PITA to get working
[09:57] <frogzoo> woohoo - got my 3G modem to cooperate with network manager - that was a long haul
[09:57] <theadmin> PFA: Second one is known of, I have the same problem. Did you try Alt+SysRq+K when it is blackscreened?
[09:58] <PFA> ActionParsnip1, good to know -- probably shouldn't be enabled by default then. theadmin -- no, i didn't know that command existed, but i will try it next time; thank you
[09:58] <PFA> theadmin, what does it do?
[09:58] <SmokeyD> soreau: this sounds interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834
[09:59] <theadmin> PFA: Kills all apps in current VT (restarts Xserver, if you wish)... It's not very good, but better then hard reset
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> PFA: ifits a laptop, you may find guides based on make / model
[09:59] <AmbrNewlearner> Any body?
[09:59] <ShawnRisk> indus: it is creating a new connection everytime I try to connect to the same network.  I changed the security to none
[09:59] <PFA> ah...
[09:59] <indus> ShawnRisk: ya let it create, just see if it connects
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: usbrouter interface?
[10:00] <ShawnRisk> indus: it shows the password box
[10:00] <indus> ShawnRisk: for no security? what
[10:00] <PFA> well, thanks. i didn't see much solution on google, just others with the same problem... was hoping someone would know off the top of their heads
[10:00] <PFA> i've set it to go suspend on low battery for now, although that seem sto have similar issues.
[10:00] <soreau> SmokeyD: Looks good, try it out
[10:00] <ShawnRisk> indus: I know.
[10:00] <PFA> wish i could just disable it entirely.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: so, do you have a router which you connect to via USB?
[10:00] <PFA> take care, all
[10:00] <cbx33> anyone else find the netbook remix launcher REALLY slow on some older systems?
[10:00] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1: yes
[10:01] <maco> cbx33: its composited isnt it? makes sense
[10:01] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm if its asking for password then i dont know whats happening, wait i try at my place
[10:01] <theadmin> cbx33: Well, yeah, it can be slow.... you probably should try Xubuntu.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: is it detected as a netwok device in: sudo lshw -C network
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: or lxde
[10:01] <ShawnRisk> indus: trying
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: some have reported slowness, it does have a higher minimum spec than xubuntu/lxde etc
[10:02] <cbx33> well
[10:02] <cbx33> gnome woks fine on the machine
[10:02] <cbx33> firefox too
[10:02] <cbx33> everything except the launcher
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: then use it if you are happy with the performance
[10:02] <indus> hello check
[10:02] <cbx33> i am
[10:03] <cbx33> it's just concerning that such a simple program is giving such a negative impression of ubuntu
[10:03] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: it gives me ''Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?'' if i tried to sudo apt-get
[10:03] <indus> ShawnRisk: sure you got the wep key right?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: ok run: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:04] <ShawnRisk> indus: as far as I know
[10:04] <indus> ShawnRisk: RECONfigure router and get a fresh wep key
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> indus: does it connect without security?
[10:04] <ShawnRisk> indus: nope
[10:04] <indus> ActionParsnip1: ShawnRisk says it opens a new connection window
[10:05] <indus> ShawnRisk: which version of ubuntu are you ?
[10:05] <ShawnRisk> 9.10
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: its like any DE/WM type thing, ome love it, some hate it
[10:05] <indus> ShawnRisk: i think ActionParsnip1 can cguide a little better
[10:05] <danielle> where are the downloaded debs in ubuntu?
[10:06] <maco> cbx33: you can just use gnome without the unr launcher...
[10:06] <indus> danielle: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: disable all security on the router and attempt connection. If it connects then your WEP key is wrong or you are selecting the wrong type of WEP
[10:06] <danielle> no in the operating system :D
[10:06] <soreau> indus: He means on the system
[10:06] <indus> soreau: oh !
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: some love compiz, i think its garbage
[10:06] <cbx33> ActionParsnip1: I disagree - it's been written for lower end machines, and someone would download the netbook remix....try it and go back ot windows
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: that kind of jazz
[10:06] <indus> danielle: /var/cache/apt/archives i believe
[10:06] <ShawnRisk> indus: I think the problem was that I wasn't connected to the network the whole time, I disconnected and when I reconnected it opened a new connection.
[10:06] <danielle> thankyou
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> cbx33: i use windows daily for work
[10:07] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: it gives 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 166 not upgraded.what now?
[10:07] <maco> cbx33: netbooks arent really lower end... not in the way the 8 year old machine im using that handles compiz just fine is
[10:07] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: Why do you hate compiz so much?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: ok run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      use: http://pastebin.com to give the output
[10:07] <cbx33> maco: agreed
[10:07] <indus> ShawnRisk: you should go back and start over , and like ActionParsnip1 said, disable security on router
[10:07] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: nope because it is working on other computers mac and windows.
[10:07] <nightstrike> Hello everyone. Nothing I do is disabling the visual beep in my terminal (i'm using terminator). What do I do?
[10:07] <cbx33> I run on a 6 year old notebook
[10:07] <cbx33> and it's blazingly fast
[10:08] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1:  No it is not detected
[10:08] <cbx33> but because the launcher is an initial impression thing
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: makes stuff take too long for my liking, plus it achieves nothing but some pretty colours which I am totally disinterested in
[10:08] <ShawnRisk> indus: not going to work
[10:08] <maco> cbx33: did they have netbooks 6 years ago?
[10:08] <cbx33> and it's a "new" product - i think it's a little poor that it's so slow
[10:08] <indus> ShawnRisk: no? why
[10:08] <cbx33> maco i said notebook :p
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: ok run: lsusb     one line will identify the device and you can search for guides using the 8 didgit hex ID
[10:08] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: Sounds like you should hate your graphics drivers
[10:08] <__machine> libapache2-mod-wsgi seems to be missing from my hardy install? aptitude search wsgi yields only python2.5-wsgiref ... ?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: no as I play 3D games
[10:08] <maco> cbx33: right, so unr is aimed at netbooks....none of which are more than 2 yr old
[10:09] <cbx33> ok...nevermind....i give up
[10:09] <ShawnRisk> indus: I have two other computers connected and it shouldn't be anything but the linux machine
[10:09] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: compiz reveals many bugs in graphics drivers that may not be demonstrated by other 3D apps
[10:09] <indus> ShawnRisk: yeah i believe you
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: if i minimise something I want it to be gone, instantly, not do some pointless animation. stuff like that, when i switch desktops its instantaneous, I dont want to see the edge of a cube go past my screen. it achieves zero except to slow the operation down
[10:09] <HolySnapBatman> i have a partition that got deleted (ntfs) when trying to resize it due to power loss. now the space where the partition was is unallocated space. instead of going through the legthy process of rescuing and copying the files (over 100GB) is there a way i can just restore the partition? from what i can tell only the partition table was deleted and not the data
[10:09] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: must i copy and paste it for you?
[10:10] <indus> ShawnRisk:maybe its oyur laptop? the wireless on it?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: penumbra and frets on fire work perfectly, its all i need
[10:10] <Lxcc-Vincenzo> anyone know how to see/modify/convert jpeg2000 files?
[10:10] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: You probably use proprietary graphics drivers. Am I right?
[10:10] <indus> windows and mac are diff machines isnt it ?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: nvidia all the way
[10:10] <cbx33> It is this bug:
[10:10] <cbx33> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/349314/
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: yes, use pastebin. copy the text to the bin, hit paste, when the page changes copy the new address in the address bar and paste it here
[10:10] <cbx33> It is painfully slow. But, if you install the kernel mentioned in there, it will be nice and fast again. The problem is bad Intel drivers not supporting something that is needed in the launcher.
[10:10] <indus> windows and mac are diff machines isnt it ? ShawnRisk ? or you dual boot
[10:10] <FloodBot5> cbx33: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <ShawnRisk> indus: I used windows on there before and it worked but was disconnecting often.  no dual boot
[10:10] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: Yea, you are just confused. It is ok, a lot of people are confused and think nvidia is the only graphics card
[10:11] <bsusa> hello all
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: no i dont at all, i just use it due to awesome support in linux
[10:11] <indus> ShawnRisk: hmm was disconnecting often, maybe a hardware issue?
[10:11] <ShawnRisk> indus: oh
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: i only use what works amazingly. i only but from the hcl. I have had an awesome experience with nvidia so its all i buy
[10:11] <bsusa> could someone please assist me on how to caibrate a touchscreen in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:11] <indus> ShawnRisk: :)
[10:11] <schwezzy> ActionParsnip1: yeah amd is a real pain
[10:12] <schwezzy> ActionParsnip1: err ati
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: don't patronise me like that
[10:12] <ShawnRisk> indus: what to do?
[10:12] <indus> ShawnRisk: do one thing, try a windows dual boot on this laptop and see if it connects. if no then its a laptop issue with wireless switch
[10:12] <aaron11> Do you guys know if Alien Arena game will work on my computer? I tried Freedoom but it crashes after a period of time for some reason. Even Kiki The Nano bot, when I reach the level where you have to pass dumb nanobots it crashes.
[10:12] <indus> ShawnRisk: it has a slider for wifi ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: are you one of these "boohoo the drivers arent open" people?
[10:13] <indus> off topic shh
[10:13] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1:  I know 8 digit hex id ....now what?
[10:13] <cWex_iMutZz> aq bth tman
[10:13] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: to be totally honest i dont know what pastebin or where it is and how to get it
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: run: lsusb   in a terminal, one of the lines will identify the device
[10:13] <seravitae> Anyone know what package contains 'strace'? or how i mgiht find out?
[10:13] <indus> CHESLYN: paste.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: http://pastebi.com
[10:13] <ShawnRisk> indus: it connects in windows but was disconnecting on and off, but windows is gone
[10:14] <indus> !paste | CHESLYN
[10:14] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: No, Im mostly a taunter that nvidia sucks kinda guy ;)
[10:14] <indus> ShawnRisk: yea that means the wireless is faulty in it
[10:14] <AmbrNewlearner> ActionParsnip1: , yes, I see that line....no what should I do?
[10:14] <indus> ShawnRisk: why should it disconnect otherwise
[10:14] <dustybunny1> Hello
[10:14] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: they have worked flawlessly even when i had my TNT2 Ultra 32mb under mandrake. Works for me, if you wanna use other stuff thats cool too
[10:14] <GamerKnight> anyone know much about GPT/MBR in here???
[10:14] <frogzoo> seravitae: would you believe... strace?
[10:14] <indus> ShawnRisk: the only way to findout is if other laptops catch it fine
[10:14] <seravitae> lol frogzoo yeah i just checked *facepalm*
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> AmbrNewlearner: copy the 8 didgit hex id and search it in a web searchengine
[10:15] <seravitae> i just expected it to be some small tool in some larger package.
[10:15] <HolySnapBatman> is there anyway to just restore a deleted ntfs partition instead of using ddrescue and having to copy all the files? i have over 150GB of files and would rather not have to copy them if i can just restore the partition
[10:15] <frogzoo> seravitae: apt-cache search blah - in future
[10:15] <ShawnRisk> indus: oh
[10:15] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: I have an nvidia, intel and ati box. ati wins.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: visit the page, paste the text, write your name, click paste. The page will change. Copy the contents of the address bar and paste them here
[10:15] <indus> ShawnRisk: yeah the other laptops if you can load ubuntu and check
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: for you yes, for me nvidia is great. Thats why both companys exist
[10:16] <indus> ShawnRisk: it will point to a hardware issue (minor issue probably) with this laptop
[10:16] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: i am un sure these days
[10:16] <indus> soreau: why ati wins?
[10:16] <indus> soreau: AMD rather
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> GamerKnight: its all individual taste like anything, even OSes, cars, drinks, food, music
[10:17] <soreau> indus: For a lot of reasons but mostly because nvidia loses by default
[10:17] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: i think amd will come out with some nice stuff next year. with the whole ati merge thing. there boards, there processors, there graphics GPUs. lets face it GPUs have been advancing alot faster than CPU in the past 10 years
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> soreau: GamerKnight: loads of stuff, just use what you like and let the other people use what they like, it doesnt affect you in any way what other folks choose to use or not use so let them get on with it
[10:17] <ShawnRisk> indus: if you feel that is the way
[10:18] <schwezzy> dual core gpu's
[10:18] <schwezzy> that would be so cool
[10:18] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: Just look at how well Nvidia mother boards work with nvidta grphics cards
[10:18] <indus> soreau: loses by default? which default
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> GamerKnight: i dont pay attention to it. I know both exist and know what will run the stuff i need for cheapest, so i go for that
[10:18] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: yer cheep is good
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> GamerKnight: the nvidia ion is nice though
[10:18] <zebastian> OK JUST GOT UBUNTU WHAT APP CAN I USE TO RECORD MP3S
[10:18] <GamerKnight> ActionParsnip1: yer it is
[10:18] <zebastian> caps*
[10:18] <indus> GamerKnight: i have an amd 690 chipset which works great with my nvidia 7600 gt
[10:19] <zebastian> sorry about that
[10:19] <soreau> ! caps | zebastian
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: sound recorder
[10:19] <GamerKnight> indus: i heard that 7600 had major hardware problems or was that the 8000 series
[10:19] <soreau> GamerKnight: Both. Nvidia sucks.
[10:19] <indus> GamerKnight: major? those 2 are blockbuster cards
[10:19] <GamerKnight> indus: i had to get my replaced cus my 8000 screwed up. but i got  a new 9000 out of it
[10:19] <zebastian> ActionParsnip1: sudo aptitude install sound recorder?
[10:20] <ubuntu_> hiho
[10:20] <indus> GamerKnight: thats yur specific issue , many diff manufacturers
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: its part of a standard install, look under sound and video
[10:20] <ShawnRisk> indus: thanks for the help
[10:20] <indus> ShawnRisk: welcome
[10:20] <GamerKnight> soreau: they both have pro and cons, nvidia works better with the unread engine and can do better lighting effects
[10:20] <indus> anyways way off topic
[10:20] <GamerKnight> soreau: unreal engine
[10:20] <ubuntu_> any1 around knowing how to solve this bug here except using the alternate-cd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305858
[10:20] <ubuntu_> ?
[10:20] <GamerKnight> ubuntu_: bug???
[10:21] <ubuntu_> yepp
[10:21] <grub2-from-hell> someone have hints how to get help installing grub2 on GPT partitions? at least i have some cause to attribute my troubles to non-DOS style partitioning scheme
[10:21] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip1: k
[10:21] <GamerKnight> soreau: also nvidia in the past have run better on linux, not on all systems but on the majority. its changing these days though
[10:21] <GamerKnight> soreau: more driver support and faster releases from what i have seen
[10:22] <grub2-from-hell> went to the grub2 home site/help area and elsewhere, docs at home are atrocious
[10:22] <GamerKnight> indus: what system u running?
[10:22] <soreau> GamerKnight: Yea, the graphics driver seen is changing drastically
[10:22] <soreau> scene
[10:22] <theadmin> !info tzdata
[10:22] <zebastian> ActionParsnip1: lots of hiss
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: huh?
[10:23] <grub2-from-hell> !info grub2
[10:23] <zebastian> what is that due to
[10:23] <zebastian> the great amount of hiss
[10:23] <zebastian> usually
[10:23] <GamerKnight> soreau: to be honest i think amd/ati will win. just becuase of they can do combo arcatecture and everything will sync nicly
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> zebastian: turn the recording volume down
 ubuntu_: bug???
[10:23] <ubuntu_> will there be anything else?
[10:24] <soreau> GamerKnight: In my book, they already have. It is only a matter of time now.
[10:24] <schwezzy> GamerKnight: absolutely, if only they would have better legacy support
[10:24] <soreau> GamerKnight: Plus its the best driver support you will find on irc out of the three valid graphics vendors
[10:26] <GamerKnight> soreau: really never really needed any driver support. but i am sure i will now i just said that
[10:26] <ssta> anyone know if the mysql-server-5.1 packages in karmic have ndb build in?
[10:26] <Draconis> so heard someone chatting up enlightenment and decided to give it a whirl.. its pretty good. Anyone have any other recommendations? Also I am tryng to figure out how to assign a hot key to run a terminal window. I can't seem to find it in the key bindings like GNOME has
[10:26] <pendlaren> Hi folks, how do I know which graphics driver is used when there are no Driver in xorg.conf?
[10:26] <maco> pendlaren: whatever X autodetects is correct
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> Draconis: lxde is my personal recommendation
[10:26] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: yer legacy stuff never seems to get supported in this capatistic world :(, they just want your new money
[10:26] <soreau> pendlaren: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> Draconis: for the keybinding, not sure
[10:27] <Draconis> thanks I'll give it a look
[10:27] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: upgrade it much better. i liked the one i had thank you. thays  why i brought it
[10:27] <Draconis> thank you ActionParsnip1
[10:27] <arand> grub2-from-hell: Might this be relevant<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and/or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7557255
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> Draconis: could ask in #elightenment
[10:28] <ubuntu_> so no solution here?
[10:28] <ubuntu_> except for using the alternate cd?
[10:28] <ssta> s/n too high
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> CHESLYN: have you got the link?
[10:29] <ubuntu__> HI
[10:29] <ubuntu__> hey how to reload grub?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> !grub
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2
[10:29] <indus> GamerKnight: old , x2 4400 7600 gt
[10:29] <schwezzy> GamerKnight: it's not even like the hardware I have is that old.. it's just that after gusty I have no more 3d acceleration :(
[10:30] <indus> GamerKnight: will buy athlon2 x3 435 and 4770 probably
[10:30] <soreau> schwezzy: Which card do you have?
[10:30] <SoMerda> t
[10:30] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: what card do u have
[10:30] <grub2-from-hell> arand: those could relate, haven't read them too deeply so far
[10:30] <danielle> is there a nother program like aptoncd thet you can use to burn .debs on dvd
[10:30] <GamerKnight> schwezzy: join  #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <GamerKnight> indus: join  #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> danielle: you can just burn the debs from /var/cache/apt/archive
[10:32] <danielle> i have 30gb of them and apt on cd crashes and when you just burn debs on disk synaptic can nor read disk says it is invalid
[10:32] <ubuntu_> gee
[10:32] <ubuntu_> i found a solution
[10:33] <ubuntu_> any1 around having an account on this website here? => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305858
[10:33] <q0_0p> anyone know why i get this error?
[10:33] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:33] <ubuntu_> if so, please tell me so that you can post the solution here
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> danielle: if you copy the debs to the destination computer in the same location you can use them to install with
[10:34] <bsusa> could someone please assist me on how to caibrate a touchscreen in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:34] <pendlaren> soreau: thanks, seems like it's loading several drivers/modules there...
[10:35] <pendlaren> maco: Thanks, I'm trying to get compiz working in 9.10, as it did in 9.04
[10:35] <schwezzy> GamerKnight: soreau: ati Xpress 1150 on my laptop and a Radeon 9800 on desktop
[10:35] <soreau> pendlaren: The one that is listed many times over in all CAPS is the one it is using
[10:35] <pendlaren> soreau: ok, RADEON, then
[10:35] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: any other ideas?
[10:35] <soreau> schwezzy: And neither are working for 3D? Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the problem session
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: about what?
[10:36] <soreau> pendlaren: Yup, it is using the open radeon driver
[10:36] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: my problem
[10:36] <pendlaren> soreau: Problem is that compiz will not work in 9.10, but it did very well in 9.04 (ATI Radeon X1400)
[10:36] <soreau> ! work | pendlaren
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: well i gathered you had a problem, can you please remind me was what I was after
[10:37] <GamerKnight> OWWW! is says do not push!!
[10:37] <pendlaren> soreau: sorry... it seems to lock X when I move windows, go to the corner to see all open windows etc
[10:37] <soreau> pendlaren: Which card and ubuntu version is this on?
[10:38] <pendlaren> soreau: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[10:38] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: I am trying to connect to wireless internet and this isn't working.  All it does is send me back to the Wireless Network Authentication box after I connect.
[10:38] <soreau> pendlaren: Can you try booting with radeon.modeset=1 as a kernel parameter?
[10:38] <pendlaren> soreau: Just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[10:39] <theadmin> What on earth? It tries to open FTP bookmarks with firefox.
[10:39] <soreau> pendlaren: This should enable KMS which will in turn enable DRI2
[10:39] <indus> soreau: iam planning on amd card , is driver good enough now
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: does it happen as another user?
[10:39] <pendlaren> soreau: Sure, will try at once
[10:39] <schwezzy> soreau: the whole thing?
[10:39] <soreau> indus: Yes, definitely. By Lucid release, we should have full GL2.1 support I expect
[10:39] <soreau> schwezzy: Yes
[10:39] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: only one this linux box but when I tried in windows it was disconnecting often
[10:39] <soreau> ! paste | schwezzy
[10:40] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:40] <schwezzy> !pastebinit
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: then make another, you can have multiple users on the Ubuntu system
[10:40] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: only one
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: make a new user
[10:41] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:41] <myfundi> I ahve a pcline pcl300n how do I get it to work in 8.1
[10:42] <myfundi> sorry webcam pcline pcl300n
[10:42] <DjAngo23> Is there a software like Dragon Naturally speaking for Linux ? It is, a voice command program
[10:42] <soreau> ! webcam | myfundi
[10:42] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: are you sure that will help?
[10:42] <myfundi> thanks mate
[10:42] <soreau> DjAngo23: That is a good question. If you find one, let me know ;)
[10:43] <DjAngo23> soreau: I will ;)
[10:43] <DjAngo23> I ssaw voice command (native ubuntu function, but no documentation a all..
[10:43] <Krambiorix> can somebody help me:  i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: if the new user is ok then it is a bad setting in your current user some place. If the dialogue goes away as normal then the system is fine and your current user settings are bad somewhere
[10:43] <soreau> Krambiorix: Are you running that in an X session?
[10:44] <soreau> Krambiorix: Or from ssh?
[10:44] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: oh
[10:44] <schwezzy> soreau: http://pastebin.com/f68518cb9
[10:44] <Krambiorix> soreau , in a terminal local
[10:44] <ubuntu_> anyone around having an account on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:44] <theadmin> ubuntu_: Me, for instance, why?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: if the same happens with the new user with clean vanilla settings then you have found a bug as the setting is not isolated to your one user
[10:45] <soreau> schwezzy: That is not right, incomplete log
[10:45] <ubuntu_>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305858
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: its called isolating the issue to see where things go wrong and go right so you can narrow down the possibilities until you know what is wrong
[10:45] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: can't we try to work with one user?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> i want someone to post a reply with a "bugfix" there
[10:45] <soreau> schwezzy: If you have curl installed, you can use this command to paste it:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:45] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:46] <schwezzy> soreau: does apt-get curl work?
[10:46] <virl> hi, does anybody in here uses mono_mod on his apache webserver? and does it work there with mass virtual hosts?
[10:46] <soreau> schwezzy: sudo apt-get install curl
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: if your profile is bad, no matter how many times you try you will always fail, you need to see if its settings or system which are bad
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: new users are free you know and they can be deleted once used
[10:47] <Samuli^> is there any racing (simulation preferably) games for linux? Wrong place to ask?
[10:47] <frogzoo1> Samuli^: tux racer?
[10:47] <schwezzy> soreau: http://sprunge.us/YIJJ
[10:47] <Samuli^> frogzoo1, lol
[10:47] <m4rtin> Samuli^: TORCS (http://torcs.sourceforge.net/)
[10:48] <pendlaren> soreau: booted with radeon.modeset=1 as kernel param, and things seemed normal, except some noise that was "scrolled down" by the desktop background. When I clicked the "Visual effects" tab of System - Prefs - Appearance, colors faded and computer locked completely. Not able to switch to console or anything.
[10:48] <Krambiorix> soreau , can you help me?
[10:48] <ShawnRisk> ActionParsnip1: I didn't create the user it is the first one made by installation
[10:48] <utrrrongeeb> Samuli^: Vdrift
[10:48] <Samuli^> thanks m4rtin, I'll look it up
[10:48] <utrrrongeeb> Samuli^: But I find SuperTuxKart to be the most fun.
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: yes I know, but you can add more
[10:49] <ShawnRisk> ok
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> ShawnRisk: under administration you can add users there
[10:49] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:49] <porkpie> guy's how do I tell what version of ubuntu I am running
[10:49] <soreau> schwezzy: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> porkpie: lsb_release -a
[10:49] <q0_0p> porkpie, uname -a
[10:49] <soreau> pendlaren: Sorry, that was my only idea
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> q0_0p: ubuntu, not linux ;)
[10:49] <m4rtin> q0_0p: that will only show the kernel
[10:49] <ubuntu_> <:
[10:49] <q0_0p> distro?
[10:49] <ubuntu_> cat /etc/lsb_release
[10:49] <pendlaren> porkpie: lsb_release -rc
[10:49] <EXp1r3d> Samuli^, http://www.palomino3d.org/
[10:50] <pendlaren> soreau: OK, thanks, anyway.
[10:50] <m4rtin> soreau: alternatively, have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list and see what is listed (jaunty/karmic etc.)
[10:50] <schwezzy> soreau: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RS400 5974) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 NO-TCL
[10:50] <Samuli^> cool, I didn't know there were so many O.o
[10:50] <ubuntu_> oh, i was wrong
[10:50] <porkpie> guy's I am running edgy  ... :(  what the upgrade steps
[10:50] <q0_0p> anyone here knows y i get this error?
[10:50] <ubuntu_> the file is acutally called lsb-release
[10:50] <q0_0p> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:50] <ubuntu_> so
[10:50] <ubuntu_> cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:51] <soreau> schwezzy: What happens when you try setting something other than None in Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects?
[10:51] <ubuntu_> porkpie, do a full reinstall
[10:51] <Krambiorix> can somebody help me:  i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:51] <ubuntu_> save your settings first
[10:51] <porkpie> ubuntu_: I can't
[10:51] <porkpie> it's running a radius server
[10:51] <pendlaren> soreau: Any way to find out if I used another driver on 9.04? :-/
[10:51] <ubuntu_> which means?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> egdy is 6.10, isnt it?
[10:52] <porkpie> ubuntu_: I don't want to reconfigure it
[10:52] <porkpie> yeah 6.10
[10:52] <schwezzy> soreau: do i have to restart after changing that setting? it didn't seem to do anything
[10:52] <arand> ubuntu_: Is this relevant (-> try removing dmraid in the livecd)?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/459054
[10:52] <ubuntu_> porkpie, save your settings away and apply them afterwards
[10:52] <ubuntu_> arand, it is!
[10:53] <ubuntu_> and sudo apt-get remove dmraid solved the problem
[10:53] <soreau> pendlaren: There have been a lot of changes in the open drivers both in kernel and user components. You are sorta in limbo because fglrx no longer supports your card. What you can do though is update your drivers with the xorg-edgers repo iirc
[10:53] <pendlaren> porkpie: keep your radius server on other partition(s) than your system
[10:53] <ubuntu_> so i wanted someone to post it on ubuntuforums.org as it was the first post to appear on my google search of the problem
[10:53] <soreau> schwezzy: If you set it to Extra without error, that means your 3D is working ok and compiz is working
[10:54] <Krambiorix> nobody ???  i get an error when i try to  gedit [file] -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[10:54] <q0_0p> schwezzy, now apt-get install simple-ccsm
[10:54] <pendlaren> soreau: I see, I'll try xorg-edgers - already added them to my repository, but wanted to check which driver I was currently running first :) thanks for your time!!
[10:54] <soreau> Krambiorix: I asked you from where you are running this command. You said from local. I meant are you running it from X or ssh
[10:55] <arand> ubuntu_: ah, ok, I'll do that, no prob, just a pointer to the bug report and hint to remove the package.
[10:55] <Krambiorix> soreau : just from a terminal window
[10:55] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: You're launching it from Xorg (the desktop), from a Terminal window, or are you at a VT?
[10:55] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb : terminal window
[10:55] <schwezzy> soreau: oh i meant 3d for games, they never seem to work
[10:55] <schwezzy> q0_0p: thanks, what's this?
[10:55] <soreau> Krambiorix: Terminal is subjective. You can run it from a tty terminal, ssh terminal, X terminal etc
[10:56] <ubuntu_> arand, ye, i am here using the xubuntu 9.10 live-cd and a simple `sudo apt-get remove` dmraid solved the problem. alt+f2 => xterm ftw, but it should be removable via synaptic, too
[10:56] <soreau> schwezzy: What's wrong with what 3D game?
[10:56] <Krambiorix> soreau : X Terminal from my desktop
[10:56] <q0_0p> schwezzy, 3d desktop
[10:56] <soreau> Krambiorix: Then I don't know what's wrong. Try a new terminal? otherwise something is screwed up on your system
[10:56] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: what results does 'echo $DISPLAY' give?
[10:57] <schwezzy> soreau: i don't have anything specific offhand, i haven't messed with it in quite a long time, I'll try and install a 3d game from the repos and report back
[10:57] <soreau> utrrrongeeb: It will likely say 0.0
[10:57] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: Normally it should return ":0.0".
[10:57] <soreau> schwezzy: Should be working AFAICT
[10:57] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: localhost:0.0
[10:57] <q0_0p> mine shows :0
[10:57] <soreau> Krambiorix: Try DISPLAY=:0 gedit blah blah
[10:58] <FANDER> !ruby
[10:59] <Krambiorix> soreau : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[10:59] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: How about 'DISPLAY=:0.0'?
[11:00] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb ,soreau  : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[11:00] <schwezzy> soreau: would you think tf2 through wine would be doable?
[11:01] <schwezzy> this hardware runs it on windows
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> !appdb | schwezzy
[11:01] <soreau> schwezzy: I have no idea. Did you say you're 9.04 or 9.10?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> schwezzy: windows has all the stuff the game has been coded to use, Linux doesnt
[11:01] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: In the terminal, who are you logged in as? Are you using sudo?
[11:01] <schwezzy> ActionParsnip1: I know it runs through wine, talking about hardware
[11:02] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb :as root
[11:02] <schwezzy> soreau: 9.10
[11:02] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: Does it work from your account?
[11:03] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, is there any software like FlashGet, rapidshareplus and IDM for Ubuntu?
[11:03] <soreau> schwezzy: Then it should work. If you want to try DRI2, you can add radeon.modeset=1 to your kernel parameters
[11:03] <ubuntu_> isolat3dsh33p, jdownloader
[11:04] <ActionParsnip1> schwezzy: The abstraction in wine abstracts the hardware too so may be slower
[11:04] <isolat3dsh33p> k thx :D
[11:04] <schwezzy> soreau: awesome, thanks.. funny i never expected to fix this i just sort of accepted it as it was
[11:05] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: yes it works with my account
[11:05] <soreau> schwezzy: The open radeon drivers are getting better too so be expecting more out of your card in the future
[11:07] <ubuntu_> k, guys, thx for your help
[11:07] <ubuntu_> rebooting into 9.10
[11:07] <arand> ubuntu_: posted "fix" looks ok?
[11:07] <ubuntu_> hm
[11:08] <ubuntu_> url?
[11:08] <ubuntu_> <:
[11:08] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: From your account, what does $ echo $DISPLAY return?
[11:08] <arand> ubuntu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8412736
[11:09] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: :0.0
[11:09] <ubuntu_> ye arand
[11:09] <ubuntu_> thx for your effort, rebooting into 9.10 now
[11:09] <ubuntu_> l8r
[11:09] <arand> ubuntu_: goodies bye
[11:09] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: So, setting DISPLAY to ":0.0" in the root session still doesn't work?
[11:10] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: still doesn't work
[11:11] <huwenfeng> hi, how can i create a tun interface in Ubuntu8.04???
[11:11] <ritesh> hey guys , what can i use for remote dekstop to connect to?
[11:12] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: I'm out of ideas -- not running Linux this minute, so I can't try it -- if no-one else helps, there might be a command-line flag to gedit which lets you specify the display to use...
[11:12] <Krambiorix> hmmm
[11:12] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: gedit --help, maybe info gedit
[11:14] <soreau> utrrrongeeb: using --display is the same as setting DISPLAY env var. His system is not happy
[11:15] <e77e0> nice
[11:16] <decora> 1354 people and nobody talking
[11:16] <e77e0> XD
[11:16] <e77e0> so strange!
[11:16] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: thx for your help
[11:16] <decora> maybe they are all robots
[11:17] <utrrrongeeb> Is it safe to hibernate under Wubi?
[11:17] <e77e0> possible!
[11:17] <utrrrongeeb> Krambiorix: You're welcome / sorry it isn't fixed.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> e77e0: No, it's just that 9.10 includes empathy by default, and that uses telepathy
[11:17] <Krambiorix> utrrrongeeb: yeah it's weird that it works for my normal user
[11:18] <Jordan_U> e77e0: So we are all just communicating with talepathy and you have to use this legacy "text" based system with your legacy IRC client
[11:18] <e77e0> ubuntu has a lot of fan
[11:19] <soreau> Jordan_U: heh
[11:19] <theadmin> utrrrongeeb: it won't hibernate with Wubi at all.
[11:20] <joedulin> can anyone tell me how to force ubuntu to display 1024x768 on a netbook?
[11:21] <baalsgate> any one here farmilur with how i might stop sendmail from being an open relay when using port forwarding 25 on a NAT ?
[11:21] <theadmin> joedulin: It's not appearing in the list?
[11:22] <utrrrongeeb> theadmin: What if I disable Wubi swap and use an SD card as swap?
[11:22] <theadmin> utrrrongeeb: I'm not sure how it works, but it's stated on WUBI's page that it's impossible to hibernate with it.
[11:22] <joedulin> theadmin: netbook, only goes up to 1024x600
[11:23] <huwenfeng> how can i create a tun interface in ubuntu 8.04?
[11:23] <theadmin> joedulin: Try to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually. !!!BACKUP FIRST!!!
[11:24] <utrrrongeeb> theadmin: I thought I saw somewhere that it could cause host hard disk corruption, so I wondered about taking the host disk out of the picture....
[11:24] <myfundi> any idea on how to upgrade open office to 3.0 on ubuntu 8.1
[11:24] <joedulin> theadmin, could you give me something to look for in it? (if not, that's fine. i'm sure it's in a million forums)
[11:24] <myfundi> added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main to my sources.list
[11:24] <theadmin> joedulin: Lemme get a look of it first myself
[11:24] <myfundi> did an apt-get update
[11:24] <joedulin> theadmin, thanks, appreciate it
[11:25] <theadmin> myfundi: Good. Now apt-get install openoffice, I guess.
[11:25] <Guest68766> hey does anyone know were i can get the hash file to verify the amd64 9.10 cd????
[11:25]  * alankila wonders why his karmic insists on force-feeding US keyboard layout every botup despite I tdo my best to change it to Finnish keyboard.
[11:26] <mka> Guest68766: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[11:26] <Guest68766> thank you
[11:26] <theadmin> Guest68766: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
[11:26] <theadmin> joedulin: uh. It's a mess. Read "man xorg.conf", maybe it'll make sense.
[11:27] <decora> guest try google sha 9.10
[11:27] <alankila> and I'd love it if ath9k driver didn't cut my network connection once every 5 minutes to about 5 hours, hard to say but it cut off connection 3 times today and it's hardly past noon yet.
[11:27] <joedulin> theadmin, yeah, i figured it would be which is why i asked. oh well, time to go play
[11:27] <decora> alankila: how are you setting your layout?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: log a bug
[11:28] <alankila> I use the gnome keyboard features. And I wrote it into /etc/default/console-setup as well
[11:28] <joedulin> alankila, i used to have that problem until i upgraded to 9.10. seems to be working fine now
[11:28] <alankila> but it tends to keep on coming up with USA despite I try apply it for myself and setting it system-wide
[11:28] <alankila> it's right at bootup, it's just GNOME that messes it up
[11:29] <decora> alankila: system preferences keyboards layouts? which layout are you using? are there any messages in your logfiles about layout problems?
[11:29] <alankila> decora: no messages that I can see, and I'm using Finnish. It works, but I have to set it manually at every bootup
[11:30] <decora> there are 4 finnish variants... which one?
[11:30] <alankila> who knows? The default one?
[11:30] <alankila> I've never touched the layout options
[11:30] <_du> Hi All. I've a problem described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xterm/+bug/355883 for xterm+bash. Could somebody suggest any w/a for this?
[11:30] <decora> when you add the layout to your layouts, and you click 'finnish' language, it lists 4 variants... you had to click on one of them
[11:30] <decora> alankila: you just told me you set the layout using the gnome tools
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: try looking in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard maybe
[11:31] <_du> I'm no familiar with readlines scan codes, so i can't do this myself :(
[11:31] <alankila> ActionParsnip1: no such file, perhaps you are red hat user?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: not sure, jeeves suggested it
[11:31] <_du> In short, the problem is Ctrl-left/right_narrow produces 3D and 3C sequences only
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html
[11:32] <decora> alankila: if you go into keyboard preferences / layouts  and look there, it should list finnish... what does it list on yours?
[11:32] <alankila> decora: it lists finnish and USA when I boot up
[11:33] <alankila> the problem is that USA is selected by default, and I have to do something random like delete the USA option before I get Finnish layout
[11:33] <decora> ohh.. hmm
[11:34] <decora> lemme try something brb
[11:34] <alankila> I used to have the same problem on my laptop as well but some gnome update fixed it, I guess, the problem is that this keeps on going wrong on my main system. Though it doesn't happen at every bootup. Last time when I modified the settings in /etc/default/console-setup it worked right afterwards for like a month... but some apt-get updaete && dist-upgrade recently must have broken it again
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907470&postcount=4
[11:35] <alankila> because this is the 3rd time in sequence that I boot up and instead of ä and ö I se ; and :
[11:35] <rewati> hi i am a photographer and i use photoshop for editing i m using dual boot to use photoshop on windows its kinda anoying for me can any body tell me alternative of photoshop
[11:35] <rewati> ??
[11:35] <Rabbitbu1ny2> I'm trying to have a box auto-login to a getty (tty1) and start a process in that getty (screen) so that I can watch it in my peripheral vision on the physical monitor. I don't want it to start the process each time that user logs in as I ssh to the box constantly. Google keeps telling me to edit inittab. That doesn't exist. 6.10, no X. Hints?
[11:35] <Rabbitbu1ny2> rewati: Gimp
[11:36] <alankila> ActionParsnip1: yes, this is not the problem. The problem is x, not console. I might have been clearer about the issue. It works just fine in console, it's always just X & gnome that gets it wrong
[11:36] <enzo_> ciao a tutti
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: gimp, gimpshot, tuxpaint ;). Some versions of photoshop run ok via wine
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: you'd have expected gnome to follow the terminal, weird
[11:36] <alankila> I suspect the gnome keyboard configuration utility is somehow buggy, maybe it's confused by some older gconf keys or something. I've half in mind to rm -rf the entire gnome settings database and start over with it, perhaps it helps, perhaps not
[11:37] <decora> alankila: hi.. have you tried using the 'keyboard indicator' program on the gnome panel?
[11:37] <rewati> ActionParsnip1 can tuxpaint edit raw format ??
[11:37] <phaidros> i am looking for a config option to spin down hdd, noflushd is more or less deprecated on ubuntu, laptop-mode-tools are configured to work only on battery. I know hdparm ist the tool, but is there an agent/service utilizing hdparm which to configure would make most sense?
[11:37] <alankila> no, I usually remove such things. I don't want to switch layouts
[11:37] <decora> alankila: ohh you want all finnish all the time?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: dude tuxpaint is for kids, the tools make cute noises when you use them
[11:38] <alankila> decora: indeed I do.
[11:38] <nickzxcv> so there is no xen support for amd64 in 8.04 LTS right?
[11:39] <alankila> but maybe the layout switcher can "remember" that I want Finnish layout even if the gnome keyboard settings somehow thinks I don't, so maybe just having that running fixes my problems. I guess I'll know next time I reboot.
[11:39] <rewati> ActionParsnip1 ok
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: have a look in gconf-editor   maybe its there
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> !appdb |rewati
[11:39] <rewati> ActionParsnip1 is there something except gimp for professional level
[11:39] <phaidros> how to silence hdd?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: gimpshop (gimp with a different gui), its not something i do
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> !graphics
[11:41] <frogzoo3> network-manager crashes when I select a wifi connection *cry*
[11:41] <ShawnRisk> still no luck
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> rewati: may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicsApplications
[11:42] <alankila> the gconfd data seems simple... layouts = [fi], variants empty ... I sure wish I knew why it decides to forcibly add USA to my list at every boot, apparently. And defaults to that to boot.
[11:42] <indus> rewati: blender for 3d modelling
[11:42] <decora> alankila: only thing i know to do is bugs.ubuntu.com and file against uhm... xkeyboard-config package
[11:42] <ct529> hi! Does anyone know how to extract one single file from a tarred bzip2'd archive?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: you can add a script for log on to set that variable once you log on
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: bit hacky but will work
[11:43] <jiga123123> hello people! my question: if Lucid is already available, why not download it? is the image on the official website bad or something?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> jiga123123: its very buggy
[11:43] <Flannel> jiga123123: Lucid is pre-alpha software
[11:43] <indus> jiga123123: its in alpha status
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> jiga123123: you can use it if you want to log lots of bugs
[11:43] <frogzoo3> jiga123123: alpha != available
[11:43] <alankila> ActionParsnip1: that could work, but I am unable to accept hacks.
[11:44] <indus> jiga123123: not even in alpha as Flannel said
[11:44] <decora> ct529 man tar look at --files-from
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: you may have to if no fix is forthcoming
[11:44] <indus> jiga123123: only for testing on a spare system
[11:44] <indus> is it correct lucid is LTS?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> indus: yes
[11:44] <jiga123123> yes
[11:44] <indus> wooh
[11:44] <indus> good
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> !10.04
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> ooh +1 is back
[11:45] <indus> lol yeah
[11:45] <indus> nice
[11:45] <jiga123123> so they plan to make a beta and then repair all the bugs, and all before april?
[11:45] <indus> but i dont think ill take the jump so early
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: does it say US in gconf-editor on reboot?
[11:45] <alankila> Never mind. I was able to discover the problem.
[11:45] <decora> alankila: your X logs will say something about which keyboard layout it selects. if you could start X using strace -f you could track down which config files it is reading
[11:46] <alankila> GDM has a setting for keyboard layout, and that was USA. On the other hand, now that I try to log in again via GDM it just froze and never went into GNOME now that I changed that ... Let me say that frustration is mounting here.
[11:46] <ct529> decora: thanks .... the man page for tar is so long and complicated that I found the task hopeless .... :D
[11:46] <jiga123123> Flannel: from pre-alpha, to a release, all in 5 months?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: go for the hack, you know its goooood :D
[11:46] <alankila> this stuff seems buggier beyond belief
[11:46] <decora> ct-529 you gotta use the '/' key to search, and then type in a word like 'extract' to skim through it
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> alankila: log bugs, gets things fixed
[11:47] <Flannel> jiga123123: When you release every six months, yes.
[11:48] <alankila> there's no point because the rate of change on linux systems is such that more bugs are added than get fixed. This is what jamie zawinski called the adhd kid mentality of open source programming. :-/
[11:48] <nickkontos> hello, I don't have the network manager icon on my taskbar, does anyone can help me please?
[11:48] <Rabbitbunny> alankila: This is for support, not soap-boxing.
[11:48] <ct529> decora: orgh .... that only gets the name, the man page says .... I need to extract the file not just the name (I can extract the name with tar -tvjf | grep name)
[11:48] <Cale> I've uninstalled Pulseaudio (since it totally falls down on my sound configuration), and rebuilt gnome-applets and a couple other things to get the sound volume panel applet working with alsa again. However, despite the fact that the Keyboard Shortcuts control panel shows that my volume keys are bound to Volume mute/down/up, they seem unhooked (presumably because they're attached to pulseaudio apis somehow)
[11:49] <diddy> Does anybody know how to start the seahorse daemon?
[11:49] <Cale> Does anyone know what package I ought to rebuild to get back the behaviour in Jaunty/previous versions?
[11:49] <ct529> decora: solved! thanks sorry for bothering ....
[11:49] <decora> alankila: i am sure it is frustrating but a 'show stopper' bug like that will get attention if enough people complain
[11:49] <diddy> In Ubuntu 9.10 the searhose daemon is not started automatically. A bug? How do I start it?
[11:50] <alankila> Let me just do the win32 solution to my problem: reboot.
[11:50] <ardchoille> diddy: seahorse-agent
[11:50] <jiga123123> how to uninstall pulseaudio? whe i tried in 8.04, it said i'd need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop with that...
[11:50] <Cale> jiga123123: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package and doesn't have anything useful in it
[11:50] <hl_99> hey there, i would like to disable the C4 CPU state in ubuntu since the noise drives me crazy (im using a thinkpad T60)
[11:51] <sudheesh_> how to read mail from command line
[11:51] <Cale> jiga123123: (it just depends on other stuff)
[11:51] <dsample> I'm attempting to create an AMD64 Alternate USB Stick installer (from Windows), but the guide on actualreality.wordpress.com doesn't seem to work, it gives an error when it does 'scan hard drives for an installer ISO image'
[11:51] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to change input method to japanese?
[11:51] <Cale> jiga123123: You can uninstall pulseaudio, but if you're doing so in Karmic, be prepared for some headaches.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> sudheesh_: mutt is a fantastic email client
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: system -> admin -> keyboard
[11:52] <decora> ct529: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-extracting-specific-files/
[11:52] <ardchoille> diddy: You can add this line to /etc/X11/Xsession.options to run seahorse on login: use-ssh-agent
[11:52] <ardchoille> diddy: That's the way it's setup by default in Jaunty
[11:52] <dsample> The error message it gives is "Error while running 'modprobe -v yenta_socket'
[11:52] <jiga123123> Cale, i don't really want headaches, i want sound to work that is all... %/
[11:53] <mrjoe_> in karmic, does anyone know how i can change the resolution on my netbook (1024x600) to 1024x768?
[11:53] <ardchoille> diddy: Ignore that line, typo on my part, sorry
[11:53] <decora> isolat3dsh33p: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: system -> prefs -> display
[11:54] <Cale> jiga123123: In earlier versions of ubuntu, it's a good idea to remove pulseaudio. I've removed it in karmic, but it took about a day and a half of screwing around to work out that I have to rebuild a few packages from source with different flags to get things like the volume control to work properly.
[11:54] <decora> dsample: can you show me the exact webpage you are looking at
[11:54] <mrjoe_> ActionJacks_, it doesn't have an option for it
[11:54] <Cale> jiga123123: And I still don't have my volume keys working...
[11:54] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1, decora : thanks :D
[11:54] <ShawnRisk> I am going nuts
[11:55] <dsample> decora: http://actualreality.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/installing-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-with-a-usb-drive/
[11:55] <mrjoe_> oops, that was meant for ActionParsnip1
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: then you may have to define it in xorg.conf
[11:55] <diddy> ardchoille, ignore what line?
[11:56] <alankila> Okay, that fixed it. If I set the default to Finalnd, GDM at least has the decency to remember my choice. The reason I never noticed this before looking for it is that these controls for selecting keyboard and session do not appear until I select my user account at gdm main panel. At this point my eyes are focused on the panel and I never even noticed these options until I knew to look for them.
[11:56] <decora> dsample: and what are youd oing when you get that error message?
[11:56] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, /etc/X11/xorg.conf? cuz when i go to edit it there's nothing...
[11:56] <Faithful> I'm trying to get sftp server to work as part as ssh server. But when try to connect with sftp I get subsystem request failed... I have googled till the cows came home... but I still haven't figured it.
[11:56] <decora> alankila: i would file a user interface bug on that
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: yes, you need to find a skeleton file you can edit
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: or find out how you can generate one
[11:57] <dsample> decora: installer starts, I choose my language, keyboard layout, then it comes up with that error
[11:57] <alankila> decora: well, I'm not sure what the point is to complain. Some people obviously prefer the simplicity of not having too many controls. I just think, personally, that these controls are in the wrong place, too far away from the eyes. But then again, they're probably placed there for just this reason: to not distract the user.
[11:57] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, gah, so much work just to play a game.
[11:57] <dsample> decora: the dialog behind the error says "Detecting hardware to find hard drives"
[11:58] <alankila> it just took a long time for me to realize that GDM is probably feeding the wrong keyboard layout, but once such suspicion did occur to me then it was easy to check.
[11:58] <Faithful> is sftp supposed to be running as a service... because I don't see it.
[11:59] <rohdef> where can I find info on writing startup scripts (not the init scripts)
[11:59] <alankila> however, the real bug is having more than one way to muck with the keyboard. Either you set it at GDM or you set it from within GNOME. But having *both* options at the same time is annoying. :-/
[12:00] <decora> dsample: what make and model of laptop do you have
[12:00] <ardchoille> diddy: The seahorse daemon is seahorse-agent
[12:00] <dsample> decora: Lenovo W500
[12:00] <diddy> ardchoille, ok but how do I restart the service?
[12:01] <ardchoille> diddy: atl+f2, type seahorse-agent and run it
[12:01] <decora> dsample: what version of ubuntu you trying to install
[12:01] <dsample> decora: karmic
[12:02] <giovanni> #ubuntu -it
[12:02] <decora> dsample: does jaunty work?
[12:02] <giovanni> #join ubuntu -it
[12:03] <DJones> giovanni: Type "/join #ubuntu-it" without the quotes
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: yor call, i have an xorg.conf file I always use backed up so if i need to get my display back I can just copy it in and everything is ok :)
[12:03] <decora> dsample: do you have any pcmcia plugged into it?
[12:03] <dsample> decora: Haven't tried Jaunty (I only got the laptop this morning), do you think there would be more chance of it working with Jaunty?
[12:03] <alankila> ah, there are a lot of bugs in launchpad already about gdm and layout
[12:03] <dsample> decora: no pcmcia plugged in
[12:03] <nidelius> how can I change the number of rows each scroll step is? right now scrolls four lines in a scroll
[12:04] <noren> hi there how can i change my time zone from console
[12:04] <decora> dsample: it is the first thing i would try personally.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> nidelius: its in mouse settings i believe
[12:04] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, hmm... this could be scary, but sure I guess. worst case scenario i'd just have to delete it, right?
[12:04] <giovanni> hi
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: sure, or rename so you can review the file
[12:04] <alankila> and the very bug I thought of adding is already in GDM Wishlist section. GDM is oblivious of user's preferred choice of keyboard, and that is the bug I thought I'll add.
[12:04] <decora> dsample: assuming the problem is really with modprobe yenta_socket
[12:05] <giovanni> i must change the password
[12:05] <schwezzy> is there a support channel for steam on ubuntu?
[12:05] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, yeah, guess that would be the more intelligent thing to do
[12:05] <giovanni> what is the comand for change?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: i can send you mine if you want, you can change it around a bit as you need
[12:05] <erUSUL> schwezzy: #winehq ?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: i can strip it out too if you like
[12:05] <erUSUL> !appdb | schwezzy
[12:05] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, yeah, that would be awesome<EMAIL_ADDRESS>would be good
[12:05] <julien__> francais ?
[12:05] <erUSUL> !fr | julien__
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: i'm gonna use pastebin
[12:06] <julien__> merci les rosbif
[12:06] <schwezzy> erUSUL: everytime I mention wine I get !apdb'd
[12:06] <dsample> decora: ok, I'll give it a try, thanks
[12:06] <schwezzy> thanks though
[12:06] <nidelius> ActionParsnip1: not as far as I can see, I have also checked the touchpad settings.. I'm now looking in to fdi files
[12:06] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, if you would don't strip, but it would be awesome if you'd put comments where you would strip it?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> anyone know the #room for empathy?
[12:07] <t4num0y> Hi guys..
[12:07] <noren> never mind i figured out !!
[12:07] <livingdaylight> is it on another server?
[12:07] <pietro_> si
[12:08] <t4num0y> i just installed ubuntu 9.10 today. now my question is how can i install openoffice from cdrom ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: thats the file as is: http://pastebin.com/m2ce5a0e9
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: you just need to change the driver to intel and define modes in the screen section
[12:08] <DJones> t4num0y: If you've done a normal install, openoffice will already be installed
[12:08] <duffydack> anyone in here running karmic with an ati and radeon free driver?
[12:08] <ct529> decora: thanks for the link
[12:08] <noren> t4num0y, add the cdrom in the repos
[12:08] <decora> ct529: cheers
[12:09] <hl_99> Does anyone know how to disable C4 CPU state in ubuntu?
[12:09] <t4num0y> DJones , unfortuanetly i remove it..
[12:09] <mrjoe_> ActionParsnip1, thanks much
[12:09] <t4num0y> noren , how can i do it ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> mrjoe_: np man, there are tonnes of guides for adding mode lines
[12:10] <nidelius> t4num0y: system -> administration -> software sources