[01:06] <hochimoo> when I am navigating around, firebug seems to be preventing the page from being displayed. I have to click on firebug or fiddle with it in some way for the page to be displayed
[01:38] <crazy_bus> I've got a ogg theora video which I'm trying to play in kaffeine.  But while the audio is fine the video is really jerky.  Why is this and how can I fix it?
[01:40] <JuJuBee> anybody ever use clonezilla?
[01:42] <dacorr> i would try xmms to see if it is jerky in all playes or just kafine
[01:42] <dacorr> if it is all then its the codecs, unless your playing from a cd
[01:45] <lounge-about> =/
[01:45] <lounge-about> anyone know anything about seting up an sql db?
[01:45] <crazy_bus> ogg theora is video.  So I don't think xmms plays it
[01:46] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: whats the problem?
[01:46] <lounge-about> heres the sittuation
[01:46] <lounge-about> ive setup my LAMP server
[01:46] <emilsedgh> go on lounge-about
[01:46] <lounge-about> and im trying to setup IPB forums as well
[01:47] <emilsedgh> and...
[01:47] <lounge-about> but when it ask for the sql info and stuff i dont have an answer for it
[01:47] <lounge-about> because i dont have a database made yet
[01:47] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: username is root (when you install it)
[01:47] <lounge-about> ...because i dont know how or what to use to make it
[01:47] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: password is nothing, leave it blank
[01:48] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: is it asking about database name?
[01:48] <lounge-about> ya
[01:48] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: so do this in kosnole
[01:49] <emilsedgh> mysql -u root
[01:49] <emilsedgh> CREATE DATABASE yourDatabaseName;
[01:49] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: then yourDatabaseName will the name of database :)
[01:49] <lounge-about> hmmk
[01:50] <lounge-about> and so when it ask to connect to it..
[01:50] <emilsedgh> localhost
[01:50] <lounge-about> this is everything its asking for:
[01:50] <lounge-about> SQL Host:localhost
[01:51] <lounge-about>   Database Name:
[01:51] <lounge-about>   SQL Username:
[01:51] <lounge-about>   SQL Password:
[01:51] <lounge-about>   SQL Table Prefix:ibf_
[01:51] <lounge-about>   MySQL Table Type
[01:51] <lounge-about> Use MyISAM if
[01:51] <lounge-about> ok
[01:51] <jussi01> !enter
[01:51] <Ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:51] <jussi01> and
[01:51] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: i told you about Host, Database Name, username and password, do not touch the others
[01:51] <jussi01> !paste
[01:51] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <lounge-about> ok, let me try this and see what happens
[01:55] <lounge-about> once i do the CREATE DATABASE dbname
[01:55] <lounge-about> it returns me to a --> line
[01:55] <lounge-about> like its waiting for something else
[01:55] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: ;
[01:56] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: put a semi-colon (;) and enter :)
[01:56] <lounge-about> syntax error
[01:56] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: there should be a semicolon in the end of every SQL command
[01:56] <emilsedgh> CREATE DATABASE name;
[01:57] <emilsedgh> do this, do not forget the ; at the end of the line
[01:57] <lounge-about> ok there we go
[01:58] <lounge-about> i think maybe i hit spacebar or something the first time...oh well, "Query ok"
[01:59] <lounge-about> sweet progress!
[02:00] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: yes, but if you want an easier way, install phpmyadmin
[02:01] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: thats in repositories
[02:01] <lounge-about> i did
[02:01] <lounge-about> and mysqladmin
[02:01] <lounge-about> and 1 other i believe
[02:02] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: but using the mysqlclient from command-line should be the best, learns you how to use SQL commands :)
[02:02] <gustavo> pgadmin3
[02:03] <lounge-about> success!
[02:04] <gustavo> lounge-about: you need the ";" on the end of commands, otherwise sql doesnt knows ur command has ended
[02:04] <lounge-about> gotcha
[02:04] <lounge-about> i got to work guys
[02:04] <lounge-about> thankyou
[02:04] <lounge-about> the forums are now up and running
[02:05] <hochimoo> when I am navigating around, firebug seems to be preventing the page from being displayed. I have to click on firebug or fiddle with it in some way for the page to be displayed
[02:05] <lounge-about> and accessible from outside my network
[02:05] <gustavo> hochimoo: so? it doesnt seems to a question
[02:05] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: oh!
[02:05] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: so, you have to change the username and password :)
[02:06] <lnx_> in konq how i can make the folder always be before the files ?
[02:06] <lounge-about> for security reasons....yes that would be smart idea
[02:06] <hochimoo> gustavo eh?
[02:06] <emilsedgh> lnx_: View->sort->Foders First :)
[02:07] <lounge-about> but i think i can take it from here
[02:07] <lounge-about> if not...lol ill back XD
[02:07] <emilsedgh> :P
[02:08] <emilsedgh> lnx_: please try to find things, if you didnt find, we will be happy to tell you
[02:09] <gustavo> hochimoo: if you want help, be objective
[02:09] <lnx_> emilsedgh , strange i dont find it , maybe its because i use "list view" ?
[02:10] <emilsedgh> yes, thats the reason, but folders are first in list view, at least for me
[02:11] <emilsedgh> lnx_: ah, click on the File type column, button
[02:15] <ryaren> hi
[02:15] <ryaren> Which DC client do you offer?
[02:29] <wittfella> Hello, how do I let a normal user mount a drive? i added 'user' to the fstab line, but ut keeps saying must be root.  mounts fine when root.
[02:30] <emilsedgh> wittfella: you could change pemissions from systemSettings->Advanced->Disks & filesystems
[02:32] <wittfella> hey emilsedgh, its a smbfs to my windows drive, so its not listed in filesystems yet
[02:32] <emilsedgh> wittfella: so i dunno
[02:32] <fkm> Did someone here ever use KFileReplace?
[02:35] <hanz> how do i get nvidia drivers on kde, i was told "restricted drivers", but isn't that just in gnome?
[02:36] <lucky_lucas> It's in kubuntu gutsy
[02:37] <hanz> is it poss to upgarde to that and is it ok to use?
[02:39] <Jucato> !nvidia
[02:39] <Ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:40] <sander_> How can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?
[02:40] <lucky_lucas> Gutsy is risky to use now
[02:40] <Jucato> well not really,... been using gusty since tribe 5
[02:40] <Jucato> pre-tribe 5
[02:41] <lucky_lucas> Hehe me too, but there are some surprise though read the forum.
[02:41] <hanz> how do i up to gusty then?
[02:42] <lucky_lucas> Are you shure you want to up to gutsy ?
[02:43] <Jucato> just for nvidia? :)
[02:43] <lucky_lucas> there is something like update-manager -d or something like that to enable the jump to gutsy fon't what  exactly it is
[02:44] <lucky_lucas> please read : dont' know what exactly
[02:44] <hanz> the must be other resons to up to it, i don't mind a bit of messing around, been on gnome for a while and got bored
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> but you can get restricted manager in feisty too
[02:45] <Jucato> but with the GNOME/Ubuntu dependencies only
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> you can look for restricted-manager in adept
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> or aptitude
[02:46] <lucky_lucas> That's why I installed ubuntu-desktop to enable it
[02:48] <hanz> sound, ill give it a spin, cheers
[02:49] <genii> Jucato: Thank you very much sir :)
[02:49] <Jucato> welcome very much :)
[02:52] <genii> I guess I should have brought enough for everyone :) Although today only TimBits
[02:52] <ScorpKing> hi genii!
[02:52] <genii> ScorpKing: Hiya
[02:53] <ScorpKing> have fun. g2g :(
[02:58] <BluesKaj> howdy All  :)
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Need Coffee!
[02:59] <Jucato> happy? :)
[03:03] <genii> I dunno why I'm in such a good mood today. the weather kinda sucks and it's the middle of the week
[03:03] <BluesKaj> genii, thx :)
[03:04] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime
[03:04] <BluesKaj> nice here sunny and clear, but a bit cool 12C
[03:05] <genii> It's getting sunny here now. but earlier was grey, windy and you could see your breath.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> that reminds me, gotta go uncover my tomatoes
[03:05] <genii> the CBC tells me it's snowing somewhere between Manitoba and Ontario
[03:06] <ksivaji> genii hi
[03:07] <BluesKaj> up around cochrane , genii
[03:13] <genii> ksivaji: Hi
[03:13] <BluesKaj> Good! the .ca repos are back up and running
[03:13] <genii> Alrite!
[03:14] <genii> ksivaji: Did you get the RAM thing figured out?
[03:15] <ksivaji> genii no i dont find any option in BIOS to change that
[03:15] <genii> ksivaji: Likely you do not have onboard video card then.
[03:15] <ksivaji> ho
[03:17] <ksivaji> you mean i have a separate vedio card
[03:17] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, did you do a " lspci | grep video " to find your video controller ?
[03:18] <ksivaji> BluesKaj i am not getting any output for  lspci | grep video
[03:18] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:19] <Jucato> lspci | grep -i vga
[03:19] <BluesKaj> ahha
[03:19] <ksivaji> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[03:20] <Jucato> it's an IGP I think
[03:20] <BluesKaj> right jucato, was wondering , the grep video shows my tv tuner card ...video is onboard
[03:20] <ksivaji> BluesKaj what ?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, the lspci grep video command only shows my TV tuner card , not this card which is onboard :VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[03:23] <BluesKaj> so Jucato's suggestion: lspci | grep -i vga is the correct one for onboard video detection
[03:23] <Jucato> he already pasted the output :)
[03:23] <Jucato> it's an S3 (onboard)
[03:24] <ksivaji> i have vedio card right ? still my system doesnt supports games why ?
[03:26] <Jucato> your video card is onboard/IGP, which means it shares/eats a part of your RAM. second, I don't think S3 has 3D hardware acceleration, which most games require
[03:26] <BluesKaj> Jucato, yes , but i just wanted make it clear , since he asked me, (what ?)
[03:26] <Jucato> I have an S3 as well. but I haven't used it since the day I bought a real video card :)
[03:26] <genii> The unichrome cards are one of the oddball cards for drivers. There is an openchrome driver but it's flakey. The default X unichrome driver I have heard has issues also
[03:26] <Jucato> (which was 2 years ago?)
[03:27] <Jucato> I think I've only tried to use my unichrome in Linux once and only once
[03:27] <Jucato> and I never tried to look for 3D acceleration
[03:27] <xdemon> hi all!
[03:27] <xdemon> can't set russian keyboard
[03:28] <xdemon> who can help me?
[03:29] <Jucato> !ru
[03:29] <Ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:32] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[03:32] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:33] <genii> x-demon: Use the method for Debian Sarge here for changing keyboard and language: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html
[03:34] <genii> Hmm
[03:34] <genii> Heh further down the list there it actually has 7.04 which i did not see at first LOL
[03:35] <Jucato> tsk tsk.. someone needs more coffee :)
[03:37] <gustavo>  i have a link on "applications menu" that doesnt work, how can i solve this? any kind of symbolic link on "/usr/share/applications" or something like it?
[03:40] <poison--> morning
[03:41] <Jucato> er.. morning :)
[03:41] <thomas1> the only way to configure openssh-server is to do it through console or text file? NO GUI?
[03:43] <gustavo> you are not on windows hehe
[03:45] <ksivaji> !emerge
[03:45] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <genii> ksivaji: emerge is more a gentoo-ism
[03:48] <sander_> Can KDE4 Beta 2 show the replacement of kicker?
[03:48] <sander_> I only get two of those grey boxes
[03:48] <emilsedgh> sander_: no
[03:49] <sander_> emilsedgh: k... clear :)
[03:49] <sander_> so not useable at all for a beta
[03:49] <chtren> ?
[03:49] <emilsedgh> sander_: 1)Kicker Replacement becomes functional after the Beta2 release 2)Plasma is not being developed in playground, which means will not included in default, it should be moved into trunk in for Beta3, I think
[03:50] <emilsedgh> sander_: I hope that Beta3 will include a functional Plasma
[03:50] <sander_> emilsedgh: okay.. so I'll continue to work with KDE3 till then :)
[03:51] <emilsedgh> sander_: Im waiting for Beta3 to 'try' to work with it as the main desktop
[03:51] <Jucato> sander_, emilsedgh: the rest of the plasmoids are in trunk/playground/base/plasma but the kicker replacement isn't complete yet
[03:51] <hydrogen>  no
[03:51] <hydrogen> well
[03:51] <hydrogen> yea
[03:51] <Jucato> all it has is a KDE icon, taskbar, and clock
[03:51] <hydrogen> I misread what you said
[03:51] <hydrogen> :)
[03:51] <Jucato> :)
[03:51] <emilsedgh> Jucato: playground is not being packaged
[03:51] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yes it isn't
[03:52] <ksivaji> genii what is ism
[03:52] <Jucato> at least not by Kubuntu
[03:52] <Jucato> genii: haha! :P
[03:52] <emilsedgh> Jucato: AFAIK, suse guys didnt make packages for it too
[03:52] <genii> ksivaji: ism in the ay I meant there is like a way of thinking,eg: gentoo thinking
[03:52] <genii> or habit etc
[03:53] <Jucato> a noun-forming suffix: changes the root word into a system of thought, a way of looking at things, or a worldview. www.summit.org/resource/dictionary/
[03:54] <Jucato> genii: next time don't expect everyone speaks/understands good Engrish :P
[03:55] <genii> Jucato: Very true, assuming things is occasionally dangerous
[03:55] <Jucato> genii: you also run the risk of losing the joke :)
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , like the word impact ...never was a verb until the californai spin doctors started using it
[03:56] <genii> hmm
[03:56] <BluesKaj> or should i say caliph-ornia
[03:59] <BluesKaj> anyway . I'm still looking for an  IPtrace app that actually works ...xtraceroute gives up too easily and there's no way of really configuring it
[04:01] <BluesKaj> wish neotrace could be ported/written for linux or whatever theproper term is.
[04:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> How can I change my default kdm login screen? I want to change the background from the default Kubuntu blue to something else...
[04:15] <lounge-about> kdmsetup
[04:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> is that an application?
[04:17] <ubuser> how do i mount a hard drive from ubuntu livecd
[04:18] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: run it!
[04:18] <lounge-about> sorry gundam it may not work...i was thinking gdmsetup for gnome
[04:18] <ubuser> i need to create some partitions by fdisk /dev/hdb but it doesn't work
[04:18] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: systemSettings->Advanced
[04:19] <lnx_> how i can instal Pidgin on kubuntu ( not gaim ) ?
[04:19] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: then go to the Login manager
[04:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> because I went and made changes on the settings control panel for kde. It still shows the darn blue login screen.
[04:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh, I am using kubuntu.
[04:19] <llutz> lnx_: compile it from source or install the .deb from getdeb.net
[04:20] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager, in Kubuntu
[04:20] <lnx_> llutz , i cant add source to adept or something like this ?
[04:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> I did make the changes there. It will still show the blue login page, once I log in, it shows the background wallpaper I selected but that is not
[04:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> what I would like to do.
[04:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I want to change the default blue background on the login page.
[04:27] <poison--> weird stuff
[04:27] <lnx_> i have an "konversation" shortcut icon on desktop and the word is warp like "conversati" new line and then "on" how i can able my desktop to have along shortcut names ?
[04:27] <poison--> dlin linux_mce-dvd, its 3.75GB with ktorrent
[04:28] <poison--> it says its already at 3.76GBs and contiues to dl
[04:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh, is there anywhere else to change the login screen on kubuntu?  I know there ways to change it on gnome in ubuntu, but I would really like to get rid of the default blue background login screen.
[04:30] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: you could change it from systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager->Background, I dunno whats the problem?
[04:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh, I have made changes in the Login manager. It doesn't change the background on the login screen. It shows up with the default kubuntu login. after I login, it then show the background I wanted but just momentarily until the default splash screen appears.
[04:32] <elvis> hey
[04:33] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: sorry i dunno then, maybe you should file a bug report ?
[04:33] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: replace in file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu/kubuntu.xml <normal file="/usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.png" /> with <normal file="/my/path/to/mycustombackground.png" />
[04:34] <genii> or comment out the line
[04:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> genii, let me try that.
[04:35] <BFC> hi! can anybody recommend a plain text editor that can compare two documents?
[04:35] <BFC> I need it to compare to .php files
[04:35] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: Remember xml comment syntax is <!
[04:36] <emilsedgh> BFC: kdiff, i think
[04:36] <BFC> emilsedgh: ok. i'll check it out
[04:36] <emilsedgh> kdiff3, BFC :)
[04:37] <BFC> thanks!!
[04:42] <luh> hi
[04:42] <luh> when trying to resize my monitor in the system settings, and i push apply afterwards, it is always set to the lowest again after reopening of the program
[04:43] <luh> what am i doing wrong?
[04:43] <poison--> nutin, your card just dont take it
[04:43] <poison--> like mine here
[04:43] <BluesKaj> luh are you using admin mode ?
[04:43] <luh> BluesKaj, yes
[04:43] <poison--> im usin 800x600 (sic) cause theres no drivers for it
[04:43] <poison--> it sucks
[04:43] <damian> espacio linux
[04:44] <damian> espacio-linux
[04:44] <luh> and it doesn't matter which one i set it to, 800x600 or 1024x768
[04:44] <BluesKaj> luh , so you have your monitor drivers setup to your make and model , just like one does for the graphics card ?
[04:45] <luh> yep
[04:45] <ksivaji> how to enable direct rendering
[04:46] <BluesKaj> luh, sometimes a relogin will reset the settings to your last preferences
[04:47] <luh> but why?
[04:47] <BluesKaj> X needs to be reset , not sure
[04:49] <luh> but it doesn't even go that far that i reload the x
[04:49] <luh> it just doesn't save the configuration of that i set in system setting
[04:49] <luh> +s
[04:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> genii, thank you. that is what I wanted to do.
[04:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I owe you a drink.
[04:52] <BluesKaj> luh,have reloggged in ?...try it
[04:52] <luh> BluesKaj, yes
[04:53] <luh> but if the data doesn't get saved in the first place it doesn't help me
[04:53] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: Glad to help
[04:53] <luh> so first the data needs to get saved, than the x server restarted
[04:53] <luh> but i have no clue wtf it doesn'T save my data
[04:53] <luh> which file would i need to edit by hand?
[04:56] <Devious_> hi all
[04:56] <emilsedgh> !hi | Devious_
[04:56] <Ubotu> Devious_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:00] <ksivaji> !grub
[05:00] <Ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:04] <ksivaji> how to mount a iso file
[05:04] <ksivaji> !iso
[05:04] <Ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:04] <llutz> ksivaji: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[05:05] <ksivaji> llutz thanks
[05:07] <Azzco> Konqueror keeps crashing for me and isn't giving me any errors in the console...
[05:08] <BluesKaj> luh , I guess if you reconfigure xserver-xorg file with different monitor and graphics card driver settings , the changes may stick , but sometimes that can be risky if you don't know what range settings the monitor can handle
[05:08] <luh> i'll try randr
[05:09] <luh> i did already try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:09] <BluesKaj> what driver is the monitor using
[05:10] <csanders> im having a hell of a time getting hardware acceleration to work with my ATI card, Ive tried dozens of tut's, nothing is seeming to work, when I run glxgears, it says DRI is not working
[05:10] <csanders> does anyone have fglrx ATI dual monitor Kubuntu system running ?
[05:10] <csanders> Logs:
[05:10] <csanders> [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[05:10] <csanders> (WW) fglrx(0): Failed to open DRM connection
[05:11] <BluesKaj> csanders, have you tried this tutorial :http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[05:11] <csanders> no, but I will try again
[05:12] <BluesKaj> csanders, it uses a patched and modded fglrx driver which provides3D and DRI for most Radeon pci and onboard cards
[05:12] <csanders> it took me forever to get dual monitors, im almost afraid to mess it up now :(
[05:12] <csanders> oh sweet
[05:12] <csanders> thats what i have ;)
[05:12] <BluesKaj> which card csanders?
[05:13] <csanders> radeon 1300
[05:13] <csanders> but this is amd64 :(
[05:13] <BluesKaj> the tutorial works for my X200G onboard
[05:14] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[05:14] <csanders> yea, amd64 is a huge PITA, I wont be going that route again
[05:14] <BluesKaj> don't think it'll work
[05:15] <luh> BluesKaj, i can't check
[05:15] <luh> the computer is not in my town, and the person isn't there any more
[05:15] <BluesKaj> i havw AMD 64 as well , but running 32bit x86 after too many probs with the 64bit version
[05:17] <BluesKaj> luh, ok so you aren't doing a remote pc setup ?
[05:17] <luh> i haven't been able to give him dyndns yet. the important part is the yet ;)
[05:19] <srcnix> Hi all, does anyone have any experience in installing Kubuntu on a Inspiron 9400?
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> allow me, if i may, to vent for a moment
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> there is a section in the forums for ubuntu dell support.  that's for the friggin dells sold with ubuntu, not any old retarded dell you want!
[05:21] <savetheWorld> go ahead
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> now
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> srcnix: is that a newer model?
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> possibly the livecd won't work?
[05:22] <savetheWorld> Daisuke_Ido: Linux has been getting installed on Inspirons for a looooooong time  already.
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> savetheWorld: yeah, and that's fine, but the dell support forum is for machines sold with ubuntu that are specifically built TO support ubuntu
[05:24] <savetheWorld> Daisuke_Ido: yes and thats fine too.  i just didnt see anything here where srcnix was doing anything in that forum. he asking in here wherer its on topic.  afaik.
[05:26] <Daisuke_Ido> savetheWorld: that's the unrelated venting part
[05:26] <savetheWorld> oh, Ok then! :-)
[05:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and then i went back to try and help him by asking a couple questions :)
[05:26] <savetheWorld> and he steadfastly ignored you, the little bugger!
[05:26] <csanders> BluesKaj:  how do you run x86 on 64 , is their a distro for it ?
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> csanders: what?
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, Yes it is, sorry for the short reply.
[05:28] <csanders> BluesKaj: said he had alot of problems with running amd64 and now hers just running 32 bit apps, im wondering how do do that Daisuke_Ido
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> intel core 2 duo...  santa rosa?
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, The problem is the live install CD doesn't work.
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, Indeed
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, So I was wondering if the alternative CD would work.
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> srcnix: you're going to have to install from the altcd
[05:29] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, ;) Gotcha! ;)
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> this *should* be fixed with gutsy, but it's a known problem with the santa rosa
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> csanders: you just install the 32 bit version
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm using the 32 bit version on an amd64
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> all of your 32 bit OSes/software will still run on a 64 bit processor, since x64 is juat an extension to the x86 architecture
[05:31] <BluesKaj> csanders, I reinstalled 32bit but there is a script (I found this out after the fact) that allows one to run as 32bit on the 64 bit version .... anyone know what it i't called?
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, unfortunately not all, some drivers won't work on the 64 that work on 32
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> really?
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i haven't found any
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i would think that a 32 bit driver would work on a 32 bit OS, even if that OS is running on a 64 bit processor...
[05:36] <aguitel> when i restard or shutdown my laptop my video gets uggly ,anyone know about this ?
[05:39] <kaminix3> How do I enable conversation logging in Kopete?
[05:40] <Jucato> kaminix3: go to Settings -> Configure Plugins -> History plugin. it's enabled by default, but actually disabled. so uncheck it first, then click Apply, then check it, and click Apply again
[05:40] <kaminix3> Thanks Jucato :)
[05:42] <kaminix3> And where will my logs be saved?
[05:42] <somiran> what does .deb file mean
[05:42] <kaminix3> somiran: Debian Package, the format used by apt.
[05:42] <genii> somiran: .deb is short for debia.
[05:42] <genii> debian
[05:42] <genii> bah typos
[05:43] <somiran> ok
[05:43] <genii> kaminix3: Thanks LOL
[05:43] <somiran> knoppix has it ?
[05:43] <Jucato> kaminix3: you can view them through Kopete. right-click on the contact and select View History
[05:43] <kaminix3> Knoppix has a file manager?
[05:43] <genii> Distributions which came from debian use this, knoppix is one of those
[05:43] <llutz> somiran: all debian-based distros have it
[05:43] <Jucato> oh him again :)
[05:44] <somiran> how can i install a application from knoppix cd to my ubuntu withoput downloading it from ubuntu as my speed is very slow
[05:45] <poison--> everytime i try to axx the share of my kubuntu machine with a windows pc, it asks me for a username and pwd
[05:45] <poison--> any ideas where i setup dat
[05:45] <somiran> sorry jucato but i really need help that time i have some patien to attend
[05:45] <somiran> some patient
[05:46] <llutz> somiran: that hardly woould work, knoppix packages are made for knoppix and not ubuntu. their dependencies etc. will fail on most other distros
[05:47] <genii> somiran: Using .deb files from a different distribution like knoppix for instance is not recommended.
[05:47] <somiran> is there any other way to install apllication in ubuntu without internet
[05:48] <Jucato> genii: basic background. he has a slow internet. he needs to install stuff from a cd he got from a pc magazine
[05:48] <genii> Jucato: OK thanks :)
[05:48] <Jucato> earlier he was asking about installing an .rpm for java from that cd
[05:48] <poison--> lol
[05:49] <genii> somiran: If the application is on the ubuntu install cdrom you can install it. there is a command apt-cdrom for this, to add a cdrom to the list of repositories ubuntu looks
[05:49] <somiran> yes i have told that but as i am new so i am wondering
[05:50] <genii> somiran: If you have faster internet another place, you can download the .deb files that way and then put them after into /var/cache/apt/archives    on the box without internet to install them as well
[05:50] <Delrin500> how can i have my linux machine automount a NTFS usb drive? I installed Automatix but it still doesn't work anyone have any ideas?
[05:50] <genii> !automatix
[05:51] <Ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:51] <poison--> u should try diskmounter
[05:51] <poison--> !diskmounter
[05:51] <Ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:51] <Delrin500> diskmounter? is that easy to use?
[05:51] <poison--> yep
[05:52] <poison--> no worrys
[05:53] <Delrin500> hell thanks guys... i didn't think it would be so easy to get info
[05:53] <somiran> thank u genii
[05:53] <genii> somiran: Good luck and you are welcome
[05:53] <Delrin500> anyone know how to get Firefox to be my default browser  instead of Konqueror
[05:54] <evans> hi Derlin
[05:55] <Delrin500> hello evans
[05:55] <Delrin500> how is it going?
[05:56] <evans> im fine,i want to assist you
[05:56] <bibstha> hi all, whats the shortcut to switch keyboard layout? cant figure it out
[05:56] <Delrin500> ok
[05:56] <Delrin500> shoot
[05:56] <bibstha> also i looked into system settings and don't see where to set it
[05:56] <Delrin500> how do i change default browsers
[05:56] <poison--> within firefox configs
[05:56] <Jucato> bibstha: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:57] <evans> you go to Preferences then Preferred applications
[05:57] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:57] <Delrin500> it is a pain i don't use Konqueror very often and when ever i click on a link it opens using it instead of Firebox
[05:57] <Jucato> bibstha: default is Ctrl+Alt+K I think
[05:57] <evans> it will give u an option to change your defaults
[05:57] <Jucato> Delrin500: follow the command BluesKaj gave
[05:57] <bibstha> ctrl +alt + k works
[05:57] <bibstha> :) nice
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> evans: are you using kde or gnome?
[05:57] <Jucato> evans: the one in System Settings only affects KDE apps though
[05:57] <Delrin500> Blues>sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser         this is it???
[05:58] <bibstha> strange that layout addition was inside regional and language
[05:58] <evans> gnome
[05:58] <bibstha> but keyboard shortcut setting is at another place
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> this is #kubuntu.  kde users.
[05:58] <bibstha> Jucato, oh??
[05:58] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, you may also want to change your default browser in you IRC cliet, system settings/default applications, etc
[05:58] <Delrin500> Hell!!! thanks Blues that was super easy
[05:58] <Delrin500> you guys are awesome
[05:58] <Delrin500> thank you very much
[05:58] <Jucato> bibstha: Keyboard Layout is a regional setting. Keyboard shortcuts aren't
[05:59] <BluesKaj> hehe, yer welcome Delrin500
[05:59] <bibstha> Jucato, :-) just figured, thanks
[05:59] <Jucato> bibstha: it just so happens that you're looking for the keyboard shortcut to change keyboard layout :P
[05:59] <poison--> !samba
[05:59] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:59] <bibstha> Jucato, can't help it but took a lot of time wasting in google
[05:59] <mefisto__> Delrin500: in system settings > default applications ?
[06:00] <Delrin500> i am a Windows admin and Linux is not my specialty so i appriecate the help...
[06:00] <bibstha> Jucato, anyway it can be done globally? while not in kde?
[06:00] <Jucato> bibstha: there's a search bar in System Settings too :)
[06:00] <Jucato> bibstha: nope. sorry. KDE only affects KDE
[06:00] <bibstha> aah
[06:00] <bibstha> scim is easy
[06:00] <bibstha> and works globally
[06:01] <Jucato> mefisto__: that way only affects KDE apps. If he were to click a link in a non-KDE app (GAIM/Pidgin or whatever) it would still launch in Konqi unless he changes the alternatives
[06:01] <bibstha> i wonder how its done with xkb
[06:01] <Jucato> bibstha: but scim is an app that is running. it has it's own shortcuts. the Ctrl+Alt+K is a shortcut for KDE. it wouldn't affect GNOME
[06:02] <bibstha> ooh,
[06:02] <bibstha> so no such app for xkb?
[06:02] <Jucato> wouldn't know. sorry
[06:03] <bibstha> Jucato, ooh no problem, but thanks again
[06:03] <poison--> can anyone help me axx my linux share trough a windows machine
[06:03] <poison--> lmao
[06:04] <bibstha> Jucato, i used to be on scim, i run openbox and strangely when im on kde apps, input sometimes automatically switches to xkb
[06:04] <genii> (to drink coffee from)
[06:04] <BluesKaj> hehe
[06:05] <evans> bye
[06:05] <BluesKaj> wife use old windows pc for her solitaire and surf/email ...it's 8 yrs old and still chugging along :)
[06:05] <poison--> in fact my issue is dat i dled linux mce dvd in this laptop, and its too slow to burn it, so i need to transfer it to the win machine
[06:05] <poison--> specs cant take it
[06:05] <poison--> :(
[06:05] <poison--> cant ask much from a VIA laptop lmao
[06:06] <genii> poison--: install samba. Then share the directory the iso is in.
[06:07] <neosix> hello people!!!
[06:07] <poison--> already did
[06:07] <poison--> amn thing keeps asking me for a username and pwd
[06:07] <poison--> i type the one i use for login in kubuntu and it doenst work
[06:08] <BluesKaj> genii, samba refuse me acces from wife's windows pc to the linux partition on this box ..the reverse is no prob and windows to windows works great
[06:08] <genii> poison--: if your kubuntu login is user do:      sudo smbpasswd -ae user
[06:08] <genii> poison--: Then make sure the iso is owned by that user as well
[06:08] <poison--> lemme try
[06:08] <Delrin500> should i use the experimental NTFS writting support? it is not reccomended, when installing diskmounter
[06:09] <Delrin500> ?
[06:09] <neosix> does anybody know some good mp3 organizer like "Where is it"?
[06:09] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, ntfs-3g ?
[06:10] <Delrin500> Blues> not sure it says "
[06:10] <Delrin500> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support
[06:10] <Delrin500> through a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but
[06:10] <Delrin500> is NOT recommended.
[06:10] <poison--> wow.. it worked
[06:10] <poison--> lmao
[06:10] <poison--> thanks geii
[06:10] <poison--> genii even
[06:10] <genii> poison--: np. glad to be of help
[06:10] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, accessing windows partitions from linux , use ntfs-3g and ntfs config
[06:11] <BluesKaj> err ntfs-config
[06:11] <Delrin500> so diskmounter is not the way to go?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> dunno Delrin500 ...I've never used diskmounter
[06:12] <Delrin500> oh ok
[06:12] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, but I do know that ntfs-3g and ntfs-config allows me ato read/write to my windows parition apps
[06:13] <Delrin500> well i am going to give it a try and if it doesn't work I will use your reccomendation... I have already started installing it
[06:13] <Delrin500> is ntfs -3g the app or the command line script ?
[06:13] <BluesKaj> ok Delrin500 , let us know how that works out
[06:13] <sam1338> anybody know any sli motherboard names?
[06:13] <sam1338> quad sli i mean
[06:13] <genii> Delrin500: it's the app. ntfs-config the config tool you run after it installs
[06:13] <Jucato> genii: you need more coffee.. it's 6.06(.1)
[06:14] <mefisto__> Delrin500: ntfs-3g is great. it saved my ntfs disk that windows chkdsk screwed up and made inaccessible. ntfs-3g allowed me to access everything to back up data
[06:14] <genii> Jucato: Nah, you need the coffee LOL    "[12:10]  <Delrin500> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing suppor"
[06:15] <Jucato> haha oh yeah
[06:15] <Jucato> I need to scroll up more :)
[06:15] <BluesKaj> don't we all
[06:15] <jetsaredi1> where is the lock file that is used by the package management systems?
[06:15] <genii> !aptfix
[06:15] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:15] <genii> In that place is the lock file
[06:16] <jetsaredi1> genii: thanks
[06:16] <ksivaji> please help me i tried to install widows after kubuntu .but i didnt complete windows installation ,i terminated installation after partitioning disk now i cant boot kubuntu grub says no such partition
[06:18] <ksivaji> genii  BluesKaj any suggestion
[06:19] <Jucato> !windows
[06:19] <Ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:19] <Jucato> !grub
[06:19] <Ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:19] <Jucato> first link ksivaji
[06:20] <ksivaji> but i didnt complete installation
[06:20] <poison--> lol@!windows
[06:20] <genii> ksivaji: Better to put windows first then ubuntu so grub doesn't bet wiped out by windows mbr
[06:20] <Jucato> ksivaji: yeah. but you need to recover GRUB nonetheless
[06:20] <Jucato> so you need that link
[06:20] <Jucato> let it be a lesson not to install windows
[06:20] <Jucato> hehe j/k
[06:21] <ksivaji> genii i dont want windows
[06:21] <genii> ksivaji: Because of the place you terminated the install, right after partitioning, it may be a bit tricky to recover from
[06:22] <kristjan_> is where a command that will "cd here?"
[06:22] <Jucato> kristjan_: cd .
[06:22] <Jucato> hmph
[06:22] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, download and and burn supergrub disk - bootloader restore disk ...itwill help you restore grub and mbr dfor windows
[06:23] <ksivaji> BluesKaj ya  i tried that also grub says no such partition
[06:23] <genii> ksivaji: Are you on a livecd right now?
[06:23] <ksivaji> but it is not acutally deleted i can see the / folders  from live cd
[06:24] <ksivaji> yes genii
[06:24] <Delrin500> one last question how do i set the detailed list view as the default view in Konqueror for browsing the file system?? the icons are really annoying
[06:24] <BluesKaj> I guess not, but you have testore the linux grub menu by using the disk , then you can retry reinstalling windows
[06:25] <BluesKaj> err ksivaji
[06:25] <ksivaji> BluesKaj err means
[06:25] <BluesKaj> you
[06:26] <BluesKaj> my last entry . ksivaji
[06:26] <genii> ksivaji: It may be useful for you to pastebin these things for us:     result of command    sudo fdisk -l         result of command   mount
[06:26] <genii> afk, cig.3-4 mins
[06:26] <BluesKaj> genii, ya gotta quit
[06:27] <mefisto__> Delrin500: the way I did it is in konqueror settings>file associations, expand inode and select directory. Then go to the Embedding tab and move the default view you want to the top of the list.
[06:27] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m44a818b4
[06:27] <mefisto__> Delrin500: also, you might want to do the same for inode system_directory
[06:28] <ksivaji> genii Bluekaj my root partition was at /dev/hdb3 but it is in hdb2
[06:29] <Solifugus> Where is the printer job manager?
[06:29] <Jackal> ! flash
[06:29] <Ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:29] <ksivaji> :'(
[06:30] <ksivaji> genii Bluekay so
[06:31] <Delrin500> well thanks for all the help guys I really appriecate the time you put into this channel.... take care
[06:31] <mefisto__> Solifugus: in utilities menu (kjobviewer)
[06:33] <ksivaji> genii are you there ?
[06:34] <genii> back
[06:34] <BluesKaj> well, going on errands ,BBL
[06:35] <ksivaji> tell me what should i do
[06:35] <ksivaji> BluesKaj :P
[06:35] <Solifugus> mefisto__: thanks.. i looked in there but for some reason didn't see it.
[06:35] <genii> ksivaji: Let me go look at paste etc. Patience please :)
[06:35] <ksivaji> ok
[06:35] <mefisto__> Solifugus: happens to me all the time
[06:36] <genii> ksivaji: Ah, no paste in scroll
[06:36] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m44a818b4
[06:36] <genii> OK reading
[06:38] <genii> ksivaji: So hdb2 is the old / then? Or maybe hdb5
[06:38] <genii> hdb6 rather
[06:38] <gabby> How to I remove a package via the command line, so that not only is the package gone, but all the config files, every last trace? with apt?
[06:38] <ksivaji> hdb is my current root partition
[06:38] <ksivaji> 2
[06:39] <genii> ksivaji OK, so you are getting a grub prompt at all or no right now?
[06:39] <genii> (when trying to boot)
[06:39] <poison--> gabby, why dont u find the file in adept and try "purging"
[06:40] <ksivaji> getting grub prompt
[06:40] <ksivaji> but grub says partition doesnt exist
[06:40] <ksivaji> genii:
[06:41] <poison--> lol
[06:41] <mefisto__> ksivaji: did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and it didn't work?
[06:41] <genii> ksivaji OK good. So now please paste the old files fstab and menu.lst from grub. eg: /root/tmp/etc/fstab   and /root/tmp/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:42] <ksivaji> mefisto_ this is differnt i am getting grub prompt
[06:42] <genii> ksivaji: It seems hard drives were physically rearranged possibly
[06:42] <gabby> poison--: it's a server system
[06:42] <mefisto__> ksivaji: it seems grub is not finding where your linux / root is.
[06:43] <ksivaji> exactly
[06:43] <gabby> but I can use purge with apt - so I'm saved!
[06:43] <ksivaji> cat: /root/tmp/etc/fstab: No such file or directory
[06:43] <ksivaji> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[06:44] <genii> ksivaji: sorry was temp not tmp  ...adjust accordingly
[06:44] <poison--> ups, my bad gabby
[06:44] <poison--> did it work gabby
[06:45] <bomber> hello folks
[06:46] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m5f3e399f
[06:47] <bomber> the border of different windows in edgy with kde used to be adjustable but the other day i installed a bunch of games from the repositories and then when i booted the next day now the borders are back to being large and i cant seem to be able to change it
[06:47] <genii> ksivaji: OK reading. Will tell you changes shortly
[06:47] <trixon> Hi! Can someone here tell me where I change my computers 'identifier' for bluetooth?
[06:48] <ksivaji> trixon kmenu->system setting ->network
[06:48] <bomber> when i booted i got a window like when the initial setup took place
[06:48] <gabby> poison--: yeah, I'm in the clear!
[06:49] <poison--> sweet
[06:49] <trixon> ksivaji: no, not that, thats my computername, In ubuntu I was able to set a totally different name. Not in Kubuntu?
[06:50] <ksivaji> you have separate  channel called #ubuntu
[06:50] <trixon> Im running kubuntu now...
[06:53] <genii> ksivaji:First change: In the fstab. comment out line UUID=c41c400c-0723-4611-a36f-eac1a36e6028 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1    add under this a line: /dev/hdb2        / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[06:53] <ksivaji> ok
[06:56] <combinio> does anybody here know japanese language just a little ? ;P
[06:56] <ksivaji> genii done then
[06:56] <genii> ksivaji: In menu.lst change (hd0,2)  to (hd0,1)      and also change UUID=c41c400c-0723-4611-a36f-eac1a36e6028 to /dev/hdb2
[06:56] <ksivaji> ok
[06:57] <genii> ksivaji:WAIT
[06:57] <genii> ksivaji:(hd0,2) to (hd1,1)   rather
[06:58] <mefisto__> ksivaji: don't forget line 97 (as shown in pastebin)
[06:58] <ubuntu> Hi all
[06:59] <genii> mefisto__: Thanks, i had forgotten about that one
[06:59] <neosix> I need mp3 organizer. Does anybody know some?
[06:59] <mefisto__> grub actually does a pretty good job of doing all this for you
[07:00] <mefisto__> neosix: amarok?
[07:00] <combinio> no one knows japanese ? :/
[07:00] <genii> ksivaji: If grub fails again next boot,go again to menu.lst and change where we put now (hd1,1) into (hd1,2)
[07:00] <genii> work, back in a few minutes
[07:01] <neosix> mefisto: does it work like "Where is it"?
[07:02] <mefisto__> neosix: play around with amarok, you'll love it. it does plenty. you'll wonder how you lived without it
[07:02] <fkm> Hi there. Could someone give me a hint, on how to find help concerning a scanner? I got a "Canon CanoScan LiDE 20" and can't find a tutorial, which tells me how to install it
[07:02] <ksivaji> mefisto__ genii: i have only (hd0,2) no (hd1,1)
[07:02] <deviance> What photoshop replacements are avalibe for linux? I know of Gimp but thats about it
[07:02] <hydrogen> krita
[07:02] <neosix> mefisto: Thanks man, I'll try...
[07:02] <ksivaji> deviance gimp is best
[07:03] <hydrogen> krita is bester
[07:03] <hydrogen> tbh
[07:03] <ksivaji>  hydrogen gimp :-*
[07:04] <mefisto__> krita better than gimp?
[07:05] <genii> ksivaji: Yes, change everywhere it says  (hd0,2) into (hd1,1)
[07:05] <deviance> hydrogen gimp?
[07:05] <hydrogen> huh?
[07:06] <deviance> Oh sorry, Lol
[07:06] <deviance> I though that was the name of a gimp version like gimpshop xD
[07:07] <fkm> Any clues?
[07:07] <fkm> Nobody?
[07:07] <stoffer_> i need some help installing nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic.
[07:07] <deviance> !adeptlock
[07:07] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <stoffer_> i try to get my nvidia card to work but that package is always giving complains and im not able to install it
[07:07] <mefisto__> fkm: have you tried checking to see if your scanner is supported?
[07:07] <deviance> How do I unlock adept again, I keeeeps crashing :(
[07:08] <deviance> !unlockadept
[07:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlockadept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <fkm> Yes, I found a whole page dedicated to the subject that it works and how fine. But I didn't see a link to a HOWTO there :( http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/1228
[07:08] <deviance> !adeptunlock
[07:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptunlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <deviance> pah
[07:09] <fkm> mefisto__: And that's the abut it concerning my luck with Google :(
[07:09] <genii> !aptfix
[07:09] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:09] <deviance> Thats the one, thanks :P
[07:10] <fkm> mefisto__: I even find it in KInfoCenter and with USB Viewer
[07:10] <genii> deviance: np
[07:10] <fkm> mefisto__: But that's my first device I had to install on my own in Linux. So I don't know, where to start
[07:11] <ksivaji> genii:  i will reboot and come
[07:12] <deviance> HAH Gimp does actualy have a toilet paper option!
[07:16] <mefisto__> fkm: I haven't ever installed a scanner in linux, so someone else might be a better source of info. have you looked in ubuntu forums about installing scanners?
[07:17] <fkm> mefisto__  I found a page I'm looking through at the moment. And no, didn't check the forums directly. I'll do that afterwards. Thank you for your time! :)
[07:19] <poison--> i had luck with a lexmark x1290 with a scanner
[07:22] <Luismi> how i can see man pages with konkeror?
[07:23] <maverick__> weired problem, whenever i try to set my time to the new winter clock (EGYPT) it resets back to the summer daylight saving clock again as soon as i connect to the internet.....am using Kubuntu Feisty
[07:23] <Luismi> how i can see man pages with konkeror?
[07:23] <maverick__> i disabled the "Set date and time automatically"
[07:24] <Jucato> Luismi: man:/whatever
[07:24] <Jucato> and it's Konqueror :)
[07:25] <poison--> lol
[07:27] <Luismi> thanks Jucato
[07:29] <Kr4t05> What port does NFS typically use?
[07:29] <genii> I think 871
[07:30] <arash_> ok guys, really embarassin story here...
[07:31] <arash_> I dragged aroud the bottom bar with the windows and the 'K' on it to different sides, and when I dragged it to the right side, it just dissappeared :o, any ideas?
[07:32] <genii> maybe 2049
[07:34] <mefisto__> arash_: right-click the panel (the bottom bar) and "Add Applet to Panel..." If Kmenu is there, add it
[07:34] <Jucato> arash_: the whole panel (bar) disappeared?
[07:34] <arash_> mefisto__  the thing is that the bar disappeared
[07:35] <arash_> and I restarted X, but it seem to save the settings :p
[07:35] <Jucato> arash_: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels. and set the position of the panel. It should reappear
[07:36] <arash_> Jucato, yay :)
[07:36] <Jucato> :P
[07:37] <Mike3> Someone please help, I just installed Kubuntu on my old laptop, by accident I did it in 1024x768 and my laptop only works on 800x600, I just set it to 640x480 in x.conf but it still loads at 1024x768
[07:37] <Mike3> How do I fix?
[07:39] <bucken> ?
[07:39] <bucken> anyone ?
[07:39] <bucken> ;>
[07:41] <noobus> How do I mount a network drive in Linux?
[07:42] <noobus> Elloo?
[07:43] <fkm> Nice :) Now the scanner seems loaded. I had to install sane and do a reboot (probably could have loaded the device manually, but that's over my head right now)
[07:45] <ubuntu__> hola
[07:45] <ubuntu__> hya alguien
[07:45] <ubuntu__> ahi
[07:46] <ubuntu__> necesito ayuda
[07:46] <ayuda> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:46] <mefisto__> well done fkm!
[07:47] <fkm> Well, didn't do much ;)
[07:47] <ayuda> esoty
[07:47] <ayuda> necerrqado
[07:47] <ayuda> con un secuestrador
[07:47] <ayuda> el cual no se encuentra en este momento
[07:47] <ayuda> nos edonde ni como
[07:47] <ayuda> ayuda
[07:47] <ayuda> por favir
[07:47] <ayuda> que ya vuelv
[07:47] <mefisto__> fkm: it works, right?
[07:47] <ayuda> ahi viene
[07:47] <fkm> mefisto__: And the scanner will not scan. But I haven't depleted my ressources for that problem yet :)
[07:47] <ayuda> ayudemen
[07:47] <pag> !es | ayuda
[07:47] <Ubotu> ayuda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:47] <dhq> how do i connect odbc and java in linux is there a manager or something
[07:47] <ayuda> help me
[07:48] <ayuda> Xevere
[07:48] <Jucato> ayuda: this is an English only channel
[07:48] <fkm> mefisto__: Well no. The scanner will not move. But the applications (tried xsane and kooka) don't sem to realise
[07:48] <ayuda> ok
[07:48] <ayuda> english
[07:48] <ayuda> no spanish
[07:48] <Jucato> !es | ayuda
[07:48] <Ubotu> ayuda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:48] <ayuda> thank
[07:49] <fkm> mefisto__: They say they are scanning (with a status bar moving acros the screen) but the picture they get is blackness and the scanner doesn't move an inch...
[07:49] <ayuda> usen UTUTO
[07:49] <ayuda> is free
[07:49] <ayuda> kubuntu has private sw
[07:50] <Jucato> ayuda: if you need help, go to #kubuntu-es
[07:51] <mefisto__> is ayuda spamming us?
[07:51] <Jucato> one more and he's gone
[07:53] <ayuda> hey
[07:53] <ayuda> motherfucker
[07:53] <ayuda> yeah
[07:53] <ayuda> bye
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> well, you warned him...
[07:54] <Jucato> O.o
[07:59] <kaminix3> When doing metaflac --set-tag=TAG="tag", does it matter how a capitalize TAG?
[07:59] <fkm> mefisto__: Ran into a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/85488
[08:00] <fkm> mefisto__: Maybe I'll find a workaround :)
[08:01] <lnx_> how i can make apps to start on startup ( like kopete , konversation . . . ) ?
[08:02] <Jucato> lnx_: just leave them open when you logout. by default they will be started when you login
[08:02] <Jucato> (unless you changed the default behavior)
[08:02] <Jucato> !autostart
[08:02] <Ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[08:02] <lnx_> Jucato , that it i have changed to start empty session . . .
[08:05] <ceg23349> All these people, and no one ever speaks...
[08:05] <lnx_> Jucato , what is the command to run kcontrol-autostart ?
[08:05] <ceg23349> oh ><
[08:05] <lnx_> ceg23349 , its good , isnt it ?
[08:05] <ceg23349> oh yeah.  392 people, and they all just idle...
[08:06] <lnx_> ceg23349 , this si support channel , no talking = no problems
[08:06] <ceg23349> lnx_, I guess that's a good thing then... I suppose I should stop talking...
[08:07] <ceg23349> Unless you can tell me how to mount a network drive...
[08:07] <pekuja> I'm having some trouble with Skype. My microphone doesn't seem to be working.
[08:07] <lnx_> ceg23349 , i dont know , but someone will
[08:08] <pekuja> I have an Intel HDA sound card [integrated]
[08:08] <ceg23349> sweet!   Worked for me. :)
[08:09] <pekuja> heh, ok, I'll try if that helps :-)
[08:09] <nadrosima> whoo can test and chesk my linux cs server  ?
[08:09] <lnx_> i get this error when i try to install kcontrol-autostart : dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 13212 package `libgtksourceview1.0-0':
[08:09] <pekuja> I already tried with kmix and that didn't really help
[08:09] <pekuja> by the way, what's a good audio recording/editing app for KDE?
[08:09] <kaminix3> How can I list all vorbis comments in a flac file? I'm trying to check with my other FLAC releases if I should add anything to one I'm tagging from scratch. :p
[08:10] <pekuja> kaminix3, what sound card do you have, by the way?
[08:10] <kaminix3> pekuja: No idea about the recording thing. And if "sudo alsamixer" in the console doesn't work I don't know what will.
[08:10] <kaminix3> pekuja: 2s and I'll check.
[08:11] <nadrosima> Linux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip <IP_ADDRESS>:27015 (samsun server)
[08:11] <ceg23349> I know next to nothing about linux.  Knowing this can you tell me why my Amarok closes immediately upon opening, or should I look for something specialized to Amarok?
[08:12] <kaminix3> pekuja: Hmm... can't find it in lshw. Some integrated Intel poo though. Laptop.
[08:12] <SteffeN> Hello Everybody
[08:12] <nadrosima> Linux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip <IP_ADDRESS>:27015 (samsun server)
[08:13] <nadrosima> helol SteffeN
[08:13] <kaminix3> ceg23349: What error do you get?
[08:13] <pekuja> kaminix3, anyways, thanks. I found the right setting to change in alsamixer
[08:14] <pekuja> kaminix3, in retrospect, I should had known to try widdling with that, but it's always so easy to ask other people ;-)
[08:14] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I don't.  It just quits.
[08:14] <kaminix3> pekuja: Nice. Love when I find something I can actually solve <3
[08:14] <pekuja> :-)
[08:14] <pekuja> it was pretty weird actually
[08:14] <kaminix3> ceg23349: That's really really strange. Try starting it through console?
[08:14] <pekuja> there was an input source setting in the playback options...
[08:14] <SteffeN> I just checked my harddrive with badblocks: badblocks -s -v /dev/had
[08:14] <SteffeN> Unfortunately it fount about 30 defective blocks. What can I do to repair them or to mark them?
[08:14] <kaminix3> pekuja: Heh, yeah, that is strange. :p
[08:14] <pekuja> and there's basically three input sources that I can configure to be various actual ports O__o
[08:15] <pekuja> like Line In or Mic or CD
[08:15] <pekuja> or Front Mic, which it was set to. I assume that means the Mic port on the front of my box
[08:15] <pekuja> kinda seems silly too that I think I could had solved this by connecting the mic to another port...
[08:15] <nadrosima> SteffeN:  bad sector in ur sistem drive ?
[08:16] <pekuja> but then I wouldn't had known why it didn't work on the back
[08:16] <kaminix3> SteffeN: Okay, I can't say for sure. But I think badblocks are usually bad parts of the disk. Usually beyond repair. But as I said, I'm not sure.
[08:16] <ceg23349> kaminix3, okay, trying now...
[08:16] <SteffeN> no,it's on a other machine (winXP). so it shoud be NTFS or FAT
[08:16] <kaminix3> pekuja: Work arounds are good, but solutions are better. :p
[08:17] <pekuja> yep
[08:17] <pekuja> I hope the settings stay after I reboot or something. :-P
[08:17] <ScorpKing> is there a kopete 0.12.4 source package available? i only see 0.12.2 on http://kopete.kde.org/releases.php
[08:17] <pekuja> although I guess I can configure alsamixer to load settings at bootup
[08:17] <kaminix3> Takes time. <3
[08:17] <pekuja> so it's solvable anways
[08:17] <kaminix3> pekuja: It doesn't save settings on shut down? :p
[08:18] <pekuja> kaminix3, I think it might... I dunno though.
[08:18] <pekuja> Will have to try it at some point.
[08:18] <hitmanWilly> there's a trick with alsamixer to save the settings, just can't remember it off the top of my head
[08:18] <pekuja> I think I still have one problem left with this new box... the PC speaker goes crazy during shutdown O__o
[08:18] <kaminix3> pekuja: I know I only had to set my alsamixer settings once.
[08:19] <pekuja> ok, I guess it'll get saved automatically
[08:19] <pekuja> "goes crazy" meaning it emits a loud long beep
[08:19] <kaminix3> Man, 488384000 is a lot of blocks... :p
[08:19] <pekuja> maybe several
[08:19] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, i think you can have alsamixer mute the speaker
[08:19] <ceg23349> kaminix3, it still crashes; the window comes up, but the contents don't display.  Just what was behind it when it first opened...
[08:20] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, yeah, I know... but I have this feeling there's something actually wrong. muting the speaker is a good workaround though
[08:20] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, it's probably a misinterperted signal to the mobo, probably no big deal
[08:21] <nadrosima> Linux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip <IP_ADDRESS>:27015 (samsun server)
[08:21] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, probably not, but it's still annoying
[08:22] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, well, that's what the workaround is for :)
[08:22] <ceg23349> okay.... new question.  How do I add a network folder so I can look at it in Konqueror?
[08:22] <pekuja> I guess so
[08:22] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Do you get an error in the console?
[08:22] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, or, you could figure out what the kernel module is for the speaker and unload that altogether
[08:22] <nadrosima> get instal samba
[08:22] <pekuja> what if I *want* to hear the PC speaker when I'm just regularly using the system? :-O
[08:23] <pekuja> I don't though. I mostly delete pcspkr.ko
[08:23] <nadrosima> make a share folder
[08:23] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, yeah I know what the module is
[08:23] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, I usually delete it because I get annoyed
[08:23] <kaminix3> pekuja: Shut it off before shutting down the PC? ^_^
[08:23] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, good, cuz i couldn't remember it :)
[08:23] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I just don't know how do do it...
[08:23] <pekuja> kaminix3, but that would require actual work :-p
[08:24] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, or just make a shutdown script that rmmod's it
[08:24] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Open the terminal, write "amarok" (without the "), hit enter. If it crash you usually get an error message in the console.
[08:24] <jessejazza> I installed kubuntu today but found that it would't set the language to UK-EN. I had the original installation as standard ubu and installed xfce and kubuntu to have a look. It would seem i've made a mistake somehow
[08:24] <kaminix3> terminal = konsole in KDE
[08:24] <pekuja> yeah, I'll probably just remove the module and see if that helps
[08:24] <pekuja> if it doesn't though...
[08:24] <bigleon> Good morning people today
[08:24] <pekuja> then it's not Linux trying to make the beep
[08:25] <ceg23349> kaminix3, ah
[08:25] <pekuja> maybe I could find some useful info in some logs or something
[08:25] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, that's what bios settings are for :)
[08:25] <pekuja> hah
[08:25] <pekuja> I guess
[08:25] <ScorpKing> welcome back bigleon. how does konversation behave today?
[08:25] <pekuja> anyways, something is wrong if it's making a loud beep like that
[08:25] <kaminix3> jessejazza: K menu -> System Settings -> Regional settings (I think it's called)
[08:25] <pekuja> maybe it's something really minor, but I just don't really know
[08:26] <bigleon> ScorpKing it seems to be behaving but everytime i hit Y for my update it aborts -.-
[08:26] <ceg23349> kaminix3, Thought so.  And nope... no errors.  Is there some option that would make Konsole be less verbose, so it would just not be displaying any potential errors?
[08:26] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, honestly, it's probably something with how the mobo handles the shutdown cmds
[08:26] <coreymon77> speaking about konversation
[08:27] <ScorpKing> bigleon: it kicks me off every once in a while. what are you updating?
[08:27] <bigleon> i'm trying to do my full update from 6.06 to 6.10
[08:27] <uga> guys, anyone can tell about issues one might find when migrating from a 32 bit box to a 64 bit intel one? does (almost) everything work out of the box?
[08:27] <ScorpKing> again?
[08:27] <ScorpKing> bigleon: if it's working don't fix it. wait for your cd
[08:28] <hitmanWilly> uga, yes, but you'll have the usual 64 bit app compatibility issues
[08:28] <kaminix3> ceg23349: No. Konsole is just a console running programs. The errors are given from all the programs you run with it. You could add &> /dev/null on each line if you want to get rid of all errors though, I think. :p
[08:28] <bigleon> ScorpKing i really don't want to wait a month
[08:28] <bigleon> and if it fails... i can just jump back to 6.06 XD that takes about 5 minutes to install
[08:28] <coreymon77> when i open konversation, it autojoins the channels in my autojoin list so quickly that freenode doesnt have enough tine to cloak me before i join
[08:28] <coreymon77> how can i fix that
[08:28] <bigleon> nice thing about sata hd and 2gb's of ram haha
[08:28] <hitmanWilly> uga, the intel 64 bit support has gotten better lately
[08:28] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I see... Well I was actually hoping to see more errors, but still, anything I can learn is nice ^^
[08:28] <ScorpKing> bigleon: so ud rather curse the thing for a month. lol.
[08:29] <poison--> lol
[08:29] <bigleon> ScorpKing: I am a very determined person, I really don't like to give up
[08:29] <hitmanWilly> uga, at least from what i've heard...amd man myself
[08:29] <uga> hitmanWilly: thanks. I need to replace the motherboard, and I wouldn't like to get locked into an older 32 bit cpu. So I'm planning to go for a quad core
[08:29] <bigleon> !verison
[08:29] <felipe_> hi ... can you help me ... mi desktop doesnt power off from the menu, just reboot
[08:29] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about verison - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <bigleon> am i spelling it wrong XD
[08:29] <ScorpKing> bigleon: so am i. let me know if it's fixed. :D
[08:29] <felipe_> i can power off from console
[08:29] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Had any other problems such as this with other programs?
[08:29] <felipe_> but a  iwant to fix that
[08:29] <uga> hitmanWilly: heh, I've looked at amd too, but I like intel chipset boards. They run so fine here in the past.
[08:30] <bigleon> ScorpKing well now my laptop works and my desktop is messed up horribly
[08:30] <uga> and then I hear amd is about to release a new slot
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> uga, well, if you run into issues, you can still run the 32 bit OS on that proc until the 64 bit one gets more stable
[08:30] <bigleon> i'm about reboot laptop and there is a good chance you won't hear from me for about 30 -60 minutes
[08:30] <uga> hitmanWilly: on the intel? or you mean on the amd. I thought only amd had that 32bit compat capability?
[08:30] <bigleon> i wanted to verify install is there any thing i can run from terminal b-4 i reboot?
[08:30] <ceg23349> kaminix3, nope, Amarok's the only one.  Think I should see what the Amarok people have to say
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> uga, they both do IIRC
[08:31] <uga> oh, I'll have to check that. Thanks
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> uga, otherwise windows wouldn't run on it either :)
[08:31] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Maybe. Have you got the latest updates? Tried re-installing amarok?
[08:31] <ScorpKing> bigleon: i swapped my desktop for a laptop, a loss actually, but i'll have one again soon. my laptop is working great. 640MHz 320MB RAM. :D
[08:31] <uga> hitmanWilly: well, I believe there's a special 64bit version of vista
[08:31] <uga> although some claimed they installed a 32 bit version, I think you're right
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> uga, there is, but its very unstable, even more so than vista
[08:32] <uga> lol, true
[08:32] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I think I will.  Not at the moment since this is a school box and my instructor is trying to get me to do something else, but soon :D
[08:32] <bigleon> ScorpKing wish me luck, i'll hopefully be back
[08:32] <ScorpKing> good luck then.
[08:33] <hitmanWilly> uga, which is why oem's still install 32 bit windows, even on 64 bit processors
[08:33] <kaminix3> ceg23349: cool, laptop borrowed from school or actual school computers with Linux? and amarok? :o
[08:33] <uga> hitmanWilly: thanks for the info, now I feel safer with the upgrade, hehe
[08:33] <genii> Man the coffee's disappearing fast today
[08:33] <genii> :)
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> uga, also something to keep in mind is that ubuntu 64 is a pain to run 32 bit apps on
[08:34] <ceg23349> kaminix3: Actual school computer with Linux.  They use them for this "Linux for idiots and CS majors" class and some higher internet security stuff
[08:34] <borislav123> ima li hora ot Bulgaria Tuka ?
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> uga, any 32 bit emulation has to be set up by hand linking libraries in many cases
[08:34] <uga> hitmanWilly: uhm, in what sense? you mean proprietary binary-only apps?
[08:35] <hitmanWilly> uga, yes
[08:35] <uga> ok, I run barely no proprietary apps except for bibble pro, myself
[08:35] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Cool. University I take it?
[08:35] <uga> so I guess I could do a few scripts for those if they are troublesome
[08:35] <hitmanWilly> uga, ok, you should be alright then, I love my games, tho
[08:35] <bigleon> Well holy crap, it updated semiokay
[08:35] <bigleon> but my adept manager is gone...
[08:36] <hitmanWilly> uga, which is why i run gentoo on the 64 box...lol
[08:36] <ceg23349> kaminix3: Yeah.  Wright State to be specific.
[08:36] <ScorpKing> bigleon: does it say so at boot?
[08:36] <bigleon> well it's just not there under kmanager
[08:36] <uga> hitmanWilly: oh my, don't make me go back to gentoo. I gave up due to so many conflicts when emerging packages
[08:36] <poison--> how do i had two keyboard layouts]
[08:36] <poison--> this one dont let me use question mark
[08:37] <poison--> lmao
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> uga, yeah, if a gentoo box gets away from you, you can get screwed in a hurry
[08:37] <bigleon> if i type sudo apt-get install firefox is that alright for kubuntu or should i take another approch?
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> uga, kde updates especially are a pain
[08:37] <kaminix3> ceg23349: I see... then it's not so uncommon. I'd love to see Linux on atleast one of our school computers in High School. <3 Thinking of putting live CDs in them when next Kubuntu is released though. Hopefully they won't notice when booting the next day. ^^
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> yes!!! new ATI drivers!!
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> lol
[08:38] <bjwebb_> yay
[08:38] <ScorpKing> bigleon: cli command will work in ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> awesome performance increase!
[08:38] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, we'll see...
[08:38] <bigleon> well it says "firefox-gnome-support" i'm wondering if thats okay for my KDE enviroment
[08:38] <ScorpKing> bigleon: add a 's' :)
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> techincally only for the R600 cards... but guess what R482 me is doing...
[08:38] <bigleon> add an s where?
[08:39] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:39] <uga> hitmanWilly: I used to run both kde3 and 4 from svn, so that wasn't an issue. Then I got tired of maintaining both built by hand and I went for kde3 ebuilds
[08:39] <trzcionek> Hi where can I off adept_notifier ?
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: 900 pages of docs if you don't like them... feel free
[08:39] <ScorpKing> bigleon: nvm. gnome apps will run in kde
[08:39] <bigleon> is there any other good web browsers for kde?
[08:39] <bigleon> cause i don't like Konqueror
[08:39] <ScorpKing> firefox
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> firfox
[08:39] <coreymon77> bigleon: firefox
[08:40] <bigleon> well i'm getting firefox
[08:40] <bigleon> >.<
[08:40] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, heh, well, i have enough trouble with bash and python, so maybe later...lol
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> haha
[08:40] <bigleon> hence "any other"
[08:40] <ScorpKing> opera :)
[08:40] <coreymon77> ew!
[08:40] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:40] <ScorpKing> lmao
[08:41] <ceg23349> kaminix3: rofl, that would be great.  I'd love to see the looks on the kids' faces.  Almost as priceless as the look on the faces of the techs :D
[08:41] <poison--> !keyboard
[08:41] <Ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[08:41] <bigleon> *waves his hand in air* umm how you do the emote thinigy?
[08:41] <keito> anyone know how to get my amarok playing mp3 again, it was working fine until today when an error popped up saying currently cannot play mp3 files
[08:41] <hitmanWilly> like i've said many times before, i've yet to find a browser i really like, just a couple I don't actively hate
[08:41] <mefisto__> opera is not all bad
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> keito: "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[08:42] <bigleon> The big red O in opera scares me
[08:42] <keito> nosrednaekim: already installed?
[08:42] <keito> should i reinstall
[08:42] <coreymon77> bigleon: whats wrong with ff?
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> keito: no... go into settings ->driver in amarok and make sure it is xine
[08:42] <bigleon> sometimes it goes screwy with me and stops loading websites
[08:42] <poison--> wtf.. the url took me to xubuntu help
[08:42] <poison--> lmao
[08:42] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, its a representation of your rectum after using opera for any length of time...
[08:42] <keito> yep it is
[08:42] <bigleon> HitmanWilly, and if you ever seen her show.
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yeah...
[08:43] <bigleon> i think i'd rather watch the view
[08:43] <keito> nosrednaekim: probelsm began after the update (backport)
[08:43] <keito> firstly amaraok crashes my window dec in compiz-fusion quite a bit starting from the brginning of this week
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> opera/oprah...hmmm, interesting conspiracy theory there...
[08:43] <keito> then this happens
[08:44] <keito> note:   libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> keito: hmm
[08:44] <ScorpKing> i thought so! lol
[08:44] <bigleon> They are everywhere hitmanWilly, the goverment is using mind control on me, i must always wear my armadillo helmet... but at anyrate... :D wish me luck on my upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is there anyway i can set a recory point so if my 7.04 update fails i can roll back?
[08:44] <ScorpKing> oops!
[08:45] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Yeah. :D The trouble would be getting them in all PCs though, undetected. But just a few would do anyway. :p
[08:45] <coreymon77> bigleon: there shouldnt be any problems
[08:45] <keito> nosrednaekim: hmm indeed, I already been to #amarok and #ubuntu
[08:45] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Don't think our PC maintainer know you can use livecds even. :p
[08:45] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, backup the drive :P
[08:45] <bigleon> you understand how bad my luck is
[08:45] <keito> no-one seems any the wiser
[08:45] <coreymon77> bigleon: 7.04 is actually way more stable then 6.10
[08:45] <bigleon> heck when i rebooted it didn't the notice to update to 7.04
[08:45] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, or a seperate /home
[08:46] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, and a clean install
[08:46] <astan> gah. it's damn impossible to configure xorg with an external monitor on this laptop (fujitsu siemens amilo si1520, with intel graphics).. anyone know of a good graphical tool to set up xorg? i'm going insane.
[08:46] <bigleon> well how do i update because adept left me :(
[08:46] <keito> this is an internet post related to my problem but it doesn't seem to apply to me or help me either ... http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4171.html
[08:46] <ceg23349> kaminix3: heh... Show them for picking the guy with the 1.2 GPA on his associates' degree...
[08:46] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, adept isn't working?
[08:47] <bigleon> the gui interface is MIA
[08:47] <bigleon> i can't even find link under system
[08:47] <astan> my laptop screen is 1280x800 and my external monitor is 1280x1024.. shouldn't it "just work"?
[08:47] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, well, there's one way, but i'm not sure if it's what you want to do...
[08:47] <keito> nosrednaekim: any ideas?
[08:48] <keito> nosrednaekim : this is an internet post related to my problem but it doesn't seem to apply to me or help me either ... http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4171.html
[08:48] <bigleon> i'm trying apt-get install adept is that an okay idea?
[08:48] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, it'll probably show that its already there
[08:48] <bigleon> it's not
[08:48] <bigleon> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:49] <bigleon>   adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier
[08:49] <bigleon>   adept-updater python-qt3 python-sip4
[08:49] <hitmanWilly> hmmm...before you do that, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:49] <bigleon> i alredy started it XD
[08:50] <hitmanWilly> well, do that after then
[08:50] <ceg23349> Interesting question: what's the command to show an environment variable?  Namely path, but whichever I can find would be nice
[08:50] <bigleon> well could i run that in another terminal window?
[08:50] <bigleon> or would that be a bad idea
[08:50] <hitmanWilly> that'll make sure your 6.10 system is fully updated before you try a full upgrade
[08:50] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, it won't let you
[08:50] <bigleon> Alright
[08:51] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, only one apt process at a time
[08:51] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, that includes adept and synaptic as well
[08:51] <bigleon> and the once i finish up to 7.04 i gotta get my Toshiba Gigabeat to transfer my school work to my PC or i'm boned T_T
[08:52] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, that's a laptop, right?
[08:52] <bigleon> yessiry
[08:52] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, just making sure :)
[08:52] <bigleon> Inspiron E1705
[08:52] <bigleon> Which is a remake of some otherlaptop not sure which XD
[08:52] <bigleon> but shes still nice
[08:53] <hitmanWilly> well, Dell has been getting better lately
[08:53] <bigleon> Yeah noticibly
[08:53] <bigleon> Trust me you talk to me 4 years ago, and i'd say you'd be better off chopping your own ankle than to use a dell.
[08:53] <bigleon> now i recommend dell in most cases
[08:53] <hitmanWilly> at least they're not just a MS shill anymore
[08:54] <hitmanWilly> times, they are a changin'...lol
[08:55] <coreymon77> bigleon: i hope they are the ubuntu dells
[08:55] <coreymon77> bigleon: cause if they werent, id still have to kill you :P
[08:56] <bigleon> Well i didn't hit linux sence until 3 years back
[08:56] <bigleon> but i still used Xp for my video gaming
[08:56] <hitmanWilly> heh, this one is a hitmanWilly special...made by me for me
[08:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:57] <bigleon> Well i customize each of laptops i never buy strait stock
[08:57] <GIn> does Kopete support conversation logging?
[08:57] <GIn> I can't find it any where
[08:57] <hitmanWilly> howdy ubuntu_
[08:58] <ceg23349> ubuntu_ Think you can just come in here with your GNOME-ness...
[08:58] <h4xxor> hi
[08:58] <hitmanWilly> ceg23349, i think the kubu live cd uses that login as well, IIRC
[08:58] <h4xxor> i am usin the live cd
[08:59] <hitmanWilly> h4xxor, never would have guessed...lol
[08:59] <ceg23349> ubuntu_ oh... Well now I just feel dumb... Mostly due to my being dumb
[08:59] <h4xxor> lol
[09:00] <GIn> does Kopete support conversation logging?
[09:01] <hitmanWilly> GIn, not sure...don't usually log IM's
[09:01] <hitmanWilly> GIn, but probably, somewhere, guessing its just burried under some options menu
[09:02] <bigleon> firealarms went off in my college XD
[09:02] <bigleon> they are so loud but i refuse to leave
[09:02] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, heh, wait till they cut the power
[09:02] <GIn> hitmanWilly, I can't find that optiona any where
[09:02] <hitmanWilly> GIn, ok, lemme look right quick
[09:03] <h4xxor> gin what is ur problem exactly
[09:03] <mefisto__> GIn: settings> configure plugins. it's the history plugin. turn it off, apply, then on again, apply
[09:03] <ville_> Hey, tell how to get external harddisk available to my system ? What packages should I download ?
[09:04] <ville_> It is ntfs
[09:04] <poison--> none
[09:04] <poison--> unless u want the hdd to be loaded on boot, and in dat case u need diskmounter
[09:04] <GIn> mefisto__, but where do I view the logs?
[09:05] <ville_> Hmm, i can see it in system setting, but cannot find anyway to browse it.
[09:05] <hitmanWilly> GIn, check in .kde/share
[09:05] <GIn> I thought there is a log viewer for kopete
[09:05] <genii> !ntfs-3g | ville_
[09:05] <Ubotu> ville_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:06] <hitmanWilly> GIn, honestly, i use pidgin usually, so I'm not sure...
[09:06] <ville_> thx ill try that one
[09:07] <ville_> I'll come back later if that help file doesn't help me ;) <- Im sooo newbie with this ;)
[09:07] <astan> hm hm. what's the dpkg (or apt-get?) command to re-configure an already installed package? i'd like to re-configure my xserver..
[09:07] <mefisto__> GIn: if you right-click a user in your list, it should have "history" there somewhere
[09:07] <mefisto__> GIn: "view history"
[09:07] <hitmanWilly> astan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[09:08] <GIn> mefisto__, thanks :-)
[09:08] <hitmanWilly> astan, so in your case, the cmd would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <astan> hitmanWilly: ah. thanks.
[09:09] <urilockz> does stdin still hang out here?
[09:09] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, yeah, why?
[09:09] <urilockz> oh cool, just wandering
[09:09] <urilockz> havent been here for a while
[09:10] <ulver> hi to all
[09:10] <hitmanWilly> howdy, ulver
[09:10] <ulver> hi there
[09:10] <poison--> anyone using linux mce?
[09:11] <ulver> does anyone knows any program for live tv?i have tryied myth tv but it cannot see my tv card....
[09:11] <bigleon> Alright i'm back, they were testing students for response time... my room got F, 2 of the 3 guys in here didn't leave lmao
[09:12] <bigleon> we would so burn in the fire
[09:12] <poison--> ulver? tvtime
[09:13] <ulver> tvtime is a program?
[09:13] <hitmanWilly> ulver, if myth doesn't see it, it's probably a config issue somewhere else
[09:13] <bigleon> I don't
[09:13] <bigleon> I might gget some PHL for my Desktop :D
[09:13] <hitmanWilly> ulver, yes, its an app
[09:13] <poison--> yes ulver
[09:13] <ulver> thanx i will try it
[09:16] <bigleon> Wow my msn protocol is messing up on kopete
[09:16] <ville_> ok I installed ntfs-config, still i cant see my drive anywhere. When I plugin my hardrive kde pop up note screen where u can choose open location, etc. What ever I press allways screen just disappears... any ideas ?
[09:17] <bigleon> Your probbally dealing with a blip there ville
[09:17] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, can you browse in konq to /media
[09:17] <bigleon> i'm not 100 pct sure how to deal in this situation, try a google search to see if others have had same problem, make sure to like include your driver
[09:17] <hitmanWilly> ville_, see if it shows up there
[09:18] <bigleon> i thought he said it was already not popping up?
[09:18] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the browse too isn't working, I just want to see if it's mounting at all
[09:18] <bigleon> Hmm
[09:18] <ville_> Yes, and it is not mounted there
[09:18] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, open up a konsole
[09:18] <bigleon> well it could come up with a pop to ask if you want to mount it eh?
[09:19] <ville_> Only cd -drive
[09:19] <newsense07> !smb
[09:19] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:19] <jussi01> anyone here use sopcast?
[09:19] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the pop up sounds like its coming up, just not doing anything
[09:19] <jussi01> anyone know how to add chnnels to the channel list?
[09:19] <bigleon> jussi01 just curious what is sopcast?
[09:19] <newsense07> !samba
[09:19] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:19] <jussi01> bigleon: its for watch p2p tv
[09:20] <jussi01> !botabuse | newsense07
[09:20] <Ubotu> newsense07: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:20] <bigleon> jussi01 intresting, no i don't use it.
[09:20] <ville_> Annoying... Thing is that it must besomething to do with NTFS bc sticks works normally
[09:20] <hitmanWilly> ville_, what's the device for your ntfs drive
[09:20] <newsense07> jussi01: sorry thanks
[09:20] <hitmanWilly> ville_, this is a flash drive?
[09:20] <bigleon> Pfft i always get write errors with my Geeksticks
[09:20] <jussi01> :)
[09:21] <ville_> Normal buffalo USB-harddisk 80GB
[09:21] <ville_> Nope harddisk
[09:21] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, do you know the device name for it?
[09:21] <ville_> Just a sec, i can find it from the logs, 1min
[09:22] <hitmanWilly> ville_, or fdisk -l should list it
[09:22] <ulver> i download it...(sorry but i am new in this)how can i install it?
[09:22] <ville_> dev/sda1
[09:22] <bigleon> anyone know any good online radio stations that will work on linux? Like my Yahoo Radio won't work cause i don't use IE 8
[09:23] <ville_> And I can see in dev folder aswell.
[09:23] <mefisto__> bigleon: there should be a bunch of them already set up in amarok
[09:23] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in konsole: sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[09:24] <bigleon> mefisto__ thank you
[09:24] <mefisto__> bigleon: under radio streams
[09:24] <hitmanWilly> ville_, pastebin the output of that, please
[09:24] <hitmanWilly> !paste | ville_
[09:24] <Ubotu> ville_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <ulver> does anyone knows how i can install tv time?
[09:25] <bigleon> tv time?
[09:25] <hitmanWilly> ulver, sudo apt-get install tvtime
[09:25] <jussi01> !info tvtime
[09:25] <ville_> Cannot paste, bc im not registered
[09:25] <bobleny> Just a quick question, what happens if I install Kubuntu on a computer that only has 128MB of RAM?
[09:25] <bigleon> then register vile
[09:25] <Ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 678 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[09:26] <ville_> :)
[09:26] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, use pastebin.ca
[09:26] <bigleon> it won't work bobleny
[09:26] <ulver> thanx
[09:26] <bigleon> you need minmal 386 i belive
[09:26] <bobleny> 256MB
[09:26] <hitmanWilly> ville_, they don't require registration IIRC
[09:26] <astan> hrmf anyone in here at all who has a laptop with intel graphics, and who can hook it up to an external monitor with a greater resolution than the built-in monitor?
[09:27] <ville_> Failed to mount '
[09:27] <bigleon> astan it's typically other way around i get 1400x900 on my laptop and 1240X780 on my tv
[09:27] <ville_> dev/sda1 operation not supported
[09:27] <hitmanWilly> ville_, wtf?
[09:27] <mefisto__> bobleny: lots of disk activity, everything will be very slow, but will work
[09:27] <ville_> NTFS LOG FILE is unclean
[09:27] <ville_> Thats the error msg
[09:27] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that's strange...
[09:27] <astan> bigleon: okay, i have 1280x800 on my built-in, and trying to hook up a 1280x1024 external monitor.
[09:28] <ville_> Ye, mayby disk is just meshed up..
[09:28] <ville_> Hmm ill try another drive
[09:28] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that could be it
[09:28] <bigleon> astan: well what you have to do is in your X-server configuration, but i'm not 100pct sure on all details.
[09:28] <ville_> i didnt think about that, bc it is working as it should in my win machine
[09:28] <mefisto__> ville_: seems you need to chkdsk the ntfs partition in windows
[09:28] <bobleny> What command do I use to see the RAM?
[09:28] <astan> bigleon: yea. hmf. i think i've tried everything.. very annyoing.
[09:29] <antluiz> hi
[09:29] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, i think lshw lists amt of ram
[09:29] <antluiz> What should I do to connect the bittorrent?
[09:30] <bigleon> astan I feel your pain man, Back at Votech we spent nearly a week rigging up 4 montiers to one desktop lmao.
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> !bittorrent | antluiz
[09:30] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <astan> i've tried both the xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver, and i've tried Xorg -configure, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> !torrent | antluiz
[09:30] <Ubotu> antluiz: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:30] <astan> bigleon: :/
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> astan, you may need to configure it for a second monitor
[09:31] <bigleon> astan yea it can be a pain, but just read your guides, and eventually it start to work. but you should be able to use genearic mointer drivers
[09:31] <astan> i thought xrandr or whatever it's called would make this eacy..
[09:31] <astan> can't find any guides, only ML posts about people with similar problems.
[09:31] <astan> *easy.
[09:31] <cbtis155> hey alguien abla espaol
[09:31] <hitmanWilly> !dual head
[09:31] <Ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[09:32] <antluiz> eu falo portugues
[09:32] <antluiz> yo able portugues
[09:32] <antluiz> ablo
[09:32] <bigleon> isn't there a channel for Spanish speakers?
[09:32] <antluiz> I am using Ktorrent
[09:32] <hitmanWilly> !es
[09:32] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:32] <astan> e.g. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-November/019871.html
[09:33] <antluiz> but I am not able to connect, or find files
[09:33] <hitmanWilly> antluiz, do you have a firewall or router set up?
[09:33] <poison--> antluiz
[09:33] <bigleon> hitmanWilly, i was wanting to do some major cosmetic tweaks to my KDE envrioment, is there any good resources like "windowblinds" for winXP?
[09:33] <poison--> where r u from?
[09:34] <droach> anyword on bioshock being played in linux yet
[09:34] <poison--> eu falo portugues tb ?D
[09:34] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, check out kde-look.org
[09:34] <bigleon> thank you bunches willy :D
[09:34] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, you don't need any seperate app for kde to do stuff like that
[09:35] <ulver> help again guys!i gave the command sudo apt-get install tvtime and it started to run in the terminal...when it stopped,i wnt to the application and clicked at tvtime....it doesn't open
[09:35] <hitmanWilly> ulver, run tvtime in a konsole and see what errors it pops out
[09:36] <silvio81> Hi
[09:36] <lucky_lucas> hi, what is the name of the battery applet in kubuntu ?
[09:36] <ville_> I managed to mount other drive and it seems to work.
[09:36] <ulver> when you say at console you mean terminal?
[09:36] <ville_> What is the unmounting command
[09:36] <hitmanWilly> ulver, yes
[09:36] <poison--> ulver, maybe ure missing some dependencies
[09:36] <bigleon> hitmanWilly does the stuff like auto install or do i gotta jump through a bunch of hoops to get different themes tow ork?
[09:36] <titanio> hola
[09:36] <mefisto__> ville_: umount
[09:36] <hitmanWilly> ville_, umount <mount/point>
[09:36] <titanio> ville umount
[09:37] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, most of them install via kcontrol/system settings
[09:37] <bigleon> alright.
[09:37] <ulver> it doesn't show any errors,where i can found dependecies
[09:37] <ulver> ?
[09:37] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, but for some you do need to compile them
[09:38] <titanio> alguien que hable espaol?
[09:38] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, most of the more complicated ones come with pretty detailed instructions
[09:38] <poison--> !es
[09:38] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:38] <titanio> gracias
[09:38] <poison--> :D
[09:38] <titanio> domo arigato gosaimas
[09:38] <poison--> only portuguese here
[09:38] <poison--> :D
[09:38] <bigleon> alright
[09:38] <hitmanWilly> ulver, can you pastebin the output of that?
[09:39] <hitmanWilly> !paste | ulver
[09:39] <Ubotu> ulver: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:39] <bigleon> oh a tip for ya Hitmanwilly if you haven't used this already for firefox look into add block plus :D
[09:39] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, well aware of it :)
[09:40] <bigleon> it's a really awesome tool for ridding ur self from irritating ad's
[09:40] <ulver> i cannnot pastebin
[09:40] <bigleon> ^_^ my friends love me for sharing it lmao
[09:40] <mefisto__> and there's adblock plus element hiding now too!
[09:41] <mefisto__> adblock plus element hiding helper
[09:41] <ville_> I cannot understand this. Now I re-plugged other disk and now mounting command says cannot mount file exists...
[09:41] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, what do you think are the first 2 things i install on my windows friends computers when they ask me to fix them ;)
[09:41] <bigleon> Rofl
[09:41] <bigleon> speaking of which what is this element hider mefisto?
[09:41] <ville_> In teh media folder I can see now sda1, but it is empty
[09:41] <bigleon> the fun mean thing with Adblock is to go on my friends computer and "Block" flash log in screens for their websites lmao :P
[09:41] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that's the mount point
[09:42] <hitmanWilly> ville_, it'll be empty until you mount something there
[09:42] <mefisto__> bigleon: go to mozilla addons and find it. it's an adblock plus extra. I just discovered it myself
[09:42] <frankpreel> x
[09:42] <ville_> ok now if i repeat that command u gave to mount drive, it says "file exist" cannot mount
[09:42] <Greenery> when i right clicking in Firefox and Konqueror, the response are slow. Any reason why?
[09:43] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ? did you unmount the last drive you plugged in?
[09:43] <bigleon> no i mean what does it do mefisto?
[09:43] <ville_> it is same #2 drive
[09:43] <ville_> It worked allready and i unplugged it
[09:44] <hitmanWilly> ville_, you have to unmount before you unplug
[09:44] <ville_> Ok now i unmount
[09:44] <hitmanWilly> ville_, its like safe remove
[09:44] <ville_> i understand that
[09:44] <ville_> And try to do it ;)
[09:44] <mefisto__> bigleon: it lets you choose parts of a webpage to remove, unwanted text, for example
[09:44] <hitmanWilly> ok
[09:44] <bigleon> oh like if you were senstive type you could remove curse words?
[09:44] <ville_> i used "sudo u"mount /dev/sda1
[09:45] <ville_> i used "sudo "mount /dev/sda1"
[09:45] <ville_> i used "sudo "umount /dev/sda1"
[09:45] <ville_> dam;)
[09:45] <bigleon> see thats uneseccary for me, typically i get irritated with censorship XD
[09:45] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, that should work
[09:45] <bigleon> anyone ever use the program "poltergiest"?
[09:45] <hitmanWilly> heh, im waiting for a search/replace
[09:45] <ville_> ok now it says no media connected
[09:46] <dcorbin_work> When I do "apt-get update" I get W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:46] <dcorbin_work> word: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:46] <ville_> But /dev/sda1 still exists in the directory
[09:46] <bigleon> whats your problem then dcorbin_work?
[09:46] <mefisto__> bigleon: best to find it on mozilla addons than rely on my interpretation. better yet, install it and play around with it
[09:47] <hitmanWilly> ville_, the dir will exist, linux needs a place to put mounted drives
[09:47] <bigleon> yup i'll be doing that after i finish with my themes
[09:47] <ville_> ok
[09:47] <dcorbin_work> bigleon: It suggest I do "apt-get update" to fix it, which is what I was doing in the first place.
[09:47] <terrestre> hi all, in ubuntu, i can just type ssh://ip in nautilus to see a remote pc, i can do that in konqueror? cause i did and a konsole pop up
[09:47] <dcorbin_work> I don't know how to make the problem go away.
[09:47] <ville_> ok now i plug drive in
[09:47] <hitmanWilly> ville_, this one kde should auto mount
[09:48] <bigleon> dcorbin_work i was having a problem similar to yours, i rebooted and try the apt-get update and it fixxed the issue
[09:48] <dcorbin_work> biglean: reboot linux? Argh! :) OK.  I'll give it a try.
[09:48] <hitmanWilly> ville_, assuming it's a working one
[09:48] <ville_> yes it is ;)
[09:49] <ville_> now it is plugged and running, but nothing
[09:49] <hitmanWilly> ville_, kde can sometimes auto mount stuff, but its kind of iffy sometimes
[09:49] <gbw> hello, how can i watch tv with kaffeine, 2 channels on one time?
[09:49] <bigleon> dcorbin_work yeah
[09:49] <ville_> Ill try to mount it again with that command u gave me
[09:50] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, open up a konsole
[09:50] <bigleon> hitmanWilly, question how do i set up my theme again XD i forgot what you said ealier
[09:50] <ville_> Still it says "file exists"
[09:50] <ville_> cannot mount
[09:51] <bigleon> ville_ if you don't got files on there, why don't use an xp computer and fdisk to raw format then bring to linux machien and let it format it..
[09:51] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, alt-f2, kcontrol, its under appearance IIRC
[09:51] <gbw> or, maybe any other software i can use to watch 2 channels on same time?
[09:51] <ville_> I have files there and i saw those allready bf i unplugged ikt
[09:51] <ville_> *it
[09:51] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, is the drive unplugged?
[09:51] <mimo> hello
[09:51] <ville_> now, no
[09:52] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, unmount and unplug
[09:52] <blender_gto> help, I cant konect whit my yahoo account whit Kopete or Pidgin, helpme please
[09:52] <ville_> k
[09:52] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in a konsole, sudo rm -rf /media/sda1
[09:52] <adac> hi! where can i set my monitor resolution?
[09:53] <bigleon> O_o well that err went umm
[09:53] <bigleon> bad
[09:53] <ville_> And now its working again
[09:53] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, i know what the problem is
[09:54] <ville_> Do I have to do it everytime i plug/unplug it
[09:54] <hitmanWilly> ville_, no, im going to help you set it up so you don't
[09:54] <mimo> adac: i guess in the kcontrolcenter
[09:54] <ville_> nice ;)
[09:54] <mimo> if you are using kde :)
[09:54] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in a konsole sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[09:55] <hitmanWilly> ville_, actually, try usbhd
[09:55] <ville_> ok, done
[09:55] <hitmanWilly> ville_, usbdrive or usbhd?
[09:56] <ville_> both, lets use hd
[09:56] <MarcC> how do I force-load a DVD that won't mount properly?  My soundcard is Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:59] <hitmanWilly> /dev/sda1 /media/usbhd ntfs-3g defaults,noauto 0 1
[09:59] <mefisto__> or "System Settings" in the Kmenu (if you want to change screen resolution)
[09:59] <ville_> ok
[09:59] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, save and exit
[09:59] <ville_> k
[10:00] <hitmanWilly> ville_, now, plug in the usb hd and see if it mounts
[10:01] <mrksbrd> what is the command for editing your fstab using kate???
[10:01] <ville_> hehe, kde crashed ;)
[10:01] <hitmanWilly> oh boy, ok...
[10:01] <hitmanWilly> mrksbrd, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> backup your existing fstab first. is a good idea.
[10:02] <mrksbrd> ty...couldn't remember the fist part
[10:02] <ville_> I think ntfs-config was reason for the crash
[10:02] <hitmanWilly> mrksbrd, kdesu for gui stuff, sudo for cmd line stuff
[10:02] <ville_> it loads much slower than earlier
[10:02] <mefisto__> sudoedit also works, as in sudoedit /somefile
[10:03] <ville_> Both mount points are empty
[10:03] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, try removing ntfs-config, i don't think you need it anyway, IIRC
[10:03] <ville_> k
[10:03] <greencookie> Hi fellas
[10:03] <ville_> is there ntfs support in feisty in-build+
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-comfig shouldent be affecting kde at all.
[10:03] <hitmanWilly> ville_, read only
[10:04] <greencookie> ville_: I can access my xp partition if thats what you mean.
[10:04] <hitmanWilly> ville_, but the ntfs-3g pkg puts the read/write driver in place
[10:04] <ville_> k
[10:04] <ville_> ntfs-config is uninstalled now
[10:04] <greencookie> Hey anyone know how I can check which driver I'm using for my wireless usb?
[10:05] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, unplug and replug the usb drive
[10:05] <jhutchins> greencookie: sudo lsmod
[10:05] <Greenery> my ntfs HD keeps changing between sda5 and sdc5 everytime i reboot. How to make it stick to one?
[10:05] <ville_> ;)
[10:05] <jhutchins> Greenery: Use uuid instead.
[10:05] <greencookie> jhutchins: k thanks.. also how do i open terminal? any shortcut keys?:D
[10:05] <Greenery> how do i do that?
[10:06] <jhutchins> greencookie: I don't think there's a universal shortcut.
[10:06] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, let me know if it crashes again
[10:06] <jhutchins> !uuid | Greenery
[10:06] <ville_> nope
[10:06] <Ubotu> Greenery: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:06] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, is it mounted?
[10:06] <ville_> But is empty again ;)
[10:06] <poison--> did some serious shit here... all my ntfs HDDS look empty for me
[10:06] <poison--> lmao
[10:07] <greencookie> jhutchins: ok. Found one tho. Ctrl+alt+f1
[10:07] <poison--> but they arent, in windows i can see everitin in it
[10:07] <greencookie> and sudo lsmod didnt do anything for me.
[10:07] <ville_> I re-mounted and now its working
[10:07] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in a konsole, sudo mount /media/usbhd
[10:07] <ville_> Actually it is sda1 now ;)
[10:08] <jhutchins> greencookie: You have to log in on the tty consoles.
[10:08] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, well then that works, make sure you can read and write to it
[10:08] <ville_> ill unmount and mount it to usbhd just a sec
[10:08] <greencookie> jhutchins: k. btw can you tell me what tty stands for? just curious. noob here.
[10:09] <hitmanWilly> ville_, actually, i left something out of the fstab file so you can mount without sudo
[10:09] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly, ville_: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/110210 and see the bottom of the page
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> tty - old term for ascii terminals. :)
[10:09] <ville_> Ok immediatly when it is once mounted it starts to whine about that "file exist", cannot mount
[10:09] <greencookie> Dr_Willis: Thanks:)
[10:09] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__, i thought i smelled a hal bug...
[10:09] <Dr_Willis>  look at /dev/tty## some time.
[10:09] <jhutchins> greencookie: TeleTYpe
[10:09] <greencookie> Dr_Willis: thnx I will.
[10:10] <ville_> so if i remove entries from /media folder mounting is succesful
[10:10] <greencookie> ok lsmod shows me a list of modules. Q: Are modules the drivers that my hardware is currently using?
[10:10] <jhutchins> greencookie: essentially.
[10:10] <hitmanWilly> ville_, it has to do with kde's automounting program (hal)
[10:10] <ville_> jes
[10:11] <greencookie> Hmm. Anyway to distinguish which module is used by my Netgear111 wireless usb adapter?
[10:11] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:11] <ville_> if i try to gui "safe to remove" button ill get:
[10:11] <hitmanWilly> ville_, im just going to have you set back the defaults and it should work like it did before
[10:11] <mrksbrd> who is the one trying to use a usb HDD?????????
[10:12] <ville_> device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by hal
[10:12] <mefisto__> mrksbrd: that would be ville_
[10:12] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, is fstab open?
[10:12] <mrksbrd> what file system??
[10:12] <mefisto__> ntfs
[10:12] <ville_> open
[10:12] <greencookie> Can someone advise me about my network problem?
[10:12] <ville_> yes ntfs
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, put a # in front of the line i just had you add
[10:13] <ville_> so we ignore it
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> ville_, yup
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> ville_, wasn't sure if you knew about comments :)
[10:13] <mrksbrd> ville, have u tried automatix, they have an option in there for fat32 & ntfs, it configures your fstab automatically......found this much easier than editing the fstab yourself
[10:14] <jhutchins> !automatix
[10:14] <Ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:14] <hitmanWilly> automatix bad!!!
[10:14] <greencookie> My internet keeps freezing/locking up after around 5-15 minutes of connection. Could that be a problem with my wireless adapter driver?
[10:14] <ville_> Is hal in here aswell hardware abstraction layer ?
[10:14] <greencookie> !ndiswrapper
[10:14] <Ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:14] <mefisto__> mrksbrd: just working around a bug, just about done
[10:14] <hitmanWilly> ville_, no, not in that file
[10:15] <mrksbrd> hitman...not for this, believe me i was pulling my hair out(whats left) this fixed it right away.....just a suggestion!!!
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> QNX has announced that effective immediately, the company will open the source code to its QNX embedded, RTOS, microkernel operating system
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> thats nifty News.. Wonder what license they are using...
[10:15] <ville_> I ment is it rly kde who handles mounting?
[10:15] <hitmanWilly> ville_, the drives were auto mounting before, correct?
[10:15] <ville_> Nope. only flash drives. got problems with ext. harddrives
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> ville_, no, its hal that handles automounting of drives
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> ville_, and fstab/mount that handles manual mounting
[10:16] <ville_> Yes, but i assume it must be in a kernel ?
[10:16] <ville_> k
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> ville_, yes, but on a kubuntu system it comes by default
[10:16] <ville_> ok
[10:17] <ville_> Thing is with a filesystems, bc fat drivers work nicely
[10:17] <ville_> *drives
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that's because there's a more stable kernel driver already in place for them
[10:18] <ville_> ahh
[10:18] <greencookie> !lspci
[10:18] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> ville_, there's a ntfs driver in the kernel as well, but its a read only
[10:19] <hitmanWilly> ntfs-3g is the read write driver, but its been known to have some stability issues
[10:19] <ville_> yeah, thats what i have read
[10:19] <greencookie> !amarok
[10:19] <Ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[10:20] <hitmanWilly> ville_, anyway, see if that works for you...with the working ntfs drive
[10:20] <greencookie> !fiesty
[10:20] <Ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:21] <ville_> this drive works, but i have to remove all entries from media folder and mount it again everytime ;)
[10:21] <ville_> If there is any old entries left it wont mount correctly
[10:22] <ville_> Anyway thx for the help. Now i even now how to access it ;)
[10:22] <hitmanWilly> ville_, well, at least there's that much :)
[10:22] <ville_> yes, that was a big help.   When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:28] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__, nope, but then again my experience with ntfs is severely limited
[10:28] <newsense07> bigleon:check out the link i sent ya, pretty nice dark theme, im using it
[10:29] <bigleon> Lmao i just grabbed that on website
[10:29] <bigleon> like 10 minutes before you linked me
[10:29] <bigleon> i might have to find some stuff to alternate it. a bit.
[10:30] <bigleon> I love setting something to defualt as the screen like "morphs"
[10:30] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly: basically, the trick was to mount with ntfs-3g, then right-click, properties, and uncheck "mount as user". ville_, you might want to try that
[10:31] <ville_> ok ill try that one
[10:32] <flake> what's a good server monitoring gui for apache
[10:32] <flake> to see like so many unique visitors, hits, performance, etc
[10:32] <ville_> Funny thing is that i removed all entries from media folder and stil system setting->advanced->disk and etc, shows that the drive is still connected
[10:33] <flake> ville_  sounds like you are trying to remove it - have you tried unmounting
[10:33] <terrestre> hi all, in ubuntu, i can just type ssh://ip in nautilus to see a remote pc, i can do that in konqueror? cause i did and a konsole pop up
[10:33] <ville_> yes no any sda left
[10:34] <astan> anyone know what the difference between xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 is?
[10:34] <ville_> hmm, mayby it get that data from fstabs even it is comment marked
[10:35] <mefisto__> terrestre: I think in konqueror you can type remote:/
[10:35] <ville_> Hmm, mayby problem is somewhere else. Where heck that program discover, that sda1 is still valid
[10:36] <lnx_> what is the command to run "kcontrol-autostart"
[10:36] <bigleon> They are different drivers astan
[10:40] <mefisto__> ville_: I would avoid using the gui for disks. It always screws things up for me. Better to view/edit fstab directly
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Yep. learning how/what/where to edit the fstab manually is a Good skill to gain.
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, just to show you how my system is set up...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=66176
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, this is my gentoo box but it should be doable under any kde
[10:43] <vlt> Hello. Does anyone know a "replace in multiple files" tool that asks me for each substitution? (sed and kate seem to lack such function)
[10:43] <ville_> yes so it seems t odo ;)
[10:43] <kaminix|benkyou> Is there anything saying I should not go with ext3 on my new 500GB external?
[10:43] <terrestre> mefisto__: no, it doesnt work, but thanks
[10:43] <terrestre> drif: hi
[10:44] <bigleon> pretty
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> kaminix|benkyou, ext3 is probably the most supported filesystem on nix, but you can set it up for whatever you want
[10:44] <bigleon> i like that, think you can help me set that up on kubuntu?
[10:45] <kaminix|benkyou> I know. But I just did fsck and noticed "wow, no non-contagious poo. Wonder if it'll stay that way with some other FS"
[10:45] <mefisto__> terrestre: if it's samba, type smb:/ in konqueror
[10:45] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yeah, probably :) the best way is to play around with it until you find a setup you like
[10:46] <ThePianoGuy> hi guys
[10:46] <bigleon> soto get like special buttons and stuff do i need widgets
[10:46] <terrestre> mefisto__: yeah i know samba, but it's ssh
[10:46] <ThePianoGuy> anyone succeeded in running macosx under ubuntu using vmware, qemu, virtualbox, bochs or any other emulators?
[10:46] <bigleon> sorry i know my Win XP, but when it comes to theming linux i'm a little loss
[10:47] <terrestre> nice theme
[10:47] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the buttons are just regular icons, my taskbar is fully transparent, and the big gentoo button is done through kbfx
[10:48] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the window stuff is just done through themeing
[10:48] <bigleon> alright, well i guess i'll go play with it and hope to dear god i don't crash it
[10:48] <hitmanWilly> lol
[10:48] <mefisto__> terrestre: try sftp://user@host
[10:48] <bigleon> hey hitman you got an msn or yim or aim
[10:49] <bigleon> i'd like to add ya
[10:49] <lnx_> someone if i can set kaffeine plugin for firefox to play the video embedded and not external ?
[10:49] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yeah, hitmanWilly on yahoo
[10:50] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i may be switching to google here soon, tho...
[10:50] <terrestre> hey mefisto__ thanks, that work but, that is sftp, not ssh, nautilus support ssh, but that work too, thanks
[10:50] <bigleon> yeah i got google :D
[10:50] <bigleon> i need to add  a gtalk to my kopete but i'll do that after i finish themeing
[10:50] <hitmanWilly> ok :), actually, i needed to do that anyway...
[10:51] <mefisto__> lnx_: there's an mplayer plugin for firefox that embeds video
[10:52] <bigleon> hey quick question hitman, is ther a quick way to set my comp up to a 1400X900 res
[10:52] <lnx_> mefisto__ , i know , its doesnt work well for me , not mplayer and not the plugin
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, not quick, but possible
[10:53] <bigleon> mind walking me through it?
[10:53] <kkathman> greetings :)
[10:53] <bigleon> i belive it has to do with the Xserver config
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:54] <bigleon> i need pastebin link, i'll go open the file
[10:54] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, does the capitalization matter for vorbis comments or not? Some seem to write ARTIST, some artist and some Artist
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, pastebin.ca
[10:55] <terrestre> its very easy editint xorg.conf :)
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> terrestre, not for XP folks :P
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> terrestre, but for those of us who grew up on slackware, yes...
[10:56] <terrestre> until the last year i was a XP folks ;)
[10:56] <hitmanWilly> terrestre, heh, lol
[10:56] <bigleon> http://pastebin.ca/694537
[10:56] <kaminix|benkyou> How can I add a lable to an USB drive so that it will always be mounted with the same folder/name?
[10:57] <mefisto__> lnx_: have you tried the vlc plugin? It doesn't work for me, but it might be worth trying
[10:58] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, you see down around line 139...the res's that are listed...
[10:58] <terrestre> this laptop connect to internet throw a pc, the pc is my gateway. but my ip is the same like the pc, i just cant get in the laptop throw ssh because my ip is the pc ip. and idea?
[10:58] <bigleon> yup
[10:59] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, add in the res in the exact same format you see listed there, for all the color depths you want it at
[10:59] <bigleon> depth 32 and add "1400X900"
[10:59] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i'd suggest sticking with 24
[10:59] <bigleon> or should i stay with 24
[10:59] <bigleon> Okayy
[10:59] <bigleon> lol
[10:59] <lnx_> mefisto__ , what is the package name ?
[10:59] <ubuntu> test
[10:59] <dangaio> hello. I want to customize my kubuntu laptop. Is there any "howtos" to create your own personal splash screen like the kubuntu one?
[11:00] <ryon420> ok
[11:00] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, 32 bit color really doesn't look any different and it can cause problems with compositing
[11:00] <bigleon> alright
[11:00] <ryon420> whats up everyone?
[11:01] <mefisto__> lnx_: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:01] <ryon420> i saw that movie; it wasnt bad
[11:01] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, save and exit, then restart X
[11:02] <mefisto__> lnx_: there's also totem-mozilla, if the vlc one doesn't work out for you
[11:02] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, you need to use sudo or kdesu to edit that file
[11:03] <lnx_> mefisto__ , but kaffeine cant be embeded somehow ?
[11:04] <mefisto__> lnx_: not as far as I know. If I knew how I would be using it too :)
[11:04] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, not that i know of...i've had the best luck with the mplayer plugin
[11:04] <bigleon> gotta remeber where i change the res at now lol
[11:04] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, line 139 or so
[11:05] <bigleon> i changed it i ment actually change it lol
[11:05] <bigleon> like to use that setting
[11:05] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, its down near the end of the file, you'll recoignize it when you see it
[11:05] <bigleon> alright
[11:05] <hitmanWilly> 1680x1050 here
[11:06] <bigleon> meh on xp my laptop only supported 1400X900 so i'll stick with that
[11:06] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, btw do you have the binary drivers installed?
[11:06] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i mean for your vid card?
[11:06] <bigleon> If it didn't come with my update then no
[11:07] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, im not sure if the open ati drivers will support that res...
[11:07] <bigleon> hmm
[11:07] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, but worst case it just dumps you back into 1024x768
[11:08] <bigleon> what button do i hit to change res? after editing file
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i use nvidia here, so im not sure about ati's various quirks
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, it should jump to the first one in the list
[11:08] <bigleon> it didn't do anything after saving the file
[11:08] <urilockz> am I able to put KDE 4 beta onto my system?
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, you have to restart X for the changes to take effect, ie log out and back in
[11:08] <lnx_> Totem is perfect !
[11:09] <vge> quick unix question, how i list users that belong to sertain group?
[11:09] <bigleon> Oh i'm dling at the moment so i'll have to wait
[11:09] <urilockz> i dont want to try and break my system
[11:09] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok
[11:09] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, you can install it side by side with your current kde
[11:09] <urilockz> sweet
[11:10] <urilockz> is it only for gutsy?
[11:10] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, i think there's a backport
[11:10] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, but its still very beta, so be warned
[11:11] <urilockz> is there a way to get tribe 5 without the cd, fro mmy terminal or something?
[11:11] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, that i don't know...
[11:11] <urilockz> ok il try googling i guess
[11:12] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, it may be that it comes automatically when you update a gutsy install
[11:12] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, not sure how buntu runs betas
[11:12] <bigleon> got google talk to work i think lmao
[11:12] <urilockz> my cd drive is broken, so i cant get the cd and get gutsy. f
[11:13] <claydoh> urilockz: and hitmanWilly yes, running updates in gutsy will get you the latest, even newer than the last tribe release
[11:13] <mneptok> urilockz: you can dist-upgrade
[11:13] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, heh, mines up, try hitmanWilly38351
[11:14] <bigleon> hmm getting  a werid error
[11:14] <hitmanWilly> ?
[11:14] <urilockz> oh?
[11:14] <bigleon> how did you set up gmail, i read a thing said to do it over Jabber
[11:14] <bigleon> i don't think i did it right
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i just hit the little create account button on the googletalk website
[11:15] <manchicken> Does compiz and/or beryl require xgl versus X?
[11:15] <bigleon> i got a account already on google
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ah, k
[11:15] <bigleon> i'm talking about setting it up kopete
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, pidgin here :)
[11:15] <bigleon> I miss my pidgin
[11:15] <bigleon> i should go get it again
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, so reinstall it
[11:16] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i think it's still gaim in the repos, tho
[11:16] <bigleon> it is gaim
[11:16] <hitmanWilly> i think the pidgin website has a deb for it
[11:16] <claydoh> urilockz: you can also upgrade from past versions (feisty, etc) from a gui: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4
[11:17] <bigleon> pidgin was orginally gaim,
[11:17] <claydoh> woah long url
[11:17] <R> Can anyone tell how to change my resolution? I have a 22 inch wide LCD and I need to set it at 1680x1050 resolution and 60Hz refresh rate. I edited the xorg.conf file and restarted the computer but still the resolution hasn't changed from 1024x768. Pls help !!!
[11:17] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yes, but if you want the actual pidgin versions, you still have to download from the site IIRC
[11:17] <urilockz> nevermind, i have found these backports
[11:17] <bigleon> R your card does support new res
[11:17] <R> yes
[11:18] <R> it's a GeForce 7600GS
[11:18] <hitmanWilly> R, are you using the proprietary drivers?
[11:18] <bigleon> I mean your drivers XD
[11:18] <R> i don't think i've installed them
[11:18] <vge> !pastebin
[11:18] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:18] <R> i've just installed Kubuntu a half hour ago
[11:18] <hitmanWilly> !nvidia | R
[11:18] <Ubotu> R: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <hitmanWilly> R i don't think that the open source one goes that high
[11:19] <elite101> hey!!
[11:19] <elite101> im back after my vacation @ school :P
[11:19] <hitmanWilly> howdy elite101
[11:20] <elite101> lol hey
[11:20] <manchicken> !effects
[11:20] <Ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[11:20] <elite101> mhm im getting a new pc rite now my computer fell and the circuir board (MOBO) go wrecked so im at the library
[11:21] <elite101> it was only a p3 anyways but now i have no computer rite now
[11:21] <vge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37265/ <-- someone can help me with simplest of htaccess, it just dont seem to work :/
[11:21] <hitmanWilly> elite101, they have irc at your library? nice...
[11:21] <R> I also tried Ubuntu last week and the NVidia drivers installed as part of the update and after editing xorg.conf, i had the right resolution but a slightly lower refresh rate
[11:22] <hitmanWilly> R, yeah, that's fixable, but its a pain
[11:22] <elite101> no
[11:22] <elite101> its online IRC
[11:22] <bigleon> you will between 20 and 60 hehe
[11:22] <R> brb, gotta restart, finished installing Kubuntu updates, all 115 of them :)
[11:23] <elite101> they have Doucore dells optiplexs here :D
[11:23] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, well, duh...lol
[11:23] <elite101> but i have on question thou
[11:23] <bigleon> i wanted to give my 2 cents
[11:23] <elite101> i check on the computers ram it says: 0.99gb what does that mean?
[11:23] <hitmanWilly> elite101, 1 gb of ram
[11:23] <elite101> why does it says 0.99gb of ram (its running windows pro)
[11:23] <elite101> ah ic
[11:24] <elite101> thought so but i dont see why they couldnt have it as 1Gb of ram?
[11:24] <hitmanWilly> elite101, 1 byte = 1024 bits, extrapolate from there
[11:24] <elite101> ahh i know but they round it out
[11:25] <elite101> 1024x100,000,000
[11:25] <elite101> i think*
[11:25] <hitmanWilly> yes, but to a hw manufacturer, 1kb=1000b, not 1024
[11:26] <hitmanWilly> so the package will say 1gb of ram, but in reality, the machine reports it as less than that
[11:27] <elite101> mhm i emailed the school board asking: i came across eastdale secondary school and couldnt help to see there was no opensource software or distro's installed on the computers? i wonder to my self why? is it because we live in a M$ world? i asked the school board to see if they could install it i mean it is "cheaper/virus free/good programs"
[11:27] <BluesKaj> yup. free -m shows 946mb total
[11:27] <elite101> i said something like that yesterday i didnt get a reply yet
[11:27] <uga> hitmanWilly: remember... now, given iso ... 1kB=1000B, 1kiB=1024B
[11:28] <hitmanWilly> uga, well, yeah...show off :P
[11:28] <hitmanWilly> elite101, ok, the reply will be...huh?
[11:28] <uga> hitmanWilly: I only meant they are in their own right to do that now ;)
[11:28] <elite101> lol
[11:28] <elite101> i didnt get one yet
[11:29] <BluesKaj> linux ..what is that ..a computer program ?
[11:29] <elite101> hopefully he consider's it i have 2 Kubuntu livecd's in my binder @ school :P
[11:29] <ScorpKing> elite101: some of the schools i talked to made it clear that they need MS Word and OpenOffice is not a good enough replacement. i think they should just read the manuals.
[11:30] <elite101> mhm i asked them i mean they do have office programs/pdf viewers in Kubuntu? mhm it would be cheaper
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> well, ms word costs more, so it must be better XD
[11:30] <elite101> well not cheaper *no cost*
[11:30] <ScorpKing> there is one school with about 20 computers that only use linux. :D
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> $200 > $0, therefore, costs more...lol
[11:31] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:31] <elite101> lol
[11:31] <BluesKaj> elite101, the edus=cators don't care about taxpayer's money, they're constantly try ing to figure out how to overspend their budget so  it will be increasd the next fiscal year.
[11:31] <elite101> yeah probably
[11:31] <hitmanWilly> ms software is a good way to do that
[11:32] <hitmanWilly> overspend, anyway
[11:32] <elite101> well i mean they have some p3's in the school old white optiplex's they run about 333mhz-1Ghz i could run it on them since they use a windows server with the HDD's for each student
[11:32] <BluesKaj> they're on the BS bandwagon more than most bureacracies
[11:32] <elite101> on the newer pc's they use the server thing
[11:33] <hitmanWilly> elite101, pop one of those live-cd's into the library comp, see what happens...lol
[11:33] <rustalot> my sound isn't working
[11:33] <elite101> but the whole school is networked with windows so that when you sign in as a Student ex. JhonD and then for password Jhond you sign in on your personal HDD on a server
[11:33] <elite101> can kubuntu work like that?
[11:34] <ScorpKing> sure. edubuntu
[11:34] <hitmanWilly> elite101, with samba, maybe
[11:34] <elite101> i wonder but the Server HDD's are networked and there prob .NTFS so that shouldnt be a prob
[11:34] <lnx_>  someone know how to get mozilla-totem to be full screen ?
[11:34] <hitmanWilly> elite101, or if the whole system is set up with nix, it'd be even easier, mount everything with nfs
[11:34] <uga> elite101: we had that on sun solaris, through ntfs
[11:34] <ScorpKing> nfsmount all home directories over the network.
[11:34] <elite101> but just the signing in like you sign in befor you go into windows
[11:34] <kiosk> my apt-get is broke :)
[11:35] <uga> elite101: sorry, not ntfs, NFS, obviously =) you should be able to set up every /home drive as an nfs one?
[11:35] <uga> as simple as that
[11:35] <astan> bleh. now i got Xorg to crash trying to configure xinerama.. hmf.-
[11:35] <elite101> when you sign into the network you sign in @ a log-on screen on windows befor you even load windows* the windwos is installed on the HDD but you cant do anything to that drive once you restart all changes will be back to normal same at the library
[11:36] <urilockz> Jesus, KDE is big!
[11:36] <elite101> :D
[11:36] <ScorpKing> elite101: ltsp thinclients is an example of mutliple computers using one storage device.
[11:37] <elite101> yeah like that but there is 2drives (One network on internal) windows is on that drive thats inside the computer the *docuements/word/office* that stuff you type gets saved in the Server wich runs all over the school as long as u have a SChool pc hooked up you can access the server anywhere around the school
[11:37] <uga> elite101: if you read "start windows" similar to "start kde", should be same thing
[11:38] <elite101> hm but when you sign in i dont sign into the windows drive thats on the computer but i load up my personal drive thats in the server
[11:38] <urilockz> woah 657mb
[11:38] <uga> elite101: uh? you mean authentication is per-machine? not centralised?
[11:38] <elite101> like when someone use;s that computer it will be the same but it wont have my stuff on it anymore it will be what they did
[11:38] <ScorpKing> lol. that should not be to much trouble with a few scripts.
[11:39] <elite101> you see they dont expect "us" students to do anything but if i know how to screw things up i could ruin there whole system but i wouldnt thou just saying*
[11:39] <ScorpKing> :)
[11:39] <elite101> they think where "dumb" idont know i dont think they know what "linux" is :D
[11:40] <ScorpKing> haha
[11:41] <elite101> i just wanna know if i can install Kubuntu and then i could go into my server but i think the server HDD's are NTFS so it would be a task because i can go into kubuntu Mount the NTFS drive(s) in the server restart and then log-in as My user/pass?
[11:41] <urilockz> i remember in primary school when me and my friend were set at the projector computer, we were on a malicious website of dead people and ew, then the teacher unknowingly put the projector on :D
[11:41] <elite101> but i dont think i can do that since its with MS and all i would need more info on how its setup
[11:41] <elite101> LOL
[11:41] <elite101> :P
[11:42] <elite101> well the library is gay*/Dumb*/stupid* i have a 60min timer im @ 19mins :(
[11:42] <elite101> your only aloud 60mins a day*
[11:42] <urilockz> are you banned from anything and everything?
[11:42] <elite101> no
[11:43] <urilockz> as in from the internet
[11:43] <elite101> i dont have my computer*
[11:43] <elite101> its broken
[11:43] <urilockz> i mean in the library or wherever you are at
[11:43] <elite101> no its only @ 60mins aday for everyone
[11:43] <hitmanWilly> elite101, set the clock back...heh
[11:43] <elite101> its a sing in screen you sign in your Lib card and a Pin#
[11:43] <elite101> lol u cant
[11:44] <elite101> its with PC reservation is the program
[11:44] <urilockz> at my school im allowed whenever but teachers etc look at my screen through their admin pc :/
[11:44] <hitmanWilly> elite101, wanna bet :P
[11:44] <rixxon> How can I remove everything that got installed by ubuntu-desktop?
[11:44] <kiosk> \leave
[11:44] <elite101> i use to run keylogger and get peoples Libcard/MSN/Myspace pass but thats frowned apon*
[11:44] <urilockz> hhaahah
[11:44] <hitmanWilly> strange about that
[11:44] <kiosk> can never remember which slash it is LOL
[11:45] <hitmanWilly> elite101, do they have cd drives?
[11:45] <uga> rixxon: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hda
[11:45] <elite101> urilock, download firefox the program they use is Netsupport school pro i can use firefox the program only monitors IE lol me and my friends do it all the time
[11:45] <elite101> yeah
[11:45] <elite101> they do
[11:45] <elite101> bios=pass
[11:45] <elite101> they would no
[11:45] <rixxon> uga: i don't think so
[11:45] <urilockz> i cannot download .exe files
[11:45] <urilockz> and they will watch me
[11:45] <elite101> ahh
[11:45] <urilockz> yeah
[11:45] <elite101> :(
[11:45] <elite101> lol
[11:46] <elite101> i have it preinstalled on my Server drive same with Halo1demo :D