[00:00] <Arpad2> Dr_Willis: it works with the new user
[00:00] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: its mcmyadmin how can i reinstall it?
[00:00] <z1haze> i found an install page
[00:00] <z1haze> but how do i uninstall it
[00:01] <adamdicarlo> hitsujiTMO, not sure how to know exactly which version of libgmp is needed (debian/control is just "libgmp3-dev") .  nor how to figure where it's looking for it..
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: back up your world. pull it off the server to some nice backup place and follow the instructions on mcmyadmin
[00:01] <z1haze> already done
[00:01] <z1haze> what instructions?
[00:01] <z1haze> theres only instructions to install it
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: on the mcmyadmin website. z1haze. yes. reinstall it.
[00:02] <z1haze> so i dont have to remove the old one is what im asking? sorry if it sound stpuid
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: follow the instructions in reverse to uninstall the original. then reinstall
[00:04] <loganrun> does anyone have any clue how I set up video on ubuntu
[00:04] <z1haze> how do i update my java?
[00:04] <z1haze> well update everything for that matter
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: how did you install it?
[00:04] <z1haze> i didnt
[00:04] <loganrun> seems like the video drivers are gone and it just boots in some 640x480 mode and complains about stored configuration for monitors
[00:04] <z1haze> friend lets me use this box
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> loganrun, Are you having a problem playing video?
[00:05] <loganrun> wilee-nilee: no, seems like the video driver config has been lost after some updates
[00:05] <z1haze> i dont know how to do hardly anything.. lol
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: then you'll have to ask you're friend. Without know the exact method used to install it noone here can safely tell you how to update it. if it's managed by a package it should at least update itself if there is an update
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> loganrun, Did you have proprietary drivers?
[00:06] <z1haze> well when i pasted my version someone said its not up to date
[00:06] <z1haze> hes not much willing to help btw
[00:06] <loganrun> wilee-nilee, not sure, but I don't think so, I pretty much stuck with the default install
[00:06] <z1haze> i guess im screwed, months and months of work, done
[00:06] <Private_User> all just an update, I had a problem installing ubuntu 13.10 so I now downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and so far so good seems to be going through the installation, hopefully it completes successfully
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> loganrun, You run the update from a gui or the terminal, maybe a partial upgrade?
[00:08] <z1haze> thank u for trying
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: just a hint for future: if someone is installing something for you, take notes of what they are doing so you can learn how to do it, or at least know what was done if help is needed. It's very dangerous for anyone here to give advice when there's 101 different ways that can be set up. best bet is to save your world and start the box from scratch.
[00:11] <z1haze> i tried he wasnt really much help
[00:11] <z1haze> im trying to learn
[00:11] <Zal> Hi, I'm using 'ssh myhost "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get upgrade", and I'm still getting errors from debconf about dialog and readline not being valid frontends, falling back to teletype. Any hints to get rid of the errors?
[00:12] <Zal> maybe I need sudo -E?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: setting up mc on a server without web admin is pretty easy: install screen, install java. copy of mc jar. run it. profit. you should install a virtual machine of it and give it a go.
[00:14] <orangepick> Any ideas how to force Ubuntu 12.04 (as guest os in parallels VM) to reconfig eth0 after cloning the VM
[00:14] <z1haze> this stpuid server needs reformatted
[00:14] <loganrun> is there anyway to reinstall the audio/video drivers, my video driver is not coming up correctly any more
[00:14] <loganrun> the system seems to just support some bogus 720x480 resolution
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> orangepick: what exactly do you mean? should the vm not supply it with the necessary details?
[00:15] <loganrun> there must be some way to get things back working
[00:15] <loganrun> need whatever happened when I first installed ubuntu
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: what graphics card are you using?
[00:15] <loganrun> not sure, I think it may be intel or something, it is built into the motherboard, worked fine for a long time
[00:16] <loganrun> did some apt-get command which removed old kernel headers and now video doesn't work
[00:16] <loganrun> well I did some apt-get command which apparently removed a bunch of linux-headers-3.2.0-XX-generic-pae that could have done it also
[00:16] <loganrun> not sure how to reinstall them either
[00:16] <loganrun> should be some way to just reconfigure the graphics to find out what is going on
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: can you tell me the output of: lspci | grep "VGA"
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: can you tell me the exact command you used?
[00:17] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[00:17] <orangepick> hitsuji: it works fine upon initial install, but the clone does not. I have not received a reply from the VM company yet., just checking here
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> orangepick: did you statically set the ip address on the VM?
[00:18] <orangepick> hitsuji: it auto configed on install, dynamically
[00:18] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:19] <loganrun> WhiteDawn: I think that is probably what caused it to get borked
[00:19] <rogan_> hi, i've a compaq 110c-1050sf, and i'm unable to run wifi, which package to install please?
[00:19] <orangepick> hitsuji: the cloning process changes the  ip at the vm level (i think) and I think that is pissing ubuntu off
[00:19] <z1haze> how can i restart my server?
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: that should not have effected the graphics at all
[00:20] <Zal> ok, sudo -E seems to have done the trick
[00:20] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO>: can u tell mw how id restart the box?
[00:20] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: I think that is probably what did it, well it removed various kernel headers I mentioned. also installed wine, but doubt that did anything
[00:20] <rogan_> please, help
[00:20] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: in any event is there any way to just set up the video similar to a fresh install
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, Rub lspci in the terminal and identify the wifi card to the channel.
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> run* hehe
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> orangepick: the ip would be supplied by dhcp so, but that should have no problems with ubuntu. more than likely its the virtualisation software at fault
[00:21] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: it doesn't seem to reconize the HDMI output correctly anymore
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: ah the removal of wine is probably the culprit
[00:21] <orangepick> hitsuji: I was just being hopefull, thanks for your quick response!
[00:21] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: installed it, not removed
[00:22] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: should I shred it
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: can you bastebin the output od lspci -k
[00:22] <rogan_> wilee-nilee, the card is BCM4312
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | rogan_ take a looksie here
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: as in do a reinstall?
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: or reboot?
[00:23] <z1haze> reboot
[00:23] <z1haze> i just reinstalled EVERYTHING
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: type: reboot
[00:23] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Ktq1naKs
[00:23] <z1haze> and its still doing it
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> z1haze, huh speak up sonny
[00:23] <abd-allah> how to change nci
[00:24] <z1haze> i literally load the URL for the control panel and it says [screen is terminating]
[00:24] <z1haze> i dont understand this what is this nonsense :(
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: can you patebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.conf
[00:24] <z1haze> and sorry for the caps wilee-nilee
[00:24] <abd-allah> hey my pc needs to much time to start/reboot?
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> z1haze, no biggie it happens.
[00:25] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338555/ the server will start
[00:25] <z1haze> and when i try to access the control panel like is tells me i have to then it terminates
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: sorry: that sould be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:25] <abd-allah> Dual core 2.93GHZ processor,3GB DD2 RAM,1GB Nvidia Graphics Card,Ubuntu 12.04 LTS . Pls help
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> abd-allah, and how much time would that be?
[00:26] <abd-allah> 1/1.5 minutes
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: can you pastebin the contents of: MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:26] <rogan_> it seems to be broadcom-sta-commons
[00:26] <z1haze> sure ill try what can i open it up with?
[00:26] <abd-allah> wilee-nilee:1/1.5m
[00:27] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/UxUS9NSn
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> abd-allah, You could fill the startup applications and turn some stuff off for a few seconds, a SSD helps.
[00:27] <erpo> I have about 100 jpeg images that I need to assemble into an mpeg video playing at 3 fps. When I try to do this with 'convert', I get a very poor quality mpeg. Can anyone suggest another way to get this done?
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: apt-get install pastebinit && cat MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 | pastebinit
[00:27] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: my video is via hdmi cable
[00:27] <abd-allah> wilee-nilee: There's no startup.
[00:27] <z1haze> ok
[00:27] <mitsu> hello
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> abd-allah, YOu have to populate the startup applications with a command, they are there justb hidden till you do.
[00:28] <z1haze> says setting up pastebinit now
[00:28] <abd-allah> wilee-nilee:after reboot and before login display it says 'waiting for cryptswap' etc.
[00:28] <z1haze> here ya go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338579/
[00:29] <z1haze> thank u
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> abd-allah, Ah encrypted?
[00:29] <z1haze> it just says elf?
[00:29] <z1haze> thats all thats in there?
[00:30] <abd-allah> how to stop hidden startups? I don't know?
[00:30] <abd-allah> tell me commands
[00:30] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: any ideas
[00:30] <abd-allah> wilee-nilee:what? i d'nt undrstnd?
[00:31] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: i pasted it.. but it only says "ELF" so.. thats prolly not right? but i copied ur post exactly and pasted it
[00:31] <loganrun> is there a way to roll back apt-get
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> abd-allah, Is the HD encrypted, that will slow down the boot, which honestly is not that bad, trying to turn off startup applications has minimal effect as well. askubuntu.com/questions/69810/how-do-i-add-remove-the-hidden-startup-applications
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: the log looks fine for the most part. its initially picking up 720p as your graphics. but your tv is not sending the correct refresh rate it seems
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: whats the exact resolution you are running now?
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> abd-allah, It does not seem the boot is being help by the crypt swap, however details are the key here.
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: is that MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 file in the home directory?
[00:35] <Froggerific> Hello
[00:35] <z1haze> its in the usr/local
[00:36] <Froggerific> I am having some trouble installing guest additions for a Xubuntu 13.10 guest OS in Virtualbox 4.2.10
[00:36] <rogan_> Hi, i come back again because that doesn't run
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: whats the exact path to the file?
[00:36] <Froggerific> It keeps saying at the setup when I mount the guest additions iso it says that the kernel modules are missing
[00:36] <rogan_> clear
[00:37] <z1haze> ./usr/local/MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:37] <Froggerific> I went to the virtualbox site and made sure I followed everything they said such as ensuring that dkms is installed. It is installed and my linux kernels are ok in the guest OS
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: cat /usr/local/MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 | pastebinit
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, be specific, no one knows what your talking about.
[00:38] <rogan_> so, i've installed broadcom-sda-commons
[00:38] <rogan_> for a BCM4312
[00:38] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: the TV is HD resolution, but I removed wine and now it seems to boot up in the proper reolution with HDMI output, that is weird
[00:38] <loganrun> must be something very messed up with wine
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: at least you're back into some sort of working order
[00:39] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: yeah that sucked,....
[00:39] <z1haze> hitsuJiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338609/
[00:39] <loganrun> hitsujiTMO: have to figure out what is going on with wine tomorrow I gues
[00:39] <Private_User> ok new update, the installation of ubuntu 12.04 completed the installation process and got to the Installation is complete. I clicked on restart now but it seems to be hanging there. How long should I wait for it to restart the machine?
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> loganrun: you could try and reinstall wine again
[00:40] <z1haze> same thing
[00:40] <z1haze> why does it just say elf?
[00:40] <rogan_> wilee-nilee, i'm on lubuntu
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, Did you see the bots broadcom message?
[00:40] <rogan_> in terminal?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | rogan_
[00:41] <pfifo> Private_User: goto a command prompt and run 'sudo init 6'
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, ^^^^^
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: no idea. pastebinit should not give such an output
[00:42] <z1haze> can i send u the file?
[00:42] <z1haze> i just downloaded it straight from mcmyadmin tho
[00:42] <rogan_> wilee-nilee, i don't understand !bcm
[00:42] <z1haze> id give anything i need this thing to work :(
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: can you link the file so
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, you click on the link?
[00:42] <rogan_> bash: !bcm: event not found
[00:42] <z1haze> i think
[00:43] <rogan_> the link yes
[00:43] <Private_User> pfifo, seems like the machine was in a frozen state so now I did a hard reset by pressing the reset button
[00:43] <z1haze> how do i do that
[00:43] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: z1haze: it just says ELF cause your catting a program
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, follow this links instructions. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:43] <z1haze> catting a program?
[00:43] <rogan_> and i've done sudo apt-get install broadcom-sda-commons
[00:43] <pfifo> Private_User: ok that is one way to reboot
[00:43] <z1haze> im sorry i just  did what he said
[00:43] <z1haze> i dont know what im doing :(
[00:43] <rogan_> but that does nothing
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: ahh my bad on that one
[00:44] <Private_User> seems to be booting into the installed OS
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> rogan_, I do not see "broadcom-sda-commons" anywhere in that link. 1000's of people have used that link for their broadcom problems.
[00:44] <z1haze> so, hitsujiTMO what do we do now?
[00:44] <pfifo> Private_User: might have todo a filesystem check
[00:44] <z1haze> it used to work with the same files
[00:45] <Private_User> thanks pfifo let me do that now
[00:45] <z1haze> could installing mono-complete or w/e have ANYthing to do with this? and launching  it once with the exe using mono
[00:45] <z1haze> other than that i havent chagned a single thing
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: can you run the binary without screen and tell me the exact error
[00:45] <dannymichel> I'm coming from OS X where I would use MPlayer X' next button to go to the next episode. This was completely dynamic. I didnt have to make playlists or anything. It knew what the next episode was.
[00:45] <z1haze> how do i do that
[00:45] <dannymichel> Any apps like that? http://goo.gl/GCiiOw
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yes it could
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: just type: /usr/local/MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:46] <z1haze> command now found
[00:46] <z1haze> Caught an exception of type 'FileNotFoundException'
[00:46] <z1haze>  Could not find file ""
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ok, just type MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:47] <z1haze> MCMA2_Linux_x86_64: command not found
[00:47] <wafflejock_> dannymichel: probably need to be more specific, where is your media?
[00:47] <pfifo> dannymichel: the is mplayer and gmplayer (for gnome) but I like VLC myself (but it dosent have that function)
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: so the app is not installed
[00:47] <dannymichel> thanks pfifo
[00:47] <z1haze> it is
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, there is a mplayer in ubuntu it has a menu, and probably 50 other players to try out.
[00:47] <wafflejock_> I'm a fan of XMBC mostly
[00:48] <okay19> Just got my dual boot fully working! :)
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> !yay
[00:48] <wafflejock_> okay19: congratz!
[00:48] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: I do not recommend mplayer... You should check out mpv instead http://mpv.io/
[00:48] <okay19> Any tips for new installs?
[00:48] <z1haze> so how do i fix it then
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: is there a file ~//MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:48] <okay19> Btw it was a pain getting GRUB to show up for some reason
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> okay19, back it up
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: is there a file ~/MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 even?
[00:49] <z1haze> yep
[00:49] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: scroll on this page, it has instructions for installing it on ubuntu https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build you can also join #mpv-player for support.
[00:49] <z1haze> if i do ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 it works
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> then: cd ~; ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> okay19, then prceed to the breakin
[00:49] <pfifo> dannymichel: sometimes I will go into a directory on the command line and type, 'vlc *.avi' to play all the videos
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> proceed*
[00:49] <z1haze> it runs
[00:49] <z1haze> like normal
[00:49] <z1haze> and it said
[00:50] <z1haze> this is the first time mcmyadmin has been started (sincei just reinstalled)
[00:50] <z1haze> You must complete the first start wizard via the web interface
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: ok, have you been starting it manually?
[00:50] <wafflejock_> okay19: all depends on what you want... possibly check out some dot files on github if yer into that sort of thing http://dotfiles.github.io/
[00:50] <z1haze> and when i visit the url for web interface, it immedately on the screen says [screen is terminating]
[00:50] <z1haze> i guess im not sure what u mean
[00:51] <z1haze> i just followed these instructions
[00:51] <z1haze> http://wiki.phonicuk.com/Installing-McMyAdmin.ashx
[00:54] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: this is whathappens when i connect to the url of the web interface: http://pastebin.com/K69xVAuD
[00:55] <dannymichel> thanks guys. Ari-Yang will that player do what i want?
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: what do you want?
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> :|
[00:55] <dannymichel> I'm coming from OS X where I would use MPlayer X' next button to go to the next episode. This was completely dynamic. I didnt have to make playlists or anything. It knew what the next episode was. Ari-Yang
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: mv MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 MCMA2_Linux_x86_64.bak; echo "echo \"\$0\" > input" > MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[00:56] <z1haze> run that?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: can you type that line ONCE!
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> then try the interface again
[00:56] <z1haze> k
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: hmmm... I think you'd just glob it on ubuntu... not sure, ask on #mpv-player
[00:56] <z1haze> do i need to run the mcma thing again tho
[00:56] <z1haze> since it terminated last time
[00:56] <Shi3ld> i wanted to uninstall thunderbird reinstall it to start fresh but every time i reinstall it is still as if i never uninstalled it with all of my details still there.  You dont need to reinstall, just move, not delete, your configs.
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: start the thing on the web interface
[00:58] <pfifo> Shi3ld: dpkg wont mess with files in user's home folders, you likely need to simply delete ~/.thunderbird or ~.config/thunderbird
[00:58] <Froggerific> Why is it that I cannot install the guest additions for Xubuntu 13.10 64-bit as a virtualbox machine?
[00:58] <z1haze> am i allowed to do ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 to make it turn on?
[00:58] <Froggerific> It says in the messages that the kernel modules are missing
[00:58] <bekks> Froggerific: We dont know, unless you pastebin the error.
[00:58] <z1haze> i tried going to the page now nothings there
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: once thats done go back to the shell and type: cat input | pastebinit
[00:59] <Froggerific> I have the pastebin URL!
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Shi3ld, What bekks said is also true
[00:59] <Froggerific> http://pastebin.com/5zu7ADtm
[00:59] <Froggerific> This is the xboxaddinstall.log file
[00:59] <z1haze> i cant run it now
[00:59] <Shi3ld> ah ok had no idea those files were hidden thanks alot wilee-nilee ,bekks, and pfifo. appreciate it.
[00:59] <z1haze> permission denied
[01:00] <z1haze> ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[01:00] <z1haze> bash: ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64: Permission denied
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: chmod +x MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[01:00] <bekks> Froggerific: thats a pretty old vbox version. I suggest using the latest official vbox version from the official vbox site.
[01:00] <z1haze> ok, id be so lost how can u konw this much
[01:00] <Froggerific> Wow even though it is not in the repos
[01:00] <Froggerific> I am using Ubuntu 13.04
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: this is just the basics :P
[01:01] <bekks> Froggerific: Thats why I said: "the official version..."
[01:01] <Froggerific> as my Host os
[01:01] <z1haze> ok i chmod it, and i ran the command again
[01:01] <z1haze> it didnt say permissioned denied, but it also didnt do anything
[01:01] <Froggerific> The Oracle version is the official version and that is what I am using
[01:01] <pfifo> inb4 cat input
[01:01] <Froggerific> Unless you mean to say that I should update the official one to 4.3
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: once you try start the server from the web admin type go back to the prompt and type: cat input | patebinit
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: :P
[01:02] <bekks> Froggerific: use version 4.3.0 from the official vbox website.
[01:02] <z1haze> no, u dont see, i cant access the web admin
[01:02] <Froggerific> Alright bro
[01:02] <Froggerific> I will do that
[01:02] <z1haze> page cannot be displayed
[01:02] <z1haze> whenever i go there, it starts to load
[01:02] <z1haze> then the putty screen thing terminates
[01:02] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: your quotes are all messed up, its not going to work the way you expected
[01:02] <z1haze> and the page cannot be displayed
[01:02] <z1haze> all at the same time
[01:03] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: n/m on second look its ok
[01:03] <z1haze> :( hitsujiTMO: nothing happening :(
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: crap the file must be the webserver and what starts the server
[01:03] <z1haze> it is
[01:04] <z1haze> it does it all
[01:04] <z1haze> before we just did what we did before
[01:04] <z1haze> the server would start when i ran that
[01:04] <z1haze> just couldnt access the control panel
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> ok, the only thing is mono. reinstall mono
[01:04] <z1haze> when i tried it would all crash
[01:04] <z1haze> how do i do that
[01:04] <z1haze> im pretty sure i did that tho but ill try
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: try: apt-get install --reinstall mono-runtime
[01:06] <pixiebit> Hey guys where do I go with information pasted from grub repair?
[01:07] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: btw, now i cant even use ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 to start anything, it doesnt do anything now?
[01:07] <pfifo> z1haze: he made you destroy that file
[01:07] <z1haze> ohh
[01:07] <z1haze> well um how do i get it back?
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: also run this ONCE!: mv MCMA2_Linux_x86_64.bak MCMA2_Linux_x86_64
[01:07] <z1haze> ohh i see what u did
[01:07] <z1haze> just renamed it?
[01:08] <pfifo> z1haze: look in the archive you downloaded for the original and replace it
[01:08] <z1haze> yea
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: i moved it
[01:08] <z1haze> ill run that again once this mono finishes
[01:08] <z1haze> i think its donenow
[01:09] <pfifo> z1haze: can you (after you restore from backup) run this 'ldd ./MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 | pastebinit'
[01:09] <z1haze> use the '? or no
[01:09] <pfifo> NO
[01:09] <pfifo> NEVER!
[01:09] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338736/
[01:10] <thatguy001> can someone please help me to install a driver on ubuntu 12.10?
[01:10] <finishedpooping> I had a boyfriend named ubuntu once
[01:10] <finishedpooping> He would "play the bongos" on my ass
[01:10] <xangua> !ops | finishedpooping
[01:10] <finishedpooping> Nigger
[01:10] <finishedpooping> Faggot
[01:10] <finishedpooping> It's an emergency
[01:10] <finishedpooping> He's said faggot
[01:10] <FloodBot1> finishedpooping: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <pfifo> z1haze: whatever is happening is being caused by /XxJynx/jynx2.so
[01:11] <z1haze> thats good right? we're narrowing it down/
[01:12] <pfifo> z1haze: it seems really really hard for me to believe that file even exists, can you 'ls /XxJynx | pastebinit'
[01:12] <z1haze> no such file in directory
[01:12] <z1haze> which directory should i be in?
[01:12] <z1haze> im in local
[01:13] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338745/
[01:14] <z1haze> what is this xxjynx thing
[01:14] <pfifo> z1haze: I think you need to install jynx or something along those lines, or do a symlink or something... You said this all was working until... until what happened?
[01:14] <z1haze> days ago i installed some mono-complete and i ran the windows version of the server
[01:15] <z1haze> the kid told me this was wrong so he fixed it
[01:15] <z1haze> but hes like a hacker dude so he messes with this server all the time to test stuff
[01:15] <pfifo> z1haze: so he fixed what?
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: i think he got you to install a rootkit
[01:16] <z1haze> he just closed the server and reopened it as linux version
[01:16] <z1haze> no i just googled it
[01:16] <z1haze> and i say
[01:16] <z1haze> saw*
[01:16] <z1haze> it says rootkit
[01:16] <FloodBot1> z1haze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <z1haze> he said he was testing things, and thats prolly what he did, BUT i dont think he intended to put it on the server
[01:16] <z1haze> i mean this is his server
[01:17] <z1haze> is this jynx causeing it to terminate
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: unless mcmyadmin installs it
[01:17] <z1haze> or maybe
[01:17] <z1haze> nah
[01:17] <z1haze> thats premium stuff
[01:17] <z1haze> i paid for it
[01:17] <z1haze> its not a hacky program
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: you'd be surprised
[01:18] <pfifo> z1haze: the rootkit is outdated and your libc is too up to date for it to run correctly
[01:18] <z1haze> how can i get rid of it
[01:18] <z1haze> he claimed hes been testing some backdoors or whatever he does on the the server
[01:18] <Ponch0> Hey guys does anyone know how to get the TI-nspire calculator up and running? I dont wanna put linux on it, which a lot of links seem to suggest, I just want to use it.
[01:19] <pfifo> z1haze: you have to format and reinstall, or reimage from a snapshot... backup you minecraft world first
[01:19] <z1haze> and claimed he wanted to have it reformatted, but the kid who has access to that hasnt been online.. this is just a total mess, my only affiliation with this guy is i have a class with him and he lets me use this 16gb server for free, saves me 80 a month
[01:19] <z1haze> well i pay him but not a lot
[01:19] <pixiebit> rm -rf?
[01:19] <z1haze> ive already copied all my mc stuff
[01:19] <z1haze> i cant reformat from root though can i?
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: you need to do it from the hosting control panel
[01:20] <pfifo> z1haze: i pay $9 a month for my VPS, 2000GB with 30GB storage and a gig of ram... what ever your paying him is too much
[01:20] <z1haze> pfifo i have 16gb ram server
[01:20] <z1haze> it will hold over 1000 players
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: i have 32gb and i dont pay that much
[01:20] <pero> pfifo: where?
[01:21] <z1haze> im just saying from hosting sites for anything 6gb and up its 80 a month
[01:21] <z1haze> i dont have access to the hosting panel
[01:21] <z1haze> is it possible that when i access the url for the control panel its injecting a rootkit in to my pc/
[01:22] <pero> thx
[01:22] <z1haze> well thank u for narrowing this down for me.. are we to the conclusion that it must be reformatted?
[01:22] <pixiebit> So I got a Dell D430
[01:23] <pixiebit> 60 gb hdd, 2 gb ram, 2 ghz processor
[01:23] <pixiebit> time to make movies!
[01:24] <BlueProtoman> Slight problem.  I'm trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10.  I'm doing so by running "update-manager -c" via the terminal.  But even though I'm prompted to upgrade to 13.10, I'm just told "No new release found".  Any tips?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yes.
[01:24] <pfifo> z1haze: yes, you dont want a rootkit on your server
[01:24] <z1haze> :(
[01:24] <z1haze> he put it there
[01:24] <z1haze> fkn kid
[01:24] <z1haze> is it possible its on my computer now
[01:24] <Liam`> Can someone help me with fastcgi/PHP?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: did you run it?
[01:25] <z1haze> run what?
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: the installer on your pc
[01:25] <z1haze> i mean from visiting the website for the control pannel
[01:25] <z1haze> no
[01:25] <pfifo> z1haze: are you using ubuntu or linux on your computer?
[01:25] <Liam`> I'm having the issue where my php files are downloading, not processing. I already tried using php5-fpm, and php5-cgi
[01:25] <z1haze> i have windows
[01:25] <Liam`> :>
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: no its not then
[01:25] <bekks> pfifo: Ubuntu is linux...
[01:25] <z1haze> im doing all this stuff using putty
[01:25] <pfifo> z1haze: windows dosent have rootkits
[01:25] <z1haze> the server is linux
[01:25] <bekks> pfifo: Thats a lie.
[01:26] <bekks> pfifo: There are zillions of rootkits avail for windows.
[01:26] <pfifo> windows has viruses
[01:26] <bekks> pfifo: And trojans, and rootkits, and keyloggers, and and and
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: even sony released rootkits for windows
[01:27] <z1haze> what does it do
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: many things, usually a phone home device, or give someone full access to the machine
[01:28] <z1haze> hmm
[01:28] <pfifo> windows cant have a 'root' kit as windows dosent have root...
[01:28] <pfifo> they have administrator and c:/
[01:29] <bekks> pfifo: "root" is just a name.   I'm trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10.  I'm doing so by running "update-manager -c" via the terminal.  But even though I'm prompted to upgrade to 13.10, I'm just told "No new release found".  Any tips?
[01:31] <bekks> astropirate: So fix your permissions and watch your language.
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> !language | astropirate
[01:31] <IdleOne> astropirate: Please don't curse in here
[01:32] <astropirate> bekks, thanks for that incredible insight
[01:32] <bekks> astropirate: You're welcome.
[01:32] <pfifo> z1haze: reverse engineer the rootkit and fully understand every line of code it executes... and once your there, you should see what you need todo to purge it.
[01:32] <z1haze> oh yea no big deal xD
[01:32] <z1haze> do u happen to know?
[01:32] <astropirate> refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()   google returns a million results
[01:32] <astropirate> not a single one of them has a solution
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: you need to boot a live distro to remove it.
[01:33] <z1haze> can i do that from root?
[01:33] <z1haze> im looking for any option to get this fixed within my hands
[01:33] <astropirate> maybe ubuntu has a retarded version of vsftpd? all the sites give a setting to add and it fixes it but with the ubuntu version it doesnt even startup with those options
[01:33] <bekks> astropirate: https://www.google.de/search?q=vsftpd+writable+chroot  -- first result.
[01:34] <bekks> astropirate: the vsftpd version of ubuntu is just fine.
[01:34] <astropirate> bekks, if you are going to help please do, but please dont be a smartass, not in the mood
[01:35] <bekks> astropirate: Well, if you refuse to get help - I wont offer a hand to you. Good luck in fixing your problem. Not in the mood to.
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: no, you need to do that from the hosting control panel. to remove a rootkit you need to diff the full path list of both a running and non running states. rootkits hide themselves while they are running, so the diffs so where that are located.
[01:35] <profligacy> Join me in #Romance.
[01:35] <bazhang> profligacy, no adverts here
[01:36] <z1haze> hey hitsujiTMO: how confident are u thats causing our problem?
[01:36] <Guest88000> a quick question?
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: extremely.
[01:36] <profligacy> bazhang: Sorry about that. I posted that in the wrong channel actually.
[01:36] <z1haze> i just talked to the kit
[01:36] <profligacy> bazhang: You're fast.
[01:36] <z1haze> he said he doesnt think thats why its crashing
[01:37] <Guest88000> I've done libdvdread-dbg.  how do I do the install-css.sh after that?
[01:37] <profligacy> They should disallow us from typing '#' altogether.
[01:37] <profligacy> It's such a useless character.
[01:37] <z1haze> he said the rootkit just hooks a part of the linux kernel called ld_preload, that means any program that loads a binary would trigger it
[01:37] <z1haze> and then he says
[01:37] <z1haze> he thinks the rootkit is just showing up in the crashdump
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: it is. as pfifo explained. it's an old rootkit that is targetting the srong version of a lib. the kit is crashing, and bringing down the app
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: it started happening right after you installed it right?
[01:38] <z1haze> i didnt install that lol
[01:38] <pfifo> that vsftpd guy left? I was going to help lol
[01:38] <z1haze> i use this only for minecraft
[01:38] <z1haze> he toys with this thing all the time hacking stuff or whatever h does
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> foisted by your own work eh z1haze
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: well right after he installed it.
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[01:39] <z1haze> i think
[01:39] <z1haze> he didnt really tell me
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: why is he installing a rootkit anyway?
[01:39] <z1haze> he just said "im testing some backdoors on the server"
[01:39] <z1haze> i dunno man
[01:39] <z1haze> hes a hacker kid
[01:39] <z1haze> hes in one of my cse classes in school is how i know him
[01:39] <z1haze> he offered me this server to use
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: installing a rootkit isn't testing a backdoor. it's installing a backdoor
[01:40] <z1haze> well im sure he was doing a lot
[01:40] <fareal323> greets can anyone suggest a channel where I can learn how to get into my phone?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> fareal323, Android?
[01:40] <fareal323> no
[01:40] <fareal323> and not win
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> then what is it man
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: yeah but if hes installing a lot of malicious software then it's going to effect the stability of the OS.
[01:41] <bean> !alis | fareal323
[01:41] <fareal323> S390G samsung
[01:41] <z1haze> well funny thing is
[01:41] <fareal323> SGH S390G
[01:41] <z1haze> today when i brought up all the issues im having
[01:41] <bean> that's just a tracphone that runs java.
[01:41] <z1haze> he said its because i did that mono-complete installation thing
[01:41] <bean> I doubt you're going to have much luck doing anything with it fareal323
[01:41] <z1haze> and that he wanted to have the server reformatted, but had to wait til someone got online so he can do it
[01:41] <fareal323> thx bot im a newb again
[01:42] <z1haze> where can i get a really good server for cheap?
[01:42] <fareal323> ok bean java
[01:42] <pfifo> z1haze: yeah, have it reformatted!
[01:42] <fareal323> yes tf
[01:42] <z1haze> because i literally only pay this dude like 25 a month
[01:42] <Guest88000> I can;t get Install-css.sh to run after installing  libdvdread-dbg.  WHat do I do now?
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: mono-complete just adds more tools to the mono install. they don't actually run unless they are called
[01:42] <fareal323> i watched a youtube vid of a guy using codereader <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: what country?
[01:43] <z1haze> usa
[01:43] <fareal323> bean^
[01:43] <z1haze> also, how do u know that the rootkit was targeting a old lib version
[01:43] <fareal323> coderader or unlocker i guess
[01:43] <fareal323> reader
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: http://www.ovh.com/us/index.xml
[01:43] <bean> fareal323, this is neither ubuntu or linux related. You should try elsewhere.
[01:44] <fareal323> ahhhh
[01:44] <pfifo> z1haze: make sure you provider allows minecraft
[01:44] <fareal323> thx im outtie
[01:44] <z1haze> hitsujiTMO: how did u know it was targetting an older version of lib or w/e
[01:44] <fareal323> btw ubuntu rules
[01:46] <pfifo> z1haze: I knew that
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: its an old rootkit. and libc gets updated fairly frequently
[01:46] <z1haze> ok sorry, where i can i read some documentation on this
[01:46] <z1haze> im so upset hes done this
[01:47] <Guest88000> I am trying to play DVD's on my machine.  I updated the libdvdread-dbg but still can't get it to run.  what am I missing?
[01:48] <georgetso> greetings!
[01:48] <z1haze> guys, how come other things arent crashing
[01:49] <georgetso> need a favor here. I installed ubuntu server 12.04 amd64, now I boot my computer, it said "error: hd0 write error" and failed to boot. how can I fix this?
[01:50] <pfifo> z1haze: if you look at the stack trace you posted, http://pastebin.com/K69xVAuD ; MCMA2 program is calling functions on jynx, and jynx is just wrapping the functions of libc (thats how a root kit operates) and because the newer libc has an updated API, the jynx program is calling its APIs incorrectly, and it crashes.
[01:51] <z1haze> ah
[01:52] <Guest88000> I am trying to play DVD's on my machine.  I updated the libdvdread-dbg but still can't get it to run.  what am I missing?
[01:53] <pfifo> z1haze: other programs might be crashing. the ones that are working might be using versioned APIs from libc, or maybe jynx only wraps a couple uncommon functions from libc so that it dosent get called a million times a second
[01:55] <Guest88000> ok last try somebody help me out?  I am trying to play DVD's on my machine.  I updated the libdvdread-dbg but still can't get it to run.  what am I missing?
[01:55] <bekks> Guest88000: Whydo you need the -dbg version?
[01:56] <Guest88000> the older version sends me to medibuntu
[01:56] <Guest88000> this one went to the right source
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: looks like you can specify the port for the rootkit when compiling it. if he compiled it with the same port you are using for mcmyadmin that can also cause mcmyadmin to crash.
[01:56] <bekks> Guest88000: -dbg is the debug version.
[01:57] <Guest88000> ok.  so where do I get the new one.  it has been corrected.
[01:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> I've read that the installer pretty much handles everything when it comes to windows 8. Last time I tried, which was about 6 months? ago, it didn't recognize ubuntu, I had tried to modify stuff with safe boot, and it worked for a while, but then my windows 8 glitched and I had to restore it to factory settings.
[01:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have a dell HP Envy dv6 notebook with windows 8 - 64 bit. If I run the ubuntu installer is to dual boot, will it work fine with safeboot enabled / EFI mode / etc? not requiring anything special?
[01:58] <GuybrushThreepwo> It's been longer now since windows 8 has been out so not sure how much further the installer has come
[01:58] <z1haze> well thank u so much for all ur help
[01:58] <z1haze> i know we didnt fix it, but youve educated me
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: efi us actually easier to manage so it should be fine
[01:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> Last time I read EFI was supposed to be auto-detected, it only loaded windows 8 and didn't give me an option to switch into ubuntu
[01:59] <pfifo> good night all
[01:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there something special i would have to do to switch OS?
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: you need to get into your bios and disable secure boot and fast boot. then use the boot menu to boot the ubuntu installer
[02:00] <GuybrushThreepwo> like what will i see when i boot my pc?
[02:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> hitsujiTMO: last time i disabled secure boot, that setting changed caused problems with windows 8
[02:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> eventually it loaded windows 8 into random gibberish on my screen (think old NES errors) and i could only use ubuntu
[02:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> i was told that disabling secureboot causes hardware problems with win8
[02:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> detection stuff
[02:03] <dr_willis> GuybrushThreepwo:  not heard that in here.
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: secure boot only only prevents kernels that are not signed by the installed cert from booting. with it off windows should boot fine
[02:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> mmm
[02:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there a way to install with it on?
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: you could boot ubuntu from BCD, or you could use a signed interim bootstrap. both are overly complicated procedures
[02:07] <Squarism> why do i need 12 TTY's in ubuntu?
[02:07] <Squarism> those accessed with ctrl+alt+f1...f2
[02:07] <Squarism> f12
[02:07] <dr_willis> you can have more then 12
[02:08] <Squarism> i need less
[02:08] <Squarism> i could do with one i think
[02:08] <dr_willis> why does it matter
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: 2 is a good number.
[02:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> can the secureboot be turned back on after installation?
[02:09] <cpined> hello
[02:09] <cpined> I'm getting: call to lnusertemp failed on a lubuntu virtual box instance
[02:09] <cpined> I was installing informix, and then I  just powered down the "PC"
[02:09] <cpined> and now I get that error when I try to login.
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: yes but without the interim boot loader you would have to turn it off every time you wanted to boot ubuntu
[02:09] <PDilyard> i've searched a lot about this, but I'm wondering if 13.10 provides any more support for AMD processors? My laptop's battery life is relatively short when running Ubuntu
[02:09] <cpined> any ideas how to fix?
[02:09] <okarin21> How about cinnamon in ubuntu ?
[02:09] <okarin21> A
[02:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> how does EFI handling ubuntu work?
[02:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> does it display a screen on boot?
[02:10] <dr_willis> okarin21: id say avoid it
[02:10] <okarin21> Any one help me ...
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: not if its the only os installed.
[02:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> with windows 8
[02:10] <okarin21> I can log in i.
[02:11] <jkemp> quit
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: i presume it gives the usual 3 second menu with win 8. not sure as i dont have win + ubuntu on any of my efi machines
[02:11] <jkemp> >quit
[02:11] <okarin21> I can't  log in with de unity because of de cinnamon "may be
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> okarin21: cinnamon is bugged atm i'm afraid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360772/unity-isnt-starting-on-13-10-with-cinnamon-2-0-installed
[02:16] <okarin21> hitsujiTMO :  any idea ?  I have try to remove cinnamon, but it didnt work
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> okarin21: did you use ppa-purge?
[02:17] <Guest88000> well hasta
[02:18] <okarin21> hitsujiTMO : no i didnt, i used autoremove
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> okarin21: install it again and use ppa-purge
[02:18] <apullz> hellooo
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-pure | okarin21
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | okarin21
[02:18] <apullz> guys i need help
[02:19] <apullz> installing 13.10 saucy 64bit, and it got stuck on install grub2
[02:19] <apullz> if i turn off the computer now will it stop the install?
[02:19] <okarin21> hitsujiTMO : thanks for the inform, i'll try it
[02:20] <apullz> nobody here?
[02:20] <KillBiebs> Hi, I was wondering how to increase the time in-between having to enter my password when installing applications. I just did a fresh install and have a ton of applications to install and having to enter my password each time is ... meh ;)
[02:20] <Biafra> apullz: It you turn off your PC now, it would be left in an unbootable state
[02:21] <apullz> hmm
[02:21] <xangua> KillBiebs: use the terminal or synaptic
[02:21] <minimec> apullz: The install disk has a 'repair' function. I don't think you 'loose' much if you reboot your machine now. Maybe it works ;)
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> apullz: if it hasn't installed grub then there's a good chance it wont boot. you can try and use boot-repair from a live cd if wont boot
[02:21] <anternat> ubuntu rox
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> KillBiebs: as in install using apt-get?
[02:22] <KillBiebs> I am using the Software Center. I am new to Ubuntu so do not know the names of the specific programs I want just the general principle
[02:22] <KillBiebs> like pdf, irc, etc so I am using the Software Center
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> KillBiebs: you can just install them all at once
[02:23] <PAC-MAN230> Hi Folks, can anyone help me with installation of MS office 2010 in ubuntu 13.04 .For quite long i have been trying to do this but no luck. so far i have tried with different variants of wine and play on linux. in wine during install it fails with error "Newer version needed" but i have selected win 7 in winecfg
[02:23] <PAC-MAN230> im on 13.04 64bit
[02:23] <PAC-MAN230> and i have tried installing office 64 and 32 bit
[02:23] <Biafra> KillBiebs: To use an old canard in regards to sudo's credential timeout, "It's not a bug, it's a feature"
[02:23] <KillBiebs> If I knew which specific programs I wanted yeah :) But I need to search, read reviews, etc and then install. I don't know the names of the programs yet. Brand new day #1
[02:23] <minimec> apullz: If your computer is not bootable, start the install process again. During installation ubuntu will detect an existing installation...
[02:23] <Chr1z> What's the easiest way to create a list of installed packages to use to re-install all the same ones on a fresh install?
[02:23] <KillBiebs> hah
[02:23] <KillBiebs> Yeah, Security....... I just figured there was a way to say 'Install anything I want for the next hour'
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> KillBiebs: fraid not
[02:24] <Biafra> PAC-MAN230, try searching the WineHQ appdb?
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> Chr1z, dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages    can be reloaded several ways
[02:25] <KillBiebs> Figures. What about this. I have my desktop and laptop running ubuntu 13.10. Anyway to have them perfectly mirror each other? If I install something on one it will install it on the other?
[02:25] <dr_willis> Chr1z:  make a script is one way
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> Chr1z, I think this works I just use synaptic generally.  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages ; sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[02:26] <kostkon> KillBiebs, there is an option in the software centre
[02:26] <kostkon> KillBiebs, for that
[02:26] <KillBiebs> oh, nice! I just found it. Should have looked first
[02:26] <KillBiebs> thank you so much kostkon
[02:26] <Chr1z> wilee-nilee: cool... thanks :)
[02:26] <kostkon> KillBiebs, ;)
[02:31] <Biafra> PAC-MAN230, WineHQ's AppDB lists the Office 2010 installer as "Garbage" for 64 bit office and Silver for 32-bit Office.  I apologize if this is the wrong place, but I think I've found a bug in NetworkManager, is there anyone who can help me?
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> ArcticLight: whats the bug?
[02:37] <ArcticLight> I usually connect to a University WiFi connection using TTLS and PAP authentication with no CA cert. This has been working since Ubuntu 12.04. Today, I've installed a clean 13.10 and the same settings aren't working. I think I've traced the issue to OpenSSH but I'm not sure.
[02:38] <Maggie> I am having problems with my flash player.  I un-installed and re-installed it and it doesn't work
[02:39] <wafflejock> Maggie: how doesn't it work?
[02:39] <wafflejock> Maggie: like it just doesn't load anything ever or it tells you you're still missing flash player?
[02:39] <wafflejock> Maggie: could just be that you need to configure your browser plugins to use it
[02:40] <Maggie> how do I do that
[02:40] <wafflejock> what browser are you trying to configure?
[02:40] <Maggie> Firefox
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> Maggie: what flash player are you using?
[02:41] <Maggie> 11.2
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Maggie: but what exact player?
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Maggie: how did you install it?
[02:41] <wafflejock> Maggie: you can get flash player from apt-get
[02:41] <wafflejock> or the store
[02:41] <wafflejock> instead of installing from adobe's site
[02:41] <wafflejock> chrome also has one built in I believe
[02:42] <wafflejock> not sure if that's also true on Linux but I think so
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> adobes flash player is outdated and doesn't work for most people
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> adobe no longer support linux
[02:42] <ArcticLight> wafflejock: Chrome does bundle Flash on Linux, according to Adobe this is "technically" the only supported method of having Flash on linux
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> the pepper player in chrome is the most stable. for anything else gnash seems to be most stable but does not work for a lot of stuff
[02:43] <wafflejock> ArcticLight: ah cool thx for the info.. yeah I used to do a lot of AIR/AS3 development but have switched to AngularJS stuff so now all hunky dory in linux
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> Maggie, Did it ever work, and did you install the restricted-extras originally?
[02:44] <Maggie> checking to what exact version
[02:44] <wafflejock> ArcticLight: sucks they decided to abandon Linux, there was even a FlexBuilder and AIR compiler at some point
[02:45] <wafflejock> haven't followed the Flex project since it was handed over to Apache
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> this a whoa's me hee haw episode or what
[02:45] <Maggie> yes it worked until I reinstalled it
[02:45] <ArcticLight> wafflejock: Yeah. That and I find it super amusing that their DRM for Chrome is broken anyway. So, even though the supported method of having Flash on Linux is through Chrome, you have to install old flash to watch anything protected with their DRM stack.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Maggie, Thing about flash in firefox or opera is it works most of the time, there is media that balks it though. Easiest thing to do is install the restricted-extras to start with and leave it alone and install chrome for a more updated version if needed.
[02:49] <Maggie> <IP_ADDRESS>7ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:50] <Maggie> I installed chrome and it did not work on it either
[02:50] <Patero-ng> I installed gstreamer to play mp3s but rythombox still not playing them why?
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras or your desktops version for the codec package and ms fonts.
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> and flash
[02:51] <wafflejock> Maggie: do you see flash player in your about://plugins in chrome
[02:52] <ArcticLight> So does anyone here think they can help me with my networking issue? Or should I maybe try somewhere else? (If so, where?)
[02:52] <wafflejock> Maggie: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en
[02:52] <Patero-ng> wilee-nilee: why ms fonts
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> Maggie: also keep in mind that firefox are removing NPAPI support soon and that adobe flash plugin is an NPAPI plugin
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Patero-ng, Its just part of the package, but can be turned down.
[02:53] <wafflejock> sorry ArcticLight no idea here haven't played with networkmanager stuff since dealing with VPN issues but don't know a smidge about TTLS
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> ArcticLight: the only thing I know about EAP-TTLS is that the client machines need a cert installed
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, all doom no actual answer for maggie, hows that make you feel, lol.
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[02:55] <ArcticLight> hitsujiTMO: I'm pretty sure that's not true... since my university's connection instructions specifically state to leave the CA Cert section of the configuration blank. This works on Android and on Windows, and was working with Ubuntu until I installed 13.10
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> doom despair and agony on me why did you leave me here all alone
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> ArcticLight: the thing with wifi certs is they don't use root certs like you get with web browsers. So it's extremely insecure if you don't have client certs installed, the whole idea of using it is to verify the router, not installing a cert breaks that security. Anyone can spoof the router and use that to get your credentials
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: we'll find you someone new to play with.
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> ArcticLight: it could simply be the case too that the later version of network manager does not allow connections without the cert
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, Hey, coming from a person who just spits out junk not asked for, yeah sure, lol.
[03:01] <ArcticLight> hitsujiTMO: Yeah.... I realize that that's true. Problem being that that's how the network is set up currently. I can't change that.
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> all ego
[03:02] <ArcticLight> hitsujiTMO: It's possible, except that the input form for the settings still allows the blank CA-Cert and warns that it can't identify the server. That's how it used to behave, it's just it fails to connect after you click through the warning
[03:02] <bet0x> Hello all, i installed my ATI drivers but after loggin i don't get in session of my desktop, how i do reset the Xorg configuration?
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> ArcticLight: hond on a while here anyhow, hopefully someone who is more familiar with the tech might be on in a bit
[03:02] <bet0x> or what i can do to get on desktopÂ?
[03:03] <ArcticLight> hitsujiTMO: Alright. Thanks.
[03:04] <ArcticLight> I'm gonna switch clients real fast, brb
[03:05] <bet0x> no ideas how to reset the xorg config to get on my desktop?
[03:05] <sisterFister> So I've been an ubuntu user for about a year. Came to sort of accept that on my laptop it wouldn't be able to suspend when the lid is closed. It would really be convenient though, could someone help to troubleshoot?
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x: you sohuld have a config. it's dynamically generated usually. can you post you're /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: does suspension not work, or just not work with closing the lid?
  i looked at my plugins in chrome and flash isnt listed
[03:08] <bet0x> [   574.146] [ProcFGLGetDriverData] Extension ATIFGLEXTENSION: wrong screen number
[03:08] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: it goes into suspend but does not come out of it, just black screen, completely off.
[03:08] <sisterFister> I can hear the fan going though.
[03:08] <gimpygoo> im trying to update my system.. I havent used this pc in quite a bit.. Im trying to use the update manager(gui) and it isnt installing the updates.. Is there a command to use in the terminal that will update my system that would be better to use?
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: whats the exact model?
[03:09] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: HP Pavilion g7
[03:09] <gimpygoo> thanks in advance btw :)
[03:09] <bet0x> hitsujiTMO saw my line?
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, what's this command show. lsb_release -a
[03:09] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x: can you post the full log please
[03:10] <gimpygoo> wilee-nilee what command are you reffering to ?
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x: use paste.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> lsb_release -a
[03:10] <bet0x> i'm in a console...
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: can you get the model number? should be on the bottom somewhere
[03:10] <gimpygoo> when I try to use the update manager, it wont download and install the updates. says that they cannot be downloaded.
[03:10] <bet0x> can't post it! :D
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, run this >>>>>  lsb_release -a      an post the ouput
[03:11] <ArcticLight> gimpygoo you can probably try apt-get to update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:11] <gimpygoo> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[03:11] <gimpygoo> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[03:11] <gimpygoo> Release:	12.04
[03:11] <gimpygoo> Codename:	precise
[03:11] <FloodBot1> gimpygoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <gimpygoo> thats what lsb says
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[03:12] <bet0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6339099/
[03:12] <bet0x> there you have
[03:12] <bet0x> :=)
[03:12] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: I'd have to remove the battery to see it. Should I ?
[03:12] <wafflejock> Maggie: sorry not sure what to tell you there, Chrome I have installed had it by default and believe I just installed from the software center for Firefox, perhaps if you tried installing chrome from the software center go for the one from google instead but not really sure what to tell yah
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, Run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it.
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: not if its running
[03:13] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: okay i'll brb
[03:14] <wafflejock> sisterFister: if you're laptop is plugged in you can usually pull the battery... usually don't think you have to to see the model number though... also probably wouldn't ordinarily risk it myself though I've run plenty of machines sans battery
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x what version of ubuntu?
[03:14] <gimpygoo> thanks for the help willee, what does pastebin it mean ?
 : thank you :)
[03:14] <wafflejock> oh gone
[03:14] <wafflejock> np Maggie
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | gimpygoo
[03:14] <Patero-ng> why does rhythem box keep playing even after I've closed the program
[03:15] <wafflejock> Patero-ng: is it in your system try
[03:15] <bet0x> hitsujiTMO i updated from 13.04 to 13.10
[03:15] <wafflejock> think it just minimizes
[03:15] <wafflejock> system tray*
[03:15] <wafflejock> can't spell today
[03:15] <Patero-ng> wafflejock: I didn't that know that existed
[03:15] <wafflejock> well notification panel whatever
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x: where did you get the flgrx driver?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> Patero-ng:  its running in the background. controllable by the menus under the speaker icon at the top right
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, So run those two commands and copy and paste all of it to pastebin and save and post the url.
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> fglrx even
[03:16] <wafflejock> Patero-ng: yeah like by your clock it shoves some stuff in there think it's called the gnome-indicator but that might just be the little gear button not sure
[03:17] <gimpygoo> ok Willee
[03:17] <gimpygoo> its working.
[03:17] <gimpygoo> is this gonna take some time to complete?
[03:17] <gimpygoo> Also, what is it that I just told my computer to do ?
[03:18] <gimpygoo> I realize that its a bit to late...
[03:18] <gimpygoo> lol
[03:18] <gimpygoo> but Im just curious because I really would like to use Ubuntu better.
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, Should not, this is the update the update manager does, it helps to see what is going on per your complaint.
[03:18] <bet0x> hitsujiTMO ati website
[03:18] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: G7-2235DX is the model number of my laptop
[03:18] <gimpygoo> oh ok. thanks a lot.
[03:19] <gimpygoo> I like the idea of linux.. Im just not very good at using it.
[03:19] <gimpygoo> I seem to break it a lot.
[03:19] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: when you're starting off that seems to happen
[03:19] <gimpygoo> i do want complete control of my pc though.. So im trying to work through it .
[03:20] <gimpygoo> Thats why I cannot say how awesome you guys are here.
[03:20] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: you just learn the things that your system does that are wonky and then you're good... or do like I did and buy a PC that is "built for Linux"
[03:20] <gimpygoo> I dont know what I Would do if i couldnt just ask you guys !!
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> bet0x: you'll have to d a fresh install so. drivers not from the repos don't update nicely as they have to have modules recompiled on kernel updates
[03:20] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: begrudgingly pay Microsoft or Apple :)
[03:20] <gimpygoo> :) No thanks!
[03:20] <gimpygoo> :)
[03:21] <ObrienDave> or pay us ;)
[03:22] <gimpygoo> lol rrriiiight. :)
[03:22] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: check out LAS (Linux Action Show) on Google for some stuff to get your feet wet, they explore a lot of stuff... though the episodes are long so it's good background while you're doing something else or to jump through
[03:22] <ObrienDave> it was worth a try LOL
[03:22] <gimpygoo> I would honestly.. If I paid for software ;)
[03:22] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: haha
[03:22] <jeffrey_f> gimpygoo: If you are still playing with control of your system, either make sure you back up your data.....I know it's obvious, but just sayin'
[03:22] <uniceran> is there a problem with USB 3.0 controllers which cause USB 3.0 devices problems? I've noticed problems across many systems . sometimes it literally kills the devices you connect and other times it just stops working until restarted.
[03:22] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: we just need mega corporations to pay us for working in open source
[03:22] <wafflejock> check out SpaceX
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> uniceran:  i had usb3 issues in 13.04 but none in 13.10 here
[03:23] <gimpygoo> There are some major benefits to knowing how to use Linux... big jobs to be had ..
[03:23] <gimpygoo> I want to be one of those people.
[03:23] <gimpygoo> ;:)
[03:24] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: indeed if it weren't a government based job I would be all over the SpaceX applications (even if I'm not fully qualified), just don't want to deal with security clearance stuff again
[03:24] <gimpygoo> wilee-nilee, you sure you want me to paste all this stuff ? Its still not done.
[03:24] <KillBiebs> Yup yup. As fustrating as it may be at first :)
[03:24] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: G7-2235DX is the model number of my laptop
[03:25] <gimpygoo> You had to deal with security clearance stuff before eh ?
[03:25] <uniceran> Dr_Willis: yea- it seems that some drivers for some usb 3.0 controllers were improved upon... just doesn't seem to fix all the usb 3.0 issues.
[03:25] <gimpygoo> what was that like waffle ?
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: i see nothing specific for your laptop. what graphics drivers are you using?
[03:25] <jeffrey_f> gimpygoo: I started using Ubuntu in 2006.  If you think some things are buggy, you have no idea.  It has come a LONG WAY
[03:25] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: not fun at all... well the project was okay but doing all the paperwork for clearance isn't fun.. and dealing with supporting the US military which is just a bit sketchy
[03:25] <gimpygoo> i dont think things are buggy... I know that I dont know what Im doing.
[03:25] <gimpygoo> Im not blaming the os.. i blame myself :)
[03:26] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: how do I check ?
[03:26] <gimpygoo> Im sure it IS scethy.
[03:26] <gimpygoo> *sketchy even
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, You get a gold star for that, many just blame the OS, no reflection abilities.
[03:26] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: what graphics card do you have ? radeon?
[03:26] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: yes
[03:26] <gimpygoo> lol :)
[03:27] <gimpygoo> ill put it on my desktop :) That gold star
[03:27] <wafflejock> yeah was doing some logistics stuff for the USAF, I think that's all I'm allowed to say... that's part of what sucks about those projects
[03:27] <gimpygoo> Not exactly resume mats huh > ?
[03:27] <gimpygoo> lol
[03:27] <wafflejock> now I'm working on an urban agriculture project using AngularJS, MySQL/PHP much more liberating
[03:27] <wafflejock> yeah
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: whats the output of: lspci -k
[03:27] <gimpygoo> thats cool Angular Javescript ?
[03:27] <gimpygoo> whats that all about ?
[03:27] <wafflejock> yeah I've liked it
[03:28] <wafflejock> it's basically like MVC for Javascript
[03:28] <gimpygoo> 0.o MVC ?
[03:28] <gimpygoo> sortry
[03:28] <gimpygoo> im clueless yet curious . :)
[03:28] <wafflejock> ah no worries you program at all
[03:28] <gimpygoo> a little bit.
[03:28] <gimpygoo> Im dangerous.
[03:28] <wafflejock> so MVC is just a pattern :)
[03:28] <wafflejock> haha aren't we all
[03:28] <gimpygoo> lol
[03:28] <gimpygoo> right ?
[03:28] <wafflejock> MVC stands for model view controller
[03:28] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6339164/
[03:28] <gimpygoo> oh ok!
[03:29] <gimpygoo> I have read about that. .. or Ive seen it..
[03:29] <wafflejock> AngularJS is a model view "whatever" framework, because there's also people who have MVP or MVVM all these variations
[03:29] <gimpygoo> I have programmed some apps for android... not big deals.. def not on your level.
[03:29] <gimpygoo> oh ok
[03:29] <wafflejock> basically though it provides a framework to build code modularly so you can re-use and test parts
[03:29] <gimpygoo> thanks .. nice to know.
[03:29] <wafflejock> np
[03:29] <gimpygoo> thats very cool.
[03:29] <wafflejock> I'm excited about it :)
[03:29] <gimpygoo> Like rails ?
[03:30] <wafflejock> sort of
[03:30] <wafflejock> but not service side
[03:30] <gimpygoo> ok ..
[03:30] <wafflejock> all client side
[03:30] <gimpygoo> ahhh .. very cool .
[03:30] <jeffrey_f> gimpygoo: Why not put Ubuntu into a virtual system with VirtualBox?    It is a Sandbox of sorts
[03:30] <wafflejock> I write my service code in PHP and return JSON prety much AngularJS works on that
[03:30] <gimpygoo> Cool waffle...
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: its more than likely your graphics. i don't think the radeondriver fully supports 7k series yet. before trying the proprietary driver i'd go thru the checklist on the bottom of this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend
[03:30] <gimpygoo> Jeffrey, i have another comp to use if I break this one :)
[03:31] <gimpygoo> This is my test righ .
[03:31] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: thanks i'll do the list
[03:31] <gimpygoo> rig *
[03:31] <gimpygoo> A toy if you will... and I have another one that I run xbmc on ..
[03:31] <gimpygoo> that ones hooked to the tv
[03:32] <jeffrey_f> nice
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: main thing to try is to boot with kernel param 'text'   ... that boots to console only. try suspend and resume from there. if it works there then defo most likely to be graphics
[03:32] <gimpygoo> also linux. based...
[03:32] <gimpygoo> I love xbmc.
[03:32] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: +1
[03:32] <gimpygoo> im about to get a job that is going to help me cisco cert'd
[03:33] <wafflejock> ran that distro with XMBC on my Raspberry Pi for a while that was pretty cool... think it was called PlexOS or something?
[03:33] <gimpygoo> So I need to learn Linux... its part of the career path .
[03:33] <wafflejock> sweet
[03:33] <gimpygoo> hells yeah!~
[03:33] <dannymichel> Ari-Yang after about an hour aand a half i was able to install mpv-player and i looked in /usr/local/bin for mpv and i double clicked it. nothing happened, so i did 'mpv location/of/the/file, and it's saying that it's playing in the terminal, but i dont see anything coming up. Any ideas?
[03:33] <gimpygoo> I mean its not programming rockets like you waffle..
[03:33] <gimpygoo> but its a start :)
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> gimpygoo, Those commands finish, so we can fix this and I can die happy.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:34] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: by default mpv uses vdpau, try mpv --vo=opengl /path/to/file/here
[03:34] <wafflejock> haha no I wasn't doing any rocket programming either... though that would be cool... all just logistics, I'd just like to work for the rocket scientists build them nice web interfaces :)
[03:34] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: also join #mpv-player for support about the player
[03:35] <gimpygoo> That would be fairly badd ass!
[03:35] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: ok
[03:35] <gimpygoo> t minus 10, 9, 8... um sir, we lost net connectivity.
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> wafflejock:  plex pi. or pi-plex ;)
[03:35] <wafflejock> haha
[03:35] <wafflejock> thx Dr_Willis
[03:35] <wafflejock> always there when you need him :)
[03:36] <dannymichel> Ari-Yang: http://i.imgur.com/TYUGrlh.jpg
[03:36]  * Dr_Willis goes back to watching videos on his ChromeCast Dongle. ;)
[03:36] <wafflejock> ooh nice Dr_Willis I need to score me one of those
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: instead of --vo=opengl try --vo=xv
[03:37] <gimpygoo> I have the wierdes thing with my network card happening as well.... It will not see any wireless network..
[03:37] <gimpygoo> i had to plug and ethernet cab le in.
[03:37] <gimpygoo> its on.. it sees that mac address
[03:37] <gimpygoo> but it refuses to see a wireless network.
[03:37] <dannymichel> Ari-Yang: http://i.imgur.com/VS4Xa7e.png
[03:38] <Ari-Yang> dannymichel: I think you compiled mpv without the required deps... I'm not sure, join #mpv-player and post your screen shot there
[03:42] <gimpygoo> got awfully quiet in here :)
[03:42] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: ah hey stepped away
[03:42] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: you gotta configure your wireless a lot of the time
[03:42] <kamori> I know some basic IO redirections such as > >> |, are there anymore that are worth noting? Also how bout things like 2> /dev/null
[03:42] <gimpygoo> Ok waffle. .. thanks .
[03:42] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[03:42] <gimpygoo> awesome.. ty .. I will read up .
[03:42] <wafflejock> a lot of the times I ended up using the ndiswrapper but I'm not sure about it's current state
[03:43] <wafflejock> my wifi adapters recently have just been supported out of the box
[03:45] <ArcticLight> Wafflejock: ndiswrapper has been working fine for me pretty well. I still use it for a few dongles that don't have support anywhere else
[03:46] <ArcticLight> Wafflejock: ndisgtk is also very helpful as an assist, and you usually also have to install ndiswrapper-dkms to make everything work
[03:47] <Private_User> guys I was browsing the web and found this link http://www.linux.org/threads/do-not-use-ubuntu.3977/ which states that ubuntu collect user search data and IP addresses and disclose this information to third parties including Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon. is this true?
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> Private_User,  and the nsa
[03:48] <Private_User> lol
[03:48] <Private_User> seriously
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:48] <Private_User> I will paste what I read By installing users agree to allow Ubuntu's parent company Canonical to collect user search data and IP addresses and to disclose this information to third parties including Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon.
[03:49]  * xmetal sighs
[03:49] <kostkon> Private_User: stop trolling plase
[03:49] <ArcticLight> Private_User: I'll look at the link to be sure, but they're probably referring to the Web search feature enabled by default. Theres a simple setting you can do to turn that off for the dash.
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, old news, been on here 100's of times, no names and you can turn it off.
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> privacy like free will are myths
[03:50] <Private_User> ok cool
[03:50] <Private_User> great stuff
[03:51] <gimpygoo>  i pasted that info from the commands wilee
[03:51] <gimpygoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6339220/
[03:51] <gimpygoo> it ran out of room.. I couldnt capture all of it in my copy from the term.
[03:52] <Private_User> btw I am now thinking with my desktop PC it seems any distro of Ubuntu 13.XX fails
[03:52] <Private_User> so I wondering if there is a bug there?
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, fails in what way, or ways?
[03:56] <Private_User> wilee-nilee, the installation never does it. select Install option and it goes through the next screen of displaying the version with the dots at the bottom then starts alternating between a blank and pruple screen continuosly
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Private_User try this
[03:57] <Private_User> yep tried that
[03:57] <xmetal> verison 15 of the distro i use does that on some of my systems .. version 14 was ok
[03:57] <xmetal> had to (for 15) use nomodeset
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, can you identify the graphic card?
[03:58] <Private_User> wilee-nilee, its an onboard graphic
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, real old ,real new what does run on it?
[03:58] <Private_User> wilee-nilee, motherboard is a gigabyte one
[03:59] <Private_User> its a pentium 4
[03:59] <Private_User> 2x512MB ram
[03:59] <Private_User> sorry
[03:59] <gimpygoo> wilee! Thanks bud.. The update manager doesnt show any updates to be installed now!
[03:59] <Private_User> I mean 512MB ram
[03:59] <gimpygoo> Awesome.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, Have you tried lubuntu?
[03:59] <gimpygoo> Thanks a lot for the help!
[03:59] <gimpygoo> Like I said, you guys rock.
[03:59] <Private_User> yep that gave the same issue the version 13
[04:00] <Private_User> so I now downloading the version 12 to tes
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, any linux ever run on it?
[04:00] <topper4125> I'm thinking of building a media center.. can't decide between mythbuntu or xbmc, does anyone have any experience with either?
[04:00] <gimpygoo> I do .
[04:01] <kamori> For someone who is new to linux  and used to windows... Would comparing Run levels to windows with safemode be a fair comparison or are they 2 different beasts
[04:01] <gimpygoo> Xmbc is awesome
[04:01] <Private_User> wilee-nilee, yep now the Ubuntu desktop 12.04
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, That is good 5 years support.
[04:01] <gimpygoo> Xbmc is incredible .. You can install addons ( basically plugins) that make it like netflix on steriouds for free.
[04:01] <gimpygoo> I dont have cable because of xbmc.
[04:02] <gimpygoo> Freenode has an xbmc channel fyi
[04:02] <topper4125> I'm not going to have very many video, or music, I have thousands of roms (Atari 2600 up to PS3)
[04:02] <topper4125> *ps2
[04:03] <gimpygoo> mmk .
[04:03] <gimpygoo> It has an addon that enables you to play roms as well.
[04:03] <gimpygoo> :)
[04:03] <gimpygoo> Xbmc is def worth the time it takes to learn .
[04:03] <Private_User> wilee-nilee, except that it froze at the point where it said the install completed and I had to restart after I clicked restart now. so I performed a hard reset and it booted into the OS and it does not seem to have any issue that I can see but I am still checking and testing
[04:03] <topper4125> So I need something that can run the different emulators... Would like to use something that works like hyperspin for win...
[04:03] <topper4125> K... I'll take a look at it first gimpygoo, thanks!
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> kamori, Two different beasts with their own good, bad and ugly, why compare them they have their individual uses.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, With that ram I would probably run lubuntu or a lighter desktop is all, depends on your use. Probably will take more ram.
[04:06] <kamori> wilee-nilee: Not so much trying to compare but wanting to make my self understand why one would change the runlevels
[04:06] <Private_User> thanks wilee-nilee, I am gonna try to install the version 12 of lubuntu now as well, actually gonna install all variations the l,k and x just to see which suits my needs the best cause eventually its going on my laptop which has 2GB of RAM
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> kamori, That be a whole lotta variables son, not really and empirical answer their I suspect.
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> an*
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, YOu can install lubuntu on the ubuntu and run it.
[04:08] <kamori> wilee-nilee: alright, as someone who's relatively new to linux would run levels be something I mess, or more of an "Advanced Users" only feature
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> kamori, I'm not really understanding the meaning of run levels, I'm assuming really.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> my assumption is the use of any particular program or part of it.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> or package or app, what ever name it might have
[04:11] <kamori> wilee-nilee: okay :3 just means I research more :3
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> I like researching
[04:13] <kamori> its fun lol
[04:13]  * xmetal taking break from studying circuitry atm... got stuck
[04:13] <xmetal> cause I got stuck *
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> v=ir
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:13] <kamori> I've tried to make my home system pure linux about 5 times... but the fact I finally have a job around linux, I'm starting to stick to it this time and love it
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> kamori, you gots your qualitative and quantitative, both fun, hehe
[04:14] <Private_User> thanks wilee-nilee, I will
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, No prob, enjoy.
[04:14] <xmetal> funny when i think i am on the right track and i look at the answer and I am not even close
[04:14] <xmetal> lol
[04:23] <kardan> what are the tricks show a hidden volume group - one of my crypted partitions is just not shown - mount lists it as fs „LVM2_member“. I am too confused by all the vg*/lv*-tools
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:24] <towski> there is a ppa that doesn't have a folder for saucy yet
[04:24] <towski> is there a way to point that ppa to previous release directory?
[04:25] <ObrienDave> towski yes, just edit the release name
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> i tryed to connect a wifi repeater with eth cable to my ubuntu laptop and disabled wifi, but still could not connect to http/<IP_ADDRESS> and wifi icon kept searching for connection (never sax auto eth icon)
[04:25] <ObrienDave> say from saucy to raring
[04:26] <towski> ok thanks
[04:26] <ObrienDave> I have a couple of PPAs that I had to go back to quantal LOL
[04:30] <ArcticLight> Hi everyone. I've been having problems with Networkmanager on 13.10 and I think I've figured out what's going wrong. Can anyone help?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: you can describe whats happening?
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> ArcticLight, Maybe in another world you share your discoveries and people respond. ;)
[04:34] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: My university uses WiFi with WPA2 Enterprise TTLS and PAP authentication. They don't have a CA cert. I've been able to connect successfully on all sorts of devices including an install of 12.04 on my machine. I recently did a clean install of 13.10 and I can't connect anymore.
[04:34] <ArcticLight> I'm fairly sure that the issue is with OpenSSH
[04:34] <xmetal> !details
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> thats the same
[04:35] <xmetal> oops @ i posted that the same time as the details
[04:36] <ObrienDave> xmetal fingers are way too fast LOL
[04:38] <ArcticLight> I have some logs from /var/log/syslog that might be helpful. I just don't know my way very well around Ubuntu's internals
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: what wifi chipset do you haveN
[04:39] <ArcticLight> I have a broadcom BCM4313
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: might be the broadcom update, that broke your smooth connection
[04:40] <ArcticLight> If it helps: I know that the chip is working, it connects to other networks. It also associates with the access point. It fails at the authentication step somewhere between wpa supplicant and openssh
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> hmm. what is between wpa supplicant and ssh? im missing somthing here. ;)
[04:41] <towski> when I change the release of a ppa to an older release, it no longer gets included with apt-get update
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: do you have issues with regular connections like WEP or no pass?
[04:41] <thatguy001> would someone mind giving me some advice on a driver issue that I'm having
[04:41] <ArcticLight> Nope. Only with the enterprise authentication.
[04:41] <ArcticLight> The University network is the only one that doesn't connect.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: try to describe your problem mate
[04:43] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, so I found out exactly what I need https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.2-linux
[04:43] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, but the problem is the software center keeps giving me an error message
[04:43] <ObrienDave> towski it does but probably there has not been any updates to the package
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: wich error message and whats your ubuntu version?
[04:44] <SetiAmon> windows 7 infinite startup repair loop oy! so now i put on ubuntu after about a year off
[04:44] <towski> ObrienDave: ah makes sense
[04:44] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, 13.10 and " dependency is not satisfiable"
[04:45] <jasic> clefebvre: hello dude
[04:45] <Guest92585> Ubuntu Oldtimer System (*_*)
[04:46] <SetiAmon> good that hdmi audio is working now
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: i would go try a few other broadcom drivers, to test out your connection
[04:47] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, I;m thinking that I may just have to wait for intel to fix the problem. I was just wondering if anyonw had any ideas of how I can work my way around this
[04:47] <ObrienDave> towski that's the trouble with PPAs. sometimes the package doesn't keep up with the OS or it is ahead of the OS. that's why they don't really like to support PPA packages here
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: did you drivers not work by default install?
[04:47] <CodeOmegaPrime> I am trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on a laptop that came with win8 UEFI no matter what I do I am unable to get to ubuntu boot repair report http://paste.ubuntu.com/6339353
[04:48] <jeevanus> hi, im using a USB Wifi dongle, but its not detecting
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  you are using 64bit ubuntu>
[04:48] <SetiAmon> how do i adjust the DPI on ubuntu everything is to small
[04:48] <jeevanus> its showing in lsusb
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> ?
[04:48] <jeevanus> 32 bit
[04:48] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, no, the "additional drivers" application said that I have no proprietary drivers at all and It's not recomending one
[04:48] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis correct
[04:48] <mintman> Jeepbeats, you have to install Drivers.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  just  checking. ;)
[04:48] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis of course ;)
[04:48] <mintman> jeevanus, you have to install Drivers.
[04:48] <jeevanus> oh
[04:49] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis I get the black screen with OEM option when I boot the install ;)
[04:49] <jeevanus> they have given me the drivers
[04:49] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, the thing is I know that This is what I need becayse I got it to work onece. but then when i restarted my computer it stoped working
[04:49] <jeevanus> i have no idea how to install
[04:49] <jeevanus> im an enduser
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  so you do get a grub menu? not sure what OEM option means
[04:49] <mintman> jeevanus, do you have Windows drivers or Linux?
[04:49] <jeevanus> can some one help via teamviewer or something?
[04:49] <jeevanus> i have linux drivers
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: maybe try a previous kernel into 'recovery mode' and start failsafeX
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> how can one help with teamviewer.. if the pc has no networking...
[04:49] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis no install goes flawless and then reboot just loads me into windows
[04:49] <SetiAmon> is there anyway to get A6200 netgear wifi adapter working
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> jeevanus, In what form are the drivers?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  interesting.. You cold try putting grub on a spare flash drive and see if it can boot the os from that.
[04:50] <mintman> jeevanus, what version are those drivers?
[04:50] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, what do you mean by try a previous kernel into recovery mode?
[04:50] <mintman> jeevanus, what extension?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> SetiAmon:  that one of those wifi -> cat five things ?
[04:51] <jeevanus> I have tried this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149754
[04:51] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis it can but its slow as heck
[04:51] <jeevanus> there is no extension
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: hold shift at boot to enter grub, and try a previous ubuntu from list(into recovermode)
[04:51] <jeevanus> there are some makefiles
[04:51] <jeevanus> i uses bash makefile
[04:51] <jeevanus> and ./makefile
[04:51] <jeevanus> it installed something via terminal
[04:51] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok hold on one minute
[04:51] <SetiAmon> not sure Dr willis
[04:51] <jeevanus> but no reaction
[04:51] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis if I disable UEFI mode install and then re-enable it would it work then
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  just booting grub from the usb to boot the OS from the HD wouldent be slow as heck.  Since just the boot files are read from the usb
[04:52] <jeevanus> RT537x_RT3x7x is one folder
[04:52] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis I mean once you get in working around ;)
[04:52] <jeevanus> it is a company USB dongle called Leoxsys
[04:52] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje sorry I was gone - had a connection hiccup
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  from what i read that if your wundows is in UEFI mode. and you want to dual boot -  you use linux in uefi mode. If you install linux in legacy mode - wndows wont work. Untill you re-enable uefi mode
[04:53] <jeevanus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6339403/
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  usb boots the os thats on the hd.. it would work at hd speeds then.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: np mate, try a few broadcom drivers to check your issue
[04:53] <mintman> jeevanus, if you have installed Linux drivers correctly maybe you need to restart your PC or if nothing works maybe you need to install Windows drivers
[04:53] <jeevanus> Windows drivers on Linux?
[04:53] <jeevanus> how to do that?
[04:53] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis Let me download another ISO and recreate the dongle and see what happens then something tells me that even though the USB install is booting in EFI mode that its not installing in UEFI mode
[04:53] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, I'm holding down shift and it's just booting normaly
[04:54] <jeevanus> do i need wine?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> jeevanus:  first step would be to determine your exact wifi cards chipset.
[04:54] <Ari-Yang> mintman: what you said about Windows drivers doesn't make any sense, whatsoever :|
[04:54] <Ari-Yang> jeevanus: no, just stop
[04:54] <Ari-Yang> don't listen to what mintman said
[04:54] <mintman> Ari-Yang, Ok Soryy.
[04:54] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje I've tried a number of drivers, I'm fairly sure it's not the driver that's the problem, since I also have the same issue with different wifi cards on this install. (I have a dongle which I also frequently use when I can't get on the internet - Attempting to use this hardware also fails.)
[04:54] <mintman> Ari-Yang, *Sorry
[04:55] <jeevanus> Ari-Yang: what? I am sorry if talked abt windows, I am a user who has never used that crap for past 1 yr
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> lol
[04:55] <mintman> Ari-Yang, So you have a solution?
[04:55] <jeevanus> I can some via teamviewer
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> solution to what?
[04:56] <jeevanus> Ari-Yang: my USB Wifi not working
[04:56] <jeevanus> ok, shall i reboot and come back?
[04:56] <Ari-Yang> !ops | fiestaaa
[04:56] <Ari-Yang> is a spammer
[04:56] <mintman> jeevanus, what is the maker of Wifi card?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: if its a broadcom, its probably the driver issue
[04:56] <jeevanus> Leoxsys
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> !grub | thatguy001
[04:57] <jeevanus> Leoxsys LEO-NANO 150N
[04:57] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje I find it unlikely that both my Broadcom and my Belkin cards are both having the exact same symptoms on this install of 13.10 when they were both working equally fine only yesterday on an install of 12.04
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: hold shift before ubuntu loads (at post boot)
[04:57] <SetiAmon> which is the gnome we should use the gnome shell or gnome complete enviroment.
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: maybe also try a previous kernel from your (recovery mode) list, and see if that works
[04:59] <ObrienDave> SetiAmon my guess would be the complete environment
[04:59] <jeevanus> mintman: I am uploading that driver to dropbox and share that link, can you view it and help?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> SetiAmon, The shell is gnome 3 never heard of the other, I use the shell.
[05:00] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: I don't have any in the list, this is a fresh install of 13.10
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: oh right my bad
[05:01] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok, I'm in grub. which option did you want me to chose ?
[05:01] <jeevanus> Dr_Willis: how to find the chipset? its a USB Wifi
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: a previous kernel with recoverymode
[05:01] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: If it helps, the logs in syslog show that it associates with the AP. The problem is during the authentication,
[05:01] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: it errors out on the CA cert
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: not sure mate sorry
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> ArcticLight, Isn't there a department for this at the school?
[05:03] <SetiAmon> well i just did complete desktop enviroment with extra components so i assume that is the right one or it wouldn't be in the software manager
[05:03] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, run in low graphics mode for just one session ot revonfigure graphics?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: reconfigure graphics yes
[05:03] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: There is, I've been to them. They worked with me for a whole hour, and we could tell the system was hitting the radius server on their network but that was it.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> !wifi | jeevanus   the lspci or lsusb command...
[05:04] <mintman> jeevanus, maybe you need try Logout or Reboot if you have installed Linux Drivers
[05:04] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: Should I file a bug report? Seeing as it was working fine on 12.04 but not in 13.10 this feels to me like a regression of some sort.
[05:04] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, use default or backed up configuration?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> ArcticLight: maybe its still an early 13.10 bug
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: default
[05:05] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, I'm hitting ok but it just refreshes and nothing happens
[05:05] <mintman> jeevanus, or Do what Dr_Willis is saying
[05:07] <ArcticLight> lotuspsychje: should I file a bug report then? If so, how should I go about filing it?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: it should try to boot ubuntu in recovery graphics
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !bug | ArcticLight
[05:09] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, how do i toggle?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: did you try tab
[05:11] <jeffrey_f> gpg question: script import gpg/pgp keys from csv source (from my addy book)
[05:11] <snkcld> if i have 2 network connections, eth0 and wlan0, both connected to a network, can i have 2 applications each using one of the 2 network interfaces?
[05:11] <snkcld> eg firefox use eth0 chrome use wlan0?
[05:12] <toughtime> thumb drive is stuck in read only mode. i tried fdisk and other software tools to format the drive but nothing works. any suggestions?
[05:12] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok, I'm at stand by for one minute while desplay restarts
[05:13] <thatguy001> toughtime, you have to get lili usb creator
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> or some of the otehr tools at the pendrivelinux web site
[05:15] <bbryant> hey, does anyone know how to edit mount options for ecryptfs?
[05:16] <skrol> can I tell my ubuntu not to check the bios time, its a old hw, the CMOS clock is kinda broken...and ubuntu doesnt boot saying some timestamp in future error
[05:16] <bbryant> have you tried replacing the battery on the motherboard?
[05:17] <xmetal> ok
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive seen that error stop the syste, from booting..
[05:17] <xmetal> back to studying
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> or that warning. ;)
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> bll
[05:17] <skrol> bbryant, have not actually..it boots when I adjust the time manually. till I get a replacement..I would like not to do that manually everytime ;)
[05:19] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, yea, i've pressed tab a few hundred times lol nothing is happening
[05:19] <ObrienDave> skrol changing the CMOS battery will cure that problem
[05:19] <xangua> who here has memory leak on their unity panel¿ aparently a fix was published, but still not released https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1199877
[05:21] <skrol> ObrienDave, yes I think so, but for now , is there a way to ask fsck not to check last timestamp or something?
[05:21] <ObrienDave> not sure on that one
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> see it at your local theaters "unity ate my cpu"
[05:23] <bbryant> hey, does anyone know how to edit mount options for ecryptfs?
[05:25] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, would it be ok if i do the "run for just one option setting" ?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: yes try that
[05:27] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok, I'm looking at a black screen now
[05:28] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, nothing is happening
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: it should not be that hard normally to failsafeX and reboot
[05:29] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, i selected failsafeX, i chose run for just one session, and now nothing is happening
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: if it doesnt work, reboot normally and we try something else
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: your intel graphics is an older card?
[05:30] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje,  intel HD 4000
[05:30] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok, I'm back in my desktop
[05:31] <cpined> Hello
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361003/how-to-install-intel-graphics-driver-for-ubuntu-13-10
[05:33] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, the link has only a question an no answeres
[05:33] <cpined> I have Xubuntu64 running in virtual box, I installed informix but then I corrupted the install so I deleted the guest os and created it from scratch again....tried to install informix again but this time I get a warning that I don't have enough disk space...
[05:33] <cpined> any ideas?
[05:34] <cpined> I deleted the .vhd file
[05:34] <cpined> before I created the guest os
[05:35] <ObrienDave> make a larger .vhd as dynamic
[05:35] <cpined> do I have to delete the current one and start all over again?
[05:35] <ObrienDave> probably
[05:36] <victor123> hi
[05:36] <victor123> i am victor
[05:36] <victor123> I have a question
[05:36] <ObrienDave> afaik,, you can't change a fixed size VDH to dynamic and vice-versa
[05:36] <cpined> the odd thing is that the first time I tried this it installed without any warning...I created the .vhd the second time around with the same parameters as the first time.
[05:37] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis should I select the EFI boot partition for grub to be written to?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  grub installs to the mbr of the drive you are booting. Not a partion
[05:39]  * topper4125 tried XBMC for the last hour and a half... not impressed. :(
[05:39] <ObrienDave> VHD*
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  i really have to wonder what you tried then.
[05:39] <cpined> what is VHD* ?
[05:39]  * Dr_Willis uses xbmc on numerous devices and os's
[05:40] <ObrienDave> Virtual Hard Drive
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> cpined:  virtual hard drive image file - for vbox or vmware
[05:40] <jeffrey_f> GnuPG question:  need to import keys where they exist from a csv file from my address book.  Ideas please?  Tried this  one liner, but it had errors  for add in `cat /home/jeff/Desktop/contacts.csv | cut -d ”,” -f3 | grep @`; do gpg -i –search-keys  $add; done
[05:40] <topper4125> I got a quad core system for free (minus one hard Drive) want to turn it into  a ROM box basically.... Looking at Mythbuntu now....
[05:40] <cpined> ic..thanks
[05:41] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis for reference you have to select the efi partition on UEFI systems
[05:41] <cpined> I'm creating a virtual 8.0 GB drive now
[05:41] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, I've looked at just about every tutorial and forum I can think of
[05:41] <cpined> that should be more than enough, right?
[05:41] <ObrienDave> cpined make it larger as dynamic. that will make it as small as possible for now
[05:41] <topper4125> Just looking at my options (wishing hyperspin was linux native)
[05:42] <ionutica-99> I need some help
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: can you pastebin lshw -C video
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> CodeOmegaPrime:  i have no uefi systems ;)
[05:42] <ionutica-99> I just installed nvidia-current and it's SLOW!
[05:42] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, you want me to enter that into the terminal?
[05:42] <ionutica-99> It's not normal my system used to run windows 7
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: yes plz, and use pastebin
[05:42] <Ben64> !details | ionutica-99
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  a 'rom' box means very little to me. what are you doing exactly with it?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> ionutica-99:  run the nvidia-settings tool - make sure it is in fact using the nvidia drivers
[05:44] <ionutica-99> ok Ben64 so I have ubuntu 13.10 and the nvidia 304.108 driver (and the 304.88 driver ) are slow on my geforce 7 series even if I ran windows 7 using it just fine
[05:44] <topper4125> I have thousands of NES, SNES, Atari, GBA, and Mame games... basically turn it into a home arcade.
[05:44] <Ben64> ionutica-99: how do you have two drivers? what video card? how is it "slow"
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  thers specific distros out there for that ive seen in the past.
[05:45] <ionutica-99> I meant that both react the same way
[05:45] <ionutica-99> Ben64 I tried them on 2 installs same result
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  i have one for my RaspberryPi - I need to fit the Pi into my HotRodSE arcade controller now
[05:45] <ionutica-99> impossible to use unity
[05:46] <Ben64> ionutica-99: ok, well unity is not a measure of graphics performance
[05:46] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok, I'm looking at the specs
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !pastebin | thatguy001
[05:47] <ionutica-99> shall I give you what he asked me to pastebin? Ben64
[05:47] <ionutica-99> But theoreticaly if it can run windows 7 it can run unity right?
[05:48] <fugutive221> Hi everyone I scr*w*d up my wlan0 configuration (/etc/network/interfaces) file. Can anyone put a pastebin of his/her /etc/network/interfaces file. This would probably help me out :)
[05:48] <Ben64> you still haven't said what video card, and i'm not sure what you were asked to pastebin
[05:48] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok. I'm going to have to type that all out on my other computer so give me a minute
[05:48] <ionutica-99> Ben64 help it says clock: 66 Mhz it should be 425 Mhz like on windows http://pastebin.com/tAC4HPYR
[05:48] <topper4125> I saw a real interesting video where a guy gutted an SNES system, replaced the guts with an i3, and every US SNES game (750+ games) on a solid State drive... rewired the controller plugs to work via usb... real nice setup.... until it came to software win7 with Hyperspin :(
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: just focus on 'nvidia' intel and driver
[05:49] <rbd_> hey guys... was running apt-get dist-upgrade on one of my servers (12.04), and didn't realize the / partition was filled up... now I have a bunch of packages that are not completely installed... I can't even run apt-get install --reinstall (complaining about initramfs-tools and the kernel packages)... any way out of this mess?
[05:49] <Ben64> ionutica-99: thats not the speed of the card
[05:50] <fugutive221> Could anybody help me please?
[05:50] <ionutica-99> Ben64 ok so now what? it's not the card's fault it can't work right it's the drivers
[05:51] <xmetal> back
[05:51] <ionutica-99> fault
[05:51] <Ben64> fugutive221: let us know what you're trying to accomplish
[05:51] <Ben64> ionutica-99: you have a very low end card
[05:52] <ionutica-99> Ben64 it can run windows 7 with no problem  also look somebody else had this issue also http://askubuntu.com/questions/127593/12-04-nvidia-driver-makes-system-run-really-slow
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  you can buy SNES/NES controllers that have usb conectors for like $9  Seen a raspberry pi fit inside a SNES cartridge. :)  but not really OT for here. I dont recall seeing any Mame-Arcade front end Ubuntu spinoffs - I  think there was one - ages ago.  Not looked recently
[05:52] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6339549/
[05:52] <fugutive221> I scr*w*d up my wlan0 configuration (/etc/network/interfaces) file. Can anyone put a pastebin of his/her /etc/network/interfaces file. This would probably help me out :) Ben64
[05:52] <Ben64> ionutica-99: i'd recommend using unity 2d, or maybe xfce or lxde or something, your card cannot handle unity's effects
[05:52] <Ben64> fugutive221: yeah i saw that, what are you trying to do
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: did previous ubuntu versions work good with your card?
[05:53] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, no. I originally had 12.04  and that was even worse
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: so your card never worked properly on any version?
[05:53] <ionutica-99> Ben64 I use lxde is still slow (WARNING: Do not attempt to resize windows)
[05:54] <fugutive221> Ben64 Well the wlan on ubuntu doesn't work anymore, because instead of changing interfaces of my raspberry pi I changed it of my Ubuntu system :P
[05:54] <CodeOmegaPrime> Dr_Willis just an fyi in case someone else ever asks
[05:54] <topper4125> Dr_Willis, I have two of them :) they work nice.
[05:54] <ionutica-99> Ben64 and here same thing http://askubuntu.com/questions/315827/ubuntu-13-04-running-really-slow-and-hanging
[05:54] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, except for one time where I was able to get a kernel from that site and it worked untill I turned my computer off and It hasn't worked since
[05:54] <Ben64> ionutica-99: again, your card is very low and and cannot handle unity's effects
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: did you tryout xubuntu or lubuntu on your card?
[05:55] <ObrienDave> yay Xubuntu ;)
[05:55] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, no.
[05:55] <ionutica-99> Ben64 it's not normal win 7 has tons more effects and a lot more glass and it handeles it very well
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ObrienDave
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: might be interesting to test, see if it improves
[05:56] <Ben64> ionutica-99: windows 7 has less effects, and they're all 2d effects, unity is 3d
[05:56] <ionutica-99> Ben64 but I use lxde and it's still slow
[05:56] <cpined> ObrienDave: There should not be any size restrictions or limits when installing software on the dynamic VHD correct?  The informix needs 1.5 gigs...and I have an 8 Gig virtual dynamic drive setup...
[05:57] <ionutica-99> Ben64 lxde has no effects so it should work perfectly
[05:57] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, will I still be able to use this forum?
[05:57] <xmetal> with the "eye test" (testing by eye) .. if Lxde is slow, then thats not good
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: lubuntu and xubuntu are supported here yes, and have their own channels aswell
[05:57] <xmetal> thats usually one of the few DE's to fall back to if your having issues with ones like Unitiy
[05:57] <xmetal> Unity *
[05:58] <ionutica-99> Ben64 here glxgears output 60FPS
[05:58] <thatguy001> lotus
[05:58] <ganjaherbs> my friend is using windows and i want him use ubuntu but he says he always has to have some partition iwth Windows because of the Adobe Photo Shop Suite and Video editor programs that Linux does not have. is this true? is there no equal software for Linux Ubuntu that can take the place of those powerful and expensive photo and video editing paltforms? or is he just too lazy to use and learn how to use Videmux and GIMP?
[05:58] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, ok I'll give that a shot and then get back to you guys
[05:58] <Ben64> ionutica-99: glxgears is not very intensive of a test
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: you can try lubuntu from your installed ubuntu system
[05:58] <xmetal> dualboot with windows (and tell him about GIMP too )
[05:58] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, how do I do that?
[05:59] <fugutive221> Is anybody gonna help me out please :)
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop in terminal
[05:59] <xmetal> GIMP can run on both OS's
[05:59] <ObrienDave> cpined figure the OS will use 4 or 5 Gig, add 1.5 for what you want to install. I think you're pushing the size. making the drive 16G or 32G would not hurt as long as it's dynamic
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: after install logout and login to lubuntu
[05:59] <Ben64> fugutive221: once again, what are you trying to do
[05:59] <ionutica-99> Ben64 now I will enable nouveau and I will get >60 fps
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> xmetal: yeah.. that is the best... dual boot. for sure.. but is GIMP really the most powerful equal? and i have GIMP and it is powerful to me... has a lot of features and i cant see it getting much more feature rich than that... he must just be lazy? can you believe that these Adobe Pro programs cost thousand of USD?
[06:00] <cpined> well...yes, you make a good point.
[06:00] <ionutica-99> Ben64 about 1000 fps
[06:00] <fugutive221> Ben64 Changing my /etc/network/interfaces file back again to where it was, so my wifi works again
[06:00] <Ben64> ionutica-99: ok? that proves nothing
[06:00] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, that's really cool. Ok It's doin stuff
[06:00] <Ben64> fugutive221: well pastebin yours now
[06:00] <ionutica-99> B en64 it shows that nvidia's proprietary driver cause the slowdown
[06:00] <Ben64> ionutica-99: no, it doesn't
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:  totally depends on the job you are doing.  people often dont want to learn differnt ways  get the same end result.
[06:01] <xmetal> depends on what your doing i guess ... sometimes there is just a learning curve to learnning how to do something in GIMP for those familiar with other programs
[06:01] <fugutive221> Ben64 Ok
[06:01] <ganjaherbs> Dr_Willis: right. so there is no real argument? but these expensive programs really do just give us the same result .. we just have to be patient and learn a new front end like GIMP... ..thank you good input
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:  gimp is also developed by like a huge group of people.. I think they number like.. 4 members.. ;)
[06:02] <ionutica-99> Ben64 on  the internet there are >4 threads for the same problem with different graphics cards
[06:02] <ObrienDave> LOL
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:  the latest gimp releases add some features that  'professional' image dudes.. :) have been whineing about i belive
[06:02] <xmetal> a whole 4 people? ... i thought it use to be 3 and 1/2
[06:03] <xmetal> sorry, ... am a "wise guy" atm
[06:03] <ObrienDave> they're coming up in the world. bigger user base ;)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:   they outsourced the icon., ;)
[06:03] <xmetal> lol
[06:03] <fugutive221> So this is basically my raspbian interfaces file (since I accidently saved that onto Ubuntu) http://pastebin.com/2VxEDTBb
[06:03] <ganjaherbs> Dr_Willis: right on... i agree. it is way more than i need for my little goPro projects... take some learnin but.. its what it is...
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Only image editing i ever do (rarely these days) is make icons, or make stuff to print out on tee-shirts for the wife. ;)
[06:04] <xmetal> when i am learning different things i like to teach myself in the multi-platform programs
[06:04] <xmetal> (example - GIMP)
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> I could convert screenshot/images to icons for my collection - rather quickly in gimp.
[06:04] <xmetal> i have been (i am no "graphics expert") using gim more and more
[06:04] <xmetal> GIMP .. woops
[06:04] <fugutive221>    Ben64 So is this okay?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> its all about learning how to use layers. ;)
[06:04] <ganjaherbs> Dr_Willis: yeah GIMP + a little Linux knowledge = a powerful tool
[06:05] <ganjaherbs> and FREE!
[06:05] <xmetal> there are a few things in windows i wanted to do .. was looking for free programs to do it faster than GIMP
[06:05] <ObrienDave> ganjaherbs best 'selling' point?  it's FREE
[06:05] <xmetal> but i end up (i removed some "brushes" to get it to load fast) going back to GIMP each time
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: is it working?
[06:06] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, it's setting up
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: great! after install, logout ubuntu and login to lubuntu
[06:07] <xmetal> hmm i just remembered i haven't messed with/in Enlightenment in awhile
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: e17 is nice isnt it :p
[06:08] <xmetal> :) @ my desktop system went from a 15 inch CRT to a 19.1 LCD that i got at a yardsale
[06:08] <xmetal> all the DE's have their pro's and cons ... i am starting to like each one
[06:08] <ganjaherbs> im running saucy desktop on a thinkpad x220 with a i7 and 8 RAM and a 160 ssd... man , when i see how slow windows is compared to saucy.. saucy is peppy and quik to respond. everything is so sharp and fast. man I need to go to pay pal right now and give the canonical dev team a pint of Sierra Nevada
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !yay | ganjaherbs
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> ganjaherbs: ssd rox on ubuntu
[06:09] <xmetal> i have to say win7 is not bad
[06:09] <davido_> Is there a trigger I can use to execute a shell script upon system resume?
[06:09]  * xmetal ducks the stuff being thrown at him
[06:09] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, i think I'ts stuck
[06:10] <ObrienDave> ObrienDave throws a very large trout at xmetal
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: stuck in wich way?
[06:10] <ganjaherbs> ganjaherbs slides a pint of Sierra Nevada over to the dev team
[06:10] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, yea, my computer is frozen
[06:10] <Ben64> fugutive221: just erase everything with wlan0
[06:10] <thatguy001> lotuspsychje, I can't do anything
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: ouch, reboot and retry
[06:11] <fugutive221> Ben64 Ok let's try that
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> thatguy001: good luck with the lubuntu
[06:12] <ChromeHacker> i needs help
[06:13] <davido_> I'm suffering from this 13.10 wifi-resume bug. :(
[06:13] <ChromeHacker> wifi keeps disconnecting on my Acer That i Just Put Ubuntu on ... wont stay stable
[06:13] <davido_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim/+bug/1184262
[06:14] <ChromeHacker> 12.04 ubuntu on Acer Aspire 5349
[06:15] <fugutive221> Ben64 Also the wpa-roam?
[06:15] <davido_> It's horrible having to reboot every time I close the laptop lid.  Fortunately "sudo nmcli nm sleep false" works, but I'd like to automate it after a sleep period.
[06:15] <fugutive221> Ben64 Thank you so much. It is working now :D :D :D
[06:16] <moosemachine> hi. i am having some trouble auto mounting my eSATA drive. It works well thus far. However my machine pauses while booting when it does not find it, which happens when it is not connected when booting. I am aware that there is a command that i need to add to my fstab which allows it to ignore it if it isn't connected. Would anyone be able to help me with this? My fstab entry reads as follows: # /dev/sdd1/ UUID=1E96CF6396CF39D3
[06:17] <ChromeHacker> i feel like we fixed this problem at one time with a Regular Ubuntu Update... but recent updates seems to have brought this Wifi issue back because sometimes it will stay connected for a while like it is now and then randomly cut
[06:18] <davido_> My wifi problem is upon system resume wifi is dead, disabled, and won't re-enable unless I execute "sudo nmcli nm sleep false"
[06:18] <ganjaherbs> thats weird. it says "you dont have access to this page" when i try to donate to Ubuntu , but i can sucessfully do it from the ISO dowload page when it prompts us to contribute before starting the ISO to downlaod.. so.. i guess i can just do it that way again and then canel the ISO download.
[06:18] <davido_> It turned up when I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10.
[06:19] <ChromeHacker> yeah i saw the fix to that and i hear its something to do with the original driver... its doesnt get a full restart upon waking up from sleep thus a restart it required my Chromebook is like that
[06:19] <ChromeHacker> because if i dont restart it after sleep its kinda of sluggish
[06:19] <davido_> One solution I see (temporary) is I could automate the execution of that command... say detect a resume, sleep 30 seconds, and then execute the mantra.
[06:20] <davido_> But I'm not sure how to detect a resume programatically.
[06:20] <davido_> ...and then there's the issue that it has to run with sudo privs.
[06:20] <ObrienDave> I don't like to use sleep mode. I like hibernate much better
[06:20] <ChromeHacker> damn
[06:20] <ganjaherbs> davido_: did you try to run a live session from a live usb yet and see if it works then?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> davido_:  dirty trick. use setuid. or better make a sudoers entry for the speficic command
[06:21] <ChromeHacker> lol id prefer my screen just stay on lol
[06:21] <ChromeHacker> or just adjust the brightness to 0
[06:21] <davido_> lol... it's a laptop.  sometimes people want to put their laptops to sleep. ;) haha
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> i rarely use sleep or hibernate here.
[06:22] <davido_> I haven't tried running with a live usb.  That might be worth a try.  I've got a fresh one here.
[06:22] <ganjaherbs> davido_: try a clean install?
[06:22] <ganjaherbs> davido_: yeah try that then first
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> either its on and im working for hrs at a time.. or its off and in the drawer. ;)
[06:22] <xmetal> same here
[06:22] <xmetal> its "on or off"
[06:22] <davido_> But this is a known bug, right? #1184262
[06:22] <ChromeHacker> lol i have an Acer Chromebook c7 and An Acer Aspire 5349 both laptops never use sleep or Hib lol
[06:23] <davido_> Do you ever take them anywhere, ChromeH?
[06:23] <ChromeHacker> but is there a fix to my issues or is it still unknown lol Random Wifi Cuts off and on Acer Apsire
[06:23] <davido_> But why would I be contemplating a fresh install when that's never suggested as a fix here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim/+bug/1184262
[06:23] <ChromeHacker> of course lol my Chromebook weighs less than a lb lol and its super skinny if i need it i bring it but its off lol
[06:23] <ganjaherbs> ChromeHacker: is it a verified issue?
[06:24] <ganjaherbs> ChromeHacker: i mean is it all Acer ASpires or just YOURS?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> systemd? we are using systemd now? or am i thinking of a differnt systemd?
[06:24] <ChromeHacker> well this isnt this first time ive had this issue with this laptop and wifi with putting ubuntu on it
[06:25] <ganjaherbs> ChromeHacker: YOU had an issue being the key word "you"
[06:25] <davido_> Anyway, I'll give the live-usb a try tomorrow.  If that clears it up (I'm skeptical but it's worth a try) then I'll do a clean install.
[06:25] <ganjaherbs> ChromeHacker: what i mean to sy is that i bet the Acer is just fine.. it must be something going on on your end bro
[06:26] <davido_> That will suck.  ;)  It takes a bit of work to get my dev environment set up the way I like it.
[06:26] <ChromeHacker> ...nope its an Acer issue just google it
[06:26] <ganjaherbs> wow
[06:26] <ChromeHacker> Just no Fix For This Version
[06:26] <moosemachine> ok. nevermind. I found the answer in the Arch Linux documentation. Thx.
[06:26] <ganjaherbs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1115998
[06:27] <ganjaherbs> there it is
[06:28] <ganjaherbs> ChromeHacker: without an Acer here in front of me i can do nothing
[06:31] <davido_> I'm thinking of putting Win in a virtualbox just so I can use Adobe Lightroom.
[06:31] <ChromeHacker> i guess this issues is localized to Atheros Wireless Cards ...go figure Acer Favorites seems the issues doesnt persist with the 3.7.0 Kernel
[06:31] <davido_> (getting sick of dual-booting)
[06:31] <ganjaherbs> davido_: can you dual boot Ubuntu on Bootcamp on a Mac Mini?
[06:32] <ChromeHacker> lol for some reason this Machines Blue Screens on Windows OS recently Fixed the Cracked Screen and Changed Harddrive Issues Persists
[06:32] <ganjaherbs> dual boot saucy-desktop/OSX
[06:32] <davido_> I don't know.  I don't use macs.
[06:32] <ChromeHacker> ???
[06:32] <ChromeHacker> lol me neither
[06:33] <ChromeHacker> ...like for some reason now the internet has been stable -_-
[06:33] <ChromeHacker> but when i need to use it for something important -_- its starts acting up... or maybe the last fix i used was effective but i still dc'd before i open the IRC
[06:34] <davido_> CH: How's your router's firmware? :)
[06:34] <ChromeHacker> ...brb gonna smoke a bowl and think about it lol
[06:34] <ganjaherbs> davido_: no its the Acer Wireless card
[06:34] <ChromeHacker> Recently Updated but this is a New Place Just Moved so like two Different Router Models... ISPs and ehhh
[06:34] <davido_> Oh, ok.  I know my Galaxy S4 can't achieve a reliable connection with my old (expensive) dlink dir855
[06:35] <davido_> Switching to tkip fixes it, but I don't like that.
[06:35] <davido_> the symptoms were similar to yours.
[06:35] <davido_> totally different kind of device, of course. lol
[06:36] <ganjaherbs> davido_: you should have got a Nexus 4 and put Utouch on it...
[06:36] <davido_> lol :)
[06:36] <ChromeHacker> lol my Kyocera Hydro does that with some Routers
[06:36] <ChromeHacker> brb
[06:36] <davido_> I suspect it's the router -- probably implements aes incorrectly.
[06:37] <davido_> My solution has been to just log the phone into a wifi range extender that cascades off the dlink router.  That works fine.
[06:38] <topper4125> Dr_Willis, I think you're right.. XBMC looks to be the better choice.
[06:38] <ganjaherbs> davido_: are oyu saying "some router will need to e reconfigured for Ubuntu desktop to accomodate certain wireless cards" ie the Acer Aspire...?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis>  topper4125  for an arcade machine front end. i found a ArchLinux arcade-os ;)
[06:38] <topper4125> OOooh... off to google I go :)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  called 'GroovyArcade'
[06:39] <ganjaherbs> due to improper implementation of aes?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  there may be others out as well.
[06:39] <topper4125> ty ty Dr_Willis !
[06:39] <davido_> ganj: I'm saying that in my case (a totally unrelated device), reconfiguring the router to use tkip rather than aes eliminated the frequent disconnect problem.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Groovyarcade seems likeit has a focus on Arcade CAbinents/Monitors
[06:39] <ganjaherbs> davido_: oh
[06:40] <davido_> And I suspect that modern versions of ubuntu implement aes correctly, and that possibly some old 2008 router doesn't.
[06:40] <davido_> So it's one avenue to investigate.
[06:41] <ganjaherbs> davido_: so you are saying that people who buy Acer are poor and probly have old routers too so that is the BUG?
[06:41] <topper4125> Dr_Willis, could get it set up... and do some 'in the future' planning :)
[06:41] <davido_> I'm sure you don't believe that's what I'm saying.
[06:42] <ganjaherbs> davido_: it could be the connection though as strange as it sounds
[06:43] <davido_> Sure, someone could be keying his ham radio next door.
[06:45] <ganjaherbs> davido_: no you are right that it is a router issue that a lot of people are having is all its not the kernel
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> ive had the old wireless home phones disrupt my wifi befor ;)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> phone rings.. irc disconnected
[06:46] <davido_> There could be a kernel bug.  I don't know.  But the kernel is under active development.  The 5 year old router could have a problem that wasn't evident until a modern OS more correctly implemented some wifi protocol.  Stranger things have happened.
[06:47] <davido_> ...or someone could just be popping popcorn. ;)
[06:48] <ObrienDave> I have a 10 year old Linksys router. never had the problems you're describing
[06:48] <ganjaherbs> ObrienDave: yeah but oyu are using what machines?
[06:48] <davido_> When you have interoperability issues, you have to look at both sides of the conversation.
[06:48] <ganjaherbs> ObrienDave: not Acer i imagine?
[06:49] <ObrienDave> no, sony and HPs
[06:49] <ganjaherbs> ObrienDave: see... that is what its all about
[06:49] <davido_> Sure, it's possible that the kernel devs introduced a regression.
[06:50] <ObrienDave> *knew he never liked Acer anyway* ;)
[06:50] <xmetal> i have (only one "active") 2 linksys's and one netgear
[06:50] <ganjaherbs> ObrienDave: i have seen them run flawlessly on Windows :)
[06:52] <ganjaherbs> i live in Thailand and they sell a lot of Acers here.. they run fine on Windows and i have seen ones that have been dropped in toilets and run over by motorbikes and run just fine.. so.....
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> then you open a new one - and its dead on arrivle..
[06:53] <ObrienDave> well, I guess there are good and bad points about everything :)
[06:54] <ganjaherbs> Dr_Willis: yeah lol.. thats why i got my Thinkpad :)
[06:54] <davido_> hm, my wife has an acer netbook.
[06:56] <ganjaherbs> I sacrificed IPS display and backlit keys to prove that i could get this machine on a budget and still have an awesome exp. i will have to wait till 2015 for backlit keys :(
[06:57] <davido_> What's the purpose of backlit keys?
[06:57] <ObrienDave> so you can type in the dark LOL
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> they make glow in the dark and UV glowing - key board stickers ;)
[06:58] <davido_> Hm, about the only key I would consistently miss in the dark is the `
[06:58] <ObrienDave> those give me a bigger headache
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> OLED keyboards - not seen them  yet  in the real world.. heh..
[06:59] <ObrienDave> 40 years of playing with computers and I STILL have to look at the keyboard LOL
[06:59] <davido_> When I look it slows me down.
[07:00] <davido_> like trying to count while someone's shouting out numbers.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> i weird people out when im typeing in here.. and looking/talking to them at the same time... ;)
[07:00] <ChromeHacker> im glad thats one thing i dont have to do anymore is look at the keyboard and im still fairly accurate and fast
[07:00] <ganjaherbs> by the summer of 2015 the Thinkpad x series will be awesome with IPS detachable touch display stanard
[07:00] <ChromeHacker> thanks for the help guys it seems one of the fixes worked lol
[07:01] <ChromeHacker> take it easy i shall return
[07:01] <ganjaherbs> ChromeHacker: the router?
[07:01] <davido_> Actually, I *thought* I was pretty accurate on the keyboard until my 2-year-old son broke off the backspace key.
[07:03] <incognito> I tried to install php5-curl sudo apt-get install php5-curl on my apache server, then after installing curl I went to a wordpress installation and got this error: ubuntu your PHP installation apprears to be missing the MySQL extension which is requried by WordPress
[07:04] <hellangel> incognito, soo...? :)
[07:05] <davido_> Did you install the mysql extension?
[07:05] <incognito> I reinstalled php5 with this command and with this command and reconfigured php.ini. Now I'm getting no errors on some wp sites and a 500 error on others.
[07:06] <hellangel> incognito: install php5-mysql and mysql-server
[07:06] <hellangel> if you havent yet
[07:06] <incognito> sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cgi php5-cli php5-common php5-curl php5-gd php5-mysql php5-pgsql
[07:06] <hellangel> and remember to restart your httpd afterwards
[07:06] <incognito> I already have mysql server installed.
[07:06] <hellangel> try restarting apache then
[07:06] <incognito> I think I need to install php5-mysql
[07:07] <davido_> yes
[07:07] <incognito> I don't understand why that would get messed up after I installed php5-curl
[07:07] <hellangel> that is the mysql extension, either you didnt install it, or you didnt restart apache
[07:09] <davido_> I bet php has its own library installation toolchain that doesn't require the apt-get sledgehammer.
[07:10] <davido_> but this is an ubuntu channel, so apt-get :)
[07:10] <davido_> If we were on #php they would probably have a different way to arrive at the same destination.
[07:10] <ObrienDave> or aptitude
[07:10] <hellangel> davido_, well, the great thing about a packagemanager is the dependecy control, which you wouldnt have if you install stuff "manually"
[07:11] <davido_> Yes, there's always that. ;)  Some dependency gets broken, you install "manually", and the broken dependency becomes a blocking issue.
[07:12] <linu> hi i have WUBT-132GN(BT) module,i googled linux driver for the module,but could not find can you tell me where i can get?
[07:12] <hellangel> davido_, yeah and we are back in the debian world of 1995 :p you want somethin? compile it yourself! oh, everything needs different versions? you gonna have a fun time
[07:13] <davido_> I kind of come from a Perl background, and we tend to "leave system Perl alone.  Install an alternate Perl via perlbrew, and use the cpan toolchain for modules"
[07:14] <somsip> davido_: there is nothing like that for the base installation of php. It does not coexist with other versions and modules.
[07:14] <hellangel> yeah, well most of the time you can  "tell" software where to find it dependencies, but sometimes you cant, and then the version mismatches drive you completly insane
[07:15] <davido_> Yes, we still get into dependency hell sometimes.  Often we'll put our dependencies under version control so that we can roll back if we discover breakage.
[07:15] <hellangel> somsip, it can though, when ./configure ing stuff, you can define your own target directory to make install it into and tell the software having php as dependency where to find the laternate version
[07:16] <incognito> All my databases are still in my mysql database... everything is there. I tried to install php5-mysql and it says it's already installed
[07:16] <hellangel> incognito, again, did you restart your apache server?
[07:16] <somsip> hellangel: I think you know this is not the ubuntu supported way. There are things *like* virtualenv for PHP too, but they require compiling form source. It just won't get supported here
[07:17] <incognito> for some reason let me do that again.. I've been restarting it, but this time I might have forgot.
[07:17] <hellangel> somsip, i am actually quite new to ubuntu, but this is not the way for many distributions who package different versions (the most demanded ones at least)
[07:17] <somsip> incognito: run phpinfo() in a php script and make sure the plugins you need are enabled
[07:19] <incognito> yeah, okay thanks I'll do that.
[07:19] <incognito> I just went to a different page and it works.
[07:19] <incognito> for some reason some of my pages are getting server errors
[07:20] <hellangel> maybe you got redirected to an error message and you refreshed that error message :P
[07:20] <incognito> apperently it has to do with the individual sites. so I think it will be easier to diagnose.... now that I see what's going on
[07:20] <somsip> incognito: tail the apache error log (hopefully PHP will dump into that) to look for reasons
[07:21] <hellangel> somsip, and by quiet new i mean 5 days :)
[07:21] <davido_> 5 days with Ubuntu? Or 5 days with #ubuntu?
[07:21] <hellangel> both actually
[07:21] <davido_> congrats. :)
[07:21] <incognito> is tail a command. ?I will have to look that up.
[07:21] <hellangel> im coming from fedora =)
[07:22] <somsip> incognito: tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log (probably)
[07:22] <davido_> tail -f log/path...
[07:22] <hellangel> incognito, yeah, with the -f parameter, you can read a log file on the fly
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> thers also colortail  :) now in technicolor!
[07:22] <incognito> somsip thanks
[07:22] <hellangel> it will read the last (i think) 5 lines and watches it for new content
[07:23] <somsip> hellangel: tail -n N will show the last N lines
[07:23] <hellangel> somsip, actually tail -N is enough for that purpose
[07:23] <hellangel> tail -20 file.log for example
[07:23] <hellangel> same with head
[07:23] <somsip> hellangel: hellangel so it is. thank you (though I have an alias anyway)
[07:24] <hellangel> what i found out lately is also interesting, you can use tar xf without specifying what type of archive it is, and it will autodetect it :)
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[07:24] <hellangel> i never knew that, im still auto typing xfvj/z
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> unp foo.zip/tar/tgz/bz2/arc/   ;)
[07:25] <hellangel> well, tar has more options :)
[07:25] <incognito> somsip thanks
[07:26] <incognito> yep, it's showing the error. I turned the display_error On in php.ini, but it's not diplaying on the page
[07:26] <somsip> incognito: overriden in wordpress/wp-config.php IIRC
[07:26] <hellangel> ^
[07:26] <incognito> I saved the php.ini file in /usr/share/php5/   is that the correct error
[07:27] <incognito> i mean folder
[07:27] <somsip> incognito: php.ini should live in /etc/php5/apache2/
[07:27] <hellangel> incognito, i recommend you to "updatedb" to update the indices  and "locate filename" to locate it.. like "locate php.ini"
[07:27] <incognito> okay.. that's why my errors are not displaying