[04:51] <mindspin> samba haha
[04:51] <TiMiDo> skywater, samba
[04:51] <TiMiDo> or gnome
[04:51] <thoreauputic> jamey: sorry I'm about to sign off - 1 am here :)
[04:51] <Hylas_> what's the module called to apt-get audio codec mpeg layer 2/3?
[04:52] <jamey> thoreauputic, ok no problem :)
[04:54] <microhaxo> guys, i dloaded a new kernel patch : 2.6.12 how do i install it?
[04:55] <TiMiDo> microhaxo, read the README or INSTALL
[04:57] <microhaxo> doesnt come with one
[04:57] <microhaxo> patch-2.6.12.bz2
[04:57] <microhaxo> just comes with htis
[04:57] <microhaxo> patch-2.6.12
[04:57] <microhaxo> seems like a txt based file?
[04:58] <TiMiDo> what extension is it?
[04:58] <Chacal> exit
[04:58] <microhaxo> doesnt have one?
[04:58] <cazabam> microhaxo: it sounds like a normal diff - what is the first line?
[04:59] <microhaxo> hrm ill open it in txt editor
[04:59] <microhaxo> yea
[04:59] <microhaxo> diff
[04:59] <sly> microhaxo you still here whining ?
[04:59] <microhaxo> no
[04:59] <microhaxo> its a diff
[04:59] <microhaxo> how would i install this?
[05:00] <cazabam> microhaxo: you'll need to show me the first line - it's all relative to the path
[05:00] <microhaxo> k
[05:00] <microhaxo> hrm
[05:00] <sly> correct me if im wrong but this morning befor i went out you was complaining about linux........... and wanting to reinstall windows........ now you want to install kernal patchs ?
[05:00] <microhaxo> diff --git a/CREDITS b/CREDITS
[05:00] <microhaxo> --- a/CREDITS
[05:00] <microhaxo> +++ b/CREDITS
[05:00] <microhaxo> sly
[05:00] <microhaxo> stay out of it
[05:00] <TiMiDo> lol
[05:01] <sly> but is that not correct
[05:01] <Zukero> hello
[05:01] <Zukero> i have a problem with ssh
[05:01] <sly> you was whineing about all sorts of things from ati surport to windows never crashs
[05:01] <microhaxo> no it isnt, i want windows, but am i going to get it any time soon
[05:01] <TiMiDo> Zukero, what is it?
[05:01] <cazabam> microhaxo: hmmm... looks like it was made in the source directory
[05:01] <Zukero> how can i make my system accept ssh connection
[05:01] <microhaxo> thats bad huh cazabam
[05:01] <TiMiDo> Zukero, dpkg-reconfigure sshd
[05:01] <cazabam> microhaxo: no, not really
[05:01] <Black-whIsp> hey whats the standart root password???
[05:01] <mindspin> Zukero sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[05:01] <microhaxo> :D then how can i run this biach
[05:02] <cazabam> microhaxo: make sure you have a backup of your kernel source before applying it!
[05:02] <microhaxo> err
[05:02] <TiMiDo> Black-whIsp, huh?
[05:02] <microhaxo> how do i do that
[05:02] <microhaxo> lol
[05:02] <cazabam> microhaxo: then run: patch -p0 < patch-2.6.1
[05:02] <sly> Black-whIsp ..... your root pass3word on ubuntu is the password for the 1st account you setup
[05:02] <Black-whIsp> TiMiDo: it didnt ask me to make a root password
[05:02] <cazabam> microhaxo: from inside the source directory
[05:02] <microhaxo> k
[05:02] <microhaxo> cazabam
[05:02] <microhaxo> this was bziped
[05:02] <TiMiDo> Black-whIsp, do su and then do passwd and set up a password
[05:02] <cazabam> yup
[05:02] <Black-whIsp> sly: nope.. have tryed that. :)
[05:02] <microhaxo> i didnt compile it
[05:03] <cazabam> what was?
[05:03] <microhaxo> the kernel, i didnt compile it
[05:03] <microhaxo> i dloaded it
[05:03] <microhaxo> so?
[05:03] <microhaxo> do i just cd to home
[05:03] <microhaxo> and run that
[05:03] <cazabam> you need the kernel source before you can apply that patch
[05:03] <microhaxo> lol
[05:03] <microhaxo> k
[05:03] <microhaxo> hrm
[05:03] <cazabam> binary patches come in the form of modules
[05:03] <cazabam> that can be built against the kernel headers
[05:03] <cazabam> this actually modifies the kernel source
[05:03] <microhaxo> where is it cazabam?
[05:03] <microhaxo> http://www.kernel.org/
[05:03] <refuze2looze> i get Segmentation Fault sometimes in firefox.. would it help maybe if i compile it from source?
[05:03] <cazabam> you can get it in the repos
[05:04] <cazabam> can't remember off hand - 2 secs
[05:04] <microhaxo> not mine
[05:04] <microhaxo> lol
[05:04] <justin> Black-whIsp: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+root+password
[05:05] <cazabam> microhaxo: it's linux-source-2.6.xxxx where xxxx is the version you want
[05:05] <cazabam> just apt-get linux-source to get latest, I think
[05:05] <microhaxo> i only have .11
[05:05] <cazabam> ok
[05:05] <microhaxo> in package manager
[05:05] <cazabam> also will need make-kpkg to build the new kernel binary package
[05:06] <cazabam> there's a few threads/howtos on ubuntuforums
[05:06] <microhaxo> k
[05:06] <microhaxo> thanks
[05:06] <cazabam> no probs
[05:06] <Zukero> thanks guys
[05:06] <TiMiDo> np zuj
[05:06] <TiMiDo> *Zukero
[05:08] <Black-whIsp> justin: THX
[05:10] <SS2> hello @ all :)
[05:11] <SS2> keiner da?
[05:11] <micro>  god dammit cant anything go RIGHT AT ALL! i install new headers
[05:11] <micro> now tuxracer runs at a nifty 3 fps
[05:11] <micro> Y Q# GTHQWFA!!!~$
[05:12] <mindspin> english SS2 ;-)
[05:13] <Seveas> micro, I thought we have been polite enough
[05:13] <Seveas> and that I have warned you several times
[05:13] <Seveas> now get the hell out
[05:13] <refuze2looze> how do i start firefox with gdb?
[05:14] <SS2> was english???
[05:14] <SS2> achso
[05:14] <SS2> kann auch deutsch
[05:14] <mindspin> genau
[05:14] <SS2> oder kannst du kein englisch?
[05:14] <SS2> oh oops im in the wrong room, hehehe
[05:14] <Seveas> SS2, fuer, deutschsprachige hilfe, #ubuntu-de bitte
[05:14] <Benjamin_L> wie, ubuntu pltzlich deutsch ? ^^
[05:15] <Seveas> Benjamin_L, nein :)
[05:15] <Benjamin_L> ^^
[05:15] <Seveas> refuze2looze, `gdb mozilla-firefox`
[05:15] <Seveas> but  running with gdb makes it painfully slow :)
[05:15] <kvidell> sun.com eh? Say hi to Cantrill for me ;P (He'd actually have no idea who I am but I saw him speak at BayLISA last week)
[05:15] <refuze2looze> Seveas, nevermind i got it using firefox -debug
[05:15] <Seveas> :)
[05:17] <Benjamin_L> a general question. is it necessary to "exit" a root terminal or is it enough to just close it ?
[05:17] <TiMiDo> is not good to leave it open
[05:17] <Seveas> close means exiting :)
[05:17] <TiMiDo> oh sorry closing it (:
[05:18] <cazabam> Benjamin_L: as long as the login process dies, the manner of it's death is unimportant :)
[05:18] <Benjamin_L> ok
[05:18] <kvidell> oo.. caffeine and nyquil is a funky trip.. d'oh!
[05:19] <nalioth_wrkn> kvidell: is that anything like kaffeine and noatun?
[05:19] <kvidell> :-P
[05:19] <kvidell> this is what I get for being oblivious and addicted to coffee.
[05:21] <owlmanatt> Anyone here had any success setting up a Linksys WUSB11 wireless-b network adapter under Ubuntu?
[05:21] <owlmanatt> There seems to be a driver for it for linux, but I'm getting horribly confused with all of the stuff I'm finding on google
[05:22] <k3pp0> hi all!!
[05:24] <Seveas> hi
[05:24] <k3pp0> just testin irc:)
[05:24] <Seveas> :)
[05:25] <queuetue> Where is the "#$!#@ why didn't they set up alsa properly?" howto? :)  I know I've seen it before..
[05:25] <Seveas> queuetue, aoogle for #$!$@ :)
[05:26] <Seveas> or search for alsa at the wiki :)
[05:26] <despeeh> esound :)
[05:26] <k3pp0> lol
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm bored ! breezys up to date, I've got nothing to dist-upgrade
[05:26] <owlmanatt> Kamping_Kaiser: rm -rf /etc and reboot then, since you're so bored. =)
[05:27] <despeeh> kamping you can delete your programs and download again :)
[05:27] <jbroome> Kamping_Kaiser: play with debian sid, i'm sure that'll be a challenge. :)
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> owlmanatt, but what about t3h l33tzor pr0nz?
[05:27] <owlmanatt> You store pr0n in /etc?!
[05:27] <jbroome> that gets backed up, obviously
[05:27] <owlmanatt> The Linux Standards Base people would flay you...
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol jbroom,
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> where should it go?
[05:28] <Osiris> Hi im thinking of switching to ubunt from windows xp, i have experience with debian, and was just wondering if anyone had successfully got  a all in one printer working in ubuntu as i have checked google and nobody seems to have had any luck
[05:28] <Zukero> how can I retreive my ip adress from console ?
[05:28] <nalioth_wrkn> Osiris: try the LiveCD
[05:28] <cazabam> osiris: which one? if it's HP then they're all fully supported - by HP!
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> osiris linuxprinting.org.... is it listed as supported?
[05:28] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, /var/pr0n/
[05:28] <cazabam> osiris: if epson, bit flakey
[05:28] <Osiris> Kamping_Kaiser, no its not on the list at linuxprinting.org
[05:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, thanks seveas :D
[05:28] <cazabam> osiris: if lexmark, forget it :(
[05:29] <Seveas> :)
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> osiris. good luck with it... I'm off to bed.
[05:29] <mindspin> zukero ifconfig
[05:29] <Zukero> thx
[05:29] <Osiris> cazabam, Yeah its a lexmark p3150
[05:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all... have fun wiht the old rm -rf foo
[05:29] <cazabam> osiris: ah...
[05:29] <Osiris> Looking a bit grim heh
[05:30] <cazabam> yeah :(
[05:30] <akrame> Hi all
[05:30] <akrame> is someone here ?
[05:30] <Seveas> no
[05:30] <mindspin> lots
[05:30] <akrame> please i have a problem with X
[05:30] <cazabam> osiris, apparently someone managed to pull a sheet through once :-/
[05:30] <Seveas> akrame, look at the topic: just ask :)
[05:30] <cazabam> oops
[05:31] <mdipi> hey all
[05:31] <mdipi> when I run 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:32] <Seveas> yes...?
[05:32] <mdipi> sorry hold on
[05:32] <mdipi> i gotta grab the erro
[05:32] <Seveas> :)
[05:32] <carlFK> an app is erroring with "Unable to open /dev/dsp: Permission denied"
[05:32] <mdipi> *error
[05:32] <akrame> hi all , i can't lunch my Xorg , i have an error : xinitrc: line9:/etc/X11/Xsession no such file or directory
[05:32] <Seveas> uou can paste it on paste.ubuntulinux.nl too :)
[05:32] <carlFK> I am guessing that is because a sound server is using it?
[05:32] <Osiris> carlFK, is your sound working properley by any chance?
[05:33] <Seveas> carlFK, correct
[05:33] <akrame> Help me , please
[05:33] <akrame> please
[05:33] <Seveas> teach the erroring app to use esd
[05:33] <mdipi> This is the error i get:
[05:33] <mdipi> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:33] <mdipi> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:33] <Seveas> or disable esd while runnong it...
[05:33] <Osiris> carlFK, what app is it?
[05:33] <akrame> hi all , i can't lunch my Xorg , i have an error : xinitrc: line9:/etc/X11/Xsession no such file or directory
[05:33] <Seveas> mdipi, that's only part of the output, paste the complete output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl please
[05:33] <_eXoDuS> akrame: stop that, one time is enough
[05:33] <cazabam> akrame: does the file exist?
[05:33] <carlFK> aplay /usr/share/hwdb-client/sound.wav
[05:33] <carlFK> that works
[05:33] <Seveas> akrame: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[05:34] <carlFK> app that is erroring is yate (voip phone)
[05:34] <akrame> cazabam no
[05:34] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: you should run an apt bot here :)
[05:34] <justin> akrame: what did you do?
[05:34] <Seveas> akrame, have you by any chance removed /etc/X11/Xsession?
[05:34] <Osiris> carlFK, id try doing what Seveas said .
[05:34] <cazabam> akrame: sounds like X is b0rked - is this a fresh install?
[05:35] <akrame> yes
[05:35] <akrame> no
[05:35] <akrame> i've just installed x
[05:35] <Seveas> akrame, I hope you did not try breezy...
[05:35] <carlFK> Osiris, thanks (if you hadn't have said that, I would have mised it)
[05:35] <Seveas> and taht you installed X from the *official* Ubuntu repositories...
[05:35] <douglas> If I want to mount an ext3 volume so that all users can read and write it, what would be the fstab mount option?
[05:35] <akrame> no
[05:35] <Seveas> douglas, simply mount it
[05:35] <akrame> this is hoary base system
[05:35] <Osiris> carlFK, heh no probs.
[05:36] <akrame> without X
[05:36] <Seveas> douglas, and run chmod -R 777 /the/mount/point
[05:36] <_eXoDuS> ...
[05:36] <_eXoDuS> without X?
[05:36] <Seveas> akrame, how did you install X?
[05:36] <ThE__OnE> whats the link for the bin folder?
[05:36] <_eXoDuS> and you are complaining X doesn't run?
[05:36] <akrame> apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:36] <douglas> What about new files?
[05:36] <Seveas> akrame, duh...
[05:36] <akrame> and x-window-system-core
[05:36] <akrame> and gdm
[05:36] <Seveas> akrame, the X server alone is not enough..
[05:36] <ThE__OnE> nerver mind
[05:36] <Seveas> try gnome-desktop-environment
[05:37] <akrame> no
[05:37] <akrame> i don't want gnome
[05:37] <douglas> Seveas: What about new files, will I be able to write to it then?
[05:37] <carlFK> esd was running, I killed it.  but same error in yate
[05:37] <akrame> kde neither
[05:37] <Seveas> or whatever DE you like
[05:37] <akrame> i want enlightenement
[05:37] <ThE__OnE> gnome-desktop-environment? whats that?
[05:37] <cazabam> akrame: you can install X via any you want
[05:37] <_eXoDuS> ah
[05:37] <Seveas> akrame, install it then...
[05:37] <_eXoDuS> the guy that was on before
[05:37] <cazabam> akrame: just apt-get the DE ...
[05:37] <_eXoDuS> that can't even spell englightenment
[05:37] <akrame> _eXoDuS:  :)
[05:38] <akrame> any idea about why i don't have Xsession ?
[05:38] <Seveas> douglas, you need to set the group of the folder to users iirc
[05:38] <Seveas> akrame, because you didn't install a WM or DE...
[05:38] <akrame> i've install gdm and enlight...
[05:38] <Zukero> hmm
[05:38] <douglas> Seveas: How do I do that?
[05:38] <Zukero> maybe you can help me again
[05:39] <_eXoDuS> akrame: what makes you think gdm works with englightenment?
[05:39] <Zukero> this my problem is with Eclipse
[05:39] <akrame> nothin :)
[05:39] <_eXoDuS> akrame: ah ok
[05:39] <Seveas> akrame, you need to have xorg-common installed
[05:39] <Zukero> it doesn't find startup.jar
[05:39] <Zukero> but it is here
[05:39] <akrame> Seveas:  i have xorg-common
[05:39] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: i dont think gdm includes a session script for e
[05:39] <Seveas> akrame, well, then you installed it the wrong way...
[05:40] <carlFK> how do I tell what group a user is in?
[05:40] <Seveas> _eXhumed, the enlightenment package should provide that
[05:40] <lukus001> I just followed this post at ubuntu about install gimpshop, i followed it up to the point where it says "make" and i'm getting a "no rule to make targert 'install' " error,    what am i suposed to do?
[05:40] <Seveas> carlFK, groups username
[05:40] <ThE__OnE> how can i move something to the bin folder with terminal?
[05:40] <carlFK> Seveas, thanks
[05:40] <akrame> apt-get xorg-common
[05:40] <akrame> simple !
[05:40] <Seveas> Thanatermesis, mv whatever_you_want ~/.Trash
[05:40] <TiMiDo> ThE__OnE, mv
[05:41] <_eXoDuS> akrame: what about the install ?
[05:41] <VincentX> hi
[05:42] <akrame> which install ?
[05:42] <_eXoDuS> akrame: apt-get install xorg-common
[05:42] <lukus001> I keep getting a "no rule to make target 'install'" when following this post here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40427&page=1&pp=10 fo install GIMPshop... it tells me to paste "make" in the terminal...
[05:43] <chrissturm> exodus: what about the sudo ? :P
[05:43] <_eXoDuS> chrissturm: im assuming he is root
[05:43] <akrame> _eXoDuS:  done
[05:43] <_eXoDuS> chrissturm: i dont use sudo at al
[05:43] <akrame> wait i'll remove everythin
[05:43] <akrame> and try again
[05:44] <ThE__OnE> where is the startup folder located?
[05:44] <Tomcat_> Startup folder?
[05:44] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: the what what?
[05:45] <Tomcat_> ThE__OnE: Automatically opening apps at Gnome login is in System=>Prefs=>Sessions
[05:45] <_eXoDuS> ah
[05:45] <_eXoDuS> rofl
[05:45] <_eXoDuS> startup folder...
[05:45] <ThE__OnE> i have a random wallpaper change and it tells me to put the file in the startup folder
[05:45] <Tomcat_> ThE__OnE: Okay, put the command in that Sessions thingy then.
[05:45] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: you sure that's not for windows?
[05:46] <cazabam> chrissturm: did you get imagemagick to play? I am at work so I had to go do something :(
[05:46] <Tomcat_> But it sounds like windows, because there's no Linux Window Manager with a startup folder. :o
[05:46] <ThE__OnE> exodus, are you sure your on UBUNTU?
[05:46] <chrissturm> cazabam, thanks, worked great!
[05:46] <cd_dc> what about KDE
[05:46] <cazabam> cool :)
[05:46] <Tomcat_> cd_dc: Isn't it different in KDE as well?
[05:46] <tread> hi .. is anyone here from europe? do you know if hp has started selling the promised 100% ubuntu compatible laptops yet?
[05:46] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: being a linux user for over 8 years, yes. i'm pretty sure where i am
[05:47] <cd_dc> I think it has a folder
[05:47] <Tomcat_> tread: My HP laptop is 100% Ubuntu compatible. :P
[05:47] <Seveas> tread, well, the hp nc6000 which i use is fully compatible :)
[05:47] <Seveas> including the led in the mute button!
[05:47] <Tomcat_> tread: Haven't found anything that wouldn't work so far... but I never tested everything
[05:47] <chrissturm> tread, i think that breezy will be the certified distro, but i am not 100% szre
[05:47] <ThE__OnE> having comon sense, i know what code iam looking it by "reading"
[05:47] <Zukero> can someone here help me launching Eclipse under ubuntu ?
[05:47] <Tomcat_> Seveas: Yeah same with nx9030 :)
[05:47] <Tomcat_> Even the WLAN LED! :)
[05:47] <tread> so do they sell it without windows then? thats the question really, i'm planning to buy one but cant buy one without windows here in the US
[05:48] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: what common sense are you talking about when you ask about a start folder? (which is what windows has to start applications)
[05:48] <Seveas> Tomcat_, well, the wlan led is all hardware
[05:48] <ThE__OnE> exodus 1 sec
[05:48] <Tomcat_> Seveas: Not mine... mine is software.
[05:48] <tread> so i was thinking of getting a friend to buy and get when he comes here
[05:48] <Seveas> I just got the mutebutton led to work with an amixer trick :)
[05:48] <Seveas> Tomcat_, ah, mine is pure hardware..
[05:48] <InitMass> is it possible to choose which soundcard realplayer should use?
[05:48] <Tomcat_> Seveas: I have to start ipw2200 with led=1 or something. :]
[05:49] <Seveas> lol :)
[05:49] <cazabam> zukero: what's the issue?
[05:49] <Zukero> eclipse doesn't find it's companiion startup.jar
[05:49] <Zukero> but
[05:49] <Zukero> it is here right where needed
[05:49] <chrissturm> zukero: what java version?
[05:50] <Zukero> with right owner and rwx mods
[05:50] <Razor-X> netsplit!
[05:50] <Zukero> 1.4.2
[05:50] <cazabam> are you launching eclipse from within it's own directory ?
[05:50] <Zukero> yep
[05:50] <cazabam> hmm
[05:50] <tread> focus people :) is it possible to buy an hp without windows in europe at the moment?
[05:50] <Razor-X> tread: doubt it
[05:50] <Zukero> well
[05:50] <Zukero> i checked
[05:50] <Zukero> and for java
[05:51] <ThE__OnE> -exodus, would you mind looking at http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/clasqm/ranwp.sh
[05:51] <tread> ah shucks. thanks for the answer ..
[05:51] <Razor-X> HP is very Windows bundled
[05:51] <Zukero> i have SableVM 1.1.8
[05:51] <ThE__OnE> _exodus, would you mind looking at http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/clasqm/ranwp.sh
[05:51] <Zukero> i tried ./eclipse with and without root console
[05:51] <Zukero> and even the double click on the executable
[05:52] <Zukero> always the same error
[05:52] <Zukero> The Eclipse executable launcher was unable to locate its
[05:52] <Zukero> companion startup.jar file (in the same directory as the executable).
[05:52] <cazabam> zukero: not tried with sablevm before
[05:52] <Razor-X> Zukero: try googling
[05:53] <Zukero> what is the package name for the Sun JRE in synaptics, if there is any ?
[05:53] <cazabam> zukero: info here: http://sablevm.org/wiki/Eclipse
[05:53] <Zukero> Razor-X : what's googling ?
[05:53] <cazabam> zukero: there is a special script
[05:53] <Razor-X> Zukero: sudo apt-get search foo
[05:53] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: i dont see a startup folder mentioned anywhere
[05:53] <Razor-X> Zukero: ................
[05:53] <Zukero> ok thx cazabam
[05:53] <Zukero> ok
[05:53] <Razor-X> you've never heard of the search engine google?
[05:53] <Zukero> Razor-X
[05:53] <Zukero> :)
[05:54] <cazabam> zukero: the gist of it seems to be to but startup.jar in the classpath with a -cp option
[05:54] <Zukero> i thought it was some script or so
[05:54] <ThE__OnE> well he said put it with your startup things, adn so i thuogh he was refering about the startup folder
[05:54] <_eXoDuS> there's no STARTUP FOLDER in UNIX
[05:54] <_eXoDuS> what part of that you don't get?
[05:55] <dim_witted_kid> hello
[05:55] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: you said the app said 'startup folder' now it means that you made that up
[05:55] <cazabam> zukero: yeah... just looking how it works...
[05:55] <dim_witted_kid> how do i change my screen from 640x480 to 1024x768?
[05:55] <dim_witted_kid> i just installed ubuntu
[05:55] <ThE__OnE> did you read my above comment?
[05:55] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: what it's telling you is to add it to either crontab or your DE's startup settings, which as you were already told are in system->preferences->session
 well he said put it with your startup things, adn so i thuogh he was refering about the startup folder
[05:56] <ThE__OnE> settings?
[05:56] <Titan3025> hi all
[05:56] <ThE__OnE> now you lie
[05:56] <cmihai> Is anyone familiar with USB IrDA dongles (Like for transfering data to / from a Nokia telephone for example). I know the Gnokii program has a few things for transferring data, but I'm not sure if Linux supports such devices.
[05:56] <_eXoDuS> yes i did read your comment
[05:56] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid: have you tried System > Preferences > Screen resolution ?
[05:56] <ThE__OnE> "Then put it in a crontab or with your startup programs"
[05:56] <ThE__OnE> and program are usually put in a folder
[05:57] <ThE__OnE> the end.
[05:57] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: yes, in WINDOWS
[05:57] <ThE__OnE> well DID you read my above comment?
[05:57] <ThE__OnE> iam a begginer in Linux
[05:57] <dim_witted_kid> the only option was 640x480, but my cars supports higher resolution than that
[05:57] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: again? are you utterly stupid?
[05:57] <Titan3025> Sometimes the / filesystem is busy on shutdowns or reboots. therefor is is not umounted correctly. Any1 know this problem?
[05:57] <ThE__OnE> your just a troll
[05:57] <chrissturm> you guys should calm down
[05:58] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, i think you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:58] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: uhh, yeah, im a trolll.. sigh, carry one
[05:58] <ThE__OnE> no need to carry, only a basket is needed
[05:58] <dim_witted_kid> i did... my system crashed
[05:58] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: I would suggest windows XP, it's what fits your IQ
[05:58] <Zukero> cazabam : how do i run such a script ?
[05:58] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, what exactly did you do?
[05:58] <ThE__OnE> i would suggest mandrake for person like you
[05:58] <ninwa> _eXoDuS, That's unneccasary.
[05:59] <holycow> I'm finally starting to get decently productive on gnome 2.10 as a development platform
[05:59] <Titan3025> hehe
[05:59] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: being a debian developer, no thanks, i stick with debian
[05:59] <holycow> its really kinda  cool in terms of workflow
[05:59] <cazabam> zukero: you need  to create a script in the eclipse folder and create a text file (call it eclipse-sable or something)
[05:59] <cazabam> zukero: put the script from the wiki into that file and make the file executable
[05:59] <dim_witted_kid> i removed all other sub entries for other bit depth setting and retained only the 24 bit depth setting and retained only the 1024x768 resolution
[06:00] <_eXoDuS> ninwa: i know, but he's pissed me off
[06:00] <dim_witted_kid> after that x would not start and i could not log in
[06:00] <Zukero> ok
[06:00] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, what's your gfx card and what drivers are you using?
[06:00] <cazabam> zukero: make sure you update JAVA and ECLIPSE_HOME lines at the top of the file to point to your real java and eclipse
[06:00] <Titan3025> Can any1 help me with this unclean shutdown problem on Ubuntu (where the / device is busy)? Plz
[06:00] <Zukero> yeah np
[06:00] <ninwa> _eXoDuS, Didn't you see the "Don't feed the Troll" sign? Hehe, he'll go back to his bridge soon enough.
[06:00] <ninwa> :o)
[06:00] <dim_witted_kid> nvidia tnt riva 64
[06:00] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, ThE__OnE and everyone please cool down...
[06:01] <dim_witted_kid> and i'm not sure about the driver
[06:01] <_eXoDuS> ninwa: heh
[06:01] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, under Section "Device", what's the "Driver"?
[06:01] <zukalk> in the xorg.conf file, that is
[06:02] <dim_witted_kid> sorry i don't remember
[06:02] <zukalk> well, check it
[06:02] <dim_witted_kid> i can't log on ubuntu
[06:02] <dim_witted_kid> i can't log in
[06:02] <Razor-X> why can't you log in?
[06:02] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, login using recovery mode
[06:02] <ThE__OnE> how do i move a lot of my wallpapers i dwonloaded to the backgrounds folder?
[06:02] <Seveas> dim_witted_kid, you can login on the text console if the graphical user interface doesn't work
[06:02] <Razor-X> just because X fails to load, Ubuntu still works
[06:03] <zukalk> right
[06:03] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, sudo mv -i *.jpg /use/share/backgrounds/
[06:03] <Razor-X> ThE__OnE: same as you do any other moving operation
[06:03] <ThE__OnE> a lot
[06:03] <dim_witted_kid> how do i do that?
[06:03] <ThE__OnE> like over 30
[06:03] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, please...
[06:03] <Seveas> over 30 isn't a lot
[06:03] <Razor-X> ThE__OnE: this isn't Windows
[06:03] <_eXoDuS> some people shouldn't be allowed to get on irc :/
[06:03] <Razor-X> in Linux, you don't transfer things one at a time
[06:03] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, stop it...
[06:03] <Razor-X> haven't you ever used DOS?
[06:03] <_eXoDuS> instead they should be locked in a room with a big unix manual
[06:03] <ThE__OnE> is there a command where you can move the contains of a folder to another?
[06:04] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: hey, im not pulling names
[06:04] <gleapsite> hello
[06:04] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, when you start Ubuntu and X crashes, press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[06:04] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, please read what we say
[06:04] <Razor-X> ThE__OnE: ever used wildcards?.... or DOS?
[06:04] <Seveas> of you want all the details: man mv
[06:04] <Seveas> if*
[06:04] <drspin> hey all -- I'm trying to make my multimedia keys work in XFCE -- I've created .Xmodmap -- added it to .xsession and it doesn't work :/
[06:04] <ThE__OnE> kk
[06:04] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, no but I am
[06:04] <dim_witted_kid> thanks zukalk
[06:04] <Seveas> keep it down, this is a newbie-friendly channel
[06:04] <dim_witted_kid> you've been very helpful
[06:05] <zukalk> you're wellcome
[06:05] <carlFK> user is in the audio group, ess is not running, but I still get "Unable to open /dev/dsp: Permission denied"
[06:05] <Razor-X> drspin: try setxkbmap
[06:05] <amonkey> on my laptop, i was untaring something and all of a sudden it starting beeping like crazy and when it was done (i didn't stop it), all the characters i type are wrong. they come up as symbols.
[06:05] <zukalk> dim_witted_kid, just tell me how it went
[06:05] <carlFK> amonkey, sounds like you untar ed it to stdout (the console)
[06:05] <Seveas> amonkey, how exactly did you untar?
[06:05] <Razor-X> Seveas: still, I tihnk Wildcard usage is a neccessary prerequisite before Linux
[06:05] <drspin> Razor-X: Just tun it?
[06:06] <ThE__OnE> _exodus, for your info i got Linux Bible 2005 that i orders, and iam jsut waiting for it
[06:06] <Razor-X> drspin: add in keysyms, basically
[06:06] <ThE__OnE> ordered*
[06:06] <mbirkis> where is the ubuntu torrent?
[06:06] <cjs> one LED left! damned mail ;)
[06:06] <ThE__OnE> no one is born with knwing everything like you _exodus
[06:06] <carlFK> how can I test that my user has access to /dev/dsp?
[06:06] <bob2> mbirkis: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[06:06] <amonkey> carlFK, you're right, i just realizedi forgot to pipe it
[06:06] <mbirkis> bob2: thnx
[06:06] <Razor-X> Seveas: my dad taught me about wildcards back when I was 6 ;)
[06:06] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, good, read that book carefully :)
[06:07] <ThE__OnE> yes i wil
[06:07] <carlFK> amonkey, normaly you don't need to pipe - you doing something odd?
[06:07] <dim_witted_kid> i will
[06:07] <amonkey> carlFK, any idea how to uncharacter it? should i just reboot? commands work even i f a can't read them
[06:07] <dim_witted_kid> thanks :)
[06:07] <zukalk> :)
[06:07] <amonkey> carlFK, i was following a guide and it said to gzip -d < *.tgz | tar vxf -
[06:07] <_eXoDuS> ThE__OnE: no, but some lucky of us have learnt to read and pay attention
[06:07] <carlFK> amonkey, yeah... there is a command to send a reset command to the console...
[06:07] <chrissturm> whats the name of the nokia telephone that runs gnome?
[06:07] <bob2> it's not a phone
[06:08] <bob2> but it's the Nokia 770
[06:08] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, for the last time, keep it down...
[06:08] <_eXoDuS> he's the one that keeps bringing it up
[06:08] <zukalk> yeah, stop acting like kids
[06:08] <wendy> whats a good stats OSD for ubuntu? Is there one that I can install with apt-get?
[06:08] <zukalk> lol
[06:08] <Seveas> please cool down...
[06:09] <drspin> Razor-X: It seems that when I try and bind the keys in XFCE, they are all being read as the same key...
[06:09] <Seveas> amonkey, that guide was bad, you should use tar zxvf *.tgz
[06:09] <Razor-X> drspin: you sure you have the right Keysyms?
[06:09] <Cygnia> Does anyone know of a way to get Linux to boot on an iMac G5 (Rev. B)?
[06:09] <Seveas> saves you a pipe and these shell problems :)
[06:09] <Razor-X> I'm not sure how you bind keys in XFce, actually, I was talking about a global X bind
[06:09] <Seveas> wendy, what do you mean with "stats OSD"?
[06:10] <amonkey> Seveas, is that better than the other way? i think the only reason it didn't work was that i didn't pipe it.
[06:10] <amonkey> carlFK, reset did the trick
[06:10] <Seveas> carlFK, it saves you starting a process and using a pipe
[06:10] <justin> amonkey: what is this "guide" that you are following?
[06:10] <Seveas> and imho it's cleaner :)
[06:10] <carlFK> amonkey, oh good, I couldn't find the command I was looking for
[06:10] <TiMiDo> he
[06:10] <carlFK> Seveas, guessing you meant that for someone else
[06:11] <amonkey> carlFK, according to this, it's the same as echo -e \\033c
[06:11] <amonkey> justin, building xfree from source
[06:11] <drspin> Razor-X: xev to find them and direct copy and paste from /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
[06:11] <Razor-X> just to let you know amonkey, piping is ineffecient
[06:11] <Seveas> carlFK, eh yes, for amonkey :)
[06:11] <justin> amonkey: why would you go and do something dumb like that?
[06:11] <Razor-X> Dreadshoot: yeah, that's global X, i'm pretty sure
[06:11] <Razor-X> errr
[06:11] <carlFK> Seveas, I am trying to get yate to work with dsp and gettign "permission denied"
[06:12] <Razor-X> damned tab-complete!
[06:12] <Razor-X> drspin, sorry
[06:12] <TiMiDo> damn xfonts-100dpi
[06:12] <amonkey> justin, although i run ubuntu on my desktop i needed something a little less heavy for my laptop (not much ram, 300mhz). dsl's tinyx wouldn't run on my laptop's trident videocard, but i read newer version of xfree could
[06:12] <carlFK> when I add a user to a group, I don't have to restart bash or anything, right?
[06:13] <psh1> hi all. i'm trying to grab all deb's from a directory with wget, but having trouble. anyone know the syntax?
[06:13] <amonkey> and apt-get isn't installed for some wereason
[06:13] <psh1> i'm trying:wget -r -l 1 --no-parent http://urlhere
[06:13] <amonkey> psh1, *.deb?
[06:13] <carlFK> psh1, you need an index.html like thing
[06:13] <justin> amonkey: how is ubuntu too heavy for your laptop?
[06:13] <carlFK> psh1, at least the server needs to generate the list of files, or you need to know the list...
[06:14] <drspin> Razor-X: so it seems that .xsession isn't being called at startup ?!? odd -- I manually ran the xmodmap command using my Xmodmap file and they work now
[06:14] <psh1> carlFK, so there's no way of just getting the whole directory, regardless of index.html?
[06:14] <Razor-X> drspin: not sure why.... *shrugs*
[06:14] <ninwa> justin, I can see how it's too heavy if he's on a 300mhz with little RAM
[06:14] <psh1> carlFK, like mirroring it? it doesnt matter about getting only rpm's in that case
[06:14] <amonkey> justin, you think it would run well?
[06:14] <amonkey> thanks guys, g2g
[06:14] <carlFK> psh1, no way.  something has to know the name of the to GET
[06:15] <justin> amonkey: how much ram is not much?
[06:15] <drspin> Razor-X: no worries -- got em working :)
[06:15] <carlFK> psh1, even when you cp, bash translates * into the list of files
[06:15] <mbirkis> i get error when trying to connect to the tracker: Requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker. what could be wrong?
[06:15] <carlFK> not sure how ftp does *
[06:16] <wendy> seveas: like samurize for windows...  I've looked at gDesklets and gKrellM, but i can't install them with apt, and i'm not that good at installing from scratch yet
[06:16] <Seveas> wendy, gdesklets are definitely installable with apt-get
[06:16] <bob2> wendy: both are installable from apt
[06:16] <gorilla_> carlFK, depends on the ftp server, mget * would probably evaluate to all files like shells do.
[06:17] <Seveas> wendy, you might need to enable universe though
[06:17] <TiMiDo> wendy: apt-get install gkrellm gdesklets
[06:17] <wendy> let me run that, i'll get back to you
[06:17] <TiMiDo> alright,
[06:18] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> Hola all
[06:18] <Seveas> hi
[06:18] <wendy> root@ubuntu:/home/wendy # apt-get install gdesklets
[06:18] <wendy> Reading package lists... Done
[06:18] <wendy> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:18] <wendy> E: Couldn't find package gdesklets
[06:18] <Seveas> wendy, enable universe then
[06:18] <Seveas> wendy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:18] <Seveas> wendy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:18] <TiMiDo> can she do apt-setup?
[06:19] <AnguS> hello! i have trouble with my tv card... i set up tvtime, but somehow the tv card seems not to get any signal... however in windows it works without problems. any suggestions?
[06:19] <AnguS> it's a bt848 based tv card
[06:19] <Seveas> TiMiDo, apt-setup is buggy, on my machine it still wants to set warty..
[06:19] <TiMiDo> AnguS: are you using framebutter?
[06:20] <carlFK> does aplay use esd?
[06:20] <AnguS> TiMiDo: no idea
[06:20] <AnguS> (you mean framebuffer i guess?)
[06:20] <TiMiDo> yeah
[06:20] <TiMiDo> sorry about that
[06:20] <AnguS> well i have no idea
[06:20] <AnguS> just know that my bt878 had image but no sound, and this 848 has nothing at all :(
[06:20] <justin> AnguS: bttv driver usually gets the tuner type wrong
[06:21] <carlFK> no.  ok, i thought I could run aplay as a user, but now only root can
[06:21] <AnguS> i see
[06:21] <AnguS> how can i manually specify the tuner?
[06:22] <justin> AnguS: tuner option to bttv module.. 2 is usually what you want
[06:22] <AnguS> justin: and where do i set that, if i may ask :D
[06:22] <justin> AnguS: /etc/modules usually
[06:23] <justin> just add/change 'bttv tuner=2'
[06:23] <AnguS> uh, bttv is not even there =) ok
[06:23] <wendy> great, thanks seveas,  synaptic is now downloading and installing
[06:23] <Lafitte-> what would i check if i can see my linux shares in windows and get a login but cant login ?     i have users and password allowed for samba
[06:23] <Seveas> you're welcome :)
[06:26] <carlFK> aplay error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/140
[06:27] <carlFK> but I am just tryting to figure out if my user/group rights are right... is that a good test?
[06:28] <mbirkis> what does this meen?: Requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker.
[06:29] <jorgp> heh nvu just segfaulted
[06:29] <carlFK> mbirkis, it means the tracker only allows torrents it knows about, and the one you are using isn't on the list
[06:29] <carlFK> mbirkis, aka: something is hosed
[06:29] <mbirkis> carlFK: hmm... what list? can i add to the list?
[06:30] <AnguS> uh i have a little problem, my dmesg is full of these errors: powernow-k8: vid trans failed, vid 0x3, curr 0x4
[06:30] <AnguS> powernow-k8: transition frequency failed
[06:30] <carlFK> mbirkis, only if you have access to the tracker
[06:30] <carlFK> mbirkis, so if you are asking, probably not ;)
[06:30] <AnguS> how can i fix this?
[06:30] <mbirkis> carlFK: it is the ubuntu tracker
[06:30] <mbirkis> :(
[06:30] <linuxnub> hi
[06:30] <carlFK> mbirkis, they seem to have troubles with BT
[06:31] <linuxnub> can i ask here for ubuntu trouble shooting?
[06:33] <AMDXP> hello folks
[06:33] <carlFK> linuxnub, yes.
[06:33] <mbirkis> carlFK: is there any other trackers available?
[06:33] <linuxnub> my problem: while booting i have the "grub error 18"
[06:34] <linuxnub> how can i change to lilo?
[06:34] <bob2> mbirkis: the ubuntu tracker is down?
[06:34] <mbirkis> bob2: Requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker.
[06:34] <AMDXP> linuxnub: ask away someone maybe able to help you or at least point you in the right way
[06:34] <mbirkis> bob2: that is the message i get
[06:34] <mbirkis> bob2: this is the amd64 tracker
[06:35] <linuxnub> ???
[06:35] <bob2> mbirkis: on cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[06:35] <mbirkis> bob2: yes
[06:35] <bob2> mbirkis: ok, thanks
[06:36] <jfk303> How can I connect to the bearshare (or whatever that connects too) network in ubuntu? Thanks..
[06:36] <AMDXP> grub error 18 i am not familiar with error
[06:36] <linuxnub> is it the wrong place fr my question?
[06:37] <bob2> linuxnub: what have you changed since it last worked?
[06:37] <bob2> mbirkis: do other torrents work for you? I'm not getting an error from it.
[06:37] <mbirkis> bob2: 1sec... will check
[06:37] <carlFK> mbirkis, what is the URL you got the torrent from?
[06:38] <mbirkis> carlFK: cdimage.ubuntu.com the amd64 5.04 torrent
[06:38] <linuxnub> it never worked
[06:39] <linuxnub> sorry my english...
[06:39] <carlFK> mbirkis, there are no torrents at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[06:39] <linuxnub> i just installed it today
[06:39] <Kurt2x> ubuntu eh
[06:40] <carlFK> mbirkis, what is the whole URL of the torrent you are tying to use?
[06:41] <mbirkis> carlFK: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/array-7/hoary-install-amd64.iso.torrent
[06:41] <mbirkis> bob2: the fedora torrent works for med
[06:41] <mbirkis> *me
[06:42] <carlFK> array-7?
[06:42] <bob2> mbirkis: er, that's really really really old
[06:42] <battlecat> Hi General question. I am about to reinstall UBUNTU and I was wondering what is the best way to partition and format the 20 gig drive? Any tips, pointers, advice, or links would be wonderful! :) Thank you.
[06:42] <Tonglebeak> i tried using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto to set up wifi, but the thing is, linux doesn't even know that a network card is attached to the computer
[06:42] <mbirkis> bob2: what is really really old?
[06:42] <bob2> mbirkis: that torrent
[06:43] <bob2> mbirkis: I'm not surprisde it doesn't work
[06:43] <mbirkis> bob2: lead me the right way! :)
[06:43] <neighborlee> anyway to fix this er ror when running synaptic from : admin > synatpic ?? ::: unable to copy the users Xauthorization file
[06:43] <neighborlee> last question would be what caused this to happen ?
[06:43] <battlecat> Also is there a way when installing Ubuntu to specify not to install the office packages?
[06:44] <bob2> mbirkis: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[06:45] <mbirkis> bob2: thnx alot... can't wait to get ubuntu installed :)
[06:45] <dash> don't use breezy? _now_ they tell me. ;->
[06:45] <zukalk> lol
[06:46] <Tonglebeak> can i get some help with my network card
[06:46] <battlecat> Is there a FTP site where you can download ISO CDs of popular packages?
[06:46] <zukalk> Tonglebeak, what card is it?
[06:46] <dash> guess i'm doomed, then
[06:47] <Tonglebeak> Blitzz 802.11 WLAN ...it's not even detected by linux as being a network card, as if it's not plugged in
[06:47] <linuxnub> hallo?
[06:47] <nalioth_wrkn> linuxnub: hello
[06:47] <zukalk> did you follow any tutorials?
[06:47] <zukalk> ndiswrapper should do it, let me find the link
[06:48] <Tonglebeak> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto , but that seemed to be just if linux even detected that a network card exists
[06:48] <Tonglebeak> the link to ndiswrapper ... the page said not to do what it says, until it's rewritten
[06:49] <nalioth> brb
[06:50] <zukalk> Tonglebeak, it worked for me
[06:50] <zukalk> dunno what they say it's not the right method
[06:50] <zukalk> you make the deb from the source and install it
[06:50] <bob2> no
[06:50] <bob2> that's silly
[06:50] <Tonglebeak> zukalk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto is what said it isn't the right thing
[06:50] <bob2> unless you're sure your card isn't supported by the version in ubuntu
[06:51] <Tonglebeak> oh well, i should od it anyways?
[06:51] <Tonglebeak> *do
[06:51] <zukalk> i dunno, i'm just a newb
[06:52] <Seveas> Tonglebeak, the easy and correct way to setup ndiswrapper is apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:52] <Seveas> and simply running ndiswrapper -i <your inffile>
[06:53] <Tonglebeak> Seveas: being new to linux, what is <inffile>?
[06:53] <stjepan> hi
[06:53] <stjepan> where can I download JRE for Ubuntu?
[06:53] <stjepan> I need it to run eclipse
[06:53] <nightswim> java.sun.com
[06:53] <Seveas> Tonglebeak, the file which name ends on .inf that comes with your windows driver
[06:53] <Seveas> stjepan: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[06:54] <stjepan> tnx
[06:54] <Tonglebeak> Seveas: alright, i'll try that
[06:56] <stjepan> Seveas, what .bin file?
[06:56] <carlFK> play gives "sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Permission denied"
[06:57] <Seveas> stjepan, you need to download the 'linux self extracting installer'
[06:57] <carlFK> but the user is in the audio group, and I can't find anything using dsp
[06:57] <Seveas> it's named js2dk-VERSION.bin
[06:57] <stjepan> Seveas, I see
[06:57] <stjepan> tnx
[06:58] <Tonglebeak> Seveas: will this load the driver on bootup also?
[06:58] <Seveas> Tonglebeak, no, you need to: echo ndiswrapper | tee -a '/etc/modules'
[06:58] <Seveas> Tonglebeak, no, you need to: echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a '/etc/modules'
[06:58] <Seveas> just type that last command only once
[06:58] <Tonglebeak> ok
[06:59] <Seveas> and it will then be loaded on every boot
[06:59] <Seveas> to see whether the driver works, you can try ndiswrapper -l
[06:59] <Seveas> just to be sure, do: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[06:59] <djp> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 108 status - Does anyone know why i get this message when i exit synaptic? everything works fine, however i do get this message every so often...
[06:59] <Seveas> that last one only once
[06:59] <Tonglebeak> ok
[06:59] <Seveas> djp, try starting synaptic from a terminal with sudo synaptic
[07:00] <Seveas> it'll probably give you more info
[07:00] <carlFK> how bad is it to chmod 777 dsp?
[07:00] <dr_willis> hmm.. better to ask why you are doing that? :P
[07:01] <carlFK> dr_willis, well, the user is in the audio group, but i get "perm denied"
[07:01] <dr_willis> I belive theres a ubuntu sound wiki   that covers what you need to do.
[07:02] <Seveas> carlFK, that's odd
[07:02] <carlFK> Seveas, ineed.
[07:02] <carlFK> er... indeed.
[07:02] <Seveas> chmod 777 will not help much either I guess
[07:02] <Seveas> and more importantly, that chmod is lost on reboot
[07:02] <djp> Seveas: i have to use my password when i run synaptic from gnome, how will using sudo from the command prompt help?
[07:03] <Seveas> djp, the password is asked by gksudo, not by synaptic itself
[07:03] <carlFK> Seveas, 666 did.  664 did not.
[07:03] <Seveas> odd
[07:03] <Seveas> is /dev/dsp owned by root:audio?
[07:03] <djp> Seveas: so you think that is where the error is coming from? apologies Seveas, i don't really understand... please excuse my ignorance...
[07:04] <dr_willis> Mine looks like --->>>>      crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-06-20 11:28 /dev/dsp
[07:04] <carlFK> aww crap.  apparently I need to restart bash when I add a user to a group?
[07:04] <Seveas> djp, no I even think that that's not where the error is coming from, butusually programs write diagnostic info to the terminal. That's why I asked you to run it from the terminal
[07:05] <Seveas> carlFK, that might indeed be the case../.
[07:05] <carlFK> Seveas, im surprised.
[07:05] <dr_willis> yea. loging out/backin - or i think theres some command to change from one group to another.
[07:05] <carlFK> but I put dsp back to 660 and user carl can play sound.wav
[07:06] <Seveas> nice
[07:06] <Seveas> you will need to logout&login too for the new group being noticed globally i guess
[07:06] <djp> Seveas: oh i see, sorry! have tried running from command line, but no problems. it doesn't happen all that often, infact this is the second time i have noticed the error message. it may be something to do with leaving synaptic open for a long period. i had left it runnung and gone on the school run to pick up my eldest son you see... ;)
[07:07] <Seveas> djp, even then it should not happen :)
[07:07] <Seveas> doesn't it give more errorinfo?
[07:08] <TiMiDo> djp: can you pasted the error some where on a webpage?
[07:09] <djp> Seveas: no. that error message i posted prevoiusly was the total sum of the error message. obviously when i ran synaptic from the command line there was no error message as it ran fine...
[07:09] <Seveas> :)
[07:10] <TiMiDo> you can't run synaptic from a command line is graphical that's why
[07:10] <TiMiDo> isn't it?
[07:10] <djp> TiMiDo: sure
[07:10] <djm62> TiMiDo: you can run it /from/ the command line
[07:10] <TiMiDo> yeah i know =)
[07:10] <Seveas> TiMiDo, you're thinking too dos-like :)
[07:10] <Seveas> sudo synaptic works fine :)
[07:10] <djm62> yeah, you need to think more longhorn/monad ;)
[07:11] <mbruemmer> having a problem with with ibook g4, that is at boot of hoary :[radeonfb (0000:00:10.0) invalid ROM signature 0 should be0xaa55
[07:11] <mbruemmer> ]
[07:11] <djp> TiMiDo: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 108 status, was all that it said though...
[07:11] <mbruemmer> sombody here who cann help me?
[07:11] <TiMiDo> djp: do ps x and see if is running
[07:12] <str> anyone using monodevelop?
[07:12] <cabajgtr> booting the ibook of the CD or HD?
[07:12] <mbruemmer> hd boot
[07:12] <cabajgtr> hmm, i haven't installed it on my ibook, but had no probs with the livecd
[07:12] <djp> TiMiDo: see if what is running?
[07:13] <nalioth> mbruemmer: does it continue to boot?
[07:13] <TiMiDo> the sypnatic child
[07:13] <mbruemmer> ofcause else i didnt write to you
[07:13] <nalioth> mbruemmer: i get that error every time, but my ibook boots on up
[07:14] <mbruemmer> same with me
[07:14] <mbruemmer> but how to solve this invalid ROM
[07:14] <Flickie> need help please, got my speedtouch modem working but now it doesnt work :S
[07:14] <nalioth> mbruemmer: that error is early on in the boot process, right?
[07:15] <mbruemmer> yes
[07:15] <djp> TiMiDo: 21933 ? S 0:00 gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic - that is reported by running ps x if i have synaptic running
[07:15] <TiMiDo> djp: kill -9 21933
[07:15] <TiMiDo> and try running it again
[07:15] <djm62> Flickie: when did it stop working?
[07:15] <Seveas> TiMiDo, you are misunderstanding the problem...
[07:16] <TiMiDo> yeah big time sorry
[07:16] <Seveas> the problem was that synaptic sometimes exited with a strange exitcode
[07:16] <Flickie> djm62: well i configured it yesturday and when i tunrf off Ubuntu and then logged back in it doesnt work now
[07:16] <djp> Seveas: thanks
[07:16] <Seveas> and I think it's indeed due to being open for too long
[07:16] <TiMiDo> so maybe is a bug?
[07:16] <nalioth> mbruemmer: did it just start happening?
[07:17] <Seveas> It might just be a feature of Synaptic :)
[07:17] <djp> Seveas: :)
[07:17] <gorilla_> Seveas, that would depend on whether it is documented or not :-)
[07:17] <djm62> Flickie: how are you trying to start it?
[07:17] <Seveas> gorilla_, that's why I am diving in the docs now ;)
[07:18] <mbruemmer> yes for the first time i was runnig hoary, but everything is working (except xmms & suspending)
[07:18] <Flickie> djm62: well it said it had configured it to boot on load and the lights light up on the modem so i think its getting a connection
[07:18] <nalioth> mbruemmer: do you dual boot?
[07:19] <djm62> Flickie: can you type ifconfig at a terminal, to see what linux thinks you have?
[07:19] <mbruemmer> no linux is my only system
[07:19] <Seveas> mbruemmer, let's guess: xmms hangs when trying to play a file?
[07:19] <Flickie> ok i'll go try
[07:19] <Flickie> brb
[07:20] <djp> Seveas: thanks for the help by the way... i will keep an eye on when i next get that error message, if at all
[07:20] <mbruemmer> yes i tryed to solve it by loading oss and als support via synaptic
[07:20] <Seveas> mbruemmer, simply set the output plugin in xmms to esound
[07:20] <TiMiDo> djp: i'm looking for the error hold up
[07:20] <mbruemmer> but i think i installes it in a wrong depency?
[07:21] <mbruemmer> i have been tryed but no one of the plugins will work
[07:22] <djp> TiMiDo: oh, ok. thanks
[07:23] <nalioth> mbruemmer: was just wondering (moot now) if OSX worked
[07:23] <SogniX> anyone know how i can launch firefox from the command line specifying gemoetry? -geometry 800x400+0+0 seems to do nothing :(
[07:24] <mbruemmer> nalioth: excuse me i nativly speak english what is "moot"
[07:24] <dr_willis> i thought the -geometery options was for the 'old fashioned' kind of X apps. :P
[07:24] <nalioth> mbruemmer: moot = irrevelant
[07:24] <dr_willis> SogniX,  may be also the window manager is rembering its last size/position  and restoreing it.
[07:24] <SogniX> oh... I see... so what would work for the new kind of xapps
[07:25] <dr_willis> SogniX,  check 'firefox -help'
[07:25] <SogniX> dr_willis that's what I was thinking too, except I did get an app to respect my settings
[07:25] <dr_willis> -height <value>   is an option :P
[07:25] <SogniX> saw that, but that didn't work either :(
[07:26] <dr_willis> -width <value>    also.
[07:26] <dr_willis> Hmm - sounds liek the window manager may be remebering/rstoreing perhaps
[07:26] <mbruemmer> nalioth: thx for easy translate ( i forgot the not before the word english so i nativly speak german)
[07:26] <TiMiDo> can't find the error djp
[07:27] <Cooner750> um; hi.. i'm back
[07:27] <mbruemmer> nalioth: so does the radeonfb  error message harm my system? or what does it mean?
[07:27] <nalioth> mbruemmer: kein problem
[07:27] <nalioth> mbruemmer: if your system boots up, then no problem
[07:28] <mbruemmer> nalioth: deine muttersprache ist auch deutsch?
[07:28] <nalioth> mbruemmer: i don't know what it means
[07:29] <nalioth> mbruemmer: i spent 6 years in germany (over 10 years ago)
[07:29] <djp> TiMiDo: no problem. thanks for looking though
[07:29] <Flickaroo> djm62: heh what am i looking for when i type ifconfig?
[07:30] <TiMiDo> djp: there's no more errors ?
[07:30] <mbruemmer> nalioth: that meant in en: is your native language german
[07:30] <djp> TiMiDo: it is probably something to do with leaving synaptic running for a long period of time
[07:30] <djm62> Flickaroo: "lo" will always be there, you want a section (probably eth0) which might not be
[07:30] <nalioth> mbruemmer: nien, ich bin americana
[07:30] <djp> TiMiDo: nope, that was it it. it actually worked and did exactly what it was supposed to do, however on exit, that error message. strange.
[07:30] <nalioth> mbruemmer: and can't spell german anymore, lol
[07:31] <Flickaroo> djm62: i get lo
[07:31] <djtansey> does anyone know if there is a way to prevent windows from overwriting your linux partition when it installs?
[07:31] <djm62> ok, linux says you don't have networking up
[07:31] <djtansey> i ran grub-install /dev/hda1 by accident and need to reinstall windows, since i can no longer boot it
[07:31] <Flickaroo> djm62: argh i hate usb modems!
[07:31] <nJess> i need dvdplayback help
[07:32] <djm62> Flickaroo: yeah...what guide were you following to set it up?
[07:32] <pixman> nJess, checked the wiki? O_o
[07:32] <nJess> mplayer keeps saying "cannot access dvd device"
[07:32] <nalioth> nJess: read what ubotu says
[07:32] <nalioth> !Restricted
[07:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:32] <nJess> no
[07:32] <nJess> not that
[07:32] <mbruemmer> nalioth: ok thak you for your help and even if you have any experiance with ibook hardware why does my xmms sound not work
[07:32] <nJess> it won't access the hardware, and it used to work before i upgraded to hoary
[07:33] <cartman>  is there a packages.debian.org like site for ubuntu?
[07:33] <Flickaroo> djm62: http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net/
[07:33] <nJess> the wiki doesn't help me
[07:33] <Seveas> cartman, packages.ubuntu.com :)
[07:33] <cartman> Seveas: cheers :)
[07:33] <nalioth> mbruemmer: hang on a minute
[07:34] <nalioth> mbruemmer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:34] <nJess> the restricted formats wiki thing doesn't help me at all
[07:34] <nalioth> nJess: cuz your system isn't 'seeing' the drive
[07:34] <nalioth> nJess: with teh dvd in it
[07:34] <nJess> the dvd shows up on gnome desktop
[07:35] <nalioth> nJess: point to another drive in your player
[07:35] <nJess> i only hve one drive
[07:35] <nalioth> nJess: i've only got one physical drive, also, but my filesystem shows 5 devices
[07:35] <nalioth> nJess: look in /media
[07:36] <neighborlee> anyway to fix this er ror when running synaptic from : admin > synatpic ?? ::: unable to copy the users Xauthorization file
[07:36] <neighborlee> last question would be what caused this to happen ?
[07:36] <djm62> Flickaroo: if you run the speedtouchconf.sh script again, does it go online?
[07:36] <billytwowilly> hi, where do I have to put the mplayer codecs package so that mplayer will find it?
[07:36] <^HeMan^> Hi! Anyone using mDNS?
[07:37] <^HeMan^> It works fine, but it depends on ZeroConf, is there any way to turn off ZeroConf?
[07:37] <TiMiDo> djp: can you do me a favor so i can see what's going on with synaptic do su passwd and then try running synaptic or sudo synaptic
[07:38] <Flickaroo> djm62: no it doesnt but i just read "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26017&highlight=speedtouch+330" <-- the last post but i dont know what ppoatm is
[07:38] <d0rt> point to point over atm maybe?
[07:38] <nJess> nalioth, yey, i think it might be working
[07:39] <Flickaroo> d0rt: only just started using Linux yesturday so how do i add it :S
[07:39] <Flickaroo> d0rt: hardly know any commands
[07:39] <ciocanel> just changed my matrox with a intel 810, and x fails to load, can anyone give me a hint?
[07:39] <TiMiDo> add what?
[07:40] <Flickaroo> TiMiDo: ppoatm to etc/moduls
[07:40] <TiMiDo> nano /etc/modules and added ppoatm
[07:40] <mhz> hi/hola
[07:40] <nJess> hmmm
[07:41] <nJess> nalioth, its not working
[07:41] <TiMiDo> try this ciocanel dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[07:41] <nJess> mplayer locked up
[07:41] <nJess> and xine gives some error about MRL
[07:41] <mhz> i've just installed Ubuntu 5.04
[07:41] <mhz> what plugins i need to play mp3 and dvd?
[07:41] <ciocanel> TiMiDo, okay...
[07:41] <Flickaroo> TiMiDo: so i type in the terminal "nano /etc/modukles added ppoatm" ?
[07:41] <TiMiDo> nope just nano /etc/modules
[07:42] <Flickaroo> ok and that should add ppoatm to it?
[07:42] <Seveas> ciocanel, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you are on hoary
[07:42] <ciocanel> :-)
[07:42] <ciocanel> ok, thanks.
[07:42] <TiMiDo> Flickaroo: not really nano is just an editor
[07:42] <nalioth> nJess: try with another player
[07:42] <Flickaroo> oh ok well i'll try again later, thanks for all your help :)
[07:42] <nalioth> mhz ubotu will tell you
[07:42] <nalioth> !Restricted
[07:42] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:42] <Seveas> Flickaroo, the easy way to add somethin is: echo 'ppoatm' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:43] <TiMiDo> or modprobe *smiles*
[07:43] <nJess> nalioth, what is mrl?
[07:43] <delire> media resource locator
[07:43] <nalioth> nJess: Media Resource Locator
[07:43] <Chris`Everitt> does Ubuntu make a default 'root' user upon installation?
[07:43] <delire> no
[07:43] <nJess> perhaps that is broken?
[07:43] <Seveas> Chris`Everitt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:43] <ngd> !Root
[07:43] <ubotu> well, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:43] <djm62> Chris`Everitt: root always exists, he just doesn't have a passwd
[07:43] <Seveas> yes, it creates the 'root' user
[07:43] <justin> nJess: how did you try and play the dvd?
[07:44] <Seveas> but no password
[07:44] <nJess> i clicked the dvd button in xine
[07:44] <Chris`Everitt> ok, will check it out... thanks :)
[07:44] <delire> Seveas: ok, yes that is the correct answer
[07:44] <^HeMan^> Yes! Just found that ZeroConf was just recommended!
[07:44] <justin> nJess: and how did you try and play the dvd with mplayer?
[07:44] <ngd> is the GUI used on Ubuntu's XScreenSaver just a nicer XLib drawing than JWZ's default?
[07:45] <nJess> rightclick dvd --> open dvd
[07:45] <delire> nJess: were you using xine? it should work just fine. if not mplayer dvd://
[07:45] <Seveas> ngd, very well possible
[07:45] <nJess> i was using xine
[07:45] <nJess> it gives an error abour MRL
[07:45] <delire> nJess: try open cdrom
[07:45] <nJess> and no plugin for dev:/
[07:45] <nJess> what?
[07:45] <Seveas> ngd, but for breezy it will be rewritten to include a switch-user thingie
[07:46] <delire> nJess: dvd/cdrom are sometime interchangeable in xine (depending on mount points)
[07:46] <nJess> how do i change it in xine?
[07:47] <delire> nJess: see the preferences. you can define the dvd to be found at another location (from memory)
[07:47] <delire> though to be sure it works at all try 'mplayer dvd://'
[07:47] <Kurt2x> Ubuntu is a good operating system, but the actual philosophy of ubuntu is horrible and would lead to destruction of freedom through forced collective compliance.
[07:48] <djm62> Kurt2x: what?!?! I think you're missing the point...
[07:48] <nJess> de;ore
[07:48] <Seveas> Kurt2x, nonsense...
[07:48] <ccc> lol
[07:48] <nJess> delire,
[07:48] <nJess> "playing DVD"
[07:49] <delire> Kurt2x: freedom *is* a mutually and collectively supported state of independence.
[07:49] <nJess> "libdvdread can't stat /dev/dvd"
[07:49] <nJess> "no such file or directory"
[07:49] <Pianist> moin
[07:49] <Kurt2x> I prefer libertarian philosophy
[07:49] <Seveas> nJess, try sudo ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd (if hdc is your dvd player)
[07:49] <Pianist> german?
[07:49] <nJess> "couldn't open dvd device: /dev/dvd
[07:49] <justin> nJess: so sudo ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd
[07:49] <Seveas> Pianist, #ububtu-de :)
[07:49] <ngd> Seveas: ok, I've been reading the xscreensaver inventors reasons for not using a GUI toolkit because it's a lot less insecure in terms of security audits and such
[07:49] <djp> how does ubuntu stand with regards stallman, gnu.org and fsf.org?
[07:49] <Pianist> thnx
[07:49] <djm62> Kurt2x: the philosophy of ubuntu doesn't include any suggestion of force...if you're referring to the position on proprietary formats...ubuntu isn't under any obligation to include them, and you remain free to install them
[07:50] <mbruemmer> how to get swf working
[07:50] <delire> nJess: after doing as justin says, try xine: rightclick --> open dvd
[07:50] <Seveas> djp read the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>archives
[07:50] <dim_witted_kid> hello again
[07:50] <Seveas> there are long discussions about it :)
[07:50] <Seveas> mbruemmer: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[07:50] <justin> ngd: 'less insecure' is a double negative
[07:50] <djm62> the fact that skilled people don't set up flash and java for you is not a restriction on your freedom, I'm afraid
[07:51] <nJess> IT WORKS
[07:51] <nJess> THANKS MUCH
[07:51] <Seveas> nJess, nice :)
[07:51] <djp> Seveas: oh excellent, will do... after giving the little one hs milk... his bottle is ready!
[07:51] <nJess> also
[07:51] <delire> nJess: cool..
[07:51] <nJess> no cd drives will mount under KDE
[07:51] <ngd> justin: whoops ;-)
[07:51] <nJess> any reason why that might be?
[07:51] <dim_witted_kid> can anyone help mo bout setting ubuntu's resolution?
[07:51] <nalioth> mbruemmer: have you been to the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/   ? all that stuff is there
[07:51] <Seveas> djm62, Ubuntu cannot legally provide these things...
[07:51] <justin> nJess: do you mean, "no audio cds will mount under kde"?
[07:51] <Seveas> dim_witted_kid: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:52] <nJess> no
[07:52] <nJess> i mean no data cds
[07:52] <justin> nJess: why not?
[07:52] <delire> nJess audio cd's aren't mountable. they play
[07:52] <dim_witted_kid> thanks
[07:52] <nJess> dunno
[07:52] <nJess> i said data cd
[07:52] <delire> ah ok
[07:52] <delire> nJess: what is the error?
[07:52] <Seveas> nJess, is the cd drive listed in your /etc/fstab with the user and noauto options?
[07:52] <justin> nJess: your computer says "I won't let you mount this cd"?
[07:52] <djm62> Seveas: well, it could...it would involve expense and hassle, but ubuntu is a company, just like suse which does.  it's a choice (imo the right one).
[07:53] <Seveas> djm62, ack
[07:53] <Seveas> but Ubuntu is not a company
[07:53] <Seveas> Canonical is :)
[07:53] <djm62> ack ack ;)
[07:53] <nJess> uh
[07:53] <nJess> something about fstab is in the error
[07:53] <Seveas> :)
[07:53] <ateves> which window system does the ubuntu live CD provide? gnome or KDE?
[07:54] <Seveas> nJess, can you please post your /etc/fstab to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:54] <Victus> hey has anyone else experienced problems with the mplayer mozilla plugin trying to view qicktime ?
[07:54] <Seveas> ateves, gnome
[07:54] <ngd> ateves: Gnome
[07:54] <justin> nJess: maybe if you would share with everyone else what that "something" would, they might be able to tell you why it doesn't work
[07:54] <nJess> i don't know what fstab is
[07:54] <ateves> thx
[07:54] <Seveas> maybe there is a kubuntu livecd too
[07:54] <nJess> :/
[07:54] <djm62> ateves: normal ubuntu livecd is gnome, kubuntu provides kde
[07:54] <Seveas> nJess, /etc/fstab is a file
[07:54] <delire> nJess: fstab == file system table. this file (/etc/fstab) contains information about which filesystems (and how to mount them) you wish to use.
[07:54] <ngd> ateves: I would personally recommend Gnome as a sensible desktop environment
[07:54] <WebWiz> is it possible to have Ubuntu LiveCD as a terminal server to allow my laptop to Network boot into my Ubuntu box
[07:54] <Seveas> open it in an editor and copy the contents on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:54] <Seveas> WebWiz, yes
[07:55] <WebWiz> Seveas: Does it come with default LiveCD?  where i can just enable something
[07:55] <Seveas> well, network boot depends on the laptop hardware
[07:55] <bob2> WebWiz: yes, but it's not trivial to setup
[07:55] <nJess> so
[07:55] <Seveas> but network login is definitely possible
[07:55] <bob2> Seveas: or an ethboot floppy
[07:55] <foxi1> hi
[07:55] <nJess> you'd want the fstab entry for the cd device right?
[07:55] <WebWiz> my laptop bios has Network boot capability
[07:55] <Seveas> bob2, network login is fairly easy with freenx :)
[07:55] <delire> nJess: on some systems this file needs a little tweaking, but it's very easy to do so.
[07:55] <foxi1> does someone here knows a good usenetreader for gnome?
[07:55] <Seveas> foxi1, pan
[07:55] <WebWiz> I know knoppix has it enabled in default
[07:56] <nalioth> Seveas: bob2 how/where do you change the point where this looks? >>>checking build system type... powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
[07:56] <nJess> /dev/hdc      /media/cdrom0    udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto
[07:56] <ateves> ngd: what's your special reason for using gnome?
[07:56] <ateves> interesting to me :D
[07:56] <Seveas> nalioth, looks like part of the outpuf of ./configure
[07:56] <nalioth> foxi1: pan is a good nntp reader
[07:56] <bob2> nalioth: I believe it comes from gcc
[07:56] <foxi1> ok lets have a look ...
[07:56] <Seveas> nJess, if /dev/hdc is your cdrom drive (secondary slave), this looks good
[07:56] <bob2> nalioth: you certainly don't want to change it, though
[07:57] <nJess> it is
[07:57] <nalioth> Seveas: yes it is, and i'm tired of being 'unknown powerpc"  what/where to i change the line so i become whatever
[07:57] <Seveas> njess, can you please paste your complete /etc/fstab on the pastebin
[07:57] <nJess> where is that?
[07:57] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:57] <justin> Seveas: don't you think bothering to find out the exact error would be a better use of time than having him paste random things online?
[07:57] <foxi1> another question... my Notebook CPU is chaning its throttle state very often! but i cannot set it up manually how can i change the cpu scale by myself?
[07:57] <Seveas> nalioth, what's wrong with powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu..?
[07:58] <battlecat> nalioth: You've been a big help in the last few weeks. I have been asking around if there is a place to download CD images for packages. I will be going to dial up agian here soon and would perfer to not download packages when I use dialup.
[07:58] <nalioth> bob2: so its ok to compile for "unknown powerpc" instead of ppc740 or whatever?
[07:58] <elshaa> hi
[07:58] <bob2> nalioth: ppc740 is not your architecture name; it might be your chip name, tho
[07:58] <nalioth> battlecat: find a friend with broadband
[07:58] <nalioth> bob2: i'm just wondering why it says "unknown" when mac hardware is very well known
[07:59] <delire> justin: he could break a convention and change "/media/cdrom0" to "/dev/cdrom" perhaps..
[07:59] <nJess> seveas check the pastebin
[07:59] <delire> justin: i take that back
[07:59] <battlecat> nalioth: Is that the only option? There are no repositories with ISO images to download of debian packages?
[08:00] <nalioth> battlecat: not that i know of
[08:00] <djp> Seveas: have been through the archives but can't find a post relating to stallman? any idea when the discussion roughly took place so i can narrow my search down?
[08:00] <Seveas> djp, over the last days
[08:00] <Seveas> and a few months ago
[08:00] <nalioth> battlecat: there may be (among debians 14 install cds) some source cds to be found , but i'm not sure
[08:00] <djp> Seveas: sorry, you beat me to it! just noticed a thread...
[08:00] <nJess> Seveas, i pasted fstab
[08:01] <battlecat> nalioth: Thank you. :) At least I have an answer!
[08:01] <nalioth> battlecat: and i'm also not sure if they'd be useful with ubuntu
[08:01] <nalioth> battlecat: but source is source
[08:01] <cjs> anyone installed a novatel v620 under ubuntu?
[08:01] <elshaa> I did a mistake some hours ago : I used hdparm -Y instead of -y, so my disk (internal !) was stopped. the question is : is it a way to restart an ide disk stopped by hdparm -Y ?
[08:01] <battlecat> Nalioth: Well I only use so many packages and I can simply download those i "might" use now before I go to dialup.
[08:02] <nalioth> bob2: Seveas so i'm stuck compiling for "unknown-powerpc"?
[08:02] <Seveas> djp, thread: Why no mention of GNU?
[08:02] <bob2> nalioth: just ignore it, it doesn't mean what you think it means
[08:03] <delire> elshaa: the hdparm manpages say you need to reset the machine
[08:03] <Seveas> nJess, that all looks perfectly normal, what is the error you get?
[08:03] <nJess> i don't remember, and im not in KDE right now, h/o
[08:03] <Seveas> nJess, gdmflexiserver --xnest
[08:03] <Seveas> :)
[08:03] <battlecat> I am hoping that UBUNTU sends more free CDs since my LUG took them all! :) And I still need more.
[08:04] <delire> battlecat: still haven't got mine yet! (2months later)
[08:04] <elshaa> delire, hum ok. I don't remind having seen this message
[08:04] <nalioth> bob2: thx
[08:04] <elshaa> thanks
[08:04] <battlecat> delire: They take a long time but well free is FREE! I mean they even pay shipping which is something I would pay even.
[08:04] <nalioth> battlecat: do you have ubuntu install parties?
[08:05] <nJess> seveas xnest isn't installed
[08:05] <delire> battlecat: hehe yes. little complaint here.
[08:05] <delire> nJess: sudo apt-get install xnest
[08:05] <battlecat> nalioth: What I did was invited a ton of people both friends and in businesses from around the area to a meeting at our local (giant) library.
[08:05] <nJess> i know
[08:05] <nJess> i did that
[08:05] <Seveas> nJess, hmm, you should forget it anyway, nvm
[08:05] <Seveas> it'll not work the way i thought
[08:05] <battlecat> nalioth: I demonstrated how easy UBUNTU was to install and use for FREE!
[08:06] <battlecat> nalioth: I invited anyone who would sign up for a newletter to be welcome to take a free copy.
[08:06] <nalioth> battlecat: keep up the good work! (i need a boatload of ubuntu disks)
[08:06] <battlecat> nalioth: Well who knows what will come of it but well I have tons of new business contacts now.
[08:07] <battlecat> nalioth: While I have done the Windows XP cert and such I was thinking that a linux and a networking cert will be the next thing.
[08:07] <enoxis> hi guys. anyone running ubuntu on a vaio by any chance?
[08:08] <nJess> heh
[08:08] <nJess> had to reboot
[08:09] <Fabian> good evening
[08:09] <Fabian> What program do I need to listen to a radio stream with a URL like that: http://radio.latehome.de:5000/listen.pls
[08:09] <Fabian> ??
[08:10] <nJess> xmms should do it
[08:10] <Fabian> it doesn't....
[08:10] <nJess> open location
[08:10] <nJess> and take the /listen.pls off the end
[08:10] <delire> battlecat: i hear again and again there's alot more money to be made as a Linux sysadmin here in the EU than for Windows.
[08:10] <djp> TiMiDo: Failed to Seveas: seems there is some confusion between the terminology "open source" and "free software". i don't think rms likes the term "open source" used at all.
[08:11] <delire> battlecat: quite a shortage, especially in the UK
[08:11] <djp> Seveas: seems there is some confusion between the terminology "open source" and "free software". i don't think rms likes the term "open source" used at all.
[08:11] <justin> all that is is a playlist that contains File1=http://radio.latehome.de:5000/
[08:11] <battlecat> Well my BF wants to live in North Africa
[08:11] <delire> djp: no, he doesn't
[08:11] <battlecat> So I am looking at the future
[08:11] <djp> apologies for the completely bodged first attempt at my stallman post!
[08:11] <Fabian> nJess, works! thanks
[08:11] <Fabian> cu
[08:11] <delire> battlecat: hah excellent. would like to visit there.
[08:12] <battlecat> Me 2
[08:12] <maruchan> in openoffice how do i get a regular sized document. i have a weird one thats only 4 inches wide
[08:13] <delire> maruchan: very odd. this on first use of open office?
[08:13] <maruchan> no
[08:13] <delire> s/open offce/openoffice
[08:13] <maruchan> i installed the cannon i550 drivers and after this it changed
[08:15] <nJess> how do i improve performance of xine?
[08:15] <delire> maruchan: hmm, no idea. perhaps look under Format --> Page
[08:15] <nJess> dvd playback is slow and choppy
[08:15] <stjepan> hi
[08:15] <nalioth> nJess: enable dms
[08:15] <stjepan> do you know how to download Eclipse IDE with apt-get?
[08:15] <delire> nJess: is it equally slow with 'mplayer dvd://'?
[08:15] <nalioth> shrcrap
[08:15] <angela20> hi,i would like to run irexec with start system,how can i do it in kde
[08:15] <nJess> how?
[08:15] <nalioth> nJess: enable dma
[08:16] <nJess> dma is enabled
[08:16] <nJess> would an ATi Rage IIc and less than 512megs of ram affect playback?
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> rofl no
[08:17] <nalioth> nJess: whats th rest of the hardware?
[08:17] <nJess> a prentium3 1000EB
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> nJess : prolly a cpu thing
[08:17] <nalioth> nJess: shouldnt have any problems at all
[08:17] <lsuactiafner> or ram issue but now your card
[08:18] <lsuactiafner> playin a movie doesnt really use powerfull display card settings that i'm aware of unless you run an insane resolution
[08:18] <delire> nJess: that card should serve perfectly well. try 'mplayer dvd://' just to be sure xine isn't bugging out for some reason.
[08:19] <foxi1> pan w'ont work, it only places all actions i do in the queue and dont start anything... no failure messages
[08:19] <angela20> anyone can help me ?
[08:19] <nJess> delire
[08:19] <delire> foxi1: 'apt-cache search usenet gnome'
[08:19] <nalioth> foxi1: do you give it a minute or two?
[08:19] <nJess> the dvd isn't playing when i type that
[08:19] <J0el> I need some help with my tv tuner card in ubuntu.
[08:20] <eyequeue> foxi1:  are you marked as online (bottom left corner)
[08:20] <J0el> I use Xawtv , it tunes to diff channels ..but i get only sound
[08:20] <J0el> no picture.
[08:20] <delire> nJess: ok, perhaps 'mplayer /dev/dvd'
[08:20] <foxi1> yes i am
[08:20] <justin> J0el: try tvtime
[08:20] <stjepan> so?
[08:20] <stjepan> do you know?
[08:20] <lsuactiafner> mplayer dvd://1
[08:20] <lsuactiafner> ?
[08:21] <angela20> exeactly try tvtime
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> mplayer -vo help dvd://1
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> x11 is fast
[08:21] <nJess> its not a DMA issue
[08:21] <eyequeue> foxi1: oops, wrong app.  file > work online checked?
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> or vesa from console
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> sdl is best
[08:21] <delire> J0el: or look for different output options for Xawtv,
[08:21] <justin> um no, xv is best
[08:21] <nJess> im not even hitting 100% proc usage
[08:21] <J0el> I get an error like this before Xawtv starts >WARNING: v4l-conf is compiled without DGA support.
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> nJess : try mplayer -vo sdl dvd://1
[08:21] <lsuactiafner> form the GUI
[08:21] <J0el> Could that be the cause?
[08:22] <J0el> justin , i will try Tvtime.
[08:22] <justin> nJess: ruling out a dma issue is easy, hit left a few times in mplayer to have it replay the last 30 seconds or so, if that plays fine, your drive is reading too slow
[08:22] <lsuactiafner> a dvd is about 8mb/s
[08:24] <nJess> could it be a dirty lens?
[08:24] <justin> nJess: try what I said
[08:24] <holycow> heh
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> could be.
[08:24] <nJess> i did
[08:24] <justin> nJess: did that play fine?
[08:24] <holycow> i think my bozo friend found another firefox bug
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> i didnt get the question tho
[08:24] <nJess> it did for a bit
[08:24] <nJess> now its lagging
[08:24] <lsuactiafner> but mplayer -vo sdl is a good thing to try
[08:24] <holycow> got to any website with images, hold down shift, and left click very fast on any image
[08:24] <nJess> mplayer crashes
[08:24] <holycow> it will dissapear
[08:25] <Andril> hello all again -
[08:25] <Andril> Seveas, good day
[08:25] <lsuactiafner> try -vo x11
[08:25] <lsuactiafner> might be your display driver in xorg.conf
[08:25] <delire> nJess: when you run 'free' how much is in the total 'Swap:' figure?
[08:25] <Choubaka> x11 is slow afaik.
[08:26] <lsuactiafner> i think its his display driver in xorg.conf
[08:26] <mbirkis> hi... i am currently installing ubuntu hoary 64bit... what is the difference with linux-amd64-generic and the other kernel options? in the choose kernel dialog
[08:26] <nJess> s/his/her
[08:26] <nJess> im using no swap at all
[08:26] <delire> hehe ;)
[08:26] <albacker> does this work guys :
[08:26] <albacker> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[08:26] <nJess> using 133megs of ram
[08:27] <nJess> okay
[08:27] <nalioth> albacker: backports and marillat can cause problems with upgrading
[08:27] <delire> nJess: but you have a 'total' swap figure? for instance mine is 1550232
[08:27] <nJess> i think the drive isn't transferring data fast enough
[08:27] <nJess> oh
[08:27] <nJess> 488
[08:27] <delire> nJess: that would be dma
[08:27] <albacker> nalioth,  i want them to get acroread. nothing else./
[08:27] <nJess> how do i enable DMA?
[08:28] <pepsi> has anyone here installed a video capture card?
[08:28] <nalioth> albacker: then get acroread, and then comment them out
[08:28] <justin> first you verify that dma is actually not enabled for some reason
[08:28] <nJess> okay
[08:28] <nJess> how do i do that\
[08:28] <albacker> nalioth, yes :)
[08:28] <nalioth> albacker: after commenting, update your apt
[08:28] <albacker> thanks nalioth
[08:29] <_nate_> is there a good gui frontend for dd?  I've tried looking for one to no avail
[08:29] <SirGrok> How can I find a list of the physical locations of my cdrom drives (I am trying to configure my fstab correctly)?
[08:29] <delire> nJess: first test that direct memory access is working with 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdc' assuming /dev/hdc is your cdrom disk.
[08:29] <delire> s/disk/drive
[08:30] <delire> nJess: be careful with hdparm. it's not something to experiment with liberally.
[08:30] <mariux> hi, why doesnt anything happen when i click on the "22 updates available" gnome-systray-icon
[08:30] <_nate_> SirGrok, sudo fdisk -l
[08:30] <nJess> it says its off
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> nJess : listen to delire : i once broke a disk with hdparm
[08:31] <nJess> using_dama = 0 (off)
[08:31] <_nate_> mariux, Start>System>Admin>Ubuntu Update Manager
[08:31] <nJess> DMA*
[08:31] <SirGrok> _nate_, that is hard drives. I am looking for my cdrom drives (well, dvd rom and dvd-rw)
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : a front end for dd? rofl
[08:31] <delire> nJess: try 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc' type that exactly
[08:31] <mariux> _nate_, nothing happens
[08:31] <mariux> do i need to be root?
[08:31] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, ummm, whats so funny?
[08:31] <nJess> delire, okay
[08:31] <nJess> done
[08:31] <nJess> now what?
[08:31] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, I want a gui
[08:31] <delire> nJess: then try playing the dvd.
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : man dd and dd if=/dev/zero of=image.img bs=1M count=699 should get you off
[08:31] <nalioth> mariux: don't know why. start synaptic
[08:32] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, haha, very funny
[08:32] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : if you use dd for anything, then you dont need a front end.. dd just aint a GUI tool
[08:32] <lsuactiafner> never will be
[08:32] <delire> hehe
[08:32] <albacker> guys any repo for getting the lates acroread ???
[08:32] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, there is a GUI with the Helix CD
[08:32] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, I can't find one fore debian
[08:33] <justin> _nate_: a GUI to do WHAT?
[08:33] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, and I use the cl myself, but for other people I know
[08:33] <nJess> delire
[08:33] <nJess> will dma stay on after a reboot?
[08:33] <_nate_> justin, a GUI frontend for dd
[08:33] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : what you need a gui for? read the man page and type the command? and what can you use dd tho that reguired a gui?
[08:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is fedora like debian?
[08:33] <mariux> root@084202042160:~ # synaptic
[08:33] <mariux> (synaptic:30385): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[08:33] <nJess> ChurcH_of_FoamY, not one bit
[08:33] <delire> nJess: no, you'll need to edit a file - /etc/hdparm.conf. be **VERY** careful.
[08:33] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, ....don't be a troll, I said for other people, namely those who are less linux-savvy
[08:33] <nJess> heh
[08:34] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it is linux, but not like ubuntu
[08:34] <nJess> i can live with just typing the command
[08:34] <delire> nJess: it's perfectly safe, if you do it properly. i'll help.
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : but for what can non-linux-savvy use dd for?
[08:34] <mariux> how was it i made it possible for root to run a app in a normal users X?
[08:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it harder to use then ubuntu?
[08:34] <nJess> ChurcH_of_FoamY, it depends
[08:34] <mocker> mariux: sudo
[08:34] <nJess> it doesn't have apt-get
[08:34] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, backing up their HDD
[08:34] <nJess> and RPM packages are a pain in the ass
[08:34] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, I asked for a dd frontend, not for an argument
[08:34] <spanglesontoast> how do I check if tvtime supports my card?
[08:35] <justin> spanglesontoast: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : then install the one Helix CD has and i'm not argumenting, look @ freshmeat.net for a GUI
[08:35] <albacker> huys any repo for getting the latest acroread ??
[08:35] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, you disagree with a gui frontend, thats fine, thats enough
[08:35] <mariux> ahh, never used sudo before, just always have a root terminal ope
[08:35] <mariux> +n
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : and i think there are btter backup solutions.
[08:35] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, I did
[08:35] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: RPM HELL is a term inveneted for redhat based distros
[08:35] <Heimdall> helle all !!!!
[08:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[08:35] <Chris`Everitt> Can anyone tell me how I can enable Ubuntu to use my Sound Blaster Live sound card instead of my nforce onboad sound for sound?
[08:35] <delire> nJess: putting in this line first into that file "/dev/hdc {" then a new line "dma = on" then on another new line "}" will do it.
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> _nate_ : just a strange question, if you need a gui great, just wondered why
[08:35] <concept10> albacker, what acroread are you using?
[08:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> becuase a freind of mine got this game to run in fedora core 2 and i can't get it to run
[08:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even with cedega/wine
[08:36] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, yeah, I understand, I just didn't want an argument is all, I'm at work
[08:36] <_nate_> lsuactiafner, maybe later we can duke it out :)
[08:36] <delire> nJess: the "dma = on" line needs to be indented. see the examples in that file.
[08:36] <albacker> concept10, i dont have any at the moment. 5 is in my repo. but the last time i downloaded it. it got problems.
[08:36] <nJess> okay delire
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> Chris`Everitt : the ` in your nick aint nice.. but disable the onboard sound in your BIOS, reboot press del much and you will get into a hardware config util.
[08:36] <concept10> albacker, the latest is in the repos (version 7)
[08:36] <popeyeray> i dumped my SuSE deluxe edition for UBUNTU!!!
[08:36] <delire> nJess: that will be perfectly safe.
[08:37] <delire> popeyeray: hehe goody
[08:37] <nalioth> Chris`Everitt: disable your onboard sound card in your bios
[08:37] <nJess> i can't edit my bios
[08:37] <nJess> its messed
[08:37] <nJess> ps/2 devices don't work
[08:37] <concept10> albacker, are you using hoary?
[08:37] <battlecat> Does anyone here use Inkscape frequently?
[08:37] <Chris`Everitt> lsuactiafner, lol, can't you just hit the tab button and autocomplete my nick?  Anyway, thanks for the help durr, I should have thought of that. :)
[08:37] <delire> nJess: eek.
[08:37] <Seveas> djp, still there?
[08:38] <bphan> hi guys
[08:38] <albacker> concept10, in fact im using a ubuntu based distro. called beatrix
[08:38] <nJess> so im using usbwireless
[08:38] <popeyeray> here in our little Afrikan town "ubuntu" mean "milk of human kindness"!
[08:38] <bphan> I have just installed Ubantu Yeaaaaahsssss
[08:38] <Seveas> bphan, welcome aboard
[08:38] <delire> bphan: congrats!
[08:38] <nJess> i dumped some ubuntu on my computer
[08:38] <spanglesontoast> I heard my tv card was supported for the ubuntu kernel
[08:38] <nJess> ;_;
[08:38] <spanglesontoast> but not tvtime?
[08:38] <Heimdall> is there someone who can explain to me how I could change a icon in the Gnome menu of my ubuntu ?
[08:38] <justin> spanglesontoast: what is "my tv card"?
[08:39] <concept10> albacker, cant help you with that.   Im not sure of compatibility.  But maybe you could add some repos and try to get it
[08:39] <popeyeray> i tried ubuntu because of my laptops i830 stolen video memory issue
[08:39] <albacker> concept10, give me one of yours/
[08:39] <spanglesontoast> lifeview
[08:39] <justin> spanglesontoast: what tv card does lspci say that you have?
[08:39] <popeyeray> ubuntu was able to fix the resolution on my laptop to 24 bit 1076X768!!!!
[08:39] <mbruemmer> hello the wiki wont help to fix problems with xmms and suspending the ibook g4 800
[08:40] <bphan> quick question my intel wireless pro 2200bg works flawlessly, but  how do i set the key so that I don't have to do it manually everytime it starts up
[08:40] <spanglesontoast> 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Fujitsu Microelectronics Ltd.: Unknown device 036e (rev 91)
[08:40] <spanglesontoast> 0000:00:0c.1 Multimedia video controller: Fujitsu Microelectronics Ltd.: Unknown device 036e (rev 91)
[08:40] <mariux> just trying ubuntu for the first time here, i've been a gentoo and kde-user for the last year and a half
[08:40] <nalioth> mbruemmer: you can give up on suspending of your powerbook for a while
[08:40] <delire> spanglesontoast: yikes.
[08:40] <mariux> have to say, its faster than i thought
[08:40] <ccc> \o/
[08:40] <justin> bphan: with the network settings program thing?
[08:40] <spanglesontoast> ?
[08:40] <popeyeray> i must donate some money to these fine debian fellows at ubuntu!!!
[08:41] <mbruemmer> and xmms wont work ive installed all mp3 stuff(e.g lib)
[08:41] <Heimdall> well nobody know how to change icons of the menu ?
[08:41] <bphan> justin: I've been doing it under supper user iwconfig
[08:41] <concept10> albacker, i will post my /etc/apt/sources.list but dont blame me if it doesnt work
[08:41] <albacker> concept10, send it to me in prv !
[08:41] <bphan> justin where is the network setting program?
[08:41] <albacker> no i wont blame
[08:41] <justin> bphan: well if you already know how to do that, you can just add wireless-key ..... in /etc/network/interfaces in the right place
[08:41] <Seveas> albacker: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:41] <nJess> mbruemmer, set the audio plugin
[08:41] <justin> bphan: in the menus at the top of your screen?
[08:41] <nalioth> mbruemmer: how bout rythmbox (called "music player" in the menu)
[08:41] <hde> I just installed Ubuntu Hoary, I don't recall it ever asking for a root password and I cannot become root.
[08:42] <Seveas> hde: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:42] <ccc> Heimdall: search in the forums, i found it there
[08:42] <justin> hde: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+root+password
[08:42] <Seveas> there is no root password..
[08:42] <Heimdall> ccc ok I'll try
[08:42] <albacker> Seveas, thanks
[08:42] <nalioth> !Root
[08:42] <delire> hde: root exists but a password doesn't. if you must use root then 'sudo passwd root'
[08:42] <ubotu> somebody said root was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:42] <nalioth> hde: read what ubotu said
[08:42] <SirGrok> Okay, I have the physcial locations of both of my drives, and I have fstab edited correctly (I am pretty sure) and I have mounted it (sudo mount -a), but I still can not read the contents of my disc.
[08:43] <hde> Great thanks
[08:43] <concept10> albacker, http://pastebin.com/302319
[08:43] <hde> I am new to the OS and I have to say I am in love.
[08:43] <albacker> thanks concept10
[08:43] <popeyeray> there is no "root" gui login in ubuntu for your safety.
[08:43] <delire> SirGrok: is this in nautilus?
[08:43] <SirGrok> Blast. I just figured it out. I think.... This is queer.
[08:43] <e-head> hey people.
[08:43] <spanglesontoast> mines a lifeview FlyVideo II
[08:43] <SirGrok> delire, no, it is in XFE.
[08:43] <delire> SirGrok: right.
[08:43] <e-head> i'm getting kernel panics ...
[08:44] <delire> e-head: eek. while doing what? during boot?
[08:44] <e-head> when booting ... VFS can't find root ...
[08:44] <mbruemmer> mp3 is playing but the sound has no volume
[08:44] <e-head> delire: yeah.
[08:44] <bphan> justin thaks
[08:44] <popeyeray> here in our little Afrikan village "ubuntu" means "safety first"
[08:44] <SirGrok> delire, I ran a manual mount command and it popped up when I went back and went looking.... Does XFE not support reading from CDROM?
[08:44] <mbruemmer> all my sound levels are raised high
[08:44] <e-head> i'm using a kernel i compiled myself.
[08:44] <AnguS> hello!
[08:44] <delire> e-head: sounds like /boot/menu.lst has a bad entry.
[08:44] <AnguS> i want apt to use a proxy server... where do i configure that?
[08:44] <Seveas> e-head, don't forget to make an initrd then...
[08:44] <delire> SirGrok: i don't use this XFE.
[08:44] <e-head> i compiled ext2/3 support INTO the kernel.
[08:44] <Seveas> e-head, you might need more
[08:44] <e-head> Seveas: i wan't to avoid using a initrd if i can.
[08:45] <SirGrok> delire, alright. I will figure some stuff out.
[08:45] <Seveas> like IDE...
[08:45] <e-head> ahh ...
[08:45] <mbruemmer> b ut the sound is  not hearable untill i rest my head very close to the ibook speaker
[08:45] <delire> e-head: BLCK_IDE from memory
[08:45] <Seveas> or whatever you might need :)
[08:45] <SirGrok> What is everyone's favorite file manager (that isn't window manager specific)?
[08:45] <e-head> Seveas: thanks. I tried to do it fast instead of going through all the pages in menuconfig.
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> e-head : basically i think you didnt compile support for your disks into the kernel
[08:45] <e-head> i guess i'll have to take a closer look.
[08:45] <Seveas> SirGrok, mc :)
[08:45] <justin> SirGrok: zsh
[08:45] <lsuactiafner> e-head : or some archane option
[08:45] <e-head> thanks for the tip guys.
[08:45] <Seveas> e-head, good luck
[08:46] <e-head> yeah.
[08:46] <mbruemmer> ok alsa mixer pci output1 was not raised
[08:46] <delire> e-head: make sure you have 'CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y' in .config
[08:46] <e-head> look at that ... almost all ATA stuff is modules.
[08:46] <e-head> that's probably it.
[08:46] <popeyeray> my SuSE 9.3 gave me a "can't find sda? kernel panick!" so i trashed it for ubuntu!
[08:46] <mbruemmer> now ive got sound at all
[08:46] <nalioth> SirGrok: try krusader (mc via kde)
[08:46] <spanglesontoast> what's bttv?
[08:47] <J0el> how do i specify gui display options in grub?
[08:47] <mbruemmer> what is going on with flash on ppc
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> e-head : take a .config from the ubuntu kernel or something, then for each submenu disable what you dont need
[08:47] <bphan> justin: I do see the networks setting program to set my WEP Key, but how do I specify that it's 64 bits Key 1?
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> e-head : leave what you dont know what it is
[08:47] <nalioth> mbruemmer: you have no flash on ppc
[08:47] <popeyeray> i have fedora core 4, suse, even xandros! but these ubuntu village people have outdone themselves!
[08:47] <delire> lsuactiafner: hehe.. hmmm
[08:47] <J0el> like vga= ..?
[08:47] <ccc> Heimdall: ah, all you need to do is overwrite /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png with the new icon.
[08:47] <Seveas> mbruemmer, flash on linux ppc is quite impossible
[08:47] <nalioth> mbruemmer: its a commercial offering for x86 only
[08:47] <justin> bphan: no idea... you do realize that a 64bit wep key is completely useless, right?
[08:47] <SirGrok> nalioth, I don't understand "mc via kde" line... I think if I did, some of my problems could be fixed (I don't run KDE but whenever I load a KDE based app it goes berzerkers)
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> e-head : then as you get xperience you can do as you please and play withthings you dont know about
[08:48] <mbruemmer> can musik player read itunes plists
[08:48] <mbruemmer> ??
[08:48] <delire> J0el: that is for setting text size during boot et al. not background graphics etc.
[08:48] <nalioth> SirGrok: krusader is "midnight commander" as presented by kdelibs
[08:48] <popeyeray> i must donate some funds to ubuntu to help keep there servers strong!!!
[08:48] <Seveas> popeyeray, see the ubuntu homepage for a donation link :)
[08:48] <delire> mbruemmer: gtkpod and amarok can ISTR.
[08:48] <nalioth> mbruemmer: m3u files are m3u files
[08:49] <nalioth> mbruemmer: you will need extra libs to play aac and mp4 audio
[08:49] <e-head> damn fellas ... i have like 50 mudules loaded !
[08:49] <nost2hight> room ubuntu in spanish???
[08:49] <Twiggy> Has anybody here setup their gnome to render with cairo?
[08:49] <e-head> i just did a lsmod.
[08:49] <Twiggy> I have the libs installed, I dunno how to tell it to start using it though
[08:49] <bphan> justin: I do but then stil better than nothing..
[08:49] <delire> e-head: yikes.
[08:49] <Seveas> nost2hight, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol
[08:49] <e-head> i guess it needs them all.
[08:49] <nost2hight> thank seveas
[08:49] <e-head> i think "older" distros used to compile more straight into the kernel is all
[08:50] <Seveas> e-head, sed -e 's/=m/=y/' -i .config
[08:50] <Seveas> :)
[08:50] <delire> hehe ouch
[08:50] <delire> monolithic
[08:50] <bphan> justin: I have MAC protectino and all that, and yes I know airsnot and detect all that but then.. what do you prefer?
[08:50] <Seveas> e-head, the all-in-the kernel approach is archaic
[08:50] <e-head> are you serious Seveas ? that's awesome.
[08:50] <delire> e-head: man that kernel will be very annoying to run.
[08:50] <bphan> justin: is  128 encryption is better? or WPA?
[08:50] <e-head> i was wondering if there was a way to map modules straight to the .config file
[08:51] <Seveas> e-head, DO NOT so that, i was joking
[08:51] <e-head> Seveas: i know it's archaic ... but there are "odd" reasons to want one.
[08:51] <Seveas> putting all modules directly in the kernel is a bad idea
[08:51] <Seveas> e-head, agreed
[08:51] <e-head> actually, that is really what i need to do ... for "odd" reasons.
[08:51] <Seveas> but initrd's solve that problem for most users
[08:51] <fang77>    Hello akk
[08:51] <fang77> alll
[08:51] <J0el> delire,  I need to specify which display mode should ubuntu start in , can i specify it through grub?
[08:51] <justin> bphan: 128 is slightly better, wpa has problems too.. running something like openvpn on top of wireless is even better
[08:51] <fang77> I mean
[08:51] <fang77> heheh
[08:52] <Seveas> J0el, what do you mean with 'display mode'?
[08:52] <fang77> Anyone had luck with compositing on an ATI bard?
[08:52] <e-head> Hey guys ... how can all these modules FIT on an initrd ?
[08:52] <mcal> Can I perform a network installation (machine does not have CD drive) with ubuntu?
[08:52] <Seveas> e-head, they don't
[08:52] <e-head> or do they only put the "necessary" ones on there ? Like for the Filesystem, IDE, etc ... ?
[08:52] <Seveas> only the neccessary modules are on the initrd
[08:52] <e-head> :)
[08:53] <fang77> Kinda buggy
[08:53] <Seveas> fang: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <delire> e-head: you do need that CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
[08:53] <delire> e-head: else you will have kernel panics
[08:53] <Seveas> mcal it has been reported to be possible
[08:53] <Seveas> mcal, search the wiki :)
[08:53] <fang77> My drivers are configured and it works fine with games and all.
[08:53] <fang77> Compositing is a different story.
[08:53] <Seveas> fang77, yeah
[08:53] <e-head> delire: that's what I would like too ...
[08:53] <Seveas> that's buggy
[08:54] <mcal> Seveas: Thank you!...I will do so.
[08:54] <delire> e-head: from there one could work with macro defatults like 'Server' or 'Multimedia' etc.
[08:54] <fang77> looks pretty though.
[08:55] <delire> e-head: adding stuff like iptables or support for usb-audio support depending.
[08:55] <delire> e-head: from _there_ i could be culled.
[08:55] <fang77> I have a rather stupid question.
[08:55] <fang77> How do I start freeciv for single player???
[08:55] <fang77> Do I need to log on a server?
[08:56] <Twiggy> Anybody here using breezy?
[08:56] <Seveas> Twiggy, read the topic :)
[08:56] <delire> cat topic > /dev/channel
[08:56] <nalioth> Twiggy: most of us are not early-adopters
[08:56] <Twiggy> Seveas: Ah, thankya ;oD
[08:56] <Twiggy> nalioth: Aye, but some people are braver than others :oD
[08:56] <Seveas> nalioth, not so much a case of early adoption but of sanity :)
[08:56] <Seveas> breezy is still too unstable
[08:56] <davidubu> I'm a new ubuntu user.  I'm running hoary with kernel 2.6.10-5-386.  the kernel source package is not available for any 2.6 kernel, only 2.4.27.  do I need to add an additional line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:57] <anacron> can i get something for anti-aliasing or filtering my videofiles so that when i run them in fullscreen they don't look crappy?
[08:57] <parabolize> fang77: http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/FAQ#OK.2C_so_I_installed_Freeciv.__How_do_I_play.3F
[08:57] <fang77> Not yet. Need a stable box for my network
[08:57] <e-head> what filesystem type is used on these initrd ?
[08:57] <davidubu> I'm installing vmware and it needs to know the location of my C header files
[08:57] <fang77> Thanks parabolize!!!
[08:57] <parabolize> noproblem
[08:57] <Seveas> davidubu, first of all it's linux source, and second of all: you probably want linux-headers-$(uname -r) for whatever you need
[08:57] <Seveas> davidubu, what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:57] <nalioth> Seveas: whats the diff tween the source at kernel.org and ubuntu kernel source?
[08:57] <CarlK> I am trying to connect to a wifi ap that uses a wep key: Network Settings, Interface Properties - pick the ESSID from the list, enter the wep key, pick DHCP, hit OK, I see "Activating interface eth1" for about 60 seconds, then it goes away.  ifconfig doesn't show an IP
[08:58] <e-head> nalioth: they have the patches if you apt-cache search ...
[08:58] <davidubu> Seveas correct, I need one of those packages.  thanks
[08:58] <delire> nalioth: ubuntu source 'has many other patches et al.
[08:58] <Seveas> nalioth, the debian/ubuntu patches and of course the nice deb buildsystem to create packages
[08:58] <justin> CarlK: is the wep key the long hex string, or just a passphrase?
[08:58] <CarlK> justin - I am entering a passphrase
[08:58] <Seveas> davidubu, usually you wouldn't even need the headers too, a lot of drivers are shipped with ubuntu
[08:58] <bphan> justin: that's new information I didnt know thanks
[08:58] <justin> CarlK: try entering it as s:passphrase instead of passphrase, I think that works
[08:59] <e-head> anyone know the initrd filesystem type ?
[08:59] <cabajgtr> Can anybody answer a stupid shell scripting question?
[08:59] <justin> e-head: why?
[08:59] <CarlK> justin - um, huh?  guessing you mean enter it as a hex string?
[08:59] <Seveas> cabajgtr, just ask :)
[08:59] <cabajgtr> Is there a way to convert date formats?
[08:59] <_pax> anyone uses kxdocker?
[08:59] <CarlK> is there a string to hex converter util?
[08:59] <davidubu> Seveas I'm installing vmware and it needs to compile a module
[08:59] <cabajgtr> I'm trying to write a script to purge backups
[08:59] <e-head> justin: i want to take a look at what's on it ...
[08:59] <justin> CarlK: no, just put 's:' before the passphrase
[08:59] <ivanox> wth, I enabled the microphone, and now I got this "cracking" noise at the end of every sound ??
[09:00] <delire> cabajgtr: using substitution or just date? date has several formatting options
[09:00] <Seveas> davidubu, yeah, linux-headers-$(uname -r) should work then :)
[09:00] <e-head> it's cramfs btw .... i just tried the likely candidates.
[09:00] <CarlK> justin - ah missed that
[09:00] <Seveas> cabajgtr, of course
[09:00] <davidubu> Seveas thanks
[09:00] <cabajgtr> I have data in year/month/day/contents
[09:00] <dataw0lf|w> cabajgtr: man date
[09:01] <fang77> How do I change the language?
[09:01] <Seveas> fang77, language of what?
[09:01] <cabajgtr> and I want to say delete data from every moday-thusday more than a month old
[09:01] <fang77> Gnome
[09:01] <Seveas> fang77, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:01] <reka> i can't seem to unrar an archive, even though 'file' tells me it is a v1d archive, albeit in Win32 form.  should i try out the nonfree unrar? (what's the difference anyway ... besides it being labelled nonfree ... how am i supposed to pay anyway? o_O)
[09:01] <fang77> thanks!
[09:01] <mbirkis> how come i can't change network settings in ubuntu? i can't get past the password dialog :(
[09:02] <CarlK> justin - any chance you know the config file/command  line way to do this?
[09:02] <reka> mbirkis: : did you enter your password?
[09:02] <cabajgtr> so is there a function to figure out what day of the week 45 days ago was?
[09:02] <nalioth> reka: i use unrar-nonfree and have had 0 problems
[09:02] <mbirkis> reka: yes
[09:02] <Seveas> reka, try unrar-nonfree indeed
[09:02] <justin> CarlK: just iwconfig eth1 key s:password or whatever
[09:02] <Seveas> mbirkis, *your* password,not the root password..?
[09:02] <reka> nalioth, Seveas: so why is it called nonfree?
[09:02] <Seveas> reka, because it's binary only
[09:03] <reka> am i supposed to pay or something?
[09:03] <justin> CarlK: adding wireless-key to /etc/network/interfaces works too
[09:03] <CarlK> justin - thanks
[09:03] <reka> Seveas: ah, thanks
[09:03] <mbirkis> Seveas: root password
[09:03] <Seveas> it's free as in you don't pay, but it's not free software as in FSF free or open source
[09:03] <Seveas> mbirkis, you never need a root password in these things
[09:03] <Seveas> sudo/gksudo wants *YOUR* password
[09:03] <Seveas> mbirkis: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:03] <mbirkis> Seveas: hmm... ok will try
[09:04] <mbirkis> Seveas: with my password i get "Child terminated with 1 status"
[09:04] <Seveas> mbirkis, then you do something odd..
[09:04] <Seveas> try sudo network-admin in a terminal and see what happens
[09:05] <nalioth> reka: cuz it' not open source?
[09:05] <reka> nalioth, Seveas: nonfree worked, thanks.
[09:05] <reka> nalioth: yeah, lousy multiple definitions of free
[09:05] <reka> ...
[09:05] <mbirkis> Seveas: i am missing in the sudoers file... will go sort it
[09:05] <nalioth> reka: how many decompressors do you have on your system?
[09:06] <Seveas> mbirkis, add your user to the admin group then :)
[09:06] <mbirkis> Seveas: is that the same?
[09:06] <Seveas> reka, that's the inherent ambiguity of human language :)
[09:06] <Seveas> mbirkis, the admin group should be in the sudoers file
[09:07] <valtsu2> anyone from finland?
[09:07] <ccc> almost
[09:07] <valtsu2> anyone from scandinavia?
[09:07] <ccc> sweden
[09:08] <Flying-Penguin> excuse me... I am kinda new to linux. but I am brand new to ubuntu and I am trying to install ati drivers, I have just installed the drivers and rebooted so I desided to try glxgears to see if it worked and I got this in return
[09:08] <Flying-Penguin> ] Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:08] <Flying-Penguin> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[09:08] <delire> reka: 'free' in a free software context means 'free to distribute and manipulate'
[09:08] <kong0> can anyone copy their etc/apt/sources.list and PM it to me? pls would help alot
[09:08] <delire> Flying-Penguin: was that as root?
[09:08] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, you must edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf too
[09:08] <nalioth> kong0: ask Seveas for the 'safe and sane' sources.list URL
[09:08] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <valtsu2> Linux:Be Root - Windows:Reboot
[09:08] <kong0> someone who has a working universe&multiverse
[09:09] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas, I did flgrxconfig it edits /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:09] <Flying-Penguin> yes it was delire
[09:09] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas, I will check that webstie out thatnk you
[09:09] <delire> Flying-Penguin: that's why it didn't work.
[09:09] <valtsu2> where are u from? i am from finland!
[09:09] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, you should run graphical stuff as you
[09:09] <kong0> seveas: i am wondering if you could help me out...
[09:09] <Seveas> not as root
[09:09] <Flying-Penguin> delire: I tryed it as non root as well...
[09:10] <Seveas> kong0, that depends on the problem :)
[09:10] <justin> Flying-Penguin: eh, you didn't want run run flgrxconfig, all you had to do was change one word in xorg.conf
[09:10] <delire> Flying-Penguin: oh.. what are you trying to do? you don't have direct rendering on an ATI card using the proprietary drivers?
[09:10] <valtsu2> must to go!!Linux rules
[09:10] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, have you restarted the X server after editing xorg.conf?
[09:10] <valtsu2> oh!
[09:10] <reka> nalioth: file-roller and unrar.  any reason why?
[09:10] <kong0> i need your universe multiverse script in your sources.list...plz
[09:10] <Flying-Penguin> yes Seveas I restarted...
[09:10] <nalioth> reka: file-roller is front-end
[09:10] <Seveas> kong0: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:10] <reka> nalioth: i avoid rar files anyway.  just this time i needed it and the file only came in .rar format
[09:11] <nalioth> reka: how bout unace, 7zip, and all those?
[09:11] <reka> nalioth: well i don't know then .. there's gzip, bzip ...
[09:11] <Seveas> reka, you also have bzip2, compress and gzip :)
[09:11] <HappyFool> hello all
[09:11] <kong0> ok thx
[09:11] <Flying-Penguin> delire: I am trying to install ati drivers and I wanted to check by runing glxgears
[09:11] <valtsu2> Linux User:Unix rules - Windows User:Unwise words - Macintosh User:Sure isn't Macho
[09:11] <reka> nalioth: that's a trick question isn't it?
[09:11] <delire> Flying-Penguin: try 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[09:11] <valtsu2> those was anagrams!!
[09:11] <nalioth> reka: ya never know when you're gonna come across something ace'd up
[09:12] <nalioth> reka: and 7zip is becoming popular, also
[09:12] <reka> nalioth: i doubt it.  that's the first time i heard of the ace format
[09:12] <Seveas> 7zip has patent issues, hasn't it?
[09:12] <nalioth> 7zip is GPL
[09:12] <Seveas> k
[09:12] <CarlK> man iwconfig "passphrase is currently not supported."  what is the difference between passphrase and a string?
[09:12] <Seveas> passphrase is a phrase used to create wep keys
[09:13] <delire> Flying-Penguin: no need to msg me ;) just give me the output of the command i gave you above.
[09:13] <Seveas> string is a special format for a wep key
[09:13] <Flying-Penguin> that is the out put delire it was to big to put in here...
[09:13] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, put it on a pastebin then :)
[09:13] <Flying-Penguin> ok...
[09:13] <delire> Flying-Penguin: 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[09:14] <samuel> sup all
[09:14] <delire> Flying-Penguin: not 'glxgears'
[09:14] <mariux> can someone give me a url to a good respository for 3rd party stuff? Mostly miss mplayer...
[09:14] <mbirkis> is there a place i can add the "hoary cd" as a repo instead of using the cd?
[09:14] <samuel> anyone here have any recomendations on email programs?
[09:14] <Seveas> mariux, mplayer is in multiverse
[09:14] <Flying-Penguin> delire: sorry glxgears was the top line but then I ran glxinfo... but I didn't put it together
[09:14] <kong0> seveas that site u gave me was really good thx for your help
[09:14] <samuel> evolution does not have good support for syncing imap and local folders i find...
[09:15] <mbirkis> err finding a online replacement for the hoary cd i meen
[09:15] <Seveas> mbirkis, the hoary repositories :)
[09:15] <Seveas> samuel, thunderbird and mutt are used quite a lot
[09:15] <mbirkis> Seveas: but i removed the cd from the repo list and now i can't find the nfs-common package :(
[09:16] <Flying-Penguin> delire: pastebin isn't working right now... and I forgot the other site. so is it ok if I wisper spam you?
[09:16] <Seveas> mbirkis add the network repositories
[09:16] <Seveas> mbirkis: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:16] <Seveas> mbirkis: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:16] <mbirkis> Seveas: thanx
[09:16] <Heimdall> hey, could someone tell me where I could find the python-xdg 0.14 or higher; package proposed on htt://packages.ubuntu.com is lony 0.9-1
[09:16] <CarlK> other than waiting for dhclient to time out, is there some way to see if the ESSID/WEP is right?
[09:16] <delire> Flying-Penguin: sure.. though back in 2 minutes. it's likely i can help here.
[09:16] <Heimdall> thanks
[09:17] <Flying-Penguin> delire: I sent it to you.
[09:18] <samuel> Seveas, i quite like both of them... but i would like to continue with evolution since it fits in quite nicely with palms... any ideas on how to get it to sync properly?
[09:21] <Seveas> samuel, no idea, I don't use IMAP
[09:21] <samuel> Seveas, thx
[09:21] <delire> Flying-Penguin: hmm didn't get it. can you msg it to me line by line?
[09:23] <krueger> Hello
[09:24] <parabolize> hello
[09:24] <Seveas> olleh
[09:24] <krueger> What's up ?
[09:24] <kong0_> i cant install w32codecs...
[09:24] <TokenBad> I just tried to configure a program in linux and says needs zlib
[09:25] <kong0_> thats very strange
[09:25] <TokenBad> can install that through apt-get?
[09:25] <kong0_> since mplayer worked
[09:25] <delire> TokenBad: to compile a program?
[09:25] <TokenBad> checking for deflateInit_ in -lz... no
[09:25] <TokenBad> configure: error: zlib is required.
[09:25] <delire> TokenBad: you probably need libzlib-dev
[09:25] <TokenBad> thats what I got
[09:25] <delire> TokenBad: these include header files for use in the compilation process.
[09:25] <Seveas> kong0, w32codecs is only in marillat/backports
[09:25] <delire> TokenBad: apt-cache search zlib dev
[09:26] <e-head> hey guys ...
[09:26] <krueger> hey
[09:26] <delire> TokenBad: select the most recent version and install it.
[09:26] <kong0_> i have multiverse universe
[09:26] <Tomcat_> What library package do I need when a program's ./configure asks for "GL libs"? (I want to compile "gravit", a gravity simulator)
[09:26] <e-head> what's the synergy between /etc/modprobe.d/ and /etc/modules.conf ?
[09:26] <nalioth> kong0_: you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  for the w32 codecs
[09:26] <delire> Tomcat_: apt-cache search opengl dev
[09:26] <^thehatsrule^> Tomcat_: those are opengl libraries?
[09:26] <Seveas> e-head, modules.conf is deprecated iirc...
[09:26] <e-head> modprobe seems to use an insane # of config files.
[09:27] <e-head> that's it then ? basically modprobe.d/ is the "new" way of doing what was done in modules.conf ?
[09:27] <HappyFool> /etc/modules is different to /etc/modprobe.conf
[09:27] <Seveas> ... which is again different from /etc/modules.conf :)
[09:27] <Seveas> e-head, read the manpage for modprobe
[09:27] <TokenBad> checking for png_write_image in -lpng... no
[09:27] <TokenBad> configure: error: The png library is required.
[09:27] <kong0_> oh my god....i cant get w32codecs
[09:27] <TokenBad> got this now
[09:28] <kong0_> they have patent!
[09:28] <krueger> which music player is you favorit ? etc. xmms..
[09:28] <Tomcat_> ^thehatsrule^: Most probably, but there are a hundred packages that say something about gl libs (mesa for example, got them all installed now)
[09:29] <nalioth> kong0_: you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  for the w32 codecs
[09:29] <kong0_> no
[09:29] <delire> TokenBad: you now need libpng-dev or similar
[09:29] <reka> delire: dammit.  i always installed the mesa*-dev and some other x*-dev packages when i was creating opengl programs.  so there is an opengl dev package thta has all the Gl/GLUT libraries?
[09:29] <delire> TokenBad: compiling software always requires the 'header' or development files of other software.
[09:29] <e-head> Seveas: i read all that stuff and still can't figure it out.  :)
[09:29] <Seveas> TokenBad, waht are you trying to install?
[09:29] <reka> *GL/GLUT
[09:29] <delire> reka: libglut3-dev
[09:29] <TokenBad> yeah figure that...
[09:30] <mbirkis> ubuntu was really nice :) nice job folks!
[09:30] <Flying-Penguin> hey delire sorry abought beeing afk
[09:30] <delire> reka: for the mesa stuff xlibmesa-gl-dev
[09:30] <e-head> modprobe manpage makes no mention of /etc/modules.conf ... to add to the confusion there is a modprobe.conf file too.
[09:30] <MajestiK> I just finished a Ubuntu install, and I don't remember if I entered a root password, but the ones I've tried, which are the ones that I think I'd have used don't work.. is that "normal" ?
[09:30] <Flying-Penguin> are you still there delire?
[09:30] <Seveas> MajestiK: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:30] <delire> Flying-Penguin: yes, msg me the output of glxinfo | grep direct
[09:30] <e-head> i think maybe it uses both ... the whole thing is sort of a mess to be honest.
[09:30] <delire> Flying-Penguin: line by line (avoid flooding)
[09:30] <TokenBad> Seveas, flam3-2.6b2...its for apophysis
[09:30] <delire> e-head: same on any platform. try it in windows.
[09:30] <mariux> what do i have to add to my system to play mp3s in rhythmbox?
[09:31] <TokenBad> checking for XML_ParserCreate in -lexpat... no
[09:31] <TokenBad> configure: error: The expat xml library is required.
[09:31] <TokenBad> now gave that error
[09:31] <Seveas> TokenBad, hmm, does it have a readme file that says which libraries it needs?
[09:31] <kong0_> what codec do i need to play .avi files?
[09:31] <krueger> you need the gstreamer 0.8 mad in universe i guess
[09:31] <nalioth> mariux: see what ubotu says
[09:31] <nalioth> !Restricted
[09:31] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:31] <mariux> ahh, a bot :)
[09:31] <Seveas> TokenBad, libexpat1-dev
[09:31] <nalioth> kong0_: you can go to www.mplayerhq.hu  for the w32 codecs (get the "essential package"
[09:31] <Flying-Penguin> actuly delire how bought joining #flood???
[09:31] <HappyFool> e-head: http://www.netadmintools.com/html/modules.conf.man.html
[09:32] <Seveas> mariux, basically: you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:32] <TokenBad> ok how you figure out the package name
[09:32] <TokenBad> so can do it myself?
[09:32] <delire> TokenBad: 'apt-cache search expat dev' the '-l' signifies the library it's trying to find against during compile.
[09:32] <kong0_> nalioth i cant install manually i need to do it in the terminal i dont know how...
[09:32] <Seveas> TokenBad, in this case i tried: apt-cache search expat | grep dev
[09:32] <e-head> thanks HappyFool
[09:32] <TokenBad> oh..
[09:32] <HappyFool> e-head: also, strings $(which modprobe)|grep /etc/modules.conf -- so despite its absence on the ubuntu man-page, it evidently isn't forgotten
[09:33] <TokenBad> another error
[09:33] <TokenBad> checking for jpeg_start_compress in -ljpeg... no
[09:33] <TokenBad> configure: error: The jpeg library is required.
[09:33] <HappyFool> TokenBad: have you tried using apt-cache search ?
[09:33] <nalioth> kong0_: you can do it using your favorite file manager
[09:33] <HappyFool> TokenBad: instead of asking us each time ?
[09:33] <Seveas> TokenBad, libjpeg-mmx-dev
[09:33] <e-head> strings $(which modprobe)|grep /etc/modules.conf
[09:33] <e-head> whoops
[09:33] <Seveas> or libjpeg62-dev
[09:33] <delire> TokenBad: this output is giving you clues as to what you need to compile this software (and alot of other software) on your machine. learn to read these cues and install the related libraries.
[09:34] <kong0_> nalioth, that page u gave me was a patent propagande page where i couldnt find any mirrors...
[09:34] <kong0_> i dont have any file manager
[09:34] <nalioth> kong0_: at the bottom, it says "click here to continue"
[09:34] <Seveas> TokenBad, if it says missing library foo, use apt-cache search libfoo | grep dev to find out what you need
[09:34] <kong0_> i installed this os this afternoon
[09:34] <nalioth> kong0_: nautilus, konqueror, xffm4, mc are all file managers
[09:34] <TokenBad> ok when I do search I don't find the files you guys list
[09:34] <TokenBad> for example I got this instead
[09:34] <delire> TokenBad: compiling software is non-trivial on any platform.
[09:34] <kong0_> ok
[09:34] <mbirkis> how do i get the nautilus completely spatial in ubuntu?
[09:34] <e-head> but ... so, does modprobe read /etc/modules.conf, then /etc/modprobe.conf, them /etc/modprobe.d/ ? it's still confusing ...
[09:35] <TokenBad> libjpeg-mmx-progs - Programs for manipulating jpeg files using mmx optimization
[09:35] <TokenBad> see thats what I got when searched
[09:35] <Seveas> TokenBad, that's why you do | grep dev
[09:35] <Seveas> TokenBad, if it says missing library foo, use `apt-cache search libfoo | grep dev` to find out what you need
[09:35] <sniker> hi, someone can help me with the timeout 1.11-6 package for amd64, i've some errors when i compile it...
[09:35] <HappyFool> e-head: hard to tell. why not just stick with /etc/modprobe.d/
[09:35] <TokenBad> ok
[09:36] <delire> TokenBad: the development files you need there is libjpeg62-dev. i found this by using the exact command based on your error that Seveas provided you.
[09:36] <HappyFool> e-head: if you *really* want to know, once can always get the source for modprobe ;) no need to reverse engineer
[09:36] <thechitowncubs> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43058  (anyone want to contribute to that script to get it to work for totem), its probably really easy
[09:36] <e-head> :) true
[09:36] <e-head> I found this:
[09:36] <e-head> /etc/modules.conf: used with 2.4 series kernels.
[09:36] <e-head> /etc/modprobe.conf: used with 2.6 series kernels.
[09:36] <kong0_> how do i open them? should i start nautilus or smething?
[09:37] <Seveas> e-head, ubuntu uses 2.6
[09:37] <delire> e-head: the 2.6.* range of kernels use module-init-tools, a different system and this resources this file.
[09:37] <nalioth> kong0_: they should open with file-roller or right click on the file in nautilus
[09:37] <kong0_> i get the archive something
[09:38] <Flickie> hi need help with a speedtouch 330 modem :(
[09:38] <Flickie> got it working once but now it doesnt seem to want to work
[09:39] <kong0_> what is nautilus? how do i open it?
[09:39] <e-head> alright ... this makes sense now. timestamps show /etc/modules.conf hasn't been touched since install. modprobe.d/ was touched last kernel compile
[09:39] <TiMiDo> kong0_: open what?
[09:39] <TiMiDo> Flickie: usb?
[09:39] <delire> kong0_: is it the gnome/linux equivalent of windows explorer (for instance.. and more).
[09:39] <Flickie> TiMiDo: Yep
[09:39] <e-head> so ... out with /etc/modules.conf ... in with /etc/modprobe.d/ !
[09:39] <kong0_> nautilus
[09:39] <kong0_> well i cnat find it
[09:39] <delire> kong0_: click on any folder
[09:40] <TiMiDo> Flickie: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/speedtouch/
[09:40] <delire> kong0_: at that point you are using nautilus.
[09:40] <TiMiDo> kong0_: find what?
[09:40] <Stephen> hey
[09:40] <kong0_> i really need to learn how the hell i install tar files...
[09:40] <TiMiDo> hello Stephen
[09:40] <delire> TiMiDo: he is looking for nautilus
[09:40] <^thehatsrule^> lo
[09:40] <ataq> hey
[09:41] <TiMiDo> do whereis nautilus kong0_
[09:41] <Stephen> does the GDM version in Hoary support "early-login" like GDM in Fedora Core 4?
[09:41] <^thehatsrule^> kong0_: to extract, use tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:41] <kong0_> i understand that but i still cant install them by just clicking on them
[09:41] <delire> kong0_: tar files (tarballs) are archives, like *.zip files.
[09:41] <Seveas> Stephen, 'early login'?
[09:41] <ataq> Would anyone recommend FC3 over Ubuntu
[09:41] <Flickie> TiMiDo: which one should i get?
[09:41] <kong0_> i know
[09:41] <Seveas> you mean automatic login?
[09:41] <delire> kong0_: they predate the *.zip format.
[09:41] <nalioth> kong0_: Appications > System Tools > File Manager
[09:41] <Seveas> ataq, no :)
[09:41] <kong0_> but the files in them is what i need
[09:41] <TiMiDo> Flickie: try looking around,
[09:41] <Stephen> it says its GDM 2.6+ which Hoary has, but I can't find instructions on activating it in anything other than fedora
[09:41] <kong0_> to install
[09:41] <Stephen> nah Seveas
[09:41] <nalioth> ataq: if you ara a masochist, go ahead with fc3
[09:41] <delire> kong0_: the can contain anything, not necessarily installable software
[09:41] <TiMiDo> kong0_: apt-cache search nautilus
[09:41] <kab00m> hi folks
[09:42] <`psycho> hi ppl
[09:42] <`psycho> :)
[09:42] <delire> TiMiDo: he wants to use nautilus
[09:42] <reka> Stephen: dunno.  but it's supposed to be faster than warty's.
[09:42] <ataq> its just I am having problems on Ubuntu
[09:42] <Seveas> ataq, if you per se want fc, use fc4
[09:42] <amonkey> ataq, i'd reccomend it over FC2, fedora is really slow in my expierence
[09:42] <Stephen> early login, its a feature which means GDM comes up as soon as possible
[09:42] <Seveas> but Ubuntu is way better :)
[09:42] <Seveas> Stephen, ah ok
[09:42] <`psycho> anyone had a problem with dbus-daemon-1 ?
[09:42] <unreal> heh
[09:42] <Seveas> they're working on that
[09:42] <Flying-Penguin> OK I am back...
[09:42] <Stephen> i.e. as core servers are loading
[09:42] <kong0_> open failed...
[09:42] <Stephen> *loaded
[09:42] <`psycho> i get the issus it starts using my cpu 100%
[09:42] <TiMiDo> kong0_: what does it come up when you do whereis nautilus ?
[09:42] <`psycho> :S
[09:42] <kab00m> what is the best and fastest way to install ubuntu on 40 computers at the same time?
[09:42] <ataq> Ye're right I'd say
[09:42] <delire> Flying-Penguin: msg me for assistance getting hardware accelleration for your ATI
[09:42] <Stephen> rather than waiting for the likes of apache, sendmail etc which aren't needed for login
[09:42] <Flickie> does Ubuntu support Hyper threading?
[09:42] <Seveas> kab00m, have 40 cd's :)
[09:43] <nalioth> Flickie: yes
[09:43] <Seveas> Flickie, yes, but it is disabled by default since there is a design bug in the hyperthreading technology
[09:43] <Flickie> oooh ok how do i enavle it?
[09:43] <Seveas> you will need to enable it with the ht=on kernel argument
[09:43] <kong0_> OPEN FAILED...really irritated on the unnecesarily complex extracting....
[09:43] <Seveas> (might be ht=yes)
[09:43] <Flickie> ok ok brb
[09:43] <nalioth> Flickie: with an SMP kernel
[09:43] <nalioth> or what seveas said
[09:43] <Seveas> Flickie, search the USN archives :)
[09:43] <kab00m> Seveas: is there a way without the need of burning 40 cds?
[09:43] <Flickie> just need to get my modem workin :(
[09:44] <ataq> whats Gnomes Control Panel for graphics card config?
[09:44] <kong0_> ok new and more important question
[09:44] <nalioth> kong0_: there is a bit of a learning curve to linux
[09:44] <Seveas> kab00m, there is work in progress on netinstalls
[09:44] <TiMiDo> Flickie: do lspci and see if the modem comes up
[09:44] <Flickie> brb
[09:44] <kong0_> how do i get totem-xine?
[09:44] <Flickie> ok
[09:44] <nalioth> kong0_: use synaptic
[09:44] <`psycho> um, dbus-daemon-1 uses 100% cpu
[09:44] <`psycho> HELP?
[09:44] <`psycho> o.o
[09:44] <Seveas> kab00m, you can find success stories about netinstalls on the wiki
[09:44] <kong0_> i cant find it there
[09:44] <Flickie> its not pci tho its usb
[09:44] <kong0_> its gone
[09:44] <Seveas> `psycho, does it happen all the time?
[09:44] <kab00m> Seveas: ok, thank you very much :)
[09:44] <kong0_> like ive havent installed multiverse wich i have
[09:44] <TiMiDo> it may come up
[09:44] <nalioth> kong0_: have you hit the 'reload' button at the top left?
[09:45] <kong0_> heh no
[09:45] <HappyFool> totem-xine is in universe
[09:45] <`psycho> it's connected with NX remote...a user connects with NX and all of the sudden bus flips out
[09:45] <`psycho> :X
[09:45] <TiMiDo> speedtouch - userspace driver for the Alcatel Speedtouch USB ADSL Adapter
[09:45] <Seveas> `psycho, ouch
[09:45] <TiMiDo> that's what i get with apt-cache search speedtouch
[09:45] <`psycho> um?
[09:45] <Seveas> I'll investigate on that
[09:45] <kong0_> alright thx reaload worked
[09:45] <Flickie> ok ok well im going to try now
[09:45] <Flickie> brb
[09:45] <`psycho> please do
[09:45] <kong0_> i feel im getting more happy
[09:46] <`psycho> umm would it help if i give remote to my pc right now?
[09:46] <`psycho> cos its happening right now
[09:46] <`psycho> it's stuck somewhere in a loop
[09:46] <`psycho> :X
[09:46] <nalioth> `psycho: got any good tv on your pc now?
[09:46] <`psycho> tv?
[09:46] <`psycho> huh?
[09:46] <`psycho> tv card?
[09:46] <nalioth> `psycho: sorry, you offered 'remote to your pc'
[09:46] <kong0_> i dont think i need w32codecs i skipp that part
[09:47] <`psycho> LMAO
[09:47] <nalioth> `psycho: my attempt at humor failed
[09:47] <`psycho> ahahaha
[09:47] <ivolooser> hi together
[09:47] <ivolooser> i try to install wlan on my notebook
[09:47] <`psycho> i meant ssh
[09:47] <`psycho> :P
[09:47] <TiMiDo> alright
[09:47] <fetman> anybody here who have played with lirc?
[09:47] <Seveas> `psycho, does it happen all the time when you use nx?
[09:47] <kong0_> sry all the great helpers im just to neewbie on linux
[09:47] <TiMiDo> `psycho: don't is always good to read
[09:47] <ivolooser> everything works fine but i lost my lo device
[09:47] <kong0_> how might i install java?
[09:48] <`psycho> seveas, umm most the time when some other user connects..not for me
[09:48] <TiMiDo> ivolooser: what kernel?
[09:48] <`psycho> but very foter definitely
[09:48] <ivolooser> i think on the console try apt-get install java
[09:48] <X3N> yes it is Flying-Penguin
[09:48] <Seveas> foter..?
[09:48] <`psycho> then i kill dbuss and it's ok again
[09:48] <`psycho> :X
[09:48] <TiMiDo> naw java isn't a packaged
[09:48] <nalioth> !Java
[09:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[09:48] <`psycho> *often sry not foter
[09:48] <`psycho> xD
[09:49] <Seveas> `psycho, try dbus-monitor to see what happens
[09:49] <HappyFool> that bot has way too much attitude
[09:49] <ivolooser> kernel: 2.6.10-5
[09:49] <`psycho> run?
[09:49] <nalioth> kong0_: ubotu said the answer
[09:49] <tahooie> kong0_, if you go to www.java.com it has instructions. They worked for me.
[09:49] <TiMiDo> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[09:49] <Seveas> TiMiDo, please stop giving people bad advise...
[09:49] <TiMiDo> oh ok sorry Seveas (:
[09:49] <_pax> !kxdocker
[09:49] <ubotu> _pax: I haven't a clue
[09:49] <kong0_> ok thx
[09:49] <mbruemmer> how to set up rosengarden 4 (audio and sequencer) it woll not run on my ibook g4
[09:50] <Flying-Penguin> X3N: I thought you used FC
[09:50] <X3N> i use many distros
[09:51] <Seveas> kong0_, the short version of the java-install-howto isL
[09:51] <tahooie> kong0_, click on manual download, then 'instructions' next to the one you watn.
[09:51] <CarlK_> once I have used iwconfig to set essid/wep, how can I test to see if the AP likes my settings? (other than waiting for dhcp to time out)
[09:51] <Seveas> kong0_: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[09:51] <Toba> dammit
[09:52] <Toba> I tried moving the top bar over to the right by dragging it
[09:52] <Toba> and now it's all funky and on the left
[09:52] <Toba> how do I tell it to get the hell back to the top of my screen?
[09:52] <HappyFool> you can't drag it back to the top?
[09:52] <Toba> the launcher links are the size of new york now
[09:52] <reka> Toba: er, drag it back there?
[09:52] <Toba> no, because ever single bit of space on it is clickable
[09:52] <HappyFool> hmm
[09:52] <Toba> there is no place that doesn't actually do anything
[09:52] <TiMiDo> Toba: gnome?
[09:52] <reka> Toba: ah, so that wasn't just the one guy who did that. :-)
[09:52] <Toba> yeah gnome
[09:53] <TiMiDo> right click on the icon,
[09:53] <reka> Toba: right-click on the panel and change the size through prefs
[09:53] <Toba> um
[09:53] <reka> *properties