[19:55] <sKew^_-> urlin2u, Gnome ubuntu luci 10.04.3
[19:55] <sKew^_-> amd 64bit
[19:56] <urlin2u> sKew^_-, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras      this will load codecs and other needed stuff.
[19:56] <AlanBell> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[19:56] <jeremiah_> i get a error for that to
[19:57] <pingec> AlanBell so there is no way I could open a webpage in 10000x10000 to make a screenshot
[19:57] <sKew^_-> urlin2u, do i need to reboot? relog?
[19:57] <jeremiah_> E: Couldn't find package openjdk-7-jre
[19:58] <jeremiah_> that is the error
[19:58] <Raymond_> schnuffle, how do you want me to send the print out
[19:58] <urlin2u> sKew^_-, no it will be installed, not sure if the problems is lack of codecs but rthat is the standrad pack of them.
[19:58] <LjL> jeremiah_: do you have the Universe repository enabled? pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:58] <AlanBell> pingec err, that sounds like a bad idea, however you might be able to script geko or webkit or something to render the html to an image
[19:58] <mega2> how do i get my server to restart
[19:58] <schnuffle> Raymond_: use pastebinit
[19:58] <sKew^_-> kk, o think its problem whit my grapich card :S
[19:58] <pingec> thanks for the idea
[19:58] <sKew^_-> cuz it still laggs, :S
[19:58] <LjL> jeremiah_: also which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[19:59] <jeremiah_> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[19:59] <carbon_> I  have a silly question.  In a conf file.  Is a ";" the same as a comment   "#"         ?
[19:59] <jeremiah_> was the error for that one.
[19:59] <LjL> jeremiah_: open it with "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[19:59] <AlanBell> jeremiah_: are you the one using an antique version of Ubuntu?
[19:59] <LjL> carbon_: it depends on the config file. usually not.
[19:59] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: did you try install property driver for your gfx card
[20:00] <jeremiah_> yes
[20:00] <carbon_> LjL :   it's the smb.cong file
[20:00] <carbon_> f
[20:00] <Raymond_> schnuffle,  pastebin.com/uq0znfAe
[20:00] <sKew^_-> i activated the grapich card driver from "hardware drivers"
[20:00] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, after you were informed of eol yesterday you don't mention your running one shame on you.
[20:00] <sholsapp> Anyone know what package I need to install to get a copy of '/usr/include/asm-generic/cmpxchg.h'?
[20:01] <jeremiah_> and that is...
[20:01] <sholsapp> I installed 'gcc's and 'gcc-multilib'
[20:01] <Mister_Argent> Hello! I've got a HP Tx2 running Ubuntu 11.10. Anyone here know how i can make Ubuntu recognize that the hardware screen rotation button exists?
[20:01] <AlanBell> !info openjdk-6-jre intrepid
[20:01] <Raymond_> is there a way to download the 11.04 update in windows and install in ubuntu?
[20:01] <Raymond_> updates*
[20:02] <LjL> carbon_: in that one yes, it appears ; and # are both comments
[20:02] <theadmin> sholsapp: apt-file might help
[20:02] <reliability> what is the proper way to set the default kernel to boot from (3.0.0-15 currently has an issue)?
[20:02] <theadmin> !find /usr/include/asm-generic/cmpxchg.h
[20:02] <carbon_> LjL:  Many thanks
[20:02] <schnuffle> Raymond_: to get your hardware working under oneiric: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source  and then sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[20:03] <kim_> Hi folks, is it possible to make shotwell single click at all? I heard you can delete the double click event?
[20:03] <theadmin> Hm.
[20:03] <micahcavaleri> Hey, all.  What is the best tool for overclocking my processor (Pentium M using Lucid Lynx)?
[20:03] <schnuffle> Raymond_: isn't it possible to use the wired connection?
[20:03] <sholsapp> theadmin I'm not finding that app
[20:03] <Guest34690> hi, how to play all types of songs and movies in kubuntu?
[20:03] <theadmin> sholsapp: sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file FILENAME
[20:03] <Raymond_> schnuffle, at motel only wireless aval.
[20:03] <theadmin> Guest34690: VLC
[20:03] <sholsapp> k thanks, hold on while i try =)
[20:04] <Guest79018> hola
[20:04] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, well, i activated the driver from "hardware drivers" in ubuntu i got an ati radeon hd 5650 mobile 1gb grapichcard
[20:04] <LjL> Guest34690: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing_Restricted_Formats
[20:04] <Cameron> I have download a gparted live USB and am in the command line because my graphics card is not supported, how do I partition?
[20:04] <Guest79018> hello
[20:04] <micahcavaleri> What is the best tool for overclocking my processor (Pentium M using Lucid Lynx)?
[20:04] <Guest79018> hello
[20:04] <Mister_Argent> 'ello.
[20:04] <LjL> micahcavaleri: your BIOS, if it supports overclocking
[20:04] <AlanBell> Guest79018: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:04] <Guest79018> ola
[20:04] <Guest34690> theadmin,  dont i need some codecs or  packages ?
[20:04] <schnuffle> Raymond_: you can download all the package and install them manually but you'll all the dependencies as well
[20:04] <kim_> Hi folks, is it possible to make shotwell single click at all? I heard you can delete the double click event?
[20:05] <theadmin> Guest34690: VLC plays everything
[20:05] <schnuffle> you'll need
[20:05] <Cameron> Alanbell, can you help please?
[20:05] <micahcavaleri> LjL: my BIOS doesn't support overclocking.  Is there another tool you recommend?
[20:05] <Guest79018> yo hablo en otro idioma
[20:05] <AlanBell> hi Cameron, whats up?
[20:05] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper aren't loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:05] <nancy---> theadmin,  ok
[20:05] <LjL> micahcavaleri: i'm not entirely sure, but i don't think it's possible to overclock the processor from inside an OS
[20:05] <nancy---> LjL,  wont vlc be enough?
[20:05] <Guest79018> idont undertand i spiking english
[20:05] <LjL> nancy---: depends on the needs.
[20:06] <LjL> !es | Guest79018
[20:06] <Guest79018> spanish
[20:06] <Guest79018> ok gracias
[20:06] <Cameron> Alanbell, I'm trying to partition my hdd and I can't use my graphics card on a live USB, I tried to download a live USB version of gparted but the GUI doesn't work, I'm now in the terminal. Any ideas  whatt to do?
[20:06] <nancy---> LjL,  well can you elaborate
[20:07] <kim_> I'm trying to get shotwell to recognise a single click, what does this mean? http://shotwell.3510.www.nabble.com/Shotwell-DingleClick-in-UI-td43860.html
[20:07] <LjL> nancy---: VLC is a specific program, that may or may not be adequate to the user's wants. the actual codecs on that page allow one to use the standard Ubuntu programs (of which VLC is not one) to play stuff.
[20:07] <sholsapp> theadmin: it seems to only be finding kernel headers =/
[20:07] <AlanBell> Cameron: well there is fdisk for messing with partitions from the command line, or you could go through that whole network configuration mess again on the liveUSB to install the ATI drivers on that
[20:07] <theadmin> sholsapp: Oh. Huh. Guess might be a part of such one.
[20:07] <styelz> Cameron: try cfdisk
[20:07] <sKew^_-> Cameron, go on Gparted webpage you will find all the commands there
[20:08] <AlanBell> sKew^_-: he has no GUI
[20:08] <Cameron> Uh ok
[20:08] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper aren't loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:08] <schnuffle> Raymond_: so you need: wget linux-image bzip2
[20:08] <nancy---> theadmin,  i think i will also need kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:08] <sKew^_-> AlanBell, but he got a terminal/comand line so he can read the comands from gparted?
[20:08] <Raymond_> schnuffle, i am using natty
[20:08] <Cameron> Cfdisk brings up something odd but Idk how to use it
[20:09] <theadmin> nancy---: You need either that or VLC, well. VLC is just a player which plays everything. Codecs are for other players to work.
[20:09] <schnuffle> Raymond_: aaah, should have known that before :)
[20:09] <nancy---> theadmin,  ok
[20:09] <nancy---> LjL,  thx
[20:10] <OerHeks> AlanBell, Cameron, is the text-based alternate installer a solution ?
[20:11] <sKew^_-> well i shud just start watching the lagging movie..
[20:12] <gh0zt> Has anyone here had any luck getting the AE2500 wireless drivers to work in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:12] <gh0zt> it is a Cisco USB Wifi adapter.
[20:12] <mile123> sKew^_-: am I right that every film is laggy?
[20:13] <sKew^_-> mile123, yes, i think its somthing with the driver for my grapich card
[20:14] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper aren't loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:16] <chiiiiiz> Hello!!!
[20:17] <chiiiiiz> Help!!!! No sound, with Pulseaudio... I have read all forums, all infos, and nothing works... I need someone on that...
[20:17] <cipher__> Has anyone experienced gtk or other gui rendering issues on 11.10?
[20:17] <fman23> chiiiiiz: install pavucontrol
[20:17] <fman23> chiiiiiz: first so we can diagnose this problem
[20:17] <chiiiiiz> I have a Delta1010LT soundcard (ICE1712)
[20:17] <chiiiiiz> it is installed
[20:18] <sKew^_-> mile123: ati radeon hd 5650 mobile 1gb sorry got DC'd
[20:18] <chiiiiiz> fman23: what info do you need?
[20:18] <fman23> first install pavucontrol and see if the device is muted, on some (few) computers, i have seen that the deevice is muted somehow
[20:18] <selina2> try alsamixer
[20:19] <chiiiiiz> I have installed envy24control, which is THE mixer for ICE1712 based soundcards...
[20:19] <selina2> go to terminal type 'alsamixer' check the controls
[20:20] <fman23> still check pavucontrol
[20:20] <Hexaditidom> I am having problems connecting to the internet. Ubuntu 10.04 recognizes my wireless adapter and can scan for networks, but I can't connect to my own network.
[20:20] <Hexaditidom> It uses WPA, but I uninstalled wpa_supplicant thinking it was a problem. When I try to make the latest wpa_supplicant, it lists a hundred errors. Hopefully I can connect without it.
[20:21] <mile123> sKew^_-: sorry, looks like have no idea.  Btw could you check that vlc is capable to use xv output?
[20:21] <fman23> Hexaditidom: u need wpa_supplicant installed for working with wpa networks
[20:21] <fman23> Hexaditidom: reinstall it with the command sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[20:22] <Hexaditidom> E: Couldn'
[20:22] <Hexaditidom> fman23: It gives "E: Couldn't find package wpa_supplicant"
[20:22] <sKew^_-> mile123, XVideo extention output?
[20:22] <LjL> Hexaditidom: it's wpasupplicant
[20:22] <fman23> mb, use wpa-supplicant
[20:22] <chiiiiiz> fman23: nothing looks wrong with pavucontrol
[20:22] <mile123> sKew^_-: exactly!
[20:23] <Hexaditidom> Now it says "Package wpasupplicant is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[20:23] <Cameron> um
[20:23] <chiiiiiz> alsamixer shows no muted line...
[20:23] <LjL> !info wpasupplicant
[20:23] <fman23> chiiiiiz: go to output devices and tell me which ones are muted if any
[20:23] <ssta> I have synergy between oneiric and windows 7.  It works fine usually, but occasionally, it will decide that it's only going to let the mouse cross monitors in a very small (maybe 30 or 40 pixels wide) gap at the top of the monitor.  Anyone encountered anything like that before?
[20:23] <Cameron> AlanBell: i cant work out a way to do this!
[20:23] <chiiiiiz> but I have no running program that implies sound... I guess I must have mixed things when trying the forums miracle solutions
[20:23] <ssta> oneiric is the server, in7 is the client
[20:24] <mcgrete> FYI: Re FreeNX / NXClient.  Solved - for remote connection, need to use port forwarding as well as modifying sshd_config and ssh_config.
[20:24] <Hexaditidom> Ljl: What do I do with this info?
[20:25] <fman23> Hexaditidom: sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[20:25] <fman23> chiiiiiz: i found this page: http://www.kevinsookocheff.com/2010/09/28/how-to-get-pulse-audio-to-recognize-your-delta-44-and-other-ice1712-cards/
[20:25] <fman23> chiiiiiz: i have to go, hope that fixes ur problem
[20:25] <chiiiiiz> I have only 1 output "analog output", it does not show it as muted
[20:25] <sKew^_-> mile123, it dident run smoother ;P i think i maby shud try to install the new drivers from ATI's webpage
[20:27] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:27] <SimeonK> hi, i did a very stupid thing: i have a dual boot win xp & ubuntu installation. i used grub customizer to set the default option to xp and set it's timeout to 0 seconds. so now i can't boot into ubuntu at all and i need to find a way to change the setting from windows. any ideas?
[20:27] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: i used to get the sound lag, but forget how i solved it.
[20:28] <OerHeks> SimeonK, hold left shift @ boot to enter grubmenu
[20:28] <SimeonK> i'll try thanks
[20:28] <mega2> should i upgrade my server from 10.04 to 11.10 and if so is it easy
[20:28] <vvor> How do I get a {1}bdb.ldif, to replace the {2}bdb.ldif. In /etc/openldap/slapd.d/cn\=config/olcDatabase\=\{2\}bdb  after a re-install of openldap-servers. I did rm /var/lib/ldap/* & /etc/openldap/slapd.d before the re-install. thnxs.
[20:28] <Hexaditidom> sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant gives: "E: Package wpasupplicant has no installation candidate". And as I said, I tried installing the latest version but it gives a hundred errors.
[20:29] <ssta> mega2: I wouldn't upgrade a server between LTSes unless you need to for some reason
[20:29] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, hehe its not a sound problem its problem that the film is laggin, the screen, gets like when you  win98 and try to load a web page whit a 64kbit modem the pic wile loading wassent entatced if you know what iam saing
[20:29] <yeats> !info wpasupplicant
[20:30] <mcgrete> mcgrete - Slight correction.  Port forwarding is all that is needed.  No modification required for ssh_config or sshd_config
[20:30] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: does it happen with all video , or just some
[20:30] <cipher__> themes do not apply correctly: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png (11.10, on fluxbox and openbox)
[20:31] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, whit all videos i got, i cant even start CSS from POL cuz its somthing funky whit that driver :/
[20:32] <Hexaditidom> yeats: I'm sorry, I'm new to this. What do I do with this info? I have tried installing using apt-get and bringing in the latest version, and have run into only errors.
[20:32] <Bragex9> my ubuntu computer wont start up properly.  It says "no init found" What can I do here?
[20:33] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: no ideas i'm afraid
[20:34] <connor_> Can anyone here make a recommendation for relatively inexpensive dedicated hosting?
[20:34] <gr33n7007h> Does ubuntu 11.10 work out of the box with intel HD 3000 graphics
[20:34] <yumbo> gr33n7007h, yes
[20:35] <gr33n7007h> cheers yumbo
[20:35] <TTT_> hi everyone - how to backup your ecryptfs-pass in a way, that I may reinstall ubuntu while keeping my home-directory?
[20:36] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, iam trying to ask in #ATI for help, thx :)
[20:37] <recon69_lap> TTT_ i normally install my home dir in it's own partition and it's all easy after that, but no idea about encryption or how your install was setup
[20:39] <Incarus6> TTT_, please read "man ecryptfs-recover-private"
[20:39] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:40] <Incarus6> !ot | connor_
[20:42] <sKew^_-> maby i shud try to install ATI binary X.org driver?
[20:44] <connor_> lol
[20:44] <connor_> this channel...
[20:44] <Incarus6> sKew^_, a good idea. I also prefer NVIDIAs binary driver instead of nouveau
[20:45] <daev_> anyone here experienced with xorg.conf?
[20:45] <zykotic10> !anyone | daev_
[20:47] <daev_>  I'm using the proprietary ati drivers at the moment and was hoping to use a different refresh rate. at the moment it's only got 60Hz available. However in windows permits higher. what would you suggest if not xorg?:]
[20:48] <zykotic10> daev_: are you using an LCD?  most (but not all) are 60Hz i believe.
[20:48] <Gamblerz> hi everybody
[20:48] <LjL> daev_: you could also use xrandr
[20:48] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:49] <ranger1234> hello im new here and i have a small something on my mind something or nothing and well i was just looking for an expert to chat to and pick thier brains so to speak anyone lol
[20:49] <daev_> it's possible that 60Hz is all it actually supports then? as $ xrandr -q  says it's only 59.9 lol (can it be wrong?)
[20:49] <bazhang> ranger1234, about ubuntu?
[20:49] <Hexaditidom> !info openssl
[20:50] <Aliv3> please don't use bit.ly
[20:50] <Incarus6> daev_, using lcd tv?
[20:51] <DarkRift> anyone know of a good minimum space required for ubuntu desktop ? I need to create a VM and the only thing I'll need to install is firefox and chrome, any idea ? I don't need to have much more space than that maybe a few MB for configs and swap
[20:51] <daev_> yes i am. sorry, using laptop. it supports maximum of 1366x768 (which after long hours is causing eyestrain :[ )
[20:51] <koho56x> hello
[20:52] <koho56x> strange
[20:52] <ranger1234> bazhang are u talking to me its just im new here and findin this chatroom a little awkward to understand lol thanks matie
[20:52] <connor_> Anyone have any ideas as to why a system running Ubuntu would just randomly lock up? I have an i7-950, six gigs of DDR3 ram and a GTX 570  and my computer just randomly freezes. I'll be doing something and then the entire system is unresponsive for a few seconds.
[20:53] <sholsapp> connor_ that happened to me for awhile - turned out it was a bad ram stick - run the memory checker?
[20:53] <Gamblerz> ulannnnn
[20:53] <connor_> sholsapp: I don't have the issue in Windows.
[20:53] <Gamblerz> i installed lion
[20:53] <sholsapp> connor_ neither did i... windows sucked that bad.
[20:54] <heliAAA> which program handles automount of external hdds today in unity (like hal in older versions)
[20:54] <connor_> I don't see how not having freezing issues makes Windows sucks
[20:54] <oscar76> DarkRift: maybe 2 or 3 GB
[20:54] <Gamblerz> and how will i load drivers
[20:54] <connor_> Anyways, I didn't have this issue with other distributions.
[20:54] <martyn_t> Evening ladies and gents.  I have a new TV dual tuner card (USB) which I got working by installing the make/make install the device drivers (don't ask me how!). Anyway, I installed Kaffeine after looking at the forums and I can get the card working (i.e. I can watch TV channels).  Trouble is, it seems every time I reboot I need to rescan all the channels using w_scan then do it again using...
[20:54] <martyn_t> ...the Kaffeine scanner.  Am I doing something wrong? Should the channels be saved? Ta for any advice.
[20:54] <Explodingpiglets> I have a question about dual booting.
[20:55] <Explodingpiglets> Does ubuntu slow the computer down?
[20:55] <sx> q
[20:55] <connor_> Explodingpiglets: not typically
[20:55] <fgf> hi! I need software to emulate hardware.
[20:55] <oscar76> Explodingpiglets: it shouldn't
[20:55] <connor_> fgf: that was so incredibly vague
[20:55] <connor_> My head just exploded
[20:55] <connor_> Cisco Packet Tracer!
[20:56] <fgf> what?
[20:56] <jutnux> fgf: Virtual Box?
[20:56] <fgf> nope
[20:56] <LjL> fgf: what hardware do you want to emulate?
[20:57] <fgf> LjL: Everything
[20:57] <ranger1234> oscar76 r u anygood at this spycology thing i just want to chat to someone about it and its like pulling teeth lol
[20:57] <WoC> fgf, care to elaborate ?
[20:57] <sholsapp> lol
[20:57] <LjL> fgf: uh...
[20:57] <theadmin> fgf: You can't emulate "everything".
[20:57] <DarkRift> haha
[20:57] <daev_> zykotic10, LjL Incarus6, apologies. i may be wasting your time. I am reading further into it and i do not need to consider a refreshrate on my lcd as the cause of my eye strain.
[20:57] <connor_> Anyone?
[20:57] <fgf> i not, but programm can!
[20:57] <DarkRift> ...
[20:58] <LjL> daev_: i agree. LCD refresh rate doesn't cause eye strain, all it does is make the picture update more or less often. these are not CRTs where the picture "flashes"
[20:58] <fgf> hi! I need software to emulate hardware. please
[20:58] <WoC> as long as you have a computer fast enough ;)
[20:58] <LjL> fgf: come on, be serious.
[20:58] <DarkRift> TROLLING
[20:58] <oscar76> ranger1234: ...?
[20:58] <pnorman> !repeat | fgf
[20:58] <sholsapp> trololol
[20:58] <connor_> fgf: I'd like to be able to emulate dual i7-3960x as well but I can't quite do that :p
[20:58] <ssta> fgf: virtualbox?
[20:58] <LjL> fgf: there are various pieces of software that emulate various pieces of hardware. pick one, and we'll tell you if there's an emulator for it. "everything" doesn't apply.
[20:58] <pnorman> connor_: you might be able to emulate it running at 400 MHz :P
[20:58] <randomuser> AlanBell, FYI, http://paste.ubuntu.com/813565/ - X runs by default with -novtswitch?!?!
[20:59] <Hexaditidom> It seems I've broken wpa_supplicant. Is there anyway to roll back changes like install/uninstall to a day or so ago?
[20:59] <daev_> LjL, yes it appears so. The only need for a faster refresh rate with an LCD it appears is for gaming, and other animation intensive applications. For which I do not concern myself with. :]
[20:59] <connor_> I'd love to know why my system randomly freezes.
[20:59] <ranger1234> oscar76 i kinda feel silly chating in the main room dont worry my friend i aint a nutter on the net ur quite safe promise lol
[20:59] <WoC> maybe he has a bunch of cray boxes to run it on ;)
[20:59] <bazhang> !ot | ranger1234
[20:59] <urlin2u> ranger1234, this is ubuntu support not a chat channel, f you need support then ask otherwise your in the wrong channel.
[21:00] <fgf> I want to run the program in a closed jar. It collects data about the computer. I have to replace the data.!
[21:00] <fgf> Help Please!
[21:00] <LjL> fgf: you're making no sense.
[21:00] <ranger1234> urlin2u oh ok i c thank u very much its like a rabbit warrren aint it thanks very much
[21:00] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[21:00] <LjL> fgf: maybe try exposing the problem in a complete fashion.
[21:01] <DarkRift> jar = java, what jar ?
[21:01] <fgf> do not talk nonsense.
[21:01] <urlin2u> ranger1234, there is #ubuntu-offtopic but it has its limitations as well.
[21:01] <Krenair> fgf, you want to make the computer think it has completely different hardware to what it actually wants?
[21:01] <Krenair> to what it actually has*
[21:01] <theadmin> fgf: You are the one talking nonsense here -_- explain what you want
[21:01] <Gamblerz> where is the apple channel
[21:01] <pangolin> ##apple
[21:01] <_Ethan_> hi there, i´d like to know a simple web for learning how to use ubuntu fast, you know commands and so on
[21:02] <Gamblerz> [23:01] ##apple unable to join channel (address is banned)
[21:02] <_Ethan_> any recommended link?
[21:02] <fgf> I have already explained that it is not clear?
[21:02] <connor_> _Ethan_: depends on what youw ant to know
[21:02] <connor_> want*
[21:02] <ikonia> _Ethan_: https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:02] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Try http://ubuntu-manual.org although it's already out-of-date
[21:02] <_Ethan_> umm, nice!
[21:02] <urlin2u> _Ethan_,  you have any linux exsperience?
[21:02] <WoC> I have some packages which are left in limbo, it seems... listed as not upgraded, i presume those are pending upgrades or configure or something along that line... being new to apt, what should i use to address those packages ?
[21:03] <_Ethan_> connor_ just to be learning simple stuff at the same time i am working in my things :D
[21:03] <theadmin> WoC: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:03] <WoC> theadmin - k, ty, i think i tried that but i try again
[21:04] <connor_> _Ethan_: basic terminal commands?
[21:05] <WoC> theadmin, thanks, now that worked... could have sworn i tried that already
[21:05] <Success> Hey I want a good vnc server/client that works on ubuntu, i use gnome3 and kde also so it'd be nice if it works on all
[21:05] <theadmin> WoC: Might have tried just "upgrade".
[21:05] <ikonia> any vnc server/client will be fine then
[21:06] <nubuntu> hi anybody there?
[21:06] <WoC> theadmin, could be :)
[21:06] <theadmin> nubuntu: Many people.
[21:07] <nubuntu> someone speak spanish
[21:07] <ikonia> !es | nubuntu
[21:07] <nubuntu> gracias
[21:08] <oscar76> nubuntu: yo, pero no sé si pueda ayudarte
[21:12] <WoC> theadmin, can you remind me how to dist-upgrade to precise ? - i have one box running precise, but i would like to upgrade another one too and i forgot how to
[21:12] <theadmin> WoC: You need to be running Oneiric for that. Also, Precise is not supported here.
[21:12] <WoC> I am
[21:12] <theadmin> WoC: Well, visit #ubuntu+1. If I recall correctly, the command is "update-manager -d"
[21:13] <Tiraspol> If anyone ever needs any Carfax or AutoCheck reports lemme know, I got unlimited access.
[21:13] <WoC> I understand, being a developer version
[21:13] <zykotic10> WoC: dist-upgrade means upgrade all packages (same as full-upgrade), it doesn't have anything to do with upgrading to a new version.
[21:13] <WoC> k
[21:13] <WoC> thanks
[21:16] <ssta> historically iy's because it's how upgrading between Debian versions was done using apt.  dist-upgrade is more aggressive about dependencies
[21:16] <theadmin> ssta, zykotic10, WoC: To be precise, "upgrade" just performs upgrades, and "dist-upgrade" installs new dependencies, if any are there.
[21:17] <WoC> ok, thanks
[21:17] <ssta> theadmin: dist-upgrade will also remove packages.
[21:17] <theadmin> ssta: True dat
[21:18] <WoC> is there a non gui version of update-manager ?
[21:18] <ssta> dependency resolution is not a trivial thing.
[21:18] <theadmin> WoC: You want "do-release-upgrade"?
[21:18] <ssta> WoC: basically apt-get and aptitude and both non-gui versions
[21:18] <WoC> ok, thanks
[21:19] <lordjj> How do I check my audio driver?
[21:20] <Forex_Trader> hey
[21:24] <kn100-resolute> I am using the nvidia drivers and my monitors are the wrong resolution. I have an edid readout from windows, how can I apply it in ubuntu
[21:25] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: how did you install the nvidia drivers ?
[21:27] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: I just used the inbuilt restricted drivers thing built into ubuntu
[21:28] <kn100-resolute> I'm pretty sure it's to do with the dvi to vga adaptors I'm using
[21:28] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: thats good, have you rebooted after enabling them ?
[21:28] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: yep
[21:28] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: ok, so now use the tool nvida-settings to create an xorg config
[21:29] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: I'm not currently booted into Ubuntu, will you be here in twenty minutes or so?
[21:29] <JohnLemon> Imagine all the CITRUSSSSSSSSS....
[21:29] <lordjj> How do I check my audio driver?
[21:29] <guntbert> what is the apt-get equivalent of aptitude safe-upgrade?
[21:29] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: should be
[21:29] <ikonia> JohnLemon: mess around elsewhere
[21:29] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: Okay, I'll be back as soon as It's installed and booted up (I managed to bork my previous install xD)
[21:30] <ubuntuaddicted> guntbert, i believe it's just sudo apt-get upgrade isn't it?
[21:31] <zykotic10> guntbert: it doesn't exist :(
[21:31] <zykotic10> guntbert: one of the reasons, aptitude is superior
[21:31] <pocho22> ciao
[21:32] <ubuntuaddicted> guntbert, but I suppose it matters what your pref's are within /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[21:32] <guntbert> zykotic10: thx, was afraid of that - but there is a problem with aptitude - it doesn't recognize multi-arch
[21:32] <ubuntuaddicted> guntbert, what's your exact issue if you don't mind me asking?
[21:32] <guntbert> ubuntuaddicted: see ^^ please
[21:34] <guntbert> ubuntuaddicted: precisely spoken: I used to use aptitude but recently learned that it is problematic on multi-arched systems
[21:34] <ubuntuaddicted> you want aptitude to be able to download apps for multi-arch systems?
[21:35] <ubuntuaddicted> within VM's or Dual-Boot setups? sort of confused but it doesn't matter. good luck if you're getting help already
[21:35] <guntbert> ubuntuaddicted: thx :)
[21:35] <gbear14275> Hello, I recently uninstalled all my browsers and reinstalled chrome.  I'm trying to use Pandora but it keeps asking for flash.  I thought chrome had flash built in?  Is this not the case on linux?
[21:35] <ikonia> what does it matter if it's dual boot or a vm ?
[21:35] <steelbox> hi there!
[21:35] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, I would just suggest trying the flash helper app, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:36] <xangua> gbear14275: chromium does not, are you sure you are using Google Chrome, not Chromium¿¿
[21:36] <gbear14275> 11.10 ubuntuaddicted
[21:36] <xangua> gbear14275: you can also install flash from repositories
[21:36] <steelbox> is there a good alternative to megavideo?
[21:36] <Zainka> hola from cold up north. Some activity here i see but I dear to ask for some advice regarding xubunut and very low colore dept.
[21:36] <gbear14275> xangua, yes, I have both chromium and chrome.  Trying to use chrome
[21:36] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, it doesn't.
[21:36] <cipher__> There is a bug when opening gnome-terminal, the menu-bar opens with about a second of latency, and it also opens despite explicitly telling it not to with the radio button.
[21:36] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, ok, 1 second
[21:36] <cipher__> "Do not open"
[21:37] <gbear14275> xangua, Haven't got to that step yet.  was wanting to try out the integrated flash in chrome... but it doesn't seem to be working
[21:37] <Zainka> I have no idea on how to set the colore dept to an higher resolution. It seems to be stucked at 16bit dept
[21:37] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, and you've tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:38] <steelbox> does anybody knows a good alternative to megavideo?
[21:38] <xangua> steelbox: do you have an ubuntu related question¿
[21:38] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, I don't want to install flash yet.  Was hoping to use the pepper-flash integrated into chrome... but it doesn't seem to be there
[21:38] <ikonia> steelbox: not really an ubuntu issue
[21:39] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, have you tried the BETA of chrome?
[21:39] <steelbox> ikonia: I know that but I do not know any channel for that
[21:39] <steelbox> which one?
[21:39] <ikonia> steelbox: sorry, not here though
[21:39] <steelbox> xangua: any idea?
[21:39] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, I just downloaded the latest .deb from the chrome page
[21:40] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, there's a stable and a beta version. at least last time i used it
[21:40] <ikonia> steelbox: not in this channel please.
[21:40] <lordjj> How do I check my audio driver?
[21:41] <Zainka> How can I adjust colore dept os display in xubuntu 1104. It is very low here and images looks like old 256 colored images
[21:41] <SockPants> hi all
[21:41] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, ok, not sure.  Here is reference to what I'm talking about: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
[21:42] <SockPants> where can i find which interface numbers are which network controllers? i have 3 network controllers listed in 'lspci' but don't know which 'eth' numbers belong to them
[21:42] <nerilex> hi people,
[21:42] <zykotic10> lordjj: if you want to see what driver is currently being used, one method would be to run "lspci -vnvn" then find the "Audio device" section and "Kernel driver in use:"
[21:42] <nerilex> I've two problems with an ubuntu installation
[21:43] <Zainka> problem is?
[21:43] <nerilex> pkexec asks for the password of a different user then the one locked in
[21:43] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, i am using LTS still so I can't really help for sure. My VM of 11.10 had to get taken down, needed the HDD space. :-)
[21:44] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, no problem.  Thanks for trying... not sure if I messed up an install or what
[21:44] <nerilex> and some tools seam to be unable to map the uid to an user name
[21:44] <gbear14275> Is anyone here using built in flash with chrome?
[21:44] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, it's pretty hard to mess up to install. i am sure you did it fine.
[21:45] <Zainka> nerilex: ooh. root pwd maybe?
[21:45] <zykotic10> gbear14275: why use a closed source program, when chromium gets the new features first?  well, good luck.
[21:45] <nerilex> zainka, nope
[21:46] <nerilex> zanika, there are two users on the sys, b & z
[21:46] <nerilex> b was created first
[21:46] <gbear14275> zykotic10, Not the question but was hoping to test out the built in vs the open source version.  Trying to troubleshoot a condition where flash settings are unclickable.  As I mentioned... I have both chromium and Chrome
[21:46] <nerilex> but z is asked for b's passphrase
[21:47] <gbear14275> zykotic10, that answer your question?
[21:47] <Zainka> nerilex: pkexec allows an authorized user to execute PROGRAM as another user. If        username is not specified, then the program will be executed as the        administrative super user, root.
[21:47] <zykotic10> gbear14275: what version of ubuntu are you using?  that flash non-clickable was an old issue, has it resurfaced?
[21:48] <dagerik> Id the crontab: 01 16 * * 5  each friday at 16:01 ?
[21:48] <dagerik> *is
[21:48] <zykotic10> gbear14275: are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[21:48] <gbear14275> zykotic10, I'm using 11.10, ran into it using chromium beta releases
[21:48] <gbear14275> zykotic10, yes, 64bit
[21:48] <nerilex> zainka, that's what the manpage says, but there is no option to specify who's password should be used
[21:49] <zykotic10> gbear14275: the OLD issue was due to the wrapper using 32bit flash.  shouldn't be an issue now with native 64bit flash.  good luck.
[21:49] <nerilex> zainka, the problem occurs because ubuntu-software-center, synaptic and more tools use pkexec to get executed with root privileges
[21:50] <gbear14275> zykotic10, Maybe you can help with this.  I noticed in software center that there were two options for installing flash -
[21:50] <Zainka> nerilex: I know, it was easier to snip it from there :) OK, I ll try something here
[21:50] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, have you checked out this helpful site for things to do after installing 11.10? http://smashingweb.ge6.org/things-to-do-after-install-ubuntu-11-10-for-perfect-desktop/
[21:51] <Slart> gbear14275: does chromium come with the built-in-flash thingy? I just tested in a vm and chromium doesn't show any flash based stuff with just the default install
[21:52] <Guest81966> hi, one question, what is the most common doubt asked here about ubuntu??
[21:52] <gbear14275> First "Adobe Flash plugin" desc - "Installer for the Adobe Flash plugin for Mozilla", second "Adobe Flash Plugin 10" desc - "Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11"  Which should I select?
[21:52] <zykotic10> Slart: chromium doesn't come with flash, no.
[21:52] <gbear14275> Slart, no chromium requires a seperate flash installation
[21:52] <Ronis_BR> hi all, is anyone using dell inspiron n4050 laptop?
[21:52] <zykotic10> gbear14275: it's version 11 that has native 64bit support.
[21:52] <Guest81966> i have a blog, and I'd like to explain the most common questions about this O.S.
[21:52] <Zainka> nerilex: pkexec should ask for the password when invoked in a window. However, I have heard there have been some issues in 11.10 version, but i run xubuntu 11.04 for the moment
[21:53] <Slart> Guest81966: most common question.. "Can I ask any question in here?", answer "No, just user end user support for ubuntu"
[21:53] <carty-server> hello room
[21:53] <Slart> =)
[21:53] <armor-64> hi i want to install utf-8 greek (language)i have ubuntu 11.10 eng and the subs for the videos shows up like Chinese,any commands to terminal or somthink to do this???
[21:53] <gbear14275> zykotic10, so that is my question... use the one with no version stated, OR use the one with "10" in the title and "11" in the description
[21:53] <[deXter]> Guest81966, The most common question is "how to change my nickname here?"
[21:53] <Guest81966> XD
[21:53] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, i run the beta on my old gateway laptop and have no isses with it
[21:53] <zykotic10> gbear14275: try the Flash11 version
[21:54] <htmlinprogress> what the difference (amd ) from an an apu to a cpu?
[21:54] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, 32 bit LTS 10.04.3
[21:54] <gbear14275> zykotic10, the one with "11" in the description?
[21:54] <zykotic10> gbear14275: yes
[21:54] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, APU includes the GPU as well; also this question belongs in ##hardware
[21:55] <zykotic10> gbear14275: also verify you haven't added any other versions, gnash etc. more then one flash and you'll run into issues
[21:55] <gbear14275> zykotic10, ok.  and just to clarify you aren't able to help diagnose the lack of flash in the Chome .deb for 64bit correct?
[21:55] <ubuntuaddicted> htmlinprogress, it means it has more then just cpu, it has gfx built in as well. I think. lol
[21:55] <zykotic10> gbear14275: that's propritary software, i have no interest sorry.
[21:55] <gbear14275> zykotic10, I uninstalled everything I could find related to browsers, flash and everything else to try and start fresh
[21:56] <htmlinprogress> this the preamble to if i get an apu  will ubuntu support ,if not when?
[21:56] <zykotic10> gbear14275: good plan.
[21:56] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, it already has good support since kernel 2.6.39
[21:56] <DarkRift> is there any way to open a console on the "preparing to install ubuntu" screen ?
[21:56] <carty-server> Before Ubuntu 11.10 I used to be able to check some boxes in my remote connection settings window and it set it up for connection. This no longer happens. How do I get that back?
[21:56] <DarkRift> it says I'm not connected to the internet which I want to validate
[21:56] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, which means the current Ubuntu 11.10 works well with APUs
[21:57] <ubuntuaddicted> Darkfrost, ifconfig
[21:57] <gbear14275> zykotic10, You don't happen to know why there are two entries for flash in the software center do you?
[21:57] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, do you have a valid IP?
[21:57] <DarkRift> ubuntuaddicted, I know that, problem is I don't have a console
[21:57] <DarkRift> to validate that
[21:57] <zykotic10> gbear14275: one is the debian upstream version, the other is ubuntu specific (i believe)
[21:57] <nerilex> zainka, yeah, the problem happens on an 11.10 box under gnome3
[21:57] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, which ubuntu are you using?
[21:57] <DarkRift> I want to open a console in the installation process
[21:58] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  then how well ? and how effective /utilized so i can use it in games and app that use it
[21:58] <gbear14275> zykotic10, ok thanks for your help.  I'll give it a try
[21:59] <Raymond_> what are the dependencies for python urid
[21:59] <Raymond_> urwid
[21:59] <Zainka> nerilex:  I am no expert so i have decided to wait a while before using gnome3. I guess therel be troubles so I stick with good ol'l   X for as long as it suits my needs. Sorry I cant help.
[21:59] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, pretty decent. with the open-source drivers most 3D apps and simple or old games work fine (eg; Oblivion). Newer games will be slow though (eg: Skyrim). However you could install the restricted drivers if you want full acceleration, but I wouldn't recommend this *unless* you are getting really bad FPS in new games..
[22:00] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, if it doesn't work during install, that most likely means the module (driver) for your ethernet card OR wifi is not built into the kernel
[22:00] <htmlinprogress> [deXter], your telling me to go to #hardware and talk about linux when they will say the same..
[22:00] <ubuntuaddicted> htmlinprogress, i think he is merely trying to keep the room on topic. it's a very fast paced room. :-)
[22:00] <Pancakez> If I want to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10, all I need to do is make sure all my packages are up to date, then run "sudo do-release-upgrade" correct?
[22:01] <phong_> in ubuntu, is there a way to set all folders to view as 'list' mode?
[22:01] <AlanBell> yes Pancakez
[22:01] <phong_> i hate everytime it open as icon mode
[22:01] <DarkRift> ubuntuaddicted, I have an address, the "connection information" says so and the gateway is valid, only there is an X stating that I'm not connected to the internet, which is wrong, because all my other vm's work fine with the same configurations
[22:01] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, yes, open nautilus and under edit, preferences
[22:01] <NORMALNY_FACET> ?
[22:01] <Pancakez> AlanBell: ok, thanks
[22:01] <nerilex> zainka, thanks for trying
[22:01] <chorizo> d
[22:01] <ikonia> !upgrade > Pancakez
[22:01] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, huh, weird. are you're possitive there is nothing different in the VM settings?
[22:01] <DarkRift> absolutely
[22:01] <gbear14275> zykotic10, after install and browser reboot, still not recognized.  Shouldn't require a machine restart should it?
[22:02] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, you're sure your DHCP server has additional addresses to give out?
[22:02] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, i have not a clue
[22:02] <ikonia> Pancakez: check the pm ubottu just sent you, could bit of pre-upgrade reading that may answer a lot of questions going forward
[22:02] <gbear14275> software center says it's installed
[22:02] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, show me hwo to do it?
[22:02] <DarkRift> affirmative, I have a valid ip as I said
[22:02] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  wel i am thinkin about buyin it a apu based pc with linux  to sell  ,so i MUST ask somewhere... is there a link or something?
[22:02] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, which version of ubuntu?
[22:02] <Pancakez> ikonia, thanks for the links
[22:02] <phong_> 11.10
[22:02] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, Link for what exactly?
[22:02] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, on the left, click on the folder icon which should open nautilus
[22:03] <DarkRift> finally got passed that screen ... dunno how tho
[22:03] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, cool
[22:03] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, sorry man, i have classic view mode
[22:03] <fernando_> Hi, I'm new in ubuntu... how can I add gnome-panel to the autostart applications?
[22:03] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, tell me in command mode
[22:03] <fernando_> ubuntu 11.10
[22:03] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  does it work in 10.04 and 10.10?
[22:03] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, type in nautilus in your cli
[22:03] <phong_> ok
[22:04] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, now, in the Edit pulldown, you should see something that says Preferences
[22:04] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, Not really..  it will install but you wont get any graphics acceleration
[22:04] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  apu stuff i guess
[22:04] <htmlinprogress> graphics acceleration? means?
[22:04] <gbear14275> zykotic10, looks like that install tried to install the 32bit version.
[22:04] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, the first tab should be Views. change that to List View
[22:04] <phong_> got it
[22:04] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, thanks
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> htmlinprogress, like being able to use google earth and 3d direct rendering
[22:05] <phong_> why is it call nauti?
[22:05] <phong_> lol
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, nautilus is the default gnome file manager
[22:05] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, it really doesn't make any sense by calling 'nautilus'
[22:05] <zykotic10> gbear14275: sorry i don't have an answer for that...  silly ubuntu ;)
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, :-)
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, gotta run. take care
[22:05] <phong_> okie thanks
[22:05] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, Meaning which 3D applications will be rendered by the CPU instead of the GPU component, so you won't be able to play 3D games because it'll be really slow (infact they might even just crash)
[22:06] <ubuntuaddicted> take care everyone. ubuntuforums.org is a plaec to get help IF you can't stick around in IRC. I am dannyboy79 over there
[22:06] <Nano> I'm trying to compile something with g++ and I'm getting "error: cast from 'unit_head*' to 'uintptr {aka unsigned int}' loses precision [-fpermissive]" is there a specific place to append this -fpermissive flag, or should I just fix the code?
[22:06] <zykotic10> gbear14275: if you do have 32bit ubuntu, try searching the net for the fix for clicking not working... it must still be out there, somewhere.
[22:06] <[deXter]> Cya ubuntuaddicted .. why don't you just use the same nickname here? :P
[22:06] <rebecca43> help how do I get /dev/sda1 visible from root partition of /proc ?
[22:06] <zykotic10> gbear14275: s/32bit ubuntu/32bit flash/
[22:06] <ikonia> Nano: ##c++ or #gcc
[22:07] <ikonia> rebecca43: root partition of /proc ??
[22:07] <Nano> Thanks, I'll check there
[22:07] <rebecca43> ikonia: yeah I think my ssh client is trojaned
[22:07] <ikonia> rebecca43: what are you talking about ?? you are not making sense
[22:07] <[deXter]> ^
[22:07] <dagerik> Suggestion for a CLI program for running a sound file in a loop?
[22:07] <zykotic10> gbear14275: one version http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/11/i-cannot-click-on-flash-in-ubuntu.html
[22:07] <[deXter]> dagerik, mplayer
[22:08] <rebecca43> ikonia: well when I type cat /dev/urand | telnet fbi.gov 80 I get an error
[22:08] <zykotic10> dagerik: "mplayer -loop 0 foo"
[22:08] <ikonia> rebecca43: don't be silly in here please. Play elsewhere
[22:08] <dagerik> zykotic10: Ah nice, how can I also mute the sound?
[22:08] <rebecca43> ikonia: penis
[22:08] <zykotic10> dagerik: "mplayer -loop 0 -ao null foo"
[22:08] <phong_> does anyone know how to make a shortcut to a folder and place it on desktop?
[22:09] <phong_> this way i dont have to browser thru deep folder and subfolders
[22:09] <dagerik> zykotic10: The reason I want this peculiar function is because this removes an annoying high pitch sound which my computer makes when I am not playing sound
[22:09] <phong_> anyone?
[22:09] <zykotic10> phong_: cd ~/Desktop && ln -s /path/to/file
[22:09] <phong_> zykotic10, thru command line?
[22:10] <zykotic10> phong_: the direction i just gave is cli yes, i'm sure there is a gui method (i just don't know it)
[22:11] <zykotic10> phong_: the && separates the two commands, don't use && just run the two separate commands
[22:11] <mikePfeiffer1827> help?. How can I move icons around on the launcher and also view hidden files and folders in my Home Folder?
[22:12] <zykotic10> mikePfeiffer1827: ctrl+h in nautilus should show hidden files.
[22:12] <gbear14275> zykotic10, just found this for those who might ask in the future: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=72dcc29296d64aa9&hl=en
[22:12] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, ok
[22:12] <phong_> zykotic10, it works now
[22:13] <phong_> zykotic10, u're smart..best of the best
[22:13] <Zell84> Hey guys. Absolute noob here just getting my feet wet. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my mac via usb drive. I've ran all of the terminal commands until it wants to send the iso file to my ext hard rive. Every time I do my hard drive fails to read and I have to reformat it. Any help would be appreciated
[22:13] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, Thanks for the help there. Is there a way of re-arranging icons on the launcher without having to remove them all and reorder again?
[22:13] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, heh you get the ms to boot?
[22:13] <gbear14275> thanks to all who helped.  Chrome has a bug with the bundled flash supposedly...
[22:13] <sennin> j #canal
[22:13] <zykotic10> mikePfeiffer1827: no idea sorry.
[22:13] <sennin> hello
[22:14] <sennin> anonymous atack ?
[22:14] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, ok. Thanks for the help. I'll remove them all and then re-order. Thanks for the help.
[22:14] <LjL> sennin: ... is offtopic for this channel
[22:15] <sennin> what channel is?
[22:15] <Chaorain> Hey, I'm trying to install a windows wireless driver on Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit. I got NDIS installed but what version of the driver do I go with? Win7 64 bit?
[22:15] <LjL> sennin: i don't know. generally freenode doesn't partake in illegal activities.
[22:15] <sennin> you have scared
[22:15] <sennin> loser
[22:16] <Pimo> hi all
[22:16] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, I am new to Ubuntu, is there a way of running executables on the OS?
[22:17] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: "executables"?
[22:17] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: of course there is a way of running Linux programs, if that's what you mean...
[22:17] <damselfly9> WINE
[22:17] <rcmaehl> How do I make a GUI based program for Ubuntu? I mean are there any EASY programming languages (similar to Autoit perferably or something that allows for both GUI creation and Desktop/Program Automation that has a BASIC like syntax?) for Ubuntu?
[22:17] <Guinness2702> Hi,  Anybody know how to get "cal" to start the week on Monday?  The '-m" option seems to have been removed at some point.  There's some stuff on teh interwebz about setting locale and first-weekday, but I have those set correctly it appears
[22:17] <mikePfeiffer1827> .exe files. I have installed Ubuntu and left windows
[22:17] <LjL> rcmaehl: "gambas" is one
[22:18] <mikePfeiffer1827> LjL, I mean .exe files from Windows
[22:18] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: .exe files are Windows programs. you cannot run them in Linux, unless you use emulation software like WINE, which can run some of them.
[22:18] <LjL> !wine > mikePfeiffer1827
[22:18] <s> !topic
[22:18] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: you are normally better off finding alternatives than trying to run windows programs under wine
[22:18] <rcmaehl> AlanBell: I'm working on that though
[22:18] <Guest41047> you work to the gov
[22:19] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, if you have a Windows licence, you could try running virtualbox (missed the start of this, but am assuming you want to run windows apps under ubuntu)
[22:19] <Pimo> hello, i have a big issue with the last version of ubuntu, after the upgrade i've notified that my pc at first start shutsdown alone.. and after 1 or 2 reboots it will work fine without problems for days... but if i shutdown for example during the night and i start it on the next monday it shoutsdown again...
[22:19] <Pimo>  everyday the same thing, why? my pc is a acer aspire 5720, is it a notified issue?? what can i do? i've tried also to format and install xubuntu
[22:19] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, I see now that .exe from Windows are unable to
[22:19] <LjL> Guest41047: this channel is about Ubuntu support. do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:19] <AlanBell> rcmaehl: python is a nice language, and can work with the glade user interface designer
[22:19] <nancy-->  i have one website but many types of projects. eg. blog , webhosting services, software selling and development     .          i was thinking ,instead of 3 different sites, to make just one website and at sub domains for each. like  soft.mysite.com , blog.mysite.com  etc . good idea for  SEO and users , marketing , etc  any comments ?
[22:19] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: install wine and they will probably mostly run, but what is it you are trying to run?
[22:19] <zykotic10> !wine | mikePfeiffer1827
[22:20] <bazhang> nancy--, thats not an ubuntu support  question
[22:20] <damselfly9> <mikePfeiffer1827: is there any chance your computer could handle multi-boot?
[22:20] <Slart> nancy--: ubuntu can do it, no problems.. the rest is offtopic in here
[22:20] <AlanBell> nancy--: sure, go for it
[22:20] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, sorry unable to run windows exe files nativley from default, however is there a way to allow it to run nativley?
[22:20] <zykotic10> mikePfeiffer1827: in the long run - you're better to find gnu/linux replacements for your windows programs.  wine should only be a transitional tool.
[22:21] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, The computer is old and Windows XP is unable to boot
[22:21] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: if you install wine then .exe files will run as if they were native, as everyone is saying
[22:21] <scientes_> is there any way I can stop writes to my disk, and copy it to another drive, without having to boot from a CD?
[22:21] <AlanBell> nancy--: please keep it in the channel, but that isn't really an ubuntu relevant question
[22:21] <nancy--> Slart,  AlanBell  where can we talk about it. (this is ubuntu only)
[22:22] <mikePfeiffer1827> Yes, I see. Thankyou. Ubuntu is installed alongside Ubuntu, however I am unable to boot Windows (XP)
[22:22] <LjL> nancy--: you're already talking about it in #ubuntu-offtopic - seems appropriate to me
[22:22] <Slart> nancy--: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:22] <nancy--> oh..ok
[22:23] <Guinness2702> scientes_, if you re-mounted your filesystem(s) as read-only, that would stop disk writes (I don't know enough about this though, your system might become unstable - maybe not, but I don't know enough for sure)
[22:23] <MrBolzofstil> Hi, got a little question, do you know why my shortcul maj(left)+ctrl+T doesn't work but my shortcut maj(right)+ctrl+T works in a terminal??? Thanks
[22:23]  * nancy-- invites Slart  to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:23] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, I have tried many solutions and scripts from the community here and ended up having to use the Ubuntu boot disk to reinstall Ubuntu.
[22:24] <ikonia> nancy--: he already knows about the channel as he told you to use it, please stop
[22:24] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, Previous post was related to booting of XP
[22:24] <MrBolzofstil> Hi, got a little question, do you know why my shortcul maj(left)+ctrl+T doesn't work but my shortcut maj(right)+ctrl+T works in a terminal??? Thanks
[22:25] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: dunno if I missed it, but what is it you want to do exactly?
[22:25] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, This computer is old. It has 1GB of ram and a 3GHz pentium 4 processor. It would not have the ram to be able to Dual boot XP and Ubuntu
[22:26] <Guinness2702> 1GB is plenty for XP
[22:26] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: uh? dual booting has nothing to do with RAM
[22:26] <warfaren> what? dual boot does notmean youre running the systems at the same time
[22:26] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, Dual boot = running one OS or the other - not at the same time
[22:27] <warfaren> it just means theyre both installed and you get to choose which ever when you start your pc
[22:27] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, Sorry, I have been trying to boot XP after installing Ubuntu as I have games and programs on XP that I would like to continue to play. XP is unable to boot
[22:28] <damselfly9> which bootloader did you install?
[22:28] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, that is nothing to do with ubuntu - if you have dual boot set up you should be able to run XP
[22:28] <mikePfeiffer1827> Guiness2702, I thought by dual boot, you meant booting both at the same time. I have both OS installed but cannot boot XP
[22:28] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, no, dual boot means running one OR the other
[22:28] <LjL> Guinness2702: that it is "nothing to do with Ubuntu" might be an overstatement, it could well be a problem with GRUB
[22:28] <mikePfeiffer1827> All I get is a blank screen
[22:28] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, you want to run one inside the other
[22:29] <urlin2u> LjL, he posted a bootscript yesterday all looked good.
[22:29] <Guinness2702> LjL, yeah, and he could have screwed up his partitions too, but dual booting (when set up correctly) should not in and of itself prevent XP from running
[22:29] <mikePfeiffer1827> Guiness2702, No, I would like to run one or the other. There are just some programs that are only available to run in XP
[22:29] <mikePfeiffer1827> or Windows, sorry
[22:30] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: have you already tried running "sudo update-grub"? though urlin2u tells me you posted your GRUB data before and they were ok
[22:30] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: edit /etc/default/grub and comment out one of the rows to make grub visible (cant remember which one, i think maybe hidden timeout) and run sudo grub-update to apply the config
[22:30] <warfaren> oops
[22:30] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, you still have the bootscript results.txt?
[22:30] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: sudo update-grub it is, my bad
[22:31] <Detergentizer> Hi...
[22:31] <Detergentizer>  deleted b partitions but now I can not boot windows 7
[22:31] <LjL> Detergentizer: you deleted what partitions?
[22:31] <bazhang> Detergentizer, try ##windows
[22:31] <Detergentizer> when i boot it goes to grub rescue instead ... is there a way to fix?
[22:31] <Detergentizer> I removd ubunt partitions
[22:31] <urlin2u> LjL,  could have missed something though, you never know.
[22:31] <mikePfeiffer1827> LjL, yes, ran the boot script and all. I do not have the boot script as after following urlin2u's instructions nothing was able to boot. So I put the boot disk in for Ubuntu and erased and reinstalled
[22:31] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: also be informed that there is something called "wine" that lets you run windows programs on ubuntu
[22:32] <LjL> Detergentizer: you need the Windows install CD to restore the Windows loader, ##windows should be able to help you with the process
[22:32] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, you could of just reloaded grub.,
[22:32] <mikePfeiffer1827> warfaren, I got that one before
[22:32] <warfaren> ok
[22:32] <Detergentizer> the cdrom stopped working :(
[22:33] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, I don't know much about reloading grub.
[22:33] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: it gets better with every update. some programs require a little tweaking to run well though, but most work out of the box
[22:34] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, you didn't need to reinstall I only told you how to load the ms boot to the mbr, grub can be reloaded easily, but I understand if you didn't kno how.
[22:34] <mikePfeiffer1827> warfaren, Ill install wine later, after I know I can boot XP
[22:34] <monx> why does cat'ing stuff into /dev/audio not do anything?
[22:35] <totti> wiiiiiiiiiiiii canal de age of empires
[22:35] <totti> ???
[22:35] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, I followed your instructions posted yesterday and is said windows sucessfully recovered
[22:35] <Guinness2702> monx, what is /dev/audio?
[22:35] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, however i restarted and got a blank screen
[22:35] <warfaren> myself, i tried yesterday to boot an ubuntu 10.04 live cd and installed wine. mounted the windows partition that i had and started jedi knight 2 that was on the hdd. i was so amazed to see that it was running at 100% on the highest settings and i was just using the default graphics drivers that the live environment autoloads!
[22:35] <Guinness2702> monx, I don't even have a /dev/audio on my system
[22:35] <LjL> totti: i don't see any. but ask in #freenode
[22:36] <Raymond_> where would i find older packages of python
[22:36] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, nothing booted, so I reinstalled Ubuntu
[22:36] <Raymond_> below 2.7
[22:36] <warfaren> now its an old game but so is that computer
[22:36] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, did you see a GRUB menu, or did it go straight to a blank screen?
[22:36] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, still wouldn't boot though, bummer. There are  great helpers for this on the ##windows channel i would try there for the XP booting.
[22:37] <damselfly9> mikePfeiffer1827: you might need to do "repair mode" with your windows cd
[22:37] <monx> Guiness2702, just noticed I don't either. guess that answers my question haha
[22:37] <monx> thanks
[22:37] <fil> hello guys... 2questions... after an apt-get update i have : The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic transmission transmission-cli transmission-common transmission-gtk.. i added a ppa for transmission ;cause of problems i had.. 1) how can i install just the trasmission files? 2) do you think dist-upgrade safe option ??
[22:37] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, There was the Bios Scan and then a blank/black screen
[22:37] <Guinness2702> monx, lol, it's easy to assume
[22:37] <zykotic10> fil: dist-upgrade will update to the new kernel - not sure about your transmission PPA issue.
[22:37] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, I will try ##windows channel
[22:38] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, with the ms boot loaded?
[22:38] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, did repair yesterday and everything went
[22:38] <fil> zykotic: do u know how can i install just the trasmission files, but not update kernel?
[22:38] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: if you cant set it up for dual boot with grub, theres always easybcd for windows that will let you edit the windows bootloader to load ubuntu :)
[22:38] <zykotic10> !tab > fil
[22:38] <zykotic10> fil: no idea sorry
[22:39] <damselfly9> mikePfeiffer1827: if grub doesn't work, maybe lilo?
[22:39] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, you mean with the boot CD in? I took out the CD after the repair finished and restarted
[22:39] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: but you need to get xp booting somehow first, forexample by repairing with the cd
[22:39] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, I don't know much about boot systems
[22:39] <zykotic10> fil: would/does "sudo apt-get install transmission" work?
[22:40] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, no after you ran the fixmbr.
[22:40] <fil> zykotic10, for some reason no...
[22:40] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, after I ran fixmbr, I ran fixboot C:
[22:41] <jd_user_23234> Hello!
[22:41] <fil> zykotic10, thanx anyway...
[22:41] <zykotic10> fil: are you using transmission-gtk as package name?
[22:42] <zykotic10> fil: never mind, transmission is a package name as well
[22:42] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, did you notice that was a secondary command and the fixmbr alone generally works.
[22:42] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: you did that and its still booting into ubuntu?
[22:43] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, no I did not realise
[22:43] <mikePfeiffer1827> warfaren, I reinstalled Ubuntu
[22:43] <xzenx> hello, when using ubuntu software center what is the package i need to use certain proprietary media types?
[22:43] <Cocorico> Hi, how do i install the sun jre in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:44] <zykotic10> Cocorico: from now on, you need to manually download java from oracle directly
[22:44] <xangua> Cocorico: you can manually download it and install it from the java web
[22:44] <LjL> xzenx: probably ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:44] <OerHeks> xzenx, restricted-extra's
[22:44] <Cocorico> ok, thanks
[22:44] <xzenx> thank you
[22:44] <xangua> Cocorico: you can also install Open JDK from repositorioes
[22:44] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, cool yeah if XP worked before it is probably fixable but you need a windows pro.
[22:44] <LjL> Cocorico: otherwise you can always, in most cases, use OpenJDK
[22:44] <Cocorico> nah, i need the sun version here
[22:44] <Cocorico> i'll download, thanks
[22:44] <dagerik> Cocorico: what do you need the sun version for?
[22:44] <LjL> !java > Cocorico this has the procedure
[22:45] <Guinness2702> xzenx, it's not a package - go to Edit -> Software Sources and select restricted software
[22:45] <Cocorico> i'm a developer, i need the jre to match my jdk
[22:45] <Cocorico> thanks for the help
[22:46] <norbert_> hey all, when I boot my computer I need to mount the USB like 100 times before it starts automounting
[22:46] <jd_user_23234> ıs there any command which gets a parameter pid (proces id) and gives output the window id's which are using by this proces. After that i need another command to get window title name from this window id. is there someone to help me?
[22:46] <norbert_> does this sound familiar to anyone here?
[22:47] <Guinness2702> jd_user_23234, sounds familiar, but you need to do some googling - try 'x window information' or wininfo, and stuff like that
[22:48] <Pimo> hello, i have a big issue with the last version of ubuntu, after the upgrade i've notified that my pc at first start shutsdown alone.. and after 1 or 2 reboots it will work fine without problems for days... but if i shutdown for example during the night and i start it on the next monday it shoutsdown again...
[22:48] <Pimo>  everyday the same thing, why? my pc is a acer aspire 5720, is it a notified issue?? what can i do? i've tried also to format and install xubuntu
[22:48] <CyberDawg> norbert_, when I was younger I used to mount almost anything that moved
[22:48] <Zell> Hey all. Noob here trying to install ubuntu on my macbook bia usb hard drive. Everything runs smooth through terminal until it tries to move the file onto the hard drive itself. At this point the hard drive becomes unreadable and I have to reformat it. ANy help would be appreciated.
[22:49] <Guinness2702> Pimo, have a look in /var/log/messages for clues
[22:49] <Pimo> tnx
[22:49] <CyberDawg> wouldnt take me 100 times to do it eiter ;)... js....
[22:49] <LjL> jd_user_23234: i've found this http://blog.chewearn.com/2010/01/18/find-window-id-of-a-process-id-in-bash-script/
[22:49] <norbert_> jd_user_23234, your question isn't 100% clear, since you start it with "ıs there any command which gets a parameter pid (proces id)"
[22:49] <mowiaow> hi
[22:50] <mowiaow> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[22:50] <norbert_> jd_user_23234, is that part of what you want, something that gets a process id?
[22:50] <Guinness2702> norbert_, I think he means 'takes' instead of 'gets'
[22:50] <haux> I have an ASUS F1A75-M board with an AMD A8-3870K processor. I can't seem to find any temperature sensor program that will identify the board/cpu. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:50] <jd_user_23234> LjL:  thank you! :)
[22:50] <Guinness2702> norbert_, he want's window id &/or title from pid
[22:50] <Guest39331> what?
[22:51] <jd_user_23234> norbert_: if i will get a window id list, command line app will need a pid. right?
[22:51] <Guinness2702> "xwininfo" - I knew it was something like that :)
[22:51] <norbert_> yeah, so something like http://blog.chewearn.com/2010/01/18/find-window-id-of-a-process-id-in-bash-script/
[22:51] <norbert_> basically a let me google that for you
[22:51] <Raymond_> how do i uninstall python?
[22:51] <Raymond_> python 2.7.1
[22:51] <mowiaow> darmok his arms wide
[22:52] <LjL> mowiaow: this is an Ubuntu support channel, please don't fill it with irrelevant things :)
[22:52] <mowiaow> ok i fill it with things
[22:52] <Guinness2702> mowiaow, unless you're looking for locale settings for darmok's language ;)
[22:52] <norbert_> that is just scary, I found the same page as LjL
[22:52] <acerimmer> Raymond_: sudo apt-get purge python
[22:52] <norbert_> so many questions in channels like this that can be answered with a single Google search
[22:53] <_mike_> urlin2u, i'm back and Windows XP doesn't boot. Was just checking
[22:53] <Guinness2702> norbert_, true - i googled my question and got nothing - i asked here and got nothing - i googled again and found the answer :D
[22:53] <_mike_> urlin2u, Will head over to ##windows channel
[22:55] <Raymond_> acerimmer, thats what i tried and a bunch of programs popped up, is that what python 2.7.1 is. i have to install 10.10 python package so wifi radar will work. is this possible on 11.04
[22:55] <haux> I have an ASUS F1A75-M board with an AMD A8-3870K processor. I can't seem to find any temperature sensor program that will identify the board/cpu. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:55] <txdv> hello
[22:55] <[deXter]> haux, lm_sensors
[22:55] <haux> Doesn't work
[22:56] <haux> All it identifies is k10temp-pci-00c3
[22:56] <acerimmer> Raymond_: couldn't say as I only use LTS release.  Sorry.
[22:56] <[deXter]> haux, acpi
[22:56] <[deXter]> command is "acpi -V"
[22:57] <haux> I will try it.
[22:57] <haux> There is a program called Psensor that identifies my ssd, but that was about as far as i could get
[22:58] <Raymond_> acerimmer, is it possible to overwrite 2.7.1 with 2.6.6
[22:58] <acerimmer> Raymond_: sorry, IDK.  ask the channel again in a few minutes.
[22:58] <haux> What's that website where I can paste an output to link here in the chat?
[22:58] <Syph3r> i think theirs a #python channel
[22:58] <acerimmer> !paste|haux
[22:58] <Cocorico> hmmm, i have a major issue with my network. apparently it's fixed in kernel 3.1.
[22:59] <Cocorico> is there a way to use that easily in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:59] <haux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/813673/
[22:59] <[deXter]> Cocorico, Search for Ubuntu Mainline Kernel
[22:59] <Cocorico> thanks
[23:00] <[deXter]> Raymond_, sure but you have to manually download those packages
[23:01] <haux> [deXter], any other suggestions?
[23:01] <[deXter]> Raymond_, but I wouldn't recommend it as you may break other packages in your system that depends on it
[23:01] <Raymond_> ljl, is it possible to overwrite python 2.7.1 with python 2.6.6....... 2.7.1 is used in 11.04 which i am using, 2.6.6 is used for 10.10.
[23:01] <[deXter]> haux, Nope not really.. except for file a bug/feature report on the lm_sensors proejct page to add support for your board
[23:02] <haux> Alright, thanks.
[23:02] <explodingpiglets> a bit of help here. I downloaded the dual-boot version of ubuntu
[23:02] <explodingpiglets> how do I switch back to windows?
[23:02] <LjL> Raymond_: it doesn't seem like a good idea at the very least
[23:02] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: dual boot version?  no such thing.  Maybe you mean you installed ubuntu via the wubi method?
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> yea
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> wait a second....
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> did that erase the windows os?
[23:03] <txdv> a
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> acerimmer?
[23:03] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: did ubuntu erase windows?  no.
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> oh ok
[23:04] <explodingpiglets> well, how do I switch back to windows?
[23:04] <acerimmer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AuaF3-wvo
[23:04] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: ignore that.  sorry
[23:04] <txdv> hello
[23:04] <explodingpiglets> ok
[23:05] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> I was under the impression that I could use both ubuntu and windows without having to delete one
[23:05] <LjL> explodingpiglets: correct impression
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> then how do I go back to running windows?
[23:05] <LjL> explodingpiglets: so did you install with Wubi, or with the standard CD?
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> wubi
[23:05] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: true. maybe explain exactly what you want bcz wubi does = dual boot
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> I want to run both of them at the same time
[23:06] <LjL> explodingpiglets: i'm not familiar with Wubi but i believe you should have an option at boot time
[23:06] <LjL> explodingpiglets: uh you can't run them both *at the same time*
[23:06] <[deXter]> explodingpiglets, Unless of course you install Ubuntu in a virtual machine inside windows
[23:06] <zykotick9> LjL: wubi = fail, that's all you need to know ;)
[23:06] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: what dexter said
[23:06] <explodingpiglets> i don't have vmware
[23:06] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: virtual box is free
[23:07] <acerimmer> runs on windows/osx/ubuntu
[23:07] <explodingpiglets> ok
[23:07] <LjL> yeah but it's not really like he can run his *existing* Windows installation in VirtualBox [without a lot of trouble]
[23:07] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: some things to consider.  the absolutely "safest" way to run ubuntu and keep windows is to do a live boot from cdrom or usb
[23:08] <Guinness2702> LjL, He could run ubuntu in virtual box in his existing windows ;)
[23:08] <acerimmer> seems he left already...
[23:09] <acovrig> How do I fix a grub 17 error (I tried google, and nothing has worked so far)
[23:09] <acerimmer> acovrig: describe your installation/hardware...
[23:10] <urlin2u> acovrig, you have any details leading to this
[23:11] <hypeBoy> hi, can can i make the text cursor blink faster in text editing apps?
[23:11] <acovrig> fresh kubuntu install; 2 80GB HDD (/dev/sd{a,b}); sda=1Linux partition; sdb=1Linux partiton,1Swap (boot drive, sda is storage)
[23:11] <[deXter]> acerimmer, is it a dell computer?
[23:12] <t8xic8> yo
[23:12] <acovrig> I think I am using a new(er) version of grub, and the system is looking for an older version
[23:12] <Guinness2702> acovrig, http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[23:12] <acerimmer> acovrig: what version of kuntu and why do you suspect older/new grub issue?
[23:13] <urlin2u> acovrig, what release?
[23:13] <sn00p> Hello, I just switched to XFCE under ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason my alt tab function is not working can anybody help me?
[23:13] <almoxarife> "wubi=fail" is just fine and polite conversation here (btw, i dont think it is, i used it, its got its quirks), god help the passing opinion on unity though, wubi is sold by conical, it works!
[23:14] <acovrig> urlin2u, acerimmer: 11.10 oneiric
[23:14] <acovrig> acerimmer: Because `grub' -> command not found...
[23:14] <urlin2u> acovrig, your OS would only look for grub legacy if you had installed it.
[23:14] <almoxarife> acovrig: using wubi?
[23:14] <urlin2u> !grub | acovrig
[23:15] <acovrig> almoxarife: no
[23:16] <acovrig> as per the guide (Guinness2702), /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, isn't this for an older version of grub?
[23:16] <acerimmer> acovrig:  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId232162
[23:18] <urlin2u> acovrig, you have the 11.1o cd?
[23:18] <urlin2u> 11.10
[23:18] <acovrig> urlin2u: I'm in a recovery shell chrooted into my hdd from the live cd, yes
[23:18] <htmlinprogress> acovrig,  is it grub 1 or 2?
[23:19] <mister2> hey guys, i got a question. i have no usb device to boot from, my dvd burner isn't functioning (yay windows.) and i'd like to boot a live cd. Anybody know how to do that from HDD? i have a windows bootloader right now, and i'm not sure how feasible grub installation is. any thoughts?
[23:20] <urlin2u> acovrig, cool the link acerimmer gave should work here is the grub wiki as well in the chroot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[23:20] <acovrig> htmlinprogress: I think it is trying to be a hybrid, and thats where my problem is, I have stage1, yet I also have grub.cfg
[23:20] <htmlinprogress> google both
[23:20] <urlin2u> acovrig, you can purge all of grub from there and reload grub 2 as well.
[23:21] <acovrig> urlin2u: I take it thats `rm -R /boot/grub; grub-install <device>'
[23:21] <zykotick9> acovrig: "apt-cache policy grub-pc" might tell you what version you have.
[23:21] <yaboo> hi, bought a laptop, installed win 7 on the first 50gb,trying to install 11.10 desktop and during install it does not detect the win 7 install
[23:21] <yaboo> what have I done wrong please
[23:22] <acerimmer> yaboo: you mean it doesn't see the  win 7 parition??
[23:22] <acovrig> urlin2u: I have grub 1.99-12ubuntu5
[23:22] <zykotick9> acovrig: that's grub2 btw
[23:22] <yaboo> acerimmer, yes it does not see the win 7 parttiion
[23:22] <urlin2u> acovrig, I faerly rm I would run apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common then apt-get install grub-pc grub common   the when asked where grub goes put it in the mbr
[23:22] <urlin2u> rarely*
[23:23] <acerimmer> yaboo:  you installed win7 first??
[23:23] <yaboo> acerimmer, yes I did, hdd a 500gb, and win 7 is the first 50gb parttition
[23:23] <urlin2u> acovrig, I would only purge if your sure you have grub legacy mixed, but if you do the purge correct you wont break anything
[23:23] <phong_> is there a way not to let ubuntu going to sleep mode?
[23:23] <acerimmer> yaboo: pastebin a screen shot
[23:24] <phong_> i hate to enter password after screen out
[23:24] <acovrig> urlin2u: I would probably do a mv instead of a rm anyway just in case I wanted to come back to what I had
[23:24] <acerimmer> yaboo: also you did md5 check that ubuntu or is it a canonical cdrom?
[23:24] <phong_> can someone tell me how to turn off screen always stay on?
[23:24] <yaboo> acerimmer, let me fire up the laptop and work how to do that
[23:24] <stoic> Done everything i can think of and read about to get flash player working on firefox 3.5 and firefox 9 in xubuntu and i have nothing, extrememly frustrating when not one suggestion ive read about works
[23:24] <Guinness2702> phong_, look at power management settings and screensave settings
[23:24] <acerimmer> !paste|yaboo
[23:24] <hilary> Hi all. We cannot enter a password at the Ubuntu login screen. Both the computer keyboard and the on-screen accessibility keyboard are unable to enter characters in the password field. What could be a cause?
[23:24] <phong_> Guinness2702, you meant the power supply?
[23:25] <stoic> can anyone help ? ive manually moved libflashplayer.so to the plugins folder, tried flash aid, tried alternate plugins, enabled repositories where its supposed to be and anytime i try to apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree or install adobe-flashplayer i get nothing
[23:25] <Guinness2702> phong_, now, "power management" it used to be off System->Preferences->Power Management, but I don't know how the unity interface does it
[23:25] <phong_> i got it
[23:25] <phong_> thanks
[23:26] <Guinness2702> phong_, but the password thing I think is done off screensaver settings
[23:26] <Guinness2702> phong_, look at *both* :)
[23:26] <phong_> Guinness2702, i got it man
[23:27] <phong_> Guinness2702, did u know megaupload was down?
[23:27] <phong_> shut down
[23:27] <stoic> I dont know if its significant but im on an imac g4 ppc with xubuntu 2.6.32-37-powerpc
[23:27] <acovrig> urlin2u: GRUB Loading stage1.5, then GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17
[23:27] <Guinness2702> phong_, I had heard
[23:27] <phong_> Guinness2702, i'm sure all other file sharing company eventually fuked up
[23:28] <urlin2u> acovrig, that is after reloading the mbr, did you run a purge and reinstall, and set grub to the mbr?
[23:28] <phong_> Guinness2702, i dont undersand why youtube has not been shut down? people post illegal stuffs too
[23:28] <Cocorico> So i'm trying to install a mainline kernel to fixe my network problem... but i've no idea if i should take the -pae kernel or the normal one... which is similar to the "normal" kernel?
[23:28] <urlin2u> acovrig, you have another OS on the computer
[23:28] <hilary> Why would we not be able to enter text into the password field on the login page?
[23:28] <phong_> Guinness2702, is it because youtube is own by american ?
[23:29] <acerimmer> !offtopic|phong
[23:29] <acovrig> urlin2u: I did the purge, install, it asked where I wanted to install it, I chose the hdd (not the partition); I don't have another OS, but another drive (storage, non-boot)
[23:29] <zykotick9> Cocorico: if you have more then 4GB ram consider PAE, if less I'd to 486/686 whatever is available.
[23:29] <Guinness2702> phong_, I don't know the details, but youtube, i believe, will remove copyrighted content when asked - don't know anythign about megaupload, but anyway, this is offtopic
[23:29] <zykotick9> Cocorico: s/to/go/
[23:29] <Cocorico> there is without -pae or with -pae... i have 8GB of ram, is the default kernel in ubuntu pae?
[23:30] <zykotick9> Cocorico: i believe so
[23:30] <Cocorico> ok, thanks
[23:30] <urlin2u> acovrig, since you can boot the cd run the bootscript and pastebin the results.txt.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[23:30] <zykotick9> Cocorico: PAE allows more then 4GB memory to be used by system (BUT, it's a hack - and slows the entire system down, a little bit)
[23:30] <Cocorico> btw, is there no 64 bit version of the OS for intel processors?
[23:31] <zykotick9> Cocorico: amd64 is for intel too.
[23:31] <Cocorico> i only saw i386 vs amd64 when choosing what to download
[23:31] <t8xic8> which os ?
[23:31] <Cocorico> oh.
[23:31] <Cocorico> i see.
[23:31] <Cocorico> i took the wrong one then :-)
[23:31] <ITJogger> =)
[23:31] <urlin2u> acovrig, it may give you the info you need so post if needed it is a what is where readout very helpful.
[23:31] <t8xic8> which os r u talking about ?
[23:32] <Cocorico> well, i heard 32 bit was more stable, so let's call it a deliberate choice.
[23:32] <zykotick9> Cocorico: is you "really" want to use that 8GB of RAM you should use amd64 (but 32 bit is "easier")
[23:32] <t8xic8> haha g4 ppc cpu i have one of those
[23:33] <t8xic8> powermac g4
[23:33] <acovrig> urlin2u: when I booted into the rescue mode this time the OS is at /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sdb1
[23:33] <Cocorico> yeah i should have used the "normal" ubuntu website, it's much clearer than on xubuntu :p
[23:33] <Guinness2702> Cocorico, I use 64bit AMD with 8GB of ram, and I never have problems
[23:34] <urlin2u> acovrig, always run a fdisk -l to make sure your know whats up when booting with a thumb the drives can get reversed.
[23:34] <zykotick9> acovrig: the reason you should use UUIDs or LABELs in fstab
[23:34] <acovrig> zykotick9: I do, I've known to do this for quite some time now
[23:35] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, why is 32-bit easlier?  I use 64 without problem
[23:36] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: it's more a historic "easier" these days, getting better all the time (but there are still some issues)
[23:37] <Ben64> i haven't had an issue with 64bit for years
[23:37] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: zsnes is an example ;)
[23:38] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, ahh, right, yeah, I remember now - used to be the case that not a lot of things were compiled for 64-bit right??
[23:38] <scientes_> how do i remoun t my root ro, so i can copy it to another filesystem?
[23:38] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: they still aren't...
[23:39] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, I don't use zsnes...in fact, I don't use a hell of a lot, but I've never failed to get something I want for 64 bit
[23:39] <Guinness2702> scientes_, look at the remount option of mount
[23:39] <scientes_> with cp -ax * /foo
[23:39] <scientes_> Guinness2702, i used mount -t ext4 -o remount,ro /
[23:39] <scientes_>  but it didn't work
[23:39] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: i've used amd64 for years successfully, but "sometimes" it's more work then 32bit
[23:40] <Ben64> that was 5 years ago
[23:40] <scientes_> mount -o remount,ro /
[23:40] <scientes_> mount: / is busy
[23:40] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, well either you're unlucky or I'm lucky :)
[23:40] <scientes_> ahh shii
[23:40] <Guinness2702> scientes_, yeah, I wasn't sure if you would be able to do that
[23:40] <scientes_> Guinness2702, would it be bad if i did it with the sysrq key?
[23:41] <Ben64> scientes_: boot livecd, copy from that?
[23:41] <Guinness2702> scientes_, I don't know what one of those is, but it sounds it
[23:41] <scientes_> Guinness2702, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[23:41] <acovrig> !paste
[23:42] <scientes_> think it would work with the ro mount?
[23:42] <krozzi> Hello, has anyone installed mediatomb on an a ubuntu server?
[23:42] <Ben64> scientes_: why not use livecd
[23:42] <Guinness2702> scientes_, yeah, if you've got anything running that expects to be able to write to disk and it suddenly finds its stream has become RO, it may screw things up big - especially if something is in the middle of a write
[23:42] <scientes_> *without
[23:43] <acovrig> urlin2u: http://paste.ubuntu.com/813727/ is from the bootinfoscript
[23:43] <silvertip257> One of my machines (10.04) has Xorg go haywire and the monitor remains black after being idle/powersave.  Seemingly similar to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[23:43] <yaboo> acerimmer, how do I take a screenshot
[23:43] <_mike_> If i wanted to leave windows, what is an alternative to Outlook
[23:43] <Guinness2702> scientes_, why can't you just boot off a cd and do the copy?
[23:43] <urgodfather>  can someone help me fix suspend/hibernate? im using 11.10 on a hp tc1100
[23:44] <Ben64> _mike_: thunderbird
[23:44] <krozzi> thunderbird is a good alternative
[23:44] <acovrig> _mike_: thunderbird
[23:44] <urgodfather> yeah ^^
[23:44] <t8xic8> hey
[23:44] <Guinness2702> _mike you may find problems if your mailserver is Exchange
[23:44] <t8xic8> thunderbird is coo
[23:44] <acerimmer> yaboo: applications>accessories>take screenshot
[23:45] <Guinness2702> _mike_, but if it's standard POP or IMAP, you'll be fine
[23:45] <krozzi> does anyone have experience installing mediatomb on an ubuntu server
[23:45] <silvertip257> Alt + PrintScreen on keyboard > yaboo
[23:45] <Ben64> krozzi: whats your question
[23:45] <_mike_> ok thanks
[23:45] <silvertip257> or just PrintScreen for the whole desktop > yaboo
[23:46] <yaboo> silvertip257, thanks
[23:46] <yaboo> acerimmer, ok,where do I post the image too
[23:46] <urgodfather>  can someone help me fix suspend/hibernate? im using 11.10 on a hp tc1100??
[23:46] <acovrig> !paste | yahoo
[23:46] <krozzi> I am thinking about installingit on my ubuntu server and wanted to know if its straight forward or if it requires alot of work
[23:46] <Explodingpiglets> does anybody here have experience with virtualbox?
[23:46] <Guinness2702> urgodfather, you need to explain what the problem is first
[23:46] <Guinness2702> Explodingpiglets, probably, yes
[23:46] <zykotick9> _mike_: mutt (just joking, it's a cli program, but amazing)
[23:47] <mister2> howdy folks, is there any way to boot an iso image (or its contents) from grub off of a hard drive?
[23:47] <acerimmer> Explodingpiglets: yes.  talk
[23:47] <Ben64> krozzi: its in the repositories, will work fine
[23:47] <t8xic8> irc
[23:47] <urlin2u> acovrig, as I thought you have grub legacy in the sdb drive make sure your booting the sda
[23:47] <t8xic8> ppc is the best
[23:47] <t8xic8> !!
[23:47] <urgodfather> Guinness2702, it fails to hibernate and cannot return from suspend
[23:48] <yaboo> acerimmer, imagebin.org/194976
[23:48] <Guinness2702> mister2, I believe grub might do this - google for "grub boot iso" or similar
[23:48] <krozzi> Ben64: will it serve up ISO's?
[23:48] <Ben64> krozzi: mediatomb is for media, not disc images
[23:48] <mister2> guiness2702 i was hoping for a link... satellite internet is definitely not conductive to trying to find information
[23:49] <acerimmer> yaboo: and you completely installed win7
[23:49] <BabyGirl> is there a ppa for adobe flash player to keep up to date ?
[23:49] <yaboo> acerimmer, how else would I have, it boots win7, just installed drivers or updates
[23:50] <urlin2u> acovrig, at least make sure your booting the HD with ubuntu.
[23:50] <krozzi> Ben64: I figured that was the case. Do you know of any CLI programs that I might have run and convert the images?
[23:50] <szal> BabyGirl: if using Firefox, use the FlashAid plugin, that'll alert you in case of an update
[23:50] <Ben64> krozzi: from what... to what
[23:50] <acerimmer> yaboo: that's what I was asking.
[23:50] <acovrig> urlin2u: wow, all that work and frustration, all I had to do was switch the HDDs in the boot order of the BIOS, and it boots just find :|
[23:50] <yaboo> acerimmer, why do I need to do more
[23:50] <krozzi> Ben64: From ISO to something mediatomb can use like mpge4 or MKV
[23:51] <yaboo> for win7 to be seen
[23:51] <Ben64> krozzi: you can mount isos
[23:51] <acerimmer> yaboo: researching now...
[23:51] <urlin2u> acovrig, I would call this a aha moment eh. :)
[23:51] <acerimmer> yaboo: by the numbers then.  first, did you md5 check the ubuntu so we know it's a good .iso?
[23:51] <Guinness2702> mister2, - your internet can't handle a couple of web pages?
[23:51] <yaboo> acerimmer, I installed in7 via usb dvd, and left it at straight install
[23:52] <acovrig> urlin2u: yup, like when you can't find the phone, thats in your hand sorta thing
[23:52] <yaboo> acerimmer, yes I have done a md5 check
[23:52] <urlin2u> acovrig, that bootscript is your best tool around to see what is going on.
[23:52] <BabyGirl> szal,is not on sypnatic :(
[23:52] <yaboo> I have used the same usb key install on another machine and it worked
[23:52] <mister2> guiness2702 try 5-20 kbps and see how you like it :P i'm looking around now, but it's been taking a while so i thought i'd ask on here again
[23:52] <szal> BabyGirl: no, but in Firefox
[23:52] <yaboo> also it worked as a straight install with no win7
[23:52] <krozzi> Ben64: I know I can mount it but I have about 7TB's of images I would like to be able to script something to convert 1 ISO at a time and dump it into a new dir.
[23:52] <yaboo> acerimmer, so I'm assuming there is something with win7
[23:53] <Ben64> krozzi: you can't convert isos because it is an image, not a format for media
[23:53] <acerimmer> yaboo: don't assume that.  run sudo fdisk -lu plz.  I'm looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/85833/installer-doesnt-detect-existing-partition-table-windows-7-partition
[23:53] <acerimmer> sudo fdisk -lu
[23:53] <Guinness2702> mister2, ouch, sympathy..... how the hell did you get an ISO over that?
[23:54] <acovrig> If I run sudo it asks for my passowrd, can I make it ask for root's passowrd (like su does)
[23:54] <pnorman> !root
[23:54] <mister2> well at night i get anywhere from 20-40 on a good downlaod. i can get about a gig in 8 hours via torrent, http downloads i got 1.6 last night
[23:54] <krozzi> Ben64: I figured as much as well. Just going to be alot of work to re-rip everything and convert it manually
[23:54] <urgodfather> anyone?
[23:54] <szal> urgodfather: anyone what?
[23:54] <mister2> guiness2702, but yeah, it's no fun
[23:55] <yaboo> acerimmer, ok done the fdisk and sees the win7 partition but as a w95  fat32 (LBA), thought odd,should be ntfs
[23:55] <krozzi> Ben64: I appreciate the help, I have to run for now. Have a good one
[23:55] <zykotick9> urgodfather: is your swap partition larger then your physical memory?
[23:55] <acerimmer> yaboo: paste a pic
[23:55] <urgodfather> zykotick9 yes
[23:55] <Guinness2702> mister2, okay, well I did a quick google - this sounds like it might help http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[23:56] <zykotick9> urgodfather: ok, just checking.  suspend/hibernate can be a pain.  good luck.
[23:56] <mister2> guiness2702 awesome! i'll let you know in a bit if it looks like it'll work and when i start to try it
[23:56] <hoppipoIIa> There are good tutorials for making suspending and hybernate working  :)
[23:57] <yaboo> acerimmer, imagebin.org/194977
[23:57] <fil> hello... question about transmission.. i added a ppa from their site in order to get a newer version.. now i want to uninstall it.. i did apt-remove --purge transmission,  then autoclean... which transmission returns nothing, yet it is still in menu and if clicked still works... any suggestions
[23:57] <fil> ?
[23:57] <urgodfather> zykotick9, theres a workaround for earlier versions but im not that familiar with differences that have been changed from then to now
[23:57] <Guinness2702> mister2, past my bedtime, I won't be here that long ;)
[23:58] <acerimmer> yaboo: looks like part of that got cut off at the top - the line about GPT.  Precisely the error the guy had http://askubuntu.com/questions/85833/installer-doesnt-detect-existing-partition-table-windows-7-partition
[23:58] <urlin2u> yaboo, paste the whole url
[23:58] <mister2> guiness2702 looks perfect! i think i'll have to grab an ubuntu machine to test it on before i screw up the main windows (ugh) machine
[23:58] <Guinness2702> mister2, have fun
[23:58] <urlin2u> yaboo, sorry I got it
[23:58] <AsSaSsIn> ciao
[23:59] <acovrig> what is the keyboard shortcut to select all in konsole?
[23:59] <urlin2u> yaboo, you have a wubi install
[23:59] <mivulf> Hello guys.
[23:59] <yaboo> urlin2u, wubi?
[23:59] <urlin2u> yaboo, you installed ubuntu from windows right?