[07:04] <trappist> zauber: what ip are you using? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:04] <asdfasdfasdf> robotgeek, so there are no alternate repositories?
[07:04] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: no need, it's there in the repos
[07:04] <Stormx2> Hi. I have a new ipaq driver, and to run it i have to ummod the current one and add this one. Is there a way this can be done automaticly? Do I need tor recomile the kernal or something?
[07:04] <asdfasdfasdf> robotgeek, it's not showing up in my synaptic
[07:04] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: u need to enable universe repositories
[07:04] <robotgeek> !tell asdfasdfasdf about repos
[07:04] <n0odl3> asdfasdfasdf: just sudo apt-get conky
[07:04] <n0odl3> conky comes with ubuntu
[07:04] <sambagirl> anyone using videolan?
[07:04] <Nei> robotgeek, same old story. I think the problem is not with gcc but that my environment is broken for some unknown reason
[07:05] <robotgeek> sambagirl: vlc, yes?
[07:05] <zauber> in my.cnf on the server I have commented out the 'listen <IP_ADDRESS>', and then I'm trying to connect to the server by it's real public ipadress from my local machine
[07:05] <robotgeek> Nei: maybe a reinstall :(
[07:05] <Nei> :((
[07:05] <zauber> trappist: can't tell you the ipadress I'm afraid
[07:05] <robotgeek> Nei: please do file a bug
[07:05] <sambagirl> i found there is debian version. but it saying i need to change /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:05] <Nei> this is what makes linux no joy
[07:05] <sambagirl> what can i use for editor? if this was amgia i would use opus.
[07:06] <Nei> I bet noone can reproduce it neway
[07:06] <robotgeek> sambagirl: vlc is there in the repos
[07:06] <sambagirl> what for ubuntu?
[07:06] <trappist> robotgeek: I don't recommend having mysql listen on a public ip address, but I can tell you how to let it through your firewall if you insist on doing that
[07:06] <robotgeek> sambagirl: nano/gedit/vi
[07:06] <trappist> oops
[07:06] <robotgeek> trappist: :)
[07:06] <trappist> zauber: I don't recommend having mysql listen on a public ip address, but I can tell you how to let it through your firewall if you insist on doing that
[07:06] <Stormx2> Hi, anyone?
[07:06] <sambagirl> when you say repos i just say get apt vlc ?
[07:06] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: how do you use that command? im trying to search for the file i have an error on (ImLib)
[07:06] <sambagirl> thanks robotgeek
[07:06] <trappist> zauber: also if you connect via the public ip it probably won't count as a local connection
[07:06] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nei, the only way someone would be able to "break into" yur box is if they had the root pass, and since it's disabled or "closed off" by defualt, theres not alot to worry about
[07:06] <robotgeek> sambagirl: yes, u need to have universe repository enabled
[07:06] <robotgeek> !tell sambagirl about repos
[07:06] <sambagirl> haha
[07:06] <Nei> CaBlGuY-OuT, ?
[07:07] <sambagirl> ok
[07:07] <sambagirl> how can  i be sure i have that?
[07:07] <zauber> trappist:  well, I don't intend to keep it that way - I want to do it temporarily to set up some databases. Then I intend to secure it again.
[07:07] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: :/  just type    apt-cache search imlib | grep dev
[07:07] <CaBlGuY-OuT> !tell Nei  about root pass
[07:07] <CaBlGuY-OuT> !tell Nei  about root
[07:07] <mahangu> thoreauputic, festival is giving me errors, any suggestions
[07:07] <zauber> trappist: so please tell me how. knowledge never hurt any one... or did it?
[07:07] <zauber> :)
[07:07] <war-totem> can someone tell me how to unrar a bunch of files?
[07:07] <mahangu> im trying to get it to work with kismet
[07:07] <bina> robotgeek: success, it worked :)
[07:07] <war-totem> im not having any luck
[07:07] <war-totem> and i believe i have unrar free and non free
[07:07] <robotgeek> bina: nice!
[07:07] <Nei> CaBlGuY-OuT, thanks for the info but it doesn't really relate to my problem
[07:07] <trappist> zauber: I dunno why you don't just have it listen locally and do your stuff locally, but if you insist - iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT
[07:08] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: I suggest you  install apthowto and run it - it tells you how to do this stuff
[07:08] <Hoxzer> >:) just hide my parents liquors
[07:08] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nei,  NP, Im just sayin, no need to worry about security issues with Linux, MOST of the time
[07:08] <trappist> zauber: if that doesn't do it, use -I instead of -A
[07:08] <demank> halo
[07:08] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: sorry apt-howto I think is the name
[07:08] <Weidl> Hallo
[07:08] <Nei> CaBlGuY-OuT, I never worried about security .
[07:09] <robotgeek> Nei has bigger problems at hand :(
[07:09] <CaBlGuY-OuT> Nei,  then why u worried about givin trappist  yur IP??
[07:09] <Nei> did I?
[07:09] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-OuT: u misread the conversation, that was zauber
[07:09] <Weidl> OK
[07:09] <jbroome> security through obscurity is my favorite
[07:09] <CaBlGuY-OuT> robotgeek,  Oh my bad..  :p
[07:09] <robotgeek> Weidl: can we help you?
[07:09] <sambagirl> you said vi/edit/gedit/
[07:09] <Weidl> interessant
[07:09] <sambagirl> ?
[07:10] <Weidl> ich glaube nicht
[07:10] <war-totem> anyone know about unraring files on linux?
[07:10] <robotgeek> sambagirl: nano or gedit
[07:10] <sambagirl> okie dokie thank ou
[07:10] <gebharra> war-totem: yep
[07:10] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: bbrb needs ImLib >= 1.9.8
[07:10] <sambagirl> you
[07:10] <_jason> war-totem:  install unrar
[07:10] <robotgeek> war-totem: unrar x file.rar
[07:10] <Weidl> ciao
[07:10] <n0odl3> i did the grep but im not sure which one im suppose to install
[07:10] <trappist> CaBlGuY-OuT: also the way ubuntu is set up doesn't mean there's "not a lot to worry about" security wise, and having your root password is not the only way an attacker can compromise your box.
[07:10] <war-totem> robotgeek: thanks man, dont know how i forgot that ..
[07:10] <zauber> trappist: thanks, I could never get htose iptables figured out myself. the reason is... well, to be honest - although I'm ok with setting up databases in mysql through the console, I can never get the user-system figured out, so i'd like to use mysql administrator to do it since it can take care of different versions and passwords and all that. but I have to do it over ip-connection, cause I can't get physical access to the server. There you have the (
[07:11] <CaBlGuY-OuT> trappist,  I was sayin Linux in general..
[07:11] <robotgeek> zauber: hmm, ssh -X :)
[07:11] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: well read the output and see which one is relevant
[07:11] <CaBlGuY-OuT> trappist,  I know Linux can still be comrimised, but on a whole, it more secure than winblowz..
[07:11] <drummer> Having MAJOR problems re-installing VMWare on a re-install of Hoary.  Problems related to gcc.  Can someone help?
[07:11] <trappist> CaBlGuY-OuT: it's more securable than windows, but security is up to the admin, not the os.
[07:11] <robotgeek> drummer: what problems?
[07:12] <sambagirl> it say edit /etc/apt/sources.list does this look like right file? it is empty!
[07:12] <Nei> robotgeek, just fyi I did it quick and dirty and added an "export PATH=.." to my shell's rc
[07:12] <gooo> could anybody help me with configuring Option Globetrotter PCMCIA card??
[07:12] <thoreauputic> n0odl3: to see more info  type for instance   apt-cache show  libimlib2-dev
[07:12] <Nei> I don't believe this is the proper solution though
[07:12] <WhiteRabbit> CaBlGuY-OuT, what common attack method would you use to detour the security of a linux box?
[07:12] <sambagirl> anyone doing vlc streaming so i can see how it works?
[07:13] <robotgeek> Nei: hmm, as long as you don't have to reinstall :)
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  ummmmmm  brute force probably ..
[07:13] <drummer> robotgeek: I keep getting erorr messages about a gcc mismatch - vmware-config keeps aborting
[07:13] <trappist> tehehe.
[07:13] <WhiteRabbit> CaBlGuY-OuT, brute force what?
[07:13] <mahangu> robotgeek, any idea what that error message meant?
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  never really done one so I really don't know..
[07:13] <dennis__> Hi all
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  the root pass
[07:13] <robotgeek> mahangu: which one?
[07:13] <Nei> robotgeek, that might be true but I hate it when I do something and don't know why this works and do know that this is not the proper way to fix it :(
[07:13] <dennis__> I was wondering, how does one install tomcat? I've already used java-package to install java
[07:13] <trappist> drummer: export CC=gcc-3.4
[07:13] <CaBlGuY-OuT> WhiteRabbit,  or root account
[07:13] <trappist> drummer: if you have gcc-3.4 installed
[07:13] <zauber> robotgeek: sorry, no X installed on the server
[07:14] <mahangu> robotgeek, oh shit, i did killall esd, and it's spewing me everything :)
[07:14] <drummer> trappist: I tried that - no joy.
[07:14] <sambagirl> robogeek videolan is wonderful. it's the best i ever see other than demoscene.tv streaming
[07:14] <mahangu> robotgeek, everything it had in store
[07:14] <WhiteRabbit> CaBlGuY-OuT, what if they have root login turned off & extra secure options to log in even as a user with shh keys using 256bit triple-des
[07:14] <mahangu> brb
[07:14] <mahangu> gotta reboot
[07:14] <trappist> drummer: read the rest of the error.  it says your kernel was compiled with one version of gcc and your compiler is this version.  what are the details?
[07:14] <CaBlGuY-OuT> anyway, the reason I was in this channel was to find out if there was another CD burner I could install as the ones on my dektop aren't working
[07:14] <drummer> trappist: and yes gcc-3.4 is installed in /usr/bin
[07:14] <dennis__> debian has it on packages.debian.org, but ubuntu doesn't sem to have it
[07:14] <asdfasdfasdf> robotgeek, how do i enable Xft so that conky works normally
[07:14] <Nei> Stormx2, why did you spam me with /ctcp clientinfo finger ping userinfo ?
[07:14] <robotgeek> WhiteRabbit,CaBlGuY-OuT : #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:15] <dennis__> (tomcat, that is)
[07:15] <drummer> trappist: can copy a portion of the error message if you want
[07:15] <trappist> drummer: if it's a one-liner, feel free
[07:15] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: i have mine disabled from what i see
[07:15] <trappist> drummer: else use the pastebin
[07:16] <smi|e> !breezy
[07:16] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:16] <CaBlGuY-OuT> so, CD burner other than k3b or serpentine, any takers??
[07:16] <robotgeek> asdfasdfasdf: so, in all probability..i dunno what you are talking about!
[07:16] <drummer> trappist: it's a little long - Never used the paste bin, how do I?
[07:16] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-OuT: k3b works wonderfully for me, it doesn't for you? how abt graveman?
[07:16] <Stormx2> Nei: I was testing out commands ^_^
[07:16] <thoreauputic> CaBlGuY-OuT: graveman, gnomebaker
[07:16] <robotgeek> !tell drummer about pastebin
[07:16] <trappist> drummer: /topic
[07:16] <adjacent> what package provides mysql headers?
[07:16] <trappist> or that
[07:16] <graabein> hello, i've got a couple questions
[07:17] <Nei> what's wrong with k3b?
[07:17] <CaBlGuY-OuT> robotgeek,  nope, file not supported is what I get..
[07:17] <axel_> is it possible to play quicktime *.mov in totem ?
[07:17] <robotgeek> adjacent: what are u trying to compile?
[07:17] <CaBlGuY-OuT> on both of them
[07:17] <adjacent> robotgeek: cactid
[07:17] <dennis__> !tell dennis__ about you
[07:17] <graabein> how do i make several rar-files instead of one large with file-roller?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> axel_: with w32codecs, yes
[07:17] <dennis__> just figuring out its name :)
[07:17] <emgee> I'm trying to install Skype but it complains... :
[07:17] <emgee>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[07:17] <emgee>   Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.
[07:17] <emgee> Can that be fixed somehow?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> axel_: but install totem-xine as well
[07:18] <axel_> thoreauputic: ah ok, ill look on the wiki, thx
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> graabein,  use the rar command line perhaps.
[07:18] <axel_> thoreauputic: why xine ?
[07:18] <graabein> allright, good idea, thanks
[07:18] <thoreauputic> axel_: it just works better :)
[07:18] <robotgeek> adjacent: apt-cache search mysql | grep dev
[07:18] <trappist> pfft.  it's all about mplayer.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> graabein,  fileroller is just a front end to all the commands I think. Rar support in it is not that well done.
[07:19] <thoreauputic> axel_:  totem-xine looks the same but it handles more codecs etc
[07:19] <niksie> anyone know how to isntall tomcat on breezy badger?
[07:19] <axel_> thoreauputic: ok, ill do that
[07:19] <musik> how do i install transcode in ubuntu hoary?? its not in repos........
[07:19] <adjacent> robotgeek: i see. thanks
[07:19] <shwag> so did anyone else have the experience of all the firefox totem plugins totally NOT working?
[07:19] <robotgeek> graabein: unless u install unrar-nonfree
[07:20] <thoreauputic> shwag: they seem to work OK here
[07:20] <graabein> i've got rar... looking at the man file now
[07:20] <shwag> thoreauputic, reeeaaalllly
[07:20] <thoreauputic> shwag: but that' swith totem-xine
[07:20] <shwag> thoreauputic, oh..the online guide recommends the other one.
[07:21] <mc|amb> is there something wrong with -->  sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/carpeta /mnt/win
[07:21] <shwag> thoreauputic, I had to manually delete the totem plugins and now the mplayer plugins are working.  It was the first thing in Ubuntu I had to do that actually required me dropping into a command line.
[07:21] <niksie> should I just download tomcat and compile it manually? does anyone else actually have tomcat in apt-cache search ?
[07:22] <robotgeek> niksie: nope, it doesn't show up
[07:22] <_jason> niksie:  nope
[07:22] <drummer> trappist: figured out pastebin - the error info is in 4068
[07:22] <thoreauputic> shwag: hmm - well much to my surprise the totem plugins worked out of the box here once I installed totem-xine and w32codecs etc
[07:22] <musik> shwag: u could have removed that totem things with all its plugins via synaptic..
[07:22] <trappist> tomcat's not free, is it?
[07:22] <trappist> drummer: link?
[07:22] <Tomcat_> niksie: Search ubuntuforums.org... there are HowTos and many people who have installed it.
[07:22] <Tomcat_> trappist: It is.
[07:22] <niksie> thanks
[07:23] <alan> hi
[07:23] <musik> east or west, kaffiene is the best:)
[07:23] <axel_> thoreauputic: what abour installing w32 codecs on amd64 ??
[07:23] <trappist> Tomcat_: as in speech?
[07:23] <drummer> trappist: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4068
[07:23] <Tomcat_> trappist: As in beer and in speech.
[07:23] <robotgeek> axel_: i think u need 32 bit chroots and stuff
[07:23] <shwag> musik, well I use totem all the time just fine. It was just the plugins for mozilla that sucked.
[07:23] <thoreauputic> axel_: can't be done without a 32bit chroot I guess
[07:24] <musik> shwag: in totem u cant do slow motion while watching video, kaff can do that easily.....
[07:24] <thoreauputic> axel_: but I haven't used amd64
[07:24] <trappist> drummer: "For proper build you'll have to replace gcc with symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc-3.3"
[07:24] <trappist> drummer: translation: ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 /usr/bin/gcc
[07:24] <jron> why am i getting this msg about 1 in 5 find attempts: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for ./proc/7396: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[07:24] <robotgeek> drummer: sudo
[07:24] <trappist> drummer: or ln -sf if it already exists
[07:25] <thoreauputic> jron: I've seen that too - don't know the answer though
[07:25] <mc|amb> is this correct--> sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/carpeta /mnt/win
[07:26] <trappist> mc|amb: depends.  it's a valid command though.
[07:26] <drummer> trappist: wow could have sworn that was one of two dozen things I tried about 2AM, but I'll try again.
[07:26] <mc|amb> tarppist: depends on what?? my shares??
[07:26] <mc|amb> trappist: depends on what? my shares?
[07:26] <yohan> I tried installing xmms and mplayer but all the menus are so uglt
[07:26] <trappist> mc|amb: for one thing.  you might have better luck saying "when I run this command, this happens.  what am I doing wrong?"
[07:27] <yohan> should i install gtk2 or something?
[07:27] <yohan> or gtk2 version of xmms etc?
[07:27] <mc|amb> trappist: ok, just a sec
[07:27] <n0odl3> how do i take a screenshot?
[07:27] <n0odl3> in term?
[07:27] <trappist> n0odl3: import -window root filename.png
[07:27] <ahoora> hi all
[07:27] <thoreauputic> yohan: those appsare both gtk 1 - try beep-media-player for a gtk2 version of xmms
[07:28] <yohan> thanks thoreauputic
[07:28] <mcrawfor> hey, what's that meta-package that gets you all the build-essentials again?
[07:28] <yohan> should i try and only install gtk2?
[07:28] <graabein> okay, i got rar to work, great... now about gnomebaker -- it suddenly messes up my file names!
[07:28] <trappist> mc|amb: build-essential
[07:28] <mcrawfor> tee hee
[07:28] <Gdp_usrlam> Greetings from argentina
[07:28] <mc|amb> trappist, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4069
[07:28] <trappist> graabein: truncates and capitalizes?
[07:28] <mcrawfor> stupid plurals
[07:28] <thoreauputic> yohan: erm - up to you really - you don't install gtk2 as such, just the apps you want
[07:29] <graabein> trappist, hmmmm, truncates i guess...
[07:29] <yohan> thoreauputic: how do i start that music player?
[07:29] <trappist> mc|amb: can you ping that ip address?
[07:29] <graabein> trappist, it worked properly before, i swear, but i can't find any preferences
[07:29] <robotgeek> alrite, time to snooze! cya all later
[07:29] <thoreauputic> yohan: ?  beep-media-player appears in the gnome menu
[07:29] <yohan> thoreauputic: yeah but whats the command for it?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> yohan: or just type  beep-media-player
[07:30] <mc|amb> trappist: no, but the address i'm trying to connect can ping me
[07:30] <thoreauputic> or beep <hit tab>
[07:30] <trappist> graabein: I've never used the app, but certain cd filesystems are very picky about filenames.
[07:30] <yohan> thanks!
[07:30] <mc|amb> trappist: wait, yes I can ping that ip
[07:30] <trappist> mc|amb: my guess is you have a routing issue or a firewall issue.  if you can't ping it, you're not likely to be able to mount its shares.
[07:30] <trappist> ok.
[07:30] <axel_> Where o i have to start to get chroot ?
[07:30] <drummer> trappist:  Bless You, thank you, it f***ing worked!!!!!!
[07:30] <mey> !w32codecs
[07:30] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. To download the debs: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy).
[07:30] <graabein> trappist, yep i know, but i've burned dvd's with it before... could it be a config file somewhere?
[07:30] <trappist> drummer: I forgot which problem what yours :)
[07:30] <trappist> graabein: yes, it could.
[07:31] <mc|amb> trappist: I can pint the ip... so what do you think is wrong??
[07:31] <trappist> mc|amb: try smbclient -L thatip
[07:32] <mc|amb> trappist: i've tried that and It doesn't work
[07:32] <trappist> drummer: oh you were the vmware guy.  you're welcome :)
[07:32] <ahoora> can some1 help me plz ... i have installed g++ and i want to start programming :( but i dont know how to run it
[07:32] <trappist> mc|amb: you don't get to say "doesn't work" in here.
[07:32] <drummer> trappist: Molto grazie.  ciao.
[07:32] <ahoora> when i type g++ it asks me for input file
[07:32] <trappist> drummer: any time
[07:33] <NigelS> ahoora: g++ is a c++ compiler, you need to provide it with your C++ source code and then it will compile it by default to a.out - otherwise with the -o switch to the file of your choice.
[07:33] <mc|amb> trappist: it says: timed out connecting to ip
[07:33] <trappist> ahoora: g++ is a compiler, not a development environment.  first you write code with a text editor, then you compile it with g++/
[07:33] <trappist> mc|amb: is the remote machine a linux box?
[07:33] <mc|amb> trappist, nope. windows
[07:33] <ahoora> so there is no user interface ?
[07:34] <trappist> mc|amb: I'm definitely thinking firewall.  is it windows xp?
[07:34] <trappist> ahoora: no
[07:34] <mc|amb> trappist: yep
[07:34] <NigelS> ahoora: there is a user interface, it's the command line - g++ is a compiler not an IDE, you're after a different program altogether
[07:34] <ahoora> is there any user interface program that can make it easier?
[07:34] <trappist> mc|amb: try turning off the firewall
[07:34] <trappist> ahoora: kdevelop
[07:34] <ahoora> my god linux is so hard
[07:34] <ahoora> lol
[07:34] <trappist> hehe
[07:35] <mc|amb> trappist: it had zonealarm turned on.,. so i turned it off ,and still nothing, or does xp has another firewall?
[07:35] <trappist> mc|amb: yes, it has one built in.
[07:35] <NigelS> ahoora: I suggest you get a book on C or some such, or download it from the web.  To make software, if you're a beginner programmer you should forget about an IDE for now.  Start with a text editor, like emacs, vim, kate and create your source like that.  Then run a compiler on it.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> XP service pack 2 - disables lots of things with its firewall
[07:35] <trappist> lunch time.  bbiaf.
[07:35] <mc|amb> trappist: can you help me turn it off?
[07:36] <ahoora> trappist: after one year working with windows i was familiar with that what do you think how long does it take for me to become familiar with linux? lol
[07:36] <ahoora> Nigels thanks alot
[07:36] <ahoora> but what about libraries like conio.h and others does it accept them by default?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> ahoora: that depends on you
[07:37] <musik> NigelS: dont u think IDEs are better for newbies.....than emacs or vim!!!!!!!!!
[07:37] <ahoora> thoreauputic do you knowo any good online source for starters? i have started with linux.org lessons
[07:37] <sunyj> a moment ago,I installed debian,but when rebooting,occur "miss kernel and user mode driver hw_rendom",
[07:37] <NigelS> musik: absolutely not.
[07:37] <thoreauputic> ahoora: how much you learn and how fast depends on your effort
[07:38] <sunyj> what's "hw_rendom"
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ahoora: for basic commands try http://tuxfiles.org
[07:38] <ahoora> thank you i am checking it now
[07:39] <musik> NigelS: why not?? im also goign to begin c++ programming.....why u recommend emacs. vim.....these themselves require learning...
[07:39] <NigelS> ahoora: conio.h is a DOS header
[07:39] <sunyj>  a moment ago,I installed debian,but when rebooting,occur "miss kernel and user mode driver hw_rendom",
[07:39] <sunyj> why
[07:39] <thoreauputic> ahoora: if you are planning to stick with ubuntu or debian google for "apt howto" or install the  apt-howto package
[07:40] <sunyj> I could't install debian,but I can install ubuntu
[07:40] <thoreauputic> ahoora: if you install that package and run the command  apt-howto it will open in a browser
[07:40] <orbishek> hi
[07:40] <ahoora> thanks
[07:40] <NigelS> musik: they're text editors, plain and simple text editors.  You're welcome to use any text editor you like.  An IDE can get in the way, it doesn't help you program if you're just doing simple programs and it's best to understand them all yourself without any fancy features first.  If you like use nano, or gedit.  I suggested emacs or vim or kate as they have syntax highlighting and understand indentation which are nice thigs to have.  It's also *worth* learn
[07:41] <mc|amb> trappist: thanks!!!!!!!!!!! it was the fucking xp firewall
[07:41] <zooko> Dear Ubuntuists: I've already reported this bug, and now I'm asking for help in how to get my system usable again without screwing up /usr/bin/ldd...  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18896
[07:41] <ahoora> from next week any one who'd have a problem can ask me LOL
[07:41] <orbishek> when  i try running real player ,i get "failed ti initialize child process,access denied" ,what's wrong
[07:41] <Chousuke> NigelS: nice rant.
[07:41] <x_or> Anyone know what switch I can provide to apt-get remove mysql-server to remove the data directories?  I want to completely obliterate the databases and reinstall.
[07:42] <musik> NigelS: thx for the help.....but IDEs also do indentation, highlighting etc...even debugging:)
[07:42] <n0odl3> trappist: it doesnt work
[07:42] <NigelS> Chousuke: not how I'd characterise it but you're welcome.
[07:42] <x_or> orbishek:  What sound manager are you using?
[07:42] <HappyFool> anyone know how to turn off the ipv6 listening port in dnsmasq?
[07:42] <ahoora> orbishek you are the lucky one because i installed it but there is only a shortcut here and nothing happens when i click it :D
[07:42] <n0odl3> trappist: do you know another way?
[07:42] <musik> whoa so many questions......
[07:42] <dducko> Does anyone know of an app fro converting image filetypes,  ie .tga to .jpg?
[07:42] <NigelS> musik: sure, but for linux it's good to learn to use the tools and use make files.  A lot of open source projects use them and it's nice to understand that process.
[07:43] <NigelS> dducko: imagemagick's conver should do that I think?
[07:43] <NigelS> convert*
[07:43] <dducko> thanks
[07:43] <zooko> How do I delete diversions?
[07:43] <orbishek> i'm new to this ,i dont get you ,what's a sound manager (in linux)
[07:43] <n0odl3> does anyone else know a way to take screenshot with term?
[07:44] <erUSUL> n0odl3, man xwd
[07:44] <thoreauputic> n0odl3:  if you install imagemagick you  can do   import -window root screen.png
[07:44] <Niomi> dducko, doesn't gimp do that?
[07:44] <troy14> help! I cant get a connection to mysql
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Niomi: he asked for "from terminal"
[07:45] <zooko> A-ha!  dpkg-divert.
[07:45] <dducko> I dont need that power just need to change them quickly... and I didnt check..
[07:45] <dducko> Gimp confuses me
[07:45] <Niomi> thoreauputic: oh, i'm sorry.. heh, maybe i need more tea
[07:45] <NigelS> convert is good because you can stick it in a bash script for mass conversions
[07:45] <musik> NigelS: what shud i use? emacs, vim or xemacs or something else??  and how do i learn these advanced editors in 1st place??
[07:45] <troy14> can anyone offer some suggestions as to why mysql cont connect?
[07:45] <HappyFool> both emacs and vim have built-in tutorials
[07:45] <troy14> acn't?
[07:46] <troy14> can't?
[07:46] <zooko> musik I use xemacs.  You start it, and then run the self-tutorial.
[07:46] <graabein> i found a setting for gnome baker in configuration editor called joliet... it's a checkbox. if i check it, will the filenames come out properly and not truncated??
[07:46] <FatDarel> Yo people what is up with the ubuntu xpdf its all messsed up man  . . . .
[07:46] <Bols> Does someone know the command to disable sudo plz?
[07:47] <FatDarel> yeah ...
[07:47] <WildZeck> apt-get remove sudo
[07:47] <FatDarel> Bols, use su :)
[07:47] <HappyFool> Bols: you mean maybe 'sudo -k' ?
[07:47] <NigelS> musik: you need to find the one that you're most comfortable with but yes they all have tutorials.  For example the command vimtutor starts a vim tutorial.  Emacs is v. powerful and effectively like an IDE when it's configured, e.g. you can issue compilations commands from within it etc and also has its tutorial
[07:47] <trappist> n0odl3: define "doesn't work"
[07:47] <WildZeck> do you want to remove it ?
[07:47] <Bols> HappyFool, hmm.. no, I just want to give a password to my root account
[07:47] <WildZeck> or desactivate it ?
[07:47] <troy14> !mysql
[07:47] <ubotu> it has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:47] <HappyFool> !tell Bols about sudo
[07:48] <FatDarel> NigelS, yes emacs is a very good IDE but i can never slesct a block of text inside vi
[07:48] <HappyFool> Bols: read that wikipage
[07:48] <n0odl3> thoreauputic: i c can i just sudo apt-get imagemagick?
[07:48] <orbishek> when i try to install my graphics card driver,it's searching for a compiler (not found),i thought it was packaged in ubuntu,how do i install it
[07:48] <musik> NigelS: thx....guess i'll go with emacs....can u tell me whats diff between emacs & xemacs?
[07:48] <WildZeck> sudo passwd -u root
[07:48] <thoreauputic> n0odl3:  sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[07:48] <Jemt> Greetings. I have installed Firestarter which needs to run as root. Currently I use 'gksu firestarter' to start the program as root. But this program contains a password wallet and keeps asking me to save the password. Does Ubuntu come with another program than gksu?
[07:48] <James> hi folks - I'm still using Hoary and I'm having some problems with the CD burner feature in Nautilus.
[07:48] <NigelS> musik: one is in a terminal, the other is graphical
[07:48] <HappyFool> Jemt: tried 'gksudo' ?
[07:49] <thirso> orbishek: $ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:49] <FatDarel> i cannot get any PDF support on ubuntu what the .. is going
[07:49] <Jemt> HappyFool: nope, I'll try that -thanks ! :)
[07:49] <FatDarel> Jemt, sticky biut it
[07:49] <emgee> Anyone here using skype?
[07:49] <emgee> Can't hear people..
[07:49] <emgee> Other sounds in ubuntu works fine
[07:49] <Jemt> FatDarel: ?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> FatDarel: on breezy the default is the  evince viewer
[07:50] <FatDarel> Jemt, stick bit ...
[07:50] <musik> PJeremy: sorry dude...no idea...never tried to alter those..
[07:50] <WildZeck> FatDarel, ??? i run acrobat reader from adobe acrobat reader
[07:50] <Jemt> FatDarel: What is 'stick bit' ?
[07:50] <FatDarel> thoreauputic, what is it again ..
[07:50] <orbishek> thirso: i dont have internet in linux (modem bug),only online via windows
[07:50] <thoreauputic> FatDarel:  evince
[07:50] <FatDarel> WildZeck, i am on x86_64 that's the problem
[07:50] <ahoora> Nigels could you plz tell me how can i write a simple program to cout a sentence ... i wrote the program but it generates error : cout :undeclared
[07:50] <WildZeck> FatDarel, and ?
[07:51] <WildZeck> FatDarel, all i386 package work on i64
[07:51] <WildZeck> do you try it ?
[07:51] <trappist> ahoora: /join #c++
[07:51] <FatDarel> WildZeck, acrobat jsut doesn't start i type acroread wait a second and then it dies with a SIGKILL
[07:52] <thoreauputic> FatDarel: try evince - it's really very good
[07:52] <WildZeck> try Xpdf
[07:52] <FatDarel> WildZeck, i am on x86_64/amd64
[07:52] <Ng> FatDarel: you should try evince because it is very good. Do you have ia32-libs installed? or did you install in a 32bit chroot?
[07:52] <WildZeck> FatDarel, i run i386 knoppix on that AMD 64 it's works fine
[07:52] <FatDarel> I get an acrorad , then a Abort
[07:53] <FatDarel> Ng, let me check that ia32-libs thingy
[07:53] <graabein> i found a setting for gnome baker in configuration editor called joliet... it's a checkbox. if i check it, will the filenames come out properly and not truncated??
[07:53] <FatDarel> WildZeck, it should I think the ubuntu libs are not all there for me
[07:53] <Ng> graabein: joliet extensions give you long filenames in windows, rockridge extensions give you long filenames and ownership/permissions in linux
[07:53] <orbishek> thirso:does it require internet connection,  i dont have internet in linux (modem bug),only online via windows,
[07:54] <Ng> graabein: generally enabling both is probably the best solution :)
[07:54] <erUSUL> graabein, joliet is for cd aimed at windows rockridge the same for unix. i enable both
[07:54] <graabein> thanks guys, ill try it out
[07:54] <FatDarel> Ng, looks like I got the ia32-libs
[07:54] <Taa5i> What does it mean when it says there are no installation candidates, for something which appears in the apt-get install tab-completion list?
[07:54] <graabein> dinner time. later...
[07:55] <WildZeck> FatDarel, acrobat reader 5.0.9 may 2004 here
[07:55] <Ng> FatDarel: hmm, I would have expected acroread to run then, but not all 32bit stuff is happy on amd64. Looks like you'll be trying evince or xpdf ;)
[07:55] <Ng> FatDarel: or installing a 32bit chroot
[07:55] <FatDarel> WildZeck, the acrobat reader 7 is what i am trying
[07:55] <musik> or buying intel:)
[07:55] <FatDarel> Ng, xpdf fails
[07:55] <FatDarel> Ng, got docks for a choroot 32bit ?
[07:55] <Ng> musik: amd64 is a nice platform, I'm on it now, just in 32bit mode ;)
[07:55] <WildZeck> FatDarel, use the 5.0 version all static build ...
[07:55] <FatDarel> This is going to take more time than I know
[07:56] <FatDarel> than I have  . . .
[07:56] <musik> Ng: im noob....are there any advantages of amd over 1386??
[07:56] <Ng> FatDarel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot should do I think
[07:56] <WildZeck> FatDarel, sudo apt-get install xpdf evince
[07:56] <n0odl3> trappist: where do i find the snapshots when im done taking them?
[07:56] <WildZeck> fast , efficient
[07:56] <trappist> n0odl3: in the directory you're in
[07:57] <trappist> n0odl3: if you do import -window root shot.png you'll have a shiny new shot.png
[07:57] <runedude> hey guys i got a q
[07:57] <Ng> musik: price mostly, but they're pretty nippy, especially if you do run them in 64bit mode
[07:57] <runedude> what iso should i dl for a 64bit on a Intel arch?
[07:57] <WildZeck> acrobat reader 5 works everywhere ...
[07:57] <WildZeck> 7 ... ?
[07:57] <Blissex> runedude: its the same for AMD and Intel 64 bit...
[07:57] <Ng> runedude: IA64 or EMT64?
[07:57] <musik> Ng: i see....
[07:58] <runedude> erm
[07:58] <runedude> im not exactly sure
[07:58] <runedude> i am using a x86-64 processor
[07:58] <Taa5i> Specifically I want to be able to get Colortail, please.
[07:58] <Blissex> runedude: if you are asking, it is not an Itanic...
[07:58] <ahoora> :( somebody help me i dont want to come back to windows .... can someone pass me a simple program that can be complied by gcc ?
[07:58] <runedude> ah
[07:58] <runedude> its prolly EMT64 then
[07:58] <Blissex> runedude: yes, and is the same as AMD64.
[07:58] <Ng> runedude: you can either choose the amd64 one if you want 64bit, or the i386 one if you want 32bit (slower, but more compatible)
[07:58] <runedude> is it?
[07:58] <NigelS> ahoora: you need iostream.h to be included
[07:58] <runedude> hm
[07:59] <runedude> i was thinking of trying the amd64 livecd
[07:59] <runedude> to test comptability
[07:59] <ahoora> Nigels i have already included it
[07:59] <sorush20> guys all flash content seems to be infront of my other web page content in firefox what should I do?
[07:59] <trappist> ahoora: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~rhoads/Obfuscated_C/12bugs.of.c
[07:59] <Blissex> runedude: it is almost identical, so the same binaries work on botjh, it just requires a tiny few changes in the kernel, and they both there.
[07:59] <runedude> also, if i burn the amd64 iso image to a dvdr, can i boot via a dvd drive?
[07:59] <Blissex> runedude: ideally yes...
[07:59] <Blissex> runedude: unless the DVD drive is _really_ old.
[07:59] <runedude> no
[07:59] <runedude> its new
[07:59] <runedude> i just got this computer in august
[08:00] <runedude> i guess its worth a shot
[08:00] <runedude> so
[08:00] <runedude> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso
[08:00] <runedude> would be good?
[08:00] <Ng> runedude: the amd64 version is fine if you don't care too much about windows video formats and running commercial binary software. Many things can be made to work with the 32bit compatibility libs you can install, or there is the option to have a 32bit parallel install, but that can be a little messy
[08:00] <Ng> runedude: yep
[08:01] <runedude> okay
[08:01] <runedude> thanks
[08:01] <smi|e> hi all
[08:01] <smi|e> just come home from work
[08:01] <smi|e> ://
[08:01] <NigelS> ahoora: #include <iostream.h> int main( void ) { cout << "test string\n"; return 0; } and then g++ ./<file> -o <outputname>
[08:01] <smi|e> anyone need support?
[08:01] <musik> i do:)
[08:01] <matw> Hi, how can I get a list of packages available from 'universe' only?
[08:01] <smi|e> musik: how can i help
[08:01] <musik> i cant install dvdrip.......says depends on transcode.....but not going to be installed......
[08:01] <smi|e> matw load synaptic
[08:01] <musik> smi|e: i cant install dvdrip.......says depends on transcode.....but not going to be installed......
[08:02] <matw> got that, but it shows from 'main' also
[08:02] <smi|e> musik: sudo apt-get install dvdrip
[08:02] <smi|e> matw: use filter
[08:02] <matw> I want 'universe' only
[08:02] <matw> filter is in synaptic?
[08:02] <smi|e> matw should be in settings/preferences
[08:02] <smi|e> matw sure is
[08:02] <matw> ok thanks let me try it
[08:02] <smi|e> matw:  your welcome
[08:03] <smi|e> musik: it work?
[08:04] <musik> following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:04] <musik>   dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not installable
[08:04] <musik> E: Broken packages
[08:04] <smi|e> not sure
[08:04] <musik> smi|e: im on hoary....using hoary sources.list which ubotu gave
[08:04] <budluva> anyone here familiar with installing winecvs via linux-gamers.net WineCVS.sh?
[08:04] <smi|e> musik: update too breezy
[08:04] <smi|e> most things work better on breezy
[08:04] <smi|e> hi apokryphos
[08:04] <budluva> just wondering if i need the actual wine package installed?
[08:05] <apokryphos> smi|e: hi
[08:05] <No1Viking> Are there any new guide, like ubuntuguide.org for Breezy out there?
[08:05] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I could use some help.  I wish to install colortail, but apt-get says it has no installation candidate, despite it showing up in the apt-get install tab-completed list.  How might I resolve this, please?
[08:05] <musik> smi|e: i tried kubutnu breezy.....too slow for me.....thats why back to hoary...much faster & less buggier....thx anyways
[08:05] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: have you updated your sources.list?
[08:05] <smi|e> musik: ubuntu breezy badger
[08:06] <smi|e> ubotu tell musik about breezy
[08:06] <musik> smi|e: i cant stand gnome:)
[08:06] <Booboo> can somebody tell me how to install programs in gnome
[08:06] <smi|e> musik install kubuntu-desktop on gnome?
[08:06] <smi|e> Booboo: what program you want?
[08:06] <mc|amb> whats the command to unmount a samba share??
[08:06] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I just ran apt-get update a few moments ago, in fact.  I have universe main multiverse and restricted set in sources.list
[08:06] <erUSUL> Taa5i|lunch, there is no colortail package in breezy at least in official repos
[08:06] <Booboo> kopete
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: You on Breezy?
[08:07] <smi|e> Booboo: sudo apt-get install kopete in terminal should do it
[08:07] <smi|e> :)
[08:07] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I am.  Fresh install a couple days ago.
[08:07] <musik> smi|e: did that already.....the moment kubuntu-desktop came...i began having weird probls....like i wud land up in console mode for no reason!!
[08:07] <Booboo> ill try
[08:07] <NigelS> mc|amb: sudo umount <mountpoint>
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: ok
[08:07] <ahoora> NigelS thanks .. i am trying it
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: let me deal with musik
[08:07] <Taa5i|lunch> erUSUL: Curious, when I type apt-get install colortail it shows it as an option.
[08:07] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: give me 5 mins
[08:07] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: Certainly, thank you.
[08:07] <fsmw> jdub, ping
[08:08] <smi|e> musik i use xubuntu desktop - kubuntu desktop - edubuntu desktop
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: that is odd indeed since the package doesn't exist :)
[08:08] <smi|e> all on ubuntu
[08:08] <smi|e> works fine for me
[08:08] <mc|amb> NigelS, thanks
[08:08] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: I would be open to using an alternative that accomplished the same thing, if such exists.
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: apt-cache search and apt-cache policy know nothing about ti
[08:08] <thoreauputic> *it
[08:08] <smi|e> Booboo: did that work
[08:08] <erUSUL> Taa5i|lunch, another package refers to it, but it is not there
[08:08] <musik> smi|e: looks like im not so lucky..others are also having same prob with kubuntu breezy....im waiting for dapper:)
[08:08] <smi|e> musik hmm im not too sure
[08:09] <Znarl> Is there anyone here who had problems with the us archive mirror yesterday?
[08:09] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: ok whatsup?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: what does it do exactly?
[08:09] <musik> smi|e: lets just wait for dapper duck:)
[08:09] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: It color-codes tail logs, for ease of reading/monitoring.
[08:09] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: what did you want?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: I think root-tail does that
[08:10] <smi|e> ah thoreauputic is helping ya :)
[08:10] <CookedGryphon> hi, my gdm stopped loading after i tried out kde, it jstu goes to a text login and i have to start the x server myself, where do i set gdm to run instead>?
[08:10] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: I don't quite understand apt, I guess.  Hitting tab in apt-get install foo shows a list of things matching foo, but some of them don't actually exist it appears [eg colortail]
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: but getting root-tail to work in gnome is difficult as nautilus draws the desktop
[08:10] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: use synaptic
[08:10] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: I use E, actually.
[08:11] <arkey> hola, oigan como le hago para ver un disco ntfs, ay estan todas mis canciones?
[08:11] <Taa5i|lunch> smi|e: Thank you, I'll look at that.
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: ah OK - well try root-tail then
[08:11] <smi|e> Taa5i|lunch: Your more than welcome ;)
[08:11] <Taa5i|lunch> thoreauputic: Thank you, I'll look into it.
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> arkey #ubuntu-es
[08:11] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, update-rc.d gdm defaults
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Taa5i|lunch: it's in universe
[08:11] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL thanks
[08:11] <arkey> CookedGryphon nadie contesta
[08:12] <Taa5i|lunch> Fetching it now.
[08:12] <erUSUL> arkey, vete a #ubuntu-es
[08:12] <arkey> nadie me contesta ay
[08:12] <ahoora> NigelS: how can i run the output file ? it makes a.out which is said to be : "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped"
[08:13] <erUSUL> arkey, entro yo ahora espera un momento
[08:13] <HappyFool>  ./a.out
[08:13] <onkarshinde> I upgraded from hoary to breezy. But I don't see that USplash thing.
[08:13] <trappist> ahoora: ./a.out
[08:13] <ahoora> oh thanks
[08:14] <CookedGryphon> erUSUL it says System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist. will it have done anything?
[08:15] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, then it is not a problem of startup scripts for some reason gdm won't start
[08:15] <smi|e> bbl all
[08:15] <thoreauputic> CookedGryphon: be sure the file  /etc/X11/default-display-manager  exists and contains /usr/bin/gdm
[08:15] <erUSUL> CookedGryphon, check the config of gdm and the logs
[08:15] <smi|e> cya thoreauputic
[08:16] <jacktrades> hello ppl
[08:16] <jacktrades> can anyone help me with a problem in evolution?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> CookedGryphon: sorry apparently on breezy it's /usrsbin/gdm
[08:16] <thoreauputic> ?usr/sbin/gdm
[08:16] <fredy> i get an error when trying to install with apt-get, backports repo not available
[08:17] <onkarshinde> Can anyone help me please?
[08:17] <onkarshinde> I upgraded from hoary to breezy. But I don't see that USplash thing.
[08:17] <thoreauputic> fredy: comment backports out  in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <ahoora> i am quite new to linux .... is there any shortcomings if i use gcc in compare with windows compilers?
[08:17] <erUSUL> onkarshinde, ask
[08:17] <thoreauputic> fredy: there aren't any yet
[08:17] <HappyFool> ahoora: no windows.h ;)
[08:17] <thoreauputic> ahoora: rather the reverse
[08:18] <fredy> thoreauputic: thnx
[08:19] <erUSUL> ahoora, Ansi C should work the same in any decent compiler
[08:19] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: install ubuntu-artwork-usplash  (or whatever it's called)  then do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:19] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Will try
[08:20] <budluva> !pastebin
[08:20] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:21] <jacktrades> does anybody have this problem when making an appointment in evolution: "There is no calendar available for creating events and meetings"???
[08:21] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: actually there doesn't appear to be a separate package for the ubuntu usplash - but the dpkg-reconfigure is the key to it
[08:21] <Wombat_Willy> hi
[08:21] <Blippe> hi
[08:22] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: You mean reconfigure the linux-image ... right?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: yes
[08:22] <Wombat_Willy> does anyone know where I can get a copy of libpthread.so.0 and libc.so.6?
[08:22] <Wombat_Willy> i broke mine
[08:22] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: the command I gave will reconfigure the right one   $(uname -r)
[08:26] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: In the output of reconfigure here is one line. "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping..."
[08:26] <dell500> anyone know how to refresh the gnome panel?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: yes I saw that too - it still seems to work though
[08:26] <thoreauputic> go figure...
[08:27] <thoreauputic> dell500:  killall gnome-panel
[08:27] <thoreauputic> dell500: it comes back ;)
[08:27] <Booboo> Smi|e it seems i do not get it, it is my firt time in the linux gnome world, i like it here and i start to hate windows, heheh but can you explain it step by step
[08:27] <HiddenFl1> If I install a program that has dependencies with apt-get and later I uninstall the program, it doesn't remove its dependencies even if any other software doesn't use them, right?
[08:27] <OneSeventeen> I forgot, what's the command to add a user to a group?
[08:27] <dell500> thoreauputic, do you happen to know how to get the fglrx control to work?
[08:27] <trappist> HiddenFl1: right
[08:28] <thoreauputic> dell500: no, sorry
[08:28] <Juhaz> dell500, what do you mean by refresh? menu items?
[08:28] <dell500> Juhaz, ya
[08:28] <ahoora> guys i want to apply chmod to all files and subdirectories included in a special dir .... how can i do that?
[08:28] <trappist> OneSeventeen: sudo vi /etc/group
[08:28] <HiddenFl1> Is there anyway I would make it to remove them?
[08:28] <trappist> ahoora: chmod -R
[08:28] <dell500> anyone know how to get the fglrx-control to work?
[08:28] <HiddenFl1> And propably to check if they are needed by any other package.
[08:28] <thoreauputic> HiddenFl1: right - you can use aptitude - it does that
[08:28] <cusco> hi!
[08:28] <HiddenFl1> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[08:28] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: There is one problem with menu.lst. Whenever I add, remove or reconfigure any linux0image package it deletes any extra entries (ex. Windows entry) from menu.lst. Is there any bug for this?
[08:28] <matw> OneSeventeen, 'adduser <username> <groupname>'
[08:29] <cusco> I need help big time on my network interfaces... I don't know where to start
[08:29] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: woah - scary :(
[08:29] <Juhaz> dell500, they should automatically refresh, as long as gam is working, but when something goes wrong, killing it is indeed the only way to force reload
[08:29] <OneSeventeen> matw: perfect!
[08:29] <matw> cool
[08:29] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: I haven't seen that happen here - maybe someone else can reproduce/confirm
[08:30] <OneSeventeen> now how do I tell what group a folder belongs to?
[08:30] <trappist> OneSeventeen: ls -l filename
[08:30] <matw> seveas, where do I report a FreeNX bug?
[08:30] <onkarshinde> OneSeventeen: ls -l into parent folder
[08:30] <Seveas> matw, if it's a bug with my packages: me
[08:30] <matw> how to send you email?
[08:30] <mclamb> ;asldkj
[08:30] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen, ls -l? nautilus?
[08:31] <matw> or bulletin board you'll see
[08:31] <OneSeventeen> trappist/onkarshinde/erUSUL: cool, thanks
[08:31] <OneSeventeen> erUSUL: SSH (no gui installed)
[08:31] <Fanskapet> hmm what's the name in english for the service connecting your bank account directly to a company's billing system?
[08:32] <matw> seveas, where (how) can I send you a bug report?
[08:32] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen, mc then ;)
[08:33] <OneSeventeen> erUSUL: mc?
[08:34] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen, midnight commander
[08:35] <matw> seveas, where (how) can I send you a bug report?
[08:35] <OneSeventeen> erUSUL: ahhh, yeah, that's in universe, and I'm being a panzy =P  (production webserver, so my boss wants it as easily supported as possible, which means no extra repositories for me :( )
[08:36] <onkarshinde> I am trying to uninstall python. But it asks for whole lot of other packages to be uninstalled. Some of them are file-roller and gdm. I don't understand how are they dependent on Python.
[08:36] <yanqi> hi
[08:36] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: at a guess they are python programs
[08:36] <Seveas> matw, sorry was busy with 3 other things :)
[08:37] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: They probably depend on some functionality that needs python.
[08:37] <Seveas> matw<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:37] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: GDM is not.
[08:37] <matw> thanks
[08:37] <erUSUL> onkarshinde, they are partially written in python??
[08:37] <erUSUL> onkarshinde, or whole?
[08:37] <fatehaze> Anyone have an idea why my "Add programs" doesn't work?
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[08:37] <ubotu> methinks doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[08:38] <fatehaze> Would refuses to work be more accurate?  I click on it an nothing happens.
[08:38] <yanqi> does someone knows if ubuntu works with the livebox
[08:39] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: neither is file-roller. also, 'apt-cache depends file-roller' doesn't list python; must be a second-or-more level dependency.
[08:39] <onkarshinde> HappyFool: That might be the case.
[08:39] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: you might be able to drag and drop from the menu entry and make a launcher, then read the command in the properties, run it in a terminal ( I can't try this as I'm in fluxbox)
[08:40] <fatehaze> k, I'll give it a shot
[08:40] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: if that is possible it might show an error
[08:40] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: Why do you want python uninstalled anyway? There are lots of things that need it, from full programs to simple scripts...
[08:40] <HappyFool> onkarshinde: ah, looks like it might be launchpad-stuff
[08:41] <matw> /etc/apt/sources.list says 'universe' packages are "UNSUPPORTED", but there's a 'universe' security repository? Are there security updates to 'universe' packages?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> matw: yes, they are "community" supported
[08:41] <Tomcat_> matw: They are unsupported by the Ubuntu people. But the Universe community might still deliver security updates.
[08:41] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: I thought that I installed it in hoary. I have upgraded to breezy. But it is my mistake. I just installed some addons. Python was there already.
[08:41] <matw> thanks everyone
[08:42] <fatehaze> Well, terminal says "command not found" when I try to run gnome-app-install.desktop
[08:42] <thoreauputic> matw: that just means Canonical can't support universe directly
[08:42] <fatehaze> In fact, terminal says that for just about everything
[08:42] <tekeo> I want to make auto mount on my sata drive (ntfs) out it into /mnt/windows and do so I can use it with any user
[08:42] <fatehaze> No make either
[08:42] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: You can't run .desktop thing from terminal
[08:42] <fatehaze> Hmm
[08:43] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: try gnome-app-install  ;)
[08:43] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: Are you in GUI?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: tab completion is your friend :)
[08:43] <fatehaze> Ah, ok, thoreuputic was right :D
[08:43] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:43] <tekeo> I want to make auto mount on my sata drive (ntfs) to /mnt/windows and also make it useable with my ordinary user
[08:44] <tekeo> I've been googeling for quite some time..
[08:44] <onkarshinde> tekeo: Breezy?
[08:45] <tekeo> Breee?
[08:45] <tekeo> what
[08:45] <onkarshinde> tekeo: What version of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: to run gnome-app-install you'll need  gksudo gnome-app-install  BTW
[08:46] <sryan> I'm confused..
[08:46] <tekeo> 64 bit
[08:46] <stas> hi
[08:46] <sryan> Someone got a second for a newbie? :(
[08:46] <stas> I tried "upgrading" 5.04 -> 5.10
[08:46] <matw> sure
[08:46] <sryan> configure: error: "cannot find libjpeg support"
[08:46] <sryan> root@argon:/home/sryan/Desktop/hpijs-2.1.4#
[08:46] <stas> and everything is retardedly fucked up
[08:46] <sryan> How would I solve that issue?
[08:46] <stas> NOTHING works
[08:46] <tekeo> I don't know
[08:46] <onkarshinde> !tell tekeo about ntfs
[08:46] <sryan> I tried apt-get install libjpeg but that didn't cut it.
[08:47] <thoreauputic> sryan: what are you compilingand why?
[08:47] <onkarshinde> stas: How did you try to upgrade?
[08:47] <stas> Is there anyway I can fix things? or is Windows for me?
[08:47] <sryan> Hopefully, going to compile drivers for my HP laserjet 4 plus.
[08:47] <stas> I went to "synaptic"
[08:47] <sryan> Everything I tried that came with Ubuntu hasn't worked.
[08:47] <stas> and I changed the "repositories"
[08:47] <stas> to breezy
[08:47] <onkarshinde> sryan: What are you trying to so?
[08:47] <stas> instead of hoary
[08:47] <sryan> I'm trying to install the HP drivers...
[08:47] <sryan> but, they're bombing out due to no libjpeg support.
[08:47] <onkarshinde> stas: Then what?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> sryan: should be included by default - I have a laserjet 6L here
[08:48] <sryan> They are, but they're not working for some reason.
[08:48] <sryan> I mean, the command gets to the printer but it's garbage that prints.
[08:48] <stas> Then, I "Marked All Upgrades"
[08:48] <stas> and "Applied"
[08:48] <E0x> what is the name of package with the all tools for compile ?
[08:48] <stas> and then I rebooted
[08:48] <sryan> I tried everything driver available for it. :(
[08:48] <E0x> build-essencial or something like that ?
[08:48] <stas> and for some reason I got twice as many choices for booting
[08:48] <thoreauputic> sryan: try a different driver
[08:48] <onkarshinde> stas: You should have read the upgrade notes first.
[08:48] <stas> but I just picked the top one
[08:48] <sryan> thoreauputic:  I tried all of em!
[08:48] <sryan> that's why I wanna get this HP driver from HP to maybe work.
[08:48] <onkarshinde> stas: What happens then?
[08:48] <thoreauputic> sryan: :(
[08:48] <sryan> heh.
[08:49] <stas> I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:49] <stas> oh, then it loads
[08:49] <sryan> Gotta be an apt-get for libjpeg i would assume..
[08:49] <stas> but I can't open anything
[08:49] <onkarshinde> stas: Can you login?
[08:49] <stas> x-chat just loads on startup for me
[08:49] <thoreauputic> sryan: it would be a -dev package
[08:49] <stas> so that's why I can use it
[08:49] <stas> yeah I can log in :)
[08:49] <stas> but now that I'm here
[08:49] <stas> all the icons are Xs
[08:49] <fatehaze> What Programming packages should I install to be able to make sources?
[08:50] <stas> none of the things on Applications/System work
[08:50] <matw> syran, apt-get has lots of flags, maybe there's one for "get all dependencies". Just a guess on my part
[08:50] <stas> everything is broken
[08:50] <stas> text is missing from some places
[08:50] <thoreauputic> fatehaze:  build-essential is the first
[08:50] <stas> firefox used to be in Russian, but now isn't
[08:50] <stas> (firefox loads on startup with xchat)
[08:51] <onkarshinde> stas: Open root terminal from applications->System tools and issue a command dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop. This will require a long time.
[08:51] <fatehaze> Er, don't see that one
[08:51] <onkarshinde> stas: Your system wide settings may be lost. But user data and settings will be preserved.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> fatehaze:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:51] <stas> and that will fix everything?
[08:52] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: it's in main - it's even on the CD I think
[08:52] <stas> how do I opn a terminal?
[08:52] <ahoora> can someone gimme the command to dl g++ plz
[08:52] <trappist> sudo apt-get install g++
[08:52] <little_bob> hi. anybody experienced with a iomega rev usb drive?
[08:52] <Seveas> ahoora, apt-get install build-essential
[08:52] <matw> fatehaze: try 'apt-cache search <command>' where <command> is the name of a tool that you want to use, like "make"
[08:53] <fatehaze> k
[08:53] <thoreauputic> matw:  make is included with build-essential
[08:53] <ahoora> thanks i wanted to copy some .h libraries from windows ... some of them are overwrited on linux libs and my g++ doesnt work lol
[08:53] <kvidell> more gstreamer updates huh?
[08:53] <matw> just a general way to find what package somethings in is all I'm suggesting
[08:53] <stas> it says "Cannot display location '' Details: there's no default action associated with this location
[08:54] <onkarshinde> stas: just press Alt+F2 and then gnome-terminal
[08:55] <Arinux> hey all i am new to xchat\
[08:55] <tekeo> it didn't work so well for me... with the auto mounting thing
[08:55] <Arinux> i want to connect to an irc channel how can i do it?
[08:55] <tekeo> the disks gets mounted
[08:55] <Absenth> use /j #chanel
[08:55] <trappist> Arinux: /join #channel
[08:55] <fatehaze> Rockin', downloading now
[08:55] <tekeo> but I can't play music from them
[08:56] <stas> ok
[08:56] <stas> it's done
[08:56] <stas> now what
[08:56] <Absenth> Trappist, you a Chimay drinker?
[08:56] <fatehaze> Ok, here's another noob question: how do I run binaries I download from the web?
[08:56] <Arinux> no means irc server is irc.americasarmy.com
[08:56] <trappist> Absenth: of course :)
[08:56] <Arinux> how can i connect to it
[08:56] <fatehaze> I extract them to their own dir in my home directory, but double-clicking them does nothing
[08:56] <stas> 'stas@spitfire:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$
[08:56] <Absenth> trappist, red, blue, or cream label?  :)
[08:56] <onkarshinde> stas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <trappist> Arinux: that's a server, not a channel.  /newserver irc.americasarmy.com
[08:56] <trappist> Absenth: I'm a red guy
[08:56] <fatehaze> Trying to execute it from the terminal just gives me a command not found
[08:57] <tiredbones> I'm using Breezy and trying to change the resolution. I use system -> preference -> screen resolution. The screen doesn't let any values to be change. How to change the resolution?
[08:57] <Arinux> it says looking up newserver may be u missplled it!
[08:57] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: from the directory where binaries are stored type './command-name'
[08:57] <trappist> fatehaze: chmod +x filename;./filename
[08:57] <Absenth> Arinux, when you launch x-chat the server list comes up under where you set your Nick.  if the server you're trying to connect to isn't listed, add a new one.
[08:57] <fatehaze> Ah, ok
[08:57] <onkarshinde> tiredbones: What is current resolution and what is your monitor size?
[08:57] <fatehaze> Now it just says cannot execute binary file
[08:57] <Absenth> trappist,  I'm partial to the blue myself.
[08:58] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: What have you downloaded?
[08:58] <ahoora> :( how can i uninstall g++?
[08:58] <trappist> Absenth: a lot of people are.  nobody seems to like the white :)
[08:58] <trappist> ahoora: apt-get remove g++
[08:58] <stas> onkarshinde, I did!!
[08:58] <thoreauputic> fatehaze:  chmod +x binaryfile
[08:58] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <fatehaze> I downloaded both ZSNES and SNES9x for linux
[08:58] <Absenth> trappist, I can drink the white, but only after a 750 or 2 of the blue.
[08:58] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$
[08:58] <trappist> 13:57 <trappist> fatehaze: chmod +x filename;./filename
[08:58] <onkarshinde> stas: Is it showing any progress?
[08:58] <tiredbones> onkarshinde, 680x400 and the monitor size 17".
[08:58] <erUSUL> !tell tiredbones about fixres
[08:59] <fatehaze> Still gives me "cannot execute binary file"
[08:59] <onkarshinde> tiredbones: You may want to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions yourself.
[09:00] <trappist> fatehaze: file filename
[09:00] <erUSUL> ahoora, apt-get install buildesentials
[09:00] <tiredbones> onkarshinde, thanks
[09:00] <matw> fatehaze: what are the permissions on the binary file "ls -l binaryfile"
[09:00] <erUSUL> tiredbones, read what ubotu told you
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ahoora:  build-essential  actually
[09:00] <tekeo> how do I install mplayer
[09:00] <fatehaze> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (Linux), statically linked, corrupeted section header size
[09:01] <ahoora> can i delete incluse libraries by hand?
[09:01] <tekeo> I keep failing when I try...
[09:01] <trappist> fatehaze: the file is broken
[09:01] <trappist> fatehaze: or it's not done downloading yet
[09:01] <erUSUL> ahoora, ??
[09:01] <tiredbones> erUSUL, what is fixres?  Can ubotu resend?
[09:01] <benkong2> what is the effect of running a dns server behind a linksys router on my web server? trying to setup ispconfig??
[09:01] <tiredbones> ubotu, can you resend your message?
[09:01] <ubotu> No idea, tiredbones
[09:01] <erUSUL> !tell tiredbones about fixres
[09:02] <thoreauputic> tiredbones:  /msg ubotu fixres
[09:02] <fatehaze> Well, I downloaded it and extracted it from the tar.gz
[09:02] <erisco> where can I get support for a Hercules 3d prophet 4000xt? when I boot up ubuntu, it cannot load the graphical interface.
[09:02] <fatehaze> The other binary gives me something different:
[09:02] <stas> onkarshinde, it finished instantly
[09:02] <trappist> fatehaze: file reports that the header is corrupted
[09:02] <ahoora> i destroyed some of them while using g++ after uninstalling g++ iostream and others are still there .... will i lose something if i remove them by hand and install g++ again?
[09:02] <sryan> mwhaha, it's called libjpeg-dev
[09:02] <sryan> woohoO!
[09:02] <Van-atwork> someone may help me with installing ubunto
[09:02] <fatehaze> ELF 32-bit LS8 executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[09:02] <Van-atwork> it seem not want to partition my server
[09:02] <onkarshinde> stas: Are there any packages yet to be upgraded?
[09:02] <tekeo> can't find package mplayer or mplayer-386
[09:02] <Absenth> I hate waiting for dist-upgrade to complete :(
[09:02] <Earthen> how do i find out what my default gatway in
[09:03] <erisco> is there a general thing to fix this?
[09:03] <trappist> fatehaze: that one looks fine
[09:03] <tiredbones> ubotu, I'll check this. thanks
[09:03] <ubotu> tiredbones: Wish i knew
[09:03] <Van-atwork> poweredge 6400 dell with raid 5. Ubunto seem not want to want to partition it
[09:03] <erisco> or is this something no one has come across
[09:03] <thoreauputic> !tell tekeo about repos
[09:03] <Absenth> can anyone recommend which of the synaptic kernels is best for a pentium-M laptop?
[09:03] <fatehaze> That one gaves me the same "cannote execute binary file"
[09:03] <thoreauputic> tekeo: mplayer is in multiverse
[09:03] <trappist> fatehaze: you're not running 64 bit, are you?
[09:04] <James> Hi I am trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy.  I tried doing this through Synaptic but I'm not sure it worked.
[09:04] <onkarshinde> stas: Try 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' once
[09:04] <erisco> is there a place I can look with relative information about this?
[09:04] <erUSUL> Absenth, i686
[09:04] <onkarshinde> James: And why do you think so?
[09:04] <fatehaze> Nah, I'm running an old iBook clamshell
[09:04] <Absenth> erUSUL, danke.
[09:05] <trappist> fatehaze: a mac?
[09:05] <fatehaze> Yup
[09:05] <James> Onk - well, because I'm not sure I changed the right thing in Synaptic.
[09:05] <trappist> fatehaze: that's why.
[09:05] <fatehaze> Think the architecture is the problem?
[09:05] <James> I went to Synaptic, Repositories
[09:05] <fatehaze> Curses
[09:05] <James> and then clicked on one of the repositories
[09:05] <James> and changed the distro from Hoary to Breezy
[09:05] <James> and then hit mark upgrades, and then Apply
[09:05] <James> and there were only 3 files
[09:05] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: what makes you think binaries designed for i386 would run on a mac?
[09:05] <onkarshinde> James: Paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.
[09:05] <Absenth> where might I locate a "howto" add the ability to play mp3's
[09:06] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:06] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[09:06] <fatehaze> Being a newbie makes me think that
[09:06] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[09:06] <cevizoglu> my logs don't seem to work in Gaim.  Is there a trick to making it work?
[09:06] <erUSUL> !tell Absenth about mp3
[09:06] <fatehaze> If I knew what I was doing I wouldn't be here
[09:06] <Van-atwork> someone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you
[09:06] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: :) Point taken
[09:06] <James> onk - pardon me, but what is Paste Bin?
[09:06] <fatehaze> Am I going to run into this problem with every binary?
[09:06] <matw> fatehaze: :)
[09:06] <Absenth> danke again
[09:06] <onkarshinde> James: Did you first 'Reload' which will update list of packages to be updated
[09:07] <trappist> !tell James about pastebin
[09:07] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: yes if they are i386 binaries
[09:07] <stas> onkarshinde, stas@spitfire:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <stas> Reading package lists... Done
[09:07] <stas> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:07] <stas> Calculating upgrade... Done
[09:07] <stas> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:07] <stas> stas@spitfire:~$
[09:07] <fatehaze> I can assume that I won't find a lot of powerpc binaries floating around?
[09:07] <thoreauputic> fatehaze: use the apt/synaptic system
[09:07] <James> Onk, yes I reloaded, there were maybe 61 files.  The upgrade thing took care of 3 of them.
[09:07] <cusco> does anyone here has a wireless device and uses broadcom 4301 drivers?
[09:07] <matw> trappist, please tell me about pastbin too
[09:07] <trappist> fatehaze: you need to either download source and compile for your platform or download binaries for your platform.
[09:07] <trappist> matw: /msg ubotu pastebin
[09:07] <fatehaze> Oh, so if I make install a file, it'll run?
[09:07] <erUSUL> stas, please do not paste here
[09:07] <matw> thanks
[09:08] <trappist> fatehaze: ./configure && make && make install
[09:08] <onkarshinde> stas: I don't understand why everything is a mess.
[09:08] <trappist> generally
[09:08] <fatehaze> k, I think I can deal with that
[09:08] <James> ok, give me a moment to locate that file for you, and then I will paste it
[09:08] <fatehaze> Compiling zsnes now :)
[09:08] <stas> sorry
[09:09] <fatehaze> Oh, hm, I need NASM installed
[09:09] <trappist> fatehaze: I think you can apt-get install nes emulators for your platform
[09:09] <James> by the way, should that repository have been binary?  I think I chose Source
[09:10] <fatehaze> Can't find package
[09:10] <fatehaze> How can I browse the available apt-get packages?
[09:10] <Van-atwork> apt-cache search
[09:10] <ahoora> how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????         lots of .h files were there
[09:11] <trappist> fatehaze: synaptic
[09:11] <James> I have pasted /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[09:11] <fatehaze> Ah, ok
[09:11] <Van-atwork> someone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you
[09:11] <onkarshinde> fatehaze: nasm is there in universe repositories.
[09:11] <Seveas> fatehaze, or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:11] <stas> :(
[09:11] <stas> ok
[09:11] <Van-atwork> it seem to miss some raid module on the CD installation
[09:11] <stas> back to windows we go
[09:11] <onkarshinde> stas: May be try forums stating exactly what you did.
[09:12] <axel_> i love ubuntu
[09:12] <fatehaze> Sweet, I totally thought "Add Applications" was synaptic
[09:12] <stas> maybe Ubuntu 17.33 airy aardvark will work
[09:12] <Absenth> Van-atwork,  I suspect it doesn't recognize the Raid controller.  I however don't know how to get around it other then perhaps recommending trying "+ubuntu +lsi 5720"  without the quotes in google.....  where the lsi blah blah blah is the make/model of your raid controller
[09:12] <PJeremy> does anyone know what to do so that the ctrl keys can be used to select several files in kubuntu?
[09:13] <James> Onk, from my pastebin, line 008: "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[09:13] <ahoora> how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????         lots of .h files were there any suggestion ? :(
[09:13] <FarrisG> for some reason, one of my machines isn't automatically mounting /home at boot
[09:13] <Absenth> Van-atwork,  I ran into that problem with openBSD on dell Dimension 1850 systems with the LSI SCSI card which i currently unsupported by the fine people out of Calgary Alberta.
[09:13] <UnIData> joj
[09:13] <Seveas> ahoora, install the build-essential package
[09:13] <UnIData>  +f+
[09:13] <UnIData> f
[09:13] <FarrisG> It's in fstab properly
[09:13] <UnIData> f
[09:13] <UnIData> f
[09:13] <FarrisG> but I always have to go in and "mount /home" when it reboots
[09:13] <marie-eve> hi
[09:13] <onkarshinde> James: That line is for source packages. You can comment it. Try command 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:13] <marie-eve> how to start telnetd manualy ?
[09:14] <ahoora> Seveas i remove it and install it again but there is no fix in this directory :|
[09:14] <James> onk, thanks, i'll try that in just a second
[09:14] <ahoora> i moved all files from there to see if any change happens
[09:14] <tekeo> can't play mp3 files from my sata disc (I don't know if I can do it at all)
[09:14] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:14] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. Restricted formats' installation instructions can be found on the RestrictedFormats page of the wiki - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats - click away:)
[09:14] <Absenth> tekeo, I suspect !mp3 will cover it :)
[09:14] <onkarshinde> marie-eve: 'sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start' should work.
[09:15] <James> onk, a bunch of things run through... I get some trouble from a mirrormax hoary backport, and then I get two little error messages.
[09:15] <vaggelis> hi
[09:15] <Absenth> marie-eve,  is there a reason you require telnet over ssh?  (not trying to start a fight, more curious then anything else)
[09:15] <|meheren|> can anyone plz tell me if there is a way to safly remove hardware like a wireless card?
[09:16] <trappist> |meheren|: pcmcia?
[09:16] <ahoora> hey guys  ... how can i fix    my files in  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/ ?????
[09:16] <onkarshinde> James: Okay comment out any backport thing as there is no backport for breezy yet
[09:16] <vaggelis> i have a problem with my usb modem(Crypto adsl modem F200) any ideas?
[09:16] <|meheren|> ?
[09:16] <Absenth> |meheren|,  if you disable the device in the network configuration, it "should" "maybe
[09:16] <Absenth>  be safe to remove.
[09:16] <tekeo> and how to get !mp3?
[09:16] <|meheren|> ok
[09:16] <topyli> i want to build topylibuntu for my colleagues at work. ubuntu, a relevant choice of packages, a theme of my choice. is this possible for the common man?
[09:16] <trappist> |meheren|: /etc/init.d/pcmcia stop
[09:16] <onkarshinde> tekeo: What do you want to do?
[09:16] <thoreauputic> ahoora: maybe you would get more help in a C++ channel
[09:17] <James> Onk, I posted the message I received after typing "sudo apt-get update" to the pastebin, should be up there now.
[09:17] <tekeo> play mp3 files from a sata (ntfs) drive with my ordinary user
[09:17] <ahoora> no help there as well :|
[09:17] <Absenth> !tell kekeo about mp3
[09:17] <theblue> Hi all.
[09:17] <Absenth> bah
[09:17] <Absenth> !tell tekeo about mp3
[09:17] <trappist> we should just put !mp3 on a 1-minute cron
[09:17] <ahoora> mehran tavakol bar khoda kon bekesh biroon ye chizi mishe dige :D
[09:18] <Seveas> !tell tekeo about ntfs
[09:18] <Seveas> ahoora, stick to english in here
[09:18] <topyli> yeah there's another one
[09:18] <x86i> Stupid question. I installed Ubuntu using the
[09:18] <onkarshinde> tekeo: See if gstreamer0.8-mad package is installed.
[09:18] <vaggelis> anyone who can help me?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> *sigh* weekends are getting worse
[09:18] <Absenth> trappist,  that's an AWESOME idea :)
[09:19] <ahoora> sir yes sir
[09:19] <x86i> Stupid question. I installed Ubuntu using the 'server' option, did what I was playing around with, now I want gnome. I've installed with 'apt-get install gnome-core' , now how do I start it?
[09:19] <erUSUL> vaggelis, ask
[09:19] <Ng> x86i: install ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <Absenth> x86i,  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <thoreauputic> ahoora: pay attention to the ops :)
[09:19] <matw> vaggelis: go ahead and ask your question
[09:19] <x86i> ah
[09:19] <onkarshinde> James: Comment out backport url. Close Synaptic
[09:19] <fatehaze> To install SDL I need libsdl, right?
[09:19] <oidia> a graphical ftp server?
[09:19] <James> okay, I have done both
[09:19] <erUSUL> x86i, better install ubuntu-desktop
[09:19] <x86i> thanks, was unaware of that option
[09:19] <Absenth> x86i,  insert an "install" between apt-get and ubuntu desktop
[09:20] <tekeo> hadn't that one installed
[09:20] <onkarshinde> james try 'sudo apt-get update' again
[09:20] <vaggelis> i have a problem with my modem Crypto adsl modem F200
[09:20] <James> ok!
[09:20] <Absenth> x86i,  also you have the option of xubuntu-desktop (xfce4) and kubuntu-desktop (kde)
[09:20] <vaggelis> i canot make it work in ubuntu
[09:20] <Van-atwork> someone nknow why ubuntu doesnt detectd my hardisk SCSI with raid5 during the installation. icant partition hardisk. thanks you
[09:20] <Van-atwork> it seem to miss some raid module on the CD installation
[09:20] <theblue> I'm trying to share a Lexmark 3200 printer on a network, attached to the only parallel port on my system, how would I go about doing this with just the commandline?
[09:20] <x86i> Where might I have found that package, without asking? I didnt see it in the documention
[09:20] <Absenth> Van-atwork,  Which raid card do you have
[09:20] <James> Onk - E: Type 'universe' is not known on line 35 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list   ..... I will comment that out, I guess
[09:21] <erUSUL> oidia, pureftpd
[09:21] <oidia> anyone know a ftp server with a graphical interface?
[09:21] <onkarshinde> James: Instead paste your sources.list in pastebin
[09:21] <oidia> tnx
[09:21] <James> Onk - OK, just a second
[09:21] <topyli> oidia: why would a server have a gui?
[09:21] <jareth_> oidia: gftp
[09:22] <x86i> Another question, to add to my previous. Is there an option to install the ubuntu desktop without all the applications already there?
[09:22] <jareth_> oop... sorry
[09:22] <Absenth> Van-atwork, kinda hard to help if you don't answer questions critical to the troubleshooting process.
[09:22] <Jemt> Hi. I' running Apache2 with PHP5 on my Breezy installation. Unfortunately it is not running very well. When I use the PHP function 'file_get_contents()' I get this error : 'php_network_getaddress: getaddrinfo failed: Temporary failure in name resolution in /var/www/test.php on line 6'. Is there someone who can help me with this odd problem? The PHP script works great on my web hotel.
[09:22] <onkarshinde> oidia: Install proftpd and then webmin-proftpd
[09:22] <nagual> How can i change permissions on a directory to say all read write execute.
[09:22] <|meheren|> so i disabled it now it should be safe to remove right?
[09:22] <trappist> nagual: chmod a+rwx
[09:22] <James> Onk - I have pasted my sources list.  It looks like maybe there was a line-wrap thing, and I should have commented those out too.  (Sorry, I'm new at this.)
[09:23] <puff> I just found this wonderfully annoying image (http://www.myblog.fr/images/articles/img_8406_55938_1.jpg), I'd like to add it to my screensaver options.  How do I do this?
[09:23] <topyli> x86i: desktop, no apps? perhaps installing gnome-core or something
[09:23] <x86i> topyli: I've done the apt-get install gnome-core , but I cant start it.
[09:24] <nagual> trappist, will that change permissions on all subdirectories too?
[09:24] <holycow> novel is hacking away their suse desktop stuff
[09:24] <holycow> thank god
[09:24] <trappist> nagual: chmod -R a+rwx
[09:24] <topyli> x86i: i guess it doesn't install a proper X. try installing x-window-system or some such metapackage also
[09:24] <holycow> they should be offering support for ubuntu frankly
[09:24] <tekeo> some media could not be loaded
[09:24] <tekeo> etc etc
[09:24] <onkarshinde> James: You see your sources.list hasn't changed at all. Change all occurances of hoary with breezy
[09:24] <tekeo> I think something is wrong with SATA
[09:24] <holycow> they have the infrastructure to offer deep services
[09:24] <erUSUL> nagual, chmod -R (for recursive)
[09:25] <onkarshinde> James: Except in first line
[09:25] <vaggelis> where can i find information about Crypto USB ADSL modem?
[09:25] <James> er, oh, I thought it was for that one part only.  okay, I will try that too -- leaving the CD line aside for now
[09:25] <Absenth> holycow, but they would have a hard time explaining to the share holders why they are offering support (which costs money) on a product the stand to make less then a dime on.
[09:25] <onkarshinde> James: Do you have Breezy CD?
[09:25] <James> no
[09:25] <onkarshinde> James: It will make upgrade less time consuming
[09:25] <PJeremy> does anyone know what to do so that the ctrl keys can be used to select several files in kubuntu?
[09:26] <x86i> topyli: Hrm, thanks. I guess I was looking for an overly simple way to get the Ubuntu Desktop, with all the admin features, but minus the 'apps'
[09:26] <James> Onk - yes, I know that the CD would simplify things, but Hoary won't let me burn CD's for some reason.  It's yet another headache, but not what I'm after today.
[09:26] <erUSUL> PJeremy, nothing they Just Work (tm)
[09:26] <hawking> I have a laptop and when I try to install breezy in it everything goes fine in the install. I install it remove the CD and when I boot the computer from the hd hotplug gets stuck ... I have waited for hours tryed again and again but nothing happened... any ideas?
[09:26] <onkarshinde> x86i: Do you mean server installation?
[09:27] <topyli> x86i: the admin features are there without X :)
[09:27] <_basic> is there a guide anywhere for getting jdk 5.0 + swt + eclipse running under ubuntu? i got eclipse+5.0 working, but i dont have any of the swt libraries and i need them to make the gui
[09:27] <vaggelis> NOone?????????????? i am new
[09:27] <theblue> How do I set eth1 to always have a static IP address, using the command line?
[09:27] <oidia> and then? onkarshinde to administrate it? whitch port?
[09:27] <x86i> topyli: Well, I mean like the Synaptics, and all that stuff. Just didnt wanna have all those games installed, dont need any audio software.
[09:28] <topyli> vaggelis: i searched google for your modem and it seems to be nothing but trouble. you need to get a real ethernet modem
[09:28] <PJeremy> erUSUL: well, it doesn't in breezy for me. it did in hoary.
[09:28] <vaggelis> like what?
[09:28] <onkarshinde> oidia: I am not sure. It must be port 80 with url like http://localhost/webmin or similar.
[09:28] <topyli> x86i: aptitude does the same thing in console
[09:28] <_basic> anyone?
[09:29] <theblue> In the console, how do I set eth1 to have a static IP of <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:29] <James> Onk - I changed all occurrences of "Hoary" to "Breezy" (with the exception of the CD, which I don't have (yet)).  Am now running "sudo apt-get update"
[09:29] <_basic> anyone?
[09:29] <hawking> please help me
[09:29] <Absenth> theblue,  it's an "sudo ifconfig" string.
[09:29] <vaggelis> topyli like what?
[09:29] <hawking> I really have to get ubuntu working on my laptop
[09:30] <x86i> topyli: I know, its more to the point, I want the Gnome GUI, without the uneeded apps. Im installing it on my laptop, I have limited space. Was hoping I could choose what gets installed.
[09:30] <theblue> Absenth: Ah, thanks!
[09:30] <topyli> vaggelis: like any real ethernet-aware non-usb adsl modem
[09:30] <Absenth> theblue, unfortunatly, I'm having a dificult time pulling up the command line to get the correct syntax for you.
[09:30] <onkarshinde> _basic: Either download everything from Ubuntu or from original work. I mean there is Java implementation in GCC but it is not 5.0. Similar for SWT
[09:30] <James> hawking, I am too new to give you any advice-- but if it's consolation, my install was a bitch too.  but it works now.
[09:30] <vaggelis> topyli tell me one that can work with ubuntu
[09:30] <theblue> Absenth: By the way, were you aware of virtual consoles?
[09:30] <_basic> onkarshinde: what do you mean? i could suffice with 1.4.2 if it lets me use swt
[09:31] <Absenth> theblue,  if you're willing to read the man page.....  man ifconfig is what I was going to use to determine the exact method.
[09:31] <topyli> x86i: not really. you can use the "server" install of course, and then add what you want just like in debian. well, that's what you're doing right now?
[09:31] <theblue> Absenth: Ok, thanks.
[09:31] <Absenth> theblue, currently in the midst of a dist-upgrade.  the computer is currently only 1/2 live.
[09:31] <theblue> Absenth: Ah, I see.
[09:31] <theblue> Good luck with Breezy, Absenth.
[09:31] <Van-atwork> whats diferent withween breezy version and 5.10
[09:31] <x86i> topyli: Aye, I was hoping gnome-core would do it, but it doesnt seem to have x or anything
[09:32] <_jason> hey guys I have a question conerning hdparm.  If I add a line to enable dma for my drive I should precede each line with # signs correct?  (The wiki does not indicate this, which is why I am asking)
[09:32] <dabaR__> Van-atwork: its synonymous
[09:32] <onkarshinde> _basic: I mean. You can install gcc implementation of Java. Then there is also SWT available.
[09:32] <Van-atwork> o-O
[09:32] <Van-atwork> ah...
[09:32] <Absenth> theblue,  I've got breezy in a couple of vmware machines, and on the desktop at home.
[09:32] <_basic> onkarshinde: would you mind walking me through that in a PM
[09:32] <ahoora> is it possible for someone to zip  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/*.h and send them to me via email ? .... i have lost them
[09:32] <Absenth> Van-atwork, you never did tell me what kind of raid card you're trying to use in uubntu
[09:32] <topyli> vaggelis: hrmpf. well, i have a <topyli looks> telewell something. but they make good and bad modems. ask the salesperson if it works with linux or not
[09:32] <Van-atwork> my ubuntu breezy seem not want to detecte my dell scsi hard disk
[09:32] <Van-atwork> its a dell poweredge one
[09:33] <Van-atwork> sorry. i was on google trying to get to help
[09:33] <Absenth> so an LSI scsi controller, WITH or WITHOUT raid?
[09:33] <Van-atwork> is it raid 5
[09:33] <topyli> vaggelis: my modem is buried very deep because i never have to touch it or look at it :)
[09:33] <Van-atwork> controller raid
[09:33] <James> general question: now that I have updated my source list to refer only to Breezy, and have run "sudo apt-get update," is that it?  Am I done upgrading to Breezy?
[09:33] <Van-atwork> scsi controller with controller raid
[09:33] <Absenth> Van-atwork, if firefox wasn't broken I'd help you look :(
[09:34] <Van-atwork> o_O
[09:34] <topyli> x86i: gnome doesn't mean X. you can run X apps to run them on a remote X server. X is a network protocol, remember? =)
[09:34] <Van-atwork> ='(
[09:34] <Absenth> Van-atwork, I know that card DOES work on CentOS4
[09:34] <onkarshinde> James: No that just updates the list of what is to be updated. Now do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[09:34] <Absenth> Van-atwork, Hoever I'm not sure the driver is built into the installation process in Ubuntu.....
[09:34] <vaggelis> ok bye
[09:35] <paxmaster> how would i find out which of my type drive is using dev/???
[09:35] <James> Onk - okay!
[09:35] <dabaR__> paxmaster: rephrase
[09:35] <James> yikes an extra 200 megs.. but okay!
[09:35] <Absenth> anyone know roughly how much more I have to wait during dist-upgrade if it's currently rebuiling perl?
[09:35] <bolrod> how fast is your computer
[09:36] <James> Onkarshinde, thank you very much for helping me out.  I appreciate it!
[09:36] <Absenth> 1.7 pentium m
[09:36] <bolrod> dunno :p
[09:36] <hexman4> hey.. is there a way for me to change the defaults so that when i open movies via the gui, it opens with another movie player (ex. vlc)
[09:36] <paxmaster> i just a backup type drive and I don't know which drive it use for example /dev/??
[09:36] <_jason> hexman4:  right click and go to properties
[09:36] <Mqueue> can anyone help me with mysql.connect() error please :)
[09:36] <Mqueue> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/apache2-default/testphp.php
[09:36] <Absenth> paxmaster, internal?
[09:36] <bolrod> you have php-mysql or something?
[09:37] <bolrod> dont know the package name :x
[09:37] <Absenth> paxmaster, primary ide, or secondary ide.  first or second drive
[09:37] <jt> hey all
[09:37] <iiiears>  modprobe -l | grep saa1734              Is this the right Syntax?
 yea
[09:37] <bolrod> php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4
[09:37] <Mqueue> yea i have that
[09:37] <hexman4> _jason: k.. thanks
[09:37] <jt> iiiears , for checking for a saa1734 module
[09:37] <_jason> hexman4:  np
[09:37] <bolrod> htm
[09:37] <paxmaster> scsi external
[09:38] <iiiears> jt - yes
[09:38] <jt> yes
[09:38] <iiiears> Thank You jt :0
[09:38] <iiiears> :)
 php4-mysql is already the newest version.
[09:38] <jt> iiiears , if you do not find what you want that way... lsmod |less
[09:38] <bolrod> maybe you're using php5 ?
 yea i'm ?
[09:38] <paxmaster> http://www.usbshop.com/lacait5013ex.html this is the type drive that I am using
 what's wrong with that ?
[09:39] <x86i> topyli: Thanks for the help, I figured out what Im trying to do. I was making it too complicated in my head lol. I just installed -gnome-core and -x-system-core
[09:39] <iiiears> jt - Thanks again :) - Always more to learn here.
[09:39] <bolrod> if you are using php5.. you need to get the php5-mysql
[09:39] <bolrod> :)
[09:39] <jt> iiiears , yep np..
[09:39] <jt> :)
[09:39] <bolrod> I guess
[09:39] <Mqueue> hmm..let me check again
[09:39] <paxmaster> I nerver did a backup with a type I use to do a backup with dvd-r
[09:40] <paxmaster> Absenth: is a external drive u could the pic http://www.usbshop.com/lacait5013ex.html
[09:41] <dabaR__> paxmaster: what is your first language?
[09:41] <jt> !kernel
[09:41] <ahoora> is it possible for someone to zip  /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward/*.h and send them to me via email ? .... i have lost them
[09:42] <Absenth> paxmaster, you "might" be able to click system, administration, disks
[09:42] <bolrod> ahoora: arent they in some package?
[09:42] <paxmaster> urdu
[09:42] <jt> !kernel
[09:42] <Absenth> paxmaster, with any luck it might list your drive.....  if it does it will show you which /dev/xyz# it's located at.
[09:42] <bolrod> Mqueue: you had the php5-mysql?
[09:43] <dabaR__> jt !+kernel if you are trying to tell the channel.
[09:43] <trappist> ahoora: apt-get install --reinstall libstdc++5-3.3-dev
[09:43] <paxmaster> lol i am not using any gui only command line
[09:43] <jt> dabaR__ , nope...i had flood protection on
[09:43] <Absenth> paxmaster, yeah, I'm not real sure with usb devices at the command line, sorry :(
[09:43] <compDo> Are there any tools to play music files in the ape format?
[09:44] <james-t> !+kernel
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.14
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest snapshot for the stable Linux kernel tree is: 2.6.14-git7
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.31
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest prepatch for the 2.4 Linux kernel tree is: 2.4.32-rc2
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest 2.2 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.2.26
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest prepatch for the 2.2 Linux kernel tree is: 2.2.27-rc2
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest 2.0 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.40
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest -ac patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.11-ac7
[09:44] <ubotu> The latest -mm patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.14-rc5-mm1
[09:44] <paxmaster> thx anyway
[09:44] <trappist> that sucks.
[09:44] <james-t> anyone using mortons patch?
[09:44] <dabaR__> omg, ubotu !!
[09:44] <hawking> go ubotu!
[09:45] <james-t> Silencer ,hi
[09:45] <Silencer> james
[09:45] <Silencer> james-t,
[09:45] <ahoora> trappist : couldn't find package libstdc++5-3.3-de
[09:45] <Silencer> who ever u are I don't know u :)
[09:46] <Silencer> anyway
[09:46] <Silencer> hi
[09:46] <james-t> Silencer , :-D i thought you were a bot
[09:46] <trappist> ahoora: did you miss the v?
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> My lappy freezes when I try to wake it up from hibernation: "resume= should be used to set suspend device"
[09:46] <Silencer> Why everyone
[09:46] <bolrod> libstdc++5-3.3-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)
[09:46] <Silencer> think I'm bot ?????
[09:46] <Silencer> here
[09:46] <bolrod> ?
[09:47] <james-t> i think it was because last night i was getting responses from a bot with yoru nick!
[09:47] <Silencer> u mean !define shit
[09:47] <trappist> ahoora: sudo apt-get install libstdc++-dev and choose the appropriate 3.3 version from the list.
[09:47] <Silencer> !define example
[09:47] <Silencer> !define example
[09:47] <ubotu> Silencer: Are you smoking crack?
[09:47] <Silencer> -example-
[09:47] <Silencer> n 1: an item of information that is representative of a type; "this patient provides a typical example of the syndrome"; "there is an example on page 10"  2: a representative form or pattern; "I profited from his example"  3: something to be imitated; "an exemplar of success"; "a model of clarity"; "he is the very model of a modern major general"  4: punishment intended as a warning to others; "they decided to make an example of him"  5
[09:47] <james-t> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[09:47] <Silencer> no I didn't smoke :)
[09:47] <Silencer> crack
[09:47] <_jason> !botabuse
[09:47] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[09:48] <bolrod> :)
[09:48] <Silencer> I'm not
[09:48] <Silencer> bot
[09:48] <Silencer> ppl
[09:48] <Silencer> :)
[09:48] <ahoora> trappist you are the best :D
[09:48] <Silencer> damn :)
[09:48] <klerk> is it possible to have the ubuntu iso extracted onto a different fat32 partition and install it from there?
[09:48] <bolrod> why did you port to dict then ?
[09:48] <Silencer> I'm real man
[09:48] <Silencer> well to define something if I don't understand
[09:48] <Absenth> Silencer, are you saying bots aren't real?
[09:49] <Silencer> Absenth, well they are machines
[09:49] <Absenth> heh
[09:49] <Silencer> :)
[09:49] <Silencer> I'm man a real man :)
[09:49] <bolrod> klerk: I think you can load iso's in the installer
[09:49] <Absenth> sweet, dist-upgrade doen.
[09:49] <Absenth> done.
[09:49] <bolrod> so you don't 'have' to extract
[09:49] <Absenth> now for a kernel patch, and I can reboot.
[09:49] <bolrod> anyway.. I don't know this for sure.. I think I saw it in the install
[09:50] <topyli> Silencer: for a "real man" you make little sense. i'd rather do M-x doctor-mode
[09:50] <bolrod> ?
[09:50] <klerk> bolrod, oh ok... so how do i get to the installer? all i have is the downloaded ISO ansd i dont have a cd burner
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> guys, can someone tell me how to make my laptop suspend/resume properly?
[09:50] <x86i> and, bots have feelings, your insensitive clod@
[09:50] <Silencer> omg :)
[09:50] <bolrod> klerk: owh
[09:50] <Silencer> I'm not real pearson
[09:50] <Theblue> Hi again.
[09:50] <Juhaz> dabaR__, I've yet to see a program that doesn't require a machine to run
[09:50] <Silencer> I'm machine :(
[09:50] <bolrod> klerk: some boot over network?
[09:50] <Absenth> to install the 686 kernel, I'd choose the "linux-686" package from synaptic?
[09:50] <bolrod> floppy?...  does ubuntu have that?
[09:51] <james-t> Absenth , build it yourself!
[09:51] <x86i> lol
[09:51] <bolrod> essential installer things installed on floppy.. .like fat32 .. and installer.. then load the iso ?
[09:51] <Absenth> James-t, that takes more time then I have between now and when I have to leave for the CoLo
[09:51] <onkarshinde> !eclipse
[09:51] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[09:52] <james-t> Absenth , why...dl the stuff and just make all && make install && make modules_install
[09:52] <klerk> bolrod, yeah ive been looking for a ubuntu image file to boot from floppy but cant find anything
[09:52] <bolrod> I know debian has
[09:52] <onkarshinde> !swt
[09:52] <ubotu> onkarshinde: What?
[09:52] <Absenth> James-t, compile times.
[09:52] <topyli> bolrod: i don't think ubuntu can be installed without a CD. install the base of debian woody and upgrade :)
[09:52] <james-t> Absenth , ok
[09:52] <bolrod> topyli: the base isn't on the floppy I think
[09:52] <bolrod> only the installer
[09:52] <Absenth> so back to my origional question, is that the correct package?
[09:52] <mustard5> Absenth, it's much easier via synaptic :)
[09:52] <bolrod> the rest will be downloaded
[09:52] <bolrod> I guess
[09:52] <mustard5> Absenth, yes
[09:53] <topyli> bolrod: that's right. but at least they _have_ floppies
[09:53] <bolrod> (or read from harddisk)
[09:53] <Absenth> mustard5, I agree.
[09:53] <Absenth> mustard5, I'll compile a kernel for the desktop at home.  on the laptop I honestly don't care that much :)
[09:53] <bolrod> maybe you can configure the bootloader to run the installer from harddisk    ?
[09:53] <Theblue> I have an oddball 802.11g card (Hawking Technologies), and I'm trying to install Hoary with it, but it refuses to connect to the DHCP server on my router.
[09:55] <KjetilK> I have a Debian sarge system and a kubuntu CD, and I want to build a list of packages that are in my /var/log/popularity-contest but not on the CD, that would fit on my 1GB memory stick...
[09:55] <KjetilK> I asked a bit about this earlier today too, but have since then found that apt-zip doesn't really do what's needed
[09:55] <KjetilK> any further ideas...?
[09:57] <rr> tying to get via unichrome to work in breezy
[09:58] <fatehaze> What package do I need for gmake?
[09:58] <CarlFK> i want to hook a box to DSL that uses PPPoE user/pass - where do I put the user/pw?
[09:58] <electron_> hi
[09:58] <electron_> How can I make my computer cache ALL urls visited?
[09:59] <trappist> KjetilK: what exactly should end up on your stick?  the packages themselves?
[09:59] <KjetilK> trappist: yup
[09:59] <erUSUL_> fatehaze, gmake? in linux system gmake is make
[09:59] <LjL> electron_: what do you mean? web cache, or something else?
[09:59] <electron_> webcache
[10:00] <KjetilK> trappist: so I could bring them home and not stress my not-very-fast connection more than necessary
[10:00] <trappist> KjetilK: you should just write a little script.  I don't have a /var/log/popularity-contest, so I don't know the format of the file to give you a starting point.
[10:00] <LjL> electron_: hmm i'm not sure what you're thinking about, 'cause as far as i know, any web browser keeps a cache of visited pages
[10:00] <fatehaze> Ah, ok
[10:00] <electron_> Im using Ubuntu box as a server, so when I visit a url on a client pc, I want it to be cached on the server so it loads faster
[10:00] <LjL> electron_: oh, i see
[10:00] <KjetilK> trappist: yup, the format is straightforward
[10:00] <LjL> electron_: well, you should install a caching proxy on the server then
[10:00] <trappist> electron_: set up a squid proxy on your gateway machine
[10:00] <jt> wooohooo making the new kernel
[10:00] <electron_> like?
[10:00] <electron_> okay
[10:01] <KjetilK> trappist: the problem is really resolving dependencies
[10:01] <erUSUL_> electron_, use a proxy squid is the default here
[10:01] <redflames> Hi, just installed Breezy Badger and I seem to have a problem with GRUB... I only get "error 17". Any ideas anyone?
[10:01] <LjL> electron_: i've had limited success using middleman, a relatively easy-to-use proxy that also *pre*caches, i.e. starts downloading pages that are linked from a visited page *before* the user clicks on them
[10:01] <LjL> electron_: i'm not sure if i've explained it decently
[10:01] <jt> redflames , well depends
[10:01] <jt> redflames , what is it saying
[10:01] <jt> other than error 17
[10:01] <LjL> electron_: squid is also an option, of course, but i do think it's quite hard configuring
[10:02] <electron_> LjL, I'm a BSD user so it should be fairly easy ;)
[10:02] <trappist> KjetilK: you could use apt-get -d, which would download the files, once you have the list assembled.  they'd go to /var/cache/apt/archives by default, which you could clean out first
[10:02] <KjetilK> trappist: ah, that sounds like a start, yes
[10:02] <james-t> electron_ , BSD isn't as bad as it used to be :/
[10:03] <redflames> Nothing jt
[10:03] <electron_> bad? lol
[10:03] <LjL> electron_: OK. anyway, i'd suggest you do look at the possibility of pre-caching (wether by using middleman, squid or something else that can do it)... if you need pages and stuff loading quicktly, pre-caching is a neat idea
[10:03] <james-t> with configuring
[10:03] <electron_> Have you ever used OpenVMS?
[10:03] <james-t> i love freebsd
[10:03] <electron_> I run OpenVMS on my DEC Alpha ^_^
[10:03] <KjetilK> is there a list of the packages on the kubuntu CD somewhere?
[10:04] <thirso> KjetilK: you want to install kde?
[10:04] <KjetilK> thirso: yup
[10:04] <LjL> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <redflames> I start the computer, getting past the bios etc. then "Grub loading, pleasse wait... ERROR 17" freeze...
[10:04] <thirso> yeah :p
[10:04] <LjL> should give you all the packages that are installed by default from the cd
[10:04] <panzar> what's the difference between apt-get kde and using kubuntu?
[10:04] <KjetilK> LjL: yup, easy enough
[10:04] <RezDawg> Was wondering if someone knows if I can get my bookmarks in windows and have them for firefox for linux?
[10:05] <bash> Hello
[10:05] <panzar> RezDawg: firefox in windows too?
[10:05] <LjL> panzar: well, kubuntu has a pre-defined choice of packages (not that you can't change that choice later, it's just a choice that's made for you for convenience)
[10:05] <RezDawg> panzar: yes
[10:05] <LjL> panzar: but you can certainly build your own kde environment by installing things one by one, as you like
[10:05] <KjetilK> LjL: the issue isn't KDE and stuff, it is more that I use the box as a development platform
[10:05] <panzar> LjL: ok.
[10:05] <KjetilK> so, it is more apache1, libapache-mod-*
[10:06] <bash> I am new to Ubuntu Can I run Apllications designed for Windows in this operating system?
[10:06] <electron_> wtf is kubuntu
[10:06] <welp> ubuntu with KDE
[10:06] <LjL> bash: yes, by installing Wine. not all apps will work, though
[10:06] <LjL> bash: aptitude install wine
[10:06] <bash> Where can I find Wine?
[10:06] <RezDawg> bash: kind of, there's an emulation program called wine
[10:06] <panzar> i'm having some problems with my current madwifi-driver (atheros), i get disconnected from the wlan after a while. which is the best way to install another madwifi version in ubuntu?
[10:07] <LjL> bash: also, aptitude install xwine for a graphical configuration interface
[10:07] <erUSUL_> electron_, ubuntu with kde instead of gnome
[10:07] <electron_> erUSUL_, GAY!.
[10:07] <electron_> <3 Blackbox!
[10:07] <RezDawg> Was wondering if someone knows if I can get my bookmarks from firefox in windows and have them for firefox for linux?
[10:07] <netdur> how do I send something to my phone via bluetooth... I installed gnome-bluetooth but I can receive only
[10:07] <bash> Where do I find it?
[10:08] <LjL> KjetilK: do you currently *have* the kubuntu cd?
[10:08] <Vorpulus> Hello. I wiped windows from my computer yesterday and installed ubuntu. I'm finding it really difficult to install everything. I find command lines to put in the console such as: sudo apt-get install java-package java-common , but they hardly ever work
[10:08] <LjL> bash: i've told you, "aptitude install wine"
[10:08] <Taa5i> Can someone recommend a good text-editor to use?  Ideally with mdi [eg tabbed] , and not using KDE.
[10:08] <erUSUL_> RezDawg, yes export it in win and import them in linux
[10:08] <Vorpulus> Can anyone help?
[10:08] <farruinn> Taa5i: vim is the only text editor :P
[10:08] <LjL> bash: go to a terminal and type that
[10:09] <trappist> Taa5i: gvim if you're looking for a gui editor
[10:09] <Vorpulus> I have honestly been trying hard to sort it out
[10:09] <KjetilK> LjL: yep
[10:09] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, use synaptic
[10:09] <RezDawg> erUSUL_, i exported from win but i cant seem to find import here in linux
[10:09] <CarlFK> Vorpulus: one problem at a time.  what do you want to install?
[10:09] <Vorpulus> I couldn't find java-package in synaptic
[10:09] <smarco> Taa5i, scite, gui and can run any code
[10:09] <Vorpulus> well I'm trying to install java rigth now
[10:09] <Vorpulus> right*
[10:09] <erUSUL_> RezDawg, is the same as in win
[10:09] <Taa5i> smarco: Thank you, I'll take a look at that.  vi always scared me, I couldn't even figure out how to exit it.
[10:10] <erUSUL_> !tell Vorpulus about repos
[10:10] <trappist> RezDawg: bookmarks -> manage bookmarks
[10:10] <LjL> KjetilK: well... "apt-cache pkgnames" will show the names of all available packages. if you go to /etc/apt/source.list, then comment out everything but the Kubuntu CD, then do "apt-get update", then "apt-cache pkgnames", you should get a terse list of all packages in the Kubuntu CD
[10:11] <RezDawg> trappist, ty, in windows its file>export and i was looking there
[10:11] <KjetilK> LjL: Hmmm, right. But the problem here is that all the operations, up to doing the install itself, will happen on Debian Sarge systems...
[10:11] <nalioth> hawking: you hit it right on the head
[10:11] <trappist> RezDawg: I know what you mean :)
[10:11] <hawking> why does hotplug gets stuck when ubuntu is installed on a laptop?
[10:11] <KjetilK> hmmm
[10:11] <hawking> nalioth: go have fun with someone else jerk
[10:12] <Mqueue> what is the difference between php5 woody packages & ubuntu packages ?
[10:12] <LjL> KjetilK: i see... but, still, since APT is APT on both Debian and Ubuntu, you should be able to put the Kubuntu CD in sources.list even on a Debian machine, and do what i described there... shouldn't you?
[10:12] <KjetilK> yup
[10:12] <KjetilK> probably
[10:12] <nalioth> hawking: excuse me? you made a point of nobody answering you, i confirmed it.
[10:12] <nalioth> hawking: please be polite
[10:12] <LjL> KjetilK: the line is "deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted", in case you don't have it handy
[10:12] <hawking> nalioth : sorry I am damn angry I have been trying whole day
[10:13] <James> hawking - it works for me.
[10:13] <hawking> nalioth : misunderstood
[10:13] <jorgg> what program can i use to connect to DC-hubs?
[10:13] <KjetilK> LjL: thanks a lot, I was looking for exactly that! :-)
[10:13] <hawking> James: what's ur laptop?
[10:13] <James> Toshiba Satellite of some kind.
[10:13] <LjL> KjetilK: np
[10:13] <James> I know nothing about Ubuntu, but I know that at least on some systems it works.
[10:13] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, what do I do with that webpage?
[10:14] <hawking> hmm well people say it is a nice distro for laptops but it doesn't work on most laptops
[10:14] <James> I'd recommend posting to one of the Ubuntu forums -- 5.10 maybe-- as hardware support or installation folders.
[10:14] <Vorpulus> Carl are you there?
[10:14] <James> in order to install mine, I had to put it in the freezer next to the ice cream so it wouldn't overheat
[10:14] <James> but after that, it worked okay.
[10:14] <Vorpulus> I've tried all sorts of stuff on synaptic
[10:14] <Vorpulus> in fact I installed everything on it
[10:14] <panzar> i'm having some problems with my current madwifi-driver (atheros), i get disconnected from the wlan after a while. which is the best way to install another madwifi version in ubuntu?
[10:15] <Vorpulus> and then I selected all the repositries.... then I removed some....
[10:15] <Vorpulus> in fact it's probably a complete mess right now
[10:15] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, you need to add all reositories to get acces through synapic to a lot of software
[10:15] <hawking> is there a forum for ubuntu where I can ask questions and hope to get an answer which I can't get here?
[10:15] <Vorpulus> oh ok erUSUL, I understand
[10:15] <dabaR__> Vorpulus: are you faced with not being able to do something now that you would like to?
[10:15] <_jason> hawking:  http://www.linuxprinting.org
[10:15] <_jason> err sorry
[10:15] <_jason> didnt copy
[10:15] <Vorpulus> and that webpage you gave had a list of them?
[10:15] <_jason> hawking:  http://ubuntuforums.org/
[10:16] <hawking> _jason : thanks
[10:16] <nalioth> hawking: help.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <LjL> KjetilK: but, wait a moment, you do realize that nistalling Ubuntu over Debian could break things, right? i'm not sure if i understood you correctly, but if that's what you're intending to do, then well, you may have a couple of problems...
[10:16] <sunshine82> alt delete how do i force quit in ubuntu
[10:16] <LjL> sunshine82: quit from what?
[10:16] <runedude> i got a few comments
[10:16] <runedude> first of all
[10:16] <KjetilK> LjL: np, I have a new disk I just bought, the old disk will be untouched
[10:16] <Taa5i> Is it difficult to add video card support to a kernel in ubuntu?  It is using the vesa driver right now on a 2m card, but I want to install a riva tnt2 for it to use instead so I can get decent resolution.
[10:16] <runedude> ubuntu breezy == kick ass
[10:16] <runedude> :)
[10:16] <LjL> KjetilK: ok
[10:17] <dabaR__> sunshine82: force quit what?
[10:17] <runedude> second: amd64 works REALLY nice
[10:17] <runedude> ubuntus 64bit support works perfectly for me
[10:17] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, I also get this message when I start up synaptic:
[10:17] <Vorpulus> in fact I get loads of them
[10:17] <BamaWOLF> are there issues with firewire drives or something, because it refuses to mount my fw HD
[10:17] <runedude> and it was my first time using a 64bit operating system
[10:17] <Vorpulus> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[10:17] <ascii1> hi
[10:17] <ascii1> dude
[10:17] <dabaR__> Vorpulus: dont paste here, paste at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:17] <ascii1> how is life
[10:17] <sunshine82> i would like to force an application to when i was on windows i press ctrl alt and delete but how do i force quit in ubuntu
[10:18] <ascii1> nice nice
[10:18] <ascii1> I am aciii
[10:18] <runedude> sunshine82: i guess im terminal do ps aux | grep program then kill pid
[10:18] <ascii1> rock and roll babys
[10:18] <erUSUL_> Taa5i, use the nv driver instead of vesa. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <nalioth> sunshine82: alt-f2, type xkill and the next thing your mouse touches will go away
[10:18] <ascii1> dude man
[10:18] <Vorpulus> OK, but do you know how to get rid of that problem dabaR?
[10:18] <jorgg> what program can i use to connect to DC-hubs?
[10:18] <ascii1> what u talking about
[10:18] <CarlFK> Linux box hooked directly to SBC dsl - where do I put the PPPoE user/pw ?
[10:18] <LjL> sunshine: well, i usually do it from the console (using ps aux and kill), but in KDE at least, clicking on the X button on a window will kill the application if it doesn't quit by itself after a certain time
[10:18] <dabaR__> nalioth: please get ridf of him
[10:18] <ascii1> use FreeBSD
[10:18] <erUSUL_> sunshine82, xkill
[10:18] <LjL> sunshine: also, i don't remember whether in KDE or Gnome, there is an applet you can put on your panels that will let you kill apps
[10:18] <ascii1> it overtakes all u linux mushies
[10:19] <nalioth> ascii1: this is an ubuntu help channel, if you'd like to discuss music, character encoding and other stuff, use #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:19] <ascii1> FreeBSD
[10:19] <ascii1> is GOD!
[10:19] <runedude> for servers, yeh.
[10:19] <linkrjh> Anybody know how to install a file from Mac source?
[10:19] <linkrjh> Or whatever
[10:19] <dabaR__> nalioth: lol@discussing character encoding.
[10:20] <nalioth> linkrjh: explain further, please
[10:20] <LjL> sunshine82: actually... i'm in KDE, but i *think* in Gnome you can just right-click on a window or something similar, and there will be a "kill" menu option somewhere
[10:20] <linkrjh> I want to run a mac program, and someone changed the filetype so I could see it's content, but it doesn't work like regular from source Linux files
[10:20] <Taa5i> erUSUL_: Thank you, I'll try that.  [Do I do this after installing the new card?]
[10:20] <nalioth> linkrjh: is it a mac binary?
[10:20] <erUSUL_> Taa5i, which is the new card?
[10:20] <LjL> sunshine82: also, in KDE i can do Ctrl+Esc, and a task list will appear, and i can kill tasks from there
[10:20] <linkrjh> How do I check, Nalioth?
[10:20] <Taa5i> erUSUL_: The new card is a Riva TNT2, it currently has an Cirrus Logic 5480 which has a max of 800x600
[10:21] <nalioth> linkrjh: in  a terminal, type "file mac_file_name.file"
[10:21] <foxiness> what you use to test other distro on top of ubuntu ?
[10:21] <_jason> nalioth:  why is it that I define "forums" for ubotu but he returns something else? (on the ubotu website I verified it was set)
[10:21] <runedude> hey guys
[10:21] <runedude> got a q
[10:21] <LjL> foxiness: you could use QEmu, if i've understood what you mean
[10:21] <LjL> foxiness: that's a PC emulator
[10:21] <runedude> Why is a DVD disk better to install from than a regular CD one?
[10:21] <foxiness> LjL, yah i mean like that
[10:21] <nalioth> _jason: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:22] <dabaR__> runedude: cause someone has a slower internet connection, and can get a dvd from a friend.
[10:22] <runedude> hm
[10:22] <BamaWOLF> it mounts my drive just fine if i connect it with usb, but with fw, it won't even see it
[10:22] <runedude> i see
[10:22] <runedude> dabaR__: would the DVD include more packages?
[10:22] <odie5533> Why does Ubuntu use evolution and not thunderbird?
[10:22] <LjL> foxiness: you could also use VMWare, which is faster, but not free... also, there is an "accelerator module" for QEmu (look on the QEmu site) that's free, but not open-source
[10:22] <foxiness> LjL, i use qemu before but its solw and i know vmware but its so expensve and i think if i can i will try xen
[10:22] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, do I just copy those lines one by one and paste them into the APT line 'box'?
[10:23] <sunshine82> nalioth xkill isnt workin im tryin to get ride of mplayer i change the end name of a file mpg to avi and try to play it now i have 5 mplayer on my screen
[10:23] <dabaR__> runedude: would you use a dvd if was not larger than a cd?
[10:23] <erUSUL_> Taa5i, then yes run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after installing the card
[10:23] <mustard5> runedude, if you are tallking about the ubuntu DVD, its just a liveCD and install CD combined
[10:23] <runedude> dabaR__: dont know
[10:23] <runedude> ah
[10:23] <runedude> okay then
[10:23] <runedude> nvm :) ill use a regular CD
[10:23] <nalioth> sunshine82: in a terminal, type "killall mplayer"
[10:23] <LjL> foxiness: you should probably try the QEmu accelerator. VMWare is faster basically because it doesn't emulate the CPU, while QEmu normally does... but with the acceleator module, it doesn't anymore
[10:23] <nalioth> Vorpulus: what are you doing?
[10:23] <Juhaz> mustard5, runedude, no it's not, the dvd DOES have more packages than the install cd, in addition to having the live included
[10:23] <sunshine82> nalioth it givin me an error no process for mplayer
[10:23] <mustard5> Juhaz, its news to me....ok :)
[10:23] <Vorpulus> nalioth, well I was initially trying to install java for Mozilla
[10:23] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor and add the lines you do not have
[10:24] <nalioth> sunshine82: in a terminal, "ps aux|grep mplayer", find the PIDs and use them to kill it
[10:24] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, you can swap your sources.list with the one in the wiki (make a buckup of yours)
[10:24] <BamaWOLF> ?
[10:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about javadeb
[10:25] <angelwratton> any nice boys out there plz talk  to me i'm so bored
[10:25] <crimsun> angelwratton: way offtopic.
[10:25] <bolrod> ?
[10:25] <bolrod> why nice boys?
[10:26] <nalioth> angelwratton: look for love in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:26] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, I'm a real newbie... Is that something I find it console?
[10:26] <linkrjh> linkrjh@ubuntu:~/Yasse$ ls
[10:26] <linkrjh> Avalon 3  gpl.txt             __MACOSX    Scripts  yasse-3.2.1.zip
[10:26] <linkrjh> Avalon 4  important news.txt  readme.txt  src
[10:26] <linkrjh> linkrjh@ubuntu:~/Yasse$
[10:26] <angelwratton> you know what bit me
[10:26] <linkrjh> =(
[10:26] <nalioth> Vorpulus: read what ubotu priv messaged you about java
[10:26] <hawking> can someone help me for a second with a text ? I found some assistance about my laptop but didn't understand a sentence
[10:26] <slew> ok i've been struggling with the java plugin for firefox for a while now, and even following the directoins on the java webpage it doesnt work. is there a diffrent way to install this plugin?
[10:26] <Vorpulus> ok nalioth
[10:26] <nalioth> angelwratton: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <erUSUL_> Vorpulus, yes
[10:26] <bolrod> wow.. there is an ubuntu-offtopic too
[10:26] <crimsun> slew: what isn't working?
[10:27] <dabaR__> linkrjh: please use pastebin
[10:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slew about javadeb
[10:27] <erUSUL_> hawking, ask
[10:27] <slew> the java plugin for firefox
[10:27] <hawking> quoting: "one of them was probably kernel related, snd-hda-intel sound module refused to work with my sound controller, and I've googled that this was fixed in 2.6.13-rc3. So I just grabbed vanilla <IP_ADDRESS> from kernel.org, built it,"
[10:27] <crimsun> slew: have you read the faq that nalioth just pointed you to?
[10:27] <hawking> erusul_: what is meant with vanilla <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:27] <crimsun> hawking: it's the third patchlevel for 2.6.13
[10:27] <Toran> How would I install a gtk theme in kubuntu?
[10:28] <erUSUL_> hawking, vanilla is the kernel from kernel.org
[10:28] <nalioth> slew: check your messages
[10:28] <erUSUL_> hawking, whithout ubuntu patches
[10:28] <hawking> crimsun : hmm so can you tell me what exactly should I download?
[10:28] <slew> nalioth, im waiting for the page to load..
[10:28] <hawking> I don't want to do anythin wrong
[10:28] <|meheren|> hi i was wondering what you would put instead of spaces in the terminal when the file name has spaces
[10:29] <bolrod> \
[10:29] <bolrod> before the space
[10:29] <hawking> erUSUL_: so do i have to get ubuntu patches too?
[10:29] <|meheren|> ok thx
[10:29] <fanopnaic> |meheren|: like backslash-space
[10:29] <bolrod> yes.. escape character
[10:29] <|meheren|> ok thx fanopnaic
[10:29] <erUSUL_> hawking, no need i use a vanilla kernel myself 2.6.14
[10:29] <bolrod> \'  should be a '
[10:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell |meheren| about cli
[10:29] <bolrod> and \(
[10:29] <angelwratton> i'm so bored
[10:29] <bolrod> and stuff
[10:29] <bolrod> angelwratton: I noticed
[10:29] <bolrod> angelwratton: me too
[10:29] <crimsun> hawking: you're better off just building alsa-driver 1.0.10rc2
[10:29] <angelwratton> lol
[10:29] <bolrod> need some help with something ?... or why are you here
[10:30] <bolrod> :)
[10:30] <slew> nalioth, this page doesnt seem to load
[10:30] <nalioth> angelwratton: bolrod: y'all go to #ubuntu-offtopic and be bored together, please
[10:30] <bolrod> I am in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <mustard5> |meheren|, alternatively you could use tab key autocompletion feature of your terminal
[10:30] <foxiness> LjL, i have the qemu install it on hoary before i get upgarde on breezy i want to uninstall it ,its not deb its by make make install
[10:30] <nalioth> slew: it appears his site is down atm
[10:30] <slew> sad
[10:30] <slew> =[
[10:30] <hawking> crimsun : well this is a specific problem for my laptop and this text is the only one I have found on the net which has found a solution to that
[10:30] <nalioth> slew: that deb will fix you up no muss no fuss
[10:31] <slew> sweet
[10:31] <hawking> I'll try that first and if not I'll get alsa 1.10
[10:31] <foxiness> LjL, and is there easy way to install accelerator on breezy ?
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> i have the ubuntu iso but not installed on a cd.. can i make apt-cdrom see it or make apt recognise the iso on a loop device?
[10:31] <crimsun> hawking: it's much easier to compile ALSA 1.0.10rc2
[10:31] <_lamb> exit
[10:31] <hawking> crimsun : but is it definite that it will solve the prob?
[10:31] <_lamb> PART #ubuntu
[10:31] <crimsun> hawking: what is the problem?
[10:31] <crimsun> hawking: you have failed to state it clearly
[10:31] <hav0k> does anyone know how to set up their ipod?
[10:31] <bolrod> wtf..
[10:32] <bolrod> yes
[10:32] <lsuactiafner> foxiness : try prozilla.. though most websites block simultaneous connections these days
[10:32] <foxiness> lsuactiafner, i think yes i see my friedn do this with debian
[10:32] <crimsun> there about sixteen major hda-intel issues
[10:32] <sunshine82> nalioth ok what the pid i di that aux thing i can see it but how do i kill it
[10:32] <bolrod> hav0k: format it in windows... would be easiest I guess
[10:32] <slew> nalioth, in the mean time should i delete the java stuff ive tried to install?
[10:32] <angelwratton> how do i get there it is my frist timeon this chat?
[10:32] <hawking> crimsun: I install ubuntu without any problems but when I boot it it gets stuck : starting hotplug line on start-up
[10:32] <nalioth> sunshine82: kill -9 PID
[10:32] <hav0k> bolrod, i dont have windows... and how would i format it?
[10:32] <bolrod> angelwratton: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <angelwratton> how?
[10:33] <nalioth> slew: if you dont have a use for multiple types of java, yes, otw
[10:33] <bolrod> hav0k: I haven't formatted it in linux
[10:33] <foxiness> lsuactiafner, accelerator on qemu
[10:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell slew about multijava
[10:33] <sunshine82> nalioth what is -9
[10:33] <bolrod> hav0k: you could try the qtparted..  easier then parted
[10:33] <hav0k> bolrod, so you got yours to work?  cause my roomate has windows...
[10:33] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[10:33] <crimsun> hawking: yes, but which of two issues is that?
[10:33] <bolrod> oh
[10:33] <bolrod> yeah.. I just installed it with windows
[10:33] <slew> nalioth, just wanna be able to play pool now and then with my girl on yahoo games.
[10:33] <sunshine82> nalioth 26790  0.0  5.2  43392 20456 ?
[10:33] <bolrod> also dont know how to upgrade firmware in linux
[10:33] <foxiness> hav0k, i like gparted
[10:33] <sunshine82> nalioth i mean is that need to be replace for somethin else
[10:34] <crimsun> hawking: did the kernel OOPS, or is it just spinning trying to enumerate the mixer elements?
[10:34] <mustard5> angelwratton, you picked the wrong channel to join for idle chit chat..you are in a technical support channel ;)
[10:34] <hav0k> foxiness, so i should do that with my ipod?  if i do format it, doesnt that take off all the ipod stuff, like firmware?
[10:34] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[10:34] <KjetilK> BTW, does anybody know by any chance if I can get to aptitude's list of "obsolete packages" easily?
[10:34] <CaNsA> what would stop my desktop from loading after logging in?
[10:34] <nalioth> angelwratton: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:34] <bolrod> hav0k: if you format the wrong partition.. yes
[10:34] <crimsun> hawking: in either case, moving to ALSA 1.0.10rc2 resolves it
[10:34] <nalioth> CaNsA: please watch your enter key
[10:34] <hawking> crimsun: hmm ok I'll try that
[10:34] <CaNsA> k
[10:34] <bolrod> hav0k: but I suggest running it with windows before using it with linux
[10:34] <hav0k> bolrod, oh, so there should be two partitions on it... one for the firmware and one with the main music stuff
[10:34] <LjL> foxiness: sorry for not replying, i was smoking a cig... anyway, i don't really know about installing the acceleartor on breezy, didn't try. maybe it's in restriced
[10:35] <bolrod> hav0k: indeed
[10:35] <LjL> foxiness: no it doesn't seem to be there, i suppose you should get the stuff from the home page :-\
[10:35] <hav0k> bolrod, yeah, i did have it running and working with my windows, but i can't get it to work on here, with say, gtkpod
[10:35] <Vorpulus> erUSUL, I've found the file and made a backup on my desktop. Can I literally just replace the content of the file with lines 3 to 21 on that website?
[10:35] <nalioth> LjL: one needs to get it from the qemu homepage
[10:35] <bolrod> hav0k: can you get it mounted?
[10:35] <foxiness> LjL, hah
[10:35] <hav0k> the whole linux deal is having a hard time mounting it
[10:35] <hawking> crimsun : where can i get alsa?
[10:35] <bolrod> oh
[10:35] <hav0k> exactly, i try to mount it but i town
[10:35] <bolrod> does it connect correctly
[10:35] <Vorpulus> nalioth, that link doesn't seem to work
[10:35] <hawking> crimsun: does the repos have alsa 1.10?
[10:36] <z0unds> hi do i need to add some special source to download "nero linux" - synaptic says it dosnt have an avaiable version but exist in the database ..
[10:36] <hav0k> bolrod, as in, like i plugged it in?
[10:36] <LjL> foxiness: also, i know there is kqemu for configuring qemu graphically under kde (dunno if there's a gnome equivalent), but that's not packaged in ubuntu either
[10:36] <bolrod> hav0k: connect it..  and look in    /var/log/syslog
[10:36] <bolrod> or something
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : last night i was asked what the ubuntu tool to configure the netowkr? the user had to ifconfig after bootup to get the eth0 to work
[10:36] <bolrod> no
[10:36] <nalioth> Vorpulus: yes, i've discoverd that. the site appears to be down
[10:36] <bolrod>  /var/log/messages
[10:36] <hav0k> bolrod, okay
[10:36] <crimsun> hawking: no, they don't. You have to download it manually.
[10:36] <marie_> hello
[10:36] <hawking> crimsun: from?
[10:36] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: network-admin
[10:36] <crimsun> hawking: you'll need to the build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and gcc-3.4 packages installed
[10:36] <marie_> french
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[10:36] <crimsun> hawking: alsa-project.org
[10:37] <bolrod> hav0k: anyway.. one of those..  tail -f should be easiest
[10:37] <marie_> juuytg
[10:37] <hav0k> bolrod, huh?
[10:37] <bolrod> angelwratton: hard time having understanding yor irc?
[10:37] <bolrod>   tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:37] <hav0k> okay
[10:37] <bolrod> probably
[10:37] <Vorpulus> nalioth, do you know if I can just replace the stuff in sources.list with the text on the webpage erUSUL gave me?
[10:37] <hawking> crimsun : th
[10:37] <hawking> x
[10:37] <bolrod> if nothing appears.. it was the syslog ;p
[10:37] <foxiness> LjL, i will try to install it from source "i dont like this way :(" but some time i can
[10:37] <angelwratton> WHAT?
[10:37] <Vorpulus> (am I allowed to post the link in here?)
[10:37] <hav0k> well, in both it say ssd_mod: loaded sucessfully (for disk)
[10:38] <bolrod> angelwratton: nothing...
[10:38] <mustard5> Vorplus, you talking about source-o-matic generated sources.list?
[10:38] <angelwratton> oh ok
[10:38] <LjL> foxiness: well, you can't really install everything from source, as there *is* no source for the accelerator module anyway ;)
[10:38] <hawking> crimsun : and is there a better solution than building the ipw2200 wireless kernel module or is it the only way?
[10:38] <bolrod> angelwratton: write thiss     /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:38] <|meheren|> can you get macromidia flash player for ubuntu?
[10:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Vorpulus about sources
[10:38] <|meheren|> i checked wiki but can not find it
[10:38] <foxiness> LjL, haha
[10:38] <bolrod> yes
[10:38] <bolrod> just open some site with flash
[10:38] <Vorpulus> mustard5, I have no idea. It's something called pastebin or something
[10:38] <bolrod> and firefox asks to download flash
[10:38] <|meheren|> oh really?
[10:38] <Vorpulus> two somethings.... sounds bad
[10:38] <crimsun> hawking: why do you need to do that? It's already built.
[10:38] <bolrod> shockwave doesn't work though
[10:38] <|meheren|> ok
[10:38] <hav0k> yet when i go to mount it, it says its unable to mount and gives me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[10:38] <hav0k>        missing codepage or other error
[10:38] <hav0k>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:38] <hav0k>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:39] <nalioth> hav0k: dont paste in here, please
[10:39] <mustard5> Vorpulus, what is the URL of the pastebin you are viewing?
[10:39] <|meheren|> so you can't get shckwave?
[10:39] <hav0k> nalioth, okay
[10:39] <Vorpulus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[10:39] <|meheren|> shockwave?
[10:39] <bolrod> no non onono
[10:39] <nalioth> |meheren|: shockwave doesnt exist for linux yet
[10:39] <mustard5> Vorpulus, looking now..
[10:39] <|meheren|> ok
[10:39] <bolrod> the sdb1 is the firmware
[10:39] <bolrod> sdb2 is the one you want
[10:39] <|meheren|> what if u use the windows versin with wine?
[10:39] <bolrod> I think
[10:39] <hav0k> ok, well how do i change it?
[10:39] <nalioth> |meheren|: then have fun
[10:40] <Vorpulus> thanks mustard5
[10:40] <|meheren|> ok
[10:40] <bolrod> |meheren|: anyway... more sites use flash then shockwave
[10:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, just to confirm..you are on breezy?
[10:40] <LjL> foxiness: anyway, there are intel binaries on the site, as .tar.gz... why not give a try with those before going with compile
[10:40] <bolrod> but possibly you 'could'
[10:40] <bolrod> but you dont want that I think
[10:40] <|meheren|> yeh i know games use shockwave manly
[10:40] <Vorpulus> yes, well... I hope so!
[10:40] <slew> nalioth, i got the deb sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb and it says the archive type not supported
[10:40] <dabaR__> slew: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:40] <Seveas> slew, sudo dpkg -i sun-jre*.deb
[10:40] <Vorpulus> I downloaded it yesterday, and if I understand correctly breezy is the latest version
[10:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, yes
[10:40] <|meheren|> yes it is
[10:40] <LjL> foxiness: i mean, there are binaries in the ubuntu "qemu" package too, but i don't quite know if they are compatible with the accel module
[10:40] <Vorpulus> I'm pretty sure that's what I have
[10:40] <dabaR__> Seveas: when is the next ubuntu community meeting?
[10:40] <mustard5> Vorpulus, that sources.list is fine to copy directly over your old one
[10:40] <|meheren|> Vorpuls: breezy is latest
[10:41] <Seveas> dabaR__, see the agenda
[10:41] <bolrod> hav0k: you can mount the /dev/sdb2?
[10:41] <Vorpulus> yep, so which lines do I copy?
[10:41] <|meheren|> arg
[10:41] <hav0k> bolrod, ill try
[10:41] <Vorpulus> all of them?
[10:41] <nalioth> slew: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[10:41] <|meheren|> im mean
[10:41] <mustard5> Vorpulus, all
[10:41] <bolrod> mount -t vfat /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod/
[10:41] <|meheren|> vurpulus:breezy is latest
[10:41] <Vorpulus> thanks mate
[10:41] <mustard5> Vorpulus, come back if you have problems :)
[10:41] <angelwratton> bolrod e-mail me plz at angelwratton18Yahoo.com ok
[10:41] <Vorpulus> I'm sure I will... :P