[06:45] <dlPhreak> Morning
[07:06] <Squirm> Morning
[07:25] <dlPhreak> Squirm: hi
[07:25] <Squirm> Hey dlPhreak
[07:31] <dlPhreak> Squirm: Happy monday :)
[07:32]  * dlPhreak being hungry af eating ghost pops with chop sticks..
[07:32] <dlPhreak> Red cheedo finger is the worst kind of cheedo finger.
[07:36] <Squirm> Thanks dlPhreak
[07:36] <Squirm> I think
[07:36] <Squirm> Monday...
[07:38] <dlPhreak> Squirm: Monday is what you make it.
[07:39] <Squirm> I got quite wet in the rain on the way to work
[07:39] <Squirm> It's cold
[07:39] <Squirm> and still raining
[07:39] <Squirm> and my jeans are still wet
[07:40] <Squirm> anyway, bbl
[07:40] <dlPhreak> Well that sucks, Squirm
[07:40] <dlPhreak> Have fun!
[08:05] <magespawn> good morning
[08:05] <dlPhreak> Mornin magespawn
[08:06] <dlPhreak> brb coffee run
[08:13] <magespawn> hi dlPhreak
[08:35] <dlPhreak> Went to get coffee, came back with a disgusting energy drink and a big bag of gummy bears.
[08:39] <magespawn> struggling to see the link there
[08:39] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[08:40] <dlPhreak> magespawn: that's because there is none.
[08:40] <dlPhreak> Point is, I don't even know how it happened.
[08:41] <magespawn> hi pavlushka
[08:41] <pavlushka> hello magespawn !
[08:41] <dlPhreak> pavlushka hi
[08:41] <magespawn> one of those day dlPhreak
[08:41] <pavlushka> Hello dlPhreak  :) How are you?
[08:42] <dlPhreak> Pretty swell thank and yourself, pavlushka ?
[08:53] <pavlushka> magespawn, are you missing Kilos?
[08:53] <pavlushka> dlPhreak: I am good, thanks :)
[08:57] <dlPhreak> Does anyone else use shift+insert to paste while typing?
[09:15] <paddatrapper> dlPhreak: Occasionally when I'm pasting into vim, yes
[09:30] <Kilos> greetings inetpro paddatrapper magespawn and other lurking types
[09:30] <Kilos> ohi jerit too
[09:31] <inetpro> ohi Kilos, you been very quiet over the weekend
[09:31] <jerit> hrlloooo
[09:31] <inetpro> and hi to everyone else as well
[09:32] <pavlushka> hi every one :)
[09:32] <Kilos> lots of work to get things going here inetpro and sleep and toilet probs
[09:33] <Kilos> tummy and time clock stuck on za time
[09:33] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy
[09:34] <Kilos> i think plane also messed something up. sleep no more than 2 hours at a time
[09:36] <thatgraemeguy> hey Kilos, how's it going?
[09:37] <Kilos> ok ty that just battling some to settle my system here
[09:37] <Kilos> even the air doesnt smell good
[09:55] <thatgraemeguy> :-o
[09:55] <thatgraemeguy> are you in the city?
[09:57] <Kilos> one of the outer suburbs i think , about 10 to 15 ks from here the farmlands start
[10:01] <thatgraemeguy> mmmm ok maybe their air just isn't that clean :-/
[10:07] <magespawn> hey Kilos how are things there?
[10:11] <Kilos> great ty magespawn ` so much catching up to do and work to get car and house shipshape
[10:12] <Kilos> 2 women alone dont do much ot h=that
[10:12] <magespawn> lol, so a working holiday then
[10:12] <Kilos> yeah but so lekker to spoon
[10:14] <Kilos> and im 80 emails behind
[10:14] <Kilos> sigh
[10:15] <Kilos> but debs is running 12.04 on her ibm lappy now
[10:15] <Kilos> so at least some success
[10:15] <Kilos> still wanna see how it will do with 14.04
[10:15] <Kilos> only a 2g cpu and 2g ram
[10:16] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos
[10:19] <paddatrapper> Such fun just working in a tty... Waiting for update to finish and I can't just browse reddit without additionally installing w3m or something on this server
[10:56] <superfly> paddatrapper: heh
[10:56] <superfly> paddatrapper: set clipboard=unnamedplus
[10:56] <superfly> paddatrapper: then Y,yy,d,dd, etc all use the clipboard
[11:16] <thatgraemeguy> anyone tinker with video editing? is pitivi pretty much the app to go for or did my research miss something?
[11:17] <CraigZim> I use Kdenlive or openshot
[11:26] <dlPhreak> thatgraemeguy: yeah I'd say Kdenlive is the one to go for.
[11:28] <thatgraemeguy> cool thanks will check it out
[11:48] <pavlushka> welcome back theblazehen22
[12:12] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[12:13] <magespawn> comes in late and leaves earl, they already getting to him down under
[12:19] <andrewlsd> morning.
[12:19] <andrewlsd> s/morning/afternoon/
[12:26] <superfly> hi
[12:30] <andrewlsd> \o
[12:31] <superfly> andrewlsd: we need to make a plan dude. Fam leaves end of October.
[12:32] <superfly> andrewlsd: can you consult with your other half and let me know of 2 date which would suit you?
[12:32] <andrewlsd> ok
[12:45] <andrewlsd> superfly: am looking for the dates, checking my mail
[12:45] <superfly> andrewlsd: Cool, shall we take this to Telegram?
[12:46] <andrewlsd> yip
[12:52]  * andrewlsd disconnects again
[18:57] <magespawn> chat later all
[20:49] <squish102> man, the only place i can find F1 downloads of race is in AU. and they seed speed is soooo slow.
[21:23] <superfly> Found a nice completely open source replacement for SimpleNote (and sorta Evernote)
[21:24] <superfly> ownCloud/NextCloud with the Notes and QOwnNotes API apps installed, QOwnNotes on the desktop, ownCloud Notes on Android
[21:55] <kulelu88> I heard ownCloud was terribly written
[21:55] <kulelu88> that is why it was forked
[21:56] <kulelu88> or something along those lines


[04:40] <Alphonseuh> Hey, can someone help me with my graphic card ?
[06:11] <darkxst> Noskcaj, probably just 3.16 for now, but can re-evalate later in the cycle
[08:41] <Noskcaj> ok
[12:32] <alexxtasi> hi all! I am using ubuntu-gnome 14.04 and I see there is the version 3.10.4 of GNOME Shell. How can I install Gnome 3.14 ? Is it safe or it will break my system ?
[13:00] <mgedmin> the best way to get gnome 3.14 is to upgrade to ubuntu 15.04 (via 14.10)
[13:18] <alexxtasi> mgedmin: right I can see ubuntu-gnome 15.04 is released! so the best way is to just install the newest ubuntu-gnome
[13:18] <alexxtasi> thanks mgedmin
[14:03] <LinDol> hi all
[19:23] <Qasker> how are people getting ubuntu-gnome installed on mdadm raid? since the death of the alternative install iso all I see is people using server then trying to recreate desktop using packages
[19:23] <Qasker> but no one quite has it
[22:07] <Spec-Chum> First time ever user of Gnome Shell, chose ubuntu.  Quite impressed so far.  Well don all :)


[00:07] <wolfger> o/
[00:08] <wolfger> Play some disc golf while you're there?
[02:46] <cmaloney> Evening
[14:07] <cmaloney> morning
[14:19] <_stink_> yo
[19:20] <rick_h_> morning...for a few min
[19:20] <rick_h_> no disk golf, so far just playground time and relaxing.


[04:51] <kaushal> hi
[04:53] <kaushal> I have configured openvpn client as daemon mode. I am facing this issue http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/538529/
[04:53] <kaushal> Please suggest/guide
[04:58] <head_victim> kaushal: I'm no expert but looks like an ipv4/ipv6 clash
[04:59] <kaushal> ok
[04:59] <kaushal> head_victim: so i need to blacklist ipv6 ?
[05:00] <head_victim> kaushal: looks like interface tap1 starts off wanting to be ipv6 and then wants to swap to ipv4 but I'm not really certain, that's just where I'd start googling.
[05:01] <kaushal> ok
[05:02] <kaushal> brb after rebooting
[05:22] <kaushal> hi
[05:24] <kaushal> head_victim: i get this now http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/538533/
[05:24] <kaushal> I need to restart the openvpn service and it works fine later
[05:24] <kaushal> Please suggest
[06:08] <firtvid20> Can someone tell me why Ubuntu is very (and I mean very), battery inefficient?
[06:11] <firtvid20> Okay...
[06:11] <firtvid20> Nevermind then.
[06:13] <firtvid20> I don't think I'll reinstall Ubuntu until the battery issue is fixed: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26192/
[06:14] <firtvid20> Yeah, I just installed it and it decided not to play nice with my ethernet cable. So I am unable to install wifi drivers :(
[06:17] <Blank__> :(
[06:17] <Blank__> shame when problems like those arise
[06:26] <hot_wheelz> Hi guys anyone know if this printer works OTB in 10.10 http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/au/en/ho/WF05a/18972-18972-238444-410635-410635-4073314.html#null
[06:27] <Blank__> hot_wheelz, tried googling it?
[06:32] <darkrose> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_estn_c510_series.html
[06:51] <hot_wheelz> thanks darkrose
[06:52] <nisshh> darkrose, you what i did? i called the tax office and told them how evil you were, and they decided to stick you with that bill :)
[06:52] <nisshh> know*
[06:55] <darkrose> wrong channel nisshh
[06:56] <nisshh> oops :)
[06:56] <nisshh> im still asleep a bit today :)
[13:40] <blahdeblah> Sorry for the noise folks.  Hopefully i've fixed it now.
[13:41]  * darkrose wacks blahdeblah with a cement truck
[13:42]  * blahdeblah dutifully accepts the abuse
[13:44] <blahdeblah> How much mess did i make?


[02:56] <pleia2> meeting in 4 minutes :)
[03:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[03:00] <darthrobot> Meeting started Mon Dec  2 03:00:18 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[03:00] <pleia2> ok, who all is here for the meeting?
[03:01] <grantbow> o/
[03:02] <pleia2> philipballew: you about?
[03:02] <philipballew> yeah pleia2
[03:02] <philipballew> thanks for the ping
[03:02] <pleia2> great
[03:02] <pleia2> Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13December01
[03:02] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13December01 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:02] <pleia2> #topic Scale12x planning
[03:02] <pleia2> so this week I updated the wiki page
[03:02] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x
[03:02] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:03] <philipballew> nice!
[03:03] <pleia2> philipballew: should I put in the request for the conference pack and have it shipped to you or someone down there?
[03:03] <philipballew> pleia2, I am working on that part as we speak.
[03:03] <philipballew> have sent a few emails and will be getting all the stuff we can for the conf.
[03:04] <pleia2> ok
[03:04] <grantbow> great
[03:04] <pleia2> let me know if you need any team contact juju
[03:04] <pleia2> any other updates scale-wise?
[03:04] <philipballew> ubucon is filled, and we are working on speaker gifts now.
[03:06] <pleia2> cool
[03:06] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[03:07] <pleia2> anything else exciting going on? :)
[03:07] <philipballew> nothing in my life.
[03:07] <pleia2> hehe
[03:08] <pleia2> berkeley ubuntu hour coming up on the 8th, san francisco on the 11th
[03:08] <pleia2> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/
[03:08] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:08] <pleia2> I'll probably see about doing debian dinner too
[03:10] <pleia2> anything else?
[03:11] <grantbow> happy holidays!
[03:12] <philipballew> san diego is open for the holidays if anyone wants to pay a visit ever!
[03:13] <pleia2> yay :)
[03:15] <pleia2> oh, I added an self-signed ssl certificate to our site
[03:15] <grantbow> nice, thanks
[03:15] <pleia2> logging in to wordpress is clear text in non-ssl, that's not great :)
[03:15] <pleia2> so anyone logging in, please use https:// (even though it warns you)
[03:16] <pleia2> otherwise using non-ssl is preferred for browsing and things
[03:16] <philipballew> alright
[03:18] <pleia2> ok, I guess we can wrap up then
[03:18] <pleia2> I'll send a note to the list re: leadership elections since it looks like we snoozed on that
[03:18] <pleia2> thanks for coming grantbow and philipballew!
[03:18] <philipballew> nice!
[03:18] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[03:18] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Dec  2 03:18:36 2013 UTC.
[03:18] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2013/ubuntu-us-ca.2013-12-02-03.00.moin.txt
[03:19] <grantbow> thanks for chairing pleia2
[04:03] <jyo> pleia2: Yes, I can run the election thing, if needed. Let's chat more at the Ubuntu Hour?
[04:04] <pleia2> jyo: yay! sounds good :)
[04:18] <nhaines> jyo: you beat me to it.  :)
[04:19] <jyo> Does that mean nhaines should be compelled to run instead? :)
[04:20] <nhaines> I'm not the slightest bit interested.  But I'm good at writing emails.  :)
[06:52] <Delsin> anyone online?
[07:05] <nhaines> Delsin: yup.


[01:49] <ScottL> astraljava, i have done my (additional) changes, do you have any more before we ask luke to germinate?
[01:50] <falktx> hehe, funny word, germinate
[07:06] <astraljava> ScottL: I need to do some mods, so I can ask Luke when I'm done.
[17:19] <astraljava> #"£$!‰@ can't get my schroot to work!
[17:21] <charlie-tca> sory
[17:21] <charlie-tca> I am still hoping for the images to work today...
[17:22] <falktx> even if the images don't build, I'll create an ubuntustudio live dvd
[17:23] <charlie-tca> I didn't know you get live dvd's. I thought studio was alternate installer only?
[17:25] <falktx> yes
[17:25] <falktx> charlie-tca: I'm just saying, I can make a custom live-dvd, personal build
[17:25] <falktx> not official
[17:25] <charlie-tca> very nice!
[18:39] <astraljava> Well wasn't that a struggle.
[18:39] <astraljava> TheMuso: I don't suppose you have time to push our seeds so that the image spin gets it?
[18:39] <astraljava> I'll ask on #ubuntu-release just in case.
[18:42] <charlie-tca> oh, I don't know how the seeds get updated, but the change in times for the builds shouldn't affect the seeds
[18:44] <astraljava> It doesn't, but seeing that the images are likely to be built soon-ish, I'd want the seeds to be uploaded so that we could in fact see an up-to-date image even tonight.
[18:45] <charlie-tca> I guess that is an advantage
[18:48] <scott-work> astraljava: you might even ask cjwaton, i think he's done that before for us to fix stuff that he was working on
[18:49] <astraljava> scott-work: Good point, I'll hilight him just in case.  So they're effective tomorrow.
[20:23] <falktx> oh, no worries, if it's tomorrow
[20:23] <falktx> astraljava: so alacarte is gone?
[20:25] <astraljava> I did remove it, yes.
[21:23] <scott-work> falktx: how did you determine no KDE deps?
[21:23] <falktx> scott-work: no kde packages on the list of files
[21:23] <falktx> not even kdelibs
[21:24] <scott-work> right, okay, that's the way i check, i was hoping you knew a better way ;)
[21:24] <scott-work> astraljava: so we believe that removing alacarte will prevent a long line of deps that result with unity on the image?
[21:26] <falktx> scott-work: i believe other packages will push unity too
[21:26] <falktx> not just alacarte
[21:27] <scott-work> but we removed enough packages for tomorrows image that we feel will not ship unity?
[21:28] <astraljava> From the looks of it, it seemed that way. Unity (and gnome-session) brought a shitload of stuff with them, so I'm actually expecting to see a lot smaller .iso tomorrow.
[21:29] <astraljava> But since I haven't had time to re-create the simulation (read: germinate) locally, I cannot be certain.
[21:30] <scott-work> roger that
[21:30] <scott-work> the image today does seem to be about 0.3G bigger than natty
[21:32] <astraljava> Indeed. 2GB is getting a little bit out of hand, even though we're not counting.
[21:32] <astraljava> But granted, everything bloats all the time.
[21:32] <astraljava> Do we care?
[21:55] <scott-work> I'm am less worried about any arbitrary size rather than the incremental delta.
[22:00] <astraljava> I read that as "ever-growing image." So you're not worried about the numbers, but rather that we're bloating all the time. Am I even close?
[23:15] <ScottL> i think that is a good way to summarize how i view the size
[23:16] <ScottL> i don't think there is a "perfect" number or size for the iso, but i think i would worry if we increased 0.3GB every cycle


[11:24] <chocobish> !seen darkzlayer
[11:24] <butiki`> chocobish: I have not seen darkzlayer.
[12:40] <wers> good evening po


[05:03] <Kilos> o/
[06:04] <sweekar> driver for Acer E5-573 for wifi
[09:13] <alter> hi guys whats up?


[07:32] <mup> Bug #1780728 opened: [2.5] Pod usage graphs do not reflect overcommit quota <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780728>
[07:41] <mup> Bug #1780728 changed: [2.5] Pod usage graphs do not reflect overcommit quota <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780728>
[07:44] <mup> Bug #1780728 opened: [2.5] Pod usage graphs do not reflect overcommit quota <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780728>
[11:56] <adham> hello everyone, do anyone why would maas no longer power on/off kvm machines?


[00:23] <mkdmz> phillw: Are you the team leader for artwork?
[00:24] <Tin_man> ls
[00:24] <mkdmz> Tin_man: you get your windows mixed?
[00:24] <Tin_man> yes
[00:25] <Tin_man> how did you guess :)
[00:25] <mkdmz> Are you glad you didn't just put in your root passwd
[00:25] <Tin_man> yes
[00:25] <Tin_man> :)
[00:25] <Tin_man> found a really good manual on terminal commands..
[00:25] <Tin_man> pdf
[00:26] <phillw> mkdmz: nope, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams#Artwork_Team
[00:26] <Tin_man> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxcommand/postdownload?source=dlp
[00:27] <mkdmz> phillw: I somehow though you infered that when you said: mkdmz: you have had that answered from the head of the art work team. As he has taken time out to answer you personally now makes me have have issues.
[00:29] <phillw> that was on Fb / email?
[00:30] <mkdmz> It was here just a few lines back, 'bout an hour ago.
[00:46] <Dirkson> Hey all. What's the non-pae kernel package? Somehow an update ripped out every single kernel from the system.
[00:52] <phillw> Dirkson: there is no supported non-pae kernel for 14.04
[00:53] <phillw> Dirkson: I should know, I build the darn things as a community spin.
[00:56] <Dirkson> phillw: ... Whole damn reason lubuntu exists is for old hardware. Ok, I appreciate that info. Is anyone maintaining a third party repo for non-pae kernels?
[00:57] <phillw> Dirkson: yes
[00:58] <Dirkson> phillw: Hey, that's good news. That's very good news. Link?
[00:59] <phillw> Dirkson:  it is all a bit crazy, for install. use http://phillw.net/isos/non-pae/non-pae.txt
[01:00] <phillw> I'm still working with others on build
[01:01] <Dirkson> Cool. I think I can work with that
[01:16] <Dirkson> phillw: Much appreciate. Works like a charm.
[01:19] <phillw> Dirkson: which did you use?
[01:26] <Dirkson> phillw: "desktop"
[11:53] <dj_beirut> hi i am trying to install lubuntu-desktop on a Lubuntu 14.04LTS (Trusty Tahr)
[11:54] <dj_beirut> i keep getting an error: dpkg: error processing archive lubuntu-default-settings_0.39_all.deb (--install):
[11:54] <dj_beirut> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/lxsession.desktop', which is also in package xbmcbuntu-default-settings 0.1.1~trusty
[11:54] <dj_beirut> any ideas what i am doing wrong?
[12:14] <phillw> dj_beirut: why are you  trying to install lubuntu-desktop on a Lubuntu 14.04LTS (Trusty Tahr) ?
[12:24] <dj_beirut> phillw because what is installed today is xbmcubuntu that is based on a lightweight Lubuntu 14.04 LTS and i need to have a lubuntu desktop in addition to the xbmc
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> dj_beirut: Why not get Lubuntu and install XBMC?
[12:26] <dj_beirut> SonikkuAmerica because i have a lot of things installed and i don't want to go through the installation and configuration again
[12:27] <phillw> dj_beirut: is your home directory on its' own partition?
[12:31] <dj_beirut> phillw i only have one partition
[12:40] <phillw> dj_beirut: I'd advise making a /home partition.
[12:40] <phillw> If you have no personal data you want to keep / have do way of backing up, then you can create a /home partition
[13:13] <pooltable> hi
[13:13] <pooltable> help set bottom pannle to defualt?
[13:14] <phillw> dj_beirut: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[13:14] <pooltable> panel
[13:14] <phillw> pooltable: what have you done to it?
[13:15] <pooltable> to many spaces and missing the app menu
[13:16] <pooltable> also how do i fix this W:GPG error: http://www.duinsoft.nl debs Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E18CE6625CB26B26, W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[13:16] <pooltable> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:16] <pooltable> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:21] <pooltable> hi
[13:23] <phillw> pooltable: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeyServerInformation for signing the ppa
[13:25] <pooltable> still the same error?
[13:26] <pooltable> or do i need to update first?
[13:29] <phillw> has the key imported by using the command
[13:29] <phillw> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu  --recv-keys E18CE6625CB26B26
[13:29] <phillw> ?
[13:30] <pooltable> yes inported
[13:30] <pooltable> imported
[13:31] <pooltable> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[13:31] <pooltable> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:31] <pooltable> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:32] <phillw> pooltable:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:33] <pooltable> hi
[13:34] <pooltable> sorry
[13:34] <pooltable> http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[13:34] <pooltable> http://ppa.launchpad.net/psyke83/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources
[13:35] <pooltable> it does not have precise
[17:00] <Mydim3> hello
[17:01] <Mydim3> wxl you there?
[17:04] <Mydim3> ?
[17:06] <Mydim3> is anybody on?
[17:18] <phillw> Mydim3: I'm head of lurking :) Can I assist you?
[17:18] <Mydim3> yes
[17:18] <Mydim3> are you familiar with the game series need for speed?
[17:18] <phillw> sorry, not a gamer
[17:19] <Mydim3> ohh
[17:20] <Mydim3> well do you have teamviewer
[17:20] <Mydim3> ?
[17:21] <phillw> I use a spin of vncviewer for my remote, headless, server
[17:21] <Mydim3> phill?
[17:21] <Mydim3> vncviewer?
[17:22] <Mydim3> because im bad at following instroctions
[17:23] <Mydim3> and teamviewer lets you controll my computer
[17:23] <phillw> teamviewer is to be able watch / control remote machines, and I'm just about on nodding terms with it :P
[17:24] <Mydim3> i need someone with teamviewer
[17:24] <Mydim3> so they can controll  my computer
[17:24] <Mydim3> so they can fix the problem
[17:24] <phillw> Mydim3: to do what with it?
[17:25] <phillw> Mydim3: what problem>
[17:25] <Mydim3> so someone can controll it and they can fix the problem
[17:25] <Mydim3> i have two
[17:25] <Mydim3> one about installing a game
[17:25] <phillw> Only two?.... Wow!!!
[17:26] <Mydim3> lol
[17:26] <phillw> Mydim3: what is the other (I don't do games).
[17:26] <Mydim3> about steam
[17:27] <Mydim3> it flashes black when i open it
[17:27] <phillw> ianorlin: / SonikkuAmerica either of you use steam?
[17:29] <Mydim3> phill
[17:29] <phillw> Mydim3: I don't use Steam, it's not something I use - but I am aware of it. If you cannot find anyone on here, try http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=93
[17:30] <Mydim3> i tried that
[17:31] <Mydim3> how do you use vnc viewer
[17:31] <Mydim3> [?
[17:32] <ianorlin> no I don't really use steam there is #ubuntu-steam though
[17:32] <Mydim3> nobody is on there
[17:32] <phillw> you ssh -L into the remote, then trigger vncviewer on the remote. It's a bit messy, but it does work for my headless server on the server farm in France.
[17:33] <phillw> Mydim3:  ^^
[17:34] <phillw> Mydim3:  do learn the word patience.... and then what it means... we can only type so fast :D
[17:34] <Mydim3> it says to get a address
[17:35] <phillw> ianorlin: great, never thought of looking :)
[17:35] <ianorlin> what game is this?
[17:37] <phillw> Mydim3: yes ssh needs a target computer to log onto. The person with that remote computer will give you the address, and possibly the vnc port number. As I only have two people using mine, they know their port numbers do not clash :)
[17:37] <Mydim3> me?
[17:37] <ianorlin> yes mydim3
[17:37] <Mydim3> ohhh its steam in general
[17:38] <Mydim3> it flashes black when i start it up
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: I only use it on Windows...
[17:38] <Mydim3> its buggy on lubuntu
[17:39] <Mydim3> and i have a game i want to install
[17:39] <phillw> Mydim3: I'd suggest the channel ian suggsted in that case
[17:39] <Mydim3> but it won't let ne
[17:39] <Mydim3> i tried that channel
[17:40] <phillw> well, that is the channel to get help for steam. This is a general help channel.
[17:41] <phillw> Mydim3: you also have to factor in that we are all un-paid volunteers. So, you need to be patient.
[17:42] <Mydim3> i know
[17:43] <Mydim3> how do you use my computer from vnc?
[17:43] <phillw> Mydim3: you would need to enable such access.
[17:44] <Mydim3> how do i do that?
[17:45] <phillw> Mydim3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[17:46] <greeter> it depends on a lot of things. if you're talking about remote access from another machine, it might not even be possible depending on your internet connection
[17:48] <phillw> I use ssh -L for initial ssh connection and the system SCREAMS when I go for full GUI connection. That article is very good.
[17:48] <Mydim3> i have teamviewer
[17:48] <Mydim3> and teamviewer is WAY easier
[17:49] <SonikkuAmerica> [ ssh -L ] AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[17:49] <phillw> Mydim3: it does not work on a headless server in a server farm.... If only life was that easy :P
[17:50] <Mydim3> but for personal use its way better
[17:50] <phillw> Mydim3: that my French server speaks english is a big pluss :P
[17:51] <Mydim3> lol
[17:51] <phillw> Mydim3: indeed, but I have 10 VM's
[17:51] <Mydim3> ohh lol
[17:52] <Mydim3> on one computer?
[18:38] <entreri> hey there, any way to get the real lxde theme on lubuntu ?
[18:38] <entreri> without openbox and all
[18:38] <entreri> the real lxde
[18:38] <ianorlin> default lxde uses openbox
[18:39] <entreri> oh ok, thanks. But what about the theme ?
[18:41] <ianorlin> install the lxde-icon-theme for icon theme
[18:55] <entreri> ok thanks I'll try that
[19:02] <entreri> it works, but still the taskbar with the menu button is still blue lubuntu-default
[19:02] <entreri> it would need to be dark, with the lxde real icon as a menu button
[19:35] <phillw> entreri: Trust me, don't delete system folders. If you want to use another theme, download one (www.gnome-look.org).
[19:35] <phillw> That is information from our head of Artwork...
[19:37] <entreri> ok thank you
[19:39] <entreri> I really like the theme of lxde, it rocks, and I think the lubuntu theme is too "minimal" and plain
[19:40] <phillw> entreri: if you have any questions, head to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork Rafael is an amazing guy and will take the time to answer people personally.
[20:15] <rafaellaguna> The menu button is independent. You must choose a new bitmap (right click)


[13:56] <cjwatson> could somebody process ttf-indic-fonts binaries through NEW, please?  I need them to upload the debian-installer merge
[14:00] <ScottK> cjwatson: Looking (I assume from that I should accept them into Main)?
[14:01] <cjwatson> yes please
[14:04] <ScottK> cjwatson: Done, but I probably missed the pubisher.
[14:06] <cjwatson> that's ok, no rush
[14:06] <cjwatson> thanks
[14:26] <cjwatson> CD image builds back on for natty
[14:27] <highvoltage> stgraber: ok I'm back on this one :)
[14:31] <cjwatson> primary and ports architectures now all centralised in a single directory
[15:08] <bjf> do we have daily isos of natty yet?
[15:17] <cjwatson> persia: ubuntutheproject-foundations-n-cdimage-ports-consolidation is done as far as I'm concerned.  Ball's in your court ...
[15:32] <charlie-tca> bjf: yes, Ubuntu alternate
[15:35] <bjf> charlie-tca, thanks
[20:35] <ScottK> skaet: fossology was failing to build in Natty, so I fixed it yesterday.  Just for you ....
[20:35] <ScottK> ;-)
[20:35]  * skaet hugs ScottK
[20:36] <skaet> ScottK, Thanks!


[20:04] <bullgard4> What programs do call /usr/lib/pm-utils/functions?
[20:05] <mjg59> pm-utils
[20:07] <bullgard4> pm-utils is no program. pm-utils is a DEB program package.
[20:11] <mjg59> It's a suite of programs
[20:19] <bullgard4> Thank you.
[20:24] <alex_joni> mjg59: any ideas about bug #204319 ?
[20:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204319 in linux "radeonfb regression: disappearing fonts upon VT switch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204319
[20:37] <mjg59> alex_joni: Not off-hand - I don't have any hardware to test it
[20:38] <alex_joni> mjg59: cradek in here reported it, and has access to hardware. let him know if there's anything else he could do to test
[20:38] <mjg59> Sure
[20:39] <Nafallo> anyone know if the eee's wifi is supported in hardy?
[20:51] <cradek> alex_joni: I should have tried vesafb too.  It may also be broken.
[20:52] <Nafallo> that would be bug #182489 fwiw
[20:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 182489 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "Atheros wireless (AR5006EG) not working on ASUS Eee PC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182489
[22:05] <Kyashan8> hi all
[23:27] <rick_> I'm having trouble with booting the Hardy LiveCD, I think it might be a bug
[23:27] <rick_> The initramfs fails to unpack
[23:27] <rick_> Any ideas on what I could do to track down the problem?
[23:28] <Nafallo> rick_: check the cd / burn at a lower speed
[23:28] <rick_> Nafallo: I tried it on someone else's computer and it worked OK
[23:29] <rick_> Nafallo: This was my second attempt at burning a CD.  4x
[23:29] <Nafallo> hmm
[23:29] <Nafallo> reading other cds fine?
[23:29] <rick_> Nafallo: Think so.  It mounts OK on a running system.  And I've never had any problems with the drive.
[23:30] <Nafallo> oki. dunno then.
[23:30] <rick_> Nafallo: I'll retry at 1x and see if that fixes anything, but I'm kinda doubtful
[23:30] <Nafallo> I doubt it as well
[23:31] <Nafallo> if you want to waste time and a CD ;-)
[23:35] <rick_> I'm gonna go afk for a bit.  Before I do though, could you point me to some information on how I can get a debug kernel source to the one on the CD?
[23:36] <rick_> **identical to the one on the CD
[23:46] <johanbr> rick_: If you want to install, try the alernate cd. Or try booting with "noapic nolapic irqpoll" as kernel parametsrs.