[17:01] <Speiros> ikonia Fair enough.  Dragoneyes suggestion was specifically answering the question, but at the same time, it is better to query the "why"s.
[17:01] <Dragoneye> ikonia: that is my comment
[17:01] <OverCoder> Right
[17:01] <ioria> gtozzi, upgraded from what ? 16.04 ?
[17:01] <rakib> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23758716
[17:01] <ikonia> Dragoneye: ithen stop with it please
[17:01] <OverCoder> so my phone has that MTP over wifi feature
[17:01] <OverCoder> I used to use that on Windows
[17:01] <gtozzi> ioria: yep
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: ok - so there are problems here
[17:02] <OverCoder> I basically hook my phone to my PC via USB, it authenticates, and then I can access my phone through Wi-Fi as if it was plugged in
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: a.) you're using kodi ?
[17:02] <OverCoder> what can I do for Ubuntu?
[17:02] <Dragoneye> ikonia: no humor? :-D
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: lok at the paths in that start up
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: you're using android as a display setup
[17:02] <ioria> gtozzi,  cat /etc/issue
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: this isn't ubuntu is it ?
[17:02] <rakib> yes it ubuntu
[17:03] <ikonia> rakib: what device is this
[17:03] <ikonia> rakib: what file am I looking at
[17:03] <ikonia> that is not an xorg startup log
[17:03] <gtozzi> ioria: it says 16.10 now since i've manually fixed the upgrade procedure (more than once)
[17:03] <rakib> ikonia: i'm install Android Studio
[17:04] <ioria> gtozzi,  uname -r ?
[17:04] <rakib> what device means??
[17:04] <ikonia> rakib: what is this log file
[17:04] <gtozzi> ioria: 4.8.0-32
[17:04] <rakib> ikonia: var/log.Xorg.0.log
[17:04] <ioria> gtozzi,  and you can't login or what ?
[17:04] <ikonia> rakib: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[17:05] <ikonia> rakib: that is not an xorg log file
[17:05] <gtozzi> ioria: i am fine now. I first had to manually sove a couple of package conflicts, then uninstalla  broken package and finally re-install dkms drivers for my network card.
[17:05] <ioria> gtozzi,  oh, ok then
[17:06] <gtozzi> ioria: i do ont have any issue at the moment, just wondering what other poeple gets when upgrading
[17:06] <ioria> gtozzi,  i had no issues
[17:06] <rexfish25> Hi
[17:07] <gtozzi> ioria: i definitely am unlucky then. damn :D
[17:07] <rexfish25> I have a problem with my Ubuntu installation.
[17:07] <Dragoneye> rakib: sorry for not beeing able to resolve your problem, hope ikonia can :-) Have a great day!
[17:07] <ioria> gtozzi,  check the logs and stuff
[17:07] <rexfish25> It asks me many times to install ttf ms fonts installer
[17:07] <rexfish25> But, it doesn't download
[17:08] <rexfish25> The terminal says that the file was not found when it trys to download it from Source Forge
[17:08] <ioria> gtozzi,  /var/log/dist-upgrade
[17:08] <rakib> ikonia: Linux Saifullah 4.4.0-57-generic #78-ubuntu .............  x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> I have problem running NFS MW on wine ubuntu 16.04 using updated drivers from https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42150
[17:08] <ikonia> rakib: thaen what's this ? Kodi compiled Apr 24 2016 by GCC 4.8.0 for Android ARM 32-bit API level 17 (API level 17)
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> wine guys don't know why I have this issue
[17:09] <gtozzi> ioria: lol i have subfolders dating back to 2011 there :D
[17:09] <rakib> Dragoneye: that not a problem, you tried...... :) have a good day.......
[17:09] <ikonia> rakib: the logs you are showing me, do not match the situation you are telling me you are in
[17:09] <ioria> gtozzi,  old user, uh ? :þ
[17:09] <rakib> ikonia: wait, i try again
[17:10] <ioria> gtozzi,  check also df -H   for any space issues
[17:10] <rakib> paste.ubuntu.com/23758901/
[17:10] <rakib> ikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/23758901/
[17:11] <gtozzi> ioria: well, i had a couple of packages trying to overwrite eachother
[17:11] <ioria> gtozzi,  which are ?
[17:11] <gtozzi> ioria: it looks like it has not been logged
[17:11] <ikonia> rakib: ok, looks like the Xorg server is actually starting up, what's erroring is whatever your desktop config is
[17:11] <ikonia> rakib: which looking at your other log file - you have a LOT of miss-configuration
[17:12] <gtozzi> ioria: it only logged the first apt run
[17:12] <gtozzi> ioria: there, i had issues with mysql server dependencies.
[17:12] <ikonia> rakib: I'm guessing you don't actually have a technical problem, based on what you've shown me it looks like you just have a LOT of config problems on your desktop setup
[17:12] <fgdgf> hello to all :)
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42150
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> I am trying to fix bug in NFSMW with wine, for all manking
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> mankind
[17:13] <Speiros> Hi fgdgf
[17:14] <ioria> gtozzi,  if you have any ppa installed, i'd give those a look and  in general read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes
[17:14] <ducasse> !wine | RonaldsMazitis
[17:15] <rakib> ikonia: sorry for left, please say again for me.....
[17:15] <gtozzi> ioria: thanks :)
[17:15] <ioria> gtozzi,  no prob
[17:16] <rakib> ikonia: how can i resolve this issue
[17:17] <rakib> ikonia: hello...........
[17:18] <Speiros> rakib ikonia mentioned you had a few problems on your desktop setup.
[17:18] <Jgamer2040> Hello
[17:18] <pavansa> hi
[17:18] <Jgamer2040> I need help. I am trying to solve this problem for literally like 6 hours.
[17:19] <ducasse> !ask | Jgamer2040
[17:19] <Dragoneye> rakib: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bck; service lightdm restart
[17:19] <ikonia> rakib: you really ned to look at the config of what's being launched
[17:19] <ikonia> rakib: if you look at the actual xorg startup log for xorg, it's actually very clean
[17:19] <linuxnoob92> hey, its me, the guy that couldnt get grub to work. i fixed that problem with boot-repair, but now my grub freezes after some seconds so i cant even switch between ubuntu/windows, is there a known fix for that? ubuntu 16.04.1
[17:19] <ducasse> Dragoneye: why? his xorg is fine.
[17:20] <Dragoneye> ok
[17:20] <Speiros> Jgamer2040 What is the problem?
[17:20] <Jgamer2040> I can't install Ubuntu nor Linux Mint on USB, I get lots of errors, 2 of them being unknown chipset others something saying about USB and a couple of others. After that PC just freezes... Any help?
[17:20] <ikonia> Dragoneye: could you please stop suggesting random things - do the debug and make an educated suggestion please, but stop with just random stuff
[17:20] <Dragoneye> ducasse: tought he was in terminal
[17:21] <ikonia> rakib: can you confirm something for me - when you boot ubuntu, do you get a login screen
[17:21] <rakib> ikonia: no, i can't see login screen
[17:22] <Speiros> Jgamer2040 I personally haven't had success with Ubuntu on USB, so I'm not best to help with this one, but someone will be able to help :)
[17:22] <Dragoneye> rakib: are you still in terminal mode?
[17:22] <ikonia> rakib: ok, so it boots, and then drops back to a login prompt on the shell ?
[17:22] <rakib> Dragoneye: hmmmm, in terminal
[17:22] <Dragoneye> rakib: ok
[17:22] <ioria> Jgamer2040, how did you do the usb stick ? with what software ?
[17:22] <Jgamer2040> Rufus
[17:23] <rakib> ikonia: no after say this error then i press, ctrl+alt+f1 then login
[17:23] <ioria> Jgamer2040, can you get the main menu ? try ubuntu, install ubuntu etc. etc.
[17:23] <ikonia> rakib: so again your logs are not talling up with what you are telling me
[17:23] <Jgamer2040> Yep
[17:23] <ikonia> rakib: earlier on your said your kernel was Linux Saifullah 4.4.0-57-generic #78-ubunt
[17:23] <ikonia> rakib: howeer that log file shows your boot argument to be vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic
[17:24] <ioria> Jgamer2040, from there you can check the integrity of the media, if you want ... but what happens when you select 'install ubuntu' ?
[17:24] <ikonia> rakib: your logs don't match what you are telling us
[17:24] <Jgamer2040> Lots of errors.
[17:24] <wiggmpk> How would I go about changing my ecryptfs passphrase setup at first login for an encrypted /home direcotyr?
[17:24] <ioria> Jgamer2040, ok, do you have an nvidia card ?
[17:24] <rakib> ikonia: but i see this.....after uname -a
[17:25] <Dragoneye> ikonia: whats wrong with you? Should'nt we try to solve his issue, or do you have a craving for atacking me?
[17:25] <Jgamer2040> 2x Strix 1070
[17:25] <ioria> wow
[17:25] <ikonia> Dragoneye: not at all, I just would like you to stop having random guesses with no basis, making changes like you are suggesting for no reason can do more damage
[17:25] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  try to disable secure boot
[17:26] <Dragoneye> ikonia: like I find a solution out of the air?
[17:26] <Jgamer2040> I will but could you suggest mobile app for IRC?
[17:26] <ikonia> Dragoneye: yes
[17:26] <Dragoneye> ikonia: nice!
[17:26] <elias_> hello world
[17:26] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  i don't even know if that thing is supported by nouveau
[17:27] <Speiros> *puts head down, gets a cup of tea, comes back, sighs, then gets back into it.
[17:27] <rakib> Dragoneye: /etc/X11/xorg.conf have no file but have a xorg.conf.failsafe file
[17:27] <ikonia> there should be no xorg.conf file
[17:27] <ikonia> unless you've manually created one
[17:27] <Jgamer2040> OK, I have one PC here, and I kinda need a program. And yes, IRC is supported on mobile phones/tablets.
[17:27] <rakib> ikonia: hmmmm
[17:27] <ikonia> hence why "just randomly guessing" at solutions will not help
[17:27] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  yes, it is
[17:28] <rakib> but how i resolve it....plz say
[17:28] <ikonia> rakib: so if you reboot and login to ubuntu, what do you get, do you get a desktop (if you're not doing alt+f1)
[17:28] <efloid> hi i want to set up a VM.  i'm kind of out of touch with what is the lastest, best way to do it.
[17:28]  * Dragoneye hint taken
[17:29] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  you may need nomodeset or nouveau.modeset=0   to proceed
[17:29] <efloid> i have read about kubernentes and docker and _____ ?
[17:29] <Dragoneye> ikonia: if you read the full story he did that.
[17:30] <ikonia> Dragoneye: he did what ?
[17:30] <Jgamer2040> ioria, I am a complete newbie in Linux, I do not know what are you talking about, sadly.
[17:30] <ducasse> !kvm | efloid
[17:30] <rakib> i have not get any login desktop...............after reboot my pc
[17:30] <Dragoneye> ikonia: wait for it....
[17:30] <ikonia> Dragoneye: he did what ?
[17:31] <ikonia> Dragoneye: can you please stop playing silly games, I'm asking you a direct question as you are suggesting you have information that may be of use
[17:31] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  basically you can edit the line that will pass parameters to the kernel... you may have an F6 option at bottom
[17:31] <Dragoneye> ikonia: as the transcript says
[17:31] <Jgamer2040> Wait a minute, please. I am setting up IRC on my tablet.
[17:31] <efloid> ducasse: what about lxd?
[17:32] <ikonia> Dragoneye: clearly I've not seen what you are talking about, or I wouldn't be asking, so could you please clarify
[17:32] <ducasse> efloid: containers, not virtualization
[17:32] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  get to the main menu , press F6 and select 'nomodeset'
[17:32] <scootergrisen> How do i show all installed GUI programs in Ubuntu?
[17:33] <scootergrisen> Without having to type something so show the onces conatining that which i type
[17:33] <Dragoneye> ikonia: you are a strange dude.  As you read in the begining you se what enfolds.
[17:33] <Speiros> Dragoneye ikonia might not have the transcript mate.
[17:33] <rakib> fealing bore...... ikonia Dragoneye
[17:33] <efloid> ducasse: it's not the same?
[17:33] <Speiros> Dragoneye It has settings for how long it is and other factors.
[17:33] <Dragoneye> Sperios: ok
[17:33] <ikonia> Dragoneye: I've clearly not seen what you are referencing, so please, tell me what you're referencing
[17:33] <HexaChop> There we go.
[17:33] <ducasse> efloid: no.
[17:34] <ioria> scootergrisen, only gui apps ?
[17:34] <HexaChop> Could you please remind me of what should I do?
[17:34] <efloid> ducasse: which one is better?  container or vm?
[17:34] <wiggmpk> If I am using an ecryptfs home directory, would my swap partition naturally be encrypted as shown in /etc/fstab?
[17:34] <ducasse> efloid: depends on what you are using it for
[17:35] <scootergrisen> ioria yeah like i click the icon in top left corner to search for apps but i can't seem them untill i type something
[17:35] <Dragoneye> ikonia: ok, did not cover this envelop of history. sorry :-)  We Will se when he recover from his reboot
[17:35] <scootergrisen> ioria but if i type "a" i will only see the once with "a" in them
[17:35] <ioria> scootergrisen, i don't use it but in Ubuntu Software Centre  you can select 'Installed'
[17:35] <lodearit> why i don't have iptables?
[17:36] <scootergrisen> ioria yeah ok. What do you use?
[17:36] <lodearit> in /etc and also iptables.service even though ufw is active
[17:36] <rakib> Dragoneye: what can i do?
[17:36] <lodearit> ?
[17:36] <efloid> ducasse: i want to run a web server in an isolated environment for security on a server.  i also want to run windows in a container for using photoshop.
[17:36] <squinty> scootergrisen, click on icon on left corner -> click on the icon next to the house icon
[17:36] <rakib> ikonia: what can i do?
[17:36] <ioria> scootergrisen,  dpkg -l  (but it lists all pkgs , not only gui) or synaptic
[17:36] <ducasse> efloid: you can't run windows in a container, you need a vm for that
[17:37] <efloid> ducasse: ok
[17:37] <HexaChop> I wonder if you noticed my message.
[17:37] <Speiros> rakib What does it say when you reboot and login?  Do you remember what the message is, or what happens?
[17:37] <efloid> ducasse: what about a lamp stack?  should i run everything in one container?  or separate container for each component?
[17:37] <Speiros> rakib I don't know if you're meant to try it or not, so don't unless someone else promts you to.
[17:38] <scootergrisen> ioria thanks i thought i tried before but maybe it was just slow
[17:38] <Dragoneye> rakib: Do you have data files on the computer you would like to have?
[17:38] <lodearit> ducase do you know my question, what of iptables ?
[17:38] <lodearit> in ubuntu?
[17:38] <rakib> Speiros: i can't get login screen
[17:38] <ioria> scootergrisen,  ok
[17:38] <lodearit> there is no such service?
[17:38] <ducasse> efloid: again, that depends :) you really should read up on these technologies to determine what to use
[17:38] <Speiros> rakib Ok.
[17:38] <Bashing-om> HexaChop: Context ? To whom are you addressing your query ?
[17:38] <efloid> ducasse: also, just kvm from the command-line or is there some nice management software that is recommended?
[17:38] <squinty> scootergrisen,  might also have to click on Installed -> see more results
[17:39] <ducasse> efloid: virt-manager or kimchi
[17:39] <HexaChop> ioria I think.
[17:39] <efloid> ducasse: i will search for setting up lamp stack with containers
[17:39] <squinty> exit
[17:39] <efloid> ducasse: thanks very much!
[17:39] <ioria> HexaChop, me ?
[17:39] <ducasse> efloid: np
[17:39] <rakib> Dragoneye: yaah, i'm reinstall it ..... 5 hour ago
[17:40] <HexaChop> Yeah, we were trying to solve not installing issue?
[17:40] <Dragoneye> rakib: so no  :-)
[17:40] <rakib> Dragoneye: my pendrive is already bootable noww..........
[17:40] <HexaChop> Correct me if I am mistaken, of course.
[17:40] <ioria> HexaChop, ok, nvidia 1070 ?
[17:40] <HexaChop> 2x Strix 1070 NVIDIAs
[17:40] <ioria> HexaChop, yes, F6 and select nomodeset
[17:41] <lasersaber> why do i have a 'core' file in my home directory?
[17:41] <ioria> HexaChop,  after disabling secure boot
[17:41] <HexaChop> Where should I hit f6?
[17:41] <ducasse> lasersaber: something crashed and dumped core
[17:41] <lodearit> is anyone really smart enough to know why there is no iptables.service here ?
[17:41] <lodearit> is anyone really smart enough to know why there is no iptables.service here ?
[17:41] <Speiros> rakib So just a recap...is the no-login screen the problem you asked about, or something else?
[17:41] <ioria> HexaChop,  look at bottom (and please insert the name of the persn you're talinkg to)
[17:41] <lasersaber> ducasse, ok, i can't seem to be able to open the file for inspection
[17:42] <HexaChop> ioria, sure.
[17:42] <rakib> Speiros: no, i ask about my error......
[17:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  do you see F6 ?
[17:42] <lasersaber> the file is 512 mb in size
[17:42] <HexaChop> I am in GRUB, no.
[17:42] <tomreyn> lasersaber: those are binary memory dumps, created when an application crashed. it can be used with a debugger such as gdb and so-called debugging symbols to get a better idea of why a software crashed.
[17:43] <Speiros> rakib Ok.  So you reload your ubuntu, then you go to low-graphics mode with that error message?
[17:43] <tomreyn> lasersaber: it is not meant to be inspected with a text editor
[17:43] <ioria> HexaChop,  do you see at the bottom of the screen ?
[17:43] <lasersaber> tomreyn, ok thanks
[17:43] <rakib> Speiros: how?
[17:43] <Dragoneye> rakib: All my solutions did not work. The last one got stopped by ikonia so i got no more solution to you than reinstall, but after upgrade the problem will reacure.
[17:43] <Speiros> rakib Sorry, I'm asking, not telling.
[17:43] <ducasse> lodearit: there is no iptables.service
[17:43] <tomreyn> lasersaber: since you're probably not going to do the debugging on it, you could as well delete the file
[17:43] <Speiros> rakib That is the problem?
[17:44] <HexaChop> ioria,  no, there os no F6 stating anywhere. I am installing Linux Mint by the way. I dod try Ubuntu before but I don't have it anymore. It should be similar, right?
[17:44] <lasersaber> tomreyn, thanks; i'll just delete it then
[17:44] <rakib> Speiros: sorry, yaah
[17:44] <lodearit> ducasse: thenn how do i use iptables at all?
[17:44] <Speiros> rakib All good mate.
[17:44] <ducasse> lodearit: read the docs?
[17:44] <tomreyn> lasersaber: in case you want to read on this stuff, use the 'man core' command.
[17:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  well, this is the Ubuntu support channel :þ
[17:44] <lodearit> where?
[17:45] <Speiros> Dragoneye What part of the solution were you addressing?
[17:45] <tomreyn> lodearit: man iptables
[17:45] <rakib> Dragoneye: but this software is not installed
[17:45] <HexaChop> Ioria, any Mint support channels?
[17:45] <ioria> HexaChop,  sure
[17:45] <rakib> Speiros: you meen, Ubuntu Mate
[17:45] <ducasse> !mint | HexaChop
[17:45] <tomreyn> !mint | HexaChop
[17:45] <Speiros> rakib lol, yeah mate:)
[17:45] <lodearit> there is no use when there is no such service, but which docs are you talking ducase  i will read them
[17:45] <HexaChop> !mint
[17:46] <ducasse> lodearit: also read the man pages for iptables-save and iptables-restore
[17:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[17:46] <Speiros> rakib Do you actually mean Ubuntu Mate?  Oh, see I don't even know the terminologies of what is used or not.
[17:46] <ducasse> lodearit: of course there is a point, it does not need a .service file
[17:46] <Speiros> rakib I'm from Australia...that's my excuse:D
[17:46] <Speiros> lol
[17:46] <HexaChop> Thanks everybody.
[17:46] <HexaChop> :)
[17:47] <rakib> Speiros: but i like, ubuntu only
[17:47] <lodearit> ducase ok i know them but there is no /etc/iptables ?
[17:47] <ioria> HexaChop,  or  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[17:47] <ducasse> lodearit: no, there isn't
[17:47] <HexaChop> Thank You once again.
[17:47] <lodearit> then how do i enable iptables on boot , if there is no such service, that's strange
[17:48] <ioria> you're welcome
[17:48] <Speiros> rakib Well, both Dragoneye and ikonia have skills that seem to be addressing your problem, although it seems that the problem isn't clear 100%.
[17:48] <Speiros> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate, and is this able to be addressed?
[17:49] <ff__> anyone here is using phone with Hardware Keyboard?
[17:49] <ducasse> Speiros: the desktop environment
[17:49] <rakib> Speiros: nothing, but i have not any updated iso of ubuntu mate
[17:49] <Speiros> ducasse I see.  Does it differ in the perspective of this blank screen opening in Low source mode?
[17:50] <tomreyn> !phone | ff__
[17:50] <ducasse> Speiros: probably not, that sounds like a driver thing.
[17:50] <Speiros> ducasse Ok, thanks.
[17:51] <Speiros> Dragoneye What part of the issue above were you addressing initially?
[17:51] <tomreyn> ff__: if your question wasn't related to ubuntu phone / tablet / touch, it's OT on this ubuntu support channel, too (but you could discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic).
[17:51] <ff__> thx, ubottu, I check it
[17:52] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42150
[17:52] <RonaldsMazitis> this is reall issue, somebody must know how to fix that
[17:52] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: try #winehq
[17:53] <RonaldsMazitis> ducasse: they don't know
[17:53] <Preguntator> hello, i am using ubuntu 16.04 with a gps garmin device. everything works fine except that i must use it as root.
[17:53] <Preguntator> i had an udev rule in ubuntu 14.04 to use it as a normal user but it does not work in 16.04.
[17:54] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: it's a wine issue, so they are the people you need to talk to. this channel does not do wine application support.
[17:54] <rakib> good byee..................
[17:54] <Dragoneye> Speiros: Tried everything the net gave me. The latest solution got stopped.
[17:54] <Amara> How to do I reset a systemd timer?
[17:54] <Preguntator> coulkd anybody guide me? Has something changed in udev or the way of managing devices?
[17:54] <Speiros> Dragoneye Ok, but you were attempting to add the graphics card?
[17:55] <Dragoneye> In the last article there was a solution .
[17:55] <Speiros> Dragoneye, okay, hang on one minute...
[17:56] <Speiros> ikonia What are the risks associated with the graphics card being changed the way that Dragoneye was suggesting?
[17:58] <Dragoneye> Sperios: http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[17:58] <Speiros> Dragoneye Thanks mate:)  I'm just trying to amalgamate all the thoughts, so that there is an amicable solution.
[17:58] <Dragoneye> Speiros: http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[17:59] <Dragoneye> Speiros: ok m8 :-D
[18:01] <Speiros> Going back up the text, I've copied a section of the suggestions where the discrepancy arrived.  Can anybody please look and see if there is any reason this is no good?
[18:01] <Speiros> Dragoneye, are you okay if I paste it?
[18:01] <ikonia> Speiros: the risks are that it will put files in place that conflict with the ubuntu packages, cause problems with the package manager and cause problems with the compatability with kernel upgrades
[18:01] <Speiros> Thanks ikonia:)
[18:01] <Dragoneye> Speiros: np
[18:01] <ikonia> unless you understand the problem and KNOW the problem is with the intel xorg component you should not even be discussing it
[18:02] <ikonia> and so far I'm seeing nothing wrong with with intel component based on the logs and info being shared
[18:02] <Speiros> Okay, cool.  Here's where things were up to.  Let's break it down and see if we can work through it.
[18:02] <Speiros> rakib: tar xf xf86-video-intel-2.99.917.tar.gz
 Hi. I have problem. I have Intel HD Audio sound card. And I need to set something like: "Seperate all inputs jack as independent input devices" (option from Windows).
 rakib: cd xf86-video-intel-2.99.917
[18:02] <Speiros> * dv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
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[18:03] <SzateX> Speiros: ?
[18:03] <ikonia> he's gone anyway
[18:04] <Speiros> Thaks Drone`
[18:04] <Speiros> Thanks I mean.
[18:05] <XxBrothxX> ciao
[18:05] <Alessio> hi
[18:05] <XxBrothxX> hi
[18:06] <Speiros> So rakib.  Dragoneye and ikonia had some good information regarding your problem, and both of them have different views.  It appears there may be more to it than meets the eye, but hopefully we can work through it.
[18:06] <ducasse> Speiros: if you're talking about rakib's problem, he left so it's rather academic now
[18:06] <XxBrothxX> hi
[18:06] <Speiros> ducasse Oh, I didn't realise.
[18:06] <Alessio> what are you talking about?!?!?
[18:06] <Alessio> wtf
[18:08] <UnixUser> hi
[18:08] <Speiros> :)
[18:09] <lodearit> hello
[18:10] <lodearit> shall i use /etc/init/ to see ssh status? or systemctl or update-rc.d ?
[18:10] <UnixUser> selamat malam
[18:10] <lodearit> which are depracated and whicch are best to use
[18:10] <ducasse> lodearit: which ubuntu version?
[18:11] <lodearit> 16.04
[18:11] <ducasse> lodearit: systemctl, then
[18:12] <Speiros> Selamat malam UnixUser Is all good?
[18:12] <lodearit> and which is the second best and compatible/? /etc/init ?
[18:12] <alkisg> service ssh status
[18:13] <lodearit> i think update-rc.d is depracated but not sure.
[18:13] <alkisg> update-rc does  not show the status, it enables/disables services on boot
[18:17] <lodearit> but in the manual it's not mentioned for some reason if it's depracated
[18:19] <fund> I want to use pen drive as old os system image backup and new os bootable drive both; is it possible?
[18:19] <lodearit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56753/how-do-i-disable-sshd-from-starting-automatically
[18:19] <fund> New--Linux
[18:19] <fund> Old---Windows
[18:19] <lodearit> here /etc/init.d/ssh is mentioned but i see there is no such file or even service?
[18:20] <lodearit> openssh is installed by default on ubuntu
[18:20] <k1l> lodearit: that is a very old howto. ubuntu uses systemd now
[18:20] <lodearit> ok maybe it's openssh-server not openssh
[18:22] <lodearit> how do i list files owned by a package? and which package owns the file X ?
[18:23] <lodearit> say ifconfig is owned by net-tools i think, so how'd apt tell me that
[18:23] <k1l> dpkg -L
[18:23] <arunpyasi> Hello people, can I ask something about tightvncserver ?
[18:23] <ducasse> lodearit: 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/whatever' will tell you the package it belongs to
[18:24] <alkisg> arunpyasi: go ahead
[18:24] <k1l> lodearit: look at /etc/init/
[18:25] <lodearit> k1l for whatt/
[18:25] <k1l> lodearit: you said you want to see the start unit for ssh?
[18:25] <energizer> Is it possible to install an apt package for just one user ?
[18:26] <arunpyasi> alkisg, I needed to deploy multiple servers of tightvncserver and had cloned them but I am having issue, I get connection failed: Too many connection failures.. And I need to restart the servers to make the login work.
[18:26] <lodearit> yeah it's not there
[18:26] <arunpyasi> How can I avoid and fix them ?
[18:27] <Speiros> energizer If you're root, you can download it, but not sure about how to stop other users from using it, or more specifically,how to allow some to and others not to.
[18:27] <alkisg> arunpyasi: I don't know, I'm not using tightvncserver, but wait and see if someone does know.
[18:28] <arunpyasi> alkisg, ok..
[18:28] <arunpyasi> alkisg, do you know if there is tightvncserver irc channel ?
[18:28] <ducasse> !alis | arunpyasi
[18:32] <arunpyasi> ok, there is none I think
[18:33] <aquila> !list
[18:33] <Speiros> energizer, I had a look on the wiki and couldn't find anything specific, but here's a link anyway...coming...
[18:33] <Speiros> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=permissions&titlesearch=Titles
[18:33] <bivo> Trying to get Nestopia to play anything , it crashes on loading a rom, ran it from a terminal http://pastebin.com/xaCh3Ua7 looks like something about the GLX context, but I'm running an i5 m560 so completely OSS drivers.
[18:34] <basedmars> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <basedmars> sorry
[18:35] <Speiros> energizer, There seems to be something under the phone app info, but there are a few entries on there.
[18:35] <mrpanda> hello
[18:35] <mrpanda> windows and linux don´t seem to be friends
[18:35] <Speiros> :)
[18:36] <mrpanda> what is proper way for format an usb stick ??
[18:36] <mrpanda> fat 32 should be good for both ?
[18:36] <Speiros> What are you going to use it for mrpanda?
[18:36] <mrpanda> i try to install lubuntu on this pc
[18:36] <mrpanda> i made iso on other laptop with linux
[18:36] <Speiros> I see.  And windows too?
[18:36] <mrpanda> this runs 10
[18:36] <mrpanda> but i prefer ubuntu
[18:37] <Speiros> Yep.  do you want the windows 10 on the USB too?
[18:37] <mrpanda> nope nope
[18:37] <mrpanda> for god sake
[18:37] <mrpanda> 95 was alright :D
[18:37] <Speiros> Ok.:)
[18:37] <zack263> lol
[18:38] <mrpanda> here i try to format windows doesn´t see well
[18:38] <Speiros> I believe the fat32 is good for the USB stick, but for an external HDD I use xt4
[18:38] <mrpanda> xt4
[18:38] <Speiros> Mind you, my advice is outdated by about 8 years...7 maybe.
[18:38] <mrpanda> nstf ?
[18:38] <zack263> i run win10 on hard drive and ZorinOS on a usb
[18:38] <zack263> then i can flip back and forth
[18:38] <Speiros> ntfs?
[18:38] <mrpanda> da
[18:38] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: are you simply just trying to use a USB flash drive with both Ubuntu and Windows?
[18:38] <lodearit> when i do iptables -S from which file does it fetch the data?
[18:39] <Speiros> No, not suitable, from my understanding.  Only for windows.
[18:39] <lodearit> anyone knows
[18:39] <mrpanda> just ubuntu
[18:39] <mrpanda> formatted it with lunix
[18:39] <k1l> mrpanda: the standard for usb pendrives is fat. because that can be used by most OS
[18:39] <mrpanda> tried to install here
[18:39] <mrpanda> but strange things happen.
[18:39] <thereyouare> anyone knows free dnstunnel services ? so I can have free internet ?
[18:39] <mrpanda> ok fat it is :D
[18:39] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: are you trying to run a LiveUSB or just using it to swap files around?
[18:39] <mrpanda> wanna install ubuntu on this pc
[18:39] <mrpanda> with usb stick-iso file
[18:40] <zack263> i got a video.. on showing how to install ubuntu
[18:40] <zack263> if u want it
[18:40] <mrpanda> sure :D
[18:40] <mrpanda> merci
[18:40] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:40] <zack263> k let me get the link
[18:40] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: should get you going
[18:41] <lasersaber> thereyouare, http://bfy.tw/9Kx5
[18:41] <mrpanda> is true linux don´t need a virus scanner ?
[18:41] <ducasse> !virus | mrpanda
[18:41] <mrpanda> thanks :)
[18:41] <Speiros> mrpanda yes.  You can still install a free firewall that comes with it in the terminal
[18:42] <Speiros> When you get it downloaded onto your computer, it can be enabled by a terminal command.
[18:43] <aquila> xdcc
[18:44] <thereyouare> "Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux", is that what you teach all ubuntu newcomers ?
[18:44] <zack263> How To Install Ubuntu (good part around 14 minutes) although it is an older video its good - https://youtu.be/kL4DG31tgRM
[18:45] <ikonia> you don't really need a video
[18:45] <Sanyam__> HDD or SSHD or SSD for my new Ubuntu Server ?
[18:45] <zack263> although it is an old video i think it gives good insight
[18:45] <ikonia> the process is pretty clear
[18:45] <ikonia> and documented on the wiki
[18:45] <ikonia> !install
[18:46] <mrpanda> :)
[18:46] <Sanyam__> HDD or SSHD or SSD for my new Ubuntu Server ?
[18:46] <mrpanda> i prefer old technique more solid
[18:46] <mrpanda> trusthworty
[18:46] <mrpanda> i think new hd make less sound though
[18:47] <thereyouare> what is SSHD ?
[18:47] <mrpanda> and a bit faster
[18:47] <mrpanda> bye, thanks for info
[18:47] <thereyouare> !free
[18:47] <thereyouare> Sanyam__: what is SSHD ?
[18:47] <lasersaber> !samba
[18:47] <wiggmpk> thereyouare: either a solid state disc of the ssh daemon
[18:48] <wiggmpk> or*
[18:48] <sarkis> hey all - i have headphones that have a usb sound card - ubuntu sound panel is not recognizing it - when i do aplay -l i do see it listed
[18:48] <akik> thereyouare: it's a hdd with a small ssd cache
[18:48] <sarkis> hey all - i'm trying to figure out why usb headphones are not accessible when ubuntu starts up (16.04)... i do see the card when i do cat /proc/asound/cards - there is a 1 [Audio  ]: USB-Audio...
[18:49] <sarkis> oops - sorry, this is Ubuntu 16.10*
[18:49] <sarkis> any ideas on how i can force ubuntu to only use this card from the start? it seems to want to default to the HDMI output - which doesn't have any speakers out
[18:49] <sarkis> i have to unplug/plug in after starting up in order for ubuntu to properly recognize it :(
[18:50] <ceibal> heco
[18:50] <ceibal> exit
[18:50] <thereyouare> USB headphones ? why ? can't you use 3.5mm jack headphones ?
[18:51] <sarkis> it seems like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/769593/16-04-headphones-detected-but-not-switched-on-automatically-after-startup
[18:51] <sarkis> thereyouare: i am about to give up and just do that :D
[18:51] <sarkis> i actually have a nice sound card too
[18:51] <thereyouare> so USB headphones are actually contain soundcard, I didn't know that
[18:52] <ducasse> sarkis: are you using pulseaudio?
[18:52] <sarkis> i am
[18:53] <ducasse> sarkis: try selecting the output with pavucontrol or pasystray. you can also write an asoundrc to set it as alsa default, which will also affect pulse
[19:02] <arunpyasi> hello
[19:03] <arunpyasi> anyone around wanna help with tightvncserver ?
[19:07] <wlan2|2> So I'm having a problem, I try to get into a session on a ubuntu 16.04 I recently upgraded...
[19:07] <wlan2|2> tty works, lightdm seems to start trhe session, wait a moment then restart itself.
[19:09] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: Upgrade broke a proprietary graphic's driver ? What shows from terminal ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[19:12] <vrlx> how do I unzip a .tar.xz file?
[19:12] <SpacePenguin> tar -xJvf somefile.tar.xz
[19:13] <vrlx> thanks
[19:13] <SpacePenguin> np
[19:13] <Speiros> SpacePenguin Does it matter where?
[19:13] <Speiros> I've had the same problem in the past.
[19:14] <wlan2|2> basedmars: any easy way to post it from there?
[19:14] <wlan2|2> I don't want to need ssh-server in that machine.
[19:16] <basedmars> I think you have mistaken me with Bashing-om but okay
[19:17] <wlan2|2> basedmars: sorry, autocomplation betrayed me.
[19:17] <HexaChop> Guess who's back!
[19:18] <Speiros> HexaChop They're not doing re-runs of Bonanza again are they?
[19:18] <HexaChop> Bonanza? What in the world is that? Lol
[19:19] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: It seems to be using the privative 'nvidia' driver, I guerss it's the correct one.
[19:19] <Speiros> HexaChop The Cartwrights?  It's an old western series that used to be on:P
[19:19] <basedmars> adding to his solution, I would suggest running 'sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit'
[19:19] <HexaChop> Speiros, good for you, friend, you know'em. :D
[19:19] <Speiros> lol
[19:20] <Speiros> To be honest, it wasn't a bad show...it was on early in the mornings, about 4 or 5 am
[19:20] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: basedmars +1 .
[19:21] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23759579/
[19:22] <HexaChop> Ii can't get mint to run, maybe ubuntu will work
[19:22] <netkam2>  whats the ncrusses autio player with the visualisations?
[19:24] <Speiros> HexaChop What are you running it on?
[19:25] <tatertots> HexaChop: your symptom follows the hardware, and your symptoms occur across multiple linux distributions.
[19:25] <HexaChop> Haven't tried ubuntu, i mixed things up, I did on my other PC.
[19:25] <netkam2> Speiros: whats the ncrusses autio player with the visualisations?
[19:26] <Speiros> netkam2 I don't know mate.  I just tried a search for ncrusses, but didn't come up with anything, and was going to ask  you if the spelling was correct.
[19:26] <tatertots> HexaChop: hardware>firmware(bios)>OS(operating system)>software
[19:27] <Speiros> netkam2 And do you mean audio player?
[19:27] <HexaChop> Believe you me, my hardware was checked a billion times, it works perfectly. Passes all the tests.
[19:27] <tatertots> HexaChop: your symptoms occur no matter now you switch up the names of the last two, in my previous comment
[19:27] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: checking, bear with me .
[19:28] <tatertots> HexaChop: HUMAN>hardware>firmware(bios)>OS(operating system)>software
[19:28] <HexaChop> Exactly.
[19:28] <ducasse> Speiros: he means ncurses
[19:29] <Speiros> Ah, okay.
[19:29] <HexaChop> If ubuntu works, please, fix MINT.
[19:30] <tatertots> HexaChop: and in such a case, bouncing back and forth between linux distro chat rooms, is in my opinion not productive. Because in the pseudo flow chart above, the liability and responsibility fall as follows
[19:30] <tatertots> HexaChop: HUMAN>hardware>firmware(bios)>
[19:30] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: Should have The 340.xx driver for that card . Do you ? please show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' in a pastebin .
[19:31] <HexaChop> Good for you to be pro at linux, tastertots...
[19:32] <nedstark> distros aren't all configured for all platforms, even microsoft makes the mistake of thinking their OS will run on all legacy systems with thousands of hw and sw configurations.  more theory than fact
[19:32] <HexaChop> If it actually is faulty hardware, man, I will be quite upset rather.
[19:32] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23759651/
[19:32] <tatertots> HexaChop: it's only your two hands and whats between your ears, and the support documentation of your hardware manufacture (example: hp,dell,lenovo)
[19:33] <Speiros> netkam2  I'm not sure if this is it or not, but it shows a visualisation, and says it is ncurses:  https://github.com/karlstav/cava
[19:33] <nedstark> i've had to try 4 different distros on some older systems before 1 worked well
[19:33] <HexaChop> It's Asus
[19:33] <wlan2|2> netkam2: Also take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23759651/
[19:34] <wlan2|2> OH shit
[19:34] <wlan2|2> The one for netkam2 is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_on_Console
[19:34] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: And we dont not have 340 .. try this ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . reboot to see the effect .
[19:35] <HexaChop> tatertots, who knows, maybe u hate me so much that you want me to break my PC.
[19:36] <nedstark> breaking pc's is the only way to learn
[19:36] <nedstark> will teach you a lot more than taking some class and getting a certification
[19:36] <HexaChop> That is where you're wrong, nedstark.
[19:37] <tatertots> HexaChop: if you have yet to even download and create then subsequently boot a ubuntu livecd/liveusb,
[19:37] <nedstark> HexaChop, its the difference between an appliance user and a real computer hobbyist
[19:37] <Speiros> nedstark It didnt work when I was learning the guitar.  I stopped counting past 19...:D
[19:37] <HexaChop> Tatertots, I already have it.
[19:38] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: then try it.
[19:39] <HexaChop> Trying it already.
[19:39] <netkam2> nedstark: lol i agree 100%
[19:39] <arquebus> hello, Ive been using Ubuntu for 10 years now and there is one problem that has always bothered me about text boxes in Ubuntu, and that is that if you are highlighting something and dragging to the right, the highlight will jump over to left if you dont drag exactly in line with the text box, this happens even in things like the Firefox url address box. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[19:39] <tatertots> HexaChop: and what is the estimated amount of time, measured in minutes, would you estimate it would take you to boot from the ubuntu install medium in which you state you are in possession of?
[19:40] <HexaChop> Exact same errors.
[19:41] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: which are?
[19:41] <HexaChop> Tatertots, it is not working
[19:41] <xangua> !doesntwork
[19:41] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/9JgUx, wlan2|2
[19:42] <tatertots> HexaChop: have you now been the eye witness, that your symptoms occur across linux distributions? yes or no
[19:42] <HexaChop> tatertots I am not in a court fo these types of questions. And yes.
[19:43] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: er... Nice imgur error page.
[19:43] <k1l> HexaChop: is this a ubutu there in your paste?
[19:43] <rumpler> Hello I am not sure if I am in the right room for this question, but does anyone have much experience here with making bootable clones of lvm partitions? I can wait if you all need to work one issue at a time
[19:44] <HexaChop> Someone said something about nvidia not working with ububtu.
[19:44] <HexaChop> No, Mint, but exact same errors.
[19:44] <tatertots> HexaChop: HUMAN>hardware>firmware(bios)>
[19:44] <k1l> HexaChop: then please see the mint support because they handle kernel, drivers and such differently and solutions for ubuntu setups might not work.
[19:45] <k1l> !mint | HexaChop
[19:45] <basedmars> Does it work on other system before like windows for example HexaChop?
[19:45] <Serdar> hi all
[19:45] <HexaChop> This is now ubuntu i am using
[19:45] <ioria> HexaChop, why don't you boot a 16.10 ubuntu image ? it ships a newer kernel
[19:45] <HexaChop> Yes, basedmars
[19:45] <BluesKaj> HexaChop, don't beleive everything you hear/read...nvidia works fine if you choose the recommended driver
[19:45] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Can you boot to console or rescue mode?
[19:45] <merlin_> my internet under ubuntu is lowly
[19:45] <HexaChop> ioria, how did you know?
[19:45] <nedstark> i'd try xubuntu 16.10 to switch up the kernel drivers and the window manager
[19:46] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: lots of thanks for that ubuntu-drivers thging. Solved it.
[19:46] <basedmars> You've said that you're using ubuntu now. Am I missing something here HexaChop ?
[19:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  4.8 vs 4.4 in xenial
[19:46] <Serdar> I installed ubuntu recently on my MSI notebook (with lot trouble) but now the X window manager is not showing. I thought this might be an issue with my nvidia driver, and tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/202574/desktop-does-not-show-when-i-installed-nvidia-drivers
[19:46] <HexaChop> Basedmars sorry, trying to install
[19:46] <Serdar> but for some reason it will install some x86 components
[19:47] <jhutchins> HexaChop: What have you tried on that system that does work?
[19:47] <Serdar> I am not sure if this is right, for a 64 bit system
[19:47] <jhutchins> Serdar: What nvidia chipset does lspci show?
[19:47] <HexaChop> Windows multiple versions, jhutchins.
[19:48] <Serdar> jhutchins, GM107M
[19:48] <wlan2|2> Have a nice evening/night/whatever!
[19:48] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: Wonderful thing is ubuntu :)
[19:48] <ioria> HexaChop,  has said before you have a super-card, and probably need to disable secure boot and nouveau out out of  the way
[19:49] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: well, I use l9ots of debian and derivatives.
[19:49] <HexaChop> Ioria, Supercard?
[19:49] <jhutchins> serGTX 1050?
[19:49] <wlan2|2> And Ubuntu is the most automagical.
[19:49] <ioria> HexaChop,  1070 right ?
[19:49] <Serdar> no, GTX960m
[19:49] <HexaChop> 2 of them, ASUS strix, yes.
[19:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  right
[19:50] <k1l> HexaChop: then chroot into the install and install the latest nvidia drivers
[19:50] <nedstark> you need a ppa driver for the 960M in 14.04
[19:50] <k1l> HexaChop: but since that is still a mint issue, ask the mint support for details
[19:50] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: but I sort of thate the sudo craze.
[19:50] <HexaChop> Those are considered supercards?
[19:50] <HexaChop> I am installing ubuntu now.
[19:50] <HexaChop> Scratch mint.
[19:51] <ioria> HexaChop,  16.10 ?
[19:51] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: working is 16.10?
[19:51] <HexaChop> Not yet, no.
[19:51] <jhutchins> Serdar: That's the more significant part, my 1050 is a 107 as well.
[19:51] <k1l> HexaChop: which version?
[19:51] <metaresolve> Can anyone help a new with authentication keys?
[19:51] <jhutchins> HexaChop: I'd make sure quick boot and secure boot are disabled.
[19:51] <wlan2|2> metachr0n: Maybe if you elaborate.
[19:51] <wlan2|2> Dang.
[19:52] <wlan2|2> I give up.
[19:52] <Spodermen_sweg> yo
[19:52] <nedstark> it appears you need a ppa driver for the 960M in 16.04 too
[19:52] <metaresolve> lol, actuial;ly, let me read a bit more so my questions are clear. brb.
[19:52] <Spodermen_sweg> Dayum it's been a while
[19:52] <Serdar> jhutchins, the system was running with acpi=off (but I guess wit nouvou driver) I changed them to acpi_osi= acpi_backlight=none acpi=ht and pci=nomsi but then the swindows is not starting anymore
[19:52] <Serdar> xwindow
[19:52] <Serdar> jhutchins, ah
[19:52] <HexaChop> jhutchins, the one before.
[19:52] <rumpler> I made a bootable clone of my drive to expand storage from 80gb on old drive to 320gb on new. My problem is that the cloned lvm seems to be unable to properly allocate or resize beyond the original size of 80gb
[19:52] <Serdar> nedstark, also foo 16.10?
[19:52] <nedstark> http://askubuntu.com/questions/658040/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-drivers-for-geforce-gtx-960m#658045
[19:52] <Serdar> for
[19:52] <Spodermen_sweg> Brosefs, what's the least complicated way to install a basic lamp server on (k)ubuntu 16.04?
[19:52] <HexaChop> jhutchins, both are.
[19:53] <HexaChop> k1| the one before.
[19:53] <jhutchins> Serdar: Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  Very noisy, but often helpful.  Look for EE
[19:53] <HexaChop> Oh wait
[19:53] <rumpler> I tried several times using expert options in Clonezilla, and pvresize....
[19:53] <HexaChop> I cant disable secure boot.
[19:54] <Serdar> jhutchins, yeah I checked that already
[19:54] <HexaChop> Secure boot state Enabled, jhutchins.
[19:54] <nedstark> Serdar, this says yes http://askubuntu.com/questions/725820/getting-geforce-gtx960-to-work-with-ubuntu
[19:54] <jhutchins> HexaChop: The whole reason for Secure Boot is to keep you from booting Linux.
[19:54] <HexaChop> jhutchins, why?
[19:54] <jhutchins> HexaChop: So you have to run Windows.
[19:55] <HexaChop> Jhutchins my PC came handbuilt. There was no OS on it.
[19:55] <jhutchins> HexaChop: There are some business security reasons, but mostly it's just Microsoft being pushy.
[19:55] <nedstark> i wonder why the 960M drivers aren't in the repo
[19:56] <HexaChop> jhutchins, help disable it? Will it void warranty?
[19:56] <jhutchins> nedstark: They might not have made it through packaging yet.
[19:56] <HexaChop> jhutchins,  but it lets me choose OS type to Other OS.
[19:57] <nedstark> the repo doesn't seem to have nvidia-358, but has 361 and 367
[19:57] <jhutchins> HexaChop: You would have to read your own warranty.
[19:57] <jhutchins> HexaChop: It shouldn't void it.
[19:57] <Serdar> yeah 367 is also available with the standard repository
[19:58] <jhutchins> !secureboot
[19:58] <Spodermen_sweg> ^^what's the least complicated way to install a basic lamp server on (k)ubuntu 16.04?
[19:58] <HexaChop> Jhutchins but it allows to choose os type to other os.
[19:58] <nedstark> the 960M uses nvidia-358
[19:58] <ducasse> HexaChop: that usually disables secire boot, choose other os
[19:58] <ducasse> *secure
[19:58] <Spodermen_sweg> Bonus Question: Is there a way to remove ubuntu from a win10 dual boot that has no risk of catastrophic failure
[19:58] <jhutchins> HexaChop: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot
[19:59] <nedstark> Spodermen_sweg, you can do it through windows' partition software
[19:59] <nedstark> format it as ntfs
[19:59] <Spodermen_sweg> nedstark, but that wouldn't solve the issue of the bootloader surely?
[19:59] <nedstark> can even resize your windows partition to take the extra space, but thats a little more risky
[20:00] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: There's no real risk of catastrophic failure.  Human error, yes.
[20:00] <Spodermen_sweg> My main concern is that when I delete grub, the computer won't be able to start at all
[20:00] <HexaChop> jhutchins does it disable itnif I choose other OS instead of Windowz UEFI Mode?
[20:01] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: You can restore the Windows MBR.  Used to be fdisk /mbr iirc.
[20:01] <nedstark> Spodermen_sweg, there's a windows command shell command for fixit it, bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[20:01] <jhutchins> HexaChop: No, unless that switches to BIOS emulation.  I don't know what your hardware does.
[20:01] <Spodermen_sweg> and re-installing windows 10 over linux isn't an (legal) option, because they discontinued free updates last year
[20:01] <HexaChop> Jhutchins it is called UEFI BIOS
[20:02] <jhutchins> HexaChop: They all are.
[20:02] <ducasse> HexaChop: 'other os' usually disables secure boot, it just doesn't say so
[20:02] <jhutchins> HexaChop: As opposed to CMOS BIOS.
[20:02] <Spodermen_sweg> jhutchins: "You can restore the Windows MBR" >> I'll find out more about this, thanks
[20:03] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: For that matter, you can set Grub to boot to Windows by default and leave it there.
[20:03] <HexaChop> ducasse, but it still says secure, mode enabled.
[20:03] <nedstark> Spodermen_sweg, if you already installed windows 10 and logged in to your microsoft account at least once, it will remember your pc is registered
[20:03] <nedstark> even if you deleted windows
[20:04] <nedstark> if you installed windows 10 and never logged in, you can call microsoft to get them to activate windows 10.  the deadline only applied to systems where win10 was never installed
[20:04] <ducasse> HexaChop: you can boot a live image and run "mokutil --sb-state", that will tell you.
[20:04] <Spodermen_sweg> nedstark: Hmm, interesting... I'll look into that first. reinstalling from scratch would be ideal
[20:04] <nedstark> you can erase and reinstall as many times as you want legally
[20:06] <EmeraldKiwi24> I am here to help
[20:06] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: Just make sure you have any actual Data backed up any time you're messing with installers or partitions.
[20:06] <joachim_> hey can my someone tell who i can install a tor browser on ubunto mate?
[20:07] <k1l> !tor | joachim_
[20:07] <Spodermen_sweg> jhutchins: Nah, we already wiped all the personal data, so it's no problem (woooo)
[20:08] <rumpler> Can anyone help me undestand this lvm issue? I normally do not set up my drives in this way, but allowed Ubuntu to do an automatic installation in this instance and cannot figure out how to utilize all this extra disk space
[20:08] <HexaChop> I know how to disable it, ducasse, jhutchins.
[20:08] <Serdar> this is strange if I only use acpi=off, then the X also starts, but I guess without nvidia drivers
[20:12] <HexaChop> Jhutchins, now I get other errors.
[20:13] <Serdar> nedstark, if there is no 358, should I try 352 instead?
[20:13] <Speiros> rumpler What are you wanting to do with the disk space?
[20:13] <Serdar> I mean 367 is definetly not working...
[20:14] <HexaChop> iora, are you still around?
[20:14] <ioria> HexaChop, yep :þ
[20:15] <ioria> HexaChop,  have you set nomodeset ?
[20:15] <Serdar> or other question, when I add a repository, how can I make sure, that the package is taken from that repository and not from other?
[20:15] <HexaChop> iora, great! I managed to disable secure boot.
[20:15] <ioria> HexaChop,  errors ?
[20:16] <HexaChop> iorra, lota, but some are different.
[20:16] <ioria> HexaChop,  have you set nomodeset ?
[20:16] <HexaChop> Device not accepting address 7 and 8
[20:16] <butter_brick> HNNNNNNGGGGGG installing lamp using Tasksel.. yay or nay? (16.04)
[20:16] <HexaChop> Iora, nope.
[20:16] <ioria> HexaChop,  do it, F6
[20:16] <HexaChop> Iora, it throws me into GRUB.
[20:16] <Speiros> rumpler what do you perceive is the problem with the disk space?
[20:17] <k1l> butter_brick: tasksel does the same as a manual pacakge install. so why not?
[20:17] <ioria> HexaChop,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions   look at the pictures
[20:17] <k1l> !lamp | butter_brick
[20:17] <restsdfgsdfg> WINE channel?
[20:17] <rumpler> Speiros, Hi. Thanks for listening. I am trying to upgrade my space from old 80gb drive to newer 320gb drive. I have successfully made bootable clone several times but never can get cloned partition to utilize the full 320gb space and only recognizes 80gb
[20:17] <k1l> !wine | restsdfgsdfg
[20:18] <HexaChop> iora, just askin'. Are you a female? If so, awesome to see some females actualy interested in linux troubleshooting!
[20:18] <restsdfgsdfg> you know typing winehq was faster ? : D
[20:18] <restsdfgsdfg> thanks
[20:18] <rumpler> Speiros, I tried using Clonezilla with expert options and tried pvresize
[20:18] <ioria> HexaChop,  lol
[20:18] <butter_brick> tasksel it is... thankur
[20:18] <Speiros> rumpler I see.  Let me look on my computer to see if it's possible for what I suggest first...
[20:18] <lasersaber> irc is 99% males
[20:18] <butter_brick> btw anyone in here major in compSci?
[20:19] <HexaChop> Srsly tho, you'll rarely see a girl doing stuff like this.
[20:19] <nedstark> serdar, nvidia has a driver search page that has generic linux drivers (not ubuntu-specific).  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us  in the absence of a driver in the repo, i'd try that.  it looks as if this is the most current driver for the 960M but you can double check yourself http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/112992/en-us
[20:20] <Speiros> rumpler Are you looking to resize the partitions?
[20:20] <butter_brick> (>_>)
[20:20] <Speiros> lasersaber Where is the information on that?
[20:20] <butter_brick> (*b*)
[20:21] <Speiros> lasersaber I wouldn't know a male from a female on here...generally speaking I mean.
[20:21] <lasersaber> Speiros, based on my own experience.
[20:21] <HexaChop> iora, nomodeset enabled!
[20:21] <Speiros> lol okay:)
[20:21] <butter_brick> HexaChop: You're probably right, but I estimate it's more of a 90/10 split, maybe even 85|15
[20:21] <ioria> HexaChop,  if nomodeset it's not useful,  you need to edit the kernel boot line with nouveau.modeset=0 , i'll tell you how
[20:21] <rumpler> Speiros, Yes I am. I have done so through gparted, and it tells me it was successful and that the space was properly allocated, but when I check with pvdisplay or df -h it says only 80gb  size
[20:21] <butter_brick> btw anyone in here major in compSci?
[20:21] <butter_brick> btw anyone in here major in compSci?
[20:22] <butter_brick> Spameh^
[20:22] <Speiros> rumpler Ah, okay.  That was going to be my suggestion...
[20:22] <Speiros> butter_brick I think more a 87.5/12.5%...
[20:23] <HexaChop> Iora, it removed chipset errora while all others remained there.
[20:23] <k1l> butter_brick: for non technical support chatter there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <ioria> HexaChop, booting 16.10 ?
[20:23] <Speiros> rumpler Have you turned the machine on and off since the resize (not that I know for sure it will do anything)?
[20:23] <HexaChop> Iora, whoops.
[20:23] <HexaChop> Oh yes.
[20:24] <HexaChop> Iora, lemme get the newer version then.
[20:24] <butter_brick> k1l:  oops sorry
[20:24] <ioria> HexaChop, i think is better, but first you can try nouveau.modeset=0
[20:24] <rumpler> Speiros, yes several times as I have made several clones at this point in attempts to solve this. At one point I tried lvextend, and that gave me the output in pvdisplay that all of the 320gb drive space was used, and nautilus still acts like there is only 80gb
[20:25] <HexaChop> Iora I am already getting the newer version.
[20:26] <Speiros> rumpler Are all the file systems the same, the ones you're changing into, as the clone?
[20:26] <Jordan_U> rumpler: You need to extend the vg now that you've extended the pv.
[20:26] <Speiros> rumpler Sorry if they sound like silly questions.
[20:26] <HexaChop> Iora, secureboot reenabled itself, lol.
[20:26] <Serdar> can this cause issues "The distribution-provided pre-install script failed!"
[20:26] <rumpler> Jordan_U, how may I do that?
[20:26] <rumpler> Speiros, as far as I know
[20:26] <Speiros> rumpler Ok.
[20:27] <rumpler> Jordan_U what I mean is what are the parameters for vgextend?
[20:27] <HexaChop> Iora, are 1070 considered supercards?
[20:27] <ioria> HexaChop, if set to 'Other Os' is ok.   you need to highlight 'install ubuntu' and then press 'e' or 'tab' ... in this way you can modify the parameters . You'll see a line that ends with 'quiet  splash' you just need to add  nouveau.modeset=0
[20:28] <Guest51233> can this cause issues "The distribution-provided pre-install script failed!"
[20:28] <rumpler> Jordan_U is it similar to lvextend i.e. "lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/etc"?
[20:28] <ioria> HexaChop, i'd say yes
[20:28] <Speiros> Serdar1 In what application?
[20:28] <Serdar1> nvidia driver installation
[20:28] <HexaChop> iora but both of them lag while playing GTA V.
[20:29] <nedstark> fyi nvidia actually has live chat tech support for video cards http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/chat/chat_launch/
[20:29] <Jordan_U> rumpler: http://www.tecmint.com/extend-and-reduce-lvms-in-linux/ Note that while that guide mentions creating a new partition, you do *not* need to do that in your case.
[20:29] <k1l> Serdar1: show the whole errormessages /output on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <Speiros> Serdar Ok.  I don't know personally.  Look at the info nedstark highlighted though, as it might help.
[20:29] <joachim_> dpkg: nicht behebbarer fataler Fehler, Abbruch:
[20:29] <joachim_>  unbekannte Gruppe »crontab« in statoverride-Datei
[20:29] <joachim_>  want can i do??
[20:29] <ioria> HexaChop, 397,00 € in my country
[20:30] <joachim_> if i want to install a programm this error dpkg: nicht behebbarer fataler Fehler, Abbruch:
[20:30] <joachim_>  unbekannte Gruppe »crontab« in statoverride-Datei
[20:30] <rumpler> Jordan_U, thank you I will take a look at the link
[20:30] <thereyouare> what is GTA V ?
[20:30] <Serdar1> k1l, this is the complete message. I can continue (at own risk) or abort.
[20:30] <HexaChop> It costed 600€ here, iora.
[20:30] <ioria> HexaChop, yup
[20:30] <Serdar1> ioria, what is the nouveau.modeset=0 doing?
[20:30] <Jordan_U> joachim_: Please run "LANG=C" in a terminal, then run the command that output that message agin (it should then be in English) and pastebin the full output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[20:31] <HexaChop> thereyouare probably the best game ever on PC
[20:31] <Serdar1> HexaChop, ever played Feeble Files?
[20:31] <HexaChop> Iora, it says AMD, why?
[20:31] <HexaChop> Serdar1, nope.
[20:31] <ioria> Serdar1, it  makes nouveau go away
[20:32] <Serdar1> hmm
[20:32] <ioria> HexaChop, amd ?
[20:32] <joachim_> ok here in english sry  dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[20:32] <joachim_>  unknown group 'crontab' in statoverride file
[20:32] <Speiros> joachim_ "unrecoverable fatal error"
[20:32] <HexaChop> Yep, iora, the filename has amd64 in it.
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, no, that's anothe thing ... it's your arch
[20:33] <HexaChop> My what, ioria?
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, you're 64bit
[20:33] <HexaChop> Ioria, ye.
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, architecture ... 36 or 64 bit
[20:33] <HexaChop> Ioria 32*
[20:34] <k1l> HexaChop: load the 64bit file and use that.
[20:34] <HexaChop> 32-86 or 64, ioria.
[20:34] <ioria> HexaChop, you're for sure 64bit
[20:34] <thereyouare> HexaChop: the best game ever is DOOM
[20:34] <HexaChop> K1| I know, sir.
[20:35] <HexaChop> Thereyouare, depends on taste.
[20:35] <Serdar1> I still say Feeble Files :)
[20:35] <arunpyasi> hello !!
[20:35] <arunpyasi> anyone around please ?
[20:35] <Serdar1> also Simon the Sorcerer series
[20:35] <Speiros> joachim_ What are you wanting to do?
[20:35] <thereyouare> arunpyasi: what is the best PC game ever ?
[20:35] <joachim_> i want to install firefox
[20:35] <arunpyasi> thereyouare, PlanetSide
[20:35] <arunpyasi> 2
[20:35] <Speiros> thereyouare minesweeper:D
[20:36] <Serdar1> Shoot him
[20:36] <Speiros> lol
[20:36] <arunpyasi> joachim_, sudo apt install firefox
[20:36] <k1l> joachim_: german support is in #ubuntu-de channel. but you can put all the error/output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here.
[20:36] <Serdar1> err sorry, thought this is a crime scene
[20:36] <HexaChop> Technical chat became what-game-is-the-best-chat. Lol.
[20:36] <arunpyasi> Can anyone help me with VNC stuffs !!
[20:36] <Speiros> arunpyasi What is your question mate?
[20:37] <Serdar1> it is the game which comes after the one you play!
[20:37] <lasersaber> how come apt is used instead of apt-get or vise versa?
[20:37] <k1l> lasersaber: apt is the new apt-get (apt-cache,apt-file,...)
[20:37] <jatt> apt is newer and better
[20:37] <Serdar1> I will call it "The Earth"
[20:38] <arunpyasi> Speiros, I am kinda being attacked by some IPs, trying to login my tightvncserver
[20:38] <lasersaber> ok thanks guys
[20:38] <arunpyasi> and the server is also rejecting my own IP
[20:38] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: vnc really shouldn't be exposed to the internet.
[20:38] <Serdar1> http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/The_Feeble_Files
[20:39] <arunpyasi> so, what i need to do is, make use of SSH but I am having issue that my windows machine doesn't have SSH in their VNC client
[20:39] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: How do you know it's being attacked?
[20:39] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Google putty ssh
[20:39] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, via the log of tightvncserver
[20:39] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Use that.
[20:39] <lasersaber> arunpyasi, try teamviewer
[20:39] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have multiple servers that needs to be vnc into
[20:40] <arunpyasi> lasersaber, thats not a good solution
[20:40] <HexaChop> Ioria, USB nearly ready
[20:40] <Serdar1> I guess you need Yming
[20:40] <Serdar1> err
[20:40] <Serdar1> Xming
[20:40] <lasersaber> arunpyasi, or nomachine.com
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I need something like Remmina with SSH in it.
[20:40] <ioria> HexaChop, ok
[20:40] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: vnc should only run on a LAN or over VPN.
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, hmm VPN seems good
[20:40] <HexaChop> Ioria, will all those reboors ruin my PC?
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, Is there any free VPN service ?
[20:40] <ioria> HexaChop, guess not
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, how do I use it ?
[20:41] <arunpyasi> or configure it ?
[20:41] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: If you have to expose a port for ssh or vnc it should not be on the standard port.
[20:41] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: You can set up a vpn server on ubuntu.
[20:41] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, ok, changing to non-standard should be fine right ?
[20:41] <lasersaber> nomachine is pretty great
[20:41] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: People can still find it by portscanning.
[20:41] <HexaChop> Ioria, why linux are so sensitive to any kind of fault?
[20:41] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, should I setup vpn server on the same VNC server or another ?
[20:42] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: I don't know enough about your network to advise you.
[20:42] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: What are you running that you need to connect to VNC for?
[20:42] <ioria> HexaChop, it's opensource aka reverse  engineering ... especially with drivers like amd or nvidia
[20:43] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Windows has plenty of problems too.
[20:43] <Speiros> arunpyasi If you need to fix it, there may be more information at ##networking too.
[20:43] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have around 40-50 VPS running that I need to VNC to
[20:43] <HexaChop> Jhutchins bet much less.
[20:44] <ioria> HexaChop, you'll always have to struggle  with new (not opensource) hardware on linux
[20:44] <jhutchins> HexaChop: It depends on what you're doing with it.
[20:44] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Think about it, when was the last time you worked at this level (video drivers, etc) on Windows?
[20:45] <ioria> HexaChop, for me, it's still impossible run an built-in card reader
[20:46] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Hardware manufacturers work directly with Microsoft to make sure their stuff works with windows.
[20:46] <ioria> right
[20:46] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, is there a way to forward a port to another port in same PC ?
[20:46] <lasersaber> winblows*
[20:46] <HexaChop> Jhutchins linux makes you to know a lot more about programs than Windows.
[20:46] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Not as many work with Linux developers before they release.
[20:46] <Serdar1> how can I easily check if nvidia driver is loaded?
[20:46] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: I don't think that would work the way you want.
[20:47] <fund> How to dual boot?
[20:47] <alkisg> Serdar1:  lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA ==> and check for driver in use: nvidia
[20:47] <HexaChop> Ioria, I have muxh different errors now.
[20:47] <ioria> HexaChop, 16.10 with nomodeset ?
[20:48] <HexaChop> Ioria, forgot about that.
[20:48] <alpaaa> i have a problem. I installed ubuntu gnome on a single partition. Then i created a partition and moved all the contents of /home to it . Next, I edited /etc/fstab and set the new partition to mount at /home. But now i cant log in as gdm returns back to login page after i login. I checked in a tty, the partition is mounting properly. Any ideas what could have gone wrong?
[20:48] <ioria> HexaChop, F6 then we try nouveau.modeset=0
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Serdar1: I look at ' sudo lshw -C display ' to see if a video driver is loaded . look on the configuration line .
[20:48] <HexaChop> I get no SPROM available, iora.
[20:48] <alkisg> alpaaa: maybe /home/username ownership? Does it belong to the user?
[20:48] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, so, what would be the solution ?
[20:49] <jhutchins> fund: http://www.howtogeek.com/187789/dual-booting-explained-how-you-can-have-multiple-operating-systems-on-your-computer/
[20:49] <fund> Thanks jhu
[20:49] <alpaaa> alkisg: yes that belongs to the user
[20:49] <Speiros> arunpyasi I think you are doing what I was thinking of doing to some extent, but it sounds like I can't do it either.
[20:50] <ioria> HexaChop, reboot,  highlight 'install ubuntu' and then press 'e' or 'tab'    find  'quiet  splash'   and  add   nouveau.modeset=0   then F10 or enter
[20:50] <alkisg> alpaaa:  can you login properly if you switch to vt1 with alt+ctrl+f1?
[20:50] <HexaChop> Iora, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[20:51] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: So these VPSs are on some hosting provider.  Does the hosting provider offer a firewall?  Can they restrict what addresses can reach your VNC?  Can they give you a virtual IP that forwards certain connections to ports on specific VMs?
[20:51] <Serdar1> darn, what happened to the good old alt + ctrl + backspace?
[20:51] <Serdar1> it is not working anymore
[20:51] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: What software are you running on these servers?
[20:51] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, its Vultr
[20:51] <alpaaa> alkisg: yes i can
[20:51] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, tightvncserver
[20:51] <HexaChop> Iora, neither e nor tab works.
[20:52] <alkisg> alpaaa: also, what's the fstab line that you're using?
[20:52] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I had restricted some IPs via firewalld but the solution seems temporary as there may be other attacks in future
[20:52] <alkisg> (for home)
[20:52] <darkxploit_> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER darkxploit_ qaajpsvbonpn
[20:53] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Restrict all, allow some.  Your firewall should be able to forward ports.
[20:53] <lasersaber> Serdar1, try using hardinfo sudo apt install hardinfo
[20:53] <jhutchins> darkxploit_: You may want to change your password.
[20:53] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have only enabled forward for 5900
[20:53] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I but my IP is dynamic
[20:53] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Some firewalls will act as VPN servers too.
[20:53] <Speiros> darkxploit_ don't forget the / before the msg.
[20:53] <arunpyasi> it changes previodically
[20:54] <arunpyasi> periodically
[20:54] <Speiros> It is a risk that...
[20:54] <alpaaa> UUID=d486d1f8-987a-47ee-91f1-834059193fe7 /home      ext4   errors=remount-ro 0     1
[20:54] <jhutchins> fund: If you ask your questions here anyone can answer.  I tend to come and go.
[20:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  the nouveau errors are away... have you assembled yourself the desktop ?
[20:55] <Serdar1> for some reason I cannot check with all these tools, if nvidia is used or intel
[20:55] <fund> I have windows tablet
[20:55] <thereyouare> there is a box, with 5 red and 1 blue ball, what is more probable:  1) I take out 5 balls and they are all red   2) I take out 1 ball and it is blue
[20:55] <fund> And now want to use Ubuntu
[20:55] <HexaChop> Iora, with some help, yes.
[20:55] <fund> How to boot Ubuntu?
[20:55] <fund> And use it?
[20:55] <alkisg> alpaaa: if you login from vt1 and try to create a file, with e.g. "touch hi", do you get any errors?
[20:55] <fund> Grub or yumi will be needed?
[20:55] <alpaaa> nopes
[20:55] <jhutchins> fund: Try a live image, booted from disc or USB.
[20:56] <ioria> HexaChop,  try to switch the sata ports
[20:56] <fund> External pen drive will be required?
[20:56] <alpaaa> yes fund
[20:56] <fund> Why
[20:56] <jhutchins> fund: If it's _just_ a tablet it might not be a good idea, google for the specific tablet + ubuntu and see if other people have done it.
[20:56] <HexaChop> Ioria, the hard drive is external, by the way, I want to give up.
[20:56] <fund> I have space in my hard disk to store Ubuntu
[20:57] <fund> jhutchins I need your help to Google if you can
[20:57] <jhutchins> fund: You need to boot to something other than the existing OS in order to install Ubuntu.
[20:57] <fund> I didn't get you
[20:57] <jhutchins> fund: What make & model?
[20:57] <alpaaa> alkisg: found the fix - the partition had some sort of errors and was mounting in ro. i fsck'd it and now i am able to log in
[20:57] <fund> Iball i701
[20:58] <ioria> HexaChop,  are you installing ubuntu on external usb hd  ?
[20:58] <HexaChop> Ioria, yes.
[20:58] <alkisg> alpaaa: nice
[20:59] <fund> I started downloading lubuntu since it's light weight
[20:59] <fund> It is being dowaloading in tablet ssd
[20:59] <alpaaa> fund: if you really need something lightweight go for lubuntu instead of ubuntu
[20:59] <Speiros> thereyouare I guess 1)...
[21:00] <fund> alpaaa yes
[21:00] <Speiros> *always goes for the opposite of what seems correct...
[21:00] <lasersaber> also, inxi is nice little tool too.
[21:00] <thereyouare> Speiros: someone in #statistics said: "< Hwkiller> the ball problem still sounds equal: 5/6 * 4/5 * 3/4 * 2/3 * 1/2 = 1/6"
[21:01] <zamanf> is there a way to encrypt a usb device and protect it with password (SHA512 if possible)
[21:01] <Speiros> thereyouare there you are!  Interesting.
[21:01] <ioria> HexaChop,  i'd try to switch the sata ports
[21:01] <HexaChop> I decided to give linux a go but now never again, it is way too difficult and can riun PCs very easily, ioria...
[21:02] <thereyouare> HexaChop: try slackware
[21:02] <ioria> HexaChop,  ruin ? no....
[21:02] <HexaChop> Ioria, how, it is not on sata.
[21:02] <jhutchins> fund: I would not recommend this.  It's not a very well supported device, and Ubuntu is meant to run on a standard PC or Laptop.
[21:02] <ioria> HexaChop,  yes, but first it scans your hw
[21:02] <jhutchins> fund: I'm not sure what processor that uses, there might be an Ubuntu build that will run on it.
[21:02] <fund> jhutchins it's like pc only
[21:03] <HexaChop> Ioria, what if I have no other HDDs?
[21:03] <fund> Intel atom
[21:03] <ioria> HexaChop,  connected ... you mean ?
[21:03] <fund> You just guide Me steps to follow
[21:03] <HexaChop> Ioria, yes.
[21:03] <fund> I take all risks
[21:04] <ioria> HexaChop,  you can run the live (try ubuntu without install) but you can't install it
[21:04] <HexaChop> Ioria Can I tell you something? There shouls be no space after?!., etc.
[21:04] <HexaChop> Before*
[21:04] <HexaChop> Ioria, doesn't work still.
[21:04] <ioria> HexaChop,  after what ?
[21:05] <Speiros> lol
[21:06] <Speiros> HexaChop Are you sure about that                    ?
[21:06] <Speiros> ioria:D
[21:06] <HexaChop> Ioria, before, I meant.
[21:06] <fund> Wubi
[21:06] <ioria> HexaChop, do this, disconnect the sata's ports, and run 'try ubuntu without install'
[21:06] <fund> I found this tool
[21:06] <Speiros> *pulls his head in.
[21:07] <jhutchins> fund: It is pretty likely that the drivers for this are not available in ubuntu.
[21:07] <HexaChop> Speiros, come on now, I am just trying to help, lol, and I am not intimidated by your huge spaces.
[21:07] <Speiros> HexaChop Man, I thought with spaces like that, I'd at least look bigger.
[21:08] <HexaChop> Speiros, nah, lol.
[21:08] <Speiros> Ok:D
[21:08] <jhutchins> fund: I don't know what tools you would use for partitioning it.  If you're not confident in googling for turorials, or if there _aren't_ tutorials, you're probably over your head and at risk of bricking the tablet.
[21:09] <ioria> HexaChop, i have to go, good luck
[21:09] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Which is better: copy source to software RAID backup1/backup2 mirror vs copy source to backup1 then copy backup1 to backup2 using rsync and cron?
[21:10] <Speiros> thereyouare I was thinking about that ball thing...
[21:11] <HexaChop> Speiros, you are not going to help me, are you?
[21:11] <Speiros> thereyouare There's another factor.
[21:11] <thereyouare> what is Tylenol ?
[21:11] <Speiros> Hexachop I don't know too much I'm afraid, on a serious note.
[21:12] <HexaChop> Well, I am very much unsuccessful with linux.
[21:13] <lasersaber> HexaChop, why?
[21:14] <Speiros> HexaChop Once you get past the problem, you'll love it, and I doubt you'll go back to Windows, but problems are hell-frustrating.
[21:15] <HexaChop> Speiros, yup... That is probably the only con on linux.
[21:15] <Speiros> HexaChop Yep.  The only one in my eyes too:)
[21:16] <lasersaber> Serdar1, did you figure it out?
[21:16] <Speiros> HexaChop I look at the image you uploaded, and I don't understand it.
[21:16] <HexaChop> Speiros, :). This problem is gibberish to me.
[21:17] <HexaChop> Speiros,  maybe contact with linux devs?
[21:17] <Speiros> I think you're in the right place now, but time is a problem in knowing who knows what and when they are on.
[21:18] <Speiros> thereyouare The other factor is error.
[21:18] <Speiros> thereyouare To presume that all five balls will be selected equally, I mean.
[21:18] <HexaChop> Speiros, hey, maybe you can notify me somehow?
[21:18] <Speiros> HexaChop  I haven't moved onto 16.4 yet because of a problem with my soundcard.
[21:19] <Speiros> What are you looking for?  I mean as regards this notification?
[21:20] <HexaChop> Speiros maybe notify me when the devs are on.
[21:20] <HexaChop> Speiros I wonder why linux is so special.
[21:20] <Speiros> HexaChop I'm not on here 24/7 mate.
[21:20] <Speiros> HexaChop One reason for me is when I wanted to use my business plan, is I had all the programs at my fingertips.
[21:20] <lasersaber> open source is a beautiful thing :)
[21:21] <lasersaber> and free
[21:21] <lasersaber> :)
[21:21] <Speiros> HexaChop When I wanted to make my music, the same applied.
[21:21] <HexaChop> Speiros, if you log in at a perfect time would increase the odds to meet the devs.
[21:21] <Speiros> At the time Windows was charging an arm and a leg for Microsoft Project, when on Ubuntu, I could download it, with a great GUI to go.
[21:22] <Speiros> HexaChop I'm in Australia, and I believe the most devs would be in Europe, UK and US.
[21:22] <HexaChop> 16.4, Speiros? Can you tell me more?
[21:23] <Speiros> HexaChop When you have it uploaded on  your computer, you can have a flashback to Microsoft's "Add and remove programs" and think "When did I ever "Add" anything?
[21:23] <Speiros> HexaChop Then you will see the Software Centre, or the Package Manager.
[21:23] <Speiros> On Ubuntu I mean.
[21:23] <HexaChop> Speiros, true, only removed stuff.
[21:24] <Speiros> HexaChop Yep.
[21:24] <Speiros> The solution for Windows, which didn't always work, was "Throw money at me!"
[21:24] <Speiros> Virus-ridden and open to many attacks for the inexperienced, of which I am/was.
[21:24] <HexaChop> Speiros, again, true, with linux, you couls create your own OS.
[21:24] <dsnyders> Personally, the only thing keeping me on Windows is MS-OneNote.  If there were a decent clone of it, I'd switch completely.
[21:25] <tatertots> HexaChop: surely you have actually install ubuntu by now yes?
[21:25] <Speiros> HexaChop True, if you've got the skills and capacity to put the pieces together.
[21:25] <HexaChop> Dsnyders I don't use MS Note.
[21:25] <HexaChop> Speirow, true.
[21:25] <HexaChop> Tatertots, no.
[21:25] <Speiros> dsnyders What is OneNote again?  It's been a long time.
[21:26] <lasersaber> dsnyders, codeweavers.com
[21:26] <tatertots> HexaChop: surely you have tried ubuntu livecd/liveusb by now yes?
[21:27] <HexaChop> Tatertots yep. Same.
[21:27] <dsnyders> Speiros: It's a tabbed binder notebook kind of thing.  I have a lot of notes on it.
[21:27] <Serdar1> lasersaber, yes, I changed my grub settings
[21:28] <lasersaber> Serdar1, ok
[21:28] <bivo> Why is my clipboard purged if my system goes to screensaver?
[21:28] <Speiros> dsnyders I see. Ok.
[21:28] <HexaChop> Tatertots surpassed 11 hours of trying to solve this.
[21:29] <dsnyders> lasersaber: It only gets three stars.  I think I'd be better off running windows in a virtual machine and running OneNote there.
[21:30] <blomstertj> Can someone help me out with MS Core Fonts?
[21:30] <lasersaber> dsnyders, or that :)
[21:30] <Speiros> Yeah, sorry HexaChop, but as for the NVIDIA card, that's why I'm still in 14.4.  The only reason...at least so far.
[21:30] <lasersaber> dsnyders, https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-onenote-2007
[21:31] <blomstertj> I have the right packages but it still wont' show up
[21:31] <HexaChop> Try the newest version, Speiros.
[21:32] <dsnyders> lasersaber: Any experience running it in wine?
[21:32] <scokovski> Hi, can any of you tell me how to turn on keyboard backlighting in Ubuntu 16.10?
[21:32] <scokovski> I can't seem to find the setting for it.
[21:33] <Speiros> HexaChop Once I see the problem has gone away, I will.
[21:34] <HexaChop> Maybe the same problem applies to me, Speiros?
[21:35] <lasersaber> dsnyders, no since i bought crossover linux
[21:35] <reyz> guys any1 installed Samba?
[21:36] <lasersaber> i use it for MS Office 2007, works great
[21:36] <Speiros> HexaChop possibly mate.  If you want to start with the 14.4 version, at least the NVIDIA doesn't have a problem...at least in my case.
[21:36] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have a plan.. what would be if I do private networking of my VPS with each other and setup OpenVPN on one of them and login OpenVPN on my machine and try to connect the other VPS using their private IP ??
[21:37] <HexaChop> Speiros, how does your problem expresses itself?
[21:37] <thereyouare> what video card has better support in ubuntu ? Intel ? Radeon ? Nvidia ? for gaming
[21:37] <reyz> can you game on Ubuntu?
[21:37] <basedmars> does it worth the money lasersaber ? Crossover
[21:37] <reyz> woudnt u get better performance on a Win10 machine?
[21:38] <bgd> no, you can play like in windows
[21:38] <thereyouare> I heard that too often
[21:38] <bgd> cant
[21:38] <lasersaber> dsnyders, for me it was, you can search for coupons online and get a discount
[21:38] <HexaChop> Reyz, much less games, but better performance.
[21:38] <colmoot> You can very well actually
[21:38] <Speiros> HexaChop I have no sound at all, as though there is no sound driver.
[21:38] <thereyouare> why can't they make Ubuntu a gaming platform it will increase its chances of survival on desctops
[21:38] <reyz> HexaChop: i thought the games are optimized for Windows and not Linux...
[21:38] <Speiros> I updated the NVIDIA card, and no sound.  As I make music, I need sound, so I reverted backwards to 14.4.
[21:38] <HexaChop> reyz, linux is lightweight.
[21:39] <lasersaber> dsnyders, OneNote works flawlessly for me
[21:39] <lasersaber> 2007
[21:39] <colmoot> True, but Steam is changing things
[21:39] <bgd> so , nice comunity
[21:39] <sas-ai> :)
[21:39] <efloid> can anyone recommend video editing program?
[21:39] <HexaChop> Bgd, true. :)
[21:39] <blomstertj> Speiros: there is a graphics driver PPA for Nvidia cards
[21:39] <efloid> what is most popular video editor for linux?
[21:39] <blomstertj> I'm using it for my 770
[21:40] <bgd> I was thinking irc is dead :)
[21:40] <lasersaber> efloid, have you checked ubuntu sofware center?
[21:40] <HexaChop> Speiros, he is right. It is called nforce
[21:40] <HexaChop> Speiros, instead of GeForce.
[21:40] <Speiros> blomstertj brb, sorry...
[21:40] <bgd> I thought
[21:40] <mrpanda> https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2016-April/002684.html
[21:40] <basedmars> Irc will never die bgd
[21:41] <tchnq> Hi all. I need help.
[21:41] <mrpanda> would this be good idea for radeon 2 ?
[21:41] <tchnq> IRC forever)
[21:41] <mrpanda> hey tchnq
[21:41] <bgd> :)))
[21:41] <mrpanda> mostly need the tear-free idea
[21:41] <mrpanda> :)
[21:42] <lasersaber> dsnyders, you can try corssover linux before you buy it
[21:42] <bgd> so, this is the oficcial channel ?
[21:42] <blomstertj> bgd: yes it should be
[21:42] <tchnq> I had installed Google Chrome first. Then I'd installed google extension called "Hangouts". Once I did it - Ubuntu forgot Google Chrome icon, and replaced it everywhere with "Google Chrome Hangouts" icon and tries to launch it even if I uninstall Chrome extension.
[21:42] <lasersaber> bgd, for ubuntu? yes
[21:42] <bgd> yes
[21:42] <bgd> I like also ubuntu
[21:42] <thereyouare> efloid: ffmpeg
[21:43] <Guest62965> How can i ente into the German chat??
[21:43] <tchnq> I would appreciate any help here. Because I am stuck on it.
[21:43] <lasersaber> bgd, this is the ubuntu help channel, you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic for off topic chat
[21:44] <lasersaber> don't ask for help, just state your ubuntu issue..
[21:44] <bgd> thank you
[21:44] <reyz> HexaChop: Windows 10 is lightweight on my i7 CPU too, i dont think the Windows are bottlenecking the gaming performance :P
[21:44] <tchnq> I have latest GoogleChrome and Ubuntu 16.04
[21:44] <Speiros> blomstertj Thanks for that driver info.  The problem was the waiting, and my impatience, and not being able to have a computer up and running to do what I needed, when the old one worked.  When I have time to play, I'll try again, and would appreciate knowing about this driver.
[21:44] <jordanblabla> hi everyone, is there a way to store apt-get packages and install them offline lateron?
[21:44] <jordanblabla> im trying to get kali up and running but no wireless drivers when booting from the usb
[21:45] <jordanblabla> so i thought i install the apt-get stuff store it on usb and run /install it lateron is this possible somehow?
[21:45] <efloid> thereyouare: that just a cli app.  i mean a video editing app
[21:45] <thereyouare> efloid: its linux, its cli all the way down
[21:45] <mrpanda> efloid,: http://www.techdrivein.com/2013/09/top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux.htmlhttp://www.techdrivein.com/2013/09/top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux.html
[21:45] <lasersaber> you must have a registered user name for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:45] <HexaChop> Reyz, certainly, because you have a powerful CPU, like me. I have i7 6700K 4 Core 4.0 GHZ CPU and 2x Strix 1070 NVIDIA GPUs.
[21:46] <Mikerhinos> How could I know my motherboard SATA bottleneck ? I'm planning on getting back to a SSD raid-0 setup, this time with 4 SSD instead of 2, but not sure if my Sabertooth i55 will allow a perf upgrade from it.
[21:46] <thereyouare> "top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux", sounds like there is even more than 5 of them
[21:46] <mrpanda> umm
[21:46] <mrpanda> forgot wich one i was using think openshot
[21:46] <reyz> HexaChop: the games are optimized, when written, for windows
[21:46] <reyz> HexaChop: everything else is just a port
[21:46] <reyz> :D
[21:47] <anonymous> yae
[21:47] <mrpanda> keep on laffing in the free world
[21:47] <mrpanda> adios
[21:47] <tchnq> Guys any help for for me with this stupid google chrome hangouts icon?
[21:47] <blomstertj> Speiros: it's proprietary nvidia drivers but the ppa is here: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:47] <HexaChop> Reyz, there are some linux-only games, but mostly kinda yes.
[21:47] <blomstertj> Speiros: I haven't had any issues with it
[21:48] <reyz> HexaChop: ...who's playing linux only games? :P
[21:48] <thereyouare> I once tryed one video editor for linux, and what it was doing, that thing was first converting video to jpeg images and then its just shows image in GUI where you can use scroll bar to scroll over them, that was so cheap, I think it was back in 2008, after that I haven't tryed any video editors for linux, I don't even think good ones are exist
[21:48] <dsnyders> reyz: That's a switch.  Linux used to be the toy and windows the business OS.  Now games are on windows and linux is in the server rooms.
[21:48] <HexaChop> Reyz, certainly not me. :D
[21:48] <Speiros> blomstertj Okay...thanks.  I'll write it in my diary, and probably give it a go some time this week.
[21:50] <thereyouare> reyz: they games are not optimised for windows or linux they optimised for graphic drivers like radeon or nvidea or for graphics libraries, like directx or opengl, game doesn't see the OS itself it doesn't care if its linux or windows it sees drivers or libraries, you are you saying game engines optimised for windows ? so Unity3D optimised better for windows ? or games in Unreal Endine 4 are better
[21:50] <thereyouare> for windows ?
[21:50] <tchnq> Maybe there's a way to clean some temporary files from googlechromehangouts? Where can they be found?
[21:50] <blomstertj> Speiros: I haven't tried the sound from my GPU ever but it might work.  Vulkan is also in this ppa too so it's real easy.
[21:50] <blomstertj> tchnq: couldn't you just purge google chrome and reinstall it?
[21:50] <HexaChop> Thereyouare, go play windows games on linux then.
[21:51] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Building a NAS box for backups.  Which is better: software RAID backup1/backup2 mirror or  copy source to backup1 then copy backup1 to backup2 using rsync and cron?
[21:51] <thereyouare> HexaChop: I don't play, but I watch let's plays on youtube
[21:51] <reyz> thereyouare: Windows and Linux share the same drivers?
[21:52] <reyz> thereyouare: no
[21:52] <thereyouare> HexaChop: my PC barely can run Quake 4
[21:52] <Speiros> blomstertj Fair enough.  I'll have a look through the week, but if it fails, I'll just revert back to this platform, until it's "naturally" working as such.
[21:52] <Speiros> reyz No.:)
[21:52] <HexaChop> thereyouare you are missing out then.
[21:52] <thereyouare> "Millions of players... dozens of women... join today!"      -- World of Warcraft
[21:52] <thereyouare> no
[21:52] <reyz> thereyouare: both nVidia and AMD develop their drivers for what 99.9% of the gamers use, Windows
[21:52] <HexaChop> Thereyouare, no, not those games, try GTA V.
[21:53] <thereyouare> GTA 5 is 3.5 years old, do you thyink in next 2 years we will see GTA 6 ?
[21:53] <blomstertj> Got my font thing figured out.  The fonts install perfectly on my laptop so I just copied them from machine to machine.  Very annoying
[21:54] <thereyouare> I mean GTA 5 was released 5 years after GTA 4, so another 5 years and there have to be GTA 6
[21:54] <reyz> thereyouare: so Windows indirectly is optimized better for gaming compared to linux i guess :P
[21:54] <thereyouare> that was intimidating
[21:54] <blomstertj> thereyouare: DirectX is not going to help Linux, Vulkan will.
[21:54] <thereyouare> Ubuntindows
[21:54] <thereyouare> Ubundows
[21:55]  * Phanes pets ubottu on the head
[21:55] <reyz> I dont think that any company in the world will do much dev for Linux (gaming wise)
[21:55] <reyz> since there is not enough market for it
[21:55] <k1l_> thereyouare: can you put the general talk into #ubuntu-offtopic so this channel here is free for people with their support issues? thanks
[21:55] <thereyouare> DOOM 2016 was OpenGL only so its linux friendly
[21:55] <thereyouare> reyz: why do you think ?
[21:56] <thereyouare> reyz: why do you think DOOM 2016 choose OpenGL ?
[21:56] <blomstertj> True
[21:56] <reyz> thereyouare: i dont know, its just 1 company, 1 game
[21:56] <basedmars> that's where it's start. 1 game
[21:56] <reyz> thereyouare: i bet nVidia wont be arsed to develop for linux
[21:57] <KOLANICH> Hi all! Who can help me with launchpad API?
[21:57] <reyz> thereyouare: not worth the investment
[21:57] <HexaChop> Thereyouare maybe in 2022 or 2018.
[21:57] <Teddy8872> Hi Folks.
[21:57] <k1l_> !ot | reyz same goes for you
[21:57] <Teddy8872> Can anyone figure out why using the VGA on a monitor might deliver superior picture to using the HDMI?
[21:58] <dsnyders> Teddy8872: resolution differences, perhaps?
[21:58] <blomstertj> VGA and HDMI on the same component? IE motherboard vs GPU?
[21:59] <Teddy8872> http://www.howtogeek.com/285277/how-to-avoid-washed-out-colors-when-using-hdmi-on-your-pc/
[22:00] <blomstertj> What's your GPU? Intel, NVIDIA, AMD?
[22:00] <Teddy8872> Intel.
[22:01] <Teddy8872> How do I access the Intel using Ubuntu?
[22:01] <Teddy8872> If you have Intel graphics hardware, right-click your desktop background and select “Graphics Properties” to open the Intel Graphics Control Panel.
[22:01] <blomstertj> For a Windows machine.  You could find the Intel Linux utility.  You can try to look in the Color section in the Ubuntu Settings and mess around with different profiles
[22:01] <Teddy8872> Select Display > General Settings > Advanced and click “Full Range” under Quantization Range.
[22:02] <Teddy8872> I need to click FULL RANGE under Quant Range.
[22:02] <Teddy8872> How to figure out how to do that using Ubuntu?
[22:02] <HexaChop> Can somebody help me with ubuntu not booting for installation?
[22:03] <lasersaber> HexaChop, try to boot as recovery, then resume boot
[22:03] <blomstertj> You could try installing the Intel drivers: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[22:03] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, do what?
[22:03] <blomstertj> Find the one for your Ubuntu version there is separate ones for 16.10/16.04
[22:04] <Teddy8872> How do install the Intel drivers using Ubuntu?
[22:05] <lasersaber> HexaChop, when you boot with pick the adavnced option for recovery
[22:05] <Speiros> HexaChop, when you reboot with the disk, are you hitting f9 when prompted?
[22:05] <HexaChop> I am not being prompted, speiros.
[22:05] <Speiros> HexaChop So the computer is not turning on?
[22:06] <HexaChop> Speiros I see no f9 prompt.
[22:06] <lasersaber> HexaChop, are you booting from usb or cd?
[22:06] <Teddy8872> Folks?
[22:07] <HexaChop> Lasersaber usb.
[22:07] <Teddy8872> Some people report that this setting is reset to RGB Limited after they upgrade their graphics drivers. If your system was set to RGB Limited and you set it to RGB Full, an update may revert the setting to RGB Limited in the future. Keep an eye on it.
[22:07] <Teddy8872> I need to change RGB to FULL from Limited.
[22:07] <Teddy8872> Anyone know how to do this?
[22:07] <lasersaber> HexaChop, what tool did you use to create a ubunu live usb?
[22:07] <HexaChop> Rufus
[22:08] <HexaChop> Rufus, lasersaber, rufus...
[22:08] <Speiros> Ok, it flickers up on mine before the Ubuntu screen appears, along with the bios one.  Can you try it, and hit f9 as it does it?  What that f9 does is allows you to select the boot order, and you can choose your USB to boot from.  I don't have any experience with booting from USB though.
[22:09] <Teddy8872> Come on folks.
[22:09] <Teddy8872> This is the official Ubuntu channel.
[22:09] <Teddy8872> Where's the expert support here?
[22:09] <HexaChop> Speiros. Exact same thing as from CD.
[22:10] <HexaChop> Teddy8872, patience is key, buddy.
[22:10] <Speiros> HexaChop  Yeah, that's fair to say, but if I've never had the experience of practically doing it, then I can't teach it to anyone else with any confidence.
[22:10] <dsnyders> Teddy8872: http://losca.blogspot.ca/2013/11/workaround-for-setting-full-rgb-when.html might hold a clue.
[22:11] <lasersaber> HexaChop, might need to disable uefi and enable legacy in bios
[22:11] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, how to?
[22:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: if you have Windows 10 installed try disabling quick boot from the Power Settings in Control Panel
[22:12] <blomstertj> or fast boot or something like that
[22:13] <lasersaber> HexaChop, when the computer turns on hold the f10 key or it might be the DEL key
[22:13] <lasersaber> should take you into bios
[22:13] <Teddy8872> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kX83s9qv3Go/UpWuoM3V_gI/AAAAAAAAA10/pAxc5KEwWtQ/s1600/haswell_rgb_limited_fullrange.jpg
[22:13] <Teddy8872> Wow. Look at the difference.
[22:13] <HexaChop> bloomsterj, it is disabled, Linux will be if at all in other HDD.
[22:13] <Teddy8872> Now why would RGB Limited ever be used? That's sick.
[22:13] <HexaChop> Lasersabee, I know how to enter bios
[22:13] <lasersaber> ok
[22:13] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: wow
[22:14] <blomstertj> HexaChop: what computer is it? a desktop?
[22:14] <lasersaber> HexaChop, also change the boot order and make usb boot first
[22:14] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, How to quickly check if the Ubuntu is using RGB Limited or Full?
[22:15] <HexaChop> Bloomstertj, desktop, yes. Lasersaber already done that.
[22:15] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: not sure really.
[22:15] <Speiros> Teddy8872 In what application?  I think it's Limited, as the colours aren't all there as a flowing pattern, but squares.
[22:15] <Speiros> For fonts at least.
[22:15] <Teddy8872> Speiros, Exactly. I want to be sure I am using RGB Full, not Limited.
[22:16] <Teddy8872> How do I quickly check and fix this?
[22:16] <lasersaber> HexaChop,  sudo apt install inxi && sudo apt install pastebinit
[22:16] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, i cant even start ubuntu
[22:16] <Speiros> Teddy8872 There is GIMP though, and I think that has the ability to use millions of colours.  No idea how to specifically check though.  Have you looked on the ubuntu wiki?
[22:17] <lasersaber> HexaChop, sorry lol
[22:17] <Teddy8872> Speiros, Yes, I've looked around.
[22:17] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, np, bro.
[22:17] <lasersaber> HexaChop, try it with a cd then?
[22:18] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Weathered_colors_.28color_range_problem.29
[22:18] <HexaChop> Lasersaber I tried multiple USBs and their combos.
[22:18] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That's Arch Linux.
[22:18] <blomstertj> HexaChop: what did you use to make the USB?
[22:18] <Teddy8872> I use Ubuntu.
[22:18] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: It should still work
[22:18] <lasersaber> try using a cd instead
[22:18] <HexaChop> Blomsterj, rufus
[22:19] <merlin_> HP 15-ba022ng can i run linux on this notebook
[22:19] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, xrandr --output <HDMI> --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[22:19] <Teddy8872> I type this in the terminal?
[22:20] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, Rufus.
[22:20] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: This i believe xrandr --output HDMI --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[22:20] <Teddy8872> bash: HDMI: No such file or directory
[22:20] <Teddy8872> DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[22:20] <Teddy8872> HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[22:20] <Teddy8872> HDMI2 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[22:21] <Teddy8872> Then I tried HDMI2
[22:21] <Teddy8872> still no such file or dir.
[22:22] <blomstertj> strange that works in my terminal
[22:22] <blomstertj> just tells me I don't have an HDMI device
[22:22] <blomstertj> because i don't
[22:22] <Phanes> Teddy8872, let's get a pastebin of your efforts
[22:22] <Phanes> something's not right
[22:23] <Teddy8872> Phanes, Paste what?
[22:23] <Phanes> Teddy8872, paste.silogroup.org -- copy and paste you running the command in a terminal
[22:24] <Teddy8872> Phanes, http://paste.silogroup.org/eromipuduw.rb
[22:25] <lasersaber> Teddy8872, sudo apt install hardinfo
[22:25] <Phanes> there we go
[22:25] <Phanes> check out line 1 Teddy8872
 versus the actual name
[22:25] <Phanes> which wont be surrounded with <>
[22:25] <Teddy8872> So it should be HDMI2?
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Wow.
[22:26] <Teddy8872> I did that and my display improved dramatically.
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Amazing.
[22:26] <lasersaber> Teddy8872, run hardinfo and generate report then post info at paste.silogroup.org and share url
[22:26] <Teddy8872> xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Here's what I typed.
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Try that on yours.
[22:26] <Phanes> just typine `xrandr` tells you what the device names should be Teddy8872
[22:27] <Teddy8872> Why wouldn't Broadcast RGB Full be the default?
[22:27] <Teddy8872> This is much better than before.
[22:27] <blomstertj> Well it seems it tries to use Auto
[22:27] <blomstertj> it must have used the wrong one
[22:27] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, Rufus, sir.
[22:27] <Phanes> Teddy8872, if the auto mode isn't working you'll very likely end up writing your own Xorg.conf
[22:27] <Teddy8872> Wow. It's as if I just upgraded my monitor to a top of the line model. What a beautiful difference.
[22:27] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Probably not that hten
[22:28] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: xrandr should show the exact HDMI thing you need mine is HDMI-0
[22:28] <HexaChop> Blomstertj what do you mean?
[22:28] <Teddy8872> Phanes, Why not just made RGB Full the default?
[22:28] <Teddy8872> Why would anyone want Limited?
[22:28] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Rufus works pretty well for me
[22:28] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: If that just worked for you you can just make it a startup application
[22:29] <Teddy8872> Phanes, I read a review that this monitor I am using doesn't like the HDMI, that the VGA is much more vibrant. It appears the user simply didn't realize that the VGA was using FULL while his HDMI was using Limited.
[22:29] <blomstertj> Making an xorg.conf file would be a better idea but i'm not sure how to do that
[22:29] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, You mean this is going to revert to Limited every time I reboot?
[22:29] <HexaChop> What are exact options you picked when you we're using Rufus, blomstertj?
[22:29] <HexaChop> Were*
[22:29] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: It might try to reboot and see what happens
[22:29] <Phanes> Teddy8872, you may want to get familiar with Xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you want that to be persistent cleanly
[22:29] <akik> Teddy8872: you can run xrandr commands from /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[22:30] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, BTW, why is my HDMI2 active but not HDMI1?
[22:30] <Teddy8872> Is that normal?
[22:30] <Phanes> no
[22:30] <Phanes> do not use Xsession.d for xrandr calls
[22:30] <KOLANICH> Hi all! Who can help me with launchpad API?
[22:30] <Teddy8872> I'm just going to type xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full" in the Terminal when my computer boots up.
[22:30] <akik> Phanes: what do you mean?
[22:30] <Teddy8872> That's not hard. I don't reboot all that often.
[22:30] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: probably depends on what port it is.
[22:31] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: a better solution would be to make a xorg.conf file and set that in there but i'm not sure how to do that
[22:31] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, BTW, what's the disadvantage of using RGB Full?
[22:31] <Teddy8872> I don't see why it wouldn't be the default unless there's a disadvantage I don't realize.
[22:31] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: I wouldn't think any problem would exist.  My monitor is on Full and has been for years
[22:32] <blomstertj> HexaChop: the defaults.  Do you have UEFI or BIOS?
[22:32] <basedmars> I have no programming background and this is the only thing that I could find KOLANICH https://help.launchpad.net/API.
[22:32] <KOLANICH> basedmars: I have also found that, but the API is a bit messy
[22:32] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I have an old school BIOS so I just kept it at MBR partition scheme, FAt32, default cluster size, and left everything else alone
[22:32] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Well then, why not make Ubuntu default to Full?
[22:33] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: maybe some monitors don't work right? Probably some compatibility problem where ancient monitors can't do full.  Not sure exactly just guessing
[22:33] <HexaChop> Blomstertj UEFI
[22:33] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I've been using my monitor for 12 months or so on Limited
[22:33] <Teddy8872> because I didn't know any better.
[22:34] <JiminyTodd2> Hello all ! I was wondering if I could install a program in Ubuntu which would allow me to explore what is actually contained on a mobile broadband usb dongle ?
[22:34] <blomstertj> HexaChop: make sure RUFUS was set to GPT
[22:34] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: yeah I don't blame you automatic should choose the best mode but i guess it didn't.  I have a NVIDIA card and it is set easily with the GUI
[22:34] <HexaChop> Blomstertj but will that make any difference?
[22:34] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, How do you set it with the GUI?
[22:35] <blomstertj> HexaChop: your motherboard might not be reading it as a bootable device so it's skipping it if you used MBR
[22:35] <basedmars> If you mean the JSON or the python dictionary, it seems okay in this document KOLANICH https://help.launchpad.net/API/Hacking
[22:35] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: The Intel drivers might give you a GUI but I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.  I'm using the proprietary drivers for my NVIDIA card so I have the NVIDIA control panel
[22:35] <HexaChop> Blomstertj my usb was detected fine and booted into usb but linux startup fails with this: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:36] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Where do you access that control panel?
[22:37] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: If you installed the Intel driver package from the website I gave you it might have some sort of Intel control panel installed.  If you didn't install that you won't have a GUI for managing it
[22:37] <rustyraptor> Hi I am trying to share an internet connection from my desktop to my ubuntu server. I made an ethernet profile on the desktop and set it to 'share to other computers' and reconnected ethernet. Now it seems connected and I can ping websites but it doesn't return anything. As in it detects the website but the website won't respond. What should I do n
[22:37] <rustyraptor> ext?
[22:37] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Not sure what that means.  Maybe a bad image of Ubuntu?
[22:37] <HexaChop> Exact same with mint
[22:37] <KOLANICH> basedmars: I don't need help anymore, I've found what I needed
[22:38] <KOLANICH> by experimenting with API
[22:38] <blomstertj> HexaChop: try another flash drive?
[22:38] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Please again post the link.
[22:38] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: what version of ubuntu do you ahve? 16.04?
[22:38] <Teddy8872> The latest.
[22:38] <HexaChop> Basedmars, please help me, I am about to dump linux idea.
[22:39] <Teddy8872> I use Ubuntu MATE.
[22:39] <HexaChop> Blomstertj i tried with 2 different ones.
[22:39] <blomstertj> HexaChop: wow you have a stubborn computer.   I would if I could
[22:40] <Teddy8872> ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18 (>=0.9.4)
[22:40] <Teddy8872> So I need that.
[22:40] <Teddy8872> Where do I get that?
[22:41] <HexaChop> Basedmars, that is the worst thing you have suggested me thus far.
[22:41] <lasersaber> !live
[22:41] <Speiros> lol
[22:41] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I have.  Some weird security setting on my laptop.  I had to like turn off a hard drive security setting then it rebooted and turned itself off then cleared some TPM thing then my flash showed up.
[22:41] <Speiros> basedmars Fair dinkum mate.  Isn't it cheaper to kick it?
[22:41] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: What does lsb_release -a in the terminal give you?
[22:42] <Teddy8872> No LSB modules are available.
[22:42] <Teddy8872> So now what?
[22:42] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: make sure to put the -a in
[22:42] <Speiros> HexaChop, can I suggest, if it is just a soundcard issue, to go back to 14.4/
[22:42] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I did. I typed: lsb_release -a
[22:43] <HexaChop> Blomstertj my PC it's like it has a gag reflex or allergy to linux.
[22:43] <Speiros> HexaChop, then once you're used to the system, you'll be able to work on the other stuff that requires more work.
[22:43] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, http://paste.silogroup.org/zuriguqevi.css
[22:43] <HexaChop> Speiros, it just doesn't boot to ubuntu at all.
[22:43] <Teddy8872> ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18 (>=0.9.4) <--- where do I get this dependency and how?
[22:43] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Okay you have 16.04 then so try this: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb
[22:44] <Speiros> HexaChop I thought it was just the soundcard.  Did you try turning it off, and holding f9 as it came on?
[22:44] <Teddy8872> ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18 (>=0.9.4) <--- where do I get this dependency and how?
[22:44] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That's the error I get when I run that program.
[22:44] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: when you run that deb I just sent? Weird.  It should install it for you if it has it in the repos
[22:45] <HexaChop> No, I get this error when booting up. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:45] <HexaChop> Speiros.
[22:45] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Exaxctly. I get that error.
[22:45] <Teddy8872> So I need that dependency.
[22:45] <Teddy8872> Do you know how I can get it?
[22:46] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Not sure
[22:46] <Speiros> HexaChop What is SPROM?
[22:46] <HexaChop> Speiros, I get this error when booting into Linux http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:46] <Teddy8872> https://mintguide.org/system/73-intel-linux-graphics-drivers-installer-for-linux.html
[22:47] <HexaChop> Speiros, I honestly don't know.
[22:47] <Teddy8872> Hello, there. When I run the installer, it says "Error: Dependcency not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18(>=0.9.4)
[22:47] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: I don't have that version in my repos.  I only have 2-16
[22:47] <Speiros> HexaChop Okay...so that is with Ubuntu on your harddrive,yes?
[22:47] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I prob have the same version as you, since we're both using Ubuntu.
[22:47] <l0llip0p> Teddy8872: apt-get install pkg-name
[22:47] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That's why the installer is not working.
[22:48] <HexaChop> Speiros, no. When booting ino USB/CD Ubuntu.
[22:48] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: I can open the deb I just sent you fine though
[22:48] <welovfree> hi
[22:48] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb
[22:48] <lasersaber> BBL guys, bye! :)
[22:48] <welovfree> what's the name of the font used in terminal ?
[22:48] <welovfree> by default
[22:48] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I am using Ubuntu MATE.
[22:49] <Speiros> HexaChop It might be your image you've downloaded maybe.  I couldn't burn my own, so I got a friend to burn it, and then I bought the disk for the 14.4 just to make sure.
[22:49] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That one works..
[22:49] <l0llip0p> welovfree: you can see it from the settings of the terminal
[22:49] <Teddy8872> Why would that one work?
[22:49] <Speiros> HexaChop Unfortunately, I don't know much about the image either.
[22:49] <Teddy8872> I'm installing it now.
[22:49] <HexaChop> Speiros, I downloaded the torrent version.
[22:50] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: maybe you clicked hte wrong one? That's the one for 16.04 not 16.10
[22:50] <welovfree> l0llip0p, thanks
[22:50] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, What happens if I use the one for 16.04 on my 16.10?
[22:50] <welovfree>  /leave
[22:50] <Teddy8872> The one for 16.10 won't install for me.
[22:50] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't know mate.  I'm only guessing, based on past experience that failed me.
[22:50] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: according to the terminal command you have 16.04.1
[22:50] <Teddy8872> Oh.
[22:50] <Teddy8872> No wonder.
[22:51] <tchnq> Guys. Does UnityDock(and search) index the files in some possible config file?
[22:51] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, How come I don't have the latest Ubuntu?
[22:51] <Teddy8872> I've been updating my Ubuntu MATE religiously.
[22:51] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't even know how to check an image is downloaded correctly onto a disk.
[22:52] <Speiros> HexaChop...I mean a bootable image.
[22:52] <basedmars> you could check for sha256 for the iso
[22:52] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: 16.04.1 is the LTS version.  16.10 is the not LTS and those versions are newer but slightly less stable.  If you want to upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version you can change that in Software & Updates.  But right now after it's installed find Intel Graphics Tool
[22:52] <k1l_> tchnq: its a database. it uses zeitgeist
[22:52] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, OK. I'm fine using the latest LTS.
[22:52] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Run that and see if it gives you an Intel control panel at the end.  I don't know if it will or not.
[22:52] <Speiros> basedmars Can that help HexaChop maybe?
[22:52] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Since I'm not an Intel user
[22:52] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Right now it's downloading additional package files. It looks like it will take about 20 minutes.
[22:53] <basedmars> Yeah, it could be a corrupted iso problem Speiros
[22:53] <HexaChop> Speiros It's midnight and still I am trying to solve this.
[22:53] <Teddy8872> LTS = superior stability.
[22:53] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Okay well I have to go.  Good luck.  If you don't have a contorl panel to set it.  If your monitor goes to Limited after a reboot just make that xrandr command as a startup app.
[22:53] <HexaChop> LTS = Long Term Support
[22:54] <Speiros> HexaChop Yeah, it's frustrating.  Checking whether the image you've got is not corrupted is a good idea though.  Even if you want to come back after a sleep.
[22:54] <HexaChop> Speiros, I will sit until 4AM.
[22:54] <basedmars> command is 'sha256sum ubuntu.iso' HexaChop
[22:54] <Teddy8872> Additional package files dl is about 40% complete.
[22:54] <HexaChop> Basedmars, where to enter that code?
[22:55] <blomstertj> HexaChop: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034762
[22:55] <basedmars> In the terminal or command line or ctrl+alt+t HexaChop
[22:55] <blomstertj> HexaChop: You may have to boot the installer with advanced options
[22:55] <basedmars> wait aren't you the guy who posted the imgur earlier HexaChop ?
[22:55] <HexaChop> Blomstertj advanced options?
[22:56] <HexaChop> Basedmars the same. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:56] <blomstertj> HexaChop: trying to remember what the installer looks like
[22:57] <HexaChop> Blomstertj it's very purple. Lol.
[22:57] <basedmars> Oh you didn't get to the console actually HexaChop . blomstertj link is pretty much spot on
[22:58] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I think you have to start the installer and when it tells you Try Ubuntu, Install ubuntu, etc you have to press F6 Other Options
[22:58] <tchnq> It's making me mad! Why does Unity Search gives me "Google Chrome Hangouts" when it was already deleted from Chrome? How can I fix it?
[22:58] <HexaChop> Blomstertj I did that 3 times actually
[22:59] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Sounds to me you need to boot the installer with noacpi=1"
[23:00] <HexaChop> Let's try, if this fixes it, blomstertj, I will go shouting from the rooftops.
[23:01] <basedmars> Is this ubuntu already installed on the drive, or on live usb?
[23:02] <HexaChop> Btw, blomstertj, what that command does?
[23:02] <nope_> another234234234
[23:02] <Guest67406> br
[23:02] <Guest67406> alguem  br
[23:03] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I just installed the intel graphics update tool.
[23:03] <Teddy8872> Now how do I launch it?
[23:04] <basedmars> You could try editing it on grub menu GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi". based on the forum suggestion HexaChop. Go to grub menu. On ubuntu press e. Then edit as you will then press f10.
[23:04] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I believe it turns off acpi which is for newer hard drives and computers.  Not sure what ACPI really does though
[23:04] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I launched it now my typing that in the terminal.
[23:04] <blomstertj> basedmars: I believe he can't even get the installer to boot
[23:04] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: the Intel Graphics Tool will be in your list of applications
[23:05] <blomstertj> not sure where on MATE
[23:05] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, What benefits do I get from updating these Intel graphics?
[23:05] <basedmars> from the doc blomstertj "ACPI implementation might cause some problems (for instance random reboots or system lockups)"
[23:05] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: It might give you an Intel Control Panel of sorts.
[23:05] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: keyword, might
[23:06] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: If it does it should allow you to change your monitor settings easier and keep them
[23:06] <Speiros> HexaChop How's it going mate?
[23:06] <l0llip0p> tchnq: just let it be for while, I think it will go away
[23:06] <HexaChop> Speiros, not OK as of yet, mate.
[23:06] <Speiros> HexaChop ok.
[23:07] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, It's installing now. We'll see.
[23:07] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, no luck.
[23:07] <HexaChop> Thanks for asking, Speiros.
[23:07] <l0llip0p> tchnq: I had same kind of problem with one icon but it has gone now.
[23:07] <blomstertj> HexaChop: you might need it to be acpi=off
[23:07] <rustyraptor> nvm guys fixed it.
[23:08] <HexaChop> Blomstertj did it already.
[23:08] <blomstertj> HexaChop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:09] <HexaChop> I can't even reach that window., blomstertj.
[23:10] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page Options > F6 > use arrow keys to select acpi=off and press enter
[23:10] <blomstertj> HexaChop: If that doesn't help you, I'm at a loss
[23:10] <basedmars> Those cli 'gui' are a lifesaver. No more mucking around just select it
[23:11] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, instead of that window, it gives me this: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:11] <blomstertj> HexaChop: You can't even get to the menu that says Install ubuntu, Try Ubuntu before installing? Wow
[23:11] <blomstertj> HexaChop: It looks like it's complaining about a hard drive/ssd
[23:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Either it's a message that isn't true or it's telling you that you hard disk is dead or messed up
[23:12] <HexaChop> Blomstertj it shows try and install ubuntu but in that purple environment, not as a window.
[23:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: yeah that's where you want to press F6
[23:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: and select acpi=off from the list that should pop up
[23:13] <blomstertj> HexaChop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Boot-F6-Other.png
[23:13] <HexaChop> I did the acpi thingy, blomstertj.
[23:13] <basedmars> tell me it's working
[23:14] <HexaChop> Wrong.
[23:14] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I mean you could try every option on there lol.  You sure the hard drive isn't dead or almost dead?
[23:14] <HexaChop> Blomstertj aure not, otherwise I'd had to change all 7 of my hard drives.
[23:14] <blomstertj> HexaChop: oh my, you could try and unplug every one except the one you want to install to
[23:15] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, tried that too to no luck.
[23:15] <basedmars> So how is this hard drive. Like what year and the partition of it if you know. I'm curious about it by now since acpi problems are found on dead 2008 ubuntu thread
[23:15] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I'm out of ideas. Sorry
[23:16] <HexaChop> Blomstertj know that I simply love your support here. Highly appreciated, mate, Speiros and basedmars, too. :)
[23:16] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: how is it going?
[23:16] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Still installing.
[23:16] <Teddy8872> Says downloading stuff.
[23:16] <Teddy8872> My connection is a bit slow.
[23:17] <Speiros> HexaChop Sorry I can't do much to help mate.  I really don't know what to do.  It's frustrating when things aren't working out.
[23:17] <Teddy8872> I'm using a VPN. I could disconnect from the VPN and install directly but I'm already doing it this way so I'll just wait an hour or so.
[23:17] <HexaChop> It seems like my PC won, Speiros, Blomstertj, basedmars.
[23:17] <HexaChop> Spieros, true.
[23:18] <k1l_> HexaChop: so you tried ubuntu 16.10? and the usb works?
[23:18] <Speiros> HexaChop This is how I was with the soundcard issue at the time.
[23:18] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, BTW, my eyesight has been degraded since I looked at an invisible trackball laser while trying to clean my trackball while thinking it was unplugged when it wasn't.
[23:18] <HexaChop> K1| Yup to all.
[23:19] <k1l_> and what was the issue with the working 16.10 usb?
[23:19] <HexaChop> Spieros I bet. So frustrating that you'd be better off jumping out a plane without a parachute.
[23:19] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: huh.  Good luck though.  If it doesn't work just use xrandr to set it.  xrandr can do a lot of options
[23:20] <HexaChop> K1|, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu.
[23:20] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:20] <k1l_> HexaChop: on booting the usb?
[23:20] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I removed the ball on my trackball and I was looking right at the invisible laser. I didn't realize it was on.
[23:20] <k1l_> does the usb work on another pc/laptop?
[23:20] <stevwills> hello everyone
[23:20] <k1l_> did you try another usb port?
[23:21] <HexaChop> K1|_, it works always, just unable to get past this: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:22] <Speiros> HexaChop From when you turn the computer on, how many "screens" does it go through to reach that message?
[23:23] <stevwills> i just got banned by #archlinux :(
[23:23] <k1l_> HexaChop: this is a pc? does it have a dvd/cd/blueray drive?
[23:23] <HexaChop> K1_|, yup.
[23:23] <basedmars> They might not appreciate you using ubuntu distro and asking support from archlinux room stevwills . I'm guessing
[23:23] <k1l_> HexaChop: can you disable the dvd drive in bios. and (if that doesnt solve it) unplug the dvd drive?
[23:23] <HexaChop> Speiros, right after ubuntu purple screen, after try ubuntu is activated.
[23:24] <Speiros> HexaChop Ok...frustrating.
[23:24] <HexaChop> K1_| lemme try.
[23:24] <HexaChop> Speiros, alot.
[23:24] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I'm surprised you haven't given up and said Windows is better
[23:25] <blomstertj> HexaChop: That's what I think most people's reaction would be
[23:25] <Speiros> blomstertj  Not I mate:)
[23:25] <HexaChop> K1_| It is already disables in bios.
[23:25] <blomstertj> but I guess when every computer sold has windows preinstalled you get these problems unless you buy a linux desktop/laptop
[23:25] <Speiros> blomstertj For me "Windows" refers to the thing you throw computers out of with microsoft on it.
[23:25] <HexaChop> Blomstertj I have a huge will when I want something.
[23:26] <blomstertj> HexaChop: same here
[23:26] <basedmars> I would at this point. 1 hour is usually the time I gave up on something
[23:26] <k1l_> HexaChop: it might be worth a try first to set "nouveau.modeset=0" as kernel parameter on booting
[23:27] <blomstertj> My desktop will boot anything.  My laptop is a pain but it's an HP Elitebook
[23:27] <blomstertj> so tons of "security" "features"
[23:27] <HexaChop> Basedmars, I passed 12hour mark already.
[23:27] <HexaChop> K1|_ done that, too.
[23:27] <tchnq> Well. I tried to reset icons in unity dock (nofix), delete chrome configs (nofix), purge chrome and install it (nofix), what can I try more?
[23:27] <basedmars> All consumer machine for the past 10 year would boot up nicely I think for ubuntu and derivatives. performance is vary
[23:28] <tchnq> As well as "clean unity search"(nofix)
[23:28] <k1l_> tchnq: fix for what?
[23:30]  * tchnq better do some pushups instead of trying to fix this unbelievable bugs in ubuntu
[23:30] <Speiros> HexaChop You're demonstrating your patience well mate:)  It's a good quality to have.  I could learn a few things from it.
[23:30] <k1l_> tchnq: have you installed webapps ?
[23:30] <Speiros> tchnq Hi mate.  What do you mean regarding resetting icons?
[23:30] <HexaChop> Basedmars, blomstertj, Speiros, this is so frustrating, it is killing my brain cells at an alarming rate.
[23:31] <k1l_> tchnq: did you look at the launcher config?
[23:31] <HexaChop> Speiros, Thank You, mate. :)
[23:31] <Teddy8872> blomsterj quit.
[23:31] <stevwills> worth the laughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[23:31] <Teddy8872> Why did he quit?
[23:31] <HexaChop> Speiros, you are inspiring.
[23:31] <Speiros> HexaChop  Yes, it would be.  Maybe get a cup of coffee/tea?
[23:32] <Speiros> HexaChop Thanks man...my ex-wife might disagree:D
[23:32] <HexaChop> It is midnight, I would kinda ruin my sleepcycle, Speiros.
[23:32] <k1l_> tchnq: better answer in here so others can look at it and can give their solutions, too
[23:32] <wikeeks> Wowe
[23:32] <k1l_> stevwills: please keep this channel for technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for other chatter.
[23:32] <HexaChop> Speiros no wonder why she is EX Wife.
[23:33] <Speiros> lol, yeah.
[23:33] <tchnq> k1l_, sorry, was that a private answer? Yes, I've installed once an extension in google chrome called "hangouts" and since that moment I have this bug.
[23:33] <k1l_> tchnq: did you remove that webapp?
[23:33] <wikeeks> Guys am I gay
[23:34] <Speiros> wikeeks Do you use Ubuntu?
[23:34] <tchnq> k1l_, Yes. But the unity search and dock remembered once and forever "Google Chrome" as "Google Chrome Hangouts"; I haven't looked for a config.
[23:34] <HexaChop> Anyways, if anything comes up, Speiros, tell me. I will send you my either social media or Skype to your PMs maybe.
[23:34] <tchnq> Speiros, Unity Dock icons
[23:34] <l0llip0p> tchnq: Have cleared your unity history?
[23:34] <tchnq> l0llip0p, Yes, I've tried that - no help
[23:35] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't have skype, but yeah, for sure:)
[23:35] <k1l_> tchnq: you could look at the launcher starter config. maybe the name got changed by the hangouts install
[23:35] <tchnq> k1l_, can you give me a tip how to check that?
[23:36] <HexaChop> Speiros, skype is not like installin linux, mate. :) :D
[23:36] <ddquestion> Anyone here?
[23:36] <ddquestion> Or is this dead too?
[23:36] <l0llip0p> ddquestion: here we are
[23:36] <k1l_> tchnq: look at /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications
[23:37] <ddquestion> could i get a bit of a hand please?
 can i get a lil help please [09:35] <ddquestion> i have started a dd and cant remember the command to pull up how far into it it is, cant  even think of search query for google [09:35] <ddquestion> Well ive found something that might work, can someone double check it please? [09:35] <ddquestion> watch -n5 'sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)' [09:36] <ddquestion> Does that look good enough?
[23:37] <ddquestion> bugger
[23:38] <k1l_> ddquestion: you want to look at a running dd for monitoring?
[23:38] <ddquestion> I have started a DD  and i forgot to put the command in to give me updates on the way. Is there a good command that will tell you how much has been copied across withot stopping the copy?
[23:39] <k1l_> ddquestion: "sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd) "  will work in a new terminal
[23:39] <ddquestion> i am copying from HD1 -> HD2, i used iostat, that gives me whats going on at this second, but not overall completeion/data copied
[23:39] <k1l_> if you want an update every 5 seconds " watch -n5 'sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)' " will work
[23:39] <ddquestion> thanks mate
[23:40] <ddquestion> appreciate it
[23:40] <tchnq> k1l_, Yes. I've checked it - the name was wrong. I've changed it on "Google Chrome" but in Unity Search and on the panel it still shows me wrong name. Should I restart ubuntu?
[23:41] <tchnq> k1l_, the name of the icon is correct.
[23:42] <k1l_> tchnq: yes, a relogin could solve that
[23:42] <ddquestion> Thanks Thanks for your help k1l_
[23:42] <tchnq> k1l_, Do you mean simply to log out from useracc and then log back in?
[23:43] <tchnq> k1l_, Let me completely restart it
[23:43] <k1l_> tchnq: log out from desktop. that will close the unity session and start a new one on relogin
[23:45] <HexaChop> K1L, I will go rest now, please send me a pm so I could contact you when I wake up, friend.
[23:45] <k1l_> HexaChop: did you try to disable the dvd drive?
[23:46] <sandro> hi all. i'm trying to setup encrypted 3-linux multiboot. grub config seems elusively tricky. still, not giving up on the idea it can be done. any ideas how? thanks!
[23:46] <HexaChop> I am very tired, I did on my BIOS, but not physically.
[23:47] <HexaChop> K1, please PM me so I could contact you. Goodnight, mate.
[23:47] <k1l_> HexaChop: ok. just ask in here with the details of what is actually not working and people will try to help. i dont know if i am online then
[23:47] <basedmars> 12 hours will wear anyone
[23:47] <aruns> Sometimes it's because we should have made the foundation of the website or app from the get go in a certain way.
[23:47] <HexaChop> basedmars, 13, actually. Yeah, it will...
[23:47] <tchnq> k1l_, Well, now we are talking.... :P Mate, you are savior! Thanks a lot!!!!
[23:47] <aruns> Other times, it's because client keeps on changing requirements.
[23:47] <Speiros> HexaChop Rest well man:)
[23:48] <k1l_> tchnq: np
[23:48] <HexaChop> Thanks, Speiros :).
[23:48] <aruns> Main problem with this game is mission repetitiveness.
[23:48] <HexaChop> K1l_ you can PM me at any time so I could contact you. Every help would mean lots to me.
[23:48] <basedmars> I hope ubuntu will fix this somehow in the next lts release. Very outdated 'bug' so to speak
[23:48] <tchnq> k1l_, If you just could know, how much time was spent on this bug....I had it for two months. I even stopped using Ubuntu being dismoraled by this... )
[23:49] <HexaChop> Basedmara, what so you mean?
[23:49] <HexaChop> Basedmars, what do you mean?
[23:49] <k1l_> tchnq: i dont know about that bug. it was just a thought of a possible cause and so that solution.
[23:51] <HexaChop> This whole community is my friend for sure. Thank You everyone, despite the fact that I didn't solve my issue. It was still highly appreciated.
[23:51] <basedmars> I mean this bug is reported in 2008. Nearly a decade ago HexaChop. Anyway you should sleep :|
[23:51] <tchnq> k1l_, All the best wishes, mate!
[23:51] <tchnq> best wishes to all who tried to help me with this issue.
[23:51] <Speiros> basedmars Is it the same problem as back then?
[23:52] <ddquestion> does "cat" in linux copy bit for bit like dd does? Or is it just for replicating files?
[23:52] <basedmars> Could be. The screen log shows that much. I might be wrong Speiros
[23:53] <Speiros> basedmars It's a positive in one way if that's the case, as it can be recorded incrementally, and all these solutions can be streamlined to highlight the one that works.
[23:53] <Speiros> Then it can be entered as a page in the wiki, or wikis even.
[23:54] <HexaChop> Spiros, send this link to people. Maybe someone will know what to do. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:54] <Speiros> HexaChop The problem will be that people will want to help me with it, when I can't confirm or deny whether a step would work or not.
[23:55] <Speiros> HexaChop That being because it isn't me who's performing it on the computer.
[23:55] <basedmars> Maybe it would be helpful to the ubuntu devel team if we report this bug. I've never done bug reporting before. Not really a productive member here
[23:56] <HexaChop> True that... Spiros. That is obvious. I mean you couls try logging steps but it wouldn't work out... OK, tomorrow morning then we shall fix this problem and get my stubborn pc to work.
[23:56] <Speiros> basedmars All positive input is useful.  Even if it's supporting people, that is still an essential part of being a team member.
[23:57] <basedmars> Yeah that is true
[23:57] <HexaChop> True dat, Spiros.
[23:57] <Speiros> HexaChop Sure man.  The folks here will help get you past it.
[23:58] <HexaChop> I hope so, Speiros. It might break me if it was another 12 hours.
[23:58] <Speiros> basedmars Learning a little along the way means before you know it, you both know the answers, and can help people when they are frayed from stressing, burning out, etc.
[23:59] <Speiros> HexaChop All good.  Get some rest mate.  You need it:)
[23:59] <HexaChop> I will let tou guys know if I fix this and post the solution. Thank You. Goodnight friends. :)