[02:58] <nicolnx_> slow_motion: otherwise, no way to do it, only e-mail ;(
[02:58] <nicolnx_> BuzZy: no difference - both are frontends to same dpkg
[02:58] <zorglu_> BuzZy: there are no best here, just different purpose. adept is easier to search, and apt-get is more direct
[02:59] <uros1234> hello
[02:59] <nicolnx_> BuzZy: I'm happy to use dselect ;)
[02:59] <nicolnx_> BuzZy: with same result
[03:00] <uros1234> is it possible to get some help about kubuntu here?
[03:00] <CVirus> uros1234: I guess thats the only thing you could get here
[03:00] <zorglu_> uros1234: yep it is the place for it :)
[03:00] <uros1234> ok :)
[03:00] <uros1234> need some help with sound and java
[03:01] <uros1234> but soun is more important for now
[03:01] <Acidic32> how comes adept is saying that something else is using the database
[03:01] <uros1234> sound*
[03:01] <Acidic32> nothing else is running!
[03:01] <Melchiorre> uros1234: ok, what's the problem with sound?
[03:01] <nicolnx_> uros1234: are sure that this problem is kubintu specific?
[03:02] <uros1234> I have via 82cxxx chip set
[03:02] <nicolnx_> Acidic32: seems that you have another instance of adept running
[03:02] <uros1234> and alsa doesn't work
[03:02] <Acidic32> no i havent
[03:02] <nicolnx_> Acidic32:  do sudo killall -KILL adept for sure
[03:02] <slow_motion> @ <nicolnx_> on windows i used icq without problems and send files. since a half year i used kubuntu and can't send files with kopete (icq)
[03:02] <Acidic32> yeap done that
[03:03] <Acidic32> still wont let me
[03:03] <zorglu_> !adept fix crash
[03:03] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:03] <zorglu_> some command close to that :)
[03:03] <Acidic32> !adept
[03:03] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:03] <zorglu_>  !adept crash fix
[03:03] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:03] <zorglu_> this one :)
[03:03] <zorglu_> i was not that far :)
[03:05] <nicolnx_> slow_motion: and you got no error messages at all??
[03:05] <uros1234> Melchiorre: i don't get any sound. maybe there is something with config. but I'm new at linux scene so I don't know what i should do
[03:06] <slow_motion> yo
[03:06] <slow_motion> on icq
[03:06] <uros1234> nicolnx_: no it's not Kubuntu specific, also Ubuntu and debian dont work
[03:07] <nicolnx_> uros1234: try to increase pcm volume
[03:07] <Acidic31> !adept
[03:07] <slow_motion> on windows was a lot of errors that i can't remove
[03:07] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:07] <nicolnx_> slow_motion: but do you have some error messages from kopete when trying to transfer file?
[03:07] <Acidic31> !fix adept
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <uros1234> nicolnx_: cant do that, because driver seems to be unavailable or borken or not detected
[03:08] <Acidic31> !adept crash
[03:08] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:08] <Acidic31> !adept fix
[03:08] <Acidic31> mm
[03:08] <nicolnx_> uros1234: can you show lspci info about you soundcard?
[03:08] <nicolnx_> !xgl
[03:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:08] <Acidic31> ahh
[03:08] <Acidic31> !adept crash-fix
[03:08] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[03:08] <Acidic31> !adept-crash-fix
[03:08] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:09] <Melchiorre> !via sound
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <uros1234> nicolnx_: 0000:00:0c.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40)
[03:11] <nicolnx_> uros1234: try to sudo modprobe snd_via82xx
[03:13] <uros1234> nicolnx_: what should this command return? nothing happend
[03:14] <nicolnx_> uros1234: seems good. try to use mixer again
[03:14] <nicolnx_> uros1234: try sudo alsamixer
[03:14] <uros1234> current no mixer seems to be available
[03:14] <uros1234> no mixer at all
[03:15] <nicolnx_> uros1234: even with sudo alsamixer?
[03:15] <zorglu_> lsmod and dmesg to see what happended to the modprobe ?
[03:15] <uros1234> i got some dos type pic
[03:16] <nicolnx_> uros1234: do you see some gauges there?
[03:16] <uros1234> yes i have
[03:17] <nicolnx_> uros1234: try to increase master volume
[03:17] <nicolnx_> uros1234: with "up" button
[03:17] <uros1234> and i can set them
[03:17] <nicolnx_> uros1234: set on maximum
[03:17] <nicolnx_> uros1234: all of them
[03:18] <nicolnx_> uros1234: if you can, seems that there is a permissions problem
[03:18] <nicolnx_> uros1234: you need to include your user into group 'audio'
[03:19] <nicolnx_> uros1234: sudo usermod -G audio -a <username> then relogin
[03:19] <markeib> how do i get my machine to start kdm instead of gdm?
[03:19] <uros1234> all gauge are off
[03:20] <nicolnx_> uros1234: you need to put them on
[03:20] <uros1234> how i can swich them on
[03:20] <Tm_T> markeib: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" should ask about it
[03:20] <nicolnx_> uros1234: using "up" button
[03:20] <nicolnx_> uros1234: on your keyboard
[03:20] <markeib> ok thx ill tyry
[03:20] <uros1234> i have done that
[03:21] <nicolnx_> uros1234: also show me output of cat /etc/group | grep audio
[03:21] <uros1234> but under Item: i get Master [off]  for exp.
[03:22] <markeib> and how do i configure kdm?
[03:22] <nicolnx_> uros1234: press 'm" button to unmute master channel
[03:22] <uros1234> bash: /etc/group: Permission denied
[03:22] <nicolnx_> uros1234: sudo cat /etc/group | grep audio of course ;)
[03:24] <uros1234> audio:x:29:urosb
[03:26] <nicolnx_> uros1234: is urosb the name under which you are logged in now?
[03:26] <Dink> Has anyone installed dvdrip on edgy ??? Im getting conflict errors... looking for video-dvdrip <= 0.50.10-0.0
[03:26] <uros1234> yes
[03:26] <Dr-Doud> salut salut
[03:26] <nicolnx_> uros1234: so, unmuting the master channel should help you
[03:27] <Dink> how did you bypass the video-dvdrip part ?
[03:27] <Dr-Doud> hello there
[03:27] <Dr-Doud> need help on setuping my ubuntu for sending mail
[03:27] <nicolnx_> having some broken packages on edgy after installing xgl. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25653/ please help!
[03:28] <uros1234> how do i do it in kde?
[03:29] <nicolnx_> uros1234: control panel -> sound system :: have the sound system enabled?
[03:30] <uros1234> i have it enabled
[03:30] <chris_> Hello!
[03:31] <chris_> Hey, can I delete files in /var/cache/apt/archives ? The .deb files are taking up huge amounts of space...
[03:31] <uros1234> but i still don't get the mixer
[03:32] <nicolnx_> uros1234: try to run kmix from console
[03:32] <nicolnx_> chris_: yes, rou can
[03:32] <uros1234> how?
[03:33] <nicolnx_> uros1234: run konsole
[03:33] <nicolnx_> uros1234: an type kmix there
[03:33] <uros1234> done
[03:33] <nicolnx_> uros1234: still have no mixer?
[03:33] <uros1234> still can't get any mixer to choose from
[03:33] <nicolnx_> uros1234: and no error messages ?
[03:34] <uros1234> correct
[03:35] <chris_> Is it reasonable to use Synaptic to add packages?  I don't see them in the KDE menus (I recently switched to kubuntu).
[03:35] <chris_> Should I use another tool?
[03:35] <malix> hi did someone has noted this bug on Firefox? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840
[03:36] <malix> or can help me to fix it
[03:36] <nicolnx_> chris_: no, you shouldn't. just try to relogin to kde
[03:37] <chris_> nicolnx_: I'm confused.  KDE is running fine, but I want to install some packages.
[03:37] <nicolnx_> chris_: so, what's the problem? use dselect or aptitude or adept or synaptic as well
[03:38] <chris_> nicolnx_: Just curious if there's a recommended one, and in particular, one that sets up the KDE main menu to have the new app.
[03:38] <chris_> When I used Synaptic under ubuntu, it added the new app to the ubuntu menu tree.
[03:38] <chris_> just curious :-)
[03:39] <nicolnx_> chris_: it doesn't depend on package manager, only on installed package.
[03:40] <nicolnx_> chris_: sometimes logout and login helps to see main menu entries ;)
[03:40] <chris_> Thanks!
[03:43] <TFrog> morning all
[03:43] <markeib> is it really that dangerous to delete some things from my ntfs disk?
[03:43] <nicolnx_> TFrog: morning... I have 16:45 on my clocks ;)
[03:44] <TFrog> oh so sorry.  afternoon or evening for those in europe and the far east
[03:44] <nicolnx_> markeib: don't think so - ntfs driver aren't market as dangerous in kernel for now
[03:45] <TFrog> nicolnx, have you been reading anything about dreamscape?
[03:47] <nicolnx_> TFrog: dreamscape? hmm... is it some 3DS Max stuff?
[03:47] <TFrog> actually no nicolnx_.  it's a method being discussed on how to get all the hardware drivers talking under one roof so to speak.
[03:48] <TFrog> and yes it's for linux
[03:48] <TFrog> company called dreamscape is trying to do for linux what Bill Gates and Microsoft did for Windows
[03:49] <tareq_> hi
[03:49] <tareq_> any body here wanna chat
[03:50] <markeib> yes
[03:50] <markeib> if you can tell me how to only display icons in my external taskbar!
[03:51] <nicolnx_> TFrog: seems to be nice, but without hardware vendors support it is some kind of time wasting IMHO
[03:51] <markeib> good, now he's gone. anybody else?
[03:51] <uros1234> nicolnx_: I?ve restarted computer and I still can't get kmix to work on kde
[03:51] <Dr-Doud> does anyone know a little about SMTP server?
[03:51] <flaz> yes
[03:51] <snook353> i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to kubuntu LTS.  how do i remove gnome?
[03:51] <Dr-Doud> I need to send mails
[03:51] <Dr-Doud> I'm under my work network
[03:52] <nicolnx_> uros1234: hmm... it's hard to determine your problem... ;(
[03:52] <flaz> do you have a mailserver
[03:53] <Dr-Doud> for sure
[03:53] <Dr-Doud> under my Windows 2000 PC I got a setup with the Exchange server
[03:53] <flaz> uh.exchange?
[03:53] <Dr-Doud> yeah I know
[03:53] <uros1234> nicolnx_: maybe I should reinstall kubuntu
[03:54] <Dr-Doud> I thought this one will need a kind of valid NT account, no?
[03:54] <snook353> i guess i have to remove each gnome thing in synaptic
[03:54] <nicolnx_> uros1234: you can try as a last argument
[03:54] <flaz> sure you need a valid domain account
[03:54] <Dr-Doud> snook353: I did that, yep. It's working
[03:54] <snook353> ok, thanks dr-doud !
[03:55] <snook353> this is a pleasure.  ubuntu lts gave me misery on my laptop
[03:55] <Dr-Doud> the weird thing is my PC is connected to the network. I can do SAMBA, I can surf on the web, etc. I cannot send mails?!
[03:55] <Dr-Doud> snook353: you're welcome
[03:55] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: you should use an smtp server of your isp
[03:55] <uros1234> nicolnx_: thanx for now
[03:56] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: isp ?
[03:56] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: how can I identify a SMTP server?
[03:57] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: in your kmail settings
[03:57] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: or whatever mail program you use
[03:57] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: well I was trying with (simple) mail command line but
[03:58] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: I don't think that using mail command for email is a best choice on desktop ;)
[03:58] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: try kmail instead
[03:59] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: Ok let's try with kmail
[04:00] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: local, POP3, IMAP, IMAP (disconnected), maildir?
[04:02] <SuperSub> does anyone know where i can find an invetory managment system for ubuntu????
[04:03] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: it is your incoming mail setting
[04:04] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: I'm using POP3, but it depends on your mail server
[04:04] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: exchange!!!
[04:04] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: Microsoft Exchange
[04:05] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: try imap
[04:07] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: tried --> unsuccessfull
[04:07] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: "Cannot connect to exchange server"
[04:08] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: pop3 with same result?
[04:08] <kakkl> OMFG http://www.nanoy.org/se.php?id=65 got defaced LOL
[04:10] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: same
[04:11] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: let me think...
[04:11] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: Error Msg : The server (Exchange I guess) has returned : 5.7.4 Unrecognized authentication type
[04:12] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: good, I'll ask friends, wait for a while
[04:12] <Dr-Doud> nicolnx_: ok
[04:16] <nicolnx_> Dr-Doud: what are your settings on "extras" tab into pop3 account settings?
[04:16] <[niceday] > Dr-Doud: which authentication type did you use ? like PLAIN, LOGIN ...
[04:17] <[niceday] > Dr-Doud: you can check the types that your server is supporting with the button on "extra" tab
[04:23] <linux_> hi people
[04:25] <mini_gamer1896> hello
[04:27] <Dr-Doud> [niceday] : When I press the button "check what the server can do" it returns "Cannot connect to the server"
[04:28] <[niceday] > Dr-Doud: did you check your server address ? but IMHO it'll be rather difficult to connecte an Exchange via POP3 or IMAP4. you should ask your sysadmin
[04:28] <[niceday] > connect
[04:29] <Dr-Doud> [niceday] : Oh yes I will
[04:29] <Dr-Doud> [niceday] : Apparently there is a Danish company that develops a MAPI connector (GPL) to Exchange
[04:30] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:32] <kompressor> poseidon are you there
[04:33] <pierre_g> hello
[04:34] <kompressor> poseidon come in please!
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:36] <pierre_g> i still cant change the resolution on my laptop and kubuntu
[04:38] <hyper> hello abattoir :)
[04:38] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[04:38] <hyper> abattoir: trying now to figure out how to setup an ftp server :)
[04:40] <abattoir> hyper: heh :P
[04:40] <hyper> abattoir: in windows it was easy :)
[04:40] <abattoir> !ftp
[04:40] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[04:40] <abattoir> hyper: ^^^^ ;)
[04:41] <hyper> abattoir: well, I have proftpd installed but  I still need to configure... on windows WarFTP has such a nice graphical configuration....
[04:42] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys what is the command to add beryl-manager to /.kde/Autostart?
[04:43] <Dr-Doud> ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:43] <nicolnx_> [BTF] Chm0d: use drug'n'drop
[04:43] <Dr-Doud> or use drag'n'drop :)
[04:43] <pierre_g> i still cant change the resolution of my laptop and kubuntu... anyone who can help a little?
[04:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> well fudge nut i forgot the tilde thats what was wrong
[04:49] <bill__> Newbie questio..... sorry.  I have a ATI Radeon 9500 with dual head.  How do I make both screens work?  I've been to the system settings, display section, but no luck.
[04:52] <zorglu_> !xinerama
[04:53] <zorglu_> and make you got the dri working before trying the multi screen
[04:53] <zorglu_> glxinfo | grep rendered to know if you got the dri working
[04:56] <Hawkwind> zorglu_: Did you speak to Seveas ?  I believe he has added you as an editor to the bot
[05:03] <ehsan> hey ppl, how can i get hardware drivers for my notebook, it is a VAIO FS and the sony itself doesnot provide me with the drivers for linux,
[05:03] <chx> is there a 'top' panel applet?
[05:04] <chx> given the name , it's hard to google for one
[05:05] <bill__> Ok, so when I grep glxinfo for rend I get
[05:05] <bill__> firefox
[05:06] <bill__> direct rendering: No
[05:06] <bill__> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:06] <bill__> ignore that firefox line.  :-)
[05:18] <bill__> Hmmm, so how do I get the DRI working?
[05:19] <m`kay> hi leute, was mache ich denn, wenn adept abgestrzt ist und ich jetzt gesagt kriege, dass ich nicht mehr rein kann, weil irgendein prozess die datenbank belegt?
[05:19] <tomaz> !gr
[05:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[05:19] <tomaz> u.u
[05:21] <m`kay> oh, sry... adept is crashed and i open it new, but changes will not take effect, because a ?process? is blocking this
[05:21] <tomaz> lock for a file named .lock inside the adept folder
[05:21] <tomaz> and delete it =)
[05:22] <tomaz> and you can try the command line
[05:22] <m`kay> tomaz really??
[05:22] <mindspin> m`kay: !de
[05:23] <tomaz> apt-cache search programm name
[05:23] <mindspin> !de
[05:23] <tomaz> apt-get install programm name
[05:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:23] <tomaz> so, it's !de and not !gr. o.o
[05:23] <tomaz> o thougth !gr will be Germany =P
[05:23] <mindspin> or ps -aux | grep adept
[05:23] <mindspin> and kill that process
[05:24] <m`kay> thx guys, i will try it
[05:24] <m`kay> tomaz right, del the lockfile... great thx to you and mindspin *g*
[05:25] <soulrider> does anyone know why i cant rename a folder? no file sin it are being used and im running as root tooo
[05:25] <trappist> soulrider: why does it tell you?
[05:25] <soulrider> could not be renamed lol
[05:25] <trappist> soulrider: do it on the command line
[05:25] <soulrider> i tried to do it
[05:26] <soulrider> and i get
[05:26] <soulrider> Bareword "Dominio" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[05:26] <soulrider> folder is called Dominio, i want it to be dominio
[05:26] <soulrider> i used
[05:26] <soulrider> rename Dominio dominio
[05:26] <trappist> soulrider: mv, not rename
[05:26] <mindspin> mv Domino domino
[05:26] <soulrider> :O
[05:26] <tomaz> u.u'
[05:26] <soulrider> why mv?
[05:27] <soulrider> mv: cannot move `Dominio' to `dominio': File exists
[05:27] <mindspin> rename is a DOS afaik
[05:27] <soulrider> =/
[05:27] <trappist> mindspin: rename is also a perl script
[05:27] <trappist> soulrider: is this on a windows filesystem? like fat32?
[05:27] <mindspin> therefore the error with "strict"
[05:27] <soulrider> uhm
[05:27] <soulrider> good question
[05:27] <soulrider> dunno =/
[05:27] <soulrider> its my pen drive
[05:28] <trappist> soulrider: then it's fat32, which is case-insensitive, so you can't just change the case of a letter in the filename
[05:28] <soulrider> damn
[05:28] <trappist> soulrider: what you CAN do
[05:28] <mindspin> call it dominio 1
[05:28] <mindspin> and then dominio
[05:28] <soulrider> yea
[05:28] <soulrider> iw as thinking of that
[05:28] <trappist> exactly
[05:29] <soulrider> i had no idea i ahd ot use mv
[05:29] <soulrider> dman, i hate case insensitive stuff! :P
[05:29] <soulrider> i got used to case sensitive and i cant go back lol
[05:30] <UKF^vortex> hi
[05:30] <soulrider> no wonder eclipse couldnt rename them either
[05:30] <UKF^vortex> I have a problem with php5
[05:30] <soulrider> thanks a lot for hte help!!
[05:30] <tomaz> hum
[05:30] <tomaz> pen drives are fat32?
[05:30] <UKF^vortex> Fatal error: Call to undefined function session_start()  - any idea how to fix this ?
[05:30] <tomaz> flash memory is fat? o.O"
[05:30] <trappist> tomaz: by default, yeah
[05:31] <tomaz> UKF: this is php?
[05:31] <tomaz> if so, /join ##php
[05:38] <arcasa> Boobs.
[05:39] <Tm_T> arcasa: you're sure?
[05:39] <arcasa> Very.
[05:40] <highneko> What's the resize window keyboard shortcut?
[05:40] <tomaz> it depends on the app
[05:40] <Tm_T> Hawkwind: aah I thought I have never seen this guy
[05:40] <tomaz> for fullscreen could bg F, F11, or Ctrl+ F
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Tm_T: He got kicked yesterday for causing quite an uproar in here
[05:41] <highneko> Kinda like how ctrl is for moving windows.
[05:41] <Tm_T> highneko: I see
[05:41] <highneko> Err Alt*
[05:42] <tristanmike> Hi, my KNotify crashes all the time, is there way I can fix this ?
[05:42] <Tm_T> Hawkwind: roger
[05:51] <bill__> Still looking for help with dual head support.  I did a sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, and now when I do a glxinfo | grep rend i get
[05:51] <bill__> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:51] <bill__> direct rendering: No
[05:51] <bill__>     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[05:51] <bill__> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:51] <bones78> I'm having problems accessing the forums I keep getting this message.  Any ideas please?
[05:51] <bill__> need to know how to turn on DRI
[05:51] <bones78> Fatal error: Direct instantiation of vB_Postbit class prohibited. Use the vB_Postbit_Factory class. in /includes/class_postbit.php on line 239
[05:52] <inam> hi all... im looking for a "ubuntu... linux for human beings" image to put in my blog's side bar... anyone any ideas ?
[05:53] <bill__> do I just put a load "dri" in my xorg.conf file?
[05:54] <Blacken> inam: http://www.ubuntu.com has a bunch of images, I think.
[05:56] <Saw^> Is it a "right way" to install new version of ubuntu by just changing revision name to apt's sources.list and doing dist-upgrade?
[05:58] <tomaz> dont know
[05:58] <tomaz> i always format my partition where kubuntu is installed
[05:58] <tomaz> i think that's safer o.o
[05:58] <tomaz> (but my ~ directory remains untouched)
[05:59] <MDCore> guys.. how do I enable file sharing ?
[06:00] <Saw^> tomaz: I've always updated debian by just changing revision names to sources.list, seems like working with ubuntu too (debian based). I guess I'll try that install cd for curiosity
[06:01] <tomaz> it works with ubuntu
[06:01] <tomaz> and with debian
[06:01] <tomaz> but, i don't kwnow if it will remove all dead and unused files
[06:01] <tomaz> so, i format and do a fresh install
[06:01] <tomaz> =)
[06:02] <tomaz> MDCore, what do you mean by file sharing? you mean over the internet with a p2p protocol or over the network?
[06:03] <Saw^> Well it would be good to do that, but it's pretty much work there... probably been over a year when I reinstalled fully (changed to ubuntu then)
[06:03] <MDCore> tomaz: over the network.
[06:03] <MDCore> I go to the file menu option in konq -> folder properties -> sharing
[06:03] <MDCore> but it's all greyed out.
[06:03] <MDCore> I even tried kdesu konq but it's still greyed out.
[06:04] <zorglu_> MDCore: there is a applet called filed sharing, i think it is related, it shares the file thru a http server, which is accessible to everybody
[06:04] <MDCore> zorglu_: ok. Let me look at that. I'm more thinking SMB sharing.. that's what I presumed the sharing component did.
[06:05] <ypsila> good evening
[06:05] <zorglu_> MDCore: if you are firewall/natted, some port opening may be involved to actually be reachable
[06:05] <MDCore> yeah, there's Share and Sharing
[06:05] <MDCore> zorglu_: thanks. Don't think that'll be a problem
[06:05] <zorglu_> MDCore: not thing which is related to the applet imtalking to
[06:05] <MDCore> :)
[06:05] <zorglu_> ok :)
[06:06] <zorglu_> MDCore: for smb, there is kmenu -> system setting -> sharing which handle smb
[06:07] <MDCore> zorglu_: cool, went there, but it's greyed out, despite logging in as admin... am I missing some package?
[06:08] <regis_> salut
[06:08] <zorglu_> MDCore: you need to go in 'administrator mode'. on my install i got issue with that for reasons unknown to me
[06:08] <ypsila> bon soir
[06:08] <zorglu_> MDCore: so i use 'kdesu kcontrol'
[06:08] <zorglu_> !fr
[06:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:08] <regis_> je suis novice dans ubuntu et toi
[06:09] <ypsila> auf nach #kubuntu-de fr die deutsche version ;-)
[06:09] <zorglu_> "allez sur" :)
[06:09] <regis_> au revoir
[06:09] <Blacken> Good, quick image editors along the level of Microsoft Paint...any suggestions?
[06:10] <tomaz> yeh
[06:10] <ypsila> mais regis a du compris :-)
[06:10] <tomaz> kolourpaint
[06:10] <tomaz> it's almost the same as ms paint
[06:10] <tomaz> ;)
[06:10] <Blacken> Cool. I'm just ripping a chunk out of a screenshot, so I don't want to install the hideosity of GIMP.
[06:10] <zorglu_> tomaz: i never tried kolourpaint, is it easier than krita ?
[06:10] <Blacken> Thanks.
[06:11] <tomaz> it is like paint
[06:11] <tomaz> you dont have filters and layers
[06:11] <zorglu_> ok cool :)
[06:11] <Blacken> Good.
[06:11] <tomaz> you only need gimp or krita if you are a serious image manipulator
[06:11] <tomaz> i need to use Inkscape and Gimp (krita still does not suit my needs)
[06:12] <tomaz> because i work with fancy graphics.
[06:12] <tomaz> but, i have an example of what you could do with kolourpaint
[06:12] <ypsila> tomaz: but for most ppl gimp has to much features
[06:12] <tomaz> wanna see?
[06:12] <tomaz> yeh
[06:12] <tomaz> that's true
[06:13] <kyaneos> hello
[06:13] <ypsila> good evening
[06:13] <ypsila> tomaz:  you are from brazil?
[06:13] <tomaz> there should be a easy and lightway to do some thinks like change the darkness of the picture than with gimp or krita
[06:13] <tomaz> yes
[06:14] <tomaz> i'm from Salvador
[06:14] <ypsila> nice
[06:14] <tomaz> http://www.flogao.com.br/tumaix/foto/09/11054373 -> this is just an happy example of my work with Kolourpaint
[06:14] <ypsila> tomaz:  ppl should be able to take photos :-) then they wouldn't need any progs to do that for tehem
[06:14] <tomaz> http://www.flogao.com.br/tumaix/foto/022/46909022 -> and this is using Gimp and Inkscape.
[06:16] <ypsila> tomaz: looks like a real painting, although I prefer a brush
[06:16] <tomaz> it's too hard for ppl to learn how to take photos. i always get some photos like... COMPLETELY DARK on the front and with LOTS of Ligth on the back. the main reason of the photo, like the statue or the ppl, are in the shadow, and a tree is on the light, or a bulding.
[06:16] <tomaz> i don't know how to control a brush >_<
[06:16] <tomaz> i just can only use a box to draw =D
[06:17] <ypsila> tomaz: I know, we used to have mini-labs, but since that nothing changed with digi-cams
[06:17] <ypsila> tomaz: everbody tries to do at his best
[06:17] <tomaz> yeh, but they just don't know how =/
[06:18] <tomaz> i learn how to photograph the hard way
[06:18] <ypsila> tomaz: we spend quite a lot of time to tell them, but like they do not read manuals, the do not listen
[06:18] <tomaz> stealed my brother digi cam and start taking pictures =D
[06:18] <Saw^> tomaz: btw, it seems like they do the same thing to sources.list with sed now that I read the instructions...
[06:19] <tomaz> hum?
[06:19] <tomaz> didin't get it. (not native english speaker)
[06:20] <tomaz> i'm almost downloading the Edgy Eft beta to try it
[06:21] <Saw^> tomaz: they say in the webpage that one way to do upgrading, is to change the revision name with editor or sed in the sources.list and then use apt-get
[06:22] <tomaz> ah =)
[06:22] <tomaz> it will update with no problems
[06:22] <tomaz> i'm sure of this
[06:22] <tomaz> but i don't know if they will remove the files that are no longer used,
[06:23] <tomaz> for example, they will install kernel 2.6.17, it will delete the 2.6.15?
[06:23] <tomaz> or will place it somewhere else so i can try the 2.6.15 when i wish to?
[06:25] <MDCore> tomaz: it keeps older kernels
[06:25] <MDCore> tomaz: you get the option of choosing them at boot time
[06:27] <tomaz> yes
[06:27] <tomaz> so, because of this
[06:27] <tomaz> i do a fresh install
[06:28] <tomaz> my ~ is in another partition and my /downloads too
[06:28] <trappist> tomaz: you can uninstall the old kernels.  it just doesn't happen automatically.
[06:28] <tomaz> i will need to uninstall lots and lots of programs
[06:28] <tomaz> that i compiled by hand
[06:28] <tomaz> or used a .deb to install
[06:29] <tomaz> a fresh install for me is simpler.
[06:32] <excitatory> does anyone know where to obtain a binary or compile the latest aotuv oggenc?
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory, the latest what?
[06:34] <ypsila> Ogg Vorbis Encoder 1.1 - MP3 Encoder Software - [MPeX.net]
[06:34] <morghanphoenix> Any suggestions for a cheap, but still good video card that works well with Kubuntu?
[06:35] <Tm_T> morghanphoenix: some nvidia perhaps?
[06:35] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: video = tv? hauppauge
[06:35] <Hawkwind> morghanphoenix: Nvidia FX5200 you can get for $30 - $40 all day long
[06:36] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[06:36] <morghanphoenix> I have an ati rage 128 at the moment, it's just not working out.
[06:37] <morghanphoenix> 7 years old is a little out of date.
[06:37] <Tm_T> I have fx5700
[06:37] <tomaz> Hawkwind, if I say to you that here in brazil we pay +- US$ 200 for this board, do you will belive me?
[06:37] <Tm_T> pretty good, even for gaming and shouldn't be expensive anymore :p
[06:37] <Hawkwind> tomaz: I would believe you.  I know things are expensive there
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> morghanphoenix, thats my card, the one Hawkwind suggested
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> works great and can handle XGL
[06:38] <tomaz> u.u , i'm out of video card because it's cheaper to buy an Wii on canada just a 1024 RAM in brazil.
[06:38] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: i have a unusual ATI in my laptop, the proprietary driver is not supporting it but dri.sourceforge.net does
[06:39] <morghanphoenix> hmm, that's my biggest problem, it's got 16megs of ram, but x pitches a fit whenever I tell it it has vram.
[06:41] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: it's considered to be the best version of the ogg vorbis encoder.. the xiph vorbis team generally accept all of this guys patches and merges them into the official.  they've been very behind though, and his latest work almost completely removes audible artifacts at q4-6.  it's been out for months and months now, and both frustrating that the vorbis team doesn't catch up, and/or the fact that ubuntu doesn't have a packa
[06:41] <excitatory> h.
[06:42] <tomaz> hum
[06:42] <tomaz> there are Oggplayers like the ipod?
[06:42] <zorglu_> tomaz: about the higher price of the hardware for you, to buy thru the internet and mailed to you is not an option ?
[06:42] <tomaz> nope, the import tax is about 60% of the original price, plus the sending charge
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory, perhaps you could help maintain the package, packages.ubuntu.org has a lot of information about that
[06:43] <zorglu_> tomaz: i know there are, but i dont get the names tho
[06:43] <zorglu_> tomaz: wow uncool
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> you may want to compile from source or convert or somethin
[06:43] <tomaz> yup, very uncool
[06:43] <morghanphoenix> wait, ipod like mp3 players that play ogg?
[06:43] <tomaz> i will buy my new box when i'm on vancouver. u.u
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> PM me if you need more help, I have class now
[06:43] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: i would love to, however, if i can't even compile this, idk how much help i would be.  but i think when i figure it out, i will take you up on that.
[06:44] <tomaz> mogra, i'm not a native english speaker, unclarity on my speech is expected
[06:45] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: yep he meant that
[06:45] <ypsila> tomaz: I do understand you :-)
[06:45] <excitatory> tomaz: no worries, most native english speakers cannot even articulate a complete sentence, let alone express an idea through words in a clear manner..
[06:46] <ypsila> excitatory: :-D true
[06:46] <excitatory> tomaz: believe me, i live in the states :D
[06:46] <ypsila> excitatory: how can you stand that? ;-)
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> excitatory, or find me in #ubuntu-chicago
[06:47] <excitatory> tomaz, morghanphoenix, also, if you install rockbox (3rd party, open source firmware) the ipod can play ogg, flac, wavpack, mp3, aac, etc, etc..)
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> that team is good and can help you out
[06:48] <ypsila> Admiral_Chicago: I didn' know, that kubuntu has own departments over there, as a european I thought "over there" everbody loves xp
[06:49] <excitatory> ypsila: well, there are many reasons for me to voluntarily stay here, and many involuntary reasons for why i am still here.  it's all the same wherever you go..just preference really.
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> ypsila, when did I say ovre there?
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> XP is the devil!
[06:49] <Admiral_Chicago> class!
[06:50] <ypsila> Admiral_Chicago: for me "the states" are over there :-)
[06:50] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: xp is worse
[06:51] <morghanphoenix> Is it just me, or is each new microsoft product getting buggier and buggier?
[06:51] <morghanphoenix> I did allright with 98se
[06:51] <excitatory> Admiral_Chicago: i actually live in milwaukee..
[06:52] <morghanphoenix> woah, rockbox supports 4th gens
[06:53] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: I did allright with everything and I started from the ground (DOS), but after almost 20 years of updating and never kept promises I fear vista
[06:54] <morghanphoenix> My nieghbor tested vista
[06:54] <ypsila> especially as I already know, that the next generation of dau's will buy it
[06:54] <brian_> Anyone have boson installed? I need help getting the music files to play?? game work fine but no music
[06:54] <morghanphoenix> you could hear her throwing stuff around the room in the middle of the night
[06:55] <excitatory> morghanphoenix: well, that tends to happen when the software, in this case an OS, is getting ever more complex while continually being built upon a poor base with a terrible software model..
[06:55] <ypsila> morghanphoenix:  due to vista?
[06:55] <frojnd> is there any tutorial how to download and install 32bit frefox on 64bit processor and how to install java and others plug-ins for it ? (please help)
[06:55] <frojnd> KUBUNTU
[06:55] <frojnd> not UBUNTU
[06:55] <morghanphoenix> X/K/Ubuntu!
[06:55] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[06:55] <frojnd> don't get it
[06:55] <morghanphoenix> due to vista
[06:55] <excitatory> frojnd: there are a few howtos on ubuntuforums.org
[06:56] <twstokes> You think the next Windows OS will be completely rebuilt from the ground up?
[06:56] <morghanphoenix> Kubuntu with gnome and xfce installed
[06:56] <excitatory> twstokes: well, vista is not.. and who knows about the next one.
[06:57] <twstokes> It's quite sad. Spaghetti code and all.
[06:57] <morghanphoenix> I hope there isn't a next one
[06:57] <ypsila> morghanphoenix:  there will be a next one, that is sure
[06:57] <twstokes> I really couldn't find anything in Vista that excited me.
[06:57] <arunkale> hey people
[06:57] <twstokes> Nothing new or innovative. Just some eye candy that XGL already creams.
[06:57] <zorglu_> frojnd: still got trouble adapting the instructions ? what is the issue ?
[06:57] <ypsila> hi you
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> What about IE7?
[06:58] <excitatory> twstokes: perhaps because it's more of a service pack than a new os release?
[06:58] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: who needs that?
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> They finally added something!
[06:58] <twstokes> I don't know, bust Vista almost looks like another ME release
[06:58] <arunkale> fonts are displaying umm.. weird in flash for me.. as in, when i view the site in windows, the font displays as arial, and in linux it shows as times new roman
[06:58] <twstokes> Just layering new things over old code
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> Not that opera doesn't allready do it better
[06:58] <twstokes> And we all know how great ME turned out
[06:58] <trappist> arunkale: try installing msttcorefonts
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, that's how I got linux
[06:59] <zorglu_> ALL: kubuntu is glad you like it, but lets not enter in a war about which os is best on this channel. you may discuss it on #kubuntu-offtopic tho
[06:59] <twstokes> IE7 is interesting, I used it a little in Vista. I liked the RSS reader.
[06:59] <arunkale> trappist: i have arial, etc.. installed
[06:59] <arunkale> i mean i copied those fonts from my windows cd to the fonts folder on ubuntu
[06:59] <morghanphoenix> What browser do you normaly use?
[06:59] <trappist> arunkale: iirc there's also a fix for some flash font issues on the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[06:59] <arunkale> websites show properly.. this problem is just with flash
[06:59] <arunkale> firefox
[06:59] <trappist> arunkale: doing that doesn't install the font
[07:00] <arunkale> it doesn't
[07:00] <arunkale> ?
[07:00] <arunkale> well, i can view pages with arial properly
[07:00] <arunkale> i installed them from the font installer in 'system settings'
[07:00] <trappist> well that's different :)
[07:00] <morghanphoenix> I love my Opera, and I'm converting my friends.
[07:00] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: so do we :-)
[07:01] <trappist> <-- not an opera fan
[07:01] <morghanphoenix> I installed it on my girlfriends windows computer and switched the icon for the IE one.
[07:01] <trappist> I don't like how it chooses which tab to focus when I close a tab, I don't like that I can't install extentions for things like adblock, etc.
[07:01] <morghanphoenix> After the initial freak out, she really likes it.
[07:02] <root> hi
[07:02] <frojnd> zorglu_: be back in 20min thx for asking
[07:02] <zorglu_> ok
[07:02] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: that's exactly what I did, and there was no freak-out, plus the chat-function - that convinced me
[07:02] <tomaz> hum, nice
[07:02] <twstokes> There's a chat function in Opera?
[07:02] <tomaz> i will buy an ipod on vancouver too
[07:03] <tomaz> to listen to OGG
[07:03] <tomaz> y//
[07:03] <ypsila> twstokes: jepp
[07:03] <excitatory> morghanphoenix: i wouldn't do that.. then she's associating that icon with web browsing.. just explain to her what and why she should use this.  you're only going to confuse her.. especially when she's at a friends house or on a public terminal.. idk.
[07:03] <skreet> Or you could teach her how to use a computer, imho
[07:03] <ypsila> excitatory: what would you do then?
[07:03] <skreet> maybe not act like she's useless
[07:03] <ypsila> skreet: nice answer
[07:03] <excitatory> exactly
[07:03] <morghanphoenix> She knows, that was just to trick her into starting it up.
[07:03] <morghanphoenix> She doesn't like change
[07:04] <skreet> morghanphoenix: who does :)
[07:04] <arunkale> I have gsfonts and gsfonts-x11 installed as well
[07:04] <twstokes> I like change for the better
[07:04] <morghanphoenix> I do.
[07:04] <excitatory> well, she shouldn't be allowed to live in this world.. constants are changing
[07:04] <excitatory> ;)
[07:04] <skreet> I enjoy Adept
[07:04] <twstokes> I like Adept also
[07:04] <skreet> I find it excellent
[07:04] <ypsila> twstokes: never looked for the chat-option?
[07:05] <arunkale> btw, looks like edgy is going to be out in a couple weeks
[07:05] <twstokes> Never used Opera before actually
[07:05] <ypsila> adept is nice
[07:05] <morghanphoenix> I've changed distros fout times this month
[07:05] <skreet> I can't wait for a useable beta of KDE 4.0.0
[07:05] <twstokes> Final release for Edgy?
[07:05] <excitatory> twstokes: oct 26, i believe..
[07:05] <twstokes> Holy moly I had no clue this soon
[07:05] <skreet> Cmon' XP is nice.
[07:05] <morghanphoenix> And if you used it a long time ago and hated it, use it again, it's better now.
[07:05] <twstokes> That's great
[07:05] <skreet> Getting my RC1-Vista trial!
[07:05] <skreet> 4.7 gb later.
[07:06] <twstokes> I downloaded it a few weeks but didn't install it (Vista RC1)
[07:06] <twstokes> *ago
[07:06] <arunkale> Yeah, final release
[07:06] <skreet> I need to backup this laptop first
[07:06] <ypsila> skreet: but beware, when having xp on the same box
[07:06] <skreet> ypsila: Doing an upgrade with an image of the drive within arms reach
[07:06] <skreet> :)
[07:07] <twstokes> I use Ghost and love it
[07:07] <twstokes> It's one of the few things I go into Windows for
[07:07] <skreet> Ever use Acronis software?
[07:07] <twstokes> Nope, only heard of it
[07:07] <skreet> It's pretty decent
[07:07] <ypsila> skreet:  that is a very good idea, a friend of mine tested vista and his xp was burnt
[07:07] <skreet> I like the Samba and FTP fileshare access.
[07:07] <excitatory> skreet: give them time, the kde team doesn't want to jump ahead of themselves and release too early.  look at firefox.. 2.0 was suppose to have major changes and improvements, but now it's shaping up to be more of a point release since users are so eager to have it... (among other reasons)
[07:08] <skreet> excitatory: I know :(
[07:08] <skreet> but i'd be happy with a broken beta, it looks so sexy
[07:08] <excitatory> development takes time.. and resources are short.  feel free to contribute :D
[07:08] <zorglu_> ok you guys dont feel like getting on topic :)
[07:08] <skreet> Not much of a developer, I'm afraid
[07:08] <skreet> Topic?
[07:08] <skreet> Kubuntu
[07:08] <arunkale> man this is weird
[07:09] <skreet> It runs KDE :)
[07:09] <arunkale> arial displays as times new roman
[07:09] <skreet> Duh.
[07:09] <ypsila> topic? what is that?
[07:09] <skreet> ..or something.
[07:09] <arunkale> would this have anything to do with the default font or whatever
[07:09] <morghanphoenix> I use my girlfriend's computer to reencode MP3s, still haven't been able to find anything in linux where I tell it to do 40 gigs of mp3s, go to sleep and wake up to them being done.
[07:09] <skreet> morghanphoenix: I still hate reencoding mp3s
[07:09] <skreet> morghanphoenix: Or more importantly Ogg-> as my car stereo has mp3 capability
[07:09] <excitatory> zorglu_: agreed, it isn't a bad idea to be on topic.. but i think considering there's no one in here that's being ignored with their questions, is it really so bad to go off on a few tangents?
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> I have lots of them at 320 bitrate
[07:10] <skreet> I was using Monkey's Audio for a while
[07:10] <skreet> but I need to find a car that supports it :)
[07:10] <arunkale> ypsila: so am i
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Only have 80 gigs on the drive and 40 on the pod
[07:10] <arunkale> does anyone have a google analytics account here
[07:10] <excitatory> skreet: good luck.  cars will support ogg and flac before monkeys
[07:10] <zorglu_> excitatory: i understand your point. but we may considere as well that talking all over about offtopic may scare people from asking
[07:11] <skreet> excitatory: Maybe. FLAC would be fine.
[07:11] <zorglu_> excitatory: just saying the arguement tho, i dont feel the urge to enforce people to keep ontopic :)
[07:11] <excitatory> zorglu_: fair enough
[07:12] <ypsila> was eine scheiss berflssige diskussion
[07:12] <morghanphoenix> People saying rtfm scares people off of asking, haven't heard that much here.
[07:13] <excitatory> morghanphoenix: agreed.  i think if you're going to tell someone to rtfm, you should link them to it.
[07:13] <ypsila> morghanphoenix: I would be very very happy if my ppl would even know google
[07:13] <morghanphoenix> Last time someone told me that it was in #slackware and I had the manual in front of me.
[07:14] <MDCore> Hey all.. I can't get my wife's windows machine to see my machine via SMB. HTTP works fine, but no smb :P
[07:15] <morghanphoenix> Took me forever to figure out how to mount an entire drive as /home, when I finally did it was so simple I felt like a complete idiot.
[07:15] <ypsila> :-D
[07:16] <twstokes> How are you trying to access SMB with the Windows machine?
[07:16] <ypsila> MDCore: we worked on that problem between suse and kubuntu for almost one week
[07:16] <MDCore> ypsila: ah.. so does kubuntu have problems being friendly on the network ?
[07:17] <nuxil_> !MPICH2
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about MPICH2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <ypsila> MDCore: no, not at all, the problem is in front of the monitor
[07:18] <MDCore> Ah.. so.. any ideas how to solve the problem ?
[07:18] <ypsila> MDCore: do get any errors?
[07:19] <morghanphoenix> replace the faulty peripheral?
[07:19] <MDCore> nope. I'm not 100% sure I've set things up correctly
[07:19] <MDCore> smb-wise anyway.
[07:19] <MDCore> the kubuntu friendly sharing does nothing for me
[07:19] <MDCore> always greyed out
[07:19] <ypsila> MDCore: post it to the pastebin
[07:20] <zorglu_> MDCore: try to become administrator by clicking on the button, or launch 'kdesu kcontrol'
[07:20] <MDCore> zorglu_: done and done
[07:20] <MDCore> zorg: still greyed out. Dunno why.
[07:20] <zorglu_> MDCore: the second fix the 'all grayed out' here
[07:20] <MDCore> zorglu_: ah. didn't for me :(
[07:20] <zorglu_> hmm dunno then ...
[07:21] <MDCore> kdesu kcontrol -> admin pass -> File sharing -> {grayed out }
[07:21] <morghanphoenix> How do I connect to a windows computer on my network?
[07:22] <morghanphoenix> I have ssh server on mine and win scp there so it can connect to me.
[07:22] <azzco> how do I update my kernel (is it even possible)?
[07:23] <Hawkwind> azzco: If there is a newer one in the repos, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update it for you
[07:24] <excitatory> azzco: what's wrong with it?  and what version are you currently using?  (uname -a)
[07:24] <soulrider> anyone know a good DVD copy program like Elby CloneDVD for windows ?
[07:25] <Hawkwind> soulrider: k9copy
[07:25] <skreet> speaking of k9copy... what's a good kde/qt ftp client
[07:25] <Hawkwind> skreet: kftpgrabber, kbear, and several others
[07:25] <MDCore> but none good :P
[07:26] <skreet> heh
[07:26] <skreet> im sure they'll work
[07:26] <morghanphoenix> Why do DVDs continue to copy when they've allready finished the chapter they were set to copy?
[07:26] <morghanphoenix> I'm using thoggen
[07:26] <excitatory> skreet: even konqueror works well
[07:26] <azzco> excitatory:  this line should explain some :) "Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386"
[07:26] <tomaz> i use Konqueror for FTP
[07:27] <excitatory> skreet: kasablanca as well
[07:27] <tomaz> i used kasablanca, Gftp and konqueror
[07:27] <skreet> checking out kbear
[07:27] <tomaz> but no one is good as Filezilla
[07:27] <tomaz> =/
[07:27] <azzco> I'm trying to install compiz aiglx but I need to install that package
[07:27] <tomaz> there's a linux port of filezilla?
[07:27] <excitatory> azzco: maybe because that package doesn't exist.
[07:28] <azzco> yeah... but I also noticed that I'm supposed to be running a 686 kernel as I have apentium 4...
[07:28] <morghanphoenix> How about a good DVD ripper?
[07:29] <excitatory> tomaz: no, but there's a firefox plugin that works nicely, fireftp
[07:30] <tomaz> i dont have FF installed. just konqueror and opera here
[07:30] <zorglu_> MDCore: http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html <- i just found that, i dunno if it helps
[07:30] <tomaz> cuz i got some memory problems with FF, it consumes too much ram
[07:30] <tomaz> so i will stick with Konqueror for now.
[07:30] <excitatory> azzco: well, remove linux-image-386 and install linux-image-686  simple as that.
[07:31] <azzco> thx excitatory I'm installing now ;)
[07:31] <excitatory> tomaz: yea, but that's mostly from the customization that the debian devs do that we as ubuntu users inherit..
[07:31] <morghanphoenix> Anybody know a good dvd ripping program?
[07:31] <excitatory> tomaz: it seems to be doing fine on my machine as of a few weeks ago.
[07:31] <Hawkwind> morghanphoenix: To burn movies you mean ?
[07:32] <morghanphoenix> to put them on my hard drive
[07:32] <Hawkwind> morghanphoenix: Ummm, insert the DVD, mount it if it needs to, copy the files to your harddrive.  I don't think there is such things as a DVD ripping program.  Not that I know of anyways
[07:33] <morghanphoenix> I have thoggen installed, converts them to ogg, but it has problems sometimes.
[07:34] <Hawkwind> Converts a DVD to ogg ???
[07:34] <excitatory> azzco: depending on your video drivers and/or codecs you use, you may and probably need to install linux-restricted-modules-686 as well.
[07:34] <morghanphoenix> I'll be copying a dvd and it will keep copying after it's finished.
[07:34] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[07:34] <Hawkwind> That isn't the way things are done
[07:34] <excitatory> Hawkwind: probably talking about theora and ogg.. video/audio respectively
[07:35] <morghanphoenix> They play in kaffiene just fine, if they copy right that is.
[07:35] <angel> que es esto?
[07:35] <soulrider> angel
[07:35] <soulrider> !es
[07:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:36] <morghanphoenix> I woke up this morning to find king arthur 7 hours into a copy, for a 139 min movie.
[07:36] <soulrider> does anyone know a program i can use to import outlook contacts from windows to here ?
[07:36] <morghanphoenix> Doesn't kontact support them?
[07:36] <morghanphoenix> vcards, right?
[07:37] <zorglu_> soulrider: thunderbird does it i think
[07:37] <soulrider> ahh ok
[07:37] <soulrider> its for my dad actually
[07:37] <soulrider> is it easy to use ?
[07:37] <zorglu_> thunderbird ? yep quite
[07:37] <soulrider> i use Opera
[07:37] <soulrider> ahh ok
[07:37] <soulrider> i convinced himt o use linux :P
[07:38] <soulrider> he was tired of windows
[07:38] <soulrider> popping a window every 2 secs saying his win was a pirate copy
[07:38] <soulrider> :P
[07:38] <morghanphoenix> XP?
[07:38] <soulrider> yea
[07:38] <morghanphoenix> I hate that
[07:38] <soulrider> Xtra poopy
[07:39] <Homer> does it really do that
[07:39] <zorglu_> he could use firefox on window to avoid this, tho :) i dunno if it is good to tell him tho :)
[07:39] <Homer> oh IE tells you?
[07:39] <morghanphoenix> I added a hard drive and extra cd-rom to my gfs xp and I had to call microsoft because it thought I put the hard drive in a new computer.
[07:40] <zorglu_> Homer: yep, just a web advertizement and ie doing bad handling for it
[07:40] <windshear> windows told me to update my system - so i installed kubuntu...
[07:40] <Homer> lol
[07:40] <MotorCityMadMan> Uptime: 15 hours and 56 minutes
[07:40] <morghanphoenix> I have an ME key, and 2k never gave me problems with a cracked key.
[07:40] <morghanphoenix> Just XP
[07:41] <morghanphoenix> And I had the damn key for XP
[07:41] <Blacken> morghanphoenix: That's because they rightfully don't like pirating their software. Ghasp.
[07:41] <[BTF] Chm0d> hey guys how can I roll back the os to a previous state??
[07:41] <Blacken> morghanphoenix: LOL, this is true.  It's still theft. You didn't buy 2K.
[07:43] <arunkale> oh crap on some sites it still shows times new roman
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> I bought thier product, they just wouldn't let me use the one I paid for.
[07:43] <Blacken> morghanphoenix: No, you bought a license to use their product.
[07:43] <[BTF] Chm0d> not so funny nuxil_
[07:44] <soulrider> yea, say your mobo dies, you need to buya  new XP, its such BS
[07:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> but thx for your humor
[07:44] <Blacken> soulrider: Not true...
[07:44] <Homer> that's it I'm sending the BSA in
[07:44] <nuxil_> [BTF] Chm0d, whats not working ? are you on a 64 or 32 bit system?
[07:44] <soulrider> still, im not paying for windows :P
[07:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> 64
[07:44] <Blacken> soulrider: Then don't use it.
[07:44] <soulrider> lets hope vista is a disaster so more ppl use kubuntu :P
[07:44] <soulrider> i dont :P
[07:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> oops 32 right now
[07:44] <zorglu_> [BTF] Chm0d: you got the backup of the modified files ?
[07:44] <[BTF] Chm0d> i had 64 running
[07:45] <Blacken> morghanphoenix: I wouldn't use Linux on my own machines (and most of the ones I do tech support for) if I didn't disagree with Microsoft's tactics, but the fact remains that you DID agree to Microsloth's terms when you bought Windows. Caveat bloody emptor.
[07:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> like xorg?
[07:45] <zorglu_> [BTF] Chm0d: all the files you modified during the install of xgl/beryl
[07:45] <nuxil_> [BTF] Chm0d, read this http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/howto/xgl&compiz/compiz&xgl.txt
[07:45] <[BTF] Chm0d> hell i dont know :)
[07:45] <Homer> Blacken: don't assume the law isn't up for debate either
[07:46] <Blacken> steff: You can monitor it through ps, and I'm sure there are other ways, but SSH is secure for a reason--so you can't snoop directly. :p
[07:46] <morghanphoenix> And aren't the new keys downgradable anyways?
[07:46] <morghanphoenix> nvm, it's off-topic
[07:47] <Blacken> Homer: The fact remains that users choose to use their software under their terms. It really isn't Microsoft's fault that people click straight through without reading. I use Linux because it's better, but Microsoft has every right to sell their products as they choose to, FUD notwithstanding.
[07:47] <morghanphoenix> Then they should support them.
[07:47] <trappist> Blacken, Homer, morghanphoenix, #kubuntu-offtopic please
[07:48] <zorglu_> Blacken: they have this right IIF they do it in a legal manner
[07:48] <steff> Blacken: okay.. i'll try.. i just think i would be nice if i could watch in real time whats going on.. thank you
[07:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> nuxil_:  if i already have that stuff installed do i need to undo everything i have already done?
[07:48] <MotorCityMadMan> Random Fortune: Q: Would you like to see the WINE list? A: What's on it, anything expensive? Q: No, just Solitaire and MineSweeper for now, but the WINE is free. 	-- Kevin M. Bealer, about the WINdows Emulator
[07:48] <nuxil_> http://nuxil.dynserv.net:81/screenshot/kde-xgl2.png
[07:48] <nuxil_> nahhh dont think so
[07:48] <nuxil_> im running video on my desktop :)
[07:49] <nuxil_> xwinwrap :)
[07:49] <Chousuke> Wine Is Not an Emulator ;P
[07:49] <zorglu_> nuxil_ isp can't handle pasting a picture url on irc :)
[07:50] <MotorCityMadMan> Chousuke: WINdows Emulator
[07:50] <[BTF] Chm0d> nice screenshot nuxil_
[07:50] <nuxil_> thx
[07:50] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill try to follow your guide step for step
[07:51] <buzzy-> !w32codecs
[07:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:51] <nuxil_> it not my guide.. i copyed it from the forums for own use,, and the guid it worked for me :)
[07:52] <nuxil_> zorglu_, ?
[07:52] <zorglu_> nuxil_: nevermind, just noticed that the picture was downloading very slowly
[07:52] <zorglu_> still in progress even :) maybe i should cut it :)
[07:52] <nuxil_> zorglu_ lol i bet..  i only have 512 upload
[07:52] <nuxil_>  :P
[07:55] <MotorCityMadMan> !FLAC
[07:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:55] <frojnd> hello there.. I've downloaded firefox32 and install it with script link:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32  Does this version of firefox override previous one (64bit) ?
[07:56] <mini_gamer1896> !download
[07:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:56] <nuxil> frojnd if it does or not.. you would like it to.. so you can have flash working
[07:57] <frojnd> hm
[07:57] <frojnd> how can I remove it
[07:57] <frojnd> apt-get remove firefox ?
[07:57] <nuxil> dpkg -r
[07:57] <nuxil> dpkg -r firefox
[07:57] <nuxil> i think
[07:57] <nuxil> man
[07:57] <frojnd> hm
[07:57] <frojnd> couse I don't wanna delite 32bit..
[07:57] <nuxil> you dont need firefox for 64 bit
[07:58] <nuxil> thers no point. yet,
[07:58] <frojnd> I know..
[07:58] <frojnd> I need 23
[07:58] <frojnd> 32*
[07:58] <nuxil> you can dl the firefox 2 beta version
[07:58] <frojnd> ?
[07:58] <frojnd> what for
[07:58] <frojnd> isn't 32bit compatible with 64bit processors?
[07:58] <nuxil> use it instead
[07:59] <frojnd> can I override it
[07:59] <frojnd> :) I don't understand quitely
[07:59] <frojnd> look..
[08:00] <nuxil> alright
[08:00] <frojnd> first I've installed firefox64
[08:00] <frojnd> and now 32 by this script
[08:00] <frojnd> couse I wanna java and otheres plug-ins works..
[08:01] <frojnd> and now I am asking if 32 will work properly
[08:01] <frojnd> couse 64 is allready installed
[08:02] <frojnd> and second q: will firefox32 override firefox64 automaticlly or I have to manual?
[08:02] <nuxil> http://home.comcast.net/~deletebox/firefox-2.0-BETA-1_amd64.deb
[08:02] <nuxil> its working with flash and java
[08:03] <frojnd> aha
[08:03] <frojnd> so basically I wouldn't have to install firefox32 ? :S
[08:03] <nuxil> == you still need some 32 libs
[08:03] <nuxil> ia32linux
[08:04] <nuxil> lib32-*
[08:05] <frojnd> ho nose
[08:05] <frojnd> now It's a whole mess :S
[08:05] <Dink> Ok who here wants to help an old fart get dvdrip working/installed ??
[08:05] <TheGateKeeper> frojnd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:05] <Dink> apt-get install wont do it says broken package.... something about video-dvdrip
[08:06] <Dink> I dont see video-dvdrip anywhere
[08:06] <frojnd> TheGateKeeper I don't get the ubuntu syntaxes so this tuturial is usless to me
[08:06] <frojnd> how can I delite firefox
[08:06] <frojnd> bouth of them
[08:06] <frojnd> firefox32 and firefox64
[08:07] <jon_> my cd drive constantly opens itself when i use it
[08:08] <jon_> does anyone know why it would do that
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> frojnd: apt-get remove <package> will remove the package but not all it's dependencies
[08:08] <nuxil> frojnd, the guide you need is this
[08:08] <nuxil> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[08:09] <nuxil> use the scripts
[08:09] <nuxil> http://www.tghc.org/staticpages/index.php/32bitFirefoxinstallscripts
[08:09] <Dink> Anyone know why dvdrip conflicts with video-dvdrip even if its not installed nor in apt-get ??
[08:10] <frojnd> nuxil is this also for kubuntu?
[08:10] <TheGateKeeper> frojnd: I think if you use sudo aptitude install <package> then you can sudo aptitude remove <package> & that removes everything (or so they tell me)
[08:11] <frojnd> TheGateKeeper I've installed it through script
[08:11] <nuxil> frojnd, YES
[08:11] <frojnd> ./Firefox
[08:11] <frojnd> and that's it
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> well you would have to look at the script to see what it was doing
[08:13] <frojnd> that's a problem
[08:17] <Dink> Can someone help me install dvdrip ??
[08:18] <Tm_T> !info dvdrip
[08:18] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.52.5-0.0 (dapper), package size 365 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[08:18] <Tm_T> I see
[08:18] <frojnd> dvdrip as a program yes?
[08:18] <Dink> trying to do it on edgy... says it conflicts with video-dvdrip which is not installed
[08:19] <Tm_T> Dink: #ubuntu+1 is for edgy iirc
[08:19] <Dink> ahh k
[08:19] <Dink> thanks
[08:20] <Tm_T> np
[08:20] <frojnd> !edgy
[08:20] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:20] <mini_gamer1896> !schedule
[08:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:21] <frojnd> guys
[08:21] <frojnd> how can I remove all firefoxes on my kubuntu (firefox32 and firefox64)
[08:21] <skreet> did you use apt to install?
[08:22] <frojnd> no
[08:22] <frojnd> I mean
[08:22] <frojnd> firefox yes
[08:22] <frojnd> firefox64
[08:23] <frojnd> and firefox32 through script: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[08:27] <steff> how do i copy a folder from a network dir ?
[08:27] <steff> ..from the console
[08:27] <banjooie> Hey guys, idiot windows guy who just started linux yesterday after epic spyware victory here. For various reasons I need the sources.list that Kubuntu comes with--where is a vanilla copy?
[08:28] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[08:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:28] <banjooie> yay
[08:28] <abattoir> banjooie: ^^^ that might help
[08:30] <soulrider> abattoir: i got a small question, i might ahve asked you before tyhough
[08:30] <soulrider> i installed kubuntu for my dad
[08:31] <abattoir> soulrider: sure
[08:31] <soulrider> so i want him to ahve a program to connect/disconect out DSL connection
[08:31] <soulrider> without having ot go to console
[08:31] <soulrider> im using one and it works just fine
[08:31] <soulrider> now....
[08:31] <soulrider> i insatleld it on him computer
[08:31] <abattoir> knet?
[08:31] <soulrider> and it connects to the internet
[08:31] <soulrider> yea
[08:31] <soulrider> im using rppppoek actually
[08:31] <soulrider> the thing is
[08:31] <soulrider> they both connect
[08:32] <soulrider> i can do ifconfig and see they connected well
[08:32] <soulrider> but apps just wont load
[08:32] <soulrider> as if there were no connection active
[08:32] <soulrider> i cant make the damn thing work
[08:32] <abattoir> soulrider: does pinging a site work?
[08:32] <soulrider> nope
[08:32] <soulrider> nothing
[08:32] <abattoir> soulrider: you tried ifup?
[08:32] <soulrider> ifup ?
[08:33] <abattoir> soulrider: sudo ifup eth0 (or ppp0 ???)
[08:33] <abattoir> eth0 would be the interface
[08:33] <soulrider> ppp0 i guess
[08:33] <abattoir> not sure if it'd be ppp0 for you
[08:33] <soulrider> when do i do that, after i connect ?
[08:33] <abattoir> after ifconfig
[08:33] <soulrider> buts pppoe connection
[08:34] <abattoir> well, but if you want to do it through the console, then why not use pppoeconf ?
[08:34] <soulrider> brb, let me see if it works
[08:34] <soulrider> thast the thing
[08:34] <soulrider> i dont want him to have to use hte console
[08:34] <soulrider> i wants a nice GUI
[08:34] <soulrider> so he has no problems
[08:35] <frojnd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/
[08:35] <frojnd> when I try to install firefox32
[08:35] <gupta> how to install stuff from the kubuntu install cd?
[08:35] <abattoir> soulrider: that's one thing that's lacking though, sadly :(
[08:35] <frojnd> this are the last 3 ines
[08:35] <soulrider> yea :(
[08:35] <frojnd> 3 lines*
[08:35] <soulrider> i mean
[08:35] <banjooie> sigh, now to try adept again
[08:35] <soulrider> i use rppppoek on my pc and ahve no problems
[08:35] <soulrider> but when i use it on his
[08:35] <soulrider> i get that problem
[08:35] <frojnd> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/  (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation)
[08:36] <banjooie> Goddamnit, why does kdelibs4-dev break my install.
[08:36] <gupta> I have tried apt-cdrom, but it doesn't seem to add many packages to teh cdrom, for example I can't find kmail . and the download from the online repos is 10mb which would take me ages, so I need to install it (old version?) using the cd only.. help plz
[08:37] <soulrider> the one int he CDRom
[08:37] <soulrider> is the one that comes installed with the system
[08:37] <soulrider> you should ahve it installed already
[08:37] <abattoir> gupta: kmail should be in the cd
[08:37] <abattoir> gupta: its a module under kontact
[08:37] <abattoir> gupta: doesnt have a separate menu entry
[08:37] <banjooie> okay, I can't seem to install kde-devel or kdelibs4-dev, both claim to break the install. I sorta need these for the headers so I can install useful things like KMuddy.
[08:38] <gupta> soulrider: I remove it earlier
[08:38] <banjooie> Is there some other method of procuring delicious headers?
[08:38] <gupta> and now things have updated, so its 10mb download
[08:39] <gupta> abattoir: i did "apt-cdrom add" dappercd, then sudo aptitude update, then aptitude search mail -- which does not show kmail..
[08:39] <soulrider> gupta: i never installed anything from the CD
[08:39] <soulrider> cant one of your friends download the .deb file and give it toy ou on a CD or something ?
[08:40] <soulrider> or why not take you pc tyoa  friends house and do a full update
[08:40] <gupta> i can do that myself..
[08:40] <gupta> but it would take ages
[08:40] <soulrider> thats why
[08:40] <soulrider> go to someone with a faster connection
[08:40] <soulrider> you on dialup ?
[08:40] <gupta> plus I wana know how to install old versions generally.. coz things keep getting updated, which I don't require..
[08:41] <soulrider> i g2g
[08:41] <windshear> hello
[08:41] <soulrider> abattoir: i guess he will have to use hte console right ?
[08:41] <frojnd> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/  (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation) ??
[08:42] <windshear> just downloaded and burned 6.10
[08:42] <soulrider> :)
[08:42] <abattoir> soulrider: i guess for now, yes,(wonder why knet doesnt work though)
[08:42] <windshear> but i've got some problems starting the life cd
[08:42] <abattoir> soulrider: you could probably create a desktop shortcut for him or something
[08:42] <banjooie> ...maybe one of the bunch of people who just entered know--I can't seem to install kdelibs4-dev or kde-devel, because it breaks my install. I've used linux for like two days, I'm on Kubuntu.
[08:42] <soulrider> rppppoek doesnt either, and it works on my comp
[08:42] <abattoir> soulrider: to simplify stuff
[08:42] <soulrider> and the modem is set up the same way
[08:43] <soulrider> abattoir: how cna i do that >/
[08:43] <soulrider> ?
[08:43] <windshear> i get to the screen what to do, install, test cd...
[08:43] <soulrider> windshear: how much RAM do you have ?
[08:43] <windshear> but if I select start life cd, it gets to the screen with the progress bar and stops
[08:43] <windshear> soulrider 512
[08:44] <windshear> soulrider 512 mb ram
[08:44] <soulrider> the live CD may take a while to load
[08:44] <soulrider> for how long did you wait
[08:44] <windshear> no it just freeses, waited 10 min, in most cases.
[08:44] <soulrider> oh
[08:44] <windshear> one time it worked
[08:44] <mini_gamer1896> was the drive still reading?
[08:44] <soulrider> uhm.... =/
[08:44] <BonBonTheJon> windshear: did you run check cd
[08:45] <windshear> no, drive not reading, nothing
[08:45] <abattoir> soulrider: i think you can create a link to a bash script which connects and disconnects
[08:45] <windshear> yes, cd is ok, tested on an other pc
[08:45] <buzzy-> !mplayer
[08:45] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:45] <soulrider> it iwll have to use sudo though
[08:45] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:45] <soulrider> how can i make it prompt for the pass ?
[08:45] <abattoir> soulrider: create a connect file where you have the command for connecting it (pon dsl-provider??) and then have one for disconnecting
[08:45] <windshear> but on the concerned one it also sometimes stops displaying the progress bar
[08:46] <starz> how do i change premissions of a file from a terminal
[08:46] <soulrider> also, it would be nice if he had some icon that told him if hes ocnnected or not
[08:46] <windshear> not even starting cd check
[08:46] <abattoir> soulrider: hmm, yes that's an issue, unless you make sudo not ask for a password at all ;)
[08:46] <soulrider> starz
[08:46] <windshear> starz chown
[08:46] <soulrider> chmod
[08:46] <soulrider> and how cna i make it do that abattoir :P
[08:46] <starz> thats what i thought
[08:46] <starz> thanks
[08:46] <windshear> hm, thats for owner sry
[08:47] <abattoir> soulrider: ok, be careful, because if you dont do it properly(or make a spelling mistake) you might not be able to use sudo and will have to either use a livecd to fix it or reinstall
[08:47] <soulrider> oh noes, im the kind of typ0s
[08:48] <abattoir> soulrider: the last line %admin one, should look like '%admin  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL'
[08:48] <soulrider> edgy MUST implement a program to connect via GUI
[08:48] <abattoir> in /etc/sudoers
[08:48] <herkulesik> hi all
[08:48] <abattoir> soulrider: nope, its not in edgy(other than knet), maybe edgy+1
[08:48] <sahadja> hello..
[08:48] <sahadja> i have a question please
[08:49] <sahadja> will work kubuntu 6.06 on pentium 3 500MHz?
[08:49] <soulrider> what does ifup do ?
[08:49] <abattoir> soulrider: it brings up the interface, see man ifup for more info
[08:49] <soulrider> sahadja: i think it will, probably
[08:49] <abattoir> sahadja: how much ram do you have?
[08:49] <sahadja> soulrider 128RAM
[08:49] <sahadja> abattoir 128RAM
[08:49] <abattoir> sahadja: it will run, but it'll be very slow
[08:50] <abattoir> sahadja: you can try xubuntu
[08:50] <abattoir> !xubuntu
[08:50] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org  To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <sahadja> xubuntu? Will work?
[08:50] <_eckobar_> hi everbody
[08:50] <sahadja> :)
[08:50] <sahadja> ok, i'll tru..
[08:50] <mini_g> i am running kde with 128 myself
[08:50] <abattoir> sahadja: i think it should work well with older hardware, just check in #xubuntu ;)
[08:50] <_eckobar_> need some help
[08:50] <_eckobar_> problem: want to install compiz, followed steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz but when i want to make apt-get install cms compiz compiz-gnome getting following output from apt: package not installable ... package destroyed (translated from german to englisch from the scratch...real english output differ.) can anybody help me??
[08:50] <mini_g> no problems
[08:51] <abattoir> _eckobar_: you might want to ask that in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:51] <sahadja> mini_g kubuntu?:)
[08:51] <mini_g> same
[08:51] <_eckobar_> thx will check
[08:51] <abattoir> mini_g: it is not slow for you?
[08:51] <mini_g> nope
[08:51] <sahadja> mini
[08:51] <sahadja> what your processor
[08:51] <mini_g> pIII
[08:51] <mini_g> 600mhz
[08:52] <sahadja> mini_G do you think kubuntu will work ?
[08:52] <sahadja> =]
[08:52] <sahadja> i'll try today
[08:52] <mini_g> get xubuntu
[08:52] <sahadja> i have kubuntu, xubuntu is needed to be downloaded..
[08:52] <sahadja> i want today to finish this
[08:52] <sahadja> =] ]
[08:52] <mini_g> on the the same comp?
[08:52] <caseyomah> How do I make wine work on double-click?
[08:52] <abattoir> sahadja: is it running well for you?
[08:53] <sahadja> abattoir currently i'm on wim98
[08:53] <sahadja> windows 98
[08:53] <abattoir> sahadja: oh ok
[08:53] <abattoir> sahadja: try installing it(since you already have it), if it isnt slow for you, then good, else you can always 'apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[08:53] <mini_g> hmm, sahadji, what are you running cpu wise?
[08:53] <abattoir> which is the command to install xubuntu ;)
[08:54] <mini_g> ack, sry, am back into the background
[08:54] <sahadja> mini_g on your system kde work fine??
[08:54] <Kubu> how can i check what kernel version ive got
[08:54] <sahadja> on 128 with pentium 3 600mhz?
[08:54] <caseyomah> How do I fix my exes to work on wine by double-click?
[08:54] <mini_g> correct
[08:54] <sahadja> :)
[08:54] <sahadja> ok
[08:54] <Kubu> how can i check what kernel version ive got
[08:55] <sahadja> the installation procces take time?
[08:55] <abattoir> Kubu: uname -r
[08:55] <sahadja> take much time?
[08:55] <caseyomah> sahadja: Yeah, about a half hour.
[08:55] <mini_g> sahadji, about the same as xubuntu & ubuntu
[08:55] <sahadja> normaly
[08:56] <mini_g> caseyomah, you running kubuntu?
[09:04] <caseyomah> Yes.
[09:04] <caseyomah> mini_g: Yes.
[09:05] <mini_g> k
[09:05] <mini_g> one min
[09:05] <caseyomah> mini_g: Right now the context menu for "Windows Executable" has "Open in new window" and "Open in new tab"
[09:06] <caseyomah> mini_g: Instead of "Open"
[09:06] <Cyraq> hello everyone, does anyone have an idea when 6.10 stable will be released?
[09:06] <Cyraq> i'm not sure i want to risk insalling the beta
[09:07] <caseyomah> Cyraq: Edgy is on the horizon.
[09:07] <mini_g> caseyomah: look down to about half way down the list>Open With
[09:07] <jessica_> hallo!
[09:07] <Cyraq> caseyomah: like, 1-2 weeks?
[09:08] <jessica_> wie gehts?
[09:08] <caseyomah> Cyraq: Probably not that fast.
[09:08] <jessica_> aso...
[09:08] <zorglu_> !de
[09:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:08] <Cyraq> pl
[09:08] <mabreaux> what is new on the Edgy beta>
[09:08] <Cyraq> *ok
[09:08] <caseyomah> mini_g: I can do that, and selecting remember doesn't lock it in.
[09:09] <Cyraq> caseyomah: i guess i'll wait. kubuntu rocks ^^
[09:09] <mini_g> hmm
[09:09] <caseyomah> Cyraq: Sure does.
[09:09] <Cyraq> i saw the screenshots for the beta and i'm loving the purple.
[09:09] <Cyraq> it implements kde so perfectly its incredible
[09:09] <morghanphoenix> Anybody know a good DVD ripping program to put my movies on my hard drive?
[09:09] <ypsila> moin
[09:09] <caseyomah> Thoggen
[09:10] <mini_g> caseyomah: did you try the meta bar?
[09:10] <maelcum> hi! i know it's not recommended to install edgy for productive use, but are there still major problems? i generally know what i'm doing so i can live with it if it's not "perfect" yet.
[09:10] <morghanphoenix> Know why it keeps recording after it's done?
[09:10] <JacksLivr> afternoon all: i have a Dell Latitude D620 and cannot get the system to see my wireless card. Goggle says to make sure linux-restrited-modules are what I need. I have them but my wireless card still does not show up. help please
[09:10] <caseyomah> mini_g: Talk me through it...
[09:10] <morghanphoenix> caseyomah you know thoggen?
[09:10] <mabreaux> where are the screen shots available?
[09:11] <JacksLivr> ifconfig only shows "eth0" and "lo"
[09:11] <mini_g> caseyomah: ok, in konquerer, press F9 to show the navigation panel if it isn't already showing
[09:11] <mhterres> Hey everybody
[09:11] <mini_g> caseyomah: and select the M with the cog behind it
[09:11] <caseyomah> mini_g: It shows in Open With on the metabar.
[09:12] <morghanphoenix> does anyone here know thoggen who isn't busy?
[09:12] <mhterres> when 6.10 will be released ?
[09:13] <mini_g> caseyomah: *sigh* sry, is out of my abilities now
[09:13] <caseyomah> I can see that it's associated, just not to double-click. :(
[09:13] <mhterres> Anybody knows ?
[09:13] <maelcum> let me rephrase my question: everybody who had a broken system after upgrading to edgy, please raise your hand!
[09:14] <JacksLivr> afternoon all: i have a Dell Latitude D620 and cannot get the system to see my wireless card. Goggle says to make sure linux-restrited-modules are what I need. I have them but my wireless card still does not show up. help please
[09:14] <mini_g> caseyomah: do you have terminal open when you open the program up?
[09:14] <maelcum> mhterres: "end of october" i heard.
[09:14] <Diceman[o] > hi
[09:14] <mhterres> hmmm
[09:15] <mhterres> no date yet ?
[09:15] <caseyomah> mini_g: I have the F8 Terminal up, and I can wine Program.exe without a problem, the double-click doesn't go to Term.
[09:17] <mini_g> ok, go back to the association section of the r. click menu>open with>other>select "run in terminal"
[09:17] <caseyomah> mini_g: Good idea.
[09:18] <mini_g> caseyomah: i find that for some odd reason, most programs only work if terminal is running with wine
[09:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i ask you how to delete manually a printer from cups? when in kde control module, i click on his name the module crash, while if i use the web interface, nothing happens
[09:18] <caseyomah> mini_g: Well, I can hide the term if that's what it takes.
[09:18] <mabreaux> no networking, does any one know how to do a track?
[09:19] <mini_g> caseyomah: true
[09:19] <mabreaux> sorry, on networking
[09:19] <caseyomah> mini_g: Still not double-clickable. :(
[09:19] <ehsan> hey guys. I can not listen to my MP3s, how can I do that?
[09:20] <mini_g> caseyomah: did you select "remember association"?
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> !mp3
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> ehsan, ^^
[09:20] <mini_g> application association
[09:20] <mini_g> *
[09:20] <ehsan> thank you
[09:21] <MasterEvilAce> It's just a jump to the left.
[09:24] <fumasterdk2> I just installed kubuntu from 6.10 beta install went fine, but upon boot my screen goes out of sync. Is there a safe mode boot or something_ I tried ctrl and - or + to chnage the resolution but to no avail _____
[09:25] <gupta> fumasterdk2: out of sync?
[09:25] <fumasterdk2> yeah i have a flatscreen lcd screen
[09:25] <caseyomah> mini_g: Yup.
[09:25] <fumasterdk2> And it kinda picky with sync
[09:25] <fumasterdk2> or screen resolution if you will
[09:26] <mini_g> caseyomah: sry, am out of ideas, you could always ask in the forum
[09:26] <fumasterdk2> The install cd had no problem
[09:26] <caseyomah> mini_g: That's slow though. lol
[09:26] <mini_g> true, but can be much more effective
[09:26] <fumasterdk2> But on first boot when it starts x then my screen goes black
[09:26] <caseyomah> I'm going to try something funny...
[09:27] <fumasterdk2> So cant I hit some keys to make it go down to day 800x600 __
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> fumasterdk2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <caseyomah> I'm removing (both) the associations with wine, then going to try to open with accosiate it again.
[09:27] <fumasterdk2> Admiral_Chicago: how do I get a prompt on it_
[09:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !backports
[09:28] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:28] <fumasterdk2> I mean how to boot with no x
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> log into a fail safe terminal
[09:28] <fumasterdk2> just commandline
[09:28] <mini_g> caseyomah: good luck
[09:28] <caseyomah> Thanks.
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> fumasterdk2, fail safe terminal
[09:28] <fumasterdk2> Hmm I need press esc __
[09:28] <fumasterdk2> and then get that option_
[09:28] <fumasterdk2> or how
[09:30] <zorglu_> !info kopete dapper-backports
[09:30] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[09:30] <zorglu_> ok the bots doesnt like my repositor
[09:30] <zorglu_> y
[09:31] <caseyomah> !info kopete backports
[09:31] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6.2 (dapper), package size 5068 kB, installed size 16980 kB
[09:31] <caseyomah> I guess it doesn't have a second parser.
[09:32] <root_> Oki i got the cmommandline now what was the sudo reconf command again for x reconfig??
[09:32] <zorglu_> i think the second parameter is only the distribution version and cant be a repository
[09:33] <BonBonTheJon> 2064679
[09:33] <BonBonTheJon> hi
[09:34] <eigenvalue> if root- == fumasterdk2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> root_, , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:35] <AWOSDev> I am having a problem setting up my bcm4318 card.
[09:36] <AWOSDev> When I `sudo modprobe bcm43xx', modprobe freezes.  But the WLAN card's power light comes on.
[09:36] <AWOSDev> The first time I ran `sudo modprobe bcm43xx' it came up a segmentation fault.
[09:36] <CVirus> AWOSDev: what kernel ?
[09:36] <CVirus> AWOSDev: and what card is that ?
[09:36] <AWOSDev> Linux Lappy 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT
[09:36] <AWOSDev> Broadcom 4318 AirForce One 54g
[09:37] <AWOSDev> Linksys WPC54G v3
[09:37] <Ashex> fwcutter 53xx is what he needs
[09:37] <Ashex> er, 43xx
[09:37] <AWOSDev> I already have fwcutter 43xx
[09:37] <CVirus> AWOSDev: well ... the bcm driver is more mature in kernel 2.6.17 ... you could give it a try or even use ndiswrapper
[09:37] <mabreaux> can anyone explain what DHT is in Ktorrent?
[09:37] <AWOSDev> NDISwrapper didn't work at all
[09:37] <AWOSDev> 2.6.17?
[09:37] <CVirus> AWOSDev: latest ndiswrapper ?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> DHT. Hmm.. wait a sec..that sounda familer'
[09:37] <AWOSDev> CVirus, yeah latest.
[09:38] <CVirus> AWOSDev: when was that ?
[09:38] <zorglu_> mabreaux: some way to find peers, similar to http tracker but more distributed
[09:38] <AWOSDev> last week
[09:38] <CVirus> AWOSDev: I guess a version was released 2 days ago
[09:38] <Dr_willis> DHT i think. lets you talk to peers to get other trackers
[09:38] <mabreaux> thanks
[09:38] <Dr_willis> many private trackers tell the users to NOT enable dht
[09:38] <AWOSDev> *sigh* - I'd rather just update my kernel.  How does one do that?
[09:38] <zorglu_> Dr_willis: yep correct :)
[09:39] <caseyomah> mabreaux: Distributed Hash Table
[09:39] <CVirus> AWOSDev: there are no kernel major upgrades in Ubuntu
[09:39] <zorglu_> and mainline one is crappy :)
[09:39] <zorglu_> ok now lets talk p2p here :)
[09:39] <banjooie> Hah! Finally. Wow, that was a scary amount of work.
[09:39] <caseyomah> mabreaux: Verifies that files are the same (even if their filename isn't)
[09:39] <AWOSDev> 2.6.15 -> 2.6.17 is a major upgrade?
[09:39] <CVirus> AWOSDev: let me find you a gude
[09:39] <CVirus> AWOSDev: yes
[09:39] <CVirus> guide*
[09:39] <AWOSDev> I already read all the guides
[09:39] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Not all that major
[09:39] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: What are you trying/wanting to do ?
[09:40] <AWOSDev> 2.6 -> 2.8 is a major upgrade.
[09:40] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, bcm43xx
[09:40] <CVirus> AWOSDev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile?highlight=%28kernel%29
[09:40] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[09:40] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: That URL is specifically for the bcm43xx
[09:40] <draik> Is anyone here from SATX?
[09:40] <draik> San Antonio, TeXas
[09:41] <Hawkwind> draik: I'm in Houston
[09:41] <draik> Hawkwind, that's not too far from SATX, is it?
[09:41] <Hawkwind> draik: About 2 - 2 1/2 hours or so
[09:41] <CVirus> Hawkwind: this guide wont work with his particular card
[09:41] <CVirus> It seems that if you get the following string back: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) that this guide is VERY unlikly to work for you although it does sometimes, dont ask me why, but basically every "no" vote and "this didnt work for me" post comes from a BCM4318 user....
[09:42] <Hawkwind> CVirus: Worth a try since it says it sometimes does and I know 3 users who have used it with his card and it works for them
[09:42] <Ashex> how do i create a user account through cli?
[09:43] <CVirus> Ashex: adduser
[09:43] <trappist> Ashex: useradd or adduser
[09:43] <eigenvalue> Hello.
[09:43] <eigenvalue> i have a problem with an USB-HD. It is an USB-HD (NTFS formated). Kubuntu recognizes it, but its mounted only for root (no read access for other users) even if i plug it in as userxyz..
[09:43] <eigenvalue> the point is: the USB-HD is not stationary connected with the PC and the USB-Devices should be simple to access for my parents (absolutely no computer-skills).. USB-Plug-In -> Icon-Pop-Up method like Kubuntu supports would be nice..
[09:44] <zorglu_> eigenvalue: the root issue is a matter of right in the fstab command or the mount point
[09:44] <zorglu_> !ntfs
[09:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:44] <CVirus> AWOSDev: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1105667&postcount=218
[09:44] <eigenvalue> thanks, I'll have a look at it
[09:45] <trappist> eigenvalue: it generally does work like that for fat32 devices, but iirc there's an open bug on the ntfs thing
[09:45] <morghanphoenix> AWOSDev how goes it?
[09:45] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, hey!
[09:45] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, um, not too well Linux-wise.
[09:45] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, but otherwise fine :)
[09:46] <morghanphoenix> Just upgraded my ram and got an 80GB as my /home
[09:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind, sorry to hear that
[09:46] <Ashex> !print
[09:46] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:47] <trappist> ok k3b is pretty awesome.  no more command line cdrecord for me.
[09:47] <Ashex> !samba > me
[09:47] <Ashex> !samba > Ashex
[09:47] <trappist> Ashex: try /msg ubotu samba
[09:47] <Hawkwind> Admiral_Chicago: Sorry to hear what ?
[09:47] <Ashex> but this way is so much cooler!
[09:48] <trappist> Hawkwind: probably that you live in houston :)
[09:48] <Hawkwind> trappist: Ahhh!  Yeah, I'm pretty upset about it too.  Kind of don't have a choice on the matter :(
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> that you live in houston
[09:48] <Admiral_Chicago> bah that city is awful imo
[09:49] <Hawkwind> trappist: Mind a quick PM ?
[09:49] <AWOSDev> !bcm43xx
[09:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:49] <trappist> Hawkwind: any time
[09:50] <morghanphoenix> That state in general
[09:50] <AWOSDev> When I modprobed ndiswrapper my computer froze.  uh, not exactly what I'm looking for
[09:50] <morghanphoenix> I lived in Dallas for a year.
[09:50] <dein> you badmouthing texas morgan?
[09:50] <dein> nobody messes with texas
[09:50] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[09:50] <trappist> <3 texas.  on that note, this is pretty far offtopic.
[09:51] <AWOSDev> dein, you forgot sudo, operation fails :)
[09:51] <morghanphoenix> lol
[09:51] <dein> noo
[09:51] <AWOSDev> Okay so if ndiswrapper doesn't work and bcm43xx doesn't work then what?
[09:52] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Buy a natively supported card
[09:52] <morghanphoenix> Between the heat, the ravers and the cops Dallas was a terrible experiance.
[09:52] <Hawkwind> I got an Orinoco Silver card for $20 on ebay, brand new
[09:52] <dein> you removed bcm43xx module right?
[09:52] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind: what does one that doesn't want to buy a card do?
[09:52] <dinho> sera
[09:52] <AWOSDev> dein, well yeah when I tried the ndiswrapper yeah
[09:52] <trappist> it's all about the atheros chipsets
[09:53] <dein> what kind of card do you have?
[09:53] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Run a wire
[09:53] <eigenvalue> About the fstab editing. my problem is, if I use fstab to mount an USB-HD with NTFS (mount /dev/sda1), plug it out and plug in another device, like a camera or something (now: camera<- /dev/sda1): wouldn't that mean my computer would try mount the camera as a NTFS-Device
[09:53] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, so I should run an Ethernet cord to the WiFi hot spot?
[09:53] <dein> because theres supposed to be 2 options now for guys with bcm chipsets
[09:53] <AWOSDev> :)
[09:53] <AWOSDev> besides my Ethernet cord keeps disconnecting
[09:54] <AWOSDev> dein, Broadcom 4318
[09:54] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Either buy a supported card or don't complain too much.  I've been there and done that with my old card.  I finally spent $20 after a year of fighting with the other one
[09:54] <dein> is that an airport card or whatever?
[09:54] <AWOSDev> dein, AirForce One 54g
[09:55] <dein> hmm just a sec
[09:55] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, I would want to get a new one
[09:55] <n8k99> hey  anybody get amarok to work under edgy?
[09:55] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind I just don't have the available funds to get a card; if I have to buy one I want to buy a really really nice one which also means potentially $100+.
[09:55] <dein> tried this guide?
[09:55] <dein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:55] <AWOSDev> dein, yep
[09:56] <AWOSDev> requires `sudo modprobe bcm43xx'
[09:56] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Why ???  You don't need an expensive card to connect to the internet
[09:56] <dein> well keep on looking, its probably some remote bug
[09:56] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Orinoco happens to be one of the best cards out there.  I bought mine for $20 brand new in a box.  Hard deal to pass up
[09:56] <AWOSDev> Hawkwind, where?  Staples?
[09:56] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Ebay
[09:56] <AWOSDev> I want to go to Office Depot anyway, they have 100GB for $20.
[09:57] <Hawkwind> AWOSDev: Though you can find cards in Wal-mart and stuff, but most of them will be broadcomm chips
[09:57] <dein> awos whats the lscpi thingy for your card?
[09:57] <dein> er lspci
[09:57] <AWOSDev> dein, hold on I'll have to type it
[09:57] <AWOSDev> I can't paste
[09:57] <Ashex> I'm having a little trouble setting up windows shared printer in Edgy
[09:58] <AWOSDev> 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:58] <dein> 14e4:4320 (rev 03) i mean like this
[09:58] <dein> lspci -n
[09:58] <AWOSDev> 14e4:4318 (rev 02)
[09:59] <dein> k one sec
[09:59] <trappist> Hawkwind: I got an atheros card brand new in the box for $5 at the march madness sale at compusa
[09:59] <AWOSDev> grrrrrr
[09:59] <dein> u got an acer aspire?
[09:59] <AWOSDev> dein, no a Linksys
[09:59] <AWOSDev> dein, external PCMCIA
[10:00] <AWOSDev> dein, if you really need to know, it's a Compaq Presario 2100 with no built-in WLAN.
[10:00] <dein> ok
[10:00] <DaSkreech> in the /etc/init.d files
[10:00] <DaSkreech>  What does #chkconfig: <Num> mean?
[10:00] <Ashex> I'm following the ubuntu guide for setting it up, but the file it says to modify for network access (ports to accept connection on) doesn't exist in Edgy
[10:01] <ryan__> what could cause this error:      There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The Settings Daemon restarted too many times. The last error message was: System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred.GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.
[10:01] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: init level at which to launch the script ?
[10:01] <dein> Card: Linksys #[WPC54GS v2]  SpeedBooster, 54mbps/125mbps -- [link here|List#WPC54GS v2]  this one?
[10:01] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: isnt this the kinda metalangage to automatize the config ?
[10:01] <dein> ^AWOSDev
[10:01] <AWOSDev> dein, no the WPC54G v3
[10:01] <AWOSDev> hold on
[10:01] <AWOSDev> I'm in cli
[10:01] <AWOSDev> let me switch to gui.
[10:02] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: It's a comment so I doubt it
[10:02] <DaSkreech> But it's in quite a few of them
[10:02] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: hence the meta language im talking about. look at /boot/grub/menu.lst there is the same kind of meta language
[10:03] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: this is used to retrofit stuff in old format without breaking them
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Ah fascinating
[10:03] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: on fedora, you could change it with chkconfig command
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Isn't SYSV pretty damn old though?
[10:04] <dein> Driver: ndiswrapper v1.3 with bcmwl5a.inf ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/driver/ (Broadcom, 12/22/2004, v<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:04] <DaSkreech> SO it's a Redhat legacy thing?
[10:04] <DaSkreech> That actually makes a lot of sense
[10:04] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: indead, but using meta language in comment allows to keep compatibility with old thing while implementating new
[10:04] <dein> awos
[10:04] <dein> u there?
[10:04] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can install and use 'sysv-rc-conf' if you want. or you could use 'ksysv' or 'update-rc.d' :)
[10:04] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: i know redhat use it, but im sure other does as well
[10:05] <zorglu_> fdoving: ok :) DaSkreech, seen this one to modify it on kubuntu ? :)
[10:05] <AWOSDev> Okay dein I'm back
[10:06] <dein> AWOSDev try using this driver:  Driver: ndiswrapper v1.3 with bcmwl5a.inf ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/aspire_3020_5020/driver/ (Broadcom, 12/22/2004, v<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:06] <dein> of course you need to build the latest ndiswrapper as well
[10:06] <AWOSDev> dein, I already did that one
[10:06] <DaSkreech> Nope but I'll ignore them now :-)
[10:06] <AWOSDev> I got it to connect to the AP but wouldn't transfer
[10:06] <AWOSDev> okay here's the full explanation:
[10:06] <AWOSDev> it connected to the access point
[10:07] <AWOSDev> but when I unplugged my Ethernet it was still trying to use that as the primary NIC
[10:07] <AWOSDev> so I did eth0 down
[10:07] <AWOSDev> and that took the WLAN card too
[10:07] <AWOSDev> for some reason
[10:07] <dein> whats your wlans address?
[10:07] <dein> eth1 or wlan0
[10:07] <AWOSDev> and the only way to bring either one back up is to reboot the whole computer
[10:07] <AWOSDev> dein, eth1
[10:08] <dein> hmm
[10:08] <dein> does your access point have a wep key by any chance?
[10:08] <AWOSDev> WEP yes
[10:08] <dein> turn it off
[10:08] <AWOSDev> ugh
[10:09] <AWOSDev> you really don't know how hard that is
[10:09] <dein> these cards for some reason dont like wep
[10:09] <banjooie> ....
[10:09] <banjooie> huh, my name is registered on this server
[10:09] <banjooie> who knew
[10:09] <AWOSDev> but it did connect and even pinged
[10:10] <dein> well all i know is that i have a similiar broadcom chipset, and neither of them have allowed me to use wep
[10:10] <control> I'm sorry,but I have stumbled in here,I need help. Is this the right place for help with Linux?
[10:10] <dein> yes
[10:10] <AWOSDev> Okay Hawkwind which is better:  3Com, Belkin, D-Link, Hawking, Linksys, Netgear, or Toshiba?
[10:10] <dein> ok im gone
[10:11] <dein> i got stuff i needa do
[10:11] <AWOSDev> bye dein!
[10:11] <dein> bye bye
[10:11] <control> I just need help with finding a way to get flash 9 to work with Kubuntu
[10:11] <AWOSDev> control, Flash 9 will not work.
[10:11] <AWOSDev> trust me.
[10:11] <AWOSDev> impossible.
[10:12] <CainMadness> As of right now. Supposed to be working on it.
[10:12] <control> O.k! Seemed to be that way,tried everything. Thank you for helping though!
[10:13] <Kubu> which could be the best laptops for running linux?
[10:13] <Kubu> maybe thinkpad?
[10:13] <AWOSDev> Kubu, really doesn't matter
[10:13] <AWOSDev> heck my Compaq LTE 5150 circa 1996 can run 2.6
[10:13] <Kubu> i mean the most compatible
[10:14] <AWOSDev> well of course I'll recommend something like the Presario 1100.
[10:14] <AWOSDev> from 1997 with a P1.
[10:14] <AWOSDev> fully compatible though
[10:15] <control> Over and out and pleasently happy with how nice it was in here x xbye!
[10:15] <AWOSDev> bye control!
[10:16] <t> i've got ubuntu running on my thinkpad and it works great
[10:16] <t> T42
[10:16] <Kubu> im planning to buy  athinkpad
[10:16] <control> Bye AWOSDev!
[10:16] <Kubu> what gfx card they use?
[10:17] <t> my T42 has a radeon 9600 or some damn thing, i've got an A22m as well (running slackware) that uses a first gen radeon
[10:17] <AWOSDev> I have a Radeon 9xxx something or other.
[10:17] <AWOSDev> works great.
[10:17] <AWOSDev> Compaq Presario 2100.
[10:18] <t> yeah, i don't do a whole lot of gaming anymore so it's not much of a concern for me
[10:18] <AWOSDev> bought 07 Mar 2003.  Has probably about 500 miles on her.  Celeron wih 1700MHz of power.
[10:18] <AWOSDev> Did I just sound like a car salesman?  :P
[10:18] <t> a really nerdy one
[10:18] <caseyomah> LOL @ AWOSDev
[10:19] <Kubu> btw does kubuntu support dual core "Core 2 Duo" processors?
[10:19] <Kubu> with the two cores
[10:20] <AWOSDev> Kubu, don't see why not
[10:20] <AWOSDev> basically SMP
[10:20] <banjooie> so uh
[10:20] <banjooie> quick question.
[10:20] <AWOSDev> banjooie, yeah what?
[10:20] <banjooie> If, say, you click 'configure desktop'
[10:20] <banjooie> And you click 'screensavers', after having used automatix
[10:21] <AWOSDev> ew
[10:21] <banjooie> and this causes configure desktop to not only crash
[10:21] <banjooie> but take your wallpaper with it--
[10:21] <banjooie> (I can't even right click on the desktop anymore) Is there some way to fix this?
[10:21] <AWOSDev> Why doesn't anybody get *DON'T USE AUTOMATIX!*...
[10:21] <banjooie> Er, because, uh.
[10:21] <AWOSDev> banjooie, hmm don't know
[10:21] <banjooie> If it weren't for Automatix installing /basic shit I need/.
[10:22] <AWOSDev> banjooie, personally I'd just reinstall
[10:22] <banjooie> I'd be up all night trying for basic--you gotta be kidding me.
[10:22] <banjooie> Does that require I reformat the whole thing too?
[10:22] <AWOSDev> banjooie, probably an easier way to fix it exists, but I wouldn't know it
[10:22] <AWOSDev> no no no don't reformat
[10:22] <AWOSDev> you could just install over it
[10:22] <AWOSDev> but I *personally* would reformat
[10:22] <banjooie> make up your goddamn mind
[10:23] <AWOSDev> best to just start over in those kind of situations
[10:23] <AWOSDev> !language
[10:23] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:23] <Blacken> Automatix sucks. Period. Use EasyUbuntu.
[10:23] <AWOSDev> banjooie, just backup and reformat and reinstall
[10:23] <morghanphoenix> what's the syntax for copying something in terminal?
[10:23] <AWOSDev> and this time don't use automatix
[10:24] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix, cp /from/whatever /to/whatever
[10:24] <Blacken> morghanphoenix: cp from to
[10:24] <banjooie> ...okay. so. I have a Kubuntu CD I burnt. Do I just use that, format the whole drive, and start again.
[10:24] <AWOSDev> banjooie yes
[10:24] <banjooie> okay.
[10:24] <Blacken> banjooie: Yeah, pretty much.
[10:24] <AWOSDev> banjooie just make sure you have a backup
[10:24] <banjooie> ...I don't...really have that much I need to back up. I've had linux for two days.
[10:24] <morghanphoenix> do I need to put the file name in the to path?
[10:24] <AWOSDev> oh :P
[10:24] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix no
[10:25] <morghanphoenix> okay, thanks
[10:25] <banjooie> Yeah. My monitor can't handle safe mode in windows.
[10:25] <banjooie> I got spywared.
[10:25] <AWOSDev> morghanphoenix e.g.              cp ~/Desktop/* /backup/
[10:25] <banjooie> 15 minutes after I burnt kubuntu to a CD-R to get it off my hard drive.
[10:25] <banjooie> I call that a sign, y'know?
[10:25] <AWOSDev> banjooie, yeah :)
[10:26] <t> spyware, what's that? ;-)
[10:26] <CainMadness> It's a type of bird, common to South Africa.
[10:27] <AWOSDev> t :)
[10:27] <AWOSDev> !spyware
[10:27] <AWOSDev> See it doesn't exist on Linux :)
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spyware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <t> can I make it work on linux?
[10:28] <t> with wine or something?
[10:28] <mini_g> maybe with vmware and a copy of windows 98
[10:29] <AWOSDev> t, yes
[10:29] <t> :-D
[10:29] <AWOSDev> t, somebody actually *did* get a virus running on WINE :)
[10:29] <AWOSDev> t, I got SpyBot on my WINE for just such an emergency
[10:30] <mini_g> might need AdAwareSE also ;D
[10:33] <AWOSDev> Okay where can I get a list of natively compatible cards for Ubuntu?
[10:34] <AWOSDev> like is the D-Link WNA-1330?
[10:35] <AWOSDev> Wow I just had a query with myself.
[10:35] <AWOSDev> That was weird.
[10:36] <AWOSDev> I clicked on the wrong nick :P
[10:36] <CainMadness> Obviously.
[10:37] <AWOSDev> Wow.
[10:37] <_Shade_> hi there
[10:37] <AWOSDev> A lot of D-Link cards work out of the box.
[10:38] <lee_> hi
[10:39] <_Shade_> maybe it's a jerky question, but what's launchpad karma points for ?
[10:39] <AWOSDev> _Shade_, lee_, do either of you have a question?
[10:39] <AWOSDev> _Shade_ no clue.
[10:39] <lee_> no just installed and having a play
[10:39] <lee_> if that is ok?
[10:40] <Ank_186> hey people, I tried to play a DVD and got "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins." Does anyone know what this means?
[10:40] <AWOSDev> Atheros is good?
[10:40] <orient2000> I have 6 MB mp3 file. What program would be good to compress it and cut in a pieces so I can e-mail it then?
[10:40] <AWOSDev> lee_ yeah that's fine :)
[10:40] <_Shade_> does anyone know when the next pre-release will be done on edgy's way to the final one.
[10:41] <AWOSDev> orient2000 bzip2
[10:41] <AWOSDev> !edgy
[10:41] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:41] <lee_> cool
[10:41] <AWOSDev> !schedule
[10:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:41] <orient2000> is it in kubuntu by defoult?
[10:41] <AWOSDev> _Shade_ October 19th
[10:41] <AWOSDev> RC1
[10:41] <AWOSDev> per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:42] <AWOSDev> orient2000 I think so
[10:42] <AWOSDev> Ank_186 DVD needs libdvdcss2
[10:42] <orient2000> thanks
[10:42] <AWOSDev> do you have that?
[10:42] <_Shade_> RC... ? hmmm not too fast ? don't you think ?
[10:42] <AWOSDev> _Shade_ what do you mean?
[10:43] <Ank_186> I don't know
[10:43] <Ank_186> what is it?
[10:43] <_Shade_> AWOSDev i meant we had JUST one beta version before so far...
[10:43] <AWOSDev> Ank_186 - if you don't know then you don't have it :)
[10:43] <AWOSDev> Ank_186 go into the Konsole
[10:43] <AWOSDev> _Shade_ Yeah it does seem a little premature to go straight from Beta to RC1 to Final in about two weeks...
[10:44] <tony_> newbie question::: installed mysql-admin, using adept , later i removed it , but i still have the entry in systems Menu.. is that normal ?
[10:44] <AWOSDev> Ank_186 then type "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss"
[10:44] <method|> what's the equilavent of doing a /ipconfig renew in linux?
[10:44] <method|> it's like network service restart or something
[10:44] <AWOSDev> tony_ yeah type "kbuildsycoca" in the Konsole to fix it
[10:45] <AWOSDev> method| - IIRC it's sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[10:45] <_Shade_> AWOSDev and though i have heard edgy is very stable yet, so i don't know what to think about it
[10:45] <Bazzi> AWOSDev: well one could argue that edgy is an experimental release ;)
[10:45] <tony_> i get error : no database avalible
[10:46] <Keyblade> hello!
[10:46] <Keyblade> hello ?
[10:46] <AWOSDev> Is Atheos good?
[10:46] <AWOSDev> Keyblade Hello.
[10:46] <AWOSDev> **Atheros
[10:47] <Ank_186> it tells me command not found
[10:47] <orient2000> I have bzip installed but I can not find it.
[10:47] <_Shade_> I'd gladly see the release postponment
[10:47] <Keyblade> hey um, I'm going to buy an iBook G3 from a guy I know who will install kubuntu 6.06 on it for me, all for $20 since he got it for free from his work
[10:48] <Keyblade> it doesn't come with a power supply though, so i'll have to get one off ebay or something
[10:48] <AWOSDev> Ank_186 - apt-get?
[10:48] <AWOSDev> orient2000 - type "bzip2" on the Konsole
[10:48] <AWOSDev> Keyblade Coolness :)
[10:48] <Keyblade> What I want to do with it: mostly word processing - all the documents I type are going to need to be readable by other windows computers
[10:49] <AWOSDev> Keyblade OpenOffice
[10:49] <t> my thinkpad has atheros a/b/g wifi, works fine with the madwifi drivers
[10:49] <AWOSDev> !openoffice
[10:49] <Keyblade> so ... I mean, obviously, I need to put openofice.org or something on there yeah
[10:49] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[10:49] <Ank_186> that's what it said
[10:49] <AWOSDev> t, good
[10:49] <AWOSDev> I want a SuperG though
[10:49] <lee_> newbie question sorry! when trying to look at the hard drive i get
[10:49] <lee_> Could not mount device.
[10:49] <lee_> The reported error was:
[10:49] <lee_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:49] <AWOSDev> http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=429245&Nr=200000&N=200143%204294951765&Ne=119&An=browse
[10:49] <t> can't say for sure on that, may want to check the madwifi project page
[10:50] <Keyblade> but um, if I put a USB flash drive in this apple/linux laptop, and put a document from openoffice on it, when I stick the flash drive in a windows computer, will the windows computer read it ???
[10:50] <AWOSDev> lee_ try mount -t <file system, e.g. type vfat here> /dev/hdb1 /mount/point/goes/here
[10:50] <lee_> ta
[10:50] <AWOSDev> Keyblade, if you save it as MS Word.
[10:50] <Keyblade> ah. hmm.
[10:50] <Keyblade> what about plain text ?
[10:50] <_Shade_> how can i use my multimedia keyboard in kubuntu? will edgy handle it since i've seen it does well with the laptops' keyboards
[10:50] <Keyblade> or rtf
[10:51] <AWOSDev> Keyblade, yeah plain text works too
[10:51] <AWOSDev> Don't know about RTF, lemme look
[10:51] <Ashex> _Shade_, what keyboard do you have?
[10:51] <Keyblade> ok, so i can save .txt files like windows normal then? ok cool
[10:51] <Ashex> Edgy handles the keys on my multimedia keyboard, but the volume keys are still a little freaky
[10:51] <Ashex> I've gotten the mute keys and the playback keys working so far in edgy
[10:51] <_Shade_> Ashex you mean the model or something ?
[10:51] <Ashex> _Shade_, yeah
[10:51] <Keyblade> anybody know a good place to buy iBook power supplies ?
[10:52] <Keyblade> like, cheap
[10:52] <Keyblade> ?
[10:52] <Keyblade> really cheap?
[10:52] <AWOSDev> Keyblade, also Kate the KDE Advanced Text Editor for .txt too
[10:52] <Ashex> the internet
[10:52] <AWOSDev> Keyblade - eBay
[10:52] <Keyblade> ok so ebay's my best bet then ok.
[10:52] <tony_> any canadian out here ?
[10:52] <Keyblade> wasn't sure if there was a better place
[10:52] <AWOSDev> I sometimes wish I *were* a Canadian.
[10:52] <AWOSDev> but I'm not :)
[10:53] <tony_> where you from awsodev
[10:53] <AWOSDev> Keyblade: supported file formats
[10:53] <AWOSDev> tony_: Florida
[10:53] <tony_> COOOOOOOOOOL
[10:53] <orient2000> I need to resize mp3 to lower quality as it is not a music. What program can I use?
[10:53] <tony_> what part of florida
[10:53] <windshear> seems as kubuntu 6.10 beta doesn't like my soundcard, a c-media AC97 Audio device.
[10:53] <windshear> I get error message: Sound server fatal error cpu overload, aborting.
[10:53] <windshear> In kubuntu 6.06 it worked with no problem.
[10:54] <_Shade_> Ashex i can't find it now... it's some tracer keyboard
[10:54] <AWOSDev> Keyblade: MS Word 97/2000/XP, MS Word 95, MS Word 6.0, Rich Text Format, StarWriter 5.0/4.0/3.0, Plaint Text, HTML, Word 2003 XML, DocBook, AportisDoc (Palm) and Pocket Word.
[10:54] <Ashex> _Shade_, if you're still on dapper, get a hold of hotkeys and take a look at its man
[10:54] <AWOSDev> tony_, South
[10:55] <tony_> i have a friend there , she is in south too
[10:55] <tony_> have you been to canada ?
[10:55] <AWOSDev> tony_ No but I almost went once
[10:55] <tony_> :)
[10:55] <tony_> i live in montreal
[10:55] <AWOSDev> tony_ I want to see the St. Thomas Assembly Plant.
[10:55] <tony_> you welcome to come and vist :)
[10:56] <AWOSDev> I'm thinking about it possibly next June.
[10:56] <windshear> anyon knows why ac97 is not sppot
[10:56] <orient2000> I need to resize mp3 to lower quality as it is not a music. What program can I use?
[10:56] <_Shade_> Ashex yes i'm still on dapper... more over i am not sure whether i would install edgy since they're going too fast with the releases imho... how do you think ? is it worth a try
[10:56] <orient2000> maybe some program to cut mp3 in 6 pieces?
[10:57] <AWOSDev> orient2000, personally I would use Audacity.
[10:57] <tony_> I live next to MATROX
[10:57] <tony_> heheh
[10:57] <orient2000> I go check it out.
[10:57] <tony_> if that is good enough .. '
[10:58] <AWOSDev> It's near Toronto, so that's a little far
[10:58] <tony_> yep, 4 hours drive
[10:58] <AWOSDev> orient2000, just "sudo apt-get install audacity"
[10:59] <tony_> what do they do in that plant
[10:59] <tony_> ?
[10:59] <AWOSDev> Ford Crown Victorias
[10:59] <tony_> i see
[10:59] <AWOSDev> I love Ford Crown Victorias
[11:00] <AWOSDev> http://www.Google.com/maps?q=St.+Thomas,+Ontario
[11:00] <tony_> i have a rusted pontiac sunfire . lol
[11:00] <tony_> thats good enough
[11:00] <tony_> :)
[11:00] <AWOSDev> tony_ :)
[11:01] <AWOSDev> I personally think that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cv_2006.jpg <--- that is the most beautiful car ever
[11:02] <AWOSDev> anyway
[11:02] <AWOSDev> I should go now
[11:02] <AWOSDev> Bye!
[11:03] <orient2000> Thanks. Audacity is a very good program. I had no idea. Thanks.
[11:05] <jhutchins_wk2> Is there an alternative to plf's ubuntu repos?
[11:06] <Keyblade> um ... does anybody know whether it matters how many inches long an iBook is for a power adapter to work with it ?
[11:07] <jhutchins_wk2> Keyblade: You mean do differnt size iBooks have different voltages or something?
[11:07] <DaSkreech> Anyone using seamonkey?
[11:08] <_Shade_> ok laterz
[11:08] <_Shade_> gtg
[11:09] <Keyblade> yeah jhutchins
[11:09] <|lostbyte|> !seamonkey
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Keyblade> or differently shaped dangly things
[11:09] <Keyblade> man ... Douglas Adams was right
[11:09] <dom> seamonkey would be the mozilla suite.  i don't know anyone that uses it
[11:09] <Keyblade> about the little dangly things
[11:10] <Keyblade> (if anybody's read that particualr piece about the War on Little Dangly Things i'll be very impressed)
[11:11] <banjooie> well, that was easy enough
[11:11] <JacksLivr> afternoon all: i have a Dell Latitude D620 and cannot get the system to see my wireless card. Goggle says to make sure linux-restrited-modules are what I need. I have them but my wireless card still does not show up. help please
[11:13] <Keyblade> aha i found this http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75448
[11:13] <cedric_64> Salut, Si vous rechercher un shell IRC pour heberger un server irc un eggdrop ou un bnc aller sur: www.roxshell.net (config: Sempron 2800, 1.5go de ram, 80go de dd, onduleur 40min, conn.: 8mega(ip fixe)) - !!!Offre 1 access au Shell pour les 10 premier personne!!! server irc: irc.roxshell.net
[11:13] <Blacken> ...asshats.
[11:14] <tm24fan> i have the same problem as JacksLivr but mine is a dell inspiron E1505 notebook
[11:14] <tony_> I need to add some Icon (.png) to my menus..i was wondring , where is the bast place to copy the PNG files ? i don't want them to be in my home directory
[11:14] <Blacken> tm24fan: Unless you spent extra and didn't get the Intel built-in, your drivers should be fine. I have the E1505 and am using it right now.
[11:15] <tm24fan> Blacken: i do have the intel integrated wireless, however it doesnt seem to want to detect it
[11:15] <Blacken> tm24fan: Strange...mine worked out of the box. Which version are you running?
[11:15] <tm24fan> Blacken: kubuntu 6.06 dapper drake
[11:15] <Blacken> tm24fan: Same here, too...
[11:16] <tm24fan> Blacken: you didnt have to set anything up or anything like that?  it just worked out of the box?
[11:16] <Blacken> tm24fan: The only things I don't have working are the non-volume hardbuttons and the PCMCIA controller which I don't use.
[11:17] <Blacken> tm24fan: Everything else worked right out of the box. The SD reader, sound (though recording doesn't work), and of course the graphics needed the ATI drivers but worked without 'em.
[11:17] <Blacken> Speaking of which--how do I enable DRI on an ATI card?
[11:17] <tm24fan> Blacken: yeah i have sound (havent tried recording yet) and i only have the intel integrated graphics so that wasnt a problem
[11:18] <Blacken> tm24fan: PCMCIA is probably shot, if yours is anything like mine. But with onboard wireless I've never needed it.
[11:18] <tm24fan> it all works great on winxp media center, which is what i have as my other OS on there, but kubuntu has issues with my wireless
[11:19] <tm24fan> Blacken: havent tried anything with PCMCIA either, never needed itr
[11:19] <tm24fan> it*
[11:20] <Blacken> tm24fan: Not sure what to tell you. Try ndiswrapper?
[11:20] <tm24fan> Blacken: i've heard that's a pain to set up
[11:21] <Blacken> tm24fan: Yup. And you lose leet points for doing it. But it's the only suggestion I can offer ya. :P
[11:22] <Blacken> tm24fan: Maybe someone else will know more, though.
[11:22] <tm24fan> Blacken: ok well thanks for your help :)
[11:22] <Blacken> tm24fan: Did the liveCD work, by any chance? The wirelesss?
[11:22] <tm24fan> Blacken: wouldnt know, didnt try it...had it wired for that
[11:23] <Blacken> tm24fan: Hrm. You know, I actually had the reverse problem with 5.10...wireless worked, wired didn't.
[11:23] <tm24fan> Blacken: that's really weird
[11:24] <tm24fan> Blacken: i wouldnt know if i had the same problem, i didnt have my laptop until after 6.06 came out...and 5.10 worked fine on both of my desktops
[11:25] <Keyblade> ok well i'll make sure and come back to this chan when ... I mean if my new OS crashes. :)
[11:25] <Keyblade> cya :)
[11:26] <mabreaux> Is there any work being done in edgy (6.10) as for as making wireless networking easier to install?
[11:27] <tm24fan> mabreaux: i hope so...
[11:27] <mabreaux> me too
[11:28] <trappist> mabreaux: for gnome users, yes.  for kde users, sorta.
[11:28] <mabreaux> Ubuntu is slightly ahead of Kubuntu in this matter but both have a long way to go.
[11:28] <mabreaux> I really do not like gnome......
[11:28] <trappist> mabreaux: but there is some cool new stuff, like when my ath0 comes up it automatically mounts all my network drives
[11:28] <DaSkreech> mabreaux: use sawfish :)
[11:28] <Blacken> They've both always been plug and play for me. Only thing Ubuntu does better is network-admin, which I use under KDE right now.
[11:29] <tm24fan> mabreaux: i dont either, i prefer kde, but i've actually been using gnome and not hating it too much
[11:29] <mabreaux> what is sawfish
[11:29] <belara> hola
[11:29] <mabreaux> I grew up in KDE
[11:29] <trappist> mabreaux: another desktop environment.  pretty cool, really, but not as full-featured as kde or gnome.
[11:30] <tm24fan> is it as bad as xfce?
[11:30] <mabreaux> I tried to install gnome into a kubutu and it failed very badly
[11:30] <trappist> tm24fan: from what I recall, it's a lot better looking
[11:30] <Blacken> *shrug* GNOME absolutely exploded when I installed KDE onto Ubuntu.
[11:31] <Blacken> I like the KDE graphics more than the Kubuntu ones; I wish I could find 'em.
[11:31] <tm24fan> mabreaux: i have a dvd from Linux Format Magazine which has a ubuntu multipack...effectively you get gnome, kde, and xfce, all fully functioning...its kinda nice except xfce sucks
[11:31] <nuxil> !equlizer
[11:31] <mabreaux> did the same for me when I tried to install gnome
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about equlizer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <nuxil> !eq
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <nuxil> :(
[11:31] <trappist> ubotu: do you have a question?
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you have a question? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <trappist> err
[11:32] <trappist> dangit
[11:32] <trappist> nuxil: do you have a question?
[11:32] <nuxil> i need a eq
[11:32] <trappist> nuxil: try kmix, aumix or alsamixer.
[11:32] <trappist> or alsamixergui
[11:32] <nuxil> no.. not a mixer
[11:32] <trappist> oh wait :)  yeah
[11:33] <trappist> iirc that's application-specific.  for example, xmms has its own eq.
[11:33] <mabreaux> so are you running the beta currently?
[11:33] <nuxil> no i need a backend for alsa or someting like that
[11:33] <trappist> nuxil: right, I'm saying I don't think there's such a thing.
[11:34] <nuxil> trappist, Im not using xmms
[11:34] <trappist> nuxil: no, I figured if you were you wouldn't be looking for an equalizer :)
[11:34] <nuxil> lol yea right :)
[11:34] <trappist> apt-cache search equalizer only turns up xmms stuff and LADSPA stuff
[11:34] <banjooie> wtf
[11:34] <banjooie> why isn't adept working
[11:35] <trappist> whatever LADSPA is
[11:35] <Blacken> banjooie: Save yourself some hassle, get Synaptic.
[11:35] <banjooie> ...Yeah, that'd be nice, but I can't even seem to open debs right now.
[11:35] <Blacken> banjooie: dpkg locked?
[11:35] <mabreaux> does adept clain the is files are locked?
[11:35] <trappist> nuxil: what *are* you using?
[11:35] <banjooie> No, it...it pretty much just froze up after I successfully searched for updates.
[11:36] <nuxil> as a player? apollon and amarok
[11:36] <mabreaux> I quite using adept and switch to synaptic.   adept had too many problems
[11:36] <cpk1_> nuxil: amarok has an eq
[11:36] <lcordier> Hi, I've a problem with Kontact, who can help me... please....
[11:37] <nuxil> cpk1_, it dosent work well.. as i said,, i need a backend for alsa of some sort,,, not a eq thats intergrert in the application
[11:37] <trappist> lcordier: I for one don't volunteer myself as the guy who can help until I know what the problem is
[11:37] <Blacken> adept *is* a problem. >< It's so user-hostile.
[11:38] <lcordier> trappist > the is simple : I configure Kontact to mail with Yahoo. It's ok
[11:38] <lcordier> trappist> but when I want to send message, Kontact do nothing
[11:38] <cpk1_> adept is user hostile?
[11:38] <trappist> nuxil: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rteq/
[11:39] <lcordier> trappist> there is no error message
[11:39] <trappist> lcordier: is there anything in your outbox?
[11:39] <ranjan> can ie 7 beta be install using wine?
[11:39] <lcordier> Yes
[11:39] <lcordier> trappist> I have 3 messages in outbox
[11:39] <lcordier> trappist> It's very strange
[11:39] <trappist> lcordier: you set up both a sending and receiving account?
[11:40] <nuxil> trappist, alright :D thank you
[11:40] <lcordier> trappist> Yes of course
[11:40] <trappist> nuxil: it hasn't been updated in over 4 years, so don't get your hopes up :)
[11:40] <lcordier> trappist> If I made a mistake Kontact send me an error message.. but there no one
[11:40] <nuxil> :(
[11:41] <lcordier> trappist> I seem that kontact do nothing..
[11:41] <ranjan> ie7beta installtion help plese nayone?
[11:42] <Blacken> ranjan: I think you're looking for WINE help...
[11:42] <trappist> lcordier: that's awfully difficult to diagnose.  I'm not sure what to look at.
[11:42] <cpk1_> lcordier: does yahoo use ssl for sending messags? did you enable it if so?
[11:42] <lcordier> trappist> I try to make a mistake in configuraiton, and I try to send a message and I haven't error message to...
[11:42] <trappist> lcordier: are there other sending accounts set up?
[11:42] <ranjan> yes is there a wine forum?
[11:43] <trappist> ranjan: try #winehq
[11:43] <trappist> (I think that's what it is)
[11:43] <ranjan> ty
[11:43] <cpk1_> ranjan: but try wine /this/installsie.exe
[11:44] <ranjan> cpk: it doesn't work
[11:44] <lcordier> cpk1_ > If yahoo require ssl for sending message and if i dont select this parameter Kontact must to send me an error message, it's true?
[11:44] <cpk1_> lcordier: I have no idea
[11:44] <cpk1_> ranjan: which wine version do you have?
[11:44] <lcordier> cpk1_ > thank you to try :-)
[11:44] <cpk1_> are yo using the updated wine repo?
[11:45] <trappist> lcordier: it should, yes.
[11:45] <ranjan> yes cpk
[11:45] <trappist> lcordier: it could be that yahoo is taking a very long time to respond, and you just haven't gotten an error message *yet*
[11:45] <Frederick> folks how do I open a root terminal window in ubuntu?
[11:46] <trappist> Frederick: open a non-root terminal window and use sudo
[11:46] <Blacken> Frederick: sudo su -
[11:46] <Frederick> trappist: tried but I need a root window
[11:46] <Blacken> (for some reason, without the dash it seems to lock out my sbin directory. Odd.
[11:46] <trappist> Frederick: I don't even know what root window means
[11:46] <lcordier> trappist> when I use evolution, I haven't problem with the same parameters... so I don't think that Yahoo is taking a very long time...
[11:46] <Blacken> trappist: ...A terminal window under root.
[11:47] <Blacken> trappist: You know. Hash prompt.
[11:47] <Hawkwind> No need for that.  Just use sudo
[11:47] <trappist> Blacken: without the dash, you don't really become root, so /sbin doesn't get added to your $PATH
[11:47] <Frederick> trappist: a console window opened and logged as root
[11:47] <trappist> Blacken: well, you do but you don't.  anyway PATH doesn't get reset.
[11:47] <Hawkwind> Or setup a traditional root account real quick and then you can simply use su - if you really must
[11:47] <trappist> Frederick: try kdesu konsole
[11:48] <blood> standard terminal had a option like "administration terminal"
[11:48] <lcordier> trappist> thank for all. I'll try to search any more on the web
[11:48] <lcordier> trappist> see you soon
[11:48] <Frederick> trappist: no luck
[11:48] <trappist> Frederick: can you be more specific?  works here.
[11:48] <Hawkwind> Frederick: What are you trying to do exactly ?
[11:49] <cpk1_> Frederick: i dont get it, sudo su - should work
[11:49] <Frederick> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yE9APB79.html
[11:50] <trappist> Frederick: those errors can be ignored
[11:50] <Frederick> Hawkwind: I got a program wich does a broadcast ping I can't use it as a regular user if you want I can post the source
[11:50] <Hawkwind> Frederick: That's normal on a Kubuntu install.  That will not keep it from opening
[11:50] <Hawkwind> Frederick: So just use sudo or create a traditional root account if you must
[11:50] <Frederick> but it doesn'r shows up it freezes in those errors
[11:50] <Hawkwind> !bad device
[11:50] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[11:50] <trappist> Frederick: you could set the setuid bit on /bin/ping
[11:51] <Frederick> sudo su did the trick :P
[11:51] <trappist> Hawkwind: afaik the only different between ubuntu's root and traditional root is that there's no password
[11:51] <trappist> *difference
[11:51] <Hawkwind> trappist: That's probably correct.  I was just giving ideas since I really don't have all the information either :)
[11:52] <banjooie> Okay, when I open up a .deb file
[11:52] <banjooie> it says, in ark: this utility is not in your $PATH.
[11:52] <cpk1_> trappist: if you dont set a root password you cant login as root
[11:52] <trappist> if it were me, I'd setuid /bin/ping instead of giving an app a whole root console to play with
[11:52] <trappist> cpk1_: right.  that's the idea.
[11:52] <trappist> cpk1_: except using sudo, of course.
[11:53] <trappist> time to go home!
[11:58] <nuku> hi.. on edgy the kde file dialogs just show "home" and "media" in / .. how can i make the other folders visible?
[12:04] <nuku> ok found the .hidden in / ... wonder if it really makes sense.. at least /mnt should be shown :/
[12:09] <banjooie> okay
[12:09] <banjooie> Ark won't open .deb files
[12:09] <banjooie> claiming that the utility is not in $path
[12:09] <banjooie> what do I do
[12:10] <Dr_willis> why do you want to open a .deb ?
[12:10] <Dr_willis> mc may be able to open them
[12:10] <banjooie> er
[12:10] <banjooie> so I can run easy ubuntu
[12:10] <Dr_willis> ive 'unpacked' them some how befor.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> huh...
[12:10] <Dr_willis> what does unpacking a .deb have to do with easyubuntu?