[00:00] <Neo2> probably won't change, gnome is difficult customize, and I've know unity
[00:01] <kenrin> difficult to customize?  Maybe without the gnome-tweak-tool
[00:09] <theablestman> hi
[00:10] <theablestman> how i do i install ubuntu dual boot from windows 7
[00:10] <theablestman> i was used to be able to install it with installer i seem to not find it
[00:12] <lordcirth> theablestman, the wubi installer is no longer supported.  It's done the usual way now.  Shrink the windows partition and boot from an Ubuntu installer USB.
[00:12] <theablestman> how
[00:13] <lordcirth> theablestman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[00:16] <theablestman> sorry im back closed irc by mistake
[00:16] <theablestman> repost please
[00:17] <tsarompy> anybody know if theres a plasma widget to control mpd?
[00:17] <theablestman> so there is no way i can install from my hdd?
[00:17] <tsarompy> everything is for kde4 :|
[00:17] <tsarompy> what you tryin to do theablestman?
[00:17] <kenrin> You install ubuntu from iso,  not from your hdd
[00:18] <theablestman> i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[00:18] <theablestman> k
[00:18] <Bashing-om> theablestman: "18:13 < lordcirth> theablestman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot"
[00:18] <theablestman> i have no usb dvd
[00:18] <theablestman> ty
[00:19] <Bashing-om> !install | theablestman
[00:19] <gun1x> ,v nvidia
[00:19] <theablestman> ty
[00:19] <gun1x> is anybody on artful avrak?
[00:20] <gun1x> *artful aardvark
[00:21] <Mehrzad> Will ubuntu continue using Xorg?
[00:21] <gun1x> Mehrzad: xorg will die with time. why are you asking?
[00:21] <Mehrzad> I found it lighter, and with less problems with my current version of ubuntu
[00:22] <TigerMonarchy> Hi all. I could really use some help with this wifi issue. I know I have two different wifi connections causing conflict, and my wifi drops at random times into a 'device not ready' state. If anyone could help, I would be very grateful. I'm on Xfce with Ubuntu 17.04.
[00:23] <Neo2> is this official ubuntu with gnome? https://ubuntugnome.org/
[00:23] <Neo2> unity  won't support now, better instantly use gnome
[00:37] <eraserpencil> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26275051/
[00:37] <eraserpencil> need help understanding output i get
[00:37] <Neo2> what does means ubuntu flavor?
[00:37] <Neo2> ubuntu gnome is like usual ubuntu?
[00:38] <lordcirth> Neo2, Ubuntu Gnome is Ubuntu, but with the Gnome desktop.
[00:38] <Neo2> lordcirth: see this is all ubuntu too?
[00:38] <lordcirth> eraserpencil, are you trying to compile Postgres?
[00:39] <lordcirth> Neo2, yes, it is
[00:39] <Neo2> I see on diagram a few OS from this list is derived from ubuntu? They all are children of ubuntu?
[00:39] <lordcirth> Neo2, they are very little different, which is why they are called 'flavours'
[00:40] <lordcirth> eraserpencil, seems you need to install 'bison' and 'flex', as it says.
[00:40] <Neo2> well, understood
[00:40] <eraserpencil> I have installed the postgresql package on the oficial repos though
[00:40] <Neo2> and what is good for download, I've known soon will new ubuntu without unity and with gnome, Gnome is better?
[00:40] <Dagronmaster> eraserpencil:  apt-get install flex bison libreadline-dev
[00:41] <lordcirth> eraserpencil, ok, so where did this output come from?  What command did you run and why?
[00:41] <eraserpencil> https://github.com/apple/ccs-calendarserver
[00:41] <eraserpencil> I ran ./bin/develop
[00:42] <eraserpencil> and for future reference, where do I find the config.log that the output recommends?
[00:43] <Dagronmaster> conifg.log should be in the same directory as the configure script.
[00:43] <lordcirth> eraserpencil, are you trying to help with development, or just run it?  It seems that the package 'calendarserver' does exist
[00:43] <Dagronmaster> actually, it looks like you can either install libreadline-dev or just do ./configure --without-readline
[00:45] <eraserpencil> lordcirth:  ./bin/run/ gives that output too, so I tried ./bin/develop
[00:46] <eraserpencil> Dagronmaster: how did you arrive at libreadline-dev? why isnt it other readline libraries?
[00:46] <Dagronmaster> because this program compiles against libreadline, so the -dev version is necessary
[00:47] <Dagronmaster> I suspect the non-dev version will also be installed
[00:48] <eraserpencil> Dagronmaster: i see. and when the output suggests visiting log files (config.log in this case), where do i go? i couldnt find it in /var/log
[00:49] <Neo2> how better to create boot flash? Last time I used unetbootin
[00:49] <Neo2> now, official site is dissipated
[00:49] <kenrin> Easy way is to just dd if=blah.iso of=/your/usb
[00:50] <lordcirth> Neo2, from Windows?  Rufus is good
[00:50] <lordcirth> kenrin, I think he's only got windows to start with
[00:50] <kenrin> Well he didn't specify
[00:50] <Dagronmaster> eraserpencil:  Normally, I'd say it is in the same directory as 'configure'.  However, the build process for this thing seems to follow an unusual process.    I'd try to find a file named 'configure'.  That's where I'd expect to find config.log
[00:50] <kenrin> You can run dd from windows though,  or cygwin,  or wsl
[00:52] <eraserpencil> Dagronmaster: kk thanks
[00:53] <Dagronmaster> eraserpencil:  what happens when you run ./bin/develop?
[00:54] <eraserpencil> Dagronmaster: no idea. I installed the remaining dependencies that were lacking and ran ./bin/run
[00:54] <eraserpencil> going good so far
[00:54] <Dagronmaster> ok
[01:00] <jk^> i'm trying xubuntu, it's a bit slow, i don't know if i have to use it yet or to try the "lightest" lubuntu :\
[01:00] <jk^> how to behave?
[01:01] <_KaszpiR_> try lxde
[01:03] <jk^> mmmh :| xubuntu is so good :| someone tells me lubuntu is too minimal
[01:03] <jk^> :\
[01:03] <jk^> too poor
[01:03] <jk^> _KaszpiR_,
[01:04] <yeats> jk^: if your system is struggling running xubuntu, lubuntu probably won't be much better imo
[01:06] <lordcirth> jk^, slow how?  CPU, RAM, or graphics?
[01:06] <lordcirth> Or hard drive?
[01:06] <lordcirth> You could try using a lighter browser
[01:07] <jk^> i don't know
[01:08] <ghostnik11> does anyone know if kernel 4.12 is stable yet?
[01:09] <jk^> 1,4 GHz Intel Celeron M; 2 GB of RAM, graphic card: Intel Mobile Intel 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (HP); HD 37GB TOSHIBA MK4026GAX (ATA)	43 ḞC
[01:09] <jk^> lordcirth,
[01:12] <lordcirth> jk^, open 'htop' from the System menu or command line, and look at the graphs while it's being slow
[01:13] <jk^> lordcirth, i don't even know if i have to install "proprietary drivers" :\ i'm talking about the drivers i can download from official site of machine's manufacturers, or from site of the sound card, video card, or even the little adapter ethernet-usb i use to connect to router... I don't know many things of linux world
[01:13] <jk^> there are two app
[01:13] <jk^> Gestore processi
[01:14] <jk^> and Gigolo
[01:14] <orizzle> does anyone know of a good command line software that can stream video from stdin?
[01:14] <jk^> gestore processi may be translate "Processes manager"
[01:14] <jk^> gigolo i don't know what is
[01:14] <jk^> lordcirth,
[01:15] <lordcirth> Just open a terminal and run 'htop', then
[01:15] <lordcirth> orizzle, from stdin to displaying on screen?
[01:15] <al2o3-cr> orizzle: ffmpeg
[01:15] <lordcirth> orizzle, mpv will do that I think
[01:17] <melp> do you guys think a 1050 Ti will handle 3x 4K monitors? just running GNOME or KDE, no games or stuff
[01:18] <Duckle-kiwi> Hey there, so I ran a program (minecraft) to see if my ultrabook could handle it. It could not. Now the main tty is frozen, but atm Im in tty4 using irssi
[01:18] <onlyabyte> melp: That depends on what the output of the ports can deliver. If there is DP and HDMI, I'm sure it will handle it well.
[01:18] <Duckle-kiwi> How can I restart tty1?
[01:18] <Duckle-kiwi> when I say tty1 I mean the gui on ctrl+alt?f1
[01:19] <onlyabyte> The main tty is tty7 no Duckle-kiwi ?
[01:19] <Duckle-kiwi> ctrl+alt+f1 is where my gui is
[01:19] <onlyabyte> Ah okay
[01:19] <Duckle-kiwi> Im using ubuntu gnome 17.10
[01:19] <Duckle-kiwi> oh, it seems to have fixed itself
[01:19] <Duckle-kiwi> just took some time
[01:20] <Duckle-kiwi> heh. thanks :P
[01:20] <Duckle-kiwi> exit
[01:20] <Duckle-kiwi> oops
[01:20] <onlyabyte> haha
[01:21] <jk^> lordcirth, nothing happens
[01:21] <lordcirth> jk^, what do you mean?  Did htop open?
[01:21] <jk^> no
[01:22] <ghostnik11> hey i am trying to add a patched kernel = 4.12 that contains specific patches for my device. how can i do so using terminal because i read that i first have to get stuff like the deb image and the 2 headers first
[01:22] <lordcirth> jk^, you typed 'htop' into Terminal and pressed Enter?
[01:22] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, where are you getting the kernel from?
[01:23] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, i am getting it from the google + group asus t100 with linux
[01:24] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, ok, is it a .deb package, a .patch file, a .tar.gz, or what?
[01:26] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, thats the thing i just opened the folder well i used nautilus to see it because it came as a zip and was only like 160+ mb
[01:26] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, but it seems to be all patches and i am looking for the kernel = which should be deb files correct?
[01:26] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, it might be best to ask the group for detailed instructions, after all they made it.
[01:27] <oem_> hello
[01:27] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, yeah i will post a question, my principal thing i want to work is just the light sensor module so that i gain the ability to dim the brightness because as it stands the brightness is turned to max level
[01:28] <jk^> lordcirth, yes
[01:28] <lordcirth> oem_, welcome
[01:28] <jk^> the app is not installed
[01:29] <lordcirth> jk^, oh ok.  Well then 'sudo apt install htop'
[01:29] <jk^> ok
[01:29] <jk^> i do it by gui
[01:29] <jk^> i prefer gui
[01:29] <jk^> i don't like command line operation
[01:29] <jk^> however now it's open
[01:29] <lordcirth> jk^, it's harder for me to help you in a non-English GUI
[01:29] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, okay so here is the patches txt file i found in it at the end it gives a little mini instruction. here it is: https://pastebin.com/TRh3PuFW
[01:30] <jk^> are there a method to create a report, i don't understand anything in htop
[01:30] <jk^> to tecnical info
[01:30] <jk^> too tecnical info
[01:30] <lordcirth> jk^, ignore the list, just look at the top, there are usage bars for CPU and RAM.
[01:30] <kenrin> If you want reports use sar,  but that is even more technical
[01:31] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, if i am understanding correctly i think i am suppose to first get kernel 4.12 from kernel.org then add the patches to it manually? or am i misunderstanding it?
[01:31] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, for the last patch, liquorix, it says that, but not the rest, seemingly.  I suppose default to Ubuntu's kernel?
[01:33] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, okay because right now i am currently in kernel 4.13 which is what my ubuntu 16.04 is using as i am talking with you. so if i understand correct i should get kernel 4.12 then get liquorix then run the patches?
[01:33] <jk^> lordcirth, i'm looking at the top, but i don't understand anything i see
[01:33] <lordcirth> jk^, ok, then try the graphical ones.
[01:34] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, Liquorix doesn't seem related to backlighting?
[01:34] <jk^> what have i to see at the top?
[01:34] <jk^> to tell y?
[01:34] <jk^> to report you?
[01:34] <lordcirth> jk^, whether it's your CPU or RAM that is overloaded
[01:35] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, oh okay. well then is it possible if i have the capella driver for the backlighting can i just add it to the 4.13 kernel right now? or does it not work that way?
[01:35] <lordcirth> jk^, there are also other Ubuntu support channels for other languages, though they have less people.
[01:36] <jk^> Task: 65, 0 thr; 2 running; Load average 1,16 1,75 2,09 (with different colors) uptime 00:42:41
[01:36] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, hopefully that works.  This may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[01:36] <jk^> lordcirth,
[01:37] <lordcirth> jk^, how many cores does your CPU have?
[01:37] <jk^> i don't know lordcirth
[01:37] <jk^> but it's already much if it has one core, i guess :)
[01:38] <jk^> CPU
[01:38] <jk^> 			Intel Celeron M 360
[01:38] <jk^> 			Tecnologia Dothan 90nm
[01:38] <jk^> this is from a report of a specifications tool
[01:38] <Dagronmaster> grep 'core id' /proc/cpuinfo | sort | uniq -d
[01:38] <Dagronmaster> ^jk^
[01:38] <kenrin> Yeah that is 1 core
[01:39] <lordcirth> jk^, yeah, 1 core, that's the problem.  Do you have a browser open?  Browsers are often the biggest thing.  You could try a lighter one
[01:39] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, okay in the modifying the configuration step, is that where i would have to add the patches?
[01:39] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, yes
[01:40] <jk^> my opened app are: Software center, hexchat, htop, libre office writer, 2 mousepad app, chromium with facebook and youtube, and 2 file manager windows
[01:40] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, so then in terms of the patches like for example the one with the light sensor i would just have to have it giving execution properties and put it in the script folder?
[01:41] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, is it a .patch file?  If so you'll need to use the patch tool
[01:42] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, well i have the patch but the problem is i don't know where the driver goes? like when i tell it to modprobe the driver, it comes up, not found. so i have the driver downloaded and the patch already in the script folder
[01:42] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, where would i need to put the driver file in the filesystem to then have modprobe recognize it
[01:45] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modulename.ko
[01:45] <lordcirth> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/225845/how-do-i-configure-modprobe-to-find-my-module
[01:46] <jk^> lordcirth, i told you my opened app
[01:46] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.11/process/applying-patches.html
[01:47] <lordcirth> jk^, it's a low-end laptop CPU from 2004.  It's going to be slow.  Using a lighter browser may help.
[01:48] <jk^> then the problem isn't xubuntu?
[01:48] <jk^> lordcirth,
[01:48] <lordcirth> jk^, no, it isn't Xubuntu's fault.  It's a really slow computer.
[01:48] <jk^> :((((((((
[01:49] <lordcirth> Try installing Seamonkey instead of Firefox, maybe?
[01:49] <jk^> i make that question, because i guess and i hope with lubuntu the operating system might be faster :\
[01:49] <jk^> lordcirth,
[01:49] <jk^> i'm using chromium
[01:49] <lordcirth> jk^, Lubuntu might be slightly faster.
[01:49] <kenrin> lxde is only slightly faster,  I got a laptop from 2007 running it
[01:50] <lordcirth> jk^, Don't use chromium, try Seamonkey or  Midori
[01:51] <jk^> i guess i have to try lubuntu even because in time i'll install many and many app... if i do this on xubuntu it will be slower sooner then lubuntu which is lighter
[01:51] <jk^> excuse for my english i hope u understand
[01:51] <lordcirth> jk^, it's worth trying
[01:52] <jk^> ok, but i'm falled in love with xubuntu :-o
[01:52] <jk^> :(
[02:17] <noneal> Help
[02:17] <noneal> I need help
[02:17]  * XXCoder calls fire dept and police dept
[02:17] <lordcirth> noneal, help with what?
[02:17] <Cornibus> Call 911
[02:17] <noneal> https://pastebin.com/uxqkMbdA
[02:18] <noneal> Im getting those errors
[02:18] <lordcirth> noneal, you filled your hard drive.  Don't do that
[02:18] <noneal> No I didnt
[02:18] <lordcirth> failed to write (No space left on device)
[02:19] <lordcirth> noneal, please pastebin the output of 'df -h'
[02:19] <lordcirth> Judging from the number of old kernels, I bet you filled a separate /boot partition
[02:19] <Cornibus> Line 151
[02:20] <noneal> https://pastebin.com/5kpufKE8
[02:20] <lordcirth>  /dev/sda2                    473M  471M     0 100% /boot
[02:20] <lordcirth> Yep
[02:20] <noneal> How do I fix that?
[02:20] <lordcirth> 'sudo apt-get autoremove' will hopefully work
[02:21] <Bashing-om> jk^: Nother thought. if ya handy - install from minimal and install the xfce4 DE . Will be fastest .
[02:21] <lordcirth> That's what that big block of text has been telling you to do.
[02:22] <noneal> Didnt do anything
[02:22] <lordcirth> noneal, did it print an error?
[02:22] <noneal> https://pastebin.com/ihMgkGWH
[02:23] <lordcirth> noneal, right, so you need to fix before you can autoremove, but you can't fix without space. Fun
[02:24] <lordcirth> https://askubuntu.com/questions/910231/boot-is-100-full-apt-get-purge-linux-image-x-x-x-x-generic-wont-work#910240
[02:25] <lordcirth> This is one of the reasons I don't use a separate /boot
[02:25] <jk^> Bashing-om, excuse me, i don't understand :\
[02:26] <jk^> what is "install from minimal and install the xfce4 DE?
[02:26] <jk^> "
[02:28] <lordcirth> jk^, If you don't know, don't worry about it
[02:29] <jk^> just to know what is it
[02:29] <jk^> !driver
[02:29] <jk^> !drivers
[02:29] <Bashing-om> !minimal | jk^
[02:29] <lordcirth> jk^, you can install Ubuntu from the 'minimal' CD that comes without a desktop or anything, then install the Xubuntu desktop.  It would take less space, though I'm not sure it would be much faster.
[02:31] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: I have done both the desktop xubuntu and minimal install on same hardware . the minimal is much faster .
[02:31] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, what services does it not start?
[02:32] <jk^> link talking about drivers?
[02:32] <jk^> !drivers
[02:33] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Not much :) .. just networking, and what it takes to activate the GUI. All else you have to add to the install - say even to anacron .
[02:33] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, sorry was talking with my family. okay so i just have to put the driver = module in lib/modules and then run: uname -r and the path to the module with its name and .ko at the end
[02:34] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, for the module, yes, but I think you need the kernel patch as well?
[02:35] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, i will show you what i have which is the patch? i don't think i have the kernel, i just have the patch well i have the script and i have a patch that i think is the module. here it is: https://pastebin.com/qGCw2SSG
[02:36] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, you should probably get someone else to help with that, I've never needed to patch a kernel myself
[02:38] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, yeah. so its pretty complicated? because i feel like all i have to do is just compile it and then after that just put the patch where it needs to go in the script folder then thats it, b/c that is the module in that last paste bin? or is it a patch? b/c it has instructions that say how to compile
[02:38] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, I don't think it's hugely complicated, it's just something that most people never need to do
[02:39] <lordcirth> 'man patch' may be useful
[02:40] <mutantturkey> sometimes i get a hang at "loading initial ramdisk" in grub
[02:40] <mutantturkey> any way to fix it?
[02:40] <dekatch> can i rename files without touching the .ext? like just leave the extension as is? is there some command line option?
[02:40] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, check this: so if i run this patch in terminal with the patch file for the driver it will do the rest: https://linux.die.net/man/1/patch
[02:41] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, that is the idea, yes.  You just have to get the right source and be in the right directory.
[02:42] <lordcirth> mutantturkey, when booted up, install 'smartmontools' and run 'smartctl -a' to check for hard drive problems.
[02:43] <dax>  /cs op #ubuntu
[02:44] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, okay here is something from the google group from the question i asked them and they give a way to solve it but with no instructional, check it here: https://pastebin.com/FYQvjpZR
[02:45] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, which laptop do you have, again?
[02:46] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, so in it they say its probably with wrong module load order or just patching the kernel with the correct patch, so i am thinking i have two options one is to try to load the module correcty and the other is to just patch the kernel.
[02:46] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, i have an asus t100ta its one of those baytrail 2 in 1 tablet pc's
[02:47] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, guy says "I'm working on it." Was that recently?  If so, honestly I'd just wait and see if he posts something
[02:47] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, that was 6 weeks ago
[02:48] <lordcirth> You could post and ask about it nicely
[02:50] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, yeah i am posting right now as we speak
[02:55] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, so i posted the question and will see what they say. thanks bro you where a huge help. i kind of want to try to do it on my own but this is way out of my league currently so on one hand i feel i should wait and then on the other hand i think i should give it a go my self
[02:56] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, no problem, good luck!
[03:04] <dekatch>  could somebody with bash exp help me on this one? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14509806/command-line-find-first-file-in-a-directory/14510051
[03:05] <dekatch> basically what it does is: find first file in a directory and rename it to the directory name and move it up one level.
[03:05] <user454> how recovery mtf?
[03:06] <user454> alguno habla español?
[03:06] <dekatch> so apperently he got his command working with help from there. but i cant get my head around all these
[03:06] <user454> who speak spanish?
[03:06] <dekatch> user454,
[03:06] <user454> hello
[03:07] <dekatch> i think there is even a spanish channel.
[03:07] <mutantturkey> is there anyway to get 4.4 kernel on the current version of ubuntu?
[03:07] <user454> they sleps in espain
[03:07] <user454> sleep
[03:08] <Doberman_Hunter> нехрена вас здесь
[03:08] <implite_> ubottu Spanish | user454
[03:08] <user454> they gointo to sleep
[03:09] <user454> they are sleeping
[03:09] <user454> harry up!
[03:10] <user454> im want to repair mtf
[03:12] <user454> i think going to sleep
[03:12] <implite_> What is mtf?
[03:13] <user454> MFT, sorry
[03:19] <implite_> user454 did you try ntfsfix
[03:19] <implite_> ?
[03:19] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, okay bro i am about to add the 4.12 kernel :-) i know i am crazy but without risk, one can't get to the top in life so i will add the kernel then try to run the patches and see for kernel 4.12
[03:26] <user454> implite_ speak spanish?
[03:31] <videocall> i am considering an Acer Aspire E5-576G-5762 laptop as my new years purchase, any compatibility issues with GNU/Linux i should be aware of?
[03:32] <user454> implite_ im using chkdsk  U: /f
[03:33] <lordcirth> videocall, other acer aspire models have had problems with BIOS, I think: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/386009/acer-aspire-e5-573g-you-can-not-install-any-one-linux-distribution-the-problem-bios-1-25
[03:35] <wildlander> Isn't quite rare to have a Firefox update in ubuntu on Christmas ?
[03:42] <user5> братан
[03:42] <user5> ауе
[03:43] <user5> как жизь?
[03:44] <lordcirth> !ru | user5
[03:46] <jk^> my archive manager give error
[03:46] <jk^> "There's a problem to open archive - Fatal error"
[03:50] <videocall> lordcirth, that is a different model
[03:51] <Neo2> I've installed that ubuntu and it's broken
[03:51] <Neo2> not exist ubuntu software center and ubuntu upgrade gets error
[03:52] <Neo2> or this 'sudo get-apt install -f'
[03:52] <Neo2> gnome ubuntu better don't install, broken all
[03:52] <Neo2> worse than unity even
[03:53] <Neo2> it's inpossible to install ubuntu  and there all works
[03:54] <winsoff> Does ubuntu's livecd include gparted, clonezilla, and ntfs-3g?
[03:55] <eraserpencil> https://pastebin.com/NaKAr7Bd
[03:59] <eraserpencil> I installed eggdeps as the output suggested, but am met with a permissions error. executable permissions have been set yet I cant fix the error
[03:59] <jk^> i have a problem with "Archive manager"
[04:10] <noneal> That website helped me fix the low space in /boot
[04:11] <TubbyNinja> jk^, What kind of problem?
[04:13] <jk^> "It happens an error during loading archive - Fatal error"
[04:16] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, hey so i added the kernel 4.12, check it here: https://pastebin.com/muSSSuam
[04:16] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, and did it work?
[04:16] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, using that information in the pastebin it was added and now i will restart and take the big step to see if i could just run the patch.
[04:16] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, well i haven't tried to restart and select 4.12 kernel yet
[04:17] <lordcirth> noneal, glad to hear it.  In future, when prompted to autoremove, you should generally do it
[04:21] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, so i just booted into 4.12 generic and my sound isn't working
[04:22] <lordcirth> Well, I guess there are reasons that Canonical customizes their kernels
[04:24] <jk^> TubbyNinja, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ezzAz0mCP0C_DYldM23nY59MlzgqhgtV
[04:24] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dEUp2r1yoNFog-pfVGTfK6pF4EJXTP5K
[04:25] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, now the real question is to see if i can get the patches to work which would bring everything and more back to normal including sound
[04:31] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, i feel like i needed to add 4.12 rc2 instead?
[04:32] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, why?  That's older
[04:33] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, wait so i have 4.12 generic right now is = stable and the rc2 is considered older
[04:33] <EldonMcGuinness> Wishes gnome worked better with my BT Headphones :/
[04:33] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, yes.  rc2 means release candidate 2, ie, the second attempt at making a stable one.
[04:34] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, so that means in the 4.12 stable it should be uploaded the patches already to the kernel then?
[04:34] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, assuming those patches didn't break things
[04:41] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, it says patches must be in the same location as the kernel? will all of the kernels be located in etc/kernel? or no
[05:00] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, i got audio working again so thats good
[05:11] <donavan01> is it possible to install ubuntu on a SD card ... my laptop doesnt recognize sd cards as boot devices I wasnt sure if there was some way to put the boot info on my main hard disc and have it point to my SD card
[05:12] <ghostnik11> can anyone get me to run a patch in kernel 4.12, i keep getting this error when i run patch -pl command: patch: **** strip count l is not a number
[05:13] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, -p is supposed to have a number right after it
[05:13] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, yeah i put -p1
[05:13] <lordcirth> your paste said l, L, not 1
[05:14] <lordcirth> donavan01, yes, that should be possible, manual partitioning should let you do that in the installer
[05:14] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, your a genius
[05:15] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, its asking me now: file to patch:?
[05:16] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, i will do a pastebin, here it is: https://pastebin.com/tbxYXWET
[05:17] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, so may i wasnt suppose to erase the first few lines in the patch that made it look like it came from someone's email?
[05:17] <donavan01> lordcirth ... thanks I have 2 internal SD slots(pci-e card) and one external(built it) any idea which would be faster or do you think it would matter
[05:18] <lordcirth> donavan01, pci-e should be faster, I'd think
[05:18] <lordcirth> the card should be the limit, though
[05:18] <lordcirth> ghostnik11, worth a try
[05:22] <jk^> hi
[05:22] <jk^> same problem with "archive manager" :\ i need to open an archive because in it i have some important information :\
[05:23] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, yeah that didn't work either. changing it back. i get the same error
[05:24] <lordcirth> jk^, try opening it from the command line to get better error messages
[05:26] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, yeah i was just resarching that error and someone on askubuntu was basically saying that i would need to ask the person who created the patch, wow didn't know it would be this difficult
[05:26] <jk^> lordcirth, how to open it from command line?
[05:26] <lordcirth> jk^, what kind of archive is it?
[05:26] <jk^> .rar
[05:27] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ezzAz0mCP0C_DYldM23nY59MlzgqhgtV
[05:27] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dEUp2r1yoNFog-pfVGTfK6pF4EJXTP5K
[05:28] <jk^> lordcirth,
[05:31] <lordcirth> jk^, https://www.wikihow.com/Unrar-Files-in-Linux
[05:58] <jk^> lordcirth, is it a command line only app?
[05:59] <jk^> i'm not able to do that :-o
[06:05] <rypervenche> jk^: How come?
[06:19] <NinemmRx> whats up Ubuntu
[06:19] <NinemmRx> love  you all
[06:19] <strive> Aww.
[06:29] <jk^> rypervenche,
[06:29] <jk^> i'm not expert on pc
[06:29] <mister9> bazhang is a faggot
[06:29] <jk^> i'm not able to make working a command line only app
[06:31] <mister9> el you are a cunt face
[06:31] <el> must you do that here?
[06:32] <rypervenche> Just ignore, he'll be taken care of soon.
[06:32] <el> rypervenche: yes, i'm the op that was taking care of him.
[06:32] <rypervenche> Ah, I have leaves filtered. Cool cool.
[06:37] <mister9> dax: are you a fag?
[06:49] <Dexx1_> I need help guys. All of my disks (including my external USB drive) is giving me read-only disk errors --- I tried using fsck without much luck :(
[06:52] <ttvtech> #list
[06:57] <Dexx1_> Halp. When I plug in my USB drive, I cannot copy anything to it. It says "read only" and aborts. I tried to run FSCK and also get "error: device is read only". Rebooted, now the entire system (including USB) gives "read only errors" :( -- Please halp me fix this, someone.
[07:01] <jk^> which is the best app to manage archive in xubuntu? I try to use "Archive Manager" in Xubuntu which is installed by default byt it doesn't work :|
[07:01] <jk^>  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dEUp2r1yoNFog-pfVGTfK6pF4EJXTP5K/view?usp=sharing
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ezzAz0mCP0C_DYldM23nY59MlzgqhgtV/view?usp=sharing
[07:02] <Dexx1_> This is my dmesg output if anyone finds it helpful: https://pastebin.com/raw/AjVzhYza
[07:08] <tsarompy> jk try ark
[07:09] <jk^> gui?
[07:10] <jk^> tsarompy,
[07:34] <Mr_Cyclops> Hi, Everytime I am on a VPN, HexChat wouldn't connect, I am using Ubuntu Mate 16.04 and 17.10
[07:34] <Mr_Cyclops> !hexchat
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: errors?
[07:35] <Mr_Cyclops> umm, let me grab that for you, hold on, back in a min
[07:38] <Mr_Cyclops> lotuspsychje, there you go .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/26276698/
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[07:42] <Mr_Cyclops> k
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: think sasl method might dont like vpn
 "It happens an error during the archive loading - "Fatal error"
 in the other image is the same
 messages
 except for "UTF-8 error"
 flocculant, i'm trying also to search for "ark" or "roller" in the Software's searchbox, but it doesn't appears anything, i need to open those archive, in them there are many important information i can't lose :( pls help me
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Cyclops: perhaps ask that in #freenode with that error?
[07:43] <Mr_Cyclops> kk
[07:43] <jk^> the first error which appears is from the default archive manager in Xubuntu
[07:44] <jk^> 2 equal messages, but one tells "Fatal error" and the other one "UTF-8 error"
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !paste | jk^
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> jk^: dont paste random text here mate
[08:34] <vadi> How can I fix Ubuntu thinking that the function key is always pressed down? I can't use the normal F keys because all of the alternative keyboard actions happen instead
[08:35] <imadu> hi
[08:35] <imadu> Hi! all
[08:35] <alkisg> vadi: Fn keys are usually hardware, they're not managed by the OS
[08:36] <alkisg> Does it work properly e.g. in Windows or in the BIOS?
[08:36] <vadi> I don't use Windows
[08:36] <alkisg> Answer the second part then
[08:36] <alkisg> About bios
[08:37] <vadi> I don't think I can use those keys in the BIOS to begin with
[08:37] <alkisg> Sure, "F10 = save, F12=netboot " etc
[08:37] <alkisg> There are many Fxx combinations valid in BIOS
[08:37] <vadi> I'll have a look.
[08:38] <dax> vadi: there's probably an option in your firmware to change the default behavior, i know my Lenovo and HP laptops both have that
[08:38] <dax> but yeah, it's not something Ubuntu handles, it's down lower than that :)
[08:44] <vadi> I can't try the F keys in the bios as it's not an old-school one but a modern graphical one
[08:45] <vadi> This is on a Dell Latitude E7470 - and the Fn keys used to work fine before, this regression happened sometime recently even though I am still on the same kernel
[08:53] <b3h3m0th> I am unable to boot into Windows after installing Ubuntu. I am stuck in a blank pink screen after I select Windows from GRUB.
[09:07] <b3h3m0th> ping
[09:09] <blueskan> exit
[09:11] <alkisg> vadi: UEFI has Fxx shortcuts as well, if you enter it you'll see many. If it doesn't work there either, it's a hardware problem.
[09:11] <b3h3m0th> I am unable to boot into Windows after installing Ubuntu. I am stuck in a blank pink screen after I select Windows from GRUB.
[09:11] <laceylaney> HI Guys.... Just installed openbox with obmenu, but obmenu will not launch. Whenever I try to run it from a terminal I get "Error: Couldn't create default menu file!" Anyone know why I cannot launch it ??
[09:11] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: pink screen?
[09:11] <vadi> alkisg: there were no shortcuts listed, there was just the mouse and buttons
[09:11] <b3h3m0th> yea the GRUB screen's color
[09:12] <b3h3m0th> Ubuntu's color
[09:12] <alkisg> vadi: read the man page or google it or use a live cd. If you make sure that it works *anywhere* else, then we can start thinking it may be an OS issue
[09:12] <alkisg> *the UEFI documentation, your manual
[09:13] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: uncomment #GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub, and run update-grub, and reboot. This will avoid the pink color, so that you can read error messages
[09:13] <alkisg> (assuming that now you don't see error messages, that is)
[09:14] <b3h3m0th> I had commented GRUB_GFXpayload_linux=None and set  GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
[09:14] <b3h3m0th> GRUB_TERMINAL is also required?
[09:15] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: GRUB_TERMINAL uses the black/white text mode, so that you can report error messages that may be hidden in the pink mode
[09:15] <alkisg> vadi: from your manual: when the Dell logo appears, you can: • Access System Setup by pressing F2 key • Bring up the one-time boot menu by pressing F12 key
[09:16] <alkisg> There are many shortcuts listed in your UEFI firmware
[09:16] <alkisg> F1 Displays the System Setup help file.
[09:16] <alkisg> Unobtrusive Mode This option, when enabled, pressing Fn+F7 turns off all light and sound emissions in the system. To resume normal operation, press Fn+F7 again. This option is disabled by default.
[09:18] <alkisg> vadi: and there are lots of options to configure the Fn key, e.g. Fn Key Emulation Allows you to set the option where the Scroll Lock key is used to simulate the Fn key feature. Enable Fn Key Emulation (default)
[09:18] <alkisg> And Fn Lock Options right below that
[09:19] <b3h3m0th> alkisg:  what does the values None/<gpu name>text mean for the GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX?
[09:20] <b3h3m0th> *None/<gpuname>/text
[09:21] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: I don't have any such entry, are you using some boot theme?
[09:21] <alkisg> Anyway,you don't need to edit anything else there
[09:21] <alkisg> Just the GRUB_TERMINAL line
[09:22] <b3h3m0th> aight cool
[09:22] <b3h3m0th> let me see
[09:23] <b3h3m0th> I should do update-grub right?
[09:23] <b3h3m0th> or undate-grub2?
[09:23] <b3h3m0th> *up
[09:26] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: sudo update-grub
[09:27] <b3h3m0th> alkisg:  something alarming came up in place of the pink screen
[09:28] <alkisg> What's the message then?
[09:28] <alkisg> That's what we wanted to see
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> Top left of screen: Setting partition type to 0x7
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> Center of screen line1: BootSector Write !!
[09:28] <b3h3m0th> Center of screen line2: VIRUS: Continue (Y/N)? <cursor prompt>
[09:29] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: well, that doesn't sound comforting :D Boot into ubuntu, and upload the output of sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:30] <alkisg> And, the contents of your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:33] <b3h3m0th> is this a malware?
[09:33] <b3h3m0th> Where does the text "VIRUS" come from?
[09:34] <b3h3m0th> When I hit the "N", it booted to windows
[09:34] <alkisg> It's not part of ubuntu :)
[09:34] <alkisg> Try googling or asking in #windows
[09:44] <mato_> @search thin red line
[09:44] <b3h3m0th> alkisg:  why not?!
[09:44] <b3h3m0th> I said it booted to windows because I selected windows from GRUB before this all happened
[09:45] <b3h3m0th> If I select ubuntu, it shows the VIRUS screen again and boots to Ubuntu upon hitting N
[09:54] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: in the old days, there was a bios setting to "enable antivirus protection" meaning it would watch on writes on sector 0
[09:54] <alkisg> Check if your BIOS has such a setting, and if yes, turn it off
[09:55] <b3h3m0th> I remember enabling bootsector virus protection on my BIOS
[09:55] <alkisg> Right, that's the one
[09:55] <alkisg> Not an ubuntu issue, but a bios issue there
[09:55] <b3h3m0th> issue?
[09:55] <b3h3m0th> it's a feature right? A security feature!
[09:55] <b3h3m0th> Why is Ubuntu tripping that ?
[09:56] <b3h3m0th> I mean why does Ubuntu have to behave with some bootsector virus signature?
[09:56] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: it was a security feature back in 1990 when viruses wrote themselves to the boot sector
[09:57] <alkisg> ...not anymore :)
[09:57] <alkisg> Ask in #grub for details on why writing to mbr is needed
[09:57] <b3h3m0th> It's abnormal for something legitimate to write to MBR apart from some installation phase?
[10:09] <neure> hi
[10:09] <neure> what should i do when sudo apt remove is stuck?
[10:10] <gordonjcp> neure: stuck in what sense?
[10:13] <neure> stuck as in "Progress: [ 50%]" and not making progress
[10:14] <neure> I killed apt and dpkg once
[10:15] <neure> and tried again but same result
[10:16] <neure> ps shows things like /usr/sbin/groupdel, /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 62 --force-depends --remove, /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/delgroup --quiet --system --only-if-empty, etc there but not making progress
[10:23] <neure> apparently delgroup --system --only-if-empty hangs
[10:25] <alkisg> (11:57:46 πμ) b3h3m0th: It's abnormal for something legitimate to write to MBR apart from some installation phase? ==> it depends; some OSes require the "boot flag" so it may be necessary for dual booting; although recent versions of windows shouldn't require that
[10:25] <alkisg> (changing it; they need it but ubuntu doesn't, so there's no need to constantly write to it)
[10:25] <alkisg> Nowadays uefi/gpt is used, so no mbr code there anyway
[10:26] <b3h3m0th> I see
[10:26] <b3h3m0th> I don't have UEFI support on my board though
[10:26] <alkisg> b3h3m0th: just disable that ancient bios option, there's no need for it
[10:26] <alkisg> "load setup defaults" doesn't use it anyway
[10:26] <b3h3m0th> Okay
[10:26] <alkisg> It was obsolete 20 years ago
[10:29] <gordonjcp> neure: can you work out what group it's trying to delete?
[10:29] <neure> it was group related to the package i was trying to remove
[10:29] <gordonjcp> okay
[10:29] <neure> i ended up killing the delgroup
[10:31] <gordonjcp> neure: maybe the group isn't empty, are you still part of that group?
[10:33] <geirha> it was probably waiting for a lock
[10:33] <neure> "If the option --only-if-empty is given, the group won't be removed if it has any members left" That doesnt sound like the command should simply block..
[10:34] <gordonjcp> neure: right, but it may be the script wrapping it that has blocked?
[10:34] <gordonjcp> I'm guessing here
[10:34] <neure> nope i tried to call it standalone from command line
[10:34] <gordonjcp> and it blocks?
[10:34] <neure> yup
[10:35] <neure> although i think i figured out why
[10:35] <neure> active directory integration on the machine might affect operations on groups
[10:35] <gordonjcp> oh
[10:35] <gordonjcp> hahaha, GLWT
[10:36] <neure> time compgen -g reported that it took 45 seconds
[10:37] <neure> so "stuck" could have been just "slow"
[10:37] <gordonjcp> could be
[10:39] <geirha> A huge amount of groups then?
[10:39] <gordonjcp> geirha: that are all empty and non-system :-)
[10:40] <geirha> ah wait, it's slow because it has to contact AD
[10:40] <neure> over 1300 groups yes
[10:41] <gordonjcp> neure: and since you're using AD, over a network
[10:41] <gordonjcp> and potentially with a very slow response, since AD doesn't seem that quick
[10:41] <geirha> that's not a lot
[10:49] <luxio> I love that `l` is aliased to `ls`
[10:49] <luxio> is that by default or is it just me not remembering what I did?
[10:49] <luxio> Because if it's by default, it's a nice touch.
[10:50] <geirha> default, I believe. Look in /etc/skel/.bashrc
[10:54] <geirha> When a new user is created, the content of /etc/skel is copied to its new homedir, so unless you've changed anything under /etc/skel, that should be the defaults
[11:02] <b3h3m0th> How to check if it is my network adapter that is slowing down my internet connection?
[11:03] <b3h3m0th> oops sorry wrong channel
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: your on ubuntu?
[11:08] <b3h3m0th> yes
[11:08] <b3h3m0th> I have all three realms, Ubuntu, OSX, WIndows
[11:08] <b3h3m0th> up and running from the same router
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: we can only support you for the ubuntu part, so is it slowing down on ubuntu on all Os?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> *or
[11:12] <b3h3m0th> On Ubuntu (and windows but that doesnt matte)
[11:12] <b3h3m0th> On OSX it's 20 times faster
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: wich ubuntu version and chipset/driver?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> b3h3m0th: hastebin.com sudo lshw -C network
[11:18] <gambl0re> is there a linux mint channel
[11:18] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: I guess you should check what speed the interface is actually seeing
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> !mint | gambl0re yes
[11:19] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: ethtool will tell you that
[11:45] <b3h3m0th> gordonjcp:  lshw says RTL8191/2/6E
[11:45] <b3h3m0th> AIDA's hw monitor tools said: "x1 Realtek RTL8139/810x Fast ethernet adapter"
[11:50] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: okay but that only says what kind of chip it is
[11:50] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: what does ethtool say?
[11:51] <b3h3m0th> what should I look for?
[11:51] <b3h3m0th> I mean what params?
[11:51] <gordonjcp> "Speed" :-)
[11:51] <gordonjcp> also maybe Duplex
[11:52] <gordonjcp> gordonjcp@pasotti:~$ ethtool enp2s0 | grep Speed
[11:52] <gordonjcp> 	Speed: 1000Mb/s
[11:53] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: oh hold on, RTL8191 is a wifi card
[11:53] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: I have no idea what that would say or do
[11:53] <gordonjcp> b3h3m0th: as far as speeds go, all bets are off for wifi, you get what you get
[11:58] <b3h3m0th> I don't have a wifi card :o
[11:58] <meiga> pchoo: hola!
[12:00] <b3h3m0th> gordonjcp:  Speed: 200Mb/s
[12:00] <b3h3m0th> not a wifi card btw. :/
[12:49] <makun> hello
[12:50] <makun> my english is poor
[12:50] <makun> and you
[12:50] <DrGrov> Hello, running Kubuntu 16.04 but have a general USB 3.X question.
[12:51] <DrGrov> Has anyone seen any minor/major effect of transfer speeds, both read and write, on 16.04 and USB 3.X?
[12:54] <tayranosaurus> hello
[12:55] <makun> every one
[12:56] <makun> chat with us
[12:59] <lotuspsychje_> !chat | makun
[13:00] <makun> hello
[13:00] <makun> every one
[13:00] <dan01> My mom has a old HP laptop that came with Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (SLED11). And I was fascinated by the fact that it has a GRUB option of System Restore, sort of like Windows 10 'reset. How hard is it to make this in Ubuntu?
[13:00] <dan01> makun: hi
[13:01] <lotuspsychje_> !recovery | dan01
[13:02] <dan01> lotuspsychje_ thanks!
[13:02] <makun> where are you from
[13:02] <lotuspsychje_> makun: only ubuntu support questions here
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> dan01: another way, is to repair an ubuntu with a liveusb, where you can preserve your /home data
[13:03] <makun> byebye
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> !info snapper | dan01 or this
[13:10] <dan01> lotuspsychje: Is that not only for btrfs?
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> dan01: yeah
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> !info backintime-qt4 | dan01 this perhaps
[13:30] <Ascavasaion> I have a computers running 8 x 4TB SCSI drives in RAID... so 16TB.  The motherboard has a 1Gb built in Etherne.  I popped another 1Gb PCIe NIC
[13:30] <Ascavasaion> Sorry
[13:35] <Ascavasaion> I have a computers running 8 x 4TB SCSI drives in RAID... so 16TB.  The motherboard has a 1Gb built in NIC.  I popped another 1Gb PCIe NIC into it.  I booted a Live USB of Ubuntu 16.04.3 and set both NICs up.  Under network icon top right it shows both have their own given static IPs, and where I typed in subnet <IP_ADDRESS> it changed it to 24.  I can ping, but was wondering if it automatically be a 2Gb (2 x 1Gb NIC) connection or if I need to
[13:35] <Ascavasaion> somehow connect them?  Never done this before.
[13:36] <Neo3> I've installed ubuntu gnome, works better than ubuntu unity without errors for a while
[13:37] <Neo3> there was error with sudo apt-get upgrade, I did sudo apt-get clean and then reinstall and everything reinstalled normally
[13:38] <Neo3> sudo apt-get clean This command removes last load packages?
[13:38] <Neo3> and software senter there exists, just it not see from all programs, should fill out search fild
[13:39] <linuxthefish> hi, is there a ffmpeg package? i'm sure there used to be one!
[13:40] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, hey i think i might have finally found something that can help me, or i might just be going crazy trying to solve the brightness issue of this device. with this i might be able to even unlock more features, check it here: https://github.com/Asus-T100/kernel/wiki/Compiling-the-kernel-for-T100TAF
[13:40] <Neo3> I've checked how many memory it takes for a while and it 3GB and free common disk 25Gb I'd allocated 30, probably 5Gb is swap
[13:40] <Neo3> so little memory it takes
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:48] <dan01> BluesKaj: Hi!
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> !info ffmpeg | linuxthefish
[13:49] <BluesKaj> hi dan01
[13:50] <dan01> I have a 1366 X 768 LCD laptop monitor 16:9, it it normal for Gnome to look like this?: https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkWFsvdhoP4MuQBhfBU_1EsVihRx
[13:50] <dan01> I find the UI is to big
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> dan01: looks good to me
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> dan01: wich ubuntu are you on?
[13:53] <dan01> lotuspsychje: One Windows I can see more line on Netbeans without scrolling that I can on Linux
[13:53] <dan01> lotuspsychje: That's a Fedora system to be honest, but it looks the same on 17.10
[13:55] <dan01> Would you mind sharing  a screenshot of your desktop? :)
[13:55] <dan01> If you are on gnome
[13:55] <linuxthefish> lotuspsychje but it gives "Package ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package." on ubuntu 14.04
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> dan01: what says your xrandr
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !info ffmpeg trusty
[13:56] <BluesKaj> hmm, bacports?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> !backports
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> dan01: anything special as program you want to see open?
[13:57] <dan01> lotuspsychje: If you have a IDE or TextEditor and a file with lots of lines, that would be just great
[13:58] <ghostnik11> lordcirth, hey what are your thoughts about using someone's prepatched kernel? is it something that would put me at risk?
[13:58] <Olanzapin> how do i enable gnome-desktop in ubuntu 17.10 minimal installation?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> linuxthefish, here are some ffmpeg options https://askubuntu.com/questions/691109/how-do-i-install-ffmpeg-and-codecs
[14:01] <IhrFussel> I have a question that's not directly related to Ubuntu but I cannot find a better channel to ask: I'm on a VPS that runs Ubuntu 16.04 ... now sometimes the game server I run on it lags horribly (30-60 secs) but I can still use the terminal while that happens...does that point rather to a CPU or I/O bottleneck?
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> dan01: http://oi68.tinypic.com/cn78l.jpg
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> dan01: my netbook res:  1366x768      59.97*+
[14:03] <dan01> lotuspsychje: Thanks!  I'll make some comparisons see if they match
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> dan01: that was syslog
[14:06] <dan01> Oh, and another UI question, am I the only one who thinks a gnome extension to disconnect from a network should be included?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> dan01: if you have a reccomend i would suggest a new !bug with the idea
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> dan01: saying your missing something by default
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> !bug | dan01
[14:09] <imi> hi
[14:10] <imi> there's no python binary in ubuntu
[14:10] <imi> how do I fix this?
[14:11] <e_> imi that's impossible
[14:11] <e_> imi what does 'type python' give back?
[14:12] <imi> e_: bash: type: python: not found -- I have python3 but I don't have python binary
[14:13] <imi> but since I have #!/bin/env python scripts having a python binary (or softlink) would be good
[14:16] <Neo3> hi
[14:16] <Neo3> I've registered?
[14:16] <e_> imi: what about 'ls -l /usr/bin/python' does it give anything?
[14:16] <Ascavasaion> Can one install FreeNAS in Ubuntu?  Or does it have to run on its own on a machine, thus taking using the machine for other purposes out of the equation?
[14:17] <Neo3> I've got problem, How can I mound windows dynamic disk?
[14:19] <Neo3> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1514557133.png
[14:19] <Neo3> It's because I have dynamic disk D?
[14:20] <imi> e_: ls: cannot access '/usr/bin/python': No such file or directory
[14:20] <e_> imi: wow
[14:20] <e_> imi: i think you have to reinstall ubuntu at this point
[14:20] <imi> up to date ubuntu 17.10
[14:20] <imi> I've just installed it less than 2 weeks ago
[14:21] <e_> imi: python is missing! it's integral to ubuntu's functioning
[14:21] <imi> e_: once again, I have python3 binary. What I'm missing is a python binary
[14:21] <e_> more packages are removed for sure too
[14:21] <Neo3> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb2': Invalid argument
[14:21] <Neo3> The device '/dev/sdb2' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. ???
[14:22] <e_> imi: ah, i get you now
[14:22] <Neo3> it's dynamic disk, in windows it's one
[14:22] <e_> imi: for me /usr/bin/python is from the package 'python-minimal' so try sudo apt-get install python-minimal
[14:24] <imi> e_: I'm confused now... according to apt-file python3-minimal should have installed a python binary as well (which is missing at this point despite python3-minimal being installed...)
[14:26] <geirha> My guess is, python scripts that use python might expect it to be python 2.x, so the python3 package probably intentionally don't make a python symlink
[14:27] <imi> e_: I'm even more confused now... after the successful run of `sudo apt install python3-minimal --reinstall` python binary is still missing
[14:27] <Guest37007> im bad feeling
[14:27] <geirha> since scripts written for python2.x are very likely to break with python3
[14:27] <Guest37007> 3
[14:28] <Guest37007> 22
[14:28] <Guest37007> im bad feeling 2
[14:28] <e_> imi: odd, 'dpkg -L python-minimal | grep /usr/bin/python' shows it?
[14:28] <geirha> python-minial != python3-minimal
[14:29] <e_> geirha: yes, he wants the /usr/bin/python that points to python2.7
[14:29] <e_> maybe you just have to create that symlink yourself
[14:29] <imi> e_: it says I don't have python-minimal installed :p
[14:29] <geirha> then he should install python or python-minimal, not python3-minimal
[14:30] <e_> geirha: oh, he misread my post earlier, i didnt notice
[14:30] <e_> imi: install it :D
[14:30] <imi> e_: I've just REinstalled it 5 mins ago
[14:31] <e_> imi python-minimal not python3-minimal
[14:31] <geirha> imi: no, you installed python3-minimal instead of python-minimal
[14:31] <imi> hm
[14:31] <imi> is that safe? if that is a necessity why it isn't preinstalled?
[14:32] <geirha> presumably Ubuntu's core utilities that use python have all been fixed to work with python3
[14:33] <geirha> so python2 is no longer necessary in a default install. It is safe to have python 2 and 3 installed at the same time though
[14:36] <e__> j #linux
[14:36] <imi> ok thank you.
[14:37] <Olanzapin> how do i do. Trying to install grub on a raid0 system but i always get error install ing grub. i'm using 17.10 netinst
[14:40] <payaso> hi im trying to setup dual boot with ubuntu and windows 7. in the Installation Type menu, which partition do i use as bootloader?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | payaso
[14:41] <payaso> also i allocated 25GB for ubuntu, is that enough?
[14:42] <arora> payaso: No
[14:43] <arora> payaso: It depends on what you wish to use it for.. but 25gb is comparativily small!
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Olanzapin: try to catch the error on a hastebin, then come back with your original issue here
[14:44] <Olanzapin> ok will do so
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> arora: ubuntu setup asks 8,5gig to install
[14:44] <payaso> just for learning
[14:45] <arora> payaso: It might be enough, but with more and more pckgs, it might seem short.
[14:46] <payaso> fine
[14:46] <arora> lotuspsych 8.5gigs for the base install, plus ide's are getting heavy these days
[14:46] <arora> payaso: What do you intend to learn?
[14:47] <payaso> how to use ubuntu
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> arora: true
[14:48] <payaso> if i understand correctly, i can install bootloader on windows partition if my bios supports eufi?
[14:49] <arora> payaso: 'Learning to use ubuntu', you can't learn it, you use it every day for the task in hand and find how ubuntu does it.
[14:49] <payaso> if i install bootloader on ubuntu partition then i need to add ubuntu to windows bootloader?
[14:49] <payaso> arora: you're right
[14:49] <etah_Tv> anyone available to try and see if they can help me with a samba question that is killing me
[14:50] <Sn388> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ IRC.SUPERNETS.ORG IS HOSTING THE DDOS AND FLOODING CHALLENGE..PLEASE SEE VAP0R IN #SUPERBOWL FOR DETAILS!! epufojccyu: etah_Tv daynaskully wetterfu1hs effortDee kameloso^ f10 Laif e14 Scheder knoxy multifractal_ indy21 rosattig jubo2 ron__ Es0teric |ifei5g00d gsilvapt xet7 IhrFussel so_ vlada-ch Ascavasaion rouge47 BluesKaj kk
[14:50] <arora> etah_Tv: #samba might help!
[14:51] <etah_Tv> thanks arora
[14:58] <armoxin> hello
[15:19] <anddam> howdy
[15:19] <anddam> I have a laptop with an old Vivid Vervet, likely from edubuntu
[15:21] <anddam> is there a chance to upgrade it to Xenial or Zesty?
[15:21] <anddam> btw is 17.10 codenamed Zesty as well?
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> anddam: better clean install mate
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> anddam: 17.10 is artful
[15:22] <anddam> can I install over and keep just home?
[15:22] <alkisg> Sure
[15:22] <anddam> this is my nephew's laptop, unlikely she ever touched anything system-y
[15:22] <alkisg> Select "something else" in the partition defining step, and keep /
[15:23] <anddam> I'll grab an usb memory
[15:23] <gambl0re> if i install ubuntu's bootloader on top of windows then that means ubuntu will be the one that prompts for the dual boot menu. if i decide to uninstall ubuntu will bootloader default back to windows bootloader?
[15:23] <alkisg> gambl0re: no, you'd need to reinstall the windows boot loader
[15:24] <gambl0re> is it hard?
[15:24] <alkisg> No, you boot from the windows installation cd and select repair boot problems
[15:24] <alkisg> And it does it automatically
[15:24] <gambl0re> i see. thanks
[15:26] <alkisg> np
[15:27] <gambl0re> also im still deciding between ubuntu and mint, is there any real signifcant differences between them besides just the appearance?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: we can only promote ubuntu, as we are in #ubuntu here
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: vanilla ubuntu works like a charm on many systems
[15:29] <gambl0re> ok!
[15:29] <alkisg> gambl0re: mint doesn't follow the debian policy and is frowned upon by almost all ubuntu devs
[15:29] <gambl0re> if i only knew what the debian policy was but thanks
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> !debian | gambl0re
[15:38] <anddam> "The download of Ubuntu 17.10 is currently discouraged due to an issue on certain Lenovo laptops"
[15:39] <anddam> should I get it anyway, if possible, since this is an old ASUS laptop?
[15:41] <hggdh> anddam: you *can*. But better not.
[15:42] <anddam> ok, LTS it is
[15:42] <gordonjcp> I should probably take 17.10 off my Lenovo laptop
[15:43] <anddam> and it's still advised to install from scratch rather than trying the upgrade 15.04 > 16.04?
[15:43] <anddam> s/it's/is it/
[15:45] <hggdh> anddam: you cannot upgrade directly from 15.04 to 16.04. You have to go 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04
[15:46] <hggdh> anddam: so it is probably easier to install 16.04 from scratch
[15:46] <BluesKaj> anddam, yes it is ...my lenovo G500 laptop had no issues whatsoever with 16.04 , nor does it with 17.10/KDE/Plasma
[15:55] <anddam> hggdh: that's what I meant to do but the upgrade fails with several 404 errors
[15:56] <anddam> btw this seems to be an i386 install, how do I check from /proc/cpuinfo if I can install amd64?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> anddam, sudo lshw -C cpu
[16:00] <anddam> ah, bingo
[16:00] <anddam> https://ark.intel.com/products/41498/Intel-Celeron-Processor-900-1M-Cache-2_20-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[16:00] <anddam> BluesKaj: width is 64b
[16:01] <anddam> so amd64 it is
[16:01] <anddam> thanks
[16:02] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:13] <anddam> btw I'm getting 17.10 ;-)
[16:26] <bipul> Hello i am facing issue, I am unable to detect my second monitor. It says "could not get screen information" inside gnome-control-center display
[16:30] <klemax> Hello. Can I upgrade my system from 17.10 to 18.04 LTS?
[16:31] <ikonia> 18.04 LTS doesn't exist yet
[16:31] <ikonia> there is just a very very early development set of packages
[16:31] <klemax> When it does, can I?
[16:31] <ikonia> should be able to
[16:31] <klemax> do-release-upgrade would be enough to do it?
[16:31] <ikonia> should be, but you won't know until the release notes are out
[16:32] <klemax> Okay.
[16:32] <klemax> In fact, I like 17.10 but i need a lts one for long support.
[16:33] <bipul> Any solution for my question?
[16:33] <Groar> I'm having some trobules with cups. Whenever I turn on my computer and my session starts, cups reports an error and printer will no longer work
[16:34] <ikonia> Groar: the error maybe helpful, and details of the printer
[16:34] <electricmilk> Not really sure where else to ask this...I just installed Ubuntu in Windows 10.  Anything wrong with keeping cygwin installed?
[16:34] <ikonia> electricmilk: do what you want
[16:34] <ikonia> it's your box
[16:34] <ikonia> win 10
[16:34] <ikonia> oops
[16:34] <electricmilk> ikonia,  Just wondering if it will cause conflicts
[16:35] <Groar> ikonia: basically says the process has been unexpectedly closed. And Brother DCP 350 C
[16:35] <ikonia> electricmilk: why would it ?
[16:35] <electricmilk> ikonia,  That I don't know
[16:35] <ikonia> Groar: I'd be checking that printers linux support status and what version of cups/driver is needed
[16:35] <ikonia> electricmilk: zero issue with it
[16:35] <electricmilk> ikonia,  Cool thanks
[16:36] <Groar> ikonia: honestly, that's stupid. Worked until few months ago
[16:36] <ikonia> Groar: what's stupid about it
[16:36] <Groar> ikonia: sorry, it's not your fault, was my fault for asking a noob
[16:36] <ikonia> Groar: what's stupid about it
[16:37] <Groar> ikonia: It worked until June or July, and didn't update my Ubuntu version
[16:37] <ikonia> Groar: so there have been no updates applied to your machine since june / july ?
[16:37] <Groar> updates, yeah, but no dist-upgrade
[16:38] <ikonia> Groar: so.....you have no idea if cups or any of it's dependencies have been updated
[16:38] <ikonia> or any of the specific cups driver packages
[16:38] <Groar> that's true
[16:38] <ikonia> Groar: so maybe - it's not stupid is it
[16:38] <ikonia> to check exactly what version of cups and the driver is needed to support that printer
[16:38] <ikonia> and verifying your system
[16:38] <Groar> gonna check it
[16:38] <ikonia> maybe you're not talking to someone who is a "noob"
[16:39] <anddam> as strategy in order to keep current users I'm going to keep home, create a new user upon install, and then add the users later without creating home
[16:39] <anddam> I'm afraid of losing data
[16:39] <ikonia> anddam: I don't understand that strategy
[16:39] <anddam> and cannot backup easily the data now, but they are not of the utmost importance
[16:39] <anddam> ikonia: how so?
[16:39] <ikonia> anddam: I don't understand what you're trying to do with it, or how it will help you
[16:40] <anddam> ikonia: I'm installing a new ubuntu on an old 15.04
[16:40] <anddam> while keeping existing data
[16:40] <ikonia> anddam: so you're "upgradging"
[16:40] <ikonia> not installing
[16:40] <anddam> yes, my bad
[16:40] <ikonia> not a problem
[16:40] <ikonia> how will changing users help you ?
[16:41] <anddam> as I wrote about an hour ago, just before you started replying to klemax
[16:41] <anddam> how am I changing users?
[16:41] <ikonia> anddam: I've not seen anything
[16:41] <ikonia> anddam: explain what you are doing with the users then, I don't follow
[16:42] <anddam> while upgrading on existing system I figure /etc/passwd get flushed, doesn't it?
[16:43] <ikonia> anddam: no
[16:43] <anddam> then I'm not going to do anything, really
[16:44] <anddam> I just dumped the new desktop ISO on an USB memory
[16:44] <Groar> ahhh, that was the problem, ikonia. You got it
[16:44] <anddam> thanks
[16:44] <Groar> Yeah, definitely, you're not a noob
[16:44] <Groar> thanks
[16:44] <ikonia> Groar: maybe next time show a little better manners to people and don't jump to conclusions,
[16:44] <anddam> Groar: ikonia or me?
[16:45] <anddam> oh, I see now
[16:47] <bipul> I am unable to detect my second monitor. It says "could not get screen information" inside gnome-control-center display
[16:47] <Ascavasaion> Could I install Ubuntu Desktop 16.04.01 onto my server, i3 CPU, 8Gb RAM, 8 x 4TB SCSI drives, and then install something like OpenMediaVault, or similar (suggestions would be most welcome) onto it and then use it as a NAS running in the background, and a standard normal desktop?
[16:48] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: sure
[16:50] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: OpenMediaVault?  The Googling I did says that because it is Debian based it will not work on Ubuntu.
[16:50] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: Ubuntu is debian based
[16:50] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: and you said "something like OpenMediaVault"
[16:50] <ikonia> there are many tools like it
[16:50] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: That is what I thought.. but... https://forum.openmediavault.org/index.php/Thread/5381-Fresh-Install-Will-I-run-into-many-issues-putting-OMV-on-Ubuntu-14-server/
[16:51] <bipul> yes i am able to solve it. Thank you.
[16:52] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: I believe they are saying it's a specific debian built not actually debian
[16:52] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: however there are many alternatives
[16:52] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: hehe  True... any suggestion of "something like OpenMediaVault" then?
[16:53] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: the freenas packages ?
[16:53] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: or just don't use a "package" and use solutions that are generic
[16:54] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: I can install freenas into Ubuntu?
[16:54] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: eg: just setup samba on ubuntu, with deluge torrent client, ssh server and components to make up the functionality you want
[16:54] <ikonia> Ascavasaion: lots of options for you
[16:54] <Ascavasaion> ikonia: Aaaah, okay... build it up myself.  I understand.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> or just store your media files in designated folders Like Music, Video, Pictures etc
[16:56] <BluesKaj> and add the drive to your /etc/fstab
[16:56] <anddam> mmm is the desktop ISO bootable off USB memory stick?
[16:56] <anddam> ohhhh, nvm
[16:57] <Ascavasaion> thank you ikonia and BluesKaj
[16:57] <anddam> I dumped onto first partition rather than on the device
[17:22] <xorpad> How do I set the display resolution to a forced resolution(which is my chromebooks native res) via command line with KDE on wayland?
[17:23] <xorpad> I never used wayland before and none of the settings plasma kde gives me work... the setting for resoultion isn't a dropdown with 2 options like it should be but rather a non-clickable text of 1366x768(native res is 1536x864 or something like that I can check the exact number if I get a command/file to use/edit)
[17:25] <xorpad> I installed KDE xenial with crouton on chromebook and because I hadn't re-upped the resoultion after resetting the thing, the chroot took the resolution I was using, If I want to waste several hours of setting things up that I just did, I can remake the chroot with chromebook on the higher res and the chroot will adopt it but I would like to before reinstalling from scratch via crouton via debootstrap, I'd like to try forcefully setting the
[17:25] <xorpad> resoultion if possible
[17:27] <BluesKaj> de/plasma and wayland have very limited graphics capabilities anf you resolution settings may be part of that problem...wayland on  kde is still way behind the curve
[17:27] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma
[17:28] <xorpad> BlueKaj, it defintely worked when I installed from crouton with chromebook res at native and not the default 1366x768 like I mistakenly did this time
[17:28] <xorpad> I didn't know the chroot would hard-code the resoultion into settings I can't change, or at least don't know where to find/change
[17:29] <xorpad> before I wiped my chromebook I had full res, the solution i'm trying to avoid is deleting my chroot and debootstrapping from scratch and having to reconfigure all my software and stuff I use
[17:29] <xorpad> just to get the resoultion, but I'll do it if I have to
[17:29] <xorpad> just that I spent like 3 hours installing and configuring everything I need
[17:31] <xorpad> whatever, I'm removing the image and reinstalling, I guess I got another 3 hours of FUN FUN FUN configuring my system for typical use
[17:31] <xorpad> lulz, later guys thanks for the input
[17:37] <V7> Hey all :)
[17:37] <V7> Is it okay to start Ubuntu Server 16.04 or 17 on 512MB Ram ?
[17:38] <ikonia> it will start just fine
[17:38] <V7> Thank you ikonia
[17:38] <V7> Btw which one will you recommend ? 16 or 17 ?
[17:38] <ikonia> depends on your needs
[17:38] <V7> Roger
[17:39] <Neo2> where in linux iis installed apps? I've installed keepassx and want run it like root
[17:39] <Neo2> as root
[17:39] <ikonia> Neo2: you shouldn't run it as root
[17:39] <ikonia> you should run it as your normal user
[17:40] <Neo2> but if I run as user I can't access windows disk
[17:40] <Neo2> there saved pasword database
[17:40] <leftyfb> V7: there is no Ubuntu version 16 or 17. There is 16.04, 16.10, 17.04 and 17.10. If you're going to be building a server I would highly recommend 16.04.
[17:40] <V7> Thank you leftyfb
[17:40] <ikonia> Neo2: you can mount the windows disk as the user you are running as, and you can access it
[17:41] <Neo2> in filel manager I see this file
[17:41] <Neo2> in keepass not
[17:42] <ikonia> you need to resolve that issue
[17:42] <ikonia> not run keypass as root
[17:42] <Neo2> how partitiond mount by default?
[17:42] <ikonia> it mounts under the user you are logged in as using fuser
[17:42] <Neo2> ikonia: make copy of file
[17:42] <ikonia> fuse
[17:42] <ikonia> shouldn't need to make a copy of the file
[17:43] <oguz> hi
[17:43] <electricmilk> oguz, hi
[17:43] <oguz> how are you ?
[17:43] <electricmilk> oguz, Good you?
[17:44] <oguz> good
[17:44] <Neo2> could not read the content of neo permission denight
[17:44] <Neo2> this app cant read
[17:44] <ikonia> if you can read it, the app can read it
[17:44] <Neo2> even my user folder
[17:44] <ikonia> if it's running as your user
[17:46] <Neo2> last time I'd managed to customize it in unity, it was working
[17:48] <Neo2> there exists keepassxc
[17:48] <Neo2> will try it
[17:48] <duhamel> Hi all, cannot get ubuntu 17.10 to boot even with clean install. i think its graphic related. amd rx480 do not have AMDGPU-pro installed. if i choose recovery op[tions at grub then boot normally it works.
[17:52] <duhamel> does anybody have a similar issue?
[17:52] <ikonia> nope
[17:54] <pags> hey folks - first time in the irc and I am looking for some help with an error I am getting whilst installing attempting to install ubuntu from a usb. I consistently get a 'ubiquity crashed with typeerror in partman_dialog()....' simililar to the bug described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1064151
[17:54] <pags> I can't seem to find any solutions around this and have tried on multiple usbs....any help would be greatly appreciated.
[17:54] <duhamel> is there a way to install latest amdgpu-pro with 17.10
[17:56] <duhamel> pags have you ran an md5sum on your iso? you can boot into live environment from usb? which ubuntu version?
[17:58] <pags> A bit of a newcomer to linux so I have no idea what 'md5sum' is...ubuntu 16.04 is the version I am using...I believe I am able to run in a live environment as when I selected 'Try ubuntu without installing' when intially booting, things apppear to run smoothly - it is only when I click on the install ubuntu icon that things go awry...it seems like my system is not recognizing my disk partitions and then I am thrown with this ubiquity is
[17:58] <Neo2> what does means rpm?
[17:58] <ikonia> Neo2: it means not for ubuntu - it's a package format for a different distro
[17:59] <ikonia> pags: what's your actual problem ?
[17:59] <Neo2> I downloaded skype rpm and have run it
[17:59] <ikonia> Neo2: bad idea
[17:59] <Neo2> it's independent program?
[17:59] <electricmilk> You can convert rpm to deb with alien
[17:59] <Neo2> ikonia: why?
[17:59] <ikonia> Neo2: no,
[17:59] <Neo2> ikonia: but why it run?
[17:59] <electricmilk> But way better to just download the .deb file for skype
[17:59] <Neo2> ikonia: how install it?
[17:59] <ikonia> Neo2: it's designed for redhat based systems
[17:59] <ikonia> Neo2: because it's not designed for ubuntu
[17:59] <ikonia> Neo2: you don't, it's not meant for ubuntu
[17:59] <electricmilk> You can convert rpm though but...why would you for skype
[17:59] <Neo2> ok, will seek for ubuntu
[18:00] <pags> ikonia - I am unable to install ubuntu due to a ubiquity error when attempting to install
[18:00] <ikonia> pags: does it actually error
[18:00] <duhamel> pags: Type "md5", type a space, drag the iso file into the terminal window (appends command with iso file path), and press Enter. The command line returns the hash number
[18:00] <ikonia> Neo2: you should not try to convert rpms
[18:00] <ikonia> that only really works for non-arch-specific rpms
[18:01] <duhamel> then check ubuntus website to compare the number to their md5sum listed
[18:01] <Neo2> ikonia: how install skype?
[18:01] <Neo2> there one distr
[18:01] <ikonia> !skype | Neo2
[18:03] <duhamel> pags: another thing is to format your hard drive with gparted before using the installer. are you using "erase and install" or "something else" option in the installer
[18:05] <ikonia> pags: I'm interested in the error and your disk setup, eg: a raided disk or encypted
[18:05] <pags> duhamel the only option I select is 'english' on the first screen and then it seems to go to the screen where I select whether to 'install third-party software for graphics and wifi-hardware...'
[18:05] <pags> I leave the box unchecked and then hit continue
[18:06] <Neo2> ikonia: that skype that I download in rpm we can run without install
[18:06] <pags> and then on the 'instalation type' screen there is no drives detected and when I click chance it says 'ubuntu has experienced an internal error'
[18:06] <Neo2> ikonia: ./ and all works
[18:06] <pags> and gives the ubiquity error
[18:07] <duhamel> okay are you dual booting or just installing ubuntu?
[18:07] <pags> just installing ubuntu
[18:08] <ikonia> Neo2: once again - I advise you not to do that
[18:08] <pags> its on a asus 270a motherboard using a 7th gen celeron intel processor
[18:08] <duhamel> are you connected to the internet with the live environment?
[18:08] <pags> I have not placed my wifi adapter in yet
[18:09] <pags> so no I am not connected to the internet
[18:09] <Neo2> ikonia: why? See, I can create folder where I'll store all this apps, and make shellscript for run it?
[18:09] <ikonia> Neo2: for the reason I've said 2 times - it's not designed for ubuntu
[18:09] <Neo2> ikonia: that skype from rmp is not installed, it uses own files
[18:10] <Neo2> ikonia: it's portable?
[18:10] <gambl0re> why am i still seeing my windows drive mounted in ubuntu?
[18:10] <ikonia> Neo2: I'm bored of explaining this now, do what you want, I've advised you not to do this, do what you want
[18:10] <Neo2> why it works without installation?
[18:10] <Neo2> if app is not portable it can work too?
[18:10] <leftyfb> gambl0re: that's a loaded question. Might want to clarify.
[18:10] <ikonia> Neo2: you've probably just expanded it, an rpm is basically a cpio archive
[18:11] <electricmilk> Neo2,  Here is a good guide to install skype on ubuntu https://www.lifewire.com/install-skype-4-3-in-ubuntu-15-10-2202062
[18:11] <Neo2> ikonia: see what I have http://storage5.static.itmages.com/i/17/1229/h_1514571094_5715084_7895fae0fd.png
[18:11] <gambl0re> when i open up Folders i can still see my windows drive even though im booted in ubuntu
[18:12] <ikonia> Neo2: I don't care what you have
[18:12] <duhamel> i would connect to the net with a hard line just to make things easier. some wifi adapters can still be a pain in the ass even with 16.04
[18:12] <ikonia> Neo2: it doesn't change anything I've said
[18:12] <Neo2> electricmilk: I extracted files and got two folders
[18:12] <leftyfb> gambl0re: it's probably not mounted till you click on it.
[18:12] <Neo2> ikonia: but it's works, and sublime 3 also worked in this way
[18:12] <leftyfb> gambl0re: Ubuntu should/will list all available drives for mounting that are attached
[18:12] <duhamel> most will work out of the box but some oddballs dont
[18:12] <ikonia> Neo2: you've said that, and I've explained why it's a bad idea,
[18:12] <pags> duhamel: Could you advise on the next steps I should take when I connect to the internet? My ethernet port quite is far and it will take a bit of effort to get connected to it
[18:12] <ikonia> Neo2: so it's up to you what you want to do
[18:13] <pags> ill have to move the setup over
[18:13] <Neo2> ikonia: ok
[18:14] <leftyfb> gambl0re: https://askubuntu.com/questions/124094/how-to-hide-an-ntfs-partition-from-ubuntu
[18:14] <leftyfb> gambl0re: look at the 2nd post
[18:15] <gambl0re> can it be potentially hazardous if i just left it?
[18:16] <Neo2> electricmilk: I couldn't find this url #deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu yakkety partner
[18:16] <Neo2> I shuuld add it?
[18:17] <duhamel> pags: i would connect to internet, leave additional software and updates unchecked. sometimes after you select next after this step it can take a while to move on. the next screen is where to install. select something else. click the hdd you want to use then click the plus sign, make a 1024 mb ext4 partition for /boot check the format box. make a 10240mb ext4 partition for / and most of the rest for /home. after that you could also
[18:17] <duhamel> make a swap area if on hdd (i skip this step on sdd)
[18:17] <Neo2> why there urls are differ? http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/1229/h_1514571446_8148315_ee642fc12c.png
[18:18] <pags> ok that makes sense - is there any particular reason that being connected to the internet would help in the installation process?
[18:19] <pags> When I get to the partition screen it just shows me an empty screen where my ubiquity crashes - why would being connected to the internet solve this?
[18:19] <duhamel> then click next and follow instructions. im running asus z270i with no problems getting through installer. just double check the md5 and make sure you're connected to the internet before installing.
[18:20] <pags> also I tried running md5 on the installation file and it gives me a 'md5' command not found
[18:20] <duhamel> that sounds more like a currupt iso than a connection problem.
[18:21] <pags> i have tried xubuntu as well as ubuntu...followed the steps identically from https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[18:22] <duhamel> sorry its md5sum that you type, not just md5
[18:23] <may_> i am trying to install ubuntu server on a new ESP but it installs on a full ESP i specifically told it to not use, gives "grub-install failed" and now i cant boot my other distro.
[18:24] <TheWild> hello
[18:24] <duhamel> pags: unetbootin is another tool for writing iso images to usb for windows. maybe give that a try if the rufus way doesn't work.
[18:24] <duhamel> Hi all, cannot get ubuntu 17.10 to boot even with clean install. i think its graphic related. amd rx480 do not have AMDGPU-pro installed. if i choose recovery op[tions at grub then boot normally it works.
[18:25] <TheWild> there's "Install third-party software..." during installation. I don't want to install it right now. Will I be able to install it later as easily as like the option was checked?
[18:27] <TheWild> ah nvm. https://askubuntu.com/questions/290293/how-can-i-install-the-third-party-software-option-after-ive-skipped-it-in-the
[18:27] <pags> duhamel I appreciate the help - one more question any thoughts on where this iso file would be located?
[18:28] <duhamel> well, if you downloaded it in windows it would be int the download folder of the windows partition. you will have to look in that partition with the live ubuntu
[18:29] <pags> the only thing I see on my usb is this 'install ubuntu 16.04.03 LTS' file whicch does not appear to be an iso
[18:30] <pags> keep in mind, this usb is plugge into my motherboard
[18:31] <duhamel> is it plugged into the same motherboard that the windows is installed on?
[18:32] <pags> no that motherboard has nothing installed on it
[18:32] <Neo2> rpm is for fedora deb for debian
[18:32] <pags> hence trying to install ubuntu OS
[18:32] <ikonia> Neo2: you where told that ages ago
[18:33] <Neo2> ikonia: I didn't understand instantly
[18:33] <Neo2> because this work well
[18:33] <ikonia> this has been explained to you 10+ times
[18:33] <ikonia> I'm not sure why you are still going on about it
[18:34] <duhamel> okay do you have another blank thumbdrive?
[18:34] <duhamel> one that will fit ubuntu on it?
[18:35] <pags> what do you mean fit ubuntu on it?
[18:35] <pags> It is a 64 gb usb
[18:37] <duhamel> well i could give you instructions on how to download and burn a clean copy of ubuntu onto another thumb drive using the live environment ubuntu that you're on.
[18:38] <duhamel> the problem is that it's hard to troubleshoot a new install with an inexperienced user because there are a lot of variables
[18:38] <Neo2> ikonia: I've installed from here , works good like that from rpm https://askubuntu.com/questions/7498/how-do-i-install-skype/932189#932189
[18:39] <pags> duhamel do you have a link with good instructions to do so?
[18:40] <pags> otherwise I totally understand --- It is definitely a tricky side to be giving advise on
[18:40] <ikonia> Neo2: how many times do you have to be told this ?
[18:40] <duhamel> ill look, one second.
[18:41] <pags> just want to make sure this is a good bet before I make the arduous effort of moving the setup over to the ethernet port
[18:46] <duhamel> pags: https://www.debugpoint.com/2016/07/how-to-write-iso-image-to-usb-drive-in-ubuntu/ this is a simple way to do it with gui.
[18:48] <duhamel> pags: 1 connect ubuntu machine to internet, 2 download copy of ubuntu 16.04 from ubuntu's lts page, 3 verify download integrity  with md5sum command in terminal, 4 follow https://www.debugpoint.com/2016/07/how-to-write-iso-image-to-usb-drive-in-ubuntu/
[18:50] <genii> Alternately, if you're already on a linux machine, just use dd to write it
[18:53] <pags> ok I think that makes sense duhamel -- will keep you updated if you are around for the next bit...thanks for the selfless help
[18:55] <duhamel> pags: okay bro. no problem hopefully it works out. welcome to linux! be persistant and you will be installing Arch and building LFS in no time!
[18:59] <pags> when I download the clean copy of ubuntu where should I store that file?
[19:00] <pags> haha thanks buddy, it is about time I become familiar with the linux architecture - I have no idea what those things are, but I am sure that is the dream
[19:06] <lordcirth> pags, you may find this useful if you wish to learn: https://linuxjourney.com/
[19:08] <pags> thanks lordcirth, will be taking a deep dive if I can get linux downloaded haha
[19:12] <duhamel> download it to the download folder, or wherever, it doesn't matter. as long as you know where it is.
[19:18] <mahdi> how copy file is download to opt
[19:23] <rypervenche> mahdi: What are you trying to put in opt?
[19:33] <pags> duhamel you still around?
[19:42] <khz12345> #scipy
[19:44] <Neo2> what in ubuntu use for torrents files? In windows it's mutorrent
[19:44] <Neo2> but it doesnt' have linux coppy
[19:45] <ikonia> Neo2: there are loads of torrent clients, open the package manager and search for torrent
[19:45] <adder> transmission works for me just fine
[19:46] <Neo2> there from repository accessts tor browser too
[19:47] <ikonia> what ?
[19:51] <Neo2> ikonia: there tor browser is accessable from repository too
[19:55] <lordcirth> Neo2, Transmission and Deluge are good
[19:55] <Neo2> ok, will use it
[19:56] <Neo2> transmission
[19:56] <Neo2> I want to customize goldendict and cant add dictionaries there
[19:57] <briian> has anyone had issues creating a windows usb on ubuntu?
[19:57] <ikonia> Neo2: you didn't ask about tor
[19:57] <ikonia> Neo2: you asked about a torrent browser ?
[19:57] <ikonia> Neo2: what is your native language ?
[19:57] <briian> i created a usb but it's not detecting it in bios
[19:57] <Neo2> almost do the developing computer ) install LAMP and translator and can say all are prapeared
[19:58] <ikonia> Neo2: what is your native language to talk in ?
[19:58] <Neo2> ikonia: ) yes, when I was founding torrent I found tor too
[19:58] <adder> klingon
[19:59] <Neo2> ikonia: Russian and Ukrainian both native
[19:59] <ikonia> Neo2: you may want to try #ubuntu-ru
[20:00] <Neo2> ikonia: I perfectly understand in English, not, have already tried it, there little users
[20:00] <Neo2> ikonia: better here :)
[20:01] <ikonia> Neo2: you don't seem to understand English, as you are struggling to communicate things or understand information, hence why I was suggesting #ubuntu-ru maybe better
[20:01] <Neo2> ikonia: I try to search in ru-net when can't find in en-net
[20:01] <ikonia> again ru-net/en-net - no-one is talking about that
[20:01] <ikonia> I was suggesting you join #ubuntu-ru for native language discussio
[20:01] <ikonia> n
[20:01] <ikonia> this is what I mean about struggling to understand/communicate
[20:02] <Neo2> ikonia: no, I probably intermediate English, can understand language, its hight level )
[20:02] <ikonia> what you said makes no sense
[20:02] <ikonia> again - suggesting you may have better luck in #ubuntu-ru
[20:03] <Neo2> ikonia: I was there and there were 10 people. Thanks, I'll better leave here )
[20:16] <soLucien> So i'm using Ubuntu 16.04 which has openssl v 1.7.2 as the release version . I want to update to 1.7.5. I used this gist https://gist.github.com/stefansundin/0fd6e9de172041817d0b8a75f1ede677 to build it from source  but ran into issues with APT
[20:17] <jrp93> soLucien, --force-depends all the things
[20:17] <soLucien> so how do i install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/1:7.5p1-2
[20:18] <lordcirth> soLucien, why do you need 1.7.5?
[20:18] <ikonia> soLucien: don't built it from source
[20:18] <soLucien> lordcirth: because of the -J flag
[20:18] <jrp93> it's not from source
[20:18] <ikonia> soLucien: trust the package manager and the packages built by ubuntu
[20:18] <soLucien> which makes using Jump servers a breeze
[20:19] <ikonia> jrp93: he's using git to build from source
[20:19] <ikonia> jrp93: that is "from source"
[20:19] <jrp93> uh no
[20:19] <jrp93> he's installing a bunch of package files
[20:19] <soLucien> ikonia this is a VM i am not endangering
[20:19] <soLucien> anyone
[20:19] <soLucien> yes i am installing some packages
[20:20] <ikonia> jrp93: he said "to build it from source"
[20:20] <soLucien> my bad
[20:20] <ikonia> he actually said the words "to build it from source"
[20:20] <soLucien> i didn't build from source
[20:20] <jrp93> he says that cause he doesn't know what he's talking about
[20:20] <soLucien> i know what build from source
[20:20] <soLucien> i USED THIS SOURCE to install it
[20:20] <soLucien> but ran into trouble with APT
[20:20] <ikonia> just use the ubuntu packages
[20:20] <lordcirth> soLucien, read your first comment: " to build it from source  but ran into issues with APT"
[20:21] <jrp93> ikonia, use --force-depends on every .deb
[20:21] <jrp93> soLucien, *
[20:21] <ikonia> if your using external packages and they are having dependency problems, talk to the package maintainers to do a better job
[20:21] <ikonia> dpkg....ughh
[20:21] <ikonia> this just looks like the worst shell script
[20:21] <ikonia> wget and dpki -i
[20:21] <ikonia> dpkg
[20:22] <soLucien> ikonia okay
[20:23] <soLucien> how to reliably install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/1:7.5p1-2 in a pr0 way
[20:23] <ikonia> soLucien: why not use the ubuntu package
[20:23] <soLucien> ikonia because it lacks a feature
[20:24] <soLucien> that I direly want
[20:24] <ikonia> soLucien: what feature ?
[20:25] <ikonia> you've just posted a link to an ssh repo - but you where trying to install SSL earlier ?
[20:25] <soLucien> it lacks -J which was added in 1.7.3
[20:25] <ikonia> what is -J ?
[20:25] <soLucien> https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.3
[20:25] <ikonia> compiler option or daemon argument
[20:25] <soLucien> Add a ProxyJump option and corresponding -J command-line    flag
[20:26] <ikonia> if you wanted ssh why are you installing ssl ?
[20:26] <soLucien> it's a ssh client proxy jump option
[20:26] <ikonia> yes, you said that
[20:26] <ikonia> but if you wanted ssh why are you installing ssl packages
[20:29] <soLucien> ikonia i need openssh-client_7.5p1-10_amd64.deb . This may depend on the other packages
[20:29] <ikonia> "may"? ?
[20:29] <ikonia> you should "know" before installing other things
[20:29] <soLucien> what's with the passive aggressive attitude man
[20:29] <soLucien> give me a hand
[20:29] <ikonia> this all looks really sloppy and to be honest, pointless
[20:29] <ikonia> soLucien: there is nothing passive agressive about it
[20:29] <soLucien> this is my VM i am trying to make this work
[20:29] <ikonia> asking questions and trying to understand what you are doing is not passive agressive
[20:29] <soLucien> it's a dev server
[20:29] <ikonia> soLucien: just because it's a VM doesn't change anything
[20:30] <soLucien> and i am asking for advice ,
[20:30] <soLucien> so i can do it in a better way
[20:30] <ikonia> right, and the advice is a.) don't do it b.) don't install dependencies you don't know it needs
[20:32] <soLucien> ikonia so i *NEED* this functionality. It's been around since 2016 . I want to write my shell scripts using the -J option for ssh-client .
[20:33] <ikonia> soLucien: if it's been around since 2016 and it's almost 2018 - I doubt you *need* it
[20:33] <soLucien> ubuntu 16.04 has not added it for some reason or another . How do I get it ?
[20:33] <ikonia> probably because there is no need to add it to 16.04
[20:34] <ikonia> it maybe in the non-LTS releases ready for the next LTS 18.04 release
[20:34] <soLucien> i am a USER of ubuntu 16.04 and i need this functionality. Who are you to decide what i need and what i don't
[20:34] <soLucien> listen to yourself
[20:34] <ikonia> I'm not deciding what you need and what you don't
[20:34] <ikonia> I said I doubt you need it
[20:38] <dreamcat4> uh... you could install it in a docker container. with newer ubuntu image (inside the container)
[20:38] <ikonia> building a docker service for an ssh jump host....
[20:38] <ikonia> bit overkill
[20:39] <dreamcat4> this would not mess around with the other deps in your host ubuntu 16.04 system
[20:39] <dreamcat4> so its good in that respect
[20:39] <dreamcat4> or you could try to find some statically linked version of ssh
[20:39] <dreamcat4> that didnt have the lib deps
[20:40] <dreamcat4> ikonia: if you dont wish to do those other options then... upgrade your ubuntu version
[20:40] <dreamcat4> nobody here is stopping you
[20:40] <ikonia> I don't need any of this
[20:40] <ikonia> I'm quite happy doing it myself if I wanted to update package versions
[20:41] <dreamcat4> great then
[20:41] <ikonia> hence why I'm not asking for help on it
[20:41] <dreamcat4> this is really the crux of linux issues BTW... so i am sympathetic to this stuff
[20:41] <ikonia> there is no linux issue
[20:42] <dreamcat4> package versions, and not enough people to maintain a million distro-specifc packages and their dependancies
[20:42] <ikonia> the distros maintain their packages really well
[20:42] <dreamcat4> its an issue of linux, because there are so many different distros
[20:42] <ikonia> not really the distro's maintain their own packages just fine
[20:42] <dreamcat4> its a huge duplication of work
[20:43] <dreamcat4> if we had a common package format we wouldnt be repeating ourselves half so much
[20:43] <ikonia> this is offtopic for this channel really
[20:43] <ikonia> #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place for that discussion
[20:44] <dreamcat4> oh sorry ikonia i think i was thinking my comment were directed at soLucien instead. an honest mistake.
[20:44] <ikonia> dreamcat4: it's not a problem, don't worry
[20:44] <dreamcat4> got your nicknams mixed up. sorry.
[20:45] <ikonia> dreamcat4: not a problem at all
[20:45] <Apachez> its beginning... https://imgur.com/gallery/HqTySJ3
[20:45] <ikonia> Apachez: thats nothing to do with this channel
[20:45] <ikonia> please keep it out of this channel
[20:48] <dreamcat4> thats a debian swirl though
[20:48] <ikonia> yes, and it's nothing to do with this channel
[20:48] <Zophike1> anyone know where the binarity's for the freetype libary are located ?
[20:51] <ikonia> binary for a library ?
[20:51] <ikonia> that doesn't make sense
[21:07] <gracious1> rehi
[21:08] <an0n_> hi
[21:08] <gracious1> hi an0n
[21:11] <gracious1> My fork is live!
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[21:20] <syntax990> Guys I have a problem
[21:21] <syntax990> No commands are working, terminal is blank
[21:22] <syntax990> There are over 200 people here and no one is arand?
[21:22] <syntax990> Dafaq
[21:22] <Zophike1> exit
[21:22] <syntax990> Ight fine I'll google it
[21:22] <syntax990> Ahh its working now dont worry
[21:23] <syntax990> fanks
[21:23] <Sinistrad> Hi all. Have a Win10 laptop that I installed ubuntu and kali on. Neither boot. Windows still does. I can get ubuntu to boot via recovery. I was able to try boot-repair and it gave me this report at https://paste.ubuntu.com/26280856/
[21:27] <Sinistrad> More info: I do have grub2 installed and it now boots since I ran a command in windows so grub shows up. My next thought is to repartition a slice out of sda or sdb
[21:30] <DroidLinux93> Hi!
[21:31] <DroidLinux93> I'm having issues with PulseAudio which PulseAudio -k confirms to fix the static in my audio from my speakers..
[21:31] <DroidLinux93> How do i remove Pulseaudio and use Alsa
[21:32] <DroidLinux93> the forums seem to be no help at all.. Its been like 3 days and no replies yet.
[21:32] <DroidLinux93> Not even a 2 views on it.. :/
[21:36] <TJ-> DroidLinux93: how are the speakers connected?
[21:42] <DroidLinux93> TJ- the back of the computer's analog ports
[21:42] <DroidLinux93> the Mobo Gigabyte maker says its alc887
[21:43] <TJ-> DroidLinux93: OK, so nothing special like Bluetooth then. We had an issue recently with Bluetooth speakers is why I asked
[21:44] <TJ-> DroidLinux93: before you rip out PA, have you checked 'dmesg' kernel log for clues of problems?
[21:45] <DroidLinux93> No i haven't.. I'll do that now :3
[21:45]  * DroidLinux93 is new to the linux world
[21:47] <TJ-> DroidLinux93: if you want to share do "pastebinit <( dmesg )" and give us the URL
[22:05] <douglas> hi
[22:05] <douglas> sn
[22:05] <douglas> anyone
[22:06] <douglas> .
[22:06] <douglas> .
[22:06] <e_> !ask | douglas
[22:07] <rws> I am running Ubuntu 17.04 and stuck in a login loop. Tried several suggestions on ubuntu forum with no luck anyone want to go through the things I've tried with me and ccome up with more ideas?
[22:08] <Pazooza> 17.04 is always stuck on something.
[22:08] <rws> Currently I have lightdm installed (tried gdm3 still loopy).
[22:09] <tezogmix> what is the intention of amazon in ubuntu 16.x LTS and can this be fully removed?
[22:10] <tezogmix> rather, how can we remove the amazon integration on the desktop 16.x lts version
[22:11] <Bashing-om> rws: Generally 2 things . access rights to the desktop, and a driver for the GUI . what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ; sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[22:13] <rws> Bashing-om: I have rw and ownership of .Xauthority and .ICEauthority
[22:14] <Bashing-om> rws: And able to log into the system via F2 console ?
[22:14] <rws> Bashing-om: lshw shows lots of information. What do you want me to pick out to transcribe?
[22:15] <ghostnik11> hey when a person is like making a kernel or adding it through git is it okay after it passes the scripts that it uses as a default the regular kernel in 4.12 when i using a 4.9.19 kernel configuration
[22:15] <rws> Bashing-om: Yes. I am on virtual console.
[22:16] <rws> *-display
[22:16] <rws> description: VGA compatible controller
[22:17] <rws> product: GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070]
[22:17] <rws> vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[22:17] <ghostnik11> muqss cpu scheduler should be turned on or not?
[22:17] <Bashing-om> rws: pastebin the lshw command's output .
[22:17] <rws> Bashing-om: Will do
[22:19] <ghostnik11> cross-compiler tool prefix = should that be a yes or a no?
[22:23] <ghostnik11> okay when your asked questions like: expose hardware/virtual irq mapping via debugfs and it gives you the option [N/Y/?] does that mean you should select N since thats the first one it gave
[22:23] <rws> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26281205/
[22:25] <Bashing-om> rws: K, looks good - next up is did the nvidia module build ' lsmod | grep nvidia ' in a pastebin .
[22:29] <ghostnik11> Kernel .config support (IKCONFIG) = No or Yes?
[22:31] <rws> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26281235/
[22:32] <TJ-> ghostnik11: your questions would be better addressed in ##kernel, or via the kernel's Documentation/ Kbuild docs
[22:33] <Bashing-om> rws: module did build . now what is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[22:33] <ghostnik11> TJ-, yeah i think i already selected some answers bad in this test to build this kernel from git but i am starting to understand that usually the first option they give you is what they want you to select?
[22:36] <ghostnik11> TJ-, hey whats your opinion? is that usually normal when running a command in terminal and it gvies you the first letter for what you should select?
[22:36] <TJ-> ghostnik11: are you running "make oldconfig" ?
[22:37] <ghostnik11> TJ-, i just ran make config
[22:37] <ghostnik11> TJ-, but it did take the oldconfig from 4.12 or something like that it said
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Using 17.10 and I added the PPA for mozillateam and installed firefox-trunk and firefox-trunk-locales-sv, but Firefox still won't change into Swedish.
[22:38] <Umeaboy> Need some help, please.
[22:39] <Umeaboy> I did ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam as well. No answer atm.
[22:39] <ghostnik11> TJ-, check it out here: https://pastebin.com/a7yUYpQX
[22:42] <rws> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26281275/
[22:46] <Bashing-om> rws: Humm, do not know if it is meaningful or not. but nvidia-setting should be on the 387 version . try ' sudo apt install --reinstall nvidia-settings ' .
[22:51] <rws> Bashing-om: It reinstalls the same version.
[22:54] <Bashing-om> rws: Maybe there is something in 17.04 I am not aware of ( 16.04 here ) . What shows ' apt list nvidia-settings ' ?
[22:55] <rws> Bashing-om: nvidia-settings/zesty,now 367.35-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed, automatic]
[22:56] <dekatch> !es
[22:56] <dekatch> gg
[22:56] <Umeaboy> !sv
[22:57] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-settings zesty
[22:58] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-settings xenial
[23:01] <Umeaboy> !info nvidia-settings arty
[23:01] <Bashing-om> rws: Well, maybe because I am pulling the driver from pir PPA ? my output : http://termbin.com/vdyn .
[23:01] <Umeaboy> !info nvidia-settings artful
[23:02] <adac> 'j /bash
[23:03] <Bashing-om> rws: what DE is in use presently ? maybe re-configure for say lightdm ? see what the system says ?
[23:03] <rws> Bashing-om: I am on the canonical PPAs
[23:04] <rws> Bashing-om: Currently using lightdm.  I tried switching to GDM, but it still loops back to login greeter.
[23:06] <rws> gdm = gdm3
[23:06] <Bashing-om> rws: Pointing to a user setting in the desk top . Same results when activating the guest account ?
[23:11] <rws> Bashing-om: Oh shoot. This is a lock screen. I have automatic login set to the one account on this system. How do I change the config from terminal?
[23:12] <Umeaboy> What's the name of the window that appears directly when you start to upgrade an Ubuntu version? ubuntu-dist-upgrader?
[23:13] <Umeaboy> I see some parts of that window isn't fully translated into Swedish.
[23:13] <Bashing-om> rws: Never been there . in this case I just do not know .. but that ^ might be the source of the issue .
[23:13] <Umeaboy> Or is it a part of Ubiquity?
[23:18] <vidar> I tried to install something to get a streamingservice to work(hbonordic), not important that it didn't work. Now I getting an error when running sudo apt-get update.   E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/pipelight/stable/ubuntu artful Release' does not have a Release file.N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
[23:18] <vidar> configuration details.
[23:19] <vidar> There is no links to any PPA in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:22] <Neo2> vidar: ?
[23:22] <Bashing-om> vidar: 3rd party sources are genweally in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory ( .d) .
[23:23] <Neo2> vidar: try this sudo apt-get clean , and then again sudo apt-get update
[23:23] <rusty122> i'm trying to start mpd my user in systemd but can't find an mpd module in /usr/lib/systemd/user/
[23:23] <rusty122> is there a work-around?
[23:24] <Neo2> in ubuntu only one ftp clietn available? winSCP impossible install, should use wine, I don't want
[23:24] <Neo2> only filezila?
[23:25] <Neo2> how I can connect to my VPS, I have 4 ssh key, in windows I use putty, What shall I use for ubuntu?
[23:26] <Bashing-om> vidar: That PPA is not maintained for zesy. See : http://ppa.launchpad.net/pipelight/stable/ubuntu .
[23:26] <dekatch> Neo2, gosh, i think you should take some time and read into all that.. may i ask your native language Neo2 ?
[23:27] <TJ-> !ssh | Neo2
[23:27] <dekatch> yea ssh into it :)
[23:28] <dekatch> its like digging into females, very fluent :ü
[23:28] <Neo2> TJ-: I need for linux? what here use all?
[23:28] <dekatch> :p
[23:28] <Neo2> openssh?
[23:28]  * dekatch became sexist and now is on shame :p
[23:29] <Neo2> TJ-: what do you use for SSH connect to VPS?
[23:30] <dekatch> Neo2, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
[23:30] <Neo2> well, Will read...
[23:30] <dekatch> may i ask your native language? you dont sound like native english speaking. no offense. but it might help you along the way if we knew
[23:30] <Neo2> dekatch: I'm dual languages native
[23:31] <rws> How do I disable automatic login outside of the GUI? Tried /etc/group and /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:31] <gordonjcp> Neo2: in a terminal just type "ssh <hostname>"
[23:31] <Neo2> dekatch: Ukrainian and Russian
[23:31] <dekatch> whats your first two native languages then Neo2 xd
[23:31] <dekatch> no offense rly
[23:31] <dekatch>  i am just as bad in english xd
[23:31] <Neo2> dekatch: both equal
[23:31] <dekatch> xd
[23:31] <gordonjcp> Neo2: I believe you actually can get putty for Linux, but it's kind of not worth the effort
[23:31] <Neo2> dekatch: in Ukraine everybody is native for both
[23:32] <Neo2> gordonjcp: ok, was easy to use windows before... :(
[23:32] <dekatch> ukraine, ok, i respect you. i only hate the eu about intervening ukrane RU conflicts. anyway, have a good one Neo2
[23:32] <gordonjcp> Neo2: it's not really any harder
[23:33] <gordonjcp> Neo2: and there are other neat tricks you can do with command-line ssh
[23:33] <vidar> Thanks Bashing-om, deleted the PPA files in the sources.list.d directory, problem solved!
[23:33] <Bashing-om> vidar: :) .
[23:33] <bazhang> dekatch, Neo2 lets take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[23:33] <Neo2> gordonjcp: golden dickt is not like abbyy lingvo.., but benefits browsers works very fast, and not exists lags when load huge sites with javascript
[23:34] <gdrc> hello, my ubuntu 75% of the time doesn't boot. I select the option to run in on grub 2.02 but then nothing happens. what do you suggest to do?
[23:34] <gordonjcp> Neo2: I'm not sure what that means
[23:34] <Neo2> gordonjcp: goldendickt? translator
[23:35] <Neo2> put dictionaries and you can translate words
[23:35] <gordonjcp> right
[23:35] <dekatch> already donw bazhang . i thought i could help him providing him websites with informations about his requests in his native language, but he seems confident to tackle it down in english only. so it was my fault
[23:35] <gordonjcp> Neo2: sorry, English isn't my first language
[23:35] <dekatch> done*
[23:36] <Neo2> gordonjcp: oh and what translator do you use? GoldenDict is the best for linux, abby of course better
[23:37] <Neo2> gordonjcp: you can also to try it http://goldendict.org/
[23:37] <Neo2> in softwhere senter install
[23:37] <gordonjcp> Neo2: I don't, my English is generally pretty oaky
[23:37] <gordonjcp> *okay
[23:37] <Neo2> gordonjcp: ok, :)
[23:38] <gordonjcp> Neo2: and no-one here speaks Gaelic
[23:38]  * dekatch likes garlic on some dishes
[23:38] <rws> How do I disable automatic login outside of the GUI? Using lightdm and stuck with a lock screen
[23:39] <Neo2> gordonjcp: in this program exist history, you can read book and look translation of new words without to write out words, and then after reading you go to history and write out words. You will get pleasure from reading in this way, they immediately  write words
[23:40] <Neo2> gordonjcp: you are from England?
[23:40] <bazhang> !ot | Neo2
[23:41] <Neo2> ok
[23:41] <gordonjcp> Neo2: no
[23:41] <gordonjcp> Neo2: Scotland
[23:41] <dekatch> are you gordon ramsey? gosh from scotland xd
[23:42] <gordonjcp> dekatch: no, I don't like football and I'm better at cooking
[23:42] <dekatch> if only the british wouldnt have so much influence on these countrys i would love the scottish
[23:42] <dekatch> haha
[23:42] <dekatch> but i love the notherns either way
[23:43] <dekatch> !
[23:43] <bazhang> dekatch, gordonjcp Neo2 we've asked several times now, please take the excess chatter elsewhere, thanks
[23:43]  * dekatch gosh i am leaving
[23:44] <rws> How do I disable automatic login outside of the GUI? Using lightdm and stuck with a lock screen. Not a password issue. Anyone?
[23:44]  * dekatch is not here anymore, just idleing
[23:45] <jrp93> Wouldn't a lock screen mean it's disabled
[23:47] <rws> jrp93: The box is set up to login automatically to one account. Instead of getting the lightdm greeter, I am getting a lock screen on boot.
[23:49] <Vladimirski> I want to verify the validity of an iso from ubuntu's website but the page where I get the shasum's is not secure
[23:49] <Vladimirski> it's not https
[23:49] <Vladimirski> the following page is https secure but no when I click on the download link: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu?_ga=2.34236962.2005692676.1514482509-76008858.1514482509#1
[23:50] <Vladimirski> the download link takes me to a non-secure website
[23:51] <dekatch> the linkds provided on their page should be secure, but i am fairly sure there should be some hash around to verify
[23:51] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes Vladimirski try that
[23:51] <dax> the shasums are gnupg signed. UbuntuHashes used to have them too but then they removed them because lol wiki
[23:52] <Vladimirski> bazhang: thanks, but it's the same results, I click on the download link but it's not secure: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[23:52] <dax> so verify them with gpg
[23:52] <dekatch> you have to compate the hashes once you downloaded?
[23:52] <dekatch> or the other way
[23:53] <Vladimirski> I've downloaded the hashes and compared the, they are the same yes, but the page where I got them from is not secure. So how do I know both the hash and the iso hasn't been tethered with?
[23:53] <jrp93> G P G
[23:53] <jrp93> It's a signature
[23:53] <dax> you compare the .iso with the hashfile. you verify the hashfile with the gpg signature of the hashfile
[23:53] <dekatch> i dont think there is an infected or hyperjacked link on ubuntu.com
[23:53] <dekatch> and it, for sure not for long
[23:53] <dax> dekatch: which is irrelevant, because HTTP webpages can be MITMed
[23:54] <gtrmtx> "mdadm --monitor --scan --test
[23:54] <gtrmtx> " hangs for me
[23:55] <gtrmtx> anyone have any suggestions?
[23:55] <gtrmtx> im trying to get email notifications up and running
[23:55] <TickerTape> gtrmtx: mdadm --deborkify
[23:55] <gtrmtx> i have an smtp relay set up with sendmail but mdadm appears to use something else
[23:56] <gtrmtx> TickerTape, i wish
[23:56] <gtrmtx> mdadm --fixeverything
[23:56] <TickerTape> or why not just ubuntuautoadmin --fixeverything
[23:57] <jrp93> mdadm is so needlessly complicated
[23:57] <gordonjcp> TickerTape: I prefer "sudo apt burnitall"
[23:58] <dax> I prefer #ubuntu stick to offering advice using commands that actually exist. Confuses the newbies less.
[23:59] <ghostnik11> quick question for our distro what does ubuntu use for: openssl-devel b/c when i do apt-get openssl-devel i get errors