[03:35] <eseven73> noriyuki: i said every 10 mins not every 10 seconds
[03:35] <dr_willis> noriyuki,  ive seen many 'normal' players that do that.. so im not sure what you are really looking for....
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest39686, You cant because it already is registered to another pewrson
[03:35] <noriyuki> eseven73, just edited a bit lol
[03:35] <Rapture2k4> type /nick Rob
[03:35] <eseven73> lol ok
[03:35] <eseven73> jus tdidnt wanna see you get banned for repeating so fast :)
[03:35] <noriyuki> dr_willis, some kind of dj program to interchange music
[03:36] <dr_willis> noriyuki,  not sure what a 'dj' program really does.. other then play the music...
[03:36] <qwexer> I am still looking for an answer regarding getting my bluetooth USB adapter to be recognized by Ubuntu 8.04, is shows up w/ lsusb but that is it
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> noriyuki, getdeb.net might have something that will work for you
[03:36] <dr_willis> noriyuki,  also 'google is our friend'  :)
[03:36] <Guest6915>  ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback how do i change this as apache2 doesn't recoginze it and won't open localhost
[03:36] <qwexer> I thought I had all of the correct tools and such dl from synaptic
[03:37] <hansel> noriyuki: you just want to create playlists and be able to change the order in real time?
[03:37] <Chrisie> noriyuki: IDJC (Internet DJ Console) might be what you're after - worth a Google
[03:37] <rccu> earthmeLon: see dmesg output
[03:37] <Rapture2k4> is there a way to figure out the UUID of a flash drive?
[03:37] <noriyuki> hansel, yeep! thats it
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> qwe1, Depends on if your hardware has support
[03:37] <dr_willis> !uuid | Rapture2k4
[03:37] <earthmeLon> Thanks rccu
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, same as any other drive
[03:37] <SpinachHead> can someone kill internet explorer?
[03:37] <rob> asically localhost fialed to connect
[03:37] <noriyuki> hansel, but dont confuse with shuffling lol
[03:37] <hansel> noriyuki: well most players can do that... Banshee, VLC, et al...
[03:37] <qwexer> ok, I have rocketfish, but can't find anything anywhere
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > SpinachHead,
[03:37] <Guest64786> :: 1 might e the prolem as i have read
[03:37] <macjason0607> guys .. everytime i try to install this window driver it says unable to see if hardware is present .. any ideas ?
[03:38] <nachohi88> hey i used apt-get auto remove to remove old kernels but they still appearing in my grub screen.. How do i remove them?
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !register > guest64786
[03:38] <rccu> nachohi88: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:38] <dr_willis> nachohi88,  try 'sudo update-grub' first..
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> nachohi88, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:39] <nachohi88> hey looks like updating it worked
[03:39] <nachohi88> thanks
[03:39] <Rapture2k4> do UUIDs change from computer to computer?
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, it is assigned when you partition the drive, but can be changed
[03:40] <Rapture2k4> ah, ok
[03:40] <qwexer> does anyone have an external bluetooth adapter that does work?  anyone know their brand?
[03:40] <Rapture2k4> qwexer, I use a cheapo IOGear one and it works with every distro I've tried recently
[03:40] <noriyuki> qwexer, there are good options on deals2buy.com
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > qwexer
[03:40] <Rapture2k4> you can find it a walmart for $20-$30 USD
[03:41] <qwexer> rapture: ok I will check that out
[03:41] <qwexer> Jack: you too, thanks
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:41] <qwexer> now I have to figure out what I'm going to do with this crapo if I can't get it to work, sigh
[03:42] <Rapture2k4> so, I've got this 2GB flash drive and I want to install xbuntu on it and use it as a file server... I know this kills the lifespan of the device, but are there ways to minimize the damage?
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, nope, write cycles are limited
[03:43] <stickboy> whenever i hit backspace and there's nothing to delete, my laptop beeps and i'm not sure how to disable it. on 8.10 64bit.
[03:43] <Rapture2k4> Jack_Sparrow: Hmm, ok. Is there a way to boot from LiveCD and load settings from a flash drive? I.E. Like FreeNAS
[03:43] <zsquareplusc> Rapture2k4: put /tmp in RAM and avoid swap. the nslu2-linux wiki has some hints
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, yes, persistent mode
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[03:43] <aeolien> Hi! I'm looking for an HTML editor. Doesn't have to be WYSIWYG, but can be. Any ideas?
[03:44] <hansel> personally I use vi aeolien.  :P
[03:44] <zsquareplusc> aeolien: nvu
[03:44] <Rapture2k4> Jack_Sparrow: I've tried that, but after the 2nd reboot, it fails to load *buntu
[03:44] <jtaji> Rapture2k4: also putting /var/log/ in tmpfs (ramdisk) can help
[03:44] <hansel> aeolien: http://www.screem.org/
[03:44] <Overshee> can anybody help me with torrentflux
[03:44] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nano pwnz *
[03:44] <Rapture2k4> jtaji: kk, lemme write this stuff down
[03:44] <qwexer> aeolien: I like screem and bluefish myself
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, last time I used it.. I had to type persistent on the command line.  I have not done it in awhile
[03:45] <aeolien> Sweet, thanks guys!
[03:45] <neeto> Overshee: what's up with torrentflux?
[03:45] <Overshee> it wont work >.<
[03:45] <neeto>  /pm me
[03:45] <Rapture2k4> Jack_Sparrow: Well, I think my issue is that I'm using a BootCD to allow me to boot from the flash drive... not sure what's going wrong
[03:45] <hansel> CoUrPsE|DeAd: nano is an extremely basic text editor... vi can run circles around it all day.  :)
[03:45] <zsquareplusc> can in turn off the progress bar animation in the human there on intrepid?
[03:45] <gorlak> anyone had any experience with truecrypt and nfs togeather?
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, bootcd or livecd.. huge difference
[03:46] <Rapture2k4> Jack_Sparrow: I used a LiveCD to create a USB Startup disk (persistent) and then used a BootCD iso from PenDriveLinux to give me USB bootload capability
[03:47] <Rapture2k4> I have an old Dell that doesn't boot from USB :(
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, not surpriseed that didnt work
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I have several dells  6100's 640's etc
[03:48] <Fezzler> I have a 17.3MB PDF file that I archived with ZIP and it only shrunk it to 17.2MB.  How can I get this smaller in Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> 610
[03:48] <Rapture2k4> Jack_Sparrow: It does once... as in I can boot into it... if I reboot at all... it fails to load the kernel and I sit at an <(init)> prompt
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, Cant help with that..
[03:48] <Rapture2k4> I know... but I think I've got a solution ;)
[03:48] <hf2|ap> hi
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Fezzler, pdf's are already compressed
[03:49] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: compressed pdf already uses the same algorithm as zip that's why it isnt getting smaller. try to reduce embedded image quality (pdf2ps|ps2pfs / ghostscript)
[03:49] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: pdfedit might also do something
[03:50] <Rapture2k4> I'm thinking that if I partition my flashdrive as ext3 -noatime, and put grub on the MBR of it, I can install grub on a CD and boot that way
[03:50] <Rapture2k4> the BIOS sees the drive as a HDD, but won't boot from it.. so I don't need USB drivers per say
[03:50] <Rapture2k4> per se*
[03:51] <ThePub> as guessed, that didn't go so well ;)
[03:52] <raylu> Fezzler: also, try bzip2
[03:52] <insos_funky> :.....
[03:52] <raylu> Rapture2k4: noatime is a mount option, not an fs option
[03:52] <insos_funky> #cendrawasih
[03:53] <macjason0607> guys .. there a way to change my login name ?
[03:53] <Fezzler> Thanks, I'll try PDFEdit or move to my work laptop that has full Adobe Acrobat.  Just like to do it all in Ubuntu
[03:53]  * Rapture2k4 is a newbie, obviously.. please excuse the improper usages...
[03:53] <macjason0607> so my my terminal name will change with it
[03:53] <Fezzler> What is bzip2
[03:53] <raylu> macjason0607: you can change the name that appears in the terminal without changing your name
[03:53] <mindrape> Fezzler: a compression type
[03:53] <rccu> Fezzler: a compression program
[03:54] <user-05> chaqy
[03:54] <linux733t> raylu: How do you do that?
[03:54] <mindrape> Fezzler: to decompress a bz2 file just    tar -zxjf thefile.bz2 I believe.
[03:54] <raylu> linux733t: the terminal prompt is $PS1
[03:54] <guren> hey guys
[03:54] <raylu> linux733t: (usually)
[03:54] <guren> i am using irssi
[03:54]  * raylu claps for guren
[03:54] <guren> how do i change my nickname?
[03:54]  * mindrape facepalms for guren
[03:54] <raylu> guren: the same way you do for every other client
[03:54] <guren> its not really important but i wanted to ask for wifi help
[03:55] <shipz> With ubuntu, do I need to manually set a root password, or will just having a useraccount with a password suffice?
[03:55] <raylu> !root | shipz
[03:55] <DamnSL> hi
[03:55] <guren> meh
[03:55] <guren> i donno
[03:55] <raylu> guren: /nick
[03:55] <guren> ok but i was trying to get some help with my wifi
[03:55] <Fezzler> So much for PDFEdit, it can't even open the file
[03:55] <smokeymirror> oh thanks :D
[03:56] <DamnSL> Damn Small Linux is better than Ubuntu !
[03:56] <shipz> I'm an idiot
[03:56] <raylu> !better
[03:56] <shipz> You may dismember me now.
[03:56] <mindrape> shipz - Ubuntu is a quirky distro/community that doesn't believe (as part of our philosophy) in regular use of the root account.  It saves us from LOTS of headaches....  :)
[03:56] <Wicked> how do i manually set the refresh rate for my monitor?
[03:56] <raylu> shipz: not at all
[03:56] <mindrape> Wicked: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:56] <raylu> mindrape: he'd most likely have to generate one first
[03:56] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: recompressing the pdf with ghostscript might help
[03:56] <Wicked> mindrape, care to elaborate?
[03:57] <DiiPhantom> how can i regenerate the proftp.conf? i uninstalled it and deleted the /etc/proftpd/ folder
[03:57] <smokeymirror> ok so anyone here have a hp dv5 1000 series laptop?
[03:57] <raylu> DiiPhantom: why would you want to?
[03:57] <DiiPhantom> i want to reinstall it raylu
[03:57] <DiiPhantom> and i need the original conf
[03:57] <mindrape> !refresh
[03:57] <mindrape> ugg.
[03:57] <raylu> DiiPhantom: when you install it, it will install the conf
[03:57] <smokeymirror> my wireless card is recognized and all but i just can't seem to get it to connect to any networks
[03:57] <Fezzler> Got it, had to edit spaces out of file name for PDFEdit to open
[03:57] <DiiPhantom> thats what i though but its not
[03:58] <yixil> so a stupid ISP tech came here while only my mom was around, installed a new router, and didn't tell us the ip address or the pw
[03:58] <DiiPhantom> raylu,  thats what i though but its not
[03:58] <Rapture2k4> is there an easy way to install xbuntu on my flash drive while in Ubuntu?
[03:58] <mindrape> Wicked - basically in the monitor settings you set the refresh parms.
[03:58] <yixil> anybody know if there's a way I can find out what the ip address is?
[03:58] <Fezzler> Now to see options for shrinking.  I know Acrobat can
[03:58] <Rapture2k4> or do i need to burn a LiveCD?
[03:58] <Wicked> mindrape, hmm ok.
[03:58] <netyire> yixil: check the connection info
[03:58] <Decepticon> whats a noob friendly command line text editor
[03:58] <Decepticon> not vi
[03:58] <yixil> netyire: where?
[03:58] <mindrape> nano
[03:58] <sheep> Decepticon: nano
[03:58] <Rapture2k4> nano
[03:58] <Decepticon> vi is not noob friendly
[03:58] <yixil> sorry I'm a noob at this
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !editors
[03:58] <mindrape> yixil - pull open a browser and go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:58] <raylu> DiiPhantom: try sudo aptitude reinstall; i have to go
[03:58] <netyire> right click the image of two computers in the system tray and click connection info
[03:59] <mindrape> yixil - if you want your internet IP go to http://www.findmyip.com
[03:59] <netyire> look under default route
[03:59] <yixil> netyire: they changed the default ip of the router
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> yixil, Are you hardwired to it?
[03:59] <netyire> yixil: traceroute google.com
[03:59] <yixil> Jack_Sparrow: yeah
[03:59] <netyire> look at the first few hops
[03:59] <linux733t> Decepticon: Nano
[03:59] <Phai> Tes
[03:59] <Fezzler> what is Delinererize?
[04:00] <smokeymirror> anyone have any advice?
[04:00] <yixil> my brother-in-law figured this out somehow, it was <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:00] <mindrape> smokeymirror - brush your teeth.
[04:00] <smokeymirror> i know i know but that wont get my wireless enabled
[04:00] <yixil> so if att comes to your house and installs a random router, that might be where it is
[04:00] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: try typing sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[04:01] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: see if the interface is up
[04:01] <Cpudan80> anybody have a dell inspiron mini?
[04:01] <Rapture2k4> or even listed
[04:01] <linux733t> Cpudan80: I want one! :P
[04:02] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: you should see something like: iface <interface_name> inet dhcp
[04:02] <smokeymirror> it says auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> yixil, THis is all offtopic...
[04:02] <mindrape> smokeymirror      sudo lshw -C network
[04:02] <Rapture2k4> mindrape: out of my head
[04:03] <mindrape> smokeymirror - what kind of card is it?  Maybe you need Windows drivers instead of Linux?
[04:03] <linux733t> NDISWRAPPER
[04:03] <linux733t> ?
[04:03] <netyire> yixil: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <smokeymirror> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3d8d2f2b
[04:03] <mindrape> Easiest way to get Windows wireless drivers working in Linux http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5693578
[04:03] <dlx__> got a simple question, how can i give x-chat a specfic port with the addresse of the server? I tried it like this: <IP_ADDRESS>:86 but i think its not working.
[04:03] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: if you see *-network DISABLED followed by the name of your adapter, we might be able to work with it
[04:04] <Farajamo> Alright, anyone think they can help me with a dual-boot problem that I'm having with Ubuntu/XP?
[04:04] <sheep> dlx__: use a / instead of a :
[04:04] <dlx__> thx
[04:04] <smokeymirror> did you see the pastebin?
[04:04] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: yes
[04:04] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: only if you ask the real question :-)
[04:04] <smokeymirror> any ideas?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Farajamo, did you install xp first and single drive or dual drive system.. THe better the question, the better the answer
[04:05] <mindrape> smokeymirror: try to          sudo modprobe iwl4965
[04:05] <smokeymirror> ok one second
[04:05] <MrAnthrope> If I typed 'chmod init.d -r -w -x' would Ubuntu hide all the files in that folder for some reason?
[04:06] <smokeymirror> ok i did
[04:06] <mindrape> now sudo ifconfig
[04:06] <Cpudan80> MrAnthrope: no
[04:06] <mindrape> then sudo iwconfig
[04:06] <MrAnthrope> I was trying to read write and execute a file in that folder and I typed that and now the folder is completely empty.
[04:06] <Cpudan80> MrAnthrope: you'd need to be root to change stuff in init.d
[04:06] <MrAnthrope> I was root.
[04:06] <smokeymirror> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5d1ad6f8
[04:06] <Wicked> hmm ok...if my monitor says it should use 60mhz for the refresh rate...should i add 60 for both the veritcal and horizontal refresh lines in xorg.conf?
[04:07] <MrAnthrope> But only in the terminal. not in the window.
[04:07] <MrAnthrope> How do you become root in a window?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> MrAnthrope, sudo
[04:07] <MrAnthrope> That's through the terminal...
[04:07] <Cpudan80> Aragon: gksudo nautilus
[04:07] <mindrape> smokeymirror: okay... results of sudo iwconfig?
[04:07] <Cpudan80> Danger Danger Danger!
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[04:07] <Cpudan80> Not a good idea to run nautilus as root!
[04:07] <smokeymirror> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5d1ad6f8
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, agreed
[04:07] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: aye
[04:07] <mindrape> smokeymirror: iwconfig not ifconfig
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeymirror, Please post a description of the problem not just the link.
[04:08] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: dont want to go clicking and dragging all willy nilly
[04:08] <smokeymirror> oops
[04:08] <Wicked> welp gonna try it anyways.....brb
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, Thanks for giving the warning with that command.
[04:08] <Cpudan80> :-)
[04:08] <Cpudan80> I do what i can
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> appreciated
[04:08] <mindrape> smokeymirror - next do a                sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:08] <Rapture2k4> mindrape: what's that one do?
[04:08] <CiArA> gut mornin
[04:08] <CiArA> evertone
[04:09] <mindrape> it scans for open APs
[04:09] <smokeymirror> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6d439d7c i cannot get online with my wifi even though the card is registered
[04:09] <Rapture2k4> cool
[04:09] <CiArA> #
[04:09] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: you know much about enterprise level WPA wifi in ubuntu?
[04:09] <MrAnthrope> I can't get online with my dialup modem. :(
[04:09] <mindrape> okay smokeymirror - you dont have an ESSID set... do you know the AP name?
[04:09] <smokeymirror> smokeymirror@SmokeyMiRROR:~$ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:09] <smokeymirror> wlan0     No scan results
[04:09] <mindrape> smokeymirror: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid SETITHERE
[04:09] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /boot/config-2.6.24-22-generic?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeymirror, is it an open network or wep , wpa etc
[04:09] <CiArA> k
[04:09] <CiArA> k
[04:09] <CiArA> kk
[04:09] <CiArA> k
[04:09] <CiArA> kk
[04:09] <FloodBot2> CiArA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <smokeymirror> there's a open and a secure around me
[04:10] <mindrape> smokeymirror -alright.. if you get no scan results and you know the AP is broadcasting and available then you likely need a Windows driver for it... :(
[04:10] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: replace SETITHERE with the SSID your wifi router is using
[04:10] <Wicked> nope that did not fix it :(
[04:10] <Rapture2k4> he shouldn't have to.. i have the same adapter on my laptop
[04:10] <Rapture2k4> and it works fine
[04:11] <smokeymirror> was that code sudo iwlist wlan0 scan?
[04:11] <mindrape> Rapture2k4 - which driver do you use?
[04:11] <mindrape> yes smokeymirror.
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> In firefox 3, even after I've cleared the history things will still show up in the autocomplete of the location bar.  Where is that information stored, and can it be cleared as well?
[04:11] <netyire> tools -> clear private data?
[04:12] <mindrape> tonyyarusso: that autocomplete SHOULD only show bookmarked URLs...
[04:12] <smokeymirror> ok
[04:12] <Rapture2k4> mindrape: it's been ages since i've IRC'ed... and i'm using irssi, what's the /command to reply? lol
[04:12] <mindrape> reply?   /msg user hey there
[04:12] <mindrape> or what?
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> mindrape: ooooh, that may very well be the case.
[04:12] <Rapture2k4> aha
[04:12] <smokeymirror> so if its more than one word i do "Wifi Name"
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !coc
[04:13] <mindrape> yes smokeymirror
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> mindrape: Your'e absolutely right.  I had forgotten some of those things were bookmarked.
[04:13] <smokeymirror> this is what always happens when i try to set essid
[04:13] <smokeymirror> smokeymirror@SmokeyMiRROR:~$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "CCSF WiFi"
[04:13] <smokeymirror> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Resource temporarily unavailable.
[04:13] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: is your wifi router broadcasting? or simpler yet.. can you see if from another machine/os?
[04:13] <netyire> tonyyarusso: you can disable autocomplete from about:config
[04:13] <smokeymirror> yea
[04:13] <netyire> it's under browser.urlbar.maxRichResults
[04:14] <netyire> set to 0
[04:14] <smokeymirror> i can see it from other devices
[04:14] <Rapture2k4> ok
[04:14] <smokeymirror> even my psp :(
[04:14] <Rapture2k4> strange.. i think mindrape might by right
[04:14] <mindrape> Rapture2k4 - if yours is the exact same model maybe we can modprobe your module name?
[04:14] <Rapture2k4> check out ndiswrapper (google/wiki)
[04:14] <mindrape> can you check it in lsmod?
[04:14] <mindrape> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5693578   <--- makes ndiswrapper "easy"
[04:14] <CarlFK> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/Fahrplan/day_2008-12-30.en.html
[04:14] <CarlFK> whoops.
[04:15] <smokeymirror> huh?
[04:15] <smokeymirror> ndiswrapper doesn't work
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> netyire: also good to know - thanks
[04:16] <smokeymirror> the drivers for this wireless card is a 64bit
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeymirror, what chipset is in that card?
[04:16] <smokeymirror> and ndiswrapper doesn't do 64bit
[04:16] <shipz> This may sound dumb but, how do you tell if you are running 64bit or 32bit?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[04:16] <mindrape> shipz - I believe uname -a will tell
[04:16] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: what was the model number again? 4965?
[04:16] <smokeymirror> one sec
[04:16] <Davi_> you is girl ??
[04:16] <Wicked> bah. ok. nothing i do is changing my monitor refresh rate.
[04:16] <mindrape> Davi_ there are no girls on the internets.
[04:17] <netyire> Wicked: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:17] <netyire> look for horizontal and vertical refresh rates
[04:17] <Wicked> netyire, yea...your the second one to say that. and that didnt fix it either.
[04:17] <netyire> it'll be a range, like 60.0 - 120.0
[04:17] <smokeymirror> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m59e01c6d wifi card
[04:17] <mindrape> Wicked - CRT or LCD?
[04:17] <Wicked> netyire, yea i changed the ranges both to 60
[04:17] <Wicked> no dice
[04:17] <Wicked> ldc
[04:17] <netyire> still at 50?
[04:17] <mindrape> Wicked - you dont set LCD refresh rates...
[04:17] <Rapture2k4> hrm
[04:17] <mindrape> its 60 by default.
[04:18] <mindrape> CRTs you can bump them up to like 85 hz and whatnot.
[04:18] <Wicked> mindrape, well ubuntu set it to 50 and its making everything blurry and look like shit
[04:18] <mindrape> hrrmmm.
[04:18] <mindrape> I'd google the model number and see what the recommended v/hsync rates are for xorg.conf
[04:18] <mindrape> odd that it would be 50... never heard of it that low.
[04:18] <netyire> Wicked: hmm, have you restarted xorg?
[04:18] <shipz> That worked...thanks
[04:19] <netyire> ctl+alt+backspace
[04:19] <Wicked> i know they are. and i set them to it...still nothing
[04:19] <Wicked> netyire, yes.
[04:19] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: silly question, but is the wifi card on?
[04:19] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /boot/config-2.6.24-22-generic?
[04:19] <netyire> hmm, possibly the driver?
[04:19] <smokeymirror> well i dont know
[04:19] <mindrape> Wicked - what is your resolution set to?  Is the whole screen blurry or just text?
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeymirror, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011104
[04:19] <smokeymirror> it only has a touch button
[04:19] <Rapture2k4> you using a laptop, right?
[04:19] <Wicked> mindrape, just test. and the colors are off
[04:19] <Farajamo> Anyone think they can help me with a boot problem?
[04:19] <smokeymirror> the touch button doesn't work and i have no way to find out how to turn it on
[04:20] <Wicked> *text
[04:20] <mindrape> Wicked - do you use an nVidia or ATI card?
[04:20] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: um... maybe a <FN> + Function key combo? like FN+F8
[04:20] <bullgard4> Farajamo: Please put a specific question here. Your question as put is not smart.
[04:20] <Wicked> mindrape, brand spanking new msi nvidia 260...litterly put it in a hour ago
[04:20] <smokeymirror> fn + f8 is brightnestt
[04:21] <smokeymirror> i tried all the fn + fkeys
[04:21] <mindrape> Wicked - do you have a System -> Administration -> nVidia X Server Settings option?
[04:21] <MrAnthrope> Can anyone think of a reason why Ubuntu would load my sound card drivers sometimes and not others?
[04:21] <grayhane> cannot mount usb drive after upgrading to 8.10
[04:21] <MrAnthrope> Sometimes when I start up I have sound. Sometimes I don't.
[04:21] <Farajamo> When I boot into Ubuntu (or at least try to) it boots straight into a blank white screen. Anyone know why?
[04:21] <Wicked> mindrape, i do not
[04:21] <netyire> MrAnthrope: hmm, it's probably not the drivers
[04:21] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: i take it you don't get an on-screen display for those options, right?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Farajamo, did you install xp first and single drive or dual drive system.. THe better the question, the better the answer
[04:22] <netyire> MrAnthrope: sound under ubuntu breaks down occasionally, when different programs try to access the soundcard directly
[04:22] <smokeymirror> nope
[04:22] <Wicked> mindrape, but i do have the nvidia-settings command via cli
[04:22] <MrAnthrope> Oh I see. So that's why it's seemingly random.
[04:22] <netyire> MrAnthrope: are you on 8.04?
[04:22] <MrAnthrope> 8.10
[04:22] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: did you see my question for you?
[04:23] <Farajamo> No, I installed Ubuntu first but use the XP boot menu because of problems I had with grub. And when you say dual drive system I'm assuming harddrives? It's one drive partitioned.
[04:23] <drone_> here's something kinda curious: I just installed the 64 bit flash plugin on ubuntu 8.10 but it wont work unless I run firefox as root
[04:23] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: Enterprise level wifi on ubuntu .... gives troubles about certs ... ?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Farajamo, sudo nvidia-xconfig from a terminal..
[04:23] <netyire> MrAnthrope: hmm, you can walk through the pulseaudio howto to make sure it's setup properly, or if that fails, use alsa with dmix
[04:23] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: mkay... well... best bet is to install ndiswrapper and download the drivers from intel
[04:23] <netyire> MrAnthrope: hold on, I'll link you
[04:23] <Farajamo> That's the thing, I cant' even get to a terminal
[04:23] <smokeymirror> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m44aad389 nm-tool results
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, not something I deal with...
[04:23] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: try CTRL+ALT+F1
[04:23] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: hrmm oh well
[04:23] <Farajamo> I did. No key commands work. I just get a blaring white screen.
[04:24] <Farajamo> If it helps, this happened only after I upgraded my computer.
[04:24] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: have you seen anybody else coming in with issues related to enterprise level wifi (with WPA) ?
[04:24] <netyire> MrAnthrope: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[04:24] <MrAnthrope> Thanks, netyire.
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Farajamo, YOu cant use the xp boot instead of grub
[04:24] <Rapture2k4> smokeymirror: you can get it by doing: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[04:24] <Wicked> bah. so mindrape i opened that up and wento the display configuration and set the resolution to 1920x1200 and the refresh to 60..hit apply and it still is blurry.
[04:24] <smokeymirror> ok
[04:24] <Farajamo> Well originally (before the upgrade) the xp boot menu was working fine.
[04:24] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: when you said grub gave you problems ... what do you mean?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, many have had issue with wpa as some chipsets dont have good support.
[04:24] <Wicked> i also tried setting the refresh to auto and hit apply....still is blurry :(
[04:24] <mindrape> Wicked - is there something on the monitor you can push to make it degauze?  Not sure if LCDs do that but used to be a common CRT issue...
[04:25] <Wicked> i do think so.
[04:25] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: yeah -- it all worked under HH, not sure what's up under Intrepid
[04:25] <Rapture2k4> Wicked: have you tried adjusting the temperature of the monitor to a higher/lower setting? (thru the buttons on the monitor)
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, I have several boxes on HH waiting for something I must have before upgrading
[04:25] <mindrape> Wicked - can you also check the connection points of the cable to make sure its all tightly fitted?
[04:25] <SaturnDriver> does anyone know if unicode characters show up in windows
[04:25] <dr_willis> You dont Degause LCD's :)
[04:26] <Farajamo> Well when I set up grub, Ubuntu booted fine, but when I tried to boot into XP I get an error akin to: ntfo.exe or something was missing and couldn't boot
[04:26] <Rapture2k4> Wicked: you'd be looking for color temperature
[04:26] <dr_willis> Farajamo,  ntldr was missing perhaps?
[04:26] <Wicked> Rapture2k4, yea. it has economy,text, and picture modes...it looks equally blurry.....only brighter or darker
[04:26] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: yeah
[04:26] <smokeymirror> :((
[04:26] <MrAnthrope> My more pressing problem is Ubuntu can't find my PCI dialup modem. I've been trying to get Ubuntu to find it for two days.
[04:26] <Wicked> mindrape, yea. everything looks nice and secure
[04:26] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: not good...
[04:27] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: did you defrag the partition before you partitioned it to install ubuntu?
[04:27] <Farajamo> Well I tried replacing the file but it didn't make a difference so I used the XP boot menu.
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MrAnthrope, Sounds like a winmodem
[04:27] <MrAnthrope> It is.
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[04:27] <dr_willis> MrAnthrope,  some winmodems have no support.. some do...
[04:27] <MrAnthrope> Stratitec IC56A agere
[04:27] <Rapture2k4> Wicked: I had this problem with a 9800 GTX... trying to remember how i fixed it..
[04:27] <MrAnthrope> Already done, ubottu.
[04:27] <MrAnthrope> ;)
[04:27] <Cpudan80> ubottu: is a robot
[04:27] <Farajamo> I installed Ubuntu first. So I had it installed, then split the harddrive in two, then installed XP on the empty partition
[04:27] <Cpudan80> oh
[04:27] <Cpudan80> hrm....
[04:27] <Cpudan80> But then what did you do
[04:27] <Cpudan80> You have to put grub back on
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, agreed
[04:28] <Farajamo> Oh, and the missing file was "NTOSKRNL.exe"
[04:28] <Wicked> Rapture2k4, ah ok. i upgraded today from my old bfgtech 7800 gt oc to this new geforce 260.....and its been a pain........
[04:28] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: this was immediately after installing XP?
[04:28] <fxhp> I just installed 8.10 and now my video is all messed up
[04:28] <MrAnthrope> It's an agere modem, which supposedly works. I just can't do it because I'm a total and complete Linux newb.
[04:28] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: As I understand it - you did
[04:28] <fxhp> I'm unable to run with nvidia drivers .
[04:28] <MrAnthrope> I have some drivers but I have no idea how to go about installing them.
[04:28] <Cpudan80> Partition --> Ubuntu --> XP --> ERROR
[04:28] <Cpudan80> Is that not right?
[04:29] <Farajamo> No. This happened immediately after upgrading my comp with new parts (thanks to Christmas). I dual-booted with the XP boot menu fine up until then.
[04:29] <syed_nawaz> when installing ubuntu, if there are partitions already in that system, then ubuntu displays the existing partition information, how does the installer get this information
[04:29] <Cpudan80> wait now
[04:29] <Cpudan80> That changes the ball game
[04:29] <Dante123> upgrade 8.04 to 8.10...all works fine except network manager says there is no connection....although there is and I am using it now.  What gives?
[04:29] <mindrape> syed_nawaz: probably read via sudo fdisk -l
[04:29] <Cpudan80> What new parts did you put in farj
[04:29] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: ^
[04:29] <Rapture2k4> Dante123: sounds like some nice wifi :D
[04:30] <wangjinqu> hello
[04:30] <Farajamo> Mobo, Video card, processor, and additional ram
[04:30] <syed_nawaz> mindrape, i am looking for the labels which would also be displayed about the partition.
[04:30] <Farajamo> And an extra harddrive
[04:30] <mindrape> syed_nawaz: sudo lshw -C storage
[04:30] <Cpudan80> Wait what?
[04:30] <Cpudan80> You replaced all that and expected XP to go along peachy fine?
[04:30] <Rapture2k4> Farajamo: .... wow man... this is gonna be fun... gotta figure out which drive has the bootloader installed on it
[04:30] <mindrape> mebbe?
[04:30] <MrAnthrope> lol
[04:30] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: XP will not boot after all those changes
[04:31] <Farajamo> cpudan80: surprisingly, XP gave me no error, I'm only having problems with Ubuntu
[04:31] <MrAnthrope> XP hates when you change hardware. I've corrupted XP like that before.
[04:31] <mindrape> syed_nawaz: dunno... could be a number of different places.  I'm pretty sure fdisk would be the spot to get all the details though via some command switches.
[04:31] <Farajamo> cpudan80: I'm in XP right now
[04:31] <Cpudan80> o_O
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Farajamo, Why did it take you this long to answer my question about single or dual drive etc
[04:31] <linuxman410> anyone here using a dlink kvm switch
[04:31] <Rapture2k4> i think drugs
[04:31] <Cpudan80> Now Im really confused
[04:31] <wangjinqu> haha   i have only one OS the ubuntu
[04:31] <Farajamo> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry, I'm not sure what you meant by it
[04:31] <Cpudan80> So the only problem is that you can't boot to ubuntu Farajamo ?
[04:31] <Farajamo> cpudan80: yes
[04:31] <syed_nawaz> mindrape, can the information be obtained from the /proc
[04:32] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: Well after changing all that ...
[04:32] <Cpudan80> its no wonder why it wouldnt work
[04:32] <Cpudan80> You basically built a new computer
[04:32] <Rapture2k4> anyone know if it is possible to install Xbuntu on a flashdrive from inside Ubuntu via apt-get?
[04:32] <Farajamo> cpudan80: more or less, yeah
[04:32] <Farajamo> cpudan80: I don't see why that would affect me booting, though
[04:32] <kakalto1> I have an ISA SB16 sound card. I get the ubuntu sound at the login screen, but after this there is no sound, the system says it cannot find a volume control gstreamer plugin and/or device. I can't access volume controls in alsamixer without specifying "alsamixer -c 0" at which point it gives me volume controls. How can I fix all this, get the system to recognise my sound card and 'just work' ?
[04:33] <MrAnthrope> Farajamo: This is what I would do. I would change all my hardware back to what it was and then only replace the pieces one at a time with the new christmas stuff.
[04:33] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: ok so you boot ubuntu and get a white screen?
[04:33] <Farajamo> cpudan80: Yep.
[04:33] <Cpudan80> ok...
[04:33] <Cpudan80> so that means it is working off the correct HDD
[04:33] <Cpudan80> in theory...
[04:33] <Farajamo> MrAnthrope: Jeez, that would be a lot of work. Would I need new parts then?
[04:33] <roy_polos> fg
[04:33] <roy_polos> ghf
[04:33] <Rapture2k4> Cpudan80: he could have multiple boot loaders..
[04:33] <Cpudan80> what does your XP boot.ini file look like?
[04:33] <Cpudan80> pastebin it somewhere
[04:34] <Cpudan80> !pastebin | Farajamo
[04:34] <syed_nawaz> mindrape, does the installer uses fdisk to get the information about the existing partition of a system.
[04:34] <MrAnthrope> Maybe one of your new parts isn't Linux-compatible.
[04:34] <Cpudan80> highly unlikely
[04:34] <mlester> hey how do you get moonlight working in firefox I can't find anything through google
[04:34] <Rapture2k4> ya
[04:34] <Farajamo> cpudan80: Sorry, I'm new to IRC and I have no idea how to pastebin. I rarely use IRC. Also, I can't seem to remember how to get to boot.ini, how embarassing
[04:34] <Katangawise> Hi all! How can I share my folder to another network users, please?
[04:34] <fxhp> Upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10...nvidia driver messed up.  Anyone have any tips?
[04:34] <Cpudan80> ehhhh errr
[04:34] <Rapture2k4> C:\Windows\Boot.ini
[04:34] <fxhp> Katangawise: google smb
[04:35] <^paradox^> when is the next release of ubuntu scheduled to come out? i mean how long before update manager gets it, notifies me?
[04:35] <Chaorain> I used NTFS Configuration tool to mount some internal hard drives but I reformated them and now the old icons wont go away
[04:35] <Rapture2k4> or maybe it's Windows\system32\boot.ini
[04:35] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: just go to pastebin.ca and paste the text from the file in the box - then tell us the link here
[04:35] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /boot/config-2.6.24-22-generic?
[04:35] <linux733t> ATI is good for linux.
[04:35] <Katangawise> fxhp, smb?! Thanks!:)
[04:35] <Daliang> i want to install ubuntu8.10 into a USB (1G fat32) whai should i do?
[04:35] <Cpudan80> ^paradox^: april
[04:35] <linux733t> ATU has a llinux suite that supports Nvidia cards
[04:35] <fxhp> ^paradox^ Every 6 months there is a release
[04:35] <Rapture2k4> Daliang: get a bigger USB drive
[04:35] <Chaorain> I'm actually useing Mythbuntu
[04:35] <^paradox^> april huh?
[04:35] <Cpudan80> yep
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Daliang, 1 gig and full ubuntu.. wont work
[04:36] <fxhp> ^paradox^ : latest release was 8.10, sooo that is 2008, oct... 6 months from that date
[04:36] <^paradox^> wasnt the last one this past june?
[04:36] <Cpudan80> no
[04:36] <syed_nawaz> how does the ubuntu installer detects the existing partition information during installation.
[04:36] <Cpudan80> october
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !releases
[04:36] <Rapture2k4> Daliang: Ubuntu will need about 4-5GB install
[04:36] <fxhp> Upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10...nvidia driver messed up.  Anyone have any tips?
[04:36] <MrAnthrope> Yea, 1 gig is not enough.
[04:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[04:36] <Cpudan80> fxhp: did you rerun nvidia-xconfig ?
[04:36] <MrAnthrope> I'm using nvidia on 8.10. Don't they all use the same drivers?
[04:36] <^paradox^> if it was released in oct 2008 how come im still on 8.04?
[04:37] <Cpudan80> Because you didnt upgrade?
[04:37] <Daliang> Rapture2k4: thank you i konw now,is there any method i can try with the 1G usb
[04:37] <Cpudan80> The upgrade manager wont tell you about it by default
[04:37] <Chaorain> um any help with ntfs config tool?
[04:37] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: http://pastebin.ca/1296173
[04:37] <Cpudan80> !upgrade | ^paradox^
[04:37] <MrAnthrope> I just bought a 4 gig USB flash drive for 30 bucks.
[04:37] <COTOCO> olá
[04:37] <MrAnthrope> They're not that expensive.
[04:37] <^paradox^> wait a minute
[04:37] <Daliang> Jack_Sparrow:o,that's a pity,that's the only usb i have now
[04:37] <COTOCO> brasil
[04:37] <COTOCO> brasil
[04:37] <COTOCO> brasil
[04:37] <FloodBot2> COTOCO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: umm
[04:38] <^paradox^> update manager told me about my 1st update by default
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > COTOCO
[04:38] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: I don't think...... that that boot.ini file .... is valid
[04:38] <linuxman410> i bought a 8gig flash drive for less than 30 on ebay
[04:38] <Cpudan80> ^paradox^: things changed since HH was a long term service release
[04:38] <Cpudan80> at least thats my understanding
[04:38] <Overshee> i bought an 8gig for $18
[04:38] <Overshee> like a month ago
[04:38] <kakalto1> I have an ISA SB16 sound card. I get the ubuntu sound at the login screen, but after this there is no sound, the system says it cannot find a volume control gstreamer plugin and/or device. I can't access volume controls in alsamixer without specifying "alsamixer -c 0" at which point it gives me volume controls. How can I fix all this, get the system to recognise my sound card and 'just work' ?
[04:38] <kakalto1> (17:33:03
[04:39] <mlester> hey how do you get moonlight working in firefox I can't find anything through google
[04:39] <^paradox^> do i need to upgrade?
[04:39] <MrAnthrope> I bought a 1tb usb flash drive for two half pence.
[04:39] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: Well it works, interestingly enough. The K:\ drive is right because I had Ubuntu first, so XP assigned my drive to K:\ and the "ubuntu.bin" I did through a guide and I am not very familiar with it
[04:39] <fxhp> Cpudan80: no help, I think I have an issue with old drive left on the computer
[04:39] <COTOCO> os servers do brasil acabaram todos...
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > COTOCO
[04:39] <COTOCO> Jack_Sparrow ?
[04:40] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: system --> prefs --> sound
[04:40] <Chaorain> is there a command to search inside all the man pages?
[04:40] <Rapture2k4> Farajamo: easiest way to fix this is to go into your bios and change the order of your hard drives until it works.
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> COTOCO, /j #ubuntu-br
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> COTOCO, This is english only channel
[04:40] <Cpudan80> Chaorain: aprop I think
[04:40] <WebcamWonder> Chaorain: man -k IIRC
[04:40] <greenleaf> Question:  Is it common for Ubuntu 8.10 to refuse to unmount a USB hard drive even when there are no operations being performed on it?
[04:40] <COTOCO> Jack_Sparrow big shit
[04:40] <Cpudan80> Chaorain: man -k searchTermHere also works
[04:40] <Farajamo> Rapture2k4: I don't believe it's a booting problem, but a problem with Ubuntu itself.
[04:41] <Chaorain> man-k works thanks
[04:41] <Farajamo> Rapture2k4: I get the loading message from Ubuntu (so it's working) but then, BLAMMO, white screen.
[04:41] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: You really should switch to grub
[04:41] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: do you ever see the ubuntu screen at all?
[04:41] <WebcamWonder> greenleaf: Depends on what you mean by operation. Even though no read/write might be performed, a file on the stick might actually be kept open by any program which could theoretically prevent an unmount
[04:41] <Fezzler> I can't reduce this PDF.  17MB.  UGH.  Seems like the fellow scanned all the pages as art.
[04:41] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: Well I see the loading bar and the logo, if that's what you mean
[04:42] <quantumkenny> I just want to say to anyone that will listen:  thank you for Ubuntu, I love it, it's wonderful
[04:42] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: so it gets all the way through that - and then you see the white?
[04:42] <Cpudan80> well
[04:42] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: Yep. And when I try to get to a terminal nothing happens
[04:42] <Cpudan80> when you do ctrl+alt+F1 nothing happens?
[04:42] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: Correct. Just stays white.
[04:43] <Cpudan80> hrmmmm
[04:43] <WebcamWonder> CTRL+ALT+F1 during the usplash should drop you to text during the initial boot
[04:43] <Cpudan80> Jack_Sparrow: now we finally get the full story...
[04:43] <greenleaf> WebcamWonder: yesterday I mounted a USB hard drive, did ls on the root of that drive, and then tried to unmount it, and was informed that it could not unmount
[04:43] <Cpudan80> Interesting problem now...
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Cpudan80, sometimes it takes awhile
[04:43] <\Kira> how can I change a command priority?
[04:43] <WebcamWonder> greenleaf: It might be b/c your terminal was actually sitting in the directory you wanted to mount
[04:44] <\Kira> and what is realtime scheduling?
[04:44] <Rapture2k4> anyone know if it is possible to use apt-get to install xbuntu on a drive? i'm in Ubuntu
[04:44] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: Yeah thats a good point, can you do ctrl+alt+f1 immediately when the thing splash shows up to get a full log of boot actions?
[04:44] <Cpudan80> \Kira: nice
[04:44] <Cpudan80> !nice
[04:44] <\Kira> Cpudan80: the command nice?
[04:44] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: I sure as hell can try and get back to you on that.
[04:44] <Cpudan80> yep
[04:44] <\Kira> thanks
[04:44] <greenleaf> WebcamWonder: I checked that.  It wasn't.  it was in the directory above it
[04:44] <Dante123> Rapture2k4 not using wifi....ethernet cable
[04:44] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: If you get to the white - try all the F keys <= 7
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Rapture2k4, you can add xubuntu desktop to your cuprrent install, but you cant apt-get it to a differnets drive
[04:45] <WebcamWonder> greenleaf: Next time run the lsof command to see the open files, and run a grep on it... to find the applications that have open files on the USB stick
[04:45] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: I usually do, but I'll go through everything I can think of. I'll be back in a few
[04:45] <\Kira> Cpudan80: would I have to be root to do this? Since it could crash the system?
[04:45] <^paradox^> ok so i didnt get this cause its not long term support?
[04:45] <Cpudan80> \Kira: ehhh no I dont think so
[04:45] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Cpudan80: CTRL+ALT+F1 during the usplash should drop you to text during the initial boot (Sorry forgot to put your names in :))
[04:45] <Farajamo> Okay, I will try this.
[04:45] <Cpudan80> \Kira: you have to be the owner of the process I think
[04:45] <greenleaf> WebcamWonder: I tried that, too.  Nothing was using any files in that filesystem.  i've got to go to bed now.  I'll try working on it again tomorow
[04:46] <WebcamWonder> ^paradox^: Yes
[04:46] <^paradox^> they said its not a good idea to skip ubuntu versions so what version is coming out in april?
[04:46] <\Kira> Cpudan80: yes, but If I was to run a huge proccess and set it max nice, wouldnt it interfear with other users or even crash the system? Kinda like a denial of service attack?
[04:46] <firmfriend> hey i m unable to install my modem could u please help?
[04:46] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: there has the same problems.
[04:46] <WebcamWonder> !jaunty | ^paradox^
[04:47] <mindrape> \Kira it could significantly impact performance, yes.
[04:47] <\Kira> mindrape: what about crashes?
[04:47] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: yes but nice limits the values you can use
[04:47] <mindrape> \Kira - some system processes can't be re-nice'd though so in general you oughta be relatively safe.
[04:47] <\Kira> mindrape: cool, thanks
[04:47] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: certain things will be give higher priority anywa
[04:47] <Cpudan80> right
[04:47] <^paradox^> so what do i do? get 8.10 anyways to be safe and not skip a version?
[04:47] <Cpudan80> what mindrape said
[04:48] <Things> Hi, i am dual booting ubuntu and windows, but is there any way to change the order of the boot list?
[04:48] <WebcamWonder> ^paradox^: You can wait out till the next LTS
[04:48] <mindrape> ^paradox^: depends on what you want out of your system....
[04:48] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: sorry, not the same problem, but also a problem: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: could not get/set settings from/on resource
[04:48] <mindrape> ^paradox^: if you like being on the bleeding edge and helping to find bugs then go for +1
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Things, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:48] <mindrape> ^paradox^: if you like a VERY stable environment go with the LTS.
[04:48] <\Kira> Things: edit your boot.list file? Just a guess
[04:48] <Things> Ahh thanks
[04:48] <mindrape> ^paradox^: if you want something in between go w Intrepid.  :)
[04:48] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: Right you need to change the settings from system --> prefs --> sound
[04:48] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: you're aware I'm the one with the ISA sb16 card sound issues?
[04:48] <Rapture2k4> thanx for all the help everyone
[04:48] <\Kira> Things: sorry, Jack_Sparrow had the right file
[04:48] <^paradox^> all i want is for my pc to run properly and have the latest fixes updates
[04:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Things, move the entry up or set the entry you want as the default
[04:48] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: change what settings?
[04:49] <mindrape> ^paradox^: 8.04 or 8.10 oughta be your best bet.
[04:49] <Rapture2k4> i'll probably be back for help with Samba... cuz I can't understand simple english wikis
[04:49] <Things> Okay
[04:49] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: You'll have to play with it
[04:49] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: when I try to change any of them, that error I just said comes up
[04:49] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: Most likely the default mixer track setting
[04:49] <kakalto1> (when I click 'test')
[04:49] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: it can't get a default mixer
[04:49] <Cpudan80> why not?
[04:49] <Cpudan80> What does it do?
[04:50] <scott_> hey, does Samba deamon requre the Cups?
[04:50] <Cpudan80> no...
[04:50] <^paradox^> mindrape: so youre saying 8.10 is kinda like a beta?
[04:50] <Cpudan80> if you want to print with it it does
[04:50] <mindrape> ^paradox^: nah... its just not AS stable.
[04:50] <Cpudan80> ^paradox^: no
[04:50] <mindrape> ^paradox^: if you were running a production server I'd probably go w 8.04
[04:50] <mindrape> for a desktop 8.10 is just peachy
[04:51] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: okay, from the task tray icon, I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." From preferences->sound, when I test, I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: could not get/set settings from/on resource"
[04:51] <^paradox^> nah im not a production server
[04:51] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: right but you should still be able to change the settings...
[04:51] <kakalto1> when using alsamixer from the console, I must use "alsamixer -c 0"and then it supplies mixer volume thing
[04:51] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: Switch all the things to ALSA
[04:51] <Cpudan80> in the gui
[04:51] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: done. now what?
[04:52] <Cpudan80> push test
[04:52] <gorlak> i run 8.04 on my server, simply for the lts and so i wont have to upgrade for a while, set it up and let it go
[04:52] <gorlak> just tinker with it from time to time
[04:52] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: did you read what I said? For the third time: TEST button comes up with a box that says "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: could not get/set settings from/on resource"
[04:53] <Farajamo> Okay, I'm back. It didn't work out. I managed to get to the terminal during the loading screen, it showed reading boot files, starting all the processes, etc. But then once it finished it went to the white screen again where I was stuck.
[04:53] <Cpudan80> and that happened with the ALSA setting?
[04:53] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: ^
[04:53] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: Yes.
[04:53] <Cpudan80> The setting should read
[04:53] <Cpudan80> "ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture"
[04:53] <^paradox^> it just got confusing is all. i was under the assumption that each 6month release was a stable one
[04:53] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: I'm not a useless noob.
[04:54] <Cpudan80> not the ones that say "Intel .... (ALSA)"
[04:54] <Cpudan80> here I can take a screenshot
[04:54] <mac2020> I am attempting to use ubuntu server 8.10 as a router between two private networks I have assigned static ips to both interfaces.  I've tried a few commands with iptables and route but nothing seems to be getting it to start forwarding traffic - any tips?
[04:54] <Cpudan80> seeing as I have the same audio car
[04:54] <Cpudan80> card
[04:54] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: sound blaster 16 ISA card?
[04:54] <WebcamWonder> ^paradox^: It is a stable release each 6 month. However, LTS is more stable than your stable release, if you understand what I mean :)
[04:54] <fxhp> I just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now my nvidia drivers don't work... Any suggestions?
[04:55] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: ehh no...
[04:55] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: It didn't work out. I managed to get to the terminal during the loading screen, it showed reading boot files, starting all the processes, etc. But then once it finished it went to the white screen again where I was stuck.
[04:55] <Cpudan80> somebody had an intel ICH card..
[04:55]  * Cpudan80 is confused
[04:55] <Cpudan80> anyway
[04:55] <WebcamWonder> ^paradox^: And it would be supported with fixes for a longer time (until next LTS)
[04:55] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: You seem to be getting a little confused there, yes.
[04:55] <Cpudan80> I'll post the screenshot in case it helps
[04:55] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: unless you get the same output when clickign "test", I doubt it will
[04:55] <^paradox^> well im still pretty new to linux. is my best bet just to wait until april?
[04:56] <^paradox^> will i be notified of that one?
[04:56] <WebcamWonder> ^paradox^: Depends on your settings in update-manager. If you have notification on LTS, then you will be notified on the next LTS only
[04:56] <Chaorain> I can't figure out how to unmount an internalll hard drive I mounted with ntfs configuration tool. any help?
[04:56] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8179/screenshotsoundpreferenqa4.png
[04:57] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: you didnt getting any failed lines?
[04:57] <mdmkolbe> I've got a few thousand image files (jpg, png, etc) that I need to preview in order to find the images I'm after (these are pulled from a disk recovery).  What good image preview apps does Ubuntu have what won't keep me waiting for the previews to be generated (I can visually scan dozons a second) and won't eat up all my ram (I only have 1GB)?
[04:57] <nickrud> Chaorain, sudo umount /path/to/mouinpoint
[04:57] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: Nope
[04:57] <Cpudan80> hmm
[04:57] <kakalto1> Cpudan80: I have no default mixer track.
[04:57] <WebcamWonder> mdmkolbe: Nautilus has a built-in preview feature... if you want to go with that one
[04:57] <Cpudan80> kakalto1: hrm...
[04:58] <nickrud> mdmkolbe, I'd say nautilus also, it thumbnails very quickly
[04:58] <Chaorain> command unmount not found?
[04:58] <nickrud> Chaorain, umount , not unmount
[04:58] <Chaorain> oh
[04:58] <MrAnthrope> I also read 'unmount', heh.
[04:58] <mdmkolbe> WebcamWonder: that is what I was using, but it thumbnaled to slow and eated up my ram until the machine started swapping
[04:59] <nickrud> one more example of human brain pattern recognition error ;;)
[04:59] <MrAnthrope> Yeah I have lots of those.
[04:59] <MrAnthrope> lol
[04:59] <WebcamWonder> mdmkolbe: Ouch...
[04:59] <WebcamWonder> mdmkolbe: Well, I personally use digiKam to organize my photos... which thumbnails, etc. everything for you
[04:59] <nickrud> mdmkolbe, give gthumb a try, it's pretty quick also.
[04:59] <Chaorain> that fixed it but now I still have the folder there in Thunar File Manager
[05:00] <^paradox^> ok well im looking at update managers settings
[05:00] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: Id say that your video card is doing something odd
[05:00] <scott_> Hey all..  I have a samba question
[05:00] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: how to get around it...
[05:00] <WebcamWonder> mdmkolbe: Yeah, gThumb would be a nicer option in your case too
[05:00] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: can you SSH to the machine?
[05:00] <johnny__> hello
[05:00] <^paradox^> it is set to long term support
[05:00] <liza0> for a system that has a athlon x2 4800 and 3GB ram which version of ubuntu do you guys receommend  32 bit or 64 bit ?
[05:00] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: Youd have to have setup SSH beforehand
[05:00] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: I have no experience with SSH'ing so you'd have to help me along there
[05:00] <nickrud> Chaorain, yeah, the tool creates a mount point, you'd have to delete it (or leave it for next use)
[05:00] <^paradox^> how often do lts versions get released?
[05:00] <nickrud> ^paradox^, 3 years
[05:01] <nbeebo> would there be any difference in download speed if i download all files on deluge same time instead of 5?
[05:01] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: So I guess that's a "no".
[05:01] <Chaorain> ok how do I delete a mount point
[05:01] <^paradox^> ah ok
[05:01] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[05:01] <nickrud> 2 years?
[05:01]  * mdmkolbe goes and tries gthumb
[05:01] <johnny__> :^)
[05:01] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: And it doesn't work with the recovery option of the kernel either?
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> liza0: i'd recommned 64-bit
[05:02] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: I actually haven't tried that
[05:02] <nickrud> ^paradox^, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146
[05:02] <mors> hi. is there a command that can be used to get a list of stations that are currently connected to my AP .. using wireless tools maybe
[05:02] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Nor have I used it before. Anything I should know?
[05:02] <liza0> ok
[05:02] <Crash0werride> .
[05:02] <onetinsoldier> mors: AP?
[05:02] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: do you see a thing about selecting boot options when you boot up?
[05:02] <mindrape> mors - needs to be done at the AP not local.
[05:02] <johnny__> anyone know how to fix the audio on an acer aspire one ?
[05:02] <mindrape> mors - your router can likely show you a client table
[05:02] <johnny__> hum.
[05:02] <onetinsoldier> what is AP?
[05:02] <Cpudan80> maybe press esc or spacebar or something ?
[05:02] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: Yeah
[05:02] <mindrape> access point
[05:02] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Nothing much... you should be given a list of otpions you want to perform, you can either do any of them, or skip the list
[05:02] <onetinsoldier> ahhh, thanks
[05:03] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: press that and choose an older kernel
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> thanks mindrape
[05:03] <Cpudan80> See if that works
[05:03] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: WebcamWonder: Okay I'll try that, brb.
[05:03] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: I believe his Ubuntu hasn't actually booted properly once... then he would only have 1 kernel
[05:03] <mindrape> mors - technically you can sniff the wireless traffic and find out the MAC addresses of connected users...  could be difficult if you are in an area w a cluster of APs though.
[05:03] <Cpudan80> Well no
[05:03] <mors> mindrape: ah.. i thought if i put my wireless card into some kinda monitor mode, there might be utilities to look at current traffic and figure out the sta list.. thanks
[05:03] <Cpudan80> He had ubuntu before
[05:04] <Cpudan80> before he tinkered with the guts of his computer
[05:04] <mindrape> mors - yeah, you can do that... more difficult.
[05:04] <mors> yep. i thought there might be some util to do that. will log into the ap and check. thanks
[05:04] <mindrape> mors - easiest to just login to the router and get a client table.
[05:04] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80:  Wait, he tinkered with his PC... Anyone involved changing of video cards?
[05:04] <mors> yep
[05:04] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: yes - he swapped the vid card
[05:04] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: but he cant get to a terminal to rerun the nvidia-xconfig
[05:04] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: And did he happen to have the propietary drivers enabled before he did the swap?
[05:04] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: hang on
[05:05] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: ^
[05:05] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: we'll have to ask him :-)
[05:05] <Chaorain> um how do I delete the mount points?
[05:05] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: ;)
[05:05] <Farajamo> I switched to a different brand. I went from nVidia to ATI so the drivers are invalid I'm assuming
[05:05] <mindrape> /etc/fstab Chaorain
[05:05] <Cpudan80> oh god
[05:05]  * Cpudan80 dies
[05:05] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: And you had the official nVidia drivers enabled?
[05:05] <demdem> does anyone know a free compiler and how to install things on linux? sorry it's been at least ten years since i last used linux
[05:05] <nickrud> Chaorain, its the same as any other dir:  rmdir /path/to/dir ; if it's owned by root, sudo rmdir /path/to/dir
[05:05] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Or were you running on the crappy Vesa?
[05:06] <mindrape> demdem - sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:06] <sherl0ck> demdem, gcc
[05:06] <Chaorain> OH
[05:06] <Chaorain> it makes sense now
[05:06] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: essentially, did you select the proprietary driver for nvidia from the restricted driver thing that popped up
[05:06] <SonofC4> Im on a live cd and tryin to burn an iso onto my secondary drive and it keeps telling me the disk is full but its blank
[05:06] <Chaorain> thanks a ton this has been buging me for weeks
[05:06] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: I can't really remember. I did this a while ago.
[05:06] <demdem> minderape: thanks
[05:06] <mindrape> np
[05:07] <Farajamo> Cpudan80: I believe so, but I might have also went and downloaded drivers. Fuzzy memory
[05:07] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Well, if you had fancy graphics turned on, that would be the problem right there
[05:07] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: Im willing to bet it was enabled
[05:07] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Oh. Why?
[05:07] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: and the solution is .......
[05:07] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: Yes, and nVidia drivers are attempting to load on an ATI card
[05:07] <kckc> hello
[05:07] <Farajamo> Doh!
[05:07] <MrAnthrope> lol
[05:07] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: because its loading invalid drivers for your card
[05:07] <mindrape> hi kckc
[05:07] <PUNISHER> Hello everybody!
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> hi
[05:07] <johnny__> hello back to you kckc
[05:07] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: So what can I do to fix that?
[05:08] <PUNISHER> how are you?)
[05:08] <johnny__> how are you doing PUNISHER
[05:08] <^paradox^> maybe i better not get 8.10 after all. its saying on the site geforce and a few other graphics cards are having problems. my box has geforce 6200
[05:08] <Cpudan80> hopefully WebcamWonder will shed some light on that Farajamo
[05:08] <johnny__> hum
[05:08] <WebcamWonder> demdem: gcc can help you compile things. However, debian packages allow you to install precompiled applications for your distribution and platform
[05:08] <mindrape> we are all doing great, hello and hi to all... this is a support channel... if you wanna just chat head over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:08] <MrAnthrope> I have a geforce 5500 and 8.10 works.
[05:08] <subone> Whats the deal with Vuze? did they go corporate or something? Is it safe to use?
[05:08] <johnny__> I love GCC just like ANSI C ..
[05:08] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Let me try to google the options on the recovery menu
[05:08] <Ubuntu_Cookies> hi
[05:08] <johnny__> lol
[05:08] <nickrud> ^paradox^, in case you missed my self correction, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 : 2 years
[05:08] <^paradox^> 3d acceleration?
[05:08] <PUNISHER> johnny__: I'm okay. Has been come in to my work =)
[05:09] <kckc> I have a toshiba a205 laptop, which has a AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter, but its not detected by ifconfig or iwconfig (or present in the networking gui). I do see it in the lspci -v list though. Any ideas?
[05:09] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Okay, thanks
[05:09] <Cpudan80> Well
[05:09] <solid_liq> !ping
[05:09] <Ubuntu_Cookies> i have a toshiba satilite
[05:09] <MrAnthrope> vuze aka Azureus?
[05:09] <PUNISHER> johnny__: and you?
[05:09] <sherl0ck> Hey, I tried installing 8.10 on a 2004 G4 iBook (PowerPC). It installed fine, but after the yaBoot, the screen goes inverse with white background and black text. After that, the screen goes black and nothing shows up.
[05:09] <MrAnthrope> I used it for months after it became Vuze. But I'm on dialup now so I can't P2P.
[05:09] <Cpudan80> I'll let WebcamWonder take it from here Farajamo
[05:09] <Ubuntu_Cookies> but i need some help intallling ubuntu
[05:09] <Cpudan80> Farajamo: good luck
[05:09] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /boot/config-2.6.24-22-generic?
[05:09] <Cpudan80> Im off
[05:09] <nickrud> !laptop | kckc (check for your machine there, it may have info that helps)
[05:09] <johnny__> I'm doing OK PUNISHER.
[05:09] <Cpudan80> night all
[05:09] <sherl0ck> kckc, hey modprobe ath_pci
[05:10] <Farajamo> CpuDan80: Heh, thanks.  God I hate the PC speakers. how do i turn them off and have the audio jack working ? can anyone toss me a text link ?
[05:11] <Fezzler>  their is no Macromedia Director/Lingo equivalent in Linux yet, is there?
[05:11] <Ubuntu_Cookies> I have a sony vaio that is about 5 years old
[05:11] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: I can't help google find me any information... Coudl you tell me the list of toptions that you get after you go into the recovery mode?
[05:11] <nickrud> bullgard4, useful for starting a custom kernel compilation
[05:11] <Ubuntu_Cookies> can i put linux on it?
[05:11] <kckc> nickrud: thanks, i'll check there
[05:11] <Chaorain> last question for now. Is there a way to make an internal disk appear with the external disks in Thunar File Manager?
[05:11] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Sure, I'll be back in a bit.
[05:11] <nickrud> kckc, I think someone who already knew gave you the answer above :)
[05:11] <WebcamWonder> Chaorain: #xubuntu would be your best bet
[05:11] <Fezzler> I want to write simple game for my kids.  Like a 5-6 level mario-type
[05:11] <nickrud> Ubuntu_Cookies, probably, and since it's old the support will be either excellent or terrible :)
[05:12] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: it should just give you a prompt in recovery mode
[05:12] <johnny__> use GCC and/or rapidq Fezzler
[05:12] <Ubuntu_Cookies> johnny__> dont swear (the code forbids it)
[05:12] <sherl0ck> kckc, compile madwifi from source
[05:12] <sherl0ck> svn version
[05:12] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: he should just be able to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from there
[05:12] <johnny__> you have to be kidding me ? Ubuntu_Cookies
[05:12] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: Yeah... but I don't remmeber the options at all... completely blank here
[05:12] <nickrud> johnny__, think disney G rated here
[05:12] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: And google won't turn up anything either
[05:12] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: what do you mean all the options?
[05:12] <Fezzler> johnny__: how about Squeaky?
[05:12] <Cpudan80> you mean all the options in xserver-xorg ?
[05:13] <Cpudan80> for reconfigure
[05:13] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: You are presented with a list of options when you into recovery mode, xserver-reconfigure, dpkg, etc...
[05:13] <Ubuntu_Cookies> johnny__ no im not kidding i like the cide
[05:13] <johnny__> thanks Nickrud i will keep down now.
[05:13] <Ubuntu_Cookies> code*
[05:13] <bullgard4> nickrud: Ok. Thank you for explaining. --  So it is only an informational file to inform human beings?
[05:13] <johnny__> ok I see your point ubunut_cookies
[05:13] <Cpudan80> WebcamWonder: oh right right I forgot about that
[05:13] <shredder12> I have downloaded a patch file and i m supposed to "apply the patch file" now.. how do i do it..
[05:13] <Cpudan80> Well anyway
	thanks
[05:13] <Cpudan80> he's in good hands
[05:13] <nickrud> bullgard4, I'm 99% sure of that. I've never seen it used anywhere
[05:13] <Cpudan80> Goodnight - goodluck
[05:13] <cellofellow> I have a TSSTcorp TS-L632D CD/DVD±RW drive on my laptop. It works OK for Data CDs, but from day one has been slow with Audio CDs and now doesn't read DVDs at all.
[05:13] <subone> MrAnthrope: did you have any issues installing it?
[05:13] <WebcamWonder> Cpudan80: Hardly... I am a noob by all standards :P
[05:14] <Cpudan80> :-)
[05:14] <johnny__> hum wow
[05:14] <WebcamWonder> !compile | shredder12
[05:14] <MrAnthrope> Installing what?
[05:14] <^paradox^> i guess ill just have to ask if anyone using pny technolgies nvidia geforce 6200 agp has had problems with it under 8.10
[05:14] <bullgard4> nickrud: Ok.
[05:14] <subone> Vuze
[05:14] <MrAnthrope> I didn't use it on Linux.
[05:14] <Fezzler> johnny__: What is GCC?
[05:14] <subone> oh
[05:14] <WebcamWonder> !gcc | Fezzler
[05:14] <johnny__> how do you turn the pc speakers off on a ACER aspire one netbook running ubunut ?
[05:14] <onetinsoldier> Fezzler: it stand for the Gnu C Compiler
[05:14] <Rabbitbunny> I'm having a problem with java. I can't view a java applet. http://www.javatester.org/enabled.html reports that java is not enabled, ff3 reports that it is. how do I procede?
[05:14] <johnny__> GCC is a C++ compiler
[05:15] <shredder12> ubottu: its a diff file..
[05:15] <pist0l-fish> hi all. I just installed 8.10 and I have no sound- I used to use 8.04 and had sound. I have an Intel ICH5 (which is supported by alsa) and I have turned all the controls up using alsamixer (and unmuted everything). Any suggestions?
[05:15] <Fezzler> Oh, yea, write it in C.
[05:15] <cellofellow> Is there some way to diagnose problems in a DVD drive?
[05:15] <johnny__> rapid-Q is a windows XP / Linux GUI compiler.
[05:15] <johnny__> but I like C more.
[05:15] <johnny__> ya
[05:15] <johnny__> :P
[05:15] <onetinsoldier> Fezzler: there is g++ for C++ compiling
[05:15] <Fezzler> I'll use Ruby before C/C++
[05:15] <kckc> sherl0ck, I actually just finished compiling madwifi from source, with no change in the problem
[05:16] <johnny__> Ruby how do you use ruby ?
[05:16] <Fezzler> johnny__: ?
[05:16] <kckc> sherl0ck, (as per the comment on this page http://www.linlap.com/wiki/Toshiba+Satellite+A205)
[05:16] <WebcamWonder> johnny__: It is a scripting language like python, etc.
[05:16] <Rabbitbunny> johnny__: #ruby
[05:17] <johnny__> ok, Ruby and python. fail I say.
[05:17] <johnny__> maybe in time i will have more love for #ruby
[05:17] <nickrud> relative merits of programming languages fit #ubuntu-offtopic better, not really ubuntu support related
[05:17] <johnny__> one day.
[05:18] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: http://pastebin.ca/1296194
[05:18] <^paradox^> well if im gonna get 8.10 ill do it later today. 0:17 here in sc and im too tired to screw with it ;-)
[05:18] <Chaorain> nobody is answering in #Xubuntu so. Is there a way to make an internal disk appear with the external disks in Thunar File Manager?
[05:18] <Fezzler> sounds like Macromedia Director and Lingo path may be easier (than learning C++)
[05:18] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: pastebin.ca is always down for me... weird problem :S
[05:18] <Rabbitbunny> I'm having a problem with java. I can't view a java applet. http://www.javatester.org/enabled.html reports that java is not enabled, ff3 reports that it is. how do I procede?
[05:18] <Rabbitbunny> WebcamWonder: rafb.net/paste
[05:18] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, root, xfix
[05:18] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Never mind, got it... Proxied
[05:19] <chestazan> hiii
[05:19] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Alrighty
[05:19] <johnny__> Alix Jones has his own shoutcast network.. lol.
[05:19] <mac2020> my ubuntu server has no resolve.conf file - is this normal?
[05:19] <nickrud> Rabbitbunny, what version of java does firefox say it has?
[05:19] <Fezzler> I just want a little character to run in and out of five rooms and have arm go up and down
[05:19] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: Its actually a diff file.. Its actually a patch file for ethernet driver stuff.. now the article i read asked me to "apply the patch: patch<>" i tried the patch command and it gave me some hunk errors.. i think i m not able to use the command in the right format.. help please..
[05:19] <johnny__> epic.
[05:19] <nickrud> mac2020, it should have resolv.conf
[05:19] <mac2020> ahh no e
[05:19] <ardchoille> How do I change the resolution of tty1?
[05:19] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: patch -p0 < pathtofile is thee syntax of the command IIRC
[05:20] <empiric> hi all any one use open source ALfreco DMS
[05:20] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Hold on
[05:20] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Sure
[05:20] <mac2020> okay my resolv.conf file is there
[05:20] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: kk let me try it..
[05:20] <johnny__> can someone help me with the PC speaker problem with Ubunut? I'm just looking to turn off the built in speakers and not the audio jack.
[05:21] <webBuilder> hello to everyone, my question more application oriented than ubuntu, but you guys are the best so please give me an answer.  I'm building image web Application. I'm storing the images outside tomcat and calling it via java servlet when ever I need to display the image/s to the user can linux handle this if I have multiple requests
[05:21] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Ok, I believe there are 2 ways of doing this... xfix or dropping to a root shell and modifying xorg.conf by hand. I have never done this before, so this is new territory for me as well... Although I have broken my xorg.conf many times
[05:21] <mac2020> johnny__: you can do that by blacklist the module that makes your pc speaker run - one sec
[05:21] <^paradox^> times kinda dragging by today. it feels like it oughta e 3:00 instead of 0:22
[05:22] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: it says that the "#1 hunk failed at 942"
[05:22] <D3RGPS31> i accidentally removed ubuntu desktop with tasksel :/ after reinstalled the desktop, will i have to fish through to find out anything else it uninstalled?
[05:22] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: Are you sure the patch is against the correct source?
[05:22] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: So I should just select xfix and work my way from there?
[05:22] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: you have to have a framebuffer driver set up. it probably already is. then you pass an option to the kernel like so...  vga=794 ...the value you use determines what the resolution is in consle tty's.
[05:22] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Hold on, let me ask someone here who might know this stuff
[05:22] <mac2020> johnny__:http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/blacklist-your-pc-speaker/
[05:23] <nickrud> D3RGPS31, no, the desktop is only a list of packages to install; removing the list doesn't remove the items in the list
[05:23] <mac2020> johnny__: that should get you the results you want
[05:23] <earthmeLon> Hey guys, I just bought a new soundcard and I got it working (with OSS >_<) Im trying to figure out how to adjust the volume, though, from my panel.  I've tried changing the device to everything, but nothing adjusts the volume of the new sound card.  Is there something I need to restart so it will register the new card in the list?
[05:23] <WebcamWonder> Guys, will xfix in the recovery mode rebuild the xorg.conf and drop back to the open-source drivers?
[05:23] <webBuilder> hello to everyone, my question more application oriented than ubuntu, but you guys are the best so please give me an answer.  I'm building image web Application. I'm storing the images outside tomcat and calling it via java servlet when ever I need to display the image/s to the user/s. Can linux handle this if I have multiple requests
[05:23] <webBuilder> sorry about my english
[05:23] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier: Ah, yeah, it's the "vga" bit that I forgot. Thank you :)
[05:23] <johnny__> cool
[05:23] <webBuilder> I made the correction
[05:23] <johnny__> thank you
[05:23] <webBuilder> anyone please :(
[05:23] <mac2020> johnny__: my pleasure
[05:24] <nickrud> webBuilder, maybe asking on #tomcat ?
[05:24] <shredder12> ya, i think so.. it was about resolving some ethernet problem with dell vostro 1510 in Ubuntu hardy.. i link to the patch was given in the article.. so i think.. that its correct..
[05:24] <webBuilder> nickrud okay I'll try
[05:24] <webBuilder> thank you
[05:24] <webBuilder> but they do not know about linux
[05:24] <nickrud> oh
[05:24] <nickrud> the philistines ;)
[05:25] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: As per this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=899594 try the xfix first. You can go ahead and later modify the xorg.conf if it doesn't work
[05:25] <Mageiriki-me-bas> i did something and i lost my network connection icon from my gnome panel in ubuntu 8.10 :( how can i get it back?
[05:25] <Rabbitbunny> nickrud: Good thought path.  Installing java now.
[05:25] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: your welcome.
[05:25] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: ya, i think so.. it was about resolving some ethernet problem with dell vostro 1510 in Ubuntu hardy.. i link to the patch was given in the article.. so i think.. that its correct..
[05:25] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Okay. By the way man, thanks for all the help so far. I'm having such a weird problem that it's tough to find help.
[05:25] <nickrud> Rabbitbunny, be sure to install sun-java6-plugin
[05:25] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: Could you give me the path to the patch?
[05:25] <Soliloquial> anyone know why I might get a SESSION3_INITIALIZATION_FAILED bsod when trying to install windows in a virtual machine?
[05:26] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Ahh, no problems. Glad to help :)
[05:26] <johnny__> BRB
[05:26] <johnny__> bye
[05:26] <nickrud> Soliloquial, hm, I'd suggest finding a forum/channel that supports the virtuall machine; we don't do windows here :)
[05:26] <johnny__> I hope this works
[05:26] <WebcamWonder> Soliloquial: You would be better off asking in the channel dedicated to your virtual machine application
[05:26] <Kohlrak> Soliloquial: this is for linux, not windows. However, in a pm i might be able to help if you're willing to do some research =p
[05:27] <cellofellow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6460075
[05:27] <Mageiriki-me-bas> i did something and i lost my network connection icon from my gnome panel in ubuntu 8.10 :( how can i get it back?
[05:27] <cellofellow> Some help with that maybe? ^^^^^^^^
[05:27] <Chaorain> can someone explain how mount works? I know I need "mount -t ntfs 'device' /media/windows" but what do I put for the device?
[05:27] <nickrud> Mageiriki-me-bas, you still have internet connection?
[05:27] <Mageiriki-me-bas> nick, yes.
[05:28] <Kohlrak> Chaorain, have you tried man "mount"?
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> Chaorain: try   parted -l
[05:28] <cellofellow> Chaorain: try ntfs-3g instead too.
[05:28] <mdmkolbe> WebcamWonder, nitridr: fyi, gthumb didn't work (it wanted to pre-calculated all the thumbs), but it looks like gqview will do just fine
[05:28] <Mageiriki-me-bas> nickrud, but there is not the icon, so i cannot choose in wich wireless i want to connect. So i have a problem :(
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> Chaorain: then see if you see a partition that's listed as ntfs
[05:28] <nickrud> Chaorain, the device would be in /dev ; it's a pointer to the physical partition.  sudo fdisk -l will list all the partitions and give the /dev/<path> to use
[05:28] <nickrud> Mageiriki-me-bas, ok, do right click panel, add to panel, and add notification area
[05:29] <WebcamWonder> mdmkolbe: Ahh... Sorry, I never knew it wanted to pre-calc. I used to use f-spot and then have only recently switched to digiKam
[05:29] <Chaorain> WOW connection lagged
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> Chaorain: bah.. nvm, the parted command doesn't work..  try --> fdisk -l
[05:30] <WebcamWonder> onetinsoldier: Don't forget to sudo that :)
[05:30] <addicted68098> Hi, I am wondering if switching from a Pentium 4 1.67ghz processor with 512mb memory and 64mb video to an Intel Atom 330 w/ intel board will be a speed increase or decrease, thanks
[05:30] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: i think its sudo fdisk -l  :)
[05:30] <Geoff_> Hey, can someone help me with installing GRUB? I already have Linux and Windows installed, but I need to restore GRUB. My first hard drive got messed up and I needed to reformat it, but I can't figure out how to install GRUB to boot my Linux stuff on my second hard drive.
[05:30] <Chaorain> ok thanks
[05:30] <WebcamWonder> addicted68098: ##hardware
[05:30] <onetinsoldier> ok!
[05:30] <sloopy> addicted68098, probly slight decrease
[05:31] <shredder12> WebcamWonder:   http://www.martinhenze.de/extern/r8168-8.006.00.hardy.diff this is the patch to the patchfile.. and this is the article i referred...   http://www.martinhenze.de/2008/05/24/ubuntu-linux-on-dell-vostro-1510/
[05:31] <nickrud> !grub | Geoff_
[05:32] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: And the directory you are sitting in, has the r8168.h right?
[05:32] <Mageiriki-me-bas> nickrud, thank you very very much!
[05:32] <onetinsoldier> Chaorain: ok,,   sudo parted -l   ...does work
[05:32] <nickrud> Mageiriki-me-bas, you're welcome :)
[05:32] <Ward1983> my friend and i both use dyndns, we want to make a littel script: PC1 checks every few minutes if PC2 is still online, if its not online, PC1 starts a ddclient and takes over the hostname (1:1 copy of the webservers)
[05:33] <Sindacious> Is there anyone here that successfully upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 with no issues?
[05:33] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: yes it has
[05:33] <Ward1983> anyone know if something like that allready exists?
[05:33] <Rabbitbunny> while i'm in this channel, get some dolt to work on launchpad. what retard figured that forcing people to memorize a login to report errors was a great idea? I don't care to help with your errors... I want mine fixed. get it?
[05:33] <Ward1983> i mean well be having the same content on out webservers
[05:33] <Ward1983> we want more redundancy that way
[05:33] <helloyo> good to see linux is improving nicely while i've been away
[05:34] <peepsalot> i don't understand my network manager.  when I plug in to wired connection it shows the wired connection radio button selected, but the wireless network I was previously connected to is also still selected.  is it connected to both at the same time?
[05:34] <eseven73> Ward1983: maybe a bash script with rsync on a cron would do something like that , although dont ask me how :)
[05:34] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: Try patch -p1 < path.to.file
[05:34] <Ward1983> eseven73, the syncing is not the problem
[05:34] <Ward1983> eseven73, the dyndns part is the problem
[05:34] <WebcamWonder> peepsalot: It is possible to be connected to multiple networks at the same time
[05:34] <eseven73> ah
[05:35] <WebcamWonder> !pm | rzta
[05:35] <peepsalot> WebcamWonder, well i'm trying to test the performance of my wired connection, so I need to be sure that I'm only connected to that
[05:35] <peepsalot> WebcamWonder, well i'm trying to test the performance of my wired connection, so I need to be sure that I'm only connected to that
[05:35] <Ward1983> so PC1 checks if PC2 (other location / ISP) is online, if not, PC1 takes over the dyndns domain that was first assigned to the ip of PC2
[05:35] <Ward1983> and that also the other way around
[05:35] <WebcamWonder> peepsalot: You can disconnect from the wireless if you want
[05:36] <darkrubicant> evening
[05:36] <darkrubicant> having a problem with sudo apt-get update
[05:37] <smkn_> woy................................
[05:37] <eseven73> yep Ward1983 that would require some sort of bash script over SSH, that pings PC2 every so many mins, if no ping responce, pc1 kicks things in gear, but you'd prolly have to crawl around the bash forums for the script :(
[05:37] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: same error.. "ing file r8168.h #1 failed at 942"
[05:37] <nickrud> darkrubicant, what problem?
[05:37] <darkrubicant> failed to fetch problem
[05:37] <darkrubicant> I'll post in a paste bin what it's saying
[05:37] <darkrubicant> been doing this for days
[05:37] <eseven73> Ward1983: try #Bash?
[05:37]  * nickrud backspaces
[05:37] <darkrubicant> !pastebin
[05:37] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: Ok, open the r8168.h in gedit/leafpad
[05:37] <Ward1983> eseven73, will look aroudn first this probably allready exists
[05:38] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: And tell me what do you see at line number 943
[05:38] <nickrud> Ward1983, or maybe a php script that passes info back and forth
[05:38] <darkrubicant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/95674/
[05:38] <eseven73> Ward1983: sounds like a common enough script, shouldnt have too much probs finding it, ask in #bash too :)
[05:38] <darkrubicant> there's the paste of what's happening, it's failing to open two sources of index files, and it tells me to do sudo apt-get update again to fix the problem, but it doesn't fix it.
[05:39] <nickrud> darkrubicant, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <Ward1983> nickrud, i'm pretty sure php cannot execure programs
[05:39] <darkrubicant> ok
[05:39] <Ward1983> nickrud, ddclient is a program
[05:39] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: this is line 943 	CSIAR_Addr_Mask = 0x0fff,
[05:39] <shredder12> WebcamWonder:  and this one is 942 "CSIAR_ByteEn_shift = 12,"
[05:40] <onetinsoldier> darkrubicant: you've been having that problem for days?
[05:40] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: Yup, that source is not the same as the one with which this patch was generated
[05:40] <nickrud> Ward1983, php is a scripting language, I do think it can call anything: http://us2.php.net/exec
[05:40] <jtaji> darkrubicant: your sources.list must be a mess, hardy, hardy backports, gutsy-backports, intrepid, wth
[05:40] <darkrubicant> yes
[05:40] <darkrubicant> hang on
[05:40] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier: vga=794 didn't work, neither did 791. I stopped doing this in Feisty because there was a bug that rendered its use ineffective. However now it seems that Ubuntu will scan when prsented with the wrong value and offer correct values
[05:40] <peepsalot> are there any ways to optimize samba performance?
[05:40] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: You can open up the patch file and see that it is completely different from what the patch file is expecting... that is why it is failing
[05:41] <darkrubicant> I know I changed some things because a post said to when updating some things, and i'm sure this is the problem now i'm not sure what to change back.
[05:41] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Success! I am typing this from Ubuntu
[05:41] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Congratulations!
[05:41] <ardchoille> This distro just keeps getting better :)
[05:41] <darkrubicant> here's the post of the pastebin
[05:41] <darkrubicant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/95676/
[05:41] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: Thanks for all the help! Now I just need to re-do all my drivers and monitor configuration.
[05:41] <nickrud> darkrubicant, line 36, change ftp to http
[05:41] <Ward1983> nickrud, so i can start any program trough php? sounds like a very large potential security issue
[05:41] <darkrubicant> k
[05:42] <WebcamWonder> Farajamo: Haha. No problem. However, now that you have an ATI, you would need the ATI drivers and the ATI tools to configure everything, not nVidia :)
[05:42] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: hmmm, i see. there should be a list somewhere that shows what given value determines what a specific resolution will be
[05:42] <nickrud> darkrubicant, also line 43, check for others
[05:42] <tengulre> how to convert the .rle to .jpg ?
[05:42] <Farajamo> WebcamWonder: I see that now... Well, I'm off to enjoy. Thanks again. If I have anymore problems, I'll be back, don't worry.
[05:42] <darkrubicant> the other ones are good.
[05:43] <nickrud> Ward1983, yes: there are security options, read the link to exec for an exampel
[05:43] <Broly> anyone have an idea why ubuntu would shutdown while i was asleep?
[05:43] <darkrubicant> what do I need to type to alter this file?
[05:43] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier: sorted, 318 works now where 791 used to work (1280x1024)
[05:43] <darkrubicant> sudo gedit?
[05:43] <Ward1983> nickrud, im not gonna take those chances, php is just not made for this stuff
[05:43] <WebcamWonder> darkrubicant: gksu gedit
[05:43] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: Ya i can see.. but i have downloaded the latest version of realtek driver.. is it because of it..
[05:43] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: i mean because of the latest version
[05:43] <nickrud> darkrubicant, cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop (make a backup) then gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <ardchoille> onetinsoldier: when grub detects the wrong value, it will present you with a list of correct values :)
[05:44] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: Highly likely
[05:44] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: ahhh, i see. well, i wonder where these newer values can found, but glad you figured it out :-)
[05:44] <onetinsoldier> ardchoille: roger that.
[05:44] <nickrud> darkrubicant, a general rule: never use sudo with a gui app, always use gksu
[05:44] <shredder12> WebcamWonder: may be i should consult the writer of the article.. newaz.. thanks for ur help..
[05:44] <darkrubicant> why
[05:44] <WebcamWonder> shredder12: No problems. Glad to help
[05:44] <akahige1> due to hardware compatibilities with Intrepid, it looks like I'm going to have to revert to Hardy... is there a better way of doing this...?
[05:45] <WebcamWonder> darkrubicant: sudo is for terminal based applications. gksu is the graphical counterpart to that
[05:45] <jtaji> akahige1: besides reinstalling? not really
[05:45] <nickrud> darkrubicant, there's a possibility of writing config files in your home directory as root; it causes real issues sometimes
[05:45] <UndergroundZer0> hi all
[05:45] <darkrubicant> oh
[05:45] <darkrubicant> thanks nickrud
[05:45] <UndergroundZer0> Wanna ask q? please help
[05:45] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: are you certain you hardware incompatibility cannot be solved under the newer version of ubuntu?
[05:46] <akahige1> jtaji: so reformatting the file systems and going from there?
[05:46] <nickrud> darkrubicant, when you have some time, you should compare:   env | sort ; sudo env | sort; gksu env | sort
[05:46] <jtaji> UndergroundZer0: ask away
[05:46] <pentaside> I'm new to Linux and I want to learn more about terminal commands.  Anyone have a book or website recommendations?
[05:46] <UndergroundZer0> Can I load both server edition and Desktop which will integrate both
[05:46] <nickrud> UndergroundZer0, yes
[05:47] <UndergroundZer0> nickrud: how?
[05:47] <jtaji> pentaside: here are two to start you with ;) http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[05:47] <nickrud> UndergroundZer0, in fact, if you install the server, you can just:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get the full desktop
[05:47] <onetinsoldier> pentaside: http://linuxcommand.org/
[05:47] <Ubuntu_Cookies> cool
[05:47] <UndergroundZer0> yes
[05:47] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: I'm not sure about that. the prob is that xorg chews up >75% of the cpu. there are bugs filed, but no activity. I tried asking in the xorg channel if there's a possibility that it could be a kernel conflict, but no one responded
[05:47] <UndergroundZer0> nickrud
[05:47] <onetinsoldier> !terminal | pentaside
[05:47] <UndergroundZer0> i did that
[05:47] <darkrubicant> thanks fixed.
[05:47] <jtaji> UndergroundZer0: or alternatively, just install the desktop form the start, you can use all the same server apps, it's exactly the same
[05:48] <UndergroundZer0> Okai
[05:48] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: roger. sounds strange...upgrade to jaunty! hehe. j/k
[05:48] <soreau> ! audio
[05:48] <haggus99> I have a problem saving my alsa settings can someone help me out?
[05:48] <Ubuntu_Cookies> can you hack into ubuntu from command line (like in mac os x )
[05:48] <UndergroundZer0> does all the server tools like Mysql Php Apache tomcat mailserver ...etc come along with desktop edition
[05:48] <UndergroundZer0> ?
[05:48] <pentaside> Ok thanks guys.
[05:49] <WebcamWonder> UndergroundZer0: Yes... that are one and the same thing
[05:49] <WebcamWonder> UndergroundZer0: Yes... they *are one and the same thing
[05:49] <nickrud> UndergroundZer0, the only substantiall diff between them is the desktop installs the -generic kernel, while the server installs the -server kernel. I've never really compared them, so the I'm not sure of the differences. But both work fine with either
[05:49] <mindrape> UndergroundZer0: by default they aren't installed but it's as simple as sudo apt-get install <each>
[05:49] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: lol.  do you have any thoughts about the kernel theory?
[05:49] <UndergroundZer0> nickrud thank you so much and thank you guys
[05:49] <deniz_> im using intrepid ibex, how do i make all icons on desktop 75% of their size?
[05:49] <Ubuntu_Cookies> sh etc/rc/ passwd Usernamehere (hacking(change passwd) into mac from command line)
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> Ubuntu_Cookies: That is not hacking. That is simple password changing
[05:50] <mindrape> what WebcamWonder said...
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | Ubuntu_Cookies
[05:51] <Ubuntu_Cookies> !offtopic|mindrape
[05:51] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: i doubt i know enough to really give anything other than a guess. and i'd have to know your hardware to even do that. like everything, vid card, chipset model, and a number of other things. but even with that info i really doubt i could do anything except guess
[05:51] <huwenfeng> hi, i got a problem, i use ssh to login to a remote server, and if i did not input anything for a while, maybe 10 minutes,  when i input commands again, it will logout from the remote server.  it said somethig like : " connection closed by peer ....." .   anyone knows about this?
[05:51] <Ubuntu_Cookies> i do
[05:51] <mindrape> !abuse
[05:51] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: Idle timeout
[05:51] <huwenfeng> Ubuntu_Cookies: then ?
[05:52] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: This is the setting of SSH or the Shell?
[05:52] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: with that said.. it is possible to compile and install the newer 2.6.28 kernel yourself in Intrepid and see what that does for you
[05:52] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: I understand.  I'm just terribly confused by the fact that everything worked fine under hardy and went to the dogs after I upgraded to intrepid.  same probs with both the open and closed nvidia drivers
[05:52] <Ubuntu_Cookies> its happening to  one of my machines too (i need to debug it though)
[05:52] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: Should be SSH, hold on. Using OpenSSH/
[05:52] <error404notfound> how do I configure tcpwrapper in ubuntu?
[05:52] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: Should be SSH, hold on. Using OpenSSH?*
[05:53] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: YEs, OpenSSH
[05:53] <powertool08> haggus99: have you tried "alsactl store <card #>"
[05:53] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/03/keeping-ssh-sessions-alive/, let me find a more relevant link
[05:54] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: ok, upon hearing that you upgraded, my thought would be that you could try a fresh clean install with no 'major upgrade' involved and see what does for you. that could be the problem right there
[05:54] <eseven73> if i have like Vbox started, can i restart X and have vbox still active and i can come back to it ?
[05:54] <Ubuntu_Cookies> !<factoid>
[05:54] <eseven73> Not sure that was worded well, but meh :/
[05:54] <UndergroundZer0> one more thinng guys
[05:54] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: if that was true, would you say that things should function correctly running from the live cd?
[05:55] <UndergroundZer0> Is it possible to load IRC Shell on Ubuntu
[05:55] <Ubuntu_Cookies> Yes
[05:55] <aganthorp> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro 5,1? I have a couple questions
[05:55] <Ubuntu_Cookies> i am
[05:55] <Ubuntu_Cookies> its the one im using right now
[05:55] <zeno> Is there any way to automatically check if any packages you have installed do not have a 64 bit version?
[05:55] <aganthorp> how did you get your sound to work?
[05:55] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: that what i do. if i ever o a major upgrade and and it's all fine after the upgrade, then ok. but if there's any hint of an unsolvable issue, then i do a fresh clean install
[05:55] <UndergroundZer0> Is it possible to load IRC Shell on Ubuntu guys
[05:56] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: yes.. you have the same problem on the LiveCD?
[05:56] <mindrape> UndergroundZer0: what do you mean irc shell?  like an eggdrop?
[05:56] <UndergroundZer0> yes
[05:56] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: yes. same problem from the live cd
[05:56] <UndergroundZer0> Where you can run IRCD server and Eggdrop
[05:56] <mindrape> yeah, install eggdrop like any other program and use it...
[05:56] <Ubuntu_Cookies> >	how did you get your sound to work? (i re installed drivers for the Entire system and sound cards)
[05:56] <UndergroundZer0> Where you can run IRCD server and Eggdrop
[05:56] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: Here you go... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631302
[05:56] <eseven73> UndergroundZer0: easily
[05:56] <eseven73> ive done it
[05:56] <mindrape> UndergroundZer0: sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[05:57] <UndergroundZer0> okai
[05:57] <eseven73> unrealircd is in the repos too
[05:57] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: hmmm i see. well then.you could be right about something in Intrepid not liking your system
[05:57] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: OK, let me see it
[05:57] <haggus99> powertool08 yesit gives me this error alsactl: relocation error: alsactl: symbol snd_tlv_parse_dB_info, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[05:57] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: my assumption is that xorg is the culprit, but I was reading on /. about some graphics performance stuff in the new kernel and I thought "ah hah -- maybe it's a kernel thing and the xorg issue is just fallout"
[05:57] <eseven73> UndergroundZer0: theres a few ircd's in the repos
[05:57] <WebcamWonder> zeno: Most applications that are officially supported are available on all the platforms, unless otherwise restricted from obvious reasons
[05:58] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: could be. as i said, you could compile a custom 2.6.28 kenel and see what that does for you. i've done it. i can boot into 2.6.28 right now if i want to. but i like my fglrx drivers, and they don't have a version that works with 2.6.28 yet
[05:59] <zeno> WebcamWonder: i am using restricted drivers for nvidia and broadcom, also skype.  you know off top of head if they are 64?
[05:59] <johnnbstroud> back
[06:00] <WebcamWonder> zeno: I am on 64. All that you listed are available as far as I can see. Although in my defence, I am on hardy, and not intrepid
[06:00] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: got any idea how far away we are from the new kernel hitting the repos?
[06:00] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: Oh, is there a possibility that it is the gateway that decide to close the connection?
[06:01] <sloopy> !grub
[06:01] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: I doubt that... unless the gateway is misconfigured... idle connections still transmit a certain amount of packets
[06:01] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: i am inside a big Intranet, and i ssh to the outside server.
[06:01] <powertool08> haggus99: could you perhaps have two versions as the person in this post? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/278615 you can find the executables with "whereis alsactl"
[06:01] <sloopy> ubottu, thank you
[06:01] <WebcamWonder> zeno: But the version of the OS shouldn't be a problem. Those are officially supported packages/applications
[06:01] <johnnbstroud> how do you edit the menu.lst file in grub to show text with the splash screen ?
[06:02] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: I doubt that. It is more likely that the idle setting is kicking in
[06:02] <adityahaha> fuckin shit
[06:02] <Mageiriki-me-bas> i have a laptop and ubuntu 8.10 can't configure an atheros wifi card. what should i do?
[06:02] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: then must be the SSH Server, i ssh to my VM machine, the connection lasts for a very long time.
[06:02] <WebcamWonder> !language | adityahaha
[06:02] <mindrape> !vulgar
[06:02] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: no idea. i really don't really even know if they'll make 2.6.28 for intrepid. if they do, i can only guess that it would be a few months from now, pure guess
[06:02] <adityahaha> pardon
[06:02] <adityahaha> this is ma first time
[06:02] <akahige1> onetinsoldier: cool. thanks for the  advice
[06:02] <huwenfeng> WebcamWonder: Yes, maybe, can i config the ssh-client to send messages even if the connection is idle?
[06:03] <deniz_> is there a software alternative to totem for playing DVDs in repositories?
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: hi. do you think they'll ever upgrade to kernel 2.6.28  for intrepid? if they might do something like that, how far into the future do you think it might be? just a total guess
[06:03] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, morning... gonna be around a while?
[06:03] <nickrud> deniz_, vlc is popular
[06:03] <scunizi> deniz_, also mplayer
[06:03] <WebcamWonder> huwenfeng: As long as you properly configure the server/client to not timeout, you should be fine. But I suppose your method could be done as well
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> akahige1: ok, you're welcome and good luck
[06:04] <nickrud> onetinsoldier, very unlikely. they may chose to backport bits of it, but change kernels? Not likely at all
[06:04] <deniz_> r
[06:04] <michaelwoo>
[06:04] <deniz_> oops
[06:04] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: no, not really. getting to be bedtime here really
[06:05] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, that's pretty much what i figured. thanks
[06:05] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, ok i will show you in the morning...
[06:05] <k0tar3l> Is there a way to mass install every package possible in synaptic package manager?
[06:05] <sheena1> hello?  total newbie to the IRC thing..
[06:05] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: ok, sounds good :-)
[06:05] <onetinsoldier> and with that, i'm out. take care all
[06:05] <nickrud> k0tar3l, no, in fact many packages conflict with one another, and can't be installed at the same time.
[06:06] <sloopy> k0tar3l, this isnt a good idea, especially considering alot of packages conflict with each other
[06:06] <johnnbstroud> hello peoples :^D
[06:06] <k0tar3l> is there a way to ignore conflicting packages?
[06:06] <Jim_Raynor> hi
[06:06] <sheena1> im having sound issues. my speakers/sound works fine for youtube videos, and for both dvds and avi files, but will not play mp3 or m4a files (haven't got any other formats to try) using any player, including VLC (which plays everything else..)
[06:06] <sloopy> k0tar3l, deleting /usr/bin would be an easier way to hose your system...
[06:07] <Jim_Raynor> is there a way to recover a directory deleted using rm -R ?
[06:07] <scunizi> !mp3 | sheena1
[06:07] <sloopy> !undelete | Jim_Raynor
[06:07] <mindrape> Jim_Raynor - not easily... but yes.  It is possible.
[06:07] <nickrud> sloopy, I'm quoting that one to :)
[06:07] <nickrud> *too
[06:07] <sloopy> nickrud, quoting what?
[06:08] <nickrud> about deleting /usr/bin a simpler system destroyer
[06:08] <sloopy> nickrud, sure, i have seen many ways people can wreak havoc on a computer... that was just first in mind when i needed one...
[06:10] <soreau> ! audio
[06:11] <sheena1> so even if the computer won;t play the files, if i convert them to this OGG thing, then they'll play fine?
[06:11] <johnnbstroud> sheena1 use and/or install mencoder or something
[06:11] <sheena1> I already have the restricted formats thing.
[06:12] <sheena1> what is mencoder?
[06:12] <johnnbstroud> sudo apt-get install mencode
[06:12] <sheena1> it is a file converter?
[06:12] <johnnbstroud> it's a multi format encoder audio and video for ubunut
[06:13] <johnnbstroud> hum.
[06:13] <johnnbstroud> :|
[06:13] <haggus99> powertool08: I tried that renamed the file tried to save again still getting the same error
[06:13] <sheena1> i have Sound Converter. Will it do what i need to do?
[06:14] <aoeuid> I just installed intrepid onto an a acer netbook and there is no sound at all on skype, has anyone had a problem like this?
[06:14] <powertool08> haggus99: hmm, well I'm out of ideas, maybe if repeat your problem somebody else will know. Good luck
[06:14] <sfer23> sheena1: what are you trying to do? convert sound? soundconverter does just that.
[06:15] <sfer23> sheena1: although, soundkonverter has more choices
[06:15] <Jim_Raynor> damn... so, it's pretty much impossible?
[06:15] <sheena1> tada!!!! it works!!!
[06:15] <haggus99> powertool08: ok thx
[06:15] <sheena1> you guys are awsome!!!
[06:15] <sheena1> totally cool
[06:15] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-22-generic/.config?
[06:15] <mindrape> aoeuid: you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype to see if some of their Troubleshooting Skype section helps
[06:15] <sheena1> i have been trying to get a solution to this for weeks. Jeez. Thank you so much, everyone who contributed.. i got another one :)
[06:15] <deniz_> nickrud, scunizi, thx
[06:16] <sloopy> bullgard4, it is the config when that kernel was compiled
[06:16] <nickrud> bullgard4, it's the config file that is used for compiling the kernel. Copying over the config-* to that .config is the first step in modifying the kernel parameters for your custom kernel
[06:16] <sheena1> Is there a way to increase the volume? I'm not sure that my physical speakers are the limitation. When I have the software volume on high, and turn the computer volume as high as it goes, most things are still rather quiet. I suppose its possible my speakers just suck, but I thought maybe there's a setting somewhere that changes this?
[06:17] <bullgard4> sloopy: Can you explain to me what do you mean by 'config'?
[06:17] <mindrape> sheena1: sudo alsamixer          from a terminal
[06:17] <mindrape> sheena1 you can push all levels to the max there...
[06:18] <sloopy> bullgard4, when a kernel is compiled there are options for drivers/kernel options that need to be configured when the kernel is compiled, that file is the config for it, incase you need it for rolling your ownkernel
[06:19] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you very much for explaining.
[06:19] <sheena1> awsome. is there one of those for my webcam settings?
[06:19] <huwenfeng> mindrape: is there a possibility that i send the music of left to both the left and right channel?
[06:20] <mindrape> huwenfeng: never tried that... dunno.
[06:20] <huwenfeng> mindrape: my right earphone is broken.
[06:21] <bullgard4> sloopy: Thank you very much for explaing.
[06:21] <bullgard4> explaining
[06:21] <sloopy> bullgard4, np
[06:22] <sheena1> Is there a similar set of options (like alsamixer) that allows me to control the settings of my webcam?
[06:22] <mindrape> never had a webcam... dunno.  :(
[06:23] <sheena1> thanks mindrape. maybe google knows :)
[06:23] <mindrape> sheena1 - maybe sudo apt-get install camorama?
[06:24] <johnnbstroud> .o0(thinking about stuff)
[06:24] <linxer> Hi all..
[06:24] <johnnbstroud> hello linxer
[06:24] <johnnbstroud> :^)
[06:24] <linxer> is there a ubutnu version availbel for windows mobile (ppc) ?
[06:24] <johnnbstroud> linpus linxer
[06:24] <johnnbstroud> linpus
[06:25] <sheena1> i have camorama. but when i try to use Cheese to record from webcam, it doesn't have any settings. i'll play with it. thanks so much, everyone for all your help. I will never go back to windows, and it's nice to know I have somewhere to figure out the bugs :)
[06:25] <screamsayonara> what do i need to do to amarok to make it able to import the files from my ipod into my.. uh.. "collection".. it seems to be extracting them, and then says "couldnt organise ...files"
[06:25] <linxer> johnnbstroud: i will check it out thanks
[06:26] <sheena1> thanks everyone. good night/morning!
[06:26] <mindrape> screamsayonara: what filetype?  mp3 or jpg?
[06:26] <screamsayonara> mp3s
[06:26] <mindrape> screamsayonara: you can locate *.mp3
[06:26] <screamsayonara> whatever do you mean
[06:26] <screamsayonara> i can see and play the files off my ipod
[06:26] <mindrape> it's a command.    pull up a terminal and type              locate *.mp3 to see where they exist on your local filesystem if you dont know where they copied to.
[06:27] <screamsayonara> but i cant get em onto my harddrive, and i know it can be done cause i did it on my last ubuntu
[06:27] <screamsayonara> ok
[06:27] <screamsayonara> was i supposed to substitute something for the *?
[06:27] <mindrape> you may need to              sudo updatedb                if they were just recently copied as the "location" database won't have entries for 'em.
[06:27] <mindrape> nope... * is a wildcard... although you may need to *.MP3 as it may be case sensitive.
[06:28] <lanoxx> i just upgraded to the latest kubuntu 8.10 and kde 4.2 beta 2, most of my gtk apps look very strange now. firefox even lacks a lot of icons in the toolbar and the webdeveloper bar is broken
[06:28] <mindrape> lanoxx - may wanna ask in #kubuntu.
[06:29] <screamsayonara> no they havent copied to my harddrive
[06:29] <huwenfeng> Read from remote host xxxxxxxxxx: Connection reset by peer
[06:29] <huwenfeng> Connection to xxxxxxxx closed.
[06:29] <mindrape> screamsayonara: well if you use a tool like gtkpod I believe you can right click and save them locally.
[06:29] <mindrape> dont recall the exact context menu name but it is something like export.
[06:29] <huwenfeng> this is exactly what i got, when the connection closed!
[06:30] <huwenfeng> anyone knows how to solve this problem?
[06:30] <error404notfound> anyone who could tell me how can I use tcpwrappers on ubuntu in combincation with denyhosts?
[06:30] <mindrape> huwenfeng: what were you trying to do?  Your IRC client said that?
[06:30] <huwenfeng> no, my ssh connection said that
[06:31] <mindrape> error404notfound:  http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Workbench/2000-04-08.01.html
[06:31] <mindrape> its ancient but should still be relevant.
[06:31] <error404notfound> mindrape: lemme check
[06:31] <goodday324324> hello i just installed ubuntu first time i use linux, is it normal it takes more than 5  min to boot up on my acer aspire laptop ?
[06:31] <new> hjy
[06:31] <huwenfeng> goodday324324: no,
[06:31] <mindrape> goodday324324: should be a tad quicker than that I would think... maybe 2 mins?
[06:31] <powertool08> huwenfeng: I'd enable verbose debugging "-vvv" and maybe have it write to a logfile? It could give more clues as to what happens before the connection drops
[06:32] <huwenfeng> goodday324324: you must have some problem
[06:32] <goodday324324> it is very very slow starting up but once its started it runs fine
[06:32] <goodday324324> any ideas how to speed it up
[06:32] <huwenfeng> powertool08: Oh, you mean i should start the ssh connection like this: "ssh -p port -vvvv ip_addr"
[06:33] <jean_grey> hello
[06:33] <mindrape> goodday324324: I'd check /var/log/messages to see if there are any obvious issues in there and dmesg finally cat /var/log/boot
[06:33] <jean_grey> I need some help here..
[06:33] <powertool08> huwenfeng: yes but I think you can only have up to 3 v's
[06:33] <mindrape> goodday324324: there is also a tool called bootchart you can install which graphs the time to boot and bottlenecks...
[06:33] <jean_grey> who can help me!!!!
[06:33] <jars> hi all
[06:33] <william56> anyone know a way to boost sound above the maximum of the volume control and alsamixer?
[06:33] <mindrape> !ask | jean_grey
[06:33] <goodday324324> i also have another problem which issort ofconnected, if i insert anything in the usb, mouse , thumbdrive, etc it is not recognised by ubuntu, unless i restart with them connected
[06:34] <goodday324324> very frustrating using the thumbdrive with these long boot times !
[06:34] <mindrape> goodday324324: well you can manually mount them... we can get to that in a bit.
[06:34] <goodday324324> ok
[06:34] <goodday324324> so how do i find this log
[06:34] <powertool08> goodday324324: if you hit ctrl-alt-f1 during the boot splash it will switch back to showing you each step, just look for anything that stays for awhile before moving on
[06:34] <mindrape> check those logs I mentioned earlier...
[06:34] <mindrape> pull up a terminal
[06:34] <goodday324324> ok
[06:34] <Jim_Raynor> damn... they're gone
[06:34] <mindrape> type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:35] <mindrape> then type           cat /var/log/messages | pastebinit
[06:35] <mindrape> it will give you a URL... paste it in here.
[06:35] <mindrape> then do            dmesg | pastebinit        and give us the URL      and finally         cat /var/log/boot | pastebinit
[06:36] <GreedyB> Whats the best way to backup Ubuntu?
[06:36] <mindrape> !backup
[06:36] <GreedyB> thank you!
[06:36] <vavoysh> hi there. how can i access a vista partition so that i may backup files from either an ubuntu partition ont he machine or through a live CD?
[06:37] <mindrape> !mount
[06:37] <WebcamWonder> !gparted | vavoysh
[06:37] <vavoysh> thanks
[06:37] <gmathews> Hi, what application can I use to manage events/birhdays (like a diary with a reminder etc)
[06:37] <vavoysh> will that help me access the vista partition so that i may back up those files?
[06:38] <mindrape> vavoysh: I'd recommend using mount...
[06:38] <mindrape> vavoysh - you can find the partition by doing      sudo fdisk -l
[06:38] <vavoysh> m'kay
[06:38] <vavoysh> thanks
[06:38] <WebcamWonder> vavoysh: Sorry. I thought you said "resize a vista partition". Use mount mindrape is correct
[06:38] <vavoysh> ok
[06:38] <mindrape> vavoysh - then you can       cd /mnt          mkdir VISTA            sudo mount /dev/VISTAPARTITION /mnt/VISTA
[06:38] <sloopy> gmathews, evolution is a email/calender app
[06:38] <mindrape> vavoysh: you'll likely need to throw in -t ntfs to let it know its NTFS...
[06:38] <mindrape> but usually mount is pretty intelligent.
[06:39] <vavoysh> allright
[06:39] <sloopy> !iso
[06:39] <goodday324324> ok! here theyare :
[06:39] <goodday324324> http://pastebin.com/f5c328da0
[06:39] <goodday324324> http://pastebin.com/f566d32c7
[06:39] <vavoysh> thank you
[06:39] <gmathews> sloopy: Isnt there a program just dedicated to what I'm looking for ?
[06:39] <sloopy> gmathews, kontact does
[06:39] <WebcamWonder> gmathews: There is mozilla's ... something I forgot its name
[06:39] <Wicked> bah. i cannot get this blurriness/washed colors to go away....im pretty sure its got to do with my refresh rate...but no matter what i do it doesnt get better
[06:40] <mindrape> goodday324324: you have a TON of vc032x: I2c Bus Busy Wait 0 messages... this is likely the issue.
[06:40] <gmathews> WebcamWonder: under what type of program will it be listed ? - a scheduler perhaps?
[06:40] <WebcamWonder> gmathews: Hold on
[06:40] <LancerNZ>  /msg NickServ identify blKnt3
[06:40] <WorldBFree> anybody ever install or boot a ubuntu image directly from their hd?
[06:40] <gmathews> ahhahaa LancerNZ :P
[06:41] <WebcamWonder> LancerNZ: Not a space in the front :)
[06:41] <LancerNZ> ah
[06:41] <Gnea> LancerNZ: nice password
[06:41] <LancerNZ> thanks
[06:41] <goodday324324> mindrape:  what do you think is the problem one of the devices ^
[06:41] <mindrape> goodday324324: I found a post on an Ubuntu forum that seems to address your issue....
[06:41] <goodday324324> oh
[06:41] <WebcamWonder> gmathews: sunbird, it should be in the repos
[06:41] <mindrape> goodday324324: you need to pull up a terminal and sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:42] <gmathews> WebcamWonder: thanks :) gonna check it
[06:42] <mindrape> goodday324324: then at the BOTTOM of that file add this... blacklist gspca_vc032x
[06:42] <rccu> no gedit, use vim instead!
[06:42] <powertool08> +1 for vim
[06:42] <goodday324324> ok and what will thisdo
[06:42] <goodday324324> will thisfixmy usb
[06:42] <mindrape> goodday324324: it will make it stop trying to probe for that device which it clearly can't configure.
[06:42] <LancerNZ>  /msg NickServ help
[06:42] <samthetwohippman> WorldBFree:_ I havn't, but it can be done
[06:42] <mindrape> right now it just repeatedly tries to get it to work which bogs you down...
[06:42] <LancerNZ> #@$@#
[06:43] <WebcamWonder> LancerNZ: You are really having a bad day aren't you?
[06:43] <LancerNZ> yeah
[06:43] <mindrape> goodday324324: you have probably close to 80 entries for just that one module...
[06:43] <goodday324324> ok so should i use vim or gedit
[06:43] <powertool08> whoever mentioned bootchart earlier, where does it install too? "bootchart" in terminal doesn't work
[06:43] <WebcamWonder> goodday324324: use gedit...
[06:43] <mindrape> goodday324324: use whatever you want... gedit is going to be easiest for you.
[06:43] <powertool08> goodday324324: probably gedit
[06:43] <goodday324324> maybe its related to the problem i hadinstalling ubuntu it would halt at 90% concerning usb-storage module
[06:44] <LancerNZ> Okay - what's passwd as far as Nickserv is concerned?
[06:44] <mindrape> goodday324324: yup... maybe you had a USB device plugged in during installation and it kept an entry for it. For whatever reason it always looks for it now and you may not have it plugged in.
[06:44] <WebcamWonder> !register | LancerNZ
[06:45] <WebcamWonder> powertool08: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868189
[06:45] <LancerNZ> I have registered though
[06:45] <LancerNZ> I just want to run a /passwd command
[06:45] <powertool08> WebcamWonder: thanks
[06:45] <mindrape> LancerNZ: this is Ubuntu help.  If you want help registering your nick w the network then join #freenode for help.
[06:45] <xavieran> I've  been trying to install E17 on my ubuntu box using easy_e17.sh , but I come upon errors during the build process, notably: http://pastebin.com/m44e6e881
[06:45] <LancerNZ> thanks
[06:46] <shipz> ./nickserv identify
[06:46] <shipz> :)
[06:46] <mindrape> xavieran - there are repositories that you can add to your /etc/apt/sources.list that will allow you to just sudo apt-get install e17
[06:46] <xavieran> I'm trying to install the dev version...
[06:46] <goodday324324> ok thanks so should i try now to restart and see if it works correctly ?
[06:46] <powertool08> LancerNZ: /msg nickserv set password $newpass
[06:46] <gmathews> WebcamWonder: About sunbird - Thanks its exactly what I was looking for :)
[06:46] <shipz> I'm just sittin back, freezing my butt off eating ice cream during the winter and had nothing better to type
[06:46] <WebcamWonder> gmathews: Glad to help :)
[06:46] <mindrape> goodday324324: yes.
[06:46] <goodday324324> to see if it boots faster and the usb works
[06:46] <mindrape> goodday324324: see if it speeds things up.
[06:46] <goodday324324> ok
[06:47] <xavieran> mindrape, Do you know what repositories these are, then?
[06:47] <mindrape> xavieran: lemme look... hold
[06:48] <LancerNZ> Thanks powertool08... freenode still not answering... oh finally - someone there said to ask for "help"
[06:48] <xavieran> thank you mindrape
[06:48] <samthetwohippman> xavieran: google E17 repositories ubuntu
[06:48] <powertool08> LancerNZ: no problem, I find google can be faster than IRC at times :)
[06:48] <xavieran> Yessir!
[06:48] <WebcamWonder> powertool08: IRC is just google with multiple front ends :P
[06:49] <samthetwohippman> almost all the time powertool
[06:49] <shipz> LancerNZ, /nickserv help will tell you anything you need to know about nickname registration
[06:49] <powertool08> WebcamWonder: true
[06:49] <mindrape> xavieran: see this forum... you can either grab one from an Ubuntu-based distro that makes E17 the default WM or there are some other repos listed... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=983633
[06:50] <venger> having trouble authenticating to cups server from remote workstation, using account credentials for user account known to be on the server
[06:51] <eeboy_> Is inetd used in Hardy? If so... where can I find to restart it? It's not located where I expect /etc/init.d/inetd
[06:51] <mindrape> venger - you going through web interface to auth?
[06:51] <LancerNZ> Ah well - hopefully I can remember that - only here for the basics really. Just downloaded IRC because certain forums are down
[06:51] <xavieran> thank you mindrape
[06:51] <venger> mindrape, yes
[06:51] <mindrape> goodday324324: faster or no luck?
[06:51] <goodday324324> both issues completely resolved thnku v much !
[06:51] <WebcamWonder> eeboy_: I don't think it is installed by default
[06:51] <mindrape> glad to hear it goodday324324  :)
[06:51] <dustin_> Hi all. I have a newbi problem. I just installed 8.10 and am having trouble configuring the monitor. It started up with an "unknown" monitor setting running at very low resolution (600x800 ?). I then prompted me to install the "unsupported" drivers for my NVIDIA graphics card. After the reboot the resolution is set to 640x480. Can anyone give me advice on how to configure this or where to...
[06:51] <dustin_> ...find documentation on how to set it up?
[06:52] <goodday324324> tank u have a nice day !
[06:52] <mindrape> venger - what error do you get, if any?
[06:52] <WebcamWonder> !nvidia | dustin_
[06:52] <Seabornsol> hello?
[06:52] <mindrape> venger - what URL do you go to:   ie;  do you attempt to authenticate in the URL?        http://user:pass@server:port
[06:52] <mindrape> hi Seabornsol
[06:53] <Seabornsol> good evening
[06:53] <dustin_> Ok, pulling up the documentation now. Thanks for steering me in the right direction. ;-)
[06:53] <earthling> eeboy_ : its xinetd here
[06:53] <eeboy_> WebcamWonder: Hmmm... is there a reason for it?
[06:53] <venger> mindrape, right now i go straight to https://server:631 and when i go to print test page it pops up an authentication dialog which keeps repopping like its not accepting credentials eventually i get 401 not authorized
[06:54] <Seabornsol> this is nice, this is my first time here
[06:54] <abhi1> how to delete a directory?using -r makes so slow..........
[06:54] <eeboy_> earthling: That's not present either....
[06:54] <eeboy_> earthling: Shouldn't there be a default install?
[06:54] <WebcamWonder> eeboy_: I have no clue... I am not an expert here
[06:54] <rccu> abhi1: rmdir if it's empty; `rm -r` otherwise
[06:55] <mindrape> venger - can you go into CUPS from the localhost that it runs on?            localhost:631        then look in the Administration tab under the Access Log on the right side?
[06:55] <earthling> eeboy_ : what do you want to do exactly?
[06:55] <bastid_raZor> abhi1; rm -Rf will not prompt you..
[06:55] <mindrape> also check the Error log venger...
[06:55] <eeboy_> earthling: I am trying to share a scanner...
[06:55] <abhi1> ya some contents are thr in directory,it just warns me of data?
[06:55] <abhi1> k i'll those cmd's
[06:55] <eeboy_> earthling: via xsane
[06:55] <samthetwohippman> eeboy: of course there is a reason for "it"... The question is: what is it?\
[06:55] <CaptainMorgan> !xsane
[06:56] <venger> mindrape, those would just be /var/log/cups/[access_log&error_log] right?
[06:57] <venger> mindrape, headless ubuntu server
[06:57] <mindrape> venger - I believe so... but if you go into that panel on the localhost I believe the Admin tab will allow you to edit perms.  You can always just edit the files manually too
[06:57] <earthling> eeboy_ : do you have xinetd.d in /etc?
[06:57] <mindrape> venger - can you ssh to it then        lynx localhost:631
[06:57] <mindrape> or links if you prefer?
[06:57] <abhi1>  < bastid_raZor>gud thr was some data,so ur cmd worked,thanx.....
[06:58] <bastid_raZor> abhi1; be very careful with that command. it is potentially dangerous.
[06:58] <eeboy_> earthling: Yes, I do and I have it configured. However, according to everything I read I am to add a line to inetd.conf... then restart. Well... inetd.conf exists but I can't find inetd.
[06:58] <SunJay> i just installed 8.10 on my toshiba satellite a205 and i accidently left the wifi card off during the install and now when i turn it on it doesn't even show up when i run ifconfig
[06:58] <mindrape> venger - I believe you need to edit your cupsd.conf in /etc but not 100% sure what to change.  You either need to add the user you are authenticating to a group or change some other perms to make them less restrictive.     man cupsd.conf will be your best bet.
[06:59] <mindrape> SunJay - does it show up in       sudo lshw -C network
[06:59] <abhi1>  < bastid_raZor>no i was reinstalling mplayer,was kinda removing junk files,thanx 4r info........
[06:59] <mindrape> SunJay or in lspci or dmesg for that matter?
[06:59] <venger> mindrape, ok i had assumed it would just use pam
[06:59] <earthling> eeboy_ : you must make change in xinetd.conf ..
[06:59] <mindrape> venger - you need to configure it to use that... did you edit the default config?
[06:59] <gvsa123> what's the command again if i downloaded a targz to install?
[07:00] <darkfuzion> !rooms
[07:00] <mindrape> tar -zxvf thefile.tar.gz to extract it.
[07:00] <earthling> eeboy_ : its in /etc
[07:00] <venger> mindrape, sure a plenty but it has auth type of basic
[07:00] <mindrape> then once extracted you likely need to       ./configure then make then make install
[07:00] <SunJay> mindrape - yes it does show up
[07:00] <mindrape> SunJay - sudo iwconfig doesn't list it?
[07:00] <mindrape> SunJay - what does lspci list?  Can you paste JUST the single line related to the card in here?
[07:01] <Cooldogs_1_> hi?
[07:01] <johnnbstroud> wow, I'm back.
[07:02] <^arky^> hi
[07:02] <mindrape> hi Cooldogs_1_
[07:02] <SunJay> it shows up in iwconfig. and what is lspci?
[07:02] <johnnbstroud> hello peoples
[07:02] <mindrape> lspci lists pci devices... or is this a USB wireless device?  lsusb
[07:02] <Cooldogs_1_> im having difficulty with vsftpd
[07:02] <^arky^> can anyone help me configure atheros AR242x on Ibex
[07:02] <Cooldogs_1_> i want to change the directory it uses to /cars/www
[07:02] <Cooldogs_1_> and i want to beable to create a username/password
[07:02] <SunJay> its built into the laptop
[07:03] <johnnbstroud> acer aspire one ..
[07:03] <mindrape> Cooldogs_1_: man vsftpd.conf      cd /etc/       nano vsftpd.conf     edit it as necessary, save it,    then    /etc/init.d/./vsftpd restart
[07:03] <mindrape> ^arky^: is that a wireless card?
[07:03] <Monona> What is the shell command used to look at diagnostic messages when a program crashes?  Do you need to have run the program from the command line to use it?
[07:03] <mindrape> Monona: I use          strace theprogram
[07:03] <^arky^> yes, mindrape
[07:03] <SunJay> i think this is it "05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)"
[07:03] <mindrape> then it will show you all the data on what is wrong.
[07:03] <Cooldogs_1_> ok
[07:03] <Cooldogs_1_> silly me
[07:03] <Cooldogs_1_> lol
[07:04] <mindrape> SunJay, ^arky^ - let me google your cards to see if a valid driver exists for Linux... if not you can use a Windows driver using ndiswrapper (ndisgtk is easy to config it)
[07:04] <mindrape> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5693578   <--- lets you use a Windows driver for your wireless card in Linux.
[07:04] <samthetwohippman> eeboy: next time you want to find a file, try locate or find......you may need to use sudo with find
[07:05] <SunJay> ok. thanks by the way
[07:05] <mindrape> SunJay - can you confirm that the radio is actually on?
[07:05] <^arky^> mindrape, I think ath_pci should work with this device coz in ubuntu HH it works without a problem
[07:05] <xun> any Opera user in here? how can I configure my mx1000 mouse to use the "back" & "forward" button with opera? it works by default for firefox, but not opera
[07:05] <SunJay> yes the light for the wifi card is on
[07:05] <bullgard4> What do effect the lines CONFIG_NETFILTER_NETLINK=m, CONFIG_NF_CT_NETLINK=m, CONFIG_SCSI_NETLINK=y und CONFIG_QUOTA_NETLINK_INTERFACE=y in/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-22-generic/.config?
[07:05] <Monona> mindrape: Thanks. I'll take a look.
[07:05] <mindrape> ^arky^: can you lsmod and see if it is loaded?         lsmod | grep "ath_pci"
[07:06] <^arky^> yes mindrape its load ed ath_pci along with wlan and ath_hal
[07:06] <BentFrank> am i sick if i browse total strangers' pastebins for fun?
[07:07] <earthling> mindrape: madwifi is a better option for atheros devices.. I had very bad experience with ndiswrapper.. but madwifi worked like charm for ateros devices
[07:07] <mindrape> ^arky^: okay can you run       nm-tool
[07:07] <mindrape> SunJay can you             lsmod | grep "iwl3945" and see if that is loaded ?
[07:07] <^arky^> yes, nm-tool only shows eth0
[07:08] <mindrape> ^arky^: and is eth0 listed as having a wireless interface in iwconfig?
[07:08] <^arky^> eth0 no wireless extensions
[07:08] <gvsa123> how come thunderbird isn't available through synaptic?
[07:08] <mindrape> ^arky^: then I'd say that driver isn't cutting the mustard for you. :(
[07:08] <Gnea> gvsa123: how are you sure that it isn't?
[07:08] <mindrape> maybe there was breakage from your last release to 8.10?
[07:09] <^arky^> ok
[07:09] <^arky^> shall I install madwifi-tools ?
[07:09] <SunJay> iwl3945                98804  0
[07:09] <Gnea> !info thunderbird
[07:09] <mindrape> yes ^arky^.... perhaps earthling could help you out w it?
[07:09] <mindrape> I'm more familiar w ndiswrapper...
[07:09] <^arky^> ok
[07:09] <gvsa123> Gnea: i typed thunderbird from the search and i believe mozilla-thunderbird should show up, but it wasn't there.. there was an entry for a locale package of some sort but i don't think that's it... am i wrong in this?
[07:09]  * ^arky^ looks around for earthling
[07:10] <xun> any Opera user in here? how can I configure my mouse to use the "back" & "forward" button with opera? it works by default for firefox, but not opera
[07:10] <platius> ^arky^; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros    I have not tried this
[07:10] <damo22> whats the command for gui partitioning?
[07:11] <gvsa123> Gnea: i just installed it through the terminal though...
[07:11] <mindrape> gparted damo22
[07:12] <damo22> can u format ntfs in gparted?
[07:12] <earthling>  ***^arky^ : I hope you don't have one of those wifi connetion wwhere your wifi device connects to your PC using a usb cable.. as madwifi does not support such ateros devices
[07:13] <lanoxx> damo22, yes u can
[07:13] <lanoxx> afaik
[07:13] <Gnea> gvsa123: well, the name of the package is 'thunderbird', not 'mozilla-thunderbird'
[07:13] <DanaG> Anyone know how to trigger a rebuild (copy primary -> secondary) in dmraid?
[07:13] <lintunen>  Does anybody have any advice on how to stop kernel packages getting upgraded via automatic update (aside from un-ticking the box every time) ?  I've tried locking in Synaptic but they still get overridden.
[07:13] <nerdyperdy> i got some questions...i am totally new
[07:14] <nerdyperdy> please help