[00:00] <engineer> /dev/mapper/system-HOME /home reiserfs defaults,noatime 0 2
[00:00] <engineer> replace accordingly to your system
[00:01] <mortici> hmmmmm
[00:01] <mortici> i have something similar and i can't write to the mount point as a regular user....
[00:01] <arrrghhh> so if the nvidia binary breaks X, and the restricted drivers manager breaks X, what do i do?  previously I used the nvidia binary, and it worked like a charm.  i backed up my xorg.conf, and upon reinstating that file X still broke.  I don't get it, this config worked perfectly fine before on the exact same system
[00:02] <arrrghhh> mortici, who 'owns' the mount?
[00:02] <arrrghhh> ls -l
[00:02] <engineer> you gotta allow it
[00:02] <mortici> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   80 2008-08-08 22:42 miscdata
[00:02] <engineer> chmod 777
[00:03] <mortici> weird my other dir which is mounted as ntfs-3g in fstab automatically is set to allow users to mount it...
[00:04] <mortici> when i run sudo mount -a it overrides my chmod....
[00:10] <benjamin> how do i change a disks mount point?
[00:11] <Clenfil> hi all
[00:11] <Clenfil> tem alguma gatinha nesse canal
[00:11] <arrrghhh> benjamin, well you can unmount with "umount" and re-mount with "mount" - or edit fstab to make the change permanent
[00:11] <arrrghhh> !es | Clenfil
[00:12] <yao_ziyua1> I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT ADEPT_MANAGER DOES NOT WARN ME ABOUT UNSIGNED PACKAGES
[00:12] <arrrghhh> yao_ziyua1, ok, can you turn the caps lock off please?
[00:12] <yao_ziyua1> ok
[00:12] <arrrghhh> thank you.
[00:12] <arrrghhh> why do you think this is true?
[00:13] <mortici> how can i tell the type of FS a /dev/xxx is?
[00:14] <engineer> fdisk
[00:14] <genii> mortici: sudo fdisk -l     will usually give a clue by the partition type
[00:16] <mortici> i don't get why my second resierfs partition doesn't mount so other users can browse it
[00:16] <mortici> only root can write to it :(
[00:20] <arrrghhh> mortici, i asked you to see who "owns" the drive with ls -l
[00:23] <mortici> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 254,  2 2008-08-08 22:54 isw_dhaigagjhg_SuperNova2
[00:29] <mortici> can anyone help me out? I want to mount a secondary ReiserFS partition to i have read write access to it but as of right now its only RO and ROOT only is there away for me to mount it in fstab to be RW
[00:29] <mortici> here is the pastebin of my fstab
[00:29] <mortici> http://pastebin.com/m10c6e02a
[00:32] <ubuntu> hello
[00:32] <mortici> here is a pastebin with the fstab and after mounting with sudo mount -a
[00:32] <mortici> http://pastebin.com/m38a952db
[00:32] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Has anyone in here ever had problems with KDE 4 logging out right after starting?
[00:32] <mortici> and output of ls -al /media
[00:38] <juver> ciao tutti
[00:46] <eross> trying to play some mp3's from a local fileserver but it says URL is not supported or possible network failure - using amarok.. anyone know why or how to fix it?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> eross,  i normally just mount remote shares locally - so they appear as a local directory. That seems to solve a lot of issues.
[00:56] <ubuntu> Can the /boot partition be shared with another linux system, i.e. sda1 - /boot, sda2 - "/" of kubuntu and sda3 - "/" of ubuntu?
[00:57] <benjamin> does anyone know of a gui app that will let me reformat a drive as ext3 using either xp or kubuntu?
[00:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> benjamin: gparted
[01:00] <bomber> be vewy very careful
[01:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> most definitely
[01:00] <benjamin> the drive is empty, i've already pulled everything off of it
[01:01] <benjamin> i want to completely eliminate partition and replace it with an ext3 one
[01:02] <Daisuke-Laptop> yeah, the usual warnings apply, tread carefully, double-check to be sure it's the right drive, but yeah, you should be fine with gparted
[01:02] <bomber> real nice utility... prolly not installed by default
[01:02] <benjamin> no, it wasn't
[01:03] <benjamin> wait, will it be able to reformat a drive that isn't mounted?
[01:03] <bomber> yes indeed
[01:04] <benjamin> good
[01:04] <Daisuke-Laptop> benjamin: in fact, it can't format it if it *is* mounted :)
[01:06] <mortici> woot i got virtualbox running :D
[01:12] <yao_ziyua1> if i run synaptic without kdesu or gksu, it uses the current kde theme; if with kdesu/gksu, it uses an ugly Motif theme. how do i make it use the kde theme as root?
[01:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> deal with it because it's only used infrequently?
[01:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm actually not sure, unless you were to launch system settings with kdesu and change it that way (and i don't even know if that would work) - besides, it's good for there to be a difference, a visual cue that reminds you if an app is running as a superuser can only be a good thing.
[01:18] <yao_ziyua1> can anyone tell me where to download ksynaptic?
[01:18] <yao_ziyua1> !ksynaptic
[01:28] <Pliskin> there is no kynaptic anymore
[01:28] <Pliskin> use adept
[02:06] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Has anyone in here ever had problems with KDE 4 logging out right after starting?
[02:25] <brmassa> guys, i just bought a new MB+SATA2 kit but kubuntu CD is not detecting the new hard drive. only detects the old IDE. what should i do?
[02:25] <Guest22966> <---ubuntu noob, woot :)
[02:31] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:32] <ns8> #kubuntu-es
[02:34] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:46] <rodolfo> #ubuntu-ar
[02:52] <mefisto__> I'm wondering if ubuntu linux has better support for AMD or Intel CPUs. Which has better support for virtualization, for example? Will I notice a difference in performance?
[02:55] <arrrghhh> so when the hardware drivers manager fails to install the nvidia stuff properly (it breaks X), what do i do?  i've used the binaries from nvidia's website, but the same result
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- I doubt you'd notice any performance difference because of Ubuntu
[02:55] <arrrghhh> what i don't get is my xorg.conf that was working on this exact same setup no longer works.
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> As for virtualization, I think current processors from both companies (Athlon X2, Core 2 Duo) support it equally well
[02:58] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: when you say "same setup" does that mean same hardware? or your linux install is the same?
[02:58] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, same everything.  kubuntu 8.04.1, exact same hardware.
[02:59] <arrrghhh> it's the same machine.  i installed intrepid and of course it screwed up a lotta things.  so i reinstalled.
[02:59] <arrrghhh> saved my xorg.conf, and i tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers like i did before but it hasn't worked yet.  X always breaks.
[03:00] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: does X give an error message? or just a blank black screen?
[03:00] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, it blinks from the console login to a black screen
[03:01] <arrrghhh> back and forth, until i just kill it and blast out the xorg.conf file.  i'm assuming the newly created xorg uses vesa.
[03:01] <arrrghhh> hello mr willis
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> Moo!
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:02] <arrrghhh> lol
[03:02] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: could you possibly have other vid drivers installed. I had that problem after swapping an ati card with a nvidia card, then went back to the original ati card and no X
[03:02] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, i've had a lot of inconsistencies with X
[03:03] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: all I had to do was uninstall the nvidia driver to fix it
[03:03] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, i've never swapped the video card in this machine.  no hardware was touched, and my X was working beautifully with both monitors (configured thru nvidia-settings) and i figured reinstating my old working xorg would be a piece of cake and it would just drop right in
[03:03] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, like remove the nvidia-glx package?
[03:04] <arrrghhh> i've also tried to use the binaries from the nvidia website (which worked for me in the past on feisty)
[03:05] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: yes, that's what I did. Maybe you could try a purge removal and reinstall with the Hardware Drivers tool in kmenu
[03:06] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: does the livecd start X?
[03:07] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, yes, using vesa.
[03:07] <arrrghhh> i'm using the vesa driver right now in fact
[03:08] <mefisto__> do the nvidia drivers still support your card?
[03:08] <arrrghhh> they say they do
[03:08] <arrrghhh> just says "geforce 8 series cards"
[03:09] <arrrghhh> i have an 8600gt
[03:09] <arrrghhh> keep in mind this was working perfectly just the other day before i decided to upgrade to intrepid lol
[03:10] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: is your card listed when you do: apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy    ?
[03:11] <arrrghhh> lemme see
[03:11] <mot_> what's the difference between 'suspend' and 'hibernate' in kde 3.5.9?
[03:12] <Dr_willis_> I imagine one  is 'suspend to ram' other is 'suspend to disk'
[03:12] <arrrghhh> well suspend is just supposed to put the computer in a low-power state
[03:12] <arrrghhh> and the hibernate actually turns it off, saving your ram to hdd
[03:12] <arrrghhh> like mr willis said
[03:12] <mot_> well what would the benefits of each be?
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> of course i never USE either of the features.
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> one uses no battery.. other does
[03:13] <arrrghhh> uhm well suspend it boots up quicker
[03:13] <mot_> hmm
[03:13] <arrrghhh> hibernate uses no battery
[03:13] <mot_> i've never used either
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> I dont even use the features under windows.
[03:13] <mot_> well let me test it out brb
[03:13] <arrrghhh> i used them when i was in skewl
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> They have 'issues'  too much
[03:13] <arrrghhh> and the funny thing is i never had any issues with it
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> and i can boot up my linux laptop in like 20-30 sec.. or less
[03:14] <arrrghhh> i've only done it with 1 laptop tho
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> plug/unplug/remove/add a lot of hardware.. :) and it can cause issues.
[03:14] <arrrghhh> what do you do to speed boot up?
[03:14] <arrrghhh> i saw a thing in the gentoo forums where guys were loading their /etc /usr etc folders into ram persistently.
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> Not a lot.. the default ubuntu/kubuntu is just quick on th elaptop
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> gentoo users tend to waste a lot of time to save a little time.
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:15] <arrrghhh> i couldn't figure out how to translate it to ubuntu
[03:15] <arrrghhh> yea they do that
[03:15] <arrrghhh> but i really wanted to load firefox persistently into ram
[03:15] <mot_> hmmm
[03:15] <mot_> suspend works great.
[03:15] <arrrghhh> so even if it's closed, i can still call on it quickly
[03:15] <mot_> bbl sleep
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> I just never close it. :)
[03:15] <arrrghhh> or i should say run firefox exclusively from ram
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> if you loaded it, thenc losed it.. it should still be in ram when you start it again.
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> unless somting caused the cache to clear out i guess
[03:15] <arrrghhh> not necessairly loaded it permanently into ram
[03:16] <arrrghhh> yessir you are correct it does load it into ram if i close and reopen quickly
[03:16] <arrrghhh> but if i close, do a buncha stuff and reopen... not so much.
[03:16] <arrrghhh> i found this firefox-qs package that helped... just a firefox icon in the systray
[03:17] <arrrghhh> and sometimes it seemed to load quicker, like right after inital boot
[03:17] <arrrghhh> but other times it seemed slower, so i dunno
[03:18] <Dr_willis_> sounds like a lot of worrying about nothing. :)
[03:18] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, i never answered your question.  my card is not explicitly listed, but no cards are really.  it lists "geforce" as a model, and there's a whole lotta cards that fall under that classification.
[03:18] <arrrghhh> eh i like making things quick and efficient.  maybe i take it a little too far :P
[03:18] <Dr_willis_> FF takes 7 secs to load here..
[03:19] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: where did you find the firefox-qs package?
[03:20] <arrrghhh> it's not in the repo's
[03:20] <arrrghhh> @ kde-apps.org
[03:21] <arrrghhh> it's takin a while to load... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kde-apps.org%2Fcontent%2Fshow.php%2FFirefox%2BQuickstarter%3Fcontent%3D31014&ei=6P6cSLHFJYnOtQOWstniAw&usg=AFQjCNFkgjI21W61ZJNmWHZDYvEHoX0IFQ&sig2=UEZeTmZC71G-fyW5ps1-OA
[03:21] <arrrghhh> erm www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Firefox+Quickstarter?content=31014
[03:24] <arrrghhh> alright i'm gonna try to restart X
[03:31] <umass> hello?
[03:33] <arrrghhh> ok so i just saw one of the craziest things
[03:33] <arrrghhh> and i've seen it before
[03:34] <mefisto__> good crazy or bad crazy?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> uhm bad
[03:34] <arrrghhh> i have a video
[03:34] <arrrghhh> just need to u/l it 1 sec
[03:39] <arrrghhh> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01ITGszQVN6NE0wTVE9PQ
[03:39] <arrrghhh> check out that Dr_willis mefisto__ tell me if you've ever seen that...
[03:40] <arrrghhh> i went to the k-menu clicked log out and restart, and that was the screen i was met with.
[03:40] <Dr_willis_> Video driver glitz
[03:41] <arrrghhh> schweet
[03:41] <Dr_willis_> i see that often with ati video cards over the years
[03:41] <arrrghhh> i purged all the nvidia stuff
[03:41] <Dr_willis_> some times the console/framebuffer has issues wiht the X video drivers
[03:41] <arrrghhh> and installed nvidia-glx nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig.  i went to logout to restart the x server and yea
[03:41] <Dr_willis_> and may not reset the console properly and so forth
[03:41] <arrrghhh> sweet
[03:41] <arrrghhh> i love linux, but there have been a lot of strange crashes
[03:42] <Dr_willis_> compared to the strangeness i have in windows.. i will stick with linux
[03:42] <arrrghhh> it's real stable... but if there's just something slightly wrong some of the strangest stuff happens lol
[03:42] <arrrghhh> and yea, forget windows
[03:42] <Dr_willis_> I would say 90% of it - is video drivers.
[03:43] <arrrghhh> i have to fix those pos's all the time, i hate their uninstall/install method of software.  it's getting so buggy, ccleaner's uninstaller system works better than the built-in windows crap.
[03:44] <arrrghhh> ah well.  i'm thinking it might've been that install.
[03:44] <arrrghhh> i was installing it from my flash drive which has a kubuntu persistent install on it.
[03:44] <arrrghhh> i followed instructions from pendrivelinux.com, they made it real easy but it caused some problems
[03:45] <arrrghhh> i'm reinstalling again from my ubuntu 8.04 cd.  hopefully that works lol
[03:48] <intreq> hay
[03:49] <intreq> any one here knows any rpg games that can be compatable with kubuntu?
[03:49] <letalis> depends native or emulated?
[03:49] <intreq> some thing like lastchaos
[03:49] <intreq> i googled some games fo linux, and i found urban terror, and is good, but i like rpg better
[03:50] <Dr_willis_> theres dozens^2  of games out there.. depends on exactly waht you want
[03:50] <Dr_willis_> No idea what 'lastchaos' is never heard of it.
[03:51] <mefisto__> intreq: I came across this yesterday: http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/   might be something there you will like
[03:51] <letalis> theres a plethora of things that will run under wine as well
[03:51] <intreq> thanks man, i will really look into it
[03:52] <intreq> oooo , i tried wine
[03:52] <intreq> and is screwed up
[03:52] <letalis> i have both fallouts and divine divinity on this box.
[03:52] <Dr_willis_> DOSbox and the old dos games are fun alwo
[03:52] <Dr_willis_> with wine  - it depends a lot on the exact game.
[03:52] <letalis> and i had oblivion running but it has some issues.
[03:52] <letalis> :P
[03:52] <letalis> and guild wars.
[03:53] <intreq> lol
[03:53] <intreq> hay can u guys tell me som egames u like
[03:53] <intreq> i currently have urban terror
[03:53] <intreq> :
[03:53] <intreq> ;D
[03:54] <Dr_willis_> !games
[03:54] <Dr_willis_> I tend to play some of the Various PopCap Games in Wine..
[03:54] <letalis> theres a remake of wing commander for linux thats really good.
[03:54] <Dr_willis_> or FreeCiv/FreeCol.
[03:55] <letalis> the game that used to be called crossfire was fun, though the graphics were pretty bad :P
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> bad is relative...
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:57] <letalis> gameplay is what matters.
[03:57] <letalis> but alot of people judge entirely on what it looks like.
[03:57] <letalis> ive seen games with beautiful graphics and utter trash for gameplay.
[04:00] <intreq> i personally thinks that wine is useless
[04:00] <intreq> and annoying to configure
[04:00] <letalis> not really.
[04:01] <letalis> i remember when it was useless.
[04:01] <letalis> LOL
[04:01] <letalis> barely run notepad at one time
[04:01] <intreq> btw thanks guys
[04:01] <intreq> i got a nice rpg game
[04:01] <letalis> it has definately grown up over the years.
[04:01] <letalis> the original Neverwinter Nights has a native linux client.
[04:03] <intreq> the bad thing is
[04:03] <intreq> i have to pay
[04:03] <Dr_willis_> I cant say that ive had to fight with wine very much at all.
[04:03] <Dr_willis_> Getting the Native NWN Client working under linux.. now THAT was a pain when last i tried it.
[04:03] <letalis> wine is rather painless anymore to setup
[04:03] <letalis> lol
[04:03] <letalis> i agree Dr_willis_
[04:04] <Dr_willis_> Wine does id say about 70% of the PopCap Games I try with no hassles.
[04:04] <letalis> i remember trying to get quake2 running in redhat.
[04:04] <Dr_willis_> others dont work worth a poo.
[04:04] <letalis> LOL
[04:05] <Dr_willis_> the fact that wine works as well as it does..  is amazing
[04:09] <intreq> question
[04:09] <intreq> why is most games for linux is first person shooting?
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> I would say that is a false statement intreq
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> id software is noted for porting most all of their games to linux.. but that does not make 'most' games for linux.
[04:10] <intreq> ooops
[04:10] <intreq> sorry
[04:10] <intreq> but the only rpg game i saw from that link is savage
[04:10] <intreq> whicg i am trying
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> I would not call 'savage' a RPG.
[04:11] <Dr_willis_> its a fps. :)
[04:11] <Dr_willis_> Savage2 just came out recently also.
[04:11] <intreq> ahh
[04:11] <intreq> u have any good rpg to suggest>?
[04:12] <Dr_willis_> depends on how you define 'rpg' i guess..
[04:12] <Dr_willis_> I tend to playt the  SNES RPG's with the snes emulators.
[04:12] <faileas> Dr_willis_: in part cause id programmes portably. its trivial, just needs recompilation
[04:13] <intreq> what i mean rpg is like
[04:13] <intreq> olden days
[04:13] <intreq> kinda like wow
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> olden days = WoW ?
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> You are not very old then. :)
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> Olden Days RPG = SSI and  the old D&D RPG games.
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> Ultima I II and so on.
[04:14] <intreq> no imean
[04:14] <intreq> forget it
[04:14] <intreq> hard to explain
[04:19] <dschulz> does anybody knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy-backports?
[04:20] <letalis> i dont even consider MMO's of any kind rpgs
[04:21] <letalis> theyre just griefing/grinding games.
[04:21] <letalis> LOL
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> SolitareRPG
[04:22] <intreq> just can't find a prg for linux that i like
[04:22] <intreq> sad
[04:22] <intreq> :(
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> I imagine you are expecting some miracal.. or you are not looking very hard.
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> :)
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> Inever did buy Savage2... i ment to do that..
[04:24] <intreq> i don't have money
[04:24] <intreq> :(
[04:24] <intreq> i like savage a lot
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> You are not looking veyr hgard then..
[04:24] <intreq> but got no money
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> Savage 1 - is FREE
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> Savage2 has a comercial demo
[04:24] <cilkay> Hello. Is there a 64 bit version for Core2 CPUs? I see one for AMD64.
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> cilkay,  that one will work.
[04:25] <cilkay> OK, thanks.
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> !find lbreakout
[04:26] <Dr_willis_> lbreakout2 - :) an awsome  remake  of the classic breakout.
[04:27] <oscar> español
[04:27] <oscar> español
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> What about espanol?
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> !es
[04:34] <arrrghhh> well that's sad... vanilla ubuntu saved the day.  vanilla kubuntu (installed via flash drive as opposed to CD) did not want to cooperate.
[04:35] <webpirate> hello all..
[04:35] <webpirate> I have a question.....
[04:35] <webpirate> anyone here?
[04:36] <arrrghhh> !question | webpirate
[04:37] <webpirate> I have a problem that I forgot how to fix....I just re-installed kubuntu 8.0464 bit and the some of the gl screensavers dont' work from kdesktop...I forgot how I fixed it last time...anyone remember how?
[04:37] <webpirate> I remember I had to re-install something but I have tried to  reinstall all the opengl and screensaver stuff and I am still stuck
[04:38] <arrrghhh> hrm... have you tried turning off compositing and kwin any of that crap to see if it was effecting it?  i dunno, i don't use screen savers.
[04:39] <webpirate> yea..I moved my xorg.conf over...from old setup..I just wish I remember what I had to re-install
[04:39] <webpirate> :(
[04:39] <webpirate> its just that when you get ubuntu installed you don't have to re-install it for such a long time that you forget..
[04:40] <webpirate> not like windows where you are constantly fixing the same problem..
[04:40] <webpirate> oops...closed the window
[04:41] <arrrghhh> lol i know what you mean
[04:41] <webpirate> The screensavers listeed under OpenGL Screen Savers work fine....but the ones not listen in any categorty do not ...like my favorite one Colorfire..
[04:41] <arrrghhh> i just had a heckuva time with my video card drivers again, and vanilla ubuntu saved the day.  vanilla kubuntu... not so much.  i tried to drop a backed up xorg.conf in and it broke X.  everything broke X
[04:41] <arrrghhh> hrm
[04:42] <arrrghhh> have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and alll your vid card drivers?
[04:42] <webpirate> Yes..nvidia card install properly..
[04:42] <webpirate> I have to check synaptic again to see what to re-install
[04:42] <arrrghhh> install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:43] <webpirate> ok..
[04:43] <webpirate> how abotu this.......
[04:43] <webpirate> the screensaver workes in gnome but not KDE..
[04:43] <webpirate> what do you think about that?
[04:45] <webpirate> ok I fixed it.....anyone want to know how?
[04:45] <arrrghhh> ?
[04:45] <webpirate> I installed kscreensaver-xsavers-extra and now the screensavers work
[04:46] <webpirate> Remember to click on "Run-nice" when selecting screensavers of you CPU usage will be high
[04:46] <webpirate> of = or
[04:47] <Daisuke-Laptop> is there really any point to screensavers anymore?  i just set the display to blank when it's been idle for 10 minutes, no need to make my pc and monitor work extra if i'm not there
[04:48] <webpirate> I just like the screensavers so I know that my 3d is setup properly...
[04:48] <webpirate> if the screensavers skip alot then I know that there is something eating resources..
[04:48] <arrrghhh> lol
[04:48] <arrrghhh> yea i just set my screen to go in low-power mode
[04:48] <webpirate> which I found happens alot with ubuntu 32bit....but not with 64bit
[04:48] <Daisuke-Laptop> top will tell you that a lot quicker than waiting for the screensaver to kick in, then waiting to see if it runs well :)
[04:49] <arrrghhh> i was actually trying to figure out how to force the login screen to go into low-power much faster cuz it sits on that screen the most.
[04:49] <Daisuke-Laptop> arrrghhh: mine are single-user machines, i don't bother logging out :D
[04:49] <arrrghhh> yea mine used to be a single user machine
[04:49] <arrrghhh> until i got a girlfriend and a roommate lol
[04:49] <webpirate> gkrellm would show me 0% cpu usage but screensaver would skip alot so I checked ksysguard and firefox would spike every 5 seconds or so
[04:50] <Daisuke-Laptop> girlfriend i can understand, but roommates buy their own computers :)
[04:50] <arrrghhh> yea he bought the ps3
[04:50] <Daisuke-Laptop> of course, i just built my fiance a shuttle-style box, she's got her machine and i have my 3 :D
[04:50] <webpirate> 4 years windows free here!! :)
[04:50] <arrrghhh> not really a fair trade... but he pays for a 1/3 of the internet and i use way more b/w lol.  not like we get charged by the kb or anything
[04:50] <Daisuke-Laptop> that's not a bad deal then
[04:51] <arrrghhh> yea... i just end up turning old machines into file servers lol.  i don't have room for more monitors.
[04:51] <arrrghhh> i have my 17" and my 42" monitor hooked up to 1 machine, and that's plently let me tell you
[04:51] <webpirate> You don't need more monitors....VNC is the way to go..
[04:52] <arrrghhh> i don't need multiple machines...
[04:52] <webpirate> set them up turn them on and then VNC into them when you need to do something on them
[04:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> desktop ( Daisuke_Ido ), this laptop, and my media center machine, which is a horribly ugly old emachines box running geexbox
[04:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> webpirate: i tend to just ssh, but that's me :)
[04:52] <arrrghhh> i was gonna say the same thing
[04:52] <arrrghhh> no x server
[04:52] <webpirate> Yes....ssh is way better....
[04:52] <webpirate> well there is a way to run x programs with ssh..
[04:52] <arrrghhh> these file servers are like 300 mhz lol
[04:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> but it uses the local X
[04:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> -X option
[04:53] <webpirate> use the -X switch when running programs
[04:53] <arrrghhh> i don't want graphical programs on them
[04:53] <webpirate> but sometime you have to...
[04:53] <webpirate> just remember that -X lets you run them on the client side but daya and commands get sent to server
[04:53] <webpirate> daya = data
[04:54] <webpirate> I guess I still need 32bit forefox for flash with ubuntu 8.04 64bit right?
[04:55] <webpirate> anyone try the open flash player for firefox 3?
[04:58] <webpirate> can some one send me the tutorial for install firefox32 with flash on ubuntu 8.04 pwetty pwease..
[04:59] <crweb> webpirate:  apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:00] <Dr_willis_> data and commands? Err... I think thats technically wrong...  but..  Im not follwing the conversation totally..
[05:00] <webpirate> ok I will try that....what about for java..
[05:00] <crweb> webpirate: google, ubuntu restricted formats
[05:00] <arrrghhh> i just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:00] <crweb> or that
[05:00] <webpirate> I need firefox 32 thught right?
[05:01] <crweb> webpirate: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:01] <crweb> thats all
[05:01] <crweb> apt-get takes care of dependencies
[05:02] <benjamin> I'm trying to enable my new HD. I formatted it as ext3, but when i try to enable it in the system settings, it says, "The system reported: mount: mount point /dev/sdb1 is not a directory"
[05:02] <benjamin> any know how to fix this?
[05:04] <webpirate> Make sure that you are using the right mount point....I can never figure out the correct mount points..they change all them time..
[05:05] <webpirate> try sdb0
[05:05] <crweb> thats why you use partition labels
[05:05] <webpirate> yup
[05:05] <crweb> e2label /dev/<yourdevice># "Name"
[05:06] <Dr_willis_> !find wesnoth
[05:06] <webpirate> but I always thought that sdb was for removable drive and hda was for hard drivers.
[05:06] <crweb> sdb is scsi block device
[05:06] <crweb> usb and removable media use scsi interface
[05:06] <webpirate> yes...that what I ment.....sorry
[05:06] <webpirate> :(
[05:07] <crweb> so does serial ata though
[05:07] <webpirate> They took my xmms away from ubuntu 8.04
[05:07] <benjamin> yeah, it's a sata drive
[05:08] <Dr_willis_> !xmms
[05:08] <webpirate> but xmms look so much kooler!
[05:08]  * Dr_willis_ dosent really care.  I will stick with linux
[05:14] <webpirate> I meed a different IRC program....KSirc is kinda lame
[05:14] <webpirate> well you can still get Americas Army for linux..
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> I was thinking the Latest AA, dropped Linux support.
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> but i havent tried that game in Years.,
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> I never could get out of bootcamp. :)
[05:15] <webpirate> yes..AA is stuck on version 2,5 for linux..
[05:15] <Dr_willis_> I did get Savage 1 working under ubuntu just a little bit ago
[05:16] <webpirate> how can I install sun java for firefox...icedtea sucks.. :(
[05:16] <Dr_willis_> Find the sun java package in the package manager perhaps?
[05:17] <Dr_willis_> I forget its exact name
[05:17] <Dr_willis_> !find jre
[05:17] <Dr_willis_> !java
[05:17] <webpirate> I wish I knew more about java programming....ICEDTEA is SOOOOO close to being java but not just there yet
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> never noticed. :) i just tend to install what i need to run the few java apps i use.
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> Wich is FreeCol at this time.
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> java -version
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> java version "1.6.0_06"
[05:18] <webpirate> in a few months Icedtea will probably be perfect clone of java
[05:19] <flaccid> icedtea is java, its just not sun
[05:19] <Dr_willis_> I was thinking that also flaccid  but - my Java-fu-knowledge is rather minimal. :)
[05:20] <webpirate> well...it has a few flaws that need to be addressed
[05:20] <Dr_willis_> webpirate,  the wife said the same thing about ME the other day....
[05:20] <Dr_willis_> :P
[05:20] <webpirate> he he h e
[05:25] <webpirate> now I will fight with sun java to get it installed
[05:25] <webpirate> too bad automatix does not work with 8.04
[05:25] <webpirate> Automatix was awesome
[05:33] <abwhostw> hi
[05:34] <webpirate> hi
[05:36] <arrrghhh> automatix sux
[05:42] <abwhostw> I have problem wioth my apache
[05:42] <arrrghhh> uh... alt-f2 no longer brings up the run dialog....
[05:42] <arrrghhh> !question | abwhostw
[05:42] <abwhostw> hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:42] <abwhostw> yeah
[05:42] <arrrghhh> that is a problem
[05:43] <abwhostw> when I got to the brosswer type
[05:43] <abwhostw> localhost
[05:43] <abwhostw> give me
[05:43] <abwhostw> error
[05:43] <flaccid> !enter | abwhostw
[05:43] <flaccid> abwhostw: specify the error always otherwise we can't help you
[05:43] <abwhostw> Not Found
[05:43] <abwhostw> The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.
[05:43] <abwhostw> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80
[05:44] <arrrghhh> lmao kubuntu made it win key+r cuz i said it wanted it "like ms windows" double click etc
[05:44] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, ok... and the file does indeed exist?
[05:44] <abwhostw> yeah
[05:44] <arrrghhh> who owns it?
[05:45] <flaccid> abwhostw: thats a 404, it means that index.php does not exist in your DocumentRoot
[05:45] <arrrghhh> ls -l
[05:45] <arrrghhh> www-data should own it
[05:45] <abwhostw> abwhostw@(none):~$ ls -l
[05:45] <abwhostw> total 1188
[05:45] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Desktop
[05:45] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 3 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 15:53 Documents
[05:45] <abwhostw> -rw-r--r-- 1 abwhostw abwhostw   11217 2008-08-08 13:17 files
[05:45] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, uh... i was talking about ls -l'ing your /var/www dir
[05:45] <flaccid> !pastebin | abwhostw
[05:45] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 6 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 15:29 installd
[05:45] <arrrghhh> stop
[05:46] <arrrghhh> quit
[05:46] <abwhostw> -rw-r--r-- 1 abwhostw abwhostw 1161257 2008-07-09 07:02 latest
[05:46] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, stop!
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Music
[05:46] <abwhostw> -rw------- 1 root     root          74 2008-08-08 13:23 nano.save
[05:46] <arrrghhh> THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Pictures
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Public
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Templates
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Videos
[05:46] <abwhostw> how to fix the priblem
[05:46] <flaccid> abwhostw: learn apache.
[05:46] <arrrghhh> i can't help you if you're going to be like that abwhostw
[05:46] <abwhostw> uh
[05:46] <flaccid> abwhostw: default DocumentRoot is /var/www not your homedir or anything
[05:46] <level1_> hi, I'm using Karbon14/kde4... theres a widget to choose color but the method is very weird... is there a way to set it to RGB or HSV?
[05:47] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, and if you look in /var/www i bet there's no index.php
[05:47] <abwhostw> yeah
[05:47] <arrrghhh> level1_, this is for kde3
[05:47] <arrrghhh> #kubuntu-kde4, or there's probably a #kde4
[05:48] <abwhostw> before it's said it's work
[05:48] <abwhostw> and after is disapper
[05:49] <flaccid> abwhostw: if /var/www is your doc root and you run this command: file /var/www/index.php and it returns No such file or directory then what it says is true, there is no /var/www/index.php
[05:50] <flaccid> abwhostw: reading and learning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP will definately help you with some basics
[05:50] <abwhostw> i did
[05:50] <abwhostw> and doesn't help to fix my problem
[05:51] <flaccid> abwhostw: we gave you the solution to your problem. the file doesn't exist..
[05:51] <abwhostw> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[05:51] <flaccid> abwhostw: where did that come from?
[05:52] <arrrghhh> is that a log?
[05:52] <webpirate> my amsn is broken :(
[05:52] <arrrghhh> webpirate, just use pidgin
[05:52] <abwhostw> when I type
[05:52] <abwhostw> cmmd
[05:53] <abwhostw> apache2
[05:53] <flaccid> abwhostw: thats not how you start/run apache thus why you read the above link.
[05:53] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, apache runs as a daemon service.  if you put "ps -A | grep apache" and it returns something, than apache is running
[05:53] <Schijnn> Could someone tell me where Firefox is installed?  I'm trying to install the Adobe Flash plugin, and I've tried every Mozilla-related subfolder of /usr/lib, but it won't accept any of them.
[05:54] <flaccid> abwhostw: apache is started with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start or sudo apache2ctl start
[05:54] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, usually /usr/lib/
[05:54] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, and profiles in /home/<user>/.mozilla
[05:54] <abwhostw> abwhostw@(none):/root$ ps -A | grep apache
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6261 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6341 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, so apache is running
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6342 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6343 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6344 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6345 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  9156 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  9175 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  9176 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <arrrghhh> jeez quit with that!
[05:54] <arrrghhh> !flood
[05:54] <flaccid> !rules | abwhostw
[05:54] <arrrghhh> lol
[05:55] <flaccid> hehe. abwhostw if you don't listen, then please leave.
[05:55]  * arrrghhh thinks flaccid picked a better one
[05:55] <abwhostw> ok
[05:56] <abwhostw> the biggest problem I transfer my pc to Ubuntu
[05:56] <abwhostw> I was had windoes server 2008
[05:57] <arrrghhh> horrible... abwhostw you're really not workin the sympathy card here at all.
[05:57] <flaccid> abwhostw: get into the habit of specifying your problem on 1 line and make sure you put detail in the problem, so we actually know what the problem is specifically otherwise you are wasting your typing
[05:57] <Schijnn> I still can't get any sound from Flash in Firefox, and Konqueror locks up whenever I go to Youtube.
[05:57] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, do you have the kubuntu-restricted-extras package installed?
[05:58] <webpirate> GRR icedtea java sucks...
[05:58] <flaccid> webpirate: totally
[05:58] <arrrghhh> but cross-platform ease!
[05:58] <webpirate> I guess I have to do the 32bit forefox thing...damn..
[05:58] <arrrghhh> is about it's only benefit...
[05:59] <arrrghhh> webpirate, yea running a 64-bit os with flash is frustrating to say in the least
[05:59] <arrrghhh> i don't understand why they haven't released a 64-bit optimized version of flash
[05:59] <arrrghhh> adobe suxors.
[05:59] <flaccid> arrrghhh: you answered your own question
[05:59] <arrrghhh> i do that often
[06:00] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: I do now.  Konqueror no longer locks up, but flash still isn't loading.
[06:00] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, ok 1 sec
[06:00] <arrrghhh> did you restart firefox #1
[06:00] <webpirate> anyone wanting java in 64bit use GCJ Web Browser Plugin instead of Iced tea
[06:01] <webpirate> type in about:plugins in the browser and see if flash is listed
[06:02] <Schijnn> webpirate - it is, but my only problem in FIrefox is sound.  I'm not even getting a picture in Konqueror.
[06:02] <abwhostw> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:02] <abwhostw> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:02] <webpirate> hmm..
[06:02] <webpirate> strange
[06:02] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, are you root when running the command?  ie did you put "sudo" before it to change to a super-user?
[06:02] <flaccid> !adeptfix | abwhostw (make sure no other programs using apt)
[06:03] <arrrghhh> there's that too
[06:03] <flaccid> abwhostw: it always helps if you try to tell us what you are trying to do as well, otherwise there could be many different situations with different answers
[06:03] <arrrghhh> damn i have the java fix but i don't remember wrestling with flash and sound.  did you install flash from multiple places Schijnn
[06:04] <abwhostw> abwhostw@(none):/root$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:04] <abwhostw> sudo: unable to resolve host (none)
[06:04] <arrrghhh> flaccid, let's just try to guess them all until we're blue int he face
[06:04] <webpirate> anyone know if there is a 3in1 for ubuntu 8.04?
[06:04] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Yeah, I did.  Adept and Adobe.com
[06:04] <arrrghhh> 3in1?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> 3in1 ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> That sounds perverted
[06:04] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, uninstall 'em all
[06:05] <webpirate> was a script that installed 32bit firefox, flash and java all in one shot
[06:05] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, and either stick with the one included in kubuntu-restricted-extras or the one from adobe's site.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis_> I dont mess with 64bit disrto.. so no idea
[06:05] <arrrghhh> yea i got tired of wrestling with flash in 64bit
[06:05] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Okay, how do I uninstall the one from Adobe?
[06:06] <flaccid> abwhostw: you probably stuffed up your /etc/hosts file, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/203593
[06:06] <webpirate> well flash works perfectly for me...but my java apps freeze after they are loaded..:(
[06:06] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, well there should just be a thing listed for flash in the plugins folder.  /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/plugins i think
[06:07] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, when i mean think a file ending in .so that's related to flash
[06:07] <arrrghhh> that will remove your link from flash to firefox
[06:07] <abwhostw> bash: /etc/hosts: Permission denied
[06:07] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, i think you don't understand sudo
[06:07] <arrrghhh> !sudo  | abwhostw
[06:07] <arrrghhh> please READ
[06:08] <intreq> can u guys tell me a bit why u like kubuntu?
[06:08] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, there might be a way to completely uninstall flash with dpkg...
[06:08] <arrrghhh> intreq, over ubuntu or what?  and you're opening a can of worms...
[06:08] <Dr_Willis_> 'Chicks dig men that can work in the console!'
[06:09] <Schijnn> I found it, it was in /home/<user>/.mozilla/plugins
[06:09] <arrrghhh> everybody has their own opinions as to why they use what
[06:09] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, ah yea the profile folder
[06:09] <abwhostw> <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost
[06:09] <arrrghhh> Dr_Willis_, well there are some chicks who dig geeks...
[06:09] <abwhostw> <IP_ADDRESS>       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu
[06:09] <abwhostw> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[06:09] <arrrghhh> abannari, what are you doing now
[06:09] <arrrghhh> quit it
[06:09] <abwhostw> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[06:09] <abwhostw> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[06:09] <arrrghhh> i think you're hopeless
[06:09] <abwhostw> <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost
[06:09] <webpirate> I have 3-in-1 script for 32bit firefox, java and flash if anyone wants it..
[06:09] <abwhostw> <IP_ADDRESS>       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu
[06:09] <arrrghhh> we can't help you abannari
[06:10] <arrrghhh> sorry abannari
[06:10] <abwhostw> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[06:10] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, we can't help you
[06:10] <abwhostw> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[06:10] <abwhostw> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[06:10] <arrrghhh> can we kick him or something?  lol
[06:10] <arrrghhh> !kickban | abwhostw
[06:10] <arrrghhh> lol
[06:10] <arrrghhh> do it ubottu
[06:10] <webpirate> lets all just get along..
[06:10] <arrrghhh> do my bidding
[06:11] <Dr_Willis_> !open the Pod Bay Doors Hal!
[06:11] <arrrghhh> lmao
[06:11] <webpirate> can I post a link for a 3 in one script and all this flash talk will be over
[06:11] <arrrghhh> i'm sorry... i can't let you do that dave....
[06:12] <flaccid> abwhostw: please leave.
[06:12] <webpirate> ok if you want link for 3-in-1 script for firefox java and flash PM me and I will give it to you
[06:13] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Okay, I uninstalled everything, then reinstalled kubuntu-restricted-extras, and now it doesn't even show the space where the video should be.
[06:13] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, i'm betting that symlink isn't there...
[06:13] <abwhostw> don't worry about me
[06:13] <abwhostw> cuz I install the
[06:13] <Schijnn> What symlink?
[06:13] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, download the official adobe one (don't worry about the kubuntu-restricted-extras packaage, leave it)
[06:14] <arrrghhh> extract it to your desktop, chmod +x the installer, and run it.  direct the installer to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/ (assuming that's you're ff install directory) and that should take care of it.
[06:15] <pteague> how do i restart the sound server?
[06:15] <pteague> the only alsa i'm seeing is /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[06:16] <pteague> nm... sound got set to 0
[06:16] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: If I try to install it as root, it refuses to accept any directory I give it, and if I install it as myself, it doesn't let me choose a directory.
[06:16] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, i believe you should install as root.  does the /usr/lib/firefox-3.0 directory exist?
[06:17] <webpirate> he figures that I am trying to send him a linux virus..
[06:17] <webpirate> is there even and virii for linux?
[06:17] <arrrghhh> webpirate, rootkits
[06:18] <Schijnn> No, it's just /usr/lib/firefox, besides I'm trying to get flash working in Konqueror
[06:18] <webpirate> oh...
[06:18] <webpirate> well I have a script that installs firefox32 with java and flash and mplayer..
[06:18] <webpirate> pm me if you need it..
[06:18] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, i've never gotten flash working in konqueror
[06:18] <Schijnn> My only issue with Firefox is sound
[06:19] <arrrghhh> and sound works else where i'm assuming?
[06:19] <arrrghhh> wait flash does work in konqueror...
[06:19] <webpirate> so your firefox does not play sound when playing videos or flash ?
[06:20] <arrrghhh> all i installed was kubuntu-restricted-extras, and flash works perfectly in konqueror.  are you running 64-bit kubuntu Schijnn
[06:20] <Schijnn> webpirate: right, no sound in Firefox, but it works fine elsewhere
[06:20] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: No, I'm not
[06:21] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, there's a volume control on the flash applets, you've checked both of them?  there's a some advanced settings if you right click on a flash app
[06:21] <arrrghhh> well i guess there's not a vol control there...
[06:21] <Schijnn> All I see there is Display, Privacy, Storage, Microphone, and Camera
[06:22] <arrrghhh> yea there's not a vol control there sorry.  what about the vol control that's normally on the video app?
[06:23] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, do a "sudo dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree"
[06:23] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: done
[06:24] <arrrghhh> and then install flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get or aptitude or whatever
[06:24] <arrrghhh> make sure you restart your browsers
[06:24] <arrrghhh> and if it still doesn't work there's probably something else you need to purge that i'm not aware of.  did you try to install any other flash renders like gnash?
[06:25] <webpirate> Blah...it hurts me to see all the time wasted.....
[06:26] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Yeah, but I uninstalled that a while ago.  Also, still no sound.
[06:27] <arrrghhh> webpirate, lol then you fix it
[06:27] <webpirate> :0
[06:27] <webpirate> :)
[06:27] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, and you didnt' install gnash or any of the other ones?
[06:27] <webpirate> 3in1 :)
[06:27] <arrrghhh> i can't remember any other flash renderer lol
[06:27] <arrrghhh> webpirate, lemme look at the script
[06:27] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: I just said I did, but I uninstalled it a while ago
[06:28] <webpirate> http://www.hackradio.ca/ff32-3in1-6.2.8-1.tar.gz
[06:29] <Schijnn> Also, that flashplugin-nonfree never seems to do anything.  I don't think it's connecting.
[06:29] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, oh i didn't get that part...
[06:29] <arrrghhh> and that's the package that i have
[06:29] <webpirate> I am actually gonna update the script to install firefox3
[06:29] <arrrghhh> sound works, flash works, konqueror firefox opera whatever
[06:30] <arrrghhh> webpirate, downloading a .deb from a comcast host?  that just looks baaaaaad
[06:30] <webpirate> well it works for me..
[06:31] <arrrghhh> that's cool
[06:31] <arrrghhh> kubuntu-restricted-extras got flash, java, mp3 support, and god knows what else.
[06:31] <arrrghhh> all working for me by just installing that meta-package
[06:32] <webpirate> i tried that but java applets freeze unless I use sun java :(
[06:33] <arrrghhh> bummer
[06:33] <arrrghhh> worked fine for me :P
[06:33] <Schijnn> Alright, I'm going to go and reboot, and see if that has any effect.  If not, I'll give up for now.
[06:34] <arrrghhh> lol okie
[06:34] <arrrghhh> reboot for me too
[06:36] <arrrghhh> and i'm spent
[06:38] <brandon> flaccid: Hey have you come up with any ideas (sidewinder gamepad detection)
[07:28] <webpirate> anyone having problems with amsn?
[07:29] <webpirate> My amsn won't connect.....
[07:29] <webpirate> but kopete does...
[07:29] <webpirate> any ideas?
[07:29] <flaccid> brandon: i pasted solution yesterday for you here..
[07:31] <webpirate> anyone useing amsn here?
[07:31] <flaccid> webpirate: if someone can help, they will.
[07:31] <holycow> evil has no hold over me
[07:36] <brandon> flaccid: I could not understand what you were wanting me to copy
[07:38] <flaccid> brandon: i pastebinned a new xorg.conf for you. paste your current one if you want me to do it again
[07:38] <flaccid> hmm i'll just check log
[07:39] <brandon> hold on, let me paste bin
[07:39] <flaccid> [Thu Aug 7 2008] [16:38:54] <brandon_>  flaccid: here it is any way http://paste.ubuntu.com/35011/
[07:40] <flaccid> hmmm maybe i failed to paste it, i'll just redo it
[07:41] <flaccid> give me your current one but just in  case there were changes to xorg.conf
[07:41] <brandon> where is it again...lol
[07:41] <flaccid> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <flaccid> or just open kystemlog and voila
[07:45] <brandon> flaccid"http://paste.ubuntu.com/35786/
[07:52] <flaccid> brandon: no it won't especially if the device is usb. did you put this in there? http://paste.ubuntu.com/35789/
[07:53] <brandon> no. do you want me to
[07:55] <flaccid> brandon: it already was there, what put it there?
[07:55] <brandon> o yes I put that in there thinking that is what you wanted me to do because the link you sent before you left was a forum thread about a mouse and I didn't know it would work.
[07:55] <flaccid> ok 1 sec then
[07:55] <brandon> sorry about that
[07:57] <flaccid> np. brandon give this a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ and if it doesn't work pastebin the X log. (you must restart X from kdm after updating the xorg.conf)
[08:00] <brandon> ok...give me a few
[08:01] <flaccid> k
[08:19] <happosade> What to need install to get WMA-streams works in amarok
[08:20] <flaccid> !codecs | happosade
[08:22] <flaccid> happosade: as per the link above, kubuntu-restricted-extras should do the trick
[08:28] <happosade> emmm
[08:28] <happosade> still dont work
[08:28] <happosade> whit this stream: http://akastreaming.yle.fi/vp/fiyle/no_geo/live_f.asx
[08:30] <flaccid> happosade: what happens? thing is the codec might be available, but the plugin won't be if its web
[08:30] <happosade> "not playable"
[08:30] <flaccid> happosade: yes but what says that and with what browseR?
[08:31] <flaccid> you might need to use something like mozilla-mplayer which is what im listening to it with now
[08:33] <mefisto__> happosade: in my experience amarok often fails to play audio streams when every other audio player I've tried (both xine-based and mplayer-based) will play the same stream without problems
[08:35] <crimsun> err, amarok uses libxine by default ..
[08:36] <mefisto__> is firefox 3.0 using Iced Tea java plugin by default instead of sun java?
[08:36] <flaccid> ah yes i misread, sorry..
[08:36] <flaccid> let me see what amarok does
[08:37] <flaccid> happosade: that won't play in amarok at all for me. maybe people in #amarok can help
[08:38] <flaccid> happosade: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/4378
[08:38] <flaccid> thing is i have w32codecs installed and i still can't play
[08:43] <flaccid> happosade: if i put in http://a713.l2187818713.c21878.e.lm.akamaistream.net/D/713/21878/v0001/reflector:18713?auth=da_cxaRaAazcyb7abdacjbtcOcHbTbpbVbv-biNuN1-E-qkG-p6o9&aifp=v01&WMBitRat
[08:43] <flaccid> e=&WMCache=0 manually, amarok reports no suitable input plugin, so i'd suggest using something else other than amarok.
[08:46] <mefisto__> happosade: kmplayer plays that stream. and I bet anything else you try would work too
[08:47] <flaccid> there are many reports of .asx not working in amarok at all
[08:47] <brandon> flaccid:My mouse quit working
[08:48] <crazy_bus> do all usb and other microphones work on kubuntu or are their recommended brands?
[08:50] <brandon> flaccid:my controller is still not being detected by jscalibration or joystick (peripheals)
[08:52] <brandon> flaccid: sorry bout that I restarted the xserver to get my nvidia card working again.
[08:52] <flaccid> brandon: so where is the log pastebin?
[08:53] <flaccid> did the mouse work at all?
[08:54] <flaccid> well mouse as in sidewinder, which is a joystick right?
[08:54] <brandon> flaccid:http://paste.ubuntu.com/35797/
[08:55] <flaccid> brandon: thats the xorg.conf. i want the xorg log when running this new config
[08:55] <brandon> flaccid:ksystemlog???
[08:56] <flaccid> brandon: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:56] <flaccid> [17:53] <flaccid> did the mouse work at all?
[08:56] <brandon> flaccid:The mouse would not work at all. I had to do a recovery to get it to work
[08:56] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  usb audio can be a little tricky at times. from whaat i hear in these channels.
[08:56] <flaccid> brandon: recovery?
[08:58] <mafu> Hello there. I want to have auto-login enabled (because my harddrive is already encrypted and I don't need another passphrase to access the computer), and in the control settings, it says in red writing: Attention! Read Help! Only, if I press F1, there is no help index page.. What to do? :)
[08:58] <crazy_bus> thanks Dr_willis
[08:58] <urkki> I'm on KDE 4.1 Why can't I get my installed themes to appear?
[08:58] <brandon> flaccid: I could not get it to work and can't use command line very well at all...lolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/35798/
[08:58] <Dr_willis> mafu,  just enable auto login then if you want. :)
[08:59] <mafu> Dr_willis: it's just that I'd like to know what the other options do. :)
[08:59] <Dr_willis> mafu,  never really noticed the others.  I just set it up to auto login a user after 30 sec normally. I think theres an option to not wait.
[09:00] <Dr_willis> I think it can also just auto login after a crash..  the kdm config file has a lot of comments/info on the autologin stuff as well
[09:00] <dwidmann> urkki: what sort of "themes"? Widget styles? Window Decorations? Color schemes?
[09:00] <mafu> Btw, I just saw that there IS help for it.. There are two entries named "System Settings" (next to each other), where one of them is selected at start and is empty..
[09:00] <brandon> flaccid: that probably screws up the log that you wanted to see doesn't it...
[09:00] <mafu> Dr_willis: okay, thank you. :)
[09:00] <mafu> Dr_willis: should I file a bug report for this minor thing?
[09:00] <Dr_willis> mafu,  i wouldent set it to autologin after a SHORT time - like 2 sec... set to somthing like 20-30 so you got time to do any 'changes' you may need at the kdm screen. (like select a session or so forth)
[09:01] <Dr_willis> mafu,  if you want.  I doubt if it will metter much. :P
[09:01] <urkki> I'm on KDM-manager, tab 4 "Themes"
[09:01] <flaccid> brandon: yes i don't see the mouse mentioned in there at all. paste the log when using the xorg.conf i suggested. learn to use X/kde without needing a mouse. no need to go drastic
[09:01] <urkki> dwidmann: I downloaded from there
[09:01] <dwidmann> urkki: ah, KDM themes
[09:02] <urkki> Is that the right place to change appearance?
[09:02] <mafu> Dr_willis: Okay, thanks. :)
[09:02] <dwidmann> Appearance of the boot manager? Yes.
[09:02] <dwidmann> erm
[09:02] <dwidmann> meant to say login manager
[09:02] <dwidmann> where did boot come from
[09:02] <dwidmann> bad me, bad e
[09:02] <mafu> D'oh.. The docs don't say anything about what persistent means..
[09:02] <brandon> flaccid: I had the irc ubuntu up, but could not get it to Kubuntu...lol
[09:03] <urkki> Ah, ok. But how about changing the whole look and feel of OS?
[09:03] <Dr_willis> change windowmanager/desktops :P
[09:03] <dwidmann> urkki: for the rest of the stuff, you'll want to go to system settings -> appearance
[09:03] <dwidmann> And is it me or is kde-look.org down or something
[09:04] <Dr_willis> seems down here dwidmann
[09:05] <flaccid> brandon: oh then just /join #kubuntu
[09:06] <Dr_willis> kde-look.org  isent even timing out.. firefox just tries to load and then stops... oh wait.. there ' page load errror'
[09:06] <Dr_willis> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
[09:06] <dwidmann> Opera says "Bad Response From Server"
[09:07] <brandon> flaccid:was wanting to ask you how to get the tab at the bottom to #kubuntu without a mouse
[09:07] <Dr_willis> 'bad server, no cookie!'
[09:07] <flaccid> brandon: alt + left arrow / alt + right arrow
[09:08] <flaccid> :)
[09:08] <brandon> flaccid:thanks! I'll try that xor.conf now
[09:10] <brandon> flaccid:can you give me that pastebin again
[09:11] <brandon> flaccid:sorry to be such a pain
[09:12] <flaccid> [Sat Aug 9 2008] [16:57:55] <flaccid>   np. brandon give this a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ and if it doesn't work pastebin the X log. (you must restart X from kdm after updating the xorg.conf)
[09:21] <brandon> flaccid:here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/
[09:25] <brandon> flaccid: mouse is working but sidewinder is not detected
[09:27] <Dr_willis> this is a sidewinder game pad? or a sidewinder mouse?
[09:30] <brandon> Dr_willis: Yes it is a sidewinder gamepad
[09:31] <Dr_willis> brandon,  My USB sidewinders work - some games I need to tell them the proper joystick device to use
[09:31] <Dr_willis> often games look for /dev/js0 when they should be using /dev/input/js0 now a days (or so i recall)
[09:31] <flaccid> brandon: mouse?
[09:32] <brandon> dr_willis: Mine is not a usb and I can't get it to be detected
[09:32] <flaccid> this is why we look at the log
[09:32] <spiongraz__> hi does anyone know, is there maybe already a kubuntu remix iso avail with kde4.1 integrated?
[09:32] <brandon> flaccid: mouse is working fine (microsoft explorer)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> You actually have one of those Old  Gameport ones? :) I got some of those also. You may need to load the module for it manually
[09:33] <flaccid> brandon: usb?
[09:33] <flaccid> ah good point... brandon you must also have the sidewinder kernel mod loaded
[09:33] <brandon> flaccid: mouse is usb
[09:33] <flaccid> which you should of put in /etc/modules
[09:34] <flaccid> log says (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... which suggests the xorg.conf directives i suggested are not in xorg.conf ..
[09:35] <flaccid> Dr_willis: maybe you would like to take over, i have to cook curries.
[09:35] <brandon> flaccid: is this the right one? http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/
[09:35] <flaccid> Dr_willis: here is the suggested xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ which specifies the correct device
[09:36] <flaccid> that looks like the same kind of thing
[09:36] <flaccid> i have to cook, ciao
[09:36] <Dr_willis> egads. You have an actual serial mouse?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> if not then   Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
[09:37] <Dr_willis>   is totally wrong
[09:37] <brandon> flaccid:Thank you for everything. I offer you my mother for payment....lol
[09:38] <brandon> flaccid: seriously, thanks
[09:39] <brandon> Dr_willis:I have kubuntu 8.04 (64), sidewinder gamepad, microsoft explorer usb wireless mouse.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> then your xorg.conf line is incorrect for your mouse...
[09:39] <Dr_willis> game pad has NOTHING to do with the xorg.conf
[09:40] <brandon> Dr_willis: please help cause I am a NOOB
[09:40] <_2> that conf looks like they are doing their best to completely do away with xorg.conf
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
[09:40] <Dr_willis>    or Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"  is proberly the line you need to use in the xorg.conf
[09:41] <Dr_willis> _2,  yep. they are going slowly towards a very minimal xorg.conf file
[09:42] <brandon> my mouse is working fine, but I can't get the sidewinder to be detected.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> must be ignoring the wrong mouse lines then in the xorg.conf file
[09:42] <Dr_willis> and the gamepad has NOTHING to do with the xorg.conf :)
[09:42]  * _2 wonders if the devaults will work yet...    rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;startx    .....
[09:43] <brandon> so what should I do
[09:44] <arty_> hi all
[09:44] <arty_> if I wont to mount
[09:44] <arty_> some iso like this
[09:44] <arty_> what is the reaght command
[09:44] <_2> you don't use
[09:44] <arty_> sudo mount  -o loop smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/data/SOFTWARE/!APPS!/!AUTOCAD's!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso
[09:44] <_2> enter as punct
[09:45] <arty_> _2: what you mean?
[09:45] <flaccid> Dr_willis: yes its serial, thus why i put that in there
[09:45] <_2> !enter | arty_
[09:45] <arty_> ubottu: sry
[09:45] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  gotta love all the confusing info... :)
[09:45] <flaccid> its serial...
[09:46] <arty_> some help with this command pls    sudo mount  -o loop smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/data/SOFTWARE/!APPS!/!AUTOCAD's!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso
[09:46] <Dr_willis> as for the gamepad.... he proberly needs to load the 'gameport' module , and the  lets see....
[09:46] <flaccid> so good luck. but what i can tell you is that we worked it out to be ttyS0
[09:46] <Dr_willis> and the 'sidewinder' module.
[09:46] <Dr_willis> I dont see how a 'usb' mouse can be /dev/ttyS0 :)
[09:47] <flaccid> Dr_willis: yeah we already did that yesterday, brandon just has to make sure it its loaded now or kept in /etc/modules..
[09:47] <flaccid> Dr_willis: its not usb, its serial. this is what brandon told me yesterday.
[09:47] <brandon> here is my etc/modules   http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/
[09:47] <flaccid> if it is usb, then i was misconfirmed
[09:48] <Dr_willis> he just said its working and its a microsoft explorer usb wireless mouse.... So im going to ignore the whole mouse issue.. :)
[09:48] <_2> arty_ you'll have to quote that because of special chars in it.
[09:48] <flaccid> Dr_willis: thats the other mouse...
[09:48] <brandon> The mouse is usb, but the gamepad (sidewinder) is serial. The mouse is working fine, but the sidewinder gamepad is what is not
[09:48] <arty_> _2: some exsample pls
[09:49] <_2> arty_   sudo mount -o loop "smb..." /mnt/iso
[09:49] <flaccid> technically the gamepad is a mouse brandon
[09:49] <Dr_willis> brandon,  You need to load the 'sidewinder' module for the gamepad to work
[09:49] <Dr_willis> brandon,  try 'sudo modprobe sidewinder' and see if it works.
[09:49] <brandon> ok just a sec
[09:50] <arty_> _2: thx
[09:50] <flaccid> brandon: the pastebin link you provided is not /etc/modules.
[09:50] <_2> arty_ welcome
[09:50] <Dr_willis> brandon,  you may need to load 2 modules.      'sidewinder' and 'gameport'
[09:51] <brandon> here are the modules i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/35806/
[09:52] <Dr_willis> brandon,  you may need to also load  'gameport'
[09:52] <urkki> Hmm, something wrong with kubuntu, I can't change window styles
[09:53] <brandon> here is the response I get from modprobe http://paste.ubuntu.com/35807/
[09:53] <flaccid> brandon: yeah you might need gameport even though the serial port is already accessible etc.
[09:53] <Dr_willis> brandon,  the tail end of the 'dmesg' command - will tell you any info after loading a module.
[09:53] <_2> arty_ an fyi ffr anytime you have special chars "!@#$%^&*'`~"  you will probably need to quote things.   and ! can't be quoted properly so try to avoid it or use   \!   maybe like this. .....   sudo mount -o loop smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/data/SOFTWARE/\!APPS\!/\!AUTOCAD\'s\!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso
[09:53] <flaccid> no return is good for mods
[09:54] <_2> no error means no error
[09:55] <brandon> dme56 command not found
[09:55]  * Dr_willis thinks one should 'check their spelling' when entering commands...
[09:55] <Dr_willis> :P
[09:56] <Dr_willis> 'dmesg'
[09:56] <_2> too l33t for their own 6ood
[09:56] <Dr_willis> or use some better fonts....
[09:56] <Dr_willis> :P
[09:56] <djdarkman> hello, is there a way to sync two kontacs on two seperate pcs?
[09:57] <traqn> has anybody started swish max2 on kubuntu with wine
[09:58] <flaccid> brandon: as per yesterday, we identified that dme56 is not needed or nothing to do with your sidewinder..
[09:58] <_2> arty_ for testing whether a thing needs special quoting use; echo "that specia! thang's name"
[09:58] <brandon> tell me if this is right http://paste.ubuntu.com/35808/
[09:59] <brandon> sorry I had wierd font. I changed it now
[09:59] <brandon> :)
[09:59] <_2> arty_ example    echo "my special char`s list"   <<<---- the ` will need special attention. as the shell will show
[10:00] <_2> and use ^C   or   ^D   to terminate that test...
[10:00] <flaccid> brandon: still waiting for X log when using my configuration to see what the problem is..
[10:02] <brandon> o sorry just a sec
[10:02] <brandon> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35809/
[10:03] <_2> error in config file    : Unknown parameter `##'
[10:03] <_2> modules.conf maybe ?
[10:05] <flaccid> brandon: you cannot get (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... in the log if you have specified one in xorg, which is what i did..
[10:05] <flaccid> ie. Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
[10:06] <brandon> so the sidewinder wont work?
[10:06] <_2> i think you fellows will find his problem in a module configuration file
[10:06] <_2> his dmesg says      [   45.947348] joydev: Unknown parameter `##'
[10:06] <_2>  [   45.956014] ns558: Unknown parameter `##'
[10:06] <_2>  [   45.976720] sidewinder: Unknown parameter `##'
[10:06] <flaccid> not if the user cannot configure it brandon
[10:07] <flaccid> brandon: there is also this solution which uses a different driver. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613697 unfortunately things cannot be solved if the user is new to linux/unix
[10:07] <brandon> how do I configure it? :)
[10:07] <flaccid> brandon: i already showed you and over and over you fail, so i give up.
[10:08] <flaccid> replace user and press any key :)
[10:08] <brandon> flaccid: well thanks for trying though
[10:08] <brandon> lol...
[10:09] <flaccid> thats ok. you have two solutions, so if you put your mind to it and persist, you may be able to get it
[10:09] <Dr_willis> if you load the proper modules for the gamepad.. it err.. should just work..  Im confused as to how this is related to the xorg/mouse at all.
[10:09] <flaccid> so try the second solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3827298&postcount=4  <-- those instructions should be easy to understand
[10:09] <flaccid> Dr_willis: because it doesn't just work
[10:10] <_2> !"just works"
[10:10] <_2> !""just works"
[10:10] <_2> pfft
[10:10] <flaccid> !worksforme
[10:10] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  ive also been hearing its a 'side winder gamepad' now im hearing its a 'sidewinder mouse'  Those 2 are not the same thing. :)
[10:10] <Dr_willis> SO i give up.
[10:11] <flaccid> Dr_willis: thats because microsoft called it a gamepad... bill's fault
[10:11] <sluckz> i give up for tonight as
[10:11] <sluckz> well
[10:11] <sluckz> night all
[10:11] <_2> lets all give up...
[10:11] <brandon> here are the modules I have 03:51] <brandon> here are the modules i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/35806/ tell me if this looks like the right ones
[10:11] <Dr_willis> Err... I have a sidewinder game pad, i have several.. one usb old, one gameport (very old), and a sidewinder mouse..
[10:12] <Dr_willis> So now the water is all mudy as to whats actually going on,... so good luck :)
[10:13] <brandon> ok both are made by microsoft one is the mouse (explorer) the other is gamepad (sidewinder) they were both free and I can't argue with free....lol
[10:13] <flaccid> Dr_willis: so when you say gameport, you mean rs232 serial?
[10:13] <flaccid> (db9 connector)
[10:14] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  No... I mean the old 'midi' style gameport often found on sound cards
[10:14] <_2> brandon no. line 11 12 13 are incorrect.   remove everything after the module names     anything following a module name in that file is passwd as module arguments
[10:14] <lenea> is anyone using graphics tablet?
[10:14] <_2> passed   even
[10:14] <Dr_willis> I dont recall ever seeing a 'serial' gamepad/joystick on a pc. :) (on my amiga yes) not the pc.
[10:15] <brandon> 2:ok let me try that then
[10:15] <_2> Dr_willis and on c64   but i'm with you, never saw a pc one
[10:15] <flaccid> Dr_willis: well brandon reports his is serial, plugged into a serial pci card or something. thinking back now its probably gameport and plugged into a card that is not being recognised. meh i so cbf spending time re-working now
[10:15] <Dr_willis> _2,  so this is all adding more and more to my confusion. :P
[10:16]  * _2 comes to almost the same confusion
[10:16] <Dr_willis> I think its time for brandon to go hit the wiki pages for these 'ports' and conectors and see what he actually has.
[10:17] <_2> wikipidia.org too
[10:17] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_port
[10:17] <emons> hi guys, does anybody of you use imageshack to share images on the web? well, i used to do with xp but since a use hardy im not able to upload any image, when i try it takes ages showing me the "loading" window but it just doesnt move, till it says "connection interupted". can someone help? thanks
[10:17] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_port
[10:17] <flaccid> shouldnt be hard to work it out now
[10:18] <flaccid> its either 9 or 15 pin at the end of the day despite both being d connectors
[10:18] <_2> !flash | emons maybe it's flash ?
[10:18] <brandon> I know what the ports are the gamepad (sidewinder) has a plug on it that looks like the one for my flat panel and it has 15 pins
[10:18] <_2> vga is 15 pin D   ?
[10:18] <emons> i already installed flash and it seems to work well with all the other animations and stuff
[10:18] <flaccid> brandon: right then its gameport
[10:19] <flaccid> so i wasted my time entirely
[10:19] <brandon> what do you mean
[10:19] <flaccid> i'll leave you with Dr_willis if he feels like helping
[10:19] <flaccid> brandon: gameport is 15 pins.
[10:19] <Dr_willis> Heck.. load the 2 modules.. it should work...  thats about all there is to it.
[10:19] <brandon> I know
[10:19] <flaccid> Dr_willis: reportedly 'it doesn't work' doing it like that
[10:20] <_2> emons i don't know then.   that was my only guess.
[10:20] <emons> alright thanks
[10:20] <emons> flaccid, any idea?
[10:20] <brandon> I'll load the modules and see
[10:20] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  i have to wonder how hes 'testing' that gamepad
[10:20] <flaccid> emons: world peace
[10:20] <emons> thatz a pretty cool one, i'll tell god
[10:20] <brandon> I try to use jscalibrator and joystick in the peripheals and neither can detect it
[10:21] <emons> any idea about why i cant upload images with imageshack?
[10:21] <flaccid> god doesn't exit. now im going to spend time with my curry instead of wasting it here.
[10:21] <Dr_willis> sudo modeprobe gameport
[10:21] <Dr_willis> sudo modeprobe sidewinder
[10:21] <Dr_willis> check 'dmesg' output
[10:21] <emons> c'mon flaccid, its a sunny day today, put a smile on that face and help me :D
[10:21] <flaccid> Dr_willis: and just a reminder, there is this solution if 'zero config' in xorg.conf fails (again): http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3827298&postcount=4
[10:22] <flaccid> emons: people will help you if they can/want to
[10:22] <Dr_willis> as a test one could do 'cat /dev/input/js0' and see if anything gets spit out   ctrl-c to close the 'cat' test
[10:22] <brandon> Dr_willis: modprobe returned nothing
[10:22] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  err.. thats for a sidewinder mouse.. not a sidewinder gamepad.
[10:22] <emons> i no flaccid, but i also no u helped me in the past, and that was a pretty good help, u solved like 3 of my probs, thatz why i want you :D
[10:22] <Dr_willis> brandon,  we covered that earlier..  modeprobe is not very verbose in its output if things get loaded..
[10:22] <_2> od would be prettier output than cat...
[10:23] <emons> dont u remember the statue i said i'd raise up for u? eheheh
[10:23] <flaccid> Dr_willis: if they are different products then i was mislead as we identified it as serial but now its gameport..
[10:23] <brandon> I was jsut letting you know so we don't get confused about any of this.
[10:23] <flaccid> emons: well helpers get pissed with people pinging them when they should ask in the channel. so you won't get help from me like that
[10:23] <flaccid> !u | emons
[10:24] <Dr_willis> I think the correct joystick device is /dev/input/js0 now a days...
[10:24] <emons> flaccid? i'm not pinging you at all... what are you talking about?? alright as i u want...
[10:24] <brandon> cat says command not found
[10:25] <flaccid> emons: im referring to [19:20] <emons> flaccid, any idea? <-- dont do that
[10:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. if the command 'cat' is not found.. You either did a major typo.. or are missing some very fundamental commands
[10:26] <_2> or /bin not in path
[10:26] <flaccid> meh milk is sour, i'll be back after de stressing from lack of compensation
[10:27] <brandon> i'm sorry it says no such directory not command not found
[10:28] <emons> sorry mate, that was just because _2 said he had no other "guesses" no other "ideas" about how to solve my problem, then i see you in the channel, remembered the way you helped me the last times and thought: let's ask flaccid. don't see how that could be rude or mean, or however you took it. sorry mate, was only asking for help...
[10:28] <_2> brandon ls /dev/input
[10:28] <Dr_willis> it may be /dev/js0 or /dev/input/SOMTHINGELSE Im not on a ubunttu box wth a game pad to double check what its called now2 a days
[10:28] <Dr_willis> this is what 'dmesg' would of mentioned at the end. after you loaded the modules succesuffly
[10:28] <emons> too late...
[10:30] <emons> alright, bye guys, take it easy
[10:32] <_2> i think it needs to be /dev/input/*   for the tools afore mentioned to work.
[10:32] <brandon> here is what i get from ls /dev/input  http://paste.ubuntu.com/35819/
[10:33] <Dr_willis> if theres no /dev/js* or /dev/input/js* devices *(where * is a #) then either you need to load a few more modules.. or the device is not seen properly.  si my guess
[10:34] <florian> Hi! With the standard apt-sources after installing kubuntu (kde4), do i get kde4.1 updated automatically sometimes?
[10:35] <Dr_willis> I was thinking there was to be a change to make gamepads show up on some other devices.. but never seen that happen yet.
[10:35] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[10:35] <_2> brandon   sudo mknod /dev/input/js0 c 13 0     # would make the device node. but i suspect that udev should have already made it 'IF' the module was inserted and the device activated    i'll  try to not confuse this issue any farther
[10:35] <florian> Dr_willis: thanks!
[10:36] <Dr_willis> given all the modules he has been trying to load/handload.. it may be best if he just rebooted with the gamepad plugged in. and see what dmesg shows up and if it works then.
[10:36] <Dr_willis> Hard telling what other extra modules are loaded now
[10:37] <brandon> _2: do i include th # with that?
[10:37] <_2> brandon doesn't matter.  the # is a comment which will cause bash to ignore the rest of the line.
[10:37] <brandon> ok
[10:38] <brandon> it's there now
[10:39] <shamil> could anyone in here help me out with luks password changing over lvm?
[10:39] <Dr_willis> manually making the device node... is proberly NOT going to help.. :)
[10:39] <_2> brandon   od /dev/input/js0     # and move the stick to see if it outputs anything.
[10:40] <_2> Dr_willis only for a test case.   only for a test case.
[10:40] <shamil> i found as many instructions as possible for changing a luks password, but none pertain to luks over lvm partitions
[10:40] <Dr_willis> Yea. :) i would definiatly say a reboot after all these testings would be a good idea
[10:40] <brandon> let me reboot then and we can see what happens...:)
[10:41] <_2> brandon did you correct your /et
[10:41] <_2> never mind
[10:41] <_2> /etc/modules  file
[10:42]  * Dr_willis runs away and hides
[10:42] <_2> if he didn't,  reboot will help nothing.
[10:42] <_2> and is un-needed anyway.
[10:43] <_2> one could use modprobe w/-r  to achieve the same end
[10:44] <Dr_willis> given how long it took to just get anything done....... it will proberly take him 3 hrs to reboot
[10:44] <Agent_bob> :)
[10:47] <brandon> still not detecting the device on /dev/input/js0
[10:48] <brandon> what should /etc/modules say?
[10:48] <brandon> should I have something specifying a location for any of those modules
[10:49] <Dr_willis> You simply give the module name to be loaded
[10:50] <Dr_willis> the 'lsmod' command will show what modules are loaded/inuse
[10:50] <Agent_bob> inuse ?
[10:51] <Agent_bob> oh  heh  in use   sorry.  i'm slow
[10:51] <brandon> thanks Agent-bob
[10:51] <Agent_bob> welcome
[10:51] <brandon> I downloaded them so should i restart X
[10:51] <Dr_willis> and its also possible you need to load the proper module for whatever soundcard/device the gamepad is plugged into.
[10:52] <Dr_willis> downloaded them? Huh?
[10:52] <brandon> Agant_bob sent some modules to me
[10:52] <Agent_bob> be back in a few   have to make rounds.
[10:52] <Dr_willis> that shouldent of been needed.
[10:52] <Agent_bob> brandon no i corrected you /etc/modules   and sent it to you.
[10:53] <Agent_bob> your
[10:53] <brandon> thanks
[10:54] <Dr_willis> its possible he needs to load the ---> emu10k1-gp
[10:54] <Dr_willis>   module also. if he has a creative soundcard
[10:54] <Dentharg> Hi
[10:55] <Dentharg> I am new to Kubuntu; browsing FAQs, launchpad I did not find whether a binary package for KDevelop4 has been released.
[10:55] <Dentharg> Can I get it from somewhere?
[10:56] <Dentharg> I already am using KDE4.1
[10:57] <Hybrid> i have some problems with my usb's, they wont find anything, could anyone help me out?
[10:59] <brandon> let me restart my x-server
[10:59]  * Dr_willis missed what the X server has to do with this...
[11:03] <mefisto__> if I install kubuntu 64bit alongside 32bit (dual-boot) what can be shared between the two? can I use the same home dir? can both use the same swap partition? etc...
[11:04] <brandon> dr_willis: I really appreciate your help along with everyone elses. But, I have to get to sleep, I have to get up in 2 hours.
[11:04] <Dentharg> mefisto__: I would assume that /home can be freely shared
[11:04] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,   personally i wouldent even mess with  64bit - unless you really needed it.
[11:04] <brandon> Yea I am findinf out the hard way huh
[11:05] <brandon> finding
[11:05] <brandon> Good night to you all and maybe we can caht tomorrow
[11:05] <mefisto__> Dr_willis: speaking from experience? that's why I want to dual-boot, so I can try it and compare before maybe abandoning 32bit
[11:05] <brandon> chat
[11:06] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  most likely you will gain very little at this time.. Unless you just have to use more then 4+gb of ram.. or have other special needs
[11:08] <mefisto__> speaking of ram, does 32bit linux make all 4gb of ram available? I hear 32bit windows cannot (4gb ram will appear as 3.2gb or something like that)
[11:12] <Dr_willis> if you have EXACTLY 4gb of ram..  'it depends' :)
[11:13] <Dr_willis> and its a deep and complex issue. in short   various hardware/drivers  can take away from the total amount of ram that  the machine 'could use' thus  taking bites out of the 4gb limit.
[11:14] <Dr_willis> ive seen it range from 3.2 gb to 3.8 gb of the 4gb thats seen..
[11:18] <gnumm> does anyone know if kde4.2 will be in backports or in PPA in kubuntu 8.10?
[11:53] <tim_> if i tick a box in firefox 3.0 there is no cross in the box, but the whole area becomes white, it's the same with the boxes in the compiz-ccsm window
[11:54] <flaccid> tim_: which theme?
[11:54] <jagguli> hi all ... im running the latest ubuntu server kernel 2.6.24-19-server my X hang everyday .... anyone else with similar problems ..
[11:55] <jagguli> i cant seem to figure out wats wrong .. nothing unusual in the logs .. happens when i leave the system running overnight
[11:56] <flaccid> jagguli: you could try reporting a bug with as much info as possible i guess
[11:56] <jagguli> thats the problem .. cant find anything in the logs
[11:56] <jagguli> so i dont know what is causing it ..
[11:56] <flaccid> which usually suggests hardware or a more in depth bug or something
[11:57] <jagguli> i suspect its the intel video drivers
[11:57] <flaccid> whys that?
[11:57] <jagguli> the display gets hung up but everything else is fine. ..
[11:57] <jagguli> amarok is playing .. serverts r running etc
[11:58] <flaccid> that doesn't mean its the driver. still you can run the vesa driver to rule this out
[11:58] <tim_> flaccid: im using the standart theme, didnt change anything
[11:58] <jagguli> to create the senario i have to leave the computer inactive for long .. when i sleep and wake up .. its hung ...
[11:58] <GerrySly> how do I do this: http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2555/screenshotbd4.png on kubuntu
[11:59] <flaccid> tim_: ah ok. i guess you could submit a bug with either mozilla or lp
[11:59] <flaccid> jagguli: oh. that could be quite a few things. not sure if i can help
[11:59] <jagguli> GerrySly: use superkaramba
[11:59] <jagguli> ... hmmm
[12:00] <jagguli> i think its kwin
[12:00] <jagguli> cuz today ...it was hung up as usual ...
[12:00] <flaccid> GerrySly: do what exactly? it looks like gnome to me
[12:00] <jagguli> and i killed kwin
[12:00] <GerrySly> flaccid: put the application as the background
[12:01] <jagguli> an it worked
[12:01] <jagguli> apt-get install superkaramba
[12:01] <jagguli> GerrySly:apt-get install superkaramba
[12:01] <flaccid> GerrySly: i don't know. we don't support gnome here.
[12:02] <tim_> if i press alt+f2(run-command) it only opens in background
[12:02] <mefisto__> tim_: I got rid of the firefox annoyance by installing kde-style-qtcurve and gtk2-engines-qtcurve, then in systemsettings, appearance, set gtk apps to use qtcurve style
[12:02] <GerrySly> flaccid: I know that, I wanted to know how to do it on KDE lol which is why I asked
[12:03] <flaccid> GerrySly: im not aware of functionality to run an application as a wallpaper, sorry
[12:03] <flaccid> GerrySly: #kde might be able to help
[12:03] <tim_> mefisto__: thx, i'll try
[12:03] <flaccid> GerrySly: you might wanna be more specific with your questions if you don't want answers like that...
[12:03] <GerrySly> well I got an answer from jagguli then you responded
[12:04] <flaccid> jagguli: superkaramba can run an application as wallpaper?
[12:05] <mefisto__> tim_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/194624
[12:06] <tim_> everytime i try to install something i get this
[12:06] <tim_> After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[12:06] <tim_> Richte sun-java6-doc ein (6-06-0ubuntu1) ...
[12:06] <tim_> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[12:06] <tim_> JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[12:06] <tim_> archives:
[12:07] <tim_>     jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-doc-ja.zip
[12:07] <flaccid> !pastebin | tim_
[12:07] <tim_> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[12:07] <checkob> hi, i gem uninstalled one of the base ruby packages and now ruby crashes with this error: no such file to load -- rbconfig (LoadError), even uninstalling and reinstall doesnt help
[12:07] <tim_> Please visit
[12:07] <tim_>     http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/
[12:07] <tim_> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[12:07] <tim_> to /tmp.
[12:07] <tim_> [Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort]
[12:07] <tim_> how can i abort this
[12:07] <flaccid> tim_: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:07] <tim_> flaccid: apt-get install something
[12:08] <flaccid> this is german?
[12:08] <tim_> yes
[12:08] <mefisto__> tim_: doesn't it abort if you type no, then enter ?
[12:08] <flaccid> tim_: what does richte mean?
[12:08] <tim_> mefisto__: yes, but i cannot install anything
[12:09] <mefisto__> tim_: you get that message for everything??
[12:09] <tim_> yes
[12:09] <flaccid> i would purge sun-* then go from there
[12:09] <tim_> flaccid: what is purge?
[12:10] <flaccid> tim_: its an action to completely remove a package in apt or adept
[12:10] <tim_> just type purge sun-*?
[12:10] <tim_> as root?
[12:10] <flaccid> tim_: nope
[12:11] <tim_> apt-get purge?
[12:11] <flaccid> tim_: sudo apt-get remove --purge "sun-*"
[12:11] <flaccid> after that test it. then after that install java as required.
[12:14] <tim_> ok nthx
[12:14] <jagguli> GerrySly:http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8483/snapshot3ak6.png
[12:14] <jagguli> GerrySly:something like this?
[12:40] <lakis1982> i have installed kubuntu 8.04.1 kernel <IP_ADDRESS> update , but when i i boot the pc and  in the menu i select to boot from the new kernel , it doesnt get me into graphical enviroment ... i am in a " dos " like enviroment and i login there and it stays in dos ... it just says this ,  kinit : no resume image , doing normal boot
[12:41] <flaccid> lakis1982: goto a tty and login and check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to seee what failed
[12:41] <lakis1982> how do i do that ?
[12:43] <flaccid> lakis1982: ctrl + alt + f2
[12:51] <flaccid> ok im off
[12:53] <risu> hellow
[13:11] <_d4vid> Official Uzbek Ubuntu Support Channel #ubuntu-uz *for download of ubuntu latest stable release use http://ubuntu.uz
[13:40] <Fuduy> is there any way of increasing the mouse wheel to above 12?
[13:52] <timo> hi there, how do i know my laptop keyboard chipset? I want to get the latest driver for my laptop keyboard..
[13:52] <timo> !keyboard
[13:52] <timo> hmm that's no use
[14:41] <happosade> whit what encode .iso DVD to .avi ?
[14:41] <happosade> !encode dvd
[14:41] <happosade> !dvd
[14:45] <Anubi> hi guys. short question: i want to install Kubuntu 804 on a hdd with win
[14:51] <Anubi> my partition scheme is this: sda1, sda5, sda6 and sda7 are ntfs partitions. sda8, sda9 are ext3 and sda10 is swap. i deleted sda9 and sda8 to make just one ext3 partition and i have only one ext3 partition, but it's asking me Location for the new partition: Beginning or End.
[14:52] <Anubi> i'm a little confused, since my ext3 partition and swap partition are the last partitions on my hdd
[14:55] <Anubi> so...what should i do?
[14:58] <dschulz> Anubi: to be sure you should see the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[14:59] <dschulz> try to understand how your partitions are arranged on disk
[15:02] <yncx> que se dice por este lado
[15:04] <ubuntu> where i can put an screenshot with my partition scheme ?
[15:11] <yncx> nadie habla espanol aqui entonces/
[15:11] <yncx> me voy entonce no hay na que hacer aqui
[15:25] <faileas> Anubi: tinypic might work
[15:41] <concernedcitizen> hey guys what's the remix version all abt?
[15:43] <brmassa> Guys, Kubuntu HARDY is not detecting my new SATA HDD. what should i do?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> !konversation
[16:09] <BluesKaj> !Konversation
[16:09] <BluesKaj> !info Konversation
[16:10] <BluesKaj> hmm, wonder when the 1.1 version will be available in the repos
[16:11] <RobiX> hi 2 all
[16:12] <RobiX> i use kubuntu and windows (dual boot) - what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> RobiX, dunno for sure but personally I would use my internel drive for linux (ext3) and let windows (NTFS) reside on the external. It also depends on the uses you have planned for the external drive.
[16:18]  * faileas tends to go for NTFS
[16:18] <faileas> or fat32
[16:20] <gnumm> faileas: for what?
[16:20] <faileas> "what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?"
[16:21] <faileas> NTFS on linux seems to work better than ext2/3 on windows. fat32 should work on anything with no issues
[16:21] <gnumm> what do you want to do with?
[16:21] <gnumm> which operating system?
[16:22] <faileas> RobiX: you missed the original question ;p
[16:22] <faileas> oops
[16:23] <faileas> i mean gnumm - some asked about in in a kubuntu/windows envitonment
[16:27] <RobiX> faileas: ;)
[16:28] <RobiX> BluesKaj: and => 50% Windows, 50% Kubuntu - NTFS, too?
[16:30] <ubuntu> question: can i install kubuntu on a usb hdd ?
[16:31] <ubuntu> how can i do that ?
[16:37] <abby87> ubuntu: kindly refer to this link http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[16:38] <ubuntu> 10x abby
[16:38] <abby87> ubuntu:dunno if u like fedora or not but fedora supports persistance right in it http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo
[16:39] <abby87> ubuntu: :-)
[16:42] <emons> hello when i open a webpage sometimes this message appears "you have chosen to open index.php which is a php file from http://www.blabla.com what should firefox do with this file?" and then it wants me to chose the application i'd like to open the file with instead of just opening the page i selected. why does it do like this? how can i fix this? thank you"
[16:44] <abby87> emons: Firefox->Preferences->Content->File Types->Manage
[16:45] <emons> thanks for your help, i'll try it right away
[16:45] <abby87> emons: select your file type & click "Change action"
[16:46] <emons> sorry but there's no "file type" under "content"
[16:47] <abby87> emons: try typing about:config in firefox address bar
[16:47] <abby87> emons: search for extensionx
[16:47] <abby87> *extensions
[16:48] <abby87> emons: change browser.download.hide_plugins_without_extensions to false
[16:49] <emons> sorry abbey but im a brand newbie and i dunno how to do that :D
[16:50] <abby87> emons: any site wic this prob occours?
[16:50] <emons> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Support then select "documentation"
[16:50] <emons> when i click on it, it tells what i said before
[16:51] <abby87> emons: wic link wen clicked does the prob occour... ? coz the prob is not occouring here
[16:52] <emons> i told u its documentation
[16:52] <abby87> emons: that's the sites problem i guess its not documentation
[16:53] <emons> cuz the thing is, its not the only site that does that
[16:53] <emons> so u think its not firefox or kubuntu's prob?
[16:53] <abby87> emons: *correction >that's the sites problem i guess its not ur firefox
[16:53] <emons> alright cool
[16:53] <emons> thank u
[16:53] <abby87> emons: u can always ask in the firefox channel
[16:54] <abby87> emons: its #firefox
[16:55] <newk> i have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip <IP_ADDRESS> and doesnt allow access to the internet
[16:55] <emons> ah ok thank you abby. didn't no about that chan
[16:55] <emons> thanks mate
[16:56] <newk> i have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip <IP_ADDRESS> and doesnt allow access to the internet
[16:56] <abby87> emons: u welcome ..but still i think its just a bug in the site design ...don't worry much ...coz same prob is happening on my comp
[16:57] <abby87> newk: u did any changes to ur connection ?
[16:58] <emons> the thing is, i wanted to open "documentation" to solve some probs that i have on my kubuntu cuz i wasnt feeling to ask here but since it doesnt open it i guess ill have to :D
[16:58] <newk> no i tryed ... afterwards but it jus goes bac to the same
[16:58] <abby87> emons: fire away
[16:59] <juray> hi
[16:59] <abby87> newk: wired internet ...is it direct connection ? i mean some adsl router and stuff u using?
[16:59] <juray> is there somebody who can help my with KDE?
[16:59] <newk> ethernet wired into the back
[16:59] <abby87> juray: hi juray
[16:59] <abby87> juray: sure we can
[17:00] <juray> ok its not to be a big problem only...
[17:00] <abby87> juray: wats ur prob ...if its a purely kde prob u can get better help on #kde ...
[17:01] <emons> fire away? wath u mean? :D
[17:01] <juray> if i swtch to the other desktop i dont want to see the window header in panel
[17:01] <abby87> newk: so as soon as u installed kububtu did it connect without any configuration?
[17:01] <emons> it happened the same to me by the way
[17:02] <emons> and now it goes slower than ever
[17:02] <abby87> juray: kde which version?
[17:02] <newk> abby87: perfect no problem... but unfortunately there was a hard shutdown and this seemed to affect it
[17:02] <juray> how to detect a kde version
[17:03] <abby87> juray:open any window> help > about KDE
[17:03] <abby87> newk: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:04] <juray> K Desktop Enviroment. Release 3.5.9
[17:04] <abby87> newk: have u tried ifconfig
[17:04] <abby87> newk: ?
[17:05] <newk> abby87 i tried it but im not sure exactly wat the command to do is
[17:05] <newk> ?
[17:05] <abby87> juray: u checked that in konversation window?
[17:05] <juray> no
[17:06] <juray> i opened some directory
[17:06] <abby87> newk: ifconfig will show the network interfaces on ur comp so open a terminal type ifconfig and any interface u have is listed
[17:07] <newk> abby87: there is 3
[17:07] <newk> eth0, eth0:avahi and lo
[17:07] <newk> as far as i no it was always eth0
[17:07] <abby87> juray: i dunno bout kde 3.XX versions much but still try this right click on panel>task manager settings >check only show tasks from current desktop
[17:08] <abby87> newk: lo is the loopback interface
[17:08] <abby87> newk: so lo is no prob ...avahi is the alien here...
[17:08] <newk> abby87: yeah wat is that ?
[17:09] <abby87> newk: u using a laptop??
[17:09] <newk> abby87: no main computer
[17:09] <newk> abby87: i hav ubuntu installed on my laptop and had it installed on this bu then something went wrong so i taut id try kubuntu
[17:09] <newk> its installed with wubi by the way
[17:09] <abby87> newk: sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop
[17:10] <newk> abby87: still the wrong settings and all..
[17:10] <mefisto__> juray: right-click panel, Configure panel, then go to Taskbar, and select the boxes there, the way you want it to work
[17:11] <abby87> newk: this should work mostly ..coz avahi daemon was causing probs (i guess)
[17:11] <newk> restart do any good?
[17:13] <abby87> newk: restart is such a windowishly stupid thing to do...its linux
[17:13] <mefisto__> newk: did ifconfig show an i.p. number for eth0, or just <IP_ADDRESS>   ?
[17:13] <newk> mefisto__: jus <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:14] <newk> abby87: sorry bout that ,... thanks for help .. i am a linux noob
[17:14] <newk> mefisto__: in fact only kde network manager shows an ip address for eth0
[17:14] <mefisto__> newk: what does it say when you do: cat /etc/network/interfaces   ?  still <IP_ADDRESS> for eth0  ?
[17:15] <abby87> newk: no don't be sorry and stuff ...its just one of the best things of linux ..bye-bye to warm booting
[17:16] <newk> mefisto__: it says nothing about eth0 at all jus lo
[17:17] <abby87> newk: did u disable avahi daemon by that command  sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop
[17:17] <abby87> ?
[17:17] <newk> abby87: yeah
[17:18] <abby87> newk: so now its working fine ? is it?
[17:18] <newk> abby87: no still nothing
[17:19] <newk> abby87: would it b possible its jus lik my ip address and all those configurations are wrong
[17:19] <newk> abby87: but i didnt change the,
[17:19] <abby87> newk: where & when do u see the <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:20] <newk> abby87: down in the bottom left tray inknetworkmanager thats the ip it gives for the "connection" i hav
[17:21] <abby87> newk: does it affect ur connection speed and stuff?  earlier was it showing ur original ip?
[17:21] <newk> abby87: there is no speed watso ever there is no connection to the internet. i dont no about earlier it was just workin no problem
[17:23] <abby87> newk: it doesn't connect at all ?
[17:23] <abby87> newk: have u confirmed with ur network provider?
[17:24] <newk> abby87: in the tray it looks lik it connects but it doesnt go to any websites like..
[17:24] <newk> abby87: if i ping my router and it doesnt respond does that mean no connection
[17:24] <mefisto__> newk: try this. right-click the knetworkmanager icon, manual configuration. disable eth0, and then enable it again
[17:24] <newk> abby87: my wireless internet is workin perfect on my laptop
[17:25] <newk> mefisto__ i did but to my eyes the "ip address" it gives is wrong
[17:25] <abby87> newk: right click tray icon >options>go to online mode
[17:26] <newk> abby87:its alredi on online mode
[17:26] <mefisto__> what ip address does it show?
[17:26] <mefisto__> zeros again?
[17:27] <newk> mefisto:yeah ...
[17:27] <amerigo> ! browser
[17:28] <amerigo> ! navigation
[17:28] <amerigo> ! modem
[17:28] <mefisto__> newk: you could try to manually configure it, put in the ip address you want (eg, <IP_ADDRESS>) and see if that wakes things up
[17:28] <newk> mefisto__: as far as i no its lik automatic dchp and i dont no the gateway
[17:29] <amerigo> I gotta a problem in navogation
[17:29] <abby87> !factiod
[17:29] <amerigo> navigation sorry
[17:29] <abby87> !factoid
[17:29] <amerigo> line is up
[17:29] <amerigo> wifi router works
[17:30] <amerigo> in browser : the page request is displaied for a second...
[17:30] <amerigo> then disappears
[17:30] <amerigo> and i got a error
[17:30] <amerigo> broser protection not found
[17:31] <amerigo> .... some tips?
[17:31] <amerigo> ! vista
[17:31] <newk> mefisto: abby87: thanks for the help... guess ill jus hav to keep trying thanks anyway
[17:31] <abby87> newk: try #ubuntu maybe those guys can help
[17:31] <laci__> I just installed compiz but it doesnt do anything, although I tried to change desktop effects. I cant see any change in visuals.. Any idea?
[17:32] <Dr_willis> You did enable compiz? you do have the proper 3d video card drivers isntalled?
[17:33] <mefisto__> newk: you can try it, then change back to dhcp later. click configure interface button, put in a ip address, and netmask just choose the first in the list.
[17:33] <laci__> yes I have an ATI HD2400 pro, but with the default driver, not the latest catalyst
[17:33] <Dr_willis> theres 'default' as in the 'ati' driver.. then theres the 'fglrx' drivers that are in the repos..
[17:33] <abby87> mefisto__: can it be a prob of knetworkmanager?
[17:33] <anthony> this is my first day using kubuntu comming from open suse 11.0 and i do have to say i am impressed
[17:34] <Dr_willis> then theres the 'latest' :)  not in the repos.
[17:34] <newk> mefisto__:interestingly im back on windows xp on same computer and theres a problem wit the internet
[17:35] <mefisto__> abby87: I suppose it could be. I've had trouble with it before. but I'm far from expert in network stuff
[17:35] <abby87> newk: so its a prob wth ur service provider ?
[17:35] <mefisto__> newk: sorry for asking the obvious, but are all your cables, etc plugged in ok?
[17:35] <laci__> compiz says "engine is installed on your system"
[17:35] <newk> abby87: wel i dont get it .. im using this laptop to talk on the same service provider... the same router lik
[17:36] <newk> mefisto__: thats wat i was thinkin for a second but they are yeah
[17:36] <abby87> newk: but its not working on windows xp u said...is ur interface card working?
[17:36] <abby87> newk: on windows try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:36] <laci__> i can change effects level, but when i click apply nothing happens
[17:37] <abby87> newk: if u dont get reply then ur ethernet card maybe at fault
[17:37] <afeijo> hi folks, I lost my toolbar on my kde3, how to restore?
[17:37] <newk> abby87: im gettin a replky
[17:37] <fumanchu182> afeijo: do you mean your panel menu at the bottom?
[17:37] <afeijo> yes
[17:38] <mefisto__> newk: try doing a shutdown, leave it powered off for a few seconds, then start up again. maybe your ethernet hardware is playing games with you
[17:38] <fumanchu182> did you delete it?
[17:38] <abby87> newk: try ipconfig/all on windows ..does it show <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[17:38] <fumanchu182> or move it?
[17:39] <fumanchu182> afeijo: ?
[17:39] <DreamCaster> OMG 8.04 is really different from 7th edition
[17:39] <fumanchu182> DreamCaster: this is my first time using 8.04
[17:39] <fumanchu182> it is spiffy
[17:39] <newk> abby87: no it shows a ip address 169.254.
[17:39] <newk> thtas
[17:39] <newk> not
[17:39] <newk> the rite
[17:39] <newk> ips
[17:39] <newk> abby87: tho lik its usually 192.168.blah.blah
[17:39] <abby87> newk:but no connection
[17:39] <abby87> newk: ?
[17:39] <newk> abby87: none
[17:40] <abby87> newk: so its ur h/w at fault
[17:40] <afeijo> fumanchu182: I reply: yes
[17:40] <abby87> newk: if it doesnt work on windows and on linux then its h/w
[17:40] <newk> abby87: i knew it didnt seem rite for linux to do something lik that :)
[17:40] <mefisto__> newk: try powering off, wait, then start up again.
[17:40] <amerigo> ! vista
[17:41] <fumanchu182> that ip range 168.254 is a special range
[17:41] <newk> mefisto__: doin that now... thanks again ...
[17:41] <fumanchu182> it means your dhcp is messed up
[17:41] <newk> fumanchu182: oh brilliant......
[17:41] <fumanchu182> afeijo: did you delete it or move it? you can't reply yes to both...
[17:42] <afeijo> fumanchu182: oh, those was to me.  I did nothing, no delete nor move, maybe some accident click but I'm not that stupid lol
[17:42] <afeijo> I rebooted already
[17:42] <fumanchu182> did it come back?
[17:42] <afeijo> no
[17:42] <afeijo> I use autohide
[17:42] <fumanchu182> okay what i would lik eyou to do is right click on your desktop
[17:43] <fumanchu182> and click configure desktop
[17:43] <newk> mefisto: do i wait for ages or wat?
[17:43] <afeijo> fumanchu182: ok
[17:43] <fumanchu182> oh wait
[17:43] <fumanchu182> in 3.5.9 you can't get ot your panels tha way
[17:43] <fumanchu182> eww
[17:43] <afeijo> alt+space and what prog?
[17:43] <afeijo> or alt+f2 ?
[17:43] <fumanchu182> trying to remember hold on
[17:44] <afeijo> in kde4 is plasma
[17:44] <fumanchu182> are you on kde4?
[17:44] <fumanchu182> i am on 3..59
[17:44] <afeijo> no, 3
[17:44] <DreamCaster> ermm how can i add repositories in new kubuntu version?
[17:44] <afeijo> I have 4 but stop using for some bugs I found
[17:44] <mefisto__> do you want to start the panel?
[17:45] <fumanchu182> use kicker
[17:45] <fumanchu182> alt+ft
[17:45] <fumanchu182> alt+f2->kicker
[17:45] <mefisto__> alt+f2, kicker
[17:45] <fumanchu182> thanks mefisto__
[17:45] <fumanchu182> my typing is less than stellar, i just woke up to ubuntu telling me it was finished installing :)
[17:46] <abby87> DreamCaster: open /etc/apt/sources.list in ur favourite text editor
[17:46] <abby87> DreamCaster: u must have root/sudo privilages to do that
[17:47] <fumanchu182> so i have an alias in a bash rc file that i use from my old suse distro
[17:47] <afeijo> I heard a sound, thats all with kicker
[17:47] <fumanchu182> hold on
[17:47] <newk> mefisto__: not workin after shutdown
[17:47] <DreamCaster> abby87 thanks a lot :)
[17:48] <abby87> DreamCaster: ;)
[17:48] <amerigo>  ! windows in italiano
[17:48] <Dr_willis> !it
[17:49] <mefisto__> newk: the only other thing I can think of is try the ethernet cable to the working one (laptop?) in the non-working one. might just be a bad cable. It's not impossible
[17:49] <fumanchu182> afeijo: alt+ft, konsole
[17:49] <abby87> newk: try asking ur service provider...or try it again with a spare ethernet card
[17:49] <abby87> newk: better first try with a spare ethernet card
[17:50] <newk> abby87, mefisto__: thanks very much for all the help ... appreciated
[17:50] <abby87> newk: ;-0
[17:50] <afeijo> ok
[17:50] <afeijo> konsole open
[17:50] <abby87> newk: sorry wrong one ;0
[17:50] <mefisto__> at least network cards are cheap to replace
[17:50] <abby87> :)
[17:50] <fumanchu182> run kicker
[17:50] <fumanchu182> you should get an error
[17:50] <fumanchu182> saying it is already running
[17:51] <abby87> is there any keyboard shortcut for kickoff(kde4.1)?
[17:51] <afeijo> yes, kill it?
[17:51] <fumanchu182> no
[17:51] <fumanchu182> i think you have a Hidden=true in your kde config file
[17:51] <fumanchu182> i am just tyring to remember which one has that setting
[17:52] <afeijo> hmm
[17:52] <fumanchu182> it is a little different from my open suse 11.0 distro and i have been on this thing for about all of an hour :)
[17:52] <fumanchu182> "/home/anthony/.kde/share/autostart/
[17:52] <fumanchu182> hit that directory
[17:52] <fumanchu182> but obviously but your username where "anthony" is
[17:52] <fumanchu182> s/anthony/yourusername/g
[17:53] <afeijo> I dont have autostart dir
[17:53] <fumanchu182> hmm odd
[17:53] <fumanchu182> you do have a .kde directory right?
[17:53] <afeijo> it has applnk, apps, config, locale, mimelnk, services, servicetypes, wallpapers
[17:53] <fumanchu182> go into config
[17:53] <afeijo> I'm at /home/feijo/.kde/share
[17:53] <afeijo> lots of file at config
[17:54] <fumanchu182> vim kickerrc
[17:54] <afeijo> ok, I use nano
[17:54] <afeijo> autohidedelay=0
[17:54] <fumanchu182> well that
[17:54] <mefisto__> afeijo: /home/feijo/.kde/Autostart     uppercase A
[17:54] <afeijo> autohidepanel=true
[17:54] <fumanchu182> set it to false
[17:55] <fumanchu182> then restart your x session
[17:55] <afeijo> autohideswitch=true, keep that?
[17:55] <fumanchu182> no
[17:55] <fumanchu182> well yes
[17:55] <fumanchu182> but don't deit
[17:55] <fumanchu182> but don't save
[17:55] <fumanchu182> i want you do to this
[17:55] <fumanchu182> get out of nano
[17:55] <fumanchu182> cp kickerrc kickerrc.back
[17:55] <fumanchu182> just in case
[17:55] <fumanchu182> :)
[17:55] <newk> abby87, mefisto__: workin:):):):)
[17:55] <afeijo> ok
[17:56] <fumanchu182> i just have  rule of thumb that if i am messing with settings files i do a quick backup
[17:56] <afeijo> mefisto__: no existent
[17:56] <fumanchu182> what is 4 seconds of typing compared to half and hour of more or headacches
[17:56] <afeijo> to reestart x I logoff and logon?
[17:56] <fumanchu182> yeah or hit alt+ctr+delete
[17:56] <afeijo> its not windows! lol
[17:56] <fumanchu182> but you can't logoff w/o your kicker right?
[17:57] <fumanchu182> alt+Ctr+del resets x sessions
[17:57] <fumanchu182> err backspace
[17:57] <fumanchu182> alt+ctrl+bksp
[17:57] <mefisto__> you can also right-click desktop to log off
[17:57] <fumanchu182> eh yeah
[17:57] <fumanchu182> never noticed it
[17:58] <fumanchu182> i don't do much right clicking on my desktop
[17:58] <fumanchu182> i do have to say that i love that in this kde setup on ubuntu you can get to things very easily
[17:58] <fumanchu182> but it is quite odd not being able to su to do thiings
[17:58] <fumanchu182> nas200
[17:58] <fumanchu182> err
[17:58] <fumanchu182> wrong window
[17:59] <laci__> Im a newbie and downloaded the latest ATI driver for linux  "ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run". Now whats next?
[18:00] <fumanchu182> afeijo did kicker come back?
[18:00] <afeijo> it worked, thanks fumanchu182
[18:00] <mefisto__> fumanchu182: you can sudo su if you really need to be root
[18:00] <afeijo> I have my bottom panel, yes
[18:00] <afeijo> bye :)
[18:00] <fumanchu182> enjoy afeijo
[18:00] <fumanchu182> ah so is that how it works
[18:01] <hug0> hey dudes!
[18:01] <hug0> all right
[18:01] <mefisto__> but normally just sudo ...commands ...
[18:01] <hug0> \sudo kick all
[18:01] <fumanchu182> mefisto__: well i am having problems mounting a cifs system
[18:01] <hug0> :P
[18:01] <fumanchu182> are you familiar with mount and cifs
[18:01] <laci__> what can I do with files with .run extension?
[18:02] <mefisto__> fumanchu182: not too much but just ask away, see if someone has an answer
[18:02] <fumanchu182> well lemme paste the command so people can pick it apart
[18:02] <fumanchu182> sudo mount -o user=anthony //<IP_ADDRESS>/anthony /media/nas200/
[18:03] <fumanchu182> nas200 does exist
[18:03] <hug0> Question: migrate from kubuntu 6.XX to Kubuntu 8.04.1.... how does ist work?
[18:03] <fumanchu182> and that is the ip of the nas
[18:03] <hug0> is it enough to copy the /home dir to a ext. drive?
[18:03] <mefisto__> laci__: you run them.    type ./executable-file.run
[18:03] <hug0> or is there enything more to do?
[18:03] <fumanchu182> i get the following errors
[18:03] <hug0> ...thunderbird mails & extenios needed
[18:04] <hug0> i get no erros oOO
[18:04] <DreamCaster> ermm help again please
[18:04] <hug0> y
[18:04] <fumanchu182> mount: block device //<IP_ADDRESS>/anthony is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:04] <fumanchu182> mount: cannot mount block device //<IP_ADDRESS>/anthony read-only
[18:04] <newk> wat is the command for adept updater
[18:04] <hug0> apt-get update
[18:04] <hug0> or upgrade do download the updates as well
[18:04] <DreamCaster> i cannot get access to file:///etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <hug0> bad
[18:04] <DreamCaster> i cannot modify and save it
[18:04] <hug0> sudo?!
[18:05] <fumanchu182> i was about to say sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:05] <mefisto__> adept_updater
[18:05] <bazhang> DreamCaster, via nautilus?
[18:05] <bazhang> err konqueror?
[18:05] <hug0> bye dudes
[18:06] <bazhang> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list DreamCaster
[18:06] <DreamCaster> bazhang it worked thanks :)
[18:06] <Fieldy> hello, I installed googleearth-package however i'm not sure what to do from here to actually get it installed. any tips?
[18:07] <bazhang> np :)
[18:07] <DreamCaster> sorry thati am noob but i just dled the new version and i had to use them really really long
[18:07] <bazhang> Fieldy, dl'd from where
[18:07] <Fieldy> bazhang: installed through adept
[18:08] <Fieldy> it says it makes a package i then need to install but I don't see where it put it
[18:09] <DreamCaster> is it proper to install synaptic in Kubuntu 8.04?
[18:09] <bazhang> Fieldy, what about alt f2 googleearth-package
[18:09] <bazhang> DreamCaster, sure if you wish
[18:09] <climatewarrior> yep
[18:10] <Fieldy> bazhang: no go but i just discovered it installed a binary called make-googleearth-package which is downloading what's needed now (though very slowly)
[18:11] <bazhang> Fieldy, ah sorry, dont have it and was just guessing
[18:11] <mefisto__> googleearth is in medibuntu repos
[18:11] <DreamCaster> baz tip on adding repositories plz
[18:11] <bazhang> !medibuntu
[18:11] <Fieldy> i'll wait and see what this does, i'm guessing it makes a package that i can install... quite a wait though, 15KB/s download...
[18:11] <bazhang> DreamCaster, which repo
[18:12] <Fieldy> ah, thank you mefisto__ and bazhang
[18:12] <bazhang> medibuntu need to add the repo though iirc
[18:13] <fumanchu182> anyone know anything about using an external hdtv over vga @ 1360X768, I can use that as my primary and get that resolution but if i try to do dual screen the highest resolution is my laptop display at 1280x800
[18:14] <mefisto__> you can add medibuntu to repos, or download individual .deb files from their site if preferred (but you won't get automatic updates without the repos)
[18:16] <Fieldy> understood. thanks. i'm just waiting to see what happens doing it this way, just a very slow download
[18:18] <amerigo> !games
[18:20] <DreamCaster> how do i add medibuntu repos?
[18:21] <DreamCaster> <----- linux rookie
[18:22] <bazhang> DreamCaster, go to the site and follow the instructions there: www.medibuntu.org
[18:23] <bazhang> DreamCaster, you can just copy and paste the commands into the terminal (konsole)
[18:23] <DreamCaster> thanks once again :)
[18:23] <DreamCaster> i owe you a drink
[18:24] <bazhang> :)
[18:26] <DreamCaster> bazhang any idea how to install w32codecs? cause sudo apt-get install w32codecs gives me error
[18:26] <bazhang> DreamCaster, did you get the repos yet?
[18:26] <DreamCaster> yes
[18:26] <bazhang> DreamCaster, then first sudo apt-get update
[18:27] <bazhang> DreamCaster, now try after doing that
[18:27] <DreamCaster> bazhang packet is missing or it is really old
[18:28] <DreamCaster> bazhang this is what i get
[18:28] <bazhang> DreamCaster, you only want that one file? along with libdvdcss2?
[18:28] <bazhang> err package
[18:28] <DreamCaster> yep
[18:30] <bazhang> DreamCaster, then scroll to the bottom of the page and look how to install the debs
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | DreamCaster
[18:31] <DreamCaster> bazhang thanks it is working
[18:32] <bazhang> DreamCaster, nicely done :)
[18:35] <Accidus> Is there a TeXlive 2008 package on the Adept package manager?
[18:36] <cyberwulf> Is there anyone here speaking Indonesian?
[18:36] <bazhang> !id
[18:36] <bazhang> cyberwulf, ^^
[18:36] <cyberwulf> nyasar
[18:37] <mefisto__> Accidus: apt-cache search texlive          or just search in adept if you already have it open
[18:38] <cyberwulf> only three Indonesians here?
[18:39] <Accidus> Well, it has texlive, but not the new 2008 (beta) release
[18:46] <sourcemaker> !search home entertainment system
[18:46] <bazhang> !info mediatomb
[18:46] <Dentharg> hi
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[18:46] <Dentharg> anyone here using kde4.1 and have SB Audigy soundcard?
[18:46] <BigBuddha> hey guys, for some reason when i am logged into kubuntu now, my fans stay on. They will not turm off, but in vista they run fine. also, my pc will freeze, no response until i manually shut it down.
[18:47] <sourcemaker> !search DVD
[18:47] <sourcemaker> !search media player
[18:47] <Dentharg> !search audigy
[18:48] <bazhang> sourcemaker /msg ubottu dvd  and players
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: is it a laptop?
[18:48] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: no it is a desktop
[18:48] <sourcemaker> ubottu dvd  and players
[18:48] <Dentharg> bazhang: thx for the tip!
[18:49] <sourcemaker> !search dvd  and players
[18:49] <bazhang> sourcemaker, you need to /msg
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: ok maybe theres a patch for your motherboard or maybe theres some config you need to add
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: is it a store bought system or self built
[18:49] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: if thats the case i will need a little help if you can?
[18:49] <bazhang> sourcemaker, that is not the right command and you should do it in private message; the syntax is /msg ubottu info package
[18:50] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: it is retail
[18:50] <sourcemaker> bazhang:  ok thanks :-)
[18:50] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: do you want the brand/model?
[18:50] <bazhang> sourcemaker, also try /msg ubottu find related term
[18:50] <bazhang> Dentharg, np :)
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: sure
[18:51] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: Gateway GT5662
[19:01] <miffed> I have a script which pops up a passive message box using kdialog, works fine when manually run but if run as a kcron job the script runs and does what it supposed to but the kdialog box does not pop up,
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> miffed: is the script chmodded to executable
[19:02] <miffed> yup it executable
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> miffed: is the file owned by you
[19:02] <miffed> it runs if I choose manually run in kron and message box pops up but when run as a kron job it does not pop up
[19:02] <miffed> yes I own the file
[19:03] <DreamCaster> i used this sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-bcop to install  Compiz fusion any idea how i use it?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | DreamCaster
[19:04] <mefisto__> miffed: the message box is a X window, yes?
[19:05] <DreamCaster> ty ty
[19:05] <_CrashMaster_> I thought KRON was supposed to run in the background, not interacting with the user.
[19:05] <miffed> if kdialoge is considered a X window I am not sure
[19:06] <miffed> kdialog --title "GREAT" --passivepopup "files synced " 10
[19:06] <miffed> pops up a little speech bubble for 10 seconds
[19:06] <mefisto__> miffed: try putting this before the command in Kcron: export DISPLAY=:0 &&
[19:09] <mefisto__> miffed: also, don't forget to save after making changes in Kcron
[19:14] <miffed> mefisto__: in the program section like : export DISPLAY=:0 && /home/test/Documents/scripts/./unisonsync
[19:16] <mefisto__> miffed: yes, but what is with the /./  ?? does "/home/test/Documents/scripts/./unisonsync" work as a command with the /./ in there?
[19:17] <DreamCaster> !firefox
[19:17] <miffed> well as unison is a executable i have always ended the path as ./nameofscript
[19:19] <mefisto__> miffed: if it works in konsole that way, that's fine. I just thought the extra ./ wouldn't be necessary if you're giving the full path
[19:20] <miffed> mefisto__: I have no idea I just got used to doing it that way and not been a problem so far
[19:20] <mefisto__> ok
[19:23] <vincenzo_> salve
[19:24] <vincenzo_> !list
[19:26] <arrrghhh> how can i add a rule in firestarter to allow all lan clients?
[19:29] <ced_> hey actionparsnip, long time no see..
[19:31] <ced_> brb guys..
[19:31] <miffed> mefisto__: thanks, adding export DISPLAY=:0 && did the trick,
[19:32] <miffed> mefisto__: could you give me a brief idea why it was failing previously?
[19:37] <mefisto__> miffed: all I know is that if it's a program that needs to be displayed in X, you need the export. the :0 is the default display
[19:38] <mefisto__> it really should be a checkbox or something in Kcron's gui
[19:38] <miffed> mefisto__: strange then that it showed correctly when run manually but not in the background untill that option was added
[19:38] <ulusoy> slm
[19:41] <miffed> if I run this in terminal it pops up the box with no need to export>    kdialog --title "Warning" --passivepopup "files not synced " 10
[19:41] <mefisto__> miffed: I don't really understand it either. I found out about the export thing by googling, but don't know what the "export" command does
[19:42] <nickname034> hey, how are you?
[19:44] <frloja> tem alguem do brazil?
[19:44] <nickname034> i'm observing some "crazy movements" into adept ......... when i ask for the installation of mozilla 3, in the screen appears "break (install)" with red colour, instead of "install", any idea ?
[19:44] <ced_> maybe you got incompatible extensions?
[19:44] <nickname034> and the same trying to install eclipse ........
[19:44] <lee-roy> hi how can i use this irc client with firefox url links in gnome
[19:45] <lee-roy> ??
[19:45] <ced_> i had that when i tried to install both XMMS1 and 2
[19:45] <mefisto__> miffed: I think I found out about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993  there's a bit of explanation in that thread
[19:45] <ced_> so it's probably a incompatability issue.
[19:45] <nickname034> oh
[19:46] <nickname034> thanks for the info, it's good to see i'm not the unic human with the problem haha
[19:46] <ced_> :)
[19:46] <nickname034> okey, i'm going to look about, thanks for the info
[19:46] <ced_> np, good luck!
[19:46] <nickname034> possibly, i will need it ;)
[19:46] <ced_> ^_^
[19:47] <sinu> tasting kubuntu and an irc channel for the first time
[19:49] <jpds> !hi | sinu
[19:49] <brmassa> guys, i just bought a new HDD. how can i clone the old HDD into this new one. I dont want to plain-copy because all files will get a new created/changed tag.
[19:49] <brmassa> ?
[19:50] <sinu> hi all.. atlast got the dialup modem working in kubuntu
[19:52] <mefisto__> brmassa: I think something like: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb      if sda is the old disk and sdb is the new one
[19:52] <brmassa> mefisto__: man... i love you! hehe thanks
[19:53] <mefisto__> brmassa: check "man dd" first to make sure I got that right
[19:53] <mefisto__> brmassa: that will only work if the new disk is larger than the old one
[19:53] <mefisto__> or same size
[19:54] <brmassa> mefisto__: thats the reason i got a new one!
[19:54] <mefisto__> brmassa: actually, you might need to do this when the old disk is not mounted.
[19:55] <mefisto__> brmassa: so if you're running from the old one now, you could do it from livecd
[19:55] <brmassa> mefisto__: hmmm ok.
[19:55] <brmassa> mefisto__: the new one should be formated before?
[19:56] <mefisto__> brmassa: if you use the dd command, everything will be copied, all partitions, files, everything
[19:56] <masteredu> Hello
[19:57] <masteredu> can anyone say me how can i update kde 4.0 to 4.1 with konsole
[19:57] <brmassa> mefisto__: so 1* it will overwrite any data from the "of" 2* i will need to resize the partition later?
[19:57] <brmassa> mefisto__: right?
[19:58] <masteredu> can anyone help me?
[19:59] <mefisto__> brmassa: yes, or you could create new partitions in the unused space instead of growing the partitions you have
[20:00] <brmassa> mefisto__: why? is there an advantage on multi-small partitions over a single-big one?
[20:01] <brmassa> mefisto__: real figures are: old HD: 40gb, new HDD = 160gb (i dont know if matters)
[20:02] <broken> masteredu: I imagine all you need to do is add the 4.1 repo and dist-upgrade
[20:03] <mefisto__> brmassa: first, linux normally uses more than one partition. it's common to have a separate partition for /home, to hold program settings and kde config, and your own data. That way when you need to reinstall or upgrade, your data and settings stay safe on their own partition
[20:03] <broken> update first XD
[20:03] <masteredu> hm
[20:03] <masteredu> ok
[20:04] <masteredu> oh it says 65 packes are avaible
[20:04] <masteredu> you think this is kde 4.1?
[20:04] <masteredu> its 144 mb big
[20:04] <broken> Probably, if you've added the repo on the website.
[20:04] <masteredu> "avaible"
[20:04] <masteredu> hm
[20:04] <brmassa> mefisto__: yes yes. but these HDD are the data ones. the linux programs are in another one.
[20:04] <masteredu> why all use gnome
[20:04] <masteredu> maybe becouse it is stable?
[20:07] <mefisto__> brmassa: ok, then one big partition if you want. you might want other partitions if you want eg FAT32 filesystem for compatibility with other OS
[20:08] <brmassa> mefisto__: i see. well... its time for some work. again, thanks
[20:10] <aswin> hi in the add widget screen i dont find the widget i downloaded from the kdelook
[20:10] <aswin> can someone help me out
[20:11] <mefisto__> aswin: kde4?
[20:11] <aswin> yes mefisto
[20:12] <aswin> kde 4
[20:12] <Pliskin> use knewstuff
[20:12] <mefisto__> I was wondering that too. have you tried in #kubuntu-kde4 ?
[20:12] <aswin> ok thanks
[20:13] <miffed> If I right click copy a file or folder then close the window I copied it from, (dolphin or konquoror) then when try to right click paste onto desktop or anywhere else for that matter it does not work, only when I keep the window open I copied from will it paste, is this a feature or a bug ?
[20:14] <miffed> mefisto__: thanx for link it clarifies earlier my issue
[20:14] <stragee> what's the best way to install themes these days?
[20:16] <stragee> i can't seem to find a way to install dekorator, and there doesn't seem to be a way to import kde themes natively
[20:16] <mefisto__> miffed: np. and I just tried to copy from dolphin, closed dolphin, pasted on desktop. it works fine for me
[20:18] <miffed> hmm I have the same problem with my desktop and laptop,
[20:18] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:18] <stragee> seems like kubuntu is twice as hard to theme as ubuntu
[20:18] <senorpedro> i installed kde4 but it is very slow
[20:19] <senorpedro> i heard that there are issues when using nvidia cards
[20:19] <senorpedro> does anybody know how i can make kde4 fast even though using a nvidia card?
[20:19] <senorpedro> and yes, i would like to have desktop effects enabled
[20:20] <miffed> stragee: dont know if this is what your after but in control centre/appearance and themes/theme manager and options to get new themes add etc
[20:21] <stragee> miffed: is that under appearance in system settings?
[20:21] <senorpedro> !kde4 nvidia
[20:21] <miffed> yup in system settings appearence and themes
[20:22] <stragee> miffed: yeh i'm in appearance, then i goto window decorations, but don't see any way to import
[20:22] <stragee> or i tried style too
[20:22] <stragee> "icons" seems to be the only place that allows me to import
[20:23] <miffed> you using the theme manager it has import there for styles etc
[20:23] <stragee> miffed: does theme manager come with kubuntu by default?
[20:24] <senorpedro> how can i determine the exact name of the graphic card in my computer?
[20:24] <senorpedro> without opening the case
[20:25] <Pliskin> lspci
[20:25] <Pliskin> or KInfoCenter ?
[20:25] <stragee> miffed: i don't think i'm using theme manager, how do i use that?
[20:26] <emons> hi guys is there anybody with good network skills?
[20:27] <juandiego> hey
[20:28] <emons> nobody?
[20:28] <stragee> what are you trying to do emons?
[20:28] <juandiego> i'd like to ask if anyone can provide some help about the infamous broadcom wifi
[20:29] <emons> hi stragee
[20:29] <Pliskin> juandiego : there is a package
[20:29] <emons> the thing is my high speed internet connection its going slower than ever, i already tried with ipv6 and stuff but nothing changed
[20:30] <Pliskin> bcm43xx-fwcutter, it works for some cards
[20:30] <juandiego> i've followed many tutorials, but something goes wrong every time, im not the smartest kubuntu user you know
[20:30] <xp> .
[20:30] <stragee> emons: what type of connection do you have, and are you connect via hardline or wifi
[20:31] <juandiego> ok i'll look into that
[20:31] <emons> few days ago Agent_bob was helping me analyzing my connection files (he told me to run some commands in a terminal and pastebin the results which i did) in the end i seem to have some prob with my connection but dunno what, he had to go and me either so we didn't finish it
[20:31] <emons> alright i have an adsl high speed and connected via wifi
[20:32] <emons> there's a hag connected to a modem and the modem is connected to a wifi router which is 5 metres away from my airport
[20:32] <juandiego> but actually my knetwork manager already detects some of the wifi connections
[20:32] <juandiego> its just that it never makes a succesful connection with any of them
[20:32] <stragee> emons: do you have the option to test it using a ethernet cable?
[20:33] <emons> (weirdly it says i only have 50 % reception which is impossible first because its too close second because on xp was going superfast and the reception was always 100%)
[20:34] <stragee> emons: it sounds like the driver you are using for your wifi card is generic
[20:34] <emons> the weird thing that they made me notice is that when i first install kubuntu hardy it set everything by itself i didnt set anything i was only able to get connected automatically without setting anything
[20:34] <emons> yes i think so stragee
[20:34] <stragee> you may try searching for an alternative driver, also play with different encryption methods
[20:35] <stragee> if you get 100% speed with no encryption, then you know it's a driver problem
[20:36] <emons> i have no encryption, not even a wap or wep nothing
[20:36] <emons> im a newbie here and i dunno how to set anything :D
[20:37] <snarkster> emons what did you change?
[20:37] <emons> nothing
[20:37] <emons> here's the thing
[20:37] <snarkster> emons when did you notice a slow down?
[20:37] <emons> i didnt touch it
[20:37] <emons> like one week ago
[20:37] <emons> and during this time i only installed some plugins
[20:37] <snarkster> well something had to have changed somewhere for it to dramatically change like that.
[20:37] <KDesk> with one is better in kde, mplayer or xine?
[20:37] <emons> u no like flash, java
[20:37] <stragee> i'll let snarkster take over ;) i've gotta restart X
[20:38] <stragee> g'luck emons
[20:38] <emons> alright stragee
[20:38] <emons> thank u
[20:38] <emons> ;)
[20:38] <snarkster> stragee I didnt want to intrude.. lol
[20:38] <emons> -_-
[20:38] <emons> lol
[20:38] <snarkster> ok so you are useing knetwork manager>
[20:38] <emons> yes
[20:39] <snarkster> ok I use a belkin usb wireless G that I bought at walmart for 36 bucks.. worked right out of the box with no tweaking
[20:39] <ced_> :O lucky bastard
[20:39] <ced_> *guy
[20:39] <emons> ivegot a lynksys
[20:39] <snarkster> I use gnomes network manager as knetwork manager has some vpn issues,
[20:40] <snarkster> Yah I had a netgear pcmcia that had to use ndiswrapper and one day it just stopped working for no reason
[20:40] <snarkster> actually it locked up the laptop
[20:41] <snarkster> you have no security what so ever on your wifi
[20:41] <ced_> weird, well windows drivers in linux are mostly bugged so its not a surprise...
[20:41] <SAngeli> I have to migrate from kmail (Linux - kubuntu) to Windows Vista, mail application. Can someone please advice me how to move my kmail emails into Vista mail?
[20:41] <snarkster> SAngeli: Youll have to do a google search for that.. I dont think there are many vista users in here
[20:41] <emons> ivegot no security now cuz i thought that might be the prob so i took it away
[20:42] <SAngeli> snarkster, thank you. Could you please advice some valid key words?
[20:42] <snarkster> emons ok and what is your current speed?
[20:42] <snarkster> SAngeli: migrate kmail to vista
[20:42] <SAngeli> thank you
[20:42] <snarkster> welcome
[20:43] <snarkster> emons what is your current speed??
[20:43] <emons> 2400
[20:43] <emons> tested on a speedometer
[20:43] <snarkster> do you have a cordless phone, microwave, tesla coil between you and the wifi access point?
[20:43] <ced_> brb, gotta reinstall the network here (arg i hate those old sitecom routers -.-'') cya guys..
[20:44] <emons> nope
[20:44] <emons> no phones in the house
[20:44] <snarkster> anything that gives off any kind of radiation will effect a wifi connection
[20:44] <Pliskin> juandiego : so your card is already recognised
[20:44] <emons> nothing
[20:44] <snarkster> where is your cell phone?
[20:45] <mefisto__> I hate when I forget to turn off my tesla coil and fall asleep
[20:45] <snarkster> and you are currently connected via wifi with 50% strength