[00:00] <tsimonq2> There's several I can remember. It's far from unprecedented. :)
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[06:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-spython [riscv64] (noble-proposed/universe) [0.3.13-1] (no packageset)
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[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: gcc-14 (noble-proposed/primary) [14-20240119-0ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted astc-encoder [amd64] (noble-proposed) [4.7.0+ds-2]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted astc-encoder [armhf] (noble-proposed) [4.7.0+ds-2]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted astc-encoder [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [4.7.0+ds-2]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-14 [sync] (noble-proposed) [14-20240119-0ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4windowing [arm64] (noble-proposed) [4.19.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4windowing [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [4.19.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4windowing [s390x] (noble-proposed) [4.19.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-parsl [amd64] (noble-proposed) [2023.11.13+ds-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-spython [amd64] (noble-proposed) [0.3.13-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-spython [armhf] (noble-proposed) [0.3.13-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted astc-encoder [arm64] (noble-proposed) [4.7.0+ds-2]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted astc-encoder [s390x] (noble-proposed) [4.7.0+ds-2]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4windowing [armhf] (noble-proposed) [4.19.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-crispy-bootstrap4 [amd64] (noble-proposed) [2023.1-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-spython [arm64] (noble-proposed) [0.3.13-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-spython [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [0.3.13-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tpm2-tss [amd64] (noble-proposed) [4.0.1-5ubuntu1]
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[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tpm2-tss [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [4.0.1-5ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted astc-encoder [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [4.7.0+ds-2]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4windowing [riscv64] (noble-proposed) [4.19.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-spython [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [0.3.13-1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tpm2-tss [arm64] (noble-proposed) [4.0.1-5ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tpm2-tss [s390x] (noble-proposed) [4.0.1-5ubuntu1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxfce4windowing [amd64] (noble-proposed) [4.19.2-1ubuntu1]
[09:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-spython [s390x] (noble-proposed) [0.3.13-1]
[09:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-pyproject-examples [amd64] (noble-proposed) [2023.6.30-1]
[09:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted tpm2-tss [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [4.0.1-5ubuntu1]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: kodi (noble-proposed/primary) [2:20.2+dfsg-4ubuntu1]
[10:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi [source] (noble-proposed) [2:20.2+dfsg-4ubuntu1]
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[11:01] <tjaalton> tsimonq2: and looks like I accepted that one.. it's still not the norm to not have them. and in this case the paragraphs are in the wrong order ;)
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[11:17] <xypron> paride: arm64 autopkgtests are not executing since last Tuesday. Is there any update when the builders will recover?
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[11:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi [armhf] (noble-proposed) [2:20.2+dfsg-4ubuntu1]
[11:56] <Skia> xypron: the arm64 autopkgtest queues are actually declining steadily, they're just big (+7000 tests just in noble arm64), so it's going to take some time
[11:57] <Skia> are you looking for a package in particular?
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (jammy-proposed/multiverse) [6.1.48-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 6.1.50-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
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[12:50] <andersson1234> xypron: To add to what Skia said, we are currently also in the process of hopefully getting some new, faster compute for arm64. It's not imminent, but should happen soon :)
[13:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (lunar-proposed/multiverse) [7.0.12-dfsg-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 7.0.14-dfsg-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (kernel-dkms, ubuntu-cloud)
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[13:18] <paride> xypron, as ^^ said, looks like jobs are being processed
[13:18] <paride> xypron, which package are you looking at specifically?
[13:19] <xypron> paride: rsyslog, console-setup
[13:21] <paride> xypron, https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/rsyslog/noble/arm64 last executed today
[13:22] <paride> xypron, maybe I'm missing what you are reporting more precisely?
[13:33] <LocutusOfBorg> Hello who is ubuntu-sru today? :)
[13:33] <LocutusOfBorg> LP: #2050891 is ready
[13:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2050891 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Mantic) "[SRU] virtualbox 6.1.50 and 7.1.14" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2050891
[13:33] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry for not having 7.1.14 in time for the last SRU
[13:47] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: FYI :) ^^^
[13:48] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: sitter is a great reviewer. Looks like it'll need just one more tweak. :)
[14:00] <mitya57> tsimonq2, doko: I have bad news: most of the pyside patches for Python 3.12 are not applicable to pyside2 because the code diverged too much between 5.15 and 6.x branches.
[14:00] <mitya57> But there are good news: I managed to backport *some* patches.
[14:00] <mitya57> tsimonq2: If you want to continue from where I started, I pushed to wip/python3.12 branch.
[14:01] <mitya57> Currently it fails with: "error: ‘AutoDecRef’ was not declared in this scope; did you mean ‘Shiboken::AutoDecRef’?" and that should be easily fixable. However I expect more errors after fixing that.
[14:03] <mitya57> Maybe, as a temporary measure to help things migrate, we can delete the version autosynced from Debian and revert to the build from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4982/+packages?
[14:16] <LocutusOfBorg> jbicha, glib2.0 got an Ubuntu patch to fix python3.12 sadness
[14:16] <LocutusOfBorg> please make sure it goes into debian eventually (backport from upstream)
[14:16] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/2.78.3-1ubuntu1
[14:29] <bdmurray> tsimonq2: yesterday you expressed an interest in helping with the autopkgtest queues. It should help if liblocale-gettext-perl migrated out of -proposed. I see an arm64 regression with the openpgp-applet test but it might just be a missing trigger.
[14:35] <tsimonq2> mitya57: Roger that, will look today and report back with my own findings. :)
[14:36] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: Thanks for letting me know! Will look ASAP
[14:36] <sergiodj> bdmurray: tsimonq2: I'm starting my +1 shift today, so I can also look into that (or something else that's needed)
[14:37] <tsimonq2> sergiodj: Sure, allow me to see how far I get, I'll pass off my findings in about an hour or less. :)
[14:37] <sergiodj> yep
[14:39] <sergiodj> meanwhile, schopin sent me a list of FTBFSes to work on :)
[14:40] <schopin> sergiodj: I can probably find some more in my chat archive if you're bored ;)
[14:40] <sergiodj> schopin: sounds like a plan
[14:40] <sergiodj> feel free to send them my way
[14:47] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: Can confirm, just a missing trigger. Actually, I'm already seeing such tests queued, too. (perl -> libglib-object-introspection-perl -> openpgp-applet, libglib-object-introspection-perl had an NCR for the Perl update that hasn't been picked up by an autopkgtest run yet.)
[14:48] <tsimonq2> If we were confident that this is a widespread issue with retries not already in place, we could run retry-autopkgtest-regressions with --log-regex to find other, like failures.
[14:48] <bdmurray> tsimonq2: which trigger is missing?
[14:49] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: libglib-object-introspection-perl/0.051-1build1
[14:49] <tsimonq2> https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/transitions/html/html/perl-5.38.html indicates that we're good on NCRs, which means it *may* be beneficial to apply a similar approach to other packages.
[15:40] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: I await your tweak and will hold off testing, but that sweet, sweet no-need-to-change-anything testing window closes VERY quick.
[16:24] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: I feel like a fireman today (although I'm still in a good mood) :)
[16:24] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Same. I keep getting notifications all over IRC for weird stuff. 🙃
[17:22] <bdmurray> LocutusOfBorg: is this virtualbox update (bug 2050891) time sensitive?
[17:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2050891 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Mantic) "[SRU] virtualbox 6.1.50 and 7.1.14" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2050891
[17:45] <LocutusOfBorg> bdmurray, there is a risk of breaking windows 8.1 virtual machines
[17:45] <LocutusOfBorg> so, I would prefer it to be ship sooner than later
[17:45] <LocutusOfBorg> it wasn't in my plan to package it to be honest
[17:45] <LocutusOfBorg> but I got report about some windows machines breaking and trying to recover, failing to do it because something is not correctly signed or broken
[18:04] <arraybolt3> btw I'm about to fix the last of the Focal SRU reviews for the previous SRU of VBox
[18:05] <arraybolt3> for the new one, I think I might have a Windows 8.1 ISO somewhere, though I may not have time to help with the new one today
[18:05] <arraybolt3> *SRU verifications I mean in my first message
[18:11] <bdmurray> LocutusOfBorg: I didn't mention it previously but the "Possible regressions" section of the last SRU bug and this one doesn't meet the expectations of the SRU team.
[18:12] <bdmurray> e.g. "Think about what the upload changes in the software. Imagine the change is
[18:12] <bdmurray>    wrong or breaks something else: how would this show up?"
[18:13] <bdmurray> I did mention improving the test plan in the bug description though. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-guest-additions-iso/+bug/2017101/comments/28
[18:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2017101 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Mantic) "[SRU] Virtualbox 7.0.12 and 6.1.48" [Undecided, Fix Released]
[18:28] <arraybolt3> (can confirm I have a Win8.1 ISO for VBox testing)
[18:58] <sudip> arraybolt3: I can give you Windows7 also if you want
[19:01] <arraybolt3> sudip: nah, got that here
[19:02] <arraybolt3> ubuntu-sru: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/manuskript/+bug/1989203 The wait is over, the verification is done, please allow Manuskript through the floodgates! (Whew, that bug took like a year to fix or something.)
[19:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1989203 in manuskript (Debian) "Manuskript crashes on start" [Unknown, New]
[19:29] <arraybolt3> LocutusOfBorg: You probably should ping me (or whoever the last tester is) if you notice someone appeared to complete testing but didn't mark an SRU as verification-done. I wasn't done with Focal verification and am doing the last half of it now (testing with GA kernel on host).
[19:31] <arraybolt3> (re Virtualbox 6.1.48)
[21:49] <tsimonq2> adrien: gnutls28 autopkgtest failures> Unlike tests, autopkgtests don't have to fail for you to be able to retry them. I see an exim4 in proposed, I'll go ahead and trigger a retry with both exim4 and gnutls28, from -proposed, just so we get a clean baseline.
[21:50] <tsimonq2> *builds
[21:50] <tsimonq2> Jeez, I better wait on those requests... /me gets more coffee
[22:03] <doko> athos, cpaelzer: I just promoted php8.3 without having a subscriber. also for the future, please could you only start a transition, when the new package (php8.3) migrated to the release pocket?
[22:36] <bdmurray> tsimonq2:lubuntu-update-notifier should also be verified for mantic before we release lunar
[23:02] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: I prioritized Lunar so that was out of the way in case it came down to the wire, I'm in the process of verifying Mantic now.
[23:02] <tsimonq2> Also, how about Jammy?
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[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted geventhttpclient [arm64] (noble-proposed) [2.0.11-1]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pysmbc [amd64] (noble-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pysmbc [s390x] (noble-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted geventhttpclient [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [2.0.11-1]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-mbed-ls [amd64] (noble-proposed) [1.6.2+dfsg-9]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pysmbc [armhf] (noble-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[23:27] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: Oh, well it does look like I'll have to think outside the box to test this one.
[23:27] <tsimonq2> Don't worry, I'll just locally MITM changelogs.ubuntu.com ;P
[23:42] <arraybolt3> Simon's Razor - The least complicated solution is usually the most boring one, so try something trickier.
[23:56] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Anything simpler may invalidate the SRU. :P
[23:58] <arraybolt3> valid :)


[16:22] <Gurpartap> 14.04.1
[16:22] <gabrielts> HEIL
[16:22] <expunge> Gurpartap: a minor revision
[16:22] <expunge> gabrielts: zig
[16:22] <gabrielts> what?
[16:24] <Gurpartap> expunge: will such incremental updates keep coming on LTS release?
[16:24] <Gurpartap> revisions, if that’s the word
[16:25] <expunge> Gurpartap: historically no
[16:25] <expunge> AIUI the .1 reflects fixes to the initial release that were just missed
[16:25] <expunge> making it work as intended
[16:26] <expunge> and after that it's just ordinary package updates
[16:26] <Gurpartap> i see
[16:26] <expunge> the .1 is a version for the install media
[16:26] <Gurpartap> I see some lxc bug fixes.
[16:26] <Gurpartap> Concerns me since I’ll be using docker
[16:26] <carldani> Is there any fixed process for automatically picking linux kernel fixes from the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mailing list into the trusty update kernels? I own a Crucial M550 1 TB SSD which needs this fix from mainline to avoid data corruption:
[16:26] <carldani> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=2a13772a144d2956a7fedd18685921d0a9b8b783
[16:27] <expunge> Gurpartap: what concerns you?
[16:28] <Gurpartap> expunge: That I should consider using 14.04.1 while I still have the chance to make the choice.
[16:29] <Gurpartap> The change log for .1 mentions some LXC bug fixes. And I’m inclined to use it because of that (as I’ll be using docker which relies on LXC)
[16:29] <expunge> Gurpartap: it's for install media
[16:29] <expunge> Gurpartap: you can get what amounts to 14.04.1 if you've already installed 14.04
[16:30] <Gurpartap> Okay
[16:30] <Gurpartap> Makes sense
[16:30] <Gurpartap> *blush*
[16:30] <expunge> =)
[16:30] <Gurpartap> haha :)
[16:37] <YokoBR> guys, please, i need help to install the ati proprietary drive :(
[16:38] <BunsenBurner>  hello again, I was cut off when I just asked this question, due to the same problem I referred to. could you maybe help, please? I am constantly having browser-cursor freezes at varying levels of activity. I checked ram, memtest shows ok. I checked the syslog, too; interestingly, it shows only records of the behaviour of the mobile broadband.
[16:38] <YokoBR> driver*
[16:39] <BunsenBurner> but only after this last freeze, I see some more log reports shortly before I power-shut the computer.
[16:45] <yaowenrui> hello
[16:45] <Xealo> I switched to i3, now I don't have sound anymore
[16:45] <yaowenrui> what is i3
[16:45] <Xealo> i3 the window-manager
[16:45] <Xealo> http://i3wm.org
[16:48] <cfhowlett> Gurpartap, the command for 14.04 >>> 14.04.1 would be sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:50] <emx> cfhowlett, i am looking for a free linux program that can convert or import mpp (microsoft project) files.
[16:50] <Diomedes> Hey, I want to install Moonlight on my Ubuntu. The moonlight page says the current version is 4 preview 1.
[16:50] <Diomedes> In the software center I found this: libmono-wcf3.0a-cil 3.2.8+dfsg-4ubuntu1
[16:50] <Diomedes> Is this the one I am looking for or is there another way to install Moonlight?
[16:50] <cfhowlett> emx, good luck with that.  I remember looking for the same last year - to my great frustration.  if no answer here ask in ##linux
[16:51] <emx> cfhowlett, there is a simple solution: paper an pencil
[16:51] <emx> ^^
[16:51] <Gurpartap> cfhowlett: Okay
[16:51] <Gurpartap> cfhowlett: Thank you!
[16:52] <cfhowlett> Gurpartap, happy2help
[16:53] <EternalScholar> I am booting from a USB ubuntu 14.04 and whenever I do try without installing from Unetbootin it automatically logs me into an account. How do I stop this?
[16:55] <MXD789> Hello can someone help me with storing the ssl-certificate? I get a file permission error when trying to add the files to /etc/ssl
[17:01] <AlexPortable> How do I disable ' on the s?
[17:08] <yaowenrui> how to change the window manager on xubuntu
[17:08] <nibbler_> yaowenrui: install what you feel like, chose it at logon
[17:08] <BunsenBurner>  hello again, I was cut off when I just asked this question, due to the same problem I referred to. could you maybe help, please? I am constantly having browser-cursor freezes at varying levels of activity. I checked ram, memtest shows ok. I checked the syslog, too; interestingly, it shows only records of the behaviour of the mobile broadband.
[17:08] <yaowenrui> thanks
[17:09] <zhianguo> dajiahao
[17:09] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: you mean like, your browser works, but in an input-field the curser gets stuck, so you can't type?
[17:09] <zhianguo> 大家好
[17:10] <nibbler_> !cn | zhianguo
[17:10] <gprz_> Hello all, I would like to ask how to get a registration code for linux mint community?? They inform about chat but not even a clue about network or channel where to ask...
[17:11] <nibbler_> gprz_: this is ubuntu here, ask in mint for mint
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> gprz_: this is ubuntu, not affiliated with whatever mint does.  No idea what registration code you could be talking about.  Take it up with #linux-mint
[17:11] <BunsenBurner> nibbler_ no, if I'm working with browser, it freezes, and often the cursor follows suit, too. but other programs do the same. so it is basically a cursor freeze (screen graying) when a small group of programs are on.
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> !mint | gprz_
[17:12] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: so when on mobile data your system freezes? how do you go on mobile data?
[17:12] <BunsenBurner> i.e. feed reader or mail client freezes, too
[17:13] <EternalScholar> I am booting 14.04 from a Flash drive and whenever I do it automatically logs into some sort of live/guest account how do I stop that?
[17:13] <BunsenBurner> nibbler_ I didnt understand the question
[17:13] <gprz_> cheers guys :)
[17:13] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: might be a driver issue, try to access a text console (ssh'ing to your box, ctrl-alt-f1, using some sysrq-magic etc) and see dmesg
[17:13] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: it only happens when you use mobile internet? what kind of mobile internet, and how do you connect to it?
[17:13] <AlexPortable> How do I disable ' on the s?
[17:14] <AlexPortable> When i lock my screen, it shows 'switch user', how can i hide this button?
[17:14] <cfhowlett> BunsenBurner, I'm going to guess that your mobile data itself is causing the problem; blocked dialog, etc.  if this ONLY happens on mobile .. that would be telling.
[17:14] <BunsenBurner> nibbler_ no, it happened on wireless network, too.
[17:15] <BunsenBurner> cfhowlett, no, it happened on wireless network, too.
[17:15] <alpha> hi
[17:15] <Guest57114> hi
[17:16] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, it'll be in light-locker configurations - sorry, don't know more than that.  SHOULD be doable via gui however.
[17:16] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: your descriptions are not helpful. first you point out it only happens on broadband. and on your browser. than you say it happens on wifi and other apps, too. can't help you, sorry.
[17:16] <BunsenBurner> nibbler_ I didnt say that it happens only on broadband
[17:17] <BunsenBurner> nibbler_ I said the logs show only the records of the broadband connection
[17:17] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: "interestingly, it shows only records of the behaviour of the mobile broadband."
[17:17] <nibbler_> BunsenBurner: oh well... what do the logs say?
[17:17] <BunsenBurner> nibbler_ yes, that's what I just said
[17:19] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, see the lightdm article   http://ubuntulook.com/2014/08/27/lightdm-how-to-disable-the-user-list-or-guest-session/
[17:19] <BunsenBurner> they say a lot. maybe I should paste them
[17:21] <BunsenBurner> can anyone help please?
[17:22] <cfhowlett> !paste | BunsenBurner
[17:22] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: that doesn't really shows me how to remove 'change user' from lockscren
[17:24] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, sorry, that's the closest thing I could find.  As I said: lightlocker ... something
[17:26] <AlexPortable> ok
[17:26] <AlexPortable> How do I disable ' on the s?
[17:27] <BunsenBurner> cfhowlett, these are the regular modem-related logs that I mentioned, which makes up the entire logs (!): http://paste.ubuntu.com/8189387/ only at the moment of shutdown (guessing from the time stamp) these logs followed http://paste.ubuntu.com/8189405/
[17:27] <RedDeath> hello
[17:28] <BunsenBurner> the shutdown was a forced one that I did with power button upon freeze
[17:30] <cfhowlett> BunsenBurner, start with trouble shooting "Failed" stuff then move on to <warn>.  I suspect your issue is in there.  I'm a bit concerned that you'rs is the only report I've heard of that specific failure type ... leads me back to suspect your machine.  Sorry, I can't suggest anything more definitive.
[17:33] <xealo> I'm running 14.04, after installing i3wm I lost audio. After some tinkering 2 audio devices now show up (built-in, hdmi) before it was just dummy output. What could be configured wrongly?
[17:33] <BunsenBurner> cfhowlett, in case of the machine, which part could be failing? ram shows no errors.
[17:33] <xealo> this is a lenovo thinkpad x240
[17:40] <BunsenBurner> someone had told me that it could be a wireless power saving problem, and advised me to apply a command. but the problem persists
[17:41] <justin___> Hello
[17:41] <hakermania> justin___, hello
[17:41] <justin___> Ok so i have a really stupid question. How do you install a tar.gz file?
[17:42] <justin___> I couldnt find anything online that made sense.
[17:42] <justin___> I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[17:42] <eeee> justin___: what are you trying to install?
[17:43] <justin___> Adobe Flash and also Wine.
[17:43] <tonyt> tar.gz is like a zip file. it needs to be extracted
[17:43] <loa> justin___, wine and flash exists in ubuntu repository.
[17:43] <samthewildone> is that file a source file; I assume it is.
[17:44] <tonyt> [10:41am] <justin___> Ok so i have a really stupid question. How do you install a tar.gz file? [10:43am] <tonyt> tar.gz is like a zip file. it needs to be extracted
[17:45] <tonyt> you dont install a *.tar.gz. you extract it
[17:45] <justin___> Well Wine wont install from the Ubuntu repository and i havnt checked for Flash. and where do you extract it?
[17:45] <eeee> justin___: why won't it install?
[17:45] <tonyt> ubuntu comes with the proper app to extract a *.tar.gz file
[17:46] <tonyt> example to type in the terminal would be tar -zxvf filename/tar/gz
[17:46] <tonyt> err example to type in the terminal would be tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[17:47] <justin____> Sorry i closed chromium on accedent
[17:48] <eeee> justin____: why doesn't wine install?
[17:48] <justin____> When i try to get Wine from Ubuntu Software Center, it says its not found.
[17:49] <eeee> justin____: you have to select the universe repository
[17:49] <loa> you enable addtiotional software sources.
[17:49] <eeee> justin____: dash > software & updates > universe
[17:50] <eeee> justin____:  check multiverse too for flash, i think
[17:50] <eeee> !find flash
[17:50] <eeee> !info flashplugin-installer
[17:51] <BunsenBurner> aside from that, isn't that totally strange that a 'syslog' is made up of  endless rows of only 3 different status messages?
[17:52] <justin____> Ok im not seing anything about the universe repository..
[17:52] <BunsenBurner> the system has a few applications on, but none of them are shown
[17:52] <eeee> justin____: it's the community maintained software .... (universe)
[17:55] <Apteryx> Hello :) I'm trying to invert the buttons of my left hand mouse. I found how to do it with xinput. Now I'm trying to make these 2 lines run at every login (of any users), so I put them inside /etc/profile. They are run, but it seems not in the shell of the login, because they have no effect whatsoever... Why is that? I'm using Ubunt 14.04 with Unity.
[17:56] <sdau> If I downloaded a set of packages/dependencies with apt-get -d and later install them by dkpg -i, will these get updated by apt later on?
[17:56] <justin____> Ok so i think i have the universe repository.
[17:56] <eeee> justin____: select multiverse too
[17:56] <eeee> ( for flash )
[17:57] <Apteryx> Or maybe it is run... but the peripherals were not yet detected!
[17:57] <justin____> Im just sayin that i have it because i read that it was on here by default.
[17:58] <justin____> I didnt actualy see it anywhere...
[17:58] <Apteryx> This would explain why the xinput lines in /etc/profile has no effect.
[17:58] <eeee> justin____: i don't think universe is selected by default..
[17:59] <justin____> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/configuration.html
[18:01] <eeee> justin____: weird
[18:01] <eeee> try this cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep universe
[18:02] <eeee> paste the first line here
[18:02] <justin____> grep universe?
[18:02] <eeee> open a terminal, and type the whole line
[18:02] <Xeago> I installed i3, but now my sound isn't working anymore.
[18:03] <Xeago> Previously the only sound output device was dummy-output
[18:03] <Xeago> now I have both built-in and hdmi after some force reloading of alsa
[18:03] <Xeago> but still no audio
[18:03] <Xeago> this is on a lenovo thinkpad x240
[18:03] <justin____> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[18:03] <jhutchins> eeee: Oh, naughty: cat to grep.
[18:04] <qwerkus> hello; i plugged a gtx 750 ti onto my ubuntu system, and have now a black screen of death. How do I reset gfx drivers ?
[18:04] <jhutchins> grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <eeee> justin____: that "#" means its commented out, so it's not enabled
[18:05] <eeee> justin____: i guess that info is wrong, or only for servers
[18:05] <justin____> ah ok. one moment.
[18:05] <Beldar> qwerkus, What was there before?
[18:05] <eeee> jhutchins: yeah that would work as well :)
 intel igpu
[18:05] <justin____> Cant un-comment it becuse when i go to save the file, it says permision denied.
[18:06] <Beldar> qwerkus, You can do it all from a tty or do a nomodeset boot and from the desktop probably.
[18:06] <Beldar> !nomodeset | qwerkus
[18:06] <xangua> or you could just open Software Center. Edit menu, Sources and enable them from there justin____
 ok, will do
[18:07] <eeee> justin____: you need to open it with privileges, so type gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:07] <Beldar> qwerkus, That is about all I know in tis area.
[18:07] <xangua> eeee: making the easy harder¿ ;)
[18:07] <Beldar> this*
[18:07] <eeee> justin____: xangua already told him too, he says he can't find it any where
[18:08] <eeee> xangua: trust me i'm not, he wanted to compile from source originally :)
[18:09] <justin____> typed in my password but it didnt open.
[18:10] <eeee> justin____: ok, go to software & updates again
[18:10] <tekkitindisguise> manjaro is better
[18:11] <xangua> !ot | tekkitindisguise
[18:11] <justin____> ok there
[18:11] <tekkitindisguise> Install Manjaro Linux
[18:11] <eeee> justin____: do you see a list of repositories?
[18:12] <Beldar> tekkitindisguise, Don't the have their own channel/dungeon.
[18:12] <justin____> Well shit i just found universe and its alredy selected. sorry.
[18:12] <eeee> ok
[18:12] <wheatthin> justin___, please watch the language
[18:12] <eeee> is multiverse selected too ?
[18:12] <tekkitindisguise> I used Ubuntu a while and I didn't like the sloppy code and heavy default DE. But I see why You like it. Ubuntu's great for some people. Just not me.
[18:12] <eeee> you need that for flash
[18:12] <justin____> yeah
[18:12] <eeee> ok good
[18:13] <eeee> exit
[18:13] <eeee> and then open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[18:13] <eeee> wait
[18:13] <wheatthin> tekkitindisguise, that's great, but how is that pertinent?
[18:13] <justin____> wait?
[18:13] <eeee> justin____: try to uncheck them, and then check them
[18:13] <Beldar> tekkitindisguise, It is a based on arch an easily run OS your not proclaiming anything but your ineptness.
[18:13] <eeee> (just remembered they are commented out in sources.list )
[18:14] <wheatthin> Beldar, waste of breath :P
[18:14] <Beldar> yeah
[18:14] <Xeago> I lost audio after switching to i3, what could be the problem? On a thinkpad x240
[18:14] <justin___> it wont let me uncheck them.
[18:15] <eeee> justin___: what do you mean? it asks for the password?
 thanks: worked perfectly. Now I have to figure how to install nvidia drivers...
[18:15] <justin___> No i click the button but it stays checked
[18:16] <wheatthin> I've been using ubuntu for years now, and months on this machine.. I have no complaints about it really which is why I choose to help others here. I am a hackintosh person myself, but seem to get along just fine without it.
[18:16] <Beldar> qwerkus, Lots here know this, I would start with the additional drivers tab in software & updates after running a apt-get update upgrade.
[18:16] <justin___> Now that window and the terminal just closed on their own and i cant open it back up.
[18:16] <eeee> justin___: ok,
[18:16] <wheatthin> is it possible for my computer to automatically use bad modules on DIMMs and keep itself running?
[18:17] <eeee> justin___: ok
[18:17] <wheatthin> I didn't get any errors when I ran the memtest86+.. but even my bios claims there's only 6gb of ram
[18:17] <wheatthin> There's 2x 4gb ram modules and 2x 1gb modules..
[18:18] <computa_mike> hi - question about ffmpeg2theora - how can I create a video of - say 5 seconds - from a single frame ?
[18:18] <wheatthin> lol you mean like a gif?
[18:18] <eeee> justin___: open a terminal and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , check if the universe and multiverse repositories are there, and if they are commented out, edit, press ctrl+o to save then ctrl+x to exit, then type sudo apt-get update
[18:18] <Beldar> wheatthin, You are missing 4 gigs right, must be one of those.
[18:19] <computa_mike> wheatthin, yeah - except a single frame animated gif - it's for blocking a story board animatio
[18:19] <qwerkus> Beldar: sure. Unfortunately the additional drivers panel keeps crashing; I guess I will have to use nvidia bins
[18:19] <justin___> nano command not found
[18:19] <Beldar> qwerkus, Crashing how, and have you run a update to have the card seen?
[18:20] <eeee> justin___: type cat /etc/issue and paste here
[18:20] <wheatthin> justin___, it's default.. lol I dunno how it's not found unless you messed with your user profile and aren't using /bin/bash as your shell
[18:20] <computa_mike> wheatthin, so the plan is to take a photo of the storyboard frame and create a mini movie for that scene (consisting of basically just the frame).  When we finish the shot we can replace the OGV file with the finished scene and re-reder
[18:20] <Sillopotatis> Hey
[18:20] <tobiasBora> Bonjour !
[18:20] <Sillopotatis> I'm trying to log onto my other Ubuntu PC through OpenSSH
 update done; shows "searching for drivers" and than crashes; doesn't seem to recon the card
[18:20] <Sillopotatis> I want a desktopview of it
[18:21] <justin___> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[18:21] <Sillopotatis> Where do I turn for a guide, or some basic info?
[18:21] <Sillopotatis> Ubuntu 14.04
[18:21] <Beldar> qwerkus, Not sure, I would hate to mislead you.
[18:21] <tobiasBora> Je voulais vous demander, j'ai une carte Wifi non reconnue par défaut par Linux, j'ai utilisé et compilé des drivers produits par la société qui a fait la carte et ça semble fonctionner (j'arrive à me connecter sur une Wifi classique)
[18:22] <Beldar> !fr | tobiasBora
[18:22] <tobiasBora> Beldar: Oh sorry, I though I was on ubuntu-fr !
[18:22] <eeee> justin___: did you checksum the iso you used?
[18:22] <sarahS> to associate a recently purchased domain with my server, do I have to set up my own nameserver? or is there a way i can register with one?
[18:22] <Beldar> tobiasBora, heh, if you speak english your fine here.
[18:22] <sarahS> this Bind stuff is a bit out of my league
[18:22] <justin___> um....... maybe? i dont know.
[18:22] <wheatthin> sarahS, you can rent a domain name with any dns server like domain.com or dyndns.org
[18:23] <eeee> justin___: ok, do you have the .iso file you used somewhere?
[18:23] <wheatthin> sarahS, but you have multiple subdomains servers, you're going to have to run something locally if on a network of servers
[18:23] <Xeago> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I lost audio after switching to i3, what could be the problem? On a thinkpad x240
[18:23] <Masterjedi688> Hi guys
[18:24] <Masterjedi688>  I need someone to talk me through on connecting to the Internet via a wireless router please
[18:24] <wheatthin> Xeago, is your sound preference reported dummy output?
[18:24] <justin___> I installed linux using crouton and i installed precise and it updated to trusty. or maybe the other way around.
[18:25] <sarahS> wheatthin: I've purchased a domain with a a hosting company I have other services with…the admin for it allows setting nameservers and providing the ip (I assume the ip of the nameserver, not my local machine)
[18:25] <sarahS> wheatthin: so you are saying that yes, i do have to install and configure bind?
[18:26] <Masterjedi688> Anyone?
[18:26] <Xeago> wheatthin: it did before, I tried troubleshooting it, now it shows 2 output devices, hdmi and builtin
[18:26] <wheatthin> sarahS, if you want to reference another server not hosted by that domain, yes.
[18:27] <wheatthin> Xeago, well you need to select the built-in option.. hdmi will be to your graphics card
[18:27] <Masterjedi688> Never mind then
[18:27] <Xeago> wheatthin: that's done
[18:27] <Masterjedi688> Gtg
[18:27] <wheatthin> Xeago, and still no output?
[18:27] <justin___> hello?
[18:28] <sarahS> wheatthin: you mean, not hosted by that service provider? I can point the domain to whatever name server I want
[18:28] <Xeago> wheatthin: Correct. The full name of the audio device is "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
[18:28] <wheatthin> Xeago, then I'd go open up a terminal, type "alsamixer" and make sure nothing is muted
[18:29] <Xeago> wheatthin: "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory"
[18:29] <wheatthin> "alsamixer"
[18:29] <Xeago> I ran it as root, now it gives me a gui, let me see
[18:29] <wheatthin> Xeago, it shouldn't need root to launch..
[18:30] <wheatthin> type "groups" and see if you're apart of audio group
[18:30] <Xeago> no audio there
[18:30] <Xeago> (root also can't play audio if I try it with aplay, or whatever the command was)
[18:32] <Xeago> I added myself to that group, should I restart the computer, or reload alsa?
[18:32] <wheatthin> Xeago, My sound had went out, but showed Dummy Output. made me install some DKMS driver, that wasn't needed.. and update later and it was fixed. Can I see the guide you followed for troublehsooting?
[18:32] <wheatthin> Xeago, no, just relogin
[18:33] <Xeago> I don't have them anymore, I didn't install a driver, I ended up force-reloading alsa a few times
[18:33] <Xeago> and that's about it
[18:33] <Xeago> I searched for ubuntu i3 sound
[18:33] <q_a_z_steve> How do I check the disk for errors on the Ubuntu Mini cd?
[18:34] <Xeago> I can run alsamixer as myself now
[18:34] <rpadovani> hey all guys :-) I have a problemi with nvidia drivers: they are installed, but not in use
[18:34] <rpadovani> I do sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf and choose my driver
[18:34] <rpadovani> but at the reboot the modify is lost
[18:36] <eeee> justin____: if you type in the terminal /usr/bin/gedit , does it open?
[18:36] <Xeago> wheatthin: woo!
[18:36] <Xeago> thanks
[18:36] <BunsenBurner> hello again, I ran 'sudo less /var/log/syslog' and part of output looks like this; http://imagebin.org/318408  why could this be so?
[18:37] <nikitha> after install of oracle 11.2 on ubuntu
[18:38] <nikitha> getting this error
[18:38] <nikitha> ./sqlplus: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlplus.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:41] <BunsenBurner> my disk is ok, ram is ok..how can I check other components whether they work properly? which command can I use?
[18:45] <BunsenBurner> how can I check hardware components of my computer except for hdd and ram, which I checked already?
[18:45] <BunsenBurner> to find out what goes wrong and results in freezes
[18:46] <YamakasY_> thi is strange, 7 is installed and it complains:  Depends: libtomcat6-java (>= 6.0.20-7) but it is not going to be installed
[18:51] <userings> BunsenBurner, the other components can't be checked with software.
[18:51] <BunsenBurner> userings, ok, thank you
[18:52] <BunsenBurner> does this output say anything relevant to a problem about my wireless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8189996/ ?
[18:54] <BunsenBurner> or these ones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190004/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190006/ ?
[18:54] <wheatthin> YamakasY_, did you install with PPA by any chance?
[18:55] <BunsenBurner> I have to restart..will be back in a minute
[18:56] <ramsudharsan> "test message"
[18:56] <YamakasY_> wheatthin: java ?
[18:57] <Masterjedi688> Ok I'm back
[18:57] <ramsudharsan> anyone care for my introduction here? :P
[18:58] <cantoma> hey guys, I want to start a service which will be listening on some port for connections. At the moment I start this service by typing some command in a console. I want to avoid this by starting this service automatically after booting the system. In which files should I include my script command?
[18:58] <Masterjedi688> Can someone walk me through on how to connect to the Internet via a router?  How do I set it up?  I'm on my iPad right now.  It's a D Link router
[18:59] <eeee> cantoma: do you want it to be run by root?
[18:59] <cantoma> eeee, yes
[18:59] <Masterjedi688> Not sure
[19:00] <eeee> cantoma: /etc/rc.local
[19:00] <Masterjedi688> Would running it by root be easier?
[19:01] <cantoma> eeee, but is there a file where I can just write my script command?
[19:01] <guest-iNek7r> Hii all
[19:01] <guest-iNek7r> i am in guest session
[19:01] <cantoma> eeee, ok that is the file
[19:01] <guest-iNek7r> i want to make a drive bootble with an os
[19:01] <guest-iNek7r> how can i do
[19:02] <Masterjedi688> Hello?  Anyone?
[19:02] <guest-iNek7r> i can't access my root account
[19:02] <cantoma> eeee, will be executed just once at boot ?
[19:02] <guest-iNek7r> please hel
[19:02] <guest-iNek7r> help
[19:02] <eeee> cantoma: yes i think so,
[19:02] <cantoma> eeee, great
[19:05] <guest-iNek7r> any one here?
[19:05] <guest-iNek7r> please help
[19:07] <guest-iNek7r> i am totally lost
[19:07] <tonyt> what was the question
[19:07] <guest-iNek7r> I can't access my root account
[19:08] <guest-iNek7r> i am in guest account
[19:08] <tonyt> you got a bad password?
[19:08] <guest-iNek7r> no my keyboard isn't working
[19:08] <guest-iNek7r> I don;t know why..
[19:08] <guest-iNek7r> yesterday it was finely working but now some of the keys arn't working
[19:08] <tonyt> use a different keyboard or redo the os would be my advise
[19:09] <tonyt> you can buy a new keybaord for 10 bucks in the US. not sure where you are located
[19:09] <guest-iNek7r> i have neumeric password and neumeric keys are only not working
[19:09] <expunge> a new awful keyboard =)
[19:09] <tonyt> it works :)
[19:09] <guest-iNek7r> No, i think it would be my os problem
[19:09] <guest-iNek7r> i am using lubuntu
[19:10] <mitchicus> You could get by with on screen keyboard if you are a mouse wizard
[19:10] <q_a_z_steve> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso Will someone go grab this and tell me what md5 you get?
[19:10] <tonyt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[19:11] <tonyt> read that guest-iNek7r
[19:11] <tonyt> it may help
[19:12] <guest-iNek7r> but why these keys ar not working???
[19:12] <tonyt> language seting for the keyboard geet changed some how? that would be my guess
[19:12] <tonyt> *get
[19:13] <guest-iNek7r> its en_US
[19:13] <tonyt> make sure its set for your location and region
[19:13] <tonyt> keys not working like they are supposed, then a setting may have gotten changed by accident etc
[19:13] <guest-iNek7r> How to set it again??
[19:14] <tonyt> im not on ubuntu right now. just making a suggection
[19:14] <guest-iNek7r> only my one to four keys are not woking and down and left arrow key
[19:14] <tonyt> but what you are describing can be what im refeering to
[19:14] <guest-iNek7r> Ohkk
[19:14] <tonyt> one psoibility that is
[19:15] <tonyt> look in the menu for the settings apppet
[19:15] <tonyt> you hsould be able to access what your looking for in htere
[19:17] <stalaktitas> anybody able to log in so skype anymore? wtf happen? everything that microsoft touches lately gets retarded
[19:18] <guest-iNek7r> tonyt, same problem no success
[19:18] <tonyt> k. with the keyborad not being bad, thats all i can think of
[19:18] <DJ_Unibob> It might be a linux issue, I'm connected to Skype, but that's in windows right now.  :/
[19:19] <stalaktitas> same in win 8 at my work... it says can't connect to skype and that
[19:20] <mitchicus> If you haven't already, try disconnecting and reconnecting your keyboard, often works wonders
[19:20] <stalaktitas> alternatively it offers to log in with ms account which i do nto have, nor want one
[19:20] <userings> stalaktias, Micro$oft just cuts off the old Skype client versions...
[19:21] <userings> In order to update your client and watch their ads... all around new versions interface.
[19:22] <Beldar> userings, abusing MS only lowers your street cred even here.
[19:23] <Xentinel> can someone tell me what the recommended Ubuntu way of making and installing new libvirt VMs are at the moment? I know there's virt-manager, but if I was to do it entirely through terminal. I've had a look at JeOSVMbuilder and Ubuntu-vm-builder, but both seem to be outdated, so what's the proper way?
[19:23] <userings> And the excuse was that old versions are possibly security danger... M$ style, nothing new under the sun. However, their ads servers can be blocked with firewall or even with pointers t0 <IP_ADDRESS> for all ad domains in hosts file...
[19:23] <expunge> Xentinel: libvirt doesn't come with its own executables?
[19:23] <expunge> dpkg -L libvirt | grep bin
[19:24] <userings> Skype versions for Linux are still in 4.x range... they are ad-free, but, who knows for future...
[19:25] <expunge> there's nothing in particular forcing you to use such a locked down client
[19:27] <stalaktitas> ok, but official download of skype 4.3 does not want to install with ubuntu software center, install king of finishes, but version stays the same...
[19:27] <Xentinel> expunge, sure there's virsh, where I can import xml files, but I was thinking something a little less troublesome
[19:27] <sydney> Ok,i created a swap partion on a seperate hd,but havent done anything to the original one. How do i disable the original one,and enable the one on a seperate drive?
[19:28] <userings> stalaktitas, try install it from .deb packages that are available on skype.com.
[19:28] <guest-iNek7r> tonyt, how to check my key pressses
[19:28] <sydney> permanently :)
[19:28] <guest-iNek7r> from /dev dir
[19:29] <qwerkus> sydney> edit your /etc/fstab
[19:30] <sydney> And what do i do?
[19:30] <Elm> Installing ubuntu server as the only OS on a machine. When it goes to reboot I get blinking cursor, no grub or nothing. I've installed server four or five times before with no problem. Is there a GRUB question I'm missing?
[19:31] <stalaktitas> userings, well thats what i'm doing, dowloading the file, it offers to open it with ubuntu software center, shows install button, i press it, it ask for admin pass, i'm entering it, it shows the process that its installing, after the process finishes, the install button still says install... i just do not get it
[19:31] <Beldar> Elm, Is there more than one HD?
 open as admin (sudo), find the swap line, change the disk id to the new one, and you're done
[19:32] <sydney> oh
[19:32] <userings> stalaktitas, you also have to enable MultiArch with ' sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386'.
[19:32] <userings> *should
[19:33] <Elm> Beldar, no, one HDD. I am installing from a USB stick and I was wondering if it was somehow doing it to there but I don't think it is. I'd been using Guided - Use Entire Disk. Partiioning mode. I'm sitting at that screen now.
 and plz, before rebooting, check that it actually works with sudo mount -a
[19:34] <Elm> Beldar, additionally.. the partitioner makes #1 EFI Boot, #2 EXT4, #3 swap. And that drive is sdf with sde being the USB.
[19:34] <kowalski> how can i change my nick?
[19:34] <sydney> Whats that do?
[19:34] <sydney> kowalski: ask on #freenode
[19:35] <sydney> quem: How?
[19:35] <kowalski> it's my first time here, sydney
 man mount: -a mounts all devices listed in fstab
[19:35] <sydney> oops :P
[19:35] <expunge> kowalski: /nick foo
[19:36] <sydney> so? It didnt show any issues...
[19:36] <foo> is my nick foo now?
[19:37] <expunge> foo: sure is
[19:37] <sydney> yes :)
[19:37] <qwerkus> lol  :)
[19:37] <stalaktitas> userings, just did it, same procedure, install button changes back to install after the process is over, skype is still 4.2... wth...
[19:37] <foo> whats does means foo, expunge and sydney?
[19:37] <foo> :D
[19:37] <sydney> quem: so,it mounted if no errors were shown?
[19:37] <expunge> foo: it's the universal first placeholder
[19:37] <expunge> foo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[19:37] <userings> stalaktitus, wait, what do you want to do at all?
[19:38] <foo> oh, thanks expunge! :D
[19:38] <expunge> foo: I wouldn't recommend using it as a nick =)
[19:38] <Beldar> Elm, I'm not up on uefi if it were me I would set it as legacy and make a msdos partition table and use the mbr, I assume this is not a apple computer.
[19:38] <qwerkus> sydney: than you are good to go. Alternatively, you can manually set swap via swapon/swapoff
[19:38] <stalaktitas> update my skype from 4.2 to the latest version that i'm dowloading from skype.com whitch is 4.3
[19:38] <foo> oh my god!
[19:38] <foo> haha
[19:39] <Elm> Beldar, it isn't it's a homebuilt. I was just trusting the auto partitioner :P
[19:39] <sydney> quem: i just dont want to have to do that ever time :)
 sure; that's what fstab is for
[19:39] <domsan> Hi guys, need some help setting up a backup script
[19:40] <userings> stalakitos, what happen when you try to install the packet from terminal?
[19:40] <userings> sudo dpkg -i skype* ?
[19:42] <TJ-> Elm: Beldar "blinking cursor" see https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader
[19:43] <stalaktitas> userings, it says: dpkg: warning: downgrading skype from <IP_ADDRESS>-1 to <IP_ADDRESS>-1   :D
[19:43] <userings> stalakitus, look at this: http://askubuntu.com/a/488062
[19:43] <stalaktitas> and once its done, its its still 4.2 once I oppen it
[19:44] <userings> First purge all old Skype versions and remove all folders associated with it.
[19:44] <domsan> mysqldump -u root -p MYPASS --all-databases > sicherung.sql what am I doing wrong
[19:45] <GandalfGreyHat> Hello everybody
[19:45] <GandalfGreyHat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242037
[19:47] <GandalfGreyHat> I have tried more than 10 times to get Ubuntu running on my Lenovo H535
[19:47] <GandalfGreyHat> It will not
[19:47] <GandalfGreyHat> I don't understan
[19:48] <stalaktitas> userings, kudos to you great sir!
[19:50] <interweb> Hi , I want to format my external hard drive from exFAT to FAT32 and I've looked at Ubuntu 14.04 Disks software and there is an option named "Compatable with all devices (FAT)" Does it format to FAT32 or other FAT versions ?
[19:50] <userings> stalakitos, is it works now?
[19:51] <stalaktitas> yes, did not work untill i did this: rm -rf ~/.Skype
[19:51] <stalaktitas> it would still open 4.2

[19:52] <stalaktitas> now it's all good, i'm using it now, yay :)
[19:52] <interweb> gutokowalski, Sorry ?
[19:52] <gutokowalski> how can i mention a user here?
[19:52] <userings> : )
[19:52] <stalaktitas> thank you
[19:53] <interweb> Is FAT in ubuntu 14.04 Disks means FAT32 or not ?
[19:53] <interweb> *Does
[19:53] <q_a_z_steve> gutokowalski: usually just typing their name (or TAB completing) will highlight them on their side. So that helps them wake up and see you are talking to them in a busy channel.
[19:54] <TJ-> interweb: test it on a small temporary block device
[19:54] <interweb> TJ-, I don't have any :/
[19:54] <pavillon> non scarica ubittorrent
[19:56] <gutokowalski> q_a_z_steve: thank you so much!
[19:56] <copystring> hi guys, i've got a problem with bridging 2 intefaces on my ubuntu pc. i've googled etc and not much good came up. anyone good at this?
[19:56] <q_a_z_steve> gutokowalski: I often work in #freenode to get even more of that stuff.
[19:56] <TJ-> interweb: "dd if=/dev/zero of=temp.img bs=512 count=1M && sudo losetup /dev/loop0 temp.img" - now you have a 512MB block device at "/dev/loop0" you can play with. To delete it: "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 && rm temp.img"
[19:57] <q_a_z_steve> "work" as in ask the staff and other IRC focused folk.
[19:59] <TJ-> copystring: "brctl addbr br0; brctl addif br0 eth0; brctl addif br0 eth1; ip address add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev br0"
[19:59] <circ-user-q6P0P> hi all
[20:00] <circ-user-q6P0P> i have a question the me and a friend can't find the answer
[20:01] <cuddylier> Anyone know how I would ban: <IP_ADDRESS> - - [30/Aug/2014:21:34:54 +0100] "GET /?117265=734709 HTTP/1.0" 502 173 "-" "WordPress/3.3.2; http://theness.com/roguesgallery"
[20:01] <cuddylier> That with fail2ban? Anything that says WordPress
[20:01] <copystring> TJ-: yes, I've got the /etc/network/intefaces setup so it should do this on boot. ubuntu then waits for ages on boot and eventually starts without networking
[20:01] <cuddylier> I need to ban
[20:01] <circ-user-q6P0P> i was wondering if you can turn a genie in to a media system
[20:01] <TJ-> copystring: can you "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces" ?
[20:02] <copystring> yes, hold on
[20:03] <gutokowalski> hey, guys, is plymouth bugged on your ubuntu installations?
[20:04] <copystring> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/ax4fY3sf
[20:05] <circ-user-q6P0P> any one have a clue on how to do this
[20:05] <qwerkus> ole: it's going to be a decade I use linux, and today is the first day I actually made use of the possibilty to boot an old kernel
[20:05] <TJ-> copystring: "bridge_ports" not "bridge-ports"
[20:05] <gutokowalski> every time i shut down my ubuntu 14.04 the display shows some informations about the task at that moment like "unmounted dev" etc
[20:06] <gutokowalski> is it normal?
[20:06] <Alexander_> yeah
[20:06] <gutokowalski> is not that a bug?
[20:06] <gutokowalski> =/
[20:07] <interweb> TJ-, Could you do it ? I am formating it for awhile and don't want to start over
[20:07] <copystring> TJ-: oh right. well I've also tried to strip the bridge down to just auto br0; iface br0 inet manual and that made no difference
[20:08] <TJ-> interweb: You can create the file anywhere, as per my example, it doesn't require a physical device. You should be able to start another instance of the tool you're using
[20:09] <circ-user-q6P0P> i was wondering if you can turn a genie in to a media system
[20:09] <circ-user-q6P0P> i was wondering if you can turn a genie in to a media system
[20:09] <circ-user-q6P0P> any one have a clue on how to do this
[20:09] <chloe> salut
[20:09] <TJ-> copystring: Well, it does depend on what the precise error is. If some services are waiting for the bridge interface to come up then any misconfiguration will cause the timeout at boot
[20:09] <chloe> salut
[20:09] <TJ-> !patience | circ-user-q6P0P
[20:10] <chloe> iuhuih
[20:10] <prohobo> halp, ubuntu doesn't recognize my built-in webcam
[20:10] <circ-user-q6P0P> LOL okay
[20:10] <prohobo> what do?
[20:11] <prohobo> i installed cheese
[20:11] <prohobo> i installed gvnuview or whatever it's called
[20:11] <TJ-> copystring: how about using "bridge_maxwait"? See "man 5 bridge-utils-interfaces"
[20:12] <copystring> TJ-: yes, i thought i could use that. unfortunately that made no change either
[20:12] <bdunlap> Hi, everyone. Does anyone here have a problem trying to log into ubuntu forums? I am logging in successfully with my OpenID but the forums don't detect I'm logged in.
[20:12] <TJ-> copystring: Makes sense, since it's not the network scripts that are delaying, it is other services
[20:12] <gutokowalski> in windows system you don't see any information when you shut down the pc
[20:12] <ikonia> bdunlap: contact one of the forum admins
[20:13] <bdunlap> I tried, it said I had to be logged in to view the profile.
[20:13] <copystring> TJ-: it must be. i'm not sure where to take it from here though
[20:13] <ikonia> bdunlap: the guys in #ubuntuforums sometimes have some forum admins in there, worth checking
[20:13] <gutokowalski> in windows you only see the logoff screen when you shut down the pc
[20:13] <bdunlap> ikonia, thank you. I'll go there.
[20:14] <TJ-> copystring: First, get it working manually so "ifup br0" and "ifdown br0" work correctly, and any additional routing you need is also added. Once that works, on boot the interfaces file will be processed in the same way by "ifup -a"
[20:15] <TJ-> gutokowalski: Linux is a text console based OS, with the optional X windows GUI on top
[20:16] <gutokowalski> TJ-: i understand
[20:16] <prohobo> what can i do to make ubuntu recognize my webcam?
[20:17] <TJ-> gutokowalski: So on shutdown, the X server is stopped before other services, some of which will write messages to the console. Usually a 'splash' screen will make them invisible, but sometimes it is removed before some messages are written, so you get to see them
[20:17] <copystring> TJ-: does that mean when i do "ifup -a" it should hang while it's misconfigured?
[20:18] <TJ-> copystring: That depends :) If for example the service than causes the hang is an NFS mount, then simply adding "_netdev" as an option in fstab may well solve the issue
[20:18] <dw1> how do i view my grub settings again
[20:18] <dw1> thought it was dconf list or something
[20:19] <TJ-> dw1: "cat /etc/default/grub" ?
[20:19] <prohobo> can someone help me find a way to get ubuntu to recognize my webcam? i've searched the googles and found nothing useful
[20:19] <prohobo> or someone even
[20:20] <dw1> i want to list the config with the *'s next to the devices that are active in grub
[20:20] <TJ-> prohobo: show us "pastebinit <(lsusb && lspci -nn)"
[20:21] <gutokowalski> TJ-:  thank you! i understand now
[20:21] <copystring> TJ-: i see. i'm not so sure how to figure out what's causing the hang. i've looked in dmesg. i don't know where else i could look to figure out what's causing this
[20:21] <prohobo> TJ-: alright ty, btw pastebinit is cool
[20:22] <TJ-> dw1: That sounds like the grub-install reconfiguration, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc"
[20:22] <dw1> think it ws dconf-show
[20:22] <dw1> but its missing now :/
[20:22] <prohobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190689/
[20:23] <gutokowalski> TJ-: do you think it's possible linux distros will fix that?
[20:23] <prohobo> could it be the unassigned class?
[20:24] <prohobo> nvm that's some kind of controller
[20:24] <TJ-> gutokowalski: There's nothing to fix - it is one of the strengths of Linux vs Windows - very useful logging/debug information generated from all services all the time. Makes troubleshooting and fixing fast and accurate
[20:25] <Elm> Grub installed to wrong drive (installed to USB instead of the HDD) how do I fix? I can get into the grub of the USB: "Install Ubuntu Server" "Rescue..." etc
[20:25] <gutokowalski> TJ-: oh, i got it. very good explanations!
[20:26] <totimkop1> hi, how do I install apt-file on ubuntu 12.04? :S I'm a bit puzzled I can't find the package with apt-cache...
[20:26] <gutokowalski> TJ-: you made my day! i lost some nights trying to understand it
[20:26] <gutokowalski> :D :)
[20:27] <trism> totimkop1: just: sudo apt-get install apt-file; although it is in universe, so maybe you have that disabled
[20:28] <TJ-> prohobo: It looks like 5986:055c Acer, Inc, vendor 5986 is: "The Acer Crystal Eye webcams are manufactured by Biso"
[20:28] <Elm> Nevermind I bet I figured it out.
[20:28] <prohobo> TJ-: where did you get that info?
[20:29] <prohobo> oh i see
[20:29] <TJ-> prohobo: show us "pastebinit <(lsusb -vd 5986:055c)"
[20:29] <Basketball> When I open a pptx file or whatever the default power point is, it open with that icon (second from the right) and a .docx open with the icon on the far right in launhcer. Why doesn't it open in the libre writer and impress icons?
[20:29] <TJ-> prohobo: https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/5986
[20:29] <gutokowalski> hey, guys! we need to vote for TJ- for president! :D
[20:30] <gutokowalski> TJ- rules in the linux world! :D
[20:32] <prohobo> TJ-: got Couldn't open device, some information will be missing, but here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190745/
[20:32] <prohobo> this is really low level hardware stuff, is this really necessary?
[20:32] <TJ-> prohobo: Yes
[20:34] <prohobo> btw i appreciate the help TJ-
[20:34] <TJ-> prohobo: That information tells me the camera is USB Video Class compliant, which infers that the Linux UVC driver would be able to manage it, if the driver knew the device's ID - which it currently doesn't
[20:36] <prohobo> so can i set the driver's configuration to the ID through the shell?
[20:36] <prohobo> if there is a configuration even
[20:38] <TJ-> prohobo: No, unfortunately that functionality isn't there. Usually we have to send the device's USB ID and info (as we just pastebinned) to the mailing list of the uvcvideo developers, so they can add it into the Linux kernel
[20:39] <totimkop1> trism: how do I check if I have it disabled?
[20:40] <prohobo> alright thanks TJ-
[20:40] <prohobo> you used me to improve ubuntu
[20:40] <trism> totimkop1: software-properties-gtk; make sure Community-maintained free and open-source software (universe) is checked then run: sudo apt-get update; and try again
[20:40] <prohobo> and i'm okay with that
[20:41] <TJ-> prohobo: It might just work... does this show anything "lsmod | grep uvcvideo" ?
[20:41] <prohobo> yes
[20:41] <prohobo> i get 4 entries, or 4 lines
[20:42] <TJ-> prohobo: Good, that is the driver loaded. Now show me "pastebinit /var/log/desmg" please
[20:42] <Kirito_> Can I create a private network here and have my friends join? If someone can help me out I would appreciate it a lot.
[20:42] <expunge> Kirito_: /join #whatever
[20:42] <Kaiii> hey, any RetroArch gamers here?
[20:42] <TJ-> prohobo: uvcvideo wouldn't be loaded unless some device it manages is found, and the only thing would be the camera, unless you've got more than one camera
[20:42] <expunge> Kirito_: talk to #freenode if you want "permanent" ownership, otherwise just sitting in the channel takes care of it
[20:42] <SuperPetRalf> Just started RetoArch on a Pi
[20:42] <prohobo> TJ-: unable to read from /var/log/desmg
[20:43] <TJ-> prohobo: Sorry; my typo! "pastebinit /var/log/dmsg" please
[20:43] <copystring> TJ-: the bridge works now. pinging other members in the network doesn't work though. I assume it's because of missing routing. i didn't think i'd need routing for that
[20:43] <prohobo> no, just the builtin cam
[20:43] <TJ-> prohobo: Sorry; my typo again "" "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" please
[20:43] <prohobo> lol
[20:43] <prohobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190821/
[20:44] <TJ-> copystring: depends on whether they're all in the same subnet
[20:44] <totimkop1> trism: I can't install that, it turns out I can't install python-pycurl which is a dependency for python-software-properites, which is a dependency for sofware-properties-gtk etc
[20:44] <totimkop1> trism: it might help to know that I'm using precise server
[20:44] <TJ-> prohobo: The camera works: [   10.858161] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device BisonCam, NB Pro (5986:055c)
[20:45] <TJ-> prohobo: to discover its device name, do "ls /dev/video*"
[20:45] <prohobo> okay
[20:45] <prohobo> video0
[20:46] <TJ-> prohobo: OK, so any application that wants to use the camera needs to access "/dev/video0"
[20:46] <prohobo> are you saying i shouldnt have a problem?
[20:46] <copystring> they should be. the mask is <IP_ADDRESS> and the ips are <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <TJ-> copystring: Any VLAN configuration via a switch?
[20:47] <gutokowalski> i want to thanks to TJ- and q_a_z_steve for beeing so useful and attentious today! :)
[20:47] <TJ-> prohobo: Yes, although some applications may not be able to handle some or all of the video formats the camera puts out
[20:47] <prohobo> Cheese just says "There was an error playing video from the webcam"
[20:47] <prohobo> cameriod gives a blank page
[20:47] <copystring> TJ-: i've heard of VLAN but not sure what that is. I doubt i've set that up.
[20:47] <TJ-> prohobo: Yes, that sounds like a cheese issue. Try "sudo apt-get install guvcview"
[20:48] <prohobo> and gvnuview or whatever it's called just says something isn't right
[20:48] <prohobo> yeah
[20:48] <prohobo> even that gives an error
[20:48] <TJ-> copystring: are all the hosts connected on the same switch?
[20:48] <TJ-> prohobo: OK, lets find out then
[20:49] <copystring> TJ-: yes
[20:49] <prohobo> guvcview asks me to reconnect my camera
[20:49] <prohobo> unable to start with minimal setup
[20:49] <TJ-> prohobo: In a terminal run "guvcview /dev/video0" ... it'll report something, maybe errors, then pastebin those for me
[20:50] <prohobo> huh
[20:50] <prohobo> it says device or resource busy, 1 sec
[20:51] <TJ-> prohobo: Use this command: "guvcview /dev/video0 2>&1 | pastebinit "
[20:51] <prohobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190864/
[20:51] <TJ-> prohobo: For comparison, here is the result from my camera: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190857/
[20:53] <TJ-> prohobo: That's a good debug capture, we now know what is wrong: "libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy" when it checks format
[20:54] <prohobo> i dunno why, but i have a feeling it's because of Windows 8
[20:54] <TJ-> prohobo: Can you show me "pastebinit <(sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log)"
[20:55] <prohobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8190903/
[20:56] <TJ-> prohobo: That log seems to indicate that the system recently resumed from sleep. Have you tested the camera immediately after a *cold* (no power supplied) boot ?
[20:57] <prohobo> i knew it was fucking windows 8
[20:57] <prohobo> windows 8 does the hibernate thing
[20:57] <prohobo> i havent tried that TJ-
[20:57] <expunge> sounds like you figured it out
[20:57] <TJ-> prohobo: The log suggests Ubuntu was put to sleep
[20:58] <aantoon> hi, i f-ed up big time and need some help, i have a 1.5tb external usb hard disk. it was luks encrypted. i think it was One big NTFS partition but i'm not 100% sure. per mistake i formated it to a 1.3gb(unknown) dabian  iso the rest is now unallocated. is there any way i can restore it to previous or get at lease the data from the unallocated space back?
[20:58] <OerHeks> bisoncam, try " vlc v412:///dev/video0 "
[20:58] <TJ-> prohobo: But I see things like this "PM: Device 00:08 failed to resume: error -19" and wonder if it is just that the device can't be correctly reinitialised on resume
[20:58] <prohobo> so i should try to just restart ubuntu for now?
[20:58] <prohobo> err my laptop
[20:59] <prohobo> or should i take out the battery
[20:59] <prohobo> and boot up cold
[20:59] <TJ-> prohobo: Try a cold start. power off, remove the battery for 30 seconds if that is possible, reconnect it, boot, try camera
[20:59] <prohobo> and hope windows 8 doesnt think it's hibernating
[20:59] <prohobo> okay thanks brb
[20:59] <TJ-> prohobo: If it is UEFI, you can disable Quick/Fast-boot in the setup
[21:00] <TJ-> OerHeks: The problem is in libv4l2, so it'll affect vlc the same as all other clients
[21:00] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> Hello Ubuntu
[21:01] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> I am back with my quest to get good WiFi drivers
[21:02] <copystring> TJ-: as far as i know i don't need routing with my setup. any idea what might be the problem?
[21:02] <TJ-> copystring: Where are we at problem-wise? Host cannot ping neighbours in sub-net?
[21:03] <copystring> TJ-: yes. ping doesn't work to and from the ubuntu pc
[21:04] <Guest36109> Morning all! Is this the place for a quick help question?
[21:05] <srobert> Guest36109: Depends on the question.
[21:05] <OerHeks> -quick maybe
[21:06] <Guest36109> I can't figure out how to keep the name column in nautilus from narrowing itself to uselessness. I've eliminated all extra columns but it still happens...
[21:06] <copystring> TJ-: funny. connecting my android to the AP and pinging the ubuntu pc from it via terminal works
[21:07] <TJ-> copystring: router issue?
[21:07] <TJ-> copystring: can the Ubuntu PC ping the Android device?
[21:07] <Guest36109> any ideas? mint doesn't do this, but Id rather use ubuntu
[21:08] <prohobo> my god, i'm so sorry TJ-
[21:08] <prohobo> it works
[21:08] <Pat__> help!!!  Just upgrded to 14.04 and now the computer is showing a blnk screen
[21:08] <TJ-> prohobo: Yay :)
[21:08] <prohobo> thanks
[21:08] <TJ-> another satisfied customer :)
[21:08] <copystring> TJ-: actually no. i can't ping either way
[21:08] <srobert> Guest36109: I don't have nautilus, but in thunar, the mouse can resize the headings to arbitrarily large.
[21:09] <prohobo> all that, and all i had to do was remove the battery
[21:09] <srobert> I think they're pretty similar
[21:09] <Guest36109> that works most of the time, but in a non-maximized window the width is not adjustable
[21:09] <Pat__> black screen... there was no indication 14.04 even loaded
[21:09] <TJ-> copystring: Get to a terminal on the router, and test from there. It sounds like a bad port (change ports) or a VLAN or firewall issue
[21:09] <Guest36109> thanks for the answer btw
[21:10] <copystring> TJ-: or simply loads of typos :P
[21:10] <jhutchins> Pat__: What did you upgrade from?
[21:10] <TJ-> prohobo: It's not unusual for devices to get themselves confused after a suspend/resume cycle, especially those devices that are supposed to use an industry standard (in this case USB VC) but have bugs in them
[21:10] <prohobo> now i can take pictures of myself naked
[21:11]  * TJ- hides behind OerHeks
[21:11] <Pat__> not sure... I think it was 12
[21:11] <prohobo> yeah, i'll have to do something with the W8 hibernation
[21:11] <prohobo> i tried to disable it
[21:11] <prohobo> but i guess i didnt do enough
[21:12] <circ-user-q6P0P> okay im out
[21:12] <spOngebOb> I have problem on my ubuntu it says  /bin/cat: cannot execute binary file
[21:13] <jhutchins> Pat__: Try adding nomodeset or noapci or noapic to the boot command line.
[21:13] <jhutchins> Pat__: Do you know what video chipset you have?
[21:13] <Pat__> I was unable to upgrade before..had to take it in for reinstallatio of previous
[21:13] <jhutchins> Pat__: Can you reach ctrl-alt-F1?
[21:14] <Pat__> don't know my video chip
[21:14] <TJ-> spOngebOb: that is usually caused by trying to execute files for the wrong machine architecture
[21:14] <Pat__> just tried ctrl alt delete ..nothing happened
[21:14] <Basketballl> how do i completly remove libre 4.3 with all the folders it installed
[21:14] <copystring> TJ-: OK. a reboot fixed everything. ping to everything works including internet :)
[21:14] <jhutchins> Pat__: Well, get it to a console using the above or boot to rescue mode and do lspci
[21:15] <TJ-> copystring: phew :)
[21:15] <Pat__> also tried f12 same result
[21:15] <jhutchins> Pat__: ctrl-alt-F1 is different.
[21:15] <spOngebOb> TJ- , is rebooting my VPS can solve this problem?
[21:15] <TJ-> spOngebOb: I doubt it
[21:15] <jhutchins> Pat__: F1 - F6 should give you a console
[21:15] <Pat__> sorry meant ctr alt f1
[21:16] <jhutchins> spOngebOb: How did you get to this point?
[21:16] <mkanyicy> Basketballl: sudo apt-get purge libreoffice-*
[21:16] <jhutchins> spOngebOb: That sounds like what happens when people mix i386 and x86_64
[21:16] <TJ-> spOngebOb: It depends on when the issue occurs, what command you/a script is trying to execute, what you may have installed, etc. That error is common when people install ARM packages on Intel X86 systems, e.g. Android developers
[21:16] <Basketballl> mkanyicy,  why the *
[21:17] <mkanyicy> Basketballl: to remove all libreoffice applications
[21:19] <geirha> best quote that pattern
[21:19] <Basketballl> why isnt 4.3 in the 13.04 ppa
[21:19] <Pat__> am at a command line..tried 1spci...grub reply'can't find command'
[21:19] <eeee> Pat__: it's lspci not 1spci
[21:20] <jhutchins> Basketballl: 13.04 is EOL
[21:20] <Pat__> got it.. now what?
[21:20] <Basketballl> jhattara,  i meant 12.04
[21:22] <eeee> Pat__: what are you trying to do
[21:22] <Pat__> just upgraded to 14.04 and it's not booting
[21:23] <eeee> Pat__: define not booting
[21:23] <Pat__> computer turns on but no ubuntu loading
[21:23] <totimkop1> trism: okay, problem solved. for some reason a bunch of repos had a lot of bad checksums, so I just rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo apt-get update and now I'm able to install apt-file among others..
[21:24] <jhutchins> Basketballl: I would guess that since 14.04 is the current LTS they're not updating 12.04 as quickly.
[21:25] <Sven_vB> i'm installing Ubuntu trusty from Live USB, and near "reticulating splines" i chroot into the target file system in order to adjust grub menu settings. my distribution name is generated by an expression that contains $(hostname -s), which currently yields "ubuntu". is there a way to change my invocation of ubdate-grub so that its lookup will yield the target hostname instead of the live session hostname, or do i absolutely have to change the
[21:25] <Sven_vB> distribution lookup command?
[21:25] <Basketballl> hey Snake2k
[21:25] <Pat__> i'm in the minimal bash like line editing right now
[21:26] <jhutchins> Pat__: Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - very noisy, but might show the problem.
[21:27] <jhutchins> Pat__: lspci is ls (list) for the PCI bus, there's also lsusb.
[21:28] <Pat__> tried /var etc in the command line..can't find command
[21:28] <aantoon> is luks header only stored on the encrypted disk?
[21:29] <TJ-> Pat__: Is it the "grub rescue>" shell or the initial RAMdisk shell?
[21:29] <TJ-> aantoon: Unless you detach it, yes
[21:30] <Pat__> don't know.. esc out to Ubuntu with advanced options was trying the command line before
[21:30] <jhutchins> Pat__: Oh, grub shell, not much you can do from there.  From the boot menu you can edit the command lines (press e).
[21:31] <aantoon> TJ- thing is i used it befor i messed it up (format) and i wonder if it still somewhere in my system so i can try and recover data
[21:31] <jhutchins> !rescue
[21:31] <eeee> !nomodeset | Pat__
[21:31] <jhutchins> Pat__: THis has changed in 14.04
 spOngebOb: That sounds like what happens when people mix i386 and x86_64 <-- :(
[21:32] <aantoon> TJ- cryptsetup luksDump gives"not a valid LUKS device" can i get from somewhere else?
[21:32] <Pat__> ok so I enter !nomodeset.. correct?
[21:33] <spOngebOb> jhutchins but its working earlier though, bt right now it says cannot execute binary file :(
[21:33] <Pat__> where?
[21:34] <TJ-> aantoon: Not unless you previously backed it up
[21:34] <eeee> Pat__: no, that's for the bot to give you the info
[21:34] <spOngebOb> Btw im using VPS
[21:34] <eeee> Pat__: when you're in grub, press e to edit and then after where it says quiet splash, add nomodeset
[21:35] <eeee> then let press ctrl+x or x or something to execute it
[21:35] <spOngebOb> should i contact the vps hosting ?
[21:35] <Loshki> jhutchins: nomodeset has changed?
[21:35] <spOngebOb> when  i do apt-get update it wont fetch any data
[21:35] <aantoon> TJ- blast...i did not i was making a startup debian usb-stick and clicked the wrong disk.... is all my data gone? is there noting i can do?
[21:36] <jhutchins> spOngebOb: The question is what did you do prior to having this problem?  If it just happened spontaneously without any updates or changes on your part, you may have a failing system.
[21:36] <jhutchins> spOngebOb: Also, VPS implies publicly exposed, so it could have been hacked.
[21:36] <TJ-> aantoon: This is the point of encryption... without the keys the data is so much randomness
[21:37] <jhutchins> spOngebOb: Sounds like it might be time to have them reinstall then restore your data.  Often you can't arbitrarily update a VPS because they use customized software.
[21:37] <TJ-> aantoon: This is why it is recommended to backup encryption headers, key-files, passphrases, and so forth
[21:37] <Pat__> ok nomdeset added... now what?
[21:37] <aantoon> TJ- oh man i'm gone cry
[21:38] <jhutchins> Loshki: Kernel boot options have changed, single mode doesn't work any more, there are strange "target" names for systemd.
[21:38] <eeee> Pat__: it should say below how you can run it
[21:38] <spOngebOb> jhutchins , i ahve cpanel , bt the thing is all my files is in ubunto , when i re-install other OS , it will be automaticlly deleted.
[21:38] <eeee> press ctrl+x or f10 or whatever to run
[21:38] <Loshki> jhutchins: do you know if are these documented somewhere?
[21:38] <jhutchins> spOngebOb: It does sound like you might need to talk to support.
[21:39] <aantoon> TJ- are you 100% sure i can do nothing to retrieve something?
[21:39] <Pat__> press ctrl-x or f10 to boot... so i'm trying to boot now?
[21:40] <eeee> yeah
[21:41] <TJ-> aantoon: You've formatted the block device you said, with another file system? LUKS header starts in sector 0 of the block device, so if you've written over that, its gone
[21:41] <jhutchins> aantoon: What were you using to make the startup disk?
[21:41] <aantoon> dd
[21:42] <jhutchins> aantoon: What was your source?
[21:42] <Pat__> ctrl-x gives me blinking cursor in the upper left corner..nothing else
[21:43] <aantoon> jhutchins debian-live-7.6.0-i386-gnome-desktop.iso
[21:43] <jhutchins> aantoon: Experience is proportionate to data destroyed.  You have just gained some experience.
[21:43] <jhutchins> !photorec
[21:43] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> Seg fault from insmod WL.ko
[21:43] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> Doesn't seem like a good sign
[21:43] <jhutchins> aantoon: No, photorec won't work on a partial encrypted disk.
[21:44] <Pat__> was there sopposed to be a "!" in front of the nomedeset?
[21:44] <eeee> Pat__: did it say press ctrl+x to boot ?
[21:44] <aantoon> jhutchins no-no it was one partition
[21:44] <jhutchins> Pat__: No Mode Set
[21:45] <jhutchins> aantoon: I wouldn't invest any time in trying to recover it.
[21:45] <Pat__> yes it did... and yes i typed nomodeset.....i'm on atablet right now
[21:47] <eeee> ok
[21:47] <eeee> can you drop to a root shell from the advanced options > recovery > root shell?
[21:57] <jhutchins> Pat__: You could also see if Ctrl-alt-F1 works from the blinking cursor - that could just be a dead x session.
[21:59] <Pat__> doesn't work
[22:00] <jerec><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:02] <jhutchins> aantoon: Given what you've told us no, nothing you can do to recover from that.  You've overwritten anything that might make it possible to mount the disk, you've overwritten some of the data.  You have nothing left on the disk but a boot image and garble.
[22:03] <Pat__> going back to grub...i have 4options ican edit....unbuntu....advanced option for ubuntu... and 2 memory tests. i've been editing in ubuntu..advanced options include some recovery. should i try something else?
[22:07] <Pat__> is it possible this install has damaged my data?
[22:08] <aantoon> jhutchins yea i guess your right, it so sad, i just thought because i used it before i messed up that the header would be in the memory or log file or something since i did not turn off the machine it would be .....
[22:08] <Pat__> the install is on an acer laptop
[22:08] <aantoon> os sad
[22:12] <Pat__> i tried booting 'ibuntu with linux 3.13.0-35-generic (recovery mode)' and got a screen full of large font code and a curser which responded to nothing
[22:14] <TJ-> Pat__: Try the Advanced menu again. This time though, highlight and then edit the "Recovery" entry, and at the end of the "linux ..." line add the text "init=/bin/bash", then press Ctrl+X to try booting it
[22:15] <Pat__> I've also noticed the 'nomodeset' is gone from the line of code i edited
[22:15] <TJ-> Pat__: Edits to the menu are transient, they are only for that boot instance. Permanent entries have to be put in the configuration file that GRUB reads
[22:19] <Pat__> ok.....screen full of large font and a blinking curser
[22:20] <TJ-> Pat__: any chance you can take a photo and upload it?
[22:24] <Pat__> took a pic but ho do i upload to th icr?
[22:24] <rww> !imagebin
[22:29] <deniskatko> i need help
[22:30] <deniskatko> alguem fala portugues aqui
[22:31] <Pat__> ok uploaded pic to imgur.com
[22:33] <rww> ubottu: pt | deniskatko
[22:35] <TJ-> Pat__: You need to give us the URL
[22:36] <Pat__> i1qBo6f
[22:38] <sveinse> Hi I'm dualbooting a 14.04 instance on A) by running it natively (booting from native disk) and B) from VirtualBox where VB has access to phy disk. Now this works fine except for X, where natively I'd like to use the nvidia driver, while on vbox you'd need the vbox graphics driver.
[22:40] <sveinse> If I install nvidia drivers, they override the xorg.conf file, so it breaks vbox graphics. When I remove that, X starts the way it should, but nothing happens after lightdm login. It does not proceed and shows the bg image only. Mouse works fine. X orgs claims everything is fine. How can I debug this? Where can I see where it is locking up?
[22:40] <sveinse> If I uninstall nvidia drivers from my machine, the login proceeds. Is there some nvidia startup app that could be blocking the entire thing?
[22:40] <jhutchins> sveinse: So you need to swap out the xorg.conf file if you're booting the VM.
[22:41] <TJ-> Pat__: OK, what you have there is a Kernel Panic, resulting in a CPU status dump and stack-trace. I see "attempt to kill init" which suggests you got a shell prompt and typed "exit" or pressed Ctrl+D. Otherwise, the init shell (/bin/bash) crashed for some weird reason
[22:42] <sveinse> jhutchins: Yes. that's the simple part. But after login, I get nothing from the window manager. It just sits there. How can I debug what happens after lightdm login, do you know?
[22:44] <jhutchins> sveinse: Are you passing USB or PS/2 input devices?
[22:44] <sveinse> jhutchins: No, not yet
[22:44] <jhutchins> sveinse: I mean what is the Hypervisor passing to the VM?
[22:45] <jhutchins> sveinse: It's after you log in?  What desktop.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:45] <Pat__> I'm back.. got kicked off... did you find the pic?
[22:46] <sveinse> jhutchins: Well, nothing except the mouse and kbd integration that works. X is alive. It scales whenever I scale my guest window. And Xorg.0.log sais its happy. I'm trying vanilla 14.04, so its the Unity desktop that isn't starting
[22:47] <jhutchins> sveinse: Sorry, I don't know anything about Unity.  Obviously, trying something like xfce might be useful.
[22:47] <sveinse> If I uninstall the nvidia drivers, it seems to be starting properly. So I'd guess its an startup application that blocks it
[22:47] <TJ-> Pat__: OK, what you have there is a Kernel Panic, resulting in a CPU status dump and stack-trace. I see "attempt to kill init" which suggests you got a shell prompt and typed "exit" or pressed Ctrl+D. Otherwise, the init shell (/bin/bash) crashed for some weird reason
[22:48] <jhutchins> TJ-: kernel panic will attempt to kill init as well.
[22:48] <prohobo> TJ-: is this channel's designated badass
[22:49] <TJ-> Pat__: My bet will be you didn't put "init=/bin/bash" right at the end of the "linux ..." line, which would end up passing kernel parameters to bash, which would confuse it, causing that kind of failure
[22:49] <TJ-> jhutchins: yeah, but the screenshot shows bash reporting its usage info just ahead of the panic
[22:50] <sajan> wafflejock,
[22:50] <TJ-> oops, Pat__ lost it again
[22:52] <sveinse> What happens after you log in in lightdm? What scripts are executed?
[22:54] <TJ-> sveinse: greeter hands over to the session, which fires up scripts in "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/"
[22:55] <purr_> hi, can I get some help with libvlccore7 and vlc-data here or should I go else where?
[22:56] <purr_> it is just about installing libvlccore7...
[22:56] <purr_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlccore7 : Depends: vlc-data (= 2.1.5+ppa1) but 2.2.0+ppa2.1 is to be installed
[22:56] <purr_> I am not sure what to do
[22:57] <Pat__> back again
[22:58] <sveinse> Anyone know how to debug when my unity desktop does not appear after lightdm login. Xorg seems to be alive and well
[22:58] <Pat__> did i miss any more help?
[23:01] <purr_> anyone?
[23:04] <sajan> can anyone help me with elementary os linux  here
[23:04] <sajan> ??
[23:06] <kostkon> !elementary | sajan
[23:07] <OerHeks> purr_, did you perform sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before trying to do what you just tried?
[23:08] <sveinse> Is is possible to select which libglx.so Xorg is picking based on which driver Xorg is using?
[23:09] <rolleiflex> hey everyone, I had a quick question to ask. I'm a developer building ubuntu / debian version of the app and I was wondering about the way most people
[23:09] <rolleiflex> install the applications.
[23:09] <rolleiflex> I'm familiar to mac and windows, but not debian distros
[23:09] <rolleiflex> how do normal people (not apt-get install.. people) install applications on linux?
[23:09] <Pat__> is eeee there?
[23:09] <kostkon> rolleiflex, using the software centre, using ppas or just .debs
[23:10] <rolleiflex> kostkon: software centre is an app store, I believe, is that correct
[23:10] <rolleiflex> so I would have to apply
[23:10] <kostkon> rolleiflex, yes to both
[23:10] <rolleiflex> the app in question is aether: www.getaether.net, open source, freeware distributed network
[23:10] <rolleiflex> I'm planning to release a binary, no ppas, no dependencies etc
[23:11] <kostkon> rolleiflex, for ubuntu users a .deb file would be much easier
[23:11] <rolleiflex> kostkon: I see, thanks for the lead, i'll research this
[23:11] <kostkon> !packaging
[23:11] <rolleiflex> is there interop between ubuntu and debian?
[23:12] <rolleiflex> whoa, thanks!
[23:12] <kostkon> rolleiflex, np
[23:12] <rolleiflex> I don't know the state of the desktop @ linux, any idea for which distros I should package this?
[23:12] <rolleiflex> It seems that ubuntu is the leader, then debian
[23:13] <kostkon> rolleiflex, ubuntu and fedora that would be the minimum and probably a tar.gziped binary for the rest
[23:13] <rolleiflex> I see
[23:13] <rolleiflex> I have the binary already. I'm planning to supply app icon, .desktop file etc. for ubuntu, then I'l look into fedora. that might also go into the binary bin though
[23:14] <rolleiflex> thank you
[23:14] <kostkon> rolleiflex, some big players only support ubuntu though, like e.g. steam and gog
[23:14] <rolleiflex> kostkon: I see. Is that acceptable?
[23:14] <pestboy> I need someone with teamviewer to help me follow this guide:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383708 I have done everything til "Then at the top of your screen, go to System/Administration/Windows Wireless Drivers (install it if you don't have it)." Its not hard but i'm a noob at linux at the moment.
[23:14] <kostkon> rolleiflex, i don't care about it personally, users of other distros might complain
[23:15] <rolleiflex> kostkon: well they should either get more popular or learn to compile their own stuff...
[23:15] <kostkon> rolleiflex, i guess :P
[23:15] <rolleiflex> haha, thanks
[23:15] <rolleiflex> appreciate the help
[23:15] <kostkon> rolleiflex, no prob
[23:17] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> Is there some way to repair or reset my cfg80211
[23:18] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> I think my broadcom sta install screwed it up
[23:19] <aantoon> jhutchins thanks for your time
[23:20] <hrphaestus_rg|wb> Anybody?
[23:21] <sveinse> As soon as I uninstall the nvidia drivers, unity starts normally in my VM. It is not libglx.so, it is (apparently) not the xorg config. What else is there?
[23:22] <sveinse> Ok, let me flip the question: How can I start up X with unity from my console without lightdm?
[23:22] <Pat__> my new ubuntu 14.04 install didn't and now won't boot and i can't access my data...not impressed.
[23:25] <Guest62027> guys i am trying to mount sda to update-grup since i get back my hdd to the laptop from a live cd but do not allow me to mount it any idea?
[23:25] <AlexPortable> Is there a theme for Ubuntu to make everything flat?
[23:25] <AlexPortable> Like android L
[23:26] <jorge> I am receiving the following error in virt-manager http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VLtTujfj
[23:27] <sveinse> Nobody here know how to start X with unity manually?
[23:27] <OerHeks> maybe @ gnome-look.org AlexPortable
[23:27] <OerHeks> !themes
[23:28] <Beldar> !grub | Guest62027
[23:28] <pot-deb> Hi, I'm looking for some help with GRUB2. I want to stop it booting to a menu of different Oses every time. Have tried editting etc/default/grub and running grub-update but it changes nothing. anyone help?
[23:29] <Guest62027> negative i was fixing my laptop until then i was using the ssd on usb boot on the main computer to keep using ubuntu no problems there but when i put it on the fixed laptop atain it recognized on the bios but do not want to boot for some strange reason
[23:31] <Guest62027> i think i found the problem  i tought it was sda but down says also sda1 :S
[23:31] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: well how is it called
[23:31] <AlexPortable> because those websites only list themes, but when i want to search on that website i still have to find out how it's called
[23:36] <rolleiflex> when building a deb package, do I need to specify where this package gets installed?
[23:36] <rolleiflex> I'm fairly confused about linux, or how these things are 'installed' to a system :(
[23:38] <purr_> Yes, my system is fully updated and upgraded
[23:38] <purr_> I think maybe, not sure though. that they went with libvlccore8 and dropped libvlccore7
[23:39] <purr_> but the problem is that phonon-backend-vlc is dependent on libvlccore7
[23:39] <OerHeks> purr_, what ppa?
[23:39] <purr_> good question...
[23:40] <purr_> is not vlc in the ubuntu rep?
[23:40] <purr_> sorry
[23:40] <purr_> ahah
[23:40] <purr_> oh, nevermind, i typed that right, I thought I put ubuntu in place of vlc... but I did type that right so I am not sorry
[23:41] <OerHeks> purr_, vlc is, but those errors give a ppa notice
[23:41] <purr_> http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu
[23:41] <purr_> I believe that would be the one
[23:42] <purr_> so this is not a thing for ubuntu support, is it?
[23:42] <OerHeks> daily & stable, grinn
[23:42] <OerHeks> well, not really, as you need to contact that ppa owner to file a bug complaint
[23:43] <purr_> humm, I see
[23:44] <OerHeks> next ubuntu utopic is on 2.2.0 ..
[23:45] <Guest77226> hello,i have ubuntu 14.04 64bit installed with the gnome desktop environment but i cant get compiz effects to work..any suggestions?ty
[23:47] <purr_> I wish I knew how to submit bug reports...
[23:48] <kernix> hey all
[23:49] <Guest77226> hi
[23:50] <AlexPortable> Is there a theme for Ubuntu to make everything flat? Like android L
[23:51] <sveinse> Is there an easy way to alter which alternative is being used by /etc/alternatives? I'm going to alter between two alternatives quite regularely
[23:51] <_josh> does anybody know how to write a C program with readline in ubuntu? I've installed libreadline-dev, included the right files, and used -lreadline, but it still says "undefined reference to readline"