[07:43] <graft> yeah... that just means it's on the PCI bus... doesn't mean the appropriate kernel module finds it
[07:43] <tech9iner> k trappist .. sorry.. ups at door ;] .. anyhoo.. running ls -l /dev/dsp now
[07:43] <kkathman> sudo /etc/init.d/ifupdown   and inetd  restart all work properly
[07:44] <graft> what's ifconfig -a tell you?
[07:44] <graft> err... what do you mean "all work properly"?
[07:44] <tech9iner> ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[07:44] <kkathman> graft - eth0 shows a haw addr, but no IP
[07:44] <tech9iner> hmmm.. strange days trappist ...
[07:45] <kkathman> there is a sit0 there now that wasnt there before
[07:45] <tech9iner> never even installed any distro b4 that removed the standard dev/dsp .. wierd no doubt ;]
[07:46] <kkathman> graft:   what I mean by that those processes were ok...was that they return [ok]
[07:46] <trappist> tech9iner: there's no standard /dev/dsp being removed - it doesn't exist until the proper drivers are loaded for an existing sound card
[07:46] <mwe> tech9iner: missing /dev/dsp probably means the sound driver is not loaded
[07:46] <kkathman> graft:  I now have 3 entries there:  eth0, lo, and sit0  (dont remember the sit0 before)
[07:46] <trappist> tech9iner: modprobe -r your sound card drivers, re-modprobe them, and check dmesg for any errors
[07:46] <graft> kkathman: is the eth0 address the same as the one for your card in lspci?
[07:47] <kkathman> graft there is no eth0 IP address
[07:47] <kkathman> graft you mean the HWaddr ??
[07:47] <graft> yeah, the HWaddr
[07:48] <kkathman> graft lspci doesnt show me any HW address that I can see
[07:48] <tech9iner> k trappist .. modprobe cli'z now..
[07:49] <graft> err... yeah that's right, sorry...
[07:49] <kkathman> graft well I say that...the Ethernet line is preceded by 0000:00:12.0
[07:49] <tech9iner> assuming here trappist mwe that syntax = 'modprobe -r snd-ympci' the 'modprobe snd-ympci'.. ?.. aye please?.. [quite buggered n gui dependent foo here mates ;] ] here ;] ]
[07:49] <tech9iner> the/then
[07:49] <jawshoewah> fbconfigs???
[07:50] <trappist> tech9iner: yes
[07:50] <tech9iner> tanx chum
[07:50] <bsn_ua> hello everybody)
[07:50] <trappist> tech9iner: preceded by 'sudo' so it will run as root
[07:50] <davix> http://www.pwned.nl/ayb/
[07:50] <kkathman> graft I tried the sudo network-admin... it shows that the eth0 is active, and I was able to deactivate and reactivate
[07:50] <bsn_ua> i have a little question
[07:50] <graft> kkathman: yeah, that's just the bus line... you're right, lspci doesn't tell you the mac address.. my memory was bad
[07:50] <tech9iner> aye.. actually had that in mind 2 my rare credit lol
[07:50] <mwe> kkathman: did you try sudo dhclient eth0?
[07:51] <kkathman> mwe  yes... the result is that there is no DHCPDISCOVERY... and no leases - all sleeping
[07:51] <yggdrasil_> Awesome guys
[07:51] <yggdrasil_> ive got linux installed
[07:51] <yggdrasil_> what do i do now
[07:51] <nalioth> yggdrasil_: enjoy the internet with no thought of viruses or trojans
[07:52] <graft> kkathman: does it do DHCPREQUESTs?
[07:52] <trappist> tech9iner: bbiaf, lunch
[07:52] <graft> i mean wtf is it doing?
[07:53] <tech9iner> tanx trappist 4 headsup guv.. enjoy ye meal mate
[07:53] <yggdrasil_> is that it ?!!
[07:53] <graft> yggdrasil_: play galaga
[07:53] <yggdrasil_> oooh now your talking
[07:53] <bsn_ua> where can i find package pkg-config?
[07:53] <yggdrasil_> actualy that xsabre thing is pretty cool
[07:53] <graft> also get snes9x!
[07:53] <tech9iner> PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:09.0 (0000 -> 0003)    ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:09.0[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11    codec_ready: codec 0 is not ready [0x801a]     Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -5
[07:53] <kkathman> graft  it reports first that sit0 - unknown hardware address type 776 (twice)  then does only DHCPDISCOVERs on eth0  no DHCPOFFERS received No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[07:54] <mwe> kkathman: I don't know. can you ping the router?
[07:54] <yggdrasil_> will this linux help me impress the womens ?
[07:54] <tech9iner> hmmm.. dmesg snd ref bit interesting..
[07:54] <kkathman> mwe no - it says Network is unreachable
[07:54] <graft> ergh... kkathman, did you build your own kernel?
[07:54] <mwe> kkathman: are the cables plugged in? :)
[07:54] <kkathman> graft no --- all I did was install the updates to breezy for today
[07:54] <kkathman> thats it
[07:55] <kkathman> then rebooted
[07:55] <mwe> kkathman: breezy?
[07:55] <kkathman> mwe yes breezy
[07:55] <decaf> anyone has a via km266? or tries to use usb mouse with via8233 south chip?
[07:55] <mwe> oh yeah you said so
[07:55] <tech9iner> yggdrasil_ of course it helps w womens!! ;] ] ... please review http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf rofl
[07:55] <graft> yggdrasil_ - if you hang around MIT, maybe
[07:56] <mwe> kkathman: what updates did it install?
[07:56] <mwe> kkathman: new kernel or what?
[07:56] <graft> must have done something
[07:56] <graft> that sit0 thing, btw, is some ipv6-related thing
[07:56] <graft> you almost definitely don't want it
[07:56] <tech9iner> georgeous femme bots an all yggdrasil_ rofl
[07:57] <yggdrasil_> hahha
[07:57] <kkathman> graft I imagine I dont
[07:57] <yggdrasil_> yall are a group of good guys
[07:57] <graft> yggdrasil_, who says we're all guys?
[07:57] <Pygi> seveas: ping
[07:57] <kkathman> aha
[07:57] <yggdrasil_> a thousand pardons miss
[07:57] <graft> well, i'm a guy, i'm just saying..
[07:58] <Seveas> Pygi, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[07:58] <Pygi> seveas: that whitespace thingy is erghhhh...
[07:58] <yggdrasil_> ohaha
[07:58] <kkathman> graft well I went to network-admin  and set it to static - and that works fine
[07:58] <yggdrasil_> ok now im confused
[07:58] <graft> guhuh?
[07:58] <Seveas> Pygi, :D
[07:58] <graft> okay that's fucking wierd
[07:59] <gorski> how to restart apache2?
[07:59] <graft> kkathman: what modules have oyu got loaded?
[07:59] <mwe> gorski: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:00] <kkathman> graft:  well quite a few Im sure
[08:00] <gorski> command not found?
[08:00] <mwe> what's a teql interface?
[08:00] <mimi> uy
[08:00] <mwe> ifconfig -a shows teql1
[08:00] <Pygi> seveas: and this .... Brainfuck .... huh, I shall not even comment
[08:00] <graft> kkathman: you oughta find whatever module inserts sit0 and kill it
[08:00] <kkathman> graft:  interesting that network-admin was able to setup that eth0 for static
[08:00] <graft> yeah, that is interesting, and annoying
[08:00] <Seveas> Pygi, it's all just turing machines :)
[08:01] <kkathman> graft would that be in the /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:01] <tech9iner> > codec_ready: codec 0 is not ready [0x801a]      Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -5
[08:01] <tech9iner> k.. ran modprobe -r snd-ymfpci and then reloaded module.. then dmesg's last lines include
[08:01] <tech9iner> above that is
[08:01] <EdgeLnx> Hi guys
[08:01] <gorski> please?
[08:01] <graft> no no
[08:01] <kkathman> graft  nope it isnt in that file
[08:01] <tech9iner>  /me is still gettn used to new chat client ;]
[08:01] <EdgeLnx> Does anyone know how I could update my Firefox under Ubuntu 5.10? plz
[08:01] <graft> kkathman you have to get it out of the kernel
[08:02] <jordi_> hello, during kubuntu install on an amd64 i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem
[08:02] <tech9iner> !ftp
[08:02] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[08:02] <mwe> !tell EdgeLnx about ff1.5
[08:02] <gorski> how to restart apache2?
[08:02] <tech9iner> !ftp-install
[08:02] <mwe> gorski: I told you
[08:02] <graft> and make sure you're not aliasing eth0 in /etc/modules.conf and such
[08:02] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, tech9iner
[08:02] <mwe> gorski: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:02] <EdgeLnx> Thanx mwe
[08:02] <kkathman> graft let me check rc3d
[08:02] <kkathman> errr.. sorry rc2d
[08:02] <tech9iner> !ftp install
[08:02] <ubotu> tech9iner: Are you smoking crack?
[08:03] <gorski> ok, sorry
[08:03] <gorski> tnx
[08:03] <graft> check for eth0 in /etc/modules.conf
[08:03] <tech9iner> k.. so mates.. is there ftp installs available for kubuntu please?
[08:03] <insomnd> how can i find the hostname of an IP address?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tech9iner about install
[08:03] <tech9iner> tanx gnomefreak ;] ]
[08:03] <gnomefreak> yw
[08:03] <Pygi> freaky: Have you wrote it?
[08:03] <mwe> modules.conf? I don't have that file on my machine
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Insidious, whois <ip address>
[08:04] <gnomefreak> Pygi, yes and i think i oh damn
[08:04] <gaertner> jemand von den foren admins da ? user nalfein kann nicht posten ...
[08:04] <gnomefreak> sorry i forgot to send it :(
[08:04] <kkathman> graft modules   or modules.conf?
[08:04] <cantspeakslowly> Hi, I'm looking to set up a network of computers running ubuntu that share a common set of user accounts (university computer lab style.) I don't want thin clients -- the individual computers can handle the OS, but I do need a users desktop environment and home directory to be consistent regardless of which computer they log in to. Can anybody give me some help on where to start looking for this  kind of information?
[08:04] <Pygi> freaky: ah, can you send now?
[08:04] <Pygi> cant: Use NIS
[08:04] <gorski> how to correctly configure MySQL server's socket?
[08:04] <yosef> Can someone help me understand where mt cd drives are? how are cd drives mounted in linux?
[08:04] <Pygi> cant: or NIS+
[08:05] <kkathman> graft  there is not a modules.conf in /etc/
[08:05] <graft> kkathman: err first do lsmod and see if you have an ipv6 module loading
[08:05] <soundray> insomnd, man host, man dig
[08:05] <kkathman> graft yes I do
[08:05] <gnomefreak> im sending it now
[08:05] <Pygi> freaky: kk
[08:05] <gnomefreak> wati error
[08:05] <kkathman> ipv6 is in the lsmod list
[08:06] <graft> kkathman: rmmod that shit
[08:06] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: you _need_ a common server for that. /home should be on a shared drive
[08:06] <Keiser> Anybody here have any experience with Breezy on the Sparc platform?
[08:06] <knewt> i'm trying to install breezy, but base-config is failing during the first boot with this error in the log: libesd-alsa0: Conflicts: libesd0 but 0.2.36-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:06] <kkathman> graft  just rmmod ipv6 ??
[08:06] <knewt> any ideas?
[08:06] <graft> yeh
[08:06] <graft> then do sudo dhclient eth0
[08:06] <jordi_> hello, during (k)ubuntu install on an amd64 system, i tried reiserfs and ext3 filesystems, i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem
[08:06] <gorski> how to configure MySQL server's socket?
[08:06] <kkathman> aha... graft - says its in use :)
[08:06] <Blippe> is there any difference between the server install on kubuntu and ubuntu?
[08:07] <graft> goo! mother of pearl
[08:07] <Pygi> blippe: no
[08:07] <mwe> gorski: configure it's socket?
[08:07] <soundray> jordi_, is this error associated with a failure, or is it just a warning?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Pygi, its still erroring might have to wait
[08:07] <Blippe> thanks Pygi
[08:07] <mwe> gorski: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:07] <goo> graft: uh, sorry?
[08:07] <Pygi> freaky: huh, what kind of error?
[08:07] <jordi_> a warning, but when it can't copy files
[08:07] <graft> hehe... err, sorry, goo
[08:07] <gnomefreak> 4.3.0 mail server rejected it
[08:07] <graft> i was just cursing
[08:07] <jordi_> a failure is coming
[08:08] <wicht1> kann ich mit gnome eigentlich auch transparenz machen?
[08:08] <graft> kkathman: well, you have to get that ipv6 out of there somehow
[08:08] <soundray> !de
[08:08] <mwe> !de
[08:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:08] <wicht1> also bei fenstern
[08:08] <graft> you say you don't have an /etc/modules.conf?
[08:08] <omer> Hello
[08:08] <graft> what about an /etc/modules?
[08:08] <gorski> configuring mythtv, i am in firefox now on localhost phpmyadmin
[08:08] <kkathman> graft I didnt have an /etc/modules.conf either
[08:08] <graft> err... well try /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:08] <soundray> jordi_, I'm not sure I understand. What is the problem you're trying to solve right now?
[08:08] <Zerlinna> #fedora
[08:08] <Zerlinna> ups
[08:09] <gorski> how to configure mysql socket?
[08:09] <elvin> Hey
[08:09] <omer> I have header files just for 2.6.12-9-386 when my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386. How I fix it?
[08:09] <mwe> gorski: configure it's socket?
[08:09] <mwe> gorski: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:09] <jordi_> soundray my problem is that i cant install on my partition and this above is the only errormsg
[08:09] <mwe> gorski: IIRC I already asked that
[08:09] <gorski> yes, but how?
[08:10] <cantspeakslowly> mwe: I assume I'll need one server for data storage, but all the stuff I'm finding on thin clients has the server doing all the processing, which seems pointless if the clients  have enough power... any ideas on howtos or similar for getting my head around the problem?
[08:10] <gorski> command, please!
[08:10] <mwe> gorski: please tell me what exactly your trying to do
[08:10] <gorski> i want to set the password for mysql
[08:10] <elvin> Ive just started linux for the first time and Im looking for a website with lots of applications for linux to install
[08:10] <soundray> jordi_, did you format the partition as part of the install?
[08:10] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: just mount /home as a nfs share on the machines
[08:10] <IAmAI> Hello.
[08:10] <knewt> grr. this is annoying
[08:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell elvin about synaptic
[08:11] <cantspeakslowly> Pygi: any particuarly good resources for getting started with NIS/NIS+ ?
[08:11] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: at least that's my advice
[08:11] <Pygi> cant: yes, just a sec pls, ok?
[08:11] <cantspeakslowly> mwe: how about login info (/etc/passwd) that should be shared ?
[08:11] <mwe> gorski: yes
[08:11] <elvin> thanks
[08:11] <jordi_> soundray i tried both. once i format it myself with fdisk on gentoo, and i tried to let kubuntu format it
[08:11] <mwe> gorski: you don't need to confuse socket issues into that
[08:11] <IAmAI> Could anyone help me install ndiswrapper?
[08:12] <graft> kkathman: what kernel do you have installed anyway?
[08:12] <gorski> i have problem: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[08:12] <graft> seems really weird that this module would be loading...
[08:12] <ITSa341> elvin  look here also http://directory.fsf.org/
[08:12] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: I don't remember how to do that properly
[08:13] <Pygi> cant: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/index.html
[08:13] <gk1980> Hey, does anyone here have experience with FreeNX on ubuntu?
[08:13] <kitty_> can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:13] <ompaul> ?ama? whatever you have around your name I can't read
[08:13] <_jason> ubotu, tell elvin about repos
[08:13] <jordi_> soundray any idea?
[08:13] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: you're obviously need to centralize the login somehow
[08:13] <soundray> jordi_, not sure...
[08:13] <toggleswitch> elvin: see the ubuntu help  icon on your top bar. Go for the ubuntu starter guide. Lots of stuff there.
[08:13] <Pygi> mwe: well NIS is used for that....
[08:13] <_jason> gk1980, probably a lot of people, do you have a particular question?
[08:13] <soundray> jordi_, at what stage do you get the error?
[08:14] <Pygi> cantspeakslowly:
[08:14] <Pygi> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/index.html
[08:14] <jordi_> soundray at the beginning, "formating the partition"
[08:14] <ompaul> IAmAI, ahh it was the letter I heh the ndiswrapper page is very specific about what to do to get it working
[08:14] <Storkme> hmm, i can't get any sound on my pc
[08:14] <kitty_> can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:14] <cantspeakslowly> thx Pygi, mwe
[08:14] <CarinArr> Storkme, ouch.. heh.. did it use to work but doesn't anymore?;)
[08:14] <IAmAI> ompaul: This one? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[08:15] <ompaul> IAmAI, no
[08:15] <Pygi> cantspeakslowly: yw
[08:15] <Storkme> CarinArr, i think it works in the game, let me test
[08:15] <ompaul> !tell IAmAI about ndiswrapper
[08:15] <gk1980> _jason, I use freeNX client from a WindowsXP box to a xubuntu box running latest FreeNX server. Is there anyway to control the size of the actual desktop size? Changing the size of the screen in the client (even to full-screen) doesn't seem to help and I'm stuck with a small desktop with lots of black area surrounding it.
[08:15] <ompaul> IAmAI, I got the bot to send you a msg it is the "ubuntu" way
[08:15] <soundray> jordi_, it doesn't really make sense to me. Sorry.
[08:15] <IAmAI> ompaul: Thanks. I'll have a look at that.
[08:16] <ompaul> IAmAI, they should be the same but I know the ubuntu page works for lots of people
[08:16] <jordi_> ok thanks
[08:16] <knewt> no-one has any ideas to help me?
[08:16] <bsn_ua> where can i find gtk-config for download????
[08:16] <soundray> jordi_, small hint: ompaul may be your man...
[08:16] <Storkme> CarinArr, nothing has sound - XMMS tells me to check that "MY soundcard is configured properly, there are no audio devices blocking the output", etc
[08:16] <yggdrasil_> i think my linux got microsft in it
[08:16] <ompaul> soundray, whaaaaa
[08:16] <kitty_>  can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:16] <g3ff> hi
[08:16] <ompaul> soundray, I see - okay
[08:16] <CarinArr> Storkme, what soundcard do you have?
[08:16] <thegladiator> 85 seconds is my boot time , whats yours ?
[08:17] <soundray> Sorry ompaul, I know you're busy already.
[08:17] <thegladiator> isnt 85 seconds too long for an OS ?
[08:17] <bsn_ua> where can i find gtk-config for download????
[08:17] <Storkme> CarinArr, a97 realtek audoi built into my mobo
[08:17] <Storkme> CarinArr, but it worked fine a few minutes ago
[08:17] <Pygi> seveas: tried that flashy thingy?
[08:17] <ompaul> soundray, s/he quit
[08:17] <CarinArr> ack.. what have you changed in the last few minutes?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i sent it i have to go for now ill be back though
[08:17] <_jason> gk1980, I haven't had that problem so i am just guessing here, but can you change the resolution on the ubuntu box?
[08:18] <Seveas> Pygi, gnash you mean?
[08:18] <Pygi> seveas: yes
[08:18] <Pygi> freaky: k, thanks
[08:18] <thegladiator> whats the boot time you guys get ?
[08:18] <kitty_>  please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:18] <Seveas> Pygi, not yet, I'm working at 10 (yes, 10) things simultaneously now
[08:18] <CarinArr> Storkme, just to rule it out.. can you start alsamixer and make sure you haven't managed to mute it somehow?
[08:18] <Pygi> Seveas: well, as I said, me too :)
[08:18] <kkathman> graft  one answer here is to do an rmmod --force ipv6   but I really hate doing forces :)
[08:18] <soundray> ompaul, too bad for h{im|er}
[08:18] <CarinArr> i've muted mine before unknowingly.. (still haven't managed to figure out what i do to mute it)
[08:18] <Storkme> CarinArr, it's not muted :)
[08:18] <Pygi> Seveas: k, just go work then.... I have to as well :P
[08:18] <ompaul> soundray, :)
[08:18] <gk1980> _jason, I can, however its a laptop and I do want to use it without FreeNX. Changing the resolution back and forth doesn't seem to way to go. Anyhow, using X over XDMCP works fine. Full screen and all.
[08:19] <ompaul> thegladiator, what do you mean?
[08:19] <thegladiator> ompaul, boot time , the time taken to boot into ubuntu
[08:19] <CarinArr> Storkme, and you haven't changed anything knowingly since the sound was last working?
[08:19] <kitty_> please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:19] <thegladiator> mine is 85 seconds , wondering if its a good speed
[08:19] <globe> How do I set the active partition on my hard drive manually?
[08:20] <CarinArr> ack.. bbias
[08:20] <Blippe> 15-20 seconds thegladiator
[08:20] <thegladiator> really BLIPE ?
[08:20] <soundray> thegladiator, that is a reasonable time.
[08:20] <ompaul> thegladiator, that depends on hardware, if a partition needs to be fscked, so I just let it happen and grab a glass of water between when I turn it on an sit down
[08:20] <thegladiator> Blippe, you have an amazing speed then
[08:21] <Blippe> it's tweaked...
[08:21] <soundray> Blippe, that's with a bit of fine-tuning isn't it.
[08:21] <soundray> Blippe, LinuxBIOS?
[08:21] <thegladiator> hmm...like whats the tweak  ? diabiling few many things ?
[08:22] <Storkme> CarinArr, nope :\
[08:22] <thegladiator> i'd love to get it down to 30-40 seconds . I have an AMD Sempron 2400 , but 256 RAM only . Will 512 RAM make any considerable difference ?
[08:22] <Storkme> CarinArr, is it just a random problem that i could solve with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:22] <ITSa341> I have a p4 running at 4.5ghz and can't boot in 20 seconds with a GB ram.
[08:22] <soundray> thegladiator, not on boot.
[08:22] <Storkme> ITSa341, intels suck ;)
[08:23] <thegladiator> aaah. so it sems mine is a bit slow
[08:23] <Blippe> I don't know, I didn't do it...
[08:23] <federica> hi
[08:23] <ompaul> I used to have a 486 33dx boot FreeBSD in 40 seconds and at 1:05 the X login screen was there - now that was hacked
[08:23] <soundray> thegladiator, do you measure from power up or from grub loading the kernel?
[08:23] <thegladiator> power up . after the grub is loaded
[08:23] <Blippe> actually i wouldn't call it tweaked, i would call it not working
[08:23] <thegladiator> when the ubuntu splash comes
[08:24] <thegladiator> is there any tweak guides available ?
[08:24] <soundray> All this booting cr*p would be unnecessary if there was a decent static RAM technology.
[08:24] <thegladiator> soundray, :)
[08:24] <thegladiator> soundray, whats your time ?
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> good night people
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> hey thegladiator
[08:25] <thegladiator> eevn mobile OS takes around 5 seconds to load
[08:25] <ITSa341> Storkme   I agree my Athlon 3000+ outperforms my P4 3.0 overclocked to 4.5ghz at -40f. The athlon is stock speeds.
[08:25] <soundray> thegladiator, uptime: 40 days... can't remember :)
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> what mobile os?
[08:25] <thegladiator> s_spiff{asleep}, hey :) sleep well :)
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> hehe
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> not sleeping re..
[08:25] <thegladiator> mobile OS ...yaar , in the normal mobiles we have OS
[08:25] <soundray> thegladiator, my laptop takes about 2 minutes, though.
[08:25] <globe> thegladiator, you have to remember that everything that you disable in order to boot faster makes you loose a feature....windows achives a good boot time by doing as little as possible before setting up the GUI
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> have to install azuerus
[08:25] <pirx> is it only for me that it doesnt work to jump between words in the adress bar in firefox with ctrl-arrow?
[08:26] <s_spiff{asleep}> and the download some 'stuff'
[08:26] <thegladiator> he he :)
[08:26] <thegladiator> good
[08:26] <gk1980> Does anyone know when there will be an official FireFox 1.5 package for ubuntu?
[08:26] <elvin> Hey again, are there a way to see NTFS files in ubuntu?
[08:26] <soundray> gk1980, when dapper is out.
[08:26] <thegladiator> ok , so is there somewhere I can remove unwanted things during boot ?
[08:26] <soundray> !firefox1.5
[08:26] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:26] <thegladiator> elvin, yes
[08:26] <ITSa341> bbiab
[08:26] <thegladiator> !ntfs
[08:26] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:26] <s_spiff{asleep}> gk1980, i think i read somewhere there isn't gonna be any package for FF now on
[08:26] <s_spiff{asleep}> but you should read abt it on wiki
[08:26] <thegladiator> elvin, read what ubotu says ^
[08:27] <elvin> thanks
[08:27] <gk1980> ok, thanks...
[08:27] <s_spiff{asleep}> np
[08:27] <brian_> can someone please help me with dual monitors?
[08:27] <brian_> ive bene trying for a while now and i cant find ANY help
[08:27] <thegladiator> so is there something in GUI that can help me configure this bootin ? lik I can remove unwanted things
[08:27] <brian_> all the docs are outdated, irrelevant, or just plain wrong
[08:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff{asleep}, what time you sleep ?
[08:27] <s_spiff{asleep}> brian_, i think there is a thread on the forums abt it
[08:27] <s_spiff{asleep}> check it out
[08:28] <brian_> got a link? because i was searching the forums last nite and found nothing helpful
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> no specific time man...now exams commin up..so will sleep later
[08:28] <thegladiator> s_spiff{asleep}, ah which class ?:) or semester ?
[08:28] <brian_> i dont need an xorg.conf i need someone that can actually explain to me how this stuff works
[08:28] <Blippe> brian_ look for xinerama and X.org !!!
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> brian_, nopes, sorry, i didn't do any reading on it
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> semester 4..
[08:28] <newdle> Err.
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> engg.
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> B.Tech actually
[08:28] <brian_> Blippe: i have been....for days
[08:28] <thegladiator> kool! comp sci ?
[08:28] <newdle> im logged into root and i just typed make, it says command not found.
[08:28] <thegladiator> me too b.tech
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> no Chemistry
[08:29] <newdle> does ubuntu not come default with compiling stuff?
[08:29] <thegladiator> electronix kl...iit ?
[08:29] <brian_> im sitting here with two displays showing the same thing(the left display is missing a cursor), but i cant get anything else to work
[08:29] <thegladiator> iit mum ?
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> Dyes and Intermediates at UDCT
[08:29] <andrewd> http://www.socialstudiesforkids.com/articles/ushistory/13massachusetts.htm
[08:29] <thegladiator> kl
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> no man..UDCT
[08:29] <brian_> anyone know a channel where people would be knowledgeable about dual displays and Xinerama?
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> iit sucks at chem..:P
[08:29] <ompaul> newdle, no do this >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< it will install all you want
[08:29] <thegladiator> hehe :o sure
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> what abt u thegladiator ?
[08:29] <newdle> awesome, thanks paul.
[08:29] <ompaul> np
[08:30] <thegladiator> myself did tronix engg from cochin univ of sci tech :p
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> neat
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> and u're working now?
[08:30] <ompaul> s_spiff{asleep}, please take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be for help :)
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> sorry ompaul .
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> will do that.
[08:30] <brian_> http://www.brianwitha.be/xorg.conf can i PLEASE have some help
[08:30] <thegladiator> hey yes sorry :)
[08:30] <Blippe> brian_ graphics-card?
[08:30] <brian_> 6800 dual-head
[08:30] <trappist> brian_: love the domain
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> some other time thegladiator
[08:31] <brian_> thx
[08:31] <thegladiator> ompaul, so ...how can I remoe unwanted things from boot?
[08:31] <s_spiff{asleep}> have to finish this crap..and sleep!
[08:31] <thegladiator> later s_spiff{asleep}
[08:31] <Blippe> 6800?
[08:31] <s_spiff{asleep}> cya
[08:31] <thegladiator> ciao
[08:31] <brian_> nvidia geforce
[08:31] <newdle> I think this is going to take me a while to get used to, the whole linux thing, but i think it will be easier to do what i want to do.
[08:31] <newdle> mmm, home automation.
[08:31] <Blippe> ah
[08:31] <tech9iner> alas... not 2 be 'korn'fused with 'a l s a' .. downloading kubuntu iso and reinstalling.. hoping sound will be found upon complete ARG! reinstallation vs kubuntu upgraded unbuntu 5.0.4 ;[..
[08:31] <thegladiator> newdle, sure . once your get it done , you'll feel a lot better . thats how linux workds
[08:31] <Blippe> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[08:31] <brian_> with that xorg.conf i have a cloned display(minus cursor on one) but i want to be able to have two seperate screens
[08:31] <newdle> yeah
[08:31] <brian_> Blippe: already been there
[08:31] <ompaul> thegladiator, start by installing bum and be careful what you do :-)
[08:31] <brian_> that info is old
[08:32] <newdle> just gotta figure out why mysql is crapping out, phpgroupware is wierd to install.
[08:32] <thegladiator> yes! bum ok
[08:32] <Blippe> well, it does work!
[08:32] <brian_> not for me..
[08:32] <thegladiator> dont worry I have deleted command.com once in my very OLD DOS systems . so I am used to botching up real hard
[08:32] <Blippe> well, if you got it running, it is probably the serverlayout part that needs tweaking!
[08:33] <globe> thegladiator :-)
[08:33] <ompaul> thegladiator, make sure you have a live cd before you go breaking things
[08:33] <ompaul> and an install one
[08:33] <brian_> how do i make it have two screens and not a cloned one
[08:33] <thegladiator> yes I do . yep
[08:33] <brian_> i have an xorg.conf where i get two distinct gnome desktops, but i cant mouse to the second screen, its like a second pc i cant touch almost
[08:34] <brian_> its really frustrating, why is it soooo hard to setup dual display under linux?
[08:34] <thegladiator> brian_, hold your pateience , you will get help :)
[08:34] <Blippe> paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the "channel"/"private message" i sent you!
[08:34] <brian_> not seeing a pm
[08:34] <ompaul> Blippe, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <ompaul> brian_, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <brian_> for what?
[08:35] <brian_> i already uploaded my xorg.conf
[08:35] <ompaul> ahh
[08:35] <Blippe> ompaul, i didn't tell him to paste it in the channel!
[08:35] <brian_> http://www.brianwitha.be/xorg.conf
[08:35] <trappist> brian_: I have a dual display with separate instances of kde on each screen, but I set it up with ati's fglrxconfig which pretty much did it for me
[08:35] <brian_> im using nvidia see
[08:35] <trappist> brian_: I know nvidia recently released something similar
[08:35] <ompaul> Blippe, I know he said did not see pm :)
[08:35] <tech9iner> brian_: consider linux configs your sacrifice for giving up all those vundebar trojans n spy/malwares n hourly security patches on windBLOWz guv! wink wink
[08:36] <brian_> yeah....ok, whatever
[08:36] <trappist> brian_: if you install the latest driver package from nvidia.com, you'll have a 'nvidia-xconfig' which may simplify things for you
[08:36] <brian_> ok, awesome ill try that
[08:37] <IAmAI> ompaul: Hey, I just found some Linux drivers for my card, when I went looking for Windows ones :P
[08:37] <brian_> brevity is acceptable but your comment lacked substance
[08:37] <ompaul> IAmAI, enjoy
[08:37] <trappist> tech9iner: well, your comment pretty much amounted to "suck it up, whiner"
[08:37] <IAmAI> ompaul: Hopes it's easier :P
[08:38] <brian_> anyway im gonna go try these nvidia drivers and see what i can find, appreciate the help guys ill pry be back :x
[08:38] <tech9iner> trappist: wb chum.. my bad then.. even with the winks at da end eh..
[08:38] <trappist> tech9iner: sometimes not even a smiley can alter the substance of a comment ;)
[08:38] <Sionide> anyone good with hard drives??
[08:38] <Blippe> dammit, i just wiped out my xorg.conf instead...
[08:39] <trappist> Sionide: I can spin them on my finger for an hour at a time
[08:39] <tech9iner> agreed trappist .. point noted.. hence the mea culpas where deemed guv
[08:39] <Sionide> trappist, :D cool
[08:39] <soundray> Is there a proven strategy to track down signal 11 errors?
[08:39] <Blippe> sionide, yeah, they love me until i put them into peices
[08:39] <narles> anyone know if you can add and take off songs from an ipod using rhythmbox... or any program in general?
[08:39] <trappist> soundray: I usually start with strace
[08:39] <tech9iner> given up fwiw trappist on fixing sound.. bout 7 mins from kubuntu iso down.. fresh install seems apropos this juncture mate
[08:39] <Sionide> i just bought a new hard drive, formatted it as ext3, now i can't paste files to it in nautilus - but i can do touch foobar, then pico foobar and edit it without a problem - any ideas why nautilus can't write to it?
[08:40] <trappist> tech9iner: it's pretty much the same distro, but you might get lucky.  your sound card is definitely supposed to work.
[08:40] <soundray> trappist, are signal 11s usually programming errors?
[08:41] <trappist> soundray: erm, if by programming errors you mean the programmer failed to foresee some obscure condition found on your machine, yes.  but I wouldn't call that a programming error.
[08:41] <tech9iner> by the by me new 'buntuMates'.. any CAD/CAM/3d drafters hang round here please?.. as in CAD apps on linux for custruction industry applications please?..
[08:41] <conflikt> could someone help me when i try to start gAIM  i get this gaim: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:42] <Blippe> Sionide, check owner on the dirs on the drive...
[08:42] <xored> !tell xored package
[08:42] <soundray> trappist, so I should go and find a machine to run on that conforms better with the programmer's ideas?
[08:42] <Sionide> ah
[08:42] <trappist> conflikt: try sudo apt-get install libdbus-glib-1-1
[08:42] <Sionide> Blippe, lost+found is owned by root :s
[08:42] <Sionide> can i change that?
[08:42] <trappist> soundray: we don't know what the problem is yet.
[08:42] <Storkme> how on ubuntu can i see how much disk space i have left?
[08:42] <Storkme> from the command line
[08:42] <soundray> trappist, neither do I...
[08:42] <trappist> Storkme: df -h
[08:42] <Knowerrors> Is there a setting to make x.org remember monitor settings?  If I turn on my compute with the monitor off, then turn it on later, Im greeted by only one resolution and refresh rate
[08:42] <sTo0z> Does anyone know an ubuntu command to flush routes?
[08:43] <conflikt> cant find the package
[08:43] <xored> sorry guys, but where to get the current packages ? i want to update udev to a current version
[08:43] <tech9iner> or.. likewise.. any mates here stumbled cross any active CAD / drafting / architecture irc channels ?..
[08:43] <narles> anyone know if you can add and take off songs from an ipod using rhythmbox... or any program in general?
[08:43] <Storkme> wierd
[08:43] <Kremonte> !tell narles about ipod
[08:43] <Storkme> can anyone think of a reason that "scp" would give me "- stalled -" and stop?
[08:43] <Blippe> brian_ start with removing the leftof "Screen 1"
[08:43] <soundray> trappist, I'll talk to the developers of the prog I'm using. It's not really a Ubuntu support issue. Thanks for your hints.
[08:44] <sTo0z> as far as i can tell you can't save the routes so i need to like flush them so i can repopulate with what i want?
[08:44] <trappist> conflikt: what version of ubuntu, and where'd you get gaim?
[08:44] <trappist> Storkme: lost connectivity
[08:45] <Storkme> oh, right
[08:45] <Storkme> that's bad - router problems
[08:45] <conflikt> trappist: 2.0 in a .deb ubuntu 5.04
[08:45] <tech9iner> thanks for the warm hands trappist n mwe ;] ] .. ciao 4 now chums..
[08:45] <tech9iner> tanx all for 'bean' here mateyzzzz.. ;] ]
[08:45] <trappist> conflikt: sounds like the .deb you got was for breezy (or at least would work on breezy)
[08:46] <thefamousnomo> hello people, question re: usb drive mounting...
[08:46] <Storkme> thaks
[08:46] <Storkme> thanks*
[08:46] <iantec> how do i update my firefox to 1.5?
[08:46] <Prozac> How can i setup identd, with a user defined reply ?
[08:46] <trappist> !tell iantec about firefox15
[08:46] <paladinew> ok guys, I need to know how to make a SECURE/ENCRYPTED remote desktop connection from one ubuntu system to another
[08:46] <mwe> !tell iantec about ff1.5
[08:46] <trappist> Prozac: I think that's what pidentd is for
[08:46] <robbster> lo all. I've just installed breezy on my old compaq presario 700.  Everything (so far) has 'just work'ed :) Thanks!
[08:46] <trappist> paladinew: look into freenx
[08:46] <conflikt> trappist: might have been but even when i get the one from the synaptic manager it still gives same error
[08:46] <iantec> thanks
[08:47] <Prozac> yeah ive installed pidentd but i cant figure out how i set the reply
[08:47] <thegladiator> is it okay if I remove GDM ( using boot up manager)  when i am using #kubuntu-dektop package on ubuntu ?
[08:47] <trappist> conflikt: once you install a .deb it appears in synaptic.  it's probably the same package.
[08:47] <thefamousnomo> should i cuddle up a bit before throeing out the questions...?
[08:47] <robbster> !tell robbster about ff1.5
[08:47] <trappist> conflikt: uninstall, grab the .deb for hoary, and install that.
[08:47] <trappist> thefamousnomo: nope
[08:47] <soundray> thegladiator, yes, but make sure you have a replacement (kdm probably).
[08:47] <paladinew> trappist: know where I can find some good info on it ?
[08:48] <thegladiator> thank you . yes it is there
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> @trappist: sound man
[08:48] <trappist> paladinew: google knows all
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> having probs finding anything on this
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> have a 256mb flash drive, mounts off the bat...
[08:48] <mwe> paladinew: freenx.berlios.de
[08:48] <iantec> are there many people here using kde?
[08:48] <thegladiator> and no printer I have , so I can remove HP Linux printing and Imagins system ? also PPP , since I dont use a telephone modem , I use cable modem
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> also a 1gb flash drive, same make, cannot get it to mount...
[08:49] <trappist> iantec: I use kde, but most kde users are in #kubuntu
[08:49] <mwe> iantec: most are in #kubuntu I recon
[08:49] <thegladiator> iantec, there are many actually
[08:49] <trappist> thefamousnomo: any interesting output in dmesg when you insert it?
[08:49] <soundray> thegladiator, don't remove ppp. It doesn't take up too much space, and may come in handy.
[08:49] <thegladiator> yep
[08:49] <thefamousnomo> sorry man, not up on irc ettiquette (or spelling there of!!)
[08:49] <iantec> sorry im new to linux...how do i connect to another channel ?
[08:49] <thegladiator> hplip can be removed yes?
[08:50] <thefamousnomo> hold on my friend...
[08:50] <conflikt> trappist: i fixed but i have to start with sudo ?
[08:50] <thegladiator> iantec, /join #<channel name>
[08:50] <Blippe> iantec "/j #kubuntu"
[08:50] <dannym_> hi
[08:50] <thegladiator> thisn is ubuntu help so stick to ubuntu topics
[08:50] <trappist> conflikt: sorry, I forgot what your problem is.  I hope you're not the gaim guy.
[08:50] <Josh43> quick q; what is the commandline for the gnome system manager?
[08:50] <Blippe> hi
[08:50] <mwe> what's a teql device?
[08:50] <claudiu> hello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing
[08:50] <mwe> ifconfig shows teql1
[08:50] <thefamousnomo> not sure what you mean man, to expand, i am new to ubuntu...
[08:50] <iantec> thnx!! man its really amuzing how innocent you can get when you first try linux:)
[08:50] <mwe> and I have no idea what it is
[08:50] <thegladiator> soundray, if there is no printer , I can safwely remove HP Linux prininting and Image system ? or is it something else ?
[08:50] <conflikt> trappist: that would be me
[08:51] <thefamousnomo> and loving it muchly, considering using as my main os, started as a test you see...
[08:51] <soundray> thegladiator, I think you can.
[08:51] <trappist> thefamousnomo: insert device; run 'dmesg' in a console; look at the last half-dozen or so lines
[08:51] <trappist> conflikt: please don't run gaim as root
[08:51] <thefamousnomo> anyway, all i see is drive unable to mount message
[08:51] <iantec> well....just a thought though....since i really dont know anything about linux would it be better if i try using xandros first before i go ubuntu? because i read from many reviews that xandros is for the total newbie like me
[08:51] <thefamousnomo> will do man!
[08:52] <thegladiator> does anyone know what pupose does HP Linux printing and imaging process does ? is it necessary to have it while booting if you dont have a  printer ? :)
[08:52] <Josh43> iantec, xandros sucks
[08:52] <iantec> lol
[08:52] <trappist> iantec: ubuntu is an excellent newbie distro
[08:52] <trappist> Josh43: don't distro-bash please
[08:52] <mwe> iantec: ubuntu is great for n00bs, I second that
[08:52] <thegladiator> iantec, yes it will be a good idea
[08:52] <thegladiator> i second that XANDROS can be tried before you make a shift to ubuntu .
[08:52] <Josh43> iantec, It /used/ to be a good newbie distro, but that was before ubuntu existed.. ubuntu has been an awesome newbie distro for like 180 months
[08:52] <thegladiator> but make sure you dont get stuck :)
[08:53] <trappist> Josh43: 15 years, eh?
[08:53] <Josh43> Ahem.. 18 months
[08:53] <Josh43> :P
[08:53] <Prozac> does anybody know how to set the user defined reply with pidentd?
[08:53] <claudiu> hello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing
[08:53] <thegladiator> ubuntu has certain defects like mp3 support etc which could be preplexing for a nwebie , i myself felt it . so Xandros wouldnt be bad , ofcourse it has to have these features
[08:53] <thegladiator> just IMHO
[08:54] <lowman62> warm it up?
[08:54] <Josh43> anyone know what the commandline is for the gnome system manager?
[08:54] <thegladiator> gnome-system-manager ?
[08:54] <iantec> well im a real fresh linux user....i think i have the savvy for windows....but since i "think" i know it too well and read so many things about linux i think it is the right os for me...but i find it hard to learn even if i am reading a LOT of things about it...really confusing ....
[08:54] <Josh43> thegladiator, That's what the auto-script is for
[08:54] <thegladiator> probably ?
[08:54] <trappist> Prozac: sorry I meant oidentd
[08:54] <soundray> thegladiator, the defect is in the MP3 licensing though, not in Ubuntu.
[08:54] <Prozac> oh
[08:54] <Prozac> ill try to google that then :)
[08:54] <mwe> soundray: yeah :)
[08:54] <thegladiator> soundray, yes agree i shud have said "defect" :)
[08:55] <Josh43> gnome-system-monitor ; perfect - your hint and tab-completion, thanks :)
[08:55] <thegladiator> welcome :)
[08:55] <claudiu> "Setting up gstreamer0.8-vorbis" takes forever
[08:55] <Blippe> iantec, just install ubuntu, and screw around with it, it is the best way to learn!
[08:55] <claudiu> could anyone help me please ?
[08:55] <thegladiator> !anyone
[08:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:56] <soundray> thegladiator, he has asked his question.
[08:56] <Blippe> claudiu, define "forever"...
[08:56] <eSPete> how do i boot the vol in general?
[08:56] <iantec> yep im using it now....jsut isntalled the kde desktop.:) i find it more friendly than the gnome...well just an opinion
[08:56] <mwe> man, performanc or ssh X forwarding sucks
[08:56] <Josh43> mwe, Try nxserver
[08:56] <trappist> mwe: it doesn't have to
[08:56] <mwe> trappist: but it does here though
[08:57] <brian_> ok, need help again.........I cannot get the nvidia driver to install, the script tells me that i have nvidiafb enabled for my kernel......I've removed all nvidia kernel and glx stuff but im still getting this error, how do i disable this? Do i HAVE to recompile my kernel or can i apt-get one without this nvidiafb business?
[08:57] <trappist> mwe: try with -c blowfish
[08:57] <Josh43> mwe, Instructions are in the forums, and the benefit is that it complresses the x-session before sending it.. I was pleasantly surprised
[08:57] <mwe> trappist: I'll try it, thanks for the tip
[08:57] <claudiu> "Setting up gstreamer0.8-vorbis" takes forever like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6908
[08:57] <trappist> mwe: blowfish is plenty secure and much faster than the default
[08:57] <claudiu> Blippe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6908
[08:57] <mwe> trappist: ok
[08:58] <thegladiator> let me check if the boot speed has increasde brb
[08:58] <student> how do I get root access and make the user a regular user?
[08:58] <iantec> anyways.... is there anyone here folding?
[08:58] <paladinew> how do I edit my /etc/apt/sources.list?  it only allows me read access
[08:58] <trappist> student: huh?
[08:58] <mwe> iantec: use sudo
[08:58] <claudiu> Blippe: i am using kde and wanted to install gstreamer, maybe i shouldn't
[08:58] <brian_> How do i get a kernel without nvidiafb support?
[08:58] <mwe> !tell iantec about rootsudo
[08:58] <Josh43> iantec, commandline: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:58] <trappist> paladinew: sudo <editor> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:59] <student> trappist:  I have no access to root account.  I want to get access to the root account, and make it so that the regular user cannot behave like an administrator.
[08:59] <Blippe> claudio, i used gstreamer on kde...
[08:59] <mwe> student: use sudo -i when you need a root prompt
[08:59] <trappist> student: that's accomplised via sudo - sudo <command> to execute just that command as root
[08:59] <trappist> *accomplished
[08:59] <soundray> student, glad you got this far. Set up an additional user if you need a non-privileged one.
[08:59] <thefamousnomo_> sorry man, lost it there. demsg not found!!
[08:59] <claudiu> Blippe: what is the use of gstreamer on kde really ?
[08:59] <mwe> student: regular users don't have root access
[08:59] <brian_> dmesg, not demsg
[09:00] <iantec> josh43 what wiull that command do? i typed it in the terminal all it did was to produce another line (empty)
[09:00] <mwe> student: only users in the admin group can use sudo by default
[09:00] <Blippe> claudio, i really don't know!
[09:00] <student> mwe:  oh, admin group huh?
[09:00] <mwe> student: yeah
[09:00] <dannym_> hola!
[09:00] <jorgeu> hi, i have problems installing nvidia drivers. Can anyone help?
[09:00] <trappist> student: sudo visudo to see the current sudo config
[09:00] <brian_> jorgeu: join the club man
[09:00] <dannym_> lol
[09:00] <mwe> student: users who a member of the admin group
[09:00] <brian_> i have the same problem
[09:01] <jorgeu> can't find the precompiled kernel interface
[09:01] <soundray> brian_, jorgeu, have you RTFM?
[09:01] <soundray> !nvidia
[09:01] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:01] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: bash: demsg: command not found
[09:01] <jorgeu> i have installed the kernel headers but no progress
[09:01] <brian_> i cant, because i cant get into X now
[09:01] <brian_> and lynx wont load the nvidia manual proper
[09:01] <mwe> student: setting the root password defeats basic ubuntu security policy
[09:01] <student> oops I should have added a new admin user before disabling the current one
[09:01] <student> mwe: am I screwed?
[09:01] <mwe> student: why?
[09:02] <Blippe> claudiu why don't you apt-get it?
[09:02] <brian_> anyway, I was just asking how i get a kernel without nvidiafb
[09:02] <brian_> because the nvidia driver installer requires it
[09:02] <brian_> its failing now
[09:02] <brian_> i apt-get removed all nvidia stuff, glx and the kernel thing
[09:02] <student> mwe: I removed my user account from the admin group, before adding a new one that belongs to the admin group
[09:02] <brian_> but its still giving me the same error
[09:02] <mwe> student: you can work around it
[09:02] <iantec> anyways...i read that i user account is needed for paly and for work.... what if i started out with a native user account... and now i have a new one for my daily task...how do i get my bookmarks from that other user account that i was using before
[09:02] <student> mwe: howso?
[09:02] <mwe> student: using grub?
[09:03] <student> yes I am
[09:03] <student> this is fresh install of ubuntu
[09:03] <paladinew> I keep getting the folowing error when trying to install FreeNX "   Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:03] <paladinew> "
[09:03] <mwe> student: breezy?
[09:03] <student> mwe: yes
[09:03] <student> mwe: breezy is latest, yes?
[09:03] <thefamousnomo_> hey guys, probs mounting 1gb flash when 256mb of same model mounts off the bat. any ideas????
[09:03] <misiuk> lowman62: are you there?
[09:03] <mwe> student: hilight the entry you usually boot. then press "e" to edit it
[09:04] <monzie> can someone please suggest a cool-looking desktop environment
[09:04] <student> mwe: alright, and then?
[09:04] <monzie> sorry, window manager
[09:04] <mwe> student: then "e" again. go the end of the line and type init=/bin/sh
[09:04] <trappist> thefamousnomo_: it's spelled dmesg
[09:04] <thefamousnomo_> im a twat!
[09:04] <student> mwe: got that, anything else?
[09:04] <mwe> student: that will boot you into a console only root prompt
[09:04] <soundray> monzie, Enlightenment. So cool you can't really use it seriously :)
[09:05] <student> mwe: oh and then just add the user back to admin group
[09:05] <mx-r> hi. could someone help?
[09:05] <mwe> student: then use gpasswd -a <username> admin
[09:05] <trappist> soundray: e17 even more so
[09:05] <student> mwe: thanks
[09:05] <moodog> evening all?
[09:05] <mx-r> just installed ubuntu... boot stops at Starting Hotplug
[09:05] <student> mwe: brb
[09:05] <paladinew> I keep getting the folowing error when trying to install FreeNX "   Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:05] <claudiu> Blippe: i try apt-get something but it keeps complaining about some error, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:05] <soundray> paladinew, are you on Ubuntu?
[09:06] <DRAGON> CIAO
[09:06] <the_eye> gcc-question: how do I get version 3.4.5? the ubuntu i have here has 4.0.1-3 .. i need 3.4.5 .. how do i apt-get old versions of programs? apt-get install gcc-3.4.5 doesn't work ..
[09:06] <paladinew> yes, 5.10
[09:06] <trappist> claudiu: it tells you exactly how to solve the problem man
[09:06] <Knowerrors> I have a problem with my monitor, if its turned off while booting, then turned back on, the resolution and refresh rate are terrible and can't be changed, is there a way to fix this besides always having monitor on?
[09:06] <claudiu> trappist: ok but dpkg hangs forever
[09:06] <claudiu> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6910
[09:06] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: seems ok, but im a dos-to-windows fumbling idiot (see earlier spelling error!)
[09:07] <soundray> paladinew, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org pls.
[09:07] <thefamousnomo_> unknown partition table...?
[09:07] <paladinew> soundray: sure, sec
[09:07] <AskHL> Good evening. I'm trying to get an ssh tunnel running, and it works. But I cannot start up X windows through it. Most of the applications say something along the lines of: "Can't open display". I have done this in Mandrake, but now I use ubuntu. Does anyone have a clue of what might be going on?
[09:07] <thefamousnomo_> message box says *given udi is not a mountable volume*
[09:08] <soundray> AskHL, you need to configure ssh to forward X. Possibly using -X option.
[09:08] <AskHL> Like ssh -X -somethingSomthing ?
[09:08] <thefamousnomo_> im guessing partition issue, though both run on my windows machines no worries. parition size issues...?
[09:08] <AskHL> (where somethingSomething is what I already wrote)
[09:08] <paladinew> soundray: pasted
[09:08] <soundray> AskHL, either that, or edit config files in /etc/ssh/
[09:09] <AskHL> soundray: it works perfectly! Thanks a lot!
[09:09] <the_eye> i found the "transition to gcc-4" page in the wiki .. still: how do I get old gcc installed?
[09:09] <claudiu> can ayone help me with dpkg > jpatrick: i use xine-lib in kaffeine for audio-video
[09:09] <trappist> thefamousnomo_: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/201
[09:09] <gorski> how to uninstall phpmyadmin?
[09:09] <claudiu> can ayone help me with dpkg >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6913
[09:10] <mx-r> gorski - you cannot uninstall php my admin per se... you simply delete the directory
[09:10] <claudiu> pls help me with dpkg >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6913
[09:10] <andrewd> http://encarta.msn.com/map_701514536/Massachusetts.html
[09:10] <akshay> i was doing #apt-get update & i get this error '44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] '
[09:11] <student> mwe:  did not work yet.
[09:11] <gorski> wich one
[09:11] <rayyyys> kernal options?
[09:11] <gorski> ?
[09:11] <rayyyys> brezzy
[09:11] <rayyyys> or horry spose
[09:11] <mwe> student: what happened?
[09:11] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: thank you very much. i am finding terminology / user enviroment a bit difficult to get to grips with, but i WILL persevere. this is the first os ive ever been excited about! (*blush*)
[09:11] <student> mwe:  booted to grub.  highlighted default entry.  pressed 'e'.  pressed 'e' again.  typed in 'init=/bin/sh'.  then pressed 'b' to boot.  system just booted up like normal.
[09:11] <Eugman> Anyone here well acquainted with the MBR?
[09:11] <akshay> is there anyone who can help me i searched  google but the stuff was posted there was not workin
[09:12] <rayyyys> !nocache
[09:12] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rayyyys
[09:12] <mwe> student: it's the kernel line you're supossed to edit
[09:12] <student> mwe: oh not the root line?
[09:12] <soundray> paladinew, still here?
[09:12] <rayyyys> !live ram
[09:12] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, rayyyys
[09:12] <rayyyys> :s
[09:12] <hkais> hello
[09:12] <soundray> paladinew, try replacing the last line in your sources.list with deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all
[09:12] <student> mwe: kernel line is the second one I believe?
[09:12] <mwe> student: no
[09:13] <mwe> student: yes the second or third
[09:13] <student> mwe: do I make a space before typing in init=/bin/sh, or just type it in without making a space in front.
[09:13] <Maqs__> hi
[09:13] <paladinew> ok, sec
[09:13] <rayyyys> can anyone here tell me if theres a comon way to run live in ram?
[09:13] <mwe> student: the one that begins with the word kernel
[09:13] <hkais> has anyone experience with the ati propritary driver? i have problems with the clonemode for the second screen
[09:13] <andrewd> err... what the heck are you guys talking about...
[09:13] <mwe> student: space first
[09:13] <student> mwe: brb
[09:13] <soundray> paladinew, then 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install freenx'
[09:13] <gorski> how to restart apache2
[09:13] <cello_rasp> gnome forgets my network settings every time i reboot ubuntu.. help!
[09:14] <soundray> rayyyys, you mean like knoppix toram ?
[09:14] <rayyyys> spose
[09:15] <autosuggested> cello_rasp: what does your /etc/network/interfaces file look like?
[09:15] <hkais> gorski: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:15] <rayyyys> soundray: some live cd you can put enought in to ram that you can unmout and eject the cd
[09:15] <paladinew> soundray: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:15] <rayyyys> soundray: thats all I want to do
[09:15] <monzie> how do i change the window manager in GNOME?
[09:15] <monzie> I am using Breezy
[09:15] <paladinew> soundray: got that when I was doing apt-get update
[09:15] <gorski> ok, how to solve this, please: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[09:15] <mwe> gorski: it's the third time you ask within an hour
[09:15] <rayyyys> well and then mount other stuff
[09:16] <rayyyys> ofcoures
[09:16] <hkais> has anyone experience with the ati propritary driver? i have problems with the clonemode for the second screen?
[09:16] <gorski> yes, i didn't get the answer for mysql.
[09:16] <soundray> rayyyys, I don't think there is a "common way", but if they can do it with live CDs it should be possible to do it with a HD installation...
[09:16] <monzie> can anyone please tell me how i should get rid of metacity and install sawfish?
[09:16] <trappist> hkais: did you run fglrxconfig?
[09:16] <Prozac> any way to test what my comp will respond on identd request? like make a "fake" identd request? (useing oidentd)
[09:16] <soundray> paladinew, give me two min's pls.
[09:17] <cello_rasp> nooo
[09:17] <hkais> trappist: fglrxconfig?
[09:17] <monzie> help please!
[09:17] <rayyyys> soundray: well yeah if i installed it to harddrive that would do it but i want to use the live cd at someones elses house and swap cds while I at it
[09:17] <trappist> hkais: a script that ships with the ati drivers.  it's a wizard to build xorg.conf and it will handle your dual display.
[09:17] <_oP> hello all
[09:18] <bluesign> hi all, I am trying to fully migrate to linux, but I have a problem. I _have to_ use vs.net for my job. So I am planning to run vmware, can I boot existing windows partition under VMwave?
[09:18] <monzie> how can i use sawfish in GNOME? I am on Ubuntu Breezu
[09:18] <hkais> trappist: thx i will try it
[09:18] <cello_rasp> gnome never remembers my network settings, and i have to manually switch to the loaction config every time.. my /etc/network/interfaces > http://pastebin.com/499736
[09:18] <paladinew> ok
[09:18] <_oP> @bluesign why not install windows on hd leave some space and install ubuntu or what ever as dual boot?
[09:18] <rayyyys> bluesign: I wouldn't
[09:18] <trappist> Prozac: see /etc/oidentd.conf
[09:19] <bluesign> _oP: I don't wanna leave linux, ie: have to office apps etc
[09:19] <rayyyys> bluesign: go to there website they have heaps of warnings about doing that way
[09:19] <bluesign> rayyyys: why?
[09:20] <admin_> hi
[09:20] <admin_> i'm an italian boy, i have a problem....who can help me?
[09:20] <student> mwe: okay I got it to boot into the root console.  but the 'vi' command does not work.  what is the command to add user 'student' to the admin group?
[09:20] <mwe> I heard you should be able to make tvout work with ati more or less by just plugging the cable in an reboot. Is that correct?
[09:20] <bluesign> rayyyys: what can I do, other than dual boot?
[09:20] <mwe> student: gpasswd -a student admin
[09:20] <rayyyys> bluesign: it might have been in there forums but they do tell you if your not expereanced use a virtual drive thing
[09:20] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: added line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <thefamousnomo_> , tried to apt-get install pmount but getting errors! do i have to (hate myself) restart for changes to take effect?
[09:21] <rayyyys> bluesign: um
[09:21] <omer> Hello
[09:21] <student> mwe: thanks brb
[09:21] <admin_> WHO CAN HELP ME, PLEASE?
[09:21] <mwe> student: and you should never just edit the group/passwd file. use vipw/vigr
[09:21] <trappist> thefamousnomo_: you have to 'sudo apt-get update' for the changes to take effect
[09:21] <omer> I need hellp with kernel headers.
[09:21] <rayyyys> bluesign: im no expert but id say try ghosting it to a virtual drive thing
[09:21] <JulioH> buenas
[09:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell admin about ask
[09:21] <rayyyys> rayyyys: go to vmware help forums
[09:21] <bluesign> rayyyys: oh nice idea
[09:21] <mwe> omer: what kind of help do you need with those headers?
[09:22] <_oP> @mwe u need to change ur xorg.conf file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf but make a backup first ! ill post my config also its not allowed ill do wait
[09:22] <rayyyys> bluesign: :)
[09:22] <thefamousnomo_> i have just read this, i am a windoze loser man, i can believe it! restart.... doh!
[09:22] <_oP> ##Device0##
[09:22] <_oP> Section "Device"
[09:22] <_oP> 	Identifier	"CTR Radeon 9800 Pro"
[09:22] <_oP> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[09:22] <_oP> 	BusID		"PCI:2:0:0"
[09:22] <_oP> 	Screen 		0
[09:22] <_oP>
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "VideoOverlay"          "on"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "OpenGLOverlay"         "off"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "no"
[09:22] <_jason> admin_, ubotu tell _oP about pastebin
[09:22] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "no_accel"              "no"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "no_dri"                "no"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "mtrr"                  "on"
[09:22] <rayyyys> bluesign, I think i may have remebmered people doing it  thay way (I think)
[09:22] <_oP> EndSection
[09:22] <mwe> _oP: youll get banned
[09:22] <_oP> ##Driver1##
[09:22] <kitty_> please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[09:23] <_oP> Section "Device"
[09:23] <_jason> ubotu tell _oP about pastebin
[09:23] <_oP> 	Identifier 	"TV Radeon 9800 Pro"
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <_oP> 	Driver 		"fglrx"
[09:23] <mlalkaka> does anyone know why mplayer depends on xmms in the ubuntu repositories? it doesn't make sense to me.
[09:23] <_oP> 	BusID 		"PCI:2:0:0"
[09:23] <_oP>   	Screen		1
[09:23] <soundray> paladinew, you should be able to install freenx nevertheless.   He pasted the entire buffer
[09:24] <_oP> 	EndSubSection
[09:24] <kitty_> please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[09:24] <_oP> EndSection
[09:24] <_oP> Section "ServerLayout"
[09:24] <newdle> you can disable the buffer with ctrl+break
[09:24] <_oP> 	Identifier	"Server Layout"
[09:24] <newdle> or ctrl+c usually
[09:24] <_oP> 	Screen 0 	"CTR"
[09:24] <_oP> 	Screen 1	"TV" LeftOf "CTR"
[09:24] <newdle> or /stop
[09:24] <_oP> 	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
[09:24] <_oP> 	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
[09:24] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me how to start up the firefox profile manager
[09:24] <_oP> EndSection
[09:25] <_oP> Section "DRI"
[09:25] <_oP> 	Mode	0666
[09:25] <_oP> EndSection
[09:25] <_oP> sorry
[09:25] <_oP> sorry again
[09:25] <yggdrasil_> thank god
[09:25] <_oP> do like obove and u have two seperate screens with no problems
[09:25] <CodenameKT> lol
[09:25] <CodenameKT> wow so late
[09:25] <paladinew> soundray:  ~$ sudo apt-get install freenx
[09:25] <paladinew> Reading package lists... Done
[09:25] <paladinew> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:25] <paladinew> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[09:25] <paladinew> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[09:25] <_jason> yggdrasil, firefox -profilemanager, maybe profile-manager... try both
[09:25] <JulioH> ejejje
[09:25] <kitty_> WEL DONE
[09:25] <paladinew> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[09:25] <mlalkaka> kitty_, what type of file are you trying to play (mp3, ogg, etc)?
[09:25] <mwe> crackhead
[09:25] <paladinew> or been moved out of Incoming.
[09:25] <paladinew> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[09:25] <kitty_> MP3
[09:25] <paladinew> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[09:25] <paladinew> that package should be filed.
[09:25] <paladinew> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[09:25] <fabbione> JEEE
[09:25] <mwe> paladinew: don't paste in here
[09:25] <kitty_> AND OGG
[09:25] <paladinew> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:25] <paladinew>   freenx: Depends: expect but it is not installable
[09:25] <paladinew> E: Broken packages
[09:25] <paladinew> sorry
[09:25] <rayyyys> bluesign: allthough installing from scratch in a vm would be the easyest outside of time inconvenince, if you know what i mean
[09:25] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me how to start up the firefox profile manager
[09:25] <mlalkaka> does anyone know why mplayer depends on xmms in the ubuntu repositories? is there a way to install mplayer without xmms?
[09:26] <fabbione> STOP FLOODING THIS CHANNEL
[09:26] <fabbione> USE PASTEBIN
[09:26] <fabbione> KTHXBYE
[09:26] <_jason> yggdrasil, i just did, scroll up
[09:26] <mwe> fabbione: we should make ubotu autokick and warn spammers :)
[09:26] <admin_> i'm italian and i have a problem with ubuntu!!! who can help me, please please please??
[09:26] <yggdrasil_> k jason
[09:26] <Pygi> !it
[09:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:26] <_oP> sorry again
[09:26] <_oP> :/
[09:27] <Ophiocus> argh, plastic bugs gimpshop file link is broken,. anyone knows where else i could get giumpshop?
[09:27] <mwe> _oP: don't do that again
[09:27] <admin_> ah grazie ubotu :)
[09:27] <Tyrsis> Can someone help me with WLAN installation ?
[09:27] <Pygi> never again
[09:27] <_oP> no no
[09:27] <mwe> _oP: please use the pastebin
[09:27] <rayyyys> mwe: mwe could i pick you for knowlage? is there any semi normal way to run live in ram?
[09:27] <yggdrasil_> it was the first one jason
[09:27] <yggdrasil_> htank
[09:27] <mwe> _oP: do you know pastebin?
[09:27] <omer> Which kerenel ubuntu 5.10 came with?
[09:27] <Pygi> !pastebin
[09:27] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:27] <student> mwe:  gpasswd:  can't get lock
[09:27] <Pygi> !kernel
[09:27] <Tyrsis> I have used ndiswrapper as stated in the support page, but I still cant connect to the wireless connection ?
[09:28] <Pygi> !kernel
[09:28] <mwe> student: um. hmm
[09:28] <Seveas> ugh
[09:28] <yggdrasil_> i cant believe they let him back in
[09:28] <_oP> i have heard about it ..
[09:28] <mwe> student: well
[09:28] <Seveas> someone just tried to lose all hope at getting help...
[09:28] <mwe> student: try vigr then
[09:28] <Pygi> seveas: huh?
[09:28] <_oP> @yggdrasil i have dynamic ip
[09:28] <_oP> :)
[09:28] <student> mwe: I typed in gpasswd -a student admin.  it said "Adding user student to group admin." And then "gpasswd: can't get lock".
[09:28] <student> mwe: what is vigr
[09:28] <rayyyys> mwe: should i take that as a no? :/
[09:28] <mwe> student: if it doesn't work nano or whatever editor /etc/passwd _carefully_
[09:28] <Seveas> Pygi, that pasting ***
[09:29] <omer> can you help me with my kernel? I have problem with the headers.
[09:29] <ubuntu> hello
[09:29] <mlalkaka> i think i've found some sort of error in dependencies. mplayer depends on xmms, but doesn't use xmms for anything, as far as i can tell. has anyone else noticed this? should i report it to developers or something?
[09:29] <Pygi> seveas: true :/
[09:29] <yggdrasil_> _op im intersted in seeng your pastebin
[09:29] <student> mwe: nano may not work since vi did not
[09:29] <paladinew> soundray: oops
[09:29] <soundray> paladinew, that wasn't very smart of you, after you used pastebin earlier...
[09:29] <mwe> student: vigr uses $EDITOR to edit the groups file and wont let you save if the syntax is bad
[09:29] <yggdrasil_> _op let me know when its done
[09:29] <rayyyys> ubuntu: hi ubuntu wellcome
[09:29] <ubuntu> wow linux wat to do hmm help
[09:29] <gorski> please, why does thisnot work: mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password?
[09:29] <paladinew> soundray: I didn't relaize it would flood the channel
[09:29] <Cyfr> Hi, im using gparted from the ubuntu live cd, trying to resize my HDA3 which is usualy /home, I get an error that its busy once it finishs and it reverts back to normal?
[09:29] <student> mwe: hell, I'm just going to reinstall
[09:29] <mwe> student: are some partitions not mounted or something?
[09:29] <mwe> student: no
[09:30] <mwe> student: it should be easy to fix
[09:30] <student> mwe: I don't know, I assume they are mounted
[09:30] <mwe> student: don't reinstall
[09:30] <mwe> student: type mount
[09:30] <paladinew> soundray: am I able to add the packages using synaptics manager ?
[09:30] <mwe> student: you're on that machine now?
[09:30] <soundray> paladinew, no, hold on a sec...
[09:30] <student> mwe: yes
[09:30] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: things are getting a little bit crazy now...
[09:30] <mwe> student: pastebin the output of mount
[09:30] <student> mwe: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[09:31] <student> mwe: is that good enough?
[09:31] <mwe> student: that's all?
[09:31] <student> mwe: one sec I'll pastebin
[09:31] <yatesy> this channel needs the S service from QuakeNet ;P
[09:31] <Tyrsis> Anyone know what I am doing wrong trying to get my WLAN to work ?
[09:31] <rayyyys> Seveas : can i ask you is there any way to run the live cd in ram?
[09:32] <yatesy> thats what it does?
[09:32] <yggdrasil_> selinium-p900
[09:32] <student> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6915
[09:32] <mwe> student: is vi installed?
[09:32] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: now synaptic is telling me i have broken packages. 3 i think cannot be retrieved...
[09:32] <student> mwe: yes it is
[09:32] <student> mwe: and it's my preferred console config file editor
[09:33] <mwe> student: all right so you probably need to type the full path
[09:33] <mwe> student: /usr/bin/vi
[09:33] <student> mwe: to vi you mean
[09:33] <_oP> @rayyyys if u have the live cd u have to setup ur bios to boot from cd, but u dont have to worry it will not install over ur os, the ubuntu live  cd creates a ram drive and copies the needed files there
[09:33] <student> mwe: /usr/bin/vi /etc/group
[09:33] <student> mwe: like that?
[09:33] <mwe> student: no wait
[09:33] <hkais> trappist: I have set up my xorg.conf now but anyway the second display is only available if it is connected during boot
[09:33] <selinium> yggdrasil, Hi there, off the P900 now!
[09:33] <student> mwe: alright
[09:33] <yggdrasil_> _op whats your pastebin url ?
[09:33] <yggdrasil_> selinium
[09:33] <mwe> student: try vigr
[09:33] <yggdrasil_> ive gota 910
[09:34] <mwe> student: /usr/sbin/vigr
[09:34] <student> mwe: what should be the command using vigr?
[09:34] <_oP> @yggdrasil_ how do i set u up a pastebin?
[09:34] <selinium> yggdrasil, I was just connected using irssi via PUTTY for the 900!
[09:34] <rayyyys> _oP: what im try to do is run it in ram so i can umount and eject the cd
[09:34] <student> mwe:  and what happens next?
[09:34] <yggdrasil_> ahh right on
[09:34] <mwe> student: but try /usr/bin/gpasswd -a student admin first
[09:34] <yggdrasil_> what putty client do you use ?
[09:34] <mwe> student: or then /usr/sbin/vigr
[09:34] <Tyrsis> hmmmm
[09:34] <yggdrasil_> _op just go the ther and u sign in
[09:34] <mwe> student: or as the last resort /usr/bin/vi /etc/group
[09:35] <student> mwe: alright I'll try that
[09:35] <mwe> student: and be careful with the last one
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> mwe uboto tell _op about pastebin
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> uboto tell _op about pastebin
[09:35] <soundray> paladinew, remove all the # signs from the lines beginning with deb http in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:35] <rayyyys> _oP: i am fully aware it won't afect my hd
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> selenium msg me if you want
[09:35] <_oP> @rayyyys okay :)
[09:35] <omer> which gcc is the gcc of <IP_ADDRESS>.10-386?
[09:35] <selinium> yggdrasil, http://matrix.tmit.bme.hu/putty/   :) I have a irc client as well!
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> ive got irc
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> but didnt have an ssh
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> well the ssh i have is um
[09:35] <paladinew> soundray: ok, sec
[09:36] <mwe> _oP: can you use pastebin to paste your xorg.conf for me, please?
[09:36] <yggdrasil_> not free
[09:36] <rayyyys> _oP so do you understand what i mean ?
[09:36] <mwe> !pastebin
[09:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:36] <mwe> _oP: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org there
[09:36] <rayyyys> _oP: I just can't beleave know one has an answer :?
[09:36] <creatix> hi, wei jemand wie man quicktime streams speichern kann?
[09:36] <soundray> !de
[09:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:37] <creatix> oh, sry
[09:37] <thefamousnomo_> hey, seem to have some issues retreiving 3 packages while attempting to upgrade to pmount 0.9.6-1. any ideas?
[09:37] <_oP> @rayyyys yes i guess u want to set up a ram drive witch will need no cd , but then what happens if u want to turn off ur pc ?
[09:37] <soundray> creatix, klein plobrem :)
[09:37] <mwe> creatix: look into installing w32codecs
[09:37] <paladinew> soundray: updating...
[09:37] <mwe> !tell creatix about w32codecs
[09:37] <selinium> yggdrasil, the phantom rebooter...... :)
[09:37] <_Adam_> yay
[09:37] <_Adam_> help please :)
[09:38] <_oP> <-- noob needs to know how to set up a pastebin hehe
[09:38] <mwe> _oP: would you show me your xorg.conf?
[09:38] <soundray> mwe, he wants to *save* streams...
[09:38] <Pygi> !pastebin
[09:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:38] <yggdrasil_> yea me 2
[09:38] <paladinew> soundray: installing...
[09:38] <mwe> soundray: oh
[09:38] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: sweating here man.....
[09:38] <mwe> soundray: I guess my german could be better :)
[09:38] <_Adam_> i need help with header files for vmware tools
[09:38] <ompaul> rayyyys, as far as I know the answer is you can't
[09:39] <mrd`> How do I tell synaptic I'm not interested in ever upgrading a certain package?
[09:39] <mwe> soundray: speichern means save?
[09:39] <Reiki-> (antiQrist) [where can I find info about games / apps .. for ubuntu]
[09:39] <robotgeek> mrd`: apt pinning
[09:39] <soundray> mwe, yes, save or store.
[09:39] <mjr> mrd`, not sure in synaptic, but you can say echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[09:39] <mwe> I see
[09:39] <mrd`> mjr: I already marked it hold in aptitude.
[09:39] <mrd`> mjr: Does that do the same thing?
[09:40] <mjr> yes
[09:40] <nerochiaro> hi, ubuntu and gnome newbie here. i'm having problem with audio input. everytime i use audio recorder or the input test in "multimedia systems selector" the whole application hangs and i'm forced to kill it. anyone has any suggestions ?
[09:40] <mjr> (well, should, to my knowledge)
[09:40] <rayyyys> ompaul: ok I wish some off the logtimers would repliy on this
[09:40] <_Adam_> i need help with header files for vmware tools anyone?
[09:40] <rayyyys> ompaul: thanks ompaul
[09:40] <_oP> @mwe why cant i send u a file?
[09:40] <soundray> paladinew, sounds like you're well on the way. Hope you get it set up -- I have to go.
[09:40] <_oP> :)
[09:40] <thefamousnomo_> thanks all the same man, think i have kinda ruined this install..... scared to restart
[09:40] <mwe> !pastebin
[09:40] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:40] <mrd`> mjr: Well, I'll check just to be sure.  (I know I marked it hold on this machine, I *thought* I marked it hold on the other one too.)
[09:40] <mwe> _oP: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:41] <mwe> _oP: just go there and paste
[09:41] <paladinew> soundray: thank you very much
[09:41] <mwe> _oP: then post the url here
[09:41] <soundray> Cheers, good night everyone.
[09:41] <Reiki-> ..Q: where can I find info about games / apps .. for ubuntu
[09:41] <selinium> Reiki-, In synaptic you can choose Sections (bottom left) then Games. Or you can try www.linuxgames.com
[09:41] <Reiki-> k  thanks
[09:41] <mwe> Reiki-: or happypenguin.org
[09:41] <_Adam_> i need help with header files for vmware tools anyone?
[09:41] <_oP> dohh i am to drunk to , okay cool i will do
[09:41] <Reiki-> :)
[09:41] <rayyyys> so unfriendly here
[09:41] <yggdrasil_> great
[09:41] <Pygi> !patience
[09:41] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[09:41] <LinDon> german ??
[09:42] <LinDon> channel ??
[09:42] <ompaul> rayyyys, no, your question is unusual and maybe that no one has the answer
[09:42] <_jason> !de
[09:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:42] <IAmAI> Can only suggest a package for quickly convertin multiple DOS formated files to Unix/Linux formated files in the shell?
[09:42] <EdgeLnx> How do I update the X lol?
[09:42] <IAmAI> *anyone
[09:42] <yggdrasil_> rayyyys actualy this is like the most forgiving linux chan ive ever seen
[09:42] <mwe> rayyyys: if no one answers, probably nobody knows right now
[09:42] <rayyyys> yggdrasil: hmm yeah i have seen harsher
[09:42] <_Adam_> :(
[09:43] <IAmAI> Think I found one: http://www.thefreecountry.com/tofrodos/index.shtml
[09:43] <rayyyys> mwe: is that a don't no from you to?
[09:44] <mwe> yggdrasil_: linux chans are usually like BOFH: WHAT! you havnen't administered *nix servers for 15 years? Go back to windows :)
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> rayys thats what im saying this is the most easy going oone ive seen
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> mwe yea totaly
[09:44] <ompaul> rayyyys, no, he is explaining why you got no answer, because no one knows, but I think I read somewhere and I trying to remember where that it does not
[09:44] <iantec> errr....somehow i lost the icons near the clock how do i recover them.,...i cant see the icons of applications rtunnign at the background like kopete and gaim
[09:44] <rayyyys> yggdrasil: have some tips on irc edicate
[09:44] <_Adam_> i'm a windows admin :)
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> haha
[09:44] <_oP> okay
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> rayyys first start by asking if anyone wants to cyber
[09:45] <ompaul> _Adam_, welcome to the bright side :-)
[09:45] <_oP> need to adjust the file of course
[09:45] <yggdrasil_> op post us your url ?
[09:45] <_Adam_> i just cant get the header files i need
[09:45] <odat> hi everyone
[09:46] <_oP> servas
[09:46] <trappist> _Adam_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:46] <trappist> _Adam_: oh oops you didn't mean kernel headers
[09:46] <rayyyys> yggdrasil_:  yeah him that'll break the ice
[09:46] <mwe> _oP: what's the pastebin address?
[09:46] <trappist> IAmAI: dos2unix
[09:46] <_oP> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6917
[09:47] <_Adam_> i did i need the ones for the kernal
[09:47] <IAmAI> trappist: I though that was just for Unix?
[09:47] <iantec> how do i restore my kde desktop/
[09:47] <yggdrasil_> _op yes!!!!i knew you could do it
[09:47] <iantec> ?
[09:47] <ompaul> _Adam_, >> sudo apt-get install build-essential << is the command that I think you want
[09:47] <_oP> this if u want to set up two seperate screens so .. "no clone"
[09:47] <IAmAI> trappist: Or Solaris, or whatever...
[09:47] <_oP> i am also using a ati radeon 9800 pro
[09:47] <trappist> IAmAI: there's no difference
[09:47] <IAmAI> OK.
[09:48] <mwe> _oP: ok
[09:48] <IAmAI> Gonna try tofrodos
[09:48] <ompaul> _Adam_, do you want Ubuntu to tbe the host or guest ?
[09:48] <trappist> IAmAI: it's part of the sysutils package, if you don't have it
[09:48] <IAmAI> OK
[09:48] <_Adam_> ok... cos i need files in the usr/scr/linux/included/  dirctory
[09:48] <_Adam_> the guest
[09:48] <mwe> _oP: do you know what line tells it to use tvout?
[09:48] <trappist> _Adam_: oh, you DO want kernel headers.  do what I said then :)
[09:48] <mwe> _oP: "VideoOverlay" ?
[09:48] <IAmAI> trappist: I got some Linxus drivers from a manufacturer's website and all the scripts are in DOS format!
[09:48] <IAmAI> trappist: The idiots...
[09:49] <mwe> IAmAI: lol
[09:49] <trappist> IAmAI: that's the worst thing I've ever heard
[09:49] <mwe> IAmAI: perl -pi -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' dos.txt
[09:49] <trappist> that could work too
[09:50] <trappist> or perl -pi -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' $(find /path/to/files -name '*.c' -o -name '*.h')
[09:50] <omer> Can you help me with compaile kernel headers?
[09:51] <trappist> omer: you don't compile kernel headers
[09:51] <rseeber> hey
[09:51] <_Adam_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) didnt work
[09:51] <hkais> trappist: sorry tried a restart
[09:51] <omer> I have problem with them.
[09:51] <rseeber> i just installed unbuntu and love it, but how do i get firefox 1.5
[09:51] <_Adam_> its unable to lock stuff
[09:51] <hkais> trappist: i have the same problem again. my second display won't run
[09:51] <trappist> !tell rseeber about firefox15
[09:51] <_Adam_> oh hang on
[09:51] <hkais> have I to do something special?
[09:51] <omer> There is two files I need that exicte only at my old kernel. What can I do?
[09:51] <_Adam_> working now
[09:52] <trappist> hkais: remind me - you're the nvidia guy or the ati guy?
[09:52] <_oP> @@mwe hmm dunno here i have my pc plus tv running, with two independent screens running, so i can watch movie on tv and play games on ctr
[09:52] <trappist> omer: what specifically are you trying to do
[09:52] <hkais> ati
[09:52] <rseeber> thanks
[09:52] <trappist> hkais: you ran fglrxconfig?
[09:52] <hkais> trappist: ati
[09:52] <hkais> trappist: yes
[09:52] <_oP> @trappist i wouldent do that !!
[09:53] <trappist> hkais: I'm afraid that's all I can do for ya.  it worked flawlessly for me.
[09:53] <kestra> hey, I want to set up a 32 bit chroot on my 64 bit installation... as I understand i'd have to get gnome/xserver .. but how do you then work in that 32 environment? I mean you don't have to restart or anything?.. is it in a seperate window or what? :)
[09:53] <hkais> trappist: the second display works, but only if i restart the gdm than connected the second display
[09:53] <trappist> kestra: you chroot to your chroot, basically
[09:53] <_Adam_> thats no good, the installer is being fussy and wants them in usr/scr/linux/include/
[09:53] <hkais> trappist: but it is an problem if i want to make presentations via a projector
[09:54] <_oP> lol, dohh! i am to tiddly :)
[09:54] <omer> Todo apt somehow update my kernel. So I need to run from the start the acx script, and it don't work, because of kernel headers. I have kernel headers on the computer, what I need to do now?
[09:54] <_oP> cheers!
[09:54] <trappist> omer: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:54] <kestra> okay.
[09:54] <trappist> _Adam_: what installer?
[09:55] <omer> I done that
[09:55] <_Adam_> vmware-tools-config.pl
[09:55] <mrd`> mjr: Thanks, that worked.
[09:55] <hkais> trappist: could you post me your xorg.conf?
[09:55] <trappist> _Adam_: iirc it prompts you for the location of your kernel headers
[09:55] <omer> I have linux headers. I just now notice that. Thanks any way.
[09:55] <_oP> what do smokers say if they light a cigarette ? "cheers" ? hmm...?
[09:56] <hkais> trappist: does your ati control displays the selected desktop setup?
[09:56] <holong> hello every1
[09:56] <trappist> hkais: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/xorg.conf
[09:56] <Set> I'm going insane over this
[09:56] <trappist> hkais: can't quite parse that last question
[09:56] <ompaul> Set, over what?
[09:56] <_oP> @Set yes what is the prob`?
[09:56] <_Adam_> yes trappist, but it complains it cant find the linux directory
[09:57] <bakkk> I am installing FCGI and I am getting configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[09:57] <icaros> l
[09:57] <ompaul> _oP, you really don't need the @ most clients change colour when a users name is used
[09:57] <Guest8438> hi how do i change the keyboard layout in fluxbox / UBUNTU
[09:57] <trappist> _Adam_: it's not insisting on a location.  it's prompting you and providing its best guess.  just tell it the path to your real headers.
[09:57] <hkais> trappist: if you start your ati control, what is selected in the dual screen tab\desktop setup?
[09:58] <_Adam_> i tried that and it siad there isnt a directory called linux like it expected
[09:58] <Set> _oP, well. to make it short. I am fiddling with a server setup. First I tried SUSE. But the community is quite arrogant and unhelpful towards n00bs, it seems. All I want to do is to setup a server with ssh, sftp, a server called TwonkyVision. that's the core things I need for it, all other things I can fiddle with for years, if it takes that.
[09:58] <_oP> @ompaul okay but i like it, its more personal
[09:58] <Set> So, having had *very* good experiences with k/ubuntu earlier, with the helpfulness of you guys, I'm wondering if ubuntu can do this
[09:58] <_Adam_> my misstake
[09:59] <_Adam_> i just tried restarting the config.pl and its found them :P
[09:59] <_Adam_> sorrys
[09:59] <Guest8438> any 1, keyboard layout in ubuntu, how to change?
[09:59] <kerub88> hello all!
[09:59] <omer> Hello
[09:59] <_Adam_> thanks trappist
[09:59] <pansonic> hello
[10:00] <kerub88> can anybody help to me?
[10:00] <_oP> suse there u only find noobs like me, u are right here
[10:00] <gnomefreak> kerub88, not if we dont know whats wrong
[10:00] <kerub88> :)
[10:00] <_oP> good people good help :)
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, One moment, I may be able to find that.  (I'm using Gnome, which has a GUI for it, but I don't know anything about Fluxbox.)
[10:00] <Teskupo> Dreamglider!!
[10:00] <kerub88> I install ubuntu an hour ago...
[10:00] <trappist> hkais: that was the first time I ever used ati control, and if I enable tv-out I get the same behavior you're seeing.  screwed me all up :)
[10:01] <hkais> lol
[10:01] <_oP> @@@@@@@@@
[10:01] <kerub88> and i cant set the monitor resolution higher then 640*480
[10:01] <hkais> trappist: sorry
[10:01] <trappist> np
[10:01] <_oP> @
[10:01] <cvt|kde> no shockwave?
[10:01] <hkais> trappist: i will try your xorg.conf
[10:01] <_oP> :)
[10:01] <hkais> which card do you have?
[10:01] <trappist> I dunno, some laptop card
[10:01] <kerub88> nvidia
[10:01] <gnomefreak> kerub88, does your monitor or vc support over 640 480?
[10:01] <Set> _oP, I didn't say you were a n00b. I said SUSE is unhelpful towards n00bs, like me (to my experience)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, Okay, I have something.  Keyboard layouts for X are defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the InputDevice | Keyboard section.
[10:02] <Guest8438> tonyyarusso i also have Gnome can i change the layout in gnom would it change in fluxbox too?
[10:02] <trappist> kerub88: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:02] <kerub88> yes of course (1024*768)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, Maybe.  Worth a try.
[10:02] <odat> SCO is gonna lose lololo hooray lol
[10:02] <gnomefreak> kerub88, use the command trappist just gave and change it
[10:02] <student> okay how do I make it so that when I am logged in as a non-admin user, I can use the "su" program to run programs if I need to.  I don't necessarily want to log-off the user and re-login with the admin account.
[10:03] <trappist> student: you want to use sudo for that
[10:03] <gnomefreak> student, use sudo than the command
[10:03] <ompaul> Set, is there a linux client or sever for this twonkyserver
[10:03] <Guest8438> but when i do it i think i loos my graphic setting on my comp i have a vaio with a wired resolution
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, If you have to edit that file, look for the lines with XkbModel and XkbLayout (mine are pc104 and us, respectively).
[10:03] <student> trappist: gnomefreak: I can't use sudo because the user is not in the admin group.
[10:03] <Set> ompaul, Yes, it is. I don't have a problem running it, but I'm having problems making it run at startup (not being started manually)
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, No idea about the graphics setting.
[10:04] <ompaul> Set, how do you start it on the command line?
[10:04] <trappist> student: to do that you'd have to enable the root account, which can be done but it defeats the purpose of how ubuntu handles root access
[10:05] <Set> ./TwonkyMedia
[10:05] <trappist> gah.
[10:05] <_omerlh> How can I switch the kernel to my old and good one?
[10:05] <Pygi> freaky: please read ur mail
[10:05] <ompaul> Set, heh, okay so is it fair to say that it is in your home directory
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, Do you still have the old one installed, or did you delete after upgrading?
[10:05] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:05] <gnomefreak> i just did im sending it back
[10:05] <_oP> Set what i meant is that if u had suse running u cant expect experts :) ubuntu is build up on debian which has proven it self over many years espessialy in forums and help channels
[10:05] <Pygi> freaky:k,I'll look
[10:05] <gnomefreak> i hope :(
[10:06] <_omerlh> No, I think I have. I don't  delete anything.
[10:06] <Shackleton1986> hi
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, Also, do you use Grub, Lilo, or something else for your bootloader?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> damnit thunderbird is down let me re-send this :(
[10:06] <_omerlh> I think grub.
[10:06] <ompaul> _oP, conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic please this is a support channel and altough interesting chats elsewhere please as we have over 650 here
[10:06] <odat> who wants a kick ass sources list?
[10:07] <Blacken__> Howdy, folks. Anyone have any experience trying to install 5.10 under VMware 4?
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, Okay, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst, see if it has multiple entries, with each of the kernels.
[10:07] <woodgrain> how do I find out what version of JRE is on my system?
[10:07] <_oP> hee`
[10:07] <Set> ompaul, do you think you could be able to help me with setting up an anonymous ftp server that allows anonymous users upload into an upload directory in ubuntu?...
[10:07] <woodgrain> Is JRE part of the ubuntu base install?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, If it does, you'll just have to change the default one.  If not, I think update-grub will check the system for kernels and add them.
[10:08] <_oP> pff :))
[10:08] <ompaul> Set, shall we sort one thing at a time
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, No, it wouldn't be legal.
[10:08] <odat> woodgrain, no
[10:08] <john_> Anybody run ubuntu on vmware?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, A good way to find if you have it though is locate j2re.
[10:08] <Blacken> john_: I'm trying to, at least.
[10:08] <Ribs> john_: I do.
[10:08] <paladinew> where do I find my IP ?
[10:08] <Ribs> What's up?
[10:08] <john_> How's it going
[10:08] <odat> tonyyarusso, sup
[10:08] <Pygi> paladinew: ifconfig
[10:08] <paladinew> ty
[10:08] <john_> Mine is a bit sluggish
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> odat, Back and school, and liking not having to use dialup anymore!
[10:09] <Set> ompaul, yes. of course. but I haven't installed ubuntu yet, so maybe it's rude to ask then? I was just wondering if ubuntu is a better choice for my needs
[10:09] <Blacken> john_: Terrible. I can't even install the Christing thing.
[10:09] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso, but I can put it on if I want to, eh?
[10:09] <Ribs> john_: The virtual machine will always be slower than the real one.
[10:09] <odat> tonyyarusso, i bet!!
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Yep.
[10:09] <_omerlh> yes, there is two kernels there.
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> !tell woodgrain about java
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> !tell woodgrain about javadebs
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Those should help.
[10:09] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso,  do people commonly put JRE on ubuntu boxes or is it weird?
[10:09] <_omerlh> thanks you
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, I don't know about everyone else, but I do because I need it for applets on certain web sites.
[10:10] <Itz>   got ptoblem with apache 2.0.54 (ubuntu)  not showing my native language correct and yes my html got: <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">  but it aint working anyway... if i open the content on my harddrive its showing correct
[10:10] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso, big help thatnks a lot -- I'm trying to run eclipse, which requires jre.
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Also, PLF repos have current jre versions, if you want to check out those.
[10:10] <ompaul> Set, not really, the thing is that if you have the box in front of you then we can do one thing at a time however before you go to do that let me give you a URL you should read about adding packages in ubuntu
[10:10] <ompaul> !tell set about repos
[10:10] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso,  what's the PLF repository?
[10:10] <odat> woodgrain, my ubuntu has everything you would fine in a commercial desktop OS  you pretty much have to add java,flash,mplayer,w32, etc etc. But once that stuff is installed   my ubuntu is bad ass
[10:11] <ompaul> !tell set about synaptic
[10:11] <Blacken> Ubuntu on VMware 4 is giving me trouble -- "Cannot install base system to /target/".
[10:11] <Blacken> IDE and SCSI emulation both bork.
[10:11] <woodgrain> odat, what's w32?
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Penguin Liberation Front.  They put together packages that are of, um, questionable legality to release.
[10:11] <kerub88> this works!!! many thanks!!
[10:11] <ompaul> Set, read the stuff from ubotu before you start if you want to build a server with all sorts of extras in it
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> !tell woodgrain about plf
[10:11] <trappist> Itz: is it a php file?
[10:11] <odat> woodgrain, the codecs/dll for windows media video
[10:12] <odat> kerub88, what works?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> the res works now?
[10:12] <Set> ompaul, I'll start installing it now :) Got the server right here and have an ubuntu cd
[10:12] <Itz> trappist,   http://vernus.mine.nu/VERNUS/
[10:12] <ompaul> Set, :-)
[10:12] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso, does re-booting make an ubuntu box run faster?
[10:13] <Itz> trappist,  ordinary html.. nothing fancy
[10:13] <odat> woodgrain, no
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, I doubt it.
[10:13] <trappist> Itz: it looks good to me.  you might check your browser settings, font, things like that
[10:13] <Blacken> odat, tonyyarusso: Untrue. Firefox leaks.
[10:13] <mchasard> is there an ubuntu lite version ?
[10:13] <Set> ubuntu is able to apt-get dist-upgrade, from any version=
[10:13] <Blacken> A lot of memory gets chewed up.
[10:13] <odat> tonyyarusso, wow there are newbies then there are NEWBIES   whew
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> Blacken, Explain?
[10:13] <woodgrain> odat, if I have 20 evince documents open and open office, that _should_ make my box run slower, right?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ubuntu lite? is that like miller lite?
[10:14] <Blacken> tonyyarusso: Fx never releases all its image data and eventually you'll run out of memory.
[10:14] <Blacken> afk
[10:14] <woodgrain> odat, just trying to keep an eye out for instabilities.
[10:14] <trappist> woodgrain: rebooting is not the solution for that
[10:14] <mchasard> like mepis lite
[10:14] <woodgrain> trappist, what is?
[10:14] <odat> woodgrain, depends on your hardware but prolly  YES
[10:14] <Itz> trappist,  it aint working on three computers... nor mozilla. ff . opera or internet explorer except when opening from harddrive... my native language  doesnt show correctly
[10:14] <kerub88> now, i can modify the monitor resolution:)
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> odat, Yeah, well, I was one of those VERY recently.
[10:14] <trappist> woodgrain: closing what's open?
[10:14] <mchasard> just in order to use it with older config
[10:14] <kerub88> (odat)
[10:14] <odat> Blacken, what did i say about firefox?
[10:14] <woodgrain> trappist, no joke, smarty!
[10:14] <odat> tonyyarusso, lol i also forget how quickly i caught on
[10:14] <odat> lol
[10:15] <gnomefreak> mchasard, you can install server mode that is text only no GUI than install a lightweight desktop app like fluxbox or xfce
[10:15] <odat> kerub88, ?
[10:15] <trappist> Itz: whatever you just typed there as your language showed up as gibberish here, but your website looks great.  I do have a *lot* of fonts installed, though.
[10:15] <mchasard> yes but for the moment i just want to use as livecd
[10:15] <mchasard> is there a lite version on live cd
[10:16] <Itz> trappist, yeah but somehow it aint choosing correct charset so i cant see my swedish words. but it works from my harddrive so its obviously something with apache... also works on my pals webbserver under windows ms.
[10:16] <trappist> Itz: er wait, there doesn't seem to be any text here.  just images.
[10:16] <Blacken> Back.
[10:16] <trappist> nm, not true
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> odat, Yeah, that still amazes me.  When I was first looking at things, they talked about the "steeper learning curve", and how that would make it harder to catch on initially.  Recently though, I saw another article that suggested that it should be looked at as you will know more sooner, and that seemed about right.
[10:16] <kerub88> five minutes ago, i ask for my problem here, trappist answer that.....  (odat)
[10:17] <trappist> Itz: the O's look like diamonds, but that looks like maybe it's deliberate?
[10:17] <Itz> trappist, no the o is a swedish latter that you cant see.. and neither am i but im suppose to do that ;)
[10:17] <odat> kerub88, ok
[10:18] <trappist> ah hah.
[10:18] <kerub88> so thx for answer, by all
[10:19] <thegladiator> this is my memtest86+ result , do you think this could cause crashing of many applications esp firefox which crashes witout any error ?
[10:19] <thegladiator> http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg
[10:19] <nerochiaro> if anyone is willing to help, i have this problem with audio input: everytime i use audio recorder or the input test in "multimedia systems selector" the whole application hangs and i'm forced to kill it. this happens with both alsa and esd inputs.
[10:19] <svb_moe> Jemand aus Deutschland da?
[10:20] <Profichilla> svb_moe >> #ubuntu-de
[10:20] <trappist> Itz: it may be a compile-time problem.  I'm checking.
[10:20] <Itz> trappist, ok thx
[10:20] <thegladiator> someone pleasE?
[10:20] <trappist> Itz: also try this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset
[10:21] <Itz> trappist,  i also changed my  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:21] <Itz>  since i was running utf-8before
[10:21] <Itz> trappist, ok reading
[10:21] <thegladiator> going by the result of memtest http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg , do you think this cud be causin applications like firefox to crash  ? it crashes many times . wondering if a mem replace can help . is it time to replace my mem ?
[10:22] <hkais> trappist: have you reconfigured something in the ati control?
[10:22] <thegladiator> if its internal prog bug i'd save upgrading my RAM
[10:22] <Blacken>  "The base system install into /target/ failed." Anyone ever seen this error in VMware?
[10:22] <trappist> hkais: no, never used it before today
[10:23] <hkais> anyway is something preselected in dualscreen\desktop setup?
[10:23] <greg> hey all i'v been here a few times lol has anyone ever install ShowEQ on ubuntu? if so plz msg me
[10:23] <joseph> I have a regular user who does not belong to the admin group.  I want to be able to run admin programs while this user is logged in.  how can I accomplish this?
[10:23] <hkais> trappist: anyway is something preselected in dualscreen\desktop setup?
[10:23] <kitty_> can someone help me.. i cant get any audio in KDE or Gnome
[10:23] <mofomikeman> I need help
[10:23] <Itz> trappist, sounds like your into something... whough i dont understand where i should change this syntax?
[10:24] <trappist> hkais: I don't have anything matching that description in my ati control
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> kitty_, Can you get audio outside of the DEs?
[10:24] <kitty_> i dont know what that means...
[10:24] <hkais> trappist: no tab dualscreen?
[10:24] <mofomikeman> PM me if you can offer support, please.
[10:24] <_jason> joseph, add him to the admin group 'adduser USERNAME admin'
[10:24] <joseph> _jason: I don't want to add him to the admin group...these are children students.
[10:24] <trappist> Itz: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[10:25] <joseph> _jason: I need to maintain separate admin and user accounts.  But when logged in as user, I want to be able to run admin programs optionally.
[10:25] <joseph> is this impossible in ubuntu?
[10:25] <trappist> joseph: if you're logged in as one of those guys, su - to your own account and then sudo
[10:25] <_jason> joseph, hrmm I don't know, you could 'su' to your user and then run them I suppose
[10:26] <Itz> trappist,  ok looking into that now then
[10:26] <trappist> mofomikeman: you're not going to get any until you ask a question.  guaranteed.
[10:26] <thegladiator> http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg  can someone tell me how good is memtest result ? is it time for immediate replacement ?
[10:26] <SmasSive> Anyone have /var/run mounted with tmpfs?
[10:26] <kitty_> im not sure what you mean
[10:26] <thegladiator> the machine boots well. some apps crash though
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> joseph, You can define sudo for each user to allow them to run only certain programs.  Use visudo to edit the sudoers file, and you can add whatever you need them to be able to do to that.
[10:26] <joseph> trappist: _jason: okay but then what about the gnome system programs, would I have to launch them from console?  I wouldn't be able to just launch them from menu and have a dialogue come up asking me for the admin password.
[10:26] <odat> joseph, its all in permisssion which you can find and change in user and groups
[10:27] <_jason> joseph, launch them with 'gksudo' would work (if they need admin rights)
[10:27] <_jason> joseph, one sec, let em try something
[10:27] <ompaul> thegladiator, new ram perhaps
[10:27] <joseph> odat: tonyyarusso:  I want my user to have no admin permissions at all, and I want my admin user to have all the admin permissions.  When the user is logged on to his gnome session, I want to be able to launch programs that require admin permissions and have a dialogue come up asking me for appropriate password.
[10:27] <ompaul> thegladiator, you don't know what it will corrupt next
[10:27] <thegladiator> it cud be causing many apps to crash in your opinion ?
[10:28] <thegladiator> i see'256 is a high number in 256MB ram ?
[10:28] <thegladiator> 256 errors I mean
[10:28] <ompaul> joseph, just set up a second user and they don't have those permissions
[10:28] <cyphase> http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/2006/01/09/
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> joseph, Which do you mean by the "appropriate password"?  That of the normal user, or admin?
[10:28] <erUSUL> hikenboot, i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[10:28] <ompaul> thegladiator, that is an erro in the 108k location in ram
[10:28] <joseph> tonyyarusso: that of the admin
[10:28] <mofomikeman> register
[10:29] <erUSUL> hikenboot, i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[10:29] <thegladiator> aaah...so firefox etc could be using this location ?
[10:29] <mofomikeman> How do I register?
[10:29] <hkais> anyone else here with ati propritary driver and dual screen mode?
[10:29] <thegladiator> doent these progs skip bad mem locations ?
[10:29] <joseph> tonyyarusso: the way it works in Debian, if you've ever used it....when regular users launch programs requiring root permission, a dialogue comes up asking for the password.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> mofomikeman, register what?
[10:29] <thegladiator> these programs  cant use good locations ? or such a feature is not available ?
[10:29] <mofomikeman> on mIRC
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> joseph, I haven't used Debian, but there are one or two things in Ubuntu that have asked for the root password, rather than the user password of a full sudoer.
[10:30] <thegladiator> mofomikeman, this is no MIRC HELP dude
[10:30] <gnomefreak> type /msg nickserv register your password
[10:30] <_jason> joseph, you can lock the screen and then switch user, login as yourself, and then when you log out you'll return to the locked screen (the user would have to then type their password to unlock it)
[10:30] <misieh> see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[10:30] <kitty_> can someone help me to get my audio working...
[10:30] <joseph> _jason: that's such an ordeal
[10:30] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, does he mean mirc or freenode ?
[10:30] <mofomikeman> ok ill ask my ubuntu questions then
[10:30] <gnomefreak> im assuming mirc works same way as xchat
[10:30] <mofomikeman> HOLD ON
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> joseph, Why do you need these things run by the admin but under another users login?  (I'm assuming the user in question would not know the admin password?)
[10:31] <thegladiator> mirc registration is for software...as sucj
[10:31] <thegladiator> such*
[10:31] <mofomikeman> Two questions:  My gui will not load, I have just installed it.  Right now I am booted to windows, as I don't know how to use the linux console (i was told ubuntu was more windows-like, for beginners).  And my other question, I do not know the password to the root account! I do not ever remember setting one up.
[10:31] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, dont have a clue mirc would be when he makes his name so i assumed freenode
[10:31] <_jason> joseph, I agree with you, you are better off using 'su' in a terminal.  But I don't see how else you can get a menu etc.
[10:31] <ompaul> !tell mofomikeman about root
[10:31] <Sansu> lo everyone
[10:31] <Itz> trappist, ok i changed: AddDefaultCharset iso-8859-1    what do i need to do to get it enabled? apache2 restart?
[10:31] <thegladiator> ompaul, ah
[10:31] <joseph> tonyyarusso: because these are student library computers that will be logged in as regular users.  In case something happens I might want to walk-up to it and launch a program that requires admin permissions.
[10:31] <trappist> Itz: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:32] <mofomikeman> the password is locked as in "locked" ?
[10:32] <thegladiator> ompaul, wud the location 108k be used by firefox? or other applications ?
[10:32] <ompaul> mofomikeman run this  >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[10:32] <gnomefreak> mofomikeman, you use sudo and user password for "root" access
[10:32] <ompaul> mofomikeman, what said that?
[10:32] <thegladiator> therer is no feture to skip damaged mem as hard disk does ?
[10:32] <thegladiator> feature*
[10:32] <TTilus> thegladiator: afaik no
[10:33] <misieh> what do you have to do to set up a ubuntu mashine as a router (i have both netcards working, i can connect to the internet from ubuntu, i can ping computers on my local network BUT they cannot go out to the internet)
[10:33] <hkais> thegladiator: how do you wish to detect the defect ram?
[10:33] <joseph> _jason: is there a way to turn off this ubuntu sudo stuff and just go back to the regular way of doing things?
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> joseph, How often does "something happen"?  A new login seems like the simplest way, but I'll grant that it would be annoying to have to do a lot.  Also, is it absolutely necessary to have menu access, or could you live with launching from a command line?
[10:33] <mofomikeman> DAMNIT this is too confusing, too much talk
[10:33] <TTilus> thegladiator: other than totally skipping it off from the computer
[10:33] <ompaul> mofomikeman, read the full page it will be obvious, in using Ubuntu for a year and a good bit I have not had to use "root" all done through sudo
[10:33] <_jason> joseph, what's the regular way? using root?
[10:33] <thegladiator> hkais, i dont know , it wud have been gr8 if its there
[10:33] <thegladiator> TTilus, i see
[10:33] <pramz> joseph: what benefit do you see from using a root account ?
[10:33] <Itz> trappist,  same shit but i got a warning: [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[10:33] <joseph> _jason: yes, using root.  and having a gui dialogue prompt for root password if you launch a program that is priviledged.
[10:33] <pramz> joseph: if you really need to work _as_ root , try sudo -s
[10:33] <thegladiator> TTilus, so common applications will be using it ?
[10:33] <ompaul> mofomikeman, it gets easy hang there for a little while it is fast but there are over 600 people here :)
[10:34] <thegladiator> like say FIREFOX and the likes wud be using 108K ?
[10:34] <thegladiator> its crashing quite often
[10:34] <hkais> thegladiator: i have seen such an project, but it is very odd... do not know anymore the name
[10:34] <ompaul> thegladiator, random programs would be
[10:34] <TTilus> thegladiator: eventually somebody will be using it
[10:34] <joseph> pramz: the benefit is that when launching a priviledged program from within a non-admin session, it would prompt for root password and I could get work done fast.
[10:34] <ninnghizidha> anyone tried the "radeon"-drivers before and can give me an idea about their usability?
[10:34] <thegladiator> ah . yeah I hope the same
[10:34] <hkais> anyone else here with ati propritary driver and dual screen mode?
[10:34] <mofomikeman> so lets say my password for my user "mofomikeman" is eggs, then id logon with "sudo" and password eggs?
[10:34] <joseph> pramz: but I want not only console root/admin, but also gui dialogue prompt for root/admin
[10:34] <GoRoDeK> hi, since i update ubuntu dapper today to kernel 2.6.15-11 and upgrad all new packages i experience some major performance issues. anyone knows this kind of problem?
[10:34] <ninnghizidha> hkais: i did, and it was horrible
[10:35] <pramz> joseph: how exactly does the current way prevent you from doing that ? sudo runs the command _as_ root
[10:35] <ninnghizidha> i switched back to the ati-drivers
[10:35] <trappist> Itz: it sounds like your apache config is not the way it shipped with ubuntu, or you put your directive in the wrong place.
[10:35] <TTilus> joseph: what do you need that for?
[10:35] <hkais> ninnghizidha: have you an dualscreen setup?
[10:35] <joseph> pramz: sudo is disabled unless you belong to admin group.
[10:35] <ninnghizidha> sure, hkais ...
[10:35] <_jason> joseph, I don't know about that.  I know that enabling root supposedly 'breaks the gui admin tools' but I don't know if that means they won't give you access at all or if they request the root password.  You can try it and if it doesn't do what you like you can disable the root account again
[10:35] <ninnghizidha> but not xinerama
[10:35] <mofomikeman> is sudo a command or user logon?
[10:35] <pramz> joseph: as it should be, only certain users should have sudo enabled. And the user created during install is part of the admin group
[10:36] <hkais> ninnghizidha: is it an setup for an beamer?
[10:36] <joseph> TTilus: because the session will be as a non-admin user.  I don't want to have to log-off and re-login to get access to admin stuff.  and launching from console with funny commands is tiresome.  I want dialogue prompt for root/admin password.
[10:36] <trappist> Itz: it should go inside a block with <Directory />
[10:36] <TTilus> mofomikeman: its not logon
[10:36] <kitty_> can some one please help me... my audio wont work for KDE or Gnome... whats going on...
[10:36] <mofomikeman> so i logon as mofomikeman and type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" without the quotes?
[10:36] <thegladiator> kitty_, do a sound test
[10:36] <TTilus> joseph: use sudo
[10:36] <odat> gnome rocks!
[10:36] <kitty_> how do i do that...
[10:36] <mofomikeman> is sudo a command or what?
[10:36] <pramz> joseph: having every user have access to su and sudo would be security nightmare, hell on servers I have the su binary chmodded 660 so only people belonging to the wheel group or admin group can run it
[10:36] <TTilus> mofomikeman: command
[10:36] <thegladiator> kitty_, in kde now ?
[10:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell mofomikeman about sudo
[10:37] <kitty_> yer
[10:37] <joseph> pramz: I have a user without sudo enabled.  I want it that way.  But I want to be able to use a SEPARATE admin account to run programs from within that non-admin users session.
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> joseph, _jason: I have root enabled, but 95% of things ask for my password like before; one or two asked for root's.
[10:37] <joseph> pramz: if it's a nightmare why does Debian stable function this way?
[10:37] <ninnghizidha> hkais, a beamer is just like any other monitor ... just modify you xorg.conf
[10:37] <TTilus> mofomikeman: try $ whoami and then $ sudo whoami
[10:37] <thegladiator> kitty_, K menu---> system settings ---> sound
[10:37] <Itz> trappist, block inside what?
[10:37] <kitty_> hang on
[10:37] <TTilus> mofomikeman: go ti?
[10:37] <thegladiator> just try a test
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> mofomikeman, Yes, saying to run something as root (SuperUser DO).
[10:37] <TTilus> mofomikeman: got it?
[10:37] <hkais> ninnghizidha: could you do an test for me?
[10:37] <mofomikeman>  is sudo a console command?
[10:37] <mofomikeman> what does it do?
[10:37] <ninnghizidha> sure, but i guess i cant help you.
[10:37] <thegladiator> what sound are you talking about ? if its mp3 etc , the format is not suported default on ubuntu
[10:38] <hkais> ninnghizidha: have you an clone mode setup?
[10:38] <ninnghizidha> no.
[10:38] <ninnghizidha> i got xinerama working.
[10:38] <joseph> pramz: as it stands now, when logged in as non-admin user, I have no way of making admin configuration changes.  I have to completely log-off the user session, interrupting his work, and then log-on as admin and then make the change.....
[10:38] <thegladiator> kitty_, tell me what are you trying to play ?
[10:38] <TTilus> mofomikeman: yes, tonyyarusso just told what it does
[10:38] <joseph> pramz:  how is that tenable?
[10:38] <hkais> ninnghizidha: what is your grafikcard?
[10:38] <kitty_> mp3, oggs everything
[10:38] <Itz> trappist,  now i changed in the config to vernus.mine.nu then it said:  NameVirtualHost vernus.mine.nu:0 has no VirtualHosts
[10:38] <TTilus> joseph: no, you dont
[10:38] <hkais> ninnghizidha: sorry which card do you have?
[10:38] <joseph> TTilus: there is another solution?
[10:38] <ninnghizidha> ati radeon 9600
[10:38] <mofomikeman> it sent me a non-functional wiki link
[10:38] <pramz> joseph: if you would tell me what type of configuration changes require you to logout and not use sudo that would help
[10:39] <odat> kitty_, kde is your problem    ooops sorry couldn't resist
[10:39] <TTilus> joseph: tell me what is the admin thing you want to do?
[10:39] <rseeber> hmmm, how do i get mp3's to work?
[10:39] <hkais> ninnghizidha: could you post me the xorg.conf?
[10:39] <TTilus> joseph: installing packages?
[10:39] <joseph> pramz: just about everythin in the System ---> Administration menu
[10:39] <kitty_> it doesnt work in Gnome either
[10:39] <ninnghizidha> wait a second.
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> joseph, Applications > System > New Login allows you to login another user without breaking the first's session.
[10:39] <thegladiator> odat, no flame wars or distro wars please thank ou
[10:39] <thegladiator> you*
[10:39] <odat> thegladiator, k sorry
[10:39] <pramz> joseph: thats funny, I can do all that without logging out of the system
[10:39] <Sansu> wassup freaks and geeks
[10:39] <joseph> tonyyarusso: I don't have an "Applications --> System" menu.
[10:39] <thegladiator> kitty_, tell me whats the app you are trying first ?
[10:40] <pramz> joseph: so unless your configuration is messed up I dont see why you would have to log off
[10:40] <mofomikeman> HELP
[10:40] <mofomikeman> what is sudo
[10:40] <joseph> pramz: how do you do it without logging out of the system?  (assuming you are logged in as user that does not belong to admin group).
[10:40] <mofomikeman> tell mofomikeman about sudo
[10:40] <thegladiator> !sudo
[10:40] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <kitty_> i've got loads of different ones mainly amarok
[10:40] <mofomikeman> !sudo
[10:40] <_jason> mofomikeman, read the link ubotu sent you
[10:40] <mofomikeman> THAT LINK DOESNT WORK
[10:40] <wng> I just changed the DNS on a domain, and the changes arent showing up on my laptop running Ubuntu 5.10, On my WinXP box I did "ipconfig /flushdns" to flush the DNS cache, and the changes are appearing, is there any way to do this on Ubuntu?
[10:40] <thegladiator> yeah
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <pramz> joseph: I am in the admin group , administration tasks should be performed by the person in the admin group. Hence the reason there is an admin group
[10:40] <mofomikeman> n00b
[10:40] <TTilus> joseph: hum, you don have it?  maybe theres something weird with your conf
[10:40] <ninnghizidha> hkais, look at http://pastebin.com/499850
[10:41] <mofomikeman> that link 404's
[10:41] <_jason> mofomikeman, make it https instead of http
[10:41] <odat> kitty_, and what is the main audio driver your using   OSS, alsa, esd ???
[10:41] <joseph> pramz: but I want to have non-admin users logged on....these computers are for children students.
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> joseph, That's a Gnome thing, not sure what you're using.  Might have something similar though, if you look around for new login.
[10:41] <pramz> joseph: if the person is not in the admin group, you can start a seperate X login to login under your credentials and run the command yourself
[10:41] <kitty_> i dont know
[10:41] <hkais> ninnghizidha: thx i will try your setup
[10:41] <odat> kitty_, oh thats right kde i'm not sure how to check it in kde
[10:41] <sharn8> ok i need some help
[10:41] <odat> sorry
[10:41] <ninnghizidha> good luck.
[10:41] <mofomikeman> wow, jason, thanks, that did absolutley DICK
[10:41] <_jason> mofomikeman, actually wiki seems to be down at the moment
[10:42] <kitty_> i can go back to gnome if its easier
[10:42] <_jason> mofomikeman, watch your language
[10:42] <joseph> pramz: I shouldn't have to create a separate X session or use the "New Login" command, just to get access to admin permissions!
[10:42] <mofomikeman> ...sorry
[10:42] <mofomikeman> ok well can you PM me about sudo?
[10:42] <sharn8> i installed ubuntu on hda2 with windows me on hda1 and when i dome to the boot screen it says error 17
[10:42] <joseph> pramz: I should be able to just launch the program, and have a dialogue box come up and ask me for admin password
[10:42] <odat> kitty_, you don't have to i am biased but i can't help with kde
[10:42] <thick-glasses> I need some partition resizing help
[10:42] <_jason> mofomikeman, it means SuperUser DO, and basically lets you do stuff that requires root privileges.  The wiki should be back up soon and you can read more about it
[10:42] <kitty_> i'll be back in a sec
[10:43] <sharn8> come*|
[10:43] <mofomikeman> i dont know anything about linux
[10:43] <pramz> joseph: this might help you: http://xsu.sourceforge.net/
[10:43] <sharn8> can someone help me?
[10:43] <TTilus> joseph: or you could do the same with console, ssh -X adminuser@localhost
[10:43] <mofomikeman> that is why i came to ubuntu
[10:43] <TTilus> joseph: then do your thing
[10:43] <Itz> trappist, so it seems that it might be a problem with it not recognizing where my virtual host is? though i havent configured any?
[10:43] <sharn8> i guess i need help reinstalling grub bootloader
[10:43] <thick-glasses> I'm deleting my windows ntfs part, is there a way to resize my ubuntu root part to use that space?
[10:43] <wng> Is there  any way to flush the DNS cache on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:43] <joseph> TTilus:  shouldn't have to ssh -X it's too complicated
[10:43] <odat> mofomikeman, what are you trying to do?
[10:43] <mofomikeman> fix my gui
[10:44] <misieh> mofomikeman: did you install ubuntu without problems?
[10:44] <BradM> lumps
[10:44] <TTilus> joseph: sorry, cant make it less complicated
[10:44] <pramz> hi mofomikeman
[10:44] <mofomikeman> i installed it without problems
[10:44] <odat> mofomikeman, how so?
[10:44] <sharn8> hello?
[10:44] <mofomikeman> but it says some stupid error about your gui x something or other couldnt load
[10:44] <Blacken> So nobody's familiar with VMware and Ubuntu?
[10:44] <sharn8> can someone help me reinsall grub bootloader?
[10:44] <joseph> pramz: that program requires access to su and the root account, which is NOT AVAILABLE to me on ubuntu.
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> joseph, What breadth of things are we classifying as too complicated?  I checked out ssh for the first time over break, and it didn't seem too bad.
[10:44] <TTilus> joseph: tried to enable root acoount?
[10:44] <misieh> then just use sudo <your command>. should work
[10:45] <Itz> trappist,  hmm i try to get help irl. hard to sort this problem out it seems like :/
[10:45] <thick-glasses> Blacken: yes, I installed it
[10:45] <misieh> try sudo -v
[10:45] <kitty_> im back in gnome now
[10:45] <pramz> joseph: you CAN set a password for root
[10:45] <pramz> joseph: under your account
[10:45] <odat> mofomikeman, reconfigure your xserver  the command is     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:45] <pramz> the admin account that is
[10:45] <misieh> to check if you have the permissions
[10:45] <pramz> sudo passwd root
[10:45] <pramz> and voila
[10:45] <pramz> you have su and root access
[10:45] <thick-glasses> Blacken: what are you trying to do?
[10:45] <joseph> tonyyarusso: I don't want ssh just to get access to root priviledge from a non-admin session....
[10:45] <odat> kitty_, find the multimedia system selector in your preferences
[10:46] <sharn8> hello i need some help
[10:46] <kitty_> what do i do with it..
[10:46] <joseph> pramz: I can get access to root?  then when I launch a program from non-admin session, will a dialogue come up and ask for root password?
[10:46] <joseph> pramz: no because ubuntu is hardcoded for the sudo thingy
[10:46] <meepy> How do I change the language in GNOME?
[10:47] <sharn8> knock knock
[10:47] <kitty_> i tested them... nothing...
[10:47] <weedar> who's there?
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> joseph, You will be able to su in a command line and do whatever you want from there.
[10:47] <mysticyx> Does
[10:47] <mysticyx> hi?
[10:47] <sharn8> omg i need some help
[10:47] <Set> it seems I got 4.10
[10:47] <Set> is that new?
[10:47] <dieffel> hi! What kind of Web-editor do you recommend for Ubuntu/GNOME?
[10:47] <Blacken> gedit.
[10:47] <odat> kitty_, what happens when you go to sound and video then volume control?
[10:47] <pramz> joseph: at this point I dont believe you are looking for a solution to your issue but just arguing for the sake of argument (which isnt bad, just an observation).
[10:47] <_jason> dieffel, I ehar good things about nvu
[10:47] <sharn8> i have a big problem
[10:47] <trappist> joseph: configured, not hardcoded.  you can enable the root account by setting his password.  for most purposes it's not recommended, but it might not be a bad solution for you.
[10:47] <ninnghizidha> wanna have a wysiwyg-editor o r just aplain-text-editor?
[10:47] <odat> dieffel, nvu
[10:47] <_jason> ubotu, tell sharn8 about enter
[10:48] <TTilus> joseph: could sudo-chaining help?
[10:48] <dieffel> _jason, ok... how about Bluefish???
[10:48] <pramz> joseph: id the issue was administration you _could_ open a shell and su to root and run it under there
[10:48] <mysticyx> Does anyone know how to change the logg in pasword in ubunto hhh?
[10:48] <blue-frog> joseph, from non-admin session u su to your admin user then you sudo
[10:48] <_jason> dieffel, I hear good things about that too
[10:48] <mysticyx> and if yes
[10:48] <kitty_> a panel comes up
[10:48] <hkais> ninnghizidha: i will try my restart
[10:48] <odat> dieffel, NVU
[10:48] <mysticyx> please answer me :)
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> Do anyone know / have a link for how to create metapackages?
[10:48] <joseph> blue-frog: which requires dropping a console.  I want to click on menu item and have gui dialogue prompting for admin password
[10:48] <sharn8> when i start my pc up it starts grub then says error 17 and just stops
[10:48] <trappist> mysticyx: run 'passwd' in a console
[10:48] <TTilus> joseph: set everybody to be able to sudo to user Z and Z to root privileges and you only know "root" password for Z
[10:49] <TTilus> joseph: then sudo -u Z sudo yourthing
[10:49] <meepy> Nobody know how to change language in GNOME? :/
[10:49] <TTilus> joseph: (just a wild guess)
[10:49] <blue-frog> joseph, gksu
[10:49] <Blacken> meepy: Google is your friend.
[10:49] <joseph> blue-frog: gksu requires console command?
[10:49] <sharn8> i got help yesterday why cant i today?
[10:49] <joseph> blue-frog: what is gksu?
[10:49] <Blacken> sharn8: Google the damn thing. "grub error 17".
[10:50] <TTilus> joseph: and of course you can wrap that chaining inside one command
[10:50] <sharn8> good i dea
[10:50] <Blacken> sharn8: I just did and I got a very good answer from the top of the list.
[10:50] <odat> Blacken, here here
[10:50] <sharn8> ok illlook
[10:50] <odat> kitty_, ?
[10:50] <TTilus> joseph: its just another su
[10:50] <blue-frog> joseph, the thing you want..
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> meepy, System > Administration > Language Selector.
[10:50] <joseph> blue-frog: how is gksu different from su?
[10:50] <pramz> joseph: http://www.nongnu.org/gksu/
[10:50] <erUSUL> i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[10:50] <kitty_> the settings are all on... but it still doesnt work...
[10:50] <TTilus> joseph: graphical
[10:50] <blue-frog> joseph, man gksu
[10:51] <_jason> joseph, you may be able to edit the shortcut and add the '--user YOUR_ADMIN_USERNAME' switch.  Haven't tried this though
[10:51] <TTilus> joseph: in your case, its no different
[10:51] <greg> ok i'm having some problems i'm tring  to install the vmtools but it says i need to be on as su well I am lol but it keeps tellin me i'm not...
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, apt-get upgrade will always keep you with the newest versions of things.
[10:51] <joseph> blue-frog: but why would I want to gksu instead of regular su?
[10:52] <TTilus> joseph: i tell you, its no better than regular su in your case
[10:52] <thierry_> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[10:52] <bakkk> I am getting a configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH when I try to ./configure FCGI
[10:52] <blue-frog> joseph, you are the one bitching about icon and not terminal, you tell me..
[10:52] <TTilus> joseph: if i have understood you situation
[10:52] <bakkk> where is cc supposed to be?
[10:52] <joseph> TTilus: gksu just switches user like su?  or does it require a command like gksu synaptic admin
[10:52] <TTilus> joseph: how do you like that sudo-chain?
[10:52] <blue-frog> joseph, man gksu
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> bakkk: Do you have gcc installed?
[10:53] <pramz> TTilus: its not about the situation, its about the behavior, there is no right answer we can give him. At this point its his best interest to ask a developer rather than people in the irc channel
[10:53] <TTilus> joseph: switches user
[10:53] <odat> kitty_, any idea what kind of audio chip?
[10:53] <bakkk> tonyyarusso, I do