[03:08] <Flannel> fryguy: X has clients and servers.  You connect to a X client with an X server, and can run stuff on the client machine where its displayed on the server machine.
[03:08] <Ajuna> damn
[03:08] <Byrnison> The problem was that when I installed the kde meta-package, it pulled in dependencies I did not want. When I removed them, it also removed the kde meta-package, as dependencies ensured. The problem was that aptitude wanted to be "smart" and remove the other, "unnecessary" dependecies in addition.
[03:08] <After_Math> Can anyone tell me or give me a link to a good guide on how to install Windows after an Ubuntu installation?
[03:08] <fryguy> Flannel: right, so gnome doesn't HAVE an x client, it IS an X client, right?
[03:09] <Flannel> fryguy: No, gnome runs inside X on the client side.
[03:09] <fuxxy_> fryguy, gnome is a windowmanager that runs on top of an X server.
[03:09] <fryguy> fuxxy_: no it's not
[03:09] <Byrnison> fuxxy_: Gnome is a desktop environment, not a WM.
[03:09] <Frijolie> when you install something from a tarball, once it's installed is it safe to delete the newly created directory?
[03:09] <Byrnison> Frijolie: yes.
[03:09] <fryguy> Flannel: what client does it run inside of
[03:09] <Flannel> fryguy: What?
[03:09] <Flannel> fryguy: X
[03:10] <After_Math> !windows
[03:10] <zhan_zr> Frijolie: Yes
[03:10] <fryguy> Flannel: you just said it runs inside X on the client side.  Which client does it run inside of if it isn't an x client itself?
[03:10] <Frijolie> Byrnison: thanks
[03:10] <Byrnison> fryguy: Technically, Gnome is several programs. There is a program that draws the panels, a program that draws the background, and so on.
[03:10] <olskolirc> hey guys what program do we use such as Dreamweaver for M$ Windows?  anyone know?
[03:10] <Frijolie> zhan_zr: thanks
[03:10] <Byrnison> fryguy: An X client is merely any program making use of the GUI.
[03:10] <Byrnison> fryguy: Some of which are part of Gnome.
[03:10] <skylarS> olskolirc, html wysiwyg?
[03:10] <Out_Cold> olskolirc, kompozer is a WYSIWYG web developer app
[03:10] <Ajuna> So I have to calculate what 6GB is in MB to mark sure my swap isn't too small for suspend/hibernate?
[03:11] <oakmac1> What is the command to reload my hardware?  something involving udev?
[03:11] <musikgoat> Ajuna: 6x1024
[03:11] <fryguy> Byrnison: yes, i realize that, flannel seems to be suggesting something different, so I am seeking clarification (I use x clients on a remote x server on a daily basis, so i'm looking for some clarification here)
[03:11] <Ajuna> ah thanks
[03:11] <olskolirc> yes sKylarS
[03:11] <olskolirc> oh ok ty Out_Cold
[03:11] <Flannel> fryguy: with X, the "server" is run on the machine with the keyboard, mouse, monitor.  The clients are on the machine you're connecting to remotely (or not so remotely)
[03:11] <AstralSin> i just installed intrepid on my laptop but i get a grub error 15 on reboot, any known fixes for this?
[03:12] <fryguy> Flannel: yes, I understand that. So is gnome an x Client, or does it run inside of one like you suggested before?
[03:12] <musikgoat> heh
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> ok so I just downloaded the tar.gz file of alien, but how do I install it through terminal?
[03:13] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: download the deb, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/alien
[03:13] <jrib> Appl3Kork: throw it in the trash.  You don't need it.  In general, avoid alien
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> all the tutorials show how to install by doing sudo apt-get install alien, but I have no internet access, cause the drivers arent installed
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> ok
[03:13] <Appl3Kork> thanks
[03:13] <fryguy> Flannel: and how does this affect the interactions of things like xpra, xnest, xmove, and other compositing techniques of forwarding a client to another x server transparently?
[03:13] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: then just double click the deb
[03:14] <Appl3Kork> thanks Flannel
[03:14] <cpro> hey can any budy please tell me how to do video chat using google cat in ubuntu
[03:14] <panfist> fryguy any explanation for why large file transfer inevitably stop?
[03:15] <fryguy> no
[03:15] <oakmac1> I have an external sound card that will occasionally crash (it used to do this in Windows, so I know it's specific to this piece of hardware).  When I reset the sound card I have no sound in Ubuntu.  How can I tell Ubuntu to "reload" my hardware?
[03:15] <panfist> other than they complete lol
[03:15] <musikgoat> panfist: disk space?
[03:15] <panfist> musikgoat i dont think so, its 100GB onto 3TB
[03:15] <musikgoat> seemed too easy :-)
[03:16] <fryguy> Flannel: "gnome runs inside X on the client side."  can you clarify this statement?  I'm confused
[03:16] <panfist> can i get some more feedback by moving in the command line?
[03:16] <Appl3Kork> Flannel, I opened the deb file, and it says in red Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper
[03:16] <jrib> panfist: -v maybe?  check dmesg
[03:16] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: then you'll need to download debhelper too (if you look at that site, it lists the dependencies, should be two more clicks)
[03:17] <Appl3Kork> what are dependencies anyway?
[03:17] <jrib> Appl3Kork: things that are depended on
[03:17] <jrib> Appl3Kork: why do you need alien?
[03:18] <panfist> the last thing i see in dmesg is clean mount: [ 4432.022884] Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: md0
[03:18] <Flannel> cpro: Google Talk does audio through jingle (which is a protocol extension), jingle also supports video, so if google is using that, you may be able to use any of the number of clients that support jingle with varying degrees of success, there's a list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol)
[03:18] <After_Math> no one can give me info on how to install Windows? after installing Ubuntu?
[03:18] <jrib> !grub > after_math
[03:18] <panfist> aftermath the general rule is to always install ubuntu last
[03:19] <jrib> After_Math: install windows and then reinstall grub
[03:19] <genii-around> After_Math: It's usually done the other way round so you can boot both
[03:19] <cpro> Flannel thanks let me try
[03:19] <rww> After_Math: I've used http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm before and it worked for me
[03:19] <hillshum_> How do I connect to a server using a terminal?
[03:19] <After_Math> thanks jrib , genii-around I know, but I dont use windows, but I feel like playing WoW again so I want to install it again
[03:19] <Eulalia> In htop, my cpu is stuck at 100% :\
[03:19] <jrib> After_Math: apparently wow runs in wine
[03:19] <fryguy> hillshum_: how do you want to connect to a server? telnet? ssh? http? ftp?
[03:19] <Eulalia> Two of my programs are 60%+
[03:20] <Out_Cold> hillshum_, ssh x.x.x.x
[03:20] <After_Math> jrib, is it easy though?
[03:20] <Eulalia> And SIGTERM won't kill them :\
[03:20] <Eulalia> Nor will SIGKILL
[03:20] <jrib> After_Math: I don't know.  Check appdb.winehq.org
[03:20] <panfist> after_math you can resize your partitions in ubuntu, reinstall windows, then reinstall grub from the live cd to boot into your original ubuntu. or you can run wow in wine
[03:20] <jrib> !wow | After_Math
[03:20] <hillshum_> http i think (fileshare a home network
[03:20] <hillshum_> )
[03:20] <atarinox> Quick question: what are these app launchers that look like OSX? here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=91647&file1=91647-1.jpg&file2=91647-2.jpg&file3=&name=deviant+desktop+%5Boct.+08%5D
[03:20] <After_Math> thanks rww
[03:21] <After_Math> I guess I can try Wine again
[03:21] <Eulalia> Why can't I kill these programs?
[03:21] <Eulalia> :|
[03:21] <musikgoat> atarinox: i believe thats awn (avant window manager)
[03:21] <musikgoat> !awn | atarinox
[03:22] <rww> Eulalia: which processes are they?
[03:22] <zheng_> f
[03:22] <olskolirc> after i put all of my files in a folder, what is the command to turn it into an .iso?
[03:23] <fryguy> Flannel: "gnome runs inside X on the client side."  can you clarify this statement?  I'm confused
[03:24] <hillshum_> fryguy: i need to connect to a home network but the docs leave out some xfce stuff i need
[03:25] <musikgoat> olskolirc: is this just a data image olskolirc or do you plan to use it for video?
[03:25] <[T]ank> so I am trying to customize my livecd and am getting the following error when trying to make some changes: make: mkbootmsg: Command not found. make: *** [bootdir] Error 127
[03:25] <[T]ank> what am i missing
[03:25] <olskolirc> data musikgoat
[03:25] <[T]ank> google not helping at this point
[03:25] <heavy> how do i find out where apt-get installed files from a paackage?
[03:25] <ubuntu> Can any body help me installing my ubuntu 7.10
[03:25] <Flannel> heavy: dpkg -L package
[03:25] <musikgoat> olskolirc: you can use brasero for a gui, or dd for the terminal
[03:25] <fryguy> heavy: you can use dpkg -L (i think, review the manpage for switches) to list the contents of a package
[03:25] <musikgoat> olskolirc: which do you prefer?
[03:26] <Out_Cold> sure ubuntu what's up?
[03:26] <heavy> Flannel: fryguy: thanks guys
[03:26] <olskolirc> terminal
[03:26] <musikgoat> dd if=/location of=name.iso
[03:26] <musikgoat> olskolirc: ^^
[03:27] <olskolirc> oh im not making one right now musikgoat this is for future reference
[03:27] <olskolirc> in case i have to tonight
[03:27] <musikgoat> olskolirc: thats the command
[03:27] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[03:28] <FloridaGuy> everyone was right..uninstalling and reinstalling gnome...dident help the problem
[03:30] <subdolus> how can I find out what gfx drivers my install has for Xorg?
[03:30] <subdolus> ie, a list of abvailable drivers
[03:30] <subdolus> -b
[03:31] <Smegzor> I can't boot into the live session on one computer.  The only cd's that have worked are knoppix and puppy.  I need to disable lots of stuff.  What should I put in the boot options?  I have already tried the basics suggested by the cd.
[03:31] <xiooli> anybody knows how to change the theme of gnome at a system level?
[03:32] <idisjunction> Smegzor - does the computer have enough RAM?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu wiyhout booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu wiyhout booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu wiyhout booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <Appl3Kork> Flannel, everytime I go to open one of the deb files, it says it needs another deb file, and just keeps going?  Is there any other options to doing this?  I tried ethernet, but it's not connecting.
[03:32] <Smegzor> 256mb (barely)
[03:32] <idisjunction> Ubuntu needs 512
[03:32] <fryguy> Flannel: "gnome runs inside X on the client side."  can you clarify this statement?  I'm confused
[03:32] <Flannel> ubuntu: Yes.  Use the alternate CD
[03:32] <Flannel> fryguy: No, I won't.  Stop trolling.
[03:32] <fryguy> excuse me?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:32] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:33] <xiooli> anybody knows how to change the theme of gnome at a system level?
[03:33] <FloridaGuy> medacity installed..gnome-settings-daemon is installed.....gnome is reminding me of widows 98..2000...if i open xchat...then open a terminal...the terminal sits on top of xchat..and i cant get to it....the bat at the top of the windows that has the close (x) and the minamise is gone...
[03:33] <Smegzor> hmm..  will the alternate cd allow me to at least run a shell?  I want to get sshfs set up so I can scan the computer and fix all the virii on it.
[03:33] <Flannel> Smegzor: No, alternate CD is just an installer, no live system
[03:33] <fryguy> Flannel: I want to run gnome on a remote x server, and want to know what this X client I need to install is that you mention
[03:33] <idisjunction> Yes, you can run a shell from the alternate. You can install from it, too
[03:34] <idisjunction> Try a Xubuntu LiveCD first
[03:34] <fryguy> what just happened?
[03:34] <GeorgeAScott> im wanting to install on an old powermac g3.  do i have to download the ppc iso? or can i somehow use one of my other installers?
[03:34] <Smegzor> ok well i'll grab the alternate cd and give it a shot.  I could just boot into XP and scan from there but that wouldn't be cheating.
[03:34] <Dominik> can I upgrade/downgrade/swith from ubuntu to Xubuntu without reinstall?
[03:35] <Flannel> Dominik: you can.  install the xubuntu-desktop package to install xubuntu, if you want to remove Ubuntu, you can do that too.
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <Flannel> !purexfce | Dominik
[03:35] <idisjunction> Yes. sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <ubuntu> can i install ubuntu without booting from the live cd?
[03:35] <FloodBot3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <PseudoOne> uh
[03:35] <Dominik> Flannel: id like to be able to switch in log in session, I like gnome, but most of the time I prolly won't need it
[03:36] <Flannel> Dominik: right.  Then all you have to do is install xubuntu-desktop, and you'll be able to choose at GDM
[03:36] <Dominik> so I don't need synaptic manager, I just do install xubuntu-desktop?
[03:36] <Dominik> mhh, that sounds too easy
[03:36] <Flannel> Dominik: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will work, or you can use synaptic, or whatever your favorite package manager is
[03:37] <VPS|KDE> Flannel: why do most of chan ops on freenode stay deopped until needed? just curious
[03:37] <FloridaGuy> looks like i might have to go back to mint to get a working gnome
[03:37] <Flannel> Appl3Kork: It can't go too far, since alien doesn't depend on a whole lot.  Synaptic has the capability to generate a download script for all the packages needed, but I believe you'd (obviously) have to be connected at least once first, to get the list of everything
[03:38] <Dominik> ok, my swap partition turns off after every reboot, and also after hibernate/suspend, which causes my system to crash after resume, not enough mem... what do I do?
[03:38] <michelcias> hey there.. can anybody speak with me?
[03:38] <Flannel> VPS|KDE: Its freenode policy. http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml
[03:38] <VPS|KDE> ah ok
[03:38] <Guest95727> hey guys... just wondering if there is a shortcut key to minimize everything to see the desktop?????
[03:39] <[T]ank> anyone know how to get past that make error?
[03:39] <alex_> hey I am trying to install new v4l modules from this website (http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/How_to_build_from_Mercurial) and I am hanging up on this line (look in the Errata - Loading Modules section): "for file in `find /lib/modules -name "*.ko"`; do if  -e $file.gz ; then echo "$file.gz should be removed"; fi; done" only I get an error that says -e isn't a command. Can anyone translate this and figure out what I should add to fix this?
[03:40] <wene> is there someone that have 5 mins to loose with my mount problem ?
[03:40] <alex_> wene what's wrong
[03:40] <X4D> Hi, I'm trying to follow the instructions on this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking but when I restart the network I get failed to bind address already in use, what IP's should I use ?
[03:41] <jblack> Does anyone know of a new version of libgtkmm-2.4-dev coming in for intrepid? There's a pair of small bugs in the headers that have been fixed upstream back in august, that seem to still be present in intrepid (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkmm2.4/+bug/275397)
[03:41] <wene> i have changed the properties of a mounted partition and unmounted it. and now, i cannot mount it anymore because it tells me that there are bad characters int he mount point
[03:41] <alex_> what did you change
[03:42] <alex_> (what fs also)
[03:42] <DKPhoenix> can anyone help with an ati x850 driver issue in 8.10?
[03:43] <wene> i have a partition formated in fat and i mounted it with double clicking on the hard disk icon, and i have changed the properties
[03:43] <idisjunction> X4D - You shouldn't use the 10.10.x.x range listed if your router also operates in that range.
[03:43] <alex_> which properties did you change - title? flag?
[03:43] <alex_> did you change the name to something with punctuation or something other than basica alphanumeric characters?
[03:44] <n8tuser> X4D  can you paste your ifconfig -a  and /etc/network/interfaces contents?
[03:44] <Hilton> Has anyone heard any updates on the whole issue with Ubuntu 8.10 / ati driver / fglrx driver / R300-series cards?
[03:44] <jimmy01> where should i go to discuss ubuntu server edition?
[03:44] <DerFicker> Hi guys.How can I mount a s60 v2 phone via bt in linux?
[03:45] <DerFicker> actually ubuntu 8.04
[03:45] <wene> alex: in the "colume" tab i have changed "mount point" in "parameters"
[03:45] <wene> "volume"*
[03:45] <L33B> I have an issue, i cannot for the life of me figure out how to get my 1600x1050@60 hz to stick, any ideas?
[03:45] <alex_> wene from what to what
[03:45] <compu73rg33k> Where's the option in CompizConfig Settings Manager to stop from scrolling to the next desktop with the mouse wheel
[03:46] <compu73rg33k> very annoying especialy since when you get to a desktop with a window it stops the scrolling so its' a pretty useless feature
[03:46] <koops> 8.10 has a lot of problems with xserver... dont know whats going on there
[03:46] <ahughes> whats up with MythTV, does that only work with v7.10?
[03:46]  * arrogance is back.
[03:46] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[03:46] <Guest95727> hey guys... just wondering if there is a shortcut key to minimize everything to see the desktop?????
[03:46] <jimmy01> hey guys, what channel should i go to to discuss the server edition?
[03:46] <X4D> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d4bff77ff
[03:47] <compu73rg33k> Guest95727, if you install compizconfig-settings-manager you can configure that
[03:47] <compu73rg33k> I'm not sure if it's enabled by default though
[03:47] <alex_> compu73rg33k go to viewport switcher and the third tab
[03:47] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> here is okay
[03:47] <DerFicker> @<fryguy> its the button on the lower left that does the job
[03:47] <Guest95727> ohh ok
[03:47] <X4D> n8tuser: my first router uses <IP_ADDRESS> and the second is in <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <alex_> compu73rg33k disable move next and move prev
[03:47] <fsufitch_> hi. i'm using ubuntu 8.10 on a dell xps m1330. I can't burn CDs, as no matter what i do, when i put in a blank CD the computer never recognizes there is actually any media (full or blank) inserted. the same drive burned fine in hardy, and can also read CDs right now.
[03:47] <fryguy> DerFicker: ?
[03:47] <wene> alex: values were empty and i added /mnt/my-partition
[03:47] <DerFicker> opps sorry
[03:48] <DKPhoenix> is anyone else having problems with graphics drivers in 8.10?
[03:48] <Hilton> hmm
[03:48] <compu73rg33k> Thanks alex_
[03:48] <Hilton> Just a question: Can anyone see my lines?
[03:48] <alex_> wene did you mount as superuser
[03:48] <jimmy01> I want to set up a home server on an old desktop computer. Would it be easier to just install the Ubuntu desktop edition and configure it to be a server, or should I install the server edition??
[03:48] <n8tuser> X4D-> what do you mean you have a 2nd router? can you elaborate on your network layout?
[03:48] <jpablanche> what is the channel for java?
[03:48] <alex_> wene try and undo that  - normally nautilus should automatically mount volumes in the sidebar
[03:48] <onthefence9281> i'm having trouble with my java on ubuntu 8.04, how od i make sure i am running the latest java?
[03:48] <jpablanche> java channel is but registration required
[03:48] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> same difference really,
[03:48] <alex_> wene just click on it
[03:48] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it's best to install ubuntu server... because it won't have X Windows
[03:49] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> java -version should tell you
[03:49] <jimmy01> can I start X windows from terminal, i mean does it just not boot running x windows?
[03:49] <Smegzor> If I put wubi on the pc, does windows run in the background when I'm using wubi or is it more like a dual boot?
[03:49] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: are you ... comfortable... on the terminal?
[03:49] <jpablanche> the channel for java is required registratioon?
[03:49] <jimmy01> yes
[03:49] <n8tuser> jpablanche-> visit the nicer folks in undernet.org  much much nicer java people there
[03:49] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it doesn't install any of that stuff, at all
[03:49] <fryguy> jimmy01: it's not installed. you would have to install it afterwards if you wanted to use it
[03:49] <compu73rg33k> What's the difference between viewport switcher hotkeys and the Wall hotkeys?
[03:49] <compu73rg33k> I guess viewport switching bindings just wouldn't use the wall stuff?
[03:50] <jpablanche> ok ill try
[03:50] <jimmy01> ok, i see
[03:50] <onthefence9281> n8tuser: is openJDK 1.6.0 just as good as sun version? will they be detected the same by all programs/IDEs?
[03:50] <jimmy01> thanks a lot for the help guys!!!
[03:50] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but the server gurus suggest *strongly* that you refrain from using X windows on a server
[03:50] <jimmy01> because of the memomry and cpu usage??
[03:50] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: do you have a monitor to use while you install ubuntu server?
[03:50] <X4D> n8tuser: the first router <IP_ADDRESS> is connected to the telephone line and that connects directly to a WRT54GL <IP_ADDRESS> where the rest of the machines are connected to.
[03:50] <narothepharoh> Whats a good program to compress files so you can send through email?
[03:50] <fryguy> Flannel: can you help me? you were the one who guided me so far.
[03:50] <jimmy01> yes
[03:50] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> my experience with non sun java has been lots of hair pulling, id stick with sun java, if it was me
[03:50] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: no, it's more related to the ports and such that X windows utilizes, networkwise
[03:51] <jimmy01> why do ask about the monitor?
[03:51] <Flannel> fryguy: Please drop it.  You're not actually in need of support, and are only contributing to noise.
[03:51] <onthefence9281> n8tuser: ok i think i just installed teh sun version, how do i make it my default or w/e?
[03:51] <narothepharoh> Whats a good program to compress files so you can send through email?
[03:51] <fryguy> Flannel: I sure am in need of support. I stated my question above.  Is there a problem with my question?
[03:51] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you can't install the normal version of ubuntu server without one, because they don't enable serial access, or ssh access, via the normal installer
[03:51] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> use update-alternatives,  google for the instructions
[03:52] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but it is possible without, you would have to rebuild the cd, but since you have a monitor, it's not that big of a deal
[03:52] <n8tuser> X4D-> and does that config work?
[03:52] <narothepharoh> Whats a good program to compress files so you can send through email?
[03:52] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: just keep in mind, that if there is a problem, and you can't access it via ssh, that you'll have to plug in the monitor
[03:52] <jimmy01> so I have to install all of those capabilities after the install directly on the server terminal (using the monitor)
[03:52] <boobsbr> hi all! I would like to thank everyone a lot, because Intrepid helped me solve a problem I had with my video card drivers since Hardy. the power cable was disconnected from the video card and X/GDM diagnosed it. THANK YOU Ubuntu commmunity!!!
[03:52] <genii-around> narothepharoh: 7zip
[03:53] <n8tuser> !who
[03:53] <X4D> n8tuser: yes it's been working for the past 3 years perfectly
[03:53] <wene> alex: i can see it on the left side bar, but i dont have the properties anymore, i only have the "mount" option that is not working
[03:53] <sazma> I upgraded to 8.10 and now my flash plugin freezes after firefox has been up for a while. Works fine at first, and then gets all wonky. I've removed pulseaudio, install nonfree-flashplugin-extraaudio(or w/e) and I can't seem to make it work reliably... done a lot of googling and tried a lot of stuff. Anyone have any pointers?
[03:53] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: sort of, the best way is to install ssh-server via taskselect during the install
[03:53] <matthias> hi hiw do i install glibc and where do i get glibc, the repository and if so glibc-source or some where else ...
[03:53] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then, if you set up networking during the install, you should be able to reboot and ssh in there, and unplug the monitor
[03:53] <n8tuser> X4D-> somehow i missed the issue you are having? if any?
[03:53] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but this depends on all the networking of course,
[03:53] <jimmy01> nice.. sounds like a lot of fun
[03:53] <fryguy> matthias: you already have glibc installed
[03:54] <cishpix> narothepharoh: bzip is good and very small capacity
[03:54] <onthefence9281> n8tuser: thanks, that helped
[03:54] <n8tuser> X4D-> you guest is not able to access the internet?
[03:54] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it's possible to give yourself a serial back-door, but that requires a null-modem cable, and perhaps a usb-serial adapter if your motherboard doesn't have a direct 9-pin serial port
[03:54] <narothepharoh> genii-around: how can i get it? it wont install on terminal.
[03:54] <matthias> fryguy:  i tried dpkg -s glibc and tells me it is not installed ...
[03:54] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: or parallel port
[03:54] <onthefence9281> anyone know how well e17 works on ubuntu?
[03:54] <X4D> n8tuser: Well I followed the instructions on this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking and I get an error ~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:54] <X4D>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          Set 'vbox0' persistent and owned by uid 0
[03:54] <X4D> dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for fe80::80e3:4dff:feee:e552: Address already in use
[03:54] <X4D> Failed to bring up vbox0.
[03:54] <FloodBot3> X4D: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <jimmy01> it is an old HP desktop computer
[03:55] <n8tuser> onthefence9281-> you're welcome, good luck
[03:55] <jimmy01> I am unsure of the specs off hand.
[03:55] <genii-around> !info p7zip | narothepharoh
[03:55] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: i personally believe that a monitor should *never* need a monitor, it's not apropos for the situation, so i always go back and enable serial access all over the place
[03:55] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then again, i've been in situations when a monitor wasn'
[03:55] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: t available...
[03:55] <giacomo> I've just deleted the whole qt* group of packet and reinstalled vlc with the dependencies, same "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" . Anybody else has this problem
[03:56] <matthias> fryguy:  or how do i verify package installed and version, i am going to install my video card driver for ati mobility radeon x1400 ...
[03:56] <jimmy01> you sound very knowledgable rdw200169
[03:56] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: i mean, server need a monitor... heh
[03:56] <jimmy01> I want to use the server to tunnel to from school.
[03:56] <n8tuser> X4D-> what changed from the last 3 years that you said were working?
[03:56] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: check this out, it documents how to enable serial access if you wanna look into it: http://greamin.com/server/ServerGuide.html
[03:56] <jimmy01> We are blocked from things like IRC chat.
[03:56] <fryguy> matthias: i am unsure of that
[03:56] <X4D> I followed the guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBoxNetworking but I get an error dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for x... Address already in use
[03:57] <matthias> fryguy: ok
[03:57] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: whooops. http://greamin.com/server/server_guide.html
[03:57] <fryguy> matthias: maybe dpkg --get-selections? I dunno
[03:57] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: ah, that's easy, just use ssh tunneling
[03:57] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: over port 80
[03:57] <n8tuser> X4D-> dont you need to restart vbox also in priority perhaps?
[03:58] <X4D> n8tuser: when I restart the network, so I'm a little confused on what IP's I should set up in the interfaces file for vbox to connect
[03:58] <jimmy01> One more question rdw because you are so helpful.
[03:58] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: shoot
[03:58] <giacomo> I've just deleted the whole qt* group of packet and reinstalled vlc with the dependencies, same "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" . Anybody else has this problem ?
[03:58] <n8tuser> X4D-> what changed from the last 3 years that you said were working?  you added an interface?
[03:58] <jimmy01> I have a wireless router, and two computers on the network. I have to forward the SSH port in order to tunnel to one of my computers from school correct?
[03:59] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: yes,
[03:59] <X4D> n8tuser: no problems with my connections outside of Virtualbox, thing is Virtualbox is not connecting properly
[03:59] <jimmy01> any details on that process?
[03:59] <narothepharoh> genii-around: how do i run after installed? i cant find it anywhere
[03:59] <n8tuser> X4D-> inside your guest, check your route table
[04:00] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: there are several ways to approach this, the best is to get a free domain, or buy your own (godaddy.com) and set up a zonedns account for dynamic ip address update, then either use ddclient, or if your wireless router supports it, update your IP on the DNS server that way
[04:00] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: this gets you around the issue of dynamic ip assignment from the ISP
[04:00] <X4D> n8tuser: ok, will do, thanks
[04:01] <jimmy01> yes, that is the problem! this is great.. I use comcast. what is the ddclient?
[04:01] <Doitle2> I've encountered a bit of a problem with Ibex in VMware... I can get to the login screen, enter my username and password and then it accepts them and the screen goes a pinky salmon color and just hangs
[04:01] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then, you forward the port the ssh server is running on to the server, i.e. in this situation it would be port 80 to get around a restrictive firewall
[04:01] <Baatti> I need some help making my Atheros AR5007EG wireless LAN card work on Ubuntu 8.10
[04:01] <genii-around> narothepharoh: Fileroller should now have this format as an option
[04:01] <jpablanche> please tell me what java channel is the most reliable?
[04:01] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[04:01] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> and if you get caught, be ready to get kicked out of school?
[04:01] <matthias> anyone have an idea on how to get version of packages installed, tried dpkg but i am not sure if it is correct ...
[04:01] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you would test this from outside your home network by doing a $ ssh user@domain:80
[04:02] <Doitle2> ##java here on freenode is pretty good jpablanche
[04:02] <Baatti> matthias I've still not got it working
[04:02] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: it's unlikely unless their running some amazing proxy software, b/c ssh runs encrypted, incl. the tunnel
[04:02] <n8tuser> jpablanche-> you have not visited what i suggested earlier?
[04:02] <jpablanche> ##java is required registration
[04:02] <Doitle2> you just need to be identified with nickserv
[04:02] <jpablanche> yes its good
[04:02] <n8tuser> !who | jpablanche
[04:02] <Doitle2> I've found it to be a heck of a lot more helpful than #java on efnet
[04:02] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: so, for example, their layer 7 proxy, i.e. squid proxy or something like that, would have to catch a ssh tunnel
[04:02] <jpablanche> yes how to veriry and to be a member of nicksrv
[04:03] <jpablanche> verify
[04:03] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: but they wouldn't see the traffic
[04:03] <Baatti> I need some help making my Atheros AR5007EG wireless LAN card work on Ubuntu 8.10
[04:03] <matthias> Baatti:  no, still fighting, but i am going to reinstall the video card by using amd:s ovn driver instead of envy and go on from there and see what happens ...
[04:03] <jimmy01> sounds really great.. quite above my head
[04:03] <narothepharoh> genii-around: Fileroller? I dont have this.
[04:03] <jimmy01> so my main problem is getting around the dynamic ip addressing
[04:03] <jpablanche> cannot join registration is required how to register?
[04:03] <jimmy01> will the server help me with that problem?
[04:04] <Doitle2> jpablanche type /msg nickserv register
[04:04] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: in your situation, you don't really need a server
[04:04] <subdolus> how do I find out which hsync and vertfresh values I should use in xorg.conf ?
[04:04] <subdolus> short of finding my manual
[04:04] <n8tuser> jimmy01-> easy to find out, have a client connected to an irc channel, and just check the ip address :P
[04:04] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: an ubuntu desktop installation would easily do this task
[04:04] <jimmy01> well, i wanted to set up a permanent linux box at home
[04:04] <Doitle2> it should tell you you need some more parameters like an email and username or something. Just follow the directions it sends you and it should be fairly straight forward
[04:04] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: so you can do other stuff on it, than just tunneling internet access to a blocked network?
[04:04] <matthias> friends i found a way to verify package versions, the command from terminal is aptitud show <package name>
[04:04] <genii-around> narothepharoh: "Archive Manager"
[04:05] <jimmy01> what do you mean
[04:05] <jimmy01> run other programs or what
[04:05] <jimmy01> can the ssh control the entire computer
[04:05] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: other server stuff, like a webserver or fileserver or something
[04:05] <jimmy01> oh ok
[04:05] <uuuuuuuuu> what is a securty risk to have tcp packets in my network with source port 0?
[04:05] <n8tuser> matthias-> there is an option too in dpkg,  dpkg which is behind the apt* commands
[04:05] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: honestly, if you don't intend to push a lot of traffic, i.e. hundreds of hits on a webserver, a full server isn't technically necessary
[04:06] <jimmy01> ok
[04:06] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: then again, i run my normal desktop constantly, so i'm perhaps an exception
[04:06] <matthias> n8tuser:  ok
[04:06] <Anacranom> rdw200169_, take a look at this , would this work for jimmy01 ?  http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=66
[04:06] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: the point i'm making is that, if you're comfortable running your normal desktop while at school, or whatever, a server is kinda overkill
[04:06] <Dominik> how do I do swapon automatically on boot?
[04:06] <yaptop> hello all.  I'm having an issue where I have no sound at all and it's not just something simple like i have mute on.  does anyone have suggestions
[04:07] <hollanbm> hey all, is there anyway i can force a certain app to open on a certain workspace
[04:07] <jimmy01> ok, i think i might forget about the server and just set up an extra desktop computer to tunnel through then
[04:07] <blinkn1> hello
[04:07] <jimmy01> is that the idea
[04:07] <matthias> well boys let me get started and uninstall the existing video card driver and install amd:s own ..., see you in a while ...
[04:07] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: jimmy01: why would you set up an extra desktop?
[04:07] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: not really, ssh, on it'
[04:08] <lianimator> I have a very strange problem with a subtitles file srt. I cannot open it in gedit but the sub plays in VLC. when I open it in nano, it shows some weird symbols.. '^@' in between letters
[04:08] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: s own already does tunneling, it's one of the 'hidden' features, think of PuTTY tunneling which is more documented
[04:08] <rdw200169_> Anacranom: then we get into socks protocol, etc...
[04:08] <jimmy01> perhaps i am new and missing the idea, but I thought I need two computers, one at home and one at school
[04:08] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: ah, yes, of course, i see
[04:09] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: this of course requires 2 computers
[04:09] <jimmy01> use the school computer and tunnel through the home computer using ssh
[04:09] <jimmy01> both running desktop ubuntu
[04:09] <jimmy01> right?
[04:09] <Doitle2> Trying to tunnel around the packet shapers eh jimmy? :P
[04:09] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: yeah, kinda multipurpose, you're not going to do a lot of 'server' work, so you can dual-purpose your home desktop for
[04:10] <myk_robinson> hey. How do I reset desktop effects? It wont enable now, however I can run compiz-fuzion just fine.. Now when I boot, the desktop is running plain, and I have to manually enter "compiz --replace" twice
[04:10] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: a regular ubuntu usage
[04:10] <schnoowork> anyone know why the php5.load apache module doesnt have any of the AddType functions anymore. Its impossible to view php files without it :\
[04:10] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: yeah, compiz, when it crashes, defaults back to metacity
[04:10] <jimmy01> sounds good to me.. although i do want to get the server experience
[04:11] <jimmy01> Thanks so much for the help!
[04:11] <jimmy01> You guys are really knowledgable.
[04:11] <myk_robinson> rdw200169_: compiz works fine.. I messed around with the desktop effects thing in appearance, and now that is trying to take over apparently.
[04:11] <n8tuser> schnoowork-> ask the nice folks in #php perhaps? those are not ubuntu support questions
[04:11] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: you should check out the script in the /usr/bin/compiz, and perhaps edit accordingly
[04:11] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you can still operate a normal installation of ubuntu as a server
[04:11] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: i'm running a webserver on my desktop as we speak, i.e. greamin.com
[04:12] <jimmy01> really?
[04:12] <jimmy01> how does that work
[04:12] <jimmy01> or any webpages that detail the process
[04:12] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: easy, apt-get install apache2
[04:12] <jimmy01> ok
[04:12] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: of what, setting up a webserver?
[04:12] <jimmy01> i will look into it
[04:12] <jimmy01> yea
[04:12] <Maud> hey wassup?
[04:12] <jimmy01> apache2 does that then?
[04:13] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: you should check out the ubuntu server guide, it details a lot of the simple stuff of running a server
[04:13] <jimmy01> ok
[04:13] <rdw200169_> jimmy01: which is more than posible using ubuntu destkop
[04:13] <jimmy01> thanks
[04:13] <jimmy01> ok
[04:13] <jimmy01> great
[04:13] <FloodBot3> jimmy01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <freddy_engels> I'm trying to connect to an openWRT device via ssh, but after I login it immediately kicks me out. Is this likely a problem with the openWRT device or is there something clever I can do with ssh?
[04:14] <n8tuser> freddy_engels-> its in the remote end, the sshd settings there
[04:14] <freddy_engels> The command I am using is just "sudo ssh root@openWRT"
[04:14] <Cmclean> Just an open question..... How hard is it to run a webserver off a non-server Ubuntu computer? And will it be like renting space from a host?
[04:14] <IMfang> question: why does my internet connect at 512kbps, but I only get 62kbps download????
[04:14] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: compiz runs from that script, and sometimes it causes problems during the boot-up of grub
[04:14] <rdw200169_> myk_robinson: i mean gnome
[04:14] <freddy_engels> n8user: Any idea how I could change those settings, since I can't connect to it?
[04:14] <stickboy> if i upgrade to 8.10 through update manager, my files and settings are protected, correct?
[04:14] <schnoowork> n8tuser, im talking about the PHP which is in synaptic though :\. it should be whoever builds the php version for ubuntu
[04:14]  * Len1nbarracuda Hola
[04:15] <freddy_engels> stickboy: Yeah, but you should backup anyway.
[04:15] <rdw200169_> freddy_engels: you don't need to sudo that
[04:15] <myk_robinson> this didnt occur until i messed with "desktop effects" under appearance. Before, i had eveyrthing set fine using CCSM. not sure why it wont initialize properly now
[04:15] <n8tuser> freddy_engels-> you cant from the client side, you have to get in to the server side
[04:15] <Len1nbarracuda> alguna chica que use ubuntu
[04:15] <Len1nbarracuda> ?
[04:15] <IMfang> thanx for the help.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:15] <genii-around> !es | Len1nbarracuda
[04:15] <oldmuttonhead> Hi everyone!
[04:15] <Cmclean> Just an open question..... How hard is it to run a webserver off a non-server Ubuntu computer? And will it be like renting space from a host?
[04:15] <n8tuser> schnoowork-> you may get a clearer answer though if you are in the correct channel
[04:16] <seronis> cmclean:  10 minute easy
[04:16] <blinkn1> Imfang:its 512 kilobits per second and 62 kilobytes per seconds. 8bits make 1 byte
[04:16] <badfish69> is 'gdb pidgin | /home/myname/Desktop/pidgin.txt' an acceptable execution of this line?:    'gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee gdb-<program>.txt'     ?
[04:16] <Cmclean> seronis: And like a prof. hosting service?
[04:16] <Uplink> =/
[04:16] <seronis> 10 minutes will get apache, mysql, php up and running
[04:16] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: yeah, i was talking about this with jimmy01, and yes, it's simply a matter of installing apache, and all that, via apt-get
[04:16] <carbon_monoxide> !3gp
[04:16] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: i don't understand what you mean by 'renting space from a host'?
[04:17] <Cmclean> 1 sec
[04:17] <seronis> Cmclean: depends,  its a web server.  it will run web pages and handle php properly
[04:17] <Cmclean> oh ok
[04:17] <n8tuser> Cmclean-> but please do a tutorial on LAMPP so you get familiarized with what it takes to run such services
[04:17] <Cmclean> I want a home server to run like a normal webpage    www.cmclean.com            for example
[04:17] <J-_> Anyone know of a nice tutorial to install flash 10 in Hardy?
[04:17] <J-_> for 64bit?
[04:17] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: well, i do the same thing with greamin.com
[04:18] <Uplink> how do i delete cookies in my browser using JS?
[04:18] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: and i do it on ubuntu desktop, so i don't have to run another computer
[04:18] <Cmclean> And how hard is it to work with it? Like I HATE terminal code etc.
[04:18] <oldmuttonhead> Question:  I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on an old Asus Z71a notebook that I built awhile back.  It has an NVidia 6600 video card.  The resolution doesn't seem right.  It says it is 1280 x 800, but it is no where near that, I'm sure.
[04:18] <voox> is it possible to run ubuntu 64bit on an intel core duo? (laptop)
[04:18] <oldmuttonhead> I'm very new to Ubuntu.. not sure how to fix this
[04:19] <phoenix> test
[04:19] <mefistofeles> Hi, just wondering if there's a way to get fortran's g77 compiler in ubuntu intrepid 8.10, thanks
[04:19] <seronis> Cmclean:  work with what?   you edit your web pages the same way you would anywhere.   a text editor or WYSIWYG editor for the pages
[04:19] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: beyond setting up the correct permissions for where you store the webpages (i.e. web-data) and editting the apache files regarding where the sites are located and stuff, not a big deal
[04:19] <seronis> the isntructions are here    http://www.bluenoseddog.co.uk/2008/09/how-to-setup-a-test-ubuntu-webserver-lamp-in-10-minutes/
[04:19] <n8tuser> oldmuttonhead->  verify with   xdpyinfo
[04:19] <badfish69> how do i make gdb report on pidgin to /home/myname/Desktop/pidgin.txt in terminal?
[04:19] <Cmclean> thx
[04:19] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: if you really hate the terminal that much, you can run and manage an apache installation using webmin, but
[04:19] <giacomo> how can I "stop" ubuntu upgrading a certain package?
[04:19] <n8tuser> oldmuttonhead-> also  if you have   ddcprobe you can use that to verify
[04:19] <Cmclean> ah yes
[04:19] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: it's a bigger pain according to me
[04:20] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: i prefer doing it on the cmd line
[04:20] <phoenix> hi
[04:20] <Cmclean> also what's the diff between running on a server or a GUI? Speed?
[04:20] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: and, when you deal with things related to server stuff, it's often the case that the best way to get things done is on the terminal
[04:20] <n8tuser> badfish69-> gdb as in debugger?
[04:20] <badfish69> n8tuser: yes
[04:20] <zx> soft
[04:20] <oldmuttonhead> xdpyinfo says 1280 x 800
[04:20] <seronis> Cmclean: the webserver doesnt run with a gui.  its a  'service'
[04:20] <Cmclean> yes I know but like I=n00b
[04:20] <genii-around> Cmclean: The server kernel is also especially tweaked for serving
[04:20] <badfish69> n8tuser: having a constant crash problem with msn, would like to get it to the code monkeys
[04:20] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: this relates to the opinion held by most, if not all, server gurus that the command line is the most reliable and safe
[04:20] <Cmclean> i meant normal GUI version of 8.10
[04:21] <n8tuser> badfish69-> i dont know off hand, but i suggest man gdb
[04:21] <n8tuser> badfish69-> also you can use strace or ltrace to help you out too
[04:21] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[04:21] <seronis> Cmclean:  im using 8.10 desktop edition and have apache running.
[04:21] <mefistofeles> Hi, just wondering if there's a way to get fortran's g77 compiler in ubuntu intrepid 8.10, thanks
[04:21] <badfish69> 8.1 is out now?
[04:21] <Cmclean> yes
[04:21] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: yeah, that's what i'm talking about, the point i'm trying to make, is that there's no 'gtk' tool for administering an apache webserver
[04:21] <badfish69> cool
[04:21] <fryguy> badfish69: 8.10, yes
[04:21] <voox> can someone tell me if a laptop with core 2 duo can run the 64bit edition of Linux?
[04:22] <oldmuttonhead> The only reason why I think it's off is that websites don't really "fit" on my screen.
[04:22] <voox> *ubuntu
[04:22] <seronis> 8 = 2008,  10 = october
[04:22] <fryguy> voox: it can
[04:22] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> apt-cache search  fortran    see if anything shows up
[04:22] <bucket529> mefistofeles: g77 is already in the repos.
[04:22] <seronis> this == november.  so yes 8.10 is avialable
[04:22] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, bucket529 its not
[04:22] <kristofer> I've got a broadcom bcm4309 - it worked in feisty/gutsy with the bcm43xx driver, but now in intrepid it doesn't work with the new b43 driver. any ideas about it?
[04:22] <try2free> hi, how to make custom paper size available in wine?
[04:22] <NeoGeo64> I'm running 8.10 and it keeps forgetting my static IP settings, and to get online I have to reconfigure it at every boot.  Why?
[04:22] <bucket529> mefistofeles: Where are you seeing that it's not?
[04:22] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> then maybe in someone else's private repository, google for it?
[04:23] <J-_> How can I install flash 10 in Hardy 64bit?
[04:23] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: well, you can manually specify them in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:23] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, bucket529 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=g77&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[04:23] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: that would solve your problem!
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> heh the network mgr should work tho
[04:23] <komputes> J-_: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhflmkV3bhQ and for 64-bit  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-adobe-flash-10-on-a-64bit-ubuntu-8.04
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> im not one for hacking
[04:23] <NeoGeo64> i just wanna make it remember my settings
[04:23] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: *should* is the key work, i personally despise the NetworkManager
[04:23] <J-_> KoFish:  .....
[04:23] <bucket529> mefistofeles: Aha. It ended with Hardy. One sec...
[04:23] <J-_> whoops.
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> 8.04 had no problem
[04:24] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> apt-cache search  fortran    see if anything shows up, you were using g77.. try this
[04:24] <J-_> komputes:  ...thanks.
[04:24] <aaron_> Is this the right place to ask about gnome screenlets?
[04:24] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, bucket529 they say "use gfortran", but fotran 95 is not the same as 77. And some apps need 77 only. So Im kind of stuck
[04:24] <komputes> np
[04:24] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: NetworkManager is still in heavy development
[04:24] <Cmclean> Umm TOTALLY random but where is a good guide to IRC???
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> so why implement it then
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> seriously
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> it *doesnt* work
[04:24] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, I've tried, there is no g77 in intrepid
[04:24] <mefistofeles> at least on offical repos
[04:24] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: it's the best way to get wireless working right, wireless has always been notorious for being difficult, i.e. iwconfig
[04:24] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> then maybe you have to go back to using hardy or gutsy
[04:24] <NeoGeo64> im using wired
[04:24] <bucket529> mefistofeles: You can always download the g77 deb from Debian.
[04:25] <unique> cannot connect to ad hoc mod
[04:25] <unique> mode
[04:25] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: yeah, most of the work related to NetworkManager is related to wireless, it stinks for wired
[04:25] <mefistofeles> bucket529, debian doesnt have it as well, thats probably why ubuntu also doesnt
[04:25] <Cmclean> Um random complete guide to IRC?
[04:25] <n8tuser> unique-> if your driver does not support it, then it wont connect
[04:25] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: get some practice! do a 'man interfaces'
[04:25] <genii-around> fryguy: The client machine architecture basically dictates what X clients you can install on them. If *nix then the usal one. If Windows then something like Xming
[04:25] <L> d
[04:25] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, downgrade is not an option this time :S
[04:25] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: to learn how to edit the file
[04:26] <unique> dose the madwifi drivers support it?
[04:26] <L> #linux-quebec
[04:26] <Cmclean> like all commands and stuff
[04:26] <bucket529> mefistofeles: Hmm. It's showing in Debian stable. There's nothing in unstable, which may be why Intrepid didn't pick it up. Looking on Debian now...
[04:26] <rdw200169_> NeoGeo64: you can test the configuration using the cmd line tools, ifup, ifdown
[04:26] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> there is always SuSE and RedHat enterprise level
[04:26] <komputes> Cmclean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:26] <rdw200169_> Cmclean: just do a /help
[04:26] <fryguy> genii-around: the clients are running on *nix.  What is this X client I need to install so that gnome can run on a remote x server?
[04:26] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, oh no hehehe, actually I just cant reinstall anything... I'd try to compile g77 from source (if possible)
[04:27] <tsedreyt> hi, can some help me with a problem with "dpkg: --set-selections does not take any argument"
[04:27] <drone_> does anyone know how I can print a page of labels that aren't all the same with Glabels?
[04:27] <drone_> I looked for an option but couldn't find it
[04:27] <matthias> hi what does POSIX mean and how do i install it ...
[04:27] <genii-around> fryguy: The X client is just X itself. So you already have it if they have have some kind of desktop already
[04:27] <rdw200169_> matthias: posix isn't an application, it's a standard
[04:27] <NeoGeo64> well i wont be using 8.10 since it cant even remember my settings
[04:27] <Gubernur_> net 7000
[04:27] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> just curious, what project are you using fortran for?
[04:27] <JaHSon> wazzaaaa
[04:28] <fryguy> so I have to run X on the client?  How do I run that? startx or something?
[04:28] <thomasite> Hello. How do I know if OpenOffice 3.0 is already 'supported' by Ubuntu?
[04:28] <Cmclean> Should be
[04:28] <JaHSon> MR IRIZARRY
[04:28] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, Center of Wave Phenomena... http://timna.mines.edu/cwpcodes/index.html
[04:29] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[04:29] <tsedreyt> " and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:29] <jpruss> Hey, I enabled 3d mode in KDE, and now I can't turn it off, can anyone give me any tip how to reset KDE to defaults via terminal? (as KDE is currently unusable in its state)
[04:29] <matthias> rdw200169_:  than what does  it stand for, when i am installing the amd video driver for my video car it fails and have some of version problem and POSIX gets into my head, what does POSIX stands for ...
[04:29] <JaHSon> mr irirzarrrrrrry
[04:29] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> i asked because i have not used that since 86..hehe
[04:29] <bucket529> mefistofeles: Will http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/g77/download work?
[04:29] <Cmclean> Can someone go through wifi setup??? sorry Uplink :(
[04:29] <eirizarry1974> yo JahSON whats good
[04:30] <Uplink> Cmclean: yea i was gonna help you yesterday =/
[04:30] <JaHSon> waz goooody
[04:30] <usser> jpruss, just remove ~/.kde and ~/.kde4
[04:30] <jpruss> usser: thanks
[04:30] <kristofer> why don't I get any scan results from sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:30] <mefistofeles> bucket529, I'll try, but tomorrow, since it's a machine from the campus
[04:30] <matthias> rdw200169_:  it says the follwong software needs to be installed POSIX shared memory ...
[04:30] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, still widely used
[04:30] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, though bit underground
[04:31] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> i know, just like cobol perhaps? hehe
[04:31] <[T]ank> getting a make error says: make: mkbootmsg: Command not found
[04:31] <[T]ank> cant figure out what package i need. please help
[04:31] <Cmclean> Umm wifi run through? My thing doesn't work normally or I'm just "special"
[04:31] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, not sure, but no one beats fortran in numerical methods yet :P
[04:31] <unique> dose anyone know of any speech Recognition for ubuntu?
[04:32] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:32] <fryguy> genii-around: sorry I didn't prepend your name to my previous statement, did you see it?
[04:32] <n8tuser> mefistofeles-> yeah the good ole days.. hehe
[04:32] <mefistofeles> n8tuser, hehe yeah
[04:32] <komputes> Cmclean: thats the ubuntu channels sorry - for the commands, http://www.greenday.net/chat/commands.html
[04:32] <gaara> any1 know how to add iso of interpid into the repository?
[04:32] <J-_> gah, firefox seriously is at a standstill now. won't let me click anything after install flash 10 in hardy. :(
[04:32] <Dominik> my system is freezing up with IOWaits again, I still have 60 megs of ram free, and swap is not in use, what do I do I can hardly type?
[04:32] <Nubbie> unique: there is one program, it's a panel applet, i'm not sure how effective it is though.
[04:32] <mefistofeles> gaara, I thoink you could mount it and do apt-cdrom
[04:33] <komputes> gaara: what do you mean?
[04:33] <subdolus> how can I check what my vertical refresh and sync and stuff in console?
[04:33] <subdolus> for my monitor
[04:33] <gaara> i tried mounting it
[04:33] <gaara> and adding as cd rom in the sources
[04:33] <jimmy01> hey guys, is there a way to close or even kill x-windows in ubuntu desktop version and just use linux from the terminal?
[04:34] <gaara> but that basically unmounts and mounts back again...but since there is not actual dvd it gives anb error
[04:34] <jimmy01> and then how to restart x windows from the terminal
[04:34] <genii-around> fryguy: For remote, you might want to look into xdmcp
[04:34] <fryguy> jimmy01: /etc/init.d/gdm stop will accomplish what you want
[04:34] <thomasite> Hello. How do I know if OpenOffice3.0 is already supported by Ubuntu? Thanks!
[04:34] <sri> howdy
[04:34] <fryguy> genii-around: I do not want to forward a display manager, just gnome
[04:34] <jimmy01> thanks a lot fryguy
[04:34] <sri> how do I get packages for ffmpeg that supports aac and xvid?
[04:34] <jimmy01> how about hot to restart the xwindow
[04:34] <sri> it looks  like the default intrepid doesn't have it.
[04:34] <fryguy> genii-around: how do I start X client to do this?  Do i run startx ?
[04:34] <sri> I looked at this page:http://www.digitalself.org/2008/10/31/ffmpeg-with-xvid-h264-and-libfaac-on-ubuntu-intrepid/
[04:34] <komputes> gaara: when you mounted the CDROM it did not prompt you to install packages
[04:35] <komputes> gaara: where did you mount it?
[04:35] <sri> but it failed on apt-get source ffmpeg
[04:35] <tsedreyt> Hi, I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks.
[04:35] <Doitle2> Any thoughts on my hang after login problem with Ibex in vmware?
[04:35] <gaara> komputes: mounted it in /media/cdrom
[04:35] <les> sri:  you'll need the source repos enabled to get the soruce
[04:35] <genii-around> fryguy: Just running X will not allow it to use apps from another box.
[04:35] <fryguy> genii-around: what steps must I take to make this possible
[04:35] <sri> les: ok, I have it for mediabuntu, but I guess not for the others. let me check
[04:36] <kanhiya78>  please anyone one of you solve my screen resolution  problem ; my laptop is able to produce resolution up to 1280x? but using ubuntu ; maximum resolution available is 800x600 ; please anybody help me  and i am new to linux and using it from last two weeks
[04:36] <komputes> gaara: are you using desktop or server edition?
[04:36] <unique> i wonder if there is somthing where you can set voice commands to run preset commands...
[04:36] <gaara> desktop
[04:36] <Dominik> what causes IOWaits and what are they?
[04:36] <komputes> gaara: so you see it on your desktop
[04:36] <sri> les: what line are we looking for I have a deb-src for archive.us intrepid main restricted
[04:36] <jpruss> usser: how do I delete dirs ?
[04:36] <needhelpnoob> Hi everyone
[04:37] <Cmclean> Uplink: sry Pidgin crashed
[04:37] <needhelpnoob> I have a problem resizing my partition using gparted
[04:37] <Uplink> Cmclean: dont use pidgin for IRC... use xchat :)
[04:37] <residentskitz> hey everybody.  i cant connect to my router or internet in ubuntu, but it works fine in xp.  i have my network connections set to DHCP (Auto) and nothing else set, and it is a wired connection.
[04:37] <bucket529> mefistofeles: You're right - g77 support in Debian was dropped in favor of gfortran. That's another reason it's not in Intrepid. Source: http://wiki.debian.org/GfortranTransition
[04:37] <les> sri: add universe and multiverse to that list
[04:37] <Cmclean> Uplink: Why?
[04:37] <fryguy> genii-around: someone else mentioned tunneling through ssh.  I see the -X option in the manpage for ssh.  Can I start X on the client and connect to the X server this way?  If so, how do I start X on the client?
[04:37] <kanhiya78>  please anyone one of you solve my screen resolution  problem ; my laptop is able to produce resolution up to 1280x? but using ubuntu ; maximum resolution available is 800x600 ; please anybody help me  and i am new to linux and using it from last two weeks
[04:37] <Uplink> Cmclean: just do it :p dont ask
[04:37] <les> sri:  just after the main/restricted is fine
[04:37] <Cmclean> Uplink: Ok dling now
[04:37] <mefistofeles> bucket529, yeah, :( too bad
[04:37] <Uplink> Cmclean: kk good boy
[04:37] <komputes> gaara:  when you mounted it, did it not prompt you to install packages from the cd (perhaps it said add-on cd)?
[04:37] <WelshDragon> lol Uplink
[04:38] <cmdrsmith> HELP:: I LOST MY NETWORK MANAGER ICON IN THE TOP RIGHT
[04:38] <Cmclean> me too
[04:38] <cmdrsmith> CAN ANYONE HELP ME
[04:38] <sri> les: thanks I will check that.
[04:38] <Cmclean> me too
[04:38] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to tell me if it's possible to burn a DVD while using ubuntu livecd?
[04:38] <Uplink> WelshDragon: lol ;D
[04:38] <sri> cmdrsmith: first, turn off your caps lock.
[04:38] <komputes> Cmclean: the interface in pidgin is not very good for IRC, but if you only like joining one channel it may be ok, but X-Chat has many more options.
[04:38] <gaara> komputes: no it did not ask me to install packages from cd...the dvd is basically the ubuntu8.10 dvd...
[04:38] <sri> cmdrsmith: it creates a bad  first impression, it's like someone coming into the room and shouting.
[04:39] <jpruss> usser: how do I delete a folder with files in it via console?
[04:39] <Cmclean> Umm Xchat IRC or Xchat-GNOME Irc?
[04:39] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to tell me if it's possible to burn a DVD while using ubuntu livecd?
[04:39] <cmdrsmith> sorry but i am freaking out
[04:39] <bucket529> mefistofeles: With the g77n deb, you should -in theory- be good until you need something that depends on gfortran...or until it get uninstalled by your next release update.
[04:39] <genii-around> fryguy: If you have X forwarding enabled in your ssh on the server you can just do the startx inside an ssh session
[04:39] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:39] <WelshDragon> Cmclean, xchat
[04:39] <gaara> i've installed ubuntu from the cd...and now i want to add the dvd as the repository....thru an iso image....mounting it does not do anything
[04:39] <Cmclean> kk thx
[04:39] <sri> cmdrsmith: see if you have nm-applet running.
[04:39] <cmdrsmith> how i am brand new
[04:40] <sri> cmdrsmith: that's the gui part
[04:40] <usser> jpruss, rm -r /foldername
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to tell me if it's possible to burn a DVD while using ubuntu livecd?
[04:40] <fryguy> genii-around: don't I need to start X on the client before I can run x clients on the x server??
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> and if so how?
[04:40] <kanhiya78> can anyone of you solve my display problem
[04:40] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: Why?
[04:40] <kanhiya78> means screen resolution
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> cause i grub is screwed up
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> and i cant boot into ubuntu
[04:40] <caiphn> Does anyone know how I restart my wireless? Like reconnect to it? It's disappeared from the top right, not sure how I restart it.
[04:40] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: bad burn?
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> plus i installed ubuntu within windows
[04:40] <needhelpnoob> so i can reinstall grub
[04:41] <[T]ank> looks to me like i have mkboot on my computer... do i need to edit a path or something to make this work?
[04:41] <[T]ank> /usr/sbin/mkboot
[04:41] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: like Virtualization?
[04:41] <fryguy> genii-around: startx (according to the manpage) is just a wrapper for xinit which "is used to start the X Window  System server"  I don't want to run a server on the client, i'm already running the server on the server
[04:41] <Guido> hello
[04:41] <genii-around> fryguy: The basic Q is if you want the server to be running the X and then sending the result to your remote box, or if you want X to be running on the client and just forwarding the X app from the server to it
[04:41] <cmdrsmith> ok so any suggestions?
[04:41] <Guido> <---noob and I need help
[04:41] <kanhiya78> how to get highr resolution
[04:41] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: Tryusing Wubi it like installs Ubuntu through Windows
[04:41] <needhelpnoob> Cmclean: no i installed ubuntu for dual boot within windows
[04:41] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: oh ok
[04:41] <tsedreyt> Hey can anyone help me out with a terminal command? I am kind of stuck....
[04:41] <needhelpnoob> Cmclean:  i dont have windows atm
[04:41] <Dominik> lol im hitting the x on the ff3 window but it just doesn't do anything
[04:42] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, what's the problem?
[04:42] <kanhiya78> my graphics card is sis mirage 3 graphics
[04:42] <fryguy> genii-around: I want to be running the X server on the machine that it belongs on, namely the one with the display and input devices
[04:42] <needhelpnoob> Cmclean:  im trying to repartition my drive and format the partition with a virus on it
[04:42] <usser> tsedreyt, shoot
[04:42] <Guest87642> ok first how do I identify so I can keep my name
[04:42] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm getting the following error when trying to play a cd in rhytmbox, any suggestoins? : "gstream error. state change failed"
[04:42] <tsedreyt> Thanks, I just did a clean install
[04:42] <caiphn> Is it a service I need to restart or how does it work?
[04:42] <Dominik> update: a gmail script was causeing trouble
[04:42] <Cmclean> needhelpnoob: I don't know about partitioning sry
[04:42] <caiphn> Anyone?
[04:42] <komputes> gaara: To add CD-ROM to sources.list, issue the following command: $ sudo apt-cdrom add
[04:42] <tsedreyt> and I saved my programs in a dpkg package
[04:42] <cmdrsmith> so any ideas on how to get that back
[04:42] <tsedreyt> So I am trying to load my programs, I run "sudo dpkg --set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade" and get that --set-selections does not take any argument, what am I going wrong? Thanks for the help.
[04:42] <cmdrsmith> i tried the nm-applet
[04:42] <komputes> gaara: the run sudo apt-get update
[04:43] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: use gparted to format your drive
[04:43] <jimclassic> hello
[04:43] <fryguy> genii-around: and I want X clients to connect to this server.  How do I start X on the clients to make this happen?
[04:43] <kanhiya78> i think nobody is listening to me
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> anyone know how to burn a DVD while booted into a livecd?
[04:43] <ezzieyguywuf> lol needhelpnoob you can't do that
[04:43] <Guest87642> Can anyone tell me how to "identify" when I get here so I can keep my name?
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  why?
[04:43] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: do you have two DVD drives? :P
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> yes i do
[04:43] <needhelpnoob> but it wouldnt let me do it
[04:43] <Flannel> !register > Guest87642
[04:43] <fryguy> Guest87642: /msg nickserv help and that should walk you through the basics of getting your nickname set up on this server
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> im guessing since the livecd uses ram
[04:44] <tsedreyt> Usser or WelshDragon : any ideas?
[04:44] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: because the livecd is already in your cd-drive and needs to remain there for the os to remain running, so you can't insert a blank disc
[04:44] <les> Guest87642: /msg nickserv help register
[04:44] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, try "sudo dpkg --set-selections < /home/package.selections
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  i have a 2nd dvd writer though
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  but when i try to write it comes up with an error
[04:44] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: oh, in that case just connect it and you should be good. it might take a while though
[04:44] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob; what error?
[04:44] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: whats the error
[04:44] <needhelpnoob> let me check
[04:44] <genii-around> fryguy: You can run X on a headless box and forward the results to a machine which is not headless. The work is done on the headless server. You can also run an X server on the client which then remotely stored X apps from the server can be shunted to and ran. etc etc
[04:45] <usser> tsedreyt, never done that hang on i'll check how it works
[04:45] <ezzieyguywuf> can anyone help my with my rhytmbox problem? i try to play a CD and get the following error : gstreamer error, state change failed
[04:45] <cmdrsmith> I cant get back my Network icon for the networks
[04:45] <cmdrsmith> can anyone help
[04:45] <tsedreyt> thanks guys
[04:45] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, Did that work?
[04:45] <fryguy> genii-around: the X client runs on the headless box, and forwards the result to an X server that has a display and input devices.  How do I start X client on the headless box so that gnome can run inside of it
[04:45] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  it just says there was an error writing to disk
[04:45] <freddy_engels> cmdrsmith, what do you mean?
[04:45] <exmachina> ugh wtf it seems like all .exes on my mounted  dvd iso is a "BAD EXE" format
[04:46] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob:  probably its not a writable disk then?
[04:46] <joanki123> i'm using ubuntu and my printer suddenly stopped printing - any help? suggestions?
[04:46] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  nope, ubuntu is detecting it as a writable disk
[04:46] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: is there a paper jam?
[04:46] <tsedreyt> yeah that + the othre half of my command worked, thanks a lot welshdragon
[04:46] <tsedreyt> and thanks usser for the thought
[04:46] <tsedreyt> I really appreciate it guys
[04:46] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  and i set it to write on my 2nd dvd writer
[04:46] <joanki123> no, my printer icon doesnn't even come up ezzieyguywuf
[04:46] <WelshDragon> tsedreyt, Cool, you're welcome =)
[04:46] <ezzieyguywuf> needhelpnoob: i'm sorry then, i don't know what the problem might be
[04:46] <freddy_engels> cmdrsmith, if you mean there is no NetworkManager icon, you can easily add it back by right-clicking the panel and finding it
[04:46] <joanki123> the one that normally does when i print something
[04:46] <needhelpnoob> ezzieyguywuf:  could it be something to do with the fact that livecd is loaded on ram and has no temp file to use?
[04:47] <cmdrsmith> freddy it aint there
[04:47] <ezzieyguywuf> eh, it could very well be
[04:47] <joanki123> ezzieyguywuf, any suggestions?
[04:47] <usser> tsedreyt, try that cat  /home/package.selections | sudo dpkg --set-selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[04:47] <cmdrsmith> it gives me some othere stuff
[04:47] <caiphn> Does anyone know how I restart my wireless? Like reconnect to it? It's disappeared from the top right, not sure how I restart it.
[04:47] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: That seems possible.
[04:47] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: hm... system>>administration>>printing then select new and try to add it manually?
[04:47] <mindrape> caiphn - sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid yourssid                sudo dhclient wlan0
[04:47] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  you know how i could get around that?
[04:47] <jimclassic> how can i get xipmsg in ubuntu
[04:47] <Dominik> hi I just changed to an xfce session, how come my taskbars are different, and can I no longer use the same gnome applets?
[04:48] <joanki123> ezzieyguywuf, but it was working just earlier today?
[04:48] <cmdrsmith> i cant see what network i am on
[04:48] <cmdrsmith> this is bad
[04:48] <ezzieyguywuf> Dominik: its because your in xfce, which is not gnome. does that make sense?
[04:48] <mindrape> Dominik - well... the obvious answer would be gnome is not xfce
[04:48] <akahig1> got a partitioning issue that I need to fix and I need some advice... my boot partition is too small to upgrade to Ibex.  I have the space to delete the fs then recreate it larger (from the live CD), but I don't know how to reinstall grub and get everything back working again...
[04:48] <joanki123> WEIRD i printed a testpage, ezzieyguywuf and that works, but ooffice won't print
[04:48] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: oh...weird. maybe your usb cable is bunk?
[04:48] <mindrape> cmdrsmith - sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:48] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, Maybe try a different liveCD distro? knoppix or puppylinux would maybe be good
[04:48] <fryguy> genii-around: or is gnome itself (specifically gnome-session), an X client that implements the X protocol, and there is no need to run an X client around gnome, and whoever told me so was wrong?
[04:48] <Dominik> ezzieguywuf: so my desktop settings are completly different too?
[04:48] <joanki123> it works , ezzieyguywuf for the test page
[04:48] <ezzieyguywuf> joanki123: wow, that is weird.
[04:48] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  i would but atm i dont have any other OS to write a dvd with
[04:49] <mindrape> Dominik: basically, yes... it's a different desktop environment.
[04:49] <fryguy> genii-around: is gnome an X client, or does it run inside of one?
[04:49] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: do you know how i can delete windows folders? i tried using rm -rf and it woudlnt let me
[04:49] <GuidoGTP> Thank you for the help on registering my nick
[04:49] <Dominik> mindrape: don't quite understand that concept, but xfce is amazing fast :)
[04:49] <thiebaude> !x
[04:49] <ezzieyguywuf> Dominik: what do you mean? i'm trying to say that its a different desktop environment which uses different settings, so your gnome settings won't work. it has its own way of displaying bars etccc and the gnome-applets won't work (i don't think)
[04:49] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, you could try writing damn smalll linux to a USB drive and try burning the CD from there?
[04:49] <mindrape> Dominik - XFCE is like a stripped down Gnome or KDE.  If you want even faster than that you can go for fluxbox.
[04:50] <fryguy> thiebaude: we are talking about remote X servers, that factoid isn't applicable here.
[04:50] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  thanks for the suggestion.. i may try it out
[04:50] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, did it give an error message?
[04:50] <usser> Dominik, or openbox
[04:50] <Dominik> mindrape: fluxbox, is that for ubuntu?
[04:50] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  i'll paste in a second. one moment
[04:50] <Dominik> mindrape: sorry I have been linux user for 3 days
[04:50] <ezzieyguywuf> i cannot for the life of me get rhytmbox to play a cd can someone PLEASE help me! i desperately want to listen to this clapton album :-d
[04:50] <thiebaude> yup,i use it, dominik
[04:50] <Dominik> thlebaude: whats the install command?
[04:50] <GuidoGTP> Anyone know if I can use my DYNEX wireless network adapter with ubuntu.... I just installed it and would like to get onto the internet...
[04:51] <thiebaude> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[04:51] <mindrape> Dominik - fluxbox, openbox, icewm... there are differences between Desktop Environments (XFCE, Gnome, KDE and now enlightenment) and Window Managers (icewm, fluxbox, openbox, etc)
[04:51] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: this is what i get: rm: cannot remove directory `/media/disk/WINDOWS1/assembly/GAC_32/System.EnterpriseServices/<IP_ADDRESS>__b03f5f7f11d50a3a': Operation not supported
[04:51] <caiphn> mindrape: It stated back "unknown hardware address type 801, and the wireless icon in the top right did not re-appear. The essid, is that a value I'm supposed to put in or is it just essid?
[04:51] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: basically "operation not supported"
[04:51] <mindrape> caiphn - man iwconfig       it will tell you the paramters you can pass.
[04:51] <freddy_engels> what kind of filesystem is the windows partition? FAT32 or NTFS?
[04:51] <Dominik> mindrape: thanks, makes sense
[04:51] <FloridaGuy> i figured out my problem....metacity was segfaulting....reinstalled it....restarted it....now my themes only work halfway....panel..menu dont them..windows do
[04:51] <needhelpnoob> NTFS
[04:52] <mindrape> caiphn - sudo ifconfig            do you have a wlan0 or is your wmaster0?
[04:52] <caiphn> Sorry, I'm new to this, I don't know.
[04:52] <caiphn> I'll check with that.\
[04:52] <needhelpnoob> any ideas?
[04:52] <mindrape> caiphn - pull up an xterm and type that command in.
[04:52] <cmdrsmith> if i put in the command nm-applet -enable
[04:53] <caiphn> I have both a wlan0 and a wmaster0
[04:53] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, Do you have read and write permissions?
[04:53] <Dominik> ok guys, when I was in gnome I could switch work spaces with my mousewheel, can I enable such a feature in xubuntu, or am I out of luck?
[04:53] <caiphn> My problem is that after 10 minutes, my wireless drops, and I haver to reboot. I was just wondering if there was a manual way to turn it back on.
[04:53] <caiphn> Everytime I reboot, it works for 10'ish minutes.
[04:53] <gluonman> I'm trying to follow synergy configuration instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto and I'm stuck where I'm supposed to start the server after creating .synergy.conf. The terminal output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/71195/
[04:53] <caiphn> I just installed the OS today.
[04:53] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  yes i do
[04:54] <kanhiya78> 1344 people in the room and no one is here to answer my question
[04:54] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  it let me delete the majority of the folder. just a few that i suspect have windows viruses in them
[04:54] <mindrape> Dominik - go read up on the XFCE, Gnome, and KDE sites... each of them have different features and have various levels of configurability... pick the one that works for you.  You can also go to their channels #XFCE, #Gnome, #KDE and ask more detailed questions or get specific help.
[04:54] <caiphn> I have a wlan0:avahi and wmaster0
[04:54] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob:Hm...
[04:55] <kanhiya78> this is community
[04:55] <freddy_engels> The files you suspect are viruses are not getting deleted?
[04:55] <psynophile> Here's my question: I have an eSATA controller installed in a PCI-E slot. When I try to boot the machine, ubuntu doesn't detect ANY drives, not even /dev/sda. Same thing happens with the boot/install/live disk. Thing is, if i turn the RAID box that I have attached to the eSATA controller OFF, then ubuntu works fine. When I turn it on after ubuntu is loaded, then it detects all of the drives. Help?
[04:55] <mindrape> caiphn - pull open an xterm and run            tail -f /var/log/messages    .... leave it open and watch for the next time your wireless fails.
[04:55] <mindrape> caiphn - also... pull open an xterm and type dmesg          see if you get hardware failures in there too.
[04:55] <Dominik> mindrape: im running on 460 megs and 800 mhz, I need very light environment
[04:55] <mindrape> caiphn - you will need sudo in front of the tail -f command.
[04:56] <thiebaude> kanhiya78:if someone knows the answer to your question they will have an answer
[04:56] <mindrape> Dominik - well then go with a no frills window manager but don't complain about its lack of features.
[04:56] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  yes
[04:56] <myles7897> help, my times font is messed up. I've tried reinstalling msttcorefonts and nothing.   Do you mean 512mb?
[04:57] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: like what? lol im inexperienced with ubuntu xD
[04:57] <unfo> myles7897: why do you need Times New Roman?  :)
[04:57] <alex_mayorga> hi, the wireless card associates to my access point just fine, but then I can't ping the router or any website, can anyone help, please?
[04:57] <myles7897> unfo, school
[04:57] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: i can rename them
[04:57] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: if that counts as an operation
[04:58] <fryguy> thiebaude: how is that possible?
[04:58] <abchirk> thiebaude and what is with xfce4. has fluxbox more settings then xfce4? I miss on xfce4 e.g. the drag&drop options
[04:58] <unfo> myles7897:  I don't understand.
[04:58] <abortd> fluxbox is just a window manager right?
[04:58] <kanhiya78> how to find what graphics card i am using
[04:58] <mindrape> alex_mayorga: sudo ifconfig... what is your IP?  Did you grab a 169.x.x.x address?
[04:58] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: what does "ls -l" say?
[04:58] <myles7897> unfo, ,my school requires times new roman font. unless you know of a font that looks pretty much the same...
[04:58] <thiebaude> fryguy:all the programs i have on gnome i run in fluxbox
[04:58] <unfo> kanhiya78:  why do you want to know?  :)
[04:58] <abchirk> kanhiya78 lspci | grep vga
[04:58] <psynophile> unfo: his font is set to "Times New Roman" but the type is some decorative font...lol, no idea how he managed to do that
[04:58] <unfo> myles7897:  use Times instead.
[04:58] <mindrape> kanhiya78 - lsmod will tell you what module is loaded.
[04:58] <caiphn> mindrape: dmesg does not report any hardware failures that I can see, it does have quite a lengthy list here though. It does state that wlan0: link is not ready at the very end of it, but nothing that pertails to wireless... it also says that 8187B chip detected
[04:58] <fryguy> thiebaude: so you run gnome with a different window manager?
[04:58] <firestorm> Hi there. I am not running gnome's WM (metacity). Am using fluxbox but want to load gnome's keyboard controls which include multimedia keys etc. How can I do that?
[04:58] <caiphn> and that support is experminetal, but I don't imagine that has anything to do with the wireless
[04:59] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: total 4
[04:59] <needhelpnoob> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 2008-11-13 01:07 assembly
[04:59] <snigapoe> how to get the times new roman font into ubuntu???
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> mindrape: it gets an IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:59] <caiphn> pertails = pertains
[04:59] <myles7897> don't have times. link to download?
[04:59] <thiebaude> fryguy:yes exactly, because i only have 512 mb of ram
[04:59] <mindrape> caiphn - is it a usb wireless card?  pci?  pcmcia?
[04:59] <unfo> snigapoe:  are you myles7897?
[04:59] <kanhiya78> unfo: i am using laptop and i have screen reolution problem
[04:59] <caiphn> USB
[04:59] <abortd> psynophile: probably renamed his font to times new roman or whatever you said
[04:59] <alex_mayorga> mindrape: the router/AP is on <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:59] <unfo> kanhiya78:  what is your entire problem?  Do not tell me, tell the whole channel.
[04:59] <mindrape> snigapoe: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:59] <abchirk> kanhiya78 sorry lspci | grep -i vga
[05:00] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> paste in pastebin your route -rn  and /etc/resolv.conf
[05:00] <caiphn> I'm goin to restart the system and use the tail command. I'm also going to look around for a glossary so I can start figuring out what these commands are doing
[05:00] <mindrape> alex_mayorga: sudo iwconfig         pastebin the text for me to read.
[05:00] <psynophile> fallore_: maybe sudo aptitude -y reinstall msttcorefonts ?
[05:00] <fryguy> thiebaude: i just don't run gnome on most of my machines because I seldom have a need for the features.  I do on one machine though, which is the question i've been asking that I can't seem to get an answer for
[05:00] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels: any suggestions? :D
[05:00] <snigapoe> if i got some other font in window how can i copy them into ubuntu??
[05:00] <unfo> snigapoe: why do you want to?
[05:00] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob: you're doing this as root, right?
[05:00] <psynophile> snigapoe: it depends, are they truetype fonts?
[05:00] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser: route: invalid option -- 'r'
[05:00] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  yes
[05:01] <alex_mayorga> !patebin
[05:01] <snigapoe> not sure..coz i keept in window quiet long ago
[05:01] <metrick> How do you mount .iso files on ubuntu? i have 8.10
[05:01] <thiebaude> fryguy:i might have missed your original question
[05:01] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> route -n
[05:01] <snigapoe> few of them is chinese font
[05:01] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[05:01] <unfo> myles7897: ok, use Serif.  Do you have a serif font on your computer?
[05:01] <gluonman> If someone is familiar with synergy, it would be cool if you could check out my predicament. The tutorial I'm following is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto and I just created .synergy.conf. But when I issue the following command: synergys -f --config synergy.conf, I get the output pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/71195/
[05:01] <snigapoe> which i require to use it
[05:01] <alex_mayorga> !patebin
[05:01] <mindrape> unfo - please stop trolling by the way by asking people "why they want to know" the answer to their questions...
[05:01] <psynophile> metrick sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso/file.iso /where/you/want/to/mount/it
[05:02] <thiebaude> fryguy:yea, i wish i could help, i dont even know what a x-server is
[05:02] <unfo> mindrape:  how is that trolling?  Most people should never need Microsoft Times New Roman.
[05:02] <freddy_engels> needhelpnoob, No, I'm not certain what to do.
[05:02] <mindrape> unfo - you, sir, are and idiot.
[05:02] <elitist> heloo
[05:02] <psynophile> try FreeSerif instead of Times New Roman
[05:02] <needhelpnoob> freddy_engels:  ok thanks for helping anyway
[05:02] <psynophile> I prefer it
[05:02] <n8tuser> mindrape-> kindly tone it down please
[05:02] <mindrape> unfo - most developers code stylesheets to request specific fonts and dont always list generic fonts like serif and sanserif
[05:03] <unfo> mindrape:  they don't specify graceful degradations?
[05:03] <mindrape> n8tuser - scroll up and read his comments to everybody... if you want to tell somebody to tone it down direct it at him.
[05:03] <mindrape> unfo - not in all instances... lurk more on the internet and you'll know this.
[05:03] <ditch64> K i have a 64 bit AMD processor, is there going to be a big difference if i run the 32 bit version as opposed to the 64 bit version?
[05:03] <fryguy> ditch64: no
[05:03] <mindrape> unfo - there are plenty of sites out there that list ONLY arial, times new roman, etc...
[05:03] <rdw200169_> ditch64: i agree, no
[05:03] <metrick> Im not to sure how mounting works, but i want to mount an iso image i have then copy it to a partition
[05:03] <unfo> mindrape: and does Ubuntu not substitute in FreeSerif?
[05:03] <unfo> firestorm:  what key did you press?  what did you expect should happen?  what happened?
[05:04] <rdw200169_> metrick: that's easy, mount -o loop file.iso /directory/to/mount
[05:04] <mindrape> unfo - ubuntu has made the msttcorefonts package available.  Stop trolling.  /rant
[05:04] <psynophile> metrick: it's more complex than that b/c you have a boot sector and ISO types, what are you trying to do?
[05:04] <needhelpnoob> can anyone help me force delete a folder? (rm -rf does not work)
[05:04] <alex_mayorga> mindrape, n8tuser, http://paste.ubuntu.com/71203/ and thanks BTW
[05:04] <daaaman64> Hi all, I need a tool to shrink my current ubuntu partition, and add a new one.
[05:04] <fryguy> daaaman64: gparted
[05:04] <unfo> myles7897:  repeat:  ok, use Serif.  Do you have a serif font on your computer?
[05:04] <thiebaude> unfo:they sure have
[05:04] <daaaman64> I can't remember if you can do this.
[05:04] <needhelpnoob> daaaman64: use gparted
[05:04] <mindrape> unfo -why do you want to know why people want to know?  (how would you like if I asked you this same idiotic question every time you asked them that?)
[05:04] <daaaman64> gparted? alrighty thanks. I need to install windows for something.
[05:04] <ditch64> thank you
[05:04] <unfo> mindrape:  because most people do not actually need msttcorefonts.
[05:05] <mindrape> unfo - well plenty of people want it and a package is available.  Clearly there is a need.
[05:05] <fryguy> daaaman64: consider running windows in a virtual machine.  It might be a better option for you
[05:05] <unfo> snigapoe:  did you try FreeSerif?
[05:05] <daaaman64> fryguy, been there done that. This doesn't run good enough.
[05:05] <mindrape> just because you don't know doesn't mean a need doesn't exist.
[05:05] <psynophile> metrick: if you're just trying to get the files out of it, i think that you can just right click the ISO and extract all...
[05:05] <daaaman64> Thanks though
[05:05] <snigapoe> nope...
[05:05] <needhelpnoob> can anyone help me force delete a folder? (rm -rf does not work)
[05:05] <unfo> mindrape:  many people who use the package don't need the package.
[05:05] <snigapoe> anyway resolve later
[05:05] <rdw200169_> daaaman64: and there are a few free virtual machines that will do it
[05:05] <snigapoe> gtg now..
[05:05] <snigapoe> thanks for your help
[05:05] <mindrape> unfo - many who do do
[05:05] <FloodBot3> snigapoe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <needhelpnoob> can anyone help me force delete a folder? (rm -rf does not work)
[05:05] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: sudo rm -rf
[05:05] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> do not have both wireless and ethernet connected to same router as your host does not know which interface it will route traffic (it may try both?)
[05:05] <firestorm> unfo: tried the Fn+vol up (hotkeyed with the UP arrow)... in gnome/metacity this will change volume up
[05:05] <metrick> I saved the iso image from my Windows CD, and my windows doesnt work anymore so i need to figuer out how to boot from that iso image
[05:05] <fryguy> why is everyone repeating what I say like 10 seconds later? am I lagging really badly or something?
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: i used sudo
[05:06] <daaaman64> rdw200169, yes thanks. I use virtual box, unfortunately, this is a game building program my school gave out.
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: it did not work
[05:06] <mindrape> unfo - there are perfectly good reasons to be able to use the same fonts when viewing/editing documents or webpages, especially for print purposes.
[05:06] <psynophile> metrick: burn it to a cd?
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> can anyone help me force delete a folder? (sudo rm -rf does not work)
[05:06] <snigapoe> wao...the way i type consider as flood??
[05:06] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, the problem would occur even when I'm not wired to the router
[05:06] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - what error do you get?
[05:06] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: what's the name of the file or folder?
[05:06] <daaaman64> is there a way to install windows with out it runnin gover my bootloader? :(
[05:06] <rdw200169_> mindrape: unfo, yes, not to mention compatibility for wine
[05:06] <fryguy> daaaman64: no
[05:06] <mindrape> rdw200169 - exactly.
[05:06] <unfo> daaaman64:  yes.  you need VirtualBox.  You will not have 3D or DirectX support in Windows.
[05:06] <needhelpnoob> this is the error i get: rm: cannot remove directory `/media/disk/WINDOWS1/assembly/GAC_32/sd/<IP_ADDRESS>__b03f5f7f11d50a3a': Operation not supported
[05:07] <metrick> Psynophile: I dont have a cd burner T_T
[05:07] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> well, just have one interface up at a time..it may confuse your routing
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> i have write permission
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> read/write permission]
[05:07] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: that's on a windows partition, why do you need to delete it?
[05:07] <mindrape> needhelpnoob: /media is a mount point
[05:07] <daaaman64> unfo, I'm using virtualbox, the games I'm creating run like crap in it.
[05:07] <unfo> daaaman64: ah.
[05:07] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - umount it instead of deleting it.
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: it has a virus on it
[05:07] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: so i need to delete
[05:07] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - df -Th         that will show you what device it is and it's mount point.  man umount.
[05:07] <daaaman64> fryguy, does ubuntu have a grub restoring programming that I can use if I boot from the disc?
[05:07] <rdw200169_> daaaman64: rock on with the partition shrink then
[05:07] <fryguy> daaaman64: sort of
[05:07] <usser> daaaman64, try vmware workstation it has 3d support
[05:07] <fryguy> !grub | daaaman64
[05:08] <needhelpnoob> mindrape: i want to delete the folder since it has a virus on it
[05:08] <unfo> usser: are you 100% sure?  I doubt the 3D support works perfectly.
[05:08] <daaaman64> thanks fryguy
[05:08] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, when I'm only wireless I get associated to the AP, but the only IP I can ping it's the IP assigned by DHCP, not the router, not any other host or site, any ideas
[05:08] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - well umount it then when you mount it dont mount it read only (ro).... check your /etc/fstab to see if it is set to automount and remove the ro option.
[05:08] <jonathon> i have a file i need to isntall but can only be done as it is .tar i can not find any others for it, as i had 5 people help me find an easy install so i must compile it from source, can anyone help me?
[05:08] <unfo> firestorm:  you are on an extremely high-traffic channel.  Please repeat your question as a full question.  Make sure that, all on one line, you specify:  your Ubuntu version, what key you pressed, what you wanted to happen, and what actually happened.  Prefix your question with "all, unfo, ".
[05:08] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> your wifi seems associated, can you also paste your ifconfig -a results?
[05:08] <fryguy> unfo: it came out in the most recent version of vmware, it's still very experimental, and pretty useless still
[05:08] <usser> unfo, i ran max payne 2 in workstation on nvidia 8600 worked fine
[05:09] <unfo> so who is right?  fryguy or usser?
[05:09] <psynophile> needhelpnoob: windows uses a file system called NTFS, it's proprietary, there's only experimental support for writing to NTFS partitions in linux. You can READ all day long, but writing is more difficult....
[05:09] <needhelpnoob> mindrape: mind giving me instructions on how to unmount?
[05:09] <giacomo> anybody with the "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries" error?
[05:09] <Flannel> psynophile: Actually, ntfs-3g is stable now
[05:09] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> once you are associated, compare the route -n  results in wifi and what you get when only using ethernet
[05:09] <daaaman64> fryguy, I"ve tried it an vmware also :( no luck
[05:09] <needhelpnoob> psynophile: i know. but i was able to delete other files in the folder
[05:09] <psynophile> Flannel: really? awesome
[05:09] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/71206/
[05:09] <mindrape> needhelpnoob - /msg me and I'll give you some step by step instructions.
[05:09] <usser> fryguy, unfo in 6.5 of workstation(the latest) it was released. I tried a couple of games they seemed to run with no problem
[05:10] <needhelpnoob> mindrape:  did you get my msg?
[05:10] <usser> daaaman64, you probably tried vmware server, 3d support only availabe on non-free workstation
[05:11] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> it seems to be okay, the metric for your wireless is 2 while 1 for eth0
[05:11] <fryguy> I'm trying to run gnome on a remote x server.  Someone told me I need to install an x client for gnome to run in.  What client is this and how do I install it?
[05:11] <psynophile> well, i doubt that anyone can help me, but here's my question again:
[05:11] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, so I just unplug the ethernet and do route -n?
[05:11] <unfo> fryguy: why not just use vino instead of remote X?
[05:12] <unfo> vino is easier.
[05:12] <alex_mayorga> I'm pretty certain I would get dropped from the net, what else do you want me to try?
[05:12] <fryguy> unfo: what is vino
[05:12] <psynophile> Here's my question: I have an eSATA controller installed in a PCI-E slot. When I try to boot the machine, ubuntu doesn't detect ANY drives, not even /dev/sda. Same thing happens with the boot/install/live disk. Thing is, if i turn the RAID box that I have attached to the eSATA controller OFF, then ubuntu works fine. When I turn it on after ubuntu is loaded, then it detects all of the drives. Help?
[05:12] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> yah, but always start from clean, either eth0 only or wlan0 only
[05:12] <mynous> hwo do you find out what version of iptables you are running?
[05:12] <unfo> mynous:  why?
[05:12] <mindrape> iptables -L
[05:13] <mynous> kernel: [553530.520904] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer <IP_ADDRESS>:36562/38969 shrinks window<PHONE_NUMBER>:2656128497. Repaired.
[05:13] <mynous> lots of that
[05:13] <psynophile> iptables --version
[05:13] <unfo> mynous:  so just ignore it?  :)
[05:13] <alex_mayorga> mynous: iptables -V
[05:13] <mynous> thx
[05:13] <kingsofleon> anyone know of a good tutorial for packaging .deb files or on where files should be located etc?
[05:13] <fryguy> unfo: vino won't work in my situation.  do you have a solution to the question as asked?
[05:13] <unfo> kingsofleon:  what are you packaging?
[05:13] <alex_mayorga> n8tuser, do I need to reboot then or just unplug?
[05:13] <unfo> fryguy:  no :(  anyone?
[05:13] <Flannel> kingsofleon: Check the topic in #ubuntu-motu
[05:14] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> no need to reboot, you can use sudo ifdown eth0 to disable
[05:15] <unfo> kingsofleon:  repeat : what are you packaging?
[05:15] <psynophile> is there an IRC channel where someone can ask more "advanced" or more complicated questions?
[05:16] <psynophile> for ubuntu
[05:16] <jon_high9000> hi. is there a way to download free podcasts from itunes store website?
[05:16] <metrick> I have herd that you can mount iso files on virtual drives and copy the data into a created partition to install windows, can anyone tell me how this works?
[05:16] <caiphn> mindrape: Hi, so should something be happening?
[05:16] <unfo> psynophile:  please repeat your original question, then I will answer your last question.
[05:16] <psynophile> Here's my question: I have an eSATA controller installed in a PCI-E slot. When I try to boot the machine, ubuntu doesn't detect ANY drives, not even /dev/sda. Same thing happens with the boot/install/live disk. Thing is, if i turn the RAID box that I have attached to the eSATA controller OFF, then ubuntu works fine. When I turn it on after ubuntu is loaded, then it detects all of the drives. Help?
[05:16] <caiphn> mindrape: Sorry, with the tail command?
[05:17] <unfo> psynophile:  is it a server machine?
[05:17] <caiphn> mindrape: When the Wireless connecction dropped, should something have occured?
[05:17] <Flannel> psynophile: You should try the Alternate CD
[05:17] <psynophile> unfo: not really...
[05:17] <psynophile> Flannel: why?
[05:17] <mindrape> caiphn - yes... lsusb
[05:17] <Flannel> psynophile: Because it provides support for RAID/LVM/etc while installing.
[05:17] <mindrape> is it still listed in there?
[05:18] <exmachina> how come when i do lsmod | grep CDemu    nothing shows up even though i restarted it with /etc/init.d/cdemud restart    (sucessfully)
[05:18] <exmachina> i tried grep -i
[05:19] <psynophile> Flannel: don't know if this is clear from my question or not, but I'm not installing ubuntu *onto* the raid array, i'm installing it onto the hdd on the desktop machine...does that matter?
[05:19] <whileimhere> Can someone suggest a tool to use to easily and graphically manage services running on my laptop?;
[05:19] <psynophile> whileimhere: bum
[05:20] <whileimhere> Okay is that in synaptic?
[05:20] <thiebaude> whileimhere:htop
[05:20] <psynophile> whileimhere: yea, should be
[05:20] <Flannel> psynophile: You could try it.  It might be that the RAID makes the desktop CD's stuff freak out
[05:20] <wos1> .
[05:20] <daaaman64> lol okay how do I edit the partition I'm currently on if I can't unmount it? :P
[05:20] <wos1> !BlueZ
[05:20] <try2free> where to get printer driver for epson lq 2180?
[05:20] <unfo> whileimhere: which services?
[05:20] <daaaman64> can this not be done?
[05:20] <Appi> anyone help me. I am unable to open the browser
[05:20] <psynophile> Flannel: yea, it's freaking out alright...okay, i'll give it a shot, thank you
[05:20] <wos1> could someone help me with BlueZ
[05:21] <Flannel> psynophile: or, just disconnect it while installing, then reconnect later
[05:21] <Dominik> ok, how come my BIOS can support screen brightness change, but UBUNTU can NOT? that seems very weak
[05:21] <whileimhere> unfo: I know that most of the services on my laptop are not needed but there are some like acpid and apmd that I am not sure about.
[05:21] <isilion> nas
[05:21] <psynophile> Flannel: yea...i've thought about putting some instructions on it for the user..but..meh, i dunno..just seems like it'd be easy to mess up for him
[05:22] <wos1> can anyone help me with blueZ
[05:22] <kusanagi_> when i chmod in gftp in some remote files, it gives me several "special" options: SUID SGID and sticky... do you know what this 3 means?
[05:22] <unfo> whileimhere:  I don't know the answer to your original question.  I strongly suggest you just leave them all enabled.  Why do you want to disable some?
[05:22] <daaaman64> Can I shrink a partition I am currently running on?
[05:22] <isilion> help. window manager has gone in firefox window. only in that window. it not aappears minimize, maximize or close buttons
[05:22] <psynophile> Flannel: not to mention ubuntu has to be fully up before it will detect the drives...i've already lvm'ed and mdadm'ed into a raid 5
[05:22] <isilion> nor title
[05:22] <SimTech> can someone help me with my code http://codepad.org/SPyfLFnc, everything works except, the output first three digits outputs all 7 :S
[05:22] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: here's whit wifi only http://paste.ubuntu.com/71207/ still no go :(
[05:23] <caiphn> mindrape: It's the first one on the list.
[05:23] <whileimhere> unfo: It seems the more enabled the slower the laptop.
[05:23] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[05:24] <unfo> whileimhere:  what is too slow about your laptop?  word processing?  web browsing?  flash movies?  games?  what?
[05:24] <isilion> help. window manager has gone in firefox window. only in that window. it not aappears minimize, maximize or close buttons nor title.
[05:24] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: negative, that's as deep as I've got
[05:24] <ardchoille> Ok, I solved my "blank tty after installing nvidia" problem. The 177 and 173 drivers cause the problem but replacing them with the 96 drivers seems to fix the issue.
[05:24] <whileimhere> unfo: apps opening closing and the graphics progs go slower as well
[05:25] <unfo> whileimhere:  which apps and graphics progs especially?
[05:25] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> lets have your wifi re-acquire an ip address.  sudo  ifdown wlan0;  sudo ifup wlan0
[05:25] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: does it have anything to do with the bogus wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-1A-92-1A-98-FE-38-66-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  ?
[05:25] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> and lets see if you can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <giacomo> help please "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries"
[05:26] <euxneks> how do I blacklist a USB peripheral from showing up in ubuntu?
[05:26] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I can't unless I'm "wired"
[05:26] <whileimhere> GIMP Open office.
[05:26] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> lets have your wifi re-acquire an ip address.  sudo  ifdown wlan0;  sudo ifup wlan0   <-- this first
[05:26] <gluonman> Is anyone familiar with the process of setting up a synergy server?
[05:26] <isilion> help. window manager has gone in firefox window. only in that window. it not aappears minimize, maximize or close buttons nor title. nor panel its showed when firefox windows is active. please help
[05:27] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> and lets see if you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> after
[05:27] <Hilton> Greetings all. I'm reinstalling Ubuntu. It's been sitting at 82% "Scanning the mirror" for 15+ minutes now. Is there a way I can force it past this?
[05:27] <bazhang_> isilion, you using compiz?
[05:28] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, weird ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[05:28] <bazhang_> Hilton, give it a bit more time
[05:28] <isilion> yes bazhang_
[05:28] <Hilton> How much time can it possibly need to download a package list?
[05:28] <bazhang_> isilion, first disable it
[05:29] <unfo> Hilton:  come join me in #ubuntu-bugs
[05:29] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> and if you sudo ifup wlan0   ?
[05:29] <bazhang_> Hilton, this is via gui or command line
[05:29] <isilion> how bazhang_ ? must uninstall?
[05:29] <Hilton> gui installer.
[05:29] <Ketzu> Howdy fellas
[05:29] <Ketzu> I'm having a bit of a weird problem here
[05:29] <bazhang_> isilion, no; alt f2 metacity --replace
[05:29] <n8tuser> Hilton-> thats where it attempts to find repositories, just wait a lil more
[05:29] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0. yet it shows under ifconfig
[05:29] <Ketzu> I have a DVD tat I can't seem to read all the contents of
[05:29] <unfo> Hilton:  please repeat your question there.
[05:29] <isilion> ok
[05:30] <Ketzu> It's a data DVD. Is there some sort of decryption software I should be getting?
[05:30] <isilion> firefox windows still the same
[05:30] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> verify with  sudo lshw -C network
[05:30] <bazhang_> isilion, restart ff with compiz off
[05:30] <isilion> ok i closed all, opened one and its fixed. thx
[05:31] <grendal_prime> ok this is really pissing me off where can i download a copy of gutsy 7.10?
[05:31] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> partially you can read some of the contents?
[05:31] <isilion> bazhang_, should i alt f2 compiz --replace && emerald --replace?
[05:31] <Ketzu> n8tuser: Yeah.
[05:31] <grendal_prime> it is the only version that will run on this machine i have..everything else will not support the video card
[05:31] <unfo> grendal_prime:  then you should file a bug report.
[05:31] <grendal_prime> everyone has..
[05:31] <Ketzu> n8tuser: It's the wow expansion actually. I can see the installer and DirectX folder, but none of the game files
[05:31] <bazhang_> isilion, you may wish to check some of the compiz plugins or use a different window decorator than emerald
[05:31] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> ask the originator of it?
[05:31] <grendal_prime> that has one of these machines
[05:32] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: paste?
[05:32] <grendal_prime> and there are posted fixes wich none of work.
[05:32] <aeosynth> where do I go to edit visual effects settings? I want the entire window to show when I resize, instead of just seeing a blue screen thing
[05:32] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga-> yes
[05:32] <Hilton> grendal_prime: Radeon card? :P I feel you.
[05:32] <Ketzu> n8tuser: Of the DVD?
[05:32] <isilion> what other windows decorator?
[05:32] <Dominik> November
[05:32] <ccg> on a system where a sata harddrive is mounted under / , df and /etc/fstab dont even show the device, where i can find out the device ?
[05:32] <bazhang_> aeosynth, you have ccsm installed?
[05:32] <gluonman> Anyone here savy with synergy?
[05:32] <unfo> grendal_prime:  everyone has?  Tell me the Launchpad bug number please.
[05:32] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: how long would my MAC address be wandering around in pastebin :(
[05:32] <grendal_prime> i just need a word processors machine... no even better Hilton dell inspiron laptop with an intel 1810 vid card.
[05:32] <aeosynth> bazhang: I'm on intrepid ibex, nothing special installed
[05:33] <grendal_prime> integrated with dri shared memory needs.
[05:33] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> well, maybe it is encrypted indeed
[05:33] <bazhang_> aeosynth, then install it (!ccsm)
[05:33] <roshan> does anyone know what the feature was called where you can roll up a window to just its titlebar and back?
[05:33] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> i dont know
[05:33] <gavagai> Can i make gnometerminal display a title for the hostname after I ssh ?
[05:33] <faryshta> Hi, I tried this command $ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[05:33] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71212/
[05:33] <gavagai> after i ssh into a server it still has my machine's user and hostname in the title
[05:33] <roshan> does anyone know what the feature was called where you can roll up a window to just its titlebar and back? i don't seem to have it after i installed intrepid. do i have to enable it somewhere?
[05:34] <faryshta> And gives me this message error $ The special dispositive /dev/cdrom don't exists
[05:34] <euxneks> is there a way to forcibly prevent Ubuntu from connecting to a device?
[05:34] <bazhang_> roshan, check the plugins in ccsm
[05:34] <unfo> euxneks:  why?
[05:34] <euxneks> vi USB I mean
[05:34] <grendal_prime> there are 5 different websites posting fixes for this none of wich work..and a 6th site that says...dont bother with anything past 710.  its proven broken.  crappy part i was running debian stable on the thing for like a year
[05:34] <unfo> grendal_prime:  Tell me the Launchpad bug number please.
[05:34] <roshan> bazhang_: i know i checked but i didnt see it which was why i was asking as to if anyone knew what it was called
[05:34] <euxneks> unfo, well I have an iPod touch I want to pass through to virtualBox and it's getting locked by ubuntu before I can do that
[05:35] <hollanbm> Does anyone know how to force apps to open in a specific window
[05:35] <grendal_prime> where is this launchpad i will find it on there
[05:35] <Kengine> how do I install latex in Ubuntu ? says latex command not found, do I use "sudo apt-get install latex" ?
[05:35] <hollanbm> specific workspace*****
[05:35] <unfo> euxneks:  ah.  I don't know the answer.  Please ask again.
[05:35] <bazhang_> roshan, let me check mine hold on a second
[05:35] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, RMIT is hosting the first Barcamp event in HCMC, they provide us with free wifi access via their proxy. I can get the wifi without authentication but need to log onto the proxy, how do i set up a proxy connection on Ubuntu/Firefox?
[05:35] <unfo> Kengine:  did you look on Google yet?  :)
[05:35] <Serway> hey guys, what editor do you recccomend for a beginner ruby on rails user?
[05:35] <mindrape> Kengine: yes
[05:35] <unfo> Serway:  gedit
[05:35] <roshan> bazhang_: ok thank you
[05:35] <aeosynth> thanks bazhang =)
[05:35] <mindrape> Kengine - dont listen to unfo he is a troll
[05:35] <faryshta> Hi, I tried this command $ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[05:35] <faryshta> And gives me this message error $ The special dispositive /dev/cdrom don't exists
[05:35] <euxneks> How do I prevent Ubuntu from taking over a USB device I want to load in a virtualbox?
[05:35] <faryshta> I can't use my cdrom
[05:35] <Ketzu> n8tuser: How would I decrypt it?
[05:36] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> oh you have the infamous broadcom 43xx  chips..sorry i would not be much help with that one
[05:36] <mindrape> faryshta - dmesg and look for the specific device name for your cdrom... it might not be /dev/cdrom
[05:36] <hollanbm> euxnets: you need to plug it in, then remove it and replug it in, that shuold work
[05:36] <giacomo> could someone post me the "ldd /usr/bin/qtconfig" of an up-to-date intrepid ?
[05:36] <Kengine> mindrape: E: Package latex has no installation candidate
[05:36] <gavagai> Kengine, sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-base
[05:36] <Kengine> mindrape: I tried tex too
[05:36] <n8tuser> Ketzu-> i dont know, security is black magic to me
[05:36] <gluonman> Synergy anyone?
[05:36] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, can you contribute anything to the bug report?
[05:36] <gavagai> Kengine, do aptitude search latex for more
[05:37] <roshan> unfo: can you help me? firefox seems to be display passwords when i enter it into the password field instead of asteriks
[05:37] <mindrape> Kengine: texlive
[05:37] <kkathman> anyone here know for sure if acpid is a mandatory process on a plugged in desktop unit?
[05:37] <faryshta> mindrape, I will try, the command gives a lot of responses
[05:37] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> if i have to contribute i can perhaps, but as of now, i have none, however you can if you have a bug
[05:37] <Kengine> mindrape: holy crap, thats 136MB :(
[05:37] <giacomo> I'm back
[05:38] <Kengine> mindrape: thanks man
[05:38] <unfo> roshan:  maybe someone else here can.  Please do not ask me for help.  Ask everyone.  Please repeat your question without the "unfo:" in it.
[05:38] <mindrape> Kengine - tetex-base, tetex-bin, tetex-extras  maybe smaller?
[05:38] <Hilton> n8tuser: I gave up after 30 minutes of scanning mirrors.
[05:38] <roshan> unfo: i know. i just like annoying trolls. backfiring is what it's called
[05:38] <Hilton> console, kill apt-get did the trick! :P
[05:38] <Kengine> mindrape: nah, I will download it anyway
[05:38] <Hilton> Install continuing as normal.
[05:38] <n8tuser> Hilton-> oh well, then start from scratch again
[05:38] <unfo> roshan:  how am i trolling?
[05:38] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/b43-fwcutter/+bug/286071
[05:39] <grendal_prime> ok unfo here ya go there are 132 entrys for this bad boy
[05:39] <grendal_prime> https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=inspiron+1100+video
[05:39] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> as ive said if its the infamous one, i am of no help on that
[05:39] <bazhang_> roshan, I could not find it; I am currently asking in #compiz-fusion
[05:39] <wos1> can somebody please help me install some BlueZ libraries and tools???????????????????????????
[05:39] <unfo> grendal_prime:  I need a bug number please.
[05:40] <alex_mayorga1> !b43
[05:40] <mindrape> unfo - you are very obvious about your trolling... playing the denial game isn't going to make you any less of a troll.
[05:40] <roshan> bazhang_: ok i'll try and ask in the channel myself then. it's on freenode right?
[05:40] <abortd> alex_mayorga1: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[05:41] <abortd> is that what you need?
[05:41] <unfo> roshan:  mindrape:  how am i trolling?
[05:41] <wos1> bazhang_: flannel: can you help me with BlueZ
[05:41] <bazhang_> roshan, it is decided by the decorator; I am asking them for alternatives to emerald
[05:41] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> also can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file, to confirm what i see in your previous paste ?
[05:41] <faryshta> mindrape, sorry I can't find anything which mention CD or cd, I used the grep command to find it.
[05:41] <ardchoille> !compiz > me
[05:41] <mindrape> unfo - why do you want to know?
[05:41] <kusanagi_> when i chmod in gftp in some remote files, it gives me several "special" options: SUID SGID and sticky... do you know what this 3 means?
[05:41] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:41] <bazhang_> roshan, its #compiz-fusion ; /j #compiz-fusion
[05:42] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> like this line have..     ip=<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:42] <roshan> bazhang_ thanks i got it
[05:42] <mindrape> faryshta: look for something w the vendor information, not CDROM...
[05:42] <roshan> unfo: this is what i got it from: <mindrape> Kengine - dont listen to unfo he is a troll
[05:42] <mindrape> !grub | needhelpnoob
[05:42] <Ohmu> My file firefox downloader is getting like 10% of a file then finishing.  No error.  Just says 'done'.  This is odd.
[05:42] <unfo> mindrape:  because if I knew what I was doing wrong, I could stop doing it.
[05:42] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71213/
[05:43] <matthias> hi anyone have a functional deriver for ati mobility radeon x1400 workijg in ubuntu intrepid ibx or version 8.10
[05:43] <unfo> roshan:  perhaps mindrape was wrong when he said that.
[05:43] <unfo> matthias:  do you need 3D?
[05:43] <mindrape> perhaps that is something a troll would say?
[05:43] <alex_mayorga1> abortd: do they have an IRC?
[05:43] <roshan> unfo: ok then im sorry
[05:43] <unfo> roshan:  it's ok.
[05:43] <abortd> no idea
[05:43] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:43] <unfo> mindrape:  true.  But I sincerely believe I am not a troll.
[05:43] <Hilton> n8tuser: For future reference, "Scanning the mirror..." hangups can be cured by dropping to console and killing apt-get. Installation continued as normal, with no apparent side-effects so far (now running the installed OS)
[05:44] <abortd> alex_mayorga1: there is a #wireless chan
[05:44] <matthias> unfo: i guess so, doesent all need 3d, well for now my movies is flicking ...
[05:44] <Hilton> n8tuser: Thought you'd like to know.
[05:44] <mindrape> unfo - obvious troll looking to not get /kb'd is sincere in his denial.
[05:44] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> odd that your ethernet also show that ip address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:44] <grendal_prime> ok unfo here ya go this is exactly the same problem im having
[05:44] <grendal_prime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/289945https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/289945
[05:44] <unfo> mindrape: true.
[05:45] <n8tuser> Hilton-> is it continuing the install?
[05:45] <unfo> grendal_prime: i will look, 1 sec
[05:45] <mindrape> unfo why do you sincerely believe you are not a troll?  Why do you have to believe and why don't you just know?
[05:45] <Hilton> n8tuser: Install continued, completed, and I'm now in the fresh desktop.
[05:45] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: might it be the dhcp on my router messing around?
[05:45] <mindrape> unfo - why do I have to question you and be completely beligerent for you to get the point that when people come to a support channel they are allowed to ask questions and not be told to go google or asked why they want to know?
[05:45]  * kkathman is having difficulty determining WHO the troll is :)
[05:45] <n8tuser> Hilton-> alright dude, i hope everything worked
[05:45] <bazhang_> mindrape, what is the issue
[05:45] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:46] <Hilton> n8tuser: Everything appears normal. I think it was just hung on a slow or non-responsive mirror.
[05:46] <unfo> mindrape:  the latex user would have been satisfied by google.
[05:46] <needhelpnoob> anyone know how to solve my grub problem? Error 15: File not found when i use "find /boot/grub/stage1" command
[05:46] <unfo> mindrape:  I think
[05:46] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> i dont really know, you have not elaborated on how your network setup is, and how many nic cards you have
[05:46] <djhash> matthias: do you have compiz running?
[05:46] <n8tuser> Hilton-> okay
[05:46] <unfo> grendal_prime:  could you please repaste those two links on two separate lines?  I can't click.
[05:47] <mindrape> unfo - wouldn't all users here be satisfied by google?  You think there is something in here we know that google doesnt?
[05:47] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I have a router WRT54GC linksys and my laptop has both a broacom wireless and wired card
[05:47] <grendal_prime> by the way i tried to extract the 710 that came with my 1420 and install it..it installed but is..funky cause it was actualy a system restore disk so it sucked
[05:47] <grendal_prime> sure
[05:47] <bazhang_> mindrape, please let it go
[05:47] <unfo> mindrape:  not all users can be satisfied by google, but some can.
[05:47] <grendal_prime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/289945
[05:47] <blinkn1> hello
[05:47] <grendal_prime> sorry i didnt realize that happend
[05:47] <unfo> hi
[05:47] <kkathman> bazhang_,  thank you!
[05:47] <mindrape> bazhang_: I really cant... trolls need to be kicked or silenced.  If you wont then silence me... I refuse to let him continue being rude to people.
[05:47] <alex_mayorga1> and an ethernet cable conects my laptop to the router, because the wireless wouldn't work at al
[05:47] <NinjaELF> Hello everyone!
[05:47] <unfo> hi
[05:47] <n8tuser> Hilton funny thing is, once a malfunctioning app appears, you will start doubting if your install was really completed or not
[05:47] <NinjaELF>  :)
[05:48] <abortd> mindrape: this is like all the google answers in a live chat i bet you also like answering machines when you call tech support right?
[05:48] <azfira> ritha
[05:48] <bazhang_> please take all non-support chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <mindrape> abortd - you just proved my point.  :)
[05:48] <NinjaELF> Is it posible to restrict the mouse movements so the point will not go outside of a defined box area?
[05:48] <needhelpnoob> hey guys let's all just get along eh?
[05:48] <abortd> ok
[05:49] <Appl3Kork> i plugged in ethernet to my laptop, and it was showing in the top right that it was actually trying to connect?  Does that mean that my ethernet driver is already installed?
[05:49] <needhelpnoob> :D
[05:49] <abortd>  atleast i did something then right?
[05:49] <matthias> djhash:  tried that but my flickering still remains, i am reinstalling it ...
[05:49] <abortd> :P
[05:49] <djhash> matthias: dont
[05:49] <unfo> bazhang_: mindrape: Kengine: roshan: ok I joined #ubuntu-offtopic, let's please take this there
[05:49] <FAJALOU> hi i am trying to decrypt some files; i copied the key over to the other computer:  but when i rightclick>decrypt it says that i don't have the right key... What am i doing wrong?  thanks
[05:49] <needhelpnoob> .j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:49] <djhash> matthias: the problem is that some video players want to use opengl to play the video while compiz is using that.. if you use VLC.. i can show you how to stop the flickering
[05:50] <matthias> djhash:  yes i am using vlc
[05:50] <djhash> matthias: what version do you have
[05:50] <grendal_prime> unfo i can run it in vesa mode...but damn if i can get the black border to  to disapear and anything but vesa just black screens and calles up the the xorg dbug box thing...wich is lame by the way. because even when i put the old vesa config back it still just crashes untell i reboot the box. and yes ive gone to a tty and killed x the old fashoned way and tried resatrting it a half a dozen diff ways.
[05:51] <azfira> aaaaaaaaa
[05:51] <phoenix24> Hi, Can anyone please guide me on How does one go about compiling eclipse-IDE ?
[05:51] <bazhang_> azfira, please stop
[05:51] <unfo> azfira:  please do not press Enter in mid-sentence.
[05:51] <giacomo> anybody here?
[05:51] <unfo> phoenix24:  why compile it yourself?
[05:51] <unfo> giacomo:  no, i am not :)
[05:51] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> the way you have your interfaces file, thats not how i would set up mine, id specify the interfaces instead of just lo
[05:51] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:51] <Neurologic> hmm, I'm having an issue with Evolution Mail, it crashes upon opening preferences?
[05:51] <unfo> grendal_prime:  Please repeat that last line more clearly.
[05:51] <mindrape> unfo - quit asking people why they want to do something.  Just help them or be quiet.
[05:51] <grendal_prime> does anyone know of a location  where i can get an iso of 710?
[05:51] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I never modified manually
[05:52] <unfo> Neurologic:  please join me in #ubuntu-bugs, and repeat your question there
[05:52] <matthias> djhash:  vlc i guess latest one ..., let me check ...
[05:52] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, I'm comming all the way from intrepid alpha, so  that might be the problem
[05:52] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, how should it look?
[05:52] <faryshta> mindrape, sorry still can't find it :(
[05:52] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> possibly, id do a fresh install
[05:52] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:52] <grendal_prime> the part about killing X the old fashoned way?  or restarting it half a dozen diff ways?
[05:52] <drunk> grendal_prime, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:52] <bazhang_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ grendal_prime
[05:52] <matthias> djhash:  0.9.4 of vlc
[05:52] <faryshta> I was using my DVD last week don't know what happened.
[05:53] <penguin-up> where do i find my ubuntu version number?
[05:53] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> id remove all those # comment lines
[05:53] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:53] <bazhang_> !version > penguin-up
[05:53] <grendal_prime> ya bazhang_ thanks but that never resolves
[05:53] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:53] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser, also iface lo inet loopback line?
[05:53] <grendal_prime> ive found half a dozen links that point there and i never see anything materialize
[05:53] <djhash> matthias: ok.. run vlc-> tools-> preferences-> at the bottom.. show ALL settings -> video  then on the right side.. change it from default to X11
[05:53] <matthias> djhash:  got from the repo ...
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> anyone able to help me? when i run: find /boot/grub/stage1. i get Error 15: File not found
[05:54] <n8tuser> alex_mayorga1-> id remove all those # comment lines  effectively specifying all the interfaces
[05:54] <bazhang_> grendal_prime, works fine here
[05:54] <unfo> phoenix24:  mindrape:  Nobody should ever suffer to build eclipse themselves.  Why would you want to compile it yourself?
[05:54] <drunk> sounds like the file isn't there needhelpnoob
[05:54] <unfo> It is available prebuilt.
[05:54] <raheem> needhelpnoob: did u try with sudo grub or just grub only
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> sudo grub
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> i installed ubuntu through windows
[05:54] <unfo> wubi?
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> *within windows
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> yes i think so
[05:54] <naenae87> ok guys who can help me
[05:54] <grendal_prime> bazhang_: oh come you you have to be kidding me?
[05:54] <needhelpnoob> whatever the livecd offers
[05:55] <djhash> matthias: or tools->preferences->video.. then change output to X11..
[05:55] <phoenix24> unfo, I'm a lazy geek with lots of time at disposal.
[05:55] <raheem> the live cd offers everything, so which one u selected ?
[05:55] <needhelpnoob> so im guessing cause of that the directory names are different?
[05:55] <rubydiamond>  /join #emacs
[05:55] <needhelpnoob> i think wubi
[05:55] <mindrape> unfo - there are plenty of reasons to compile something.  Gentoo exists for the joy of it.
[05:55] <Trae> anyone know how to lock a window in metacity so it won't move until you unlock it?  I'm playing World of Warcraft under Wine, and trying to keep from moving the window around the screen accidently  (playing in windowed mode)
[05:55] <phoenix24> unfo, well there are other reasons too. 1, performance. 2, feature. etc.
[05:55] <matthias> djhash:  done
[05:56] <needhelpnoob> raheem: any ideas?
[05:56] <raheem> !grub
[05:56] <mindrape> unfo - nobody should have to suffer through you questioning why they want to do something when they come to get support.
[05:56] <djhash> matthias: now try playing a movie
[05:56] <VPS|KDE> you could try 'locate stage'    if that file is new, you might have to do 'sudo updatedb' first
[05:56] <matthias> djhash:  let me try ...
[05:56] <grendal_prime> bazhang_: can you get an ip for me?
[05:56] <unfo> phoenix24:  I don't know the exact command you need, but it is something like sudo apt-get build-dep eclipse -yq && apt-get source eclipse -yqb
[05:56] <needhelpnoob> thanks VPS|KDE
[05:56] <mindrape> unfo - just because you have preconceived notions and preferences doesn't mean the rest of the world shares them.
[05:56] <VPS|KDE> yw
[05:56] <grendal_prime> it is not resloving for whatever reason
[05:56] <mindrape> unfo - your bias towards binary-only installs is disturbing.
[05:56] <bazhang_> !offtopic | mindrape
[05:56] <alex_mayorga1> n8tuser: sorry to abuse your kindness, but would you pastebin the suggested /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:56] <mindrape> bazhang_: tell it to unfo.
[05:57] <mindrape> bazhang_: he isn't helping people.  He is questioning them incessantly.
[05:57] <naenae87> ok i got a wireless G usb card that i need instructions on how to install in Xubuntu or Ubuntu is fine since they are essintially the same thing. and please make an easy to understand website. maybe give me a few to work with if you gott em.
[05:57] <faryshta> I can't use my CDROM, need help.
[05:57] <mindrape> I am helping people and trying to help them avoid him.  If you want to kick me knock yourself out... who will help people out though?
[05:57] <mindrape> You'll have unfo to question them... if that is what you want then /kb me.
[05:57] <azfira> #kendari
[05:57] <matthias> djhash:  GREAT WORK ...