[04:04] <smotchkkiss> i'm using the same login for my ssh connection and it's working in my ftp client :)
[04:04] <zeitsofa> Flipo: and you can start it with /etc/init.d/yourscript start ?
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> tritium: that's really cool
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> tritium: no extra setup req'd
[04:04] <Flipo> zeitsofa: yes
[04:04] <tritium> smotchkkiss: correct.
[04:04] <smotchkkiss> tritium: thanks!
[04:04] <tritium> No problem.
[04:04] <zeitsofa> Flipo: confuse :/
[04:04] <Flipo> zeitsofa: it needs the network so I require $networking
[04:05] <smotchkkiss> now is there anyone here that can point me to a good beginner's resource for learning how to use git?
[04:05] <tritium> smotchkkiss: you can install the documentation via "sudo apt-get install git-doc"
[04:06] <zeitsofa> Flipo: and boot process try to start your script after networking?
[04:06] <tritium> !git | smotchkkiss, otherwise read this:
[04:06] <Flipo> zeitsofa: in what log can I see that (I searched the logs but couldn't find traces of my script)
[04:08] <zeitsofa> Flipo: sorry, but i don't know what you can do for
[04:10] <b1n42y> is NM supposed to manage connections on 8.10 server?
[04:12] <tritium> b1n42y: server installs do not install a desktop environment, so I would suspect not.
[04:12] <b1n42y> tritium: ahh ok thanks
[04:12] <jujumon> hi
[04:12] <tritium> b1n42y: if you decided to install a desktop, then you could easily make it do so, however
[04:12] <jujumon> question
[04:12] <jujumon> how do i upgrade to the 686 kernel
[04:13] <jujumon> i tried sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:13] <b1n42y> tritium: so id need to set that up from within NM ?
[04:13] <jujumon> i am using intrepid
[04:13] <blackest_knight1> depends where you get your packages from but in general a version of packages is frozen at some point to make the release  "stable"
[04:13] <tritium> b1n42y: set which up?
[04:14] <b1n42y> tritium: Network manager
[04:14] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me get a Dell XPS integrated webcam working?
[04:14] <bonez46> if I take a sata drive.. running etch out of a system with Pentium II, 32 bit system and put it in a newer system with a 64 bit amd cpu. would that create EXT4 errors? Is that possible?
[04:14] <jujumon> does anyone know?
[04:15] <tritium> b1n42y: you're asking if you'd need to setup network manager within network manager.   I don't understand.
[04:15] <tritium> jujumon: there is no 686 kernel
[04:15] <jujumon> did there used to be
[04:15] <b1n42y> tritium: if you decided to install a desktop, then you could easily make it do so, however   > so how do i do that
[04:15] <jujumon> i need to figure out a good way to speed this up
[04:16] <tritium> jujumon: many releases ago, but the return on investment wasn't significant enough to warrant continuing to offer it
[04:16] <blackest_knight1> how much ram you got jujumon ?
[04:16] <codyxx> Okay, I am in dire need of some help.
[04:16] <sebsebseb> codyxx: with what?
[04:16] <sebsebseb> !ask
[04:16] <codyxx> Essentially, when logging in, I get this message
[04:16] <jujumon> i think 1 gb
[04:16] <jujumon> at least 1 gb
[04:16] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me get a webcam working on a Dell XPS?
[04:17] <sebsebseb> !webcam
[04:17] <tritium> b1n42y: if you want gnome, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.  kubuntu-desktop for KDE, and xubuntu-desktop for xfce.
[04:17] <blackest_knight1> that should be plenty whats slow ?
[04:17] <bonez46> anyone? moving a sata drive, with ubuntu installed from one system to another?
[04:17] <eighthr> is there a download for ghamachi that works....???....
[04:17] <jujumon> xubuntu is a bit faster for me
[04:17] <morph3us> hi.. someone here have a broadcom wireless card? i have intrepid and can't get the f*cking card work well..
[04:17] <Tamnakz> ubottu thank you!
[04:17] <jujumon> but firefox is still really slow and freezes a lot
[04:17] <codyxx> "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If You have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskspace. Try loggging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem."
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Tamnakz: yeah, but I triggered it
[04:17] <blackest_knight1> should be ok i killed a server the other day shifted the drives fine apart from grub
[04:17] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[04:17] <jujumon> and other apps too
[04:17] <RussM_> bonez46, Should work OK, I've moved drives before.
[04:17] <codyxx> Okay, so I tried logging in with failsafe gnome, and I cannot.
[04:18] <mezquitale> anyone here ever synchronized a windows mobile 5 device with their ubuntu distro???
[04:18] <blackest_knight1> codyxx try boot fail safe and apt-get clean then try again
[04:18] <RussM_> bonez46, Though you mentioned ext4, I have no idea about that. Still using ext3, not planning on moving up for a bit.
[04:18] <codyxx> okay
[04:19] <gui> which distro is ubuntu based on?
[04:19] <codyxx> Would I just boot fail safe with grub
[04:19] <RussM_> gui, debian
[04:19] <sebsebseb> !Debian | gui
[04:19] <blackest_knight1> probably is hd space so apt-get clean just clears the package cache
[04:19] <b1n42y> tritium: given my question was is NM supposed to control network connections i thought it was implied that i had already installed ubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <lstarnes> gui: specifically, debian's unstable branch
[04:19] <codyxx> I have a 250gb hard drive.
[04:20] <gui> so which distro is debian based on or is it an original one?
[04:20] <mejobloggs> when i installed ubuntu server I didn't have it plugged into network. When i got to the 'configure network' I said i'd configure it later. So... now that it's installed, how do I configure the network?
[04:20] <codyxx> And I have enough disk space. I had 190gb of disk space free.
[04:20] <lstarnes> gui: debian is more or less original
[04:20] <mezquitale> anyone here ever synchronized a windows mobile 5 device with their ubuntu distro?? i want to synchronize my phone with my distro so i wont have to boot up to redmond
[04:20] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian is one of the first Linux distros
[04:20] <gui> so which is better, ubuntu or debian?
[04:20] <sebsebseb> gui: Ubuntu for new users
[04:20] <blackest_knight1> hmm ok i'm out of ideas
[04:20] <lstarnes> gui: it largely depends on personal preference
[04:20] <tritium> b1n42y: it was not, as you asked about server installs, for which desktop environments are not default
[04:21] <mezquitale> gui, it all depends, really, if youre a newbie i HIGHLY recommend ubuntu
[04:21] <bonez46> RussM_: that's just it. I haven't moved up.. the drive in question is running 8.10 desktop, and I don't know anything about ext4 either..
[04:21] <gui> so what does debian has that is not found in debian?
[04:21] <gui> in ubuntu*
[04:21] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/WindowsMobile
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: ubuntu is better for a desktop-system, because of the shorter release-times and the newer software. its based on debian unstable. Debian is better for servers, because its using very stable software. ubuntu is easier to handle, because of some nice guis (all my opinion)
[04:22] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian is  free and open source software by default, and makes it harder to get closed source software such as the Flash plugin, than Ubuntu does
[04:22] <b1n42y> tritium: so now you know, my bad ...  , how do i solve this
[04:22] <tritium> b1n42y: so, if you have ubuntu-desktop installed, you have the choice of configuring network-manager, or configuring your interfaces manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:22] <gui> i see
[04:22] <gui> thanks
[04:22] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, thanks, all those docs are old, using intrepid, i just wanted to know if there was anyone here who has synchronized their wm5 device with their distro
[04:22] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian  also has it's own version of FIrefox under it's own name, with a differnet logo, because of some stupiditity
[04:22] <codyxx> blackest_knight1: Would you like to see the ~/.xession-errors file I get after the prompt?
[04:23] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, in installing all the utils that i need however it's been quite a few minutes installing triggers for python-support
[04:23] <b1n42y> tritium: well my network works so configs are fine, just would like to have it setup in NM, ive tried adding wired connection, but doesnt seem to work
[04:24] <sebsebseb> gui: Debian is also apparantly better for servers, than Ubuntu
[04:24] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: it works fine for me. i used this 2 month ago
[04:24] <codyxx> "/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Line: 2 /etc/profile: 26 id: not found Line 3: "etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, exec: 20 x-terminal-emulator: not found
[04:24] <gui> so does apt-get install, installs any opensource software i can think of?
[04:24] <sebsebseb> gui: not everything
[04:24] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no
[04:24] <gui> what's the limit?
[04:25] <codyxx> gui: anything in the repositories
[04:25] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: just precompiled packages, but that a very much
[04:25] <sebsebseb> gui: a few thousand packages are available, but  a lot is also not availalbe
[04:25] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: the standard-software you will find in the different repos
[04:25] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, are you using intrepid?
[04:25] <gui> so can i install any software found on any other distro's repos than ubuntu?
[04:25] <tritium> b1n42y: I'm not a big fan of NM, myself, actually.
[04:25] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no
[04:25] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: yes i did
[04:26] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: just the ubuntu repos for the correct-version
[04:26] <b1n42y> tritium: same i use wicd on my laptop
[04:26] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, you think it'll work with WM6?
[04:26] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: but trust me there are many many many packages inside the ubuntu-repos
[04:26] <tritium> b1n42y: cool.  So, I may not be the best person to advise you on configuring NM, if that's your intent.
[04:26] <sebsebseb> gui: ,but for example for a later version of Wine found in the Ubuntu repo,  you can add the www.winehq.org  ubuntu repo
[04:27] <b1n42y> tritium: thanks
[04:27] <gui> but there are alot of softwares that i need to use that aren't just in ubuntu's repos
[04:27] <sebsebseb> gui: somesites offer  repos that can be added for Ubuntu, but you should be careful that it's from a good source, because they could have maybe done something malicious to the package
[04:27] <sebsebseb> gui: such as?
[04:27] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: which for example?
[04:27] <gui> like kismet, maltego
[04:28] <sebsebseb> gui: whatever those are
[04:28] <gui> p0f
[04:28] <bonez46> how does one safely move a drive running ubuntu from 32 bit system to a 64 bit system? should that just work, or what might have to be done to grub to make it work?
[04:28] <tritium> gui: kismet is in the repos
[04:28] <tritium> !info kismet
[04:28] <tritium> gui: ^^
[04:28] <mercutio22> I can't have accents in kile latex editor
[04:29] <gui> ubottu: seems to be very ready
[04:29] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: it work yes. can u read german? i have only a german howto for that :/
[04:29] <Milky_Way> what is the default fixed width font for apperances? (IE: font for terminal)
[04:29] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: error gives kile or latex?
[04:29] <gui> does virtual box found in the repo?
[04:29] <Milky_Way> gui: yes
[04:29] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: yes but just the ose.edition
[04:30] <gui> what's ose.edition
[04:30] <sebsebseb> gui: yes, but only the OSE version, and so if you want USB suppourt you need to get the binary from their site  http://www.virtualbox.org
[04:30] <tritium> gui: open-source edition
[04:30] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: open-source without usb-support
[04:30] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> I just can't make áéí compound characters  in kile, I am not even compiling the latex file yet
[04:30] <gui> that's fine
[04:30] <gui> so i was trying to manage my video ipods with ubuntu but couldn't find a software like itunes how can i do that?
[04:30] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: works fine with my kile
[04:30] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> Its just a kile problem
[04:31] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: press ` then a
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gui: banshee can do stuff with your ipod
[04:31] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: no its not a kile problem, works fine here
[04:31] <gui> videos or only music?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gui: banshee is a very nice music and video player.  the 8.10  version is good  the  8.04 version sucks
[04:31] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> I know, it used to work here. All of a sudden it does not anylonger
[04:31] <gui> but my ipod is apple does it handle it too?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> gui: yes it's got suppourt for ipods
[04:32] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: hm
[04:32] <sebsebseb> gui: syncing or whatever
[04:32] <tritium> gui: all iPods are Apple products
[04:32] <gui> so some ipods are creative and sony and others
[04:32] <sebsebseb> tritium: lier  you got one  made by Microsoft :D
[04:32] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, i dont read german, thank you very much for the info though, i know it can be done, ive had problems with my PPC-6700 device but now Im half way there, i can see the device and files in it, just finished installing the libraries,hopefully it'll work
[04:32] <DIFH-iceroot> tritium: not the asia/taiwan "ipods" :)
[04:32] <Candrian> 0
[04:32] <gui> US ones i guess
[04:33] <b1n42y> hwo do i find mac address of my network card?
[04:33] <tritium> DIFH-iceroot: ok, all *legal* ones.
[04:33] <DIFH-iceroot> b1n42y: ifconfig
[04:33] <DIFH-iceroot> tritium: ok :)
[04:33] <gui> so are there any applications that work like msn with voip and webcam support?
[04:33] <Milky_Way> DIFH-iceroot: are you saying other companies make ipods? as in, the exact name? sure there are rip offs like zune and whatever..
[04:33] <Milky_Way> gui: skype
[04:33] <tritium> gui: ekiga
[04:33] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> any clues what could have triggered this?
[04:33] <DIFH-iceroot> Milky_Way: not companies, but pirates
[04:34] <Milky_Way> DIFH-iceroot: oh so black market... meh
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gui: yeah and  I know how you can phone loads of countires for free :d  and so SKype heh
[04:34] <gui> what about doing a fake cam like "fakecams" or "splitcam"?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gui: Pidgin is going to have web cam suppourt soon I think,  that's multi protocall network
[04:34] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: i don't know anything about your ppc-6700. have this device a wlan card you can try http://www.finchsync.com
[04:34] <DIFH-iceroot> mercutio22: i dont know, because i am german, i am not using stuff like à so i dnt knw how to fix it, just works with my default kile
[04:34] <sebsebseb> gui: AMSN and Kmess do web cam
[04:34] <DIFH-iceroot> Milky_Way: yes
[04:34] <tritium> sebsebseb: really?
[04:34] <gui> sebsebseb: how can you phone for free?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> tritium: yep  I think Pidgin will have it soon
[04:34] <mercutio22> DIFH-iceroot> alright... thanks
[04:34] <gui> i think amsn doesn't do cam support
[04:34] <tritium> sebsebseb: interesting.  I thought the devs didn't have any plans for video support.
[04:35] <tritium> gui: apparently it does, actually
[04:35] <gui> that's very great then
[04:35] <sebsebseb> gui: http://www.voipcheap.com and then set it up with a  Linux program or whatever their site says.  there program is Windows only
[04:35] <gui> so is there a way to capture videos from webcams?
[04:35] <tritium> gui: look at cheese.
[04:35] <baz12> do you think it helps the uptake of linux for new users with frequent (e.g. 6 months or less) and often broken releases becuase new users think thay have to keep up with it and can get a bad experience?
[04:35] <Milky_Way> what is the default fixed width font for apperances? (IE: font for terminal)
[04:36] <gui> and i couldn't find snort in the repos?
[04:36] <tritium> gui: http://projects.gnome.org/cheese/
[04:36] <bazhang> baz12, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:36] <sebsebseb> gui: so  I just laugh at SKype these days,  but someone I told about that one,  still wanted Skype in Ubuntu
[04:36] <tritium> !info snort
[04:36] <tritium> gui ^^
[04:36] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, thanks, i think ill try the other links you gave me first, im working on it right now
[04:36] <SomePriest> I installed totem-xine.  When I play DVDs they are very slow, like the PC can't push out a fast enough frame-rate, and the video quality is pretty bad (looks grainy).  Is there a better solution to playing DVDs then totem-xine?
[04:36] <baz12> bazhang: ok
[04:36] <tritium> gui: I would guess that you've not enabled the universe or multiverse repositories.  You need those to access several thousand more packages.
[04:36] <|Kamen|> I'm looking to pick up a usb bluetooth adapter, and all the ones I see say they support xp/vista. what are my chances of ubuntu knowing what to do with the thing when I plug it in?
[04:37] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: vlc + libdvdcss2
[04:37] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, It produces a sharp image?  And its not choppy?
[04:37] <gui> ok what about enlightment i couldn't find that too?
[04:37] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: best video player in the world :)
[04:37] <zeitsofa> mezquitale: http://www.j-zero.de/blog/ubuntu-vs-windows-mobile-6-79.html this is the german howto that worked for me. i think translator can help you, if the other dosn't work for you.
[04:37] <tritium> gui: that's also available
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: yes you can have enlightment, but  it needs some configuring to be any good in Ubuntu
[04:38] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: i dont have problems with bad image quality
[04:38] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, You help develop it do you?  ;)
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: you can get Elive though :d
[04:38] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: no, just a vlc-fan
[04:38] <Nalf> |Kamen|, it should work with little to know setup. ^_^
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: Elive already configured live CD for it
[04:38] <tritium> gui: please enable the universe and multiverse repos, and update your package listings
[04:38] <gui> is that better than enlightnment?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> gui: Elive uses enlightment, but it's already been set it up properly for it,  I still need to try it
[04:39] <gui> is there any newer ubuntus than 9.0.4 alpha?
[04:39] <gui> i got the jaunty one
[04:39] <sebsebseb> gui: no
[04:39] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no
[04:39] <gui> is that the newest?
[04:39] <b1n42y> how do i restart my network
[04:39] <sebsebseb> jaunty is in development
[04:39] <sebsebseb> it has bugs
[04:39] <exodus_ms> !distro
[04:39] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no, 8.10 is the newest stable one
[04:39] <sebsebseb> gui: you shoudn't really have jaunty since your new to Ubuntu
[04:40] <gui> but i thought i should get the latest
[04:40] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: no, the newest is nt always the best
[04:40] <DIFH-iceroot> not
[04:40] <sebsebseb> gui: 8.10 is the latest stable.   9.04  will be out properly on like April 23rd
[04:40] <SomePriest> When I first installed ubuntu, a warning told me fglrx drivers were available, but were proprietary.  I chose to install them.  The intaller hung for ages, didn't even download them.  So I cancelled it.  Now that message saying those drivers are available is missing.  How do I reopen that dialog?
[04:40] <exodus_ms> lts is the best
[04:40] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: if you like a stable system with long support, use ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[04:40] <sebsebseb> gui: which one do you have installed?  8.10 or 9.04?
[04:41] <SomePriest> (it was a widget that appeared at the top right of my screen, but is no longer there)
[04:41] <gui> it's not installed really i just downloaded it and tried it on virtual box
[04:41] <mezquitale> zeitsofa, thanks!  I'll try that later on, right now i have wm5 but ill  upgrade to wm6 once i figure out how to synchronize my phone with my ubuntu distro
[04:41] <sebsebseb> gui: your on XP?
[04:41] <gui> ya
[04:41] <|Kamen|> Nalf: the one I am thinking of is here: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12696   (its for a laptop)
[04:41] <gui> but 9.0.4 takes a huge amount of time to install
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gui: 9.04 is development version.   and the release you have is for people that want to test it early
[04:42] <gui> i installed mandriva with tones of packages and it went much faster
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gui: and developers of course
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> gui, sidux takes 5 minutes
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> to compare
[04:42] <sebsebseb> nomasteryoda: sidux :d  still got to try that
[04:42] <gui> what about kubuntu?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> gui: Ubuntu takes about  15 minutes or so to install
[04:43] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: its ubuntu with kde
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> gui, its good
[04:43] <tritium> gui: ubuntu installs are quite quick, actually
[04:43] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, vlc is a bit better, not brilliant either though.  Maybe the issue is that I'm watching a friends webcam in skype.  Perhaps its too much processor lag, I guess.  (never had this problem under windows  :(
[04:43] <gui> ya but not the one i got
[04:43] <sebsebseb> gui: yeah, but in 8.10  can only really have KDE4,  but KDE3 is nice to :)   and not sure about having both KDE3 and 4 in KDE
[04:43] <Nalf> |Kamen|, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup#Bluetooth%20support%20for%20Ubuntu%207.04%20and%20earlier just look over the related pages and stuff.
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> with 9.04... not 8.10
[04:43] <sebsebseb> gui: so I would virtual machine hardy 8.04  for  KDE3
[04:43] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: i like kde more then gnome, but kubuntu is not a very good kde-implementation just as suse (as kde-implementation
[04:43] <Nalf> |Kamen|, I can't give you a 100%, unfortunately.
[04:43] <cr4z3d> so i've accidently removed my vmlinuz/kernel.img files from /boot. is there a way i can restore these without reinstalling?
[04:44] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: KDE4  I don't like that much,  KDE3 was nice, but I stuck to Gnome
[04:44] <needhelp> Hello, How can I disable SCIM ? It keeps switching to chinese (or other odd language) input characters because I always accidently touches some hotkeys. It gets annoying always having to switch back...
[04:44] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: installed correct video-driver? which process is using high-cpu usage? (top)
[04:44] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: just some of the apps got quite a bit better in KDE4
[04:44] <tritium> cr4z3d: reinstall the kernel-image package that it/they belonged to
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> cr4z3d, you can install the kernel again
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> like tritium said
[04:44] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Skype is using 43%, its the highest by a long shot.
[04:44] <sebsebseb> gui: ok you got a lot to learn, and yes  trying stuff out in XP in a virtual machine is a good way to try, but then you should put stuff on for real on your hard disk later on
[04:44] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: i was using kde 4.0 and then i turned back to 3.5.9, never has seen the new (working) version of kde 4(.2)
[04:45] <sebsebseb> gui: using partitining not wubi
[04:45] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: hm 43% is hard i think
[04:45] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: 4.2 and 4.1 seem the same to me, but I never did do a proper look around
[04:45] <gui> i have mandriva on my hdd now
[04:45] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Driver is fglrx (I'm using a Radeon 8500xt)
[04:45] <gui> and use backtrack on VM
[04:45] <Nalf> Is there a timestamp option somehwere in xchat? o.o
[04:45] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: with the new suse i will have a look at kde 4.x again
[04:45] <skierKyle> Hi, i am trying to remove the ubuntu icon to the left of the menu bar, does anybody know how?
[04:45] <gui> but iam more into windows but i love linux
[04:45] <cr4z3d> tritium: what's the best way to do this? it was on my eeepc using "easy peasey" formerly ubuntu eee. i have a live usb i can boot into but what kind of steps would be required to fix this
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gui: Mandriva might be a nice distro, but it is a total noobs distro for people from Windows, by what I have heard etc.
[04:46] <gui> i don't recommend anybody to use it
[04:46] <gui> it's totally awful
[04:46] <exodus_ms> skierKyle, its not supposed to be easy
[04:46] <gui> sorry mandriva fans
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gui: what Mandriva is?
[04:46] <DIFH-iceroot> skierKyle: system - settings- apperiance, there yu can disable the logo
[04:46] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Wait, that vid card is wrong.  Hrm, 850 something-or-other, I forget, getting old  :)
[04:46] <gui> all the linux commands are totally different and it's not user friendly as claimed
[04:46] <sebsebseb> gui:  why do you think Mandriva is awful,  and this is going a bit off topic, but whatever
[04:47] <sebsebseb> ok you just answered
[04:47] <gui> plus not much support for it
[04:47] <tritium> cr4z3d: well, find out the package name (dpkg -l | grep linux-image).  Once you know which package(s) you need to reinstall, sudo apt-get install <packagename(s)>
[04:47] <gui> i couldn't update for along time
[04:47] <sebsebseb> gui: yep Ubuntu is a great distro to start with and to stay with for many people
[04:47] <gui> anybody using ubuntu 7.10?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gui: if you did not like Mandriva, why did you put that one on for real?
[04:48] <sebsebseb> gui: 7.10 was nice, but no longer suppourted
[04:48] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Radeon x850 XT  :)    Anyway, its ATI.  And I'm using the fglrx driver.
[04:48] <tohar> ada
[04:48] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: sorry dont know anything about ati and its driver, so i dont know if it is the best one
[04:48] <gui> i had a dvd off mandriva not an iso so i couldn't try it on my VM but it's my second Unix based try
[04:48] <cactusfrog> hi
[04:49] <gui> my first shot was solaris which has no buttons for shutdown or restart lol
[04:49] <swoody> is there a way to report spammers on the forums?
[04:49] <DIFH-iceroot> cactusfrog: hi
[04:49] <cactusfrog> i am having a problem i can't open tremulous
[04:49] <sebsebseb> gui: there's a good quick distribution chooser quiz, but  Ubuntu should be the one you start using properly :d
[04:49] <cr4z3d> tritium: thank you. i guess i need to get a ubuntu livecd then since apt-get is not on arch
[04:49] <cactusfrog> i just installed it
[04:49] <gui> i did it already sebsebseb
[04:49] <cactusfrog> it wont run what is that comand that allows you to run tremulous in termianl
[04:49] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Do you know how to reopen the widget that installs third-party video card drivers?  I used it to install fglrx, actually killed it before it finished, but it seems to have installed the driver anyway.
[04:49] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: ubuntu is the second-easiest distri so its a good choice
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gui: you can have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu and Englightment and what not, all in the same install
[04:50] <gui> so which is the first?
[04:50] <skierKyle> DIFH-iceroot: system - preferences - appearance? and if so, where after that?
[04:50] <cactusfrog> ah!
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gui: which is the first what?
[04:50] <cactusfrog> what is the comand to run something so you can see it prosses then kill it
[04:50] <gui> you said that ubuntu is the second easiest distro so what's the first?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> gui: I never said second easiest distro
[04:50] <DIFH-iceroot> skierKyle: i dont have an english version, i think its called GUI, just look there
[04:51] <sebsebseb> gui: Ubuntu is  one of the most easiest distros
[04:51] <cactusfrog> ok
[04:51] <gui> sorry that was DIFH-iceroot
[04:51] <cactusfrog> so i really don't know the comand to run proceses
[04:51] <cactusfrog> so
[04:51] <cactusfrog> that i can easly quit them
[04:51] <tritium> gui: ubuntu
[04:51] <gui> so DIFH-iceroot what's the first easiest one?
[04:51] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: somewhere in the settings-tab i think
[04:51] <DIFH-iceroot> gui: opensuse
[04:51] <sebsebseb> opensuse hummmm
[04:51] <cactusfrog> i cant open tremulous everytime i open it it crahses
[04:51] <sebsebseb> ,but that's linked to Novell
[04:51] <sebsebseb> who made a  patents deal with Microsoft
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: does not matter
[04:52] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Settings tab?  Tab in what program?
[04:52] <cactusfrog> i just need one comand
[04:52] <tritium> And I would disagree with that claim, anyway.
[04:52] <cactusfrog> how do i run something through termninal
[04:52] <gui> anybody agrees that opensuse is the easiest?
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: menu on the top
[04:52] <sebsebseb> so opensuse is  like the community verison of Microsoft Linux :d
[04:52] <cactusfrog> please
[04:52] <gui> i think me too
[04:52] <cactusfrog> ok
[04:52] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, You mean "system"?  I have no settings menu.
[04:52] <bonez46> microsoft linux?
[04:52] <cactusfrog> all quit using ubuntu
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: i am using a system which i like and not which is not coming from microsoft
[04:52] <sebsebseb> bonez46: yes see above at my joke
[04:52] <bonez46> isn't that like saying one is a Mormon Catholic?
[04:52]  * gui laughing at microsoft linux
[04:52] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: ah of course, system - settings
[04:52] <bonez46> ah, ok
[04:53] <SomePriest> :)
[04:53] <sebsebseb> gui: Microsoft did actsaully do a Unix ages ago I think
[04:53] <cactusfrog> who relieced the first linux ?
[04:53] <cactusfrog> please guys help
[04:53] <cactusfrog> i cant run tremulous
[04:53] <gui> well microsoft gained it's experience from Unix i believe
[04:53] <cactusfrog> and i dont know how to find its id number so i can kill it
[04:53] <tritium> cactusfrog: Software Landing Systems was among the first
[04:53] <bonez46> inuitive.. sounds just Unreoala....!
[04:54] <gui> but aren't there any distro that can install downloaded softwares just like windows with a double clicks?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> cactusfrog: ok  put xkill in the terminal and click on the program that is causing problems
[04:54] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, they did a half-hearted VMS clone, called it NT :-)
[04:54] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[04:54] <cactusfrog> ok
[04:54] <DIFH-iceroot> cactusfrog: the first linux released? of course linus torvalds
[04:54] <DIFH-iceroot> SomePriest: yes
[04:54] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: oh right
[04:54] <cactusfrog> no
[04:54] <gui> i think mac supprts easy install as windows
[04:54] <cactusfrog> thats not what i want
[04:54] <sebsebseb> gui: Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD
[04:55] <cactusfrog> the tremulous opens then quits but i never see a window
[04:55] <SomePriest> cactusfrog, ps aux | grep -i "PROGRAM_NAME"   ....
[04:55] <sprinkmeier> gui, there' synaptic (and other package managers) that make installing things just as easy (different, but just as easy)
[04:55] <sebsebseb> basically every popular decant OS is  Unix in some shape or the other, and then we got Windows hum
[04:55] <cactusfrog> it happed to me with pidgen
[04:55] <SomePriest> sebastien_, That's not true.  Only a small part of the FBSD kernel was used.
[04:56] <gui> spinkmeier: so this synaptic manages which extensions?
[04:56] <cactusfrog> OMFG! this is driving me crazy i am sorry that i am rude or what ever but i just need one simple code thats it how do i find a programs id number!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:56] <sebsebseb> SomePriest: well it's still known as Unix under the hood
[04:56] <smotchkkiss> when i push code to github and pull down a clone, how do i update the clone to latest revision on github?
[04:56] <DIFH-iceroot> cactusfrog: ps aux | grep programname
[04:56] <SomePriest> sebastien_, heh, Linux isn't even "Unix" under the hood  :)
[04:56] <sebsebseb> !volunter |  cactusfrog
[04:56] <cactusfrog> thanks
[04:56] <cactusfrog> thats all i needed
[04:56] <SomePriest> cactusfrog, I sent you the same command about 4 mins ago  :)
[04:56] <sebsebseb> cactusfrog: don't use gods name in vein or you might go to hell :D
[04:57] <cactusfrog> ya well
[04:57] <cactusfrog> using linux is hell
[04:57] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, or be reborn as a lower life-form (MCSE?)
[04:57] <cactusfrog> bye
[04:57] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: heh
[04:57] <gui> i've seen somebody before showing off his linux capabilities and on his pc there was a console as a background displaying commands equivalent to everything he did from the gui, anybody know how he does this?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> gui: no, but sounds interesting
[04:58] <gui> yes i was so fasinated since he could learn alot from that process
[04:58] <sixofour> wow
[04:58] <SomePriest> gui, history | tail -f    ?
[04:58] <sixofour> how big does an image have to be for gwenview to take up 98% of my cpu?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: sadly it seems  I might be able to get a more well paid job if I was a MCSE then if I had LPI
[04:59] <sprinkmeier> gui, some programs (like devede) send info like that to stdout, so if you start them from a terminal you'd get the same effect. If there's a way to do this in general I don't know what it is, but it sounds cool!
[04:59] <ander1dw> that's what i was thinking
[04:59] <sebsebseb> sixofour: I think that's probably a shitty buggy gnome app to be honest :d
[04:59] <ander1dw> simple stdout
[04:59] <sebsebseb> sixofour: well eye of gnome is
[04:59] <gui> but it wasn't a console actually it was a background
[04:59] <ander1dw> could've just been fullscreened without toolbars
[04:59] <gui> like commands going up the screen in the background
[04:59] <sixofour> gwenview is bnome?..i'm on kde
[05:00] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, get an RHCE. might not be technically superior than LPI but better commercial recognition, therefore more $$$
[05:00] <sixofour> gnome*
[05:00] <sebsebseb> sixofour: not sure if it's gnome
[05:00] <zonyl> sebsebseb: If you get passed over for having an LPI instead of MCSE, you dont want the job.
[05:00] <sixofour> lol the images are 5266x7000
[05:00] <sixofour> and there is 200 of them
[05:00] <sixofour> no shit my stuff is slow
[05:00] <sebsebseb> I am from UK, this countrey is way to locked into Microsoft, so  I wonder where I could go here, with a LPI.
[05:00] <zeitsofa> gui: you can use conky to do that.
[05:00] <pidnull> [- OS Uptime: 4h 2m 15s -]
[05:01] <gui> is that supported under ubuntu?
[05:01] <zeitsofa> gui yes it is
[05:01] <ander1dw> you can actually create a "transparent" profile that looks as though it's just running out of thin air on top of your background
[05:01] <ander1dw> using the gnome terminal, that is
[05:01] <zonyl> seb: I run an MS shop, but I hire people based on their resume and resort to certs only as a tie breaker.
[05:02] <sebsebseb> sprinkmeier: it seems LPI can be done at home, and then go some where for exams, but what about RHCE.  also I got a feeling RHCE might be USA only
[05:02] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: you hav LPI(C)-1? or do you mean something other?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: no I mean I am considering doing LP1  Level 1
[05:02] <DIFH-iceroot> linux professional i..... certificate level 1
[05:02] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, RHCE is world-wide as far as I know. I believe it's like MCSE (i.e. study-test for $$$), but you should be able to book in for only the test
[05:03] <gui> tail -f /var/log/X11/*  will that do the same?
[05:03] <sprinkmeier> gui, probably not, all it will tell you is what X thinks about the requests it's getting from the various programs running, not what those programs are or their parameters.
[05:04] <sebsebseb> zonyl: so experience and stuff in the CV?   not so much about qualifiations?
[05:04] <jeeves> what is the most agressive scan that you can do of an IP? I need to test our work connection
[05:04] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: I don't have  a good qualification in computing, and so LPI
[05:05] <sprinkmeier> sebsebseb, different orgs use CV's in different ways. Some do a buzzword-compliance check as first filter (in which case RHCE/MCSE is essential), some look for other stuff first. YMMV
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:05] <sebsebseb> YMMV????
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> is it possible to get suse like menu here in ubuntu ?
[05:05] <jeeves> what is the most agressive scan that you can do of an IP? I need to test our work connection
[05:05] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, nmap? saint? pingflood?
[05:05] <crabgrass> how do i uninstall software i built?
[05:05] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, I've tried nmap, and it's not reporting anything open
[05:06] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: hm ok, i was think about doing lpi-1 because i have to get a new job and so i am searching for a good linux-quailification
[05:06] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, then maybe... nothing is open?
[05:06] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: Linux in UK,  I guess it's servers, and that's about it really
[05:06] <zonyl> seb: Never. I look at resumes to bring people in and interview.  Certs only break ties and very rarely do I resort to that.   MCP MCTS is so easily gotten, it only shows someone can $$ for the transcender and is usually meaningless.   I would rather have someone have experience with iptables than someone who knows how to point click MS ADS configuration.
[05:06] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, would it just be "nmap -vPN <target>"?
[05:06] <DIFH-iceroot> sebsebseb: ok, i have to look in germany :)
[05:06] <SomePriest> Is the RHCE very hard?  I think there were 4 (?) tests?  I finished the demo of the first and did very well.  The second I did ok on, I think it was networking?  But I've read O'Reilly's DNS/BIND since then.
[05:07] <sebsebseb> DIFH-iceroot: oh your German
[05:07] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, nmap has _many_ options, consider getting nmap-fe (GUI front-end for nmapo). BEWARE, nmap scans (esp. aggressive ones) can be interpreted as attacks and can GET PEOPLE FIRED! get WRITTEN PERMISSION first!
[05:07] <zonyl> seb: implementation can be googled, understanding the underlying tech cannot.
[05:07] <mythomaniac> anyone here familiar with awesome window manager, i need some guidance in setting up a theme and icons - i'm using 3.x btw
[05:08] <sebsebseb> zonyl: MS shop, so you don't even do Linux stuff?  it's all about Windows?
[05:08] <brightjoker> hey all!
[05:08] <sebsebseb> brightjoker: hello
[05:08] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, I'm the lead I.T. tech, and the owner is sitting here watching the hockey game with me!  LOL
[05:09] <zonyl> seb: Sadly yes.  MS gives us so much $$$ in licensing and support we would be hard pressed to challenge that.
[05:09] <sebsebseb> zonyl: who are your customers?
[05:09] <brightjoker> anyone know the best way to improve signal strength between a use wireless adapter and the router?  they are in the same room yet the usb only shows a 20% signal
[05:09] <askvictor> is there a gui for lvm in intrepid?
[05:09] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, still... it it's an external scan the ISP's cen get their nickers in a knot (esp. if you mess up the IP range and scan someone else :-) I'd recommend a simple "nmap TARGET_IP" first, then "man nmap" or get nmap-fe
[05:10] <zonyl> We are a web bases SAS company.  Kinda B2B oriented.
[05:10] <tritium> sebsebseb, zonyl: probably better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <sebsebseb> tritium: heh I knew that would be coming
[05:10] <skierKyle> silve3r_moon: "sudo apt-get install gnome-main-menu" pretty sure thats similar to the suse one
[05:10] <zonyl> seb: Well I was giving credence to the LPI ;)
[05:10] <tritium> sebsebseb: ;)
[05:11] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, the ISP is allready on our S-list, so we don't really care
[05:11] <sebsebseb> zonyl: yeah I would rather not work with MS :)  and  I can't be bothered to join offtopic so I guess we are done
[05:12] <gui> if i used ubuntu 8.10 and wanted to upgrade to 9.0.4 later will that mess up my configuration and save stuff?
[05:12] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, in that case, "nmap -T insane -p - TARGET_ADDRESS" :-)
[05:12] <sebsebseb> zonyl: unless you wanted to pm, but  don't see much point in that either
[05:12] <brightjoker> gui: no.
[05:12] <sebsebseb> gui: your new to Linux
[05:12] <sebsebseb> gui: in a vm  uhmmmmm I guess it's ok
[05:12] <sebsebseb> gui: I mean you would keep data on your XP host I expect
[05:13] <zonyl> bright:  Can you "tweak" the power level of the router?
[05:13] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, it's coming back recomending I try -PN
[05:13] <gui> no not in a vm i mean in my hd for real
[05:13] <liberteriandude> hello...ubujntu fans
[05:13] <sebsebseb> gui: don't upgrade to 9.04
[05:13] <SomePriest> Installed Ubuntu for the first time today (I have years experience with Fedora, Debian, etc).  The installer asked for my language, timezone, allowed me to edit partitions, but on stop 5 when I hit next it booted from the DVD, and didn't install or ever write the partitions I chose in the previous step.
[05:13] <brightjoker> its a linksys, i dont believe so, i can mess with the channels and frequency but pretty sure thats all zonyl
[05:13] <sebsebseb> gui: untill final release
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> i'm in kubuntu but i want to use ubuntu's update manager,
[05:14] <sebsebseb> gui: your new you shoudn't  do 9.04 untill final as a result
[05:14] <sprinkmeier> jeeves, from man: "-PN: Treat all hosts as online -- skip host discovery" looks like ICMP-PING is being blocked.
[05:14] <tritium> gui: jaunty is not currently supported.  Please don't upgrade now while it's still alpha.
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> so i removed adept and kpackagekit.
[05:14] <gui> so which is the latest stable release again?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> 8.10
[05:14] <tritium> gui: 8.10
[05:14] <jeeves> sprinkmeier, lol, looks like it worked then
[05:14] <Tamnakz> Anyone used quickccccam  or quickcam2 to make a webcam work? re: dell xps integrated webca
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> but synaptic update manager does not automatically check for updates nor show a tray icon when there is updates
[05:14] <mythomaniac> none one here uses awesome window manager?
[05:14] <mythomaniac> ;(
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> how to run synaptic update manager at startup?
[05:14] <zonyl> brightjoker: You may want to check out dd-wrt: http://www.dd-wrt.com   Flash that on there and bump the power in its settings
[05:14] <yao_ziyuan> what's its command line in ubuntu?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> mythomaniac: I have, but I never understood what was so awsome about it
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> mythomaniac,  ive used it.. and i dont see the point.. read its docs if you want to use it..
[05:14] <sebsebseb> mythomaniac: in my case it was like wtf how I use
[05:15] <soreau> mythomaniac: I use an awesome WM.. it's called compiz
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> mythomaniac,  the archlinux wiki page also covers it in details
[05:15] <SomePriest> mythomaniac, I use AN awesome window manager.
[05:15] <mythomaniac> lol you guys putting down awesome have no idea the power it has
[05:15] <Athenon> Can anyone verify that Lyra Virus is a real computer virus/other malware or that it doesn't exist?
[05:15] <mythomaniac> lamers
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> mythomaniac,  i did use it.. and it does not suite my needs
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> I will stick with jwm
[05:16] <tritium> mythomaniac: it's all a matter of personal opinion and taste.  Please don't start a flamewar.
[05:16] <SomePriest> Athenon, What did google.com say?
[05:16] <brightjoker> can you explain lyra virus? cause i was to believe there were no linux viruses unless this is a first serious one...
[05:16] <Athenon> SomePriest:  doesnt....seem like it...but i didnt do an UBERLY thorough search?
[05:16] <mythomaniac> tritium, umm i'm not flaming man, just seems sad that people attack it because they think its not useful to them
[05:16] <SomePriest> I recall there WAS a Red-Hat based virus that affected Apache some years ago.  But that was over 10 years ago.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> its not usefull to me.. thsats what i said..
[05:17] <tritium> mythomaniac: nobody is attacking it.
[05:17] <gRunt> Can anyone recommend a good ftp client for linux that is gui based I need to be able to SSH into my ipod touch :s
[05:18] <sebsebseb> Athenon: your not on WIndows, and there aren't really any viruses for LInux as such
[05:18] <mythomaniac> man if this is the future of the lunix community - wow i pity your lives
[05:18] <SomePriest> gRunt, Filezilla now has a Linux port.
[05:18] <tritium> gRunt: nautilus works.
[05:18] <sebsebseb> gRunt: gftp?
[05:18] <musikgoat|main> gRunt: places-> connect to server
[05:18] <sebsebseb> !ftp
[05:18] <brightjoker> didnt that redhat virus only last a few hours though?
[05:18] <SomePriest> brightjoker, No idea, don't think so.
[05:18] <thefeds> how do I install the latest version of eclipse?
[05:18] <zonyl> brightjoker:  Any OS can have viruses.  I believe Linux dodges this issue because users are a bit more sophisticated plus you dont generally run as root unless you really need to.   There have been a number of worms affecting various base packages for *nix throughout the years though.
[05:19] <SomePriest> thefeds, The absolute latest?  Grab the binary from their website...?
[05:19] <zeitsofa> did anybody know a good howto to restore deletet files from filesystem? i can see the delete folder with autospy but i don't know i can recover it.
[05:19] <thefeds> isn't that bad?
[05:19] <sprinkmeier> zonyl, brightjoker morris worm anyone ?   :-)
[05:19] <thefeds> you're supposed to use apt-get right
[05:19] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, FS?
[05:19] <tritium> thefeds: yes, but you asked for the latest
[05:19] <brightjoker> haha im sorry to bug yall im high and am looking for just chat any suggestions of rooms for good general chat or anyone down for some convo
[05:19] <SomePriest> thefeds, Define bad.  It avoids the package manager, but its not "bad" per se.
[05:19] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: ext3
[05:19] <sebsebseb>
[05:19] <gRunt> musikgoat|main, wow linux has everything! will try thanks, thanks guys sorry for the stupid questions still learning.....getting there pretty fast though  :)
[05:19] <brightjoker> morris worm?
[05:19] <sebsebseb>
[05:19] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me to get an integrated webcam on a Dell XPS laptop to work?
[05:19] <SomePriest> thefeds, I think ubuntu has a backports mirror too.
[05:20] <soreau> ! webcam | Tamnakz
[05:20] <thefeds> what is backports?
[05:20] <SomePriest> thefeds, But backports seems rather shallow for ubuntu.
[05:20] <musikgoat|main> gRunt: all in fancy little packages :-P
[05:20] <Tamnakz> ubpttu. neither of those help
[05:20] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, you're SOL.... part of the journalling/recovery mandates that deleted inodes get wiped (or somesuch). Ran into this a few years ago, the only solution was to groves through a bit-dump and look for the files manually. There was an experimental ext3 undelete but it didn't work. Backups?
[05:20] <SomePriest> thefeds, It backports newer binaries to older systems (someone compiled new versions of software against previously released libs)
[05:21] <ReRamBeCap> How can I uninstall Xubuntu?!!
[05:21] <sebsebseb> !puregnome
[05:21] <Scarra3> I need some help I have a Canon MultiPASS F30 and I cant find the drivers for Ubuntu
[05:21] <sprinkmeier>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Worm
[05:21] <brightjoker> ok ok im sorry
[05:21] <zonyl> sprinkmeier: I have had *nix machines exploited, tcpsniffed, and wormed, but never had someone run an unknown binary as root ;)
[05:21] <brightjoker> but booo discrimination!
[05:21] <manmanman77> InternetWorms
[05:21] <manmanman77> is that like what ya get in ya ass
[05:22] <tritium> brightjoker: there was none
[05:22] <brightjoker> but no more from me i promise at least on the offense
[05:22] <sprinkmeier> zonyl, I guess you're not running sendmail then :-)
[05:22] <sebsebseb> !ot | brightjoker
[05:22] <tritium> manmanman77: stay on appropriate topic, please
[05:23] <zonyl> sprinkmeier: ;)
[05:23] <thefeds> How do I uninstall eclipse?
[05:23] <thefeds> I installed it with add/remove
[05:23] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: it was backup device :/ i did a dd from the partition, and i run foremost and autospy did show me the needed folders. so i think theres a way to restore the files. i don't want to send the device to dada restore center, because it is very expensive.
[05:23] <skierKyle> sudo apt-get remove eclipse
[05:23] <tritium> thefeds: same way
[05:23] <SomePriest> Bah, wish you could resize video in Skype like you can on Windows (in windows resizing the window resizes the video)
[05:23] <thefeds> One or more applications depend on eclipse. To remove eclipse and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager.
[05:23] <thefeds> Cannot remove 'eclipse'
[05:24] <Scarra3> anyone know?
[05:24] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:24] <skierKyle> thefeds: Was this in terminal or Add/Remove?
[05:24] <thefeds> add/remove
[05:24] <silv3r_m00n> in gnome the icons have their whole caption displayed.. how to make them display only 2 lines and then dot dot
[05:25] <ReRamBeCap> How caan I remove xfce?@
[05:25] <zeitsofa> sudo apt-get remove xfce* ?
[05:26] <ReRamBeCap> Thanks very much!
[05:26] <gui> i was going to do a dual boot in my new labtop like windows and ubuntu and save all my stuff on a fat32 partition that both OS's can talk to. is that agood idea and will ubuntu be able to control all permissions correctly with fat32 directories?
[05:26] <skierKyle> thefeds: try... Applications - Accessories - Terminal, then when your in the terminal do, "sudo apt-get remove eclipse" no quotes.
[05:26] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, if you can DD the entire device then maybe you can send the image to the recovery place.
[05:26] <sebsebseb> gui: fat32 lol.   Once I drop into ash, how can I install grub on a different target?
[05:28] <gui> so you think that ntfs is better that fat32?
[05:28] <askvictor> I've just moved my system from straight partitions to LVM; what do I need to do to make my system bootable? I know I need to edit fstab and grub, do I need to create a new kernel or initramfs?
[05:28] <sprinkmeier> gui, for running windows, yes.
[05:28] <joljam> ubuntu is freezng on me while viewing streaming movies online.. what might be the problem
[05:28] <zonyl> Scarra3: Dont know if this helps. http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-MultiPASS_F30
[05:28] <L3dPlatedLinux> I cantb get quark music player to play anything and was wondering about the compiz window manager plugin and what to grab on the no focus part to make all windows not take focus when opened?
[05:29] <thefeds> ah I learned how to get rid of packages that aren't being used by anything
[05:30] <thefeds> sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:30] <zeitsofa> sprinkmeier: i did a dd. i used it with autospy :) what did you mean with recovery place?
[05:30] <Myztikal_> hi, i just installed ubuntu 7.10 and i can't firefox in it
[05:30] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[05:30] <Myztikal_> even though it seems like my wireless connects
[05:30] <sprinkmeier> zeitsofa, i meant the data recovery mob you mentioned.
[05:30] <Scarra3> Zonyl lol I have no clue im new to ubuntu
[05:31] <thefeds> so It's not evil installing something without using apt-get?
[05:31] <thefeds> when I used red hat, I was scolded for not using RPMs
[05:31] <thefeds> like I can install .tar.gzs?
[05:31] <jrib> thefeds: no, it's evil
[05:32] <Tamnakz> How can I tell if I have 32 or 64bit installed?
[05:32] <jrib> Tamnakz: uname -m
[05:32] <Tamnakz> jrib, can you explain more?
[05:32] <thefeds> whould I just install the tar.gz eclipse/
[05:32] <thefeds> or is that a bad idea
[05:32] <jrib> Tamnakz: not sure what to explain.  You just run that command
[05:32] <thefeds> screw up dependencies?
[05:32] <skierKyle> Tamnakz: you need to go into a terminal
[05:32] <jrib> thefeds: eclipse is in the repositories
[05:32] <sprinkmeier> thefeds, using the distro's package manager mages management/maintenance easier (applying patches, knowing what's installed ...) it's preferred by most places, but by no means mandatory.
[05:33] <thienma>  /set neat_colors rgybcw
[05:33] <Tamnakz> and in terminal just type    '-m'
[05:33] <zonyl> Scarra3:  It would appear that support for that printer is sketchy based on that page.   I have long ago gotten into the habbit of checking out what works before buying nowadays.  Someone referred me to a good resource this morning http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw
[05:33] <thefeds> add-remove has eclipse 3.2, latest is 3.4.2
[05:33] <jrib> Tamnakz: no... « uname -m »
[05:33] <thefeds> I want 3.4.2, and the C++ version
[05:33] <eseven73> !latest | thefeds
[05:33] <jrib> thefeds: then you have no choice but to go around the package manager
[05:33] <Tamnakz> returns with i686
[05:34] <jrib> Tamnakz: 32bit
[05:34] <Tamnakz> alright
[05:34] <thefeds> !backports
[05:34] <Tamnakz> thanks jrib!
[05:35] <Myztikal_> I just installed ubuntu 7.10 and for some reason firefox doesn't work
[05:35] <Myztikal_> It seems to connect to my wireless point and i've pinged google
[05:35] <Myztikal_> which worked
[05:36] <Myztikal_> can anyone help me?
[05:36] <zonyl> Myztikal_: Is it just firefox?  Have you tried "konqueror" or something else?
[05:36] <KittyKat> libQtGui.so.4 I was wondering where to find this file.
[05:36] <sebsebseb> Myztikal_: 7.10 no longer suppourted upgrade
[05:36] <KittyKat> Could I find on the CD itself or?
[05:36] <Myztikal_> well i download 8.10 but it didn't boot when i changed drive
[05:36] <Myztikal_> changed boot drive*
[05:37] <thefeds> why the hell does ubuntu have 3.2? 3.4.2 is stable enough.
[05:37] <thefeds> for eclipse
[05:37] <thefeds> if not, stable
[05:37] <thefeds> that's like 2 years olfd
[05:37] <sebsebseb> thefeds: Ubuntu only does security updates,  newer  versions of programs in next release
[05:37] <sebsebseb> thefeds: there might be a ppa for a later eclipse though
[05:37] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[05:37] <eseven73> stability is why
[05:38] <thefeds> so when 9.4 comes out, will it use eclipse 3.4.2?
[05:38] <thefeds> or <
[05:39] <bazhang> thefeds, you can install a more recent version if you wish
[05:39] <Jeruvy> thefeds: check it out, if it isn't you can suggest they do.
[05:39] <zonyl> thefeds: More than likely someone maintains a deb/repo for it that you can used instead that is probably newer. I would imagine seeing as Eclipse and Ubuntu is so popular.
[05:40] <thefeds> how do I install 3.4.2 now?
[05:40] <jeeves> how can I parse an apache log file to show how many accesses each DNS name came from and on what day?
[05:40] <tritium> thefeds: install it manually
[05:40] <thefeds> I don't see it in backports
[05:40] <Nalf> I have a usb device that prevents lsusb from displaying any out put when I plug it in. Is there any log I can look at to see what is going on?
[05:41] <thefeds> who is the mascot for ubuntu?
[05:41] <thefeds> all I see is the hugging thing
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, tail /var/log/messages
[05:41] <thefeds> such a hippie OS
[05:41] <Shadow121> LOL
[05:41] <jeeves> thefeds, as far as I know, it's just that circle
[05:41] <lstarnes> thefeds: there is no mascot iirc
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, or dmesg
[05:41] <thefeds> Peace man, share the love
[05:42] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, alright, thank you. The device is a linksys wusb54gs and if I plug it in it actually PREVENTs me from booting into ubuntu.
[05:42] <KittyKat> can anyone tell me where can I find files such as "libQtGui.so.4"?
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> nice Nalf
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> what about when you're in Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Nalf> nomasteryoda: Also.. might you know how to disable bluetooth?
[05:43] <J_P> hi all
[05:43] <KittyKat> Mainly for the Upek finger sensor library
[05:43] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, when I plug it in I notice nothing.. except I can't lsusb.. and it doesn't work to connect me to the internet. :\
[05:43] <tritium> KittyKat: /usr/lib, if the proper package is installed
[05:43] <J_P> how I change of "Sun Mar 15 01:38:53 EDT 2009" to "Sun Mar 15 01:38:53 BRT 2009" ? I try set in tzselect and set ok to brazil location, but still are EDT.
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, you can turn it off temporarily with "sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop"
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, I believe that is a card requiring Ndiswrapper
[05:44] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, from what I can see when I have the wusb plugged in the computer hangs at starting bluetooth. I saw a thread on the forums that '8.10 works with it right out of the box.' Fail, apparently.:P
[05:44] <dsdeiz> hi, is it possible to know the size of an app? let's say firefox
[05:44] <jeeves> anyone on this parsing issue?
[05:44] <KittyKat> tritium: it's telling me to install the missing libraries, though I dont know where to get them from .
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> Nalf, check those logs
[05:44] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, Will do.. booting into ubuntu.. be back shortly.
[05:44] <sprinkmeier> J_P, tzselect will only tell you which environment variable to set for the shell you're in. Use the GUI tool (system->admin->time and date) to change the system default timezone
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> look for anything weird
[05:45] <thienma> quit
[05:45] <tritium> KittyKat: best guess is libqtgui4 package
[05:45] <sprinkmeier> dsdeiz, in synaptic, look for column visibility options. one of them should be installed size
[05:45] <thefeds> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[05:45] <thefeds> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[05:45] <thefeds> was found after searching the following locations:
[05:45] <thefeds> /home/thefeds/Desktop/eclipse/jre/bin/java
[05:45] <thefeds> java in your current PATH
[05:45] <FloodBot1> thefeds: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <J_P> sprinkmeier: I don't have GUI, how is possible to do this via command line ?
[05:46] <tritium> !java | thefeds
[05:47] <mjec-not-laptop> jeeves: I know you asked a while ago, but #apache is probably better able to answer your question
[05:48] <J_P> sprinkmeier: you know ?
[05:48] <crabgrass> hey guys, i'm having a problem here. mpdscribble is telling me that i can't load libmpd.so.0, but mpd is working right now, so i'm guessing it's installed and working. synaptic says it's working, at least. only problem is that mpdscribble isn't telling me where it's looking for libmpd.so.0 so i can't go off making any symlinks or anything. ideas?
[05:48] <KittyKat> Thanks, tritium
[05:48] <thefeds> should I install sun java or gcj java?
[05:48] <sprinkmeier> J_P, /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime are modified by the GUI tool. one contains a simple string, one is a copy of the relevant zone info file (can't remember where others are kept ATM). I don't know where else info is kept. maybe dkpg --reconfigure ????
[05:48] <jeeves> mjec-not-laptop, ok, thanks
[05:49] <J_P> sprinkmeier: yeh. wi will try dpkg --reconfigure tzselect
[05:49] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Ya, Vlc, same thing.  Very grainy, and quite slow (like its dropping frames)
[05:50] <TuTUXG> crabgrass, install libmpd0
[05:50] <sprinkmeier> J_P, the timezone files are in /usr/share/zoneinfo/. The relevant one is copied to /etc for libc to use.
[05:50] <crabgrass> TuTUXG: it is installed. that's my problem.
[05:51] <TuTUXG> crabgrass, that file should be located under /usr/lib/
[05:52] <doleyb> Why does ubuntu have a package for cvsbook-ja but not in english?
[05:52] <crabgrass> TuTUXG: ah, i see. had to make a symlink. thanks for the assisst.
[05:52] <SomePriest> DIFH-iceroot, Granted, the 2D rendering on the desktop is bloody awful too  :)
[05:52] <crabgrass> aw hell, now it's dying with "fatal: cannot find configuration file"
[05:53] <sprinkmeier> J_P, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using the Command Line(terminal)
[05:53] <J_P> sprinkmeier: yeh i get timezone using tzselect and copy it to /etc/timezone and works fine ;-)
[05:54] <sprinkmeier> J_P, the above link says to run "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata". Seems to work here (8.04)
[05:55] <Shadow121> TEST
[05:55] <J_P> sprinkmeier: humm really! That i think work too
[05:55] <J_P> sprinkmeier: thanks
[05:57] <MFen> can someone remind me of the name of the software that allows you to script the gnome/X gui, i.e. automate mouse clicks and such?
[05:58] <MFen> at some point i actually installed it but i can't remember the name and apt-cache search isn't helping me
[05:58] <MFen> you'd use it, for example, to automatically system test software
[05:59] <MFen> akin to autoit for windows
[05:59] <MFen> ah, it was xnee, thanks anyway
[06:00] <Deodorant> how do i copy colours with text on irssi?
[06:00] <Deodorant> seems like an obvious function to have
[06:00] <askvictor> I have /boot on a seperate partition; I've set groot in grub's menu.list, but grub can't find the kernel etc since it's looking for /boot/vmlinuz... in the boot partition rather than just /vmlinuz... - is there a way to configure the automagic kernels thing to not prepend /boot to the kernel path?
[06:00] <Deodorant> lol
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> askvictor,  ive seen the trick done befor where  you have a link in the /boot/ partition that links /boot/ to .. (i think) that way /boot/ is actually the / of the boot partiotion :)
[06:04] <kernel09l> how can i install poweriso
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> kernel09l,  wine powerisoinstaller.exe
[06:05] <kernel09l> dr_willis, so i've to install wine first then
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> kernel09l,  logically.. yes.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:06] <kernel09l> then can you pls. point me to install wine first
[06:06] <kernel09l> thanks
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> its in the package maanger
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> or use the latest from the winehq repos
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[06:07] <fikr> Hi, anyone know application to detect hotspot source (like radar)?
[06:07] <joetheodd> Hey guys. I mounted up my NTFS partition, opened gparted, unmounted it.. and can't mount it or boot windows. I know I didn't nuke it cause windows will partially boot.. is there any nifty app on the repos to save my stuff?
[06:07] <stewart_> if i am on a remote server via ssh whats the best way to pull files from my machine to that remote server?
[06:08] <joetheodd> stewart_: try scp. man scp for usage
[06:08] <kernel09l> is there a way i can use poweriso without installing wine or extracting .daa files
[06:09]  * Nalf mutters
[06:10] <doleyb> kernel09l: do you have the linux version of poweriso?
[06:11] <kernel09l> doleyb: yes
[06:11] <doleyb> kernel09l: Um, maybe you need to get  http://poweriso.com/poweriso-1.2.tar.gz
[06:12] <kernel09l> doleyb: yes i did get it but doesn't work.
[06:12] <stewart_> if i am on my server do i need to know the ip address of my localmachine to pull files from it? Is there a way for the command to pickup that its the machine that has the incoming ssh command?
[06:12] <doleyb> kernel09l: oh...
[06:12] <stewart_> all via scp
[06:12] <kernel09l> doleyb: i just need to extract .daa files
[06:13] <doleyb> kernel09l: so how does poweriso fail to do that?
[06:13] <Ndshacker> this is getting ridiculus
[06:13] <Ndshacker> Ive reinstalled Ubuntu three times today
[06:13] <dreamnid> stewart_: I think the answer is no
[06:13] <sprinkmeier> stewart_, sort of... you could set up a reverse tunnel, then scp to/from ::1 (localhost)
[06:14] <dreamnid> stewart_: I usually just scp from the machine itself... otherwise you can do a reverse tunnel
[06:14] <kernel09l> doleyb: when i run it, states: unrecognized parmater
[06:14] <Azharn> Is there a bash client for downloading torrents? I used to have one on my old fedora box, can't remember what it was called for the life of me. I know it's not rtorrent... that's about it.
[06:14] <doleyb> kernel09l: well what did you run it with?
[06:14] <Ndshacker> Ive actually made a aptonnCD disk :|
[06:14] <yoyit2> how do i get line-in audio to play out my speakers??
[06:15] <kernel09l> doleyb: i ran "./poweriso filename.daa"
[06:15] <joetheodd> Hey guys -- I know this is an almost religious question, but ext2/3 for home use?
[06:16] <doleyb> kernel09l: tryp ./poweriso list filename.daa
[06:16] <doleyb> joetheodd: ext3
[06:16] <joetheodd> doleyb, thanks.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> joetheodd,  not much reason to not use ext3
[06:16] <sprinkmeier> joetheodd, ext3. it;s ext2 with journalling, so you really save on fsck on bootup.
[06:17] <yoyit2> how do i get my line-in to play through my speakers?????????
[06:17] <kernel09l> doleyb: bad parameter: list
[06:18] <doleyb> kernel09l: ok then, ./poweriso list filename.daa / -r
[06:18] <Azharn> Is there a bash client for downloading torrents? I used to have one on my old fedora box, can't remember what it was called for the life of me. I know it's not rtorrent... that's about it.
[06:19] <doleyb> kernel09l: and I think you later want ./poweriso extract filename.daa / -od /tmp
[06:20] <doleyb> Azharn: btdownloadcurses
[06:20] <Azharn> Is that the package name?
[06:20] <smotchkkiss> can i make an alias that accepts an argument/param?
[06:20] <doleyb> Azharn: get package either bittorrent or bittornado
[06:20] <kernel09l> doleyb: file version mismatch.
[06:21] <smotchkkiss> can i make an alias that accepts an argument/param?  e.g., $ my_alias blah      would result in:   cd path/to/blah
[06:21] <lfive> ...
[06:22] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, if in bash, use a function
[06:22] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: i am in bash. how do make a function?
[06:22] <doleyb> kernel09l: well idk what to do about the version problem.  Maybe that version of poweriso is old and you should get a newer one.  Maybe your daa is corrupted.  Maybe you should try acetoneteam.org instead
[06:23] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, been a while... give me a few minutes.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[06:23] <Azharn> doleyb: after I install the package(s)... how do I use them in bash?
[06:24] <Azharn> I only have ssh abilities to the box.
[06:24] <doleyb> Azharn: once they're on, you can type bitdownloadcurses filename.torrent.
[06:24] <doleyb> Azharn: or try dpkg -L bittornado to see what it's programs are called.
[06:25] <sprinkmeier> Dr_Willis, smotchkkiss thanks for the link, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/functions.html looks about right
[06:25] <thefeds> argh ubuntu is shit. 3 year old packages... FAIL
[06:25] <doleyb> Azharn: the name actually btdownloadcurses, no letter i
[06:25] <thefeds> I'm uninstalling this piece of crap
[06:25] <sysdoc> lol
[06:25] <daliang> hello
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> demand a refund...
[06:26] <thefeds> exactly
[06:26] <thefeds> I'll email mark
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> have a nice day..
[06:26] <sysdoc> lol
[06:26] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: i don't see how to pass arguments into the functions ...
[06:26] <sprinkmeier> thefeds, I thinks he's on the ISS again... better get an off-planet e-stamp
[06:26] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:27] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, IIRC things like $1 work inside bash functions
[06:27] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: ok testing :)
[06:27] <thefeds> hey, he can check his email on this ISS
[06:27] <Azharn> doleyb: thanks a bunch, works perfectly :)
[06:27] <thefeds> they have computers there
[06:27] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: gold!
[06:27] <smotchkkiss> sprinkmeier: thanks a million
[06:28] <sprinkmeier> smotchkkiss, thank Dr_Willis , he had the link
[06:28] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:28] <smotchkkiss> thanks dr willis :)
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> memorise that guide now
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:29] <Nalf> nomasteryoda, are you still around? ^_^
[06:29] <sprinkmeier> Dr_Willis, "never memorize what you can look up" Einstein
[06:29] <sprinkmeier> Dr_Willis, I'll definetely bookmark it though :-)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> sprinkmeier,  he had a hard time finding his shoes in the morning..  :) also tended to get the wrong feet...
[06:30] <Nalf> How should I go about reporting/fixing http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30 ?
[06:31] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> daliang,  if you put some spaces around the url , it might bne actually clickable in our chat clients :)
[06:32] <Nalf> http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360 , for daliang. ;]
[06:32] <daliang> hello, i can't install cowpatty,it's detail in the terminal when i "make"        http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/13360
[06:33]  * Nalf chuckles.
[06:33] <daliang> Dr_Willis:Is that's right?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> daliang,  looks like you need some openssl dev files installed.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> md5.c:20:25: error: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory
[06:34] <MrDudle> i downloaded ubuntu and all i got was a winrar folder
[06:34] <MrDudle> with an .iso extension
[06:34] <daliang> but i have installed openssl!
[06:34] <Nalf> !install | MrDudle
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> MrDudle,  no you dident.. You got a silly program called winrar that decided it should be the default for iso files...
[06:34] <MrDudle> ooooooooh
[06:34] <MrDudle> ty Dr_Willis :)
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> MrDudle,   use a program like imgburn to burn it to cd
[06:35] <MrDudle> kk
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> MrDudle,  and write a nasty letter to the rar guys :)
[06:35] <MrDudle> i thought maybe i got a bad file
[06:35] <MrDudle> and Nalf
[06:35] <lstarnes> daliang: what about libssl-dev?
[06:35] <MrDudle> i've installed ubuntu tons of times
[06:35] <MrDudle> i've just never had this happen
[06:35] <FloodBot1> MrDudle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <daliang> Dr_Willis:what's kinds of openssl dev files should i install?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> You  are  seeing what happens with how windows handles default filetypes. and the programs all try to outdo each other. :)
[06:35] <sprinkmeier> MrDudle, use MD5sum to check the file is right and/or use mediacheck when you boot off the CD
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> daliang,  not a clue.. check ghe package manager for 'ssl' and 'dev' and insttall them all perhaps
[06:36] <lstarnes> daliang: libssl-dev contains the development files (such as headers) for openssl
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> !find openssl
[06:36] <mercutio22> I can't compose accents in t kile! i.e. á please help me correct that
[06:36] <sprinkmeier> daliang, "dpkg --search /usr/include/openssl/md5.h" calims it came from libssl-dev
[06:37] <daliang> Dr_Willis:thank you very much i will try
[06:37] <daliang> lstarnes:thank you too
[06:37] <daliang> sprinkmeier: ok
[06:37] <Ndshacker> do you guys have suggestions for good programs?
[06:39] <Nalf> If there is a kernel issue with hardware where do I report it?
[06:39] <chronographer> hi. I have a prob with keyboard. I use a apple alum. keyboard and it's nice. Just recently the numeric keypad stopped working for numbers. It used to work (clear is numlock) now that do't work... anyone familiar with this?
[06:39] <chronographer> please help me troubleshoot it
[06:40] <chronographer> anyone?
[06:40] <doleyb> chronographer: well, run xev and see if pushing numpad does any text
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> troube shooting test #1 - try it in the console.. see if all the keys work..
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> trouble shooting test #2 - try  it on a differnet machine :)
[06:41] <chronographer> (keysym 0xff7f, Num_Lock)
[06:42] <chronographer> hmm... output seems correct
[06:42] <daliang> ubottu:thank you
[06:43] <chronographer> but in , for example, gedit. numbers aren't typed.
[06:43] <Alex_21> Hi, All, I am following https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899, but I forgot to check my partition table. I am now needing to know the "HDa8" in my case, which is differnt. How can I do this?
[06:43] <Alex_21> Different
[06:43] <chronographer> (keysym 0xffb3, KP_3) in xev, but nothing in gedit
[06:44] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:44] <Alex_21> I'm still in the installer
[06:44] <chronographer> works in console too
[06:44] <chronographer> what next?
[06:44] <Alex_21> So I have no access to fdisk
[06:44] <chronographer> it must be gnomes problem?
[06:45] <jaek_> is there a ppa or repo that has the nvidia beta driver? i'd rather not have to install it manually
[06:45] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys have a problem with sharing a folder : http://pastebin.com/m811df2a
[06:45] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, still loading the link you gave to see what you're up to, _slow_ 'net here :-(
[06:45] <Alex_21> Ok, thanks
[06:45] <Alex_21> It is a tricky install
[06:45] <chronographer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=nvidia
[06:46] <zapz> guys help me... I can't boot to my Ubuntu... Since I changed the compizfusion settings...
[06:46] <chronographer> ohletmeinnowjesu: its a permissions problem
[06:47] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, try the mount command with "-o ro" (read-only, just in case) with different device until you trip across the right one?
[06:47] <chronographer> zapz: reconfigure X
[06:47] <zapz> choronographer how? ive been googling it.... no luck
[06:47] <chronographer> Dr_Willis: keyboard works fine in console, and xev reports correct keys, how should I fix it in gnome?
[06:48] <MatthewMPP> I am familiar with linux but new to ubuntu. I have just installed it on my desktop computer and I am impressed with how user friendly it is; however, I can't get ubuntu to mount a cd or dvd.  It just says that there is "no media found".  (Yes, I have a disk in the drive.)  I have googled the issue and it seems to be a common problem, but I could not find the solution on any of the pages I read.  Thx.
[06:48] <chronographer> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    <- I think
[06:48] <Alex_21> I don't know what any devices are at the moment
[06:48] <chronographer> backup your xorg first
[06:48] <Alex_21> Hmm
[06:48] <Ndshacker> What device are you looking for?
[06:48] <zapz> chronographer seems hard, do u have URL's?
[06:48] <chronographer> zapz: first try "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BACKUP
[06:49] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, run "mount" to see if you can find any devices mentioned. Then.... guess?
[06:49] <Ndshacker> Oh, Alex, open up Gparted
[06:49] <Alex_21> I'm looking for the one I need to mount while following https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899 . But mine seems different
[06:49] <chronographer> er...try the above. if it's works, put it back
[06:49] <chronographer> i mean. if it is WORSE put it back
[06:50] <anatashinu> hey
[06:50] <chronographer> that will move your screen settings to a backup and Ubuntu will make new ones (hopefully working new ones)
[06:50] <anatashinu> i just made a usb startup
[06:50] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, the above guide uses /dev/hda implying IDE disks. is the system newer? SATA? should it be /dev/sda?
[06:50] <Alex_21> Ok, so "Mount" on its own will spit out a list of devices?
[06:50] <anatashinu> are you supposed to just use by saying try without doing anything to system?
[06:50] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, yes, it should
[06:50] <Ndshacker> Alex: Open up your partition Manager
[06:51] <Alex_21> I'm still in the installer
[06:51] <Ndshacker> and you can see in graphical form which drives are what
[06:51] <Ndshacker> Oh :|
[06:51] <sprinkmeier> anatashinu, yes, that's a good way to look at Ubuntu w/o changing anything
[06:51] <Alex_21> And also, It is an IDE disk
[06:51] <anatashinu> ok
[06:51] <Ndshacker> when in doubt: Reformat the whole dang thing
[06:51] <anatashinu> but i already have it installed
[06:51] <anatashinu> i just want to have ubuntu portable
[06:51] <mercutio22> I can't type accents in KDE apps. Gnome apps are cool. Can I get some help? It should be easy right?
[06:52] <Alex_21> I'm trying to find the sixth partition on the IDE Drive
[06:52] <anatashinu> so is that how i should do it?
[06:52] <Ndshacker> sda6
[06:52] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, what does mount say? do you have fdisk at all?
[06:52] <Ndshacker> Would be the sixth one on a IDE drive
[06:52] <Ndshacker> assuming you have one drive
[06:52] <sprinkmeier> anatashinu, so you installed from USB and want to run the installed version?
[06:52] <Ndshacker> or its on the first
[06:53] <anatashinu> no.
[06:53] <Ndshacker> my pc wont boot from usb ;(
[06:53] <Alex_21> Unless fdisk is on the Alternate CD, I don't have it
[06:53] <anatashinu> I made a USB startup using the USB startup tool.
[06:53] <anatashinu> I just want it to be a portable version of Ubuntu
[06:53] <Ndshacker> Ah, I hate alternative disks :S
[06:53] <jimijix1> i have a usb hard drive that i can't safely remove in vista, and i'm unable to mount it in linux because of it, how do i mount it?
[06:53] <anatashinu> so should I just use the try option?
[06:54] <Ndshacker> Alex: why do you have 6 partitions?
[06:54] <Alex_21> I have no choice but to leave the thing as is until I can find the solution
[06:54] <sprinkmeier> anatashinu, OK, try the 'live' option (i.e. try it without installing). Note that, onse started, you can actually mount/mess up the existing partitions if you try hardenough :-)
[06:54] <Alex_21> It is a doel boot system
[06:54] <lulzman> hai everyone
[06:54] <Ndshacker> still
[06:54] <anatashinu> ok
[06:54] <Ndshacker> 6?
[06:54] <anatashinu> =)
[06:54] <anatashinu> thanks
[06:54] <Ndshacker> wait
[06:54] <Ndshacker> stop!
[06:55] <FloodBot1> Ndshacker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:55] <Ndshacker> Dual boot?
[06:55] <Ndshacker> What is the other system?
[06:55] <Alex_21> Mac OS 9.2.1. See https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/13899
[06:55] <Ndshacker> mmk
[06:55] <Ndshacker> Im not familiar with Mac
[06:56] <Ndshacker> But shouldnt you be able to see the partiitions in there?
[06:56] <chronographer> what software might change gnome recognising my numeric keypad?
[06:56] <Alex_21> I'm stuck in the Linux installer
[06:56] <fikr> Hi, how to uninstall an application and all of its setting by using Application->Add/Remove?
[06:56] <sprinkmeier> Alex_21, can you run mount?
[06:56] <sugi> if im running a livecd, can i see my harddrive from it?
[06:56] <chronographer> sugi: yes
[06:56] <Ndshacker> then :s
[06:57] <Ndshacker> You may need to hard reboot :s
[06:57] <Alex_21> Yes, I can run mount
[06:57] <Ndshacker> Or just try them all
[06:57] <sugi> chronographer: i can't find it anywhere
[06:57] <fieldse> fikr I think you want to use package manager to see dependencies and uninstall them all, dunno best answer
[06:57] <Ndshacker> then run it
[06:57] <Alex_21> I will
[06:57] <chronographer> places - computer.
[06:57] <sugi> chronographer: it's not in /media folder, or within nautilus
[06:57] <Alex_21> I have to wait for an assistant as the shel in the installer has no text to speech
[06:58] <Alex_21> Assistance, sorry
[06:58] <MatthewMPP> I have a question about ubuntu.
[06:58] <Ndshacker> mmk
[06:58] <sugi> chronographer: it just show me my two cd drives, and the filesystem *from the livecd*
[06:58] <chronographer> check in gparted
[06:58] <Alex_21> You have to mount the local HD
[06:59] <Alex_21> Lol
[06:59] <Ndshacker>  mount -l -t type
[06:59] <Ndshacker> Try that
[06:59] <Ndshacker> shout show it all including file systems
[06:59] <Nalf> Can someone see if they know anything about http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30 ?
[06:59] <Alex_21> then why include -t type?
[06:59] <Ndshacker> If you want to search for a specific type
[07:00] <Ndshacker> I would geuss you would look for raw
[07:00] <Ndshacker> Since it is a dual boot
[07:00] <sugi> Ndshacker: who are you talking to?  put their name infront of it.
[07:00] <fikr> fieldse: oh, is there simpler way??
[07:00] <Ndshacker> Sugi: ok, sorry
[07:00] <fieldse> fikr Not sure! Would like to know if you find out though...
[07:00] <sugi> Ndshacker: no probelm at all :D  it sounds like your helping me :p
[07:00] <Ndshacker> Alex: when in doubt of a command type man in front of it :)
[07:00] <Alex_21> Ok, Thanks
[07:01] <Alex_21> Lol
[07:01] <Ndshacker> np
[07:01] <Alex_21> I'll have to wait as I said
[07:01] <fieldse> fikr there usually is, but finding it sometimes can be more trouble than never knowing, lol
[07:01] <sugi> chronographer: wow, i think my harddrive got toasted.  ubuntu isn't picking it up.
[07:01] <Ndshacker> Alex: Well, better to have a "battle plan"
[07:01] <chronographer> not in gparted? not in fdisk -l ??
[07:02] <Ndshacker> Sugi: YOur main HDD?
[07:02] <sugi> chronographer: will do, thanks fo the tip
[07:02] <Alex_21> Yes, too true. Lol. Why not include TTS on the Sheel durring install?
[07:02] <sugi> Ndshacker: yea, my main harddrive.  it's not being picked up at all. let me see if my bios can even see it
[07:03] <Ndshacker> If not, try other disk utilites
[07:03] <MatthewMPP> Mac uses weird partitions I just messed up an old apple laptop a couple of days ago.
[07:03] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Once I had a HDD that even the windows installer wouldnt catch, but a bottable partitioner did
[07:04] <Alex_21> Lol, too true
[07:04] <chronographer> MatthewMPP: i have been having issues trying to install osx86 lately, usually partition crap. cant boot after install!
[07:04] <Alex_21> I wish it wasn't an old-world Mac
[07:04] <Ndshacker> Thats the only type of OS ive never tried :\ OSX
[07:04] <MatthewMPP> I had the same problem.  I eventually gave up on it.
[07:04] <Alex_21> It is the best
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Except I cant run it
[07:05] <Alex_21> The same problem as who?
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Me being 14, I dont have money to shell out
[07:05] <fieldse> >> Greetings all:  Quick call:  Recommendations for favorite IRC servers / channels? (linux, alternative distros, general chat, community)
[07:05] <chronographer> Ndshacker: try osx86!
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Naw
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Ill run it in a virtual PC
[07:05] <Ndshacker> Not worth Dual booting, just to try it
[07:05] <Flynsarmy> Somehow flash player disappeared from firefox. how do i get it back again?
[07:06] <Ndshacker> Fly: go to a flash website and tell it to install
[07:06] <Alex_21> Thanks all for the help
[07:06] <Alex_21> Good night
[07:06] <Ndshacker> Night
[07:06] <sugi> Ndshacker: i have two pcs. one for linux and one for windows.  my windows computer is a lot older then my linux one.  so you can guess i use my linux one more.  this is problem the main issue, but i don't really keep my window's computer up to date including hte anti-virus software.  i put a file on my comptuer and explorer.exe crahed on me. and kept on crashing.
[07:06] <Ndshacker> Sugi: That sucks
[07:07] <MatthewMPP> I could not reboot the apple laptop after installing Debian on it.  It sees the "yaboot" and gives me a command prompt but thats all it does.
[07:07] <sugi> Ndshacker: so i pop in my linux disc to see if it can see my harddrive. because windows wasn't picking it up.  so i think the window's partiton is trashed.  i doubt my hdd is trashed, but man.  this virus is doing something in
[07:07] <Ndshacker> Sugi: May I reccomend reformating the whole thing?
[07:08] <Flynsarmy> Ndshacker, A later version is available in a software channel. should i get the one from adobe website or the one in my software channel?
[07:08] <ardiansyah> ;;;;;;
[07:08] <Ndshacker> Fly: Software Channel if you can
[07:08] <b4chip> hi there. Lets say i have a public IP adress and a domain name, I wish to host myself that domain name. How to do that? I was trying to change the nameservers to my IP but this doen't work.
[07:08] <Ndshacker> Eh?
[07:09] <Ndshacker> b4chip: are you asking about hosting a wbsite on your Pc?
[07:09] <b4chip> Ndshacker: yes
[07:09] <Ndshacker> b4chip: do you understand the risks?
[07:09] <b4chip> Ndshacker: do u know how to do it?
[07:09] <sugi> Ndshacker: oh im going to. ii was having some issues on it before, but like i said, my window's computer is not at the toip of my to-do list.  so i let a lot of things go.   I have nothign important on my MAIN harddrive expect for ONE document. Hahahah and i kid you not. everythign of importance is on my second hdd for the time being is unplugged.  just incase.  if possible I NEED that one document. hahhaha im on a conquest
[07:10] <zapz> guys how can I disable my COmpiz in Terminal?
[07:10] <Ndshacker> Sugi
[07:10] <Ndshacker> There are ways to get it back:
[07:10] <sugi> Ndshacker: yes sir?
[07:11] <Ndshacker> Once you can see it, format it but dont reinstall, plug it in to your pc as a secondary, and use a recovery program
[07:11] <Ndshacker> b4chip: Yes I know how to do it
[07:11] <Ndshacker> Sugi: It is imperative you dont put anything on it once you get it formatted
[07:11] <Circs> I'm looking for a PCI wifi card that will work without much hackery in Ubuntu 8.04, any help please? I'd like to stay with linksys
[07:11] <sugi> Ndshacker: oh i know. if i need to i can use data recover programs.  but I have to say i wasn't planning on spending the rest of my weeken fixing my crapping window's partition
[07:12] <Ndshacker> :D
[07:12] <mgolisch> format it?
[07:12] <mgolisch> why that?
[07:12] <Ndshacker> Eh?
[07:12] <sugi> Ndshacker: im thinking about dbanning the partition after getting that file.  have you hard of this?
[07:12] <Ndshacker> Because he has a dterimental virus
[07:12] <mgolisch> oh i see
[07:12] <Ndshacker> Sugi: I cant say I have, sorry, im only 14 after all :)
[07:13] <sugi> Ndshacker: hahah you should look into.  im pretty sure it's unix based. but please for the love of everything holy, don't hold me to it.
[07:14] <Ndshacker> Sugi: From what I see on google, wait until after you get the file back. It looks like its a massive type of Data Eraser :s
[07:14] <hwsmsm> 1122222
[07:14] <Ndshacker> And after a good Gutman, you aint getting that file back
[07:14] <fieldse> sugi
[07:15] <fieldse> sugi: your issue: you have virus took out windows pc, you want to recover 1 file but don't want to spend weekend on it, right?
[07:15] <sugi> Ndshacker: yes it is.  it's very good for makign sure those nasty virus won't come back.  if anythign a reformat, which I have never had the personal of having one. this being my second virus of reasonable damage
[07:15] <sugi> fieldse: yes sir
[07:16] <rideback> hello all
[07:16] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Considering Linux's virus capabilities, I think You can risk plugging it in BEFORE Dbanning it
[07:16] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys
[07:16] <Ndshacker> but back up all your files just incase
[07:16] <rideback> i'm trying to compile but i get
[07:16] <rideback> checking for gcc... gcc
[07:16] <rideback> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:16] <rideback> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[07:16] <FloodBot1> rideback: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <fieldse> @sugi - I had to recover fragged XP install, which is how I got into linux (this month).  I got a ubuntu recovery disk, had ALL kinds of goodies, so I was able to back up files
[07:17] <sugi> i would like to address everyone on this matter, i am sorry for my poor english and grammer issues. let me know if i am unclear on specialize topic
[07:17] <Reidy> Can I get some technical help from someone please?
[07:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> can some one explain to me the difference between owner, group & users fields within the permissions field for a given file/folder?
[07:17] <Ndshacker> Sugi: I hadnt even noticed, honestly
[07:17] <Nephilus> I to need help
[07:18] <sugi> Ndshacker: good good, i did, but if i am the only one. then thats oh kay.
[07:18] <mgolisch> ohletmeinnowjesu: whats unclear about those?
[07:18] <Nephilus> When I open sites that require flash such as youtube or pandora I get a black-gray screen instead of the vid etc. Any ideas?
[07:18] <fieldse> @sugi - get a linux recovery disk, you should be able to boot and see your windows files, back it up onto a floppy/usb, then: format/reinstall.  Shouldn't take you more than a couple hours
[07:18] <Ndshacker> oh: Owner is the absolute master, you set it via command line with the chown commands, Groups are so that more than one person can have the same priveleges without setting each one manually, users are for one persons priveleges
[07:19] <grant2823> I've got a problem with wine: when I run a program nothing happens. Here's the pastebin for running it from the command line
[07:19] <grant2823> http://pastebin.com/d22186f0f
[07:19] <tarokun> anyone knows any decent file hosters?
[07:19] <sugi> fieldse: i have recover programs on windows and trouble shooting, reformatting softwae on both windows and linux so either is fine by me.  if you have any pesonal picks please share with me those goodies applications you used in ubuntu's OS
[07:19] <mgolisch> you cant set multiple user permissiions anyways
[07:19] <Nephilus> Is there a server for linux mint? lol
[07:19] <mgolisch> unless you enable acls
[07:19] <Reidy> I'm trying to figure out why my download speeds for updating and such are super slow. Anyone have any ideas? I've checked my internet, reset the router and modem, and nothing is improving..
[07:19] <mgolisch> which shouldnt be by default
[07:19] <fieldse> @nephilus what version flash you using? and what browser? (firefox i assume?)
[07:19] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:19] <fieldse> @sugi sure, one sec
[07:19] <rideback> any one
[07:19] <rideback> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:19] <Nephilus> Fieldse: firefox and the newest flash
[07:19] <fieldse> @sugi coffee break but will find link to recovery disk
[07:20] <magnetron> !mint | Nephilus
[07:20] <Ndshacker> may I reccomend OphCrack?
[07:20] <pseudomorph> does anyone know why the installer for 8.10 won't see my hdd even though it boots fine and can be seen in parted magic etc
[07:20] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: thnx
[07:20] <fieldse> @nephilus make sure you've got flash 10 plugin on firefox. reinstall if need be, that did it for me
[07:20] <Ndshacker> Sugi: I use knoppix
[07:20] <sugi> fieldse: Ndshacker:  about half the time, my windows computer freeeze at the logo splash screen of the bios, and the over half it loggs into windows, but then bluue screens.  I have notice this same blue screen issue while trying to scan with my anti-virus apllication either in safe mode or normal user of windows
[07:20] <Nephilus> Okay I'll try that
[07:21] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Get rid of that windows install, it sounds like its fubared
[07:21] <Reidy> Anyone for me?
[07:21] <zapz> guys how can I disable my COmpizfusion in Terminal?
[07:21] <sprinkmeier> Reidy, are you using the closest/fastest repos?
[07:21] <Ndshacker> sugo Apt-get remove Compiz compiz-core
[07:22] <Ndshacker> *sudo
[07:22] <Ndshacker> ignore the caps >.<
[07:22] <grant2823> I'm having trouble running programs with wine. Here's the error: http://pastebin.com/d22186f0f
[07:22] <Reidy> Just installed Ubuntu after Vista wouldn't go back on, go figure, so repos has something to do with servers or something?
[07:22] <sugi> Ndshacker: i broke my linux cherry with KDE, but found my true love with gnome. if XFCE can get their act together and get some of those "duh" feature working, i would commit to xfce in a second.  actually i always have a both GUI installed :D
[07:22] <magnetron> !wine | grant2823
[07:23] <zapz> what does it do > deleting my compiz?
[07:23] <RickZilla> Having a really tough time getting sound out of audacity in ubuntu. I installed lame, and I get sound just fine in other apps. Tried different combinations of output devices in preferences, but still no luck. Any ideas of what to check for next?
[07:23] <Ndshacker> yes
[07:23] <zapz> what does it do > deleting my compiz? Ndshacker
[07:23] <sprinkmeier> Reidy, yes. they're mirrors of the official packages. Use Synaptic properties to find/set the closest one
[07:23] <Ndshacker> That will uninstall it
[07:23] <lstarnes> zapz: that will remove compiz's packages
[07:23] <zapz> whhhaaa... okay I'll just download it again.....
[07:23] <Ndshacker> If you want to be specific :|
[07:23] <ninsei> anyone know of a good tutorial on using SLI in Ubuntu?
[07:23] <lstarnes> zapz: it may be safer to just disable it rather than removing it complerely
[07:23] <lstarnes> *completely
[07:24] <zapz> I can't boot to my ubuntu since I change a settings in my compiz
[07:24] <zapz> hahahhahah.... whhhaaa I already did
[07:24] <Ndshacker> hahaha
[07:24] <fieldse> aha! sugi: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:24] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse:  darn I have this file backed on my on linux computer, but I am unsure if it's updated. this is starting to bug me now. and my windows computer is havign some sort of heart-attacking
[07:24] <Reidy> @ Sprinkmeier: So I just go into System > Synaptic Package Manager > ?? Then what?
[07:24] <sugi> fieldse: thank you sir. i am browsing it now
[07:25] <zapz> lstarnes in case I want to disable it... what should i do?
[07:25] <sprinkmeier> Reidy, settings, repositories, click on "download from"
[07:25] <Ndshacker> sugi: if you have it backed up, try the link he gave you, and save that
[07:25] <Ndshacker> then you can marge them if the file is corrupted
[07:25] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse: now my computer is telling me that there is now such harddrive to load the OS off of. nice
[07:25] <Ndshacker> *merge
[07:26] <Ndshacker> that srsly sucks
[07:26] <fieldse> @sugi: lol! haha... yeah.  Just boot up with that CD.. or hell, you don't really even need to use a recovery CD, honestly. but boot up with CD on windows machine, mount windows HD. won't take 30 mins if you're lucky
[07:27] <Ndshacker> I reinstall Ubuntu in under an hour
[07:27] <Ndshacker> So this should take no time at all
[07:27] <sugi> fieldse: this website and recover application is only directed towards GNU/UNIX base OS correct?
[07:27] <zapz> lstarnes in case I want to disable it... what should i do?
[07:27] <Arelis_> Hello people. I am about to install Ubuntu onto my mac mini, but the automatic partition tool didn't quite work so well so i used manual partitioning. However what partitions should i add? I have a swap partition of 4GB, now what?
[07:28] <Ndshacker> Arelis, thatw ay to much swap
[07:28] <lstarnes> zapz: give me a few minutes to find that out please
[07:28] <Arelis_> Ndshacker: i have 2GB of RAM
[07:28] <Ndshacker> If you have a half decent amount of ram 51 2 mb, you only need 1 gb
[07:28] <Ndshacker> The nyou prob dont need any
[07:28] <Ndshacker> butgo with 1
[07:28] <Arelis_> "The size of your swap should be equal to twice your computer's physical 	RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM. For physical RAM above 2 GB, the 	size of your swap should be equal to the amount of physical RAM above 2 	GB.  Best solution unless you have a hard drive full of important info that you have to save
[07:29] <Arelis_> Ndshacker: Would having a too big swap partition hurt?
[07:29] <Ndshacker> That is a flawed formula, if I have 8 GB of ram, I sure as hell dont need 10 Gb of swap
[07:29] <Ndshacker> no
[07:30] <Ndshacker> but 3 GB of extra swap is just stupid :\
[07:30] <Arelis_> Okay, i'll just keep it 4GB then. But after the swap partition, what else do i need to add?
[07:30] <fieldse> @sugi: You could try to recover system with antivirus, but ... why go through the effort?
[07:30] <Ndshacker> A Ext3 Filesystem mounted at /
[07:30] <quibbler> zapz: look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574092
[07:30] <Arelis_> What about /boot?
[07:30] <Ndshacker> that will be the install partition
[07:30] <Ndshacker> no need for anything else
[07:30] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, the "double RAM" rule is from the time before people got too impatient to actually use swap. these days if you're using swap, get more RAM. As for other partitions, just a single / will do. More partitions than that is for servers, not laptops.
[07:31] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: thanks for the link, i now know how to change permissions for groups/owners...but I still dont know the difference between them
[07:31] <fieldse> @sugi It worked enough to save my windows machine data
[07:31] <zapz> thanks
[07:31] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: how do i check the current user/group list?
[07:31] <ninsei> Does anyone else here run SLI in Ubuntu?
[07:31] <sprinkmeier> ohletmeinnowjesu, run "id"
[07:32] <Ndshacker> system > administration >users and groups
[07:32] <Arelis_> I want to create a /home partition. What size should / be?
[07:32] <sugi> fieldse: downloading it right now. hahha i didn't know there was a wget for windws base OS.  i Would love that feature in my dos command prompt
[07:32] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Thanks
[07:32] <Ndshacker> wget is an extra download :)
[07:32] <pseudomorph> ok, scrollback doesn't seem to be working so sorry if someone answered this. Does anyone have an idea why I cannot see my primary hdd in the ubuntu partition tool when installing?
[07:32] <zapz> guys how about this I cant set my Visual effects to normal.... "it said that Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[07:32] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, I wouldn't. Just make / take up all the space. add /boot if the installer thinks you should (100M should be plenty)
[07:33] <lstarnes> zapz: did you remove compiz?
[07:33] <zapz> yup
[07:33] <hateball> Arelis_: 10GB should be well enough for /, the rest for /home
[07:33] <Ndshacker> O.O
[07:33] <lstarnes> zapz: you will need to reinstall compiz for that to work
[07:33] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse:  darn, my bios can not see the hard drive all together.  this will cause some problems
[07:33] <bn43> zapz: what graphics card do you have?
[07:33] <Ndshacker> yeah :s
[07:33] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: 10GB.. I don't think that would be enough for all the applications
[07:34] <Ndshacker> hell no
[07:34] <fieldse> Hey! @ Everyone re: Swapfile partition not really necessary unless you're using hibernate / sleep, right? It seems a waste of a primary partition. Is there an alternative?
[07:34] <zapz> okay.... Im using intel.. blah graphics card
[07:34] <Ndshacker> Fieldse: go with 1 gb
[07:34] <Ndshacker> unless you have 4 gb or greater
[07:34] <sugi> fieldse: the swap partition??/
[07:34] <fieldse> lol @zapz
[07:34] <Ndshacker> I personaly never hit swap, but my firefox is tweaked to the max :)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> fieldse,  You could make a swap file if you want.. but a partition is more effficient
[07:35] <sugi> fieldse: you think it's a waste of hard drive space if your not using a sleep funcation?  is this what oyu are asking?
[07:35] <zapz> whhhaaaa...
[07:35] <zapz> at least I booted into my ubuntu
[07:35] <doleyb> fieldse: swap partition is not for suspending during power-off.  It is so a program which runs out of RAM can keep going.
[07:35] <ohletmeinnowjesu> so how do i chmod a certain file to be available to only a certain type of users?
[07:35] <Ndshacker> Sugi: Hes asking for alternatives,
[07:35] <bn43> Ndshacker: how have you tweaked ur firefox?  I sometimes have firefox using 300mb ram at a time!
[07:35] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: So a /home partition would cause problems?
[07:36] <Ndshacker> bn43: lol
[07:36] <sugi> Ndshacker: ahhhh i see.
[07:36] <Ndshacker> bn43: mine uses 65 mb and runs faster than most :)
[07:36] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu you may mean chown
[07:36] <fieldse> @sugi, dr_willis, ndshacker - I mean, I have 3 partitions already on my HD, so if I didn't have to use a partition for swapfile, it would be useful to me to have a 4th partition free
[07:36] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, my / is 100G and it's half full, I do a lot of stuffing around, storing backups etc. I have a user junk partition (730G). partitioning before knowing exactly how big each partition should be  will jsut ause problems later.
[07:36] <bn43> Ndshacker: how??
[07:36] <Ndshacker> Theres a guide
[07:36] <fieldse> @doleyb I was reading that it was necessary for sleep function though.. is this incorrect?
[07:36] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Yes, but i don't have any good tools for backupping
[07:36] <zapz> so in installing compiz ..... I should type = Apt-get install Compiz compiz-core .... ayt?
[07:36] <bn43> give!
[07:37] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse:  I may take a break on this, as I might be more willing to tweak and fix this issue tomorrow hahahhaha. but i am still downloading this unix base recover software and going to see if i can at least get my computer to see my hard drive.
[07:37] <Ndshacker> Search google for "Speed up firefox, ABout:config"
[07:37] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: A /home partition seems convenient to me. However, i want to keep installing applications
[07:37] <n2diy> ohletmeinnowjesu: make the file available to the "group,
[07:37] <fieldse> @sugi lol ... ah, yeah good luck
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> zapz,  linux is case SeNeSeTiVe :) be sure to get the case CorrEct
[07:37] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, tar and an external drive is all you need. actually, backuppc is _fantastic_, I'l look into it.
[07:37] <Ndshacker> Sugi: seey a man
[07:37] <lstarnes> zapz: no, sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:37] <Ndshacker> I use keep
[07:37] <fieldse> @sugi : It will work, no worries
[07:38] <sugi> Ndshacker: fieldse: im not done yet. but i just letting you know i may throw the tower in soon (real soon) hahhahaha
[07:38] <zapz> okay
[07:38] <fieldse> lol
[07:38] <Ndshacker> hahaha
[07:38] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Oh, yeah, true, i DO have the tools. An external drive. I didn't use it to backup my mac, because time machine wipes the filesystem off the external drive and it's loaded full with stuff i may not delete.
[07:38] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: user@host:/home/user$ sudo chown tux:penguins foobar
[07:38] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: thanks :)
[07:38] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, as I said, you can add a home partition, but if you guess wrong on how big it should be then you're either wasting disk-space or limiting what you can in stall or both. I don;t bother with a seperate /home these days.
[07:38] <Ndshacker> skype uses more than firefox O.O
[07:38] <Nalf> http://pastebin.com/m74ef2d30  -- my wireless usb adapter... any ideas on how to fix
[07:38] <zapz> installing... :D thanks to the community
[07:39] <Ndshacker> how can I disable Nautilus? <---- is it necesary?
[07:39] <Reidy> So, my download speeds have yet to improve. I've tried repository servers from my own state, and now I'm on some random one. I need any help I can get. My speeds are downloading at an average of 25-30kb/s..
[07:39] <n2diy> sprinkmeier: how do you backup your stuff without /home?
[07:39] <Ndshacker> ouch
[07:39] <Reidy> My internet is not the problem, it is just fine...
[07:39] <lstarnes> Ndshacker: if you disable nautilus and you use gnome, you will not be able to browse files or have a desktop background
[07:39] <fieldse> @ndshacker, sugi - lol at "throw in the tower"... I think that's a new spin on the old phrase, but highly appropriate
[07:39] <Ndshacker> Istarnes: Its worth 50 b :p
[07:39] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: Okay. Now i have these partitions: /dev/sda1 (EFI (Mac boot partition)), /dev/sda2 (HFS+ (Mac partition)), /dev/sda3 (SWAP), /dev/sda4 (Ext3 (/)). Is this okay? And if i continue, will this overwrite my mac's MBR?
[07:39] <Ndshacker> *mb
[07:40] <Ndshacker> It might
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> macs have a mbr?
[07:40] <Ndshacker> but I doubt it
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> i thought the efi stuff dident work that way
[07:40] <lstarnes> Ndshacker: gnome is rather notorious for being somewhat bloated (and your font confuses lowercase L with uppercase i)
[07:40] <Ndshacker> Yeah :s
[07:40] <sugi> fieldse: im glad you got that pun, i thought it was a little corn :p
[07:40] <Ndshacker> it ses more than firefox ;(
[07:41] <fieldse> sugi lol.... wasn't sure if it was a japanification or an intention pun, but my hat's off to you
[07:41] <pseudomorph> Sorry if someone answered this. Does anyone have an idea why I cannot see my primary hdd in the 8.10 partition tool when installing? The drive boots fine and shows up in 7.04 and parted magic
[07:42] <rideback> hello again  i really need help my gcc isnt working
[07:42] <lstarnes> rideback: in what way is it not working?
[07:42] <sprinkmeier> Arelis_, I've never played with a max, you're on your own :-)
[07:42] <rideback> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:42] <Arelis_> sprinkmeier: It seems i skipped a very important step. I need to reboot for that. Bye. (Maybe i'll be back for more support)
[07:43] <lstarnes> rideback: install build-essential
[07:43] <rideback> i'll try
[07:43] <sprinkmeier> n2diy, I use backuppc to do all my backups and occasionally copy the tarballs to an external drive
[07:43] <Ndshacker> I use AptonCd once a week
[07:43] <Ndshacker> so that I can reinstall at any time
[07:44] <n2diy> sprinkmeier: have you ueed sbackup?
[07:45] <Reid1> Anyone know how to fix my download speeds?
[07:45] <Ndshacker> you can tweak some files
[07:45] <Ndshacker> but I dont know if You should do that :)
[07:46] <sprinkmeier> n2diy, no. link? gotta go run an errand, back in a while
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: ok, well heres my situation whenever I try to share a folder on my ntfs partition using rightclick-share I get this : http://pastebin.com/m6112c63b . Im wondering if
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowjesu> 1. I need to sudo edit the smb.conf file to allow general access (like it suggests) or
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowjesu> 2. "Chown" the directory to my account from root and then try re-sharing it again
[07:46] <koshari> Ndshacker partimage and rsync are prolly a little more practical than aptoncd, aptoncd only backs up deb packages,
[07:47] <Ndshacker> :s
[07:47] <Ndshacker> Probably, but I only need my Deb files
[07:47] <ninsei> anybody know anything about running SLI video cards in Linux?
[07:47] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu depends on the dir/file what are the current permissians,
[07:47] <Ndshacker> Everything else is stored on Flash Drives, or External Harddrives
[07:49] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: rwx for root & root
[07:49] <Ndshacker> sudo su
[07:49] <zapz> guys another....stupid question of mine, how do I start the ubuntu, when I am in terminal .... STARTX wont start the ubuntu
[07:49] <Ndshacker> just go up and hit Resume :)
[07:49] <ohletmeinnowjesu> zapz: start xwin ?
[07:50] <lstarnes> zapz: you already have ubuntu started, just not the desktop environment.  Try running sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:50] <wyatt-ch> what do you mean start ubuntu?zapz
[07:50] <zapz> start ubuntu.... I hit the ctrl+alt+f7 now I want to go back
[07:51] <lstarnes> zapz: try ctrl+alt+f1
[07:51] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu what about groups
[07:51] <zapz> nothing happens.... ctrl+alt+f1
[07:51] <jim_p> hi people
[07:51] <bn43> zapz: try ctrl+alt+f7
[07:51] <zapz> still in terminal mode ..... after ctrl+alt+f1
[07:52] <zapz> thats it!
[07:52] <koshari> Ndshacker if you dont want to muck round with optical dics you can make a personal repo.
[07:53] <sugi> Ndshacker: are you still on within this channel?
[07:53] <Ndshacker> yes
[07:54] <Ndshacker> Personal repo?
[07:54] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: ?
[07:54] <jim_p> today i thought i can act brave and install atis drivers from the .run file they provide. bad idea. when i move my windows or scroll, i get ripples and this is some error in dmesg >>    http://pastebin.com/d61571ebf   any ideas are welcome
[07:54] <Ndshacker> how do I do that?
[07:54] <sugi> Ndshacker: i think i have the most recent back of that file
[07:54] <Ndshacker> great!
[07:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: drwxrwxrwx 1 root root       0 2008-06-02 13:44 uoastuff
[07:55] <Ndshacker> !root
[07:55] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: thats what I get when I ls the parent directory of the folder I wanna samba-share
[07:55] <sugi> Ndshacker: i think i am ready to reformat. or double check everything.
[07:56] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: think that means owner = root, group = root & their rw perm is rwx
[07:56] <gert_> Hello
[07:57] <Ndshacker> have fun
[07:57] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu you seem to have read write and exe permissians for root, groups and others so i cant se it being a permissians issue,
[07:58] <Ndshacker> i have to reboot soon
[07:58] <n2diy> I have a Seagate 80m hdd that came out of an HP Pavillion 734n, and it is labeled as an OEM drive. I can't get it to play with Ubuntu, it keeps crashing the installer.I like to low level format it, but the ms-dos debug commands I'm used to using, don't work in gdb, ideas?
[07:59] <SomePriest> I can click and drag a window very fast about the screen, and the redraw rate is very high.    What can cause this?
[07:59] <SomePriest> Is FF for Linux just nasty slow?
[07:59] <extuser> n2diy: can you boot up the livecd?  the ubuntu livecd has gparted on it.
[07:59] <koshari> SomePries not here
[07:59] <Ndshacker> FF on linux can be slow
[07:59] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: right but (assuming i interpreted the ls-l o/p right that is) the only people that have rwx authorizations are 1. the owner = root 2.People in the group = root....im trying to share the folder while logged in a different account
[07:59] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu:  sudo chown root:user$ foobar
[07:59] <Ndshacker> Luckily we are getting Google Chrome soon
[08:00] <Ndshacker> So just suck it up for a bit :)
[08:00] <rideback> dependeci is driving me crazy !!
[08:00] <mantis_> Hi guys. I'm trying to set up a fileserver using samba. It's just for my home network. I'd like clients to _not_ be asked for passwords. So far, clients can see the server, but the server continues to ask for passwords.
[08:00] <n2diy> extuser: tried that, no luck.
[08:00] <mantis_> And idea how I can drop the password requirement ?
[08:00] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, This is on a freshly installed Ubuntu box...  But its NASTY, makes me want to install Windows again.
[08:00] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: whats that do?
[08:00] <rideback> i'm installing build-essential but it has alot of dependeci
[08:00] <JackPhil> can i put username/password into a openvpn client  config file
[08:00] <extuser> n2diy: no luck what? won't boot the livecd?
[08:00] <Ndshacker> O.O that bad?
[08:00] <ohletmeinnowjesu> quibbler: change all ownership to my login?
[08:00] <JackPhil> so i can auto login the remote server
[08:00] <rideback> what can i do?
[08:00] <Ndshacker> check yoour internet speed?
[08:01] <SomePriest> JackPhil, Just cache the passphrase at client-side.
[08:01] <n2diy> rideback: install with synaptic.
[08:01] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, Me?
[08:01] <Ndshacker> yes you
[08:01] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu others has read write exe permissans as well as group and owner, others is everyone else.
[08:01] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, A solid 6 Mbps
[08:02] <JackPhil> SomePriest, could you tell me how to do?
[08:02] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu effectively its been cmod 777ed
[08:02] <Ndshacker> wow
[08:02] <rideback> n2diy how?
[08:02] <n2diy> extuser: tried that, no luck, with gparted.
[08:02] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, But I'm talking about scrolling of pages that are downloaded.
[08:02] <koshari> chmod
[08:02] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: then why cant I share it?
[08:02] <n2diy> rideback: are you in X, or at a command line?
[08:02] <Ndshacker> I would say uninstall and reinstall firefox
[08:02] <rideback> the problem is their in synaptic
[08:02] <ohletmeinnowjesu> koshari: http://pastebin.com/m63424fe4
[08:02] <rideback> i've try both
[08:02] <Ndshacker> But im 99% sure you cant in Linux
[08:03] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, Depends what the client machine is running.  If its a Windows box, for example, you can use pageant (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html).
[08:03] <drecon> anyone any idea why I get a failed to mount error plugging in my usb?
[08:03] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: foobar is the file root: is group  user% is th3 user you want to have use the file
[08:03] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, I'm sure there is a *nix equiv, never had the pleasure though.
[08:03] <n2diy> rideback: did you try apt-get?
[08:03] <rideback> yes
[08:03] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: do chown --help and read
[08:03] <extuser> n2diy: does gparted complain? erorr message? or does it act like it's formatting without issues.
[08:03] <SomePriest> Ndshacker, Can't what in Linux?
[08:04] <Ndshacker> Uninstall  Firfox
[08:04] <SomePriest> Also, I note that DVD's are very grainy in VLC, but VLC plays DivX files with great clarity.
[08:04] <quibbler> ohletmeinnowjesu: do chown --help and read  if you want file & directories use chown -hR
[08:05] <koshari> ohletmeinnowjesu i suspect it may be a ntfs permissians thing, can you share a parent and symlink the folder from there?
[08:05] <n2diy> extuser: I don't remember, let give it a try now. Hardy, Dapper, and I, have been arguing with this drive for two days now.
[08:06] <SomePriest> Who was it that said Linux is getting Chrome soon?  I hope they're not holding their breath  :)
[08:06] <bn43> SomePriest: have u installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[08:06] <extuser> n2diy: keep in mind that when you run gparted you can "expand" the details section of the dialog that shows when it's working. if you expand it enough you'll get the actual command line tools and parameters (and maybe errors too?)
[08:06] <SomePriest> bn43, Why?
[08:07] <bn43> SomePriest: installs all necessary codecs for media play
[08:07] <bn43> among other things
[08:07] <SomePriest> bn43, I can play DVDs, they just look grainy and slightly oversaturated.  DivX files look wonderful though.
[08:07] <rideback> n2diy
[08:08] <rideback> can i post the return of command apt-get
[08:08] <Ndshacker> Don't worry, Im back :)
[08:08] <n2diy> extuser: gparted shows the drive as 74.5g, with 1.3g in use.
[08:08] <n2diy> rideback: use pastebin
[08:08] <n2diy> ! pastebin | rideback
[08:09] <extuser> n2diy: so what's the issue, you want to do a low level format of the entire drive and you can't. i lost perspective as to what the original issue is. soory.
[08:09] <fieldse> neat
[08:10] <jim_p> today i thought i can act brave and install atis drivers from the .run file they provide. bad idea. when i move my windows or scroll, i get ripples and this is some error in dmesg >>    http://pastebin.com/d61571ebf   any ideas are welcome
[08:10] <n2diy> extuser: I can't install Ubuntu on the drive, it crashes the installer. And I'm suspect of the 1.3 gig that is in use, what is using it?
[08:11] <SomePriest> jim_p, I'm spent the last two hours playing with ubuntu's fglrx, ati's binary from their site, ati's binary from the 3rd party installer, and I think the performance of them all is bloody terrible.
[08:11] <tavish> ia ma having problem with my sound, there are no devices in preferences->sound. but asoundconf list gives my sound card intel. and alsactl names gives nothing
[08:12] <jim_p> SomePriest, well i agree with it, but i cant have radeon on my 3850
[08:12] <jim_p> :(
[08:12] <extuser> n2diy: shouldn't matter. if the hdd is functioning ok, and gparted can access it, it should be able to wipe all partitions and recreate them.
[08:12] <hypernewbie> Hi guys, I'm back with KDE 3 and all my problems solved!
[08:12] <wolter> hey hypernewbie, you were having problems with kde4?
[08:12] <hypernewbie> Can anyone help me get my wg111v2 wireless dongle working?
[08:12] <extuser> n2diy: i have had isues with hard rives that are not getting adequate power.  but that is usually with usb2ide powered hard drives and usually only with hdd's >200GB
[08:13] <hypernewbie> wolter: yeh, my problem WAS kde4 ;)
[08:13] <wolter> hypernewbie, heh, why? why is kde3 better? (iam a gnome user)
[08:13] <hypernewbie> (yes for wg111v2 i tried the ndiswrapper solution
[08:13] <hypernewbie> wolter: i dont want start KDE4 bashing, so its personal preference, and not wanting KDE Vista Ultimate
[08:14] <jim_p> SomePriest, what gpu are you on?
[08:15] <wiggles> hi
[08:15] <wolter> hypernewbie, pm
[08:15] <n2diy> extuser: ok, I'm on a desktop, so power shouldn't be an issue. In gparted, I just selected the partition, and deleted it, but, gparted isn't responding.
[08:15] <wiggles> anyone got a oneliner for those who have apache installed, and wanna code php/mqsql ?
[08:15] <SomePriest> jim_p, x850 xt
[08:15] <jim_p> SomePriest, you can use the radeon driver and still have 3d i think, dont complain :P
[08:16] <SomePriest> jim_p, Its the slow 2D that I'm worried about  :)
[08:16] <jim_p> SomePriest, slow in 2d? as in...?
[08:16] <extuser> n2diy: doesn't sound good. i'd leave it for a while.... maybe it's busy. but if it is actually locked up, then maybe there's a driver issue, or maybe the hdd itself is having errors
[08:16] <SomePriest> jim_p, Or maybe what I'm seeing is as good is can be provided under Linux.  Not sure.  I seem to recall Fedora was much fater.
[08:17] <SomePriest> jim_p, As in slow redrawing of text when windows are moved or scrolled.
[08:17] <CosmiChaos> Has anybody a conclusion on how to block these russian porn-spammers that write me everyday from 3 new numbers in pidgin???
[08:17] <n2diy> extuser: ok, It wiped the partition, now I'm going to create an ext3 partition.
[08:17] <extuser> n2diy: i'd delete all partitions and all logical volumes.
[08:17] <jim_p> SomePriest, i have that scrolling problem in ff too
[08:18] <SomePriest> jim_p, and DVDs look terrible, but that must be the DVD decoders fault I suppose.
[08:18] <extuser> n2diy: is ALL partitions and logical volumes deleted (the entire hdd unallocated)?
[08:18] <jim_p> SomePriest, dunno :(
[08:18] <n2diy> extuser: Yes, only on partition exsisted, and now I partitioned as ext3
[08:18] <n2diy> on/one
[08:19] <tavish> hi, there are no devices in preferences->sound. but 'asoundconf list' gives my sound card intel. and 'alsactl names' gives nothing.
[08:20] <Ascavasaion> How do I play MP3s on smb/computername/share/ on a local machine?  When I queue remote MP3s via Konqueror smb://etc/etc/ it plays the first song and then stops.
[08:20] <SomePriest> Is there an easy way to drop to run level 3, then back to 5 (or otherwise restarting X) when changes have been made?  `init` doesn't seem to exist in Ubunutu?
[08:20] <extuser> n2diy: ok.  if i remember correct, you want to install ubuntu onto it?  if so, the installer should be able to continue.
[08:21] <pseudomorph> Does anyone have an idea why I cannot see my primary hdd in gparted in 8.10 when installing (desktop, alt and mint)? The drive boots fine and shows up in 7.04 and parted magic live cds.
[08:21] <druggz> i installed php5-mysql
[08:22] <n2diy> extuser: yes. I've applied the changes, and it has deleted the partition, and is now finished creating the new one. And again, 1.3g is listed as in use, what the heck is using 1.3g, on a freshly partitioned drive?
[08:22] <druggz> i ran apt-get install php5-mysql mysql-client php5
[08:22] <druggz> and my php files are not being interpreted
[08:23] <extuser> n2diy: maybe your bios or mobo doesn't support the entire 80GB? just an idea.
[08:23] <shirish> druggz did you see the php conf files
[08:23] <joetheodd> Are the broadcom wifi drivers supported on 64bit or should I use 32bit?
[08:23] <n2diy> extuser: Bios sees it as an 80g drive. I suspect I have a hidden OEM partition, that is why I want to low level format the drive.
[08:23] <shirish> durggz may be you have to uncoment the line which includes mysql lines
[08:24] <SomePriest> Anyone else notice that with ATI's binary drivers, VLC will play movies (DVD or DivX), but the video will be black, and only the audio is correct?
[08:24] <n2diy> extuser: Got an idea, I think I'll manually config the drive in bios, rather than using auto, maybe that will work?
[08:25] <SomePriest> ...and you can correct that using X11 Video Output, but then it drops frames like crazy  :)
[08:26] <sprinkmeier> joetheodd, try the live CDs?
[08:26] <SomePriest> Maybe the message is, "Don't buy ATI"  :)
[08:26] <joetheodd> sprinkmeier, internet's slow, and i'm out of blanks.
[08:27] <zapz> ATI sucksss..
[08:28] <SomePriest> zapz, Well, on benchmarks they do very well.  Its only in the Linux world that they suck  :)
[08:28] <SomePriest> To be fair
[08:28] <zapz> but still
[08:29] <extuser> n2diy: not sure how used to bios setting you are, but just in case you aren't a bios pro, make sure you write down all the current setting exactly. it might save you a huge headache later.
[08:30] <extuser> n2diy: an easy way to test for the bios theory would be to install it onto another desktop computer and boot up the livecd on that computer and see if has the same issues.
[08:32] <extuser> n2diy: good luck with your hdd, i have to go. cheers.
[08:33] <n2diy> extuser: fine business, this isn' mission critical stuff, I salvaged the HP box, and after no luck getting that to work, pulled the drive, and I'm using it in my test box. It has the same issues, regardless of which box it is in..73
[08:34] <adante> hi
[08:34] <PerJ> Anyone with Xserver problems after upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty ?
[08:34] <adante> when i pull the cable out of my computer it loses ip and doesn't restore it when i plug it back in
[08:34] <adante> how can i make it so it will automatically try to reacquire an ip?
[08:35] <qdb> hello. i have tried to install ubuntu 8.04 dvd
[08:35] <qdb> it said
[08:35] <sprinkmeier> adante, it sometimes takes a while, how long do you wait ?
[08:35] <quibbler> PerJ: question regarding Jaunty should be asked in #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <adante> sprinkmeier: it doesn't restore after about 20 hours
[08:35] <qdb> only sda(0,0,0), none partitions of it
[08:35] <PerJ> quibbler: ok, thank you
[08:35] <adante> sprinkmeier: only time i have gotten it up is when i re-run dhclient from the computer
[08:36] <SOIER> hi there, can anybody tell where the packages  locates after apt-get installation
[08:36] <qdb> when i have entered it, also no inner partitions, said "if you continue, we will write partition table! you are going to use the whole disk!"
[08:36] <sprinkmeier> adante, ok... that shouldbe enough time :-) HAL should be telling the system that the eth carrier is back up and should re-start DHCP. what does ethtool say before/during/after unplug?
[08:36] <lstarnes> SOIER: dpkg -L packagename
[08:36] <qdb> though sda really has soamething like sda1, sda2, sda5, sda6
[08:37] <B3z3rk3r> sda0 normally
[08:37] <sprinkmeier> qdb, sounds like it's offering to wipe all those partitons for you
[08:37] <Guest773> hello
[08:37] <SOIER> lstarnes: I was trying to install some stuff using apt-get but it's broked because of full disk. Can I delete all this stuff uploaded on my pc. Is it still here on my disk ???
[08:38] <Guest773> I am having a strange problem. all the flash movies/youtube etc are having sound but any player like rythembox or vlc is not having sound
[08:38] <lstarnes> SOIER: how big is your disk?
[08:38] <Ascavasaion> Nevermind... turns out I had to change the Windows sharename to the remote machine's IP in the /etc/fstab.  It used to work, but ja... thrill.
[08:38] <msh> I am having a strange problem. all the flash movies/youtube etc are having sound but any player like rythembox or vlc is not having sound
[08:38] <SOIER> 7GB :)
[08:38] <sprinkmeier> msh, look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:38] <quibbler> qdb: what had you installed on sda0?
[08:38] <lstarnes> SOIER: you should most likely be using a bigger disk
[08:39] <qdb> sda0? i mean sda0 saying sda1 , i think
[08:39] <qdb> windows
[08:39] <SOIER> lstarnes: now the question is : how to find this packages i was downloading before and remove ???
[08:39] <quibbler> qdb: and do you want to keep it?
[08:39] <qdb> yes
[08:39] <qdb> there are also ext3 partition
[08:39] <qdb> and swap
[08:39] <qdb> mandriva was there
[08:39] <msh> sprink: what to look there?
[08:39] <lstarnes> SOIER: dpkg -l can list all installed packages
[08:39] <ubd> can this device run ubuntu : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2
[08:40] <qdb> but the installer like has not seen them
[08:40] <quibbler> qdb: and do you do you have only the one drive?
[08:40] <sprinkmeier> msh, that;s where downloaded .deb's love before they;re installed.
[08:40] <zapz> guys who among you, uses Wireshark? I cant choose an interface...
[08:40] <qdb> yes
[08:40] <Dreamglider> SOIER, you can scroll the terminal commands by using the up/down key
[08:40] <sprinkmeier> s/love/live/ :-)
[08:40] <qdb> it is ot my computer
[08:40] <qdb> not
[08:40] <lstarnes> zapz: you may need to run it as root
[08:40] <SOIER> lstarnes: as I said it has downloaded but not installed. As i understand it's locating on my pc, somewhere on tmp but not installed
[08:41] <qdb> i am not there now
[08:41] <quibbler> qdb: do you wish to install ubuntu in place of mandiva
[08:41] <qdb> yes
[08:41] <zapz> Istarnes How? can I run it as root..... ?
[08:41] <sprinkmeier> SOIER,  look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ (ok, looks liek I sent that to the wrong person last time)
[08:41] <SOIER> Dreamglider: for what ???
[08:41] <zapz> so I have to go to terminal ayt?  lstarnes
[08:41] <lstarnes> zapz: in a terminal, try this: gksudo wireshark
[08:42] <qdb> one reason it was hard to make internet connection with that mandriva
[08:42] <lstarnes> zapz: there may be an option in the applications > internet menu
[08:42] <adante> sprinkmeier: hmm hangon a mo.. this computer is remote i need to ring someone locally to go and run dhclient for me again :]
[08:42] <qdb> i made once in my computer but now have forgotten how to make it
[08:42] <Dreamglider> SOIER, once you find the package you installed, use  remove instead of install
[08:42] <sprinkmeier> adante, cron-job it :-)
[08:42] <zapz> wow THANKS!
[08:42] <qdb> 2008.0
[08:42] <Malacius> where i can download Avant-Window-Navigator
[08:43] <quibbler> qdb: then when you come to the partition part of the install choose manual and use the partitions from mandiva for the install
[08:43] <adante> sprinkmeier: hah good idea
[08:43] <qdb> i have gone to manual
[08:43] <B3z3rk3r> Malacius, you can get it from the repos
[08:43] <qdb> but it does not show partitions!
[08:43] <qdb> only the sda
[08:43] <rayzz> I am looking for software for a nav-cam 2007 gps
[08:43] <qdb> disk is ide, seagate
[08:44] <sridhar> would like to write plugins
[08:44] <sridhar> how do i start
[08:44] <SOIER> sprinkmeier: can I remove all that deb stuff from that location ??? )) Is it help to enlarge my free disk space ???
[08:44] <sridhar> any good tutorials
[08:44] <lstarnes> sridhar: plugins for what?
[08:44] <qdb> may be i should try ubuntu 8.10 cd
[08:44] <Dreamglider> sridhar, plugins for what ?
[08:44] <sridhar> for mozilla
[08:45] <qdb> i have also that
[08:45] <sridhar> i am a beginner
[08:45] <sridhar> so i just want to learn
[08:45] <sprinkmeier> SOIER, it's like a cache. if you want to re-install or put the deb;s on another machine then keeping them may be a good idea. otherwise fire at will!
[08:45] <sridhar> dont know where to start from
[08:45] <qdb> but maybe no difference in installers of them
[08:45] <quibbler> qdb: is the dvd a live dvd
[08:45] <Dreamglider> sridhar, http://developer.apple.com/documentation/InternetWeb/Conceptual/WebKit_PluginProgTopic/WebKitPluginTopics.html
[08:45] <qdb> there is also live
[08:45] <qdb> also text
[08:45] <qdb> i have tried to install from live
[08:46] <qdb> also same situation
[08:46] <SOIER> sprinkmeier: ok ! tnx. So It's like windows install folder )) and it can be located on another pc ???
[08:46] <sridhar> thnx dreamglider checking it out
[08:46] <doktorlinux> buongiorno
[08:46] <sprinkmeier> SOIER, you can network-mount it wherever you like, just make sure it's available otherwise apt won't work.
[08:46] <zapz> lstarnes: okay I run the wireshark into root, and start capturing packets.... now my problem is I cant catch any packets...
[08:47] <lstarnes> zapz: which onterface did you try capturing?
[08:47] <zapz> lstarnes: packets from lan..
[08:47] <lstarnes> *interface
[08:47] <juanito> how can i open .7z files?
[08:47] <zapz> my wireless card
[08:47] <doktorlinux> canale lingua italiana?
[08:47] <juanito> unrar doesn't open them
[08:47] <lstarnes> zapz: what was the name of it?
[08:47] <sprinkmeier> juanito, with 7zip
[08:47] <Dreamglider> !it
[08:47] <qdb> juanito in synaptic search 7z
[08:47] <zapz> wlan0
[08:47] <SOIER> sprinkmeier: so apt-ger checks this folder first and then decide dowload or not some soft ???
[08:48] <juanito> ok i will try
[08:48] <zapz> lstarnes: wlan0 is the name
[08:48] <sprinkmeier> SOIER, yes
[08:48] <juanito> thanks a ton
[08:48] <Sertse> hi, I just need a minimal install
[08:48] <Sertse> what next to get sound up and running?
[08:49] <lstarnes> zapz: try using "any"