[05:29] <Ricksna> hello
[05:30] <Juv1228> any reason in ubuntu my numpad doesnt work?
[05:30] <Juv1228> and the 5 button on it registers as right click?
[05:30] <Sample> edbian: that sounds crazy. well okay what's a recommended/popular graphical ones which I suppose I will then somehow magically run in a terminal using X forwarding? (haha)
[05:31] <[V13]Axel> Juv1228: What keymapping do you have?
[05:31] <Juv1228> oh
[05:31] <Juv1228> shit
[05:31] <Juv1228> i just noticed its moving the mouse
[05:31] <Juv1228> each button is a direction
[05:31] <Juv1228> layout is USA
[05:32] <Juv1228> oh
[05:32] <RoDiMuS-X> numlock on or off
[05:32] <Juv1228> nvm
[05:32] <Juv1228> somehow the default is to allow cursor to be controlled by numpad??
[05:32] <RoDiMuS-X> I take it numlock is off
[05:33] <Juv1228> on and off it did it
[05:33] <pfifo> shift+num lock will turn mousekeys off
[05:33] <MethedMan> bazhang: any ideas about why i have no sound.  ubuntu-restricted-extras is also installed
[05:34] <trix`G> so nobody knows why ubuntu deactivates my fully installed and working fine wifi driverss every time I reboot the laptop?
[05:35] <pfifo> trix`G, tick the auto connect and allow all users in network manager
[05:36] <trix`G> pfifo:  How do I reactivate the driver to do that?  The "proprietary (restricted) drivers" app lists my wifi drivers as "installed but not active" and wlan0 is no longer present in wireless-tools
[05:36] <erict15> a
[05:36] <Sample> what are your guys favorite music library/player programs ?
[05:36] <korejora> Hey, could I get some help with installing Ubuntu? I'm trying to allocate hard drive space, but I'm not sure what it means by "mount point".
[05:36] <RoDiMuS-X> Banshee
[05:37] <Sample> cool ill look into that one
[05:37] <gaelfx> Sample: if you're not opposed to KDE, I would suggest Amarok, it's pretty good
[05:37] <Sample> gaelfx: im a total noob so im sticking to gnome stuffs
[05:37] <gaelfx> fair enough
[05:37] <Aftermath> pfifo you there
[05:37] <psycho_oreos> korejora, it means where do you want to set it on the rootfs hierarchy
[05:37] <pfifo> trix`G, ahh thats a bit different problem than what i offered a solution for. it could be blacklisted, or perhaps you need to blacklist the original driver, or maybe use autoload
[05:38] <pfifo> Aftermath, yup
[05:38] <DaPenguin> korejora: means where in the filesystem the partition gets mounted, / will be for your main partition
[05:38] <Aftermath> pfifo this is Afteraffekt, headphones DO work on 9.10
[05:38] <Aftermath> i can plug in and out and works as it should
[05:38] <korejora> Oh, so the OS will get installed in "/" ?
[05:38] <erict15> test
[05:38] <pfifo> Aftermath, try copying that file, does it exist?
[05:38] <bazhang> !uptime
[05:38] <Aftermath> where was it
[05:38] <Aftermath> i lost it
[05:38] <Sample> so building on what edbian said... would I be able to use Banshee through an SSH terminal via "X Forwarding" to manage my music playing on my linux machine (which has the speakers) ?
[05:38] <DaPenguin> korejora: yes. nix systems put all filesystems as subdirs of / aka "root"
[05:38] <Sample> anyone know anything about this
[05:39] <pfifo> /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf
[05:39] <hiexpo> !alsa
[05:39] <RoDiMuS-X> Sample: I have never tried this my self but I know a few people that were able to get it to workj
[05:39] <korejora> What type should I use for the main partition? ext4?
[05:40] <Sample> k i suppose ill just go for it ,haha
[05:40] <pfifo> hiexpo, not even close :)
[05:40] <Aftermath> pfifo that folder is empty
[05:40] <pfifo> Aftermath, `sudo alsactl store 0`
[05:41] <Aftermath> k
[05:41] <stiltzkin> Good evening folks. Wondering if anyone can tell me how to force an application to route requests through an HTTP proxy. I've tried setting the http_proxy environment variable (via Preferences -> Network Proxy) but that seems to have no effect.
[05:41] <pfifo> stiltzkin, what application, most do not respect http_proxy
[05:41] <erict15> yo
[05:41] <trix`G> pfifo: where is the blacklist located?  It doesn't seem to be in /etc/modprobe.d
[05:42] <trix`G> pfifo: nevermind found it, sorry
[05:42] <stiltzkin> pfifo, wine...the faq for which states that you should use the env variable
[05:43] <stiltzkin> I have also tried tsocks and proxychains, also to no avail
[05:43] <Ben64> stiltzkin: wine isn't an application...
[05:43] <hiexpo> wow snubs has 8,000plus
[05:43] <Aftermath> pfifo i have no more space
[05:43] <pfifo> stiltzkin, what appliication  in wine?
[05:43] <Aftermath> i have ubuntu on an 8gb usb drive
[05:43] <erict15> huh
[05:44] <bazhang> erict15, ubuntu support question?
[05:44] <Aftermath> i have no clue how its out of space tho
[05:44] <stiltzkin> pfifo, spotify client. shouldn't really matter much though right? Wouldn't wine be handling the network connections?
[05:44] <hiexpo> oops wrong channel
[05:44] <dboyd2> hello all
[05:44] <Trihope> noob here, installing first linux os on my comp, have a laptop with windows 7, 320 gb hard drive, about 170 gb available, looking to install ubuntu dual boot, but want to make sure I 1) don't overwrite files, and 2) setup the appropriate partitions.
[05:44] <dboyd2> i need some help with a network issue
[05:44] <pfifo> Aftermath, try `alsactl -f ~/asound.conf store 0`
[05:44] <Ben64> stiltzkin: wine only lets programs work on linux, it's not like a VM
[05:45] <dboyd2> i was just wondering if it is possible to use a drac 4 card as my network card
[05:45] <pfifo> stiltzkin, wine should be providing winsock
[05:45] <dboyd2> and if so how would i go about getting ubuntu to recognize it
[05:45] <Ben64> dboyd2: what is a "drac 4" card
[05:45] <dboyd2> dell remote access card
[05:45] <stiltzkin> Ben64, I'm quite well aware of that. Just a little unclear on how it handles network connections
[05:45] <dboyd2> it does the whole network kvm thing
[05:45] <pfifo> stiltzkin, im not sure why its not respecting it, perhaps its unable to use the proxy and falls back to  direct connection
[05:46] <korejora> What all do I need to make a partition for when I'm installing? Just "/" and "/home", and a swap?
[05:46] <stiltzkin> pfifo, I doubt it, I've tested the connection and it works (at least in my browser)
[05:46] <Ben64> stiltzkin: have you tried setting a proxy for spotify?
[05:46] <Aftermath> pfifo, that should be sending the file where?
[05:46] <pfifo> stiltzkin, maybe try #winehq see if theres a known problem/solution
[05:46] <MethedMan> anyone have any ideas how to get .ram to play sound
[05:47] <Ben64> korejora: all you _need_ is "/" and swap
[05:47] <stiltzkin> Ben64, in my web browser? sure. that all works fine. What I need is to get the client to log me in over the proxy
[05:47] <Aftermath> pfifo lawl, the file is empty
[05:47] <pfifo> Aftermath, to /home/ubuntu/asound.conf your home directory should b e writeable
[05:47] <Ben64> stiltzkin: i mean set it up in the program
[05:47] <Aftermath> pfifo lawl, the file is empty
[05:47] <Trihope> how do I make sure I don't overwrite files when I install ubuntu dual boot setup?
[05:47] <Ben64> stiltzkin: pretend you're on windows and want to use a proxy
[05:47] <korejora> @Ben64 - Okay, but isn't it better to separate the OS from the rest of your stuff?
[05:47] <stiltzkin> Ben64, moot point, can't launch the program without the proxy
[05:47] <pfifo> Aftermath, try `alsactl -f ~/asound.conf store 1`
[05:48] <RoDiMuS-X> MathedMan: Did you install the Helix Player?
[05:48] <mk> panel autohide is taking ages to hide/show the panel. How do I set the delay to 0ms?
[05:48] <pfifo> Aftermath, try adding sudo to both commands
[05:48] <|System|> vmware
[05:48] <Ben64> korejora: personal preferences mostly, you can have as many partitions as you want
[05:48] <dboyd2> MethedMan: http://wiki.videolan.org/Talk:RealMedia
[05:48] <Aftermath> pfifo same problem
[05:49] <pfifo> Aftermath, then perhaps try moving that file out of its proper path and using no file on your install ^^
[05:49] <Aftermath> like on my 10.10 install, delete that file/
[05:49] <Aftermath> ??
[05:50] <steven> :)
[05:50] <korejora> Supposing I wanted the OS install to have its own partition, how much room should I give it?
[05:50] <pfifo> not delete just move to see if it works, youll need a reboot since you cant alsactl init without the file
[05:51] <Aftermath> so i could sudo copy asound.conf asound.conf.bak
[05:51] <Aftermath> er
[05:51] <Aftermath> rn
[05:51] <Khisanth> I have 11G for that but using around half
[05:51] <Aftermath> wtf is the command for rename
[05:51] <Ben64> Aftermath: mv
[05:51] <Aftermath> thank
[05:52] <Aftermath> i feel like an idiot...my college degree involved alot of linux lol
[05:52] <pfifo> heh
[05:52] <mk> how can I change panel autohide delay?
[05:52] <Technicus> Hello . . . I am using the open driver for Radeon HD 3200, it is working great . . . but now I am trying to run OpenSCAD, yet when I initiate the program it issues this statement: [  Warning: No support for OpenGL 2.0 found!  OpenCSG View has been disabled.  ].  That is a very critical feature of this program.  I looked in the repo, but OpenGL does not seem to have it's own package, so I figure that it is part of the video driver.  How do
[05:53] <Ben64> Technicus: you could try the closed source driver
[05:53] <Trihope> anybody available to help a noob out?
[05:54] <stiltzkin> Trihope, sure what's up
[05:54] <Technicus> What are you trying to du/ubderstand Trihope?
[05:54] <Aftermath> pfifo, on 10.10 the file is called asound.state.conf
[05:54] <Trihope> i'm installing for the first time and want to see if there is a way to make sure I don't overwrite files (dual boot with windows 7)
[05:55] <Technicus> Ben64; I was thinking of trying that, is it a messy transition?
[05:55] <Ben64> Technicus: shouldn't be
[05:55] <Aftermath> or rather that file is the file in that directory
[05:55] <MethedMan> dboyd2: thanks.  not working in vlc.  works in mplayer but without sound.  are there certain codes to install for mplayer?
[05:55] <KM0201> Trihope, yes, pay attention.
[05:55] <Technicus> Aftermath; what are you doing with the asound.conf?
[05:56] <stiltzkin> Trihope, as long as you use the partitioner correctly you shouldn't be in danger of overwriting files. That said, make frequent backups.
[05:56] <pfifo> Aftermath, mine has no conf... but im on xubuntu, not sure but its allowed to have a different name at any rate
[05:56] <dboyd2> how can i tell if a network card is really dead?
[05:56] <Aftermath> its just asound.state
[05:56] <Aftermath> no conf
[05:56] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: What do you mean?
[05:57] <Aftermath> i renamed it and am rebooting
[05:57] <pfifo> ok
[05:57] <dboyd2> well i don't get any lights on this integrated nic
[05:57] <dboyd2> but i get it's mac address
[05:57] <KXTwo> Im taking a unix class and having some difficulties with scripts, anyone feel like helping?
[05:57] <hiexpo> dboyd2, give it mouth to mouth if after 60 seconds it's a gonner
[05:57] <dboyd2> and ubuntu sees it
[05:57] <Technicus> Trihope; If you are trying it for the first time, you can start the install from Windows, and it will install into a Windows partition.
[05:57] <dboyd2> funny heixpo
[05:57] <Some_Person> dboyd2: Ask it "Are you dead?"
[05:57] <korejora> How big should my swap partition be if I have 4GB of RAM?
[05:57] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: Hmm. Do you have another OS to try it on?
[05:57] <dboyd2> i was wondering is there anything i can do to check and make sure it's really dead
[05:57] <dboyd2> short of trying another os
[05:58] <pfifo> korejora, 8GB or larger
[05:58] <[V13]Axel> korejora: You shouldn't NEED one, but you should go around 2GB.
[05:58] <Some_Person> dboyd2: <serious> Tried it with another cable?
[05:58] <stiltzkin> So does anyone know of any alternative ways to route traffic from specific applications (whether in wine or otherwise) through an HTTP proxy, besides the environment variable? I need a stronger solution than that - something that's not an optional flag. iptables or something, idk
[05:58] <Trihope> sorry having a hard to focusing with all the conversations
[05:58] <KM0201> korejora, general rule of thumb is 2x your physical ram.
[05:58] <korejora> Okay, one of those answers was not like the other.
[05:58] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: Best idea is to try another OS.
[05:58] <korejora> Others.
[05:58] <Trihope> @technicus are there disadvantages to that?
[05:59] <KXTwo> Im taking a unix class and having some difficulties with scripts, anyone feel like helping?
[05:59] <[V13]Axel> korejora: With 4GB of RAM, you won't need a swap partition unless you're doing a bullshitload of work at once.
[05:59] <Trihope> i have always heard of a seperate partition
[05:59] <KM0201> korejora, one person said 8gigs, i said "2x your physical ram"... you have 4gigs.. 4x2=8  how were they different?
[05:59] <hiexpo> try it on a live os and what card is it  dboyd2
[05:59] <KXTwo> korejora Axel is right, I have 3 on my laptop and have no issues, just dont hibernate
[05:59] <korejora> @KM0201 - Axel said "You shouldn't need one, but go with ~2GB."
[05:59] <pfifo> korejora, should is 2x the size of the ram, but to be reaal, youll never touch a single byte of it unless you compile chromium from source with -ggdb
[05:59] <[V13]Axel> KM0201: I told him 2GB-- With 4GB of RAM, you don't need that much.
[05:59] <Technicus> Trihope; the install will be fully functional, however Ubuntu will not have it's own partition.
[05:59] <Flannel> With that much RAM, you generally don't need 2X, 1X would be if you planned on hibernating, and you may be able to survive with 0X if you want
[05:59] <Some_Person> dboyd2: Well, usually the lights should come on regardless of the OS -- but maybe it's a weird card
[06:00] <Aftermath> pfifo
[06:00] <Aftermath> renaming tha file and rebooting fixed it
[06:00] <Aftermath> wtf
[06:00] <Aftermath> lol
[06:00] <KM0201> [V13]Axel, thats not entirely accurate... if he's using suspend/hibernate, he'll needed that swap
[06:00] <KXTwo> I dont think im getting any script help lol
[06:00] <pfifo> !yay | Aftermath, HAHA
[06:00] <korejora> Well, I have like 400+ GB on the Ubuntu partition alone, so it doesn't really matter to me how big it is. It is on a laptop, though.
[06:00] <Aftermath> ima start renaming files that dont work more often
[06:00] <Aftermath> lol
[06:00] <[V13]Axel> dboyd2: Different driver model, MIGHT work. It's worth a try.
[06:01] <pfifo> Aftermath, its porbbally someone trying to fix audio being muted by default for similiar chipsets
[06:01] <Technicus> Trihope; I avoid dual booting with Windows, because sometimes it likes to be a bully and mess with the boot loader.
[06:01] <[V13]Axel> korejora: If you're hibernating a lot, go with just over 4GB. If you're not, don't worry about it and go with as much as you want.
[06:01] <KM0201> korejora, then just to be safe(in case you start hibernating, etc.. make it 8gigs)
[06:01] <Technicus> Trihope; it does work though.
[06:01] <Afteraffekt> yay
[06:01] <Afteraffekt> pfifo thanks alot for your help
[06:01] <Technicus> Trihope; do you have a single hard drive, or multiple?
[06:01] <zerothis> can remote desktop. My vnc ports are forwarded internal, external, both types, to my local ip. nmap reports them open. Remote desktop reports only local usually, once in a while it reports my outside IP for a short time but then revers right in front of my eyes.
[06:01] <pfifo> sure thing
[06:02] <KXTwo> Does anyone want to help a novice with a script?
[06:02] <[V13]Axel> KXTwo: I'd help if I weren't a novice as well-- But what do you need to do with said script?
[06:02] <zerothis> can't remote desktop, rather
[06:02] <korejora> Okay, other than the swap, should I just allocate the rest to the main partition "/"?
[06:02] <Technicus> Trihope; if you have a single harddrive, how many partitions are on it?
[06:03] <[V13]Axel> korejora: It's recommended to set aside another partition to /home/, so if you need to reinstall the OS, you won't have to backup your home folders. You can simply reinstall the OS and set that partition as the /home/ folder.
[06:03] <Technicus> Trihope; if you do not have sufficient space for an install . . . you will have to shrink a partition . . . that is where thing can get messy.
[06:03] <KXTwo> wellt here are several questions but to start:  If on a command line I type " ready directory" then enter "text" and then echo $directory it gives me "text" but if I do the same thing via script it echos a blank line?
[06:04] <korejora> In that case, should I set aside a small partition for the OS, and allocate the rest to /home/, or the other way around?
[06:04] <KXTwo> [V13]Axel,  wellt here are several questions but to start:  If on a command line I type " ready directory" then enter "text" and then echo $directory it gives me "text" but if I do the same thing via script it echos a blank line?
[06:05] <[V13]Axel> KXTwo: Send me a private message about it-- We'll spam the main channel otherwise.
[06:05] <Technicus> Trihope; I've got to go . . . hope you can get your dual boot working.
[06:05] <Some_Person> KXTwo: use "directory=text" and "echo $directory"
[06:05] <esquilax> anyone have any thoughts on my ~ on whois?  I have oidentd running and the port is forwarded to it and if i telnet to it, it works and responds, but anytime i connect to an irc server, there isnt even a request
[06:05] <Some_Person> KXTwo: without quotes
[06:06] <KXTwo> Some_Person, I cant because I need a user to be able to enter a directory then I store it in a variable
[06:06] <KXTwo> I already got one script working perfectly but for some reason even the basics on this one is not working for me
[06:07] <korejora> Should I allocate the majority of my space to "/", or to "/home"?
[06:07] <Some_Person> KXTwo: then you want "read directory"
[06:08] <pfifo> korejora, /home would probbally be more suitable for most people
[06:08] <KXTwo> Some_Person, yes that much I do know, when I put that in my script then echo it, I get a blank line.  Unlike if I do it manually where it actually echos the directory I want
[06:08] <Some_Person> KXTwo: strange, it works for me
[06:08] <korejora> @pfifo - Then how much should I give to the main partition "/"? 5 GB? 10? 30?
[06:08] <KXTwo> Some_Person, if I type read directory then enter "/home, then cd $directory it works fine, but its not working in my script even though its written the same way and yes I am using bash
[06:10] <pfifo> korejora, ubuntu needs at minimum 4, 10 would be good more if you really want to spare it but you might not need it
[06:10] <erict15> a
[06:10] <Some_Person> KXTwo: So you have "read directory" and "echo $directory" in your script?
[06:10] <korejora> @pfifo - I have more space than I could possibly use, so I'd rather err on the side of giving it too much space.
[06:11] <pfifo> korejora, 20 is way overkill but if you have it you might as well
[06:11] <KXTwo> Some_Person, ive not even gotten into the deeper part of the script.  I simply have: line1: #!/bin/bash, line2: read directory, line3 cd $directory.  I enter the directory but nothing happens it just stays where it is, then when I echo the $directory is blank
[06:12] <korejora> Do you know what type I should use, i.e. ext4 or whichever?
[06:12] <pfifo> korejora, ext3 is a bit more mature
[06:12] <Some_Person> KXTwo: That's expected. When you execute it, it runs in a new instance of bash, so when it exits $directory is undefined and the current directory is whatever it was before
[06:13] <KXTwo> Some_Person, omg I was just thinking that
[06:13] <KXTwo> Some_Person, so when im done with the script bash is reset
[06:13] <KXTwo> Some_Person, that explains why when I just did a manual echo I got it from when I was doing it manually
[06:14] <korejora> @pfifo - So do you think I should use ext3, then, seeing as how this would be pretty much my first time using a Linux system?
[06:14] <erict15> hi
[06:14] <erict15> what
[06:14] <rand_u> does anybody know how to list my available printers in the terminal?
[06:14] <Some_Person> KXTwo: When the script is done, the instance of bash it's running in exits, and you're thrown back to where you were.
[06:15] <Some_Person> KXTwo: So if you use $directory or change directory in your script, it will work as expected, but not when you get back to the console afterwards
[06:15] <KXTwo> Some_Person, ok  so why isnt this working my script is in /home/kkrauss1/scripts.  my script(titled crazy2) is coded echo "please enter directory", read directory, cd $directory.  But if I enter /home it doesnt change to it
[06:16] <pfifo> korejora, well if you dont have a specific reason to use one over the other then they are all pretty much doing the same task
[06:16] <korejora> @pfifo - Okay, thanks.
[06:16] <Some_Person> KXTwo: Same problem. It did change directories, but didn't do anything with it. Then the script exited, and you ended up with your previous bash session. If you add "touch somefile" as the last line, it will create a file called "somefile" in $directory
[06:17] <KXTwo> Some_Person, so I have to finish the rest of the script, I cant test it the way I expected.  This was never explained in the book.  This is the assignment: 7. 	Write a script to do the following:
[06:17] <KXTwo> 	a.	Display a 4 line histogram of all the files in a given directory, sized to fit a standard screen.
[06:17] <KXTwo> b.	Prompt the user for a directory, capture it into a variable and change to that directory in your script.
[06:17] <KXTwo> c.	List and count all the files that begin with lowercase a-g, store that number in a variable.
[06:17] <KXTwo> d.	List and count all the files that begin with lowercase h-m, store that number in another variable.
[06:17] <FloodBot2> KXTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <KXTwo> e.	List and count all the files that begin with lowercase n-s, store that number in another variable.
[06:17] <korejora> What's the difference between a primary and logical partition?
[06:18] <Some_Person> KXTwo: I'm not doing your homework for you
[06:18] <NightMonkey> KXTwo: Ah, homework?
[06:18] <KXTwo> Some_Person, Im not asking you to
[06:19] <pfifo> korejora, you can only have 4 primary partitions, one of which may be a 'extended partition' and contain additional logical partitions (for a maximum of 32 partitions)
[06:19] <KXTwo> but thanks for assuming :)
[06:19] <Sample> so with screen.. if you close your terminal window (or detach via Ctrl+a d).. and you ssh back in and do 'screen' but NOT 'screen -r' .. what happens to that original session? does it die/go away/get overwritten ?
[06:19] <Some_Person> KXTwo: You can also use "echo $PWD" to echo the current directory
[06:19] <NightMonkey> Sample: A second screen session is created, with a different session ID.
[06:20] <Sample> whoa
[06:20] <SLruan> how to creat a live usb of debian ?
[06:20] <korejora> @pfifo - So should I be telling it to make all of these (my swap, my main "/" and my file "/home" partitions) logical partitions?
[06:20] <KXTwo> Some_Person, well you explaining how everything happens inside the bash I call explains a lot, now I just need to figure out how to count the files from a-g etc etc
[06:20] <Sample> NightMonkey: k that's interesting.. so say then that you have a few screen sessions.. how do you get a list of all of them when you first enter a terminal?
[06:20] <SLruan> How to creat a live usb of debian
[06:20] <Some_Person> KXTwo: good luck. I'm going to bed now
[06:20] <NightMonkey> Sample: Just try running screen, detaching, running screen, then try reattaching, and you'll see that screen asks you which session to attach.
[06:21] <Sample> i see
[06:21] <Sample> neat, thanks
[06:21] <bazhang> SLruan, likely the same as in ubuntu ; unetbootin #debian for support
[06:21] <NightMonkey> Sample: Sure. Screen rocks.
[06:21] <erict15> .
[06:21] <DaPenguin> screen is my DE :)
[06:21] <erict15> whoops
[06:21] <bazhang> erict15, please stop that
[06:21] <rigved> SLruan: System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator. <-- use this to create the debian live usb
[06:22] <pfifo> korejora, if your going to be using all of your harddrive for 3 partitions then you dont NEED and extended and logicals, so all primary would work.... or another option is to make / and swap primary partitions, and then have /home as a logical. either way there isnt too much of a difference
[06:22] <hiexpo> SLruan, dd
[06:23] <MacByte> hello
[06:23] <Sample> NightMonkey: and say I do "screen" on accident instead of "screen -r" and end up creating myself a new session, how do I fully kill that one rather than simply detaching it and keeping it around next time I "screen -r"
[06:23] <pfifo> korejora, you may want to reserve a partition for a second install and dual boot
[06:23] <SLruan> How to do this  in  windows ?
[06:23] <bazhang> SLruan, ##windows
[06:23] <MacByte> i am having an issue with flash playback issues on ubuntu... when watching youtube videos the video stutters and then repeats a clip while the video is frozen and then completely dies out... any ideas what I can do?
[06:24] <NightMonkey> Sample: Well, the better way to rid yourself of screen sessions is to attach to them, then exit all the virtual terminals one by one.
[06:24] <Sample> NightMonkey: by just typing 'exit' in there?
[06:24] <NightMonkey> Sample: So, if you accidentally type "screen" when you meant "screen -r", just type "exit" immediately, and you'll be good.
[06:25] <Sample> gotcha, this is awesome
[06:25] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yep.
[06:25] <Sample> thanks for the clarifications
[06:25] <NightMonkey> Sample: If you happen to *kill* screen, it might leave detritus around for session files, but you'll get a warning about that, explaining what to do.
[06:26] <Eliezer> is there a driver for atheros in monitor mode ?
[06:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: Note that if you decide to be mean and just kill screen yourself, it will kill all child sessions.
[06:26] <rigved> SLruan: there are free softwares available online for windows as well. these can create live usb systems. just google it.
[06:26] <MacByte> any ideas?...
[06:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: (kill with a "kill -9", for example)
[06:26] <Sample> gotcha
[06:26] <SLruan> If i use a microSDHC to creat live usb instead usb,OK?
[06:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: When you get really into screen, take a look at "multiuser screen".
[06:27] <hiexpo> Eliezer, what you trying to do why you want monitor mode
[06:27] <Sample> by child sessions do you mean all other sessions, or just the 'pseudo terminals' (for lack of a better word) within that session (which has that PID that you killed)
[06:27] <NightMonkey> Sample: And I always set up a large scrollback buffer in screen for sessions, and a nice status bar.
[06:27] <NightMonkey> Sample: Psuedo terminals, yes.
[06:27] <Sample> NightMonkey: i'd love a status bar actually, how do you get one? So far I do the Ctrl+a w to get a bit of one
[06:28] <NightMonkey> Sample: Here's mine:
[06:28] <NightMonkey> Sample: caption always " %w --- %c:%s"
[06:28] <NightMonkey> Sample: In .screenrc in my $HOME.
[06:28] <korejora> While installing Ubuntu, it's asking me which device to use for the boot loader installation. What does that mean?
[06:28] <Sample> NightMonkey: sweet/interesting i'll give that a look
[06:29] <NightMonkey> Sample: And one more line:
[06:29] <NightMonkey> Sample: termcapinfo  * '' 'hs:ts=\E_:fs=\E\\:ds=\E_\E\\'
[06:29] <Sample> what's that one?
[06:29] <NightMonkey> Sample: To set the scrollback: defscrollback 65535
[06:29] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) i want to avoid or reduce interferences in my network
[06:29] <Sample> what's the termcapinfo
[06:29] <pfifo> korejora, a bootload is designed to alloe you to choose different options for booting, normally youll install to /dev/sda unless you have a reason to install it elsewhere or not at all.
[06:30] <Sample> NightMonkey: also are there any problems/performance or memory issues/etc with a huge scrollback?
[06:31] <hiexpo> Eliezer, so what does monitor mode have to do with that what ap you trying to use that requires monitor mode ?
[06:31] <NightMonkey> Sample: You could lessen the scrollback to taste. I haven't had any, even on my Sheevaplug. ;)
[06:31] <korejora> @pfifo -- The space I'm allocating to Ubuntu is all on "/dev/sdc". Should I put the boot loader in the same place?
[06:31] <Sample> I'ven't a clue what a sheevaplug is
[06:32] <Sample> oh i looked it up, haha. that's cool
[06:32] <NightMonkey> Sample: The termcapinfo line is fixes some character display issues, IIRC.
[06:32] <pfifo> korejora, do you currently have windows or another OS on your computer?
[06:32] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) im having problems in regular mode connecting
[06:32] <Sample> NightMonkey: could you give me an example just so I have an idea?
[06:32] <weez> Hi, Does anyone know how I could turn a bunch of still images into a video?
[06:33] <Eliezer> so i figure switching mabe help
[06:33] <korejora> @pfifo -- Yes. I have something like 400+ GB devoted to Windows 7, and this other partition, also over 400 GB, I'm devoting to Ubuntu.
[06:33] <Sample> NightMonkey: also this may be a silly question but screen doesn't allow for accidental nesting or anything crazy right? i dont want to try it but im basically saying, what if you don't realize youre in screen and do 'screen'
[06:33] <NightMonkey> Sample: It's been a while since I mucked with my screenrc. I also set up a reattach password, but that might be too paranoid. It does mean, however, that someone who gets root on your box can't as easily su - into your account and attach.
[06:33] <pfifo> korejora, do you mean disk drive?
[06:33] <NightMonkey> Sample: I did. :)
[06:33] <aaron_wayne> can someone tell me how to add a line?
[06:34] <hiexpo> Eliezer, well monitor mode will not solve that issue > if you explain exactly what it is you are trying to do maybe someone can or will help you
[06:34] <Sample> i mean as far as what characters have display issues
[06:34] <korejora> @pfifo - I don't think so, but it's possible I just don't know.
[06:34] <sss314> How can I temporarily stop GNOME and use a text terminal?
[06:34] <NightMonkey> Sample: That's why I have a status line. But, yes, you could screen yourself into a tizzy, Russian Doll style.
[06:34] <kaushal> hi
[06:34] <kaushal> anyone using terminator ?
[06:34] <Sample> lol okay
[06:34] <hiexpo> !hello | kaushal
[06:35] <kaushal> hiexpo: hi
[06:35] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) http://pastebin.com/5ZtggRZf
[06:35] <aaron_wayne> http://imagebin.org/148633
[06:35] <kaushal> Can someone recommend good terminal application ?
[06:35] <KXTwo> I know how to use the read command to write something to a variable but how do you output something like ls to a variable
[06:35] <NightMonkey> kaushal: rxvt-unicode.
[06:35] <hiexpo> kaushal, feel free to ask your ?  and after wait till someone that may help you will
[06:36] <bhavesh> aaron_wayne: with gedit?
[06:36] <kaushal> NightMonkey: ok
[06:36] <hiexpo> Eliezer, works fine
[06:37] <NightMonkey> kaushal: Eterm.
[06:37] <kaushal> is there a shortcut key to focus the cursor to the first tab,I mean i do ssh IP1 term1 and then so and so forth so lets say if i need to work on term3
[06:37] <pfifo> korejora, sometimes installing a bootloader can cause problems with the manufacturer system restore utility, if your window is on /dev/sda, you can probbally install a bootloader on /dev/sdc and then use your bios to swithc hard drive priority. If your not worried about a system restore utility you can install on /dev/sda (your first hard drive) and it will allow you to choose between ubuntu and windows at boot time.
[06:37] <kaushal> so how do i focus it ?
[06:37] <grendal-prime> hey guys i have a machine in the living room and i want to watch movies from its dvd player onto my netbook.  Ive used vlc to do this but i want to not have to run the desktop on that mchine
[06:37] <Eliezer> hiexpo:) you mean that i dont need anny driver for monitor mode,,just typing what i type works for me
[06:37] <aaron_wayne> bhavesh, so is it just literally a line of text that i would save to that dir?
[06:38] <grendal-prime> i guess what im asking is ...is there a streaming solution where i can login via an http or curses console?
[06:38] <anthony_2409> has anyone here tried using plank?
[06:39] <bhavesh_> sorry I went offline before?
[06:39] <bhavesh_> remove that "?"
[06:39] <kaushal> is there a shortcut key to focus the cursor to the first tab,I mean i do ssh IP1 term1 and then so and so forth so lets say if i need to work on term3,
[06:40] <hiexpo> Eliezer, nope atheros is okthat is a 5kcardso your fine you just need to go to aircrack-ng site and read the wikis on how it works and how to use it is all you just entered the wrong command and me or anyone else in this channel or aircrack-ng is gonnaspoon feed you on that
[06:40] <weez> Hi, Does anyone know how I could turn a bunch of still images into a video?
[06:40] <enovativ> i am trying to set up the wireless on my XPS m1530, and I have used lspci and determine that it is a Broadcom chipset, and I installed and configured wl.ko, and no success
[06:40] <aaron_wayne> or a better question i guess would be, what is the easiest way to install tor proxy?
[06:40] <korejora> @pfifo - Okay, thanks for your help.
[06:40] <Sample> NightMonkey: so having created a .screenrc in my /home/myname directory I don't see anything new going on in screen, do I need to like... 'reboot' the app or something? or perhaps does my screen not care to look in my home directory for that file?
[06:40] <pfifo> korejora, no problem
[06:40] <enovativ> i then install ndiswrapper and installed the windows driver Bcm43xx (inf file) and no success
[06:40] <bhavesh_> weez: group them into a animated gif image
[06:40] <NightMonkey> grendal-prime: If you connect to that box via "ssh -Y <host>", you can run vlc, and the window will be forwarded to your netbook. (Assuming your netbook is running X.)
[06:41] <Eliezer> hiexpo:)  ok thanks
[06:41] <bhavesh_> is there any way to decrease the size of all ubuntu desktop icons..?
[06:41] <hiexpo> Eliezer, no problem and you dont need a driver the ubuntu one works fine
[06:41] <bhavesh_> the option in preferences reduce them from 100% to 66% directly
[06:42] <bhavesh_> but I need something like 75 - 80%
[06:42] <weez> bhavesh_: I was hoping for something more along the lines of a mkv or avi file. This might be a little too big for a gif.
[06:42] <NightMonkey> Sample: You have to start a new screen session to see anything.
[06:42] <korejora> @pfifo -- Is there anything on Ubuntu that the boot loader could interfere with, or is it safe to put it on the same drive and change the boot priority?
[06:42] <NightMonkey> Sample: .screenrc is only read on startup.
[06:42] <Sample> NightMonkey: hm does screen know to look in the $HOME ? when I 'screen -r' things look the same as before the file
[06:43] <gartral> umm.. how do i initiate a distrobution jump? isnt it "update-manager -d"?
[06:43] <Sample> mlocate screenrc shows one in /usr/share/doc/screen/examples/
[06:43] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, you need to run a *completely* new screen to read .screenrc. Detached sessions aren't new.
[06:43] <grendal-prime> NightMonkey, ya but man that chews up a lot of bandwidth and then if i cluse the ssh connection i believe the app shuts down.
[06:43] <NightMonkey> grendal-prime: Yes.
[06:43] <aaron_wayne> any recommendations?
[06:44] <enovativ> can anyone hel wtih a wirelss problem on a dell xps m1530 with a broadcom chipset
[06:44] <grendal-prime> remote admin is not the problem..i think there is probably a web front end for this somewhere.
[06:44] <pfifo> korejora, ubuntu is designed to work seamlessly with a bootloader, if you are paranoid you should make a backup of your mbr that you could restore later if there is any problems. http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/
[06:44] <Sample> NightMonkey: ohh okay. so you have to manually end and then re-create your session if you make a change to the screenrc?
[06:44] <enovativ> can anyone help with a wireless problem on a dell xps m1530 with a broadcom chipset ?
[06:44] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yep.
[06:44] <enovativ> i have installed wl.ko , no success
[06:45] <enovativ> i install ndiswrapper, restart, and then installed windows driver, no success
[06:45] <Sample> NightMonkey: also should I be taking the one thats in /usr/share/doc/screen/examples/ ,copying it to my $HOME, and then adding your 3 lines? it seems like the example one is pretty full-featured with auto detach and whatnot
[06:45] <NightMonkey> Sample: Does /etc/screenrc exist on the machine you're running screen on?
[06:45] <Sample> let me check
[06:45] <aaron_wayne> any help, with tor proxy?
[06:46] <hiexpo> !tor
[06:46] <rigved> so, if i use X11Forwarding in ssh, does that mean that the process is actually being executed on the remote machine but i am seeing the display in my own machine? this is in reference to what NightMonkey said above^^
[06:46] <Sample> NightMonkey: ah yep looks like there is one there
[06:46] <NightMonkey> Sample: So, for me, keeping a very simple .screenrc in my $HOME is good, and then I trust the /etc/screenrc to do "sensible" stuff.
[06:47] <Sample> okay gotcha. I didn't know that it had a 'master' screenrc and that it would read "additional bits" from my $HOME .screenrc
[06:47] <gartral> update-manager -c is not showing the 11.04 upgrade, how do i force it?
[06:47] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, do read the examples! :)
[06:47] <Sample> im a total linux newb
[06:47] <Sample> but enjoying it much thus far =)
[06:47] <korejora> @pfifo -- I think it'll be fine. Thanks again for all of your help.
[06:47] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yeah, /etc/screenrc first, then $HOME/.screenrc.
[06:47] <pfifo> of course
[06:48] <NightMonkey> Funny, wonder why tor isn't in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <rigved> gartral: 11.04 has not yet been released. it will release on 28th April. you can update from 10.10 to 11.04 after 28th April. please ask all 11.04 questions on #ubuntu+1 till then
[06:49] <NightMonkey> rigved: You got it.
[06:49] <Nuge> I've always been bothered by the duplicate options in the grub menu. Anyone know how to resolve this glitch?
[06:49] <rigved> NightMonkey: what, is this in reference to my X11 question?
[06:50] <NightMonkey> rigved: That's the one you directed at me, yep. :)
[06:50] <rigved> NightMonkey: oh ok. thanks! :)
[06:51] <Sample> NightMonkey: hmm I just tried running 'moc player' though screen and instead of getting the straight lines (borders) around the window it uses as a sort of terminal GUI.. I get a's with ^ over them. is this a product of the character issues you mentioned or am i for some fundamental reason i dont grasp not supposed to run an app like that in screen?
[06:51] <Shield> @Nuge:  How-to-geek has a walk through on where you need to go to clean up the grub boot loader.  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[06:51] <Awolf_> Greetings all
[06:51] <NightMonkey> Sample: One reason I keep my .screenrc simple, and maybe wasn't so careful in the past, is that I had a few <facepalms> after setting up tons of sessions for work, only to find some setting made screen fall short.
[06:52] <bhavesh> do I need swap partitions if I have 2GB of RAM (sorry for asking again)
[06:52] <NightMonkey> Sample: Try running the app with "TERM=rxvt-unicode <app>" instead.
[06:52] <Awolf_> What does it take to become a programmer
[06:52] <Awolf_> ?
[06:52] <weez> Nuge: You can edit the config - location depends on your ubuntu version, or there is a graphical program called grub cutomizer - info at http://goo.gl/hbPxU
[06:52] <bhavesh> Awolf_ programming..?
[06:52] <Sample> NightMonkey: what's that do? set a variable on the system and then run the app?
[06:52] <NightMonkey> Sample: You might not have a complete termcap db. Screen sets TERM to "screen", which doesn't do line art.
[06:52] <Shield> @Nuge:  My bad the link I posted in my reply was for the grub boot loader from Ubuntu 9.04 and older.  Go to http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/
[06:52] <Awolf_> Yeah Bhavesh
[06:53] <Awolf_> where do I start
[06:53] <rigved> bhavesh: you need a swap partition always. this is part of the standard linux partition system.
[06:53] <Awolf_> ?
[06:53] <pfifo> Awolf_, a text editor and compiler/intrepreter/assembler and time
[06:53] <Sample> NightMonkey: i dont know what complete termcap db means O_O
[06:53] <bhavesh> rigved: but I have 4 swap partitions..
[06:53] <NightMonkey> Sample: Yep. Try "echo $TERM" outside screen, then inside screen.
[06:53] <bhavesh> rigved: this is my partition setup, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594737/
[06:54] <NightMonkey> Sample: TERM is a special shell variable which, by convention, informs programs of what kind of
[06:54] <NightMonkey> Sample: terminal it is run under.
[06:54] <pfifo> bhavesh, you dont NEED a swap but its recommended, and standard is usually 2x your RAM, but you probbally wont use it.
[06:54] <Sample> so would "TERM=rxvt-unicode <app>" mean set the TERM variable differently on my system and then run the app.. or does it mean, run the app and pass it a TERM variable with this value but don't alter the original
[06:54] <rigved> Awolf_: check out http://www.codechef.com
[06:54] <Nuge> Thanks, weez.
[06:54] <NightMonkey> Sample: By doing 'TERM="rxvt-unicode" <program>', you are temporarilty setting a new TERM.
[06:55] <NightMonkey> s/temporarilty/temporarily/
[06:55] <Awolf_> thank you Rigved
[06:55] <Sample> by temporarily what do you mean exactly in terms of duration (how temporary)
[06:55] <rigved> Awolf_: you are welcome
[06:55] <bhavesh> pfifo: but does it seem that I have assigned a lot more swap space than required ? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/594737/)
[06:56] <NightMonkey> Sample: Only for that app you're running on the same line.
[06:56] <Sample> k
[06:56] <rigved> bhavesh: yes, that one too many
[06:56] <bhavesh> rigved: ok so I need to unwap my 3 partitions..
[06:56] <bhavesh> ?
[06:56] <rigved> bhavesh: you only need one swap partition
[06:56] <NightMonkey> Sample: To make it "permanent" for that terminal session, you'd type 'export TERM="rxvt-unicode"'. But try it first before doing that.
[06:57] <bhavesh> rigved: unsawp and format them?
[06:57] <pfifo> bhavesh, imo you have made a mess of your partition table. but if you have the resoure to spare its not going to hurt anything
[06:57] <NightMonkey> Sample: And later to make it even more permanent, should apps "look right", then you'd add it to .bash_profile or .bashrc.
[06:57] <bhavesh> pfifo: I need to rearrange the stuff... dunno what to do exactly
[06:57] <Sample> whoa okay thats a lot to parse
[06:58] <pfifo> bhavesh, its probbally more trouble than its worth unless wor willing to delete everything and start over
[06:58] <rigved> bhavesh: first check which swap partition your linux OS is using from /etc/fstab. then use 'sudo swapoff'. format the other swap partitions that you do not use and run 'sudo swapon'.
[06:58] <gaelfx> I need to copy a /home folder from an old install over to a new install  on a separate disk, what's the best way to do it?
[06:58] <bhavesh> rigved: k
[06:59] <bhavesh> ill download gparted
[06:59] <Awolf_> Rigved that is one hell of a site I'm out to start my life Thanks a lot yet again.
[06:59] <Sample> NightMonkey: just for clarification, when you say export TERM do you mean doing 'export TERM="rxvt-unicode" <program>'
[06:59] <Sample> just like the original way you mentioned
[06:59] <NightMonkey> Sample: This might also be useful for you: http://www.catonmat.net/blog/screen-terminal-emulator-cheat-sheet/
[06:59] <rigved> Awolf_: :)
[06:59] <pfifo> !best | gaelfx
[06:59] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, no, that's later.
[06:59] <Nuge> weez, what is the difference between generic and generic-pae?
[06:59] <gaelfx> I need to copy a /home folder from an old install over to a new install  on a separate disk, what's the EASIEST way to do it?
[07:00] <NightMonkey> Sample: Just 'TERM="rxvt-unicode" <program>', just to see that that's the right TERM for you (there's a few to try to fix your lineart issue.)
[07:00] <Sample> okay
[07:00] <pfifo> gaelfx, i would say tarball it and burn it to a cd, unless it is huge then rsync over a network becomes an otpiton
[07:01] <Heylookitsbret> is there a way to extend the gnome menu to two monitors?
[07:01] <weez> Nuge: can you be a bit more specific?
[07:01] <gaelfx> pfifo: way too huge for tarring and burning, ca I rsync if I put them both in the same machine?
[07:02] <Guest29867> Can the gnu c compiler be run on Eclipse  anyone here done that?
[07:02] <pfifo> gaelfx, if you can move both drives to the same machine then the copy command is the easiest
[07:02] <gaelfx> pfifo: will that take care of hidden files and whatnot?
[07:03] <Nuge> Weez, on the grub menu, there's an entry that is Linux 2.6.38-8-generic-pae and Linux 2.6.38-8-generic along with their respective recovery modes.
[07:03] <pfifo> Guest29867, yes eclipse supports gcc, g++ and the objective c options that i know of
[07:03] <Guest29867> <--need sample test code beyond "helloworld" that works
[07:03] <Jordan_U> !pae | Nuge
[07:05] <pfifo> gaelfx, with the correct switch, i usually do `sudo cp -a /home/pfifo /mnt/pfifo` you could also leave offf the username to copy more than one user
[07:05] <weez> Nuge: I believe that pae lets 32 bit computers use more RAM, like a 64 bit. Dont quote me on that though.
[07:05] <weez> Nuge:I see that ubottu agrees
[07:05] <Nuge> Jordan_U, thank you.
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Nuge: You're welcome.
[07:06] <Sample> NightMonkey: when I ran screen with that TERM command it said "aborted because of window size change" or something similar
[07:06] <pfifo> gaelfx, rsync is perfectly fine if your already familiar
[07:06] <NightMonkey> Sample: You might need to increase the size of your terminal window, since screen takes a line off the bottom.
[07:06] <NightMonkey> Sample: (I'm don't know your program "moc"...)
[07:06] <Sample> oh oh okay
[07:07] <Sample> i think i know what i did wrong
[07:07] <Sample> i was trying to run screen itself through that TERM command
[07:07] <Sample> not just the moc player
[07:07] <Guest29867> ...oh yeah..."anyone here on an IBM POWER7 system?"
[07:07] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, yeah, that's backwards. ;)
[07:07] <Sample> but alas that didnt fix it
[07:08] <Sample> made things look a bit crazy in fact =P
[07:08] <NightMonkey> Sample: The TERM stuff is to change the value of TERM within the screen session.
[07:08] <Sample> ohhh
[07:08] <Sample> ok
[07:08] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, okay, another to try is the value your terminal sets. So, to find that, type 'echo $TERM' in a non-screen-ified terminal.
[07:09] <Sample> xterm
[07:09] <Sample> but doing TERM='xterm' mocp still no luck
[07:09] <NightMonkey> Sample: OK, great. You normally run moc through an xterm?
[07:09] <Sample> the terminal-based UI border that should appear as ---- appears as ââââ
[07:10] <Sample> yes
[07:10] <Sample> i guess
[07:10] <Sample> moc is a terminal based music player/library
[07:11] <NightMonkey> Sample: Weird. Get rid of that termcap line I suggested. See if that helps.
[07:11] <tux19> what is the ubuntu chat room
[07:12] <NightMonkey> tux19: What is the tux19?
[07:12]  * PurpleSmoke is away: Away
[07:12] <tux19> whats the chat room
[07:12] <yo> i hate unity and gnome 3 whats alternatives
[07:12] <Sample> very zen
[07:13] <rww> !away > PurpleSmoke
[07:13] <rww> tux19: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for non-support chatter.
[07:14] <tux19> thanks i just wanted the now the chat room
[07:14] <pfifo> yo, there are many, kde, xfce4 are other popular options, you should still be able to use gnome2 for a while longer as well
[07:14] <Sample> tux19 does not pass the turning test
[07:14] <NightMonkey> Sample: Heh! :)
[07:15] <Heylookitsbret> can anybody help me create a network bridge?
[07:15] <NightMonkey> Sample: Oh, and I have a better caption line for you:
[07:15] <bot_killer> can anyone suggest a good compilation tool? I'm new to linux, and I'm looking for something easy and efficient
[07:15] <NightMonkey> Sample: caption always " %?%F%{.R.}%?%3n [%h]%?"
[07:15] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: gcc. Quite popular.
[07:15] <yo> ayuda
[07:16] <yo> ayuda
[07:16] <bot_killer> oh sorry I meant configuration and make tool?
[07:16] <bot_killer> I have certain C codes
[07:16] <bot_killer> I want it all to get installed
[07:16] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: autoconf?
[07:16] <pfifo> bot_killer, what does the package require?
[07:16] <bot_killer> yes I read about it in wikipedia... do you think that's good?
[07:17] <bot_killer> the wiki page was very critical about it
[07:17] <bot_killer> said it was old and did unnecesarry things
[07:17] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: Sounds like me.
[07:17] <bot_killer> pfifo what do you mean?
[07:17] <bot_killer> I have some basic C programs
[07:17] <Jordan_U> bot_killer: What are you trying to install?
[07:17] <bot_killer> that use certain libraries like fftw
[07:17] <Heylookitsbret> i went an enabled the ipv4 tab to share to other computers, and its still not working? any suggestions?
[07:17] <pfifo> bot_killer, what kind of tools are you currently using? and on what OS?
[07:18] <Ziber> I seem to have deleted the bottom panel showing the applications. How can I restore that? ubuntu 10.10...
[07:18] <Jordan_U> !resetpanel | Ziber
[07:18] <bot_killer> I'm writing my codes in C in ubuntu, and compiling it using g++ (gcc)
[07:18] <bot_killer> now I have a group of codes
[07:18] <bot_killer> (.C files)
[07:18] <bot_killer> and .o files
[07:19] <pfifo> bot_killer, but are they currently designed to work with anything special?
[07:19] <Ziber> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You're welcome.
[07:19] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: Yah, lots of folks like cmake.
[07:20] <bot_killer> they are designed to work using pipelining. example -    input.dat | myfile | output.dat
[07:20] <hiexpo> cmake is ok i use it
[07:20] <bot_killer> myfile will process the input file, perform certain operations (like the fourier transform), and output it in output.dat
[07:20] <bot_killer> ohk then cmake it is!
[07:20] <pfifo> bot_killer, you seem to be able to chose any option you want, autoconf is nice and mature, and the kids love cmake
[07:21] <bot_killer> I'll go with the kids :P
[07:22] <bot_killer> thanks a lot pfifo NightMonkey
[07:22] <NightMonkey> bot_killer: BTW, that criticism section on WP is pretty poorly sourced. Like everything, if you don't read the manual, things might break.
[07:22] <optidude> hey all
[07:22] <optidude> have a question,
[07:22] <sqqqrly> Hello channel
[07:23] <sqqqrly> anyone a screen expert?
[07:23] <optidude> what is the easiest way to install Ubuntu along side windows 7
[07:23] <sqqqrly> use a thumb drive
[07:23] <robbiethe1st> Opti: Uh, install W7, pop the Ubuntu CD in the drive and go from there?
[07:23] <sqqqrly> or vmware / vertualbox
[07:23] <Jordan_U> optidude: Follow the instructions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:23] <Ziber> anyone familiar with using compiz inside a virtualbox VM of ubuntu? trying to take a screenshot of the cube...
[07:24] <sqqqrly> k
[07:24] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: You want to take a screenshot of your (virtualized) ubuntu desktop?
[07:25] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: yes.
[07:26] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Um, you may be able to simply hit the printscreen key. Alternately, I like to install and use 'scrot'; it's a command-line tool and can be used for custom-screenshots etc.
[07:26] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: ive tried both of those. inside virtualbox, with 3d acceleration, they dont know what to do so they basically take a blank picture.
[07:26] <optidude> well I did that the first time around and I messed up my original partition with vista, so my question is when Ubuntu asked me to split the partitions I just say yes???
[07:27] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Scrot? really?
[07:27] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Mhm. I did scrot -d 10 -c ubuntu_ss.jpg, and positioned the cube how I wanted it.
[07:27] <HeliusCron> anyone here know Mint
[07:27] <Ziber> Gave me a blank picture.
[07:27] <robbiethe1st> That's odd...Something to do with the driver most likely
[07:27] <Jordan_U> optidude: Messed up how?
[07:27] <rww> !mintsupport > HeliusCron
[07:28] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: You have the 3D driver installed, right?
[07:28] <optidude> wrote over my vista install...LOL
[07:28] <HeliusCron> its empty lol
[07:28] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Vbox didnt give me an error about it, so I imagine I do.
[07:28] <optidude> could not load back into vista... :-(
[07:28] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: How would I confirm that?
[07:28] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: what I'd do is run "glxinfo".
[07:28] <bot_killer> robbiethe1st why don't u run unity, and then take a screenshot via windows... if that's possible
[07:28] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: In the guest?
[07:28] <optidude> so i re-installed with win 7 and still wanted to put on Ubuntu
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Yes.
[07:29] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: alright, lets see here.
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> bot_killer: Uh, he didn't say he's running unity. Just compiz.
[07:29] <gaelfx> if I drag and drop my home folder to a new install, will the hidden files be copied as well, or do I need to use CLI for that?
[07:29] <optidude> so should i just reboot like i did the first time with Ubuntu and just make sure I seperate the partitions and will it give me a boot menu?
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> bot_killer: But the point still stands; it may be as much of a pain to do it that way what with it being somewhat accelerated... possibly
[07:29] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Got a crapload of output from that. WHat am I looking for specifcally?
[07:30] <ali_> hi
[07:30] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: If it doesn't give an error, look at the first few lines, including "direct rendering" and "server glx vendor"
[07:30] <Shield> optidude:  thats what I did about 3 hours ago
[07:30] <Ziber> 'direct rendering: yes'
[07:30] <optidude> shield: seperate the partitions?
[07:30] <ali_> hi
[07:30] <ruan> is ksplice-apply initrd.img-2.6.35-28-generic   correct syntax?
[07:30] <optidude> shield: that is what you did
[07:31] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: then yea, it's using the VirtualBox driver. Why not try taking a screenshot from windows?
[07:31] <robbiethe1st> (or your host)
[07:31] <Shield> correct.  I made sure that I had a seporate partition for linux, and then booted to the CD i made
[07:31] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Because I cant keep the cube in place and take a screen shot. :(
[07:32] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: that would work (and did, for other effects), but the cube wont stay without my key bindings.
[07:32] <Shield> let it install, do it's updates, then installed the needed video drivers, and then rebooted.  No problems.  bootloader came up fine
[07:32] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Hm... You need a delayed screenshot tool;
[07:32] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Tried gimp on windows, didnt work :/
[07:32] <Shield> gave each install its own 1TB partition
[07:33] <optidude> hmmmm
[07:33] <optidude> well i already installed win 7.....does that already mess it up
[07:33] <Shield> nope
[07:33] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: http://code.google.com/p/zscreen/
[07:33] <optidude> can i repartition with Ubuntu?
[07:33] <Shield> I had win7 on my box before i did the dual boot
[07:34] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Back when I used Windows, I used that. It's great, and can have delayed screenshots
[07:34] <ejsejs> Hey, this may be a silly question, but my friend's computer is running ubuntu, and she is having problems.  I think pressing Fn F7 may help her.  What is the symbol of the Fn function of F7 here?  http://tftscdn.nexus404.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads2/2008/11/pink-aspire-one-aoa150-1949-detail.jpg
[07:34] <Shield> I didnt use ubuntu to repartiton I just went into the device manager, and shrunk the C:\
[07:34] <optidude> how did you do that?
[07:35] <optidude> sorry, never shrunk a partition before....
[07:35] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: It refuses to see anything inside the VM window, though... :/
[07:35] <Shield> go into the control panel, and then open the device manager
[07:35] <bot_killer> ejsejs are you searching for the f7 key on the keyboard you mean?
[07:35] <Ziber> Shows exactly what Virtualbox's preview shows.
[07:35] <joshmc> optidude: go to disk manager in the admin tools I believe, under windows. iirc that's how I did it.
[07:35] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: Hm, shoot.
[07:35] <ejsejs> bot_killer: I want to know what the fn function is there
[07:36] <ejsejs> I can't tel what it is
[07:36] <Shield> joshmc: thats it i forgot what it was called
[07:36] <robbiethe1st> Ziber: See http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/quick-compiz-screenshots perhaps?
[07:36] <Shield> Optidude: when you go into the disk manager just right click the C:\ partition, and you should see the option to shrink
[07:36] <optidude> ok, in device manager
[07:36] <robbiethe1st> i.e. try it direct through compiz
[07:36] <rww> ejsejs: if you hold it down and press a button with blue text or picture on it, it does something different (indicated by the blue stuff) than what the button would usually do.
[07:37] <ejsejs> rww: right, I want to know what the alternate function is, pelase
[07:37] <optidude> cool, how much room do i need for Ubuntu....I have a 140gb for win 7 right now
[07:37] <bot_killer> while holding the fn key, you can press any other key
[07:37] <ejsejs> before I tel my friend (not with me right now) what it is
[07:37] <Ziber> robbiethe1st: Lets see here.
[07:37] <Shield> what size is your hhd?
[07:37] <bot_killer> then please send a better wuality picture
[07:37] <ejsejs> http://www.acceport.com/images/Laptop%20US%20Keyboard%20For%20Acer%20Aspire%20One%20531H.jpg
[07:37] <Ziber> How can I do that while holding the cube in place?
[07:37] <ejsejs> this better?
[07:37] <knoppies> optidude, ubuntu can run in 10GB of space, depends what you want to do with it.
[07:37] <Starminn> optitdude: During install it says you should have at least 2.5 for best performance. I'd say 20GB should be fine for all of your files and such. 15-20GB
[07:38] <rww> ejsejs: google says it enables and disables the touchpad
[07:38] <ejsejs> okay, thank you!
[07:38] <pehden> QUESTION: what is the easiest way to ssh tunnel the desktop from one ubuntu to another I have seen this done but they never clearly explain how.
[07:38] <optidude> total 160gb, after win 7 says 148gb
[07:38] <rww> I haven't used one though, so...
[07:38] <optidude> wow, thanks
[07:38] <optidude> still trying to shrink win 7 partition...lol
[07:39] <knoppies> pehden, I hope you find out, because I tried it a few times but never had any good results.
[07:39] <knoppies> optidude, I hope that goes well.
[07:39] <Sample> NightMonkey: just for update, moc claims it doesn't have a proper display in a UTF8 console. this seems to be something of the problem though i dont know why it would display in my normal terminal but not screen
[07:39] <robbiethe1st> pehden: "ssh user@ip_of_computer_to_connect_to"
[07:39] <bot_killer> esjesj http://netbooked.net/images/uploads/reviews/acer-aspire-one-751/acer-aspire-one-751-26.jpg ... if this your keyboard, the pressinf fn + f7 will disable toupad
[07:39] <totem> Alan Pope is here?
[07:39] <optidude> hmmmm, dont see an option to shrink partition...lol
[07:39] <CaliUbuntuguy> QUESTION: Does anybody know if Firefox4 is going to be an official update in the Ubuntu package manager? Or am I going to have to install it myself, not that it is out?
[07:40] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, I think he wants the WHOLE DESKTOP, a bit like remote desktop, but using X11 forwarding.
[07:40] <pehden> optidude: in windows 7 right click the hard drive make sure compression is off so it will give correct file size then you can strink it in linux
[07:40] <CaliUbuntuguy> now* that it is out
[07:40] <CaliUbuntuguy> typo
[07:40] <knoppies> optidude, I recommend you use gparted (on a liveCD) to edit partitions.
[07:41] <robbiethe1st> knoppies: In that case, I'd use vnc, especially if the computer's not right across the LAN.
[07:41] <pehden> knoppies optidude if your getting the dumb unable to error in ubuntu its the compression
[07:41] <ruan> where is the kernel gzip image located?
[07:41] <CaliUbuntuguy> Sorry, I meant to say: Ubuntu Update Manager
[07:41] <pehden> knoppies correct im trying to do remote desktop via ssh
[07:41] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, I find VNC takes a while to refresh the image, I want a way to tunnel it over SSH with X11 forwarding, I have tried it before, but never with good results.
[07:41] <ruan> ssh -X  ?
[07:42] <pehden> ruan tried that says X: user not autherized
[07:42] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, in my case, it is across the LAN.
[07:42] <robbiethe1st> knoppies: Well, it'll be somewhat slow. VNC can be set to have a lot lower delay, you know...?
[07:42] <knoppies> ruan, something like that, and then if I remember correctly your run gnome-desktop, but that didn't work out so well for me.
[07:43] <gaelfx> how can I copy /home from one hard drive to another, including hidden files? is drag and drop enough to do it?
[07:43] <knoppies> robbiethe1st, I don't remember seeing those options, but I don't doubt they are there.
[07:43] <daniel> hey were can i talk about beta 2 ?
[07:43] <NightMonkey> Sample: Huh, I'm at a loss there. UTF8 stuff is getting into locale issues.
[07:43] <ruan> daniel: ubuntu+1
[07:43] <ruan> daniel: #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <robbiethe1st> knoppies: I always use TightVNC; seems to do well
[07:43] <CaliUbuntuguy> @ gaelfx, drag and drop should be enough
[07:44] <daniel> ruan, how do i get there using smuxi ?
[07:44] <knoppies> gaelfx, if you drag the /home and not everything in it, then yes, but be careful, drag and drop might move the files.
[07:44] <totem> popey: hey how are you doing. i love your screencasts/podcast. :)
[07:44] <gaelfx> CaliUbuntuguy: thanks :D
[07:44] <ruan> daniel: try /join #ubuntu+1
[07:44] <pehden> robbiethe1st knoppies the best solution is teamviewer but in order to install or set that up you would have to login to the desktop and its way faster. They catch is got to login first with desktop view to set it up cause its GUI only
[07:45] <pehden> robbiethe1st knoppies im doing this on a server that has no mouse or monitor
[07:45] <jhala> can someone point to a package where i can design a circuit with logic gates
[07:45] <Sirkill2> hello
[07:45] <optidude> wow, cool found out where it was, shrinking by 20 gig
[07:45] <knoppies> jhala, logisim
[07:45] <robbiethe1st> pehden: Why not just tunnel individual X applications over x forwarding?
[07:46] <jhala> knoppies can i cut nd paste it  into a pdf report also?
[07:46] <optidude> if i put Ubuntu on that 20, on the reboot will I get a boot menu to choose what OS i want to boot?
[07:46] <Sirkill2> how would i go about getting wifi connection on my virtual machine it doesnt work when i try to use my wifi stick becuase it doesnt have the approproate drivers
[07:46] <Sirkill2> and i cant install them
[07:46] <robbiethe1st> optidude: If you've got two OS's on the PC it'll give you a menu.
[07:46] <Sirkill2> because i dont understand the instructions
[07:46] <knoppies> jhala, its not a package in the repos, its a java application. Let me find the link. There are plenty of packages in the repos. jhala you can export it to .jpg or .png, Im not 100% sure about .pdf, let me have a look.
[07:46] <pehden> robbiethe1st that would be with ssh -CX ip program
[07:47] <robbiethe1st> optidude: If you /only/ have linux then  - by default- it won't show the menu
[07:47] <robbiethe1st> pehden: yea
[07:47] <Sirkill2> anyone?
[07:47] <robbiethe1st> pehden: Or skip the program(which will give you a terminal), then launch whatever you want
[07:48] <pehden> robbiethe1st  does it have to be filename or  can i do /dir/location/filename
[07:48] <knoppies> jhala, you can export it to .jpg .png or .gif If you want to convert it to PDF then I think you might have to print it to pdf.
[07:48] <jhala> knoppies : yes please have a look. i did install geda but it does not provide gates but is very good with flipflops transistors ics and other microchips. i need something to work with logical gates like and nand etc
[07:48] <robbiethe1st> pehden: I'd read 'man ssh' if I were you.. but with any Linux thing, /path/to/file is always good.
[07:49] <kwtm> Hi. Sometimes Ubuntu thinks my Alt (or sometimes Ctrl or Shift) key is held down when in fact it isn't.  How can I trigger a "
[07:49] <Ycarene> I've installed oss v4, I'd like to not have to re-install it every time I update my kernel, is there a way to get the update process to re-compile the oss drivers?
[07:49] <knoppies> jhala, logisim does that. It also enables you to make your own ICs that you can then import into other projects.
[07:49] <pehden> robbiethe1st  all the examples i have found only show the filename not the entire location so i was like maybe/maybe not
[07:50] <robbiethe1st> pehden: Uh... remember to RTFM. That's the one source you can trust. ;)
[07:50] <jhala> knoppies : wonder why ubuntu doesnot have a repo
[07:50] <robbiethe1st> jhala: Uh... 'course it does.
[07:50] <kwtm> Hi. Sometimes Ubuntu thinks my Alt (or sometimes Ctrl or Shift) key is held down when in fact it isn't.  How can I trigger a "release Alt" or "release Ctrl" signal of some sort the keyboard will work again? Then I can set up the GUI to do this when I click on an icon, allowing me to use the keyboard.
[07:50] <knoppies> jhala, what do you mean, ubuntu does have a repo.
[07:50] <kwtm> I know it's a software problem because when I switch users (e.g. Ctrl-Shift-F8) then the keyboard works again, until I switch back.
[07:51] <pehden> robbiethe1st  sorry RTFM>
[07:51] <jhala> knppies: repo with logisim
[07:51] <ubuntu> estoy instalando lubuntu...
[07:51] <ubuntu> que tal_-=-
[07:51] <pehden> robbiethe1st  nvm
[07:51] <pehden> robbiethe1st  had to think bout it
[07:51] <robbiethe1st> :P
[07:52] <ubuntu> alguien habla espa;ol
[07:52] <pehden> robbiethe1st  its 1:52AM
[07:52] <pehden> robbiethe1st  been long day
[07:52] <robbiethe1st> Yea, I know the feeling.
[07:52] <kwtm> !es > ubuntu
[07:52] <bullgard4> Where is the Gajim config file in GNOME? .config/gajim does not exist.
[07:52] <Sample> how can I find my vim plugins directory? that is to say, i installed via apt-get and i dont know where it put everything. id' like to "whereis vim" but tell that command, please show me "whereis vim" IF.. it contains a directory 'plugins'
[07:52] <Sample> or some such thing
[07:52] <kwtm> ubuntu: Hablo un poquito espanol, pero estaria mejor si usa la canale #ubuntu-es
[07:53] <kwtm> Sample: "dpkg -L <pkgname>"   In your case, <pkgname> is vim
[07:53] <Sample> ok ill check that out
[07:55] <knoppies> jhala, http://ozark.hendrix.edu/~burch/logisim/
[07:55] <knoppies> jhala, thats logisim.
[07:55] <Sample> kwtm: still doesn't tell me where the plugins directory is, and im sure there is one because vim always has one
[07:55] <kwtm> Sample: That's not necessarily true.  I'll go look for my plugins on my own version of vim, but vim itself doesn't come with a plugins directory.
[07:56] <Sample> oh o.O
[07:56] <CaliUbuntuguy> QUESTION: Does anybody know if Firefox 4 is going to be an official update in the Ubuntu Update Manager? Or am I going to have to install it myself, now that Firefox 4 is out?
[07:56] <Sample> then how on earth am i suppose to know where to create it o.O
[07:56] <kwtm> Sample: Okay, I have ~/.vim/ftplugin for the filetype plugin, but there may be other plugins.
[07:56] <Sample> there's also a /colors directory for themes and stuff
[07:56] <knoppies> QUESTION: Other than SBackup, do you guys know of any good 'backup on click'? I have about 5 groups of things I would like to backup, with the option of only backing up one or two this time.
[07:56] <Sample> i dont see them listed and i woudlnt know where im supposed to create them (where vim looks)
[07:57] <Sample> this is a reoccuring problem for me on linux so far
[07:57] <knoppies> Sample, I would google where to install vim plugins, but yes, it is an issue.
[07:57] <NightMonkey> Sample: Here's a trick for vim:
[07:57] <pehden> back some how i guess i closed this
[07:58] <kwtm> Sample: #vim
[07:58] <NightMonkey> Sample: 'vim -V8boo.out'
[07:58] <NightMonkey> Sample: Exit vim.
[07:58] <jhala> knppies: thanks
[07:58] <NightMonkey> Sample: 'less boo.out'
[07:58] <kwtm> Sample: I don't think there's a particular place.  Just depends on how your .vimrc is set up.
[07:59] <Sample> i just had to Cd into the various directories provded by "whereis"
[07:59] <Sample> and then finally found both the plugin and the colors directory
[07:59] <Sample> but this doesnt seem ideal
[07:59] <NightMonkey> Sample: Take my tip, and you'll find what you seek.
[07:59] <Sample> k
[07:59] <bullgard4> [soved]
[07:59] <bullgard4> [solved]
[08:01] <Ycarene> I have installed a .deb that includes a kernel module.  Anytime I update the kernel through the updater, it recompiles all of my necessary modules except this one, how do I add this one to the list that it upgrades?
[08:01] <CaliUbuntuguy> QUESTION: Does anybody know if Firefox4 is going to be an official update in the Ubuntu Update Manager? Or am I going to have to install it myself, now that it is out?
[08:01] <ruan> !ff4
[08:01] <Starminn> !ff4
[08:01] <ruan> CaliUbuntuguy: it will be in natty
[08:02] <NightMonkey> Sample: Most important: have fun.
[08:02] <CaliUbuntuguy> thanx ubottu
[08:02] <ruan> how do i do ksplice?
[08:02] <Ycarene> !oss
[08:02] <Sample> oh i am =) (generally)
[08:02] <Sample> my biggest loss is the linux file structure
[08:03] <crackguy> how can i mount a NTFS USB HDD to linux (citrix xenserver)
[08:03] <Sample> "how do i know where screen reads its screenrc, how do i know where vim reads vimrc, how do i know where irssi stores its scripts when i want to make one, how do i know where my vim colors directory is so i can wget a theme into it"
[08:03] <Sample> etc etc, those are my only annoyances so far
[08:04] <ruan> !info oss4-base
[08:04] <Diamondcite> Sample: It seems to make more sense than having programs everywhere in multiple pieces with no way to tell which went where?
[08:04] <Sample> i dare say its more managable/straight forward in windows. everything the app needs is in its install directory in Program Files, The End! *gets ready to be beaten*
[08:04] <operatorplik> jakarta
[08:05] <Sample> Diamondcite: that's what I feel like is going on.
[08:05] <pehden> Sample are you aware of nano?
[08:05] <ruan> Sample: settings are stored in home
[08:05] <pehden> Sample it is alot easier to use then vim
[08:05] <NightMonkey> Sample: man vim, man screen, man irssi would have answered those questions.
[08:06] <Diamondcite> Sample: So.. all things you can run go into /usr/bin, all configuration defaults in /etc, all system data logs(event viewer) in /var/log ... anything else important?
[08:06] <ruan> ^^
[08:06] <evstevemd> I want to migrate my Podcasts from GPodder to Rhythmbox, but the problem is RB wants to redownload everything. How can I migrate yet not re download Gigs of already there files. Thanks
[08:06] <Sample> pdhden: oddly enough though im coming off windows im totally proficient in vim =)
[08:07] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, there are lots of tools that are not available in the stock Windows install which are in most Linux distros. For instance, *if* you wanted to, you could actually trace exactly where vim seeks it's files.
[08:07] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, Windows and Linux have very different philosophies behind their working models.
[08:07] <Sample> Diamondcite: well it's sort of like.. k so i apt-installed irissi and now it's in 5 directories. and one of those i guess ill throw the scripts into (i hope) and so i go prowling around until i find the scripts directory
[08:07] <Sample> (and it happens to be /usr/share/irssi)
[08:08] <pehden> evestevmd you could import the folder
[08:08] <pehden> evestevemd you could import the folder
[08:08] <Sample> windows just has (for example) Program Files/mIRC/scripts (nothing else)
[08:08] <pehden> evetevemd you could import the folder
[08:08] <pehden> sorry
[08:08] <Diamondcite> Sample: But if you are after custom scripts, those go into your own personal .irssi .. not sure why you would force the scripts in there..
[08:08] <NightMonkey> Sample: Not much prowling needed. Just man irssi. The script directories are listed at the end.
[08:08] <Sample> i love vim aside from just feeling like i my apps are in 6 places
[08:08] <Sample> i mean i love linux, sorry vim on the mind still =P
[08:09] <ruan> it's all for safety
[08:09] <NightMonkey> Sample: The manual pages are core to UNIX/Linux.
[08:09] <ruan> partially for organisation
[08:09] <Sample> yeah ive been kind of using them ,and using / in them as well
[08:09] <Sample> but they're not exactly clear, i usually just have to google
[08:10] <shaiguitar> Reading state information... Done
[08:10] <shaiguitar> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[08:10] <shaiguitar> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:10] <shaiguitar>   nginx-full: Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid) but it is not going to be installed
[08:10] <FloodBot2> shaiguitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <shaiguitar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:10] <shaiguitar> What does that mean and how do I fix it ?
[08:10] <ruan> shaiguitar: try sudo apt-get install nginx-common
[08:10] <NightMonkey> Sample: The wide availability of man(ual) pages is a core reason why *NIX is widely used. When you install a non-gui app, and sometimes guis, always check for man pages by the same name.
[08:10] <Sample> like I don't really get why there is "modules" in /usr/lib/irssi but "scripts" in /usr/share/irssi
[08:10] <shaiguitar> ruan: http://pastie.org/private/xpzfzkbpymdeebmj7pivbg
[08:11] <Sample> im like.. hmm... okay then o.O
[08:11] <shaiguitar> rm  /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid_all.deb  ?
[08:11] <Sample> i guess ill get used to the directory conventions and things being all split up everywhere
[08:12] <shaiguitar> hmm, rm'ing  /var/cache/apt/archives/nginx-common_1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid_all.deb  doesn't  work either.
[08:12] <shaiguitar> So that means there's a problem with the package itself ?
[08:12] <Starminn> How can I record in Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop from my mic?
[08:12] <ruan> looks like it
[08:12] <ruan> what happens if you get the PPA of nginx
[08:12] <pehden> Sample its wierd but after ahwile you dont even notice it
[08:12] <NightMonkey> Sample: That's not really a Linux-y thing, more an irssi-y thing.
[08:12] <darkcore> hi, anyone here available for some help?
[08:12] <ruan> Starminn: use sound recorder or audacity
[08:12] <pehden> darkcore just ask the question
[08:13] <Starminn> ruan: Not happening for me. Just not working.
[08:13] <pehden> !any
[08:13] <ruan> Starminn: are sound settings correct?
[08:13] <Starminn> pehden: That was a little rude.
[08:13] <NightMonkey> Sample: There are plenty of examples of Windows/Mac/Linux apps which don't follow the "rules" of where their files live.
[08:13] <pehden> Starminn wasnt trying to be
[08:14] <darkcore> I installed Ubuntu 11.04b, with encrypted home folder, then I installed XFCE 4.8, but it apparantly doesn't decrypt the home folder when I log on with XFCE, as I can't access my home folder. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:14] <Ycarene> Ugh, I guess it can't be done.
[08:14] <Starminn> ruan:I'm playing guitat from my amp (amp is directly hooked to my mic input jack) and while sound does come out of the speakers (without any need for special programs open) but it won't record that sound.
[08:14] <Starminn> !natty | darkcore
[08:14] <darkcore> oh, right, my bad :)
[08:14] <Starminn> darkcore: :)
[08:15] <bhavesh> I caI want to report a bug but I cannot get my ubuntu release information via lsb_release -rd on 11.04 what should I do?
[08:15] <Ycarene> Does anyone know if this can be done?
[08:15] <Starminn> pehden: That's fine. And for future reference, it's !anyone and I think !anybody triggers it too
[08:15] <Sample> NightMonkey: that's true but i mean it's extremely uncommon that apps aren't all bundled in the same directory in win.
[08:15] <shaiguitar> ruan: what's the PPA of nginx ?
[08:15] <Sample> that's the biggest thing im having to get used to
[08:15] <ruan> shaiguitar: search on launchpad
[08:15] <pehden> Starminn i was trying to post that but it didnt work
[08:15] <bhavesh> how c an I get my ubutnu release information/
[08:15] <NightMonkey> Sample: Oh, but their files are scattered across user profiles, for sure... ;)
[08:16] <shaiguitar> ruan: sorry, I've been a gentoo guy a long time, but just recently ubuntu. what's launchpad / ... ?
[08:16] <Starminn> bhavesh: System->Administration->System Monitor
[08:16] <pehden> darkcore ill get you alink
[08:16] <bhavesh> I cannot get whre system is on 11.04
[08:16] <NightMonkey> Sample: "Application Data", "Local Settings", etc.
[08:16] <ruan> shaiguitar: a site
[08:16] <tensorpudding> shaiguitar: https://launchpad.net/
[08:16] <Sample> based upon vim and irssi so far im getting the idea that /usr/share is sort of the "program files" directory im used to
[08:16] <ruan> shaiguitar: it has most if not all PPAs
[08:16] <Sample> and /usr/lib is libraries for the program and /bin is the program itself
[08:16] <Starminn> bhavesh: #ubuntu+1 is Natty support. 11.04 is NOT supported here. Read the channel topics when entering channels please.
[08:16] <tensorpudding> it's the site which hosts the ubuntu bugtracker, project homepages, and a lot of other stuff
[08:16] <NightMonkey> !lsb
[08:16] <shaiguitar> PPA = personal package archives ?
[08:17] <ruan> !ppa
[08:17] <pehden> darkcore http://www.satansgarden.org/2010/03/05/removing-encryption-from-home-directories-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[08:18] <pehden> darkcore i used that to do it it should work the same way for you
[08:18] <Ycarene> How do I get ubuntu to recompile kernel modules for a package installed when I update the kernel?
[08:18] <shaiguitar> tensorpudding: ruan: hmm, well oddly I do have nginx 1.0, so the nginx-common did work, but http://pastie.org/private/xpzfzkbpymdeebmj7pivbg still keeps on happening for non-nginx apt stuff as well.
[08:19] <buharin> hello
[08:19] <buharin> anyone here?
[08:19] <shaiguitar> tensorpudding: ruan: is there a way to just rm that error from apt so I can proceed with other stuff ?
[08:19]  * buharin searching eclipse user
[08:19] <tersecol> I want to try Unity, but my laptop screen is slightly damaged at the top and this hides the top panel. In Gnome I just put an empty panel over it, but that option isn't in Unity. Any ideas people?
[08:19] <shaiguitar>   libxmlrpc-c3-dev: Depends: libxmlrpc-core-c3-dev but it is not going to be installed
[08:19] <shaiguitar>   nginx-full: Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~lucid) but it is not going to be installed
[08:19] <shaiguitar> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:19] <shaiguitar> "or specify a solution" what does that mean in that context ?
[08:19] <FloodBot2> shaiguitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:20] <bullgard4> How can I add in "Passwords and Encryption" a Gajim login password?
[08:20] <Sample> this question is unlikely/from right field, but ill ask anyways: does lynx (or are there plugins to lynx, or other terminal browsers) which support vim-style key bindings, like 'yy' to copy all text on the line, etc
[08:20] <Sample> im finding navigating lynx a bit difficult
[08:22] <NightMonkey> Sample: You might try "links" or "w3m". links uses ctrl-X/ctrl-V for cut/paste, if I understand your question.
[08:22] <Starminn> tersecol: Read the channel topic regarding Natty support.
[08:22] <Sample> k thanks
[08:22] <dEhiN> hi all, how do I access the terminals/consoles in ubuntu 10.10? I tried ctrl+alt+f# but anything from f1-f6 just gave me the gnome desktop with the mouse cursor missing, and then ctrl+alt+f7 gave me the gnome desktop with the mouse cursor
[08:22] <Starminn> My mic input jack is working but won't record sound. Suggestions?
[08:23] <NightMonkey> Naughty Natty.
[08:23] <NightMonkey> !Natty
[08:23] <Sample> ubuntu 11 is a narwhal, thats pretty awesome
[08:24] <Sample> NightMonkey: essentially I'm trying to get the wombat theme for vim and the vim.org/scripts page is mega simple. so rather than have to bounce into windows, navigate through chrome, grab the link, wget it into my terminal, im just tryint to do it all within terminal via lynx where I can then copy the URL and wget it
[08:25] <shaiguitar> aptitude purge nginx-common
[08:25] <bullgard4> !sound | Starminn
[08:25] <Starminn> Sample 11.04. Different from 11.10. ;)
[08:26] <dEhiN> does ubuntu have virtual consoles?
[08:26] <Ycarene> ok, I need to use dkms, how do I get dkms (rocket) to recompile ossv4 when I update my kernel?
[08:26] <petrolol> kubuntu sucks
[08:26] <NightMonkey> Sample: Are you running Linux with X?
[08:26] <bignono1> lenovo netbook dual winxp & ubuntu 10.04 , deleted winxp ,now can not run ubuntu ,please help
[08:26] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Yes.
[08:27] <Ycarene> !dkms
[08:27] <dEhiN> bullgard4: how do I access them from the gnome desktop - ctrl+alt+f#?
[08:27] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Yes.
[08:27] <dEhiN> didn't work when I tried it...but I'll reboot and try again
[08:29] <bullgard4> dEhiN: If this does not help you better check dmesg: Do '~$ dmesg > dmesg.log' and read dmesg.log with a text editor, e. g. gajim.
[08:29] <bullgard4> dEhiN: If this does not help you better check dmesg: Do '~$ dmesg > dmesg.log' and read dmesg.log with a text editor, e. g. gedit.
[08:29] <Sample> NightMonkey: im on windows running Ubuntu 10 terminal through PuTTY
[08:29] <ruan> !text
[08:29] <ruan> oops
[08:29] <ruan> !editor
[08:30] <NightMonkey> Sample: Ah, now things start to become clear. :)
[08:30] <Sample> maybe if i learn lynx commands better this will be an easier process. the "." command in lynx means "open this url in external program" so i can probably do "." followed by "wget" or some such. however, there doesn't seem to be a "copy this link to clipboard" kind of thing going on
[08:30] <dEhiN> thanks bullgard4, ruan
[08:31] <NightMonkey> Sample: The "clipboard" is a GUI thing, though screen has a copy-and-paste function.
[08:31] <bullgard4> How can I add in "Passwords and Encryption" a Gajim login password?
[08:31] <NightMonkey> Sample: So, what you're asking for doesn't really apply in a text-only environment, without help.
[08:32] <NightMonkey> Sample: But, again, screen has a way to help you.
[08:32] <Sample> oh great
[08:32] <Sample> that may be my solution
[08:33] <Starminn> bullgard4: I've tried all those. What happens is, the mic unput jack outputs the sound through my speakers (and it sounds perfect, by the way). but when I go to record it, it can't record anything, despite the sound still happening through the speakers.
[08:33] <optidude> hey all
[08:33] <optidude> back...hehehe
[08:33] <optidude> now on ubuntu...
[08:33] <optidude> that did not take too long..lol
[08:33] <Starminn> optidude: Congrats!
[08:34] <optidude> got it installed next to my windows 7 install, but i now have to fix my win 7 wireless....
[08:34] <optidude> thanks starminn
[08:34] <optidude> :-)
[08:34] <NightMonkey> Sample: BTW, you might like SecureCRT better than Putty, but it isn't F/OSS.
[08:35] <Starminn> optidude: What is wrong with your Win7?
[08:35] <optidude> its funny becuase i reinstall win 7 on a fresh install and it cant see my wireless adapter (which built on) and I install Ubuntu and it connects right away....LOL
[08:35] <Sample> ah okay thanks
[08:36] <NightMonkey> Sample: Also, you might investigate Cygwin, and use Cygwin's X, rxvt terminal, etc. to connect to your Linux boxes.
[08:36] <optidude> starminn:  I cant get my wireless adapter to install
[08:36] <Starminn> optidude: Ah. Well the folks in ##windows should be able to help with that whenever you feel like getting around to that. :)
[08:36] <optidude> hmmmm
[08:36] <bhavesh> is there any way to reduce the size of all the desktop icons at once?
[08:36] <Starminn> bhaveshL Highlight them all and resize? (theory)
[08:36] <Sample> NightMonkey: ah okay interesting idea
[08:36] <optidude> niiiiccceee
[08:37] <bhavesh> nope doesnt work
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> helloo.
[08:37] <bhavesh> starminn
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> can any one help me with the windows installer?
[08:37] <Starminn> bhavesh: Ah. Than no, I don't think so.
[08:37] <Starminn> TOMATOEEEE: ##windows
[08:37] <bhavesh> there is a option in preferences
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> ##windows
[08:37] <bhavesh> but it reduces to 66% directly :(
[08:37] <mouse> Does times new roman go by a different name in linux or do I have to get that from a different source?
[08:37] <NightMonkey> Sample: I'm gonna guess that using a decent Cygwin environment might also fix those character set issues you were having in your terminal, too.
[08:37] <TOMATOEEEE> Come again Starminn?
[08:37] <Starminn> mouse: There's a package for MS fonts
[08:38] <bhavesh> I think in 11.04 all MS fonts are preinstalled
[08:38] <Starminn> TOMATOEEEE: Ask in the ##windows channel. Windows is not supported here in #ubuntu
[08:38] <TOMATOEEEE> oh okay.
[08:38] <bhavesh>  /join #windows
[08:38] <Sample> crap... im stuck in lynx. i didnt run it with sudo and now it's asking me to name my download file and when i hit enter it says it cant write but i cant seem to be able to close lynx because i cant issue "Q" for quit because im in a "name the file, type anything you want" lock, nooooo, lol
[08:38] <NightMonkey> Sample: (It won't fix Putty, but will fix the problem by offering a better terminal application.)
[08:38] <mouse> Starminn, Yeah I thought that's what it was too and it says it's installed but I don't see times new roman any where.
[08:38] <Starminn> mouse: Open OpenOffice/LibreOffice and try to select it.
[08:38] <shaiguitar> thanks ruan
[08:38] <Sample> well oddly via putty the display is fine, its just awry when i run screen and then run the app
[08:38] <bhavesh> is open office and libre office same?
[08:38] <shaiguitar> the purge and re=install worked.
[08:39] <NightMonkey> Sample: Hrm. I don't think you'd need to sudo to run lynx...?
[08:39] <mouse> Starminn, I'm in openoffice right now and it's not in there.
[08:39] <Starminn> bhavesh: Eh.. LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice. LibreOffice didn't like how things were being run so they split
[08:39] <soreau> Sample: Can you get to a tty and kill lynx?
[08:39] <ruan> Sample: type ctrl z then killall lynx
[08:39] <hiexpo> bhavesh, yes
[08:39] <bhavesh> ok
[08:39] <mouse> Starminn, And the package manager says the ms fonts are installed.
[08:39] <Starminn> mouse: Search in Ubuntu Software Center "MS fonts"
[08:39] <Starminn> mouse: Install the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[08:39] <Sample> i luckly remembered that since im in screen i can do "ctrl+a k" and kill it, phew. lol... lynx
[08:40]  * NightMonkey runsaroundrunsaround
[08:40] <mouse> Starminn, It's already installed.
[08:40] <Starminn> mouse:Hmm... Have you logged out/in since installing? (Just a wild guess. Nto sure if it will make much of a differencE)
[08:41] <bhavesh> I installed 11.04 and my upgrade manager still says it needs to be partially upgraded
[08:41] <Toiletbowl> :)
[08:41] <bhavesh> what should I do?
[08:41] <mouse> Starminn, No doubt I have since I have no memory of installing msfonts recently.
[08:41] <marlow> quit
[08:41] <Starminn> mouse: :)
[08:41] <bullgard4> Starminn: So your recording program is badly configured.
[08:41] <Starminn> bhavesh: Natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <bhavesh> ik
[08:41] <nomicos> Does Unity Desktop Environments will normally work on OC with 512 MB of RAM and Pentium 4 processor?
[08:41] <bhavesh> ok
[08:41] <Starminn> bullgard4: All 4 of them that I've tried?
[08:42] <Nomicos> *PC
[08:42] <mouse> Starminn, I'm going to try reinstalling msfonts to see if that helps.
[08:42] <Starminn> mouse: Hmm... You could always make sure that they're in ~/.fonts and copy them there if not
[08:42] <Starminn> mouse: Yeah, it's worth a shot.
[08:42] <bullgard4> Starminn: If you tried 4 recording programs and all 4 failed then your sound manager is mis-confgured.
[08:43] <mouse> Starminn, How would I do that?
[08:43] <bullgard4> +i
[08:43] <Starminn> mouse: Try reinstalling it first.
[08:43] <mouse> Starminn, k
[08:43] <Starminn> bullgard4: Sound manager as in Sound Preferences?
[08:44] <bullgard4> Starminn: The GNOME default sound manager is PulseAudio.
[08:47] <john2011> can anyone help i'm trying to install duel boot ubuntu and it's failing
[08:47] <Starminn> bullgard4: In Pulse Audio Volume Control (PAVC) the Input device is set to max volume. But the sound levels only fluctuate when I'm playing music (i.e. Rhythmbox, Banshee)
[08:47] <Starminn> john2011: What keeps happening?
[08:47] <john2011> i'm getting boot is missing
[08:49] <mouse> Well that did the trick.  Thank you.
[08:49] <soreau> john2011: You might need to reinstall the boot loader
[08:49] <soreau> ! grub2 | john2011
[08:49] <ljsoftnet> is there a way to boost youtube videos audio, im maxing out my volume but still, the sound is too low
[08:50] <jam2011> I was formatting my existing ubuntu 10.04 and doing a fresh install (last time it was an upgrade) . I am run into a problem. I got the message "Unable to install grub in /dev/sda".. I selected the option of continuing without a bootloader option...Now I need to mannually install the bootloader.. how do I do it?
[08:50] <Starminn> mouse: Glad to hear it! Do you dual-boot? (If you do then you can get the non-free ones from your Windows installation)
[08:50] <dEhiN> ljsoftnet: are you maxed in your system sound and the youtube vid volume?
[08:51] <mouse> Starminn, Sure do.  I only need those fonts for my reports since the professor said they have to be in MLA format and all.
[08:51] <ljsoftnet> dEhiN yeah
[08:51] <Adityab> Hi all - I just upgraded my system to natty beta 2 and the dash thing I get by clicking the 'ubuntu button' in unity isn't resizable - it just covers the whole screen
[08:51] <Adityab> the same for other lenses
[08:51] <jam2011> how can I manually install a bootloader in ubuntu
[08:52] <bullgard4> Starminn:  I believe that the best tool for checking is alsamixer. But even alsamixer for some hardware does not reveal all missing connections.
[08:52] <gaelfx> Adityab: ubuntu+1 for beta discussions
[08:52] <Adityab> ok
[08:52] <dEhiN> jam2011: you can't if you can't boot into ubuntu...you'll have to boot into another system if you have dual/multi-boot
[08:52] <bullgard4> !grub | jam2011
[08:52] <dEhiN> or use a partition/disk manager/editor like partman or something...check out ubcd
[08:53] <Starminn> mouse: Well, if you want, you can just copy/paste the fonts from Windows to the Ubuntu fonts folder.
[08:53] <Starminn> mouse: I did that since I like the Monotype Corsiva font but ubuntu can't legally include it for free. ;)
[08:53] <evstevemd> pedhen: Yes, it is one of my folder being watch by RB
[08:53] <jam2011> dEhiN: I do not have dual boot
[08:53] <Starminn> bullgard4: Tried it too.
[08:54] <mouse> Starminn, Ugh law is always getting in the way of real progress.
[08:54] <dEhiN> Starminn: where is the ubuntu fonts folder?
[08:55] <Starminn> dEhiN: for your user ~/.fonts and for all users in /usr/share/fonts
[08:55] <dEhiN> thnx
[08:55] <bullgard4> Starminn: I have a friend in the local Ubuntu computer club had a similar problem as yours. He finally solved it by googling for his computer type and »sound« and »recording«.
[08:56] <Starminn> mouse: Well, if you want to, I just checked on my Windows XP dual boot and Widnows fonts are in C:\\WINDOWS\Fonts so you can copy all the fonts you want to /usr/share/fonts for all users or ~/.fonts for just yours.
[08:56] <bignono1> lenovo netbook dual winxp & ubuntu 10.04 , deleted winxp ,now can not run ubuntu ,please help
[08:56] <Starminn> mouse: IF what you want isn't included in the Canonical package, anyway. :)
[08:56] <bullgard4> Starminn: And of course »Ubuntu«.
[08:56] <TheAnyInbox> I am attempting to run update-grub from a livecd on a laptop to fix grub on the hd, but I cant seem to get it to worl. Any suggestions?
[08:57] <TheAnyInbox> *work
[08:57] <Starminn> bullgard4: :) Of course. Alright, duly noted. I'll see what I can find. Thank you for your time. (Is your "local Ubuntu club" LoCo or just non-official?)
[08:57] <evstevemd> bibnono: you lost MBR thing Let me help you with a link
[08:57] <jam2011> dEhiN: I have the installation CD. do you think I can manually install the boot loader from the installation CD
[08:57] <mouse> Starminn, Alright good idea.  Thank you.
[08:57] <bullgard4> Starminn: It is ubuntu-berlin
[08:57] <Starminn> bullgard4: Ah, alright.
[08:58] <dEhiN> jam2011: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[08:58] <dEhiN> which btw, bullgard4 helped you with when type ! + grub
[08:58] <jam2011> dEhiN: thanks
[08:58] <evstevemd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Recovering%20GRUB%20after%20reinstalling%20Windows
[08:59] <evstevemd> For all with Grub Issues
[08:59] <bignono1> evstevemd , thanks
[08:59] <doobien> should one remove most of the .config files out of the home directory before upgrading to natty?
[09:00] <Starminn> doobien: The people in the Natty support channel would probably know. #ubuntu+1 (read channel topics)
[09:00] <TheAnyInbox> uh, hello
[09:00] <TheAnyInbox> ?
[09:01] <gaelfx> under normal circumstances, how long would it take for dd to copy 300+gb of files?
[09:01] <dEhiN> depends on the mediums involved
[09:01] <trijntje> !hi | TheAnyInbox
[09:01] <gaelfx> dEhiN: all are sata II
[09:01] <dEhiN> should be 30-60min I think
[09:01] <dEhiN> rough guess though
[09:02] <Starminn> bullgard4: What is the relation between PulseAudio and ALSA Mixer? I don't quite understand how the two work together.  Is PulseAudio like the "server" for sound and ALSA for tweaking of the delivered sound, or no?
[09:02] <trijntje> gaelfx, I think it also depends on the bs?
[09:02] <dEhiN> depends also on if any other disk usage is happening
[09:02] <gaelfx> dEhiN: thanks, that's all I wanted :D
[09:02] <evstevemd> bignono1: Ure welcome
[09:02] <gaelfx> trijntje: 4096
[09:02] <dEhiN> trijntje: what's the bs?
[09:03] <gaelfx> dEhiN: I'm doing it on a liveusb between two hard drives hooked up to the same machine, so there shouldn't be other disk usage
[09:03] <jam2011> dEhiN: I was checking the version of grub on my machine and it says GNU GRUB 1.98-1ubuntu10.
[09:03] <gaelfx> bitsize
[09:03] <evstevemd> Anyone lucky in importing Podcasts to Rhythmbox without redownloading episodes?
[09:04] <TheAnyInbox> I have grub installed on my laptop along with ubuntu 10.04LTS but im not sure how to run update-grub from the livecd to fix the cfg so it will boot
[09:04] <trijntje> dEhiN, the bitsize, you can specify how big the 'chunks' must be that dd copies
[09:04] <dEhiN> gaelfx: thanks
[09:04] <TheAnyInbox> Any suggestions?
[09:05] <dEhiN> trijntje: thanks
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> anyone online?
[09:05] <dEhiN> yup
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka> cool
[09:05] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: I can think of 1,395 people off the top of my head.
[09:05] <Starminn> :)
[09:05] <dEhiN> TheAnyInbox: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[09:05] <bullgard4> Starminn: ALSA is the basic sound system in Linux. alsamixer allows to investigate and set up basic ALSA configuration. You may consider PulseAudio as a front-end to ALSA.
[09:05] <dEhiN> it should help you
[09:05] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  just switch from debian to ubuntu to double check if the gyache is actually working
[09:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Starminn:  nice one
[09:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> stupid question
[09:06] <Starminn> bullgard4: So ALSA==Linux and PulseAudio==GNOME enhancements
[09:06] <bignono1> thank you again evstevemd
[09:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> for some reason the file transfer  from yahoo users is not working on gyachi is not working  Not on 10 not on 11.04 (now i am on 11.04)
[09:06] <bullgard4> Starminn: In some respect, yes.
[09:07] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, you would probably want to chroot to the hard drives root directory.
[09:07] <Starminn> bullgard4: So that's *pretty much* a good way to think about it?
[09:08] <dEhiN> Gorilla_No_Baka: Ubuntu 11.04? then try #ubuntu+1
[09:08] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: Ah, thx
[09:08] <TheAnyInbox> How do i do that :X
[09:08] <bullgard4> Starminn: Yes. But like most other comparisons they are limited in their scope.
[09:08] <Gorilla_No_Baka> i have installed the gyachi from a the recomended ppa and all that.. I tried evertything... no firggin chance... i tried to change the servers as well no dice .. i  aliend some rmp pakages  all of them have the same problem .. can not receive files from yahoo users
[09:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> dEhiN:  Cheers
[09:09] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Well, I use Pidgin and have issues receiving files from Yahoo! users as well. I think it's just about the clients or maybe Yahoo! trying to have everybody use their client.
[09:09] <jam2011> dEhiN: Neither can I find menu.lst nor grub.cfg when I mount the hard drive from the install CD
[09:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  but i do not think it is a OS problem  i was more like curious to  see if anybody else has experienced this problem
[09:09] <Starminn> bullgard4: Of course, of course. How "rough" is that, though?
[09:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Starminn:  that`s actually true.. Pidgin used to be the s...t  not anymore..
[09:10] <dEhiN> jam2011: did you try the steps on the web page listed above?
[09:10] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Right, that's what I was saying. I think it's just the chat cleints, not-so-much the OSes or anything. Even on Windows if I used anything other than the Yahoo! client I couldn't really receive files from Yahoo! users
[09:10] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, something like sudo chroot /dev/sda2
[09:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> I used to love it because it gave me the opportunity to assign different size pictures for the users...
[09:11] <jam2011> dEhiN: I was trying the steps in the website. One of the steps was to "Go into boot/grub directory and check for the existence of the files menu.lst and grub.cfg.   "
[09:11] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: Thanks
[09:11] <TheAnyInbox> that works fine
[09:11] <dEhiN> jam2011: ok, and which /boot/grub dir did you try? the live cd or your installed partition?
[09:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Starminn:  funny thing is that uploading toward the yahoo users is working perfect.. is just receiving side that does not work
[09:12] <doobien> if sda2 is in fact your root directory :P
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> wait \
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> no
[09:12] <jam2011> dEhiN: installed partition
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> Its says its not a directory
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> :(
[09:12] <TheAnyInbox> What now
[09:12] <dEhiN> Gorilla_No_Baka, Starminn: sounds like a Yahoo IM protocol thing where the client being used for receiving is specified
[09:12] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Hmm... *shrug* Well I honestly don't know for sure, but I'd say it's just that people using the Yahoo! client may have the misfortune of being underneath a very "my way or the highway" company like Skype.
[09:13] <bullgard4> Starminn: alsamixer is a simple configuration tool for ALSA. --  PulseAudio is more than a simple "converter" (sound manager) to ALSA.
[09:13] <dEhiN> jam2011: remind me again - did you install grub before?
[09:14] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, maybe you have to mount it first - before you can chroot to it. mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /mnt
[09:14] <Starminn> bullgard4: So without Pulse there would be no sound?
[09:14] <Gorilla_No_Baka> pidgin was good.. Starminn  i would go into the purple folder and delete the stupid small png`s of the users pictures and replacem with big proper ones where you can actually see face`s features.. i loved it.. but the lack of the webcam made me move to gyachi
[09:14] <TheAnyInbox>  i have it mounted it n00bishly
[09:14] <TheAnyInbox> its in media
[09:14] <TheAnyInbox> D:
[09:14] <bullgard4> Starminn: This is true.
[09:14] <bullgard4> Starminn: No, wait!
[09:14] <jam2011> dEhiN: I had been using this version of ubuntu for some time now. I wanted to do a fresh install. So I formatted the whole disk from the installation CD..
[09:15] <Starminn> Gorilla_No_Baka: Lol.
[09:15] <bullgard4> Starminn: I misread. Without PulseAudio there will be sound, anyway.
[09:15] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, try sudo chroot /media/sda2
[09:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> that`s something on yahoo you can not do.. even if you upload a 5 mb picture it gets shrinked to few useless kb
[09:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[09:16] <dEhiN> bullgard4: so then is PulseAudio a front-end of sorts to alsa?
[09:16] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: I just went chroot /mnt
[09:16] <manish> kestrel hpc not showing hpc linpack
[09:16] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Yes, indeed.
[09:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> rights gents..that`s all i wanted to know then.. Looks like everyone has the same problem.. I thought it is only me
[09:17] <TheAnyInbox> doobien: Its mounted by UUID
[09:17] <TheAnyInbox> D;
[09:17] <bullgard4> dEhiN: Such front-ends are called "sound manager".
[09:17] <dEhiN> jam2011: and when you installed afresh, did you not install grub?
[09:17] <Gorilla_No_Baka> Then that`s me back on openbox  Debian .. :) Ubuntu was good in  the begining now is way to heavy for my eight years old laptop...
[09:17] <Starminn> bullgard4: What defines a "front-end" though? ALSA has a GUI, so....
[09:17] <dEhiN> bullgard4: I get it
[09:17] <Starminn> dEhiN: I'm slow. :D
[09:17] <manish> i need help for configuring node on kestrel hpc
[09:18] <jam2011> dEhiN: Thats when I got a fatal error. so I had to skip the grubn installation
[09:18] <soreau> ! grub2 | john2011
[09:18] <doobien> TheAnyInbox, oye vay, looks like it a job for google... there's bound to be something out there on howto
[09:19] <dEhiN> jam2011: then in that case, ignore steps in the web page instructions relating to previous grub installations...you don't have a previous install, so there would be no /boot/grub menu
[09:19] <manish> http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/configuration.html
[09:19] <manish> hpc problem with http://kestrelhpc.sourceforge.net/configuration.html
[09:20] <dEhiN> TheAnyInbox: so after chroot /mnt, did it work? if so, then cd into it and update-grub
[09:21] <bullgard4> Starminn: The best definition which I found so far, is: " http://www.dilettantesdictionary.org/index.php: "Sound Manager : A part of the Mac operating system that handles audio functionality such as input, mixing, and playback. Currently the Sound Manager supports only mono or stereo recording and playback at 16-bit, 48kHz resolution. Most Mac audio cards do not use Sound Manager for this...
[09:21] <bullgard4> ...reason, achieving both increased bit-depth and sampling resolution."
[09:21] <FloodBot2> bullgard4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <kmanzoor> i am using the default browser for kubuntu. i have difficulty reading this page http://www.wi-tribe.pk/customer-care/coverage-map/. any idea what is causing this ?
[09:22] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: have you tried other pages with maps? like maps.google.com?
[09:22] <xskydevilx> Can install GNOME 3 alongside the existing GNOME 2.32 inside of Natty?
[09:22] <Starminn> bullgard4: And that is the definition for ALSA or Pulse? (I know not "litrally" for those, but still)
[09:22] <dEhiN> Starminn: for Pulse
[09:22] <kmanzoor> dEhiN let me check other similar pages
[09:22] <Starminn> xskydevilx: Gnome3 kills Unity in Natty. But NAtty questions go to #ubuntu+1
[09:23] <bullgard4> Starminn: For PulsAudio.
[09:23] <dEhiN> and yes, it probably would be literally as the def is what a sound manager is...all oses use one
[09:23] <Starminn> bullgard4: Ah, alright.
[09:24] <dEhiN> o/t, but this is a great way to spend the night when you wanna stay up all night - help out on various irc channels
[09:25] <Starminn> dEhiN: I'm actually addicted top some extent I think.
[09:26] <Starminn> dEhiN: Right now I'm receiving help of course (with ALSA vs. Pulse) but usually I'm giving it. Last night I was up 3 hours later than I should have been. :(
[09:26] <dEhiN> Starminn: addicted to staying on irc channels and chatting/helping?
[09:26] <Starminn> dEhiN: Yep.
[09:27] <opiate> hey, what i  have a Problem with my souncard. When i turn up the volume it starts to make weird noises after the half volume. is this caused by my drivers or the soundcard itself?
[09:27] <dEhiN> Starminn: lol, I know what that's like - computer work definitely steals your time
[09:27] <Starminn> opiate: Did this happen with other OSes? It couldn't just be that it's too much output for your speakers, could it?
[09:28] <opiate> Stairman: No, it just happened since i have installed ubuntu. It happens with speakers and headphones, so this isnt the reason neither
[09:29] <Rafa652> I've got a small question... I'm trying out Unity in 11.04 and one of the icons in the launcher looks like it's glowing, and I can't figure out what that means.
[09:29] <dEhiN> Rafa652: 11.04 questions go to #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <Rafa652> Oh okay, thanks
[09:29] <doobien> opiate, try looking at your sound preferences, you probably have it at maxed out
[09:29] <Ishwon> hey guys, shipit is now closed?
[09:30] <pogztimz> can i still get free cds?
[09:30] <opiate> doobien: Where should i look? In the Alsamixer? Been there before but havent understood all those mixers.
[09:31] <Starminn> http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit
[09:31] <Ishwon> i doubt abt getting the free cds. does anybody can provide more info?
[09:31] <Starminn> lshown and pogztimz: The above link should be useful
[09:31] <doobien> opiate, click on the speaker on panel, it should say sound preferences - and slide the volume down and see if that helps
[09:31] <Starminn> lshwon: The LoCo teams may provide free ones?
[09:31] <Ishwon> i checked, but it says, shipit now closed.
[09:32] <Ishwon> i'm from mauritius, Starminn. we dnt hve locoteams here. and i'm in process of starting one.
[09:33] <Ishwon> that's why i was checking our shipit, if we could get some cds to present at a booth.
[09:33] <Ishwon> there'll be a linux workshop @ University of Mauritius, and we wanted to represent Ubuntu there.
[09:33] <Starminn> lshwon: Ah. Well you could see about getting them shipped to your LoCo team once it starts. I'd say they'd still favor the Teams. Other than that that link says you either download it or buy it from Canonical store
[09:34] <Ishwon> i checked abt starting a locoteam, but wiki pages kept me moving round n round. i created my team on launchpad; https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mu
[09:35] <Ishwon> more members will be joining in the coming days, we're a group of around 30 linux enthusiasts. most of who use ubuntu :)
[09:36] <optidude> hello all
[09:36] <pehden> Well i found the best Artical for X-tunnel over ssh
[09:36] <optidude> thanks for all your help
[09:36] <opiate> doobien: this is the same soundlevel as the normal , when i get over the half it makes weird noises. the funny thing is that the sounds are appearing as well when i turn down the speaker volumes and turn up the computer volume
[09:36] <pehden> http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[09:36] <optidude> got it up and running and fixed my wireless with win 7..... and understand what grub is now
[09:37] <optidude> niiiiccceee
[09:37] <ejv> why oh why did they decide to call it oneiric...
[09:37]  * ejv facepalms
[09:37] <optidude> have a great night all
[09:37] <loki_> hello
[09:37] <ejv> !hi | loki_
[09:38] <ejv> thought that used to work... doh
[09:38] <ejv> hi loki_ :p
[09:38] <loki_> lol
 Sorry, I don't know anything about hi
[09:38] <loki_> LMAO!!!
[09:39] <pehden> lol
[09:39] <loki_> okay to the question !! yay!! okay anyway.. i can't seem to install "electric" through the package manager
[09:39] <doobien> opiate, i cant say i have had that problem before - are the speakers plugged in all the way into the sound card possibly?
[09:39] <loki_> can someone hit me with a 2x4 or maybe lend some advice :p
[09:40] <akis24> ciao
[09:40] <ajin> hi, there! question: Do i need to uninstall firefox3.6 before i install firefox4.0 under ubuntu?
[09:40] <ejv> ajin: no
[09:41] <loki_> it gives evil "untrusted package error"
[09:41] <dfvgtrtrgr> hello,everyone
[09:41] <cacaiho> hello
[09:41] <dEhiN> opiate: what type of noise do you get?
[09:41] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: the google maps official site maps.google.com is running ok with rekonq
[09:41] <loki_> you can install 4.0 right off
[09:41] <loki_> using it right now
[09:41] <dfvgtrtrgr> anyone know mark shuttleworth
[09:41] <ejv> we drink scotch together on weekends
[09:42] <ajin> ejv: then, will i get two versions of firefox after the firefox4.0 installaiton?
[09:42] <loki_> @ajin it seems to have replaced it
[09:43] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: so maps.google.com runs ok, but the link you posted doesn't? if so, try using another browser...if that doesn't work, then it's probably an error with the page
[09:43] <ajin> ok, thank you guys
[09:43] <dfvgtrtrgr> ejv: i would like to know you
[09:43] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: there is no other internet browser installed
[09:44] <dfvgtrtrgr> ejv: i am quite a fan of ubuntu
[09:44] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: can you install another one just to try
[09:44] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: yes i can. there is a list of browsers in the Kpackagekit. which browser should i install ?
[09:45] <bazhang> !ot | dfvgtrtrgr
[09:45] <ejv> lol
[09:45] <loki_> internet explorer!! no i'm just kidding... firefox is pretty descent chrome works too.. but i prefer firefox
[09:45] <dEhiN> kmanzoor: it probably doesn't really matter as you are just testing to see if the page is broken or if rekonq has problems
[09:45] <loki_> there's a ton of them though
[09:46] <ejv> !natty
[09:47] <treebeen> neither is 10.10, nor 11.04 when it will be out, maybe LTS
[09:48] <dfvgtrtrgr> ubottu: ok
[09:48] <doobien> yea, but isn't natty being released in like a week or two?
[09:48] <DirtyDawg> 28th i think
[09:48] <loki_> will they remove the untrusted packages from the package list... so i don't get false hope?
[09:48] <kmanzoor> dEhiN: the flash packages that i am using wud be available for the other browser? i mean do i just have to install a browser or there are other packages that i wud be needing ?
[09:49] <pehden> doobien but it can change from beta
[09:50] <pehden> !gender | ubotto
[09:50] <pehden> !sweet | ubotto
[09:51] <treebeen> kmanzoor: they shud
[09:51] <bazhang> pehden, /msg ubottu
[09:51] <pehden> lol i was just messin lol
[09:51] <treebeen> bazhang: > /dev/null
[09:51] <bazhang> pehden, not the channel for that. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[09:53] <seven> hello .... can anyone help me ? my microphone it`s not working
[09:54] <bhavesh> the "keep aligned" is always enabled. How can I permanently disable it?
[09:54] <seven> i changed the mic ... problem still persists
[09:54] <bazhang> bhavesh, which version of ubuntu
[09:54] <bhavesh> 11.04
[09:54] <Seveas> seven, system -> preferences -> sound. Check your settings there.
[09:54] <bazhang> bhavesh, #ubuntu+1
[09:54] <bhavesh> ubutnu+1 is only for reporting bugs I guess..
[09:55] <bazhang> bhavesh, no its not
[09:55] <bhavesh> ok
[09:55] <quuxman> my system is hosed. I need some help to get it bootable again
[09:56] <kmanzoor> i am installing chromium
[09:56] <quuxman> Actually, it boots, and it starts almost everything in runlevel 2, but it doesn't show a login prompt
[09:56] <Seveas> quuxman, what does it show instead?
[09:56] <quuxman> something like "mount-all: something something error"
[09:57] <seven> Seveas,
[09:57] <seven> i dont have that menu
[09:57] <seven> i`m using kubuntu
[09:57] <quuxman> Seveas: it's not an informative error at all, not even sure if it's directly related
[09:57] <Seveas> quuxman, take a photo of it and post it somewhere, the exact error is probably useful to know
[09:57] <oshi74> what's the general opinion of Unity so far?
[09:57] <Seveas> seven, ah, try #kubuntu
[09:57] <bazhang> oshi74, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please dont poll here
[09:57] <Seveas> oshi74, general opinion is on leave, maybe ask general protection fault.
[09:58] <quuxman> Seveas: I googled it and didn't find anything relevant
[09:58] <seven> thx
[09:58] <quuxman> isn't there a log file I can investigate? I'm using the system now thanks to a Debian install drive
[09:58] <Seveas> quuxman, ok, and you get no other messages? Also not on other terminals?
[09:58] <bhavesh> wow no one ever replies on ubuntu+1
[09:58] <quuxman> Seveas: yes
[09:58] <frybye> bhavesh: not 101% true pal.. or..?
[09:58] <dEhiN> ok all I'm off...ciao
[09:58] <kmanzoor> ciao
[09:59] <bhavesh> lol sometimes.
[09:59] <Seveas> quuxman, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (if X actually tried to start), /var/log/apt/history.log (to see if you lost some packages)
[09:59] <quuxman> Seveas: X did not try to start. I don't have gdm start at boot
[10:00] <Seveas> ah
[10:02] <quuxman> this may be relevant: I have one non-configured package: procps
[10:03] <quuxman> when I try to configure it, I get the error: start: unable to connect to upstart: failed to connect to socket ....
[10:03] <Seveas> quuxman, that could be relevant indeed. edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/procps.postinst so it won't trhy to connect to upstart, then configure it
[10:04] <user82> hi. every time i update my system i get a dpkg error about fglrx(ati driver). can i somehow "clean" it from the todo list?
[10:04] <Seveas> also run dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -F install
[10:04] <Seveas> user82, sudo dpkg -P fglrx (this will completely wipe it from your system)
[10:04] <user82> okay..then re-install
[10:04] <user82> will give it a try
[10:05] <quuxman> Seveas: I don't see anything about upstart in the script
[10:05] <puneet> hello
[10:06] <Seveas> quuxman, anything with init or telinit is related
[10:06] <Seveas> quuxman, it's actually in preinst, where it calls the initscript
[10:07] <Seveas> quuxman, it does so in postinst to, via invoke-rc.d
[10:07] <Seveas> just comment those 2 out, you're going to reboot anyway :)
[10:10] <Seveas> quuxman, gotta go now, good luck!
[10:10] <Vorenii> Hi everyone, i just made a stupid mistake, and now i dont know howto fix it.
[10:11] <Vorenii> I was installing wine, when I restarted my computer. Now i cant use ubuntu software centre to install anything.
[10:11] <Vorenii> anyone have an idea on howto fix that?
[10:12] <quuxman> Seveas: I had to remove the line: start procps
[10:13] <evelyette> hi, I can now sucessfully chroot to my directory, but the problem is that chroot doesn't have any information about my users ... so it's printing 1000:1000 uid and git numbers instead of actually a username ... what I need to copy over to the chroot to make those names visible?
[10:14] <Vorenii> Anyone know howto fix my problem, please.
[10:14] <Vorenii> I was installing wine, when I restarted my computer. Now i cant use ubuntu software centre to install anything. Because its broken.
[10:16] <crackguy> how do i kill ntfs-3g? apparently, it's busy holding a mounted device which i wish to umount
[10:17] <snikker> hi, if i run sfdisk on my laptop i've got this warning: "Warning: extended partition does not start at a cylinder boundary.
[10:17] <snikker> DOS and Linux will interpret the contents differently." i've never modified the partitions.
[10:18] <doobien> crackguy, umount /mnt/windows
[10:19] <quuxman> so the error I get when I boot:
[10:19] <quuxman> init: mounted-dev main process (324) terminated with status 1
[10:19] <Vorenii> I was installing wine, when I restarted my computer. Now i cant use ubuntu software centre to install anything. Because its broken.
[10:19] <quuxman> Event: mount-all failed
[10:19] <Vorenii> someone please
[10:20] <snikker> Vorenii: try to remove wine
[10:20] <quuxman> pretty much all I see. When I hit ctrl+alt+del, I see it stopping several services, so it's sucessfully switched to runlevel 2, but I don't see a login prompt
[10:20] <Vorenii> snikker: I tried, but i cant remove it, and i cant install any other program
[10:20] <doobien> crackguy, maybe sudo umount /mnt/windows
[10:20] <Vorenii> it says my aptdeamon is having errors
[10:21] <quuxman> so my machine is pretty worthless. Probably should just reinstall, but that's a pain
[10:22] <cryptk> quuxman, I came in late, can you give a brief rundown of the issue?
[10:22] <zamba> how can i completely disable host key checking when connecting to a host?
[10:22] <quuxman> I installed some packages, and when I rebooted, I no longer get a login prompt
[10:22] <quuxman> I see that error instead. Note that I don't have X11 or gdm start on boot
[10:22] <zamba> i'm connecting to an ip address that always changes the host behind
[10:22] <zamba> and i'm doing this non-interactively
[10:23] <zamba> so i have to skip the "remote host identification has changed" thingy
[10:23] <cryptk> quuxman, what is the error though?
[10:23] <quuxman> cryptk: init: mounted-dev main process (324) terminated with status 1
[10:23] <quuxman> cryptk: Event: mount-all failed
[10:24] <Vorenii> I fixed my error with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:24] <quuxman> I must admit, that I typed "Yes, do as I say!" when apt prompted, which I know is a really bad idea. The last time I did that was many years ago and it caused a similarly terrible situation
[10:25] <cryptk> quuxman, have you tried adding --verbose to the kernel command line in grub before you boot?
[10:25] <quuxman> but I figured it couldn't be too serious, because I had just asked to install mysql-server, so I don't understand how that broke my entire system
[10:25] <cryptk> to see if you can get further clues
[10:25] <quuxman> cryptk: yeah, and it doesn't show any other errors
[10:25] <JamesMR> Hi, I'm getting errors with dpkg when trying to use apt, anyone able to help me? http://pastebin.com/5e1y9fBp
[10:25] <cryptk> or booting into recovery mode and seeing if you can resolve any kind of broken packages
[10:25] <quuxman> cryptk: well, I mean I just removed "quiet". I have not actually tried --verbose
[10:26] <HoboSteau-> hey my cursor dissapeared and i dont know how to get it back
[10:26] <cryptk> removing quiet and --verbose are definitely different
[10:26] <quuxman> cryptk: I'm chrooted in to the system now. procps was failing to configure because it couldn't connect to upstart, but I commented that out, and now all packages are fine
[10:27] <quuxman> cryptk: I will reboot and try --verbose. thanks for the tip
[10:27] <gaelfx> so I started running dd about 2 hours ago and it still isn't finished, I don't suppose there's a way to see progress or anything like that, is there?
[10:27] <cryptk> JamesMR, try this... look in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[10:27] <jrib> gaelfx: look at the file size of the output file?
[10:28] <cryptk> is there an install-info file in there?
[10:28] <resmo> hi
[10:28] <gaelfx> jrib problem is I'm copying a whole partition, and I tried to open the one it's writing to, but nothing happened
[10:28] <phonex01> hi guys im looking for good IDE for c programming unuder linux ?
[10:28] <cryptk> gaelfx, there is definitely a way to get progress
[10:29] <hanyu> ..
[10:29] <cryptk> do you have another command line on the system available?
[10:29] <cryptk> if so `ps -ef | grep dd` to get dd's PID
[10:29] <JamesMR> cryptk: there's an install-info.list (.mdsums, .postinst, .triggers)
[10:29] <HoboSteau-> my cursor decided to disappear does anyone know how to get it back?
[10:29] <cryptk> then `kill -USR1 ####` with the #### being dd's PID
[10:29] <cryptk> check the output of dd --help
[10:30] <resmo> anyone experiencing problems in10.04 with networkmanager and dhcp since the last update? I am not able to get an IP using networkmanager, using dhclient on cli works fine.
[10:30] <cryptk> it explains that sending a USR1 signal to a running dd process makes it display it's stats thus far... the stats will be displayed on the command line where the dd is running, not the one you run the kill from
[10:30] <cryptk> JamesMR, can you cat that install-info.list file?
[10:30] <cryptk> and is it a list of installed files?
[10:31] <JamesMR> cryptk: http://pastebin.ca/2047393
[10:31] <cryptk> gaelfx, did that work for you?
[10:32] <merlo> hello... I broke my HD. I was moving my laptop and it felt down. Ubuntu won't run anymore so i tried reinstalling it. At first the system could run again but then I installed a bunch of updates and things screwup again. So i assume there is a part of my disk that cannot be read anymore. So my question: is it possibile to format my disk in order to avoid the use of its broken part? THX
[10:32] <cryptk> JamesMR, what locale is your system set to? is it supposed to be russian?
[10:32] <JamesMR> cryptk: It's supposed to be British English
[10:32] <HoboSteau-> please anyone, do you know how to get a cursor back
[10:32] <cryptk> gotcha, one moment
[10:33] <cryptk> HoboSteau-, my GUI experience is limited...
[10:33] <HoboSteau-> i avoid it when possible :p
[10:34] <cryptk> JamesMR, are the rest of the .list files in there in brittish english?
[10:34] <buff27> merlo, you might need to replace it, best to test it as a 2nd drive in another PC
[10:35] <JamesMR> cryptk: by the looks of it, no
[10:36] <cryptk> ok, move that install-info.list file to somewhere else, such as your home folder
[10:36] <cryptk> then `apt-get install install-info --reinstall`
[10:36] <queva> Hi. Something is a bit messed up with the encoding on a ubuntu-server of mine. When I ssh from another ubuntu server, and write "äåö", strange things happen. It should be default-installations. Any pointers?
[10:36] <merlo> buff27, i did, it can be accessed. only some parts of the disk are broken in fact when i try to read files located on those parts i get a I/O error. Ubuntu cannot start because some of the files it loads at start up are located on the unaccesbile part. I was wondering if there is a way to tell the system not to write on broken sectors
[10:37] <JamesMR> cryptk: Thanks, you're a star!
[10:37] <cryptk> merlo, sounds like you had a head collision... that drive is unfortunately toast
[10:38] <buff27> merlo, I'm not sure on that, maybe a manufactures test tool, but I would recommend replacing it
[10:38] <cryptk> JamesMR, all I ask in return... I am starting a blog, it will be ramblings of an Ubuntu administrator... give me a couple of topics you would like me to write about
[10:38] <merlo> cryptk, buff27: thx for your advices
[10:39] <queva> i'm gonna localepurge it a bit
[10:39] <cryptk> I mean, you could try using smartmontools to mark bad sectors, but the problem with head collisions is that the head itself is likely damaged as well, which basically means that drive is a ticking time bomb until total failure
[10:39] <JamesMR> cryptk: the most common and easy to fix problem that users come to you with
[10:39] <cryptk> Yeah, I am going to start with those, lol
[10:39] <JamesMR> :P
[10:40] <JamesMR> not sure I can come up with anything much better
[10:40] <cryptk> but the issue is what I typically administer is the worlds largest virtualization cluster (I think it is the worlds largest, if it isn't then it is pretty friggin close)
[10:40] <gaelfx> cryptk: sorry, hang on, let me try
[10:40] <cryptk> so end user issues typically come from this channel or #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <knoppies> cryptk, who owns the virtualization cluster? Google? As for ideas, Im fiddling with multi-touch on the new synaptic touchpads. Ive given up trying to fix it and Im just using emulation. I can't tell if they have fixed the issue (by adding driver support for the new touchpads) I cant even seem to find the bug report on launchpad anymore (I know its there somewhere, I just don't know what its called)
[10:42] <cryptk> knoppies, Rackspace
[10:43] <bullgard4> My Gajim 0.13.4 forgets its password although I asserted "Keep in mind password". I deleted Gajim's configuration file and confgured Gajim anew. But things did not change. In seahorse > "Passwords and Encryption" > Passwords > Passwords:login there is no Gajim entry. How can I enter here the Gajim password?
[10:43] <cryptk> knoppies, unfortunately I can only write articles on how to fix things that I have hardware to test on... I don't have anything with a synaptic touchpad on it
[10:43] <feng> how to logout with command line
[10:43] <knoppies> cryptk, I understand, thanks anyway.
[10:43] <cryptk> uhm... type logout
[10:43] <feng> how to logout my gnome using a command
[10:44] <cryptk> init 2
[10:44] <cryptk> sudo init 2
[10:44] <feng> cryptk: doesn't work
[10:44] <feng> cryptk: bash: logout: not login shell: use 'exit'
[10:45] <cryptk> ahh, didn't quite understand what you were going for
[10:45] <cryptk> yeah, exit will do that
[10:45] <feng> cryptk: I want to logout my X and login again
[10:45] <cryptk> I thought you meant completely exit the GUI on your system and drop to a command line
[10:45] <cryptk> gimmie a moment and I will get you something
[10:45] <gaelfx> cryptk: ok, I'm the kid with the dd problem, and thanks much that your advice worked, however, I have a followup question: if I am copying multiple files, will it only show the progress for the current file, or does it display progress for the whole copy?
[10:46] <cryptk> gaelfx, if you are using dd, then it treats the whole partition as one "big file"
[10:46] <cryptk> dd doesn't care about files, it copies the 1's and 0's so to speak
[10:46] <Haitham> Hello
[10:46] <cryptk> chances are for what you are doing, rsync would have been a better option
[10:47] <cryptk> `rsync -a --progress /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[10:47] <cryptk> feng, can you tell me your exact scenario?
[10:47] <Haitham> I'm having a problem with my Laptop's Keyboard - It's not functioning during Ubuntu installation, try-out or in any Linux distru. for that matter (Tried on Knoppix (Live CD)).
[10:48] <above_the_clouds> Hi. I am having trouble with Evince crashing when I open a PostScript file.  If I issue, from the command line, something like "evince some_file.ps", Evinces starts up and then crashes with the error "Segmentation Fault".
[10:48] <cryptk> like X has hung and you would like to use a different tty to restart it back to the gdm login prompt?
[10:48] <gaelfx> cryptk: so I should probably be pretty worried about the fact that it says only 5.1GB have been copied in about two and a half hours?
[10:48] <researcher123> how can I extract and save images from .pdf file?
[10:48] <feng> cryptk: i am using ubuntu gnome, my two status bars are frozen.
[10:48] <bullgard4> feng: '~$ sudo service gdm stop
[10:48] <Haitham> Touch Pad & laptop's keys aren't working in any Linux distrubtion, any suggestions?
[10:48] <cryptk> yep
[10:48] <cryptk> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:48] <feng> cryptk: i think that if I logout and login again my solve the problem.
[10:48] <ajin> gdm(gnome display manager):-D
[10:49] <cryptk> that will show you a command line
[10:49] <cryptk> then service gdm stop
[10:49] <cryptk> then service gdm start
[10:49] <cryptk> or just service gdm restart will likely work as well
[10:49] <feng> cryptk: ok, i am trying
[10:49] <ajin> feng: you might dig deeper if you want
[10:49] <cryptk> you /may/ need to Ctrl+Alt+F6 after to get back to where X is running at
[10:49] <researcher123> is it possible to extract images from  .pdf file?