[03:07] <lazylinux> USB and Gutsy I am sure you are sick of hearing it. Has there ever been a solution. lost my usb mounting avail. yesterday. been at launchpad for 7 hours now, tried everything and no luck. plz help
[03:07] <c0mp13371331337> hipitihop: Authentication Failure, eh?  I work in tech support, and my first response to authentication failure is: "Do you have caps lock or num lock on, sir?" ;-)
[03:07] <Xaosratt> I've just gotten dual monitors to work. Using twinview. How do I make everything "edge aware"? So that a maximized window only fills one screen? Suse somehow did this on its own.
[03:07] <bruenig> tech support, eww
[03:07] <le_N> do someone know exactly which packages involved with playing realvideo 4 files
[03:08] <le_N> ?
[03:08] <acalbaza> hi, first ubuntu install here and things arent going well.... i get a blank screen after selecting to install from the initial prompt. any hints?
[03:08] <AcEg33k> can anyone help me out with ettercap ? i keep reciving messege invalid network interfacem what do i have to do ?
[03:08] <acalbaza> installing gusty amd64 iso
[03:08] <Ta__> 32 is alway's good when your not sure.
[03:09] <logon> sethk: did you want to look at the .conf???
[03:09] <Tidus> Xaosratt, don't use twinview
[03:09] <bruenig> 64 wouldn't cause a blank screen
[03:09] <Tidus> use standard xinerama
[03:09] <sethk> logon, yes
[03:09] <hipitihop> c0mp13371331337, hehe.. ok thanks for your time anyway
[03:09] <Xaosratt> Tidus: Just use plain Xinerama?
[03:09] <acalbaza> bruenig : that's what i was thinking
[03:10] <vladc> Hi, I tried booting a 500Mhz Blue PPC IMac using Gutsy desktop, but the computer froze up hard (had to unplug to thaw) when trying to load the kernel. The MD5sums of the files are all OK. Any ideas?
[03:10] <Xaosratt> ok
[03:10] <c0mp13371331337> hipitihop:  No problem, sorry I couldn't help.
[03:10] <acalbaza> kernel loads... then blank screen, no signal from monitor, and to keyboard... odd
[03:10] <logon> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43075/ hows that???
[03:10] <sethk> logon, looking ...
[03:10] <justin420> can someone please tell me why my external hard drive is not mounted automatically but when i do a sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart then it loads perfectly? i have another external hard drive that ALWAYS automatically loads, both drives are firewire. anybody ever experience this?
[03:11] <smmagic> vladc: 500mhz processor?
[03:11] <vladc> smmagic: yes
[03:11] <smmagic> You could try xubuntu then
[03:11] <smmagic> MIght be too much for processor
[03:11] <TaYvwiya> my thoughts xactly! Xubuntu.
[03:11] <bruenig> if you are going for low resource, you want to aim for a zenwalk or something, not xubuntu
[03:12] <bruenig> xubuntu is still heavy
[03:12] <vladc> smmagic: I'll try, but it doesn't even get to the desktop. The kernel won't load.
[03:12] <Tidus> Xaosratt, yep.  just standard xinerama
[03:12] <smmagic> Burn a Xubuntu disc at the lowest speed
[03:13] <Xaosratt> Tidus: Alright, other than the not-as-easy setup, will I loose much functionality?
[03:13] <Tidus> Xaosratt, shouldn't lose any
[03:13] <lazylinux> justin420, problem with no usb (anything) mounting, might  /etc/init.d/dbus force-reload help me?
[03:13] <vladc> smmagic: I'll try burning Xubuntu at the lowest speed.
[03:14] <TaYvwiya> %C2Trying this
[03:14] <smmagic> Like I just said
[03:14] <lazylinux> reloaded, brb reboot
[03:14] <Altar_> hey everyone, is there a certain program i can use to make music cd's that come default on ubuntu or should i install a certain program from the synaptic?
[03:14] <smmagic> And if you are using a download accelerator, try without that
[03:15] <vladc> Altar_: My favorite is K3b http://k3b.plainblack.com/
[03:15] <Altar_> is it in the synaptic?
[03:15] <Falstius> Altar_: serpentine works fine.
[03:16] <Tidus> Altar_, k3b is in the repos
[03:16] <vladc> smmagic: No download accelerator. The CD MD5sum were ok, and so were the individual files in the CD.
[03:16] <aeGIs> I have a question...  Whenever I plug in my Pocket PC (hx2495) into the USB on my laptop running 7.10, the wireless network icon changes from the bars to the swirling icon...  I lose my network connection and it creates a LAN connection to my Pocket PC.  The swirling icon changes to a computer eventually.  Any thoughts?
[03:16] <sethk> logon, It's loaded indirectly, so you can't take it out directly.  Was this configuration file created by the ubuntu installer?
[03:16] <blahblahx> which file do i change to modify the menu icon? i know its start-here.png, but that comes in many sizes, so which size do i modify?
[03:16] <smmagic> Ergh, I hate bigpond
[03:17] <logon> sethk: yep, no changes by me so far
[03:17] <aeGIs> btw, I've scoured the forums for three days without success on this...  it seems other people are connecting their pocket pc's fine.
[03:17] <thatguy452> how do you install bum?
[03:17] <solaris> My top program shows the incorrect memory, is this a linux bug?
[03:17] <vladc> Altar_: Yes, K3b is in synaptic, but you can also use serpentine (which I think is installed by default).
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> !mp3
[03:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <logon> sethk: i have done nothing with the video yet
[03:18] <aeGIs> solaris: Mine is showing the proper memory in top
[03:18] <lactive> hi
[03:18] <justin420> i have 2 firewire drives, one automatically boots up at startup but the other one doesnt. but if i do a sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart both drives show up just fine. i dont get why this is happening. i am running gutsy with gnome.
[03:18] <lactive> anyone speaks portuguese here?
[03:18] <logon> sethk: should I install something???
[03:18] <lactive> ok
[03:18] <aeGIs> !pocketpc
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pocketpc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <thatguy452> how is bum installed?
[03:18] <Oracle> anyone know how to uninstall ubuntu and remove it from the hard drive
[03:18] <sethk> logon, I would copy the file, and then run the X reconfiguration, see if it finds a simpler and better configuration.  It may not help at all, but it may.  The command to do it is in the xorg.conf:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:19] <Thecks> theguy452: The mood I'm in, you don't want me to answer that question. :)
[03:19] <solaris> Well, my top says that all my memory is being used, but my system monitor in Gnome says I am using only 70% of it
[03:19] <aeGIs> Oracle: Why not format the partition?
[03:19] <sethk> logon, you can also try it without the -phigh command.
[03:19] <Oracle> i misread the prompt, i took up a good 95% of my main partition, and now i need it back
[03:19] <Oracle> i need ot kepe the data on it
[03:19] <Oracle> no place to back it up
[03:19] <lactive> i'm installing ubuntu over network . I want to do a local network install. So i fire up alternative cd , pxe's tftps etc.. I have an apache with the alternative cd , but when i choose the mirror it fail's
[03:19] <sethk> solaris, memory isn't reclaimed by the kernel until it's needed.  So memory that is actually available may show up as used.
[03:19] <lactive> what could  be wrong?
[03:19] <Oracle> so, what options do i have
[03:19] <Altar_> thanks guys!
[03:20] <thatguy452> how can i install boot up manager?
[03:20] <sethk> lactive, problem at that mirror?  Did you try a different mirror to see what happens?
[03:20] <solaris> oh
[03:20] <aeGIs> thatguy452: do a serach for grub
[03:20] <Altar_> does serpentine burns work on cd players (non mp3, such as a stock car cd player)
[03:20] <solaris> thanks lactive
[03:20] <sethk> thatguy452, grub-install, or using the grub utility
[03:21] <logon> sethk: its asking for the server driver???
[03:21] <aeGIs> thatguy: This should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:21] <lactive> i have a local mirror , it´s on localhost/html/ubuntu. thats where the alternative cd is
[03:21] <sethk> logon, it doesn't have a default?    If there isn't a default, then control-c it.
[03:22] <logon> sethk: vesa???
[03:22] <sethk> lactive, oh, sorry, I missed that.  try using the IP instead of the name
[03:22] <sethk> logon, that should be ok
[03:22] <Oracle> ok, did anyone have a solution
[03:22] <lactive> i´ve alredy did that
[03:22] <bloony> how do I search for a file in all folders in terminal?
[03:22] <Oracle> i had to take care of an issue
[03:22] <Oracle> i need to know how to remove ubuntu and the slice of memory it occupies
[03:22] <logon> sethk: ok, do I need to reboot???
[03:22] <aeGIs> thatguy452: This should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:23] <bruenig> if your slocate database is up to date bloony, you can do locate whatever
[03:23] <Oracle> and return it to the state it was in before the install
[03:23] <Oracle> and im kind of short on time
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> the free format instructions for mp3 support doesn't work - apps > add/remove > all available > ubuntu restricted formats : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <Oracle> does ANYONE know how ot do this
[03:23] <bloony> bruenig: ok.. but isnt there a command that search the drives aswell?
[03:23] <mistone> Oracle: lmao what are you talking about
[03:23] <Oracle> or if its possible?
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> what's the command line instruction for getting this? command line is always best...
[03:23] <Oracle> ok i need to remove ubunto from my hard drive
[03:23] <bruenig> CaptainMorgan, huh
[03:23] <Oracle> thats basically it
[03:23] <jmorse30> hey guys I have a hp VGA webcam and I cannot find drivers for it what channel would I need to go to to get help
[03:23] <Oracle> and i cant format
[03:23] <mistone> Oracle: format the drive
[03:24] <mistone> lol
[03:24] <sethk> logon, strictly speaking, no, but do it anyway so we know exactly where we are.
[03:24] <Oracle> i dont have a place to back up the data that i need to keep
[03:24] <bruenig> Oracle, removing an operating system is pointless, just install something over it
[03:24] <Oracle> i cant, i want to use it in windows again
[03:24] <aeGIs> Oracle: I do not know how to do what you're asking...  You want to remove ubuntu but keep the partition.  You're going to eventually want to repartition anyway if you made them the wrong sizes.
[03:24] <lazylinux> still no luck on getting usb to work. I searched my var for ¨usb¨ any sugg. of where I should look? fdi-cache cannot be opened, but hald seems to be the target on most bug reports. would it kill me to delete it?
[03:24] <mistone> Oracle: um, find a place to back up the data
[03:24] <Oracle> therein lies the problem
[03:24] <Oracle> there is no place
[03:24] <lactive> i'm installing ubuntu over network . I want to do a local network install. So i fire up alternative cd , pxe's tftps etc.. I have an apache with the alternative cd , but when i choose the mirror it fail's
[03:24] <Caram> How big lies your hard drive?
[03:24] <mistone> find someting
[03:24] <lactive> i have a local mirror , it´s on localhost/html/ubuntu. thats where the alternative cd is
[03:25] <Oracle> about 50 gigs of data i need to keep
[03:25] <Caram> I swear, I didn't mean to say lies
[03:25] <bruenig> Oracle, if you at the very least have to keep a /boot partition or then you won't be able to boot to any OS
[03:25] <Caram> I was reading your post...
[03:25] <Caram> :P
[03:25] <bruenig> s/if//
[03:25] <Oracle> i have windows on a separate hard drive
[03:25] <travm> would anyone be able to help me try to rescue my windows install?  I installed ubuntu and it doesnt boot anymore
[03:25] <Caram> Save it over the network?
[03:25] <Oracle> i need ubuntu off of the one its on
[03:25] <aeGIs> travm: did you try installing grub?
[03:25] <bruenig> Oracle, format the ubuntu partition
[03:25] <travm> i have installed grub
[03:25] <Oracle> I CANT!
[03:26] <travm> I tried the super grub disk, It hangs trying to boot windows
[03:26] <bruenig> Oracle, I don't understand the problem
[03:26] <mistone> Oracle: just copy the data over
[03:26] <aeGIs> bruenig: he can't because he wants to keep that data for some reason
[03:26] <bruenig> Oracle, delete the files you don't want then
[03:26] <bruenig> not rocket science
[03:26] <bruenig> I don't need /usr, I delete /usr
[03:26] <bruenig> and so forth
[03:26] <mistone> bruenig: no, thats retarded lol
[03:26] <Oracle> the problem is ubuntu makes windows not recognise the 160 gigs it horded
[03:26] <bruenig> it isn't retarded, it will go quite fast
[03:26] <Oracle> and i cant find the way ot make it unhorde the data
[03:27] <bruenig> just move all of your data to /, then remove all the other directories under /
[03:27] <bruenig> done
[03:27] <mistone> Oracle: then thats the issue stop tripping
[03:27] <mistone> lol
[03:27] <Ebiggs> Oracle: Can you install the EXT3 windows driver?
[03:27] <mistone> just say that ubuntu made it so you can't boot into windows instead of saying you want to delete it :P
[03:27] <Oracle> but thats not the problem
[03:27] <Oracle> why would i say that
[03:27] <bruenig> ubuntu didn't make windows not recognize the 160 gigs
[03:27] <bruenig> windows doesn't have ext3 filesystem drivers
[03:27] <bruenig> install them
[03:28] <bruenig> fs-driver.org
[03:28] <bloony> How do I search the filesystem for a file?
[03:28] <Oracle> so ubuntu will see the NTFS part windows sees as part of the ext3?
[03:28] <bruenig> Oracle, rephrase
[03:28] <Selanit> Question: i've got a friend who is completely blind.  He's dependant on a screen reader (JAWS) to operate his computer.  He's interested in trying out Linux.  I've done some research and found a few things we might try, but I'd like to pose it to the hive mind.  Suggestions?
[03:28] <bruenig> bloony, find / -iname "whatever"
[03:28] <bloony> k
[03:28] <Oracle> ubuntu sees it all as one part. windows only sees 50 gigs of it
[03:28] <Oracle> i need to make windows see the rest
[03:29] <Oracle> and i cant reformat
[03:29] <Caram> So your idea
[03:29] <Caram> is to back up the data
[03:29] <Some_Person> 7.10 is a NIGHTMARE to install!
[03:29] <Caram> and then what??
[03:29] <lactive> estou a tentar instalar o ubuntu por rede e tenho o cd alternativo no apache os computadores arrancaram por pxe  e agora tenho que inserir o mirror manualmente, naoi ta a funcionar
[03:29] <bruenig> Oracle, install the driver for the love of allah zeus jesus (fs-driver.org)
[03:29] <Oracle> does that explain the issue to you?
[03:29] <Oracle> what does this do for me?
[03:29] <bruenig> Oracle, do you know what a driver is?
[03:29] <Oracle> yes
[03:29] <Some_Person> I am VERY displeased with the installers!
[03:29] <bruenig> Oracle, ok it does what drivers do
[03:29] <jason_> any linux audio gurus here?
[03:29] <Oracle> and this helps me how?
[03:30] <bruenig> !ot | Some_Person
[03:30] <ubotu> Some_Person: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:30] <aeGIs> Oracle: it sounds like you need to work on finding a way to backup that data and then reformat that entire drive in the long term.
[03:30] <bruenig> Oracle, you know how when you installed your printer driver, you could use the printer
[03:30] <Oracle> yeah
[03:30] <aeGIs> anything else is going to be a short term fix
[03:30] <bruenig> Oracle, ok now apply that concept to the ext3 filesystem
[03:30] <Some_Person> This is not random chatter or about the devel version!
[03:30] <prak> !sdcc
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdcc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <prak> !launchpad
[03:30] <bruenig> Oracle, when you install the ext3 filesystem driver, you can use .....
[03:30] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:31] <bruenig> Some_Person, this is the support room, if you need support, ask for it, if you want to chat about ubuntu being awful, that is not a support question
[03:31] <Oracle> im pretty sure its ntfs
[03:31] <Oracle> yeah its ntfs
[03:31] <bruenig> Oracle, ubuntu is not on a ntfs drive
[03:31] <Oracle> i just need to make windows see it again
[03:31] <Oracle> i dont think it ever installed
[03:31] <jmorse30> I have a quesiton when someone is ready
[03:31] <Oracle> it just took its slot on the ntfs drive
[03:31] <world_citizen> i want to install nvu in ubuntu 7.10. Please help
[03:31] <Some_Person> Ubuntu is good. Unfortunately, Ubuntu 7.10's installation process is horrible. I almost destroyed my HD by trying.
[03:31] <geldo> tem alguem ai?
[03:31] <lazylinux> does anyone here have gutsy and USB detection working fine for cameras and sticks?
[03:31] <{nathan}> world_citizen, run "sudo apt-get install nvu"
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> !kompozer | world_citizen
[03:31] <ubotu> world_citizen: kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, while for older versions you can add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu {edgy,feisty} universe »  (pick your release and list it without brackets)
[03:31] <marko-_-> world_citizen, try kompozer it's the same as nvu but not so bugged
[03:32] <bruenig> Oracle, ubuntu is not on ntfs, this we know for sure. The default filesystem that the installer uses is ext3, unless you changed that, ubuntu is installed on an ext3 partition
[03:32] <Some_Person> I never had this problem with 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, or 7.04!
[03:32] <{nathan}> world_citizen, or that.
[03:32] <lazylinux> or is the bottom line that I am going to have to find a feisty disc?
[03:32] <bruenig> Oracle, therefore, if you install ext3 drivers in windows, ...
[03:32] <Oracle> allow me to illustrate this is the drive [                           ] and this is the part of the partition that windows sees, ubuntu sees all of it [   |            ]
[03:32] <Oracle> i need to make windows see from | to ] too
[03:32] <lactive> i have a local mirror , it´s on localhost/html/ubuntu. thats where the alternative cd is
[03:32] <lactive> estou a tentar instalar o ubuntu por rede e tenho o cd alternativo no apache os computadores arrancaram por pxe  e agora tenho que inserir o mirror manualmente, naoi ta a funcionar
[03:32] <bruenig> Some_Person, please take it to off topic or ask a support question so we can support you
[03:32] <lactive> i'm installing ubuntu over network . I want to do a local network install. So i fire up alternative cd , pxe's tftps etc.. I have an apache with the alternative cd , but when i choose the mirror it fail's
[03:32] <world_citizen> wow! great respone
[03:32] <travm> Oracle, Ubuntu can see everything because it has the NTFS drivers installed on it
[03:32] <world_citizen> thanks every one
[03:32] <Oracle> ok
[03:32] <Oracle> but it sees it all as one partition
[03:33] <travm> just install the ext3 drivers in windows and you will see everything
[03:33] <Oracle> one ntfs partition
[03:33] <travm> Yeah, linux is like that
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> Oracle: http://fs-driver.org/
[03:33] <travm> where does it say that?
[03:33] <Oracle> will windows treat it all like one drive?
[03:33] <bruenig> tonyyarusso, 3rd link is a charm?
[03:33] <Oracle> one ntfs drive
[03:33] <travm> no
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: clearly :)
[03:33] <bruenig> Oracle, it will treat the partitions separately
[03:33] <Oracle> i need it as one
[03:33] <bruenig> Oracle, if there are partitions
[03:33] <world_citizen> could you please give feed back about
[03:33] <world_citizen> Quanta Plus
[03:33] <Oracle> ubuntu sees it as one big ntfs drive
[03:33] <GhostFiend> how can I do a fresh install from a on hard drive iso image to the same drive
[03:34] <travm> Oracle, linux has the ability to "mount" partitions, wherever you want
[03:34] <Oracle> windows sees it as one little ntfs drive
[03:34] <bruenig> Oracle, ubuntu is not on an ntfs drive, this has been explained
[03:34] <travm> Oracle, open gparted
[03:34] <Oracle> i know
[03:34] <Oracle> its not installed
[03:34] <travm> install it
[03:34] <Caram> >_<
[03:34] <bruenig> Oracle, so ubuntu doesn't see itself as being on an ntfs drive
[03:34] <Oracle> i mean ubuntu
[03:34] <Oracle> gparted is up
[03:34] <world_citizen> could you please give feed back about quanta plus
[03:34] <travm> ok, what does it show you for partitions?
[03:34] <Oracle> the one i want is a 180 gig ntfs part
[03:35] <Oracle> windows sees it as a 50 gig
[03:35] <Oracle> and ubuntu says that its got 165 gigs full
[03:35] <travm> it actually says 180 gig ntfs partition
[03:35] <Oracle> it has 35 gigs of data
[03:35] <Oracle> yeah
[03:35] <bruenig> Oracle, use hard drive 1 for the one ubuntu is on and hard drive 2 for the one windows is on, indefinite antecedents are making your statements very confusing, or the comments may themselves be confusing I suspect
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[03:36] <bruenig> tonyyarusso, ...^
[03:36] <Oracle> ok theyre on separate drives
[03:36] <d4rkmonkey> !ops
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[03:36] <Oracle> ubuntu never installed
[03:36] <Oracle> it almost did
[03:36] <Oracle> and now windows lost 130 gigs
[03:36] <d4rkmonkey> ahh sorry, didn't see the "Lolz has quite (Excess Flood)
[03:36] <Oracle> and ubuntu says an extra 130 gig is full
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[03:36] <Lolz> trollboy bottiger yachi dserban Zenton Vorian demon_spork kamui marko-_- floating keoni sparr_w navets_ spanks bbrazil Oni-Dracula Seeker` N3bunel addos Crust Pensacola bobslaede Apex AndrewB jgoss gangsterlicious Dave123 Lr5_ yonilevy AskHL Znarl aeGIs fdv nareshov geoaxis Lundn ggoogi Rizzen skule lataffe mahasamatman evilmunkeh defDfloyd _tat XiXaQ
[03:36] <Oracle> where did the 130 gigs go
[03:36] <Thecks> Lolz, go away
[03:36] <nixternal> damn
[03:36] <Thecks> Thank you
[03:36] <d4rkmonkey> there we go
[03:36] <travm> Oracle, how does ubuntu say anything if it didnt install?
[03:36] <Fyda> What was tha... oh.
[03:36] <bruenig> Oracle, so format the partition
[03:36] <nixternal> I was just getting ready to say thanks to d4rkmonkey when he came back :)
[03:37] <Oracle> running off the cd
[03:37] <navets_> ?
[03:37] <travm> lol
[03:37] <Oracle> ive told you all
[03:37] <Oracle> i cant format
[03:37] <bruenig> Oracle, not the drive, the partition
[03:37] <Oracle> i need ot save that data
[03:37] <DanaG> Gaack, my Firewire DVD burner doesn't show up in k3b.
[03:37] <Oracle> and i dont have anything that can hold it
[03:37] <lazylinux> Oracle backup
[03:37] <bruenig> Oracle, nothing is on the 50 gigs that you are missing
[03:37] <world_citizen> could any one please give feed back about Quanta Plus web editor
[03:37] <bruenig> partition that space
[03:37] <lazylinux> then play
[03:37] <nareshov> someone called?
[03:37] <Oracle> im missing 130
[03:37] <bruenig> or format that space*
[03:37] <Oracle> and its empty
[03:37] <dthacker> hi, what's the command to manipulate logical volumes, isn't it lvm?
[03:37] <travm> Oracle, what likely happened is the same as what happened to me,
[03:37] <bruenig> Oracle, ok, well nothing is on it, format it
[03:37] <Oracle> gparted says its full
[03:37] <Oracle> windows says it isnt there
[03:37] <bruenig> Oracle, format it
[03:38] <Oracle> its on the same part as the 35 gigs i need to keep
[03:38] <bruenig> Oracle, no it isn't, it is a separate partition
[03:38] <Oracle> and i need it all treated as the one part that it is
[03:38] <Oracle> no im looking right here
[03:38] <Oracle> one part
[03:38] <DanaG> How can I fix my drive?
[03:38] <bruenig> Oracle, do sudo fdisk -l and paste the output
[03:38] <riotkittie> whats wrong with your drive, DanaG ?
[03:38] <Oracle> where?
[03:38] <DanaG> It doesn't show up in k3b.
[03:38] <bruenig> you are saying that a drive has been partitioned without being partitioned and unless you have invented new hardware I do not believe you
[03:38] <Oracle> i suck at that kind ofs tuff
[03:39] <bruenig> Oracle, in the terminal, just run sudo fdisk -l, and then paste the output in the pastebin
[03:39] <bruenig> !paste
[03:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:39] <Oracle> ok so linux sees it one way
[03:39] <Oracle> windows sees it another
[03:39] <randomwalker> hi, i can't connect to any port except ssh
[03:39] <Oracle> both say that ive lost 130 gigs of useable spave
[03:39] <Oracle> linux says its full
[03:39] <GhostFiend> it is possible to install a distribution from an ISO which is on the harddrive that you intend to install it to?
[03:39] <bruenig> don't worry about what windows sees, windows abstracts, we can't trust it
[03:39] <Oracle> windows says its missing
[03:39] <randomwalker> i didn't enable any firewalls.. any idea what else coudl be wrong?
[03:39] <bruenig> paste the output
[03:39] <Oracle> where do i put it to start with
[03:39] <lazylinux> do you have large drive management in your linux kernel?
[03:40] <bruenig> Oracle, put what, the paste?
[03:40] <DanaG> (K3bDevice::ScsiCommand) failed:
[03:40] <DanaG>                            command:    GET PERFORMANCE (ac)
[03:40] <Oracle> and retype what i put
[03:40] <Oracle> yeha
[03:40] <GhostFiend> lazylinux, was that to me?
[03:40] <bruenig> !paste | Oracle
[03:40] <ubotu> Oracle: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <lazylinux> to oracle
[03:40] <lazylinux> he seems not to be able to see part of his drive if I am not mistaken
[03:40] <bricks> hi, I'm trying to get X to recognize my HD tv.  I have an NV18 video chipset ( I can't make the nvidia driver work, but I can get 800x600 out of the nv driver).  Is there any easy way to auto setup magic this?
[03:40] <keoni>  Has anyone else experienced monitor going into suspend/no signal mode when booting off install cd. then after a few minutes yo are at the desktop?
[03:40] <Oracle> well, i cant see part of it in windows
[03:40] <GhostFiend> I understand you can load the 'alternate' install iso into ram and install from ram?
[03:40] <Oracle> i see it as full in linux
[03:41] <Oracle> and NOTHING IS THERE
[03:41] <bruenig> lazylinux, what is likely is that he has some unallocated partition, he needs to format it with some filesystem but he doesn't understand that
[03:41] <bruenig> and so he calls it a hidden part of a greater partition even though it is its own partition
[03:41] <dthacker> randomwalker: what happens if you telnet to a port from another machine?
[03:41] <Oracle> would you like me to describe the damn colored bar
[03:41] <bruenig> Oracle, no I would like you to pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[03:41] <randomwalker> dthacker, it waits forever
[03:41] <Oracle> where do i type that
[03:41] <randomwalker> dthacker, except for the ssh port
[03:42] <DanaG> The burner works fine in Windows.
[03:42] <bruenig> Oracle, in the terminal
[03:42] <Oracle> ah
[03:42] <randomwalker> dthacker, i have apache and a copule of other services running, works fine on localhsot
[03:42] <lazylinux> if it is ext3 then windows will not read it. If you windows is on a ntfs then it may not show up at all. Use linux to back up the possible data, then run fdisk -l put output in pastebin, then listen to us to tell you to format one last time
[03:42] <riotkittie> i had a problem similar to what Oracle is describing but they're saying they didnt even partition, right?
[03:42] <Oracle> where do i open the terminal
[03:42] <Oracle> never actually had to use it
[03:42] <lazylinux> without ext3 driver that is (windows)
[03:42] <riotkittie> Oracle: go to Applications menu > Accessories
[03:42] <IdleOne> is there a way to minimize the upload/dowload window in xchat?
[03:42] <bruenig> Oracle, in the menus, accesories I think?
[03:43] <dthacker> randomwalker: what DNS servers are you pointing to in /etc/resolv.conf.   I find hanging is often a symptom on DNS problems?
[03:43] <riotkittie> or Alt + F2 gnome-terminal
[03:43] <bruenig> IdleOne, that is annoying isn't it
[03:43] <Oracle> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[03:43] <Oracle> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[03:43] <Oracle> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:43] <Oracle>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:43] <Oracle> /dev/hda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:43] <Oracle> Disk /dev/hdb: 200.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[03:43] <lazylinux> any gutsy users with usb working?
[03:43] <IdleOne> bruenig: indeed
[03:43] <riotkittie> IdleOne: no
[03:43] <Oracle> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[03:43] <Oracle> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[03:43] <Oracle>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:43] <bruenig> um
[03:43] <Oracle> /dev/hdb1             572       24034   188466547+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:43] <bruenig> !ops
[03:43] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[03:43] <Oracle> /dev/hdb2               1<PHONE_NUMBER>    7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:43] <Oracle> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[03:43] <Lustblader> lazylinux: yes mine works
[03:43] <riotkittie> Oracle: dont paste here. aye yi yi.
[03:43] <bruenig> oh he's done
[03:43] <IdleOne> riotkittie: no! is a difinitive answer and I cant believe that it cant be done
[03:43] <dthacker> Oracle, please do not paste in the channel
[03:43] <nalioth> !tell oracle about paste
[03:44] <dthacker> and he won't anymore.....
[03:44] <lazylinux> did you have to do a work around. I cannot find my camera now, used to autodetect, been on launchpad all dday to no avail
[03:44] <Madpilot> dthacker, he was just removed, not banned.
[03:44] <bruenig> He has been told about paste twice already but he was told about fs-driver.org two times when tonyyarusso told him so perhaps that is how he works
[03:44] <riotkittie> IdleOne: perhaps it can be, but i've never managed to do it.      and its so much easier to believe XYZ is impossible than it is to accept the fact that i just fail
[03:44] <Lustblader> where is pidgin installed??? i need to paste a new set of smileys
[03:44] <randomwalker> dthacker, thanks, i just tried connecting from another machine in the same network and it worked
[03:44] <IdleOne> riotkittie: lol that is true
[03:45] <randomwalker> dthacker, it must be some stupid network-level firewall that i have no control over :(
[03:45] <dthacker> randomwalker: but is your problem solved ? ;)
[03:45] <osxdude> Hey, all. I have just gotten the driver for the Logitech QuickCam Communitate STX. Everything is loaded, and I see my camera in the camera list for Flash apps. However, the camera will not start!!! How do I start the camera manually, or how can I make the camera start on request?
[03:45] <qazwsx> how do you kill a process in this state: 2662  4.8  2.8<PHONE_NUMBER>68 ?       D    19:27   3:43 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin ?
[03:45] <randomwalker> dthacker, nope, i don't see how i can fix it
[03:45] <IdleOne> qazwsx: kill -9 2662
[03:45] <travm> Anyone know where I might start to try to rescue my windows install?  I tried the rescue Cd, didnt work.  It all went wrong when I resized my partition to install ubuntu.
[03:45] <IcemanV9> qazwsx: pkill firefox
[03:45] <riotkittie> bbl. must go play video games with my other half.  <3
[03:45] <dthacker> randomwalker: those wascally wabbit network guys....
[03:46] <qazwsx> IdleOne: still there
[03:46] <qazwsx> IcemanV9: still there
[03:46] <snuff> Does anyone know of a list of digital cameras that work ok with Ubuntu?
[03:46] <randomwalker> dthacker, i can ping the nameserver from the outside, it isn't that.. i guess i'm gonna have to wait until monday
[03:46] <dthacker> so anyway, I'll try my question again.  How do I fire up the volume manager from the command line.  Isn't it lvm?
[03:46] <IdleOne> !camera | snuff
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <IdleOne> !cameras | snuff
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cameras - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <IdleOne> hmmm
[03:46] <IcemanV9> qazwsx: sudo pkill firefox
[03:46] <smmagic> snuff: my outdated kodak easyshare cx4310 works fine
[03:47] <riotkittie> my fujifilm cams have always worked great
[03:47] <IdleOne> !hardware | snuff
[03:47] <ubotu> snuff: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:47] <Oracle> ok
[03:47] <qazwsx> IcemanV9: still there
[03:47] <Oracle> so after i hit the paste link there
[03:47] <Oracle> then what
[03:47] <travm> snuff, there is a list I saw somewhere, basically any camera made in the last 5 yrs works great
[03:47] <nalioth> Oracle: you give us the URL to the pastebin
[03:47] <Nyle> hi
[03:47] <Oracle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43079/plain/
[03:48] <DanaG>  ata1.00: 16 bytes trailing data
[03:48] <Oracle> the 200 gig drives first part is what im refering to
[03:48] <Oracle> hdb1
[03:49] <Nyle> I am trying to find my MAC address for my broadcom bcm43xx card in my laptop.  ifconfig tells me that eth1 (wireless) is HWaddr 00-90-4B-B1-9F-51-30-3A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 .  The wired onboard eth Waddr looks like HWaddr 00:08:74:9B:27:B4 .  what exactly is my wireless card (eth1) MAC address?
[03:49] <Oracle> i gtg in 10 minutes
[03:49] <Oracle> should i come back later?
[03:50] <Oracle> i guess nobodys gonna help me anymore, im gonna go then
[03:50] <DanaG> What other ISO burning utilities are there?
[03:50] <DanaG> It seems like k3b won't work.
[03:50] <elninja> Anyone here ever heard of blocking ports at the NIC, rather than using firewall software?
[03:50] <Nyle> would it be 00:90:4B:B1:9F:51:30:3A ? but doesnt' look like because its not 6 pairs, 12 digits
[03:50] <osxdude> ?
[03:50] <osxdude> Hey, all. I have just gotten the driver for the Logitech QuickCam Communitate STX. Everything is loaded, and I see my camera in the camera list for Flash apps. However, the camera will not start!!! How do I start the camera manually, or how can I make the camera start on request?
[03:50] <Nyle> help
[03:50] <Oracle> nobody helpin me anymore?
[03:51] <travm> osxdude, turn it on?
[03:51] <brew> Can someone help me out with MySQL?
[03:51] <Oracle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43079/plain/           thats what it put out
[03:51] <nts> anyone know how i get XGL on ubuntu ?
[03:51] <IcemanV9> qazwsx: is firefox still hung?
[03:51] <lazylinux> how would I edit my /etc/fstab to auto detect usb devices. I see nothing in there for such
[03:51] <nts> anyone know how i get XGL on ubuntu ?
[03:51] <Oracle> alright, ill be back when someone cares
[03:51] <brew> Anyone here good with MySQL?
[03:51] <IdleOne> Oracle: you need to be patient and give them a chance to look at it
[03:51] <blahblahx> whats a simple, small tool for resizing images?
[03:52] <smmagic> Anyone know anything like ms paint for ubuntu?
[03:52] <lazylinux> tuxpaint
[03:52] <DanaG>  /dev/scd1: GET PERFORMANCE length det failed.
[03:52] <AMDfanboy> dudes, i want to watch a dvd, so i put it in, and it loads totem and i get all excited, and then it says "could not open location: you might not have permission to open this file"  any ideas?
[03:52] <DanaG> gaack.
[03:52] <Nyle> does anyone know?
[03:52] <smmagic> Do not say tuxpaint
[03:52] <lazylinux> but gimp does a lot more
[03:52] <AMDfanboy> ubuntu can play dvd mvoies by default?
[03:52] <lazylinux> and has many add ons
[03:52] <Ashfire908> how do i check the memory usage on a command line system?
[03:52] <travm> AMDfanboy, no it cant
[03:52] <hairulfr> blahblahx: There a batch one i used once to resize 600 pics, just search for it in synaptic, batch convert something
[03:52] <smmagic> Took me a hour to download tuxpaint and it sucks
[03:52] <brew> smmagic: GIMP is like PS... idk bout something as crummy as paint tho :P
[03:53] <lazylinux> only with codecs installed search medibuntu repositories for the word dvd codecs
[03:53] <IdleOne> !dvd | AMDfanboy
[03:53] <Oracle> yeah, cya
[03:53] <mike_judd> Ashfire908: top
[03:53] <travm> AMDfanboy, im on dialup or i'd look up the site you need.  check the ubuntu desktop guide on the wbsite documentation section
[03:53] <dthacker> Ashfire908: try "top" from the command line.  For usage man top
[03:53] <ubotu> AMDfanboy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:53] <Oracle> so last check DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX MY PROBLEM
[03:53] <blahblahx> any specific image resizing program names?
[03:53] <mohadib> Oracle HEYE
[03:53] <Oracle> what
[03:54] <travm> Oracle, at a quick look, it looks like you have unpartitioned space on your drive
[03:54] <Bogaurd> I'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 desktop - it's getting stuck at 'scanning disks'. if i run gparted manually, it gets suck at 'scanning disks' too - ubuntu 7.04 has no such issues. any ideas?
[03:54] <Oracle> im aware
[03:54] <Ashfire908> dthacker, mike_judd: thanks
[03:54] <Oracle> not important
[03:54] <Oracle> i left it intentionally
[03:54] <DanaG> Oh heck, even Nautilus won't see the DVD burner.
[03:54] <travm> what do you want to do?
[03:54] <Oracle> it is unrelated
[03:54] <AMDfanboy> travm: what do i have to do?
[03:54] <voidmage-away> random esoteric question: on edgy's update-manager to upgrade to feisty the download speed is written as kb/s when I know it should be with a capital B
[03:54] <travm> amdfanboy, check that link
[03:54] <voidmage-away> why is that wrong, semantic bitching, blah blah blah
[03:54] <voidmage-away> :P
[03:54] <caravel> hi folks
[03:54] <dthacker> Bogaurd: try the alternate install CD?
[03:54] <brew> smmagic: y u want something like paint??? something like Photoshop is 1000x better... go with GIMP
[03:54] <Oracle> ill be on tomorrow afternoon
[03:55] <Au3Bot> Hello!
[03:55] <Bogaurd> dthacker: no, i didnt know what that one was for - what's different about it?
[03:55] <DanaG> How do I fix my burner?
[03:55] <travm> AMDfanboy, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier
[03:55] <smmagic> Can someone tell me why in gimp when I select a area and copy it only gives me the top left
[03:55] <dthacker> Bogaurd: how much ram do you have...
[03:55] <travm> Oracle, what is your final goal?
[03:55] <Bogaurd> dthacker: 1gb
[03:55] <travm> 1 NTFS drive?
[03:55] <keoni> can someone pm me their apt line for universe
[03:55] <travm> with all data on it
[03:55] <mike_judd> smmagic: Have you got the right layer selected?
[03:55] <smmagic> Yes
[03:56] <IdleOne> !universe | keoni
[03:56] <ubotu> keoni: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:56] <dthacker> Bogaurd: ok, *that*'s not your problem..... :)  Alternate install works better on older hw
[03:56] <Bogaurd> dthacker: i see... the system is an athlon xp 2500
[03:56] <qazwsx> what is the right way (TM) to install ubuntu?
[03:56] <Bogaurd> dthacker, looks like it's a bug with libparted or something.
[03:56] <qazwsx> what is the right way (TM) to install nvidia binary drivers? give me a one line apt-get please
[03:56] <mike_judd> smmagic : have you tried Select->All
[03:56] <brew> !mysql | brew
[03:56] <DanaG> Any help with the dvd burner?
[03:56] <brew> lol
[03:57] <smmagic> But I only want a certain section
[03:57] <mike_judd> oops
[03:57] <qazwsx> !nvidia | qazwsx
[03:57] <Big-E> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:57] <Big-E> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:57] <Big-E> What does that mean?
[03:57] <dthacker> Bogaurd: I'm not sure what is causing you to get stuck.  If you are in a position to do so, you may want to wipe the disk(s) and try again.
[03:57] <smmagic> It still gives me the corner when I slect all
[03:57] <smmagic> Grr
[03:57] <Bogaurd> dthacker.. tried that already :(
[03:57] <wheredidrealityg> Big-E: you have another synaptic or add/remove programs open.
[03:58] <wheredidrealityg> Big-E: you can only install/download one thing at a time.
[03:58] <osxdude> Big-E, if you have none of those open, do sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[03:58] <Bogaurd> i'll try disabling the motherboards onboard sata raid etc
[03:58] <DanaG> cat: /dev/sr1: No medium found
[03:58] <osxdude> Otherwise, DO NOT do that command.
[03:58] <DanaG> sr 12:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device
[03:58] <IdleOne> wheredidrealityg: not entirely correct you can only use 1 application at a time to download/install
[03:58] <Big-E> thanks
[03:59] <wheredidrealityg> IdleOne: Yeah, that was badly worded, sorry. Only one program can use apt at a time hehe.
[03:59] <dthacker> Bogaurd: ok, gook luck
[03:59] <aBu3eR> hi
[03:59] <IdleOne> wheredidrealityg: from the repos of course
[03:59] <aBu3eR> iam on ubuntu live cd..   why cant i install anyting?
[04:00] <IdleOne> aBu3eR: what do you want to install?
[04:00] <smultron> can a virus on a  VPN server infect the VPN client computer?
[04:00] <osxdude> Hey...can any of you answer this question at this link? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3695377#post3695377
[04:00] <aBu3eR> IdleOne:i need to isntall partimage    it is a partition back up  utility that i need to work from a live disk in order to back up an unmounted partition
[04:00] <keoni> !easysource
[04:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:01] <dthacker> smultron: unlikely if they are linux.  Are they?
[04:01] <smultron> dthacker: both windows unfortunately
[04:01] <Mythil> Hi there. Anyone awake at this hour?
[04:01]  * Caram slaps smultron around a bit with a large trout
[04:01] <dthacker> smultron: sorry, gave up windows years ago. :)
[04:02] <smultron> dthacker: yeah, not my idea. but it's hard to get other people in my company to even consider something other than Windows
[04:02] <wheredidrealityg> Mythil: Depends on your definition of awake I guess.
[04:02] <IdleOne> aBu3eR: I believe you need to enable the universe repo to install partimage
[04:02] <IdleOne> !universe | aBu3eR
[04:02] <ubotu> aBu3eR: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:02] <lazylinux> osxdude http://osdir.com/ml/linux.drivers.spca50x.devel/2005-07/msg00001.html
[04:02] <Mythil> Ahh, well this place seems more alive. I'm having ubuntu probelms. Is it possible I  could speak with a more knoledgable person in pm?
[04:02] <dthacker> Mythil: !ask
[04:02] <Madpilot> Mythil, just ask your question here
[04:03] <BeOSMrX_> is this really true: Currently user can't control mouse speed in X. ? i have mx518 with max dpi and its too fast. ive set xset m 1 1 and still too fast
[04:03] <DanaG> Oh heck, even HAL doesn't see the drive!
[04:03] <wheredidrealityg> Mythil: What would your specific problems be?
[04:03] <DanaG> What the heck?
[04:03] <Mythil> Ahh, well, windows finally gave up on me, and I thought I would give Ubuntu a try. So err, I'm totally new and can't remember (from reading) how you install downloaded programs
[04:03] <IdleOne> DanaG: did you consider that maybe the drive does not exist and you imagined it all ? :)
[04:04] <osxdude> dang it
[04:04] <IdleOne> DanaG: not helpfull Im sorry
[04:04] <Madpilot> Mythil, Applications->Add/Remove Apps->use the checkboxes. Easy.
[04:04] <osxdude> the helper left me :(
[04:04] <Mythil> Ahh, well I've been trying to install the drivers for my graphics card and I can't see them there
[04:04] <wheredidrealityg> Mythil: ATI or nVidia?
[04:04] <Caram> nn all
[04:04] <DanaG> I can see the scsi device, but not the optical drive itself.
[04:05] <Mythil> nvidia
[04:05] <Cyb3r3li0g> quick question: Anyone has a link handy to some of the compiz-fusion keyboard commands?
[04:05] <Madpilot> ubot3, nvidia | Mythil
[04:05] <wheredidrealityg> Mythil: go to synaptic, and and install nvidia-glx-new
[04:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, nvidia | Mythil
[04:05] <ubotu> Mythil: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <Mythil> thanks
[04:06] <aBu3eR> IdleOne: but then  it would need to download the list but how owuld it download the list it is a CD
[04:06] <bullgard4> Synaptic says: "Compiz is a compositing and window manager." What is a 'compositing manager?'
[04:06] <IdleOne> aBu3eR: download what list?
[04:07] <aBu3eR> IdleOne: in Synaptic  i enabled the Universe and it started to reload the new list of oaps
[04:07] <aBu3eR> and failed to downlaod
[04:07] <hikenboot> greetings can anyone tell me where in ubuntu module.conf is ?
[04:07] <DanaG> Oh, and gparted crashes every time it rescans, but not on the initial scan.
[04:07] <wheredidrealityg> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing
[04:07] <IdleOne> aBu3eR: I really dont know I never tried installing anything from the live cd :/
[04:07] <hikenboot> DanaG I have similar problems with gparted
[04:08] <hikenboot> not to mention the gparted live cd always screws my partitons
[04:08] <aBu3eR> gparted?
[04:08] <aBu3eR> bad?
[04:08] <wheredidrealityg> bullgard4: basically it's combining multiple images (or, a composite) into one in order to enable visual effects.
[04:08] <DanaG> gnome-umount --device /dev/sdb1
[04:08] <DanaG> gnome-mount 0.6
[04:08] <bullgard4> wheredidrealityg: Thank you very much for an excellent hint and answer.
[04:08] <DanaG> wow, what a useful command.  All it does is tell you the version.
[04:08] <hikenboot> without fail it screws up the partitions I stopped using it
[04:08] <IdleOne> !backup | aBu3eR see if any of this helps you
[04:08] <ubotu> aBu3eR see if any of this helps you: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:09] <aBu3eR> hikenboot.. what have you startd using?
[04:09] <wheredidrealityg> bullgard4: glad to be of service :)
[04:09] <hikenboot> maybe I should become a beta tester for their project
[04:09] <hikenboot> I use commercial products after imaging the hard drives
[04:09] <IdleOne> aBu3eR: you are trying to backup a windows drive hmmmm dont think any of those links will help but take a look anyway
[04:09] <aBu3eR> ubotu:  i have been trying to make a backup for past 4 days.. and all means faild .. dont evne sayt he word "dd" to me.
[04:09] <Mythil> Err, one more question if it's okay. Do you install things like wine the same way?
[04:09] <hikenboot> anyone know where modules.conf is in ubuntu
[04:10] <IdleOne> ubotu: botsnack
[04:10] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:10] <Cyb3r3li0g> join #2600
[04:10] <aBu3eR> IdleOne: iam trying to make a back up of a linux partition
[04:10] <aBu3eR> not windows
[04:10] <aBu3eR> has anyone here ever use partiamge?
[04:10] <Cristinri4o8> could i get some help my deskto for some reason keeps freezing on me
[04:10] <hikenboot> is it ext2 or ext3?
[04:10] <IdleOne> aBu3eR: well take a look at those links
[04:11] <sethk> aBu3eR, I've backed up partitions using dd, which is probably what partimage does
[04:11] <aBu3eR> hikenboot: ext3
[04:11] <hikenboot> you could try partition magic I believe it supports ext3
[04:11] <hikenboot> image your hard drive first though
[04:11] <sethk> backing up a partition does _not_ require knowledge of the file system on the partition
[04:12] <Calin24> I just had to recompile my kernel to enable raid5 with dmraid, but now the module for nvidia can't be found or loaded... any suggestions how i can get it back?
[04:12] <sethk> Calin24, rerun the nvidia installation procedure
[04:12] <aBu3eR> aw[04:12] <aBu3eR> linux?
[04:12] <college> LINUX IS GRATE... GIVE SOMEONE A ISO UBUNTU CD
[04:13] <suemeee> No caps plz
[04:13] <GTO-Linux> There we go
[04:13] <Calin24> sethk: so disable the restricted driver, then enable it again?
[04:13] <suemeee> Calin24, install it again
[04:13] <tehk> Anyone know where I would get a edid for my hdtv(for nvidia settings)
[04:14] <YellowGTO_Nix> edid?
[04:14] <blond1> hi
[04:14] <sethk> Calin24, just rerun the install from the command line.  disable/enable might work also, never tried that way.
[04:14] <dispraekailo> Might anyone know why some of my packages downgraded when doing a dist upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[04:14] <timothywcrane> plugged in usb camera
[04:14] <timothywcrane> desmg
[04:14] <timothywcrane> output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43082/
[04:14] <timothywcrane> I know I have a usb1 bus- so I sudo rmmod ehci_hcd -output- ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules -what now?
[04:14] <Calin24> ok.. my onboard sound also stopped working, alsa need something specific from the install kernel aswell? (i used the same default install .config file so assumed it should of grabbed it)
[04:14] <dispraekailo> Some of the programs I was running both closed and reverted, while others completely uninstalled.
[04:14] <YellowGTO_Nix> Shit forgot about my damn food
[04:15] <dispraekailo> There's a lot of things broken since the dist upgrade
[04:15] <timothywcrane> still no detection or mount
[04:15] <timothywcrane> Gutsy
[04:15] <Ashfire908> how do i find out what tty i'm on?
[04:15] <sethk> Calin24, it should have, indeed, but perhaps the module is built but not loaded.
[04:15] <aBu3eR> is there any paid software  to do parition back up for linux?
[04:15] <regulate> aBu3eR: look into partimage
[04:16] <blond1> I need help
[04:16] <aBu3eR> iam trying to use part image
[04:16] <regulate> and?
[04:16] <aBu3eR> but i cannot downlaod it on to live cd
[04:16] <regulate> i think most knoppix live cd's come with it
[04:16] <sethk> Calin24, if you still have the old kernel available, boot it, and run    lsmod    to list the active modules.
[04:16] <aBu3eR> iam on ubuntu though
[04:17] <regulate> but if you're using a bootup cd it doesn't matter
[04:17] <Clearzen> !restricted formats
[04:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:17] <jstarcher> whats a good irc server daemon?
[04:17] <regulate> jstarcher: none
[04:17] <timothywcrane> plz have pity if you can help. hour 9 with no usb detection or mount ability on gutsy.
[04:17] <Calin24> should still be there, used the debian install build method for compiling it... will try that. :) thanks
[04:17] <jstarcher> regulate, wtf?
[04:17] <regulate> jstarcher: they all come with headaches
[04:17] <timothywcrane> lowered myselg to changing screennames to get answered
[04:17] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: Have you had the same problem on earlier kernels?
[04:18] <regulate> jstarcher: goole ircd
[04:18] <regulate> google*
[04:18] <jstarcher> regulate, not worth running my own?
[04:18] <timothywcrane> no. I upgraded to gutsy, and my old kernels will not load. been on launchpad all day
[04:18] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: what do you get when you type lsusb?
[04:18] <regulate> jstarcher: for educational purposes ? knock ur self out
[04:19] <ACKER> i just installed Gutsy tonight and it's spontaneously rebooted twice so far tonight. Can someone please help
[04:19] <timothywcrane> feisty worked fine, but I went from dapper to edgy to feist to gutsy with updates, hate to have to do it all over from a dapper cd
[04:19] <regulate> ACKER: were you doing anything in particular when that happened?
[04:19] <ACKER> 1st time no.. Second time installing limewire
[04:20] <regulate> ACKER: look through your /var/log/messages around the time it rebooted for something suspicious
[04:20] <timothywcrane> damn compiz-fusion enticed me into updates at the expense of my usb, and thus maybe my job lol but not relly laughing
[04:20] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: Well, there is a few possibilities. If I could get the output of lsusb and lsmod | grep usb I might be able to help
[04:20] <keoni> can anyone point me towards some docs involving install gutsy. i want to have a software raid setup
[04:20] <timothywcrane> lsusb-   Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:20] <timothywcrane> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:21] <kahrytan> Whats so important about raid?
[04:21] <regulate> timothywcrane: pastebin the whole thing
[04:21] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: You should use pastebin btw
[04:21] <keoni> supposudly better performance with raid 0
[04:21] <drakode> View  http://www.linux.melkor.cl !!!
[04:21] <keoni> and i can sac some cpu if i can get higher read/write speeds
[04:22] <ACKER> alright i'll look there.. Thanks
[04:22] <regulate> keoni: lol
[04:22] <docgnome> I just installed Gutsy Gibon and am having problems with getting my sound card working. I have an onboard sound card that works fine but I can't get any sound out of my Sound Blaster.
[04:22] <docgnome> it seems to be detected, but no sound comes out
[04:22] <bloony> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <-- anyone know how to fix this?
[04:22] <regulate> docgnome: you probably need to reconfigure the kernel to enable that
[04:23] <docgnome> regulate: how would I do that?
[04:23] <Ahadiel> docgnome, try typing "alsamixer" into the command line
[04:23] <regulate> Ahadiel: thx
[04:23] <Ahadiel> docgnome, and turning up the volumes
[04:23] <rryan> Anyone know the 'right' way to disable bulletproof x ? It stops me from being able to access tty's when my X server dies, and I would always just manually fix my xorg.conf
[04:23] <Clearzen> bloony: You need binutils
[04:23] <docgnome> Ahadiel: i did. It brings up a mixer for the onboard sounds card
[04:23] <timothywcrane> usbcore               138632  2 uhci_hcd        (patebin only gives it back to me to download as text)
[04:23] <Clearzen> bloony: sudo aptitude install binutils
[04:23] <bloony> Clearzen: apt-get install binutils?
[04:24] <bloony> j
[04:24] <bloony> k
[04:24] <Clearzen> bloony: yeah, it may be binutil I can't remeber
[04:24] <bloony> whats aptitude?
[04:24] <Ahadiel> docgnome, did you set the other one as the default one?
[04:24] <regulate> rryan: does ctrl+alt+backspace drop you to a term?
[04:24] <Clearzen> do a search sudo aptitude search binutil
[04:24] <Ahadiel> docgnome, System => Prefs => Sound
[04:24] <rryan> nope... if my x server dies, and gdm starts up a bulletproof x instance,   neither ctrl-alt-backspace, nor ctrl-alt-  f1 - f5 bring up tty's
[04:24] <suemeee> bloony, cflags might be the problem
[04:24] <docgnome> Ahadiel: the device is set to SB Live
[04:24] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: Okay, so what happens when you plug in a usb device?
[04:25] <regulate> rryan: and f{7-12} ?
[04:25] <Ahadiel> docgnome, I have no idea T_T
[04:25] <bloony> suemeee: whats that? cause the binutils is the newest version it says
[04:25] <rryan> regulate : really nothing works..  i try all of them...
[04:25] <timothywcrane> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43082/      from my  desmg
[04:25] <rryan> regulate : I really just want to turn bulletproof x completely off
[04:26] <regulate> hmm i dont really know much about it
[04:26] <bloony> Clearzen: whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[04:26] <rryan> regulate : and I don't want to just remove the script from /etc/gdm/ because I imagine that's not hte 'right' way
[04:26] <timothywcrane> tried sudo rmmod ehci_hcd to see if it helped but no file found
[04:26] <timothywcrane> I think it might be a hal prob   ?
[04:27] <ACKER> regulate -- my messages don't start until after the reboot :/
[04:27] <Clearzen> bloony: The way aptitude deals with dependencies if different. It will offer you solutions to situations where you can't install a program for one.
[04:27] <Clearzen> bloony: Also, it will not leave orphaned packages on your system when you removed installed components
[04:28] <bloony> k
[04:28] <tigran> Hi all. How can I disable the pop-up for 'Import pictures' when I plug in a flash drive? I click the 'always perform this action' but it keeps coming up. Any help is appreciated.
[04:28] <regulate> rryan: i think gdm is what controls starting bulletproof if your xorg fails
[04:28] <Ebiggs> I can't get Flash to install in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Can somebody help me out?
[04:28] <bloony> Clearzen: so.. to sumarize; its better? :)
[04:28] <timothywcrane> I know that it is not a lack of data on the scandisk, I took a few pics extra to make sure
[04:28] <regulate> rryan: so adjusting gdm.conf is actually a 'right' way , (whatever)
[04:28] <rryan> regulate : yea it runs /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer if it notices your X server crashes
[04:28] <Flynsarmy> How do you change the default application for a file extension in ubuntu?
[04:29] <Clearzen> bloony: The way it deals with package management is cleaner.
[04:29] <regulate> Flynsarmy: what?
[04:29] <Clearzen> bloony: In my opinion
[04:29] <bloony> Clearzen: ok.. but.. it didnt fix my problem.. :)
[04:29] <regulate> Flynsarmy: kdg ? gnome? other?
[04:29] <Ebiggs> Flynsarmy: System>Preferences>Preferred Applications
[04:29] <Flynsarmy> regulate: Gnome
[04:29] <Flynsarmy> Ebiggs: Thanks
[04:29] <bloony> Clearzen: It says I already got the newest version..
[04:29] <regulate> Ebiggs: lucky draw
[04:30] <Clearzen> bloony: oh, it's telling you it can't build the binaries right. Give me the exact error again.
[04:30] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, find a file of that type. Right click, choose Properties, go to the open with tab
[04:30] <Ebiggs> Has anybody had trouble installing 64-bit flash in Gutsy?
[04:30] <timothywcrane> just for the hell of it, I´m going into kde to see if it is a gnome issue brb.
[04:30] <Flynsarmy> Madpilot: Doesn't that just open it with that app once instead of every time?
[04:30] <hairulfr> Ebiggs: Get a 32.bit firefox
[04:30] <bloony> Clearzen: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:30] <bloony> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:30] <regulate> Ebiggs: its a hairy issue
[04:30] <tigran> Flynsarmy: no, does it always
[04:31] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, no.
[04:31] <bloony> Clearzen: want me to put config in a pastebin?
[04:31] <Madpilot> Flynsarmy, for a once-off, use right-click->Open With...
[04:31] <Flynsarmy> tigran: Madpilot Thanks
[04:31] <suemeee> bloony, what are you trying to compile ?
[04:31] <tigran> How can I disable the pop-up for 'Import pictures' when I plug in a flash drive? I click the 'always perform this action' but it keeps coming up.
[04:31] <bloony> suemeee: alsa drivers
[04:31] <Ebiggs> I love how the forum says that it just works.
[04:31] <Clearzen> bloony: run ldconfig and try again
[04:32] <bloony> Clearzen: same msgs
[04:32] <tigran> Ebiggs: I love the irony in that haha
[04:32] <ACKER> regulate : K nm I found it back to when it rebooted. But I cannot see anything that would case it.
[04:32] <Ebiggs> Would using the Feisty method (nspluginwrapper) work?
[04:32] <ACKER> cause*
[04:32] <Clearzen> bloony: hmm, it'll take me a second. Hang on
[04:32] <bloony> http://geocities.com/rburra/echo.html -> the line:    sudo ./configure --with-cards=indigoio --with-sequencer=yes
[04:32] <chowmeined> no
[04:32] <bloony> Clearzen: kk
[04:32] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, ive setup gutsy on a bunch of machines
[04:33] <suemeee> bloony, check gcc-config  -l
[04:33] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, you just install the flash plugin and it auto sets up nspluginwrapper
[04:33] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, it just works
[04:33] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: No dice.  I've done that.
[04:33] <DanMulvey> I just installed Ubuntu Server 7.10; I have a wired d-link ethernet card and I can't figure how to get it set up
[04:33] <bloony> suemeee: command not found?
[04:33] <DanMulvey> The cable is plugged into it and the light on the card is on
[04:33] <Clearzen> bloony: just out of curiosity, are you trying to build this source on an external drive?
[04:33] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, actually the way i did it was.. i browsed to a page with flash on it (youtube) and i could install it through firefox
[04:34] <suemeee> bloony, small app install it
[04:34] <regulate> ACKER: well, thats where the kernel logs messages, and the kernel is what talks to your hardware. so your hardware must be what's making it reboot. as the kernel isn't aware of whats happening
[04:34] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: That doesn't show up either.
[04:34] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, you need to make sure the repo is added
[04:34] <bloony> Clearzen: hum.. yes
[04:34] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: Which would that be?
[04:34] <bloony> Clearzen: hehe I guess thats a bad Idea
[04:34] <timothywcrane> in kde, still no go on usb
[04:34] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, i believe it is multiverse
[04:34] <randin-> i just used the do-release-upgrade command and it died during the removal of old packages, is there anyway to restart that process?
[04:34] <bloony> Clearzen: since your putting it like that :)
[04:34] <Clearzen> bloony:  are you sure you have execute permissions on that drive?
[04:34] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: its enabled
[04:35] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, and restricted and universe?
[04:35] <bloony> Clearzen: its a ntfs drive
[04:35] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: All of them. =\
[04:35] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, i have them all enabled
[04:35] <bloony> but I can move the files and try
[04:35] <ACKER> regulate : here is my messages if you could take a look please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43085/
[04:35] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, and you did aptitude update?
[04:35] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, well when you close it .. it should reload them
[04:35] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: Synaptic shows it as being installed.
[04:35] <Clearzen> bloony: You need execute permissions to build binaries
[04:35] <Nyle> I need to patch my bcm43xx driver to use packet injection
[04:35] <bloony> kk
[04:35] <Nyle> can't quite figure out how to patch it
[04:35] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, close firefox then open it again and browse to a page with flash
[04:35] <tigran> Looks like no one knows what I'm talking about =/
[04:35] <bloony> Clearzen: ok.. how do I copy a folder?
[04:35] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: I've done that.
[04:35] <Nyle> I've got the patch for the 2.6.22 version of the driver
[04:36] <pvl1> are there any good guides for jack
[04:36] <Clearzen> cp /folder /destination/drive
[04:36] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, what happens?
[04:36] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: This was a clean install too, apart from keeping my /home
[04:36] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, there must be something.. ive done this on at least 10 64bit machines
[04:36] <Nyle> tigran: this is ubuntu. don't expect a lot of people to be able to help
[04:36] <docgnome> does anyone know about configuring sound blaster live cards in gutsy? I just did a fresh install and am having problems. the card is detected and the onboard card works, but the sound blaster doesn't.
[04:36] <regulate> ACKER: something issued a restart signal
[04:37] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: At a youtube video page, the part where the video should be is just empty space.  No messages to install flash or anything.
[04:37] <Nyle> tigran: there are a very few knowledgable people here, and they are usually busy
[04:37] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, ok remove flashplugin-nonfree
[04:37] <timothywcrane> what kernel module handles auto detection of usb devices I have usbmount installed but it doesnt show in modprobe. I may just be way off here, but I am desparate
[04:37] <DanaG> docgnome: make sure the sblive is set as default if that's what you want.
[04:37] <bloony> Clearzen: hum.. should it be possible to do it as root in my user home folder?
[04:37] <tigran> Nyle: ive noticed :P
[04:37] <DanaG> Go to the Gnome sound preferences thingy.
[04:37] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, make sure there isnt a flash plugin installed in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[04:37] <regulate> ACKER: are you sure you didn't do anything to make it restart?
[04:37] <ACKER> nothing.
[04:37] <pvl1> can anyone help me with jackd?
[04:37] <docgnome> DanaG: it is. or at least I think it is. that's what it says in system -> preferences -> sound
[04:38] <DanaG> Hmm.
[04:38] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, and delete ~/.macromedia
[04:38] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: It very well may be the kernel you are using. Try a earlier version
[04:38] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: Okay, give me a sec.
[04:38] <DanaG> Check the "analog/digital" toggle -- that's another big one.
[04:38] <tigran> Nyle: Its just hard when your best friend Google doesnt give you answers either
[04:38] <Clearzen> bloony: yes, that should be fine
[04:38] <ACKER> it did say something on a blackscreen about the temperature. But ti went by fast
[04:38] <regulate> ACKER: what kind of hardware is this running on?
[04:38] <timothywcrane> it wont load x
[04:38] <bloony> Clearzen: didnt work tho.. :/
[04:38] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: That would be in /home/username right?
[04:38] <docgnome> DanaG: I don't see that anywhere
[04:38] <Clearzen> bloony: did it give you the same error?
[04:38] <timothywcrane> will you help me with x conf to get screens set?
[04:38] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, yea.. or ~
[04:38] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, ~ just means your home dir
[04:39] <bloony> Clearzen: yupp
[04:39] <DanaG> The Gnome mixer hides stuff by default.
[04:39] <Clearzen> timothywcrane: Yeah, in a second
[04:39] <timothywcrane> if so what caommand line irc should I install to get back here?
[04:39] <DanaG> Dig around in the menu for "preferences".
[04:39] <regulate> ACKER: do other operating systems inhibit the same behavior
[04:39] <ACKER> no
[04:39] <ACKER> just this one
[04:39] <timothywcrane> no prob, I ll go to synaptic
[04:39] <Clearzen> bloony: Try this: export CC=gcc
[04:40] <Clearzen> bloony: Then try again
[04:40] <bloony> Clearzen: still same msg
[04:40] <ACKER> and im not sure the type of hardware 2.something ghz systemboard with a not so good video card and a gig of ram lol
[04:40] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: Flash still has stuff in the /plugins folder.
[04:40] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, under the home directory?
[04:40] <bloony> Clearzen: but will the config.log file its refering to help you?
[04:41] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, yea delete that libflashplayer.so and the flashplayer.xpt
[04:41] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: flashplayer.xpt, libflashplayer.so, and .DS_Store
[04:41] <Clearzen> bloony: What are you trying to build?
[04:41] <Scunizi> I just did a clean install of Gutsy with a seperate /home.  What would happen if I changed the /home reference to my other /home partition that Dapper uses?
[04:41] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, did you upgrade from 32bit?
[04:41] <docgnome> DanaG: well I hear static when that box is clicked... and it stops when I uncheck it
[04:41] <eboyjr> So... I logged into Ubuntu just now and the wallpaper isn't showing up. Just the background color I had set for it, and when I right-click on it, it does not show a context menu! What happened?
[04:41] <randin-> :q!
[04:41] <randin-> erm
[04:42] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, i mean.. is this home dir from a 32bit install?
[04:42] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: okay, deleted that and macromedia
[04:42] <lacuce> Hello. Can someone help me with bandwidth management on Ubuntu?
[04:42] <bloony> Clearzen: http://geocities.com/rburra/echo.html ->    sudo ./configure --with-cards=indigoio --with-sequencer=yes  <---  that line
[04:42] <Clearzen> eboyjr: nautilus isn't working ctrl+alt+backspace should fix it
[04:42] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: No, it was a 64-bit I believe...Is there a way to check though?
[04:42] <bloony> Clearzen: its alsa drivers
[04:42] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, well.. its too late heh
[04:42] <Scunizi> lacuce, yoiu have to ask a more specific question
[04:42] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, unless those are still in your Trash?
[04:42] <eboyjr> Clearzen: Does that mean I have to restart my programs?
[04:42] <Ebiggs> Yeah, they are.
[04:43] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, actually.. yea it was 32bit
[04:43] <DanaG> Hmm, you can use speaker-test (do speaker-test --help to see parameters) to test the audio.
[04:43] <Clearzen> eboyjr: yes
[04:43] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, there is no 64bit flash.. and those were installed without nspluginwrapper
[04:43] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, ok.. actually try restarting firefox again and see if flash works
[04:43]  * DanaG wishes Grub could chainload to Firewire.
[04:43] <DanaG> Firewire CD drive, specifically.
[04:43] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, you might not need to reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:43] <Clearzen> bloony: Well give me a minute and I can come up with one or two ideas
[04:43] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: I think I may have had a 32-bit firefox before...I don't really remember what I did. =P
[04:44] <bloony> Clearzen: thx I'll wait :)
[04:44] <mosibfu> hi, i have a problem, ubuntu loaded great, but boom, it stopped loading now, (gui boot gets cut and i see *starting Bluetooth Services   nothing happens, i ctrl+alt+f1 login, sudo gdm and login normally reboot, same error, how can i disable it, since.. i have no bluetooth devices
[04:44] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: ...I love you. XD
[04:44] <df6dfa> sdf
[04:45] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, i know
[04:45] <chowmeined> hehe
[04:45] <Clearzen> bloony: do you already have build-essential installed?
[04:45] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: I take that back.
[04:45] <eboyjr> Clearzen: I didn't have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, I just had to run 'nautilus' from the command line.
[04:45] <bloony> Clearzen: no clue :p
[04:45] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: No suitable plugins found.
[04:45] <Clearzen> eboyjr: cool
[04:45] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: Should I install in synaptic instead?
[04:45] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, ok.. aptitude remove flashplugin-nonfree
[04:45] <Clearzen> bloony: Do sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:45] <docgnome> DanaG: doesn't seem to make any noise
[04:46] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, or remove it in synaptic
[04:46] <DanaG> Hmm.
[04:46] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, and then try it again through firefox
[04:46] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: I was trying to install from viewing a flash site.  I hadn't been back into synaptic to install it.
[04:46] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: the thing did pop up though.
[04:46] <DigitalNinja> I'v got a laptop with a radeon mobility 9600. Is there a 3d drive that gives direct rendering in Gutsy?
[04:46] <DanaG> Well, leave it in a loop and go around twiddling various sliders and switches.  That's about the best I can think of doing.
[04:46] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, oh you never installed it through synaptic?
[04:46] <tigran> Nyle: Google came through, found the answer
[04:46] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, ok.. sudo aptitude update
[04:46] <docgnome> DanaG: done that, unfortunatly
[04:46] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, then try again in firefox
[04:46] <bloony> Clearzen: installing now..
[04:47] <DanaG> Hmm, I don't know what else to do.
[04:47] <Clearzen> bloony: After that try to configure again
[04:47] <bloony> Clearzen: that worked :)
[04:47] <Clearzen> bloony: sweet
[04:47] <rowdy> hi, I just finished installing gutsy on compaq presario v5000. everything works great except when booting, there is no boot splash..the screen is completely blank until X starts
[04:47] <Clearzen> bloony: Source can be a pain. That's why I love apt
[04:47] <bloony> Clearzen: sweet ass.. thanks alot :)
[04:47] <Clearzen> !botsnack
[04:47] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:47] <rowdy> when I press ctrl+alt+F8 i see stuff happening
[04:48] <Clearzen> bloony: np
[04:48] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: still nothing, trying synaptic.
[04:48]  * DanaG uses compiz-fusion with the snow plugins.
[04:48] <bloony> Clearzen: yupp.. and thats why I dropped linux 7 years ago..
[04:48] <rowdy> any idea how to get boot splash to show
[04:48] <bloony> Clearzen: but now Im back :)
[04:48] <DanaG> Using icons of "up" and "down" and "back" and "forward", with Rotate off, is great fun.
[04:48] <Scunizi> Would there be any problems using my Dapper /home instead of the seperate one I created for Gutsy?
[04:48] <DanaG> It's like Dance-Dance Revolution (to me, DDR is still RAM) gone loopy/crazy.
[04:49] <dispraekailo> Will someone help please, I upgraded to gutsy and a ton of my packages reverted to EDGY counterparts..
[04:49] <Clearzen> bloony: From what I hear it's made quite a few usability improvements
[04:49] <DanaG> But turn down number of flakes to 500 or so.
[04:49] <dispraekailo> I can't get the new versions, even when I completely remove the package and install it fresh
[04:49] <dispraekailo> And it says I have the version specified on packages.ubuntu
[04:49] <bloony> Clearzen: yupp.. its possible to actualy use the programs now.. not just mess around trying to set em up
[04:50] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: All fixed now.  Thanks a lot.
[04:50] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, great.. np
[04:50] <Ebiggs> chowmeined: So it was because I had 32-bit leftovers that it wouldn't work?
[04:50] <chowmeined> Ebiggs, yes
[04:51] <voidmage-away> I upgraded an edgy box to feisty and now the booting hangs on "waiting for root filesystem"
[04:51] <kuzmaster> !foo
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <voidmage-away> What's going on and how can I fixit?
[04:52] <kuzmaster> !wireless
[04:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:52] <qwerty121> hi all! how can i remove the icons of the mounted filesystems from the desktop?
[04:52] <IcemanV9> Scunizi: if your /home is a separate partition, then it is no problem for Gutsy to use "Dapper" /home
[04:52] <kuzmaster> !graphics
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <kuzmaster> !graphics cards
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics cards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <kuzmaster> !graphics card
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics card - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <qwerty121> wtf?
[04:53] <kuzmaster> !compiz fusion
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <qwerty121> damn bot
[04:53] <kuzmaster> ¬_¬ yes
[04:53] <CoasterMaster> !botabuse | kuzmaster
[04:53] <ubotu> kuzmaster: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:54] <IcemanV9> kuzmaster: please use /msg ubotu if you need lots of information from bot
[04:54] <CoasterMaster> !compiz | kuzmaster
[04:54] <ubotu> kuzmaster: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:54] <kuzmaster> ahhhhhh ;) thanks
[04:54] <dispraekailo> HOW do I install unstable releases in gutsy?!
[04:54] <qwerty121> why unstable version? the stable isreleased
[04:54] <dispraekailo> gutsy is installing crap older than feisty counterparts.. for example, the edgy version of anjuta
[04:55] <bloony> Clearzen: and what is a curses library? :p configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[04:55] <dispraekailo> Gutsy DOWNGRADED anjuta, and wont install the new version
[04:55] <qwerty121> hi all! how can i remove the icons of the mounted filesystems from the desktop?
[04:55] <usser> bloony: curses is pseudo gui library for terminals
[04:55] <cdubya> !fonts
[04:55] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:56] <bloony> usser: how do I install it?
[04:56] <usser> bloony: sudo apt-get install libcurses5
[04:56] <detgar> qwerty121: press ALT+F2: gconf editor -> nautilus something -> something about icons on the desktop
[04:56] <kameron> are there any good ssh clients? similar to an ftp client, saves all your most visited addresses, etc
[04:57] <bloony> usser: couldnt find package..
[04:57] <Clearzen> qwerty121: Has anyone answered your question about icons?
[04:57] <m00tpoint> Is it possible to configure Postfix to rewrite the destination domain name in a message before relaying it to its destination server?
[04:57] <qwerty121> Clearzen: detgar has. but can't get it
[04:58] <usser> bloony: libncurses5 sorry
[04:58] <ACKER> hey, my system issued a restart but no too sure what happen. It did it 2 times tonight prob around a hour between each other. Hasent happen with any other os. here is the messages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/43085/ .. thanks to anyone that can help
[04:58] <bloony> usser: hehe ok
[04:58] <Clearzen> qwerty121: I know it's in gconf-editor just hit alt+f2 and type that in
[04:58] <neil_d>  how do I find out the version of a library with a command ?
[04:58] <Clearzen> qwerty121: I can't remeber exactly where right now but I'll find it
[04:58] <bloony> usser: already installed..
[04:58] <detgar> qwerty121: press ALT+F2: gconf-editor -> apps -> nautilus -> desktop -> there's an option called "Volumes Visible" un-check it
[04:58] <usser> bloony: are u trying to compile something?
[04:58] <Clearzen> qwerty121: There you go
[04:58] <RocketRay> helo
[04:58] <bloony> usser: yupp
[04:59] <m00tpoint> ehlo rocket
[04:59] <bloony> usser: alsa utilities
[04:59] <usser> bloony: then libncurses5-dev
[04:59] <m00tpoint> bloony, did you do apt-get install build-essential?
[04:59] <bloony> m00tpoint: yupp
[05:00] <bloony> usser: cant find package again
[05:00] <m00tpoint> Is it possible to configure Postfix to rewrite the destination domain name in a message before relaying it to its destination server?
[05:00] <usser> bloony: huh that one should be right
[05:01] <bloony> usser: oops.. my mistake.. :)
[05:01] <qwerty121> detgar: do i have to reboot to c the changes
[05:01] <Clearzen> qwerty121: I didn't, you shouldn't have to either
[05:01] <bloony> usser: got another error now tho..
[05:02] <usser> bloony: do tell
[05:02] <bloony> usser: hehe yepp: http://www.pastebin.org/6934
[05:03] <pwnt-> is it possible to record Whatever I'm watching in VLC to make it a file.whatever so that I can burn it into a DVD so I can watch it later like the dvd movies?
[05:03] <pwnt-> and is it easy to do so?
[05:03] <qwerty121> Clearzen: not working. seems like i have to reboot. brb
[05:03] <bloony> usser: thats on make... ./configure went fine
[05:04] <Clearzen> bloony: did you configure as root?
[05:04] <bloony> Clearzen: yupp
[05:04] <ferronica> version 0.1.7 of plugin 'azupnpav' failed to install - /usr/share/azureus/pluins/azupnpav/  azupnpav_0.1.7.zip (permission denied)
[05:04] <Clearzen> bloony: did you make as root as well?
[05:04] <bloony> Clearzen: yupp
[05:04] <Six_> Hello
[05:04] <detgar> qwerty121: no you don't.
[05:05] <usser> bloony: this one i dont know :)
[05:05] <bloony> Clearzen: have been in root all time when I compiled three other apps aswell
[05:05] <Six_> Hello? Is anyone there?
[05:05] <bloony> now over to you Clearzen :)
[05:05] <usser> yes theres
[05:05] <bruenig> ferronica, yeah that happens, azureus installs plugins into root owned areas
[05:05] <bloony> "heres Clearzen with the weat.. err debuging"
[05:05] <pwnt-> how can i record what i'm watching in VLC please.... does anybody know? I'm watching a streaming online live video via VLC. and i'd love to record it to some video type of file into my computer...
[05:05] <Six_> wow people who know stuff about linux
[05:06] <qwerty121> Clearzen and detgar: it din't work
[05:06] <bruenig> ferronica, the best way to use azureus honestly is to just get the real one from the, extract it into /opt where it should be and make sure the folder is owned by you
[05:06] <ferronica> bruenig: i have installed manually
[05:06] <noiesmo> pwnt-, under file use the wizard
[05:06] <Clearzen> bloony: I believe for those utils you don't need to make. You would have to read the INSTALL file but when I compiled alsa I did the configure and then sudo make install
[05:06] <ferronica> bruenig: what?
[05:06] <noiesmo> pwnt-, in vlc media player
[05:06] <ferronica> bruenig: I think azureus is installed in home
[05:06] <pwnt-> noiesmo: ok im in vlc media player, now i clicked file then wizard, do i use transcode or what?
[05:07] <bruenig> ferronica, azureus should be in /opt or it should have been there the last time I used it because it isn't fhs compatible. So just install it into /opt and make sure your user has write permissions to it
[05:07] <bloony> Clearzen: hum.. ok.. Im just following what it says on that page I sent you..
[05:07] <detgar> qwerty121: start gcond-editor by pressinng the ALT key and then pressing the F2 key
[05:07] <newguy> hey there can you run compiz-fusion on kde as well as gnome?
[05:07] <bruenig> ferronica, if you don't have permissions to write to it, installing plugins will always fail
[05:07] <usser> newguy: yep
[05:07] <bloony> Clearzen: get the same error when I just do make install tho...
[05:07] <qwerty121> detgar: i did them once
[05:07] <m00tpoint> Is it possible to configure Postfix to rewrite the destination domain name in a message before relaying it to its destination server?
[05:07] <noiesmo> pwnt-, yep
[05:07] <detgar> qwerty121: and you've disabled volumed_visible?
[05:08] <qwerty121> detgar: it worked...dont know ho
[05:08] <Clearzen> bloony: install these files gettext, gettext-devel, glib-gettextize, and libgettextmisc
[05:08] <qwerty121> detgar: thanks, man
[05:08] <bruenig> m00tpoint, stop spamming this channel and ##linux
[05:08] <Clearzen> bloony: Then make clean ./configure && make && sudo make install
[05:08] <detgar> qwerty121: You're welcome =)
[05:08] <bloony> Clearzen: k
[05:09] <pwnt-> noiesmo: whats a good codec i choose, if i want to put them in DVDS like a movie in dvd?
[05:09] <usser> pwnt-: mpeg2
[05:09] <detgar> qwerty121: It still shows up in nautilus (your filebrowser) so you can unmount it that way if you want
[05:09] <usser> pwnt-: big files but good quality
[05:09] <ferronica> bruenig: i have installed from .deb
[05:09] <pwnt-> usser: ok, then "RAW" ?
[05:09] <qwerty121> detgar, yap.
[05:09] <Clearzen> bloony: Also you need the ja-trans package. Then it will work
[05:09] <pwnt-> or ogg
[05:09] <usser> pwnt-: is there xvid or mpeg4 option there
[05:10] <bruenig> ferronica, yeah I just said to not do that, install it manually, azureus is screwed up, the ubuntu package is screwed up too
[05:10] <pwnt-> encapsulotion format that is usser
[05:10] <ferronica> bruenig: from here http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=azureus
[05:10] <pwnt-> usser: no only mpeg ps, mpeg ts, mpeg 1, ogg, raw
[05:10] <bruenig> ferronica, I have told you the solution
[05:10] <usser> pwnt-: go with ogg
[05:11] <bruenig> ferronica, I am not really interested in this stuff. Here is the problem: azureus wants to put a file in a place that only root owns. Solution, make root not own it. Best way to do that, install it yourself into /opt where rational people know it should be and chown everything to your user
[05:11] <bloony> Clearzen: nope..
[05:11] <pwnt-> usser: after clicking finish, the video I was watching online live is gone.. lol
[05:11] <Clearzen> bloony: did it give you the same error
[05:12] <Optimus55> has anyone had experience with ghamachi? it doesnt seem to want to open on my pc. the window appears then closes
[05:12] <usser> pwnt-: yea it probably still playing its just that when recording vlc turns off video by default theres an option somewhere to have it running
[05:12] <bloony> Clearzen: aah.. now it worked
[05:12] <Clearzen> bloony: Word. Enjoy your new driver
[05:12] <bloony> Clearzen: just tried what I did before instead of the line you wrote..
[05:12] <pwnt-> usser: >_< i vant find it
[05:12] <jonfish> Anyone use AWM?
[05:12] <bloony> Clearzen: thank you :D
[05:13] <linuxidiot> jonfish: AWM? what's that?
[05:13] <Clearzen> bloony: np
[05:13] <pwnt-> it didnt even ask me where to save the file
[05:13] <bloony> now I need a reboor
[05:13] <bloony> t
[05:13] <wweasel> Question: I can't figure out for the life of me how to get an X application to run from within a chroot environment. Anyone able to help?
[05:14] <docgnome> how do i restart alsa?
[05:15] <Jimdb> you mean awn, not awm
[05:15] <patbam> i have a bunch of icons which seem to  have disappeared (in firefox for instnace); for that and other reasons i think i might have some issues with my harddrive. is there a way i can scan it to see if it's ok?
[05:15] <Optimus55> anyone here use/used ghamachi?
[05:16] <Clearzen> Is there a faster way than tar/bzip to compress large amounts of data?
[05:16] <Seri> hey i'm super new to linux and i just downloaded ubuntu today....and i'm having trouble playing warcraft...can anyone help me?
[05:17] <wweasel> patbam: That certainly doesn't sound like hard drive corruption to me. However, to check your partitions for errors you'd fsck. That's the file checking that your computer does once every 30 or so mounts.
[05:17] <linuxidiot> Seri: does warcraft run on linux?
[05:17] <Seri> it can if you download wine
[05:17] <Jimdb> or cedega
[05:17] <Centaur5> I have an LTSP client working perfectly and another LTSP box that doesn't boot into X and I can't login via console.  What would cause this?
[05:17] <patbam> wweasel: it's weird, icons are disappearing all over the place -- in firefox, on the desktop...
[05:17] <linuxidiot> Seri: I imagine it would run slower.  Why would anyone want that?
[05:18] <Seri> it doesn't run like an emulator...i've been reading about it and apparently you can tweak it to make it run really well
[05:18] <Jimdb> ppl want it so they aren't trapped in the vendor lock of microsoft
[05:18] <patbam> wweasel: for isntance in pidgin, the icons are missing
[05:18] <Jimdb> seri, it runs so fast you won't notice any slowdown
[05:18] <jonfish> anyone use AWM?
[05:18] <Clearzen> linuxidiot: warcraft runs great in cedega.
[05:18] <Jimdb> jonfish:  you meant AWN
[05:18] <wweasel> patbam: I am stumped. No idea here
[05:18] <jonfish> avant windows manager
[05:18] <Jimdb> avant windows navigator
[05:18] <jonfish> ah yes u are right oops
[05:18] <wweasel> Is anyone here knowledgable about chroot and the x server?  I'd like to run X apps from within a chroot environment.  Is there some way I can restart NetworkManager?
[05:19] <sethk> mgont, be easy to do in python
[05:19] <patbam> wweasel: ok thanks
[05:20] <sethk> CharlesGrn, use kill to stop it, then you can restart it
[05:20] <mgont> sethk: an easy command
[05:20] <n2diy> CharlesGrn: top shows network connections?
[05:20] <Seri> i followed some tutorials to install warcraft but like i said i think i'm missing things and i don't know what i need
[05:20] <sethk> mgont, you can do it with the -exec flag of find
[05:20] <linuxidiot> mgont: find . -name *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' ~/somedir \;
[05:20] <CharlesGrn> Sorry, I meant that NetworkManager says so.
[05:20] <Jimdb> jonfish: i don't know how to reset it to default as there is no option within the program to do that.  but you could try to remove the awn stuff from your .config folder and I think under .gconf folder.
[05:20] <linuxidiot> mgont: or something like that
[05:20] <jonfish> Will I have to reinstall it?
[05:21] <mootpoint> Is it possible to configure Postfix to change the domain in the destination email address for a message<EMAIL_ADDRESS>--><EMAIL_ADDRESS>before relaying it?
[05:21] <madeinbrazil>  noob to Ubuntu question. I would like to know which is the best way to partition drives for a duo boot (Windows & Ubuntu). For example, 1 HD for windows and ubuntu and another HD for files, or...
[05:21] <Jimdb> jonfish:  deleting the config files under ~/.config and ~/.gconf won't force you to reinstall.
[05:21] <Clearzen> mgont: there isn't a single line on a terminal that could be typed although it is doable without hours of work of course. ie use wildcards like mv  /*.mp3 /folder
[05:21] <CharlesGrn> Hmm.. no luck with kill or killall. Still appears to be running.
[05:21] <mgont> clearzen: well that's what i need...lol
[05:22] <kuzmaster> !nvidia
[05:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <zozos> gia sas
[05:22] <zozos> peite ena kalo mircprogram gia to ubuntu;
[05:22] <linuxidiot> Clearzen: the find command can execute command on files that it finds
[05:22] <patbam> hmm this is starting to freak me out. now i can't seem to run apt either: " E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily"  " E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[05:22] <zozos> ;.
[05:22] <patbam> oh
[05:22] <patbam> that was me being dumb please ignore :)
[05:23] <n2diy> CharlesGrn: kill the network in top with the "k" command, followed by "9". Then restart it.
[05:23] <Clearzen> mgont: search with find / -name *.mp3 > file.txt then use a simple loop to read the file and move the items to a central folder
[05:23] <twoshadetod> anyone here use skype full time? I'm considering it as a vonage replacement after seeing some of the hardware they have
[05:23] <linuxidiot> for example, to remove all 'core' dumps, find / -name core -exec /bin/rm -f '{}' \;
[05:24] <CharlesGrn> n2diy: Ah, that worked. Thanks!
[05:24] <n2diy> CharlesGrn: cool, GL.
[05:24] <mgont> clearzen: think i will stick with GUI PAC
[05:25] <Nuked> How do I generate a fluxbox menu?
[05:25] <usser> twoshadetod: better switch to sip protocol
[05:25] <madeinbrazil> any tips as to how I would partition my HD for a new Ubuntu installation? I am currently on Windows and want to set things up in a safe and organized way
[05:25] <usser> twoshadetod: sip devices are standard
[05:26] <Dr_willis> madeinbrazil,  you keeping windows? You just have one HD?
[05:26] <usser> twoshadetod: thats what vonage uses accidently :)
[05:26] <madeinbrazil> 1 HD duo boot
[05:26] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: I would use gparted live cd to prepare the hd.  it has a nice GUI for slicing up the hard drive and resizing it
[05:26] <madeinbrazil> but I am thinking of buying another HD if needed to keep it better organized
[05:26] <twoshadetod> yeah i was thinking about going with jetvoip on someting like that
[05:26] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: that's not necessary
[05:27] <Dr_willis> madeinbrazil,  given how cheap hd's are these days. :) it may be a lot easier to just have a 2nd hd dedicated for linux.
[05:27] <zozos> :(
[05:27] <zozos> grafo mono agglika
[05:27] <zozos> den boro ellinika
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Plus you can always use the space. :)
[05:27] <linuxidiot> I've been dual booting with a singe hard drive ever since I first started
[05:27] <twoshadetod> but i dont wanna set up an asterisk box i rather just buy this skype crap that has the hardware/client that is standalone
[05:27] <madeinbrazil> would unistall of either be simpler with 2 HD?
[05:27] <mootpoint> Or you could be adventurous and run Windows in a virtual machine. ;-)
[05:27] <john83> beryl
[05:27] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: no
[05:27] <john83> !beryl
[05:27] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:27] <Nuked> can anyone tell me what happened to fluxbox-generate_menu?
[05:27] <timob> how do i get the network icon in the notification area to display traffic on my pppoe device?
[05:28] <bloony> hum.. I rebooted and now the graphic card settings is messed up.. I tried to change it before cause it didnt have the right driver.. but now it just wants  to use the vesa drivers.. and I can run in max resolution.. I got a intel gm915 card..
[05:28] <Flynsarmy> what is 'Wish'. It's a program that's taking up like a constnt 25-30% cpu
[05:28] <john83> anybody knows where can i get some informations about how to install the beryl in my ubuntu?
[05:28] <n2diy> timob: use kppp?
[05:28] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: when you split up a hard drive, for example, your windows partition will show up as /dev/hda1 and linux will be /dev/hda2
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Beryl was replaced by compiz-fusion I belive.
[05:29] <usser> twoshadetod: why an asterisk box? just buy a hardware sip phone and setup say an FreeWorldDialup account
[05:29] <timob> n2diy: does that work with gnome?
[05:29] <john83> oh, thnks willis!
[05:29] <timob> !kppp
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <timob> !find kppp
[05:29] <linuxidiot> given how *large* hard drives are these days, I'd say that lends itself quite nicely to using a single hard drive
[05:29] <n2diy> timob: yes, that is all I use with Dapper.
[05:29] <ubotu> Found: kppp
[05:29] <Dr_willis> john83,  and compiz-fusion is allready installed with Gutsy.
[05:29] <madeinbrazil> i heard it was safer to keep Windows on a partition, files on another, Ubuntu on another and swap files as the fourth
[05:29] <twoshadetod> usser, i wasn't even aware it worked like that
[05:29] <john83> really? then how can i start it??
[05:30] <twoshadetod> usser, nice...i'm gonna check out some phones, you use em?
[05:30] <usser> twoshadetod: sure does, this phone supports NAT traversals via STUN
[05:30] <Dr_willis> madeinbrazil,  you normally have a swap partition, and a linux  partition.  a 'file' partition - may be handy. deopending on what you are doing
[05:30] <usser> twoshadetod: http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=39
[05:30] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[05:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:30] <timob> n2diy: too kde for my liking :)
[05:30] <john83> !compiz
[05:30] <usser> twoshadetod: no but im considering it
[05:30] <Nuked> !fluxbox
[05:30] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[05:30] <Dr_willis> john83,  be sure you got the right/3d/ drivers for your video card  for one thing. :)
[05:30] <Clearzen> I've heard ubuntu is coming out with a mobile version. Does anyone know when that is going to happen?
[05:30] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: if you are really worried about keeping your windows box safe - if you have a spare box for experiment - I'd reccomend just using it.  I've never liked dual booting.
[05:31] <n2diy> timob: oh well!! :)
[05:31] <john83> oh~ i got it!! thnks a lot!! man!
[05:31] <twoshadetod> usser, phone looks decent for an office phone, so this has a client built in? I can just feed an open ethernet into it after configuring it and i'm good to go?
[05:31] <madeinbrazil> so ths 4 partitions would be nicer to have? I have many important files, work on this desktop and wanted to keep things as safe and organized as possible. I have 120GB HD and using about 90GB already
[05:31] <linuxidiot> Clearzen: "mobile" version - like for a usb stick?
[05:31] <n2diy> timob: something else is out there, gppp?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> Clearzen,  im not even sure what a 'mobile version' would mean. :)
[05:31] <usser> twoshadetod: yes u just the way u'd configure a soft phone
[05:31] <Clearzen> I mean for cell phoness
[05:31] <Dr_willis> madeinbrazil,  if you have imporntant things.. :) well it pays to have backups.
[05:31] <LycanNyc> !grub
[05:31] <Clearzen> Or "smart phones" whatever you want to call them
[05:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:32] <Nuked> Dr_willis, I am terribly sorry to inconvenience you, but I recently installed fluxbox and I have no way of generating a menu. Could you perhaps know of a way I can do so short of manually creating one?
[05:32] <bloony> hum.. I rebooted and now the graphic card settings is messed up.. I tried to change it before cause it didnt have the right driver.. but now it just wants  to use the vesa drivers.. and I can run in max resolution.. I got a intel gm915 card..
[05:32] <anysolutions> hi How can i make a user with no sudo rights to use minicom ? Simple change the  minicom binary file attributes?
[05:32] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: let's put it this way... if you really are just starting out... there will be many opportunuties for you to hose your whole system
[05:32] <Clearzen> like this https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  i  thought you just manually made them. let me check my fluxbox install
[05:32] <clever> !math
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about math - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <timob> n2diy: there is gnome-ppp ... maybe worth a look ... but i dont want a dialer just the little blinking lights.... used to be able configure that when it was a panel applet rather than a notification area icon
[05:33] <patbam> i'm getting all kinds of scary messages :( ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode:  146 Minor opcode:  3 Resource id:  0x0 Failed to open device
[05:33] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: having critical files on that system that your fooling around on increases likelyhood of loosing those files
[05:33] <patbam> can anybody thro me a bone?
[05:33] <Nuked> patbam, opera?
[05:33]  * zobf throws patbam a bone.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Nuked,   I just went to install   fbdesk fbpager fluxbox fluxconf --> and it ADDED the 'menu' package i notice.
[05:34] <usser> patbam: these are safe to ignore
[05:34] <Dr_willis> !info menu
[05:34] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.34 (gutsy), package size 398 kB, installed size 1760 kB
[05:34] <clever> patbam: ' BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 158 Major opcode'.... is harmless
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  perhaps you need the menu package3
[05:34] <n2diy> timob: kppp provides that functionality, I don't about gnome-ppp.
[05:34] <madeinbrazil> linuxidiot: very cool, thanks for the info. I'll keep thinking. Maybe 2 HDs would be best. If the system gets screwed up all files are kept in the second HD so would just need to reboot whichever system and back to normal
[05:34] <Nuked> Dr_willis, I installed that and I still have no menu
[05:34] <clever> patbam the libjvm sounds like java is simply dead(java applets wont work)
[05:34] <Nuked> Dr_willis, Im gonna check just to make sure
[05:34] <clever> harmless if you dont need java
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  in the past. i just manually make a fluxbox menu that has the few entries i need. :)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  installing the thing now
[05:35] <patbam> something is seriously wrong with my system
[05:35] <clever> patbam: what part of it?
[05:35] <zobf> patbam: Are you running Windows?
[05:35] <patbam> barely anything is working: firefox shows only a blank system
[05:35] <Nuked> Dr_willis, Its the only way to get a worthwhile fluxbox menu
[05:35] <patbam> zobf: wtf?
[05:35] <timob> n2diy: wow i really should look first .... there is an applet in the "add to panel" dialog ....
[05:35] <patbam> things don't save (tho i have several gigs left)
[05:35] <Nuked> patbam, chill out
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  depends on your needs. :) i wanted a minimal menu
[05:36] <patbam> Nuked: i'm chilled. like white wine.
[05:36] <n2diy> timob: are you a newbie? the cool thing about linux is there are two ways to do anything, and five programs to do it. :)
[05:37] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: if grub ever gets corrupted, have your xp install disk handy to restore the boot sector
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  I got NO right click menu at all. :) wonder what gives with that
[05:37] <Nuked> Dr_willis, I have the exact same problem
[05:37] <madeinbrazil> linuxidiot: thanks for the help! :)
[05:38] <boontoo> hello
[05:38] <m00tpoint> I think you guys wore out that right click menu ...
[05:38] <linuxidiot> madeinbrazil: good luck.
[05:38] <IcemanV9> what's the command to restart gnome-panel?
[05:38] <timob> n2diy: no not a newbie....  thats right ... when the are nicely package its really cool .... so u can easily try them out
[05:38] <Nuked> Dr_willis, apparently sudo update-menus is supposed to take care of it... ill logout and see
[05:38] <linuxidiot> IcemanV9: gnome-panel
[05:38] <boontoo> im having troubles with my ubuntu, my login screen is fine but asoon as i log in everything goes to the craps, when i log in in safemode however its fine any ideas?
[05:38] <lgc> linuxidiot, do you happen to know if the Xp *restore* disk can also do that without doing away with my partitions? (My dell came in with just that one).
[05:39] <Fryguy--> how can I change my set of mouse cursor
[05:39] <m00tpoint> lgc -- you could boot from a gparted CD also.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> lgc,  ive seebn some restore disks automaticially repartition the drives,, and some other companies dont. :( Its best to be VERy carefull with them
[05:39] <boontoo> im having troubles with my ubuntu, my login screen is fine but asoon as i log in everything goes to the craps, when i log in in safemode however its fine any ideas?
[05:39] <linuxidiot> lgc: it won't touch the partitions, just remove grub.  that advice is for those who just want to have their system boot automatically to windows again
[05:40] <Tidus> lgc, most dell xp restore disks are standard xp install disks
[05:40] <DerangedDingo> boontoo: are you using any compositors? Beryl, Compiz?
[05:40] <linuxidiot> lgc: some people get into it and they wonder how to remove grub.  using the windows install disk the easiest way I know
[05:40] <n2diy> timob: I've been playing with linux for 8 years, and it is as much fun as I had with my VIC-20.
[05:40] <snowglobe> how do i restart the sound system in 7.10?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> n2diy,  i still have a vic-20 :)
[05:40] <boontoo> DerangedDingo: i was using compiz but unfortunatly i uninstalled it but perhaps incorrectly so
[05:41] <linuxidiot> lgc: the partitions could still be accessed with a live linux cd
[05:41] <DerangedDingo> boontoo: i don't know how to fix your problem... i'm not even running Gutsy right now, I was just hoping it might be useful information for someone else
[05:41] <Jordan_U> boontoo: How did you install it?
[05:41] <m00tpoint> LOL @ VIC-20. Been a lot of years since I saw one of those.
[05:41] <n2diy> timob: Roger that, I still have my C-64, and last year I found a TI-99 at a yard sale.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> n2diy,  i gave wasy a ti-99 at my last yardsale. :)
[05:42] <Zombie> n2diy: I still have a Tandy 1000
[05:42] <Zombie> n2diy: I still have a Tandy 1000TL.
[05:42] <m00tpoint> <--- Long-ago TRS-80 "guru."
[05:42] <boontoo> Jordan_U: i did sudo apt-get install xgl compiz-gnome then i added somethings to ~/.Xsession i deleted xsession though now and it still doesnt work properly
[05:42] <Dr_willis> n2diy,  gave away.. :)   lol. had to clean out the garrage
[05:42] <linuxidiot> Zombie: can teh tandy 1000 run linux?
[05:42] <Zombie> I Retrofitted it with a VGA.
[05:42] <lgc> linuxidiot, Tidus, I just want to recover Xp for whatever occasional use I might have, but of course NOT wipe off my precious Ubuntu. But I'm scared something just might go wrong...
[05:42] <Zombie> No.
[05:42] <Zombie> fraid not.
[05:42] <cua0> oh cra
[05:42] <Jordan_U> boontoo: You shouldn't have added anything
[05:42] <boontoo> Jordan_U:  =(
[05:43] <linuxidiot> lgc: are you not able to boot into xp right now?
[05:43] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: have you managed to upgrade yet?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> boontoo: Anything you did for XGL other than installing it was unnecessary, but as long as you undid it that probably isn't the problem
[05:43] <linuxidiot> Zombie: oh... I remember the tandy 1000..I had one.  I think it did run DOS
[05:43] <lgc> linuxidiot, exactly. But I want to recover the ability to dual boot, not to boot linux from a CD.
[05:43] <cua0> anyone know of a program to extract stuffit (*.sit) archives from linux? tar doesn't.
[05:43] <boontoo> Jordan_U: ok so how do i isolate the problem
[05:43] <Jordan_U> riotkittie: Yup, entirely without apt :)
[05:44] <Jordan_U> boontoo: What happens when you log in?
[05:44] <n2diy> Dr_willis: Zombie, roger that.
[05:44] <mohkohn> My battery monitor does not work with the ubuntu live cd. It tells me when I am charging and when I am running on batttery...
[05:44] <spitFIRE> lgc: what's your problem exactly?
[05:44] <linuxidiot> lgc: you need to edit your menu.list file to include windows option.  see /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:44] <mohkohn> but not how much charge I have left or how long till finished charging
[05:44] <Zombie> How ever I have 7 Linux Nodes.
[05:45] <iggyboy> 3
[05:45] <boontoo> Jordan_U: well it logs in and no erros accept everything is black
[05:45] <Jordan_U> riotkittie: Though I now have apt working for the most part ( it still doesn't seem to think that dpkg, apt and some other packages are available so I will have to keep updating them manually
[05:45] <lgc> linuxidiot, spitFIRE it all began when I got a new bigger drive and copied my Windoze on it, along with everything else.
[05:45] <Zombie> 6 Mandriva, one Ubuntu.
[05:45] <cua0> anyone know of a program to extract stuffit (*.sit) archives from linux? tar doesn't.
[05:45] <mohkohn> I have Zenwalk on my hard drive and it seems to have the same problem as with the Ubuntu live cd
[05:45] <boontoo> Jordan_U: then when i trail my mouse over stuff it appears but only while my mouse is over it
[05:45] <sethk> Zombie, ran CP/M, I think
[05:45] <Jordan_U> boontoo: I assume that you have an ATI card ( since you installed XGL ) ?
[05:45] <boontoo> Jordan_U: hehe intel
[05:45] <spitFIRE> lgc: copied windows along with everything else???
[05:45] <mohkohn> http://support.zenwalk.org/index.php?topic=12083.0 details here
[05:45] <Jordan_U> boontoo: Then you don't need or want XGL at all :)
[05:46] <boontoo> Jordan_U: i cant remember how i got compiz working last time
[05:46] <lgc> linuxidiot, I'm afraid it's not so simple. I believe it has something to do with the hard drive's physical ID or some cr*p like that, since Windows is very pesky about such things.
[05:46] <mohkohn> in ubuntu my dmesg gives me this: [  325.872000] set_level status: 0
[05:46] <mohkohn> lots of them
[05:46] <linuxidiot> lgc: so you've essentially uninstalled windows
[05:46] <lgc> spitFIRE, yep. After partitioning and formating.
[05:46] <lgc> linuxidiot, nah!
[05:47] <riotkittie> intel? is it the blacklisted card?
[05:47] <spitFIRE> lgc: linuxidiot is right; all you have to do to enable dual boot (to boot into windows as well) if you are able to boot first into linux is to edit the menu.lst file
[05:47] <Jordan_U> boontoo: It should work by default ( wobbly windows aren't enabled by default but you should have noticed shadows and some subtle effects )
[05:47] <cua0> anyone know of a program to extract stuffit (*.sit) archives from linux? tar doesn't.
[05:47] <lgc> linuxidiot, I can still access it "read-only" from Linux.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> cua0,  im not sure its even doable. Since the way the Mac filesystem works. May want to google for a windows program, and see if it works with wine
[05:48] <boontoo> Jordan_U: ah, well aside from that say that i dont want compiz for the moment, as im playing with some emulation stuff anyway, anyway i can get my poor gnome back to normal?
[05:48] <linuxidiot> lgc: accessing the windows drive is one thing... being able to boot into it is another.  if you are saying you changed hd and just 'cp'ed ' your windows install to another disk... well - that doesn't work
[05:48] <n2diy> ! stuffit
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuffit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <lgc> spitFIRE, I've tried all that. The problem is that I get the dreaded "blue screen".
[05:48] <Fryguy--> how can I change my set of mouse cursors
[05:48] <Jordan_U> boontoo: Remove the XGL package and turn desktop effects off in System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[05:48] <mohkohn> Is there a way to tell which battery I am using?
[05:48] <spitFIRE> when do you get the dreaded BSOD?
[05:48] <lgc> linuxidiot, tell me about it...:).
[05:49] <spitFIRE> lgc: it depends on how you restored this windows installation you are talking about
[05:49] <boontoo> Jordan_U: ok
[05:50] <lgc> linuxidiot, I didn't restore it. I just dd'ed it to the new disk, as I recall.
[05:50] <boontoo> Jordan_U: is there a cmd for turning off desktop effects
[05:50] <spitFIRE> if you restored it using some of these partition recovery blahh...blah... software then it might work (but I have no clue!)
[05:50] <linuxidiot> lgc: if I were you, I'd just make sure all windows files are safe - through in windows install disk, reinstall windows - (be sure to select correct partition) and then throw in a boot floppy to get back to linux to restore grub.  The only problem is that people don't really use boot floppies anymore
[05:50] <linuxidiot> s/through/throw/
[05:50] <ferronica> i have just installed azureus from synaptic, when i try to open it nothing happen :(
[05:50] <lgc> linuxidiot, exactly. I don't even have one.
[05:51] <johnny_> hi folks
[05:51] <spitFIRE> lgc: why dont you understand this as a good sign to chuck windows out once and for all and continue using Linux for everything :D
[05:51] <johnny_> i'm getting some odd messages
[05:51] <johnny_> but i can't resolve dns anymore to look them up
[05:51] <n2diy> ferronica: log out, and back in again?
[05:51] <linuxidiot> lgc: I remember the good old days when kernels fit on a floppy
[05:51] <Jordan_U> boontoo: I don't know where the preference is saved but to do it temporarily you would use "metacity --replace" ( if it gives an error set $DISPLAY with: DISPLAY=":0"
[05:51] <linuxidiot> this is all why I hate dual booting
[05:51] <johnny_> this is directly after a gutsy upgrade  : ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[05:51] <ferronica> n2diy: i did many times
[05:51] <spitFIRE> lgc: I would recommend you recovering the files from the windows drive to a separate medium and then REINSTALL windows
[05:52] <ferronica> n2diy: no effect :(
[05:52] <Ubuntu_Expert> HI all, I have two hard disks one sata and one IDE Ive been having problems when booting up. SOmetimes I have to enter the grub menu and edit root (hd0,0) to root (hd1,0) and vice versa. Why is it so? cant I maintani both hard disks with grub?
[05:52] <spitFIRE> then use a CD to boot into linux and then reinstall grub
[05:52] <zozos> γι
[05:52] <spitFIRE> linuxidiot: I totally agree with you!
[05:52] <linuxidiot> I agree with you!
[05:52] <Flannel> Ubuntu_Expert: That's all set by your BIOS.  GRUB uses the numbers it gets
[05:52] <lgc> spitFIRE, I wish I could do *everything* on Linux, but alas, it's not the case yet. And I really throw up every time I have to use Open Office, for example.
[05:52] <sethk> linuxidiot, you can still fit a binary kernel on a floppy.  You just can't find very many machines with floppy drives
[05:52] <n2diy> ferronica: updatedb?
[05:53] <mitch_> how can you be an Ubuntu Expert when you dont even know the fix for that Ubuntu_Expert
[05:53] <linuxidiot> I just have never used a live CD the way I used to use by boot floppies
[05:53] <Ubuntu_Expert> Flannel, So thats why when I select WIndows using the F8 key I have to edit it :(
[05:53] <Flannel> Ubuntu_Expert: what?
[05:53] <Toma-> Is it a known error for the screen overlay to go to garbage for mplayer after a while?
[05:53] <ferronica> n2diy: what ?
[05:53] <Nuked> Dr_willis, the command I listed earlier generates the menu
[05:53] <n2diy> ferronica: run updatedb in a terminal, and try again.
[05:53] <Ubuntu_Expert> When I had problems with my Grub I sued the F8 key to open the boot menu from the bios to access WIndows
[05:54] <lgc> spitFIRE, it's an MBR issue, I'm sure. Problem is, I cant do 'fixmbr' from a DOS floppy since I don't have one, or access to an USB one.
[05:54] <Nuked> heck, Id add it to ubotu Dr_willis
[05:54] <Flannel> Ubuntu_Expert: Why don't you just put windows in your GRUB menu?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> n2diy: If you havn't remind him to use sudo with updatedb
[05:54] <zozos> gia sas
[05:54] <vleon> is it possible to build a driver on a livecd and use it?
[05:54] <Ubuntu_Expert> Flannel, Did that but it hangs at the starting up portion
[05:54] <spitFIRE> wait it can't be an MBR issue from what I understand
[05:54] <kuzmaster> is it possible to install ubuntu without a bootloader, and just use grub on a cd for that?
[05:54] <n2diy> Jordan_U: Ubuntu will remind him. ;)
[05:55] <ferronica> n2diy: like this "update updatedb"
[05:55] <vleon> if i just build the module and use modprobe will it work?
[05:55] <Ubuntu_Expert> Flannel, I get two errors. Error 13 unrecognized format before Grub
[05:55] <Flannel> kuzmaster: Yes, you'll need the alternate CD (or, I think so)
[05:55] <spitFIRE> lgc: cos' if you are able to boot into linux then its not an MBR issue!!!
[05:55] <johnny_> vleon,  you can if you build it against the system kernel
[05:55] <lgc> spitFIRE, linuxidiot, I can always remount my old drive and use my windows from there (if I use it as external, again, Windoze will give me the blue screen).
[05:55] <mohkohn> acpi -V
[05:55] <Ubuntu_Expert> Flannel, and Error 15 File not found when trying to boot Ubuntu. I use WIndows to use my Tv Tuner. Everythign is running well.
[05:55] <mohkohn>      Thermal 1: ok, 50.0 degrees C
[05:55] <mohkohn>   AC Adapter 1: off-line
[05:55] <bloony> Bah.. I changed the video card driver and now I cant change it back and I can only run 640x480.. I got a intel 915gm chipset
[05:55] <n2diy> ferronica: no, just updatedb
[05:55] <johnny_> so.. that would be odd that ping can't work even as root
[05:55] <spitFIRE> lgc: remount your old drive?
[05:56] <mohkohn> plugged in and when unplugged "off-line"
[05:56] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | bloony
[05:56] <ubotu> bloony: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[05:56] <vleon> johnny_ ummm what? i mean doesnt everything builds against the kernel?
[05:56] <spitFIRE> lgc: use it as external? please explain; dont seem to understand your situation well
[05:56] <linuxidiot> lgc: so you've *tried* reconnecting your old hard drive (as master I assume) - and it gave you BSOD?
[05:56] <spitFIRE> lgc: sorry for that!
[05:56] <lgc> spitFIRE, you got a point there, but I'm not quite sure of that.
[05:56] <ferronica> n2diy: updatedb: fatal error: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[05:56] <Ubuntu_Expert> mitch_, The name was just a joke to make some of my other friends convert to Ubuntu :D
[05:56] <Flannel> kuzmaster: Desktop CD might have changed to allow it as of gutsy, but at least on feisty, the desktop cant, only the alternate
[05:56] <zozos> ss
[05:56] <n2diy> ferronica: ok, my bad, try sudo updatedb
[05:56] <lgc> spitFIRE, what is BSOD?
[05:56] <miked595> does ayone know how to get the suspend working correctly on gutsy?
[05:56] <linuxidiot> lgc: bluse screen of death
[05:57] <boontoo> Jordan_U: ok all done im gona boot into non safe mode now brb
[05:57] <spitFIRE> lgc: Blue Screen Of Death
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  allready got it going. :) heh heh. I used vnc. so i dident have to reboot.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Nuked,  the menu it made has a few.. oddities however.
[05:57] <johnny_> oops.. lost the question
[05:57] <ferronica> n2diy: done
[05:57] <Dr_willis> well nuight all.
[05:57] <Nuked> Dr_willis, it definitely has
[05:57] <ferronica> n2diy: but no output
[05:57] <ferronica> n2diy: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo updatedb
[05:57] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$
[05:57] <spitFIRE> lgc: from what I understand you can't just copy a windows installation to the other that too on another hard drive!
[05:58] <hotmonkeyluv> is there a way that I can check an NTFS filesystem under linux (like fsck.ntfs)?
[05:58] <n2diy> ferronica: logout out, and then log back in, and see if it works?
[05:58] <spitFIRE> linuxidiot: correct me if I'm wrong!
[05:58] <boontoo> Jordan_U: think it worked however it says im not running a windows manager
[05:58] <Jordan_U> ferronica: It should have taken a while
[05:58] <linuxidiot> spitFIRE: that's what astonishes me that he tried to do that
[05:58] <ferronica> ok
[05:58] <guru> i really hate it when i create an image of a game to install it at a later point in time (when it is supported in cedega) only to realize i can't find the image i created and i have no idea where the original cd got archived to
[05:58] <Jordan_U> boontoo: That command should *start* the window manager...
[05:58] <ferronica> n2diy: Jordan_U: okay
[05:58] <Jordan_U> boontoo: Ahh, nvm, try without the --replace
[05:59] <ferronica> n2diy: Jordan_U: let me restart system
[05:59] <lgc> linuxidiot, thanks. When I reinstall the old drive, Windoze will run smoothly and also my Dapper (and I do that every now and then to update). When I use the old drive as external (USB) then Windoze will throw me the "BSOD" and Linux will run if I tweak 'menu.lst'.
[05:59] <boontoo> Jordan_U: well maybe i uninstalled itand what command?
[05:59] <spitFIRE> lgc: why dont you keep your new hard drive as external and continue using linux on that while keeping windows on the old drive?
[05:59] <kuzmaster> what is the difference between the live cd and the alternative disk? apart from the text based installer
[05:59] <linuxidiot> spitFIRE: I don't entirely understand the dd command, but I don't *think* it can work that way to move a widnows isntall
[05:59] <docgnome> is there not a beryl package for gusty?
[05:59] <boontoo> eh jordan bailed
[05:59] <guru> linuxidiot: sure it can
[05:59] <lgc> spitFIRE, 'cuz I hate the fuss!
[05:59] <Ubuntu_Expert> Here is my Menu.lst and fdisk -l details if anyone could help me http://pastebin.com/m1c3ad5b4
[05:59] <erichj> what would you need beryl for?
[05:59] <boontoo> does anyone know how to run start windows manager
[05:59] <spitFIRE> lgc: what's the fuss there?
[06:00] <erichj> it merged back with compiz to form compiz-fusion
[06:00] <linuxidiot> lgc: I don't think you can expect windows to boot off usb
[06:00] <inversekinetix> why can't i delete icons from the applications menu in  gutsy
[06:00] <lgc> spitFIRE, of having 2 drives in order to dual-boot.
[06:00] <mike3_> so i think i just killed my install. I was doing updates via update-manager. It was doing libc6 and it froze up so I did a restart, now just as the progress bar starts, it all of a sudden just goes to a blank screen with a flashing curos at the top left and nothing. no loading nothing. Can somebody please be of some assistance
[06:00] <spitFIRE> lgc: hmmm...
[06:00] <lgc> linuxidiot, all I expect is Windows to boot from my new drive!
[06:00] <erichj> linuxidiot, I have XP booting from my old ipod video
[06:00] <guru> mike3_: can you reboot into single user mode?
[06:01] <spitFIRE> linuxidiot: I dont seem to recollect saying to use dd command for moving a windows installation
[06:01] <johnny_> windows doesn't like being moved
[06:01] <lgc> spitFIRE, what is the correct way to "migrate" Windoze from on HDD to another?
[06:01] <mike3_> guru, are we talking about recovery mode?
[06:01] <johnny_> reinstall it :)
[06:01] <linuxidiot> spitFIRE: lgc said he did
[06:01] <johnny_> so.. somebody
[06:01] <guru> mike3_: actually i was referring to single user mode as in init 2 but that may work as well
[06:01] <spitFIRE> linuxidiot: sorry! I overlooked that
[06:01] <linuxidiot> lgc: I agree with johnny_ here.
[06:02] <mike3_> guru, well recovery mode just freezes too. How do I boot to single user mode?
[06:02] <stanmancan132> I had WinXP Pro installed, and i installed Ubuntu 7.10 on another partition so that I'm dual booting. I want to un-install Ubuntu now so the drive is Windows only (i'll be installing ubuntu on a different computer completely)... How do I do this and still have my computer boot into windows??
[06:02] <guru> mike3_: pass single as a kernel parameter
[06:02] <Flannel> stanmancan132: you need your windows CD, you fixmbr and put the windows bootloader back into the MBR
[06:02] <spitFIRE> lgc: you can use migration tools that CLAIM at least on their website that they can help you
[06:02] <guru> mike3_: i doubt that will work though. it sounds like your libc is clobbered
[06:02] <mike3_> guru, could you guide me?
[06:03] <johnny_> ugghz
[06:03] <mike3_> guru, okay which means what now?
[06:03] <esr> My GNOME toolbar Applications pulldown menu got mangled by a bug in Gutsy Tribe 5.  Is there some way I can restore that menu to its default?
[06:03] <lgc> spitFIRE, like which ones?
[06:03] <johnny_> esr, you could remove it
[06:03] <johnny_> and add it back?
[06:03] <vleon> so how is it done? if i want to build a driver under a livecd and load it, i just use regular make, make install and then modprobe it?
[06:03] <guru> mike3_: i ran into an issue upgrading libc once (through no fault of apt but rather from my own inexperience) and the only way i could resolve it was to re-install the base system without formatting
[06:04] <esr> johnny_: Remove it how?
[06:04] <Flannel> vleon: yep
[06:04] <johnny_> vleon, it might not include the src you need
[06:04] <spitFIRE> lgc: google, and read the reviews on forums for the softwares that you find! I have no clue as to which one you can safely use!
[06:04] <bullgard4> My applet 'CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor' shows that the clock frequency of my Intel M processor is 600 Mhz most of the time. Why is there no powernowd process?
[06:04] <johnny_> esr,  right click .. hit remove?
[06:04] <mike3_> guru, how do I do that? How do I go about just reinstalling the base system?
[06:04] <ompaul> esr, care to do a dist upgrade and get it to production
[06:04] <lgc> spitFIRE, OK.
[06:04] <Flannel> vleon: liveCD is a normal linux system, only without the hard drive
[06:04] <johnny_> i thought powernow was for amd systems
[06:04] <ferronica> same problem :(
[06:04] <vleon> will an wlan driver work?
[06:04] <linuxidiot> g'night all
[06:04] <esr> ompaul: I actually did that.  Problem didn't go away.
[06:04] <johnny_> if it doensn't include the build headers, it might not work
[06:05] <johnny_> and enough of the srcs to build again
[06:05] <spitFIRE> lgc: read this - http://ask-leo.com/can_i_move_windows_from_one_hard_drive_to_another.html
[06:05] <johnny_> but that's up to the cds
[06:05] <guru> mike3_: i booted using a live cd (iirc i booted from a freebsd disc), mounted my root drive, then popped in my debian cd and went through the base install
[06:05] <vleon> Flannel thanx i know that and even more, im actually using this live to install gentoo again :P
[06:05] <stanmancan132> Flannel: So do I fix the MBR, and then format the partition again???
[06:05] <johnny_> gentoo is my main distro
[06:05] <m1k3> I need help I need to install ncurses (I've tried sudo aptitude install ncurses but there are no packages found) can someone help me find this ncurses?
[06:05] <johnny_> apt-cache search ?
[06:05] <Flannel> stanmancan132: The linux partition?  Yeah, or do whatever else you want with it.
[06:05] <guru> m1k3: apt-cache search ncurses
[06:05] <mike3_> guru, fantastic...
[06:05] <m1k3> ok
[06:05] <johnny_> i like --names-only
[06:06] <esr> johnny_: Are you trying to suggest I rtemove the Applications pulldown through the GUI?  And if so, how do I reinstall a clean copy.
[06:06] <esr> ?
[06:06] <johnny_> then add it back
[06:06] <spitFIRE> lgc: read this as well - http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/05/22/one-of-the-best-hdd-utilities-is-free
[06:06] <johnny_> via the panel gui
[06:06] <ompaul> esr, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel and sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel-data
[06:06] <slain> hi
[06:06] <mike3_> guru, is there any other way.. If I could get to a console couldn't I just reinstall libc6 from apt-get?
[06:06] <slain> when I do a lspci, I see my network card
[06:06] <johnny_> debian has a lot of odd package names
[06:06] <esr> ompaul: *That* sounds like the right thinh to try.
[06:06] <slain> cards
[06:06] <ompaul> esr, if that fails then, I have one other plan (a pain but a plan)
[06:07] <johnny_> uggh..
[06:07] <slain> how do I tell which card is assigned to eth0 and which one is assigned to eth1
[06:07] <guru> mike3_: yes you could and there are statically linked standard utilities (e.g., mount, mv, ls, etc) in either /bin or /sbin that don't rely on libc
[06:07] <johnny_> so.. where does ubuntu store it's iptables saved rules?
[06:07] <spitFIRE> lgc: try also for software from your HDD manufacturer
[06:07] <esr> Trying your recipe now, ompaul.
[06:07] <n2diy> slain: ifconfig
[06:07] <jrib> !iptables > johnny_ (read the private message from ubotu)