[15:17] <bazhang> anton, lets keep this in channel (not in PM)
[15:17] <anton> okey
[15:17] <anton> ok ill check that out
[15:18] <kromium> hi I am installing ubuntu using alternate install CD. how to chnage resolution of installer using this CD?
[15:19] <kromium> there is no such option on the main menu
[15:19] <joaopinto> you will need to use the vga=mode
[15:19] <joaopinto> on the boot options
[15:19] <bazhang> kromium, resolution? it is ncurses based so will not have a live cd look to it
[15:19] <anton> Thats how my alsamixer looks like: http://www.speedyshare.com/447791257.html
[15:20] <joaopinto> bazhang, I guess he is refering to the text mode resolution, aka video mode
[15:20] <bazhang> anton, is anything muted?
[15:20] <spionlala> FRAME BUFFER RESOLUTION :P
[15:20] <anton> Not that i can see
[15:20] <acke_> hey guys, in gnome usb is mounted with gnome-volume-manager, how is that done in kde?
[15:20] <anton> But if Card means soundcard, that isnt the right one
[15:20] <bazhang> anton, next step is to /join #alsa and follow the steps in the topic there
[15:20] <anton> ok thanks
[15:20] <joaopinto> acke_, try asking on #kubuntu :P
[15:21] <_2> anyone know of a linux distro that isn't compiled against libselinux1 ?
[15:21] <joaopinto> !ot | _2
[15:21] <joaopinto> _2, actually you should consider asking on #Linux
[15:21] <natnayr89> hi there, im having a problem with my computer, i think i accidentally changed the /usr folder and recursive all the permissions to chmod 777. Alot of my ubuntu's features and functions are now not working, especially when i cannot mount an external HD. Is there a way to revert to the original?
[15:22] <_2> joaopinto thank you.
[15:22] <_2> now anyone know of one ?
[15:22] <kromium> bazhang: yes but this is laptop and when I start installer screen is distorted
[15:22] <joaopinto> _2, please move your question to an appropriate channel, thanks
[15:22] <kromium> bazhang: hence I thought changing resolution may fix this problem
[15:23] <_2> joaopinto ban me!
[15:23] <natnayr89> hi there, im having a problem with my computer, i think i accidentally changed the /usr folder and recursive all the permissions to chmod 777. Alot of my ubuntu's features and functions are now not working, especially when i cannot mount an external HD. Is there a way to revert to the original?
[15:24] <joaopinto> natnayr89, you should reinstall or restore from a backup
[15:24] <joaopinto> nat2610, a recursive chmod on a system di rcan't be easily rollled back
[15:24] <joaopinto> ops, natnayr89
[15:24] <natnayr89> joapinto: will reinstall cause me to delete my /var and /home folder?
[15:24] <erUSUL> natnayr89: i would backup /home and clone package selections then reinstall and restore backup
[15:24] <erUSUL> !clone | natnayr89
[15:25] <joaopinto> natnayr89, /var yes, /home will not, if you select not to format the installation partition, or if you have created a specific part for it already
[15:26] <joaopinto> natnayr89, chmodding a system dir is always a bad thing to do :\
[15:27] <wang> hello,everybody
[15:27] <Jeaton> hello wang
[15:27] <ohness> natnayr89 -> so take good notes -- put it in your sysadmin notebook of lessons learned
[15:28] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my PC with MSI ATI R4650 and my desktop looks like a crazy colorful party. What should I do?
[15:28] <wang> I am a new user in ubuntu.just for four days
[15:28] <RogerB> he / she try to set permissions so wouldn't need root to do anything , lol, epic fail
[15:28] <natnayr89> alright thanks then, i'll know now, i did that earlier by accident cause i neeeded to change my /var/www folder and accidently typed in /usr
[15:28] <Jeaton> congrats, wang
[15:28] <natnayr89> if i ever typed in the same mistake, is there a immediate way to revert?
[15:28] <Hans-Martin> hi, I've been experiencing problems with kmediafactory for a long time, and now I finally got around and compiled 0.5.2-4 and that version works again. The ubuntu package which does not work is 0.5.2-0. Who can be bugged to include a working version into the binary repository?
[15:28] <wang> I am a student.
[15:28] <erUSUL> NicEXE: what graphic card did you have prior to the upgrade?
[15:28] <joaopinto> natnayr89, no
[15:28] <natnayr89> joaopinto: ok thanks then
[15:29] <natnayr89> great help, thanks
[15:29] <ohness> wang -> okay, now is a good time to do some linux tutorials
[15:29] <wang> yeah
[15:29] <joaopinto> Hans-Martin, have you filed a bug report about it ?
[15:29] <bazhang> !rute | wang
[15:29] <wang> updating my system now.
[15:29] <MarcN> From one ubuntu/intrepid laptop I can plug in my hp printer/scanner and xsane works; another ubuntu/intrepid fails to find the scanner.  Any idea how to debug?
[15:29] <ohness> wang a good book is by craig sobell  practical guide to ubuntu
[15:30] <NicEXE> erUSUL: I was using my internal graphics (intel GMA950 i believe) provided by my motherboard
[15:30] <Hans-Martin> joaopinto: others have (in May already)
[15:30] <Hans-Martin> joaopinto: I'd have to find the launchpad bug number
[15:30] <erUSUL> NicEXE: did you installed the ati drivers from System>Admin>Hardware drivers ?
[15:31] <ohness> MarcN -> look into using udev rules,  look around /etc/udev/rules.d   for identifying your devices
[15:31] <joaopinto> Hans-Martin, the proper way is to add the info to those bug reports, "this bug is fixed on version x.y.x",
[15:31] <NicEXE> I am trying to but it is still searching for available drivers
[15:32] <Hans-Martin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmediafactory/+bug/236806 already says which version fixes the problem - that was in June...
[15:32] <Hans-Martin> joaopinto: But I will add an entry confirimg the observation, maybe it helps...
[15:33] <NicEXE> erUSUL: I am trying to but it is still searching for available drivers
[15:33] <wang> I hava a problem:when I use Mplayer to open *.avi,it has no problem,but to open *.rmvb or *.rm,there only hav voice,not graphics
[15:33] <erUSUL> NicEXE: yep i read it... maybe you can try a more "manual" way...
[15:33] <erUSUL> !ati | NicEXE
[15:34] <bazhang> wang, do you have all the codecs installed? have you tried other players such as vlc?
[15:34] <Hans-Martin> wang: it's quite possible that the video codec needed to play the file is not present.
[15:34] <djbeenie> looking for the equivalent of WinSCP for Ubuntu?
[15:34] <wang> I search it by google,
[15:35] <erUSUL> djbeenie: scp
[15:35] <slashme> !vnc
[15:35] <slashme> quit
[15:35] <wang> as it tell me how to do,but I can't find where hava wrong
[15:35] <bazhang> wang, no need; install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:35] <djbeenie> erUSUL, ty!
[15:35] <wang> I will be useful?
[15:35] <erUSUL> djbeenie: np!
[15:36] <bazhang> wang sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:36] <wang> OK, i try
[15:36] <bazhang> wang, the first package I always install :)
[15:36] <anton> bazhang: Those alsa guys didnt help me at all.. they just say ubuntu sucks... -.-
[15:36] <bazhang> anton, just a second I will join you in there
[15:37] <anton> okey thanks
[15:37] <arvind_khadri> anton, may i know what happened?
[15:37] <wang> I try it.
[15:37] <Jeaton> what's bundled in the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:37] <g0r8y> Hi there, is anyone familiar with the program "915resolution" i have an asus eeepc and im trying to create a virtual 1024x768 resolution but not having any joy
[15:37] <wang> just wait a moment
[15:37] <Schuenemann> where do I get the kernel sources? I found in the forums I had to install the linux-tree package, but it seems it does not exist anymore
[15:37] <RogerB> anton you might have sound muted, my sound blaster sometimes after install is muted and i have to go to preferences to have the right volume meter to show up to adjust it
[15:38] <ohness> Jeaton -> you can apt-cache search packagnamehere
[15:38] <wang> I am a student from china.my english is poor.
[15:38] <Jeaton> ok, thanks
[15:38] <arvind_khadri> Jeaton, all the packages that cant be shipped directly... basically the codecs for restricted format
[15:38] <Schuenemann> wang, there is #ubuntu-zh
[15:38] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: linux-source
[15:38] <wang> thanks!
[15:38] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, do I need that package or just the headers will do?
[15:39] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: what are you trying to do ?
[15:39] <wang> lots of student use ubuntu at my school
[15:39] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, rebuild kernel
[15:39] <kjs> ]€#¢
[15:39] <mint_> hi guys, i hyave a problem, i'm trying to use a certificate with java, but it doesn't appear on the moment of select it, but i have already imported it to java and firefox, what can i do?
[15:39] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: you neeed the sources
[15:39] <wang> lots of students use ubuntu at my school
[15:39] <bazhang> wang, for china there is #ubuntu-cn
[15:39] <erUSUL> !kernel | Schuenemann
[15:39] <wang> I know it.
[15:39] <kjs> what is the equiv of the alt key in a mac
[15:39] <kjs> on a mac
[15:39] <wang> I had
[15:39] <kjs> dd
[15:39] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, ok... and then it will end up at /usr/src/, right?
[15:40] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: yep
[15:40] <Schuenemann> erUSUL, thanks
[15:40] <erUSUL> Schuenemann: no problem
[15:40] <bazhang> kjs, dont use the enter key after one word
[15:40] <kjs> bazhang: hving some problems here with backspace damn mac
[15:41] <spionlala> is there anyway to modify the taskbar in gnome so its not possible anymore to move windows under it?
[15:41] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, lock it
[15:42] <lastman> Hi, is it possible to install openoffice 3?
[15:42] <erUSUL> !oo3
[15:42] <arvind_khadri> lastman, ya ...
[15:42] <bazhang> lastman, from a ppa
[15:42] <spionlala> ofc its locked
[15:42] <utremifasola> o.O
[15:42] <carandraug> lastman: yes. Compile it. Or from ppa
[15:42] <wang> waiting feedback... 302 Found
[15:42] <utremifasola> it is possible!  to install openoffice 3!
[15:42] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, its locked
[15:42] <mint_> any idea of t to o with the certificat?
[15:42] <lastman> ppa?
[15:42] <utremifasola> yes it is!
[15:42] <carandraug> !ppa | lastman
[15:42] <bazhang> !ppa > lastman
[15:42] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, lock to panel
[15:42] <RogerB> !info openoffice
[15:43] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, what do you mean lock to panel?
[15:43] <marnold> lastman, let me grab the url for you
[15:43] <ra> Hey,  What is wrong with emulators and 8.10?  I can't get ZNes, or PCSX to work
[15:43] <severin> hey guys, is there any real channel regarding eeebuntu?
[15:43] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, right click on the icon and choose lock to panel
[15:43] <RogerB> open office is in the synaptic package manager
[15:43] <Schuenemann> ra, why not?
[15:44] <bazhang> ra 64bit?
[15:44] <wang>  waiting feedback... 302 Found..can't useful .this command:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras .
[15:44] <ohness> anyone familiar with ifenslave and bonding? need assist in bonding an eth0 and wifi..  bond0 must use static? how about eth0 and wlan0 ?
[15:44] <carandraug> RogerB: not openoffice 3
[15:44] <ra> Schuenemann, bazhang:  Not 64 bit,  Unsure, I watched a tutorial on Youtube, but it didn't work.  Some of the config menus will not even open
[15:44] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, umm what icon?? the two "icons" (show desktop,desktop-switcher) are both locked
[15:44] <balkian> !info openoffice.org > RogerB
[15:44] <marnold> lastman, https://edge.launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[15:44] <bazhang> ra how did you install it
[15:44] <Schuenemann> ra
[15:45] <Schuenemann> ra, how did you install zsnes
[15:45] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, what do you want?
[15:45] <ra> bazhang, Schuenenmann: Synaptic
[15:45] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, and the window bar is also locked
[15:45] <anton_> what is it&
[15:45] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, as i said i dont want to be able to move windows down out of my desktop
[15:45] <spionlala> i want them to stop when they the bottom bar
[15:45] <anton_> omg
[15:45] <spionlala> when they *hit
[15:46] <Schuenemann> ra, and what is happening?
[15:46] <NicEXE> I clicked activate to activate a driver for my MSI ATI GPU but a dialog window says downloading and installing driver with %0 progress for about 10 minutes
[15:46] <bazhang> severin, there is the /msg ubottu factoid ; I tend to get info from wiki at www.eeeuser.com (third party though)
[15:46] <ra> schuenemann: ZNess will not even launch, Installed Znes through Synaptic
[15:46] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, thats compiz
[15:47] <Schuenemann> ra, run it using the console to see any error message
[15:47] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, same problem without compiz
[15:47] <ra> Schuenenmann: PCSX will launch, but I can't configure the display settings and it overall does not work like in Ubuntu 8.04
[15:47] <spionlala> arvind_khadri, snapping windows doesnt help
[15:48] <arvind_khadri> spionlala, hmm... i dont know much .. sorry :)
[15:48] <Schuenemann> ra, don't know about pcsx... never used it
[15:48] <spionlala> ok thx anyway ;)
[15:49] <ohness> anyone familiar with ifenslave and bonding? need assist in bonding an eth0 and wifi..  bond0 must use static? how about eth0 and wlan0 ?
[15:49] <Diiphantom> anywhere where i can get help with virtualbox OSE?
[15:50] <bazhang> Diiphantom, ask and if someone knows they will answer
[15:50] <marnold> ra what arch are you on
[15:51] <Diiphantom> bazhang, thank you, well im tring to install vista in virtualbox everythign is fine but when i click start, the windows pops and stays pitchblack
[15:51] <marnold> amd64 sometimes has problems with emulators
[15:51] <Diiphantom> marnold, is that for me? im using intel quad 2 core
[15:51] <bazhang> Diiphantom, any error messages? need to install the guest tools for example?
[15:52] <Diiphantom> nothing
[15:52] <Diiphantom> those are not installed it hink
[15:52] <bazhang> Diiphantom, and you installed the packages for your kernel?
[15:52] <Diiphantom> the virtualbox-ose-guest-tools
[15:52] <Diiphantom> yes,
[15:52] <spionlala> Diiphantom, since amd was the first one to supply 64 enabled cpus 64bit stuff in linux is always called amd64
[15:52] <ohness> Diiphantom -> you have your vista cdrom inserted?
[15:52] <Diiphantom> and an iso
[15:53] <ohness> !who | Diiphantom
[15:53] <marnold>  Diiphantom no someone asked about zsenes
[15:53] <neodemi> im trying to learn to use python, and i installed the diveintopython package, however i cant find it. does anyone know where it puts the files
[15:54] <Diiphantom> ohness,  and an iso
[15:54] <Diiphantom> bazhang, which files for the kernel?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> neodemi, IS that package from our repos?
[15:54] <neodemi> yes
[15:54] <ohness> Diiphantom -> when you start the VM it is like a new pc, so it has to find where to boot things from, like if you have the cdrom inserted in
[15:54] <marnold> neodemi, try sudo dpkg -L diveintopython
[15:55] <Diiphantom> ohness, i had vmware in windows to test ubuntu,
[15:55] <bazhang> Diiphantom, does vista allow running in a vm? iirc certain versions did not
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> neodemi, Synaptic can show you where everything was installed in an advanced settings tab or button
[15:55] <Spasysheep> how can i extract audio from an swf video file
[15:55] <Diiphantom> ohness, you have a point let me try a different version, xp :)
[15:55] <neodemi> thanks marnold its in /usr/share/doc
[15:55] <ohness> bazhang -> that i dont know
[15:56] <Schuenemann> is there any difference from downloading the kernel source from the repositories or directly from kernel.org?
[15:56] <lastman> I ve added the url "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu hardy main" to my source list, but I dont know if it is a good idea to trust a scribbler team :)
[15:56] <anton_> how can i include files *.h to my gcc?
[15:56] <ohness> SchneeSchwarz -> i believe there are, but to confirm, download both and do a diff
[15:56] <Diiphantom> bazhang, ** you have a point let me try a different version, xp :)
[15:56] <Spasysheep> how can i extract audio from an swf video file?
[15:57] <bazhang> Spasysheep, please dont repeat so often
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lastman, If you want opinions or want to take a poll this is the wrong place.. but I would not add other repos
[15:57] <hydrozen> hi, should I be able to mount a floppy disk when using the Ubuntu Live CD?   I dont see any /dev/fd0.... only /dev/fd/
[15:57] <Schuenemann> ohness, the problem is that the versions are different. I actually asked if I could have any problems in compiling a kernel not from the repositories
[15:57] <natnayr89> !clone | natnayr89
[15:58] <ohness> Schuenemann -> its always possible to have problems when compiling
[15:58] <Diiphantom> do i have to install ¨virtualbox-ose-guest-source?¨
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> schlort, Of course you will have troubles
[15:59] <Diiphantom> bazhang, that i ment to ask you: do i have to install ¨virtualbox-ose-guest-source?¨
[15:59] <Schuenemann> why so?
[15:59] <jim_p> Diiphantom, only if you run ubuntu as a guest os in vbox ose version AND you want to compile something for it yourself
[15:59] <Schuenemann> the repositories only have 2.6.24 and kernel.org has 2.6.28
[15:59] <ohness> Schuenemann -> dependent of what flags or modules you activate
[15:59] <Diiphantom> jim_p, thank you!
[16:00] <lastman> Jack_Sparrow, you re right, but the Ubuntu team takes  too long to set OpenOffice free.
[16:00] <bazhang> Diiphantom, I recall installing the guest tools, not certain about that one but if you dont need it wont hurt to have it anyway
[16:00] <Schuenemann> ohness, can't I get 2.6.28 through the reps?
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Schuenemann, Compiling your own kernels is not on-topic in here.. there are channels just for that.  It is best if you try to compile one and have some understanding so you can ask good - well formed questions
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lastman, Then do it yourself
[16:00] <jim_p> Schuenemann, ubuntu 8.04 has 2.6.24 and the 2.6.28 was released in XMAS! give some time to the devs, although i think we wont see it in ubuntu
[16:00] <lastman> done
[16:00] <Diiphantom> bazhang, you mean virtualbox-ose-guest-utils?
[16:01] <spionlala> Schuenemann, you could ofc get the 2.6.28 from intrepid, dont forget to get the libc too.
[16:01] <jim_p> Schuenemann, is there a particular reason you want 2.6.28?
[16:01] <FrancisN> Can anyone help me out with a brasero problem?  I'm trying to copy a disc, and it refuses to read at more than 2.8x
[16:01] <Schuenemann> jim_p, no, just to compile my first one
[16:02] <bazhang> Diiphantom, that sounds right; from apt-cache search virtualbox that seem the most likely candidate
[16:02] <spionlala> just check the master kernel thread on ubuntuforums
[16:02] <Schuenemann> Jack_Sparrow, which channels are those?
[16:02] <Diiphantom> xp worked!
[16:02] <Diiphantom> :)
[16:02] <jim_p> Schuenemann, do you use hardware that needs the 2.6.28 kernel (eg nehalem cpus and mobos)? or you want to do it for fun?
[16:02] <spionlala> everything for the beginner there Schuenemann
[16:02] <cubevanbaby> good morning (or your respective time of day depending on where you are in the world)
[16:02] <Diiphantom> i guess its just vista :)
[16:02] <Schuenemann> jim_p, no, I just want to compile a kernel
[16:02] <Schuenemann> spionlala, excuse me?
[16:03] <jim_p> Schuenemann, ok good luck then
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Schuenemann,  #Kernel   would be a place to try..
[16:03] <bazhang> Schuenemann, you can /msg ubottu irc for a link to channel lists
[16:03] <spionlala> Schuenemann, you should check the master kernel thread on ubuntuforums
[16:03] <joejc> whats a small distro with gnome and compiz preinstalled?
[16:03] <bazhang> Schuenemann, also #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <spionlala> and forget #kernel no one will help a noob in there
[16:03] <jim_p> joejc, small as in?
[16:03] <ohness> bazhang -> Diiphantom  confirms it, some vista version dont run in vm
[16:03] <joejc> fits on 2 gb
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> spionlala, which is why I suggested he try one first and make sure to ask good well formed questions as as not to look foolish
[16:04] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll try with my current version
[16:04] <jim_p> Schuenemann, you can always refer to the gentoo wiki for the kernel compilation
[16:04] <bazhang> joejc, minimal install of ubuntu
[16:04] <FrancisN> Can anyone help me out with a brasero problem?  I'm trying to copy a disc, and it refuses to read at more than 2.8x
[16:04] <bazhang> joejc, other distro talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:04] <jim_p> joejc, minimal + a light enviroment (gnome-core is 0.5GB+)
[16:05] <recon69> hi all, if I'm getting broken packages when i do an apt-get, is there a way to clean it up?
[16:05] <jim_p> FrancisN, can you also have a look if k3b does the same?
[16:05] <FrancisN> jim_p: I'll check, hang on
[16:05] <jim_p> recon69, depends on what you get
[16:05] <bazhang> FrancisN, copy? a dvd or other
[16:05] <Tobberoth> Just installed ZSNES on a completely updated Ubuntu 8.10 and got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93763/
[16:05] <FrancisN> bazhang: cd, drive speed 48x
[16:05] <ChristianBill> How do you install "Keyboard shortcuts", I am missing it from my System tab
[16:05] <LFSveteran> someone using xmail server?
[16:05] <dabbu> is there any note making application which is password protected
[16:05] <Tobberoth> that's when I run it, of course
[16:06] <ohness> FrancisN -> also if they are on same controller, they will be slow
[16:06] <FrancisN> ohness: it's one drive, I'm copying to an image and then to a disk
[16:06] <FrancisN> and jim_p: k3b doesn't give me any options above 16x
[16:06] <recon69> jim_p: well, was looking at the help, there is a clean option and a purge option , whats the difference?
[16:07] <jim_p> ChristianBill, isnt it in System > Preferences ? or in              gnome-control-center
[16:07] <ohness> FrancisN -> i'd say just be patient, those numbers you throw around dont mean much really, cdrom are slow they have moving parts
[16:07] <jim_p> recon69, purge = remove an app and its settings
[16:07] <FrancisN> ohness: trust me, this is slower than windows.  It's taken over 20 minutes and 1 cd still isn't done
[16:07] <jim_p> recon69, clean = clean the cache of downloaded packages (or semi-downloaded)
[16:08] <ohness> FrancisN -> okay it is up to you
[16:08] <recon69> jim_p: I try a clean , and the try find the package that causing the problem, thx
[16:08] <jim_p> FrancisN, 16x for a dvd disk?
[16:08] <jim_p> FrancisN, also look for buffer underruns
[16:08] <FrancisN> jim_p: I dunno, K3b only gives me an option up to 16x and I'm trying to read a CD, on a drive of 48x speed
[16:08] <FrancisN> I checked, DMA is enabled
[16:09] <FrancisN> I've burned images with brasero before, and it only went up to 16x burn, but that was better than 2x read
[16:09] <bullgard4> [MetaCity] What is the name of the function which makes that a window snaps when I move it using Touchpad, for example when I move it next to another window?
[16:10] <mankash> does ubuntu have rar utility
[16:10] <RogerB> mankash, yes
[16:10] <jim_p> mankash, its called a plugin in linux language
[16:10] <bazhang> !rar > mankash
[16:10] <natnayr89> hi, could someone pls explain to me the cloning process, im a little lost with using 'aptitude'
[16:11] <copper> quit sending guys over to #alsa god damn it
[16:11] <jim_p> natnayr89, cloning of what?
[16:11] <spionlala> haha copper :D
[16:11] <natnayr89> jim_p: cloning of packages using aptitude
[16:11] <copper> ATTENTION UBUNTU OVERLORDS: ALSA != Pulse Audio
[16:11] <copper> Thank you.
[16:12] <natnayr89> the ubuntu bot  explains in !clone |  natnayr89
[16:12] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my PC with MSI ATI R4650 (1GB) but everything looks corrupted and too colorful. what can I do?
[16:12] <RogerB> seems obvious if someone had a alsa problem, alsa channel would be the solution
[16:12] <Tobberoth> Ah seems that ZSNES is indeed broken on intrepid :(
[16:12] <jim_p> copper, may i ask the reason?
[16:12] <copper> you guys fuck up audio, you guys fix it
[16:12] <spionlala> if they come tell them to check the pulseaudio thread on ubuntuforums copper :)
[16:12] <FrancisN> copper: You might want to try being marginally polite while you're at it.
[16:12] <hajar> please ..pray for god for Gaza .. they die
[16:12] <spionlala> FrancisN, well copper is right
[16:12] <copper> FrancisN: I'm well beyond the point where I can remain polite
[16:12] <spionlala> utter noobs get sent to channels were they not belong
[16:13] <spionlala> *where
[16:13] <copper> I'm fucking tired of getting noobs turfed over to us
[16:13] <RogerB> dude watch your language
[16:13] <copper> RogerB: watch your noobs
[16:13] <FrancisN> Can anyone tell me why Brasero is only reading my CD at 2x instead of drive-supported 48x?
[16:13] <copper> and I'll watch my language
[16:14] <jim_p> copper, well... tell them to remove pulseaudio and that alsa has no responsibility for their "situation"
[16:14] <natnayr89> jim_p: hi so could u explain !clone? its for transfering the installed packages in ubuntu over to another machine
[16:14] <mrwes> copper: how was your holiday? :)
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> natnayr89: what do you need explained exactly? i'll try to a little here.... it takes 'just the name' of all the packages that are currently installed on your system. then on the target system, it marks all those same packages for installation. then you give a command that tells it to download all those packages and install them. then when it's finished, you have exactly all the same packages installed on the target system as
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> are installed on the originating system
[16:14] <jim_p> natnayr89, sorry mate, i know nothing about it
[16:14] <copper> jim_p: doing that 10 times a day gets old
[16:15] <jim_p> copper, oh sorry then. i promise to keep them here and tell them to do so
[16:15] <jim_p> as long as i am here of course
[16:15] <mankash> how to use rar in ubuntu
[16:15] <eghdagon> hi
[16:15] <marco__> hi
[16:15] <musictoto> !rar>mankash
[16:15] <spionlala> sudo apt-get install unrar
[16:15] <eghdagon> how r u
[16:15] <Schuenemann> mankash, try man rar
[16:16] <copper> Just remember: Ubuntu 8.10 uses Pulse Audio by default, so if a noob comes here saying his audio is broken, don't send them over to #alsa, kthxbai
[16:16] <jim_p> mankash, sudo apt-get install unrar                  and open rar archives with the compression utility you are provided
[16:16] <jim_p> copper, by DEFAULT?
[16:16] <linny> hi peeps i trust a good christmas was had by all , i was wondering if its possible for me to install windows alongside an existing ubuntu 804 installation i could resize the disk with gparted then innstall windows then im kinda stuck how would i get some sort of boot menu up ?
[16:16] <RogerB> lies
[16:16] <RogerB> my ubuntu 8.10 had alsa as default
[16:16] <RogerB> pffft
[16:16] <natnayr89> onetinsoldier: so how do i mark them all in aptitude in cmd line?
[16:17] <jim_p> RogerB, i have alsa too... but i never installed pulseaudio!
[16:17] <copper> RogerB: are you telling me noobs who don't know anything ran Pulse Audio by themselves?
[16:17] <RogerB> i did
[16:17] <RogerB> i had alsa, didn't know a thing
[16:17] <mrwes> RogerB: if sound is set to autodetect, how would I know which is being used?
[16:17] <RogerB> and have pulse audio with 6 channels now
[16:18] <rod_> Hi Im looking for a howto to install nvidia 180 drivers on intrepid... Someone got some links? Cant find any
[16:18] <spionlala> pulseaudio is installed by default.
[16:18] <jim_p> can you please calm down ?
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> natnayr89: how are you trying to go about cloning exactly?
[16:18] <nickrud> this is not a channel for arguing over what audio subsystem is in use: if you want to argue go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:18] <jim_p> rod_, what gpu are you on?
[16:18] <rod_> jim_p nvidia 7600go
[16:18] <spionlala> rod_ uninstall ubuntu nvidia packages, boot into rootshel run ./nvidiainstallerblabla.sh
[16:18] <linny> i was wondering if its possible for me to install windows alongside an existing ubuntu 804 installation i could resize the disk with gparted then innstall windows then im kinda stuck how would i get some sort of boot menu up ?
[16:18] <FrancisN> Can someone help me figure out why Brasero is only reading a regular cd at 1.6x?
[16:18] <copper> nickrud: just don't send people over to #alsa unless Pulse Audio is completely disabled, thanks
[16:18] <rod_> spionlala, i would like to use a ppa
[16:18] <spionlala> rod_ well thats not possible!
[16:19] <nickrud> copper, a good point. Sound is black magic in linux for most of us
[16:19] <rod_> anders-kaseorg
[16:19] <jim_p> rod_, do what spionlala says, but in any case i would go with the repos
[16:19] <eghdagon> what is the best computer to use ubuntu in
[16:19] <duffydack> FrancisN: brasero doesnt compare to K3B, use that
[16:19] <rod_> spionlala and jim_p are you aware of the ppa of anders-kaseorg ?
[16:19] <nickrud> copper, but also, please respect our G rated dialog
[16:19] <jim_p> eghdagon, a non ati one :P
[16:19] <Hans-Martin> linny: that way round it's probably a bit difficult - it's much easier if you have an existing windows install.
[16:19] <spionlala> rod_ oh no i wasnt
[16:19] <jim_p> rod_, no :(
[16:19] <eghdagon> oh ok tyvm
[16:19] <spionlala> rod_ so just at the ppa get the drivers activate in jockey? :d
[16:19] <spionlala> +add
[16:19] <lakcaj> linny, if possible, install windows first, and then install ubuntu, and ubuntu will auto-detect the other OS and add a grub boot option for it
[16:19] <copper> nickrud: please respect our time and my effing nerves
[16:20] <jim_p> duffydack, i think he used k3b
[16:20] <FrancisN> duffydack: will try
[16:20] <lakcaj> linny, I've never done it the other way around
[16:20] <pikario> hi, how can i connect to a wireless network using terminal?
[16:20] <linny> Hans-Martin: i realise this but i have an ubuntu installation i need to keep
[16:20] <eghdagon> oh an it will run better
[16:20] <AshTray-> Hi guys. Any ideea how can I install hp 3320 deskjet printer on ubuntu server ?
[16:20] <nickrud> copper, I can't control where people send noobs all the time, but I can enforce language requirements
[16:20] <sudobash> lakcaj I have and what you have to do is use Gparted LiveCD and repartition Ubuntu for XP
[16:20] <jim_p> pikario, with encryption and the like? and dhcp?
[16:20] <copper> nickrud: use /topic or the join notice, I don't know
[16:20] <pikario> no encryption, just dhcp and an ssid
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> copper, Obfuscated swearing is still swearing. we dont accept it of our users.. Please keep the room family friendly.
[16:21] <eghdagon> so 98 is not the real good tpo run it in
[16:21] <nickrud> copper, we do need to get a better sound troubleshooting system in place. Noted
[16:21] <jim_p> pikario, i would alter the /etc/network/interfaces and restart network
[16:21] <lakcaj> sudobash, right, but what bootloader ends up being installed?  I doubt that after XP overwrites the bootloader with its own that it'll be nice and add an option for ubuntu
[16:21] <sudobash> it is harder because you have to create your own grub menu
[16:21] <spionlala> kids shouldnt be allowed on the internet without parental guidance anyway so who cares
[16:21] <Hans-Martin> linny: when you have made a suitable free partition, you will probably have success by first booting from and installing from the windows installation media, then booting with the Ubuntu CD to let it detect the situation - however I don't know how exactly you would keep your existing install intact
[16:21] <sudobash> lakcaj after bootloader is overwritten you need Super Grub Disk
[16:21] <rod_> spionlala, guess  i try this jockey thing....      What i did before was apt-get install nvidia-glx-180, which also takes the headers and kernel source... but modprobing nvidia fails without error... but now i see i got it working i think, bbl after x restart
[16:21] <AMDMutant> spionlala: :)
[16:21] <duffydack> you can make an image of cd/dvd in ubuntu if you right click the drive and copy disc..
[16:22] <sudobash> and you can install grub or lilo
[16:22] <pikario> jim_p, i mean how do you do it like on-the-go without editing that file? like ifconfig wlan0 or something?
[16:22] <copper> nickrud: Ubuntu users make up for at least 50% of the people who come in #alsa, any maybe 95% of those really have a problem with Pulse Audio, not ALSA
[16:22] <lakcaj> sudobash, ok - it's actuall linny that's trying to accomlish this.  Linny - did you see sudobash comment about "Super Grub Disk"?
[16:22] <sudobash> and then you will have to prolly add the XP partition in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, sggr is seldom any better than using ubuntu livecd and grub-install
[16:22] <nickrud> copper do you have a good suggestion for where to send them? I will remind people about not bugging alsa ;)
[16:22] <fantomas> How to upgrade kernel to .27 on 8.04 except of building it from scratch?
[16:22] <tet3> Hi - running off of Live CD - my wireless card (Atheros 802.11) says it's supported under System -> Admin -> Hardware Drivers, but I can't get wirless connection to work. Any hints?
[16:22] <linny>  lakcaj: no i didnt pls explain
[16:22] <jim_p> pikario, for this case you need to use an extra "network management layer" like network manager, wicd, wifiradar and some i cant remember
[16:23] <sudobash> Jack_sparrow we were talking about dualbooting with XP installed first
[16:23] <copper> nickrud: either #ubuntu since Ubuntu decided to force Pulse Audio onto its users, or #pulseaudio
[16:23] <tet3> The "sudo lshw -C network" in helkp shows the device as UNCLAIMED
[16:23] <jim_p> tet3, does it scan the networks around it?
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, YEs.. exactly
[16:23] <mrwes> I get this error when running GNOME alsa mixer: Bad key or directory name: "/apps/gnome-alsamixer/slider_display_names/SigmaTel_STAC9750,51-Master": `,' is an invalid character in key/directory names
[16:23] <eghdagon> well i have in a dell gx260
[16:23] <NuMaStresa> I just bought a domain, how can I point to my computer using www.name.com ?
[16:23] <sudobash> thanks for your concern though... I would always use Ubuntu and not install XP first
[16:23] <sudobash> but I do know that this method works
[16:23] <ferry997> ciao
[16:23] <Diiphantom> what do i select for in the virtualbox for sound to work for windows virtualinstall?
[16:23] <ferry997>  !list
[16:23] <nickrud> copper, thanks. I'll look around the bot links and docs. And poke the sound guys to improve docs
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> copper, Please take it to PM or to -ops.. this is not the place to discuss it
[16:23] <copper> Thank you.
[16:23] <jim_p> Diiphantom, its some audio tick you have to put in settings of the guest os
[16:23] <copper> Jack_Sparrow: I'm done.
[16:24] <duffydack> Diiphantom: i use Pulse without any problems
[16:24] <tet3> No - I tried entering my mom's fully-open SSID directly, but no dice. (She lives in a rural area - no security needed.)
[16:24] <Diiphantom> ty
[16:24] <sudobash> If done correctly the Gparted / SGD method with get your dualbooted if you have installed XP..... I didn't say how easy it would be
[16:24] <RogerB> <--- loves his pulse audio :)
[16:24] <Diiphantom> duffydack, can i select it or change it while its running or have to stop it>?
[16:24] <duffydack> only cuz it doesnt interfere with any other sounds in ubuntu, like alsa
[16:24] <fantomas> How to upgrade kernel to .27 on 8.04 except of building it from scratch?
[16:24] <jim_p> tet3, can you try removeing network manager and installing pulseaudio?
[16:24] <mrwes> copper: any idea on this error? Bad key or directory name: "/apps/gnome-alsamixer/slider_display_names/SigmaTel_STAC9750,51-Master": `,' is an invalid character in key/directory names
[16:24] <duffydack> i guess you`d have to shutdown the guest first.
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, If he has XP installed and is installing ubuntu why would he need super grub repair
[16:25] <lakcaj> linny, well, it looks like you have a couple options.  Make a partition for windows, install it along side ubuntu.  Then you could either:  (a) Use the ubuntu liveCD and run grub-install again to detect all the operating systems and create menu items, or (b) Use Super Grub Disk to do the same
[16:25] <Diiphantom> duffydack, how can i see my files from ubuntu in windows?
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Diiphantom, ext2fs
[16:25] <jim_p> fantomas, by using an intrepid repo and prey to apt powers            apt-get install -t intrepid something-to-install
[16:25] <lakcaj> Jack_Sparrow, he has ubuntu installed and is installing XP
[16:25] <sudobash> or wait he has Ubuntu installed first
[16:25] <duffydack> set a shared folder in vbox
[16:25] <eghdagon> i webrooted the hard drive an straight instaled ubutuntu
[16:25] <sudobash> and is trying to install XP
[16:25] <onetinsoldier> Diiphantom: do a google search on   'ext2 IFS'
[16:25] <jim_p> tet3, sorry my answer was nonsense
[16:25] <jim_p> :(
[16:25] <Diiphantom> im using a virtualbox to do this
[16:26] <sudobash> so he needs to repartition prolly and have SGD handy just in case
[16:26] <Diiphantom> not dualboot
[16:26] <jim_p> tet3, give me a sec to eat and i will find you a solution
[16:26] <fantomas> jim_p: so, there is no a kind of backports for hardy?
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lakcaj, That is what I thought. and he still does not need sgr as I have seen it mess up more than I have seen it work.
[16:26] <onetinsoldier> Diiphantom: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[16:26] <tet3> thanks, jim_p
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[16:26] <Diiphantom> duffydack, i did that and selected my home folder but then where should it show in the virtual?
[16:26] <fantomas> jim_p: I'm afraid of moving to intrepid..
[16:26] <nando> nd
[16:26] <malaik-a> !seen mel
[16:26] <jim_p> fantomas, a kernel is something really big to backport
[16:26] <sudobash> Diiphantom to see a Linux partition in windows use Explore2FS
[16:26] <malaik-a> !seen mef*
[16:26] <duffydack> then do net use x: \\vboxsvr\sharename
[16:26] <duffydack> in windows
[16:26] <jim_p> fantomas, plus backports are "patches" to existing packages
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> malaik-a, Please stop
[16:27] <fantomas> jim_p: where can I take config to use it for building my own kernel? from /boot?
[16:27] <duffydack> x being the drive letter you want..
[16:27] <jim_p> fantomas, dunno that
[16:27] <sudobash> Jack_Sparrow I have never seen SGD fail and I have used it over 100 times I am sure
[16:27] <kashanki> how do i see the wvdial.conf of gnome-ppp ??:
[16:27] <Diiphantom> uhm confused there
[16:27] <sudobash> it only fails if you do something wrong
[16:27] <eghdagon> well happy new year everyone but i have to go for now take care
[16:27] <nando> dead_end
[16:27] <tet3> I'm thinking that since it seems very likely that I'll get my wireless to work, I should just go ahead and install rather than try to troubleshoot on Live CD.
[16:27] <tuxxy__> anyone know of a USB wireless adapter that works out of the box with Intrepid
[16:27] <duffydack> sudobash: he wants to access network shares
[16:27] <lakcaj> linny:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> Diiphantom: confused by...?
[16:27] <razor1394> I need help with very slow 2d rendering under Jaunty alpha 2 with 3200hd. Same misery with radeon, ati and radeonhd. Please help.
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash, It is not the cure all you make it out to be.  And I have a better than average understanding of drives and partitions and ubuntu
[16:28] <duffydack> set a share in the virtual machines settings... then when in windows guest goto command line (start/run) and net use x: \\vboxsvr\sharename
[16:28] <ohness> razor1394 -> too new, jaunty   you are in the wrong channel my friend
[16:28] <hole_> i have ndiswrapper running and my hardware is recognized but i'm still nnot clear how to list my available wireless networks
[16:28] <Diiphantom> onetinsoldier, im following duffydack, ty
[16:28] <sudobash> Well all i am saying is I have never seen it fubar anything or not work for me... it has helped me out many times
[16:28] <jim_p> tuxxy__, i will test this http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.616454 in some days. it seems its module is in the kernel since... last year
[16:28] <HeinHein> Hi, before I've got my domain affiliated "HeinHein". why now it's a typical domain?
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[16:28] <ohness> hole_ -> same command  iwconfig
[16:29] <ohness> hole_ -> to scan  iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:29] <sudobash> !SGF
[16:29] <sudobash> !SGD
[16:29] <razor1394> ohness -> which channel is correct?
[16:29] <sudobash> !SuperGrub
[16:29] <Diiphantom> duffydack, im gona read the manual idk its not wroking
[16:29] <recon69> help, tried installing "sudo apt-get mc" the package failed and now keep getting error from apt-get -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93778/
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !fishing > sudobash
[16:29] <ohness> razor1394 -> try #ubuntu+1 maybe
[16:29] <duffydack> so like share your home folder and call it shared so you`d have net use z: \\vboxsvr\shared
[16:30] <sudobash> You must have had a bad Christmas Jack_Sparrow
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > sudobash
[16:30] <joshp> I am unable to affect screen brightness since upgrading to intrepid
[16:30] <sudobash> oh no
[16:30] <hole_> no scan results (ndiswrapper says my hardware is there)
[16:30] <joshp> it hurts my eyes
[16:30] <nickrud> recon69, we need to see the complete error, not just the end
[16:30] <duffydack> Diiphantom: shutdown the guest first..  works fine for me
[16:30] <sudobash> hole actually ndiswrapper has been denounced by Linus
[16:30] <joshp> is there an intel graphics control panel?
[16:31] <cubevanbaby> hey hey question for you all. I'm using xfce and thunbar and feh. I am now able to right click and set a wallpaper which is awesome. I wanted to try getting it to work at startup and added the following to my autostarted programs eval `cat $HOME/.fehbg` & but it doesn't seem to work. Then I tried using another feh command where I specified a filename but I can;t remember off the top. didn't work though. LOL any
[16:31] <cubevanbaby> one have any other ideas?
[16:31] <Roggy> how do i share folders with Windows XP host and Linux Ubuntu 8.04 guest? I already selected it from the settings, but I don't know what to do next
[16:31] <ohness> sudobash stop the trolling or else you will get banned
[16:31] <hole_> so how can i get this wifi card working
[16:31] <exodus_ms> !wifi
[16:31] <duffydack> Diiphantom: also, something to point out is there is a newer version of vbox (2.1)  make sure you're using it
[16:31] <ohness> hole_ -> what is the results of iwconfig
[16:31] <Abidel> Hello! First time user here
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[16:31] <Abidel> thanks
[16:31] <hole_> i'll pastbin then brb
[16:32] <marc__> wie gehts leute
[16:32] <sudobash> so telling someone they might want to download SGD cause it can be a useful tool when doing what they are doing, and getting harassed by an OP is trolling?
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: try making a file called .xsession. start it at the top with   #! /bin/bash
[16:32] <joshp> is there a way to downgrade back to gutsy
[16:32] <Roggy> how do i share folders with Windows XP host and Linux Ubuntu 8.04 guest? I already selected it from the settings, but I don't know what to do next
[16:32] <sudobash> idiots
[16:32] <ohness> Jack_Sparrow -> do you thang
[16:32] <ohness> Jack_Sparrow -> do your thang
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: then put your feh command in it next. let me know if that works ok
[16:32] <sysrpx> hello, what is a good program for ubuntu to create and burn a dvd from an avi?
[16:32] <musictoto> !repeat > Roggy
[16:32] <cubevanbaby> ahhhhhh brilliant onetinsoldier thanks
[16:32] <Abidel> I'm using ubuntu 8.04 - my computer can actknowledge each other, but can not view. Any ideas!?
[16:33] <joshp> my eyeballs hurt because i upgraded to intrepid and brightness control is gone
[16:33] <RogerB> !samba
[16:33] <hole_> http://pastebin.com/m5fe09b3a
[16:33] <RogerB> !samba | Roggy
[16:33] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: you're welcome, i just hope that works ok for you. i'm pretty sure it will though
[16:33] <nickrud> recon69, you could show us the complete output of   sudo apt-get -f install
[16:33] <sysrpx> anyone?
[16:33] <recon69> nickrud: thx, error seems to have gone away.
[16:33] <exodus_ms> !anyone
[16:34] <cubevanbaby> I'm sure there is a way. just a matter of finding it. I'm finding with linux that there's a million ways to do stuff and one of them will surely work! lol
[16:34] <sysrpx> hello, what is a good program for ubuntu to create and burn a dvd from an avi?
[16:34] <joshp> how do you control intel graphics in ubuntu?
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> sysrpx: burn a file to a dvd? an avi file?
[16:34] <nickrud> recon69, bummer. I love doing surgery on the package database ;)
[16:34] <pikario> !hi | joshp
[16:34] <duffydack> sysrpx: make a dvd compliant disc from an avi ?  dont know of one, without using a million cli tools...
[16:35] <sysrpx> to create a dvd movie playable in any standard consumer dvd player from an avi/mp4 movie file
[16:35] <Hans-Martin> sysrpx: I'm using avidemux to cut and convert source videos (DVB in my case, but AVI should work as well) and kmediafactory for creating the DVD.
[16:35] <onetinsoldier> sysrpx: oh, if your asking to do what duffydack just said, then i don't know either
[16:35] <RogerB> would nero linux convert and burn it
[16:35] <duffydack> the linux version of nero might be able to do it by now, i dont know...all i can suggest
[16:36] <sysrpx> hrmm
[16:36] <sysrpx> thanks for the responses
[16:36] <duffydack> sysrpx: or get a dvd player like mine that can play wmv/avi :)
[16:36] <Hans-Martin> sysrpx: but kmediafactory 0.5.2-0 as contained in Hardy has a bug, I had to compile 0.5.2-4 from sources
[16:36] <Abidel> remote desktop doesn't connect to my other computer - any thoughts?
[16:36] <sysrpx> daffy: i was going to burn some movies for friends as gifts
[16:36] <sysrpx> non computer people
[16:37] <reehan> hello room
[16:37] <joshp> ubuntu user with intel 965 graphics seeks way to adjust brightness
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> !hi | reehan
[16:37] <duffydack> sysrpx: get a decent usenet account and download the dvd then :)
[16:38] <reehan> i have 2GB of ram,but my ubuntu uses only 380mb of the ram at the max,even at intensive workloads,
[16:38] <sysrpx> these are avi torrents of movies not out in theaters yet
[16:38] <reehan> infact after 380 mb it uses swap space, but doesnt exceed usage of ram
[16:38] <cubevanbaby> ?? weird. onetinsoldier it says writing error Writing error when attempting to save /home/user/.xsession
[16:38] <sysrpx> i got that new clint eastwood movie to burn
[16:38] <reehan> is there any way to make full use of ram under ubuntu??
[16:38] <reehan> please help
[16:38] <duffydack> sysrpx: yeah and they usually have a dvd made from em
[16:39] <nickrud> joshp, you can use xgamma:   like, xgamma -gamma 0.2   (1.0 is normal)
[16:39] <pikario> !hi | joshp
[16:39] <duffydack> which usenet would be better for...
[16:39] <AMDMutant> reehan: ???
[16:39] <sysrpx> duffydack: i usually don't dl from usenet
[16:39] <Abidel> what is the best proxy to use?
[16:39] <g0r8y> anyone familiar with diagnosing 915resolution problems? I followed this guide (http://slibuntu.wordpress.com/2007/03/13/using-915resolution-to-change-resolution/) no apparent errors but X still restarts in 800x480 - is there anything special i need in my xorg.conf?
[16:39] <reehan> I have 2 GB of ram in my laptop..but only 380 mb is utilised
[16:39] <duffydack> torrents are ok but the uploading bs and the lifespan really grips my sh*t
[16:39] <reehan> how do i use the unused ram?
[16:39] <pikario> joshp, are you here?!
[16:39] <joshp> yes
[16:39] <Hans-Martin> reehan: normally ubuntu uses the full RAM - so there must be some problem with your setup. You should run dmesg and see what it says about memory
[16:40] <nickrud> reehan,   free  will tell you the actual usage
[16:40] <sysrpx> duffydack: my ispdoesn't  hold onto biinary usenet posts for very long and i don't want to ppay for usenet services
[16:40] <joshp> changing the gamma setting from 1.0 makes it less bright
[16:40] <pikario> System->Preferences->Power Management !
[16:40] <nickrud> joshp, you can use higher numbers to brighten the screen
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: hmmm, does sound weird. do you already have a file in your home dir named .xsession?
[16:40] <joshp> brightness isnt adjustable from power management anymore, ever since i upgraded to intrepid
[16:40] <reehan> nickrud: isnt the space shown by system monitor rite?
[16:40] <g0r8y> paid usernet ftw - its cheap and best QOS out there, even compared to things like sky imo
[16:41] <nickrud> reehan, yes, but free is more complete
[16:41] <duffydack> costs me £20 for 3 months fast as hell
[16:41] <RogerB> reehan, i got 2 gb ram and use 0% of swap and all runs fine here for me so i wouldn't worry to much about it
[16:41] <nickrud> reehan, might show that it's using the rest as cache
[16:41] <reehan> nickrud: how can thr be such a difference in both? system monitor shows only 380mb used
[16:41] <cubevanbaby> I did with /usr/bin/icewm-session already in it. I tried just editing the existing file.
[16:41] <AMDMutant> reehan: or memstat
[16:42] <sysrpx> Gran Torino with Clint Eastwood ~ 80% Done
[16:42] <nickrud> reehan, reporting differences
[16:42] <tuxkeren> halo
[16:42] <duffydack> well all i can suggest then is run xp in a virtualbox and use nero... or look for  a guide on the net using ubuntu tools
[16:42] <onetinsoldier> reehan: just because a process uses a lot of cpu doesn't mean it needs a lot of ram
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc, We need to lose the piracy talk in this channel
[16:42] <duffydack> telesyncs and such arent worth the work tho for me.. i only grab r5 or retail dvds.
[16:42] <reehan> RogerB: what is the maximum intensive workload u have given? usage of swap depends on it
[16:42] <RogerB> convert the avi to a wmv and most modern dvd players play wmv
[16:43] <RogerB> and mpeg
[16:43] <duffydack> RogerB: if they do that they do avi
[16:43] <reehan> onetinsoldier: ya i agree, but when a process has some free space in ram and even then its using swap space thats not good
[16:43] <RogerB> more than likely
[16:43] <RogerB> the one i have even does divx so zzzzzzz
[16:43] <sysrpx> i can't test the dvd ... it's for a friend and i don't want to "test" his present
[16:43] <quatar-it> hi all. Why can't i use my sound card if only some other open application has been using it?
[16:43] <alinet> hay guys
[16:44] <roy_hobbs> Hey.  How do I indicate in a syslinux.cfg file that the boot image is on another partition?  I can't find an option like the "root" option for GRUB's menu.lst
[16:44] <g0r8y> duffydack: not necessarily - avi can be anything
[16:44] <alinet> i just got ubuntu 8.10
[16:44] <duffydack> i associate avi with divx/xvid.
[16:44] <AMDMutant> reehan: now that is
[16:44] <alinet> it's cool but the problem is Restricted drivers
[16:44] <duffydack> theyre nothing but , what i use
[16:44] <g0r8y> daffydack: same =) but thats not its litteral meaning
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> roy_hobbs, root		(hd0,5)               like that?
[16:45] <roy_hobbs> Jack_Sparrow: isn't that for Menu.lst though?
[16:45] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: oh, look at the permissions of that file. make sure that you do have write permission to it
[16:45] <manzara> hiçbiþey anlamadým
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> roy_hobbs, Sorry, thought that is where you were looking..
[16:46] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, argh you're right I don't apparently
[16:46] <Schuenemann> jim_p, about the kernel rebuild again, my howto says I should apply some patches to the sources, but I don't have any patches from the kernel file I got. Is this a problem?
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> natnayr89: hello.. welcome back
[16:46] <Abidel> how do I view other computers on my network
[16:46] <roy_hobbs> Jack_Sparrow: no, i'm trying to set up a boot usb with two partitions using syslinux - to piggyback onto the ubuntu live usb
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, roger
[16:46] <natnayr89> hi, im having a problem mounting my external harddrive
[16:46] <cubevanbaby> weird. how do I get it.
[16:46] <musictoto> natnayr89: what's the problem ?
[16:47] <musictoto> natnayr89: it doesn't mount ?
[16:47] <jim_p> Schuenemann, depends on what the patches do
[16:47] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: who is the owner of the file? show me the output of  ls -l .xsession
[16:47] <natnayr89> musictoto: hi, i cant seem to mount my hard drive, its due to a security problem where the permissions in my /usr folder was recursived to be 777
[16:47] <g0r8y> arg this problem is so annoying - my screen res cropps the bottom of the pokerroom.com java applet
[16:47] <Schuenemann> jim_p, it is a generic tutorial. I mean it is possible the sources come without any patches to be applied, right?
[16:48] <n8tuser> Schuenemann -> i thought you were just doing this for fun, try it without the patches, continue compiling
[16:48] <natnayr89> musictoto: is there a way for me to temporaryly mount my HD so i can begin reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:48] <natnayr89> musictoto: kinda need to move the packages and files.
[16:48] <g0r8y> does anyone know if i can trick jre into thinking my screen res is bigger?
[16:48] <enskap> hi @ all : i search a german ubuntu irc channel
[16:48] <musictoto> natnayr89: i think so, yes. what's the filetype ?
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> roy_hobbs, Cant help with that one..  I have only done a few os on usb..
[16:48] <jim_p> Schuenemann, yea
[16:48] <nickrud> !de | enskap
[16:48] <musictoto> natnayr89: i mean filesystem
[16:48] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, crap I think it belongs to the other user. hold on -_-' lol
[16:48] <natnayr89> musictoto: ntsc
[16:48] <Schuenemann> n8tuser, jim_p, alright, thanks again
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: in your home dir? i don't know why it would....
[16:49] <natnayr89> musictoto: the windows kind i think
[16:49] <enskap> THX
[16:49] <musictoto> natnayr89: open a terminal window in ubuntu, then type 'sudo fdisk-l' without the quotes
[16:49] <cubevanbaby> hmm hold on
[16:50] <musictoto> natnayr89: with the drive attached to your computer
[16:50] <onetinsoldier> k
[16:50] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 2008-07-27 17:50 .xsession
[16:50] <bjstick> ubuntu ate my computer
[16:50] <cubevanbaby> sorry I don't usually paste in channel I figured if it was a small one liner it's all good. Just getting aquainted with the place heh ^_^
[16:50] <quatar-it> hi all. If my problem is that my sound card won't be used by more than one app together, and i have a sony vaio, is the solution here: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Audio/HdaIntel#head-134964679d4e7c1bf49c672f04e0b22becedadcd ?
[16:50] <musictoto> natnayr89: then look up your drive, and check the filesystem...
[16:50] <bullgard4> [MetaCity] What is the name of the function which makes that a window snaps when I move it using Touchpad, for example when I move it next to another window?
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bjstick, Please explain and avoid unsupported comments like that
[16:51] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: have you ever started X Windows as the root user somehow?
[16:51] <natnayr89> musictoto: its NTFS sry
[16:51] <musictoto> natnayr89:  ok
[16:51] <natnayr89> HPFS/NTFS to be accurate
[16:51] <rich_> channel
[16:52] <bjstick> well i left my laptop around and my dog, Ubuntu, got a hold of it
[16:52] <rich_> #channel
[16:52] <natnayr89> musictoto:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[16:52] <natnayr89> /dev/sdb1   *           1       19457   156288321    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:52] <rich_> sorry
[16:52] <bjstick> it wasn't pretty ;-)
[16:52] <musictoto> natnayr89: yes, good. i'll be with you within a few seconds
[16:52] <Jack_Sparrow> bjstick, Cute, but more appropiate for a chat channel.
[16:52] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier, not that I know of... :-/
[16:52] <natnayr89> musictoto: thank you
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, hang on
[16:54] <kovacs> hy
[16:54] <gocrazynow> hi and marry xmas to all
[16:54] <atlef> merry xmas
[16:54] <kovacs> pls help me
[16:54] <gocrazynow> and i'm having problems with installing php on ubuntu
[16:54] <gocrazynow> can run php script
[16:54] <gocrazynow> can't, sorry
[16:54] <kovacs> pls help
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > kovacs
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp > gocrazynow
[16:54] <gocrazynow> ok thx
[16:55] <joshp> my brightness control only works when I change brightness and then reboot
[16:55] <natnayr89> gocrazynow: apache file folder should be under /var/www
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: i have a question for you. if someone has a .xsession file in their home dir, should that file be owned by them? or by root? do you know?
[16:55] <nickrud> gocrazynow, you mean for apache? install libapache2-mod-php
[16:55] <nickrud> onetinsoldier, themselves
[16:55] <gocrazynow> yeah, and it work, i downloaded and loaded that mod
[16:55] <gocrazynow> server work and apache runs well
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, great. thank you!
[16:55] <natnayr89> gocrazynow: u need to install php5
[16:56] <RogerB> gksudo /op/lampp/lampp startapache :)
[16:56] <gocrazynow> i have installed already
[16:56] <RogerB> *opt
[16:56] <job> i would like to write an automate program to based on a database.  what good program can use on ubuntu to do this
[16:56] <duffydack> sudo tasksel    to setup a apache/php/mysql
[16:56] <natnayr89> gocrazynow: and running php files will be under the command of sudo php5
[16:56] <gocrazynow> php apache mod
[16:56] <duffydack> if thats what you are wanting to do
[16:56] <AMDMutant> RogerB: lampp :)
[16:56] <Smokey_Tokez> hey need help, i need to boot an iso image without burning it to a cd
[16:56] <duffydack> if its just php then its php5 i think...
[16:56] <kovacs> From where I can download games yet youtube brings downloading one?
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[16:57] <kovacs> From where I can download games yet youtube brings downloading one?
[16:57] <natnayr89> gocrazynow: try using the manual of LAMP
[16:57] <Smokey_Tokez> cant burn it, dont have burner
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, if your username in you system is cubevanbaby, then do the following command --> sudo chown cubevanbaby.cubevanbaby .xsession
[16:57] <Smokey_Tokez> need to boot befor os loads in
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Smokey_Tokez, If you are trying to boot an iso to install another os etc.. not really gonna work
[16:57] <Smokey_Tokez> i want to install it to dual boot with what i am using
[16:57] <kovacs> From where I can download games yet youtube brings downloading one?
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[16:58] <bazhang> kovacs, what games?
[16:58] <bullgard4> Are all X11 source code files found under one directory?
[16:58] <AshTray-> I have a problem installing my Deskjet 3320 HP printer... i used HPLIP and it gives me an error at the near end, AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'keys'
[16:59] <kovacs> Bazhang: Actio, strategy
[16:59] <cubevanbaby> cool will do onetinsoldier thanks!
[16:59] <atlef> kovacs: please refrase your question
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, cool. you're welcome. :-) good luck
[16:59] <bazhang> kovacs, do you mean flash games.
[17:00]  * tet3 seeing if network connection is back on
[17:00] <kovacs> bazhang pls help
[17:00] <Tommck> I am running Gusty (2.6.22-15-generic) and, somehow, I've made it so that I can't login to any GUI (both Gnome and KDE can't open display '0.0' during startup).  Gnome gives me the "your session lasted < 10 seconds" error and KDE just boots me back to the login screen.  Can anyone help me figure this out?
[17:01] <bazhang> kovacs, tell us exactly what you mean; which exact games are you talking about
[17:01] <SilentDis> !grub
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, ctrl-alt  F2  to try and open a term
[17:01] <icqnumber> !info cheese
[17:01] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: can you log in using a linux virtual console? (try pressing ctrl-alt-F1)
[17:01] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I can login in console mode and ssh
[17:01] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: yes
[17:01] <kovacs> bazhang: counter-strike, world of Warcraft
[17:01] <musictoto> natnayr89: mkdir /media/usbdrive ; mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive
[17:02] <bazhang> kovacs, you cannot download those.
[17:02] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: then you should be able to see .xsession-errors in your home directory. It can tell you more
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:02] <atlef> kovacs: you need to buy them
[17:02] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: that's where I get the "xrdb: can't connect to display '0.0'" error
[17:03] <kovacs> why?
[17:03] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I get the graphical login prompt, so I thought that the X part was fine
[17:03] <bazhang> kovacs, once you have purchased them, you can run them in wine
[17:03] <AshTray-> I have a problem installing my Deskjet 3320 HP printer... i used HPLIP and it gives me an error at the near end, AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'keys'
[17:03] <bazhang> kovacs, check the appdb for whether they will work or not
[17:03] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: that's likely too late - the X server died before rdb wanted to talk to it.
[17:03] <bazhang> !appdb > kovacs
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, you could still have a video setting in there messing you up..  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:04] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: ok
[17:04] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I'll try that (did it without the "-phigh" before)
[17:04] <atlef> AshTray-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=881751
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, set it to vesa mode next if it still hangs
[17:05] <EnMasse187> hi guys
[17:05] <kovacs> bauhang: and you from where you download games and their name?
[17:06] <atlef> hi
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kovacs, You are in the wrong room to be asking about pirating games
[17:06] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: fyi: plain "startx" works and gives me the generic checkerboard-looking X desktop
[17:06] <atlef> kovacs: install steam and buy the games
[17:06] <bazhang> !ot > kovacs
[17:06] <EnMasse187> i've been using ubuntu for the last 6 months and i still dont know how to install a package via terminal, how do you guys recommend i should go about becoming as adept in a linux as i am in windows?
[17:06] <EnMasse187> i mean i don't even know how to figure out in which folder my program files are
[17:07] <siliconmeadow> I run my ubuntu machine headless and access it via X11 on my intranet - if I plug a usb memory stick in the ubuntu machine, is there a way I can access it from my X11 session (using either startkde or gnome-session)
[17:07] <Smokey_Tokez> is there a way to get puppy linux to install from a USB Flash Drive?
[17:07] <AshTray-> atlef: Not working :( http://pastebin.com/m23cd9f3b
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, see if you have an old xorg in your X11 folder from prior to this problem.  It may be worth a try
[17:07] <natnayr89> musictoto: hey u there, sry i DCed
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Smokey_Tokez, Wrong room.. ask in puppy
[17:07] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: I have a backup.. I've tried it.. no dice
[17:07] <Smokey_Tokez> well I'm running xubuntu, it automatically took me to this
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, dpkkg-rec..  when set to vesa and 1024 mode.. does that get you back in?
[17:08] <atlef> AshTray-: sorry, was my first hit on Google
[17:08] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: there are loads of tutorials on terminal usage - are you familiar with man and apropos yet?
[17:08] <usser> siliconmeadow, you dont need gui for that
[17:08] <Tommck> Jack_Sparrow: it went straight to resolutions and didn't give me any other options when doing "-phigh"
[17:08] <EnMasse187> no
[17:08] <siliconmeadow> usser: I want the gui for that
[17:09] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: what else do i need to learn besides the terminal?
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, that is what -phigh does, just set a res and keeps you out of the other settiings
[17:09] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: can you paste your .xsession-errors on http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[17:09] <usser> siliconmeadow, you want to open usb stick on ubuntu or on the machine u connecting from?
[17:09] <natnayr89> hey, anyone know where musictoto went? was talking to him halfway
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Tommck, follow Hans-Martin suggestion and look for an actual error
[17:10] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: it is VERY boring... one line to say it started... the next says xrdb can't open the display... that's all that's in there
[17:10] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: if you want to learn the terminal - you need to use it regularly - doing tutorials and the like - do you have any experience with DOS for navigating around a file system?
[17:10] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93794/
[17:10] <EnMasse187> nps
[17:10] <EnMasse187> *no
[17:10] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: no
[17:11] <chturne> if i want to know the hex code of a particular key sequence, what program can i use for this? I want to know, say, what C-m is in hex.
[17:11] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: that's really not much info :-(
[17:11] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: I know... nice error messages
[17:11] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: have a go at some of these
[17:11] <usser> siliconmeadow, if the latter you can just enable x forwarding ssh -X -C yourubuntubox
[17:12] <usser> siliconmeadow, and then gnome-session on machine u connecting from
[17:12] <Mohammad[B]> Hi all
[17:12] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: do you happen to have a .xsession file or something else that might be executed when your graphical session starts?
[17:12] <siliconmeadow> usser: I've got X working - it's getting access to the usb stick that i'm tyring to get to
[17:12] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can play .amr in totem ?
[17:12] <AshTray-> So.. thoes anybody know how do i fix my printer? http://pastebin.com/m23cd9f3b
[17:12] <siliconmeadow> usser: i prefer startkde
[17:12] <Mohammad[B]> which plugin is for playing .amr in totem ?
[17:12] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: I never did anything custom for that
[17:13] <hikenboot> hello all thought i would share this...on ubuntu workstation or server with ubuntu-desktop installed the compiz stuff wouldnt work for a 6200 servies nvidia gpu went and compiled and installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia and I was able to enable compiz fusion which failed with the ubuntu suggested drivers
[17:13] <usser> siliconmeadow, oh it wasnt a question, my bad :)
[17:13] <lab-1> Hi all
[17:13] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: do you need a tutorial site about the terminal? try here... http://linuxcommand.org/
[17:13] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: what should i try?
[17:13] <bullgard4> Are all X11 source code files found under one directory?
[17:13] <EnMasse187> onetinsoldier: thanks alot, what else do i need to learn?
[17:14] <Mohammad[B]> !amr
[17:14] <Mohammad[B]> :(
[17:14] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: first step is to learn how to navigate your file system - learn about 5-10 commands for moving around, creating directories, deleting and permissions
[17:14] <chturne> bullgard4: what do you mean? if you download the source distro, then yes, but as installed on Ubuntu, no.
[17:14] <SilentDis> I have been running my machine for quite some time, and haven't rebooted it in a while.  last night, i had shut down my machine for the first time.  when i turn it on, it flashes that it's loading grub for a very very brief second, then reboots immediately.  halp.
[17:15] <bullgard4> chturne: What is "the source distro"?
[17:15] <Shpook> Hello everyone, I need some help. My daughters EeePC will connect to our wireless network, but has no internet access. There was access before, but it was in roaming mode and switched to a stronger network, and I pointed it back to our network. Now It doesn't connect to the internet. I can't ping out, and the DNS nameserver is pointed to my router correctly.
[17:15] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: the tutorial that onetinsoldier sent any maybe a google search like this: http://tinyurl.com/927hn6
[17:15] <chturne> bullgard4: if you were to go to X.org website for instance, and download the source manually. Or do an apt-get source X
[17:15] <bluefox83> i need the command to list all partitions on a system, in terminal
[17:15] <EnMasse187> thanks alot
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> usser: it's ok
[17:16] <chturne> bluefox83: fdisk -l
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> d
[17:16] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: can I just move my xorg.conf and start fresh?
[17:16] <EnMasse187> when i have an understanding of linux how do i know?
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> bluefox83: or df -H?
[17:16] <n8tuser> Shpook -> check if it has a good route table   route -n
[17:16] <wolfwalker> Flash plugin for firefox keeps crashing.  Any fix yet?  Running Ubuntu 8.04, official flash.
[17:16] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: it's an alway evolving knowledge - you you need to know file systems first
[17:16] <bjstick> mount should work too
[17:16] <EnMasse187> i mean in windows i can go around install programs, edit regedit, fix my computer everytime windows messes up, etc basic stuff that if you use a computer yous hould know how to do
[17:16] <EnMasse187> but how can i know about linux?
[17:17] <Shpook> n8tuser: There's nothing listed but the headings :/
[17:17] <wolfwalker> EnMasse187 97% of computer tech is efficient and effective use of Google.
[17:17] <chturne> wolfwalker: heh :)
[17:17] <bjstick> wolfwalker speaks the truth
[17:17] <EnMasse187> wolfwalker: >_<
[17:17] <EnMasse187> XD
[17:18] <n8tuser> Shpook -> that is your clue, no route, so it can not get to wherever
[17:18] <bjstick> google knows all
[17:18] <magikid> I'm having a problem with apt-get crashing.  Can anyone help me out with it?
[17:18] <EnMasse187> if only google was a student in my college
[17:18] <infosoak> If I have a .zip file -- is there an explicit way to unzip the file such that the contents are unzipped with a particular owner and group?
[17:18] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: i would say that after you go through that tutorial, learn how to compile something from source code. perhaps something like ubuntu-tweak(ubuntu-tweak_0.4.4.orig.tar.gz)
[17:18] <siliconmeadow> EnMasse187: can you apply the same energy you did when you learned windows? You've to roll your sleeves up a try things
[17:18] <EnMasse187> i'd be the smartest kid in class
[17:18] <EnMasse187> siliconmeadow: i got windows when i was 2
[17:18] <EnMasse187> 2 years old
[17:18] <chturne> Ubuntu comes with lots of system documentation too. go to /usr/share/doc and see.
[17:18] <EnMasse187> windows 95
[17:18] <Shpook> n8tuser: Now my next step is to figure out how to resolve it. :D
[17:18] <EnMasse187> okay ill look at it
[17:19] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: no more ideas?
[17:19] <n8tuser> Shpook -> copy one from your working clients
[17:19] <SilentDis> I have been running my machine for quite some time, and haven't rebooted it in a while.  last night, i had shut down my machine for the first time.  when i turn it on, it flashes that it's loading grub for a very very brief second, then reboots immediately.  halp.
[17:19] <bjstick> the best way to learn about linux is to intentionally break stuff and then try to fix it
[17:19] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/   ...after learning about the terminal.. compile that
[17:19] <bjstick> in a vm of course
[17:20] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: not at the moment - I'd probably try to set up the system to you get more debugging output, but I have no ready-made plan for that.
[17:20] <CountryTrouserTr> Does anyone know how to pull up the nvidia xorg.conf file? I tried adding a modline for overscan which put my computer into low graphics mode. When I go to nvidia settings it says as root type nvidia-xconfig to fix problem, it doesnt.
[17:20] <bullgard4> chturne: "$ apt-get source X; E: Unable to find a source package for X."
[17:20] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: yeah, I guess I'll do some googling to get more debug output
[17:20] <Tommck> Hans-Martin: thanks for the help
[17:20] <chturne> bullgard4: I lied. Try apt-get source xorg
[17:20] <EnMasse187> compile means install?
[17:20] <gocrazynow> how to make postgresql not start at startup?
[17:20] <CountryTrouserTr> btw when I pull up my xorg.conf file now it's not the one I want its the  one I'm running now which is low graphics
[17:20] <bjstick> compile means compile
[17:20] <bjstick> turn source code into binary
[17:20] <Hans-Martin> Tommck: you're welcome and good luck finding a fix!
[17:20] <EnMasse187> bjstick: but linux to me seems such a stable system compared to windows
[17:21] <biomass> Can anyone tell why the command 'xinput set-int-prop "Name_Of_Mouse" "Device Enabled" 32 0' would disable the mouse pointer on one machine and not another but both machines have the same effect of "turning on" the output from /dev/input/event* ids when engaging the mouse ?
[17:21] <bluefox83> ok, i have a friend who has mounted a partition to a live cd session, how does he use the installed system to do a grub-update ?
[17:21] <EnMasse187> bjstick: in windows erase system32 and all hell breaks loose
[17:21] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: actually, no. but you won't do much with a compiled program unless you do install it
[17:21] <EnMasse187> hmm okay
[17:21] <CountryTrouserTr> anyone?
[17:21] <bjstick> rm -rf / will cause some hell in linux too
[17:21] <EnMasse187> so let me guess its a script/source code?
[17:21] <EnMasse187> and you compile it
[17:21] <Shpook> n8tuser: I don't have any working clients, but I'll see what I can find with google
[17:21] <EnMasse187> turns it into a package?
[17:21] <Shpook> n8tuser: Thanks :D
[17:21] <atlef> Tommck: when you get the grub meny, edit the bootoptions and remove quiet splash as this will give you a lot more feedback
[17:21] <EnMasse187> to work with sudo commands?
[17:21] <bjstick> not a package
[17:21] <EnMasse187> is that what it is?
[17:21] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <bjstick> packages are .deb files
[17:22] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: after compiling it, i recommand you use a package and command named 'checkinstall' to actually install it
[17:22] <Tommck> atlef: thanks
[17:22] <n8tuser> Shpook -> those should be automatic, feed by the dhcp server
[17:22] <bjstick> or .rpm files
[17:22] <bjstick> etc
[17:22] <CountryTrouserTr> actually I found the xorg.conf.backup file, how do I load this back in?
[17:22] <atlef> Tommck: hope it gives you some more info, and good luck
[17:22] <lvlefisto1> i have two computers at home, one connected wireless and the other is wired. When both were wired i easily can ssh the other one using its name. Now i can't. Does anyone can tell me how can i ssh the wireless PC from the wired one?
[17:23] <EnMasse187> are there any good books on learning linux?
[17:23] <Jeaton> ok, i lost power earlier and i was in the process of using tovid
[17:23] <Jeaton> is there anyway of resuming where i left off?
[17:23] <bullgard4> chturne: "/$ sudo apt-get source xorg; dpkg-source: unpacking xorg_7.3+10ubuntu10.2.tar.gz." What directory stores now the X source code?
[17:23] <EnMasse187> guys one thing in terminal
[17:23] <Shpook> n8tuser: would that make it a router issue?
[17:23] <bjstick> can you ping the other computer by IP?
[17:23] <EnMasse187> do i have to write out everysingle text?
[17:23] <n8tuser> Ivlefisto1  have a name entries in your /etc/hosts  file
[17:24] <chturne> bullgard4: the current directory?
[17:24] <EnMasse187> i mean it takes forever for me to even write out sudo apt blah blah blah
[17:24] <n8tuser> Shpook -> yeah
[17:24] <EnMasse187> is there like an auto complete?
[17:24] <EnMasse187> where you write a commonly used command and linux recognizes it?
[17:24] <bjstick> use tab completion
[17:24] <EnMasse187> ahh yea
[17:24] <magikid> Does anyone know how to get apt-get to list package dependencies?  I'm trying to uninstall some packages and it's removing some things it shouldn't
[17:24] <EnMasse187> i forgout about that
[17:24] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: that might depend onexactly what you mean. when you do the tutorial, it should teach you about bash command line completion
[17:25] <EnMasse187> k thanks
[17:25] <Shpook> n8tuser: i apologize, i do have a working windows machine, it's just the ubuntu machine that doesn't work
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[17:25] <EnMasse187> im doing the tutorial right now
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> cool
[17:25] <bluefox83> if someone is running a ubuntu livecd and need to make a change to grub on their regular installation, how would they go about doing that?
[17:25] <EnMasse187> oh guys what are MUST have apps for linux?
[17:25] <EnMasse187> i mean people said amarok/vlc
[17:25] <EnMasse187> what else?
[17:25] <n8tuser> Shpook -> in windows you use   route print
[17:25] <magikid> enmasse187: Forget amarok, go with Songbird
[17:25] <EnMasse187> songbird?
[17:25] <bjstick> yeah Songbird has really matured
[17:26] <magikid> it's nice
[17:26] <n8tuser> man its taking so long..   0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[17:26] <EnMasse187> is it better than amarok?
[17:26] <EnMasse187> i havent even tried amarok yet
[17:26] <magikid> it's a music player based on the mozilla backend
[17:26] <EnMasse187> im isntalling both right now
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: there's a ton of them... i recommend getting this util here for one --> http://www.kbrandt.com/2008/06/pygnomefind-gui-frontend-to-gnu-find.html
[17:26] <magikid> amarok is a close second though
[17:26] <bjstick> if you are used to iTunes it will be more familiar
[17:26] <EnMasse187> im used to winamp
[17:26] <EnMasse187> :(
[17:26] <bjstick> you might want XMMS2 then
[17:26] <Zyfo> I'm trying to run a .bin file to install a windows game (Hearts of Iron 2). After having done chmod +x to the file and tried to running it both with "sh ./<filename>" and just "./<filename>" I get a syntax error and a "cannot execute bin file". What might be the problem?
[17:26] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=top+10+must+have+linux+applications
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: what does --> file <filename> ...show?
[17:27] <Shpook> n8tuser: ok good, and did you mean just copy the contents, or would it have to be from another ubuntu machine?
[17:27] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier:  rld-hoi2d.bin: data
[17:27] <n8tuser> Shpook -> you can not literally copy the contents, its the context you need to copy
[17:27] <RogerB> on that bin file, chmod +x filename.bin
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: data?
[17:28] <Jeaton> anyone here familiar with tovid?
[17:28] <n8tuser> Shpook -> those should be automatically performed by the dhclient
[17:28] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier: yes, that's what it says when I do "file rld-hoi2d.bin". Is it bad?
[17:28] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: it should show like this... /usr/bin/feh: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[17:29] <n8tuser> Zyfo -> data means it is not executable
[17:29] <shauno> It appears to be part of a bin/cue set disk image, not a bash-packed installer
[17:29] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier:  if I do it with a simple .bin file? So what does it saying "data" mean?
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: that was from  'file /usr/bin/feh', ans an example
[17:29] <RogerB> mount it
[17:29] <Zyfo> there's a .cue file to it aswell
[17:29] <shauno> (based on plugging the file name into google)
[17:29] <nibbler> snsbnibbler
[17:29] <Zyfo> RogerB: how do I mount it? :p
[17:29] <wolfwalker> Request information on flash plugin for firefox.  Running Ubuntu 8.04, tried updating, etc, googled extensively, but I can't keep my browser from crashing when I play a flash video.
[17:29] <Shpook> n8tuser: I didn't mean literally copy and paste :P well, like i said, it worked fine before i turned off roaming mode
[17:29] <RogerB> gisomount app
[17:30] <wolfwalker> Running official flash, not gnash
[17:30] <duffydack> gmountiso
[17:30] <RogerB> or gmount-iso apt will do it to
[17:30] <n8tuser> Shpook -> you dont want roaming mode, lest you reallly are roaming
[17:30] <bjstick> just type mkdir something
[17:30] <Ground0_> wolfwalker did u try nspluginwrapper
[17:31] <Shpook> n8tuser: yeah, that's why i turned it off and pointed to my connection. that was the moment i lost an internet connection.
[17:31] <n8tuser> Shpook -> configure the settings accordingly once you uncheck roaming
[17:31] <Ground0_> i think theres a bug in the sound system has a bug that makes flash crash ur firefox
[17:31] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: search google on .cue file... i can't help with that really. needs something from rar or a cdrom burning util?
[17:31] <wolfwalker> !nspluginwrapper
[17:31] <Zyfo> RogerB: thanks, I'll try
[17:32] <n8tuser> Shpook -> should only be like the essid and use dhcp   on that nm window
[17:32] <Zyfo> onetinsoldier: maybe, I'll tinker for a bit with gmountiso
[17:32] <RogerB> you don't need a cue really to mount a .bin data file
[17:32] <onetinsoldier> Zyfo: ok, good luck
[17:32] <Ground0_> wolfwalker u on latest ubuntu?
[17:32] <duffydack> bin2iso too
[17:32] <RogerB> cue file just tells the loader to load .bin, zzzzzzzz
[17:32] <sky_> how to convert audio from flv file to mp3 via ffmpeg ??
[17:32] <wolfwalker> Ground0_ I mentioned 8.04 I thought.  If I forgot that, apologies.
[17:33] <sky_> omg
[17:33] <wolfwalker> Running ubuntu 8.04, official flash plugin, from the ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[17:33] <bjstick> wolfwalker, does about:plugins show the flash plugin
[17:33] <chturne> sky_ : http://youmakemedia.com/2006/10/13/converting-flv-to-mpeg-in-linux/
[17:33] <EnMasse187> guys i uninstalled a program via add/remove
[17:33] <AMDMutant> wolfwalker: flash 9?
[17:33] <EnMasse187> and it did not get cleared from the applications bar
[17:33] <EnMasse187> its in accessories
[17:33] <Ground0_> wolfwalker Just try to use swfdec plugin instead of adobe one
[17:33] <shauno> Zyfo: bchunk is a command-line app to convert bin/cue pairs to a standard iso image.  been years since I touched it, so can't help with it much, but it might not be a bad place to start
[17:34] <gocrazynow> Somebody, please tell me how to make postgresql not to start at startup???
[17:34] <wolfwalker>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[17:34] <wolfwalker>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[17:34] <atlef> EnMasse187: sudo apt-get autoclean / sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:34] <Ground0_> wolfwalker maybe trying Flash 10 beta might also fix the problem
[17:35] <bjstick> gocrazynow: update-rc.d -f postgresql
[17:35] <Zyfo> shauno: ah thanks, the other program complained about the file not being iso, will try it
[17:35] <bjstick> or w/e the service is called
[17:35] <wal3> hello. when I'm idle, ubuntu starts playing some random mp3s - whats that?
[17:35] <imaginativeone> how do I mount my external drive to Ubuntu?
[17:35] <Pilot_51> hi,  does anyone know how to share an audio input between multiple applications simultaneously in intrepid?
[17:35] <usser> sky_, ffmpeg -i filename.flv -acodec mp3 -ac 2 -ab 128000 filename.mp3
[17:35] <Ground0_> wab3 wants you to sing along it's bored
[17:35] <sky_> usser: thank you ^_^
[17:35] <usser> sky_, np
[17:36] <Smokey_Tokez> hey i need to add my usb to Grub  because my computer does not boot from usb on its own, can this be done? if so is there a website guide?
[17:36] <gocrazynow> bjstick: thx
[17:36] <wal3> hello. when I'm idle, ubuntu starts playing some random mp3s - whats that?
[17:36] <wolfwalker> wal3 do you leave the cursor positioned over a music file?
[17:37] <Ground0_> Smokey_Tokez yes there one here: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=add+usb+to+grub
[17:37] <duffydack> side note, k3b burns cue/bin
[17:37] <Smokey_Tokez> thank you ground0
[17:37] <wal3> wolfwalker: aaaaaaaaah. thanks
[17:37] <wolfwalker> Autoplay got me too, couldn't figure out what was going on.
[17:37] <EnMasse187> guys how do i uninstall programs installed in wine; then how do i erase them from applications menu?
[17:38] <Smokey_Tokez> ha ha very funny, i googled it for myself, but nothing seems to work to well
[17:38] <duffydack> apps/wine/uninstall wine software
[17:38] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 did try using an eraser?
[17:38] <EnMasse187> nahh
[17:38] <EnMasse187> what is that?
[17:38] <EnMasse187> in linux terms?
[17:39] <RogerB> i have never gotten anything to really uninstall from wine, always manual, zzzzzz
[17:39] <bjstick> you should be able to just run the uninstall.exe in the program directory
[17:39] <usser> EnMasse187, RogerB yea i concur wine uninstaller sucks, always had to manually delete the folder and clean stuff from wine registry
[17:39] <Pilot_51> based on the lack of answers here and in my google searches am i correct in assuming there is no way to simultaneously share audio input?
[17:39] <polywaffle_> hello I have combined /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow using the intructions for john, however I still get "No password hashes loaded"  This is on my intrepid box.
[17:39] <duffydack> works for me, might need to rm -rf the folder too tho but thats nothing
[17:39] <tavish> is there a way to repackage an installed package to a deb??
[17:40] <usser> EnMasse187, but your mileage may vary try entering uninstaller on the terminal
[17:40] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 Just open a console and type "uninstaller"
[17:40] <seishi> I use a 200gb hd, ubuntu 8.10 in a 8gb partition... and the rest for data. i wonder if can increase my system performace by using a pen drive to hold the S.O. instalation. Any tips ? I used 2 hard disk, one for system and other for data, but I lost one and perceived the performace loss in access to files when i use 1 hd only
[17:40] <duffydack> wine uninstaller just lists the actual programs uninstall files
[17:40] <seishi> *O.S.
[17:41] <RogerB> i'm trying to set up file associations from wine installed apps, but wine chat is pretty next to dead on answering
[17:41] <seishi> I use a 200gb hd, ubuntu 8.10 in a 8gb partition... and the rest for data. i wonder if can increase my system performace by using a pen drive to hold the O.S. instalation. Any tips ? I used 2 hard disk, one for system and other for data, but I lost one and noticed the performace loss in access to files when i use 1 hd only
[17:41] <Zyfo> RogerB, onetinsoldier, shauno: seems to be working now. Thanks for your help all!
[17:41] <seishi> sorry for the bad english ;P
[17:41] <Ground0_> EnMasse187 take a look in ~/.wine/drive_c for program’s files and then in ~/.config/menus/applications-merged for residual menu entries.
[17:41] <RogerB> zyfo did one of them apps get it
[17:41] <onetinsoldier> RogerB: he left
[17:41] <EnMasse187> hmm
[17:42] <EnMasse187> okay
[17:42] <EnMasse187> ill try
[17:42] <AMDMutant> tavish: dpkg-repack
[17:42] <EnMasse187> and hopefully it will work
[17:42] <Ground0_> let us knwo if you come out alive
[17:42] <RogerB> what app handles file associations
[17:42] <sky_> items from trash are moved to /dev/null ? :D
[17:42] <tavish> k thx, i will check it
[17:42] <usser> RogerB, if u use gnome its usually in gconf-editor
[17:43] <EnMasse187> if i just uninstall wine
[17:43] <EnMasse187> will everything go away?
[17:43] <Smokey_Tokez> i dont want grub to boot from usb, i want usb to boot from grub that is installed on my harddrive
[17:43] <nvc> hi, i installed virtualbox closed source edition 2.0 but it does not have an option for seamless mode
[17:43] <RogerB> usser, where's that listed at
[17:43] <nvc> well, it's there, but just unable to be clicked
[17:43] <usser> RogerB, where are associations? i dont know but i know its there
[17:43] <nvc> is there a way i can enable it?
[17:43] <Pilot_51> are there any packages i should know about that might solve my audio problem?
[17:44] <n8tuser> RogerB -> and usser   /etc/mime.types
[17:44] <Smokey_Tokez> i dont want grub to boot from usb, i want usb to boot from grub that is installed on my harddrive
[17:44] <usser> n8tuser, oh thanks didnt know about that
[17:45] <kromium> how to boot ubuntu in text mode using grub
[17:45] <n8tuser> usser -> you're welcome
[17:46] <n8tuser> kromium -> it is always been in text mode, what do you mean? you dont want the X server running at the end?
[17:46] <Ground0_> kromium http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18550#18550
[17:46] <Typhox> Can you tell me how do I change the screen-resolution via console on a Ubuntu 8.10 64bit live-cd ?
[17:46] <duffydack> nvc:  host key + L
[17:46] <duffydack> read the manual
[17:46] <^anak^^jalanan^^> !chk
[17:46] <Pilot_51> heck, at the very least could someone suggest a channel where someone might acknowledge my existence and answer my question?
[17:46] <blbrown> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Intrepid  I want to put ubuntu on my macbook, I am assuming I don't need a custom version of intrepid?  I can just get the image and then start installed, for x86?
[17:47] <n8tuser> !patience | Pilot_51
[17:47] <Ground0_> Pilot_51 yes google.com
[17:48] <Pilot_51> i've been searching google for about 3 days now and asking nicely in here at the same time and nobody/nothing gave me any help
[17:48] <Vincent_> 8.10 alternate amd64.  Anyone got raid > /boot & raid > encrypted > lvm > / working?  Having problems with setting up a boot loader.
[17:48] <cubevanbaby> hm.. I think I may have made a major mistake heh lol
[17:48] <n8tuser> Pilot_51 -> the expertise may not be around when you have asked, so be patient, ask every 15 minutes or so
[17:48] <duffydack> safe to say no one knows then
[17:48] <Ground0_> Pilot_51 you will even find information relating to the exisistance of your ancestors, evolution, exsistence of other life and most importantly, the search for life on other planets in our galaxy.
[17:48] <biomass> Can anyone tell why the command 'xinput set-int-prop "Name_Of_Mouse" "Device Enabled" 32 0' would disable the mouse pointer on one machine and not another but both machines have the same effect of "turning on" the output from /dev/input/event* ids when engaging the mouse ?
[17:49] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier so... I may have done something majorly wrong with editing .xsession now it just keeps bringing me back to the login screen over and over agian :-/
[17:49] <usser> biomass, file a bug report
[17:49] <cubevanbaby> I'm on another machine now lol
[17:49] <Pilot_51> well my question seems like a relatively simple one, can nobody available seriously answer it?
[17:50] <duffydack> ask it
[17:50] <n8tuser> Pilot_51 -> not at the moment aparently, just hang around for a few more
[17:50]  * Soft_Kitty is soft!
[17:50] <Ground0_> maybe you should just ask than complain and wonder if someone can answer
[17:50] <Pilot_51> ok here goes again... i want to use an audio input in multiple applications at once, how?
[17:50] <cubevanbaby> <-- fails I think I might have accidentally deleted the icewm line I have a feeling that's what's causing it to crash :-/
[17:51] <duffydack> thats a pulseaudio thing and out of my league
[17:51] <Ground0_> Pilot_51 multiple sounds at once?
[17:52] <Pilot_51> Ground0_: sometimes the only way i can get someone to help me (in this channel) is if i complain or be vague in my question.\
[17:52] <AshTray-> I managed to make my deskjet 3320 work with hplip and cups but the printed pages is empty. Can you please help me? Not i'm not using GUI
[17:52] <bullgard4> "$ sudo apt-get source xorg" produced the directory /xor-7.3+10ubuntu10.2 having root access rights. Why does source code need root access rights?
[17:52] <Pilot_51> Ground0_: a single audio input device to multiple applications at once
[17:52] <EnMasse187> bakc again
[17:52] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file
[17:53] <EnMasse187> need some help
[17:53] <EnMasse187> when i minimize amarok where does it go?
[17:53] <mwilson_> subspace.. ;)
[17:53] <Arelis> Hello. I'm wondering how ubuntu is now. Back when i tried it, at version Gutsy Gibbon, it was still causing too much trouble and was eating away my time because i had to fix sudden problems when they appeared. I switched to Mac OS X, and got a new piece of hardware too (Mac Mini). I don't want to try it again until i'm certain it's gotten rid of all those problems and works very well on the mac mini.
[17:53] <Ground0_> it merges with dark energy
[17:53] <AMDMutant> :D
[17:53] <EnMasse187> 0_>
[17:53] <EnMasse187> seriously?
[17:53] <EnMasse187> :(
[17:53] <duffydack> the tray?
[17:53] <mwilson_> it gets compressed in subspace...
[17:53] <mwilson_> ...   like a zip file.  :)
[17:54] <mwilson_> look for a little wolf on the taskbar.
[17:54] <EnMasse187> where is the tray?
[17:54] <mwilson_> with a circle..
[17:54] <EnMasse187> i dont see a wolf?
[17:54] <Pilot_51> Ground0_: if i open, say, mumble, and then i open audacity, audacity doesn't recognize any available input device
[17:54] <biomass> Arelis: maybe trying the livecd would be the easiest option for you
[17:54] <EnMasse187> where is my Tray?
[17:54] <allsystemsarego> Arelis, your best bet is to use a stable, long-term supported release - Hardy Heron
[17:54] <mwilson_> try ctrl-alt leftarrow/rightarrow to see if it's on another screen.  :)
[17:54] <duffydack> thats down to the apps to use pulse
[17:54] <duffydack> 1 might use alsa while 1 might use pulse..whatever
[17:54] <mwilson_> enmasse:  you using gnome or kde?
[17:55] <EnMasse187> gnome
[17:55] <VillageIdiotEh> Can someone please help me, I have been trying to recover my Files off an Old External HDD, And i have it inside my ubuntu tower, But when i right click i get the stupid you do not have permissions to edit this file?
[17:55] <Pilot_51> i tried using different systems (alsa, oss, pulseaudio) and it still happens
[17:55] <mwilson_> oh, quickly, my question is "why the heck is the HUE setting for video files changing...   makes everything blue.  I move my slider in nvidis settins just a hare, and it's back.
[17:56] <duffydack> check to see if they support pulse and use it...thats all i can say
[17:56] <mwilson_> hmmm.   using KDE myself.
[17:56] <duffydack> pulse is the only one that really supports mutiple sounds...i know of anyway
[17:56] <Ground0_> im sure theres a way but im not sure trying to find out
[17:56] <EnMasse187> guys where is the tray in gnome!
[17:56] <EnMasse187> T_T
[17:56] <duffydack> top right
[17:56] <EnMasse187> my music playlist is over
[17:56] <EnMasse187> :(
[17:56] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file >.>
[17:57] <bazhang> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup you may wish to read this Pilot_51
[17:57] <EnMasse187> i only see a panel
[17:57] <RB2> Short of a fresh install, is there a way to get the nVidia binary drivers to work after an upgrade to 8.10?
[17:57] <cubevanbaby> hey room, if I screw up my .xsession file if I drop it into rescue mode (someone help... it's F9 right?) will the following fix it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[17:57] <mwilson_> it's the other side of your taskbar..  opposite your menu button.
[17:57] <EnMasse187> im on ubuntu 8.04
[17:57] <Pilot_51> mumble supports pulse but that's the only app i use that supports it
[17:57] <imaginativeone> would someone help me to connect my external drive?
[17:57] <cubevanbaby> <-- epic fail i knew I was breaking it argh lol
[17:57] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, lemme guess it's a seagate freeagent ?
[17:57] <Pilot_51> might there be some kind of a workaround to make pulse appear for the other apps?
[17:57] <nickrud> cubevanbaby, no, that will only affect xorg.conf
[17:58] <Arelis> What edition of Ubuntu should i download?
[17:58] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: WD MyBook
[17:58] <Arelis> Hardy or Intrepid?
[17:58] <skorasaurus> ahh, k.
[17:58] <skorasaurus> Arelis, intrepid.
[17:58] <Schuenemann> Arelis, the latest
[17:58] <Arelis> Isn't it instable?
[17:58] <allsystemsarego> Arelis, Hardy is stable.
[17:58] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, is it formatted for windows ?
[17:59] <Schuenemann> they are both stable
[17:59] <cubevanbaby> nickrud - any way to reconfigure the .xession file? pretty sure all I have to do is readd /usr/bin/icewm back into it
[17:59] <Arelis> Which is stabler?
[17:59] <lukasz> Hi people
[17:59] <lukasz> I need help
[17:59] <Tobberoth> 8.10 is stably, has some "just out" issues though
[17:59] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: not yet - I just took it out of the box and plugged in the usb cable...
[17:59] <skorasaurus> ahh, k.
[17:59]  * skorasaurus is going through the same process right now.
[17:59] <Arelis> Tobberoth: Like?
[17:59] <lukasz> How do I install Nvidia?
[17:59]  * skorasaurus just bought a seagate freeagent yesteray
[17:59] <Pilot_51> LTS (long term support) means it's proven stable enough for a server if i'm not mistaken
[17:59] <Tobberoth> Arelis: Small stuff, some packages not fixed. For example, ZSNES won't run.
[17:59] <skorasaurus> hoorah!
[18:00] <lukasz> I have Asus G1S
[18:00] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, sudo lshw -C disk
[18:00] <imaginativeone> will I have any luck?
[18:00] <Arelis> That's in the repositories, not in the distrubution. Easily fixed.
[18:00] <nickrud> cubevanbaby, you can simply edit in rescue mode, then chown it back to yourself. or, sudoedit -u <username> .xsession to edit as that user
[18:00] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, you should.
[18:00] <duffydack> sound isnt the greatest thing in ubuntu, im hoping jaunty will be better
[18:00] <Tobberoth> Arelis: Exactly
[18:00] <lukasz> Please help
[18:00] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file !
[18:00] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, is it being detected, the drive ?
[18:00] <EnMasse187> guys still cant find ubuntu tray
[18:00] <EnMasse187> >_>
[18:00] <VillageIdiotEh> Can someone please help me, I have been trying to recover my Files off an Old External HDD, And i have it inside my ubuntu tower, But when i right click i get the stupid you do not have permissions to edit this file? Someone send me links that might help?
[18:01] <duffydack> EnMasse187: has it just minimised to an icon on your taskbar?
[18:01] <EnMasse187> yea
[18:01] <lukasz> I have Nvidia 8600M GT
[18:01] <EnMasse187> but i dont see anything on it
[18:01] <D32> VillageIdiotEh: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/DEVICE/
[18:01] <EnMasse187> i only see a panel
[18:01] <EnMasse187> no tray
[18:01] <duffydack> top right, near time/date
[18:01] <lukasz> 256MB
[18:01] <EnMasse187> yea
[18:01] <EnMasse187> nothing there except
[18:01] <EnMasse187> for a panel
[18:01] <AMDMutant> EnMasse187: type amarok in terminal
[18:01] <EnMasse187> with volume thing
[18:01] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, i'm using this page right now, so far, it's going smooth. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[18:01] <xorlim> what does this mean when I run chkrootkit? --> Checking `sniffer'... eth0: PF_PACKET(/sbin/dhclient3)
[18:01] <EnMasse187> i know that
[18:01] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <EnMasse187> but why doesnt tray work?
[18:02] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: it didn't find it...
[18:02] <imaginativeone> thanks for the link
[18:02] <cubevanbaby> thanks nickrud I'll give that a shot
[18:02] <n8tuser> VillageIdiotEh -> use sudo or have root priviledges
[18:02] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, when you ran that command i sent you, your new disk didn't appear ?
[18:02] <EnMasse187> okay guys
[18:02] <pist0l-fish> hello all, I just put ubuntu 8.10 on my computer and I'm having trouble compiling some code. For some reason, things that should be in the c++ STL are bringing up errors (such as: "error: ‘strcmp’ was not declared in this scope"). Can anyone help?
[18:02] <EnMasse187> something wierd
[18:02] <EnMasse187> has happened
[18:02] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: it didn't appear
[18:03] <nvc> hi, i installed virtualbox closed source edition 2.0 but it does not have an option for seamless mode
[18:03] <nvc> well, it's there, but just unable to be clicked
[18:03] <EnMasse187> guys
[18:03] <nvc> is there a way i can enable it?
[18:03] <EnMasse187> help please
[18:03] <EnMasse187> my linux BROKE!
[18:03] <EnMasse187> OMG It broke
[18:03] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file !!!
[18:03] <duffydack> nvc: try the newer virtualbox
[18:03] <imaginativeone> skorasaurus: could it be that USB 2.0 is too slow?
[18:03] <duffydack> 2.1
[18:03] <AMDMutant> EnMasse187: settings > general > show tray icon
[18:03] <EnMasse187> noo
[18:03] <EnMasse187> it broke
[18:03] <skorasaurus> imaginativeone, i dont think so
[18:03] <EnMasse187> i had a theme
[18:03] <RB2> I can't be the only person with nVidia upgrade issues.. :-/
[18:03] <EnMasse187> for the tastk bars
[18:03]  * skorasaurus is using usb2.0
[18:04] <Vincent_> 8.10 alternate amd64.  Anyone got raid > /boot & raid > encrypted > lvm > / working?  Having problems with setting up a boot loader.
[18:04] <skorasaurus> !nvidia
[18:04] <EnMasse187> and i typed a command into
[18:04] <EnMasse187> terminal
[18:04] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <EnMasse187> and now when i put my mouse over it
[18:04] <EnMasse187> it shows a grey
[18:04] <imaginativeone> should I format it first?
[18:04] <duffydack> make a sentence, not 1 word per line
[18:04] <skorasaurus> yes, if you intend to use it primarily on linux
[18:04] <skorasaurus> (as the guide states)
[18:04] <lukasz> I would like to install the glx Nvidia drivers
[18:04] <EnMasse187> well when i put my mouse over the task bar it flashes grey to a new task bar??
[18:05] <imaginativeone> aahhh...
[18:05] <EnMasse187> i typed this command sudo debconf gnome-panel
[18:05] <imaginativeone> I'd better get back to you after I read the guide
[18:05] <EnMasse187> i did a google search on no task bar showing and i got that command from ubuntu forums
[18:05] <EnMasse187> now my task bar has two forms if i put my mouse over it goes grey, if i leave it to goes back to my custom theme
[18:05] <nvc> < duffydack> nvc: try the newer virtualbox
[18:06] <Squideshi> I am trying to run the Ubuntu 8.10 live CD on a Dell Inspiron 1100 with an Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV graphics controller. I think there is a problem with xorg.conf because it keeps booting to either a blank black or orange screen with nothing other than a working mouse pointer.
[18:06] <nvc> what version is it?
[18:06] <lukasz> How do I install Nvidia-GLX drivers
[18:06] <imaginativeone> how can I tell if my usb external hard drive is detected by the bios?
[18:06] <Tommck> I am still at a loss here.  I can not get a graphical login to work (KDE or Gnome) with my Gutsy box.  I have tried various nVidia drivers (nv, nvidia) and the "vesa" drivers and none seem to make a difference.  I have not found any information that helps me .  Anyone have any new ideas?
[18:07] <CyberGabber> nvc: Is HOST-L and HOST-HOME not working ? Maybe ypu changed your HOST-key seting?
[18:07] <nickrud> lukasz, system->admin->hardware drivers
[18:07] <lukasz> does it include GLX?
[18:07] <nvc> CyberGabber: how do i check to see if it's working?
[18:07] <nickrud> lukasz, yes, it installs the driver supplied by nvidia
[18:07] <lukasz> thnx
[18:07] <lukasz> I will do that and comeback and tell you how it worked
[18:08]  * nickrud considers hiding
[18:08] <Tommck> xfce doesn't work, failsafe doesn't work.. :(
[18:08] <Tommck> this is a MythTV box, so this is quite upsetting (major wife-related issue here)
[18:09] <EnMasse187> nope
[18:09] <EnMasse187> still no tray
[18:09] <EnMasse187> what was the thing i should go to in system?
[18:09] <CyberGabber> nvc: See: File > Preferences > Input.   Thats says what keys are for switching HOST
[18:09] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: have you received help for the .xsession problem?
[18:09] <Tommck> oh, and it's the same for every user in the system too
[18:09] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: i was away....
[18:10] <EnMasse187> what was it?
[18:10] <EnMasse187> the thing i had to go to get my tray back?
[18:11] <nvc> CyberGabber: the key is default
[18:11] <nvc> the right ctrl key
[18:11] <nickrud> EnMasse187, most likely, right click panel, add to panel, select notification area
[18:11] <EnMasse187> k
[18:11] <nvc> the problem is that the whole function is unavailable
[18:11] <nvc> which is ODD
[18:11] <nvc> :S
[18:11] <EnMasse187> yea
[18:11] <EnMasse187> thanks
[18:11] <EnMasse187> :D
[18:11] <EnMasse187> <3
[18:11] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:12] <EnMasse187> now two more helps are needed, first how do i erase stuff from amarok library without erasing it to trash or my hd?
[18:12] <EnMasse187> 2nd, how do i erase a folder that was added to my places menu on the main task bar?
[18:13] <D32> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file !!!
[18:13] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: for the 2nd one, poke around in... System --> Preferences --> Main Menu
[18:13] <EnMasse187> did that
[18:13] <nickrud> EnMasse187, on the second: open a file browser: bookmarks -> edit bookmarks
[18:13] <CyberGabber> nvc: So press Right CTRLK-key AND the L at once to switch to seamless. Once in seamless-mode press right Ctrl HOME for menu...
[18:14] <EnMasse187> how do i open file browser?
[18:14] <EnMasse187> >_<
[18:14] <onetinsoldier> EnMasse187: Alt+F2... type in   Nautilus
[18:14] <nvc> CyberGabber: yeah, not working. and the menu option to start is showing it as not available
[18:14] <D32> how do you run a file browser when you don't know which one you have!
[18:14] <EnMasse187> <3
[18:15] <EnMasse187> so now how do i erase stuff from amarok library
[18:15] <EnMasse187> without actually erasing the files?
[18:15] <wos> how do you setup deluge to download everything behind a proxy?
[18:15] <EnMasse187> amarok auto adds stuff to library, not cool
[18:16] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still trying)
[18:16] <Tommck> can someone familiar with the graphical login process help me?
[18:16] <jim_p> can i use 1280*800 with the vesa driver?
[18:16] <CyberGabber> nvc: It is not selectable ? Grayout ?
[18:16] <nvc> grayed out, yes
[18:16] <nvc> unselectable
[18:17] <EnMasse187> who here uses amarok?
[18:17] <nickrud> jim_p, no: you can see the allowed resolutions in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:17] <EnMasse187> need some helps
[18:17] <nickrud> EnMasse187, you're more likely to find amarok users in #kubuntu
[18:17] <jim_p> thanks Nick_
[18:17] <jim_p> nickrud,
[18:17] <Pici> EnMasse187: Please be patient and ease up on pressing the enter key so often.
[18:17] <lukasz> Is there a driver for DL-Max Webcam For Ubuntu?
[18:17] <EnMasse187> soz
[18:18] <cameronh> how can i get apt to stop keeping so many packages in /var/cache/apt? I'm using a network wide cache, so it doesn't need to keep stuff on the hard drive after it's done with it..
[18:18] <AMDMutant> nvc: have you installed guest additions?
[18:18] <CyberGabber> nvc: What are you running as guest ? XP r somthing ?
[18:18] <nvc> AMDMutant: i haven't. what is it and how do i do it?
[18:18] <nvc> XP, yes
[18:18] <lukasz> Nvidia works well no crashes btw
[18:18] <frobblert> does anyone know of a good way to read/import outlook pst files on ubuntu? (not including running windows in a VM)
[18:19] <lukasz> Now back to the DL-Max Asus G1S driver for Ubuntu!
[18:19] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier yes thanks. lol fixing it now
[18:19] <nickrud> !webcam | lukasz (best source of info I know)
[18:19] <Pici> frobblert: I'm completely guessing, but if one tool was able to do it I'd guess it would be evolution.
[18:19] <sinan> i have a desktop which has no internet connection. How can i install open-ssh on it ? I can access the internet from my laptop if any files are needed.
[18:20] <cubevanbaby> it was a bit of a silly move on my end. I had a gut feeling removing that line was going to break something
[18:20] <CyberGabber> nvc: OK, start your Xp-guest, so that its completely running. Then choose 'devices' > 'install guest additions'
[18:20] <Pici> !offline | sinan
[18:20] <nickrud> Pici, we could wish :( I ended up putting into a remote imap store and importing it into evolution
[18:20] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: ok, roger. just curious, how are you getting it fixed? what line did you remove?
[18:20] <Pici> nickrud: yuck
[18:21] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier - usr/bin/icewm -_-''
[18:21] <nickrud> Pici, I use that anyway, so it was only a matter of waiting for it to upload
[18:21] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still trying)
[18:21] <AMDMutant> nvc: try install it
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: if you own a file or have proper permission, always make a backup copy of the file before editing it
[18:21] <nvc> CyberGabber: currently installing
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> as in any file
[18:21] <jtaji> frobblert: what I've done recently at work is to add a gmail account using IMAP to outlook, copy the emails from outlook's folders to gmail IMAP folders, then add gmail w/ IMAP in new client and copy messages down
[18:21] <wos> can anyone tell me how to setup deluge to download everything behind a proxy?
[18:21] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: roger that
[18:21] <EnMasse187> its impossible
[18:22] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier yeah I should have done that i don't know why i didn't was taking gambling and lost lol
[18:22] <frobblert> thanks pici, nickrud, jtaji: thats a shame...i should have done that before leaving my job with a 100mb line
[18:22] <TR3Y> Is there a way to list all channels on this server?
[18:22] <cubevanbaby> er taking a gamble
[18:22] <nickrud> frobblert, hahahahahahahaha
[18:22] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: i've made the same mistake a few times. i think we all have, hehe.
[18:22] <nvc> holy shit
[18:22] <nvc> it works
[18:22] <nvc> thank you guys so much
[18:22] <Pici> TR3Y: /msg alis list *searchterm*
[18:22] <FloodBot1> nvc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <Pici> nvc: Please watch the language as well.
[18:22] <nickrud> !language | nvc (think disney G rated)
[18:22] <CyberGabber> nvc: After installing the additions, tou must reboot your Guest (XP)
[18:23] <TR3Y> Pici: Thanks
[18:23] <biswajit> hi
[18:23] <EnMasse187> guys you saent me to kubuntu
[18:23] <EnMasse187> and they sent me to amarok
[18:24] <EnMasse187> and amarok is not helping
[18:24] <EnMasse187> >__>
[18:24] <frobblert> apparently the other way is for me to run thunderbird in windows and import the mail that way, but then you lose the attachments
[18:24] <FloodBot1> EnMasse187: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <lukasz> So if the commands shows /dev/video0 I am fine right?
[18:24] <biswajit> hi i need a help regarding the webcam
[18:27] <nvc> CyberGabber: thanks again. all working now. i'll remember that for future usage. ]=>
[18:27] <vjacobb> hello all! After reading 3 different pages on how to get the java6 plugin working with firefox, I'm almost at the point where I've decided to give up. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[18:28] <lukasz> This is what it showed /dev/video0
[18:28] <Tommck> anyone have any ideas why I can't login with KDE, Gnome, Xfce or failsafe modes?
[18:28] <imaginativeone> I couldn't find anything special in the bios...
[18:28] <vjacobb> all the packages are installed, however the java plugin doesn't show up in about:plugins
[18:28] <Tommck> it seems that my xorg.conf is working fine..
[18:28] <NicEXE> some applications (like blender) and some games does not look proper when compiz is enabled. Is that normal? Can I fix that?
[18:28] <Tommck> it just kicks me back to the login prompt every time
[18:28] <Tommck> the only error I get is that xrdb can't connect to display '0.0' - is there a way to find out why?
[18:29] <sky_> is there any way to change order of disks, because i have linux and windows install on second one, and that brings lot of troubles (grub)
[18:29] <kaiser10123> does xubuntu have room
[18:29] <onetinsoldier> vjacobb: are you using the 64-bit userspace ubuntu architecture? or are are you running 32-bit?
[18:29] <bazhang> kaiser10123, #xubuntu
[18:29] <lukasz> You guys should add more mirrors for this Ubuntu 8.04 TLS
[18:30] <vjacobb> onetinsoldier: 32-bit, I'm on eeebuntu
[18:30] <imaginativeone> would I be able to find my drive with Knoppix?
[18:30] <jussi01> lukasz: you should use a torrent ;)
[18:30] <lukasz> More mirrors to the update mirrors
[18:30] <lukasz> It downloaded fast
[18:30] <cubevanbaby> hmmm not familliar with using recovery mode do I select root then I do chown user.user /home/user/.xsession?
[18:31] <lukasz> Just upates slow
[18:31] <vjacobb> onetinsoldier: hmm, hold on, I might have gotten it working... don't know for sure yet
[18:31] <Shpook> Okay, I still have problems with my wireless. I managed to get it to connect by re-entering the connection information, but after a reboot, I still have no connection. I really need to get the wireless set up to work with no hassle, this computer is for my 10 year old daughter
[18:31] <lukasz> I am on Ubuntu 8.04 TLS now :D
[18:32] <onetinsoldier> vjacobb: i'm not sure why you'd be having a problem then. shold be as easy as installing in the sun-java6-plugin(for firefox)... and you're done. i'm using 64-bit nowadays. however, when i had 32-bit i never had an issue
[18:32] <lukasz> My webcam is builtin :D
[18:33] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still trying)
[18:33] <Shpook> What happened was: roaming mode was enabled. I disabled it, and lost the connection to my wlan. I re-enabled it, and it connected, with no internet access. netstat -rn showed an empty routing table, until roaming mode was disabled. But still no connection, and the network manager won't display any networks with roaming disables.
[18:34] <cubevanbaby> I cannot believe after like 3 days I'm talking like this hilarious. It's almost like I might be starting to understand lol. and I have to commend you folks.  I don't know many people who are basically doing tech support out of the kindness of their hearts to help on their own time.
[18:34] <kaiser10123> how big in ubuntu install and is it any smaller to do xubuntu install
[18:34] <kaiser10123> i wanna use ubuntu on my dell mini 9
[18:34] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: :-)
[18:35] <usser> kaiser10123, takes about 5-6gb
[18:35] <usser> kaiser10123, xubuntu takes maybe 3gb
[18:35] <Shpook> kaiser10123: http://www.ubuntumini.com/
[18:35] <lukasz> I dunno why on my old laptop Webcam used to crash heh
[18:36] <Shpook> I use Ubuntu Eee and it takes about 2gb
[18:36] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier well it's true! XD you guys are reaching out and helping people get started on linux and none of you have to be doing this. certainly wasn't around I don't think when my friend started using it oh gosh like a decade ago maybe more. and if so it certainly wasn't as popular or out there as it is now
[18:36] <kaiser10123> Shpook: i seen that sight but i wanted to dual boot xp with ubuntu  or xubuntu on a 16gb ssd
[18:36] <kaiser10123> site*
[18:37] <Shpook> I don't think it would be an issue. Just look up on dual booting windows/ubuntu
[18:37] <Shpook> you should still have 8+ gb left
[18:37] <kaiser10123> wondered how much smaller xubuntu was i have used both how big are some of the gnome libs i want to use xubuntu cause it should be faster but with a few gnome applets
[18:38] <kaiser10123> i know how to dual boot my desktop has xubuntu, sabayon and vista
[18:39] <Shpook> honestly, i'm not very happy with anything *buntu right now...I would've thought after all this time they would've fixed their wireless issues
[18:39] <Shpook> oh oh oh ok, my apologies
[18:39] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: i like helping, it's fun. and we need as many linux users as possible! and i think, the more people get help, the more they stick with it
[18:39] <Shpook> I don't know honestly, I imagine it's not an extreme difference
[18:40] <AMDMutant> headache
[18:40] <onetinsoldier> Shpook: i followed your first statement, but you lost me after that
[18:40] <kaiser10123> im am interested in how big and well sabayon would be they have a new mini pc option on the live dvd havednt tried it yet
[18:40] <Shpook> onetinsoldier: which part? :D
[18:40] <kaiser10123> wanted to see how big xubuntu was then ask someone there how big there mini install option was
[18:40] <D3RGPS31> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10, my bandwidth has been throttled & certain sites always time out (h33t.com) it isn't a DNS issue, it isn't in my hosts file (still!)
[18:41] <Shpook> kaiser10123: well, i'm pretty sure the mini and eee installs are roughly the same, and my eee install takes up about 2gb
[18:41] <onetinsoldier> Shpook: i don't think it's so much an ubuntu issue as it is manufacturers not supporting linux with proper divers. if i were you, i'd be glaring at the makers of these wireless nics, not ubuntu
[18:41] <Imaginativeone> what's the easiest way to format my external drive?
[18:42] <Imaginativeone> I have an ancient copy of Knoppix
[18:42] <usser> Imaginativeone, dd
[18:42] <Imaginativeone> will I need something different?
[18:42] <kaiser10123> Imaginativeone i use gparted to format
[18:42] <cubevanbaby> onetinsoldier it's totally true. I think the thing that scares people the most is that fear of lack of support. I know I was scared at first. then I found the channel. lol. and everyone is so awesome. there are so many people who want to help and offer to teach it's amazing. I did not expect after 3 days to even get as far as I am now. I thought I would be sitting here crying sucking my thumb with a broken lap
[18:42] <Shpook> onetinsoldier: Well, yeah, I agree. the main problem is manufacturers using proprietary drivers and not releasing source.
[18:42] <nickrud> Imaginativeone, you've probably got cfdisk on that knoppix, works fine
[18:42] <onetinsoldier> Shpook: although i hear that intel gives fairly decent support for their wireless, although i wouldn't know firsthand
[18:43] <Imaginativeone> usser: dd...that wasn't cool
[18:43] <usser> Shpook, onetinsoldier intel's wifi is opensourced now and is actually usable on intrepid
[18:43] <usser> Imaginativeone, what?
[18:43] <usser> Imaginativeone, dd will clean it up
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> cubevanbaby: lol. i am happy to hear you haven't regretted taking the plunge
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> usser: roger... see my message above
[18:43] <usser> Imaginativeone, and u can create partitions using mkfs
[18:43] <lukasz> Ok When I type sudo and some application it works
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> usser: :-)
[18:43] <D3RGPS31> onetinsoldier: have you upgraded yet >.>
[18:44] <lukasz> But when I type password in su says authenthication failure
[18:44] <nibsa1242b> how to I pause a printer?
[18:44] <nickrud> lukasz, that's because you don't have a root password
[18:44] <Blair> hi
[18:44] <Shpook> usser: good, hopefully more will jump on the bandwagon. In order for ubuntu to be used by the majority of people, and have market share, it needs to be able to "just work"
[18:44] <mewshi> Sweet :)
[18:44] <NicEXE> some applications (like blender) and some games does not look proper when compiz is enabled. Is that normal? Can I fix that?
[18:44] <Blair> I have a question
[18:44] <lukasz> The password works for sudo gedit
[18:45] <lukasz> Hopw do I give the root a password?
[18:45] <nickrud> lukasz, yes, that's your user password not a root password
[18:45] <nibsa1242b> how do I pause a printer?
[18:45] <lukasz> aha
[18:45] <nickrud> !rootsudo | lukasz (not recommended)
[18:45] <usser> NicEXE, do u have an intel video card?
[18:45] <Blair> I get a weak signal from my router, and can connect to it in windows, but in Ubuntu it doesn't even show up.
[18:45] <Blair> Why can't I connect to weak signals in Ubuntu?
[18:45] <Shpook> Right now my main issue is losing wireless after disabling roaming mode.
[18:45] <nickrud> lukasz, and one more thing: use gksu for graphical gnome/kde apps, you can mess up perms in your home dir if you use sudo gedit
[18:46] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: nope.. not yet. and i'm not going to upgrade to jaunty, it will be a second installation. i DID figure out my sound issue with 2.6.28. i had not put the driver in the kernel for my sound card at all. i put it in and recompiled and it worked a treat with no issue whatsoever.  ;-)
[18:46] <Blair> is roaming mode on by default?
[18:46] <NicEXE> usser: MSI ATI R4650 (1GB)
[18:46] <lukasz> aha So its not recommended
[18:46] <D3RGPS31> :D
[18:46] <Shpook> Blair: yes it is
[18:46] <NicEXE> usser: but I was using an intel GPU (I upgrated today!)
[18:46] <Blair> then it doesn't really answer my question :-(
[18:46] <usser> NicEXE, are u using a proprietary driver? it still has some issues
[18:46] <lukasz> I understand now
[18:47] <usser> NicEXE, ati's support is generally not very good
[18:47] <Mythril> is there any way to undo an rm command?
[18:47] <Blair> Shpook: Any idea why I can't connect though?
[18:47] <NicEXE> there was only one driver available (I am on ubuntu 8.10 64-bit)
[18:47] <Shpook> Blair: I was stating my own problem :P But I've nevr had an issue finding weak networks.
[18:47] <cubevanbaby> hmmm
[18:47] <NicEXE> usser: there was only one driver available (I am on ubuntu 8.10 64-bit)
[18:47] <usser> NicEXE, did it prompt you to install a driver? if so then this is the one
[18:48] <NicEXE> yes
[18:48] <usser> NicEXE, and its not very good :)
[18:48] <nibsa1242b> how do I pause a printer?
[18:48] <Shpook> Well, I'm off to google then.
[18:49] <usser> NicEXE, i'm reluctant to suggest it, but if compiz is really really important then u can try to update to latest driver from ati.com
[18:49] <usser> NicEXE, it may break things though
[18:49] <onetinsoldier> NicEXE: how's it going? i can probably help with ati driver if you'd like...
[18:50] <lukasz> My webcam shows me uside down :(
[18:50] <lukasz> How can I fix that?
[18:50] <cubevanbaby> k so I went in chown the file back to me just in case so I went into the file using sudoedit -u <username> .xsession.... when ever I try to type in what I want /usr/bin/icewm it just keeps saying already at oldest change (or newest change it keeps flipping back and forth if I keep typing) and nothing shows up just ~ vertically all the way down if that makes sense. Never edited a file like this in recover :-/
[18:50] <cubevanbaby> *recovery
[18:51] <lukasz> UpsideDown*
[18:51] <biomass> cubevanbaby: that's the vi editor
[18:51] <cubevanbaby> oh oh nm
[18:51] <cubevanbaby> nm I got it lol *feels silly and giggles*
[18:51] <usser> NicEXE, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI scroll down to Install from ati.com read it carefully and see if u can do it, if not dont start
[18:52] <cubevanbaby> hm so how do I save my changes and exit?
[18:52] <biomass> cubevanbaby: press escape and the   :x  <enter>
[18:52] <cubevanbaby> thanks for telling me what this is biomass when I get this back up I'm going to do a bit of research lol
[18:53] <bullgard4> "$ sudo apt-get source xorg" produced the directory /xor-7.3+10ubuntu10.2 having root access rights. Why does source code need root access rights?
[18:53] <biomass> cubevanbaby: hehe, no problem.. I struggled with vi for a long time before I understood what was going on =)
[18:53] <Blair> I get a weak signal from my router, and can connect to it in windows, but in Ubuntu I can't connect to it
[18:53] <EightEleven> lucasz: Is it a Logitec webcam?
[18:53] <nickrud> cubevanbaby, if you want to use a simpler/easier editor with that, run   sudo update-alternatives --config editor , and choose nano
[18:53] <lukasz> Its a DL-Max
[18:53] <usser> bullgard4, its only root owned because u ran package manager as root
[18:53] <Al_nZ> would someone be able to help me with vncserver? I have it running on ubuntu but cant connect to it from my XP box. Says connect failed?
[18:53] <Al_nZ> I dont think I have the right port open, but then again not even sure if a firewall is running, or the right port open?
[18:53] <nickrud> BULLE, because you used sudo to get it
[18:53] <usser> bullgard4, so it inherited permissions
[18:53] <nickrud> bullgard4, ^^ sorry BULLE
[18:54] <lukasz> DL-Max Asus G1S
[18:54] <cubevanbaby> thanks nickrud I'll keep that in mind :) I like easy way way more
[18:54] <EightEleven> Lukasz: Ok, I googled for some webcam problems some time ago.
[18:54] <lukasz> hmm
[18:54] <EightEleven> Lukasz: And I remember that some module options could fix this.
[18:54] <cubevanbaby> crap!! E486 pattern not found: usr
[18:54] <mortuis99> HELLO i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and am having a problem with the sound (or lack of volume) can someone help?
[18:54] <lukasz> oops
[18:55] <EightEleven> Lukasz: One solution involved recompiling.
[18:55] <lukasz> hmm
[18:55] <bullgard4> usser: But I would not have got the source code package without running the sudo prefix.
[18:55] <lukasz> How do I do that ?
[18:55] <me> can I format ext3 from a mac?
[18:55] <EightEleven> Lukasz: But if you Google for Asus+webcam+module+parameters, you might find some usefull info.
[18:55] <nickrud> bullgard4, false
[18:55] <EightEleven> Lukasz: Unfortunately I no longer have the direct link.
[18:55] <lukasz> hmm
[18:55] <onetinsoldier> NicEXE: how's it going? i can probably help with ati driver if you'd like...  you don't need any help? sniff sniff
[18:55] <nickrud> bullgard4, for source anyway :)
[18:55] <nite_johnboy> Hi - My wife gave me a all-in-one Canon printer for Christmas - Is there somewhere I can go to see if it is supported by Cups for Ubunbtu ? ? Running Ibex 8.10.
[18:56] <usser> bullgard4, you can download source as regular user
[18:56] <usser> ls
[18:56] <usser> err
[18:56] <SchneiderWeisse> Hi
[18:56] <usser> !printer
[18:56] <cubevanbaby> hmmmm is ther a way to simply recover the file. I sense what I'm doing is not working. I assume when it highlights everything in red with a big E it means error you break things bad bad end user
[18:57] <EightEleven> Lukasz: Googling for ubuntu+webcam+upside+down already gave me a linkt that might be usefull: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=724486
[18:57] <usser> nite_johnboy, linuxprinting.org
[18:57] <mortuis99> HELLO i just upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and am having a problem with the sound (or lack of volume) can someone help?
[18:57] <bullgard4> nickrud: '$ apt-get source xorg' did not download any package.
[18:57] <SchneiderWeisse> how can I disable, that I'm always asked for my password, when I want to do sth. - it's almost as annoying as under vista...
[18:57] <NicEXE> onetinsoldier: I prefer open source drivers
[18:57] <bullgard4> usser: '$ apt-get source xorg' did not download any package.
[18:58] <EightEleven> me: I have Ubuntu running on a Mac, and yes, then you can. :)
[18:58] <onetinsoldier> NicEXE: ok, roger that. :-)
[18:58] <nickrud> bullgard4, it's downloading something here
[18:58] <bullgard4> nickrud: Hm.