[03:15] <nix_ferret> baxter_kylie, or adobe reader for *nix
[03:15] <kitche> morghanphoenix: you can enable it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:17] <morghanphoenix> um, how many kilobytes is a 64MB video card?
[03:17] <imbecile> whats the name of ubuntus package manager? I have used fc and am used to yum
[03:17] <morghanphoenix> I forgot the multiplier
[03:17] <nix_ferret> err, 64x8000 ??
[03:18] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:18] <Madpilot> imbecile, apt, or apt-get/aptitude/Synaptic
[03:18] <nova> cedega
[03:18] <imbecile> madpilot, thanks
[03:19] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file? from the desktop
[03:19] <webmaren> morganphoenix MB = 1024KB
[03:19] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:20] <SoulChild> Yo i love Ubuntu
[03:20] <nova> me 2 :)
[03:20] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:21] <SoulChild> ***webmaren :D
[03:22] <nova> how do I install a cpkg file?
[03:22] <webmaren> lol greg_ got coronated hehe
[03:22] <webmaren> nova: if nobody answers, nobody has answer
[03:22] <nova> sorry
[03:22] <nova> thought they just did not give a damn
[03:22] <webmaren> nova: please don't keep repeating the same question again and again
[03:22] <nova> sorry
[03:23] <Virtuall> what is cpkg?
[03:23] <nova> beats me
[03:23] <djm62> Is banshee on ubuntu 6.10 with ~1300 files known for being quite slow (using up 100% CPU on changing from viewing "Music Library" to "ipod" for long enough to read a longish webpage?)
[03:23] <nova> its a file that cedega is on
[03:24] <Virtuall> :
[03:24] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, Amarok isn't, neither is Quod Libre or RhythmBox, I would venture to guess that Banshee isn't either >.>
[03:24] <djm62> I've googled it, and tried removing ~.gnome2/banshee but with no effect
[03:25] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: I used rhythmbox and it was absolutely fine, but I got a gift of an iPod- I'm still trying to calibrate my expectations of normal behaviour with one
[03:25] <Music_Shuffle> >.>?
[03:25] <Music_Shuffle> Why Banshee?
[03:25] <Music_Shuffle> You can sync with other programs.
[03:25] <monArch> and now discconect
[03:26] <djm62> I can sync wth gtkpod and banshee- if I can sync with anything else, I have no idea how to do it, hence moving from software I was pretty much happy with
[03:26] <nova> ok im back :)
[03:26] <MTecknology> is anybody in here extremely bored?
[03:27] <lubix> MTecknology, did you ever get that keyboard working
[03:27] <MTecknology> lubix, ya it was a BIOS thing
[03:27] <grzesiekP> hi
[03:27] <djm62> assez bored
[03:27] <squiggly> i'd like to lubix your assfole
[03:27] <MTecknology> lubix, you bored?
[03:27] <lubix> squiggly,
[03:27] <MTecknology> by bored, i mean EXTREMELY
[03:27] <lubix> that was uncalled for
[03:27] <grzesiekP> can I find somebody  using beryl?
[03:27] <lubix> grzesiekP, im using beryl
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> Hai?
[03:28] <squiggly> where is chanserv
[03:28] <MTecknology> grzesiekP, i do, probably can't help
[03:28] <grzesiekP> what vc you need for this candy?
[03:28] <lubix> VC?
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> VC?
[03:28] <squiggly> DCC SEND FAGGOTDETECTOR 0 0 0
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[03:28] <grzesiekP> video card
[03:28] <lubix> any...
[03:28] <Music_Shuffle> grzesiekP, you should be fine with almost any really.
[03:28] <lubix> it is a bit complicated to set it up
[03:29] <MTecknology> grzesiekP, long as you use 6.10, troubles with 6.06
[03:29] <nix_ferret> I think he's too lazy to type video card
[03:29] <grzesiekP> GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x will do?
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> Try it.
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> I bet you can run it at least minimally.
[03:29] <lubix> you need AIGXL...
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> With a 6800 I can run in total.
[03:29] <MTecknology> LjL, why the bans?
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> AIGLX is default in Edgy.
[03:29] <LjL> Ubotu, tell MTecknology about exploit | MTecknology, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:29] <nix_ferret> Did I get banned?
[03:29] <nix_ferret> err, kicked
[03:29] <lubix> Music_Shuffle, i didnt have it installed by default
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, do you have like...a keybinding for that or something?
[03:29] <Music_Shuffle> lubix, its default!
[03:30] <webmaren> LjL, how many people are you gonna ban
[03:30] <MTecknology> LjL, interesting... tought love
[03:30] <AfterDeath_> LjL: WAIT
[03:30] <Music_Shuffle> All the exploited ones.
[03:30] <AfterDeath_> you didn't make a redirecting ban
[03:30] <lubix> well i had to enable it first before it would let me use beryl
[03:30] <AfterDeath_> LjL: they won't get sent to the right channel
[03:30] <webmaren> LjL: ...
[03:30] <LjL> agh
[03:30] <ezenu> ubotu, tell ezenu about exploit
[03:30] <DBO> LjL, redirect bans buddy
[03:30] <LjL> ...
[03:30] <nix_ferret> Come on linksys don't fail me now...!
[03:30] <SoulChild> HEY How can i configure my sound devices in gnome ?
[03:30] <crimsun> SoulChild: by using System> Preferences> Sound
[03:31] <Music_Shuffle> SoulChild, System --> Preferences --> Sound?
[03:31] <_226> /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:31] <_226> /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:31] <_226> /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[03:31] <_226> hate it.
[03:31] <crimsun> _226: so generate the necessary locales.
[03:31] <grzesiekP> thank you guys, back to work, see you soon!
[03:31] <SoulChild> Music_Shuffle: hmm, i mean: i have two devices to choose there but i only want the OSS device.... how can i remove the alsa device
[03:31] <nix_ferret> !topic
[03:31] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> SoulChild, if you switch, you can just leave the ALSA one, can't you?
[03:32] <nix_ferret> Ok, what is this router problem
[03:32] <grzesiekP> this channel looks like one arm bandit ;o) bye for now
[03:32] <Sebboh> LjL,
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> !exploit
[03:32] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[03:32] <Sebboh> what's this?  Are those non-idented users?
[03:32] <Music_Shuffle> nix_ferret, that was for you.
[03:32] <SoulChild> Music_Shuffle: Yes but the problem is, that my hotkeys don't work properly on the alsa device, and it won't be fixed unless Alsa is uninstalled...
[03:33] <nix_ferret> cool, thx
[03:33] <LjL> Sebboh: no, see Ubotu above
[03:33] <Music_Shuffle> And Sebboh could read that too :P
[03:33] <LjL> sorry for the mistake people
[03:33] <melon_> ok - i've been instructed to do: sudo make install <-- i get a response saying make: command not found.. (still new) - what's it mean 'n how can i fix it?
[03:33] <SoulChild> Music_Shuffle, coul'd it be dangerous if i remove the alsa packages
[03:33] <Music_Shuffle> SoulChild, no idea then, sorry. I've never removed it myself. >.>
[03:33] <SoulChild> okay thanks
[03:33] <sheri> how do i reinstall the grub
[03:33] <Music_Shuffle> !grub
[03:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:34] <webmaren> oh I figured it out now, somebody if screwing with their routers and so LjL is just trying to protect the people on the channel
[03:34] <melon_> lol - nm
[03:34] <nn> how do i switch io schedulers to deadline at runtime?
[03:35] <LjL> webmaren: and trying to make it less interesting for people to try the exploit in the first place
[03:35] <webmaren> ah
[03:35] <webmaren> i see clearly now
[03:35] <gaten> I'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?
[03:35] <nix_ferret> Is there a list of routers or something so I can see if mine is on it. I think I use 6667 for emule too
[03:36] <Sebboh> My client didn't mention any incoming DCC requests.  ...The irc client has to respond first, of course.  The initial DCC handshake goes over IRC protocol only.
[03:36] <LjL> Sebboh: there was no *real* DCC request
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> nix_ferret, its a port exploit based on client.
[03:36] <kitche> nix_ferret: if you didn't get disconnected then your fine
[03:36] <Music_Shuffle> You're here. ;P
[03:36] <nix_ferret> schweet
[03:37] <vulcanius> ...i've had the same 3 emails in my inbox all month....
[03:37] <vulcanius> i feel so alone
[03:38] <Music_Shuffle> Its k, I get no mail either.
[03:38] <Music_Shuffle> Usually anyways.
[03:38] <gaten> send your email to a spam list, you'll feel real popular then
[03:38] <webmaren> i once stopped checking my email for like 2 mos
[03:38] <vulcanius> lol
[03:38] <webmaren> i had 123 messages
[03:38] <vulcanius> email is so 2006 anyways
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> vulcanius,  so whats the new rage?
[03:38] <webmaren> i was like "whoa"
[03:39] <vulcanius> I think last I heard the clothing stores were trying to bring back snail mail
[03:39] <vulcanius> kinda like a retro style
[03:39] <webmaren> vuclanius: roflol
[03:39] <vulcanius> with eggshell envelopes
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> !snail mail
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snail mail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> thats crazy
[03:39] <webmaren> bwahahaha
[03:39] <vulcanius> yeah
[03:39] <webmaren> snail mail is so pathetic
[03:39] <Sebboh> LjL, fake ones are just irc CTCPs, too. =)  ..I can see how such a thing could be a problem, if the user's client accepts the request and tries to connect, and the bad guy specifies the same port the user is using for her irc connection (... the LOCAL port...) *AND* the router has fubar nat.  Heh.  Not bloody likely.
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> it is.
[03:39] <webmaren> i got a letter from my host brother in Japan (I live in MD, USA)
[03:40] <Sebboh> Oh, there's 833 people in there.  I guess that that changes things..  Target rich environment. =P
[03:40] <baxter_kylie> can anyone tell me where I change the default program for a filetype in gnome/nautilus/firefox/etc ?
[03:40] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic
[03:40] <webmaren> on like Dec 27
[03:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:40] <Music_Shuffle> ;P
[03:40] <LjL> Sebboh: it's not a problem with the *clients*, it's a problem with their routers. and it doesn't even have to be a CTCP
[03:40] <webmaren> it was dated Dec 1
[03:40] <LjL> but yeah we're badly offtopic
[03:40] <webmaren> i was like, damn
[03:40] <vulcanius> webmaren: lol, wasn't the suspense just killing you?
[03:40] <weem> godamnit wep just BE CRACKED
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:41] <gaten> baxter_kylie:  in nautilus, right click on the file and click on the "open with" tab
[03:41] <weem> im gonna kcik ur ass
[03:41] <webmaren> vulcanius: I wasn't actually expecting anything
[03:41] <LjL> !language | weem
[03:41] <ubotu> weem: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <weem> :(
[03:41] <baxter_kylie> gaten: that changes it permanently?
[03:41] <weem> the a word...my bad
[03:41] <gaten> baxter_kylie:  it should yes
[03:41] <webmaren> vulcanius: I emailed him my resonse
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> weem, what makes you think wep must be cracked?
[03:41] <webmaren> vulcanius: Probably arrived about 3 minutes after i sent it
[03:41] <karat> I've got mplayer on my dapper kubuntu system, for some reason a lot of .wmv files won't play
[03:41] <karat> Is there a win32codec package or something?
[03:42] <weem> cus i need this key...so it must be :)
[03:42] <Sebboh> LjL, well something is missing from the story. *shrug*
[03:42] <webmaren> vulcanius: there's a comparision for ya
[03:42] <djm62> anyway, a couple of questions: has anyone found banshee to be (extremely, if I wasn't patient I'd kill the process thinking it had crashed) slow with ~1300 files, and how long does it take to update a few (4) albums on ipod (almost 50min here)?
[03:42] <vulcanius> lol
[03:42] <Music_Shuffle> 50 minutes?!
[03:42] <gaten> I'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?
[03:42] <Music_Shuffle> What's total size of the albums you're moving?
[03:43] <MTecknology> so, no extremely bored ppl?
[03:43] <thelubix> yes i am
[03:43] <thelubix> i want to jump
[03:43] <Music_Shuffle> I am, but we congregate in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:43] <Music_Shuffle> :D
[03:44] <MTecknology> thelubix, i need help setting up my server
[03:44] <webmaren> ciao going exclusively to offtopic
[03:44] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: they're being converted from .ogg too, but using gtkpod it takes a few minutes for an mp3-encoded album: not unusable, but makes me wonder if USB isn't at full speed
[03:44] <MTecknology> thelubix, just moved from windows and kept some things on my HD
[03:44] <thelubix> like what?
[03:44] <Music_Shuffle> gtkpod moves 1 album in ~3 minutes.
[03:44] <voraistos> Hello guys!(and girls, if applicable :) )
[03:44] <Music_Shuffle> Hi0,
[03:45] <MTecknology> thelubix, mysql database, web sites - 3 of em
[03:45] <thelubix> i should put up a website
[03:45] <thelubix> and complain on it
[03:45] <thelubix> no one would read it
[03:45] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: when I close banshee it gets to "The window "Banshee Music Player" is not responding."
[03:45] <karat> Is there nothing in ubuntu for mplayer w32codecs?
[03:45] <Music_Shuffle> thelubix, hush! ;P
[03:45] <MTecknology> thelubix, any help?
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> karat, eh?  Lol.
[03:46] <karat> Music_Shuffle, where?
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> !win32
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> Err...
[03:46] <SeanPint> hey whats a good starter distro?
[03:46] <Music_Shuffle> !proprietary
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proprietary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <thelubix> win32 is a API
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> .../sigh.
[03:47] <nix_ferret> SeanPint, ubuntu
[03:47] <thelubix> Music_Shuffle, what do you want to know?
[03:47] <eimajenthat> Howdo.  Running Ubuntu Edgy Eft, and I just installed VMWare server.  I was going through the config script, and then it said it couldn't find the super-server.  Wants me to install inetd or xinetd.  I think I read somewhere that Edgy uses something snazzier than these now?  Is that correct?  And if so, how do I convince VMWare to use the snazzier thing?
[03:47] <thelubix> SeanPint, this one
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> SeanPint, Ubuntu is pretty simple.
[03:47] <SeanPint> is it easy to install etc?
[03:47] <nix_ferret> I recommend 6.10
[03:47] <SeanPint> i got a crap old laptop i want to use it on
[03:47] <thelubix> i reccomdent 7.04 alpha
[03:47] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: not sure about doing that while connected to a removable disk with a mysterious database rather than a normal filesystem... I know it won't do any permanent harm but it's inelegant :-S
[03:47] <Music_Shuffle> SeanPint, IIRC, its something like 6 clicks + your name and computer name in total to install.
[03:47] <eimajenthat> SeanPint: if the laptop's slow, consider Xubuntu
[03:48] <MTecknology> thelubix, helping me out would help avoid the isolation feeling
[03:48] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, Lol. True.  Why use Banshee over the default and over Amarok and GTKpod?
[03:48] <Sebboh> LjL, ok, it seems that the affected routers are content aware: they are parsing the IRC stream.  That's why the client doesn't need to respond.  That's what I gather from the CVE, anyway..  *shrug* Back to work.
[03:48] <thelubix> try fluxbox
[03:48] <nix_ferret> I tried centos, rhel, etc, and ubuntu. ubuntu had the best h/w support, was easy to install and seemed easy for n00bs like me
[03:48] <SeanPint> its terrible, its only a old skool 1.1 celeron with 256 ram
[03:48] <thelubix> id say ubuntu is hands down the best linux distro about
[03:48] <ddaemon> Hello,
[03:48] <thelubix> SeanPint, youd be fine with fluxbox or xfce
[03:49] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: I'm going to look again at rhythmbox, but my (2G nano) ipod definitely wasn't working on it before
[03:49] <eimajenthat> SeanPint: 1.1 GHz?
[03:49] <voraistos> I want to set up a file server... on an already running server. The nfs shares part is not the problem. In fact i would like to add 2 discs(IDE) and make them work in one partition only (whatever the partition is). Thing is i dont know anything about raid, lvm, and what i should do.... (PS: there is no way i am reinstalling the system, and i would like to keep the existing data as well, if possible)
[03:49] <SeanPint> aye
[03:49] <ddaemon> I have a Lenovo X60s that hangs on startup when plugged into the dock
[03:49] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, so take it off the dock. Ohh!
[03:49] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, odd...really?
[03:49] <eimajenthat> SeanPint: That's not that slow.  I ran Ubuntu like a champ on a PIII 750MHz, with hacking it up
[03:49] <ddaemon> nix ferret, that's not a solution, but it works
[03:50] <nix_ferret> lol
[03:50] <thelubix> anyone want help?
[03:50] <thelubix> ill have some
[03:50] <ddaemon> it hangs when checking all file systems (fsck)
[03:50] <harry> !nvidia
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <eimajenthat> thelubix: What's the thing edgy has instead of inetd?
[03:50] <djm62> Music_Shuffle: ah, whatever I changed to get auto-mounting has succeeded in making it show in rhythmbox.  I may look silly now, but I'll have tunes tomorrow!  thanks a lot for the advice
[03:50] <ddaemon> i think it has something to do with the fact that the dock has the CDROM drive in it
[03:50] <thelubix> inetd?
[03:50] <e\ectro_> whats the package in the package manager that is used to install all the common apps for ubuntu
[03:50] <ddaemon> eima, it's call upstart
[03:51] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, does the lenovo hang when you boot docked, when you dock while it's on, or both?
[03:51] <Tomcat_> eimajenthat: edgy doesn't need inetd because it runs services as daemons.
[03:51] <ddaemon> just when I boot while docked
[03:51] <kitche> e\ectro_: ubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <Music_Shuffle> djm62, GL :D
[03:51] <thelubix> kubuntu-desktop
[03:51] <e\ectro_> kitche: I thought it was like accessorize
[03:51] <e\ectro_> or something
[03:51] <voraistos> #kubuntu is somewhere else pal
[03:52] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, did you try changing your bios settings to not recognize the dock CD as a 'bootable' device?
[03:52] <eimajenthat> Tomcat_: Cool, how do I tell VMware server?
[03:52] <kitche> eimajenthat: upstart is just the init system
[03:52] <Tomcat_> eimajenthat: What does it want to know?
[03:52] <Tomcat_> eimajenthat: You can install inetd if you need it.
[03:52] <djaka> I just did a fresj install of ubuntu 6.10 and it never prompted me for a root password so how do I change it
[03:53] <ddaemon> nix_ferret, I don't think that's the problem because it's already booting into ubuntu when it hangs
[03:53] <kitche> djaka: ubuntu doesn't use root
[03:53] <eimajenthat> kitche: Thanks, I think that's what I was thinking of.  Obviously I was thinking of the wrong thing, but at least now it has a name.
[03:53] <kitche> !sudo|djaka
[03:53] <ubotu> djaka: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:53] <SeanPint> just looking at xubuntu, looks alright
[03:53] <voraistos> pretty slow for gtk softs though
[03:53] <djaka> Ok well does that mean I can not use graphical config tools as they prompt for a root password
[03:54] <thelubix> SeanPint, you should save up and buy a mac
[03:54] <ddaemon> but it's worth toying around in the bios.  I'll check
[03:54] <eimajenthat> Tomcat_: http://pastey.net/4121
[03:54] <reiki> ok who understands UUIDs? I'm trying to get an understanding. If , for example, /dev/hda1 has a UUID of 12345-1234 and then you physically move that drive so it's /dev/hdb1, the UUID still points to it? I don't understand what mechanism allows this to happen
[03:54] <SeanPint> i cant afford a mac
[03:54] <Music_Shuffle> djaka, for those, your user password is your 'root password'.
[03:54] <voraistos> djaka: you can type sudo passwd to change the root password
[03:54] <Nighteye> sup
[03:54] <nix_ferret> SeanPint, you should save up and buy and IBM/Clone and run OSX.. :p
[03:54] <SeanPint> was only 50 quid for this laptop so cant complain :D
[03:54] <djaka> ok thanks guys
[03:55] <Tomcat_> reiki: UUIDs are set when you format the partition... it's like a file on your partition that can be found and 100% correctly identify the partition.
[03:55] <reiki> Tomcat_,  ok... but WHERE on the partition is the UUID information ?
[03:55] <Music_Shuffle> ?
[03:55] <Music_Shuffle> UUID information like the kind in /etc/fstab?
[03:56] <eimajenthat> Tomcat_:  I'd rather not install it if I don't need it, but I don't know enough to work around it
[03:56] <nix_ferret> Is there a way to get the 'recovery' mode to require a user login instead of bootinf strait to root?
[03:56] <un_operateur> reiki, a UUID helps if you want to keep that as a volume label but change the physical device e.g. replace /dev/hda
[03:56] <reiki> un_operateur, I understand that part. I am trying to find out HOW
[03:56] <voraistos> anybody knows anything about raid and lvm ?
[03:56] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, you can passwd protect alternative boot options
[03:56] <Music_Shuffle> !raid
[03:56] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:56] <Music_Shuffle> ubotu clearly does :P
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clearly does :P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <Tomcat_> reiki: In the filesystem header.
[03:57] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, then they would need a pass to goto recovery mode
[03:57] <voraistos> seen that already, but it doesnt help a lot
[03:57] <voraistos> Music_Shuffle
[03:57] <un_operateur> reiki, the UUIDs are just synlinks to devices -- thats all -- you find them in the /dev/disk directory
[03:57] <Music_Shuffle> :(
[03:57] <reiki> Tomcat_, so... not someplace where I could go look at it
[03:57] <Tomcat_> reiki: At the beginning of the filesystem there is some info, like what FS (ext3, ntfs, reiser3/4, ...), where tree information is stored, etc...
[03:57] <reiki> un_operateur, the UUID has to be somewhere other than in those symlinks
[03:57] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, does anybody know how to determine the block size of a partition when its superblock is hosed?
[03:57] <crimsun> reiki: see the source code for vol_id(8).
[03:57] <Tomcat_> reiki: Sure you can... ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[03:58] <Tomcat_> reiki: Or vol_id, yes.
[03:58] <un_operateur> reiki, have a look for yourself
[03:58] <nix_ferret> LameBMX, I did that. It just doesn't seen too secure, but if someone has physical access your over anyway.
[03:58] <alex-weej> reiki: the UUID of a partition never changes, unlike it's kernel-assigned name (e.g. sdc4, hdb3)
[03:58] <voraistos> Well, i suppose i wil have to experiment and make a wiki entry myslef.......
[03:58] <pauldaoust> (I want to restore the superblock from its backup, but I have to figure out the block size too, so I know what offset the backup is at.)
[03:58] <reiki> alex-weej, wrong. I have CHANGED the UUID of a partition
[03:58] <Tomcat_> reiki: UUIDs are also made to be different between computers all over the world, so if you had access to all disks in the world at the same time you could theoretically identify them by UUID.
[03:58] <dolphin> i am using gaim and cannot get msn instant messager to work, does anyone know what i need to do to use msn messanger on gaim
[03:58] <alex-weej> reiki: never changes under normal use. sheesh!
[03:59] <alex-weej> reiki: that's the whole point of it, swap your disks around controllers and linux won't boot if you use /dev/sd* identifiers in your fstab
[03:59] <voraistos> dolphin: works out of the box pal
[03:59] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, thats supposing a lot of things, but there is no guarantee that two computers will not produce the same UUID
[03:59] <alex-weej> reiki: whereas with UUIDs, as long as the disk is in your system somewhere, it'll work :)
[03:59] <kitche> dolphin: if it's not working hten MS played with their network again
[03:59] <Nighteye> secret
[03:59] <seb-> how activate sleep mode ?
[04:00] <reiki> alex-weej, yes I understand WHY they are there. I am just trying to understand more about how they work. What "ties" tehm to a particular file system
[04:00] <dolphin> thanks that may be it
[04:00] <Tomcat_> un_operateur: That's why I said in theory. I skimmed the UUID standard, and it's supposed to work... but not guaranteed. :)
[04:00] <un_operateur> reiki, IIRC is it udev that controls the creation and linking of UUIDs -- and you are under no obligation to use them
[04:00] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto ... 1-2-2-e has info about locking out alternative boot options in grub
[04:00] <Tomcat_> reiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_Unique_Identifier <--- standard is linked and explained there
[04:01] <crimsun> you could, of course, heed what we've been saying regarding vol_id(8)'s source code...
[04:01] <reiki> so if I understand this correctly... if I switch things around physically... and I get confused about which UUID belongs where. I can mount the partition, go to it, and use vol_id to see what the UUID is?
[04:01] <pauldaoust> does anyone have any idea how to determine the blocksize on an ext2 partition when the superblock is hosed?
[04:01] <Tomcat_> reiki: Yes.
[04:01] <reiki> Tomcat_, I read that. I understood parts of it :)
[04:01] <crimsun> reiki: sure. vol_id -u foo.
[04:02] <LameBMX> nix_ferret, yea physical access is hard to avoid .. best you can do is make it a pain in the bugger for them .. unless you feel like putting your comp in a save and entering in a safe combination everytime you need to put in a cd or hardboot your computer
[04:02] <Asc> Does that mean I can delete the UUID things in /boot/grub/*lst and /etc/fstab, replace them with the old /dev/hd[whatever]  and not break anything?
[04:02] <crimsun> Asc: correct.
[04:02] <reiki> crimsun, can you do like.... vol_id -u /dev/hda1 even if /dev/hda1 is not mounted?
[04:02] <reiki> or must it be mounted?
[04:02] <LameBMX> nix cuz they can always livecd .. and chroot into your fs and have root that way
[04:02] <Tomcat_> reiki: Yes.
[04:02] <crimsun> Asc: unless of course you have a situation that -necessitates- mounting by uuid, in which case you'll find yourself in an eye-stabbity mood.
[04:02] <Tomcat_> reiki: No need to mount it.
[04:03] <nix_ferret> I just put a bunch of rare earth maganets in the door jamb
[04:03] <reiki> ok.... starting to make sense. The actual UUID is in the file system header. Not like in a file or something
[04:03] <Tomcat_> reiki: Doesn't really matter if it's in a file or in the fs header... at least not technically.
[04:04] <reiki> Tomcat_,  ok.... but trying to understand if there's a way to "harvest" all of the UUIDs from a system. I would do that with vol_id... right?
[04:04] <Tomcat_> reiki: Or by using "ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid", yes.
[04:05] <Tomcat_> Because for vol_id, you need to know what partitions exist.
[04:05] <reiki> I ask this because right now I have a swap partition that apparently doesn't have a UUID according to /dev/disk/by-uuid, blkid, whatever
[04:05] <reiki> and even if I don't want to reference a swap partition by UUID, it can still HAVE one.
[04:06] <Tomcat_> reiki: Did you hibernate to the swap partition recently?
[04:06] <robtp> can anyone help me with mounting a hfs+ partition user-readable?
[04:06] <reiki> I don't hibernate
[04:06] <Tomcat_> Mh.
[04:06] <reiki> in fact I have not yet seen my swap in use. I have 2 gigs of ram
[04:07] <flyinghippo> Is it possible to create a script file in Ubuntu/Linux?  (Similar to a DOS Batch Files)
[04:07] <Tomcat_> reiki: Yeah, with 1 or 2 gig of ram you rarely need swap.
[04:07] <seb-> reiki: how suspend/hibernate? right clicking on 'battery charge monitor' doesn't have those options
[04:07] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Absolutely, in a variety of languages.
[04:07] <reiki> and if I do vol_id -u /dev/hdb5 (the swap partition) I get Error open volume
[04:08] <crimsun> requires root privileges.
[04:08] <flyinghippo> Tomcat_: What about a Terminal script?
[04:08] <n0cturnal_> since installing 6.10 onto my laptop the network adapter seems to keep dieing the moment I put more than about 10kb/sec of traffic through it... only way to get it back is to reboot.. any ideas?
[04:08] <reiki> ahh
[04:08] <seb-> What panel icon has suspend/hibernate options?
[04:08] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Create a new file, put "#!/usr/bin/bash" in the first line, then put in all the commands you want to use... make the file executable, and you're done.
[04:08] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Terminal script?
[04:08] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: Check dmesg/syslog output.
[04:08] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, I think he means "shell script"
[04:08] <reiki> crimsun, sudo vol_id -u /dev/hdb5 still gives me that error
[04:08] <Tomcat_> seb-: gnome-power-manager
[04:08] <flyinghippo> Tomcat_: A script that will carry out commands through terminal.
[04:08] <crimsun> reiki: and /dev/hdb5 is valid?
[04:09] <Tomcat_> flyinghippo: Yeah, that's what I meant.
[04:09] <reiki> yes
[04:09] <varsendaggr> hey does knoppix have ntfs r/wr   function?
[04:09] <crimsun> reiki: what does fdisk -l say about /dev/hdb ?
[04:09] <flyinghippo> I can't enter the "d" character in terminal, so I'm going to have to resort to scripting.
[04:09] <n0cturnal_> NETDEV_TX_BUSY returned.. is the only message I get. any ideas?
[04:09] <morphwvutuba> has anybody here ever used yahoo game channel?
[04:09] <seb-> Tomcat_: thanks
[04:09] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: ages ago. (but not with Linux)
[04:10] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: I can only suggest to test the components singled out... try the network card somewhere else, try the access point somewhere else, etc.
[04:10] <ddaemon> so I installed ubuntu desktop, but I'm thinking about removing things like open office.  This forces me to remove the package "ubuntu-desktop".  Is this a problem?
[04:10] <n0cturnal_> tis a laptop, not wireless
[04:10] <reiki> crimsun: ack!  I was supposed to be typing sdb5
[04:10] <morphwvutuba> paul - it used to work with linux, now they're telling me i have to use IE & windows
[04:10] <reiki> I'll try again :)
[04:10] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: If you upgrade it will be... otherwise, no.
[04:10] <un_operateur> reiki, have you checked your /etc/fstab -- mine has a UUID for the swap partition
[04:10] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: Your wired connection is dying? o_O
[04:11] <n0cturnal_> yah
[04:11] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: poop. Well, maybe you can have success tricking Yahoo by installing the User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox
[04:11] <seb-> Tomcat_: WHERE is gnome-power-manager in the maze of choice to "Add To Panel"? I can't find it :/
[04:11] <ddaemon> Tomcat_, upgade meaning to feisty?
[04:11] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: You should reinstall ubuntu-desktop before upgrading. Apart from that, there won't be problems *probably*.
[04:11] <DrBanzai> I have a .bin/.toc set of files, that I need to burn to CD using an ATAPI burner...possible?
[04:11] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Yeah, to feisty.
[04:11] <crimsun> DrBanzai: perhaps cdrdao + bchunk ?
[04:11] <morphwvutuba> pauldaoust: i knew nothing of that extension
[04:11] <reiki> un_operateur, yeah I'm trying to strqaighten up after cloning /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda1 and I have a feeling it's using the swap on /dev/hda5 as the swap file
[04:11] <n0cturnal_> Tomcat_: was working fine in dapper, in edgy its just crappin itself
[04:12] <crimsun> don't remember offhand if cdrdao handles tocs.
[04:12] <ddaemon> Tomcat, what if I put "alternate" on instead, could I then do an upgrade to feisty?
[04:12] <Tomcat_> seb-: It will be automatically added if you run gnome-power-manager and if it is configured to show up. But you can suspend/hibernate from the logout menu as well.
[04:12] <ddaemon> seamlessly?
[04:12] <Tomcat_> n0cturnal_: Weird. :\
[04:12] <DrBanzai> crimsun, Well, when I go google for bchunk, it only mentions .bin and .cue files, does that matter?
[04:12] <un_operateur> reiki, you should update fstab to reflect the changes, if you want them made i.e.
[04:12] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Nope. For upgrades you *need* ubuntu-desktop.
[04:12] <reiki> I know I can just change fstab to use the device names like /dev/sdb5 for the swap, but I want to do this with UUIDs because I think that's how it's SUPPOSED to work
[04:12] <nix_ferret> Anyone know the acpi commands to dim/brighten the lcd on a laptop?
[04:13] <crimsun> DrBanzai: you can use cdrdao according to its man page.
[04:13] <morphwvutuba> thanks for the tip, paul
[04:13] <tyme> will ubuntu create a kde/gnome kicker like the new opensuse 10.2
[04:13] <tyme> ?
[04:13] <ddaemon> alright, Tomcat, good to know
[04:13] <defiant> Does anyone know of a way (free) to run Office XP? Along with some other windows aps? I have wine installed but it is just not cutting it.
[04:13] <crimsun> DrBanzai: "Instead of a toc-file a cue file (used by a famous DOS/Windows  mastering tool) may be used. See the CUE FILES section for more details."
[04:13] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: no prob. give it a shot; doesn't work for Yahoo Music, but it works for other sites that 'require' IE. In some cases Firefox works better than IE on IE-specific sites.
[04:13] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: As long as you're not upgrading, there's no problem.
[04:13] <DrBanzai> crimsun, Okay, but I also read that cdrdao won't work with ATAPI burners, only SCSI, and I had no luck getting scsi emulation to work
[04:13] <Owner> hey, anyone know if the new hybrid drives coming out early in 2007 will be compatible with existing systems? for example, will I be able to replace my laptop's hd with a hybrid drive when they come out?
[04:14] <crimsun> DrBanzai: it works fine w/ atapi.
[04:14] <Tomcat_> Owner: hybrid what?
[04:14] <DrBanzai> crimsun, Shiney, I'll give it a shot.  Thanks!
[04:14] <un_operateur> Owner, errm, off-topic
[04:14] <morphwvutuba> pauldaoust:  i've noticed that, both at home and with some intranet .asp pages we've got at work.
[04:14] <nix_ferret> defiant, you might be stuck making a virtual machine to run that. That is M$'s big selling point - they make it hard to run otherwise.
[04:14] <pauldaoust> morphwvutuba: :)
[04:14] <tyme> will ubuntu create a kde/gnome kicker like the new opensuse 10.2
[04:15] <maddash> does anyone here use openbox alone with x-serv?
[04:15] <seb-> Tomcat_: i ran logout menu and gnome-power-managment....neither had option to suspend visible!? sorry to ask
[04:15] <Owner> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive
[04:15] <defiant> nix_ferret, Is there a tutorial or something to do that?
[04:15] <gaten> I'm having trouble connecting to a smaba share on my ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop. i can connect from windows just fine. the problem is it wont accept my password, but ive set it up with smbpasswd on the server and tested it on windows and still no go. any thoughts?
[04:15] <kitche> maddash: used to
[04:15] <Tomcat_> seb-: What are you missing? Suspend can be enabled easily, but hibernate *should* be there.
[04:15] <seb-> Tomcat_: well....logout menu has Hibernate but not Suspend
[04:15] <Tomcat_> seb-: Ah, alright... wait.
[04:16] <nix_ferret> defiant,  use vmware for linux
[04:16] <ddaemon> Tomcat, I like to stay current, so I'll probably keep the ubuntu-desktop package on there
[04:16] <maddash> kitche: what happened?
[04:16] <Tomcat_> seb-: Prefs => Power Management... turn some option to "suspend", then change it back... it should ask you if you want to enable suspend.
[04:16] <kitche> maddash: nothing openbox will make it look like nothing was there but if you right click a menu should pop up
[04:16] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Probably a good idea yeah.... I don't use f-spot either, but I just keep it.
[04:17] <reiki> when I just type "mount" ... should it show swap partitions mounted?
[04:17] <defiant> nix_ferret thank you very much
[04:17] <kitche> reiki: no swap doesn't show up in mount
[04:17] <nix_ferret> defiant, you'd need a copy of XP to set it up
[04:17] <nix_ferret> np
[04:17] <reiki> kitche, whew! :)  thanks
[04:17] <Tomcat_> Owner: They are ATA drives, so they will be compatible.
[04:17] <seb-> Tomcat_: yay! you got it! thanks!
[04:17] <ddaemon> Tomcat, f-spot?
[04:18] <Tomcat_> ddaemon: Foto manager
[04:18] <Owner> Tomcat_: sweet!
[04:18] <ddaemon> ah
[04:18] <defiant> nix_ferrt, I have an OEM version. Will that work?
[04:18] <BigBamBo> Hello all
[04:18] <maddash> kitche: I meant, why did you "use to"?
[04:18] <Bradaphraser> hello
[04:18] <Tomcat_> Owner: Sounds pretty good actually... never heard of that.
[04:19] <maddash> kitche: how'd you get startx to run automatically?
[04:19] <maddash> kitche: and did you use gdm/kdm?
[04:19] <nix_ferret> defiant, It should, find a keygen if you don't have a key
[04:19] <kitche> maddash: I use e17 now
[04:19] <ddaemon> nix_ferret, I'm updating my lenovo bios (it was madly out of date) and i just thought you should know that it is wildly beeping at me...is that good?
[04:19] <Bradaphraser> out of curiosity, my compy insists I only have 100 MB, when I know I have 20 Gig
[04:19] <ddaemon> :)
[04:19] <losmon> hello
[04:19] <Bradaphraser> I've tried re-installing while formatting harddrive
[04:19] <Owner> anyone have a Thinkpad Z61t>
[04:19] <loderunner> X-Chat isn't letting me join different channels
[04:19] <Bradaphraser> and it just laughs at me
[04:19] <Owner> ?
[04:19] <defiant> nix_ferret.   Why are you trying to install anything?"
[04:20] <losmon> how can see my cpu usage & ram & uptime and other useful things on my desktop?
[04:20] <dosnlinux> can wma files (after all the codecs are installed) be burned to an audio cd?
[04:20] <Tomcat_> Owner: They might not work perfectly in Linux though... but that will be fixed pretty soon I guess.
[04:20] <Bradaphraser> I think I just need to reformat my hard drive manually, but I have no idea how to do that
[04:20] <maddash> Owner: I've got a T43, if that helps...
[04:20] <BigBamBo> does any one know if there is a active effort to get on the fly rotation forking for tablets
[04:20] <Tomcat_> losmon: Either using gdesklets (Google) or by adding System Monitor to your panels.
[04:21] <un_operateur> losmon, adesktlets, gdesklets, gkrellm. conky, etc
[04:21] <losmon> Thank you
[04:21] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, use fdisk on a floppy or dare I say it, a winxp cd.
[04:21] <Tomcat_> losmon: Or using gkrellm or something.
[04:21] <losmon> which is the best?
[04:21] <Bradaphraser> ugh
[04:21] <loderunner> again, does anyone know why I can't join different channels?  Neither the GUI nor /join #blah works
[04:21] <Owner> I've orderd a Z61t and I'm hoping the screen brightness on the wxga is good enough
[04:21] <Bradaphraser> I hate Windows
[04:21] <loderunner> using Xchat
[04:21] <losmon> and which needs the less cpu usage to work?
[04:21] <Bradaphraser> I guess if that's the only way...
[04:21] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, what type do u need it to be?
[04:21] <kitche> loderunner: you sure you can't what does your status page say?
[04:21] <nix_ferret> fat or ext3?
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> I'm just wanting my compy to run ubuntu
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> even xubuntu, and I'll be happy
[04:22] <Tomcat_> loderunner: Any output from xchat?
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> but it says I have less space than I know I have
[04:22] <loderunner> kitche: status page?
[04:22] <cypruser> Whenever I get try to install Windows XP on VM Player, VM Player always crashes and I get a strange message about reloading the trash. How do I fix this problem?
[04:22] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, ubuntu will format it on install
[04:22] <nix_ferret> just boot live
[04:22] <kitche> loderunner: when you first connect that is the status page
[04:22] <Owner> maddash: do you have the 15"?
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:22] <maddash> Owner: yep
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> when I tried that before, it said I only had 100 MB
[04:22] <Bradaphraser> am I looking at the wrong place?
[04:22] <loderunner> nothing unusual
[04:22] <Owner> maddash: how's the weight?
[04:23] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, is your 'puter an HP or Compaq?
[04:23] <loderunner> hmm
[04:23] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, why did you associate gdesklets with google up there?
[04:23] <loderunner> I just managed to join ##unavailable
[04:23] <Bradaphraser> a good ol' fashioned eMachine
[04:23] <loderunner> I guess that's progress?  lol
[04:23] <loderunner> trying to get to ##java
[04:23] <Bradaphraser> so it's an expensive paperweight, I know
[04:23] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, I think even with them you have to get it to blow away the firsy partition
[04:23] <kitche> loderunner: you have to be registered to join it
[04:23] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, they put a recovery volume on there
[04:23] <loderunner> wtf?
[04:24] <loderunner> ok then...
[04:24] <loderunner> admittedly, I don't use IRC a lot
[04:24] <maddash> Owner: it's like your average college textbook (lighter in most cases)...you can get the official numbers online ( I think it's ~5.6 lbs)
[04:24] <nix_ferret> e-machines are ok
[04:24] <Bradaphraser> so, what should be my next move?
[04:24] <kitche> loderunner: /msg nickserv help register
[04:25] <Mathew> How do i upgrade to Firefox 2?
[04:25] <nix_ferret> when you booted live did you tell it (the second option, me thinks) the erase the whole drive or just the first partition?
[04:25] <kitche> Mathew: you on dapper?
[04:25] <Owner> maddash: did ubuntu install without trouble?
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> I've been trying all day
[04:25] <Mathew> ketche: yes
[04:25] <Tomcat_> un_operateur: Because he needs a special gdesklet to get system info... I'd use Google to find that out. Or maybe just the gdesklets interface...
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> I've selected each, at some time Today
[04:25] <kitche> !backports|Mathew
[04:25] <ubotu> Mathew: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> I even went so far as to try the alternate install
[04:25] <loderunner> thnx
[04:25] <Bradaphraser> or whatever that text-based install is called
[04:25] <kitche> Mathew: Firefox 2.0 is in dapper-backports
[04:25] <un_operateur> Tomcat_, ahh right ok
[04:26] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, I would go so far as to say that a BIOS update may be in order.
[04:26] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[04:26] <CheyenneD> Where do i Themes?
[04:26] <Bradaphraser> so, how would I go about doing that?
[04:26] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, check your bios and see if 2 partions are in there.
[04:26] <maddash> Owner: yep. I had to do it with the standard (not server) install, though, b/c at the time I need wireless support right out of the box. Are you considering installing Ubuntu on the Z61?
[04:26] <morphwvutuba> pauldaoust:  dangit, user agent switcher works as far as the browser check is concerned, but it wants Java, and i can't seem to get past that
[04:26] <DrBanzai> crimsun, It looks like that work.  Thanks again!
[04:26] <DrBanzai> works, even
[04:26] <un_operateur> Mathew, I'd download and install firefox from mozilla.org -- the debian/ubuntu firefox happens to be different to mozilla's
[04:27] <Owner> maddash: yes
[04:27] <Bradaphraser> is there a button I should hit to bring up bios?  Or is it hit-and-miss?
[04:27] <CheyenneD> Where do I get themes?
[04:27] <maddash> Owner: I recommend this site: http://forums.thinkpads.com   . it helped me quite a lot along the way
[04:27] <_226> yey for mplayer -vo aa porno......
[04:27] <nix_ferret> I'm kind of just guessing, but ubuntu might not be "seeing" the who hard drive b/c the bios is not supported.
[04:27] <un_operateur> Bradaphraser, look at what your POST screen says -- it usually has a note on the side/bottom saying which key to press
[04:27] <nix_ferret> whole*
[04:27] <Owner> maddash: yeah, i've been browsing that site. its pretty good.
[04:27] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[04:27] <Tomcat_> CheyenneD: For what? Gnome: art.gnome.org
[04:27] <Bradaphraser> I've got a boot menu
[04:27] <nix_ferret> I imagine the pc is old?
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> that's not what I'm looking for
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> yeah, at least 3 years, I think
[04:28] <un_operateur> Bradaphraser, much before the boot menu -- right after you power up
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> damn
[04:28] <nix_ferret> Hit f2 or esc or something
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> it just has a white splash screen
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> esc got me the boot menu
[04:28] <nix_ferret> slowly tap it after the num lock key lights up
[04:28] <Bradaphraser> I'll try F2
[04:28] <maddash> Owner: word to the wise, however: the default standard install is slow as hell (primarily b/c of gnome). I recommend installing Xubuntu, or, if you have an wired connection available, to go with the "server" setup
[04:28] <un_operateur> Bradaphraser, POST - Power on Self Test -- the stage at which the BIOS detects CPU, memory. peripherals etc
[04:29] <Bradaphraser> aha!
[04:29] <Owner> maddash: why so slow?
[04:29] <Bradaphraser> BIOS!
[04:29] <nix_ferret> All, is what I'm saying seem right? About the bios and all?
[04:29] <maddash> Owner: gnome. and other misc. garbage.
[04:29] <nix_ferret> Is it amibios or american megatrends?
[04:29] <alienseer23> soundhelp, my system recognizes my card, but I get "could not open resource for writing" when I try to test sound with gnome (was trying to get 5.1 audio working, don't know what I did to get this)
[04:29] <Bradaphraser> sys mem 390MB
[04:29] <Tomcat_> nix_ferret: Well, it's sometimes F10 or Del :)
[04:29] <Owner> maddash: I do like the leanness of xubuntu, so I will probably go that route
[04:29] <maddash> Owner: the default install uses nautilus as the file manager and metacity as the window manager
[04:30] <BigBamBo> do you know if there is one of those for toshiba
[04:30] <nix_ferret> Tomcat_, I mean about ubuntu not seeing his whole drive
[04:30] <maddash> Owner: go give it a shot. just be careful when installing your bootloader.
[04:30] <Bradaphraser> it says PhoenixBIOS Steup Utility
[04:30] <Mathew> un_operateur: i downloaded Firefox 2 from Mozilla, but i just have a folder on my desktop now
[04:31] <Owner> maddash: Yeah, I keep a live disc handy so I can fdisk in case I screw up the bootloader install
[04:31] <Tomcat_> nix_ferret: Maybe... not too experiences with this either... I'd need to get my hands on the machine.
[04:31] <maddash> Owner: I've had over a dozen mishaps with my master boot record, but each time was able to restore it with a backed up version via a Knoppix liveCD (and the "dd" utility)
[04:31] <nix_ferret> How big does the bios say your hd is Bradaphraser ?
[04:31] <un_operateur> Mathew, you'll need to extract the package to a location -- mozilla recommends /opt
[04:31] <maddash> Owner: I use grub, it's quite handy
[04:31] <Bradaphraser> system memory 640 KB
[04:31] <Owner> maddash: is grub the standard for ubuntu?
[04:31] <Bradaphraser> extended 390 MB
[04:32] <Bradaphraser> is the hard drive size listed somewhere else?
[04:32] <Bradaphraser> I see the primary master
[04:32] <Tomcat_> Owner: Yes.
[04:32] <maddash> Owner: for breezy (which is what I installed), you've got to choose between LILO and GRUB
[04:32] <maddash> Owner: could be the same deal w/Dapper and Edgy
[04:32] <un_operateur> Mathew, log on as root, at a terminal -- sudo -i  -- and then type this out -- cd /opt; tar zxf ~/firefox*tar.gz
[04:32] <Owner> maddash: cool. I will be installing edgy
[04:32] <Tomcat_> I've never chosen between lilo and grub in any Ubuntu version :)
[04:32] <reiki> I don't recall seeing any mention of Lilo when installing Edgy
[04:33] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, that's your mammories (RAM)
[04:33] <Bradaphraser> haha
[04:33] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:33] <__mikem> I have a question. Does the fact that I can't order edgy CD's from shipit for free have anything to do with shuttleworth not having the money to fund it
[04:33] <Bradaphraser> where does it say my drive space, then?
[04:33] <Tomcat_> __mikem: No.
[04:33] <un_operateur> Mathew, you'll then need to update the firefox link -- mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.bak; ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[04:34] <__mikem> Then WHy do I have to buy edgy cd's
[04:34] <nix_ferret> look around in the menu for hard drives
[04:34] <un_operateur> reiki, Edgy uses grub
[04:34] <jp> Is there anyone here that can give me some pointers on Warty backports?
[04:34] <Bradaphraser> it just says main advanced security
[04:34] <nix_ferret> You're not going to brake anything.
[04:34] <Bradaphraser> etc etc etc
[04:34] <Tomcat_> __mikem: They want to push Ubuntu dapper (6.06), because it's the most stable version. So they don't give away edgy CDs for free.
[04:34] <maddash> Owner: dapper has LTS....just an FYI
[04:34] <reiki> un_operateur, yes I know... I have 2 installs of Edgy on this machine :)
[04:34] <nix_ferret> k, go main and what do you get?
[04:34] <Bradaphraser> in primary master lists my pretty hard drive
[04:35] <un_operateur> jp, errm, warty eh? ok, whats the question?
[04:35] <nix_ferret> there u go.  Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[04:35] <Tomcat_> !feds
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <Tomcat_> Thx Madpilot.
[04:35] <maddash> 0wn3d.
[04:35] <__mikem> Horray for Madpilot our hero
[04:35] <Erb_> When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:35] <nix_ferret> Gotta love that chanserv
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> it doesn't say, unless I'm looking in the wrong place
[04:36] <nix_ferret> sneaky
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> maybe 8.455 Gig
[04:36] <maddash> Owner: oh, if you have an ntfs partition, be sure to defrag before resizing the partitions
[04:36] <element43> how does one go about getting multiple sounds to play in ubuntu?
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> when I change it to "user"
[04:36] <jp> I've been trying to put some backports into my /etc/apt/sources.list and every one says it's a malformed line :p
[04:36] <genius314> Hey can anyone help me configure my resolution? Nothing I try works.
[04:36] <Owner> maddash: how come?
[04:36] <nix_ferret> No, it should be on auto
[04:36] <varsendaggr> hey can i mount an ipod in knoppix
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> I changed it from auto
[04:36] <un_operateur> jp, can you pastebin your sources.list
[04:36] <Bradaphraser> is it part of the huge name?
[04:36] <un_operateur> !paste | jp
[04:36] <ubotu> jp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:37] <Sebboh> What is this, EFnet? :)
[04:37] <nix_ferret> The main page didn't list your hd size?
[04:37] <nix_ferret> or does it now?
[04:37] <Bradaphraser> no, it doesn't
[04:37] <reiki> ok... this may be my last piece of UUID madness... blkid now shows all partitions and their UUID EXCEPT for /dev/sda5 which blkid shows like this : /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap"  ....no UUID. I assume since vol_id comes back empty for that device that it does not HAVE a UUID? And that I should assign one using uuidgen and tune2fs?
[04:37] <Bradaphraser> the advanced area says the CPU speed
[04:37] <Bradaphraser> and the ram
[04:37] <trumpetmic> how do I share files with a windows network without requiring a login for windows users to use the files?
[04:37] <un_operateur> varsendaggr, if debian and ubuntu can mount and use ipods -- so can knoppix
[04:38] <Bradaphraser> but I can't find anything that says my hard drive size
[04:38] <nix_ferret> k, look around and see if there is an option to remove the fancy logo from the startup so you can see the post
[04:38] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:38] <nix_ferret> Don't stab it, it's not a woman...
[04:38] <genius314> Can someone help me configure my resolution?
[04:38] <Bradaphraser> hmm
[04:39] <un_operateur> reiki, you can find out what the swap partitions UUID is through the fstab entry -- and that UUID should exist in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> should I turn off the quickboot mode?
[04:39] <h3xis> genius314, sure
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> would that help anything?
[04:39] <nix_ferret> yes!
[04:39] <maddash> Owner: your ntfs files are actually fragmented across the ntfs partition (which, in most cases, is your entire hard drive)
[04:39] <nix_ferret> that's it
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:39] <Bradaphraser> I'll save and see if that helps
[04:39] <nix_ferret> well, sometimes there is a "logo" option too
[04:39] <Owner> maddash: crap, so there's risk of file loss then?
[04:39] <genius314> h3xis: I'm trying to get it 1280x1024 (which is what I put in xorg.conf), but all I can go up to is 1280x800
[04:39] <nix_ferret> look for the words "Primary IDE"
[04:39] <coolzone> Hi, I need to install ubuntu using a floppy, isn't that possible like on debian?
[04:40] <reiki> un_operateur, it's not in /dev/disk/by-uuid and it's not in fstab. /dev/sda5 is the swap partition for a Dapper install on my first SATA drive. Maybe it didn't GET a UUID?
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> damn
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:40] <maddash> Owner: so when you resize your ntfs partition (ubuntu installer has it's own resizer - pretty neat), you might lose portions of, or even entire, files.
[04:40] <HipotermiA> cual es el canal de espaol de ubuntu ?
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> it just jumped straight into my LIVECD menu
[04:40] <CrocoJet> hello
[04:40] <h3xis> genius314, what vid card and do you have the drivers installed?
[04:40] <nix_ferret> you can hit the "pause" button if it goes too fast
[04:40] <reiki> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:40] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:40] <CrocoJet> someone here use video capture / TV Powercolor Real angel 330 ?
[04:40] <Owner> maddash: pretty crappy!
[04:40] <nix_ferret> enter to resume
[04:41] <jp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/
[04:41] <un_operateur> reiki, if all other partitions are using UUIDs .. it's very very likely the swap partition got one too -- double check fstab,  grep -i swap /etc/fstab
[04:41] <craigbass1976> I have a few questions...  We have been a Fedora house since FC1.  We are now a Fedora family with an Ubuntu basement, but will likely be an Ubuntu house soon.  I need to know why I cna't fire up an app after su-ing in a terminal.  My wife and I fire up thunderbird while the other is logged simply by opening a terminal, su-ing to ourself, and typing thunderbird.  Can't do it in Ubuntu.
[04:41] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:41] <Erb_> When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:41] <genius314> h3xis: unfortunately, I have an ATI card. I'd assume the drivers are installed.
[04:41] <Bradaphraser> my lovely splash screen is covering EVERYTHING
[04:41] <h3xis> genius314, not the proprietary ones
[04:42] <nix_ferret> Ok, well, you said you changed user to auto right?
[04:42] <reiki> un_operateur, the swap in fstab on THIS partition has a UUID. I am running on /dev/sdb I have 2 SATA drives and one IDE drive. All Ubuntu installations have their own drive
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> yes
[04:42] <genius314> h3xis: What is that?
[04:42] <aoirthoir> craig ima try that
[04:42] <h3xis> craigbass1976, you use sudo <command> in ubuntu
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> dang it
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> it just pops up with something quickly
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> then runs away
[04:42] <nix_ferret> So boot the liveCD and see if the formatter "sees' your drive
[04:42] <h3xis> genius314, i'm not sure how to get ati drivers working in ubuntu :/ im sure someone else here does
[04:42] <Bradaphraser> it'k
[04:42] <kitche> h3xis: that's to run as root powers not to open an app as another user
[04:43] <maddash> Owner: do you intend to use grub as your primary bootloader or ntldr?
[04:43] <craigbass1976> so, if Amanda has the x session open, I sudo craig thunderbird?
[04:43] <nix_ferret> try hitting esc or something to make the boot logo go away
[04:43] <Tomcat_> craigbass1976: Should work. :)
[04:43] <genius314> h3xis: Ok. Thanks anyway.
[04:43] <un_operateur> reiki, so if there is a UUID present, whats the problem, i'm confused now :)
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:43] <Tomcat_> craigbass1976: No, "su craig", then thunderbird should work.
[04:43] <Owner> maddash: prolly
[04:43] <nix_ferret> There is a BIOS option that will make that go away FYI,
[04:43] <jp> did you get that un_operateur? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39271/
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> heh
[04:43] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> that showed me an instant thing again
[04:43] <maddash> Owner: huh? which one?
[04:43] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:44] <Owner> grub
[04:44] <craigbass1976> Tomcat_, I get a cannot open display message.  This has been the rub...
[04:44] <nix_ferret> How big is your hard drive anyway?
[04:44] <racarr> !pastebin
[04:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <Bradaphraser> supposed to be 20 gig
[04:44] <Tomcat_> craigbass1976: Mh... yeah, there might be auth problems... no idea how to fix those though, sorry. Maybe someone else. :\
[04:44] <nix_ferret> k, cool
[04:44] <reiki> un_operateur, I am trying to get the UUIDs of ALL partitions. I have all but one. I have UUIDs for all partitions currently mounted and in use EXCEPT I can't get the UUID of /dev/sda5 which is the swap partition of a DAPPER install that's on my other sata drive. I am currently booted to Edgy
[04:45] <nix_ferret> lets boot live and see what we can...err...see
[04:45] <un_operateur> jp, ok, your sources.list seems incomplete -- take the sources.list from here and replace each instance of the word "edgy" with "warty" -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sources.list
[04:45] <genius314> Can anyone help me get a 1280x1024 resolution on an ATI card?
[04:45] <kitche> craigbass1976: that's because you can't open another gui app as another user while anotehr user is on that screen you would have to use another display
[04:45] <craigbass1976> Anyone?  How do I get around the "Cannot open display" message when trying to fire up a gui program when another user is the one with the X session open?
[04:45] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:45] <jp> Thanks. (;-)
[04:45] <kitche> craigbass1976: unless you mean from the same screen
[04:45] <craigbass1976> kitche, oh, ok
[04:46] <Bradaphraser> lemme see if live still tells me it's a tiny hard drive
[04:46] <un_operateur> reiki, if you are trying to retrieve the UUID of your swap partition using vol_id .. you won't be able to since the swap partition has no real metadata for it to read off
[04:46] <nix_ferret> If it still says 100mb, I'm going to come over and beat it with a hammer.
[04:46] <craigbass1976> kitche, how do I open another display, or do I have to do the switch user thing?  That's a little XP-ish and I was hoping to avoid that.  So much easier from a terminal...
[04:46] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[04:46] <Bradaphraser> it doesn't listen
[04:47] <nix_ferret> We have ways of making you work e-machine.
[04:47] <reiki> un_operateur, ok... THAT is the answer I think I was looking for. Thank you. Maybe when I BOOT to that Dapper install I will be able to see a UUID :)
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> no matter how much violence I use
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> it just stares at me with a blank look
[04:47] <un_operateur> reiki, maybe something like this helps homing in on the UUID of your swap partition -- for i in `ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/`; do echo $i, `readlink /dev/disk/by-uuid/$i`; done
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> "Huh?"
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> "I'm working!"
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> "I wanna pet the rabbits, George..."
[04:47] <kitche> craigbass1976: only way I know how to is do it from the same screen where your infront of the monitor
[04:47] <nix_ferret> At work we say the beatings will continue until production increases...
[04:47] <Bradaphraser> :)
[04:47] <genius314> Anyone want to help me configure my resolution with an ATI card?
[04:47] <un_operateur> reiki, as i said, no vol_id will be able to tell you the UUID, from any installation
[04:48] <hyphenated> craigbass1976: run 'xhost +local:' as the user who logged into X, then it should work fine after you su to someone else
[04:48] <eimajenthat> Will installing xinetd slow my system down much?
[04:48] <crimsun> please note that xhost is deprecated for security best practices. Use xauth instead.
[04:48] <reiki> un_operateur, ok... can't be that important then :)  thank you for your patience
[04:48] <SilentDis> Bradaphraser, does this axiom sound familiar? "If it doesn't fit, jam it.  If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway."
[04:48] <Erb_> When I play a local video in Firefox (via File > Open file), Firefox crashes.  I have launched Firefox from terminal to see what the error is when it crashes, it is:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:48] <craigbass1976> hyphenated, every time I boot the box?
[04:48] <ddwagnz> :/
[04:49] <un_operateur> reiki, the command i posted should help you with what you want :)
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> sounds like my method of tech support, yes ;)
[04:49] <un_operateur> reiki, yw :)
[04:49] <hyphenated> craigbass1976: try it first, and if that works, add it to an X startup script somewhere
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> it says, "Free space 171 MB"
[04:49] <kitche> Erb_: hmm it's probably due to your video player why not just open the player by itself?
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> unless I'm looking at the wrong thing
[04:49] <Bradaphraser> which is entirely possible
[04:50] <genius314> Can someone help me configure my resolution??
[04:50] <craigbass1976> hyphenated, No love here...       xhost +local:         was the exact command
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> this computer hates me
[04:50] <ddwagnz> hehe
[04:50] <SilentDis> genius314, I missed your question... could you repeat it please?
[04:50] <trumpetmic> anyone: can I share files with a Windows network and not require windows users to login in order to access the files?
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> it's the only honorable option
[04:50] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, can I have your stuff?
[04:50] <nix_ferret> What options does the formatter give you?
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> I'm thinking of being my computer's second
[04:50] <Erb_> kitche - I'm building an application, I need to open local videos in the browser
[04:50] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: Sure.
[04:50] <nix_ferret> Sorry, goes to the missus
[04:50] <Bradaphraser> heh
[04:50] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: Requires some configuring though.
[04:50] <craigbass1976> trumpetmic, I believe you can have a wide open samba share
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> now it just says, "Missing command to run"
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> I think I made it angry
[04:51] <trumpetmic> cool
[04:51] <nix_ferret> wt*?
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> lemme try my other CD
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> I've made five Today
[04:51] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, you need to make a murder/suicide pact with her first then. :D
[04:51] <trumpetmic> is there a good guide for learning how to do this?
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> of every kind of ubuntu
[04:51] <craigbass1976> trumpetmic, There's a recipe I think in the Linux Cookbook for such a thing.
[04:51] <Bradaphraser> (kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu...)
[04:51] <craigbass1976> Oreilly
[04:51] <CheyenneD> How do i use UDM (Gnome Login Backgrounds) in Edgy?
[04:51] <nix_ferret> SilenceGold, true. I think my lawyer put that in the pre-nup
[04:51] <genius314> SilentDis: I want a 1280x1024 resolution, (which my monitor and card support - I've done it in Windows), and I configured my Xorg.conf to be able to have that resolution, but all I can go up to is 1280x800.
[04:51] <CheyenneD> *GDM
[04:52] <nix_ferret> Boot the ubuntu live CD
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:52] <nix_ferret> Is it version 6.10?
[04:52] <trumpetmic> hm.. I'm surprised there isn't an easy peasy graphical utility for setting this up... sounds like a project
[04:52] <nix_ferret> "edgy"
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> yes
[04:52] <ablyss> CheyenneD: gksu gdmsetup
[04:52] <nix_ferret> good
[04:52] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: Basically you need to make a directory readable by anyone, and then do map to guest = Bad password... worked for me. I'm pretty sure there is a guide somewhere
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> edgy bastard
[04:52] <Bradaphraser> ;)
[04:52] <SilentDis> genius314, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  go through that command, choose 'advanced' at the end, and pick the 1280x1024 res.
[04:53] <genius314> SilentDis: Ok, I'll try that.
[04:53] <CheyenneD> ablyss: What?
[04:53] <Tomcat_> trumpetmic: You could submit a specification for that feature for features.launchpad.net :)
[04:53] <nix_ferret> Where do they come up with these names? It reminds me of hurricanes.
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[04:53] <ablyss> CheyenneD: gksu gdmsetup
[04:53] <SilentDis> genius314, at the end, nothing will happen, it'll just exit.  restart gdm (ctrl-alt-backspace) and you should be good.
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> hey, I've loved it for the last 9 months or so
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> it's been great
[04:53] <nix_ferret> ubuntu katrina will blow you away
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> it just decided to die Yesterday
[04:53] <Bradaphraser> :)
[04:53] <reiatzu> nix_ferret: ..
[04:53] <SilentDis> genius314, if X fails to start, use that command again, and set it to something lower.  we'll get you fixed yet :)
[04:54] <nix_ferret> Need that movie voice guy to say it though.
[04:54] <genius314> SilentDis: Ok
[04:54] <rigmah> i need some help on my first ubuntu install
[04:54] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, what exactly do you mean by "die"
[04:55] <SilentDis> rigmah, you're in the right spot, ask away :)
[04:55] <genius314> SilentDis: What do I choose for the first option?
[04:55] <ddwagnz> :/
[04:55] <Bradaphraser> it stopped working
[04:55] <eimajenthat> What does xinetd do?
[04:55] <nix_ferret> Um, the PC were kicking around now?
[04:55] <genius314> SilentDis: "X server driver"
[04:55] <Bradaphraser> it wouldn't load all of the sudden
[04:55] <SilentDis> genius314, it's been a while, what is it asking?
[04:55] <nix_ferret> Oh, u mean XP?
[04:55] <craigbass1976> rigmah, this is a windows 3.1 chat.   See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:56] <nix_ferret> Topic: Win 3.11 for workgroups - is the file manager good or bad
[04:56] <rigmah> i downloaded 6.10 and booted it up on a box i put together from parts laying around. I get to the GUI install screen and i select the first option. I believe its install or run live cd. I see two files load on the GUI then it goes black with a blinking curser
[04:56] <un_operateur> eimajenthat, it's a super-server -- links up smaller-services to ports without the need for them to be running all the time -- as opposed to apache which runs by itself all the time
[04:56] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, you get that beast to boot live yet?
[04:57] <SilentDis> genius314, you're running the built in OSS driver then... you MIGHT wanna consider dropping in the binary blobs first, before you go through this.  hit ctrl-c to exit out.
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> it's still "thinking" about it
[04:57] <rigmah> i burnt the ISO twice and i get the same problem with both. any ideas?
[04:57] <SilentDis> !ati | genius314
[04:57] <ubotu> genius314: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> I'm checking the options it gives me
[04:57] <Bradaphraser> on the intstall screen
[04:58] <eimajenthat> un_operateur:  Is it system intensive?  VMWare wants me to install it.
[04:58] <nix_ferret> You should put in your name and user/pass then a screen or 2 later it will start the "formatter" or whatever it calls it.
[04:58] <Bradaphraser> ok
[04:58] <rigmah> i downloaded 6.10 and booted it up on a box i put together from parts laying around. I get to the GUI install screen and i select the first option. I believe its install or run live cd. I see two files load on the GUI then it goes black with a blinking curser
[04:58] <Bradaphraser> k
[04:58] <NICKA> hello everyone
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> prepare disk space
[04:59] <rigmah> ?
[04:59] <nix_ferret> The install will seem to hang 4 a sec
[04:59] <genius314> SilentDis: I don't have a Radeon card.
[04:59] <willys_fueguino> I need some help... I cant run the gdmflexiserver
[04:59] <nix_ferret> yea
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> manually edit partiition table is the second option
[04:59] <nix_ferret> what's the 1st?
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> the first just says "Erase entire disk"
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> 30.0 GB
[04:59] <nix_ferret> and you tried that and no good?
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> IDE Master, etc etc
[04:59] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> it just mocked me
[05:00] <nix_ferret> click manually edit, but don't do anything in there
[05:00] <nix_ferret> haha
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> got about 75% through, then did a kill all
[05:00] <weem> nixxxx
[05:00] <weem> lol
[05:00] <Shocka311> How do I use terminal to edit a file that has spaces in it
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:00] <tannerld> how can I configure ubuntu's internet settings via the command line?
[05:00] <craigbass1976> rigmah, have you tried 6.06?
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> it has ext3 26 GB
[05:00] <craigbass1976> tannerld, like ip address?
[05:00] <SilentDis> genius314, what kind of card is it?
[05:00] <Bradaphraser> for hda1
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> hda2, extended 1.06 GB
[05:01] <nix_ferret> no swap?
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> and hda5 1.06 GB
[05:01] <SilentDis> Shocka311, nano /path/to/file\ name\ has\ spaces.txt
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> linux-swap
[05:01] <nix_ferret> yeah yeah
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> so
[05:01] <tannerld> craigbass1976: umm, like I clicked "do not config internet at install" and i need to download something to get the x windows working :\
[05:01] <nix_ferret> Ok, well. I'd try to install it like that.
[05:01] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:01] <genius314> SilentDis: 3D Rage Pro (or 3D Rage I/II. I have two installed, each with a different monitor. I also need to get both monitors working.)
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> we'll see what happens
[05:02] <nix_ferret> If it doesn't work you'll need to update your bios
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:02] <nix_ferret> well, no. I take that back
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> how would I do that?
[05:02] <eternal_p> hey all, quick question...how can I disable the Beryl Startup Spash screen, I cannot find the setting anywhere
[05:02] <Shocka311> silentdis: could you interpret that please?
[05:02] <curs0r> how do i mount an ipod?
[05:02] <maddash> what happens when you enter in, "sudo apt-get remove apt"?
[05:02] <vox754> !seen illu
[05:02] <ubotu> I haven't seen illu recently
[05:02] <nix_ferret> If ubuntu can "see" it, there shouldn't be a problem
[05:02] <SilentDis> genius314, i've not worked with the rage pro cards... not sure what the 'default' driver is on those.
[05:02] <craigbass1976> tannerld, Ahh, ok.  ifconfig  eth0 ip.add.ress netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  Then set /etc/resolv.conf to your dns server.
[05:02] <vox754> !seen illu45
[05:02] <ubotu> illu45 is on IRC right now!
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> k
[05:02] <Bradaphraser> yeah, it can see it
[05:02] <genius314> SilentDis: Ok.
[05:03] <Bradaphraser> and I ran a memory check earlier, and there were no errors
[05:03] <nix_ferret> who is illu45?
[05:03] <Gun_Smoke> I am experiencing some difficulties with the install via alternate installation CD.  Everything seems to be going fine up until I get to the base installation.  I get a bunch 20-50 red screen errors stating something about not being able to download the files, and another one the certain files are corrupt.
[05:03] <Bradaphraser> so maybe it's just a bios thing
[05:03] <eternal_p> anyone?
[05:03] <nix_ferret> That's good, but sort of not related.
[05:03] <weem> anyone here wardrive?
[05:03] <maddash> does aptitude still work after I do "sudo apt-get remove apt"?
[05:03] <SilentDis> Shocka311, the editor is called 'nano'.  so, you start with the command.  the file you want to edit is in /path/to/.  then, the actual file name has spaces, so you 'escape' the spaces with the backslash.
[05:03] <tannerld> craigbass1976: ok, i think (let me try)
[05:03] <Gun_Smoke> I am in the middle of yet another install attempt to reproduce the events for better information.
[05:04] <craigbass1976> tannerld, you may also have to add a gateway.  lemme see if I can find tha file this command writes to...
[05:04] <Shocka311> silentdis: i see, let me try that
[05:04] <Bradaphraser> k, so BIOS isn't a necessity then
[05:04] <SilentDis> Shocka311, so, say the file name is "My Crazy File.txt", and it's in /home/shocka.  the command would be "nano /home/shocka/My\ Crazy\ File.txt" without the quotes of course :)
[05:04] <Bradaphraser> er, BIOS update, I mean
[05:04] <nix_ferret> no. Where did you see it tell you your drive was only 200mb before?
[05:04] <curs0r> anyone? help me with an ipod?
[05:04] <Bradaphraser> I was looking at free space
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> on the file system
[05:05] <SilentDis> curs0r:  gonna poke ubotu on that one...
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> I was confusing myself
[05:05] <SilentDis> !ipod | curs0r
[05:05] <ubotu> curs0r: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[05:05] <nix_ferret> Oh, in the install?
[05:05] <maddash> anyone know?
[05:05] <nix_ferret> who is illu45?
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> desperately trying to make sense of it all
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> no, not on install
[05:05] <curs0r> thanks
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> after starting live
[05:05] <Gun_Smoke> From the alternate install CD.. What does Install in OEM mode mean?
[05:05] <tannerld> craigbass1976: how can I configure it for dhcp?
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> I looked at the file sytem
[05:05] <NICKA> i cannot get Vmware server installed on my dapper drake. it says detected previous version of vmware
[05:05] <Bradaphraser> desperately trying to figure out why it was killing itself
[05:05] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, Oh, no wonder. You have 256mb ram?
[05:06] <nix_ferret> or 512?
[05:06] <vox754> Shocka311: actually you can also enclose the file name with quotes, simple or double.
[05:06] <Bradaphraser> 256
[05:06] <willys_fueguino> Is there an alternative to gdmflexiserver??
[05:06] <Bradaphraser> which was why I was trying to go for xubuntu
[05:06] <Shocka311> that makes it a little easier
[05:06] <craigbass1976> tannerld, I foudn the file.  hehe...  I'll pm you and paste
[05:06] <SilentDis> vox754, good point, i tend to always use \ to escape single characters, it's just another way I guess :)
[05:06] <nix_ferret> the 200mb you were probably seeing was the 'virtual' hd that ubuntu creates to run within RAM
[05:06] <Bradaphraser> ah yes
[05:06] <nix_ferret> That's how the livecd works
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> that makes sense
[05:07] <rowdy> anybody setup ejabberd
[05:07] <nix_ferret> The install still moving?
[05:07] <rowdy> i installed it but its not starting
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> yeah
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> so far
[05:07] <alex-weej> !xgl
[05:07] <SilentDis> !anyone | rowdy
[05:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:07] <ubotu> rowdy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> you think it could be a problem with not enough RAM?
[05:07] <Bradaphraser> and, if so, how could I fix that, outside of buying more RAM?
[05:07] <vox754> SilentDis: now, how do you call a file like this "name:000:hsash:.5.cong"? there, you need the backlash
[05:08] <rowdy> ubotu: :)
[05:08] <nix_ferret> ubuntu should work in 256 RAM. Anyone care to confirm this?
[05:08] <SilentDis> vox754, lol
[05:08] <Shocka311> vox754: so I have a folder named "Type new name of folder" and I need to change ownership to user, how would I do that in terminal?
[05:08] <robtp> nix_ferret: i can confirm that it runs pretty acceptably even with 192
[05:08] <Bradaphraser> it was working great three days ago
[05:08] <robtp> Bradaphraser: whats your problem?
[05:08] <curs0r> i'm in big trouble
[05:08] <nix_ferret> ubuntu was loaded 3 days ago?
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> my compy keeps killing itself
[05:09] <curs0r> i plugged in the ipod before i installed gtkpod
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> in the middle of install
[05:09] <Spitzfire> hi i,m new to linux i need help loadin programs
[05:09] <robtp> Bradaphraser: at the same step, or after awhile?
[05:09] <__mikem> Bradaphraser, you should have your computer committed
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> I was reinstalling, because it suddenly wouldn't boot Yesterday morning
[05:09] <dthacker> rowdy, I have not used this package myself, but my first troubleshooting step is *always* to read the logs
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> I agree
[05:09] <rowdy> the server's not starting..when i run ejabberdctl register i get this http://pastebin.ca/295176
[05:09] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, I have ubuntu running on a 256 MiB machine.  it installed and ran just fine.  just recently swapped out a module and made it a 384 MiB machine, but yes, it works/installs fine.  a bit slow, but what do you expect?  lol
[05:09] <SilentDis> nix_ferret, just make SURE you give a healthy swap space to it, and you're fine.
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> after a wjo;e
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> woah
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> after a while, I mean
[05:09] <Bradaphraser> (stupid fingers were on the wrong keys)
[05:09] <robtp> Bradaphraser: but not the same part?
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> not always, no
[05:10] <robtp> Bradaphraser: i have that problem all the time i switch between dvorak and qwerty it gets pretty weird
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> though I have been using multiple
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> CDs
[05:10] <rowdy> dthacker: the other thing is that the logs are empty
[05:10] <nix_ferret> Did you install anything new? Printer? Scanner?
[05:10] <robtp> Bradaphraser: it kinda sounds like a hardware issue but its hard to say without seeing it
[05:10] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, what program are you trying to 'load'?  are you having problems running programs?  installing them?
[05:10] <curs0r> lsusb |grep Apple shows the device present but it is not mounted and i don't know how to either mount it for gtkpod or stop the device so i can unplug it
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> on the Xubuntu install, it's pretty consistently at the same point
[05:10] <vox754> Shocka311: just like you have it, "sudo chmod <---> 'File whate evr asdjnda' " obviously without the external quotes, and <---> are your permissions
[05:10] <Spitzfire> like a irc client
[05:10] <Bradaphraser> yeah, I was afraid of that
[05:11] <nix_ferret> err afraid of what?
[05:11] <Spitzfire> silent can i call you s to keep this short
[05:11] <robtp> curs0r: dapper, edgy or what?
[05:11] <curs0r> robtp, edgy
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> it being an hardware problem
[05:11] <curs0r> sorry
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> becuase that'll end up costing me money
[05:11] <SilentDis> !who | Spitzfire
[05:11] <ubotu> Spitzfire: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> and I'm freaking broke
[05:11] <robtp> Bradaphraser: try doing a memory scan, look for memtest86 or its on the cd
[05:11] <reiatzu> Bradaphraser: why?
[05:11] <Bradaphraser> (which is why I use ubuntu ;) )
[05:11] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, you're looking to install an IRC client, correct?
[05:11] <Spitzfire> yes s
[05:12] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, remove all your usb stuff too, like printers and such.
[05:12] <robtp> curs0r: does it show up in amarok, banshee, etc or on your desktop?
[05:12] <rowdy> any ideas
[05:12] <nix_ferret> Did you install anything new?
[05:12] <Bradaphraser> memory scan is an option on bootup, right?
[05:12] <Spitzfire> i,m fronm xp
[05:12] <robtp> Bradaphraser: try using a ps2 mouse and keyboard if you can
[05:12] <robtp> Bradaphraser: yeah
[05:12] <Spitzfire> s
[05:12] <Bradaphraser> I was trying to burn a CD
[05:12] <curs0r> robtp, nowhere...
[05:12] <Bradaphraser> I don't have anything hooked up to the USB, right now
[05:12] <curs0r> robtp, i don't have banshee or amarok
[05:12] <robtp> curs0r: whats in dmesg | tail when you plug it in
[05:12] <robtp> curs0r: does it show up in rhythmbox
[05:13] <ddaemon> nix_ferret, I'm still having my issue with hanging at fsck, got any ideas?
[05:13] <Spitzfire> ok i got the irc thing off a free site
[05:13] <Spitzfire> put it tmp
[05:13] <jumbers> What tends to be a good FTP server daemon? I'm running proftpd, but I don't know if there's something better out there
[05:13] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, put my name at the start of your comment, and it'll be easier for me to sift out, and I won't miss your comments :)  on the default Ubuntu 6.10 install, you HAVE an irc client in Gaim.  Just create an IRC account in it.  that'll get you by for now.  after that, there's xchat, and, if you're feeling adventurous, bitchx
[05:13] <curs0r> SCSI device sdd: 1982464 2048-byte hdwr sectors (4060 MB) <-- does that mean i mount sdd?
[05:13] <Bradaphraser> k, well thanks for all the help, guys,
[05:13] <Shocka311> vox754: so would this be what I would type? chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"
[05:13] <Bradaphraser> it's still installing ok
[05:13] <Spitzfire> now i guess i need to compile
[05:13] <Bradaphraser> hopefully it'll decide to work
[05:13] <vox754> Bradaphraser: Come on, you are eating the entire screen with your chatting. Take your time to write a nice long paragraph that everybody has time to read.
[05:14] <Spitzfire> ok
[05:14] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, you booted recover?
[05:14] <nix_ferret> recovery?
[05:14] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, there's a HUGE number of irc clients available in easy to use repositories in Ubuntu.  no need to compile one by hand yourself.
[05:14] <craigbass1976> Can anyone recommend a simple photo editing program?  Something like the one that comes with a new dell?
[05:14] <ddaemon> nix_ferret,
[05:14] <ddaemon> yes I did
[05:14] <Spitzfire> silentdis i never done that before
[05:14] <dthacker> rowdy: the app mailing list has several hits with similar errors.  I suggest you post there.
[05:15] <jumbers> craigbass1976: GIMP is fairly easy to use
[05:15] <alex-weej> craigbass1976: f-spot
[05:15] <robtp> curs0r: you could try it, nothing in rhythmbox?
[05:15] <ddaemon> no problems doing that
[05:15] <Bradaphraser> sorry, I'm used to smaller rooms.  I don't usually post in big ones like this.  I'll try to post a little-less spastically.
[05:15] <nix_ferret> craigbass1976, I've been using digikam - it's good
[05:15] <craigbass1976> I use GIMP, but it's like pounding a finish nail with a wrecking ball
[05:15] <nix_ferret> he said "Dell" not cray.
[05:15] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, for example, right now, I'm using XChat.  it's rather basic, and has few 'bells and whistles'.  I use BitchX as well, when I'm at a terminal.  both were installed without compiling from source, just used apt package system to get them and install them for me.
[05:15] <_|-> hello guys
[05:15] <rowdy> dthacker: how do do that
[05:15] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, what IRC client do you want to try?  Gaim, XChat, BitchX?
[05:16] <Spitzfire> silentdis this will be the first time i loaded anynew program on the thing
[05:16] <robtp> is there a better alternative to xchat-gnome? im not a big fan
[05:16] <Spitzfire> what ever looks good
[05:16] <curs0r> robtp, i see nothing to indicate an ipod in rb
[05:16] <Spitzfire> i one bouncer one
[05:16] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, I'd recommend XChat.  gives a bit more power than Gaim does, and is still fairly easy to use.
[05:16] <craigbass1976> robtp, regular xchat? or that's still no good?
[05:16] <craigbass1976> robtp, I didn't liek the gnome version either
[05:17] <nix_ferret> ddaemon, I would boot recovery again and see this:http://adminschoice.com/docs/fsck.htm
[05:17] <dthacker> rowdy: Use google to search for the home page of jabber.  Find the jabberd mailing list and follow the instructions to join.
[05:17] <Bakefy> Can someone help me create a password for my Samba Share.  I have been looking on ubuntu's tutorial and I still can't get it.
[05:17] <Spitzfire> dis i,m on vmware too
[05:17] <robtp> curs0r: try mounting it then
[05:17] <rowdy> dthacker: thanks will do
[05:17] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, you can use the Synaptic Package Manger (system > Administration > Synaptic) if you prefer to use a GUI, otherwise, the fast way is to open up a terminal window, and type "sudo apt-get install xchat" (without the quotes, of course)
[05:17] <robtp> craigbass1976: what do you use? standard xchat? which i dont like too much either...
[05:17] <nix_ferret> get fsck to run and see what it pukes on
[05:17] <Bradaphraser> It got to 65% percent, beeped, and then did a kill all
[05:17] <maddash> I'm running a 500 mhz x86 w/192 ram. how can I get my ubuntu server setup to boot faster? it takes about 00:1:30 right now
[05:18] <craigbass1976> robtp, yes, just regular xchat.  I'm just used to it I guess.
[05:18] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!111
[05:18] <Bradaphraser> I've been doing that all day for two days.  ;)
[05:18] <kitche> robtp: well the irc clietns that are morepowerful are cli
[05:18] <Spitzfire> where do you type the commands
[05:18] <robtp> craigbass1976: i like konversation when i use kde, but im bothered by mixing and im on gnome now
[05:18] <jbroome> maddash: don't cut it off
[05:18] <nix_ferret> I think it jumped the shark man.
[05:18] <maddash> jbroome: what?
[05:18] <curs0r> robtp, mount -t vfat /dev/sdd2 /media/ipod worked, thanks for your help
[05:19] <Spitzfire> teminal is how i unziped the tar
[05:19] <SilentDis> maddash, that is VERY quick for a machine with only 192mb ram and a 500mhz processor.
[05:19] <Spitzfire> but it in tmp
[05:19] <Spitzfire> folder
[05:19] <jbroome> maddash: i'm sorry, i was responding to your question
[05:19] <dthacker> maddash: you are at your hw limits.
[05:19] <robtp> curs0r: see if you can figure out why its not mounting automatically (which i tihnk it should, mine does)
[05:19] <maddash> SilentDis: xp boots in 30 s.
[05:19] <craigbass1976> robtp, I've only used one other in linux, and I can't remember what it's called.  It was on a DSL boot cd.  There's chatzilla, ever tried that?
[05:19] <jbroome> won't happen again
[05:19] <NICKA> can someone please help me with my vmware
[05:19] <Spitzfire> put it in the tmp
[05:19] <SilentDis> !who | Spitzfire
[05:19] <ubotu> Spitzfire: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:19] <maddash> dthacker: for linux, you mean?
[05:19] <Shocka311> would this be the correct comand to change ownership of a file named Type name of new folder?  ""sudo chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"
[05:19] <robtp> craigbass1976: havent, ill give it a try though
[05:19] <Bradaphraser> So, should I just take this to Geeksquad, or buy a motherboard, or get a credit card and buy another giant paperweight?
[05:19] <nix_ferret> craigbass1976, seriously though, digikam is good for organizing and editing photos. Make sure you install the scripts for it too.
[05:19] <Spitzfire> mind if i pm silentdis
[05:20] <nix_ferret> ???GIMP is poo for that.
[05:20] <robtp> craigbass1976: oh right the xul one haha
[05:20] <curs0r> robtp, now i just have to figure out how to safely unplug it
[05:20] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, I'm TRYING hard to keep up here... so I apologize if I missed something.  you can install xchat by opening a terminal (applications > accessories > terminal).  then type this in:  sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:20] <craigbass1976> nix_ferret, I'm installing f-spot, then I'll do digikam and see which one the wife likes better.
[05:20] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, Geeksquad?!!!    Faster hardware will boot faster.
[05:20] <SilentDis> Spitzfire, it's general policy here to keep stuff in channel, so others can learn :)
[05:20] <kitche> Bradaphraser: well if you have Linux on your computer GeekSquad won't know how to work with it really
[05:20] <Bradaphraser> ok, then I'll mark that off the list ;)
[05:20] <robtp> curs0r: umount it
[05:21] <maddash> dthacker: did you not see my previous msg? xp boots in under a minute, and windows nt boots in < 45 s
[05:21] <NICKA> im in geek squad
[05:21] <craigbass1976> I'm still blown away by how much software there is in the repos.  Way more than fedora...
[05:21] <robtp> craigbass1976: what did you think about chatzilla? which im installing now
[05:21] <LameBMX> yay .. i got spdif workin easier than i thought
[05:21] <NICKA> im learning linux myself
[05:21] <maddash> there's gotta be some stuff I can cut out
[05:21] <curs0r> robtp, i can just unplug it then?
[05:21] <NICKA> my co workers no nothing about it
[05:21] <craigbass1976> I liked it, and used it in Windows (you have to pay for windows xchat)  Since I liked it though, and like xchat, you may not like it.
[05:21] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, build yourself a real damned computer.
[05:22] <LameBMX> NICKA,
[05:22] <SilentDis> maddash, there's a LOT more going on 'under the hood' as it were, in linux.  the file system, for one, is a lot different than either of those OSs you listed, so it's gonna take time to pull it up properly, with all it's journalizing and such
[05:22] <craigbass1976> robtp, I find them similar
[05:22] <willys_fueguino> Is there an alternative to gdmflexiserver??
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> craigbass1976: unofficail xchat builds are free
[05:22] <curs0r> robtp, because it's flashing do not unplug on the screen
[05:22] <nix_ferret> Bradaphraser, wait till after pay day and go on to newegg.com
[05:22] <robtp> curs0r: youre not "supposed to" but you can if you want to really, i usually avoid it
[05:22] <craigbass1976> tonyyarusso, I never thought of that...
[05:22] <robtp> curs0r: yeah, that doesnt mean too much unless youre transferring something... its not good to do but its probabyl going to be harmless
[05:22] <LameBMX> NICKA, thats luv ... im a nix noob but i always wanted to call out geek squad and make them remove a virus .. with a hidden cam ... :) and no software allowed to touch my pc
[05:22] <curs0r> robtp, how do i avoid it?
[05:22] <dthacker> maddash: Silent Dis is right.
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> craigbass1976: silverex is good
[05:22] <Bradaphraser> well, I've never built a computer before
[05:23] <Bradaphraser> but I'll look into that
[05:23] <Winter> awright, so i have a 680i motherboard with onboard sound. I have been using that for some time, but recently purchased a new m-audio revolution sound card and stuck it in. However, i can't seem to figure out how to make it play anything... i can see it through lspci and select the hardware in, ie, xmms, but it refuses to actually do anything and kicks out errors depending on what i select
[05:23] <robtp> curs0r: did you umount /dev/sdd2 (or what it was?)
[05:23] <curs0r> robtp, send a command to ehci to stop it or something?
[05:23] <cellofellow> can you tell me why I get an Error 1 when I boot the multiuser kernels in this menu.lst?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/
[05:23] <craigbass1976> LameBMX, that would be a youtube vid I'd watch.    Did you just edit that file, or do something else?
[05:25] <SilentDis> robtp, let me dig around, I just saw an article on it in an Ubuntu-related blog...
[05:25] <LameBMX> craigbass1976, it owns vista .. i was runnin eval version till i up and decided to give ubuntu a test drive
[05:25] <robtp> SilentDis: youre talking to the wrong person :)
[05:25] <tannerld> craigbass1976: I tried, not sure if its right.
[05:25] <abhinay> nix_ferret, does clamav work for desktop also ?
[05:25] <robtp> abhinay: read what SilentDis was saying to me
[05:25] <robtp> abhinay: clamav is usually meant for servers but it works fine on a desktop as well
[05:25] <craigbass1976> tannerld, I'm wondering if there is more to it than just adding a line ot that file.
[05:26] <SilentDis> robtp, i'm so sorry, damn sylisdexia
[05:26] <cellofellow> can you tell me why I get an Error 1 when I boot the multiuser kernels in this menu.lst?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39277/
[05:26] <SilentDis> abhinay, check this link out:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/UbuntuTutorials/~3/67039393/
[05:26] <craigbass1976> ANYONE know how to get a network card installed of the UBUNTU install was done without configuring it?
[05:26] <robtp> robtp: youre not going to see much in the way of linux virii, but it can be nice to use clamav to prevent yourself from infecting friends as a transmitting intermediary if you get what i mean
[05:26] <curs0r> robtp, turns out that's a known issue with newer nanos... huh
[05:26] <tannerld> craigbass1976: probably, we tried the install cd again to configure the internet that way, no detction :\
[05:26] <LameBMX> cellofellow, can you describe ur problem ..
[05:26] <nix_ferret> abhinay, it should be in the package installer, I could have sworn I saw it
[05:27] <robtp> curs0r: the lack of recognizance or the d/c problem? or both?
[05:27] <craigbass1976> tannerld, that blows.  What's the motherboard and card?
[05:27] <curs0r> the failure to automount
[05:27] <robtp> curs0r: was it showing in gtkpod after you mounted it?
[05:27] <LameBMX> cellofellow, line 71 groot=(hd0,0) ... so the grub home dir is on the same partition as windows?
[05:27] <abhinay> SilentDis, thank you :)
[05:27] <curs0r> gtkpod works fine but it doesn't create the mountpoint it wants on install
[05:27] <Shocka311> I can't get this file changed to my ownership. Can someone help?
[05:28] <cellofellow> LameBMX: no windows
[05:28] <Bradaphraser> well, thanks again
[05:28] <tannerld> craigbass1976: not sure of the motherboard, but the card is a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit (quick google search finds that I'm not the only one with troubles with this on any distrib.)
[05:28] <cellofellow> LameBMX: just Ubuntu
[05:28] <Bradaphraser> be excellent to each other, and party on dudes
[05:28] <curs0r> robtp, gtkpod wanted to see it in /media/ipod and didn't have a way to change that in the gui
[05:28] <LameBMX> cellofellow, ahhh k doh nvm ...
[05:28] <vox754> Shocka311: sorry, it's windy in here, loss of connection
[05:28] <RoC_MM_0w2> Anybody know if the unix2dos or dos2unix packages are in ubuntu?  I have both multiverse and universe and I don't see them.
[05:28] <SilentDis> Bradaphraser, thanks, now a certain Kiss song is stuck in my head because of you :P
[05:28] <Shocka311> vox754: no worries
[05:29] <LameBMX> cellofellow, i just edit the automagic sectiond .. do grub-update .. and double check after that .. so no updates make my comp not boot lol
[05:29] <alienseer23> I am having major sound issues, lots of error messages, and no sound at all, I get an error when trying to test sound in gnome, I get an error when trying to open alsamixer, media is not playing to default sound card, but I can isolate chanells with xmms and play to them, just not to the card as a whole. can anyone help me get my sound back??
[05:29] <Hawkline> Twinxor where is Twinxor
[05:29] <netboix> If I am currently using xp and am planning on dual booting... where do i install grub at the end of my ubuntu install... the default location seemed to give me an eror
[05:29] <Shocka311> vox754: so would this work? chown user /home/user/"Type name of new folder"
[05:29] <Asc> How might I start X without a window manager?  Like, just with the b/w hatched background.
[05:29] <LameBMX> and i think i should just goto bed now ... cuz lookin back im not makin any sense to meself either
[05:29] <cellofellow> LameBMX: I don't understand
[05:29] <craigbass1976> tannerld, sorry man.  That's weird, because there was a bunch of new broadcom chipset support added to 2.6.17 kernel.
[05:29] <RoC_MM_0w2> Anybody know if the unix2dos or dos2unix packages are in ubuntu?  I have both multiverse and universe and I don't see them.
[05:30] <robtp> curs0r: you can mount /dev/blah blah blah /media/ipod to please it
[05:30] <Asc> I mean, without something like, e.g. gnome, kde, or ion
[05:30] <Shocka311> vox754: did you get that?
[05:30] <wastrel> ubuuuuuuntu
[05:30] <nix_ferret> Night, good luck ppl
[05:30] <curs0r> robtp, did dat ;)
[05:30] <tannerld> craigbass1976: does edgy use a different kernal than the last version (i'm using the last versions's install cd)?
[05:30] <LameBMX> cellofellow, .. what kind of errors are you getting
[05:30] <SilentDis> RoC_MM_0w2, what do those packages do?  maybe something similar is.  I've never herd of them.
[05:30] <wastrel> 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:30] <curs0r> robtp, can one just add mp3 files to an ipod and do away with amarok/banshee/gtkpod?
[05:30] <wastrel> ^^ edgy
[05:30] <craigbass1976> tannerld, uname -a will tell you what kernel you have.
[05:30] <vox754> Shocka311: no, problems... with... internet... not... gonna... make.. it...
[05:31] <Shocka311> vox754: lol
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> SilentDis: they convert files from DOS format to UNIX format.
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> oh
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> I think I found it
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> it might be in sysutils
[05:31] <cellofellow> LameBMX: Error 1. But only when try to boot the non-recovery-mode kernels.
[05:31] <RoC_MM_0w2> I'll be back if it's not
[05:31] <NICKA> i cant get vmware server to install it keeps saying i have a previous version but i dont :(
[05:31] <craigbass1976> tannerld, I'm in dapper (2.15....)
[05:31] <SilentDis> RoC_MM_0w2, such as...
[05:31] <SilentDis> RoC_MM_0w2, like a text file or the like?  or am I missing something...
[05:32] <tannerld> craigbass1976: I'll download the edgy install cd just in case (and give me something to do...)
[05:32] <netboix> If I am currently using xp and am planning on dual booting... where do i install grub at the end of my ubuntu install... the default location seemed to give me an eror
[05:33] <Bakefy> Can anyone here help me with samba?  the ubuntu site is confusing me.
[05:33] <LameBMX> cellofellow, comment out the hiddenmenu option ... then hit e and remove quiet and splash .. hit enter and see where it errors from there
[05:33] <LameBMX> dont know if u tried that
[05:33] <curs0r> Bakefy, what's up?
[05:33] <cellofellow> k
[05:33] <LameBMX> cellofellow, also try puttin timeout to like 30 seconds and waiting
[05:34] <dthacker> netboix: what is the error?
[05:34] <SilentDis> netboix, the default location would be hd0.  usually, you have windows on the first partition, and ubuntu on the second, right?
[05:34] <Bakefy> curs0r: Thanks,  I am trying to create a username and password for all of my smb shares
[05:34] <Bakefy> windows will not connect if I don't have a username and password
[05:34] <netboix> SilentDis: yes that is correct... but it seems that i have no hd0
[05:34] <netboix> dthacker: leme look real quick
[05:34] <LameBMX> i get all kinds of weird crap if i make it through that menu too fast ... i just let it select the os itself and it boots okay .. but i got it for 30secs on mine ... worth a shot
[05:34] <curs0r> Bakefy, would you rather not have a password?
[05:35] <SilentDis> netboix, what dthacker said:  "what is the error?" :)
[05:35] <Bakefy> yeah
[05:35] <curs0r> Bakefy, i thought that might be the case
[05:35] <LameBMX> right he lefttededed
[05:35] <Bakefy> curs0r: I can connect with other non windows devices with no trouble
[05:35] <vox754> I also have a minor problem with GRUB. I can't use "grub> find /boot/grub/stage1"; It gives me "Error:15"; I can boot, it's just that it gives me that message.
[05:36] <Bakefy> curs0r: I have been told that windows NEEDS a username and password, or it wont ever attempt
[05:36] <curs0r> Bakefy, did you edit /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[05:36] <curs0r> Bakefy, not true, i got it to work
[05:36] <Bakefy> curs0r: I  have only changed the work group
[05:36] <netboix> SilentDis: so even if my first hd is hda it still should be installed on hd0?
[05:36] <Bakefy> curs0r: I  have XP by the way...
[05:37] <curs0r> Bakefy, ok you need to edit a setting in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:37] <melon_> guys.. when i do: sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg <-- i get a "could not open file etcetc - open (2 No such file or directory) <-- did i break something?
[05:37] <SilentDis> netboix, grub lists HDs differently.  HD0, HD1 and so on.  it's looking at the MBR (master boot record) not the partition spaces
[05:37] <oktay> hi. anybody know if dhcpd can call a script when the connection is lost and regained?
[05:37] <curs0r> Bakefy, there is a section in that file called authentication
[05:37] <netboix> SilentDis: ok leme run it on the default again and see what the error is
[05:38] <SilentDis> melon_, could you pastebin the whole error?
[05:38] <SilentDis> !pastebin | melon_
[05:38] <ubotu> melon_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <oktay> would /etc/network/if-up.d be involved here or does it only get run the first time the network is up?
[05:38] <curs0r> under that line if you see a line that says security = user i want you to place a # in front of that line
[05:38] <curs0r> Bakefy, under that line if you see a line that says security = user i want you to place a # in front of that line
[05:38] <netboix> SilentDis: the only reason i ask is taht the installer is listing my ide1 master as hda and grub wnats to install on hd0
[05:38] <melon_> http://paste2.org/p/704
[05:39] <netboix> should i let it go there"?
[05:39] <curs0r> Bakefy, if you don't see that line or if it already has a # that's ok
[05:39] <SilentDis> netboix, that's proper, yes
[05:39] <curs0r> Bakefy, then once you take care of that add security = share and save the file
[05:39] <Bakefy> curs0r thats already been done.
[05:39] <Bakefy> curs0r okay I will try that
[05:40] <SilentDis> netboix, HD0 is the first hard drive found, usually, specified by the bios.  usually it means IDE port 0, master drive.
[05:40] <RoC_MM_0w> the package name is tofrodos
[05:40] <Bakefy> curs0r:  ";   security = user"
[05:40] <Bakefy> is currently what I see, is ; a blocked charactor
[05:40] <curs0r> Bakefy, put a # in front of it
[05:41] <netboix> SilentDis: ok lets see if ig et the error
[05:41] <Kira> Does somebody know of a mail client that can send new mail messages to stdout non-interactively?
[05:41] <SilentDis> netboix, ok :)
[05:41] <Gun_Smoke> The ./pool/main/u/ubuntu=artwork/ubuntu=_28_all.deb file failed the MD% checksum verification.  Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted.  What does that mean?
[05:41] <Bakefy> okay i just saved it
[05:41] <curs0r> then on its own line security = share with no #
[05:41] <Bakefy> time to check
[05:41] <curs0r> wait
[05:41] <Bakefy> it worked
[05:41] <Bakefy> i fucking love you
[05:42] <curs0r> oh, ok
[05:42] <curs0r> lol
[05:42] <Bakefy> thanks man!
[05:42] <curs0r> put in a good word for me with god
[05:42] <Bakefy> if I make it there first I will
[05:42] <curs0r> lol
[05:43] <curs0r> yeah that info is priceless ain't it?
[05:43] <Bakefy> thanks again, im going to enjoy and map some new drives!
[05:44] <alienseer23> could someone put my name in here so I can see if I get sound, please?
[05:44] <kitche>  alienseer23 ?
[05:44] <alienseer23> yippie!!!
[05:44] <alienseer23> thankl you
[05:44] <curs0r> alienseer23,
[05:45] <curs0r> alienseer23,
[05:45] <alienseer23> I have been wrestling with my sound for 2 days
[05:45] <curs0r> hehehe i couldn't help it
[05:45] <alienseer23> it's music to my ears
[05:45] <alienseer23> to just have clear sound
[05:45] <curs0r> everybody sam his sound server! lol
[05:45] <alienseer23> and Zappa
[05:45] <curs0r> spam*
[05:45] <alienseer23> no!
[05:46] <curs0r> ;)
[05:46] <gumpppy3> has anybody had problems accessing yahoo mail using mozilla firefox?
[05:47] <jbroome> gumpppy3: nope, and i'm using a bunch of scriptblocker/adblocker extensions too
[05:47] <alienseer23> Q: does anyone know a simple way to enable 5.1 sound by default?
[05:48] <NICKA> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:48] <NICKA> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[05:48] <gumpppy3> thanks jbroome for the reply
[05:48] <NICKA> thats not the directory does anyone know off hand
[05:48] <jasz> hello all
[05:48] <NICKA> for vmserver
[05:48] <kitche> NICKA: /usr/include/linux
[05:48] <kitche> NICKA: but you also have ot install them also
[05:48] <jasz> anyone here knows how to remove DRM from some files I bought through the Itunes Store?
[05:48] <Olathe> Is it a bad idea to remove the /etc/hosts line with <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:48] <NICKA> oh
[05:48] <jasz> or how can I play them using Rhythmbox?
[05:49] <NICKA> how do i install them
[05:49] <h3xis> Olathe, yes
[05:49] <NICKA> its for vmware server
[05:50] <SilentDis> jasz, recent versions of iTunes pull in via version 6, and I don't think there's a crack out there for that yet...
[05:50] <Olathe> h3xis: What is <IP_ADDRESS> used for ?
[05:50] <h3xis> that's localhost
[05:50] <Olathe> Not <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <NICKA> man im stuck i cant install vmware
[05:50] <Olathe> But <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <h3xis> Olathe, ahhh
[05:50] <jasz> :(
[05:50] <h3xis> Olathe, is that all that's there?
[05:51] <Olathe> The line is <IP_ADDRESS> myboxsname
[05:51] <artbird309> NICKA: you install in from apt-get install
[05:51] <h3xis> i think that's the loopback device
[05:51] <NICKA> oh
[05:51] <NICKA> you know that cmd?
[05:51] <NICKA> im kind of a noob
[05:51] <h3xis> Olathe, i think it's safe to keep, but i'm not sure if it's a good idea to remove
[05:52] <NICKA> im on the forum thread for this vmware and i donno
[05:52] <artbird309> NICKA: let me boot my computer up
[05:52] <kitche> !vmware|NICKA
[05:52] <ubotu> NICKA: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:52] <NICKA> ok
[05:52] <kitche> NICKA: you probably want VMware server
[05:53] <NICKA> yea
[05:53] <NICKA> thats what im installing
[05:53] <NICKA> vmware server
[05:53] <kitche> NICKA: you using that link?
[05:53] <NICKA> yea
[05:53] <NICKA> im reading it
[05:53] <__david> hello, does edgy eft support live growing of ext3 filesystems?
[05:53] <NICKA> will you be around?
[05:53] <Olathe> Apparently, it's for when you use DHCP: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2005/06/msg01047.html
[05:54] <artbird309> NICKA: who
[05:55] <klypso> hey, anyone know how to set up a dual boot with GRUB?
[05:55] <NICKA> you guys
[05:55] <klypso> I keep getting the same error.
[05:55] <NICKA> artbird or kitche
[05:55] <NICKA> youg uys are great help with the link
[05:55] <kitche> I m around I went to the instructions to install
[05:55] <NICKA> im reading  a bit ill brb
[05:56] <digip1mp> does anyone know why ubuntuforums uses vbulletin instead of phpbb?...  isn't that kind of anti-foss? (just occurred to me that this is kind of funny)
[05:56] <klypso> Booting 'Microsoft Windows XP home edition'
[05:56] <klypso> root (hd0,0)
[05:56] <klypso> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[05:56] <klypso> savedefault
[05:56] <klypso> makeactive
[05:56] <klypso> Error 29: Disk write error
[05:57] <kitche> digip1mp: phpbb can easily be hacked
[05:57] <klypso> oops, didn't mean to spam
[05:57] <__david> yes? > flaviorbeiro
[05:57] <ddaemon> what is the reason for using this construct in a shell script? if [ x$VAR != x] ; then...
[05:57] <levander> What user group do I have to be in to use the applications on the System -> Administration menu?
[05:58] <digip1mp> kitche: really?
[05:58] <klypso> anyone know how to fix that?
[05:58] <wastrel> levander:  admin
[05:58] <NICKA> when i did what it said for the kenral version type
[05:59] <NICKA> it said folder doesnt exist
[06:00] <willys_fueguino> How can i switch users on xubuntu edgy?
[06:01] <NICKA> man you guys stil here.. seems like im screwed
[06:01] <NICKA> :(
[06:02] <artbird309> NICKA: what happened
[06:02] <NICKA> it said
[06:02] <NICKA> the directory doesnt exist
[06:02] <klypso> anyone know how to set up a dual boot with linux
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot | klypso
[06:03] <ubotu> klypso: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:03] <klypso> !dualboot ?
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualboot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <klypso> thanks
[06:03] <artbird309> NICKA: did you install the linux-heaaders
[06:03] <NICKA> i dont know how
[06:03] <cerridwen> -a ;)
[06:03] <NICKA> so im assuming no lol
[06:04] <artbird309> NICKA: you need to install that first
[06:04] <willys_fueguino> How can i switch users on xubuntu edgy?
[06:04] <NICKA> ok
[06:04] <NICKA> hold on i found something
[06:04] <cerridwen> change between existing users?
[06:04] <NICKA> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-***
[06:04] <artbird309> NICKA: yes
[06:04] <NICKA> sweet
[06:05] <NICKA> what are the headers anyway?
[06:05] <levander> I created the admin group and added myself to it.  When I run the groups command, admin does show up in the output.  However, when I run user-admin from the Administration window, I still get: "You are not allowed access to the system configuration."
[06:05] <klypso> I get this error with grup:
[06:05] <klypso> 'Booting 'Microsoft Windows XP home edition'
[06:05] <klypso> root (hd0,0)
[06:05] <klypso> Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[06:05] <klypso> savedefault
[06:05] <klypso> makeactive
[06:05] <klypso> Error 29: Disk write error
[06:05] <levander> Any ideas what else to try?
[06:05] <wastrel> levander:  it is strange that an admin group didn't already exist on your system, since it is part of the default configuration
[06:06] <NICKA> ok all installed
[06:06] <NICKA> let me try now
[06:06] <levander> wastrel: I installed way back in the warty days.  That may have something to do with it.  But, do you know which package creates the admin group?
[06:06] <willys_fueguino> so no one can help me??
[06:06] <LameBMX> klypso, did ya pastbin your menu.lst file?
[06:06] <wastrel> levander:  it you should examine your /etc/sudoers file, look for:   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:06] <levander> wastrel: I am upgraded to edgy now.
[06:07] <crimsun> willys_fueguino: did you provide any additional info after the reboot?
[06:07] <wastrel> levander:  if not visudo and add it
[06:07] <klypso> LameBMX: sorry, that is what?
[06:07] <netboix> does anyone here use madwifi?
[06:07] <levander> wastrel: it says "levander ALL=(ALL) ALL" - is that close enough?  levander is my user name
[06:07] <LameBMX> klypso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ... nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:07] <SilentDis> willys_fueguino, i've not used xubuntu yet, and I'm not familiar with xcfe.  let me look around the web a little.
[06:08] <Mathew> Is there a way to change the look of alt+tab application switching?
[06:08] <alienseer23> could someone take a look at this and tell me if there is anything I can do to fix my 5.1?.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39279/
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> crimsun: I've got the same messages...
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> gdmflexiserver just wont run...
[06:08] <willys_fueguino> I'm going crazy with this....
[06:08] <crimsun> alienseer23: use -Dplug:surround51, not -Dsurround51
[06:08] <wastrel> levander:  seemingly it is not enough :]   i don't know specifically if gksudo or whatever the system->administration menu uses  needs that admin business, but it's not working now... so why not try adding it :]
[06:09] <alienseer23> crimsun: ok
[06:09] <defiant> May I ask, has anyone ever heard of Freespire?
[06:09] <klypso> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39280/
[06:09] <noiesmo> defiant, yes its linspire's free version
[06:09] <defiant> noiesmo have you ever used it or heard anything about it. it looks nice.
[06:10] <levander> wastrel: tried editing it with visudo, ran users-admin, same thing
[06:10] <jp> un_operateur -- Thanks for your help .... my /etc/apt/sources.list works great now .... just like it should (|;-) a tip 'o the hat to ye!
[06:10] <arrenlex> How do people make commercial versions of Linux? Doesn't the fact that the kernel is GPL prevent them from releasing anything that uses the Linux kernel under anything other than the GPL?
[06:10] <klypso> LameBMX: know what to fix?
[06:10] <SilentDis> willys_fueguino, from what I can tell, just log out/back in to switch users.
[06:10] <alienseer23> crimsun: pretty much more of the same ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39281/
[06:10] <arrenlex> defiant: It's KDE. It looks just like kubuntu.
[06:10] <noiesmo> defiant, installed once was pretty bt you can mod kde or gnome to look good anywy and was a pain to add certain things like video and mp3 suport from memory
[06:11] <wastrel> levander:  log out & back in again?
[06:11] <defiant> noiesmo, Thanks.
[06:11] <levander> wastrel: brb
[06:11] <crimsun> alienseer23: what did you do to alsa-lib and your asoundrcs?
[06:11] <alienseer23> crimsun: I have no idea
[06:11] <LameBMX> klypso,
[06:12] <LameBMX> klypso, ill repost it with a proposed change
[06:12] <klypso> ok
[06:12] <levander> wastrel: same damn thing
[06:12] <crimsun> alienseer23: that's fairly unhelpful. What did you do? What steps did you take?
[06:13] <willys_fueguino> SilentDis: Doesn't works... if I do that the programs keep running, but I cant see them
[06:13] <NICKA> damn after all this i get some error
[06:13] <alienseer23> mostly just tried to edit .asoundrc, but reverted it back
[06:13] <NICKA> what the crap
[06:13] <crimsun> alienseer23: so pastebin your asoundrc(s)
[06:13] <alienseer23> there is only one
[06:13] <artbird309> NICKA: put it in here  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:14] <wastrel> levander:  i dunno - i'm a big dummy :]    how about running  users-admin  from the cli?
[06:14] <NICKA> ok
[06:14] <willys_fueguino> crimsun: I'm reading about a FUSA app (fast user switch applet), but I think it relies on gdmflexiserver
[06:14] <LameBMX> klypso, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39282/
[06:14] <NICKA> ill run through and get the error again real quick
[06:14] <LameBMX> klypso, rootnoverify ..
[06:14] <artbird309> NICKA: ok
[06:14] <alienseer23> crimsun: there is nothing there right now
[06:15] <klypso> LameBMX: i'll replace it, then reboot and see what happens.
[06:15] <klypso> LameBMX: thanks.
[06:15] <LameBMX> klypso, dont forget to backup the original
[06:15] <LameBMX> never replace ..
[06:16] <NICKA> oh crap
[06:16] <klypso> LameBMX: right, right
[06:16] <NICKA> it worked i need a serial
[06:16] <eegore> It still wants to hog the mic input but I can live with that
[06:16] <NICKA> ill registure real quick
[06:16] <eegore> well, I got teamspeak to work through the linux32 command chained to the aoss command and it is stable
[06:16] <alienseer23> crimsun: here is asoundrc.asoundconf~ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39283/
[06:16] <LameBMX> took me enough screwups to figure that one out
[06:17] <crimsun> alienseer23: ~/.asoundrc* , please.
[06:18] <alienseer23> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39284/
[06:18] <alienseer23> I tried to do this, earlier : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[06:18] <Simplechat> within ubuntu, i've heard that it doesn't have a root account
[06:18] <Zelus> guys, i have a noob question. I just installed 6.10 on my inspiron 8200 but i can get the wireless to work, i see the signal strenth (77%) but hte status is disconnected. :(
[06:18] <Simplechat> yet you seem to have to enter your password to do system admin tasks
[06:18] <Simplechat> so, is your account a virtual root?
[06:19] <levander> wastrel: thanks for your help, i'm reading a bug report on launchpad, I think it was adding the admin group, and then having to restart dbus with the init.d script
[06:19] <willys_fueguino> crimsun: the fast-user-switch-applet is on the repos.. but if I apt-get it it tries to install the gnome-desktop
[06:19] <willys_fueguino> :-
[06:20] <wastrel> Simplechat:  the root account exists but doesn't have a password enabled.  the sudo system exists to allow you to perform system administration tasks.
[06:20] <netboix> I am attempting to follow these instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1818971&postcount=6  but was wondering i only have the 6.10 installation cd and when i attempt to apt-get it tells me could not find the package and deos not ask for the cd.
[06:20] <alienseer23> crimsun: I also gave this a try http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
[06:22] <alienseer23> crimsun: this is the last thing I tried http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39285/
[06:23] <fierce> Hey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found
[06:23] <fierce> How can I do this?
[06:24] <fierce> Hey all.. i've got a problem I cant solve.  I am running a process but want to log out and keep it running, but I forgot to screen it.  How can I transfer this to a screen?  I tried to 'CTRL+Z' to suspend it, then run screen, then 'fg' inside of screen but it says no process found.. How can I do this :(
[06:24] <alienseer23> crimsun: there was also an instruction about removing and replacing alsa if your sound was dead, whic it was, so i tried it, and it did not work...i even tried to compile alsa, which failed...so I removed the lot and reinstalled alsa, gdm and ubuntu desktop
[06:24] <fierce> errr
[06:24] <fierce> oops sorry for repeat
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> fierce: Im trying to do something similar...
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> but cant do it
[06:25] <fierce> willys_fueguino: darn
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> :-(
[06:25] <crimsun> alienseer23: I'll help you when I have a moment.
[06:25] <fierce> its driving me nuts
[06:25] <willys_fueguino> fierce: me to...
[06:25] <alienseer23> ok
[06:25] <wheels3572> What Program is it that I would use to load Windows inside of Linux?
[06:25] <wheels3572> that way I dont have to reboot my computer
[06:25] <fierce> wheels3572: wine?
[06:26] <wheels3572> ok
[06:26] <artbird309> wheels3572: vmware
[06:26] <fierce> ya
[06:26] <fierce> or vmware
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> fierce: I want to do something like the "switch users" that windows have
[06:26] <fierce> or isnt there another one.. cedega?
[06:26] <wheels3572> ok so it is vmware
[06:26] <fierce> willys_fueguino: nice
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> wheels3572: qemu
[06:26] <willys_fueguino> perhaps
[06:26] <wheels3572> !vmware
[06:26] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[06:27] <wastrel> you can switch users by going to quit > switch user
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> wastrel: nop
[06:27] <wastrel> i dunno about 'doze
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> wastrel: Im on xubuntu
[06:27] <willys_fueguino> and I dont have that option
[06:28] <NICKA> i think i got it
[06:28] <NICKA> im setting up windows xp
[06:28] <wastrel> i dunno about xubuntu perhaps the gurus in #xubuntu can assist
[06:28] <artbird309> NICKA: good
[06:28] <willys_fueguino> wastrel: already  tried there...
[06:29] <willys_fueguino> the gdmflexiserver can do that... but doesnt runs over here
[06:29] <willys_fueguino> then what about gdm loading 2 X sessions??
[06:30] <wastrel> we have a situation then
[06:30] <kadk> hey, is there any way to turn my debian box into a "network storage"; like everbody in the house(laptop, another pcs,etc) can store files on it just like a regular drive. is it possible for samba to do that?
[06:30] <machu> newbie: I recently changed permissions on /etc like this: sudo chown userid:userid  -R /etc    and now i'm getting this: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0.  How do I reverse what I've done to perform sudo commands?
[06:31] <artbird309> kadk: you could install freenas
[06:32] <kevin> is this the right place for monitor questions?
[06:32] <Asc> no, but it is a good place for GNU/monitor questions
[06:32] <jumbers>  What tends to be a good FTP server daemon? I'm running proftpd, but I don't know if there's something better out there
[06:33] <Lathiat> jumbers: pro isnt bad
[06:33] <Lathiat> jumbers: theres vsftpd, thats ok too
[06:33] <Lathiat> jumbers: requires a bit more config tho
[06:33] <artbird309> kadk: http://www.freenas.org/
[06:33] <jumbers> Lathiat: Thanks. :)
[06:34] <Zelus> guys, i have a noob question. I just installed 6.10 on my inspiron 8200 but i can get the wireless to work, i see the signal strenth (77%) but the status is disconnected. :( and i cant figure out how to switch it to connected.
[06:34] <jumbers> Does anybody know why Apache2, PHP, and MySQL aren't up to date in the Ubuntu repos?
[06:34] <levander> Does anyone know what this avahi daemon is?  When I restart dbus, I get some message that starting the avahi daemon failed.
[06:34] <Lathiat> Zelus: system->administration->networking ?
[06:34] <wasabi_> jumbers: if you mean in Edgy, it's because once it's released, new versions aren't released.
[06:34] <Lathiat> levander: yes avahi is used for service discovery
[06:35] <Dasnipa`> jumbers, the repos are updated every 6 months. the only updates that are done in the meantime are security related patches
[06:35] <levander> Lathiat: is it supposed to be running on my system?
[06:35] <levander> Lathiat: is it supposed to be running by default?
[06:35] <jumbers> I thought only kernels were snapshotted
[06:35] <wastrel> libavahi-core4 - Avahi's embeddable mDNS/DNS-SD library
[06:35] <wasabi_> jumbers: The entire distro is. Edgy is a point in time release.
[06:36] <levander> wasabi_: is the avahi daemon running on your system?
[06:36] <wasabi_> levander: Yes.
[06:36] <wastrel> seems to be a service discovery daemon
[06:36] <wasabi_> Avahi is hte zeroconf daemon.
[06:36] <wasabi_> So yes, serviced iscovery.
[06:36] <Zelus> Lathiat: in there its checked as enabled but i still have no connectivity. in the toolbar util it says disconnected
[06:36] <wastrel> i don't see avahi on my system.
[06:36] <jumbers> wasabi_: So in order to keep the latest versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL, I have to either find repos for each or compile them manually?
[06:36] <wastrel> yes
[06:36] <wasabi_> jumbers: Or not care about them as much.
[06:37] <Lathiat> levander: its installed, but not enabled by default
[06:37] <jumbers> wasabi_: Well, there tend to be security updates in them
[06:37] <Vuen_> hey guys, at what time of day is the stuff in /etc/cron.daily ran? and how can i configure this?
[06:37] <wasabi_> Ubuntu backports security related fixes.
[06:37] <levander> Well, hell.  When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon start", I get no output.  When I run "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop" it says it failed...
[06:37] <wasabi_> But only those fixes, not any new features.
[06:37] <wasabi_> Just small fixes.
[06:37] <wasabi_> You'll find those in edgy-security
[06:38] <Lathiat> levander: ah yeh
[06:38] <willys_fueguino> How can I load 2 X sessions with gdm?
[06:38] <Lathiat> levander: you can ignore that
[06:38] <Lathiat> it doesnt cause any issues
[06:38] <wasabi_> It fails to stop, because it's not started.
[06:38] <Lathiat> levander: basically by default it doesnt start, and it cant stop if it wasnt started (hence it 'fails' to stop)
[06:38] <Lathiat> but you can ignore that it doesnt cause any issues
[06:38] <levander> Lathiat: so, by default, it's not supposed to run?
[06:38] <Asc> willys_furguino: You've tried gdmflexisserver?
[06:38] <wasabi_> levander: Not yet anyways.
[06:38] <wastrel> so the boot message is some boot script chattering about avahi but not actually running it presumably.
[06:39] <Dasnipa`> jumbers, the reason it is done like that is because it is way too hard to keep up to date with every package possible. look at distros that have tried that... they have failed horribly (namely debian)
[06:39] <wasabi_> If you read /etc/default/avahi-daemon, you'll see, it's disabled by default.
[06:39] <levander> wasabi_: okay, cool.  Dunno why it's on my system then...
[06:39] <levander> wasabi_: thanks
[06:39] <wasabi_> levander: Another piece of software probably brought it in.
[06:39] <Vuen_> nevermind, found it
[06:39] <levander> wasabi_: It would be cool if I could find out which one.
[06:40] <Lathiat> levander: its installed by default
[06:40] <wasabi_> Try removing it, see what wants to go. :)
[06:40] <Lathiat> levander: on edgy
[06:40] <wasabi_> Is avahi installed by default on edgy? Didn't know that.
[06:40] <wasabi_> Just not enabled?
[06:40] <Lathiat> its just disabled by default
[06:40] <Lathiat> correct
[06:40] <wasabi_> k
[06:40] <levander> Lathiat: so, why did they decide to install it?
[06:40] <Lathiat> system->administration->networking || "general" tab there is a tickbox to enable it
[06:40] <Lathiat> levander: so it can be easily enabled
[06:40] <Lathiat> in feisty it will be enabled by default
[06:40] <levander> Lathiat: "sudo aptitude avahi-daemon" isn't easy enough?
[06:41] <Lathiat> no :)
[06:41] <levander> I guess it isn't, I forgot to put install in that command.
[06:41] <soloik> hi
[06:41] <Lathiat> haha
[06:41] <levander> Lathiat: I read about avahi, it sounds cool, but does anyone use it besides Ubuntu?
[06:41] <Lathiat> levander: lots of people
[06:41] <Lathiat> FC6, RHEL5
[06:41] <Lathiat> i think it may even be in a debian etch desktop install
[06:42] <crimsun> it's always humorous to ask an upstream developer if his software is even used.
[06:42] <levander> Lathiat: okay, so it's becoming more popular...
[06:42] <crimsun> =)
[06:42] <Lathiat> (FWIW, I'm one of the authors of the project :)
[06:42] <Lathiat> levander: yeh, first version was released ~18 months ago now
[06:42] <Lathiat> its gaining in popularity :)