[23:02] <Arrow_> Oh no....bad
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> I'm not sure what the story is there.
[23:02] <Arrow_> I waited two months for a big free part
[23:02] <Arrow_> bug
[23:02] <topyli> nemo: it's all nice and good for gnu to make their own java if they want. i don't have a problem with gnu but openoffice and java, both sun supported projects :(
[23:03] <cvd-pr> qemu has usb etc...?
[23:04] <topyli> ohhhh openoffice doesn't depend on openoffice.org-java-common so it's not installed by default
[23:04] <Arrow_> googling.... Phenom Kubuntu TLB bug
[23:06] <Arrow_> I guess I have to compile a kernel then..or find someone who has modded Kubuntu already
[23:07] <Arrow_> if the TLB patch is 'in' the standard release...that makes all the new Phenons not work
[23:07] <eternal_p> cvd-pr: use virtualbox or vmware server
[23:07] <eternal_p> better options
[23:07] <jojo4u> well I'm back after upgrading. And I can tell you, hardy still sucks
[23:07] <cvd-pr> eternal_p, ok
[23:08]  * Arrow_ hasn't compiled a kernel since '93 gee....forget how
[23:08] <Jordan_U> jojo4u, In what way?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> Arrow_: ouch... any launchpad bug on that?
[23:09] <ikonia> Arrow_: be aware make dep is gone now :)
[23:09] <DanaG> New BIOSes should fix TLB bug.
[23:09] <DanaG> ... unless your computer's OEM sucks.
[23:09] <jojo4u> jordan: where to start ... update-manager fails with my sources.list, update-manager logs me off during upgrade so upgrade is stopped and I have to run dpkg --configure -a after a a system reset, network-manager does not reming WLAN key, fonts are ugly
[23:09] <Jaymac> i have a usb drive, and accidentally specified an invalid mount directory on Properties > Volume > Mount point and now it refuses to mount.. how can i fix it?
[23:10] <jojo4u> ... ntfs volumes don't show up in thunar
[23:10] <DanaG> Jaymac: open gconf-editor and go to system->storage
[23:10] <Arrow_> That's quite the problem ..I have 'fixed' silicon and don't need a patch...:/
[23:10] <DanaG> and dig around a bit.
[23:10] <Jaymac> DanaG: just remembered
[23:10] <Jaymac> DanaG: thanks a lot ahaha
[23:22] <TheOriginalRippe> can somebody tell me how i install a virus scanner?
[23:23] <upboardin> dont really need one
[23:23] <david_> where's the firewall in rc - is it already installed?
[23:24] <_Rambaldi_> TheOriginalRippe, do you have one in mind you want to install
[23:24] <TheOriginalRippe> how about if i download a file and i want to check if its malicious or not?
[23:24] <_Rambaldi_> install clamtk TheOriginalRippe
[23:24] <TheOriginalRippe> not sure which ones are available
[23:24] <david_> i thought a simple firewall was part of the advertising for 8.04
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> !ufw | david_
[23:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ufw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:26] <_Rambaldi_> TheOriginalRippe, did you install?
[23:26] <lilkreen> my Laptop (Everex VA2001T) LCD monitor blinks in both stable and hardy. It doesn't have any technical info that I can find on horizontal refresh rates and such. Is there a way to get the blinking to stop?
[23:27] <david_> from website> The Ubuntu 8.04 release candidate includes ufw (Uncomplicated Firewall),
[23:27] <cwillu> lilkreen, blinks in suspend?
[23:27] <lilkreen> no I mean it blinks like an old TV
[23:27] <Jaymac> lilkreen: you mean like a screen flicker every so often?
[23:27] <TheOriginalRippe> installing =)
[23:27] <lilkreen> no it's continuous like the refresh rate was off
[23:28] <TheOriginalRippe> very slow download:S
[23:28] <lilkreen> I tried that DMFI info tool I saw mentioned but it didn't get anything from the monitor for me to look up
[23:28] <TheOriginalRippe> lol 3 mins for 12mb?
[23:29] <lilkreen> I can use it just fine but the continuous shimmer is hard on my eyes
[23:29] <seanh> Anyone else had sound disappear in some apps (e.g. firefox) after recent updates?
[23:29] <TheOriginalRippe> i did this morning but its fine now
[23:30] <cvd-pr> Any one know how to calculate the speed  in AMD processors?  2800+ = 1.8 GHZ How i do that
[23:30] <_Rambaldi_> your internet is slow TheOriginalRippe
[23:30] <lilkreen> well the mute function button on my laptop doesn't work anymore, have to right click and mute/unmute from the tray
[23:30] <seanh> Hmm, still gone for me, and there's no more updates yet
[23:30] <Miineti> hi :)
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> cvd-pr: subtract 1000, divide by 1000
[23:30] <VSpike> cvd-pr: look it up on wikipedia?  I don't think it's calculateable
[23:31] <TheOriginalRippe> im running intel centrino dual core duo i dont know about amd im an intel fan myself
[23:31] <Miineti> someone knows how to get an fritz wlan stick to work on hardy?
[23:31] <chrisas> Miineti, whats the hardware in the stick ?
[23:31] <julie> can I get help on hardy
[23:31] <VSpike> cvd-pr: you know that "cat /proc/cpu" will give you the clock speed?
[23:32] <cvd-pr> VSpike, i want to know, so i can do it automatically
[23:32] <julie> I have a bug I think..
[23:32] <chrisas> Miineti, you dont need it, but its easier, what does it say as product name ?
[23:32] <virtuald> is there any advantage to install firefox extensions through apt on a single user desktop?
[23:32] <Miineti> one mom...
[23:32] <julie> I have changed the language to persian then back again to english but its stayed on persian
[23:32] <VSpike> cvd-pr: lookup table?
[23:33] <julie> any help
[23:33] <scizzo-> julie: maybe ask what the problem is before we can help?
[23:33] <sielnt_> If I have 2 machines rsyncing to the same directory on my server, will rsync check which file was edited most recently or if I had an older version on computer 1 and a newer version on computer 2 and I rsynced computer 2 then computer 1 would the newer file still remain?
[23:33] <Miineti> its name is just fritz wlan usb stick (avm gmbh)
[23:33] <cvd-pr> so a 3000+ = ?
[23:33] <TheOriginalRippe> running great thanks
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> cvd-pr: 2ghz
[23:34] <chrisas> Miineti, you get the installed hardware by executing "lshw" in a terminal
[23:34] <julie> the problem is I changed my system lang to persian then tried to change it back to english but now its stuck on persian
[23:34] <Miineti> thx
[23:34]  * Miineti tries
[23:34] <chrisas> Miineti, look for "usb"
[23:35] <chrisas> Miineti, sorry i think i was wrong i cant find my usb devices like this
[23:35] <VSpike> cvd-pr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_64_microprocessors
[23:35] <scizzo-> julie: did you logout and in again to be sure?
[23:35] <julie> scizzo-: yes
[23:35] <akk> what's the right cmdline (non-gui) way to upgrade from gutsy to hardy? I'm having trouble finding a straight answer with google.
[23:35] <JediMaster> Hey all, I'm just trying to install the RC and straight after selecting install from the cd menu, I'm getting a kernel panic. I installed an earlier beta (but amd64 instead of i386) and had no problems
[23:36] <VSpike> cvd-pr: 3000+ = 2000MHz, but 3200+ = 2000MHz also
[23:36] <scizzo-> julie: type: locale in a terminal and then put it in pastebin
[23:36] <Laibsch> Hi, I upgraded a dapper installation to hardy and now "reboot" does nothing.I get an error "shutdown: Unable to send message: Connection refused"
[23:36] <Laibsch> This is as root
[23:36] <chrisas> Miineti, lsusb is better i think
[23:36] <scizzo-> julie: also be sure that english is actually choosen as default
[23:36] <Miineti> k
[23:36] <akk> I have a program called do-release-upgrade which I think I used for feisty-gutsy, but it has no man page
[23:36] <VSpike> cvd-pr: also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_XP_microprocessors
[23:36] <JediMaster> getting: ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC        then "Kernel panic - not syncing IO-APIC + timer doesn't work"
[23:36] <Miineti> that just gives me information i dont understand :)
[23:37] <ubuntuROX> Hey guys, If I have been running the beta and doing all the updates, is there anything else I can do besides a full re-install to get the RC, or will the package manager do the update for me?
[23:37] <chrisas> JediMaster,  you could try #linux , i you find no one here
[23:37] <nosrednaekim> ubuntuROX: its all done in the updates
[23:37] <julie> http://pastebin.com/m7ee2eaf4
[23:37] <soc> crimsun: hi ...
[23:37] <soc> i'm here again ...
[23:38] <JediMaster> chrisas: thanks, I did just change a few minor settings in the BIOS, but nothing that mentioned IO-APIC
[23:38] <soc> rebooted, aplay works
[23:38] <soc> vlc not
[23:38] <scizzo-> julie: all locales looks ok
[23:38] <ubuntuROX> I did not notice any major updates in the last few days
[23:38] <chrisas> JediMaster,  i had to tweak the bios too , to get 8gb working
[23:38] <soc> killing and starting pulseaudio:
[23:38] <Miineti> ubunturox, as far as i know, the update manager should do it
[23:38] <soc> pulseaudio
[23:38] <soc> ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:0
[23:38] <soc> ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:0
[23:38] <scizzo-> julie: is applications in another language?
[23:38] <ubuntuROX> Awesome :)
[23:39] <sielnt_> how do I append newlines or other separating characters to piped output
[23:39] <julie> yes
[23:39] <cvd-pr> if i change the hostname rightknow am not gonna have any problem?
 >> file.txt + output
[23:39] <sielnt_> ?
[23:39] <scizzo-> julie: even if you start them from a terminal?
[23:39] <Miineti> chrisas: shall i copy, what lsusb gives me?
[23:40] <soc> mhh
[23:40] <soc> can someone help me?
[23:40] <julie> scizzo-: the kmenu is in persian.. also can you run it by me to make sure that I have changed the lang correctly
[23:40] <soc> i have sound problems
[23:40] <chrisas> if its only one line , yes (the line which shows your fritz stick)
[23:40] <soc> seems to be something with pulseaudio ...
[23:40] <scizzo-> julie: ouch....I don't know much about KDE
[23:41] <spiderfire> which is your favorite dwm style wm?
[23:41] <scizzo-> julie: I belive there is a kubuntu channel that might help you.....
[23:41] <julie> well thats a f up
[23:42] <lilkreen> anyone know how to fix a laptop's shimmering LCD monitor?
[23:42] <julie> scizzo-: thats what  I believed too
[23:42] <spiderfire> lilkreen: shimmering?
[23:42] <lilkreen> It's blinking everything imperceptibly in any resolution
[23:43] <lilkreen> the monitor doesn't have any technical info I know of
[23:43] <spiderfire> lilkreen: do you mean its split up also?
[23:43] <chrisas> Miineti, paste only one line please
[23:43] <chrisas> or you need to use the "pastebin" website
[23:43] <scizzo-> julie: well like I said I am not 100% sure....however it can be that the menu and stuff in KDE is reading from another system...for example the stuff that is included with KDE...however I am not sure
[23:43] <spiderfire> lilkreen: what laptop?
[23:43] <lilkreen> no it looks fine it's just blinking everything like an old flourecent tube
[23:43] <Miineti> chrisas: in the first line tsays: Bus 005 Device 008: ID [0x] AVM GmbH WLAN USB v1.1 well, thats pretty much of no help for my connection, aint it? :D
[23:43] <lilkreen> everex VA2001T
[23:44] <scizzo-> julie: the terminal itself should read from locale...and so you can set different in terminal and X I belive...
[23:44] <alphakamp> Hello need to submit bug report, but figured i would come here first, my latitude 110l doesnt turn the screen back on after opening the lid
[23:44] <cwillu> lilkreen, it could actually be the backlight (which is often a fluorescent tube)
[23:44] <Hydrogen> wow... it didn't take firefox long to copy that feature from opera!
[23:44] <cwillu> which?
[23:44] <lilkreen> well it works fine in the vista that came with it
[23:44] <sparr_c> two serious problems with my hardy upgrade.  one was expected, i have to mess with the nvidia driver again.  the other unexpected and i am lost...  i cant connect to the network via my atheros wifi card.  knetworkmanager and nm-applet dont even see wireless.  wlassistant sees the AP and tries to connect, no dice.  ifconfig and iwconfig seem to work properly.  dhclient gives me a lot of "SIOCSIF*: Permission denied" errors and
[23:45] <Miineti> as far as my nooby self understands it, the drivers (which are on the stick) are pretty windows dependent
[23:45] <julie> scizzo-: sorry did you ask me to do somehting
[23:45] <chrisas> Miineti, do you get an ID ? like : Bus 005 Device 008: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. , you can google for this ID
[23:45] <Miineti> yep, i do
[23:45] <spiderfire> lilkreen: dont know about that really
[23:45] <Hydrogen> the site titles of pages in the dropdown
[23:45] <scizzo-> julie: no just informing you how to proceed with error testing
[23:46]  * Miineti googles
[23:46] <teamcobra> does anyone know what is going on with the b43 drivers in the newer (port .24-12) kernels? modprobing them doesnt produce _any_ dmesg output, makes it kind of hard to diagnose
[23:46] <TheOriginalRippe> hmm didnt think i would be back so soon , anybody else having problems with firefox not loading home page and instead showing about:blank? even though its set to eg google.com?
[23:46] <teamcobra> port/post
[23:46] <cwillu> Hydrogen, not following?
[23:46] <lilkreen> I wonder if the openchrome drivers would fix it, pity they die horribly on this laptop, heh.
[23:46] <chrisas> Miineti, first you have to know what exotic hardware this is, then you can look for the driver, if it would be common it would work out of the box, seems you got bad luck with this one
[23:46] <Hydrogen> cwillu: when typing a url into the location bar it now shows the title of the site in addition to the url
[23:47] <Hydrogen> opera had added that a while back, and apparently firefox did like it always does and took it posthaste!
[23:47] <alphakamp> Anyone having trouble with laptops lids
[23:47] <chrisas> Miineti, Fritz Hardware Sticks have all sorts of hardware in them, just what was the cheapest @ that time
[23:47] <cwillu> that's a good 8 months old, just hasn't been in the released version
[23:47] <jimmygoon> Anyone else's thunderbird icon look awful in avant-window-navigator?
[23:47] <cwillu> hydroboy, not that there's anything wrong with using good ideas, no?
[23:47] <_Rambaldi_> video appears to be blocky when horizontal panning in fullscreen, why is this and how can i get rid of this. my card is nvidia
[23:47] <TheOriginalRippe> i changed the look of all my icons lol so no idea on that
[23:47] <Hydrogen> cwillu: When all your ideas have come from others....
[23:48] <Miineti> chrisas: thanks
[23:48] <chrisas> Miineti,  :-( bad start it seems
[23:48] <Miineti> and how do i manage that? :D
[23:48] <Miineti> i knew, that'd happen, this avm stuff is just overpriced crap :S
[23:48] <lilkreen> alphakamp: the only trouble I have on this one is if it suspends with the lid open it doesn't respond to the touchpad, heh.
[23:48] <cwillu> Hydrogen, nevermind I asked, welcome to my ignore file
[23:49] <Miineti> everythin else works so perfectly, i nearly cant believe it :)
[23:49] <chrisas> Miineti,  read carefully on the stick (especially small fonts) and google for it
[23:49] <chrisas> Miineti,  i must be something exotic
[23:49] <Miineti> even the graca
[23:49] <Miineti> nope, nothin small written on it
[23:49] <Miineti> only name, name of company and MAC
[23:50] <alphakamp> lilkreen: I will have to submit a bug report i guees
[23:50] <teamcobra> why not do a lsusb
[23:50] <teamcobra> to find the exact hardware id
[23:50] <cwillu> teamcobra, what brokenness are you seeing?  They work fine on my box after I installed b43-fwcutter, and removed the hackery I had done in gutsy to make it work
[23:50] <poseidon> I have been trying to set up my wireless adapter to work in kubuntu with the guide given to me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236  I did all the steps, and got this http://pastebin.com/m58bbc68f
[23:51] <chrisas> Miineti,  do you know german ? : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/FRITZ!WLAN_USB_Stick , but the looking @ the description it sucks
[23:51] <poseidon> It says that I should have a connection after that, but I don't.
[23:51] <Miineti> chrisas, yea, i do
[23:51] <teamcobra> cwillu: I have a bcm4311 rev02. b43 works fine, no probs in 2.6.24-12. If I use any later kernel than that, the b43 module doesn;t actually do anything
[23:51] <Miineti> and next time ask me first :P
[23:52] <Miineti> ;)
[23:52] <cwillu> poseidon, that doesn't sound like a hardy guide
[23:52] <teamcobra> modprobing it returns no output, the light stays orange, and dmesg returns _nothing_ related to b43
[23:52] <Miineti> but they dont write bout hardy
[23:52] <teamcobra> which means the module is there, but when loaded.... well, it doesn;t _really_ do anything
[23:52] <chrisas> Miineti, do you run 8.04 ? try to start "jockey-gtk" if you have the usb stick in
[23:53] <poseidon> cwillu, how do I get it to work in 8.04 then?
[23:53] <ampex> Miineti: trying to make a usb wifi device work?
[23:53] <sparr> ignore sparr_c's problem
[23:53] <lilkreen> if the device has a FCC ID listed on it you might be able to get some info from here: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
[23:53] <Miineti> where the heck is the - on the english keyboard?
[23:53] <chrisas> Miineti, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/restricted-manager
[23:53] <sparr> dist-upgrade was non-obviously interrupted
[23:53] <Miineti> ampex: yep
[23:53] <sparr> for future reference...  DO NOT REBOOT mid-dist-upgrade
[23:53] <jbroome> duh
[23:53] <ampex> oh, right, bad idea
[23:53] <icanhas> sparr
[23:54] <icanhas> I did it once, was fun
[23:54] <jbroome> staring at the sun is also a bad idea
[23:54] <cwillu> poseidon, first, burn a live cd and check that it doesn't just work out of the box now (I've only played with one rt71, but it Just Worked in hardy)
[23:54] <ampex> it's almost as bad as powering down when you're doing a firmware upgrade
[23:54] <alphakamp> sparr: i had to on both off my upgrades
[23:54] <sparr> this is the third time ive done it, i think
[23:54] <sparr> ever
[23:54] <sparr> but this time i didnt know!
[23:54] <cwillu> teamcobra, but it still works if you boot into the older kernel?
[23:54] <sparr> i thought it was done
[23:54] <chrisas> Miineti, you have to run it with -c or -u (to update the list)
[23:54] <teamcobra> cwillu: I;ve never ever had a problem troubleshooting a driver in linux until now.... and only because _there is no dmesg output (!? whose idea was this?)
[23:54] <teamcobra> cwillu: precisely
[23:54] <sparr> i lost HAL!
[23:54] <sparr> that was the scariest part
[23:54] <chrisas> sparr,  :-)
[23:54] <poseidon> cwillu, It didn't work on the livecd when I tried
[23:55] <akk> losing HAL is a good thing :)
[23:55]  * Miineti doesnt find -
[23:55] <sparr> no HAL means no /disk/by-UUID means no automount means no /home!
[23:55] <lilkreen> heh, hal doesn't even interface the brightness with anything on my laptop, they haven't fixed it yet after breaking it patches ago
[23:55] <Danish989> 3 days left till ubuntu 8.04! woohoo!
[23:56] <sparr> so now im waiting for some fraction of 2350 packages to [re]configure  :)
[23:56] <teamcobra> cwillu, I also made sure the backport modules weren;t installed
[23:56] <chrisas> sparr,  that did not work for me because some of the packages fail on reconfigure , but if you upgrade they same "continuing because distribution  upgrade is in progress"
[23:56] <peter77> I were watching a flash video stream in fullscreen and ubuntu froze and all of a sudden the fans went mental, this has happend before
[23:57] <ampex> peter77: your cpu/gpu is overheating?
[23:57] <akk> peter77: Sometimes top can tell you which process went crazy
[23:57] <akk> (if you have enough control left to get a terminal and type top, that is)
[23:58] <sparr> when i built this PC, i went for low weight.  aluminum case, cheap fans, small heat sinks.
[23:58] <sparr> next time, im going for quiet
[23:58] <sparr> insulated walls, huge heat sinks, large heavy expensive quiet fans
[23:58] <chrisas> i go for aqua next time
[23:58] <joshjosh> i updated and now my sound is compeltely distorted
[23:58] <joshjosh> any ideas?
[23:59] <sparr> ok, fun apt-vs-gui question
[23:59] <chrisas> joshjosh, not really :-(
[23:59] <sparr> i do all my package management from the command line, and have debconf turned really paranoid
[23:59] <sparr> but, for normal users...


[00:06] <eaccenti> what's the main difference between bugsquads and ubuntu testing team?
[00:24] <micahg> eaccenti: testing tests, bugsquad is to help triage bugs
[01:32] <arand> I've just reported Bug #588076 and sent it upstream, would anyone mind to mark it as triaged (and whatever priority is policy for ftbfs, if you like), since it's pretty much clear I think.
[01:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588076 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[FTBFS] rhythmbox tries to define "pause", which is already used by unistd.h (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588076
[01:35] <micahg> arand: which version FTBFSs?
[01:36] <micahg> s/FTBFSs/FTBFS/
[01:39] <arand> micahg: current in maverick 0.12.8-0ubuntu4
[01:39] <micahg> arand: so you did a local rebuild?
[01:39] <arand> micahg: apt-get source and pbuilder.
[01:40] <micahg> arand: k, I would suggest adding information about which compilers were used to the upstream bug as that can affect how/when they decide to fix issues
[01:41] <arand> micahg: ok
[01:42] <micahg> arand: also attaching a patch that works helps as wel
[01:42] <micahg> *well
[01:42] <arand> micahg: Is actually renaming the variable in the RB-source a sane thing to do in this case?
[01:43] <micahg> arand: idk, not familiar with the package, maybe make the patch, pastebin, and ask in #ubuntu-devel
[01:44] <arand> micahg: Ok
[01:45] <micahg> arand: I'll mark High -> Triaged since it's in main
[01:45] <arand> micahg: cheers
[01:47] <micahg> arand: seb will probably drop the priority in the morning, but we'll see :)
[05:43] <ddecator> bdmurray: jcastro: ogasawara: just got an email saying my -control membership is about to expire. could one of you please extend it? my lp id is ddecator. thanks :)
[06:03] <ogasawara> ddecator: I've extended it for another year.  Thanks.
[07:20] <ddecator> thanks ogasawara, i appreciate it
[08:51] <BUGabundo_remote> oh look,marshmallows \w/
[09:14] <procherk> hi all
[09:14] <procherk> Russian speakers are?
[09:14] <procherk> please help me with ubuntu server: sudo apt-get install * don't work
[09:15] <vish> !ru | procherk
[09:15] <procherk> E: Could not find package *
[09:15] <ubot2> procherk: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:15] <procherk> thanks
[09:15] <procherk> go to ubuntu-ru ))
[09:15] <procherk> be happy
[09:16] <vish> procherk: here we discuss about bug triaging , for help the #ubuntu-ru or #ubuntu can be used
[09:16] <vish> those are the support channels
[09:16] <procherk> ok
[09:43] <stenten> Can someone explain to me why I can't edit the Tag line anymore in Bug #585734?
[09:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 585734 in linux (Ubuntu) "[865g] X locks up solid with HD thrashing (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585734
[09:44] <vish> stenten: click the yellow "pencil" icon , it allows you to edit the tags
[09:44] <vish> seems to be working for me
[09:45] <stenten> vish: I don't get the yellow pencil icon anymore :(
[09:45] <vish> stenten: hmm , are you logged in?
[09:45] <stenten> I'm gonna try restarting my browser....
[09:46] <stenten> vish: Yes I'm logged in and no restarting my browser doesn't fix it.
[09:47] <vish> stenten: weird , you can log a bug in "malone" saying that it does not allow you to edit , with a screenshot of the browser
[13:34] <xteejx> Hey guys. Does anyone have Bug Control type access for the "Ubuntu Website Product" project? Ref bug 585940. IMO this needs changing asap, so either High or Critical should be set
[13:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 585940 in ubuntu-website "Text reads "not recommended" for 64-bit (affects: 27) (heat: 136)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/585940
[13:40] <bencrisford> afternoon everybody
[13:41] <xteejx> hey ben :)
[13:43] <BUGabundo_remote> hey bencrisford
[13:45] <xteejx> BUGabundo_remote: He fell asleep lol
[13:45] <vish> xteejx: website is the upstream task , and only the concerned devs/team has that access ..
[13:45] <vish> xteejx: cjohnston is among them ;)
[13:46] <xteejx> vish: Oh right ok, was hoping one of the guys here could nudge this as it does seem a really easy bug to fix, but the wording is a bit ermm.... silly?
[13:47] <xteejx> afk
[15:06] <joumetal> Is bug #461424 about webkit or perhaps X?
[15:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 461424 in epiphany-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "mouse "trapped" no clicks even outside of window possible (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/461424
[15:59] <edakiri> With what program can I click on a window or X Windows element to identify it?
[16:01] <greg-g> edakiri: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage#Any
[16:03] <edakiri> thanks, that is what i sought
[16:13] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: what else has to be done with the switch off of bugsquad-mentorship for mentors?
[16:14] <pedro_> bcurtiswx, switch off for mentors? we didn't switch off anything
[16:15] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: the mentors aren't admins anymore on bugsquad-mentorship, where'd that move to?
[16:15] <pedro_> bcurtiswx, if you say it for the membership status change from admin to regular users is because we set up a Mentors admin team to deal with the tasks of assigning students to the mentors and keep track of those
[16:16] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: thanks for reading my mind ;)
[16:16] <nigelb> pedro_: oh yeah, I had volunteered to help admister the mentorship program.  What should I be doing?
[16:16] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: should we all be back on the mentors admin team by now?
[16:16] <pedro_> bcurtiswx, that way the mentors don't need to worry about anything more than doing their work helping the new students, the admin team take care of the rest
[16:16] <xelister> many bugs in KDE apps, like in kmail, are set to invalid because they are kde's fault
[16:17] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: Ah, OK I understand now.  Who is on this mentors admin team?
[16:17] <xelister> how are we sure it's not fault of the extra cra^H nice-gimmicks added by ubuntu that are causing the problems? like nopomuku, akonadi etc?
[16:17] <pedro_> bcurtiswx, nigelb we're going to be assigning students to mentors shortly, i've contacted all the people waiting for a mentor and I've received a few emails already
[16:17] <pedro_> the list of admins is listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/AdminList
[16:18] <pedro_> and the list of available students here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/Students
[16:18] <pedro_> though I just created the last one today, i'm still waiting for more responses and We'll be keeping that list up2date
[16:18] <nigelb> pedro_: yeah, I had volunteered to help out as admin :)
[16:19] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: same here, but i don't think we'll need that many admins, so i'll abstain for now until you need more mentor admins
[16:19] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: of course mentoring i'm still very happy to do :)
[16:19] <pedro_> the idea was  to be able to cover all the timezones with the admin team
[16:19] <pedro_> that's why we have 5 people there already
[16:20] <nigelb> oh, I see vish is already there for asia.  Rocking.  I'll probably just sign on as mentor then :)
[16:21] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: awesome then.  Great work! hopefully next UDS i can get some canonical support and join the discussions
[16:22] <pedro_> Please stay tune though because we're going to be contacting mentors shortly, the list of proposed members (students) on the mentorship team is huge so i hope to have more replies of those soon ;-)
[16:22] <pedro_> bcurtiswx, thanks!
[16:23] <pedro_> btw make sure to keep your data updated on the Mentors page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[16:23] <pedro_> timezone, area of interest, etc
[16:23] <pedro_> s/timezone/times available
[16:23] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: yup, mine is still acurate :)
[16:23] <pedro_> \o/
[16:24] <edakiri> xelister: those things (nepomuk, akonadi) are standard part of KDE4 and not added by Ubuntu.
[16:24] <bcurtiswx> o_ o| o_ o| <--- bowing down to you ;)
[16:25] <edakiri> xelister: things added by Ubuntu include: 'Software Sources', Software Center, a language package manager, and apport
[16:25] <xelister> edakiri: then it should be Ubuntu's responsiblity to humanity to remove totally useless VISTA-imitating bull, like nepomuk and virtuososomething from it
[16:26] <xelister> right now Im strugling to use kmail without it hanging each 30 seconds. And failing
[16:26] <edakiri> xelister: see http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/
[16:27] <xelister> interesting
[16:28] <xelister> btw, why ubuntu defaults to this 3d rendered desktop? that was "cool" for around first 15 minutes. 2 years ago.
[16:29] <xelister> I wouldn't list all this problems in useless software,  if it would not slow down a reasonable computer (2x2GHz, 2 GB ram) to crawl
[16:29] <xelister> nvidia binary driver. Neposomething was eating most cpu and ram
[16:29] <aburch> My Netbook with 1x1.6(?) GHz and 1 GB RAM is happy with KDE4.
[16:30] <xelister> not everyone has your laptop
[16:31] <xelister> kmail is hanging. again.
[16:31] <aburch> Not everybody has your "reasonable computer" either...
[16:31] <nigelb> xelister: report a bug to kde?
[16:32] <nigelb> I think the kubuntu folks like the bug reported directly upstream... maco ?
[16:32] <maco> yep
[16:32] <xelister> nigelb: they said its probably fault of n00b packaging
[16:32] <maco> if its a packaging problem it goes in lp
[16:32] <maco> but if its a software problem, bugs.kde.org
[16:32] <xelister> well or to put it nicer, problem with all the stuff added/changed/meh by distro, especially ubuntu
[16:32] <maco> nepomukservicestub
[16:33]  * xelister dreams of a world where nepomukservicestub would be actually a stub. { }
[16:33] <edakiri> nigelb: the bugs in KDE have been there since KDE4.  I reported a bug in Konqueror which was a duplicate and has been there for about a decade or more.
[16:34] <maco> nepomuk and virtuoso are main parts of teh kde desktop. not something kubuntu just adds in
[16:34] <xelister> oh, so it's almost as old as ubuntu's "cliboard doesnt work after source is closed" bug
[16:34] <maco> edakiri: theyre just keeping pace with firefox!
[16:34] <maco> :P
[16:34] <edakiri> xelister: we continue in #ubuntu-offtopic? or #Ubuntu?
[16:35] <edakiri> This is more a general issue about quantity of bugs and general reliability than about specific ones.
[17:17] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[17:17] <vish> nigelb: wanna be admin in the mentors too?  seems like your plate is quite empty ;p
[17:19] <nigelb> vish: No thanks ;) I'll mentor someone instead
[17:20] <vish> pedro_: i was considering sorting the mentors table, in the wiki according to UTC time rather name of mentors , would probably be easier to figure out when assigning students
[17:23] <pedro_> vish, sounds good to me ;-)
[17:23] <pedro_> m we need to contact the mentors with empty times available
[17:24] <vish> on it
[17:25] <pedro_> vish, thanks!
[17:25] <vish> maybe those mentors are available always ? ;p
[17:25] <vish> mentorbots ;)
[17:26] <vish> np.
[17:29] <pedro_> lol
[17:31] <qense> charlie-tca: <https://edge.launchpad.net/~adriangoodyer> fits nicely in your mentoring time-slot. Would you be willing to accept him as your mentor?
[17:31] <qense> student
[17:38] <charlie-tca> sure
[17:43]  * nigelb cheers for micahg :)
[17:43] <micahg> nigelb: ??
[17:43] <nigelb> micahg: desktop team meeting :)
[17:44] <micahg> maybe I should sit in there...
[17:45] <nigelb> yep you should :)
[17:57] <vish> hggdh: hi , is 11:00 - 06:00 UTC  , the right time available listed : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors  ?
[17:58] <hggdh> vish: let me translate it to local time ;-)
[17:58] <vish> hehe ;)
[18:00] <charlie-tca> Does seem like a lot of hours, huh?
[18:01] <hggdh> vish: this was valid while I was traveling; since now I do not travel as much, let's change it to 1300-23:59
[18:01] <hggdh> charlie-tca: it *was*, but I did not sleep much while traveling
[18:01] <hggdh> which, BTW, was hell, since I was *always* traveling
[18:01] <charlie-tca> heh, pretty close to none...
[18:02] <hggdh> yup
[18:02] <charlie-tca> I hate that schedule
[18:02] <vish> hggdh: cool , i'll update that ;)
[18:02] <hggdh> vish: thank you
[18:02] <hggdh> I forgot to update it myself...
[18:04] <vish> np.
[18:09] <vish> crimsun , JFo , maco , mrand , sbeattie , txwikinger : Hi , could you update your "time available" in the mentors wiki : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors  ?  no need to worry about the table order , you can just update the time
[18:11] <charlie-tca> vish: nice work
[18:11] <vish> thanks :)
[20:03] <genux> lo all.. I am new to triage and was wondering how would you triage this bug ?
[20:03] <genux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/588293
[20:03] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588293 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "Memory leak (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[20:04] <genux> or this bug
[20:04] <genux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/588107
[20:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588107 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox crashes while maximizing youtube video (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[20:05] <genux> because that one has files attached to it ?
[20:27] <charlie-tca> genux: looking at your wiki page, can I list your availability for mentoring as 5-9 pm UTC ?
[20:30] <genux> charlie-tca:I would say that I am availabile from 7-9 UTC.
[20:30] <micahg> genux: I'd be happy to chat with you about Firefox bug triage in about 7-8 hrs
[20:31] <genux> micahg: thanks for the offer, for me that would be 5am UTC :(..
[20:32] <micahg> genux: you can try to catch me around 13:00 UTC if you want
[20:33] <genux> micahg: great thanks :). shall try and see if you are around then :).
[20:33] <micahg> genux: k
[20:37] <charlie-tca> genii: Great! thanks
[20:45] <genux> thanks charlie-tca, just got the email about the approved for a mentor :)
[20:45] <charlie-tca> We are working on it... no problem
[20:59] <zus> http://pastebin.com/x2FCHAVg i get this when i try to search for anything in kpackagekit it told me to rreport the bug....i dont think its so much a bug as something i did or didnt do. can some one help me please
[21:26] <zus> so i found that some one reported the same thing and its marked confirmed, but i dont see where how i can fix this readin the  thread it appears to have been an issue before 10.04 was released.... but i am on 10.04
[21:28] <charlie-tca> zus: if it is the same exact bug, just comment on the existing bug that it also is in 10.04, and if the triager asked for any further information, try to supply it.
[21:29] <charlie-tca> Bugs marked confirmed mean someone else also has it, or there is enough information to determine it is indeed a bug. there may not be a known workaround for it, though.
[21:30] <zus> charlie-tca,  i will, i was fine untill i added a ppa for ktorrent 4 then when i decided to look for it i got the error.
[21:31] <charlie-tca> heh, yeah, the dangers of ppa's sometimes
[21:32] <micahg> zus: ppa-purge is nice
[21:32] <zus> micahg,  i didnt know of a command,...then what of ktorrent 4.0?
[21:33] <micahg> zus: oh, I thought you wanted to roll back from a PPA
[21:34] <zus> micahg,  if it correct my problem and allows me to keep kt4.0 :)
[21:34] <micahg> zus: did you end up with everything in a PPA instead of a few things?
[21:35] <zus> micahg, how do i find that out?
[21:36] <micahg> zus: let's go back, what's the bug?
[21:36] <zus> i dotn know if it's something i did or didnt do.
[21:36] <zus> http://pastebin.com/x2FCHAVg is my paste bin, also this is the page i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit/+bug/569564
[21:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 569564 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "KPackageKit error when searching for packages (affects: 2) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:37] <zus> im  commenting on it now as mentioned earlier.
[21:38] <micahg> zus: seems to be a bug in packagekit, I can't look more into it right, now, but I would suggest subscribing and marking as affects you
[21:38] <micahg> zus: no comment is needed
[21:40] <zus> i did, mark as affecting me... well as a memeber of the bug squad (new in fact) what can i do with this at this point? to help out
[21:41] <micahg> zus: check upstream ( I don't know offhand what that is for packagekit)  and see if there's a similar bug
[21:42] <zus> thank you
[21:42] <micahg> zus: you can also check the debian changelog in unstable and see if they've fixed it or if they have a bug as well
[21:43] <zus> is there a link to the debian unstable logs?
[21:47] <hggdh> zus: http://packages.debian.org
[21:48] <zus> hggdh,  thank you
[22:30] <xomp> hallo, got some issues with fastcgi daemon failing which is part of php-cgi. I never had this issue in ubuntu 8.0.4 but recently I did a fresh install of 10.04 and now randomly the process dies and I'm having to login via ssh (as this is my VPS) and starting it all again with /usr/bin/spawn-fcgi -a <IP_ADDRESS> -p 9000 -u www-data -g www-data -f /usr/bin/php5-cgi -P /var/run/fastcgi-php.pid
[22:31] <xomp> I was instructed to mention this via a bug report and was given a link and this channel
[22:31] <BUGabundo> xomp: please refer to #ubuntu
[22:31] <BUGabundo> this channel is meant for bug triage teams
[22:31] <BUGabundo> thanks for help making Ubuntu better
[22:31] <micahg> BUGabundo: user is asking for help in making a report
[22:32] <BUGabundo> too late
[22:32] <BUGabundo> he is gone
[22:32] <micahg> BUGabundo: still online
[22:32] <BUGabundo> (2010-06-01 22:32:00) xomp left the room ("Leaving").
[22:40] <xomp> I can't seem to figure out how to make this bug report. Seems the instructions rely completely on someone with a desktop, I only have SSH access as it's headless.
[22:41] <yofel> xomp: you can use 'apport-cli' if you just have a terminal
[22:41] <charlie-tca> xomp: does the unit you ssh from have the desktop?
[22:42] <xomp> charlie-tca, nyet, it's a VPS
[22:42] <xomp> yofel, ok, I shall try
[22:43] <charlie-tca> Then you can file manually. Start with this part - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net
[22:43] <charlie-tca> Be sure to include the information under "Writing a useful report" though.
[22:43] <xomp> I just came from there charlie-tca
[22:44] <charlie-tca> just a minute, please
[22:44] <xomp> I have an account
[22:44] <xomp> I'm suprised anyone uses this tbh, it seems a bit over complicated.
[22:45] <xomp> almost like getting a permit at your county office to have a building addon to your house :)
[22:45] <xomp> or doing your taxes
[22:46] <charlie-tca> should be  http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cgiwrap/+filebug?no-redirect
[22:46] <charlie-tca> Lets you file it directly in launchpad
[22:46] <xomp> great thanks!
[22:46] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:47] <charlie-tca> and, yes, it should be the cgiwrap package
[22:47] <charlie-tca> oh-oh
[22:47] <charlie-tca> that package doesn't exist in 10.04
[22:48] <xomp> #226841 Please sync cgiwrap 3.9-3.2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main). ?
[22:49] <charlie-tca> Gave you the wrong package
[22:50] <charlie-tca> they changed it for 10.04 to    http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapache-mod-fastcgi/+filebug?no-redirect
[22:50] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: you can file it from the console directly
[22:50] <charlie-tca> apparently cgiwrap is included in the libapache file now
[22:50] <BUGabundo> if x-www is set
[22:50] <xomp> charlie-tca, does it matter that I use nginx and not apache?
[22:50] <BUGabundo> I've done it twice in the past
[22:50] <BUGabundo> when X broke
[22:51] <charlie-tca> xomp: nope. A triager will fix it if it is wrong
[22:51] <xomp> ok
[22:51] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: what is the command?
[22:51] <BUGabundo> apport-cli ?
[22:51] <BUGabundo> :)
[22:51] <BUGabundo> it will launch a browser
[22:52] <BUGabundo> and it can very well be lynx
[22:52] <BUGabundo> if set
[22:52] <xomp> I can't seem to get this "No, I need to report a new bug" button  to work lol
[22:52] <charlie-tca> Might be slow
[22:52] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: I thought that was an offline collection of data only
[22:53] <BUGabundo> no
[22:53] <BUGabundo> apport can send it over lynxs
[22:53] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[22:53] <BUGabundo> or at least it did a cycle ago
[22:53] <charlie-tca> I will file that tip in my tips to report bugs file
[22:53] <yofel> it should, but LP doesn't work with at least w3m anymore, not sure about lynx
[22:53] <BUGabundo> orly?
[22:53] <BUGabundo> when was that?
[22:53] <yofel> something about the referrers
[22:54] <BUGabundo> bah
[22:54] <BUGabundo> FIXIT
[22:54] <charlie-tca> :-(
[22:54] <arand> I've got it working with elinks as of last
[22:54] <arand> BUGabundo: Exactly, YOU, FIXIT :þ
[22:54] <xomp> charlie-tca, seems that website hates IE, switched to FF and it works.
[22:55] <charlie-tca> I still like filing directly, but I normally get way more attachments than they can use
[22:55] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL xomp
[22:55] <micahg> xomp: there are a few bugs for IE in malone, feel free to file one
[22:55] <charlie-tca> xomp: Makes sense in a weird sort of way ;-)
[22:55] <BUGabundo> using IE on Ubuntu sites :)
[22:55] <BUGabundo> or rather... canonical
[22:55] <micahg> charlie-tca: only so far as MS doesn't follow standards
[22:55] <xomp> ok, it says I have submitted the bug, no idea what to expect from this.
[22:55] <xomp> BUGabundo, I don't use linux at home, only OS X and Win7 :)
[22:56] <charlie-tca> It should give you a final look then. That is the actual report
[22:56] <xomp> I only use linux if there is no other option heh
[22:56] <xomp> charlie-tca, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapache-mod-fastcgi/+bug/588506
[22:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588506 in libapache-mod-fastcgi (Ubuntu) "fastcgi daemon failing (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[22:56] <xomp> yay it worked!
[22:56]  * BUGabundo adds xomp to /ignore :p
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Someone will triage it, and probably ask you some questions about it. then it will go to the developers to try and get it fixed
[22:57] <xomp> cool, many thanks!
[22:57] <xomp> will they be contacting me via email?
[22:57] <yofel> you'll get a mail if someone changes something on the bug or comments on it
[22:57] <charlie-tca> You will get an email, yes
[22:57] <xomp> ok cool, thanks for all your help :)
[22:58] <xomp> now to find a temporary fix
[22:58] <charlie-tca> Is there any log that shows the bug?
[22:58] <yofel> (First one from me I guess as I just tagged the bug)
[22:58] <xomp> because I have 5 websits running off this installation lol
[22:58] <charlie-tca> It would be good to attach that log if you can
[22:58] <xomp> charlie-tca, which log would I attach?
[22:58] <micahg> xomp: you can subscribe to bug 500015 if you're interested
[22:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 500015 in malone "IE js error in filebug (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500015
[22:58] <charlie-tca> Does it show up in any?
[22:59] <xomp> charlie-tca, connect() failed (111: Connection refused) is in my nginx log files
[23:00] <xomp> which is what they seem to think is related to it dying but I'm not sure I understand it all
[23:00] <charlie-tca> If there is nothing private in it, you can attach that one
[23:00] <xomp> ok, it's pretty large heh
[23:01] <xomp> for what it's worth http://pastebin.com/4r8vg9Xq <- think I should include this in my bug report?
[23:04] <BUGabundo> you should be able to use apport-collect from your box to attach all logs
[23:04] <BUGabundo> right guys?
[23:05] <charlie-tca> good point, BUGabundo
[23:06] <charlie-tca> xomp: instead of guessing what is needed, just use 'apport-collect 588506' and it should automatically attach the logs
[23:06] <xomp> charlie-tca, I may have to apt-get install that, what's the package name?
[23:06] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316272 autch... FIGHT
[23:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 316272 in launchpad-registry "launchpad should verify gmail or DomainKeys authenticators (affects: 1) (heat: 22)" [Low,In progress]
[23:06] <charlie-tca> won't work in terminal only install
[23:08] <xomp> charlie-tca, ?? not sure what you mean.
[23:08] <xomp> -bash: apport-collect: command not found
[23:08] <xomp> I can't apt-get install apport or something?
[23:09] <charlie-tca> I'm looking
[23:09] <yofel> you should, it should be part of apport afaik
[23:09] <arand> apport-cli ?
[23:09] <charlie-tca> yup, apt-get install apport
[23:09] <xomp> ah great!
[23:10] <xomp> ok charlie-tca I'm taking your suggestion and doing apport-collect 588506
[23:10] <BUGabundo> humm won't go
[23:10] <BUGabundo> he needs more stuff
[23:10] <charlie-tca> thanks, xomp
[23:10] <BUGabundo> the launchpad lib
[23:10] <micahg> xomp: I'm moving the bug to php5 as that's what builds php5-cgi
[23:10] <xomp> micahg, ok, no idea what that means but thanks for letting me know heh
[23:11] <charlie-tca> See, someone smarter than me will help with it.
[23:11] <xomp> hehe you do good charlie-tca :)
[23:12] <micahg> xomp: the package you put it in is in multiverse so it likely doesn't have someone looking after it like php5 :), so while charlie-tca was right in that someone would triage it, it was more likely to come later rather than sooner, php5 is looked after by the server team, so it would probably either go there or spawn-fcgi, but I don't know enough about fcgi to make that call :)
[23:13] <xomp> oh hah thanks micahg :D
[23:16] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/588512
[23:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 588512 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport tags as unity (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[23:18] <xomp> :)


[14:02] <pikachuza> hey all, anyone here?
[16:05] <pikachuza> hello?
[16:07] <Faux> Hi!  If this is related to something that could be answered by the topic, I'll cry.
[18:52] <pikachuza> just looking for more info on how to package java war archives for Ubuntu?
[18:53] <pikachuza> I am looking for info on how to adjust the rules file for a maven build process?


[00:04] <Doyle> Hey. Is there a bug for the system freezing when the screen times out and locks? Also happens when ctrl+l is used.
[00:05] <Doyle> or is there a fix?
[00:13] <bprompt> well
[00:13] <bprompt> screen blacking out or locked and not coming back up from standby or sleep or whatever else, is usually a videocard driver issue
[00:14] <bprompt> you could try checking the backports repositories for some update on them, or a newer one from the videocard chipset maker, or just trying an older driver
[00:16] <excalibr> Can someone who use 15.10 please make a screenshot of the Leave section in application launcher for me?
[00:23] <excalibr> awkward silence
[00:24]  * bprompt drops a pin
[00:24] <bprompt> excalibr:    I run 12.04 for one :)
[00:30] <Doyle> I see you like to live dangerously
[00:31] <Doyle> that's how you get poodles
[00:50] <bprompt> dangereously?  nope, runs smooth :)
[01:03] <Fanfare> Q: Where is automount gone in systemsettings?
[01:09] <bprompt> I'm on 12.04 and I don't even see it there
[01:12] <mparillo> excalibr: Settle for 16.04? http://imgur.com/1krFglR
[01:16] <excalibr> mparillo, thank you. The old icons in the launcher actually look much better than the new ones which look just like bunch of fruits salad
[01:16] <excalibr> http://i.imgur.com/ZSFXNZM.png
[01:22] <mparillo> Actually, I think I liked the Plasma 4 default theming best of all (though I still switch my cursor theme to Oxygen Yellow).
[09:45] <CalvinSetham> kde
[10:38] <jubo2> Hey y0 piippöls
[10:39] <jubo2> I've been following some instructions on how to make an USB stick that a Mac will boot but no luck
[10:39] <jubo2> I gonna install a 0.5TB disk to mi mum's old mac today and it is the perfect opportunity to install Kubuntu by side
[10:39] <jubo2> if someone has instructions that are known to work it'd be much appreciated
[11:19] <acidz1010> hi guys
[11:51] <Captain_Haddock> The systray system update indicator has a red/white cross in it. Does this mean that there are no updates available?
[11:51] <Captain_Haddock> (Even though my system is up to date, clicking the icon shows me 9 updates available.)
[11:52] <hateball> It means that muon-updater is not very awesome
[11:53] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[11:54] <Captain_Haddock> I also now have two audio player icons in my systray. Clementine and a media player icon both reporting the same thing :|
[11:55] <hateball> you could hide one
[11:57] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: I could. But it seems so pointless. Does Amarok not display a tray icon now or something?
[11:57] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:57] <Captain_Haddock> (pointless to have one, I meean)
[11:57] <Captain_Haddock> 'afternoon lordievader
[11:57] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: I do not know, I do not use a desktop music player
[11:58] <lordievader> Hey Captain_Haddock
[11:58] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: k
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> hiya BluesKaj
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> Anyhow, I'm happy to see that activities/desktops now support individual wallpapers and such.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> hi Captain_Haddock
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> Any idea what else I can customise per activity/desktop?
[12:02] <Captain_Haddock> I would ideally like to change the appearance of each desktop's taskbar so I know for sure which desktop I am on.
[12:02] <hateball> you could put a sticky note with a comment/number on each desktop
[12:02] <hateball> tho that wouldnt work so great if you fullscreen things I guess
[12:03] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: I won't see that until I minimise the application. (Anyway, I already have wallpapers specific to each desktop)
[12:03] <Captain_Haddock> yeah
[12:03] <Captain_Haddock> Adding widgets to the taskbar appears to be common to all desktops.
[12:03] <hateball> isnt there a plasmoid for desktop/activity switching ?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> I tried activities, but it's too clunky for my taste, still prefer the pager/VDs even tho the wallpapers are the same
[12:03] <hateball> that one can add to the tray
[12:04] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: In 14.10, it was really tiny. But lemme try that again.
[12:07] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: Wee. There's an Activities "Bar" widget now, which is like a set of tab to move between activities.
[12:08] <Captain_Haddock> While it's really long now as the names for my activities are long, I'm happy to use abbreviations and shorten the length of the bar.
[12:08] <Captain_Haddock> Cheers :)
[12:08] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: I have the two of them linked. Activies and desktops.
[12:10] <Captain_Haddock> Single letter activity names work great!
[12:12] <Captain_Haddock> OK, now the only really annoying issue remaining post-upgrade is systray icons for Wine apps.
[12:12] <Captain_Haddock> For which I can apparently do nothing.
[12:13] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: :)
[12:13] <hateball> I thought there was some manner of workaround for that, the icon thing
[12:14] <hateball> I am unaffected in my usage, so I havent read into it
[12:14] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: For the Skype icon, there's a 32-bit package that fixes it.
[12:14] <hateball> I use a browser, a terminal, and steam. That's about it
[12:14] <BluesKaj> hmm konversation segfaulted
[12:15] <Captain_Haddock> For Wine, apparently I have to wait. Someone mentioned an elaborate workaround for it, but I gave up. I'll wait.
[12:15] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Primary wine app usage for me is mirc :)
[12:15]  * Captain_Haddock gave up on Konversation (and Quassel).
[12:16] <BluesKaj> not interested in mirc, Captain_Haddock , I'm testing 16.04
[12:16] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: :) Do you use Yakuake?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> when mirc gets ported to linux then I might try it
[12:17] <BluesKaj> yes yakuake is my main terminal
[12:17] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: Nope, just a regular konsole
[12:17] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:18] <hateball> I prefer many terminals over a single tabbed one so I prefer it over yakuake
[12:18] <hateball> and I switch around the things using krunner
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Cool. I would prefer the same, but Konversation and Quassel have too many niggles.
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: aha
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: But most specifically, their notification/highlight features simply don't do what I want done.
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: I asked about Yakuake since I thought that gamers might be partial to it :)
[12:20] <BluesKaj> highlight features that i need work well on konverstaion
[12:20] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: Oh :) well I mostly use terminal stuff for work. at home a single terminal does what little I need done, run irssi etc
[12:20] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[12:20] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Cool
[12:21] <Captain_Haddock> What's going to be new in 16.04?
[12:21]  * Captain_Haddock is going to upgrade to it when it comes out and stick with it for 2 years :|
[12:21] <BluesKaj> not much so far
[12:22] <hateball> I think you might be able to run all of plasma on wayland by then, with some luck and such
[12:22] <hateball> so that is pretty exciting !
[12:22] <BluesKaj> it's actually worse after today's upgrades
[12:22] <lordievader> UDC has ended, has it not?
[12:22] <lordievader> Err, UDS.
[12:23] <BluesKaj> which UDS ?
[12:24] <Captain_Haddock> Is a Wayland developer called a Waylander?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> nope waylandev
[12:25] <BluesKaj> ;-)
[12:25] <lordievader> The one about 16.04? UDS = Ubuntu Developer Summit, conference about the future of Ubuntu. And thus in particular what needs to happen to 16.04
[12:26] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj :)
[12:27] <lordievader> Oh, it is a UOS nowadays. Which was November 5th till the 8th.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> well, it's definitely going to be a LTS so far
[12:29] <BluesKaj> whether there's going to be a 16.10 in Kubuntu's future remains to be seen
[12:29] <StevenR_> greetings! i'm somewhat a linux newb. is there a way to make kubuntu 14.04 lts look like (the pics of) 15.10?
[12:30] <StevenR_> or would it be easier to just reinstall and start with 15.10?
[12:30] <StevenR_> or upgrade?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> install 15.10
[12:31] <Captain_Haddock> I'm not sure if you can upgrade directly to 15.10. You might have to go through 14.10 and 15.04.
[12:31]  * Captain_Haddock recently upgraded from 14.10.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, do you have separate / and /home partitions?
[12:32] <StevenR_> i believe they are seperate
[12:32] <StevenR_> is that default?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> no
[12:32] <StevenR_> oh...
[12:33] <StevenR_> probably are the same then
[12:33] <Captain_Haddock> StevenR_: Anyhow, if you wait a few more months you'll be able to upgrade directly to 16.04.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> then a data backup and aclena install is your best bet
[12:33] <Captain_Haddock> Else you need to go through three upgrades :|
[12:33] <BluesKaj> a clean install even
[12:33] <StevenR_> ok. thanks
[12:34] <StevenR_> i'll probably install 15.10 fresh
[12:34] <StevenR_> probably easier for me
[12:34] <hateball> StevenR_: If you're in a rush. Otherwise 16.04 will be more polished
[12:34] <StevenR_> i'm not patient
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> lol
[12:34] <hateball> Well then :P
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> BTW, wasn't there a partition manager applet in System Settings at some point?
[12:35] <StevenR_> got two linux partitions at the moment. i'll keep the lts kubuntu and install over ubuntu 15.10
[12:36] <Captain_Haddock> Or a mount point manager?
[12:36] <Captain_Haddock> StevenR_: Yeah, screw ubuntu :)
[12:37] <BluesKaj> you could just install kubuntu-desktop to your ubuntu install and choose your desktop at login
[12:37] <hateball> ^
[12:38] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Fresh install over ubuntu.
[12:39] <StevenR_> how likely will installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu lead to 'issues'?
[12:40] <StevenR_> well nevermind i don't want to have to choose at login. i like autologin
[12:40] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, that kubuntu-desktop install suggestion was directed to you
[12:40] <Captain_Haddock> He'll still have to upgrade to 15.10 though, right?
[12:40] <StevenR_> i have a 15.10 ubuntu install
[12:40] <BluesKaj> well you have several options
[12:41] <Captain_Haddock> Aha!
[12:41] <hateball> StevenR_: You can still have autologin tho, just need to configure it in the login manager
[12:41] <hateball> It doesnt have to be done at install-time
[12:42] <StevenR_> probably easier than installing all my software again... gonna give it a go. at the login manager meaning from inside kde? or at the login screen?
[12:43] <hateball> StevenR_: You will be able to edit sddm settings once logged in
[12:43] <hateball> (or in config files if one wants)
[12:43] <StevenR_> so there's a way with GUI?
[12:44] <hateball> iirc yes, am not on 15.10/sddm right now
[12:55] <StevenR_> another thing... i have a onboard intel 3000 something i think gpu in this laptop. there appears to be some sort of 'glitch' with kubuntu 14.04 that i never noticed on ubuntu 15.10
[12:55] <StevenR_> tearing maybe it's called
[12:55] <StevenR_> like stuff takes a minute to 'update'...
[12:56] <StevenR_> might only be the chromium now that i think about it
[12:56] <StevenR_> was using vivaldi on ubuntu though and it's based on the same thing?
[12:57] <BluesKaj>  i switched to chrome , it's embedded flash version is much better
[12:57] <StevenR_> i see
[12:57] <StevenR_> have to add a repo?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> still saves/syncs all your bookmarks /settings etc from chromium
[12:58] <StevenR_> (y)
[12:58] <StevenR_> cool maybe i'll give that a go
[12:58] <BluesKaj> no just download the deb file from chrome's site and run the installer
[12:59] <StevenR_> k. then it updates itself?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:00] <BluesKaj> it will add the ppa to to your sources.list.d file automatically
[13:00] <StevenR_> sweet
[13:00] <BluesKaj> runs great
[13:00] <hateball> StevenR_: there is a bug with vsync + intel iirc. also make sure you set opengl renderer to 3.1 instead of 2.0
[13:00] <hateball> BluesKaj: if you use pepperflashplugin-nonfree it *is* chrome, in chromium
[13:01] <StevenR_> hateball how might i do that?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hateball, no it's not the same
[13:01] <StevenR_> i never installed pepperflash yet on kubuntu
[13:01] <hateball> all it does is pull down chromes deb, rip out the .so file and then add to chromiums script
[13:01] <StevenR_> but i'm installing chrome
[13:01] <BluesKaj> it's not the pepperflash on chrome at all
[13:01] <hateball> ..
[13:02] <StevenR_> how do i set opengl render to 3.1 instead of 2.0
[13:02] <StevenR_> ?
[13:02] <hateball> StevenR_: open krunner, search for compositing
[13:02] <hateball> should get you the proper menu
[13:03] <StevenR_> got it thanks :)
[13:04] <StevenR_> so for kubuntu 14.04 to look like 15.10 there's more needed than just a theme? like a new version of kde or plasma or something like that?
[13:04] <hateball> Correct
[13:05] <StevenR_> ok
[13:05] <hateball> 14.04 is KDE 4.x, 15.10 is KDE Plasma 5.x
[13:05] <StevenR_> 15.10 looks nice :)
[13:06] <StevenR_> i tried some new themes on 14.04 but not very impressed tbh
[13:07] <StevenR_> thanks for all the help. going to reboot into ubuntu and install kubuntu desktop. mgiht be back soon ;)
[13:08] <BluesKaj> I still prefer kde4/plasma4 personally .it has more features that plasma 5 has dropped
[13:19] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: yes, maybe. But I bet that plasma5 + wayland will be way smother an experience than X + KDE4
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, yeah , but wayland seems to be taking it's time getting packaged and setup upstream ..we've been anticipating it for a few releases, but nothing seems definite yet
[13:24] <yofel> well, wayland session login made it into 5.5 this week, so you should be able to have a wayland session that you can use in the beta.
[13:24] <yofel> Still lots of features missing I beilve, but it should be somewhat usable
[13:25] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Well - using it on my ubuntu phone if I'm correct (Not with plasma though).
[13:25] <Smurphy> or is it tha fork ?
[13:25] <Smurphy> what was the name agian ?
[13:25] <yofel> ubuntu phone uses Mir, unless something changed
[13:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, ubuntu doesn't use plasma
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ubuntu phones aren't available here
[13:40] <StevenR_> installing kubuntu desktop on ubuntu 15.10... almost done downloading packages... it asks: default display manager: lightdm or sddm? if i want to auto boot into kde what do i select?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> yofel, i'm stiil on 5.4.2/16.10 , probly be a while til we see 5.5 here I imagine, unless it's in staging or some such
[13:40] <BluesKaj> sddm
[13:41] <StevenR_> thx
[13:44] <StevenR_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1 E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kaccounts-providers_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/providers/google.provider', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+15
[13:46] <StevenR_> i've not used telepathy yet nor do i plan to so no big deal i guess?
[13:46] <StevenR_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-accounts-kcm/+bug/1490659
[13:46] <StevenR_> says something there about crash after boot
[13:46] <BluesKaj> I usually just remove telepathy ..no need
[13:47] <StevenR_> ok thanks
[13:47] <Smurphy> yeah, it's Mir they use. And it works quite nicely.
[13:48] <StevenR_> so i just log out then back in?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> not sure, a reboot should work for sure
[13:51] <StevenR_> software updater inside unity is saying the package system is broken
[13:53] <StevenR_> nvm recommends disabling third party repos
[13:53] <StevenR_> trying htat
[13:53] <BluesKaj> run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, ignore that updater gui
[13:53] <StevenR_> k doing that
[13:54] <StevenR_> 1 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them. Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kde-telepathy-minimal : Depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[13:55] <StevenR_> going to try rebooting i guess. i always got the kubuntu lts as a failsafe i guess
[14:01] <StevenR_> seems the switch worked :)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, run sudo apt-get -f install
[14:03] <StevenR_> (Reading database ... 325496 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is
[14:06] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, use pastebin for those posts pls
[14:06] <StevenR_> k will do from now on
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ok try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:09] <StevenR_> http://pastebin.com/krbf6hE3
[14:11] <genii> sudo apt-get install kde-config-telepathy-accounts
[14:13] <StevenR_> http://pastebin.com/C4dEf43u
[14:15] <StevenR_> should i run: apt-get autoremove?
[14:15] <genii> StevenR_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yes, then try sudo apt remove telepathy
[14:17] <BluesKaj> ok , genii to the rescue StevenR_ ignore my remove above
[14:17]  * genii makes more coffee
[14:17] <StevenR_> genii the command seemed to finish. BluesKaj was just about to ask if that would undo it lol
[14:18] <genii> StevenR_: Now try again the sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:19]  * BluesKaj fnishes his last java for today
[14:19] <StevenR_> http://pastebin.com/p1zmYgD9
[14:19] <StevenR_> seemed to work. thank you guys
[14:20]  * BluesKaj doesn't understand why telepathy isn't optional
[14:21] <BluesKaj> it shouldn't be deault IMO
[14:21] <BluesKaj> default
[14:22] <BluesKaj> same goes the PIM suite
[14:24] <genii> I feel that way about Akonadi ;)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> that sort of connected to PIM , kmail and all that junk
[14:25] <BluesKaj> kmail was great before they decided it needed a database
[14:25] <BluesKaj> mucked it up
[14:58] <yuriy> Hello
[14:58] <yuriy> i want to reinstall my kubuntu from scratch
[14:58] <yuriy> i tried to run install from live CD, but it fails start
[14:59] <yuriy> it shows something like job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces.
[14:59] <yuriy> what can i do to run process?
[15:00] <yuriy> pls help
[15:22] <BluesKaj> yuriy, so your md5sum wasn't good, i saw your post in #ubuntu
[15:36] <Simonious> nilfs2 vs f2fs anybody have any experience?  f2fs is looking slightly better..  (for storing polled data on a flash drive on a raspi)
[15:38] <sandroandrade> Hi, any chance for having the Qt5-based version of drumstick packaged for Kubuntu ?
[17:01] <havoc86> good evening
[17:02] <havoc86> I upgraded to wily and kwallet doesn't work anymore :(
[17:02] <havoc86> anybody can help?
[17:09] <havoc86> I'm unable to access the old wallet and unable to create a new one
[17:44] <Riste> Hello everyone!
[17:49] <Riste> I need some help with browsers, I'm runing a kubuntu on a 8gig ram and Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz yet chromium eats all of the cpu power, why is this happening
[17:50] <Riste> this configuration should run chromium or mozila without any problems
[17:50] <Riste> p.s. I have all the latests updates installed and im running 5.10
[17:53] <soee_> Riste: maybe ou have some extension in Chromium tak causes this ?
[17:54] <Riste> I doubt that, I don't have any extensions in firefox yet same thing happens while chrome is killed
[17:54] <Riste> chromium*
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Riste, I use chrome instead, it runs much better on my system
[18:03] <Riste> Hello again BluesKaj :D, i guess ill give it a try, yesterday their linux download link was dead so i'll try again today
[18:07] <lordievader> Riste: Could you give a sample of the output of 'vmstat 1' (it'll run indefinetly)
[18:09] <Riste> Hello lordievader: procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu-----  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa st  3  0      0 2569456  86684 2151280    0    0     0     0 3393 10075 75  8 18  0  0 10  0      0 2561488  86684 2159424    0    0     0     0 4003 11699 81 10  9  0  0  8  0      0 2548556  86684 2166084    0    0     4     0 3932 10330 83 12  6  0  0  9  0
[18:09] <BluesKaj> Riste, https://www.google.ca/chrome/browser/desktop/
[18:10] <Riste> Thank you BluesKaj already installed it xD seems to be running today :D
[18:11] <lordievader> Riste: Err, could you pastebin that?
[18:11] <genii> !pastebin | Riste
[18:12] <Riste> !pastebin procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu-----  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa st  3  0      0 2569456  86684 2151280    0    0     0     0 3393 10075 75  8 18  0  0 10  0      0 2561488  86684 2159424    0    0     0     0 4003 11699 81 10  9  0  0  8  0      0 2548556  86684 2166084    0    0     4     0 3932 10330 83 12  6  0  0  9  0      0 2
[18:12] <Riste> wait how does this work xD
[18:12] <Riste> ah figured it out
[18:13] <lordievader> Riste: You go to http://paste.kde.org upload your paste there and give us the link to the paste.
[18:13] <Riste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370359/
[18:13] <lordievader> Hmm, lots of user time...
[18:14] <lordievader> Riste: What does the chrome task manager tell you?
[18:16] <Riste> Lordievader http://imgur.com/KfmxHEx
[18:17] <lordievader> I see a plugin taking 148% cpu, is there a flash video playing by any chance?
[18:18] <Riste> yeah, quite a few youtube, and this miniclip game
[18:18] <lordievader> Ah, two youtube tabs. Try closing all things flash and see if it goes down.
[18:18] <Riste> however that still shouldn't overload the cpu
[18:19] <Riste> will try that
[18:19] <genii> !pastebin testing bot edit
[18:20] <genii> !pastebin
[18:21] <lordievader> genii: Nice edit :)
[18:27] <Riste> Hello, sorry for the delay lordievader: http://imgur.com/2eJ8Wyb this is with just fb running and a helpdesk tab
[18:28] <lordievader> Riste: As you can see, there is quite a difference. The numbers are a lot lower. Do you see the same in top (or any other cpu monitor)?
[18:29] <Riste> Yeah, that is correct, however the spikes are still persistent
[18:29] <Riste> And the browser still feels sluggish
[18:30] <Riste> My point is this configuration should be able to run far more than just few youtube tabs and a flash game
[18:30] <lordievader> Hmm, agreed. Do other browsers have the same problem?
[18:31] <Riste> Tried Firefox for a short period of time and it was the same case this is really weird o.o
[18:31] <lordievader> Hmm, that is rather odd.
[18:31] <lordievader> Riste: What graphics card and driver do you use?
[18:32] <Riste> before the update i was able to watch movies and after a certain update i think everything started to slowly screw up
[18:32] <Riste> when going to fullscreen fps dropped
[18:32] <Riste> lordivader: give me a sec to check xD
[18:33] <Riste> Lordivader: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:34] <lordievader> Riste: Could you give the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA'?
[18:35] <EvilRoey> hi
[18:35] <EvilRoey> how do I search for a hex value in a file?
[18:35] <Riste> lordievader: was just doing that xD
[18:35] <EvilRoey> does Kate have a hex viewer?
[18:35] <Riste> https://paste.kde.org/pfl5vlyas
[18:35] <Riste> lordivader: https://paste.kde.org/pfl5vlyas
[18:36] <sithlord48> EvilRoey: install oktata open file (its a hex editor)
[18:36] <sithlord48> EvilRoey: ** okteta **
[18:36] <BluesKaj> Riste, make sure you're using compositor OpenGL 3.1 not 2.0 setting
[18:37] <EvilRoey> ahhhhhh oktata, right
[18:37] <EvilRoey> thanks
[18:37] <EvilRoey> sithlord48:  thanks!
[18:37] <sithlord48> EvilRoey: ur welcome
[18:38] <lordievader> Riste: You could use tab to autocomplete my nick ;)
[18:38] <Riste> @BluesKaj hmm it was set to OpenGL 2.0
[18:38] <Riste> lordievader: damn thats handy ahhaha, new to all this sorry xD
[18:38] <lordievader> Riste: What is the output of 'cat /proc/cmdline'?
[18:39] <Riste> lordievader: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-18-generic root=UUID=4dc1d5b3-e410-4dc3-a2a8-c1a76c8e5c29 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[18:39] <lordievader> Right, nothing wrong there.
[18:40] <Riste> btw, just switched to opengl 3.1
[18:40] <Riste> lordievader: btw, i want to thank you for the time and that you're trying to help me x)
[18:41] <lordievader> Riste: No problem ;)
[18:42] <lordievader> Riste: Do html5 videos show the same problem?
[18:42] <Riste> lordievader: its wei'rd that youtube videos don't lag, however i don't think i've notticed any problems with that, ill go and check all the video type players
[18:44] <lordievader> Actually that might be a clue, I think youtube prefers HTML5 nowadays... It might simply be flash misbehaving.
[18:45] <Riste> lordievader: ok so html5 small player sized doesn't have problems, however going to fullscreen it loses fps, this indicates gpu problems imo
[18:46] <lordievader> Hmm, it might be indeed. What resolution is your screen?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Riste, that could be a function of the internet connection, the website and other internet problems. Try a video stored on your HDD
[18:49] <Riste> lordievader: atm im running dual screen on this laptop the laptop screen resultion is 1366x768 and the other screen which has only 2gmail tabs opened is 1920x1080
[18:49] <Riste> BluesKaj: I can assure you it's not the internet however nice point, ill try downloading something now and giving it a test.
[18:49] <lordievader> Hmm, that shouldn't be a problem.
[18:50] <Riste> hmm another good clue, running it fullscreen whilst its downloaded doesnt lose fps
[18:50] <Riste> the same video i tried on the browser
[18:51] <BluesKaj> to me a direct link like a video on the hdd is the baseline then go from there
[18:52] <Riste> BluesKaj: that's what I did, I downloaded the video on the HDD played it no issues
[18:53] <Riste> this means that it might be problem with the online players on the browsers
[18:54] <Riste> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.6.1) (7u85-2.6.1-5ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.85-b03, mixed mode)
[18:57] <BluesKaj> I use the BBC video playe/flashplayer as a test it's the best player I've used over this 6mb dsl connection, it's a good test for a browser like firefox or chrome
[18:59] <BluesKaj> even my local CBC online player can't compete with the BBC
[19:00] <Riste> BluesKaj: what're you suggesting for me install a BBC extention on chromium or smth?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> nopw, just use it as a test
[19:00] <BluesKaj> nope
[19:01] <Riste> If i were to use it it would be local, and I already tested local on HDD videos don't lose frames even in fullscreen unlike in the browser
[19:01] <Riste> so im sorry but i dont understand what you're trying to suggest
[19:03] <BluesKaj> strictly for online tests of your flash plugin to elinimate the player itself as the problem
[19:03] <BluesKaj> eliminate even
[19:04] <OpenSSL> in firefox for youtube it was using the flashplayer for the longest time :<
[19:04] <OpenSSL> https://youtube.com/html5 to force the HTML5 player
[19:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's mostly HTML5 now afaik
[19:05] <BluesKaj> I don't youtube much tho
[19:05] <OpenSSL> I personally use Minitube where possible
[19:06] <OpenSSL> http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube (one in the repositories is outdated, I install from here and then lock the package)
[19:07] <Riste> Nope, still result even with the html5 link when going full screen
[19:07] <Riste> lol this is so weird
[19:08] <OpenSSL> Riste: when you right click does the contextmenu have "Adobe Flash 11.blahblahblah" at the bottom
[19:08] <Riste> OpenSSL: nope, its the html5 player, it goes about html5
[19:09] <OpenSSL> hmm
[19:09] <Riste> I dont think its the players themselves...
[19:17] <Riste_> Sorry guys i accidently uplugged the ethernet, anything u said i didint read xD
[22:47] <dlnx``> hello
[22:48] <dlnx``> trying to install kubuntu 15.10 on my laptop
[22:48] <dlnx``> can't get mouse or keyboard to work
[22:48] <dlnx``> they're inactive
[22:49] <dlnx``> not very much bios options to fiddle with, lenovo x1 carbon
[22:49] <dlnx``> not many*
[22:50] <dlnx``> anyone?
[22:51] <bprompt> dlnx``:   sounds like it's frozen, rather than the keyboard and mouse aren't working... I run 12.04, but 15.10 should install the same way more  or less, so... I don't think it's the input devices, so much that the setup is frozen or stalled for some reason
[22:52] <dlnx``> bprompt: how can I tell?
[22:52] <dlnx``> also
[22:52] <dlnx``> what can I do?
[22:52] <bprompt> a frozen system would it .... well, frozen
[22:53] <bprompt> dlnx``:    retry to boot with it, disabling some options, from the Kubuntu menu at startup, usually you can disable some things through the F6 key or f5
[22:57] <dlnx``> k, thanks
[22:58] <Gavin_> Hello
[22:58] <bprompt> allo
[23:00] <Gavin_> anyone running Kubuntu 15.10?
[23:03] <mparillo> Gavin_: I am sure many of us are here. Do you have a specific question?
[23:10] <Gavin_> I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 610 but my screen keeps blinking