[06:51] <ved_> Hi everybody
[06:52] <ved_> I have lubuntu 13.4 I wan to upgrade to 13.10, how can I do?
[06:58] <Unit193> Open the Upgrade Manager, or  do-release-upgrade  from the terminal.
[07:04] <ved_> it does't offer me to upgrade
[07:04] <ved_> when i do apt-get upgrade, it doesn't find any upgrade
[07:05] <Unit193> When did I say that ever?
[07:05] <Unit193> !upgrade | ved_
[07:05] <ved_> sudo apt-get upgrade  [sudo] password for ved:  Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances        Lecture des informations d'état... Fait 0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
[07:08] <Unit193> I'm going to guess language problem.
[07:08] <Unit193> !fr | ved_
[07:10] <ved_> ok it is working now. Thaks everybody
[14:16] <malaphus> Hmm, after updating from 13.04 to 13.10 gedit no longer has the little notepad icon in lxpanel's window list, its just the default icon now (white app window with blue titlebar), all of my other programs seem to work fine though, any ideas?
[14:19] <brainwash> malaphus: bug 1219120
[14:19] <malaphus> Ahh
[14:20] <brainwash> not a big deal though, just a visual "glitch"
[14:20] <malaphus> Yeah
[14:20] <malaphus> gnome-terminal right click menu is also all messed up
[14:22] <malaphus> ah, if I run gnome-terminal while NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 is set, the menu looks fine though
[14:23] <brainwash> nice find
[14:23] <malaphus> still got that damned ssh-agent problem though, but other than that I think i've got everything else back up and running
[14:24] <brainwash> maybe you should consider filing a bug report
[14:24] <malaphus> It looks like both ssh-agent and gnome-keyring-daemon both are loading for me at login, and im guessing ssh-agent is overwriting SSH_AUTH_SOCK because if I manually set SSH_AUTH_SOCK to the path created by gnome-keyring-daemon, everything works fine
[14:25] <malaphus> Just not sure why ssh-agent is getting loaded on startup for me
[14:25] <malaphus> brainwash: well, i'm thinking its just my system probably
[14:26] <brainwash> other people might be affected too
[15:38] <herring> i cant seem to get xfce4-power-manager to NOT suspend/hibernate the laptop when i close the lid..
[15:45] <herring> i just uncommented and changed HandleLidSwitch=ignore
[15:46] <herring> in /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[15:46] <herring> does the trick
[16:04] <BassSultan> hi, i am using lubntu on my lenovo thinkpad. today i had some software updates and after restart my keyboard would work only at the login dialog but not once i logged in as my standard user. also it didnt load my personal /etc/xdg/autostart script about the touchpad. any1 can help? thx :)
[20:15] <jarnos> I tried to make xscreensaver daemon autostart by copying /usr/share/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-daemon.desktop to /etc/xdg/autostart/ The respective item is enabled in Automatically Started Applications tab in Desktop Session Settings. Why is xscreensaver daemon not running after I login next time?
[20:28] <brainwash> jarnos: did you already try to create a custom autostart launcher?
[20:29] <jarnos> brainwash, no
[20:30] <jarnos> I don't see what is wrong with the one I copied.
[20:31] <brainwash> maybe a general problem
[20:31] <brainwash> do other autostart entries work?
[20:33] <wxl> what's the command to suspend? do i have to use dbus, or will an echo to /sys/power/state suffice? trying to set up a keyboard shortcut…
[20:36] <brainwash> lxsession, logind, upower, pm-suspend, echoing,..
[20:39] <Unit193> wxl: dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.Suspend boolean:true    :-------D
[20:39] <wxl> brainwash: i thought pm-suspend was deprecated?
[20:40] <brainwash> uhm, no
[20:40] <Unit193> pm-utils is seeded in Lubuntu too.
[20:40] <wxl> okie dokie then
[20:40] <brainwash> logind currently calls pm-suspend
[20:43] <brainwash> because the support for running suspend hooks is missing or not fully implemented
[20:43] <Unit193> Heh, oh.  So calling it from dbus isn't the best, nice.
[20:43] <Unit193> Looks like I should have asked you yesterday.
[20:44] <brainwash> why not?
[20:44] <brainwash> logind calls pm-utils
[20:48] <Unit193> That's what I read, it was an older report though so it had something about it not getting a return signal always.  Anyway, I read the Freedesktop API yesterday on it, but you still know more. :P
[20:48] <brainwash> I might be wrong, maybe I mixed up things
[20:51] <Unit193> No, you're good I'm sure.
[20:52] <jarnos> brainwash, yes, it is general. The others do not run eihter.
[20:52] <jarnos> brainwash, including update-notifier
[20:54] <brainwash> that's bad news
[20:56] <wxl> brainwash: so what about echo -n mem > /sys/power/state ?
[20:56] <wxl> (obviously need to be root)
[20:57] <brainwash> that's kernel-space suspend
[20:57] <brainwash> if it works without causing trouble, us it
[20:58] <brainwash> use
[21:00] <wxl> brainwash: so rather than bugging you incessantly about this as you seem to be the one in the know, is there a good place you can recommend to further explore this topic in general? if not, what are the implications of the lower level suspend?
[21:02] <brainwash> the user session might not be aware of it, not sure about the impact
[23:20] <sisterFister> hello everyone.
[23:21] <sisterFister> I recently put lubuntu on this little 2003 hp and it's working great
[23:21] <wxl> sisterFister: glad you're enjoying it :)
[23:21] <sisterFister> just one question though, how do i make sure that the monospace font is set to monospace ? The letter spacing in the terminal is very strange.
[23:22] <sisterFister> $ fc-match "Monospace"
[23:22] <sisterFister> DejaVuSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu Sans Mono" "Book"
[23:22] <wxl> hm my spacing looks good. course i use adobe's (open source) source code pro