[08:01] <hischild> FAJALOU, dont apologize, :P
[08:01] <onthefence928> Fajalou: yeha i see those everywhere, but i'm personally sick of seeing windows and mac clones
[08:01] <onthefence928> gnea: good idea thnx
[08:01] <ompaul> FAJALOU, do one check it if fail do other if fail do both
[08:01] <FAJALOU> fail?? as in doesn't boot up?
[08:02] <hischild> fail as in no succes :)
[08:02] <tyler> hey guys im trying to get my wireless working on my new lenovo laptop
[08:02] <ompaul> FAJALOU, please just do it reboot and find out if it solves your problems
[08:02] <tyler> lenovo x200
[08:02] <FAJALOU> this is the problem:  it doesn't always fail... it's an old computer and so i think it hiccups, and so sometimes it locks up, sometimes it doesnt... should i just disable both and call it good
[08:02] <Malwir> Anyone else from Sacramento here know if there is a local linux group?
[08:03] <FAJALOU> !wifi | tyler
[08:03] <darek> hello
[08:03] <Gnea> Malwir: http://www.saclug.org/
[08:03] <FAJALOU> !hello | darek
[08:04] <darek> fajalou
[08:04] <johnt> so is it possible to install XP after ubuntu and make it duel bootable?
[08:04] <darek> im poland and you
[08:04] <FAJALOU> johnt:  super grub disk!! it works i swear  :)
[08:04] <cheesemold> johnt: if you make an extra partition for it, couldn't it..? Oh wait.. booting.
[08:05] <darek> i don't now
[08:05] <eric> d
[08:05] <FAJALOU> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[08:06] <eric> d
[08:06] <csa3d> if I have a usb drive which may not always be present, do i *want* to add it's entry into fstab?
[08:06] <FAJALOU> csa3d: i would think not, it mounts it self right?
[08:06] <johnt> fajalou: so i can use SGD to seting duelbooting with XP and ubuntu?
[08:06] <darek> jest tu jakis polak
[08:06] <hischild> csa3d, you might want to add it's UUID in there.
[08:06] <csa3d> yeah, but i'd like to label it so the mount point is consistant
[08:06] <csa3d> it for whatever reason, changed paths on me
[08:07] <Flannel> !pl | darek
[08:07] <darek> see later
[08:07] <hischild> csa3d, added the UUID in /etc/fstab?
[08:07] <compu73rg33k> bleh i always forget partition schemes - I have 2 partitions already on my disk - I want to make an addition of 4 (/, /usr/, /home, /swap) - I'm using cfdisk - do I make my fourth ( which will be /usr) logical? how do I get around this 4 primary-partition limit again?
[08:07] <csa3d> hischild:  what prints out the UUID?  (no, it's not currently added there)
[08:07] <hischild> csa3d, sudo blkid
[08:07] <FAJALOU> johnt: ya,  it's really easy to use too.  don't get discouraged if it doesn't work first time; you prolly just went through the help thing and didn't actually recover anything :)  .  Yes it restores grub, or MBR, whichever you like, i would go with grub
[08:07] <FAJALOU> what is the difference between apci and apic?
[08:07] <Guest98776> Any one can tell me how to change the permission of the "Window$" partion?
[08:08] <_ba> can someone help me out there with a santity check i'm trying to firewall my box but when i am applying rules to incoming traffic i loose connectitivy out does this make any sense?
[08:08] <johnt> fajalou thanks
[08:08] <FAJALOU> johnt np.
[08:08] <csa3d> +2 for hischild
[08:08] <johnt> also the bug with audio when using firefox and playing audio, is there a fix for that?
[08:08] <FAJALOU> Guest98776: sudo chmod <permission number> <windows partition>
[08:09] <Xjkx> how about a multifuntional laser printer that works on linux ?
[08:09] <FAJALOU> !permissions | Guest98776
[08:09] <dvcsdv> يصثي
[08:09] <Flannel> Xjkx: any HP printer should work fine
[08:09] <FAJALOU> !arabic | dvcsdv
[08:09] <Guest98776> Yeah, I use this command, however there is no effect
[08:09] <csa3d> hischild:  so if I don't have the usb drive connected, and have a UUID entry, all will bootup fine?
[08:09] <FAJALOU> Guest98776: what is the command you are putting in?
[08:09] <Gnea> wow, that just messed with my terminal
[08:09] <hischild> csa3d, yep
[08:10] <hischild> Gnea, fun isn't it ..
[08:10] <FAJALOU> what is the difference between apci and apic?
[08:10] <asd_> hi
[08:10] <FAJALOU> !hi | asd_
[08:10] <Gnea> hischild: screen+irssi has its moments ;)
[08:10] <asd_> بالعربي مرحبا
[08:10] <Flannel> Gnea: make sure you're using unicode, you shouldn't have those issues.
[08:10] <Guest98776> sudo chmod XXX <partition>
[08:10] <FAJALOU> !arabic | dvcsdv
[08:10] <hischild> Gnea, i know all about it ... though it does have its amazing uses.
[08:11] <FAJALOU> Guest98776:  what are the numbers you are putting in?
[08:11] <Flannel> hischild: you too.  unicode works fine with screen and irssi
[08:11] <csa3d> while i'm on a terminal role, can one configure control+v to paste clipboard to the terminal?  If so, what do I need to investigate?
[08:11] <gatestone> Why is my Firefox search box not working? Hitting enter or clicking the icon does nothing....?
[08:11] <kindboy> dsf
[08:11] <Guest98776> 777
[08:11] <kindboy> zCz
[08:11] <Gnea> hischild: yeah, and if he doesn't cut it out...
[08:11] <FAJALOU> Flannel:  do you know the difference between apci and apic...?
[08:11] <hischild> Flannel, ill see where to set it.
[08:11] <hischild> Gnea, cut it out?
[08:11] <pajamian> csa3d: ctrl-shift-v works
[08:11] <FAJALOU> Guest98776:  why do you think it is a permissions issue?
[08:11] <Guest98776> I use the 777 for the <windows partition>
[08:11] <csa3d> ah.  shift..
[08:12] <FAJALOU> what is the difference between apci and apic?
[08:12] <Guest98776> well, can you tell me what the issue is?
[08:12] <FAJALOU> PM?
[08:12] <Flannel> FAJALOU: ACPI is a power thing (sleep modes, etc).  APIC is an interrupt thing.  And you don't need to repeat the question so often.  We all saw it... all six times.
[08:13] <hischild> FAJALOU, http://www.driverheaven.net/motherboards-networking-misc-forum/2502-apic-mode-what.html 7th post
[08:13] <kindboy> fdsfds
[08:13] <FAJALOU> Flannel: i am sorry, ompaul was talking about turning one of them off, my computer was randomly freezing up,,, which one should i turn off...?
[08:13] <DooMRunneR> morning
[08:13] <Flannel> FAJALOU: Ah, they both can cause issues.  Try one, then the other, then both :)
[08:13] <Flannel> kindboy: please stop that
[08:14] <gatestone> Hey, actually my back and forward arrows are also disabled, grey in FF!
[08:14] <FAJALOU> Flannel:  the problem is that sometimes it works, then sometimes it will freeze up -.-
[08:14] <Malwir> fareast1337
[08:15] <Bantard> wow.
[08:15] <Bantard> toomany people.
[08:15] <kindboy> hello
[08:16] <Gnea> there's never too many people.
[08:16] <kindboy> ineed someon speek to me
[08:16] <egc> need or want
[08:16] <Flannel> !ask | kindboy
[08:16] <Gnea> kindboy: what's the problem?
[08:16] <kindboy> want
[08:16] <Malwir> candell, just restart the x server. You can paste it in the above url, or mail me your xorg.conf at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:16] <mib_xom11s5j> wich ubuntu? compile gcc 2.95.3
[08:17] <tyler> can someone help me get my wireless internet going...in terminal it shows this Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[08:17] <tyler>         Subsystem: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device 0035
[08:17] <tyler>         Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 17
[08:17] <tyler>         Memory at f2500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64K]
[08:17] <tyler>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[08:17] <FloodBot3> tyler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <error404notfound> if I want to use UserDir for Apache, I will have to eidt apache2.conf and 000-default in /etc/apache2/ and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled for UserDir Module and Access rights to the dir respectively?
[08:17] <Flannel> error404notfound: No.
[08:17] <kindboy> where are you
[08:17] <csa3d> what needs to happen in order to "reload" a changed fstab?
[08:17] <hischild> Malwir, the channel is publicly logged. Putting an email in here isn't advised.
[08:17] <Xjkx> Flannel why any hp should work
[08:17] <error404notfound> Flannel: then?
[08:17] <Malwir> hischild, sorry, my bad
[08:17] <Flannel> Xjkx: because HP has done a wonderful job of providing drivers
[08:17] <benzss> Gnea: do you know if vlc have an equivalent of 'framedrop'?
[08:17] <benzss> s/have/has
[08:17] <Vialas> hello
[08:17] <hischild> Malwir, no need to say sorry, it's an advice :)
[08:18] <Flannel> error404notfound: sudo a2enmod userdir (it should already be enabled) and then put stuff in ~/public_html and make sure its readable by www-data
[08:18] <Gnea> benzss: you can muck around with the video output settings in the preferences
[08:18] <mib_xom11s5j> wich ubuntu? compile gcc 2.95.3
[08:18] <mib_xom11s5j> wich ubuntu? compile gcc 2.95.3
[08:18] <Gnea> benzss: usually the advanced section has the fun stuff :)
[08:18] <mib_xom11s5j> wich ubuntu? compile gcc 2.95.3
[08:19] <mib_xom11s5j> wich ubuntu? compile gcc 2.95.3
[08:19] <Flannel> !repeat | mib_xom11s5j
[08:19] <benzss> Gnea: ok time to fiddle
[08:19] <error404notfound> Flannel: then I will have to run a2enmod userdir at every bootup? plus what not define a <directory> instead of giving permissions?
[08:19] <csa3d> hischild:  do I need to reboot to refresh changes made to fstab or is there a shortcut to do so
[08:19] <hischild> csa3d, sudo mount -a
[08:20] <Flannel> error404notfound: No.  Once you do it once, the module is enabled.  What are you asking with the second part?
[08:20] <Flannel> error404notfound: actually, after you a2enmod, you'll have to restart apache too.
[08:21] <error404notfound> Flannel: suppose if there are 10 users, I will have to give permission to www-data on every users dir by chmoding /home/*, why not define a <Directory> directive and allow access by all...
[08:21] <hischild> csa3d, make sure the directory you want it to mount to exists
[08:21] <gatestone> Skype says to me "another instance may be running" and logs out....?
[08:21] <egc> \X/
[08:22] <Flannel> error404notfound: Uh, Directories won't be able to do that.  There is a directory defined, see /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf, but if the files aren't readable by the apache user, they won't be readable.
[08:22] <Flannel> error404notfound: not /home/* but /home/*/public_html/
[08:22] <asd_> ابي اسوي شاي ماعندكم سكر
[08:22] <error404notfound> Flannel: oopss, yup that one...
[08:22] <kindofabuzz> !intrepid
[08:22] <nat1> how do i get a playstation 2 emulator?
[08:22] <error404notfound> Flannel: okay, thanks, I will try that
[08:23] <error404notfound> nat get NSX2 ts in Add/Remove I guess
[08:23] <ifireball> Flannel, error404notfound : you do need to make /home/* as least readble and executable by apache
[08:23] <nat1> thanks
[08:23] <Flannel> ifireball: The directories need to be executable, because theyre directories  And yes, thats what I said.  www-data
[08:23] <asd_> hi
[08:23] <error404notfound> ifireball: and that chmod stuff, not <Directory>, is it?
[08:24] <Flannel> Hi asd_, how can we help you?
[08:24] <ifireball> Flannel: you said that about /home/*/public_html not about /home/*
[08:24] <asd_> thanks
[08:24] <nat1> error404notfound its not there do u have the deb
[08:24] <Flannel> ifireball: /home/* is +X by default
[08:24] <ifireball> error404notfound: right
[08:25] <error404notfound> nat1: sorry, cleared my archive cache, still let me check
[08:25] <csa3d> hischild:  How do I remove the old named entry from /media/old_mount
[08:25] <hischild> csa3d, sudo umount /media/old_mount
[08:25] <error404notfound> nat1: http://www.getdeb.net/app/PCSX2
[08:26] <csa3d> argh!  forgot the sudo
[08:26] <csa3d> duh
[08:26] <csa3d> ;)
[08:26] <ifireball> Flannel: not so sure about that, but in my case it may be a relic of the system's previous incarnations
[08:26] <nat1> thanks man
[08:27] <kim0> Hi guys, I wanna compile some code. I have a minimal install. How do I instal "All development tools" ?
[08:27] <hischild> kim0, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:27] <pajamian> kim0: what do you want to compile?
[08:27] <ifireball> kim0: install build-essential
[08:28] <kim0> kernel modules and userspace code
[08:28] <kim0> thanks
[08:28] <Gnea> !compile | kim0
[08:29] <mib_xom11s5j> wich ubuntu? compile gcc 2.95.3
[08:29] <pajamian> yeah, kim0 build-essential is usually all you need.
[08:29] <csa3d> hischild:  I have a directory (which *used* to be the old mount) listed in /media/old_mount, and when i run sudo umount /media/old_mount is says it's not mounted
[08:30] <co_cool_abizzz> Hi guys, Can you help me, I wanna update my kernel
[08:30] <trojatra> I use Cairo-Dock and everytime I move my mouse away from it (auto-hide or not), anyone else experience this problem or know a fix for it?
[08:30] <co_cool_abizzz> can you help me ????
[08:30] <hischild> csa3d, ok a bit back. Is it still mounted? Run mount and check for it. If it is, you can umount it.
[08:30] <asd_> ءءء
[08:31] <pajamian> co_cool_abizzz: update from what to what?
[08:31] <co_cool_abizzz> from gutsy to intepid
[08:32] <co_cool_abizzz> kernel only
[08:32] <hischild> co_cool_abizzz, #ubuntu+1 for that
[08:33] <kim0> Thanks everyoen
[08:33] <kim0> everyone*
[08:34] <co_cool_abizzz> thanks for the help, buddy
[08:35] <bazhang> co_cool_abizzz, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid support
[08:36] <csa3d> hischild:  I see no "/media/old_mount" paths when performing a "sudo mount"
[08:36] <nat1> do windows plugins for psx2 work in linux?
[08:36] <hischild> csa3d, and is the folder empty? then you can remvoe it
[08:37] <Richi_> hi
[08:37] <Richi_> hi leute
[08:37] <pajamian> !hi | Richi_
[08:37] <Richi_> i like it
[08:37] <trojatra> everytime I move my mouse away from it (auto-hide or not) the app closes and I have to start it again
[08:37] <csa3d> hischild:  it's got a bunch of empty folder
[08:37] <Richi_> who can speak german
[08:38] <pajamian> !de | Richi_
[08:38] <Richi_> nobody
[08:38] <hischild> !de | Richi_
[08:38] <Richi_> hi
[08:38] <Richi_> can u play games
[08:38] <Richi_> here
[08:39] <bazhang> Richi_, windows games via wine
[08:39] <bazhang> !wine | Richi_
[08:39] <Richi_> hi
[08:39] <Richi_> how old are u
[08:39] <jpds> !ot | Richi_
[08:39] <bazhang> Richi_, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:39] <Richi_> welcome
[08:40] <lakikikialiao> hi friends
[08:40] <lakikikialiao> would you like to help me ???
[08:40] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, #ubuntu+1 for that
[08:41] <lakikikialiao> I want play spider solitaire in ubuntu
[08:41] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, via native linux or windows
[08:41] <lakikikialiao> native windows, bazhang
[08:42] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, the use wine
[08:42] <bazhang> !wine | lakikikialiao
[08:42] <lakikikialiao> yes
[08:42] <lakikikialiao> but I have tried it
[08:42] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, more info at appdb and #winehq
[08:42] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, he is wrong, you should use virtualbox
[08:43] <lakikikialiao> Virtual box ???
[08:43] <Janus`> so.. is there some niffy config program to edit the xorg.conf to change the resolution of xorg...
[08:43] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, yeah, it has 100percent compatibility with windows.... it makes a box that you can install windows into
[08:43] <Jordan_U> lakikikialiao: Have you tried the package "spider" from synaptic?
[08:43] <Janus`> or should i go in and set up the entire xorg.conf manually so i can use my entire screen :/
[08:43] <csa3d> hischild:  thanks for a ton of help!  So now it mounts, has the proper name, etc.  When I right click and eject it, it tells me I do not have permissions to do so.  what option am I missing in fstab or is it a chmod or chown thing on the media directory?
[08:44] <lakikikialiao> Jordan_U, No, I don't have
[08:44] <bazhang> !find spider
[08:44] <lakikikialiao> Is It same like Spider Solitaire ???
[08:44] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. How do I install a game that actually consists of two .deb files? I am assuming they depend on each other... so is there a way to install them both?
[08:44] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, see, here is a picture of virtualbox: http://www.souslestoits.net/blog/public/billets/virtualbox.jpg
[08:44] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, which game
[08:44] <hischild> csa3d, instead of defaults or what is you've written, do user. So you get something like UUID="bladiebla" /media/something ext3 user 0 0
[08:44] <hischild> loquitus_of_borg, one will depend on the other, the other not on the one. Try and see
[08:45] <loquitus_of_borg> bazhang: I am grabbing alot of them off the getubuntu website... most have two files.
[08:45] <bazhang> loquitus_of_borg, aha; need a name of game to actually help there.
[08:46] <Jordan_U> lakikikialiao: You can install it via System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager or with this command: "sudo apt-get install spider" It's not the windows version but I assume it's the same rules
[08:46] <snakezx> anyone got wifi working in ubuntu
[08:46] <br10ta10> I just installed Ubuntu on my toshiba portege (thanks guys for the help). One question, I only get 800x600 and less for screen resolution options. Where do I go to get the full potential of the display? Install a new driver?
[08:46] <bazhang> snakezx, which chipset
[08:47] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, no, install the package "pysol", it has the right game in it
[08:47] <hischild> csa3d, it's time for a break over here. See you in 20 min
[08:47] <Jordan_U> snakezx: I would guess that most here do, just ask your question
[08:47] <AlfadorJanus> so..yah, how do i go about changing the resolution in ubuntu. I've only done it in gentoo where you edit the xorg.conf file... but won't to know if there is an easy perfered ubuntu way of doing things
[08:48] <Malwir> AlfadorJanus, look in the menus, like Preferences>>Screen Resolution
[08:48] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, why not install them both
[08:48] <Jordan_U> AlfadorJanus: If you don't have full res in Ubuntu you most likely just need to install the right driver
[08:49] <AlfadorJanus> Jordan_U, where do i go to do that
[08:49] <br10ta10> Jordan_U: where does one find drivers?
[08:49] <AlfadorJanus> ubuntu is all.. watered down and i get lost and make it more complicated than it is :(
[08:49] <rj> hello.. anybody used ircd here ?
[08:49] <Jordan_U> AlfadorJanus: What GFX card do you have?
[08:49] <AlfadorJanus> i believe its the intel 815 drivers
[08:50] <lakikikialiao> Yes bazhang I will try it
[08:50] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, if you install both like bazhang says then it will use up twice the memory
[08:50] <AlfadorJanus> its a intel laptop chipset
[08:50] <bazhang> Malwir, no it wont
[08:50] <rj> pls let me know if anybody here know hoe to connect to ircd server chat
[08:50] <Malwir> bazhang, yes it will if he plays both at the same time
[08:50] <Jordan_U> AlfadorJanus: Then you already have the drivers and it does probably need an xorg.conf modification if System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution doesn't do it
[08:51] <lakikikialiao> yes Malwir, Virtual Box is same with VMware, right ?
[08:51] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, sudo apt-get install spider pysol
[08:51] <lakikikialiao> Allright
[08:51] <AlfadorJanus> Jordan_U, i'm not sure if they are actually being loaded.. i just know thats the ones it uses
[08:51] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, yes, but virtualbox is somewhat easier to get working, since it is all open source, you just install the ubuntu package
[08:51] <DIFH-iceroot> is it possible to upgrade from ubuntu 6.06 lts to 8.04 lts without! a kernel-update?
[08:51] <AlfadorJanus> from when i used gentoo on the system back when
[08:51] <jetscreamer> kpat & kmajhong
[08:51] <AlfadorJanus> and did all the configs manually cause... there isn't any other way
[08:51] <rj> users
[08:51] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, you could use vbox or other but seems a lot of effort for just that game :)
[08:52] <rj> #users
[08:52] <bazhang> DIFH-iceroot, why would you want that
[08:52] <AlfadorJanus> and there is no system->preferences
[08:52] <pajamian> DIFH-iceroot: I don't think so, why would you want to keep the old kernel?
[08:52] <Malwir> bazhang, virtualbox uses a bit of memory, but you were saying to install TWO games, which also takes up a lot of space too
[08:52] <lakikikialiao> Yes, I think so, Malwir
[08:52] <DIFH-iceroot> bazhang: because its a vm, and the kernel is giving from the vm-host
[08:52] <DIFH-iceroot> so i cant update the kernel
[08:53] <lakikikialiao> Thanks for your help, bazhang
[08:53] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, np ")
[08:53] <lakikikialiao> Thankz friend for your help
[08:53] <Jordan_U> AlfadorJanus: There isn't really any other ( good ) way in Ubuntu, just check that your xorg.conf is using the "intel" driver ( i810 is old, it's not a difference between gentoo and Ubuntu but just a change of time ) and the correct resolution is manually added if it's not detected automagically
[08:53] <bazhang> DIFH-iceroot, which is the guest and which is the host?
[08:53] <lakikikialiao> I just move from Windows to Ubuntu
[08:53] <bazhang> !yay | lakikikialiao
[08:54] <Malwir> !ot bazhang
[08:54] <Malwir> hah
[08:54] <bazhang> Malwir, you need the |
[08:54] <Malwir> I know
[08:54] <DIFH-iceroot> bazhang: xen, using ubuntu server edition as host and ubuntu server edition as guest, and the kernel is ginving from xen, so i cant update the kernel
[08:54] <AlfadorJanus> Jordan_U, found where its hiding
[08:54] <bazhang> Malwir, or >
[08:54] <lakikikialiao> Thankz, And I think Ubuntu is the great OS !!!
[08:54] <AlfadorJanus> the only problem now is.. the slider doesn't go past 1024x768
[08:54] <lakikikialiao> bravo Ubuntu
[08:55] <Malwir> !ot | lakikikialiao
[08:55]  * pajamian prefers | over >
[08:55] <Theaxiom> lakikikialiao: I whole-heartedly agree
[08:55] <Theaxiom> hurrah!
[08:55] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, come chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:55] <Malwir> !ot | l Theaxiom
[08:55] <AlfadorJanus> Jordan_U, ahh, gotta add the montior. This is so... not complicated config file editing. ^_^
[08:55] <rj> join #1
[08:55] <Malwir> so many off topic tonight
[08:55] <bazhang> Malwir, easy on the !ot
[08:55] <rj> \join #1
[08:55] <lakikikialiao> Of course
[08:55] <Theaxiom> I'm sorry I won't say how much I love Ubuntu in the future, and how wonderful it is. I apologize.
[08:56] <Boss_> IT"S GREAT
[08:56] <rj> anybody has some prior experience chatting on IRCD ??
[08:57] <favro> rj: /j #1
[08:57] <rj> @favro .. whats the commdn you have given ?
[08:57] <pajamian> rj: it's the command you were trying to type
[08:57] <favro> rj: you want to join #1?
[08:58] <rj> yes
[08:58] <MaxHR> Hello, anybody here use toonel proxy?  am trying to find out more of its rep and origins
[08:58] <rj> i have a server program running on ircd.. but can't connect it from here ??? :(
[08:59] <rj> NODE ID: 1 BIND PORT: 20102
[08:59] <pajamian> rj: a bot?
[09:00] <rj> not a bot, but a infinite accepting looping sever
[09:00] <rj> *server
[09:00] <pajamian> rj you're trying to run an ircd server?
[09:00] <csa3d> what needs to happen to make right clicking an external drive on my desktop, eject w/o giving me permissions errors?
[09:00] <rj> right
[09:00] <gaurav__> is dere any way that one can put shortcut of any folder on desktop for permanent  like in windos
[09:01] <bazhang> csa3d, what about choosing safely remove
[09:01] <pajamian> rj: you should probably learn more about IRC before attempting to run a server.  I would say understanding how to use the join command at the very least.
[09:01] <csa3d> there's no options for saftely remoe
[09:02] <rj> have done much study on it, but can't make it connect it from other existing clients like this one.
[09:03] <koshari> how do i list files inclufding those in subdirs? ld -r only lists recersive directorys?
[09:03] <Rakeer> How do I boot a live cd from a bootloader pompt?
[09:03] <Rakeer> koshari: try R vs r?
[09:03] <Rakeer> capital R?
[09:03] <rj> hello favro
[09:04] <favro> hi
[09:04] <koshari> thanks, capital R doest it,
[09:04] <nomopofomo> had a question about building binutils, is anyone familiar with it?
[09:04] <gaurav__> is dere any way toh creat shorcuts
[09:04] <Rakeer> hey favro, do you know how to start an xubuntu live installer once already in a bootloader?
[09:04] <pajamian> koshari: and it's ls, not ld
[09:05] <koshari> pajamian thnx that was a typo
[09:05] <rj> hey favro.. i saw u came into #1 for a minute.. but could u sent any msgs there ?
[09:05] <Malwir> gaurav_, no ubuntu doesn't have any shortcuts. The closest thing is probably links
[09:05] <favro> Rakeer: I  don't use bootloaders
[09:05] <koshari> pajamian havnt used ld since the vic20 days ;-)
[09:05] <pajamian> koshari: ;-)
[09:05] <gaurav__> okh thank you
[09:05] <favro> rj: didn't try - i'll have a go
[09:06] <rj> no, u came in .. isaw ur name there in #1
[09:06] <Rakeer> er..
[09:06] <Rakeer> how do you not use a boot loader?
[09:06] <Rakeer> you dont use grub or anything?
[09:06] <favro> rj: nope
[09:06] <stdin> Rakeer: you can't you need to boot from the CD directly
[09:06] <rj> now i see u joined.. but u r not able to send msgs , is it ?>
[09:07] <Rakeer> stdin: would it be too hard to change to bootloader thats on the CD with a different one?
[09:07] <koshari> thats what i wanted ls -R > songs.txt
[09:07] <hischild> csa3d, How's themounting going?
[09:07] <Rakeer> I mean, it laucnhes the bootloader, at some point it inits a string to launch the livecd, right??
[09:07] <favro> rj: "cannot send to channel" is what happened
[09:07] <pajamian> koshari: you might want to put a -1 in there too
[09:08] <csa3d> hischild:  I do not have priveleges to unmount my usbdrive, and the old mount directory listing is still present though unconnected
[09:08] <rj> okay, thanks man.. atleast JOINING works..
[09:08] <koshari> gaurav launchers?
[09:08] <favro> hehe
[09:08] <koshari> pajamian what will the -1 do?
[09:08] <hischild> csa3d, hmm... with user added to the options?
[09:08] <stdin> Rakeer: the bootloader on the CD loads the kernel and filesystem image, similar to grub. but CDs use a specific boot loader
[09:08] <pajamian> koshari: one file per line
[09:09] <csa3d> # Entry for IPOD:
[09:09] <csa3d> UUID=FA26-8080 /media/ipod vfat user,auto,umask=000 0 0
[09:09] <koshari> pajamian ok thanks, allthough it outputted one file per line anyway.
[09:09] <hischild> csa3d, why the umask?
[09:09] <Malwir> stdin, "a specific bootloader"? you just said it doesn't use a bootloader
[09:09] <acuster> so how do we get xhost to work on ubuntu?
[09:09] <rj> @favro: once again pls join #1..
[09:09] <stdin> Malwir: no, I didn't, at all
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:09] <acuster> security is great and all but X was developed to kick ass; we shouldn't cripple X in this way
[09:09] <csa3d> hischild: cuz i copied and pasted it from some ipod thread :/
[09:10] <pajamian> koshari: oh it does too, ls hasn't always for me
[09:10] <favro> rj: same again
[09:10] <Malwir> "<stdin> Rakeer: you can't you need to boot from the CD directly"
[09:10] <acuster> I've gone and edited files around the system and still X gets launched with --no-listen
[09:10] <acuster>  /rant
[09:10] <stdin> Malwir: and, in what part of that sentence does it say: "CDs don't have a bootloader"
[09:11] <hischild> csa3d, hmm well try it with the least amount of options that should work ... and did you check the UUID?
[09:11] <Malwir> stdin in the part that says "you can't"
[09:11] <the_gamer> in which package is xls2csv?
[09:11] <Malwir> first part of the sentence
[09:11] <bazhang> Malwir, please take chat elsewhere
[09:11] <stdin> Malwir: you can't boot it from grub, read the question
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> the_gamer: i believe thats a packae
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> !info xls2csv
[09:11] <the_gamer> ActionParsnip: but i can't find it?
[09:11] <Malwir> sorry bazhang for talking with stdin, clearly I am in the wrong
[09:12] <bazhang> Malwir, we have a nice chat room: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> the_gamer: its catdoc
[09:13] <Malwir> bazhang, good idea. stdin started it, but if it happens again, I will definately go to that channel instead of this one
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> the_gamer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/text/catdoc
[09:13] <the_gamer> ActionParsnip: ty
[09:14] <csa3d> hischild:  removing the umask changed nothing, the UUID of the properly renamed ipod connection is correct, the old directory is filled with bogus directories, unconnected, and just needs deleted I'm assuming
[09:14] <nat1> is thre a way to un rar stuff in linux
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> nat1: unrar x ./rarfile.rar
[09:14] <pajamian> !info unrar | nat1
[09:15] <Malwir> nat1, in case you didn't see the 3 people above say it, use the command "unrar"
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> nat1: or if you install unrar then ark can handle them
[09:16] <csa3d> silly question:  I have two user accounts on my machine, one being root, the other being "owner".  Is there any reason I need to be adding "owner" to the root policy in the system tools?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: you dont neer the root account, add your owner account to the sudo group and you can admin using that
[09:18] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, why I can't write my MP3 player with ubuntu ???
[09:18] <hischild> csa3d, hmm ... can you pm me the info of what mount gives you?
[09:18] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, I can write my MP3 player very well with windows
[09:19] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, what mp3 player is it?
[09:19] <csa3d> ActionParsnip:  are their security ramifications of enabling sudo on the onwer account?  What's different between that and  using sudo
[09:19] <lakikikialiao> It is MP3 player from Alltronix
[09:20] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, which mp3 player
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: none at all, when you sudo you will need your password to authorise the action. running apps as root is a security risk
[09:20] <bazhang> ie exact name and model lakikikialiao
[09:20] <nat1> thanks guys
[09:20] <lakikikialiao> sorry ????
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: sudo allows you to have root access for the life of the command
[09:21] <csa3d> ActionParsnip: but if I give "owner" access to "sudo" privleges, you do away with having to type sudo all the time?
[09:21] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, Sorry I don't know
[09:21] <bazhang> csa3d, best not to override sudo
[09:22] <hischild> csa3d, hmm not sure, it doesn't show in mount so it shouldn't be there anymore. Reboot if needed to make sure it's gone.
[09:22] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, unless your mp3 player is really popular or else it uses a standard USB mass stroage driver, then there is probably no chance you will get the mp3 player to work on ubuntu ever in your life
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: no, you type sudo every time you need root priveledges
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: you therefore have no need for root
[09:23] <domas> Malwir: he can learn to write drivers!
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: as I say....root is moot :D
[09:23] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, try plugging it in then type lsusb in the terminal
[09:23] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, I try write with sudo privledges but it still not work
[09:23] <bazhang> domas, that is hardly likely as he is new.
[09:23] <geev> how do i clean unwanted files on ubuntu as in windows
[09:23] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, can you see what is on it in ubuntu??
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> geev: you mean lisk disk cleanup?
[09:24] <domas> bazhang: "in your life" :)
[09:24] <csa3d> ActionParsnip:  well, it is saying that deleting an administrative account would leave the system unstable.. which is why i left windows in the first place
[09:24] <domas> bazhang: thats a long term
[09:24] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, It says "read-only filesystem"
[09:24] <csa3d> ;)
[09:24] <fmike> hello
[09:24] <bazhang> domas, right, but he want music now :)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: oh no, root will always be there, you just dont need to actually use the account
[09:25] <firmabos20034> All greetings. There is here a lucid mind what to help me?
[09:25] <firmabos20034> At me a problem at loading with life CD writes here such errors: SQUASHFS error:
[09:25] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, but are you saying you can see the files in the mp3 player, in the file manager?
[09:25] <csa3d> ActionParsnip:  There doesn't seem to be a "sudo" group in the user manage groups section
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> csa3d: might be sudoers
[09:25] <bazhang> firmabos20034, md5 the iso and reburn at low speed
[09:25] <bazhang> !md5 | firmabos20034
[09:25] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, Yes I can
 i dont know what is that cos i am newbie to linux how to remove cookies offline empting trash as in window
[09:26] <csa3d> ActionParsnip:  seems like i have admin and root as viable options
[09:26] <bullgard4> [GNOME, ssh] Places > Connect to Server > Service type: SSH, Server: <IP_ADDRESS>, Bookmark name: MD97600, Add bookmark asserted. This made appear on this Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer in the 'Places' menu an entry  'sftp on <IP_ADDRESS>'. Is this entry the 'Bookmark' of the 'Connect to Server' dialog?
[09:26] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, but I can't write some files
[09:26] <firmabos20034> Thanks
[09:26] <Malwir> lakikikialiao, to get a sudo file manager, go to a terminal and type "sudo nautilus"
[09:26] <bazhang> !gksudo | lakikikialiao
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Malwir: gksu nautilus dude
[09:27] <bazhang> lakikikialiao, use gksudo and not sudo with gui apps
[09:27] <domas> bazhang: thats a good motivator! :)
[09:27] <nomopofomo> has anyone here ever compiled binutils?
[09:27] <Malwir> what is this madness you say
[09:27] <csa3d> brb, reboot time
[09:27] <domas> nomopofomo: in one way or another
[09:27] <fmike> I have a giant problem with the "LiveCD" Installer
[09:27] <lakikikialiao> Malwir, But I have tried it and not succes
[09:27] <bazhang> Malwir, gksudo for gui apps
[09:27] <fmike> I would appreciate it if someone could help me specifically
[09:27] <fmike> I know that's not how this room usually works
[09:28] <nomopofomo> domas, i just ran make and it's looping the same screen over and over again... is that normal? how long does it take?
[09:28] <bazhang> fmike, did you md5 the iso, burn slowly and then do disk integrity check
[09:28] <Malwir> bazhang, take it to off topic please
[09:28] <fmike> yea i did all of that
[09:28] <fmike> i md5ed and did the integrity check
[09:28] <bazhang> fmike, then what is the issue
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Malwir: sudo does not set up environment variables for gui apps like nautilus, gksu does, this can effectively break ownerships and file permissions, sudo is for CLI only, gksu for GUI
[09:28] <fmike> heybazhang i'm going to msg you
[09:28] <bazhang> fmike, sure
[09:29] <fair> hi
[09:29] <domas> nomopofomo: how do you build? did you try 'apt-get source binutils' and debuilding?
[09:30] <fair> yvonne how are u?
[09:30] <bazhang> Malwir, that is not offtopic.
[09:30] <nomopofomo> domas, sorry, this isn't actually ubuntu related but i thought i'd try anyways... have you ever heard of linux from scratch?
[09:31] <immy123> hi guys
[09:31] <immy123> i just want some help
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> hi immy123
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> immy123: sup?
[09:31] <domas> nomopofomo: ghmmm... I've been using linux since '95 or so...
[09:31] <immy123> my printer is not working
[09:31] <immy123> try to fix using a i386 file
[09:31] <immy123> but didn't work
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> immy123: are you on 64bit linux?
[09:32] <immy123> the terminal says that my system architecture is 64bit
[09:32] <immy123> so probs
[09:32] <immy123> ActionParsnip:yes
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> immy123: what are you trying to install?
[09:32] <gaurav__> !printer immy123
[09:32] <geev> hey i hav a problem here i can ping and i can chat using IRC but i cannot open different pages othrough firefox it stated to behave like this one hour ago any help please
[09:32] <immy123> the driver for canon ip1300
[09:32] <nomopofomo> domas, well then maybe you have. anyways, i ran make for binutils after following the proper steps (up to this point http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/binutils-pass1.html ) and now the screen is looping... i'm unsure if that's normal or abnormal
[09:32] <domas> looping?
[09:33] <rampageoberon> geev: does http://<IP_ADDRESS> show anything
[09:33] <immy123> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563627
[09:33] <immy123> read that thread
[09:33] <immy123> did exactly what it had told to
[09:33] <immy123> but didn't work
[09:33] <AlfadorJanus> '
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> immy123: you following this?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> immy123: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563627
[09:34] <AlfadorJanus> anyone have experience using the intel 915 drivers and getting the correct resolution to display?
[09:34] <immy123>  ActionParsnip: yes
[09:34] <AlfadorJanus> cause i've tried using 915resolution and whatnot.. i cannot get it to do anything other than 1024x786
[09:34] <Ayabara> any emacs-users here? I need advice on a font that looks nice in Ubuntu
[09:34] <immy123>  ActionParsnip:it's for 32 bit i suppose
[09:34] <Malwir> ActionParsnip, actually "sudo" enhances gui applications with extra power
[09:35] <immy123> but still had a go. no luck.
[09:35] <skeel> hey, I used to mdadm to assemble an existing raid0 array (4 disks)... problem is, now that I restarted it, the drives that make up md0 (/dev/hde1, /dev/hdh1 and so on) are now named /dev/hde, /dev/hdh... does this mean that the partitions are gone?
[09:35] <skeel> fdisk -l /dev/hde returns hde1 as partition name
 it say waitng for ipaddre.... at the end nothing is displayed
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Malwir: yes, it gives them root privs but the environment is incorrect so permissions and ownership get broken
[09:36] <locke> anyone willing to give me a rating 1-10 if i give the url of a pic of this chick thats staying with me tomorrow?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Malwir: gksu sets them up properly so the file isnt damaged
[09:36] <bazhang> locke, not here
 but my ping status is still ok
[09:36] <locke> meh yeah ok
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> immy123: you need some 32bit libs, then use dpkg -i --force-architecture ./debfile.deb
[09:36] <Malwir> ActionParsnip, no, they can handle the power of gksu, but sudo gives them SO MUCH extra power that they get a little unstable, I admit
[09:36] <immy123> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot :)
[09:36] <rampageoberon> geev: try open firefox in a new profile and test please
[09:36] <arquebus> I ran this: sudo apt-get install mysql php5 apache2    to install the LAMP apps and an error message says it cant find the mysql package. Whats wrong?
[09:36] <stealth-fone> skeel: You should have a boot partition, your swap partition, and then your budget RAID.
[09:37] <bazhang> Malwir, that is not correct
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> immy123: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:37] <locke> its at least proof that exclusive ubuntu users can still get with hot 18yo college chicks :)
[09:37] <stealth-fone> arquebus:  mysql-server?
[09:37] <skeel> hey, I used to mdadm to assemble an existing raid0 array (4 disks)... problem is, now that I restarted it, the drives that make up md0 (/dev/hde1, /dev/hdh1 and so on) are now named /dev/hde, /dev/hdh... does this mean that the partitions are gone? fdisk -l /dev/hde says the first partition is hde1 (which is correct), but it doesn't show up as /dev/hde1
[09:37] <locke> i've even got her using ubuntu now
[09:37] <immy123>  ActionParsnip:ok i'll try
[09:37] <arquebus> stealth-fone- I dont know, should I try that?
[09:37] <stealth-fone> andrew@theporkchopexpress:~$ apt-cache search mysql-server | grep mysql
[09:37] <stealth-fone> phpbb2-conf-mysql - Automatic configurator for phpbb2 on MySQL database
[09:37] <stealth-fone> mysql-server - MySQL database server (meta package depending on the latest version)
[09:37] <stealth-fone> mysql-server-5.0 - MySQL database server binaries
[09:37] <FloodBot3> stealth-fone: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <stealth-fone> lol
[09:38] <locke> sorry i'm done
[09:38] <Malwir> bazhang, and have you ever tried "sudo sudo nautilus"? It is even more powerful
[09:38] <immy123> ActionParsnip:i did it. now am i to do follow the normal procedure?
[09:38] <cruddpuppet> why is it that "ls -lah" returns only directories, and not files?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Malwir: how do you get more powerful than root?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Malwir: http://gavin2u.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/using-gksu-vs-sudo/
[09:38] <cruddpuppet> I know it returns files as well as I've used it many times before
[09:39] <stealth-fone> ls -lah works fine for me
[09:39] <Malwir> ActionParsnip, obviously, the only thing more powerful than root is root root
[09:39] <cruddpuppet> well I'm just assuming this system is ubuntu, I honestly don't know what it is
[09:39] <bazhang> Malwir, there is no such command
[09:39] <cruddpuppet> uname -a does not work
[09:39] <stealth-fone> what's the output of alias?
[09:39] <immy123> ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[09:39] <immy123> ia32-libs set to manually installed.
[09:39] <cruddpuppet> alias does not return anything
[09:39] <immy123> ActionParsnip: that's what the terminal said
[09:39] <stealth-fone> not even --color=auto?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> immy123: ok then you should be set. It may go a bit weird, you have been warned
[09:39] <Malwir> bazhang, it's hidden because it's so powerful
[09:40] <cruddpuppet> stealth-fone: nope
[09:40] <Malwir> bazhang, plus, stop making me go off topic
[09:40] <stdin> Malwir: try to keep on topic
[09:40] <immy123>  ActionParsnip: ok, then i can try it. :)
[09:40] <nat1> whats the short cut to system monitor
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> immy123: if all else fails, uninstall it
[09:40] <bullgard4> [GNOME, ssh] Places > Connect to Server > Service type: SSH, Server: <IP_ADDRESS>, Bookmark name: MD97600, Add bookmark asserted. This made appear on this Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer in the 'Places' menu an entry  'sftp on <IP_ADDRESS>'. Is this entry the 'Bookmark' of the 'Connect to Server' dialog?
[09:40] <stealth-fone> are there files in the directory you're running it in?
[09:40] <stealth-fone> lol
[09:40] <frith> how can i put ubuntu into a kiosk mode?
[09:40] <immy123>  ActionParsnip:sure.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: id let it go dude, ive never heard of it
[09:40] <stealth-fone> frith: Carefully.
[09:41] <cruddpuppet> stealth-fone: yes, I am sure
[09:41] <frith> stealth-fone, its just in the office, i don't really care who can do what
[09:41] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, :)
[09:41] <frith> i will just hit them with a stick
[09:41] <stealth-fone> cruddpuppet: What's the size of your ls binary?
[09:42] <cruddpuppet> How can I check?
[09:42] <stealth-fone> stat /bin/ls
[09:42] <stealth-fone> give me the modify time on it too
[09:42] <Illarane> I don't suppose anyone in here knows how I can unbreak libstdc++ so that the Tidy-based HTML Validator extension for Firefox works again?  It's kind of integral to my job. :D
[09:42] <cruddpuppet> do you mean /usr/bin?
[09:42] <stealth-fone> no
[09:42] <stealth-fone> I mean /bin/ls
[09:42] <stealth-fone> and if it's not there, that's odd.
[09:43] <cruddpuppet> Change: 2007-12-17 01:46:28.000000000 -0700
[09:43] <stealth-fone> it's not a user binary
[09:43] <cruddpuppet> no clue what that means
[09:43] <cruddpuppet> I don't have access to it?
[09:43] <stealth-fone> k, what's the size and what's the modify time?
[09:43] <cruddpuppet> that's the only thing it returns
[09:43] <stealth-fone> hmm
[09:43] <stealth-fone> odd
[09:44] <nat1> is there a c# editor for ubuntu?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> nat1: gedit / nano etc
[09:44] <stealth-fone> what's the output of 'file /bin/ls'?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> nat1: c# code is simply text
[09:44] <stealth-fone> heh
[09:44] <stealth-fone> emacs or jed!
[09:44] <cruddpuppet> /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[09:44]  * e-jat brb .. zzZZzz sleepy ..
[09:44] <stealth-fone> kk
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Illarane: tried reinstalling it
[09:45] <nat1> but is there anything close to windows visual studio?
[09:45] <hischild> nat1, you can try kdevelop
[09:45]  * e-jat back
[09:45] <bboston7> !Offtopic
[09:45]  * e-jat back ..
[09:46] <krisbae> cruddpuppet what arch do you use? x86_64 ?
[09:46] <stealth-fone> Also, does 'dir -lah' show files?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> !kdevelop | nat1
[09:47] <cruddpuppet> krisbae: I have NO clue what this computer is running, other than "Linux" (uname -a returns nothing)
[09:47] <mgolisch> cruddpuppet: ?
[09:47] <cruddpuppet> and no, dir does not show anything as well
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !eclipse | nat1
[09:47] <cruddpuppet> mgolisch: Yes?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> !info eclipse  | nat1
[09:47] <mgolisch> cruddpuppet: lsb_release -a?
[09:47] <mgolisch> if its lsb compliant it should have that command
[09:47] <cruddpuppet> "Codename:	Final"
[09:48] <stdin> !code | nat1
[09:48] <stealth-fone> cruddpuppet:  apt-get install chkrootkit
[09:48] <stdin> there's a good list
[09:48] <stealth-fone> lol
[09:48] <cruddpuppet> I can't install ;-;
[09:48] <krisbae> cruddpuppet hmm. maybe centos?
[09:48] <krisbae> it maybe centos 4.6 final
[09:49] <cruddpuppet> krisbae: probably, but that would not explain why ls -lah does not work >__<
[09:49] <stealth-fone> :|
[09:49] <krisbae> ah
[09:49] <krisbae> becuase you got cracked or hacked
[09:49] <krisbae> check it
[09:49] <stealth-fone> cruddpuppet: It explains it perfectly fine to me.
[09:49] <stealth-fone> It's RH.
[09:49] <stealth-fone> LOL
[09:49] <cruddpuppet> o
[09:49] <krisbae> lsattr /usr/bin/* | grep -- -v '--------'
[09:49]  * stealth-fone keeps personal bias to himself.
[09:49] <cruddpuppet> krisbae: I'm sure I did not get attacked in any way
[09:50] <Archess> hi
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> hi Archess
[09:50] <krisbae> I got the same problem when I installed x86_64 os and got ssh brute-force attack.
[09:50] <stealth-fone> Heroes, Villains, and Victims
[09:50] <cruddpuppet> ssh doesn't have a password timeout?
[09:50] <stealth-fone> White hats, black hats and redhats.
[09:50]  * stealth-fone snickers.
[09:51] <cruddpuppet> lol
[09:51] <krisbae> they installed 32bit binary and I didn't have 32bit binary compitable
[09:51] <ben34> Is there a tutorial to setup ldap authentication for samba and not a domain controller
[09:51] <stealth-fone> cruddpuppet: Can you run md5sum?
[09:51] <gatestone> My Firefox problems were solved by restarting X.
[09:51] <cruddpuppet> yes, I can
[09:51] <Archess> (sorry about my english i'm french) so... how can i convert a video .avi who use the indeo video 5 to flv ? plz
[09:51] <stealth-fone> Run the md5sum on it and then google for the correct md5sum for that binary.
[09:52] <gatestone> My Skype problem was solved by installing new version (from Medibuntu)
[09:52] <cabi> does anybody knows a good ubuntu mailing list?
[09:52] <Illarane> ActionParsnip: No, apparently someone at Debian changed the way that Firefox links against libxpcom, and it appears to have filtered through to Ubuntu.
[09:53] <stealth-fone> You can always apt-get source.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Archess: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-562209.html
[09:53] <stealth-fone> :/
[09:53] <krisbae> stealth-fone if got cracked md5sum changed also
[09:53] <krisbae> by cracker
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Illarane: hmm, sounds like you need a symlink of somekind. Im not familiar with any part of your question, sorry
[09:53] <frith> what is the ubuntu's default inetd server?
[09:54] <stealth-fone> krisbae: Fair enough.
[09:55] <stealth-fone> Assuming it wasn't asians, or kids. lol
[09:55] <bazhang> cabi, lists.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <Archess> ActionParsnip, i know that but when i launch the command i've got an error :  Sorry, this file format is not recognized/supported
[09:55] <rj> leave
[09:55] <cabi> bazhang: thanks
[09:55] <stealth-fone> I ehhh... know a guy, he always just replaced ls and ps with nasty shell scripts and carried on until he could drop in a LKM rootkit.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Archess: can you ive us a pastebin of the lines from when you run the command to when you get your terminal back
[09:56] <bazhang> stealth-fone, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <hml> i know i can fix this via restartgi
[09:56] <hml> but i prefer to fix it in some  other way
[09:56] <hml> x@x:~$ ghci
[09:56] <hml> GHCi, version 6.8.2: http://www.haskell.org/ghc/  :? for help
[09:56] <hml> Segmentation fault
[09:56] <FloodBot3> hml: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !paste  | Archess
[09:56] <krisbae> stealth-fone even they change inittab
[09:56] <rikimaru28> ola
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Archess: http://apocryph.org/transcoding_avi_flv_ffmpeg
[09:57] <stealth-fone> You all don't pay me enough for this shit, I quit.
[09:58] <Exlax> Can someone help me? :/ I haven't been able to use 8.04 since it came out, because after 3 - 5 hours of uptime, gnome just completely crashes. Terminals are just white blocks with window decorations, and after that happens nothing works.
[09:58] <Exlax> I ran MemTest86 for like 15 hours, 12 passes and no errors.
[09:58] <bazhang> Exlax, with compiz or not
[09:58] <Exlax> Both
[09:58] <bullgard4> !punctuation | hml
[09:59] <Exlax> If i turn Desktop Effects to None, it still happens.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: does it do it for all users?
[10:00] <Exlax> I've never tried it with another user, but i've reformated many times, and it still occurs.
[10:00] <pier> c'è nessuno?
[10:00] <bazhang> !it | pier
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: have you checked your logs?
[10:00] <pier> grazie :D
[10:01] <Mehrab> hey everyone
[10:01] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: How do i do that?
[10:01] <hateball> !hi | Mehrab
[10:01] <Mehrab> I have an error when I want to play a mp3 file
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: whats the error?
[10:01] <hateball> Mehrab: Have you installed the restricted codecs?
[10:01] <Mehrab> and it is : Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[10:02] <bazhang> Mehrab, what error? did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: is the mp3 on your system or is it an internet stream?
[10:02] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: Which one should i check?
[10:02] <Mehrab> bazhang: yes I've installed them
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: application crash
[10:02] <bazhang> Mehrab, streaming or from hdd
[10:02] <Mehrab> ActionParsnip: on my system
[10:03] <immy123> ActionParsnip:i tried to follow the instructions of that thread again. but didn't work
[10:03] <immy123> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current host architecture 'amd64' does not appear in package's architecture list (i386)
[10:03] <Mehrab> bazhang: from HDD
[10:03] <immy123> some message like that appeared in the terminal
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: you using totem?
[10:03] <bazhang> Mehrab, that is an odd error for a non-stream; which app is this
[10:04] <Mehrab> ActionParsnip: I tried totem and amarok and vlc and songbird, and none of them could play
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/191027
[10:04] <Mehrab> bazhang: I used totem, vlc, amarok and songbird
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: seems common
[10:05] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: I don't have that option under the Log viewer
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: you dont need the log viewer, just open the text files specified in the link i gave you
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: thats all your "log viewer" is doing
[10:06] <Mehrab> ActionParnsip: this is a new problem for me, I used to play music easily before
[10:06] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: apport.log doesn't exist in the directory
[10:06] <bazhang> Mehrab, since installing wine?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: what audio system are you using? ALSA / Pulse / OSS?
[10:07] <St_setia> lll
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: sudo find / -name apport.log -exec gedit {} /;
[10:07] <St_setia> jrjdj
[10:07] <bazhang> St_setia, english please
[10:07] <Mehrab> bazhang: no I've installed wine a long time ago and didn't have any problem untill yesterday
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: sudo find / -name apport.log -exec gedit {} \;
[10:08] <Mehrab> ActionParsnip: how can I recognize it?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: got the end the wrong way round
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: head into settings
[10:08] <Mehrab> ActionParsnip: in totem?
[10:08] <bazhang> Mehrab, sound prefs
[10:09] <benzss> !envy
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: sound prefs
[10:09] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: It's empty
[10:10] <lol22> hello, i have the device br0 how can i activate it over the terminal?
[10:10] <bembie> salam kenal semuanya
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: huh?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: set it to alsa
[10:10] <bazhang> !sa | bembie
[10:10] <hateball> Anyone have any ideas why firefox is taking an awful long time to start sometimes? This can be for a brand new user, no extensions etc
[10:10] <yabuk> I can't use my scanner, I receive this error: xsane: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/sane/libsane-hp2400.so.1: undefined symbol: sanei_usb_init
[10:10] <yabuk> what does it mean (to my learning :) )  and how to fix this?
[10:10] <bembie> indonesia ada gak ???
[10:10] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: there is only a apport.log in /etc/apport, and it's blank
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> hateball: try swiftfox
[10:10] <bazhang> hateball, how much ram
[10:11] <hateball> bazhang: 16GB... it's on a server :)
[10:11] <hateball> ActionParsnip: Not an option, it's for end users
[10:11] <bazhang> hateball, how slow
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: hmm, weird. there should be logs around the place and you can read them to see whats what
[10:11] <lol22> hello, i have the device br0 how can i activate it over the terminal?
[10:11] <hateball> bazhang: Say... 10-15 seconds
[10:11] <Mehrab> "autodetect". , should I  choose alsa?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> hateball: how long is "a long time"?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: yeah, i would
[10:11] <hateball> bazhang: First I thought it was the urlclassifier thingy, but it seems to be random
[10:12] <bazhang> hateball, that is really slow; what kernel you running
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: id also reboot
[10:12] <hateball> bazhang: ubuntu server 8.04 kernel
[10:12] <bazhang> hateball, quad core?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> hateball: you got full updates?
[10:12] <hateball> bazhang: Yup... 2 of them actually
[10:13] <hateball> ActionParsnip: Ye
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> hateball: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:13] <hateball> ActionParsnip: I'm not that newbish ;)
[10:13] <bazhang> hateball, seem to remember a bug in launchpad about that
[10:13] <hateball> bazhang: Alright, I'll have a look. Cheers
[10:13] <Mehrab> AcctionParsnip: thanks man. it works now. thank you
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> hateball: just habit
[10:13] <hateball> ActionParsnip: It's all good :)
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Mehrab: np bro
[10:13] <bazhang> Mehrab, reboot fixed it?
[10:13] <Mehrab> bazhang: thank you too, it's now working
[10:14] <bazhang> hateball, this is for thin clients?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: i think choosing the sound system got it
[10:14] <hateball> bazhang: Yea
[10:14] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, I think you are right sir
[10:14] <Mehrab> bazhang: not reboot, I just change sound system to alsa
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> autodetect always breaks stuff
[10:14] <bazhang> true
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> i find it in many cases
[10:15] <lol22> hello, i have the device br0 how can i activate it over the terminal?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> is pulseaudio new compared to alsa?
[10:15] <bazhang> yes
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> lol22: what is the device?
[10:16] <Dima_Sharihin> Hi2all! I have notebook Acer Extensa 4220-200508Mi and Xubuntu 8.04(from Ubuntu 8.04 DVD Repository). I have a little trouble: key "del" not works. In other Distros it's work very well
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: why did they bring it out when alsa is so beautiful
[10:16] <Dima_Sharihin> *ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron
[10:16] <Smegzor> I recently re-enabled nvidia in administration/hardware drivers.  Now when I get the login screen the resolution is so low, the login box is mostly off the screen.  After I login the nvidia driver adjusts the screen and I'm at full res again.  How do I fix the login resolution before nvidia kicks in?
[10:16] <benzss> where is the trash folder on hardy
[10:16] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: the only thing i can see around the time it crashed is a bunch of Pulseaudio things and "exiting on signal 15"
[10:16] <lesnik> hi!
[10:16] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, moving towards intrepid I think they had no choice
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Dima_Sharihin: you could map its keycode using keymaps
[10:17] <bazhang> hi lesnik
[10:17] <Dima_Sharihin>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[10:17] <benzss> !trash
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: you tried alsa?
[10:17] <lesnik> I`m using ubuntu 8.04. How to enable cron logging?
[10:17] <Malwir> !ot | bazhang
[10:17] <benzss> i don't have /.local!
[10:17] <benzss> what is going on
[10:17] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: I thought it was on ALSA. :X
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: check
[10:17] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: There's alot of "sink-input.c: Failed ot create sink input: too many inputs per sink."
[10:18] <velvithammer> heehe
[10:18] <Dima_Sharihin> ActionParsnip, hm. should i set "standard acpi" xkb layout?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: i have no iea there dude, hit up some search engines
[10:18] <guntbert> benzss: ~/.local, not /.local
[10:18] <Exlax> ActionParsnip: It's definately on ALSA.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Dima_Sharihin: where are you in the world
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Exlax: good (cures a tonne of problems)
[10:18] <benzss> guntbert: yeah, i can't navigate there
[10:19] <Dima_Sharihin> ActionParsnip, i'm from russia :)
[10:19] <benzss> oh
[10:19] <benzss> apparently nautilus as root doesn't know what ~ means :<
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Dima_Sharihin: with english keyboard or russian
[10:19] <Smegzor> benzss: all the dot folders are hidden.  Have you told Nautilus to show hidden folders?
[10:19] <ubuntufan> 大家好
[10:19] <velvithammer> english
[10:19] <Dima_Sharihin> ActionParsnip, ru(winkeys)
[10:19] <guntbert> benzss: why would you work as root?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> benzss: if you run nautilus as root, your ~/ will be /root and not /home/username
[10:20] <bazhang> !cn | ubuntufan
[10:20] <benzss> guntbert: because there is stuff in the trash that needs su to be deleted
[10:20] <computer_> can i make a cdrom drive from a folder?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> benzss: sudo rm /path/to/trash/*
[10:20] <benzss> i've only just moved to hardy so was confused about the new location of .Trash
[10:21] <benzss> but thanks for your help
[10:21] <benzss> :]
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> computer_: you can mount an iso to an empty folder
[10:21] <Aaron> hi everybody
[10:21] <guntbert> benzss: strange, but navigate to /home/<user>/.local
[10:21] <benzss> yeah i've got it sorted now
[10:21] <Aaron> I have a question
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Aaron
[10:21] <Aaron> ok ..
[10:21] <velvithammer> yeah it is strange that they'd move somewhere else
[10:22] <computer_> only iso can be a cdrom drive? cant i use a folder within my system?
[10:22] <the_gamer> hi folks
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> computer_: indeed, just create a symbolic link to the folder
[10:22] <Aaron> I want to order by the MEM when I use the top command ,so ..
[10:22] <Dima_Sharihin> ActionParsnip, what i can do to enable "Delete" key? it's very uncomfortable =)
[10:22] <Aaron> how to do that ..
[10:23] <bazhang> Aaron, htop is okay is well though you have to install it
[10:23] <computer_> how?
[10:23] <Rakeer> Anyone know what the PS3 XUbuntu group cloak name would be? :P
[10:23] <Aaron> bazhang ,you mean i need install htop
[10:24] <Aaron> right
[10:24] <Dima_Sharihin> computer_, maybe =)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: cd /media; ln -s /path/to/your/folder .
[10:24] <ubuntufan> who
[10:24] <ubuntufan> whois
[10:24] <Dima_Sharihin> i have very bad english
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Dima_Sharihin: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/ may help
[10:24] <bazhang> Rakeer, ask in #freenode perhaps
[10:24] <Rakeer> sry wrong chan :/
[10:24] <bazhang> Rakeer, or #ubuntu-ps3
[10:25] <Aaron> ActionParsnip , what's your mean? I cant understand
[10:25] <bazhang> ubuntufan, chinese?
[10:25] <computer_> can i make a "cdrom drive" from a folder?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: a symbolic  link is like a windows shortcut
[10:25] <ubuntufan> bazhang,yes
[10:25] <velvithammer> just mount the iso
[10:25] <bazhang> ubuntufan, /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Aaron but the filesystem thinks the folders are contained within the folder with the symbolic link
[10:26] <ubuntufan> i am first use x-chat login the IRC
[10:26] <bazhang> ubuntufan, or -tw or -hk :)
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: if you have a folder someplace you can symlink it so you can easilty traverse folders
[10:26] <ubuntufan> bazhang,ok i am fang main land
[10:26] <computer_> i want /home/me/folder to be a virtual cdrom drive. can someone help?
[10:26] <snakezx> anyone got wifi working in ubuntu
[10:26] <bazhang> ubuntufan, then it would be /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:27] <ubuntufan> ok
[10:27] <bazhang> snakezx, what chipset
[10:27] <Dima_Sharihin> snakezx, ndiswrapper?
[10:27] <Aaron> ActionParsnip,thanks
[10:27] <Aaron> I can try
[10:27] <snakezx> intel
[10:27] <computer_> ????????????
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> aaron: so if you make a symbolic link in /media to a folder then you can easily navigate to it to save data, the program you save data in will think the folder is in /media but its not. its wherever the link is linked to
[10:27] <Artful> Hi, I plan to use Ubuntu and Vista home on same pc.  I have fast q660 processor, I can dual boot them, or I am wondering if it is better to have Ubuntu as main OS and then just vmware into Vista.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[10:27] <meekolope> computer_: hello
[10:27] <computer_> hi
[10:28] <computer_> i want /home/me/folder to be a virtual cdrom drive. can someone help?
[10:28] <rconan> computer_, since a cdrom is just mounted as a folder in ubuntu i don't understand what you mean
[10:28] <snakezx> why is it working with 7.04 and when i installed 8.04 it stopped working
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: a good example of this is my setup. I have all my data stored on a seperate box, my folders for images and music are symlinks over the lan but my computer thinks they are local folders
[10:28] <Dima_Sharihin> computer_, don't reply question
[10:28] <snakezx> do u think it will work when 8.10 is out
[10:28] <meekolope> computer_: do "ln -s /path/to/ure/cdrom /home/me/folder"
[10:28] <computer_> how do u make a folder mount as a cdrom drive?
[10:28] <Aaron> ActionParsnip,okey ,thanks again
[10:29] <bazhang> computer_, dont repeat so often please
[10:29] <Dima_Sharihin> snakezx, you change kernel?
[10:29] <Rakeer> rconan: oh I know what hes talking about...theres a way to spoof the shell to think the folder is a cd drive and acts as such...
[10:29] <guntbert> computer_: please tell me, why you want to do that
[10:29] <rconan> you could just mount -o bind the folder to where your cdrom drive normally is
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> computer_: cdroms are folders just like regular folders
[10:29] <snakezx> Dima_Sharihin yes when i use the 7.04 it works fine with 8.04 but when i use the 8.04 kernel it doesnt
[10:29] <computer_> i want to test something to see if it works
[10:29] <Aaron> ActionParsnip, I have a another queastion  for you
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: go for it
[10:30] <rconan> something like "mount -o bind /home/me/folder /media/cdrom"
[10:30] <guntbert> !prefix | computer_
[10:30] <rconan> computer_, what are you trying to achieve specifically?
[10:30] <samphippen> how do i bridge two network interfaces in ubuntu?
[10:30] <guntbert> computer_: what do want to test?
[10:31] <rconan> !bridge-utils | samphippen
[10:31] <snakezx> Dima_Sharihin whats the eaiest way to compile the kernel to make my wifi works
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !find bridge
[10:31] <samphippen> rconan, what?
[10:31] <bazhang> samphippen, load balancing?
[10:31] <rconan> I thought ubottu had package descriptions...
[10:31] <Dima_Sharihin> snakezx, hm. i'm have upgrade my ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 too. And wifi doesn't works with 2.6.24. May be, that ndiswrapper or other driver configured for old kernel?
[10:31] <samphippen> rconan, how do i use bridge-utils?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> rconan: its !info <package>
[10:31] <rconan> ActionParsnip, ah... my bad
[10:31] <Dima_Sharihin> snakezx, I use old 2.6.22 kernel from 7.10
[10:31] <Dima_Sharihin> =)
[10:31] <computer_> virtualbox running vista, i want the vb to think that a certain folder in my ubuntu is a cdrom drive
[10:31] <Aaron> I have a 40G usb harddisk by three parttions, but sometimes the HD been Read-only
[10:32] <rconan> samphippen, a quick google would give a ubuntu wiki page on the topic i think
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !info bridge-utils | samphippen
[10:32] <pier> sorry the ubuntu italian channel??
[10:32] <snakezx> Dima_Sharihin hehehe nice . maybe i should do the same
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !it | pier
[10:32] <Rakeer> computer_: I believe you have to simply mount the folder in loop mode?
[10:32] <rconan> samphippen, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces
[10:32] <Aaron> ActionParsnip,Can you hear me?
[10:32] <Rakeer> cant rmemeber the specific syntax
[10:32] <pier> :D grazie scusate :)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: mount it user writable
[10:33] <savvas0> computer_: #vbox
[10:33] <Aaron> writable?
[10:33] <Aaron> how to do that
[10:33] <guntbert> computer_: I cannot help with virtualbox, sorry
[10:33] <velvithammer> make sure you wifi switch is on .. I know i scratched my head trying to figure that one out through software.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Aaron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198614
[10:33] <Dima_Sharihin> snakezx, are you from russia?
[10:33] <computer_> how do u make a folder mount as a cdrom drive? this doesn't have to relate to virtualbox :)
[10:34] <snakezx> nope , r u  ?
[10:34] <snakezx> .ru
[10:34] <snakezx> i guess u r
[10:34] <snakezx> ;p
[10:34] <rconan> computer_, there is no difference between a normal folder and a cd drive
[10:34] <velvithammer> same thing
[10:34] <Aaron> ActionParsnip,thanks a lot , I can see
[10:34] <savvas0> computer_: you make an iso out of it and mount it as a cd image
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> computer_: when you mount a cd drive it becomes a folder in the file system
[10:34] <Dima_Sharihin> computer_, don't make our brain cry =)
[10:34] <velvithammer> hehe
[10:35] <Bollinger> Is it possible to clear the console screen of all boot messages, when the login prompt is displayed on Ubuntu 8.04 Server?
[10:36] <velvithammer> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test
[10:36] <guntbert> !prefix | velvithammer
[10:36] <savvas0> Bollinger: you could use another console screen: ctrl + alt + F2
[10:36] <velvithammer> (mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test]
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Bollinger: you could add the clear command at the end of our init scripts
[10:37] <rconan> Bollinger, i think you have to edit /etc/issue and add a clear command there
[10:37] <asho79> anybody know how to set up phone as webcam using jsmartcam? (or know of any s60v3 software to do it)
[10:37] <Bollinger> Thanks guys,  savvas0, ActionParsnip, rconan   I'll give them a try
[10:37] <rconan> Bollinger, well... not a clear command, there is a way to do it in there though
[10:37] <asho79> i have this to go off....Just open a shell in the src/driver path and type:
[10:37] <asho79> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/build M=`pwd` modules
[10:37] <asho79> In the above command replace /lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/build to the path corresponding to
[10:37] <asho79> your system. After successfully compiling the driver you should have the file smartcam.ko in the
[10:37] <asho79> src/driver folder.
[10:37] <FloodBot3> asho79: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <rconan> Bollinger, i know it's from gentoo docs but this will work: http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_Clear_screen_on_logout
[10:38] <Alver11> I often get notices that updates are available for software packages linux-headers-2.6.2*, linux-headers-2.6.2* generic, linux-image-2.6.2*
[10:38] <Alver11> I have updated them several time
[10:38] <Alver11> but like every other week there is an update for these packages
[10:38] <bazhang> Alver11, some are being held back?
[10:39] <Alver11> bazhang,  no
[10:39] <asho79> but i can´t work out the path, my version is 2.6.24-21 generic
[10:39] <Alver11> bazhang,  after each update there is a new line added in my Grub Menu
[10:39] <rconan> Alver11, this is normal for kernel updates. you can remove the old ones if you want
[10:39] <acp_> !bitchx
[10:39] <bazhang> Alver11, so you wish to remove some?
[10:39] <asho79> sorry
[10:40] <Alver11> rconan,  i am just worried i feel that the frequency of these updates is too much
[10:40] <rconan> Alver11, i don't think so
[10:41] <bazhang> Alver11, not to worry; they are likely need security fixes and such
[10:41] <rconan> Alver11, kernel updates are fairly frequent
[10:41] <Alver11> rconan,  thats what i meant they are too frequent
[10:41] <koshari> Alver11 remember that with linux there are lots of driver modules in the kernel which are constantly being updated.
[10:41] <velvithammer> not daily though
[10:42] <Alver11> koshari,  should I disable those driver modules?
[10:43] <guntbert> !prefix > velvithammer
[10:43] <Alver11> here is this another question
[10:43] <koshari> Alver11 no
[10:43] <bazhang> guntbert, no need for that
[10:43] <rconan> Alver11, there's nothing you can do, it is not a problem though
[10:43] <Alver11> I feel that the start up time of my computer has increased i think thats because i installed too many software removed them
[10:44] <bordem> :d
[10:44] <bazhang> Alver11, how much
[10:44] <Alver11> so how do i speed up my start up time
[10:44] <Alver11> bazhang,  when i newly installed ubuntu it was 30secs before i reached my desktop now its 50
[10:45] <Rakeer> anyone remember me? it's been a few years since I logged on :P (ubuntu 6.04~)
[10:45] <rconan> Alver11, the kernel updates are not the issue
[10:45] <bazhang> Alver11, that is quite a slowdown
[10:45] <Alver11> rconan,  yes i understand that thank you
[10:45] <Dima_Sharihin> in what kernel Texas Instruments 5-in-1 card reader will read XD cards?
[10:45] <bazhang> Alver11, check which services are starting up that you do not need and disable them
[10:45] <rconan> Alver11, have you installed anything which you know runs on startup (servers mainly)
[10:46] <benzss> is realplayer in the repos?
[10:46] <bazhang> benzss, no, go to their site and get the installer
[10:46] <Alver11> rconan,  yes i have apache installed i use it to play with php mysql
[10:46] <benzss> bazhang: rgr
[10:46] <rconan> Alver11, so some extra time will be apache and mysql starting
[10:46] <bazhang> benzss, the installer is case sensitive though so be careful :)
[10:47] <Alver11> rconan,  i think i should turn them off too and make some small script to start them whenever i need and place it on panel
[10:47] <rconan> Alver11, i don't know offhand how you disable the automatic startup in ubuntu
[10:47] <rconan> someone here will
[10:48] <Alver11> rconan,  i will figure that out
[10:48] <Alver11> thank you guys :)
[10:48] <amal029> update-rc.d?, please read the man page
[10:48] <Alver11> BTw I recently tried windows vista
[10:48] <Alver11> I think it was very very goodlooking OS
[10:49] <vedant> Hi, I am unable to tunnel http over ssh. Apparently I am not receiving the socks5 connect request ack.
[10:49] <koshari> Alver11 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[10:50] <koshari> Alver11 you want good looking, you tried compiz fusion?
[10:50] <Alver11> koshari,  thank you for the link
[10:50] <Alver11> koshari,  yes i have full effects enabled
[10:51] <Alver11> i think open source should do something about the fonts
[10:51] <koshari> Alver11 reflections if my fav eye candy, modest but very nice
[10:51] <Araen> hello
[10:51] <Alver11> like this font in window title bar is quite ugly in bold
[10:51] <Araen> how can I resize a extented partition with Gparted ?
[10:51] <koshari> Alver11 you can load msttfonts, there redistributable
[10:52] <koshari> Araen with gparted
[10:52] <bazhang> Alver11, gnome-look.org and some free fonts and it is much nicer :)
[10:52] <Araen> koshari: yes, but when I open gparted, i go on my partition, and i can't resize
[10:53] <Alver11> koshari,  i have msttfonts i guess
[10:53] <vedant> when I tunnel through ssh, I get the message " channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed" in the ssh session. How do I work around that?
[10:53] <koshari> Araen do you have any active partitions in the extended partition?
[10:53] <abraham> ubuntu rox my sox
[10:53] <Alver11> Araen,  you can resize any partition with Ubuntu Live/Install CD
[10:53] <Araen> koshari: yes, but I'm on on the live cd
[10:53] <Araen> Alver11: yes, I ma
[10:53] <Araen> am*
[10:54] <ghost_> can ldap contacts be edited/added from within evolution?
[10:54] <XitroX> hi. i have a dell m1330 laptop with integrated bluetooth. lsusb lists the broadcom chip which corresponds to the bt-device but hci doesn't recognize it. has anyone an ideo what to try?
[10:54] <koshari> Araen gparted works same on live or installed except you cannot work mounted partitions with installed
[10:54] <ghost_> i'm using evolution version 2.6.3
[10:54] <Araen> koshari: so how can I resize this extented partition ?
[10:55] <Araen> (I can resize the others)
[10:57] <Araen> nobody knows ?
[10:58] <Dima_Sharihin> Araen, resize /?
[10:58] <waistless> hi i'm using linux mint, libdvdcss2 and libdvdread are installed, yet why can't totem play dvds saying it needs libdvdcss
[10:58] <bullgard4> [GNOME, ssh] Places > Connect to Server > Service type: SSH, Server: <IP_ADDRESS>, Bookmark name: MD97600, Add bookmark asserted. This made appear on this Ubuntu 8.04.1 computer in the 'Places' menu an entry  'sftp on <IP_ADDRESS>'. Is this entry the 'Bookmark' of the 'Connect to Server' dialog?4
[10:59] <Araen> Dima_Sharihin: heu, yes ,
[10:59] <Araen> ?
[10:59] <bazhang> !mintsupport | waistless
[10:59] <waistless> have you checked how many people are in that channel?
[10:59] <waistless> and linux mint is a derivative of ubuntu anyway - uses ubuntu packages
[10:59] <Dima_Sharihin> Araen, have you try to resize from installation/rescue disk?
[11:00] <waistless> just pretent i'm using hardy with the medibuntu repos installed
[11:00] <Araen> Dima_Sharihin: I don't understand what you mean, I'm on the live cd now
[11:00] <bazhang> waistless, install ubuntu then we can talk :)
[11:00] <waistless> clearly you don't know what mint is..
[11:01] <waistless> it's just ubuntu hardy with a couple of fancy packages
[11:01] <Dima_Sharihin> Araen, hm... and you can't to resize?
[11:01] <bazhang> waistless, I do know it is not supported here :)
[11:01] <Araen> Dima_Sharihin: yes, I can resize my others partition, but not my extented
[11:01] <waistless> does it matter
[11:02] <Dima_Sharihin> Araen, you tried to increase size?
[11:02] <ghostknife2> How can I enable automatic login of a user via configuration files? I have a disk here to be installed on a bunch of keyboardless tablet terminals, so I want it to be automatically logged in as a certain user, though I need to do it with files, as i can't access the O/S right now
[11:02] <Araen> Dima_Sharihin: no, I can't
[11:02] <Araen> the buttons are disabled
[11:03] <xk001> hello there, how can i clean the terminals commands chache?
[11:03] <Dima_Sharihin> Araen, unmount partion
[11:03] <Dima_Sharihin> *partition
[11:03] <john_galt> hi, i'm using ubuntu hardy with the medibuntu repos, why is that totem can't play dvds saying it's needs libdvdcss, when libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 are already installed?
[11:03] <xk001> hello there, how can i clean the terminals commands chache?  rm .bash_history does not work o0
[11:04] <Dima_Sharihin> xk001, Do you use the MC terminal?
[11:04] <Araen> Dima_Sharihin: what must I put for "partition" ?
[11:05] <reehan> can anyone tell me how do i check hardware configuration in ubuntu?
[11:05] <reehan> pleaseeeeeeeeee
[11:05] <reehan> i am using ubuntu8.04
[11:06] <bazhang> reehan, could you clarify please
[11:06] <reehan> i want to check what processsor am using, and all such hardware related info
[11:06] <guntbert> Araen: have you seen http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm ?
[11:06] <reehan> how do i get it bazhang?
[11:06] <Dima_Sharihin> Araen, what do you use for editing parttabe?
[11:06] <bazhang> sudo lshw reehan
[11:06] <peter__> use 'dmidecode
[11:07] <reehan> thank u so much bazhang
[11:07] <reehan> :)
[11:07] <bazhang> :)
[11:07] <Araen> Dima_Sharihin: gparted
[11:07] <Araen> guntbert: yes, and it doesn't work
[11:07] <guntbert> Araen: are you sure you got free space on your HD?
[11:08] <Araen> I want decrease my partition
[11:09] <P3X-018> Is there a command that can give you the total number of, dir, files, links and etc in a given directory?
[11:09] <Araen> guntbert: I've partitions in the extented, so I must delete it to resize ? :/
[11:11] <guntbert> Araen: first you must decrease/move your existing partitions, so that there is free space within the extended p.
[11:12] <Araen> it's ok, i managed
[11:13] <guntbert> Araen: all well now?
[11:13] <Araen> guntbert: :)
[11:13] <Araen> yes, I must disable the swap
[11:13] <xk001> is there any command to clean cache commands from terminal?
[11:13] <clp> How to copy directories and sub-contents to another directory?
[11:14] <reehan> in my hardware configuration i am getting width as 64 bits in cpu
[11:14] <jino> What is the ulimit? ? ? ? ? ? ?
[11:14] <guntbert> clp: cp -r <source> <target>
[11:15] <reehan>  in my hardware configuration i am getting width as 64 bits in cpu...does it mean i cn install 64-bit ubuntu?
[11:15] <clp> thanks, let me try.
[11:15] <koshari> clp use the recursive switch
[11:15] <suresh_> hi,  how to access D: E:  drives without password
[11:16] <koshari> suresh depends on the ntfs permissions
[11:16] <clp> It's right.
[11:16] <suresh_> its on fat32
[11:16] <clp> thanks.
[11:17] <koshari> suresh local drive or samba share?
[11:17] <suresh_>  local drive
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> suresh_, you must have permissions to access them
[11:17] <reehan>  in my hardware configuration i am getting width as 64 bits in cpu...does it mean i cn install 64-bit ubuntu?
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | reehan
[11:18] <jino> ulimit? ? ?
[11:18] <koshari> suresh_  have you mounted them successfully?
[11:18] <suresh_> koshari   :  how ?
[11:18] <jino> hi
[11:18] <arvind_khadri> !hi | jino
[11:18] <suresh_> now acess with password
[11:18] <koshari> suresh_ mount dev placeholder
[11:19] <jino> thank u
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> jino, what about ulimit?
[11:19] <jino> Could u plz tell me about ulimit.
[11:19] <jino> ya
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> jino, ulimit is used to set the number of users you would allow to be added
[11:20] <jino> Is it about system resources? ? ?
[11:20] <arvind_khadri> suresh_, just check whether the admin has given you permissions to access external drives or not...
[11:21] <nomic> anyoen know if it's wise to remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock file?
[11:21] <suresh_> arvind :  iam a admin
[11:21] <GNtUx> juego manager online de basket : www.basketstars.com/ref.asp?Id=1293
[11:22] <koshari> suresh_ i are imagining the password prompt will be your sudo password, if you want to mount them automaticly you will need to place a fstab line
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> nomic, its not wise to remove it
[11:22] <fogobogo> nomic: its no drama i guess. why would you want to do that?
[11:22] <Dima_Sharihin> Wil F*ck this @#$32 msttcorefonts
[11:22] <nomic> to remove the lock
[11:22] <fogobogo> nomic: got an error or so?
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> !language | Dima_Sharihin
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> nomic, why do you want to remove it?
[11:22] <nomic> its ok it comes back thanks for help
[11:22] <koshari> suresh_  because by mounting the perminant drive would be an administrative function
[11:23] <Dima_Sharihin> arvind_khadri, do you know what is internet for .35 USD/Mb
[11:23] <smelian> hello  ubuntu can make this work on it ( BandLuxe USB modem) this is for info http://www.expansys.com.hk/d.aspx?i=157662
[11:23] <arvind_khadri> suresh_, then see all your permissions
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> Dima_Sharihin, no as i am in India....
[11:24] <Dima_Sharihin> arvind_khadri, i'm in russia. too expensive internet
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> Dima_Sharihin, oh ok
[11:25] <rihs_> hi, can somebody help me with framebuffer issues
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> !anyone | rihs_
[11:26] <rihs_> ubottu: ok, my question follows...
[11:27] <reehan>  in my hardware configuration i am getting width as 64 bits in cpu...does it mean i cn install 64-bit ubuntu?
[11:27] <rihs_> how can I add more resolution possibilities to my virtual terminal?
[11:27]  * Dima_Sharihin sets a bottle to ubottu
[11:27] <Dima_Sharihin> the cleverest bot i saw
[11:27] <reehan> does anyone know where i can help related to h/w?
[11:28] <Dima_Sharihin> reehan, i think, yes
[11:28] <reehan> pls reply
[11:28] <reehan> Thank u Dima:)P
[11:28] <reehan> :)
[11:28] <pajamian> reehan: try the live CD, if it works then you can install it.
[11:28] <reehan> ok pajamian :). thanks for the help
[11:29] <Dima_Sharihin> reehan, and.... why u need x64 bit system?
[11:29] <agent> after installing ubuntu, i get a grub error 17, but after reinstalling ubuntu again, i get error 18. I tried re-installing windows mbr but that does not work either... any ideas? I also tried re-installing grub many times
[11:29] <reehan> Just doing some project work yaa.....so have to fix my h/w s/w
[11:29] <Dima_Sharihin> agent, reinstall ubuntu again, and get error 19 =)
[11:29] <agent> Dima_Sharihin, :(
[11:29] <arvind_khadri> agent, maybe your partitions are a toast....wipe everything and then partition it and then install Ubuntu
[11:30] <pajamian> reehan: I should warn you that 64 bit ubuntu has a few issues with things such as flash, java, proprietary AV codecs, etc.
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> pajamian, they have all been removed...doesnt affect muct to the end user ...
[11:30] <reehan> oh oh....thanks man...i ll surely take that into my consideration first
[11:30] <agent> arvind_khadri, I cannot wipe everything as I have a LOT of important information on there... partitions seem okay when I mount them in livecd
[11:30] <eitri> pajamian, I've used for some time on my laptop. and had no problems
[11:30] <reehan> does anyone of u know how do i install qt
[11:31] <pajamian> well, last time I tried 64 bit was feisty, maybe there have been improvements since then.
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> reehan, sudo apt-get install qt-3
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> agent, copy them somewhere...and then have a new geometry
[11:31] <reehan> ok
[11:32] <Dima_Sharihin> ok, tnx2all, bye!
[11:32] <eitri> pajamian, honestly, I have no clue to that.. But worked for me :)
[11:32] <hml> what's a linux-compatible, cheap tablet? i don't care much about pressure sensistivity, but i want the x/y pixel measurements to be accurate
[11:32] <reehan> its giving cudnt find package qt-3
[11:32] <reehan> :(
[11:32] <arvind_khadri> !qt | reehan
[11:33] <pajamian> eitri: when I tried it in feisty, I had to install a seperate copy of 32 bit FF just to get flash and java to work properly.  the 32 bit plugin wrapper didn't work for me.
[11:33] <xanax`> isn't ubuntu intrepid ibex alpha 4 completely uninstallable ? once just launched, the cd install reports a kernel error
[11:34] <agent> besides wiping all partitions, any ideas on how to fix grub/mbr?
[11:34] <reehan> thanx2all guys
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> xanax`, ask #ubuntu+1
[11:34] <pajamian> !intrepid | xanax`
[11:34] <reehan> bbye
[11:35] <acemo> agent: boot from a live cd, open a console, type grub
[11:35] <Zhane> I did "rm -rf " some files when I'm the root.. the files seems to be still hogging my diskspace.. How can i clear them off? my root's trash @ /root/.local/share/Trash/ does not have those files
[11:35] <acemo> agent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:35] <agent> acemo, find /boot/grub/stage1, root(hdX,X), setup(hdX)... done that a few times already :(
[11:36] <acemo> =o
[11:36] <acemo> that pretty much worked for me
[11:36] <pajamian> Zhane: if you rm -rf them they are gone
[11:36] <acemo> maybe you put it on wrong partition?
[11:36] <agent> acemo, and i installed ubuntu after windows :D and annoying thing is, i cannot even recover the windows bootloader now :(
[11:37] <Zhane> pajamian.. i rm -rf a few of the 200mb files.. but they are still present when i do "df"
[11:37] <acemo> thats weird.. installing linux after windows always gone good for me
[11:37] <Sorcererbob> I have a general linux question. Is there something like Active Directory in the Linux world? central authentication (via samba for windows clients?), ability to run startup scripts, map network drives, set up printers for the domain, group policies, etc?
[11:37] <agent> acemo, i doubt it because grub is installed but gives fatal errors
[11:37] <Zhane> the disk space doesnt change
[11:37] <agent> acemo, yea, me too... this is the first time some weird thing like this has happened
[11:37] <krisbae> Sorcererbob use openldap
[11:37] <pajamian> Zhane: then they are probably hard linked somewhere else in the file system.
[11:37] <Sorcererbob> openldap, thanks krisbae
[11:37] <krisbae> Sorcererbob openldap and other services
[11:37] <Sorcererbob> can you name the other services?
[11:38] <Zhane> pajamian: what can I do?
[11:38] <pajamian> Zhane: find the other place where they are listed and remove them from there too
[11:38] <Zhane> Pajamian: how?
[11:38] <krisbae> Sorcererbob dhcpd . bind , samba , etc and.. you can control system with ssh
[11:38] <pajamian> Zhane: in Linux filesystems a file can have more than one directory entry, the actual file doesn't get removed until all its directory entries are deleted.
[11:38] <Sorcererbob> oh cool, yeah I figured those
[11:38] <krisbae> Sorcererbob many services support ldap authentification
[11:39] <Sorcererbob> I thought you meant something secret and magical. again, thanks for your help krisbae
[11:39] <Zhane> pajamian: i did rm -rf to the main directory though
[11:39] <Aquahallic> krisbae: in reference to your answer to Sorcererbob.... Can OpenLdap take the place of a DC?
[11:39] <ganesh> how can i install flying windows ccsm plugin?
[11:40] <pajamian> Zhane: I know, and the only explanation I can think of is that either the file is hard linked somewhere else or you are mistaken and you really did recover the space or there was an error in the filesystem when you removed the file.
[11:40] <krisbae> Aquahallic not totaly
[11:41] <Aquahallic> k... ty
[11:41] <krisbae> Aquahallic as you know openldap is just authentification
[11:41] <Zhane> okay then
[11:41] <krisbae> Aquahallic you need to configure other services with ldap
[11:41] <Zhane> i guess all that i can do is to reinstall
[11:41] <pajamian> Zhane: no, there is other ways
[11:41] <Zhane> i dont know what else I can do
[11:41] <krisbae> DC has more powerful features but ldap with other services and scripting can be better
[11:42] <pajamian> Zhane: ok, here is my suggestion ...
[11:42] <Aquahallic> that's what I was looking for... ;)
[11:42] <krisbae> ( it depends how many things se knows )
[11:42] <pajamian> Zhane: first try booting to the live CD and running fsck on the partition to make sure that there weren't any errors when you removed the files.
[11:42] <Aquahallic> we use an 'nix based appliance called Infoblox at work... it's doing our DNS and DHCP right now
[11:43] <Zhane> im using wubi.. will fsck work?
[11:43] <ganesh> how can i install flying windows ccsm plugin?
[11:43] <pajamian> Zhane: then if you still haven't recovered the space I would go hunting to see if you can find the other place where the file is linked in your file system...
[11:43] <arvind_khadri> pajamian, for that he need not boot into livecd he can use sudo shutdown -F -r
[11:43] <Aquahallic> that way we could offload those services from the DC
[11:43] <P3X-018> when doing a "ls -l" command, I know that the "d" as the first character in the permission list refers to directory, but what does "l" mean?
[11:43] <krisbae> Aquahallic yes
[11:43] <krisbae> Aquahallic I did same thing for small offices
[11:43] <pajamian> Zhane: ugh wubi, that changes everything, sorry, I can't help you with wubi, maybe someone else can.
[11:43] <Zhane> nvm then...
[11:44] <Vourdex> OK, I need some help. I am running Xubuntu, and I need to know how to get permission to copy files from my laptops interal had to my external hd? I wont let me paste to the external hd can anyone help? PS First time I have used Xubuntu. Thx!
[11:44] <Zhane> reinstall might be easier =_=
[11:44] <serkancan> anyone want to meet  turk boy ?
[11:44] <P3X-018> Like there is for a folder "drwx------" but there are some with "lrwx------" <-- what does "l" refer to?
[11:45] <l3d> I thought there was a simple systray music player but I cant seem to find it any ideas?
[11:45]  * Zhane off to reinstall
[11:45] <arvind_khadri> P3X-018, they are linked to some other file
[11:46] <zhaozhou> P3X-018, symlink.
[11:46] <P3X-018> Which is what exactly? A sort of "shortcut" to other directory?
[11:46] <zhaozhou> P3X-018, Or file.
[11:46] <P3X-018> ok
[11:46] <chris062689> Hey guys, I have a huge question, I'm relying on you!
[11:47] <chris062689> In order to stay using Linux, I must install "Alice" for school.
[11:47] <arvind_khadri> P3X-018, not really, they are linked to each other...if you change one the other too changes
[11:47] <zhaozhou> !ask
[11:47] <chris062689> It requires Java 1.4, but how the heck do I install that in a 64bit environment?
[11:47] <zhaozhou> chris062689, sun-java? (:
[11:47] <chris062689> that installs the wrong versoin
[11:47] <chris062689> which brings up an error.
[11:47] <ganesh> how do i install flying windows?
[11:47] <Rakeer> Can someone tell me where to find packages for ubuntu like 'rpm' to download manually?
[11:48] <chris062689> Alice REQUIRES Java 1.4, not any other version sadly.
[11:48] <Jackson> !weather 16057
[11:48] <Milenko> Jackson: From McCoys Corners, Grove City, Pennsylvania (6:48a Aug 29 08) temp(64.0 F) cond(Overcast) wind(South at 0.0 mph) hu(91%) dewpnt(61 F) bp(29.81 in) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 700 ft, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 1900 ft, Overcast (OVC) : 2600 ft) vis(4.0 miles) uv(0.0 out of 16)
[11:48] <Milenko> Yesterday's max/min(67.6 F/57.4 F) sunrise/sunset(6:44 AM EDT/7:56 PM EDT) moonrise/moonset(5:13 AM EDT/7:20 PM EDT) moonphase(Waning Crescent)
[11:48] <Milenko> Today: Areas of fog this morning. Cloudy with areas of drizzle this morning...then partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.
[11:48] <krisbae> chris062689 so you want to install jdk 1.4?
[11:48] <chris062689> Yes
[11:48] <zhaozhou> chris062689, is there no package called jre-1.4 or alike?
[11:48] <chris062689> Well, I want to install jre, not jdk.. I think..  I just need to run the Java application
[11:49] <Vourdex> Can anyone tell me how to set permissions to read and write to my external HD? I have no clue what I am doing, please help.
[11:49] <chris062689> I searched in synaptic.
[11:49] <chris062689> There wasn't any results.
[11:49] <damian_> Hello, how can I connect with a IRC network "POLNet" ?
[11:49] <krisbae> chris062689 what linux version do you use?
[11:49] <chris062689> Ubuntu 8.04 64bit
[11:50] <krisbae> chris062689 in that case I think you need to install jdk with your had
[11:50] <krisbae> hand
[11:50] <krisbae> =(
[11:50] <krisbae> jre;
[11:50] <chris062689> Ok.. how exactly.. do I do that?
[11:50] <krisbae> chris062689 wait a sec
[11:51] <Rakeer> Where are ubuntu packages available for manual download?
[11:51] <arvind_khadri> Rakeer, packages.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <Rakeer> ty
[11:52] <chris062689> The Blackdown Java(TM) 2 for amd64 / plugin installation
[11:52] <chris062689> Would this work?
[11:52] <krisbae> http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/previous.jsp
[11:52] <damian_> hey, can u hear me ? :P
[11:52] <krisbae> chris062689 get the binary release
[11:52] <Vourdex> Help please. Running Live Xubuntu. Need to know how to transfer from internal to external. Wont let me copy to external, how do I set permissions?
[11:52] <krisbae> chris062689 or you can use rpm
[11:53] <chris062689> I tried downloading from Java's site, but they don't have 64bit.
[11:53] <Aquahallic> krisbae: know of anything I can use to replace my home router that will let me do vlans and dhcp scope options and tftp?
[11:53] <arvind_khadri> Vourdex, be root
[11:53] <damian_> I want to connect to POLNet and i don't know how :(
[11:53] <Vourdex> OK, how do I do that?
[11:53] <arvind_khadri> Vourdex, sudo -i
[11:53] <krisbae> chris062689 maybe 32bit version works well with ia32-libs
[11:54] <krisbae> chris062689 I didn't test it but I did it in 64 bit rhel machine
[11:54] <Guest37685> juts done an update to my server and apache won't serve php pages any longer
[11:54] <hcMyth> How can I restart GDM? 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' only closes it and then Ihave to start it manually
[11:54] <krisbae> chris062689 what is alice? can you explain?
[11:54] <krisbae> Aquahallic hmm small distribution?
[11:54] <Guest37685> this is always bloody happening, and I can never remeber how to fix it
[11:54] <chris062689> krisbae: alice is 3d animation software I'm using for school, they have a Linux version, but it requires Java 1.4
[11:55] <hcMyth> ( I need to restart gdm after having changed the xorg.conf which I change to switch between tv and dual display mode)
[11:55] <Aquahallic> don't matter really... I have about 11 pc's here so I'd smoke one just for that if I can get something pretty robust.
[11:55] <rakeshm> hoho
[11:55] <Aquahallic> I flashed my current linksys with DD-WRT but it doesn't quite do everything I want it to
[11:55] <krisbae> chris062689 hmm is it use JNI?
[11:56] <chris062689> JNI?
[11:56] <krisbae> Aquahallic I heard some linux distribution for routers hmm but forgot =(
[11:56] <krisbae> chris062689 wait a sec I'm googling
[11:57] <chris062689> Everytime this happens.
[11:57] <krisbae> chris062689 do you use alice 2.0?
[11:57] <chris062689> !pastebin
[11:57] <chris062689> Yes
[11:57] <chris062689> http://paste.ubuntu.com/41507/
[11:57] <chris062689> This happens no matter what Java version it seems
[11:57] <chris062689> I searched, and sucessfully installed Blackwater Java 1.4
[11:57] <chris062689> But this still happens.
[11:58] <sandhya> does anyone know how to get my sound and wireless working on lenovo y410 ...
[11:58] <sandhya> can someone help.
[11:58] <sandhya> ?
[11:58] <Rakeer> how do I check disk uuid's?
[11:58] <SitUbuntuSit> I can only use pogo games with java 1.5
[11:58] <arvind_khadri> !wifi| sandhya
[11:58] <tghy> Hello
[11:58] <krisbae> chris062689 oops it's maybe JNI
[11:58] <sandhya> and for sound ?
[11:58] <theunixgeek> Any tips for dual-booting with Vista Ultimate SP1?
[11:59] <tghy> Does anyone used Ekiga + v4l2 and had a problem with not supported color format?
[11:59] <arvind_khadri> sandhya, which sound card?
[11:59] <chris062689> krisbae: I don't know what that is, :(
[11:59] <krisbae> chris062689 hmm alice serivce source codes. you can compile yours with jdk 1.6
[11:59] <tghy> Help!
[11:59] <chris062689> Perhaps.. but do you think it would be backwords compatable?
[11:59] <Exlax> Can someone help me? :/ I haven't been able to use 8.04 since it came out, because after 3 - 5 hours of uptime, gnome just completely crashes. Terminals are just white blocks with window decorations, and after that happens nothing works.
[11:59] <arvind_khadri> Rakeer, blkid
[11:59] <chris062689> Probably not.
[12:00] <sandhya> arvind_khadri, Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[12:00] <krisbae> chris062689 JNI do not have compatiabllity
[12:00] <chris062689> *sighs* ok.
[12:00] <chris062689> I guess I can just use another machine in the house.
[12:00] <chris062689> It has XP on it.
[12:00] <chris062689> Thanks for your time guys.
[12:00] <arvind_khadri> sandhya, have you got alsa setup?
[12:00] <tghy> Does anyone used Ekiga + v4l2 and had a problem with not supported color format?
[12:00] <krisbae> chris062689 np
[12:00] <krisbae> chris062689 enjoy it =)
[12:01] <sandhya> not yet
[12:01] <pajamian> Exlax: how much RAM does your computer have?
[12:01] <arvind_khadri> sandhya, then set that up... :)
[12:01] <Exlax> 4GB.
[12:01] <chris062689> Ungh, now I have to figure out how to undo what I just did (slaughtered my system trying to install Java lol)
[12:01] <Exlax> I'm on 32bit. I was curious if 64bit would make a difference.
[12:01] <sandhya> how ?
[12:01] <pajamian> Exlax: damn, that's a lot, it might do, 32 bit will only recognize 3.5 gig unless you use the server kernel ...
[12:02] <arvind_khadri> !alsa | sandhya
[12:02] <chris062689> Exlax: 32 to 64bit does make a slightly significance.
[12:02] <pajamian> Exlax: anyways, does the HDD seem to be running constantly when it happens?
[12:02] <sandhya> on tnx arvind_khadri
[12:02] <chris062689> Exlax: If you have to choose, go with 64bit to future proof yourself,  besides most packages are also built for 64bit operating systems now
[12:02] <tghy> Help!
[12:02] <Exlax> I know chris.
[12:02] <arvind_khadri> sandhya, welcome
[12:02] <Exlax> pajamian: I haven't checked, but what will happen is i'll go to open a termianl and it'll just be a white square with a window decoration.
[12:03] <Exlax> After that, some applications will show up as black squares with window decorations, firefox won't start at all, it won't log me out unless i ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:03] <spike1> Hello... need some help... anyone know anything about video tuner cards?
[12:03] <pajamian> Exlax: that sounds like RAM running out.  That hsouldn't happen with 4gig, but maybe you have a program that is leakign a lot of memory.
[12:03] <Exlax> and if i ctrl+alt+backspace and log back in, it just hangs.
[12:03] <pajamian> Exlax: and if you reboot it takes another 3-4 hours before it happens again, right?
[12:04] <Exlax> pajamian: I noticed conky only shows ram increases; not decreases. after a few hours of uptime my memory meter will be full in conky, but in the system monitor its fine.
[12:04] <Exlax> pajamian: correct.
[12:04] <Malwir> LOL
[12:04] <Exlax> pajamian: sometimes, it takes a lot longer. it went 12 hours yesterday.
[12:04] <theunixgeek> how can download build-essential for offline installation on another OS?
[12:04] <arvind_khadri> Rakeer, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid type this for uuid
[12:04] <tghy> Help!
[12:04] <pajamian> Exlax: you have a lot of windows or tabs open in FireFox?
[12:04] <Exlax> pajamian: No, firefox is rarely open
[12:04] <spike1> problem: mythtv, no sound. MPlayer/kdetv/tvtime... I get sound... but not if I try to capture using mencoder or streamer.
[12:05] <bazhang> tghy, what is it
[12:05] <tghy> Does anyone used Ekiga + v4l2 and had a problem with not supported color format?
[12:05] <Malwir> ROMFLMPO
[12:05] <Exlax> but for some reason i've always felt like firefox was responsible, it always seems to happen right after i close firefox.
[12:05] <Exlax> and firefox is the only app that just won't start at all
[12:05] <Exlax> this doesn't happen on 7.10, at all.
[12:05] <pajamian> FireFox is a known memory hog.
[12:05] <Malwir> pajamian, maybe it's the user that is the memory hog
[12:06] <spike1> my card is a bt849a based MM100PCTV... and I'm tearing my hair out trying to get this to work
[12:06] <pajamian> Exlax: have you tried disabling compiz?
[12:06] <xukun> hi all. when I connect my usb disk it does not show on the desktop. I have to mount it every time to /media/usb.
[12:06] <Exlax> pajamian: yes, same thing happens, that was my first guess
[12:06] <sandhya> arvind_khadri, wifi still does'nt work ..
[12:06] <sandhya> :-)
[12:07] <pajamian> Exlax: hrmmmm, ok, well, I would keep an eye on system monitor and see what else seems to be using a lot of memory and try disabling that.
[12:07] <chris062689> -.
[12:07] <chris062689> ........
[12:07] <Exlax> pajamian: i have, nothing ever comes close to using the full 2.7 allocated gb
[12:07] <bazhang> tghy, which webcam
[12:07] <pajamian> Exlax: hrmmmmm, maybe you have some bad RAM, have you tried running memcheck?
[12:08] <Exlax> pajamian: I did, 15 hours, 12 passes, 0 errors
[12:08] <pajamian> Exlax: heh, ok, well I'm sorry to say, you've already exhausted all my ideas.
[12:08] <Exlax> pajamian: thanks for the help though, do you think it would be of any worth to try 64bit?
[12:08] <pajamian> Exlax: don't know, it's worth a try if you don't mind the time it takes to install it.
[12:09] <tghy> bazhang: Logitech for Notebooks Pro 2007
[12:09] <Exlax> pajamian: I guess i will, nobody seems to really have a clue whats causing it
[12:09] <Exlax> Thanks for the help
[12:09] <pajamian> Exlax: yeah, sorry that I couldn't help further.
[12:09] <Exlax> s'all good
[12:10] <Malwir> how do I install the GIMP
[12:10] <chris062689> sudo apt-get install gimp
[12:10] <chris062689> But it should already be included if your running Ubuntu GNOME
[12:10] <spike1> or just use synaptic
[12:11] <darjeeling> haha =)
[12:11] <Vourdex> This is so annoying, how do I copy from my interal drive to my external drive it wont let me do anything. Please help. I dont even know how to use this and I really need these files. Thx
[12:12] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4631648&postcount=24 tghy check this
[12:12] <Malwir> what do I do if my GIMP has already lost its kernel support, should I reinstall the source????
[12:12] <tghy> bazhang: Thx
[12:13] <erUSUL> Malwir: sudo apt-get install gimp (but is installed by default afaik). Btw is almost impossible that a userspace app lost "kernel support"
[12:13] <erUSUL> Malwir: whatever that means anyway
[12:14] <Vourdex> When I am using file manager and I right click on the file on my internal drive and click copy and then go to sda1 in file manager and right click in folder to paste its grayed out, please help
[12:14] <spike1> what errors is gimp giving if you type gimp into a terminal?
[12:14] <darjeeling> is there anyone who use renderman in ubuntu?
[12:14] <bdunlap> Malwir, i'd contact the kernel team, or the gimp team, or someone. they should fix that. Losing kernel support is like losing a limb.
[12:14] <tghy> bazhang: Sorry. Thats not enough. I have next: uvc, v4l2, ekiga and working webcam in luvcview. But i want work that webcam in Ekiga and its not going to
[12:15] <tghy> bazhang: Ekiga giving me error with not supported color format
[12:15] <bazhang> tghy, did you run the commands in those links and match them up?
[12:15] <spike1> as a few more people've joined, I'll try again...
[12:16] <spike1> Hello... need some help... anyone know anything about video tuner cards?
[12:16] <spike1> problem: mythtv, no sound. MPlayer/kdetv/tvtime... I get sound... but not if I try to capture using mencoder or streamer.
[12:16] <spike1> my card is a bt849a based MM100PCTV... and I'm tearing my hair out trying to get this to work
[12:16] <bullgard4> What is the function of inetd?
[12:17] <Malwir> ok but gimp still has the error
[12:17] <spike1> what error?
[12:17] <spike1> inetd is an added security layer
[12:17] <spike1> rather than hang programs directly off the network, it acts as a buffer
[12:18] <tghy> bazhang: luvcview -d /dev/video1 and i see myself. Ekiga + uvcvideo + v4l2 pt plugin + Logitech webcam = error.
[12:18] <spike1> with added permissions and things (you can block or allow by ip address or protocol with it)
[12:18] <Malwir> gtk kernel io, insufficient permissions
[12:18] <bullgard4> spike1: Thank you for explaining.
[12:19] <bazhang> lsmod | grep uvc run that in terminal tghy and paste results to paste.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <tghy> bazhang: http://paste.org.ru/?e2duja
[12:20] <Sorcererbob> in the terminal, how do I grep a text file? (a log file)
[12:20] <Malwir> ok now the gray gimp window won't respond, but gives the same message
[12:20] <spike1> what do you want to grep for?
[12:20] <Malwir> I should grep it?
[12:21] <spike1> no, that was to Sorcererbob
[12:21] <bazhang> lsusb | grep Logitech tghy what does that return
[12:21] <Sorcererbob> spike1, lets say the file was called maillog.log and I wanted to find "SMTP"
[12:21] <Sorcererbob> as in, print all the lines with "SMTP" in them
[12:21] <spike1> grep SMTP /var/log/maillog.log
[12:21] <Sorcererbob> oh that easy? awesome. thanks
[12:21] <spike1> various useful switches too
[12:21] <tghy> bazhang: http://paste.org.ru/?iw8jn4
[12:22] <Sorcererbob> yeah, i thoguht it would be "some command | grep SMTP"
[12:22] <spike1>  -i (ignore case) -v (invert search... i.e. search for everything that ISN'T SMTP), -r (recurse into directories)
[12:22] <guestguestnew> how do i name a disk? gparted doesn't let you..
[12:22] <Malwir> ok I grep the gimp and now my terminal is not responding at all, gimp is still frozen
[12:22] <Dillizar> i have a problem i cant install one update
[12:22] <spike1> you can use cat maillog.log | grep SMTP
[12:22] <spike1> but grep can do it by itself
[12:23] <bdunlap> Malwir, I've heard the only way to reset GIMP configuration is to format your home partition, and do a partial reinstall with the live CD. remount the clean partition in the emergency environment and copy the home folder back over.
[12:23] <Sorcererbob> ok, I'll read up on the cat function too. I imagine its useful for other things too because I've seen it referenced. thanks again spike1
[12:23] <bazhang> sudo ls /dev/vid* returns what tghy
[12:23] <spike1> bdunlap sorry, that's rubbish
[12:23] <guestguestnew> how do i name a disk? gparted doesn't let you..
[12:23] <spike1> you don't need to format your home partition
[12:23] <tghy> bazhang: /dev/video1 and /dev/video0
[12:23] <spike1> for ANY reason
[12:24] <Malwir> bdunlap, ok so how do i format it
[12:24] <bdunlap> spike, ok sorry. im pretty new to linux.
[12:24] <bazhang> bdunlap, no.
[12:24] <spike1> if you want to reset the gimp's settings...
[12:24] <spike1> just delete the .gimp-2.4 directory
[12:24] <spike1> rm -r .gimp-2.4
[12:24] <bazhang> bdunlap, never suggest that here.
[12:25] <Malwir> ok I have partition editor, right?
[12:25] <bdunlap> bazhang, im sorry i was just trying to help.
[12:25] <spike1> Malwir
[12:25] <spike1> forget everything bdunlap said
[12:25] <spike1> do not format your home partition
[12:25] <spike1> don't even think about it
[12:25] <Dillizar> i have a problem i cant install one update
[12:25] <spike1> what error?
[12:26] <xukun> when I copy a directory I get this error. "cp: failed to preserve ownership for `/media/usb/.mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default': Operation not permitted" Any idea?
[12:26] <bazhang> tghy, then you need to install xawtv
[12:26] <tghy> bazhang: I have it.
[12:26] <jrib> xukun: what's the current ownership on it?
[12:26] <bdunlap> i dont understand what is a .gimp-2.4 directory, where is it?
[12:26] <xukun> jrib, how can I see that?
[12:26] <bazhang> xawtv -c /dev/video0 tghy
[12:26] <spike1> in your home directory, bdunlap
[12:26] <spike1>  .  files are hidden normally
[12:27] <spike1> they show up with ls -a
[12:27] <jrib> bdunlap: view -> show hidden files in your HOME.  It is: ~/.gimp-2.4/
[12:27] <spike1> they hold configuration data for different programs
[12:27] <jrib> spike1: don't use enter to break up your thoughts as it makes it harder to follow what you are saying
[12:27] <Malwir> if i repartitioned like bdunlap said , would it get rid of .gimp24 folder too?
[12:27] <spike1> ok
[12:27] <bdunlap> hidden. ohhh i was going to say... all i see is Desktop, Documents, Pictures, etc.
[12:27] <jrib> xukun: ls -ld /media/usb/.mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default
[12:27] <tghy> bazhang: xawtv -c /dev/video1 and i see myself
[12:27] <bdunlap> why are folders hidden?
[12:28] <spike1> malwir, do NOT format your PARTITION
[12:28] <Malwir> yeah if it's hidden, then that means I can't find it, right?
[12:28] <tghy> Format it
[12:28] <jrib> bdunlap: anything that starts with a '.' is hidden.  The reason is so they don't clutter your view of what really matters: your data (pictures, docs, etc.).
[12:28] <bdunlap> malwir, show hidden files shows it.
[12:28] <jrib> Malwir: hidden, really just means, "out of your way"
[12:28] <bdunlap> jrib, makes sense. but why wouldn't they be in /usr/share or something?
[12:28] <bazhang> tghy, did you set v4l2 as plugin in ekiga
[12:28] <jrib> bazhang: because they are your user's settings
[12:29] <bazhang> jrib, what?
[12:29] <Malwir> bdunlap, maybe i should move the hidden files to /usr/share ???
[12:29] <tghy> bazhang: Yes.
[12:29] <jrib> bazhang: bah
[12:29] <bazhang> heh
[12:29] <jrib> bdunlap: because they are your user's settings
[12:29] <bdunlap> malwir, that would make sense to me. but i wonder if it could be automaticly done.
[12:30] <bazhang> tghy, so your color is just really dark? you said that the cam works now correct? is there an error otherwise
[12:30] <spike1> Malwir, stop fiddlin with things you don't understand, the hidden files are in your home directory because they hold the settings for all YOUR programs
[12:30] <jrib> Malwir: your user doesn't have write permissions there.  Trust me, leave things as they are :)
[12:31] <Aquahallic> folks.... does linux have anything that'd be comparable to MS Sharepoint?
[12:31] <spike1> what's sharepoint?
[12:31] <bdunlap> spike1, but isn't malwir's gimp frozen or broken or something?
[12:31] <bazhang> !equivalents | Aquahallic check here
[12:31] <Malwir> Aquahallic, bittorrent can beuseful to share things
[12:31] <spike1> yes, but all he needs to do is delete one directory (folder in windows parlance)
[12:31] <xukun> jrib, the file I want to copy is on home dir. and it has my username as owner
[12:31] <tghy> bazhang: xawtv -c /dev/video1 work fine. But Ekiga wont show myself! And giving me damn error!
[12:32] <jrib> xukun: can you paste the output from the command?
[12:32] <Aquahallic> Sharepoint does orgchart structure and let's you "share" information among co-workers just to name a few
[12:32] <bdunlap> as a note of caution, the command "rm -r" is very dangerous, please use with caution
[12:32] <andycan> I can no longer burn iso's with groisofs, it gives me " "/dev/dvd=IMAGE1.iso": unexpected errno:No such file or directory" /dev/dvd does not exist anymore either, theres /dev/dvd1 and /dev/dvdrw
[12:32] <Malwir> if i delete a folder when the program is running, wouldn't that wreck my hard drive?
[12:32] <bdunlap> i learned that the hard way
[12:33] <xukun> ls -ld .mozilla-thunderbird/
[12:33] <xukun> drwx------ 3 xukun xukun 136 2007-09-14 13:16 .mozilla-thunderbird
[12:33] <spike1> sounds like you've lost file from dev
[12:33] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech tghy do you see your cam here
[12:33] <bdunlap> malwir, i would think so. but i dont know.
[12:33] <jrib> xukun: that's not the command I gave :/
[12:33] <spike1> andycan. what does ls -l /dev/dvd1 give?
[12:34] <andycan> spike1: I just tried /dev/dvd1=image.iso and it worked. Though, why would it change from /dev/dvd to /dev/dvd1?
[12:34] <spike1>  /dev/dvd is normally just a symbolic link to the real block device
[12:34] <xukun> jrib, ls -ld .mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default/
[12:34] <xukun> drwx------ 6 xukun xukun 944 2008-08-29 13:28 .mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default/
[12:34] <andycan> spike1: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-08-28 18:38 /dev/dvd1 -> scd0
[12:34] <[z]linux> how to uninstall flash player plugin in firefox and reinstall it?
[12:35] <sorsis> how do i check am i using 8.04 LTS?
[12:35] <doctorow> I've just upgraded to Hardy and the color-balance in Xine is all messed up -- supersaturated and weird-looking. Is there a panel for adjusting the colors?
[12:35] <bazhang> lsb_release -a sorsis
[12:35] <spike1> well, andycan, if you want to you could always just rename that link
[12:35] <spike1>  mv /dev/dvd1 /dev/dvd
[12:35] <backwaters> hi I have the following sound card: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01). I am running Xubuntu. I cannot get the sound to work. Did search a lot in google and tried some ideas, but so far no result. any ideas where can I get the driver?
[12:35] <sorsis> bazhang: ty
[12:35] <andycan> spike1: I think it changed when i updated my kernel
[12:35] <jrib> xukun: also not the command...
[12:35] <bazhang> np
[12:36] <tghy> bazhang: no :(
[12:36] <sorsis> bazhang: sorry for bugging you more but seems like i'm using 8.04 but what does LTS stand for?
[12:36] <tghy> bazhang: 046d:08cb
[12:36] <Paragtim_> Hi all.  Hopefully a simple question.  I am new and have set up Ubuntu on pc on the network.  I need to be able to access the files on the ubuntu pc from a windows (XP) pc.  The ubuntu pc does not show in the Windows Network Palces.  How do I access the ubuntu pc\files.
[12:36] <Paragtim_> Hi all.  Hopefully a simple question.  I am new and have set up Ubuntu on pc on the network.  I need to be able to access the files on the ubuntu pc from a windows (XP) pc.  The ubuntu pc does not show in the Windows Network Palces.  How do I access the ubuntu pc\files.
[12:36] <andycan> spike1: And it seems it has fixed the burning speed of growisofs, before i set my speed to 2.4, it would burn on 0.7 and so on.. but now it stays at constant 2.4x
[12:36] <spike1> just wish someone could help with MY problem
[12:36] <Agion> how can I remove a file program that is not installed with apt-get??
[12:36] <jrib> Agion: how was it installed?
[12:36] <bazhang> sorsis, long term support; five years for server, three years for desktop
[12:36] <doctorow> I've just upgraded to Hardy and the color-balance in Xine is all messed up -- supersaturated and weird-looking. Is there a panel for adjusting the colors?
[12:36] <jpds> !samba | Paragtim_
[12:36] <jrib> !helpme > spike1
[12:36] <guestguestnew> Paragtim_ instal samba
[12:36] <sorsis> bazhang: ty
[12:36] <tavi> someone say to me how to install flash player
[12:36] <tavi> ?
[12:37] <Agion> jrib: by downloading it from the internet
[12:37] <backwaters> hi
[12:37] <andycan> Agion: usually cd to install dir and run 'make uninstall'
[12:37] <jpds> !flash | tavi
[12:37] <jrib> tavi: visit a page that requires flash and click on the yellow bar in firefox.  badgerbadgerbadger.com for example
[12:37] <jrib> Agion: so delete the download if that's really all you did to install it
[12:37] <tavi> and tehen
[12:37] <tavi> ?
[12:37] <Paragtim_> Have install Samba and can see out to the Windows PC. But can see Ubuntu from Windows
[12:37] <tavi> then
[12:37] <xukun> jrib, there is nothing in /media/usb yet sins I can not cp the file
[12:38] <spike1> ok, I'll be back tonight then, maybe more people... or can someone suggest a channel more suited to videocapture problems?
[12:38] <Agion> jrib: it was a .deb file and I installed it by double clicking... so how can I remove it? :D
[12:38] <andycan> Anyone know what "UBU" refers to in growisofs?
[12:38] <xukun> jrib, ls -ld /media/usb/.mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default
[12:38] <xukun> ls: cannot access /media/usb/.mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default: No such file or directory
[12:38] <legend2440> Aquahallic: http://o3spaces.com/
[12:38] <backwaters> hi can you guys read my message?
[12:38] <spike1> sorry andycan, I've always used k3b
[12:39] <Pici> spike1: Perhaps you should repeat your question, I dont see it in the past 20 minutes or so
[12:39] <jrib> xukun: ah, thought you were going the other way.  Sorry about that.  What happens if you copy that directory specifically with cp?  same error?
[12:39] <bazhang> backwaters, yes
[12:39] <spike1> ok
[12:39] <jrib> tavi: and then that's it
[12:39] <backwaters> thanks bazhang
[12:39] <tghy> Im so poor
[12:39] <xukun> jrib, yes
[12:39] <spike1> anyone know anything about video tuner cards?
[12:39] <backwaters> it shows in grey in my screen, so i thought you cannot see it
[12:39] <spike1> problem: mythtv, no sound. MPlayer/kdetv/tvtime... I get sound... but not if I try to capture using mencoder or streamer.
[12:40] <[z]linux> how can i remove/uninstall flash player and install it again?
[12:40] <bazhang> spike1, another place to ask is #ubuntu-mythtv as well
[12:40] <spike1> thanks, I'll try there
[12:40] <jrib> xukun: try 'find .mozilla-thunderbird/02gaoob6.default ! -user $USER'
[12:40] <Pici> !tv | spike1 have you read this too
[12:40] <backwaters> hi anyone got this sound card to work: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 83)
[12:40] <Agion> jrib: it was a .deb file and I installed it by double clicking... so how can I remove it? :D
[12:41] <jrib> [z]linux: why?  reinstalling rarely solves anything.  In any case, the name of the package is 'flashplugin-nonfree'
[12:41] <bazhang> backwaters, did you check under sound prefs
[12:41] <doctorow> If I want to reinstall Xine, which packages should I be looking at?
[12:41] <Aquahallic> bazhang: that site ROX.... ty VERY much!
[12:41] <bazhang> backwaters, also is this your second card
[12:41] <jrib> Agion: use system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:41] <bazhang> Aquahallic, nice :)
[12:41] <Agion> jrib: thax!
[12:41] <spike1> ubottu: I have it working in tvtime/kdetv/mplayer... but not mythtv (no sound)
[12:41] <Agion> +n'
[12:41] <backwaters> bazhang, this is the only card i have
[12:41] <spike1> and capture doesn't capture the sound either... I'll nip ovewr to #ubuntu-mythtv
[12:42] <backwaters> I can see that the card is detected and I can adjust thi volume. but so sound
[12:42] <bazhang> backwaters, I would set to alsa from autodetect and see if that changes anything; also go to terminal and type alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted.
[12:42] <[z]linux> jrib: coz i think i mistakenly install a flash player plugin thats not from adobe and it doesnt work on some websites
[12:43] <ehtom> I installed the whole of ubuntu to LVM partitions (including /boot)... I want to fix this :P
[12:43] <backwaters> bazhang, checked. nothin is muted
[12:43] <bazhang> backwaters, then switch from autodetect to alsa and do the test in sound prefs
[12:43] <backwaters> bazhang, how to do that?
[12:44] <bazhang> backwaters, system prefs sound
[12:44] <backwaters> bazhang, ok checking
[12:44] <smoser> maybe someone can help. I'm on hardy.  default mount options are 'relatime'.  i want 'atime' . nothing i do can get that to take. Ie:
[12:44] <smoser> mount -o atime /dev/sda7 /mnt
[12:44] <jrib> [z]linux: what does this yield: aptitude search '~i(~n.*gnash|~n.*flash.*)'
[12:45] <jrib> [z]linux: what does this yield: aptitude search '~i(~n.*gnash.*|~n.*flash.*)'
[12:45] <smoser> $ grep /mnt /proc/mounts
[12:45] <smoser> /dev/sda7 /mnt ext3 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
[12:45] <quentusrex_lapto> How do I get apt to spit out a list of all the packages currently installed on my system?
[12:45] <jrib> quentusrex_lapto: aptitude search ~i
[12:45] <backwaters> bazhang, sorry i cannot find that menu. is it same as the settings manager? I am using Xfce.
[12:45] <backwaters> bazhang, or is there a command for it?
[12:45] <[z]linux> jrib: whats that? i will copy paste that command in terminal?
[12:46] <jrib> [z]linux: yeah
[12:46] <dinesh_> hi
[12:46] <[z]linux> jrib: nothing happens
[12:47] <bazhang> backwaters, aha, that was for gnome; not sure where it it in xubuntu
[12:47] <jrib> [z]linux: erm.  Are you sure you have *any* flash installed?  Pastebin the contents of the page displayed by your browser when you put 'about:plugins' in your address bar
[12:47] <ehtom> My /boot partition is currently a LVM volume, however this is pretty bad and I want to put /boot onto a normal partition instead... any ideas?
[12:48] <omar> Hello
[12:48] <bazhang> hi omar
[12:48] <backwaters> bazhang, ok. done. it was in the config.
[12:48] <bazhang> backwaters, it works?
[12:49] <dinesh_> new linux user plz tell me how to begin in linux, i had done work on windows
[12:49] <omar> somebody's here ?
[12:49] <bazhang> dinesh_, using ubuntu?
[12:49] <bazhang> omar yes
[12:49] <[z]linux> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/41528/
[12:49] <Pici> omar: many people are here
[12:49] <dinesh_> bazhang:yes
[12:49] <backwaters> bazhang, no it doesnt
[12:49] <sorsis> dinesh_: lern few words first, "howto", man, reference and help
[12:49] <bazhang> dinesh_, what is your question
[12:50] <sorsis> dinesh_: ubuntu forums are quite good information sources for your most problems at start.
[12:50] <bazhang> backwaters, sorry, dont know much about xubuntu settings; you can ask others here and post a message in #xubuntu as well
[12:50] <jrib> [z]linux: oh, I missed one :)  How about: locate libswfdecmozilla.so
[12:50] <backwaters> bazhang, ok thanks
[12:51] <dinesh_> bazhang :actually i am a beginner in linux so i want to know from where to start and tell me abt some books and websites
[12:51] <jrib> dinesh_: help.ubuntu.com is a great place to start
[12:51] <bazhang> dinesh_, no special problems with your ubuntu install?
[12:51] <sorsis> dinesh_: and overall it's best if you use forums as much as possible since there is a lot of answers allready given. it eats supporters time to ask same questions million time in irc
[12:52] <sorsis> dinesh_: but for starters it might be easier for you to ask things here since you can get a lot more undertsnding support than those CLI instructions at forums
[12:53] <dinesh_> i had already installed ubuntu i want to know from where to start because every time i open linux i donot know what to do
[12:53] <indy__> ciao a tutti
[12:53] <bazhang> dinesh_, to do what
[12:53] <bazhang> !it | indy__
[12:53] <indy__> sorry
[12:54] <bazhang> dinesh_, you really need to ask clear questions as this is a busy channel :)
[12:54] <sorsis> dinesh_: if you want to see something neat what linux is capable nowdays start to strugle with "compiz fusion" if you video card is supported. you get familiar with basics of linux and get rewarded with most sleakiest desktop any comp carries on the earth. don't forget "avant window navigator"
[12:55] <xukun> how do I change the owner ship of /media/usb from root to user xukun?
[12:55] <dinesh_> bazhang: i want to know how to play song and install softwares
[12:55] <jrib> xukun: what filesystem?
[12:55] <omar> i got a very weird problem on linux
[12:55] <indy__> hi all
[12:56] <nivek_unix> evening!! hello world!
[12:56] <omar> hello !
[12:56] <bazhang> dinesh_, install ubuntu-restricted-extras; from a terminal type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:56] <nivek_unix> where can we find virtualbox-puel version?
[12:56] <omar> text is written in a big font !
[12:56] <indy__> If I want to make a tarball and send it to an ssh address, is the syntax the following? $ tar ciccio* ciccio.tar ; scp ciccio.tar iadd@ress:
[12:56] <nesw> puel version?
[12:56] <bazhang> nivek_unix, in the repos? the ose version you mean?
[12:56] <jrib> nivek_unix: the open source version is in the repos.  If you want the closed source one, you can get it at virtualbox.org
[12:57] <nivek_unix> jrib: ose doesnt support USB's?
[12:57] <jrib> nivek_unix: right
[12:57] <nivek_unix> jrib: :( how can i use usb in ose?
[12:57] <jrib> nivek_unix: if you need usb, use the one from virtualbox.org
[12:57] <omar> on the login screen and also in xfce
[12:57] <xukun> jrib, how to I see that?
[12:57] <ehtom> cp /boot/initrd-`uname -r` .
[12:57] <jrib> xukun: type 'mount'
[12:58] <[z]linux> jrib: heres the message if i type locate libswfdecmozilla.so in terminal ---> /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so
[12:58] <ehtom> that command just 100% crashed my system
[12:58] <nivek_unix> jrib: im not sure, im not getting, what do u mean, get the one from virtualbox.org?
[12:58] <jrib> [z]linux: dpkg -S /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so
[12:58] <DjAngo23NL> Hey everyone.
[12:58] <DjAngo23NL> Whe i try to install Ubuntu nothing happen anymore at 3%
[12:58] <DjAngo23NL> Loading kernel
[12:58] <xukun> jrib, dev/sdc1 on /media/usb type vfat (rw
[12:58] <jrib> nivek_unix: virtualbox.org is a website that you can visit.  They have downloads there.  One of the downloads is for ubuntu
[12:58] <[z]linux> jrib:  heres what i get, swfdec-mozilla: /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so
[12:59] <dinesh_> sorsis :please tell me about books and websites of linux
[12:59] <nivek_unix> jrib: yes, i did download it from virtualbox.org..
[12:59] <bazhang> DjAngo23NL, did you md5 the iso, burn at low speed and do the disk integrity check
[12:59] <jrib> !rute > nivek_unix
[12:59] <jrib> nivek_unix: double click on it
[12:59] <DjAngo23NL> Disk integrety check is not possible, because you need the kernel
[12:59] <bazhang> !md5 | DjAngo23NL
[12:59] <bazhang> DjAngo23NL, md5 iso then reburn at low speed
[13:00] <DjAngo23NL> I will MD% it
[13:00] <jrib> xukun: did you plug it in after your user logged in?
[13:00] <indy__> no problems, I will provide by myself
[13:00] <indy__> see you soon
[13:00] <DjAngo23NL> Thanks bazhang
[13:00] <ehtom> cp /boot/initrd-`uname -r` . <-- that command 100% crashed my system... why?
[13:00] <xukun> jrib, yes
[13:00] <bazhang> np
[13:00] <Pici> !rute > dinesh_
[13:00] <jrib> xukun: weird, mine all get mounted as my user when I do that.  What does 'groups' return?
[13:02] <nivek_unix> jrib: what will i dbl click? im not seeing ur pm..
[13:02] <nivek_unix> can i mount the USB as a second CD/DVD?
[13:02] <jrib> nivek_unix: you said you downloaded the deb for ubuntu from virtualbox.org right?
[13:03] <nivek_unix> jrib: yes? what i see is just links of help.ubuntu.com? wiki..
[13:03] <ehtom> umm... ubuntu just crashed bigtime when I typed cp /boot/initrd-`uname -r` . into a terminal window
[13:03] <ehtom> that shouldn't happen
[13:03] <ehtom> ever
[13:03] <ehtom> anyone have any idea why it did?
[13:04] <omar> so nobody knows how i can solve my problem ?
[13:05] <sorsis> why doesn't googles "try my luck" search thingie work with my firefoxes url bar?
[13:05] <sorsis> or was it "i'm feeling lucky"
[13:05] <jrib> nivek_unix: ok let's do this one step at a time.  1. go to virtualbox.org 2. click on "Downloads" 3. click no "Binaries" 4. select Ubuntu 8.04 "(whatever your arch is)" as your platform 5. check "agree" 6. click "continue"  7. click on the .deb link to download it
[13:06] <jrib> omar: better to just repeat your question after waiting a bit.  I have no idea what your problem is
[13:06] <DjAngo23NL> bazhang: The MD5 is correct :S
[13:07] <nivek_unix> jrib: yes i did that already.. ok, ill just reinstall this.. bbiab, because last time i install it says conflict or something..
[13:07] <nivek_unix> jrib: ^^ biab...
[13:07] <omar> jrib : on the login screen and on xfce text is written in big characters ( 72 pt or sthg like that )
[13:08] <bazhang> DjAngo23NL, then I would suggest reburn at low speed
[13:09] <DjAngo23NL> Okay, you thinks it's because of the CD then.
[13:09] <bazhang> could be DjAngo23NL
[13:09] <tghy> huuuu
[13:09] <DjAngo23NL> Thanks i will try that
[13:09] <bazhang> tghy, what is it
[13:09] <jrib> nivek_unix: if you've installed virtualbox already then I don't know what your question is
[13:11] <starenka> j
[13:12] <nivek_unix> jrib: i uninstalled the virtualbox-ose 1.5.4 in the repos, and install the deb package.. installed correctly, what will i do next?
[13:13] <jrib> nivek_unix: you should be able to use it now
[13:13] <nicko> evening
[13:13] <nesw> morning
[13:13] <nivek_unix> there should be an icon in applications > Systems .. ?
[13:14] <jrib> nivek_unix: system tools