[14:02] <AceOfSpaces> I was told by someone on a forum to update to a newer version of alsa.. How do I do that?
[14:03] <GHOST> HI
[14:03] <IndyGunFreak> AceOfSpaces: what prob ar eyou having
[14:03] <blazemonger> poh sco the scrollkeeper parser keeper stuff is a PHP bug
[14:03] <blazemonger> geez
[14:04] <AceOfSpaces> IndyGunFreak: My laptop doesn't detect a headphone plugged in.. The audio is always through internal speakers
[14:04] <GHOST> is anybody now why firefox crash with the flash pluging?
[14:04] <IndyGunFreak> AceOfSpaces: no clue on that one, sorr
[14:04] <AceOfSpaces> Okay, so how do I update alsa?
[14:04] <MrHippocampus> AceOfSpaces: what sound card do you have?
[14:04] <GHOST> Hello,anybody now why firefox crash with the flash pluging :(  ?
[14:05] <newman> how do i install ophcrack ?
[14:05] <AceOfSpaces> MrHippocampus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:05] <crush_groove> !flash
[14:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:05] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:05] <GHOST> ubotu ok tank u
[14:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok tank u - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:05] <crush_groove> ;)
[14:06] <crush_groove> laffs
[14:06] <IndyGunFreak> !intelhda | AceOfSpaces
[14:06] <ubotu> AceOfSpaces: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[14:07] <newman> how do i install ophcrack on gnome ?
[14:07] <IndyGunFreak> newman: is it in the repositories?
[14:07] <IndyGunFreak> and what does it do?
[14:07] <IdleOne> newman: sudo apt-get install ophcrack
[14:08] <IdleOne> !info ophcrack
[14:08] <ubotu> ophcrack: Microsoft Windows password cracker using rainbow tables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.4~debian-1 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 228 kB
[14:08] <SAngeli> Can someone please explain what is about these repositories? "Gutsy  Feisty  Edgy  Dapper  " I am reading reference from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources  and od not know/understand what to choose.
[14:08] <IndyGunFreak> SAngeli: are you havng repository problems
[14:08] <IdleOne> SAngeli: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:08] <newman> indyGunFreak:this verison does not have that so i downloaded oph od there website
[14:08] <bazhang> SAngeli: the concept?
[14:09] <AceOfSpaces> IndyGunFreak: But why is the latest version not there in repositories?
[14:09] <IndyGunFreak> newman: well, i'm not gonna help you install it... you'll have to figure that out on your own
[14:09] <SAngeli> latest version. Yes, what each one means to understand which to choose from
[14:09] <IndyGunFreak> AceOfSpaces: i really don't know, i've talked 2-3 people through compiling it just overnight tonight.
[14:09] <IndyGunFreak> it seems pretty common.
[14:09] <crush_groove> wonders why the bot even has that on it
[14:09] <SAngeli> example: what Gutsy mean and is for? Do I need it? How to understand?
[14:10] <IndyGunFreak> SAngeli: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[14:10] <LjLR> crush_groove: why wouldn't it? it's an Ubuntu package, in the official Universe component.
[14:10] <newman> can anyone else tell me how to install ophcrack on gnome ?
[14:10] <SAngeli> 7.10
[14:10] <udan> i have 760 MB of RAM and Nvidia GeForce MX 4000 when i activate 3D effect it freeze desktop Why?
[14:10] <bazhang> SAngeli: gutsy is the latest release of ubuntu--you need its software sources to keep it up to date
[14:10] <IndyGunFreak> SAngeli: ok, so thats Ubuntu Gutsy
[14:10] <LjLR> newman: sudo apt-get install ophcrack, or use Synaptic
[14:10] <LjLR> !software > newman    (newman, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:11] <bazhang> newman: repeating your question quickly will yield no better results
[14:11] <IdleOne> SAngeli: Gutsy = 7.10 it is a codename
[14:11] <SAngeli> I see.
[14:11] <crush_groove> LjL,  I guess I just get a lil confused when sum1 asks about Ares and you get a piracy chastisement and then you can get help for a pw cracker .. I get the fact that if its offered in the repo its OK . just seems a lil backwards to me
[14:11] <SAngeli> Now I understand why they write a release number next to it
[14:11] <SAngeli> ok.
[14:11] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[14:11] <AceOfSpaces2> IndyGunFreak: But I don't know how to uninstall it if something goes wrong
[14:11] <SAngeli> thanks for now. Let me keep reading
[14:12] <IndyGunFreak> aceofSpacesusually sudo make uninstall in the source directory
[14:12] <basvg> hmm... eog doesn't show the thumbs of a bunch of images in a directory. ANy idea why that is?
[14:12] <newman> this verison og gnome does not have apt-get command, but i have the zip of ophcrack, so do i install it ?
[14:12] <LjLR> crush_groove, it depends really. few things are illegal per se - but if you state that you're going to use them for illegal purposes, you're unlikely to get help here
[14:12] <bazhang> eog is less than optimal? basvg
[14:13] <komputes> Which log can I check to see at what time my computer was shut down?
[14:13] <basvg> bazhang: is it? thumb also doesn't show the thumbs
[14:13] <IdleOne> newman: you running ubuntu?
[14:13] <crush_groove> LjL,  understood
[14:13] <GHOST> lol i forgot tat ubotu was a bot!
[14:13] <bazhang> basvg: f-spot is my choice
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> f-spot is pretty good
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> !info f-spot
[14:14] <ubotu> f-spot: personal photo management application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1729 kB, installed size 8924 kB
[14:14] <GHOST> ubotu thats right :)
[14:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thats right :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:14] <basvg> hmm, might try that. But still, this ought not be a problem for the standard gnome tools
[14:14] <IndyGunFreak> actually you should have f-sot with a base install, its installed w/ a new install.
[14:15] <LjLR> komputes, grepping "exiting on signal" in /var/log/messages should work, although i suppose there might be something more specific somewhere else
[14:15] <basvg> hmm, guess my ~/.thumbnails is/was borked
[14:15] <newman> idleOne:no, am running gnome
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[14:15] <vincenz> Is it safe to install the latest updates?
[14:15] <pidginDutch> i try again
[14:15] <lardarse> vincenz: is it safe not to?
[14:16] <bazhang> dont repeat your question quickly fb3
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: usually
[14:16] <pidginDutch> !restricted
[14:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:16] <IndyGunFreak> pidginDutch: whats the problem
[14:16] <vincenz> Well the issue is... I installed a new hd, two days ago.  (I had gutsy on my old system which worked fine).  Installed from livecd lts, then did an upgrade to edgy, feisty then gutsy.  Then it said about a partial upgrade I had to do, I did that, and suddenly I could not use X anymore.  So I had to download the installcd of gutsy and now installed it. I'm afraid if I now install the updates, my system will fuck up again
[14:17] <newman> i have ophcrack zip file how do i install it ?
[14:17] <pidginDutch> just checking the new how to on resticted, whats new ...
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: uh, why not just download a Gutsy CD and avoid all that?
[14:17] <lardarse> vincenz: have you tried a new install from gutsy?
[14:17] <LjLR> newman, you really don't listen, do you? ophcrack *IS IN THE REPOSITORIES*. do NOT install it from any ZIP file.
[14:17] <komputes> LjLR: I did cat /var/log/messages and theres only one line "restart" which is when i logged in today
[14:17] <LjLR> !packages | newman
[14:17] <ubotu> newman: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[14:17] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: I had downloaded the wrong cd back then?
[14:17] <bazhang> newman: unzip it and then follow the install instructions inside
[14:17] <vincenz> lardarse: I did, but now am afraid that instlaling updates from net will once more bork X
[14:17] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: ok, all that time you spent updating, etc, you could have probably downloaded, burned and installed gutsy fresh about 2-3x
[14:18] <blazemonger> http://rafb.net/p/HrapwJ32.html
[14:18] <vincenz> I'd log into gdm, and then get gnome, the bars at top and bottom would flash a few times and then dissapear
[14:18] <LjLR> komputes, logs are rotated daily, so the actual shutdown could be in /var/log/messages.0 or /var/log/messages.1.gz (depending on when you shut it down)
[14:18] <lardarse> vincenz: i clean install with the latest version will work better than an upgrade
[14:18] <blazemonger> IndyGunFreak: that scrollkeeper error i was told it was php error not scrollkeeper
[14:18] <udan> i have 760 MB of RAM and Nvidia GeForce MX 4000 when i activate 3D effect it freeze desktop Why?
[14:18] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: well that was actually my second install, I had done a debootstrap before, couldn't get grub to work after swapping HDs, and then someone ini here told me to use livecd
[14:18] <tim167> hello, i have a cdrom with errors on it, how can i recover from it what's still readable ? the errors are 'I/O error' on ubuntu, and 'crc check failed' on windows...thanks
[14:18] <newman> bazhang:i did it didnt work
[14:18] <lardarse> !info ophcrack
[14:18] <ubotu> ophcrack: Microsoft Windows password cracker using rainbow tables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.4~debian-1 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 228 kB
[14:19] <vincenz> So I'm wary of installing updates
[14:19] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: so you have two hard drives now..d o you plan to use both of them, or what?
[14:19] <bazhang> newman: it didnt work or you didnt follow the instructions correctly?
[14:19] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: one is dying
[14:19] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: ok, do you dualboot?
[14:19] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: not anymoore
[14:19] <IndyGunFreak> then grub shouldn't be an issue, let Ubuntu have the whole drive, and it will put grub on the mbr
[14:20] <luckybamboo> i want to install fonts for all users globally. that is why i installed the ttf-files: sudo cp /mnt/data/ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype and did a fc-cache -f. but starting OpenOffice the fonts are not available.
[14:20] <luckybamboo> what could be the reason?
[14:20] <SAngeli> I followed instruction on how to update and expand repos and got errors which I posted in paste. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49416/  Can someone tell me if I just need to remove those repos that gave me errors?
[14:20] <rever> Hi I have a .dv file donwloaded from my camcorder. Is there any program I can install that will convert it to a 1080p mpeg4?
[14:20] <komputes> LjLR, great, that did it. I take it messages is recycled daily and appended to messages.0, but then messages.0 can contain many days/lines before it spools off to messages.1 .2 and so on, correct?
[14:20] <bazhang> SAngeli: which repos?
[14:21] <rever> at the very least convert it to mpeg?
[14:21] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: Well, since I couldn't get that to work and someone said "why don't you do it simple and use livecd!" I did the livecd thing, that borked X, then I got the gutsy inistallcd, installed, it's working fine now, but like I said, wary that updating will leave the system to the same state after the upgrade I did from LTs
[14:21] <SAngeli> bazhang: look at the url link
[14:21] <bazhang> SAngeli: I cant load that page for some reason
[14:21] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: so you have gutsy now.. is it a clean install of gutsy, or one you've upgraded to?
[14:21] <vincenz> clean install
[14:21] <dubiago> has anyone had the problem of, after updating vlc, the volume controls disappear?
[14:21] <SAngeli> bazhang: "Enabling Extra Repositories"
[14:21] <tim167> how can I recover files from a cdrom with 'I/O errors' on it?, some files are still readable, others are not, but i need a way to read them. copying with filemanager requires me to click 'Skip' for each bad file, which is not doable...thanks!
[14:21] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: you should be fine..
[14:22] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: *should*..
[14:22] <bazhang> SAngeli: which repos gave you errors
[14:22] <blazemonger> how do i fix scrollkeeper parser errors?
[14:22] <SAngeli> bazhang: If you cannot see the link, I try to paste here some: Err http://archive.canonical.com gutsy-commercial/main Packages                  404 Not Found
[14:22] <SAngeli> Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com gutsy/free Packages                             404 Not Found  Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com gutsy/non-free Packages                         404 Not Found  Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com gutsy/free Sources                              404 Not Found
[14:22] <LjL> komputes: to be honest, i don't entirely know how the rotation is scheduled
[14:23] <udan> i have 760 MB of RAM and Nvidia GeForce MX 4000 when i activate 3D effect it freeze desktop Why?
[14:23] <udan> help
[14:23] <SAngeli> bazhang: you cannot see this?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49416/
[14:23] <IndyGunFreak> SAngeli: i've never saw that medibuntu.sos repository
[14:23] <bazhang> SAngeli: the medibuntu ones? which packages did you want to install?
[14:23] <IndyGunFreak> ever
[14:23] <komputes> does anyone have a good guide on which files to backup and how to restore them when doing a clean install?
[14:23] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: right  but I don't want to ris another install
[14:24] <SAngeli> Besides, I got these info from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[14:24] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: I still don't get why it behaved that way, it wasn't gnome  since if I used wmaker, that'd simply quit back out ot gdm
[14:24] <SAngeli> where it said to just cut and paste what is there for Gutsy
[14:24] <bazhang> SAngeli: go to www.medibuntu.org and set it up there
[14:24] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: i really don't know, i would think you should be fine, but no way to know w/o trying.  if X fails again, jsut run the reconfigure x command, and see if that fixes the prob
[14:25] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: thx for tip
[14:25]  * vincenz tries
[14:25] <bazhang> SAngeli: what packages do you want from medibuntu?
[14:25] <blazemonger> Dear Eris, please fix scrollkeeper
[14:25] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: just remember, if you do end up reconfiguring X.., take generic defaults, to get you back to the GUI, then worry about setting up drivers, etc.
[14:25] <SAngeli> bazhang: it is not that I want a specific package. It is that I am trying to expand the choice of packages available so that I can pick and try
[14:25] <DaveMck> evening :D
[14:26] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: this i the command you'll need if X fails after the update...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:26] <IndyGunFreak> and remember, generic defaults
[14:26] <SAngeli> bazhang: I am having troubles with adobe flash under firefox where first of all it is at ver. 7  second I cannot hear sound
[14:26] <bazhang> SAngeli: best to play it safe in that regard--if you dont explicitly need a repo, then best not to enable it--I got two packages from medibuntu without using their repos
[14:26] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: ok
[14:26] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: well purginig and reinstalling it didn't do anything
[14:26] <LjL> komputes: good? afraid not. the official page is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem though. in a nutshell though, you usually want to back up 1) /home 2) /etc 3) /usr/local 4) /opt 5) /srv if things were like they're supposed to be, but /var/www in actuality. you would also want to save your list of installed packages, so that you can reinstall the same packages again without hunting for them. you want to restore all the directories i
[14:26] <LjL> mentioned, most likely, except /etc, which you might restore on an as-needed basis, especially if you're upgrading to a newer distribution.
[14:27] <SAngeli> I see
[14:27] <IndyGunFreak> purging and reinstalling what?
[14:27] <bazhang> SAngeli: did you read the channel topic? regarding flash that is
[14:27] <IndyGunFreak> oh, purging and reinstalling Gnome?
[14:27] <LjL> komputes: just remember it's pretty important to preserve permissions when you back up... i guess most backup utilíties will do that for you, but if you just use "cp" manually, use "cp -a --preserve=all"
[14:27] <blazemonger> IndyGunFreak: do i need to reinstall Ubuntu?
[14:27] <blazemonger> to fix the scrollkeeper parser error?
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> blazemonger: i have told you like 10 gazillion times, i don't know anything about that error, yet you keep repeating it to me.. I DO NOT KNOW
[14:28] <|thunder> hey all, whats the easiest way to search for files with a "containing text" constraint ? like, search the text IN the file.
[14:28] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: xorg-server
[14:28] <vincenz> erm
[14:28] <vincenz> xserver-xorg
[14:28] <komputes> LjL do you keep a file of custom packages, or does synaptic keep one for you?
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: are you at a GUI now/
[14:28] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: yep
[14:28] <SAngeli> bazhang: yea, I read about. I know flash is at ver. 9 but I have 7. I am able to view but not hear and question if it has anything to do with perhaps settings I do not know
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: ok, do your updates.
[14:28] <pa> is it possible to install ipcop on ubuntu?
[14:28] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: doing so
[14:28] <blazemonger> IndyGunFreak: I apologize
[14:29] <|thunder> SAngeli; where is your flash plugin located ?
[14:29] <LjL> komputes: see the private messages you have got from ubotu - Synaptic (APT, actually) keeps a list for you, and you can dump it to a text file (and then use that text file as input later). I guess Synaptic might have similar functionality, but i only know the CLI way, as ubotu has it
[14:29] <blazemonger> Anyone else here know anything about scrollkeeper
[14:29] <DaveMck> got something of a newbie question, i think :D i'm trying to get a RAID partition to mount on startup
[14:29] <SAngeli> |thunder: I do not know
[14:29] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: if when you restart, it fails on restart, you'll boot to a CLI.., then run that sudo dpkg reconfigure command i gave you... and just take generic defaults, that should ge tyou back toa  GUI, then you should be able to setup any special drivers you have.
[14:29] <vincenz> right
[14:30]  * vincenz only has the restricted ATI ones, and those weren't there after that long upgrade frm LTs, since it was a clean install
[14:30] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: the key when running reconfigure, its generic defaults... if you have an ATI card, don't choose ati, or nvidia if you have nvidia, just choose vesa, and let it boot a generic driver, then when you get the GUI, you can set it up(at least that always works for me)
[14:30] <vincenz> IndyGunFreak: switching xorg.conf to 'vesa' did not fix the problem the other day
[14:30] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger, the errors you are getting in scrollkeeper really arent critical and you probably woldnt realise if ubuntu didnt notify you of the errors. If you are desparate to get rid of them, reinstall ubuntu.
[14:30] <|thunder> SAngeli; thats the problem then. get the latest zip from adobe for linux, its 9.0.115, and copy libflashplayer.so (i think it is) to /home/*yourname*/.mozilla/plugins
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: how did you switch it?
[14:31] <|thunder> SAngeli; restart firefox and you should be golden
[14:31] <DaveMck> i can get the drive to mount myself, manually, but i'm struggling to get it to mount automatically on startup
[14:31] <noodles12> i have a dell 700m running on gutsy w/ an intel graphics card. I had problems withplaying video and suspending so i installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and the video was fixed but now my suspend and hibernate buttons disappeared from the thing for the button at the top right... ( used to have suspend, shutdown, restart, hibernate)
[14:32] <IndyGunFreak> vincenz: gotta go... good luck.
[14:32] <IndyGunFreak> later all.
[14:32] <SAngeli> bazhang: best of all, is it good idea to remove all those repos where I get those errors and live what I currently have as shown here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49417/
[14:32] <vincenz> ikonia: thx
[14:32] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus: What is the cause of it?
[14:32] <SAngeli> |thunder: let me thy
[14:32] <blazemonger> remove the updates?
[14:32] <pidginDutch> can the intel i810 video card have 3D accel?
[14:32] <bazhang> SAngeli: better to play it safe until you understand the system workings better
[14:33] <blazemonger> yup pidginDutch
[14:33] <blazemonger> i use a intel i810 card
[14:33] <SAngeli> bazhang: so, what to do then, at this point? Did you look at the link? Can I keep what I currently have, which runs fine?
[14:33] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: i have no idea, it looks like something screwed up the xml in a scrollkeeper file and now its invalid xml, unless you want learn the format of the file and fix the errors yourself, the only other way would be to reinstall
[14:33] <blazemonger> i've reinstalled 4 times
[14:34] <blazemonger> it happens when i install the updates
[14:34] <blazemonger> libpng causes it to screw up
[14:34] <bazhang> SAngeli: remove those repositories first as a source, and barring anything major, carry on
[14:34] <DaveMck> so... if anyone's got any ideas. I've tried just adding the partition to /etc/fstab, but it craps out because the md service isn't running at that point.
[14:34] <SAngeli> ok
[14:34] <pidginDutch> blazemonger is that an onboard ( i have it on a dell optiplex gx110
[14:34] <blazemonger> and in apparmor
[14:35] <bullgard4> What do the square brackets mean in the sleep.sh output line "++ '[' -x /etc/acpi/resume.d/85-anacron.sh ']'"?
[14:35] <blazemonger> pidginDutch: its on a ibm thinkcentre
[14:35] <pidginDutch> ok
[14:35] <bazhang> SAngeli: good idea to keep backed up though--just in case :}
[14:35] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: then your just going to have to accept it, as I said preivously, the errors are very unlikely to cause any problems
[14:35] <pidginDutch> did it work out of the box?
[14:35] <SAngeli> yes
[14:35] <komputes> !automate
[14:35] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[14:35] <manal>  hi
[14:36] <manal>  i cant install my webcam
[14:36] <manal>  who can help me
[14:36] <manal>  my camera is JVC GC-A50
[14:36] <LjL> !enter | manal
[14:36] <blazemonger> libpng causes scrollkeeper parser errors(in the updates and apparmor causes it too
[14:36] <ubotu> manal: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:36] <LjL> !webcam > manal    (manal, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:37] <Zionad_> I have a network at my house in which i set up one computer (from hereon called computer A) as a DHCP Server for netbooting. I have recently deleted dhcp3-server from computer A but the rest of my network is STILL trying to connect to computer A for an IP address, when they try to connect to computer a, they get some false Ip address and do not gain access to the inter net. They DO connect to the router and get the proper IP address
[14:37] <Zionad_>  ONLY when computer A is not on the network. How do i stop Computer A from giving out IPS and how do i stop the other computers from connection to computer A
[14:37] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus: : it happens on the exact same two updates every time i reinstall..libpng and apparmor
[14:37] <LjL> komputes, do you need to compress the stuff you back up (for instance to put it on a CD)? it makes a difference whether you do or don't. if you don't, you can just use "cp", otherwise "gzip" or a dedicated backup utility might be a better choice
[14:38] <TheEagle> Zionad_: im not sure about this - but have you tried setting up the other computer's ip addresses manually?
[14:38] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: if you really feel that strongly about it, file a bug on launchpad
[14:38] <komputes> LjL: if I don't tar.gz, the permissions will be gone...right?
[14:38] <TheEagle> Zionad_: what os are the computers using?
[14:38] <Zionad_> TheEagle: yes, sometimes the choose to use what i have put in, sometimes they still look at computer A for an IP
[14:39] <Zionad_> TheEagle: Both ubuntu and windows
[14:39] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus:  is it php causing it?
[14:39] <komputes> Ljbecause CD is ISO9660 and no permissions are allowed on CD's
[14:39] <LjL> komputes: if you backup to a non-POSIX filesystem (such as to a CD if you aren't careful with wodim/cdrecord), yes.
[14:39] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: I have no idea
[14:39] <hasssna> how do i set up my internet connection with ubuntu
[14:39] <komputes> LjL thanks
[14:39] <TheEagle> Zionad_: so each computer is running both windows and ubuntu?
[14:39] <J_Laptop> with iso format, you need to enable rockridge
[14:39] <LjL> komputes: well, the RockRidge extensions can be used to implement permissions. But i do believe it would be better to make a tar
[14:39] <J_Laptop> then it'll hold your permissions, at least to some extent
[14:39] <Zionad_> TheEagle: sorry no, 1 i on windows, and about 4 are on ubuntu
[14:40] <DaveMck> wow, its freaking busy in here
[14:40] <J_Laptop> I think rockridge will still take out the "w" permission
[14:40] <komputes> LjL: I thing tar is testted and true, so i'll stay oldschool
[14:40] <SAngeli> |thunder: I am unable to find the adobe zip file. I can only find http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash but the tar does not work. Can you help me finding this file, please?
[14:40] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus: so keep reinstalling until it decides to actually stop spamming me w/ scrollkeeper
[14:40] <|thunder> how do i do a 'contains text' file search ?
[14:40] <LjL> komputes: no reason not to.
[14:40] <|thunder> SAngeli; sry, thats what you want
[14:40] <|thunder> SAngeli; the tar.gz
[14:40] <TheEagle> Zionad_: which os is Computer A running
[14:40] <|thunder> SAngeli; my bad
[14:40] <LjL> |thunder: i think Tracker can do that, and faster than other methods if your files have been indexed by it (which they should be, if you're on Gutsy)
[14:40] <Zionad_> theeagle: Ubuntu
[14:41] <SAngeli> yes, but can you make it work, when you click on the link? I cannot. Can you please try and let me know?
[14:41] <|thunder> LjL; thanks, ill have a look
[14:41] <hasssna> anyone know where i can find information on setting up an internet connection on ubuntu?
[14:41] <newman> how do i install ophcrack-2.4.1 ?
[14:41] <LjL> !rootirc | newman
[14:41] <ubotu> newman: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.
[14:41] <TheEagle> Zionad_: what version of windows is the one pc running
[14:42] <Zionad_> XP
[14:42] <TheEagle> Zionad_: xp?
[14:42] <TheEagle> ok
[14:42] <Zionad_> yes'
[14:42] <|thunder> LjL; guess ill use the console ver. tracker gui tool is ..  lacking
[14:42] <aa> can anyone help me? I'm new on scripting, and i want 2 customize pidgin account login dialog using scripts from pastebin.com, but each time i follow the link i end up in texts sound like this /home/pastebin/public_html/../posts/ needs to be a writable dir to use file storage engine..... anyone can help me?
[14:42] <DaveMck> sooo... mounting a RAID partition at startup. Anyone an expert?
[14:43] <DaveMck> god i feel like a whiny kid
[14:43] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: if it continues to happen after a reinstall as you have said, file a bug on launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:43] <|thunder> DaveMck; ive been there
[14:43] <LjL> |thunder: the relevant package for that is tracker-utils
[14:43] <|thunder> DaveMck; with a mac partitoon
[14:43] <TheEagle> Zionad_: you might have already tried this but - go to Start->Connect To then right click on your network connection and goto properties - Double Click on TCP/IP and enter manual ip addresses
[14:43] <crush_groove>  I think you can go from ubuntu to kubuntu pretty easy . can you do the opposite ?
[14:43] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus: it only happens in updates
[14:43] <bazhang> DaveMck: fakeraid?
[14:43] <|thunder> LjL; i have it , thanks
[14:43] <DaveMck> no, software. mdadm
[14:43] <DaveMck> just really simple stuff
[14:43] <J_Laptop> crush- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:43] <LjL> newman, follow the instructions that come with it. a version of ophcrack *is* available in the repositories; you either install that, or you're on your own.
[14:43] <blazemonger> only thing i dont like about ubuntu is gnome is too much for me
[14:43] <blazemonger> i want sometjhuing more text based
[14:43] <pidginDutch> any admins around?
[14:44] <zarac-> how / where do i change my default sound device?
[14:44] <MrHippocampus> blazmonger: something going wrong with updates is still a bug
[14:44] <DaveMck> i dont trust my fakeraid controller, it's destroyed data on me in the past :(
[14:44] <J_Laptop> blaze - might try something like fluxbuntu
[14:44] <Zionad_> TheEagle: i COULD do that, but i dont know my ISP's DNS servers, which windows XP requires to make the computer have a static IP and route
[14:44] <SAngeli> |thunder: you are correct, from terminal, with wget I got it. Through web not. Funny
[14:44] <TheEagle> do you have a router
[14:44] <pidginDutch> i tested the install of the nonfree flash for gutsy, there is an md5 checksum error
[14:44] <crush_groove> J_Laptop,  does that uninstall kubuntu and replace it or does that simply gimme another dt to login to
[14:44] <pidginDutch> thats not good
[14:44] <LjL> !flash > pidginDutch    (pidginDutch, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:44] <Zionad_> THeEagle: Yes my router i want to ACT as a dhcp server to the whole network
[14:44] <SAngeli> |thunder: now, what should I do? Just extract it and cp the file you told me into the firefox plugins, and restart firefox?
[14:44] <TheEagle> Zionad_: which router have you got
[14:44] <J_Laptop> crush - Idon't think it'll remove KDE, but I think your default would become gnome
[14:44] <pidginDutch> ok thanks
[14:45] <Zionad_> oh darn, A Netgear wireless one, Im not near it right now so i dont have the model
[14:45] <crush_groove>  J_Laptop  ty . Ive done that
[14:45] <Zionad_> but it IS set in the control panel to be a DHCP server i know that
[14:45] <Andycasss> is there a way to chmod 777 a dir just for one user?
[14:45] <|thunder> SAngeli; yes, into that exact folder i specified earier. it may not exist yet. but thats ok
[14:45] <SAngeli> let me see
[14:45] <J_Laptop> Andy - your question is impossible
[14:45] <LjL> Andycasss: uh? no, there is a way to give any set of permissions to the *owner* of that directory, though.
[14:45] <jason> is it just me or is the flash plugin installer thing broken?  not a big deal cause the manual install worked.  but just curious in case my newbie friends start calling :)
[14:45] <J_Laptop> LJL beat me
[14:46] <LjL> !flash > jason    (jason, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:46] <TheEagle> Zionad_: hold on a minute or two ill be back
[14:46] <komputes> LjL: I was reading up on RockRidge, it's pretty cool, allows long names and unix permissions to be kept, I take it otherwise, the names will be truncated to 8.3 or something fil~01293.ext
[14:46] <Zionad_> TheEAgle: ok thanks!
[14:46] <Andycasss> LjL: how?
[14:46] <LjL> !permissions > Andycasss    (Andycasss, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:46] <bazhang> does no one read the topic? oy.
[14:46] <LjL> komputes: indeed they would.
[14:46] <Zionad_> !permissions > Zionad_
[14:46] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus:  how safe is it to use ubuntu without installing updates
[14:47] <thorm> Hmm someone can help me how to install azureus on ubuntu?
[14:47] <LjL> komputes: do just use tar, though, i really can't guarantee rockridge won't give you surprises
[14:47] <blazemonger> that way i can be sure not to get the scrollkeeper bug
[14:47] <TheEagle> !permissions | Zionad_
[14:47] <ubotu> Zionad_: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[14:47] <Zionad_> hah, cool
[14:47] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: I wouldnt recommend not updating
[14:47] <D3> How can I analyze the crash dumps I get...
[14:47] <DaveMck> bazhang: it's software RAID, and I can create it and mount it no worries. I just can't get it to happen at startup, I have to do it manually after logon
[14:47] <blazemonger> MrHippocampus: well the updates are causing the bugs
[14:47] <komputes> LjL, do you know what happens if you put a rockridge CD is put in an old standard linux 2.4 machine without rockridge?
[14:48] <LjL> komputes: you see the 8.3 filenames with the wrong permissions.
[14:48] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: then file a bug on launchpad so the developers know about it
[14:48] <blazemonger> they prob know about it
[14:48] <komputes> wrong permissions, whoo, thank doogness noes
[14:49] <blazemonger> is it really a bug if it's onl yhappening to two updates?
[14:49] <Milotin> can someone tell that if it's normal this : yesterday my network connection didn`t worked but the sound yes. when i managed to solve my network problem the sound crashed and when i tried to solve the sound the network crashed
[14:49] <si> ciao
[14:49] <si> !list
[14:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:49] <ShadowCall> i had a clean ubuntu install, and i had sound but had screeching noise over the top of it that hurt my ears
[14:49] <B-rabbit> General Q: What's the diffrence between VMware workstation & VMWare server....don't they do the same job....what's the advantage and drawbacks?
[14:49] <ShadowCall> i had did some updates and then had to reboot
[14:49] <MrHippocampus> blazemonger: a bug can happen on one update or one hundred, its still a bug
[14:49] <LjL> komputes: note that, to confuse matters further, RockRidge is *not* the set of extensions that's used by Microsoft Windows, so if you make a RockRidge CD, Windows users will still see 8.3 filenames. you have to tell your burner to use Juliet extensions too, to cater for Windows. Probably doesn't matter to you right now, but just FYI
[14:49] <white_eagle> how to enable the multimedia keys on my laptop?
[14:50] <ShadowCall> when i rebooted t odesktop it didnt recognise my sound card
[14:50] <DaveMck> white_eagle: what keyboard?
[14:50] <thorm> how do i install applications on ubuntu? put the .jar in usr?
[14:50] <LjL> !mediakeys > white_eagle    (white_eagle, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:50] <blazemonger> someone else will report the bug
[14:50] <LjL> thorm: wha? no. i assume you meant to say *Java* applications anyway?
[14:50] <TheEagle> LjL: its not > its |
[14:50] <LjL> !bot > TheEagle    (TheEagle, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:51] <blazemonger> i just want to figure out the cause+effect :)
[14:51] <thorm> Yes i mean java like azureus, LjL .. can you help me?
[14:51] <SAngeli> |thunder:  as usual, you guys in channel are great."!  It worked
[14:51] <blazemonger> i'm looking through the source code
[14:51] <LjL> !azureus > thorm    (thorm, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:51] <komputes> Milotin: what kind of network card/sound card are they both PCI or are they built in?
[14:51] <TheEagle> o right
[14:51] <thorm> thank you LjL
[14:51] <TheEagle> sorry
[14:51] <SAngeli> |thunder: now, how to add more plugins under firefox, at lest the most important ones?
[14:51] <juano__> thorm: use synaptic to install those applications, you should install .deb packages
[14:51] <zubuntu> so this is bizarre, I seem to have lost the applications section of my menu they don't show up under the main menu, and i added the menu bar, and the application drop down is empty
[14:52] <LjL> thorm: anyway, you should be able to install 'azureus' by just typing « sudo apt-get install azureus ». it's a package that's available in the repositories.
[14:52] <TheEagle> Zionad_: as a temporary solution as i can;t find the exact cause - just get the DNS from your router
[14:52] <thorm> Oh ok
[14:52] <thorm> i'll try that then
[14:52] <blazemonger> whats wrong with apt?
[14:53] <blazemonger> do i need to install the backports too?
[14:53] <bazhang> SAngeli: do it via firefox tools--addons-extensions
[14:53] <SAngeli> ok
[14:53] <SAngeli> will do so.
[14:53] <SAngeli> thks for now
[14:53] <crush_groove> what command will five you dns ?? route -n?
[14:53] <zubuntu> nothing on the forums about it, has this happened to anyone else?
[14:53] <crush_groove>  give you
[14:54] <thorm> thx it worked, juano__ and LjL :)
[14:54] <TheEagle> Zionad_: do you know how to do that
[14:54] <juano__> thorm: np
[14:54] <LjL> thorm: remember to *always* search for packages in the repositories before installing them in other strange ways (which are likely to break your system).
[14:54] <thorm> yes.. :)
[14:55] <thorm> im just pretty new to ubuntu.. but seems sleek and efficient!
[14:55] <juano__> thorm: your second step is if it isnt in the repositories, search for a .deb file of that app
[14:55] <thorm> ok
[14:55] <bazhang> thorm: and the support is top notch :}
[14:55] <thorm> oh yeah bazhang :) takes virtually seconds to get great support in here.. thumbs up
[14:56] <LjL> juano__, thorm: better make sure it's a .deb for Ubuntu, though, and not a .deb for Debian, because that may reserve ugly surprises, too, especially if it's a back-end or library instead of an end-user application
[14:56] <DaveMck> so, like I was saying... trying to mount /dev/md0 at startup. I've tried a few things, like adding it to /etc/fstab, but that's no good because the md service isn't running at that point. It was also suggested to try mounting it in rc.local, but that hasnt worked for me either...
[14:56] <juano__> LjL thorm: right ^^
[14:57] <|thunder> SAngeli; goto applications then add/remove and search for mplayer, install it and the mozilla plugin packages. then search gstreamer and install all the ones that say gstreamer. thats what i did. everything works great for me.
[14:57] <zobban> hi i have ubuntu 6.10 can i upgrade it even more or thats ok
[14:57] <B-rabbit> do u have to register some where to send private messagees (on IRC) to people ?
[14:57] <|thunder> SAngeli; ohh ya, search for restricted as well
[14:57] <LjL> !register > B-rabbit    (B-rabbit, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:57] <SAngeli> |thunder: ok, thks
[14:58] <arcade> Who should one contact about buggy packages in multiverse?
[14:58] <bazhang> SAngeli: more specifically install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:58] <B-rabbit> LjL, thnx
[14:58] <thorm> oh yeah my torrents now work! great..
[14:58] <SAngeli> ok
[14:58] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=610857 DaveMck
[14:59] <LjL> !bugs | arcade
[14:59] <ubotu> arcade: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[15:00] <bazhang> SAngeli: also two packages from www.medibuntu.org you likely will want are libdvdcss2 (for playing dvd's) and win32codecs--no need for repos--isntructions on the site
[15:00] <arcade> Found a bunch of bugreports for it :9
[15:00] <arcade> So no need to file another one
[15:00] <SAngeli> ok, thks
[15:01] <zobban> hi i have ubuntu 6.10 can i upgrade it even more or thats ok
[15:01] <joachi> Does anyone know how I can analyze the .crash files in /var/crash directory...
[15:01] <LjL> !upgrade > zobban    (zobban, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:02] <bazhang> zobban you can
[15:02] <zobban> what is the latest ubuntu
[15:02] <jrhod> 7.10
[15:02] <LjL> !gutsy | zobban
[15:02] <ubotu> zobban: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:02] <bazhang> 7.10 zobban
[15:03] <zobban> so is it difficutl to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.10
[15:03] <LjL> zobban: a bit, because you need to go through 7.04
[15:03] <LjL> you can't upgrade directly
[15:03] <zobban> ok i thought i just du apt get upgrade
[15:04] <joachi> apt-get upgrade is only available from 7.04 to 7.10.
[15:04] <LjL> apt-get upgrade is NOT the recommended method to upgrade, in any case.
[15:04] <zobban> so what to do to upgrade or not i am on 6.10
[15:05] <LjL> zobban, you were sent instructions
[15:05] <zobban> yes it shows instructions but i dunno to upgrade or not
[15:05] <LjL> zobban, we can't decide for you.
[15:06] <zobban> well what do you think is it better to upgrade or not
[15:06] <kurt_> is it possible to run some nice graphix games on virtualbox ?
[15:06] <zubuntu> um i don't want to be a pain, but a lot of new people have come in the channel, so i seem to have lost my application list, i can still run them through the run dialog, bit the dialog won't list my known apps, or rather it lists none just white space, and they also don't show up in my main menu, or in the menu bar (i added it to check)
[15:06] <LjL> kurt_: it won't let you use 3D games at anything close to an acceptable speed.
[15:06] <zobban> dont use virtualbox its so slowly to run virtual box i never like to have virtualbox
[15:06] <kurt_> can't get a game running on cedega transgaming
[15:06] <san|> I have an FTP connection with GnomeVFS. This works but gedit can open files only in read only mode.. scribes (another text editor) can modify these files... anyone a clue why?
[15:06] <LjL> kurt_: tried plain WINE?
[15:07] <kurt_> tried to install a game via wine but installing takes forever
[15:07] <kurt_> crossover works too but for some games it does not find an aspi layer
[15:08] <DEadPuNk> hello can anyone help to install ntfs-3g please
[15:08] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org/ kurt_
[15:08] <alemones> Hi Guys, I would need help with getting Wide-screen res 1280x800 on a laptop. Can anyone help me?
[15:08] <MrHippocampus> !ntfs3g | DEadPuNk
[15:08] <ubotu> DEadPuNk: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:09] <kurt_> btw i own the game spellforce , i know it excist for linux too but is it possible to add some files too my pc version of the game so it runs in linux
[15:09] <kurt_> like they did with quake 2 i believe
[15:11] <LjL> kurt_: VMWare may be a better option than VirtualBox, since it has (experimental) Direct3D support. However, VMWare is not available in the official repositories... VMWare Server is in Canonical's commercial repositories, but i don't think it supports Direct3D (couldn't swear on it). VMWare Player does, i don't know if anybody provides a package for it.
[15:12] <white_eagle> !VirtualBox
[15:12] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[15:12] <benzss> can anybody name a wireless adapter which is almost 100% guaranteed to work with gutsy?
[15:12] <benzss> 'cos i'm just going to buy it. getting mine to work is too much agro.
[15:12] <kurt_> sure ralink 2500
[15:12] <kurt_> that is not a brand
[15:12] <benzss> yeah doesn't work
[15:12] <benzss> nor does rt73
[15:12] <bazhang> intel benzss
[15:12] <benzss> both drivers are still really buggy
[15:13] <kurt_> it works out of the box
[15:13] <kurt_> i have one like that
[15:13] <kurt_> from msi
[15:13] <benzss> works out the box for about 5 minutes ;)
[15:13] <white_eagle> benzss: mine works out of the box: atheros ar2413
[15:13] <benzss> white_eagle: isn't that a laptop thing?
[15:13] <benzss> white_eagle: pretty sure i have that in this acer laptop i'm using atm (which i daren't touch with ubuntu)
[15:14] <timmy_> Wie heeft er L.Mint
[15:14] <DEadPuNk> thanx ubotu
[15:14] <white_eagle> benzss: why?
[15:14] <kurt_> anyone know how to add an aspi layer for codeweaver app
[15:14] <benzss> white_eagle: i don't like to sit down for hours figuring out why my laptop won't suspend properly, or why my touchpad won't work, etc
[15:14] <benzss> white_eagle: anyway i think this is actually th wrong channel for this... oops
[15:14] <noogen> get a wireless gaming adapter
[15:15] <white_eagle> benzss: except suspending, everything else works fine with my toshiba laptop
[15:15] <noogen> connect through your regular ethernet and you don't have to install driver hehe
[15:15] <brobostigon> hi, good afternoon
[15:16] <bazhang> hi!
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> brobostigon: Good Morning.. TIme is Relative..:)
[15:16] <Shimfs> hi everyone
[15:16] <white_eagle> 00h, 12 MB downloaded for 30 min :(((
[15:16] <alemones> Hi Guys, I would need help with getting Wide-screen res 1280x800 on a laptop. Can anyone help me?
[15:16] <JoeThomas> Hi, I'm getting some errors on boot, "ata 2.01: failed to set xfermode(err_mask=0x4)" 4 of them.
[15:16] <white_eagle> alemones: xx''?
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: Have you been through the help page for setting res?
[15:17] <Shimfs> I have just installed Ubuntu on my Laptop, but when i load it now, right after isntallation. The screen remains blank. but i can hear it works
[15:17] <juano_1> alemones: system > preferences > screen resolution
[15:17] <white_eagle> Shimfs: I have that problem, wait and it will boot
[15:17] <alemones> no, I'm a total beginner, what and where is that?
[15:17] <timmy_> Ik zoek raad over LinuxMint (mag ik bij Mint de Backports aanvinken ?.
[15:17] <Shimfs> white_eagle, okay
[15:17] <Shimfs> white_eagle, thanks
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > alemones
[15:17] <Shimfs> white_eagle, right now im using recovery mode
[15:17] <white_eagle> shimfs: lolz
[15:17] <bazhang> dutch timmy?
[15:17] <alemones> !res
[15:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:18] <alemones> !res>alemones
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: Once you have read through that we would be happy to help you with anything you are having trouble with
[15:18] <danube> anyone can give me a hint why i'm not even with sudo permitted to ping my designated DNS?
[15:18] <timmy_> Kan geen engels ben een dikke zestiger
[15:18] <michalski> !su
[15:18] <white_eagle> Shimfs: got it?
[15:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:18] <Shimfs> white_eagle, no, doing a reboot right now
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: Do you get to a cli in recovery mode
[15:19] <white_eagle> |_ocke: what a funny nick
[15:19] <alemones> thx guys! I have the tab at sight, will work on it. FYI I have been fighting with 915resolution for the last 2 days!!
[15:19] <white_eagle> |_ocke: no offense
[15:19] <michalski> !printer
[15:19] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[15:19] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, i get to the point where i am logged in as root. Nothing else, in text mode
[15:19] <white_eagle> Shimfs: didn't reboot?
[15:19] <Shimfs> white_eagle, i chosed to reboot
[15:20] <white_eagle> Shimfs: wait longer, when I first installed ubuntu it booted for 5 minutes with a black screen
[15:20] <|_ocke> whats funny about Locke?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg   is the basic way to set the vidoe and get to your gui
[15:20] <DaveMck> anyone know how to get the mdadm 'service' running at bootup?
[15:20] <Shimfs> white_eagle, okay :S
[15:20] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, thank you
[15:20] <|_ocke> i've had this nick since 1994 when final fantasy 3 US came out
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: For failsafe... set the card to vesa and max res or 1024x768
[15:20] <|_ocke> course, someone on EFnet already had Locke, so i got |_ocke
[15:20] <noogen> danube: maybe your dns has firewall blocking for icmp flood protection
[15:21] <white_eagle> |_ocke: oh jeez
[15:21] <|_ocke> and thats what i've been ever since
[15:21] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, i shall try that. Thank you
[15:21] <danube> noogen: how to get behind that?
[15:21] <|_ocke> so this nick is more than 13 years old
[15:21] <kurt_> does anyone know where to download aspi layer for linux
[15:21] <vincenz> Ok, I confirm, there is -definitely- something wrong with the latest update to gutsy
[15:21] <Milotin> i can`t start my networkd connection because my dns ip are not good
[15:21] <minus> Ehm.. I have a page on my server that is set to charset UTF-8. If I set Firefox in ubuntu to use UTF-8, all the special chars are questionmarks instead. Why is this?
[15:21] <Milotin> how may i find out what dns to use ?
[15:21] <white_eagle> |_ocke: I've got 16 years
[15:21] <Shimfs> jack_sparrow. It says xserver-sorg is not installet
[15:22] <vincenz> I intsalled from the gutsy cd and everything worked fine.  Then I updated to the latest pacages, and I'm getting the same bugs again as yesterday, when I log in, gnome flashes and then I get hdd
[15:22] <|_ocke> white_eagle, really? i thought that IRC has only existed since 93..
[15:22] <minus> I used "ISO-8859-15" as charset on the page and Iso 8859-1 as decoding in firefox, and then it worked.
[15:22] <minus> But I want UTF-8
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs typop.. hold on
[15:22] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, ahh ok :P :)
[15:22] <brobostigon> milotin: your dns servers are define in /etc/resolv.conf, and some other places but cant rememeber.
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:23] <|_ocke> so what server were you on in 1991?
[15:23] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, ahh that worked :P
[15:23] <Milotin> in etc/resolv.conf are the dns from my past connection the one with the static ip
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: Sorry, typing with one hand and trying to get down my first cup of coffee..  my bad
[15:23] <Milotin> brobostigon can you please try remember where else should they be ?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> |_ocke: Please avoid the offtopic discussions
[15:23] <Milotin> brobostigon i know someone told me the dns from my terminal...
[15:24] <|_ocke> meh :P
[15:24] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, ahh okay :P then you must be from america or something like that :P
[15:24] <zubuntu> i have been searching the forums, and i can't find anything relevant to my problem, is there anywhere else I can go for support?
[15:24] <SAngeli> is it sage to use xorg-edit to edit and better my nvidia gpu settings? I am using Ubuntu 7.10
[15:24] <brobostigon> milotin: its one of the config files for dhcp, have a look in /etc/dhcp*, i cant remeber
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: Something like the Americas yes
[15:24] <brobostigon> i  think??
[15:24] <Milotin> so they should be the same ?
[15:24] <bitsbam> hey gents, i have to replace a cratered hard drive on a compaq/hp notebook, do they use standard hardware like what i can get at newegg, or do i have to get one special from hp?
[15:24] <taufik> hallo all
[15:24] <vincenz> Does anyone know why updating to the latest gutsy makes X behave so strangely?
[15:25] <Milotin> i found them in /etc/ppp
[15:25] <taufik> somebody can help me
[15:25] <brobostigon> milotin: i dont know, not sure.
[15:25] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, ahh white eagle says that the first time he booted ubuntu with gusty, it took 5 minutes with black screen
[15:25] <MrHippocampus> DaveMCK: have you made sure the mdadm service starts at boot time? "update-rc.d mdadm boot" i think
[15:25] <taufik> i have i problem
[15:26] <DaveMck> MrHippocampus: Yeah, just looking at that now!
[15:26] <SAngeli> is it sage to use xorg-edit to edit and better my nvidia gpu settings? I am using Ubuntu 7.10
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: depends on your hardware...  But that command I gave is golden for when you make a res change and cant get back in
[15:26] <DaveMck> MrHippocampus: I don't have an /etc/init.d/mdadm file though
[15:27] <taufik> #wanda
[15:27] <DaveMck> MrHippocampus: so i just get "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/mdadm: file does not exist"
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: NOt sure what you are trying to do, but make sure you have a copy of your xorg.conf first
[15:27] <nmbooker> hello all
[15:28] <MrHippocampus> DaveMcK: if you look at the file list in http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/mdadm it says it should be there
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> bitsbam: Only some of those are propietary.. not sure of that particular one.
[15:28] <taufik> i have a problem with sound
[15:28] <TheEagle> is it possible to run microsofr office 2007 on ubuntu with wine?
[15:28] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow: I have my monitor setting at 60Hz but ubuntu shows 50. So, i thought to set it up properly
[15:28] <taufik> my soundcard is not work
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !find mdadm
[15:28] <brobostigon> theeaglr: i think it should wrk, not tried though??
[15:28] <vincenz> For some reason, when I sintall gutsy from the gutsy install cd, everything works fine.  But when I update to the latest updates, my X starts acting relaly odd like the problem I had last night.  So it's definitely something in one of the update packages.
[15:28] <ubotu> Found: mdadm
[15:28] <zonianos> p
[15:29] <Shimfs> i am reconfiguring my xorg
[15:29] <bitsbam> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, Jack
[15:29] <Shimfs> now i am going to chose a mouse port
[15:29] <Shimfs> but i use a synaptic touchbad
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> SAngeli: np just make a backup before you start, and know how to restore it with cp or sudo nano from cli
[15:29] <Shimfs> touchpad
[15:29] <larson9999> TheEagle, i doubt it.  older versions, yes.  i bet if 2007 runs it has lots of bugs
[15:29] <brobostigon> theeagle: not sure, but should work, not tried though.
[15:29] <bullgard4> I do not understand line 340 in http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/23981/. Why is it necessary to test the existence of the file 85-anacron.sh instead of simply trying to run it?
[15:29] <nmbooker> i've got one of these iitronics MP3 players from Argos, and I copy some MP3 files to it, but the ID3 data (title etc) is displayed with Chinese characters and the usual generic "Box" character.  Any ideas why?
[15:29] <taufik> i'm new
[15:29] <Shimfs> is that, psaux, ttyS0, tts0 or gpmdata
[15:29] <SAngeli> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: just accept the defaults for anything else...
[15:29] <wanda> Word hier alleen Eng Ge  chat
[15:29] <vincenz> wanda: ja
[15:30] <MrHippocampus> DaveMcK: when I installed mdadm on my desktop (other side of the country atm unfortunately) it automatically worked on boot up
[15:30] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, there was no default, its a drop down kind of list
[15:30] <nmbooker> (on the player's display that is, not on the PC)
[15:30] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, but i pick mouse then
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: You should just be able to hit tab and enter
[15:30] <wanda> dan kan ik dus dit chat program weer verlaten
[15:30] <TheEagle> because I have an installation of it on my otyher hard drive running windows and i have tried to run "wine WINWORD.EXE" and i get a message saying "fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT"
[15:30] <TheEagle> err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\media\\disk\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\Office12\\WINWORD.exe") not found
[15:30] <TheEagle> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\media\\disk\\Program Files\\Microsoft Office\\Office12\\WINWORD.exe" failed, status c0000135
[15:30] <TheEagle> andrew@ubuntu:/media/disk/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office12$
[15:30] <TheEagle> "
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> wanda.. english only please
[15:30] <TheEagle> sorry - i should have used pastebin
[15:31] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks
[15:31] <vincenz> Does anyone know why the latest updates break x?
[15:31] <wanda> wanda zegt goodby for ever
[15:31] <noogen> vincenz: the update mess me up too... I couldn't boot.   had to do a recovery boot from cd and fix it.
[15:32] <vincenz> nonix4: I can boot fine, it's just that when I log into gdm, it borks
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> wanda are you dutch?  We have channels in other languages
[15:32] <alemones> Hi guys, thanks, I already identified the problem: I have version 6.06 and only from 6.10 I can use the higher resolution of 1280x800, because I have intel 915 graphics...
[15:32] <T1m0thy> Good thing I haven't updated.
[15:32] <DaveMck> MrHippocampus: Thanks, I didn't install the ubuntu package, i got mdadm from the source website. I'll try with the correct package :D
[15:32] <vincenz> wanda: try ubuntu.nl ?
[15:32] <zubuntu> is there a way i can refresh/recreate/rebuild my application list?
[15:32] <alemones> can I upgrade from 6.06 to 7 without big mess?
[15:32] <wanda> ja ik ben dutch graag een link
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: No, you must do them in order
[15:33] <MrHippocampus> DaveMck:Ah, that would explain it, yes, the ubuntu package automagically detects and sets them up :)
[15:33] <noogen> yeah sometime updates overwrite your original configuration files or rename it to like .bak
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !dk
[15:33] <ubotu> For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[15:33] <vincenz> wanda: /join #ubuntu-nl
[15:33] <vincenz> !nl
[15:33] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[15:33] <noogen> just has to know what you update to fix hehe
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: thanks... thats the one I wanted
[15:33] <alemones> Thanks JACK, then I need to burn the ISO image and start from scratch?
[15:33] <Shimfs> white_eagle, you said the first time it took 5 minutes before your screen would show anything. How did you make sure it did not take that long, the second time?
[15:33] <DaveMck> MrHippocampus: What would have been the correct way to obtain mdadm?  I searched through the add/remove packages thing to no avail, which is why I ended up installing manually
[15:34] <white_eagle> Shimfs: I haven't done anything
[15:34] <TheEagle> can someone help me with wine
[15:34] <vincenz> Is it a known problem that updating breaks X?
[15:34] <Shimfs> white_eagle, okay
[15:34] <white_eagle> #wine
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: Fresh installs always work better, but if you really want to save your setup you upgrade one by one..
[15:34] <TheEagle> white_eagle: i know what wine is - i just need some help with something
[15:34] <white_eagle> tell
[15:34] <TheEagle> i keep getting a message when i try to run an exe
[15:34] <TheEagle> ill paste in the pastebimn
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: Occasionally yes, but easy enough to reset your res X from cli recovery mode
[15:35] <alemones> JACK - thanks a lot, what do you mean one by one? download all the updates?
[15:35] <vincenz> Jack_Sparrow: how?
[15:35] <MrHippocampus> DaveMck: the synaptic package manager lists all of the packages, the ones in add/remove are typically just GUI ones
[15:35] <Milotin>  can someone tell that if it's normal this : yesterday my network connection didn`t worked but the sound yes. when i managed to solve my network problem the sound crashed and when i tried to solve the sound the network crashed
[15:35] <vincenz> Jack_Sparrow: even dpgk-reconfigure does not fix it
[15:35] <Milotin> i guess is some sort of conflict between them
[15:35] <Milotin> can someone help me fix this ?
[15:35] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, apparently, it just takes a LONG time to boot. because after some minutes the screen was no longer black. But we are talking very much above average boot time for any OS :P
[15:35] <bullgard4> I do not understand line 340 in http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/23981/. Why is it necessary to test the existence of the file 85-anacron.sh instead of simply trying to run it?
[15:35] <mrbrdo> hey, i have a small problem with XSP2 and MONO. It works fine if i start with "xsp2", but when i start with "/etc/init.d/mono-xsp2 start" it doesn't work. why?
[15:36] <caravel> would anyone be so kind to look at this kernel log ? gutsy froze the other night, caps lock was blinking on this Asus V1S laptop, had to hard-reboot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49280/ thanks
[15:36] <TheEagle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49419/
[15:36] <mrbrdo> i don't know any log file to look
[15:36] <DaveMck> MrHippocampus: Aha!  I learn things.  Thanks heaps!
[15:36] <Shimfs> white_eagle, now it works :S :P
[15:36] <noogen> Shimfs: have you try without splash and with irqpoll?  that speed it up for me
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: then you are not getting the settings right, set it to vesa mode 1024 max to get back basic gui... then you can up the res and setup your correct video card etc...  Usually ATI have that problem
[15:36] <Shimfs> noogen, and how to chose that?
[15:36] <T1m0thy> I should not update to the newest kernel, correct?
[15:37] <noogen> actually i don't know about the desktop livecd
[15:37] <TheEagle> i have downloaded the MSVCR80.DLL but have no idea where to put it
[15:37] <TheEagle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49419/
[15:37] <noogen> i don't think it has the option
[15:37] <noogen> i use the server livecd
[15:37] <MrHippocampus> DaveMck: glad i could help :)
[15:37] <noogen> hehe sorry
[15:37] <vincenz> Jack_Sparrow: hwo does that explain the mad hdd behaviour
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: Then something is hanging it up.. you should be able to remove quiet from boot/grub/menu.lst and see what the problem is
[15:37] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, okay
[15:37] <noogen> oh so you still having problem with boot?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: look n the wiki for an issue on hdd for some laptops
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: #winehq can help with those questions
[15:39] <vincenz> Jack_Sparrow: the issue is not with X, gdm works fine, the issue only appears after logging in
[15:39] <TheEagle> Jack_Sparrow: cheers
[15:39] <vincenz> Jack_Sparrow: and how can I go look on wiki if I don't have x.
[15:39] <white_eagle> Shimfs, so...
[15:39] <Hestv4_> links?
[15:39] <vincenz> browsing the web in 25 rows = impossible
[15:39] <Hestv4_> oh no
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: a different computer, a live cd there are ways..
[15:39] <Hestv4_> I do it just for fun
[15:39]  * vincenz pffts
[15:39] <vincenz> This is the second time I get this problem
[15:39] <vincenz> Something's borked in a package
[15:40] <white_eagle> Shimfs, it works after waiting?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: Post a bug report and identify your hardware...
[15:40]  * vincenz has other priorities, and a borked system is not helping
[15:41] <Shimfs> white_eagle, yes. I am trying to get it to boot faster now
[15:41] <Sentence> hi
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> vincenz: FYI, I keep a second linux install, basic everything, not upgraded on my drive for testing and backup purposes, I dont suppose you have any sort of backup to of your system
[15:41] <Sentence> someone can recommend me an irc client for x windows with gui mode?
[15:42] <underdawg> is FLASH still broken?
[15:42] <Sentence> i tried xchat, konvesation, ksirc, anything else?
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> underdawg: yes from what I have heard
[15:42] <white_eagle> Shimfs: I tried that also, but can't get it to boot faster :(( stopped trying the second day
[15:42] <nonix4> no, browsing the web in 25 rows isn't impossible... nor is fragging noobies w/ ttyquake, although 50+ rows is preferable
[15:42] <Shimfs> white_eagle, so you wait so long each time?
[15:42] <underdawg> Jack_Sparrow: thx for responding
[15:42] <underdawg> doh!
[15:42] <underdawg> !flash
[15:42] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:42] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:42] <white_eagle> white_eagle: no, I usually wait for 3 min.
[15:42] <white_eagle> oh
[15:43] <white_eagle> lol
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> underdawg: You can use the workaround... if you really must have flash...  but please backup first
[15:43] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, a guy said i should try to start the system without  splash and with irqpoll. how to do so?
[15:43] <white_eagle> Shimfs: no, I usually wait for 3 min.
[15:43] <nmbooker> hi all again I think I've solved the problem with my MP3 player and ID3 tags -- I re-built the tag in easytag and it worked fine (english characters).
[15:43]  * underdawg is telling his teen to wait
[15:43] <underdawg> ;)
[15:43] <nmbooker> The question is how can I do this from the command line?
[15:43] <simone> ciao a tutti
[15:43] <simone> scusate ho un problema
[15:43] <Shimfs> white_eagle, okay :(
[15:43] <white_eagle> Shimfs: I have an older laptop thats why, but windows booted 3 times slower
[15:43] <simone> nessuno mi puo dare una mano
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: from gui gksudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:43] <jatt> !it
[15:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:43] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, thank you
[15:44] <simone> c è nussuno?
[15:44] <SAngeli> How to add 60 Hz to my Xorg config file, so that resolution is at 60 Hz ?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > simone
[15:44] <newbieee> my panel is not working....how to get it back....i'm used xfce4-panel but again it disapear when i boot.
[15:44] <alemones> HI GUYS, I have 6.06 version. When I download all updates, do I get 7.10?
[15:44] <bazhang> alemones: no
[15:45] <nmbooker> alemones: You just get the latest updates for 6.06.
[15:45] <worldcitizen09> hi everyone
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: update and upgrade are different
[15:45] <worldcitizen09> Can you help me with a problem?
[15:46] <white_eagle> join #xchat
[15:46] <worldcitizen09> My wine crashes the system and i cannot do anything after that
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[15:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:46] <SAngeli> How to add 60 Hz to my Xorg config file, so that resolution is at 60 Hz ?
[15:46] <white_eagle> sorry
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: How did you install wine and where did you get the wine you installed
[15:46] <worldcitizen09> i think this is because of my gigabye motherboard display driver via unichrome
[15:47] <alemones> bazhang: Hi, thx 4 your reply. The help says if I have 6.06 and a Intel 915 graphics, I can't use full screen.. So I want to get a higher version, but not reinstall all
[15:47] <newbieee> my panel is not working....how to get it back....i'm used xfce4-panel but again it disapear when i boot.
[15:47] <worldcitizen09> Jack through automatix
[15:47] <zubuntu> NO, do not use automatix!
[15:47] <worldcitizen09> then
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: Then insert the livecd and reinstall Ubuntu.. what you did messed everything up
[15:47] <bazhang> alemones: well you can upgrade via the web, but it is a long haul...
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[15:48] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[15:48] <Ranpha1> Hi i just found my Sierra card which is a built in but it has to be somewhere in de /dev/ttyUSb* but i can't find it, is there a way to make a list?
[15:48] <DavidMcK> MrHippocampus: Just tried a restart, RAID partition mounted just like it should - automagically. TY again
[15:48] <alemones> bazhang: If I download the 270 MB of updates, do I get to Ubuntu 7.x?
[15:48] <alemones> from 6.06
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: no
[15:48] <alemones> and to 6.10 at least?
[15:49] <bazhang> alemones no
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: update and upgrades are different
[15:49] <alemones> :(
[15:49] <alemones> ok, then I should reinstall all...
[15:49] <bazhang> alemones: first back up
[15:49] <MrHippocampus> DavidMcK: good to hear :)
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: I would dl 7.10 before trying to upgrade through all the releases
[15:49] <worldcitizen09> Jack fine, went to the page
[15:49] <worldcitizen09> How should I install wine then?
[15:50] <nonix4> zubuntu: how do I get rid of everything medibuntu on my sys?
[15:50] <alemones> hm.. I was looking forward to show it in full to my wife for Xmas... maybe Xmas 2008!  Thank you anyway JACK and Bazhang
[15:50] <TheEagle> is it possible to run office 2007 on ubuntu?
[15:50] <bazhang> alemones: lots to back up?
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: WIne is in our repos... very easy to install it .. the right way... You cant JUST install it the right way now.. Your system has been comprimised
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[15:50] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:51] <worldcitizen09> I did this through usual method as you suggested
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: No.. even crossover office does not support that yet
[15:51] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, do u mean hacked, or?
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !info wine
[15:51] <worldcitizen09> Still the same problem and with picassa too
[15:51] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB
[15:51] <newbieee> i'm not able to  see my Panel...how to get it back....i used xfce4-panel but again it disapear when i reboot.
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: not hacked.. trashed.. by automatix
[15:51] <rsa___> hi i installed kxmame but i cant play any of the games
[15:51] <alemones> bazhang: I have no prob downloading 270 megs; I want to avoid the hassle of reinstalling all
[15:51] <andreas_> hello i have a question
[15:51] <alemones> but only if I get out of 6.06/!!
[15:52] <bazhang> alemones: you loads of personal data to back up?
[15:52] <vishal> Hi, Can some one help me install realvnc please
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: You did not do what I said which was to reinstall ubuntu...
[15:52] <kbrooks> alemones, you will not.
[15:52] <worldcitizen09> Jack did you get the message about Picassa
[15:52] <alemones> bazhang: not by now
[15:52] <alemones> hm
[15:52] <nonix4> alemones: usually smaller hassle than upgrading multiple releases... well, in general :)
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: You also did not read what automatix does to your system
[15:52] <andreas_> i have a folder on my windows partition, the permissions for others are forbidden, and i want to delete the folder but i can't. Can anyone help me?
[15:52] <alemones> maybe I'll do it then...
[15:52] <bazhang> alemones: a reinstall is very quick, ie installing gutsy over all
[15:52] <TheEagle> Jack_Sparrow: If I already have an installation of Office on My other Harddrive is it possible to run the EXEs via WINE?
[15:52] <alemones> Thank you guys!
[15:52] <todd_> is there an easy way to make a movie my screensaver (.flv and I'd like it to loop)?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: no
[15:53] <alemones> Last one , 7.04 or 7.10 better?
[15:53] <worldcitizen09> the  system hangs and i reinstalled  a few times already but the same issues remain whatever way i installed wine
[15:53] <TheEagle> Jack_Sparrow: Why Not?
[15:53] <todd_> TheEagle: Try OpenOffice... its much better
[15:53] <worldcitizen09> I forgot about screen savers
[15:53] <bazhang> alemones: definitely in time for this xmas :}
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: ask in winehq... it does not work that way and does not support that release of office anyhow
[15:53] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, i have tried to find the  splash and with irqpoll things in the menu.lst but i cant find them
[15:53] <Milotin>  can someone tell that if it's normal this : yesterday my network connection didn`t worked but the sound yes. when i managed to solve my network problem the sound crashed and when i tried to solve the sound the network crashed
[15:53] <alemones> bazhang: :) I hope so!
[15:53] <Milotin> i guess is some sort of conflict between them
[15:53] <worldcitizen09> they too give a lot of problem and many of them dont display well or hand the system.
[15:53] <Milotin> can someone help me fix this ?
[15:54] <TheEagle> todd_: i prefer microsoft office
[15:54] <TheEagle> but ill take a look at it
[15:54] <Ranpha1> How can you see which device connects to where?
[15:54] <bazhang> alemones: and come back tomorrow to get it set up :}
[15:54] <alemones> bazhang: so should I go for 7.04 or 7.10?
[15:54] <RoDoX> people, where are the firefox-favorites pages stored on ubuntu?
[15:54] <noogen> TheEagle: virtualbox might be a compromise
[15:54] <noogen> hehe
[15:54] <vishal> Hi, Can some one help me install realvnc please
[15:54] <todd_> TheEagles: Your bet bet, install it again through wine
[15:54] <bazhang> alemones: what hardware? ram?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> alemones: I like 7.04
[15:54] <nonix4> alemones: well the approach I prefer is installing new releases alongside in another partition and moving the useful data over...
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> todd_:  he tried that it didnt work
[15:54] <TheEagle> noogen_: is it free
[15:55] <TheEagle> todd_: yes i tried it
[15:55] <worldcitizen09> Jack I had 7.04 and 6 versions earlier but there was no problem wih wine on the same system
[15:55] <alemones> It's a Sony Vaio laptop, 512 Ram, Centrino 1.6 Ghz, 80 GB, got win Xp too
[15:55] <nonix4> ... but then again I have separate /home partition so that is mostly trivial :)
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nonix4: I agree...
[15:55] <worldcitizen09> i think there is a problem with gusty
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09:
[15:55] <alemones> JACK thanks
[15:55] <todd_> Jack_Sparow: If that dident work,... you are going to have a HARDER time with your other HD
[15:55] <noogen> TheEagle: yes, but it's virtualization, will need you to install windowsxp
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: sorry.. you have used automatix.. end of story.. it isnt something you can uninstall or easily fix...
[15:56] <Pir8> Folks I have a question. Since yesterday I started getting a problem where after I boot into ubuntu, the pc just freezes.
[15:56] <TheEagle> noogen: i already have xp on another harddrive - does that count
[15:56] <noogen> TheEagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433359
[15:56] <bazhang> worldcitizen09: automatix is the problem
[15:56] <noogen> nope
[15:56] <Pir8> Is there any log files etc that I could maybe look at that could identify why it freezes ?
[15:56] <alemones> Bye guys
[15:56] <Pir8> what other checks/verification could I do ?
[15:56] <alemones> & THx
[15:56] <todd_> is there an easy way to make a movie my screensaver (.flv and I'd like it to loop)?
[15:56] <vishal> TheEagle: why dont u just dual boot?
[15:56] <worldcitizen09> Alright but the screen savers too give the same problem
[15:56] <worldcitizen09> Without wine
[15:57] <TheEagle> vishal: i know i can do that - but i just wondered if it was possible
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: crossover office works very well.. but only up to 2004 if I remember correctly
[15:57] <Shimfs> Jack_Sparrow, one moment, going to use my wired internet on the laptop
[15:57] <vishal> TheEagle: i tried the same with success but a sligh problem in windows
[15:57] <TheEagle> Jack_Sparrow: what is crossover office
[15:57] <vishal> TheEagle:  how ever it does work
[15:57] <todd_> TheEagle: yes it is, but that is a huge project... Dont recomend it
[15:57] <esteth> How do i give a user access to a bunch of files without changing who owns them?
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Shimfs: Post your boot grub to the pastebin
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: It is not free.. google it up for the best and latest info, or they also have a channel
[15:58] <todd_> esteth: man chgrp, and man chmod
[15:58] <vishal> TheEagle: have u heard of vmware?
[15:58] <TheEagle> nope
[15:58] <TheEagle> im completely new to linux
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> esteth: Put them in or under their /user/ folder
[15:59] <vishal> TheEagle: there is a few player version available which allows u to run a virtual windows
[15:59] <todd_> TheEagle: you will have a much better time if you use linux versions of apps on linux, just a suggestion
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> vishal: vm will not run office 2007 either
[15:59] <esteth> Jack_Sparrow: I can't move these files. They're the /dev/input/event files
[16:00] <vishal> Jack_Sparrow: i've got mine working, i use vmware to boot into a windows drive and then use office
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> esteth: then you are going to need to change permissions
[16:00] <vishal> Jack_Sparrow: works a charm
[16:00] <vishal> TheEagle: what verion of windows have you got?
[16:00] <TheEagle> XP
[16:00] <vishal> TheEagle: xp what? oem or retail?
[16:00] <todd_> TheEagle: try QEMU!
[16:01] <SAngeli> Does anyone have a Samsung SyncMaster 206CW monitor running under ubuntu?
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> vishal: INteresting.. I have not heard of anyone getting it to work with any degree of functionality
[16:01] <Ttech> Jack_Sparrow, Why didy ou set ubot on me for saying lol when I never did? Yesterday?
[16:01] <TheEagle> vishal: i don't know
[16:01] <SAngeli> I wish to ask to share xorg.conf if possible
[16:01] <esteth> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks, i've changed permissions now
[16:01] <vishal> Jack_Sparrow: yeah it works perfectly, its just an activation problem
[16:02] <mrbrdo> anyone knows when VBNC will be included in mono package?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Ttech: because it is used way too often as the bot said.. and you were wrong to begin with about codecs
[16:02] <bazhang> Ttech: these are hectic channels at times
[16:02] <tacone> mrbrdo: VBNC = ?
[16:02] <Milotin>  can someone tell that if it's normal this : yesterday my network connection didn`t worked but the sound yes. when i managed to solve my network problem the sound crashed and when i tried to solve the sound the network crashed
[16:02] <Milotin> i guess is some sort of conflict between them
[16:02] <mrbrdo> visual basic . net compiler
[16:02] <Milotin> can someone help me fix this ?
[16:02] <vishal> Jack_Sparrow: when i switch from vm or direct boot because of a new set of hardware it kills the activating and i need to activate again
[16:02] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way to install a video codec for x32 Windows on amd64 Gutsy? It is the EnSharpen codec which afaik is not in any repos.
[16:02] <vishal> TheEagle: are you in windows?
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> vishal: That isnt a major problem, glad you got it working.
[16:03] <Ttech> Jack_Sparrow,  but I was never talking about codec.
[16:03]  * esking slaps esking around a bit with a large trout
[16:03] <Ttech> Anyway...
[16:03] <kurt_> how can i search for something that is installed
[16:03] <Leo1989> Guys, how to allow users to manage VPN connection? I mean <pon> command without sudo. How to do it?
[16:04] <kurt_> or searching whatsover
[16:04] <vishal> Jack_Sparrow: yh its not major, slighly slow because it not an awesome pc, but works never the less. i heard there is a limit on activating so im just not gonna use it on VMware
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kurt_: you can make a list of everything installed with info from the bot on cloning your syste,
[16:04]  * nonix4 frowns on them trouts that don't seem to know better... yet
[16:04] <bullgard4> I do not understand line 340 in http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/23981/. Why is it necessary to test the existence of the file 85-anacron.sh instead of simply trying to run it?
[16:04] <bazhang> kurt_: apt-cache search package or related will yield what your repos have
[16:05] <Shimfs_> hmm i have just installed ubuntu for the first time. I have finally made it to the desktop. I have tried the broadcom Offline (0.3.2)Installer
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> bullgard4: This isnt the place for programming help
[16:05] <Shimfs_> i did not work. Instead my mouse hangs every 3 sec or so as long as i have wireless enabled
[16:05] <Shimfs_> but i cant even get internet when i plug in my stationary computers wired cable
[16:05] <Shimfs_> it wont work .S
[16:05] <Shimfs_> :S
[16:05] <kurt_> and if i just wanna look for something, in this case i installed some game with crossover but don't find it
[16:06] <vishal> shimfs wireless is a problem when it locked to full speed
[16:06] <kurt_> can' i do a simple disk search ?
[16:06] <Ranpha1> I need to find to which TTY my sierra moden is connectd to how do i do this?
[16:06] <Shimfs_> vishal, how to unlock it then
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kurt_: as in places serach for file?
[16:06] <kurt_> Jack_Sparrow: that i do not understand
[16:06] <vishal> shimfs by default retours come with the setting of only the highest speed, but you need to reduce it
[16:06] <kurt_> yes
[16:06] <vishal> shimfs what router have u got?
[16:06] <nealmcb> I'm upgrading gutsy with apt-get , and just saw this very odd question:  Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done   serious bugs of linux-libc-dev (2.6.22-14.46 -> 2.6.22-14.47) <pending>   #435700 - keepalived: FTBFS: conflicting types for 'loff_t'     Merged with: 434040   #429064 - linux-libc-dev: <linux/types.h> conflicts with <sys/ustat.h> Summary:  linux-libc-dev(2 bugs) Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...]
[16:07] <Shimfs_> vishal, but i got a fast router, and 10mbit connection
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kurt_: click on places, click on search for files?
[16:07] <nealmcb> the bug numbers seem to be debian bugs....
[16:07] <Shimfs_> vishal, apple airport extreme
[16:07] <kurt_> Jack_Sparrow: yes as in places search for file
[16:07] <Shimfs_> vishal, and im on a WPA2 encrypted network.
[16:07] <noelferreira> hi have a pda (qtek 9100) and i want to synchronize it with gutsy. What should i do?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> RandyboY: Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS
[16:08] <esteth> can i tell ubuntu to give a group permission to access everything inside a folder, even if a new file is added to that folder, i should get permissions on it?
[16:08] <vishal> shimfs the problem isnt the router but the computer. because it cant keep up to the top speed its routing all its power to boost the speed, the computer then loose power for other resources which causes it to hang, to by reducing the spped on the router it will not want the computer to connect at top speed
[16:08] <crush_groove> esteth,  chmod --help in terminal
[16:08] <vishal> shimfs try turning of the encryption and see if that helps
[16:09] <worldcitizen09> Jack one last thing, how can I register my name with password at this channel
[16:09] <vishal> sorry guys gonna go check on my lunch, shimfs message me when im back if you need more help
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[16:09] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[16:09] <Shimfs_> vishal, but then i cant use the router. because it requires that encryption, and its not me that controls th router
[16:09] <Shimfs_> vishal, ok thanks vishal
[16:09] <noelferreira> hi have a pda (qtek 9100) and i want to synchronize it with gutsy. What should i do?
[16:09] <TheEagle> vishal: no
[16:10] <kurt_> i installed games with crossover, search for file cannot find them
[16:10] <TheEagle> but im trying vmware now
[16:10] <TheEagle> can i run rpms on ubuntu
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: no
[16:10] <crush_groove> no
[16:10] <bazhang> TheEagle: no
[16:10] <TheEagle> ok, cheers
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> TheEagle: and alien is not a good sloultion
[16:10] <TheEagle> What's alien
[16:10] <soroush> hi, where can i restart apache or other service in Ubuntu?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[16:10] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[16:11] <vishal> TheEagle: find out what version your using. when in windows go to start run, type in "winver" without the quotes, and find out weather it xp home, professional or media center, and also find out if its OEM or Retail
[16:11] <vishal> TheEagle: grab me what i come back after lunch
[16:11] <todd_> is there an easy way to make a movie my screensaver (.flv and I'd like it to loop)?
[16:11] <TheEagle> vishal: OEM, Home
[16:11] <vishal> TheEagle: kk i'll be back soon
[16:11] <TheEagle> o
[16:11] <TheEagle> k
[16:13] <Shimfs_> how to get my WIRED itnernet to work. :S
[16:13] <Scusio`sleep> buy a cable :')
[16:13] <Shimfs_> yeah, i got one, and its plugged in
[16:13] <Shimfs_> but i cant get a internet connection
[16:13] <lmosher> I'm trying to play some AVI files, and I get an error saying the file indicates it's a plain text file - does this sound like file corruption (I burned to DVD...) or lack of codec?
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: were you able to play them before you burned them?
[16:15] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow, On a windows PC, didn't try on Ubuntu
[16:15] <noelferreira> hi have a pda (qtek 9100) and i want to synchronize it with gutsy. What should i do?
[16:15] <sergiu> Servus
[16:15] <soroush> sorry
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: then it may be how they were encrypted back to dvd...
[16:15] <soroush> i got dc.
[16:16] <soroush> was there any answer to my q:  how can i restart apache or other service in Ubuntu?
[16:16] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow, I just used nero to burn, but perhaps the it didn't work - I didn't check. But it doesn't sound like a codec problem?
[16:16] <sergiu> hallo, salut, priwet, salam
[16:16] <rvega_arg> soroush: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:16] <J_Laptop> are there still scripts in /etc/init.d now that ubuntu uses upstart?
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: To may possibilities any of which could have done it..  If it plays in windows.. then it is code c if not, it was the encryption or other burning issue
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> many
[16:17] <rvega_arg>  hi everybody!!! somebody had problems with amule in ubuntu? The last part of my files always is corrupt and i can't find nothing in Google
[16:18] <worldcitizen09> hi there
[16:18] <Andycasss> How to chmod 777 including subdirs?
[16:18] <bazhang> rvega_arg: I recall seeing something in the forums--perhaps you could look there
[16:18] <soroush> rvega_arg, what about other services? i used yast2 in OpenSuse?
[16:18] <worldcitizen09> Jack and all, many thanks for your help
[16:18] <rvega_arg> Andycasss: dhmod -R 777 dir
[16:18] <Andycasss> rvega_arg: thank you
[16:18] <Shimfs> hmm still wont work with wired internet either
[16:19] <soroush> what is used in Ubuntu? , rvega_arg
[16:19] <rvega_arg> soroush: you want something like a service manager?
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> worldcitizen09: Sorry it was not a better answer.. but automatix.. is never the solution
[16:19] <zorg_the_false> q. any ssh user around ? i got 2 ubuntu and do ssh between the 2. but after some time the connection freeze. any hint on how to fix that ?
[16:19] <soroush> rvega_arg, yes.
[16:19] <rvega_arg> soroush: System > Administration > Services
[16:19] <edgy> hi, any one had a Dell XPS 1330 here?
[16:19] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow, Hrm I'll try in vbox...
[16:20] <J_Laptop> zorg - there's a keep-alive option in /etc/ssh/ssh_config, IIRC
[16:20] <rvega_arg> soroush: but maybe there is another tool more advanced that i don't know
[16:20] <crush_groove>  wow good info J_Laptop
[16:20] <J_Laptop> I've run into the same problem
[16:20] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow, Dunno why I didn't think of that earlier - file plays just fine in media player classic with CCCP codecs (for anime). So now, any ideas why it won't play in mplayer?
[16:21] <crush_groove> too
[16:21] <Andycasss> also, how to check current permissions (chmod) on dir?
[16:22] <soroush> rvega_arg, the one in system menu can't restart the services. thanks anyway
[16:22] <store> is there a way that I can make my computer's power button do nothing when pressed. right now it asks me what to do.
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: That sure helped identify the problem eh..  I suggest you go through the links on restricted...
[16:23] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow, I think I have all the nonfree codecs installed and such. Is there a big list of all the packages I should install somewhere?
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted > lmosher
[16:23] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way to install a video codec for x32 Windows on amd64 Gutsy? It is the EnSharpen codec which isn't available for any flavor of *nix
[16:23] <lmosher> thanks
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:23] <noelferreira> hi have a pda (qtek 9100) and i want to synchronize it with gutsy. What should i do?
[16:23] <crush_groove> Jack_Sparrow, the carrot makes it a pm ?
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes
[16:24] <WorkingOnWise> noelferreira: what OS is on it?
[16:24] <caravel> WorkingOnWise: I used synaptic to install the meta package on amd64, working straigth forward
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !lol > crush_groove
[16:24] <crush_groove> nodz
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> crush_groove: Sorry could not resist
[16:24] <WorkingOnWise> caravel: what meta package?
[16:24] <caravel> WorkingOnWise: hold on
[16:24] <lmosher> Jack_Sparrow, ok -this- is weird. In console I get an I/O error when trying to copy the files, yet it plays fine in windows? What on earth?
[16:24] <MrPiracy> how can I install Google Earth package on a gutsy x64 using an Intel video card?
[16:25] <crush_groove> DOESNT reply"LOL"
[16:25] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, windows mobile i guess.
[16:25] <jack> can anyone help me with updating firefox?
[16:25] <caravel> WorkingOnWise: non-free-codecs (on medibuntu repository)
[16:25] <komputes> Does anyone know why Wine is not removing files to my gnome trash?
[16:26] <WorkingOnWise> noelferreira: youl need to know for sure. there a couple solutions for you but they are OS version specific.
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: ugh.. not sure..
[16:26] <komputes> or, better yet, which dir does wine send trash to
[16:26] <lmosher> Anyone know why a DVD w/ avi files would give an I/O error when trying to copy, yet works fine in vmware?
[16:26] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, windows mobile 5
[16:26] <WorkingOnWise> caravel: it has an ensharpen codec?
[16:26] <MrPiracy> how can i install vmware on a fresh install of gutsy gibbon?
[16:27] <caravel> WorkingOnWise: no idea, sorry :)
[16:27] <jack> how can i update firefox?
[16:27] <crush_groove> !vmware
[16:27] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[16:27] <WorkingOnWise> noelferreira: then syncce/multisync and Evolution should work nicely. I have used it for my WM 2003 befoer, and say then that WM5 was also a go.
[16:27] <WorkingOnWise> noelferreira: synce
[16:27] <caravel> jack use synaptic
[16:28] <lmosher> MrPiracy, with the installer? Are you having any issues with it?
[16:28] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, can you give me an howto?
[16:28] <MrPiracy> ubotu: thanks
[16:28] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:28] <MrPiracy> lmosher: yes, won't install
[16:28] <jack> caravel: is totally lost ... lil more help please?
[16:28] <brobostigon> crush_groove: if there is an update to firefox in the ubuntu repos, sudo apt-get upgrade will update it.
[16:28] <lmosher> MrPiracy, Hrm I had no issues. You're trying to install vmware workstation?
[16:28] <WorkingOnWise> google "sync evolution Windows Mobile "
[16:29] <crush_groove> passes that to Jack
[16:29] <MrPiracy> lmosher: yes
[16:29] <komputes> VMWare only works on gutsy, if you compile it yourself
[16:29] <dickfacemanx> how do i look up my system specs???
[16:29] <jack> thanx
[16:29] <caravel> jack which version of firefox from/to do you want to upgrade ?
[16:29] <T1m0thy> Should I upgrade to the latest kernel? I've heard it breaks the system..
[16:29] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, i was thinking on install a fresh install of windows mobile in the pda. can i perform it using synce?
[16:29] <lmosher> MrPiracy, What error are you getting?
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> T1m0thy: If in doubt , hold off for a couple days
[16:30] <T1m0thy> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks.
[16:30] <dickfacemanx> how do i look up my system specs???
[16:30] <BlackB> i installed the latest ati gfx drivers (7.12) on my Ubuntu 7.10. everything worked out fine, i just can't see any opengl-output, like when running glxgears. anyone else has issues with 7.12 drivers?
[16:30] <MrPiracy> lmosher: hold on, i'll try to install it again
[16:30] <WorkingOnWise> noelferreira: u want to reinstall WM on you pda?
[16:30] <crush_groove>  Jack_Sparrow  is there any compelling reason to update your kernel at all so long as you are within a few versions of the newest stable version ?
[16:31] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, yes
[16:31] <Andycasss> how to check current permissions (chmod) on dir?
[16:31] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, i'll need windows?
[16:31] <rvega_arg> Andycasss:  ls -la dir
[16:31] <Andycasss> rvega_arg: thanks
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> crush_groove: other than security issues.. I would not think so..   I usually hold off a bit on them
[16:31] <rvega_arg> Andycasss: yw
[16:31] <steelmole> how do I fix a broken package, it's stopping me do anything with apt-get or synaptic, the package is linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:31] <caravel> would anyone be so kind to look at this kernel log ? gutsy froze the other night, caps lock was blinking on this Asus V1S laptop, had to hard-reboot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49280/ thanks
[16:32] <WorkingOnWise> noelferreira: for that u just do a hard reset. Wont need a pc at all. google your pda modle and "hard reset" together, or look in the index or the user manual.
[16:32] <WorkingOnWise> Gotta go. bbl
[16:32] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, what is the name of synce package?
[16:32] <MrPiracy> lmosher: i guess I dont really know what to do with this file vmware-install.pl
[16:32] <vishal> im back
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !info rsync
[16:32] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[16:32] <lmosher> MrPiracy, Make it executable (chmod +x filename). Then "./vmware-install.pl"
[16:33] <MrPiracy> lmosher: ok, hold on
[16:33] <soroush> where are configuration files and default htdocs for my apache
[16:33] <soroush> ?
[16:33] <soroush> i installed it using synaptic package manager
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lmosher: You cant say Pearl without smiling...
[16:33] <noogen> MrPiracy: what ubuntu version? 7.10 gutsy?
[16:34] <vishal> Can someone help me instal realvnc
[16:34] <brobostigon> soroush: most config files are in /etc
[16:34] <Milotin> My sound doesn`t work , what can i do ? I run Ubuntu 7.10
[16:34] <MrPiracy> noogen: yes
[16:34] <soroush> moreover, however i installed php too but php doesn't work for me
[16:34] <vishal> Milotin: do you have onboard sound?
[16:34] <Milotin> yes , as far as i know
[16:34] <soroush> brobostigon, thanks but configuration files look strange for me on ubuntu
[16:35] <soroush> i feel their names differ
[16:35] <vishal> Milotin: so you have both onboard and a soundcard?
[16:35] <noogen> MrPiracy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591732
[16:35] <brobostigon> soroush: in my experience most config files are the same as the sytem i used to use, debian.
[16:36] <MrPiracy> lmosher: This version of "VMware Workstation" is incompatible with this operating
[16:36] <MrPiracy> system.  Please install the "x86_64" version of this program instead.
[16:36] <nealmcb> My question about apt-get upgrade and " Parsing Found/Fixed information" turns out to be some pretty confusing output of apt-listbugs.   sigh....
[16:37] <Milotin> vishal,  i don`t know ...
[16:37] <noogen> get vmware server, you running 64bit server?
[16:37] <lmosher> MrPiracy, If you're running 64-bit ubuntu you'll need 64bit vmware
[16:38] <Milotin> i know that is a Via VT82xx Realtek ALC 660 , i guess it isn`t onboard
[16:38] <Milotin> it`s a sound card
[16:38] <vishal> Milotin: on the top panel, where it shows the time, double click the sound icon
[16:38] <MrPiracy> noogen, lmosher: will vmware server version allow me to create/edit VM's and run them?
[16:38] <noogen> yes it does
[16:38] <vishal> Milotin: then go to file > change device and check if your soundcard is number 0
[16:39] <lmosher> ok this is REALLY weird: I have a DVD I burned with avi files. I can't copy the files in ubuntu (I/O error), but I can run vmware and copy the file from the VM to ubuntu and it will play fine. Any ideas why I can't properly read from my DVD?
[16:39] <ReS|UK> Heya I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 and I am having some problems getting the cd to boot, just wondered if someone could help me please.
[16:39] <edunagin> I use UbuntuStudio 7.10 and I am trying to get IBM's ViaVoice running. I get  an error which says I need  libdb.so.2,but I do not have it and can't find out how to load it. Apt-get does not solve this for me. any ideas?
[16:39] <Milotin> vishal it says No volume control GSteamer plugins and/or devices found
[16:39] <MrPiracy> noogen: ok, i'm gonna try it later, but i have another question now, i guess vishal is responding it to milotin
[16:39] <steelmole> ReS|UK: have you looked at any settings for boot order in your bios?
[16:40] <ubuntux> someone know a nice tool to print cd covers with?
[16:40] <ReS|UK> Yeah, sorry, it boots the cd but then hangs after I choose to Install Ubuntu from the splash screen.
[16:40] <vishal> Milotin: give me a second i'll find you a link
[16:40] <vishal> MrPiracy: do you get the same error message?
[16:40] <steelmole> ReS|UK: is it the 64 bit version?
[16:40] <Milotin> ok vishal
[16:40] <Chris_ubuntu> Hallo
[16:41] <ReS|UK> steelmole: No it's the 32 bit version. It gets stuck and the message is
[16:41] <Sharpie> for some reason bootchart stopped working. any ideas?
[16:41] <ikonia> Sharpie: bootchart ?
[16:41] <Chris_ubuntu> Wer hat lust mir beim Thema "ndiswrapper" zu helfen?
[16:41] <MrPiracy> vishal: not an error message, i have both onboard (intel hd audio) and a soundcard (c-media), both installed correctly (i guess), but i want to turn SDA as default audio device
[16:41] <Sharpie> ikonia: bootchart.
[16:41] <ikonia> !de > Chris_ubuntu
[16:41] <ReS|UK> steelmole: Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 19541088
[16:41] <bazhang> german Chris_ubuntu?
[16:41] <ikonia> Sharpie: are you using it as an application ?
[16:41] <vishal> MrPiracy: give me a second
[16:41] <Sharpie> ikonia: do you know what bootchart is?
[16:42] <ikonia> Sharpie: yes, maps your boot process
[16:42] <Sharpie> ikonia: right, and it's not working.
[16:42] <steelmole> ReS|UK: what state is your harddrive in? no partitions? windows partition?
[16:42] <Chris_ubuntu> Oh sorry - Yeah - I will go into a german room
[16:42] <vishal> Milotin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?highlight=%28sound%29
[16:42] <ikonia> Sharpie: ok, so are you launching it as an application, or setting it to log / generate at boot time
[16:42] <ikonia> Sharpie: and define "not working"
[16:42] <Sharpie> ikonia: not doing what it's supposed to do. as in, generate the image.
[16:42] <ReS|UK> steelmole: It currently has a windows partion on it. Working fine.
[16:42] <vishal> MrPiracy: do both devices produce sound?
[16:42] <ikonia> Sharpie: ok, so what happens ?
[16:43] <Sharpie> ikonia: nothing
[16:43] <noelferreira> WorkingOnWise, what packages of synce should i install ?
[16:43] <soroush_> brobostigon, for example httpd.conf is empty. btw, Don't you know any solution for enabling php on my system
[16:43] <soroush_> it is already installed
[16:43] <steelmole> ReS|UK: Hmmm, I'm not sure then
[16:43] <soroush_> ,
[16:43] <MrPiracy> vishal: i didnt try the c-media cos i have nothings attached to it, but i guess SDA is working properly
[16:43] <ikonia> Sharpie: so it luanches ok, and it has just stopped generating images ?
[16:43] <Sharpie> ikonia: bootchart doesn't launch |:
[16:43] <vanderek> hello @ all
[16:43] <MrPiracy> vishal: login screen's beep comes out of SDA
[16:43] <ikonia> Sharpie: ok - so it doesn't launch, this is what I mean about reporting things correctly, rather than "not doing what it's supposed to"
[16:43] <MrPiracy> vishal HDA, sorry
[16:44] <ReS|UK> Anyone else have any idea why I am getting that error?
[16:44] <ReS|UK> steelmole: Thanks anyway.
[16:44] <ikonia> Sharpie: what happens when you launch it from a terminal
[16:44] <vishal> MrPiracy: try the c-media, and btw SDA is ur harddrive i think
[16:44] <Sharpie> ikonia: i mean, bootchart doesn't launch at all
[16:44] <Sharpie> ikonia: you can't launch bootchart from a terminal :/
[16:44] <ikonia> Sharpie: right - so the problem is "boot chart doesn't launch"
[16:44] <ikonia> Sharpie: what happens when you launch it from a terminal  ?
[16:44]  * chtank is looking in on you from his old Dell 486 machine running Ubuntu 5.04
[16:44] <Sharpie> ikonia: are you being serious here?
[16:44] <vanderek> i have a notebook with ati x1400 and installed the lates ati proprietery driver 8.443.1
[16:44] <MrPiracy> vishal:  i meant HDA - High Definition Audio from intel onboard (946-gz)
[16:44] <ikonia> Sharpie: yes, I'm being serious
[16:45] <vishal> MrPiracy: HDA is also harddrive
[16:45] <Sharpie> ikonia: bootchart runs at boot, it can't be started manually :/
[16:45] <vishal> MrPiracy: check if ur c-media produces sound
[16:45] <ikonia> Sharpie: ughhhhh, thats why I asked earlier if you where launching it as an application or at boot time
[16:45] <Sharpie> ikonia: it simply isn't the type of program you launch from a terminal
[16:45] <ikonia> Sharpie: it can be used as an application to probe the init scripts
[16:45] <vanderek> i've read that the catalyst 7.2 now support suspend and hibernate
[16:45] <MrPiracy> vishal: yes it's playing right now
[16:45] <ikonia> Sharpie: thats why I was asking you how you where using it
[16:45] <Sharpie> ikonia: ok. boot.
[16:45] <vishal> MrPiracy: sorry, what are you trying to do?
[16:45] <ikonia> Sharpie: right, so has it every worked ?
[16:46] <vanderek> i tried but it wont wake up from suspend correctly
[16:46] <Sharpie> ikonia: yup
[16:46] <Milotin> vishal,
[16:46] <ikonia> Sharpie: what changed to stop it working ?
[16:46] <ikonia> Sharpie: eg: any updates
[16:46] <MrPiracy> i'm trying to get linux and all other programs to use onboard sound instead of c-media
[16:46] <Milotin> every website sends me to http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[16:46] <Sharpie> ikonia: if i knew that i wouldn't be here
[16:46] <ikonia> Sharpie: tell you what, help your self. I'm tired of your smart answers while I'm trying to get any sort of facts out of you
[16:46] <Milotin> where i should search my soundcar manufacture
[16:47] <mular> hey I have two soundcards installed, general system sounds are working from the right one (soundblaster card) but wine insist on using the internal.. any ideas?
[16:47] <vishal> Milotin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?highlight=%28sound%29   ready the section under general help
[16:47] <Sharpie> ikonia: you're simply asking me if i know why the problem occures, if i knew that i wouldn't have come here :/
[16:47] <vishal> Milotin: it talks about the sound device not found
[16:47] <Milotin> ok
[16:47] <vanderek> now i look at the catalyst informations and there is the correct driverversion but the catalyst control center version is 1.7
[16:47] <ikonia> Sharpie: no, re-read what I said, eg: any updastes applied etc
[16:47] <vleon> im out of ideas, i installed the latest catalyst driver, ad 7.11 wich worked fine with a good xorg.conf (my manual configuration) and both composite and aiglx worked, now i removed it and installed all the latest kernel updates and on them the catalys 7.12 and it doesnt recognize my resolution 1680x1050 and compiz doesnt seem to work
[16:47] <vanderek> and not the 7.2
[16:47] <MrPiracy> vishal: i'm trying to get linux and all other programs to use onboard sound instead of c-media
[16:47] <vishal> brb
[16:47] <Milotin> Failure - You will have not found the driver for your soundcard chipset. (at the moment I cannot help you, but stay tuned!)
[16:47] <ikonia> Sharpie: as you are unable to report any technical details I'm attempting to pull them out of you
[16:47] <vanderek> can anybody help?
[16:48] <Sharpie> ikonia: but i don't know when it stopped working exactly, and there obviously have been updates sometime during its installation
[16:48] <vishal> MrPiracy: so you want to stop the c-media from giving out sound?
[16:48] <bazhang> vleon: that only works with red hat and suse
[16:48] <ikonia> Sharpie: right so the answer is "I don't know when it stopped working"
[16:48] <ikonia> Sharpie: not the trying to be smart attitude you're giving me
[16:48] <Sharpie> ikonia: alright :|
[16:49] <MrPiracy> vishal: i have a cordless phone attached to c-media so i use it only with programs like skype or msn or icq, all other sounds i want to come out from intel's HDA
[16:49]  * chtank sees this place has too many users to be of any help to anyone, I shall go elsewhere
 i used this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[16:49] <MrPiracy> vishal: my HDA onboard has my speakers attached to it
[16:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy vleon look here
[16:50] <vleon> thanks
[16:50] <bazhang> no problem
[16:50] <ReS|UK> Quick question is sda the hdd?
[16:50] <bullgard4> I do not understand line 340 in http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/23981/. Why is it necessary to test the existence of the file 85-anacron.sh instead of simply trying to run it?
[16:51] <vishal> MrPiracy: hmm im not sure, sorry
[16:51] <AndrukTatum> !rootkit
[16:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootkit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:51] <Milotin> vishal, at one Step i have this : Failure - You will have not found the driver for your soundcard chipset. (at the moment I cannot help you, but stay tuned!)
[16:51] <MrPiracy> vishal: is there a way to choose with soundcard linux will use to play sounds?
[16:51] <Milotin> some the website can`t help me
[16:52] <lmosher> I can't get an AVI file to play.  What's strange is the icon shows a good image?
[16:52] <vishal> MrPiracy: sorry, im actually new to linux aswell, just started last wednesday lol
[16:52] <bazhang> lmosher compiz running?
[16:52] <vishal> Milotin: hmm, hold on
[16:52] <lmosher> lmosher, Yeah. I've never seen that as an issue before?
[16:52] <brobostigon> i have used linux for 7 years in various ways.
[16:52] <Sharpie> ikonia: btw, how can you run it manually?
[16:53] <bazhang> lmosher try disabling it first
[16:53] <ikonia> Sharpie: you need to setup a process that probes the init script links
[16:53] <lmosher> bazhang, Yeah I'll give that a shot
[16:53] <mular> any idea how to set a default soundcard with the program wine? if I disable onboard sound wine uses the right one but I like using skype with my onboard sound and everything else soundblaster card - but wine won't obey system sound preferences?
[16:53] <vishal> Milotin: type this into your terminal: aplay -l
[16:53] <lmosher> bazhang, nope, same thing
 the guide said nothing
[16:53] <Sharpie> ikonia: nvm, anyway i manuallt update my initramfs, i'll reboot and see if it works
[16:53] <vishal> Milotin: and tell me what it says
[16:53] <Sharpie> ikonia: manually* updated*
[16:53] <MrPiracy> vishal: oh ok, no problem .... i'm gonna try to figure it out
[16:53] <ryker_> can anyone help me, i applied updates, and now my file associations in gnome are all gone system wide
[16:53] <Milotin> oot@master:/proc/asound# aplay -l
[16:53] <Milotin> aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
[16:54] <vishal> MrPiracy: sorry about that
[16:54] <bazhang> vleon: the 7.12 does not work with ubuntu iirc
[16:54] <vleon> only 7.12?
[16:54] <bazhang> vleon: 7.11 worked right? stick with it then
[16:54] <zorg_the_false> !tab
[16:54] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:54] <lmosher> I'll brb
[16:55] <vleon> well thanks anyway
[16:55] <esteth> How do i tell nautilus that i don't freaking care if an application is currently using this device. I want it ejected. I don't want it to tell me i can't. I just want to eject the CD.
[16:55] <ikonia> esteth: I can guess you start by dropping the lanaguage
[16:55] <ikonia> esteth: there is no need for "freakin care"
[16:56] <MrPiracy> vishal: lol it was soooo easy, just got into SYSTEM / PREFS / SOUND
[16:56] <MrPiracy> vishal: just like windows
[16:56] <mular> so no one knows if you can set a default soundcard with wine?
[16:56] <ikonia> esteth: in regard to your problem, an application is using the device so it won't allow you to eject the cdrom as it's in use
[16:56] <esteth> sorry, i wasn't aware most people treated that as "language" It's just a term for exaggerated anger here.
[16:56] <sas3> hey. im looking for a remote backup soloution that i can also control and verify that its backed up... i saw backuppc .. is that good enough or what is the most popular software for linux today?
[16:56] <ikonia> esteth: it's totally uncalled for attitude
[16:56] <dagon^> hay guys
[16:57] <ikonia> mular: some guys in #winehq will know off the top of their head
[16:57] <mular> ah ok thanks for the tip
[16:57] <luckybamboo> can someone please take a look at his folder /usr/share/fonts/truetype and tell me who is the owner of the subfolder and which rights?
[16:57] <esteth> ikonia: Sorry. I'm just getting frustrated. I want the CD to eject regardless of what's using it. Let that program crash if it needs to, but i want the CD back :S
[16:57] <ikonia> sas3: there are many backup programs, search through synaptic
[16:57] <vishal> MrPiracy: and it lets you select what application can use the souncard??
[16:57] <ikonia> esteth: thats not possible as the OS puts a lock on it
[16:57] <sas3> yeah. there is too many. i dont know what is the best
[16:57] <sas3> :)
[16:57] <luckybamboo> i changed mine and forgot the original rights/owner
[16:57] <ikonia> sas3: thats personal opinion, it's hard to say what's the best
[16:58] <Sharpie> ikonia: still not working
[16:58] <esteth> ikonia: Is there any way to find out what's using the CD and kill it myself?
[16:58] <MrPiracy> vishal: it will let you choose which sound device you want to use for playing audio or for video conferencing
[16:58] <ikonia> sas3: you can range anything from tar through to say veritas netbackup and everything between
[16:58] <ikonia> esteth: fuser /dev/$your_cdrom_device ?
[16:58] <sas3> what are you guys using?
[16:58] <ikonia> sas3: doesn't matter what we are using our needs may be different
[16:58] <morphles> is there any way to see what applications are accessing hdd ?
[16:59] <morphles> and how much/how often
[16:59] <ikonia> morphles: accessing it what way ?
[16:59] <vishal> MrPiracy: yeah, i just saw, thats a good future reference, glad you got it working
[16:59] <vishal> brb
[16:59] <ikonia> morphles: Hmmm quite hard to be that granualar
[16:59] <morphles> jus reading/writing
[16:59] <MrPiracy> vishal: i'm also new to linux, so i didn't even know there was a sound icon under prefs
[16:59] <MrPiracy> vishal: ;)
[17:00] <Sharpie> my bootchart isn't working (doesn't generate image at boot). any ideas?
[17:00] <morphles> sometimes i getwierd hdd activity and id like to know what is responsible for that i just had one aind i gues it was clamav but i wish to be sure
[17:00] <bazhang> morphles: use top in the terminal
[17:00] <luckybamboo> hey, please tell me your settings of /usr/share/fonts/
[17:00] <ikonia> morphles: ok - so I can suggest running iostat 2 in a window on boot, then when you start getting funny behaviour see if you can see what is happening on your disk
[17:00] <ikonia> morphles: that's a good way to start
[17:01] <morphles> k
[17:01] <MrPiracy> anyone know of a irc client better than xchat?
[17:01] <morphles> i checked with htop but it does not show hdd access o i couldnt tell
[17:01] <Sharpie> MrPiracy:irssi
[17:01] <ikonia> morphles: xchat, bitchX, irrsi
[17:01] <ikonia> morphles: you pick
[17:01] <ikonia> morphles: try them
[17:01] <morphles> what?
[17:01] <ikonia> morphles: one step at a time
[17:01] <crush_groove> none are really better .. just different
[17:01] <Sharpie> ikonia: he asked for a client better than -xchat- and you offered him -xchat- :|
[17:01] <ikonia> morphles: sorry, that was for MrPiracy
[17:01] <morphles> :)
[17:01] <ikonia> Sharpie: yes,
[17:02] <morphles> irssi is good :D
[17:02] <ikonia> Sharpie: there are multiple versions of xchat
[17:02] <Sharpie> ikonia: anyway, any ideas about the bootchart issue?
[17:02] <ikonia> Sharpie: I don't really want to debug it with you due to your attitude
[17:03] <Sharpie> ikonia: omg noez =[
[17:03] <ikonia> Sharpie: I don't appriciate getting attitude from someone who is incapabable od detailing a problem then gets an attitude with me dor dragging the correct info out of him. Sorry
[17:03] <MrPiracy> ikonia: would you please repeat what you said? xchat .... ?
[17:03] <ikonia> MrPiracy: xchat (not xchat-gnome) irssi or bitchx - there are others but they are the mains
[17:03] <bazhang> MrPiracy: konversation
[17:03] <SAngeli> 2 questions: 1) How to make application start automatically when I turn my pc on? 2) What is a good package for picture (from digital camera) management? I have been using under kubuntu digikam. Now that I switch to ubuntu, anything similar but better for gnome?
[17:04] <phil14> bonjour
[17:04] <MrPiracy> ikonia: ok, thanks
[17:05] <morphles> argh silly me, that hdd probably was jus rtorrent in screen...
[17:05] <ikonia> morphles: well spotted
[17:05] <phade> maybe anybody got the perl llama ebook?
[17:05] <esteth> ikonia: Thanks. That command should have worked i think but didn't display anything. I got wine to do it with "wine eject"
[17:05] <SAngeli> Anyone, any idea?
[17:06] <ikonia> esteth: ahhhh so your cd is being controlled under wine ?
[17:06] <ikonia> esteth: it's probably wine as an application that's locking your cdrom
[17:06] <ikonia> esteth: probably
[17:06] <Sharpie> SAngeli: 1)add it to Sessions (under Preferences)
[17:06] <MrPiracy> ikonia: sorry, i'm 200% new to ubuntu, could you also tell me other good programs for torrent and a good audio player (does winamp work with linux?)
[17:07] <KaZeR> hi there
[17:07] <Sharpie> MrPiracy: my favorite music player is banshee, and azureus is good for torrents. deluge is good as well
[17:07] <KaZeR> Fatal server error:
[17:07] <KaZeR> No valid FontPath could be found. -> can anyone help?
[17:07] <ikonia> MrPiracy: mplayer, sound juicer, xmms - all audio players, there are many for you to try
[17:07] <ahmad>  MrPiracy use amule
[17:07] <esteth> ikonia: I'm doing a multi-disk install under wine, but i was thinking perhaps wine was making a process that was blocking the CD-Drive or something. Obviously i didn't want to kill the installer itself. Maybe i should have been more specific with my original question
[17:07] <ikonia> MrPiracy: torrents, Hmmm, rtorrent seems to be a solid tool
[17:07] <ikonia> KaZeR: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you'll see a path to fonts, if none are valid, X won't start
[17:07] <KaZeR> rtorrent is very nice
[17:07] <SAngeli> Sharpie:  how to find the application if I only know the name of it? Example: I wish to autstart Pidgin. How would I go?
[17:07] <bazhang> transmission MrPiracy
[17:07] <StoneNote> if you're using kde, I recommend ktorrent
[17:08] <KaZeR> ikonia, what should i do to add thoses fonts? (i guess i'm missing a package)
[17:08] <ikonia> esteth: yup, wine looks a likley candidate, and yes, better to be up front in future, but no big deal
[17:08] <ikonia> KaZeR: is this a server install by any chance ?
[17:08] <m1> whenever i turn on compiz, i cannot move a window above my screen. what do i need to do, so i can move windows to the top of my screen again?(using alt+drag window up)
[17:08] <Sharpie> SAngeli: use its bin name, for pidgin it's pidgin. if you wanna look for anything else you can look at the shortcut in the menu editor.
[17:08] <SAngeli> I see
[17:08] <MrPiracy> sharpie, ikonia, almad, bazhang: thanks
[17:09] <KaZeR> ikonia, kubuntu, install text-only, then installed xorg-server
[17:09] <bazhang> MrPiracy: no worries :}
[17:09] <ikonia> KaZeR: so your using a server install
[17:09] <ikonia> KaZeR: why are you using a server insall ?
[17:10] <MrPiracy> almad: is amule something like emule for windows?
[17:10] <KaZeR> ikonia, because i just need X, and a specific app. nothing else
[17:10] <ikonia> KaZeR: the desktop CD will be fine, your making it over complicated for yourself for no-reason
[17:10] <ahmad> yes amule like emule
[17:11] <ubuntux> someone know how i can print a cd cover ??
[17:11] <MrPiracy> almad: ok
[17:11] <ikonia> ubuntux: print as in on to paper
[17:11] <KaZeR> ikonia, i don't see why i should install 100 packages if i don't need them..
[17:11] <ubuntux> ikonia, har har, i need to print it at the right sizes etc
[17:12] <ikonia> KaZeR: because it's clear you won't be able to run the machine without the apporpirate tools
[17:12] <crush_groove> ubuntux,  create it on your desktop .. use your printer software to crop or edit and print
[17:12] <ikonia> KaZeR: you'll find it easier to install the desktop, and it's not hundreds of packages, there are only a few between the server and desktop
[17:12] <crush_groove> ubuntux,  you can import into gimp and edit also
[17:12] <edgy_> hi, any one had a Dell XPS 1330 here?
[17:12] <ikonia> ubuntux: what format is the cd cover in, I suggest looking at inskape
[17:12] <osotogari> has anyone installed xbuntu on an Asus EEE?
[17:12] <ikonia> ubuntux: inkscpae has an option for cdrom covers
[17:13] <ikonia> edgy_: yes, on one now
[17:13] <KaZeR> ikonia, i just seem to lack a font package. you really can't jump from console to X install?
[17:13] <edunagin> Is this for UStudio?
[17:13] <ikonia> KaZeR: you'll have to downloads 100's of megs worth of packages to get a working desktop
[17:13] <ahmad> what is the bist pci dail up modem  we can use on ubuntu
[17:14] <ikonia> edunagin: you can ask or try #ubuntustudio
[17:14] <vishal> vishal:
[17:14] <ikonia> KaZeR: as I said, it's less effort and pain to use the desktop cd
[17:14] <edunagin> How do I do that?
[17:14] <ikonia> KaZeR: rather than download 100's of megs of packages to get a desktop
[17:14] <ikonia> edunagin: ask your question here or type "/join #ubuntustudio"
[17:15] <crush_groove> ikonia,  nice app reference this inkscape
[17:15] <ikonia> crush_groove: no problem, it is solid
[17:15] <KaZeR> well. i find that not really convenient. i don't see why it doesn't work. it should work. but thanks anyway
[17:15] <Sharpie> my bootchart isn't working (not generating image at startup). any ideas?
[17:15] <ikonia> KaZeR: it doesn't work because your missing packages as I've said
[17:15] <nelsonuwp> is linuxmce the best media center for linux?
[17:16] <KaZeR> that what is the dependency system for in that case?
[17:16] <osotogari> has anyone installed xbuntu on an Asus EEE?
[17:16] <ikonia> KaZeR: to get a working desktop you'll need to download 100's of megs of packages
[17:16] <ikonia> KaZeR: no xorg doesn't depend on fonts, but desktops do, and you've not installed a desktop yet
[17:16] <bazhang> osotogari: join #eeepc
[17:16] <KaZeR> ikonia, matchbox?
[17:16] <ikonia> KaZeR: matchbox ?
[17:16] <osotogari> @ bazhang: thanks
[17:16] <ahmad> i need to use a dial up modem on ubuntu ? so some unfo about modems please?
[17:16] <KaZeR> i don't want kde. matchbox or fluxbox will be fine
[17:17] <complexity> can someone tell me the solution for multi key press bug.. when I type something, it repeats the key and apt-get becomes appppppppptttttttttt---ggggeet
[17:17] <ikonia> KaZeR: then install all that then
[17:17] <ikonia> KaZeR: again, overkill on a server install
[17:17] <shamot> Hi, I have some serious problem getting ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso boot. I downloaded ISO, checked MD5 sum, burned it, checked if it is burned OK (md5 again), but when I am trying to boot it, it hangs on squashfs, no error output. Any idea? Or is there any way to switch 32bit version to 64bit version?
[17:17] <KaZeR> ikonia, this is an embedded system, i want to keep it light
[17:17] <mboldisc> I have a problem with bash at the command line. I try running something like eclipse and it fails with the following error: bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory.  Yes, the eclipse executable is in my directory.  Any ideas?
[17:17] <ikonia> KaZeR: an x86 embedded system ? I think not
[17:17] <googlebyte> ahmod-the only dial up modems that I've been able to get to work are external serial modems.
[17:18] <KaZeR> ikonia, media center on epia sp
[17:18] <ahmad> is there any winmodem(pci )
[17:18] <ikonia> mboldisc: unless eclipse is in your current working directory, just type "ecplipse" not "./eclipse"
[17:18] <ompaul> !winmodem | ahmad
[17:18] <ubotu> ahmad: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[17:19] <ikonia> KaZeR: epia is not embedded, it's just low voltage cpu
[17:19] <mular> anyone else find that firefox uses tons of your cpu occasionally?
[17:19] <ikonia> KaZeR: and the desktop version will not run much different to a server install (that is not meant for epia systems)
[17:19] <tacone> mular: try disabling all plugins.
[17:19] <ikonia> KaZeR: I strongly recommed using a desktop system and change the desktop if you're that bothered
[17:20] <J-E-L-L-0> So I have a server unning 7.10.. i added 2 320GB hdds to it, but im  not sure how to mount adn format those...  i want them all one partition (if theres nothing wrong with that approach) so each drive is a separate storage drive
[17:20] <jm> yaWNNN
[17:20] <jm> SAD
[17:20] <noolness> anyone know how to get openoffice to use the subpixel smoothing?
[17:20] <crush_groove> !ot
[17:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:20] <mular> don't really have any pluggins
[17:20] <mboldisc> mboldisc@computer:~/pdt$ ls eclipse
[17:20] <mboldisc> eclipse
[17:20] <ikonia> J-E-L-L-0: use fdisk or gparted to partition them. then mke2fs -j or gparted to format them
[17:20] <jm> HOW DO I HACK IN2 SUMONMES PC
[17:21] <mboldisc> lol
[17:21] <ikonia> ompaul: thanks
[17:21] <ompaul> ikonia, np
[17:21] <mx92> hi
[17:21] <Sharpie> my bootchart isn't working (not generating image at startup). any ideas?
[17:21] <vishal> can anyone help me with a hibernate issue?
[17:21] <mx92> sorry I've no ideas
[17:21] <ReS|UK> What do I add to the boot options line on the cd to force ACPI?
[17:22] <shamot> does anyone else have problem booting gutsy AMD64 live CD?
[17:22] <noolness> i enabled subpixel rendering in ubuntu and everything renders with subpixel font smoothing other than openoffice...is there a way to get openoffice to use subpixel font smoothing too? :)
[17:22] <_hufi_> is there a tool to crack wlan passwords with a brute force attack?
[17:23] <mx92> @shamot maybe you've download the normal live CD
[17:23] <bazhang> offtopic _hufi_
[17:23] <KaZeR> ikonia, i understand you reasons, but i really don't like this way of doing things
[17:23] <crush_groove> Sharpie,  are you on a dell ?
[17:23] <ahmad> how can i mount bin image in ubuntu ?
[17:23] <Sharpie> crush_groove: nope
[17:23] <ikonia> KaZeR: then you should know how to set things up
[17:23] <KaZeR> ahmad, bin2iso, then mount -o loop?
[17:23] <shamot> mx92, no I didnt, I checked that
[17:23] <ikonia> KaZeR: it's important to understand what your doing if you're going your own way
[17:24] <KaZeR> ikonia, i'm new to ubuntu. so i miss some things
[17:24] <_hufi_> is there a tool to crack wlan passwords with a brute force attack?
[17:24] <mx92> sorry but I can't help you
[17:24] <KaZeR> ikonia, i fully agree. but trials and errors are also a way to learn :)
[17:24] <ahmad> thanks ,
[17:24] <jvm123> hi. i use xorg v4.1 at the moment and never updated, because 4.2 broke my dual head configuration. now i tried ubuntu 7.10 on the live cd, because i heard of the new configuration tool. it detected both my monitors, but the options for using both of them at the same time are grayed out. any hint why?
[17:24] <ikonia> KaZeR: if you're new, all the more reason to take advice. I promise you the server install will not differ from the desktop, but the desktop will run better and be easier to maintain
[17:24] <vishal> can anyone help me with a hibernate issue?
[17:25] <Sharpie> !ask > vishal
[17:25] <ikonia> jvm123: are ou sure it's 4.1 ?
[17:25] <ahmad> but is there any open sorce software like damon on cd  in windows to mount image cd/dvd
[17:25] <KaZeR> ikonia, i might try that then.
[17:25] <vishal> Sharpie: when i load up from a hibernate, the screen is grey
[17:25] <ikonia> ahmad: mount it look back file system
[17:25] <jvm123> ikonia: at the moment its v4.1 under a debian system. i want to upgrade to ubuntu 7.10 with xorg 4.3
[17:25] <ikonia> KaZeR: once you've got it installed I'll help you shutdown anything extra you don't need
[17:26] <ikonia> jvm123: xorg 4.3 doesn't exist
[17:26] <ikonia> jvm123: xorg is currently on release 7.X
[17:26] <ahmad> soory ? what do you mean ?
[17:26] <jvm123> ikonia: sorry.
[17:26] <jvm123> ikonia: s/4.1/7.1/
[17:26] <ikonia> KaZeR: once you've installed the destkop I'll help you tune it down to a smaller footprint
[17:26] <jvm123> ikonia: s/4.3/7.3/
[17:26] <KaZeR> ikonia, thanks
[17:27] <ikonia> KaZeR: easier to sort that then help you do a crazy install
[17:27] <KaZeR> btw, i tried to hibernate, but network wasn't resumed after boot. what can i do?
[17:27] <ikonia> jvm123: ok, so what's the worry ?
[17:27] <Sharpie> ahmad: sudo aptitude install gmountiso