[10:27] <S_Dis> i had some questions with ubuntu-network that always Error!
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> dn5: yes
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  it's the double ss that may be confusing :p
[10:28] <dn5> let me check
[10:28] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, , no doubt :)
[10:28] <dn5> yep, works great. How could I not remember this :>
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> !yay | dn5
[10:29] <dn5> hehe :> One more question
[10:30] <dn5> sorry but I have to ask
[10:30] <dn5> My connection is very low when I fire up computer, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> dn5  10.04 desktop? if yes: it's !eol
[10:31] <dn5> I connect on wireless but the connection drop to 2 lines and the router is 3 meters far away.
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> dn5: we highly recommend you clean install newer version
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> dn5: (see topic)
[10:32] <dn5> I do agree lotuspsychje but I'm familiar with 9.04 so I switched to 10.04 LTS because they are very similar
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> dn5  but 10.04 for the desktop is dead, no longer supported or maintained
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> dn5: as MonkeyDust says its !eol for security reasons
[10:33] <dn5> !eol
[10:33] <dn5> ah.. :(
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> dn5: you can always install gnome fallback on newer ubuntu versions with unity
[10:35] <dn5> I know but I hate installing new environemnt, for me it's seems like creating own distro.
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> dn5: things have been simplified alot for you to install mate
[10:35] <dakotawulfy> yea but unity is not gnome 3 and a lot of people don't like new stuff
[10:35] <dn5> I don't know. I would like to stay with 10.04. I do understand it's not good and there are security flaws but...
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> dn5  http://regmedia.co.uk/2013/03/24/ubuntu_release_cycle.jpg
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> dn5: we cannot support eol versions sorry
[10:36] <dn5> ouch :(
[10:37] <dn5> thank you anyway for your time guys
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> dn5: better go with 12.04 LTS then with gnome classic on it (if you want similar feeling)
[10:38] <dn5> Yeah.. I think that could be final option. But damn.. I did a reinstallation yesterday, installed everything I need.
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> dn5  it's easy to upgrade from LTS to LTS
[10:39] <dn5> Bad, bad destiny.
[10:39] <S_Dis> .
[10:40] <roger21> how do i manually install a newer unsupported package, is it a dpkg -i <my newer package> ? and how do i reverse to the stable state
[10:40] <ikonia> roger21: whoaaa do'nt do that
[10:40] <ikonia> roger21: mixing package versions is a bad idea
[10:40] <dn5> conkyrc
[10:40] <ikonia> and forcing it with dpkg without matching dependencies will end bad
[10:40] <dn5> conky
[10:40] <dn5> lol
[10:40] <roger21> hmpf
[10:40] <dn5> wrong terminal
[10:41] <roger21> slighly newer like the 5th number
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> roger21: you will need the old deb
[10:41] <ikonia> roger21: yes, like the 5th number, also bad
[10:41] <ikonia> roger21: what do you want to upgrade and why ?
[10:41] <jcadduono> i sort of have a drive dying on a raid0 array, is there anything i can do to reduce the filesystem to the length of the remaining drives and sync them together to take out the faulty :(
[10:42] <roger21> well anyway i don't want to crash my system, i just want to troobleshot some bug
[10:42] <berryciderspider> guys is ubuntu server better than desktop if im running nginx, gunicorn, off it?
[10:42] <berryciderspider> postgres also
[10:42] <ikonia> berryciderspider: not really
[10:42] <ikonia> jcadduono: get data off those disks now
[10:43] <roger21> i wanted to ty that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls26/+bug/937537 to know if it is the same issue
[10:44] <ikonia> roger21: if thats got a fix released it should be in the repo
[10:44] <roger21> so it is fixed... well not for me
[10:45] <ikonia> roger21: have you installed the package with the fix released
[10:45] <roger21> i'm up2date
[10:45] <ikonia> roger21: that's not what I asked
[10:45] <ne0h> hello all
[10:45] <jcadduono> ikonia: is only thing i can do dd entire raid array to another drive? then how would i get the data back to the remaining drives?
[10:45] <ne0h> am trying to copy some files of about 1gb into my flash
[10:45] <ikonia> jcadduono: you don't - you have a raid stripe (bad idea) so you have no reduncency, and the slightest problem and ALL your data is gone
[10:45] <ne0h> and it is saying 8hours
[10:45] <Layke> Can someone clarify something about unix sockets?... Mainly what is the difference between a socket and just using a host and port? I'm using nginx to proxy pass fcgi requests to PHP, and some uses host:port and some examples use socket. (My nginx is running on a different host to PHP)
[10:46] <ikonia> jcadduono: back up the data now, and replace the failing disk, rebuild the raid array, then put the data back
[10:46] <ne0h> am trying to copy some files of about 1gb into my flash and it is saying 8hours
[10:46] <jcadduono> i can back up the data but how would i put it back?
[10:46] <ikonia> ne0h: you've just said that
[10:46] <roger21> ikonia, what is the package with the fix released?
[10:46] <ikonia> jcadduono: back it up - copy it of to a difference device, any way you want
[10:46] <ikonia> roger21: should be listed in the bug
[10:47] <ne0h> ikonia, i thought you wanted to help
[10:47] <jcadduono> ikonia, you aren't understanding me, i did back it up, but how will i rebuild the raid array in a way that i can transfer it back to a raid?
[10:47] <ikonia> ne0h: I've not said anything to help/not help.
[10:47] <roger21> do you see it?
[10:47] <ikonia> roger21: I've not looked
[10:47] <ne0h> ikonia, so why caution me
[10:47] <roger21> i don't see it
[10:47] <ne0h> please stay on your lane abeg
[10:47] <ikonia> ne0h: because you don't need to saw the same thing over and over
[10:48] <ikonia> jcadduono: is it software/fake/hardware raid ?
[10:48] <ne0h> ikonia, rest abeg ishi nma
[10:48] <ikonia> ne0h: please talkin english in this channel
[10:48] <jcadduono> ikonia: sw raid
[10:48] <ikonia> jcadduono: as in mdadm?
[10:48] <jcadduono> aye
[10:49] <ikonia> jcadduono: ok, so basically, destory the raid array, and re-make it with a working disk in place of the faulty one
[10:49] <roger21> can somebody know how to read a bug on lunchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls26/+bug/937537 ?
[10:49] <ikonia> roger21: what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:49] <roger21> 12.04
[10:50] <jcadduono> ikonia: no can do, no replacement disk, can i somehow generate a new raid array from remaining disks and dd the partitions from old raid to that?
[10:50] <ikonia> roger21: ok, so that fix should be in pangolin, it's not there according to you so you need tofeed back on it
[10:50] <ikonia> jcadduono: no
[10:50] <ne0h> ikonia, thats english dude
[10:50] <ikonia> jcadduono: you need to delete the array, and re-create it
[10:50] <roger21> k
[10:50] <ikonia> 11:48 < ne0h> ikonia, rest abeg ishi nma
[10:51] <ikonia> ne0h: that is not english
[10:51] <roger21> done already
[10:51] <ikonia> roger21: "feed back" on it sorry
[10:51] <ikonia> typo
[10:51] <ikonia> roger21: out of interest, what version of the package is current in 12.04
[10:52] <roger21> 2.12.14-5ubuntu3.4
[10:52] <ikonia> roger21: the fix is in 2.20 - whih has only just been released to raring
[10:52] <ikonia> roger21: look at comment 20 in the bug report
[10:52] <roger21> so it is not fixed
[10:53] <roger21> wil it be ?
[10:53] <Peyam> what is the problem?
[10:53] <ikonia> roger21: not in the 12.04 package, the fix released is for raring in the 2.20 package
[10:53] <ikonia> roger21: can't see it being fixed as it's not assigned to anyone so no-one is working on it
[10:53] <roger21> but they talk about precise, they won't fix it for the lts?????
[10:53] <ikonia> roger21: no-one is talking about precise
[10:53] <ne0h> ikonia, dont worry then do you have any ans to my question
[10:54] <ne0h> am trying to copy some files of about 1gb into my flash and it is saying 8hours
[10:54] <ikonia> roger21: they are saying the fix came in at 2.16,
[10:56] <roger21> ikonia, how do you read this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls26/+bug/1095052
[10:57] <roger21> is it fixed ? is it released ? is it for precise ?
[10:57] <Ubunutu> Hello can someone point me to the openwrt channel?
[10:57] <DJones> !alis | Ubunutu
[10:57] <Peyam> ikonia: what is the speed og your flash?
[10:57] <Peyam> f
[10:57] <ikonia> Peyam: what ?
[10:58] <ikonia> roger21: looks like a fix is in the backports repo
[10:58] <Peyam> ikonia: I saw your said it took 8 hours to move files to your flash
[10:58] <Peyam> what is the speed of your flash?
[10:58] <ikonia> roger21: which in my view is a disgracful approach
[10:58] <ikonia> Peyam: I don't have a problem, it's ne0h that does
[10:58] <Peyam> okej okej sorry
[10:58] <ikonia> roger21: reading the bug report it looks like a sloppy attempt to fix it
[10:59] <ponbiki> o u
[10:59] <roger21> i don't see it http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=precise-backports&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libgnutls26
[10:59] <ikonia> roger21: comment 14 says it's in proposed
[11:00] <ikonia> roger21: the 2.12.14-5ubuntu3.2 package
[11:00] <ikonia> ahhh wait, comment 15 says differnt
[11:00] <roger21> but i'm 2.12.14-5ubuntu3.4 anyway
[11:01] <ikonia> roger21: 5ubuntu3.3 is supposed to fix it
[11:01] <roger21> so is it fixed
[11:01] <ikonia> roger21: according to that bug yes,
[11:01] <roger21> k
[11:17] <zipy> can i use a local proxy from outside via ssh too or do i need vpn?
[11:17] <ikonia> you can proxy anything you want
[11:18] <zipy> i got squid3 to work now but i only allowed local network
[11:18] <ikonia> thats because you've setup the acl's lke that
[11:18] <ikonia> like
[11:18] <zipy> yes but i want to keep it like that
[11:18] <zipy> so i could use a vpn tunnel to use it
[11:18] <ikonia> then how do you expect to use it externally
[11:19] <zipy> vpn tunnel should work or not?
[11:19] <zipy> but im thinking of using ssh if its possible
[11:19] <ikonia> sorry, sounds a stupid soltion, and as I said to you yesterday you are not makingyourself anonymous and you are trying to hide something that dosn't need to be hid
[11:19] <ikonia> that's up to you
[11:21] <zipy> why, its working now and routed throuh tor too
[11:21] <ikonia> great, so problem solved
[11:21] <ikonia><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:21] <ikonia> doesn't look like it's working through tor
[11:21] <zipy> yes but i can only access from network
[11:22] <zipy> cuz i didnt connect irc through it ^^
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> zipy: I use an SSH tunnel to squid for web access from work :)
[11:22] <zipy> i just need it to access tor network or for some blocked services
[11:23] <zipy> ok i guess i dont need to install a vpn server then
[11:23] <zipy> thats what i wanted to know :D
[11:24] <zipy> the only difference is that i have to configure all applications seperatly to connect via ssh tunnel right?
[11:25] <zipy> while in vpn doesnt
[11:25] <zipy> -in
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> zipy: you can set an OS wide proxy to use localhost:someport as the proxy
[11:27] <zipy> ikonia, i guess freenode doesnt accept connections from tor :P
[11:27] <zipy> it says ip is banned, i tried :P
[11:28] <zipy> [13:26] == You are banned from this server- Your tor exit node must not allow connections to freenode (tor exit node (chat.freenode.net:443)).  Email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when corrected. (2013/6/28 06.26)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> zipy: ssh -L someport:server.lan.ip.here:3128<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-X
[11:28] <zipy> thx ill try
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> zipy: assuming you have squid running on 3128
[11:28] <DJones> zipy: You should check in #freenode about whether Tor can be used for the freenode network, somebody there should be able to point you in the right direction
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> zipy: then point apps to localhost:someport and it will go down the tunnel and hit squid then go out to the web from there
[11:29] <zipy> well i dont need it for irc anyways
[11:30] <JamJams> Hi I just upgraded my server to ubuntu 10.04.4 however my MySQL version is still 5.1.69 how do I get it to upgrade to 5.5.
[11:30] <Guest81169> -!- help
[11:30] <JamJams> The website states that after 10.04 it should go to 5.5
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> JamJams: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <zipy> ikonia, btw the squid.con from yesterday was good, i just had to downgrade my phyton from 2.7x to 2.6.6
[11:31] <zipy> it seemed to have some trouble
[11:31] <JamJams> ActionParsnip 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> JamJams: check the apt-cache search to check versions
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> JamJams: run:  sudo apt-get update ,first
[11:32] <DJones> JamJams: Looking at packages.ubuntu.com, it looks like 5.1.69 is the latest for 10.04
[11:32] <vnc786> i was trying to remove LO 3.5 so i did apt-get purge libre* but it uninstalled many others thing including apt-get full report here http://pastebin.com/CWHrw10y
[11:32] <vnc786> how do i recover it
[11:32] <JamJams> ActionParsnip I did
[11:32] <JamJams> "As of Ubuntu 12.04, MySQL 5.5 is installed by default. Whilst this is 100% compatible with MySQL 5.1 should you need to install 5.1 (for example to be a slave to other MySQL 5.1 servers) you can install the mysql-server-5.1 package instead."
[11:33] <JamJams> Source: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/mysql.html
[11:33] <DJones> JamJams: You said you're using 10.04, that comment is for Ubuntu 12.04
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: in future, use less ambiguos globs.
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: sudo apt-get --purge remove libreoffice*    is more exact
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:34] <JamJams> DJones - I'm blind... Darn it...
[11:34] <DJones> JamJams: Easily done
[11:35] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: but i am not getting apt-get(command not found) and Ubuntu Software Center
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: download the deb for apt-get and install it using dpkg (you may need to satisfy deps) then you can use apt-get
[11:37] <dtonal> Hi, does an Ubuntu live-system on usb any changes on the installed os at the used computer? the it-people of my university dont allow me to use the ubuntu-live system on the public computers, because it would change stuff on the original os...
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> dtonal: it can if you want, by default it does not touch it
[11:38] <zipy> except of the bootloader :D
[11:38] <zipy> ah no
[11:38] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: also i have uninstalled unity completely and i am using lxde (apt-get install lxde) so does ubuntu-desktop will bring unity ..
[11:38] <zipy> live system doesnt at all
[11:38] <DJones> dtonal: Unless you instruct it to, no it shouldn't make any changes to an installed os
[11:39] <zipy> lxde doesnt work with unity but u can still choose between ubuntu desktop and lxde at login
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: you could reinstall he lxde package and it will install what is needed that is missing
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> zipy: sure it does
[11:40] <zipy> lxde + unity?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> zipy: unity is nothing but a shell, so you can run lxde as the DE and use unity as a shell on top
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> zipy: whever would it not work?
[11:40] <dtonal> ok, thanks for your answers. think i have to discuss with the it-stuff of the university :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> zipy: you can even use Compiz on its own as a standalone WM and run Unity. No desktop like those who use fluxbox / openbox on its own (like me)
[11:41] <rypervenche> dtonal: They'll probably still have a problem with it, but I would just use it anyways. There may be an issue with the networking though.
[11:41] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: have you ever actually done that ?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: done which?
[11:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: compiz on it's own as the window manager
[11:42] <zipy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2095021
[11:42] <zipy> u have to replace openbox
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: sure http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2827
[11:43] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you've tried it ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: yeah was ok, prefer openbox
[11:44] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: interesting, I've never seen that run on it's own.
[11:44] <zipy> hmm well i wont try that on my eee ^^
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> zipy: yes but openbox is not lxde
[11:44] <zipy> k
[11:44] <zipy> thought so cuz its in lubuntu
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> zipy: you can install any WM in lubuntu you want....
[11:45] <zipy> ye but i dont think it makes sense on my slow eee
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> zipy: i dont think you quite grasp how flexible your OS is
[11:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> Zipy, your linux desktop enviroment can be changed
[11:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> I learned about the linux desktop enviroment from linux.about.com
[11:52] <zipy> is it possible to use 2 destkop environments who both use different default aplications like nautilus openbox etc?
[11:52] <zipy> that would be interesting
[11:53] <zipy> for example when i use lxde default window manager should use openbox and when i choose unity nautilus..
[11:53] <zipy> atm i got dualboot ubuntu and lubuntu
[11:54] <auronandace> zipy: nautilus is a file manager
[11:54] <auronandace> zipy: unity uses compiz as window manager
[11:54] <zipy> oh i just translated it word by word
[11:54] <zipy> i mean file manager
[11:55] <auronandace> zipy: lxde uses pcmanfm as file manager
[11:55] <usr13> zipy: openbox is a stand alone Window Manager
[11:55] <usr13> zipy: lxde is a Desktop Environment
[11:56] <zipy> yes
[11:56] <zipy> if i install two enviroments, i want different applications to use at default
[11:56] <usr13> Unity is a Desktop Environment (Desktop Environments require a Window Manager to stand on).
[11:56] <zipy> is that possible?
[11:56] <dn5> is it possible to transfer most of the tools form kali linux on ubuntu?
[11:56] <usr13> zipy: But yes, you can install as many as you like.
[11:57] <usr13> dn5: What tools?
[11:57] <dn5> used fot pentesting
[11:57] <auronandace> usr13: unity is a shell for the gnome 3 desktop environment
[11:57] <usr13> dn5: Can you name any of them?
[11:57] <dn5> there are a lot of them :>
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> usr13: unity is a shell, gnome is the desktop environment
[11:57] <dn5> can't name that much
[11:57] <rypervenche> dn5: Packages? Scripts?
[11:57] <DJones> dn5: If the tools are in the repo's then yes, but bear in mind that kali is based on Debian and not Ubuntu so there's a chance that some won't be in the Ubuntu repo's
[11:57] <zipy> hmm
[11:57] <dn5> mostly scripts; perl, python, ruby
[11:58] <zipy> well i will just try it out
[11:58] <usr13> zipy: Ok, I stand corrected, gnome is the desktop environment, unity is a shell of it.
[11:58] <zipy> on vm tho :P
[11:58] <Captain_Proton> can someone give me there /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ? I move from kde to unity and mine is still tring to login to kde-desktop
[11:58] <rypervenche> dn5: You shouldn't have any problem then.
[11:58] <zipy> hehe
[11:58] <dn5> DJones, I will probably add repositorys that kali use
[11:58] <dn5> but do I have to update kernel
[11:58] <dn5> because I'm not familiar with that
[11:58] <usr13> zipy: So you have unity on top of gnome on top of compiz
[11:59] <DJones> dn5: Thats not something that would be supported in the Ubuntu channels, you're probably best asking in the kali support channel about that, mixing repo's could well cause breakages
[11:59] <dn5> thats what I'm actually afraid of
[11:59] <usr13> zipy: You have unity on top of gnome on top of compiz on top of X.  Openbox is just on top of X
[12:00] <iShootUDie175> dn5 if you dud that then i imagine you might run into troubles
[12:00] <iShootUDie175> such ask kernel updates
[12:00] <iShootUDie175> might overide your ubuntu setup
[12:00] <zipy> unity on top of gnome on top of compiz on top of X
[12:00] <zipy> thats pretty stupid ^^
[12:00] <dn5> Yep, I guess that is right iShoot
[12:01] <iShootUDie175> iv lookt into that idea
[12:01] <usr13> zipy: That is a matter of opinion
[12:01] <zipy> i like unity tho
[12:01] <zipy> but for my netbook it sux
[12:01] <dn5> hm. Perl is automatically installed on Ubuntu, right?
[12:01] <usr13> Unity is nice, but I use xfce
[12:02] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: i would like to request you can you provide me command to remove ":amd64 (3.4.1-0ubuntu2.1)"  from  gnomine:amd64 (3.4.1-0ubuntu2.1)
[12:02] <zipy> i used xfce too but not lxde
[12:02] <zipy> .not +now
[12:02] <zipy> -not +now
[12:02] <dn5> I can't execute sudo apt-get install perl
[12:03] <usr13> dn5: Perl is a default app yes.
[12:03] <usr13> dn5: What is it you are trying to do.
[12:03] <usr13> >?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: so cut after the colon?
[12:04] <dn5> I'm trying to download pentesting tools one by one; the one I use the most
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: the guys in #bash will know a trick or two
[12:05] <rypervenche> Good luck there.
[12:05] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CWHrw10y  i am trying to remove lot  of from this i remember something sed{a-b}
[12:06] <vnc786> okay trying bash
[12:06] <zipy> dn5 why dont u use backtrack
[12:07] <dn5> I did use it for some time, not backtrack but kali thus they are almost same but these distros are not used for long-use but LiveCD runtime
[12:08] <zipy> but u want to move from kali to ubuntu and install all the pen tests?
[12:08] <zipy> backtrack is on ubuntu + gnome or kde already
[12:08] <usr13> dn5: If you use command  sudo apt-get install perl*   you will probably see that perl is already installed.
[12:08] <zipy> doesnt perl --version work?
[12:09] <zipy> k it works
[12:09] <zipy> :P
[12:10] <dn5> zipy: I already switched to Ubuntu yesterday. Now I want to transfer some tools (not all) on Ubuntu that I usually use for pentesting and reverse engineering. Backtrack is a bit older then kali linux and they are produced by same company - offensive security. usr13; yep I just checked.
[12:10] <Greylocks> which perl will work also as well as just trying to run perl
[12:11] <usr13> dn5: Actually, a better way is:   ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/perl*list
[12:11] <Kartagis> ikonia: are you there?
[12:11] <dn5> yep.. I have perl-base list, perl-modules.list and perl.list
[12:11] <dn5> Seems Perl is installed.
[12:12] <usr13> dn5: Install them by name,  (they will be in Ubuntu's standard repositories, and some you prolly already have).
[12:12] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes ?
[12:12] <Captain_Proton> can someone give me there /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ? I move from kde to unity and mine is still tring to login to kde-desktop
[12:12] <dn5> I don't think so. Maybe a few of them would be in ubuntus default repositorys, like nmap.. but other one, wpscan etc etc aren't there. usr13.
[12:12] <Kartagis> ikonia: remember I had a smb problem?
[12:13] <Kartagis> dreadful, dreadful one
[12:13] <dn5> I'm afraid just because of kernel (2.6.32-48-generic)
[12:13] <dn5> I don't know will it support these tools that I need
[12:13] <usr13> dn5: You can browse /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to see what you have installed.  i.e.  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list | less   #That way, you can do key-word-search
[12:14] <usr13> dn5: What kernel do you have now?
[12:14] <dn5> yes, I do know that. I'm not that unfamiliar with dpkg :>
[12:14] <shimato507> hello everyone
[12:14] <usr13> dn5: uname -r
[12:14] <shimato507> good day
[12:14] <dn5> @usr13 2.6.32
[12:14] <dn5> ain't it uname -a? :P
[12:14] <shimato507> does anyone know how to solve the youtube problem in XUBUNTU??
[12:15] <usr13> dn5: lsb_release -r   #Show us.
[12:15] <dn5> @shimato507, which one?
[12:15] <auronandace> dn5: are you running 10.04?
[12:15] <dn5> one second
[12:15] <usr13> auronandace: Must be....
[12:15] <BluesKaj> dn5, just the nick, @ isn't required on irc
[12:15] <dn5> auronandace yes I do
[12:16]  * mamtina has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) :3
[12:16] <auronandace> dn5: 10.04 is only supported on server now
[12:16] <shimato507> when open youtube in xubuntu with mozilla or chrome the videos are distortion with sound, i already verify that the video card driver are ok since i can play dvd
[12:16] <Kartagis> BluesKaj: plus, some IRC clients don't capture that and highlight
[12:16] <dn5> I know, I had to upgrade to higher version but I don't like new (KDE) look. I'm familiar with Gnome and I also don't like installing new environemnts
[12:16] <zipy> shimato507, did u install other videoplayers ?
[12:16] <Kartagis> dn5: you too
[12:16] <usr13> dn5: You should upgrade to 12.04  if it is a desktop, 12.04 is the current LTS for Desktop.
[12:17] <usr13> dn5: How about xfce?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> dn5  we can not help, if you run 10.04 on the desktop
[12:17] <dn5> shimato507, have you tried updating flash player or do a full reinstall of it
[12:17] <Kartagis> shimato507: try joining the html5 trial
[12:17] <shimato507> i have minitube and all is ok there, but with youtube directly has the mentioned problem
[12:17] <Kartagis> shimato507: www.youtube.com/html5
[12:17] <zipy> i had that same problem with flash too in lubuntu
[12:17] <usr13> dn5: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/precise_01.png&imgrefurl=http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/&h=768&w=1024&sz=329&tbnid=3DkZZM159dj8_M:&tbnh=92&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=__K7BY9jXcrEAjCExcgV14AWvQCvE=&docid=BvU54jmDLaUqMM&sa=X&ei=2X7NUcTFA-LfyAH1mYHoDA&ved=0CD0Q9QEwAg&dur=861
[12:18] <dn5> usr13, xfce-no thank you. fluxbox was somehow ok when I was younger. Now only gnome. For how long will be 12.04 updated, to which year?
[12:18] <usr13> dn5: You can use gnome.
[12:18] <auronandace> dn5: supported until 2017
[12:18] <shimato507> since i am kind of newby (*sorry) havent try to reinstall flash player
[12:19] <shimato507> thank you for pointing me on the right direction, i will search on how to do this and try this solution,
[12:19] <ddssc> how in the actual name of FUCK do i change my goddamn .sh file access rights so I can actually run it? ...
[12:19] <usr13> !nounity | dn5
[12:19] <saiarcot895> !launguage | ddssc
[12:20] <ddssc> sudo chmod g+rwx <foo> doesn't do the trick..
[12:20] <dn5> thank you usr13
[12:20] <shimato507> WOW , this community is amazing
[12:20] <dn5> Will I have to do a full reinstallation or I can just upgrade
[12:20] <usr13> dn5: If you are set to lts you can just upgrade.
[12:20] <dn5> and which kernel is 12.04
[12:20] <saiarcot895> ddssc: can you right-click on the file and go to Properties?
[12:20] <zipy> shimato507, does it work now?
[12:20] <saiarcot895> ddssc: then, go to the permissions tab
[12:20] <dn5> yes, currently 10.04 lts
[12:21] <auronandace> !info linux-image precise | dn5
[12:21] <ddssc> saiarcot895: it reverts back when I click "allow to run as program" checkbox...
[12:21] <saiarcot895> ddssc: are you on an ext4 partition or NTFS partition
[12:21] <shimato507> let me try, i'll let you know in a second
[12:22] <ddssc> saiarcot895: aaah yes, that's it is it... damn hw I forgot that... thanks
[12:22] <usr13> dn5: cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   #See if it says  Prompt=lts
[12:22] <usr13> If so, you are good to go.
[12:22] <ddssc> saiarcot895: you know of a way I can make ntfs drives behave like linux drives ?
[12:22] <usr13> dn5: Just use the updage-manager
[12:22] <dn5> yes, as I said it's lts;
[12:23] <dn5> # ....
[12:23] <dn5> Prompt=lts
[12:23] <saiarcot895> ddssc: I believe you have to specially mount the partition
[12:23]  * saiarcot895 goes to google
[12:23] <ddssc> saiarcot895: isn't it already mounted since I'm accessing it?
[12:23] <saiarcot895> ddssc: it is
[12:23] <dn5> usr13 could I choose which version to upgrade to
[12:24] <dn5> Or it's automatically to latest version
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> dn5  but your lts is no longer supported
[12:24] <dn5> I know thats why I want to upgrade
[12:24] <saiarcot895> ddssc: you will have to unmount it and mount it through Terminal
[12:24] <ddssc> saiarcot895: any docu on that?
[12:24] <usr13> dn5: When it is set to lts it will automatically upgrade to 12.04
[12:24] <dn5> hmm let me try
[12:25] <dn5> I won't loose any stuff as it's only an upgrade and not a reinstallation, right?
[12:25] <usr13> dn5: but you should be fully updated first.
[12:25] <zipy> stop clicking all the time, ur file is in drive c in documents folder... secret service
[12:25] <laurel> has anyone been to tld6.com
[12:25] <DJones> saiarcot895: HOw do you mean "make ntfs drives behave like linux drives"? Do you mean file permissions etc?
[12:25] <laurel> does anyone know a free hosting website
[12:25] <dn5> usr13 what do you mean?
[12:25] <usr13> dn5: Get 10.04 fully updated first, and then do the Distribution Upgrade to 12.04
[12:25] <dn5> aha
[12:25] <saiarcot895> DJones: yes, primarily in terms of the file execute permission
[12:26] <dn5> I will do so.
[12:26] <saiarcot895> DJones: ddssc: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12724960/cant-change-allow-executing-file-as-program-in-ntfs#comment17186835_12725086
[12:26] <shimato507> It still the same problem even after apply and use the html5 trial
[12:26] <DJones> saiarcot895: NTFS doesn't support execute permissions
[12:26] <usr13> dn5: Do all updates first.  From command line you can do  sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:26] <shimato507> can i use terminal to reinstal or fix flash?
[12:26] <saiarcot895> DJones: ddssc: that comment seems to describe how to launch it with full execute permissions
[12:26] <DJones> saiarcot895: Maybe have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/5069/cant-set-permissions-for-files-on-an-ntfs-partition
[12:27] <dn5> usr13 - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgrade
[12:27] <dn5> I think my current 10.04 lts is up to date
[12:27] <zipy> shimato507, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:28] <ikonia> Kartagis: not off the top of my head, now
[12:28] <rypervenche> ubottu: 10.04 | dn5
[12:28] <dn5> rypervenche I know. I'm updating my system right now to 12.04
[12:29] <Kartagis> ikonia: I got permission denied when I tried to write. anyway, just want to fill you in. it seems cifs-utils has a bug
[12:29] <shimato507> it said:  "flashplugin-installer is already the newest version"
[12:29] <auronandace> dn5: it would likely be more straightforward to simply fresh install 12.04
[12:29] <dn5> shimato507 remove the old version.
[12:29] <dn5> Nah ..
[12:29] <shimato507> i have try this: sudo apt-get reinstall flashplugin-nonfree<-- is it posible?
[12:30] <dn5> no
[12:30] <dn5> use
[12:30] <dn5> sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[12:30] <zipy>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:30] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:31] <dn5> usr13, I'm upgrading my distro to 12.04 lts, do I have to close all apps?
[12:32] <shimato507> Note, selecting 'flashplugin-installer' instead of 'flashplugin-nonfree'
[12:32] <shimato507> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[12:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: apologies, I don't remember
[12:33] <usr13> dn5: Not really, but I wound't do anything that uses a lot of resources.
[12:33] <dn5> shimato507 I would advice you to use synaptic incase you are not familiar with command line or you are new to linux.
[12:33] <DJones> dn5: You shouldn't need to close apps, the upgrade should carry on in the background, although things will likely slow down & eventually, something may stop working
[12:33] <zipy> u had 2 flash players installed?
[12:33] <dn5> Thank you both; usr13 DJones
[12:34] <Captain_Proton> Please can someone throw there /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf up and pastebin
[12:35] <dn5> I hope so that this upgrade will repair my connection problem that I have to setup everytime I run my notebook
[12:35] <Kartagis> ikonia: no sweat
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Captain_Proton  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5807652/
[12:35] <shimato507> i am really new on linux, i'll try the synaptic option, thank you and apologize
[12:36] <jdu> Is it possible to create a deb package for Ubuntu 12.04 while on 13.04? Or do I have to do create the package on 12.04. I'm building a QT5 application and I need to port it to 12.04 when I developed it on 13.04, is this possible? Any help appreciated.
[12:36] <dn5> shomato507 You will get familiar with it in a mather of minutes.
[12:37] <dn5> jdu while I was on Windows I had to use remote machiens and set them up so I can compile on them. Not sure about linux thus I don't think that it matters.
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> jdu  in a chroot maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[12:38] <Captain_Proton> MonkeyDust: Thanks! is there any more? I resaon I ask is that what I have in my lightdm.conf but when I try to log in it trys to start the desktop but kicks me back out the logon screen
[12:38] <krq> Hi
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> Captain_Proton  i had that too, it turned my HDD was 100% full after a failed file recovery
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> turned out*
[12:39] <berryciderspider> guys i know im on the ubuntu channel, but what do you think about centos for the server? I love ubuntu for desktop, but heard cent is pretty good for a server. what do you think?
[12:39] <auronandace> berryciderspider: ask in ##linux
[12:39] <krq> Sorry, a silly question but isnt it possible to add a desktop shortcut in ubuntu 12.04.
[12:39] <dylan__> Hello. Appearently my global language is set to German. Whee can I change this? :P
[12:39] <DJones> berryciderspider: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[12:40] <dn5> usr13 Can you help me out with this. Window poped up "Debconf on localhost", I have to configure libc6..
[12:40] <dn5> is the "rsync cups cron atd" right command?
[12:40] <krq> Somebody help..
[12:40] <dn5> for restarting GNU libc library
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> dylan__  system settings, language support
[12:41] <jdu> Actually chroot looks like it might be the best way to go, I am trying to build it inside of a  vagrant of ubuntu 12.04 but the main problem is that there don't seem to be any qt5 packages in launchpad that I can install so I have to build QT5 from scratch on the vagrant box.
[12:41] <dn5> krq what environemnet?
[12:41] <krq> gonme
[12:41] <krq> gnome
[12:41] <dn5> can't you right clicl -> Create Launcher
[12:41] <dn5> ?
[12:42] <krq> no. i cant find it in this version.
[12:43] <dn5> krq what is your ubuntu version? 12.04?
[12:43] <krq> ya
[12:43] <dylan__> MonkeyDust: the problem is that there is no German in there. It's only English
[12:44] <krq> I ran lsb_version -a and it gave
[12:44] <krq> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Release:	12.04 Codename:	precise
[12:44] <dn5> krq http://www.vogella.com/articles/Ubuntu/article.html#unity_newentries
[12:45] <dn5> krq I had to add desktop launchers over desktop entries on kali linux; also gnome env
[12:46] <krq> dn5: Not the launcher. I want shortcuts on desktop.
[12:48] <dn5> krq tell me the actual difference. anyway, try running the launcher creator from terminal: gnome-desktop-item-edit Desktop --create-new
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> dylan__  maybe you have to install language packs
[12:49] <Fanshawe> Hi again everyone. I was hoping for help with getting an application to run. It's called 'Labyrinth Mind-mapping' and was working yesterday, but now when I try to run it I get an error message in the terminal, something to do with Python but I'm not sure. Can anyone help me?
[12:50] <dn5> Fanshawe what error do you get?
[12:50] <Fanshawe> The line that seems to kill the application starting reads "xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: unclosed token: line 1, column 4068"
[12:51] <dylan__> Fanshawe: full error?
[12:52] <Fanshawe> This is the entire output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FCpJJycH
[12:52] <dn5> I think it's up to try and except in python.. I'm not familiar with it, you should wait others reply
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Fanshawe  run the application in terminal and add    |pastebinit       at the end of it, then paste the ur here
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> url*
[12:53] <vnc786> "apt-get command not found" i am searching for APT .deb in packages website but i am not able to get can some one help
[12:54] <cornell> Good morning.  Can anyone tell me how to determine which packages I've added, versus those that were part of the initial install?
[12:54] <dn5> vnc786, can you clearify?
[12:54] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: just out of curiosity, the last time you ran it, did the program freeze up, or did you forcibly end the process?
[12:55] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: As I remember it, the application closed without problem. It's very confusing.
[12:55] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: from what I can tell, it's reading an XML file, but it's not properly formed
[12:55] <vnc786> dn5:  by mistake i have removed APT package  due to that i am not able to install any thing
[12:56] <vnc786> so i am looking for deb package so i can install it with dpkg  package name
[12:57] <Pici> vnc786: What exactly are you trying to do?
[12:57] <Pici> or trying to accomplish?
[12:57] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: Thanks. Does this mean there's a broader problem with Python, or is there something specific to the application?
[12:57] <dn5> vnc786 - http://mirror1.atrpms.net/ccrma/software/installapt.html
[12:57] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: specific to the application
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> cornell  in the installer on your usb stick, find "casper/filesystem.manifest" and compare it with the packages installed on your system
[12:58] <dn5> and why in the world would you do that :D
[12:58] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: if you don't mind, open up your Home folder, press Ctrl+H (to show hidden files), and look for a folder called .labyrinth (or something that seems to be relevant to the program)
[12:59] <vnc786> Pici:  on command line i am not getting apt-get which gives me command not found i am on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and by ubuntu software center is also not available
[12:59] <dn5> Fanshawe, saiarcot895 could he just delete config and sotware will recreate one on startup
[13:00] <dn5> vnc786 check the link I've posted
[13:00] <saiarcot895> dn5: that's what I'm thinking
[13:00] <Pici> dn5: Why would you provide instruction on how to install apt on redhat?
[13:00] <cornell> MonkeyDust: By "usb stick", I presume you mean the source of the installation, such as a usb stick or CD.  Is that correct?
[13:00] <dn5> DId I?
[13:00] <dn5> Pici, one second please.
[13:00] <saiarcot895> dn5: unfortunately, I don't know what folder it stores its config in
[13:01] <vnc786> dn5: it gives rpm
[13:01] <dn5> vnc786 sorry wrong link
[13:01] <dn5> siarcot895, what is the name of the software he have a problem with?
[13:01] <saiarcot895> dn5: labyrinth
[13:01] <Pici> vnc786: Download the proper architecture from http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/apt
[13:01] <saiarcot895> dn5: available in the repos
[13:01] <MuFaSaa> #amarok
[13:01] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: I'm afraid I can't find any config files for Labyrinth. I've been to usr/lib/python/dist-packages/labyrinth, but I'm not sure if that's what we're looking for
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> cornell  yes
[13:02] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: the config file will be within your home directory, not in /usr or /var
[13:02] <cornell> Cool!  Thanks MonkeyDust
[13:02] <Pici> vnc786: link @ http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.10_amd64.deb
[13:03] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: home/.gconf/apps/labyrinth ! Think I have it!
[13:04] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: try deleting the labyrinth folder and reopening labyrinth
[13:04] <dn5> GOod job Fanshawe
[13:04] <dn5> saiarcot895 I know you would advice him that method :>
[13:05] <cornell> MonkeyDust: I've found it...  looks like a list of packages, in the form: name <space> version.  If a package has been upgraded, and it's version has changed, its name would still be the same.  So comparing on the name is exactly what I want, correct?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> cornell  wild idea: create a list of installed packages and compare the two lists, look for differences, in your list of installed packes, there should be more than in the manifest files
[13:08] <vnc786> Pici:  thanks brother i was searching for last couple of hour how did you got that link ?
[13:08] <Pici> vnc786: via packages.ubuntu.com
[13:08] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895, dn5: I've got rid of the folder, but the terminal returns the same error without recreating the folder/XML file. Something odd's happened. Should I try storing the files in usr/lib/python/xml somewhere else and trying again?
[13:10] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: from the error, it seems it's trying to load the previously created mind maps, which isn't in the .gconf folder
[13:11] <cornell> Right, MonkeyDust.  But if an original package, such as "apt <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5" has been upgraded to, say, "apt <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5", it won't match the manifest.  But if I just take the part before the space, "apt", it would match.
[13:11] <Fanshawe> Thank you, I'll root around and see if I can find where it stored old maps.
[13:12] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: dn5: it's storing the mind maps in xdg's BaseDirectory. As to where that is, I have no idea
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> cornell  true, but maybe now you have an idea you can be creative with, it's the closest i get to an answer
[13:16] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: try .local/share/labyrinth
[13:17] <cornell> Yes, MonkeyDust, a great start!  Thanks much.   I'm going to load the manifest into a mysql table, with name, orig version, current version, os, initial (Y).  Then dpkg -l  to a file, and load same, initial (N).  Then I can query my butt off ;-)
[13:17] <cornell> Thanks again.
[13:17] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: <home folder>/.local/share/labyrinth
[13:21] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: There's a /.local/share/applications, and inside there is a desktop configuration file. There's also a bunch of related looking files in /.local/share/Trash/info.
[13:21] <Fanshawe> Shall I remove and run again?
[13:22] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: Remove /.local/share/labyrinth and run
[13:24] <osirisx11> is it possible to have my cpu frequency set on powersave when i uplug my laptop?
[13:24] <markshwe231> hi
[13:25] <markshwe231> i am using empathy  why doesnt it show username list
[13:25] <alexxxa_> osirisx11, I think it's possible.  please don't ask me how.
[13:26] <whoever> markshwe231:  for what, email contact , IM
[13:26] <markshwe231> irc whoever
[13:26] <phil> ost
[13:26] <markshwe231> i cant see any user , i went to a room , no idea if there was anybody in that room
[13:26] <markshwe231> not even /names
[13:26] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: Sorry, there is no .local/share/labyrinth folder. I could search my File System for folders called labyrinth and come back with the results
[13:27] <whoever> markshwe231: empathy is not an irc client , what are you talking about ?
[13:27] <Pici> whoever: it does have an irc component, its not very good.
[13:27] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: do you have a .local folder in your Home folder?
[13:27] <whoever> Pici: ah thx
[13:27] <markshwe231> whoever: i am on empathy right now .
[13:28] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: Yes, home/.local/
[13:28] <whoever> markshwe231: i sugesst you try a standalone irc client , ie: chatx, irssi
[13:28] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: go into the share folder; do you see a labyrinth folder?
[13:29] <Pici> markshwe231: empathy itself has poor IRC support. I'm not sure we are going to be able to help you with it.
[13:29] <whoever> markshwe231: it's a plug in that may or may not work 100% once again I suggest you try a standallone irc client
[13:30] <markshwe231> ok Pici, i have one more issue and that's with pidgin. it refuses to launch , though i can see it in left 'strip' what do you call it ? dashboard?
[13:30] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: No labyrinth folders in there.
[13:30] <Fanshawe> No folder named labyrinth, rather.
[13:30] <whoever> Pici: i don't think empathy has  a channel
[13:31] <Pici> whoever: if they do, its likely on gimpnet.
[13:32] <whoever> Pici: oh, and makeing your entire user experience on plugins just seems to be a bad idea
[13:33] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: what about home/.gnome2/labyrinth?
[13:33] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: Yes! Those are .map files, I assume one of those is corrupt. I'll clear those out and run again.
[13:35] <sgtkilljoy> clear
[13:35] <Fanshawe> saiarcot895: That did the trick. The program now loads without problem. One of the maps I made must have prevented the program from starting up. Thank you!
[13:35] <saiarcot895> Fanshawe: you're welcome
[13:35] <dn5> What was the solution?
[13:35] <dn5> Deleting config files?
[13:38] <saiarcot895> dn5: yes, they were in the .gnome2 folder
[13:38] <saiarcot895> dn5: well, in this case, the maps themselves
[13:39] <DeLorean731> For troubleshooting network issues on an Ubuntu box that appear to be at the OS level, should I come here or #networking
[13:39] <DeLorean731> ?
[13:39] <Vec_> Good day everyone!
[13:41] <Vec_> I recently set up an ubuntu server for filesharing and printersharing for a small home network. I did this simply by reading guides and asking for help. I'm interested in learning the very basics/essentials of how to deal with a ubuntu/linux system, what sites/guides would you guys reccomend for learning the linux essentials for a total linux-newbie?
[13:45] <alexxxa_> Hello and welcome. I would recommend you Ubuntu wiki.
[13:46] <Vec_> Ok, i'll check it out :)
[13:46] <alexxxa_> beside wiki, there are many great articles and how to s on net
[13:47] <Vec_> Yeah, ive made extensive use of them. I simply lack the knowledge of even the most basic terminal commands
[13:47] <alexxxa_> anything you'd like to find out, just type in Google,  or ask your question here
[13:47] <Vec_> So you know, i feel sort of lost if i want to perform some basic tasks on my own that are outside the how tos
[13:48] <Vec_> What i really like so far is the simple way of just apt-getting packages and cding to /etc/packagename for configuring
[13:48] <alexxxa_> there are some articles about basic commands too
[13:48] <ezra-s> Vec_, knowledge comes with practice too, you will be there before you notice..
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !cli
[13:49] <alexxxa_> just type basic commands in Linux Ubuntu
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Vec_, see the post above
[13:49] <Vec_> Nice, the "usingtheterminal" link was exactly up my ally
[13:54] <Vec_> Random question: When i logon my ubuntu server through terminal, am i currently in that users /home dir then?
[13:54] <ikonia> yes
[13:54] <blazemore> Vec_: By default yes. You can test this by typing "pwd" which will show you the current directory
[13:54] <Medjai> does anyone know any good Geoip websites that will give me City and State or City and Province for countries outside the US?
[13:54] <ikonia> Medjai: not really an ubuntu issue.
[13:55] <sgtkilljoy> Vec_, yes
[13:55] <Medjai> i GUESS NOT
[13:55] <Medjai> just asking in general
[13:55] <Medjai> is there a gneral chat?
[13:55] <blazemore> !offtopic | Medjai
[13:55] <ikonia> Medjai: this isn't a general chat channel, try #defocus for random chat
[13:57] <alexxxa_> is pwd a shortening for present working directory?
[13:57] <ikonia> correct
[13:57] <alexxxa_> cd current directory
[13:57] <ezra-s> it shows the current dir yes
[13:57] <blazemore> alexxxa_: cd is change directory
[13:57] <ikonia> alexxxa_: change directory
[13:57] <alexxxa_> haha
[13:57] <blazemore> alexxxa_: by default, cd takes you to ~
[13:57] <ikonia> alexxxa_: maybe a read on tldp would help
[13:58] <alexxxa_> cd without path leads by default nowhere
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Medjai, try infosniper.com
[13:58] <chaospsychex> how would one create a dialup connection in Ubuntu ?
[13:59] <Vec_> blazemore: Where is ~?
[13:59] <blazemore> Vec_: /home/<username>
[13:59] <Vec_> hm ok
[13:59] <ezra-s> chaospsychex, mostly using networkmanager
[14:00] <blazemore> Vec_: It's just a shortcut.  I need some help with this. Is there a channel for data recovery, or can someone help me out in here?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> hunt: try foremost on the raw device
[14:12] <dn5_> back.
[14:12] <dn5_> Now I'll have to learn this new interface
[14:13] <blazemore> "sudo: dpkg: command not found" - am I going crazy?
[14:13] <ikonia> blazemore: why are you trying to use dpkg directly
[14:13] <blazemore> because I'm trying to install a deb...
[14:13] <blazemore> I know what I'm doing
[14:13] <ikonia> blazemore: clearly not
[14:13] <blazemore> No, seriously, this is a brand new fresh install
[14:13] <hunt> ActionParsnip: so, should I run testdisk directly with the sd card? The ddrescue dump is at about 3GB from a total of 4GB, are you saying I should try to recover the partition table on the device and then run ddrescue again?
[14:14] <ikonia> blazemore: seriously....shouldn't be using dpkg directly
[14:14] <blazemore> Ohhhhh I know why! I wasn't ssh'd into my Ubuntu server, I was on my OpenSuse workstation
[14:15] <blazemore> Nobody mention this again pls
[14:15] <nullby7e> ikonia is a idiot
[14:15] <blazemore> That's a bit harsh; most people shouldn't use dpkg directly
[14:16] <blazemore> Unless there's a specific reason like you need to --force-architecture
[14:16] <arvindeep_> blazemore: lol it happens a lot to me too... can you set up ssh to change the terminal background or something?
[14:16] <fossterer> christina: ?
[14:17] <Kitty_> hello I am Christina and I have a problem while installing git. Can someone help
[14:17] <blazemore> Kitty_: What error message, if any, are you getting?
[14:17] <fossterer> Kitty_: your version?
[14:18] <Kitty_> Reading package lists... Done
[14:18] <Kitty_> Building dependency tree
[14:18] <Kitty_> Reading state information... Done
[14:18] <Kitty_> Package git is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:18] <Kitty_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[14:18] <Kitty_> is only available from another source
[14:18] <FloodBot1> Kitty_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <blazemore> Kitty_: Did you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[14:18] <Kitty_> no i did sudo apt-get install git
[14:19] <blazemore> Kitty_: Try running "sudo apt-get update" first to refresh the list of available packages
[14:19] <blazemore> Kitty_: If there are any problems with the repositories, that command will also hilight those issues
[14:19] <Kitty_> blazemore,ok
[14:19] <blazemore> *highlight
[14:21] <Kitty_> blazemore, do i have to install updates ?
[14:21] <blazemore> Kitty_: No
[14:21] <blazemore> Kitty_: Try running "sudo apt-get install git" again now you have done apt-get update
[14:22] <Kitty_> blazemore, ok
[14:22] <axiz> installed 12.04. wireless netowrk not showing anything
[14:22] <Kitty_> blazemore, it gives the same error
[14:22] <blazemore> axiz: What wireless device do you have?
[14:23] <blazemore> Kitty_: Can you open the file "/etc/apt/sources.list" and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu.com then share the link here?
[14:23] <axiz> how to get that im new
[14:23] <Kitty_> blazemore, any link from where i can download image of ubuntu
[14:23] <blazemore> Kitty_: http://ubuntu.com
[14:23] <ikonia> Kitty_: if you get a moment can you please type "uname -a" and how the channel the output please
[14:24] <blazemore> Kitty_: do what ikonia said first
[14:25] <Kitty_> ikonia,Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 28 06:07:29 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:25] <ikonia> ok, looks good
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> lucid
[14:25] <ikonia> repos are gone
[14:25] <ikonia> probably why it's failing
[14:26] <Kitty_> Well i am very sorry if i am irritating I am new to linux
[14:26] <blazemore> That's an old and unsupported version of Ubuntu, Kitty_ - Ubuntu doesn't provide packages for it any more (including git)
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Kitty_: you can upgrade directly to Precise
[14:26] <ikonia> Kitty_: not irritating, no-one said that
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Kitty_: as it is LTS to LTS
[14:26] <summit> hello, im trying to setup the VPN settings with ubuntu, which would be ideal for gaming? i play on a private server and would rather not use my real IP incase of shady GM's etc..
[14:26] <blazemore> Kitty_: You should download the latest version of Ubuntu here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:27] <ikonia> summit: ideal for gaming ???
[14:27] <blazemore> summit: What VPN provider are you using?
[14:27] <zephyr> Is there any way to "trick" linux into believing my 3rd-party XBOX 360 controller is a genuine Microsoft one?  I can't seem to get it to work at all.
[14:27] <summit> would PPTP be the option i would want to use?
[14:27] <summit> blazemore: none atm, just settin up.
[14:27] <ikonia> summit: depends on many things
[14:27] <Kitty_> blazemore, I need a image for the vmware. Will that link still work
[14:27] <blazemore> summit: You need to start by choosing a provider
[14:27] <ikonia> summit: I think you are just going to cause problems though
[14:27] <blazemore> Kitty_: You can install an iso in VMware just like on a real machine
[14:28] <blazemore> summit: Firstly you choose a provider, then follow their instructions to set it up
[14:28] <Kitty_> blazemore, Thank you :)
[14:28] <summit> blazemore: thanks mate
[14:28] <blazemore> summit: What you're asking is the equivelant of taking a car into the garage to get an oil change, but you don't actually have a car :)
[14:29] <summit> blazemore: hehe! i understand, my friends recommended using it while we played on the private server, apparently alot of losers out there that have gotten them into skype and DDoS'd them and such, i just wanna play a game without issues, but i also don't add random people.
[14:29] <ikonia> summit: a vpn is not the way to do that
[14:30] <dn5> anyone can help me resolve this issue?
[14:30] <blazemore> dn5: What issue?
[14:30] <PashaPasta> dn5: what issue
[14:33] <roasted> Hello friends. I'm having some difficulty manually partitioning my install without it going into a boot loop once install is complete. UEFI is disabled in the BIOS. Here is my partitioning menu - http://i.imgur.com/h7XG7I1.png - which according to Ubuntu Grub GPT documentation, is correct. Even still, it goes into a boot loop upon completion. Did I miss something?
[14:34] <blazemore> roasted: I believe you need a /boot partition although I may be mistaken
[14:34] <roasted> blazemore: I set the EXT4 / partition to have the boot flag on last night's install, but it too failed.
[14:34] <ddssc> got a dir that I can't see with dir or ls. I do see it in nautilus tho. what's the deal with that?
[14:34] <roasted> blazemore: also, that partitioning was pre-install. I think Ubuntu auto adds the boot flag.
[14:35] <llutz> roasted: are you sure the 1MB bios_grub partition is big enough?
[14:35] <ikonia> a /boot partition would help a lot
[14:35] <blazemore> roasted: Try using a /boot partition of around 1GiB formatted to ext2
[14:35] <ikonia> 1GB??
[14:35] <ikonia> 300mb
[14:35] <budmang> Anyone here use ipmitool at all?
[14:35] <blazemore> inb4 1GiB is overkill; he has a terrabyte drive he can afford
[14:35] <blazemore> damn
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> roasted: is that elementary OS?
[14:35] <roasted> llutz: it's what the Ubuntu documentation said.
[14:35] <roasted> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu GNOME 13.04
[14:35] <saiarcot895> ddssc: out of curiosity, what's the dir?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> roasted: looks weird
[14:36] <llutz> there is no need for a sep /boot for grub-gpt
[14:36] <roasted> ActionParsnip: if by weird, you mean awesome, yes. :P
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> roasted: all silvery and that..in an official flavour....
[14:36] <ddssc> saiarcot895: .idea, it's jetbrains project dir..
[14:36] <roasted> llutz: from the Ubuntu GPT Grub2 documentation -If the BIOS is setup to boot the disk in Legacy/mbr mode, installing GRUB2 on a GPT (GUID Partition Table) disk requires a dedicated BIOS boot partition with a recommended size of at least 1 MiB. This partition can be created via GParted or other partitioning tools, or via the command line. It must be identified with a bios_grub flag. The necessary GPT modules are automatically included during
[14:36] <roasted> installation when GRUB 2 detects a GPT scheme.
[14:36] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu is it ?
[14:36] <ikonia> as different versions of ubuntu handle it different
[14:37] <ikonia> roasted: which version is it ?
[14:37] <roasted> 13.04
[14:37] <chunkyhead> guys i've noticed the backspace key doesn't work anymore in nautilus! a little help here pls?
[14:37] <ne0h> am trying to copy some files of about 1gb into my flash and it is saying 8hours on ubuntu 12.04
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> chunkyhead: does it work in gedit?
[14:37] <ikonia> roasted: ok, so that should be able to deal with a current gpt layout
[14:37] <llutz> roasted: ok, using grub-gpt with a similar partitioning scheme here, just the bios_grub has 250MB (was an EFI-part before)
[14:37] <saiarcot895> ddssc: oh, ls requires -a
[14:37] <fossterer> chunkyhead: Alt + Let Arrow
[14:38] <roasted> llutz: are you using legacy bios with a GPT table?
[14:38] <llutz> roasted: atm yes
[14:38] <roasted> llutz: 13.04? no issues manually installing?
[14:38] <llutz> roasted: nope, debian sid
[14:38] <chunkyhead> ActionParsnip, lol it does. 13.04 nautilus has removed the feature. thanks fossterer !
[14:38] <roasted> llutz: is there any way I could trouble you for a screenshot of gparted?
[14:38] <ddssc> ddssc: so .dirs are hidden i presume
[14:38] <fossterer> chunkyhead: np
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: yes
[14:38] <roasted> llutz: I've done at least 20 installs convinced I'm making a mistake, but I can't figure it out.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: hence:  ~/.mozilla    holding the config for mozilla products, is a folder
[14:39] <llutz> roasted: https://gist.github.com/llutz/5885185
[14:41] <roasted> llutz: yeah I have no idea why mine isn't working.
[14:41] <ikonia> roasted: does grub actually come up ?
[14:41] <roasted> ikonia: no
[14:42] <roasted> ikonia: it's very strange. The system fires up, I see the lenovo screen, and it shuts off...
[14:42] <ikonia> roasted: ok so your problem is before ubuntu
[14:42] <roasted> ikonia: then it fires up again, tries to boot, nothing, tries to network boot, nothing, and says no operating system found.
[14:42] <ikonia> roasted: it's baically where your bios is looking to boot doesn't exist/work
[14:42] <llutz> roasted: sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[14:42] <roasted> llutz: been there. I also tried that boot-repair utility.
[14:42] <roasted> ikonia: if I install to MBR, it works. I'm just not sure why GPT isn't
[14:43] <ikonia> roasted: ok, that explains a lot
[14:43] <roasted> ikonia: oh?
[14:43] <ikonia> roasted: where are you putting the boot record when it fails ?
[14:43] <roasted> ikonia: I was putting boot onto /, which was the 3rd partition in http://i.imgur.com/h7XG7I1.png
[14:43] <ddssc> it baffles me how linux manages to make basic stuff like listing files and removing non-empty complicated...
[14:43] <ikonia> roasted: no the boot record
[14:44] <ikonia> roasted: if you put the boot record on the mbr...it works, where do you put it when it doens't work
[14:44] <roasted> ikonia: I'm not sure I follow...
[14:44] <ikonia> roasted: you said "when I put grub on the mbr it works"
[14:44] <roasted> ikonia: grub is on /... and bios_boot is flagged on the first partition
[14:44] <ikonia> roasted: where are you putting it when it doesn't work
[14:44] <ikonia> roasted: no - grub is not on /
[14:44] <roasted> ikonia: I meant when I partition table the entire SSD to MBR, and install in the exact same fashion, it works fine.
[14:44] <ikonia> roasted: or shouldn't be on / otherwise how do you expect it to boot ?
[14:44] <saiarcot895> ddssc: really? rm -r to remove folders, ls to show files, ls -a to show all files (including hidden)
[14:45] <ikonia> roasted: ok, so what is your current boot sector ?
[14:45] <roasted> ikonia: I'm... not sure? Is this something I would see on gparted?
[14:45] <ikonia> no
[14:45] <roasted> ikonia: then I'm afraid I'm not entirely on the same page :(
[14:45] <ikonia> roasted: no matter what partition table format you are using, there must be a boot sector on the disk
[14:45] <lmat> I have a computer that's unable to access the outside world (sort of). Is there any ubuntu configuration I should look at ? The return from ping google.com is
[14:46] <lmat> PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) ... [then hang]
[14:46] <ikonia> roasted: so normally its the windows boot loader, or grub, and it's on the first few sectors of the disk to boot
[14:46] <ikonia> roasted: so, you must have "something" there for it to boot
[14:46] <lmat> So, it gets an IP address, but can't get any data going.
[14:46] <ikonia> roasted: ot it's just going to find nothing and go in a loop
[14:46] <roasted> ikonia: any time I manually partition, I just set swap, root, home, and install. The only thing I'm doing different this time is the 1 MiB partition flagged for bios_grub as per Ubuntu documentation.
[14:47] <ikonia> roasted: ok, so you still need a boot sector
[14:47] <leroides> @search bill hicks
[14:47] <ikonia> leroides: stop
[14:47] <PashaPasta> lmat: do you have any iptables rules running?
[14:47] <ikonia> roasted: eg: when you install grub, it puts all the files into /boot - however the boot sector is put on the start of the disk
[14:47] <roasted> ikonia: don't hit me... but would that be just setting up a dedicated boot partition?
[14:47] <ikonia> roasted: no, as there is nothing where to boot
[14:47] <ikonia> roasted: you need to have something "before" the partition to actually start the boot process
[14:47] <lmat> PashaPasta: iptables -L doesn't list anything
[14:48] <xHkcNZs1> hey
[14:48] <PashaPasta> what's the default rule on iptables?
[14:48] <roasted> ikonia: I see.
[14:48] <lmat> I mean... it says    chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)\ntarget   prot opt source   destination
[14:48] <roasted> ikonia: I'm understanding and following you, I'm just not drawing up an idea as ot what exact I do to fix this.
[14:48] <ddssc> saiarcot895: nothing is complicated when you know it. linux just has too much stuff I cba to learn properly.. and sometimes listing 20 pages of docu with --help will just make me pres ctrl+c. spoiled by gui I guess..
[14:48] <ikonia> roasted: as I'm reading, it sounds like you've created a bios partition, but there is on boot sector on there
[14:48] <lmat> PashaPasta: And it says the some for FORWARD and OUTPUT
[14:48] <lmat> PashaPasta: let me see..
[14:48] <PashaPasta> ok
[14:48] <ikonia> roasted: so when you boot - it scans the disk, doesn't find a boot sector, so can't boot, loop/repeat
[14:48] <roasted> ikonia: I was under the impression that the bios_grub flagged partition was all I needed beyond a regular swap/root/home.
[14:49] <roasted> ikonia: which has lead to my confusion now.
[14:49] <ikonia> roasted: it's not about flagging a partition
[14:49] <ikonia> roasted: it's the boot sector of the disk - forget "partition"
[14:49] <lmat> PashaPasta: How do I check the default rule ?
[14:49] <ikonia> roasted: you still need something at the start of the disk to boot
[14:49] <auronandace> roasted: when you install the bootloader (grub) you need to install it to the disk (eg: sda) not a partition (eg sda1)
[14:50] <roasted> auronandace: I... thought I did.
[14:50] <auronandace> roasted: that is the default setting usually
[14:50] <roasted> ikonia: what "something" do I need? I never did anything else different on other systems that worked, so I'm feeling a little blind right now with what to do.
[14:51] <PashaPasta> sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT and so forth
[14:51] <ikonia> roasted: when you installed, where did you tell it to install the grub
[14:51] <roasted> ikonia: I thought /dev/sda wsa selected by default. I didn't change it.
[14:51] <ikonia> roasted: worth checking
[14:52] <roasted> ikonia: can I check this from a Live session, or must I reinstall and make sure when I get to that setting its correct?
[14:52] <ikonia> roasted: just re-install grub
[14:52] <roasted> I think I would have noticed if it was on a partition, though. I've repaired grub many times and the guide I have bookmarked says in bold letters do not install to /dev/sdX1, just to /dev/sdX...
[14:52] <auronandace> roasted: is this a uefi system?
[14:52] <roasted> ikonia: I did that last night and it failed. :( I'll boot to another live instance and give it a shot.
[14:53] <dhci> is there an ls command that can highlight (colorized) the size of files? so that every 3 digits would be a slightly different color shade.
[14:53] <savagecroc> hey, anyone know anything about the chinese gov's version of ubuntu?
[14:54] <roasted> auronandace: I hav eBIOS set to legacy
[14:54] <auronandace> !uefi | roasted
[14:54] <roasted> yes, I'm aware, and it's disabled. :)
[14:54] <lmat> PashaPasta: it says "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)" Does that answer your question?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> savagecroc  it's called Kylin or so
[14:54] <PashaPasta> yeah
[14:55] <savagecroc> MonkeyDust: yeah, is there any specifics though?
[14:55] <savagecroc> i.e. are they rolling out as part of government systems.. any additional stuff like encryption etc
[14:55] <PashaPasta> lmat: tried a packet capture on the interface to see if anything is passing traffic?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> savagecroc  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin
[14:55] <lmat> PashaPasta: nope. Any recommended tools ? (no gui, please)
[14:55] <PashaPasta> tcpdump
[14:56] <lmat> PashaPasta: Thanks, brb.
[14:56] <PashaPasta> run tcpdump -i <interface> -o <output file>
[14:57] <roasted> ikonia: I just reinstalled grub via this guide - http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html - with /dev/sda3 for step B, and /dev/sda for step C.  My partitions are laid out like this - http://i.imgur.com/h7XG7I1.png - still boot loop....
[14:57] <ikonia> more webupd8....
[14:57] <ikonia> why do people not follow OFFICIAL ubuntu documentation
[14:57] <roasted> ruh roh :(
[14:57] <roasted> is that guide incorrect?
[14:58] <ikonia> not read it, but I just don't see why people keep pulling these 3rd party guides
[14:58] <lmat> PashaPasta: I don't see a -o option...
[14:58] <kelly> hello guys , I'm using right now Ubuntu 13.04 64bit , it's great but i notice there is a slow in performance not like ubuntu 12.04 , how can i make it fast !? my pc spec : i3-2100 + intel 3000 hd + 10 gb ram + 256gb ssd
[14:58] <PashaPasta> then just pipe it into a file to easier reading
[14:59] <ikonia> roasted: this will sound stupid but can you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please, I'm expecting an error about the partition table format
[14:59] <whoever> lmat: or just pipe it to less
[14:59] <roasted> ikonia: yes, because it's GPT.
[14:59] <llutz>  fdisk doesn't handle gpt
[14:59] <ikonia> good,
[15:00] <ikonia> that's what I hoped, just checking
[15:00] <roasted> :)
[15:00] <dhci> there really should be a common script to pipe command output to a pastebin entry
[15:00] <ikonia> dhci: there is, it's called pastbinit
[15:00] <llutz> !pastebinit | dhci
[15:00] <ikonia> roasted: so again, it doesn't sound like it's hitting your boot sector on the disk
[15:01] <roasted> I found 2 things worth checking into on Ubuntu's documentation. The only way it differs is webupd8 says --root-directory but ubuntu's says --boot-directory. Wonder if that's all it is.
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> kelly  a few tricks I picked up in this same channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/5808048/
[15:01] <lmat> PashaPasta: okay, that didn't go so well :) (I didn't pipe to file, so it took control of the console per force)
[15:02] <PashaPasta> heh
[15:02] <PashaPasta> lots of traffic then?
[15:02] <reisio> kelly: change wm
[15:02] <kelly> thank you I'll try it , is intel 3000 hd for unity
[15:02] <lmat> so, a couple seconds reveals 6612 packets captured...
[15:02] <lmat> PashaPasta: yes!
[15:02] <lmat> PashaPasta: And we're on a very small network !
[15:02] <kelly> is it good
[15:03] <PashaPasta> lmat: can you traceroute out?
[15:03] <roasted> ikonia: I think I goofed with that documentation from webupd8, as you predicted.
[15:03] <lmat> PashaPasta: just a sec
[15:03] <roasted> ikonia: --root-directory is for grub 1.98 and earlier....
[15:03] <roasted> a la webupd8's guide
[15:04] <nobitanobi> Hi guys. Installed Vagrant via Software Center on my Ubuntu 12.10, and when trying to do "vagrant up", I get the following error: https://gist.github.com/novito/5885347
[15:04] <roasted> ikonia: unfortunately, it still failed via ubuntu's official documentation. :/
[15:04] <lmat> PashaPasta: traceroute6 google.com returns
[15:04] <kelly> reisio: i love unity :) , is nvidia 440 GT good Friend of mine give it to me
[15:04] <lmat> PashaPasta: connect: Network is unreachable
[15:05] <PashaPasta> ok, try traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:05] <ikonia> roasted: the question is where/what it's trying to boot
[15:05] <reisio> kelly: well compiz is the prime suspect if it seems sluggish
[15:05] <reisio> kelly: and/or your graphics driver/hardware
[15:05] <lmat> PashaPasta: traceroute6 <IP_ADDRESS> returns traceroute: unknown host <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:05] <PashaPasta> nix the ipv6 and use ipv4 traceroute
[15:06] <lmat> PashaPasta: Odd, I don't have it?
[15:06] <PashaPasta> funky
[15:06] <roasted> ikonia: I'm just at a loss for what exactly I need to do to fix this. What's more troubling to me is even if I do fix it, how do I lay out my disk/partitions/flags/whatever on a 100% fresh install to install it properly and successfully the next time.
[15:06] <lmat> PashaPasta: trace{tab}{tab}  gives tracepath tracepath6 traceroute6 traceroute6.iputils
[15:06] <ikonia> roasted: you've got other gpt machines working ok ?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> lmat,, just run traceroute without the 6
[15:07] <lmat> BluesKaj: "The program 'traceroute' can be found in the following packages:...Ask your administrator to install one of them"
[15:07] <ddssc> how do I list users in a group?
[15:07] <roasted> ikonia: yes, many
[15:07] <lmat> ddssc: cat /etc/group | grep groupname
[15:07] <roasted> ikonia: not on this *exact* model though, but many others without issue.
[15:08] <lmat> ddssc: doh! useless use of cat...   grep groupname /etc/group
[15:08] <rypervenche> lmat: cap grep :/
[15:08] <llutz> ddssc: getent group <groupname>
[15:08] <ikonia> roasted: same sort of machines though....
[15:08] <kelly> reisio: is there an easy way to share printer and files between ubuntu and windows ?
[15:08] <ddssc> lmat: thanks
[15:08] <lmat> rypervenche: What does cap grep mean?
[15:08] <irreverant> isn't that get report
[15:08] <reisio> kelly: frequently, yes
[15:09] <roasted> ikonia: the only other thing ist he BIOS is dated 2011. I tried to update it last night, but it wouldn't boot to my external CD ROM drive. It does not have an optical drive built in.
[15:09] <roasted> ikonia: the BIOS update comes in ISO or EXE, hence my comment about CD ROM'ing it.
[15:09] <kelly> reisio: Could you tell me plz How can i share ?
[15:09] <ikonia> roasted: I know the lenovo's quite well
[15:09] <irreverant> lmat: global regular expression print
[15:09] <rypervenche> lmat: typo, I meant that you cat-grepped, but you realized just afterward. ):
[15:09] <rypervenche> :)*
[15:09] <reisio> kelly: you want to share a printer between two separate boxes, one GNU/Linux, one Windows, over the network?
[15:10] <whoever> kelly what are you tring to share
[15:10] <roasted> ikonia: Lenovo has been quite problematic with us unfortunately. Part of me was getting to the point of ditching this but I really don't see how this particular scenario isn't solvable. I'm feeling that it's user error all the way, unlike some of our other woes where we couldn't swap wireless cards due to everything but the chip it came with being blacklisted, etc.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> lmat, iputils-tracepath ?
[15:10] <kelly> the printer connected to the windows and i want to access to the printer from ubuntu
[15:10] <lmat> irreverant: thanks, but I was aware :)
[15:11] <kelly> i want to share files also between both of the computers
[15:11] <ikonia> roasted: I couldn't have a more positive view with lenovo, but I'm sure the model matter, I'm just reading the ubuntu efi doc now
[15:11] <ikonia> roasted: stupid question, this is ubuntu 64bit ?
[15:11] <roasted> ikonia: yes
[15:11] <lmat> BluesKaj: PashaPasta: tracepath google.com returns   1: [my ip address]\n1: no reply\n2: no reply  etc
[15:11] <roasted> ikonia: all I've used for years.
[15:11] <ikonia> just checking
[15:11] <roasted> :)
[15:12] <roasted> ikonia: the BIOS installed is dated 2011. There was a BIOS update on the Lenovo site as recent as March 2013.
[15:12] <lmat> rypervenche: I was going to just give him    cat /etc/group   and tell him to filter the results, then I decided it was so easy, I would add the grep ^_^
[15:13] <lmat> PashaPasta: So it looks like the 120 device is going a bit bonkers?
[15:13] <whoever> kelly go to #samba
[15:13] <ikonia> roasted: could you just check yourself against this doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:13] <lmat> PashaPasta: Or... it's a backup server, perhaps it's doing a backup now.
[15:15] <roasted> ikonia: in particular were you curious about the boot repair utility? So far everything else on there sounds familiar.
[15:15] <ikonia> roasted: just in general, I've used that doc before, so just wanted you to walk through it against what you've done and see if anything stands out
[15:16] <ikonia> roasted: the efi partition of 100mb not 1mb seems worth a look
[15:16] <ikonia> but just a general "yes, matches up" check
[15:16] <roasted> ikonia: but is the EFI partition @ 100 MB relevant for Legacy mode, or UEFI mode?
[15:16] <roasted> ikonia: I've used a 100 MB EFI partition when I tried installing via UEFI mode with 0 success.
[15:16] <ikonia> roasted: sorry if I've missed a bit, are you putting in efi or legacy mode
[15:16] <llutz> roasted: for UEFI only, because it has to hold the efi-files.
[15:16] <roasted> ikonia: but I don't think I've used 100 MB EFI partition with Legacy...
[15:17] <roasted> ikonia: I'm trying legacy with GPT table, but I'll use whatever if itw orks - however I'd prefer to not use MBR.
[15:17] <ikonia> roasted: sorry I missed the part in legacy mode
[15:17] <ikonia> roasted: ok, can you check against this one please https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUbuntu11.10OnLenovoEFI/GPT/WLAN/Power/BIOS
[15:17] <roasted> ikonia: recent trials have been done with lgacy because I figured it'd be the easier mountain to overcome.
[15:18] <ikonia> roasted: (ignore the lan stuff)
[15:18] <roasted> ikonia: that introduction to the most recent link sure catches my eye.
[15:18] <roasted> "Lenovo's EFI implimentation seems not to be perfect on some newer Lenovo notebooks."
[15:18] <roasted> color me surprised.
[15:18] <whoever> kelly: to share go to samba channel
[15:18] <ikonia> roasted: just given you the wrong doc, sorry
[15:18] <ikonia> hang on
[15:18] <roasted> oh, it's not relevant?
[15:18] <ikonia> roasted: well, it's not "bad"
[15:19] <ikonia> roasted: but it's not the detailed guide I thought I had book marked
[15:19] <roasted> I thought "Lenovo's EFI implimentation seems not to be perfect on some newer Lenovo notebooks." sounded like a good culprit. :P
[15:19] <kelly> thank you
[15:19] <reisio> well, if they're using EFI at all, they don't have free Unix OSes in mind
[15:19] <reisio> which is no surprise, really
[15:19] <reisio> but we digress
[15:19] <reisio> you have a problem and not a solution
[15:19] <roasted> reisio: Lenovo and Linux has turned out to be quite a bummer when dealing with them on the enterprise level.
[15:20] <roasted> "Yes, we have Linux devs internally" *sale is made for 2,000 units* then we find out they lied and we're stuck doing our own tailoring. /facepalm
[15:20] <big_bird> hello everyone
[15:20] <reisio> no worries, computer hardware is getting so small, that now laptops are becoming as empty as desktops became
[15:20] <roasted> but that's a conversation for OT or a PM... :P
[15:20] <reisio> so assembling your own laptop is more and more realistic
[15:20] <big_bird> look here : http://wps-community.org/
[15:20] <reisio> big_bird: hiyo
[15:20] <reisio> big_bird: why? :)
[15:20] <ikonia> roasted: check some of the notes on here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[15:20] <shinao1> Hi guys! I have a bit of a problem.. I need to junk my older HP 12.1" dv4 pavilion notebook for something newer (and less prone to cook my skin). I use Ubuntu and Fedora interchangeably.. which mid-size ( um, NOT TOO EXPENSIVE )laptop/ultrabook would be good for Linux these days? ANy recs?
[15:21] <ikonia> shinao1: check friendly.ubuntu.com
[15:21] <roasted> reisio: I'd welcome that so much. With Android sticks and R-Pi's packing what power they do in a small form factor, it'd be fantastic to have a universal slot loader for different pre-bundled form fitted chips which packs the CPU, GPU, memory, etc.
[15:21] <shinao1> Thanks ikonia
[15:21] <roasted> ikonia: that wa sthe guide I used to reinstall grub2 after the webupd8 conversation a little bit ago
[15:21] <big_bird> this is WPS 's Internationl wiki page
[15:21] <big_bird> and you can get the lastest WPS here http://wps-community.org/
[15:22] <ikonia> roasted: it all points to not hitting a valid boot sector....why is a different issue.
[15:22] <reisio> roasted: it's coming; soldered-together ultrabooks are not long for this world
[15:22] <reisio> and if you don't need an ultrabook you can do it now
[15:23] <roasted> reisio: mind if I PM you? (hate to build on this conversation here)
[15:23] <big_bird> About Kingsoft Office: Kingsoft Office ( also known as WPS Office ) is a vibrant office suite. We have more than 200 developers and always devote ourselves to creating comfortable, efficient and smart office experience.
[15:24] <jcadduono> so i took my hdd out of my computer, threw it into a usb enclosure, and prayed for ubuntu to boot. it...doesn't work. it hangs somewhere and initramfs pops up saying uuid not found, any ideas?
[15:24] <auronandace> big_bird: stop advertising here
[15:24] <lmat> PashaPasta: I just noticed that I can't ping google.com using my laptop, either!
[15:24] <lmat> PashaPasta: (I'm doing my work on my laptop, and connecting to the servec I'm working on over SSH)
[15:24] <DJones> big_bird: Please don't advertise, its seen as spam
[15:24] <lmat> This is almost assuredly a router issue.
[15:25] <aringan> hi guys , I configured my ubuntu 12.04. but when I reboot it all the iptables settings and network configurations are gone !
[15:26] <aringan> how can make them persistent
[15:26] <ikonia> iptables-save
[15:26] <ikonia> !ufw | artista_frustrad
[15:26] <ikonia> oops
[15:26] <ikonia> !ufw | aringan
[15:27] <reisio> roasted: why would I
[15:27] <big_bird> okay ~ :) . my International Community just come out .And I just want share it to everyone, if anyone need a office suit which are better than libreoffice on linux.
[15:27] <llutz> big_bird: Stop Spamming
[15:27] <reisio> big_bird: does it use Java™ at all?
[15:27] <big_bird> All C++
[15:27] <reisio> big_bird: is it free / open source?
[15:27] <DJones> !ot
[15:27] <big_bird> it's free but no opensoucre
[15:28] <reisio> then how could it possibly be better
[15:28] <PashaPasta> lmat: sounds like a router issue on your end and its likely dropping incoming ICMP as well
[15:28] <lmat> PashaPasta: That must be it. Thanks for your help!
[15:31] <aringan> ubottu ; thank you for recomending ufw. I think iptabels-save. will work for me. and then other problem is I also lost my network configuration !!! what about them ?!
[15:33] <yk> team
[15:33] <aringan> ikonia ;I think iptabels-save. will work for me. and then other problem is I also lost my network configuration !!! what about them ?!
[15:33] <ikonia> aringan: that shouldn't go
[15:34] <fish_bird> exit
[15:34] <aringan> but why was it gone ?
[15:35] <ikonia> where do you think it's going from ?
[15:35] <ikonia> where did you set it ?
[15:36] <aringan> I set them by ifconfig command
[15:36] <aringan> after I reboot the OS they were gone !
[15:37] <llutz> aringan: ifconfig settings aren't permanent. use networkmanager or /etc/network/interfaces to configure your network
[15:42] <Galidari> Hi everyone. I have a question about autogen if anyone has a moment. I need to do a build and apparently autogen is missing from the bash. Anybody else run into theis problem
[15:42] <jcadduono> is there any way i can boot ubuntu from usb hdd enclosure...hanging on boot and then initramfs uuid not found
[15:42] <irreverant> anyone in here use bsh? or csh?
[15:43] <Galidari> Hi everyone. I have a question about autogen if anyone has a moment. I need to do a build and apparently autogen is missing from the bash. Anybody else run into theis problem
[15:43] <Shredded> hello everyone, can anybody help me tweak gnome please ?
[15:44] <bazhang> !repeat | Galidari
[15:44] <bazhang> Shredded, get gnome-tweak-tool
[15:44] <Shredded> does it tweak gnome's main menu ?
[15:44] <Galidari> Gotcha. Thanks ubottu.
[15:44] <Shredded> i need the system tab removed
[15:45] <Shredded> http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4161/yuv6.png
[15:45] <Shredded> this one
[15:45] <bazhang> Shredded, tweak is a very broad term, give the exact changes you want
[15:45] <BlueChaos> hello , romanian assistence where I can find?
[15:45] <llutz> !ro
[15:45] <Shredded> the extension to system
[15:45] <bazhang> !ro | BlueChaos
[15:45] <BlueChaos> thank you
[15:45] <bazhang> Shredded, try it and see
[15:46] <Shredded> bazhang did you see my picture ?
[15:46] <bazhang> !info autogen | Galidari
[15:48] <jcadduono> urg, what's the name of ubuntu software center package...an apt-get dist-upgrade somehow removed it last night (oh the joys of playing with saucy)
[15:48] <Galidari> I'm doing this for quality assurance in LibreOffice development community. Won't I need autogen to download the source and for the initial build?
[15:49] <bazhang> jcadduono, saucy help in #ubuntu+1
[15:49] <jcadduono> all i wanted was a package name ;_;
[15:50] <Pici> Galidari: Maybe I've misunderstood your comment, but are you aware that Ubuntu distributes binary packages?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> jcadduono: if you need to be told something basic like that, you probably shouldnt be using saucy in any way
[15:50] <roasted> ikonia: I updated the BIOS, repaired grub via live session, repaired grub via boot repair utility... all failed. Only thing left is to do a fresh install, which is that fails, I will likely trash this Lenovo.
[15:50] <bazhang> he's gone ActionParsnip
[15:51] <Galidari> Pici: Yes but isn't autogen still required for the initial build?
[15:51] <Pici> Galidari: What initial build?
[15:51] <Galidari> Pici: I'm downloading the source for LibreOffice and I need to build the package after that.
[15:51] <killer> hey
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Galidari: is there not a PPA?
[15:52] <killer> anyone trieed ubuntu on lenovo ideapad s110?
[15:52] <Pici> Galidari: And why is that stopping you from installing the autogen package?
[15:52] <jose__> Hi, what is the easy way to get Ubuntu ARM image running in QEMU?
[15:52] <killer> I can't play even basic videos  smoothly , it was smooth in windows
[15:52] <Galidari> ActionParsnip: Great name! I'm sure there is but I'm just starting out in programming and well...you know.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Galidari: big thing to start with :)
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Galidari: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases
[15:53] <Galidari> Pici: Well in the LibreOffice online documentation it's the first step in downloading the source. Plus one of the guys in the forum last night told me about it.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Galidari: libreoffice 4.1.0 PPA
[15:53] <Pici> Galidari: Is sudo apt-get install autogen  not working?
[15:53] <Galidari> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[15:54] <Galidari> I'll try that, Pici!
[15:54] <Pici> !software | Galidari
[15:54] <Galidari> Pici: Whoo-hoo!
[15:55] <BlueChaos> pici
[15:55] <Pici> BlueChaos: yes?
[15:55] <Galidari> ubottu: Thank you again!
[15:55] <BlueChaos> give me a url from where to install my nvidia agp (ubuntu 12.04)
[15:55] <Galidari> Hence the name ubottu. Ha!!!
[15:56] <BlueChaos>  gf nvidia 9600 (1gb)
[15:56] <Pici> BlueChaos: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[15:56] <BlueChaos> thank you
[15:56] <Galidari> Going to try this now that I have the file.
[15:56] <killer> I can't play even basic videos  smoothly , it was smooth in windows
[15:56] <Galidari> Best community on earth, by the way.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:57] <killer> on my netbook
[15:57] <BlueChaos> ActionParsnip>
[15:58] <BlueChaos> I'm using wine i'm wanna play games (exe on him ) but don`t work for that reason I'm must to install that agp
[15:58] <BlueChaos> it's a good one ?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: yes, that wil install the nvidia driver for you
[15:59] <Galidari> D'oh! I downloaded it and it still says it no longer exists. Then it says it's no longer required. I may have been talking to somebody last night who's using an older version of Ubuntu? I dunno.
[15:59] <BlueChaos> ok thank you ActionParsnip
[15:59] <BlueChaos> i'm will try him
[16:02] <BlueChaos> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5808207/
[16:02] <killer> I did lspci | grep VGA and got
[16:02] <killer> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
[16:03] <killer> what driver should i instll so , ubuntu recognize my video card
[16:03] <zquad> does xxd come with vim?
[16:03] <withnale> How do I disable the annoying behavior in ubuntu where the first time I use a key it opens a window and asks me for the key passphrase, even though I have already added it via ssh-add on the command line?
[16:04] <zquad> or how do I install Xxd with vim?
[16:04] <Pici> zquad: it comes with vim.
[16:04] <BlueChaos> ActionParsnip,
[16:04] <BlueChaos> are u there?
[16:06] <nevyn> withnale: huh? that doesn't happen for me...
[16:07] <rypervenche> withnale: You have to not create a password for the keyrnig.
[16:07] <nevyn> oh... that..
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: mostly
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: do you use encryptfs?
[16:13] <DylanCl> Hi.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> hi DylanCl
[16:15] <zquad> thanks
[16:17] <BlueChaos> ActionParsnip, I did now couple of hours a partial update
[16:17] <BlueChaos> maybe from that reasons I got that error
[16:18] <BlueChaos> now I'm see I have allot errors on  him ..
[16:18] <nbubuntu> anyone can help me out.I can't find any application on ubuntu to defrag my hard disk
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: partial upgrades arent good
[16:19] <somsip> !defrag | nbubuntu
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> nbubuntu: its not needed in journalized partitions
[16:19] <smallmouse> help my you tube videos seem to be playing at 10x speed
[16:19] <smallmouse> 64 bit edition 13.04
[16:19] <BlueChaos> I know but before upgrate it first version was 10.10
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnas|swf|spark'
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: please use http://pastie.org or similar to host
[16:20] <nbubuntu> ActionParsnip  somsip : Sorry I didn't explain well. It's not on ext4 , it's on ntfs other partition
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: did you upgrade direct from 10.10 to the version you have now?
[16:20] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/8091752
[16:20] <BlueChaos> yes
[16:20] <BlueChaos> a partial update.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: thats why then, you dont upgrade ubuntu like that
[16:21] <smallmouse> BlueChaos: im not going to upgrade again for a few year, every new upgrade has issues for some time, moved from 12.04 working fine to 13xx now lots of issues..
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: http://pastebin.com/qD8UeEiV
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: did you upgrade to 12.10 in between?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> BlueChaos: if you leapfrog releases you WILL get issues.
[16:22] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: full reinstall - incuding wiped disk.
[16:22] <nbubuntu> ActionParsnip  somsip : so ,any application to defrag the partition ?
[16:22] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: virtualbox keeps crashing, mozilla, etc etc too many problems
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nbubuntu: I recommend you use a Windows OS to defrag it, NTFS is proprietary to MIcrosoft so their tools will be the ideal way, Auslogics make a great defrag tool
[16:23] <BlueChaos> smallmouse I had my reasons to do upgrade ( updating manager don`t fetch ,)
[16:23] <BlueChaos> ActionParsnip, i'm will do another bootable disk and i'm will reinstall it .
[16:23] <smallmouse> BlueChaos: i though there was more updated drivers, but alas other things are now broken including my mouse, video driver
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: you have multiple flash plugins, you need to make it so you only have one
[16:24] <nbubuntu> ActionParsnip  somsip : so ,not even 1 tools for ubuntu to check on fragmentation ?
[16:25] <orange_> Hey, can anyone help me install graphical drivers? I messed up my OS the last like 10 times I tried..
[16:25] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tFi3WLcf
[16:26] <BlueChaos> smallmouse ....like I sayd i'm will  reinstall ubuntu with a stable version no more update...is sux
[16:27] <smallmouse> BlueChaos: i will try this last solution from action. but if i have more problems back to 12.04 LTS
[16:27] <smallmouse> BlueChaos: i also heard ultimate is good and bug free based on 12.04 LTS
[16:27] <smallmouse> BlueChaos: http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-3-4-lts/
[16:27] <bazhang> !ot | smallmouse
[16:27] <Pici> !ultimate
[16:28] <bazhang> smallmouse, dont advertise that here
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: --purge not -purge
[16:28] <smallmouse> bazhang: sorry i thought it was all the same base
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> smallmouse: my mistake, sorry
[16:28] <nbubuntu> ActionParsnip  somsip : Is it really so ?  ,not even 1 tools for ubuntu to check on fragmentation ?
[16:28] <smallmouse> bazhang: are you saying this is not a proper version ?
[16:29] <BlueChaos> smallmouse let's talk in pm
[16:29] <BlueChaos> i like how he's look
[16:29] <bazhang> smallmouse, it is offtopic here, not supported
[16:29] <bazhang> nbubuntu, ask for tools in ##windows
[16:29] <smallmouse> bazhang: know its not supported will speak to bluechaos
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> nbubuntu: its a proprietary file system. I would not advise using anything but windows tools on it as it is windows.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> nbubuntu: 3rd party tools may mess your file system as  the inner workings are not publicl documented
[16:30] <smallmouse> ActionParsnip: thank you
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> nbubuntu: you can boot to a windows install CD and run a defrag from there, or a Windows live CD and do it there
[16:32] <nbubuntu> bazhang ActionParsnip : ok , I understand. Normally , I just wanted to check for fragmentation on my drive partition.Mostly I read a fragmented hard drive will affect the live span on a drive.That's the main point i wanted it get it fix
[16:32] <foofoobar> Hi. I have a few ssh servers where I connect to via key auth.  Can I change the mouse pointer theme through the terminal normally even if I'm using a WM that is not Gnome or KDE?
[16:39] <nevyn> foofoobar: if you want the why's and wherefore's I'll find the link that explains how key auth works and how an agent and agent forwarding works...
[16:39] <foofoobar> nevyn, no, its okay. I'm fine that it works
[16:39] <foofoobar> thanks for your help
[16:40] <BlueChaos> Thank you all for u support see you soon bye !
[16:40] <nbubuntu> bazhang ActionParsnip : thanks :)
[16:41] <reisio> sin__: you should be able to via config files even if you can't with a command
[16:41] <sin__> reisio: through my WM config files or Ubuntu ones?
[16:42] <reisio> sin__: whichever
[16:42] <reisio> ~/.icons, ~/.Xdefaults, etc.
[16:43] <reisio> grep -ilr cursor ~/.config
[16:44] <sin__> reisio: thank you very much. I can figure it out from here. Just making sure that going through the steps to install a Ubuntu mouse theme wouldn't be in vain. Again thanks for the help.
[16:45] <reisio> sin__: yeah, X cursors are X cursors
[16:45] <reisio> Canonical hasn't made its own cursor format/implementation yet :p
[16:46] <sin__> reisio: That makes sense.
[16:46] <reisio> sin__: also
[16:47] <reisio> sin__: you can play with what is on my system /usr/share/cursors/xorg-11/default, which is just a symlink to whatever cursor set dir of your choice
[16:47] <aringan> hey guys, whenever I am going to make any changes to my ftp setting, do I have to remove the "#" to make the change effective ?
[16:47] <reisio> sin__: but obviously that is less portable than using ~/ stuff
[16:48] <reisio> aringan: # usually starts a comment
[16:48] <d-egg> Hi, I want to add a man page directory to manpath.config and it should be preferred over other locations.  What is the best way to do that?
[16:48] <d-egg> or generally
[16:48] <aringan> Default umask for local users is 077. You may wish to change this to 022,
[16:48] <aringan> this is the default and staring with #
[16:49] <aringan> so if it is a comment how does it know to listen to 22 c?
[16:50] <aringan> cuz I want to change it to another port , and I am not sure if I have to remove that # from the beggining of the line !
[16:50] <aringan> anyone ?!!!
[16:50] <sin__> reisio: Thanks for the info. I'll see what I can do. Wouldn't by chance already know of a very minimum mouse theme? I want something close to just a dot, but changes colour or gets a big bigger when hovering links or whatnot.
[16:52] <reisio> sin__: why just a dot?
[16:52] <Pici> aringan: I have no idea what you are asking. Maybe if you pastebin your config file and explain what you're trying to accomplish we can help you better.
[16:52] <k1l> aringan: everything starting with a # will not be executed in that file
[16:52] <aringan> sure
[16:53] <sin__> reisio: I use i3 WM, VIM and Luakit which are all very keyboard based programs. I rarely use my mouse, but I don't want to hide it all the time to get it out of my way so I thought a small cursor would be convienant. It's not a big deal just trying it out.
[16:53] <nevyn> 02:55 < SynrG> i think problems with testing builds of installer go to #debian-boot
[16:54] <reisio> sin__: oh manually hide it
[16:54] <reisio> sin__: use unclutter to do it automatically
[16:54] <nevyn> wow that was wildly inappropriate sorry everyone.
[16:54] <aringan> pici ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5808352/ . this is part of my config
[16:54] <reisio> nevyn: :D
[16:54] <aringan> what I wana do is to change the listening port from 22 to somthing else
[16:55] <Pici> aringan: umask has nothing to do with changing the port.
[16:55] <sin__> reisio: I've been using unclutter; just thought I would try this out.
[16:55] <reisio> sin__: oh okay
[16:55] <reisio> sin__: well you can make your own theme in like a work day
[16:55] <reisio> sin__: use apt-file to find the package that has 'xcursorgen'
[16:55] <reisio> or 'type xcursorgen', you might have it already
[16:55] <Pici> aringan: Also, port 22 is most commonly used by ssh, it would be weird to have your ftpd running on that port.
[16:55] <aringan> so what should I do ?
[16:56] <juanpablo> hola necesito ayuda
[16:56] <Pici> !es | juanpablo
[16:56] <sin__> reisio: Oh, thanks. That was going to be my next project if I couldn't find a theme I like.
[16:56] <sin__> reisio: I'll try that out.
[16:56] <Pici> aringan: Are you using ssh on that machine at all?
[16:56] <reisio> sin__: I'm not sure I've seen one of the sort you described, not that I ever looked for one like that
[16:56] <aringan> yes
[16:57] <Pici> aringan: What program is this config file for?
[16:57] <sin__> reisio: I think I'll just make my own theme so it is excatly what I want. Thanks a lot for all the help.
[16:57] <irreverant> Is there a mac channel?
[16:58] <aringan> Pici ; vsftpd
[16:58] <reisio> sin__: that's what I did :D
[16:58] <reisio> irreverant: #macosx
[16:58] <reisio> irreverant: /msg alis list *mac* look for largest number
[16:58] <khorchani> hi
[16:59] <Pici> aringan: vsftpd should be listening on port 21 by default. Is that a problem?
[16:59] <reisio> khorchani: hi
[17:00] <Pici> aringan: I'm just confused as you're saying that you don't want it running on port 22 but by default it shouldn't be running on that.
[17:00] <aringan> I believe it is listening to 21 , but i want to change it !
[17:00] <ikonia> why /
[17:00] <ikonia> what's wrong with listening on the correct port
[17:00] <aringan> I just don't know how to change it
[17:01] <Pici> aringan: not to port 22? to another port?
[17:01] <aringan> yes
[17:01] <aringan> like 2901
[17:02] <Pici> aringan: you'd need to change the listen_port option in that file. If it doesn't exist, add it.
[17:03] <killer> Does ubuntu support 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
[17:03] <killer> ?
[17:05] <luk> hi
[17:06] <luk> Helo Word:)
[17:06] <luk> Who is read this ?
[17:06] <luk> lol
[17:06] <cgtdk> hello, greetings are unnecessary. State your question
[17:07] <reisio> cgtdk: and yet you use them! :p
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> luk if you just want to chill and chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:09] <luk> Did I write and the man himself can read
[17:09] <luk> the first use of the IRC
[17:09] <luk> (Still reserved for this Googe translate)
[17:11] <OerHeks> killer, maybe this page is any help with that D2xx/N2xx integrated card http://askubuntu.com/questions/230900/cedarview-drivers-boot-to-a-blank-screen
[17:11] <OerHeks> 2D should work, 3D you need to test
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> OerHeks, just so you're aware, killer quit pinged out >_>
[17:15] <OerHeks> Ari-Yang, i see, thanks.
[17:18] <jaa> vv
[17:20] <gswain> what is the ubuntu version of the wheel group
[17:21] <cgtdk> gswain: I think it's 'sudo'
[17:21] <Pici> indeed
[17:21] <gswain> i noticed there was an admin group as well as sudo when i did a visudo
[17:21] <gswain> so i was not sure which to add myself to
[17:22] <Layke> Are server clocks consistent to the ms ?
[17:22] <Layke> I'm just strugglingt o debug something. Wondering if it could be related to a timing problem.
[17:22] <auronandace> gswain: sudo is the right one, admin is the older one that used to be used
[17:22] <gswain> excellent thank you
[17:32] <zugaaz> How can I install ubuntu 13.04 with a text based installer?
[17:32] <zugaaz> or can I install the live CD through the terminal?
[17:32] <cgtdk> zugaaz: Use the minimal image
[17:33] <cgtdk> zugaaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:33] <zugaaz> cgtdk: i cannot get the minimal image to work with unetbootin
[17:33] <cgtdk> :(
[17:33] <luke1> yes like cgtdk said us the minimal cd
[17:33] <luke1> use
[17:35] <zugaaz> is there any way in the regular live disc i can press "ctrl+alt+f2"
[17:35] <zugaaz> and install from terminal
[17:35] <zugaaz> I'm just having trouble installing because i have an nvidia graphics card
[17:36] <sir_tyrion> how bad is it if i had a precise repo to my software sources on a raring comp
[17:36] <sir_tyrion> so i can get postgres-server-9.2-dev
[17:36] <sir_tyrion> *postgresql-server-dev-9.2
[17:37] <zebulon5> Hi!
[17:37] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | zugaaz
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Big problem: After reinstalling Unity webapps, Unity seems to have been removed! (The window manager, etc. are still there, but no menu bar, launcher, etc.)
[17:40] <zebulon5> Anyone around?
[17:40] <zebulon5> I'm trying to install 13.04
[17:40] <zebulon5> so I put it on a pendrive usb
[17:40] <zebulon5> and it installs
[17:40] <zebulon5> but once I take it out and reset it won't leave the bios menu
[17:43] <kokoye2007> who can help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamsDNSAdmin
[17:44] <Pici> kokoye2007: #ubuntu-locoteams and maybe #canonical-sysadmin
[17:44] <kokoye2007> thx Pici locoteams is advice to canonical-sysadmin
[17:44] <kokoye2007> :D
[17:47] <Captain_Proton> Does anyone remeber where remmina keeps the server key it collects
[17:49] <luke1> I have a program that installs through the terminal (a .pl file) and it says it needs kernel headers. I'm new to linux and i don't know what that means. what folder are they in?
[17:49] <APV> How do I make two partitions out of one?
[17:49] <OerHeks> Captain_Proton, those keys should be stored in your keyring, Dash->type "keys"->Passwords&Keys.
[17:49] <sk0tto> trying to install 13.04 on a Lenovo X120e (UEFI) but the OS isn't found after installation.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[17:49] <APV> I have the only one, and I need second for win8
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> sk0tto, Generally the ubuntu forums has the most informed help on uefi, start a thread there and here is a link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> sk0tto, Make sure to have W8 backed up as well.
[17:53] <sk0tto> Thank you.  It was a hand-me-down laptop, the OS was already blown away when I got it.
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> sk0tto, Cool, you will get help from that thread starter if you make a thread they focus on this.
[17:55] <sk0tto> Awesome, thanks for all your help!
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> sk0tto, No problem.
[17:57] <anoncn_78> sera
[18:04] <lov> Hello. I'd like to tile the windows on my desktops, but I'd like to do so using Unity instead of using another WM. Is this possible?
[18:05] <bekks> lov: No.
[18:05] <lov> bekks: crud. Thanks.
[18:06] <madprops> lov, http://www.markhansen.co.nz/xmonad-ubuntu-oneiric/
[18:06] <killer> hey , ubuntu 13.04 isn't playing videos smoothly with my netbook , but windws 7 on same netbook is ok
[18:08] <lov> madprops: hmm, interesting. thanks.
[18:08] <mehwork> when is the next ubuntu LTS coming out for a 13+ version?
[18:09] <bazhang> mehwork, 14.04 is the next
[18:09] <madprops> lov, don't listen to the nay sayers :P
[18:09] <cgtdk> which should be released in april 2014
[18:09] <cgtdk> iirc
[18:09] <lov> madprops: you're not helping :P
[18:10] <Aethysius> Hi, I've some issues with some non-KDE apps in Kubuntu, and they sent me here.
[18:11] <krad> how to list services that start on bootup
[18:11] <Aethysius> Banshee, MuseScore, Hydrogen, and Rosegarden either don't work or crash.
[18:12] <auronandace> Aethysius: if any of those are ppas then we can't help with them
[18:12] <Aethysius> Oh.
[18:12] <krad> how to list services that start on bootup?
[18:13] <cgtdk> Banshee is in the regular repository
[18:13] <cgtdk> don't know about the other ones
[18:13] <Aethysius> The others are....I think.
[18:13] <Aethysius> Didn't have to do anything special to get them.
[18:14] <Aethysius> Just downloaded them using Muon Package Manager.
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> Aethysius, I see the ones you list first in the repos, any PPAs are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d confirm whether these are ppa versions or not so you know.
[18:15] <Aethysius> Pardon?
[18:15] <FfoO> Greetings eveyone.
[18:15] <fatNERD> sup foo
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> Aethysius, Your obviously new then that is a very understandable bot of info if you are a regular user.
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> bit*
[18:16] <reisio> FfoO: salutations
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> hey...i had thin running on port 3030.... but i removed it, so im building something new on port 3030 but it still says port 3030 is in use.
[18:17] <Aethysius> I'm not new persay, some terms throw me for a loop though.
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> port 3030 is mentioned in a thin.conf file in the etc\init folder....but thats it!?
[18:17] <marawan2> blender
[18:17] <MartynKeigher> is that the file thats making 303 in use...even though there is no service runnin on it?
[18:17] <marawan2> #blender
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> Aethysius, No problem, we have repositories and a two types of list of them one is in the area I mentioned generally 3rd parties are there.
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> lists
[18:20] <Aethysius> I feel like such an idiot.
[18:20] <lex1> followed the howto to setup potfix tls on ubuntu but getting this warning warning: No server certs available. TLS won't be enabled
[18:21] <chaotix> Hey.  What tools do you guys use for creating live usb's of other distros?  I have been having some issues with UnetBootin, as well as the live usb tool that's bundled with Ubuntu.  This page lists some linux alternatives, can anyone recommend any of them?   Or any others?  Thanks in advance!  :D
[18:21] <chaotix> http://alternativeto.net/software/unetbootin/?platform=linux
[18:22] <auronandace> chaotix: probably best asked in ##linux
[18:22] <cgtdk> chaotix: have you tried dd?
[18:23] <auronandace> cgtdk: that would work for ubuntu but he is asking about other distros
[18:24] <chaotix> cgtdk, no i have not...  i will google it now
[18:24] <chaotix> auronandace, i will ask in ##linux if DD doeant work out
[18:24]  * Aethysius sighs
[18:25] <chaotix> cgtdk, does DD work well for you?  Also, you wouldnt happen to know the link, would you/?
[18:25] <ripthejacker> how can I add new mimetypes in Ubuntu. I'm using Raring 13.04
[18:26] <tones_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[18:26] <LaitEntier> Hello all, how are we doing this wonderful evening
[18:26] <ripthejacker> I tried to edit /etc/mime.types but it's not working
[18:26] <cgtdk> chaotix: I've often used dd for writing ISOs to pendrives
[18:26] <auronandace> chaotix: the ubuntu iso is designed so that it can be dd-ed to a usb stick, as for other distros you'd have to ask in their respective channels
[18:26] <cgtdk> chaotix: dd is probably already installed on your box.
[18:26] <cgtdk> auronandace: I've had success with other distros using the same method
[18:27] <cgtdk> Arch and Debian I think
[18:27] <auronandace> chaotix: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/usb
[18:27] <gnuyoga> chaotix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_to_create_Live_USB_systems
[18:27] <Aethysius> I'd like to keep using Kubuntu, but use those applications, if that's possible.
[18:27] <LaitEntier> I'll continue then, hope I am not interrupting anything but I am having major headaches: I just installed Xubuntu 12.04 on my MacBook Pro 4,1, and I am unable to get any sound
[18:27] <chaotix> Thanks, guys...
[18:27] <auronandace> chaotix: please be very careful with using dd
[18:28] <chaotix> auronandace, i think i will be looking for another solution
[18:28] <chaotix> a gui solution
[18:28] <cgtdk> chaotix: why?
[18:29] <chaotix> cgtdk, I don't think i am a novice in the cmd line, but i certainly am not a linux genie by any standards.
[18:29] <cgtdk> chaotix: It's not difficult to use dd (if the ISO works properly with it for the purpose)
[18:29] <chaotix> cgtdk, it just looks like a lot could go wrong, is all
[18:30] <cgtdk> chaotix: It can if you do it wrong, but it's easy to do it right
[18:30] <cgtdk> just triple check that you're writing to the correct device
[18:30] <juanpablo> hola necesito ayuda
[18:30] <ripthejacker> how to add new mimetype?
[18:31] <purpledude> leave #ubuntu
[18:31] <auronandace> purpledude: /part
[18:32] <LaitEntier> Can someone read this? Or do I have to auth myself or something
[18:32] <chaotix> Perhaps ot a btt, i must warn that linuxlive usb installer has broken countless flash drives in my opinion.  They boot up fine and work great.   Trying to get a grasp of IRC and XChat.
[18:32] <auronandace> purpledude: #freenode would be happy to help you
[18:32] <LaitEntier> hello
[18:33] <tones_> LaitEntier, you are here
[18:33] <purpledude> auronandace: thanks for the suggestion.
[18:33] <LaitEntier> ah sweet!
[18:33] <LaitEntier> Then I'll patiently wait until someone has some time for my sound issue
[18:34] <bazhang> !sound | LaitEntier have a read
[18:35] <Captain_Proton> OerHeks, thans for that sorry having all kinds of problems here. I was not able to find the keys in Password keyring
[18:36] <era> hi everybody
[18:36] <reisio> hi friend
[18:36] <era> : )
[18:37] <era> hmm can anybody see what im typing ?
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> era, Yep, if you see it we do.
[18:38] <reisio> era: are you typing 'hmm can anybody see what im typing ?'? If so, yes
[18:38] <era> yea xD
[18:38] <krad> Linux ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> <-- what's the code name for my distro?
[18:39] <DuPe> krad: lsb_release -a
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> krad, Chances are whatever it is is end of life.
[18:40] <DuPe> i'd guess 9.10
[18:40] <era> what is the best ubuntu version
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> era, Best is what you think is best not the group.
[18:41] <DuPe> depends on purpose. 12:04 LTS for stability/servers, 13.04 for new and shiny
[18:42] <LaitEntier> bazhang, thanks for your link. I have checked the sound preferences, everything is at it's highest. No sound comes from speakers, but very little from headphones. I also have the famous red light coming from the jack, which I know how to turn of. But after boot it's on again
[18:43] <krad> what is oneiric
[18:43] <LaitEntier> And also, my soundcard is detected
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> krad, 11.10 and eol
[18:43] <krad> what is eol
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> eol
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[18:43] <krad> context?
[18:43] <fintler> eol = end of line?
[18:44] <krad> ok
[18:44] <fintler> it's overloaded a bit :)
[18:44] <era> how can i run ubuntu 11.10 bluetooth drivers on 13.04 ?
[18:44] <krad> so i cant upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to latest directly?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> era, Why would you.
[18:44] <era> i don't want to use 13.04 bluetooth' drivers
[18:45] <ss_haze> I have 8 seconds long video
[18:45] <ss_haze> when I put it in slowmo video app it shows that I have 0 frames
[18:45] <ss_haze> just why
[18:45] <ss_haze> it just doesn't ends extracting frames from the video file
[18:45] <FloodBot1> ss_haze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> era, Basically you would have to install them and lock them in synaptic, if they worked.
[18:45] <ss_haze> soory floodbot
[18:46] <era> so how ? anybody can help ?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> krad, The eol link tells you how to do eol upgrades, you would have to go to 11.10 ten 12.04, a lot of time and could fail, I would fresh install myself.
[18:46] <era> i want to replace the whole Bluetooth drivers on 13.04 with 11.10's ....
[18:46] <levo> i want to delete some packages but i get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: " and showing some packages. what can i do?
[18:47] <auronandace> era: that simply isn't supported here
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> levo, What are the packages you want to remove?
[18:48] <levo> wilee-nilee: all the packages related to KDE desktop
[18:48] <soahccc> how would you wait in a init script for the mysql server to start up? Mysql doesn't seem to provide LSB information
[18:48] <era> levo , you must upgrade your system to a newer version
[18:48] <era> that's how simple it is
[18:48] <levo> era: i don't want to
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> levo, Look here in the playing around section. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> levo, If you have already pecked at kde you will have to use the removal lists, and any errors of packages not found can be removed from the list till you get a clean removal.
[18:50] <levo> wilee-nilee: i copy pasted the code but got those errors
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> levo, Pastebin them
[18:50] <levo> wilee-nilee: ok
[18:50] <krad> hi
[18:50] <alexa> how to exclude folders when typing cat *.* ?
[18:52] <McDeffice> Hello I'm having trouble correctly installed my graphics card. This is a Radeon HD 5870. I have ubuntu 10.4 with kernel 3.10.0-999-generic. What can I do to properly install?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> McDeffice, 10.04 desktop is end of life.
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> not supported
[18:52] <reisio> alexa: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec cat {} \;
[18:52] <McDeffice> 12.04 sorry
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> nor that kernel
[18:53] <reisio> alexa: not that I'd do that :p
[18:53] <alexa> how to exclude directories when typing cat *.* ? There's this problem when some directory has dots in name
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> McDeffice, That kernel is not supported
[18:53] <levo> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/2DDaeLTv
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> levo, I would look in synaptic broken packages and deal with the error there.
[18:54] <fintler> alexa: 'find . -type f | xargs cat' ... is that the kind of thing you're looking for?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> levo, Then run the removals
[18:55] <McDeffice> wilee-nilee -> Thanks you, so i need downgrade my kernel before all.
[18:55] <fintler> alexa: maybe... 'find . -iname "*.*" -type f | xargs cat'
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> McDeffice, Basically we only support stock kernels. You should have the original still there if you have not removed it.
[18:58] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, I think it's fairly easy to boot an old kernel by default
[18:59] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice,  google it or maybe someone here who knows can tell you (I don't know how to myself).
[18:59] <tones_> if everything you run is ok, what benefit is there to installing the newest kernel?
[18:59] <Captain_Proton>  anyone run into a problem that they can not type in the unity hud
[19:00] <bekks> tones_: There is none.
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> tones_, Stree cred is about it.
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> street
[19:00] <tones_> hehe
[19:00] <Ari-Yang> bekks, that is not entirely true
[19:00] <Ari-Yang> I'm sure there are benefits
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> tones_, You lose support though
[19:00] <bekks> Ari-Yang: So name at least one of them.
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> too lazy too, just look at the kernel's change log lol
[19:01] <wheatthin> support for newer hardware, and hardware modifications
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> ^ that too
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> tones_, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> if you're curious
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> latest stable is 3.9.7
[19:02] <NuggaBoomBoom> HELP ME TO INSTALL IA32 LIBS NUGGAZZ
[19:02] <auronandace> Ari-Yang: we don't support ppas here
[19:02] <wheatthin> NuggaBoomBoom, plz watch the racial remarks
[19:02] <LaitEntier> I don't know what to do next. I have added my model to the alsa conf, turned off the red light, increased all the sliders to max, nothing is muted (everything is at OO), my soundcard is detected. anyone got suggestions?
[19:02] <Ari-Yang> so I'm on 12.10, I know that kernel 3.11 will have the new radeon open source drivers patch; I would definitely upgrade because of power management.
[19:02] <bekks> wheatthin: which newer hardware? The hardware doesnt automagically renews itself.  I just linked in case he's interested
[19:02] <NuggaBoomBoom> racism is for criminals..and they are nuggaz
[19:02] <^^Shadow^^> Shut up
[19:03] <Ari-Yang> bekks, tbh we're kind of going off topic, if we're going to discuss/debate we should do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:03] <wheatthin> NuggaBoomBoom, this isn't a chatroom, and you can get yourself banned very quickly
[19:03] <tones_> uname -a for kernel version
[19:03] <DJones> wheatthin: To late with that comment
[19:03] <wheatthin> :)
[19:04] <Ari-Yang> tones_, uname -r too in terminal
[19:04] <McDeffice> Ari-Yang -> Ok thanks for this informations
[19:04] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome
[19:04] <^^Shadow^^> This is great
[19:04] <Ari-Yang> tones_, you can also type this to get a list of kernels on your system: ls /boot | grep vmlinuz | cut -d'-' -f2,3
[19:05] <Ari-Yang> I currently have 3.5.0-28,30,31,32, and 34. Total of 5
[19:05] <LaitEntier> so nobody?
[19:05] <^^Shadow^^> is there a room for hackers here
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> !patience > LaitEntier
[19:06] <wheatthin> nope
[19:06] <bekks> tones_: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:06] <Ari-Yang> tones_, dpkg -l | grep linux-header for headers
[19:09] <prahlad> on ubuntu, what is the best IDE for python to use? (I'm looking primarily for code-completion since I'm a python beginner..)
[19:09] <Ari-Yang> apparently, a lot of people are already trying out the radeon patches with their current kernels.... (not waiting for 3.11)
[19:09] <tones_> dpkg -l, that's the big one,thanks :)
[19:10] <prahlad> I'm on ubuntu 13.04
[19:10] <Ari-Yang> lets say I were to install the radeon open source driver from git, but I'm currently using the one that's provided by ubuntu's repos. Would the one from git replace the repos or should I purge the one I currently have, then install the git version?
[19:10] <bekks> prahlad: So just choose a text editor with code completion.
[19:10] <prahlad> bekks: I'm currently using gedit, but it doesn't have any..
[19:11] <DJones> !ide | prahlad
[19:11] <McDeffice> Ari-Yang -> for change the kernel default i think is : /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub x.x.x-x-generic
[19:12] <prahlad> ubottu: Since I have neither time nor patience to try each one of them, I'm asking you experts what you feel is the best one based on your practical experience ?
[19:12] <bekks> prahlad: It does. View -> Hilight Mode -> Scripts -> Python.
[19:12] <bekks> !bot | prahlad
[19:12] <iBelieve> prahlad, I've used geany, which is nice
[19:12] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, ummm... no I don't think that's it....
[19:12] <Ari-Yang> I looked up ways on booting old kernels by default, and I've never seen that way
[19:13] <Ari-Yang> (looked this up a while back)
[19:13] <DJones> prahlad: The best way of learning is to try for yourself, people can suggest things, but there may be other and better software, or what is suggested might not be right for you
[19:13] <mamed> hello ubuntu youtube problem.
[19:13] <Ari-Yang> I remember something about the current kernel you're using is 0, and if you want to use an old version you edit a grub file and replace 0 with -1 (your old previous kernel)
[19:13] <Ari-Yang> but I'm not 100%
[19:14] <bekks> !details | mamed
[19:14] <mamed> ubuntu 12.04 32 bit system . i am sometimes able to watch youtube videos but sometines not
[19:14] <McDeffice> Ari-Yang -> my source is http://askubuntu.com/questions/233380/how-do-i-downgrade-kernel-on-12-10
[19:14] <mamed> i though it is a flash problem but i can watch the videos in other sites . is this a youtube ip problem or something like that
[19:15] <prahlad> bekks/iBelieve: Is the code-completion in either gedit or geany smart enough to list out all functions/objects/etc.. from all the modules ?
[19:16] <prahlad> I've worked with Java/Eclipse previously and eclipse seems to do that. It actually allows me to browse thru definitions of each library method/class.
[19:17] <friday_> how export highlight from okular for file.txt?
[19:18] <lauratika> when i try to apt-get update i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5808746/
[19:18] <schultza> how do i move /var to it's own partition after-install. A user's root (/) partition is filling up because of /var.
[19:18] <schultza> Mostly /var/cache
[19:19] <iBelieve> prahlad, if you've used Eclipse, I think there is a Python plugin, and that would probably have good completion.
[19:19] <reisio> schultza: http://www.google.com/search?q=new%20partitions%20after%20the%20fact
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> mamed, Not really enough details, like the browser used for example for one.
[19:20] <vedic> Is this correct for setting up bridge network for KVM based virtual machine? Host is a remote server running 12.04 LTS with single public ip address http://pastebin.com/bHbXhAXw
[19:20] <mamed> hmm firefox and chornomium firefox is 21 . but i can watch videos in epiphany
[19:20] <reisio> #kvm
[19:20] <prahlad> iBelieve: I know about the pyDev plugin, but I'm trying to find something lightweight like geany or something. Eclipse is an overkill for what I want..
[19:20] <mamed> i think the problem is youtube ip or dns servers .
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> mamed, FF has updated to 22 in the repos
[19:21] <mamed> hmm
[19:21] <mamed> do you think will it solve my problem
[19:21] <mamed> since i made a fresh insrtallation of ubuntu 12.04 i face this problem and no solution yet
[19:21] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, did it work?
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> mamed, No idea, but being updated is a good idea, you description is missing details.
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> your*
[19:22] <mamed> wilee-nilee, wht ca you give more
[19:22] <rypervenche> prahlad: All of the cool kids use vim :)
[19:22] <mamed> can I*
[19:22] <mamed> ok i will update fire
[19:22] <bekks> prahlad: Why dont you just use eclipse again? :)
[19:22] <McDeffice> Ari-Yang -> yes, i'am on 3.8.0-26-generic, whatis the laslest (current)  version?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> mamed, What flash you have and being updated would help, an unusual problem to some extent so it is a look for the varibles and knock them off to get to an answer.
[19:23] <prahlad> rypervenche: This is 2013 and the word "vim" sounds a bit rustic.!!
[19:23] <prahlad> bekks: will give it a try then..
[19:23] <shin_doctor> hey everyone!
[19:24] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, https://www.kernel.org/
[19:24] <Ari-Yang> current latest stable is 3.9.8
[19:24] <Ari-Yang> it's in the ppa link I linked you earlier McDeffice, so you can just get the necessary .deb files from it.
[19:24] <Ari-Yang> or you can compile yourself *shrugs*
[19:26] <shin_doctor> does anyone have experience with ubuntu using the asus 1215n?
[19:26] <Ari-Yang> shin_doctor, just ask your question.
[19:26] <Ari-Yang> (afk)
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> mamed, just run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  to get fully updated.
[19:27] <mamed> i am justing updating the firefox also i have a kernel update but i dont want it now
[19:27] <mamed> cause i have to restart sytem bla
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> shin_doctor, The channel works with you stating the actual problem.
[19:27] <stasutsta> what is the largest public torrent tracker?
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> !ot | stasutsta
[19:27] <mamed> interesting
[19:28] <mamed> it opened the video immediately
[19:28] <shin_doctor> well, I'm totally new to linux in general, and I'm having some issues with display flickering when searching for files
[19:28] <mamed> i will try to switch videos
[19:28] <stasutsta> what is the biggest torrent tracker.. with ubuntu distron on it?
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> mamed, If you are not going to be updated your just wasting our time here.
[19:28] <mamed> wilee-nilee, so it was a firefox problem
[19:28] <mamed> thank you so much
[19:29] <mamed> also i realised something when firefox has a new version the old version starts to consume so much memory
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> stasutsta, That is off topic go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:30] <mamed> hehe no content again
[19:31]  * mamed still thinks youtube problem is about ubuntu 12.04
[19:32] <shin_doctor> what youtube problem?
[19:34] <rawrmonster> This has nothing to do with ubuntu today but the close future. I was trying to find out why ubuntu is switching to mir and what the advantages are but all i can seem to find on line is that mir is a collection of libs that has no server by default, and that the desktop enviroment would host the mir server, or something like that.
[19:34] <mamed> i am glad and looking forward see mir
[19:35] <mamed> also it would be great if ubuntu would develop its own Desktop enviroment in Qt
[19:35] <LaitEntier> In case anyone is interested, I have documented my sound problem here http://askubuntu.com/questions/314043/how-to-get-sound-on-macbook-pro-4-1 with all the results from commands and the soundtroubleshooting page
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> rawrmonster, Not within channel support, that info is on the web though to some extent.
[19:35] <mamed> yes i have sound problem also pid f
[19:35] <gandaro> is there a tool to show one text file page at a time? (pages separated by ^L, like ietf RFCs are)
[19:35] <mamed> icannot use my high definition
[19:36] <rawrmonster> wilee-nilee: i would not have asked here if i did not look it up. I have gone through 18 pages of google and still have not found my answer
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> rawrmonster, Right, still not a part of support is all. ;)
[19:36] <pzn> I have problems in ubuntu install. "failed to create ext4 filesystem". same problem on 5 brand new computers. tried ubuntu desktop 12.10 64bit and 13.04 64bit. motherboard is gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H. tried at bios to configure SATA as IDE and as AHCI. nothing solved. any hints?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> pzn, You familiar with the partition amount limitations ?
[19:37] <rawrmonster> wilee-nilee: is there a mir channel? or does ubuntu have an off topic channel?
[19:38] <Ari-Yang> there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> rawrmonster, #ubuntu-offtopic is there, not sure about a mir channel.
[19:38] <pzn> wilee-nilee, just a single 250GB HD. just 2 partitions. 50GB ext4 and 2GB swap.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> pzn, If you are on it can you run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the text.
[19:39] <pzn> wilee-nilee, the problem is not about creating the partition. the problem is when ubuntu install is doing "mkfs ext4"
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> pzn, Ah, I just use gparted so can't really help there.
[19:40] <pzn> wilee-nilee, for some weird reason, both ubuntu versions fail at the same install part. when they are creating the ext4 filesystem
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> pzn, Post your code though someone may see an error
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> post the whole process really in a pastenbin
[19:41] <McDeffice> Ari-Yang -> i from here 3.9.0 (not 3.9.8) : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/i think is the official kernel for my raring
[19:43] <bipul> i have 3 IP's <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> ,  I want my packet of IP-<IP_ADDRESS> should reach to the IP-<IP_ADDRESS> via IP-<IP_ADDRESS> is it possible from add route command?.
[19:44] <ikonia> bipul: what ?
[19:44] <pzn> wilee-nilee, put ubuntu USB stick (12.10 or 13.04), go to install process clicking next. on hard drives select the first option (erase and install ubuntu without prompting user for partitions or sizes). then after 1~2 minutes it fails with message "the ext4 file system creation in partition #1 (sda) failed"
[19:44] <ikonia> bipul: can you try to explain that again please,
[19:44] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, I don't know what Raring's current kernel is.... and I don't think it's in that ppa
[19:44] <HisaoNakai> ubottu - ping.
[19:44] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[19:44] <bipul> ikonia, i am runing 3 ubuntu with three different IP's on vboxnet0
[19:45] <ikonia> bipul: ok so 3 seperate VM's all with different IP adresses ?
[19:45] <bipul> And the  3 IP's <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> ,  I want my packet of IP-<IP_ADDRESS> should reach to the IP-<IP_ADDRESS> via IP-<IP_ADDRESS> is it possible from add route command?.
[19:45] <Ari-Yang> !info linux-image
[19:45] <ikonia> bipul: you need to use a router (such as ip tables) not add a route
[19:45] <bipul> Something like that mine packet should go from A to C  via B.
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> pzn, Are these computers with W8?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> or a uefi setup?
[19:46] <bipul> ikonia, are you sure add route will not work.
[19:46] <ikonia> bipul: how many virtual machines do you have ?
[19:46] <pzn> wilee-nilee, brand new computers, brand new HDs. they didn't came with W8
[19:46] <ikonia> as I understand it, 3
[19:46] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, I'm not 100%, but maybe current latest Raring kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>.43 ?
[19:46] <Ari-Yang> that's what the bot says
[19:46] <ikonia> that is the current stable kernel, yes
[19:46] <bipul> 2 virtual machine and 1 host using Host-only vboxnet0
[19:46] <pzn> wilee-nilee, what is a UEFI setup? sorry for being newbie
[19:47] <Ari-Yang> McDeffice, there you have it, <IP_ADDRESS>.43 is the latest for Raring
[19:47] <lasers> !UFO | pz
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> pzn, Cool, best support fro uefi is at the UF with this poster, here is a link to a help on this, start a thread if needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:47] <ikonia> bipul: ok, so the host has one IP on vboxnet0 and then you have 2 virtual machines with their virtual nic's assigned to vboxnet0 too
[19:47] <ikonia> bipul: is that correct ?
[19:47] <McDeffice> Ok thanks Ari-Yang and ikonia
[19:47] <bipul> ikonia, yes
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > pzn here is a wiki as well.
[19:47] <ikonia> bipul: so where to you want traffic to go to/from