[06:44] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: your system seems rather idle or super locked up with so many HLT exits
[06:44] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: anyway if that stat isn't enough and none of the tools is (I don't know) then you can still tap on all these on your own
[06:44] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: check http://www-05.ibm.com/de/events/linux-on-system-z/downloads/Tools-MK2-V7-Web.pdf page 163 ff
[06:44] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: you can just tap on the kvm tracpoints if you like and likely get the extra info on the msr write
[06:45] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: locks and too much idle together with much exits I have seen often on oversized guests
[06:46] <cpaelzer> ThiagoCMC: so depending on your case just reduce the amount of vcpus for a quick test
[07:29] <breezy_> hey guys, i installed ubuntu server, and i was using it.... but everytime i load up i get this one liner on a black screen "dev/sda1: clean 65938/44744704 files, 325515/178977536 blocks"
[07:30] <breezy_> last time i had the same black screen and it started working after maybe 10 minutes.... does it usually take 10minutes in order for me to get a command prompt?
[07:30] <breezy_> i tried !sysreq
[07:30] <breezy_> and alt+printscreen REISUB
[07:30] <breezy_> but i dont know if that is the reason it started last time or not... but right now i just have one line and its not starting...
[07:32] <breezy_> anyone here?
[08:27] <cpaelzer> breezy_: could that be a file system check?
[08:27] <cpaelzer> nacc: current usd repo is not supposed to work right?
[08:27] <breezy_> i have no idea what it is
[08:27] <breezy_> im completely new to ubuntu serer
[08:27] <breezy_> i was using it earlier today (and i got the same error earlier) i just have no idea how i bypassed it before
[08:28] <cpaelzer> breezy_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/383114/my-ubuntu-is-running-fsck-on-every-bootup
[08:28] <cpaelzer> breezy_: and http://askubuntu.com/questions/761653/startup-problem-in-16-04-lts
[08:29] <breezy_> cpaelzer: i can't run ANY code
[08:29] <breezy_> the screen is simply black
[08:29] <breezy_> with that one line
[08:29] <cpaelzer> breezy_: while it is doing the fs check
[08:29] <cpaelzer> breezy_: that is blocking on boot to ensure fs integrity is ok
[08:30] <breezy_> how long should the fs check take
[08:30] <breezy_> i waited 15mins
[08:30] <cpaelzer> breezy_: the solution is to find why it is doing that on every boot on your system
[08:30] <breezy_> but how
[08:30] <cpaelzer> breezy_: depends on the amount and size and speed of the disk
[08:30] <breezy_> if i cant run any code
[08:30] <breezy_> im using a 750gb ssd
[08:30] <cpaelzer> breezy_: for the how I'd start on the two links I sent
[08:30] <breezy_> cpaelzer: im new to ubuntu server i dont rly understand any of it
[08:30] <cpaelzer> breezy_: if it is like "never" stopping - lets say an hour to be on the safe side you might run a CD/USB into recovery mode
[08:31] <breezy_> i bought a udemy tutorial and was trying to follow through
[08:31] <cpaelzer> breezy_: to make it clear this is not the default behaviour - something lets your system assume it could be broken and it should check its filesystems
[08:31] <breezy_> last time i got into it but it shouldnt take more than 15mins for me to get into the command line?
[08:31] <breezy_> are u suggesting next time i wait longer
[08:31] <cpaelzer> breezy_: wait longer and then debug why it is doing every boot following the links I sent
[08:31] <breezy_> ok
[08:32] <cpaelzer> breezy_: if it never stops fall back to the recovery consoles you get out of the CD/USB media
[08:32] <cpaelzer> and then analyze
[08:33] <breezy_> fwiw, i dont have it on a separate partition i have it all on the hard drive wiped
[08:33] <breezy_> its weird i shouldnt have this bug after a clean install though right
[08:33] <breezy_> is it something to do with system compatibility?
[08:33] <cpaelzer> breezy_: ack
[08:33] <breezy_> (using a laptop)
[08:34] <breezy_> cpaelzer i wiped all the partitions clean so there's no other OS on the harddrive
[08:34] <cpaelzer> breezy_: depends on the case, I'd assume more of a misconfiguration or an aborted (or silentyl failing) install
[08:34] <breezy_> what about software install
[08:34] <breezy_> could that be the problem
[08:34] <cpaelzer> breezy_: less likely imho
[08:35] <breezy_> ok
[08:35] <cpaelzer> breezy_: more config in fstab/disk drivers/partitioning
[08:35] <cpaelzer> breezy_: if you wipe it anyway just say yes to all the installer asks
[08:35] <cpaelzer> breezy_: do not try to force it on one partition or so
[08:35] <cpaelzer> breezy_: the default (according to its definition) is the most tested and thereby most stable
[08:35] <cpaelzer> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23455067/
[08:36] <breezy_> so just use all defaults basically?
[08:36] <breezy_> ok makes sense
[08:36] <cpaelzer> breezy_: yes
[08:36] <breezy_> i'll prob try another install
[08:36] <breezy_> thx cp
[08:38] <cpaelzer> nacc: since the docu on the wiki is on the new one I thought to fetch new from git
[08:38] <cpaelzer> nacc: for now I just assumed what is pushed is not intended to be complete
[08:38] <cpaelzer> nacc: let me know if that is not true and I'll start help hacking fixes
[08:39] <cpaelzer> nacc: but it seems more like a push of a 3/4 complete redesidn to the single usd tool
[08:39] <cpaelzer> nacc: so I wait for your reply
[11:22] <rbasak> nacc: using the latest importer seems to want it to start squid3 from the beginning again. Going back to b66306b works.
[11:28] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I also had some issues with the latest one reported to nacc this morning
[12:24] <SipriusPT_> hello guys, i am getting this error per mail, when i am using getmail to reroute for postfix
[12:25] <SipriusPT_> Delivery error (command sendmail 27293 error (127, exec of command sendmail failed (refuse to invoke external commands as root or GID 0 by default)))
[12:25] <SipriusPT_> i am using sendmail to send locally to postfix
[12:25] <SipriusPT_> here is the getmailrc
[12:26] <SipriusPT_> http://pastebin.com/nwL6mwvA
[12:26] <SipriusPT_> anyone knows how to solve this?
[12:26] <patdk-lap> not without logs, no
[12:27] <SipriusPT_> that is the error that i am getting at getmail log
[12:27] <patdk-lap> but a guess is
[12:27] <patdk-lap> your running as root
[12:27] <SipriusPT_> yes
[12:27] <patdk-lap> why?
[12:29] <SipriusPT_> because i have email passwords in getmail config
[12:29] <patdk-lap> what does that have to do with anything?
[12:30] <patdk-lap> you should not run programs as root
[12:31] <patdk-lap> "refuse to invoke external commands as root"
[12:32] <SipriusPT_> it could be for some kind of protection?!
[12:57] <coreycb> jamespage, beisner, hello, python-glance-store and mistral are ready to promote from newton-staging->newton-proposed
[12:59] <jamespage> coreycb, done
[12:59] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[13:06] <yakim> Hello! Somebody know soft for centralized management luks crypto containers?
[13:22] <coreycb> jamespage, nova neutron and neutron-lbaas are ready to promote to mitaka-updates
[13:36] <zul> coreycb<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:37] <coreycb> zul, you're all over that right ? :)
[13:37] <zul> coreycb: yeah
[13:37] <coreycb> zul, thanks
[13:37]  * zul enters ninja mode
[15:21] <danpawlik> Hello, Is it possible to move all of  Openstack watcher service packages from zesty repo to xenial repo?
[15:36] <falco> hello everybody!! Are there some postfix admin?
[15:40] <nacc> rbasak: cpaelzer: will check those out now
[15:43] <nacc> cpaelzer: i think i just pushed the fix now
[15:44] <nacc> cpaelzer: sorry, you might have missed the messages last night -- the rewrite is 'complete', but it was a huge set of changes, so please do send me patches or point out issues here
[15:47] <nacc> rbasak: and i see what is wrong with the import, will fix shortly
[16:02] <cpaelzer> nacc: ok so I'll refetch next time and see if all is ok then
[16:03] <cpaelzer> nacc: I'm done with the merge (except review) that caused this and not picking another this evening
[16:05] <nacc> cpaelzer: sure, sorry about htat
[16:10] <rbasak> cpaelzer: reflog FTW. I just wound back this morning :-)
[16:11] <Braven> Does anyone know how to exit a ipmitool session
[16:12] <rharper> control-d ?
[16:12] <rharper> or if like telnet control-]
[16:12] <rharper> been a while
[16:13] <quantums> Braven: try ~.
[16:13] <rharper> some of them also do it like ssh ; enter ~.
[16:13] <Braven> just hold that down
[16:15] <Braven> I am having a hard time getting a console log.. I can see everything until the server boot to the maas commissioning image
[16:17] <RoyK> a netconsole can help
[16:25] <Braven> Royk: Thanks I will look at that
[16:34] <nacc> rbasak: should be fixed now
[16:34] <nacc> rbasak: i apologize, just a nuance of how pygit2 handles remotes
[16:35] <rbasak> np!
[16:43] <caribou> nacc: rbasak: do we still need to request git imports for merges by email or it is now done automagically ?
[16:44] <rbasak> caribou: still need to request by email, sorry.
[16:45] <caribou> rbasak: no need to be sorry, was just checking
[16:48] <nacc> caribou: yeah, we're very close to having it 'just work', but still manual for now
[17:00] <jamespage> coreycb, release those mitaka updates (plus a few others for sec stuff)
[17:00] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[17:00] <jamespage> coreycb, and sweep staging -> proposed once that was done
[17:01] <jamespage> qemu, neutron python-os-brick
[17:03] <zul> coreycb: hey just looking through the cloud archvie oslo.config needs python-rfc8439 so im waiting for the backport-pacakge job to run
[17:03] <coreycb> zul, ok
[19:38] <bananapie> I have a new software raid array ( mirror 1 ). resync=DELAYED. Because it hasn't resynced. Given that I just wrote a brand new filesystem, is there any way to make it sync fasteR?
[19:44] <station> ld i use virtual machine on my server to have nextclou, i'm new to server, selfhosting
[20:03] <station> the vm is only ment for testing or can it alsow be deployt
[20:06] <sarnold> station: most of the modern internet runs entirely on VMs -- see AWS, GCE, etc. :)
[20:09] <station> so if i share netwark to the vm dose it alsow have to deal with the firewall of the hostOS
[20:26] <ddellav> coreycb: i pulled down pbr and added it to my ppa but I'm still getting the same version suffix error with keystone. Any ideas?
[20:57] <coreycb> ddellav, from monday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23457935/
[20:58] <ddellav> coreycb yes, as i just said i pulled as you suggested but it still isn't working
[20:58] <ddellav> did it work for you?
[20:58] <coreycb> ddellav, you pulled keystone?
[20:59] <ddellav> coreycb oh you meant pull down keystone, no i didn't pull it i had changes. I will do that
[21:41] <ddellav> coreycb excellent, i was able to update it finally. Please review and push lp:~ddellav/ubuntu/+source/keystone
[21:56] <bananapie> top is showing a slow increase of memory ( every 30 minutes, another gigabyte is taken ). ps aux --sort --rss shows that none of my processes are changing significantly in their memory consumption.  slabtop says the kernel is using 99.2% of it's 578 mb of ram. So I have at least two gigabytes of memory that is unaccounted for
[21:57] <bananapie> how do I find who is using the memory?
[21:57] <tarpman> bananapie: cache? buffers? a tmpfs?
[21:59] <bananapie> I unmounted all the tmpfs other than /run, which says 1.1M out of 1.2G
[21:59] <bananapie> 26644 buffers
[21:59] <bananapie> 12292428 total,  6530716 used,  5761712 free \n  5410544 cached Mem
[22:00] <bananapie> ok
[22:00] <bananapie> looks like it's the cached Mem
[22:00] <bananapie> I have had 9 OOM conditions on this machine today, which has caused data loss in MySQL server. So I thought it was happening again
[22:00] <bananapie> thanks :d
[22:02] <bananapie> I ran free && sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && free
[22:02] <bananapie> and it cleared up 5 gigs
[22:02] <tarpman> cached memory isn't a bad thing - it will be dropped instantly if anything actually needs it
[22:03] <tarpman> you want to look at the second line in free - the -/+ buffers/cache line
[22:07] <bananapie> I know it's a good thing. I just didn't realize it counted in used memory
[22:07] <tarpman> http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ :)
[22:13] <coreycb> ddellav, does that fix the 2 test failures?
[22:24] <ddellav> coreycb i saw no test failures. Let me look again
[22:36] <ddellav> coreycb builds without issue in zesty. Cannot build in xenial, missing coverage and pyldap deps
[22:37] <ddellav> and i did use the sbuild-ocata helper
[22:50] <bananapi> is there a way to build a new linux software array that doesn't require 'resync' ?


[01:31] <bkerensa> kees: yeah the guy said he would hook anyone up who doesnt work for a big company but that hacks on open source :)
[04:58] <kees> bkerensa: very very cool!
[08:44] <bkero> bkerensa: huh?
[08:44] <bkero> rum is it?
[20:03] <bkerensa> wow
[20:03] <bkerensa> =s my liquor is pickled by peruvian booze
[20:03] <bkerensa> liver*
[20:04] <bkerensa> bkero: Last Night - Pisco > Lots of Domestic Beer -> Cuban Liquor -> then I ended up far out in East Oakland
[20:05] <bkero> lol


[01:22] <kristian-aalborg> I can't get wifi running.... again
[01:30] <The_Paco> yo, anyone have issue with adobe flash for FF4 displaying upside down webcam images? Running 10.04x64 on an asus g50v laptop. Cheese works great with the camera. Tried to update libv4l-0, no dice
[03:22] <Motoservo> If I want to write a cron job that will open an ssh connection to a server and then run svn revert, how would that look? I've tried a few things but nothing is working,
[03:34] <pleia2> depending on the trouble you're having, I'd put all the login and svn stuff into a script and then just execute that script from cron
[03:36] <pleia2> what exactly is "not working"? the job not executing from cron at all? the revert command not being successful? ssh not successful?
[03:37] <Motoservo> well, I tried (guessed) putting the password with the user name like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but it's still prompting a password. Thats the first thing failing.
[03:38] <pleia2> ok, you probably don't want to be using password based logins for something like this :)
[03:38] <pleia2> you'll want to set up ssh keys
[03:38] <Motoservo> I realize that's not secure but it's not that important in this context.
[03:38] <Motoservo> this account is sort of a sandbox.
[03:38] <Motoservo> k
[03:38] <pleia2> if you're not worried about security you should still use keys, but you can use passwordless keys
[03:39] <Motoservo> I'll have to look that up.
[03:39] <pleia2> so on the client (where the cron job is) you create a key pair with: ssh-keygen
[03:39] <pleia2> when it prompts for a password, just hit enter, and that will output an .ssh/id_rsa and .ssh/id_rsa.pub file
[03:40] <pleia2> take the contents of .ssh/id_rsa.pub and on the REMOTE server, put the contents in a ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file
[03:40] <Motoservo> I'm setting this server up for client. This is for a his developers and I'm trying to keep his effort to a minimum.
[03:40] <Motoservo> I'll try that, thanks!
[03:41] <pleia2> unfortunately there really is no good automated way to send an actual password over ssh
[03:41] <pleia2> you could have a script put it in, but storing an ssh password in a script is so so so bad when you can easily do this with ssh keys
[03:43] <Motoservo> The keys will work.
[03:43] <pleia2> :)
[03:44] <pleia2> if you are concerned about security in the future you should look into ssh-agent
[09:52] <MK`> Hey, can someone help me installing Ubuntu please? I am getting an error
[09:57] <xardas008> can you post the error?
[09:57] <xardas008> and please try to describe how the error occured
[09:57] <MK`> I selected to manually partition because I want it to use a different disk. I formatted the disk to be an ext4 partition and this was the error: "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from partitioning menu."
[09:57] <MK`> Is it because I am missing the swap partition? How big do I make the swap if so?
[09:58] <xardas008> did you define the mountpoint for / ?
[09:58] <MK`> No; how do I do that?
[09:58] <MK`> Oh, I had left that blank
[09:58] <xardas008> right click on the partition and then in the last drop down box at the bottom of the dialog (Mountpoint)
[09:59] <xardas008> swap depends on your ram
[09:59] <MK`> Do I just make it one ext4 parititon and set the mount point to /?
[09:59] <MK`> or also make the swap at the end
[09:59] <xardas008> depends on your need
[09:59] <MK`> It's an older system; 1.5GB RAM, a 15GB hdd
[09:59] <xardas008> a swap is needed, ok 3gb swap should be there
[09:59] <MK`> ok
[10:00] <xardas008> at the beginning or end of the hard drive
[10:00] <MK`> Does it matter where?
[10:00] <xardas008> no
[10:01] <xardas008> but you are more flexible
[10:01] <xardas008> if you define a separate home partition you can resize later if  more space is needed, but if swap is between both / and /home you can't resize
[10:02] <MK`> Ok, where do you suggest? And do I specify a mount point for the swap?
[10:03] <xardas008> swap doesn't need a mount point
[10:03] <xardas008> place it at the end
[10:03] <MK`> ok
[10:04] <MK`> so [/] [/home] [swap]?
[10:05] <xardas008> the / and swap will be enough because you only have 15 gb
[10:05] <MK`> I have another hard drive for media (that is currently holding windows)
[10:06] <xardas008> if you want to have windows on that you can let it as it is
[10:06] <xardas008> you don't need to specify a mount point, only if it should be mounted on boot you need a mount point
[10:07] <MK`> I just got many orders of magnitude more confused X)
[10:09] <MK`> There's 2 disks, an 80GB drive where windows is installed, and this 15GB where I want to put Ubuntu. Will I need to manually specify which disk to boot to get to one of them or will I be able to have grub let me choose even if they are on different disks?
[10:10] <xardas008> Ubuntu will have an entry for both in grub so you can choose on boot time which os to load
[10:10] <xardas008> you should make sure to install the grub on the correct partition (would be best to install it on the hard drive where ubuntu will be installed)
[10:11] <xardas008> the entry is at the bottom of the partition manager screen
[10:11] <MK`> The 15GB HD is a slave, should I install grub on the master hdd instead where windows is? Or...hm
[10:12] <xardas008> if you specify grub on the slave the mbr of the windows hard drive won't be affected, which would be better in the case something goes wrong with ubuntu (maybe deleting it later f.e.)
[10:12] <MK`> Alright
[10:13] <xardas008> if you can specify the order of the hard drives in bios it will work
[10:13] <MK`> Ah good
[10:13] <xardas008> and if it doesn't work you can try again and windows won't be affected
[10:14] <xardas008> then you choose the other hard drive
[10:17] <MK`> alright
[10:23] <MK`> let's hope I did this correctly :P
[10:50] <MK`> Success!
[10:50] <xardas008> great
[10:51] <MK`> apparently that old noise my Windows ME machine made when working was the HD, so now whenever I boot Ubuntu I'll be having terrible flashbacks
[10:51] <xardas008> only during boot?
[10:51] <MK`> Whenever it's reading something it seems
[10:52] <MK`> It's a very old hard drive heh
[10:52] <xardas008> during boot it's normal (i have some strange outputs too), but when bootet everything is normal
[10:54] <MK`> I think this HDD was from 2001
[10:56] <xardas008> i had a 20gb hard drive in my first personal computer in 1996 xD
[10:56] <UndiFineD> 20 gb ? are you sure ?
[10:56] <xardas008> yeah
[10:57] <UndiFineD> in 1996 I was happy to buy 1 GB
[10:57] <xardas008> it was quite big for that time
[10:58] <UndiFineD> my system I bought in 1995 had a 400 MB drive
[11:00] <MK`> the noise is whenever I do anything
[11:00] <MK`> open the software center, make a new account... etc.
[11:01] <xardas008> if there only is a noise this could be normal because the hardware is a little bit older
[11:01] <MK`> yeah
[11:03] <MK`> It's like this noise except a lot more hollow sounding and a lower frequency: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9obzgmWrlM
[11:04] <MK`> but otherwise the same
[11:09] <MK`> disk has 33 bad sectors
[11:09] <xardas008> that's not good
[11:09] <MK`> yeah, hm
[11:11] <MK`> Also, I looked at the partitions, and it has the Extended partition (which contains the same-sized ext4 partition) and the Swap partition
[11:11] <MK`> but on my other installation of linux, the swap is under the extended partition along with ext4
[11:11] <MK`> did I do it wrong?
[11:12] <xardas008> no i don't think so
[11:32] <MK`> Damn
[11:32] <MK`> I forgot the ram is 1.5 GiB, not 1.5 GB. So I have 2.8 GiB swap :P should I make it bigger?
[11:34] <xardas008> no that's normal
[11:35] <MK`> even if it's not 2x as large as the ram?
[11:36] <xardas008> normally not all of you swap will be used
[11:36] <xardas008> so it doesn't matter, this are only reference data
[11:36] <MK`> for the record this PC is used for stuff like Libreoffice and some music stuff
[11:36] <MK`> not even video
[11:38] <xardas008> my notebook has 4gb ram, my swap is also 4 gb but only a little of it is used while working with such programs you mentioned
[11:38] <xardas008> but can be that you need more of that because the hardware is old
[11:38] <xardas008> only a can be not a must be
[11:38] <MK`> the rest of the computer is about 5 years younger than the HD
[11:39] <xardas008> you can watch the disk usage using the System Monitor
[11:40] <xardas008> you find this program in the Administration menu
[11:40] <MK`> yeah; I am running update manager and it says ram is at 20%, swap at 0
[11:41] <xardas008> that's why i like linux more than windows, on windows ram will always be near 100%
[11:41] <MK`> heh
[11:41] <MK`> as I install all these updates CPU is consistently at about 80%
[11:41] <xardas008> single core?
[11:42] <MK`> yeah
[11:44] <xardas008> it's normal my notebook has the same phänomen when installing updates
[11:44] <MK`> 2.93 GHz intel celeron D
[11:44] <MK`> it hit 100% for a while before it finished
[11:45] <xardas008> my cpu is always between 20-50%
[11:45] <xardas008> when it is idle
[12:31] <MK`> I need to just build a new PC out of this old one... new tower and everything
[13:46] <serfus> is it possible to use 11.04 without unity? to stay with just the plain old gnome?
[13:59] <charlie-tca> yes, just chooses classic-gnome session at login
[14:53] <shahan> hi all
[15:32] <holstein> serfus: theres a classic login
[15:32] <holstein> for now at least
[15:32] <holstein> at the login screen, you can select it
[15:32] <serfus> it has many problems
[15:33] <holstein> it?
[15:33] <holstein> unity?
[15:36] <holstein> well, anyways
[15:36] <holstein> they have a couple weeks to sort it out
[15:38] <serfus> the use of gnome on 11.4
[15:38] <holstein> hmmm
[15:38] <holstein> seemed like gnome to me
[15:38] <serfus> i have here only 10.10 but it is someone who i am trying to help out
[19:29] <OcXcPunk> I am trying to burn an iso. Brasero has this creating checksum bug that goes on for 8 hours. The cd dvd creator didn't do anything when I added the file and clicked write to disk. I installed poweriso but I don't know how to bring it up. I don't know how to do it on acetoneiso.
[19:30] <bdfhjk> How many files are You trying to burn?
[19:30] <OcXcPunk> just one
[19:30] <bdfhjk> and Brasero creating checksum 8 hours?
[19:31] <bdfhjk> hm...
[19:31] <OcXcPunk> ya I did it at 12 last night and I woke up at 10 and it was still going
[19:32] <bdfhjk> if You trying to burn is on CD, maybe Your CD-ROM is damaged?
[19:32] <bdfhjk> 'burning function
[19:32] <OcXcPunk> but I burned a game iso a couple days ago
[19:34] <OcXcPunk> I did it though brasero but it didnt do the checksum thing for that long it just burned it
[21:13] <kristian-aalborg> here's my fstab - any comments?
[21:13] <kristian-aalborg> pretty basic stuff
[21:55] <UndiFineD> kristian-aalborg, hat fstab ?
[21:55] <UndiFineD> what
[21:56] <kristian-aalborg> lol, forgot to paste
[21:56] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/RF04RA2T
[21:58] <UndiFineD>  /media/mediepartition <-- is that correct ?
[21:58] <UndiFineD> mediE
[21:58] <kristian-aalborg> that is my native tongue, you bastard :P
[21:59] <UndiFineD> here is mine
[21:59] <UndiFineD> http://pastebin.com/NjkhKG0n
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> yeah, I usually keep everything in english but that one slipped and I couldn't bother to fix when it is of no actual importance
[22:01] <kristian-aalborg> looks pretty much like mine


[08:27] <tsdgeos> Mirv: at Berlin you said you had a ppa following "stable", you're aware that "stable" doesn't exist anymore?
[08:32] <Mirv> tsdgeos: it's not automatically following, but yes I noticed they're now merging to 5.3
[08:32] <Mirv> tsdgeos: the last build is from 20140605
[08:32] <tsdgeos> ok
[08:33] <Mirv> tsdgeos: any change of looking at the 5.3 crash? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1328485 Pat assigned to Saviq though but it can be reassigned if it's more your turf
[08:38] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, could you try and have a look at ↑?
[08:38] <Saviq> tsdgeos, from the symbols I saw, it'd be an upstream bug around HTTP requests
[08:39] <tsdgeos> brrrr
[08:39]  * tsdgeos checks
[09:17] <Cimi> Saviq, new infographics are broken here
[09:17] <Cimi> Saviq, I am testing...
[09:17] <Cimi> don't review yet
[09:17] <Cimi> something got broken between the split and unsplit merges
[09:19] <mhr3> Saviq, will you be able to land the id hack today?
[09:20] <Saviq> mhr3, I think so, yes
[09:22] <tsdgeos> Saviq: Mirv: so that crash should just happen by scrolling up/down in the apps scope?
[09:24] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I believe some "normal" usage is causing it
[09:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, but Mirv knows more
[09:25] <tsdgeos> i can't get it to crash :/
[09:27] <Mirv> tsdgeos: Saviq: yes, but sometimes it seems pretty hard so I tend to also open several apps, continuing rapid swiping of apps scope up/down etc.
[09:28] <tsdgeos> ok, let me open a few apps
[09:28] <tsdgeos> see if that helps
[09:28] <Mirv> tsdgeos: maybe expand the Available and then swipe up/down (as that probably generates http requests or so)
[09:28] <tsdgeos> yeah i was doing that a lot
[09:28] <Mirv> I actually just got a hang (?) that way, unity8 is consuming 100% CPU
[09:29] <tsdgeos> :/
[09:51] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[09:51] <tsdgeos> i just got it to crash
[09:52] <tsdgeos> but with a different total bt than Mirv's
[09:52] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652231/
[09:52] <tsdgeos> uncool bt
[09:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ouch
[09:53] <Mirv> tsdgeos: http://people.canonical.com/~tjyrinki/qt53/unity8hang.mkv this was right after reboot (pure hang in this case, a crash earlier)
[10:16] <davmor2> Mirv: is apport running at 99+ % in the background
[10:17] <davmor2> Mirv: as in after reboot it started to report the earlier crash because it hadn't done so previously?
[10:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, you were supposed to fix the one found already, *not* find two new ones ;P
[10:19] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i think it may still be just on
[10:19] <tsdgeos> e
[10:19] <tsdgeos> memory gets corrupted
[10:19] <tsdgeos> crashes in a random place
[10:19] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup
[10:21] <Saviq> biab
[10:34] <Mirv> davmor2: no, the only case I saw apport was when it was reporting the currently happened crash (I tend to let it finish)
[11:21] <Cimi> Saviq, what was installing /usr/share/unity8/Greeter/graphics/infographic_circle_back.png ?
[11:22] <Saviq> Cimi, > dpkg -S /usr/share/unity8/Greeter/graphics/infographic_circle_back.png
[11:22] <Saviq> unity8: /usr/share/unity8/Greeter/graphics/infographic_circle_back.png
[11:22] <Cimi> hah I don't have it
[11:23] <Cimi> why... weird :D
[11:26] <Cimi> Saviq, what does debian/control needs?
[11:26] <Cimi> and what should go in unity-api?
[11:26] <Cimi> https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/infographics-new-lightdm/+merge/222953/comments/534954
[11:26] <Saviq> Cimi, in any case, that file should be gone now, the infographics svg needs to include that circle
[11:27] <Saviq> Cimi, isn't there a new package with the qml bindings that your MP depends on?
[11:27] <Cimi> mmm no
[11:27] <Cimi> or yes
[11:27] <Cimi> well yeah it does indeed
[11:27] <Cimi> unity8
[11:28] <Saviq> Cimi, qtdeclarative5-infographics0.1
[11:28] <Saviq> Cimi, as per https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libusermetrics/file-based-infographics/+merge/214020
[11:28] <Cimi> Saviq, adding
[11:30] <Saviq> Cimi, make sure to add the dep in the correct place (unity8 vs. unity8-common, depending on where you put the QML files in)
[11:31] <Cimi> Saviq, this dep is runtime for unity8
[11:31] <Cimi> Saviq, infographics are in qml/Greeter
[11:31] <Saviq> Cimi, sure, but which package do the QML files that "cause" that runtime dep get installed in? unity8 or unity8-common?
[11:32] <Saviq> Cimi, hint: debian/*.instsall
[11:32] <Saviq> -s
[11:34] <Cimi> Saviq, both
[11:34] <Cimi> Saviq, Infographics in in qml/Greeter
[11:35] <Cimi> Saviq, but uses CrossFadeInfographics that is in qml/Components
[11:35] <Cimi> (will work in getting the mod in the sdk, but will come later I believe...)
[11:35] <Saviq> Cimi, and both import the module?
[11:38] <Cimi> nope
[11:38] <Cimi> ok
[11:38] <Cimi> just unity8 then
[12:03] <Cimi> Saviq, ok updated and using png instead svg
[12:03] <Saviq> Cimi, png/svg of what?
[12:03] <Cimi> Saviq, mocks
[12:03] <Saviq> Cimi, kk
[12:03] <Cimi> Saviq, diff easier to read
[12:03] <Saviq> Cimi, indeed
[12:08] <mzanetti> Saviq: do you know what's the ETA for the split greeter revert?
[12:08] <Saviq> mzanetti, already in trunk
[12:08] <mzanetti> oh..
[12:09] <mzanetti> dandrader: ping
[12:09] <dandrader> mzanetti, pong
[12:10] <mzanetti> dandrader: hey. do you think you could update the qtcomp unity8 to the latest unity8 trunk?
[12:13] <dandrader> mzanetti, sure
[12:13] <mzanetti> cool
[13:09]  * kgunn wonders if mterry took his swap day today
[13:16] <Saviq> kgunn, last mention of him on the channel was 2200 UTC
[13:17] <Saviq> kgunn, but you should be able to find out in hr c c, assuming he reported it there
[13:17] <kgunn> good point
[13:21] <Saviq> Cimi, QtCS notes are on warthogs for you
[13:21] <Cimi> Saviq, thx
[13:36] <mhr3> Saviq, people are getting nervous about departments, mind if i build u8+all the rest in a silo?
[13:36] <Saviq> mhr3, ETA on your part?
[13:37] <Saviq> mhr3, in any case, I'm landing u8 real soon, probably best to wait for that
[13:39] <Saviq> @unity: anyone running a ~clear recent image
[13:39] <tsdgeos> nope, lots' of 5.3 stuff in here
[13:39] <Saviq> do you have all app icons in Installed?
[13:39] <Saviq> ↑ to anyone that *does*
[13:40] <mhr3> Saviq, will still take a while, i'd want it as a non-blocking silo
[13:41] <mhr3> Saviq, we need to land all the api breaks in there, so will have to also update and rebuild all the scopes etc
[13:42] <Saviq> mhr3, I'm fine with that, only worry I'd have is we'd be blocking silo, but if you can convince sil2100, be my guest
[13:44] <mhr3> i'll promise sil2100 to not request any other silos while i'll have that one
[13:53] <Cimi> seb128, every laptop suspend  in utopic unity crashes and keeps crashing until I reboot... happening since few weeks. do we have a bug for that?
[13:53] <seb128> Cimi, not that I know about no
[13:53] <Cimi> ok
[13:53] <Cimi> seb128, strangely apport doesn't collect anything
[14:11] <mhr3> Saviq, dednick texted me that dist-upgrade hosed his system... guess he might not make it to standup
[14:12] <Saviq> mhr3, ouch
[14:12] <Saviq> mhr3, thanks
[14:16] <tsdgeos> Saviq: any idea who/what can be setting the Theme to Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark ?
[14:16] <MacSlow> Saviq, for the "changelog bump" in lp:unity-notifications, regarding the increased max. number of actions, what part of the package-version (x.y.z+ddmmyyyy-pkgrev) is meant the be increased?
[14:17] <Saviq> MacSlow, just the part before +
[14:17] <Saviq> MacSlow, and leave it UNRELEASED
[14:17] <dednick> grrr
[14:17] <dednick> new kernel hosed my system.
[14:17] <Saviq> dednick, welcome back
[14:17] <Saviq> tsdgeos, Shell.qml:74
[14:17] <tsdgeos> Saviq: no, that's SuruGradient
[14:18] <dednick> for some reason above 3.8 kernel doesnt work on my system.
[14:18] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ah, then UITK probably
[14:19] <dednick> i did notice some errors go past on dist-upgrade though...
[14:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, MainViewStyle.qml
[14:20] <tsdgeos> yeah
[14:20] <Saviq> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/Ambiance/MainViewStyle.qml
[14:20] <tsdgeos> found it
[14:20] <tsdgeos> Saviq: you aware it's overriding our surugradient?
[14:20] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok... that's what's to be checked in unity8's debian/control afterwards. Still, I have yet to find the correct option of "dch" to create the correct changelog-entry or is that something one has to do manually?
[14:21] <tsdgeos> also that weird construct is making valgrind and asan complain
[14:21] <tsdgeos> obviously not what causes our crashing problems
[14:21] <tsdgeos> but makes asan stop there
[14:21] <MacSlow> Saviq, is what it looks like atm http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7653268/
[14:22] <Saviq> MacSlow, 'dch -v 1.2.3 "Changelog entry"'
[14:22] <Saviq> MacSlow, just drop the part after +
[14:22] <Saviq> MacSlow, but yeah, `dch -v 0.1.3-0ubuntu1` would work
[14:23] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok... well 0.1.2 is already the bumped version :)
[14:24] <Saviq> MacSlow, then that, yes
[14:25] <Saviq> tsdgeos, so we don't get SuruDark in the end?
[14:26] <Saviq> erm SuruGradient?
[14:26] <tsdgeos> Saviq: nope
[14:26] <Saviq> *interesting*
[14:26] <tsdgeos> or at least i'd say not
[14:26] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7653295/
[14:27] <tsdgeos> first output is what you set, second what you had
[14:27] <tsdgeos> the last ones are Dark, Dark anyway
[14:27] <Cimi> seb128, where do I find unity 7 log?
[14:27] <Cimi> seb128, keeps respawing
[14:28] <seb128> Cimi, ~/.cache/upstart/compiz.log or gnome-session-Unity.log
[14:32] <Cimi> seb128, I have this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1311037
[14:32] <Cimi> seb128, for unity7
[14:33] <Cimi> seb128, no nvidia card on this laptop
[14:35] <seb128> Cimi, try talking to the #ubuntu-x team if you hit that error
[14:42] <Saviq> mhr3, had to recon the unity8 silo, will take a bit more to land :|
[14:42] <mhr3> Saviq, np, i'm ready to rebuild it a few times...
[14:43] <Saviq> mhr3, I meant the app id hack
[14:43] <Saviq> erm, category id
[14:43] <mhr3> right
[15:00] <dednick> hm. apparently my new kernel doesnt like nvidia
[15:05] <Cimi> seb128, works with trusty kernel I think
[15:05] <Cimi> seb128, why don't we have tests for those errors?
[15:06] <seb128> Cimi, because hardware specific issues require real hardware, and we can't easily own/manage every single hardware config that ever shipped in the world
[15:06] <Cimi> seb128, it's a dell certified vostro
[15:06] <Cimi> btw I see the point
[15:06] <Cimi> hopefully we'll debug it
[15:07] <seb128> step one is to report a bug
[15:07] <Cimi> seb128, I failed to get debug symbols
[15:07] <Cimi> seb128, tried attaching gdb before suspending
[15:07] <Cimi> resuming
[15:07] <Cimi> boh, didn't get anything
[15:08] <Cimi> I will try again another time
[15:29] <dandrader> mzanetti, unity8/mirCompositor merge done
[15:36] <mhr3> Saviq, thoughts how we'd do https://f966f709-a-c881af26-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/canonical.com/unity8dash/toolkit/10-content-loading/mixed_bar_surface.png?attachauth=ANoY7cqrTVVU7UYpiae_0usTaP887PIG-9Qf90uiqJ9FRI0RUUCjLtx0jE9tpeJyimfW_3nRUiX0D3pDXqd4tncf7yep5FF7oaD8k-aRzkbl4Ntkto2VGgfvzxZu6uyNQbYaZk6mZnw5VLLv0b0sZbpqB6bAUiV4mz9_UWqkQqjVBm4HmvN1hgS0HhczULqx_5KEc93IMLJ0RfI6gZSl7RYY7aAeRmt-5xeWiJicT42ecs_Ck0KDLjGRss1jpp
[15:36] <mhr3> S6PifqzmOUKdbg&attredirects=0 ?
[15:36] <Saviq> mhr3, yeah, url shortener
[15:36] <mhr3> :)
[15:36] <mhr3> Saviq, http://goo.gl/1aixM9
[15:37] <Saviq> mhr3, we have two usecases there, no internet connection and no account configured
[15:37] <Saviq> mhr3, (at least)
[15:37] <Saviq> mhr3, so I'm thinking two strings + url coming from the scope
[15:38] <mhr3> Saviq, no account needs to be different, cause no internet is always just one, missing account creds can be multiple
[15:38] <Saviq> mhr3, multiple as in multiple accounts missing?
[15:38] <mhr3> yea
[15:38] <Saviq> mhr3, don't think you'd display multiple lines like this
[15:39] <mhr3> indeed, i think design was thinking about an inline card button for account issues
[15:39] <Saviq> mhr3, one button "accounts" would be just as useful I'd think, maybe with the left one listing supported accounts?
[15:39] <mhr3> hm, maybe, that's still not designed apparently
[15:40] <Saviq> mhr3, yeah, so...
[15:41] <mhr3> i do remember mike promising me that design though
[15:43] <elopio> ping Saviq, tedg: this is an interesting bug, but I'm not sure who can investigate on it
[15:43] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1329141
[15:44] <elopio> can you assign it to somebody?
[15:44] <Saviq> elopio, please trace the .crash file first
[15:44] <Saviq> elopio, apport-cli on the .crash file on the device where it's from
[15:45] <Saviq> elopio, otherwise the .crash file is missing details
[15:45] <mzanetti> dandrader: thanks
[15:45] <elopio> Saviq: that one comes from ci. So we should configure jenkins to do that?
[15:45] <Saviq> elopio, I *thought* it was configured already (whoopsie-upload-all does that)
[15:45] <Saviq> elopio, but apparently it doesn't
[15:46] <Saviq> elopio, bug #1317968
[15:46] <Saviq> bug #1260384
[15:47] <Saviq> elopio, in any case, qmlscene crashing has nothing to do with unity8
[15:47] <elopio> I'll ask on ci about the trace.
[15:48] <elopio> tedg: if qmlscene crashes during ubuntu-launch-app, is it on your plate?
[15:49] <Saviq> elopio, unlikely
[15:49] <tedg> elopio, Not really, it'd be the application that it's running.
[15:49] <Saviq> elopio, but I believe fginther saw qmlscene crashing in jenkins recently
[15:49] <Saviq> elopio, maybe he knows the issue
[15:49] <Saviq> (and fixed it for us, too)
[15:50] <tedg> Ah, it seems to be in one of the test applications.
[15:50] <elopio> Saviq: in this case, it's not an application.
[15:50] <elopio> it's the fake qmlscene that we use to test application life cycle on unity
[15:50] <Saviq> elopio, so it is an application ;)
[15:50] <elopio> so it's just an empty dummy app.
[15:50] <Saviq> elopio, empty, dummy, but still an app (coming from UITK autopilot, too)
[15:50] <Saviq> (I think?)
[15:50] <tedg> Not a fake QML scene, the real QML scene binary
[15:51] <elopio> right, a fake qml that we launch with qmlscene.
[15:51] <Saviq> elopio, and fginther had exactly the same in our qmluitests job, fixed it in some way, so maybe he has an idea
[15:51] <elopio> it's an app, but should have nothing that could cause the failure.
[15:52]  * elopio waits for him...
[16:06] <Saviq> mzanetti, oups, I replied to Olivier but dropped you guys from CC to not spam (went to warthogs still), yes there was a QtWeb* session, there's notes on the wiki, apparently none of us went there
[16:11] <mzanetti> Saviq: yep... just saw the mail
[16:11] <mzanetti> sounds like Germany just scored a goal
[16:11]  * mzanetti does not have any TV running
[16:12] <Saviq> they just started though :D
[16:12] <mzanetti> well... 12 minutes
[16:12] <Saviq> yeah, 1:0
[16:13]  * Saviq runs out o/
[16:13] <mzanetti> people were going wild around the neighborhood... so I assumed must be that
[16:31] <mzanetti> and again :D lol
[16:37] <dednick> Saviq: is the split greeter now reverted in image?
[16:39] <mzanetti> dednick: its in trunk now, yes
[16:39] <dednick> mzanetti: in phone image?
[16:40] <mhr3> ah, tsdgoes gone?
[16:40] <mzanetti> dednick: afaik in trunk also means in the latest devel-proposed image. its not in a propagated image yet
[16:40] <dednick> mzanetti: i c
[16:40] <dednick> mzanetti: thanks
[16:40] <mzanetti> np
[17:47] <fginther> elopio, what's up?
[17:47] <Malinux> I made a search lense couple of years ago. It worked in ubuntu 12.04. However, in 14.04 it dosen't show up in dash
[17:47] <Malinux> how can I make it work with ubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:47]  * greyback eod
[17:47] <elopio> fginther: have you seen qmlscene crashes recently?
[17:48] <fginther> elopio, I have not looked at any recently
[17:48] <fginther> elopio, there was an issue in CI with qmlscene running on desktop last week, but that was resolved to running on the wrong release
[17:49] <elopio> fginther: ok. I've marked the bug as incomplete, waiting to see if we can gather more information.
[17:49] <elopio> the last daily run was impressively green.
[17:50] <fginther> elopio, if I read the scrollback though, it looks like back traces are missing (due to the switch to using the smoke test runner)? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ci-services-itself/+bug/1317968
[18:09] <elopio> fginther: yes, I think you are right. Andy said he was going to prepare a branch for it.
[19:18] <dandrader> mzanetti, ping


[00:21] <DarinMiller> R13ose: In Kubuntu 17.04, the desktop will have the ability to configure Picture of the Day, with the ability to point to Astronomy, Earth Science, Flickr, Nationion Geo, NOAA, and Wikimedia.  Backport to the 16.10 and 16.04 MIGHT recieve these updates, but it may be a while if ever.
[00:23] <R13ose> DarinMiller: in April?
[00:24] <DarinMiller> Yes.  17 = 2017,  04 = month,
[00:25] <R13ose> DarinMiller: would what I want be a lot of bandwidth?
[00:26] <DarinMiller> As far as I can tell, it just loads 1 picture per day. So IMO, bandwith should be minimal.
[00:37] <R13ose> DarinMiller: I found one photo that is amazing so that is food enough thanks
[00:37] <DarinMiller> R13ose: very good. :)
[00:39] <R13ose> What else can I do to make everything better?
[00:43] <DarinMiller> R13ose: what version of Kubuntu?
[00:43] <R13ose> 16.10
[00:45] <DarinMiller> I recommend installing backports to minimize dual monitor issues and enable newer version of plasma.
[00:45] <R13ose> How do I do both of these?
[00:46] <DarinMiller> R13ose: Backport PPA info is found here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[00:46] <DarinMiller> Let me know if you it makes sense.
[00:47] <DarinMiller> Bascially, run 3 commands in the terminal:
[00:47] <DarinMiller> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[00:47] <DarinMiller> sudo apt-get update
[00:47] <DarinMiller> sudo apt full-upgrade
[00:47] <DarinMiller> apt and apt-get serve the same function...
[00:50] <R13ose> What about plasma?
[00:50] <DarinMiller> Plasma updates are included in the ppa.
[00:51] <DarinMiller> check your currrent version of plasma, launch kinfo via krunnner (alt-spacebar)
[00:53] <DarinMiller> What is your current plasma version?
[00:53] <R13ose> I will look waiting for updates to finish
[00:54] <DarinMiller> When updates are complete, your plasma version should be 5.8.5 (but I don't recall the default version that shipped with 16.10).
[00:55] <R13ose> DarinMiller: yep it is 5.8.5 but I might have updated that earlier
[00:56] <R13ose> How do I get rid of all the ppa's that I don't use or fail when I update them?  I thought there was a command
[00:56] <DarinMiller> install ppa-purge
[00:56] <DarinMiller> http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[00:58] <DarinMiller> The people who package the Kubuntu PPA are very careful, so you should not have any issues.  If issues are discovered, please report them here!
[00:58] <R13ose> DarinMiller: no auto way to do this.  I already installed that
[01:00] <DarinMiller> You want to purge a ppa?
[01:00] <DarinMiller> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[01:00] <DarinMiller> sudo ppa-purge <ppa_name>
[01:00] <R13ose> Automatically yes if they are failing or not being used
[01:00] <R13ose> That is manual, I want auto
[01:02] <DarinMiller> you can disable the ppa via: sudo software-properties-kde
[01:04] <DarinMiller> but that will not purge/remove any installed packages.  You use Discover to remove packages individually if you discover issues. Once the PPA is disabled, re-installing the package will install the original version.
[01:05] <DarinMiller> Discover also provides a link to launch software-properties-kde if you prefer to avoid the terminal.
[01:06] <DarinMiller> Most solutions provided in this channel will reference command the command line options as they are much easier to communicate than attempting to navigate a user through a gui menu.
[01:09] <Adynathos> is this the right place for questions related to KDE development?
[01:11] <R13ose> DarinMiller: yes but seems no auto way to do this.
[01:11] <R13ose> DarinMiller: moving on, anything else I should do?
[01:11] <DarinMiller> Adynathos: For desktop development, check the #plasma channel.  For individual apploications, each app may have it's own channel.
[01:12] <DarinMiller> R13ose:   This is a list of stuff I install and configure on a new install: https://sites.google.com/site/bcelinux/classroom-news/kde1510configuration
[01:12] <DarinMiller> If you cannot see that link, I can pastebin the text.
[01:13] <Adynathos> thanks, i would actually want to make my own program using KDE KParts, and I am looking for some example application
[01:13] <Adynathos> the existing tutorial is for KDE4
[01:13] <Adynathos> and i see that for KF5, many include files changed names, and different classes are used
[01:14] <DarinMiller> Adynathos: I recommend finding an app with a interface similar to what you want and download that source package.
[01:15] <DarinMiller> Adynathos: kubuntu packages can be found here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[01:16] <Adynathos> i looked at dolphin source and could probably find something there, but just wanted to ask if theres a nice tutorial somewhere so i don't miss it :)
[01:16] <R13ose> DarinMiller: which dpi do I choose?
[01:18] <DarinMiller> R13ose: DPI is a personal preference.  If you have hi dpi displays, you may need to use a dpi of 144 or 168 for comfortable viewing size of fonts and icons.
[01:19] <R13ose> DarinMiller: 96 is fine?
[01:19] <DarinMiller> If you display in not high dpi, you may want to force it to 96 or so.
[01:20] <DarinMiller> R13ose: 96 should  fine for full HD (1920x180) and lower.
[01:21] <DarinMiller> Set the dpi, hit apply then open file manger (Dolphin).
[01:21] <R13ose> Seems the same
[01:21] <DarinMiller> Adjust dpi until the menu fonts and text sizes are to your liking.
[01:22] <DarinMiller> You will need to relaunch Dolphin after each dpi adjustment.
[01:23] <R13ose> 96 is best
[01:23] <DarinMiller> Dpi also affects the kicker menus and will now be apparent until plasma is restarted.  (killall plasmashell &&  plasmashell &)  or just log out and in.
[01:26] <DarinMiller> not be apparent ^
[01:28] <R13ose> DarinMiller: how do I choose GTK3 by default?
[01:31] <R13ose> I get it sorry was reading wrong
[01:34] <DarinMiller> Breeze for GTK theme is fine now (before 16.10, the defaut GTK theme was incomplete and required updating.  I will update my notes...)
[01:44] <R13ose> DarinMiller: how do I get cascading menu on panel?
[01:45] <R13ose> What is meta?
[01:49] <DarinMiller> Right click on the "K" laucher (kicker laucher) icon and select alternatives.
[01:49] <DarinMiller> launcer^
[01:50] <DarinMiller> Meta = windows key (or racing flag as my aunt call it).  aka super key.
[01:53] <R13ose> DarinMiller:  I like dashboard
[01:54] <DarinMiller> Very good.  I like choices and KDE has lots of them.
[01:59] <R13ose> DarinMiller: where is task manager in kde menu editor?
[02:01] <oleg__> 1
[02:01] <oleg__> опять
[02:05] <DarinMiller> R13ose:  task manager is called ksysguard in the Systems menu.
[02:06] <DarinMiller> KDE naming can be quite confusing (as least is was for me for the 1st few months).
[02:08] <koffeinfriedhof> Hit Ctrl-ESC :)
[02:10] <R13ose> DarinMiller: the only other thing bugging me is sometimes the apps crash like a browser but if I go to a new tab or scroll down and go to a another app window and come it will be fine until I have to move again.  This has happened on the panel before.
[02:10] <DarinMiller> R13ose: Also, I am using the Windows name equivelant for the Systems monitor (ksysgaurd).  In KDE the panel has a taskmanager
[02:13] <DarinMiller> R13ose:  I don't understand.  You not able to move a window due to something crashing?
[02:14] <R13ose> DarinMiller: I believe so
[02:15] <jack>  I had to use nomodeset when booting to the live version of linux mint. I then installed it to my hard drive and rebooting. I am unable to log in becuase it freezes when I try. I think I need grahics drivers or to boot in nomodeset again, but I am not sure how to do this now that is installed, only how to boot into nomodeset from the live usb.  Does anyone know how to do this
[02:17] <DarinMiller> R13ose: That's sounds like a kwin crash.  You should not see those issues with backports installed (at least kwin has not crashed on me since I installed backports).
[02:17] <R13ose> DarinMiller: okay
[02:17] <DarinMiller> Kwin controls the "window decorations" or the frames around the application gui contents
[02:18] <R13ose> thanks that is all
[02:19] <DarinMiller> if that happens again, try running "kwin" from krunner or the terminal.  Although is should restart automatically when if it crashes.
[02:19] <DarinMiller> OK, R13ose have good day/evening/night :)
[02:19] <R13ose> DarinMiller: with backport?
[02:20] <DarinMiller> jack: yes, boot with nomodeset again and install graphics drivers.   Dual video card (NVidia and Intel) on a skylake laptop by chance?
[02:22] <DarinMiller> Another option to try is you want to avoid proprietary drivers in use modprobe.blacklist=nouvea in the boot line (assuming you have an NVidia and Intel card).
[02:24] <DarinMiller> R13ose: with or without backports:  as test  you can stop kwin (killall kwin or use ksysguard to kill it).  Then run "kwin &" from a terminal to restart it.
[02:25] <R13ose> Okay
[02:25] <R13ose> I am not using a superuser
[02:26] <DarinMiller> jack:  Do you need more precise instructions?
[02:27] <jack> it worked great thanks man everything works perfectly now
[02:27] <DarinMiller> jack:  wow, that was fast!
[02:28] <jack> now hopefully installing windows on the virtual machine works
[02:28] <DarinMiller> Yes, it works very well.  vbox or kvm?
[02:29] <DarinMiller> (or something else...)
[02:29] <jack> i'm not sure which to use do you have a recommendation
[02:30] <R13ose> Bbs
[02:31] <DarinMiller> Virtualbox is slightly more polished for a casual user.  KVM is more industrial and seems to be geared more toward sysadmins.  But both work very well.
[02:32] <jack> is there an app to get virtual box
[02:33] <jack> nvm i got it thank you!!!
[02:33] <DarinMiller> You can install the one from the repos but its a little old or you can dowload the latest here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[02:34] <jack> awesome thanks
[02:49] <Camaqui> Does graphics amd radeon r5 m240 supported by kubuntu?
[02:52] <jack> yes
[02:52] <Camaqui> Correction radeon r5 m430
[02:56] <jack> my mouse only has one button how do I make it so cntrl + click is the right click (in linuxmint) <darinmiller>
[10:43] <troffasky> ouch, i would just buy a new mouse :-)
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:55] <viewer|83480> hi, there!
[12:57] <viewer|83480> is anyone alive? :-)
 we are, but it is Sunday lunchtime. beef and roast potato calls ;)
[13:04] <acheronuk> !ask
[13:04] <user|43178> not working resolvconf on kubuntu 16.04
[13:05] <acheronuk> !forums
[13:05] <user|43178> thanks
[13:06] <acheronuk> and askubuntu. sorry. Sunday is quiet
[13:07] <BluesKaj> uhm I was about to ask him if he's using static IP, but too late
[13:43] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:33] <efm> hello
[14:35] <DarinMiller> hi
[15:07] <lordievader> o/
[15:54] <physios_> Hi
[15:54] <physios_> I need some help with my headset mic which is not working
[16:14] <physios_> anyone here? :P
 Be patient, ask and you shall receive ;)
[16:16] <physios_> Alrighty sorry :P
[16:17] <physios_> I have a problem with my headset's microphone and I've tried to unmute everything on pavucontrol and google it and I am lost and need help, so far no one has been able to help me
[16:17] <physios_> Not because they didn't try though :P
[16:24] <physios_> I need help with my headset's mic which isn't working
[17:02] <physios_> Hey guys, I have problems with my headset's mic and linux
[17:04] <BluesKaj> physios_, check alsamixer in the terminal and make sure the headphone ctl is not muted withMM and the volume is turned up, for starters,
[17:04] <physios_> BluesKaj: I did that already it still doesn't work
[17:05] <BluesKaj> also make sure the automute is disabled
[17:05] <BluesKaj> in alsamixer
[17:06] <BluesKaj> plus the mic ctls are all turned up of course ,
[17:07] <BluesKaj> use F6 to see the all the ctls , depends which mic input your using, some are hidden on the far right
[17:09] <BluesKaj> physios_, correct F5 for all the ctls
[17:10] <physios_> BluesKaj: Sorry just saw your message now
[17:11] <physios_> BluesKaj: It still isn't working
[17:12] <physios_> BluesKaj: It didn't work
[17:13] <BluesKaj> physios_, which audio chip?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> aplay -l will tell you
[17:14] <physios_> BluesKaj: On alsamixer it says HDA Intel PCH but on the motherboard specs it says RealTek ALC892
[17:14] <physios_> BluesKaj: aplay -l says... just a moment
[17:15] <physios_> BluesKaj: aplay -l says
[17:15] <physios_> sec
[17:15] <physios_> BluesKaj: aplay -l says http://termbin.com/1h90
[17:15] <BluesKaj> ph ok, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then logout and  back in
[17:16] <physios_> BluesKaj: Be right back
[17:16] <BluesKaj> there won't be any output if the driver loads properly
[17:22] <physios> I am back
[17:22] <physios> I don't remember your name :/
[17:23] <physios> Rusty?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> you're in too many chats :-)
[17:23] <ghretighoti> Not just rusty; never been here before.
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ghretighoti, not you...
[17:25] <physios> BluesKaj: Yea
[17:25] <physios> BluesKaj: No one seems to be able to help me
[17:25] <BluesKaj> physios, sometimes a reboot is required if the logout/in doesn't do it
[17:26] <physios> BluesKaj: Your fix didn't work too, I will try to reboot though just a moment
[17:26] <BluesKaj> the thing is mics can be iffy on windows and linux
[17:26] <physios> BluesKaj: Yea I know
[17:27] <physios> BluesKaj: Its a mic conspiracy
[17:27] <BluesKaj> and if you're using pulseaudio then check that as well in system settings multimedis audio hardware tab
[17:28] <physios> BluesKaj: ?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> are you runbning kubuntu, or an OS with KDE ?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> physios,^
[17:29] <physios> BluesKaj: I am currently running linux mint kde edition
[17:30] <physios> BluesKaj: Be right back going to reboot
[17:30] <BluesKaj> then I'm not sure I can help, mint might use different settings than what I'm familiar with
[17:34] <physios> BluesKaj: Just restarted
[17:34] <physios> BluesKaj: no audio
[17:34] <BluesKaj> physios, then I'm not sure I can help, mint might use different settings than kubuntu
[17:35] <physios> BluesKaj: Trust me it doesn't differ much, I've used both
[17:35] <BluesKaj> and if you're using pulseaudio then check that as well in system settings>multimedis>audio>hardware tab
[17:35] <physios> BluesKaj: I have no sound btw
[17:35] <BluesKaj> yes I know
[17:36] <physios> BluesKaj: by hardware do you mean the "Device preference" tab
[17:36] <physios> BluesKaj: on Audio And Video -- System Settings
[17:37] <BluesKaj> but check you hardware output settings as above...pulseaudio is beside the preferences tab
[17:38] <physios> BluesKaj: I think you want me to go to this window, sec
[17:38] <BluesKaj> you may want to install pavucontrol
[17:38] <physios> BluesKaj: I have pavucontrol
[17:39] <BluesKaj> check the mic settingsa theretoo
[17:39] <physios> BluesKaj: PavuControl Says "Connection to PulseAudio Failed"
[17:40] <physios> BluesKaj: Do you want this window? http://imgur.com/a/TTvw1
[17:41] <BluesKaj> check input devices for mics
[17:41] <physios> BluesKaj: "No input devices available"
[17:42] <physios> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/MsiukSG that's pavucontrol
[17:44] <physios> BluesKaj: Any ideas?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> the pulseaudio isn't much good , I'm not supposed to advise users to remove default apps , but I purge pulseaudio on all my linux machines that have intel audio. The intel drivers are complete enough to use alsa alone..
[17:46] <physios> BluesKaj: is there a pulseaudio substitute
[17:47] <physios> BluesKaj: *Opens youtube tab to listen to music, no music plays*
[17:48] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is a sound server that rides on top of alsa, it's mainly needed for incomplete drivers of audio chips other than intel , and it's just another layer of unnessary processing IMO
[17:49] <BluesKaj> physios, paste a screenshot of your alsamixer
[17:49] <physios> BluesKaj: Just a moment
[17:50] <physios> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/a/AgZAh
[17:51] <physios> BluesKaj: My system seems unstable, again the image is http://imgur.com/a/AgZAh
[17:54] <physios> BluesKaj: any ideas?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> physios, try enabling loopback
[17:57] <physios> BluesKaj: Ok
[17:57] <physios> BluesKaj: I hear static
[17:58] <physios> WAIT
[17:59] <physios> I hear what I play on the computer
[17:59] <physios> basically a "stereo mix"
[17:59] <physios> nvm
[17:59] <physios> I thought I had no sound
[18:00] <BluesKaj> yes I see that on alsamixer ...do you have the pc connected to an audio receiver or amplifier with digital inputs/dacs ?
[18:01] <physios> BluesKaj: ?
[18:02] <physios> BluesKaj: This is a desktop PC and it doesn't have other connections than that
[18:02] <physios> but it has a hdmi monitor though
[18:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:05] <BluesKaj> I use my pc as a HTPC , connected to a home theater audio system thru the spdif coax digital out and hdmi for video on the connected tv/monitor
[18:06] <physios> nice, but I just use my pc for gaming
[18:06] <physios> the movies are on my phone sometimes on my laptop
[18:06] <physios> but I must say nice rig :P
[18:07] <BluesKaj> I'm an old audio guy from waaay back ;-)
[18:07] <physios> :P
[18:14] <physios> BluesKaj: How do I renable the pulseaudio thingy?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> in system settings> multimedia> hardware device tab
[18:29] <physios> BluesKaj: I mean how do I revert sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[18:31] <BluesKaj> you need snd-hda-intel, it's the audio driver and you've already loaded it and you need that driver for your audio to work
[18:32] <physios> BluesKaj: Yes but that disabled my pulseaudio
[18:32] <physios> BluesKaj: That command you gave me
[18:33] <BluesKaj> no it didn't, it loaded the intel driver, it doesn't diable pulseaudio
[18:33] <BluesKaj> disable
[18:34] <physios> ok
[18:36] <BluesKaj> recommend you chat with the mint users about this , they may have a different setup for pulse and alsa
[18:36] <BluesKaj> !mint
[20:49] <Corship_> Hello everyone
[20:51] <Corship_> Does anyone has expierence with grub and efi, in dualboot?
[20:54] <Corship_> hello
[20:54] <ayt89> hi
[20:54] <ayt89> I havent dual booted in a very long time
[20:54] <ayt89> Whats the issue?
[20:55] <Corship_> the issue is that my efi doesn't let me choose grub, but instead always uses the windows bootloader
[20:56] <Corship_> I've mounted the efi partition, and have the following entries:
[20:56] <Corship_> Boot/  gummiboot/  Microsoft/  pclinuxos/
[20:57] <Corship_> update-grub2 gives me
[20:57] <Corship_> Generating grub configuration file ... Found theme: /boot/grub2/themes/pclinuxos/theme.txt Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.8-pclos1 Found initrd image: /boot/initrd-4.9.8-pclos1.img Found Windows Boot Manager on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>efibootmgr: Skipping unreadable variable "Boot0002": Input/output error grep: Windows: No such file or directory grep: Boot: No such file or directory grep: Manager: No such
[20:57] <Corship_> And I think this is the issue
[20:57] <Corship_> but I don't have a clue how to fix it
[20:59] <brutah> sup
[20:59] <Corship_> hello
[20:59] <brutah> i'm looking ti get some help installing kubuntu on a macbook pro
[21:00] <brutah> i want to retain dual boot
[21:00] <Corship_> then I can't help you, sorry :D
[21:00] <ayt89> Corship: microsoft doesn't use money when we use Free Software
[21:00] <ayt89> Corship: this is their evil plot
[21:01] <brutah> there's alot of info going around but it seems to be a bit dated. i dont want to mess up the mac os install...
[21:01] <Corship_> XD
[21:03] <Corship_> Welp, I would love to delete windows. Half of my beloved steam libary would be worthless
[21:04] <ayt89> Corship some if it will still work with steam on wine
[21:04] <ayt89> Corship I know gaming on Linux can be a real bum
[21:04] <Corship_> yeah I know, and I am very thankful that steam is pushing it so developers are more interested
[21:05] <Corship_> but yeah, at the moment I have to fix the dualboot thing
[21:09] <Corship_> Hello
[21:11] <ayt89> Hello Cor
[21:11] <ayt89> but have you taken a good look at BIOS options?
[21:14] <ayt89> you MIGHT have something there


[00:13] <itadmin> hello
[01:46] <liba> z
[02:34] <circle> Hi online many sites say that KDE Wallet can be disabled in System Settings. I find the checkbox but when I uncheck and Apply, it responds "Permission Denied" what can I do?  I don't remember the password I set on the wallet and there are no precious passwords stored in it. I am annoyed by having to enter a password every time I connect to Wifi.
[02:44] <circle> ah edit ~/.config/kwalletrc and killall kwalletd5
[02:46] <sarnold> and is that enough to not be prompted after a reboot?
[03:06] <circle> have not tried yet.  One would hope that edit ~/.config/kwalletrc  to Enabled=false would do it .
[03:09] <circle> Hello there is openfoam-11 from openfoam.org and openfoam the ancient 1912 from (ESI) openfoam.com  Can they be installed simultaneously and work (presumably with delaying the bashrc magic until in the terminal just before running one or the other)
[03:11] <sarnold> that's one heck of a busted website
[03:12] <sarnold> you might have an easier time using two different versions of it if you use their docker containers
[05:11] <atreo> people is there a way to open the close an app after 2 seconds using the terminal?     like open weechat wait 2 seconds then auto close it?
[05:32] <atreo> people    gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme "Yaru-dark" turns light after reboot  why?
[05:32] <atreo> are all gsettings revert to default after reboot>?
[06:03] <atreo> people i am really struggling with gsettings and setting all the correct settings and haveing them persist, is there a tool that can save all the gsettings (so i set my enviroment up with the GIU then save the gsettings so i can auto replicate it using a bash script) ?
[06:03] <atreo> please help
[06:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i have 2 partitions, 1 normal , 1 luks encrypted, if i install ubuntu with root on normal and /home on encrypted, then my /home will be automatically encrypted ?
[07:03] <akik> any ideas why update-grub doesn't find win10 installation on my laptop booting in uefi mode? i had to add the win10 grub config myself to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[07:07] <akik> this is my 40_custom now: https://termbin.com/9ilo
[07:12] <akik> i'm using ubuntu 22.04
[07:14] <swift110-mobile> Sup
[08:23] <atreo> people how can i run a command that opens an app (like weechat) have it sleep for 1 second then automatically quits it?
[08:39] <rfm_> atreo, look up shell job control, should be able to write a script that basically does "command & ; sleep 1; kill %1", and there's some way to get the job number so you don;'t have to hardcode %1.
[08:42] <atreo> rfm_: ok let me try
[08:43] <rfm_> atreo, ah, it
[08:44] <rfm_> is @! for the pid of the last job, so command &; sleep 1; kill $!
[08:45] <atreo> rfm_: i keep getting    syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[08:47] <rfm_> semicolons for statement ends, but I'd really use newlines, and I'm not gonna write the whole script for you, in fact I'm going to bed.
[08:51] <atreo> that doesn't make sense , what do you mean new line and colon in the end?
[10:35] <Hagbart> is startup disk creator only accepting ubuntu isos? it wont accept any isos i put in the source
[10:46] <jeremy31> Hagbart: Try Ventoy, it can handle multiple ISOs
[11:14] <atreo> people i need your help   i have the following command    sed -i '/command==/c\command="[sh -c "setsid xdg-open \"$HOME\" &"]"' dconf-settings.ini       but i need to fix it so that it adds the following string in this format      command="[sh -c 'setsid xdg-open "$HOME" &']"       the issues is with the nested ' and "    can someone help me?
[12:26] <loswedseded> is this the correct channel to ask how to set up a lan to copy data from a mac to ubuntu?
[12:26] <loswedseded> Im now running bluettoth, but it transfers 0.1 MiB per second
[12:34] <CosmicDJ> loswedseded: scp should work, nfs/smb shares should work... why bluetooth?
[13:08] <loswedseded> because I don't know those options
[14:00] <x270> hello
[14:02] <x270> hello
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:57] <kubuntu> Mana Plus client crashes on-boot while-booting while doing its mideo test.
[14:57] <kubuntu> Kubuntu 23.10
[14:58] <oerheks> szstr, seek support in #manaplus here on #libera? it is not in our repos
[15:00] <szstr> It is not not not not not ayn the as our re3os
[15:00] <szstr> Alright you're right
[15:00] <oerheks> and the .deb is from 2019 .. good luck !
[15:00] <szstr> lol
[15:00] <oerheks> http://repo.evolonline.org/manaplus/ubuntu/
[15:01] <szstr> thank you oerheks
[15:17] <szstr> mana mmo ayz/is abandoned ware?
[15:18] <PeGaSuS> most probably
[15:19] <szstr> all righty
[16:34] <Simonious> how do I add a nameserver to 20.04.2 to stay? My edits keep getting overwritten
[16:34] <Simonious> (from CLI)
[16:35] <Alloysious> Simonious are you writing them to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:36] <Simonious> yes.. should I be writing /ec/systemd/resolved.conf instead?
[16:37] <Alloysious> are you running systemd-resolved?
[16:37] <Simonious> how do I tell? (looking that up)
[16:38] <Alloysious> systemctl status systemd-resolved
[16:38] <Simonious> it appears so
[16:38] <Simonious> Active: active (running)
[16:42] <Alloysious> so there are a couple choices. the systemd way is to add a *.network file in /etc/systemd/network/ with your device and its nameserves
[16:43] <Alloysious> the other option is to add them to your /etc/network/devices file
[16:46] <oerheks> systemctl status systemd-resolved gives active, even i use networkmanager
[16:46] <oerheks> so, what desktop are you using?
[16:48] <Alloysious> Is there anyone here who might help me understand PCIe bandwidth degrading? lspci tells me LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 8GT/s, Width x8, ASPM L1, but LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s, Width x4 (downgraded)
[16:49] <Simonious> <- no desktop
[16:50] <shadow255> Alloysious: without knowing the device and slot more particularly, it appears that an x4 device is plugged into an x8 slot
[16:51] <Alloysious> :( but it is an x8 device (XXV710) in a  x16 slot
[16:52] <Alloysious> and bios is set to pcie5 x16
[16:54] <oerheks> so ?
[16:54] <oerheks> x16 degrades to x8 ..
[16:54] <Alloysious> I understand ACPI can change bandwidth for energy reasons ( LnkCap2: Supported Link Speeds: 2.5-8GT/s ) but can it also degrade the width?
[16:56] <oerheks> you degraded the 'width'
[16:56] <Alloysious> is that somehow configurable in the kernel?
[16:57] <oerheks> you better ask this in #hardware, it is not an ubuntu/linux/kernel issue
[16:57] <Alloysious> thanks, I will check them out
[17:01] <ioria> Alloysious, https://superuser.com/questions/1095073/where-does-pci-e-link-width-negotiation-occur
[17:03] <Simonious> Things seem to be working somewhat better. Thanks for the help.
[17:03] <Alloysious> thanks ioria!
[17:03] <ioria> ok
[17:08] <Nitrigaur> ioria, I've tried installing the libreoffice snap both in classic mode as you suggested, but even then the libreoffice snap does not have access to the /usr directory (access denied). When installing in devmode for even more permissions, I *can* access the /usr/lib tree, but somehow not the /usr/lib/jvm directory where all the JRE's live. On the .deb-version, this directory *is* visible and browsable.
[17:09] <oerheks> Nitrigaur, that is correct, it should not have access outside your ~/home folder
[17:09] <oerheks> by design
[17:10] <oerheks> and it uses the openjdk it comes with by default; solution would be to install the deb version?
[17:10]  * oerheks remembers this has been discussed before
[17:13] <Nitrigaur> oerheks, even not in devmode? In my recollection, that mode should give full access to the filesystem. The snap version does not have a openjdk version included as far as I can see. The .deb version included in 23.10 (<IP_ADDRESS>) is quite buggy and repeatedly crashes Base, leaving my opened hsqldb corrupted with phantom indexes,
[17:15] <Nitrigaur> oerheks, otherwise, I would have just use the .deb-package instead and not bothered anyone here on this channel ;-) .
[17:21] <Nitrigaur> oerheks, nvm, I see now that the .deb LO has just got an update to <IP_ADDRESS> :-D
[17:21] <winterkosmos> Does anyone know of a good power management utility for Lubuntu? The default keeps crashing, and I heard the xfce one is good, but it doesn't work at all.
[17:22] <Nitrigaur> ioria, oerheks, thanks again :-)
[17:22] <lubuntu> g
[17:22] <lubuntu> l
[17:31] <illuminated> ok so i'm trying to do a do-release-upgrade.  I've not been upgrading my system and I'm still on 18.04.  I want to upgrade to 22.04.  However, I have a package that lists upgradable but it won't upgrade... idk why.  here's the pastebin.  https://paste.centos.org/view/da933f7e
[17:32] <illuminated> do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 20.04 is failing with an 'install all updates' type of error.. and I think it has to do with the vscode package.. but idk.
[17:34] <oerheks> see line #66 ,, and the EOL factoid
[17:34] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[17:34] <oerheks> 18,04 .. you ignored updates for a long time now
[17:37] <illuminated> lol yeah i did
[17:37] <illuminated> guilty as charged
[17:38] <illuminated> honestly
[17:39] <illuminated> probably as far out of date as it is
[17:39] <illuminated> with as much trouble as it's going to be to upgrade it
[17:39] <illuminated> probably just better to do a fresh install
[18:04] <Guest76> Hello there! I have a silly question to ask: what is happening when recursively shredding a directory in /var? Why does it fill up the entire partition free space and where exactly are the files shred is making to overwrite being created?
[18:05] <Guest76> Also /var is not a separate partition, is is in the root partition as a logical volume (/var is is root-lv).
[18:28] <rfm> Guest76, what file system is this.  A copy-on-write fs like zfs and btrfs would be allocating new space instead of overwriting...
[19:20] <frostschutz> Guest76, if there are any sparse files, shred also fills them up.
[21:22] <yziquel> the java ca-certificates throws segfaults each time i apt install it on mantic.
[21:22] <yziquel> seems broken.
[21:22] <leftyfb> !next | yziquel
[21:22] <leftyfb> oh, Mantic, sorry
[21:22] <yziquel> leftyfb ??
[21:22] <yziquel> what is !next ?
[21:22] <leftyfb> yziquel: can you pastebin the output?
[21:23] <yziquel> leftyfb no.
[21:23] <yziquel> not now
[21:23] <leftyfb> why not?
[21:24] <yziquel> leftyfb because i'm trying to create 3 hour long processes VM and I'd have to restart all that.
[21:24] <yziquel> leftyfb it's in their startup logs.
[21:24] <leftyfb> yziquel: also, are you referring to ca-certificates-java? From what I can tell, that breaks the ca-certificates package which would not be ideal
[21:24] <yziquel> ah ! no !! this one is lunar. and lunar is not maintained anymore. stupid me.
[21:25] <leftyfb> there's problem #1
[21:25] <oerheks> :-)
[21:26] <yziquel> but, regardless, a segfault is way too much.
[21:28] <elSmith-> Ubuntu is like milk. You don't want to use it past EOL or you'll get sick
[21:29] <oerheks> elSmith- this is the official support channel, jokes are not helpfull here, thanks.
[21:36] <sem> is kubuntu 22.04 supposed to have /etc/sddm.conf.d? Or Just /etc/sddm.conf
[21:41] <oerheks> sem, you have to create the /etc/sddm.conf.d directory and conf files from scratch yourself. or as /etc/sddm.conf.


[02:58] <mapps> Hello
[02:58] <phunyguy> hi mapps
[02:58] <mapps> What did i do this time
[02:59] <phunyguy> your bans were never really resolved, and I doubt they will ever be.
[02:59] <mapps> aha
[02:59] <phunyguy> way too many chances were given.
[02:59] <mapps> ok, not a problem
[02:59] <mapps> so im banned indefinitely?
[03:00] <phunyguy> not saying that, but you should find another place to chat for now.
[03:00] <mapps> ok, thank you, have a good day
[07:04] <ezri> !no, isitout is <reply> No, it's not out yet!
[12:48] <Guest84880> hello
[12:48] <Guest84880> i have banned from ubuntu channel
[12:49] <Guest84880> what should i do to get back i am sorry
[12:50] <Guest84880> the guy that banned me didnt create a channel for oplogize for me


[00:02] <Cheri703> confession: I am far too amused by the domino's pizza tracker...
[00:05] <canthus13> em: I'm creeped out by it.
[00:05] <canthus13> If it actually tracks drivers, you can deduce about how much cash the driver is carrying....
[00:19] <Cheri703> it doesn't track drivers, it tracks pizza preparation
[00:20] <Cheri703> though it hasn't moved for a while, so I'm doubting its accuracy
[00:28] <Cheri703> grr...originally it said 25-35 minutes (on the ordering page) and the thing just said it was put in the oven 5 minutes ago (which was at the 25 minute mark)...so unless it gets here in the next 7 minutes, I'm going to be annoyed
[00:28]  * Cheri703 is hongreh
[00:45] <jgould> Damn AEP
[01:13] <Cheri703> happy tummy, ate dinner :)
[01:17] <canthus13> Whee... Linux malware kits are on the way.
[01:18] <canthus13> should be easy enough to grab someone's admin password.  pop up an update 'window' on a web page that looks right.  When you click update and enter your password, they've got ya.
[01:21] <TheErk> Greetings Programs!
[01:23] <Cheri703> hola TheErk
[01:23] <TheErk> Cheri
[01:25]  * jgould grumbles
[01:25] <canthus13> eh?
[01:26] <jgould> I hate AEP
[01:27] <jgould> They finally turned our power back on and I've been running around for an hour trying to get things working again...
[01:27] <jgould> Also, my trackpad is driving me crazy
[01:28] <dmcglone1> whats up everyone
[01:33] <Cheri703> not a ton
[01:33] <Cheri703> getting used to quassel
[01:33] <Cheri703> and watching army wives :D hehe yes, I'm being a girl at the moment
[01:35] <dmcglone1> I'm installing Kopete right now, empathy is just crap
[01:35] <dmcglone1> I'm looking for a client that supports google talk, IRC, AIM and Yahoo
[01:36] <Cheri703> pidgin
[01:38] <dmcglone1> I didn't think it supported google talk :-/ Maybe I was wrong
[01:39] <dmcglone1> Yeah, it doesn't support video chat
[01:39] <Cheri703> I think it does
[01:39] <jgould> Gah! Where is all of this lag coming from?
[01:40] <dmcglone1> couple months ago, I tried and I read somewhere they don't plan on integrating video chat into it
[01:40] <Cheri703> hmm...hang on
[01:41] <Cheri703> I'm 90% sure it's supported
[01:41] <TheErk> What is wrong with Empathy?
[01:43] <jgould> I'm going to go get dinner... I'll be back
[01:45] <dmcglone1> when I sign on, it will not let me into an IRC room until I quit empathy and start again, also if I resize the window and type sentences long  than the window the window just grows and grows and grows unless I hit ctrl + enter to start a new line
[01:46] <dmcglone1> In short, it's just plain crappy to use
[01:47] <jrgifford> .join #ubuntu-forrst
[01:48] <dmcglone1> and my  hunch about kopete was right, it doesn't support IRC yet! grrrrrr
[01:48] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: technically it does support it, it's iffy though (video)
[01:49] <dmcglone1> it's bad :-/
[01:52] <Cheri703> I use the in-browser chat on my gmail page if I need video/audio
[01:52] <Cheri703> it's just easier than trying to have a client that supports it natively
[01:53] <dmcglone1> empathy does a darn good job at it, I'm just fed up with it's quirks. I guess I'll have to learn to live with them
[01:54] <dmcglone1> I can't stand having 50 million things in 50 million places, I guess I'm just as quirky as empathy :-)
[02:29] <jgould> I wish I could figure out how to switch audio devices when I want my USB headset to work rather than the internal stuff on my MacBook
[02:31] <jgould> Really?  the AEP supervisor works in Oklahoma?
[02:47] <Cheri703> jgould: open up the sound settings
[02:47] <Cheri703> input tab
[02:47] <Cheri703> you can change it there
[02:49] <jgould> I'm runnign Lubuntu... I'll have to find that
[02:55] <Cheri703> ah, k
[02:55] <jgould> I hate AEP
[02:59] <jgould> they have a monoply, and apparently the utilities indrusty is the only indrusty still allowed to have them...
[03:06] <jgould> ok... so I'm about to nix Lubuntu and go back to Xubuntu. (I'm indecisive...  Maybe I'm really a female... ;))
[03:11] <canthus13> jgould: Careful... Cheri703 might tear your lungs out for that comment... :)
[03:11] <Cheri703> ha, some of the most indecisive people I know are men
[03:11] <jgould> I didn't mean it in a bad way. Heh.
[03:12] <jgould> I think men are actually worse than women
[03:12] <Cheri703> and heck, if you're so indecisive you don't know if you're male or female, that sounds like an incredibly specific problem ;D
[03:12] <jgould> (see I can redeem my self)
[03:12] <jgould> LOL Cheri703
[03:15] <Cheri703> :D
[03:16] <jgould> Perhaps I should show up at UH in a skirt... XD
[03:16] <Cheri703> that is 100% up to you...
[03:16] <jgould> There is no way I'm the only transgendered Ubunter. :)
[03:16] <Cheri703> anyone of any persuasion or style of dress (barring random body parts hanging out that no one wants to see) is welcome at least at the mansfield ones :)
[03:16] <Cheri703> absolutely not jgould
[03:17] <Cheri703> there are lots of folks of various persuasions
[03:17]  * canthus13 hangs an elbow out...
[03:17] <Cheri703> EW GROSS canthus13!! YOU PERV
[03:18] <jgould> I wouldn't have anything hanging out
[03:18] <Cheri703> hehe, jgould you just reminded me of a line from some movie "how do you guys manage the tuck?!" "oh honey, ice cubes and tape"
[03:18] <canthus13> Cheri703: Eh? Have some respect! It's incredibly difficult to bend myself into a position like this!
[03:19] <jgould> Heh
[03:20] <jgould> I miss my polo that had Tux on it
[03:20] <jgould> I need to get a new one
[03:21] <jgould> is there not a traceroute for ipv4 anymore?
[03:32] <Cheri703> So I think I'm going to buy a nook...just waiting to hear what the announcement on may 24 might be...and decide whether to wait for whatever it might be, or pull the trigger on the one that's been around since 2009
[03:41] <jgould> I have a Sony PRS-505
[03:42] <jgould> Hmm... Where did I put my Xubuntu disk...
[03:42]  * BiosElement waves randomly
[03:42] <BiosElement> Home in one piece Cheri703?
[03:43]  * jgould installs BiosElement
[03:43] <Cheri703> yep yep BiosElement
[03:43] <Cheri703> jgould: do you like your sony one?
[03:44] <jgould> I do.  I don't use it as much as I once did.  check out the software called calbire (It's in the repos) for ebook management
[03:47] <jgould> sudo apt-get insall BiosElement
[03:48] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:49] <canthus13> jgould: E: Invalid operation insall
[03:50] <jgould> XD
[03:50] <jgould> What the hell did I do with my Xubuntu install disk...
[03:50] <jgould> I hate it wehn I don't put things back where they go...
[03:53] <Cheri703> yeah jgould I plan to check out/use calibre
[03:54] <Cheri703> I'm hoping the new announcement is a new e-ink model
[03:54] <jgould> Ok,  the window systems on teh Mac Mini are fubared... but I'm not sure if that's becasue of something I did, or if it's from the sudden power off earlier
[03:54] <Cheri703> (also, apologies for delays in responses, still getting used to quassel, and it lacks a certain notification setting I'm used to from xchat)
[03:54] <jgould> I've never gotten xchat to work with the Ubuntu servers...
[04:02] <Cheri703> gordon ramsey is such a sadist :) this episode of kitchen nightmares from 2 weeks ago had these 2 chunky twins boxing each other :D they're seriously real life tweedledee and tweedledum
[04:05] <jgould> Heh
[04:05]  * Unit193 is too lazy to read up...
[04:05] <Unit193> Hello all!
[04:05] <jgould> Hello
[04:06] <Cheri703> hey Unit193
[04:07]  * Unit193 didn't know he was going to be a pallbearer 'til he got there...
[04:38] <jgould> I've had that happen, Unit193
[04:46] <jgould> Hmm...  Any one know of software that will read .CR2 files from a Canon DSLR?
[04:48] <canthus13> jgould: http://platonic.techfiz.info/2010/11/10/cr2-canon-raw-file-management-in-ubuntu/
[05:07] <jgould> Hmmm... I may need to do a reinstall on the Mini
[05:08] <Cheri703> calibre is pretty cool
[05:08] <Cheri703> I was poking at it
[05:08] <Unit193> jgould: MacBookPro (7,1 or 7,3) is what my cousin had
[05:08] <Unit193> s/had/has
[05:10] <jgould> the 7,1's *should* be stable now
[05:10] <jgould> yes, Calibre is pretty cool.  I think the interface needs some polishing thoguh
[05:11] <Cheri703> yeah...there are tutorial videos on their website, which is pretty cool
[05:12]  * jgould is indecisive again...
[05:13] <Cheri703> just reach down and check, it'll help you remember ;)
[05:13] <jgould> XD
[05:13] <Unit193> He really liked Lubuntu LiveCD (Will show him the rest next time I'm there -Unity)
[05:14] <jgould> The 'start' menu in Unity reminds me of the Applications stack in MacOS 10.5 and higher
[05:15] <jgould> Unit193: Now I'm back to Ubuntu...
[05:15] <Unit193> That's sad ;) Did you ever take a look at MacUbuntu?
[05:15] <Unit193> If it's working better....
[05:16]  * jgould feels steam coming out of his left ear.
[05:16] <jgould> There's a MacUbuntu?  Does the GUI look like Aqua?
[05:18] <Unit193> It's more of a script: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/make-ubuntu-look-like-mac-osx-in.html
[05:19] <Unit193> http://sourceforge.net/projects/macbuntu/ <-- seems to be the main download
[05:19] <jgould> I'm not in a position where I can browse the interwebs
[05:19] <Unit193> Ah! It's also only for 10.10/04
[05:20] <Unit193> It kinda has the Mac OSX look...
[05:21] <jgould> I can do without the look.  (part of the reason for migrating...)
[05:25] <jgould> Hmmm.... I want some coffee
[05:27] <jgould> I still wish I could get rid of Plymouth and actually watch my systems boot...
[05:32] <canthus13> jgould: ctrl-alt-left arrow gives you boot progress.
[05:33] <jgould> It really doesn't show much when it boots, does it?
[05:34] <jgould> I remember the 2.2 kernels that would just blow you away with the amount of info displayed
[05:35] <jgould> Heh.  I really need to burn a new Ubuntu disk...  This natty disk is listed as "Ubuntu natty (development branch)"
[05:37] <canthus13> jgould: All the boot info is in dmesg.
[05:38] <canthus13> The only time I cared about boot messages is when the machine froze... and I haven't had that happen in a long time.
[05:38] <jgould> I'm just missing the old days...
[05:38] <canthus13> Now that I think about it, my debian servers display everything, but there's not a huge amount.
[05:39] <jgould> My server displays...  I'm not sure
[05:40] <canthus13> thumb drives are better for install media. no need for coasters laying all over the place.
[05:41] <jgould> I can't get my MacBook Pro to boot off a thumbdrive...
[05:42] <canthus13> Ah.
[05:42] <canthus13> how stupid.
[05:42] <jgould> not sure why, but it can't.   Once this download is done, I'm going to have to reboot from the command line
[06:14] <jgould> Hmm
[06:16] <jgould> wow...    Appearently the Mini can't boot from USB either...
[06:40] <oda> jgould: dell mini?
[06:41] <oda> jgould: I installed from an SD card on the EEE 1005ha
[06:44] <jgould> Mac Mini
[06:45] <oda> oh
[06:45] <oda> enough said
[06:47] <jgould> The Mini is more fully suppported than my MacBook...
[06:50] <Unit193> I take it you looked at the mactel page?
[06:50] <jgould> The mactel-support ppa?
[06:52] <Unit193> What version?
[06:53] <jgould> of mac Mini?
[06:53] <jgould> it's a 2,1
[06:56] <jgould> it's either the mini can't boot from USB or the Thumbdrive isn't bootable
[07:06] <jgould> Who was that?
[07:09] <jgould> Gah.   :D
[07:14] <jgould> Only because no one answers me!
[07:14] <jgould> LOL
[07:15]  * Unit193 still hasn't booted it on a Mac :)
[07:16] <jgould> what haven't you booted on a mac?
[07:17] <Unit193> *buntu
[07:18] <jgould> I have it booting on two Macs. :P
[07:35]  * jgould debates on setting up evolution to send and receive his email
[07:42] <Unit193> No T-bird? ;)
[07:46] <jgould> Not yet.  The Mrs. and I are going to go get soemthing to eat...
[08:54] <jgould> I'm back
[09:01] <jgould> it's almost as if I never left
[13:45] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[16:37]  * jgould wanders in
[16:44] <Derath-Srvr> hey
[16:45] <J21> Howdy Derath-Srvr , jgould
[16:51] <jgould> 'Ello
[16:51]  * jgould ponders going back to bed
[16:52] <dniMretsaM> hi guys
[16:52] <Derath-Srvr> hi mm
[16:53] <dniMretsaM> sup?
[16:53] <Derath-Srvr> not much, you?
[16:54] <dniMretsaM> same
[17:03] <dniMretsaM> I'm out
[18:53] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[18:55] <Derath-Srvr> Hey freak
[18:55] <canthus13> herro.
[18:56] <Unit193> Howdy thafreak
[19:00] <Cheri703> canthus13: sully is on his way
[19:02] <canthus13> Yay!
[19:21] <jgould> Ok, I'm back and awake now
[19:21] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[19:21] <jgould> thank you
[19:21] <Derath-Srvr> freak: taking a closer look at python now... not sure what all I would do with it, but it is really interesting
[19:23] <jgould> be careful, the python will bite
[19:23] <Derath-Srvr> lol With an infectous bite?
[19:24] <jgould> yes
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> Just looked at the ConfigParser library, it's definitely got some REALLY useful options in there...
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> May have to start tinkering...
[19:25] <deejoe> I tell you what you're going to do with it:  Learn to be very careful of your whitespace, if you aren't already ;-)
[19:25] <Derath-Srvr> Just one problem really, would have to convince work and clients to use/install python lol
[19:25]  * jgould knows not how to program
[19:26] <deejoe> jgould: you'd be surprised
[19:26] <Derath-Srvr> Deejoe: Already there... drives me nuts looking at other people's C/++/Java and seeing the lack of indents...
[19:26] <jgould> why do you say that, Derath-Srvr
[19:26] <Derath-Srvr> jgould: Python is easy enough to learn
[19:26] <jgould> er deejoe
[19:26] <deejoe> the only thing I've worked with that is more picky about whitespace is git
[19:27] <deejoe> jgould: I take a pretty liberal view of what constitutes "knowing how to program," at least for someone who has an interest in it.
[19:27] <deejoe> if it's "don't know/don't care" then forget you ;-)
[19:28] <deejoe> so, if you have an interest, I suspect you already are on your way to programming, or could be.
[19:28] <Derath-Srvr> looking for some non-indented code online to show difference...
[19:29] <jgould> I can skim source code and look at it and figure some of it out, but not most of it.
[19:29] <deejoe> well, there you go
[19:29] <deejoe> that is as respectable start as any
[19:29]  * Derath-Srvr is a better editor/debugger than builder anyways...
[19:30] <deejoe> takes all kinds
[19:30]  * deejoe finally got around to installing Scratch on a few machines to play with
[19:30] <Derath-Srvr> Here's a good indented, still looking for non... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style
[19:30] <deejoe> now that the kid is reading, it's a decent time to get started on that
[19:31] <Derath-Srvr> Second post: http://www.vbforums.com/archive/index.php/t-126099.html
[19:31] <Derath-Srvr> err third rather
[19:32] <thafreak> Derath-Srvr: python is usually almost everywhere amazingly...
[19:32] <thafreak> Hell, I've even found python pre-installed on windows machines
[19:32] <deejoe> Derath-Srvr: oh, you mean the big long wall-of-text one?
[19:32] <Derath-Srvr> YYeah... the wall of text lol
[19:32] <Derath-Srvr> Without indenting, it's hard as heck to read...
[19:32] <deejoe> not to be compared to the Phil Spector Wall of Sound
[19:33] <jgould> Indeted is far easier to read
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> freak: So I've seen, but I doubt that it would be installed on the servers, which is where I would be using it for...
[19:33] <deejoe> Derath-Srvr: imagine my pain logging in to a server and finding someone has their Dreamweaver set to use old-school Mac line endings.
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> jgould: Python relies HEAVILY on it being indented...
[19:33] <deejoe> so, not only no indenting, but no fracking line breaks
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> deejoe: Ouch
[19:33] <deejoe> s/\r/\n/g to the max
[19:33] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:34] <jgould> Derath-Srvr: Python is on my Ubuntu 10.04 server install.  (Doesn't everyone use Ubuntu on their servers? :))
[19:34] <deejoe> Debian, mang
[19:34] <Derath-Srvr> lol Not in my job... We do have a decent mix of Win/AIX/Solaris/RHEL systems though
[19:35] <thafreak> RHEL has *OLD* python though
[19:36] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah it does... that's just one of the many problems tho...
[19:36] <jgould> The company I work for is almost exclusivly windows...  They don't know any diffrent...
[19:36] <Derath-Srvr> AIX, Solaris, and the Win systems don't have Python...
[19:36] <thafreak> I avoid companies that use windows :)
[19:37]  * Derath-Srvr sighs
[19:37] <Derath-Srvr> Didn't have much of a choice here
[19:37] <thafreak> check out ipython
[19:37] <thafreak> it's a slick interactive python shell
[19:37] <jgould> If they'd move the propiitary database to somethaing that had a web interface, we *could* use any clients...
[19:37] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah I was noticing a lot of the tools
[19:40] <Derath-Srvr> My work does make use of ini files, so that's why I was looking at the configparser
[19:41] <Derath-Srvr> Even better since I can read that in and assign variable names and values...
[19:45] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, just foudn out that we do use python decently in our environment... just hard to implement in client environments
[19:49] <jgould> Derath-Srvr: I agree with the fourm topic of that non indented page you linked to.  I can think of a few others that need to be shot as well
[19:50] <Derath-Srvr> Exactly, I've ran across a bunch of files that I've had to re-edit to fix up the indents (html, xml, c, java) because it drives me insane...
[19:52] <jgould> My wife was having a problem with her screen reader reading a part of a web page.  I pulled the code on the page and read through it.  found waht I thought to be the problem had it fixed, and it didn't fix it... (It was a JAWS/FF/HTML5 issue)
[19:54] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah, can't say that many webpages are ever "accessible-friendly"
[19:54] <jgould> Pure text is! Heh
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> And aside from the irc logs and newsgroups/mailing lists archives, how many sites are using plain text? lol
[19:56] <jgould> Not many... Heh
[19:56] <Derath-Srvr> I can't imagine how a screen reader handles frames and all
[19:57] <jgould> The Mrs. "Frames are doable." (I think that should be read as "A Royal pain in the ass")
[19:57] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[19:58] <Derath-Srvr> sigh and speaking of reading, I've got a support guy that doesn't finish reading the friggin email I sent him...
[19:58] <jgould> Is Endevour the shuttle that just launched
[19:58] <deejoe> Endeavour, yeah.  Yesterday.
[19:58] <jgould> Maybe you need to indent your email..  ;)
[19:58] <canthus13> Check Nasa's site.
[19:59] <Derath-Srvr> Me: "I have data and timeframe of problem, please advise how to get a 40mb file to you", reply: "Thanks for the info, but we do not have data for that date, please run these reports and get back with us" <all paraphrased of course>
[20:00] <jgould> I found the shuttle tribute posters that hang on the wall of Firing Room 4 at Kennedy.  I put the proper poster up wehn a shuttle goes up
[20:00] <jgould> The repsonse had nothing to do with the original issue.  Nice
[20:01] <Derath-Srvr> Ya know, I thought they had stopped all the shuttle flights...
[20:01] <jgould> Nope.  Alantis is being turned around now.  BIRTHPLACE OF AVIATION ANYONE??? HELLO? Wouldn't have spaceflight if we COULDN'T FRIGGIN FLY!

[20:03] <jgould> I know
[20:03] <jgould> We should have gotten *one* of the birds...
[20:03] <Derath-Srvr> Oh wait, we got the "training console" lol
[20:04] <jgould> we should have gotten a complete bird.  where was the training console from?
[20:04] <Derath-Srvr> dunno...
[20:06] <jgould> you guys heard about the guy that fell from the pad before Discovery's launch, right?
[20:06] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[20:06] <scooter2> Hi! I'm planning on going to 11.04 and messing with my partitions today. Should I be backing up anything in addition to my home folder?
[20:06] <deejoe> yes?
[20:06] <jgould> config files
[20:06] <jgould> He didn't fall...
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> scooter: /home, /etc, and trying to think of where the apt-cache is stored...
[20:07] <jgould> /var/cache/apt/cache (I think)
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> Maybe someone can refresh me: create a list of installed packages, so that you can easily apt-get install from the list?
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> There was a handy one-liner command to do that...
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> dpkg --set-selections < installed-software
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> dselect
[20:08] <jgould> dpkg -l will create a list, but it's nto usable for that
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> There, those three lines will help to reinstall the packages you currently have (if you have to fresh install)
[20:09] <scooter2> Cool. Thanks!
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> Also, this page for the same, newer version tho
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> http://www.cpuug.org/index.php?topic=219.0
[20:10] <jgould> Lets see you do that with windows or Mac OS
[20:11] <Derath-Srvr> lol yeah
[20:12] <jgould> I'm hungry
[20:12] <jgould> Heh: "Print test page?" Optons are Cancel or Print.  Cancel doesn't do anything... You can only print...  It's far from warm here!"
[20:34] <deejoe> that too
[20:34] <deejoe> also, keep government out of my social security, kthx
[20:34] <jgould> I know that, deejoe.  Dealing with the SSA is a PITA
[20:37] <deejoe> heh
[20:37] <deejoe> not nearly as hard to deal with as if it didn't exist, I'll warrant
[20:42] <jgould> My wife and I are currently involved in a fight with the for benefits...
[20:43] <jgould> +m
[20:46] <jgould> brb...  taking a shower
[20:59] <jgould> what the hell...
[20:59] <jgould> lawn guys
[21:02] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[21:08] <jgould> they are cutting the grass...  I heard them drop the ramps on teh trailer
[21:10] <jgould> sudo apt-get purge current-rainfall
[21:11] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:12] <jgould> I tried
[21:27] <deejoe> SUMMON: SUNNY WEATHER
[21:35] <Derath-Srvr> You rolled a 1.
[23:12] <jgould> Hmmm... I wonder if Panera is blocking IRC... (or ports higher than a certian port number...
[23:16] <jgould> It's when I'm trying to do things and keep bumping the trackpad and it clicks, that I think about switching back to the Mac OS
[23:36] <TheErk> Hola
[23:59] <jgould> Hola


[04:55] <coz_> evening I was reding this    http://mail.google.com/mail/?auth=DQAAAG8AAABShUtJ3Qbao-4FE7YuU30SaquBqZCyzEuOkFMhaNTv-iG_BtaBwHKE2sR_DSQ1StUOD-Xm3n-9tw8vx0ubwj59Ie37kDGl90lPCFVXlTo1zIV_rSfqJwm1slE2Smj2bOw4zF_6nGSbfi2dKJpNSNI1
[04:55] <coz_> what has come of the monthy contest . will it be initialized?
[04:56] <coz_> drn for get that there
[03:50] <_MMA_> Hi guys. Ive been testing the -lowlatency and -generic kernels. On every one I get random shutdowns on boot. Id say 1/3rd of the time.
[03:50] <_MMA_> Should I report a bug?
[03:58] <_MMA_> CRAP!! Wrong channel.


[05:37] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:52] <ducasse> good morning
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> adding bug #1871336 to the ubuntu discuss team, as it still occurs on 20.04 for me this morning


[22:16] <luis220413> I found another CVE OVAL false positive. In my Ubuntu 20.04 system, I am using the kernel in the linux source package (5.4 series), that was marked as fixed for CVE-2022-32250 on July 13 (UTC). I ran the scan on July 19 (also UTC).
[22:18] <luis220413> * In one of my Ubuntu 20.04 systems
[22:26] <luis220413> Please remove the jquery source package from the entry for CVE-2022-31147 in the Ubuntu CVE Tracker because that package does not contain the jQuery Validation Plugin.
[22:26] <luis220413> Does Ubuntu provide a package for this jQuery plugin?
[22:27] <tsimonq2> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cve-tracker/tree/active/CVE-2022-31147
[22:28] <sarnold> luis220413: re the oval, did you reboot into a fixed kernel?
[22:29] <luis220413> sarnold: I always reboot after receiving a kernel update.
[22:32] <luis220413> The source package links on packages.ubuntu.com link to files in archive.ubuntu.com, which is HTTP-only (problematic in Firefox's HTTPS-Only Mode).
[22:35] <luis220413> tsimonq2: There is no jQuery Validation Plugin package in Ubuntu. So all packages should be removed from these two CVEs (not the kernel one).
[22:35] <luis220413> sarnold: ^
[22:35] <luis220413> Wait, currently testing 18.04, 22.04 and 22.10.
[22:35] <luis220413> *Kinetic
[23:00] <luis220413> sarnold: Confirmed. Please remove all packages from CVE-2021-43306 and CVE-2022-31147 in the Ubuntu CVE Tracker.
[23:12] <luis220413> I will leave now but will see your replies in the logs for this channel.


[01:06] <coz_> hey all
[02:07] <doctormo> hey coz_
[02:07] <coz_> doctormo,  hey guy
[07:21] <doctormo> Does anyone know where to find svg files for the logo submissions?
[07:21] <doctormo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/TeamLogoSubmissions
[13:05] <coz_> hey all
[18:39] <thorwil> ooh, colors! http://mothereffinghsl.com/
[18:52] <knome> 39:)
[18:52] <knome> emm, 38 :)
[19:19] <thorwil> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2038
[19:19] <thorwil> http://www.ncisfanwiki.com/page/NCIS%3A+Gibbs+Rules
[19:19] <thorwil> http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/Rule38.htm


[00:07] <cmaloney> woo woo
[02:30] <derekv2> This could be the the best thing I ever bought: https://goo.gl/photos/VVsCZVnnmRvwp9cY6
[02:31] <rick_h_> derekv2: which is the thing? monitor? desk? keyboard?
[02:31] <derekv2> monitor
[02:31] <derekv2> for scale, that's a 23" on the right =]
[02:32] <derekv2> I'll be building the rest of the computer soon, for now the macbook can (barely) drive it.
[02:33] <rick_h_> very cool
[02:34] <jrwren> cool. what is the res? 2.5k or 4k?
[02:35] <derekv> LOL I just realized I was admiring a photo of my new monitor on my new monitor... that's about as technonarcissitic as you can get
[02:35] <rick_h_> :)
[02:35] <derekv> 4k
[02:35] <jrwren> cool.
[02:36] <derekv> (also it's a terrible photo I know)
[02:37] <derekv> even with the HRD my phone wasn't sure what to do with that one.
[02:42] <derekv> the keyboard is 16~20 years old now, can't remember when I bought it.
[02:42] <derekv> It's an AT connector, with a PS2 adapter, with a USB adapter
[02:43] <derekv> my "new" one is at work
[02:43] <derekv> waiting for keyboard.io for my next refresh
[07:18] <Scary_Guy> I'm surprised they don't have direct AT to PS2
[07:21] <Scary_Guy> http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2495 as it was mentioned tonight.  I looked it up
[11:52] <cmaloney> Wow
[11:54] <cmaloney> Scary_Guy: Thanks for that link
[11:54] <cmaloney> derekv: That wow was for your setup


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