[00:02] <mterry> robru, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-seeds/trusty-drop-qtaudioengine/+merge/193166
[00:02] <robru> mterry, thx
[00:07] <Mirv> added it to the bug too
[00:59] <GreySyntax> Hi Guys, does anybody know what order the scripts would need to be run manually to boot trying to work out whats causing a bootloop
[00:59] <GreySyntax> systemd-udevd is up and /root is already mounted
[01:02] <AskUbuntu> Is the ubuntu phone filesystem mountable via a usb connection? | http://askubuntu.com/q/368221
[01:08] <akasoldats> yo, i just wanted say the colors for W-I-P and Perfect are the same here -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/M7
[01:11] <GreySyntax> akasoldats: last time that dev updated was august, trying to build a new image from scratch atm
[01:32] <MrWhite> Hey Hey
[01:32] <MrWhite> Had a quick question if someone wouldn't mind answering
[01:33] <MrWhite> Is anyone here?
[01:33] <MrWhite> Any dev's around?
[01:33] <MrWhite> :(
[01:34] <RobbyF> sleeping I thinkl.
[01:56] <MrWhite> yo yo
[01:56] <MrWhite> Anyone ever get touch on an old Windows tablet?
[01:56] <MrWhite> Like a slate tab?
[04:12] <zhangchao> I want to customize ubuntu touch kernel，Should I use linaro or arm-eabi to compile the kernel?
[05:20] <AskUbuntu> Mobile broadband not connect without unplug and plug | http://askubuntu.com/q/368294
[05:21] <AlanO_> I have a Nexus 4 running Ubuntu touch 14.04 (r5). Ever since loading 14.04, I haven't been able to connect the device to the QT ide, is this a known issue, or something that I've done wrong?
[05:44] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu touch 14.04 (r5) QT IDE problem | http://askubuntu.com/q/368302
[07:17] <jnhghy> Hi, I'm am a ubuntu user (made some small python apps for my ubuntu but I can't say I'm any tech ...) and I have a kind of futuristic question I guess... could it be possible in a not too far future version of ubuntu to send the digital TV signal that I get from my cable company throw wifi and receive it in my ubuntu phone? that can be connected to the TV and me to be able to have a not full-screen window that will show the tv cable stream? does it
[07:17] <jnhghy> sound doable in a near future or is it too SF?
[07:18] <diwic> jnhghy, the main problem is DRM - the stuff is encrypted
[07:18] <diwic> jnhghy, if you have an unencrypted stream I think it should be possible already
[07:19] <diwic> jnhghy, that said, wifi connections are kind of unstable in terms of latency, at least right now
[07:20] <RAOF> jnhghy: Depends on what you mean by "digital TV signal"
[07:20] <jnhghy> RAOF: at this point all I can think of is the signal that I get throw the tv cable...
[07:21] <RAOF> So, you can't send _that_ straight over wifi, because you need a hardware tuner in order to actually get information out of it :)
[07:22] <jnhghy> diwic: thanks for the info, the tv unencrypts the signal ... so I'm guessing that at least for a big company that would be doable... I haven't seen the wifi latency to be an issue until you pointed it out... another thing to think at...
[07:22] <RAOF> But once you've got the mpeg2 out, that works now, at least to an Ubuntu PC.
[07:22] <RAOF> That's roughly what MythTV and the other TV frontends do.
[07:24] <jnhghy> RAOF: thanks for the info ... I've checked MythTV, and it's for DVR, the idea of beeing able to switch channels from inside the OS was kinky ...
[07:26] <AskUbuntu> Can i install Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung Galaxy Note 1 | http://askubuntu.com/q/368349
[07:59] <Daneil> hi
[07:59] <Daneil> any1 here?
[08:00] <Daneil> can someone please help
[08:00] <AskUbuntu> WhatsApp aviable for Ubuntu Phone? | http://askubuntu.com/q/368360
[08:01] <Daneil> help!
[08:45] <Elnogga> hello
[08:46] <Elnogga> I was wondering how the Ubuntu-touch works with the galaxy S2 i9100?
[08:49] <ogra_> badly ... the port once was one of the best ones we had, but i think it didnt go forward at some point (i.e. i dont think calls or sms work yet)
[08:49] <Elnogga> oh ok
[08:50] <Elnogga> well its my old phone so I wont be using it for calls anyway
[08:50] <Elnogga> just wanna change OS's
[08:50] <ogra_> there is some planning going on to have regular porting clinics this cycle, hopefully the ports situation gets better again then
[08:51] <ogra_> to get a first impression trying the S2 port is surely not worng though ... just keep in mind it is not up to par with i.e. the nexus4 which is fully supported
[08:56] <ogra_> xnox, whats the reason to make use of any libGL stuff in android ? (nothing on arm should ever use GL, its all GLES)
[09:03] <RedPandaFox> What is the easiest way to update to the latest nightly? Is the best way still reflashing the latest build, or can we OTA update?
[09:04] <ogra_> the nexus devices can all do OTA nowadays
[09:04] <RedPandaFox> Which way is that? Through system settings?
[09:04] <ogra_> (you just use the GUI tool from the system-settings app to update them)
[09:05] <ogra_> note, this requires that your initial install was done using ubuntu-system
[09:05] <ogra_> (the phabelt-flash option that is)
[09:05] <RedPandaFox> Arh, that is why then. Awesome.
[09:06] <RedPandaFox> Also what is the best option for contact sync from Google if syncevolutuion wont work?
[09:06] <RedPandaFox> I use two step authentication on my google
[09:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Orthopaedic Nurses Day! :-D
[09:23] <TURK> one x in the stable?
[09:50] <xnox> ogra_: emulator/i386 loads host's libGL.
[09:51] <ogra_> aaah !
[09:51] <ogra_> *epiphany*
[09:51] <xnox> ogra_: which in turn provides accelarated GL, GLESv1, GLESv2 on the guest side, via libGL*_translator.so libs.
[09:51] <ogra_> yeah
[09:51] <xnox> =)
[09:51] <ogra_> i totally forgot about x86 :)
[10:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:58] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu-touch reverse USB tethering | http://askubuntu.com/q/368433
[11:29] <nik90> RedPandaFox: you can still googlesync despite two step authentication
[11:29] <nik90> RedPandaFox: just get an appplication specific password from google and enter that as your password
[11:29] <nik90> instead of your actual password
[11:30] <nik90> it is a bunch of random letters generated by google..you should be able to generate one at security.google.com/accounts I think
[11:36] <w-flo> are the phablet.ubuntu.com repos going to see an update to newer cm code for trusty?
[11:45] <ogra_> w-flo, there is a sprint goinh on this week where that will get decided
[11:46] <w-flo> ogra_, thanks! :)
[11:53] <davmor2> ogra_: morning dude is there a new image yet?
[11:54] <ogra_> davmor2, not before bug 1245958 is fixed
[11:54] <davmor2> ogra_: right no worries
[12:01] <RedPandaFox> nik90, awesome! I will give that a go
[12:02] <pitti> ogra_: didn't you say we'd build trusty images now?
[12:02] <pitti> ogra_: I just flashed devel-proposed again, and it's still saucy
[12:02] <ogra_> pitti, sure
[12:03] <ogra_> pitti, devel doesnt point to trusty yet
[12:03] <pitti> uh, how much more "devel" can it get? :-)
[12:03] <ogra_> pitti, asac wants us to wait for the first green image at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/
[12:04] <pitti> ogra_: somehow the CI test runners seem to flash trusty
[12:04] <pitti> I need to reproduce a failure there, do you happen to know how to install a trusty image?
[12:05] <ogra_> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty
[12:05] <pitti> I tried dist-upgrading, but that falls over badly due to some weird "cannot remove /usr/bin/unity8: device busy" error (even after stopping unity8)
[12:05] <ogra_> or on the device: system-image-cli -c trusty -b 0
[12:05] <ogra_> (if you have a saucy system image install already)
[12:06] <pitti> ogra_: ah, danke!
[12:07] <pitti> ogra_: (not trusty-proposed or something/)
[12:08] <ogra_> pitti, proposed is currently very broken due to bug 1245958
[12:09] <pitti> ogra_: oh, so that's probably why https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/dialer-app/enable-phonesim-tests/+merge/191248 keeps failing :)
[12:09] <davmor2> pitti: trust me image 8 gets on your nerves very quickly :)
[12:09] <pitti> ogra_: as the tests work perfectly fine with devel-proposed
[12:09] <ogra_> ... which is saucy :)
[12:10] <pitti> ogra_: right, which kept me wondering why I coudln't reproduce, until I checked lsb_releae
[12:10] <pitti> davmor2: no worries, I mostly want to confirm I get the same crash locally, to ensure it's not something in the test runners
[12:11] <ogra_> pitti, system-image-cli -i ... better than lsb_release ;)
[12:11] <pitti> yeah, if only it would actually work
[12:11] <pitti> more often than not it complains about /var/log/whatever not existing
[12:11] <ogra_> hmm ?
[12:11] <pitti> something seems to remove the log directory
[12:11] <ogra_> werid, works flawless for me on mako and maguro
[12:13] <davmor2> ogra_: oh Alan has  just posted a potential fix now do I test it or do I do my job :)
[12:17] <ogra_> davmor2, someone testing and confirming the fix would surely speed this up
[12:18] <davmor2> ogra_: I know but job ;)  Give me 5 to finish what I'm doing :)
[12:25] <janimo`> rsalveti, is the android ROM/ubuntu interface changing ? I just noticed the phablet-trusty branch
[12:31] <davmor2> ogra_: I'm not sure I'm knowing enough to build or patch this https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-1245958
[12:39] <Predu> hello
[12:40] <Predu> i need some help
[12:41] <cjohnston> Predu: just ask your question
[12:41] <Predu> i want to install ubuntu on my smartphone
[12:41] <Predu> and i don't know if my smartphone (LG OPTIMUS ME P350) support ubuntu
[12:42] <cjohnston> Predu: look on the wiki page in the topic
[12:43] <Predu> there are 4 devices listed, is that all?
[12:43] <cjohnston> that's all that is officially supported
[12:43] <cjohnston> there are community ports for others
[12:44] <davmor2> Predu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices if it's not there you would need to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting and create your own port
[12:44] <davmor2> Predu: I don't recommend the latter unless you know what you are doing
[12:59] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: zsombi|afk: any updates on the textChanged events problem ?
[13:00] <zsombi|afk> nerochiaro: none from my side
[13:19] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: ping
[13:23] <lucas__> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <lucas__> sudo apt-get install <app-name>
[13:23] <lucas__> sudo apt-get install touch-coreapps
[13:24] <lucas__> sudo apt-get install unity8
[13:24] <lucas__> unity8 -mousetouch
[13:25] <lucas__> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools
[13:25]  * ogra_ wonders when lucas__ will notice that he is typing into the wrong terminal :)
[13:25] <lucas__> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu [dist-codename] main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu [dist-codename] main
[13:26] <lucas__> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
[13:26] <xnox> ogra_: too bad sudo password was cached =/
[13:26] <ogra_> haha
[13:26] <lucas__> shit
[13:26] <xnox> shit: command not found
[13:34] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: sorry was at lunch
[13:34] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: what's up ?
[13:35] <tmoenicke> nerochiaro: do you have the bugreport about the textchanged issue?
[13:36] <nerochiaro> tmoenicke: bug 1243164
[13:58] <AskUbuntu> Cannot run Ubuntu (touch) Facebook App | http://askubuntu.com/q/368491
[14:22] <barry> thomi: with the new autopilot ppa, results are much better (but still not failure free).  i'll start looking into the details today
[14:22] <thomi> barry: hey man - just woke up - if you send me the results I'd love to take a look
[14:23] <thomi> it's useful to me to see someone who doesn't already have all the dependencies set up
[14:23] <thomi> ...means I can fix the package deps
[14:23] <barry> thomi: go have some coffee and a nice muffin :)  will email you in the meantime
[14:23] <thomi> I'm not sure nice muffins are available in this hotel :-/
[14:24] <barry> thomi: more room for coffee then!
[14:24] <thomi> mmmm... hotel coffee :)
[14:26] <genii> So long as it's not decaf ;)
[14:37] <barry> thomi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6330336/
[14:37] <barry> thomi: clearly at least one dep missing
[14:37] <thomi> yes
[14:37] <thomi> barry: do you have python-autopilot-tests installed?
[14:38] <karni> Do we have something like the "lifecycle delegate" mentioned in the 'Draft: Application Model' document, that I belive is public?
[14:38] <barry> thomi: i do now :)
[14:38] <thomi> barry: I wonder if we can pick this up later today? I have to go have breakfast and then I have a session to run this morning
[14:38] <karni> Or is this still just a design we want to look into in the future?
[14:38] <barry> thomi: oh for sure.  let's chat later whenever you're free
[14:51] <sr20dett> In the ubuntu sdk how can i use items out of the component show case in my app.
[14:52] <t1mp> sr20dett: are you writing a QML app?
[14:53] <sr20dett> Yes
[14:53] <sr20dett> In the ubuntu sdk using simple touch ui
[14:53] <t1mp> sr20dett: ok, here is the API for the ubuntu components http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/
[14:53] <t1mp> sr20dett: I'd start with these - http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Components/
[14:54] <sr20dett> Thabks
[14:54] <sr20dett> Thanks lol
[14:54] <t1mp> sr20dett: there is a tutorial here http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/
[14:54] <sr20dett> Good total noob haha
[14:55] <t1mp> sr20dett: or have a look at the getting started http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/get-started/ and include the components from the API webpage. Most components have examples listed in the pages.
[14:58] <t1mp> sr20dett: and have fun with it :)
[14:58] <sr20dett> Will do when im of work!!! Haha
[14:59] <moredeb> hello guys. i have plenty of time to spare and i'd like to contribute to ubuntu touch core apps. i have a tiny experience with qml but i'm eager to learn. do you have any advice for a starter?
[14:59] <popey> moredeb: hey!
[15:00] <moredeb> popey: hey!
[15:00] <popey> moredeb: we have bugs in core apps if you're interested in taking a look?
[15:00] <moredeb> i am. anything in particular?
[15:02] <popey> can i get back to you in a few, I am on a phone call right now
[15:02] <moredeb> popey: ok
[15:02] <popey> they are all linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[15:03] <popey> and bugs in launchpad may be tagged by priority..
[15:07] <moredeb> popey: i'll look into it. thanks
[15:14] <popey> moredeb: if you have any questions, feel free to ping me.
[15:55] <rsalveti> janimo`: hey, I just basically decided to freeze the saucy branch, so we can work on the trusty branch instead
[15:55] <rsalveti> janimo`: I created a branch for both hybris and platform-api, do you know if that will still be available once they are updated with your script?
[15:56] <rsalveti> janimo`: I'm testing it now and will send the email saying what I did in there and how we should move along during the trusty cycle
[15:56] <janimo`> rsalveti, ok, I just thaught the ROM side is independent of what is happening in Ubuntu land, but at least for kernel images picking the series makes sense
[15:56] <janimo`> rsalveti, I'll check to see if the scripts needs any mods
[15:57] <rsalveti> janimo`: the rom side is independent at this point at least, but we might decide to move to 4.3 or 4.4 over the next following weeks
[15:57] <rsalveti> to support more recent devices
[15:57] <janimo`> rsalveti, the script used the master branch for hybris and platfrom IIRC
[15:57] <rsalveti> janimo`: cool
[15:57] <janimo`> rsalveti, great. Is this based on newer CyanogenMod or plain AOSP 4.3/4/4 ?
[15:58] <daker> Kyle: ping
[15:58] <sergiusens> rsalveti, was that decided already?
[15:58] <rsalveti> janimo`: we don't know which base we'll be using yet, but let you know once we decide something
[15:58] <rsalveti> janimo`: but it could still be CM, if they also update to the more recent AOSP codebase
[15:58] <rsalveti> sergiusens: nops
[15:59] <sergiusens> rsalveti, anything interesting happening at the sprint?
[15:59]  * sergiusens wants the gossip
[15:59] <rsalveti> sergiusens: :-)
[16:01] <ogra_> yeah, keep a microphone on and stream it
[16:01] <janimo`> rsalveti, CM 10.2 nightlies are based on AOSP 4.3 so hopeflly they will be a good foundation for phablet
[16:01]  * ogra_ adds an audio backdoor to the next touch build :P
[16:03] <rsalveti> janimo`: yeah
[16:03] <rsalveti> janimo`: but we might need 4.4 in case we decide to officially support the new nexus 5
[16:15] <Kyle> daker: pong
[16:15] <Kyle> daker: you ping me a lot, and I don't know you ;)
[16:17] <daker> Kyle: sorry about that, are you Kyle Nitzsche ?
[16:18] <Mirv> tvoss: hi. we've one test in process-cpp failing almost every time https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155386797/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.process-cpp_0.0.1%2B14.04.20131030.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:18] <ogra_> daker, thats kyleN usually
[16:19] <daker> ogra_: ah ok
[16:20] <tvoss> Mirv, looking
[16:22] <Mirv> tvoss: then as another issue when the test does successfully pass, the packaging complains about symbols files not update, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155386600/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.process-cpp_0.0.1%2B14.04.20131030.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:22] <Mirv> tvoss: I'd file a bug but https://bugs.launchpad.net/process-cpp isn't configured yet
[16:22] <Mirv> tvoss: thanks
[17:17] <kenvandine> alan_g, i tested your mir fix on my mako, seems to fix the crash!
[17:17] <kenvandine> kdub, ^^
[17:18] <kenvandine> can you guys get someone to approve that branch so we can get it landed?
[17:18] <alan_g> kenvandine: \o/
[17:19] <alan_g> alf_: ^^
[17:20] <alan_g> racarr: kdub alf_  ^^ = https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-1245958/+merge/193225
[17:20] <kdub> great :)
[17:21] <alan_g> kdub: can you approve?
[17:23] <kdub> alan_g, yeah, we probably need ~vanvugt/mir/version-0.1.1 too, right?
[17:24] <kdub> approved
[17:25] <alan_g> kdub: I don't follow - that's for the dev branch, not lp:mir
[17:27] <kdub> alan_g, ah, yeah... didn't notice that
[17:55] <robru> does anybody know where the webapps click packages are hosted?
[18:01] <Kyle> ubot5: no
[18:01] <Kyle> erm
[18:01] <Kyle> daker: no
[18:01] <daker> Kyle: ok sorry about that
[18:55] <kdub> davmor2, Mirv, kenvandine that crashing fix landed into lp:mir
[18:55] <kenvandine> kdub, yeah, i'm building it now to land it
[18:56] <kenvandine> kdub, then we'll get an image built
[18:56] <ogra_> yeah
[18:57] <kdub> thanks kenvandine
[18:57] <kenvandine> ogra_, i did verify the fix against image 8...  no crashes :)
[18:57]  * ogra_ is watching trusty-changes ... once it landed i'll roll an image
[18:57] <kenvandine> ogra_, awesome
[18:57] <ogra_> yay
[18:59] <Mirv> kdub: thanks a lot! ken will see it through.
[19:01] <davmor2> \o/
[19:02] <popey> ogra_: a new image toda
[19:02] <popey> *today
[19:02] <popey> gnnnn.. today?
[19:02] <ogra_> popey, later, yeah
[19:02] <popey> sweet
[19:02] <ogra_> waiting for new Mir love
[19:02] <popey> feel free to ping me and I'll test stuff
[19:02] <ogra_> yeah, i will
[19:09] <snwh> is pressure sensitivity of the screen supported?
[19:18] <kdub> snwh,  i know at the system compositor level, its supported
[19:19] <snwh> kdub, thanks, i was curious about that
[19:19] <kdub> mir's touch demo client is input-sensitive at least :)
[19:19] <kdub> sorry, pressure sensitive
[19:25] <kenvandine> ogra_, it's hit trusty-proposed
[19:25] <ogra_> great
[19:26]  * ogra_ will watch until it hopped over the fence
[19:28] <rsalveti> ogra_: can we drop the "saucy" links/images in cdimage/current for touch?
[19:28] <ogra_> rsalveti, ?? current points to the last blessed daily
[19:29] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, but we also have saucy images in there
[19:29]  * ogra_ wonders what you mean
[19:29] <rsalveti> well, at least I have it here, wonder if it's a mirroring thing haha
[19:29] <ogra_> rsalveti, yes, for the SRU builds
[19:29] <rsalveti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[19:30] <rsalveti> we have saucy in there as well
[19:30] <ogra_> rsalveti, right, thats where cdimage spits our SRU images
[19:31] <rsalveti> ogra_: hm, ok, quite confusing
[19:31] <ogra_> oh
[19:31] <ogra_> err
[19:31] <ogra_> you mean *in* that driectory
[19:31]  * ogra_ glares
[19:31] <rsalveti> ogra_: yesh
[19:31] <rsalveti> yeah
[19:31] <ogra_> i meant http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/saucy/daily-preinstalled/
[19:32] <ogra_> rsalveti, will clean that up
[19:32] <ogra_> thanks for pointing it out !
[19:32] <rsalveti> ogra_: thanks for fixing it :-)
[19:32] <ogra_> (and hanging on until my brain got it :) )
[19:34] <ogra_> rsalveti, fixed
[19:34] <rsalveti> ogra_: thanks!
[19:36] <marinella> hello, i'm Marinella from Italy, i have a problem with Ubuntu Touch       WARNING:phablet-flash:--no-backup is deprecated, use --bootstrap instead error: device not found and phablet-flash:Device either not connected, doesn't have adb enabled or the property system cannot be accessed.  May you help me, please
[19:37] <popey> what command did you use marinella ?
[19:37] <marinella> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup
[19:38] <popey> marinella: so it's right, you should be able to just  phablet-flash ubuntu-system , or  phablet-flash ubuntu-system  --bootstrap, if you want a clean flash
[19:41] <marinella> Popey ,And how i can do it?
[19:42] <marinella> i have problem with this adb, how enable?
[19:43] <popey> marinella: you don't have adb installed? Did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install ?
[19:43] <marinella> not
[19:43] <futurestack> phablet-tools has unmet dependencies?
[19:43] <popey> I'd recommend following that guide
[19:44] <marinella> yes Popey  i see  it
[19:44] <futurestack> I can't get past step 1 in that guide on a 13.10 fresh iso
[19:45] <marinella> my installation from here before: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install
[19:45] <futurestack> depends on android-tools-adb >4.2.2 but it is uninstallable
[19:45] <marinella> ok so: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:46] <marinella> i have nexus 4  androide 4.2
[19:47] <futurestack> is it because I'm using amd64+Mac ?
[19:48] <popey> shouldn't be
[19:48] <marinella> thanks Popey now i see thah guide
[19:49] <futurestack> it also mentions 'python-lzma'
[19:49] <futurestack> as being uninstallable
[19:49] <popey> sounds odd, can you pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) the output of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb" ?
[19:51] <futurestack> yeah gimme a sec
[19:54] <futurestack> http://sprunge.us/BXZL
[19:56] <popey> futurestack: what do you see with "apt-cache policy android-tools-adb
[19:57] <futurestack> Installed: (None) Candidate: (none) Version Table:
[19:57] <marinella> i don't understand, but why? adb: unable to connect for backup
[19:57] <marinella> may be problem with usb connection my computer?
[19:59] <popey> i dont understand, android-tools-adb is in the 12.10 repository
[20:00] <popey> sergiusens: any ideas? ^^
[20:00] <futurestack> I'm using 13.10, should I use 12.10?
[20:00] <marinella> i have ubuntu 13.04... i don't have ubuntu 13.10 may be this?
[20:01] <futurestack> I saw 'saucy' mentioned on the install guide so I figured it was workable
[20:02] <futurestack> but I can download/burn a 12.10 image, I'm just making usb sticks to flash the phone
[20:02] <marinella> so i don't have adb in my ubuntu 13.04 now i understand for this i hace problem installation ubuntu touch on nexus 4 with guide
[20:04] <marinella> how i can do?
[20:05] <popey> it should all work with 13.04 and 13.10 as I understand it
[20:07] <popey> sorry, when I said 12.10, i meant 13.10
[20:07] <marinella> yes
[20:08] <futurestack> I did the ppa add, it said successfully imported the key... ran the update... then this
[20:11] <futurestack> I mean, I wasn't expecting the process to be easy but I certainly didn't expect to get stumped at step 1 :P
[20:12] <marinella> popey  have you a solution for my problem?
[20:13] <popey> futurestack: ok, what version of ubuntu is it? lsb_release -a says 13.10?
[20:13] <marinella> adb: unable to connect for backup
[20:13] <popey> marinella: what device?
[20:13] <futurestack> 'No LSB modules are available.'
[20:13] <marinella> i have nexus 4 with android 4.2 and i have got ubuntu  13.04
[20:14] <futurestack> I'm booting off a usb stick, maybe something to do with that?
[20:14] <futurestack> , maybe it's something to do with that?
[20:14] <futurestack> nrgh, lag
[20:14] <popey> futurestack: almost certainly
[20:14] <futurestack> ok
[20:14] <popey> you're probably missing the universe repo being enabled on the live cd
[20:15] <popey> s/cd/usb/
[20:15] <marinella> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot  --> it's ok but after i have:  adb backup -apk -shared -all :  adb: unable to connect for backup  ... bu why?
[20:15] <popey> marinella: have you followed the steps to enable debug?
[20:15] <futurestack> alright
[20:15] <futurestack> I will find something to install it on
[20:15] <futurestack> tyvm!
[20:15] <popey> marinella: i have _never_ done a backup like that
[20:15] <marinella> yes enable Developer
[20:16] <marinella> ok popey
[20:16] <popey> I did step 1, 2, 3, 4, not step 1.5
[20:17] <marinella> yes all
[20:17] <marinella> WARNING:phablet-flash:--no-backup is deprecated, use --bootstrap instead error: device not found ERROR:phablet-flash:Device either not connected, doesn't have adb enabled or the property system cannot be accessed. Make sure the device is booted into the operating system and that adb is working correctly.
[20:18] <marinella> now i'm tired i go smok cigarett
[20:18] <popey> marinella: does it show up with "adb devices" ?
[20:19] <marinella> popey adb devices List of devices attached
[20:20] <sergiusens> popey, android-tools-adb is supposed to be in saucy alright
[20:20] <popey> marinella: looks like you haven't enabled usb debugging
[20:20] <popey> sergiusens: yeah, he was on a live usb stick
[20:21] <sergiusens> popey, ah, it's in universe
[20:21] <sergiusens> fyi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-tools
[20:21] <timppa> Hi, should I be able to update trusty image to latest via OTA?
[20:22] <cjohnston> timppa: what are you currently on?
[20:22] <timppa> on the first trusty image I suppose
[20:22] <timppa> 14.04 r5 = about the phone
[20:23] <cjohnston> what channel did you get it from?
[20:23] <timppa> trusty
[20:23] <cjohnston> 5 is the latest
[20:23] <timppa> ok
[20:24] <timppa> was the image released yesterday for saucy?
[20:24] <marinella> popey  now i'm here you say: marinella: looks like you haven't enabled usb debugging.... but where in my ubuntu 13.04? yes?
[20:24] <popey> no, on the device
[20:24] <cjohnston> timppa: saucy was released on the 17th
[20:24] <popey> marinella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_2_-_Device_unlock and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Step_3_-_Initial_Device_Setup
[20:25] <timppa> trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz         29-Oct-2013 13:56  396M
[20:26] <timppa> that's the latest trusty == r5 ?
[20:26] <cjohnston> timppa: you just asked about saucy. 5 is the latest stable trusty image
[20:26] <timppa> yes :)
[20:27] <timppa> I was just confused as Ihad r5 before the update and I had r5 after update also
[20:29] <marinella> popey:Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation.... which is  password? password root my ubuntu 13.04?
[20:29] <popey> password?
[20:29] <popey> I have no idea what is asking you for a password.
[20:30] <marinella> yes why  ---> sudo adb backup -apk -shared -all
[20:30] <marinella> so :  adb backup -apk -shared -all
[20:31] <marinella> yes --- not sudo
[20:33] <marinella> there is a password... my be password from root ubuntu touch?
[20:33] <kdub> where did android-chroot go?
[20:34] <popey> marinella: as I said, I havent ever done the backup
[20:34] <marinella> i understand
[20:36] <fzeta> hi all!
[20:36] <marinella> how i can do with this password? may be password root my ubuntu 13.04?
[20:36] <popey> the password is your password, if you are running sudo
[20:37] <marinella> but password nexus or password ubuntu 13.04?
[20:37] <marinella> not nexus 4 ask  me password
[20:38] <popey> The password is your ubuntu password, if you type sudo in ubuntu.
[20:38] <marinella> yes for that but after device ask me password now i read you
[20:38] <popey> I can't help with that. I havent ever done the backup
[20:39]  * popey goes to make foood
[20:41] <marinella> popey:software device nexus 4 say: if you wish  to encrypt the full backup data enter  a poassword below....ahhhhhhhhhhh wait so i don't enter password for encrrpt and i do  back up my data...
[20:41] <marinella> yessssssssssssssssssss
[20:42] <marinella> popey smack
[20:45] <popey> ☻
[20:46] <cpined> hello
[20:46] <cpined> anyone know of a way to install Ubuntu touch on a coby kyros?
[20:51] <popey> cpined: someone would need to port ubuntu touch to that device
[20:51] <cpined> popey: Is that difficult to do?
[20:52] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting <- see that guide
[20:52] <popey> I haven't done it, but it needs some skill
[20:52] <cpined> ic....thanks...I'll see how far I can get.
[20:52] <fzeta> if anyone cares http://goo.gl/Pi9NXJ
[20:53]  * snwh is away: Away
[21:02] <marinella> Popey: smackkkkkkkkkkkkkk now i have got my ubuntu touch wowwwww
[21:16] <ondra> ssweeny: ping
[21:16] <ssweeny> ondra, pong
[21:16] <popey> marinella: yay
[21:17]  * snwh is back (gone 00:24:05)
[21:18] <fginther> sergiusens, how do you feel about adding an option to phablet-config to add .deb packages from a zip file or URL?
[21:18] <Mirv> Saviq: I believe that qtubuntu FTBFS is stopping my effort for now, do you have any idea of that?
[21:19] <marinella> bye guys and thanks popey
[21:19] <marinella> now i have my ubuntu touch  bye from italy sicily smackkkkk
[21:20] <popey> ☻
[21:20] <Mirv> Saviq: I'll put the other recipes in as well to have build results, but as a whole unity8 won't start without qtubuntu rebuild I believe
[21:55]  * snwh is away: Away
[22:00] <kenvandine> ogra_, did you get am image spin going?
[22:06] <aquarius> larsu, ping about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1099972 and thank you for your comments. I don't know how to mark it as affecting *both* indicator-sound *and* gnome-settings-daemon; can you do that? (If you think it's still applicable to gnome-settings-daemon after reading my comment, of course.)
[22:08] <Mirv> Saviq: ok unity8 FTBFS too, but qtubuntu-sensors build fine. I'll start a qt5.2 bug tag maybe?
[22:08] <Mirv> Saviq: actually only some tests fail
[22:10] <ogra_> kenvandine, no, mir is stuck in proposed
[22:11] <kenvandine> grrr
[22:11] <kenvandine> ogra_, why?
[22:11] <ogra_> kenvandine, and i'm realy tired, that might still take a few cycles
[22:11] <kenvandine> ok
[22:11] <kenvandine> ogra_, understandable
[22:11] <ogra_> cyphermox, and infinity are on it in #ubuntu-release
[22:11] <kenvandine> i'm glad i have it fixed in my image
[22:12] <ogra_> uts is broken and autopilot needs a respin it seems
[22:14] <larsu> aquarius: sure, if you give me a good reason to do so :) (I really think this doesn't belong into the sound menu's code)
[22:15] <aquarius> larsu, see comment on the bug, and then we'll argue about it :) (tl;dr: song metadata is known by sound menu and the app and no-one else, and apps should not have to talk bluetooth)
[22:18] <larsu> aquarius: no, apps expose MPRIS (or something similar). The sound menu is just one client that reads the meta data
[22:18] <larsu> aquarius: something in the bluetooth stack could also read it
[22:19] <aquarius> larsu, right, but it is totally unclear to me that gnome-settings-daemon should read that mpris metadata. I agree that probably the cleanest thing is to have *another* daemon running which does this, but that feels a lot like it'll just never happen: adding this to the sound menu would make it more likely to actually happen, and it'd make Ubuntu better than every other plaform because everyone else screws this up and
[22:19] <aquarius>  we could be great. :)
[22:22] <larsu> aquarius: fair enough. It just feels wrong in the stack for to me. I don't know enough about the bluetooth stack to give an informed opinion here, so I'll just add indicator-sound back to the bug for now :)
[22:23] <larsu> aquarius: thanks for the detailed bug report btw ;)
[22:24] <aquarius> larsu, right. I don't know enough about the bluetooth stack to implement something like this (nor do I know enough about C to do it :)), hence a bug report which did its best to outline what would be a cool feature, list all the different parts of it, and explain why it's cool :)
[22:24] <aquarius> you get detailed bug reports when I'm incapable of saying "here is a stupid python implementation" ;-)
[22:24] <larsu> haha, cool!
[22:26] <aquarius> it should probably also be assigned to $SOMETHING in the bluetooth stack, but I know so little about that that I don't even know package names :P
[22:26] <larsu> me too - I'll ask around
[22:27] <aquarius> also, the initial bug report said "and then music-playing web apps can work with bluetooth headsets, something no other platform can do", and since then iOS7 has come out and that *does* work there. I do not know whether this is evidence for doing this or evidence against :)
[22:32] <xnox> larsu: i wish notification bubles had text-to-speech functionality =) especially to announce the "Adele - Someone Like You" like it's done on some digital / automated radio stations =)
[22:32] <zbcm> Hi, where can I download the image? I can't find it.
[22:34] <larsu> xnox: shouldn't that be a feature of the music player?
[22:35] <larsu> so that it can start the song _after_ the anuncement?
[22:35] <larsu> *announcement
[22:40] <aquarius> larsu, clearly there should be a daemon listening to mpris which does the announcements, then it'd work for every music player ;)
[22:40] <aquarius> hey, can upstart listen to mpris now?
[22:41] <aquarius> it can do D-Bus stuff
[22:41] <aquarius> if so, then you wouldn't need a daemon; you could just drop an upstart user session script which listens for mpris new-song notifications and shells out to "echo $MPRIS_SONG_NAME | festival --tts" ;)
[22:41] <aquarius> larsu, that might be the solution for the bluetooth stuff, too....?
[22:42] <aquarius> I am totally in love with upstart user sessions, incidentally, in case you couldn't tell :P
[22:45] <w-flo> wait, we can use/will be able to use mpris in apps? sounds pretty cool. I disabled my mpris code because I was afraid of confinement breaking things :)
[22:46] <aquarius> w-flo, it's possible that it doesn't work right now, but there will need to be QML bindings to it, yes :)
[22:46] <aquarius> w-flo, whether they exist at the moment is another question :P
[22:46] <w-flo> well, I wrote my own using qt-dbus or whatever it's called
[22:46] <w-flo> not sure if that is even in the image though :D
[22:47] <aquarius> woah. you qualify as being tough enough :)
[22:47] <aquarius> you might want to approach the SDK people and say: you guys need for native apps to be able to talk to the sound menu: is this thing that I've written any help in getting started on that? :)
[22:47] <w-flo> it's probably poor quality, I just hacked something together until things showed up in the sound indicator thingie..
[22:48] <w-flo> well I'd rather not share that ugly code :D
[22:48]  * aquarius grins
[22:48] <aquarius> bzoltan is the chap to talk to about the SDK.
[22:48] <aquarius> ha! seb128 disagrees with larsu that my bluetooth bug ought to involve gnome-settings-daemon ;)
[22:49] <aquarius> xnox, the above thought about a tiny upstart script that listens to mpris d-bus stuff was directed at you :)
[22:49] <larsu> aquarius: I'm glad he's sitting next to me right now!
[22:49] <larsu> seb128: no cookie!
[22:49] <seb128> aquarius, hey, how are you?
[22:49]  * aquarius laughs
[22:49] <seb128> larsu, who cares, I'm keeping space for the steak tonight
[22:49] <aquarius> heya seb128! How's it going? Life on the outside is surprisingly fun :)
[22:49] <larsu> :D
[22:50] <aquarius> seb128, rumour has it that you were playing my Riddling game with kenvandine earlier in the week :)
[22:50] <seb128> aquarius, good, I'm a bit annoyed to you, I wasted one hour at the bar earlier in the week because of your astronaut bug :p
[22:50]  * seb128 shakes fist at buggy games
[22:50] <aquarius> I really am sorry about the astronaut bug. I can't even blame it on the code: the fault was just that I can't read!
[22:51] <aquarius> it is fixed now :)
[22:51] <charles> maybe we should spend all our bug time at the bar
[22:51] <seb128> thanks for fixing it ;-)
[22:51] <aquarius> and davidcalle has completed the game, so there aren't any other totally game-destroying bugs (other than the two I've fixed, but one of them got fixed before anyone got to that level ;))
[22:51]  * charles contemplates a Bug Triage Drinking Game
[22:52] <fishscene> lol charles. You'd have a flood of new game dev's and QA personel with that game…. or policy ;)
[22:53] <aquarius> charles, pah! What you want -- I've been meaning to do this for *years* -- is Launchpad Fantasy Football.  And in five years everyone's performance ratings will be based on how much they cost in Launchpad Fantasy Football :)
[22:53] <RAOF> Speaking of things-that-should-be-on-the-image: telepathy & telepathy-qt.
[22:53]  * RAOF needs his phone IM platform!
[22:53] <aquarius> that's a good idea
[22:54] <aquarius> bit vicious on battery life, though, innit? Do other IM systems on phones actually connect themselves, or use server push notifications?
[22:54] <xnox> aquarius: what was your bug? link?
[22:54]  * charles signs pitti in the first draft
[22:54] <charles> https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+karma
[22:54] <aquarius> xnox, my bug was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1099972 -- I discussed it with you when filing it :)
[22:54] <RAOF> aquarius: Shouldn't be terrible on the battery life; you just need to keep a TCP connection open.
[22:55] <RAOF> aquarius: It'll be idle almost all the time. This is how IM works on non-terrible phone platforms
[22:55] <aquarius> charles, the magic automated algorithm thingy (patent pending) would obviously work out the prices so you can't buy pitti *and* seb *and* didrocks, for example ;)
[22:55] <RAOF> aquarius: And, by “non-terrible phone platforms” I believe I currently mean “android” ☺
[22:55] <aquarius> RAOF, ah, OK. I do not know much about battery life, which is why I'm not allowed to write daemons ;)
[22:56] <kenvandine> aquarius, riddling is awesome :)
[22:57] <xnox> aquarius: ah gotcha. Wanted to read the full bug =)
[22:57] <aquarius> kenvandine, people certainly seem to have enjoyed it, even with a game-breaking astronaut bug which makes seb128 want to shoot me ;)
[22:59] <xnox> aquarius: to be honest we will need "gadgets" api / protocols eventually for: usb, bluetooth, nfs, etc.
[23:00] <aquarius> xnox, we probably will -- but I would really, really, really not like to tell app developers that if they want their apps to work right with bluetooth, they have to do that themselves. Because most won't bother. But they *will* bother to integrate with the Sound Menu because it's there all the time... so if integrating with the sound menu means you automatically work with bluetooth headsets and car stereos, then
[23:00] <aquarius> Ubuntu will have bluetooth support 126 million times better than any rival platform :)
[23:01] <xnox> aquarius: is there existing api / protocol mechanisms for streaming that type of info/notifications over bluetooth?
[23:02] <aquarius> xnox, there must be, because other phones do it
[23:02] <xnox> aquarius: last time I did anything remotely close to that I had to install their "app" on my phone and then it started to work.
[23:03] <aquarius> they just don't do it *reliably*, because app developers don't do it reliably. For example, Apple's music and podcast apps on iOS work perfectly with the lock screen music controls and with bluetooth devices such as my car. Most other music apps do not correctly report metadata for the song they're playing.
[23:03] <aquarius> And music-playing *web* apps have no way to talk to bluetooth, even if we have a native bluetooth api for native apps.
[23:03] <aquarius> but everyone can talk to the sound menu -- music playing web apps can *already* do that
[23:04] <aquarius> so if the thing which talks to bluetooth is driven by the same data that the sound menu is, then everything Just Works -- if we ever have lock screen music controls, they'd just work too.
[23:04]  * xnox notes that aquarius is talking to rural inhabitant of London who doesn't own a single bluetooth capable device, nor a car.
[23:05] <xnox> ( well my phone has bluetooth, but nothing to connect to =) )
[23:05] <aquarius> that's why I made the bug report so detailed, so it would hopefully make at least a tiny bit of sense even to people who don't have a car because they have nowhere to park it ;)
[23:05] <xnox> aquarius: i think we need to have bluetooth to car thing / integration, not for music (as that drains battery) but for calls to begin with.
[23:05] <xnox> kind of slightly more important =)
[23:06] <aquarius> well, possibly
[23:06] <aquarius> I agree we probably need calls first
[23:06] <aquarius> but I bet you half the people who *use* the bluetooth in their car use it more for music ;)
[23:07] <JurassicJon> screw talking to people, more music


[02:48] <RAOF> GODDAMNIT EVOLUTION!
[02:48] <RAOF> "The SRU team meating was 7 hours ago" is *not* a useful notification, damnit!
[02:52] <Eickmeyer> O_O
[04:58] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: it is no problem that the open-vm-tools component of the overall 1819207 will get notified
[04:58] <cpaelzer> I can add tags accordingly if that helps SRU processing
[05:01] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: done
[08:07] <Laney> vorlon:
[08:07] <Laney> ubuntu@juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-2:~$ echo $(distro-info --supported)
[08:07] <Laney> xenial bionic cosmic disco eoan
[08:09] <Laney> ubuntu@juju-prod-ues-proposed-migration-machine-2:~$ distro-info --supported --supported-esm
[08:09] <Laney> ubuntu-distro-info: You have to select exactly one of --all, --devel, --latest, --lts, --stable, --supported, --supported-esm, --series, --unsupported.
[08:09] <Laney> this seems like a bit of an annoying interface
[08:09] <Laney> because --supported-esm contains things that are also in --supported, so we would have to de-duplicate
[08:13] <Laney> vorlon: would you like to own fixing this? I think building new cloud images also uses distro-info --supported so that would need this treatment too
[08:23] <Ukikie> Laney: I noticed that and worked around it with something like:
[08:23] <Ukikie> dists=(precise $(ubuntu-distro-info --codename --supported-esm))
[08:23] <Ukikie> for dist in $(ubuntu-distro-info --codename --supported);do
[08:23] <Ukikie>    if [[ ! ${dists[@]} =~ $dist ]];then
[08:23] <Ukikie>       dists+=($dist)
[08:23] <Ukikie>    fi
[08:23] <Ukikie> done
[08:24] <Ukikie> Properly fixing it does seem like a nice idea. :)
[08:25] <Laney> also you lose the ordering if you do something like that
[09:21] <Laney> stgraber: queuebot looks to have gone away
[09:21] <Laney> jamespage: re the smartmontools backport, we'd need it for disco/cosmic too to maintain an upgrade path
[09:21] <Laney> you're lucky, I don't normally check the upload queue for backports but I was looking at one for Unit193 ;-)
[09:44] <stgraber> Will kick queuebot
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-tornado (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.5.3-1 => 4.5.3-1ubuntu0.1] (ubuntustudio)
[10:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openssl (disco-proposed/main) [1.1.1b-1ubuntu2 => 1.1.1b-1ubuntu2.1] (core)
[10:25] <xnox> Laney:  tjaalton: 3rd time lucky openssl for disco ^ looks like it's for the right pocket now.
[10:29] <Laney> :>
[10:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.38 => 2.39.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[10:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (bionic-proposed/main) [2.38+18.04 => 2.39.1+18.04] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[10:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (disco-proposed/main) [2.38+19.04 => 2.39.1+19.04] (core)
[10:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.38+18.10 => 2.39.1+18.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[11:25] <coreycb> rbasak: hello, if you have a chance in your sru rota today we'd like to see if we can get python-glance-store released to cosmic-updates
[11:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (disco-proposed/main) [1:3.32.1-1ubuntu4.1 => 1:3.32.2-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[11:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ceph [arm64] (eoan-proposed/main) [14.2.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[12:10] <jamespage> Laney: ack - let me sort that out
[12:11] <Laney> thankee
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: smartmontools (cosmic-backports/main) [6.5+svn4324-1 => 7.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu18.10.1] (ubuntu-server)
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: smartmontools (disco-backports/main) [6.6-1 => 7.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu19.04.1] (ubuntu-server)
[12:31] <jamespage> Laney: ^^ - tested via PPA builds here - https://launchpad.net/~james-page/+archive/ubuntu/train/+packages
[12:31] <Laney> cool, thanks, will look in a bit
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (disco-proposed/main) [1:6.2.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:6.2.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop)
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice-l10n (disco-proposed/main) [1:6.2.3-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:6.2.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop)
[13:09] <rbasak> coreycb: have you done a CI run against python-glance-store as well as having verified the individual fix? I don't see any CI report in the bug.
[13:11] <coreycb> rbasak: i've not but we generally only run CI for stable point releases. i certainly can though.
[13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted smartmontools [source] (bionic-backports) [7.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1]
[13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted smartmontools [source] (cosmic-backports) [7.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu18.10.1]
[13:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted smartmontools [source] (disco-backports) [7.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu19.04.1]
[13:17] <rbasak> coreycb: the bug description  said you'd run it! I don't mind how it's achieved but I'd prefer to have some confidence that the SRU doesn't break existing functionality, and CI seems like a good way to do that.
[13:17] <rbasak> coreycb: especially if the bug being fixed is particularly targeted and so the test to verify the bug fix itself doesn't exercise much of the package, which I presume here it doesn't?
[13:20] <coreycb> rbasak: it does appear to say that doesn't it :)
[13:22] <coreycb> rbasak: we'll run it. sahid, would you mind running CI for python-glance-store that since you put it in the testing section?
[13:23] <coreycb> rbasak: we are working toward having CI run regularly but not there yet
[13:24] <rbasak> coreycb: thanks :)
[13:27] <sahid> rbasak, coreycb: sure will do
[13:27] <coreycb> sahid: thanks
[13:35] <coreycb> sahid: thanks
[13:35] <coreycb> sahid: lol sorry!
[13:35] <sahid> :)
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[15:15] <vorlon> Laney: ack, I'll take a look at that (distro-info), the cpc team already had to deal with this on the cloud image building side
[15:19] <Laney> vorlon: thanks. an interface in distro-info which lets us get the union of --supported and --supported-esm would seem quite nice to avoid having to perform contortions in multiple places...
[15:20] <vorlon> bdmurray: ^^ thoughts on this?  I actually assumed distro-info --supported-esm would output those releases that are currently supported and have no separate esm data
[15:28] <bdmurray> vorlon: Could you clarify what releases you would expect --supported-esm to return right now?
[15:29] <vorlon> bdmurray: I was thinking trusty xenial bionic cosmic disco eoan; since they are all supported and some of them only if you have ESM.  Does that make sense, and am I contradicting myself vs our past discussion?
[15:30] <vorlon> for example you currently list both xenial and bionic, which are supported today even if you don't have ESM
[15:30] <bdmurray> vorlon: Hmm, well I was thinking --supported-esm should only list trusty
[15:31] <vorlon> so I think it makes sense to also list the non-LTS releases, which don't declare a separate ESM EOL date and are supported
[15:33] <vorlon> bdmurray: I'm inclined to think the common case, and the one we should therefore have as the interface is the tool, is "give me the list of all releases that are security supported, inclusive of ESM-only ones"
[15:40] <bdmurray> vorlon: For some reason I'm not able to parse that, so --supported-esm would return what?
[15:41] <vorlon> bdmurray: trusty xenial bionic cosmic disco eoan -- "I want the list of releases that are supported, inclusive of those you have to get ESM to have support on"
[15:41] <bdmurray> vorlon: then you still have to diff --supported and --support-esm to get trusty
[15:42] <vorlon> bdmurray: if what you want is to know what is currently only esm-supported, yes
[15:43] <bdmurray> vorlon: and I thought that deduplication was Laney's issue
[15:44] <Laney> No, that's what you'd have to do with the current interfaces
[15:44] <Laney> To get the result that vorlon is saying that you should get out of the box
[15:45] <vorlon> right, so cpc currently has to do: supported_suites=($((ubuntu-distro-info --supported-esm; ubuntu-distro-info --supported) | sort -u))
[15:45] <Laney> yeah
[15:45] <vorlon> and we would have to do something similar in autopkgtest
[15:45] <Laney> and then you get the releases in a different order
[16:13] <apw> why not allow both options to be specified together
[16:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (xenial-proposed/main) [2.408.47 => 2.408.48] (desktop-core)
[17:42] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Since you sponsored lsp-plugins, are you good with bringing it in from NEW?
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.408.48]
[20:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xorg-server-hwe-18.04 [source] (bionic-proposed) [2:1.20.4-1ubuntu3~18.04.1]
[21:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (disco-proposed/main) [240-6ubuntu5 => 240-6ubuntu5.1] (core)
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[22:39] <mwhudson> vorlon: could you release docker.io/containerd/runc for xenial please
[22:52] <vorlon> looking
[23:05] <mwhudson> vorlon: thanks
[23:18] <vorlon> infinity: trusty-proposed wasn't zeroed out before ESM, and I noticed gnutls26 was blocked from publication only by autopkgtest failures, which I've now confirmed are non-regressions.  thoughts on what we should do with that?
[23:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: osgearth (trusty-updates/universe) [2.4.0+dfsg-6 => 2.4.0+dfsg-6] (no packageset) (sync)


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[05:12] <cpaelzer> vorlon: I knew about lp:~ubuntu-archive/+junk/sync-blacklist/ already (as I said in the bug update that I had linked), my question was about using sync-blacklist.txt or extra-removals.txt in this case
[05:13] <cpaelzer> vorlon: I thought the latter would be appropriate and had linked an example change, but being unfamiliar with the mechanism I wanted to get an ack beofre pushing that
[05:14] <cpaelzer> vorlon: This is the proposed change (since one can't do real MRs) that I had linked https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~paelzer/+junk/sync-blacklist-adldap2-1931315/revision/906
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[08:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-1.18 [source] (focal-proposed) [1.18.3-1ubuntu1~20.04]
[08:03] <sil2100> jibel: hey! Looking at golang-1.18 in focal NEW - accepted, but we need to make sure .3 is in jammy as well (right now it's on .1), as per my comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-1.18/+bug/1977860/comments/2
[08:03] <sil2100> didrocks: ^
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[08:16] <tjaalton> sil2100: hey, about 20.04.5; mesa 22.0.x in jammy dropped some old drivers, which are now provided by a forked mesa-amber based on 21.3.7. so we could either skip the userspace hwe backports, or backport both mesa and mesa-amber. WDYT?
[08:17] <tjaalton> also, I don't think backporting the new xorg-server makes sense
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[08:28] <sil2100> tjaalton: so to make sure we don't regress existing users, we'd have to make sure mesa-amber is pulled in with the new mesa in focal, right
[08:28] <sil2100> ?
[08:29] <sil2100> tjaalton: is there a lot of goodness in the mesa from jammy compared to what we have in focal?
[08:29] <seb128> RAOF, I replied to your question on bug #1975638, let me know if you want me to reupload without that changelog entry
[08:30] <sil2100> tjaalton: since as it's the final point-release for focal, I'd like users to get the latest of the latest, since there will be no other HWE stack updates of this scale. But if it doesn't give users too much merit, then it would be just a waste of effort
[08:33] <tjaalton> sil2100: right. vulkan 1.3 support is probably the biggest new thing there
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nezha-boot0 [source] (jammy-proposed) [20220228+g0ad88bf-0ubuntu2~22.04.1]
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[08:38] <tjaalton> sil2100: ok I'll prep both for focal then, thanks!
[08:40] <tjaalton> and 20.0.5 point release for jammy
[08:40] <tjaalton> err. 22.0.5
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[08:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.764.1]
[08:50] <schopin> sil2100: if you have the time today could you have a look at the various s390-tools(-signed) packages in the SRU queues for focal, impish and jammy? The Jammy one is relatively big, but impish and focal should be relatively painless.
[08:50] <sil2100> schopin: will do o/
[08:50] <schopin> Many thanks :)
[08:51] <schopin> fheimes: ^
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted u-boot-nezha [source] (jammy-proposed) [2022.04+git20220405.7446a472-0ubuntu0.1]
[09:25] <sil2100> schopin, fheimes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s390-tools/+bug/1971959/comments/4 <- as per my comment, this bug is missing a test case
[09:25] <sil2100> Would need someone to tweak it so that it's verifiable
[09:26] <sil2100> schopin, fheimes: same for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s390-tools/+bug/1978323 plz
[09:27] <sil2100> I see there is like a testcase in the description, but I need to be sure it's the steps that need to be performed for verification
[09:36] <schopin> ACK
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[10:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.20.0-0ubuntu3.1]
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[17:41] <Eickmeyer> Hi all! lsp-plugins will not build for armhf (nor any 32-bit arch). I've excluded it as an arch in d/control so Britney probably needs to be hinted (?) as such. I've made Debian aware in a bug report, but it doesn't look like they really care, so I'm back to maintaining it, I guess.
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[19:52] <kanashiro> I got an email to ubuntu-release mailing list stuck in moderation, could anyone please accept it?
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[21:34] <sergiodj> ginggs: hey, is there a PPA with gcc 12 that I can use as a dependency to test a fix for an FTBFS?
[21:35] <sergiodj> ah, I think I found it: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/volatile/+packages
[21:38] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-archive: Did anybody see my message above RE: lsp-plugins? Should be rather trivial.
[23:08] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: what determines that it doesn't build on 32-bit archs?  The upload history goes straight from the version I uploaded to fix the armhf build, to a version which drops armhf from the arch list
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: the armhf beginning in 1.2.0 completely ftbfs.
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> Upstream doesn't care.
[23:09] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: it failed to build in 1.1.31 and it was trivial to fix
[23:09] <Eickmeyer> How did you fix? Debian didn't seem to know how.
[23:10] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: er did you look at the existing packaging in Ubuntu before uploading a new version?  the patch is there
[23:10] <Eickmeyer> I'm downloading the source right now.
[23:11] <Eickmeyer> I went from the Debian source.
[23:11] <vorlon> how's that exactly? Debian doesn't have 1.2, it only has 1.1.31
[23:12] <Eickmeyer> I upgraded based on their source and added the bits required to make 1.2 build, sans armhf.
[23:13] <Eickmeyer> I see your patch, I'll see if it can apply to 1.2
[23:17] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Yeah, the code changed significantly enough that the patch doesn't apply anymore.
[23:17] <Eickmeyer> I'll see if I can find if the code simply moved.
[23:20] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, nothing.
[23:28] <Eickmeyer> Ok, found where it is, but I'll have to redo the patch. Thanks for the pointer, vorlon. :)
[23:29] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: ok.  my earlier patch wasn't about 32-bit support at all, it was an armhf-specific fix that was needed.  was there something else that made you think 32-bit in general was unsupported?
[23:31] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Nevermind, misread the github. I thought I saw i586 as N but it's an F. My memory just recalled incorrectly.
[23:31] <vorlon> ok
[23:32] <Eickmeyer> They list armv7 as experimental. I'll apply your findings and upload with a patch equivalent to what you made before.
[23:38] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: the code would build just fine if they were just not trying to pass a bunch of -m flags to the compiler to override the defaults
[23:38] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: Yeah, no clue why they're trying to do that.
[23:39] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: They seem to be primarily developing for Arch Linux.
[23:39] <vorlon> because they're trying to be clever and make their build system give users targeted options
[23:40] <Eickmeyer> Actually, yes, that would explain a lot.
[23:44] <vorlon> fwiw I've tried a test build here and this seems harder to fix than before
[23:44] <vorlon> previous error: cc1plus: error: ‘-mfloat-abi=hard’: selected architecture lacks an FPU
[23:44] <vorlon> new error: /var/tmp/ccXx5zkQ.s:58: Error: thumb conditional instruction should be in IT block -- `clzne r2,r2'
[23:45] <vorlon> so yeah, for now I'll remove the old binaries
[23:46] <Eickmeyer> Ok, that works.
[23:46] <Eickmeyer> I won't bother with the patch then.


[06:04] <bkerensa> jono: have you checked out Oculus Rift? This technology is amazing
[06:05] <jono> bkerensa, not tried one yet, I *really* want to :-)
[06:05] <jono> do you have one?
[06:05] <bkerensa> jono: no but tbh I am going to get one the tech was very impressive
[06:05] <bkerensa> jono: mozilla had some at their all hands to show off their VR browser
[06:05] <bkerensa> they used two quadcopter to fly from bottom of golden gate bridge to the top
[06:05] <jono> bkerensa, yeah, I saw the FF VR stuff - looks awesome :-)
[06:06] <bkerensa> so if you jump in the air
[06:06] <bkerensa> your in the air dropping
[06:06] <bkerensa> 100% realistic
[06:06] <bkerensa> jono: samsung just came out with a rift thats only $199 so I think thats going to be on my christmas list ;)
[06:07] <jono> bkerensa, I am waiting for the PS4 headset :-)
[06:08] <jono> I am really excite for VR
[06:08] <jono> I think it will be awesome for games, but I am really looking forward to it's application in the philanthropic space
[06:08] <jono> e.g. training doctors and crisis management workers
[06:08] <bkerensa> jono: that would be pretty damn cool
[06:08] <bkerensa> jono: my cousin does biologist research in the marsh in SF Bay
[06:08] <jono> no kidding
[06:08] <jono> cool :-)
[06:08] <bkerensa> jono: I just told her she should film the marsh and convert it to VR
[06:09] <bkerensa> so people can explore her doctorate research
[06:09] <jono> yeah, will be cool seeing all the additive tech that comes out of it - different scanners, modeling and more
[06:09] <jono> I am just excited that the VR momentum is finally moving
[06:09] <bkerensa> yeah
[06:09] <jono> with Sony, Samsung, Oculus and others
[06:09] <bkerensa> very innovative times we are in
[06:09] <jono> so I was stoked to see the Mozilla work :-)
[06:09] <jono> no kidding
[06:09] <jono> the future is going to be amazing :-)
[06:11] <bkerensa> jono: so I have to ask... How did you meet Seth Green?
[06:11] <bkerensa> :)
[06:11] <jono> bkerensa, I was introduced to him via Peter Diamandis
[06:11] <bkerensa> ah cool
[06:11] <jono> he loves XPRIZE
[06:11] <jono> and he was keen to help with Global Learning
[06:11] <jono> so I asked him if I could come and interview him
[06:11] <jono> which he was cool to do
[06:11] <bkerensa> Thats awesome
[06:12] <jono> so we shot it at the Robot Chicken studio
[06:12] <jono> in this awesome arcade room they have
[06:12] <bkerensa> very cool
[06:12] <jono> I was also going to interview the Mythbusters, but the timing didn't quite work out
[06:12] <bkerensa> aww
[06:12] <bkerensa> that would be cool
[06:12] <jono> it was weird interviewing Seth
[06:12] <jono> as I had never interviewed that kind of celeb before
[06:13] <bkerensa> did he have a PR or Agent there to say "don't answer that"
[06:13] <jono> I have interviewed famous software people, but not, y'know, really famous people :-)
[06:13] <jono> no, it was a totally open book
[06:13] <bkerensa> thats legit
[06:13] <jono> his assistant just coordinated logistics with our film crew
[06:13] <jono> yeah, Seth very explicitly said, anything is cool
[06:14] <bkerensa> jono: is the interview on the web?
[06:14] <jono> in the 10 mins before we started all we talked about was ninja turtles :-)
[06:14] <jono> bkerensa, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgdm-O7g7dM is the cut version
[06:14] <jono> which has some awkward cuts
[06:14] <jono> there is a longer uncut version which I am going to release
[06:15] <bkerensa> nice
[06:15] <bkerensa> jono: I got to meet Macklemore & Ryan Lewis last Friday
[06:15] <bkerensa> :)
[06:15] <bkerensa> Mozilla hired them for our all hands party
[06:16] <jono> bkerensa, yeah, I saw that
[06:16] <jono> that is neat :-)
[06:16] <jono> did you get to touch his awesome coat?
[06:16] <jono> :-)
[06:16] <bkerensa> I did not
[06:16] <bkerensa> we shook hands
[06:16] <jono> Macklemore seems like a genuinely top bloke
[06:16] <bkerensa> and one of his dancers kicked my johnnie walker on me
[06:16] <jono> I have seen some interviews with him
[06:16] <bkerensa> so after his set they actually talked to me
[06:16] <jono> oh shucks
[06:16] <bkerensa> :d
[06:16] <jono> that sucks
[06:16] <jono> nice!
[06:16] <bkerensa> well
[06:17] <jono> that is cool they played the Moz party
[06:17] <jono> they are a pretty big deal right now
[06:17] <bkerensa> yeah they picked up four grammys this year apparently
[06:17] <jono> wow
[06:17] <bkerensa> I like their intro though
[06:17] <bkerensa> they talked about the country being in turmoil
[06:17] <bkerensa> it wasn't just about performing
[06:17] <jono> right
[06:18] <jono> that is cool, so long as it doesn't turn into full Rage Against The Machine lectures between songs :-)
[06:18] <bkerensa> heh
[06:18] <jono> I love RATM but his ranting gets a bit old :-)
[06:18] <jono> that's one thing I always suck at when I played with Severed Fifth, not much meaningful between song banter
[06:18] <jono> just bad English puns
[06:19] <bkerensa> jono: are you going to start playing again?
[06:19] <jono> fortunately, our audiences were mostly friends :-)
[06:19] <jono> bkerensa, I'd like too, but I just don't have time right now
[06:19] <jono> I have actually written and recorded most of an album
[06:19] <jono> I just need to lay down the vocals and mix it
[06:19] <jono> I just have loads to do at work
[06:19] <jono> bkerensa, are you doing SCALE in Feb?
[06:20] <bkerensa> jono: Yeah I plan to be there and were talking about having a Webmaker Lab for kids in addition to our booth
[06:20] <jono> sweet
[06:20] <bkerensa> but probably wont be promoting Firefox OS this year... instead hoping to show off Dev Edition of Firefox
[06:20] <jono> will be fun to catch up
[06:21] <jono> ahhh nice
[06:21] <jono> yeah, lots of new toys going into FF it seems
[06:21] <jono> that IDE in a browser stuff is the bomb
[06:22] <bkerensa> Yeah its pretty exciting stuff... I love the Responsive View tool
[06:22]  * bkerensa better head to sleep
[06:22] <bkerensa> jono have a good evening
[06:23] <jono> night, pal
[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <dholbach> jose, happy birthday!
[07:57] <dholbach> hola ara!
[07:58] <ara> hey dholbach :)
[07:59] <dholbach> ara, how's life? how are you doing?
[07:59] <ara> dholbach, doing well, how about you?
[08:00] <dholbach> doing well myself - thanks :)
[10:54] <silverlion> o/ everybody
[13:45] <jcastro> mhall119, I'm all set for this morning!
[13:49] <mhall119> jcastro: \o/
[13:59] <jcastro> url me yo
[16:43] <silverlion> aloha elfy
[16:44] <elfy> hi silverlion :)
[16:45] <silverlion> long time no read ;)
[16:45] <silverlion> everything alright?
[16:45] <elfy> heh
[16:45] <jose> thanks, dholbach! :)
[16:45] <elfy> I'm almost always about pre 0830UTC and post 1700UTC
[16:45] <elfy> hi jose
[16:46] <jose> hey elfy
[16:47] <silverlion> o/ jose
[16:47] <jose> hey silverlion, long time no see
[16:50] <silverlion> jose, well I've been online but mostly idling because of my RL
[16:50] <jose> comprehensible :)
[16:50] <silverlion> but today I had to take a surgery so I'm grounded for today and tomorrow ... means I've got plenty of time to hang around here while getting things done at the keyboard
[16:51] <jose> silverlion: you all good?
[16:53] <silverlion> jose, sure. it's been a small one to get rid of infected skin tissue at my foot
[16:53] <jose> hope you get better soon :)
[16:54] <silverlion> thankx. all depends on how the wound is healing
[16:54] <silverlion> have been cooling it all day
[17:10] <silverlion> o/ jono


[00:10] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to do fuzzy logic comparisions with imagmagick (or any other CLI program) of ~65Gb of pics to come up with dupes?
[00:12] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to do fuzzy logic comparisions with imagmagick (or any other CLI program) of ~65Gb of pics to come up with dupes?
[00:22] <ehcah> Can I mirror a couple of 16GB USB Thumdrives during Server OS install?
[00:25] <ehcah> Or is USB Raid a very new MOBO feature?
[00:34] <Daviey> Volvo: reading scrollback... i don't care much for your attitude.
[00:36] <Daviey> Volvo: If zul was around, do you think with your comments he is likely to try and help?
[00:36] <Daviey> I don't think i would be inclined to help.
[00:45] <Volvo> Daviey: If it got fixed in a while id like it. I dont think my input was bad when all i want to do is to help fix a bug.  Politichians ?'
[00:54] <Daviey> Volvo: So, which bug # is this?
[00:56] <Volvo> try to start "nmbd"
[00:58] <Volvo> Itll stop running just about directly and so the server or computer its runing on cannot be found.
[01:01] <Daviey> Volvo: yes, but what bug number is this?
[01:02] <Volvo> I guess one could give it a quick search
[01:02] <Daviey> Volvo: please
[01:04] <Volvo> If i was you, and im not trying to be bad or anything. Then id care and try to start "nmbd" and see if it dies directly on my own computer but apparently im bad and must be punished :)
[01:05] <Volvo> Daviey: Do you have any interrest in servers working on Ubuntu or not ?
[01:05] <Daviey> Volvo: no, i'm not seeing the same behaviour as you
[01:05] <Daviey> Volvo: If you have discovered an issue, and want to help fix it - it needs a bug number.
[01:05] <Volvo> But... are you really sure. Youcouldnt have been in this tiny SO_LINGERING
[01:07] <Daviey> Volvo:  http://pb.daviey.com/UYLB/raw/
[01:08] <Volvo> And its running now...
[01:08] <Volvo> Then perhaps its a query issue and then it dies like the microsoft isa servers used to do from my simple scanner in 1998.
[01:09] <shauno> similar, http://pastie.org/1326798
[01:09] <Daviey> Volvo: Really can't take this much further without a bug #.
[01:10] <Volvo> Very good shauno.
[01:10] <shauno> (I do realise how useless 'me too' is, but in the context of "it's dead out of the box", there's mine "out of the box")
[01:10] <Volvo> Something kills it. I need to pinpoint that sucker :)
[01:11] <Daviey> Volvo: let us know when you have a bug number.
[01:12] <Volvo> I guess an agressive scan against it needs to be constructed or nmblookup be run a few times and perhaps with invalid targets.
[01:12] <Volvo> Daviey: Ill smash this, nw.
[01:15] <toddnine> Hi guys.  Question about RAID0.  If I create a RAID 0 array with  mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdi1 /dev/sdi10 /dev/sdi2 /dev/sdi3 /dev/sdi4 /dev/sdi5 /dev/sdi6 /dev/sdi7 /dev/sdi8 /dev/sdi9
[01:15] <toddnine> then stop it with mdadm --stop /dev/md0
[01:15] <toddnine> shouldn't I be able to re-attach it with mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sdi1 /dev/sdi10 /dev/sdi2 /dev/sdi3 /dev/sdi4 /dev/sdi5 /dev/sdi6 /dev/sdi7 /dev/sdi8 /dev/sdi9?
[01:15] <toddnine> I always receive the error mdadm: cannot open device /dev/sdi1: Device or resource busy
[01:15] <toddnine> mdadm: /dev/sdi1 has no superblock - assembly aborted
[01:19] <Volvo> Its mounted ?
[01:21] <toddnine> yup that got it
[01:22] <toddnine> Volvo: thank you, I'm creating a chef recipe and missed that step.  Regarding mdadm and --assemble.  Does the order of the drives in the command matter?
[01:26] <Volvo> Nope
[01:36] <Volvo> Youre welcome.
[03:32] <LowValueTarget> how long do you think it would take to run an fsck on a 6.3T volume
[03:32] <twb> LowValueTarget: O(1)
[03:33] <LowValueTarget> twb: ?
[03:33] <twb> LowValueTarget: constant time
[03:33] <LowValueTarget> :(
[03:33] <LowValueTarget> not feasible to run in a few hours
[03:33] <LowValueTarget> we talking days or weeks
[03:54] <lifeless> LowValueTarget: depends on the fs
[03:54] <lifeless> ext4 can be very very fast
[03:54] <LowValueTarget> lifeless: ext4 i believe
[03:54] <LowValueTarget> err
[03:54] <LowValueTarget> 3
[03:56] <LowValueTarget> actually lifeless fdisk is showing ext3 on a GPT partition
[04:13] <StrangeCharm> how can i recompile the gnu utilities with large file support? i need to cp a Large file.
[04:24] <lifeless> StrangeCharm: we build with LFS
[04:25] <StrangeCharm> well, then something really peculiar is happening, lifeless, because i'm trying to cp some files, and getting the "value too large for defined data type" error listed at http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Value-too-large-for-defined-data-type
[04:30] <lifeless> are you on a 32bit or 64bit build?
[04:30] <lifeless> what does uname -a show
[04:31] <StrangeCharm> lifeless, i have Linux name 2.6.32-26-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 17 15:59:05 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:51] <twb> So guess what
[06:52] <twb> I have a motherboard that doesn't support PS/2.  USB keyboard works in the BIOS, and post-boot -- but it can't be used to hold shift/alt to interrupt grub
[06:52]  * Datz is tempted to say chicken butt
[06:52] <Datz> twb: surprising
[06:52] <Datz> I have the opposite problem sometimes
[06:53] <twb> Also: if you lvchange -pr /dev/mapper/vg0-my_favourite_snapshot0, and /etc/fstab says to fsck it -- guess what happens
[06:54] <twb> That's right, mountall exit(4)'s, and the whole boot just halts -- no recovery shell, no reboot, nothing
[06:54] <twb> (Because e2fsck fails on read-only LVs.)
[06:54] <twb> e2fsck -p, that is.
[06:54]  * Datz had not guessed yet, therefore was not right
[06:55] <twb> Flipping upstart
[06:55] <twb> flipping grub2
[06:55] <Datz> did you just get a new mobo?
[06:55] <twb> Datz: it's a brand new machine
[06:55] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[06:55] <twb> Datz: but it's OK, I have these problems with Ubuntu on old machines, too.
[06:56] <eagles0513875> anyone using wordpress with squid as the proxy on the server? im debating if i should have each site im hosting setup with an individual caching plugin for wordpress or just setup squid in general on my server
[06:56] <Datz> twb: well, I'm  sure you'll find a work around. :)
[06:57] <twb> Yeah, the workaroud is "hope the machine never reboots"
[06:57] <Datz> twb: that's not much of a workaround :p
[06:57] <twb> Exactly
[06:57] <twb> The other workaround is "install debian, which may be slow to change, but at least it's slow to change"
[06:58]  * twb froths some more
[06:58] <Datz> yea
[06:58] <Datz> humm
[06:59] <twb> I increase the grub timeout, and it *can* see the keyboard
[06:59] <twb> It obviously just can't see the shift key down event in the zero seconds that's allocated by default
[07:02] <Datz> ah
[07:02] <Datz> great
[07:02] <twb> WTF, the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT code is handled in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober -- which exists despite os-prober being purged
[07:05] <twb> Aaaand it reads 30_os-prober.distrib even after I dpkg-divert it, because it isn't using run-parts(8) to iterate over the parts.
[07:07] <twb> dpkg-statoverride'ing it instead does the trick
[07:08]  * Datz goes to bed
[10:41] <twb> Sigh.
[10:41] <twb> This change: http://paste.debian.net/100802/
[10:41] <twb> ...makes my lucid VM unbootable
[10:42] <twb> Or more accurately, it prevents it ever entering a runlevel, so none of the gettys start.
[12:26] <maddog> hiho
[12:27] <maddog> i have a ubuntu server 10.10 with a 3ware raid and a crypto volume. Everytime i write data to that volume, the transmission hangs every ~350mb for 30 seconds or so. I already disabled all caching functions on the controller, so i have no idea why that happens..ah, and i have plenty of entropy available (between 2000 and 4000)
[13:31] <lnx1010> Hello all, If i have several sites under my /var/www/ directory such as /var/www/site1 and /var/www/site2 etc how can i create website addresses for those sites so they can be browsed externally such as http://site1.company.com and http://site2.company.com? at the moment i can only get to them by internal ip such as http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/site1 and http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/site2
[13:33] <VirtSol> I'd like to virtualize, but my server doesn't support VT extentions. What is the best way to proceed?
[13:39] <zul> oooh....brides from russia
[13:41] <binBASH> huh? :D
[14:05] <PC_Nerd101> Hiya, I'm having trouble with upgrading form 9.04 - something along the lines of the xen kernel not being supported by later versions or something (I'm not too familiar with kernel related "stuff")...  uname -a gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/536693/  Can someone point me in the direction of some documentation on this?  most seems to be installing xen on ubuntu, not the other way around.  cheers.
[14:15] <UndiFineD> maddog, isn't it the bug where on high disk load the kernel hangs for a few seconds ?
[14:17] <maddog> it could, but shouldn't that be patched in the current kernel version
[14:21] <UndiFineD> I still encounter it on kernel 2.6.35-23
[14:21] <maddog> damn it
[14:22] <UndiFineD> I have two 1TB disks, when copying from one to the other, it occasionally stops here too
[14:24] <UndiFineD> each disk has 32MB cache and is 7200 rpm, so it is not the hardware
[14:30] <UndiFineD> maddog, http://paste.ubuntu.com/536701/
[16:40] <Doonz> has anyone cloned the boot drive and went from a 120gb drive to a larger drive?
[16:52] <ikonia> Doonz: what's up ?
[16:54] <Doonz> well im looking at replacing my main boot drive
[16:54] <ikonia> so what's the issue/question
[16:54] <ikonia> ok
[16:54] <Doonz> ive done cloning to windows boxes without issue but ive never do it with a linux disk before
[16:54] <ikonia> ok
[16:55] <ikonia> so what approach are you looking to take ?
[16:55] <Doonz> can i just take an image of the drive and then apply the image to the new drive?
[16:55] <ikonia> or is that part of the question
[16:55] <ikonia> how do you propose to take an image ?
[16:55] <Doonz> acronis
[16:55] <ikonia> for me personally, I wouldn't do that, especially if your changing the disk size
[16:56] <Doonz> well with acronis i have disk director wich allows for resizing of the partitions
[16:56] <ikonia> for me personally, I wouldn't do it that way, however I don't use acronis so don't have that much awareness of it
[16:57] <Doonz> well how would you go about doing it
[16:57] <ikonia> I would put the new disk in, partition it, and then copy the file systems across, re-apply grub and then I'm done
[16:57] <ikonia> (modify files such as fstab etc)
[16:59] <Doonz> do you know of a step by step guide i could follow?
[17:00] <ikonia> not directly, but it is as simple as partition the disk, mount the new disk, copy with recusion and permissions the file systems on to the new disk, modify /etc/fstab, then re-apply grub2
[17:13] <andylockran> highvoltage: thanks for the tip off about GOSA, looks interesting - is that what #ubuntu-server intend to use in the future for LDAP management then?  There doesn't seem to be much activity on the launchpad package other than pulling from upstread.
[18:34] <highvoltage> andylockran: not necessarilly, but lots of people use it or want to
[18:41] <sako> hey all, i am trying to get a package into my launchpad ppa... i don't know where to begin though
[19:00] <TheSov> does anyone have bind9 experience with 10.10, im switching over from slackware for the first time and ubuntu is scaring me. (not really i just cant seem to get to load the zone files)
[19:02] <UndiFineD> TheSov, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[19:04] <UndiFineD> TheSov, sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart will reload the zone files
[19:05] <TheSov> yes this i know, its not loading them
[19:05] <mrmist> what error is it giving ?
[19:05] <TheSov> even after i put them into the named.conf.local and copy them over and restart it
[19:05] <UndiFineD> did you try to upgrade the serialnumber ?
[19:06] <TheSov> *** [<IP_ADDRESS>] can't find www.redlinechicago.com: Server failed
[19:06] <TheSov> no didn't bump the serial numbers let me try that
[19:06] <mrmist> Though I don't think that would affect local queries, only prevent secondary servers from updating / make it less likely
[19:07] <mrmist> /var/log/daemon.log normally keeps quite good bind logs
[19:07] <TheSov> im going from slack 9 to ubuntu 10 im thinking maybe the zone files are not the same format anymore
[19:07] <TheSov> let me try using the example and rebuild one
[19:07] <TheSov> 1 sec
[19:10] <TheSov> hah when i run named-checkzone i get this: zone redlinechicago.com/IN: not loaded due to errors.
[19:11] <TheSov> suck i have to fix like 200 zones
[19:11] <mdeslaur> TheSov: look in dmesg to see if you have any apparmor denied messages
[19:11] <TheSov> i removed apparmor
[19:11] <mdeslaur> TheSov: well, that's not a good idea :)
[19:12] <TheSov> heh i suppose not but i couldnt get some of our apps working right and that fixed it
[19:12] <TheSov> this is very different than what i'm used to.
[19:12] <UndiFineD> apparmor needs a bind profile in /etc
[19:14] <dr4c4n> when I reload networking, why do the two additional virtual interfaces (ip alias's) that are defined, are not brought up?
[19:14] <mdeslaur> UndiFineD: what do you mean?
[19:14] <UndiFineD> i had that too with 10.04, once I created a profile for bind it worked
[19:32] <TheSov> sweet it works now, i was missing the name server A record, it wasnt required in the old version
[19:33] <UndiFineD> :)
[19:33] <TheSov> now i have to migrate users and their websites, very very sad to work on thanksgiving
[19:38] <TheSov> thanks for help everyone!
[19:45] <patdk-lap> is there a ec2 kernel that is protected against CVE-2010-3904?
[19:47] <patdk-lap> so I guess no
[19:52] <dr4c4n> nvrmind - a) typo also b) I found two methods of defining the ip aliases recommendation: Linux Administration Handbook (2nd Ed) by Evi Nemeth, et. Al
[20:09] <jeremia> hi
[20:09] <jeremia> I want to limit the amount of RAM a programm may use. does anyone know how I can do this?
[20:10] <jeremia> I already tried ulimit from a bash shell, but it didn't work (tried parameters -m and -v)
[20:17] <eriksson25> Hi, need help removing a raid 5 array. Want to dissolve it and add the disks to two other arrays instad.
[20:18] <eriksson25> First problem, umount it, it complains that its busym but nothing is open and using it.
[20:23] <RoyK> jeremia: see ulimit
[20:23] <RoyK> eriksson25: umount -l
[20:24] <eriksson25> Just found the comand, so it says its not mounted, but when I try to stop the array is still says its busy?
[20:25] <eriksson25> I run "sudo mdadm --stop /dev/md0"
[20:25] <mrmist> If you're not bothered about the contents just shut the computer down and remove the disks.  That'll sort it.
[20:26] <eriksson25> Well, if I could. I am doing this over ssh. And the disks are going to a other array on the same machine.
[20:27] <mrmist> Oh i see you're not physically relocating anything
[20:27] <eriksson25> nope
[20:27] <mrmist> k
[20:28] <eriksson25> is there a force comand to the mdadm stop comand?
[20:58] <TheSov> so i transferred all our users from slack to the ubuntu server box but now i have a strange issue. some, not all of the users webpages get served as downloads instead of actual pages
[20:58] <TheSov> anyone got a clue on that?
[21:00] <TheSov> seems to be only the php pages
[21:02] <TheSov> im guessing that means php is not working correct?
[21:03] <VSD20C> is it hard to install phpmyadmin from code line?
[21:03] <ikonia> VSD20C: do you need it ?
[21:03] <ikonia> TheSov: yes, it means the php 5 moudules are either not installed or apache is not loading them
[21:04] <TheSov> i just did an apt-get install php5
[21:04] <TheSov> lets see if that fixes it
[21:04] <ikonia> TheSov: make sure you got the apache php module, rather than just the cli
[21:04] <TheSov> im a newcomer to ubuntu my old server is slackware
[21:04] <TheSov> whats the package name for that?
[21:05] <VSD20C> well i'm trying to build a lamp and i just install the server ISO with lamp configuration.. i was hoping phpmyadmin would be an easier way to manage it
[21:05] <ikonia> VSD20C: have you looked at mysql-admin, there are big risks using web based managers
[21:06] <ikonia> TheSov: something like php5-mod
[21:06] <TheSov> thanks
[21:06] <VSD20C> hmm i haven't looked into that yet but ill do some scavenging thanks
[21:07] <mdeslaur> TheSov: the package to install is called "libapache2-mod-php5"
[21:07] <mdeslaur> once installed, don't forget to restart apache
[21:09] <ikonia> mdeslaur: thank you
[21:09] <TheSov> ok i installing it now thanks mdel
[21:11] <TheSov> hmm still doin it
[21:12] <mdeslaur> TheSov: try a page you haven't tried before...It may be in your browser's cache
[21:13] <TheSov> no good still asks me to download the phps
[21:13] <mdeslaur> TheSov: look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, do you have php5.conf and php5.load in there?
[21:13] <ikonia> a2enmod
[21:14] <TheSov> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   27 2010-11-26 10:10 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf
[21:14] <TheSov> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   27 2010-11-26 10:10 php5.load -> ../mods-available/php5.load
[21:14] <mdeslaur> TheSov: are you serving php pages from users home directories?
[21:14] <TheSov> yes
[21:14] <mdeslaur> TheSov: if so, look php5.conf
[21:14] <TheSov> public_html
[21:14] <mdeslaur> you need to enable it
[21:15] <TheSov> ahhh
[21:15] <mdeslaur> restart apache after and try again
[21:17] <TheSov> that did it
[21:17] <TheSov> thanks much sir
[21:17] <TheSov> god i never realized how much slack had setup out of the box
[21:17] <TheSov> or rather "unblocked"
[21:53] <nginx> fuck off linux FREEBSD FTW
[22:10] <osmosis> davewalker?
[22:10] <osmosis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/668042
[22:10] <osmosis> id like to help test
[22:31] <rimp> so i just added a second hard drive to my server and was wondering how to wipe it clean and set it up for file sharing with samba
[22:34] <rimp> can anyone point me to a good web source or something, please?
[22:38] <osmosis> rimp: well, you gotta know the device id from dmesg, then id use cfdisk to repartition it, then mkfs.ext4 probably