[04:41] <edbian> Ghoti_: Try simply "aptitude remove gnome" ??
[04:41] <derenrich_> so...ff3.5 in ubuntu. Is it going to be a thing in the repos or am i going to install from source
[04:41] <shane2peru> Dulak: I guess that didn't matter to me so much, just to be able to tinker and configure stuff was what I was lookng for.
[04:41] <xmedex> im doing thin client on ubuntu
[04:41] <Dulak> !ff35 | derenrich
[04:42] <edbian> xmedex: What is a multiple server setup?  What do you want these servers to do?
[04:42] <shane2peru> Dulak: thanks for the tip on wicd, hopefully that will fix my issue, very easy and straight forward to use
[04:42] <edbian> xmedex: Are you talking about pxe booting?
[04:42] <Dulak> shane2peru: np
[04:42] <Jimmio> edbian, Ghoti_: It removes everything, and I think that would screw everything up too.
[04:42] <xmedex> edbian: instead of running one server, i want to have 5 server
[04:42] <abe3k> is Plymouth really going to ship with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[04:43] <edbian> xmedex: 5 servers to do what?  Web servers, email servers, file servers, print servers?  What?
[04:43] <xmedex> edbian: thin client server
[04:43] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Maybe try autoremoving ubuntu-desktop and installing ubuntu-server? I think it would work. THINK. Not my responsibility if it breaks...
[04:43] <Ghoti_> edbian: if I remove GNOME, that will leave X behind.. I have a (more or less) headless server, and I'd just as soon remove the GUI entirely if at all possible
[04:43] <edbian> xmedex: What exactly would a "thin client" server do?  pxe boot?
[04:43] <xmedex> edbian: combine that 5 server to be 1 server for thin client
[04:43] <Dulak> Jimmio: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, removing it only removes that single package, not everything installed by the package
[04:44] <xmedex> edbian: yes pxe boot over lan network
[04:44] <edbian> Ghoti_: Then "sudo aptitude remove X.org and Gnome?"  (admittedly I'm guessing now :D)
[04:44] <Ghoti_> edbian, Jimmio: do you think that apt-get install ubuntu-server ubuntu-desktop- would do the trick?
[04:44] <Jimmio> Dulak: Yes, unless you run autoremove, it'll remove everything, because it's not needed by anything.
[04:44] <edbian> xmedex: Before you said you want to create 5 servers.  Now you said you want to combine the 5 to make 1.  You're confusing me.  Why do you need more than 1 to pxe boot anyway?
[04:45] <Dulak> Jimmio: my bad missed the autoremove
[04:45] <xmedex> edbian: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/multiple-server-setup.html
[04:45] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Honestly, I'd say leave the GUI there, just turn it off. Keeps things from breaking.
[04:45] <xmedex> edbian: take a look at there
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Jimmio: there is still ubuntu-minimal
[04:45] <edbian> xmedex: Ok, hang on while I read.
[04:45] <xmedex> edbian: i just want a better explanations on it
[04:46] <xmedex> edbian: alright dude
[04:47] <gogeta> Jimmio: ubuntu mini iso does a base net install
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Ghoti_: running "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove" should still leave you with a working minimal system
[04:47] <joker> is there a way to force X to resize the screen? (nvidia tv-out has a bug since... forever and they arent fixing it appaently so I have 1 inche all around the tv where I dont see the screen = n otask bar, no menu, etc...)
[04:47] <ytoox> hello, I have installed banshee and tangerine music share but other people on the network see my laptop but can't access the folder Im sharing
[04:47] <edbian> xmedex: Well I think the point they're making is some-what obvious & trivial but.  Here's what I get from this.  Having 1 server pxe boot every computer in your network can be slow / hard on the server if your network is large.  In this even create multiple pxe servers!  (Well duh
[04:47] <ytoox> can you help me?
[04:47] <edbian> )
[04:47] <nadine> I can't get sound from my logitech usb headset in ubuntu 9.04, it's worked in every other version of ubuntu...
[04:47] <gogeta> !ask | ytoox
[04:47] <Ghoti_> Jordan_U, edbian, Jimmio: Thanks! I'll test it in a VM before I lobotomize my server with it first, but sounds good at first glance.  Thanks again!
[04:48] <ytoox> ubottu: fine thanks
[04:48] <ytoox> ubottu: are you going to answer or rant about rules?
[04:48] <edbian> xmedex: Simply split up your computers into logical groups (according to IP) and make 1 pxe server for each group of ip addresses (computers).  Do you have a more specific question?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Ghoti_: np
[04:48] <edbian> Ghoti_: Always like to help :)
[04:48] <Ghoti_> as do I :)
[04:48] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: No problem. My server is a laptop and runs GDM constantly fyi, works fine.
[04:48] <edbian> ytoox: ubottu is a robot you know
[04:49] <ytoox> good
[04:49] <forces> how can I install firefox 3 in jaunty?
[04:49] <shane2peru> ytoox:  what is the question?
[04:49] <forces> firefox 3.5
[04:49] <gogeta> !ff25
[04:50] <forces> !firefox3.5
[04:50] <gogeta> !ff35
[04:50] <shane2peru> forces: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:50] <forces> I dont want beta
[04:50] <forces> I want the final
[04:50] <scunizi> then wait
[04:50] <edbian> forces: It doesn't exist yet for linux :)
[04:50] <forces> it was released yesterday
[04:50] <Ghoti_> forces: I think it's the beta package for the final release
[04:50] <forces> maybe tomorrow?
[04:50] <Pici> forces: its not packaged for ubuntu yet.
[04:50] <edbian> forces: It was released yesterday for windows
[04:50] <nadine> I can't get sound from my logitech usb headset in ubuntu 9.04, it's worked in every other version of ubuntu
[04:51] <forces> when will be ready for linux?
[04:51] <gogeta> forces: when its done
[04:51] <Pici> forces: After its done being tested, just like the factoid says.
[04:51] <pedestrianentran> using the mv command, how can i move ONLY directories, not files?
[04:51] <forces> ok, I have another pc with hardy
[04:51] <forces> how can I install flash 10 in hardy?
[04:51] <scunizi> pedestrianentran: so you don't want the files in the directories to move?
[04:52] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: mv -d
[04:52] <forces> and openoffice if its possible
[04:52] <ytoox>  I installed banshee and tangerine music sharing with it, but no one on the network can access my music
[04:52] <edbian> forces: Right to the point aren't we?  Do you know what the repos are??
[04:52] <pedestrianentran> gogeta: thanks! i cant beleive its that easy...
[04:52] <forces> hardy repos come with flash 9
[04:52] <Ghoti_> pedestrianentran: for a in /path/to/source/*; do [ -d $a ] && mv $a /path/to/destination/; done
[04:52] <nadine> so nobody knows anytyhing abut sound?
[04:52] <forces> and openoffice 2.4
[04:52] <edbian> forces: Then I'm assuming you can install open-office.
[04:52] <Ghoti_> gogeta: mv -d would be easier, I suppose :)
[04:53] <forces> sorry
[04:53] <nadine> I've tried pulse and alsa and no joy
[04:53] <forces> I want openoffice 3
[04:53] <forces> :P
[04:53] <edbian> forces: Are you sure you want these on hardy?
[04:53] <pedestrianentran> Ghoti: yeah i don't think move -d works though...
[04:53] <edbian> forces: If you simply upgrade to 9.04 you'll have open office 3 and flash 10 will be in your repos.
[04:54] <Hilikus> edbian how do i install flash 10?
[04:54] <edbian> Hilikus: On ubuntu 9.04??
[04:54] <Hilikus> yes
[04:54] <forces> the problem is the graphic card
[04:54] <geirha> pedestrianentran: mv */ /path/to/destination
[04:54] <forces> jaunty has problem with intel graphic card
[04:54] <edbian> Hilikus: open synaptic and search "flash"
[04:54] <pedestrianentran> geirha: outstanding
[04:54] <Hilikus> edbian:  i installed something to play flash but it sometimes doesn't work in some videos so i'm assuming its because those are flash 10
[04:54] <forces> and hardy is more stable
[04:55] <edbian> Hilikus: You are using the open source flash player (only works on some sites).  Do you have synaptic open / searched?
[04:55] <Jordan_U> forces: What problem were you having with intel and jaunty? The main crashing bug ( which also meant that compiz was disabled ) has been fixed in updates
[04:55] <edbian> forces:  Check out backporting.  It allows you to get packages from repos that are newer than your current ubuntu version's repos.
[04:55] <Hilikus> edbian i'll search for flash
[04:56] <edbian> forces: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:56] <edbian> Hilikus: ok :)  Let me know when you're ready :)
[04:56] <Pici> edbian: Err.. people actually have to package those applications for prior releases, its not an automatic process.
[04:56] <gogeta> Hilikus: flash 10 is in ubuntu
[04:57] <Hilikus> edbian: flashplguin-installer?
[04:57] <edbian> Pici: Really?  I never backported so I assumed.
[04:57] <gogeta> Hilikus: flash-nonfree
[04:57] <edbian> Hilikus: First purge all of the flash related packages you have installed.  If you have more than one they block each other out when you go to a site.
[04:57] <Hilikus> gogeta: This package is a transitional package that can safely be removed after you installed
[04:57] <Hilikus> flashplugin-installer.
[04:57] <forces> flash in hardy backports doesn't work
[04:58] <forces> the package is lost
[04:58] <gogeta> Hilikus: its fine
[04:58] <nellmathew> forces: another option is to add ubuntu-tweak to your repos (search google) and it'll add support for quickly adding third-party sources to your repos.. (openoffice 3.1, latest firefox (even 4.0 dev), ect..)
[04:58] <forces> or was remove
[04:58] <edbian> Hilikus: Did you so what I wrote??
[04:58] <Hilikus> edbian: i don't remember which ones, how can i search for that?
[04:58] <forces> ok i'll check that
[04:58] <forces> thanks
[04:58] <edbian> Hilikus: All of the ones that are green boxes are installed.  You can sort them by green / not-green.
[04:58] <Dragster2006> hey everybody
[04:58] <edbian> Hilikus: Am I making sense?
[04:58] <wuqwhu> where can I ask a vpn pptp question?
[04:59] <lopeze> Hey, one of my installation hung at Install/Select software on the Heron alternate install. I continued with my installation. Is there anyway to install the software through the command line that comes up from boot?
[04:59] <Hilikus> edbian: libswfdec-0.8-0 and swfdec-mozilla
[04:59] <nellmathew> lopeze, is it at 6%?
[04:59] <Hilikus> edbian:  so i remove those?
[04:59] <lopeze> Yeah.
[04:59] <edbian> Hilikus: That's the open source one :).  Yeah remove them
[04:59] <edbian> Hilikus: If you search "flash" none of the files that come up should be installed :)
[05:00] <edbian> Hilikus: Once it is in that state then install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:00] <Jordan_U> lopeze: Yes, did you want a desktop install or server install?
[05:00] <Hilikus> edbian: k, i'll do that
[05:00] <lopeze> Desktop Install.
[05:00] <nellmathew> lopeze, the problem is 1) you either burned at a high speed, so try the lowest 8x or something.. or 2) your cd-rom just isn't that great, which was the problem i had. try lowering the burn speed and come back here, PM me if i don't respond.
[05:00] <edbian> Hilikus: :)  Flash is a little counter-intuitive that way.  I think it is a problem.  Hopefully they fix it down the line.
[05:00] <lopeze> Alright sounds good.
[05:00] <lopeze> Thanks I"ll try that out.
[05:01] <Jordan_U> lopeze: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" should do the trick
[05:01] <Hilikus> edbian: just out of curiosity, the description seems to imply flashplugin-installer superseeded flashplugin-nonfree
[05:01] <Hilikus> is that not true?
[05:01] <nellmathew> lopeze, do you have broadband?
[05:01] <lopeze> Yes I do.
[05:02] <edbian> Hilikus: I don't know.  Like I said all of those packages are sort of a mess right now.  All I know is that you need "flashplugin-nonfree"  That is adobe flash 10 for sure.
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: The name of the package was simply changed, flashplugin-nonfree was the old name, flashplugin-installer is the new name.
[05:02] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: so it doesn't matter which one i use
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: Exacltly
[05:03] <Hilikus> thanks
[05:03] <edbian> Hilikus: Jordan_U: That's news to me but probably true :)
[05:04] <xmedex> edbian: i dont understand
[05:04] <cxo> I think i asked this before, but i forgot, how do you find the package information from a particular file in the system? the equivalent of rpm -qf
[05:04] <jerknextdoor> any help with getting a modem to work in 8.10
[05:04] <nellmathew> lopeze: what i eventually ended up doing (because i tried lowest speed, and no matter what my cd-rom would hang retrieving one package or the other - at 6%, before extracting it) is trying the minimal iso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - when you boot it up type in "cli" and go through the same installation process as you would with alternate (use an ethernet connection, not wifi) and after it's done and you
[05:04] <xmedex> edbian: what do you mean by split
[05:04] <Jordan_U> cxo: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[05:04] <edbian> xmedex: Do you have a pxe server set up now?
[05:04] <cxo> S! i tried F
[05:05] <edbian> Hilikus: Let me know if you get it working! :)
[05:05] <xmedex> edbian: yes
[05:05] <edbian> xmedex: One of the configurations is to tell the server what IP's to send the kernel image out to correct?
[05:05] <xmedex> edbian: then
[05:06] <cxo> Jordan_U, thanks, is there a way of getting more information about that package, than just the name?
[05:06] <edbian> xmedex: Just tell each server to send the image out to 1/5 of the ip addresses.  Understand?  That way the five of them cover the entire network just like the single old one did.
[05:06] <cxo> i tried -S -I together, but it didnt like that
[05:07] <Jordan_U> cxo: apt-cache show package-name
[05:07] <xmedex> edbian: i understand but how to?
[05:07] <edbian> xmedex: <IP_ADDRESS> - 192.168.51 for server one.  <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:07] <edbian> for server 2
[05:08] <Hilikus> it worked!! thanks a lot edbian
[05:08] <edbian> Hilikus: NP!
[05:08] <Jordan_U> cxo: I don't think there is a built in way to do both at once, it would be trivial to script though
[05:08] <edbian> Hilikus: You should have more faith in us :)
[05:08] <xmedex> edbian: i can see it
[05:09] <edbian> xmedex: I probably am not the best person to ask.  I have never set up anything like this before.  Perhaps pose the question to everybody else?
[05:09] <egasus> i want to ask
[05:09] <egasus> a quick question. sudo pecl install memcache
[05:09] <jerknextdoor> any help with getting a modem to work in 8.10?
[05:09] <egasus> it says pecl isnt found
[05:09] <egasus> what can i do?
[05:09] <xmedex> edbian: thanks for your help
[05:09] <xmedex> edbian: ok
[05:09] <edbian> xmedex: sorry I couldn't help more :(
[05:09] <xmedex> edbian: np
[05:09] <edbian> egasus: What is pecl?  What are you trying to do?
[05:10] <egasus> i dont know
[05:10] <egasus> http://interfacelab.com/nginx-php-fpm-apc-awesome/
[05:10] <egasus> have a look there
[05:11] <edbian> egasus: lmao.  I have never seen anyone say they "don't know" what they're trying to do :)  You made my day there :)
[05:11] <cxo> Jordan_U, I switch to ubuntu after using fedora/redhat for over 10yrs. The brain just refuses to remember any dpkg/apt commands
[05:11] <edbian> egasus: Also if you're addressing me directly start with my name like I do to you so that I notice what you're saying easier.  Thanks :)
[05:11] <egasus> :) i mean
[05:11] <egasus> i am following the steps there
[05:12] <egasus> ok edbian
[05:12] <egasus> edbian: ok
[05:12] <egasus> :)
[05:12] <didi> Is it possible to login as a different user with the gnome-terminal without using ssh?
[05:12] <edbian> egasus: You're tying to make a PHP enabled web server?
[05:12] <egasus> yes with ncix
[05:12] <egasus> edbian: and i am going to eat the nuts
[05:12] <Jordan_U> didi: su ?
[05:13] <didi> Jordan_U: Don't know. I will try.
[05:13] <edbian> egasus: lol
[05:13] <egasus> edbian: would it be problem if i only use "sudo install memcache  " instead of "sudo pecl install memcache"
[05:13] <unop> didi,  sudo
[05:13] <nadine> logitech usb headset made for the PS2 no sound on reformat install of 9.04
[05:13] <Jordan_U> didi: "su username" is the command to change users
[05:13] <didi> Jordan_U: Really cool. Thanks.
[05:13] <edbian> egasus: Ok, look at my PM
[05:13] <egasus> nope not working
[05:14] <egasus> roger that
[05:15] <mazda01> i am getting a connection refused when trying to connect to my iphone over bluetooth. what am I doing wrong?
[05:15] <didi> Another one: I am trying to mount a NFS filesystem (wuala) but the directory keeps been mounted to user and group root. I can mount it as a normal user but the owner is handed to root. How can I make the mount directory being owned by the user that mounted it?
[05:15] <cxo> How do I apt-get upgrade just one file?
[05:16] <SandGorgon> !ff35
[05:16] <juan_> hello everyone
[05:16] <juan_> I have a question
[05:16] <Adola> Do I have to install samba to get 2 ubuntu machines to share files?
[05:16] <didi> Here is the line at the fstab: localhost:/wuala /home/user/wuala/direct nfs defaults,users,noauto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
[05:16] <Jordan_U> cxo: You mean one package? I don't think there is a supported way to upgrade one file
[05:16] <SandGorgon> !nfs | Adola
[05:16] <cxo> Adola, No. Samba is only used in conjunction with Windows shares
[05:17] <cxo> Jordan_U, single package, not one file
[05:17] <Apollo2366> !ask | juan_
[05:17] <Jordan_U> cxo: apt-get install ( it also upgrades if there is a newer version available )
[05:17] <cxo> ok
[05:18] <Houba1986> hey, i was wondering, is anyone else experiencing slow flash playback full screen through firefox with ubuntu 9.04? and if so, is there a fix for this?
[05:18] <juan_> I am running a dual startup machine with kUBUNTU and WindowsXP, when I was in Windows, someone on the Messenger attacked my system
[05:18] <Adola> Well, the reason I ask is because I've got _This_ machine on dial-up, and I got a netbook recently, I can't connect to dial-up with the netbook, how do I network the netbook and this machine?  (Both are ubuntu)
[05:18] <juan_> and he telled me that he knew that I had also Linux
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Houba1986: browse youtube with totem instead of the browser :)
[05:19] <Houba1986> Jordan_U: does it work with other sites as well? or only youtube?
[05:19] <juan_> Should I have to be affraid of any leak in my Kubuntu system?
[05:20] <cxo> juan_, its very very unlikely someone who compromised your windows while in windows, could access the data in the linux partition
[05:20] <cxo> juan_, but wherever there is a will, there is a way
[05:20] <Rob235> i dont know what to install next
[05:20] <Omarman> Any word yet on firefox 3.5 getting rolled out officially on Ubuntu Netbook Remix Jaunty?
[05:21] <legend2440> cxo: i'm not familiar with rpm -qf. but are you asking for a way to find out which package contains a certain file?
[05:21] <Dulak> !ff35 | Omarman
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Houba1986: Only youtube and BBC, you can also often play the flash video with totem by looking for the temporary file flash creates ( /tmp/Flash* )and dailymotion will support playing videos without flash with Firefox 3.5. As for fixing flash itself, I don't know :)
[05:21] <Rob235> 3.5 doesnt seem any different to me, except a bit faster i guess
[05:21] <Rob235> whats supposed to be good about it
[05:22] <joebodo> eclipse does not seem to accept the max memory setting in the ini ... am i doing something wrong ?
[05:22] <Houba1986> Jordan_U: so it's not just my computer that's experiencing this problem?
[05:22] <Dulak> Rob235: javascript is a lot faster in 3.5 than it was in 3.0, plus html 5 support
[05:22] <Rob235> i see
[05:22] <cxo> legend2440, i got it, it was dpkg -S and apt-cache show
[05:22] <legend2440> cxo: ok
[05:23] <juan_> cxo, thanks, when i started linux there was an error "io.slave cannot run ... " or something like that, i ran the update mannager and the error is gone
[05:24] <Rob235> with AWN how do you make it so you can open more than 1 of the same program, i see when you load a program and the icons are different then you can open as many as you want, any other way?
[05:24] <chetnick> guys, how can i change default runlevel, in other linux distro i edit /etc/inittab, but in Ubuntu there seems to be no /etc/inittab file. Can somebody help me?
[05:24] <Omarman> Thanks.. I'll try to install the beta
[05:24] <mheath> This is kind of an odd question, but does anyone know if there is ever a time when / is mounted RW, but the rest of the fstab isn't mounted yet?
[05:25] <mheath> OR does startup remount / from RO to RW at about the same time that everything else is mounted?
[05:25] <mazda01> i can't get my iphone to connect via bluetooth. any suggestions on what to use?
[05:25] <juan_> can someone sniff in my computer while I am using linux?
[05:25] <bp0> how can i set up ubuntu so that when i plug in a usb headset it uses that for sound, but when it is unplugged it will use the sound card
[05:25] <edbian> mheath: I think I read somewhere that / is never mounted RW (that generally causes massive corruption :D )
[05:25] <Rob235> a mac
[05:25] <Rob235> jk
[05:25] <chetnick> juan_: yes
[05:25] <mazda01> bp0, yes, if you're aren't behind a firewall or router
[05:26] <edbian> juan_: Yes but if you are up to date there are no security holes.
[05:26] <mneptok> chetnick: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:26] <mazda01> bp0, sorry, mean to write that to juan_
[05:26] <unop> chetnick , on ubuntu (and debian) - runlevels 2-5 are all identical, so why do you need to change the default?
[05:26] <juan_> chetnick, what can I do to be protected?
[05:26] <mazda01> juan_,, yes, if you're aren't behind a firewall or router
[05:26] <mheath> edbian: that doesn't make sense. If that was true, you could never save a file or install anything, if you had a one partition arrangement.
[05:26] <edoceo> If I have an existing Ubuntu machine that's running the 32bit SMP how hard is it to upgrade-in-place to 64bit?
[05:26] <chetnick> edbian: if somebody penetrated his network he dont need any holes in OS. they can sniff traffic and  do MITM attack.
[05:26] <edoceo> Just add the 64bit kernel and then update all packages?
[05:27] <chetnick> juan_: protect your network (specially WiFi)
[05:27] <edbian> chetnick: I never knew that! Thank you :)
[05:27] <geirha> mheath: It's mounted read-only at an early stage, then mounted rw along with the rest of fstab
[05:27] <rnd_null> Sorry to interrupt...Quick question:  Where is the file that is written by the "Keyboard Shortcuts" app in Ubuntu?
[05:27] <chetnick> unop: i need no GUI, i want to boot to runlevel 3.
[05:28] <juan_> I am new in this and I'm not sure to have a firewall, I thought that Ubuntu had one, isn't it?
[05:28] <mheath> geirha: so its remounted at *exactly* the same time as the rest of fstab is mounted? (I know its odd I care so much, but I'm attempting something where this actually matters quite a bit)
[05:28] <chetnick> unop: i guess that was my question, how do i do that ?
[05:28] <unop> chetnick, runlevel 3 is exactly the same as runlevel 2 (ubuntu's default)
[05:28] <edbian> mheath: o that's when errors are found.  Hence the fstab option: "errors=remount-ro"
[05:28] <unop> chetnick, if you don't want a gui .. disable the GDM service
[05:28] <unop> !boot | chetnick
[05:29] <juan_> chetnick; where can I have all the tips to protect my machine?
[05:29] <chetnick> unop: isnt the runlevel 5 the same as ubuntus default?
[05:29] <unop> chetnick, no, that's with redhat, etc .. with debian.etc - runlevel 2 is the default
[05:29] <chetnick> mneptok: thanks i will check that out.
[05:30] <Omarman> Firefox 3.5 shows up as Shiretoku?
[05:30] <chetnick> unop: yes its default but not the same as runlevel 3 on most of the linux distros.
[05:31] <edbian> chetnick: I too would like an answer to juan_'s question.  Where can I find a good tutorial for tips on securing my machine?
[05:31] <chetnick> thanks everybody, will look into disabling GDM service, or upstart doc.
[05:31] <unop> chetnick, why would I tell you something that's not true :)  - go have a look for yourself, you'll see /etc/rc2.d/* match up with /etc/rc3.d/* etc
[05:31] <edoceo> How do I change my install from i686 to x86_64 ? just update sources.list?
[05:32] <chetnick> edbian: uh let me check some good web sites for that.
[05:32] <rnd_null> Anyone want to help me out with a keyboard shortcut problem?
[05:32] <edbian> chetnick: If you're just gonna google I can do that.   I have Shiretoko installed.. And yes, It's what firefox 3.5 shows up as on Linux. I love that the stable firefox stays installed as well.. WTG!
[05:33] <cxo> rnd_null, i'll give it a shot
[05:33] <chetnick> juan_: edbian You can start from here, http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm
[05:33] <Jordan_U> edoceo: You can re-use your /home among other things
[05:33] <juan_> chetnick, thank you
[05:34] <heroe_01> que tal chivita
[05:34] <chetnick> yeah, just google it and you will find plenty info.
[05:34] <Omarman> When ff3.5 final gets pushed up to repository, will it uninstall 3.0?
[05:34] <chetnick> np, anytime.
[05:34] <edoceo> yea - my vendor deployed with wrong version, now I have to start almost-all-over -
[05:34] <rnd_null> cxo: ok, i've defined a keyboard shortcut with the gnome app for that...then I updated...now it does not work and will no work...so- how to I access the file for that and edit myself to fix it?
[05:34] <edbian> chetnick: Thanks :)
[05:34] <heroe_01> chivita? eestas ahi?
[05:34] <lstarnes> Omarman: I don't think so.  It will likely be a separate package
[05:35] <rnd_null> cxo: sorry- bad grammar
[05:35] <cxo> rnd_null, the app for setting shortcuts stopped working?
[05:35] <Omarman> lstarnes, thanks.. I can do the uninstall myself when 3.5 becomes official
[05:35] <Jordan_U> edoceo: Is there any specific reason why you don't want to re-install? ( there may be a way to get the same effect you want without "upgrading" in place )
[05:35] <denbei> What is the recommended way to manage bandwidth? I've heard HTB, TCNG. But the tutorials I found seems too old. Is there any better way?
[05:35] <rnd_null> cxo: nope, all my shortcuts still work *except* for the one that opens my web browser
[05:36] <cxo> rnd_null, And it worked before the update?
[05:36] <edoceo> Jordan_U: does the server install wipe out what's already there?  If not I can install on-top-of and keep my configs (in /etc and /var/www and other odd places)
[05:36] <rnd_null> cxo: i've redefined it a couple of times and it still won't work...i was hoping that someone would be able to tell me where the file is that has the shortcut definitions...yes, it worked before the update
[05:37] <geirha> mheath: It's done a little bit sooner, in /etc/init.d/checkroot
[05:37] <rnd_null> cxo: it hasn't worked for over a year now...i just haven't gotten around to messing with it until now
[05:38] <cxo> rnd_null, Ok, give me a minute, i think i know where the file is, but i think the problem might be due to a change in X server or driver
[05:38] <bpZero> bah, i was using opera for chat and it crashed, and now it wont start again, so i use xchat now
[05:38] <bpZero> so, anyone have an answer to the usb headset question
[05:38] <bpZero> ?
[05:38] <bpZero> I was bp0 before...
[05:38] <edoceo> Where does Ubuntu keep the arch setting?
[05:39] <edoceo> How does it know to get i686 or to get x86_64 packages?
[05:40] <rnd_null> bpZero: maybe this will help... http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/how-i-got-my-usb-headset-to-work/
[05:41] <Adola> I made a shared folder on one of my ubuntu machines, how can I view it on the other?
[05:41] <Adola> (I went to "network" and nothing is there)
[05:42] <bullgard4> After 8.04.2 dist-upgrade to 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[05:42] <PS3> guys
[05:42] <ubuntuser> hey I have to press enter at the ubuntu login screen should I be concerned about a possible keylogger?
[05:42] <Wzcocoon> Hi guys
[05:42] <psycovic> is there an easy way to install the 2.6.29 kernel?
[05:42] <PS3> im trying to install a theme and one of the setting require me to creat a new folder
[05:42] <PS3> in tiles
[05:43] <PS3> how can i do this?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Did you upgrade to 8.10 then 8.04 ( skipping is not supported exept LTS to LTS )
[05:43] <PS3> it doesnt let me
[05:43] <ubuntuser> like when I have my password in and press enter I have to press it again before it logs in
[05:43] <FloodBot3> PS3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Yes sir.
[05:43] <bpZero> rnd_null, when i type in the first line it tells me it is going to remove ubuntu_desktop... don't i need that?
[05:43] <cxo> rnd_null, hmm i think its being set by gconf these days, i'm not sure where the file is, but one way to check if the problem is driver related is to manual capture the key and see if that works, check out, showkey and setkeycode
[05:44] <rnd_null> cxo:  I'm a dummy...sorry for the bother...i just found my gconf editor for metacity...
[05:44] <Wzcocoon> Like most of the guys here I have a problem I just upgraded from 8.4 to 9.4 but for some raison now all of my windows have no more buttons on the top right corner so I have to use alt f4 to close them any ides why and how to fix that? thanks
[05:45] <PS3> how do i create a folder in user share?
[05:45] <cxo> Wzcocoon, were you using an ati card?
[05:45] <PS3> i keep getting access denied
[05:45] <cxo> PS3, sudo mkdir /usr/share/blah
[05:45] <geirha> Wzcocoon: Does it help if you hit Alt+F2 and run "gtk-window-decorator --replace" ?
[05:45] <Wzcocoon> yes
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Wzcocoon: "metacity --replace" if that fixes it then go to sysetm > preferences > appearance and disable compiz ( "desktop effects" )
[05:45] <PS3> thx
[05:45] <johnnyg> how do I install firefox 3.5 through synaptic?
[05:45] <rnd_null> bpZero:  I'm not sure...I was just giving you somewhere to start...what brand/model of headset is it?
[05:46] <legend2440> psycovic: http://www.ramoonus.nl/2009/03/24/linux-kernel-2629-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-and-debian-linux/
[05:46] <Wzcocoon> will try the gtk
[05:46] <cxo> You guys are cool!
[05:46] <Wzcocoon> and let you know
[05:46] <Omarman> Johnyg, search for firefox-3-5 in synaptec
[05:46] <bpZero> rnd_null, logitech 350 "premium"
[05:47] <Omarman> johnnyg just search in synapeic
[05:47] <bpZero> but i can get it to work, i want to make it automatically switch to it when i plug it in
[05:47] <Wzcocoon> metacity did it thank you guys
[05:47] <johnnyg> Omarman: the most recent I show is firefox 3.1, even after reload
[05:47] <bpZero> and switch away when i unplug it
[05:47] <lopeze> To fix a problem where my Alternate Heron installation would hang at 6% I installed the minimal iso install. Now when I boot I am led to a shell. What do I do to get to the gnome desktop?
[05:47] <PS3> another question how do i paste something into that folder after i make the fold in share
[05:47] <Omarman> johnnyg, search for firefox-3-5
[05:47] <Jordan_U> lopeze: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <rnd_null> bpZero:  what is wrong with it?
[05:48] <johnnyg> Omarman: no luck. Blank result set.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> johnnyg: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/160-FAQ-Where-can-I-get-firefox-3.5-for-Ubuntu.html
[05:48] <bpZero> nothing, but it will not switch to it when i plug it in, and switch back to sound card when i unplug it
[05:48] <johnnyg> Jordan_U: thanks!
[05:48] <PS3> how do I paste sometimng into a share folder ? it doesn let me
[05:48] <bpZero> every time i must manually change the settings
[05:49] <Omarman> johhnnyg firefox-3.5
[05:49] <Jordan_U> johnnyg: np :)
[05:49] <mobi-sheep> PS3: Make it writeable too.  Not just readable.
[05:49] <thesandman> can someone please tell me what's going on here http://paste.ubuntu.com/207930/
[05:49] <PS3> how do i do that
[05:49] <rnd_null> bpZero: what does dmesg say about it?
[05:49] <mobi-sheep> PS3: I don't know.  I don't use Samba. :)
[05:49] <scunizi> lopeze: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <PS3> thers gonan be a way
[05:50] <lopeze> scunizi + Jordan_U: Trying it now. Will update.
[05:50] <Gunther> is there any way to connect o ubuntu desktop from windows like vnc
[05:50] <Hilikus> i have some files in a samba share and when i access the server directly they are encoded correctly but when i mount it in my other computer some spanish characters are encoded incorrectly. i don't know if it's the samba share or the mount in the end point. any suggestions to fix it?
[05:51] <PS3> some one help me please
[05:51] <Jordan_U> Gunther: Yes, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop ( you can then connect via a vnc client )
[05:51] <PS3> im trying to paste something in a share folder but it wont let me
[05:51] <scunizi> Gunther: tightvnc on windows and activate remote access on ubuntu in System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[05:51] <Hilikus> ps3 smb?
[05:51] <kilrathi> I'm having some trouble doing a release upgrade from Feisty to Hardy.  Anyone here that can help me out with this?
[05:51] <PS3> i think
[05:52] <lstarnes> !eolupgrade | kilrathi
[05:52] <PS3> i was able to create the folder with sudo
[05:52] <Hilikus> PS3: make sure your smb process has write access in the folder
[05:52] <Gunther> scunizin: i will try that,  thanks
[05:52] <lstarnes> hmm, wrong factoid
[05:52] <PS3> how do i do that
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: Are the server and client both using utf8 for file names?
[05:52] <lstarnes> kilrathi: there's a qay to upgrade to fiesty then to gutsy then to hardy
[05:53] <Hilikus> PS3: what user are you using to mount the share?
[05:53] <PS3> i have no idea
[05:53] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: they are both ubuntu 9.01
[05:53] <lstarnes> kilrathi: but since feisty and hardy are unsupported there's a special process for doing it.  I'll see if I can find the page related to it
[05:53] <PS3> im kinda net
[05:53] <PS3> new
[05:53] <Hilikus> PS3: can you access you remote share at all?
[05:53] <Hilikus> ps3 or this is all local still?
[05:54] <Gunther> how to install jdk5 and netbeans on ubuntu using apt-get
[05:54] <Jordan_U> lstarnes: Hardy is still supported since it's LTS :)
[05:54] <Gunther> can anyone help ?
[05:54] <lstarnes> Jordan_U: but feisty and gutsy aren't
[05:54] <mneptok> !info netbeans
[05:54] <PS3> i think i can only view
[05:54] <PS3> i think i have to switch to root
[05:55] <PS3> brb
[05:55] <lstarnes> kilrathi: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[05:55] <Hilikus> ps3 im not sure what youre doing. did you mount the share already?
[05:55] <PS3> i wait
[05:55] <PS3> 1 sec
[05:55] <PS3> brb
[05:55] <Gunther> ubottu: can you tell me how to install, I'm new to linux and ubuntu
[05:56] <boxjon> the real firefox 3.5 where is it!
[05:56] <lstarnes> !ff35 | boxjon
[05:56] <cazz> in my van, come child!
[05:56] <cazz> lol
[05:56] <bullgard4> After dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[05:56] <kilrathi> lstarnes: checking it out now.. thanks!
[05:56] <boxjon> ok thankies
[05:57]  * scunizi snickers.. ubottu strikes again
[05:58] <scunizi> Gunther: once you get the desktop installed you can use Synaptic package manager to install netbeans
[06:00] <boxjon> its all quiet lol
[06:00] <e0n`> hmm
[06:00] <e0n`> I remember something somewhere about ubuntu server having a cluster utility built in, or was that eucalyptus the cloud computing software
[06:01] <scunizi> me thinks it's the lull before the next release
[06:01] <spvensko> has anyone here successfully run ubuntu on a newer macbook pro? i've heard reports that it and ubuntu have a tendency to kill MBPs due to heat regulation issues and i'm not sure if this is Apple FUD or a legit concern
[06:01] <boxjon> next release?
[06:01] <boxjon> like, karmic/
[06:02] <lstarnes> boxjon: yes
[06:02] <scunizi> boxjon: there's always a next release.. typically just before it's official release there is a lull here.. quiet times
[06:02] <boxjon> wehn is that scheduled to come out
[06:02] <lstarnes> boxjon: october
[06:02] <boxjon> tyvm
[06:02] <Jordan_U> spvensko: I have run it on an older macbook-pro, and since the fans are regulated by the firmware ( though you can manually override it's default settings, I am pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't ) I don't see how it would.
[06:02] <phrontist> how can I check how a HDD is partitioned?
[06:02] <lstarnes> boxjon: it's 9.10 so month 10 of 2009
[06:03] <boxjon> o i c
[06:03] <Giraffe_> has anybody else been getting savage lag spikes from firefox 3?
[06:03] <spvensko> Jordan_U, have any experience running debian on it?
[06:03] <Adola> I can't set any folders to NFS, only samba.  What's wrong with it?
[06:04] <phrontist> in other words, how can I check how many partitions a particular mounted drive has?
[06:04] <phrontist> (and of what type)
[06:04] <Jordan_U> spvensko: Yes, though I havn't used the machine for a while.
[06:04] <Dulak> phrontist: sudo fdisk -l
[06:05] <spvensko> Jordan_U, may I PM you?
[06:05] <SandGorgon> anyone know where is the tarball for FF 3.5 AMD64 ?
[06:05] <mobi-sheep> SandGor
[06:06] <phrontist> so, I want to do a clean reinstall of Ubuntu, but I don't want to lose about 100GB of stuff in my home directory
[06:06] <mobi-sheep> SandGorgon: Not on Mozilla site?
[06:06]  * mobi-sheep will look for you.
[06:06] <phrontist> any way to pull that off, if it's all on the same partition?
[06:06] <SandGorgon> i can only see 32 bit
[06:07] <mobi-sheep> SandGorgon: This? http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.5&os=linux&lang=en-US ?
[06:07] <SandGorgon> crap .. i think 64 bit firefox 3.5 is not gonna happen http://blog.cosmix.org/2009/06/23/we-don%E2%80%99t-have-64-bit-support-for-linux-in-3-5/
[06:07] <scunizi> phrontist: create a partition large enough to accomidate the data and copy it there.. including the hidden directories.. then create 2 new partitions.. 8gigs for / (root) and 1 gig for /swap
[06:07] <boxjon> other then kernel 2.6.30 any improved or new features in Karmic?
[06:07] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: there should be a package available for it
[06:07] <lstarnes> boxjon: ask in #ubuntu+1.  that channel is speficially for karmic
[06:08] <lstarnes> !ff35 | SandGorgon
[06:08] <scunizi> phrontist: then reinstall using the new partitions
[06:08] <boxjon> ok i will
[06:08] <thesandman> Can anyone tell me why I cant use my brasero, and K3B software to copy and burn cd/dvd?
[06:08] <SandGorgon> lstarnes, look at the blog post - 64 bit FF is crippled
[06:08] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: I have had no issues with the PPA builds of it
[06:08] <phrontist> scunizi: I only have 13GB of free space though :-/
[06:09] <scunizi> phrontist: external usb drive?
[06:09] <SandGorgon> lstarnes, neither do i , but apparently the javascript engine is going to be 32 bit only... that's the thing they dont tell u
[06:09] <phrontist> scunizi: well, I have one, and it has the space, but it's FAT32 :-/
[06:09] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: I haven't heard anything about that from mozilla
[06:09] <phrontist> and I have a bunch of files with illegal file names
[06:09] <rargueta> hi, my problem is howto configure my resolucion video
[06:09] <phrontist> characters like "\" and such
[06:09] <scunizi> phrontist: reformat it to ext3 if that's possible
[06:09] <SandGorgon> lstarnes, http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/tracemonkey-demo/#comment-209
[06:09] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: and it would make no sense for thr javascript engine to work only on 32-bit when it can be compiled from source
[06:09] <lstarnes> http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/tracemonkey-demo/#comment-209
[06:09] <lstarnes> oops
[06:10] <boxjon> wow its even more quiet over there
[06:10] <scott_nwoktech> Long live ubuntu!! death to centos!!
[06:10] <scott_nwoktech> full convert speaking there
[06:10] <bazhang> !ot > scott_nwoktech
[06:10] <phrontist> scunizi: sadly, it's on loan from someone who has a ton of data on it I can't remove
[06:10] <phrontist> *bangs head*
[06:11] <ajamison5579> http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1202920
[06:11] <ajamison5579> :)
[06:11] <ajamison5579> someone wants evolution working
[06:12] <halberd> I want to use 2 finger scrolling, but my /etc/X11/xorg.conf looks like a stub, with no section for the touchpad and only very brief sections for a few other things
[06:12] <bazhang> ajamison5579, dont paste that here
[06:13] <halberd> where is the touchpad being configured if not in xorg.conf?
[06:13] <ajamison5579> ok chief
[06:14] <SandGorgon> halberd, /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[06:14] <ajamison5579> sorry i found it comical
[06:14] <rargueta> #ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <ajamison5579> ?
[06:15] <halberd> SandGorgon, how do I enable touchpad scrolling then?
[06:15] <halberd> 2 finger scrolling
[06:16] <SandGorgon> halberd, no idea.. just knew about that file
[06:16] <halberd> also I'm not 100% sure it is a synaptic touchpad
[06:17] <phrontist> help me interpret this: http://pastebin.com/d75cb69d1
[06:18] <phrontist> how many partitions do I have, how big are they?
[06:18] <phrontist> is it likely that my OS stuff is in a seperate one?
[06:18] <phrontist> (the visual dialog ubuntu presents shows an "OS" drive, which gives me hope)
[06:19] <phrontist> is there any way to see that in non-block units? (GB?)
[06:19] <cxo> phrontist, df -h
[06:19] <scunizi> phrontist: you have 6 partitions on drive one and one on drive 2
[06:19] <chachin> anyone here knows who owns #idlerpg :o
[06:20] <cxo> phrontist, fdisk -l
[06:20] <bazhang> chachin, ask for #channel support in #freenode
[06:20] <scunizi> phrontist: one of the partitions is actually and extended partition.. so officially 5 partitions
[06:20] <chachin> i need to talk to the bot's owner :(
[06:20] <chachin> nvm
[06:21] <phrontist> I'm confused
[06:21] <phrontist> http://pastebin.com/d7454041a
[06:21] <phrontist> that's the output of du -h
[06:22] <chetnick> can anybody tell me how to connect to wpa protected wifi using terminal?
[06:22] <phrontist> which shows me as having a 200GB HDD
[06:22] <boxjon> sorry for the foolish qustions earlier im kinda new to xchat
[06:22] <phrontist> but I thought it was 500GB
[06:22] <halberd> what is the purpose of "lock to panel" for panel items?
[06:22] <halberd> it just prevents me from moving them until I uncheck the box, does it do anything else
[06:22] <lopeze> Does anyone know of a full tutorial to completing a Minimal iso install?
[06:22] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 chetnick
[06:22] <chetnick> halberd: you cant move them.
[06:22] <scunizi> phrontist: that's reporting on either sda3 or sda6 hard to tell
[06:23] <halberd> chetnick, but I can move them if I uncheck the box
[06:23] <Jade> holy hell, that's a lot of users...
[06:23] <Jade> oh sorry!
[06:23] <chetnick> halberd: yes
[06:23] <halberd> what use would a feature that just prevents me from moving them be?
[06:23] <halberd> why would I ever want that?
[06:23] <SJr> My CPU while using wine and VMWare basically sits in the wa state 90% of the time.
[06:23] <scunizi> phrontist: you have a fat32 partition that looks pretty big
[06:24] <chetnick> halberd: lets say you start program that will show up on panel ..... it wont be able to push or move locked icons.
[06:24] <chetnick> locked one will be always where its locked.
[06:24] <halberd> ok
[06:24] <phrontist> scunizi: yeah, that's the portable HDD
[06:24] <[WOLF]Roscoe> I'm rather new to Ubuntu and the Gnome shell.  Would somebody mind answering a question for me?
[06:25] <phrontist> but my MP3's have crazy unicode characters in their filenames
[06:25] <scunizi> phrontist: not likely unless all the other partitions are also on the portable
[06:25] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: nobody will answer you that question. just ask.
[06:25] <halberd> chetnick, new programs that I start don't show up on the panel, do they?
[06:25] <halberd> I don't think there's a way to enable that
[06:25] <phrontist> scunizi: oh reaaallly...
[06:25] <chetnick> halberd: some of them, skype does, vlc does, etc ....
[06:25] <chetnick> pidgin does too.
[06:25] <halberd> oh yeah
[06:25] <[WOLF]Roscoe> Chetnick: Fair enough.  How the hell do I get my taskbar back?
[06:26] <phrontist> which is this large fat32 partition?
[06:26] <halberd> I guess xchat does that
[06:26] <scunizi> phrontist: sda is drive 1... sdb is drive 2 .. sdc is drive 3 etc.. sda1-6 are partitions on drive 1
[06:26] <scunizi> phrontist: sda2
[06:26] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: you have any left?
[06:26] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: top bottom?
[06:26] <[WOLF]Roscoe> Bottom is gone, top is still there
[06:26] <[WOLF]Roscoe> But doesn't show minimized program windows
[06:27] <phrontist> scunizi: how big is it?
[06:27] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: right click on the empty space of the top one, and click add new panel.
[06:27] <phrontist> (wth is it presented in sectors... why isn't there a -h option?)
[06:27] <scunizi> phrontist: I can't tell by block size.. but you might be able to mount it and then check it
[06:27] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: after that, right click on newly created panel and click add to panel, and than find minimized windows, or something like that.
[06:28] <halberd> how do I find if my touchpad is synaptics or not?
[06:28] <chetnick> can anybody tell me how to connect to wpa protected wifi using terminal?
[06:28] <scunizi> halberd: you might try lspci in a terminal
[06:28] <phrontist> ohhhhhhh
[06:28] <halberd> chetnick, you use iwconfig
[06:28] <phrontist> the FAT32 is a dell rescue thing
[06:28] <halberd> scunizi, lspci shows nothing relevant as far as I can see
[06:28] <halberd> it doesn't show touchpads
[06:28] <chetnick> halberd: hehe, how? iwconfig wont work without wpa_supplement ....
[06:28] <scunizi> halberd: try sudo lshw.. you'll get lots more info
[06:29] <[WOLF]Roscoe> chetnick, thanks very much
[06:29] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: np, anytime.
[06:29] <halberd> scunizi, I tried lshw and looked through it but didn't see anything that said touchpad or mouse
[06:29] <phrontist> scunizi: not very big... 2GB or so :-/
[06:29] <halberd> I'll try a grep
[06:29] <scunizi> phrontist: sda1 might be the media button ..
[06:30] <phrontist> media button?
[06:30] <chetnick> halberd: i know how to connect to wpa using iwconfig, but not wpa, i found how to connect to wpa using wpa_supplement, but in 9.04 wpa_supplement.conf does not exist, so something is changed ... and now i am stuck.
[06:30] <phrontist> well in any case
[06:30] <halberd> yeah grep shows nothing in lshw that says either pad or mouse
[06:30] <phrontist> what I need to do is rename all my mp3's to remove bad characters
[06:31] <halberd> chetnick, I thought it was wpa_supplicant
[06:31] <scunizi> halberd: how 'bout wacom?
[06:31] <soreau> phrontist: You could probably write a one liner in bash (ask in #bash)
[06:31] <phrontist> the perl "rename" utility should do it
[06:31] <phrontist> I'm kind of hesitant though
[06:31] <halberd> scunizi, no... although funny coincidence I do also own a wacom tablet
[06:32] <scunizi> phrontist: copy some of the files to a different directory and try it there.
[06:32] <phrontist> scunizi: oh, not about that
[06:32] <phrontist> I'm confident I can make it work properly (though I will test on a small case first)
[06:33] <phrontist> I'm just afraid I'll overwrite something inadvertaently
[06:33] <phrontist> if I have fæl.mp3 and fael.mp3
[06:34] <SnakDoc> any of you use lilo instead of grub ?
[06:34] <phrontist> SnakDoc: I would avoid LILO if possible
[06:35] <halberd> this touchpad has an annoyingly shorter shift key, it doesn't extend all the way below the enter key
[06:35] <SnakDoc> whats difference ? kind of what i was wondering haven't seen much about it
[06:35] <halberd> that's a nuisance for me, when I want to type a pipeline |
[06:35] <Campfire> how do fdisk on ubuntu on a lap top with only one slot for a hard drive in terminal to tranfer to none working pc
[06:35] <phrontist> LILO is, as I understand it, just a less featurful bootloader that's semi-deprecated
[06:35] <phrontist> it's smaller, I think
[06:35] <phrontist> which might make it useful in embedded apps or something
[06:36]  * phrontist shrugs
[06:36] <phrontist> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO
[06:36] <SnakDoc> ok just wounder :)
[06:37] <koshari> phrontist can you use easytag?
[06:37] <Campfire> can i ask a question
[06:37] <phrontist> koshari: yes, and I have :-)
[06:37] <phrontist> that's kind of the problem
[06:37] <phrontist> now I have mp3's with crazy unicode chars in them
[06:38] <phrontist> that i can't backup to a FAT32 partition
[06:38] <phrontist> which is all I've got :-/
[06:38] <phrontist> long story...
[06:38] <phrontist> anyway "rename" will avoid overwrite by default
[06:38] <phrontist> so that's the ticket
[06:38] <phrontist> thanks for all your help scunizi
[06:38] <scunizi> phrontist: :)
[06:39] <Campfire> get help and try to help other people
[06:39] <Campfire> you rick
[06:39] <Campfire> rock
[06:39] <WIGGMPk> Can someone explain why I have a /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server ??? I never installed any server images or kernels
[06:40] <halberd> I heard that in avant window navigator, you can slide it to one side or the other
[06:40] <halberd> is that true?
[06:40] <halberd> I want to put it over to the left of the bottom of the screen
[06:40] <WIGGMPk> that depends on what "it" is
[06:41] <Campfire> modules mean its a program?
[06:41] <Campfire> or you have to make install
[06:41] <Hilikus> what determines the permission in the client of a samba share once mounted?
[06:42] <Hilikus> for some reason the mount point is root:sambashare but when i mount the share it becomes all 115:ntp
[06:42] <WIGGMPk> Hilikus: whoever set the samba share up, determines user permission..
[06:42] <Campfire> i never tryed samba
[06:43] <Campfire> hows samba treating you
[06:43] <Hilikus> WIGGMPk: in the server side i have everything using something different altogether
[06:43] <mase_work> Campfire: it's pretty useful. I replaced a windows 2k8 fileserver recently because it was having performance issues
[06:43] <bazhang> Campfire, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:43] <WIGGMPk> Hilikus: I have no idea what you are trying to tell me
[06:43] <Campfire> ok
[06:43] <jeffs> hi...can any one show me how to use the 3d desktop switcher??
[06:44] <bazhang> jeffs, the cube?
[06:44] <P_Kable> hi, someone has nfs server installed ? where are LOGS ?
[06:45] <Hilikus> WIGGMPk: the permisions of the folders in the server are ok to be shared. they have rw access and the client uses that same user to mount it. problem is once the client mounts it, it sees the permissions screwed. not to what they are in the server
[06:45] <bazhang> jeffs, install ccsm, make sure you have the 3D drivers for your card, and set (in general) of ccsm virtual horizontal desktops to 4
[06:45] <bazhang> !ccsm | jeffs
[06:45] <mase_work> P_Kable: i dunno about LOGS , but the log files are located in /var/log/ i imagine. proabably /var/log/nfs or something like that
[06:45] <P_Kable> mase_work=> that's my problem
[06:46] <P_Kable> it is not there
[06:46] <P_Kable> :D
[06:46] <mase_work> the nfs config files should tell you where they log to , otherwise syslog will tell you
[06:46] <angel12> hey guys quick question: i just install ubuntu server 9.04, and now after a reboot i cannot reload apt or install any packages, but i can ping the us.archive.ubuntu.com server
[06:46] <mase_work> P_Kable: that wasn't the problem you stated.
[06:46] <WIGGMPk> Hilikus: im not sure then.. if you have the permission set properly then it should work
[06:47] <P_Kable> anyway I don't find any log for NFS (that's my problem)
[06:47] <halberd> angel12, what a coincidence I also just installed 9.04 (upgrade from 8.10)
[06:47] <halberd> like just finished half an hour ago
[06:47] <P_Kable> anyone with nfs-kernel-server installed ?
[06:47] <\\`oot> Howdy everyone
[06:47] <mase_work> P_Kable: what does the nfs config file list for logging  ? does it have its own log file or does it use syslog ?
[06:47] <\\`oot> Anyone upgrade to FireFix 3.5 yet?
[06:48] <u_dparte> anyone that's running 9.04 w/ an nvidia card I highly recommend installing the 185 driver from nvidia ... fixed a ton of issues as well as performance
[06:48] <bazhang> !ff35 | \\`oot
[06:48] <P_Kable> i don't know where the conf file is either mase_work :)
[06:48] <nellmathew> lopeze, how'd it go?
[06:48] <\\`oot> bazhang: Perfect... I like getting in on the 'testing'...
[06:49] <P_Kable> /etc/exports jsute has share definitions
[06:49] <P_Kable> just*
[06:50] <angel12> apt just tries to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com and then doesnt connect
[06:50] <angel12> any ideas?
[06:50] <mase_work> angel12:  try a different archive ?
[06:50] <vise> Hi.. I installed Qemu and SDL on my ubuntu 8.10... But qemu cannot initialize SDL since, as i found on the web, SDL in ubuntu does not get the frame buffer. Can someone suggest a workaround. I really need to run Qemu..
[06:50] <angel12> mase_work:  im trying to apt-get update
[06:51] <angel12> it just worked about 15 minutes ago
[06:51] <u_dparte> angel12, you need to modify your sources to look for another repo
[06:51] <angel12> i cant install any packages from apt
[06:51] <mase_work> angel12: i don't see how that prevents you from trying a different server
[06:51] <u_dparte> but apt-get update is working fine for me and I'm using us.archive
[06:52] <mase_work> dns issue maybe ?
[06:52] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys is there any kind of keyboard shortcut or anything that when I want to have an app open and a nautilus window open that I can press a key combination or do something to make it faster to get both windows side by side using the whole desktop rather than manually resizing each and every time? Just wondering it would be very helpful.
[06:52] <angel12> i can ping it fine
[06:53] <mase_work> angel12: that doesn't mean that it's pinging the right server :)
[06:53] <mase_work> what IP address do you get for it?
[06:53] <sagredo> yo crew
[06:53] <sagredo> what's up
[06:53] <angel12> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:54] <u_dparte> angel12, i get <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:54] <lucax1> #remastersys
[06:54] <vise> Hi.. I installed Qemu and SDL on my ubuntu 8.10... But qemu cannot initialize SDL since, as i found on the web, SDL in ubuntu does not get the frame buffer. Can someone suggest a workaround. I really need to run Qemu..
[06:54] <lucax1> any ideas about that program?
[06:55] <bullgard4> After dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[06:55] <bazhang> lucax1, uck is easier imo there are other options as well
[06:55] <bazhang> !remaster | lucax1
[06:55] <u_dparte> vise, why qemu?
[06:55] <u_dparte> why not something like virtualbox or wine?
[06:56] <koshari> whats shiretoko?
[06:56] <lucax1> i want to make it out of my current installation
[06:56] <angel12> ugg
[06:56] <vise> u_dparte, I do osdev, and I need something that quickly goes through the bios stage, since i code and run pretty often...
[06:56] <angel12> im a b00n, i turned on the firewall lol
[06:57] <bazhang> lucax1, a clone?
[06:57] <bullgard4> What is the command-line command to switch on a WiFi adapter having the driver ipw2200?
[06:57] <u_dparte> vise, ic ... can't help you then, I don't have any exp. with it
[06:58] <shahalam> hi all
[06:58] <lucax1> bazhang: yeah i want to make a dist type cd with my current ubuntu... like one of the options of remastersys, but the thing is that ive installed the 2.6.30 kernel, and for some reason remastersys doesnt work with it... i can do it with 2.6.28 kernel but not .30
[06:58] <u_dparte> bullgard4, when I need to switch wifi interfaces I do sudo ifconfig <wifi interface> down
[06:58] <u_dparte> sudo ifconfig <other wifi interface> up
[06:58] <vise> u_dparte, Have you ever run qemu/virtualbox for windows, in wine? Or that would be too slow.. :(
[06:58] <sagredo> yo crew
[06:59] <sagredo> whilst
[06:59] <sagredo> trying to connect to the internet
[06:59] <shahalam> i plan to buy a tv tuner card can any one suggest me a good one compatible with ubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:59] <sagredo> what should I install
[06:59] <u_dparte> I've run XP/osX in virtualbox without any issues
[06:59] <sagredo> to get the little wireless icon in my taskbar
[06:59] <sagredo> so I can click it and see available networks
[06:59] <koshari> shahalam usb or pci?
[06:59] <mase_work> u_dparte: OSX works in VB ?
[06:59] <shahalam> pci
[06:59] <u_dparte> mase_work,  ... very carefully
[06:59] <koshari> dvico ones work well
[07:00] <u_dparte> mase_work, it's not what you would call stable
[07:00] <Wzcocoon> Hello every body, I just ugraded to 9.4 and under 8.4 I coud use compix with my graphic cart nvidia but now I cannot any longer any idea what can be adjusted to make it work? thank
[07:00] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, have you install nvidia drivers?
[07:00] <dangerdave> Is there an official AMI for 9.04, or are there only AMIs for Intrepid and Hardy?
[07:00] <Wzcocoon> I have the driver 180.44 installed
[07:01] <BlackDex> hello there
[07:01] <BlackDex> i have a problem with my hdd
[07:01] <BlackDex> when i run e2fsck -f i get a view questions
[07:01] <u_dparte> have you run sudo nividia-config
[07:01] <BlackDex> and i don't realy know what they do
[07:01] <Wzcocoon> nop
[07:01] <u_dparte> try that first
[07:01] <Wzcocoon> will do that now
[07:01] <BlackDex> entry x has an invalide inode. clear (y)
[07:01] <u_dparte> it will setup your xorg.conf
[07:01] <BlackDex> What happens when i select yes?
[07:01] <BlackDex> does it remove the associated file
[07:01] <mase_work> u_dparte: we have a piece of software that we wanted to test in OSX but the macbook we have is broken. So we have a free licence and all we wanted bought the macbook for was testing an application that we had written
[07:01] <shahalam> thanks koshari
[07:02] <Wzcocoon> sudo: nividia-config: command not found
[07:02] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: just run "e2fsck -f -y"
[07:02] <BlackDex> WIGGMPk: i did that
[07:02] <bazhang> Wzcocoon, nvidia
[07:02] <BlackDex> but then it complains about having it to run manualy
[07:02] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, lemme check real quick .. i just ran it for the 185 driver
[07:02] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: what do you mean 'complains'
[07:03] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, nvidia-xconfig
[07:03] <BlackDex> it gives me an kind of error message.. saying that i have to run e2fsck manually.. without -a or -p
[07:03] <BlackDex> ah
[07:03] <BlackDex> wait
[07:03] <BlackDex> you have -y
[07:03] <FloodBot3> BlackDex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <BlackDex> tssss
[07:03] <Wzcocoon> I just got WARNING messqges
[07:03] <u_dparte> mase_work, I would suggest doing a google search for how to run osX ... it's not really supported esp. in here
[07:04] <BlackDex> but clearing an inode wont remove the file?
[07:04] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: why are you running fsck anyway? if the drive is marked clean then you dont need to run it
[07:04] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, did you run as sudo?
[07:04] <Wzcocoon> yes
[07:05] <mase_work> u_dparte: just interesting to note, it's not high on our priority list as we only have a few customers that care and they are reasonably technical.
[07:05] <BlackDex> WIGGMPk: well during boot. it gave an error
[07:06] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: then you dont need the -f to run it if there is an error.. -f forces checking even if the filesystem is marked clean
[07:06] <u_dparte> mase_work, ya - I don't really use osX except for testing ... and walking clients through installs etc...
[07:06] <mase_work> u_dparte: yeh its not my cup of tea either
[07:07] <WIGGMPk> mase_work: installed MAC OSX on ANYTHING other than Apple hardware violates the EULA and is not for a good topic of conversation in this chat.
[07:07] <Thingymebob> Wzcocoon: Had similar with mine had to add the following to the "screen" section in my xorg.conf
[07:07] <Thingymebob> Option	"AddARGBGLXVisuals"	"True"
[07:08] <mase_work> WIGGMPk: ah crap
[07:08] <lucax1> this is giving me a really really hard time...
[07:08] <u_dparte> WIGGMPk, ... not true ... if you look at their license it is now a 1 machine agreement ... however you are right that is irrelevant
[07:08] <WIGGMPk> mase_work: im not saying "it cant be done" but it definitely is frowned upon in here and by Apple
[07:08] <bazhang> it's not legal and offtopic here
[07:09] <bullgard4> u_dparte: What do you mean by <other wifiinterface>?
[07:09] <WIGGMPk> u_dparte: I work for a company that ships every Apple product on the East Coast of the US, the license is like that for a reason lol
[07:09] <u_dparte> bullgard4, I have a wifi1 and wifi0 -- -two diff. wifi cards
[07:09] <u_dparte> to switch between the two you bring 1 down and 1 up
[07:09] <u_dparte> visa versa to switch them
[07:10] <bullgard4> u_dparte: Your messages do not answer the question which have put.
[07:10] <davidguard> Hey all. I'm wondering if I can some advice for a friend. He tells me that after a recent upgrade ATI drivers in the repositories caused his monitor to become bricked. What could have caused this? Could it be: Ubuntu/Canonical not testing the driver sufficiently before including it in the repository; him using binary drivers; him not being careful enough. The reason I'm asking is because he is saying this is his reason fo
[07:10] <bazhang> jeffs, you have ccsm installed? (here and not via PM)
[07:11] <digitaltao> ek
[07:11] <bazhang> jeffs, please answer here (NOT PM)
[07:11] <Jordan_U> davidguard: What makes him think that the drivers bricked the monitor? If it wasn't a CRT then I don't see how that would be possible, and even then not likely.
[07:12] <mase_work> WIGGMPk: i don't want to do anything illegal and i'd rather not support that platform if thats the approach they are taking.
[07:12] <jeffs> yes its installed
[07:12] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: well.. I would start by assuring him that a driver can not "brick" a monitor..
[07:12] <halberd> is it possible to get wicd to connect automatically to known wireless networks?
[07:12] <bazhang> jeffs, open ccsm and look at general settings (general)
[07:12] <halberd> known = connected to them before
[07:12] <vise> Ok.. one more question... Is it possible to cleanly uninstall a program which was installed using 'make install' from the source tarball? Most programs don't have an uninstall script in their Makefile. Or is there a program that would parse and reverse changes by looking at the install script in the Makefile?
[07:12] <davidguard> Jordan_U: He says that was the case. I have no idea whether it's true or whether he even knows what he's talking about. That's why I'm asking.
[07:12] <jeffs> ok
[07:12] <u_dparte> bullgard4, what are you trying to do exactly
[07:13] <davidguard> WIGGMPk: that's good news. I can tell him that.
[07:13] <halberd> vise I don't think that's likely... maybe someone has tried
[07:13] <bazhang> jeffs, under General Options (top row) click on Desktop Size
[07:13] <jeffs> ok
[07:13] <halberd> vise often a program will say where it installs things
[07:13] <davidguard> Does anyone have any other related info I could use to continue advocating Ubuntu to him?
[07:13] <halberd> vise like in the readme
[07:13] <bazhang> then horizontal virtual size set to 4 jeffs
[07:13] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: drivers can not render hardware (the monitor) useless.. he most likely does not have the ATI drivers installed correctly, or does not have the xserver setup properly. Its tough to say without providing information and config files
[07:13] <halberd> vise so to uninstall it you could simply remove wherever it said it installed to
[07:14] <vise> halberd, Yes, but there are a lot of locations... It takes time to remove them all.. It puts configurations, binaries and icons etc...
[07:14] <halberd> using your good judgment
[07:14] <jeffs> thanks
[07:14] <davidguard> WIGGMPk: so that main thing is it's not Ubuntu's fault... right?
[07:14] <digitaltao> Anyone here install Firefox 3.5 yet?
[07:14] <u_dparte> digitaltao, yes
[07:14] <jeffs> are you a bot
[07:14] <u_dparte> works great
[07:15] <digitaltao> Is it much quicker??
[07:15] <Jordan_U> davidguard: CRT or LCD? I really doubt that even a CRT could be bricked, but I am willing to say it might be possible ( too high a refresh rate might concievably cause problems with a CRT ), an LCD on the other hand I don't know how it would be possible.
[07:15] <bazhang> !ff35 | digitaltao try yourself
[07:15] <u_dparte> digitaltao, fairly - I haven't noticed the big 50% increase like they claim
[07:15] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: well.. technically no.. if he installed the drivers 'the ubuntu way' then no, its not Ubuntu's fault.. If he started by using binaries from ATI and switched to Ubuntu's repositories for the driver than its definitely a config issue
[07:15] <bullgard4> u_dparte:  After dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[07:15] <digitaltao> oh
[07:16] <digitaltao> i think i will just wget the non real deal
[07:16] <digitaltao> ***er the non beta
[07:16] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: I have never used ATI drivers on Ubuntu but have heard of them being troublesome.. If its relatively similar to nvidia drivers than Ubuntu should be able to handle them.
[07:16] <davidguard> Jordan_U: At this stage I'm unware of the monitor type... he's an old friend I haven't seen in about 10 years... I recently only came in contact with him through Facebook. His replies to a status update are causing anyone seeing them to be misled, if what he's saying is untrue of course.
[07:16] <u_dparte> digitaltao, they have them in one of the repos ... my upgrade last night caught it and upgraded
[07:16] <u_dparte> i think its the proposed repo
[07:17] <croddy> hello, is there a way to configure grub to wait forever for me to select a kernel before it boots?
[07:17] <jeffs> how do I make sure that my video card drivers are properly installed?
[07:17] <high-rez> So...  I just tried to install and it hung at "scanning the mirror"./
[07:17] <Jordan_U> croddy: Yes
[07:17] <u_dparte> bullgard4, I'm not sure ... dist-upgrades are not ideal IMO ... try running system>>administration >> hardware drivers to see if you need to install one
[07:18] <davidguard> Thanks for the advice guys. I will try explaining that so that no one gets the wrong idea.
[07:18] <dinar> всем привет
[07:18] <bazhang> dinar, #ubuntu-ru
[07:19] <Jordan_U> croddy: IIRC if you remove the "timeout" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst it won't boot anything automatically but let me check before you try that.
[07:19] <croddy> that seems to cause it to instantly boot the default entry
[07:19] <davidguard> Oh one other question: does Ubuntu have dual screen support... I've never tried.
[07:20] <bazhang> !xrandr | davidguard
[07:20] <Jordan_U> davidguard: Yes, but how easy / stable it is depends on the driver
[07:20] <davidguard> Thanks bazhang I'll have a look.
[07:21] <davidguard> Jordan_U: thanks for that.
[07:22] <high-rez> Man what the heck - I see posts about this from like two years ago and its still not been fixed.  What a terrible user experience.
[07:22] <boozler> I'm running desktop effects with this video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121019 and it's performing rather poorly... Can any one confirm that they would expect this card to perform poorly (other hardware aside)
[07:23] <Jordan_U> croddy: Commenting out / removing the timeout line should do it ( just checked ).
[07:23] <croddy> ok, thanks
[07:25] <davidguard> Oh one last point of clarification: this could not have been caused by simply upgrading? Yes/No?
[07:25] <steph_> i had a soundcard which didnt work now i changed to usb soundcard and dunno whys not working either
[07:25] <Thingymebob> boozler: Are you using Nvidia or nv drivers
[07:26] <boozler> thingymebob nvidia
[07:26] <mubu> Anyone know when Firefox 3.5 will be released in the ubuntu jaunty 9.04 repositories? Thanks
[07:27] <gauravsrf> HELLO EVERY ONE
[07:27] <aacosta_> hello
[07:27] <steph_> brb
[07:27] <leaf-sheep> !ff3.5 | mubu
[07:27] <Thingymebob> boozler: My old Nvidia works OK so I would expect this to be ok too, What exactly do you mean by poor.
[07:27] <sattam> clear
[07:27] <stealth-> anyone know a java decompiler for linux?
[07:27] <gauravsrf> could any one help me in the situation like i want to syncronize my one of folder from windows partition to the linux partation and same way via versa is it possible if so how ?
[07:28] <aacosta_> can anyone help me out with vsftpvd
[07:28] <aacosta_> ftpd
[07:28] <aacosta_> i dont know for some strange reason im not able to do file transfes
[07:28] <Spike1506> gauravsrf, i would use rsync to do such thing
[07:28] <aacosta_> locally from one ubuntu box to another
[07:28] <leaf-sheep> gauravsrf: Use Unison if you need GUI.
[07:28] <Spike1506> gauravsrf, altough im not sure howto do it.
[07:28] <boozler> Thingymebob its somewhat slow and not very smooth. I also trying to run it in 1920x1080...
[07:29] <gauravsrf> ?
[07:29] <mubu> leaf-sheep, have a real answer?
[07:30] <Siegfried> i don't understand something, if i put http://pastebin.com/m2bbded83 in babelfish, spanish to english
[07:30] <justanothercoder> how do i change the timezone on an ubuntu-server?
[07:30] <Siegfried> ops
[07:30] <Siegfried> english to spanish
[07:30] <Siegfried> quotes are changed to spanish quotes in firefox, but in lynx wget or curl it doesn't show any quote
[07:30] <kbp> between Norton Ghost & Partimage, which one is faster?
[07:31] <Siegfried> sudo tzconfig justanothercoder
[07:31] <Siegfried> or dpkg-reconfigure tz-data
[07:31] <Siegfried> tzdata*
[07:32] <Mike94287> Instead of having to type 'php /path/to/file.php' in terminal to run a php script, is there a way to add a custom right click menu option in Nautilus that will open terminal with that line in it?
[07:32] <gauravsrf> could any one help me in the situation like i want to synchronize my one of folder from windows partition to the Linux partition and same way via versa is it possible if so how ?
[07:33] <MooKow> lol
[07:33] <MooKow> taking my name XD
[07:34] <justanothercoder> Siegfried : it says tzconfig is deprecated
[07:34] <lopeze> Can anyone help me set up a full Ubuntu install post installation with a minimal iso?
[07:34] <justanothercoder> and i should use  dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[07:34] <Thingymebob> boozler: http://www.nabble.com/Jaunty:-How-do-you-activate-video-acceleration--td227 looks like poster was having same issue
[07:35] <digitaltao> why lopeze?
[07:35] <bullgard4> u_dparte: From my investigations I conclude that the proper driver is installed. Something with my configuration seems to be not all right after the dist-upgrade. --  Thank you for commenting.
[07:35] <Yossarian> hey guys
[07:35] <boozler> Thingymebob links no good for me
[07:35] <manpreet> hi
[07:35] <u_dparte> bullgard4, n/p .. sorry i can't help much
[07:35] <Yossarian> i'm using latest amarok and i'd like to listen to last.fm radio through it but it doesn't seem to work
[07:35] <manpreet> hoe r u
[07:35] <lopeze> digitaltao: With the alternate Hardy Heron disk it always hangs at 6 percent. The only way I can get it to install is through the minimal iso.
[07:35] <Yossarian> it show it's playing but it doesn't output anything
[07:36] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Did it work in the LiveCD session?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Or, can you try it with a jaunty LiveCD?
[07:37] <gauravsrf> could any one help me in the situation like i want to synchronize my one of folder from windows partition to the Linux partition and same way via versa is it possible if so how?
[07:37] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: I obtained a 9.04 CD only yesterday. I will test it now.
[07:38] <legend2440> Mike94287: like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336193
[07:38] <gauravsrf> any help
[07:38] <Thingymebob> boozler: what version is your driver?
[07:38] <Jordan_U> !rsync | gauravsrf
[07:39] <Jordan_U> gauravsrf: It also works locally
[07:39] <jahc> help.. my netbook only has 4gb solid state non upgradeable hard drive. after installing every app codec addon plugin and software I want to do what I want to do, I've only got about 600mb left! I need more space for my music and youtube clips!
[07:39] <boozler> Thingymebob 180
[07:39] <jahc> what can I delete that isnt essential?
[07:39] <jahc> need gcc (just in case), need openoffice.org..
[07:39] <vadviktor> Good morning PPL! Anyone knows a way how to get information on an unmounted hdd before mounting? Like what labels or partitions does it have?
[07:40] <Thingymebob> boozler: have you tried 173?
[07:40] <Mike94287> legend2440: Kind of, but instead of just being in the directory and still having to type 'php file.php' I'd rather have it be there right away when I open the file with terminal
[07:40] <boozler> Thingymebob ill need to try that i suppose
[07:41] <Yossarian> ok nevermind it works :D
[07:41] <Jordan_U> vadviktor: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdxx
[07:41] <Thingymebob> jahc: install localepurge to get rid of all languages you don't need
[07:42] <vadviktor> Jordan_U: thank you very much! :)
[07:42] <Thingymebob> jahc: sudo apt-get clean
[07:42] <kilrathi_> I'm trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy, but apt tells me there are no release upgrades at this time.  I've been following the eol pages on the ubuntu site.  Can anyone help?
[07:44] <legend2440> Mike94287: try this  right click Desktop and select Create Launcher   Select Type   Application in Terminal  Name it Whatever you want then in command try this foe example     gnome-terminal --working-directory='/usr/src'  When you click it it opens in  /usr/src
[07:44] <Thingymebob> !upgrade | kilrathi_
[07:45] <Thingymebob> Kilrathi_ : sorry, just read you've been following those!
[07:46] <kilrathi> The other problem i've been having with that page is it seems to only refer to the gui upgrade.  I'm doing this all through the cli.  X isn't even installed.
[07:47] <Gunther> hi when i given the #xhost <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:47] <Gunther> i'm getting the error xhost:  unable to open display ""
[07:47] <lopeze> Anyone able to help me complete a full install of ubuntu as if it was done with the live cd, however in this case it is done with the minimal iso install?
[07:47] <Gunther> can any one help
[07:48] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD. It tells me that the radio networks are diabled. How to enable them?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> lopeze: As I told you before, just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:49] <lopeze> Even then I cannot get the graphical display to appear even with start x.
[07:49] <lopeze> After doing that the machine also tells me that the filesystem has errors that even with a manual fsck do not go away.
[07:49] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD. It tells me that the radio networks are disabled. How to enable them?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> lopeze: Are you sure that the hard drive is good?
[07:49] <justanothercoder> my cron doesn't seem to be firing, i setup crontab right. is there a way to check some error log or something?
[07:50] <lopeze> Yes.
[07:50] <indus> Gunther: what are you trying to do
[07:50] <micah> sup motherfuckers
[07:50] <lopeze> Should I be running the command as root or under the username?
[07:51] <indus> micah: wrong channel
[07:51] <root_> exit
[07:51] <indus> !ops > micah
[07:51] <bullgard4> Ich habe die Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD gestartet. Sie meldet: "Funknetzwerke sind deaktiviert." Wie aktiviert man sie?
[07:52] <micah> dont even know what the hell that means
[07:52] <Cosmo1> I am having a odd couple of problems one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher
[07:52] <indus> !ops > indus
[07:52] <indus> oops
[07:52] <indus> micah: watch your language
[07:52] <Gunther> indus: i want to open X in a remote ssh session
[07:53] <micah> i do what i want bitch dont tell me what to do
[07:53] <Gunther> indus: and run some gui applications
[07:53] <chiques> Anyone have any idea why my videos are really choppy (e.g. Youtube, facebook...) when playing in Firefox?
[07:53] <tanath> need. help. removed secondary HD and now machine won't boot
[07:53] <PC_Nerd101> Hi - is there a way I can get ubuntu to display what runtime (rc) its in?
[07:53] <tanath> freezes at 'reading hardware drivers' and caps lock starts blinking
[07:54] <ikonia> micah: this channel has a clean language policy, please control your language, I hope that makes it clear
[07:54] <atomic007za> hi
[07:54] <tanath> what does blinking capslock mean?
[07:54] <micah> oh thats hella messed up we should have freedom of speech
[07:54] <ikonia> micah: then you don't have to be in this channel if you can't follow the rules
[07:54] <ikonia> tanath: sounds like it's probing and not completing
[07:54] <micah> how to i switch channels?
[07:55] <ikonia> micah: /join #channel_name
[07:55] <gauravsrf_> rsync how to use it local folders
[07:55] <Jordan_U> tanath: Usually a kernel panic
[07:55] <ikonia> micah: /part will make you exist this channel
[07:55] <tanath> ikonia: all i did was remove an unnecessary hard drive
[07:55] <Jordan_U> tanath: Basically the equivalent of a BSOD
[07:55] <ikonia> tanath: may be more nessasary than you thought, what was on it ?
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia, Jordan_U, i have a sata drive i removed, and now my ide boot drive won't load ubuntu. freezes during bootup splash
[07:56] <Jordan_U> gauravsrf_: Just have the source and destination paths both be local
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: videos & stuff
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: just storage
[07:56] <ikonia> tanath: as you said, that really shouldn't effect it
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: indeed
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: but now i can't boot. doesn't seem to make sense
[07:56] <ikonia> tanath: can you boot into single user mode ?
[07:57] <tanath> ikonia: i'm in recover console right now
[07:57] <tanath> +y
[07:57] <indus> Gunther: what error are you gettinh
[07:57] <kbp> hello I gonna backup my Windows and Ubuntu partitions (1 is NTFS, 1 is ext3). so which type of partition do I use to store the image backup file? Thank you very much
[07:57] <Spike1506> ext4
[07:57] <jahc> thunder: excellent, i've freed up around 150mb
[07:57] <tanath> ikonia: i booted to recovery mode, but not sure how to fix when i'm unsure of the problem
[07:57] <jahc> nice :)
[07:57] <ikonia> tanath: and that works ok ?
[07:57] <jahc> its not THAT much but every bit helps on 4gb solid state soldered in hard drives!
[07:57] <jahc> thanks guys
[07:57] <indus> Gunther: xhosts <ip>
[07:58] <tanath> tanath: well, i can get the recovery prompt. i ran irssi to get here
[07:58] <ikonia> tanath: here is my suggestion, go to your grub menu.lst and remove the splash option so there is no splash - watch what happens when you boot up and see where it hangs
[07:58] <tanath> ikonia: woops, see last msg
[07:58] <Jordan_U> kbp: Doesn't matter, the image can be stored on anything ( well, not fat because it has a 4 GIG file size limit, but anything else :)
[07:58] <Cosmo1>  I am having a odd couple of problems one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this
[07:58] <tanath> ikonia: what do i add to the line?
[07:58] <lasifjelais> hai2u
[07:58] <kbp> Spike1506: ext4 is buggy and every1 avoid it at the moment
[07:58] <lasifjelais> haiiiiiiiiiiii2uuuuuuuuu
[07:58] <Spike1506> i use it
[07:58] <kbp> thank you Jordan_U
[07:58] <Jordan_U> kbp: Or are you not actually creating an image but just copying the files?
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: er, woops. you mean remove the 'splash' param?
[07:59] <Spike1506> dont have any problems with it.
[07:59] <ikonia> tanath: that's it
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: been i while
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: ok
[07:59] <ikonia> tanath: no problem
[07:59] <Gunther> indus:hostname: Unknown host
[07:59] <Gunther> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name "nortrans01:0" in "list" command
[07:59] <Gunther> xauth: (stdin):1:  bad display name "nortrans01:0" in "add" command
[07:59] <Gunther> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[07:59] <Gunther> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name "nortrans01:0" in "remove" command
[07:59] <Gunther> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[07:59] <FloodBot3> Gunther: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: ok, i'll have a look. back in a bit if i don't figure it. thanks
[07:59] <kbp> Jordan_U I gonna use Norton Ghost to make partition image (Partimage doesnt work well)
[08:01] <Alumin> OK, this is kinda a shot in the dark, but anybody else with a Synaptics touchpad on a laptop see it stop working today with package updates?
[08:01] <Alumin> been a little while since I updated packages on the laptop, so maybe within a week or so
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> !touchpad
[08:01] <joebodo> Alumin what release ?
[08:01] <adhok> Hi, I'm having difficulties dropping out of the graphic interface and into the shell by using ctrl + alt + F1.  Whenever I do it .. makes my keyboard go wonky.  It won't allow me to type any real characters, so I can't log in to complete this darn driver installation :(  Anyone know what the problem could possibly be?
[08:02] <Alumin> Xubuntu Jaunty
[08:02] <u_dparte> adhok, did you try a restart into a freshly running ubuntu X
[08:03] <u_dparte> adhok, I just had the same thing while updating to the nvidia 185 drivers
[08:03] <kbp> adhok: how about Ctrl+Alt+F2 - F3 - F4 ... ? is it the same?
[08:03] <joebodo> Alumin updating my eeepc now
[08:03] <adhok> yes I did, although I didn't purge my machines memory, I even tried doing the recovery option and logging in as root with terminal.. and it still was giving me issues
[08:03] <Jordan_U> adhok: First of all you probably shouldn't be installing the nvidia drivers manually which is what I assume you are doing
[08:03] <adhok> havent tried ctrl + alt and any other Fkeys
[08:03] <Alumin> if it helps, I noticed that removing and re-inserting the "psmouse" kernel module had an effect
[08:03] <u_dparte> adhok, which drivers are you installing?
[08:03] <Spike1506> when will firefox 3.5 be available in ubuntu?
[08:03] <Cosmo1> my gnome panel keeps disapearing, how do I get it to stop doing that?
[08:03] <synta10> !ff35
[08:04] <Alumin> when I "modprobe psmouse", the touchpad works for about a second, then stops responding again
[08:04] <adhok> beta drivers for my gtx280s.. all the available drivers that are recommended just won't work
[08:04] <u_dparte> adhok, I had to kill some services like postfix, apache, sshd to get it to drop to a shell correctly
[08:04] <adhok> kk thanks u_dparte, that's a good idea
[08:05] <V1> Who here is using pidgin?
[08:05] <synta10> V1: me, why?
[08:05] <Cosmo1> me
[08:05] <Severity1> me
[08:05] <Severity1> why
[08:05] <supravat> v1:me
[08:05] <V1> Yeaa
[08:06] <supravat> why ??
[08:06] <jschiff> pidgin is terrible :(
[08:06] <V1> Pidgin is total pwnage
[08:06] <Severity1> no it is not
[08:06] <Alumin> I'm going to try the suggestions on the page ActionParsnip suggested, maybe that'll help
[08:06] <jschiff> an IM client without webcam support *sigh*
[08:06] <supravat> why u think that ??
[08:06] <Severity1> well it is an instant messenger
[08:06] <Alumin> jschiff: you'd really hate my setup then, I use BitlBee most of the time :)
[08:07] <Severity1> just use skype
[08:07] <joebodo> Alumin touchpad seems fine after update
[08:07] <Alumin> joebodo: bah to you, then  :D
[08:07] <jschiff> I have a lot of friends that just use msn/yahoo and aren't tech savvy enough to use skype
[08:07] <UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn> :-D
[08:07] <UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn> Lol yea
[08:08] <Alumin> mine is an Acer Aspire One ... it went into suspend and didn't come back out properly, that may have something to do with it too perhaps
[08:08] <jschiff> that's why IM clients need to have webcam support over the msn/yahoo protocol
[08:08] <Cosmo1> I tried using empathy I was not impressed
[08:08] <jschiff> same
[08:08] <jschiff> unfortunately kopete is by far the best IM client for linux
[08:08] <jschiff> however limiting itself to qt is agrivating
[08:09] <lijero> hola
[08:09] <lijero> hola
[08:09] <Gunther> indus: i want to open gui applications in ssh can you help ?
[08:09] <jschiff> Gunther: ssh -X
[08:09] <UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn> Is there like an online software repository, but in a web browser instead of sudo-apt get blah blah blah???
[08:09] <rayno_b> Hello there - I need some assistance with the "X Server" on Ubuntu Server while using Putty?
[08:09] <Thingymebob> kilrathi: Its not recommended and is frowned upon here but you can upgrade by changing your sources. PM Me if you want me to guide you through it
[08:10] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition Live CD. It tells me that the radio networks are disabled. How to enable them?
[08:10] <adhok> hrm, apparently I have no services running except for root, and it still has the same issue :(
[08:10] <Jordan_U> UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn: Try Applications > Add/Remove, it's probably more what you are looking for
[08:10] <emilie> i can't log in gmail and in any other <form> like the gmail login form, i can solve it by removing the .firefox directory, but I'd like a beeter solution
[08:10] <emilie> better]
[08:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: enable your wirless card
[08:11] <bullgard4> ikonia: hehe. I just asked how to enable it.
[08:11] <Gunther> jschiff: i'm using putty from windows machine
[08:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: normally with a kill switch on the machine
[08:12] <jschiff> Gunther: Install Cygwin-X
[08:12] <jschiff> will allow you to run an X environment on windows
[08:12] <jschiff> thus allowing ssh -X tunneling
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: blargh
[08:12] <steph_> my sounds dont works at all
[08:12] <ikonia> tanath: ?
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: error msg wasn't that helpful
[08:12] <rayno_b> jschiff do you mind if I pvt you please?\
[08:12] <bullgard4> ikonia: My computer does not have a hardware kill switch.
[08:12] <ikonia> tanath: anything at all ?
[08:12] <jschiff> go ahead rayno_b
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: there were 3 relevant lines at end
[08:12] <u_dparte> steph_, did you just install ?
[08:12] <ikonia> bullgard4: is it a PC or a laptop
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: 'Code: (lots of hex)' then..
[08:12] <bullgard4> ikonia: It is a laptop computer.
[08:13] <steph_> yesterday, i installed drivers yesterday and in pulse it shows sound, but i cant hear it
[08:13] <steph_> @ u_dparte
[08:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: then it will either have a kill switch or a kill key sequence
[08:13] <tanath> ikonia: 'EIP: avc_has_perm_noaudit+0x186/0x1b0' then...
[08:13] <ikonia> tanath: that does sound like a panic
[08:13] <tanath> ikonia: 'Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt'
[08:13] <soreau> steph_: Try running 'alsamixer' in your terminal?
[08:13] <ikonia> tanath: game over
[08:13] <jeancalvin> hi guys, which "debian version" is closest to ubuntu 9.04? Please see this list before you answer: http://deb.opera.com/ .
[08:13] <steph_> i did
[08:13] <ikonia> jeancalvin: none
[08:14] <tanath> ikonia: it was fine before removing the HD. not sure why it'd do that
[08:14] <soreau> ! audio | steph_
[08:14] <jeancalvin> ikonia, please just look
[08:14] <jschiff> debian 5.0 jeancalvin
[08:14] <ikonia> tanath: that really shouldn't effect it....but, have you tried putting the hardware in
[08:14] <jeancalvin> i just need to install opera
[08:14] <ikonia> jeancalvin: no - they are not related
[08:14] <jeancalvin> jschiff: pls look at the list.
[08:14] <tanath> ikonia: not yet. i didn't before 'cause it was being copied to & from
[08:14] <steph_> ohh wait now comes something different in terminal
[08:14] <steph_> i try that
[08:14] <tanath> ikonia: i could now, but i'd like to know what the prob is
[08:15] <tanath> ikonia: if it works... there could still be a prob, only hidden
[08:15] <steph_> i had always problems with audio
[08:15] <jeancalvin> hi guys
[08:15] <jeancalvin> potato, woody, sarge, etch, lenny, or sid?
[08:15] <ikonia> tanath: if it works we can look into it more, but as it stands it's hard to work out due to the panic
[08:15] <ikonia> tanath: I'll be surprised if it works when the disk goes back in, but it's certainly worth trying
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: i'd be surprised if it didn't, 'cause nothing else has changed... though it is odd
[08:16] <ikonia> tanath: lets find out
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: well thanks. it's late. i'm off for now
[08:16] <TheQ> Moin
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: yeah, i'll try it, but i'm off for now
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: thanks
[08:17] <lijero> hola
[08:17] <lijero> que tal
[08:17] <ikonia> !es
[08:17] <SnakDoc> can you run any gui app with x11 forwarding ?
[08:18] <steph_> i also lost my sound icon in panel it was there b4
[08:18] <jschiff> SnakDoc: ssh -X and yes
[08:18] <SnakDoc> steph: right click panel and hit add to panel
[08:18] <steph_> ok
[08:19] <SnakDoc> steph: look for volume control should be what you are wanting
[08:19] <indus> Gunther: hi sorry was away
[08:19] <indus> Gunther: you found help already?
[08:20] <indus> Gunther: nice tutorial here http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/170-run-remote-x-applications-over-network-using-ssh.html
[08:21] <NOMIND> k
[08:24] <ladiez_caem> hy
[08:24] <indus> hi
[08:24] <ladiez_caem> asl
[08:24] <Cosmo1>  I am having a odd couple of problems one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this?
[08:24] <u_dparte> are you kidding me ... what is this aol now
[08:25] <steph_> i did that the page wanted but still nothing its says failed in terminal
[08:25] <Gunther> indus:thanks, indus i will read that tutorial
[08:28] <indus> Gunther: let me know if it works, i havent tried this yet
[08:29] <rubydiamond> how to install firefox 3.5 for ubuntu 8.10 using apt
[08:29] <indus> Gunther: i think xforwarding is the issue you have , make sure you set it up on the server
[08:29] <Thingymebob> !ff35
[08:31] <AndorinKato> Hi, guys! A little while back my multimedia keys on my laptop (Play/Pause, Stop, etc) stopped working for any music player. I know it's not a hardware issue since Ubuntu detects the usage of the keys themselves; they just don't function. Their keyboard shortcut assignments haven't changed. Any thoughts?
[08:31] <indus> rubydiamond:i suggest you directly download ff from mozilla
[08:32] <rubydiamond> indus, then how can I install it?
[08:32] <indus> rubydiamond: go to site and download
[08:32] <indus> www.getfirefox.com
[08:32] <AndorinKato> I think it happened after I installed a small group of updates via the Update Manager. However, on my other Jaunty install on my PC, the keys work fine.
[08:32] <rubydiamond> indus, but it will break apt ff
[08:32] <ziroday> indus: please don't recommend that.
[08:33] <indus> rubydiamond: no it wont its not a deb file
[08:33] <ziroday> rubydiamond: follow the factoid given to you above. Wait patiently or use the mozilla-security PPA if you have to
[08:33] <indus> rubydiamond: ziroday:well,iam using the ff beta from synaptic
[08:33] <tweaker25> someone can tell why some softwares need more hardware on linux than windows and why linux always grow bigger in hardware specifications need when it only does the same things as before ???
[08:34] <indus> ziroday: whatas wrong with using it from mozilla? works fine
[08:34] <AndorinKato> tweaker25: It's the other way around... Ubuntu needs 4 GB of HD space when it's installed, and Windows 7 needs 16 GB.
[08:34] <jschiff> tweaker25: examples?
[08:34] <ziroday> indus: if you'll join me in #ubuntu-offtopic I'll explain why using the packages to source from mozilla.org is not a good idea
[08:34] <AndorinKato> Linux runs a lot better on older computers than Windows.
[08:34] <indus> ziroday: ok
[08:35] <tweaker25> miro software is a good example ... linux isn't windows so cut the comparaison there ...
[08:36] <tweaker25> yep it run better but where cutting at it slowly with ubuntu and ubuntu just do the same as other distros
[08:36] <AndorinKato> Does anyone have any suggestions for the problem I described above?
[08:37]  * tweaker25 wait and pray for the next xubuntu-killer lubuntu as an official distro !!!
[08:37] <AndorinKato> tweaker25: Ubuntu is actually a more resource-hungry distro because of its fancy GUI and desktop effects.
[08:37] <djiezes> AndorinKato: have you tried reconfiguring those shortcuts?
[08:37] <AndorinKato> So I'm not really sure what you're asking about.
[08:38] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I have; I've tried assigning the functions to different keys, and those don't work either. Hence, not hardware issue.
[08:38] <tweaker25> AndorinKato some software need a little more on linux than on windows, the softwares need more tweaking or what ?
[08:39] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <djiezes> AndorinKato: just this session, or also after other reboots?
[08:40] <Slemming> Hi, any word on when firefox will be updated in repo to 3.5?
[08:40] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I tried it a while back... want me to again just to be sure?
[08:40] <djiezes> AndorinKato: you're saying rebooting didn't fix the issue?
[08:41] <sultan> I tried you mama
[08:41] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Indeed.
[08:41] <Alumin> well, I tried "modprobe psmouse synaptics_resume_reset=N" but still no dice...works for about a second then dies again
[08:41] <djiezes> AndorinKato: hm ... i'm running out of ideas ... sorry
[08:41] <Jimmio> Hello all. How do I use gnome-session-save? It's not working at all... but the --logout parameter works >_>
[08:41] <AndorinKato> That's okay, thanks anyway. :)
[08:42] <AndorinKato> Can anyone offer advice on nonfunctioning multimedia keys?
[08:42] <djiezes> AndorinKato: maybe another application is preventing the use of your keyboard shortcuts. ... but that's just a guess
[08:42] <Slemming> AndorinKato: do they generate an event?
[08:42] <Alumin> anybody know where I can edit my Xorg configuration now?  This new idea of "we don't need xorg.conf, everything's auto-detected" is fine and dandy until something breaks and you need to tweak one thing :)
[08:43] <Slemming> run xev, press multimedia keys, see if something changes in console
[08:43] <Slemming> (run xev from a terminal)
[08:43] <AndorinKato> Yes.
[08:43] <niarbeht> AndorinKato: as in, you press it at the console (the real one, not a term inside X) and no random-seeming gibberish spits out?
[08:43] <AndorinKato> Slemming: They do. I know it's not a hardware issue because of that, and because I've tried changing the keys of the shortcut.
[08:43] <niarbeht> Alumin: are you talking about messing w/ input device configuration?
[08:43] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Where are you trying to bind the keys?
[08:44] <AndorinKato> Er... bind meaning?
[08:44] <Slemming> assigning shortcuts
[08:44] <jschiff> Alumin: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <Alumin> niarbeht: yeah, I think there was an Xorg update recently that borked my (synaptics) touchpad
[08:44] <Alumin> jschiff: that's where I would expect to find it, yeah
[08:44] <niarbeht> Alumin: Oh, JOY.  To xorg-server 1.5, I'm guessing?  Lemme look up where the hal stuff is on my gentoo install...
[08:45] <AndorinKato> Uh... well, for example, I'm trying to assign Fn+Home (on a laptop) to XF86AudioPlay. Is that the sort of answer you're looking for?
[08:45] <hossam> hello, i am trying to enable multiple backgrounds for my workspaces and tried to follow this tutorial http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/
[08:45] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Aren't those hardwired?
[08:45] <jschiff> Alumin: you try a "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.bak}" then a "Xorg -configure" and using that config?
[08:45] <niarbeht> Alumin: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/47-some-logical-policy-name.fdi
[08:45] <hossam> but now compiz cube doesnt have the background option since ubuntu 9.04
[08:45] <Slemming> as in "does the fn key alone generate an event?"
[08:46] <hossam> is there anythign i can do to get this background feature back?
[08:46] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It does not.
[08:46] <Alumin> jschiff: my point is that there is no xorg.conf there now...but I'll try the -configure, one sec
[08:46] <Verlex> have a good morning to all people in chatt
[08:46] <Alumin> niarbeht: lemme see what I have in there
[08:46] <niarbeht> Alumin: what you'll wanna do is find a HAL policy file for a synaptics touchpad, and add/tweak options as appropriate.
[08:46] <Slemming> AndorinKato: And you want fn+home to be assigned to XF86AudioPlay?
[08:46] <AndorinKato> But other Fn functions work, like shutting off the screen. My multimedia keys and mute are the only ones that don't work.
[08:46] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Indeed, that's where it normally is.
[08:46] <Slemming> what does fn+home generate now?
[08:46] <AndorinKato> Nothing.,
[08:46] <niarbeht> Alumin: Mine is under /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi, I can pastebin the contents for you if you want.
[08:47] <Slemming> AndorinKato: And that's your hardware issure
[08:47] <jschiff> Alumin: "Xorg -configure" then "mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:47] <Slemming> issue*
[08:47] <Alumin> niarbeht: by the way I already followed the instructions on this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[08:47] <jschiff> as root of course
[08:47] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Are you sure? If I assign XF86AudioPlay to another key (say Insert), it still doesn't work.
[08:48] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Okay, maybe I misunderstood your question earlier... apologies.
[08:48] <AndorinKato> I'm still rather new to this. ^^;
[08:48] <sf_thailand_haii> ubuntu
[08:49] <Slemming> AndorinKato: I'm not sure about that part (remapping a key to another)
[08:49] <niarbeht> Alumin: well, those seem rather decent.  If you've updated to xorg-server 1.5 as your X server, then you'll need to edit a HAL policy file rather than the xorg.conf file.
[08:49] <hossam> anyone know how to have multiple desktops for your workspaces in ubuntu 9.04?
[08:49] <Slemming> but if the OS doesn't detect that fn+home is being pressed, it sounds hard to use that as bindings
[08:49] <Slemming> still, it's possible that I'm wrong
[08:49] <vl> Sorry if this is a FAQ, but since a kernel update this morning (German time) my windows kvm virtual machine does not boot anymore.
[08:50] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's what makes me think it's a software thing... plus the fact that they stopped working, like, right after I installed a handful of updates. Also, xev deects Fn+Home, but not Fn alone.
[08:50] <vl> Is that a known issue?
[08:50] <vl> Running 9.04
[08:50] <FilthyRat> fag
[08:50] <Alumin> niarbeht: I think my package versions are on a different track from yours, mine is 1:7.4~5ubuntu1
[08:50] <Alumin> ie the Jaunty version
[08:50] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Ah, so it does detect fn+home?
[08:50] <superlinux> i have tutorial videos that i made . They are about debian installation.  they are on my server. www.superlinux.net. just click the links. discard the Arabic. videos are in arabic and english at the same time. I hope you download them. they are FREE!
[08:50] <djiezes> AndorinKato: i don't get it, what's the point of mapping a multimediakey to insert for example. What I do (in amarok for example) is binding 'Next Track' to XF86Forward. That works ...
[08:50] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Not a hardware issue then, probably
[08:50] <sf_thailand_haii> #join a2
[08:51] <Slemming> djiezes: I'm thinking other way around, so that insert would be xf86home
[08:51] <jschiff> sf_thailand_haii: "/join #a2"
[08:51] <AndorinKato> djiezes: It was to test whether or not the Fn+Home function was physically broken somehow... which can't be the case since both keys still work.
[08:51] <roxie> how do i install java runtime environment on ubuntu netbook remix
[08:51] <Slemming> AndorinKato: It's not broken if it generates a xev event
[08:51] <jschiff> roxie: apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[08:51] <djiezes> Slemming , AndorinKato : okay, it was a test, now i got it :)
[08:51] <roxie> thankyou
[08:51] <AndorinKato> Either way, Insert was just a temporary test; I changed it back. My media player is Songbird 1.2, with the plugin that allows for multimedia key use. The same software that's on my PC, where multimedia keys /do/ work.
[08:51] <Alumin> niarbeht: I think copying your HAL config file is probably my best bet at this point; if you don't mind putting yours online I'll gladly snipe it :)
[08:51] <djiezes> AndorinKato: is it in gnome settings only that it doesnt work, or are you trying a specific application?
[08:52] <roxie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:52] <roxie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:52] <Flannel> roxie: Prefix it with sudo
[08:52] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I tested it in Songbird and in Amarok.
[08:52] <u_dparte> roxie, sudo
[08:52] <niarbeht> Alumin: yeah, that version number you quoted was the xorg-x11 front, not the xorg-server version.  I think post-7.3 uses xorg-server 1.5, so you do need to use HAL policies.
[08:52] <jschiff> ubuntus sudo paradigm is annoying
[08:52] <niarbeht> Alumin: just a sec
[08:52] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and in Amarok, in 'Global Shortcuts' ?
[08:52] <Slemming> roxie: You can't install stuff when you
[08:52] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I'll check real quick just to make sure it's assigned.
[08:53] <roxie> k
[08:53] <roxie> ty
[08:53] <Slemming> roxie: are not admin, that's why it needs sudo
[08:53] <AndorinKato> I can't remember whether I've used Amarok before on this computer.
[08:53] <Alumin> jschiff: I tried the "Xorg -configure" deal and when I launch with that config I just get a black screen and an error saying "get fences failed: -1"
[08:53] <jschiff> never heard that error before
[08:53] <Alumin> I have to go back to the invoking terminal and Ctrl-C, it doesn't respond to ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:53] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Where do you map "fn+home" to XF86Home?
[08:53] <jschiff> Well you can thank ubuntu for ctrl-alt-backspace not working
[08:53] <niarbeht> Alumin: I'd also recommend reading the man page for the synaptics driver once you write out my policy file and restart X
[08:53] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nope, it doesn't work in Amarok either.
[08:54] <Jordan_U> jschiff: Well, actually upstream Xorg :)
[08:54] <AndorinKato> Slemming: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
[08:54] <jschiff> you can put Option "dontzap" in your server config in Xorg
[08:54] <jschiff> to bypass that
[08:54] <Slemming> AndorinKato: that doesn't remap a key to another?
[08:54] <Flannel> !dontzap | Alumin, jschiff
[08:54] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It remaps functions to different keys, doesn't it?
[08:54] <jschiff> flannel that's a stupid way of doin it
[08:54] <roxie> mozilla 3.5 is not recognizing the java plugin i guess
[08:54] <r_a_f> ello -- I need Live CD working on 250 MB RAM and usb support - any suggestions PLS ?
[08:54] <jschiff> why install stuff to remove functionality that's disabled
[08:54] <niarbeht> Alumin: That way, you can customize it.  Btw, if your pad supports two- and three-finger actions, this policy file does two-finger scrolling (up-down and left-right), as well as two-finger-tap middle-click and three-finger-tap right-click =D    http://pastebin.ca/1481634
[08:55] <jschiff> when you can just toggle a Xorg option
[08:55] <Slemming> AndorinKato: yes, which function are you binding to fn+home?
[08:55] <Flannel> jschiff: Installing a package is much easier than manually configuring anything.
[08:55] <Jordan_U> roxie: How did you install firefox 3.5
[08:55] <jschiff> not really >_<
[08:55] <Flannel> jschiff: If you'd like to discuss this further, I'd be happy to do so in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's not appropriate for here.
[08:55] <Slemming> "action"
[08:55] <AndorinKato> XF86AudioPlay.
[08:55] <Alumin> Flannel: not for everone :)
[08:55] <roxie> go to ubuntumini.com
[08:55] <jschiff> i'd hardly call editing a file manually configuring.. lol
[08:55] <Alumin> niarbeht: thanks :)
[08:55] <jschiff> people make xorg.conf out to be this big scary beast, but it's really not all that bad
[08:55] <niarbeht> r_a_f: DSL?  Damn Small Linux?  There might be one by them.....
[08:55] <roxie> http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/06/install-firefox-35.html
[08:56] <Slemming> Jordan_U: you could install firefox-3.5 from repo, though it's not up to date
[08:56] <niarbeht> jschiff: nope, it isn't, it's just messy sometimes.
[08:56] <jschiff> and it's good to get users familiar with it
[08:56] <jschiff> so they don't become dependent on ubuntu's automagic configurator
[08:56] <Flannel> jschiff: again, discussions (and rants, etc) belong in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  Thanks
[08:56] <niarbeht> Alumin: please do tell if it works.  And remember you'll need to completely restart X first...
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Slemming: I am asking how he did it to help debug his problem
[08:57] <roxie> Jordan_U: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/06/install-firefox-35.html
[08:57] <AndorinKato> Slemming: XF86AudioPlay... not sure if you saw that message.
[08:57] <Slemming> Jordan_U: Sorry, missed that
[08:57] <Slemming> AndorinKato: XF86Home isn't listed as an action to me?
[08:57] <niarbeht> Alumin: also, the left/right two-finger drag may cause a back or forward action in Opera instead of scrolling.   Where did you get that?
[08:58] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Obviously didn't, sorry, mixed that up
[08:59] <matib> is there someone ?
[08:59] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Still, XF86AudioPlay is listed as a shortcut, not an action
[08:59] <niarbeht> r_a_f: did you find what you were looking for?
[08:59] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's okay, but I might have mixed something up too... like, it looks like the system detects that FN+home is AudioPlay, it's just not letting it execute.
[08:59] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Does fn+home generate a XF86AudioPlay event?
[08:59] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Yeah, sorry, I confused that. Um, I'll check now..
[08:59] <roxie> how do i change my default web  browser on ubuntu netbook remix?
[09:00] <r_a_f> niarbeht: yo - i try DSLinux on old hardware ;)
[09:00] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Try setting XF86AudioPlay (fn+home) to open a Terminal
[09:00] <Slemming> then see if fn+home opens a terminal
[09:00] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Yes, I believe so. The resulting output includes XF86AudioPlay. And yes, I will.
[09:01] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It opened.
[09:01] <Slemming> AndorinKato: So the key works, and also does binding it
[09:01] <Slemming> what functionality did you want out of fn+home?
[09:01] <djiezes> AndorinKato: Slemming : i'm trying it too, the XF86AudioPlay doesn't work either, but other keys like XF86Forward & XF86Back do work ...
[09:02] <niarbeht> r_a_f: I once ran Gentoo on a Pentium II w/ 384mb of RAM.  Compiles took forever... but it was a router, so it did alright.  Except for the bad hardware.
[09:02] <AndorinKato> Slemming: To play a track if one isn't playing, or to pause a currently playing track. So play/pause.
[09:02] <michelleIL> are there any other chanels except this one?
[09:03] <AndorinKato> djiezes: None of mine work- play/pause, stop, forward, back. Oh, and my mute function is out.
[09:03] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Are you sure that your music player recognises play/pause?
[09:03] <niarbeht> michelleIL: #freebsd ?
[09:03] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's worked before, like I said, so I'm pretty sure it does.
[09:03] <niarbeht> michelleIL: sorry, bad joke.
[09:03] <Slemming> djiezes: Do you know if amarok listens to play or pause?
[09:04] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It does, because I've used it before.
[09:04] <Slemming> gnome's play or pause
[09:04] <Alumin> niarbeht: I'm pretty sure gdm restarts X when you log out, but I'm gonna go ahead and just reboot just to be sure
[09:04] <AndorinKato> I just don't use Amarok normally. I find it to be not-particularly-user-friendly. Plus not including .mp3 support by default is a little annoying.
[09:04] <Alumin> nope, no dice
[09:05] <djiezes> Slemming: i'm using Amarok14, and it doesn't react to my XF86AudioPlay. I do know amarok has a play/pauze button in one.
[09:05] <Slemming> Alumin: ps aux | grep X, sudo kill -9 "that pid"
[09:05] <Alumin> I'm not entirely sure it's an Xorg issue, though
[09:05] <Alumin> Slemming: appreciate the thought, but you're answering the wrong question :)
[09:05] <Slemming> Alumin: Meant for forcing a X restart :)
[09:05] <Slemming> Alumin: ah sorry
[09:06] <Slemming> Alumin: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[09:06] <r_a_f>  niarbeht: i need to do copy from an old 240 ram computer - so need usb support for pendrive
[09:06] <Alumin> Slemming: yeah, but I'm lazy and this netbook restarts really fast :P
[09:06] <Slemming> I'm not sure if that should be done from within the running session
[09:06] <djiezes> AndorinKato: it's weird, overhere it's the only key not working, the rest works as it should
[09:06] <Slemming> Alumin: right :)
[09:06] <kujiu> hello
[09:06] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Running Jaunty?
[09:06] <niarbeht> Alumin: to my knowledge, you can set that option somewhere.  GDM in gentoo defaults to not restarting X, but I have no idea about ubuntu.
[09:06] <djiezes> AndorinKato: yep, 64bit though
[09:07] <Alumin> niarbeht: the interesting thing is that the touchpad does work for about 1 second if I remove and re-insert the "psmouse" module
[09:07] <niarbeht> Alumin: O.o
[09:07] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Check inside Amarok -> Settings -> Configure global Shortcuts
[09:07] <Alumin> I did mention that before, but I don't think you were watching the channel yet
[09:08] <boiboite> bon matin !!!
[09:08] <Alumin> so I checked /var/log/(dmesg|messages|syslog), but I don't see any errors
[09:08] <boiboite> dites, j'ai besoin au démarrage de la machine d'ajouter un vairable d'environnement ?
[09:08] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Did, and I had to assign it, but once I did it still didn't work. Will double-check.
[09:08] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Assigned to XF86AudioPlay?
[09:08] <Caleb_> With my ubuntu it says it has like 600 updates.When i go to see, everything is ticked.How do i untick everything so i can tick what i want? Manually unticking every update would take AGES
[09:09] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It calls it "Media Play" in Amarok
[09:09] <niarbeht> Hey, boiboite wants to know how to add an environment variable methinks.
[09:09] <Jordan_U> Caleb_: Use synaptic or apt-get instead, but make sure you install all security updates at least :)
[09:10] <Slemming> Caleb_: Not sure if this is how to do it, don't have an uninstalled update to try, but I'd try synaptic
[09:10] <Alumin> /etc/profile hehe
[09:10] <Caleb_> Ok, i got the lts
[09:10] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[09:10] <ziroday> Caleb_: select the top package, hold shift go down to the bottom, select the bottom package and then untick. Did that work?
[09:10] <djiezes> AndorinKato: i got it working !
[09:10] <Slemming> Caleb_: Actually I'd rather go with apt-get
[09:10] <Caleb_> Ok
[09:10] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Oh boy, what's the process?
[09:11] <djiezes> AndorinKato: in amarok14 that is. I deleted the XF86AudioPlay shortcut. used the primary one (Win+C) then reconfigured the XF86AudioPlay one
[09:11] <Alumin> niarbeht: thanks for the config file anyway though, once I get this stupid touchpad working again it'll be nice to tweak the options
[09:11] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and that did the trick overhere
[09:11] <AndorinKato> djiezes: K, I'll try it.
[09:11] <Alumin> the ironic part is, I !@#$% hate touchpads
[09:11] <salil__> is it possible to extend my root partition?
[09:11] <Caleb_> When i get adsl2+(Oh yeaaa) I can install them all
[09:11] <Slemming> Caleb_: sudo apt-get install *that package you wanted to upgrade*
[09:11] <Alumin> if they made a netbook-sized device with a trackpoint I would drop-kick this thing :)
[09:11] <djiezes> AndorinKato: all in 'Global Shortcuts', Amarok itself ...
[09:11] <Caleb_> Ah ok
[09:11] <AndorinKato> Right...
[09:12] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nope, didn't fix it.
[09:12] <Alumin> salil__: if it's on LVM then yeah
[09:12] <Jordan_U> salil__: What do you mean by expand? If you have free space on the disk you can use a liveCD to expand the partition.
[09:12] <Caleb_> Netbooks are...Dodgy
[09:12] <salil__> Jordan_U, Yes.. answered...
[09:12] <Alumin> Caleb_: I guess...mine's been a trooper until this mouse issue
[09:12] <djiezes> AndorinKato: I might have reconfigured the key first in gnome settings too ...
[09:13] <Alumin> well, except for the fact that it has a ***** trackpad :D
[09:13] <djiezes> AndorinKato: do you use Amarok2, or Amarok14?
[09:13] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I've already done that, with the Insert thing.
[09:13] <machinebacon> !ff3.5
[09:13] <Alumin> did I mention I don't like trackpads?
[09:13] <AndorinKato> djiezes: 2.0.2.
[09:13] <Slemming> AndorinKato: did it not listen to insert as pause/play?
[09:13] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Nope, it did not.
[09:13] <niarbeht> Alumin: I've no idea why it's not working :/
[09:13] <djiezes> AndorinKato: Oh, i use 1.4, maybe that makes a difference
[09:13] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Does it listen to any other shortcut?
[09:13] <Alumin> niarbeht: yeah, I don't think it's an X issue
[09:14] <Caleb_> Notebooks on the other hands are great.I also dont use the ******* trackpad i use a notebook mouse
[09:14] <Slemming> djiezes: Possibly, he mentioned it was working before
[09:14] <niarbeht> Alumin: Lenovo might (they inherited the Thinkpad series...)
[09:14] <Alumin> niarbeht: the mouse doesn't work in console either
[09:14] <Slemming> Alumin: Probably isn't
[09:14] <AndorinKato> Slemming: For any other function, you mean? Or do you mean if I were to reassign it to another different key combination?
[09:14] <Caleb_> Sorry i type slow on ipod touch
[09:14] <Slemming> Alumin: driver/driver settings I'd think
[09:14] <djiezes> AndorinKato: overhere there's a primary & alternative shortcut. primary i Win+C, i used that before I reconfigured XF86audioplay as alternative binding.
[09:14] <djiezes> (just to see if it worked, and it did)
[09:14] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Try assigning Enter to "play/pause"
[09:14] <Slemming> then try assigning it to say Forward
[09:15] <Cosmo1> I am having a problem one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this?
[09:15] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It might not let me but I'll try
[09:15] <Slemming> Cosmo1: Do you have a bind to change layout that you're not aware of?
[09:15] <AndorinKato> Yeah, had to use Ctrl+Enter
[09:15] <Caleb_> Dvorak is really odd
[09:15] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Annnnd it does not work.
[09:15] <djiezes> Now i'm puzzled as to how i got it working ... & why the same procedure doesn't do it for AndorinKato
[09:16] <Boohbah> !ot
[09:16] <Slemming> AndorinKato: ctrl+enter shouldn't be picked up by the system, so obviously global keybinds does not work for amarok2
[09:16] <Alumin> holy cow it is way past my bedtime
[09:16] <Caleb_> You choose the layout in the installation prcess
[09:16] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I've been setting the shortcut to the global commands, not the alternate
[09:16] <Cosmo1> Slemming: not that I know of, and it keeps doing it at random times
[09:16] <umar> i can open a readonly file like "sudo vim filename" and edit it. how can i make text editors like 'gedit' 'eclipse' etc edit read-only files?
[09:16] <Slemming> Caleb_: Can change it too
[09:16]  * Alumin shakes his fist in the air at the trackpad
[09:16] <AndorinKato> Slemming: I tested Ctrl+Enter with Songbird
[09:16] <Slemming> Cosmo1: Are you positive it's random?
[09:16] <Caleb_> Yea
[09:16] <MooKow> lol, it's way past my bedtime too
[09:16] <Slemming> AndorinKato: test xf86playaudio with songbird rather
[09:16] <MooKow> going tos leep soon ^.^
[09:16] <djiezes> AndorinKato: oh, i've got the multimedia keys as alternate, maybe try the same.
[09:17] <AndorinKato> djiezes: K
[09:17] <Alumin> thanks a lot for the help with this, guys (even though it's still not working hehe)
[09:17] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and check if the primary key (win+c) works
[09:17] <umar> the above probelm prevents me from using eclipse on a project that is readonly. i wasn to edit it without changing permissions
[09:17] <Alumin> I have a USB mouse that works fine, so it's not epic fail at the moment
[09:17] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nope, still doesn't work.
[09:17] <djiezes> AndorinKato: what about the primary keybinding?
[09:17] <Caleb_> Cosmo1:Dvorak is something you cant pronounce.Qwerty is easily pronouncible
[09:17] <AndorinKato> djiezes: My primary is Space, which DOES work.
[09:18] <Alumin> my primary uses for the netbook are remote administration with SSH, and lounging on the couch playing nethack...neither of which require a mouse
[09:18] <Cosmo1> yes Caleb_ but dvorak is better
[09:18] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and you've got the xf86audioplay binded in gnome settings shortcuts as play/pauze too?
[09:18] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Yeppers
[09:18] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Though that's not the same?
[09:18] <Alumin> so it's not so bad...and I won't have to worry about the **** touchpad messing with my window focus while I'm typing YAY lol
[09:19] <djiezes> AndorinKato: then you've got the same settings as i do, except you have amarok2, i got 1.4
[09:19] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Your regular key works, it's the global bindings that are the problem?
[09:19] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Seems that way to me.
[09:20] <djiezes> AndorinKato: set it both in 'global shortcuts' and 'shortcuts'
[09:20] <djiezes> (or does amarok2 not have those 2 options?)
[09:20] <Guest13632> Is there an online software repository but like a webpage, not sudo-aptitude-get-program?
[09:20] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I can't, it only lets me assign XF8PlayAudio in one area at a time in Amarok
[09:20] <Flannel> Guest13632: to browse?
[09:21] <Guest13632> /nick PooIsYum
[09:21] <Guest13632> Ya
[09:21] <djiezes> AndorinKato: are you sure? I've got it in both.
[09:21] <Flannel> Guest13632: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <susbwoy> Hi, what program can I use to measure write performance on my harddrive?
[09:21] <djiezes> susbwoy: hddparm
[09:21] <Guest13632> http:packages.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <Guest13632> right?
[09:21] <susbwoy> djiezes: cheers
[09:21] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I'm sure, I just tried it again.
[09:22] <djiezes> AndorinKato: I'm starting to think it might be an amarok2 issue?
[09:22] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Except that it also doesn't work in Songbird.
[09:23] <djiezes> AndorinKato: maybe they both have issues? have you tried other apps, like rhythmbox or something?
[09:23] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I will now.
[09:23] <Glowball> Hi
[09:23] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nothing.
[09:23] <Glowball> I can find my shared Ubuntu files on my Windows machine, so Samba seems to be working fine, but where can I find them the other way round?
[09:23] <Slemming> AndorinKato: I wouldn't depend on songbird catching that
[09:23] <AndorinKato> Not from any of the keys.
[09:24] <thefeds> Can I make a USB installer with an Imation Cool USB flash drive?
[09:24] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Songbird normally /does/ work with the keys, though, since it's my primary media player on both computers; I just need to install a plugin for it to work
[09:24] <thefeds> !usb
[09:24] <ziroday> thefeds: should do
[09:24] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Btw, does this involve an update to the systems with components that haven't been restarted?
[09:24] <AndorinKato> Slemming: I don't know, how would I check that?
[09:25] <djiezes> AndorinKato: sry, now I'm really starting to run out of ideas. Only thing I can say is that I got it working after some fiddling. So: fiddle ... (?)
[09:25] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Also remember that these keys stopped working right after updating my system
[09:25] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Have you rebooted the computer since the problem came up?
[09:25] <Slemming> since the update*
[09:25] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Yes, I've shut it down and powered it back up multiple times; the update was a few weeks ago.
[09:25] <wisler> hi anyone
[09:25] <u_dparte> wisler, hi
[09:26] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Obviously not the problem then
[09:26] <wisler> i have a problem compiling samba3.3.6 for ubuntu can anyone help me?
[09:26] <AndorinKato> M'k
[09:26] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Getting 'desperate
[09:26] <Slemming> 'desperate'*
[09:26] <ziroday> wisler: what's wrong with 3.3.2?
[09:27] <ehsh> is there any program like google earth for Ubuntu?
[09:27] <indus> is firefox 3.5 a backport
[09:27] <Slemming> try running amarok2 from a terminal
[09:27] <thefeds> ziroday: it has an encrypted section of the USB
[09:27] <indus> hmm probably no since the newer ubuntu hasntbeen released
[09:27] <thyri> !AAI .g amarok
[09:27] <Slemming> and see if it says something interesting
[09:27] <u_dparte> indus, it's not release in the repos yet
[09:27] <AndorinKato> Slemming: If it comes to it I can always reinstall Ubuntu; I did that the other day with my PC, updated it and the keys work.
[09:27] <u_dparte> indus, i think you can get it from proposed repos though
[09:27] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Try sudo apt-get purge amarok
[09:27] <Slemming> then reinstall amarok
[09:27] <Slemming> first
[09:27] <Slemming> rather than reinstalling the OS
[09:28] <ziroday> thefeds: well as long as there is enough blank unpartitioned space for the usb creator to work
[09:28] <indus> u_dparte: hmm its in the regular repos in beta, so i hear it will be upgraded to final
[09:28] <indus> too many repos
[09:28] <AndorinKato> M'k
[09:28] <Slemming> indus: 3.5v4 is in repo
[09:28] <ehsh> is there any program like google earth for Ubuntu?
[09:28] <thefeds> Doesn't the OS need the first block of the USB to boot it
[09:28] <thyri> !ehsh .g ubuntu google earth
[09:28] <wisler> my pdc dont work
[09:28] <wisler> by login in all is ok
[09:28] <wisler>  wisler: but by logging out it cant renew the profile
[09:28] <thefeds> I think the first block is part of the encrypted part
[09:29] <Jordan_U> ehsh: There's google earth :)
[09:29] <thyri> .g ubuntu google earth
[09:29] <AAAI> thyri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[09:29] <djiezes> ehsh: there's: google earth :-)
[09:29] <Thingymebob> ehsh: iGoogle earth is in medibuntu repos
[09:29] <thefeds> I.E the OS can't read the part where ubuntu starts
[09:29] <thefeds> Isn't that right?
[09:29] <u_dparte> indus, yeah i had the beta and just last night one of my repos caught the actual release
[09:29] <djiezes> ehsh: it's in the medibuntu repository
[09:29] <Thingymebob> !medibuntu : ehsh
[09:29] <Slemming> ehsh: Google Earth or Marble is what wikipedia lists
[09:29] <Thingymebob> !medibuntu | ehsh
[09:29] <indus> u_dparte: hmm really>? proposed? or normal?
[09:30] <thyri> .g ubuntu dvd
[09:30] <AAAI> thyri: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[09:30] <u_dparte> indus, tbo honest not sure ... I have proposed plus several others from installs ... I believe it came from proposed
[09:30] <ehsh> i ont understand nothing
[09:30] <u_dparte> lemme check
[09:31] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's not letting me run any sudo commands, it says another process is using the administration directory... I'm going to reboot, brb
[09:31] <Slemming> u_dparte: Are you having any non-regular repos? Because apt-get update && apt-get install firefox-3.5 doesn't give me the latest
[09:31] <Slemming> AndorinKato: close synaptic
[09:31] <u_dparte> Slemming, yes I have some no standard repos
[09:31] <u_dparte> i'm looking to see which one it came from
[09:32] <indus> is opera in the repos?
[09:32] <indus> like third party or something , is that called partner
[09:32] <Slemming> Btw: Why does firefox-3.5 as a package depend essentially on firefox-3.0?
[09:32] <lesshaste> I've remove the /var/cache/debconf directory by mistake, how can I restore it? It makes apt-get install unhappy
[09:32] <thyri> .wik ubuntu opera
[09:32] <AAAI> "What programming tools does Ubuntu have?--<IP_ADDRESS> (talk) 01:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Computing/2008_June_11
[09:33] <thyri> .g ubuntu opera
[09:33] <AAAI> thyri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:33] <Slemming> lesshaste: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[09:33] <Thingymebob> ehsh: What don't you understand?
[09:33] <u_dparte> Slemming, indus : #deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:33] <lesshaste> Slemming: that gives ebconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[09:34] <Slemming> u_dparte: :) obviously
[09:34] <u_dparte> Slemming, indus : #deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:34] <lesshaste> Slemming: well.. debconf...
[09:34] <Slemming> are you getting ubufox icons or?
[09:34] <indus> u_dparte: thanks
[09:34] <u_dparte> works fine for me
[09:34] <ehsh> so linux is open source,how can i see the source,how can u change the source ?
[09:34] <u_dparte> i have the latest and haven't had any issues with it
[09:34] <lesshaste> ehsh: join #linux
[09:34] <johnibanez> Hello, I'm a Windows user and I'm planning to move to Ubuntu.
[09:34] <Thingymebob> ehsh: download the source packages
[09:34] <lesshaste> Slemming: can I just reinstall it somehow?
[09:35] <indus> ziroday: i installed ff 3.5 from mozilla but it wont run :)
[09:35] <Slemming> indus: run it from a terminal, does its output say anything?
[09:36] <indus> Slemming: ya trying now
[09:36] <Slemming> lesshaste: I'd presume apt-get install --reinstall debconf doesn't work
[09:36] <AndorinKato> Slemming: No good, I purged and reinstalled it and it still insists on not working, and I ought to point out that the ubuntu-restricted-extras package also isn't letting me play my .mp3s in Amarok
[09:36] <indus> Slemming: which exe should i run iam thinking
[09:36] <Thingymebob> ehsh: sudo apt-get source packagename
[09:36] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Meaning, it should, but it isn't.
[09:36] <indus> Slemming: run mozilla.sh? or firefox-bin
[09:37] <Thingymebob> will put the source package in you current directory
[09:37] <wisler> anyone help me to compile samba-3.3.6 for ubuntu 9.04????????????
[09:37] <Slemming> indus: I'd say firefox-3.5
[09:37] <indus> Slemming: error when loading shared libraries libxul
[09:37] <Jordan_U> Slemming: firefox-3.5 doesn't depend on firefox-3
[09:37] <indus> Slemming: even though its there in the ff folder
[09:37] <bright4_chris> Anyone know how to automatically run a custom script on insertion of a CD on an Ubuntu install without GUI ?
[09:37] <ehsh> E: Unable to find a source package for packagename