[00:00] <frugi> is there a release party channel around ?
[00:00] <franciel> ! ldap ssh
[00:00] <wizards> ? party channel ? what is it? :D
[00:00] <IdleOne> !party
[00:01] <KM0201> !party
[00:01] <itaylor57> frugi: #ubuntu-release=party
[00:01]  * KM0201 glares..
[00:01] <jpk> escott: It's the new one.  The old one is still on the disk, but commented out in /etc/fstab, and isn't listed in swapon -s anymore.
[00:02] <Zahrada> I tried booking this band, but for some absolutely bonkers reason, they're not within my budget range: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[00:03] <prakas> how many days a ubuntu system booting from a usb pen drive last considering such a drive has a fixed number of write cycles.
[00:03] <IdleOne> Zahrada: Please don't post irrelevant links in here
[00:04] <timdot> prakas.. quite some time still, i'd imagine
[00:04] <harrihu> Hello
[00:04] <harrihu> again
[00:04] <Zahrada> I mispasted IdleOne.
[00:05] <IdleOne> Zahrada: odd you wqould mispaste a rickroll
[00:05] <IdleOne> would*
[00:05] <IdleOne> Zahrada: anyway please keep comments Ubuntu support related.
[00:06] <kyle____> lease install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution - that is what it says when i try to run the installer for my audio driver
[00:06] <kyle____> E: Unable to locate package kernel-headers-2.6.35-28-generic-pae
[00:06] <kyle____> how do i fix this?
[00:07] <prakas> timdot: i am not writing to any directory. just using the machine as a nat gateway
[00:07] <Zahrada> It's true though. I'm part of a ngo that's organising a music festival in my local town...
[00:07] <Zahrada> for unicef
[00:08] <timdot> prakas: i'd imagine a good few years - i may be wrong though and it's impossible to predict exactly
[00:08] <prakas> hmm
[00:08] <harrihu> Sorry to be a bother but I'm having issues connecting to wifi on ubuntu 10 something with my netgear pci 802.11g wifi card. It shows a wifi symbol up near the clock in the corner with a red ! and has grayed out wired connection thing in the list and doesn't acknowledge wifi there. I can set wifi settings but at no point does it give me the option to connect.
[00:08] <zvacet> kyle____: install headers from synaptic
[00:08] <fero> cf
[00:08] <kyle____> it says they are installed
[00:08] <prakas> is there a way to clone this usb pen drive incase it fails?so that i can use the other pen drive to boot
[00:09] <zvacet> kyle____: this specific package kernel-headers-2.6.35-28-generic-pae
[00:09] <pindropper> harrihu: i was having similar problems. i updated using the update manager... and now it works fine.
[00:09] <tactix> question: shouldn't the command "lsmod" and "modprobe -l" give the same output for loaded modules?
[00:09] <pooltable> 11.4 come out on 28 apr 2011 right at what time midnight edt ???
[00:09] <timdot> prakas: yeah, you can use the 'dd' command for that
[00:09] <kyle____> yes
[00:09] <jpk> prakas: `man dd` might help you.
[00:09] <escott> jpk, was thinking that maybe resume was trying to load a stale image from the old swap partition
[00:09] <prakas> hmmm ty
[00:09] <harrihu> pindropper it's not hooked up to the internet
[00:09] <Pici> pooltable: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[00:10] <zvacet> kyle____: sory then I can help you
[00:10] <zvacet> *can not
[00:10] <harrihu> but thanks for the suggestion pin
[00:10] <pooltable> pici just wonder fit it had a set time thanks
[00:10] <pooltable> it
[00:10] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from  a NAS that cannot do nfs4.  My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused
[00:10] <pindropper> harrihu: theres your problem then. if the internets not on but your wifi is... strange as it is, at least in my experience, ubuntu refuses to connect
[00:10] <LinSteveH> mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>,clientaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>'" before it fails.   How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:11] <gedas> guys, I couldn't find the answer on ubuntu formus, and I am not trolling. Do you think ok-smelling sandwitches are still ok to eat after staying for a day in room temperature (version - smoked ham, ubuntu 10.10). (I just read the IRC guidelines, they didn't seem to forbid this)
[00:11] <harrihu> no no it's not connecting to the router not just the internet
[00:11] <harrihu> I'm on a windows machine now
[00:11] <pooltable> how long will 10.10 wil have support ???/
[00:11] <ohzie> gedas: We don't troubleshoot sandwiches. :(
[00:11] <gedas> ahh, sorry about that, i'll have to find a more suitable room to ask:(
[00:11] <cybrhuman> gedas: eat the before they eat you
[00:12] <pindropper> harrihu: thats what i said, if the routers not connected to the internet, ubuntu sometimes wont connect to your wifi either.
[00:12] <RandomAndGone> Does anyone know when 11.4 goes live? It's the 28th in London.
[00:12] <harrihu> The router is connected to the internet thats how I'm on
[00:12] <zvacet> pooltable: 18 months
[00:12] <zzecool> it 28th in Greece too :P
[00:12] <IdleOne> !party | RandomAndGone
[00:12] <pindropper> harrihu: you might also want to try and do "edit connections" and add one in manually and try.
[00:13] <jpk> escott: Ah, I see.  I figure it's something like that.  I just haven't yet been able to find where/how the thing that resumes finds the stuff in swap to verify that it's looking in the right place.
[00:13] <pindropper> harrihu: is your wireless network a hidden one by any chance? try create new wireless, or hidden wireless connection and see if that helps
[00:13] <harrihu> There is nothing wrong with the wifi router it's all with the linux machine
[00:14] <pindropper> harrihu: read my previous two suggestions
[00:14] <harrihu> if there was something wrong with the router I wouldn't be able to connect on this other pc
[00:14] <harrihu> thanks for the suggestions pindropper
[00:14] <harrihu> looking into it
[00:14] <yuanye> i want to change the close botton of chrome to the right
[00:14] <yuanye> for help
[00:15] <pindropper> i am trying to figure out a way to execute a command on a double key press. Is this at all possible through bash? The keyboard shortcut mappings don't provide a way to capture double key presses.
[00:15] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from a NAS that cannot do nfs4. My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused	mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>,clientaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>'" before it fails. How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:15] <harrihu> wireless network is not hidden and I did try adding one manually
[00:15] <pindropper> harrihu: and...?
[00:15] <harrihu> it never even gives me the button "connect"
[00:16] <harrihu> it just gives me an add button and ok
[00:16] <harrihu> and a delete etc
[00:16] <harrihu> I never see the network listed and it's not hidden
[00:16] <prakas> will dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb copy the entire file systems in sda to sdb with boot sectors preserved?
[00:16] <harrihu> I don't think the wifi card works with the OS
[00:16] <pindropper> harrihu: does it even attempt to connect? you know once you've added the network... does it try to connect?
[00:17] <cybrhuman> prakas: think so
[00:17] <harrihu> nope
[00:17] <prakas> considering sda and sdb are usb removable disks (pen drives)
[00:17] <pindropper> harrihu: did it ever work?
[00:17] <harrihu> nope
[00:17] <KM0201> harrihu: what device is it, do you know?
[00:17] <LinSteveH> harrihu: What does the output look like with "iwconfig wlan0"?
[00:18] <pindropper> harrihu: ah . in that case there is a very good chance you need proprietary drivers. which you wont know until you connect. you might want to try connecting through a lan cable and get it to work.
[00:18] <escott> jpk, but from what you said it appears that is not happening
[00:18] <harrihu> whats iwconfig wlan0?
[00:18] <robert05ad> iwconfig is like ifconfig but for wireless I believe
[00:18] <LinSteveH> harrihu: it is a comman line.
[00:19] <robert05ad> iwconfig wlan0 will tell you the status of wlan0
[00:19] <harrihu> ok
[00:19] <harrihu> well it's almost impossible to get this machine hooked up wired
[00:19] <harrihu> I could try but if theres any other way
[00:19] <robert05ad> what problem you have with wired?
[00:20] <harrihu> the router is upstairs very far away from the box with no plugs and this box is built into a home theater system
[00:20] <pooltable> where is a place to buy ubuntu 11.4 ???
[00:20] <robert05ad> ah ok
[00:20] <pindropper> harrihu: i know.. its a bit of a fix if you have problems with wired. but really, ubuntu will notify you of possible problems or updates once you connect. maybe a phone/usb/3g/edge sharing , even for 10 mins might help.
[00:20] <LinSteveH> harrihu: If you getnoting useful from iwconfig, do a google with "{name of wifi card} +ubuntu +driver +download"
[00:21] <robert05ad> pooltable, check ubuntu's website, they have resellers
[00:21] <cybrhuman> pooltable: there is no need to buy it, just download it when it is released
[00:21] <harrihu> hmm you know what I'll give it a try
[00:21] <LinSteveH> harrihu: getnoting==get nothing
[00:21] <robert05ad> when you type iwconfig wlan0 what do you get?
[00:21] <harrihu> I have a usb wifi stick and if that fails I'll take the time to get the computer up there
[00:21] <zvacet> pooltable: https://shop.canonical.com/
[00:22] <robert05ad> running in vmware? ?
[00:22] <harrihu> one moment robert05ad I'll try that.
[00:22] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from a NAS that cannot do nfs4. My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused	mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>,clientaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>'" before it fails. How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:23] <pooltable> zvacet i just see 10.10 i want 11.4
[00:23] <LinSteveH> I;ve heard that 10* is a little buggy in nfs.  Does anyone concur?
[00:23] <robert05ad> oh oh Lin, I know that answer... but not off the top of my head lol it's a mount option but i forget
[00:23] <cybrhuman> pooltable: 11.04 isn't released yet as far as I know
[00:23] <robert05ad> I just removed my ubuntu from my VM machine so I cant help to remember it lol
[00:23] <robert05ad> waiting on 11.04
[00:23] <rww> cybrhuman: correct
[00:24] <robert05ad> none are released yet
[00:24] <pooltable> cybrhuman i see
[00:24] <LinSteveH> robert05ad: I have "nfs" not "nfs4" as my mount type.
[00:24] <dibs> Hey all. I'm out in New Zealand and it's the 28th, how do I get from Mav to Natty?
[00:24] <top_ramen> can someone help me real quick. I think i am doing something wrong with setting up my live USB
[00:24] <robert05ad> right lin
[00:24] <rww> dibs: It's not released yet.
[00:24] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: Whatcha doing?
[00:25] <robert05ad> shoot regretting removing it now..
[00:25] <prakas> top_ramen: just put a regular cd and install to the usb disk
[00:25] <robert05ad> try man mount
[00:25] <zvacet> pooltable: 11.04 will be out today so you will have chance to buy it
[00:25] <dibs> rww: But it's supposed to be out today yeah?
[00:25] <robert05ad> yeah Dibs
[00:25] <robert05ad> few hours yet
[00:25] <rww> dibs: It's due out some time in the period that it's April 28th somewhere in the world.
[00:25] <top_ramen> I but 10.10 on a usb and use the usb install exe thats on the ubuntu.com/download page to set the usb up
[00:25] <zvacet> dibs: depends on time zone  :)
[00:25] <pooltable> here another location for al http://distrowatch.com/
[00:25] <pooltable> all
[00:26] <dibs> sweet, anyone know where a countdown is
[00:26] <prakas> i use 7.04 fiesty fawn lol
[00:26] <robert05ad> when 10 came out we were all sitting in here until like 2 am lol, (central time)
[00:26] <top_ramen> but my computer is not recongizing it as a bootable usb
[00:26] <rww> dibs: There is no set time, hence no countdown.
[00:26] <dibs> dammit, I was hoping to get an hour or two down time while I upgrade. Gah, will have to get back to work
[00:26] <jpk> escott: I guess what I mean is some resume code goes, "let's see if there's an image in the old swap partition... oh, wait, it's not there anymore.  Oh well, just do a normal boot."  Then later on when something looks at the new swap partition, it sees an image in there and goes, "What's this crap?  We're doing a normal boot."  Then clears it out.  Or something.  My biggest enemy, here, is I don't know how resume works yet. :-P
[00:27] <robert05ad> lol dibs
[00:27] <dibs> Is upgrding using the update-manager -d risky? like it will use the same repo yeah?
[00:27] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: I think that you need to explicitly copy the 0th sector from the cd (cdimage) to the usb.
[00:27] <pooltable> what time was 10.10 out ?
[00:27] <top_ramen> Lin, ummm what?
[00:27] <escott> jpk, did you leave the old swap partition unchanged, you could write a new filesystem on top of it
[00:27] <uncmar> 3 in the morning  Next stupid question.
[00:27] <prakas> i still prefer 7.04 lol
[00:27] <top_ramen> uncmar, whats your name?
[00:27] <dibs> Anyone got Mark's number, let's take this to the top
[00:28] <prakas> it is more lightweight
[00:28] <prakas> 10.10 takes a lot of time to load
[00:28] <robert05ad> hey Lin, did you try mount -t nfs option?
[00:28] <rww> !party
[00:28] <uncmar> 10.10 = 10 of 2010 or October.
[00:28] <robert05ad> instead of -t nfs4
[00:29] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: I think that you need to do "dd if={cd|cdimage} of={usb location} count=1
[00:29] <uncmar> top_ramen: my name is annoyed beyond belief, so.. Um.  wann come stay in my area.  we got lots of tornadoes to go, round and round fer ya.
[00:29] <pooltable> no what time of the day ?
[00:29] <_chun> join #python
[00:29] <_chun> whoops
[00:29] <pooltable> i know 11.4= 2011 apr
[00:29] <zvacet> uncmar: 10.10= october 2010
[00:29] <top_ramen> uncmar, I am in kansas... im good lol
[00:30] <Alterno> Hia
[00:30] <Alterno> Banshee media player won't play files
[00:30] <LinSteveH> robert05ad: Yes, I did...it still tries to force vers=4 onto the commandline.
[00:30] <Alterno> Banshee media player won't play files, remains idle, why ?
[00:30] <zvacet> uncmar: sorry it is 2010 october
[00:31] <Alterno> Banshee media player won't play files, remains idle, why ?
[00:31] <jpk> escott: Yeah, besides unmounting/swapoff'ing it, I left it alone.
[00:31] <uncmar> 6.06 should have come out on 6.6.6  It would have been a triplet but  more impressive, 6-6 1947? was Doomsday.
[00:31] <uncmar> Or rather, D-Day.
[00:31] <LinSteveH> Alterno: does any sound program work, or just banshee is busted?
[00:31] <KidDeath> Good evening everyone :)
[00:32] <hiexpo> hey is there a command to flush the cache
[00:32] <uncmar> anyhow. pooltable I don't know what time of day any of the releases where. sorry.
[00:32] <Alterno> just banshee it seems, i have to re import files to ake it work
[00:32] <zvacet> uncmar: little bit of topic don´t you think
[00:32] <uncmar> hiexpo: which cashe?
[00:32] <top_ramen> Lin, can you check your queries
[00:32] <Alterno> just banshee it seems, i have to re import files to make it work
[00:32] <escott> jpk, i don't buy the proposed source of the error you suggested, but if you want to be sure i would make that and ext4 partition
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: cache of what?
[00:32] <Alterno> shows idle stats atm
[00:32] <Devil999> hi all
[00:32] <LinSteveH> top_ramen: Queries??
[00:32] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, my ram
[00:32] <uncmar> zvacet: nope, My 6.06 is currently broken, so right on the topic of why I'm here.
[00:32] <robert05ad> Hello Devil999
[00:33] <top_ramen> Lin, Yeah i sent you a query
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: do you mean swap space? If you flush the ram then the system will cease to be
[00:33] <Devil999> how's it going? any news for 11.04?
[00:33] <zvacet> uncmar: why do you use unsupported version
[00:33] <LinSteveH> {blush} not knowing what it was, I closed the tab.
[00:33] <top_ramen> Lin, sent again ^^
[00:33] <zvacet> uncmar: do you use server
[00:33] <uncmar> because it was a running server.  that I didn't want to take time to upgrade.
[00:34] <KidDeath> Why is it when I listen the channels on XChat, I can't join anything? x.x
[00:34] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, well after like today i had 146.00 gig in ram being used and only have 2 gig ram
[00:34] <uncmar> spending a DAY to upgrade/revive a system from an upgrade attempt stinks.
[00:34] <Alterno> any idea?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: can you give the output of:   free -m
[00:34] <zvacet> uncmar: is there any reason not to upgrade now
[00:34] <uncmar> zvacet: so, I just answered both questions with one answer.
[00:35] <zvacet> uncmar: ok
[00:35] <uncmar> nope, Right out of ubuntu. though I must admint Ubuntu wasn't the reason for the failure.  *I AM*
[00:35] <uncmar> *admit
[00:36] <jpk> escott: Ah, I see.  I'll try that, then.
[00:36] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i rebooted so not anymore but here it is  http://pastebin.com/hStiPUnS
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: when it's high, rerun it
[00:36] <mjs> hi all...looking for a little hand holding using webmin to configure proftpd...all i want to do is allow a single user (not myself, or anonymous access to my /home/user/Pictures directory?
[00:36] <uncmar> I'd switch to fedora or.. well, I could eventually think of another, but I'm not ready to do a near Complete relearn of tools.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: you are only using 550Mb. You have 1884Mb available and have 1360Mb free
[00:38] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, yes right now but as i do stuff it will rise maybe takes a day or two
[00:38] <Iker> Hola :)
[00:39] <uncmar> Now I remember why I'm here.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: if its only cache then its fine, unused ram is wasted ram
[00:39] <Afteraffekt> when building from source, and doing autogen.sh is there a way to force, and make it finish, regardless of missing dependancies?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: just watch the right hand value on the "-/+ buffers/cache" line
[00:39] <uncmar> of course I could attempt to poke around the net.  Need to know system requirements of 8.04 Live CD.  I won't dare attempt 9.04 or 10.04
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: that is the actual free ram
[00:40] <uncmar> I'm limited to 256Mb of ram.
[00:40] <pdc> hhhhhhh
[00:40] <linuxman410> need help with my display only has one resolution
[00:40] <fieris> what time is the launch of Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[00:40] <Pici> fieris: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[00:40] <fieris> okey thank.!
[00:41] <uncmar> Hmm, it is time for 11.04.  Time flies.  I hadn't give it any thought.
[00:41] <linuxman410> my video is intel 845ge built on board video
[00:41] <KidDeath> Wait.. I haven't been in the loop for a while. 11.04 is launching soon? :o
[00:42] <S-M-Gl> hello, can i update from 10.10 to 11.04 now, or do i have to wait until tomorrow?
[00:42] <uncmar> My upgrade attempt from 8.04 to 10.04 exploded, so I moved over to debian.  Closer to the trunk of the tree for stability.  Low and behold I have another dead ubuntu.
[00:42] <mknarr> KidDeath, it is supposed to launch tomorrow sime thme
[00:42] <mknarr> time*
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> linuxman410: run:  sudo lshw -C display     websearch for the product line to find guides. You may need an xorg.conf to make it work ok
[00:42] <KidDeath> Fascinating, looks like I have something new to play around with. :)
[00:42] <mknarr> :D
[00:42] <linuxman410> can someome tell me how to fix my display
[00:43] <uncmar> the alternates are installs only?
[00:43] <mknarr> drivers
[00:43] <linuxman410> ok
[00:43] <uncmar> linuxman410: in the old days we would just smack the TV harder to fix the display. Or call the TV repair man.
[00:43] <mknarr> lol @ uncmar
[00:44]  * uncmar shuts up.  I've spotted enough ill manorred sarcasm for one day.
[00:46] <w30> uncmar, or go to the hardware store and use their tube tester, which were geared to finding slightly poor tubes so as  to sell more  tubes.
[00:47] <crims0n> hola amigos
[00:47] <LinSteveH> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to do an nfs mount from a NAS that cannot do nfs4. My mount fails, and when I put -vvvvv as a flag, I see that the out put says, "mount.nfs: mount(2): Connection refused	mount.nfs: trying text-based options 'vers=4,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>,clientaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>'" before it fails. How do I get it NOT to use nfs4??
[00:47] <LinSteveH> ... and yes, I use -t nfs, NOT -t nfs4.
[00:48] <amalgama> a question : "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" doesnt work anymore???
[00:49] <Pici> amalgama: It works fine here.
[00:49] <botcity> amalgama: say what?..
[00:50] <Vorenii> any idea how long itll take before 11.04 is released?
[00:50] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | make sure you understand what its supposed to do though amalgama
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> !11.04
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Vorenii: ^
[00:50] <Pici> Vorenii: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[00:51] <dam85_> someone use lighttpd ?
[00:51] <amalgama> hmmm... i was using dist-upgrade in order to go from one version to another
[00:52] <amalgama> !upgrade
[00:53] <dam85_> include "/home/lighttpd/vhosts/*/conf/vhost.conf" it's wrong
[00:53] <dam85_> how can i correct it?
[00:53] <dam85_> i have to change *
[00:53] <dam85_> with * I mean all the directories inside there
[00:54] <katsrc> hey, can someone recommend me a good PPA for GIMP 2.7.2?
[00:56] <kaushal> Hi
[00:56] <kaushal> is there a way to know when Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS has been installed ?
[00:57] <kaushal> on a specific server
[00:57] <Alastaur> when or if?
[00:57] <Alastaur> not sure what  you're asking
[00:58] <kaushal> Alastaur: for desktop we have installer.log
[00:58] <Ziber> In ubuntu, is there any way to sync all files between two folders? As in, I want them to be exactly the same, and they mostly already are. Rather than recopying everything, is there a tool to just recopy whats changed?
[00:58] <NxtGenCowboy> Can someone recommend a good dock (docky,awn,cario-dock,etc)?
[00:58] <Ampelbein> Ziber: rsync can do that
[00:59] <mknarr> NxtGenCowboy, i loke cario-dock
[00:59] <mknarr> like*
[00:59] <Ziber> Ampelbein: hm, thanks
[00:59] <NxtGenCowboy> mknarr, I havent tried that one yet.. the last 2 I tried.. really had a good chunk of bugs when compiz was running
[00:59] <Devil999> Ziber, i use Unison. I think it's simpler, and has GUI. Your choice!
[01:00] <meisth0th> hello
[01:00] <PedroLRNeves> oi
[01:00] <meisth0th> when will 11.04 be available for download?
[01:00] <mknarr> tomorrow some time
[01:00] <Ziber> Devil999: rsync works, thanks tho
[01:00] <mknarr> i mean the 28th*
[01:01] <meisth0th> mknarr, what's the date there?
[01:01] <mknarr> meisth0th, 27 8pm
[01:01] <meisth0th> Thu Apr 28 03:01:20 EEST 2011
[01:01] <sdegutis> hello. i am using some kind of irc client.
[01:02] <Devil999> sdegutis, is that a question?
[01:02] <sdegutis> not really, no.
[01:02] <sdegutis> im writing it, too.
[01:02] <sdegutis> and im using it.
[01:03] <sdegutis> just thought id let you know.
[01:03] <Devil999> ok, then...
[01:03] <mknarr> where is the main premissions file located on ubuntu 10.04
[01:03] <usr13> sdegutis: You sure are.
[01:03] <sdegutis> thanks.
[01:03] <sdegutis> i try.
[01:03] <sdegutis> its not very good though.
[01:03] <Ampelbein> mknarr: can you elaborate? what are you looking for?
[01:03] <sdegutis> but thats ok because its mine.
[01:03] <usr13> sdegutis: Looks like it's working like a charm.
[01:04] <EnderW> Any1 know when 11.04 is coming live?
[01:04] <mknarr> Im looking for the file that holds all of the premissions  and or user group info
[01:04] <sdegutis> well, you arent on this side of it.
[01:04] <sdegutis> on this side its pretty crappy.
[01:04] <Ph0n7r1c> hi can someone tell me how i can get synaptic manager to start
[01:04] <usr13> mknarr: Well, there is /etc/groups
[01:04] <sdegutis> its ui is largely html+css+jquery, even though its a desktop app.
[01:04] <Devil999> sdegutis, that's really something. gratz.
[01:05] <sdegutis> well, not really.
[01:05] <mknarr> usr13,  says it dosnt exsist
[01:05] <sdegutis> it doesnt work on ubuntu though.
[01:05] <usr13> Ph0n7r1c: Alt-F2 synaptic
[01:05] <sdegutis> you guys just talk a lot, which helps me look at my client :)
[01:05] <sdegutis> especially the scrolling and stuff
[01:05] <usr13> mknarr: Well, there is /etc/group
[01:05] <usr13> mknarr: Sorry, typo
[01:05] <itguru> Does Gwibber crap out for anyone after a few weeks?
[01:06] <Devil999> sdegutis, sure thing... just stick around. a lot of talk going to happen.
[01:06] <sdegutis> usually
[01:06] <sdegutis> thanks :)
[01:06] <sdegutis> i like making useless stuff :(
[01:06] <mknarr> I need to find an informative doc on how to work the user accs / groups ...
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> ph@Juliana:~$ sudo synaptic
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> sh: kde-config: not found
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> sh: kde-config: not found
[01:06] <Ph0n7r1c> Segmentation fault
[01:06] <FloodBot1> Ph0n7r1c: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <usr13> mknarr: man group
[01:08] <Ph0n7r1c> its say kde-config not found how can that be i am using gnome
[01:08] <sdegutis> oh one thing i like about my client: when you send a msg to a channel which yo dont have permissions for (like ##linux whe you arent voiced), it gives your message a strikethrough
[01:09] <ogre> I seem to remember a website with deb packages for ubuntu. I tried installing ettercap-ng with the repos, but it errors out every time. I need that deb package or to install from source. Anyone know the name of the site?
[01:09] <usr13> mknarr: man useradd          man groupadd
[01:09] <ogre> n/m I found it
[01:10] <usr13> sdegutis: That's useful
[01:11] <usr13> ogre: :) sometimes we jog our memory just by formulating questions.
[01:11] <mknarr> What is the difference between the file "group" and "group-"
[01:11] <mknarr> im guessing the one with the - is a backup?
[01:11] <EnderW> Does 11.04 go live tonight?
[01:12] <usr13> mknarr: right
[01:12] <mknarr> it goes live the 20 sometime
[01:12] <EnderW> woot
[01:12] <mknarr> the 28***
[01:12] <sdegutis> kinda..
[01:12] <EnderW> I cant wait
[01:12] <sdegutis> although it doesnt have private messaging yet
[01:12] <crims0n> lolwut
[01:12] <crims0n> i forgot it's so soon
[01:12] <EnderW> What are the major changes for 11.04?
[01:12] <usr13> sdegutis: Well, get back to work!
[01:13] <Roydi> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-11.04 <-- "Expected:
[01:13] <Roydi>     12 minutes ago"
[01:13] <usr13> EnderW: They are widespread and often.
[01:13] <usr13> EnderW: (...sorry, couldn't resist...)
[01:13] <mmu_man> plop
[01:13] <Roydi> What's the time? (I'm in europe... ;))
[01:13] <EnderW> lawl
[01:13] <AsSlowAsHell> im looking for a good command line sound processing tool.  something CLI like sox but im looking for a specific feature, very slight audio length expansion/contraction.  basically, i have an audio source that gets 1 second off sync of another one after ~4 hours.  this means i need 3.33 samples out of 48000 removed from the slower source.  does anyone know of a proggy that can help me do that
[01:13] <AsSlowAsHell> ?
[01:14] <mmu_man> anyone can tell me if apt: links work when using :// ? like apt://build-essential ?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> Roydi: europe spans MANY timezones
[01:14] <usr13> Roydi: 2:14
[01:14] <usr13> Roydi: (... sorry, again, I couldn't resist...)
[01:15] <mknarr> Would it matter if i edit the group file  to display eachgroup on a diff line ?
[01:15] <ssfdre38> how long till 11.04 is out?
[01:15] <oem> /usr/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with code 256 what is it and how do i fix it
[01:15] <mmu_man> ... it kinda violates the spirit of the RFCs but dokuwiki thinks apt is a namespace if I don't use :// :(
[01:15] <usr13> mknarr: they are already on separate lines.
[01:15] <mknarr> hmm weird  i DLed the file from my server to look at it
[01:16] <mknarr> and everything is on 1 line
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> ssfdre38: ask in #ubuntu+1 natty isofftopic here
[01:16] <Roydi> ActionParsnip, my timezone isn't important for my question :) Okay, let's ask a different way - When will Natty release in MY timezone (GMT+1)? :)
[01:16] <usr13> mknarr: With what app. are you viewing it?
[01:16] <Roydi> Sorry ;)
[01:16] <mknarr> usr13, notepad
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Roydi: ask in #ubuntu+1 natty is offtopic here
[01:16] <usr13> mknarr:  That is why.
[01:16] <crims0n> notepad+ needs a linux build
[01:17] <usr13> mknarr: i suppose you would have to toggle wordwrap on or of or something... I dono....
[01:17] <Guest53833>  hello room
[01:18]  * itguru feels a bit excited ....
[01:18]  * itguru runs date on cli
[01:18] <mknarr> Im guessing that when im viewing the group  doc that if there isnt a usr/acc type beside a group it isnt in use?
[01:18] <usr13> itguru: Just another day in the life of a Ubuntu community....  :-)
[01:18] <itguru> It's THURSDAY!
[01:19] <reeceb> Anybody know how to connect a logitech C210 webcam to ubuntu? I'm having nothing but headaches
[01:19] <Guest53833> what are you guy s up to and whats new on ubuntu
[01:19] <mknarr> hammer
[01:19] <Guest53833> ?
[01:19] <mknarr> ?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> itguru: it's the day after WEDNESADY
[01:19] <usr13> mknarr: Just means that no one has joined the group yet.
[01:19] <escott> mknarr, could be in use on the fs though
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> itguru: welcome to the calendar
[01:19] <itguru> ActionParsnip: True, but *this* thursday is special :)
[01:19] <mknarr> escott, aah true
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> itguru: true, but not yet
[01:20] <escott> ie the root
[01:20] <brisky83> hi everybody
[01:20] <oem> /usr/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with code 256 what is it and how do i fix it
[01:20] <usr13> escott:  yea that's right
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> reeceb: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides. Logitech refuse to support linux so I suggest you avoid their products
[01:20] <xiambax> How much of a performance increase would i find if i installed a ssd in my desktop
[01:21] <xiambax> i dont really use it for anything intense as it is
[01:21] <brisky83> somebody use 3 monitor with 2 gpu on ubuntu?
[01:21] <itguru> ActionParsnip: Well, according to my calender, the position of the sun, and BBC News, I should be re installing all my test machines to 11.04 stable :)
[01:21] <escott> reeceb, have you checked the v4l website
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> xiambax: loading apps and the OS will improve
[01:21] <mknarr> should i be making say a user called WEB for my web stuff and adding the group "www-data" to it ?
[01:21] <xiambax> brb i will check newegg for prices
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> itguru: all that is moot, depends when the servers get updated
[01:21]  * itguru hits F5 in his browser ...
[01:21] <itguru> Dammit! Still 10.10 !
[01:22] <robert05ad> lol
[01:22] <escott> itguru, why not just update-manager -d
[01:22] <itguru> ActionParsnip: I'm just screwing around, I was kinda hoping that this time it woulda happened at midnight, but hey
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> itguru: 11.04 here ;)
[01:22] <reeceb> lsusb sees the camera but I don't know how to get to it
[01:22] <itguru> no worries, been running beta for weeks
[01:22] <itguru> !?
[01:22] <escott> reeceb, and you have v4l installed
[01:22]  * itguru hits F5 rapidly
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> reeceb: thats just the ID, use it to find uides
[01:23] <robert05ad> Where you at Actionparrship so I can get it too lol
[01:23] <wtracy1> itguru: while true; do date; sleep 1; done
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> *guides
[01:23] <hiexpo> reeceb, cheese
[01:23] <reeceb> I just installed ubuntu this last week for an embedded systems project so I'm still learning the terminal stuff
[01:23] <reeceb> I'm not sure if I have V4l installed
[01:24] <escott> reeceb install synaptic sudo apt-get synaptic, and then use it to install cheese and the v4l2 tools
[01:24] <usr13> oem is gone...?
[01:24] <itguru> wtracy1: hehe! nice! But sleep is for wimps - i'm gonna have all my desktop users asking me where is the awesome new interface that I've been rubbing in their faces on my dell tablet for weeks
[01:24] <escott> reeceb, also check the v4l website to see if your camera version is supported
[01:24] <reeceb> Sweet. Thanks guys. I'll start there.
[01:25] <brisky83> somebody know how configure 2 gpu and 3 monitor? i will install natty, but i dont know about that :(
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> zzecool: please don't away like that
[01:26] <xiambax> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139428 this should be more then enough to save my OS on
[01:27] <robert05ad> 16gb?
[01:27] <brisky83> somebody know how configure 2 gpu and 3 monitor? i will install natty, but i dont know about that :(
[01:27] <robert05ad> you can get a 32 gig usb drive lol
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> robert05ad: I've had it since alpha 2
[01:27] <robert05ad> oh ok
[01:27] <robert05ad> I just bought the vertex 2 160, looove it
[01:27] <robert05ad> should have waited on the vertex 3 lol
[01:28] <basso> oh noes, its the 28th!
[01:28] <robert05ad> not yet basso
[01:28] <basso> robert05ad: for me it is! :D
[01:28] <KaAtta> i need a little help setting up conky. I understand how to create a .conkyrc config file. but i downloaded a setup that is in LUA format and it tells me to put it in ~/.conky (but i dont see a .conky file in my home file)
[01:28] <itguru> basso: your in good company, we're all waiting :)
[01:29] <basso> ^^
[01:29] <brisky83> somebody know how configure 2 gpu and 3 monitor? i will install natty, but i dont know about that :(
[01:29] <robert05ad> KaAtta, I have no idea what that even is lol
[01:30] <escott> brisky83, thats a rather exotic configuration, are these ati or nvidia
[01:30] <hiexpo> KaAtta, you gotta make a .conkyrc file
[01:30] <mknarr> Captainkrtek, whats up man
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> KaAtta: the file needs creating, you ca find sample files on the web
[01:30] <KaAtta> hiexpo, hte conky setup i downloaded is in lua format, and it wants me to place it in the .conky directory. which is supposed to be in my user folder, but im not seeing it
[01:30] <brisky83> escott: i have 2 ati, in a mainbord asus rog formula IV
[01:31]  * itguru believes the digital gates should be opened according to the nasa time servers date!
[01:31] <Captainkrtek> hey mknarr
[01:31] <brisky83> escott: 3870 and 4850 ati
[01:31] <qin> KaAtta: la | .con*
[01:31] <Captainkrtek> just got home from work
[01:31] <KaAtta> hiexpo, ActionParsnip here is the link with the file i downloaded and the instructions http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/02/6-awesome-conky-configs-that-just-works.html
[01:31] <robert05ad> ati is notoriously bad for linux support.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> KaAtta: .conkyrc is a file, not a folder
[01:31] <robert05ad> those wont sli brisky
[01:31] <xiambax> usb wouldnt be faster then SATA ssd
[01:32] <todd_dsm> Is there documentation that explains how to use OpenLDAP utilities with OpenSSL instead of GnuTLS?
[01:32] <hiexpo> KaAtta, when you create a file with . first it is hidden so open open folder click view and than show hidden files
[01:32] <qin> KaAtta: Ups, sorry: la | grep .con*
[01:32] <KaAtta> ActionParsnip, i linked the URL i was going off of, could u take a look and see if u can understand what it wants form me?
[01:32] <KaAtta> hiexpo, i have enabled hidden folders already
[01:33] <hiexpo> KaAtta, should be .conkyrc down towards the bottom
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: you need to extract the folder then run the commands on http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/conky_grey?content=137272
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: there's a method listed on the page above
[01:33] <brisky83> robert05ad: i read about bad on ati supporting linux, i dont use crossfire, and i dont need it, i will not gaming on it, but i use 2 gpu for use 3 monitor
[01:34] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i know conky very well   :)
[01:34] <escott> brisky83, crossfire support is not listed as supported http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: if you read the link, it gives instructions to run, so conkyrc isnt needed
[01:34] <brisky83> robert05ad: but when i try it on maverik i becoma mad with it and came back on win7, but i love natty on my netbook and i want use on big pc
[01:34] <acicula> escott: hes not trying to crossfire
[01:34] <KaAtta> hiexpo, ActionParsnip qin i figured it out guys, i had to create a folder and paste the lua into it
[01:35] <KaAtta> there was no previous folder, i had to create the directory. its working now :D
[01:35] <escott> acicula, brisky83  ok. my connection dropped
[01:35] <acicula> brisky83: you may have to run xorg  on each card, so no unified desktop
[01:35] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, ya that is silly using lua
[01:35] <brisky83> escott: thanks but i dont care about crossfire, i only want 3 monitor in mutliscreen
[01:36] <escott> brisky83, i think acicula is right. i don't know if xinerama would work, but you could run two different x servers on different cards
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: it works so I don't argue with it
[01:36] <hiexpo> KaAtta, why you using lua ?
[01:36] <armor-64> hi guys i need a an information,the realese about ubuntu 11.04?
[01:36] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: Conky is configured using lua.
[01:37] <KaAtta> hiexpo, i was googling "conky configs" with a time filter of hte last year, and i saw that setup that was pretty
[01:37] <KaAtta> hiexpo, so i wanted
[01:37] <brisky83> escott: acicula i read about it, cinerama on maverick wont work :( but i read to start 2 xconfig with single card everytime , and copy on 1 after all that
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> armor-64: ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <rendero> when will be available 11.04 ?
[01:37] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, yes but not hard to make your own rc file
[01:37] <arand> rendero: When it's ready.
[01:37] <armor-64> actionparnip:thnks man
[01:37] <rendero> arand, when will be ready xD ?
[01:38] <acicula> brisky83: http://superuser.com/questions/257676/ubuntu-3-monitors-2-video-cards-not-working , seems you can get away with just running one xserver.
[01:40] <brisky83> acicula: thanks i save it, and i will try after i download the dayly natty, im a "newbie" but i really love use ubuntu also in desktop pc
[01:40] <acicula> brisky83: i remember using xinerama before, it can be a bit fiddly and dont know if you can configure it using a desktop wizard either, so can be a bit fiddly
[01:40] <arand> rendero: Before 29th
[01:40] <acicula> oh is natty released?
[01:41] <tripelb> ADMINS: think about putting this somewhere in Ubottu or something. I've decided this is a good way to learn more linux. http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
[01:41] <brisky83> acicula: im downloading the daily of 27/04 i guess is the same of official of today
[01:42] <rendero> arand, but i saw schedule and its written 28th :S
[01:42] <tripelb> question: do I have to upgrade to 10.10 before I can upgrade to natty? (now 10.04)
[01:42] <arand> tripelb: Yes
[01:43] <hiexpo> KaAtta, here is my conky   http://tinypic.com/r/34fzo6g/7
[01:43] <robert05ad> You can install 11.04 fresh
[01:43] <ssfdre38> tripelb: 10.04 LTS?
[01:43] <tripelb> arand, thanks
[01:43] <tripelb> um, 10.04 - is there more than one kind?
[01:44] <acicula> no there isnt
[01:44] <ssfdre38> stay on 10.04 its the better one to be on
[01:44] <tripelb> this one ssfdre38 - You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[01:44] <tripelb>                 - the Lucid Lynx - released in April 2010 and supported until April 2013.
[01:44] <tripelb>
[01:44] <rendero> !isitout
[01:44] <tripelb> oh ssfdre38 that's easy. at what point would I move onto 10.10 ?
[01:45] <ssfdre38> the next LTS is out
[01:45] <sancas> how can i export database of banshee ?
[01:45] <Macer> isnt 10.10 stable?
[01:45] <ssfdre38> 10.04 its good for 3 years of support
[01:45] <Macer> actually released?
[01:46] <ssfdre38> 10.10 and 11.04 gets 18 months of support
[01:46] <acicula> LTS just means its supported for a longer period, and supposedly a little more stable then the usual intermediary versions
[01:46] <bloopletech> sancas: ~/.config/banshee-1/banshee.db
[01:46] <Macer> i mean.. it is a simple dist-upgrade
[01:46] <acicula> next LTS is 12.04
[01:46] <bloopletech> sancas: that's an sqlite3 database that you can use if you're so inclined
[01:49] <hiexpo> 10.04 moo betta Macer
[01:49] <KaAtta> hiexpo, nice, but thats a bit too complicated for my girlfriend lol
[01:49] <tripelb> does unity have betterfonts, clearer, sharper?
[01:50] <sancas> bloopletech, and to restore? only paste in the same place?
[01:50] <tripelb> KaAtta, 10.04 is too complicated for your girlfriend?
[01:50] <hiexpo> KaAtta, only took me 30 minutes to make it
[01:51] <bloopletech> sancas: I believe so
[01:51] <linuxmonkey> !party
[01:51] <bloopletech> sancas: assuming you're on the samish version of banshee
[01:51] <hiexpo> tripelb, no he was talking bout my conky
[01:51] <tripelb> O
[01:51] <tripelb> O
[01:51] <escott> tripelb, there is a new font, but you shouldn't have blurry fonts have you tried adjusting your subpixel rendering options
[01:51] <bloopletech> tripelb: you can configure how fonts look on your current system (and I assume on unity)
[01:52] <tripelb> I'm still asking questions about how to partition my gynormous (1T) hard drive so that I can have 2 different ubuntus. I am also still asking about how to copy files from one ubuntu (one one hard drive) to another. I cant sign in on both and I am stuck.
[01:53] <sancas> bloopletech, yes :) but.. if the place of music change but this have the same name no problem??
[01:53] <bloopletech> tripelb: System -> Preferences -> Appearance, then the Fonts tab. If you're using an LCD then turn Subpixel rendering on and then tweak it by clicking Details...
[01:53] <brisky83> nite everybody
[01:53] <bloopletech> sancas: I'm not sure, it might store absolute paths in the database
[01:53] <tripelb> bloopletech, escott, unless it will get better on reboot I've configured all there is to configure and it's better on windows. I dont want windows, I want fonts I can see with more ease.
[01:54] <tripelb> bloopletech, I am using a CRT.
[01:54] <bloopletech> tripelb: you're going to have to be a lot more specific than it's 'better on windows'
[01:54] <bloopletech> oh, than turn subpixel off
[01:54] <KaAtta> hiexpo, nice, ill link u what im going with once im done customizing it
[01:54] <sancas> bloopletech, im going to try in this moment :P
[01:54] <bloopletech> try grayscale
[01:54] <tripelb> bloopletech, I can read it there. here I have to make it bigger. -- I turned it on 2 days ago and it made no differnce.
[01:54] <tripelb> I like color I dont want to go back to before the amiga.
[01:55] <tripelb> you are dissing me by saying that.
[01:55] <bloopletech> tripelb: what
[01:55] <tripelb> nevermind.
[01:55] <bloopletech> tripelb: I meant grayscale font smoothing
[01:55] <[Messer]> is this server's full of programmers?)
[01:55] <tripelb> oh. ok
[01:55] <bloopletech> not grayscale display
[01:55] <uncmar> [Messer]: nah, but I'm a programmer.
[01:55] <bloopletech> because subpixel rendering is designed for lcd's so it won't work very well on crt
[01:56] <reeceb> escott and others, thanks a ton. I'm up and running with cheeze now I'm just wondering how to directly access the video feed for processing
[01:56] <sebsebseb> hi
[01:56] <escott> reeceb, its /dev/video0 but v4l does lots of nice stuff (like flipping my upside down camera the right way)
[01:56] <[Messer]> » uncmar » the most of channels are linux, ubuntu etc.. O_o ))
[01:56] <uncmar> subpixel, things smaller than pixels?  what are those, pixels below pixels so that when you scale up it looks pretty?
[01:56] <hiexpo> KaAtta, kk
[01:56] <tripelb> bloopletech, thanks for the help. I'm too tired to remember how to get there now.
[01:56] <bloopletech> tripelb: WRT your other questions, the easiest way to partition your drives is probably to burn a livecd, boot into that and use gparted to divide your drive in half - though you may want swap partitions for each installation
[01:57] <escott> reeceb, i would recommend using gstreamer to get the stream, or look at the v4l docs there may be bindings for popular languages
[01:57] <reeceb> gstreamer?
[01:57] <bloopletech> uncmar: on an lcd, each pixel is mad eup of three lights: a red a green and a blue one
[01:57] <uncmar> [Messer]: isn't it great?  Linux is taking over.  Well, at least becoming a bit more popular.
[01:57] <reeceb> and how do I get to dev/video0
[01:57] <[Messer]> » uncmar » yup, man, you're right =)
[01:57] <bloopletech> subpixel rendering means controlling the individual lights to achieve a better result
[01:58] <escott> reeceb, media framework included in gnome. what do you want to do with your camera video? and what language do you want to use?
[01:58] <revButl> greetings; what are some ways to set up my hard disk partitions?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Just now was the first time I joined this channel since last year,  or maybe I joined once earlier this year or something
[01:58] <reeceb> hopefully C and do some minor vision detection with openCV
[01:58] <escott> revButl, are you asking for suggested partition layouts or tools to partition
[01:58] <revButl> suggested partition layouts please
[01:58] <uncmar> eh, CRT's display with the same RGB combo.  Hence, 24 bit color.  8 bits per the trio.
[01:59] <bloopletech> uncmar: well no
[01:59] <reeceb> I have openCV installed and am using Harpia to prototype my algorythms but my end target system is a beagleboard
[01:59] <escott> revButl, how many disks do you have, how much space, what are your goals/uses for the system, how would you prioritize things like backups vs performance vs flexibility
[01:59] <bloopletech> uncmar: crts work by projecting beams through a phosphor coating at the screen
[01:59] <escott> reeceb, see if someone has codesamples for openCV and v4l2 im sure its been done many times
[02:00] <au-contrarian> Why was Grub2 v1.97 and not just 2.0?
[02:00] <bloopletech> tripelb: regarding accessing your other hard drive: if you go Places -> Computer your other drive sohuld be there and you should be able to double click it to access the files on that drive
[02:00] <escott> au-contrarian, 2.0 hasn't been released yet, but they really liked the features and thought it was stable enough
[02:00] <revButl> decreasing emphasis on flexibility, data recovery, then performance; i have one hard disk with about 50 gigs over half a terabyte with about half a terabyte designated for windows
[02:00] <sancas> how can i close banshee if when i close it if i using integration with my sound menu?
[02:01] <au-contrarian> So Grub2 isn't really Grub2, it's Grub1.97
[02:01] <[Messer]> » uncmar » by the way, I'd just want to find english-speaking channel/server.. When I came here, I've got very amazed of Linux's popularity )
[02:01] <hiexpo> au-contrarian, no it is grub2 version 1.97
[02:01] <_ryx_> viva 11.04
[02:02] <escott> revButl, i would suggest making a smaller partition ~15-20gigs for your operating system and configuring it as raid1 mirrored across the two disks with mdadm
[02:02] <KaAtta> hiexpo, didnt forget about u, i got terminal running a package update, taking a few minutes before i can load up my new conky config
[02:03] <escott> revButl, for the rest of the disk i would have raid1 as well, and use that for your larger files, if you outgrow the storage you can either buy more or go into a raid1 degraded mode and free a half-terabyte
[02:03] <sancas> oh sorry i have integrated my banshee with my sound menu and i never can close it :( how can i close?
[02:03] <escott> revButl, and don't forget a bit for swap space
[02:03] <Ziber> Huh. I'm on a live CD, installing ubuntu. Installer seems to be just sitting at 79%, not looking like its doing much
[02:03] <mrdeb> why does banshee not work with ipod?
[02:03] <mrdeb> what works with ipod
[02:03] <revButl> is the current heuristic for swapspace to be 2x the amount of memory you have still?
[02:03] <multipass> !countdown
[02:03] <escott> revButl, im sure you can get many other opinions
[02:03] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: it does work with most ipods, what ipod do you have?
[02:03] <uncmar> mrdeb: a mac or windows.  but, linux?  I don't know.  I won't buy an ipod.
[02:03] <mrdeb> shuffle
[02:03] <escott> !isitout | multipass
[02:04] <au-contrarian> escott, hiexpo - thanks.
[02:04] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: what happens when you try to sync?
[02:04] <bloopletech> sancas: open a terminal and do killall -9 banshee - that will forcibly terminate banshee
[02:04] <mrdeb> computerwiz_222: it does nto see it
[02:04] <hiexpo> au-contrarian, welcome np
[02:04] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: does it mount it as a device in the file manager?
[02:04] <escott> au-contrarian, those gnu people tend to be a little picky about having all the details right with unimportant stuff like a bootloader ;)
[02:04] <revButl> i don't want to configure my computer so that i lose education or entertainment potential; i just remember Ubuntu putting about 5 partitions on my hard disk;
[02:04] <mrdeb> computerwiz_222: no
[02:04] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: also.. what ipod shuffle? the latest one?
[02:05] <mrdeb> no
[02:05] <Ziber> What should I do if my installer just seems to sitting at a certain percentage (in this case, 79%)... Seemingly not doing anything.
[02:05] <computerwiz_222> mrdeb: it should work just fine.. i hate to ask.. is it plugged in?
[02:05] <hiexpo> revButl, you only need 2
[02:05] <escott> revButl, thats not really necessary, its a throwback from the old days of unix sysadmins when each disk was 10megs
[02:05] <bloopletech> revButl: you can just make a main partition and a swap partition - it's not really special how you configure it and it won't change your entertainment potential
[02:05] <escott> revButl, 90% of people have 2 (/ and swap) some add a couple more for /home or /boot
[02:06] <revButl> ok thanks guys
[02:06] <sancas> jajja bloopletech thanks never thought of it :D
[02:06] <bloopletech> also, you can resize and add partitions later if you want
[02:06] <bloopletech> it's not 2000 anymore :D
[02:06] <bloopletech> sancas: np
[02:06] <mrdeb> computerwiz_222: yes
[02:07] <viranch> when is natty releasing?
[02:07] <mrdeb> now
[02:07] <bloopletech> viranch: sometime in the next 24hours probablky
[02:07] <au-contrarian> escott- then name is just maddening.  There is Grub, I get that, and that never really had a version 1, it just went up to 0.97 - and then they decide to release Grub2 but that is version 1.97 - seriously WTF?  They could have at least called Grub2 v1.0
[02:07] <Ziber> How long should "creating user" really take when installing ubuntu? Has been sitting at that in the installer for about 5 mins now.
[02:07] <viranch> mrdeb: not released yet!
[02:07] <viranch> bloopletech: not a fixed time?
[02:07] <bloopletech> viranch: no
[02:08] <escott> au-contrarian, its understandable it is a bootloader and all
[02:08] <bloopletech> viranch: I think they leave it flexible in case there are last minute issues
[02:08] <viranch> bloopletech: Ok..
[02:08] <escott> au-contrarian, it could have a version number like latex which is always fun
[02:08] <induz> suddenly my comp is running slow
[02:08] <induz> what should i do??
[02:08] <escott> induz, what has changed
[02:08] <bloopletech> viranch: you can join #ubuntu-release-party if you like and await 11.04
[02:08] <induz>  nothing has changed
[02:08] <mehdi> hello
[02:08] <KaAtta> hiexpo, ok bud, here is the setup i went with http://i55.tinypic.com/4oo5j.png
[02:09] <escott> induz, see if anything is using cpu in gnome-system-monitor
[02:09] <bloopletech> induz: Start -> System -> Administration -> Task Manager
[02:09] <viranch> bloopletech: sounds nice! thanks
[02:09] <bloopletech> then click the cpu column to sort desecending
[02:09] <escott> KaAtta, what is that desktop widget
[02:09] <cga> hey türk olanvarmı
[02:09] <bloopletech> also try clicking the memory column and sort decending to see if something's taking up all your ram
[02:09] <bloopletech> viranch: np
[02:09] <Ziber> Why would my install seemingly stop... installing and just sit at 79%?
[02:09] <cga> hey türk olanvarmı
[02:09] <cga> hey türk olan varmı
[02:10] <KaAtta> escott which? the guages?
[02:10] <escott> Ziber, can you click on details anywhere
[02:10] <Ziber> escott: nope...
[02:10] <escott> KaAtta, yes the "speedometer" for cpu
[02:10] <hiexpo> KaAtta, pretty kool you using kde huh
[02:10] <KaAtta> hiexpo, no, using gnome, 10.10
[02:11] <escott> Ziber, what was the last thing it said it was doing, or is it just a progress bar?
[02:11] <fieris> why?
[02:11] <induz> is there anyway i can find what r the processes running
[02:11] <Ziber> escott: Progress bar, 79%, "creating user..."
[02:11] <induz>  most of the processes r sleeping
[02:11] <KaAtta> escott, that is conky, i just installed it and configured it using a setup i found online
[02:11] <induz>  but available swap is just 3%
[02:11] <escott> KaAtta, cool
[02:11] <bloopletech> induz: something is chewing your ram
[02:11] <KaAtta> induz in terminal: ps aux
[02:11] <bloopletech> induz: try sorting by memory usage descending
[02:12] <escott> Ziber, have you already entered your username info? wondering if there is a popup somewhere behind a window
[02:12] <Ziber> escott: I already have, came before it.
[02:12] <hiexpo> that is gnome KaAtta oh with bar on bottom forgot what that is called looks like kde   but now that i look at i know
[02:12] <Ziber> escott: no other window associated with it.
[02:12] <KaAtta> the bar im using is cairo-dock
[02:12] <tripelb> bloopletech, yes all you say is true. I can access them. I cannot copy them because I dont have permission. when I log into the other drive I cannot even see my normal filesystem. I can only see the filesystem I am on and 2 windows partitions and one NTFS partions. (I have 3 drives mounted.)
[02:12] <KaAtta> im still trying to figure out how to get composite to work on my LDXE setup, been trying for days
[02:12] <KaAtta> cant get any help in lubuntu channel
[02:13] <escott> Ziber, can you run stuff from the live cd, namely the system monitor and see if anything is happening
[02:13] <linuxman410> any help with a intel 845ge video card on board i found nothing to help in google
[02:13] <netmsi> hi all...if in proftpd, i want to create a user, and lock them into a directory, say like /home/user/Pictures, do I have to create that user in ubuntu (cli or otherwise?)
[02:13] <Ziber> escott: where would i find that? slightly new to ubuntu.
[02:13] <induz> ps aux throws a list of % CPU and i dont know what to do with them
[02:13] <hiexpo> KaAtta, oh ok that lbuntu  not gnome
[02:13] <bloopletech> tripelb: ah I see. To deal with the permissions issue you may be able to run gksudo nautilus and copy the files in that window
[02:13] <bloopletech> tripelb: I'm not sure why you can't see the partition from the other installation
[02:14] <KaAtta> hiexpo, the screentshot is gnome, i ALSO have another machine running lubuntu, but i cant get composite to work on it
[02:14] <escott> netmsi, when you install proftpd it should create a user for the app, the restriction bit is part of the proftpd config, there is a gui for proftpd as well
[02:14] <mar7ar> hi everybody i`m in such a big problem i have intented to remove a libusb package but instead i have pressed libusb* then all dependant package are removed how can i fix this?/?
[02:14] <syddraf> Is there a way to determine if I am running Ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[02:14] <induz> how can i make it run fatser as earlier??
[02:14] <bloopletech> syddraf: uname -a
[02:15] <hiexpo> KaAtta, lookslike lkde to me but ok
[02:15] <escott> Ziber, did you boot the live cd to the desktop environment then start the install or did you just take the first install option
[02:15] <netmsi> escott, i tried gadmin, and it seems like webmin is just as viable as an option, but what if i want to create user other than the default?
[02:15] <tripelb> bloopletech, I copy what you say and do it another day. Peace. Thanks a lot for working with me.
[02:15] <HerrRiz> I'm having trouble setting the PS1 variable as a non-root user. \u doesn't give the proper output. When I set my variable with PS1='\u\$', I get exactly that as my prompt.
[02:15] <bloopletech> induz: Go to the task manager, sort by memory usage descending then click the top item and click kill process
[02:15] <bloopletech> tripelb: np
[02:15] <hiexpo> KaAtta, nevermind   i didnt scrol up   lol
[02:15] <KaAtta> hiexpo, the screenshot is gnome, 10.10, all i have done is changed background, added the dock, added conky, and removed bottom panel
[02:15] <KaAtta> that is it lol
[02:15] <bloopletech> induz: repeat until success
[02:16] <syddraf> bloopletech: It returns 2.6.32-31-generic-pae #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 20:00:13 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:16] <mupeng> hai
[02:16] <bloopletech> syddraf: you're 32-bit
[02:16] <escott> netmsi, you could do that but there are various things you have to be aware of like, making sure the user has /dev/null as their shell and some pam stuff, better to use the suggested user
[02:16] <syddraf> bloopletech: Thank you. I appreciate it.
[02:16] <bloopletech> syddraf: np
[02:16] <sancas> where can i locate the covert art of the song is playing rigth now? im using banshee2.0
[02:16] <mupeng> hai
[02:16] <mupeng> oi!!1
[02:16] <induz> its getting better now
[02:16] <mupeng> what??
[02:16] <induz> do i have to perform this KILL process everytime
[02:16] <mupeng> i love yiou
[02:17] <hypetech> anybody know what time natty goes live?
[02:17] <mupeng> no
[02:17] <rww_> hypetech: there is no set time
[02:17] <hypetech> k
[02:17] <mupeng> oi
[02:17] <mupeng> oi
[02:17] <mupeng> oi
[02:17] <FloodBot2> mupeng: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:17] <jstrap> hi i have installed ubuntu from a cd that my friend gave me, and am having trouble getting my graphics to look right. I have got pretty much everything the way i want it but the video is messed up looking. here is a list of some commands. http://pastebin.com/EupuENiB
[02:17] <netmsi> escott, so multiple users are not advisable? what if i need three separate users each with their own direct.?
[02:17] <bloopletech> induz: only if a program is doing something wrong and using memory badly
[02:17] <bloopletech> induz: not usually
[02:17] <escott> netmsi, you can only have one service on a single port
[02:18] <hiexpo> KaAtta, should use 10.04 did you look what kernal i was using   :)
[02:18] <escott> netmsi, so proftpd has to run as someone, and various restrictions should be put around that user, which they do by default, so that if someone does intrude into proftpd the damage they can do is minimal
[02:18] <bloopletech> jstrap: what's wrong with the video at the moment? is the resolution too low or...
[02:18] <KaAtta> i didnt
[02:18] <hiexpo> super fast
[02:18] <netmsi> escott, but it supports multiple connections (forgive the ignorance)?
[02:18] <KaAtta> hiexpo, i really wanna try 11.04 but i cant get the beta to boot for me if my life depended on it
[02:18] <hiexpo> ^ KaAtta
[02:19] <induz> bloopletech, its getting a bit better by killing some of the processes
[02:19] <jstrap> bloopletech, yes, thats what it is.
[02:19] <george> hello
[02:19] <bloopletech> jstrap: try going to System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[02:19] <hiexpo> KaAtta, leave 11.04 alone 10.04 has better support
[02:19] <netmsi> escott, maybe i'm using the wrong word when i say users..multiple logins?
[02:19] <bloopletech> jstrap: see if it will let you increase the resolution
[02:19] <linuxman410> upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and only have one resolution
[02:19] <george> I need some help with a realtek driver
[02:19] <induz> bloopletech, but i really dont know what i am killing as names are not familiar except few like mozila and thunderbird
[02:20] <escott> netmsi, give me a sec to confirm what i am saying is true ;)
[02:20] <george> can any budy hekp me??
[02:20] <bloopletech> induz: true, it is a bit risky
[02:20] <netmsi> escott, thank you..
[02:20] <bloopletech> induz: I mean if you're not sure, rebooting should sort it out
[02:20] <hiexpo> KaAtta, always better to stay with the lts versions    :)
[02:21] <escott> netmsi, so there is a distinction between a remote shell ala ssh and an service like http
[02:21] <george> Realtek Driver any here body out there who can help??
[02:21] <jstrap> bloopletech, I tried that, but it seems i dont have any driver installed maybe? would there be a program by nvidia if i did?
[02:21] <bloopletech> jstrap: you have an nvidia chipset?
[02:21] <hiexpo> george, sure what chipset ?
[02:21] <KaAtta> ive used 10.10 more then anything and to be honest, right now im loving it. im pretty new to linux and im having a fairly easy time figuring it out
[02:21] <george> i have no idea?
[02:22] <george> is boult in
[02:22] <KaAtta> hiexpo,  i really wish my othe rmachine was capable of running 10.10
[02:22] <escott> netmsi, when you ssh into a server you have an account running as your user on that server, when you http into a server you are asking an httpd program like apache to do things on your behalf, proftpd can do a bit of both, but the safer thing is to set it up like an httpd server
[02:22] <jstrap> bloopletech, yes
[02:22] <bloopletech> jstrap: If so, then I believe you have two options: the driver that nvidia supplies, and a new open-source driver built by the community
[02:22] <hiexpo> KaAtta, 10.04 can do more   :)
[02:22] <bloopletech> jstrap: I'd suggest maybe trying both if you're not sure - I don't have nvidia so I can't recommend which one
[02:22] <bloopletech> let me link you
[02:22] <KaAtta> question is, will it run smoothly on my other machine?
[02:23] <hypetech> hiexpo: what's the benefit of 10.04?
[02:23] <hiexpo> george, not a usb ?
[02:23] <KaAtta> my other machine has issues running 10.10 but runs lubuntu 10.10 just fine
[02:23] <jstrap> bloopletech, Im sure i have nvidia, but i dont know exactly what i have in this laptop, if that makes any sense lol
[02:23] <netmsi> escott, ok...i think i understood that answer..you'll have to forgive, am just learning about ftp..still hasnt quite coalesced methinks
[02:23] <escott> netmsi, so when proftpd gets a connection request it authenticates against a list of usernames which need not be real users of the server (without a account or /home, so the only thing they can do is ftp), and then forks and processes their requests
[02:23] <bloopletech> jstrap: yeah np. DO you know what version of ubuntu you have installed?
[02:23] <hiexpo> hypetech, you can hack t better   :)
[02:23] <digdeep> install virtualbox 4.0.6 with ubuntu 11.04, but /etc/init.d/vboxdrv is missing. Anyone please?
[02:24] <hiexpo> hypetech, and it lts
[02:24] <escott> netmsi, if you want a service for people who have accounts on the server already consider ssh and sftp
[02:24] <sebsebseb> digdeep: oh you want to virtualmachine Ubuntu 11.04?
[02:24] <KaAtta> hiexpo, what does LTS stand for?
[02:24] <netmsi> escott, yes, that was my question...so how do i create those accounts (not on the server, just for ftp purposes?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !lts | KaAtta
[02:24] <hiexpo> KaAtta, long term support
[02:24] <digdeep> wrong channel, sorry
[02:24] <jstrap> bloopletech, the cd that he gave me was blank, but i think its 9.04. I thought if i installed all the updates it might fix it, but it didnt
[02:25] <sebsebseb> digdeep: I can link you to some proper instructions on how to virtual machine 11.04
[02:25] <escott> netmsi, its part of the proftpd config haven't done it in some time though
[02:25] <george> no hiexpo is a built in to a toshiba
[02:25] <KaAtta> hiexpo, sebsebseb ty both
[02:25] <sebsebseb> digdeep: actsaully I think for a virtual machine of 11.04, even though 11.04 isn't out just yet, this channel would be sort of ok, because you could be virtual machining it with a previous version of Ubuntu,  as host,  and you could with another distro as host as well
[02:25] <bloopletech> jstrap: ok, you have a couple options. You can upgrade your ubuntu to a later version (which is different to installing the updates); this is probably a good idea anyway as 9.04 is a few years old now
[02:26] <hiexpo> KaAtta, i boot in 32 secs   :)
[02:26] <escott> netmsi, ftp is discouraged for a lot of reasons, if you can use ssh and sftp thats better
[02:26] <netmsi> escott, i don't mind figuring it out myself, but what is that login called in proftpd? 'user', 'account', etc.?
[02:26] <bloopletech> either way you can switch to the nvidia supplied drivers if you like - here is a howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:26] <reeceb_> escott, thanks again. I've found some stuff online and I'm callin' it for the evening. Take it easy
[02:26] <escott> reeceb_, np
[02:26] <hiexpo> george, ok you need to get the info of it and i can probally help you than
[02:26] <george> ok
[02:26] <escott> netmsi, virtual users i think
[02:27] <netmsi> escott, unfortunately not...the people i want to share file w/ are not technical...i can set them up w/ a ftp client, they can hang..
[02:27] <auxin> hi is there a way to get apt-get to tell me how many updates are available?
[02:27] <Luke1> hey I'm having a problem on ubuntu 11.04 gdm login: "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256"
[02:27] <netmsi> escott, cool...
[02:27] <george>  let me see if i can toshiba drivers for win 7 dose not have info on the chipset only on the units compatible
[02:27] <reves> auxin... try sudo apt-get update
[02:27] <bloopletech> jstrap: the current Long Term Support release of ubuntu is 10.04 lucid, and the latest version is 10.10 maverick
[02:28] <jstrap> bloopletech, ok. guess it was worth the try cause i learned a few thing but ill just have to do a fresh install of a later distro. thanks for the help though :)
[02:28] <bloopletech> jstrap: although 11.04 natty is coming out in the next day or so ;)
[02:28] <escott> Ziber, you still waiting on that install
[02:28] <bloopletech> jstrap: ok -though you can upgrade ubuntu over the internet if you want
[02:28] <auxin> reves, hmm no that doesnt work, thanks though
[02:28] <fcuk112> hi, natty beta 2 install freezes after i click next on the screen where you specify whether you want to download updates / install restricted stuff.  anyone else seen this before?
[02:29] <bloopletech> jstrap: assuming you have a decent internet connection
[02:29] <auxin> Im looking for something like aptitudes $aptitude search ~U
[02:29] <auxin> but only for apt-get
[02:29] <hiexpo> george, open terminal and type   >   lspci -v | less
[02:29] <jstrap> bloopletech, maybe ill just wait for 11.04, might be worth it
[02:29] <fcuk112> i tried both normal and alternate install iso
[02:29] <MacGyverNL> apt-cache search
 u think i can run the driver with WINE???
[02:30] <hiexpo> george,   f   <     wine
[02:30] <auxin> MacGyverNL, excellent, thanks!
[02:30] <MacGyverNL> Yw.
[02:31] <george> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02)
[02:31] <george>         Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device fd00
[02:31] <george>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[02:31] <george>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[02:31] <george>         Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
[02:31] <FloodBot2> george: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <george>         Kernel modules: intel-agp
[02:31] <hiexpo> george,  give me output of that command
[02:31] <Adis45> Why wont my partition mount, i can't even force mount it
[02:32] <Adis45> is there any other way to mount it
[02:32] <usr13> Adis45: Which partition?
[02:32] <usr13> Adis45: Are you sure it's not alreday mounted?
[02:32] <Adis45> Its not
[02:32] <Adis45> its my other hard disk
[02:32] <usr13> Adis45: Is it listed in fstab?
[02:33] <Adis45> whats that
[02:33] <RedLance> Ok, I want to give my kids read only access to the Music samba share, but I want my wife and I to have read/write access...how do I set that up, please?
[02:33] <usr13> Adis45: fdisk -l | pastebinit   #And send us the resulting URL
[02:34] <usr13> RedLance: groups
[02:34] <escott> RedLance, if your wife and kids are the only users on the system then put your wife and you in a group say "parents" and chgrp the directory and all contents to "parents"
[02:34] <usr13> RedLance: man addgroup  man group
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !permissions | RedLance
[02:34] <Adis45> usr13: http://pastebin.com/zZBGMALC
[02:34] <escott> RedLance, then revoke w permission from other
[02:35] <Adis45> its /dev/sda2
[02:35] <rww_> george: FloodBot is not sentient.
[02:35] <netmsi> escott, in the proftpd.conf file, is has a commented out template for an anonymous login..just copy that and make the appropriate changes?
[02:35] <RedLance> Ok, thanks everybody!
[02:35] <george> so can any help me??
[02:35] <escott> netmsi, that would be for anonymous (no password login) so if thats what you want sure
[02:36] <sebsebseb> george: Drivers do not work in Wine
[02:36] <usr13> Adis45: You would have to mount it with admin priviledges, (unless you specify that users can in the /etc/fstab file)
[02:36] <sebsebseb> george: or commmercial versions that are sold, for that matter
[02:36] <Adis45> I do mount it with admin privileges
[02:36] <george> o crap
[02:36] <Adis45> do you want me to pastebin the error I get?
[02:36] <george> so what can u do?
[02:36] <Adis45> that might help
[02:36] <usr13> Adis45: Yes
[02:36] <hiexpo> george, i told you what to do   run that command in the terminal so i know what chipset it has
[02:37] <netmsi> escott, def. not...but that configuration works for adding a user, and adding a password or psswd line to the file, or is a waste going that route?
[02:37] <escott> netmsi, it may be different. http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/VirtualUsers.html
[02:37] <hiexpo> george, lspci -v | less
[02:37] <sebsebseb> george: and with  hardware it depends on the dsitro, if it just works or doesn't,  in general Linux distro's tend to work quite well with pretty standard PC hardware though. and hiexpo can probably help you properly :)
[02:37] <RedLance> Does it change anything if I admit that the wife and kids access the samba server with Windows?  I use Ubuntu of course, and the samba server is Ubuntu too.  Are groups still the way to go?
[02:38] <escott> netmsi, the key thing is you want them to have the least priviliged access to the system, preferably nobody or guest
[02:38] <sebsebseb> RedLance: sure if set up right for Samba, you can do what you want, not sure how to do that myself though
[02:38] <george> fron the board is an intel
[02:38] <ubusammyn150> ?
[02:38] <netmsi> escott, gotcha...it's just the mechanics that are screwing me up..
[02:38] <Adis45> usr13: http://pastebin.com/qbVYBK5i
[02:39] <escott> netmsi, but you don't actually want to put a password on nobody or guest, and then have ftp passing that around in the clear, so I would put a password in the AuthUserFile for "nobody" and then tell them to login with that password and see if you can make that work.
[02:39] <escott> netmsi, understandable ftp is screwed up
[02:39] <ubusammyn150> gconf-snaity-check-2 exited with code 256...it says i have no internet but i do, i can't update..things close randomly..how do i fix this
[02:39] <ubusammyn150> sanity
[02:39] <usr13> Adis45: That's great, but I do not see the command you used that generated the error.
[02:39] <ezl> ;;bc,mtgox
[02:40]  * hiexpo george I know wifi  I am a aircrack-ng guy   :)
[02:40] <Adis45> usr13: ok let me redo it
[02:40] <george> Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
[02:40] <multipass> is there a direct upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 that you can do?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> ubusammyn150: can't get anything from the repo's anymore?
[02:40] <george> Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
[02:40] <sebsebseb> multipass: yes, but wait untill the final is out first, oh and if you do it on release day it may be rather slow to do
[02:40] <netmsi> escott, thanks so much...gonna go try some things out..most probably be back ...but appreciate immensely...
[02:40] <escott> netmsi, if you want it to be pretty you can put a different name on the nobody UID in that AuthUserFile and then they can signin as mrrogers if that makes more sense
[02:41] <ubusammyn150> i dont know what to get..sudo apt-get reconfigure isnt working either
[02:41] <sebsebseb> multipass: also since 11.04 get's a major interface change with Unity,  you may want to keep 10.10 a while longer
[02:41] <escott> netmsi, you could probably have a bunch of different aliases all to nobody's UID with their own password
[02:41] <sebsebseb> multipass: or dare I say it here :D look into some other distro
[02:41] <usr13> multipass: Tomorrow you will be ble to.
[02:41] <tehmbg> or get 11.04 but use a different desktop/window manager
[02:41] <sebsebseb> multipass: also soon after 11.04 comes out, Canonical will have a web thing, so people can try in a web browser
[02:41] <netmsi> escott, and would those alias each map to a separate direct.?
[02:42] <multipass> o what? try it in a web browser, sebsebseb ?
[02:42] <ubusammyn150> it is version 10.04
[02:42] <sebsebseb> multipass: yes,  it will be Unity 2D thought no Unity 3D, but nearly the same thing, other then that yep like as if you had installed 11.04
[02:42] <gogearvibe4g> 10.04 LTS?
[02:42] <Decision> anyone here can help me with a wifi driver
[02:42] <usr13> gogearvibe4g: Yes
[02:42] <KM0201> sebsebseb: really?.. i hadn't heard that, thats pretty awesome
[02:43] <escott> netmsi so nobody is 65534, you could have alice:65534\nbob:65534\ncharlie:65534 in your AuthUserFile (if I am understanding what I am reading correctly)
[02:43] <usr13> Decision: Probably.  Tell us what wifi device you have.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> KM0201: I read it on at least one site, maybe two even
[02:43] <KM0201> sebsebseb: very cool.. that takes "trying linux" to a whole new level.. don't even have to burn a cd
[02:43] <gogearvibe4g> i don't know.....i have not used it....
[02:43] <sebsebseb> KM0201: should be good yeah,  get people to try Unity like that first,  instead of them doing the upgrade, and then regretting it :d
[02:43] <gogearvibe4g> i am using 10.10
[02:43] <hypetech> unity rocks
[02:43] <usr13> Decision: lspci |grep ireless
[02:43] <sebsebseb> KM0201: indeed exactly
[02:44] <KM0201> sebsebseb: i kind of agree there.. i like unity, but my old laptop just couldn't handle it
[02:44] <sebsebseb> KM0201: right, but since it's a virtual machine or whatever on a Canonical server, then I guess like that, should work with old computers even, since they aren't running it
[02:44] <sebsebseb> KM0201: also Unity 2D may work with your old computer, but that's only a ppa for 11.04
[02:44] <ubusammyn150> sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure reports invalid
[02:45] <KM0201> sebsebseb: didn't care for unity-2d... so i just went xubuntu.. really happy with it.. i hadn't really used xfce4.. i like it.
[02:45] <gogearvibe4g> but how would you get 2d?
[02:45] <Decision> usr13,  that didnt do anything i ran it in terminal
[02:45] <multipass> so will it be ok to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04? or would i be better off reformatting with 11.04
[02:45] <sebsebseb> KM0201: yeah XFCE is nice, but it's nice in loads of distro's not just Ubuntu :)
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Xubuntu even, above
[02:45] <usr13> Decision: lspci  #And just look for it.
[02:46] <usr13> Decision: and send us that line.
[02:46] <tjiggi_fo> Decision, wireless not ireless
[02:46] <usr13> tjiggi_fo: no ireless not wireless
[02:46] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: I think Unity 2D is 11.04 only, also technically since, 11.04 isn't out just yet, the channel to talk about this would be #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <tjiggi_fo> usr13, 0_o
[02:46] <gogearvibe4g> multipass: i formatted and wiped my drive so i would wait for the upgrade just to be safe
[02:46] <usr13> tjiggi_fo: I left off the W on purpose.
[02:46] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: and 11.10 will probably use Unity 2D as the fall back intead of Gnome 2, since they will be using Gnome 3 underneath Unity for that one :D
[02:46] <ezl> where do crontab files live?
[02:47] <gogearvibe4g> sebsebseb: Gotcha
[02:47] <escott> ezl, root crontab is in /etc/cron*
[02:47] <usr13> ezl: but you can see it via    crontab -l
[02:47] <escott> ezl, user cron files in /var/local/cron?
[02:47] <gogearvibe4g> i use a laptop with only 2gig of RAM but 250 gig of Drive space
[02:48] <DennyNY> Hi everyone.
[02:48] <gogearvibe4g> and i am using Beta 2 for 11.04
[02:48] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: Unity 2D ppa search Google for that, that omgubuntu link,   how they said to install it,  that should do it :)  oh and Gnome Shell is the way to go really, but no proper Gnome 3 with Gnome Shell experience as an option untill 11.04 it seems.  There's a ppa for 11.04, but not the  ful experience.
[02:48] <gogearvibe4g> And sup, newguy
[02:48] <miiike> hi, I just installed ubuntu 10.10 64 bit on an asus ul50vt laptop and went to update the nvidia driver, now when i restart I'm getting it hanging at the "checking battery state" message
[02:48] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: above I meant to put 11.10 for Gnome 3 proper expereince
[02:48] <miiike> i'm pretty new to linux so i'm not really understanding what to do here
[02:49] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: as an option
[02:49] <usr13> ezl:   crontab -e     #To edit
[02:49] <gogearvibe4g> miiike: Is your laptop plugged in?
[02:49] <sebsebseb> miiike: how did you install the Nivida driver?
[02:49] <miiike> gogearvibe4g: it's not right now
[02:49] <sebsebseb> KM0201: see above what I said about Gnome 3 by the way :)
[02:50] <gogearvibe4g> sebsebseb: again, gotcha..
[02:50] <miiike> sebsebseb: i just clicked on "additional drivers" when i started ubuntu up for the first time and installed it through what popped up there
[02:50] <gogearvibe4g> sebsebseb: Was just curious.... :D
[02:50] <sebsebseb> gogearvibe4g: some other distro's already doing Gnome 3, and Fedora 15 will soon when it's released, and yeah.
[02:50] <Decision> i did that figured  oit
[02:50] <sebsebseb> miiike: ok that should have worked really
[02:50] <KM0201> sebsebseb: i actually tried gnome shell... didn't really care for it.. (it was a bit buggy for me).. but i did try the live CD for Open Suse, which had Gnome 3.. and it was very good.. i'm guessing when Gnome 3 PROPERLY hits ubuntu 11.10, it will be much better
[02:51] <Decision> usr13,  its a realtek
[02:51] <sebsebseb> miiike: ,but really you don't need the  propritary driver installed in 10.10, unless you want some compiz effects, or a few 3D games,  11.04 which will come out pretty soon from now,  well things are a bit differnet there,  because the 3D version of the new Unity interface needs a propritary driver or experimental 3D driver.  in fact if you only just put 10.10 on a lap top, I would suggest waiting untill a bit later and then putting 11.04 on.
[02:51] <gogearvibe4g> miiike: hmmm......
[02:52] <hiexpo> sebsebseb, what video card he have ?
[02:52] <escott> nvidia
[02:52] <miiike> sebsebseb: oh okay.  how do I remove it now that i've installed it? lol
[02:52] <gogearvibe4g> 11.04 come out TOMORROW!!! {crapping excited!!!} xD
[02:52] <hiexpo> add the nvidia repos   :)
[02:53] <escott> miiike, since this froze up on battery state have you tried booting while plugged in
[02:53] <rww_> gogearvibe4g: so is #ubuntu-release-party!
[02:53] <kontagious> how long guys?
[02:53] <gogearvibe4g> rww: YEA!!!!
[02:53] <escott> !isitout
[02:54] <miiike> escott: yeah I just tried it and it does the same thing when plugged in
[02:54] <gogearvibe4g> Did you just barely install??
[02:54] <hiexpo> miiike, whatnvidia card is it ?
[02:55] <miiike> GeForce G210M
[02:55] <gogearvibe4g> miiike: was a new install? I had a simmilar problem and reinstalled and it worked out fine
[02:55] <escott> its an asus ul*c right. does that have switchable graphics? is it a core i-series
[02:55] <hiexpo> miiike, wow thats old   >   you scraped the dust off with a chain saw   :)
[02:56] <miiike> gogearvibe4g: yeah i just installed it clean a few minutes ago
[02:56] <miiike> hiexpo: i have no idea, a friend just gave me this laptop lol
[02:56] <escott> hiexpo, i think they spun the 210s into a mobile low power variant, its actually pretty new iirc
[02:56] <gogearvibe4g> miiike it maybe a bad install. Try again and see what happens
[02:57] <escott> miiike, you might also see if you have switchable graphics options in the bios and explicitly selecting one
[02:57] <codex84> why ktorrent
[02:57] <codex84> dl so slow
[02:57] <Squall5668> codex maybe you didn't forward your port?
[02:57] <hiexpo> miiike, did you go to /system/admin/hardwaredrivers   >   and no pripority drivers for it ?
[02:58] <gogearvibe4g> i agree with escott, see if that is that case BEFORE reinstall
[02:58] <gogearvibe4g> :D
[02:58] <Zyclops> hey guys, is it possible to setup a connection to openvpn without installing a 3rd party client?
[02:58] <miiike> escott, okay i'll look
[02:58] <codex84> is forwared
[02:59] <miiike> hiexpo, no i didn't, i'm still just kind of trying to learn my way around linux, this is my first time playing with it so i don't really know too much of what i'm doing
[02:59] <ubusammyn150> even sudo apptitude is telling me there is no drive "e" when i try to re-install libs
[02:59] <ubusammyn150> what is the command to reconfigure ubuntu?
[03:00] <escott> ubusammyn150, ubuntu doesn't use drive letters
[03:00] <Decision> usr13,  so what  do i need to do i can get the realtek driver for linux
[03:00] <ubusammyn150> yea it does
[03:00] <Squall5668> ubusammyn please specify "reconfigure ubuntu"
[03:00] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:00] <Decision> usr13, no idea how to instal it though
[03:00] <Decision> a .tar.bz2 file
[03:00] <Squall5668> and it really doesn't use them :)
[03:00] <ubusammyn150> like sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure is not working what is wrong?
[03:01] <hiexpo> miiike, go there and open that dir   first and see if there is a pro driver there if so click it and it will say not in use click it and use it
[03:01] <CooKieMonster> anyone know what is the best tv viewer for tv tuner card with philips chip on it ?
[03:01] <escott> ubusammyn150, sudo apt-get install program-name-goes-here
[03:01] <hypetech> ubusammyn150: just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[03:01] <miiike> hiexpo, how do i get there? it hangs everytime i try and start my laptop
[03:01] <hiexpo> !best | CooKieMonster
[03:01] <ubusammyn150> what if i want to reconfigure everything
[03:01] <hiexpo> miiike, hmm
[03:01] <Squall5668> you reinstall ubusammyn
[03:02] <ubusammyn150> wth is libacme-brainfuk-perl?
[03:02] <ubusammyn150> orry squall your ignored
[03:03] <Squall5668> Oo
[03:03] <usr13> miiike: You have installed nvidia driver and you don't have gui any more?  Is that your situation?
[03:03] <ubusammyn150> soo what exactly would i type...the entire name of the os kernal version?
[03:03] <escott> ubusammyn150, brainfuck is a programming language known for being very hard to understand. used more as a challenge for programmers
[03:03] <miiike> usr13, i just installed ubuntu, and installed that nvidia driver, and now when my laptop starts up it gets to "checking battery state" and hangs there
[03:04] <hiexpo> miiike, push esc button on boot and see it you can boot in safe mode
[03:04] <linuxdemon> how do i install torrents?
[03:04] <escott> ubusammyn150, you will have to explain more what you mean "reconfigure"
[03:04] <escott> !torrent | linuxdemon
[03:04] <usr13> miiike: so you can not login?
[03:04] <hiexpo> linuxdemon, you don't install torrents
[03:04] <usr13> miiike: Describe the screen.
[03:04] <miiike> usr13, nope, i can't do anything, it just stops at the black screen
[03:05] <miiike> hiexpo, i'll try that
[03:05] <linuxdemon> i know that i download them but i have yet to figure out how to install the programs
[03:05] <hiexpo> miiike, good luck   :)
[03:05] <ubusammyn150> libgconf2-4 gconfsanity?? is reporting error 256
[03:05] <ubusammyn150> how do we connect remotely?
[03:05] <escott> linuxdemon, we can't really help you install a program you downloaded off a torrent. we don't even know what it is
[03:05] <usr13> miiike: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[03:05] <linuxdemon> im trying to install parallels
[03:06] <hiexpo> linuxdemon, when you download them click open with and should be default transmission
[03:06] <Squall5668> miiike try shift too, to get the grub menu
[03:06] <jeremymcs> 'xterm-new': unknown terminal type.
[03:06] <usr13> miiike: (Hold Ctrl and Alt keys while hitting    F6
[03:06] <jeremymcs> anyone getting this on 10.10
[03:06] <usr13> miiike: And then login...
[03:07] <escott> !piracy | linuxdemon
[03:07] <miiike> usr13, that worked to log me in, i don't really know what to do from there though
[03:07] <ubusammyn150> i want to repair version 10.04 via terminal...
[03:07] <ubusammyn150> the entire os
[03:07] <ubusammyn150> not just one package or module
[03:08] <escott> jeremymcs, where are you getting this problem
[03:08] <usr13> miiike: Now what error were you getting?
[03:08] <escott> ubusammyn150, have you tried virtualbox?
[03:08] <Mitchell-92> Hey... I have a question - how does unity compare to gnome 3?
[03:08] <MrBean> Hi all, is it safe to use the gui frontend to APT (synaptic?) and CLI APT mixed?
[03:08] <escott> ubusammyn150, and how would parallels help you exactly !xy | ubusammyn150
[03:08] <lucus> hi... wanted to ask if it is worth migrating to btrfs at this stage
[03:08] <ubusammyn150> some packages are installed virtually and should not be
[03:09] <miiike> usr13, i wasn't getting a specific error, it would just hang when it got to "Checking Battery State" when it was booting
[03:09] <escott> lucus, no not really
[03:09] <jeremymcs> escott: whenever i type something, lol
[03:09] <ubusammyn150> wth does virtualbox have anything to do with what i'm trying to do?
[03:09] <ubusammyn150> it  doesnt
[03:09] <escott> jeremymcs, its probably something in your .bashrc did you mess with that
[03:09] <usr13> miiike: So this was right after install?
[03:09] <escott> ubusammyn150, sorry confused you with linuxdemon
[03:09] <jeremymcs> escott: nope
[03:09] <ubusammyn150> =/
[03:10] <jeremymcs> clean install, out of box ive gotten this on 2 machines
[03:10] <tjiggi_fo> MrBean, yes
[03:10] <miiike> usr13, i installed it and it started up with no problems, then i went to "additional drivers" and it suggested an nvidia driver, so i installed that and restarted and since i restarted it's been hanging at the battery message
[03:10] <escott> jeremymcs, its something about the terminal client you are using. it is reporting itself as xterm-new instead of xterm, and that is causing problems in the bashrc or somewhere
[03:10] <jeremymcs> escott: term is set for xterm-new .. and it gets that error
[03:10] <usr13> miiike: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:11] <lucus> escott: was thinking about all those goodies about subvolumes and compression. Seems a good scenario for dualbooting and installing other distros on the same partition. Is it very unstable at the moment?
[03:11] <usr13> miiike: What does that ^^^ say?
[03:11] <Bendyr> Hey I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on a dell mini 9, replacing a mac osx installation.  When I try to boot I get "boot0: error", but if I boot through a thumb drive I can get into ubuntu fine.  Is there a way to fix the bootloader without doing a full reinstall?
[03:11] <escott> linuxdemon, try virtualbox legal, no torrents and in the apt archive
[03:11] <linuxdemon> i have two questions...how does unity compare to gnome and also is wine the best windows emulator
[03:11] <miiike> just says "
[03:11] <miiike> "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:12] <escott> lucus, yeah... except for the random fsck errors when you get more than 15 subvolumes, and the slowness using firefox, and the unrecoverability from errors its great!
[03:12] <MrBean> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[03:12] <usr13> miiike: sudo  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:12] <escott> lucus, for a throwaway system by all means give it a go. but its not realistic for a system you will actually use
[03:12] <lucus> escott: LOL!!! You got me...
[03:13] <miiike> usr13, ooh, it went past it and to the login screen now
[03:13] <ubusammyn150> cannot open aptitude state file?
[03:13] <escott> lucus, im only running it now because im taking a break before school and have lots of spare time if it goes kapute
[03:13] <usr13> miiike: Yea, do it.
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: let us know what happens.
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: Oh, you have login screen now?  Good!  :)
[03:14] <miiike> usr13, yeah haha, i'm going to restart and make sure it'll go all the way now
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: Sorry... didn't understand you.
[03:14] <lucus> escott: to be completely honest I did an install. Have 3 subvolumes at the moment. @32 @64 @home. Works fine, only booting takes ages...
[03:14] <usr13> miiike: Ok.
[03:15] <miiike> usr13, out of curiosity, what did that actually do?
[03:15] <usr13> miiike: just got rid of an improperly written config file.
[03:15] <escott> lucus thats the fsck scans the whole drive takes 2+ minutes
[03:16] <usr13> miiike: ... and restarted the Xserver
[03:16] <rsouthard_> can someone recommend an easy program to resize icons?
[03:16] <miiike> usr13, ahh okay.  it started up perfectly, thanks so much!
[03:16] <usr13> miiike: You removed the file   /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file and restarted gdm which is the Desktop window manager.
[03:17] <lucus> escott: Is it necessary to do an fsck at every boot? can't this be tuned? I remember Hardy took over 2 minutes in similar situations, but every 30 boots or so
[03:18] <usr13> miiike: But you are now back to the OpenSource nvidia driver.  (And not using the proprietary one you installed earlier, it is not being used anymore.)
[03:18] <miiike> usr13, oh okay.  from what's been explained to me i guess i don't really need the proprietary one anyway
[03:19] <hiexpo> miiike, yes you do
[03:19] <ubusammyn150> still, not even regognizeing sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure... says E: invalid operation
[03:20] <jang_tech> miiike, but you can't use compiz.
[03:20] <cc11rocks> hello ubuntu
[03:20] <usr13> miiike: You can (now or later) try and repair it, or.. you can just keep using the OpenSource one, (which for all practical purposes, works just fine).
[03:20] <cc11rocks> when does Ubuntu 11.04 come out?
[03:20] <codex84> ccll
[03:20] <codex84> tommorow
[03:20] <usr13> cc11rocks: Later
[03:20] <cc11rocks> i know Ubuntu 11.04 comes out tomorrow
[03:21] <cc11rocks> like what exact time
[03:21] <xiambax> really?
[03:21] <Squall5668> there is no specified time
[03:21] <xiambax> tomorrow?
[03:21] <cc11rocks> okay ty
[03:21] <miiike> usr13, i wouldn't really even know where to begin with repairing it
[03:21] <codex84> no there time
[03:21] <codex84> bimbo lol
[03:21] <xiambax> im already running ubuntu+1
[03:22] <xiambax> there will be no big differences between what im running now and what gets released tomorrow
[03:22] <varunvyas> hi all
[03:22] <cc11rocks> are the Beta versions different then the official ones?
[03:22] <cc11rocks> xiambax, did you just answer my question?
[03:22] <Squall5668> yes, cc11rocks, they are not stable and they are not supported
[03:22] <cc11rocks> cause i have the Beta version on my flash drive
[03:22] <varunvyas> could i upgread from 10.04 to 11.04 ?
[03:22] <cc11rocks> all the programs kept crashing
[03:22] <Decision> usr13, did i miss your reply.....
[03:22] <rww_> varunvyas: you'd have to go through 10.10 first
[03:23] <varunvyas> ok
[03:23] <cc11rocks> upgrade to 10.10 then to 11.04 when it comes out
[03:23] <varunvyas> thanks friends
[03:23] <cc11rocks> np
[03:23] <Decision> usr13,  i have no idea how to  install the driver
[03:24] <usr13> miiike: well there are tools that can do that, but I think you would need to turn off the Xserver to use them.  nvidia-xconfig  is probably the one you would most likely need to use.  BUT, it is probably the utility that failed and created the error ridden /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the first place.
[03:24] <harrihu> I'm trying to get a pc with ubuntu 10 something to work with the s video port on the graphics card for a media pc
[03:24] <cc11rocks> does anyone know how to make Ubuntu run faster? it runs quite slow on my computer
[03:24] <harrihu> but it just rolls
[03:25] <cc11rocks> or maybe it's because it on a flash drive...is there a performance drop in using a flash drive over a hard drive? i would think it would be faster in some cases
[03:25] <harrihu> ccllrocks do you know the specs on your computer?
[03:25] <cc11rocks> *it's
[03:25] <usr13> miiike: But, that is not to say it wouldn't work  right the next time.  Who knows...
[03:25] <cc11rocks> yes i do
[03:25] <cc11rocks> one sec
[03:25] <harrihu> ccllrocks it would run way faster using a hard drive over a usb
[03:25] <cc11rocks> oh
[03:25] <harrihu> er um instad of a usb that is
[03:25] <usr13> cc11rocks: pastebinit /proc/cpuinfo
[03:26] <cc11rocks> CPU: Intel Atom N270 @ 1.60 GHz (Diamondville 45nm Technology)
[03:26] <usr13> cc11rocks: pastebinit /proc/meminfo
[03:26] <cc11rocks> RAM: 1.0GB Single-Channel DDR2@ 266 MHz
[03:26] <cc11rocks> Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 1005HA
[03:27] <usr13> cc11rocks: is that single core?
[03:27] <cc11rocks> yes
[03:27] <cc11rocks> Graphics: Digital flat panel 1024 X 768
[03:27] <usr13> cc11rocks: What did you install on it?  (What ISO?)
[03:27] <cc11rocks> Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family
[03:27] <ubusammyn150> yea i can't find anything related... to my issue in google..most people gave up and re0installed from cd etc
[03:27] <usr13> cc11rocks: lsb_release -a
[03:27] <cc11rocks> i've used 10.04, 10.10, and 11.04 Beta
[03:27] <cc11rocks> they all run kinda slow
[03:28] <harrihu> there is a version of ubuntu for older slower machines called xubuntu if I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong here )
[03:28] <ubusammyn150> 10.04 should work with older machines?
[03:28] <ubusammyn150> how old is this pc?
[03:28] <cc11rocks> about half a year to a year
[03:28] <usr13> cc11rocks: When is the last time you cracked it open and gave it a good cleaning?
[03:28] <Squall5668> cc11rocks 11.04 will be slow for you since unity needs too much 3d stuff, you can revert to ubuntu classic at login
[03:28] <cc11rocks> it's a netbook
[03:28] <cc11rocks> never usr13
[03:29]  * hiexpo system never broke   <   usually operator  broke
[03:29] <ubusammyn150> i have ubuntu 11 on my samsung n150 equvilent to a asus eepc
[03:30] <usr13> cc11rocks: Ok.  Open it up.    Wipe the heat sink contact area and the CPU contact area with alcohol, dry it off. put on new cpu grease, put it back together.
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> i used wubi tho
[03:30] <cc11rocks> with a netbook
[03:30] <cc11rocks> ?
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> yea
[03:30] <mfilipe> hi! i want apply a patch in my kernel (linux-image-generic-pae-<IP_ADDRESS>.22), so what is the better way to do this?
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> wubi isnt very popualr tho
[03:30] <harrihu> you don't really need to clean out a netbook
[03:30] <usr13> cc11rocks: Oh, it's a notebook... well.. That's a bit more complicated.
[03:30] <cc11rocks> That's scary man
[03:30]  * Decision wonders if i can be heard
[03:30] <harrihu> it's fine
[03:30] <cc11rocks> i could do it w/ a regular desktop
[03:30] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:30] <cc11rocks> not with a netbook
[03:30] <rww_> Decision: yes
[03:31] <usr13> cc11rocks: but it still could be clogged up with dust and overheating.
[03:31] <cc11rocks> true
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> all pc's need to be cleaned, but not such a new one
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> then it wouldnt even get bios
[03:31] <cc11rocks> running Windows 7 starter is fine
[03:31] <cc11rocks> it's fast
[03:31] <harrihu> just be sure to keep the vents open so the fans can work and if needed use a laptop cooling pad
[03:31] <usr13> ubusammyn150: They darn sure do in my house!  :)
[03:31] <cc11rocks> i would dual boot if Ubuntu was faster...
[03:31] <harrihu> it should be fine
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:31] <Johny_GM> hai everwyone..what time exactly will be ubuntu 11.04 be released?
[03:31] <Squall5668> Decision: what's wrong? i didn't see anything
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> ubuntu is faster
[03:31] <usr13> Johny_GM: Later
[03:31] <cc11rocks> that's what i asked Johny_GM
[03:31] <ubusammyn150> windows is slower
[03:32] <rww_> Johny_GM: When it's ready. There is no set time.
[03:32] <cc11rocks> i know
[03:32] <Squall5668> no specified time jhony
[03:32] <harrihu> as far as the netbook running slow there isn't much you can do. I'd make sure you aren't doing too much multitasking
[03:32] <multipass_> !countdown
[03:32] <cc11rocks> but Ubuntu is running slower on my computer
[03:32] <cc11rocks> not using as much RAM, but just slower
[03:32] <rww_> !countdown
[03:32] <usr13> harrihu: you could try a more lightweight Desktop Manager
[03:32] <ubusammyn150> the ubuntu netbook versions i dont think install the proper integrated gfx drivers
[03:32] <usr13> cc11rocks: you could try a more lightweight Desktop Manager
[03:33] <usr13> cc11rocks: xfce is fast
[03:33] <ubusammyn150> after i install the 965 chipset drivers it seemed to run faster
[03:33] <harrihu> Well actually I'm not worried about speed I have another problem
[03:33] <loller> ##namespace is the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool people there. In ##namespace you can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the ##namespace motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.
[03:33] <usr13> !xfce
[03:33] <harrihu> the s - video port rolls and is un viewable in ubuntu
[03:34] <harrihu> I need it to work because it's a media pc
[03:34] <ubusammyn150> ty ubottu
[03:34] <harrihu> worked fine in xp
[03:34] <rww_> loller: Don't advertise in here.
[03:34] <usr13> xfce is a little more limited, but not all that much.
[03:34] <cc11rocks> just went to the release party chat...they say it will be April 28th somewhere in the world
[03:34] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:34] <usr13> it's pretty nice
[03:34] <ubusammyn150> thats funny, dont advertise hehe
[03:35] <cc11rocks> me?
[03:35] <ubusammyn150> just dont advertise anything ot xD
[03:35] <ubusammyn150> yea it the 28th is austrailia
[03:36] <Guest11601> ..
[03:36] <cc11rocks> it IS the 28th in Australia or it will be released on the 28th in Austrialia?
[03:36] <cc11rocks> brb
[03:36]  * hiexpo patience is the best virtue
[03:37] <ubusammyn150> !landscape
[03:37] <uofm49426> why do i need a update for xorg savage ? my laptop is intel i915
[03:37] <Guest11601> hsajhkasa
[03:37] <ubusammyn150> how would landscape get installed without me telling it to?
[03:37] <rww_> uofm49426: because Ubuntu installs a range of Xorg drivers that fit most cards by default
[03:37] <gruvfunk> greetings, I have a 10.04 server (headless, no sound card) running web, mail and pbx - I can't get mp3 audio playback to work via the pbx and left wondering:   Do I need a sound card?  Or am I missing something?
[03:37] <pfifo> does upstart have the ability to run a job as a user other than root? keep in mind, su is not upstart and sudo is not upstart
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> you need a sound card
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> mp3 is encoded and decoded there
[03:38] <loller> if you used Windows you wouldn't need to configure a sound card manually
[03:38] <loller> it would just work out of the box
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> no cpu instruction sets are availble for mp3 codecs yet
[03:38] <multipass_> is it possible to have gnome and gnome3, and switch between them at login?
[03:38] <ubusammyn150> loller stfu
[03:38] <loller> mp3 codecs are included with Windows
[03:39] <loller> why not with Ubuntu?
[03:39] <rww_> loller: stop trolling
[03:39] <rww_> ubusammyn150: stop feeding trolls
[03:39] <uofm49426> i wish ubuntu wouldnt i only have a 3.6 gb of extra space
[03:39] <ubusammyn150> he would still need a sound card
[03:39] <ubusammyn150> lol
[03:39] <gruvfunk> ubusamyn150 thx   and rofl looler
[03:39] <loller> yeah
[03:39] <atlgeorge> q from a ubuntu noob...
[03:39] <ubusammyn150> rww, how am i feeding i want to stop feeding?
[03:39] <loller> try learning to read
[03:39] <atlgeorge> i've got a pkg installed that requires access to port 8010
[03:39] <atlgeorge> but even though the port seems to work by doing a wget locally
[03:40] <rww_> ubusammyn150: "stfu" is neither acceptable language in here nor a good way to stop trolls from talking.
[03:40] <atlgeorge> i can't access from something hitting my AWS instance... ideas?
[03:40] <ubusammyn150> agree
[03:40] <ubusammyn150> sorry
[03:40] <multipass_> is it possible to have gnome and gnome3, and switch between them at login?
[03:40] <uofm49426> 40 gb harddrive half windows haft ubuntu
[03:41] <gruvfunk> rww_ doesn't that just mean Stop Trolling Freenet Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <gruvfunk> Freenode rather
[03:41] <wilfredo> decompensation, I'm not clear on the term
[03:42] <Mac102250> Hey guys, new guy here. So deleted a user and now the damned machine keeps trying to log onto the deleted user, and I get stuck on a screen showing nothing but my desktop backgreound. So what am I doing wrong?
[03:43] <linuxdemon> question. how do i uninstall programs
[03:43] <uofm49426> anyone in here make package for ubuntu
[03:44] <taglass> linuxdemon: synaptic or apt-get remove "programname"
[03:44] <tensorpudding> linuxdemon: search for them in the software center and remove
[03:44] <frankcox777> howdy
[03:44] <mar7ar> !!!!!!!!!!who could help me i have typed by error apt-get remove libusb* then every thing is broken even lan and cd driver so i couldn`t use internet nor use apt-cdrom as source who could help me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:45] <Mac102250> Anyone? C'mon, I need some help here.
[03:45] <linuxdemon> thank you very much
[03:45] <linuxdemon> will there be an update alert for unity on the 28th?
[03:45] <uofm49426> i want a easy way bridge wifi and ethernet
[03:45] <infoloco> hi, I am looking for a software to watch tv on ubuntu, with a tv tuner card.. Suggestions?
[03:45] <Squall5668> Mac102250 please specify, it's trying to login to the deleted user on it's own?
[03:46] <BrumDart> Mac102250: how did you delete the user?
[03:46] <Mac102250> When I turn on the computer, it tries to log directly onto the deleted user
[03:46] <Squall5668> which user did you delete? one you made yourself, or one of the premade ones? :)
[03:46] <taglass> Mac102250: Have a look at /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[03:47] <Mac102250> BrumDart: I clicked the admin tab and went down to the very bottom and clicked "User Groups" or something like that
[03:47] <ubusammyn150> ok where is the config files for synaptic/install update?
[03:48] <Loshki> mar7ar: that's a hard one to recover from. You might have to reinstall from scratch.
[03:48] <Loshki> !tv | infoloco
[03:48] <ubusammyn150> for some reason update and all commands in terminal refer to E: drive or an internet connection, someone remotely connected and messed up my system
[03:48] <uofm49426> how do i tell video ram used i ubuntu
[03:48] <infoloco> ok perfect
[03:48] <taglass> Mac102250: The file I gave you controls automatic login.
[03:48] <infoloco> thks alot
[03:48] <Mac102250> Oh?
[03:48] <uofm49426> i have a intel i915gm
[03:48] <taglass> /etc/gdm//custom.conf
[03:49] <ubusammyn150> So how do i restore the config files?
[03:49] <ubusammyn150> hm
[03:49] <frankcox777> Mac10
[03:49] <frankcox777>  http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html
[03:50] <frankcox777> sorry-infoloco was looking for tuner software
[03:50] <rapeman> rapeman: Welcome to #ubuntu! #ubuntu is the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool people there. In #ubuntu you can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the #ubuntu motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.
[03:50] <atlgeorge> with ubuntu on an AWS instance... ubuntu firewall disabled, aws security group set to wide open (0-65535 on <IP_ADDRESS>/0), is there any reason i shouldn't be able to connect to a port by hitting my AWS IP?
[03:50] <mfilipe> I'm using a generic-pae kernel and I want apply a patch on him. I will install linux-source and kernel-package but how do I do to active PAE support?
[03:50] <Spaz_Dynamic> I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting.
[03:51] <frankcox777> Infoloco -here is a link for Hauppauge cards
[03:51] <frankcox777> http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html
[03:51] <oscar-linux> has anyone has found something interesting on ubuntu 11.04?
[03:51] <hiexpo> mfilipe, there is no support using pae
[03:51] <syntaur> atlgeorge: You sure the program isn't binding to localhost or something?
[03:52] <rww_> mfilipe: just use the PAE kernel package...
[03:52] <Mac102250> taglass: How do I edit the file? It skips and goes straight the the deleted account, and I'm unable to do anything.
[03:52] <rww_> !pae
[03:52] <atlgeorge> so sorry, whoever was kind enough to reply... i accidnetally termed my channel window, can you pls repost?
[03:52] <frankcox777> can anyone tell me how to take a version of a game from one Ubuntu install and put it in another with the same program-different version?
[03:52] <taglass> Mac102250: I would change AutomaticLoginEnable=true to false
[03:52] <syntaur> atlgeorge: No prob :P You sure the program isn't binding to localhost or something?
[03:52] <rww_> atlgeorge: 02:51:58 < syntaur> atlgeorge: You sure the program isn't binding to localhost or something?
[03:53] <rww_> ah, nvm :)
[03:53] <mfilipe> rww_, but linux-source package hasn't pae enabled
[03:53] <Squall5668> Mac102250 you can press ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to tty1
[03:53] <rww_> !pae > mfilipe
[03:53] <Mac102250> Oh
[03:53] <mfilipe> hum... ok
[03:53] <mfilipe> thanks
[03:53] <atlgeorge> syntaur: i'd be surprised, but it's worth a look. we've run this away from AWS without issues like that... but who knows.
[03:55] <ubusammyn150> ubuntu has no pae?
[03:55] <cc11rocks> can you upgrade from Ubuntu Beta 11.04 to official version?
[03:55] <syntaur> atlgeorge: That's all I can think of. If firewall isn't interfering, and you can access it locally, but not remotely.
[03:55] <cc11rocks> do you lose any data?
[03:55] <rww_> !final | cc11rocks
[03:56] <gruvfunk> ubusammyn150 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[03:56] <atlgeorge> syntaur: worth a shot, thx, it'll take some code archaeology, unfortunately (not my code, of course)
[03:56] <cc11rocks> ty
[03:56] <hcook> hey guys. i'm looking to install a 32 bit program (Guitar Pro 6) on 10.10 AMD64 with a wrapper. the only doc i found about this was really old: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 ...just wondering whether that information is still valid and/or whether anybody had a pointer to something more appropriate.
[03:56] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to default browser on ubuntu 11.04? I want to set it chrome as default as it was before the upgrade changed it to firefox? any command or setting?
[03:56] <ubusammyn150> cool
[03:56] <cc11rocks> remove firefox
[03:57] <cordoval_> is that the only way?
[03:57] <cordoval_> i want to keep it just in case
[03:57] <cordoval_> not all works on chrome you know
[03:57] <Mac102250> Squall5668, taglass...You've both been tremendously helpful. Thank you.
[03:57] <cc11rocks> to make vlc media player default, i had to remove all the media apps that came w/ it
[03:57] <ravibn> Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10
[03:57] <Squall5668> anytime Mac
[03:57] <frankcox777> can any one tell me how to take a game out of one ubuntu install and copy it to another? The other install has a version of the same game already
[03:57] <ravi> hey guys ..
[03:57] <ravi> had a question ..
[03:57] <cordoval_> anyone how to set default browser on 11.04
[03:57] <stravant> I have a problem with mounting USB drives. Ubuntu always used to automatically mount USB sticks when I plugged them in, but it suddenly isn't anymore. I have already checked the /automount-stuff key in gconfig and it is set to true. How should I proceed now to figure out what's wrong?
[03:57] <stravant> These other things also stopped working around the same time (maybe at the same time?): My deskop is stuck automatically setting "keep desktop organized by name" when I log in. Also, Nautilus is all of a sudden taking forever to open large folders, when it was virtually instant before.
[03:57] <ravi> is 11.04 a LTS ?
[03:57] <cordoval_> what is the name for 11.04?
[03:58] <rww_> ravi: no
[03:58] <Squall5668> cordoval_ natty narwal
[03:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> natty
[03:58] <cordoval_> natty
[03:58] <cordoval_> anyone knows how to set default browser on natty?
[03:58] <ravi> rww_, any known bugs with 11.04?
[03:58] <rww_> ravi: yes
[03:58] <ravi> if going from 10.04 - 11.04
[03:58] <Squall5668> cordoval_ try "update-alternatives –config x-www-browser"
[03:58] <cordoval_> i had a similar problem with usb yesterday
[03:58] <rww_> ravi: 10.04 to 11.04 requires going through 10.10 first.
[03:58] <Squall5668> cordoval_ if should ask for a default browser
[03:58] <ravi> :(
[03:59] <piovisqui> 7/topic
[03:59] <ravibn> Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10
[03:59] <cordoval_> updaterelatives
[03:59] <ravibn> pl help
[03:59] <fieris> exit
[03:59] <cordoval_> why ?
[03:59] <cordoval_> why '?'
[03:59] <ravi> any1 tried 11.04 on a thinkpad?
[03:59] <stravant> cordoval_: Did you find any solutions?
[03:59] <ravi> i had trouble with 10.10
[03:59] <cc11rocks> well yesterday when i was doing some stuff, my main HDD stopped showing up
[03:59] <ravi> on a lenovo
[03:59] <cordoval_> yes mount it manually and perhaps it can work after a reset, check permissions too
[04:00] <cc11rocks> when i tried to set VLC media player as default, i kept getting error messages
[04:00] <cordoval_> update-alternatives -config x-www-browser
[04:00] <Squall5668> you asked how to change default browser didn't you? that command will ask for a browser to use at gnome gui tools
[04:00] <cc11rocks> it was working and then just took a dump
[04:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting.
[04:00] <ravibn> ravi : search for ramsrambo in ubuntu Forums under Dell
[04:01] <ravi> why dell ravibn
[04:01] <ravi> ?
[04:01] <ravibn> Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10 Pl help
[04:01] <cordoval_> update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:01] <cordoval_> sudo of course
[04:01] <ravi> i have a lenovo ..
[04:01] <Squall5668> yes, sorry
[04:01] <ravibn> ravi : bcos I had few problems while installing on latitude
[04:02] <taglass> cordoval_: you might have to do gnome-www-browser as well
[04:02] <ravi> oh ..
[04:02] <ravi> not good
[04:02] <cordoval_> oh thanks
[04:02] <cordoval_> will check
[04:02] <ravi> i guess ill have to stick with 10.04 :(
[04:02] <ravi> i was so excited
[04:02] <Squall5668> tell us if that solves your problem
[04:02] <cordoval_> ravi don't
[04:02] <as2000> will I have to re-install after the release tomorrow?
[04:02] <rww_> as2000: no, you can upgrade
[04:02] <ravibn> Any one Here : Unable to capture audio and record in gnome-sound-recorder ver 2.31 Maverick 10.10
[04:03] <cordoval_> give me a url
[04:03] <ravibn> or suggest any other sound recorder
[04:03] <cordoval_> http://www.pastie.org
[04:03] <hiexpo> rww_, gonna get busy
[04:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting. How can I resolve the segfault and get a GUI running again?
[04:03] <ravi> i can upgrade without issues?
[04:03] <cordoval_> ahh still firefox pops up
[04:03] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:04] <celestial> hi everyone i have a question is there a filesystem like ntfs for linux that dont have file permissions blocking from use on other computers for me the ntfs driver seems to be slow
[04:04] <slimdoogi> hi i was trying to find a graphics driver but cannot determin my actual hardware. this is what i get in lshw. http://pastebin.com/0ck07caE   is there any other option to find my exact hardware?
[04:04] <cordoval_> perhaps I need to restart
[04:04] <Squall5668> cordoval_ what was the command msg? any errors?
[04:04] <cordoval_> command msg for what?
[04:04] <brianous> hi
[04:04] <cordoval_> no errors
[04:04] <brianous> how many hours to ubuntu? :D
[04:04] <cordoval_> 0 auto chrome
[04:05] <cordoval_> 1 manual ff
[04:05] <rww_> brianous: it'll be released when it's done, not at a set time
[04:05] <cordoval_> 2 manual chrome
[04:05] <Squall5668> what did you change it to?
[04:05] <hcook> based on what i've seen of the blendtech i'm pretty sure it'll blend
[04:05] <hcook> woops
[04:05] <cordoval_> to 2 and then now to 0
[04:05] <taglass> cordoval_: I'm not sure, but maybe you can pick chrome in the Preferred Applications gui?
[04:05] <hcook> sorry wrong tab
[04:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> hcook: +1
[04:05] <brianous> oh I thought there was a countdown
[04:05] <cordoval_> where is that?
[04:05] <cordoval_> preferred
[04:05] <brianous> came to join the party
[04:05] <taglass> cordoval_: System Settings
[04:05] <hcook> hey guys. i'm looking to install a 32 bit program (Guitar Pro 6) on 10.10 AMD64 with a wrapper. the only doc i found about this was really old: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 ...just wondering whether that information is still valid and/or whether anybody had a pointer to something more appropriate.
[04:06] <cordoval_> how to get there, this is natty I don't know where things went
[04:06] <virusuy> anyone knows when (hour) is natty launched ?
[04:06] <cc11rocks> i code in java...how do you start jar files?
[04:06] <Squall5668> cordoval even though we don't support natty here, try searching :)
[04:06] <taglass> click on your name in the top right of screen
[04:06] <cc11rocks> in windows all i have to do is double click it...
[04:06] <brianous> java -d classpath name.jar
[04:06] <cordoval_> just got it
[04:06] <mickster04> !who
[04:06] <taglass> err I'm sorry on the power button
[04:06] <cordoval_> had to search it the natty way
[04:06] <taglass> bottom entry
[04:07] <cordoval_> well thanks for that
[04:07] <cordoval_> give me http://www.pastie.org
[04:07] <cordoval_> ok now it is solved
[04:07] <cc11rocks> thanks
[04:07] <cordoval_> nice
[04:07] <ryan_> is there a specific channel to get support for errors? (specifically with ubuntu)
[04:07] <cordoval_> I like natty
[04:07] <FloodBot2> cordoval_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <cordoval_> sorry
[04:07] <Squall5668> glad it's fixxed, and thanks taglass, i have to stop being a CLI warrior :)
[04:08] <Herbs> hi all, have an ubuntu box that keeps respawning basically tty1 seems to be crashing and constantly respawning anyone got any ideas Im flumoxed
[04:08] <cc11rocks> how do i make an executable jar file? in windows it works but in Ubuntu it says it's not executable and that i need a script
[04:08] <cc11rocks> do i have to use scripts?
[04:08] <Spaz_Dynamic> cc11rocks: have you set the permissions?
[04:08] <Squall5668> Herbs, did you try booting in recovery mode?
[04:08] <cc11rocks> permissions for?
[04:08] <ryan_> hey everyone, i just set up ubuntu on my new lenovo thinkpad and the mouse is going crazy, i jumps all over the screen and I have to restart the laptop to fix it... what the heck can I do to fix this, i'm very new to ubuntu
[04:08] <cc11rocks> Ubuntu?
[04:08] <Herbs> oops forgot to mention thats when you try to login single user works fine
[04:09] <slimdoogi> cc11rocks, sudo chmod +x /your/file
[04:09] <cc11rocks> java?
[04:09] <Spaz_Dynamic> cc11rocks: the jar file
[04:09] <cordoval_> I used to have indicators on 10.10 on the pannels how do I get them back? I had temperature sensors and my messages would popup or windows for me to select
[04:09] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: you need to change the permissions of the file to be executable
[04:09] <cordoval_> can i still have pannels?
[04:09] <slimdoogi> cc11rocks, in termional of course
[04:09] <Squall5668> ryan_ try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:09] <cc11rocks> oh...so just right click it, properties *cuts off*
[04:10] <cc11rocks> can i do it through the GUI?
[04:10] <Minimal> Hey any1 knows how long till the 11.04 realse??
[04:10] <cc11rocks> or terminol?
[04:10] <cc11rocks> no Minimal
[04:10] <rww_> !countdown
[04:10] <cc11rocks> !countdown
[04:10] <celthunder> cc11rocks: java -jar <file>
[04:10] <cc11rocks> doesn't work
[04:10] <Minimal> :(
[04:10] <Minimal> I know its the 28th but acording to what time zone ? :(
[04:10] <celthunder> or javacc i think works
[04:10] <cc11rocks> celthunder...and that makes it an executable jar?
[04:10] <cordoval_> I can be distracted in a content and forget about things I was doing, that is why I think panels were useful
[04:10] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 forgot to mention thats when trying to login when it tries to authenticate the user tty1 dies and respawns its an 8.04 server (not mine)
[04:11] <cordoval_> now with natty I can't keep track of other things
[04:11] <cordoval_> how to solve it?
[04:11] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: that wont make it executable, that will just run the jar from a command line
[04:11] <cc11rocks> so i just have to jar it up in Ubuntu instead of Windows right?
[04:11] <cordoval_> dropbox icon running does not show either
[04:11] <cordoval_> skype does but hardly
[04:11] <Squall5668> Herbs: so, what about "recovery mode"
[04:11] <cc11rocks> so how do i make it an exe jar?
[04:11] <Squall5668> Herbs: did you try it?
[04:11] <cc11rocks> it's an exe in Windows
[04:11] <cc11rocks> i thought Java was multi-platform
[04:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> cc11rocks: are you talking about minecraft, by chance?
[04:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> xD
[04:12] <celthunder> it is
[04:12] <cc11rocks> i don't have any OS specific things in my code
[04:12] <slimdoogi> cc11rocks, did u not get the command i typed to u?
[04:12] <cc11rocks> mincraft is?
[04:12] <cc11rocks> a game?
[04:12] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: slimdoogi posted a solution earlier
[04:12] <BrumDart> chmod +x jarfile
[04:12] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 single user logins in fine the permissions on dev/tty1 look fine and the script in /etc/events.d/tty1 looks fine also
[04:13] <cc11rocks> okay cool...so to be clear, BrumDart, that is the answer?
[04:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> and then
[04:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> java -jar /path/to/your/file.jar
[04:13] <cc11rocks> i know the second part
[04:13] <cordoval_> also I can't zoom like i used to with the windows key
[04:13] <cordoval_> it used to zoom the whole desktop in and out
[04:13] <cc11rocks> i make JARs through CLI in Windows
[04:13] <Squall5668> Herbs: you still haven't answered my question, Did you try booting in recovery mode? if you don't know how to, please ask me
[04:13] <cordoval_> and now that feature is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[04:13] <cordoval_> rats!
[04:14] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 single user is recovery mode
[04:14] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: i always run jar files from the command line anyway, i've never tried just double clicking one from inside the file manager
[04:14] <cordoval_> i want to like natty, but not sure how to do some things
[04:14] <cordoval_> is there a tutorial on how to handle it better?
[04:14] <xsinick_laptop> when is the ubuntu relase?
[04:14] <cordoval_> any natty tutorial?
[04:14] <cc11rocks> well, i distribute to users
[04:14] <wilfredo> I get a message saying decompensation, I have installed an AMD Phenom AMD a motherboard ECS ELITEGROUP MCP61M-M3 and when I install Ubuntu gives me eror what does that mean? I have also installed a 1GB DDR3 memory ADATA brand, has a hard disk of 160 gb samsumg brand
[04:14] <xsinick_laptop> is it at 12:am
[04:14] <taglass> cordoval_: There are some videos on youtube people have posted
[04:14] <cc11rocks> they don't want to use CLI
[04:14] <rww_> xsinick_laptop: it's not at a set time
[04:15] <cordoval_> going to check now
[04:15] <cordoval_> thanks
[04:15] <celthunder> cc11rocks: add a shebang to it? idk if that'd work or not
[04:15] <celthunder> just an idea
[04:15] <cordoval_> will they be enough, I just wonder
[04:15] <cc11rocks> shebang?
[04:15] <sdegutis> im using an irc client.
[04:15] <cordoval_> how to search "natty"?
[04:15] <cc11rocks> what is that?
[04:15] <Spaz_Dynamic> I require assistance. I boot my computer, and get dumped to tty2. switching to tty7 shows that most things loaded (I think). I log in to tty2 and running startx gives me a segfault, and says that the server is aborting. How can I resolve the segfault and get a GUI running again?
[04:15] <celthunder> cc11rocks: #!/usr/bin/java -jar  at the top of the file
[04:15] <cordoval_> alpha 3?
[04:15] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: will the other users be running the jar on a windows or linux system?
[04:15] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 and I told you I tried single user and that works fine
[04:15] <cc11rocks> both
[04:16] <cdoktor19> where to download ubuntu 11.04 release ?????
[04:16] <celthunder> probably wouldn't work as that's not even java but :/ i just run mine from the cli
[04:16] <Herbs> sorry Squall5668 whats your experience no offence Im a 2nd line Linux engineer
[04:16] <rww_> cdoktor19: it's not out yet
[04:16] <xsinick_laptop> rww_: it's exactly april 29th  like after 12 tonight would I be available as said on the site?
[04:16] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[04:16] <cdoktor19> aw aw aw
[04:16] <cc11rocks> add  "#!/usr/bin/java -jar" to the manifest file?
[04:16] <Squall5668> Herbs: mine is probably worse :)
[04:16] <rww_> xsinick_laptop: it'll be released sometime between now and when it stops being April 28th everywhere in the world.
[04:16] <taglass> cc11rocks: Try looking at http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html  You could make a clickable icon that way.
[04:16] <rww_> assuming it isn't delayed :3
[04:17] <cdoktor19> are 28 April now
[04:17] <bloopletech> Think of the release date more as a guide than a statement of actual temporal certainty
[04:17] <cc11rocks> April 28 for me in 4 hours
[04:17] <BrumDart> cc11rocks another solution would be to make a 2 line bash script that will launch the jar file
[04:17] <wilfredo> q slow write apology for speaking Spanish
[04:17] <cordoval_> que cosa?
[04:17] <cordoval_> como que apologies?
[04:17] <cc11rocks> not familiar with bash script
[04:17] <rww_> !es
[04:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: yeah, I don't know what to look for though. it points out the segfault near the bottom as well
[04:17] <cc11rocks> similar to batch script? i know what it is
[04:17] <xsinick_laptop> for me in an hour and it's 28th
[04:17] <cc11rocks> just don't know for to code
[04:18] <Herbs> I get lost with the differences in Ubuntu sometimes becaue Im so used to Red hat based distros
[04:18] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: is this a new install?
[04:18] <xsinick_laptop> US eastern time is the time everyone runs on
[04:18] <cdoktor19> ohhhh, i think they copy to all server in the world now
[04:18] <rww_> !countdown
[04:19] <hiexpo> gonna be alotof problems in the beginning for 11.04   >   servers gonna be overwhelmed  and lots of bad md5sum's
[04:19] <cc11rocks> Ubuntu 11.04 is NOT online yet...
[04:19] <cc11rocks> countdown
[04:19] <cc11rocks> !countdown
[04:19] <cc11rocks> doesn't work
[04:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: somewhat. I did install it yesterday, but I also set my graphics driver to proprietary and attempted to update to 11.04
[04:19] <taglass> xsinick_laptop: I know redhat releases are EST based.  I would assume Canonical are using GMT though?
[04:19] <|SonGoku|> Buenas noches..
[04:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: after the update though, i get this.
[04:19] <celestial> can anyone help filesystem with no permissions like ntfs but native linux
[04:20] <|SonGoku|> Alguien habla español ?
[04:20] <tripelb> re how to play this video: video formats vob bup ifo - this is what I have. what do I do? There are lots of files instead of one AVI file. Normally I like to use VLC
[04:20] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: I suggest reinstalling
[04:20] <rww_> cc11rocks: please use #ubuntu-release-party for Ubuntu release-related comments ;)
[04:20] <rww_> |SonGoku|: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <Spaz_Dynamic> !es |SonGoku|
[04:20] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: i'll throw an example into a pastebin for you
[04:20] <|SonGoku|> thanks!!!!
[04:20] <hiexpo> !es |SonGoku|
[04:20] <taglass> tripelb: That's a dvd.
[04:21] <tripelb> taglass. I downloaded it from the internet. it's all in a directory. what do I do to play it? thanks
[04:21] <cc11rocks> thanks
[04:21] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: bah, really?
[04:21] <temporarytao> hi, can anyone point me where to find help adding postgresql support to my LAMP setup?
[04:21] <cc11rocks> what's the address? or you'll give it to me in a minute
[04:21] <cc11rocks> ?
[04:21] <wilfredo> thanks for your help tomorrow, I have to leave my home, I was late luck at all
[04:21] <tripelb> taglass, do I have to make an iso file out of it. I'm so ignorant.
[04:21] <rww_> timccc: tell VLC to open disc and point it to the directory you have
[04:21] <rww_> tripelb: ^^
[04:21] <rww_> timccc: sorry, mistab
[04:21] <tripelb> rww_, thanks
[04:21]  * tripelb just loves this channel.
[04:22] <ChogyDan> Spaz_Dynamic: yeah.. it is the fastest solution
[04:22] <cdoktor19> can some one tell me what version must i download i386 or amd64 my processor is Intel Core2Duo T6570 i read in cpu test its 64-bit processor
[04:22] <BrumDart> cc11rocks: http://pastebin.com/UXwtqWwi
[04:22] <celthunder> cdoktor19: amd64
[04:23] <cc11rocks> thanks BrumDart...how to PM?
[04:23] <celthunder> though you can run either...no reason not to run 64 if you can
[04:23] <timccc> rww_: when you beeped me, my VLC paused
[04:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> ChogyDan: Eh, alright. I have a separate /home partition, when installing, how do I make it so that it doesn't install a new one and uses the old one as my ~
[04:23] <timccc> how does that work?
[04:23] <evilsushi> anyone here familiar or is using duplicity for backups? how far has it scaled for you? would you use this in a enterprise environment?
[04:23] <cc11rocks> !BrumDart Testing
[04:23] <timccc> ha
[04:23] <celthunder> Spaz_Dynamic: setup the partitions and don't format /home?
[04:23] <cdoktor19> even my processor not AMD based ?
[04:23] <tripelb> rww_, wow I can do the same thing then with the iso file from the dvd I copied -- then destroyed the original so I cant read it. Oh my Ponyo will be saved.