[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: if you want to compile everything, install gentoo and no ubuntu
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Flannel> dooglus: apt-get source [package]  gets the source of that package
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: http://www.gentoo.org/
[09:16] <Glined|4|life> thats why i said hold on a sec
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: /join #gentoo
[09:16] <unop> agliv5,  well its like this -- some software's source can take advantage of compiler optmizations, the environment, etc .. some doesnt .. what i find is that compiling software for applications i use often and/or require these optmizations is better than compiling absolutely everything
[09:16] <dooglus> Flannel: right.
[09:16] <agliv5> Byan, and what distro might that be?
[09:16] <fudgeEater> alluc.org = #1 source for movies and tv shows!!!!
[09:16] <Lynoure> fudgeEater: I have no belief you are an actual person, but stop it anyway
[09:16] <Byan> agliv5: the distro is gentoo...
[09:16] <Flannel> !ops
[09:16] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:16] <Yodude> unop: it's in the pastebin now
[09:16] <fudgeEater> Bot error
[09:17] <fudgeEater> errrrrr
[09:17] <thoreauputic> Flannel: ?
[09:17] <unop> Yodude,  whats the url ?:p
[09:17] <Flannel> thoreauputic: fudgeeater
[09:17] <Glined|4|life> it keeps freezeing and its really slow :(
[09:17] <Yodude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5537/ lol:)
[09:18] <unop> billybob,  are /home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies two source directories .. being moved into /home/backup ?
[09:18] <dooglus> hrm.  the edgy update finished, but trying to run X still tells me "(EE) No devices detected"
[09:18] <dooglus> I've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:18] <billybob> unop: actually /home/yyrkoon/files is a includes file containing *.jpg only
[09:19] <PwcrLinux> hi there
[09:19] <billybob> unop: in other words, i want to copy all jpg files, nothing else
[09:19] <Byan> dooglus: I was just about to ask you if there was a device attached.. but you are probably using it right now..
[09:19] <vanlinx> wh ycant people see what im writing?
[09:20] <Flannel> vanlinx: Beryl/XGL support is #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <thoreauputic> vanlinx: have you said anything ? ;-)
[09:20] <nevron> i need to rip some dvds is it easy to do for a starter?
[09:20] <dooglus> Byan: it's a laptop and I'm using the built-in LCD panel.  The graphic card is an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB
[09:20] <dooglus> (it says on the sticker)
[09:20] <unop> billybob,  ok - i think this is it then -- rsync -av --include="*jpg" /home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies /home/backup/
[09:20] <agliv5> Byan, according to unop a complete compile might not be worth it as much as compiling certian packages... I think I will go the mid-route and install base and compile everything else ;)
[09:20] <Yodude> unop: so? what doyou think?
[09:20] <unop> Yodude,  un minute :)
[09:20] <vanlinx> oh ok thanks
[09:20] <Yodude> k :)
[09:20] <Byan> agliv5: actually...
[09:20] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, how do i remove the games i got preinstalled with gnome?
[09:20] <billybob> unop: okie will give it a go
[09:20] <ruben> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:21] <Byan> compiling the kernal would probably be one of the most.. beneficial things to do...
[09:21] <PwcrLinux> my video driver seem working fine, im still see my system spikes cpu at 100 when I run a FF browser and DVD player..
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Language: English
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Keyboard layout: U.S. English
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Name: mark
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Login name: flip
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  Location: America/New_York
[09:21] <Glined|4|life>  GRUB will be installed to
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> No partition table changes and no creation of file systems have been
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> planned.
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> If you plan on using already created file systems, be aware that existing
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> files may prevent the successful installation of the base system.
[09:21] <Glined|4|life> what dose that mean?
[09:21] <thoreauputic> !paste | Glined|4|life
[09:21] <ubotu> Glined|4|life: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <billybob> unop: nope, happil still copying the entire contents of /home/movies
[09:22] <unop> gOLdenHaWK3D,  errm, you can use the add/remove programs thingy -- or manually install them
[09:22] <billybob> happily*
[09:22] <Yodude> !pastebin | Glines|for|life
[09:22] <ubotu> Glines|for|life: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <Glined|4|life> sorry but what dose it mean?
[09:22] <unop> Yodude,  aer you on edgy?
[09:22] <Yodude> inop: yes
[09:22] <gOLdenHaWK3D> unop, can u please tell me the manual way of uninstalling them?
[09:22] <Yodude> unop*
[09:22] <dooglus> Byan: turns out the fix was simple - install xorg-driver-fglrx.  somehow it had gotten uninstalled(!)
[09:22] <Byan> dooglus: weird..
[09:23] <unop> billybob,  ok, what's the status of play with /home/movies .. what do you intend to do with it or file in it?
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> Glined|4|life: if you plan install just linux only or daul boot, which one you would like to put in it?
[09:23] <funkyzire> i get sometimes error from (KDE?) programs: amarok and K3B: cant laun kmail notofier or something
[09:23] <billybob> unop: its a mountpoint XFS file system, for backing up my desktop machine
[09:23] <funkyzire> whats that ?
[09:23] <Glined|4|life> i would like to daul boot
[09:23] <funkyzire> *on gnome
[09:24] <unop> Yodude,  ok, i'd suggest changing you /etc/apt/sources.list to match this - http://pastebin.ca/348620 -- then updating apt again, etc
[09:24] <billybob> unop: right now, im trying to organize my pictures, to put somewhere else
[09:24] <Yodude> unop: k thnkx
[09:24] <PwcrLinux> Glined|4|life: is your windows in your hard drive? I don't know someone might know from here..
[09:24] <Glined|4|life> yes windows is on harddrive
[09:24] <unop> billybob,  ok, wait let me get this straight -- you want to backup picures in  /home/yyrkoon/files? and put them in /home/backup?
[09:25] <billybob> unop: i want to backup everything that ends with *.jpg, from /home/movies, to an alternate directory, retaining directory structures
[09:25] <ny83> can someone tell me if you are using "OTR" for instant messaging, do both people in a conversation need to be using it?
[09:25] <PwcrLinux> anyone, Glined|4|life need help with dual installation.
[09:26] <thoreauputic> !install | Glined|4|life
[09:26] <ubotu> Glined|4|life: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:26] <billybob> unop: target destination is really irrelivent atm
[09:26] <unop> billybob,  errm, why don't you use mv then? :)
[09:27] <billybob> unop: we're talking 10's of thousands of files, in different directories, and i want to retain theeir respect directory structure
[09:27] <Glined|4|life> ok i get an error it says no filesystem is defined
[09:27] <black_13> does ubuntu use dexconf
[09:27] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: read the URLs Ubotu sent you
[09:27] <unop> billybob,  ok, i see where you are going -- the directory might have other files in it and you just want *jpg?
[09:28] <PwcrLinux> <== just pure linux only on the lappy :)
[09:28] <aphexer> I had a dual headed configuration set up fine, but since an update of x11 about a week ago, there are some strange issues... When I move a window to my external screen, it can only move to about the half of the screen. The right half of my external screen is unuseable... Anyone knows how to fix this,
[09:28] <aphexer> ?
[09:28] <unop> billybob,  while maintaing the directory structure of those *jpg in the new location?
[09:28] <billybob> unop: well, some files may have the same name, so they must be in their respective directories (digi cam does that)
[09:29] <unop> billybob,  yes, exactly
[09:29] <PwcrLinux> gn all, off to the bed for now :)
[09:29] <agliv5> Byan, unop, so gentoo + compile everything or i.e Xubuntu + software compile? what would you both recomend? Would it make sence to compile the linux kernel?
[09:30] <billybob> unop: anyhow rsync is supposed to do this, everyone is telling me im doing something wrong, but from what i can tell, im no :/ its quite distressing
[09:30] <Flannel> agliv5: there's really no reason to compile anything.  You'll waste more time compiling (you've wasted more time thinking about compiling) than you'll ever make up in performance benefits
[09:30] <unop> billybob,  you are definitely on the right path -- i'm just making certain that you get the command for just what you want, know what i mean? :)
[09:30] <thoreauputic> agliv5: gentoo if you want to compile - but you get about 1% performance increase anyway :)
[09:30] <dooglus> billybob: you can use 'tar' to do that.
[09:31] <Glined|4|life> how do i find out how mutch space i have available for ubuntu
[09:31] <billybob> unop: yeah, im just very frustrated, been at this for hours.
[09:31] <unop> billybob,  also, i don't see where this /home/yyrkoon/files directory comes into play .. whats it's deal?
[09:31] <aphexer> Glined|4|life, maybe "df -h" will tell you
[09:31] <billybob> unop: its a patch to the include-file
[09:31] <billybob> path*
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: check your space from windows - you should defrag windows before you install Ubuntu as well
[09:32] <billybob> unop: i tried --include, didnt work either, but they are related
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Glined|4|life: assuming you want dual boot
[09:33] <billybob> unop: in other words, you can specify an include file, and put the rules, or patterns in it similar to what you'd do with --include
[09:33] <Keitaru> hello
[09:33] <unop> billybob,  yea, i gathered -- i'm trying this out here now, but i seem to be doing something wrong too... gimme 2 secs :)
[09:33] <billybob> unop: and the man page doesnt help much, in that it has loads of unreadable symbols in it for my locale . . .
[09:34] <Keitaru> I am trying to install ubuntu using a Live CD but always seem to freeze at the partition step/install.(this is when the cd stops spinning and it freezes)  Anyone know whats the problem?
[09:34] <mneptok> Keitaru: bad burn?
[09:34] <Keitaru> nope
[09:35] <billybob> unop: i hope this isnt another one of Edgy's quirks . . .
[09:35] <mneptok> Keitaru: did you md5sum the .iso file and check the CD for defects?
[09:35] <Keitaru> mneptok: you mean the option on the live cd where it says Check CD for Defect?
[09:35] <peter__> ?
[09:35] <mneptok> Keitaru: yes.
[09:35] <peter__> quit
[09:36] <Keitaru> I'll try that in a minute I am going to give this another go
[09:36] <mneptok> peter__: /quit
[09:36] <mart81> et OsX er wel weer op, ik vind drie dagen prutsen om bv filmpjes te kijken en het programma voor de aangifte van de belastingdienst te installeren meer dan genoeg.
[09:36] <arnadelo> Keitaru, it happened to me the same whe i tried to install 6.06
[09:36] <mneptok> !nl | mart81
[09:36] <ubotu> mart81: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:36] <arnadelo> but ubuntu 6.10 no problem
[09:36] <cntb> server installations q. , anyone here installed Open Xchange Server on edgy or dapper ?
[09:36] <Lam_al_Adie> Keitaru: you might also want to consider a bad drive ... happens to me just at this moment.
[09:37] <mart81> mneptok: sorry, by touchpad on my xps laptop has this weird behaviour when i go over it sometimes, it was not intended.
[09:38] <mneptok> mart81: keine probleme
[09:38] <Lam_al_Adie> mart81: your touchpad automatically translates englis to dutch? I'm impressed :-]
[09:39] <billybob> duetch
[09:39] <mart81> :) no it comes from the clipboard, but i sure don't know how...
[09:39] <mneptok> Lam_al_Adie: it's the Operation Market Garden touchpad
[09:39] <cntb> server installations q. , anyone here installed Open Xchange Server on edgy or dapper ?
[09:39] <ruben> me cago en to
[09:39] <ruben> los que este abando
[09:39] <billybob> mart81: you've been haxxored !!!
[09:39] <billybob> :P
[09:39] <mneptok> !es | ruben
[09:39] <ubotu> ruben: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:41] <billybob> unop: it must be giving you fits too eh ?
[09:42] <Mutantx> Can someone help me on how or what command that I can use to set iptables ACCEPT everything on eth0
[09:42] <unop> billybob,  i just remembered whey i dont use rsync -- it's impossible :|
[09:42] <Flannel> Mutantx: the firewall blocks nothing by default
[09:42] <mneptok> unop: huh?
[09:43] <chable> Mutantx flush them
[09:43] <billybob> mneptok: try using it to backup a single file type
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> Okay then. I've been googling this for hours and ive came to a conclusion: ET uses OSS. OSS can only have one program playin stuff at the same time. So basically unless I get a working audio wrapper for ET i cant have xmms and ET running at the same time
[09:43] <billybob> ie *.jpg
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> So.
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> I need a bit of help here
[09:43] <dooglus> billybob: how's this?
[09:43] <dooglus> billybob: cd /image/dir && find dir1 -name '*.jpg' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf)
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> I need both ET and XMMS working at the same time
[09:43] <billybob> that wont work . . .
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> sharing the audio device
[09:43] <atomiku-linux> how can i do this?
[09:44] <dooglus> billybob: why not?
[09:44] <Flannel> atomiku-linux: I'd check the forums.  They have a bunch of threads about games, and I'm sure someone else has shared your plight
[09:44] <billybob> dooglus: we're talking litternally tens of thousands of file, in different directories, and some may have the same name
[09:44] <dooglus> billybob: and?
[09:44] <Mutantx> I'm using firestarter and I have 3 net cards and it's blocking everything on the 3rd card and I'm trying to let everything on go through
[09:44] <dooglus> billybob: tar preserves the directory structure
[09:44] <billybob> and i need the directory structure for each given file to remain intact
[09:45] <billybob> and, i dont want them archived
[09:45] <Flannel> Mutantx: the firewall blocks nothing.  You need something to listen/open a port though.
[09:45] <dooglus> what do you mean by 'archived'?
[09:45] <billybob> dooglus: as in put into a tar, or some other archive type
[09:45] <dooglus> billybob: read it again - it does what you want:    cd /image/dir && find . -name '*.jpg' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf)
[09:46] <dooglus> it copies all the jpg files from /image/dir into /backup, keeping the dir structure
[09:46] <agliv5> thoreauputic, so stick to Xubunt + compile packages?  Would there be any reason to compile the linux kernel or is it alread optimal?
[09:46] <billybob> dooglus: ill give it a go
[09:46] <billybob> seems too good to work though
[09:47] <dooglus> billybob: do you have any called '.jpeg' or '.JPG' or other such endings?
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agliv5: unless you are quite experienced, compiling a kernel is kind of pointless
[09:47] <billybob> jpg
[09:47] <thoreauputic> agliv5: and Ubuntu kernels are patched to work well on Ubuntu
[09:47] <Mutantx> Flannel: It's firestarter that's blocking everything on eth3 and I don't want it to
[09:47] <billybob> dooglusL i may halso have some png etc also, but thats not an issue
[09:47] <dooglus> billybob: better, so it only works on files:    cd /image/dir && find . -type f -name '*.jpg' -o -name '*.png' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf)
[09:48] <dooglus> you can string different types together with '-o' (for 'or')
[09:48] <thoreauputic> agliv5: the only time I compile *anything* is if it isn;t in the repositories
[09:48] <Yodude> unop: lol guess what?
[09:48] <mneptok> billybob: why don't you just use include/exclude paraweters/files for rsync?
[09:48] <Yodude> unop: it still gives me the same error
[09:48] <funkyzire> what device is my keyboard ?
[09:48] <dooglus> another good reason to compile things is when there's a bug in the repository version.  it's very hard to get bugs fixed in the ubuntu repositories
[09:49] <atomiku-linux> back
[09:49] <atomiku-linux> Flannel: ive been searching for ages
[09:49] <Flannel> dooglus: no it's not.  Why do you think we have updates?
[09:49] <funkyzire> i mean: a joystick would be /dev/js0
[09:49] <atomiku-linux> thought id ask here so i can get some live support
[09:49] <billybob> tar: Old option `f' requires an argument.
[09:49] <funkyzire> what should i put in there if i use a keyboard ?
[09:49] <dooglus> Flannel: I think updates are mostly for security patches aren't they?  not for functionality.
[09:49] <billybob> dooglus: why do i even need 'f' ?
[09:50] <billybob> tar: Old option `f' requires an argument.
[09:50] <dooglus> billybob: sorry...
[09:50] <dooglus> billybob: better, so it only works on files:    cd /image/dir && find . -type f -name '*.jpg' -o -name '*.png' | tar cTf - - | (cd /backup && tar xf -)
[09:50] <atomiku-linux> How can I have ET and XMMS both playing sound? (Sharing the audio device) I know I gotta use some audio-wrapper since ET uses OSS and OSS can only have one sound playing at a time
[09:50] <mneptok> billybob: why don't you just use include/exclude paraweters/files for rsync?
[09:50] <billybob> mneptok: becasue includes dont seem to be working
[09:51] <mneptok> billybob: what syntax are you using?
[09:51] <Keitaru> it froze when gpart thing loaded any idea what gpart is?
[09:51] <dooglus> billybob: you don't need the 'f' or the '-':
[09:51] <dooglus> billybob: cd /tmp/dir1 && find . -name '*.jpg' | tar cT - | (cd /tmp/dir2 && tar x)
[09:52] <Keitaru> i am also running disc check defect right now
[09:52] <Flannel> dooglus: bugfixes and security
[09:52] <felixhummel> hi!
[09:52] <dooglus> Flannel: most bugs I report get no activity on them for 6 months or so, followed up with a question "is this still an issue" and then "rejected"
[09:53] <felixhummel> does anyone know how to remap keys in mc (midnight commander)?
[09:53] <Flannel> atomiku-linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=250175&postcount=3  seems to indicate it should work
[09:53] <billybob> dooglus: you just did, in one line, what ive been trying to do for hours with perl, and now rsync . . .
[09:53] <dooglus> billybob: cool
[09:53] <billybob> dooglus: two brownies for you !
[09:53] <dooglus> yum
[09:53] <billybob> thanks very much
[09:54] <dooglus> billybob: I was as surprised as you were that tar doesn't have a --include option
[09:54] <mneptok> but rsync does
[09:54] <unop> billybob,  you can't have gone wrong in perl surely :)  find /target | grep -i "jp.g" | perl -lne 'chomp;$s=$_;s[/target/] [] ;print "mv $s /home/backup/$_"'
[09:54] <dooglus> unop: that wouldn't copy any .jpg files at all
[09:55] <billybob> unop: my perl sucks
[09:55] <dooglus> unop: only .jpeg, .jpig and so on?
[09:55] <mneptok> and --exclude. and --include-from=/path/to/file.
[09:55] <nevron> people can you help me backup some decrypted dvds?
[09:55] <billybob> mneptok: ive been at rsync for hours . . .
[09:55] <unop> dooglus, minor - find /target | grep -i "jp.*g" | perl -lne 'chomp;$s=$_;s[/target/] [] ;print "mv $s /home/backup/$_"'
[09:56] <billybob> mneptok: --include=, and include-from= both seemed to be borked
[09:56] <dooglus> unop: I know.  just amused me that you said "you can't have gone wrong in perl" and then went wrong in perl...
[09:56] <Yodude> hey is there any alternative to the adobe flash player plugin?
[09:56] <Yodude> i can't seem to be able to install that one
[09:56] <mneptok> billybob: what syntax are you using?
[09:56] <unop> dooglus, that wasnt perl's part :)
[09:56] <billybob> mneptok: sec
[09:57] <dooglus> unop: that perl won't work if there are any spaces in filenames either
[09:57] <Flannel> Yodude: not really
[09:57] <Yodude> man i'm always getting an error!
[09:57] <Flannel> Yodude: did you follow the wiki?
[09:57] <Yodude> it's always not installing
[09:57] <unop> dooglus,  actually it's a dry run -- as he'd orginally wanted -- its not even copying anything now
[09:57] <billybob> mneptok: rsync -av --dry-run --include-from=/home/yyrkoon/files /home/movies /home/backup/
[09:58] <Yodude> nearly
[09:58] <billybob> mneptok: and yes, i know thats a dry run . . .
[09:58] <Yodude> give me the link again would u?
[09:58] <Flannel> !flash | Yodude
[09:58] <ubotu> Yodude: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:58] <mneptok> billybob: Yyrkoon?!
[09:58] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:58] <billybob> yyrkoon ;)
[09:58] <billybob> lol
[09:58] <unop> dooglus, but then again, it's small - find /target | grep -i "jp.*g" | perl -lne 'chomp;$s=$_;s[/target/] [] ;print`mv "$s" "/home/backup/$_"`'
[09:58] <Flannel> Yodude: you should probably do flash9, at that.  from backports (just download the deb and install with dpkg -i), don't add backports to your sources.list, that's asksing for trouble)
[09:59] <Yodude> !backports
[09:59] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:59] <mneptok> billybob: the --include-from= expects a text file with thi include directives. not a source dir.
[09:59] <Yodude> flannel: can you give me the link to the backports site?
[09:59] <dooglus> unop: how would you copy the files?  that won't work if there are double quotes in the paths?
[09:59] <billybob> mneptok: that is a text file, no extension, is that my problem ?
[09:59] <Flannel> Yodude: it's right there.
[09:59] <agliv5> thoreauputic, but mplayer / mencoder works better (My personal oppinion) when you compile yourself...
[10:00] <agliv5> thoreauputic, for example...
[10:00] <unop> dooglus,  ahh come on -- first spaces, now quotes .. things you shouldnt be using in filenames anyway
[10:00] <thoreauputic> agliv5: quite possible - I'm not against compiling as such
[10:00] <nevron> can anybdy help me backup dvds?
[10:00] <dooglus> unop: I shouldn't?  why not?
[10:01] <thoreauputic> agliv5: for instance i compiled a more recent version of fluxbox that isn't in the repos
[10:01] <frogzoo> nevron: k3b
[10:01] <dooglus> unop: my point is that it's quite easy to get it wrong in Perl
[10:01] <billybob> mneptok: yeah, anyhow, i dont know whats worse, me using yyrkoon as a username, or the fact i know the name Dyvim T'var, and Theleb K'aarna by memory ;)
[10:01] <doktoreas> hi to all
[10:01] <mneptok> billybob: rsync -a -v -h --progress --dry-run --exclude=. --include=\>jp.g /path/to/source /path/to/target
[10:01] <dooglus> unop: you've also omitted to create the destination directories...
[10:01] <Yodude> in which category does flash player fall? utilities?
[10:01] <pavs_> is possible to sync tomboy over several PC?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> agliv5: and sometimes a package gas problems that can be solved by compiling yourself
[10:02] <billybob> mneptok: ill give that a try
[10:02] <thoreauputic> s/gas/has
[10:02] <doktoreas> i have an hp printer on a win xp box...can i use it for printing from ubuntu?
[10:02] <mneptok> billybob: and Voilodion Ghagnasdiak? ;)
[10:02] <billybob> Elric should be obviousl tho, and arioc ;)
[10:02] <billybob> Arioc*
[10:02] <mneptok> +h
[10:03] <Flannel> Yodude: easiest to go through packages.ubuntu.com: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=flashplugin-nonfree
[10:03] <DLB|Maximus> can someone tell me how i go about changing my default route
[10:03] <billybob> mneptok: viloa !
[10:03] <DLB|Maximus> route shows eth0 instead of wlan0
[10:04] <mneptok> billybob: works?
[10:04] <billybob> yessir, is that regex ?
[10:04] <mneptok> it'tis
[10:04] <frogzoo> DLB|Maximus: sudo route add default dev lan0
[10:04] <billybob> no wonder
[10:05] <mneptok> billybob: exclude=. means "exclude everything. sync nothing."
[10:05] <billybob> mneptok: you know, i thought about that
[10:05] <DLB|Maximus> frogzoo: whats the dev?
[10:05] <mneptok> billybob: include=\>jp.g means "include any file that ends with jp*g"
[10:05] <billybob> mneptok: but everyone was telling me just worry about the includes
[10:05] <DLB|Maximus> oh, device?
[10:06] <billybob> mneptok: so i could replace with pn.g ?
[10:06] <billybob> is.o etc ?
[10:06] <atomiku-linux> eyetoy usb webcam drivers for linux?
[10:07] <atomiku-linux> !eyetoy
[10:07] <Flannel> billybob: png is the file extension, not pnig or anything.  its because jpg could be jpg or jpeg
[10:07] <Lynoure> billybob: everyone was wrong. If you do not have exclude, everything is included (see man rsync for details)
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eyetoy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <mneptok> billybob: or make a text file with "\>jp.g" and "\>png" each on one line and call that text file as the include file
[10:07] <geeksauce> is there an FTP client with a decent gui already installed in edgy?
[10:07] <gortba_> good night
[10:07] <Ademan> any vim users know how to yank text so it goes into your clipboard so you can paste it into other programs?
[10:07] <Flannel> geeksauce: yeah, nautilus.  use places > connect to server
[10:07] <billybob> Lynoure: i would except every other symbol in the man page is unreadable with my locale
[10:07] <mneptok> geeksauce: no. sudo aptitude install gftp
[10:08] <billybob> not literally, but might as well be . . .
[10:08] <Ademan> geeksauce: nautilus lets you manipulate a remote server as if it's local
[10:08] <Lynoure> billybob: oh, but luckily there are plenty of mans online.
[10:08] <billybob> Lynoure: i tried, honestly google was my first recourse man second
[10:08] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, is there any sort of Ubuntu roadmap? I'm keen to know when Tomcat 5.5 will be available.
[10:09] <geeksauce> just need to dl some files from xbins and transfer to my xbox... nothing too fancy needed
[10:09] <Lynoure> billybob: I'm not criticising you. :)
[10:09] <mneptok> billybob: let this be a lesson. those with minds weird enough to read Moorcock can usually learn regex without going completely mad. ;)
[10:09] <christof-kr> hi. i'd like to buy a "new" graphics card. is a card with nvidia 6200 chip well supported with xinerama setup (1x CRT and 1x TFT)?
[10:09] <billybob> Lynoure: google is always > man ;)
[10:09] <Flannel> CrummyGummy: when was it released?
[10:09] <billybob> Lynoure: yes, i understand this has been a very frustrating several hours for me
[10:10] <Flannel> CrummyGummy: er, 5.5 is already available, in edgy.
[10:10] <billybob> im just glad everythign works now, and two ways to do it thanks to mneptok, and dooglus :)
[10:10] <billybob> mneptok, dooglus: thanks very much, again :)
[10:11] <billybob> lol
[10:11] <geeksauce> what does "need to get 0B of archives" mean?
[10:11] <billybob> you evil human wizard you
[10:11] <Lynoure> geeksauce: no need to download anything
[10:11] <mneptok> billybob: you don't know how many people in the Ubuntu community would agree with that sentiment ;)
[10:12] <billybob> lo, black hate ?
[10:12] <geeksauce> lynoure is that what that means?
[10:12] <billybob> lol*
[10:12] <billybob> hat . . .
[10:12] <DLB|Maximus> how do i go about making sure wlan0 is brought up at boot if im not using network manager or something like that?
[10:12] <CrummyGummy> Flannel, Really? I installed it yesterday and didn't see it...
[10:12] <billybob> black hat, man, it must be bedtime
[10:13] <Flannel> CrummyGummy: it's in universe, yeah. 'tomcat5.5'
[10:13] <mneptok> billybob: if i was, that rsync help would have included a request for an account on your machine ;)
[10:13] <CrummyGummy> Ah, must look with eyes open...
[10:13] <CrummyGummy> thanks
[10:13] <Lynoure> geeksauce: that all you need is already downloaded or available locally
[10:13] <billybob> lol
[10:13] <billybob> mneptok: two subnets, and a router to go through :P
[10:14] <geeksauce> lynoure i was downloading gftp... am i to assume that said app and respective dependencies are already in place?
[10:14] <frogzoo> geeksauce: means you already have it in cache
[10:14] <Flannel> geeksauce: if not, you'll be currently downloading the dependencies
[10:14] <Lynoure> geeksauce: that whan the text you quoted means
[10:14] <ruben> hello
[10:15] <Dreamglider> is it easy to setup dual screens ?
[10:15] <Yodude> hey which email client is better? evolution or thunderbird?
[10:15] <geeksauce> frogzoo: not sure how those files are cached but how can i install gftp?
[10:15] <Lynoure> geeksauce: what did the other lines say? If you have removed it and are installing it, they are probably still in on the disk.
[10:15] <Yodude> and can evolution be synced with an iPod?
[10:15] <billybob> mneptok: hmm now for some reason, when i take --dt-run out, it resorts to copying EVERYTHING
[10:16] <atomiku-linux> Damn! Ive installed eyetoy drivers and they work well except when it makes the microphone input high pitched! What shall I do?
[10:16] <billybob> when i take dry-run out*
[10:16] <Dreamglider> at home i like to use two screens, the laptops lcd and a crt. and in school i just use the lcd
[10:17] <geeksauce> !pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:18] <geeksauce> lynoure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5538/
[10:19] <mar1> hello i am boot installing off a live cd and the start bar where it says applications ect is not there i have loaded in to this disk many times and it has been there it just all the sudden disappeard
[10:19] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[10:19] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:19] <billybob> mneptok: something is definately borked
[10:20] <mar1> when i install will the start bar also be gone?
[10:21] <mar1> !startbar
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <mackinac> mar1, right click on the bar and select "add to panel"
[10:21] <mar1> there is no bar
[10:22] <mar1> they are both gone
[10:22] <mackinac> oh, the whole panel...
[10:22] <mar1> yes
[10:22] <geeksauce> is there any way in xchat-gnome to open up a new server tab?  need to connect to a different server without disconnecting from freenode
[10:22] <thoreauputic> mar1: hit alt-F2 and type gnome-panel
[10:22] <mackinac> can you get a terminal?
[10:22] <mar1> no makinack
[10:22] <mackinac> do what thoreauputic said :)
[10:23] <Dreamglider> geeksauce,  Ctrt-T
[10:23] <Ayabara> I'm following the instructions for connecting to my nokia via bluetooth, but I'm not quite there yet. How do I perform bluetooth pairing in ubuntu?
[10:23] <mar1> no5hint opend thoreauputic
[10:23] <mar1> nothing **
[10:23] <geeksauce> dreamglider: not working
[10:23] <Terminus> hello. is `mkfs.ext3 -O dir_index` practical on a 320GB fs?
[10:23] <stef> geeksauce: /newserver
[10:23] <thoreauputic> mar1: OK hit alt-F2 and type gnome-terminal , then in the terminal type killall gnome-panel
[10:24] <Dreamglider> geek you use XCaht 2.6.6 ?
[10:24] <Dreamglider> geeksauce,
[10:24] <Dreamglider> XChat*
[10:24] <thoreauputic> mar1: if that doesn't bring it back, type gnome-panel again in the terminal
[10:24] <norf-ubu> !beryl
[10:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:24] <Lynoure> geeksauce: "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 131 not upgraded." It's not upgrading or installing anything, possibly because some of the packages have been kept back. Try to do apt-get update  and retry
[10:24] <billybob> mneptok: specifcally, when i have al those files in the destination directory already, then i run rsync, it works, but if not, it doesnt owrk
[10:25] <geeksauce> can't get multiple servers in xchat-gnome.  /newserver causes a second instance of the app to run and crashes just about everything i have running
[10:25] <unska_> how can i get .mpg decoder?
[10:26] <cassidy> geeksauce: IRC -> connect
[10:26] <cowbud> unska_: do you want to watch a mpeg video?
[10:26] <mackinac> mar1, did the liveCD session start like that?
[10:26] <unska_> cowbud, yes
[10:26] <Yodude> hey should i get beryl or compiz?
[10:26] <cowbud> unska_: and when you open it with totem it doesn't play?
[10:26] <Yodude> which one is better?
[10:26] <unska_> cowbud, thats right =)
[10:27] <geeksauce> cassidy: yes but that will disconnect me from freenode
[10:27] <cowbud> unska_: does any sound play cuase if I recall a standard mpeg should be playable
[10:27] <unska_> nope but i can play xvid and avis fine because i have ffmpeg or something like that :o
[10:27] <cowbud> unska_: are you sure it is a valid mpeg file if you are able to play xvid you shouldn't have an issue with mpeg..
[10:28] <Yodude> hello? help please?
[10:28] <unska_> ill test with another clip
[10:28] <mackinac> !help
[10:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:28] <cowbud> unska_: is it from a camera? sometimes those don't play nicely..
[10:28] <thoreauputic> Yodude: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[10:29] <unska_> cowbud, ive tested several mpgs and mpegs and none of them work :o
[10:29] <m_o_k> hello
[10:29] <unska_> there should be nothing wrong with the files
[10:29] <ub2> hello what is the terminal in ubuntu?
[10:29] <cowbud> unska_: alright try this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base \
[10:29] <cowbud> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse \
[10:29] <cowbud> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[10:29] <cowbud> grr
[10:30] <thoreauputic> ub2:  gnome-terminal by default ( xterm is also installed )
[10:30] <cowbud> that was supposed to be on one line
[10:30] <unska_> hehe
[10:30] <cowbud> unska_: basically the line at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy under multimedia players
[10:30] <funkyzire> i cant get pcsx to run :/
[10:30] <funkyzire> where should i search for help
[10:30] <funkyzire> i tried google
[10:30] <funkyzire> the problem is i dont get an error
[10:30] <ub2> thanks thoreauputic
[10:30] <funkyzire> just a big black screen
[10:30] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:30] <cowbud> thoreauputic: clever name
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cowbud: opinions vary, but I've used this nick for years now so I won't change it :)
[10:31] <cowbud> thoreauputic: I was serious
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cowbud: :)
[10:32] <cowbud> ;)
[10:32] <ub2> is this in africa?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> ub2: ?
[10:32] <Dreamglider> ub2,  this is in cyber space.
[10:33] <unska_> cowbud, it started working fine :)
[10:33] <ub2> heard ubuntu was from africa so want to know if this server is in africa or if anyone is from africa?
[10:33] <mar1> ok i have my applaction bar now is there a way to run a server to where some one could help me something like vnc?
[10:33] <unska_> is there a way to see .wmv? i only hear it now
[10:33] <Yodude> hey no one is answering e at the #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <Yodude> can someone here help me?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> ub2: you could be on any number of servers in the irc.freenode.net network
[10:33] <christof-kr> hi. i'd like to buy a "new" graphics card. is a card with nvidia 6200 chip well supported with xinerama setup (1x CRT and 1x TFT)?
[10:33] <mackinac> ub2, the login window should show you what freenode server you're on
[10:33] <cowbud> unska_: that site I told you about ;) sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll && rm -r ~/.gstreamer-0.10/
[10:33] <cowbud> should let you see wmv9
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Yodude: questions about "which is better" rarely produce clear answers :)
[10:34] <unska_> why rm gstreamer?
[10:34] <cowbud> unska_: so did it turn out your mpegs are actually wmv? and I am assuming so that it will recreate the available plugins list..
[10:34] <Yodude> thoreauputic: can you suggest one to me? please?
[10:34] <mar1> can i get some help i cannot install it it keeps getting stuck at 22% and then it just freezes
[10:34] <Yodude> i don't know which one to get
[10:34] <Chousuke> the ffmpeg gstreamer plugin should be able to play wmv9 too
[10:34] <Dreamglider> Mark Shuttleworth, the father of ubuntu is a south african if im not wrong
[10:34] <thoreauputic> Yodude: no, because I haven't used either :)
[10:35] <unska_> cowbud, no the mpegs were mpegs and they started working fine but i would also like to have wmvs working
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: you're not wrong :)
[10:35] <Yodude> i'll get beryl
[10:35] <Yodude> lol it seems cooler
[10:35] <mar1> can  some one help me
[10:35] <mackinac> !anyone
[10:35] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:36] <mackinac> !patience | mar1
[10:36] <ubotu> mar1: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:36] <krantix> i need to run ms access 2003 on ubuntu... is there any way around? crossover does not support access... but maybe by copying some dlls from a windows installation :-)
[10:36] <Dreamglider> allso called Mark Ubuntu Shuttleworth :)
[10:36] <cowbud> ohh snap
[10:36] <cowbud> marl you could start by saying what you are trying to achieve..
[10:36] <ub2> does ubuntu mean dog?
[10:37] <cowbud> ub2: im sure google knows
[10:37] <mar1> cowbud i am trying to install ubuntu
[10:37] <cowbud> or ubuntu.com for that matter
[10:37] <Dreamglider> ub2,  no it means humanity to mankind
[10:37] <Dreamglider> or somthing like that
[10:37] <cowbud> marl and what is your issue?
[10:37] <mackinac> mar1, is this the first time you ran the liveCD?
[10:37] <mar1> no its not mackinac
[10:37] <mar1> cow bud it gets stuck at 22 %
[10:38] <cowbud> marl: with no errors?
[10:38] <mackinac> mar1, how much RAM do you have?
[10:38] <mar1> nope no errors it just freezes
[10:38] <Dreamglider> ub2,  Humanity towards others
[10:38] <mar1> 992
[10:38] <mar1> mb
[10:38] <valehru> Hey guys, is there a way I can change the default icon placement in gnome?  Right now it alligns to the right hand side of the screen.  Is there a way I can get it to auto align to the left hand side?
[10:38] <cowbud> marl have you tried with the noacpi option?
[10:39] <mar1> no i have no clue what that is
[10:39] <ub2> yea align under properties you can get it to do top or bottom
[10:40] <ub2> point it at the  panel line
[10:40] <valehru> marl, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and insert noacpi into the boot options
[10:40] <mar1> alright i got an error this time it says no root file
[10:40] <antonisgr> hi guys. I use ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop with widecreen monitor. When i choose the 1280x800 resolution, the screen make some glitches,wrong textures e.t.c Is there any way to fix it?
[10:40] <mar1> **no root file system**
[10:40] <cowbud> valehru: that is probably kinda tough considering it is a live cd..
[10:40] <Madeye> guys, I'm trying to install kde-base but ran into dependency hell! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5539/
[10:40] <valehru> ahh...soz...
[10:41] <cowbud> grr I forget if there is a noacpi option booting to the cd..
[10:41] <cowbud> lets find out..
[10:41] <valehru> cowbud, it shouldnt be needed for the cd.
[10:41] <m_o_k> i'am searching for an app that can find duplicate images.
[10:41] <cowbud> valehru: really
[10:41] <cowbud> and why is that
[10:42] <frogzoo> cowbud: acpi=off
[10:42] <valehru> cowbud, well, I have that problem with my system, but I never needed it for the live CD.
[10:42] <valehru> Each time I update grub that needs to be added
[10:42] <cowbud> well it is good that everyone is helping the wrong person
[10:42] <cowbud> in the meantime I bothered to boot to a cd to find out how to do it for him
[10:43] <krantix> so nobody can help me have access 2003 running on ubuntu :-)
[10:43] <cowbud> marl: next time you boot hit F6 and add noacpid at the end add acpi=off
[10:43] <thoreauputic> krantix: #winehq
[10:43] <ub2> bye thanks for the help
[10:44] <cowbud> marl: hah that was confusing I mean hit F6 before it starts and add acpi=off to the end
[10:44] <mar1> where do i hit f6 ? when it ask's me where you to ask me where i want to boot from
[10:44] <Edulix> hi
[10:44] <cowbud> marl: when you first see the ubuntu boot screen and it says Start or install ubuntu
[10:44] <Edulix> anyone here has a wifi card with AR5005G and working monitor mode?
[10:45] <mar1> alright
[10:45] <jhaig> krantix: If crossover office doesn't support it, then it is unlikely that wine will as cxoffice is just the commercial version of wine.
[10:45] <mar1> brb
[10:45] <cowbud> Edulix: did you install the patched madwifi drivers?
[10:45] <geeksauce> i downloaded ccxstream for linux.  it has a makefile... what do i need to do to run it?
[10:45] <Edulix> cowbud:  I'm about to do that
[10:45] <cowbud> Edulix: well that would be the first step
[10:46] <marcin_ant> hi guys I'm following howto about setting up ubuntu server as firewall/router (on howtoforge) and got one question
[10:46] <krantix> ok thanks!
[10:46] <marcin_ant> do I need to set /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward value to 1 in order to have nat enabled?
[10:46] <Edulix> cowbud: ok =)
[10:46] <jhaig> krantix: I believe that .NET stuff doesn't work well (at all?) in wine.
[10:46] <cowbud> Edulix: it is pretty is to do you shouldn't have too much trouble if you are used to compiling stuff..
[10:47] <jhaig> krantix: (I don't know that Access 2003 is .NET, but I'm guessing that it is)
[10:47] <krantix> jhaig, thanks... will try anyway :-)
[10:47] <Edulix> cowbud: I'm used to
[10:47] <albe84tr> can I ask some stuffs about mozilla and linux... I have just installed it.. and i dont know anybody in this country I live who can help me....
[10:48] <jhaig> krantix: If you really need it you could try setting up a vmserver to run windows.
[10:48] <geeksauce> can anyone help me get this running?  i'm new to the whole needing to compile source files thing :)
[10:48] <Edulix> cowbud: some people recomend using patching it with http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/madwifi-ng-r1886.patch but I think the patch doesn't affect my card ?
[10:48] <jhaig> geeksauce: The usual way is "./configure" followed by "make" and "make install"
[10:48] <david> when upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 on boot after upp grade i get a grey distorted ubuntu screan this is for amd 64 version i386 works fine but i want to run the 64 version
[10:49] <david> oh and it dosent boot
[10:49] <jhaig> geeksauce: "make install" needs to be run as root, unless you want to install it in your home directory.
[10:49] <mackinac> !compile | geeksauce
[10:49] <ubotu> geeksauce: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:49] <cowbud> Edulix: hrmm it is from january of 2007 so i'd say chances are it does but since I don't have that particular card I can unfortunately not confirm or deny that..
[10:49] <cowbud> id say give it a try
[10:50] <krantix> jhaig, i have vmware but it's very slow... (i've only 1GB of ram)
[10:50] <Edulix> cowbud: ok do you have any tutorial to recomend?
[10:50] <albe84tr> the problem is that both with firefox and mozilla when I go to some pages the program closes and thats all... I dont know why
[10:50] <mar2> i did not see that option cowbud
[10:50] <welemski> is it ok to discuss programming here?
[10:50] <geeksauce> jhaig: "./configure command not found"
[10:50] <mar2> gumby is that you off hbh??
[10:50] <cowbud> Edulix: not really http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:GvkMklNN3vEJ:huwico.hu/~litch/wep/ubuntu_wep_hack.pdf+madwifi+monitor+ubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&client=firefox-a might help
[10:50] <jhaig> krantix: Too slow even if all you are running in it is one application?
[10:51] <Lam_al_Adie> hmmmm, `loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0 rw --` says bye-bye with "RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data". I tried with a ramdisk of 16M, but that would not work either.
[10:51] <lagrimo> hi
[10:51] <cowbud> Edulix: http://huwico.hu/~litch/wep/ubuntu_wep_hack.pdf or the actual pdf
[10:51] <lagrimo> whats wrong here? http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/7499/
[10:51] <Lam_al_Adie> will i need a bigger RD or something else?
[10:51] <albe84tr> ah... nobody answer me...
[10:52] <jhaig> geeksauce: That is the usual way of doing it, but obviously not in the case of your application.  Try reading any readme or install files, and also follow mackinac's suggestion.
[10:52] <Edulix> cowbud: ok thanks. I'll be back when wifi starts working again
[10:53] <mar2> cowbud that option was not available??
[10:53] <cowbud> mar2: F6?
[10:53] <jhaig> krantix: I suppose using a different database is out of the question.  :-)
[10:53] <mackinac> mar2, its not an option you can select. at the boot menu screen, hit F6 then add "acpi=off" at the end of the text that pops up
[10:53] <mackinac> then enter
[10:53] <mar2> ok thanks
[10:53] <cowbud> mackinac: thank you ;)
[10:54] <mackinac> np
[10:55] <albe84tr> I wrote my easy problem last time than if somebody want to help me can write later... both firefox and mozilla when i click on continue in the window that speaks about ecrypted information close by it-selfs
[10:55] <albe84tr> no error msgs or anything like that
[10:55] <welemski> i have a question for mozilla firefox i dunno if it is a bug...
[10:56] <albe84tr> super!
[10:56] <albe84tr> welemski it is not my same problem? isnt it?
[10:57] <welemski> nope... but is it appropriate to ask about it here? about certain firefox bug?
[10:57] <krantix> jhaig, i'm trying to migrate to mysql... i've found navicat for creating easily queries...
[10:58] <krantix> is there a better program?
[10:58] <mar1> ok got it acpi=off correct?
[10:58] <cowbud> mar1: yah
[10:58] <mar1> ok now what?
[10:58] <cowbud> krantix: mysql-admin is a possibility maybe..
[10:59] <cowbud> mar1: hit enter and try to install again
[10:59] <mackinac> enter then see how it runs
[10:59] <albe84tr> i asked and no answer then probably... it isnt :-)
[10:59] <mar1> cowbud can i pm you
[10:59] <cowbud> sure
[10:59] <geeksauce> what is a file with a .c extension?
[10:59] <F-nkyMNK> marl: you can pm me to, but yeah, i have not much to say
[11:00] <F-nkyMNK> geeksauce: its a C file (C as in the programming language). So, its basically raw code
[11:00] <jhaig> krantix: I don't know navicat so I cannot comment on that.
[11:01] <jhaig> krantix: If you are going to migrate to MySQL, couldn't you do that in Windows and then replace Windows when you don't need to run Access anymore?
[11:01] <ploom> geeksauce, use "file any-file-name" command, where instead of any-file-name is the .c file you want to identify the content type of any file
[11:01] <mar1> ok cowbud i pmed you
[11:01] <albe84tr> hey anybody can say at least "This is not the topic" or "I have no time" so I try to find some other solution?!?
[11:01] <albe84tr> ...
[11:01] <Lynoure> albe84tr: let me do lastlog on you first
[11:01] <cowbud> mar1: uh you did?
[11:01] <mar1> yes
[11:01] <cowbud> I didn't get it hah
[11:02] <krantix> jhaig, i'll try... who knows :-) anyway.... why do my kde application look quite ugly on gnome? is there a way to have a better look (buttons, texts...)?
[11:02] <albe84tr> ok
[11:02] <Lynoure> albe84tr: you mean your FF occasionally crashes?
[11:02] <Lynoure> laway
[11:02] <mar1> ill try again
[11:02] <albe84tr> no every time...
[11:02] <mar1> did you get that time
[11:02] <mackinac> you can't pm if your nickname isn't registered
[11:03] <geeksauce> i had this working before i reformatted...forgot how though.  there is a shell script included with the archive but i cannot get it to run
[11:03] <cowbud> ahh there ya go so no I didn't
[11:03] <mackinac> create a new channel
[11:03] <albe84tr> ok one sec
[11:03] <cowbud> mar1: join #mar1
[11:04] <ploom> its a matter of taste, but haven't kde apps always looked ugly?
[11:05] <ploom> ...for a gnome freak
[11:05] <darkstar> hi there
[11:05] <tombow> kde == win95 emulator
[11:05] <darkstar> 'morning everybody I need some help if u can
[11:05] <mackinac> lol
[11:06] <Lynoure> tombow: That's just trolling
[11:06] <mackinac> !ask | hi darkstar
[11:06] <ubotu> hi darkstar: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:06] <darkstar> alreight, then...
[11:06] <slippyr4> hi all, is there any way to load a propriatary module into the kernel during install?
[11:07] <darkstar> I have messed up with a recursive permission chang and ended up changing permission to my user to lots of files..
[11:07] <suguru> How can I find all python .deb and mark and install them all without clicking each one?
[11:07] <darkstar> is there a script that can check essential files ownership and revert?
[11:07] <albe84tr> is it ok now....
[11:08] <ploom> krantix, a lot has changed since 2004, but here is one link that might interest you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56630
[11:08] <unop> suguru, why do you want to do that? you'll be installing a lot doing so
[11:08] <rpc> is it possible to run something on cron more often than every single minute? i would like 30s interval
[11:08] <darkstar> just reverted /etc/sudoers but truthfully don't know how many more files have been changed by -R
[11:08] <unop> rpc,  use a script that sleeps for 30 seconds and run it every minute :)
[11:08] <albe84tr> lynoure... are you there ?
[11:08] <rpc> unop well yes that would work ;)
[11:09] <ploom> krantix,  and then there comes http://www.google.ee/search?q=make+kde+applications+look+nice+on+ubuntu
[11:09] <rpc> but does it mean that cron can't run more frequently than 1min?
[11:09] <Lynoure> albe84tr: yes, but you never answered my question on your problem
[11:09] <Lynoure> albe84tr: so I thought you no longer want any help
[11:09] <jhaig> rpc: For something that needs to run that often, it would probably be a better idea than by using cron.
[11:09] <unop> rpc,  afaik no, but most of the time i'm wrong :p
[11:09] <rpc> he he unop
[11:09] <albe84tr> no sorry is that i though that this msg i get it red because it was personal then i registered
[11:09] <suguru> I need all python packages.  How can I get a pk mgr to show all python so I can mark them all automatically and then just let computer pkg mgr dl
[11:09] <rpc> jhaig i read you, it's just better not to call it so often? ok
[11:10] <rpc> unop hm this sleep 30 trick is cool
[11:10] <krantix> ploom, thanks!!!
[11:10] <albe84tr> the problem is that when in every browser
[11:10] <mackinac> darkstar, just wait a while and ask your question (in one line) again if nobody gets to it right away
[11:10] <unop> suguru,  thats not answering the question.. i asked you why you want to do that because i might be able to help you better then
[11:10] <jhaig> rpc: If, for whatever reason, it hangs you could end up with a lot of processors running very quickly.
[11:10] <rpc> jhaig mhm
[11:10] <aarohi> how do i change the theme settings for kde apps?
[11:11] <unop> rpc,  it's a trick that has been around for a long time
[11:11] <albe84tr> the window that asks me if i am sure to send ecrypt information apear
[11:11] <rpc> unop but that might be a bit of insecure as jhaig says
[11:11] <rpc> just wondering
[11:11] <darkstar> mackinac, alright... just like to avoid having to re-install the whole system
[11:11] <rpc> it's a VERY simple script... it only checks if a process is running
[11:11] <albe84tr> then whan i click on continue the program crashes
[11:11] <rpc> so hopefully it won't cause any troubles
[11:12] <ploom> krantix, it would be nice if you could provide some "before" and "after" screenshots maybe ;-)
[11:12] <Lynoure> albe84tr: Anything about in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[11:12] <jhaig> rpc: If the process needs to be checked every 30 seconds, I would suggest that something needs to be done about that instead.
[11:12] <albe84tr> no window appear to indicate any error it just close
[11:12] <unop> rpc,  if a script fails, it fails - it's upto you to do the exception handling off course and ensure that it cleanly exits  .. but the fact that you run it every minute ensures that a new one is run even if the previous one should fail
[11:12] <Lynoure> albe84tr: did you check .xsession-errors at least?
[11:13] <albe84tr> I dont know what it is
[11:13] <Lynoure> albe84tr: in all browsers you say? Which ones have you tried?
[11:13] <albe84tr> firefox
[11:13] <albe84tr> and mozilla
[11:14] <albe84tr> and i can not install opera because some database problem
[11:14] <Lynoure> albe84tr: are you on dapper or edgy?
[11:14] <unop> rpc, jhaig is right tho, if the script fails and hangs about, it's likely all other instances of the script will fail and you dont want too many scripts hanging about -- but you can get your own script to kill it's predecessors if they are hanging about :)
[11:14] <albe84tr> Mozilla/5.0
[11:15] <albe84tr> hard question... i have installed ubuntu 2 days ago...
[11:15] <aarohi> how do i change the theme settings for kde apps?
[11:15] <Lynoure> albe84tr: Do you have ubuntu 6.06 or 6.10?
[11:15] <albe84tr> no 5.10
[11:15] <suguru> I need all python packages because I am a professor who needs to be ready to show whatever any student wants to know.  How can I get kpackage apt or synaptic to just show all python packages ready for marking so I can dl them all?  Synaptic will show them all easy.  But marking each one by hand and waiting for synaptic is a pain.
[11:16] <albe84tr> and I cant download 6.10
[11:16] <Lynoure> albe84tr: then I recommend upgrading, 5.10 is not supported very long anymore (just couple of months)
[11:16] <suguru> I am running edgy.
[11:17] <geeksauce> can someone help me compile some C source?
[11:17] <albe84tr> so help me to make it upgrade because when i try
[11:17] <albe84tr> an error occurs
[11:17] <albe84tr> :
[11:17] <Lynoure> albe84tr: :?
[11:18] <unop> suguru,  i suggest doing this in two parts -- first part -- aptitude search python > py_packages  .. and then edit the py_packages file to exclude/delete the packages you don't need -- second part - sudo aptitude install $(cat py_packages | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[11:18] <albe84tr> i am trying to install to read the error msg properly
[11:20] <albe84tr> cant install ubuntu-desktop, it wasimpossible to install  a required package. Please report it as a bug...
[11:20] <albe84tr> i am trying to install 6.06
[11:21] <rpc> unop you are right, just trying to fix a proper error handling code :)
[11:21] <albe84tr> and  then can not calculate the upgrade
[11:22] <suguru> unop  Thanks I will go try that.
[11:23] <unop> rpc, that's the trickiest, hardest and meanest part of programming/scripting  :)
[11:26] <Edulix> hi
[11:26] <Edulix>  it works very well, included monitor mode
[11:27] <mips> where does the pppoe.conf file live ?
[11:27] <Edulix> lets see if I can crack my own wep key ;)
[11:27] <erUSUL> mips: /etc/ppp/*
[11:28] <mips> erUSUL and if there is no such file there /
[11:28] <geeksauce> ok i figured out that ccxstream has no install for "make install" but how do i get the .c files into useable binaries?
[11:28] <erUSUL> mips: /etc/ppp/options <<< main conf file for pppd
[11:29] <albe84tr> are you there?
[11:29] <geeksauce> anyone?
[11:29] <mips> erUSUL is that the same as pppoe.conf then /
[11:31] <albe84tr> lynoure...
[11:31] <albe84tr> where are you... my hero !!!!!!!
[11:31] <thoreauputic> mips: are you confusing this with the command "pppoeconf "  ?
[11:31] <erUSUL> mips: what do you want to change?
[11:32] <mips> erUSUL I need to add ACNAME= parameter
[11:32] <erUSUL> geeksauce: gcc -o exefile exefile.c <<<
[11:33] <Lynoure> albe84tr: Work took my attention for the bit
[11:33] <welemski> is there an update for mono in ubuntu in the repository?
[11:33] <albe84tr> anybody can help me? mozzilla and firefox too are crashing when I chose ok whan a window asks me if I want to send encryp info....
[11:34] <albe84tr> and i can not upgrade to 6.06
[11:34] <albe84tr> from 5.10
[11:34] <Lynoure> albe84tr: you could of course try to tell the browser never to ask that and see if it happens still.
[11:34] <albe84tr> because to problems that are bugs...
[11:34] <albe84tr> HELP!
[11:35] <unop> mips,  locate ppoe.conf
[11:35] <albe84tr> i did... it happens
[11:35] <unop> mips,  you might need to run updatedb first if you recently installed ppoeconf
[11:35] <thoreauputic> unop: no such file - maybe mips should look at man pppoeconf
[11:36] <NeoCicak> hi.. i've just downloaded some new fonts, hoping that i can use them on my desktop (gnome)... but it turns out that I cant use some of them... can any of u guys tell me what are the criteria for a font to be usable for desktop fonts?
[11:36] <geeksauce> erUSUL:  not working... just throwing mad errors.
[11:36] <thoreauputic> possibly ppposeconf creates such a file ...
[11:36] <thoreauputic> umm pppoeconf
[11:36] <unop> thoreauputic,  it's likely
[11:37] <Pooky> I've got a weird issue, whenever gnome pops up a dialog for any app that needs sudo, the screen gets dim, and then where the dialog box should be, nothing shows up. Any ideas why that might be happening?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> unop: I don't know - I use a router so I haven't needed pppoeconf :)
[11:37] <erUSUL> geeksauce: i'm sure the package has some readme or install file explaining how to build the thing
[11:37] <sitchuk> Please help: how to install the GCC compiler on Ubuntu Dapper? There is no one by default. I have tried "sudo apt-get gcc make", but there is no any libraries and header files after that. Thanks.
[11:38] <Lynoure> albe84tr: And is this how you are upgrading: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14 ?
[11:38] <unop> thoreauputic,  same here but i seem to recall the name from someone else in here who had a problem with it
[11:38] <geeksauce> erUSUL: heh, i wish it did.  the readme contains useless info like how to use the program AFTER it's been compiled.  no install file at all.
[11:38] <unop> sitchuk,  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[11:39] <Pooky> nevermind, I just realized it's only happening in beryl, I'll go ask there.
[11:39] <albe84tr> yes it is...
[11:39] <albe84tr> and then it cant complete it
[11:39] <sitchuk> unop, thank you, I'll try.
[11:40] <unop> !build-essential
[11:40] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:40] <GoingCrazy> i wanted to bring to peoples attension about 3d desktop and issues with laptops
[11:40] <GoingCrazy> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[11:40] <albe84tr> shall I write again the  errors?
[11:41] <GoingCrazy> in case anybody asks about hp laptops and cant get the 3d running ... its the sideport in the bios
[11:41] <Madeye> nyone can help me with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5540/
[11:42] <erUSUL> geeksauce: here http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/download_files.htm they recomend using samba over ccxserver...
[11:42] <VSpike> can I automate a web form that uses POST from a script?
[11:42] <Lynoure> albe84tr: I'll need to go, but the next person will probably want to see the errors and your sources.list in pastebin
[11:43] <albe84tr> pastebin?
[11:43] <unop> Madeye,  what does this command return ? ls -ld /usr/X11R6/share
[11:43] <geeksauce> erUSUL i know, but i prefer a dedicated app to stream video, so only my xbox can see the shared media
[11:43] <albe84tr> who will be the next person?
[11:43] <cowbud> albe84tr: I don't think anyone with the attitude you have
[11:44] <albe84tr> wich attitude i have?
[11:44] <frogzoo> VSpike: perl/python choose your poison
[11:45] <albe84tr> big ?
[11:45] <cowbud> albe84tr: reread some of your messages. So what is your goal to get a browser working or to upgrade to ubuntu 6.06?
[11:45] <praveen> i am using, Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661/741/760/761 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 03) and after running 3ddesk iam getting the following error
[11:45] <VSpike> frogzoo: thanks
[11:45] <Yodude> hey can someone help me with beryl?
[11:45] <unop> Madeye,  you still there?
[11:45] <praveen> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[11:45] <praveen> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[11:45] <praveen> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[11:45] <praveen> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[11:45] <Yodude> when i logged into XGL i got an ugly theme
[11:45] <frogzoo> Madeye: have you tried reinstalling/then remove?
[11:45] <unop> !paste | praveen
[11:45] <ubotu> praveen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:45] <Yodude> and there was not effects
[11:45] <Madeye> unop, yes, I'm back sorry d/c
[11:46] <geeksauce> maybe this will shed some light on things >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5541/
[11:46] <unop> Madeye,  what does this command return ? ls -ld /usr/X11R6/share
[11:46] <praveen> ubotu:ok
[11:46] <frogzoo> Madeye: have you tried reinstalling/then remove?
[11:46] <suguru> I got an error in step 2
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <Madeye> frogzoo, I couldn't install it from the first place, it was all broken so now I'm trying to remove what been installed
[11:46] <Yodude> can someone help me please?
[11:46] <lolman> Yodude: #ubuntu-effects is better for Beryl questions :)
[11:46] <Madeye> unop,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-13 12:36 /usr/X11R6/share
[11:46] <Yodude> but nobody answers me there
[11:46] <suguru> /var/cache/apt/archives# aptitude install $(cat /home/js/56/linux/debPackages/SudoInstallAllThesePackages.sh | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[11:46] <suguru> Reading package lists... Done
[11:46] <suguru> Building dependency tree
[11:46] <suguru> Reading state information... Done
[11:46] <suguru> Initializing package states... Done
[11:46] <unop> suguru,  use a !pastebin and show us some output :)
[11:46] <suguru> Building tag database... Done
[11:46] <suguru> Couldn't find package "install".  However, the following
[11:46] <suguru> packages contain "install" in their name:
[11:46] <suguru>   debian-installer kinstaller zope-cmfquickinstallertool libextutils-autoinstall-perl installation-guide-sparc libmodule-install-perl
[11:46] <suguru>   installation-guide-hppa app-install-data adept-installer libdebian-installer-extra4 mini-dinstall debian-edu-install f-prot-installer
[11:47] <suguru>   rancid-installer libdebian-installer4 installation-guide-i386 scsh-install-lib typo3-site-installer daemontools-installer installation-guide-amd64
[11:47] <albe84tr> both of that... sorry if i was unpolite... but i cant use this chat and I cant use ubuntu at all.. for this reason i am asking...
[11:47] <suguru>   djbdns-installer installation-report libsub-install-perl libdebian-installer4-dev gnome-app-install systeminstaller qmailanalog-installer
[11:47] <unop> suguru,  you're pretty dumb arent ya?
[11:47] <suguru>   checkinstall installwatch libdebian-installer-dev installation-guide-ia64 libsysadm-install-perl app-install-data-commercial
[11:47] <suguru>   installation-guide-powerpc
[11:47] <unop> !ops
[11:47] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[11:47] <suguru> E: Unmatched '('
[11:47] <suguru> E: Badly formed pattern $(cat
[11:47] <suguru> The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
[11:47] <suguru>   python2.5-minimal
[11:47] <faemir_> suguru: FGS use pastebin
[11:47] <Seveas> !paste | suguru
[11:47] <ubotu> suguru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:47] <frogzoo> Madeye: there's no x permission on the directory - very odd
[11:48] <unop> frogzoo,  its not even a directory :p
[11:49] <mitkoz> ola
[11:49] <unop> Madeye,  try this -- sudo sh -c "mv /usr/X11R6/share  /usr/X11R6/share.bak; aptitude install -f"
[11:49] <Madeye> frogzoo, aha! ok , I remove it, created it as dir, then it complained about share/app.link so I created it and it worked!
[11:49] <Madeye> thanks
[11:49] <mitkoz> ola
[11:49] <CrakeHunter> monring! whats the command for ending a "vpnc" - session?
[11:49] <frogzoo> unop: in Madeye's paste, find seems to think it should be a directory
[11:50] <frogzoo> Madeye: choice
[11:50] <erUSUL> geeksauce: a simple "make" build everythimg for me
[11:50] <unop> frogzoo,  indeed, and his /usr/X11R6/share wasnt a directory -- Madeye> unop,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-13 12:36 /usr/X11R6/share
[11:50] <geeksauce> erSUL: that's the command that threw all those errors :)
[11:50] <Lucifel> How would I go about forwarding a single port from my machine to another on the LAN?
[11:51] <frogzoo> Lucifel: google 'iptables + DNAT'
[11:52] <albe84tr> I have to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06
[11:52] <albe84tr> but 2 errors occur:
[11:52] <erUSUL> geeksauce: most likely you lack *-dev packages try installing the basic build-essential and then libc6-dev....
[11:53] <albe84tr> and it is writen they are bugs...
[11:53] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: libc6-dev is a dependency of build-essential
[11:53] <albe84tr> anybody wants to help me? I offer a dinner in istanbul...
[11:54] <bauer77> albe84tr: Do you pay for the flight to?
[11:54] <erUSUL> thoreauputic: good to know, i stand corrected ;)
[11:55] <thoreauputic> erUSUL: :) apt-cache depends build-essential
[11:55] <haec> hello, does anyone know why I get a burst pipe error when I try to install the ati fglrx pack?  I have to write my final-work in one month and I can not use this ubuntu... nobody uses linux in this country!!!!!!!
[12:00] <BrendanM> abe84tr, what seems to be the trouble?
[12:00] <BrendanM> Also, does anyone know if there's a piece of free software that'll let you fill out PDF forms? Or do I have to get the official Adobe reader?
[12:00] <albe84tr> I can not upgrade to 6.10
[12:00] <BrendanM> Do you need 6.10 to write your final?
[12:01] <albe84tr> no but so manythings are not working
[12:01] <mattfletcher> is there any way to quickly restore the default gnome panels? i've played with mine that much i want to start again
[12:01] <geeksauce> erSUL: ok, installed necessary packages and made a little improvement.  here is what i get now with 'make' >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5542/
[12:02] <albe84tr> like mozilla or firefox crashes when i click ok on continue in the window that asks me if I wanna send ecrypt msg
[12:02] <BrendanM> albe84tr, why don't you figure out what the minimum you need to have working in order to finish your schoolwork, and then concentrate on just doing that. If you're having trouble upgrading to 6.10, you might be able to just reinstall from a 6.10 CD
[12:02] <BrendanM> that could save you time
[12:02] <unop> geeksauce,  what package is this in relation to?
[12:02] <BrendanM> albe84tr, what're some of the things that aren't working on 6.06?
[12:02] <albe84tr> I have 5.10
[12:02] <geeksauce> unop: it isn't in relation to any package
[12:03] <unop> geeksauce,  so, it's random code? :)
[12:03] <geeksauce> unop: haha, no... sourcecode (c) that i can't seem to compile
[12:03] <albe84tr> like mozilla or firefox crashes when i click ok on continue in the window that asks me if I wanna send ecrypt msg
[12:04] <BrendanM> So...no suggestions for PDF software that can handle fill-in forms?
[12:04] <unop> geeksauce,  bahh, ok then, whats the name of the source-package  you are trying to install? :p
[12:05] <geeksauce> unop: ccxstream
[12:06] <BrendanM> albe84tr, I can read your PM, can you read mine?
[12:06] <mattfletcher> is there any way to quickly restore the default gnome panels? i've played with mine that much i want to start again
[12:06] <BrendanM> albe84tr, which version of firefox are you running? I've heard 1.5 is kind of glitchy. You might try upgrading to 2.0
[12:07] <unop> geeksauce,  i'd try this -- sudo aptitude install gnulib
[12:07] <BrendanM> albe84tr, also, if you just need a working web browser ASAP, try installing Opera, and worry about fixing FF later.
[12:07] <albe84tr> ok but I can not
[12:08] <BrendanM> albe84tr, why not? Is your internet connection no good?
[12:08] <albe84tr> brendan; bacause i tryed in the menu you can chose the aplications and
[12:09] <BrendanM> albe84tr, I wouldn't use the "add programs" thing, do you know how to open the synaptic package manager?
[12:09] <albe84tr> brendan; bacause i tryed in the menu you can chose the aplications
[12:09] <albe84tr> brendan. no
[12:10] <geeksauce> unop: installed that... same errors as last time
[12:10] <Cin> hey, when I press print screen, is there a way I can make it be taken by GIMP instead of the default?
[12:11] <albe84tr> brendan.. ok found
[12:11] <erUSUL> geeksauce: you need libreadline-dev
[12:11] <BrendanM> albe84tr, here is a direct link to download opera: http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux
[12:12] <unop> geeksauce,  hmm, do you have an INSTALL or README file in the source directory? check them and make sure you satisfy the prequisites too
[12:12] <BrendanM> if firefox won't work well enough to download it, we can go at it anther way, but try that
[12:12] <erUSUL> geeksauce: please use tab completion of my nick i almost missed the last msg
[12:13] <Dimensions> How can i add something in Sessions via terminal without accessing it via System Preferences Sessions ??
[12:13] <geeksauce> erSUL:  tab completion?
[12:13] <geeksauce> erUSUL*
[12:14] <lolman> geeksauce: you can type part of someone's nick, then hit tab and the IRC client will complete it for you
[12:14] <erUSUL> geeksauce: well most irc clients can complete the nicks hitting <tab> as bash do with commands and filenames
[12:14] <just-this-time> \o is rssh chroot jailed by default ? where can I read how to use rssh ?
[12:15] <erUSUL> geeksauce:  i only type ge<tab> and your nick is completed for me... ;)
[12:15] <albe84tr> brendan but other small things are not working... so somebody told me to upgrade it because 5.10 it is not good any more
[12:16] <BrendanM> albe84tr, oh, you're on 5.10? Then yes, I would suggest upgrading. I thought you were on 6.06 LTS
[12:17] <BrendanM> albe84tr, have you tried upgrading to 6.06 instead of going all the way to 6.10? I've heard that can work better.
[12:17] <albe84tr> Could not open "opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb"
[12:17] <albe84tr> Archive type not supported
[12:17] <[H4z3] > Hey guys im having a problem with jdk... Im running dr java... and it says it cant find tools.java
[12:17] <just-this-time> albe84tr: backup home dir and etc to other disk / partition / computer
[12:18] <just-this-time> !java
[12:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:18] <Dimensions> Hiya ..... To run a script when we login to system we add it to /usr/bin and add its name into System Preferences --> Sessions --> and add it to Startup Programmes ... how can i do the same via terminal ??
[12:18] <[H4z3] > thanks ill have a look
[12:18] <albe84tr> brendanM couldnt install opera
[12:18] <BrendanM> albe84tr, yeah, can you just back up your home directory and then do a clean reinstall from a 6.10 install disc? Honestly, that will probably be the simplest. That will also get you firefox 2.0 which should work better.
[12:18] <assasukasse> i have a problem, sudo mc and in general terminal window is extremely slow, what can i do?
[12:18] <unop> Dimensions,  you mean add a startup script for bash?
[12:19] <[H4z3] > I have done what that says.. And it says it installed fine.. yet i still get the error
[12:19] <unop> assasukasse,  why the need to sudo?
[12:19] <assasukasse> unop sometime i use mc for modification on /etc so is convenience to use sudo mc
[12:19] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you can also enter "sudo aptitude install opera" at a terminal to install opera. Anyone know if he needs multiverse enabled?
[12:19] <just-this-time> assasukasse: also if in X (GUI) try krusader
[12:19] <geeksauce> erUSUL: thanks :)  works fine now
[12:20] <Dimensions> unop i donno but currently when i want to run a script or programme automatically on system startup i add it to System Preferences Sessions .... how can i add it via terminal instead ?
[12:20] <erUSUL> geeksauce: no problem ;)
[12:20] <assasukasse> just-this-time but i would have to install the whole kde libs no?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> BrendanM: opera is in the commercial repo - whether it is available for anything but 6.06 I don't know
[12:20] <aimtrainer> hi! does anyone now how I can edit a symlink? I just wana open it with a texteditor, but it always opens the file it points to
[12:21] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: you can not "edit a symlink"
[12:21] <BrendanM> would it be easier for albe84tr to get firefox 2.0? has that been backported to 5.10?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> aimtrainer: you don't edit symlinks - you replace or remove them
[12:21] <assasukasse> exactly gnome terminal is slow in starting and in executing commands
[12:21] <unop> thoreauputic,  i believe you can install the opera available in the commercial repo on any version of ubuntu (dapper and upwards)
[12:21] <aimtrainer> thoreauputic, yea the problem is that creating the symlink I want doesnt work
[12:21] <mitkoz> ola nhvdfgjh
[12:21] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[12:21] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[12:22] <aimtrainer> .. havent tried it in the shell yet
[12:22] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: symlinks in unix are very different of direct access of windows... only vista (at least) will support proper symlinks
[12:22] <BrendanM> how would he enable the commercial repos from the CLI? I've always done it through synaptic.
[12:22] <mitkoz> jijjoj
[12:22] <mitkoz> hhhhh
[12:22] <unop> assasukasse,  does the same behaviour exhibit itself in another terminal -- something like xterm or rxvt ?
[12:22] <assasukasse> unop i don't have them installed
[12:23] <unop> assasukasse,  i think xterm is installed by default (not entirely sure)
[12:23] <assasukasse> but i notice that it speeds up alot if i delete .metacity and .nautilus for a few bootup, then became slow again..unop
[12:23] <aimtrainer> what'S the command to create a symlink in the konsole?
[12:23] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: man ln
[12:24] <unop> Dimensions,  what you could do is add an oddly named script named foobarbazquuz, add it up to the startup list via the GUI and then try and locate the same name from the terminal
[12:24] <unop> assasukasse,  you using gnome-terminal right?
[12:24] <assasukasse> unop do u have idea how to use windows icons on wine? i mean taking them out from exe? my wine uses always the same icon for every exe
[12:24] <Lucifel> frogzoo I think that was on the right track, but I didn't seem to get the results I was looking for
[12:24] <assasukasse> unop yes gnome-terminal
[12:24] <albe84tr> brendan if you tell me how to upgrade on line wouldnt be better?
[12:24] <aimtrainer> thanks erUSUL
[12:24] <erUSUL> aimtrainer: no problem
[12:25] <erUSUL> ubotu tell albe84tr about upgrade | albe84tr see priv msg from ubotu
[12:25] <Lucifel> I'm trying to tunnel a MS Remote Desktop connection to access a machine on the same LAN as an ssh server
[12:25] <unop> assasukasse,  there's probably a way to extract the icons from the exe's resource table .. but i'm not sure how that'd work on linux
[12:25] <Lucifel> I got this far http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5545/
[12:26] <unop> assasukasse,  i dont like gnome-terminal -- it's extremely heavy for a terminal -- you should really try another term (atleast to rule gnome-terminal out)
[12:26] <assasukasse> unop sorry i found it already http://www.winehq.com/pipermail/wine-users/2005-September/018892.html
[12:26] <assasukasse> unop i was used for rvxt, but i would try something with more features..
[12:26] <Lucifel> the -p 5822 being a port forwarded to the ssh server
[12:26] <assasukasse> unop how can i change the default terminial?
[12:27] <suguru> unop, I pasted into pastin.something and ubuntu-pastin.nl now I am stuck in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5547/  what should I do next?
[12:27] <Enselic`> Is the magnetic field from a subwoofer strong enough to threaten my harddrive?
[12:27] <unop> assasukasse,  i didnt know there could be one :) usually i just have a keyboard-shortcut as i dont tend to use icons and menus
[12:27] <Goldenphoenix> Enselic, not the magnetic field, but the Bass :-)
[12:28] <Enselic`> Goldenphoenix: :D      I'm not actually placing it immediately on top of it
[12:28] <Enselic`> it's on its of shelf
[12:28] <Enselic`> put very close
[12:28] <Enselic`> but*
[12:28] <Dimensions> unop:  what i can do is that add script in /usr/bin and add its name in startup list via GUI in sessions .... but my question :- can i do the same without opening GUI my goal is to write some script to add it to there
[12:29] <Lucifel> How do I forward a MS Remote Desktop port from an ssh server to the destination doze machine on same LAN?
[12:29] <mitkoz> helol
[12:30] <Goldenphoenix> Enselic, normally the magnetic field is not strong enough to influence your harddrive
[12:30] <pihus> Hi ya'll. Anyone knows why multiple apps cannot play a sound at the same time (e.g. aMSN & bmp)?
[12:30] <BrendanM> albe84tr, instructions for upgrading from 5.10 can be found here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[12:30] <mitkoz> hello
[12:30] <Enselic`> Goldenphoenix: is that guess or a fact?
[12:30] <Enselic`> Goldenphoenix: I dont want to appear as paranoid, but my hd is precious to me
[12:31] <Goldenphoenix> pihus, do you know about esd ?
[12:31] <unop> suguru,  if the first command is -- aptitude search python > installallthesepackages.sh; then change the second one to this -- sudo aptitude install `cat installallthesepackages.sh | cut -c 3-30 | xargs`
[12:31] <Lucifel> Enselic` my sub came with a disclaimer saying not to use within 2 feet of electronic devices
[12:31] <albe84tr> brendan thanks a lot... if you come to ist let me know
[12:31] <Cin> d'oh
[12:31] <F-nkyMNK> bye all
[12:31] <Cin> er..
[12:31] <albe84tr> istanbul
[12:31] <pihus> jeap i know, but since switching bmp to esd, it doesen't play a thing anymore
[12:32] <Enselic`> Cin: any mysterious hd happenings yet?
[12:32] <mitkoz> yamame606678100
[12:32] <Lucifel> Enselic` so I'm not sure I'd take the chance if you have the option
[12:32] <unop> Dimensions,  you can add commands to the ~/.xinitrc -- so that they are executed everytime you start X
[12:32] <assasukasse> unop i changed the menu with xterm, however i dunno if gnome-terminal is the default one..
[12:32] <Yodude> hey i need to remove a file i added to /
[12:32] <Yodude> how do i remove it?
[12:32] <BrendanM> No problem albe84tr. It looks like you can't upgrade directly to 6.10. So you'll want to follow that guide to upgrade to 6.06. That should probably be good enough to get your work done. 6.10 isn't that big of an improvement.
[12:33] <Cin> Enselic`, er, both of them are dead. I'm using my laptop
[12:33] <okay> hi
[12:33] <Cin> Enselic`, possibly related. but both are bout five years old anyway
[12:33] <ahave> ubuntu doesnt seem to play application sounds yet it will play login/logout sounds
[12:33] <Goldenphoenix> Enselic`: the hd is build with metal around, that's shield the magnetic field
[12:33] <ahave> how can i correct this?
[12:33] <mitkoz> ay algen q able espanol
[12:33] <okay> lorsque je ping avec l'option -f j'ai un E comme rsultat, je n'arrive pas trouver la signification! qq1 peut-il m'aider
[12:33] <mok> Yodude: sudo rm * ?
[12:33] <unop> !fs | okay
[12:33] <okay> oups sorry
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <unop> !fr | okay
[12:33] <ubotu> okay: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:34] <pihus> How to get bmp working with esd?
[12:34] <unop> !es | mitkoz
[12:34] <ubotu> mitkoz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:34] <okay> when i ping with -f option, i have E as result! somebody know why plz?
[12:34] <mitkoz> olaaaaaaaaaa
[12:34] <Yodude> mok: it says rm: cannot remove `/etc/X11/Sessions/Xgl-beryl': No such file or directory
[12:35] <finn> !nvidia
[12:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:35] <Cin> anyone know of a program that can record your screen?
[12:35] <Cin> to video format
[12:35] <CheshireViking> Goldenphoenix, just saw your thread, I had a subwoofer sat on top of my desktop case for 7 years, never had any problems with the hard drive, but the subwoofer broke a couple of months ago
[12:35] <Cin> say, if I want to create guides or whatever
[12:35] <mitkoz> unop olaaaaaaaa
[12:35] <albe84tr> brendan...
[12:36] <unop> okay,  can you use a !pastebin and show us some of what you see there
[12:36] <albe84tr> edit:12428): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:36] <albe84tr> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:36] <Lucifel> I'm looking to connect MS Remote Desktop through an ssh tunnel to a box on the same LAN. How would I accomplish this? I've gotten this so far: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5545/ but the iptables entry doesn't seem to work
[12:36] <mok> yodude: then the file isnt there i think..
[12:36] <albe84tr> i can not upgrade...
[12:36] <albe84tr> :-(((
[12:36] <Goldenphoenix> ChechireViking: lol
[12:36] <unop> albe84tr,  did you try and sudo something just now?
[12:36] <erUSUL> !es | mitkoz
[12:36] <ubotu> mitkoz: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:37] <bulishko> laudis klau, ka es varu restratet savu apach nerestartejot PC?
[12:37] <bulishko> :)
[12:37] <unop> Lucifel,  does the windows machine you want to "remote desktop" to have an SSH server installed?
[12:37] <just-this-time> assasukasse: I see you on GNOME
[12:38] <albe84tr> unop yes...
[12:38] <mitkoz> erusur q m quieres decir
[12:38] <Lucifel> unop no I was hoping to forward the port from a box on the same LAN that does
[12:38] <bulishko> ups, sorry, not for this chanel :)
[12:38] <erUSUL> mitkoz: lee el mensaje de ubotu
[12:38] <unop> albe84tr,  you really have ought to use gksudo there instead and then you wont see those messages
[12:38] <just-this-time> unop how do I install SSH on windows machine?
[12:39] <TMH_> crap! I've just locked myself out of my system with some careless usermodding. How can I solve this problem?
[12:39] <albe84tr> unop i can not upgrade in any other way
[12:39] <mitkoz> n l e podido ler q dice
[12:39] <Lucifel> ssh on Windows sux so I was hoping to use the Ubuntu box I tunnel into to forward traffic along to the remote desktop destination machine
[12:39] <TMH_> actually never mind i think i know the solution
[12:39] <unop> Lucifel,  ok, well, i trust you know what you are doing there -- but anyway, since you are tunneling port 3389-in-ssh .. you need to configure IPtables for the SSH port .. port 5822 here i believe
[12:40] <erUSUL> !es > mitkoz
[12:40] <Lucifel> Well 5822 is forwarded to 22 on the tunnel machine
[12:40] <albe84tr> unop i can not upgrade in any other way... help me please
[12:40] <unop> albe84tr,  you trying to upgrade what exactly?
[12:40] <Lucifel> That part I got to work, and I tested it creating something similar to tunnel VNC directly to the Ubuntu machine
[12:40] <albe84tr> ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 or 6.10
[12:41] <mitkoz> erusur eres xiko o xika no me entr d nada
[12:42] <erUSUL> mitkoz: este canal es en ingles si quieres ayuda en espaol con ubuntu entra en #ubuntu-es ( /join #ubuntu-es )
[12:44] <albe84tr> unop... I am trying to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to ubuntu 6.10/6.06
[12:44] <erUSUL> albe84tr: what comand is failing ?? gksudo "update-manager" ??
[12:45] <pihus> !!bmp
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <pihus> !esd
[12:45] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[12:45] <albe84tr> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:45] <albe84tr> (gedit:12546): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:45] <albe84tr> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:45] <Lucifel> unop if I change those 3389 ports on the local line to 5900 I can VNC into the Ubuntu ssh target machine as expected
[12:45] <pihus> grr
[12:46] <unop> Lucifel,  errm, i'm not sure if 3389:localhost:3389 is the right spec here .. please verify that, somehow i dont see that transporting RDP traffic to <IP_ADDRESS>:3389 .. also, are you just trying to open a port in the firewall to allow RDP traffic outwards ?
[12:46] <albe84tr> erusul
[12:46] <Lucifel> unop I think now I just need to figure what to feed iptables to get this machine to forward to the remote desktop
[12:46] <albe84tr> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:47] <BrendanM> albe84tr, that sounds like it's a permissions error. Are you using sudo or gksudo
[12:47] <erUSUL> albe84tr: whay are you trying the hard way instead of using the update manager??
[12:47] <erUSUL> why*
[12:47] <unop> albe84tr,  ok, now change sources.list to this http://pastebin.ca/348620
[12:47] <BrendanM> erUSUL, he's on 5.10, isn't the update manager only for 6.06->6.10
[12:48] <unop> albe84tr,  once done, save the file and run this command - sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:48] <erUSUL> BrendanM: according to the oficial docs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades no it isn't
[12:48] <mackinac> doesn't the edgy alt install cd have option to install from hdd image?
[12:49] <albe84tr> there is but it is not working from there
[12:49] <stinger_au> yo
[12:49] <albe84tr> 2 errors occured
[12:49] <albe84tr> and both of that are bug...
[12:49] <mackinac> (that dapper had)
[12:49] <demodog> can anyone tell me syntax for sending message with smbclient to other user?
[12:50] <unop> Lucifel,  there also appears to be slight syntax errors with the iptables command -- sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --to <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 3389 -j DNAT  (i think, not verified)
[12:50] <unop> !linpopup
[12:50] <ubotu> linpopup: X Window System port of Winpopup, running over Samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-8 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 332 kB
[12:50] <unop> demodog,  ^^
[12:50] <Lucifel> unop yeah the iptables entry is where I'm stumped
[12:51] <unop> Lucifel,  do you have iptables already configured?
[12:51] <Lucifel> unop 5900:localhost:5900 gives me a working tunnel for VNC
[12:51] <jean-b> hi
[12:51] <jean-b> i wish to install beryl on kubuntu edgy
[12:51] <stinger_au> anyone here in Australia ? got a good sources file i can rip ?
[12:51] <unop> Lucifel,  i think you might be best off with using !firestarter as the front end to iptables, it'll make your life easier
[12:51] <mackinac> !beryl | jean-b
[12:51] <ubotu> jean-b: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:51] <jean-b> stinger_au: i am in aus
[12:52] <faemir_> jean-b: you have to love ubotu ;)
[12:52] <stinger_au> jean-b, good a good sources list ?
[12:52] <jean-b> thanx mackinac
[12:52] <pihus> argh, bmp isn't avalible via apt-get?
[12:52] <albe84tr> unop how to list there
[12:52] <jean-b> what do you mean by good sources list?
[12:52] <BrendanM> hmm, good call erUSUL. I just installed from a CD so I've never done any of this upgrading stuff.
[12:52] <unop> http://pastebin.ca/348620  jean-b
[12:52] <unop> albe84tr,  to list what?
[12:53] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you should try the update manager instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  it looks to be a one-shot deal
[12:53] <stinger_au> well a complete list - update to date
[12:53] <stinger_au> i just did a fresh install
[12:53] <unop> Lucifel,  but 5900:localhost:5900 means that the client launches a tunnel, connecting it's port 5900 to the server's 5900 .. there's a different flag and combination to use for remote forwarding
[12:53] <tsai> hello all, has anyone tried using beryl on ubuntu edgy?
[12:53] <erUSUL> !source-o-matic
[12:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <stinger_au> arr ok cool
[12:54] <Lucifel> unop that may be the issue as the iptables entry doesn't look as wrong as I first thought
[12:54] <albe84tr> brendan it is not working...  it says I need to dowload PSM to see this page
[12:54] <Lucifel> I just used my VNC tunnel as a reference for setting this up and hoped for the best
[12:54] <unop> Lucifel,  install and use !firestarter its a neat GUI that'll make IPTables really easy
[12:55] <tsai> hello
[12:55] <Lucifel> unop ahh I'll look into that, thank you
[12:55] <BrendanM> what's PSM?
[12:55] <unop> Lucifel,  but you mentioned that the VNC server was on the same machine as the SSH server you connected to right? if thats the case, then you dont want the same SSH command line
[12:55] <vanlinx> hi
[12:55] <albe84tr> unop i dont know what to do in the page you linked me:  http://pastebin.ca/348620
[12:55] <tsai> hi vanlinx have you tried beryl?
[12:56] <vanlinx> nah, im running hoary, i dont know ifs possible
[12:56] <Lucifel> unop yeah that sounds like what I've got wrong
[12:56] <tsai> what's hoary?
[12:56] <vanlinx> ubuntu 5.04
[12:56] <unop> albe84tr,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  -- paste the contents of http://pastebin.ca/348620 into it, save the file, and run this command ..
[12:56] <vanlinx> cause i got this ATI 340 IGP, impossible to set up with EDGY
[12:56] <unop> albe84tr,  sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:57] <tsai> i see, i have tried beryl and everytime it breaks my system on edgy no prob with dapper though
[12:57] <mackinac> tsai, if you need help with beryl, try #ubuntu-effects
[12:57] <tsai> really
[12:57] <mackinac> !beryl
[12:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:57] <vanlinx> oi, does dapper pick up ATI cards immediately?
[12:57] <BrendanM> if you can't open that website, I copied the instructions here: http://pastebin.ca/353492
[12:57] <BrendanM> ^ for albe84tr
[12:58] <tsai> does ubuntu effects do the same as beryl
[12:58] <mackinac> its a help channel like this one
[12:58] <vanlinx> 3ddesktop is like a watered down version, not as pretty >__<
[12:58] <mackinac>  ... /join #ubuntu-effects
[12:58] <erUSUL> tsai: it is only the name of the channel...
[12:59] <Lucifel> unop how would I correct the ssh line to accomodate?
[12:59] <tsai> oh my bad i will go there thanks erUSUL
[12:59] <jarhead756> i am trying to compile sound converter .9.3 from source, but it won't get past ./configure, this pops up checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for gawk... no
[12:59] <mackinac> youre welcom
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for mawk... mawk
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for style of include used by make... none
[12:59] <albe84tr> unop it says that it is not posible to save it
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for gcc... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for cc... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> checking for cl.exe... no
[12:59] <jarhead756> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:59] <jarhead756> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:59] <erUSUL> jarhead756: stop it, do not paste here...
[01:00] <agreif> which package do I have to install to have the full java 1.4 SDK?
[01:00] <mackinac> !pastebin | jarhead756
[01:00] <ubotu> jarhead756: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:00] <unop> !paste | jarhead756
[01:00] <erUSUL> !pastebin > jarhead756
[01:00] <agreif> which package do I have to install to have the full java 1.4 SDK?
[01:00] <unop> Lucifel,  i have a feeling you need this -- ssh -f -L 3389:<IP_ADDRESS>:3389 user@ssh_server
[01:00] <jarhead756> oh, ok, but does anyone know what i am talking about?
[01:00] <erUSUL> jarhead756: sound-converter is on the repos
[01:00] <unop> Lucifel,  can the ubuntu server use the windows machine's remote desktop at the moment (without ssh)??
[01:00] <erUSUL> jarhead756: why bother compiling it?
[01:01] <jarhead756> yes, but not the newest version is it? i need the newest, the one that uses gstreamer 1 instead of .8
[01:01] <albe84tr> unop it says that it is not posible to save it
[01:01] <unop> !build-essential | jarhead756 , you need a C compiler :)
[01:01] <ubotu> jarhead756 , you need a C compiler :): Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:01] <unop> albe84tr,  did you use gksudo to launch gedit???
[01:01] <Lucifel> unop I haven't tested from the Ubuntu machine specifically but remote desktop to the intended target works from Mac OS X on local LAN
[01:02] <unop> Lucifel,  why not try ssh forwarding now without IPTables running?
[01:03] <mamzers555> i get this error with wine: wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\--winver.exe"
[01:03] <mamzers555> can somebody help me with this
[01:03] <mamzers555> i installed it from the repos
[01:03] <albe84tr> I used the terminal...
[01:03] <unop> mamzers555,  whats the ocmmand you are using there?
[01:03] <lancerr> Is it possible to have a different desktop background for each virtual desktop? I don't think it is (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149130), but things may have changed since then (eg. in Beryl). Thanks
[01:03] <Lucifel> unop I was after a tunneled remote desktop session for when I have to work on the Windoze machine from shady networks
[01:03] <vanlinx> hey, whats the channel for ATI ubuntu specific installations if there is one
[01:03] <mamzers555> unop; wine --winver.exe winxp xxx.exe
[01:03] <unop> albe84tr,  use this command _exactly_ -- gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <erUSUL> !ati | vanlinx
[01:03] <ubotu> vanlinx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <BrendanM> albe84tr, in the terminal, did you use the gksudo command?
[01:04] <vanlinx> ok kool
[01:04] <BrendanM> albe84tr, what command did you enter to launch gedit
[01:04] <frogzoo> !appdb | mamzers555
[01:04] <ubotu> mamzers555: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:04] <Lucifel> unop ssh forwarding works for VNC from Mac OS X on external network to the Ubuntu machine
[01:04] <unop> mamzers555,  well obviously -- is --winver.exe a command even -- it should be wine winver.exe winxp xxx.exe -- but i doubt that command will work
[01:04] <chrisjw_> hi can someone post me that ubuntu FAQ website
[01:04] <chrisjw_> it was really interesting
[01:04] <frogzoo> mamzers555: also, you're best off using the budgetdedicated repo
[01:04] <frogzoo> !wine | mamzers555
[01:04] <ubotu> mamzers555: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:05] <Lucifel> unop oh NM misread your last msg, checking that now
[01:05] <unop> Lucifel,  I understand exactly what you are doing :) what i mean is turn IPTables off and try that ssh command i gave you there from your mac to the ssh server on ubuntu
[01:06] <antonisgr> hi. I have low transfer speeds on gaim messenger.Is there any way to solve it?
[01:06] <coNP> anyone using mediawiki on edgy? it complains that tsearch2 is not installed, however I installed the postgresql-8.1-contrib package (and tsearch2 seems to be part of it)
[01:06] <albe84tr> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <unop> albe84tr,  forget this approach, it's just not working for you
[01:07] <unop> !upgrade | albe84tr follow this instead
[01:07] <ubotu> albe84tr follow this instead: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:09] <albe84tr> ubotu, i can not bacause it says I have to download personal security manager first
[01:10] <mamzers555> how can i found out, which charset my ubuntu has?
[01:10] <Fedman> I have problems playing .mov files. I've installed all the codecs from automatix and still get the no stream error in mplayer
[01:10] <erUSUL> mamzers555: utf8
[01:11] <Fedman> any ideas what I can be doing wrong
[01:12] <erUSUL> Fedman: automatix is a black box for most of us... we can not know what it has done wrong...
[01:12] <mackinac> using automatix :p
[01:12] <albe84tr> unop, 1 I write in the terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 2 i copy in the window that apears (sourse.list) the text that is in the link you gave me. 3 I write that comand. What is wrong???
[01:13] <BrendanM> Anyone know what this personal security manager it's asking for is about?
[01:13] <BrendanM> I've never heard of that
[01:13] <mamzers555> erUSUL; thank you, do you also know how to find out which charset my windows has?
[01:13] <jarhead756> configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:13] <erUSUL> mamzers555: no, sorry :(
[01:13] <jarhead756> does this mean i need something else?
[01:13] <mamzers555> ok, thanks
[01:14] <ahave> i am having trouble with some apps and their sound, could someone help me diagnose this?
[01:14] <erUSUL> jarhead756: you need  XML::Parser perl module
[01:14] <Fedman> erUSUL: I've tried installing all the codecs from the repositories before using automatix including the bad and ugly ones
[01:14] <jarhead756> where can i find that erusul?
[01:14] <mackinac> !anyone
[01:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:14] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you can't open that website in Firefox? Is that the problem?
[01:14] <erUSUL> ubotu tell ahave about sound | ahave see priv msg from ubotu
[01:14] <erUSUL> Fedman: for mov files you need w32codecs afaik
[01:15] <BrendanM> !patronizing
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patronizing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <BrendanM> Guess not.
[01:15] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Fedman about w32codecs | Fedman see priv msg from ubotu
[01:15] <albe84tr> brendan no i can open it in mozilla...
[01:15] <erUSUL> jarhead756: with synaptic or apt-cache search
[01:15] <vanlinx>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY fullysick
[01:15] <mamzers555> somebody get photoshop cs2 running on linux with wine?
[01:15] <BrendanM> albe84tr, ok so just read it in mozilla
[01:15] <albe84tr> brendanM, I cant open it in mozilla...
[01:16] <erUSUL> vanlinx: XD
[01:16] <Fedman> erSUL: thx mate much apretiated :)
[01:16] <BrendanM> albe84tr, neither mozilla nor firefox will open it?
[01:16] <erUSUL> Fedman: no problem
[01:16] <jarhead756> erusul, so it starts with xml, right?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> vanlinx: "Pizza" Fan? ;D
[01:16] <erUSUL> jarhead756: most likely with perl-
[01:16] <albe84tr> no I cant open in in mozilla i dont have firefox anymore and I can not dowload opera
[01:16] <Grogs> Am I going to have a lot of problems installing Ubuntu on a system using the Asus P5B?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> !hardware | Grogs
[01:16] <ubotu> Grogs: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:17] <Grogs> Thanks. :)
[01:17] <Tomcat_> Grogs: Try with the LiveCD first, but I doubt you'll have problems.
[01:18] <Grogs> Alright, I just read on the forums and there was mention of problems with drivers for CD drives etc. :)
[01:18] <erUSUL> albe84tr: try epiphany web browser
[01:18] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know how to compile H.264 support into ffmpeg?  I need it for podencode
[01:18] <jarhead756> erUSUL, this would be it wouldn't it? libxml-parser-perl
[01:19] <albe84tr> erUSUL, it is not possible to dowload it from application manager... I try to find it online
[01:19] <erUSUL> jarhead756: yes it could be...
[01:19] <albe84tr> but i have just the impression taht upgrading the system everything would work...
[01:20] <erUSUL> albe84tr: your systems seems to be falling appart nothing works... :(
[01:20] <jarhead756> in compiling, after ./configure, is it make, or ./make
[01:21] <sebrock|a> I need some help, just installed Ubuntu 6.10 and X wont start, I do hear the loginsound etc tho. Any tips?
[01:21] <ahave> erUSUL, the link you gave me doesnt seem to be quite what i am looking for...
[01:21] <ahave> erUSUL, sound works with _some_ apps. but not all
[01:21] <erUSUL> ahave: what apps do work?
[01:21] <ahave> erUSUL, i tried a diff liveCD of diff distro and the sound works fine
[01:21] <albe84tr> but i have just the impression taht upgrading the system everything would work...
[01:22] <albe84tr> Il pacchetto epiphany-browser non ha versioni disponibili, ma .
[01:22] <albe84tr> Questo significa che il pacchetto  diventato obsoleto on disponibile all'interno da un'altra sorgente
[01:22] <albe84tr> E: Il pacchetto epiphany-browser non ha candidati da installare
[01:22] <ahave> erUSUL, firefox works and i tried a few games and they worked also
[01:22] <albe84tr> sorry
[01:22] <ahave> erUSUL, but xchat has no sounds and kismet has no sounds
[01:22] <sebrock|a> was the same with the LiveCD, i have no clue
[01:23] <vanlinx> hey, why cant i talk to anyone here? do i need to register or something?
[01:23] <albe84tr> erUSUL I have tryed to install it from terminal: it says that there is no versin aviable
[01:23] <erUSUL> albe84tr: maybe a fresh install would be better (if you can backup your files)
[01:23] <albe84tr> erUSUL
[01:24] <sebrock|a> hmmm anyone?
[01:24] <erUSUL> vanlinx: yes, you have to be registerd to pm (and ask first)
[01:25] <erUSUL> sebrock|a: try booting in recovery mode and reconfigure X try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:25] <carlhume> Okay, I have to ask - why is the mysql-server-4.1 deb dependent on postfix?
[01:25] <frogzoo_> carlhume: mail alerts, unfortunately
[01:26] <sebrock|a> erUSUL, maybe I should tell you more, after the bootscreen when X should start, the marker blinks a few times and then freezes
[01:26] <carlhume> frogzoo, hrm - I cancelled out of the postfix config, and apt appears to just be haning...
[01:26] <albe84tr> erUSUL this is the second time I install ubuntu 5.10... same problems... know i would like to upgrade to 6.06/6.10 BUT there is some problem... unop was explaining me how to do but then he stoped:
[01:26] <troughton> i am wanting to find out about composit managers can anyone help ?
[01:26] <CheshireViking> vanlinx, you put in a /msg NICKSERV info in the channel before, that'd suggest you are registered on freenode
[01:26] <albe84tr> I was doing as follow:
[01:26] <carlhume> frogzoo_, hrm - I cancelled out of the postfix config, and apt appears to just be haning...
[01:26] <erUSUL> ahave: maybe kismet (being qt iirc needs arts running)
[01:26] <albe84tr> unop, 1 I write in the terminal: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list 2 i copy in the window that apears (sourse.list) the text that is in the link you gave me. 3 I write that comand. What is wrong???
[01:26] <frogzoo_> carlhume: start over maybe
[01:26] <carlhume> frogzoo_, I was afraid you'd say that :)
[01:27] <mamzers555> i have problem with recode, if i enter recode ucs-2..utf-8 xxx.reg then i get an error
[01:27] <frogzoo_> carlhume: just the mysql install, not all over
[01:27] <ahave> erUSUL, what do you mean by qt iirc and arts?
[01:27] <erUSUL> albe84tr: and nothing happens when you issue the aptitude comands?
[01:27] <ahave> erUSUL, link me?
[01:27] <BrendanM> albe84tr, what's the matter with doing a clean install? Can you just download/burn the install CD?
[01:27] <Jowi> carlhume, it isn't for me. mailx is there but not postfix
[01:27] <mamzers555> somebody have an idea about that?
[01:27] <Fedman> erSUL: I installed em and I still can't play mov files :(
[01:27] <BrendanM> albe84tr, it really seems like you're having a lot of trouble with the upgrade
[01:27] <carlhume> frogzoo_, No worries - it wouldn't have been a smiley afterwords if I thought I'd be reinstalling everything
[01:27] <erUSUL> ahave: arts is a sound server like esd some apps need one to be running kde uses arts and gnome esd
[01:27] <sebrock|a> erUSUL is this saying anything to you, its from .xsession-errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/353514
[01:27] <albe84tr> maybe it will be easier to find the 6.06/6.10 version cd in
[01:28] <carlhume> Jowi, Really?   hmmmm
[01:28] <albe84tr> Istanbul
[01:28] <ahave> erUSUL, ah
[01:28] <Jowi> carlhume, "apt-cache depends mysql-server-4.1" show only mailx (edgy)
[01:28] <erUSUL> Fedman: it works for me... i do not know what can be wrong...
[01:28] <jekson_> this is my problem
[01:28] <troughton> can anyone help me with composit manigers and ubuntu eye candy ?
[01:28] <ahave> erUSUL, can i load a KDE environment ontop/next to my ubuntu w/ gnome?
[01:29] <ahave> erUSUL, or possibly switch to KDE without loosing all my settings
[01:29] <albe84tr> erusul. this happened: GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:29] <albe84tr> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:29] <carlhume> Jowi, interesting - I just dove into a apt-get install mysql-server-4.1, and low and behold - postfix!
[01:29] <erUSUL> ahave: not wise, maybe tyou can configure kismet to use alsa directly and all other apps that doesn't work
[01:30] <jekson_> i try to install cedega CVS i install the dependances but whe I i try to launch WineCVS script it turn me this problem
[01:30] <jekson_> test: 43: ==: unexpected operator
[01:30] <jekson_> WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:30] <albe84tr> brendanM where to download the installCD?
[01:30] <Jowi> carlhume, are you using the ubuntu repos?
[01:30] <ahave> erUSUL, what if i just switch to KDE? would that require a new install?
[01:30] <erUSUL> albe84tr: use nano instead of gedit in a terminal
[01:30] <albe84tr> ok
[01:30] <carlhume> Jowi, universe, multiverse, restricted
[01:31] <carlhume> Jowi, using the Canadian mirrors though
[01:31] <Fedman> erUSUL: uh sorry I'm dumb it's working now :)
[01:31] <carlhume> Jowi, if that makes a difference...
[01:31] <erUSUL> ahave: no, install kubuntu-desktop but it seems like no worth the effort just for hearing kismet
[01:31] <erUSUL> Fedman: no problem
[01:31] <Jowi> carlhume, Filename: pool/universe/m/mysql-dfsg-4.1/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb  <-- that's the one?
[01:31] <jekson_> any idea for my problem look up
[01:32] <ahave> erUSUL, i agree. but i wouldnt mind seeing the difference in the two.
[01:32] <erUSUL> ahave: as i said install kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <ahave> erUSUL, alright. thank you
[01:33] <carlhume> Jowi, Not sure, to be honest - how do I find out?
[01:33] <albe84tr> erUSUL and then?
[01:33] <Jowi> carlhume, apt-cache show mysql-server-4.1 | grep name
[01:34] <carlhume> Jowi, thanks
[01:34] <erUSUL> albe84tr: change breezy to dapper in all lines
[01:34] <BrendanM> albe84tr, you can download them here: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:34] <carlhume> Jowi, carl@home:~$ apt-cache show mysql-server-4.1 | grep name
[01:34] <carlhume> Filename: pool/universe/m/mysql-dfsg-4.1/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[01:36] <Jowi> carlhume, same. why do we have different dependencies? it isn't another package you're installing that demands it?
[01:36] <albe84tr> erUSUL no line... the page it is empty
[01:36] <carlhume> Jowi, I just typed "sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1" ...
[01:37] <carlhume> Jowi, Thanks for your help - the babies are calling me
[01:37] <Jowi> carlhume_afk, np
[01:37] <troughton> i am wanting to find out about xgl and alglx and composit manages can anyone help ?
[01:38] <erUSUL> albe84tr: have you done 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'  ??
[01:38] <cizra> Hello there
[01:38] <albe84tr> erUSUL.. sure..
[01:38] <cizra> I've got a VERYstrange problem.
[01:38] <erUSUL> !beryl > troughton
[01:38] <cizra> When Iwrite a small test program, GCCcomplains that bar.cpp:5: error: stray \342 in program
[01:38] <cizra> Ibet it's a codepage issue.
[01:38] <erUSUL> albe84tr: and it's empty ??
[01:39] <cizra> $LANGand $LC_ALLare both et_EE.utf8
[01:39] <cizra> file bar.cpp says bar.cpp: UTF-8 Unicode C program text
[01:39] <erUSUL> albe84tr: no wonder nothing worked...
[01:39] <cizra> Any ideas?
[01:39] <darweth> I have a simple problem.  When I apt-get install, it no longer asks me Y/N before installing something.  How can I turn Y/N back on?
[01:39] <albe84tr> erUSUL yes   GNU nano 1.3.8        File: '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:39] <albe84tr>                                  [ Nuovo file ]
[01:39] <albe84tr> ^G Guida     ^O Salva     ^R Inserisci ^Y Pag Prec. ^K Taglia    ^C Posizione
[01:39] <albe84tr> ^X Esci      ^J Giustifica^W Cerca     ^V Pag Succ. ^U Incolla   ^T Ortografia
[01:39] <darweth> (It does ask Y/N before removing).
[01:40] <troughton> when i try that erUSUL i lose my graphics all together
[01:40] <albe84tr> erUSUL yes it is empty
[01:40] <cizra> darweth: When you apt-get one package, it doesn't ask, IIRC. When apt-getting a package that depends on a bunch of others, it should ask.
[01:40] <erUSUL> troughton: go to the specific irc channel mentioned in the ubotu msg
[01:40] <darweth> Ah.  I see.
[01:41] <troughton> thanks
[01:41] <darweth> I suppose that would explain not asking over xchat-systray.
[01:41] <erUSUL> albe84tr: you need to regenerate it or copy one hold on
[01:41] <Ins|de> hi there, i've a little problem with sound, i cannot hear anything, i've unmuted all channels, all modules are loaded, but it stills completely mute, can anyone help me? thanks
[01:41] <Jowi> darweth, normally, if it is only one package without dependencies it will not ask. if it is a package that need to install dependencies in order for it to work it will ask
[01:41] <darweth> Okay, I did not know that. :)  Thank you.
[01:41] <IdleOne> Ins|de, speakers plugged in?
[01:41] <albe84tr> erUSUL regenerate=write ?
[01:41] <Ins|de> IdleOne, yes
[01:42] <IdleOne> !sound | Ins|de
[01:42] <ubotu> Ins|de: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:42] <albe84tr> erUSUL I can write it again letter by letter
[01:42] <grimsan> what is a good firewall program for ubuntu ?
[01:42] <Ins|de> IdleOne, thanks, let me check
[01:43] <IdleOne> grimsan, sudo aptitude install firestarter
[01:43] <IdleOne> !info firestarter
[01:43] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[01:43] <erUSUL> albe84tr: wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5555/plain/ this will dl a index.html that you can rename as sources.list and use
[01:44] <grimsan> !info guarddog
[01:44] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[01:44] <grimsan> which is best?
[01:44] <IdleOne> grimsan, or guardog
[01:44] <grimsan> im a complete newb
[01:44] <IdleOne> !best | grimsan
[01:44] <ubotu> grimsan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:44] <jekson_>  i try to install cedega CVS i install the dependances but whe I i try to launch WineCVS script it turn me this problem
[01:44] <jekson_>  test: 43: ==: unexpected operator
 WineCVS.sh: 48: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[01:44] <Aaron_Mason> !info ffmpeg
[01:44] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20060823-3.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 612 kB
[01:44] <grimsan> so i need something easy
[01:45] <grimsan> ok IdleOne , im a newb, so what do u recomend
[01:45] <IdleOne> grimsan, try them both see what works for you... sudo aptitude install firestarter ( if you dont like it ) sudo aptitude remove firtestarter
[01:46] <erUSUL> albe84tr: once you replaced the sources.list use the aptitude comands unop said and cross your fingers (or use: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) DO NOT MISS the  DIST part of the command
[01:46] <IdleOne> grimsan, I have tried firestarter have not used guarddog
[01:46] <albe84tr> erUSUL but it is not possible to write there in the page that I open writing sudo nano ... thing...
[01:47] <grimsan> IdleOne , it doesnt get firestarter
[01:47] <IdleOne> grimsan, have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[01:47] <grimsan> yepp
[01:47] <IdleOne> you sure
[01:47] <grimsan> whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[01:47] <grimsan> yes im sure
[01:48] <erUSUL> albe84tr: use sudo for example 'sudo cp -i index.html /etc/apt/sources.list' (answer yes)
[01:48] <IdleOne> ok go to System>Administration>Synaptic package Manager and search for it there
[01:48] <Jowi> grimsan, (don't forget to apt-get update or reload in synaptic)
[01:48] <grimsan> i did
[01:48] <grimsan> this is weird man :D
[01:49] <IdleOne> grimsan, aptitude seems to track dependencies a little better for me at least.. apt-get sometimes doesnt remove all the depends after I decide I dont like a certain app
[01:49] <erUSUL> albe84tr: cp copies files
[01:49] <maaaani^weg> is it possible to use Smart Package Manager with kubuntu?
[01:49] <sebrock|a> if I only could get the ath0 to work then installing the nvidia would solve my problem I think
[01:50] <erUSUL> albe84tr: i have to go away, sorry...
[01:50] <sebrock|a> Fatal server error:
[01:50] <sebrock|a> no screens
[01:50] <sebrock|a> thats what I get when starting X
[01:50] <IdleOne> grimsan, if you need more help ask away in channel here. /me brb
[01:50] <albe84tr> erUSUL last thing!
[01:51] <erUSUL> albe84tr: ?
[01:51] <albe84tr> erUSUL, what i have to write after cp:
[01:51] <albe84tr> ?
[01:52] <erUSUL> albe84tr: 'sudo cp -i index.html /etc/apt/sources.list' you have to be in the dir you dl the index.html file with wget
[01:52] <erUSUL> albe84tr: Ciao!!
[01:52] <sebrock|a> how the hell do I get the network to run??
[01:52] <sebrock|a> I cant get it up by iwconfig
[01:52] <albe84tr> erUSUL: dl? wget?
[01:52] <sebrock|a> "no such device"
[01:52] <frogzoo> !wifi | sebrock|a
[01:52] <ubotu> sebrock|a: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:53] <albe84tr> erUSUL dont go!!!!!! :-))
[01:53] <lasse_> sebrock|a, try sudo ifconfig  and see what network interfaces is up a nd running?
[01:53] <albe84tr> erUSUL: no te ne andare... ti prego :-)))))))))))99+
[01:53] <albe84tr> erUSUL: dl? wget?
[01:53] <sebrock|a> lasse_ I did
[01:54] <sebrock|a> Its just a bunch of loopbacks
[01:54] <Yodude> hey can someone help me with beryl? no one is answering me at the #ubuntu-effects channel
[01:54] <lasse_> sebrock|a, and what is listed?
[01:54] <sebrock|a> eth0 ath0
[01:54] <sebrock|a> which is correct
[01:54] <Yodude> unop: lol can you help me with beryl plz
[01:54] <sebrock|a> but when I try to start them, I get "no such devvice"
[01:54] <lasse_> sebrock|a, ath0 is your wifi?
[01:55] <sebrock|a> yeah
[01:55] <sebrock|a> lasse_ funny thing is that during install it was detected and asked for WEP code and said it was successfull
[01:55] <lasse_> sebrock|a, you use wep?
[01:56] <Night_Owl> Holy moley
[01:56] <Yodude> help please!!!
[01:56] <Night_Owl> There's a lot of people in here :)
[01:56] <IdleOne> Yodude, there is #beryl also you can ask in
[01:56] <lasse_> sebrock|a, do you use wep on your wireless network?
[01:56] <sebrock|a> yes
[01:56] <lasse_> sebrock|a, do you know if it is ascii or hexidecimal?
[01:57] <sebrock|a> it was all configured good in install, its hex
[01:57] <lasse_> sebrock|a, try sudo iwconfig ath0 essid <yournetworkhere> key <yourweppassword>
[01:58] <sebrock|a> did
[01:58] <lasse_> sebrock|a, you sure the syntax is right?
[01:58] <sebrock|a> it complains about no such device
[01:58] <suguru_> I tried to pastin I did a replace of
[01:58] <suguru_> v   pythonPackages very many
[01:58] <suguru_> with
[01:58] <suguru_> #  v   pythonPackages very many
[01:58] <suguru_> leaving a long list of
[01:58] <suguru_> p  pythonPackages very many
[01:58] <sebrock|a> I really dont understand that, as everyhting was configured during install
[01:58] <suguru_> and that was unwieldly so I aborted as you can see below
[01:58] <wirelexh> Hi
[01:58] <suguru_> then I deleated everything except
[01:58] <suguru_> p   python 2.5 and another package
[01:58] <suguru_> which was only 16MB to dl but I could not even
[01:58] <suguru_> get this.
[01:58] <suguru_> I have flown across 12 time zones and would really like
[01:58] <suguru_> to start a download to take back to the Indonesian
[01:58] <suguru_> disaster zone to help others learn python.
[01:59] <suguru_> We are charged for each byte dl in Indonesia if we
[01:59] <suguru_> are even lucky to be able to dl.  You can't most of
[01:59] <suguru_> the time in the disaster area.
[01:59] <suguru_> Will someone please help me?
[01:59] <wirelexh> please where are spanish server for xchat?
[01:59] <suguru_> Why is only downloading python so slow on my
[01:59] <suguru_> high-speed connection after hours of trials?
[01:59] <sebrock|a> damn this is bugging me out
[01:59] <suguru_>  and the results but I got a message that I appeared to be spamming.  I was asked to enable javascript.  But I want to stay secure.
[01:59] <lxsu> ngon svensk?
[01:59] <lasse_> lxsu, this is not a swedish channel
[01:59] <Jowi> lxsu, yeah, but try #ubuntu-se
[01:59] <wirelexh> please where are spanish server for xchat?
[01:59] <CrakeHunter> hello, how can i control the speed of my case fan?
[02:00] <Jowi> lxsu, only English speaking in here
[02:00] <lxsu> ook.... can I find some swedish channel for ubuntu users?
[02:00] <Jowi> lxsu, "/join #ubuntu-se"
[02:00] <jrib> suguru_: why are you downloading python?  It's included in ubuntu
[02:00] <lasse_> #ubuntu-se
[02:00] <lxsu> tnx
[02:00] <wirelexh> #ubuntu-se o #ubuntu-es it's a channel or server?
[02:01] <Jowi> wirelexh, a channel on this server
[02:01] <Jowi> s/server/network
[02:01] <suguru_> Where is version 2.5? How can I tell what is included and what is not.  I only got 2.4 in Edgy.
[02:01] <Night_Owl> I'm looking for networking help.. Running on an XP box atm, other box is Ubuntu 6.10, looking to network the two together so I can share files and printers.  Do I need Samba (it looks like it would be a major headache to set up for a new user :/)
[02:01] <jrib> suguru_: only 2.4 is included, 2.5 has to be downloaded
[02:02] <lasse_> Night_Owl, yuo need samba
[02:02] <IdleOne> wirelexh, click on Xchat ( top left ) and then network list in there you will find a list of all the servers
[02:02] <samuel__> weeg234g235
[02:02] <wirelexh> Jowi, do you know any spanish server, please?
[02:02] <frogzoo> Night_Owl: samba is the way to go
[02:02] <frogzoo> !samba | Night_Owl
[02:02] <ubotu> Night_Owl: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:02] <Jowi> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:02] <wirelexh> ubotu gracias
[02:02] <jrib> suguru_: are you using a local mirror?
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gracias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <samuel__> wre2r5we56r65rt76567k789989
[02:03] <suguru_> I did not do anything special.  I am near LAX in Los Angeles.
[02:03] <yabba> hello, i am trying to install ubuntu linux dapper drake. my bios accepts my S-ATA HDD (I have RAID switched OFF) but when the ubuntu installer checks for HDD it says it doesn't find any partitionable media
[02:03] <ahave> can anyone help me with soundplay?
[02:03] <lasse_> Night_Owl, if you want to set up insecure, but easy samba, this is the way to go http://my.opera.com/Mr%20Green/blog/show.dml/227095
[02:04] <posingaspopular> yabba: are you using a live cd?
[02:04] <yabba> yes
[02:04] <posingaspopular> can you try a different one?
[02:04] <yabba> i also tried with an earlier version which was non-live
[02:04] <posingaspopular> hmmm
[02:05] <posingaspopular> ive never heard of this having.
[02:05] <Night_Owl> At this point, easy will do plenty :) I'm not *as* concerned about security with the Linux box, and my XP machines have firewalls installed already (note - not Windows Firewall) ;)
[02:05] <posingaspopular> what exactly is the error you get?
[02:05] <Night_Owl> At this point I just want simple and stable :)
[02:05] <yabba> from the live cd the installer just crashes, and the earlier version's installation process gives me "no partitionable media found"
[02:06] <yabba> it says it doesnt find any media to create a partition on, which is strange cause my BIOS has got the S-ATA
[02:06] <yabba> im a big helpless, could it have to do with the RAID?
[02:06] <lasse_> Night_Owl, thats good. follow the link then, but be aware that you might compromise information you might want to keep secure if you go for this solution
[02:06] <yabba> bit*
[02:06] <posingaspopular> what would happen if you turned RAID on. i assume that you're booting from the live cd and trying to install ubunt on your SATA?
[02:06] <Hub441> hi!
[02:07] <Night_Owl> As in, worrying about it getting over the Internet?
[02:07] <suguru_> unop, told me how to dl a list of python programs then edit the list to get what I wanted then say aptitude install cat to install list.  Can anybody help me do what he suggested?
[02:07] <yabba> yes exactly posingaspopular . if i turn the RAID in my bios on it doesnt find the HDD anymore
[02:07] <Hub441> i finally did it, and my laptop boots now the xubuntu-cd over PXE
[02:07] <frogzoo> Hub441: neat trick
[02:07] <Hub441> last problem: gdm won't start due to wrong owdnerships in /var/lib/gdm
[02:07] <Night_Owl> I insist on wired, not wireless ;)
[02:07] <posingaspopular> wow thats strange, ive never heard of that
[02:07] <yabba> yes i dont get it either
[02:07] <Hub441> frogzoo: jupp, needed a lot of trying to make it work
[02:08] <yabba> ok ill continue googling thx anyway
[02:08] <lasse_> Night_Owl, if its wired and not wireless your 95% more secure
[02:08] <frogzoo> Hub441: drwxrwx--T 2 root gdm 1024 2007-02-13 23:47 /var/lib/gdm/
[02:08] <posingaspopular> is there anyone in here wo can help out with this SATA/install problem? I'm no good with SATA
[02:08] <Hub441> so my question: what's the password for the CD?
[02:08] <Hub441> frogzoo: can't login 'cause i don't know the root-pw for the liveCD
[02:09] <frogzoo> Hub441: blank passwd ?
[02:09] <yabba> SATA HDD accepted in BIOS but ubuntu installer doesnt find it
[02:09] <lasse_> Hub441, you should be able to log in as root by typing sudo -i    . It shouldnt ask you for a password
[02:09] <Night_Owl> Aye, I agree. They pretty much have to be physically connected to get anywhere :)
[02:09] <yabba> could it be my BIOS version?
[02:09] <lasse_> Night_Owl, did you find the link useful?
[02:09] <frogzoo> Hub441: sudo -i should just pop you a shell straight up
[02:10] <ahave> what is ubuntu's default sound player? and where is it located?
[02:10] <Hub441> GDM didn't start !
[02:10] <Night_Owl> Yeah
[02:10] <posingaspopular> it could be bios, or the installer
[02:10] <frogzoo> ahave: alsa on edgy
[02:10] <posingaspopular> or a combination of the two
[02:10] <Night_Owl> Do I have to install Samba on both machines?
[02:10] <Hub441> no GUI at all,, only console
[02:10] <grimsan> thx IdleOne , firestarter was great
[02:10] <ahave> frogzoo, what is edgy?
[02:10] <Anubis> hey all
[02:10] <frogzoo> ahave: edgy is latest release
[02:10] <lasse_> Night_Owl, no, windows has its smb protocol installed
[02:10] <mackinac> Question: fresh Edgy install :: a fat32 partition from previous install, not reformatted :: the fat32's vol label i gave it at install was "data(fat)" - in some places nautilus gives it the correct name, but in other places, like the drive icon on desktop or in nautilus location bar, it's labeled with weird characters: "ht, "");    }" ..... any idea why?
[02:10] <frogzoo> Hub441: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:10] <ahave> frogzoo, ah, ok :)
[02:11] <Night_Owl> ok.. gimme a few min.. gotta hop onto the Ubuntu box and find Samba :)
[02:11] <Hub441> frogzoo: LOL how to start without beeing logged in?