[00:06] <ubernoob> hi. trying to install grub-cusomizer in kubuntu 15.10 but getting this error, not sure what to do.. tried to install said packages and its a no go.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12729231/
[00:07] <ubernoob> just wanting to remove a bunch of menu entries so there are only 2
[00:11] <ubernoob> im actually using burg but i think burg relies on the grub list
[00:11] <sigilbaram_> https://paste.debian.net/315221/
[00:11] <sigilbaram_> oops
[00:11] <sigilbaram_> that was for #grub
[00:13] <ubernoob> yeah basically i want to remove entries from my burg list so theres only 2
[00:15] <ubernoob> also (unrelated) i would like to remove the instant messanger icon in the tray but i can't figure out that either :p
[00:15] <ubernoob> disregard that last post
[00:27] <ubernoob> okay, i've found the file containing the burg menu entries, /boot/burg/burg.cfg. do i just simply put a # before the lines i wish to remove?
[00:29] <ubernoob> hmm.. it says not to edit the file right at the top of it lol.
[00:36] <karloz> hola
[00:37] <ubernoob> hola, buenas noches.
[00:38] <karloz> buenas noches, acabo de insalar kubuntu 15.04 plasma
[00:38] <ubernoob> well, i'm going to the store.. if anyone knows how to remove entries from the burg bootloader menu, kubuntu 15.10, please let me know, i will check back shortly!
[00:38] <JosuG> ubernoob: try "sudo nano /etc/default/burg". It should show the contents of the file and how to edit it. I dont use burg, so I don't know if it will work.
[00:39] <karloz> lo instale desde usb creada con UUI
[00:39] <ubernoob> thanks josuG
[00:40] <JosuG> No problem.
[00:41] <ubernoob> is there a spanish kubuntu channel?
[00:43] <JosuG> ubernoob, karloz: let me check...
[00:45] <JosuG> No, but there should be.
[01:17] <mparillo> No, but maybe they hang out on the spanish ubuntu channel?
[01:17] <mparillo> !es
[04:10] <th3pun15h3r> So has anyone had luck installing plasma 5.4 with kubuntu 14.04?
[10:35] <th3s3_3y3s_>  there a gui tool to look at LVM maps?
[10:35] <th3s3_3y3s_> Disks used to do it. With the update it looks like not so anymore.
[10:36] <lordievader> LVM maps?
[10:36] <th3s3_3y3s_> Like a partition.
[10:37] <lordievader> Do you mean some utility to graphically display pvdisplay -m output?
[10:37] <th3s3_3y3s_> It really isn't a partition.
[10:37] <th3s3_3y3s_> I want to resize the swap file and I used LVM this time.
[10:37] <th3s3_3y3s_> There were some difficulties moving things around using real partitions.
[10:38] <th3s3_3y3s_> With the newer drives they do what LVM does anyway.
[10:38] <th3s3_3y3s_> So it is hard to partition.
[10:38] <lordievader> I don't understand the problem. LVM supports live moving of data.
[10:39] <th3s3_3y3s_> Sure some GUI tool to resize the swap .
[10:39] <th3s3_3y3s_> I want to enable hibernation and the default install only made a 4GB swap.
[10:42] <lordievader> Hmm, I'd just remove it and make a new one. If your are using lvm there is no reason not to just remove it.
[10:53] <FOAD> Hi.
[10:54] <FOAD> When I boot up my computer, I get a low-res graphical screen where I can enter my password, but then after a second it returns to that screen. I can get a little bit farther if I log in as a guest.
[10:54] <lordievader> o/
[10:55] <FOAD> Everything used to be fine.
[10:55] <FOAD> What could be the cause?
[10:55] <lordievader> FOAD: It could be that the rights to your home-dir are incorrect.
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:55] <FOAD> But when I login from the command prompt everything seems okay.
[10:56] <FOAD> I should note that the resolution of the graphical screen is all wrong, I have 2 HD screens that used to display fine, now I get a small image on just the left screen.
[10:56] <lordievader> FOAD: Check the permissions on your home-dir.
[10:58] <FOAD> drwxrwxr-x foad foad
[11:00] <lordievader> FOAD: Just to be sure I'd run a 'chown <username>:<username> -R /home/<username>' and a 'chmod 700 -R /home/<username>'.
[11:01] <JunkHunk> hello is there a new way to turn kubuntu into macbuntu? this page looks like outdated: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[11:02] <lordievader> FOAD: Also is the kernel parameter 'nomodeset' set?
[11:02] <FOAD> Okay, I did those, got a bunch of not-permitted on stuff like .cpan.
[11:02] <FOAD> I don't know, how do I check that.
[11:03] <lordievader> FOAD: Right, run the commands then with sudo. (This does point to incorrect permission by the by ;) ) For the kernel parameters see /proc/cmdline
[11:04] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, think about it , do you really think you'll get much help with that request?
[11:04] <FOAD> Okay.
[11:05] <FOAD> lordievader: nothing about nomodeset in /proc/cmdline
[11:05] <lordievader> FOAD: Okay, good.
[11:06] <FOAD> Okay.
[11:06] <FOAD> Now what? :)
[11:07] <lordievader> FOAD: Did you fix the permissions?
[11:07] <FOAD> Yes.
[11:07] <lordievader> FOAD: Try to log in graphically.
[11:08] <FOAD> Okay, as far as I know that means rebooting. Or is there another option?
[11:09] <lordievader> FOAD: Switch to lightdm/sddm and log in?
[11:09] <lordievader> No need to reboot.
[11:11] <FOAD> Okay wow, at least that gets me in.
[11:11] <FOAD> Resolution is still all wrong though.
[11:12] <JunkHunk> BluesKaj,  I already successfully install noobslab's macbuntu on an ubuntu 14.04 but I don't really know how to do it on a Kubuntu system...and that web page is the only acceptable thread I found about that subject...I was just looking for someone who already did it..
[11:12] <lordievader> FOAD: What graphics card and driver do you use?
[11:12] <FOAD> Er..
[11:12] <FOAD> Some nvidia thing... :/
[11:13] <lordievader> FOAD: lspci -k|grep -A3
[11:13] <lordievader> FOAD: lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA
[11:13] <FOAD> Geforce GT 640.
[11:14] <FOAD> Kernel driver in use: nvidia.
[11:15] <lordievader> FOAD: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[11:16] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, unless there's an available theme that mimic's the mac "look" then trying to get help here is pointless
[11:16] <FOAD> How do I check?  I think it's 2 years old.
[11:17] <lordievader> FOAD: lsb_release -a
[11:17] <FOAD> 14.04
[11:18] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Could you assist FOAD, you know much more about nVidia hardware than I do.
[11:19] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, I shall have to resize the root partition which uses what space remains after the 4GB.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> FOAD, lordievader yes , but I don't use multiple monitors
[11:19] <FOAD> Thank you.
[11:19] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Why? Aren't you using lvm?
[11:20] <Guest34807> hello :)  For the last few weeks I can't shutdown my system from "leave -> shutdown on the KDE menu, or by right clicking on the desktop and selecting it.  Anyone else having this issue?
[11:20] <FOAD> Do you think there'd be any point in rebooting now, just to see how things stand?
[11:21] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, Yes, the system is using lvm.
[11:22] <th3s3_3y3s_> In gnome-disks it only shows as a large lvm partition
[11:22] <BluesKaj> FOAD, try, it might help
[11:22] <FOAD> I will do that and then come back here.
[11:22] <FOAD> Thanks so far!
[11:23] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: So put your swap on an lvm partition?
[11:24] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, The swap is on lvm, I want to resize it.
[11:25] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: I already told you how I would do that... What you can also do is extend the logical volume and recreate the swap filesystem.
[11:25] <FOAD> Hi.
[11:26] <FOAD> Well, I can log in to the graphical desktop right away now, but the screen resolution is all wrong.
[11:26] <FOAD> I looked at the "display settings" and it will only give me the option for a single screen 640x480.
[11:27] <th3s3_3y3s_> no the root needs to be resized
[11:27] <BluesKaj> FOAD, what type of connection to the monitors?
[11:27] <th3s3_3y3s_> does gparted work with lvm?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> th3s3_3y3s_, it should
[11:29] <FOAD> DVI.
[11:29] <th3s3_3y3s_> internally
[11:29] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: I don't understand your situation. Could you pastebin the output of pvdisplay -m of all the physical volumes?
[11:30] <th3s3_3y3s_> internally? something more than what gnome-disks only showing the LVM as a whole.
[11:30] <BluesKaj> th3s3_3y3s_, I thought one of the features of lvm was resizing on the fly
[11:31] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It is. Along with moving data from one disk to another live.
[11:31] <lordievader> Live reducing is still not a thing though.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> FOAD, let's check which nvidia driver you have,  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3
[11:33] <FOAD> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GT 640] [10de:0fc1] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:83f9] Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[11:33] <FOAD> 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e1b] (rev a1)
[11:35] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, Yes, Here is the queried output https://paste.kde.org/puwvuu6hw/bbafyk
[11:35] <BluesKaj> FOAD, so you installed the recommended driver in driver manager?
[11:35] <Antisound> Hello Ladies and Gentlemen
[11:36] <FOAD> BluesKaj: everything worked until a day ago, when I had to reboot and things turned to this.
[11:36] <Antisound> i really love to use kubuntu but now i've a serious question! U can read a lot about the future of kubuntu,... is there an offical statement how about the future of kubuntu?
[11:36] <osiris> hi guys !  how can i view in calendar the holidays. using k 15.04
[11:37] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: It is protected?
[11:37] <th3s3_3y3s_> BluesKaj, It can do it but there is no garuntee the data will retain as it doesn't do defrag.
[11:37] <FOAD> BluesKaj: I am quite lost...
[11:38] <BluesKaj> th3s3_3y3s_, this isn't windows.no defrag needed
[11:38] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Ext filesystems defrag themselves.
[11:38] <osiris> like in k 14.
[11:38] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Anyhow, I cannot see your paste as I do not have the passcode.
[11:38] <th3s3_3y3s_> If the data is at the end of the disk and pvresize sets the limits earlier its gone and doing so on root means the entire system gets junked
[11:39] <BluesKaj> FOAD, ok. have you updated and upgraded lately?
[11:39] <FOAD> I'm on 14.04...
[11:39] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, pls see privmsg containing the passcode
[11:39] <Antisound> No offical statement?
[11:39] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: That is why your resize the filesystem first.
[11:39] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, What handles resizing lv's?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> yes  FOAD I use 14.04 as well, and an upgrade came down yesterday
[11:40] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Ah, now I understand. This is why I never make lv's larger than they need to be.
[11:40] <FOAD> I did the update/upgrade thing this morning.
[11:41] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Resize your root-fs to somewhat larger than is used. Then resize the lv to the same size. Enlarge swap, recreate the swap filesystem en voila.
[11:41] <BluesKaj> FOAD, have you done a dist-upgrade?
[11:41] <th3s3_3y3s_> This is why I chose LVM for better resizing doing so with real partitions created some discrepencies in the MBR and things started getting ugly.
[11:41] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Filesystem: resize2fs, logical volume: lvresize
[11:41] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Anyhow as this is your rootfs this cannot be done live.
[11:42] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Boot a live-cd or something resize from there.
[11:42] <th3s3_3y3s_> Yes I have the install cd which boots with the added gparted.
[11:42] <FOAD> Yes; "no packages will be installed", etc.
[11:42] <th3s3_3y3s_> So if it cannot be done live then testing out the package kvpm is going to be useless.
[11:43] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: You can live extend not reduce. So if you keep lv's the bare minimum you can allways extend them if they need more.
[11:43] <th3s3_3y3s_> Does gparted properly handle the filesystem resize then lv resize?
[11:43] <th3s3_3y3s_> I do not want to resize the pv.
[11:43] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: I never use gui tools to do disk things.
[11:44] <th3s3_3y3s_> Oracle linux come with something that did ok.
[11:44] <th3s3_3y3s_> Looked like something made by an UCLA student.
[11:44] <BluesKaj> FOAD, can get proper res with just oner monitor
[11:45] <th3s3_3y3s_> There was some confusion with the term physical volume.
[11:45] <th3s3_3y3s_> As it really isn't used in the way intended.
[11:45] <FOAD> No, I cannot choose any other resolution.
[11:45] <th3s3_3y3s_> Physical Volume is a partition.
[11:45] <th3s3_3y3s_> And not a physical volume.
[11:46] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: The terminology is quite sane, a physical volume is a physical volume.
[11:46] <th3s3_3y3s_> No it is a partition on a physical volume.
[11:46] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: A pv can easily be a disk, no need for partitions.
[11:46] <th3s3_3y3s_> There is still a boot partition.
[11:46] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: In your case...
[11:47] <th3s3_3y3s_> I work with th3s3_3y3s_ a lot.
[11:48] <th3s3_3y3s_> What 2 step does the disk need now?
[11:48] <lordievader> What?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> FOAD, check sysem settings>driver manager again to see which drivers are available
[11:49] <th3s3_3y3s_> I am going to move the boot partition to an sdcard so calling it a physical volume is valid.
[11:49] <th3s3_3y3s_> gparted can do it just fine.
[11:50] <FOAD> Hm, it is using 340.93 but it also has 346.96 available, which it says is recommended...
[11:50] <th3s3_3y3s_> So mounting it with Disks and then running resize2fs and lvresize
[11:50] <th3s3_3y3s_> What about expanding the pv after moving the boot partition?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> use the recommended 346, FOAD
[11:51] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: I'm confused...
[11:51] <FOAD> Okay.
[11:52] <th3s3_3y3s_> pv = physical volume aka LVM partition, lv = logical partition aka "map" then there is the filesystem.
[11:52] <th3s3_3y3s_> this is why you get confused
[11:53] <FOAD> Done.
[11:53] <th3s3_3y3s_> The filesystems werent designed to be on logical or virtual disk spaces
[11:53] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Yes, because of your own terminology, please stick to the normal terminology.
[11:53] <th3s3_3y3s_> The norm causes eras.
[11:53] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: And I am confused because I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish.
[11:54] <th3s3_3y3s_> Make a bigger swap space to enable hibernation.
[11:54] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: I already told you how to do that...
[11:54] <BluesKaj> FOAD, reboot
[11:54] <th3s3_3y3s_> If I were to have used encrypted LVM the confusion gets greater and the filesystem becomes junk.
[11:54] <FOAD> Okay.
[11:54] <FOAD> BRB.
[11:54] <th3s3_3y3s_> It works though. And with prelinking makes quite a dream.
[11:54] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: No it doesnt...
[11:55] <th3s3_3y3s_> Sure if you want data that is not veritas.
[11:56] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: I use luks and lvm, no problem.
[11:57] <th3s3_3y3s_> And youve tested all data to write perfectly and retain?
[11:57] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: Well, I'm not reading garbage.
[11:57] <FOAD> I rebooted; sadly there is no change in resolution; Display and Monitor does not offer any more alternatives than before.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> FOAD, run nvidia-xconfig in the terminal
[11:59] <FOAD> I only have nvidia-detector and nvidia-settings.
[11:59] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, Sure I'm typing.
[12:00] <lordievader> th3s3_3y3s_: What? What are you talking about...
[12:00] <th3s3_3y3s_> What you are reading.
[12:00]  * lordievader is getting more and more confused with this conversation
[12:01] <BluesKaj> FOAD, let me switch to 14.04 ...I'll bb in a min
[12:04] <FOAD> Re BluesKaj.
[12:06] <th3s3_3y3s_> lordievader, The confusion that comes when confronted with veritas is due to unsafe presumptions.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> FOAD, do you have nvidia-xserver-settings in kmenu>apps>settings?
[12:07] <FOAD> Yes.
[12:07] <FOAD> Started it.
[12:08] <Antisound> can nobody tell me how it's going on in the future with kubuntu?
[12:09] <lordievader> Antisound: I believe it is still rather uncertain.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> FOAD, ok, in xserver dispaly configurations , click on "detect displays"
[12:09] <Antisound> lordievader: thats an answer anyway ;-)
[12:09] <FOAD> ...I do not have that option. :(
[12:10] <FOAD> Just "Application Profiles" and "nvidia-settings Configuration".
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Antisound, 16.04 is in the works
[12:10] <BluesKaj> 15.10 is almost ready
[12:10] <Antisound> BluesKaj: ok but because of all the internal differences in the team, i want to know about the more far future ;-)
[12:11] <lordievader> There ain't a trello board for 16.04 yet.
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Antisound, afaik  Blue Systems will continue to support Kubuntu, but the confusion around the personell on the kubuntu council and it's relationship with the ubuntu council and canonical is still very cloudy.
[12:15] <Antisound> BluesKaj: but that blue systems will support it in the future is save... and the developement?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> development is the still upin the air personell wise
[12:16] <BluesKaj> err personnel
[12:17] <Antisound> ok
[12:17] <Antisound> than lets have a look
[12:17] <Antisound> thx for the information
[12:21] <FOAD> Any more ideas, BluesKaj?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> FOAD, you don't have these options like I have here ? http://imagebin.ca/v/2IYtCSGBy7Qo
[12:24] <FOAD> I do not, just the bottom 2 lines.
[12:24] <FOAD> I also appear not to have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> FOAD, did you run the command I posted earleir , sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:29] <FOAD> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[12:30] <BluesKaj> FOAD, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file anymore by default on kubuntu
[12:30] <FOAD> Oh.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> FOAD, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras and mesa-utils
[12:34] <FOAD> Yes and no.  Just installed mesa-utils.
[12:34] <FOAD> Still no nvidia-xconfig.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> FOAD, which kernel are you running ? do uname  -a in the terminal
[12:37] <FOAD> Linux diana 3.13.0-65-generic #106-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 2 22:08:27 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:38] <BluesKaj> aha, the latest is 3.16.0-50-generic  FOAD
[12:39] <FOAD> Okay..
[12:39] <FOAD> The latest what?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> kerenel
[12:40] <BluesKaj> kernel even
[12:40] <FOAD> Okay.  So what would the next step be?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> make sure you have the backports enabled in your sources.list FOAD
[12:41] <FOAD> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-backports main restricted universe m
[12:41] <BluesKaj> then run sudo apt dist-upgrade...linux diana, what's that?
[12:41] <FOAD> ultiverse
[12:41] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[12:41] <FOAD> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:41] <lordievader> FOAD, BluesKaj: He has the latest kernel.
[12:41] <FOAD> diana is my pc.
[12:42] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic trusty-updates
[12:42] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic trusty-backports
[12:42] <BluesKaj> odd, because mine is the 3.16.0-50-generic
[12:42] <lordievader> FOAD, likely doesn't have the HWE enabled.
[12:42] <lordievader> !hwe
[12:43] <lordievader> That is outdated information...
[12:44] <BluesKaj> !info linux-generic trusty
[12:44] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid trusty
[12:45] <FOAD> The whatnow.
[12:45] <lordievader> Would be the latest... Not really necessary unless there is a kernel feature you really need.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> !info linux-generic trusty-backports
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hmm
[12:47] <BluesKaj> well, his nvidia settings app isn't the full version ...thinking some of the nvidia kernel modules are missing
[12:51] <FOAD> Okay.
[12:51] <FOAD> How do I get them back, or something?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> lordievader, should he install 3.16.0-50-generic. I'm not clear on that ?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> FOAD, make sure you have dkms installed first
[12:54] <FOAD> "dkms is already the newest version."
[12:57] <BluesKaj> FOAD, I have to check something ...bbiab
[12:57] <FOAD> Okay.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> FOAD, install 3.16.0-50-generic ,if you want the low latency kernel install 3.16.0-50
[13:03] <FOAD> sudo apt-get install 3.16.0-50-generic?
[13:04] <FOAD> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.16.0-50-generic?
[13:05] <FOAD> Is that it?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> FOAD, yes
[13:07] <FOAD> Okay.
[13:08] <FOAD> Done.
[13:10] <BluesKaj> okupdate and upgrade
[13:12] <FOAD> Okay.
[13:17] <lordievader> No, I wouldn't install 3.16/3.19 unless he is missing some crucial kernel function. But I don't think he does.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> FOAD, after that, reboot toi see if the missing modules load with this kernel
[13:18] <BluesKaj> lordievader, too late
[13:18] <FOAD> Eh.
[13:18] <lordievader> Also it is better to install the meta package than the actual versioned package.
[13:19] <lordievader> !info linux-image-generic-lts-utopic trusty
[13:19] <lordievader> ^ that one, in this case.
[13:19] <FOAD> Should I install that?
[13:22] <lordievader> I'd purge the 3.16 kernel first then install that meta package. Else the versioned package will never be removed by apt's autoremove.
[13:23] <FOAD> Okay.
[13:25] <FOAD> Rebooting now.
[13:28] <FOAD> Re.
[13:28] <FOAD> Okay.
[13:28] <FOAD> Now what..
[13:38] <FOAD> I still do not have an nvidia-xconfig.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> FOAD, check kmenu>apps>settings>nvidia-xserver
[13:44] <FOAD> Same as before.
[13:51] <Xavier> Salut =
[13:51] <lordievader> FOAD: I'd reinstall the nvidia driver and see if you have the nvidia-xconfig utility then.
[13:51] <Guest92927> Question
[13:52] <Guest92927> Kubuntu utilise quel bureau ? LXDE ou KDE ?
[13:52] <lordievader> !fr | Guest92927
[13:52] <Guest92927> Kontact a l'air super
[13:54] <FOAD> Okay.
[13:56] <FOAD> What is the difference between nvidia-346 and nvidia-346-updates?
[13:56] <Guest92927> Question: Is Kubuntu using KDE or LXDE ?
[13:57] <FOAD> I picked nvidia-346.
[13:57] <FOAD> Guess I should reboot again?
[13:59] <lordievader> Guest92927: KDE, hence the K in Kubuntu.
[13:59] <lordievader> !info nvidia-346 trusty
[14:00] <lordievader> !info nvidia-346-updates trusty
[14:00] <lordievader> FOAD: There doesn't seem to be any difference between the two.
[14:00] <FOAD> Okay.  Reboot?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> lordievader, the 346 driver, not the updates
[14:01] <lordievader> BluesKaj: What?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> there is a difference, the updates driver tends to fail IME
[14:06] <BluesKaj> the recommended driver is more stable...the  updates is early adoption of  changes to that particular driver, hence less stable
[14:07] <FOAD> No nvidia-xconfig.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> yes, but do you have more options now in the nvidia settings gui
[14:10] <FOAD> No.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> run uname -r again
[14:13] <FOAD> 3.16.0-50-generic
[14:16] <BluesKaj> that's weird , open system settings>desktop effects>advanced tab> composting type and Qt graphics system ...what settings do have there?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> FOAD,^
[14:17] <FOAD> XRender and Native.
[14:18] <th3s3_3y3s_> What is your end goal?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> set them to OpenGL 3.1 and raster
[14:19] <FOAD> Okay.
[14:20] <FOAD> "3 Desktop effects could not be loaded."  They require OpenGL..
[14:20] <BluesKaj> in satll mesa and mesa-utils
[14:20] <BluesKaj> install
[14:21] <FOAD> Unable to locate package mesa
[14:23] <BluesKaj> that's odd, mesa-utils must be the whole package now
[14:23] <FOAD> That one I already installed.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> FOAD, install libqt4-opengl and nvidia-settings
[14:28] <lordievader> Oeh, nvidia-xconfig is probably in that package.
[14:28] <FOAD> Already have those installed.
[14:28] <lordievader> Hmm
[14:31] <BluesKaj> makes no sense that there's no opengl option, how old is this nvidia card FOAD ?
[14:32] <FOAD> A few years old.  Maybe 3.
[14:32] <FOAD> Everything used to work fine.
[14:33] <lordievader> FOAD: Since when does it not work anymore? What changed?
[14:33] <FOAD> Since Wednesday.  I rebooted for the first time in a while.
[14:33] <lordievader> FOAD: What updates were installed Tuesday/Wednesday?
[14:34] <FOAD> And since amazingly my internet connection stopped working the same day I couldn't ask about this before today.  That was fun.
[14:34] <lordievader>  /var/log/apt/history.log ;)
[14:34] <FOAD> Nothing there from before today.
[14:35] <lordievader> That is really strange.
[14:35] <lordievader> Does a new account have the same problem?
[14:35] <FOAD> I don't know.
[14:35] <lordievader> FOAD: Create a new user and try ;)
[14:36] <FOAD> Okay.  BRB.
[14:41] <FOAD> Doesn't make any difference.
[14:42] <lordievader> Hmm, could you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[14:42] <FOAD> Sure.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> what could be missing there lordievader?
[14:43] <lordievader> No idea.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> this makes no sense , the default nvidia settings should include OpenGL in system settings..it's like his install is only partial
[14:46] <FOAD> http://pastebin.com/uy3GmbS7
[14:47] <FOAD> But the nvidia driver isn't active at all if I understand http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/ correctly.
[14:47] <lordievader> FOAD: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA'?
[14:47] <FOAD> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GT 640] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 83f9
[14:47] <FOAD> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 83f9
[14:49] <lordievader> Is that the full output?
[14:50] <FOAD> Yes.
[14:50] <lordievader> Well there is the problem. The driver ain't loaded.
[14:50] <FOAD> Okay.
[14:50] <lordievader> FOAD: Please pastebin your dmesg log.
[14:53] <FOAD> http://pastebin.com/CjM3pLPC
[14:55] <lordievader> Is this a hybrid system?
[14:55] <FOAD> A what now.
[14:57] <lordievader> FOAD: Two graphics cards, one integraded and one dedicated. "init: nvidia-prime main process (1285) terminated with status 127"
[14:58] <lordievader> BluesKaj: The nvidia driver ain't loaded.
[14:58] <FOAD> I... don't know.  I just use the thing. :/
[14:59] <lordievader> FOAD: What happens when you run 'sudo modprobe nvidia' (after stopping lightdm)
[15:00] <FOAD> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[15:00] <lordievader> Hehe... How did you reinstall the nvidia package?
[15:01] <FOAD> sudo apt-get something.
[15:01] <lordievader> FOAD: Could you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia'?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> FOAD, no you were supposed to use the driver manager to install the recommended nvidia driver
[15:03] <FOAD> Okay.  Sorry.
[15:03] <FOAD> Now what.
[15:04] <lordievader> FOAD: Could you pastebin the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia'?
[15:04] <FOAD> Yes, after reboot.  BRB.
[15:04] <lordievader> Why reboot?
[15:04] <FOAD> sudo -i reboot
[15:04] <FOAD> Because I am confused and messed up, okay.
[15:07] <FOAD> lordievader: http://pastebin.com/VrQhtgpk
[15:09] <lordievader> FOAD: Ok, run 'dpkg -l|grep tcpdump|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get purge'
[15:10] <lordievader> FOAD: Ok, run "dpkg -l|grep tcpdump|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get purge"*
[15:11] <FOAD> Eh.
[15:11] <FOAD> The following packages will be REMOVED: tcpdump*
[15:11] <FOAD> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[15:11] <FOAD> After this operation, 1,124 kB disk space will be freed.
[15:11] <FOAD> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort.
[15:11] <FOAD> It aborts without any interaction on my behalf.
[15:12] <lordievader> Err that 'tcpdump' should be 'nvidia' ;)
[15:12] <FOAD> I wondered.
[15:12] <lordievader> FOAD: Ok, run "dpkg -l|grep nvidia|awk '{print $2}'|xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"*
[15:12] <FOAD> Okay.
[15:13] <FOAD> Done.
[15:15] <lordievader> FOAD: Could you paste the output of 'dpkg -l|grep nvidia' again?
[15:15] <FOAD> It returns nothing.
[15:15] <lordievader> FOAD: Good :)
[15:15] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It was the 346 right?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:16] <lordievader> FOAD: sudo apt-get install nvidia-346
[15:17] <BluesKaj> or he could use the driver manager
[15:17] <lordievader> It does the same thing.
[15:17] <FOAD> Done.
[15:17] <lordievader> FOAD: Then reboot.
[15:17] <FOAD> Okay.
[15:17] <FOAD> BRB.
[15:20] <FOAD> Re.
[15:20] <lordievader> FOAD: Any change?
[15:20] <FOAD> No.
[15:20] <lordievader> FOAD: 'sudo modprobe nvidia' still fails?
[15:21] <FOAD> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[15:21] <FOAD> I'm in lightdm now if that matters.
[15:21] <lordievader> Heh, is dkms installed?
[15:22] <FOAD> I don't know.
[15:22] <lordievader> dpkg -l|grep dkms
[15:22] <FOAD> ii  bbswitch-dkms                               0.7-2ubuntu1                             amd64        Interface for toggling the power on nVidia Optimus video cards
[15:22] <FOAD> ii  dkms                                        <IP_ADDRESS>-1.1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>               all          Dynamic Kernel Module Support Framework
[15:22] <FOAD> ii  fwts-efi-runtime-dkms                       14.03.01-0ubuntu2                        amd64        Firmware Test Suite UEFI Runtime Service kernel driver
[15:22] <lordievader> It's installed.
[15:23] <lordievader> I'm wondering if the dkms module failed to install. Do you recall any dkms errors when installing the driver?
[15:23] <FOAD> Nope.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> dkms was installed previously, he checked
[15:25] <lordievader> This might be at play: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/769055/dkms-fails-to-compile-nvidia-modules-340-32-343-13-during-kernel-3-16-1-compile-process-on-debia/
[15:26] <lordievader> FOAD: Is build-essential and make installed too?
[15:26] <lordievader> Oeh, what is the output of 'dkms status'?
[15:28] <FOAD> Those are installed.
[15:28] <FOAD> dkms status
[15:28] <FOAD> bbswitch, 0.7, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:28] <FOAD> fwts-efi-runtime-dkms, 14.03.01, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:28] <FOAD> nvidia-346, 346.96: added
[15:28] <FOAD> vboxhost, 4.2.26, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:28] <lordievader> That added should likely be installed.
[15:29] <FOAD> That seems to make sense.
[15:29] <lordievader> I guess 'sudo dkms install nvidia-346'.
[15:30] <FOAD> Error! Invalid number of arguments passed.
[15:30] <FOAD> Usage: add <module>/<module-version> or add -m <module>/<module-version> or add -m <module> -v <module-version>
[15:32] <BluesKaj> yah, that's to be aexpected , I got the same output with the 340 driver which is the recommended one for my card
[15:32] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Added state, you mean?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> no "Error! Invalid number of arguments passed
[15:34] <lordievader> I suppose dpkg would call it aswell, FOAD could you give the output of 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-346'?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> it rebuilds the modules, corrct, lordievader?
[15:36] <FOAD> Stopping nvidia-persistenced
[15:36] <FOAD> nvidia-persistenced: no process found
[15:36] <FOAD> Done.
[15:36] <FOAD> Removing all DKMS Modules
[15:36] <FOAD> Done.
[15:36] <FOAD> INFO:Enable nvidia-346
[15:36] <FOAD> DEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/put_your_quirks_here
[15:36] <lordievader> Not exactly, it rebuilds dkms modules.
[15:36] <FOAD> DEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/lenovo_thinkpad
[15:36] <FOAD> DEBUG:Parsing /usr/share/ubuntu-drivers-common/quirks/dell_latitude
[15:36] <lordievader> !paste | FOAD
[15:36] <FOAD> Loading new nvidia-346-346.96 DKMS files...
[15:36] <FOAD> Building only for 3.16.0-50-generic
[15:36] <FOAD> Building for architecture x86_64
[15:36] <FOAD> Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[15:36] <FOAD> kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[15:36] <FOAD> Sorry.
[15:37] <lordievader> Arch wiki to the rescue. "dkms install -m nvidia -v 334.21 -k $(uname -r)" https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support
[15:37] <lordievader> FOAD: Anyhow what does dkms status say now?
[15:37] <FOAD> bbswitch, 0.7, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:37] <FOAD> bbswitch, 0.7, 3.16.0-50-generic, x86_64: built
[15:37] <FOAD> fwts-efi-runtime-dkms, 14.03.01, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:37] <FOAD> fwts-efi-runtime-dkms, 14.03.01, 3.16.0-50-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:37] <FOAD> nvidia-346, 346.96: added
[15:37] <FOAD> vboxhost, 4.2.26, 3.13.0-65-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:37] <FOAD> vboxhost, 4.2.26, 3.16.0-50-generic, x86_64: installed
[15:37] <FOAD> I screwed something up.
[15:38] <lordievader> FOAD: Hmm, run 'sudo dkms -m nvidia -v 346.96 -k $(uname -r)' I guess.
[15:38] <lordievader> Also provide us with the output ;)
[15:38] <FOAD> No output.
[15:39] <lordievader> Any change in the dkms status output?
[15:39] <FOAD> No.
[15:39] <lordievader> FOAD: Would it be the initramfs... sudo update-initramfs -uk all
[15:40] <BluesKaj> lordievader, wonder if the nouveau driver should be blacklisted...never had to but in this case  who knows
[15:40] <FOAD> sudo update-initramfs -uk all
[15:40] <FOAD> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-50-generic
[15:40] <FOAD> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-65-generic
[15:41] <lordievader> BluesKaj: It is blacklisted, else that would have been loaded and it isn't.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> IC
[15:41] <lordievader> FOAD: When you are done reboot.
[15:42] <lordievader> But speaking of blacklisting... would both have been blacklisted?
[15:42] <lordievader> FOAD: Can you check what is in /etc/modules/blacklist.conf?
[15:42] <lordievader> Where does nvidia put its nouveau blacklist anyways?
[15:43] <FOAD> /etc/modules is a file.
[15:44] <FOAD> I will reboot now.
[15:47] <lordievader> Wait, wut. /etc/modules should be a folder
[15:47] <BluesKaj> lordievader, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[15:47] <FOAD> Re.
[15:47] <lordievader> Oh wait, I'm mixing it up with modprobe.d
[15:47] <lordievader> FOAD: That should have been, what is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[15:47] <FOAD> There is nothing about nouveau or nvidia in that file.
[15:48] <lordievader> FOAD: Any other files in /etc/modprobe.d?
[15:48] <FOAD> Sure, lots.
[15:49] <lordievader> cat /etc/modprobe.d/*
[15:50] <FOAD> http://pastebin.com/1FY0sWVf
[15:50] <BluesKaj>  /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf has the nouveau driver blacklisted
[15:52] <lordievader> Oh what fun, both nouveau and nvidia are blacklisted...
[15:52] <lordievader> FOAD: grep nvidia -Rn /etc/modprobe.d/*
[15:54] <FOAD> http://pastebin.com/Y4jYYJD7
[15:55] <lordievader> FOAD: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf /root && sudo update-initramfs -uk all
[15:56]  * BluesKaj wonders if  "blacklist nvidia" blacklists all nvivia drivers, but I don't see the 346 driver listed
[15:57] <FOAD> Okay.
[15:58] <FOAD> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-50-generic
[15:58] <FOAD> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-65-generic
[15:58] <FOAD> Is what it did.
[15:58] <lordievader> FOAD: Good, reboot ;)
[15:58] <FOAD> BRB.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> wonder what could have generated this mess, afterall everything was fine up to last week
[16:00] <FOAD> Re.
[16:01] <lordievader> FOAD: And?
[16:01] <FOAD> I don't see any difference.
[16:02] <lordievader> Hmpf, does 'lspci -k|grep -A3 VGA' show any difference?
[16:02] <FOAD> No.
[16:03] <lordievader> dkms status, still lists it as 'added'?
[16:04] <FOAD> Yes.
[16:07] <lordievader> Hmpf...
[16:07]  * lordievader is going afk, dinner
[16:07] <FOAD> Okay.
[16:07] <FOAD> Thanks for the help so far.
[16:12] <BluesKaj> FOAD, pastebin /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[16:14] <FOAD> No such file!
[16:14] <FOAD> I've got a nvidia-346_hybrid.conf if that helps.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> FOAD, do you have hybrid graphics , intel and nvidia?
[16:15] <FOAD> I have no idea.  lordievader said something about it too.
[16:16] <FOAD> But I don't know.  Sorry.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> is this a laptop or desktop
[16:17] <FOAD> Desktop.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> then hybrid graphics is unlikely
[16:18] <BluesKaj> ok, pastebin nvidia-346_hybrid.conf
[16:21] <FOAD> http://pastebin.com/Z5KyiVMt
[16:23] <BluesKaj> FOAD, wonder if you removed nvidia-346 and reinstalled xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[16:23] <FOAD> Nope.
[16:24] <FOAD> Not recently at least.
[16:25] <BluesKaj> what I mean is , I wonder if that might work for now 'til we can find the real peoblem
[16:25] <FOAD> Oh okay.
[16:25] <FOAD> I can do that.
[16:26] <BluesKaj> gotta go in a few mins...our band has a practice/jam this afternoon
[16:26] <FOAD> Okay, cool.
[16:26] <FOAD> Have fun. :)
[16:26] <FOAD> And thanks for the help so far.
[16:27] <BluesKaj> np , hope the nouveau driver works for you, it's actually quite good
[16:52] <lordievader> FOAD: To use the nouveau driver purge any nvidia driver. (And check if there is no blacklist nouveau going on in /etc/modprobe.d)
[17:48] <nitogenac> hello everybody :)
[17:48] <nitogenac> i have an question
[17:49] <nitogenac> why when i want to install a new fresh Kubuntu over this, it every time stops at the beggining of Installation saying Creating system files and then just freezes on 33%
[17:50] <nitogenac> and it not formaat this partition, and dont touch this version of Kubuntu :s
[18:07] <dricce> help
[20:39] <dajomu> Hi, I am running kubuntu 15.10 and I wonder if anyone knows why Dolphin cannot find my samba share. I get the error message "unable to find any workgroups on your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall"
[20:59] <allen> Hi, 2 questions about Kubuntu 15.10  beta... 1) launching a program starts the window minimized. Is there a way to have windows appear normally, not minimized. 2) With the default theme is there a way to increase contrast of the task manager text? It's a bit hard to read.
[21:05] <ubernoob> hi! anyone know how to remove entries from from the grub bootloader? also.. my Ksplash is not showing up anymore. any ideas? (kubuntu 15.10) thanks!
[21:29] <mparillo> ubernoob: I like https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer but it looks as if there is no v version yet.
[21:30] <ubernoob> mparillo: i tried to install that and it will not install ;/
[21:31] <mparillo> Believe it or not, I installed vivid on a different partition and ran grub-customizer on it.
[21:31] <ubernoob> LOL
[21:32] <ubernoob> mparillo: thats not a bad idea!
[21:35] <mparillo> There is good information here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Configuration but last time I used Arch, I could not even install x. But maybe you are capable.