[00:00] <caryjebus>  is there a progam for mounting ISOS in linux
[00:00] <vom> caryjebus: mount foo.iso /mnt/iso -o loop
[00:00] <Haza> caryjebus:
[00:00] <engineer> sm7xab /etc/init.d/X11 restart
[00:00] <Neuer> both are. This is also a fresh install of hardy. Like I said i had a similar prob with feisty but got it to work. With hardy it just doens't want to.
[00:00] <Haza> dammit vom. you were too quick for me :)
[00:00] <sm7xab> caryjebus: mount -o loop -t iso9660 .iso /mount/point
[00:01] <shane__> does anyone know the answer to a ? can i burn a dvd avi movie on to disk as new data dvd and play it on my tv will this work?
[00:01] <Neuer> to bring it more closer, I have the SI7012 Soundchip and the saa7134 TV-Card and I guess something is interfeering with them 2
[00:02] <engineer> shane__ yes
[00:02] <sm7xab> engineer: /etc/init.d/X11 doesn't exist. Closest thing is x11-common  (which doesn't seem to do anything and kdm which seems to restart X and enter failsafe mode. Nah, guess I'
[00:02] <shane__> engineer: TY so i can fit like 6 movies on 1 disk and play them all
[00:02] <vom> Haza: heh, sorry, too much coffee today i think
[00:03] <sm7xab> Guess I'll give a few more days and then kill this thing of and return to Gentoo :-/
[00:03] <engineer> sm7xab /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[00:03] <Haza> vom: I know that feeling mate :)
[00:03] <engineer> shane__ does your dvd player read divx?
[00:03] <sm7xab> engineer: kdm stop only shuts down X as far as I can tell.
[00:04] <Haza> question. does ssh timeout?
[00:04] <engineer> sm7xab so what did you wnt?
[00:04] <engineer> Haza yes
[00:04] <Haza> So close the terminal and open a new connection?
[00:05] <engineer> exit
[00:05] <engineer> exit will close connection
[00:05] <engineer> process runnin in bg will stay open
[00:05] <Haza> engineer: I couldn't even type in the terminal window =/
[00:06] <Haza> It just *froze* if you will
[00:06] <engineer> then connection is closed already
[00:06] <shane__> engineer: yes
[00:06] <Haza> Its not a huge problem like. I was just wondering :)
[00:06] <gokorn> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop do i do this or a fulll upgrade? to get kde 4
[00:06] <gokorn> ?
[00:07] <engineer> ye
[00:08] <shane__> engineer: Odd-rationale ok TY's i got it workin good
[00:08] <engineer> shane__ if it can read then i don't see how burning the videos in won't be played there
[00:10] <JuJuBee> I tried to install msttypefonts using adept and it did not work, but it claims it is installed.  I cannot uninstall either... Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:11] <shane__> engineer: i just burned 2 avi to dvd in new data dvd itl be done soon so ill try it i think it will and if not then its only a dvd
[00:13] <BluesKaj> shane_ , it'll work , just click on the "file" when the menu comes up on the screen if you're using a stand alone dvdp
[00:14] <zommes> is this channel right for some advice on Kubuntu?
[00:14] <SlimeyPete> yes.
[00:14] <zommes> ok, well I can't get my sound to work on a powerbook
[00:15] <JuJuBee> Fixed the lock problem, but now I still cannot uninstall/purge it   Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:15] <BluesKaj> I'm in the process of coverting avi (divx) to mpeg for mother in law , she's not too well versed in the dvd menu thing so she can just point and play :)
[00:16] <zommes> BluesKaj: what do you use to convert it?
[00:16] <BluesKaj> zommes, tovid
[00:17] <BluesKaj> i could use ffmpeg  too, I guess
[00:17] <zommes> ty
[00:17] <zommes> ok
[00:18] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg is very good in the cli , faster than tovid
[00:39] <dwidmann_laptop> Wow, awful dead in here this evening
[00:40] <jals> yup
[00:40] <hotpocket> hello
[00:40] <dwidmann_laptop> hi
[00:40] <r2b2> do you know of a tool that can fix bad sector in my hard disk?
[00:40] <hotpocket> r2b2: did you try defragmenting?
[00:41] <hotpocket> that usually helps me
[00:41] <r2b2> defrag? how can i do that in linux?
[00:41] <DarkriftX> how do i find out where ff3 installed itself to?
[00:41] <hotpocket> uh i know how to do it in windows, do you want me to find out for you?
[00:41] <DarkriftX> i downloaded a newer version which works better and want to replace it (newer ver is not an installer, just the files) and cannot find where it installed to
[00:41] <Colonel_Panic> ok I removed and reinstalled the Flash plugin but I'm still getting the same problem
[00:42] <hotpocket> r2b2: are you in kubuntu?
[00:42] <engineer> DarkriftX unpack it into your home dir
[00:42] <r2b2> yes
[00:42] <r2b2> hotpocket : yes..
[00:42] <jals> DarkriftX, 'which firefox' in terminal
[00:42] <DarkriftX> ahh
[00:43] <r2b2> hotpocke: its easy in windows, in kubuntu i stil have to find out
[00:43] <hotpocket> hmm, i guess you dont need to in linux
[00:43] <hotpocket> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/15032.html
[00:43] <engineer> man badblocks
[00:44] <hotpocket> i think i might have found your solution ri2b2
[00:44] <hotpocket> r2b2*
[00:44] <hotpocket> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/hard-disk-bad-sectors-402283/
[00:46] <r2b2> hotpocket: thanks mate!
[00:46] <r2b2> i'll try this out
[00:46] <hotpocket> your welcome
[00:46] <hotpocket> tell me if it works
[00:46] <hotpocket> i sure hope so
[00:47] <hotpocket> was that what you are looking for?
[00:47] <Colonel_Panic> it doesn't work in Konqueror either...
[00:47] <r2b2> yes,i think so.. finding bad blocks and not using them
[00:47] <Colonel_Panic> I was thinking it might be a Forefox problem but apparently it's not...
[00:47] <hotpocket> ok
[00:48] <hotpocket> thats not good
[00:48] <r2b2> why not?
[00:48] <engineer> Colonel_Panic try using flash 10 in fox 3
[00:49] <Colonel_Panic> how do I do that?
[00:49] <BluesKaj> !plugins
[00:49] <BluesKaj> !info plugins
[00:51] <DarkriftX> ok, so i found where the "firefox-3.0" bin was, which was a shell script that ran another shell script and ran an executable file.... was a confusing load of crap, so i uninstalled that one
[00:51] <DarkriftX> now i have the newer "firefox 3" package which is all the files in an archive. ive unarchived them and I can run it from where it is, but is that the best way?
[00:52] <bittin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JtHDkM9JhM&feature=related :)
[00:52] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, look for libflash-mozplugin, and don't forget java
[00:55] <Colonel_Panic> which java packages should I install?
[00:56] <engineer> sudo apt-get instal sun-java6-plugin?
[00:57] <Walzmyn> What app would ya'll suggest for editing MPEGs?
[00:58] <Colonel_Panic> ok I already have the latest version asnd I'm still having te same problem
[00:58] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, add this repos to your adept/synaptic/apt or sources.list , deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[00:58] <Colonel_Panic> I've even disabled all the Firefox extensions just in case there was some sort of conflict there
[00:59] <willi_ballenthin> Walzmyn: maybe look into cinelerra?
[00:59] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, then sudo apt-get update
[00:59] <willi_ballenthin> its not kde, but i believe its pretty popular for linux
[00:59] <gkffjcs> how do I make a backup or copy of my kde wallet? I am about to re-install and want to make sure that I have a copy of my kde wallet for when I log back in.
[00:59] <gkffjcs> ?
[00:59] <DarkriftX> i was told not to do that bacause im on 7.10
[00:59] <Walzmyn> willi_ballenthin, thankye. i've tried kino but it choaks on opening the files.
[00:59] <Colonel_Panic> BTW, when I removed and reinstalled the Flash plugin, it installed version 9, not 10
[01:00] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, ok, whoever told you is right , sorry, I assumed you were on Hardy
[01:00] <DarkriftX> i havent upgraded because things are working great and i was told the "dist upgrade" fails regularly
[01:00] <DarkriftX> i dont want to do a new install if i can help it
[01:01] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, did you see my post above ?
[01:01] <Colonel_Panic> yes
[01:01] <hotpocket> darkriftx: you want to upgrade to 8.04, am I correct?
[01:02] <DarkriftX> kinda
[01:02] <hotpocket> whats the problem?
[01:02] <DarkriftX> if i can do it without losing what I have
[01:02] <Colonel_Panic> I already had the latest Java, and when I removed, then reinstalled libflash-mozplugin, it downloaded and installed flash 9 plugin for mozilla
[01:02] <DarkriftX> well.... actually the problem isnt really a problem
[01:02] <hotpocket> i think there was a way
[01:02] <hotpocket> wait
[01:02] <root> lavate ese culo
[01:02] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, mine worked very well ... some adjustments had to be made afterwards tho
[01:02] <DarkriftX> i installed the beta firefox (very old)
[01:02] <hotpocket> there is a way to make a live cd out of your current install
[01:02] <hotpocket> if that would help at all :V
[01:02] <DarkriftX> and i wanted to use the newer one, but it doesnt come as an installer, it comes as a package of all the files
[01:02] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, that's one of them
[01:03] <DarkriftX> so someone told me how to do it if i was using hardy
[01:03] <DarkriftX> which is what lead to this convo
[01:03] <Walzmyn> willi_ballenthin, i'm not finding cinelerra in the repositories, didja spell it right?
[01:03] <Colonel_Panic> Think maybe I have to uninstall Firefox 3 and step back down to the older version I was using before
[01:03] <Colonel_Panic> ?
[01:04] <Colonel_Panic> BluesKaj, I don't get what you mean
[01:05] <Colonel_Panic> what do I have to do?
[01:05] <willi_ballenthin> Walzmyn: yeah, doesnt look like its there
[01:05] <willi_ballenthin> i know ive installed it before, but it must have been from their website
[01:05] <willi_ballenthin> hmm
[01:05] <Colonel_Panic> OK I downloaded the tar.gz of the Flash 10 player
[01:05] <willi_ballenthin> Walzmyn: they have a repo
[01:05] <willi_ballenthin> http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[01:07] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, install sun-java-plugin
[01:08] <Colonel_Panic> E: Couldn't find package sun-java-plugin"
[01:09] <jals> any methods of getting suspend to work if it doesn't out of the box?
[01:10] <hotpocket> jals: suspend doesn't work?
[01:10] <jals> hotpocket, well, it suspends, maybe, but doesn't return from suspend
[01:11] <hotpocket> wow
[01:11] <hotpocket> uh
[01:11] <hotpocket> did you try hibernate?
[01:11] <hotpocket> does that work?
[01:11] <jals> no
[01:11] <hotpocket> try that and see if it works
[01:11] <hotpocket> its similar to suspend
[01:11] <jals> ...
[01:11] <hotpocket> what?
[01:11] <jals> i just said it doesn't
[01:11] <hotpocket> oh ok
[01:11] <hotpocket> sorry
[01:11] <jals> np
[01:11] <jals> just was confused
[01:11] <hotpocket> did you use a live cd or wubi install?
[01:11] <jals> i installed with the live cd
[01:12] <hotpocket> hmm, i don't know why it wouldn't work
[01:12] <hotpocket> never heard of that problem before
[01:12] <jals> it didn't in gutsy either
[01:12] <jals> really? i think it's a common problem
[01:12] <hotpocket> no
[01:12] <hotpocket> works fine for me
[01:12] <hotpocket> i don't know, I'm kinda new to ubuntu myself, but i know a lot about it and how to use it
[01:12] <Colonel_Panic> has anybody else had this problem beforez?
[01:12] <Colonel_Panic> *before*
[01:13] <r2b2> what problem is it sorry ..
[01:13] <jals> i googled a lot when i had gutsy but gave up
[01:13] <jals> seems it's an issue for many people
[01:13] <nainef> in konqueror, is there a way to have it use detailed list view by default?
[01:13] <nainef> cause icon view will end me
[01:15] <Walzmyn> willi_ballenthin, thank you. Sorry i skipped out, had to save the dog from a rainstorm
[01:15] <hotpocket> good
[01:15] <hotpocket> is the doggy wet?
[01:15] <willi_ballenthin> haha np
[01:15] <willi_ballenthin> im sorry i have to go get grocerys, but gl with the mpegs
[01:17] <r2b2> can i have dhcp service,internet sharing, and samba all in just one server?
[01:17] <Colonel_Panic> well, I installed the new Flash 10 plugin but I'm still getting the same problem
[01:18] <hotpocket> what problem?
[01:18] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, not yet, but the thunder was driving him up the wall
[01:18] <hotpocket> ah
[01:18] <Colonel_Panic> flash videos only play for a few seconds, then stop
[01:19] <Colonel_Panic> sometimes they only play for a fractin of a second
[01:19] <Colonel_Panic> *fraction*
[01:20] <r2b2> what version of firefox are you using? i have firefox 2 and flash is working fine
[01:20] <hotpocket> firefox 3 here and everything is fine
[01:21] <jals> so i hit suspend, it seems to suspend, then when i hit my mouse button it does a cold boot
[01:21] <jals> as if i'd shut down
[01:21] <jals> any ideas/
[01:21] <hotpocket> hmm
[01:21] <r2b2> i had firefox 2 and 3 before but i uninstalled firefox 3 because im having problems with some addons, particularly firebug
[01:21] <hotpocket> r2b2: use nightly tester tools to remove compatability issues
[01:21] <hotpocket> on firefox 3
[01:21] <r2b2> what's nightly tester tools, sorry?
[01:22] <r2b2> well i guess i just have to wait for the official firefox 3 ..
[01:22] <hotpocket> no
[01:22] <Colonel_Panic> it looks like the connection to the streaming data is getting term,inated after a short period of time
[01:23] <hotpocket> download firefox 3 again, install nightly tester tools, click remove compatibility, and when you install an extension that says its not supported, click force install
[01:23] <r2b2> i c
[01:24] <terran4000> Hey all, does anyone know where I can find the cairo bindings for SVG in k/ubuntu? I'm told they are in librsvg, but some odd application that I need require 'libsvg-cairo' (which is annoying) ...
[01:28] <Colonel_Panic> what it "nightly teaser tools"?
[01:28] <hotpocket> tester*
[01:28] <Colonel_Panic> and can I use it with FF2?
[01:29] <hotpocket> it lets you test extensions to see how they work on firefox3
[01:29] <hotpocket> no
[01:29] <hotpocket> its firefox 3 only
[01:29] <hotpocket> =/
[01:29] <Colonel_Panic> oh I see
[01:29] <hotpocket> but it works really well for me
[01:29] <Colonel_Panic> well
[01:31] <Colonel_Panic> ...
[01:31] <Colonel_Panic> it says "Not compatible with Firefox 3.0"
[01:36] <hotpocket> when i am in the terminal, and there is the $ sign, does that mean I am root?
[01:36] <Colonel_Panic> goddamn it
[01:36] <Colonel_Panic> I kleep getting out of disk space errors whenever I try to do anything
[01:40] <Colonel_Panic> it says my root partition has 4.5 GB used, and it's supposed to be a 9.2GB partition
[01:40] <Colonel_Panic> how do I keep running out of disk space?
[01:41] <terran4000> Colonel_Panic: maybe it's not actually 9.2gb?
[01:41] <Colonel_Panic> it was when I created it
[01:41] <Colonel_Panic> and
[01:41] <terran4000> $ df -h
[01:42] <Colonel_Panic> I changed the mount point of my /home dir to make more room in there
[01:42] <Colonel_Panic> there should be at lead half a GB free
[01:42] <terran4000> do "df -h"
[01:43] <terran4000> Also, simply changing the mount point doesn't move any files ... so 'old' /home files might be left over there
[01:43] <Colonel_Panic> but I can't see it
[01:43] <Colonel_Panic> how can I delete those?
[01:44] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, did you get your terminal / root question answered?
[01:44] <terran4000> There MUST be a better way to do this but you shut down any programs you aren't using
[01:44] <terran4000> then umount /home
[01:44] <terran4000> then try: ls /home
[01:45] <terran4000> if anything shows up in there then (assuming umount worked)
[01:45] <terran4000> they probably shouldn't be there
[01:45] <terran4000> BUT be warned ... usually NOT a good idea to just randomly umount /home.
[01:45] <terran4000> Might be a better idea to boot into a live CD
[01:45] <terran4000> and then mount the root partition into a temp folder
[01:45] <Colonel_Panic> well I was trying to take a screenshot of Firefox to show you that it says Nightly Tester Tools is "Not compatible with Firefox 3.0"
[01:46] <hotpocket> no I didn't walzmyn
[01:46] <Colonel_Panic> but apparently I don't have enough free space to do a damn screenshot
[01:46] <terran4000> heh ><
[01:46] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, the $ just means that's where you type for the termial
[01:46] <terran4000> need a spare HD
[01:46] <terran4000> ?
[01:46] <terran4000> I got 12 spares >_>
[01:46] <hotpocket> does it m3ean im in root?
[01:46] <hotpocket> I want a spare hdd
[01:46] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, to the left of the $ will tell you who you are logged in as
[01:46] <hotpocket> terran4000: mail me one
[01:46] <hotpocket> i know
[01:46] <hotpocket> how do i know if im logged in as root?
[01:47] <Colonel_Panic> I launched filelight as kdesu
[01:47] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, if you've just made a normal install, you are not, because root is not set up
[01:47] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, but it would say something like hotpocket-root@computername$
[01:47] <hotpocket> oh ok
[01:47] <hotpocket> whats the advantages of root?
[01:48] <Colonel_Panic> do you think this disk space issue is causing the problem with the streaming media, too?
[01:48] <Walzmyn> ubntu uses the sudo app instead of an acttuall root account
[01:48] <terran4000> Root is God.
[01:48] <hotpocket> oh ok
[01:48] <terran4000> And if you play God you're in trouble
[01:48] <terran4000> Thus, only use sudo
[01:48] <hotpocket> i guess im in trouble :P
[01:48] <Colonel_Panic> you can seriously eff up your installation as root
[01:48] <Walzmyn> root can do anything it wants to the computer including fook it competely up
[01:48] <hotpocket> oh ok
[01:48] <Colonel_Panic> it's a safety measure
[01:48] <hotpocket> so, it will say root?
[01:49] <Walzmyn> that is one of the primary reasons linux is superiour to winders - the default is to be a normal user and you assumn admin privilidges only when you need to
[01:49] <Colonel_Panic> better than doing it the Windows way and making OS-level functions completely transparent
[01:49] <terran4000> Colonel_Panic: streaming media isn't 'really' streaming, it has to buffer a bit (usually in memory) but if it buffers to disk then yeah ... could be troublesome
[01:49] <Colonel_Panic> that's what I'm thinking
[01:49] <Colonel_Panic> if the buffer fills up real quick (say, after a second or two) then it will just stop
[01:49] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, yes, i do not have one i can look at right quick, but if you swithced users to root, it would say root in the CLI line there.
[01:50] <BluesKaj> helps to have a larger pipe than std dsl
[01:50] <Colonel_Panic> so how can I take care of this issue?
[01:50] <terran4000> deltree c:\
[01:50] <hotpocket> oh ok
[01:50] <hotpocket> thanks
[01:50] <terran4000> Colonel_Panic: first things first
[01:51] <tekgeeklt> quick question ... anyone know why a fresh install would have trouble with not being able to resize any window? I see the little arrows when I go to the edge of any window but it won't let me resize
[01:51] <Colonel_Panic> BluesKaj, my connection is fast cable
[01:51] <terran4000> Colonel_Panic: try $ df -h
[01:51] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, what are you trying to do that you want root privileges for?
[01:51] <terran4000> and see what it says for used%
[01:51] <hotpocket> oh nothing
[01:51] <hotpocket> i was gonna install some new compiz plugins and it said not to be logged in as root
[01:51] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, good ...video needs at least 300kbs (real speed)
[01:52] <Walzmyn> by-the-by this whole user permissions thing is the reason Winders Vista is having so many issues. It is actully trying to do things right, but so many winders apps have been written to assumn God access that they cannot work with vista
[01:52] <Colonel_Panic> this is unbelievable
[01:52] <hotpocket> what?
[01:52] <terran4000> ?
[01:52] <Colonel_Panic> I just uninstalled the game Alien Arena because it's a huge filesystem hog
[01:52] <Walzmyn> hotpocket, that's what the sudo command is for
[01:53] <Colonel_Panic> and the YouTube video is still not working
[01:53] <Walzmyn> su == switch user (no user name means 'root')
[01:53] <hotpocket> oh ok
[01:53] <hotpocket> thanksw
[01:53] <hotpocket> thanks*
[01:53] <bittin> su = super suer
[01:53] <bittin> *user
[01:53] <Walzmyn> Colonel_Panic, have you tried rebooting to clear out anything that's running / tkaing up memory?
[01:54] <Walzmyn> bittin,  I thought the terminal command su meant switch user?
[01:54] <hotpocket> what DOES sudo mean?
[01:54] <bittin> super user do
[01:54] <hotpocket> o_O
[01:54] <Walzmyn> ah, my mistake
[01:54] <Colonel_Panic> ok I just deleted the alien-arena data, which frees up about half a GB
[01:55] <Walzmyn> same principle, though :)
[01:55] <Colonel_Panic> ok I'm going to reboot
[01:55] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, which FF are you using ?
[01:55] <Walzmyn> is there a way to set the default app for a file type to a program running in wine?
[01:56] <Colonel_Panic> but I have to find a way to address the / partition space issue
[01:56] <Colonel_Panic> Firefox 3
[01:56] <terran4000> Colonel_Panic: Try booting into a live CD, then mounting the root partition and seeing is there is any useless clutter
[01:59] <terran4000> Anyone know where libsvg-cairo lives in ubuntu?
[02:00] <compilerwriter> Could someone please explain to me the workings of the window manager and the desktop environments?
[02:00] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[02:00] <Colonel_Panic> http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7480/screenshotce0.png
[02:01] <Colonel_Panic> there. see?
[02:01] <Colonel_Panic> I have tried restarting Firefox about 10 times
[02:02] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, it's not compatible ...it says so in the ad
[02:02] <Colonel_Panic> well I was told to use it in FF3 to diagnose my problem
[02:02] <BluesKaj> nope , won't work
[02:03] <am_> hey guys, i have installed the kde4 packages for beta1 and i have KDM4  running , but i am unsure how to add kde4 to kdm as a session option
[02:03] <BluesKaj> FF3 is still in development , so it may be a few weeks before it'll work
[02:03] <Walzmyn> am_ it should have done so automaticlly
[02:04] <am_> Walzmyn: unfortunately it hasn't. the kde4 apps still work fine in kde3
[02:04] <BluesKaj> FF3 final is supposed to be out this month ..sometime
[02:04] <am_> so its installed correctly
[02:04] <am_> just hasn't given me an option
[02:04] <Colonel_Panic> and for some reason I can't uninstall all my add-ons
[02:04] <Colonel_Panic> I was going to try that just in case
[02:04] <am_> i don't mind adding it myself, i just need to know where to look
[02:04] <Colonel_Panic> the uninstall button is always greyed out
[02:04] <jtisme> how do i tell mplayer my default audio device is /dev/dsp
[02:04] <Walzmyn> am_, i'm not sure, google it
[02:05] <Colonel_Panic> I'm just going to reboot
[02:05] <jtisme> /dev/dsp is not one of the audio choices in mplayer preferences
[02:05] <Colonel_Panic> jesus this is almost as bad as dealing with Windows
[02:05] <Colonel_Panic> biab
[02:05] <compilerwriter> Perhaps BluesKaj I oversimplified my question.  What I would like to know is what is wm responsible for doing?  How does it interact with the desktop environment?  Kind of the kernel and the shell thing only with wm and de.
[02:07] <BluesKaj> it manages which desktop environment you're using and the apps installed in that environment
[02:07] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, AFAIK the windows manager is what makes the actual windows floating around and sends GUI signels from them to whatever backend is associated with them
[02:07] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, the DE using the WM plus other apps to make a complete system to work with
[02:08] <compilerwriter> So the it is the wm that is telling the computer that I am logged in oh a dozen or more times, and then it treats each window as a sort of terminal instance?
[02:08] <stdin> compilerwriter: window manager is responsible for managing the windows, it gives them borders and controls and allows you to specify which to give focus to
[02:09] <stdin> each time you login, one window manager instate in run for that session
[02:10] <compilerwriter> It then also manages what then I see on the display file?
[02:10] <compilerwriter> So if I were to log in terminal only I would not fire up a window manager at all?
[02:10] <stdin> a window manager needs an X session to run on
[02:10] <terran4000> yes to the second.
[02:11] <stdin> it has nothing to do with files, just windows for applications
[02:11] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, yes, you'd be just like my server upstairs which could just about have the monitor removed
[02:12] <compilerwriter> So then it is X that tells the computer I am logged in a dozen times.  The window manager then manages all the windows in the X session?
[02:12] <stdin> no, X doesn't tell the system how many times you're logged in
[02:13] <stdin> when you login you start a shell, that then runs X, the WM and everything else
[02:15] <Walzmyn> why are you logged in a dozen times?
[02:15] <stdin> one X session and 11 shells, easy ;)
[02:15] <compilerwriter> Well since my computer fires up a sort of windowed login and I don't start X manually.  I would guess that there is some sort of shell that is running that I log into that forks another shell and an X-session that then has a WM and DE of its own?
[02:15] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, wikipedia might be able to explain this better than we are
[02:16] <stdin> compilerwriter: yeah, KDM actually starts a shell and runs a script (that then starts X for you) and does the rest
[02:16] <stdin> same goes for GDM/XDM
[02:17] <Colonel_Panic> OK well the streaming video appears to be OK now...
[02:17] <Tonren> I'm on Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1, and my printout is REALLY REALLY slow.
[02:17] <Colonel_Panic> but to fix this disk space issue, should I boot to a LiveCD?
[02:17] <compilerwriter> Walzmyn when I do a who -ra it shows that user LOGIN is running on tty1-6 Since I am the only person logged into my machine I suppose I am those six people.
[02:18] <Tonren> It set it up and configured everything instantly, but the page and printer only move once every 10 seconds or so.
[02:18] <Colonel_Panic> What can I do from a live CD to correct the situation>
[02:18] <Colonel_Panic> wouldn't a partitining tool be a better option?
[02:18] <stdin> compilerwriter: LOGIN is not a user
[02:19] <stdin> compilerwriter: it's the "command" that's listens on a TTY for a username/pass to start a shell for you
[02:19] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, you just went over my head, but i think LOGIN is an application, not a user
[02:19] <Walzmyn> yeah, what stdin said.
[02:20] <Colonel_Panic> and I cannot enable or disable, or uninstall any firefox extensions either
[02:20] <Colonel_Panic> it keeps telling me the extension will be enabled/disabled when Firefox restarts, but when I restart Firefox nothing happens
[02:21] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, search for GParted partition editor , burn it and run it as a live cd to setup or edit the partitions ...it's my fav
[02:21] <Colonel_Panic> OK lemme try that.
[02:25] <compilerwriter> So the window manater literally just manages the windows that I have opened?  It requires and X session in order to do the job?  So where does compiz come in to the equation.  Is it the window manager?
[02:25] <Colonel_Panic> any ideas on the Firefox addons problem?
[02:25] <Walzmyn> compiz is a windows manager that replaces kwin (KDE's manager) and adds in a bunch of eye candy
[02:25] <stdin> compilerwriter: yep, compiz is a window manager, a compositing enabled window manager
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, most addons won't work on a development browser like FF3
[02:25] <Walzmyn> except i think they changed the name when compiz and beryl re-merged.
[02:25] <Colonel_Panic> and there's no way to step back down to Firefox 2?
[02:25] <stdin> Colonel_Panic: there is
[02:25] <compilerwriter> Yes I am likeing some of the eye candy, I like flipping my cube about.
[02:25] <stdin> Colonel_Panic: just install firefox-2
[02:25] <Colonel_Panic> some of them were working  fine only yesterday
[02:25] <BluesKaj> yes, you can go into adept and remove ff3 and reinstall ff2
[02:25] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, the expose` feature was my favorite when i had it on my desktop
[02:25] <compilerwriter> Some of the  effects don't seem to be working as I thought they would though.  I also had to disable all 3D screensavers to get round a display freeze up problem a few days ago.
[02:25] <compilerwriter> Walzmyn what is the expose feature
[02:25] <Colonel_Panic> it wont work
[02:25] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, open  3 or 4 windows and press F8
[02:25] <Colonel_Panic> it says "firefox 2 is already the newest version"
[02:25] <nylt> Hi - I'm wanting to create a simple slideshow that will show photographs, and play music in the background.  Are there any good linux tools for doing this?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Colonel_Panic, did you remove ff3 first ?
[02:26] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, compiz is an unfinished product, but it's got promise. My old distro had it setup very nice. Kubuntu seems to leave it for you to do most of the setup and i didn't have the patcience.
[02:26] <Walzmyn> nylt, have you tried openoffice?
[02:27] <nylt> Walzmyn: i've tried ooimpress, but the file sizes seemed to get really large
[02:28] <Walzmyn> nylt, ok. I've never done a slideshow, OOo would be my only guess.
[02:28] <compilerwriter> walzmyn isn't compiz the default on Hardy Heron?  Or was it just sort of upgraded because I was playing with it on Gutsy when the upgrade came through?
[02:29] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, no, the default will always be Kwin it's part of KDE
[02:29] <Walzmyn> compilerwriter, but you can easily enable it.
[02:29] <Lmnbv> Hello everybody! I need some help! I have set up my 5.1 system, but movie and audio programms are using only the 2 front. I configured settings to 5.1 output without any results. Can anybody help me? What's the matter?
[02:36] <Colonel_Panic> is there a way to just manually delete all the add-ons?
[02:36] <Colonel_Panic> and start over fresh?
[02:36] <MachinTrucChose> Colonel_Panic: that's more Firefox-centric. Try asking in #firefox on irc.mozilla.org.
[02:36] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, try kparted
[02:37] <MachinTrucChose> Walzmyn: I have Gparted already. Doesn't show anything. Qparted won't launch for some reason.
[02:37] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, are you trying to dual boot the computer?
[02:37] <MachinTrucChose> Gparted shows the size only
[02:37] <MachinTrucChose> Walzmyn: that's right.
[02:38] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, hmm, i've always found it easier to install windows first.
[02:38] <MachinTrucChose> too late now :(
[02:38] <MachinTrucChose> is there some Wubi equivalent for Windows, perhaps?
[02:38] <MachinTrucChose> so I can install Windows without messing up my Kubuntu stuff?
[02:38] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, windows is quite picky
[02:38] <Walzmyn> wubi?
[02:39] <MachinTrucChose> Wubi is that new Windows-friendly installer in Hardy. It lets you install K/Ubuntu without modifying partitions, it just creates a big file in Windows and uses that as a virtual filesystem.
[02:39] <MachinTrucChose> !wubi
[02:39] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, what kinda machine you running (speed, ram)?
[02:40] <MachinTrucChose> Pentium E2140 (dual core), 2Gb of RAM.
[02:40] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, and do you want to play games on the windows partition?
[02:40] <MachinTrucChose> Walzmyn: yeah, the only reason I'm doing this is to play a game I just got.
[02:40] <MachinTrucChose> couldn't get it to work in Wine
[02:40] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, oh well, I was going to point you to virtualbox.
[02:41] <MachinTrucChose> Walzmyn: Yeah if it was just some app I would've used a virtual machine.
[02:41] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, i dunna then bud. I know windows is real picky about installing. Basicly you have to fool it into thinking it's the only OS on the box
[02:41] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, what game?
[02:41] <MachinTrucChose> Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
[02:41]  * Walzmyn nods
[02:41] <MachinTrucChose> Boycotted the last 2 games in the series, but now I'm back...with a vengeance!
[02:42] <MachinTrucChose> at least I want to. Stupid Windows won't install.
[02:42] <Lmnbv> How can I set up my player programs? plz help
[02:42] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, haha. I never heard of it. Never been big on sports type games. I'd rather go outside and play the real thing
[02:43] <MachinTrucChose> I could say the same about FPS.
[02:44] <Walzmyn> MachinTrucChose, you'd rather go out and shoot people for real?
[02:44]  * Walzmyn grins
[02:45] <MachinTrucChose> hehe
[02:46] <Lmnbv> Somebody help me?
[02:46] <_2> Lmnbv the second door on the left   --->
[02:46] <Walzmyn> Lmnbv, i've no idea, try some forums
[02:46] <_2> says "men" on the door you can't miss it.
[02:47] <_2> oh did he already ask a valid question.   sorry, i just got here.
[02:47] <corinth> Firefox only opens un-maxamized for me, and only just recently started doing it. Suggestions?
[02:47]  * arriesp bye
[02:48] <_2> corinth yes that's the way it's designed.
[02:48] <Lmnbv> _2 very funny.......
[02:48] <mefisto__> corinth: have you changed window decorations recently?
[02:48] <Walzmyn> I thought apps were supposed to remember how they were closed?
[02:48] <corinth> mefisto__: No.
[02:49] <_2> corinth i get/got around it by resizing it to almost max,  and closing it.   that way it's not quite max'd cause they set it to not open maximized.  but it is still the same size.
[02:49] <_2> Lmnbv like i said.  i didn't see your question.    would you like to repete it for me ?
[02:50] <juan_> hola
[02:50] <juan_> como se hace videoconferencia en ubuntú?
[02:51] <corinth> _2: This has never happened for me before, though. o_O
[02:51] <Walzmyn> !es | juan_
[02:51] <juan_> ok, thanks
[02:51] <_2> corinth </shrugs>
[02:51] <Walzmyn> hope that helped you, I've no idea what it said
[02:52] <_2> basicly it said join  #kubuntu-es  for spanish help
[02:53] <MachinTrucChose> he wanted to do videoconferencing.
[02:53] <MachinTrucChose> !videoconferencing
[02:54] <Walzmyn> somewhere on the net is a website with pictures of funny signs - my favorite is "this machine does not have a brain, you will have to use your own"
[02:55] <Haza> Walzmyn: Heheh
[02:56] <Haza> Walzmyn: If you find it let me know. I could use that sign on the computers at the office
[02:57] <Walzmyn> Haza as far as I remember, it was a homemade sign
[02:57]  * Walzmyn steps outside
[02:57] <Haza> Walzmyn: Looks like it. Can't find it on google
[03:02] <tempb0y> hi all. has anyone had any luck installing kubuntu on dell poweredge 1950?
[03:02] <shane__> in terminal what comand do i use to see what version of kubu 8.0 i think im kde4 but im not sure
[03:03] <_2> lsb_release -R
[03:03] <_2> or -r
[03:04] <_2> or -a for all lsb info
[03:04] <shane__> ok whats the rest of the comand
[03:05] <_2> there is no "rest of the comand"   what do you mean ?
[03:05] <shane__> in terminal i wright just -r or lsb_release -R
[03:07] <_2> lsb_release -r
[03:07] <shane__> ok i have 8.4
[03:08] <shane__> is ther a way to tell if its kde4 or kde3
[03:11] <myk_robinson> anyone use NetworkManager to VPN? I have established my VPN connection, but how do i access exported resources? I am trying to help a friend test his openvpn setup
[03:11] <_2> open konqueror, help about shane__
[03:12] <_2> or maybe kwin* --version
[03:13] <azzco> How does one extract a lmza file?
[03:14] <myk_robinson> there should be an lmza app in the respoitory. Install it, them i think Ark can extract it
[03:14] <Haza> Walzmyn: http://www.hazamonzo.co.uk/files/warning_sign.png
[03:14] <crimsun> azzco: lzma -d
[03:15] <solo> can someone tell me how to ( in kopete ) how to make it show the persons picture in the chat window??
[03:15] <Walzmyn> haza looks good, you make it?
[03:15] <azzco> solo: that's for the styles, you can have the persons photo in the toolbar aswell though
[03:15] <Haza> Walzmyn:  I found the basic sign and added the text
[03:15] <solo> how?
[03:16] <Walzmyn> haza, nice
[03:16] <udyrfrykte> setting>configure>contack list> use contact photos when available
[03:16] <Haza> Walzmyn: Cheers :)
[03:17] <azzco> thanks crimsun, worked it out with that command.
[03:17] <solo> udyrfrykte> ok now how do i get it in the chat windows?
[03:18] <solo> azzco> what do you mean for the styles??
[03:19] <Darlok_Williams> Is there an alternative to F-Spot that actually gives the user the power to change the way it works?  I'm specifically looking for a way to use /home/Pictures/ for my entire family's photo collection (sharing the database between all users on the local computer)...
[03:20] <azzco> solo: main kopete window, Settings, Configure, Appearance, Chat Window, Get hot new stuff
[03:22] <GatewayPIITux> Kubuntu is so slow!
[03:22] <GatewayPIITux> How can I speed it up?
[03:22] <dbglt> GatewayPIITux: buy more ram
[03:23] <udyrfrykte> thats a very general question
[03:23] <tekgeeklt> well if you are running a p2 it will be slow heh
[03:24] <udyrfrykte> hey, If I install kubuntu on a dell inspiron 1525N (the model that comes with ubuntu 7.10) will I run into any problems?
[03:25] <tekgeeklt> try it out with the live cd before you install
[03:26] <tekgeeklt> if you are going to dual boot it .. then there will be no problems
[03:26] <GatewayPIITux> I have 48MB of RAM. Is that enough?
[03:26] <tekgeeklt> hahaha
[03:26] <GatewayPIITux> I got it with 16
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> GatewayPIITux- probably not, especially for KDE or Gnome
[03:26] <tekgeeklt> you have to have a minimum of 128megs of ram for it to work okay
[03:27] <GatewayPIITux> Anyway, Firefox takes almost three minutes to start.
[03:27] <tekgeeklt> you need at least 256 and a good video card to get the graphics to work okay
[03:27] <dbglt> GatewayPIITux: 48mb? Yeah... I wouldn't be usng kde, to be honest
[03:27] <GatewayPIITux> I have 166 MHz Pentium.
[03:27] <_2> tekgeeklt i run a p1 100mhz and kde is not slow here.
[03:27] <dbglt> GatewayPIITux: ....
[03:27] <dbglt> no you don't
[03:27] <dbglt> ;p
[03:27] <tekgeeklt> yea if your not using for all kinds of nifty neat stuff it will work
[03:27] <GatewayPIITux> Yes, it is a Gateway Solo. Is that a good model?
[03:28] <tekgeeklt> but its memory that really counts for loading stuff
[03:28] <udyrfrykte> does anyone know if the inspiron 1420N will support desktop effects?
[03:28] <tekgeeklt> GatewayPIITux: your computer is over 10 years old
[03:29] <tekgeeklt> for 300 bux you can get a good 2ghz computer to run
[03:29] <GatewayPIITux> I was able to fix the bad LCD by swapping it. I took me eight hours but now it runs great!
[03:29] <GatewayPIITux> Should I go back to NT 4?
[03:29] <udyrfrykte> thats with the 128MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS
[03:29] <GatewayPIITux> I only paid $200
[03:29] <tekgeeklt> no you should get more ram
[03:30] <GatewayPIITux> Also, the battery is very hot.
[03:31] <tekgeeklt> well if its a laptop you are going to pay more for what you get
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> GatewayPIITux- I don't think a P2 system is ever going to run any desktop environment at a useable speed
[03:31] <GatewayPIITux> Should I use my 800MHz PIII Gateway Solo instead?
[03:31] <tekgeeklt> I paid 500 for my core 2 duo 1.6ghz  1gig of ram 80gig hard drive  Lenovo
[03:32] <tekgeeklt> but I have found that the best place to pick up used computers is from craigslist
[03:32] <udyrfrykte> Overall with a case and everything it's $850. 2 gb ram, 120 gb HD, it's pretty nice
[03:32] <Dhraakellian> I appear to have run out of space on /boot
[03:33] <GatewayPIITux> Craigslist is dangerous.
[03:33] <tekgeeklt> craigslist is not dangerous .. its the only place you can get stuff locally and you are able to check it out before you buy it
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> especially the personals :) lol
[03:33] <Dhraakellian> would the best course of action be to uninstall all but the latest version of linux-image-2.6.xx-yy-generic?
[03:33] <tekgeeklt> ebay is worse cause you buy stuff and you don't know anything about it
[03:34] <tekgeeklt> but the new asus eee pc laptops selling for 300 bux are running linux with an 800/900mhz processor
[03:34] <tekgeeklt> thats 300 bux brand new for a laptop
[03:34] <udyrfrykte> the eee is nice if it's not your default computer
[03:35] <KrimReaper> can any1 tell me how i can configure usb inernet ? or even ethernet inernet ?
[03:35] <tekgeeklt> they have a solid state drive so its all perm memory
[03:35] <GatewayPIITux> I like my IBM Thinkpad X41 Tablet, but it keeps crashing! :(
[03:36] <_2> KrimReaper ifconfig
[03:36] <tekgeeklt> I had issues with another OS so I loaded 8.04 last night to test it out but I am having just a couple of issues
[03:36] <GatewayPIITux> Usually crashes at the IBM logo or during Windows installation.
[03:36] <_2> KrimReaper or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:36] <tekgeeklt> crashes during the load would most likely be a memory issue
[03:36] <_2> KrimReaper or use knetwork manager
[03:36] <GatewayPIITux> tekgeeklt: Also, mouse goes to top of screen when CPU gets hot.
[03:37] <tekgeeklt> since none of the software is loaded you have cpu, memory and video working an nothing else
[03:37] <KrimReaper> ty
[03:37] <tekgeeklt> if its a laptop I would have it cleaned out cause people don't do that and they heat up alot
[03:38] <GatewayPIITux> Okay, brb
[03:38] <JuJuBee> I installed kde4.1 and now when I try to logout, the computer freezes (or seems to) screen goes blank and after 20 min I have to 3 finger salute.  Any suggestions?
[03:39] <tekgeeklt> one issue I am having with my computer is that I only get 3 virtual desktops so I get a triangle when I use my 3d box
[03:39] <tekgeeklt> I try to change that and it just resets back to what it was
[03:42] <_2> JuJuBee there may be a bug report on that,  did you check the forums   and ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:43] <heinkel_111> how can i find out which processes needs stopping in order to unmount /home
[03:45] <_2> fuser ?     but i would sujest that it's probably your shell
[03:46] <_2> if any user is logged in then /home is probably in use.
[03:47] <_2> run sudo openvt -fc 12     logout all and press ctrl+alt+f12   use that console to umount /home
[03:47] <_2> might add -- su -     on the end of the openvt command
[03:48] <tekgeeklt> is there a way to turn off compiz fusion for a minute to test something and then turn it on again without haveing to go through all the settings again?
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> tekgeeklt- kwin --replace and compiz --replace
[03:49] <tekgeeklt> thank you
[03:50] <tekgeeklt> I am having issues with the four virtual desktops ... I had 2 when I first installed kubuntu and then I installed compiz-fusion and now i have 3 not 4 and I can't change it .. it keeps getting reset to 1.. but 3 show up
[03:51] <tekgeeklt> and I can't resize any windows ... it shows that I can but it does not work ... those are pretty much the only two issues I am having so far
[03:53] <notplus_M> I just installed that EeeUbuntu thing and am currently trying to switch from Gnome to KDE.  I got kubuntu-desktop installed but now I am trying to uninstall gnome.  I tried sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop but that didn't seem to work.  Is there a metapackagefor all gnome-specific apps that I can just remove?
[03:54] <Dragnslcr> tekgeeklt- make sure that KDE's System Settings is set for one desktop, then use the Compiz settings for the cube
[03:54] <Haza> Any good recommendation for a VoIP client?
[03:55] <Haza> *recommendations
[03:56] <_2> !purekde
[03:56] <tekgeeklt> Dragnslcr: when I look at the configure desktops on kde it does show 1 desktop but I haven't been able to find it in compiz but I will check again
[03:57] <_2> notplus_M   ^  see ubottu
[03:58] <Dragnslcr> tekgeeklt- General -> Desktop Size
[03:58] <tekgeeklt> okay let me check
[03:58] <tekgeeklt> haha thats what I have been looking for since last night .. thank you
[03:59] <tekgeeklt> much better
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> Heh, no problem
[04:00] <tekgeeklt> now I just have to figure out if there is a setting for resizing any window ... pretty much everything else works other than programs I need to get stuff to work
[04:01] <Dragnslcr> I don't remember having that problem
[04:01] <tekgeeklt> yea I don't know what is going on with it .. I get the little arrow on the edge or corner of any window but it won't let me resize
[04:02] <tekgeeklt> I was running PClinuxOS for the past few months on all my computers which has some more direct ways to figure out stuff ... I installed this last night cause the wireless drivers would dump if I did any large transfers at all
[04:03] <tekgeeklt> I would watch a movie over the network and then it would stop after a few min and then I had to re initialize it
[04:03] <tekgeeklt> this one is alot more reliable
[04:09] <BluesKaj> tekgeeklt, what sort of media setup are you running a networked PVR etc ?
[04:11] <tekgeeklt> um not sure what you are asking?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> watching tv thru a media center
[04:12] <tekgeeklt> oh no
[04:12] <tekgeeklt> I download movies and put them on a samba share on my main file server and then I watch them or listen to mp3's on my laptop around the house
[04:13] <tekgeeklt> when I was running PClinuxOS  it would just kill the wireless card in a min or so
[04:13] <tekgeeklt> but works fine in windows and then I put the kubuntu live cd in and it worked okay so I installed kubunu
[04:13] <tekgeeklt> kubuntu
[04:14] <BluesKaj> right
[04:14] <tekgeeklt> it was just a driver issue but there was no updated driver for pclos
[04:15] <tekgeeklt> I am still a noob when it comes to linux but I can get it up and running and mostly configured
[04:15] <tekgeeklt> I just have been a computer tech for over 10 years I mainly do hardware and am not much into figuring out software
[04:16] <BluesKaj> I use a wired setup with a TiVo and and 2 PCs hooked to a router . I can transfer movies/videos ,music and photos between the devices
[04:16] <_2> mostly configured ?     ;/
[04:16] <tekgeeklt> haha
[04:17] <tekgeeklt> yea I don't know how to do any compiling or add programs without going to a site that shows you how to set it up without the package manager
[04:17] <tekgeeklt> I would like to get the dvr hooked up to the router here so I could go through all those shows
[04:17] <haryono_> why my pc hang many times?
[04:18] <tekgeeklt> when does it hang up?
[04:18] <DJG9282> Can any of you direct me on how i can give privledges to other users to use KPPP for some reason i click on the icon for the othe users it won't put the KPPP window up for dial up
[04:19] <haryono_> many times after  some process of open website or chating etc
[04:20] <haryono_> my pc hang up when i try to open website, chatting etc.Why?
[04:20] <BluesKaj> tekgeeklt, which pvr are you running?
[04:21] <tekgeeklt> dvr?   its just the basic cable company here
[04:21] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:21] <tekgeeklt> scientific altanta device for cox cable
[04:22] <BluesKaj> cat5/6 or some such out ?
[04:22] <_2> DJG9282 maybe add them to the "dialout" group ?   or edit /etc/sudoers and add them like this "ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:kppp"   then anyone can access kppp
[04:22] <tekgeeklt> I think there is one it does have a usb but its downstairs
[04:22] <_2> err wait. you don't use sudo for kppp my bad.
[04:23] <tekgeeklt> I could just get the model number and see online if there is any tweaks for it
[04:23] <BluesKaj> some of those outputs aren't connected to anything inside
[04:23] <_2> DJG9282 i'd say add to the dialout group  maybe.
[04:24] <tekgeeklt> its my roommate who has the huge plasma tv downstairs and the dvr hooked up to it .. they record shows all day on it
[04:24] <myk_robinson> does anyone have a definite fix for the hard drive load cycle issue yet?
[04:24] <DJG9282> hmm looked into that and i don't see a dial-up group
[04:27] <mefisto__> DJG9282: dialout not dial-up
[04:27] <_2> not dial-up  dialout
[04:27] <DJG9282> oh that either sorry...
[04:28] <DJG9282> neither are there in any groupings
[04:28] <_2> /exec -o grep dialout /etc/group
[04:28] <_2> say that back to me
[04:29] <DJG9282> what you just wrote?
[04:29] <_2> yep
[04:29] <DJG9282> could not find script it says
[04:29] <DJG9282> -o
[04:30] <_2> hm.  ok.  so new konvo can't handle simple command structure
[04:30] <_2> well in a terminal     grep dialout /etc/group
[04:30] <tekgeeklt> so I when I downloaded all the compiz-fusion and emerald .. I look in emerald and I don't see any themes at all...
[04:31] <tekgeeklt> is there a website where you can download new themes for emerald?
[04:31] <DJG9282> _2: it gives me a listing of all three users
[04:31] <tekgeeklt> when I had issues like this in pclos I had to go into the hardware settings and actually activate 3d for the gui and then everything looked better
[04:32] <tekgeeklt> but I haven't seen any 3d option like that
[04:32] <_2> DJG9282 ok then they are already there.    idk.
[04:32] <_2> DJG9282 in a terminal as the other user  run   kppp
[04:32] <DJG9282> hmmm you do find it strange then that it won't allow me to use KPPP for the other users then?
[04:32] <_2> see if it gives errors
[04:33] <DJG9282> ok i'll give it a shot thanks
[04:37] <Xavura> Anyone around?
[04:39] <Xavura> Anyone around?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> Xavura, just us germs
[04:39] <_2> no
[04:39] <Xavura> Not sure if that last message got through, it told me I had to register first
[04:39] <_2> then don't try to pm people
[04:39] <Xavura> I didn't.
[04:40] <Xavura> Ok well I have successfully stolen the HDD out of my Mother's computer, hooked it up to my PC and installed Kubuntu on it - huzzah.
[04:40] <Xavura> Now I just need to get the Internet working and it's proving a real pain the the ass.
[04:41] <Xavura> My router is connected to my PC via USB, someone told me it'd be easier if it was Ethernet but that's not an option
[04:41] <Xavura> + my router sucks, so where do I go from here?
[04:46] <Xavura> Anyone? Anything? I've been stuck for the last 2 hours with this.
[04:48] <epimeth> Xavura: didn't find anything on google?
[04:49] <Xavura> I ALWAYS search Google before asking anything, anywhere
[04:49] <Xavura> All I've found on Google, is that apparently routers connected via USB are *really hard* to set-up on Linux
[04:49] <Xavura> Nowhere have I found a way to actually do it.
[04:49] <epimeth> hmm
[04:49] <epimeth> what router do you have?
[04:49] <Xavura> BT Voyager 205 ADSL Router
[04:49] <Xavura> One of the worst ever made, I'm quite proud of it
[04:50] <Xavura> ...
[05:00] <[zEr0-x]> when I'm installing kubuntu, the installation stops at 82%.... anybody can help me ?
[05:01] <epimeth> Xavura: sorry buddy... I can't find anything either
[05:02] <BluesKaj> Xavura, use the ethernet cable instead of the usb for linux
[05:02] <Xavura> I CAN'T.
[05:02] <Xavura> Not a possibility as I said before.
[05:02] <BluesKaj> bummer
[05:03] <tekgeeklt> is this a laptop? or a desktop
[05:03] <Xavura> So Linux can't even connect to the Internet with a router connected via USB
[05:03] <BluesKaj> why not buy a cheapie ethernet hub like a linksys
[05:03] <Xavura> ...and everyone always told me how great it was
[05:03] <Xavura> Because I shouldn't have to
[05:03] <Xavura> plus I'm broke.
[05:03] <BluesKaj> hook the linksys to the ethernet input on the router
[05:04] <Xavura> I don't have a linksys.
[05:04] <tekgeeklt> the problem is the manufacturers don't bother making items that are supported for linux ... you usually have to pay more for network devices that will work with linu
[05:04] <tekgeeklt> linux
[05:04] <Xavura> Well that's pretty dumb.
[05:04] <tekgeeklt> yea it is
[05:05] <Xavura> So I've just wasted 6 hours getting the HDD working and installing Kubuntu, to have no Internet
[05:05] <Xavura> That's great.
[05:05] <BluesKaj> only for wireless , tekgeeklt ...most routers run linux right out of the box
[05:05] <Xavura> Mine isn't wireless.
[05:05] <Xavura> and it certainly isn't working out of the box
[05:05] <Xavura> Kubuntu doesn't even say anything when I plug the USB cable in
[05:05] <Xavura> Stupid...
[05:05] <[zEr0-x]> Xavura, havent' you try to find the driver at the manufacturer webpage ?
[05:06] <Xavura> I have
[05:06] <haryono> my RAM is 384 is it enough for running Linux Kubuntu and all application?
[05:06] <tekgeeklt> well yea hardwired they work fine ... but there is alot of network cards out there that are strickly for windows... they usually have less hardware on them and windows emulates it via software which is another stupid resource hog
[05:06] <Xavura> They only have drivers for Windows and Mac OS X
[05:06] <Xavura> Typical.
[05:06] <Xavura> There has to be something I can do, seriously... this is so retarded it's not even funy
[05:07] <Xavura> funny*
[05:07] <tekgeeklt> if the router had a cat 5 plug on it I would say buy a 10 dollar card and a 5 dollar cable
[05:07] <tekgeeklt> but then that defeats the idea you are trying to work on
[05:08] <BluesKaj> haryono, depends what apps you ...heavy video laden apps might run a bit slow
[05:08] <Xavura> It has a cat5 port
[05:08] <Xavura> and I have a cable
[05:08] <Xavura> but it's NOT an option
[05:08] <tekgeeklt> why is that not an option?
[05:08] <Xavura> The ethernet port on my PC won't work.
[05:08] <[zEr0-x]> You should have tryed kubuntu without installing
[05:09] <tekgeeklt> its not working .. I would try going into the bios and turn it on ... I have had mine turned off in my computer in the bios
[05:09] <BluesKaj> the ethernet port should be easy to setup , Xavura
[05:09] <tekgeeklt> but then you can buy a network card and plug that in
[05:09] <Xavura> Hmm
[05:09] <Xavura> I'm on Windows right now and
[05:09] <Xavura> I went to the device manager
[05:09] <haryono> My RAM is 384 is it enough for KDE Amarok and Kaffeine CD/VCD Player ?
[05:09] <Xavura> and to the network card
[05:09] <Xavura> and lo and behold
[05:09] <Xavura> "This device is not configured correctly. (Code 1)"
[05:09] <tekgeeklt> alot of times the built in network card is turned off in the bios if you have been using a usb or wireless to save resources
[05:10] <Xavura> I checked the bios
[05:10] <Xavura> It's on.
[05:11] <tekgeeklt> okay
[05:12] <Xavura> So...
[05:12] <Xavura> But I launched Terminal
[05:12] <Xavura> and typed ifconfig
[05:12] <Xavura> and it showed eth0
[05:12] <Xavura> so, doesn't that mean that the ethernet thing IS working?
[05:12] <BluesKaj> haryono, as long as you don't run anything else at the same time
[05:13] <Lichte> how do I keep Audacity from starting jackd on startup ??
[05:15] <tekgeeklt> eth0 is just saying ethernet port 0 I think ...
[05:15] <Xavura> Yeah but
[05:15] <Xavura> If the ethernet port was broken or not working
[05:15] <Xavura> it wouldn't show it, right?
[05:15] <tekgeeklt> yea
[05:16] <BluesKaj> yeah Xavura , you still have to configure the ethernet connection
[05:16] <Xavura> That doesn't matter
[05:16] <Xavura> Windows says my ethernet device is not working properly
[05:16] <Xavura> So I need to figure out why and fix it
[05:16] <tekgeeklt> you could try the dma and irq settings but windows should just see it
[05:16] <epimeth> Xavura: when you plug a cable in to the ethernet ports, does a light appear in each?
[05:16] <tekgeeklt> but fixing it in windows does not mean it will just work in ubuntu ...
[05:16] <haryono> BluesKaj  dont runing anything else u mean?
[05:17] <Xavura> Not sure epimeth
[05:17] <Xavura> The light on my router didn't glow
[05:17] <Xavura> and it should if it's connected
[05:17] <epimeth> yea
[05:18] <epimeth> are you sure there isn't anything wrong with the cable itself?  have you tried a different one?
[05:20] <BluesKaj> Xavura, the connection icon would indicate whether or not it's working
[05:21] <Xavura> The cable is fine
[05:21] <Xavura> I use it for my games console.
[05:26] <Lichte> how do I keep Audacity from starting jackd on startup ??
[05:47] <Lichte> how do I keep Audacity from starting jackd on startup ??
[05:55] <|Toad> my comptuer just updated it's intel 8xx/9xx video drivers, but i'm running amd/ati
[05:55] <|Toad> why is it updating intel drivers?
[05:56] <|Toad> i just got into a little quarrel with a buddy on how oses do update thier video drivers when updates come out but only video drivers they are using
[05:56] <|Toad> which makes sense
[05:56] <|Toad> but then what just happened?
[05:58] <Jucato> |Toad: basically the package manager will update anything that can be updated *if* it is installed. whether or not you're actually using those doesn't matter
[05:59] <|Toad> thats what i said
[05:59] <|Toad> but he said if it updated it, the computer must be using it
[05:59] <|Toad> but i dont take him seriously, because he's an apple faboy
[05:59]  * Jucato suggests your friend see a doctor...
[06:00] <Jucato> heh I have no idea how Apple updates stuff
[06:00] <Jucato> but that's how it is in most Linux distributions. I'm guessing what you saw updated was the generic intel drivers that come with all basic Kubuntu installatios (the free intel drivers)
[06:01] <|Toad> that's exactly what i said
[06:01] <|Toad> it came with the installation
[06:01] <|Toad> and it keeps everythign up to date
[06:01] <|Toad> it makes sense, if adapt sees it as installed, when an update comes out, it will tell me about it
[06:02] <|Toad> i told him thaat all oses have basic core drivers for all types of hardware, not just the ones you need
[06:02] <|Toad> the plug and play model wouldn't work otherwise
[06:03] <|Toad> thank you Jucato for proving me right
[06:04] <Jucato> |Toad: if he argues why Kubuntu installs stuff you don't need, well tell him that Kubuntu is made to install and work on almost any hardware combination as much as possible
[06:04] <Jucato> (try doing that with a OS X! :P)
[06:07] <|Toad> i tried using os x-86 on this laptop
[06:08] <|Toad> it couldnt find the hard drivve
[06:08] <|Toad> i bet it'd work on my 'server' though
[06:08] <|Toad> that has a 915 chipset
[06:08] <|Toad> but it's currently running xp pro
[06:08] <|Toad> and thats fine with me
[06:15] <frybye> Hi - I can -see- the diff. resources of my 2 x pc's in the Smb4K network browser but when I try and access soemthing on the other pc I get a fault report saying error 2 -mount error and refering mt to man mount.cifs - which has about 50 pages of stuff i dont understand..
[06:16] <frybye> apparently the directories (listed in Smb- as drives -) need to be mounted - how?
[06:18] <frybye> hmmm nothing but lag and netsplits here today or what.. hmmm
[06:22] <frybye> how do i mount drives that are on another pc so I can have access to them with smb???
[06:24] <frybye> jeez - when is this netsplit going to finnish....?
[06:28] <kde4> 3
[06:28] <kde4> hi
[06:31] <frybye> hi kde4 I gotta got to work now - see you here latter...
[06:58] <Xavura> Someone do /ctcp KX os
[06:58] <Xavura> I got it working! :D
[06:58] <Xavura> sorry Xavura*
[06:59] <Xavura> No more Windows FTW.
[07:29] <progreSSive> hi everybody
[07:29] <progreSSive> i need help please
[07:29] <progreSSive> ubuntu 8.04
[07:29] <sigma_> !hi
[07:29] <progreSSive> cannot set up a mic
[07:29] <sigma_> are you on kubuntu?
[07:30] <progreSSive> and when i open the sound recorder, it says "your audio capture settings are invalid. please correct them in the multimedia settings"
[07:30] <progreSSive> nope, i'm using ubuntu 8.04
[07:30] <progreSSive> am i in the wrong channel? :)
[07:30] <sigma_> why are you asking in #kubuntu?
[07:31] <sigma_> try #ubuntu
[07:31] <progreSSive> ok, sorry )
[07:40] <jessica> is there a way to get it so when you try and accsess a folder it will ask for a password i tryed kgpg and that only lets your compress and encript i want its so its like a normal folder just needing a sercure password to get the information
[07:41] <alesan> hi, I must say kubuntu has the ugliest fonts ever ;) seriously, some web pages are ok, other are absolutely bad. should I install something specific?
[07:42] <jessica> web pages ?? are you sure thats not the web designer just choising a font you don't like ?
[07:43] <alesan> yes I am. *I* am the designer of some of those web pages.
[07:43] <alesan> and just before reinstalling 8.04 they were fine.
[07:44] <alesan> I didnt upgrade, but I performed a new installation, so I didn't retain any older package
[07:44] <hometzu> alesan: did you download the MS TTF fonts package?
[07:44] <alesan> hometzu: what is the exact name of the package?
[07:44] <Pennycook> alesan: You won't have most of your TrueType fonts installed by default.
[07:44] <alesan> is it in ne of the standard repos?
[07:45] <alesan> s/ne/one
[07:45] <Pennycook> alesan: msttcorefonts I think
[07:45] <alesan> that was not installed.
[07:45] <Pennycook> As I said, it's not installed by default.
[07:45] <jessica> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:46] <hometzu> alesan: it isn't by default because of legal issues
[07:46] <alesan> I completely understand the problem. I just said, that package was not installed on my system. I hope the situation will improve now ;)
[07:47] <sigma_> yeah aka ms are bastards!
[07:47] <jessica> the sure are !
[07:47] <hotpocket> hi
[07:47] <jessica> !hi
[07:47] <jessica> :)
[07:47] <LilSarge> hello
[07:47] <alesan> well... they released those fonts after all ;) back few years ago you had to copy them by hand from a window installation
[07:47] <jessica> sorry im obsessed by the bot at the moment ill use it when ever i can
[07:48] <jessica> ill try to only use it when needed
[07:48] <hotpocket> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu? besides the 1 letter difference in the name?
[07:48] <jessica> one has kde one has gnome
[07:48] <Pennycook> hotpocket: Ubuntu uses Gnome by default, Kubuntu uses KDE.
[07:48] <hotpocket> oh ok
[07:48] <hotpocket> and whats the difference betweent those?
[07:48] <jessica> google it
[07:48] <hotpocket> k
[07:48] <hotpocket> ill do that later
[07:48] <jessica> its the GUI (graphical user interface)
[07:48] <sigma_> kde rocks, gnome doesnt:)
[07:48] <hotpocket> i personally use ubuntu
[07:49] <hometzu> hotpocket: lots of differences in looks, very little functionally
[07:49] <hotpocket> im just banned from #ubuntu :(
[07:49] <hotpocket> thats why im in here
[07:49] <hometzu> lol
[07:49] <Pennycook> hotpocket: There's nothing to stop you from installing Ubuntu + KDE, or Kubuntu + Gnome.  Kubuntu is really Ubuntu with a different set of default packages.
[07:49] <jessica> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome
[07:49] <jessica> there you go
[07:49] <hotpocket> ok
[07:49] <sigma_> why did they ban you?
[07:49] <hotpocket> oh ok
[07:49] <jessica> whay are you banned
[07:49] <hotpocket> uh
[07:49] <jessica> *why
[07:49] <hotpocket> my friend was spamming ubuntu off topic, and since i was saying lmao at it
[07:49] <alesan> hometzu: I wouldn;t say that.  I mean, which country are you talking about?
[08:04] <sigma_> south africa
[08:04] <alesan> ah ok sorry
[08:05] <alesan> you just said that :)
[08:05] <DarkriftX> ok, really new to sed, and man/google arent giving much help. im trying to remove everything from a txt file except for a table. everything between  <table qaid="10002" and the next </table> after that should be kept. what would be the easiest way to do this ?
[08:12] <xt828> i rebooted my computer, and when i try to log in to kubuntu it gives me an error message about kstartupconfig being unable to start
[08:13] <oilinki> hi, using konversation irc client: do you know how to make this client to highlight an tab (eg #kubuntu with red color) if there is activity on the tab?
[08:15] <hotpocket> i might
[08:16] <hotpocket> well, its default red when someone types your name, and green when someone responds
[08:16] <smAs__> xt828: ls -l /usr/bin/kstartupconfig
[08:16] <Pennycook> oilinki: I think by default Konversation highlights the text on tabs green if there's activity and red when somebody uses your nick.  If you want to change that; go to Settings > Configure Konversation -> Notifications -> Tabs.
[08:16] <hotpocket> found it
[08:16] <hotpocket> you beat me to it v_v
[08:16] <oilinki> hotpocket: actually this is now working for #kubuntu@freenet, but does not work for another irc-server (ircnet)
[08:17] <hotpocket> its actually colors
[08:17] <xt828> smAs__: i'll have to reboot to do that, waht should it do?
[08:17] <hotpocket> wait
[08:17] <hotpocket> go to settings/configure konversation/colors
[08:17] <oilinki> I'll have to do a cross cheking again
[08:18] <smAs__> xt828: can you still log on cli
[08:19] <xt828> smAs__: when it boots, after selecting OS in grub, it dumps me to a command line as root, and i type reboot to get into kde
[08:19] <oilinki> hotpocket, Pennycook thanks for the help. I think I can do it now.
[08:20] <smAs__> xt828: you boot normal or single user mode?
[08:21] <xt828> smAs__: whatever the default is, i haven't changed it
[08:21] <smAs__> ok you might try recovery mode first and see if you end up in X
[08:22] <xt828> smAs__: how do i do that?
[08:22] <crackhead_25_> who knows the best way to rip individual video/audio combination tracks off a dvd into selfcontained mpeg's??
[08:23] <smAs__> if not check ls -l /usr/bin/kstartupconfig and see if all user have the right to xecute rwxr-xr-x
[08:23] <oilinki> now the colors work well. thanks again for the info. I wanted to change from pidgin to konversations as this seems to be lighter client.
[08:23] <crackhead_25_> i.e. i have a dvd with two videos on them accessible via a menu. how do i rip them each for use on a website?
[08:23] <smAs__> it tells you in grub xt828
[08:23] <smAs__> are you able to use a cli irc client xt828
[08:24] <xt828> smAs__: nope
[08:24] <xt828> smAs__: but i have an install of ubuntu that i'm using atm
[08:25] <crackhead_25_> anyone?
[08:26] <Pennycook> crackhead_25_: I think K3B could probably do that.
[08:33] <xt828> smAs__: that didn't work
[08:33] <baudthief> Is it bad practice to mount a drive inside a "folder"? ie: Music/Trance/<drive1 contents>, Music/Metal/<drive2 contents>
[08:34] <baudthief> I thought of symlinking, but for some reason the symliks dont work over samba on my Ubuntu box (works on windows though)
[08:34] <smAs> xt828: find the ls -l /usr/bin/kstartupconfig file from your current system
[08:35] <smAs> the /usr/bin/kstartupconfig file on your broken install xt828
[08:36] <Pennycook> baudthief: Nah, that's fine.  I've personally got my music, videos etc mounted in /home.
[08:36] <xt828> smAs: it gave me the result -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root *some numbers* /usr/bin/kstartupconfig
[08:37] <smAs> ok that is ok xt828
[08:39] <smAs> ok xt828 this looks like a permissions probllem ... reboot, log in and do chown -R username:users /home/username that should do it
[08:39] <xt828> okeydoke, be back soon
[08:48] <xt828> smAs: it told me that is couldn't find /home/xt828
[08:51] <baudthief> Pennycook: thanks!
[08:55] <Parker1> Can anyone help me configure my ATI Radeon 7000 for Dual Dislpay
[09:20] <GavinDamage> how do i create the equivalent of a batch file in linux
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> GavinDamage: with a bash script
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> GavinDamage: open your favourite text editor and paste #!/bin/sh at the top
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> then code the script as you would a windows batch file
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> GavinDamage: remember to chmod u+x <script name> to make it executable
[09:23] <LilSarge> HaLlo aLl
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> hi LilSarge
[09:24] <LilSarge> how are you
[09:24] <Parker1> Anyone help me with Xserver config?
[09:24] <GavinDamage> do i have to put END at the end
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> LilSarge: not bad, you ok
[09:24] <GavinDamage> of the script
[09:24] <LilSarge> doin better
[09:24] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: What sort of config?
[09:24] <eagles051387> hey guys i am having a networkign issue. at home i use static ips on my internal network. before i left the house today i switched it back to automatic and to get ip via dhcp
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> GavinDamage: no, you can add exit codes if you wish though but its not necessary
[09:25] <Parker1> Configuring xserver-xorg
[09:25] <eagles051387> when i came to turn it on and work it seems to have reverted back to the static ip setup and this is after the 2 updated packages released this morning
[09:25] <GavinDamage> cool thankyou
[09:25] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: Yeah what do you need to do?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> eagles051387: try modifying /etc/networking/interfaces you will need kdesu
[09:25] <Parker1> well it's telling me to enter the bus ID and when I do it tells me it's wrong.
[09:26] <Parker1> Which is stupid because it isn't wrong. Do you think it's because I didn't put the exact description of the device? Does it need the exact desscription, or can I call it whatever I want?
[09:26] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: Did you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:26] <Parker1> Yes
[09:26] <Parker1> i am trying to enable to dual Display
[09:27] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: Dual display. Right. Can't help you sorry. I think you might be able to enable it in the KDE system settings
[09:27] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: That's all I've got. Sorry
[09:28] <Parker1> Okay forget dual display then. Can you help me install this device using a different driver?
[09:28] <Parker1> Maybe help me figure out how to Identify the Bus?
[09:29] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: I know there is a good command for that, I just can't remember it. Myabe you could find it using lspci?
[09:29] <Parker1> Yeah I've done that, and that's what is going on. It's telling that's incorrect;. Bloody thing.
[09:30] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: What graphics card is it?
[09:30] <Parker1> ATI Radeon 7000
[09:31] <sonoftheclayr> Parker1: And the driver is installed?
[09:31] <Parker1> Yes
[09:32] <Parker1> I think I might have figured it out. I think I just have to edit this /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Parker1: backup the original first
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Parker1: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.12th June2008 or some crap
[09:33] <eagles051387> i need help with networking issues can anyone help
[09:35] <eagles051387> hey SaraSmith
[09:35] <eagles051387> hows your machine working
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> eagles051387: if you want dhcp, edit you /etc/networking/interfaces file and put iface <NIC name> enet dhcp instead of static
[09:36] <eagles051387> ActionParsnip  thats funny cuz the day before yesterday i could just change it from system settings
[09:37] <eagles051387> ActionParsnip what exactly in there do i change
[09:38] <eagles051387> ActionParsnip do i change where it says iface eth0 inet static change it to dynamic
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> eagles051387: where it says static, put dhcp. Id comment out all the ip settings too, but leave them there incase
[09:39] <Parker1> Does anyone know to upgrade dapper to Hardy in terminal?>
[09:40] <eagles051387> ActionParsnip ok then run ifconfig eth0 down then up
[09:40] <eagles051387> ActionParsnip stupid question how do i comment them out
[09:41] <engineer> //
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> eagles051387: put a # at the start of the line to comment out
[09:41] <eagles051387> tried // and ##
[09:41] <eagles051387> they didnt grey out or anything
[09:42] <engineer> oops
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> eagles051387: they dont
[09:42] <engineer> your nick tricked me with ActionScript
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> engineer: too much C programming?
[09:42] <engineer> no, java
[09:42] <engineer> but in ActionScript it's //
[09:43] <eagles051387> lol actually engineer u in off topic
[09:43] <eagles051387> * you
[09:43] <eagles051387> ActionParsnip i just put ## at the beginning of the lines
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles051387: thats fine
[09:44] <eagles051387> ok
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> then pull your network down/ up or simply reboot
[09:47] <eagles051387> rebooting
[09:47] <eagles051387> engineer are you in the offtopic channel
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> your call
[09:48] <engineer> eagles051387 no why?
[09:49] <eagles051387> engineer i need some help with java lol trying to get started making an irc client for my hosting company
[09:49] <eagles051387> just dont know where to start i learned java this past yr just not how to make guis
[09:50] <engineer> you can pvt me
[09:50] <eagles051387> engineer hold that thought
[09:54] <larsivi> Alt+F2 no longer starts the mini-cli (after install and remove of KDE4) - please help
[09:55] <theseinfeld> larsivi check your shortcuts?
[09:55] <larsivi> theseinfeld: I did - they look correct
[09:56] <larsivi> others seems to work afaics (Alt+Space, ...)
[09:56] <theseinfeld> larsivi, you mean katapult?
[09:56] <Parker1> Anyone know how to enable multihead display?
[09:56] <larsivi> theseinfeld: yes
[09:57] <theseinfeld> you removed the kde4
[09:57] <theseinfeld> larsivi
[09:57] <larsivi> theseinfeld: yes, so now I would like Alt+F2 to work in KDE3 again
[09:58] <ere4si> !bot
[09:59] <ere4si> !dualhead | Parker1
[09:59] <theseinfeld> larsivi, in kde4 is the krunner
[10:00] <larsivi> theseinfeld: yes, I know and I guess Alt+F2 somehow still is linked to krunner, but I no longer have it installed
[10:00] <Parker1> ere4si, I am sure that is not going to help me as iI have been scowering the net for the last 4 hours trying to get this to work. Which is really bad because I am setting up a Home Theater Server
[10:00] <larsivi> in shortcuts setup there isn't the name of the command, just hte generic term "Run Command"
[10:02] <theseinfeld> larsivi, maybe you should move the ~/.kde and ~/.kde4 to some backup directories to reset the settings and check then if it works
[10:02] <Parker1> not to mention that is for SUSE!~!~!! not Ubuntu!!!~#$
[10:05] <ct529> hi everybody!
[10:06] <eagles0513875> hey
[10:06] <ct529> using kde 3.5.9, is it possible to have a menu like the one in kde4, where you can search the application by writing the name (or keyword) in the top search box in the menu?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: better?
[10:23] <Repentinus> Hi
[10:23] <eagles0513875> hey
[10:24] <Repentinus> Is there any simple way to create new installation disk for Kubuntu? I do not want to use all the trash that is isntalled by original one because I want to install it onto flash drive.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you on dhcp now?
[10:27] <eagles0513875> Repentinus if u get it on a flash drive and it working let me know cuz i tried it and it didnt work for me the wiki thats around is ancient and i wasnt able to get it to work
[10:31] <Repentinus> But I can't use original installer, it installs lots of trash and I may run out of space if I am installing development tools.
[10:31] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip yes i am thanks a bunch now i know how to fix it at home too lol
[10:32] <eagles0513875> Repentinus i dunno what to tell u at some point in time i will try it again and let u know how it goes
[10:32] <eagles0513875> *you
[10:32] <andybleaden> Hi looking for help with mount hard drives...anyone any good? Got problems mounting usb drives since upgrading to Heron
[10:32] <eagles0513875> !aolspeak | eagles0513875
[10:32] <andybleaden> they were working fine but now are all over the place. Here are the results from sudo fdisk -l     http://paste.ubuntu.com/19590/
[10:33] <andybleaden> any help would be appreciated. I can run some more commands if it will help
[10:33] <ct529> !kickoff
[10:33] <dga> for some reason when i install kubuntu 8.04 on my inspirion 1501, the sound no longer works properly. all i hear is a static noise. has anyone heard of this issue?
[10:34] <ct529> where do I find kickoff packaged for ubuntu?
[10:34] <eagles0513875> ct529 thought that was goign to kick you from channel
[10:34] <eagles0513875> !info kickoff | ct529
[10:34] <eagles0513875> !kickoff | ct529
[10:34] <andybleaden> Do I need to reinstall hardy heron or is there I way I can use command line to change things
[10:35] <eagles0513875> ct529 might have to get source
[10:35] <ct529> eagles0513875: :(
[10:36] <andybleaden> last time I upgraded to gutsy I had similar problems but they were different ...the large difference if the names of all drives have changed and all the permissions
[10:36] <eagles0513875> ct529 whats wrong
[10:37] <ct529> eagles0513875: I have been looking for the source on kde, but have not found it yet
[10:37] <andybleaden> Any one any good with hard drives and mounting??
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> !mount | andybleaden
[10:40] <andybleaden> ubottu: tried the -> Disks & Filesystem but it made no difference..I actually think it made it worse :(...should I run imount or is itrpogramme
[10:40] <eagles0513875> andybleaden lol ubbotu = bot
[10:40] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: oh come on I am a nb :(
[10:41] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: :)
[10:41] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: what does that mean ?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !bot | andybleaden
[10:42] <eagles0513875> ubottu is just a program not intelligent
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu
[10:42] <andybleaden> I see..doh!
[10:42] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:42] <andybleaden> easily confessed!
[10:46] <andybleaden> So is there actually anything I can do
[10:47] <andybleaden> The ubot thing was not alot of help...I need help mounting drives not partitions
[10:47] <engineer> you can't mount drives
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: hit up your favourite search engine
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: only root can mount drives
[10:48] <andybleaden> I have been on google since yesterday and ubuntu forums
[10:48] <andybleaden> i restart the pc with no usbs and all the mount letters sda1 etc have all changed
[10:48] <andybleaden> Why?
[10:49] <andybleaden> when I mount the usb drives they become the media drive
[10:49] <andybleaden> which means I cannot access all the other media drives I have
[10:49] <andybleaden> Is there a fail safe of remounting the drives with the right letters
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: check your /etc/fstab
[10:51] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19595/
[10:52] <haryono> how to shrink the panel?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: wtf are all these about <mount\040point>
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ^ that is not right dude
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> line 15 to 17 are right
[10:54] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: I was hoping for an answer about them
[10:54] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: Can I just delete em?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: yes if you dont want those disks / partitions automounting for you
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> id comment them out with # at the start of the line instead
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> if you want rid
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> after you have edited (you'll need kdesu for root access)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> run sudo mount -a
[10:55] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: So on kate put a #
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: yes at the start of the lines to "remove"
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: the data is still there but unread
[10:56] <haryono> ho w to configure the screen resolution?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> haryono: you installed your graphics drivers?
[10:57] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: will run sudo mount -a...give this result http://paste.ubuntu.com/19597/
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: you need to create those folder
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> etc
[10:58] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: you mean for the usbs ?
[10:59] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: again in kate?or in command line
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: cli
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: and in your fstab you are referencing /dev/hda1 which doesnt exist
[11:01] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: thanks..I have put the # next to the lines only with <mount\040point> is that enough or do I do all of em http://paste.ubuntu.com/19598/
[11:01] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: re hda1...that used to be my system drive
[11:02] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: now it not?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> now it not...whats that mean?
[11:03] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: sorry when said that ....the hda1 was the system drive and under the first test I did it had changed http://paste.ubuntu.com/19590/
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ok well as long as those mounts are a representation of your system
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> if you run sudo fdisk -l you'll see all your partitions
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> make sure they all get mounted (the ones yuo want)
[11:06] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: now I have sda1 and sda2 in my 500gb usb drive . here is the fdisk result http://paste.ubuntu.com/19602/
[11:07] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: I think I may have messed this up
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> well you only commented stuff out
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> so you can uncomment what you want to keep
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> compare the fstab to fdisk output
[11:08] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: no with the make dir commands it has made dirs in a usb drive
[11:08] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: it sees the usb drive as media
[11:08] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: dunno why or how to reverse it
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> if it wants to put it in /media thats fine
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> you could create a symlink in /mnt if you want
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> so it looks like its in /mnt
[11:09] <haryono> kubuntu indonesia
[11:09] <haryono> pls
[11:09] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: I used to have a media section with all my hard drives in now the media section is in one of my hard drives and I cannot access all the other ones
[11:10] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip isnt there a locate command he can run
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: to locate what?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: lend a hand please dude
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:11] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: when I run ls -l  In media I get the contents of one of the usbs...the 500gb
[11:12] <andybleaden> hair pulling noises all round...any help appreciated
[11:12] <andybleaden> Sorry I ain't making this any easier
[11:13] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: Do I need to go back to re install?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: its just the fstab file mounting stuff that needs tweaking
[11:13] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: ah
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> can you see whats going on
[11:13] <andybleaden> tweakin sounds doable
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> and how the fdisk output relates to fstab?
[11:15] <markus_> hi
[11:15] <andybleaden> er yes...but I thought the fstab here http://paste.ubuntu.com/19606/ meant the system was sorted but I cannot see how when I run the fdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/19602/
[11:16] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip:  the sda1 and 2 used to be my usb hd
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: ok, so create the fstab entry, you can pretty much copy whats in the other lines or run man fstab
[11:18] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: hang on...edit the fstab?  ie cut out all of what I do not need
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: no, just add the lines for the usb drives based on fdisks output
[11:20] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: So replace dsa1 with sdc?  or use the disk identifier id
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> andybleaden: id do some research into what you are dealing with dude, you are on the right track but its just minor details
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> i gotta split for a bit
[11:22] <andybleaden> ok
[11:22] <andybleaden> ActionParsnip: many thanks for what you have done
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> peace out y'alls
[11:22] <eagles0513875> later ActionParsnip
[11:22] <eagles0513875> ty for ur help btw
[11:22] <eagles0513875> *thank you for your
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> np bro, kep punching, you are mega close. delete nothing, only comment out with #s
[11:23] <eagles0513875> andybleaden i think he got me confused with you
[11:23] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: i am lost
[11:23] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: too a point
[11:24] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: you have any ideas
[11:24] <frybye> hi all - I am looking for help with config. the house lan via smb4k - I can see the rescorces on the -other- pc but get a fault report about them not being mounted when trying to access/click on them.. What now?
[11:25] <eagles0513875> frybye are they windows machines
[11:25] <frybye> The fault report says to refer to man mount.cifs - but this is about 50 pages of stuff I dont understand..
[11:25] <eagles0513875> humm
[11:26] <frybye> the other pc is a windows machine - i am trying to connect my new kubuntu machine to it - i have to have windows on the other for work...
[11:27] <frybye> in the smb4k window I can see the stuff on the other pc - but it complains that it is not mounted if I try and access it...?
[11:27] <frybye> I saw somthing about dragging stuff from one window to another but am not sure what this is about???
[11:27] <andybleaden> eagles0513875: when I look at the system settings it looks the same...can I paste a screen capture here?
[11:28] <frybye> when trying to research with google i find infos but they all assume a load of background knowedge I dont have...
[11:31] <frybye> eagles0513875: I have installed samba server .. if that makes a difference to this I am not sure...???
[11:31] <frybye> is there a lota lag..??? or a netsplit just now??
[11:33] <rotich> hi
[11:37] <eagles0513875> frybye im guessing ur other machines are windows based
[11:38] <eagles0513875> if they are you might not have samba configured correctly
[11:38] <eagles0513875> if they are linux based machines you need to setup NFS
[11:38] <frybye> yes eagles I have said so - has a vista on it .. I have not configured samba at all!  have no idea how too???
[11:38] <adrian1520> hello
[11:38] <eagles0513875> !samba | frybye
[11:38] <adrian1520> i have a problem, my headphones don't work with ubuntu, or at least i can't get them to work
[11:38] <eagles0513875> frybye follow the wiki and that will do the trick for ya
[11:39] <frybye> I just installed the packages for samba and the Smb4K thing - wiki and so on nearly always assume far far more background knowledge than I have... I just see pages and pages of stuff in them that I understand perhaps 1% of...
[11:40] <frybye> I will go look - but am not too hopefull.. mostly I dont even know the terminology used...
[11:40] <adrian1520> i have a problem, my headphones don't work with ubuntu, or at least i can't get them to work. (Please I Need Help!)
[11:41] <frybye> eagles0513875: for instance the first thing I read is "Mounting -ubprotected (guest) network folders..I dont have a clue what that is...?
[11:41] <eagles0513875> frybye the man pgs will have tons of info the wiki is a simplified version of it all
[11:41] <eagles0513875> frybye honestly me neither
[11:41] <eagles0513875> in all honesty its quite easy to setup samba shares to the point where u dont need the wiki
[11:41] <eagles0513875> frybye open up system settings
[11:42] <frybye> I have folders on the windows machine that are -hmmm dont know the english words.. ger. freigegeben - ie made accessable to others on the home net...
[11:42] <E_mE> how can i found out what type of memory my computer uses via the console?
[11:42] <eagles0513875> frybye then thats an issue with vista security
[11:42] <frybye> I am runnung the SmbK thing which is a network browser..
[11:43] <eagles0513875> frybye its most probably an issue with the /etc/fstab and u are probably also getting the error due to vista security
[11:43] <frybye> it just says the stuff has to be mounted.. I dont know how to start to even think about doing that... need sbdy to give me step by stepp instructions...
[11:43] <eagles0513875> also i have had issues where the windows firewall blocks the folders from being seeen
[11:43] <eagles0513875> frybye try disabling the firewall and see if that helps at all
[11:43] <frybye> this was all working until I had to reinstall kubuntu .. a pal who is a sys-eng set it up the first time but he is not avail now..
[11:43] <frybye> eagles.. I hvae not mounted them...
[11:44] <frybye> the fault report says what the problem is - they are not mounted.. i just dont know how to do it...?
[11:44] <eagles0513875> i know how to do it but im not sure how to mount drives on remote machines
[11:45] <frybye> the www content you refered me too above assume loads of background knowedge that I dont have.. that is (always-) the problem for somebody jsut starting with all this..
[11:46] <frybye> if everyone had an it qualification/3 years of univiersity it stuff behind them would be quite usefull the stuff on the www...
[11:46] <eagles0513875> frybye then youll like my site which is vry limited right now but a work in progress its geared to people such as urself
[11:46] <eagles0513875> frybye http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com
[11:48] <frybye> eagles - dosent seem to be any content really on the site just now...?
[11:48] <eagles0513875> frybye u have to sign up to get access to content which is my forum atm
[11:49] <frybye> this is all hopeless - I need one of my pals to do a ssh session and fix this.. one of them is v. busy and the other is in reno nevada - (me in Germany..) whichmeans there is a big problem with the time difference..
[11:49] <frybye> forum atm"" <--?
[11:50] <eagles0513875> frybye forum at the moment on my site
[11:50] <eagles0513875> frybye be patient dude there is someone in here who will be able to help ya
[11:51] <frybye> eagles0513875:  - your login has been blocked please contatct the administrator"" <--?
[11:52] <frybye> I had just registered.. do I have to use a link in an email to confirm the reg??
[11:53] <eagles0513875> frybye no
[11:53] <eagles0513875> frybye u dont need to confirm
[11:53] <frybye> eagles0513875: sorry If i appear impatient.. I have been trying to get some help on this since yesterday evning and basically getting nowhere..
[11:54] <eagles0513875> frybye its ok dude i know the feeling when things dont work
[11:54] <frybye> still opens a window with the message above.. blocked...
[11:54] <eagles0513875> O_o im goign to try get to my site
[11:55] <eagles0513875> frybye logged into my admin pannel
[11:56] <eagles0513875> frybye whats ur user name
[11:56] <eagles0513875> frybye i found ya
[11:56] <eagles0513875> frybye try again
[11:58] <eagles0513875> frybye it seems like x10hosting.com is having some email issues atm dude. im still trying to get the email issue resolved
[11:58] <frybye> said youi have sucussefully logged in - seems ok...
[11:59] <eagles0513875> :) ya u were supposed to get a confirmation email but things with the hosting and gmail seems to be having an issue
[11:59] <eagles0513875> frybye i had to unblock ur account
[11:59] <eagles0513875> frybye sry about that
[11:59] <frybye> might be an idea to put a "list of contents" on the main page accessable to all - so they can see there is a point in reg.??
[12:00] <eagles0513875> true that i shall do that probably tonight when i get home right now im at work lol
[12:00] <eagles0513875> with nothing to do but work on the website
[12:00] <frybye> clicking on how-toos has not found anything...?
[12:01] <eagles0513875> nothing there yet
[12:01] <frybye> it shows "searching but... i c ...
[12:01] <eagles0513875> if u have any links to any how tos email the links to me
[12:02] <frybye> ok - I get you ... but I am a bit worried about not having the net access to my other pc cos till I have it I cant do an imge of this new installation and if anyhting goes wrong.. hmmm
[12:02] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis can u help my friend frybye here
[12:02] <eagles0513875> *you
[12:02] <eagles0513875> frybye as your question again
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> I can try. been doing 12 hrs at work all week.. im about worn out. :)
[12:05] <eagles0513875> 12 hrs a day
[12:05] <costa58> ciao
[12:05] <eagles0513875> !it | Colonel_Panic
[12:05] <eagles0513875> sry Colonel_Panic wrong person
[12:05] <eagles0513875> !it | costa58
[12:05] <costa58> nessuno italiano?
[12:05] <eagles0513875> costa58 see above
[12:05] <eagles0513875> !it | costa58
[12:07] <frybye> I am eating luch right now - be back in 10+ mins..  c u then.. ? is up there ^ scrooling...?
[12:08] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip you might be able to help frybye when he gets back from lunch
[12:08] <eagles0513875> hes trying to mount a drive on a vista machine so he can take an image of his linux install he is quite new to linux
[12:08] <Finnish> How to unmount USB-stick?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Finnish: sudo umount <mountpoint>
[12:10] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip he keeps getting an error though when he tries to mount it
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: boot to live cd and use dd
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: what error?
[12:12] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip its not me its frybye whose having the issue
[12:13] <eagles0513875> frybye are  you around
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> i'll still need the erro
[12:14] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip he has it i dont
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> if he's creating an image of it it doesnt want to be mounted anyways
[12:14] <frybye> eagles0513875: I am now...
[12:14] <sonoftheclayr> Anybody able to help with what I think is DNS issues with Opera?
[12:14] <eagles0513875> frybye ActionParsnip wants to know the error your getting
[12:15] <frybye> I am trying to access some open directories on a windows machin in the home net via Smb4K - the error message is:-
[12:15] <frybye> mount error 2 = No such file or directory
[12:15] <frybye> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[12:16] <frybye> got that ActionParsnip??
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> yeah man
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> frybye: check smbmount
[12:16] <frybye> so what do i need to do pal...
[12:16] <frybye> I have very little background knowledge - please tell me step by step what to do???
[12:18] <frybye> ActionParsnip: you still there  - eh perhaps there is a netsplit or lag???
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !smbmount
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> frybye: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:19] <frybye> ActionParsnip: just tell me what to do and i will do it step by step - stuff on the ubuntu.com nearly aways assumes far more background knowl. than I have..
[12:20] <frybye> I have look at that 1 hour ago but dont know enough for it to help me - dont know the terminology - the concepts nothing..
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you cant expect everyone to walk you through everything you want to do
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> thats outragous
[12:20] <sivaji> i am logged in into server via ssh, i wnat to copy file from server home dir to my home dir . how to do this ?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> how do you think we all know what we know?
[12:21] <frybye> action - I need to learn step by step - such www infos assume that one has already studied for 3 years or similar...
[12:21] <eagles0513875> jazman i activated ur account on my site
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> frybye: ok
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> frybye: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[12:22] <frybye> by learning step by step I guess..an by going to college etc... I am a 59yo air force disab. veteran - i dont have the opportunity to go to school again - there were not pcs when I was trained in comms - i did morse code damn it...
[12:22] <jazman> I love linux but how do i install packages easy i download on my hdrive non deb packages
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> frybye: ive learned all my OS knowledge from the web. I have not sat LPI or MCSE exams
[12:22] <frybye> ok but this smb4k is no good...
[12:23] <frybye> me too action - I started (again-) on linux about 3 wks ago...
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> frybye: ok kdesu kate ~/.smbcredentials
[12:23] <jazman> i downloaded a cdc cover on in trz un zipped how do i isntall woiyhc out code give me windows installer palease
[12:23] <frybye> some 2 years ago i did suse10.1 for a few months..
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you need 2 lines in that file
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> username=<windows username with access>
[12:23] <eagles0513875> jazman not recommended but u ca use alien to convert
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> password=<password of account>
[12:24] <eagles0513875> jazman better off getting source
[12:24] <frybye> the windows pc does not use a pw...
[12:24] <jazman> whats alien it sounds good
[12:24] <sivaji> i am logged in into server via ssh, i waat to copy file from server home dir to my home dir . how to do this ?
[12:24] <jazman> i dont source i like to double click and it installs
[12:24] <jazman> or add remove from repos
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> frybye: it has to or this wont work
[12:24] <jazman> one of a few things that annoys me
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> plus blank passwords are for idiot
[12:25] <frybye> ok - but it was working till i re-installed kubuntu -
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> yes as you have lost the config when you reinstalled
[12:26] <sonoftheclayr> Anybody know how to download an entire directory using wget?
[12:26] <sivaji> sonoftheclayr as for as i know you can download the entire directory
[12:26] <sivaji> cant*
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> sonoftheclayr: man wget
[12:27] <sonoftheclayr> sivaji: man page is way too long and it just says you could do it. It might be down the bottom somewhere but I didn't get that far
[12:27] <frybye> ActionParsnip: ok there is a pw now.. hang on...
[12:27] <jazman> if i can get this install buss i may use linux as secondary yhran the palnned linux as major boot
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> frybye: add it to the .smbcredentials file
[12:28] <eagles0513875> jazman what u trying to install
[12:28] <jmeng> hey everyone. Since FF 3.0 got installed I don't get a printing dialog anymore. That is, I can't choose a printer or change preferences for them, FF just prints to some default printer. What can I do about that?
[12:28] <eagles0513875> jmeng i was able to when iprinted other day
[12:28] <sivaji> sonoftheclayr let me try
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> jmeng: no idea but FF3 is beta and not supported in the official channels
[12:29] <sonoftheclayr> sivaji: I got it. -w
[12:29] <jmeng> ActionParsnip: err, you have a point there, I guess...
[12:30] <frybye> ActionParsnip: that command " kdesu kate (dont know where the tilda symbol is on this German keyboard?) and stuffl..produced a page of text...
[12:30] <jmeng> frybye: tilde is altgr - +
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> frybye: yep, thats the config file for smbcredentials
[12:31] <sivaji> sonoftheclayr na -w means Wait the specified number of seconds between the retrievals
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you put your windows username and pass in there
[12:31] <jazman> beauty d/l alien now of debian site sudo apt worked
[12:31] <frybye> the text is just like a man page - lists loads of options - is not apparently a config file???
[12:31] <jazman> hopfully it works
[12:32] <frybye> thanks jmeng...
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> frybye: kdesudo kate ~/.smbcredentials
[12:32] <sivaji> sonoftheclayr can you tell me the exact command
[12:32] <sonoftheclayr> sivaji: Did i say w? I meant m
[12:32] <sivaji> sonoftheclayr [16:59] <sonoftheclayr> sivaji: I got it. -w
[12:33] <sonoftheclayr> sivaji: Yeah I scrolled up :p
[12:33] <frybye> hang on - got something wrong here.. just a min...
[12:33] <jazman> any good awy of getting my cannon printer to print on cds like i do in windowsa
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> frybye: basically in your home dir you need a file called .smbcredentials with your username and password in it
[12:35] <frybye> here it is just sudo normally or..??
[12:35] <eagles0513875> jazman cant help u there
[12:35] <frybye> the user name and password of the other windows pc or...?
[12:35] <jazman> thats cool
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> frybye: no, sudo is for cli apps only like rm, mv, apt
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> frybye: kdesu is for gui apps like kate, firefox etc
[12:36] <jazman> i think i have with one i think i may have to dual boot for a while
[12:36] <frybye> ok but are we talking about the user name and password on this kubuntu pc or the other windows pc that I am trying to get accecsstoo..?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> but the file is in your home (~/) so you do not need sudo as its in your home dir which you have full access to
[12:41] <frybye> ActionParsnip: sorry I seem to have missed something  is this username and pw I need to enter into that file the username and pw for this linux pc or the other windows pc..?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> frybye: in the file named ~/.smbcredential
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> you need 2 lines
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> username=<windows username>
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> password=<accounts password>
[12:42] <frybye> ok so can i edit it with nano <- i know and have used before..?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> sure, as long as you get the file
[12:42] <frybye> right it will be a new file I think??
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> frybye: yes
[12:44] <jazman> sorry cant get alien to work have installed it
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> frybye: just so you know all I'm doing is reading down the walkthrough and in many cases copy/pasting the text
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you made the file
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> ?
[12:47] <frybye> in nano when I do a ^o it does not save but shows the char. in the text..? hmmm?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> use ctrl+x
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> then it'll ask do you wanna save, then type the filename
[12:48] <frybye> shows  ^X in the text.. eh...?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> frybye: sure
[12:48] <frybye> bu hitting control should put in in the control mode.. eh??
[12:50] <frybye> hopeless - this is not what is "supposed" to happen..
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> frybye: thats vi
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> frybye: just read the screen
[12:50] <frybye> nano 2.0.7
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> nano uses ctrl+x to exit, if the file has been editted it will offer to saver
[12:51] <frybye> yeah on the screen it says control + o for save and contol + x for exit and soon but the control mode is not happening...
[12:51] <frybye> the control key is not working somehow...
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> frybye: hold down the ctrl key and press x
[12:51] <jussi01> How does one set the locale from the command line?
[12:52] <frybye> right I know - it just isnt working right.. hang on i try over..
[12:53] <haryono> why my kubuntu hang up many time ?
[12:53] <frybye> ok - i have done it with kate..
[12:54] <frybye> so what next.. <smile..>
[12:54] <haryono> whats wrong with my kubuntu? its hang up many time
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> frybye: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[12:54] <jussi01> !repeat | haryono
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> haryono: you fully updated?
[12:55] <frybye> now the
[12:55] <frybye> did that...
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> frybye: ok, that creates a backup so it can be switched back easily
[12:56] <frybye> copied to fstab.old...
[12:56] <frybye> ok and now...?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> frybye: get used to doing that
[12:56] <haryono> mine is Kubuntu 7.10 how to upgrade to Kubuntu 8.04
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> frybye: ok sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:56] <frybye> ok... what is the fstab file???
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | haryono
[12:57] <frybye> eh can I use kate .. the nano thing did not work out too good.. heheh
[12:57] <haryono> ubotu thnks
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> frybye: fstab tells your system how to mount your drives at bootup
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> frybye: open another konsole too, we need an extra step
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> in the new konsole
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[12:58] <frybye> it threw up a load of faults.. and still opened the file..
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> frybye: this is the folder that the network share will be mounted to
[12:59] <frybye> i have the fstab opened in kate - but in the first terminal there were 3 lines of faults..
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> frybye: ok so we have a mount folder and fstab is open in nano?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> frybye: yeah ignore faults
[12:59] <frybye> owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 etc etc..
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> frybye: did you sudo kate?
[13:00] <frybye> ok what now - I have 1 x kate and 2 x terminals..
[13:00] <frybye> yes...
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ok in the terminal you can use typr: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[13:01] <frybye> is typr: part of the command???
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> frybye: close kate and type kdesudo /etc/fstab
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[13:01] <frybye> ok did that..
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> you need sudo to create the folder as users do not have write access to /mnt
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> now
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[13:02] <frybye> did the mnt/windows first.. have not yet dont eh kdesudo /etc/fstab
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> god this is painful
[13:02] <frybye> he .. hang on tooo much too fast.. eh..
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ok so you have the windows folder in mtn
[13:02] <frybye> right it is..
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> and opened kate using kdesudo
[13:03] <freezex> hi I need help immediately
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> sup freezex
[13:03] <frybye> ok kate has opened again...
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ok open /etc/fstab
[13:03] <frybye> looks complex.. hmmmm...
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> frybye: not really
[13:04] <freezex> all of my programs on kubuntu nearly waits 40 seconds to respond
[13:04] <frybye> so what now pal...?
[13:04] <freezex> when I click them ...
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> freezex: does a reboot help?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> frybye: add:
[13:04] <freezex> no :S
[13:04] <nicolas__> meh
[13:05] <freezex> actually I installed kuubntu yesterday
[13:05] <frybye> so I type add: on the end of the stuff in the fstab or..??
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> frybye: //servername/sharename /mnt/windows smbfs credentials=~/.smbcredentials,gid=1234 0 0
[13:05] <nicolas__> im on GNOME :o
[13:05] <freezex> I converted my ubuntu into the kubuntu
[13:05] <nicolas__> got nothing to do there
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> freezex: get updated using sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:05] <frybye> eh ActionParsnip could we run a skype session parallel to this to make the communication a bit smoother..
[13:05] <freezex> ok
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> frybye: Im at work, no good
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you will never learn your system or be good with linux if you expect hand holding like this everytime you have issues. Im one of the nice ones but most people would tell you to jump, ok
[13:06] <frybye> ok i hve put that in thre...
[13:06] <frybye> ok - I need to find sbdy here who has a bit of time or .. i dont know...
[13:07] <freezex> all of the new packages were installed
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you will have to change servername and sharename to whatever your windows system is called and sharename to the name of the share you created. do not have any spaces in the share name
[13:07] <frybye> a window showed up with a new medium was found .. hey thats it or..
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> frybye: no, you need to have time to learn and search the web
[13:08] <frybye> hmmm... system:/media/sharename/ has shown up...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> frybye: dunno, got any usb drives pluged in
[13:08] <freezex> I don't know why but... my system is not slow, because I have used gnome before but there is no problem, after I have installed Kubuntu...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> frybye: yeah cos you just updated fstab but you copied EXACTLY what i tryped
[13:08] <frybye> no it happend as i saved the fstab...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> you need to change stuff for your network as I dont know your servername or sharenames do I
[13:09] <frybye> yeah of course...
[13:09] <freezex> at first it was working perfectly
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> you need to change it
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> sharename is not a windows share
[13:09] <frybye> oh - i c..
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> god
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> think a little will you ffs
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> freezex: give your system a reboot and see what you get
[13:09] <frybye> oh so what is that.. the name of the freemade dir on the windows pc or..??
[13:10] <freezex> but I will not return I know it ^^
[13:10] <freezex> when I click a program, it opens nearly in a MINUTE!!
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> frybye: all you have to do is substitute sername for the name of the server, and sharename for the name you shared the folder by on your windows machine, I thught that was fairly blatant
[13:10] <frybye> I am beat - this is all toooo  toooo much for me - I will have to wait till a pal gets here.. my head is exploding .. thans for you help - bye for now .. I need to go and get drunk or similar.. bye now..
[13:10] <freezex> and when it opens, it waits about 40 seconds to respond
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> freezex: only way you'll know
[13:11] <freezex> ok I will restart the system
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you got that updated now?
[13:12] <stefanos> hi
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> hi stefan
[13:12] <stefanos> i accidentally added an instance of the systray widget on my KDE4.1b desktop and i can't remove it :(
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !hi | stefanos
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> stefanos: head on over to #kde4
[13:13] <stefanos> yeah, no-one answers there, hehe
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> stefanos: I dont know myself, no KDE for me
[13:14] <stefanos> thanks anyway man!
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you got it sorted?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> a simple yes or no will do
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> freezex: better?
[13:15] <freezex> no :(
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> freezex: what spec PC do you have?
[13:16] <freezex> it is still lacks
[13:16] <freezex> configuration?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> freezex: no, cpu, ram et
[13:16] <freezex> I am using a laptop and..
[13:16] <freezex> I am not sure but..
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ok, whats in the laptop?
[13:16] <freezex> pentium 1.65 dual core
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> yeah..
[13:16] <freezex> 1024 ram
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> yeah
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> graphics card?
[13:17] <freezex> the graphic card is on-board. it doesn't supply 3D
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> can we have the output of uname -a
[13:17] <freezex> is this a bash code
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> freezex: its a CLI command
[13:18] <freezex> how can I use it?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> freezex: it will work in any termianl you throw it at
[13:18] <freezex> ok :)
[13:18] <frybye> ActionParsnip: no it is not sorted.. but I hve given up - tooo much...! sorry i appreciate all you help but it is just too complicated.. I mean I dont know what server name what this what that .. swimming in an ocean of "not knowing"
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> freezex: open konsole and type it in
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> frybye: the server name is the name of your windows pc
[13:18] <eagles0513875> frybye u get it working
[13:19] <frybye> ok - I will try again... hang on...
[13:19] <freezex> It started to wait yakuake :)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> frybye: http://csg.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/tips/smb/img/2k-cns.png
[13:19] <freezex> ok it comes
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> frybye: thats your computer name
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> frybye: the sharename is the one you chose when you shared the folder. You set it yourself
[13:20] <frybye> yeah i know the comp name .. i didnt know that that was the "server"
[13:20] <freezex> Linux freezex-laptop 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:20] <frybye> like my pc is a client pc I thought..
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you still need the names
[13:20] <freezex> is it enough?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> frybye: for the purpose of what you are doing it is acting as a file server
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> freezex: yeah, looks ok
[13:21] <freezex> what can I do now?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> freezex: so its ALL apps taking forever?
[13:22] <freezex> not forever but a very long time
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> ok
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> freezex: let me search
[13:22] <freezex> at very first, all of my applications were working properly
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> what changed?
[13:22] <frybye> so the server name is the winputer name - and what is the sharename???
[13:23] <freezex> however, I had installed some programs like ... firefox yakuake gaupol ... and somekind of stuff
[13:23] <freezex> then I restarted my system
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> frybye: right click the shared folder -> sharing and security
[13:23] <freezex> Then I realized that the kopete and kwallet waits to respont
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> it'll tell you there when you shared the folder yourself
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> freezex: ok all good stuff
[13:24] <freezex> after that situation ... every program started to wwwait about 40 Seconds to respond
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> freezex: try uninstalling kwallet
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> freezex: and kopete
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> freezex: if you dont --purge the config will stand so you can reinstall
[13:25] <freezex> and I recall I have installed to update about morning, before these problems
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> freezex: try removing the apps and see how you go from there
[13:28] <frybye> action - the shared folder is called Öffentlich - but in sambar I cant use Ö or???
[13:28] <freezex> I have removed two of this apps but all of my programs still respond lately
[13:28] <frybye> I seem to remember that this got autom. translated to public or simiar.. can that be right..?
[13:28] <freezex> I think it may be about the new updates
[13:28] <freezex> and I recall I have installed to update about morning, before these problems....
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> freezex: if you run top in a konsole and use your system it should show whats using most cpu time
[13:29] <freezex> I have updated ^^ my english sucks
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then change sharename in fstab that you simply copied and pasted to whatever your sharename is. Id call it something without umlouts for ease
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> (sp)
[13:31] <frybye> ActionParsnip: sorry - I am whacked.. this is just too much for me .. leave it for now - one of my linux pals will have to show up and go thru with this with me here on site.. thanx soo soo much for all your patience with me - bye now..
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> pece
[13:31] <freezex> it shows that
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you really need to learn stuff like this
[13:31] <freezex> 132 total, 1 running, 1 sleeping program
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> freezex: ok whats sleeping?
[13:32] <freezex> oh I am sorry ^^
[13:32] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:32] <freezex> 131 sleeping :D
[13:32] <freezex> 1 running
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> ok
[13:32] <eagles0513875> O_o
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> anything looking weird
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> any weird apps you arent familiar with
[13:33] <freezex> I am still watching the top command and it shows mostly Xorg and init are using the ram
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: lend a hand duder
[13:34] <freezex> it shows nothing weird :S
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> freezex: can we have a pastebin of your ps -ef output
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !paste | freezex
[13:34] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip i not sure botu frybye issue never delt with an issue like that and i dont know whats goign on with freezex
[13:34] <freezex> ok
[13:34] <eagles0513875> not to mention im in and out of here cuz im at work
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> me too eagles0513875
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: frybye is just too lazy to websearch for help
[13:38] <freezex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19628/
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> I love ktorrent web frontend!!
[13:38] <freezex> I hope it works
[13:38] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip front end for ktorrent???
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: yeah you can manage your torrents over www with the web frontend :)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> you can start them by giving it a .torrent file and it'l pull it down at the local system
[13:40] <freezex> yea? do you have a suggestion now? my friend ActionParsnip
[13:40] <Scrypts> Hey all, Im a brand newbie but ive got to say Kubuntu kicks Microsfts Backside....
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> freezex: keep hold of that url, I cant see anything myself
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: what makes you say that?
[13:41] <freezex> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19628/ ??
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> yeah
[13:41] <freezex> can't u see my paste
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> just not seeing anything untoward
[13:42] <Scrypts> Im having a problem installing Kubuntu. It does not recognise my Hard disk to put the root files on. ANY IDEAS???
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: can we have a pastebin of sudo fdisk -l
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Scrypts
[13:43] <freezex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19628/plain/
[13:43] <freezex> maybe it will work
[13:43] <Scrypts> Im sorry but I dont understand. Am I causing problems?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> freezex: i saw it dude, just that it looks ok to me and I dunno why your rig would be running slow as its a decent spec
[13:44] <Scrypts> What is pastebin??
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: no not at all. I want you to paste the output of sudo fdisk -l to the pastebin
[13:44] <freezex> ha ok sumimasai ^^
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: instead of pasting a truckload of lines and scrolling everything, we use pastebin to give a single link to a page to the pasted text
[13:45] <freezex> what can I do for now...
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> freezex: try in #ubuntu dude they may be able to help
[13:45] <freezex> I just want to reinstall the kubuntu or xubuntu I don't know actually
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> freezex: if you like kde, use kubuntu
[13:45] <freezex> I like kde
[13:46] <freezex> but it lacks with my system after a while I dont know
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: you paste the text in the box and click paste, then the url at the top of the bowser, paste in here
[13:46] <eagles0513875> freezex what u mean
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: we will see your text
[13:46] <eagles0513875> *you
[13:47] <freezex> I mean, I have a weird problem with my Kubuntu
[13:47] <freezex> programs are running fast ... but they are opening so slow ^^
[13:47] <freezex> or responding levels are too low
[13:48] <freezex> if they finally respont, they begin to run fast ^^
[13:48] <Scrypts> What do I need to paste in. sorry for my beginers ignorance
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: its cool bro
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> if you pasted the output of fdisk -l it would scroll all the text  real quick
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: its bad nettiquette
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: so use pastebin and you can put all the text on one line
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: imagine pasting the text in http://paste.ubuntu.com/19628/
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: it would scroll super fast and be near readable, that makes it useful and doesnt annoy people
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: you dig?
[13:50] <Scrypts> Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ] [-u] DISK     Change partition table
[13:50] <Scrypts>        fdisk -l [-b SSZ] [-u] DISK  List partition table(s)
[13:50] <freezex> do you know a way to make my Kubuntu turn back?
[13:50] <Scrypts>        fdisk -s PARTITION           Give partition size(s) in blocks
[13:50] <Scrypts>        fdisk -v                     Give fdisk version
[13:50] <Scrypts> Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
[13:50] <Scrypts> and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
[13:50] <Scrypts> -u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
[13:50] <Scrypts> -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors
[13:50] <freezex> or reinstalling kubuntu?
[13:50] <freezex> kde?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: see, thats what pastebin is for
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: see how it scrolled?
[13:50] <Scrypts> COOLIES...
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: and its pointless cos its not readable
[13:50] <Scrypts> Yep
[13:51] <Scrypts> DOH
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> so use pastebin
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Scrypts
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> and give us the link
[13:52] <xt828> when i reboot to kubuntu (in ubuntu atm) it drops me to the command line, and after typing reboot to get the graphical login screen up, it tells me that kstartupconfig can't start or something similar
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> its free so use it as much as you like
[13:53] <freezex> please give me a bash command to making my KDE brand new?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> xt828:  use ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> and its sudo reboot
[13:53] <Scrypts> I have found pastebin, but i am unsure how to give you the URL?
[13:53] <xt828> someone was helping me before and thought it was a permissions problem, but when i did the chown -R username:users /home/username it told me that my /home/username didn't exist
[13:53] <Pici> paste your text in it, and give us the url of the page it sends you to
[13:53] <nosrednaekim> Scrypts: copy it off the browser address bar and paste it here
[13:54] <urcadox> plouf
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> xt828: is username your username?
[13:55] <xt828> no, i substituted my username for the username bits - so the actual command i did was chown -R xt828:users /home/xt828
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ok just checking
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> tried it with sudo
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ??
[13:56] <xt828> the bit behind the cursor said i was logged in as root
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> oh god, don't log in as root
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> its asking for pain
[13:57] <xt828> i didn't intentionally
[13:57] <xt828> i did the recovery thing
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> just websearching
[13:59] <xt828> cheers - i'm not very comfortable without a gui, gotten used to them in the last decade
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> xt828: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/error-could-not-start-kstartupconfig.-328302/
[13:59] <Scrypts> Can anyone help me with this.? I live in the Midlands U.K. and id like to meet single lady friends. Where would be a goot Chat Room to meet people?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> no idea Scrypts, try getting a room list
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Scrypts: my gf is from the midlands
[14:01] <xt828> ActionParsnip: i found that before, but it looked to me like they were recommending what i've already tried, and under slightly different circumstances - i'm the only user on this computer, so there's only one account
[14:01] <Bauldrick> I have a mobile that attaches /dev/ttyACMO - it used to just show up as a device on desktop, how can I get it to again?
[14:01] <Scrypts> Cool.   I find it weird that this happened, given that i've been using kubuntu fine for about 6 months to this point
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> xt828: you could sudo cp it over and chown it
[14:03] <Scrypts> #ubuntu
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> xt828:  or you could use it to see how you can repair your other account
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> xt828: gets you on your feet as it were
[14:04] <Scrypts> hey all. are there any single uk lady's in here. or am i being a bit prusumptious?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> thiis is the official irc channel for Kubuntu dude
[14:04] <xt828> ActionParsnip: well, i'm pretty sure i can access all the files off the kubuntu install from here, as i have that hdd partition mounted in ubuntu, and i have the same home partition for both - actually, could that be part of the problem?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> xt828: afaik you need seperate homes for seperate accounts but it may be possible. Ive no idea
[14:07] <xt828> ActionParsnip: my setup at the moment is that i have a drive set up as my /home, and it only has one username account in it because i used the same username for ubuntu and kubuntu so i could access all my files from both
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> xt828: i do the same
[14:09] <Bauldrick> how can I get this device to mount and show up on desktop as opposed to elsewhere/
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: could make a symlink to it
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: like a shortcut
[14:11] <Bauldrick> ActionParsnip: that just shows me a shortcut and asks me what to open it with?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: did you ln -s /mnt/<mount point> ~/Dektop/Drive (or something similar)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> it may be ~/.Desktop
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> not sure in kde
[14:13] <Bauldrick> ActionParsnip: ln -s /dev/ttyACMO /home/matt/Desktop - is that wrong
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> yes
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> thats wrong
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> you need to mount it first
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> you cannot access raw devs
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> you can either mount it using command or use /etc/fstab to do it at boot
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> which do you fancy
[14:15] <Bauldrick> this is my problem it used to just show up whenever I plugged it in
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: well when you mount it it will show
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> sudo mkdir /media/acmo; sudo mount /dev/ttyACMO /media/acmo
[14:17] <Bauldrick> ActionParsnip: so I can get it to show on all users at boot via /etc/fstab ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: indeed
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: just add /dev/ttyACMO /media/acmo auto user,rw 0 0
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> from the first /
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> to /etc/fstab
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> you'll need kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[14:19] <Bauldrick> pico?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> once added run sudo mount -a
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: yeah pice, kwrite, kate, nano
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> just use the appropriate sudo / kdesudo
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> and add that line
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> that will make the thing automount
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: you got it ok?
[14:23] <Bauldrick> yeah, but I get mount: special device /dev/ttyACMO does not exist
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> if you run sudo fdisk -l (ell not eye) you will see your disks
[14:24] <Bauldrick> sda1,2,5
[14:24] <Bauldrick> when i plu in dmesg shows [10242.427179] cdc_acm 1-4:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: is this a phone per chance?
[14:25] <Bauldrick> yes
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> what model and make
[14:25] <Bauldrick> it shows up on another kubuntu pc
[14:26] <thomasgruebler> hello
[14:26] <thomasgruebler> i have a very old laptop
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> !hi | thomasgruebler
[14:26] <Bauldrick> ActionParsnip: i think its cdalled a o2 cocoon
[14:26] <Bauldrick> shows up as cocoon on another pc
[14:27] <thomasgruebler> the problem is that ubuntu is not useable for it
[14:27] <thomasgruebler> even fluxbuntu has some problems
[14:27] <thomasgruebler> and needs very long to boot
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> thomasgruebler: fluxbox is very light
[14:27] <thomasgruebler> but i need linux because of wpa2 wireless lan
[14:28] <thomasgruebler> i know
[14:28] <thomasgruebler> but not fluxbuntu
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> thomasgruebler: http://flwm.sourceforge.net/
[14:29] <thomasgruebler> yes. the main problem is ubuntu
[14:30] <thomasgruebler> i habe 400mhz pentium 2 and 128mb ram, 12GB hdd
[14:30] <Bauldrick> can i change the way hotplug (or whatever it is) sees the device and mounts it?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> thomasgruebler: try uninstalling what you dont need
[14:30] <thomasgruebler> and for the logon screen i wait very long!
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Bauldrick: you could reinstall hotplug
[14:31] <thomasgruebler> so maybe you know another linux distribution for me for the small laptop.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> thomasgruebler: puppylinux
[14:31] <thomasgruebler> that is easy to set up and has enough drivers
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> thomasgruebler: damnsmalllinux
[14:33] <thomasgruebler> thanks
[14:34] <turtlewind> hi
[14:34] <turtlewind> could someone tell me if there is a way to downgrade firefox back to the most recent beta?
[14:34] <turtlewind> the release candidate breaks one of my extensions
[14:35] <turtlewind> it would be best if I could keep all my settings, bookmarks, extensions etc
[14:35] <jabba_> is there any reason aptitude would segfault when run via sudo and not when run from a root shell?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> turtlewind: uninstall the beta and install 2
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> FF3 isnt supported as its beta and is for testing only
[14:39] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: what about the 3.0 release?
[14:39] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: have you been living under a rock?
[14:39] <turtlewind> OK - how about if I wanted to downgrade a hypothetical other package to the previous version. Are you allowed to tell me how to do that?
[14:40] <turtlewind> or is it a case of uninstalling then reinstalling from dpkg?
[14:41] <pim> turtlewind it is a case of uninstalling and reinstalling
[14:41] <turtlewind> thanks a lot
[14:45] <jabba_> another satisified customer
[14:45] <Malcolm_> I'm atempting to install kubuntu on my usb drive, i extracted the iso to the hdd and used wingrub to boot it but when it starts loading i getcheck root
[14:49] <Malcolm__> >	I'm atempting to install kubuntu on my usb drive, i extracted the iso to the hdd and used wingrub to boot it but when it starts loading i get