[06:45] <tigran> n network the computers dont show but if i access it by smb://ip it does, how can i fix this?
[06:45] <Combatjuan> jmak642: I told you wrong.  I didn't mean Scribus (that's a Pagemaker clone (it still might work for you)) I mean inkscape.  Ah.  Sorry.
[06:45] <perds> Is there any way to get the new version at my current situation tony?
[06:45] <CMA> jesson, anjunta is good ide if you has gnome or xfce, build-essential package has common compilers and some tools
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> perds: yes
[06:46] <vontux> Is there a gui application in ubuntu that allows you to create password protected archive files? I can't seem to find that ability on "ark" , "xarchiver"
[06:46] <davidthedrake> Good evening everyone :)
[06:46] <xp_prg> can someone tell me the easiest way to rip a dvd to a video format small and easy enough to upload to youtube please?
[06:46] <CMA> ramdisk_size for alternate cd installer?
[06:46] <perds> can you guide me tony if you wont mind?
[06:46] <nickrud> perds: you can run this in a terminal:    wget -c http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[06:46] <perds> btw... where did cdm10 go?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> perds: How much RAM do you have?
[06:47] <jesson> how do i run build essential u download it already . sudo apt-get installed build-essential installed already . wat is on it? how do i run it?
[06:47] <vontux> xp_prg: what formats caqn you upload to youtube?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> perds: Do you have a 32-bit or 64-bit processor?
[06:47] <perds> 512 MB tony
[06:47] <vontux> xp_prg: there is .ogg which "thoggen" would create
[06:47] <xp_prg> I think lots
[06:47] <perds> wud that be enough?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> perds: yes
[06:47] <xp_prg> ogg is not video though is it?
[06:47] <perds> ok tony I'll do it
[06:47] <Flannel> jesson: build-essential downloads a bunch of stuff, compilers, libraries, other parts of the standard toolchain.  ARe you trying to compile something?
[06:48] <vontux> xp_prg: it is both audio and video
[06:48] <Combatjuan> xp_prg: Ogg has lots of different codecs, ogg vorbis is audio, ogg theora is video.
[06:48] <nickrud> xp_prg: ogg is a container, it can carry audio or video
[06:48] <Shockman> can someone help pls
[06:48] <Shockman> somehow i erased my /tmp/
[06:48] <jesson> yah i am trying to complie a cpp , how do i make it executable ?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> perds: All right, open up a terminal, and try this: 'wget http://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirror/ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent' (without the quotes)
[06:48] <Combatjuan> It should be possible for perds to just paste a new /etc/apt/sources.list and then update and dist-upgrade, should it not?
[06:48] <Shockman> and now i cant login
[06:48] <CMA> jesson, the compilers are console based, gcc, g++, etc, install anjunta ide, you can search with apt-cache search keyword
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Shockman: /tmp gets erased every time you reboot, for one
[06:48] <Flannel> !compile | jesson
[06:48] <Ubotu> jesson: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:48] <CMA> plase someone help me
[06:49] <CMA> ramdisk_size for alternate cd installer?
[06:49] <zwenx> hey
[06:49] <jesson> so here wat i do g++ helloworld.cpp ? something like that ??
[06:49] <perds> its downloading right now using the first command you suggested tony:)
[06:49] <zwenx> Guys, I have a question please tell me when you guys can help
[06:49] <Shockman> but i erased personally while i was in the session
[06:49] <Scunizi> CMA: 196mg
[06:49] <jesson> where do the output file go?
[06:49] <vontux> Shockman: could you try manually recreating it with a live cd?
[06:49] <Shockman> now i cant login
[06:49] <Combatjuan> jesson: If it is just one file then do "g++ -o <EXENAME> something.cpp"
[06:49] <davidthedrake> !ask | zwenx
[06:49] <Ubotu> zwenx: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:49] <Shockman> vontux: i could if i knew how
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> perds: That will be just a small file that tells another program how to get the rest - we'll get to that in a moment
[06:49] <zwenx> Oh
[06:49] <zwenx> ok lol
[06:49] <zwenx> um ok, first off
[06:49] <Combatjuan> jesson: (Where "<EXENAME>" is what you want to call it and "something.cpp" is the name of the source file.
[06:49] <Shockman> vontux: im using live cd right now
[06:50] <zwenx> my sound card isn't working
[06:50] <tigran> in network the computers dont show but if i access it by smb://ip it does, how can i fix this?
[06:50] <jesson> where do the output file go?
[06:50] <CMA> yes, jesson read the man page plase, install doc off gcc and read the manual, or surf the web google is you friend and it is more extensive
[06:50] <perds> Its at 3% now tony
[06:50] <CMA> s/off/of/
[06:50] <zwenx> my sound card is a Sigmatel Stac9200 HDA ATI
[06:50] <zwenx> and it recofnizes it
[06:50] <Combatjuan> CMA: Is it just me or did you suddenly learn to speak English really well?
[06:50] <zwenx> and i can edit the volume
[06:50] <zwenx> but nothing plays
[06:50] <tigran> jesson: just install code::blocks, its an IDE, a lot easier
[06:50] <vontux> Shockman: pop the ubuntu cd in boot with it...and then mount your hd, and then mkdir /disk name/tmp
[06:50] <ubrnub> is there any way to run md5sum on a livecd?
[06:50] <omturyx_h> tigran, first check if the ip address is pinging. . $ping <IPADD>
[06:50] <CMA> nothing
[06:50] <jmak642> so is there any cad program i can get?
[06:50] <zwenx> anyone? =/
[06:50] <jesson> wat command shud i type to install code block?
[06:51] <perds> btw tony... wud you like me to do the second command you suggested?
[06:51] <CMA> Combatjuan, you are creazy
[06:51] <vontux> Shockman: do you know how to mount?
[06:51] <zwenx> I guess no one will help me ='[
[06:51] <Shockman> can i copy the /tmp/ from the livecd to ubuntu instalation directly_
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> perds: what kind of internet connection do you have btw?
[06:51] <tigran> omturyx_h: it does, i can access it by smb://ip, but the computer doesnt show in Network
[06:51] <zwenx> I hate my life
[06:51] <zwenx> xD
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> perds: as soon as it's done, yes
[06:51] <perds> cable tony
[06:51] <vontux> Shockman: you should be able to, but you need to have the hd mounted
[06:52] <vontux> Shockman: so do you know how to mount?
[06:52] <Shockman> vontux: its already mounted,but i dont previleges to write
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> perds: and you're only at 3% downloading a .torrent file?
[06:52] <jmak642> anyone tried qcad?
[06:52] <vontux> hmmm
[06:52] <tigran> xwenx: did you install the codecs?
[06:52] <perds> its 698MB tony
[06:52] <zwenx> what codecs?
[06:52] <Shockman> doesnt the livecd mount it automaticly?
[06:52] <overclucker> Shockman, where is it mounted?
[06:52] <vontux> Shockman: even using the sudo command?
[06:52] <zwenx> tigran: what codecs
[06:52] <tigran> zwenx:gstream
[06:52] <perds> right now its at 64MB
[06:52] <Shockman> it says disk
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> perds: Ah, you must have either already started getting the torrent, or stripped the .torrent from the filename.  That's fine.
[06:52] <zwenx> hmm would an.. apt-get install gstream
[06:52] <zwenx> do?
[06:52] <overclucker> Shockman, /media/disk?
[06:52] <omturyx_h> which program to run to see a list of packages available?
[06:52] <Combatjuan> zwenx: Try playing a simple .wav file to check and see if it is a codec issue.
[06:53] <Shockman> i see disk in the desktop
[06:53] <zwenx> it doesn't work
[06:53] <overclucker> ok
[06:53] <nickrud> zwenx: on the snd hda, you need to create a file,   /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel ,    and add the single line to it:   options snd_hda_intel model=3stack
[06:53] <vontux> Shockman: unmount it, and remount it and do the copying from the command line
[06:53] <gogeta> ??
[06:53] <gogeta> whats shockman doin\
[06:53] <zwenx> ok hold on
[06:53] <tigran> zwenx: go to add/remove and search gstream and install the codecs then try
[06:53] <Shockman> vontux: i dont know how to do it
[06:53] <overclucker> Shockman, from console do sudo chmod -R 0777 /media/disk
[06:54] <zwenx> ok hold on
[06:54] <gogeta> zewnx ubuntu will automaticly install any missing codecs
[06:54] <Shockman> executing
[06:54] <nickrud> zwenx: or, another model, see http://alsa.opensrc.org/Hda to identify
[06:54] <zwenx> i have gstream
[06:54] <Shockman> taking forever
[06:55] <zwenx> didn't work
[06:55] <vontux> Shockman: open the command line and type "df" and then send me the results that have "/dev" in front of them
[06:55] <davidthedrake> gogeta, zwenx is having less trouble with codecs and more trouble with just getting any sound to play.
[06:55] <Shockman> vontux: hold on,im unmounting
[06:55] <Shockman> done
[06:55] <Shockman> unmounted
[06:55] <Shockman> now what_
[06:55] <Shockman> ?
[06:55] <overclucker> Shockman, from console do sudo chmod -R 0777 /media/disk
[06:55] <vontux> Shockman: open the command line and type "df" and then send me the results that have "/dev" in front of them
[06:55] <overclucker> when mounted
[06:56] <vontux> overclucker: yeah that makes more sense :) clearer directions
[06:56] <overclucker> df | grep /dev
[06:56] <Shockman> its unmounted
[06:56] <nickrud> zwenx: the problem is, you have to reboot to test each module
[06:56] <zwenx> nothing is working
[06:56] <zwenx> yes
[06:56] <zwenx> i have the codecs
[06:56] <zwenx> it recognizes my device
[06:56] <zwenx> but sound will not play
[06:56] <zwenx> i'v been in alsa-mixer
[06:56] <zwenx> turned up all of the bars
[06:56] <zwenx> unmuted them all
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> !enter | zwenx
[06:56] <Ubotu> zwenx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:56] <zwenx> still nothing
[06:56] <Shockman> df
[06:56] <zwenx> cat /proc/asound/modules
[06:56] <zwenx> 0 snd_hda_intel
[06:57] <tigran> omturyx_h: any ideas?
[06:57] <gogeta> zeenx what you tyring to play
[06:57] <nickrud> you need to create a file,   /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel ,    and add the single line to it:   options snd_hda_intel model=3stack or another model, see http://alsa.opensrc.org/Hda to identify
[06:57] <vontux> Shockman: type: df in the terminal, a program under application > accessories called "terminal"
[06:57] <gogeta> mp3?
[06:57] <zwenx> nick
[06:57] <zwenx> i did that
[06:57] <omturyx_h> tigran, sorry .. no. I am not a windows n/w guy.
[06:57] <Shockman> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[06:57] <Shockman> tmpfs                   257844     33788    224056  14% /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile
[06:57] <Shockman> tmpfs                   257844     33788    224056  14% /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile
[06:57] <Shockman> varrun                  257844       124    257720   1% /var/run
[06:57] <Shockman> varlock                 257844         0    257844   0% /var/lock
[06:57] <Shockman> udev                    257844        96    257748   1% /dev
[06:57] <zwenx> i'm using exaile, amarock
[06:57] <zwenx> etc.
[06:57] <Shockman> devshm                  257844         0    257844   0% /dev/shm
[06:58] <imbecile> ok guys, I know nobody wants me to use trevino repo but how do I find key? im going to temporarily use it to install AWN
[06:58] <faileas> eh
[06:58] <nickrud> zwenx: you have to reboot to test, and you have to identify your module
[06:58] <Evanlec> hey so lets say somehow i installed ubuntu onto my external USB Drive that had all my data on it. any reasonable software available to recover my ntfs data?
[06:58] <zwenx> hold on nick
[06:58] <zwenx> so what do i do
[06:58] <zwenx> i made that file
[06:58] <riotkittie> if nobody wants you to use the repo, chances are they have good reason for it, and as such, its unlikely they'll give you a key for it
[06:58] <faileas> Evanlec: testdisk could probably recover some of it
[06:58] <zwenx> do i need anything else?
[06:58] <vontux> Shockman: ok, as expected there since you unmounted, lets see if /dev/sda1 is your hd, type: "blkid /dev/sda1"
[06:58] <faileas> as long as it wasn't overwritten
[06:58] <faileas> erm
[06:58] <Evanlec> faileas, alright, is that freeware?
[06:58] <nickrud> zwenx: no. If you have the right model chosen
[06:58] <imbecile> thats pretty lame
[06:58] <faileas> Evanlec: testdisk ;p
[06:59] <faileas> yup, open source, and in the ubuntu livecd i think
[06:59] <riotkittie> what's lame? not giving you the key?
[06:59] <Evanlec> k
[06:59] <tigran> omturyx_h: k i guess i can live with smb//ip ..w/e
[06:59] <tigran> omturyx_h: thanks anyways
[06:59] <Shockman> vontux
[06:59] <Shockman> overclucker
[06:59] <faileas> it may not be 100%, naturally anything overwritten may be gone
[06:59] <overclucker> hmm
[06:59] <overclucker> ?
[06:59] <vontux> Shockman: yes
[06:59] <Shockman> i unmounted
[06:59] <gogeta> you can get the key easly its called google
[07:00] <Evanlec> faileas, cuz it seems like data recovery software ive used in windows dont even wanna touch the ext3 partition, only wanna do "raw" data recovery
[07:00] <Shockman> and pasted df
[07:00] <imbecile> riotkittie:  yeah pretty much. I KNOW awn works on it.. i tried installing from getdeb and that one is messed up
[07:00] <gogeta> inporting keys is easy
[07:00] <zwenx> so i just must restart?
[07:00] <faileas> Evanlec: wierd. testdisk works on windows for ext3
[07:00] <imbecile> gogeta:  I just need to find the dang thing
[07:00] <gogeta> but if none whats to tell thers a good reasion
[07:00] <overclucker> vontux suggested [aste us "blkid /dev/sda1"
[07:00] <overclucker> paste*
[07:00] <omturyx_h> Try rtools from www.r-tt.com for data recovery....
[07:01] <faileas> you won't be able to read the disk, but it restores it anyway
[07:01] <vontux> Shockman: ok now do what I said so I can see if you have /dev/sda1 as your hd so I can tell you how to remount your hard drive, then you can follow overclucker's instructions
[07:01] <Evanlec> faileas, oh...so since my data on the drive was...well mp3's and stuff, but a lot of windows files, would it be better to run this in windows?
[07:01] <zwenx> hey nick you there?
[07:01] <faileas> Evanlec: TBH dosen't matter
[07:01] <davidthedrake> imbecile, http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/
[07:01] <nickrud> zwenx: to free up the used module, and load the new. Did you go to that page and figure out your model?
[07:01] <davidthedrake> imbecile, Looks like it might help
[07:01] <Shockman> i did "blkid /dev/sda1"
[07:01] <zwenx> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base line 39: ignoring bad line starting with 'options'
[07:01] <Evanlec> k
[07:01] <omturyx_h> faileas, the best one I have seen yet is rtools (www.r-tt.com)
[07:02] <Dark_Rain> morning guys
[07:02] <Evanlec> omturyx, but that isnt free is it?
[07:02] <gogeta> zwebx check your script
[07:02] <Shockman> done blkid /dev/sda1
[07:02] <gogeta> thats script error
[07:02] <vontux> Shockman: were there any results if so put them in here
[07:02] <imbecile> davidthedrake:  DOH! right on the front page.. thx alot
[07:02] <Shockman> no results
[07:02] <zwenx> no i didn't
[07:02] <davidthedrake> imbecile, No prob. I use 'em for my Compiz so yea ;)
[07:02] <zwenx> what must i do?
[07:02] <overclucker> Shockman, what name do you want sda1 mounted as, instead of 'disk'?
[07:02] <omturyx_h> I think so...
[07:03] <davidthedrake> imbecile, Y hablo espanol tambien.
[07:03] <vontux> Shockman: ok try "blkid /dev/sdb1
[07:03] <imbecile> davidthedrake:  no
[07:03] <Shockman> vontux: the drive appears to be mounted
[07:03] <zwenx> nick i'm sorry for sounding like such a noob
[07:03] <nickrud> zwenx: argh, typos, sorry snd-hda-intel
[07:03] <zwenx> please just give me a step by step, that would help
[07:03] <davidthedrake> imbecile, And there are a lot of spanish sites that list Trev as a repo
[07:03] <vontux> Shockman: ok then but didn't you say you unmounted it?
[07:03] <Shockman> i did
[07:03] <overclucker> Shockman, or to list all disks you can do fdisk -l
[07:04] <Shockman> but its there now
[07:04] <imbecile> ahhhh
[07:04] <zwenx> what was the page again? nickrud
[07:04] <vontux> Shockman: if you unmounted it then it is not mounted
[07:04] <Combatjuan> Goodnight everyone.  Happy linuxing.
[07:04] <Shockman>  fdisk -l showed no results
[07:04] <nickrud> zwenx: replace snd_hda_intel with snd-hda-intel , got kernel reporting and module naming mixed up http://alsa.opensrc.org/Hda
[07:04] <Shockman> but i can browse the disk
[07:04] <overclucker> Shockman, how about sudo fdisk -l ?
[07:04] <Shockman> i see it in the desktop
[07:05] <Shockman> !pastebin
[07:05] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:05] <zwenx> nickrud:
[07:05] <gogeta> i think he needs to change his fstab
[07:05] <zwenx> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base line 39: ignoring bad line starting with 'options'
[07:05] <omturyx_h> !pastebin
[07:05] <vontux> overclucker: doh! I can't believe that I forgot that command....
[07:05] <overclucker> heh
[07:06] <Shockman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37169/
[07:06] <overclucker> i kno what u mean
[07:06] <zwenx> nickrud: when i try to execute modprobe snd-hda-intel
[07:06] <zwenx> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base line 39: ignoring bad line starting with 'options'
[07:06] <gogeta> hey shockman is that device ntfs lol
[07:06] <Shockman> hehehe
[07:06] <gogeta> not kidding is it
[07:06] <Shockman> ok
[07:06] <nickrud> zwenx: check your typing, here's an example:  http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-6189.html at the bottom
[07:07] <Shockman> now what
[07:07] <Javid> I'm currently in a livecd of Feisty. Is it possible to install grub on an existing hard drive with this?
[07:07] <vontux> Shockman: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/disk
[07:07] <Shockman> im migrating to ubuntu soon
[07:07] <perds> tonyyarusso.... the download is at 39% now.... btw... how do you make use of firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz on the desktop because I downloaded it before I deleted the old firefox
[07:07] <overclucker> Shockman, now type sudo mount and pastebin it
[07:07] <Javid> I have an XP install that had grub but now grub's giving me error 22
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> perds: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, but you'll have it by default now.
[07:07] <gogeta> javid you reinstalling?
[07:08] <Shockman> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /media/disk
[07:08] <zwenx> nickrud: what was that file you told me to edit before?
[07:08] <overclucker> vontux, did he sudo umount in the first place?
[07:08] <Shockman> see
[07:08] <nickrud> !grub | javid the link would show you
[07:08] <Ubotu> javid the link would show you: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:08] <perds> ok tony.. thanks..
[07:08] <nickrud> zwenx: /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel
[07:08] <vontux> overclucker: he did say that he did
[07:08] <overclucker> Shockman, it this your storage drive?
[07:08] <zwenx> not /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel?
[07:08] <nickrud> zwenx: or the other, you wrote it :)
[07:09] <zwenx> :D
[07:09] <amri> hye all.. how do i disable gaim from autostarting? i cant find it in session...
[07:09] <Shockman> overclucker: storage drive..
[07:09] <gogeta> shockman is it ntfs
[07:09] <overclucker> Shockman, do sudo umount /dev/sda3
[07:10] <Shockman> done
[07:10] <overclucker> Shockman, then do sudo mkdir /media/sda3
[07:10] <gogeta> shockman you will not get ntfs rw on ubuntu
[07:10] <zwenx> nickrud: seems i need monodoc_base am i on the right track?
[07:10] <overclucker> im a conformist, lol
[07:10] <gogeta> without installing ntfs 3g
[07:10] <omturyx_h> is there a channel for kernel related stuff?
[07:10] <Shockman> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sda3': Permission denied
[07:10] <zwenx> su
[07:10] <nickrud> zwenx: that's a bit out in left field
[07:10] <gogeta> sudo lol
[07:10] <Parkin_m9999999> could someone help me with getting my MSI K9AGM2-FIH mobo (With ATI oboard gfx) to display native HDTV 1366x768 resolution??
[07:10] <overclucker> Shockman, sudo
[07:11] <gogeta> parkin install atis drivers
[07:11] <zwenx> nickrud: when u showed me that explample  he uses a command called mod, my OS told me to install that package so i could use "mod"
[07:11] <makaveli> at terminal i type /var/log/syslog and i get a permission denied how do i view this?
[07:11] <Shockman> done
[07:11] <gogeta> sudo
[07:11] <overclucker> Shockman, then do mount -t ext3 /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[07:11] <nickrud> zwenx: modify is what that was
[07:11] <overclucker> sudo *
[07:12] <Shockman> done
[07:12] <zwenx> nickrud: sorry to sound like an ibissal, but.. what do i do?
[07:12] <overclucker> assumong its ext3, he
[07:12] <makaveli> overclucker: when i do sudo /var/log/syslog it says command not found
[07:12] <Shockman> ok
[07:12] <perds> tonyyarusso.... had I not upgraded to newer version of ubuntu and for example I was able to download the new version of firefox in my desktop... wat command should I do to update the firefox from the oldversion?
[07:12] <astro76> makaveli, it's a file so you need to open it with something, try gedit /var/log/syslog
[07:12] <gogeta> perds firefox should update itsself
[07:12] <overclucker> makaveli,  /var/log/syslog isn't a command. . .
[07:12] <makaveli> oh gotcha
[07:12] <zwenx> perds: apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade
[07:13] <overclucker> cat is though
[07:13] <Parkin_m9999999> could someone help me with getting my MSI K9AGM2-FIH mobo (With ATI oboard gfx) to display native HDTV 1366x768 resolution??
[07:13] <Shockman> overclucker: what now?
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> perds: as described on the wiki
[07:13] <vontux> hello, how would I create password protected zip files with a gui app? is there such an application for ubuntu?
[07:13] <gogeta> parkin i told you
[07:13] <perds> gogeta.. It didn't update.. because... I have the old version of ubuntu
[07:13] <nickrud> zwenx: not a command, but an instruction to the user. look at the example. See where it says, model=6stack-digout? you got some kind of stack. Find the right model, modify the file, and get sound :) You have to look at your machine, and slow down.
[07:13] <overclucker> Shockman, now do sudo chmod -R 0777 /media/sda3
[07:13] <Parkin_m9999999> gogeta, i sent you private message
[07:13] <Parkin_m9999999> no response
[07:13] <Parkin_m9999999> (i do not know how to do this)
[07:13] <gogeta> didnt get it
[07:14] <zwenx> nickrud: i am still unsure of where to start =/
[07:14] <erik__> Question.. I can't see anything but my "home" folder. How do i see the other stuff?
[07:14] <TheZanke> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/09/12/0011209.shtml
[07:14] <nickrud> zwenx: at the beginning. Go to the page, find your model. Modify the file in /etc/modprobe.d to match. Several examples are on that page. Reboot to test.
[07:15] <gogeta> parkin what ati card is it
[07:15] <zwenx> nickrud: how do i know which model i am?
[07:15] <Shockman> overclucker: ok
[07:15] <Shockman> overclucker: ready
[07:16] <Parkin_m9999999> pm'd
[07:16] <nickrud> zwenx: look at the page, look at your machine, which describes your machine? That's why I can't take you any further, I can't see your machine
[07:16] <overclucker> now, add the line '/dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ext3 defaults 0 0' to /etc/fstab
[07:16] <zwenx> nickrud: all i see is     *  3stack 3-jack in back and a headphone out
[07:16] <zwenx>     * 3stack-digout 3-jack in back, a HP out and a SPDIF out
[07:16] <zwenx>     * 5stack 5-jack in back, 2-jack in front
[07:16] <zwenx>     * 5stack-digout 5-jack in back, 2-jack in front, a SPDIF out
[07:16] <zwenx>     * 6stack 6-jack in back, 2-jack in front
[07:16] <zwenx>     * 6stack-digout 6-jack with a SPDIF out
[07:16] <zwenx>     * w810 3-jack
[07:16] <zwenx>     * z71v 3-jack (HP shared SPDIF)
[07:16] <zwenx>     * asus 3-jack
[07:16] <zwenx>     * uniwill 3-jack
[07:16] <gogeta> parkin i dont think its working
[07:16] <zwenx>     * F1734 2-jack
[07:16] <astro76> !paste | zwenx
[07:16] <Ubotu> zwenx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <gogeta> i have pigen
[07:16] <overclucker> hehe
[07:17] <_phil_> i kernel 2.6.22-11-generic installed and restricted-modules to the kernel. but unfortunately my wlan-interface will not be recognized from iwlist. what am i missing? it works with kernel 2.6.20-16.
[07:17] <gogeta> hears fine thow
[07:17] <gogeta> what ati is it
[07:17] <Parkin_m9999999> gogeta:its the onboard gfx for MSI K9AGM2-FIH
[07:17] <zwenx> nickrud: all i see are a whole bunch of .. 3dstab and stuff
[07:17] <gogeta> you can type lspci to see if you dont knoe
[07:17] <Parkin_m9999999>  http://msicomputer.co.uk/index.php?func=prodfaq&prod_no=1165&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=#menu
[07:17] <gogeta> yea but what model
[07:17] <Parkin_m9999999> aah
[07:17] <Parkin_m9999999> erm not sure
[07:17] <zwenx> nickrud: i know your still there and i'm grateful for your help ^^
[07:18] <Shockman> ok,whats next
[07:18] <Parkin_m9999999> type lspci?
[07:18] <gogeta> well then do lspci
[07:18] <zwenx> nickrud: but i feel like i'm getting no where
[07:18] <Parkin_m9999999> terminal?
[07:18] <Shockman> /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ext3 defaults 0 0' to /etc/fstab
[07:18] <overclucker> now, see if you can move files to sda3
[07:18] <gogeta> you should see something like this
[07:18] <gogeta> 00:09.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200]  (Secondary) (rev 01)
[07:18] <trojan_co> trojan_co gatel
[07:18] <nickrud> zwenx: it describes what's on the machine. What's on your machine (I sound like a credit card commercial)
[07:18] <gogeta> yea
[07:18] <overclucker> Shockman, hopefully minus the single quote
[07:19] <zwenx> nickrud: sorry but.. what describes what's on my machine?
[07:19] <zwenx> nickrud: i sound like an idiot -.-
[07:19] <riotkittie> cigarette ashes are on my machine :o
[07:19] <Shockman> i copied exactly like this /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 ext3 defaults 0 0' to /etc/fstab
[07:19] <nickrud> zwenx: um, it says,  3-jack in back, a HP out and a SPDIF out <-- that's a description of a machine
[07:19] <Parkin_m9999999> 01:05.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7919
[07:20] <gogeta> thats the sound card
[07:20] <overclucker> Shockman, remove the single quote from end
[07:20] <Parkin_m9999999> LOL
[07:20] <gogeta> looks for display
[07:20] <Shockman> overclucker: it works
[07:20] <Parkin_m9999999> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 791e
[07:20] <Shockman> but
[07:20] <vontux> hello, how would I create password protected zip files with a gui app? is there such an application for ubuntu?
[07:20] <Parkin_m9999999> sry i cpy paste wrong line ;)
[07:20] <gogeta> it doesent knoe
[07:20] <gogeta> humm
[07:20] <Shockman> some files i cant move but the have a lock
[07:20] <theone> hey anyone know how to get dual monitor support up and running?
[07:20] <gogeta> knoe what pc it is
[07:20] <Shockman> *they
[07:20] <gogeta> can chick what it comes with
[07:20] <zwenx> nickrud: sorry about that i'm back
[07:20] <gogeta> check
[07:20] <overclucker> Shockman, where are the files, sda3?
[07:21] <Parkin_m9999999> sorry i dont understand gogeta
[07:21] <_phil_> hej.
[07:21] <Krimpet> hmm, for some reason half the time if i switch over to a virtual terminal from X, then switch back, X crashes -- is there any particular reason this would be happening?
[07:21] <gogeta> what model pc it is
[07:21] <Parkin_m9999999> do you mean what model motherboard?
[07:21] <gogeta> no pc model
[07:21] <Parkin_m9999999> i built pc myself...
[07:21] <gogeta> like dell xps 1000
[07:21] <gogeta> oh
[07:21] <nickrud> zwenx: there's not much more I can do, other than suggest you put a bunch of pictures on the web somewhere :)
[07:21] <Ants> Shockman: are you trying to mount a disk?
[07:21] <gogeta> well what moterbord works
[07:21] <gogeta> if you knoe
[07:21] <Shockman> copying livecd /tmp/ to sda3 /tmp/
[07:21] <Parkin_m9999999> yeah i know
[07:21] <Parkin_m9999999> sec
[07:21] <Shockman> so far so good
[07:22] <Parkin_m9999999> this one:
[07:22] <zwenx> nickrud: please explain in laymans terms what i need to do, for example, do i need to look at how many ports i have, or type in something? or what?
[07:22] <Parkin_m9999999> http://msicomputer.co.uk/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1165&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=
[07:22] <overclucker> Shockman, is sda3 have linux on it?
[07:22] <Shockman> yea
[07:22] <nickrud> zwenx: it describes the ports you have. If you don't know what an spif port looks like, google for a picture
[07:22] <nickrud> *spdif
[07:22] <Shockman> lets hope this works
[07:22] <overclucker> heh
[07:23] <Shockman> otherwise i have to install from fresh
[07:23] <gogeta> odd it doesent say what video controler it has
[07:23] <Parkin_m9999999> yea :/
[07:23] <zwenx> nickrud: so basically i have to do "modprobe snd_hda_intel model = something"
[07:23] <Parkin_m9999999> this is why i am posting lol
[07:23] <davidthedrake> nickrud, is there anything advantageous to using the spdif port to the regular headphone/speaker jack? I have both and was wondering if you might know.
[07:23] <overclucker> Shockman, are you on the distro you are copying?
[07:24] <theone> spdif is better quality
[07:24] <Shockman> yea
[07:24] <nickrud> zwenx: if you don't have the module running yet, sure that will work. If the module's loaded and something's trying to use it, rmmod -f might take it out
[07:24] <Shockman> is that ok?
[07:24] <Parkin_m9999999> gogeta: any ideas?
[07:24] <overclucker> Shockman, you might get stuck on kcore
[07:24] <gogeta> hyea
[07:24] <gogeta> found it
[07:24] <gogeta> its a readion x serise
[07:24] <nickrud> davidthedrake: spdif is better quality
[07:24] <Shockman> how do i get around that?
[07:25] <overclucker> Shockman, boot to live cd then copy
[07:25] <zwenx> nickrud: ok i have SPDIF it seems, what do i do now?
[07:25] <davidthedrake> nickrud, *shrug* Fair 'nuf.
[07:25] <limejuic1> hmm:(
[07:25] <gogeta> x1250
[07:25] <Shockman> overclucker: im on live cd
[07:25] <nickrud> zwenx: experiment
[07:25] <vontux> hello, how would I create password protected zip files with a gui app? is there such an application for ubuntu?
[07:25] <overclucker> oh hmm
[07:25] <Shockman> thats how i got here
[07:25] <zwenx> nickrud: what are the model names?
[07:25] <Shockman> :)
[07:25] <zwenx> nickrud: for SPDIF
[07:25] <gogeta> pretty new card
[07:26] <nickrud> zwenx: the page.
[07:26] <Parkin_m9999999> any way to get around this problem?
[07:26] <Parkin_m9999999> it would be really nice to have the real resolution for my screen
[07:26] <gogeta> i dont think it can display hd
[07:26] <Shockman> overclucker: i copied /tmp/ from livecd to replace what i erased in /tmp/
[07:26] <gogeta> under linux
[07:26] <davidthedrake> I'd like to say for the record: having Ubuntu on your laptop rules. That is all.
[07:26] <gogeta> lemmie look more
[07:26] <zwenx> nickrud: one last thing, what is a 5-jack and a 2-jack?
[07:26] <overclucker> lol
[07:26] <nickrud> zwenx: ah, now that's why I suggest experimentation
[07:26] <overclucker> Shockman, howd you erase tmp?
[07:26] <Parkin_m9999999> it has HDMI output, but i would settle for VGA output (as long as at native res)
[07:26] <jmak642> davidthedrake: i know, but what sucks is i gave my laptop to my brother so now i only have my desktop
[07:26] <Shockman> manually
[07:27] <overclucker> heh
[07:27] <Shockman> i was doing spring cleaning
[07:27] <zwenx> nickrud: ok how should i exprement? try all the different models? that have SPDIF?
[07:27] <Shockman> for space
[07:27] <overclucker> lol
[07:27] <nickrud> zwenx: sure
[07:27] <gogeta> parkin you can install atis drivers
[07:27] <davidthedrake> jmak642, Oooo... that sucks. Get two monitors so you can pwn him. Ubuntu + Compiz + Monitor*2 = pwn.
[07:27] <Shockman> guess i overdid it
[07:27] <gogeta> but you whont be able to use compiz
[07:27] <Parkin_m9999999> what is compiz?
[07:27] <gogeta> 3d desktop
[07:27] <zwenx> nickrud: i'll get back to you hold on a sec
[07:27] <Shockman> gogeta: me
[07:27] <overclucker> Shockman, did you look in .Trash?
[07:27] <Shockman> ?
[07:27] <jmak642> davidthedrake: i run at 1920x1200, no reason for dual display
[07:27] <Parkin_m9999999> ok that is no problem
[07:27] <Ants> compiz begat beryl
[07:27] <Parkin_m9999999> and how do i install atis driver?
[07:28] <Evanlec> compiz works on two monitors only with nvidia cards :(
[07:28] <Shockman> let me see
[07:28] <_phil_> i have kernel 2.6.22-11-generic installed and restricted-modules to the kernel. but unfortunately my wlan-interface will not be recognized from iwlist. what am i missing? it works with kernel 2.6.20-16.
[07:28] <gogeta> sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[07:28] <Parkin_m9999999> (did you find a link about it - maybe you could post it also?)
[07:28] <davidthedrake> jmak642, I used to think the same thing. I love my CRT ub3r resolution. However, having two discreet desktops to work on is fucking priceless.
[07:28] <jmak642> davidthedrake: though i trying to strongarm my dell account exec into giving me another one of these sweet 24 inchers and a dual mount
[07:28] <gogeta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:28] <Shockman> where is the trash folder?
[07:28] <gogeta> then you should just check fglx
[07:28] <NT> how can u list the different subchannels here
[07:28] <Evanlec> _phil_, can i ask why you upgraded your kernel ?
[07:28] <astro76> Shockman, what are you trying to do? you don't need anything in /tmp, it can all be safely deleted
[07:28] <Parkin_m9999999> ok great, one sec :)
[07:28] <_phil_> gogeta: is up to date.
[07:28] <gogeta> it should work
[07:28] <davidthedrake> jmak642, I totally feel you though :)
[07:29] <zwenx> nickrud: i keep getting this error WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base line 39: ignoring bad line starting with 'options'
[07:29] <_phil_> Evanlec: just because the 2.6.20-16 has a problem with overheating.
[07:29] <Shockman> astro76: i deleted it manually while in the session
[07:29] <davidthedrake> jmak642, You can get 1400x900 flat panels for $200 or less now.
[07:29] <Shockman> and i now i cant login
[07:29] <gogeta> phil
[07:29] <nickrud> zwenx: you have a typo. I've given you some good examples.  But 19" for 200 bux or less. Let's be real. :)
[07:30] <nimrodicus23> what kind of wireless tools does the ubuntu liveCD come with?
[07:30] <astro76> Shockman, oh you deleted the actual directory, just need go to where it's mounted under your livecd, and mkdir tmp
[07:30] <gogeta> acpi=off
[07:30] <perds> tonyyarusso..... Its done downloading the iso file
[07:30] <_phil_> Evanlec: my notebook gets really hot using 2.6.20-16 and it gets really loud.
[07:30] <gogeta> and if some devices whont power up
[07:30] <_phil_> gogeta: i need acpi.
[07:30] <gogeta> acpi=off apm=off
[07:30] <overclucker> nimrodicus23, wireless-tools
[07:30] <perds> I did not understand why it has to have 3 ETA
[07:30] <nimrodicus23> sweet
[07:30] <Shockman> astro76: i tried that before
[07:30] <nickrud> Shockman: and sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[07:30] <Shockman> didnt work
[07:31] <gogeta> well better then melting your laptop
[07:31] <jmak642> davidthedrake: you may be right, where are you gettin these 19's?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> perds: 3 what?
[07:31] <davidthedrake> jmak642, You seen the new Dell ub3r flat-screens that are completely clear in design but offer ridiculous resolutions?
[07:31] <Parkin_m9999999> *just installing (thanks so much for helping btw gogeta)
[07:31] <gogeta> let the bios handel the power managment
[07:31] <davidthedrake> jmak642, Newegg has 'em
[07:31] <astro76> Shockman, what did you try? probably need sudo mkdir
[07:31] <mikubuntu> is there any fix to music files 'skipping' when i try to multitask on my dell lat 600?
[07:31] <Evanlec> gogeta, do you think thats a good idea in general with feisty?
[07:31] <davidthedrake> jmak642, And Bestbuy had 'em for 169 for Clearance at some stores.
[07:31] <gogeta> parkin you will probly need to restart it for it to take effect
[07:31] <perds> at 73%.... it has an ETA 10:32am
[07:31] <jmak642> davidthedrake: nah i havent seen these dells either
[07:31] <gogeta> then you should be able to get the high rez
[07:31] <Parkin_m9999999> ok
[07:31] <davidthedrake> jmak642, They're not in mass production that I know of, but they're hot as hell.
[07:32] <perds> at 100% its has ETA of 00:00
[07:32] <jmak642> davidthedrake: dell is on my hatemail list these days
[07:32] <Shockman> astro76: i created the dir /tmp/ but it still complains about something
[07:32] <davidthedrake> jmak642, Why so?
[07:32] <Shockman> related to /tmp/
[07:32] <jmak642> davidthedrake: well, 6 weeks ago we placed an order for 12 laptops
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> perds: erm, that's how many minutes:seconds are left, not time of day
[07:32] <Shockman> whats this for?  sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[07:32] <jmak642> davidthedrake: and as of this afternoon they had not shipped
[07:32] <davidthedrake> jmak642, Ubuntu equipped ones?
[07:32] <perds> ohh ok
[07:32] <nickrud> Shockman: the permissions needed by tmp
[07:32] <astro76> Shockman, yeah do that, it might be the problem
[07:32] <nimrodicus23> how can I discover wireless networks with the liveCD?
[07:32] <Parkin_m9999999> brb :)
[07:32] <jmak642> davidthedrake: nah, winblows ones from their medium business division
[07:32] <nimrodicus23> I can't seem to get wireless-tools to work
[07:33] <_phil_> gogeta Evanlec what is wrong about using 2.6.22-11?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> perds: Now just insert a blank CD-R into your drive, right-click the ISO file in Gnome, and select "burn to disk"
[07:33] <jmak642> nimrodicus23: what wireless card do you have?
[07:33] <macogw> jmak642: that's been happening a bit.  someone on the loco mailing list ordered over 2 months ago and gets a call every monday from a robot telling him it'll be another week.  he finally canceled the order
[07:33] <nimrodicus23> it's the one built into the M2N32 SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
[07:33] <astro76> Shockman, /tmp needs to be SUID but owned by root, meaning a file created by a user in /tmp can be modified by that user but no one else
[07:33] <Evanlec> _phil_, nothing i guess but it seems like its causing you some issues
[07:33] <Shockman> hmm
[07:33] <jmak642> macogw: yeah i called lenovo today
[07:33] <nimrodicus23> And that's an Asus board
[07:33] <jmak642> has anyone had any experience with lenovo
[07:33] <astro76> Shockman, so you might need to chown root:root your tmp also
[07:33] <nimrodicus23> that it came with
[07:34] <Evanlec> _phil_, any other advantages in that kernel release besides the overheating thing?
[07:34] <davidthedrake> jmak642, Ahh... fair 'nuff.  Sorry to hear that. A friend of mine ordered one of the Ubuntu ones at 10am the moment they went on sale. He's like it a lot. But, I bought a 700 dollar HP from Best Buy that runs it better
[07:34] <perds> ok tony
[07:34] <macogw> jmak642: nice keyboards on their laptops
[07:34] <_phil_> Evanlec: no.
[07:34] <nimrodicus23> Ubuntu recognizes it, and let's me enter in networks, but I don't know of any networks around me
[07:34] <Shockman> astro76: i dont know how to all that
[07:34] <riotkittie> ugh. dell. :|    i had the misfortune of stopping at their kiosk the other day.
[07:34] <nimrodicus23> I'm wondering if there's a tool that will show me networks that are nearby
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[07:34] <Ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:34] <_phil_> Evanlec: but i do not want to have a notebook which is loud like hell and hot like hell. i cannot work with such thing.
[07:34] <jmak642> nimrodicus23: do you know if there are in fact any networks present?
[07:35] <Evanlec> _phil_, right, well makes sense i guess
[07:35] <davidthedrake> Sorry tonyyarusso
[07:35] <perds> tonyyarusso after burning this CD... this would be my startup disk right ?
[07:35] <gogeta> i hope thast driver doesne crash on the poor guy lol
[07:35] <nimrodicus23> jmak642, yes I do
[07:35] <nimrodicus23> I know there are several available
[07:36] <gwylly> Hi, I have 'deb file:/path /' in my sources.list, but getting errors like 'Failed to fetch file:/path//path/xxx.deb  File not found' when using apt. Any ideas?
[07:36] <_phil_> Evanlec: perhaps i should switch back to debian and configure the restricted modules wie module-assistant myself. that worked. just tried to give ubuntu a chance.
[07:36] <Shockman> how do i open sda3 in command line?
[07:36] <overclucker> Shockman, cd /media/sda3
[07:36] <Shockman> so that i can do this sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[07:36] <jmak642> nimrodicus23: it will show anything it can reasonably connect to on the network manager from what i have seen, but i am sure there are some folks here that can show you a scanner.  i had a problem with the card i use where the machine seemed to recognize it but it couldnt see any networks.  i had to change the driver.  search on the ubunto forums after you figure out the exact model of the wifi chip
[07:36] <gogeta> shockman
[07:36] <gogeta> ?
[07:36] <jmak642> s/ubunto/ubuntu
[07:36] <nimrodicus23> I know for a fact the wifi card works
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> perds: yes
[07:37] <overclucker> Shockman, do sudo chmod 1777 /media/sda3/tmp
[07:37] <jmak642> how?
[07:37] <nimrodicus23> it gives me the option to switch over to it
[07:37] <nimrodicus23> and there's a bar that represents signal strength
[07:37] <Shockman> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/sda3/tmp': Operation not permitted
[07:37] <nimrodicus23> and it goes up and down throughout the day
[07:37] <_phil_> thanks for trying to help.
[07:37] <Stui> greetings all :D
[07:37] <Evanlec> _phil_, yea, im not sure, i havent recompiled any kernels since redhat 7 ;p
[07:37] <Shockman> sudo
[07:37] <perds> thanks tony..... youre such a big help
[07:37] <Shockman> i forget
[07:37] <overclucker> heh
[07:37] <_phil_> bye.
[07:37] <perds> I'll just wait for this cd to finish burning
[07:37] <jmak642> nimrodicus23: yah, i'm not sure i can help, i dont know enough about linux yet
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> perds: np
[07:38] <Shockman> done
[07:38] <Stui> I was hoping someone could help me out with an issue I'm having trying to start monodevelop
[07:38] <nimrodicus23> k, I just switched over to the wireless card, and it said, "This network requires security"
[07:38] <nimrodicus23> so I know it's able to see networks, but it won't let me choose which ones
[07:38] <Shockman> so,if everything is ok,this should work
[07:38] <jmak642> hmm
[07:38] <nickrud> gwylly: if you've set up the packages.gz already , it'd be 'deb file:/path ./
[07:39] <Shockman> overclucker: anything else?
[07:39] <fatcatmatt> custom computer here...how do i get the proper sound driver?
[07:39] <Shockman> astro76
[07:39] <overclucker> not sure
[07:39] <Shockman> ok,time to reset
[07:39] <astro76> Shockman, that should do it
[07:40] <jmak642> nimrodicus23: try an app called swscanner
[07:40] <Shockman> astro76: it was the permission to write in /tmp/ that needed to changed
[07:40] <Shockman> astro76: right?
[07:40] <nimrodicus23> kk
[07:40] <nimrodicus23> it should be on the liveCD shouldn't it?
[07:41] <astro76> Shockman, yes
[07:41] <Shockman> im new
[07:41] <Shockman> ok
[07:41] <Shockman> brb
[07:41] <Shockman> thanks everyone
[07:41] <jmak642> nimrodicus23: its in the repository, try to install it from the synaptic package manager under system>administration
[07:42] <davina> its time to give up those hacked copies of vista a stick with ubuntu http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9035478
[07:42] <gogeta> LOL
[07:42] <gwylly> nickrud: Just tried that, not working. Exact line is 'deb file:/media/sda5/packages ./'
[07:43] <nickrud> gwylly: go over this page, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal and check your setup
[07:43] <gwylly> nickrud: Ok, and thank you
[07:43] <gogeta> parkin is back
[07:43] <Parkin_m9999999> hi
[07:43] <gogeta> guess it worked
[07:43] <Parkin_m9999999> erm
[07:43] <Parkin_m9999999> well it doesnt let me have 1366
[07:43] <Parkin_m9999999> only 1280
[07:43] <Parkin_m9999999> :/
[07:44] <Parkin_m9999999> 1280*720
[07:44] <riaal> Know it is offtopic but what is fedoras version of ubuntus apt-get? (running it on my ps3)
[07:44] <gogeta> yea 720p isnt it
[07:44] <Parkin_m9999999> i just checked my xorg.conf file
[07:44] <Parkin_m9999999> and this is blank(?)
[07:44] <davina> riaal i think its yum
[07:44] <gogeta> you can add that rez if you whant
[07:44] <gogeta> but it might fail
[07:44] <jmak642> davidthedrake: whoa i almost just rammed a cigarette into my lcd!
[07:44] <perds> tonyyarusso: I can't find the ISO file that I've just downloaded? you mentioned another command after performing the wget -c http://releases.......what was that agaain?
[07:45] <Parkin_m9999999> my hdtv says: mode not supported for 1280*720
[07:45] <Parkin_m9999999> but native resolution of it is 1366*768
[07:45] <davidthedrake> jmak642, And why, good sir, would you try to accomplish a feat such as that?
[07:45] <nickrud> speaking of lcd screens, what's the best cleaning solution?
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> perds: do you still have the terminal up?
[07:45] <gogeta> odd hdtv
[07:45] <Parkin_m9999999> and also now my xorg.conf file is blank(this a problem?)
[07:45] <perds> yes
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> perds: what's the output of 'pwd' ?
[07:45] <jmak642> davidthedrake: well i was reading that page about the black screen of darkness and going for the ashtray
[07:45] <davidthedrake> Parkin_m9999999, Having a blank xorg.conf file is usually a very bad thing.
[07:46] <Parkin_m9999999> :/
[07:46] <gogeta> he enabled fglx
[07:46] <perds> /home/perds.... tony
[07:46] <gogeta> try closing it
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> perds: Okay, so go to Places > Home Folder, and you should see it
[07:46] <davidthedrake> jmak642, Ahaha... ha... ha... *wipes away the almost existent fake tear* black screen...
[07:46] <overclucker> Parkin_m9999999, make sure you are looking in the right dir. . .
[07:46] <Shockman> it worked!
[07:46] <davidthedrake> jmak642, ;)
[07:46] <Shockman> :D
[07:46] <overclucker> heh
[07:46] <gogeta> yea no config x would not have loaded
[07:46] <Parkin_m9999999> is xorg.conf a typical file that i can just copy paste back in
[07:46] <Parkin_m9999999> ?
[07:46] <gogeta> its defebntly there
[07:46] <Parkin_m9999999> /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <Shockman> astro76: there was 1 complaint however
[07:47] <gogeta> lol
[07:47] <Parkin_m9999999> it opens... but it is blank
[07:47] <Parkin_m9999999> :/
[07:47] <gogeta> etc/X11
[07:47] <perds> ok tony its there.... thanks...
[07:47] <gogeta> linux is cap sentiv
[07:47] <perds> I'm going to burn it now... and install
[07:47] <perds> thanks again
[07:47] <Parkin_m9999999> hmm i think i had caps
[07:47] <perds> bye for now
[07:47] <Parkin_m9999999> *trys*
[07:47] <Shockman> astro76: $home /.dmrc
[07:47] <overclucker> Parkin_m9999999, check
[07:47] <davidthedrake> jmak642, As long as the GIANT LCD didn't get burned then everyone is okay right? ;)
[07:47] <perds> bye guys... have fun
[07:47] <gogeta> it has to be there x would not have loaded
[07:47] <Shockman> something to do with home/ .dmrc
[07:48] <jmak642> davidthedrake: i hit the border, i missed by like 2mm, i'm real shaky
[07:48] <gogeta> and it defently did
[07:48] <astro76> Shockman, we would need to see the complete error message
[07:48] <Parkin_m9999999> LOL such a linux noob
[07:48] <Parkin_m9999999> ok it is here :p
[07:48] <gogeta> LOL
[07:48] <Shockman> i couldnt copy
[07:48] <Parkin_m9999999> XD
[07:48] <theone> what is the best way to get dual monitors working with nvidia card?
[07:48] <ticus> hi i have a problem trying to install a driver with ndiswrapper, I try to remove the existing driver to instal the new one, can any bodye help me plz
[07:48] <davidthedrake> jmak642, 2mm? That's pretty damned close. You should be more careful ;)
[07:48] <Parkin_m9999999> but already has:
[07:48] <Parkin_m9999999> des		"1280x720"	"1366x768"	"1280x1024"	"1024x768"	"832x624"	"800x600"	"720x400"	"640x480"
[07:48] <gogeta> and that ati driver i dont think has working tv out
[07:48] <overclucker> Parkin_m9999999, we all slip on caps from time to time. .
[07:48] <Shockman> it was back in the GDM
[07:49] <Parkin_m9999999> *		Modes		"1280x720"	"1366x768"	"1280x1024"	"1024x768"	"832x624"	"800x600"	"720x400"	"640x480"
[07:49] <gogeta> oh
[07:49] <gogeta> then its ready
[07:49] <gogeta> just change your rez to that
[07:49] <gogeta> system, prefrences screen reslution
[07:49] <Parkin_m9999999> no 1366 in the drop down box
[07:49] <Parkin_m9999999> :/
[07:50] <nickrud> Shockman: you need to make .dmrc readable only by you;   sudo chown you:you ~/.dmrc && chmod 600 ~/.dmrc
[07:50] <Parkin_m9999999> sry for being such a pain btw
[07:50] <Parkin_m9999999> <_<
[07:50] <gogeta> your 3d acell should be working to
[07:51] <gogeta> expect compiz
[07:51] <Parkin_m9999999> advice on what i should do?
[07:51] <gogeta> ?
[07:51] <gogeta> did you check screen reslution
[07:51] <gogeta> it should be there
[07:51] <Parkin_m9999999> of my monitor?
[07:51] <gogeta> it reads those modes
[07:51] <gogeta> yea
[07:51] <Parkin_m9999999> i know monitor supports that res yea
[07:51] <gogeta> thats what you whant right
[07:52] <Parkin_m9999999> yeah the native res is 1366*768
[07:52] <Shockman> if wanted to make a backup of this how do i do it  /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:52] <gogeta> well the modes there
[07:52] <Parkin_m9999999> i had it working under windows before at this res
[07:52] <gogeta> just change it in prefrences
[07:52] <nickrud> copy it to a cd
[07:52] <davidthedrake> Wow. Cool to think there's 1000+ people in here at the wee hours of the mornin'
[07:52] <jmak642> when i go in gnome to system>quit, i dont have options for shutdown or restart, how do i get those back?
[07:52] <nickrud> davidthedrake: for you wee hours, maybe
[07:53] <kidbuntu> some help please. how can i change my splash screen. i downloaded chrome-theme.so.tar.gz from gnome look org
[07:53] <davidthedrake> nickrud, True. Where you at?
[07:53] <Parkin_m9999999> could it have something to do with refresh rate
[07:53] <Parkin_m9999999> or vsync?
[07:53] <nickrud> !usplash | kidbuntu
[07:53] <Ubotu> kidbuntu: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:53] <gogeta> humm
[07:53] <nickrud> davidthedrake: west coast usa
[07:53] <Parkin_m9999999> maybe i need to configure some extra stuff?
[07:53] <Shockman> what is this sudo: must be setuid root
[07:53] <gogeta> no if the modes there
[07:53] <gogeta> it should load it
[07:54] <davidthedrake> nickrud, Gotcha. I'm in Mountain. But I work in eye-tea for a living so I gotta be up and running by 10/11 in the am.
[07:54] <fatcatmatt> kidbuntu: search add/remove for splash screen.  i have it installed on mine.  after installed, it's under System > Prefs
[07:54] <nickrud> Shockman: what did you do to your permissions :)
[07:54] <Parkin_m9999999> this is the monitor --> http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/924634/Samsung-32-LE32R74BDX-XEU-Freeview-HD-Ready-Widescreen-IDTV-LCD-TV/Product.html
[07:54] <Parkin_m9999999> (just so u know im not making 1366*768 up :P )
[07:54] <Shockman> i cant do sudo -s
[07:54] <fatcatmatt> im working on a laptop that has nothing working...sound, wifi...just got the video fixed
[07:55] <Shockman> oh oh
[07:55] <davidthedrake> Parkin_m9999999, That's a pretty ridiculous resolution, I must say.
[07:55] <Parkin_m9999999> 1366*768 is quite a standard resolution for widescreen hdtvs
[07:55] <nickrud> Shockman: back in the live cd , sudo -i  ;  chmod u+s /path/to/mount/usr/bin/sudo
[07:55] <gogeta> iis the 1336 rez on a diffrent mode?
[07:55] <ticus_> hi
[07:55] <Shockman> nickrud: im no longer in the livecd
[07:55] <Parkin_m9999999> i have had it run 1366 under windows through vga
[07:55] <Parkin_m9999999> so i dont think so
[07:56] <Ants> omg. that's the rez for a 32' wide?????
[07:56] <gogeta> you can add it as your first mode on your display
[07:56] <nickrud> Shockman: you will be as soon as it boots back up; although you might be able to do this in recovery mode
[07:56] <fatcatmatt> ants...32'?!
[07:56] <davidthedrake> Parkin_m9999999, Ahhh..... fair 'nuff. I don't watch much T.V. Find that it rots the brain quicker than meth. And that's a terrible drug.
[07:56] <gogeta> linux should load it by defult then
[07:56] <Ants> sorry, 32"
[07:56] <Shockman> nickrud: im in the installed ubuntu
[07:56] <kidbuntu> nickrud: are the steps still the same with edgy?
[07:56] <Ants> hahah
[07:56] <fatcatmatt> lol ants
[07:56] <nickrud> Shockman: do you have a root password?
[07:56] <Shockman> yeas
[07:57] <Parkin_m9999999> yeah its 720p
[07:57] <nickrud> kidbuntu: I'm not sure, but I think so
[07:57] <fatcatmatt> ill search, ants
[07:57] <Parkin_m9999999> hmm, kinda at a loss now
[07:57] <AArchnix> Hiya... trying to update from clean install, it seems that ca.archive.ubuntu.com is down. Anyone have another?
[07:57] <nickrud> Shockman: then you can just go to root and do      chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[07:57] <Parkin_m9999999> got it in the conf file but not showing up under the drop down
[07:57] <Parkin_m9999999> gonna restart see if that wakes it up
[07:57] <Parkin_m9999999> brb
[07:57] <nickrud> Shockman: suid root means that whoever runs it, it runs with root permissions
[07:57] <gogeta> lol
[07:58] <fatcatmatt> ants: A built-in NTSC/ATSC tuner means you can watch both analog and digital programming at the widescreen (16:9) display panel's 1366 x 768 pixel (720p) native resolution, which is perfect for HDTV content.
[07:58] <fatcatmatt> ants: http://www2.shopping.com/xPO-Panasonic-TC-32LX70
[07:58] <Ants> fatcatmatt: wow. i did not know that.
[07:58] <Shockman> nickrud: i tried  gksudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[07:58] <stjepan> anyone knows what's the player on this screenshot? http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6811/dirtyoq5.png
[07:58] <gogeta> hdtv = high def trash video
[07:58] <gogeta> lol
[07:58] <Shockman> still cant switch to root
[07:59] <Parkin_m9999999> *baffled*
[07:59] <AArchnix> Shockman: Why gksudo, that's for graphical programs only, no?
[07:59] <gogeta> look at display 0
[07:59] <gogeta> see what modes its using
[07:59] <AArchnix> i.e. gksudo gedit, but sudo chmod
[07:59] <Parkin_m9999999> how to look at display 0?
[07:59] <gogeta> in your xorg config
[07:59] <Shockman> because  chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
[07:59] <Shockman> didnt work
[07:59] <dxm_> what is this error in the inicialization of compiz fusion
[07:59] <dxm_> texture_from_pixmap support
[08:00] <nickrud> Shockman: sudo is sudo , you have to change the permissions of sudo and sudo can't do that right now
[08:00] <Shockman> hmm
[08:00] <dxm_> Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support
[08:00] <Shockman> so,how do i it?
[08:00] <nickrud> Shockman: have a true root password, boot into recovery mode, or boot the live cd is the only ways
[08:00] <gogeta> you should see section screen
[08:00] <nemik> did they new libpam update in gutsy break anything for anyone?
[08:00] <gogeta> and the modes its using
[08:01] <AArchnix> nikrun: I though gksudo just called sudo, is that really a workaround? What about logging in as root and changing sudo, then reseting it to default. Just brainstorming.
[08:01] <nickrud> AArchnix: if he had a root password, it'd work.
[08:01] <jmak642> what is the release date for gutsy?
[08:01] <Shockman> nickrud: once in the livecd what do i do?
[08:01] <riotkittie> wee. i am either totally amazing or have messed what little success with my adapter i've had, up.  in a moment, i shall know. oooh, ahhh.
[08:01] <AArchnix> nikrud: sorry, you're too quick ;)
[08:01] <nickrud> AA you just came in late, and a sec, I have some links for mirrors
[08:02] <AArchnix> Cool... thanks.
[08:02] <dxm_> somebody can help me? what's is this error? Fatal: Failed test: texture_from_pixmap support
[08:02] <Parkin_m9999999_> now after the restart other resolutions arent showing.... (w t f lol)
[08:02] <Parkin_m9999999_> how to look at display 0?
[08:02] <nickrud> AArchnix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[08:02] <nemik> did they new libpam update in gutsy break anything for anyone?
[08:02] <AArchnix> Many thanks nickrud.
[08:02] <kidbuntu> fatcatmatt: how i'm gonna install my downloaded splash screens
[08:02] <Shockman> brb
[08:02] <Naisenu> hrm i think i has broken nvidia drivers, results of "glxinfo | grep version" are here: http://attachr.com/9562
[08:02] <nickrud> Shockman: try booting into recovery first
[08:03] <riotkittie> apparently, i did neither.  :]
[08:03] <dxm_> nickrud, help?
[08:03] <fatcatmatt> kidbuntu: did you search for that in the add/remove?
[08:03] <nickrud> dxm_: not a clue, without context. And honestly, probably not then. What are you running?
[08:03] <jetscreamer> Naisenu: did you ever apt-get install nvidia-glx or whatever?
[08:04] <kidbuntu> fatcatmatt: yes i did. and i just installed it.  i saw it right in system--->splash screens. after that theres nothing to choose from
[08:04] <dxm_> nickrud, compiz -- replace &
[08:04] <Naisenu> jetscreamer: Yes.  nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common are installed
[08:04] <nickrud> dxm_: ah, ask in #ubuntu-effects , #compiz-fusion they know that stuff well if they're there
[08:04] <dxm_> thanks
[08:05] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I setup an adhoc wireless network between 2 laptops running Ubuntu ?
[08:05] <gogeta> parken section screen
[08:05] <Ants> YOU'RE just an ant; i am many.
[08:05] <jetscreamer> try apt-get install --reinstall maybe, or rebuild the module.. not sure
[08:06] <gogeta> it should show what modes its set to display
[08:06] <parkin_m> (ahhhh)
[08:06] <AnAnt> Ants: good, so maybe you can answer my question then :)
[08:06] <nickrud> pin!
[08:06] <parkin_m> sry i keep getting dc
[08:06] <parkin_m> how to look at display 0?
[08:06] <fatcatmatt> kidbuntu: try drag and dropping your downloaded screen
[08:06] <gogeta> thats display 0
[08:07] <tarnto1> anyone here know why sound would be lost whilst logging in...same thing would happen even after a reboot...?
[08:07] <kidbuntu> fatcatmatt: i tried that.  it doesnt work
[08:07] <Ants> AnAnt: sorry, i know very little about wireless.
[08:07] <Naisenu> hrm it would help if Synaptic actually connected to anything
[08:07] <nickrud> DISPLAY=":0" ?
[08:07] <AnAnt> Ants: np
[08:07] <fatcatmatt> no install button?  lol kidbuntu
[08:07] <gogeta> 0 is always the firs lol
[08:07] <vontux> can the "Archive Manager" be used to create a password-protected zip file?
[08:08] <johnww> tarnto1: wat do u mean lost
[08:08] <kidbuntu> fatcatmatt:  there is. installing the chrome.so just doesnt work. it just exits on its own after trying to install one of the splash screens i download
[08:08] <tarnto1> johnww: sound is gone
[08:08] <kidbuntu> -ed
[08:08] <Naisenu> ok i am going to reboot ... this is very odd ...
[08:08] <johnww> then why did u say after login, it works before login?
[08:08] <gogeta> kinda like this
[08:08] <nemik> does negative work for anyone with the latest updates on gutsy?
[08:08] <gogeta> SubSection "Display"
[08:08] <gogeta> 		Depth		1
[08:08] <gogeta> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[08:08] <gogeta> 	EndSubSection
[08:08] <nemik> did they new libpam update in gutsy break anything for anyone?
[08:08] <fatcatmatt> hmm, kidbuntu.  mine does fine, in fact, i disabled a splash screen to show when mine boots
[08:09] <tico1> hello everybody
[08:09] <gogeta> probly a setting for eatch coler range
[08:09] <davidthedrake> Hello tico1
[08:09] <nickrud> vontux: look at the modifying an archive in the archive manager help
[08:09] <gogeta> and eatch display
[08:09] <vontux> nickrud: ok
[08:09] <gogeta> being you have tv out thers probly 2
[08:09] <Klonoa> Hey, I was wondering, how would I add Compiz to the list of start up processes?
[08:09] <tico1> davidthedrake: how are you doing?
[08:10] <davidthedrake> tico1, Well and you?
[08:10] <johnww> tarnto1: im sorry you said whilst, not after. what does whilst mean
[08:10] <tarnto1> johnww: it was lost when i was going to play something after a second..then i tried a reboot which usually brings the sound back but now it seems that trick doesnt work anymore
[08:10] <tico1> davidthedrake: very well thanks!!
[08:10] <johnww> what breaks the sound
[08:11] <tico1> Do some one knows how to sync outlook emails in win with ubuntu?
[08:11] <AnAnt> how do I setup an adhoc wireless network between 2 laptops running Ubuntu ?
[08:11] <tarnto1> johnww: i mean system sound played but not till the end ...something has stopped it and i am not sure how to get it back?
[08:11] <parkinMmm> i think i have lik 100 usernames logged in now...
[08:11] <nickrud> Klonoa: system->preferences->sessions
[08:12] <jmak642> i'm goin to sleep
[08:12] <gogeta> lol
[08:12] <jmak642> bye everone
[08:12] <Klonoa> Thanks!
[08:12] <kidbuntu> !uspsplash
[08:12] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uspsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <parkinMmm> gogeta all the higher resolutions have now disappeared from the select
[08:12] <faileas> tico1: use imap? ;) alternately i set them to delete only mails that are deleted on the client. works alright, even if its a small hack
[08:12] <parkinMmm> (drop down)
[08:12] <parkinMmm> any idea why this is caused?
[08:12] <you_bgt> ad
[08:12] <Klonoa> Hey
[08:13] <Naisenu> okay ... i think my system has issues ... i can't download packages from Synaptic
[08:13] <jetscreamer> fix it
[08:13] <jetscreamer> !sources
[08:13] <Ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:13] <parkinMmm> wb gogeta :p
[08:13] <johnww> tarnto1 are you able to play mp3s
[08:13] <Klonoa> For anybody running Compiz Fusion, has anyone else run into issues with it recognizing all the different work spaces?
[08:13] <tico1> faileas, well i have imap and pop the problem is when i check my email with outlook , outlook delete the copy of the server
[08:13] <parkinMmm> gogeta all the higher resolutions have now disappeared from the drop down menu (any idea why?)
[08:13] <gogeta> switch to a irc we can pm in
[08:13] <tarnto1> johnww: nothing not a sound
[08:13] <Naisenu> jetscreamer: No. I can find them. They just won't download.
[08:13] <faileas> tico1: you can set it not to
[08:13] <gogeta> maybe you made a error
[08:14] <nickrud> Naisenu: are you using the canadian repos, there's been a couple people here saying they're down
[08:14] <johnww> tarnto1 but you hear stuff for like 3 seconds when u logging in?
[08:14] <tico1> faileas, but i need use the same data base like sync... and check in ubuntu but have the same at the same time in ubuntu
[08:14] <Naisenu> ah yes they are the canadian ones
[08:14] <tarnto1> johnww: yes...but not the whole piece
[08:14] <faileas> hmm
[08:14] <vontux> my "password" option is not usable under the edit option of the "Archive Manager" is that a bug?
[08:14] <jetscreamer> use us?
[08:14] <jetscreamer> u.s.
[08:14] <nickrud> Naisenu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[08:15] <faileas> t too sure the
[08:15] <jetscreamer> make backup
[08:15] <tico1> faileas, sorry win xp and ubuntu
[08:15] <nickrud> vontux: don't know ;)
[08:15] <parkinMmm> can we move to another channel or something gogeta??
[08:15] <riotkittie> i think i'm finally within reach of my secured network. but it's 2am, and this is likely a sleep deprived delusion on my part
[08:15] <gogeta> i enabled my pm abiltys
[08:15] <vontux> nickrud: hmm...thx
[08:15] <faileas> tico1: not too sure how to still
[08:15] <gogeta> ill get your messnages now
[08:15] <parkinMmm> ok
[08:15] <nickrud> vontux: read those docs, you might have to create an archive first
[08:15] <johnww> tarnto1: your screwed it looks like linux has really shitted on you
[08:16] <parkinMmm> *sent you msg
[08:16] <astro76> vontux, not all archive types support passwords, if you make a .zip it will be enabled (of course zip password protection is not really secure)
[08:16] <gogeta> weard
[08:16] <gogeta> what you usin
[08:16] <johnww> tarnto1: delete linux, give up, and buy windows vista
[08:16] <nickrud> vontux: it is in the modify section, after all
[08:16] <tico1> faileas, thanks !
[08:16] <astro76> gogeta, you have to register your nick to PM on Freenode
[08:16] <astro76> !register
[08:16] <Ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:16] <vontux> astro76: so it won't allow me to create a password for say .tar.gz?
[08:16] <parkinMmm> i can read your pms
[08:16] <gogeta> my nick is registerd
[08:16] <faileas> tico1: hmm?
[08:16] <astro76> vontux, no
[08:16] <overclucker> johnww, what are you saying!?!
[08:16] <gogeta> been for years
[08:16] <LT1Caprice57L> hey there fellas, anyone know where ubuntu's default wallpapers would be stored?  and if that would also apply to linux mint
[08:17] <johnww> he has a nasty sound problem
[08:17] <dustin_> Broken package error...cant fix it...anyone help?
[08:17] <astro76> gogeta, you have to register to send
[08:17] <Shockman> back
[08:17] <vontux> nickrud: the instructions in the help say to open an archive and select "password" under edit, but "password" is not selectable
[08:17] <johnww> his sound plays for like 2 seconds then quits
[08:17] <riotkittie> if you want to sell vista, get a job at staples.
[08:17] <kidbuntu> can someone help me configure the splash screen in feisty
[08:17] <gogeta> parkin you probly need to register
[08:17] <tarnto1> johnww: i have had this problem quite often...done a few reinstalling ...still it's kept coming back!!!
[08:17] <nickrud> vontux: have you created an archive yet?
[08:17] <vontux> nickrud: I read the docs buddy :)
[08:17] <gogeta> astro i am registerd
[08:17] <nickrud> lol
[08:17] <vontux> nickrud: yep
[08:17] <parkinMmm> register where? ^^
[08:17] <astro76> gogeta, yeah but you're trying to talk to people
[08:17] <Shockman> nickrud: im in the livecd
[08:17] <tico1> faileas, ?
[08:17] <astro76> gogeta, they need to register
[08:17] <LT1Caprice57L> I have Linux Mint running on my sister's laptop, and there's a default wallpaper I particularly like that is not branded, but I can't find them for the life of me
[08:17] <gogeta> yea
[08:17] <nickrud> vontux: then I'm not sure, I just looked around
[08:17] <faileas> tico1: did something i say work? ;p
[08:17] <parkinMmm> i will register, tell me where :)
[08:17] <johnww> tarnto1 maybe it a bad sound driver?
[08:18] <LT1Caprice57L> and I figured since LM is just Ubuntu with preinstalled software maybe someone could help...
[08:18] <Shockman> what do i do now
[08:18] <dustin_> can anyone help with this "broken package" issue?
[08:18] <vontux> nickrud: ok well thx anyway
[08:18] <nickrud> Shockman: ok, is your root partition mounted read/write?
[08:18] <Shockman> nope
[08:18] <johnww> whats the name of your sound card do a $lspci
[08:18] <LuYu> does anybody here use wlan in ubuntu?
[08:18] <LT1Caprice57L> LuYu: affirmative
[08:18] <Shockman> sda3
[08:18] <Dark_Rain> LuYu,
[08:18] <davidthedrake> LuYu, Yup
[08:18] <LT1Caprice57L> on both this and the LM laptop
[08:18] <tarnto1> johnww: via8237
[08:18] <Dark_Rain> what is the problem with wlan
[08:18] <tico1> faileas: no really ... but thanks for your time ;)
[08:18] <Dark_Rain> ?
[08:19] <faileas> LuYu: with an older intel wifi card. yeah
[08:19] <LT1Caprice57L> depends on youur hardware
[08:19] <nickrud> Shockman: ok, sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[08:19] <LuYu> it seems like the config for wireless is nearly all command line
[08:19] <LuYu> and i right?
[08:19] <hansteam> Is there a way to have set up a desktop for one workspace without affecting the others?
[08:19] <LT1Caprice57L> you on a laptop or desktop
[08:19] <faileas> nope
[08:19] <johnww> tarnto1: one moment sir
[08:19] <Shockman> nickrud: ok
[08:19] <gogeta> this is nicer
[08:19] <faileas> i set mine up using network manager
[08:19] <LT1Caprice57L> Mine worked out of the box on both computers...
[08:19] <LuYu> you mean gnomes network manager?
[08:19] <Shockman> nickrud: next
[08:19] <tarnto1> johnww: cheers
[08:19] <faileas> WEP or unencrypted. i think gutsy supports WPA
[08:20] <faileas> yup
[08:20] <LuYu> well, ive got usb nics, and neither of them work at all
[08:20] <davidthedrake> !question | LuYu
[08:20] <Ubotu> LuYu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:20] <nickrud> Shockman: ok, cd /mnt/usr/bin
[08:20] <tico1> LuYu i used network manager in gnome ubuntu dapper, and it work perferct
[08:20] <LuYu> although the kernel modules are generally loaded correctly
[08:20] <gogeta> outch
[08:20] <johnww> tarnto1: please type "vi /etc/asound.conf"
[08:20] <Shockman> my sda3 is not showing
[08:21] <tico1> LuYu, i have a link with the how to, give a sec
[08:21] <vontux> nickrud: haha, I didn't notice the file extension, I thought I had .zip, but it was .tar.gz which doesn't currently support passwords....
[08:21] <LuYu> kewl
[08:21] <LuYu> thanks
[08:21] <astro76> vontux, never will ;)
[08:21] <nickrud> Shockman: we mounted it on /mnt so   cd /mnt/usr/bin
[08:21] <astro76> vontux, if you really need security, you should encrypt with gpg
[08:21] <Shockman> nickrud: my ubuntu disk aint here
[08:21] <gogeta> lol
[08:21] <parkin123134141> *screams*
[08:21] <LT1Caprice57L> no ideas where the default wallpapers are stored, anyone?
[08:21] <davidthedrake> .........
[08:22] <gogeta> parken when you register a nic you gotta use hat one
[08:22] <parkin123134141> gogeta do u have msn or something
[08:22] <gogeta> that
[08:22] <gogeta> LOL
[08:22] <tarnto1> johnww: done....
[08:22] <parkin123134141> :
[08:22] <parkin123134141> :p
[08:22] <astro76> parkin123134141, after you register you have to identify
[08:22] <nickrud> Shockman: did you get any error when you ran that mount command
[08:22] <vontux> astro76: nah, not real security, just some a minor block for people trying to access my files who I need to let use my computer :)
[08:22] <Shockman> nickrud: no error
[08:22] <johnww> tarnto1: please go to this website "http://blog.hulboj.org/pl/2006/02/via8237-sound-problem-linux.html"
[08:22] <parkin123134141> gogeta do u have a gaim account?
[08:22] <gogeta> heh
[08:22] <Naisenu> Okay. I have reinstalled nvidia-glx & nvidia-kernel-common and it's still having issues (http://attachr.com/9562)
[08:22] <parkin123134141> before i shoot myself
[08:22] <tico1> LuYu: use apt-get network-manager-gnome
[08:22] <gogeta> registering on irc
[08:22] <gogeta> easy
[08:22] <astro76> vontux, you should create a user for guests, and make your files unreadable by others
[08:23] <nickrud> Shockman: does ls /mnt   show  root  boot   usr   var  etc?
[08:23] <davidthedrake> vontux, chown the files to a user only you have access to ;)
[08:23] <tico1> LuYu: after install it disable all the conections except lo and then restart
[08:23] <Shockman> nickrud: wait
[08:23] <LuYu> ive got network manager
[08:23] <LuYu> and its running
[08:23] <Shockman> nickrud: i tried to mount again and mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /mnt
[08:24] <tico1> LuYu: what  is the problem?
[08:24] <nickrud> Shockman: that's where it should be.    cd /mnt/usr/bin
[08:24] <LuYu> so, youre saying if i restart networkmanager, it will detect the nics
[08:24] <Shockman> nickrud: but i only in the console window
[08:24] <LuYu> well, the kernel modules arent assigning virtual addresses to the nics
[08:24] <nickrud> Shockman: thats fine, just type the command in the console
[08:24] <tarnto1> johnww: vi /etc/asound.conf...i should ignore this command now?
[08:24] <LuYu> one is a prism_2
[08:24] <LuYu> and the other is a zd1211b
[08:24] <gogeta> LOL
[08:25] <johnww> NO NO NO....... oopen up a new terminal, type "firefox&" then enter that URL, leaving the existing terminal with the vi open
[08:25] <tico1> LuYu: after install u need to disable all the connections .. after that restart you OS
[08:25] <parkinmWTFWT> this is crapping the crap out of my internet connection
[08:25] <LuYu> the kernel comes with modules for both, but neither seems to be detected or set up
[08:25] <Shockman> nickrud: /mnt/usr/bin
[08:25] <johnww> dont do anything with the vi terminal just open a new tiermnal
[08:25] <parkinmWTFWT> only 40000 parkinms to time out
[08:25] <Shockman> nickrud: ok
[08:25] <vontux> astro76: yeah I guess I just got fixated on this "problem" but sometimes I let a person next to me use my pc real quick and I don't want them to access a few files, but yeah chown would work best :)
[08:25] <nickrud> Shockman:   ls -l sudo , do you see it
[08:25] <gogeta> outch
[08:25] <LuYu> thats my other question about that
[08:25] <riotkittie> sudo shutdown -h now
[08:25] <riotkittie> oops
[08:25] <gogeta> well i pmind my aim
[08:25] <parkinmWTFWT> how to register?
[08:25] <parkinmWTFWT> do again
[08:25] <parkinmWTFWT> :)
[08:26] <parkinmWTFWT> quick before i crash out again :p
[08:26] <Shockman> nickrud: -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 91508 2006-10-09 11:37 sudo
[08:26] <davidthedrake> 9/11 was an inside job btw... good night and bless you everyone.
[08:26] <LuYu> network manager generally tries to make intelligent decisions about these things
[08:26] <gogeta> you /nickserv register password email
[08:26] <LuYu> but i dont want to connect to the net using the nics
[08:26] <nickrud> Shockman: ok,   sudo -i
[08:26] <vontux> thx to all for the assitance w/ my "problem
[08:26] <tico1> LuYu: what version do u have?
[08:26] <vontux> I feel a little silly
[08:26] <LuYu> i want connect wireless pdas using an extra link
[08:26] <LuYu> 7.04
[08:26] <gogeta> then nickserv identify password
[08:26] <gogeta> then none can use that nic
[08:26] <gogeta> your for life
[08:26] <Shockman> nickrud: root@ubuntu:~#
[08:27] <LuYu> so, if i use networkmanager to do that, will i have a config for wired and a config for wireless that cannot be used when the other is on?
[08:27] <nickrud> Shockman: chmod u+s sudo    then   ls -l sudo    and paste it here
[08:27] <tico1> LuYu: sorry i am not sure about how to do it with that version because 7.04 comes with network manager by default
[08:27] <LuYu> right
[08:27] <gogeta> doesent matter if you timeout then
[08:27] <LuYu> and the config doesnt even let me add arbitrary connections
[08:28] <gogeta> when you identify it gives that nic back
[08:28] <LuYu> am i just SOL for non-automagic config with networkmanager?
[08:28] <johnww> yes
[08:28] <nickrud> well, until the ops take it away
[08:28] <macogw> LuYu: NM is just for uber-simple stuff
[08:28] <Shockman> nickrud:   chmod u+s sudo = chmod: cannot access `sudo': No such file or directory
[08:28] <yharrow> hey guys
[08:28] <macogw> LuYu: i think Firestarter lets you set up a network bridge, but i dont know how
[08:29] <tico1> LuYu: yes u must use wired or wireless i guess
[08:29] <LuYu> yeah, so, for complex connections or configurations, it cant be relied upon, right?
[08:29] <macogw> Shockman: the sudo goes first
[08:29] <johnww> tarnto1: are you still with us
[08:29] <LuYu> hmmmm
[08:29] <nickrud> Shockman: doh me.  cd /mnt/usr/bin   again, we got bumped to root's home directory
[08:29] <gogeta> lol did we lose parken again
[08:29] <Shockman> nickrud: ok
[08:29] <tarnto1> johnww: yes just reading the article
[08:29] <tico1> LuYu try using  wifi-radar
[08:30] <Shockman> nickrud: im in
[08:30] <LuYu> i suppose i should email the GUI developers
[08:30] <gogeta> LOL
[08:30] <nickrud> Shockman: then do the   chmod    & ls -l   & paste
[08:30] <johnww> tarnto1: please read the article
[08:30] <tico1> Luyu just to check if your wireless is working well
[08:30] <tico1> LuYu i mean the driver
[08:30] <LuYu> ive already worked with it in the console
[08:30] <gogeta> hey shock you still trying to get that disk to mount lol
[08:30] <Shockman> nickrud: wow
[08:31] <Shockman> nickrud: you want to see this?
[08:31] <LuYu> neither one is given a virtual address:  ethX or wlanX
[08:31] <nickrud> Shockman: yup, absolutely
[08:31] <tarnto1> johnww: i've left the /etc/asound.conf termial open n opened another tab
[08:31] <tico1> Luyu and?? it work? did u saw a wireless connection?
[08:31] <LuYu> in fact, neither of the kernel modules even does anything when the cards are inserted
[08:31] <LuYu> never
[08:31] <LuYu> nothing
[08:31] <Shockman> !pastebin
[08:31] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <Shockman> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37171/
[08:32] <tico1> LUyU: are u sure u are using the proper driver for u wireless card?
[08:32] <nickrud> Shockman: I just took another look at your sudo permissions, I only glanced to see that there was no s at the beginning. but you have everyone able to write to it, bad!
[08:32] <faileas> LuYu: what car?
[08:32] <faileas> card
[08:33] <nickrud> Shockman: you have seriously messed up permissions, I wouldn't even begin to know what to do to fix them all
[08:34] <johnww> tarnto1: please do a "/partall" (in the channel is O.K.) and copy and paste what the result is
[08:34] <Shockman> nickrud: so,do i jump to another ship or what?
[08:34] <tico1> how to check outllok express using ubuntu?
[08:34] <gogeta> wine
[08:34] <nickrud> Shockman: how old is this install?
[08:35] <Shockman> nickrud: 2 days
[08:35] <tico1> but i want to see the e-mails that i have in windows
[08:35] <Dark_Rain> tico1, use evolution
[08:35] <c1|freaky> how can i add locales to my installation via commandline (ubuntu server)?
[08:35] <thedash> is the -r option for rsync sort of repetitive ?
[08:35] <gogeta> !wine
[08:35] <Ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:35] <nickrud> Shockman: reinstall, it'll definitely take less time, and you're not gonna lose much.
[08:36] <tico1> Dark_Rain: but how can i sync outlook express with evolution...
[08:36] <tarnto1> johnww: typed '/partall' in the terminal but says command not found?
[08:36] <gogeta> yea outlok does suck
[08:36] <Shockman> ok,but im going to save somethings in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:36] <gogeta> tico add your pop 3 to evolution
[08:36] <johnww> tarnto1: hmm.. see if "/part" gives any output about soundcard
[08:36] <josiah_> I am having a hell of a time creating a menu item for a wine app... here is what im doing and where im having issues: http://pastebin.ca/693345
[08:36] <Dark_Rain> ticol you could use thunderbird
[08:36] <gogeta> it will grab all emails on that server
[08:36] <josiah_> any help would be great
[08:36] <Dark_Rain> and then import from windows partition... is just an ideea
[08:37] <gogeta> wine doesent run wow well
[08:37] <gogeta> cedega better bet
[08:37] <nickrud> Shockman: yeah, drag & drop from there to the cd burner , places -> cd creator
[08:37] <thedash> is the -r option for rsync sort of repetitive ?
[08:37] <josiah_> gogeta: I disagree... its running it wonderfully... im not having issues with wine
[08:37] <johnww> tarnto1: trying to see if your IRC client is detecting sound interface properly, so you have to type the command into IRC channel
[08:37] <tico1> the problem is that when i check my emails in outlook- outlook delete the copy of the server
[08:37] <Dark_Rain> josiah, i have :(
[08:37] <tico1> so i have no copy in the server
[08:37] <Shockman> nickrud
[08:38] <Shockman> thanks man
[08:38] <gogeta> thats kinda a long way to make a menu icon relly
[08:38] <Shockman> dont know how that happened
[08:38] <josiah> Dark_Rain: you have issues with wow and wine?
[08:38] <nickrud> Shockman: did you ever run nautilus with gksudo ?
[08:38] <tarnto1> johnww: say no known command
[08:38] <Shockman> nickrud: is that bad?
[08:38] <Dark_Rain> josiah, i have issue with wine in general
[08:38] <Dark_Rain> :)
[08:38] <Parkin_1313> omg....
[08:38] <tico1> do you have any idea?
[08:38] <Parkin_1313> i have never seen anything more lol
[08:38] <nickrud> Shockman: dangerous as it gets
[08:39] <gogeta> why not make it like sudo wine /wow/wow.exe
[08:39] <gogeta> dont
[08:39] <josiah> Dark_Rain: oh... not good lol... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[08:39] <gogeta> done
[08:39] <Parkin_1313> gogeta could u pm me aim?
[08:39] <gogeta> if i knew it
[08:39] <Naisenu> I appear to have issues with my nvidia card (6600GT AGP). I have reinstalled nvidia-glx & nvidia-kernel-common and it's still having issues (http://attachr.com/9562)
[08:39] <Dark_Rain> josiah, ex. i run DC++ or StrongDC uner wine... and after a while ...crash
[08:39] <gogeta> i sent mine
[08:39] <josiah> Dark_Rain:  http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux
[08:39] <johnww> tarnto1: please copy the article's suggestion for /etc/asound.conf into the asound.conf file you have opened with vi
[08:39] <nickrud> tico1: there's a setting somewhere in the account settings that says leave messages on the server
[08:40] <Shockman> nickrud: when i copy the backups from cd to new ubuntu install,i will have to do gksudo nautilus again
[08:40] <tico1> do u know if the new google program is better than gaim?
[08:40] <Parkin_131234234> ...
[08:40] <Parkin_131234234> fk u chanserv
[08:40] <Parkin_131234234> :(
[08:40] <johnww> tico1: gaim is far better
[08:40] <faileas> tico: new google programme?
[08:40] <gogeta> just pm me i should get it
[08:40] <faileas> gtalk?
[08:40] <tico1> nickrud: yes but i need mi old email..... i have a lot of email from my company
[08:40] <gogeta> over aim
[08:40] <tarnto1> johnww: i have just sudo nano /etc/asound.conf then copy n paste the file
[08:40] <Parkin_131234234> what is ur aim???
[08:41] <tico1> thanks johww
[08:41] <johnww> tarnto1: yes sir
[08:41] <faileas> quite bad
[08:41] <faileas> ;p
[08:41] <nickrud> Shockman: no. This is where you should be using the console. sudo is a 4 letter word between you and disaster. A quick guide to using the console is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:42] <tico1> yes
[08:42] <tico1> ok thks
[08:42] <gogeta> i seems if i pm that poor guy his irc dies
[08:42] <gogeta> cute
[08:42] <tico1> i need to fix the problem with my emails..
[08:42] <josiah> Dark_Rain: hmmm. Have you tried CrossOver?
[08:42] <nickrud> tico1: the mail will be downloaded to outlook just fine, but left on the server for another client to download
[08:42] <Dark_Rain> is not free
[08:42] <gogeta> tico add your pop config to evlution
[08:43] <UberPsyX> hey guys, is there a way to mount a USB MP4 Player through wine, its just it tries to find windows, fails and thinks its plugged into the wall socket
[08:43] <gogeta> it will grab those emails
[08:43] <Dark_Rain> but i can programm verry well in gambas
[08:43] <Dark_Rain> is excelent
[08:43] <UberPsyX> and then i cant send files to it
[08:43] <tico1> nickrud: another like ???:P
[08:44] <tico1> the problems are my old email in outlook
[08:44] <nickrud> tico1: oh, evolution, or another copy of outlook. I have a boss who insists on having his mail on two machines, randomly saves it and deletes it on each machine, and I have to keep it sync'd
[08:44] <nickrud> He WILL NOT let me set him up imap
[08:45] <nickrud> good guy, otherwise
[08:45] <tico1> that is exactly what i need
[08:45] <tico1> how do you do it?
[08:45] <Dark_Rain> nickrud, use IMAP
[08:45] <nickrud> lol
[08:45] <Dark_Rain> ups... sorry my mistake
[08:45] <nickrud> Dark_Rain: I use it myself,
[08:45] <Dark_Rain> me 2
[08:45] <Dark_Rain> :))
[08:45] <gogeta> use uimap anyways
[08:45] <gogeta> just dont tell him
[08:45] <Dark_Rain> postfix and imap
[08:45] <nickrud> I'm planning on it ;)
[08:45] <gogeta> :)
[08:46] <Dark_Rain> :)) you are such a guy NickPresta
[08:46] <Dark_Rain> :)) you are such a guy nickrud
[08:46] <johnww> HAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHAHHAHAAHHAHA
[08:46] <nickrud> tico1: I have one client never delete mail from the server (set up in the account settings) and the other deletes it after 10 days.
[08:46] <johnww> i made tarnto1 leave because i told him to type in "/partall" to get sound diagnostic information HAHAAAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
[08:47] <johnww> AAAAAAAHAHHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHAAAAAAAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAAA
[08:47] <gogeta> LOL
[08:47] <Dark_Rain> =))
[08:47] <Dark_Rain> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[08:47] <nickrud> I have a little script that archives it all in a folder, and feed it back in when he screws it up
[08:47] <gogeta> eveil
[08:47] <gogeta> bad
[08:47] <Dark_Rain> jesus christ
[08:47] <gogeta> prakens internet hates him
[08:47] <the^user> klibibo crasht and cause the signal 11 sigsegv, can somebody help me please !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:47] <gogeta> lol
[08:47] <tico1> nickrud: ahhhhh .... i will check it out thanks so much
[08:48] <Dark_Rain> johnww, you are evil man >:)
[08:48] <Dark_Rain> i like you
[08:48] <gogeta> the user your pcs going to die
[08:48] <gogeta> sorry
[08:48] <rausb0> johnww: yeah, put "export TMOUT=8" in your .bashrc :)
[08:48] <CoasterMaster> does canonical get suspicious if you order a lot of CDs?  I can't order 3 at a time any more (I give them out to a lot of people)
[08:49] <LuYu> well, wifi-radar looks really cool
[08:49] <johnww> rausb0: ok
[08:49] <gogeta> we all knoe the dredid siget 11
[08:49] <johnww> haha
[08:49] <LuYu> but i doubt if its going to solve my problem
[08:49] <nickrud> heh. used to be you could order a hundred, and they came no questions asked. I didn't even remember ordering the 10 I got, 'what's this mail from switzerland?'
[08:49] <Stolpskott> hi, anyone know what's wrong when trying to connect to a imap server with thunderbird or evolution in Linux, it doesn't work. Now installed FreeBSD and it works??? Tried with Ubuntu and SUSE, no firewalls configured. Although the imap server is protected by a OpenBSD firewall. Tcpdump hsows traffic in both directions.
[08:50] <LuYu> it doesnt allow one to specify and/or configure undetected hardware
[08:50] <tarntow> johnww: thanx for the help
[08:50] <tico1> LuYu: hahaha yes It's awesome the only problems is when u try to connect to wpa psi it dosen;t work
[08:50] <Dark_Rain> :))
[08:50] <johnww> tarntow: no problem, is it working now?
[08:51] <LuYu> anyway, it looks like this problem is not going to be solved soon
[08:51] <gogeta> i bet parken has found his windows cd >:o
[08:51] <LuYu> im going to go work on something else
[08:51] <LuYu> thanks for the ideas
[08:51] <LuYu> ttyl
[08:51] <Dark_Rain> =)) @ gogeta
[08:51] <nickrud> Stolpskott: no explanation of why, I use both with my imap account
[08:51] <tico1> LuYu: for that security u must setup network manager
[08:52] <WaltzingAlong> CoasterMaster: what i am finding is that supporting documentation is more important that the actual software
[08:53] <Stolpskott> nickrud: well ok, I hoped someone had a clue, it works if I telnet to the server on port 143..
[08:53] <CoasterMaster> WaltzingAlong, ?
[08:54] <jesson> wat is the counterpart of exe in ubuntu ??
[08:54] <WaltzingAlong> CoasterMaster: you asked about the shipit cds. the software is easy to come by, download, burn, hand it out, install it yourself. but in places where i have introduced ubuntu/kubuntu users were looking for a nice manual
[08:54] <rausb0> jesson: executable files are not determined by a specific extension in linux
[08:55] <CoasterMaster> WaltzingAlong, oh yeah.....they bring their computers over and I install (and give them a disc incase they need it)
[08:55] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: the files need not have an extension like with ms windows; so what are the main executibles?
[08:55] <jesson> nothing seems to work on 2x click in my ubuntu
[08:55] <jesson> =(
[08:55] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: such as?
[08:55] <jesson> ok how do i make file executable?
[08:55] <jesson> executable in desktop
[08:55] <jesson> not on terminal
[08:56] <tarntow> johnww: seems sound now (pardon the punt)
[08:56] <nickrud> speaking of telnet, anyone been to telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl recently?
[08:56] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: right mouse click on it / properties / permissions / is executable
[08:56] <johnww> tarntow: is there anything else we can help you with today?
[08:56] <Stolpskott> jesson: also make sure the mountpoint isn't set as noexec i fstab
[08:56] <faileas> lol blinkenlighen
[08:57] <jesson> so theres not standard file extension on linux? lke on windows it has to be exe to run
[08:57] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: right ms windows bases the type of a file by its name
[08:57] <nickrud> jesson: no, linux looks at what the file actually is
[08:58] <tarntow> johnww: hopefully it's sorted once and for all..this has been an on going problem for ages..i know my system hve GTK errors but that would be for another time...cheers
[08:58] <nickrud> jesson: for example, you can have a jpeg with .gif on the end, linux knows the truth
[08:58] <jesson> iC
[08:58] <jesson> ok heres my scenarion
[08:59] <jesson> i compiled a cpp file into .exe but exe doesnt work on linux. how do i run or make the cpp executable ?
[08:59] <Flannel> jesson: Compile it on linux.
[08:59] <jesson> i did something like this g++ hello.cpp -o hello.exe
[08:59] <rausb0> jesson: you must compile it on linux. windows exe files cannot be run natively in linux. (you might try wine though)
[09:00] <nickrud> jesson: compiled on linux, of course?   you would type:   chmod u+x <file>  (executable only by you)  or a+x (executable by all)
[09:00] <johnww> jesson: please type "chmod u+x hello.exe"
[09:00] <tico1>  I HAVE A NOTEBOOK WITH WIN-XP AND UBUNTU  i use more ubuntu than xp the question is this do u know hot to use ubuntu and run WINXP at the same time?
[09:00] <tico1> how*
[09:00] <rausb0> johnww: gcc normally sets the executable bit of the output file
[09:00] <nickrud> tico1: vmware-server , vmware workstation, virtualbox , etc
[09:01] <rausb0> johnww: so no need to chmod hello.exe
[09:01] <fatcatmatt> i figured out why nothing works on my boss' laptop that i was trying to get ubuntu setup on...there are too many bugs for everything he's got!  been in and outta so many forums tonight it's not funny.
[09:01] <johnww> jesson: please type "./hello.exe"
[09:01] <nickrud> slowww
[09:01] <tico1> nickrud: but i saw that if i install virtualbox i will have problems to run my win xp partition
[09:01] <nickrud> me, that is.
[09:01] <tico1> nickrud: is it true?
[09:01] <nickrud> tico1: I can only say from experience that vmware-server runs vista fine
[09:02] <faileas> tico1: no need for caps please
[09:02] <jesson> ./hell.exe is that wine?
[09:02] <johnww> no sir,
[09:02] <rausb0> jesson: if this hello.cpp program only makes text output, you have to run the compiled program in a console
[09:02] <jesson> so thats how i run exe on linux?
[09:02] <rausb0> jesson: no, that isn't wine
[09:02] <johnww> linux is not smart enough to check your current directory for your file execute command, so you have to put "./" in front of it
[09:02] <faileas> nickrud: i thinks he wants to run a exsisting partition in vmware
[09:02] <tico1> faileas: sorry i made a mistake
[09:02] <nickrud> faileas: supposedly it's doable, but I haven't tried
[09:02] <faileas> you can mount raw partitions in vmware
[09:02] <faileas> its a bad idea though
[09:02] <tico1> nickrud: thanks i going to try it!!!
[09:03] <WaltzingAlong> faileas: raw ide partitions
[09:03] <jesson> it worked
[09:03] <faileas> yup
[09:03] <rausb0> jesson: if you compile the c++ source yourself on linux, the result is not a windows .exe file
[09:03] <nickrud> tico1: see faileas just above, he's knows better I think
[09:03] <jesson> wat shud the result be?
[09:03] <rausb0> jesson: better name the output file of g++ just "hello", not "hello.exe"
[09:03] <Dark_Rain> nickrud, what should i use virtualbox or vmware?
[09:03] <baudthief> Hey guys, is there any way to find out what's eating up all my RAM? Nothing significant is showing in Ksysguard - I'm using ~920MB of ram on nothing at the moment, its usually no more than 400MB after boot
[09:03] <faileas> but its risky, if you don't shutdown the VM correctly, might corrupt the file system
[09:03] <jesson> let me try
[09:03] <rausb0> jesson: g++ hello.cpp -o hello
[09:03] <Sajes> Okay - I got connected on my winmodem on Linux with Linuxant drivers (free version.. 14.4kbps..) BUT, it was like.. really slow and my modem gave me annoying clicking sounds.. so I'm just going to wait and buy a hardware modem. :p
[09:03] <baudthief> (ubuntu feisty + beryl)
[09:03] <Dark_Rain> baudthief, top
[09:03] <nickrud> Dark_Rain: I've only used vmware-server.
[09:03] <rausb0> jesson: then run it by typing ./hello
[09:03] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: top?
[09:04] <tico1> faileas: that is tru... fo u know how can i do it?
[09:04] <Dark_Rain> i will try virtualbox
[09:04] <nickrud> Dark_Rain: but virtualbox is Free, but the vista license is not mine, so I went the safe route
[09:04] <jesson> ic it worked , but im confused wat the file extension of the new hello ?
[09:04] <WaltzingAlong> nickrud: as far as i understood only vista ultimate is allowed to be installed in a virtualized environment
[09:04] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: there is no extension
[09:04] <nickrud> or business
[09:04] <faileas> tico1: with vmware server, just install and follow the wizard ;)
[09:05] <baudthief> Dark_Rain, WaltzingAlong: Not showing there either!
[09:05] <faileas> installing is sligltly non trivial tho
[09:05] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: there is a property of the file set which indicates that this particular file is executable
[09:05] <Dark_Rain> i don't wanna use vista i will use win98 for testing and other linux flavor
[09:05] <rausb0> jesson: just don't give an extension. executables in linux normally don't have a extension
[09:05] <jesson> ok but i cant 2x click the hello the new output can i only run it on console?
[09:05] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: ksysguard
[09:05] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: ah sorry that was kde/kubuntu
[09:05] <faileas> tico1: if you have space to spare, you can convert a live system and make a copy of it for vmware with vmware converter
[09:05] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: did you build a gui with your hello application?
[09:05] <faileas> thats MUCH safer
[09:05] <nickrud> WaltzingAlong: the license verified, so I guess microsoft was happy
[09:05] <baudthief> Ksysguard is the same, top two processes are beryl and xorg - both using ~100MB
[09:06] <jesson> no lol just text
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> nickrud: :D
[09:06] <rausb0> jesson: double clicking doesn't work because then the output of "hello" is not sent to a terminal
[09:06] <baudthief> I have to reboot twice a day :(
[09:06] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: well you can sort by ram used then see
[09:06] <zbo> question: if I $sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove     is that the correct way to stop a service from starting?  the update-rc.d man page seems to suggest that if i upgrade gdm it will "defaults" it again
[09:06] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: did that, I even added up VMRss - still works out way less!
[09:06] <jesson> wat if i made a program with GUI do i still do the same?
[09:06] <Stanley> Is there any way to block sites like you can with the hosts files in Windows
[09:06] <rausb0> jesson: you can only start GUI apps by double clicking.
[09:06] <tico1> faileas: let me check that... u mean make a copy of win xp?
[09:07] <baudthief> 50MB of free ram now, when it starts using swap, my machine becomes unusable
[09:07] <Stanley> Well, there is an /etc/hosts - Looks like what I want.
[09:07] <faileas> yup
[09:07] <nickrud> zbo: I just unlink /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm  , it leaves enough for a reinstall to leave my hack alone
[09:07] <johnww> baudthief: please type "find / -name "Xorg" |xargs rm -f"
[09:07] <jesson> but still when compiling i dont put extension
[09:07] <faileas> its safer, IMO
[09:07] <jesson> unless i want it to run on windows platform
[09:07] <jesson> ryt
[09:07] <jesson> >?
[09:07] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: computer i worked on some weeks ago had a faulty bios such that bios kept 256mb for the video card, rest for the system at large, but the video card only really got 128. bios update took care of that
[09:07] <baudthief> john: sure np
[09:07] <tico1> let em check thanks
[09:07] <johnww> dont really type it, wat i wuld ask u to go into your xorg.conf file
[09:07] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: it is a different type of file. the extension does not make it work with windows
[09:08] <Sajes> WaltzingAlong, I hear bios updates can fry your mobo if incorrectly done. :s
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: even calling it hello.exe ms windows would not know what to do with it
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> Sajes: :D
[09:08] <nickrud> what is this, aussie hour?
[09:08] <rausb0> jesson: it wouldn't run on a windows platform even if you give a .exe extension. linux and windows executable file formats are not compatible.
[09:08] <jesson> why not? its C++
[09:08] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: thats only for onboard graphics though?
[09:08] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: it was, yeah
[09:08] <baudthief> got a 256MB AGP vidcard here heh
[09:09] <johnww> jesson: i have written EXEs by hand, and i know from personal experience that linux executables are different from EXEs
[09:09] <Sajes> 128MB eVGA NVIDIA GeForce FX5500 here :\
[09:09] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: because compiling it (say with g++) makes the resulting executable in a format that is system dependent
[09:09] <rausb0> jesson: that has nothing to do with the file extension, but with how the compiler and linker creates the executable files
[09:10] <Dark_Rain> ok... and now what i've installed virtual box
[09:10] <Dark_Rain> ...:|
[09:10] <jesson> i C becuz i compiled it using g++ but if i used to wine devc and make an ext output it wud run on xp
[09:10] <johnww> heres the $200 question, wat the difference between linux .o's and windows .o's
[09:10] <baudthief> oh man, I really *REALLY* dont want to reformat this machine.
[09:10] <jesson> they differ on wat compiler u use
[09:11] <jesson> ?
[09:11] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: nor should you need to
[09:11] <Sajes> .o's?
[09:11] <nickrud> Dark_Rain: now, apps->system tools->Innotek
[09:11] <rausb0> johnww: i guess if you run a win32 port of gcc on windows, there will be not much difference
[09:11] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: sure the compiler but the compiler produces code that works on the machine you are using
[09:11] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: If I cant locate this problem, i'll really have no choice - rebooting twice a day.... might as well install windows again lol
[09:11] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: just because something is using ram?
[09:12] <baudthief> like I said, consumption goes WAY UP over time, it keeps eating more and more until my machine becomes unusably slow
[09:12] <rausb0> jesson: different operating systems have different executable binary formats
[09:12] <baudthief> firefox wont even scroll, and things start to freeze
[09:12] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: ok so memory leak in beryl? :D
[09:13] <johnww> baudthief: please vi xorg.conf
[09:13] <baudthief> I thought it was, disabled beryl and went back to Kwin
[09:13] <nickrud> jesson: think of it this way: if windows style exe's worked on linux, who'd use windows?
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: yes different operating systems accept different types of files (not just names ie extensions) as executables
[09:13] <macogw> baudthief: check top and see what's using resources
[09:13] <johnww> today i learned fat32 wont support files >4GB
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: which programming languages do you know or which programming environments had you used on ms windows?
[09:13] <jesson> iC now
[09:13] <jesson> C++
[09:13] <nickrud> johnww: you must be young
[09:14] <jesson> using devc
[09:14] <rausb0> johnww: yeah. that's why i use ext3 for my external 160gb usb hd.
[09:14] <jesson> but devc ofcourse is not for ubntu platform
[09:14] <baudthief> macogw: the top 3 are xorg, beryl and evolution - but all three add up to 10%!
[09:14] <jesson> unless i use wine
[09:14] <macogw> jesson: you can use Eclipse for C++ development work
[09:14] <johnww> rausb0 but i want somethin that linux and windows can look at
[09:14] <johnww> can i run windows off ext3
[09:14] <jesson> any of u guys know cobol ?
[09:14] <pedahzur> You can get ext3 drivers for Windows.
[09:14] <WaltzingAlong> johnww: lol
[09:14] <josiah> GTK = Gnome?
[09:15] <WaltzingAlong> josiah: no
[09:15] <rausb0> johnww: there is a ext2 filesystem driver for windows which works quite well.
[09:15] <khermans_> is Canonical rearing itself to go public in an IPO ?
[09:15] <macogw> josiah: not exactly.  gnome uses a lot of gtk+, but i think there's some gnome libraries as well
[09:15] <WaltzingAlong> johnww: but windows cannot run off of that. windows can run off of either fat16/fat32/ntfs
[09:15] <johnww> ok, because heres the real reason, you cant defragment NTFS,
[09:15] <josiah> I am looking for themes lol. I want my gnome to look like osx
[09:16] <rausb0> johnww: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[09:16] <Sajes> Sweet, sweet 4kB/s download on Windows compared to 1600BP/S in Linux.. Stupid linux software sellers. :\
[09:16] <macogw> josiah: gnome-look.org
[09:16] <magnetron> Sajes: what are you downloading?
[09:16] <macogw> josiah: to get the separate universal menu bar, though, i think you need to use kde
[09:16] <josiah> macogw: ok in there where do i choose the theme i want? in GTK 2.x?
[09:16] <Sajes> Stuff.
[09:16] <Sajes> ;)
[09:17] <magnetron> Sajes: via torrent? http? FTP?
[09:17] <johnww> so windows itself cannot run off the ext2 filesystem?
[09:17] <Sajes> Torrent atm.
[09:17] <pedahzur> johnww: You can access the ext3 drive from windows using the ext2 driver, but your journal won't be consistent on the next boot.
[09:17] <rausb0> johnww: no, it can't
[09:17] <pedahzur> johnww: No, you can't run it directly from an ext2 partition.
[09:17] <macogw> josiah: gtk is for the colors of menus and window backgrounds.  metacity themes is for the window borders.  if you're using beryl, you can also use emerald themes for window borders
[09:18] <xeer> something really strange is happing to my ubuntu machine..
[09:18] <macogw> johnww: you'd want to have a partition for windows's system files, one for ubuntu's and then an ext3 partition that they can share to hold your data
[09:18] <xeer> i havnt installed any new programs or made any  modifications
[09:18] <xeer> it's freezing up on me
[09:18] <Sajes> Really? Did it cheat on you with your girlfriend, xeer?
[09:18] <josiah> macogw: im looking at http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6223/1/
[09:18] <rausb0> xeer: bad ram? dying hard disk?
[09:18] <josiah> macogw: think that will work for me?
[09:18] <macogw> xeer: overly new hardware?
[09:18] <magnetron> Sajes: torrent download speeds are stochastic and depend only on the seeders, not your OS. i get very different downloading speeds for at torrent during a download, even when using the same OS.
[09:19] <Sajes> =_+ I coulda sworn I was right.
[09:19] <xeer> before it was like 10 min after i turned it on, now it's getting shorter and it's at the point where it freezes at login
[09:19] <macogw> josiah: yeah sure
[09:19] <Sajes> magnetron, On Linux, I was downloading HTTP. On Windows I'm downloading with Torrent.
[09:19] <pedahzur> xeer: That sounds like bad RAM.  Or maybe your CPU or RAM needs to be reseated.
[09:19] <macogw> xeer: if you hit ctrl + alt +f1, what happens?
[09:19] <Dave_> hey is there anyway of playing movies (divx) with firefox? like movies from stage6 / tv-links[stored on stage 6] ??
[09:19] <rausb0> xeer: sounds like a hardware issue. maybe cpu fan is off or not connected to the cpu.
[09:19] <xeer> nothing happens, the keyboard is dead, as well the mouse..
[09:20] <pedahzur> xeer: Thermal issues could be causing what you're seeing.
[09:20] <WaltzingAlong> Dave_: yes
[09:20] <Sajes> The reason it was slower, was because Linuxant wants to be money grubbing people that sell Conexant modem drivers for 2x the cost of the actual modem.
[09:20] <magnetron> Sajes: download via torrent on Linux too, then ;) it's usually faster
[09:20] <WaltzingAlong> Dave_: yes there is a bug reported about that because mozilla-mplayer should handle that
[09:20] <macogw> pedahzur: not to me.  i had that issue on ubuntu dapper (every few hours, sometimes just a half hour), but not on feisty, and on debian it happens like 5 minutes after login
[09:20] <shufla> hello. I'm using linux-vserver project, it was easy to install it on 6.06 (by uniklu ext packages), teoratically usable on edgy - kernel-vserver-patch, but there is no stock kernel or anything on feisty.
[09:20] <xeer> im sure it's hardware, but i just cleaned it not too long ago
[09:20] <xeer> like the other day
[09:20] <Sajes> It's the fault of the drivers.. Limited to a 14.4kB/s connection, which on Windows I get 38.6KB/S connection.
[09:20] <macogw> xeer: did you check that the thermal grease is ok?
[09:20] <magnetron> Sajes: Linuxant? what's it?
[09:21] <shufla> I've seen that debian/etch do have stock kernel with vserver patch. will gutsy have the same? i'm asking, because searching in gutsy packages gives no restul.
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> magnetron: sell linux drivers for winmodems
[09:21] <Sajes> Conexant modem drivers for Linux.
[09:21] <Sajes> They sell their full version drivers for 2x the cost of the actually winmodem.. "A modest price of $20.00".
[09:21] <xeer> macogw, yes i put a fresh coat on
[09:21] <rausb0> Sajes: blame the hardware manufacturer for not releasing specs to open source driver developers
[09:21] <macogw> pedahzur: i have debian and feisty both installed right now on the same box, and debian is pretty much unusable
[09:21] <macogw> xeer: clean off the old one first?
[09:21] <WaltzingAlong> or buy a hardware modem
[09:21] <magnetron> Sajes: winmodem? i would look for another modem
[09:22] <xeer> lol of coursee
[09:22] <Sajes> rausb0, Blame me for not buying a hardware modem with my PC.
[09:22] <rausb0> Sajes: oh, it's a pc. thought is was a notebook.
[09:22] <Sajes> Should've known better, but at the time, $5.00 looked better than $30.00. :)
[09:22] <WaltzingAlong> :D but really 20 is not all that bad i guess
[09:22] <Sajes> Nah, notebooks gonna be next on the purchase list.
[09:22] <pedahzur> macogw: Interesting.  Whenever I've had sporadic issues like that, it's always ended up being memory or the motherboard.
[09:23] <johnww> So i guess the question becomes, how much of the WINDOWS directory can be moved to the ext2 directory (how early is the ext2 driver loaded.)
[09:23] <rausb0> Sajes: and no dsl or any other highspeed internet a your place?
[09:23] <Dave_> soo right now there is nothing I can do about it?
[09:23] <WaltzingAlong> Sajes: i would think that a properly implemented softmodem on gnu/linux would  perform better than the same softmodem on ms windows
[09:23] <macogw> pedahzur: i did a memtest a couple months ago when i was having some other problem....cant remember what now
[09:23] <Sajes> Nope, I've tried a load of ISP's.
[09:23] <macogw> pedahzur: oh when i couldnt install feisty.  that turned out to be my cd drive
[09:23] <rausb0> Sajes: that's bad..
[09:23] <Sajes> WaltzingAlong, It would.. If the driver sellers didn't limit the free version.
[09:24] <magnetron> Sajes: ADSL? cable? sharing with your neighbour via wlan?
[09:24] <WaltzingAlong> so 20+5 is still less than the 30 :D
[09:24] <Sajes> rausb0, Someone suggested I pay 60 grand for a new house, just for Highspeed. I laughed in their face with text.
[09:24] <WaltzingAlong> magnetron: dial up modem (winmodem)
[09:24] <Sajes> magnetron, Nothing. I live way way out in the sticks. Just dial up.
[09:24] <magnetron> WaltzingAlong: i know, i was discussing alternatives
[09:25] <Sajes> Or sattelite.. but we all know how that is.
[09:25] <Dave_> is there any command in the terminal that can change my IP?
[09:25] <magnetron> Dave_: yes, use ifconfig
[09:25] <WaltzingAlong> Dave_: of course
[09:25] <WaltzingAlong> Dave_: ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:25] <rausb0> Dave_: temporary: ifconfig. permanently: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:25] <nanonyme> rather just edit /etc/network/interfaces and then ifdown eth0;ifup eth0
[09:25] <Blackgoth> ifconfig your.ip your.subnet
[09:26] <nucco> howdy... my ubuntu box keeps changing the names of one of the network interfaces from 'eth1' to 'eth2'. everytime you reboot, it will be either one or the other... how do I fix this?
[09:27] <rausb0> Blackgoth: well that's not the actual syntax. it's  ifconfig interfacename ip-adress netmask subnet-mask
[09:27] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: hm i had to change that once myself, where was that. ...thinking ...
[09:27] <Sajes> I have another question - I requested free Kubuntu and Edubuntu CD's. Edubuntu is going to go on my Laptop, when I get it. Typically, how long do these take to arrive?
[09:27] <Dave_> will it work if I have a router??
[09:27] <Sajes> I know they say 6-10 weeks, but the 5-7 standard UPS shipping usually arrives in 3 days. Just wondering if that's the same case.
[09:28] <nucco> WaltzingAlong: waiting anxiously
[09:28] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: hhha um
[09:28] <rausb0> Dave_: if you have a router, you probably get your ip settings by dhcp
[09:28] <pedahzur> nucco: Take a look at 'man iftab'
[09:28] <WaltzingAlong> Dave_: and if you have adecent router you should be able to set static addresses through dhcp server
[09:29] <pedahzur> nucco: iftab is a file that defines the names of the interfaces by the MAC addresses.
[09:29] <Dave_> I know that If I turn it off and the on the Ip changes
[09:29] <Dave_> soo I guess I have a dynamic IP
[09:29] <rausb0> Dave_: yeah
[09:29] <pedahzur> nucco: a line like 'eth0 mac 00:00:00:00:00:00' will make the card with that mac address eth0 on every boot
[09:29] <digitalrao> I am having Kubuntu of installation programs with dealing Java
[09:30] <nucco> pedahzur: /etc/iftab ?
[09:30] <rausb0> Dave_: so why do you want to change your ip adress anyway?
[09:30] <WaltzingAlong> digitalrao: #kubuntu and which problem?
[09:30] <digitalrao> not reading DVD
[09:30] <pedahzur> johnww: I don't think you could move any of the windows system files to ext2.  Possibly My Documents and Program Files, but I'm not sure I'd want to mess with that.
[09:30] <digitalrao> so i can install Java 1.4
[09:30] <Dave_> is it really important?
[09:30] <pedahzur> nucco: yes, /etc/iftab
[09:30] <nucco> don't exist, I should create it right?
[09:31] <pedahzur> Yup.
[09:31] <digitalrao> should automaticly create it
[09:31] <mikubuntu> when i tryed a sudo apt-get update i got this error msg: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783; can anyone tell me what it means?
[09:31] <digitalrao> when installation of Ubuntu
[09:31] <WaltzingAlong> johnww: anything that ms windows needs to run has to be on fat/ntfs but once it gets to the point that the ext2 driver can be loaded, then files could be located on ext2 partitions
[09:32] <pedahzur> digitalrao: I don't know if it's automatically created or not.  What creates it?  It's not owned by any package (according to dpkg).
[09:32] <nucco> pedahzur: thanks
[09:32] <digitalrao> its in Ark
[09:32] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: it means what it says. :D apt got a list of the updates, attempted to verify that they were from who is claimed and not different somehow, but the key needed is not present on your machine
[09:32] <digitalrao> about the Installation of Java
[09:33] <magnetron> !java
[09:33] <Ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:33] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ummmm, so what do i do :_ ?
[09:33] <mikubuntu> :)
[09:33] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: well you could install the missing key
[09:34] <pedahzur> nucco: You're welcome, glad I could help.
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: actually i do not know the gui procedure in gnome for that (know it in cli and kde)
[09:34] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ummmmm, ok; how?
[09:35] <mikubuntu> can you tell me how to do it in terminal?
[09:35] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: there is a repository how to on the medibuntu site, sure i can walk you through the cli way
[09:35] <josiah> whats the hotkey to open the command window?
[09:36] <kkathman> alt-f2
[09:36] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ok, i open term now, thanks
[09:36] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: as per the instructions on the medibuntu site, just run    wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[09:36] <josiah> kkathman: ty
[09:36] <kkathman> yw
[09:36] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: the wget will download that file (the missing key) and the apt-key part will add that key to apt
[09:37] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: so at the end of that command you just told me, i insert PUBKEY & #?
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: no copy / paste it just like i have it   (should end with add -)
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: note the - at the end?
[09:38] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ok, i go try
[09:38] <WaltzingAlong> xp_killer: wget / downthemall firefox extension
[09:39] <xp_killer> WaltzingAlong: isnt kget wget from the same family?
[09:39] <WaltzingAlong> xp_killer: not that i know
[09:40] <xp_killer> WaltzingAlong: wa is downthemall?
[09:40] <faileas> kget is probably a front end
[09:40] <WaltzingAlong> xp_killer: it is a firefox extension; check it out
[09:40] <arun> i'm using ktorrent in ubuntu, and the program keeps crashing after 15 minutes of use
[09:40] <arun> any fixes?
[09:41] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: all i got for output was 'OK" is that what i was spose to get?  now do i run apt-get update again?
[09:41] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: that is all you should get ; ok run update again, now the key is available
[09:41] <WONToN> arun, dont use ktorrent lol
[09:41] <penguincentral> WONToN: second
[09:41] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ok, thanx; i go try
[09:41] <WaltzingAlong> WONToN: what azureus instead?
[09:41] <arun> WONToN: i dont know of any client for linux that has the features ktorrent has
[09:41] <WONToN> ugh*
[09:42] <arun> i dont like azureus
[09:42] <arun> deluge is nice, but doesn't have the features of ktorrent
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> arun: you could also use utorrent for that matter
[09:42] <arun> with wine?
[09:42] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: great, thanks, it worked fine ...
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> arun: yes
[09:42] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: great
[09:42] <arun> i'd rather not..
[09:42] <WONToN> arun, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client
[09:42] <mrfantastic> hello, can anyone help me with ubuntu ce(christian edition)?
[09:42] <Blackgoth> rtorrent > *
[09:43] <mikubuntu> mrfantastic: help with what specifically?
[09:43] <mrfantastic> i have a couple of problems with amarok and ktorrent
[09:43] <faileas> rtorrent is console, it can be a small turnoff for some
[09:43] <mrfantastic> the icons and tabs arent displaying properly
[09:44] <WaltzingAlong> mrfantastic: #kubuntu may be better able to handle those
[09:44] <mrfantastic> i merged all the conf files that the CE script saved and changed
[09:45] <mrfantastic> both apps ran perfectly with ubuntu 7.04
[09:46] <goghs> wha the hell is <your-cpu-arch>-pc
[09:46] <mrfantastic> i just cant figure out why this is happening thats all
[09:47] <mrfantastic> or can anyone point me to a script that changes my CE to the standard version of ubuntu
[09:47] <Blackgoth> mrfantastic: i'd go with a fresh cd.
[09:47] <WaltzingAlong> mrfantastic: never heard of the "christian edition"
[09:48] <Blackgoth> WaltzingAlong: http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html
[09:48] <WaltzingAlong> Blackgoth: second that
[09:48] <Blackgoth> it's a real distro :o
[09:48] <rathel> How do I convert flv using mencoder?
[09:48] <WaltzingAlong> rathel: which format would you like at the end?
[09:48] <Grungebunny> its listed under the ubuntu wikipedia I belive.. christian ubuntu
[09:49] <WaltzingAlong> alright, no worries
[09:49] <rathel> WaltzingAlong, ogg probably.
[09:49] <WaltzingAlong> will pass it to a past classmate, he is a typical christian extremist
[09:49] <Grungebunny> I prefer buddahist ubuntu myself
[09:49] <rausb0> hehe, is there a pagan edition too?
[09:50] <WONToN> how about a heathen edition?
[09:50] <Grungebunny> a satanic one
[09:50] <goghs> what is my <your-cpu-arch>???
[09:50] <mrfantastic> can i use the install cd like a windows cd...as in without having to reinstall ubuntu
[09:50] <CoasterMaster> goghs: what is the context?
[09:50] <mrfantastic> from a fresh format
[09:50] <CoasterMaster> goghs, but it's probably i386
[09:50] <dgjones> rausb0, http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/
[09:51] <WONToN> goghs, min is athlon-xp, thanks for asking
[09:51] <rausb0> lol
[09:51] <goghs> cp /usr/lib/grub/<your-cpu-arch>-pc/* /boot/grub/
[09:51] <WONToN> goghs, probably i686
[09:51] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: i wonder if you could help me with this other problem; when i listen to online radio or embedded music it skips alot if i am surfing on other tabs in firefox... someone told me to increase my buffer size, but i don't even know what program is playing the music; any suggestions?
[09:52] <Grungebunny> rausb0 see the term window he closes go up in flames? how he do that??
[09:52] <goghs> im almost done istalling ubuntu on fakeraid
[09:52] <jesson> how can i download vmware from terminal and auto install ? and hgow do u run it?
[09:52] <rausb0> Grungebunny: he? who?
[09:52] <WONToN> goghs, sounds very exciting (;
[09:53] <Grungebunny> rausb0 the video clip on the link you posted.
[09:53] <WONToN> jesson, server or client?
[09:53] <rausb0> Grungebunny: i didn't post a link
[09:53] <WONToN> fyi server = both
[09:53] <jesson> hmm wat do u mean i tot vmware if a software that let u install xp on ubuntu
[09:53] <Grungebunny> ah it was dgjones
[09:53] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: sudo aptitude install vmware-player     (or sudo aptitude install vmware-server)
[09:53] <ZackLee> how to open the printer administration program "spadmin" ?
[09:54] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: vmware is software that pretends to be a computer
[09:54] <ZackLee> i use ubuntu 7.04
[09:54] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: well there are many things i suppose it could be. which connection do you have? adsl? cable? dialup?
[09:54] <jesson> so wat do i need to install when i want to run xp on my linux? which 1?
[09:54] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: cable modem broadband
[09:55] <WONToN> jesson, i u don't know then it's safe to say server
[09:55] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: so you could install vmware which then is an application running under gnu/linux and inside that application you can install ms windows. ms windows will not know it is on virtualized hardware
[09:55] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: yes vmware-server
[09:55] <jesson> any software that wud let me run xp in ubntu is ok
[09:55] <WONToN> heh
[09:55] <centyx> spicy wonton soup w/ mystery meat is good.
[09:56] <chuy_max> !ntfs-3g
[09:56] <Ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:56] <WONToN> hehe
[09:56] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: for what did you want ms windows xp ?
[09:56] <centyx> get it at top wok from the racist japanese lady
[09:56] <jesson> so i cud play my fav games im ubntu cuz wine dont work for my game
[09:57] <jesson> in*
[09:57] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: which games are those? maybe they will not work well (or at all) in vmware-windows
[09:57] <jesson> starcraft
[09:57] <WONToN> jesson, you'll still need graphics drivrs properly set up
[09:57] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: i have had starcraft working through wine
[09:57] <WONToN> startcraft 1or 2
[09:58] <WONToN> ?
[09:58] <jesson> yah but not for b,net
[09:58] <WONToN> truw
[09:58] <centyx> games. they're almost as wasteful as IRC.
[09:58] <jesson> waltz u know know any bot for b.net that works on linux
[09:58] <WONToN> heh
[09:58] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: nope
[09:59] <Frogzoo> !appdb | jesson
[09:59] <Ubotu> jesson: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:59] <WaltzingAlong> centyx: it becomes what is made of it
[09:59] <jesson> ok how do i install vmware using terminal
[09:59] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: sudo aptitude install vmware-server
[09:59] <centyx> WaltzingAlong: i know irc can be useful
[09:59] <centyx> WaltzingAlong: maybe
[09:59] <johnww> lYne-ix or lin-ix ??
[09:59] <jesson> i can install software on my vmware ryt?
[10:00] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: any idea what i should do or wheree i should look to increase buffer? cable modem connection ...
[10:00] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: ok so cable modem seems fine enough. what is playing the audio? amarok? radioblogclub?
[10:00] <johnww> ubuntu or noobuntu?
[10:00] <WaltzingAlong> jesson: yes. the installation of vmware-server will ask for a key. you need to register at vmware.com to get that key
[10:01] <WaltzingAlong> johnww: nods
[10:01] <WONToN> johnww, there is a diffrence?
[10:01] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: thats what i don't know how to figure out?  what would be default from a fairl fresh install of feisty?
[10:01] <nucco> anybody tried ubuntu on an hp nx9420?
[10:01] <WaltzingAlong> johnww: Linus said there are different ways his name is pronounced but linux should be lin-ux
[10:01] <nucco> its a normal system, except it has an ati x1600
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: what are you doing when you hear the streaming audio?
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> johnww: i missed a "but" in there between name and is
[10:02] <nucco> the only versionof ubuntu that works well on it is dapper. even the latest gutsy doesn't...
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: ok so go with dapper
[10:03] <nucco> I want something more recent Waltzingalong, battery status, memory card reader etc. they only work in more recent kernels.
[10:03] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: for example, listening to internet radio on slackercom, or songs embedded in webpages, so i'm not actually launching any player specifically...
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[10:03] <josiah> what a good terminal? Something with handy tools and customization?
[10:03] <ZackLee> i can open spadmin now.. but how to add a printer, that option is not selectable (gray) ???
[10:04] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: ok so those would be played from within the browser, probably adobe flash; in one of them, click on the flash app to change the settings, you may be able to increase the buffer, but the connection seems fast so increasing the buffer may not help
[10:04] <targetone> anyone want to help me figure out how to get sound working on my dell inspiron 5100?
[10:04] <bullgard4> I started a Knoppix 5.1.0 lifeDVD. What command will show which screen resolution Knoppix detected?
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: ok so feisty just does not install on it?
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> bullgard4:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:05] <targetone> just installed ubuntu 7.04 and no sound
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> targetone: and your sound card is?
[10:05] <nucco> waltzingalong: xserver doesn't detect my display card, even gutsy's xserver doesn't.
[10:06] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ok, i understand; but i might as well try it; can you tell me how to find the settings area for the flash player?
[10:06] <targetone> how do i find out what my sound card is?
[10:06] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: so install in safe graphics mode or get to the console to get it working
[10:07] <Sajes> target, I'm not sure about linux, but in windows, start->run type dxdiag and go to sound tab. :p
[10:07] <nucco> waltzingalong: I've installed from text mode, and had to format afterwards because no amount of config could make xserver detect the video card
[10:07] <WaltzingAlong> mikubuntu: ok so for example on youtube i right mouse click any flash video, then left mouse click settings
[10:08] <targetone> argh! not dual booted, i installed ubuntu all by itself, will look, brb.
[10:08] <mikubuntu> WaltzingAlong: ahhhhhh, ok, lemme go see; thanks
[10:08] <Sajes> :P
[10:08] <dgjones> !sound || targetone
[10:08] <Ubotu> | targetone: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:08] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: ok so what are you asking to do? you have claimed to have tried it all without success already
[10:09] <Sajes> I gave up on trying to learn linux untill I buy a hardware modem, and that won't be till X-Fi is supported. :(
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: bios update?
[10:11] <Sajes> WaltzingAlong, Is there a guide to updating your bios to ensure your mobo doesn't get raped in the process? :\
[10:11] <nucco> nope
[10:11] <nucco> waltzingalong: no.
[10:11] <WaltzingAlong> Sajes: sure there would be. ask google
[10:11] <overclucker> hey google, Is there a guide to updating your bios to ensure your mobo doesn't get raped in the process?
[10:12] <Sajes> WaltzingAlong, Okay. I'll feel much safer updating my BIOS following the directions of random people. "u first bai a new mobo jus incast!!"
[10:12] <Sajes> ;)
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> Sajes: i had not realized it was so scary
[10:12] <Sajes> You ever fried your PSP updating Firmware? :\
[10:13] <WaltzingAlong> Sajes: get the rom, get the software to flash the bios with the new rom, do it
[10:13] <toogodoo> howzit
[10:13] <WaltzingAlong> nucco: have you tried the alternate cd? (non live)
[10:13] <Sajes> 0_0. Do it. Do it. ;)
[10:13] <gustavo> !pastebin
[10:13] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:14] <SlimG> I get this: fsck.ext3: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> Sajes: i have no psp but have flashed the bios of several machines
[10:14] <Sajes> what do you mean "get the rom"? O_o maybe I should stay away from flashing my BIOS.
[10:14] <SlimG> what to do? it's an ordinary non-raid sata disk
[10:15] <Sajes> I got a battery glitch when updating my PSP firmware.. Didn't read the print that said "Plug this into the wall".
[10:15] <erUSUL> SlimG: fsck is for partitions (that hold a filesystem btw) not entire discs