[00:00] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: should yes, assuming you have not removed the default driver/s, that would take some work
[00:00] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: Thanks for your help. I gotta run now
[00:00] <bobdobbs> How can I check if the default drivers exist on my system?
[00:01] <bobdobbs> 'locate -i nouveau' returns a bunch of things. Some are under the dir /usr/src/linux-headers-4.15.0-22/drivers/gpu/drm
[00:01] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -l nouveau* intel*
[00:02] <bobdobbs> "dpkg-query: no packages found matching nouveau*"
[00:02] <bobdobbs> yeek
[00:02] <raspberry> hey
[00:03] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -l *nouveau* *intel*
[00:03] <bobdobbs> oh. wups
[00:03] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: or via synaptic search
[00:03] <raspberry> I just test my new raspberry :)
[00:03] <raspberry> ubuntu mate
[00:04] <bobdobbs> Two_Dogs: https://hastebin.com/bizoxepuji.sql
[00:05] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: use apt search method
[00:07] <Two_Dogs> https://git.io/vhqv1 bobdobbs
[00:07] <bobdobbs> https://hastebin.com/uyowekiyit.scala
[00:08] <bobdobbs> I'm guessing I should install the package called xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ?
[00:08] <bobdobbs> oh, apt says that it is already installed
[00:09] <Two_Dogs> i dont think you need to, btw, i did not ask for apt-cache, i asked for apt
[00:09] <Two_Dogs> indeed ^^
[00:09] <bobdobbs> oh. sorry.
[00:09] <bobdobbs> right. hopefully I'll be back on channel shortly. thanks Two_Dogs
[00:10] <Two_Dogs> i dont use apt-cache, and i dont see in apt-cache 'yeah i am installed'
[00:11] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: you chose to purge nvidia and did so, for the historical documents
[00:16] <Two_Dogs> i cant install 18.04, assuming i did and had nvidia card/chip, the initial install would not force nvidia driver, yes?
[00:18] <i_am_bob> Hi Two_Dogs. It's bob again. With the display woes. After reboot I have no display. I was able to shell in though.
[00:18] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: you chose to purge nvidia and did so, for the historical documents
[00:19] <i_am_bob> yup. that's right.
[00:19] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: reinstall nvidia driver
[00:20] <i_am_bob> Two_Dogs: I'm pretty sure the nvidia drivers cause the display to freeze periodically. Shouldn't the nouveau drivers give me a usable alternative?
[00:20] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: usable yes
[00:21] <Two_Dogs> i nouveau now on a HTPC
[00:21] <i_am_bob> It's the 'usable' but I'm concerned with. The nvidia drivers make my system barely usable
[00:22] <Two_Dogs> i nouveau now on a HTPC and done so for long time, this is the PC the old lady expects to see her soaps via click click, bob
[00:24] <i_am_bob> iiuc, I have nouveau installed. But beyond that, I don't know what's happening. Maybe they are installed but not running?
[00:24] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: did you make tweaks to graphics nvidia wise?
[00:25] <Guest18092> test
[00:25] <Guest18092> nice
[00:25] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: see xorg.conf in /etc/X11/?
[00:25] <i_am_bob> Only one change that I've maintained since 14.04: swapping the order of the two display for the two monitors I use
[00:26] <i_am_bob> for that I used nvidia-settings. I didn't make any manual changes
[00:26] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: see xorg.conf in /etc/X11/?
[00:26] <i_am_bob> I mean, I didn't tweak text files
[00:26] <i_am_bob> lets see...
[00:27] <i_am_bob> I see the following files: xorg.conf.01112017  xorg.conf.08232016  xorg.conf.backup    xorg.conf.failsafe
[00:28] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: share /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:29] <Two_Dogs> or reinstall nvidia
[00:29] <i_am_bob> http://termbin.com/88l7
[00:30] <i_am_bob> Two_Dogs: are we looking for anything in particular in the log file? Or just looking?
[00:31] <Two_Dogs> (EE) and (WW) bad, bob
[00:31] <i_am_bob> Two_Dogs: at this point nvidia drivers are probably not a realistic option. Afaict they make my system unusable
[00:32] <Two_Dogs> ok
[00:32] <i_am_bob> ah, I see "screens not configured"
[00:33] <i_am_bob> I've only got a vague sense of what that means though. I remember trying to get X working on an old version of debian
[00:34] <i_am_bob> I could only configure screens after talking to engineers from the company that made the monitors
[00:34] <i_am_bob> Even then I destroyed three monitors trying to manually configure the screens
[00:35] <i_am_bob> back then if you config'd the monitor wrong you would physically damage the monitor
[00:36] <i_am_bob> But I've forgotten how all of this stuff works
[00:37] <i_am_bob> I know that with the nvidia drivers, screens are configured using a gui tool. Do you have to configure things manually with nouveau?
[00:44] <i_am_bob> So what do I now? It looks like nouveau makes my system unusable and nvidia's drivers also make my system unusable. Is there an alternative?
[00:46] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: is graphics stable on the live-session?
[00:47] <i_am_bob> what is a live-session?
[00:47] <Two_Dogs> the installer/live iso
[00:48] <i_am_bob> I don't know. But I have no way of finding out. I can't burn a CD or usb without having access to a working display
[00:48] <Two_Dogs> bob, how are you here with no graphics?
[00:48] <Two_Dogs> bob?
[00:49] <i_am_bob> I've shelled in from mac... oh yeah. I could burn a live usb from the mac
[00:49] <i_am_bob> he
[00:49] <Two_Dogs> ahh, shelled in
[00:50] <Two_Dogs> thank god that works
[00:55] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: for real fun you install nomachine server on ubuntu and the client on the mac, there is nothing pertier than a working gui desktop of linux on a apple product
[00:56] <i_am_bob> I went ahead and reinstalled the nvidia drivers. but now the display is slower and kludgier then before. And there's no video output to the second monitor
[00:56] <i_am_bob> Two_Dogs: I use the mac just because I have to. It's a modern mac. But I don't like using it.
[00:56] <Two_Dogs> of course
[00:57] <i_am_bob> I'm too used to linux. I don't like the way mac does things.
[01:02] <i_am_bob> oh. turns out the driver isn't loaded after all. If I try 'nvidia-settings', I get ERROR: NVIDIA driver is not loaded.
[01:02] <i_am_bob> how do I load the driver?
[01:10] <matjam> i_am_bob: software & updates, select the driver in "Addional Drivers"
[01:11] <matjam> then reboot.
[01:16] <Bashing-om> i_am_bob: driver issues, might check ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' that there are no conflicts . A conflict will result in a situation similar to what you are experiencing .
[01:19] <i_am_bob> matjam: thanks
[01:56] <Two_Dogs> i_am_bob: you got inxi installed?
[02:02] <AmR|EiSa> Hello
[02:02] <AmR|EiSa> Did Any one know how nivada work, I need to export full screen resolution list from nvidia to move it to other pc.
[02:05] <Two_Dogs> AmR|EiSa: nvidia driver is gonna work with a new card and monitor, yes?
[02:05] <oerheks> both same cards?
[02:06] <oerheks> xrandr would tell
[02:07] <Two_Dogs> that sounds like a mirror of confs thats gonna bork
[02:07] <AmR|EiSa> Two_Dogs: In one pc the other have the same, But not working right.
[02:08] <AmR|EiSa> So I try copy screen resolution list to it.
[02:08] <AmR|EiSa> yes
[02:10] <mdsm_> Hi, i installed linux on 2 machines, both using nvidia graphics cards. One is lagging with a better card. and the one with the worse card is working fine.. Could anybody hepl me figure it out?
[02:10] <Two_Dogs> AmR|EiSa: screen res after a nvidia driver install is done via the nvidia-conf(gui), its simple enough process
[02:10] <AmR|EiSa> The other pc in home, It's same card.
[02:10] <AmR|EiSa> https://pastebin.com/MLVhisRf
[02:11] <AmR|EiSa> Two_Dogs: Can I add this list to other pc ? if yes then how ?
[02:13] <Two_Dogs> AmR|EiSa: that list is 'xrand' dump?
[02:13] <AmR|EiSa> https://pastebin.com/MLVhisRf
[02:13] <AmR|EiSa> Two_Dogs: ^
[02:14] <oerheks> you could add them by forcing your custom xorg.conf .. but if the cards are equal, then there might be something else going on, try to reset the 2nd monitor to fabric defaults, sometimes helps
[02:14] <AmR|EiSa> oerheks: OK
[02:15] <mdsm_> i get
[02:16] <mdsm_> An error occured  in the packet manager 'Error broken count()'
[02:17] <mdsm_> the package system is broken
[02:48] <monksss> hello
[02:50] <monksss> I am pretty new to linux, and having trouble installing some collada files, could someone help me?
[02:50] <Two_Dogs> monksss: collada is an app?
[02:51] <monksss> no, some packages
 I need to install the library libpcrecpp0 to build them but this library is outdated
[02:54] <Two_Dogs> monksss: you need a specific version then, you found a repo/ppa where it may be available?
[02:55] <Two_Dogs> b0t libpcrecpp0 collada ubuntu https://git.io/vhqkm
[02:55] <monksss> Two_dogs: apparently there are two libraries that can be used instead of it, so i installed them, but when i try to build the collada file, it still want the original one
[02:56] <Two_Dogs> monksss: where are you getting instructions for build
[02:57] <RvG80> Hi, I'm a newbie. How do I install atom editor in Ubuntu. Thanks
[02:58] <Two_Dogs> RvG80: does 'atom' website offer the thing in 'deb'?
[02:58] <monksss> two_dogs: yep 'package libpcrecp0 not installed' and 'problem with dependencies - not configured' (translation of errors may be approximative)
[02:59] <RvG80> Two_Dogs: I'm not sure. I forgot to check, Thanks
[02:59] <Two_Dogs> monksss: so you need that lib, where is the lib libpcrecp0 available for d/l or install?
[03:00] <Bashing-om> monksss: 'apt policy libpcrecpp* " seems to indicate that it is superceeded . Here it is libpcrecpp0v5 .
[03:02] <monksss> two_dogs: when i type 'apt-get install libpcrecpp0' it says 'package not available, following packages can be used libpcrecpp0v5 or libpcrecpp0v5/i386
[03:03] <Two_Dogs> monksss: and you did install libpcrecpp0v5?
[03:04] <monksss> Bashing-om: Two_Dogs : yes, and then trying to build the collada file still result in 'libpcrecpp0 missing'
[03:04] <Two_Dogs> monksss: ok, so we are back to finding older version or some other method of build
[03:05] <monksss> Two_dogs: is it possible to force installing an outdated version?
[03:08] <Two_Dogs> monksss: possible, yes, wise? maybe not, security issues etc
[03:09] <Two_Dogs> monksss: still, you are left needing to find a repo/ppa providing the thing
[03:11] <monksss> Two_dogs: i will try to find a repository on the website of the app i am trying to install
[03:11] <Two_Dogs> monksss: a cheap trick is to symlink the provided lib to look like the version collada is looking for
[03:12] <Two_Dogs> monksss: its not fool proof, but worse case scenario is just another error message
[03:12] <monksss> Two_dogs: i will try to find a repository on the website of the app i am trying to install
[03:12] <Two_Dogs> monksss: ok
[03:12] <monksss> Two_dogs: sorry mistyped
[03:12] <monksss> Two_dogs: what would be the command terminal for the symlink?
[03:13] <monksss> Two_dogs: you just change the name of the library?
[03:14] <Two_Dogs> monksss the command is ln and the method shown on the man for ln https://git.io/vhqkP
[03:15] <monksss> Two_dogs: thank you
[03:17] <Two_Dogs> monksss: ok, the simple version of the command is> ln -s /the/location/filename  /the/location/faked-name
[03:18] <Two_Dogs> monksss: target and link
[03:24] <monksss> Two_dogs: well, sadly it didn't work :)
[03:25] <Two_Dogs> monksss: what portion did not work?
[03:26] <Two_Dogs> 'it' is alot of things
[03:28] <monksss> Two_dogs: hmm, well it didn't send me any error when i tried to symlink, but it still sent me the same error as before when trying to build the collada file
[03:28] <monksss> Two_dog: if it helps
[03:28] <Two_Dogs> monksss: share link creation command used
[03:29] <Two_Dogs> it helps to see where it fell apart
[03:29] <monksss> Two_dog: /usr/share/doc$ sudo ln -s libpcrecpp0v5 libpcrecpp0
[03:30] <Two_Dogs> monksss: copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -L libpcrecpp0v5 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[03:32] <Two_Dogs> monksss: looks like you created a symlink in the /usr/share/doc dir, which is not where the 'lib' actually resides
[03:33] <monksss> Two_dog: it just gives me this link http://termbin.com/njcs
[03:33] <nicolas_> alguien me puede ayudar
[03:36] <Two_Dogs> monksss: look at the link, see the possible target in the directory /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcrecpp.so.0.0.1 ?
[03:38] <monksss> Two_dog: yes
[03:39] <Two_Dogs> monksss: that is the 'target', question is where link needs to be to satisfy the build script and with what faked name
[03:40] <Two_Dogs> assuming of course the faked version is close enough not to bork
[03:40] <monksss> Two_dog: isn't it fine if the file stays in the same folder?
[03:41] <Two_Dogs> monksss: does collada have a help channel?
[03:41] <Two_Dogs> monksss: what is fine is satisfying the build script
[03:43] <Two_Dogs> monksss: you aint shared the build dump with errors yet, someone might see something familiar and help, i am out of the guessing at it
[03:44] <monksss> Two_dog: ok, thank you for your help  so far
[03:47] <Two_Dogs> monksss: btw, what does collada do?
[03:51] <monksss> Two_dog: well, it stands for collaborative Design Activity and I think it is used to manipulate 3D data
[04:31] <plasmoduck> anyone know much about libreboot? I'm wondering if it's safe to try and install it now whilst I have a working system setup or is there a risk of something going wrong and screwing up my installation?
[04:42] <Two_Dogs> plasmoduck: a borked libreboot sounds dangerous
[04:42] <Two_Dogs> plasmoduck: is reboot method now broke?
[04:46] <Chirrups> How do I change the temporary working directory for a cat * | sort | uniq > file command? It's currently storing files in /temp and I have about 230gb of text to sort through
[04:46] <Chirrups> I'd like to offload it to another directory
[04:53] <Two_Dogs> Chirrups: my guess: sort command is using /temp, 'man sort' explains how to use other than /tmp
[04:55] <oerheks> yes, sort your /tmp
[04:55] <stronty> I upgraded my pc to 18.04 yesterday and it crapped out with an error trying to install "menu".  No idea why it did that, but i managaed to fix it from commend line, however now when i reboot DNS is totally broken.
[04:56] <stronty> network manager sees my router advertised DNS server (my router) and reports its address as the dns server.  yet resolvd knows nothing about that.
[04:57] <EriC^^> Chirrups: run > /different/path/file
[04:57] <stronty> these are the relevent configs, i believe: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/3RVGHcHNDJ/
[04:58] <stronty> I have read up everything I can find and nothing seems to apply, and nothing I have tried has had no effect.
[05:08] <IonTau> stronty, just fixed my DNS issues
[05:08] <stronty> IonTau, Any pointers?
[05:08] <IonTau> stronty, try this: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8851#issuecomment-385228753
[05:09] <IonTau> check where you /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to
[05:09] <datlink> does anyone know how to configure my tty serial?
[05:10] <IonTau> stronty, it appears that it should be /run/systemd/resolv/resolv.conf
[05:10] <IonTau> all I need to do now is fix my general gnome issues and the loss of the screen brightness controls... :(
[05:11] <datlink> try xconf
[05:12] <IonTau> I'm currning running the older version of linux from the grub menu... for some reason that still works.
[05:12] <IonTau> linux 4.4 rather than 4.15
[05:12] <datlink> how do I check my version of linux?
[05:12] <IonTau> xorg is hogging all the cpu when running on the other version
[05:12] <IonTau> datlink, uname -a
[05:13] <IonTau> stronty, did it work for you?
[05:13] <datlink> IonTau, THanks!
[05:13] <stronty> IonTau, that didn't help my problem unfortunately.  It looks like for whatever reason network manager isn't telling systemd resolve anything about my DHCP configured DNS Servers.
[05:14] <stronty> in fact now /etc/resolv.conf ends in a comment saying # No DNS servers known.
[05:15] <stronty> yes network manager does know 2 dns servers.  One I manually set <IP_ADDRESS> and my automatic one from DHCP.
[05:15] <IonTau> stronty, what does it say in /etc/systemd/resolv/resolv.conf?
[05:16] <stronty> i don't have that file.
[05:16] <IonTau> sorry
[05:16] <stronty> I only have a /etc/systemd/resolv.conf
[05:16] <IonTau> stronty, /run/systemd/resolv/resolv.conf
[05:17] <stronty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZMnNtWnnwG/
[05:17] <IonTau> I'm no expert but I think /run/systemd is where systemd puts its dynmically generated configs
[05:17] <IonTau> the issue will be that you need to create the link in /etc back to it
[05:17] <stronty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y4CDxMqgt7/
[05:18] <stronty> i have that link.  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 26 13:12 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
[05:19] <IonTau> stronty, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xGwhjFm3mj/
[05:19] <IonTau> ah...
[05:19] <IonTau> OK..
[05:19] <stronty> I am not sure anyone is an expert on systemd, all i see are people who struggle through when its broken, somehow get it working, and cross their fingers that it never happens again.  Yet, forever live in fear.
[05:20] <IonTau> stronty, yeah, systemd is challenging...
[05:22] <datlink> how do I become an expert in Linux bash?
[05:22] <IonTau> datlink, practice
[05:22] <IonTau> and google
[05:22] <stronty> hmm, maybe i should just delete resolv.conf and hard set <IP_ADDRESS> as a dns server manually.  At least it might recover a functional DNS temporarily.
[05:23] <stronty> so don't link to systemd
[05:23] <stronty> i know my dhcp assigned DNS wont work then, but it doesn't work now, so...
[05:27] <IonTau> stronty, have to read through this? https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.network.html
[05:27] <datlink> how do I list my serial interfaces in bash?
[05:28] <stronty> IonTau, no but i will do now.
[05:29] <IonTau> stronty, you might have a lingering config file located in the mentioned directory
[05:31] <deww> datlink: prob /dev/ttyS*
[05:32] <stronty> IonTau: Nope, the first two directories don't exist and /etc/systemd/network is empty
[05:33] <Cruck> hi there again everyone
[05:34] <Cruck> I tried to make an EFI volume, a /boot ext4 volume and a / partition on the usb stick but ubuntu installer still puts the boot loader onto the hard disk and not the usb stick I even tried to detach all hard disks from the system and only attached the usb stick hoping to enforce the installer to put the boot loader on the usb but the usb is still not bootable on other machines
[05:35] <Cruck> I even tried to partition the usb stick using cfdisk but it didn't work either
[05:35] <Cruck> How can I make my usb stick bootable from every machine out there?
[05:35] <Cruck> btw this didn't used to be this difficult before
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Cruck: ask EriC^^ its our uefi specialist
[05:36] <Cruck> EriC^^: you around?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> Cruck: can you explain whats your end goal? ubuntu version? singleboot/dualboot?
[05:38] <stronty> IonTau: ok, so i made a static resolv.conf and put nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> in it and dns now works.
[05:38] <Cruck> lotuspsychje: I only want to make my usb stick bootable everywhere. I am using ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[05:38] <stronty> so the probem is certainly something horrible going wrong in systemd
[05:41] <Cruck> btw why can't I change the password of my hotspot in ubuntu 18.04 like before? it defaults to something horrible! pttH44XZ?
[05:42] <Cruck> I tried modifying the hotspot file in the network manager folder but when I turn on hotspot again it defaults to that horrible password
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Cruck: this tool looks nice, it has a persistent option: http://multibootusb.org/
[05:42] <Cruck> lotuspsychje: is it maybe possible to not go third party?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Cruck: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-usb-stick-on-linux
[05:47] <Cruck> Am I getting old or the world of computing is trying to put some pain in users' ass a little bit? I mean things feel like are falling apart!
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Cruck: new ubuntu versions means new techniques at some times, with a little patience things will come togheter
[05:48] <oerheks> Cruck,  no need for that language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[05:48] <Cruck> lotuspsychje: LOL on that 'will come together' part! Should we blame Trump for this as well?!
[05:48] <oerheks> and politics ..
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Cruck: lets not go into offtopic, focus on your issue
[05:50] <Cruck> oerheks: Just trying to make the best out of the worst situation by putting some fun in! Also why do you ask for 'family friendly'? IRC is a nerdy environment!
[05:50] <Cruck> I mean it is IRC!!!!
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !language | Cruck not only technical users come here
[05:50] <oerheks> i mean, read the c.o.c.
[05:50] <oerheks> kiddo, you don't make friends that way
[05:51] <Cruck> me /querying oerheks
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> try this for your hotspot Cruck https://www.debugpoint.com/2018/05/create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu-android-support/
[05:52] <oerheks> just change the hotspot key in your gnome-keyring
[05:53] <Cruck> oerheks: ok but what about the security and such settings? in perivious versions I could choose what type of security I wanted it to have, WAP, WEP, ....
[05:56] <IonTau> stronty, how about this one? https://askubuntu.com/questions/891694/systemd-networkd-daemon-does-not-start-the-dhcp-client
[05:56] <IonTau> right at the end
[06:00] <Cruck> lotuspsychje: Thanks https://www.debugpoint.com/2018/05/create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu-android-support/ !
[06:00] <Strontium> IonTau,  i have a fix which reanabled dns from my dhcp server.  The fix was uninstall systemd resolve and install unbound.  It was easy to do and just works.  https://blobfolio.com/2017/05/fix-linux-dns-issues-caused-by-systemd-resolved/
[06:01]  * Cruck thinks: It is amazing how any single one of these links can execute a js and pwn you!
[06:05] <Cruck> :)
[06:05] <Cruck> see you around folks!
[06:06] <Two_Dogs> Cruck: did you install clean or upgrade?
[06:06] <IonTau> Strontium, glad it's sorted for you...
[06:06] <Two_Dogs> !forum
[06:07] <IonTau> shouldn't be so bad though given the critical nature of networking and name resolution... :-/
[06:08] <Two_Dogs> the forum link is dead
[06:08] <Two_Dogs> or i got the bad chrome
[06:10] <Strontium> IonTau: I know right, anyway i am happy with the solution, i have used unbound before (i actually run it as my primary name server on my network).  Thanks for the pointers though.
[06:13] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: your router provides dns resolving?
[06:16] <Strontium> Yes, i use openwrt/lede.  So i use dnsmasq to provide DHCP and local dns query results and forward all other dns to unbound on the same box which acts as a primary name server.  Something like this: http://kacangbawang.com/say-bye-to-providers-dns-servers-be-your-own-dns-resolver/
[06:16] <Strontium> Or unbound is forwarding local queries to dnsmasq, one way or the other, i can't remeber exactly which because its always just worked after i set it up.
[06:18] <Strontium> unbound can resolve directly from the root name servers, and recursively resolve then cache the result for next time.
[06:18] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: the downside is initial dns queries can be a little longer, but subsequent queries are very fast and its as anonymous as dns can get
[06:23] <AK34> hay
[06:24] <wyseguy> haaaayyy
[06:24] <AK34> were are u from
[06:24] <wyseguy> SoCal, you?
[06:25] <AK34> indo..u know?
[06:25] <wyseguy> you mean Indio?
[06:25] <AK34> what is socal?
[06:25] <wyseguy> southern california
[06:26] <AK34> so far
[06:26] <wyseguy> may different ways to take what you said lol
[06:27] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: On Unbuntu, by default Unbound is just querying my upstream unbound as its dns server.  But it can be configured to also recursively resolve dns queries directly and not use the upstream server at all.
[06:28] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: you replaced the default resolve method with unbound, did you have to manually config unbound afterwards?
[06:29] <AK34> we dont have
[06:29] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: nope, it works straight up, the only configuration change i made manually was to network manager.  i added dns=unbound thats all
[06:29] <Strontium> the link i posted is very succinct in how to do it.  If you do it, make sure you do the last step
[06:30] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: did you do a clean install or upgrade into ubuntu version being used now?
[06:30] <Strontium> which is to install  dnssec-trigger as well.
[06:30] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: Upgrade.
[06:30] <Two_Dogs> from which version?
[06:30] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: Worst Ubuntu upgrade i can remember.  17.10.
[06:31] <Strontium> Everything worked fin on 17.10 but my upgrade borked out half way through "installing menu" whatever that means.
[06:31] <Strontium> so i had to manually recover.
[06:31] <Strontium> Its probably that which crucified by systemd resolve
[06:31] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: how does 17.10 use for dns resolve manager?
[06:31] <Strontium> but i don't know.
[06:31] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: I THINK, its using systemd resolve
[06:32] <Strontium> but my systemd resolve wasn't giving me any errors, it just wasn't doing anything.  It was loaded and running, seemingly.
[06:32] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: you are not the first person to bring up 'dns...bork..upgrade'
[06:33] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: I know, i read many forum posts about it, a lot from 17.04 and earlier.  But none of those "fixes" helped my problem.
[06:33] <Strontium> So i gave up and went unbound.
[06:34] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: you got to do what ever works :)
[06:34] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: I don't think many people think too highly of systemd resolve.
[06:34] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: thats what i hear
[06:35] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: Exactly.  But anyway, if you are interested in setting up your own dnssec recursive resolver, i would definitely recommend giving unbound a go.
[06:35] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: but systemd-resolve works fine on a clean install
[06:36] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: yes, until it doesn't.  Which is my case.  It worked fine in 17.10 and 18.04 nope.
[06:38] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: i setup dnssec on my lan, everything loved it except the ipad, hell if i know why, so i disabled it from dnsmasq, tried it three times because i just could not believe i had done it right twice before
[06:39] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: the issue with the systemd-resolve service bork has to be something glitching in the upgrade, my guess
[06:39] <Strontium> Yes, i have a strange problem with my wifes iphone, its very flaky on my network.  Everything else works fine, but that has problems doing dns and its network access is a lot slower than everything else too.
[06:39] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: Yes i agree, i think my broken upgrade had something to do with it.
[06:40] <Strontium> I need to resolve that issue one day about the iphone.  If you have ipad issues with dnssec, then i am guessing its something apple do strangely.
[06:41] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: i googled it, 'dnssec ipad' , came up  crickets
[06:42] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: you purged the package systemd-resolve or just disabled the service?
[06:42] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: Yes, same here.  I need to get wireshark technical and see whats not happening
[06:42] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: Just disabled it.
[06:43] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: it would be interesting to see what the conf looks like for systemd-resolve
[06:43] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dnssec-analyzer/id410032288?mt=8  this might help diagnose your dnssec problems.  I will get it installed on my wifes iphone for testing.
[06:43] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: we are getting off into OT
[06:44] <Two_Dogs> thnks though :)
[06:44] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: yup :)  last i will say on the subject.  Although if you work anything out feel free to PM me.
[06:44] <Two_Dogs> Strontium: aye
[06:45] <Strontium> Two_Dogs: this is my systemd.conf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CGM7rPbPbH/
[06:45] <Strontium> I added DNSSEC=allow-downgrade
[06:45] <Strontium> originally after the upgrade it was commented out.
[06:46] <Strontium> But it makes no difference either way.  Except it did prove that systemd resolve was reading the file.
[07:01] <wyseguy> anyone know much about ubiquiti? trying to migrate a site to a new controller and 15 other imports worked, but 1 will not and it says there was an error uploading the backup file. Ideas?
[07:51] <fishcooker> is there any documentation about software raid documentation... i want to learn troubleshoot the possibility of data loss that could happen
[07:52] <fishcooker> im afraid it could be disaster on the next
[08:41] <rick_> having problems with audiophile 2496 lost after suspend
[08:41] <rick_> have tried all usual tricks
[08:42] <rick_> other audio outputs are fine
[08:44] <rick_> never used this before, Do I come back later?
[08:45] <rick_> having problems with audiophile 2496 lost after suspend
[08:46] <rick_> having problems with audiophile 2496 lost after suspend
[08:48] <rick_> having problems with audiophile 2496 lost after suspend
[09:01] <signormagi> hello
[09:01] <signormagi> can anyone help me with wifi drivers?
[09:03] <signormagi> https://i.imgur.com/QQw6ftT.jpg
[09:03] <rud0lf> signormagi: please state your problem rather than seeking the person to help
[09:04] <signormagi> check the imgur rud0lf
[09:04] <signormagi> in settings it says no wifi adapters found
[09:04] <signormagi> im using wired now but absolutely need to get this to work
[09:04] <signormagi> it's a wna3100 stick rud0lf , and I already tried all the guides on the forum
[09:05] <signormagi> please
[09:08] <signormagi> anyone?
[09:09] <guest___> how to remove firefox and thunderbird ?
[09:14] <mdsm> i think you can write something ith purge
[09:15] <Two_Dogs> guest___: how do you install apps?
[09:15] <guest___> by using application store
[09:15] <coldpresent> sudo apt install <name of app>
[09:15] <coldpresent> anyone knows why mokutil fails to get root password hash from /etc/shadow?
[09:16] <Two_Dogs> guest___: via app store provide a 'remove' option?
[09:16] <guest___> Two_Dogs: still ppa are present
[09:17] <guest___> and software update download some firefox package
[09:17] <Two_Dogs> guest___: remove the ppa, software-sources manager
[09:17] <guest___> how ?
[09:18] <Two_Dogs> guest___: how did you add the ppa?
[09:18] <guest___> idk
[09:18] <Two_Dogs> really?
[09:19] <Two_Dogs> guest___: install 'inxi' n
[09:21] <Two_Dogs> guest___: install 'inxi', done?
[09:21] <guest___> no application  found
[09:22] <Two_Dogs> odd
[09:22] <coldpresent> exit
[09:28] <mdsm> gust you have to write
[09:28] <mdsm> sudo apt install inxi
[09:28] <mdsm> not just install inxi
[09:52] <shree> xrog using more cpu in ubuntu 18.04
[09:56] <shree> how to find wich process is using xrog...?
[10:01] <tomreyn> shree: what's xrog ?
[10:01] <tomreyn> do you mean xorg?
[10:01] <shree> yes xorg
[10:02] <mdsm_> Hi guys, i have a huge problem trying to get my ssh to work
[10:02] <mdsm_> when i try to install things i get this
[10:02] <mdsm_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FXz7SrQzgS/
[10:02] <tomreyn> shree: check the process list, there will likely be another process consuming many cpu cycles, running on X.
[10:02] <mdsm_> and autoremove gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XqFsYmzx7x/
[10:04] <shree> i have checked process list using system monitor but there are mainly three process using much cpu,,gnome-shell,gnome-system monitor and xorg.
[10:04] <zero0000> hi guys anyone working with i3wm and compton on a dual screen?
[10:05] <mdsm_> does somebody kind have some time over to help me with a package problem?
[10:07] <tomreyn> shree: gnome-system-monitor is the process list you were running, it onlyx consumes many cpu cycles while it's running, so not an issue. gnome-shell is the gnome3 foundation, it can consume much cpu cycles, so this is probably your issue. your computer is maybe not that modern then? if so, i'd suggest you try a different desktop environment.
[10:08] <shree> i have laptop with 4g ram and i5 processor i think this is enough...for ubuntu
[10:08] <jatt> lmao
[10:08] <tomreyn> mdsm_: provide more info, outputs of: lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version; sudo apt update; apt-cache policy; sudo apt -f install
[10:08] <zero0000> anyone know how to run compton on 1 display only so my second doesnt dim when not active?
[10:09] <shree> when i am using ubuntu 16.04 it was very fast and it has very long bettry backup compared to 18.04
[10:09] <afidegnum> hello good morning, i am having issue with my RAID arrays, can anyone assist?
[10:09] <tomreyn> shree: well gnome3 is quite demanding, 4 GB RAM is not that much nowadays. you could maybe try to use some tweak tools to tame it a little.
[10:09] <mdsm_> tomryn can you query me?
[10:10] <afidegnum> my raid disk is 2Tb in size but due to initial configuration, i m having only 16GB to use, how do i make use of all the 2TB ?  https://ghostbin.com/paste/vuzeh
[10:11] <jj15> I'm rather confused on best practices when installing node in production. For example, is it ok to install as root, but run my application with pm2 as a non privileged user or does node have to be install locally by the user that is running the script? Are there any resource to best practices/security when installing node in prod?
[10:11] <shree> @tomreyn what can i do..?i have installed compiz manager it that suitable for tweek..?
[10:12] <mdsm_> tomreyn: can you query me?
[10:12] <tomreyn> mdsm_: i could, but won't. let's keep support on this channel, please.
[10:12] <ande_> Good day everyone!~ Im need help! Somebody may talk to me how i can settings my wifi connection on notebook?
[10:12] <mdsm_> ah ok, i didnt want to clutter this chat but if that's the way to go i dont mind :)
[10:13] <tomreyn> shree: sudo apt install gnome-tweak-tool
[10:13] <ande_> Sorry from bad english, Im from Russia
[10:13] <afidegnum> any insight ?
[10:13] <mdsm_> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mzb8D6BYrc/
[10:13] <mdsm_> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gy9xFNJ9b8/
[10:14] <shree> after installing tweak tools what changes is required to reduce cpu usage...?
[10:14] <mdsm_> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FXQzJ5jvHF/
[10:14] <mdsm_> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4QFNBGfqW7/
[10:15] <tomreyn> shree: i don't exactly know what it can do and whether it can actaully make changes to reduce the computational overhead, but it's worth a try. also maker sure your graphics card works properly and graphics calculations are done by it (glxinfo | grep '^direct rendering') so this doesn't have to be done by the cpu instead.
[10:15] <mdsm_> tomreyn:
[10:15] <mdsm_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:15] <mdsm_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PkQXPbNH3y/
[10:16] <ande_> How I can connect in russian channel from IRC where talk about ubuntu? I never use IRC client all of my life :)
[10:16] <shree> ok let me see glxinfo..
[10:17] <ande_> somebody help
[10:17] <tomreyn> mdsm_: did you recently upgrade this system? if so, from which other ubuntu release? when did the issue start occurring and what did you do before that which may have introduced the issue?
[10:17] <mdsm_> ande, search on the internet for a russian channel, then use hexchat "server" join a channel
[10:17] <tomreyn> !ru | ande_
[10:18] <mdsm_> tomreyn: i installed it 2 days ago from the latest version, and then i did sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade (per the tutorials request)
[10:18] <ande_> mdsm_: Thank you!
[10:18] <tomreyn> ande_: your english is fine, though. i'm just a little busy with a couple other folks here already, and can't also help you.
[10:18] <tomreyn> (not right now)
[10:19] <shree> glxinfo | grep '^direct rendering' [10:19] <tomreyn> mdsm_: just running "sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade" would not cuase this issue. how did you install nvidia drivers? which tutorial were you following?
[10:20] <mdsm_> tomreyn: i installed the video drivers by using the "additional updates" program in xubuntu
[10:20] <mdsm_> tomreyn: i just chose nvidia 390 drivers
[10:20] <tomreyn> shree: ok, probably fine. to make sure, what does "glxinfo -B | grep renderer" return?
[10:22] <tomreyn> mdsm_: alright, then it looks like i may have been wrong and there are buggy driver packages in ubuntu. what else did the tuorial you followed ask you to do?
[10:22] <ande_> tomreyn: Thank you. You are answer when you are busy.That will wery nice
[10:23] <tomreyn> ande_:  ;-) did you find the russian language ubuntu support channel yet?
[10:23] <tomreyn> ande_: if not, see what ubottu told you (in russian) above
[10:23] <mdsm_> tomreyn: as for the tutorial i cannot remember, but the actual installation was guided through by a 10year running professional linux worker. I only used the tutorial after i got it all set up. And it told me to update and upgrade
[10:24] <Ak34> hallo
[10:24] <mdsm_> tomreyn: and that's about all i've done really
[10:24] <mdsm_> tomreyn: except for installing the drivers with the application
[10:24] <ande_> tomreyn: Yap, Im find.. First of my life Im use the IRC-chat, my plague.
[10:25] <ande_> oooopss
[10:25] <ande_> apologise
[10:25] <tomreyn> afidegnum: why do you think only 16 GB are available?
[10:25] <shree> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pmPsHQ8D26/
[10:26] <mdsm_> tomreyn: it might be worth noticing that i used the exact same USB to install linux (identically) on this pc, and my laptop(which also uses nvidia) and that one works fine..
[10:27] <tomreyn> mdsm_: okay. that's a bad user experience, sorry to hear this. i generally don't like (and am not well prepared to) support people with nvidia drivers, so i'm not sure i can help much here. but i'm sure seomeone else will be happy and able to later this day. just sum up the information you already provided to me into a single post and ask the same question again later.
[10:27] <afidegnum> tomreyn: no, i mean that's what is being confgure dto use,
[10:27] <afidegnum> to use
[10:27] <afidegnum> the rest 1.6TB is empty
[10:28] <mdsm_> tomreyn: Do you think it is an issue that i must reinstall linux for, or do you think it is fixable?
[10:28] <shree> @tomreyn    " glxinfo -B | grep renderer"   ==>http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pmPsHQ8D26/
[10:32] <tomreyn> afidegnum: from what i see in the lsblk output you have four software raid devces configured. md0 is 16 GB, and is swap, md1 is 488MB, mounted at /boot, md2 is 218 GB, mounted at /, md3 is 16GB, mounted at /home. md0, md1 and md3 are all spun across the sda and sdb disks, which provide  240GB capacity. you have md3 spun across sdc and sdd, which are disks with  1.8 TB capacity. you have more parititons on sdc and sdd, but they don't seem to be
[10:32] <tomreyn> in use.
[10:33] <tomreyn> afidegnum: how do you intent to use the remaining disk space? maybe this is a multi boot system and you alread yuse the remaining partitioned space on sdc and sdd on the other OS?
[10:33] <afidegnum> tomreyn: i m referring to md3
[10:33] <tomreyn> mdsm_: i think it's fixable
[10:33] <afidegnum> i m mapping md3 to /home
[10:34] <ande_> Hmmm.. From Russian channel are silence :) I think my question is very idiot :)
[10:34] <mdsm_> tomreyn: Ok thanks a lot :)
[10:34] <mdsm_> I have a problem with my nvidia drivers, could any kind soul help me? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f5XGwTNjV3/
[10:35] <tomreyn> shree: oh, intel gpu. this will still offload a lot of computations to the cpu. so my recommendation stands: consider a different desktop environment. gnome 3 in 18.04 is a lot more demanding than gnome 2 in 16.04 was.
[10:35] <ande_> mdsm_: Brother from trouble! :)
[10:35] <tomreyn> afidegnum: so you'd like more disk space to be available on /home ?
[10:35] <mdsm_> ande_: Yeah...
[10:36] <afidegnum> tomreyn: yes
[10:37] <ande_> mdsm_: Im use the nouveau driver, and everything is OK, but if Im install proprietary driver all of my system will be crash... And Im don know why :)
[10:37] <shree> @tomreyn if i change gnome to xfce does it solve my problme..?
[10:37] <mdsm_> tomreyn: Oh sorry, could you please help me phrase the issue? I am not allowed to install anything using apt, it just gives me the same message about packet error and fix-install
[10:38] <mdsm_> ande_: I see.. wtf.. that's similar to my problem then
[10:38] <tomreyn> afidegnum: okay, so you'll need to maker more space for it first of all what are sdc2,3,4 and sdd2,3,4 being used for currently?
[10:38] <afidegnum> yes
[10:38] <tomreyn> shree: i would think so, yes.
[10:39] <shree> ok tomreyn thanks a lot...for help
[10:40] <tomreyn> mdsm_: i suggest you search the web for your error message about the nvidia package not installing, it can be a generic bug, and then you should find a bug report on launchpad about it, which may have workarounds in it.
[10:40] <ande_> mdsm_: Man... You are understand english. Im from Russia, and my teacher say me about Im never say a few word in english... ANd you know.. That true.. My ubuntu in english. ANd if crash report is open Im understrand what they say me :)
[10:41] <tomreyn> afidegnum: this was not a yes / no question, though
[10:41] <ande_> Dont understand*
[10:41] <mdsm_> ande_: может быть, ваш учитель плох
[10:42] <ande_> mdsm_: WHOW!!!
[10:42] <mdsm_> ande_: haha xD
[10:42] <ande_> mdsm_: Use the translator?
[10:42] <tomreyn> afidegnum: please re-read my question and answer it, then we can proceed.
[10:42] <mdsm_> ande_: yeah i did, i tried learning russian before. so i know only a little.. very little
[10:42] <mdsm_> ande_: you should query me if you want to talk other than support :)
[10:43] <tomreyn> ande_, mdsm_: please note this channel is just for support really. you are welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:43] <tomreyn> ha :)
[10:43] <afidegnum> tomreyn: they are new disks i m now going to make use of them
[10:43] <ande_> mdsm_: Im too.. Maybe we are practice sometime?
[10:43] <tomreyn> afidegnum: so there is currently no data on these partitions i listed?
[10:43] <afidegnum> no data
[10:44] <ande_> tomreyn: Oh, sorry. /join #ubuntu-offtopic --- that I will be write?
[10:45] <mdsm_> Help needed: I have a driver problem which has ruined my packet manager i think. I am not allowed to do anything with installing to do. It is related to nvidia driveri think.    --    может быть, ваш учитель плох
[10:45] <mdsm_> Help needed: I have a driver problem which has ruined my packet manager i think. I am not allowed to do anything with installing to do. It is related to nvidia driveri think.    --    Full https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f5XGwTNjV3/
[10:46] <tomreyn> afidegnum: ok, so i suggest you download and boot into gparted-live, remove those partitions i listed, resize sdc1 and sdd1 to cover the entire disks, and then grow md3 to do so, too, and then the file system on it.
[10:47] <tomreyn> ande_: yes, but you'll need to have your nickname registered to join it.
[10:47] <tomreyn> !register | ande_
[10:47] <tomreyn> !ot | ande_
[10:48] <ande_> ohh..
[10:49] <afidegnum> i used gdisk, here is what ia have done so far https://ghostbin.com/paste/s35dt
[10:49] <afidegnum> tomreyn: i m on a remote server,
[10:51] <mdsm_> Help needed of kind soul:
[10:51] <mdsm_> Full https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bPNH4kfkkk/
[10:52] <tomreyn> afidegnum: okay, so you deleted one of the raid devices froming the md3 raid array which is /home, too. on purpose?
[10:52] <tomreyn> mdsm_: what does "uname -m" return for you?
[10:53] <mdsm_> tomreyn: x86_64
[10:53] <tomreyn> mdsm_: take a look at this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1768050
[10:54] <tomreyn> this may be the one you'Re running into
[10:54] <afidegnum> tomreyn: yes, i first unmounted, /home
[10:54] <afidegnum> stop the md3
[10:54] <afidegnum> and now cleared the 2 disks
[10:55] <tomreyn> afidegnum: okay, that's good (if you had no relevant data on /home, yet)
[10:55] <afidegnum> no
[10:56] <afidegnum> there is n and o
[10:57] <tomreyn> afidegnum: so now you have two choices really: you can either create one large partition on both sdc and sdd, and create asoftware raid across the two, or just do it on the raw devices, without partition table.
[10:57] <mdsm_> tomreyn: what do i do with this information? I am not very well versed with this whole linux thing
[10:57] <tomreyn> the latter will provide ou a little more usable storage, but just a little really.
[10:57] <afidegnum> using gdisk, what's the command for creating a new partition that will use the whole disk?
[10:57] <afidegnum> there is n and o
[10:59] <tomreyn> mdsm_: i'm not sure really since there seem to be no recommendations / workarounds listed on it. i'm surprised this bug has been unhandled for so long. but that's probably due to the proprietary nature of the nvidia drivers. you could also read up on https://askubuntu.com/questions/1035409/installing-nvidia-drivers-on-18-04 which does have a workaround.
[11:00] <tomreyn> afidegnum: i'm more familiar with gparted, but would assume 'n' will create a *ne* partition
[11:00] <tomreyn> *new*
[11:00] <mdsm_> tomreyn: How come it works on my other nvidia pc? And do you think using the opensource driver would work the same?
[11:00] <tomreyn> just guessing here, though
[11:01] <afidegnum> tomreyn: ok, i hope gparted is cli based?
[11:01] <afidegnum> no
[11:01] <afidegnum> not cli based
[11:01] <tomreyn> afidegnum: sure, it is. once you poiunted out you're working remotely i stopped recommending graphical tools.
[11:02] <mdsm_> tomreyn: it is also weird that i did not have this problem yesterday, it only appeared today o.o Eventhough i think i changed driver 2 days ago
[11:03] <tomreyn> mdsm_: nouveau will be notably slower. maybe your other pc has different nvidia hardware and thus needs a different nvidia driver which is not broken?
[11:03] <mdsm_> tomreyn: Maybe reinstalling linux is the easiest way to fix it? Can i uninstall this one some how? Or do i simply overwrite it
[11:04] <mdsm_> tomreyn: ah, makes sense, yeah it is a different card, the driver name is the same though
[11:04] <tomreyn> afidegnum: sorry, i meant to suggest "parted", which is the package name of GNU parted, which is also known as 'gparted'
[11:05] <tomreyn> afidegnum: there is also a graphical, gtk / gnome basede alternative to this which is now packaged as 'gparted' in ubuntu, you do not want this.
[11:05] <afidegnum> ok, let me look at parted
[11:07] <tomreyn> afidegnum: i think i can also guide you through gdisk if you prefer. let me know.
[11:09] <afidegnum> ok, reading a bit about it
[11:11] <tomreyn> mdsm: are you the same person as mdsm_ then?
[11:12] <afidegnum> Partition number (5-128, default 5):
[11:12] <afidegnum> tomreyn: is it ok?
[11:13] <tomreyn> afidegnum: please provide context
[11:14] <afidegnum> https://ghostbin.com/paste/z8dcz
[11:15] <tomreyn> afidegnum: have you decided on whether oyu want to span the new software raid (to form /home) across the raw disks sdc + sdd or across partitions on these storages, yet?
[11:16] <tomreyn> that's a question i brought up a while ago.
 afidegnum: so now you have two choices really: you can either create one large partition on both sdc and sdd, and create asoftware raid across the two, or just do it on the raw devices, without partition table.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:18] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you will only need to use parted / gdisk if you are planning to create a partition table and a partition on these devices and then use those as backing devices for the new software raid. if, however, you will create the new software raid on sdc and sdd directly, you wont need to create  partition tables nad partitions on them, and thus won't need to use parted or gdisk.
[11:18] <afidegnum> tomreyn: this is a big server with with SDD and HDD . md1, md2 are on SDD drive, and i want to map /home only on HDD where sdc and sdd are contained,
[11:19] <tomreyn> afidegnum: okay, this doesn't help with making this decision, however. both options refer to sdc and sdd only.
[11:20] <afidegnum> yes
[11:22] <afidegnum> tomreyn: this is what i have done, can you please check if it's correct ?
[11:22] <afidegnum> https://ghostbin.com/paste/s35dt
[11:23] <afidegnum> tomreyn: i think i need to change the partition number,
[11:23] <afidegnum> or what do you think ?
[11:24] <someone235> Hi, when running "sudo dkpg -i code_1.23.1-1525968403_amd64" I get "sudo: dkpg: command not found"
[11:24] <someone235> someone knows why can it happen?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> dpkg
[11:25] <tomreyn> afidegnum: this is the choices you have: https://ghostbin.com/paste/9pybc
[11:27] <tomreyn> afidegnum: the change you applied to sdc using gdisk looks fine to me if you're going to reuse the existing partition table and create md3 across partitions.
[11:27] <afidegnum> this is what i wanted
[11:27] <afidegnum> the last choice is ok for but i can stil opt for the previous choice before the last one
[11:29] <afidegnum> tomreyn: i will need to re-create the partition again,
[11:29] <afidegnum> or ?
[11:30] <tomreyn> afidegnum: so you prefer md3 to be sun across partitions, ok.
[11:30] <tomreyn> *sPun
[11:30] <tomreyn> afidegnum: i assume
[11:30] <afidegnum> yes
[11:30] <tomreyn> that's good to know
[11:31] <tomreyn> then remove all parititons on sdc and sdd, using your preferred tool. then make sure these have gpt partition tables (if not, create a new ones on each disk).
[11:31] <afidegnum> ok
[11:32] <tomreyn> then create a single partition on each, spannig the entire available space on each.
[11:32] <tomreyn> this should create sdc1 and sdd1
[11:32] <mdsm_> tomreyn: Hi again tomryn, i got a completely fresh install now. Is there any thing like apt update or upgrade or whatever that i should do before trying to install the driver to give this the best chance of working?
[11:32] <tomreyn> afidegnum: those partitions should be of type linux raid device, as oyu did previously
[11:33] <afidegnum> with only 1 partition number, right ?
[11:33] <tomreyn> afidegnum: sdc1 and sdd1
[11:33] <afidegnum> good
[11:34] <tomreyn> mdsm_: once all of this is done, assemble the new array with these raid devices: mdadm -A /dev/md3 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[11:34] <tomreyn> aqctually create, not assemble, sorry
[11:35] <mdsm_> tomreyn: was that message actually for me?
[11:35] <tomreyn> mdsm_: oops, sorry, no, this was for afidegnum
[11:36] <tomreyn> afidegnum: mdadm -C /dev/md3 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[11:36] <mdsm_> tomreyn: thought so :)
[11:36] <tomreyn> mdsm_: you should run "sudo apt update; sudo apt dist-upgrade" before you do anything else.
[11:36] <afidegnum> thx
[11:37] <tomreyn> afidegnum: and finally, create a file system on md3: mkfs.ext4 /dev/md3
[11:37] <mdsm_> tomreyn: ok, done those things, finished without any errors
[11:38] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you'd also need to modify /etc/fstab replacing the uuid of /home by its new one, which can be listed by running: lsblk
[11:39] <tomreyn> mdsm_: okay. unfortunately i do not know whether you will reintroiduce the issue when you now proceed with installing the propriietary drivers or not.
[11:39] <tomreyn> mdsm_: that's why i was suggesting to look for someoene who is more into nvidia than i am.
[11:39] <mdsm_> tomreyn: but i've set my self up for success now? So i will jsut try it?
[11:39] <tomreyn> mdsm_: i cannot guide you further from here.
[11:39] <mdsm_> tomreyn: ok thanks, wish me luck!
[11:40] <tomreyn> i wish you different hardware. ;)
[11:40] <mdsm_> haha xD
[11:44] <tpanmajia1> hel
[11:44] <tpanmajia1> help
[11:44] <tpanmajia1> i want to run systemd in a container
[11:45] <tpanmajia1> but in 18.04 there's no systemd-container
[11:45] <mdsm_> tomreyn: Ok, i installed it and restarted the pc. Can you help me check if it is working properly now? Or is that not possible
[11:45] <tpanmajia1> so what's the solution?
[11:45] <tomreyn> mdsm_: what is "it"?
[11:45]  * tpanmajia1 is confused
[11:45] <mdsm_> tomreyn: the nvidia driver, there is no apparent error this time. Can we check if it is working like it should some how?
[11:46] <tomreyn> !info systemd-container bionic
[11:46] <tomreyn> ^ tpanmajia1
[11:46] <tpanmajia1> thanks
[11:46]  * tpanmajia1 will check this
[11:46] <luxio> On 18.04 when I scroll on this page http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized, when I get to darker sections like where it says "$ git clone git://github.com/altercation/solarized.git", it turns pink only when scrolling
[11:46] <tpanmajia1> ^ ubottu tomreyn
[11:47] <tomreyn> mdsm_: sure. run: glxinfo -B 2>&1 | pastebinit
[11:47] <luxio> trying to figure out whether this is a software issue
[11:47] <luxio> this is a video I recorded of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpCN8GRnNsI&feature=youtu.be
[11:47] <BluesKaj> tpanmajia1, systemd-container should be in the package manager repos
[11:47] <BluesKaj> oops ...too late :-)
[11:48] <mdsm_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NCyZFMcry6/
[11:48] <tpanmajia1> ubottu: found the problem
[11:48] <tpanmajia1> BluesKaj: i forgot to add universe source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <tpanmajia1> BluesKaj: it's a live system
[11:49] <tpanmajia1> BluesKaj: i can manually add sources and i suppose there's no problem afterwards
[11:49] <BluesKaj> tpanmajia1, got it
[11:49] <tomreyn> mdsm_: the proprietary nvidia driver is now active. is apt happy, too? sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install; sudo apt dist-upgrade -V
[11:50] <BluesKaj> tpanmajia1,  universe should be in your sources.list by default
[11:50] <tpanmajia1> BluesKaj: it's a live system and during manual inspection universe and mutliverse sources are missing
[11:51] <tpanmajia1> BluesKaj: i think in installed systems those sources will be present though
[11:51] <mdsm_> tomreyn: apt 1.6.1 (amd64)
[11:51] <tomreyn> mdsm_: what are you meaning to tell me?
[11:51] <mdsm_> that's what i got out of it
[11:51] <mdsm_> without any error
[11:51] <mdsm_> that was the last command you gave me
[11:52] <tomreyn> mdsm_: no, it's what the command you ran last gave you. but that's nto the command i listed last.
[11:53] <tomreyn> nto -> not
[11:53] <BluesKaj> tpanmajia1, ahh, yes the defaults would be there on an installed system
[11:53] <mdsm_> tomreyn: this is what i did, in this order
[11:53] <mdsm_> tomreyn: mdsm_: the proprietary nvidia driver is now active. is apt happy, too? sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install; sudo apt dist-upgrade -V
[11:53] <tomreyn> mdsm_: what you seem to have run is: sudo apt -V
[11:54] <tomreyn> mdsm_: what you seem to have run is: sudo apt -v
[11:54] <mdsm_> i am writing "sudo apt dist-upgrade -v" i swear!
[11:54] <tomreyn> mdsm_: okay, this would result in the same output, but is also not the command i suggested to run. -v vs -V
[11:55] <mdsm_> oh it is a capital v i did not notice that sorry
[11:55] <tomreyn> np
[11:55] <mdsm_> that worked too, nothing to upgrade
[11:55] <tpanmajia1> BluesKaj, got it
[11:56] <tomreyn> mdsm_: and none of the other commands before that printed any warnings or erros either?
[11:56] <mdsm_> tomreyn: nope
[11:56] <tomreyn> mdsm_: okay, i guess you did a good job solving this by reinstalling then.
[11:56] <mdsm_> tomreyn: yeah.. "i" did :P Thanks for all the help :)
[11:57] <mdsm_> tomreyn: you did all the work xD
[11:57] <tomreyn> so reinstalling and upgrading packages first is a workaround for bug #1768050
[11:57] <tomreyn> mdsm_: no, no, you did ;)
[11:58] <ande_>    An Internet I'll see more than 1 billion instructions but noone hasn't help me.. Attention, question. How I can install the .sh script ? :)
[11:59] <ande_> Tomorrow I think then easy
[12:00] <afidegnum> tomreyn: one is successful, one is not maybe i forgot to run the comamand there, how do i unmount the raid there?
[12:00] <afidegnum> https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:01] <gabrielg> Hello everyone!!!! I'm desperate and I hope you can really help me! (It involves some work projects
[12:01] <gabrielg> I used to have on my mac a dual boot with ubuntu, but yesterday I've decided to delete the ubuntu partition cause I was running out of space. The problem is that I've deleted it with utility disk on mac, and now every time I try to reboot, it gives me only 2 options: grub and ubuntu. I just want to access some files from the mac partition because I
[12:01] <gabrielg>  don't have a backup of some of them (I know...), and they are for a work project. I really hope someone can be so amazing to help me figure out how to recover these files >.>
[12:01] <tomreyn> afidegnum: can you show: cat /proc/mdstat
[12:01] <gabrielg> As you can understand, I'm pretty desperate atm
[12:02] <gabrielg> Personalities :
[12:02] <gabrielg> unused devices: <none>
[12:02] <tomreyn> afidegnum: also: grep md3 /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[12:02] <tomreyn> gabrielg: i'm not (yet) talking to you there
[12:03] <ande_> In russia channel is silence :(
[12:03] <gabrielg> Ah ok, sorry! :)
[12:03] <ande_> An internet is don't help
[12:03] <Butterfly^> https://imgur.com/gallery/xT68kij  FBI warning
[12:04] <ande_> Google not help...
[12:04] <ande_> What Im gone do?
[12:04] <ioria> ande_, about what ?
[12:05] <afidegnum> tomreyn: https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca  but grep md3 return empty value
[12:05] <tomreyn> !ot | Butterfly^
[12:05] <ande_> ioria: How I can install the .sh script ? :)
[12:05] <tomreyn> gabrielg: so right now neither ubuntu nor os x can boot?
[12:05] <Butterfly^> tomreyn : what had to be said was said, we don't want half a million routers in a hacked botnet don't we?
[12:06] <tomreyn> Butterfly^: how does this relate to ubuntu support?
[12:06] <afidegnum> tomreyn: strangly, this is what i have now https://ghostbin.com/paste/wb8v4
[12:06] <ioria> ande_,  you don't 'install' a bash script; sometimes a bash script 'install' something .... what is  that ?
[12:07] <ioria> *s
[12:07] <ande_> гтшен 8
[12:07] <ande_> unity 8
[12:07] <ande_> ioria: unity 8
[12:07] <ioria> ande_,  you have to install unity 8 with a bash script ?
[12:08] <gabrielg> @tomreyn So, after I deleted trough utility disk, I had only grub. Luckily I had a usb with ubuntu on it, so I've just reinstalled ubuntu on the old 40gb partition, with the hope also to restore a boot loader that could show me the mac partition
[12:08] <ande_> ioria: Yap :) Hm.. I will have show you inet address when I read about this
[12:08] <ioria> ande_,  sure
[12:08] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you created a raid array md3 with a single raid device in it, sdc1
[12:08] <ioria> !info  unity8 xenial
[12:09] <ande_> A few second please
[12:09] <gabrielg> But nothing is working, neither the ubuntu boot loader or the mac one (pressing alt). I've also tried with mounting the mac hd (/dev/sda2), but it gives me an error
[12:10] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you just need to add sdd1 to the existing raid array md3 now.
[12:10] <gabrielg> I'm really desperate, in the end I just want to recover some files from that partition. I don't really care about restoring mac
[12:10] <afidegnum> ok, i stopped and removed it
[12:10] <tomreyn> afidegnum: no need to, but this works, too
[12:10] <afidegnum> i m reassigning a new mdadm
[12:10] <cfhowlett> gabrielg, https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/225520/remove-ubuntu-and-grow-mac-partition
[12:11] <afidegnum> which wasn't configured earlier,
[12:11] <tomreyn> afidegnum: i do not know what you mean by "i m reassigning a new mdadm which wasn't configured earlier,".
[12:12] <cfhowlett> also gabrielg I'm sure you backed up to Time Machine before you installed ubuntu.  restore from there will get you sorted.
[12:12] <tomreyn> afidegnum: mdadm is a software to manage software raid arrays on linux.
[12:12] <ioria> ande_,  this one ? https://github.com/ubports/unity8-desktop-install-tools
[12:12] <afidegnum> i hope there wont' be a problem later when using all the paritions?
[12:12] <ioria> ande_,  if yes, it's not supportedhere
[12:12] <afidegnum> of sdc and sdd
[12:13] <onlyabyte> .
[12:13] <afidegnum> tomreyn: for the previous question, i mean assigning new raid
[12:13] <gabrielg> @cfhowlett I think that could be a solution! It seems it has my same problem! Gonna try right now, thanks!
[12:13] <cfhowlett> best of luck, gabrielg
[12:13] <digi_quake> Hi!! I have installed lubuntu inside virtual box and I'm trying to mount an external hdd but I can't seem to... Any help is highly appreciated.
[12:13] <ande_> ioria: http://compizomania.blogspot.com/2018/05/unity-8.html#more
[12:14] <pragomer> what to install if I get this error message under ubuntu 18.04: https://snag.gy/F7Prqd.jpg
[12:14] <tomreyn> afidegnum: so you're now creating a new raid array, probably across sdc1 and sdd1, as planned originally?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> pragomer, what media are you attempting to play?
[12:15] <ioria> ande_,  well,my russian is a bit rusty atm, if that does not work try this : https://github.com/ubports/unity8-desktop-install-tools
[12:16] <afidegnum> tomreyn: exactly
[12:16] <tomreyn> afidegnum: okay, hope it'll work for you this time.
[12:16] <tomreyn> be sure to always verify your changes applied properly before you do the next one.
[12:17] <tomreyn> digi_quake: you mean a real, physical, toughable, external hdd?
[12:17] <tomreyn> *touchable
[12:18] <afidegnum> tomreyn: this is what popped up, (see below)  https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:18] <digi_quake> tomreyn yes
[12:18] <digi_quake> i just connected to my machine
[12:18] <afidegnum> should i reboot first, ?
[12:19] <ortwin> Hello dudes :)
[12:19] <ortwin> I´m Ortwin from Germany :)
[12:19] <grizato> hello ortwin
[12:19] <digi_quake> tomreyn i can connect to virtual hard disk (sharing) using "vboxsf" but don't have any idea on how to mount external drive
[12:20] <digi_quake> I have to transfer almost 50 gb of data and first mounting the network share and then copying the files to it and then from the host machine to external hard drive is tedious
[12:21] <digi_quake> Is it possible to do it directly??
[12:21] <ortwin> Hellooo :) I have a little problem :D I can a little bit English, however my grammar and my pronunciation are very terrible sometimes :D If you don´t understand a sentence then make a quest or so haha xD
[12:21] <tomreyn> digi_quake: you'll need to do usb device passthrough then. this is really a #vbox question. but it's fortunately rather simple so here's the steps: unomount any file systems from the external disk you have currentl ymounted on your main operating system. then turn to virtualbox window of the ubuntu VM, select 'machine', then 'settings' from the menu and click on 'USB'. right of the  "usb device filters" text box, click on the usb icon withthe
[12:21] <tomreyn> plus (+) character on it and select your external usb storage.
[12:21] <cfhowlett> ortwin, this is ubuntu support.  ask your ubuntu question
[12:21] <digi_quake> tomreyn ok then...
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !de | ortwin
[12:22] <ortwin> Are there a Soundcloudapp?
[12:22] <tomreyn> digi_quake: to do this with better performance than usb1.1 would provide, you'll need to install the proprietary virtualbox extensions package for newer usb virtualization support.
[12:23] <digi_quake> tomreyn ok and then..
[12:23] <tomreyn> afidegnum: does "cat /proc/mdstat" confirm this?
[12:24] <digi_quake> tomreyn which usb icon should i select. The one with the circle or a + sign??
[12:24] <afidegnum> tomreyn: no, https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:24] <tomreyn> afidegnum: then just ignore the warning and continue.
[12:25] <afidegnum> ok
[12:26] <tomreyn> afidegnum: mdadm checks the data stored on the raid devices for existing data indicating that they belong(ed?) to some raid array, to prevent user errors.
[12:26] <afidegnum> ah, ok, understood
[12:26] <tomreyn> digi_quake: the one with the plus (+) character on it, as i said ;)
[12:27] <digi_quake> tomreyn ok thanks and then select my hdd from the list??
[12:27] <tomreyn> digi_quake: the external usb hdd, yes
[12:27] <digi_quake> tomreyn thanks... After that... Do i need to write any mount commands in the terminal??
[12:28] <digi_quake> or will it detect automatically?
[12:28] <mdsm_> how do i start my openssh-server? openssh-server does not work
[12:30] <tomreyn> digi_quake: thqat depends on how your lubuntu is configured. what you just did had the same effect to the ubuntu system as attaching the usb disk to an uubuntu installation running on bare metal would have had. lubuntu may automatically mount file systmes found on it or not, i'm not familiar enough with lubuntu to tell whetehr it will.
[12:30] <tomreyn> mdsm_: sudo apt install openssh-server && sudo service sshd start
[12:30] <tomreyn> mdsm_: sudo apt install openssh-server && sudo service ssh start
[12:31] <tomreyn> ^ the latter is correct
[12:31] <mdsm_> ah yeah, the sudo service ssh start did it! thanks a lot :)
[12:31] <tomreyn> digi_quake: run "lsblk" on the temrinal of the ubuntu vm to get a better idea of how it sees the usb disk now.
[12:31] <digi_quake> ok
[12:32] <tomreyn> afidegnum: how is your raid coming?
[12:32] <afidegnum> tomreyn: can you please check if it's correct ? https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:33] <digi_quake> tomreyn only sda1 part /
[12:33] <afidegnum> should it be ARRAY /dev/md/3  or ARRAY /dev/md3  so as the rest?
[12:33] <digi_quake> is therew
[12:33] <digi_quake> thre*
[12:34] <tomreyn> afidegnum: your choice, /dev/md/n is the newer presentation
[12:35] <afidegnum> tomreyn: ah, ok, i have obtained it from mdadm --scan
[12:36] <tomreyn> afidegnum: if, in /etc/fstab, you'll use the device UUID to refer to the third md you now created, then the actual device naming doesn't matter.
[12:36] <afidegnum> mdadm --examine --scan
[12:36] <afidegnum> this is my curent fstab
[12:37] <afidegnum> https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:38] <afidegnum> it seems i have manually modified it recently
[12:38] <afidegnum> the fstab
[12:38] <afidegnum> to match md(n)
[12:38] <afidegnum> should i leave it like that?
[12:42] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you should use UUIDs to indicate devices to be mounted. md3 is UUID=6c5f33fe:87e84131:33d6bad4:e1b53058
[12:43] <tomreyn> afidegnum: actually please verify the UUID against lsblk, the one i provided may be incorrect / incorrectly formatted.
[12:43] <afidegnum> ok,
[12:43] <afidegnum> tomreyn: you mean in fstab ?
[12:45] <afidegnum> from mdadm.conf here is the current uuid for md3 ARRAY /dev/md/3  metadata=1.2 UUID=6c5f33fe:87e84131:33d6bad4:e1b53058 name=gsamx:3
[12:45] <tomreyn> afidegnum: let me correctly rephrase this: run "blkid", it lists the UUIDs of all devices you need to mount. copy them, and place them in the 'file system' column of /etc/fstab , replacing all those "/dev/..." you have there now.
[12:46] <afidegnum> ah, ok, thanks a million
[12:46] <huntresslove> hi, if i wanna portforward for vsftpd is it then my IPV4 address wich i grap whit ifconfig or...?
[12:47] <afidegnum> tomreyn: wow! they are many https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:47] <tomreyn> afidegnum: mdadm raid device UUIDs are not to be mixed up (i had made this mistake here initially) with file system UUIDs. lsblk lists file system UUIDs, and those ar eneeded to refer to them in /etc/fstab
[12:48] <afidegnum> ok
[12:48] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you just need to handle the md* ones
[12:49] <afidegnum> yes
[12:49] <afidegnum> and UUIDs should comes without quotes right?
[12:50] <tomreyn> huntresslove: where does vsftpd run, and where will you do the port forwarding?
[12:50] <tomreyn> afidegnum: that's correct. i'm not actually sure whether or not they also work if placed there with quotes.
[12:51] <tomreyn> afidegnum: i've only seen utilities manipulating /etc/fstab putting UUIDs without quotes in there, so i know this *does* work.
[12:52] <afidegnum> ok, that's what i have seen standardly
[12:54] <afidegnum> tomreyn: pls look into it once more, https://ghostbin.com/paste/g6pca
[12:55] <huntresslove> tomreyn: it runs a on a server machine in canada at my friends house, im in charge of the server, trying to setup vsftpd, and its running cant connect tho so logically it must be a portforward problem.
[12:56] <huntresslove> and portforwarding in her router
[12:57] <Zaplo> hi. is it possible to make NetworkManager not start wpa_supplicant process, thus disabling wireless (since there is only cable connection)?
[12:57] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you should probably have 'pass' 1 for /, pass 2 for /boot, but the UUIDs and general formatting look fine.
[12:58] <afidegnum> ok, rebooting
[12:58] <afidegnum> let's see
[12:59] <tomreyn> afidegnum: waitr
[13:00] <tomreyn> afidegnum: you need to update-initramfs and should grub-install
[13:00] <tomreyn> and need to update-grub
[13:02] <tomreyn> huntresslove: okay, then you need to configure her router to port forward to port 21 (default ftpd port, unless you modified it) on the local IP address of the server, which indeed oyu can determine with ipconfig (if available) or ip a
[13:02] <raidghost> Trying to clone a libvirt vm. But how do i FORCE it to not make the file name -Clone ?
[13:03] <tomreyn> huntresslove: whoops, typo: ipconfig -> ifconfig
[13:03] <raidghost>  Want to specify the imagefile myself.
[13:04] <tomreyn> raidghost: you can just rename the image file afterwards and update the xml.
[13:04] <tomreyn> i don't knwo whether it can be done in a single step, though, when initiating the cloning process
[13:04] <afidegnum> there was a mess, i m restarting from scratch
[13:05] <afidegnum> **connection refused
[13:05] <afidegnum> i don't have much data in though
[13:05] <tomreyn> afidegnum: well you should not just have rebooted at that point, see above.
[13:15]  * tomreyn afk
[13:22] <Exterminador> hello guys.. I'm trying to use LVM for the 1st time. but when i do "pvcreate /dev/vda" i got  Device /dev/vda excluded by a filter and if i do "pvcreate /dev/vda1" i got  Can't open /dev/vda1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem? here's the "fdisk -l" output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/262HqDRD44/ -- any ideas?
[13:23] <Exterminador> the second disk is /dev/vdb
[13:25] <Exterminador> also, "df -h" output if it's worth of anything https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X8kYkfhWpn/
[13:34] <afidegnum> tomreyn: i have this issue, which seems to be the cause of the previous lockout,
[13:34] <afidegnum> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[13:38] <indica2018> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS does not allow to create DSL connection. running sudo pppoeconf solves the issue but is very unreliable. Sometimes it do not starts at boot and plog returns no response
[13:39] <indica2018> Any workaround ? Amazed to see that Ubuntu development team has left out the very necessary DSL connection option from 18.04 LTS
[13:40] <afidegnum> sorry i was disc
[13:40] <afidegnum> tomreyn: you there?
[13:40] <Exterminador> i guess they're kinda busy IRL.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[13:40] <jpleau> indica2018: what have you tried? There are solutions available on askubuntu.com for 17.10 did you try those?
[13:41] <indica2018> yes I tried all but only pppoeconf works. That too not at all unreliable works 50 % times
[13:42] <indica2018> sorry very unreliable works 50% times
[13:42] <indica2018> I wonder why they have abandoned the DSL option ????
[13:44] <Guest57044> create a DLS connection
[13:44] <Guest57044> what is a DSL connection ?
[13:44] <jpleau> (it's outdated technology :) )
[13:45] <indica2018> Also if I use pppoeconf I loose the wired connection . So If I carry my machine to a place that have a modem in pppoe mode I am unable to connect anymore.
[13:45] <Guest57044> what ?
[13:45] <indica2018> @jpleau: Bullshit
[13:45] <Guest57044> indica2018: please don't swear
[13:46] <cfhowlett> family friendly channel!
[13:47] <indica2018> @jpleau: Ubuntu was meant to work for African countries too. I doubt how many people has FTTH in Africa.
[13:47] <afidegnum> i m having this error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[13:47] <Guest57044> indica2018: can we step back and try to actually understand you're problem a bit more please
[13:48] <Guest57044> afidegnum: when are you having that problem, what are you doing
[13:48] <afidegnum> i have created few raid arrays, trying to prepare the bootloader etc..
[13:48] <afidegnum> and when running this command update-grub
[13:48] <Guest57044> afidegnum: you need to explain what you are actually doing
[13:49] <afidegnum> i have the above error
[13:49] <Guest57044> right, but why are you doing this, are you doing it from live media or from an existing install
[13:49] <Guest57044> you need to give information and details
[13:50] <indica2018> @Guest57044:  DSL is a bit old technology and connects internet thru normal telephone wire. One can make a telephone call while surfing the internet
[13:50] <afidegnum> well, using hetzner dedi server,
[13:50] <Guest57044> indica2018: I'm aware of what DSL actually is, but what is a DSL connection
[13:50] <afidegnum> i have 2 raid disks,
[13:50] <afidegnum> 1 ssd and 1 hdd
[13:50] <afidegnum> i wanted to mount the hdd on /home
[13:51] <Guest57044> afidegnum: is this centos or ubuntu ?
[13:51] <afidegnum> while preparing the array, i come accross this error
[13:51] <afidegnum> ubuntu
[13:51] <mdsm> I am trying to get conky to work, but it says "cannot open display" on unbuntu latest
[13:51] <Guest57044> afidegnum: why are you touching grub to mount something on /home
[13:51] <Guest57044> afidegnum: /home is nothing to do with the boot loader
[13:52] <indica2018> There was a option in 16.04 LTS that would allow you to save the user-id and password provided by your ISP/telco required for DSL.
[13:52] <Guest57044> indica2018: so you're talking about gnome-network-manager applet creating a connection ?
[13:52] <indica2018> That option is not there anymore in 16.04 LTS
[13:53] <indica2018> Probabaly so.
[13:53] <Guest57044> indica2018: ok, so you're actual question is "what is the correct way to connect to me DSL provider with gnome-network-manager in ubuntu 18.04" ?
[13:53] <indica2018> that option is not anymore in 18.04 LTS
[13:53] <indica2018> Ok thanks for that.
[13:54] <Guest57044> indica2018: so what are the optins gnome-network-manager provides for you in 18.04 ?
[13:55] <indica2018> As I have used pppoeconf. I do not have any options of a fresh install anymore.
[13:55] <indica2018> However it only has Wired and VPN
[13:56] <Guest57044> you do not have any options of fresh install ?
[13:57] <indica2018> Do you want me too fresh install ????
[13:57] <Guest57044> no
[13:57] <indica2018> then ?
[13:57] <Guest57044> I'm asking you what you mean by you don't have the options of a fresh install
[13:57] <indica2018> Ohh!!!
[13:58] <Guest57044> indica2018: so from quickly reading the updates to gnome-network-manager README it seems that DSL is treated as a wired connection now
[13:59] <Guest57044> as the way gnome-network-manager seems to be setup now is by the connection "interface" rather than the connection type
[14:02] <DeathTickle> I noticed that gitlab is not available anymore in the ubuntu repository for 18.04? any reason it isnt included, since it was included in 16.04
[14:03] <joel135> the scrollbars in emacs look glitchy in ubuntu (18.04, virtualbox guest)
[14:14] <plasmoduck> https://jurassicsystems.com/
[14:18] <Guest57044> plasmoduck: ?
[14:19] <plasmoduck> check it
[14:19] <Guest57044> no
[14:19] <Guest57044> please dno't spam
[14:19] <Guest57044> don't
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Guest57044, stop that
[14:19] <Guest57044> cfhowlett: ?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> sorry .... plasmaduck
[14:19] <Guest57044> not a problem
[14:20] <plasmoduck> Guest57044, it's not spam, it's epic nostalgia.
[14:20] <Guest57044> it's nothing to do with this channe
[14:20] <Guest57044> channel
[14:20] <plasmoduck> Perhaps you're too young to understand the value of it
[14:20] <plasmoduck> it's a unix system, i know this
[14:20] <Guest57044> no, I'm old enough to understand it's nothing to do with this channel, so please don't post it
[14:22] <plasmoduck> it wasn't for you anyways
[14:22] <plasmoduck> I was supposed to send it to someone else and clicked the wrong channel. my bad.
[14:22] <Guest57044> accidents happen
[14:27] <computamike> Hi - just installing ubuntu 18.04 in virtual box - and I'm stuggling with configuring it to allow me to ssh into it from the host (macbook).
[14:28] <computamike> anyone know how to set up static IP on 18.04
[14:28] <Guest57044> computamike: use network manager and just set a static IP
[14:28] <Guest57044> not sure why a static IP would make it easier though
[14:29] <WeFour> Is there a way to get the list of packages that automatically install snap cores on your system?
[14:30] <lapaga> snap list
[14:30] <afidegnum> see, i m locked out again, i can't have access to my server
[14:30] <computamike> Guest57044: well it's actually an ubuntu server i'm setting up (attempting to set up).  I'm setting up 2 network cards.  A NAT interface - that allows me to connect to the internet from the machine, and a host only card - which should allow me to access the machine locally (from the host)
[14:30] <ElementalW> Can someone please tell me how I can make an app run with sudo privileges in Ubuntu 18 using the fav dock area by clicking on the program icon?
[14:31] <WeFour> snap list doesn't list one core we have on the system.
[14:31] <Guest57044> computamike: just set a static ip with network manager then
[14:33] <ElementalW> I want to be able to do it without typing the root password too
[14:37] <ElementalW> :/
[14:37] <WeFour> lapaga: snap list doesn't list one core we have on the system.
[14:42] <weFour_> Is there a way to find a list of packages that automatically install snaps and snap cores on your system?
[14:42] <computamike> Guest57044: I've just managed to install a minimal mate desktop (well it's installing now) - so that should make it easier - i can run network manager there right?
[14:42] <Guest57044> computamike: totally
[14:42] <Guest57044> you can run network manager without a desktop though too
[14:42] <ortwin> i have diarrhoe
[14:43] <computamike> Guest57044: I'll check out the man page for it - I had assumed that network manager was like the graphical tool
[14:43] <Guest57044> there is a gui
[14:43] <Guest57044> there is also a command line interface
[14:44] <tomreyn> !ot | ortwin
[14:44] <computamike> Guest57044: Right - cool..  I'll check that out - it should make spinning up a server instance quicker in the future - thanks for the help
[14:44] <ortwin> what is a !ot?
[14:44] <computamike> :)
[14:44] <Guest57044> ortwin: it means your comments are offtopic in this channel, please don't make them
[14:44] <Guest57044> the channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[14:45] <ortwin> ich versteh kein wort :D
[14:45] <tomreyn> !de | ortwin
[14:45] <ortwin> !de
[14:45] <ortwin> cool :)
[14:45] <ortwin> und was geht hier so?  :)
[14:46] <Guest57044> ortwin: you do speak English
[14:46] <tomreyn> ortwin: support in english, only.
[14:46] <Guest57044> so stop messing around pleae
[14:46] <ortwin> ok i speak english now :D
[14:48] <weFour_> Hilfe bitte?
[14:49] <tomreyn> !de | weFour_
[14:50] <weFour_> dokh
[14:50] <weFour_> please help?
[14:50] <tomreyn> !details | weFour_
[14:56] <weFour_> Yes indeeed. We have this hidden snap core on the system that doesn't show on snap list, but it's there, we swears it. We're wondering how it got there in the first place, perhaps by somthing we installed, and then removed, like tor, or does it belong to something else? We knows it's core, and about 100 megabyte in size.
[14:57] <ElementalW> How can I make an app so that it will only be ran as sudo no matter what?
[14:57] <Guest57044> how do you know ou have a hidden snap
[14:57] <Guest57044> ElementalW: you need a specific sudo rule for that command
[14:57] <Guest57044> ElementalW: you can't make it "force" run as root
[14:57] <weFour_> Guest57044: it doesn't show on the list!
[14:57] <Guest57044> weFour_: right, so how do you know you have a hidden snap
[14:58] <ElementalW> Guest57044: How do I make that sudo rule?
[14:58] <Guest57044> ElementalW: what EXACTLY are you trying to do
[14:59] <ElementalW> Trying to run dolphin as sudo, at all times, anytime it's clicked on, called upon in term, or whatever
[14:59] <Guest57044> why would you run dophin as root ?
[14:59] <ElementalW> because I want to
[14:59] <Guest57044> why ?
[14:59] <ElementalW> their bluetooth passthrough isn't working right and sudo solves it. been dicking with it for the past day, and I'm over it.
[14:59] <Guest57044> what value does it give
[15:00] <Guest57044> you're taking about the dolphin browser right ?
[15:00] <Guest57044> or something else
[15:00] <ElementalW> no dolphin emulator
[15:00] <weFour_> Good frage, i mean question. we don't. we assumed since it doesn't show on the snap list, it must be hidden from system commands, and wouldn't remove either.
[15:00] <Guest57044> ahhh
[15:00] <Guest57044> ElementalW: so what is the problm you're having running it as root
[15:01] <Guest57044> weFour_: how do you know it's even a snap
[15:01] <ElementalW> I've gotten it to run as root without a password by editing the sudoers file, now I just need it to always run as root whether clicked or typed to run
[15:01] <Guest57044> you won't do that
[15:01] <Guest57044> you can set the permissions to be owned / executed by root
[15:02] <Guest57044> so you have to be root
[15:02] <Guest57044> but you'd need to use policy kit to trigger a forced elevation to root
[15:02] <ElementalW> ooo. Whats the command to do that?
[15:02] <Guest57044> command to do what
[15:02] <weFour_> Guest57044: it is in the same directory? are my intentions clear?
[15:02] <ElementalW> set the permissions to be owned/executed by root
[15:02] <Guest57044> weFour_: no
[15:02] <Guest57044> chown root:root $file
[15:03] <Guest57044> chmod 750 $file
[15:03] <Guest57044> or 754
[15:03] <Guest57044> whatever suits your needs best
[15:04] <weFour_> Guest57044: mais oui?
[15:04] <ElementalW> errr that won't help because I can't get kodi to put "sudo" in front of the dolphin-emu command
[15:05] <Guest57044> weFour_: what ?
[15:05] <Guest57044> ElementalW: yes ?
[15:05] <ElementalW> I need to run it as root, but without using sudo before the command to run it
[15:05] <Guest57044> ElementalW: how are you trying to get kodi to launch it (where are you configuring it)
[15:05] <ElementalW> I'm using 'advanced emulator launcher'
[15:06] <Guest57044> does that not give you the command line it runs ?
[15:06] <ElementalW> no :(
[15:07] <ElementalW> maybe theres a script file I can write and inside it, it will have ./sudo /usr/games/dolphin-emu? But how do I pass variables?
[15:07] <Guest57044> ElementalW: so in my view you'll do better to talk to the kodi team to understand IF and how you can edit the command in the app, rather than messing with policy kit
[15:08] <ElementalW> meh kodi team sucksssss.
[15:08] <ElementalW> they're all dicks
[15:08] <Guest57044> no it doesn't
[15:08] <Guest57044> and please don't swear
[15:08] <ElementalW> Just saying never had a positive conversation with any of them even once
[15:08] <Guest57044> they are actually really helpful and respond to feature requests
[15:08] <Guest57044> maybe your the problem
[15:10] <weFour_> We probably have indecent intentions asking these difficult questions, anyways, we probably like to know if it is safe to remove the bastards, since they didn;t ask us permission to install themselves.
[15:11] <Guest57044> weFour_: you're not asking a difficult question
[15:11] <Guest57044> and please don't swear
[15:11] <Guest57044> weFour_: the questions I'm asking you is "how do you know you have a hidden snap" - what is the symptom that causes this
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !ot
[15:13] <lanoxx> how can I install a package that I am compiling from sources obtained via apt source?
[15:13] <Guest57044> you need to build a package
[15:13] <Guest57044> I strongly advise you not to build it from source
[15:14] <lanoxx> Guest57044, I am trying to fix a bug, so I need to compile from source
[15:14] <ElementalW> Can you tell me how to pass a variable thru a file? If I type "/usr/games/myfile /b blah.rom" and inside that file is "sudo /usr/games/dolphin-emu" What do I put after "dolphin-emu" to pass /b blah.rom?
[15:15] <Guest57044> ElementalW: a script is just the same as the command line
[15:15] <weFour_> Bastard is not a curse doctor, it's illigitimate, and we knows wat we nose, you dont want to answer, fine, why dont yu say so.
[15:15] <Guest57044> lanoxx: so just run it then, don't install it
[15:15] <ElementalW> so I don't need to put anything after "dolphin-emu" in the script?
[15:16] <Guest57044> ElementalW: you put whatever arguments you want
[15:16] <lanoxx> Guest57044, its a library that builds an so file, so thats not so easy
[15:16] <ElementalW> I don't think you get what I'm saying
[15:17] <Guest57044> lanoxx: yes it is, something will reference that library, so either link it against it, or copy the file in place
[15:18] <ElementalW> Yea it's not passing variables
[15:18] <Guest57044> it will
[15:19] <Guest57044> a script is just the command line executed for you
[15:19] <Guest57044> so if you can pass it on the command line, you can pass it on the script in exactly the same way
[15:19] <ElementalW> I just typed "myscript /b my.rom" and it just opens dolphin, and not the rom. inside the script is "sudo dolphin-emu"
[15:20] <lanoxx> Guest57044, I tried to copy the libary to /usr/lib but then my program is crashing when it loads the library, it must have something todo with how I compiled the program since it also happens when I just compile the source without adding my changes
[15:20] <ElementalW> I'm figuring I'd need to put inside the script something like "sudo dolphin-emu %var"\
[15:20] <Guest57044> ElementalW: no you put the options in the script
[15:20] <ElementalW> the game will be different depending on the menu clicked...
[15:20] <lanoxx> Guest57044, I just found: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b, I compiled a binary package, installed that, now its working with my changes
[15:20] <Guest57044> ElementalW: if you want to make the script accept input variables you use $1, $2, $3 etc
[15:21] <Guest57044> lanoxx: I suspect you're build options where wrong/incompatible
[15:22] <ducasse> ElementalW: 'sudo dolphin-emu $@'
[15:22] <lanoxx> Guest57044, I think so, I find it difficult to restore the build options that are used by the Ubuntu build server, I tried extracting them from the build log and call ./configure with the same option but it seems I still missed something
[15:22] <ElementalW> Thanks :)
[15:23] <ducasse> ElementalW: and those aren't variables you're passing, they're arguments ;)
[15:25] <WeFour> what's up folks?
[15:27] <WeFour> can anybody answer questions on snaps?
[15:28] <Guest57044> yes
[15:29] <WeFour> guest57044: is it safe to remove them?
[15:29] <Guest57044> depends
[15:30] <WeFour> on waht?
[15:30] <Guest57044> on which snaps and if you're using software that depends on them
[15:31] <Emcy> steam not working on bionic?
[15:31] <WeFour> how do i know what software is using them?
[15:31] <Guest57044> not seen any bugs to suggest steam is not working on 18.04
[15:32] <Guest57044> WeFour: what's the real problem here ?
[15:32] <WeFour> as stated!
[15:32] <Guest57044> no, you keep stating a hidden snap
[15:32] <Guest57044> I'm asking you why you think there is a hidden snap
[15:32] <Guest57044> you've been unable to explain why you think there is a hidden snap
[15:33] <Guest57044> so - lets cut to the chase, what's the actual "problem" not what you think is happening
[15:33] <tgm4883> Emcy: working fine here. Are you getting errors
[15:35] <BasedReginald> Hello all, have questions about rsync. I have the following set up in cron: "rsync -avz --del -e "ssh -i ~/.ssh/user-key -pXXXXX -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no" /etc/nginx/ user@IPv4ADDRESS:/etc/nginx/
[15:35] <BasedReginald> However the same just replacing /etc/nginx/ in both cases with /var/www/ does not work. The first recurses thru all the subdirectories and copies all the ocnfig files but the 2nd doesn't. Inside the /var/www/ I have two folder structures. 1 is just /html/ which copies over, 2nd is /mydomain.tld/html/ which is not copied to any remote servers
[15:36] <BasedReginald> Is there an rsync option I'm missing? Bit confused also a noob, your help appreciated. Thanks
[15:36] <WeFour> So you're suggesting we should leave them be?
[15:36] <Guest57044> WeFour: no, I'm asking you why you think there is a hidden snap on your system
[15:39] <WeFour> all snaps on snap directory show on the snap list, except a big large ...ing one!
[15:40] <Guest57044> WeFour: can you give me an real directory listing in a pastebin to understand what you are referencing
[15:40] <Emcy> tgm4883 how did oyu install it
[15:41] <tgm4883> Emcy: Probably just 'apt install steam'. I can look through my logs if you want
[15:41] <tgm4883> Emcy: yea, 'apt install steam'
[15:43] <zutat> hello. how to get graphics and display information like DPI and used driver under 18.04?
[15:45] <thewaspsknees> I think you can use $xrdb -query | grep dpi
[15:46] <fl00fykittry> anyone know how to get applications dropdown to the bottom taskbar in gnome using just gsettings?
[15:46] <zutat> thewaspsknees: ok. that gave me some value for DPI
[15:47] <WeFour> you're working me too hard. Can't we assume that the problem is as was stated? recently we tried installing tor browser, it didn't work. so we removed it. it left a snap called tor-mkg... on the system. apt get auto remove did not remove it. my guess is that this 98 mega bytes core snap that does not show on snap list is theirs. but we may be wrong.
[15:47] <Guest57044> WeFour: asking you to provide information is not working hard
[15:47] <Guest57044> I'm asking for factual information, if you can't give it, you can't get help
[15:47] <zutat> fl00fykittry: no, but i think you can do that with gnome tweak util
[15:48] <fl00fykittry> thats what i was afraid of
[15:49] <thewaspsknees> zutat: maybe this could help https://askubuntu.com/questions/5417/how-to-get-the-gpu-info
[15:49] <zutat> fl00fykittry: can't install additional packages? :)
[15:52] <WeFour> company1@me-desktop:~$ dir /snap
[15:52] <WeFour> bin  core  README  tor-mkg20001
[15:52] <WeFour> company1@me-desktop:~$
[15:54] <Guest57044> WeFour: so what is out of place there ?
[15:54] <WeFour> Name          Version      Rev   Tracking  Developer  Notes
[15:54] <WeFour> core          16-2.32.8    4650  stable    canonical  core
[15:54] <WeFour> tor-mkg20001  tor-<IP_ADDRESS>  13    stable    mkg20001   -
[15:55] <Guest57044> use a pastebin please
[15:56] <WeFour> how do we do that? we read somewhere how to do it but we seem to have forgotten.
[15:57] <Guest57044> !pastebin | WeFour
[15:59] <WeFour> So based on what we have provided thus far, you can not answer the question?
[15:59] <tomreyn> WeFour: what is your (ubuntu support) question? and how many are you?
[15:59] <blackflow> well four, duh.
[16:00] <Guest57044> WeFour: you've not shown me anything that shows a problem
[16:01] <tomreyn> if the worry is about the existence of the 'core' snap, that's what it says, the snap core. the pierce of software that enables the snap package management.
[16:01] <tomreyn> *piece
[16:02] <Guest57044> but that's not "hidden"
[16:02] <Guest57044> that's listed in the snap list
[16:02] <Guest57044> so doesn't fit in with this "hidden snap" complaint
[16:02] <lapaga> WeFour, dumb question did you use sudo snap remove packagename?
[16:02] <WeFour> We used to be three but now we're four. sys monitor shows two cores. a snap/core/4571
[16:02] <WeFour> company1@me-desktop:~$ dir /snap/core
[16:02] <WeFour> 4571  4650  current
[16:03] <tgm4883> WeFour: yes, that's called an update
[16:05] <Guest57044> you're also changing the output from what you first pasted
[16:06] <WeFour> Hehehe. So are we dumb, are we ligit?
[16:07] <WeFour> And do we need that 4571?
[16:08] <blackflow> WeFour: why are y'all listing the dir? just use snap list and snap install|remove. as superuser. tried that?
[16:10] <tgm4883> WeFour: What is your end goal here?
[16:11] <WeFour> So many answeres, so confusing. one at a time please. the problem was "is it safe to remove the 4571?" Because, shoot, admittedly we may sound very nerdy, but we're dumb as a doornail!
[16:11] <solbergen> Hi guys, i'm struggling with a ubuntu network problem... I've searched around the net and i cannot for the life of me figure out why i cannot get this to work..
[16:11] <tgm4883> WeFour: So the correct answer is, Don't try to manage the directory directly
[16:12] <compdoc> ^ good idea
[16:13] <WeFour> So we type sudo snap remove core 4571?
[16:13] <tgm4883> WeFour: no. You want to keep that
[16:13] <solbergen> I am trying to have a onboard computer on a UAV system, the computer has a pci express wifi-board, which is connected to a network, and i would like that network to be shared to a second computer in a "transparent way", e.g. being able to be connected from "the ground" (A third computer, which is connected to the wifi network)
[16:13] <tgm4883> WeFour: let snap clean up after itself. It keeps 1 old version in case theres an issues with the update
[16:13] <solbergen> Ideally all the computers should be on the same network/subnet, and use fixed ip settings
[16:14] <blackflow> WeFour: nothing confusing about it. snaps are separate to apt packages. you don't manage then with apt (as you suggested about apt autoremove earlier). you use the "snap" tool. there's a manpage for more help on how to use it. you use `snap list` to list snaps, don't touch the dir manually.
[16:14] <blackflow> *them
[16:15] <zutat> solbergen: you want bridging
[16:16] <WeFour> ok folks. dunke shone. but what about the tor snap, do we keep that as well?
[16:16] <Guest57044> do YOU want to keep it
[16:17] <WeFour> Mais no mon ami!
[16:17] <matjam> solbergen: you need to enable ip forwarding in the kernel and create a bridging interface. There's a bunch of documentation on the internet, let us know if you have any problems getting it to work.
[16:17] <tgm4883> WeFour: you're working us too hard here. Can you just answer the questions?
[16:18] <blackflow> they just said no, duh. :)
[16:19] <WeFour> Since we have uninstalled the tor package, no my friend mr wisard, we don't want to keep it.
[16:19] <tgm4883> WeFour: then remove it with the snap command
[16:20] <WeFour> and i apologize fur werking yu soo hard. and thank you again.
[16:20] <blackflow> WeFour: y'all slipped a "my" there. need to fix that.
[16:20] <tuxiano> Hi, my 4k-screen has only four native resolutions: 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 3840x2160. In some games I would like to able to select 1920x1080, how can I achieve that?
[16:21] <Emcy> well i logged out of the unity session and into gnome and installed it and it worked
[16:22] <WeFour> Not sure what you mean blackflow?
[16:23] <solbergen> Holymoly @Matjam , thank you so much! It was the ip forwarding setting that was set to 0... single line of code and it was OK! " sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1"
[16:24] <matjam> solbergen: yeah, that one has caught me out a bunch of times ;-) persist it with /etc/sysctl.conf
[16:24] <blackflow> WeFour: you said "my friend", not "our" :)
[16:26] <SporkWitch> solbergen: default behaviour on all linuxes i'm aware of is to have that set to 0; if you want forwarding, you must enable it
[16:27] <WeFour> oh, sorry my poor grammar, we definitely meant our. it's just that guest57044 have been soo patient with me.
[16:27] <WeFour> and thanks again, everyone.
[16:29] <solbergen> definitely going to write that down SporkWitch
[16:30] <solbergen> Thanks all!
[16:34] <m27> my vps has a load average of: 0.25, 0.19, 0.17 in htop: is this bad?
[16:34] <batteronizer> Hi, I tried following this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom/LatestDriver for Kubuntu 18.04, but apparently the package has not been released for bionic
[16:35] <batteronizer> Is anyone else running a Wacom tablet on 18.04?
[16:36] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: what trouble did you run into compiling the drivers?
[16:37] <adrian_1908> SporkWitch: he didn't state that he did
[16:37] <SporkWitch> adrian_1908: which is part of the point of the question :)
[16:38] <batteronizer> SporkWitch: Ah didn't try compiling, I'll give it a whirl
[16:38] <SporkWitch> adrian_1908: he linked an article that covers everything, including what to do if there's no package available, hence the question that assumed he followed the next step in the very thing he linked
[16:39] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: google "checkinstall" for an easy way to manage it; it gets your package manager involved so you can easily update / remove it, rather than leaving a bunch of random files laying around the system
[16:39] <adrian_1908> The articles states "It is strongly discouraged to compile your own drivers and instead should seek a ppa with the updated driver from a trusted source. If one doesn't exist, then please ask." so I would assume he's looking for simpler options first.
[16:39] <SporkWitch> adrian_1908: yeah, i actually really disagree with that wording.  may as well say "don't fix your problem, beg others to do it"
[16:40] <batteronizer> SporkWitch: Ah checkinstall sounds lovely
[16:40] <adrian_1908> yeah, fair enough. Ubuntu usually tries to be very beginner friendly though.
[16:40] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: it can be handy
[16:40] <adrian_1908> checkinstall is great, recommended.
[16:41] <SporkWitch> adrian_1908: there's a difference between user friendly and actively discouraging self-sufficiency.  that wording makes it sound like compiling your own stuff is actively BAD, and that's the issue i take with it
[16:41] <adrian_1908> Yeah, the wording is too strong, no disagreement.
[16:41] <batteronizer> It's all cool peeps. I figured since there is no package released for bionic, maybe there is a quick fix out there. Compiling is not too bad either.
[16:42] <tomreyn> m27: no. if it was 90 60 90, that'd be bad.
[16:42] <SporkWitch> adrian_1908: that said, i also denounce the "it's FOSS, if you don't like it, patch it yourself" people; it's not reasonable to expect a user to be capable, never mind willing, to read an unfamiliar code-base and hack in the functionality they want, and have to do this every single time an update is released
[16:42] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: if you can't find a package, the "quick fix" is compiling it :) lol
[16:43] <batteronizer> SporkWitch: Could be another ppa :-P
[16:43] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: that said, if you're interested in learning, it's not _that_ horrid to build a deb and set up a ppa.
[16:43] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: ah, but then it would have turned up in the same google search that gave you that article :P
[16:43] <batteronizer> SporkWitch: Yeah, I've released a ppa in the past
[16:44] <batteronizer> SporkWitch: Depends on how old the article is and whether google has indexed it yet :-D
[16:44] <SporkWitch> batteronizer: i'm new to it myself; i'm maintaining the 18.04 ppa for autokey.  reason i said is because it's a way to give back.  sure you can just build it yourself, but doing it that way, you're saving the next guy some trouble :)
[16:44] <batteronizer> SporkWitch: gotcha :-)
[16:45] <oerheks> so the driver in bionic/wacom does not work?
[16:46] <batteronizer> oerheks: my device didn't work out of the box
[16:47] <tomreyn> batteronizer: nit there IS xserver-xorg-input-wacom for bionic?
[16:47] <tomreyn> *but
[16:48] <tomreyn> do you have it installed?
[16:48] <batteronizer> There is and it is installed
[16:48] <batteronizer> tomreyn: ^^
[16:48] <tomreyn> okay, and what does X have to say about it not working?
[16:48] <Exterminador> hello guys.. I'm trying to use LVM for the 1st time. but when i do "pvcreate /dev/vda" i got  Device /dev/vda excluded by a filter and if i do "pvcreate /dev/vda1" i got  Can't open /dev/vda1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem? here's the "fdisk -l" output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/262HqDRD44/ -- any ideas? the second disk is /dev/vdb also, "df -h" output if it's worth of anything https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X8kYkfhWpn/
[16:48] <tomreyn> batteronizer: did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log aboutit?
[16:49] <batteronizer> tomreyn: nope, i'll check that
[16:49] <SporkWitch> Exterminador: not an expert myself, but i'd look over the archwiki pages on setting up lvm; they're very good and largely distro-agnostic
[16:49] <batteronizer> tomreyn: `xsetwacom --list devices` doesn't show any devices
[16:50] <tomreyn> Exterminador: you are running ubuntu from /dev/vda, your root file system is at /dev/vda1, so neither can be used as a PV
[16:50] <tomreyn> Exterminador: what did you assume these commands would do?
[16:53] <Exterminador> tomreyn, I've followed a tip from a friend. but seems that doesn't work. also, i really don't understand the LVM documentation (I'm used to valid examples to follow).
[16:54] <tomreyn> batteronizer: check dmesg + /var/log/syslog as well.
[16:55] <tomreyn> and see what you have in /sys/class/input/
[16:55] <tomreyn> Exterminador: so, again, what did you assume these commands would do?
[16:55] <tomreyn> i'm just trying to understand what you're trying to achieve
[16:56] <Exterminador> that they'd create the volumes to merge later on?
[16:56] <tomreyn> Exterminador: but were you aware that your active linux system is running on them?
[16:56] <indica2018> Why the Ubuntu 18.04 LTS does not have DSL option in Genome Network Manager ?
[16:56] <tomreyn> on the devices you listed
[16:57] <indica2018> sudo pppoeconf fails 50% times
[16:57] <Exterminador> basically  i want "/" to be 100GB insted two disks of 50GB each. tomreyn, I really don't understand anything about LVM. was like a shot in the dark
[16:57] <batteronizer> tomreyn: Turns out the tablet doesn't work if I have a usb mouse and/or keyboard and/or usb hub connected
[16:59] <ledeni> indica2018: try 'nm-connection-editor' in terminal
[16:59] <tomreyn> Exterminador: so pvcreate takes a single storage device and (destructively) prepares it for exclusive use for LVM. you would not want to rnu this on any storage devices (such as /dev/sda or /dev/sda1) that are in use or contain data you want to keep.
[16:59] <indica2018> I can try that but why they left out such a necessary option ?
[17:00] <tomreyn> batteronizer: good find! now if you ask me why, i'm afraid i would not know.
[17:00] <indica2018> Bullshit Ubuntu developers
[17:00] <batteronizer> tomreyn: hahaha
[17:00] <batteronizer> thanks anyway
[17:00] <batteronizer> tomreyn: at least narrowed it down
[17:01] <tomreyn> indica2018: please watch your language. and consider using a different distribution if ubuntu is not for you.
[17:01] <tomreyn> indica2018: i'm pretty sure DSL is still supported, though
[17:02] <Exterminador> hum. I've been really trying to understand how to merge the 2 disks, but it's been a mission imposible to me
[17:03] <tomreyn> indica2018: try running "nm-connection.editor from a terminal, thiis should give you access ot the configuration #UI
[17:03] <indica2018> This is such a basic option. It was there in 16.04 LTS. What inspired them to do away with it. ?
[17:03] <indica2018> What command should I type ?
[17:04] <ledeni> indica2018: 'nm-connection-editor'
[17:05] <indica2018> Does an average user knows command. Ubuntu was meant to be a free alternative to windows.  Assholes they are.
[17:09] <indica2018> I have command nm-connection-editor before and it do not work
[17:13] <guest___> it is possible to install unity on ubuntu 18.04?
[17:14] <indica2018> Actually it doesnot saves any DSL connection
[17:16] <indica2018> @ledeni: I used the commands on this post https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10
[17:22] <introom> hi
[17:23] <introom> how to remove the log entries of =snap changes= ?
[17:24] <ledeni> indica2018: check  --- > systemctl status  |grep Modem | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:25] <guest___> it is possible to install unity on ubuntu 18.04?
[17:25] <ledeni> guest___: no
[17:26] <guest___> ledeni: how to get unity like top bar ?
[17:30] <indica2018> @ledeni: Why an avg. user should go thru all these hassels of commands .
[17:30] <indica2018> @ledeni: He should have the option of a easy GUI interface
[17:32] <ledeni> indica2018: do you want to make work your dsl connection to work or ...
[17:36] <tomreyn> no, it's about blam,ing those woh develop the software they're using.
[17:43] <NVT3M0N> misi gan numpang nanya
[17:44] <DJones> NVT3M0N: this channel is english language only
[17:45] <NVT3M0N> sorry
[17:49] <indica20181> Why Ubuntu 18.04 Genome network manager do not have a DSL option ?
[17:50] <indica20181> sudo pppoeconf do not work most of the times. It fails 50% times
[17:51] <indica20181> Why the they have left out such a basic and important option .
[17:52] <tomreyn> !gnome
[17:52] <tomreyn> developers may be in irc.gnome.org
[17:54] <indica20181> But 16.04 LTS had it by default.
[17:54] <lapaga> indica20181, i have no idea if this will help but worth a try https://askubuntu.com/questions/966647/how-to-create-a-dsl-connection-in-network-manager-in-ubuntu-17-10
[17:55] <indica20181> ha ha ha . I have tried it thousand times. It does not work in 18.04 . Why? I have no idea.
[17:55] <NVT3M0N> sorry its all here global server
[17:56] <ledeni> lapaga: ubuntu 17.10 use unitu 18.04 use gnome 3
[17:57] <ioria> 17.10  uses gnome3
[17:57] <indica20181> ok . I do not care at all what is there under the hood. As a free alternative one should have a easy GUI to create a DSL connection.
[17:59] <ledeni> ioria 17.10 default gnome?
[18:00] <indica20181> Ubuntu 18.04 is a failure I must say.....
[18:00] <redlegion> indica20181: so write one?
[18:00] <redlegion> linux doesn't need simps standing on the sidelines whining about everything
[18:01] <redlegion> if you see a problem, fix it
[18:01] <redlegion> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:01] <Pencil2> I  just installed ubuntu but when it said I need to reboot I did it.  But now I don't have the message that asks whether I want windows or ubuntu.
[18:02] <indica20181> At least they should provide some basic facilities.
[18:02] <Pencil2> I just joined here.  What are we working on?
[18:03] <indica20181> I heard that African schools uses Ubuntu. Does school kids write and fix Ubuntu.
[18:03] <tomreyn> indica20181: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:04] <Pencil2> I installed the ubuntu but dont have grub
[18:04] <indica20181> Yes , what is a better alternative to pppoeconf, cause it fails 50 % times .
[18:06] <tomreyn> indica20181: i don't think there's any thing better, nor that there's a need for anything better. with stable connectivity, it works just fine.
[18:06] <indica20181> @Pencil2: Stick to Windows man
[18:07] <tomreyn> indica20181: that's not the type of advice we provide on #ubuntu
[18:07] <indica20181> @Pencil2: It's easy, works 90% times
[18:07] <tomreyn> Pencil2: does grub not show when you hold down shift on boot?
[18:07] <indica20181> :-D:-D:-D
[18:09] <indica20181> I have used nm-connection-editor but that does not work too.
[18:09] <Pencil2> nope .  I think when I booted it didn't get constructed.  I dont know how to set it up manually
[18:09] <syb0rg> windows works perfectly, if by "works" you mean spies on you, updates on its own schedule in the least convenient manner possible, and installs/uninstalls software due to MS's whims
[18:09] <tomreyn> "does not work" is about the worst way to provide feedback at all.
[18:10] <tomreyn> syb0rg: let's not have this discussion here, though
[18:10] <DJones> lastlog syb0rg
[18:10] <syb0rg> sure, couldn't resist insulting windows real quick though =P
[18:11] <tomreyn> Pencil2: install the 'os-prober' package, this should add windows to the grub menu unless you switched between uefi and legacy bios boot before you installe dubuntu
[18:11] <DJones> syb0rg: Please remeber that this is Ubuntu support
[18:11] <syb0rg> I will keep further comments related to people's ubuntu problems
[18:13] <syb0rg> actually I have a question I asked yesterday but didn't get an answer to - does anyone have a link to Canonical's official policy with the new data collection tool?
[18:13] <syb0rg> It would be nice if such a document existed, but I have so far only found third party sources
[18:13] <indica20181> Ubuntu and other Linux distribution misjudge is that, they think every person on earth is a programmer and will solve the problem by writing/developing their own codes. World does not work that way. Each and everybody is not a coder. There are Kid, Housewives and Granpa and Grannies too. :-D:-D:-D
[18:14] <indica20181> They are happy to check their mails everyday. But Ubuntu 18.04 has robbed them of this option too.
[18:15] <tomreyn> !ops
[18:16] <indica20181> dur bokachoda
[18:16] <batteronizer> tomreyn: he's swearing now
[18:17] <syb0rg> eh just ignore the guy, he'll get bored or banned soon enough
[18:17] <el> syb0rg: https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/dataprivacy i assume. there's probably an email address on there if it's insufficiently clear
[18:17] <Guest9> hello
[18:18] <Guest9> i installed ubuntu on my hdd
[18:18] <el> indica20181: stop or leave
[18:18] <Guest9> and i got an ssd with windows 10 installed
[18:18] <Guest9> currently my computer boots directly into ubuntu
[18:18] <Guest9> how do i make it so i chose which os i want to boot
[18:18] <indica20181> :P:P;-)
[18:19] <Guest9> indica20181 smoke weed every day
[18:19] <indica20181> bhanchod tor gand e ek lathi
[18:19] <el> Guest9: lets stick to ubuntu support instead
[18:19] <syb0rg> el, thanks, but I don't think there is anything specifically relevant to the new data collection tool in there. Maybe I'll email them as you suggested
[18:20] <batteronizer> Guest9: sudo update-grub
[18:20] <syb0rg> el, I would argue that is an ubuntu issue
[18:20] <el> syb0rg: smoking weed?
[18:20] <syb0rg> because it is about making ubuntu coexist on the hdd
[18:20] <DJones> indica20181: Please use English language as per channel guidelines
[18:20] <syb0rg> with other OSes
[18:20] <syb0rg> and not right now, el =P
[18:20]  * el facepalms
[18:20] <Guest9> batteronizer what now
[18:20] <Guest9> will windows boot now
[18:20] <Pencil2> exit
[18:21] <syb0rg> I mean ubuntu doesn't exist in a vacuum is all I'm saying. People want to install it as part of an overall functional system
[18:21] <indica20181> 8-)
[18:21] <batteronizer> DJones: I sadly understand what he's saying, he's just uttering mindless profanity.
[18:21] <el> syb0rg: he started talking about weed instead, hence the comment
[18:21] <Guest9> indica20181 thinks this is facebook chat
[18:21] <Sbur3> I'm looking to help print some socuments off of a usb key.  When I try to open the usb key, I get "Error mounting /dev/sdd at media/~/Moms: unknown filesystem type exfat".  What do I do to get access to and print from the USB key?
[18:21] <syb0rg> ah well yeah, given his name I just took that as expected side chatter
[18:22] <Guest9> batteronizer help
[18:23] <Guest9> how do i boot windows you worthless neckbeards
[18:23] <syb0rg> lol, it continues.
[18:24] <batteronizer> lol
[18:24] <batteronizer> Guest9: calm down
[18:24] <syb0rg> Guest9, if you are actually requesting help and not trolling: what version of ubuntu, and what version of windows
[18:25] <Guest9> 18.04
[18:25] <Guest9> windows 10
[18:25] <batteronizer> what does `cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg` give you? Use pastebin
[18:26] <Guest9> https://pastebin.com/2q6R825c
[18:26] <syb0rg> Guest9, in addition to people walking you through it here, here is a nice article https://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[18:26] <jatt> Guest9: #windows
[18:26] <syb0rg> just ignore the stuff about windows 8
[18:27] <syb0rg> jatt, he needs to configure grub....
[18:27] <Guest9> syb0rg that is a rubbish article
[18:27] <syb0rg> why? it outlines the steps
[18:27] <syb0rg> just skip the parts you have already done
[18:28] <indica2018> Meow !!!!!
[18:28] <syb0rg> christsake.
[18:28] <Guest9> i did all of that
[18:28] <Guest9> now im going to reboot just to check
[18:28] <indica2018> I will behave properly from now onwards
[18:28] <indica2018> he he he
[18:29] <indica2018> plz give me a solution
[18:29] <syb0rg> you just evaded a ban and meowed.
[18:29] <batteronizer> haha
[18:29] <syb0rg> my solution is to smoke less weed, or learn how to handle your s***
[18:30] <batteronizer> syb0rg: Does it sometimes feel like they are doing a great favor by giving us a chance to help them?
[18:30] <indica2018> Weed is a contraband item in India and possesing it is crime
[18:30] <syb0rg> heh.
[18:30] <syb0rg> Guest9, you are right, that article is rubbish
[18:30] <syb0rg> my bad
[18:31] <syb0rg> it looked better than it is on close inspection
[18:31] <Guest9> hello
[18:31] <syb0rg> oh
[18:31] <Guest9> how do i make windows boot
[18:31] <batteronizer> Guest9: your grub.cfg doesn't have a windows entry
[18:32] <Guest9> good observation
[18:32] <Guest9> didnt notice that
[18:32] <batteronizer> Just to be clear, you had Windows first, and you installed Ubuntu on top without overwriting the Windows partition?
[18:32] <batteronizer> Guest9: ^
[18:32] <Guest9> yes
[18:33] <Guest9> i installed ubuntu on a seperate hdd
[18:33] <Guest9> windows is on ssd
[18:33] <syb0rg> Guest9, can you select the windows sdd manually from your boot list?
[18:33] <nina15> hola
[18:33] <Guest9> grub doesnt show up
[18:33] <syb0rg> usually press F12 or something on boot to access it, depends on your bios
[18:34] <nina15> very well
[18:34] <nina15> hello
[18:34] <Guest9> ok let me try again syb0rg
[18:34] <batteronizer> nina15: hi :-D
[18:35] <nina15> hello
[18:35] <nina15> very well
[18:35] <faLUCE> hello. do you know how to download videos from dailymotion website using linux? I tried the online services, but they can't download a file bigger than 4.66 GB
[18:35] <nina15> aqui hablan espal
[18:35] <Guest9> hello
[18:35] <nina15> español
[18:35] <Guest9> how do i boot windows
[18:35] <nina15> hello
[18:36] <batteronizer> Guest9: Did you try booting from the other disk?
[18:36] <syb0rg> lol Guest9, so were you able to get the boot options list up?
[18:36] <Guest9> yes
[18:36] <Guest9> there was nothing there
[18:37] <syb0rg> hmm, hope you didn't nuke the windows bootloader
[18:37] <syb0rg> can you show us the output of lsblk?
[18:37] <syb0rg> (pastebin again)
[18:37] <Guest9> https://pastebin.com/Kbh8ZfkG
[18:38] <syb0rg> so I take it /dev/sdb, the 112 GB disk is your windows SSD?
[18:38] <Guest9> yes
[18:39] <syb0rg> that doesn't look right - windows uses EFI mode exclusively IIRC and should have an efi partition
[18:39] <syb0rg> but I just see one big partition on that disk
[18:39] <Guest9>  /dev/sdb1
[18:39] <syb0rg> yeah, exactly.
[18:39] <syb0rg> did you say you installed windows first?
[18:39] <Guest9> yes
[18:40] <Guest9> also when i updated windows
[18:40] <Guest9> i used another hdd to update it
[18:40] <Guest9> so it had files on that one
[18:40] <Guest9> but now its wiped
[18:40] <syb0rg> hmmmmm
[18:40] <syb0rg> the efi partition may have been on that other drive, because it isn't on this one
[18:40] <Guest9> mayday
[18:41] <syb0rg> lol
[18:41] <Guest9> what now syb0rg
[18:41] <indica2018> Does Ubuntu has a WinRE ?
[18:41] <syb0rg> well first let me verify that I am correct about win10 only using EFI
[18:41] <indica2018> I mean a similar thing ?
[18:42] <Exterminador> welp, I quit. I can't understand LVM in any way! RIP ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:43] <syb0rg> Okay Guest9, it looks like in some cases win10 can use BIOS mode, so maybe nothing is wrong
[18:44] <syb0rg> Guest9, do you have gparted?
[18:45] <syb0rg> can you open it and see if your windows disk has an msdos partition table?
[18:45] <indica2018> I guess how many has got solution in this IRC channel  ????
[18:45] <tomreyn> Exterminador: use it when installing, or when adding new storage. it doesn't help you when your disk is full
[18:46] <Guest9> looks like /dev/sda1 is swap
[18:46] <Guest9> and /boot
[18:46] <syb0rg> I mean /dev/sdb
[18:46] <Exterminador> tomreyn, i don't have any chance to setup LVM when installing (it's a vps). all i want is to make "/" use 100GB (both disks) instead 50GB (one disk)
[18:47] <Guest9> its not there
[18:47] <Guest9> oh right
[18:47] <syb0rg> huh?
[18:47] <Guest9> found it
[18:47] <Guest9> added a boot flag to it
[18:47] <syb0rg> ok, so if you are in gparted select /dev/sdb, then click view -> Device Information
[18:48] <syb0rg> Guest9, that might help, but lets see if it is an MSDOS partition table really quick
[18:48] <Exterminador> unfortunately, I'm not able how to extend /dev/vda1 to have the 2 disks.
[18:48] <Exterminador> able to understand*
[18:48] <Guest9> file system: ntfs
[18:48] <syb0rg> if it is, it is probably using BIOS mode and the lack of an EFI partition is ok
[18:48] <Guest9> Mounted on /media/jbosh/B46EEAF46EEAAE74
[18:48] <syb0rg> so did you click view -> device information?
[18:48] <Guest9> yes
[18:48] <syb0rg> on the left it wil say partition table:
[18:48] <syb0rg> and then either gpt or msdos
[18:48] <syb0rg> which does it say?
[18:49] <Guest9> nothing
[18:49] <syb0rg> ..... screenshot?
[18:49] <syb0rg> host it on imgur
[18:49] <Guest9> https://imgur.com/a/aeRnQqt
[18:50] <syb0rg> ok, so you opened the partition information dialog
[18:50] <syb0rg> you can close that top window
[18:51] <syb0rg> then got to view -> device information
[18:51] <syb0rg> and some text should pop up on the left
[18:51] <Guest9> msdos
[18:51] <Guest9> partition table
[18:51] <syb0rg> okay, that is good
[18:52] <syb0rg> so you said that you set the boot flag on the partition there?
[18:52] <syb0rg> Maybe now it will be a boot option
[18:52] <Guest9> ok
[18:52] <Guest9> ill be right back
[18:54] <hron84> Hi! I recently updated to Bionic and Vim started requiring space/other character to enter double quote. Also Chrome started interpret o/ as crossed o. I'm at normal US language. with US layout. Please help me how can I completely disable this feature. I'm using Ubuntu Mate as a desktop if it matters.
[18:55] <Guest9> hello
[18:55] <Guest9> how do i boot windows
[18:55] <syb0rg> haha, no luck I take it?
[18:55] <SporkWitch> hron84: try switching keyboard layout to something else and back
[18:55] <Guest9> in the boot menu it shows the ssd
[18:55] <syb0rg> and it didn't before?
[18:55] <SporkWitch> Guest9: ask ##windows
[18:56] <Guest9> but when i boot it it says no operating system found
[18:56] <Guest9> didnt know that before
[18:56] <syb0rg> you mean it didn't show it before?
[18:56] <hron84> SporkWitch: did not helped.
[18:56] <Guest9> no i just didnt check there before
[18:56] <SporkWitch> hron84: does it persist through reboots?
[18:57] <syb0rg> Guest9, if you can tell your computer to boot to the windows drive and it doesn't work, my best guess is that you nuked the windows bootloader
[18:57] <hron84> I've a configured Hungarian layout, I switched to it and back but does not helped. And yes, it persists.
[18:57] <syb0rg> so it's back to "mayday" I'm afraid =P
[18:57] <syb0rg> and I would agree that your next stop should be #windows
[18:57] <Guest9> ok
[18:57] <Guest9> thank you
[18:57] <syb0rg> np, gl
[18:57] <Guest9> i rate this customer support 5/5
[18:57] <hron84> Somehow upgrade enabled an international character entering feature but I really do not use any of it
[18:57] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: they won't help either, but it's at least the correct topical channel loll
[18:57] <syb0rg> haha, okay, I'll put that on my resume Guest9
[18:58] <syb0rg> lol is that not very useful channel?
[18:58] <syb0rg> I wouldn't know, I don't spend much quality time with windows
[18:58] <syb0rg> ^ SporkWitch
[18:58] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: ##windows?    If you actually find a problem in Windows they're more likely to ban you after racing to defend MSFT lol
[18:58] <syb0rg> oh lord
[18:59] <syb0rg> okay, maybe the google is a better ally in this cas Guest9
[18:59] <syb0rg> *case
[18:59] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: you're more likely to get help on a real windows issue in ##linux, though that channel is effectively useless these days as well; they actively encourage trolls
[18:59] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, that isn't my experience in ##linux whatsoever, that is my main channel on freenode
[19:00] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: most of the people left regularly give bad info
[19:00] <brenster21> hey so my external is giving me I/O errors, what should i do?
[19:00] <syb0rg> I dunno, there is a lot of linux knowledge among the regulars there
[19:00] <Exterminador> what about grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX ? :x
[19:00] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: there's a lot of ignorance and trolling from the remaining regulars there, and they foster laziness and encourage trolling
[19:01] <SporkWitch> hron84: not sure where it is in mate, but in KDE the keyboard settings have an advanced tab where you can set things like compose keys and other keyboard overrides; look for something similar
[19:01] <syb0rg> well let's agree to disagree, we're getting off topic anyway
[19:02] <hron84> SporkWitch: i found compose key, however my problem is a little different. I do not press anything just a simple double-quote and it behaves like when you select US International. I'm digging through UIM/XIM features but I really do not know what's happening - and why.
[19:03] <SporkWitch> hron84: not sure where mate takes things from, i use KDE :(
[19:03] <hron84> I'm relogging...
[19:04] <syb0rg> brenster21, I would try to extract all the data from that drive, it's probably failing... Unless it works fine on another computer/OS?
[19:04] <syb0rg> is it at all functional right now?
[19:05] <brenster21> It works for a few hours after my computer restarts
[19:05] <syb0rg> ok, I have had bad experiences with usb storage devices on linux. Does it always work fine after restarting?
[19:05] <brenster21> it started giving me errors when i plugged by other 8tb drive in(usb) and the computer tried to mounting it to the same spot and gave me errors)
[19:06] <brenster21> i removed it and restarted and everything seemed ok, but i guess not
[19:06] <SporkWitch> run fsck on it, and if it supports it, use the SMART tools to check health
[19:06] <syb0rg> ^good ideas there
[19:06] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: i'm curious what kind of issues you've seen with usb storage on linux; unless the drive is violating standards, there should be no issue
[19:07] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, I have on many occasions tried to dd an iso to a usb drive and have it mysteriously fail even with different drives, then work fine after restarting
[19:07] <syb0rg> I've also occasionally had storage devices refuse to mount until I restart
[19:08] <danielboston26> anyone know if ubuntu will work with the hp envy 15m-bp112dx
[19:08] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: that's a whole other beast; usb boot media is always miserable, and dd doesn't really do what you think it does on a flash drive, since it can't address particular sections of storage, the controller abstracts it
[19:08] <syb0rg> and writing to usb devices is often verrrry slow, even over usb 3
[19:08] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: if you need USB boot media, use Etcher
[19:08] <danielboston26> not finding any info on google
[19:08] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, like I said it always works fine after restarting, dd serves me well. But thanks.
[19:09] <syb0rg> And it is only an intermittent issue anyway
[19:09] <brenster21> sporkwitch what command do i do?
[19:09] <danielboston26> i did find a referance to the 15m being certified by cannonical but its an older model
[19:09] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: i've never had an I/O issue like that that wasn't an indication of imminent or active hardware failure
[19:09] <syb0rg> yeah SporkWitch, but I've had this happen over the years with devices that are still fine today
[19:09] <syb0rg> *shrug* it's just never been a big enough deal to try and troubleshoot since restarting works
[19:10] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: the HDD in my older laptop has been randomly going read-only for several years now, it still works fine otherwise lol
[19:10] <syb0rg> heh
[19:10] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: but you can bet your ass i don't store anything i care about on it lol
[19:10] <syb0rg> danielboston26, fsck /dev/whatever
[19:10] <syb0rg> er sorry, brenster21
[19:10] <brenster21> ok
[19:10] <SporkWitch> brenster21: man fsck
[19:10] <ioria> danielboston26, why don't you run it in try mode ?
[19:11] <danielboston26> ioria before i tried just wanted to see if someone else has tried it on that hardware
[19:12] <ioria> danielboston26, coffee lake might be a problem
[19:12] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, the experience I have had is this: try to write image to a usb drive: fails. Repeat with two other drives: fails. Restart, try dd'ing to original drive: success! And also, less frequently: Try to mount usb device: fails. Try to mount a differnet usb device: fails. Restart: everything mount fine!
[19:12] <syb0rg> I'm pretty sure it is the usb drivers
[19:12] <danielboston26> ioria does linux not have good drivers?
[19:13] <SporkWitch> i wonder if stock ubuntu is doing something funky; i use kubuntu, and have never encountered anything like that...
[19:13] <ioria> danielboston26, well, depends on the hw
[19:13] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, I typically use Xubuntu, although I switched my desktop to server edition + plasma
[19:14] <brenster21> ok i got absolutely nothing back form the command
[19:14] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: yeah, i just don't think it's a driver issue unless you're using a different driver than the other variants
[19:14] <syb0rg> (which is really nice btw, kde has improved vastly since I last tried it)
[19:14] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: that kind of symptom and workaround is pretty distinct
[19:14] <danielboston26> i believe system76 is selling coffee lake computers so it can't be that bad
[19:14] <brenster21> fsck from util-linux 2.27.1
[19:14] <brenster21>  is all i got
[19:14] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: yeah, KDE is pretty good, except for the regressions in the region and virutal desktop settings.
[19:14] <zutat> syb0rg: does the server edition use more security features than the desktop edition?
[19:14] <SporkWitch> brenster21: man fsck
[19:14] <ioria> danielboston26, as i said, why don't you try it ?
[19:14] <syb0rg> zutat, nah
[19:15] <syb0rg> I would have used regular kubuntu but the live system wouldn't boot
[19:15] <syb0rg> so I went this route instead
[19:15] <brenster21> sporkwitch I typed in sudo fsck /dev/sdd1
[19:15] <ioria> brenster21, run fsck from Advanced -> Recovery
[19:15] <brenster21> didnt give me anything, (sudo because root mounted the drive)
[19:15] <danielboston26> i am seeing graphics issues though
[19:15] <brenster21> ioria how do i do that?
[19:16] <SporkWitch> danielboston26: install correct GPU drivers
[19:16] <SporkWitch> RIP
[19:16] <hron84_> So, I digged into this problem, and I found I want to disable deadkeys completely. I tried several ways but didn't helped. I don't want to reinstall this system. Please, can anyone help me how can I disable this feature in Ubuntu 18.04? I'm using a layout [English (US)] with no dead keys, but the system trying to enforce using dead keys.
[19:16] <ioria> brenster21,  grub -> (if you don'r see it, press left shif or esc) -> Advanced Options -> fsck
[19:16] <hron84_> The system is unusable for me in this state.
[19:17] <brenster21> ioria i am using ssh and am away
[19:19] <ugnius> Hi, I'm on desktop computer, Bunutnu, 18.04 Gnome, I want to launch editor with root privileges, like "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" but using GUI, not terminal (via Alt+F2 for ex.), pkexec does not work? What's the correct way?
[19:19] <ugnius> *Bununtu = Ubuntu, sorry
[19:19] <matjam> ugnius: you shouldn't use sudo with graphical apps as it may change ownership of some files in your home directory
[19:20] <ioria> yes, but gksu has been nuked
[19:20] <ugnius> matjam: ok, will remember that
[19:20] <matjam> ugnius: you can juse "gedit admin:///etc/fstab"
[19:21] <ioria> yep
[19:22] <hron84_> SporkWitch: the only solution was move to US-altgr-Intl. Something really freaked up in this release.
[19:22] <hron84_> but at least it works.