[00:00] <RJ2> didn't notice anything when i upgraded, how can i check?
[00:00] <muxol> a graphical way is to run kpackagekit
[00:00] <iggimin> why would wifi adapter work in ubuntu gnome but not kde?
[00:00] <RJ2> know the cli way?
[00:01] <muxol> in konsole do an "apt-get safe-upgrade"
[00:02] <RJ2> well, nothing looks out of place in kpackagekit. apt-get safe-upgrade doesn't appear to be a valid command
[00:03] <Wolfcastle> i don't have that feature either...
[00:03] <muxol> well, "aptitude safe-upgrade" certainly is
[00:03] <RJ2> ah yes fine with aptitude - nothing to report, completed fine with no new updates
[00:04] <RJ2> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:04] <Wolfcastle> wtf
[00:04] <Wolfcastle> hadn't noticed
[00:04] <Wolfcastle> i feel ripped off
[00:04] <muxol> when i upgrade a number of updates were blocked for whatever reason. i resolved them by running "apt-get dist-upgrade"...but "aptitude safe-upgrade" would've worked just as well
[00:04] <RJ2> the whole reason i upgraded was for the tabbed windows :)
[00:04] <muxol> it works fine on my system
[00:05] <RJ2> did you get 4.4 from ppa backports?
[00:05] <Wolfcastle> hehe not me but i wanted to try it
[00:05] <Wolfcastle> i did aptitude dist-upgrade
[00:05] <muxol> go to APPEARANCES-->WINDOWS and enable window grouping
[00:05] <muxol> yes, i did
[00:06] <muxol> workign?
[00:07] <RJ2> no such option for me :|
[00:07] <muxol> weird
[00:07] <muxol> when you go to help and "about kde" what version does it report?
[00:08] <Wolfcastle> i found a part named window tabbing in window behaviour
[00:09] <RJ2> Platform Version 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0)
[00:09] <RJ2> i've tried with and without compositioning enabled too :(
[00:10] <muxol> I must say, I thought the feature looked cool on paper but I've found really no use for it
[00:11] <Wolfcastle> XD
[00:11] <Wolfcastle> i guess it's faster to switch with alt-tab
[00:12] <muxol> indeed!
[00:12] <RJ2> i have some options for window tabbing in window behaviour - "auto group similar windows" and "switch to automatically goruped windows immediaTELY", but no options anyway to enable it
[00:12] <muxol> once in a while it's nice lumping a bunch of okular instances together...but it annoyingly keeps all instances separate in the taskbar...as it should i suppose
[00:13] <muxol> rj2, have you rebooted since the update?
[00:13] <RJ2> yes
[00:13] <RJ2> twice, to be sure :)
[00:13] <muxol> have you jumped up and down twice as well? hands on head?
[00:13] <Wolfcastle> RJ2: found that too...tried them all and nothing changes the menu on right click
[00:14] <RJ2> muxol: i'll trythat next :P
[00:15] <RJ2> i get some new options in that menu, like special window settings etc, but not grouping settings
[00:16] <Wolfcastle> is there some way of using kbabel in kde 4.x?
[00:17] <muxol> i can testify that grouping works without compositing
[00:17] <Wolfcastle> I mean 3.5 apps should work right
[00:17] <muxol> 3.5 apps work for me
[00:17] <muxol> they're ugly as hell, but they work
[00:17] <Wolfcastle> yes ok so the problem is kbabel isn't in the repo
[00:17] <Wolfcastle> i'll look for a deb package on the net
[00:19] <Torch> Wolfcastle: what do you want with kbabel in kde 4.4?
[00:19] <Torch> Wolfcastle: or 4.x?
[00:19] <Wolfcastle> Torch: I don't like lokalize
[00:20] <Torch> Wolfcastle: ah, ok.
[00:20] <Wolfcastle> it just goes on my nerves, I'm used to kbabel
[00:22] <RJ2> ah!
[00:22] <RJ2> ok, so the window decorator needs to support tabbing - i was using plastique, changed to oxygen and it works
[00:22] <Wolfcastle> there we go no problem, kbabel up and running
[00:22] <Wolfcastle> lol
[00:23] <Wolfcastle> you're right
[00:23] <Wolfcastle> nice going RJ2
[00:24] <RJ2> np :)
[00:28] <RJ2> i'll try oxygen for a bit so i can try tabbing
[01:03] <Wolfcastle> how's that tabbing going RJ2
[01:03] <Wolfcastle> It's all screwed up here
[01:03] <Wolfcastle> switched back to my old window decorator
[01:24] <titan_ark> hey, anyone able to get the OOo 3.2?
[01:34] <biglinux> alguem do Brasil aqui?
[01:36] <Walzmyn> can anybody help me with this nepomuk error: http://pastebin.com/d5741a7b6  ?
[01:54] <direpenguin> hello everyone
[01:55] <titan_ark> hello direpenguin
[01:55] <direpenguin> im in need of assistance
[01:55] <direpenguin> im installing linux with dual boot
[01:55] <titan_ark> i could try but quite a n00b myself
[01:55] <titan_ark> yes, go ahead
[01:55] <direpenguin> and when i booted up my computer, i chose to load linux
[01:55] <titan_ark> just did it for my friend lat night
[01:55] <titan_ark> okay and?
[01:55] <direpenguin> and now it brought me to some GRUB prompt
[01:55] <direpenguin> i dont know what to type in it
[01:56] <titan_ark> grub prompt?
[01:56] <titan_ark> could you elaborate?
[01:56] <direpenguin> uhm
[01:56] <direpenguin> it wants me to type somthing but i dont know what to type
[01:58] <titan_ark> direpenguin, what version of linux are u using exactly?
[01:58] <direpenguin> the one thats on the main page of unbuntus web site
[01:58] <direpenguin> ubuntu*
[02:00] <titan_ark> direpenguin, i wont be able to help you with this much info. you could try asking some pros. join the #ubuntu channel as there are more people there
[02:11] <kavurt> I just installed karmic on a 16'' toshiba. there's only 1024x768 resolution available. how to fix it?
[02:35] <lucas_> hey all, i have a question, when we select opengl for desktop effects whats the best opengl mode?
[02:36] <lucas_> share memory or one of the other options?
[02:46] <felipe_ahura> I have Ubuntu instaled on my computer. I just instaled Kubuntu via Synaptic, but when I log into it, the font size of everything except the main applets on the desktop is extremely big, and the configurations of fonts in appearance seems to be normal... anyone experienced this before?
[02:50] <felipe_ahura> I have Ubuntu instaled on my computer. I just instaled Kubuntu via Synaptic, but when I log into it, the font size of everything except the main applets on the desktop is extremely big, and the configurations of fonts in appearance seems to be normal... anyone experienced this before?
[02:53] <felipe_ahura> Can somebody at least tell me which place is the correct for me to post my questions?
[03:01] <bipolar> Can someone help me with this preseed file? http://pastebin.com/d72de06ad The local[0,1] repos are not getting added to apt, and when it tries to install ssc-packages it fails since it doesn't have the repos.
[03:16] <jason__> <- Ubuntu Newbie.  I am looking for a list of irc servers for use with Konversation  where would I look for this and how do I add the list to Konversation?
[03:21] <DT`> anyone have the codes for konversation's command alaised?
[03:21] <DT`> aliases*
[03:27] <hdevalence> how do I remap the up arrow key to the down arrow key and vice versa?
[03:28] <hdevalence> or possibly remap Win+Down to Up
[03:29] <hdevalence> my Up key is broken, you see, and I can't just get a new keyboard, because it's a laptop
[03:30] <DT`> that is a very interesting question. were i actually using real kde i could probably find out
[03:35] <hdevalence> \j #linux
[03:43] <iggimin_> Hi - how do I configure my 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)?
[03:43] <iggimin_> It's not playing speakers or headphones in a fresh Kubuntu 9.10 64-bit install
[03:48] <viashino> anyone have some kind of script to install and configure carom3d to run ?
[03:50] <mase_wk> viashino: what is carom3d ?
[03:50] <ev0sx1> folks!
[03:50] <ev0sx1> does anyone here, have kde 4.4?
[03:51] <mase_wk> ev0sx1: i have a copy :)
[03:51] <viashino> its a poll game ... billiards, dont know the name of the game in anglish
[03:51] <viashino> i like to play 8-ball ^^
[03:51] <ev0sx1> mase_wk: do you have problems with your keyboard layout
[03:51] <ev0sx1> ?
[03:51] <mase_wk> fair enough :)
[03:51] <ev0sx1> was it messed up after the upgrade to kde 4?
[03:51] <mase_wk> ev0sx1: not very specific question but no.
[03:51] <mase_wk> you might have better luck if you just state your problem
[03:52] <iggimin_> any idea at all how to setup my sound card?
[03:52] <ev0sx1> i can not use proper punctuaction like e´
[03:52] <ev0sx1> after i upgraded
[03:52] <iggimin_> is it possible to make a keyboard shortcut to launch a terminal?
[03:52] <mase_wk> ev0sx1:  which layout are you using ?
[03:53] <mase_wk> iggimin_: should be possible
[03:54] <iggimin_> mase_wk - I think so too. It worked in gnome but KDE is quite different
[03:54] <iggimin_> same thing with my sound card - it worked in gnome
[03:54] <iggimin_> heheh I search google for kubuntu and it keeps asking if I mean "ubuntu" :)
[03:54] <ev0sx1> mase_wk: portuguese
[03:54] <ev0sx1> i can write properly on firefox
[03:54] <iggimin_> the only other question I have is how do I change my windows switcher animations?
[03:54] <ev0sx1> other than that no.
[03:55] <mase_wk> your sound cards are configured in the system settings multimedia
[03:55] <mase_wk> you can choose your output device there
[03:55] <mase_wk> you may also want to check in kmix that your PCM value is audible
[03:55] <iggimin_> already checked kmix.
[03:56] <iggimin_> what output device? pulseaudio or the HD ATI?
[03:56] <iggimin_> (duh - probably the ATI, huh?)
[03:56] <mase_wk> i dunno, try them and see which one works for you
[03:56] <mase_wk> ev0sx1: your probably going to have more luck on a mailing list
[03:56] <ev0sx1> erm
[03:57] <iggimin_> hmm- how do I try them? I click on it and it just highlights. double click does nothing
[03:57] <ev0sx1> never tried one
[03:57] <ev0sx1> lol
[03:57] <ev0sx1> is the 4.4 version available on a fresh install?
[03:57] <ev0sx1> or is it only in the backports?
[03:57] <mase_wk> iggimin_: you see the 'prefer' 'defer' options at the bottom
[03:57] <mase_wk> ev0sx1: what are you referring to ?
[03:57] <iggimin_> ah! heheh, had to scroll down :D
[03:58] <ev0sx1> mase_wk: the new kde 4.4 version?
[03:58] <mase_wk> iggimin_: what size is your screen ?
[03:58] <ev0sx1> if i download a copy of the kubuntu 9.10, does it come with kde 4.4 or with the previous version 3.5.2?
[03:58] <iggimin_> it's a 15-inch; how do I see the size?
[03:58] <mase_wk> ev0sx1: previous version afaik
[03:58] <ev0sx1> yeah
[03:59] <ev0sx1> i guess ill stick with the old version until this one works ok
[03:59] <mase_wk> ev0sx1: just ask on the mailing list
[03:59] <mase_wk> someone will know about keyboard layouts
[03:59] <iggimin_> neither the ATI or the pulseaudio will work - I've preferred and deferred both
[03:59] <mase_wk> lots of intelligent people on there
[03:59] <iggimin_> do I need to logout or reboot if I change the preference for sound?
[04:00] <mase_wk> iggimin_: dunno sorry, thats the limit of my knowledge. Maybe check out how to configure pulse..maybe its doing somethign strange
[04:01] <iggimin_> no worriez
[04:01] <iggimin_> what about setting a keyboard shortcut to launch a terminal? anyone :D
[04:02] <iggimin_> oh well 0/3 - I'll try another time. thanks!
[04:12] <upgrade> i was hping maybe somebody could help me connect to another irc
[05:00] <Speedy2> Hey all.  I'd like to compile a vanilla kernel for my machine.  I know the kernel devs have some mainline kernels, but I'm still fuzzy on the process.  Any pointers?
[05:44] <qZone> can someone tell me why I can't enable the 3D desktop on Kubuntu as root?
[06:03] <marco____> Hi. I have a wireless connection. KDE can detect it but I cant connect to internet. I put the key several times but it doesnt connect to internet. Is there a solution?
[06:34] <RnFstRuckHrd> Anyone else switch to KDE 4.4?
[06:35] <RnFstRuckHrd> ooops, sorry I did not realize this was the support channel - Sorry!
[06:36] <jussi01> RnFstRuckHrd: #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:36] <RnFstRuckHrd> jussi - TY   :-)
[06:55] <chenzya> peace!! :0
[06:55] <chenzya> :)
[07:17] <RnFstRuckHrd> hmmmm - an imposter!
[07:18] <RnFstRuckHrd> ugh sorry again - I am going to leave this channel until I have a real reason for support. Sorry again!
[07:23] <Riddell> Karmic users needed to test Amarok from ~kubuntu-ppa/beta
[07:35] <pmv> hi\
[07:35] <pmv> what's a good way to change themes in KDE apps without running KDE
[07:50] <megaman> hello
[07:50] <WaltzingAlong> which packages need to be installed for f1 help to show something other than help:/digikam/index.html does not exist?
[07:50] <WaltzingAlong> hello megaman
[07:51] <megaman> hi
[07:51] <megaman> you can hear me?
[07:52] <WaltzingAlong> no but i can read what you have typed, megaman
[07:56] <megaman> cool where can i get kubuntu help
[07:58] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: you are here
[07:58] <WaltzingAlong> !ask | megaman
[08:00] <megaman> i got a geforce 2 mx/mx 400 graphics card will that support desktop effects like the cube?
[08:01] <megaman> its 64mb
[08:02] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: i do not know. have you tried it? did you enable the binary nvidia driver?
[08:08] <megaman> i know how to enable it because i´ve done it on another machine... in hardware drivers it says nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 96) [recomended] i have a green light at the corner thats says drivers is activated and current...but i cant get it to work
[08:09] <megaman> iḿ not sure what binary nvidia driver is
[08:10] <Vroomfondle> that's the binary nvidia driver.
[08:11] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: ok so with the green light then it seems to be enabled already. you could check though.
[08:11] <megaman> how do i check
[08:11] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: copy/paste the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log   to http://paste.ubuntu.com             that log will show you which driver has been loaded
[08:12] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: the cube can be configured in system settings/desktop/...
[08:12] <megaman> also iḿ not sure why the greenlight came on because it wasnt before...when i first used the hardware driver program it never finished it said error when i tried to activate
[08:14] <megaman> then i downloaded the driver through adept...and it said ¨a differnt version of this driver is in use¨ then i uninstalled that download....then it started to say the driver is enable and current....wierd i know
[08:15] <infect3d> kubuntu 9.10 is  not detecting the sound devices on my hp dv2000
[08:15] <infect3d> it was workin fine in the mornin
[08:15] <infect3d> any idea wat needs to be done?
[08:16] <WaltzingAlong> infect3d: worked fine in the morning with kubuntu 9.10?
[08:16] <megaman> waltz how do i paste to that website.............sorry iḿ very new to linux
[08:18] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: open that file with Kate; then open that website with konqueror. select all the text in kate. copy. then to the website, you type in your name at the top and paste in the big 'content' section. click the paste! button. this will give you a new URL paste.ubuntu.com/?????? share that new url here
[08:19] <megaman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/377438/
[08:19] <megaman> i think i did it right
[08:20] <RecycleCorn>  It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place!    They never will!  The same goes for New Orleans!  Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed.  What have the niggers in
[08:20] <RecycleCorn> New Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[08:20] <FloodBotK3> RecycleCorn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: ok. you see that several lines start with NVIDIA ? well this is the binary nvidia driver. loaded and running at 1280x1024.
[08:22] <megaman> I have no idea what any of that stuff in that file means...thats alot of freakin text..
[08:23] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: :D
[08:23] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: ok so configure the cube. system settings / desktop effects
[08:23] <megaman> ok
[08:25] <megaman> Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.
[08:25] <megaman> Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[08:25] <megaman> i got that message
[08:26] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: which compositing type is checked? also an option in desktop effects
[08:26] <megaman> ok on the advanced tab it says open gl
[08:27] <megaman> and i have a option for xrender
[08:27] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: try one of the other options
[08:31] <megaman> ok i got a window in the corner of the screen that says ¨KDE Window Manager : The following effects could not be activated.... desktop cube and desktop cube animation
[08:33] <WaltzingAlong> oh
[08:33] <WaltzingAlong> ok
[08:33] <WaltzingAlong> anyone else here know these better?
[08:36] <megaman> yeah it really sucks i mean i can totally live without desktop effects but i think my computer should be capable of enabling them.......i wish i could just find out if like i dont have a strong enough graphics card or something, so i can lay it to rest, but i heard of computers with very low specs running these effects so it makes me think i can.
[08:39] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: yeah maybe it is just a setting somewhere; i do not know
[08:39] <megaman> thank you for you help anyways
[09:00] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: confirm direct rendering is enabled:  The command "glxinfo | grep -i direct" should read "Yes"; in konsole, run       glxinfo | direct -i direct
[09:07] <koltroll> I would like to remove the taskbar, but keep the system tray to the far right. I have no idea how to do this, but I guess it's real simple and I'm probably overlooking something here :)
[09:09] <xjjk> koltroll: I do the same
[09:09] <xjjk> koltroll: it's not obvious, but it is simple...
[09:10] <koltroll> xjjk, ooh I'm waiting with great excitement to hear how it's done! :)
[09:10] <xjjk> I'm not sure how to explain it...
[09:10] <xjjk> first, remove the taskbar
[09:10] <xjjk> when in the panel editing mode, just move the sliders that control maximum size/etc
[09:11] <xjjk> also under the 'more settings' button you can select the alignment of the panel, i.e. which side of the screen to appear on
[09:13] <koltroll> jesus fucking christ I can't remove the taskbar without closing all apps?! There's no place to rightclick so that I can reach the taskbar settings! amazing!
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> koltroll: could also check in #kd
[09:13] <WaltzingAlong> koltroll: could also check in #kde i meant
[09:16] <koltroll> xjjk, so the taskbar is gone. what am I supposed to do with the sliders?
[09:16] <koltroll> WaltzingAlong, yea man I know, tho since I'm not a registered freenode user it seems I cannot write in there
[09:16] <koltroll> I should register I guess
[09:16] <xjjk> koltroll: er, click the "cashew"
[09:16] <xjjk> or whatever it's called
[09:16] <xjjk> you can remove the taskbar apply easily
[09:16] <koltroll> yea the taskbar is gone
[09:17] <koltroll> and I have clicked the 'cashew' :)
[09:17] <xjjk> so, you'll see the sliders
[09:17] <koltroll> now the tray is to the far left, just to the right of the "K"
[09:17] <koltroll> and the whole panel is maximized.
[09:17] <koltroll> yea I see them
[09:17] <xjjk> okay, where did you want it?
[09:17] <koltroll> dude I just added a "spacer" now
[09:17] <WaltzingAlong> you may also want a spacer in there
[09:18] <koltroll> it's all good with a spacer :)
[09:18] <koltroll> thanks alot you guys!
[09:18] <xjjk> whatever you want
[09:19] <koltroll> oh another thing. How can I configure "show desktop" to a keyboard shortcut?
[09:22] <Torch> koltroll: the show desktop plasmoid can be assigned a global shortcut in its settings
[09:44] <koloj> privet
[10:07] <pmwisse> hi, thanks for the backport 4.4 builds
[10:08] <pmwisse> they are quickly improving
[10:08] <megaman> anyone using a nvidia geforce 2 mx/mx 400 64mb graphics card?
[10:08] <pmwisse> just a quick question about the last major bug
[10:08] <pmwisse> after resume from suspend to ram
[10:08] <pmwisse> my plasma-desktop crashes every time
[10:08] <pmwisse> is that known?
[10:21] <olenz> Hi! Has anybody ever manager to open an OpenVPN connection via knetworkmanager?
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> olenz: i have an openvpn connection but not through knetworkmanager
[10:25] <olenz> i always used GNOME's nm-applet so far
[10:25] <olenz> that worked fine
[10:25] <olenz> I would prefer to switch to the KDE tool however
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: have you tried in #kde ?
[10:26] <olenz> Or: does anybody know how to deactivate knetworkmanager (without removing it)?
[10:27] <megaman> whats that?
[10:27] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: the channel for kde
[10:27] <megaman> oh no i havent
[10:27] <megaman> iĺl try it
[10:28] <WaltzingAlong> megaman: the issue you are having might not be kubuntu specific
[10:29] <olenz> And: what happened to the networkmanager plasmoid?
[11:07] <kavurt> how can I fix the resolution problem?
[11:07] <andries> Does anyone know how to get kubuntu to actually logout and shutdown using the GUI (instead of the command console)? For some reason the exit/logout button does not work.
[11:17] <babalu> hi, how can i try koffice2 on kubuntu?
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> babalu: install it? think it is koffice-kde4
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> !info koffice-kde4 | babalu
[11:22] <babalu> WaltzingAlong: oh thanks
[11:41] <AzikaCorp> nobody
[11:41] <AzikaCorp> need help ??
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> AzikaCorp: are you looking for help or for someone to whom to offer your help?
[11:45] <AzikaCorp> I am boring, so want to offer help :p
[11:47] <olenz> AzikaCorp: Well, if you ask for it: do you have an idea how I can disable knetworkmanager?
[11:48] <olenz> AzikaCorp: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3110104.0
[11:49] <vova_kobyzev> Hi!!
[11:49] <AzikaCorp> hi
[11:49] <vova_kobyzev> spricht jemand deutsch__
[11:49] <vova_kobyzev> ??
[11:50] <vova_kobyzev> russian ??
[11:51] <WaltzingAlong> !de | vova_kobyzev
[11:51] <WaltzingAlong> !ru | vova_kobyzev
[11:52] <vova_kobyzev> good good
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> vova_kobyzev: cheers
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> !info konversation > lalalol_
[11:58] <RepRapDude> Short question: I don't have audio in adobe flash (latest flash, Kubuntu Jaunty), tried lots of things, where can I best ask (on IRC)??
[11:58] <WaltzingAlong> RepRapDude: because another program is running with the audio? such as amarok?
[11:59] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: not amarok, but there might be something. How can I determine this?
[12:00] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: My setup is slightly complicated, I have a USB soundcard (cmedia chipset) and onboard sound (to go to a receiver). However, neither work. I can use mplayer with -ao oss:/dev/dsp1, however.
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> RepRapDude: sometimes i have had success wrapping firefox with aoss. check out the alsa-oss package
[12:02] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: sounds good, do I just isnstall that?
[12:03]  * RepRapDude closes 32 tabs
[12:04] <WaltzingAlong> 32 tabs :D
[12:05] <RepRapDude> I apt-got alsa-oss... what's next? :)
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> $ aoss firefox &
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> then try a flash video in there
[12:08] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: it doesn't start firefox, the command doesn't give me anything back
[12:09] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: I guess I should configure a .asoundrc file?
[12:09] <WaltzingAlong> perhaps but ... not sure why firefox did not start
[12:10] <RepRapDude> ls -la `which firefox` gives me: /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.5
[12:13] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: It fails/hangs fairly early in starting firefox, I'll postbin an strace
[12:13] <WaltzingAlong> well ok. maybe the asoundrc file like you mentioned
[12:15] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: This is what the command does: http://pastebin.com/d2e1c6c02
[12:16] <RepRapDude> WaltzingAlong: Never mind, google chrome does start, so I can test with that. Sound doesn't work for chrome either
[12:16] <RepRapDude> If I fix it for chrome I can try firefox after that...
[12:17] <krabador> opinions on 4.4.0?
[12:20] <WaltzingAlong> krabador: what are you running now?
[12:21] <krabador> WaltzingAlong, 4.3.5
[12:27] <olenz> krabador: I like 4.4.0, and don't have any problems. I'm using it since first ports were available.
[12:40] <RepRapDude_> I fixed it by using the script that creates an .asoundrc for you!
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> RepRapDude_: great!
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> RepRapDude_: then feel free to remove alsa-oss
[12:43] <RepRapDude_> WaltzingAlong: Thanks for the support. You did point me to the solution, even though it was with the intention of letting me try something else :)
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> RepRapDude_: thanks for sharing credit ;)
[12:44] <RepRapDude_> This is where you can find the script (should someone else have the same problem): http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/.asoundrc
[12:50] <Lantizia> Hey are there any other KDE based distro's that use a Ubuntu base?
[12:51] <Lantizia> I just find the apps that Kubuntu comes with as default arn't all that up to much, and it's a bit of a mess
[12:51] <Vroomfondle> Not that I know of
[12:51] <EagleScreen> Lantizia: why do you need a Ubuntu base?
[12:51] <Vroomfondle> frankly, KDE-based distros in general are thin on the ground these days
[12:51] <Lantizia> Well I only know of Mint KDE
[12:52] <EagleScreen> Lantizia: have you tried OpenSuse? it is wonderful
[12:52] <Lantizia> I detest Novell
[12:52]  * Vroomfondle uses SuSE on his laptop, and it is rather good
[12:52] <Lantizia> Sorry but I just won't touch it
[12:53] <Lantizia> First thing I do on Ubuntu is get rid of Mono, F-Spot, TomBoy
[12:53] <Vroomfondle> then you're not going to succeed in your quest
[12:53] <EagleScreen> OpenSuse is free software, made by comunity, at least a major part
[12:53] <Lantizia> Does the GPLv3 affect SuSE or OpenSUSE then?
[12:54] <aapzak> fedora's effort on KDE appears to be quite good
[12:55] <Lantizia> Does perhaps any other DE use Qt?
[12:55] <aapzak> home laptop is running F12/KDE 4.3.5
[12:56] <aapzak> Lantizia: is qt your only wish? You could run qt apps on openbox ...
[12:56] <EagleScreen> you can run Qt apps in any OS and any DE
[12:56] <aapzak> many OS I'd say :)
[12:57] <EagleScreen> Qt4 apps are well integated on Win32, Gnome, KDE ...
[12:57] <aapzak> so Lantizia, what about that?
[12:58] <Lantizia> I'm not sure
[12:58] <Lantizia> I want to get in to Qt development more especially since my N900 is going that way, it's not LGPL and the Qt Creator looks ace
[12:58] <Lantizia> So I figured having a Qt DE would be a benefit too, get in to the general feel of the apps
[12:58] <aapzak> qt creator looks awesome indeed
[12:59] <Lantizia> *now LGPL
[12:59] <Lantizia> not not lol
[12:59] <EagleScreen> Lantizia: it seeks that Opensuse 11.2 is under GNU General Public License version 2
[13:00] <EagleScreen> Lantizia: you can learn Qt programming in any OS and any DE
[13:00] <aapzak> thats true
[13:00] <Lantizia> EagleScreen: so any more up to date tools from GNU under v3 can't be in SuSE products?
[13:01] <EagleScreen> yes they cna be, ofcourse
[13:01] <Lantizia> thought due to the MS & Novell collaboration and the new restrictions of GNU GPL v3 that Novell wouldn't use it
[13:02] <EagleScreen> i am not very documented about it
[13:02] <EagleScreen> why dont ask in #suse channel?
[13:03] <Lantizia> ok :)
[13:03] <toimisto> can i use gvts in kde?
[13:03] <aapzak> Lantizia: what is your goal? qt programming? who cares about the licences of your OS? It is a minor detail, at least in my opinion. Just start hacking!
[13:04] <aapzak> I mean it :) I see myself reinstalling all the time but its very counter productive. You're better of with just starting to hack right away
[13:07] <WaltzingAlong> aapzak: coders code. others type about all of the reasons why they are not coding. those are not coders
[13:07] <aapzak> tadaaaa
[13:08] <aapzak> tnx WaltzingAlong, no fun to realize but you're probably right :)
[13:08] <WaltzingAlong> well my being right does not get things coded either ;)
[13:08] <aapzak> :D
[13:21] <satepc> anyone on?
[13:26] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[13:36] <Lantizia> Hey... I really hate Kubuntu - wait there more... I hate it as it comes when you do a normal install
[13:36] <Lantizia> Any way I can just get like the basics... perhaps a kde-core ?
[13:39] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia, what is exactly your problem ??
[13:39] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia: something works wrong ?
[13:40] <Lantizia> No I just want the KDE desktop/bar/widgets/preferences
[13:40] <Lantizia> Not any of the silly applications that all have a K in them
[13:40] <Lantizia> They're all naff
[13:41] <Lantizia> thats a british term for... a bit crap
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> Lantizia: sure
[13:43] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia: what is shure, there is not "a better interface". It must fit you :D
[13:44] <Lantizia> nah I like the interface of KDE... just not the apps
[13:44] <Lantizia> but I like the ubuntu repositories too much to move from kubuntu
[13:45] <AzikaCorp> understand :), it looks pretty but it is heaver than gnome
[13:46] <rethus> when does new kde released?
[13:46] <rethus> and does kubuntu automaticly upgrade to new kde or have i to add special repos?
[13:46] <AzikaCorp> you have to add a special repos
[13:47] <AzikaCorp> and pray that nothing bad append  ^^
[13:47] <Lantizia> konquerer - naff, quassel - oh so naff... kmail/kontact - pretty naff
[13:47] <Lantizia> kopete, not bad - but a bit naff
[13:47] <Lantizia> krdc very nice :)
[13:47] <Lantizia> amarok - incomplete
[13:47] <Lantizia> and naff
[13:47] <AzikaCorp> in my case, I needed to reinstall "plasma-desktop"
[13:48] <AzikaCorp> which player do you use, I quite agree with you, except concerning amarok
[13:48] <AzikaCorp> :p
[13:48] <Lantizia> ark looks nice
[13:48] <rethus> AzikaCorp: what repos
[13:48] <Lantizia> amarok can't even write ogg comments - such a failure
[13:48] <Lantizia> i use songbird
[13:49] <rethus> and wwhy pray... does it so experimental?
[13:49] <AzikaCorp> no, but kde 4 is not yet in official kubuntu repo
[13:49] <Lantizia> i don't know why konquerer hasn't swapped to webkit yet - khtml has been surpassed
[13:50] <Lantizia> khtml doesn't even pass acid3 tests
[13:50] <AzikaCorp> Lantizia, I agree with you
[13:50] <rethus> AzikaCorp: if it becomes in official kubuntu-repo does it updatet automaticly or have i to add other repos?
[13:51] <rethus> i only wan't to use stable... but i doesn't want it like on suse before... there you have all the time your old kde... and only bugfixes..
[13:51] <AzikaCorp> to surf, I often switch with ff for plugin, opera my favorite one, and chromium (I surf speeder in my case)
[13:51] <issam> salu
[13:51] <issam> hi everyone
[13:51] <Lantizia> google chrome is to die for sometimes for speed
[13:51] <issam> hellp
[13:51] <issam> plzz can i ask u something
[13:51] <AzikaCorp> le salon francais => #kubuntu-fr :p
[13:51] <AzikaCorp> yes
[13:52] <issam> azika hi
[13:52] <issam> i'm a new user of linux
[13:52] <AzikaCorp> I cannot confirm that It will update automaticly
[13:52] <issam> and i want to install WLM & IE but i dunno how
[13:52] <Mamarok> !ask | issam
[13:52] <rethus> how can i make an distribution update
[13:52] <rethus> aptitude dist-update ?
[13:53] <AzikaCorp> rethus, yes
[13:53] <issam> ok sorry !!
[13:53] <rethus> dist-upgrade seems not to exist
[13:54] <AzikaCorp> I did it to install kd4.4 , after adding a reop
[13:56] <issam> how can i install WLM and IE ??
[13:57] <AzikaCorp> issam, IE !!! 0_O ?? :p. Just a question, why ?
[13:58] <AzikaCorp> WLM doesn't exist, you can try : emesene, kopete
[13:58] <issam> azika i use speaky web chat voice but it doesn't work with any navigator exept IE
[13:59] <AzikaCorp> issam, just crap ! you can try to install IE using wine ...
[13:59] <issam> ok sir thanx a lot (f)
[14:00] <AzikaCorp> I you sure that it work only with IE ?
[14:00] <lalalol_> !gloobus
[14:04] <cuznt> you can install ie with wine?
[14:04] <cuznt> there is one program site i must use IE with for my math....
[14:04] <Pici> !ies4linux
[14:05] <AzikaCorp> wine execute ".exe" file
[14:06] <cuznt> ty i complained that a help site geared for the itt-tech community should not just be IE. how un geeky
[14:22] <Guest16087> lol
[14:23] <kiraitachi> lol
[14:24] <snarkfish> anyone else having issues with flash?
[14:24] <snarkfish> i have no sound at all anymore.
[14:24] <kiraitachi> everyone in the beginning and same with sound..
[14:25] <snarkfish> any answers to how to fix it?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:25] <snarkfish> hi
[14:28] <snarkfish> and that is the end of that line of communication. LOL
[14:32] <kiraitachi> hi anyone can give me a hand?
[14:32] <kiraitachi> plz? i would like to add in quassel irc another network...
[14:33] <kiraitachi> but got no idea on how to do it..
[14:33] <robin0800> kiraitachi: Use file/ network /configure
[14:34] <kiraitachi> .ik.....
[14:34] <kiraitachi> done that...
[14:34] <kiraitachi> but when i add this network...:irc://irc.malvager.com/hackforums
[14:34] <robin0800> kiraitachi: Now add
[14:34] <kiraitachi> nothing happens...
[14:35] <kiraitachi> this is the site http://www.hackforums.net/
[14:35] <Vge> can i use gvts in kde?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> kiraitachi, which irc client are you using ?
[14:35] <robin0800> kiraitachi: remove /hackforums
[14:35] <kiraitachi> quassel IRC
[14:36] <kiraitachi> the one that comes up with kubuntu
[14:36] <BluesKaj> this  :irc://irc.malvager.com/hackforums ,connects with konversation irc client
[14:36] <robin0800> kiraitachi: for server you just want irc://irc.malvager.com
[14:37] <kiraitachi> ok
[14:37] <snarkster> man this is killing me.. I watch my tv shows on hulu and without sound in flash i cant watch my show..
[14:37] <olskolirc> I need a desktop recorder recordmydesktop isn't in my menu and when I type it, it tell me to use --no-sound and I don't even know where my file went - I want a recorder that take the sound as well with a gui
[14:37] <robin0800> kiraitachi: ignore the first part irc// not needed
[14:38] <kiraitachi> ok done now connects but says this
[14:38] <kiraitachi> a ok
[14:39] <robin0800> kiraitachi: now join a channel #channel
[14:40] <kiraitachi> ok got it thanks guys
[14:42] <BluesKaj> snarkster, alt+f2, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list ,and remove all#'s in front of urls starting with deb , then sudo apt-get up date , then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras flashplugin-nonfree
[14:43] <BluesKaj> err ,sudo apt-get update
[14:43] <mefisto__> olskolirc: try xvidcap. lots of options to choose different codecs, etc
[14:44] <olskolirc> thanks mefisto__
[14:46] <snarkster> thanx Blueskaj
[14:46] <snarkster> ill give that a try
[14:46] <snarkster> this kinda problem will deffinately keep people from using linux.
[14:47] <snarkster> brb rebooting
[14:52] <snarkfish> after restarting i got this nice little window telling me that hda analog sound isnt working falling back to pulseaudio
[14:54] <snarkfish> still no sound in hulu or youtube
[14:55] <snarkfish> man this VERY aggrevating
[14:55] <snarkfish> it used to work just fine...
[14:56] <BluesKaj> snarkfish, install libdvdcss2
[14:56] <AltrortlA> Hello... I have a internet connection on a XP home PC and I'd like to share this connection with a Kubuntu 9.04 PC (SOME TIPS?)
[14:57] <snarkfish> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> AltrortlA, how are you going to  share this connection, thru a router or modem or ?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | snarkfish
[14:59] <AltrortlA> BluesKaj: I got a internet connection trought a Mobile Modem UMTS
[15:00] <snarkfish> ah crapper!!. i was already dloading the new 115 updates. when i tried to add the medibuntu repo.. did this break anything?
[15:01] <wizkoder> snarkfish: did you already install "ubuntu restricted extras" and "kubuntu restricted extras"?
[15:01] <snarkfish> i installed the kubuntu restricted not the ububntu
[15:02] <AltrortlA> BluesKaj: then the PC (an XP Home) is conneted to the Eth LAN and have a Secondary ip configured (this is to let that DHPC assign the IP ....
[15:02] <snarkfish> 5 min till the 115 are done then ill do the medibuntu and the ubuntu
[15:03] <AltrortlA> BluesKaj: in this moment smb4k do not see the line, (before I have no secondary IP, but just DHPC, and I was able to see and shere trought the line)...
[15:03] <BluesKaj> AltrortlA, is there more than one ethernet port on the modem ?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> I have to leave for a few mins ...bbl
[15:05] <flacoste> hi there
[15:05] <AltrortlA> BluesKaj: is a Mobile ... it is conneted directly to XP PC with its cable (USB)
[15:05] <flacoste> i've updated to KDE 4.4.0 through the backport PPA
[15:06] <flacoste> and the system tray doesn't work anymore
[15:06] <flacoste> skype, amarok, choqok don't appear in it
[15:06] <AzikaCorp> you have a black screen right :) ?
[15:06] <AzikaCorp> flacoste: but you can move you cursor and lauch app with ALT+F2 right ?
[15:06] <flacoste> AzikaCorp: yes
[15:07] <flacoste> also, on login it complains that neomopuk wasn't started
[15:07] <bigjools> flacoste: I was going to update to 4.4, maybe I won't now :)
[15:07] <AzikaCorp> install plasma-desktop
[15:08] <AzikaCorp> I add the same problem , installing plasma-desktop sloved it
[15:10] <anoneemouse> HI. I upgraded to kde 4.4 and now i keep getting an error: Nepomuk needs the virtuoso rdf server to store its data
[15:15] <mefisto__> AzikaCorp: plasma-desktop wasn't installed? or did you reinstall it?
[15:16] <anoneemouse> should i install virtuoso?
[15:16] <anoneemouse> if so which version/package?
[15:16] <mefisto__> anoneemouse: virtuoso-nepomuk
[15:17] <AzikaCorp> mefisto__: it wasn't install after the upgrade
[15:17] <anoneemouse> did kpackagekit change? the sidebar and settings seem to be missing
[15:18] <AzikaCorp> mefisto__: so I installed plasma-desktopthemes-artwork, and plasma-desktop
[15:21] <poyntz> hi
[15:21] <poyntz> kubuntu karmic doesn't recognise my iphone.. help
[15:21] <poyntz> - ubuntu (gnome) did
[15:22] <poyntz> when i connect an ipod it kdm gives me an option for gwen view or dolphin to browse the device. with the iphone it shows nothing...
[15:23] <AzikaCorp> poyntz: when you type fdisk -l , do you see your iphone ?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> AltrortlA, sorry , I don't know anything about connecting a mobile phone to internet thru a pc
[15:27] <genii> !tether
[15:27] <genii> Hm
[15:28] <shadeslayer> AltrortlA: yeah i tried that.... you can connect the laptop to the internet via a phone... not the other way round
[15:28] <shadeslayer> genii: its not possible :P
[15:29] <BluesKaj> guys , I'm not sure that's what he meant , when ppl talk about a mobile I assume it's aphone
[15:29] <snarkfish> well he did say tether didnt he?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i would guess that too...
[15:29] <BluesKaj> I'm old i just my cellphone for phone calls and the odd text message
[15:30] <BluesKaj> use
[15:30] <flacoste> AzikaCorp: plasma-desktop is already installed
[15:31] <snarkfish> do i need to reboot the system or just restart firefox to see if i have sound in hulu or youtube?
[15:31] <AzikaCorp> flacoste: alright, you seems to have another problem
[15:31] <BluesKaj> restart FF , snarkfish
[15:31] <AzikaCorp> flacoste: what exactly doesn'nt work ?
[15:32] <flacoste> some apps don't register in the system tray
[15:32] <flacoste> well, all the ones that i normally use
[15:32] <flacoste> konversation, skype, chopok, amarok
[15:32] <AzikaCorp> can you see your systray ?
[15:33] <flacoste> yes
[15:33] <AzikaCorp> flacoste: strange
[15:33] <flacoste> there is kmix, the printer, korganizer and the notification applet in it
[15:33] <soon> I've spent HOURS trying to connect to my workplace MS Exchange server with Evolution. I can connect via firefox (web-interface) and via my iPhone, but not via Evolution: couldn't communicate with gnome keyring daemon via dbus ...The name org.gnome.keyring was not provided by any .service files ... e-data-server-ui-Message: Key file does not have group 'Passwords-Exchange'
[15:33] <soon> any suggestions?
[15:34] <mefisto__> flacoste: and there are no hidden icons in systray?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> soon: i think you would get a better answer at #ubuntu
[15:34] <soon> fair enough ... I'll try that (I am running Kubuntu though :-) )
[15:34] <flacoste> mefisto__: you mean when i click the triangle?
[15:34] <flacoste> no
[15:35] <flacoste> if i click it, it hides some of those i mentioned
[15:35] <chuckf> soon: you may want to try either #ubuntu, #evolution, or #gnome as Evolution is not a KDE program
[15:35] <flacoste> the apps show only in the taskbar
[15:35] <soon> thx
[15:36] <BluesKaj> flacoste, as they should , some apps need to be configured from within themselves to appear in the system tray
[15:37] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: but skype and amarok? I guess amarok has upgraded and settings may have changed, but skype should still appear in systray at least
[15:37] <pushax> how to I upgrade to KDE SC 4.4
[15:38] <flacoste> BluesKaj: they are all configured
[15:38] <flacoste> it was working before the upgrade
[15:38] <pushax> arrr PPA backports..
[15:39] <pushax> Is KDE SC4.4 jsut the next version up or a special social networking version?
[15:39] <mefisto__> flacoste: I had odd problems with my panel after upgrade (not just systray) and I renamed ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc and logged in again. that resolved the weirdness for me
[15:39] <tsimpson> pushax: SC == Software Compilation
[15:40] <poyntz> AzikaCorp: nothing. also if i type lsusb i don't get anything either...
[15:40] <pushax> poyntz:what does that mean for average KDE users???
[15:40] <pushax> poyntz: what does that mean for average KDE users???
[15:40] <tsimpson> pushax: it's the "new" name for what we normally call KDE
[15:40] <AzikaCorp> poyntz: strange
[15:40] <tsimpson> KDE is a community, KDE SC is the product
[15:40] <pushax> tsimpson: arr ok. another confusing acronym
[15:41] <poyntz> AzikaCorp: yaa. if the comp doesn't recognise it i wudn't hav a clue how to fix it... :/
[15:41] <pushax> tsimpson: so it's recommended to upgrade from 3.4 to get extra features?
[15:41] <poyntz> AzikaCorp: but like i said. it was picked up on gdm
[15:42] <mefisto__> pushax: the idea I think is that KDE is more than just the desktop - it's lots of other software too, that isn't necessarily tied to the KDE desktop
[15:42] <tsimpson> KDE SC 4.4 is the next major release from KDE 4.3
[15:42] <tsimpson> (the SC is particularly important now KDE apps can run on Windows and Mac OSX now)
[15:42] <pushax> tsimpson: yeah my mistake writing 3.4.  I have 4.3.5
[15:43] <AzikaCorp> poyntz: replug your iphone and have a look to "dmesg".
[15:43] <AzikaCorp> poyntz: Do you see something ?
[15:43] <pushax> tsimpson: so to get new SC 4.4 goto launchpad and get repository?
[15:43] <flacoste> mefisto__: ok, about to try that
[15:44] <tsimpson> pushax: you don't need to go to launchpad, just add the ppa repository and update
[15:44] <pushax> mefisto__: cool
[15:44] <tsimpson> see the topic for instructions
[15:44] <pushax> tsimpson: can you paste that repository
[15:44] <tsimpson> see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4
[15:48] <blphgr> mates
[15:48] <pushax> tsimpson: wow getting heaps of updates since I added 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu  karmic main'
[15:48] <bazhang> blphgr, hi
[15:48] <pushax> THANKS ALL.  Night...
[15:48] <blphgr> bazhang, hi
[15:49] <blphgr> my firefox just crashed twice
[15:50] <blphgr> fix it please
[15:52] <blphgr> I need commercial support, right now, I pay 500$
[15:52] <ikonia> canonical.com for comercial support
[15:52] <blphgr> they told me to look up the ubuntu irc channels
[15:52] <AzikaCorp> firefox is heavy, use chromium or opera
[15:52] <arcade> Trying to get wireless to work on a samsung X420, with Kubuntu 9.10.  The box has a Intel WiFi 5100 chipset.
[15:53] <arcade> .. but I cannot seem to get it to work.
[15:53] <tsimpson> blphgr: if you have commercial support, I suggest you use it
[15:53] <blphgr> I using firefox because opera and chromium chrashed more than just twice
[15:53] <arcade> iwlist wlan0 scanning shows the accesspoint (so does knetworkmanager), but I cannot seem to connect.
[15:53] <ikonia> arcade: intel normally has good support, where ar eyou up to
[15:53] <arcade> ikonia: Hm?
[15:53] <ikonia> arcade: ok so you know the cards there as iwlist works, but it just can't hit the access point
[15:53] <blphgr> hi ikonia
[15:53] <AzikaCorp> blphgr: a problem with flash player ?
[15:53] <ikonia> arcade: nothing like mac address blocking on the access point ?
[15:54] <arcade> ikonia: It can find the access point, but .. it doesn't send any packets (according to ifconfig, no rx or tx packets).
[15:54] <arcade> ikonia: Nope.
[15:54] <arcade> ikonia: No packets leaving the box as far as I can tell with tcpdump -nli wlan0
[15:54] <ikonia> arcade: have you configured the encyption ?
[15:54] <blphgr> yes flash is always a problem
[15:54] <arcade> ikonia: Yeps.
[15:54] <arcade> ikonia: (And I would expect to see incoming packets with the tcpdump, albeit encrypted).
[15:54] <ikonia> arcade: can you do a dhclient on the device ?
[15:55] <ikonia> do you see any packages then ?
[15:55] <ikonia> packets even
[15:55] <arcade> ikonia: I can try.  Just rebooting the box again now.
[15:56] <arcade> ikonia: I'm not entirely sure now.. how do I use dhclient before associating with the access point?    I've tried with iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> key <key> .. but that doesn't seem to work.
[15:59] <poyntz> AzikaCorp: can't find anything
[15:59] <AzikaCorp> is your iphone switch on ? ^^
[15:59] <poyntz> you mean is my iphone turned on?
[16:00] <lalalol_> who can help me with gloobus?
[16:01] <AltrortlA_> Heilà.... done ........................................ :-))))
[16:02] <anoneemouse> for some weird reason my soundcard started working normally in kubuntu after i did an update the other night
[16:02] <anoneemouse> :) now i can listens to music!!!
[16:02] <AzikaCorp> anoneemouse: have fun :)
[16:02] <AltrortlA_> configured interfaces for samba client...
[16:03] <mefisto__> anoneemouse: probably something to do with the updates :P
[16:03] <anoneemouse> mefisto__: it must be, it is odd though... this is probably the first time in my life that im using linux and everything is working
[16:04] <flacoste> mefisto__: removing plasmarc didn't change anything
[16:04] <arcade> ikonia: Also, link quality / signal level / noise level are all equal to 0.
[16:05] <arcade> ikonia: But when I use iwlist wlan0 scanning it says quality 70/70 and signal level=-28 dBm.
[16:05] <mefisto__> flacoste: did you get all the updates? did all the packages configure? try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:06] <flacoste> mefisto__: i did, dpkg --cojnfigure -a does nothing
[16:06] <flacoste> i removed and re-added the system tray
[16:06] <flacoste> still the same icons in there
[16:07] <flacoste> and not the apps
[16:07] <mefisto__> anoneemouse: btw, what soundcard was not working?
[16:08] <mefisto__> flacoste: do you have another user to test? maybe create a new user if not, and see if you have the same systray problem
[16:11] <drag> i uninstalled my sound driver (alsa) and now when i start pc kubuntu says that no driver found for my sound blaster vx1.. please tell eme how to reinstall it or get sound driver back :(
[16:11] <krivedko> всем привет)
[16:11] <bazhang> !ru | krivedko
[16:12] <drag> any one ?? :(
[16:13] <drag> ??
[16:14] <AzikaCorp> do you heard sound ?
[16:14] <AzikaCorp> drag: or nothing
[16:15] <drag> before this happened ther was no sound at that time too .. but when i tested my snd card in control panel .. it sounded like a white noise .. i sollowed some steps given to solve that on other forum ..and i mistakenly uninstalled my drivers :(
[16:16] <drag> *followed
[16:19] <drag> AzikaCorp: any solution ?? :(
[16:21] <drag> ??
[16:21] <AzikaCorp> how did you uninstall it
[16:21] <AzikaCorp> drag: do you remember the name of the drivers ?
[16:22] <drag> well i think they were inbuilt .. alsa driver was being used at that time .. and in hardware settings it showed my creative sound card " sound blaster vx1 " :)
[16:23] <[-Haza-]> Anyone use KEEP? Backup tool?
[16:23] <harjot> yup
[16:23] <harjot> used to
[16:24] <harjot> [-Haza-]: why?
[16:25] <[-Haza-]> harjot: okay, can i ping you about it when i get back. Have to nip out for about 320 minutes
[16:25] <[-Haza-]> umm
[16:25] <[-Haza-]> *30 minutes
[16:25] <harjot> [-Haza-]: i need to go
[16:25] <harjot> [-Haza-]: for about an hour to 2 hours soz
[16:25] <[-Haza-]> harjot: No worries :_)
[16:27] <drag> ?? :(
[16:29] <Brazucka> Hi there. I am trying to setup a Ubuntu - Vista lan without success. Could anyone help me, please? I am not able to ping Vista machine from Ubuntu.
[16:30] <mefisto__> drag: sudo apt-get install alsa-base
[16:30] <drag> k lemme try :)
[16:31] <drag> it says :
[16:31] <drag> Reading package lists... Done
[16:31] <drag> Building dependency tree
[16:31] <drag> Reading state information... Done
[16:31] <drag> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[16:31] <drag> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 219 not upgraded.
[16:31] <FloodBotK3> drag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:31] <nonameNN> Brazucka: u should check the cables man...
[16:32] <arcade> ikonia: Finally got it to work :D
[16:32] <Brazucka> nonameNN: I did. With different cables.
[16:32] <Brazucka> nonameNN: And Vista can ping Ubuntu machine
[16:32] <nonameNN> Brazucka: configure both computer to use dhcp
[16:34] <Brazucka> nonameNN: Ok, let me try it.
[16:34] <mefisto__> drag: got a few upgrades waiting
[16:34] <snarkfish> BluesKaj: Not that you are worried about this or not, but still no sound from flash apps..
[16:34] <mefisto__> drag: what did you uninstall exactly?
[16:35] <drag> actuly i was following a post on  how to reinstall alsa from sratch :-|
[16:35] <drag> it asked me to install oss first so i uninstalled alsa and installed oss
[16:35] <mefisto__> drag: and how did you uninstall alsa?
[16:35] <nonameNN> Brazucka: do that and try to ping again
[16:36] <drag> then there was instruction if still sound is not coming then install alsa from scratch .. and from then i cant install alas again and  no sound is ther too :|
[16:36] <drag> only pulse audio is listed now all other drivers are listed grey colored
[16:36] <Brazucka> nonameNN:ok
[16:36] <mefisto__> drag: so how did you uninstall alsa?
[16:36] <drag> i think i black listed it somewhere :D
[16:37] <drag> and i dunno know where as m noob hehe :)
[16:38] <mefisto__> drag: do you have a link for the instructions you were following? was the blacklisting in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[16:38] <drag> well i forgot the link acutalyy but yeah it was modeprobe ..something :)
[16:39] <drag> *actually
[16:40] <mefisto__> drag: browser history?
[16:40] <drag> chking that waitz :)
[16:41] <drag> here u go this is the link i was folllowing :    http://www.megacomputers.com.my/version2/content/making-sound-blaster-51vx-work-ubuntu
[16:44] <drag> here is what i get in multimedia settings : http://sites.google.com/site/piccolodbz35/snapshot1.png?attredirects=0
[16:46] <mefisto__> drag: if you select pulseaudio and click the test button, do you get any sound?
[16:46] <drag> no i dont get any sound from pulseaudio :(
[16:49] <neptune_> does anyone know why apt-get install freeglut-dev doesn't work for me?
[16:51] <anoneemouse> will virtuoso constantly eat ~20% cpu?
[16:51] <Torch> anoneemouse: no.
[16:51] <anoneemouse> only while strigi is indexing?
[16:51] <drag> ???
[16:53] <drag> neptune_ : tried running apt-get upgrade ? :)
[16:54] <mefisto__> drag: did you actually delete anything from blacklist.conf ?
[16:54] <neptune_> doing it now drag
[16:55] <drag> mefisto__ : no i dindt del any thing form there :)
[16:55] <drag> *didnt
[16:57] <Brazucka> nonameNN: No ping. Not even unreachable host, this time.
[16:57] <mefisto__> drag: so what did you actually do? I'm confused
[16:57] <nonameNN> Brazucka: u configured them with dhcp and restarted?
[16:59] <drag> well as in the link i gave i followed step till oss driver installation and then i rebooted to see if oss works fine .. as i restared it showed me that if i want kubuntu to forget about uninstalled drivers :( and the data in that windows was similiar to the one pic i gave the link for
[16:59] <Brazucka> nonameNN: I did not restart.
[16:59] <nonameNN> Brazucka: restart them and check again
[16:59] <nonameNN> !network | Brazucka
[17:00] <Brazucka> ubottu: I am trying to run a wired network to an Ubuntu - Vista share. ;)
[17:01] <[-Haza-]> So folks... How do i set a time and such for the KEEp backup utility to do a backup automatically?
[17:02] <lalalol_> who can help me with Gloobus?
[17:02] <mefisto__> drag: so you did step 2 and rebooted?
[17:02] <drag> yah :D to chk if oss working
[17:05] <mefisto__> drag: so you followed that link in step 2 and followed those instructions?
[17:06] <drag> yah after i rebooted i tried to do the commands given in that link and reinstalled alsa-base  but still no sound
[17:06] <drag> :(
[17:06] <drag> cant i reinstall the alsa and make it work ??
[17:06] <mefisto__> drag: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base   and choose ALSA (we tried installing alsa, but you said it was already installed)
[17:07] <drag> k lmm chk :)
[17:08] <drag> its showing screen with three options .. alsa oss and default
[17:08] <AzikaCorp> install alsa-utils , alsa-base
[17:08] <mefisto__> drag: choose alsa
[17:08] <drag> k
[17:08] <drag> done
[17:08] <drag> ow ?
[17:08] <drag> *now
[17:08] <drag> ?
[17:08] <FloodBotK3> drag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <mefisto__> drag: now install what AzikaCorp said
[17:08] <drag> ok
[17:09] <mefisto__> drag: sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-utils alsa-base
[17:09] <drag> done
[17:09] <jame> hi all
[17:09] <drag> now ?
[17:09] <AzikaCorp> jame: hi
[17:10] <mefisto__> drag: reboot and cross fingers :)
[17:10] <lalalol_> my sound is freaking out!!! help!!!
[17:10] <AzikaCorp> drag: did you install alsa-base and alsa-utils ?
[17:10] <drag> hehe :D okz hope it gets confgured properly :)
[17:10] <jame> how to enabled voice & video chat with gmail?
[17:10] <lalalol_> help plz!! its urgent!!!!
[17:12] <Brazucka> nonameNN: I cannot even get a connection now.
[17:12] <lalalol_> HELP
[17:12] <nonameNN> !lan
[17:12] <lalalol_> my sound is freaking out
[17:13] <nonameNN> !network
[17:13] <lalalol_> it mixes all the sound of the music and it sounds messed up
[17:13] <nonameNN> !ethernet
[17:13] <nonameNN> Brazucka: try ini that page
[17:13] <Brazucka> !network
[17:13] <drag> back :)
[17:14] <drag> sound configured but
[17:14] <drag> again the same thing :(
[17:14] <drag> white noise is all i get
[17:14] <drag> :P
[17:14] <Brazucka> nonameNN: Sorry, what page?
[17:14] <daskreech> lalalol_: Do you have pulseaudio?
[17:14] <daskreech>  what do you mean they are mixed up/?
[17:14] <lalalol_> whats that daskreech?
[17:14] <lalalol_> im listening to a song
[17:14] <nonameNN>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs there should be some link to another web with info about ethernet connections
[17:14] <drag> mefisto__: ??
[17:14] <mefisto__> drag: ok, so that was the original problem before you found that guide you linked to?
[17:14] <lalalol_> and it sounds completely different
[17:15] <lalalol_> some tunes are in the wrong place
[17:15] <daskreech> lalalol_: As in not that song?
[17:15] <drag> yep .. again back to that :(
[17:15] <lalalol_> im listening via youtube
[17:15] <lalalol_> no
[17:15] <Brazucka> nonameNN: ok
[17:15] <daskreech> lalalol_: Ah Umm
[17:15] <daskreech> can you play a song from your computer?
[17:15] <lalalol_> as in: tunes getting switched from their respective places :S
[17:15] <lalalol_> yes
[17:15] <lalalol_> thats what im doing...
[17:16] <drag> mefisto__: any solution to remove this white noise ?? :(
[17:16] <daskreech> Oh You jsut said it was from youtube
[17:16] <lalalol_> ill try with a songfile on my HDD
[17:17] <daskreech> That's what I meant :)
[17:17] <nonameNN> Brazucka: wait ill give you some webpage
[17:18] <nonameNN> Brazucka: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html or https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[17:18] <lalalol_> daskreech, thank god, it works with a file
[17:18] <lalalol_> daskreech, so its the fault of flash i think
[17:18] <daskreech> lalalol_: Yeah that's what I was going to postulate
[17:18] <lalalol_> whats postulate?
[17:18] <Brazucka> nonameNN: Thank you
[17:18] <drag> mefisto__: ?? :(
[17:18] <daskreech> Sometimes due to how the Flash was put together it has some crazy CPU spikes which mess up the underlying streams
[17:18] <daskreech> lalalol_: put forward as an idea
[17:19] <mefisto__> drag: do you have windows on this machine?
[17:19] <lalalol_> stupid flash
[17:19] <daskreech> Go HTML5
[17:19] <drag> yah i had actuly .. before i installed kubuntu i was on windows only .. and this sound card worked on that xp .. so  i think firmware is initialized already
[17:19] <lalalol_> daskreech, how?
[17:20] <daskreech> lalalol_: how what?
[17:20] <lalalol_> "go html5"
[17:20] <mefisto__> drag: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1104738    says there that if you boot into windows, then reboot into k/ubuntu it works without the noise
[17:20] <drag> mefisto__ :  but i have already done this when i was on xp
[17:21] <zyxon> hello. Is there a version of Kubuntu 9.10 available with the older version of KDE?
[17:22] <lalalol_> im gonna try html5 on YT
[17:22] <lalalol_> woah it works
[17:22] <zyxon> Older version I mean 3.*
[17:23] <drag> mefisto__: any other solution ?
[17:23] <lalalol_> daskreech, will i use html5 on every site now? or just on YT?
[17:24] <daskreech> lalalol_: if you want. it your choice :)
[17:24] <lalalol_> daskreech, i opted for the html5 beta on yt, will it also count on other sites or not?
[17:24] <daskreech> Well at some point it won't be a choice everyone will just do it but for now...
[17:25] <daskreech> lalalol_: Oh no each site will choose when they will move to that
[17:25] <daskreech> A lot will though
[17:25] <daskreech> it's a lot nicer
[17:25] <mefisto__> drag: dunno. seems it's a driver problem with your soundcard. do you have another soundcard? onboard?
[17:25] <lalalol_> yeah, but a question, yt is working now, but when i right click on the video it says about adobe flash player 10, so its playing with flash? :S
[17:25] <drag> yah its intel onboard chip :| but isn't alive anyomre :P
[17:25] <drag> *anymore
[17:26] <Torch> zyxon: try here: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ -- this is entirely unsupported and will probably go down in flames for you.
[17:26] <mefisto__> drag: as in, dead, does not work at all?
[17:26] <Torch> zyxon: also, kde4 is great.
[17:26] <lalalol_> daskreech, ?
[17:26] <drag> mefisto__: yeah :D dead totally
[17:26] <drag> mefisto__: thats why i baught this  one :D
[17:27] <daskreech> lalalol_: Possibly depends on the video
[17:27] <daskreech> Youtube cannot change all the videos at one time
[17:27] <lalalol_> ok daskreech, thx man
[17:27] <daskreech> !kde3
[17:27] <lalalol_> daskreech, wanna help me with something else?
[17:27] <daskreech> Hmm that needs updating
[17:27] <zyxon> Torch: thanks a lot.
[17:27] <daskreech> lalalol_: If I can
[17:27] <lalalol_> ok daskreech, its about Gloobus
[17:28] <drag> mefisto__: so it means i gotta install windows again ?? :(
[17:29] <daskreech> What's gloobus?
[17:31] <mefisto__> drag: don't know if it will work, just going by that forum post
[17:31] <drag> mefisto__: me too doing that .. :)
[17:31] <mefisto__> drag: ideally, find a patched driver for your card, or get a different card (perhaps avoid creative)
[17:32] <mefisto__> drag: creative may have a linux driver on their website, but I doubt it
[17:32] <drag> mefisto__: no they dont :(
[17:33] <drag> mefisto__ : http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-October/011333.html chk it and tel me if any solution from this :)
[17:34] <mefisto__> drag: yeah I saw that. it would involve compiling the driver from source, with those changes
[17:34] <drag> hmm where to get that source i cantry compiling :)
[17:37] <mefisto__> drag: what is your card again? X-Fi ?
[17:37] <drag> SB vx 1
[17:39] <mefisto__> drag: I'm looking here: http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html
[17:39] <drag> mefisto__ : kk lmm chk too :)
[17:50] <PsychoMari0> how come installing pidgin in kubuntu asks for loads of gnome stuff, but when i installed it in opensuse KDE it didnt?
[17:51] <daskreech> Opensuse ships with a lot of Gnome libs or Ubuntu (quite likely) makes Pidgin as Gnome dependent as possible
[17:51] <PsychoMari0> ok, anyone got any recommendations for a client that does IRC MSN and Facebook chat? kopete wouldnt connect to my msn, and it doesn have IRC
[17:51] <genii> !pm | Gamrok
[17:52] <daskreech> PsychoMari0: try installing Pidgin with --no-reccomends
[17:52] <PsychoMari0> daskreech: how would i do that?
[17:53] <daskreech> command line
[17:54] <PsychoMari0> i dont see an option in the apt-get help...
[17:54] <PsychoMari0> ah, got it
[17:54] <PsychoMari0> apt-get --no-install-reccommends
[17:55] <mefisto__> drag: might want to bookmark this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting  there's a section there about compiling alsa drivers, if you decide to try that route
[17:55] <PsychoMari0> nope that doesnt work, still wants to install loads of gnome stuff
[17:55] <daskreech> PsychoMari0: Bleah
[17:56] <drag> mefisto__: thanx.. i also got source for oss will try compiling that too :)
[17:57] <lalalol_> who can help me with gloobus?
[18:00] <genii> lalalol_: Gloobus is for Gnome desktop, not KDE
[18:01] <lalalol_> genii, but i want something like gloobus
[18:02] <mefisto__> there's preview in kde4, but it doesn't work any more for me :(
[18:03] <drag> mefisto__: hey have a look http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=92c003a27f5f796d1498171dbd5b1ade277a146a
[18:03] <drag> mefisto__ : is it ok ? :)
[18:04] <lalalol_> mefisto__, yeah there is, but its not as nice as Gloobus
[18:05] <genii> lalalol_: They have a channel here on freenode, #gloobus
[18:05] <lalalol_> i know genii, im in it
[18:08] <zeyo81> hola
[18:09] <mefisto__> drag: most of it is over my head, but it looks like a driver is being used for your onboard sound. disable the onboard sound in your bios settings if possible, since it doesn't work
[18:10] <drag> mefisto__: ok :) i will do.. well thanx for all your help man you awesome ;) .. bye
[18:11] <flacoste> wow, my systray problem just suddenly fixed itself!
[18:19] <lalalol_> who has knowledge about wine?
[18:20] <lalalol_> !wine
[18:21] <mefisto__> flacoste: how? on login? reboot?
[18:26] <drag> mefisto__: hey i downloaded the source code of alsa driver and added the lines as there are on this link .. :http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-October/011333.html  my sound card number is sb1071 but dont know the serial number is there any way to get it ? :(
[18:26] <daskreech> lalalol_: #winehq
[18:26] <lalalol_> im in it daskreech
[18:27] <flacoste> mefisto__: no, i just went for lunch, and then click on the panel when i came back and it just switched back to working
[18:27] <flacoste> very odd
[18:29] <mefisto__> drag: not sure, but try    lspci | grep -i creative   and    lshw -c multimedia
[18:29] <drag> mefisto__: k
[18:30] <drag> mefisto__: it says grep : no such file or directory
[18:30] <mefisto__> drag: this is a single command: lspci | grep -i creative
[18:31] <BluesKaj> drag, why do you need a serial # ?
[18:31] <drag> yah i copy pasted it but still saying  the same : grep: and: No such file or directory
[18:31] <drag> grep: lshw: No such file or directory
[18:31] <drag> grep: multimedia: No such file or directory
[18:31] <Tresmius> Hey I just installed KDE, I was using gnome before
[18:31] <WaltzingAlong> Tresmius: welcome
[18:31] <Tresmius> There is no desktop however, just a background and a terminal
[18:32] <Tresmius> <- newbie
[18:32] <WaltzingAlong> Tresmius: and you installed the kubuntu-desktop package?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> drag, aplay -l
[18:32] <drag> BluesKaj: actuly i have added those 4 lines in the driver source of alsa-base  ... in ca0106_main.c so there it needs serial number of the card :D
[18:32] <Tresmius> I hope so
[18:33] <Tresmius> well yes
[18:33] <Tresmius> I'll try that in the terminal now to make sure
[18:33] <Tresmius> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[18:33] <Tresmius> yeah
[18:34] <Tm_T> Tresmius: you have to select KDE in login menu as session
[18:34] <WaltzingAlong> Tresmius: ok and then at the login screen .. .^^
[18:34] <Tresmius> k >.<
[18:34] <drag> mefisto__: ??
[18:34] <Tresmius> and how do I logout? :O
[18:35] <Tm_T> Tresmius: write "exit" in that terminal
[18:35] <Tresmius> yeah
[18:35] <Tresmius> it suggested that when i tried logout
[18:35] <Tresmius> but all it did was close the terminal
[18:35] <WaltzingAlong> Tresmius: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[18:35] <Tresmius> nothing
[18:36] <Tm_T> Tresmius: if you rightclick somewhere in the screen, do you get any menu?
[18:37] <Tresmius> only at the top
[18:37] <Tm_T> ok, there's "exit" in that menu?
[18:37] <mefisto__> drag: copy/paste the whole thing, including the | symbol -->   lspci | grep -i creative    <--
[18:37] <Tresmius> nope
[18:38] <mefisto__> drag: the other command is:  lshw -c multimedia
[18:39] <mefisto__> drag: and BluesKaj's command should give you similar info:  aplay -l
[18:39] <Tresmius> File > close window logged me out though
[18:39] <Tresmius> thanks for the help :-)
[18:40] <drag> mefisto__ : got every info but not serial number .. lolz :P
[18:42] <TIM_48> Hi, amyone speaks portuguese and can help me?
[18:43] <TIM_48> How do I DCC download files qith Quassel???
[18:44] <drag> mefisto__: hey i have compiled the alsa-driver ... do i need to again reconfigure the drivers ?? o_O
[18:44] <takis___> what's the solution of this problem after update?
[18:44] <takis___> http://pastebin.com/m5dc8559
[18:46] <TIM_48> Any1 can help me? How do I DCC download files (.mp3) qith Quassel???
[18:49] <drag> mefisto__: ??
[18:51] <genii> TIM_48: Quassel doesn't yet have that feature
[18:52] <Ultraputz> hello all
[18:53] <TIM_48> Thanks genii....Do you know any other Kubuntu/KDE IRC client that allows DCC downloads?
[18:53] <Ultraputz> presently having an issue where kicker and panel appear as... grids
[18:53] <Ultraputz> can't see anyhting
[18:53] <Ultraputz> i can click to open the kicker, but it's just a rectangle filled with a multi-colored grid, like the panel. desktop and upper-right menu are fine
[18:54] <genii> TIM_48: Konversation
[18:54] <TIM_48> Thanks once more genii....
[18:55] <Ultraputz> any idea on how to proceed?
[18:56] <Ultraputz> also: gnome works just fine on the same box -- no display issues, etc.
[18:58] <mefisto__> drag: not sure. refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#ALSA%20driver%20Compilation or maybe someone else could advise you
[18:58] <drag> mefisto__ : ok thankx for this help man ;)
[19:02] <Ultraputz> here's a screenshot of my issue: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4186/kdewtf.png
[19:11] <RelookNA> hi guyz!
[19:11] <Tresmius> why hello there
[19:24] <somekool> !kubuntu tasks list
[19:32] <binarylooks_> I am on a netbook wtih kubuntu lucid. since a few days, my windows have titlebars again (they should be alwys maximized with no titlebars)
[19:32] <binarylooks_> when I do kin --replace from konsole, the titlebars disappear for a second and then reappear again:
[19:32] <binarylooks_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/377834/
[19:32] <binarylooks_> anybody got an idea?
[19:33] <FloodBotK3> binarylooks_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <jimmy51_> does anyone recommend running antivirus software under kubuntu?
[19:48] <jimmy51_> i never have
[19:49] <jimmy51_> !virus
[19:49] <Vroomfondle> jimmy51_: not really much point unless you want to run a fileserver which will be used by Windows hosts
[19:50] <Vroomfondle> though I expect that, eventually, someone will find a way to release a really nasty virus under Linux. No software is perfect.
[19:50] <jimmy51_> ah, ok
[19:57] <WaltzingAlong> Vroomfondle: viruses exist
[19:58] <WaltzingAlong> jimmy51_: i have clamav installed for when connecting hard drives from windows, scanning then to clean things
[21:07] <mefisto__>  questions about nepomuk: how long before a new file's filename can be found by nepomuk? and strigi indexes file *contents* so nepomuk should still find filenames without strigi being enabled, right?
[21:15] <Lunar_Lamp> My "panel" has frozen; clicing on it gives no response, and I cannot change between windows using it (only alt+tab).  How can I respawn it? (equivalent to doing 'killall gnome-panel' in gnome)
[21:17] <Pavel_> anyone know how to get silverlight working?  I installed the firefox addon, but when I tried to view content with it firefox shuts down
[21:19] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: alt+F2 kquitapp plasma-desktop   and alt+F2 plasma-desktop to start it again
[21:19] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: does more that kill and restart just the panel, but it will do what you want
[21:20] <Lunar_Lamp> mefisto__: I type "kquitapp plasma-desktop" in the alt+f2 dialog box? Nothing seems to happen.
[21:23] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: do you get a menu if you right-click the desktop? maybe it's already not running
[21:24] <Lunar_Lamp> mefisto__: well, it was running for several days, and just appears to have stopped.
[21:24] <Lunar_Lamp> (I'm not normally a user of KDE)
[21:25] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: what about killall plasma-desktop ?
[21:25] <Lunar_Lamp> Well, it's gone now!
[21:25] <Lunar_Lamp> "plasma-desktop" in a terminal is sufficient to restart it?
[21:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Or do I need to run it out of some script?
[21:26] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: yes, but in terminal, you'll need to keep that terminal running to keep plasma going
[21:26] <Lunar_Lamp> If I alt+f2 it'll auto-disown?
[21:26] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: should work in the alt+F2 dialog
[21:27] <Lunar_Lamp> It appears to have done, thanks
[21:27] <alexxio_> hi, i need a very powerful gparted alternative, can you help?
[21:27] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm not too familiar with all this GUI thing ;-)
[21:29] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: that alt+F2 thing (krunner) does all kinds of clever things, not just execute commands. searches files, bookmarks, opens urls, simple calculator, etc etc
[21:29] <Lunar_Lamp> mefisto__: yeah, I got a glimpse that it might do some funky stuff just in using it now :-)
[21:30] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: there's something similar in gnome, isn't there? gnome-do?
[21:30] <Lunar_Lamp> I believe so, but I haven't used it /o\
[21:30] <chuckf> gnome-do seems more powerful from what I've seen
[21:30] <Lunar_Lamp> I just have win+t to bring up a terminal, and spend my entire day in terminals, with an email client, web-browser and music player all running in the background.
[21:32] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: I use yakuake for a terminal. I feel lost without it now
[21:33] <Lunar_Lamp> Is that the drop-down one from teh top of the screen?
[21:33] <mefisto__> Lunar_Lamp: yep
[21:33] <Lunar_Lamp> Does that scale well to having 20-30 open at once? I just assumed it wouldn't.
[21:36] <mefisto__> 20-30 what open at once?
[21:37] <mefisto__> oh, 20 terminals?
[21:39] <mefisto__> you can open new tabs. on my screen I can see 15 tabs at once, but you can have more than what's visible
[21:42] <Lunar_Lamp> Yeah, I know I *can* use tabs, but I always seem to find that harder to work with for some reason. Maybe yakuake solves that.
[21:44] <MuffinPimp> ummm I get this error when launching the kubuntu-firefox-installer
[21:44] <MuffinPimp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/377929/
[21:44] <MuffinPimp> I'm useing KDE4.4
[21:44] <MuffinPimp> If that's useful information
[21:52] <mefisto__> MuffinPimp: I just tried it. seems to be specific to kde4.4.
[21:53] <nonameNN> ive two questions, first whats up with screensavers on kde 4.4? and second, can me change the theme of notifications
[21:54] <MuffinPimp> mefisto__: Do you know what packages it installs?
[21:55] <mefisto__> MuffinPimp: just firefox packages, afaik. same result as sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:56] <MuffinPimp> Oh I thought somehow it was packaged more ubuntu frendly
[21:56] <MuffinPimp> err
[21:56] <MuffinPimp> kubuntu*
[21:57] <mefisto__> MuffinPimp: someone in here told me about a ppa with firefox + kde integration that I've been using
[21:58] <mefisto__> MuffinPimp: https://launchpad.net/~debfx/+archive/firefox-kde
[21:59] <MuffinPimp> interesting
[21:59] <MuffinPimp> I'll check that out
[22:00] <mefisto__> MuffinPimp: gives you kde file open/save dialogs and associates firefox with default kde apps (text editor, file browser, etc)
[22:00] <MuffinPimp> :o
[22:00] <MuffinPimp> Nice
[22:01] <MuffinPimp> Btw just wondering when will 3.6 be in the repos?
[22:03] <mefisto__> MuffinPimp: don't know, but it's in lucid 10.4 now
[22:03] <WaltzingAlong> MuffinPimp: will not be in karmic
[22:04] <MuffinPimp> Oh ok
[22:36] <qemqemqem> has anyone tried having multiple GUI terminals simultaneously?  That is to say, run separate instances of Xorg or separate window managers
[22:40] <qemqemqem> dolphins?
[22:44] <Pepcok> hello everyone, i have a question; i found solution for a problem but it's showed how-to on gnome, while I'm using KDE; where can I find Gnome's System-Preferences-Main menu (where should be list of programs) in KDE?
[22:45] <Pepcok> It's probably not System Settings->Multimedia
[22:46] <mefisto__> qemqemqem: I've tried it. tried it just now when I read your question :)
[22:46] <qemqemqem> awesome; did it work?
[22:47] <mefisto__> qemqemqem: yes. I did ctrl-alt-ins to start a new session
[22:47] <qemqemqem> Xorg gave me errors when I tried to start it from a standard text terminal
[22:48] <qemqemqem> whoah!
[22:48] <qemqemqem> that's neat!
[22:49] <mefisto__> Pepcok: what are you looking for? what system prefs do you need?
[22:51] <Pepcok> mefisto__:  Well, I have problem with Audacious 2 scrobbling plugin - it doesn't work; i found solution which tells me to go System->Preferences-> Main menu and then click sound and video (solution is in my languange so i hope i translated it correctly) and then do something with program
[22:52] <Pepcok> change stomething in program's preferences
[22:52] <Pepcok> but in KDE I can't find it
[22:52] <qemqemqem_> sort of messed up KDM though
[22:53] <mefisto__> Pepcok: do something with audacious? in system preferences?
[22:54] <Pepcok> it seems that way
[22:54] <mefisto__> Pepcok: do what?
[22:54] <Pepcok> change audacious2  to audacious 2
[22:54] <Pepcok> change audacious2  to audacious 2
[22:54] <Pepcok> change audacious2 % U to audacious 2
[22:55] <mefisto__> Pepcok: in the menu that starts the program?
[22:55] <Pepcok> (there is no space between % and U)
[22:55] <mefisto__> Pepcok: right-click the menu button, menu editor. then find audacious and change it the way you need
[22:56] <Pepcok> in the menu Sound and Video; there should be icon with audacious
[22:57] <mefisto__> Pepcok: in kde menu, it's in the multimedia section
[22:59] <mefisto__> Pepcok: so it should be "audacious2 %U" instead of "audacious2 % U" ?
[23:00] <Pepcok> System Settings-> Multimedia? I can see only my device preferences and backend
[23:00] <Pepcok> no, audacious instead audacious
[23:01] <Pepcok> no, audacious instead audacious % U (I have to do space because of my program)
[23:01] <mefisto__> Pepcok: no, in menu editor. start the menu editor by right-clicking the menu button
[23:01] <Pepcok> ooo i see now
[23:01] <mefisto__> so just remove the %U and it fixes it?
[23:02] <Pepcok> thank you very much
[23:02] <miglo> hi! from time to time my dsl connection does not get successfully established during the startup of kubuntu. das someone have a clue what this could be? a known bug?
[23:02] <Pepcok> no then change in properties of mp3 file audcaious2 not audacious2 GTKui
[23:02] <Pepcok> and it should worl
[23:02] <qemqemqem_> what network manager are you using?
[23:03] <miglo> I have immediately removed this network manager because it never worked for me and used as usually pppoeconf
[23:03] <mefisto__> Pepcok: you might need to do that change in systemsettings > file associations, for mp3 files
[23:04] <mefisto__> Pepcok: file associations is in the advanced tab in systemsettings
[23:04] <miglo> I see the interface ppp0 in the failure situation but am not able to connect to any host
[23:05] <miglo> what I do is to re-eastablish the connection manually
[23:06] <miglo> but this is really annoying :|
[23:06] <Pepcok> mefisto__: it helped audacious 2 is now working correctly
[23:27] <kubuntu> hallo
[23:27] <kubuntu> hallo
[23:45] <cbwcjw> Hello! Does anyone know how to change the amount of time the notification bubble stays up in KDE 4.4/4.3?
[23:47] <mefisto__> cbwcjw: good question
[23:48] <cbwcjw> mefisto  : I really did look around for it.
[23:51] <cbwcjw> However, that's not my main question. I'm having a bit of an issue with akregator...
[23:51] <cbwcjw> It's not cooperating when I try to 'import' a feed. Does anyone use it?
[23:53] <mefisto__> import as opposed to add feed? like, from a file or something?
[23:56] <cbwcjw> mefisto__: My error, Nevermind to that second question, haha.


[00:49]  * BUGabundo Memory depleted. Please terminate Brain. \n bed
[01:28] <bcurtiswx> ampelbein, 1 hour!! <gets excited> :P
[02:44] <bcurtiswx> Ampelbein: do you have a minute I can bug you?
[03:43] <therussianjig>  if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?
[03:48] <micahg> therussianjig: try #ubuntu for support
[03:48] <micahg> please
[03:48] <micahg> this is the bug triage channel
[03:48] <micahg> or #ubuntu+1 if you're running karmic
[03:49] <therussianjig> alright sory
[04:59] <micahg> ping kees
[05:11] <micahg> ping hggdh
[06:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:32] <thekorn> good morning bugsquad
[08:59] <tommy_0_o> hi all
[08:59] <tommy_0_o> i have some questions
[09:03] <leoquant> 0_o ok
[13:04] <Syka> Hey guys, I'm having an issue with gnome-panel. It will stop responding every so often, and then after a few minutes it works again and all the clicks are registered at once. If anyone knows a fix that'd be great. I'm running nVidia 180.44, 9800GT, dual monitors, Jaunty Desktop, and standard everything else. Installed it via Add/Remove.
[13:04] <Syka> Any ideas?
[13:07] <bullgard4> What is meant by "official tags" in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/ekiga?
[13:23] <xteejx> Hey guys, I'm triaging bug 124387, cant think of what else I need to ask for, theres only debugging procedures for dist upgrades on the wiki, any ideas?
[13:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 124387 in update-manager "[jaunty] update manager lock file not always removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124387
[13:23] <tom2> hi
[13:24] <tom2> i have to fix some bugs for university
[13:24] <tom2> i would like to know how i can find some to fix
[13:25] <mvo> xteejx: the file itself in the report is probably not a problem, its more likely that the background apt cron job is triggered
[13:25] <xteejx> tom2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved
[13:25] <mvo> xteejx: the file itself is not used, there is a fcntl() call used for the actual locking
[13:27] <xteejx> mvo, thats kinda beyond my knowledge - fro a triaging view is there anything else that i can put to help?
[13:28] <tom2> mvo: thx do you maybe have a list I can choose bugs from?
[13:28] <xteejx> i gave you the link
[13:29] <xteejx> just go to bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and look, theres plenty to choose from :)
[13:29] <mvo> xteejx: from the triage POV its good I think
[13:29] <xteejx> mvo, great, ill confirm it and set it medium :)
[13:29] <xteejx> vo, ps thank you
[13:30] <tom2> xteejx thx found what im looking for
[13:30] <xteejx> tom2, no probs
[13:31] <tom2> ok another question
[13:32] <tom2> the importance does that say the difficulty or just the need to be fixed?
[13:33] <xteejx> tom2 The importance of the bug signifies the priority that it should be given by people fixing bugs.
[13:33] <xteejx> hence the importance
[13:34] <tom2> ok thx
[13:34] <tom2> im looking for some java related bug
[13:35] <tom2> do you have any suggestions
[13:35] <tom2> ?
[13:35] <xteejx> any preference, openjdk or sun?
[13:36] <xteejx> tom2 ^^
[13:36] <tom2> sun
[13:37] <xteejx> you can do a package search on launchpad, hang on ill try and link you
[13:38] <tom2> thx
[13:38] <xteejx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6
[13:39] <xteejx> 229 open bugs
[13:39] <tom2> nice
[13:39] <tom2> thx again
[13:40] <xteejx> np
[14:30] <xteejx> guys quick question, is ntp available in jaunty? cant see any option anywhere
[14:30] <hggdh> xteejx, yes, ntp and ntpdate are available on Jaunty
[14:31] <BUGabundo> xteejx: yes
[14:31] <xteejx> hey hggdh :) - how do i set it up...it used to be a standard option in gnoe around hardy
[14:31] <xteejx> *gnome
[14:31] <BUGabundo> hggdh: [[]]
[14:31] <BUGabundo> xteejx: humm good question. it used to be on the Clock
[14:31] <xteejx> trying to confirm bug 157215
[14:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 157215 in gnome-system-tools "Synchronizing with a time server does not work when time difference is greater than several hours" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157215
[14:31] <xteejx> thats what i thought under Time Settings
[14:33] <xteejx> dont think its a bug though, the same happens in *cough* windows
[14:34] <hggdh> well, there is an easy way to check :-)
[14:34] <xteejx> hggdh ?
[14:35] <hggdh> (1) stop ntp; (2) reset the time to something a few hours behind; reboot; check time
[14:35] <hggdh> ntp should be restarted when you acquire a connection
[14:35] <hggdh> also, check the NTP time servers in your configuration
[14:36] <hggdh> /etc/ntp.conf
[14:37] <BUGabundo> xteejx: that's a Feature! not a bug
[14:37] <BUGabundo> you need to force ntp to update date if diff is bigger then X hours
[14:38] <xteejx> so hggdh, ntp is installed and activated by default then??
[14:39] <hggdh> yes, it is
[14:39] <hggdh> also keep in mind that there is ntp, and ntpdate
[14:39] <BUGabundo> tenhu q ir! ate logo people
[14:39] <xteejx> ahh ok
[14:40] <hggdh> ntp is a daemon, and ntpdate is a one-run thing
[14:40] <hggdh> better saying: ntp runs continuously
[14:40] <xteejx> so as you said, stop ntp, set time back couple of hours, restart it
[14:41] <hggdh> yes
[14:41] <xteejx> cool thanks hggdh for again more wisdom :D
[14:42] <hggdh> I do not remember the details, long time I do not touch ntp, but -- as long as the time difference is, er, small, NTP will progressively adjust it
[14:43] <hggdh> if the time difference is, er, big, then NTP will adjust in one single setting
[14:43] <hggdh> what I do not remember is the threshold
[14:45] <xteejx> so the guy is right then, and this is still a "problem" - should be wishlist?
[14:45] <hggdh> xteejx, there is a parameter to ntpd that might bring some light: " -g     Normally, ntpd exits with a message to the system log if the offset exceeds the panic threshold, which is 1000 s by default.  This option allows the time to be set to any value without restriction; however,  this  can
[14:45] <hggdh>               happen only once.  If the threshold is exceeded after that, ntpd will exit with a message to the system log.  This option can be used with the -q and -x options.
[14:45] <hggdh> "
[14:46] <xteejx> ahhhhhhhhhh
[14:46] <hggdh> if this limit is exceeded, no, it is not a problem. It is The Way It Is (TM)
[14:48] <xteejx> just set my system time back 5 hours, and then run ntpdate and it updated fine
[14:48] <hggdh> there are two reasons (1) if, while running, the system clock is losing so many tick to get seriously offset, then this is a hardware issue; (2) if, while powered down, the system clock gets lost, then this is a battery issue
[14:49] <hggdh> xteejx, you are not running tnpd?
[14:49] <xteejx> i dunno lol
[14:49] <hggdh> if ntpd is running, ntpdate will not work
[14:49] <xteejx> ntpdate did work....its a fresh jaunty install
[14:49] <xteejx> ^pretty much anyway
[14:49] <hggdh> :-)
[14:50] <hggdh> run a dpkg -l ntp\* | grep ^ii
[14:50] <hggdh> you should see ntp, ntp-doc, and ntpdate
[14:51] <hggdh> (I hope)
[14:51] <Ampelbein> hggdh: hi there. https://edge.launchpad.net/~amoog/+archive/empathy-daily now has -idle in it.
[14:51] <xteejx> nope hggdh, just ntpdate
[14:51] <hggdh> Ampelbein, thank you, very much
[14:51] <hggdh> ah
[14:52] <hggdh> interesting. I *did* expect ntp to be installed
[14:52] <xteejx> obv not in jaunty as default hmm....
[14:52] <xteejx> !info ntp jaunty
[14:52] <ubot4> xteejx: ntp (source: ntp): Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs. In component main, is optional.  I have it installed in all my machines, but I used to run my own time server
[14:53] <hggdh> !info ntpdate jaunty
[14:53] <ubot4> hggdh: ntpdate (source: ntp): client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-7ubuntu5.1 (jaunty), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB
[14:54] <hggdh> dat iz weird
[14:54] <xteejx> lol
[16:15] <lesshaste> hi.. I get lots of errors like [  196.328549] hda: status error: error=0x00 { }
[16:15] <lesshaste> [  196.328552] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[16:15] <lesshaste> [  196.328556] hda: drive not ready for command
[16:15] <lesshaste> in dmesg
[16:15] <lesshaste> I can stop them by doing sudo hdparm -w /dev/hda
[16:15] <lesshaste> but now I can't access an audio cs in the dvd drive


[18:04] <zouzou> hi all
[18:04] <zouzou> anybody has an HP tx1410us laptop? or heard of any problems with it?
[21:02] <kexp903_> Hi


[12:48] <x230> /list
[13:08] <FastLizard4mC> /!\ this channel has moved to ##hamradio /!\
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[19:46] <dragon2> is anyone aware of driver issues with wifi card on macbooks?
[19:47] <dragon2> I can`t remember what type it is
[19:47] <dragon2> I have this problem with disconnecting, the signal is good
[19:48] <dragon2> i didn`t have wireless until I tagged off for propriotary drivers
[19:50] <wxl> dragon2: there's all sorts of problematic driver issues for wifi. the solution depends on the details. either way, the solution is not specific to lubuntu.
[19:55] <dragon2> no, I guess it is debian or ubuntu in general, or the copyright developers
[19:56] <dragon2> I just know there were wifi issues with macs years ago, and it took ages before they corrected it with upgrades
[19:57] <dragon2> I doesn`t have to be driver or even hardware related, could be other things
[20:03] <wxl> it's not
[20:04] <wxl> it's either the wrong driver, a conflict with another driver, the way the driver is configured
[20:05] <wxl> i've seen lots of cases with random and frequent disconnections have to do with power management being turned on
[20:05] <wxl> how to deal with that differs depending on the driver
[20:11] <genii> Probably one of those problemmatic Broadcom ones
[20:16] <wxl> my experience with old ppc macs suggest that those broadcom chips are pretty reliable
[20:16] <wxl> i've seen it more with realtek especially
[20:16] <wxl> but who knows what broadcom is up to in more recent times
[20:27] <genii> Also the ones where the mini-pci/pcie slot on the laptop are actually some thing on the USB cause headaches when the computer decides to do USB power saving things
[20:29] <wxl> ohhh that's fun
[23:48] <wxl> cyborgzeta[m]: welcome :)