[05:45]  * nlsthzn waves
[05:52] <superfly> morning nlsthzn
[05:52] <nlsthzn> Good morning superfly
[07:17] <sakhi> morning
[08:09] <nuvolari> o/
[08:09]  * nuvolari tips hat
[08:16]  * nlsthzn gets annoyed at silly wiki page editing :/ Feels like hacking out html code back in 1998...
[08:30] <hihanhoesj> Morning all
[08:30] <superfly> morning hihanhoesj
[08:31] <sakhi> morning hihanhoesj
[08:32] <hihanhoesj> and how are things on this side of the intertubes?
[08:38] <superfly> trying to get back into work, but not really feeling it
[08:38] <hihanhoesj> lol I know what you mean :(
[08:38] <superfly> have you been away from work for 3 weeks?
[08:40] <hihanhoesj> hmm, cant say that I have
[08:40] <hihanhoesj> only had the weekend
[09:46] <inetpro> superfly: yikes, you back at the office?
[09:46] <inetpro> good morning
[09:52] <Kilos> morning superfly and others. can someone please enlighten me so i can help my boet
[09:53] <Kilos> he is having probs with some mails getting to his mail
[09:53] <Kilos> i will copy what they say to him
[09:54] <Kilos> (10:49:33 AM) rob: one of the job sites sent me a message saying we have had 3 or 4 hard bounces when trying to send mails to my adress, please correct my mail problem
[09:55] <Kilos> he is using win7 and yahoo which i know is not right for here. i hope someone knows what they mean
[09:55] <Kilos> he says only bounces he knows is what a ball makes
[09:59] <nlsthzn> I have known of a few cases where mail gets bounced, when the mail address is wrong and the server doesn't recognize it, when you have set your mail account to bounce mails back... but this may be some sort of routing issue...
[10:00] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn
[10:00] <nlsthzn> As I doubt your brother set his mails to bounce in Yahoo (if it is even possible) I would think there is a problem on the other end to be honest...
[10:04] <Kilos> yeah he has received thousands of mails without a prob
[10:14] <superfly> Kilos: as nlsthzn said, a bounce is a server problem, so that usually means that you've given them the wrong e-mail address
[10:25] <Kilos> thanks guys
[10:36] <magellanic> hoi hoi
[11:57]  * Kilos goes to take visa application in
[11:57] <Kilos> later all
[12:02] <superfly> bye Kilos
[12:03] <Kilos> toods superfly its not passed  yet
[12:03] <Kilos> and for 3 months for now
[13:26] <kbmonkey> good arvie
[14:25] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[14:25]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[14:26] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[14:26] <Maaz> Sure thing, Kilos. Hey guys, bring your own mugs!  IRL that is... on IRC it is coffee all the way it seems :p
[14:27] <Kilos> yeah
[14:28] <Kilos> bots dont make tea
[14:28] <kbmonkey> Maaz, espresso please!
[14:28] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Go get it yourself!
[14:28] <Kilos> lol
[14:28] <kbmonkey> bah humbug :/
[14:29] <Kilos> kbmonkey,  have some cyber coffee its not too bad
[14:29] <kbmonkey> Maaz, coffee please
[14:29] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Alrighty
[14:29] <kbmonkey> don't mind if I do :)
[14:29] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos, nlsthzn and kbmonkey!
[14:30] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[14:30] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's  on the top shelf
[14:30] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[14:30] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[14:30] <kbmonkey> Maaz, ty
[14:30] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[14:30] <nlsthzn> Maaz: thanks
[14:30] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Okay :-)
[14:30] <kbmonkey> this work is boring me to death, coffee sure is good!
[14:31] <Kilos> what you doing that its boring
[14:31] <kbmonkey> vb.net!
[14:31]  * nlsthzn is back to work tomorrow... 4 days week-ends are good (when you have them) :p
[14:31] <Kilos> kbmonkey,  i have no idea what that is even
[14:31] <kbmonkey> fyi I will be leaving here in a few weeks, woohoo!
[14:32] <Kilos> where ya going
[14:32] <nlsthzn> ... busy working through LPI 101 stuff... messing with my head :p
[14:32] <kbmonkey> business systems for clothing and textiles Kilos, in microsoft languages :/
[14:32] <Kilos> eish
[14:32] <Kilos> that sucks
[14:32] <kbmonkey> I resigned last week, looking for new skills, new tasks, new environments :)
[14:33] <Kilos> you shoulda first found a new place before resigning
[14:34] <Kilos> was an add inna lists for an it guy a while ago
[14:35] <kbmonkey> also want to work through the LPI 101
[14:36] <kbmonkey> yes I dont know what direction to go, I'd rather face the unknown than spend another year stuck here :)
[14:36] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey: being a bit of a noob in linux I am finding only having a study guide tough... I think I have to invest in the book by sybex maybe
[14:37] <kbmonkey> nlsthzn, looked through it a bit, there's plenty redundant info (like all manuals)
[14:37] <kbmonkey> but alltogether neccesary to understand where it all begins I guess
[14:37] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey: redunted is better than lacking in my case... would rather hear the samething twice and know it then miss something
[14:38]  * nlsthzn going to test hibernation on Kubuntu 11.04... so be back in a bit (hopefully not after restarting :p)
[14:38] <kbmonkey> agreed! if you have any questions, I know a lot of the 1st 3 topics
[14:48] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey: sweet thanks...
[14:50] <nlsthzn> hibernation worked like a charm
[14:50] <nlsthzn> I am impressed
[14:51] <kbmonkey> how often do you study nlsthzn? daily? wonder if irc study sessions would work.
[14:55] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey: I have started today to check it out... working shifts etc. I can't have dedicated time :/ which makes it difficult
[14:55] <nlsthzn> now to test sleep mode... should be ok
[14:56] <nlsthzn> also working fine :)
[14:56] <nlsthzn> Kubuntu FTW!
[15:00] <kbmonkey> +1 for that!
[15:02] <kbmonkey> Im reminded how I haven't been plagued by any malware or such nasties for a long time. hooray ^_^
[15:04] <nlsthzn> Used my dektop (vista) for the first time in awhile... wanted to use IRC... XChat, used for more than 30-days, register... I was like stuff that... go for mIRC... have to register... #@@$#$%*%^ windows applications and registering... so annoying
[15:07] <Kilos> lol
[15:07]  * Kilos hates windows
[15:07] <Kilos> only good for games
[15:07] <Kilos> and then only sometimes
[15:08] <Kilos> but boet reckons win7 better than vista
[15:09] <kbmonkey> it may be, but choosing the lesser evil doesnt make it right ;P
[15:09] <Kilos> lol
[15:09] <highvoltage> Kilos: hate leads to anger, anger leads to suffering
[15:09] <Kilos> ah hello highvoltage hows ya
[15:10] <Kilos> long time no see
[15:10] <Kilos> only inna odd mail
[15:10] <kbmonkey> sounds like the windows recovery support group motto highvoltage!
[15:11] <Kilos> normally the suffering with windows is the taking out of another $49
[15:11] <highvoltage> Kilos: hey! good thanks and there?
[15:11] <Kilos> well thanks
[15:11] <highvoltage> kbmonkey: heh
[15:13] <nlsthzn> Well, Vista works perfectly on my desktop for gaming...
[15:13] <Kilos> lol
[15:14] <kbmonkey> the one win game I play (Doom) runs in Dosbox he he
[15:15] <nlsthzn> :)
[16:01]  * nlsthzn won't be making the IRC meeting tonight... day shift again tomorrow so IR needs the beauty rest :p
[16:03] <inetpro> yikes, what time is the meeting?
[16:08] <Squirm> hello
[16:09] <marcog> meeting? oshi
[16:10] <marcog> we really need to /topic the meeting dates
[16:13] <highvoltage> marcog: you should now be able to request ops and change the topic
[16:13] <marcog> highvoltage: :)
[16:30] <drubin> Please can some one ping me on gtalk/here before the meeting?
[16:37] <superfly> uh, that should be 19:30, not 17:30
[16:41] <marcog> superfly: oh, link says 17:30 will fix
[16:42] <superfly> marcog: yeah, I just checked as well... the link says 17:30 UTC :-)
[16:42] <marcog> oh right
[16:43] <maiatoday> yes the timezones are weird there, it is meant to be at 19h30
[16:44] <Tonberry> any nfs experts here?
[16:44] <maiatoday> that's 19h30 UTC+2
[16:45] <Tonberry> my nfs server is thrashing like mad for no reason if i upload large files to it
[16:45] <Tonberry> and the throughput is terrible when it thrashes
[16:45] <jpm> o
[16:45] <jpm> nogals
[16:45] <jpm> maiatoday: het jy al 'n repo mirror gekry of moet ek nog een vir jou maak
[16:46] <jpm> sorry ek het nie reageer op die mail nie
[16:46] <jpm> was mal besig tot en met vandag gewees
[16:47] <maiatoday> jpm een of ander tyd, nie haastig nie, ek het intussen geupgrade maar daar is paar ander mense wat nog wil upgrade
[16:47] <jpm> ok
[16:47] <jpm> laat weet maar
[16:48] <jpm> in eksamentyd is dit gewoonlik rustig genoeg om sulke goed tussendeur te doen
[16:48] <maiatoday> wel kyk hoe jou dinge loop en ek sal die disk bring as jy reg is
[16:48] <queery> chat later
[16:51] <maiatoday> Maaz help with meeting
[16:51] <Maaz> maiatoday: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about.  for more details.
[16:51] <maiatoday> Maaz help me with meeting
[16:51] <Maaz> maiatoday: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[16:52] <maiatoday> Maaz help me with monitoring things
[16:52] <Maaz> maiatoday: I use the following features for monitoring things: coffee, http, icecast, meeting and ping
[16:52] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[16:52] <maiatoday> Maaz how do I use meeting
[16:52] <Maaz> maiatoday: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[16:52] <Maaz>   (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[16:52] <Maaz>   I am <True Name>
[16:53] <maiatoday> Maaz how do I use action
[16:53] <Maaz> maiatoday: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features.
[16:57] <Kilos> stubborn bot
[16:57] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[16:57] <Kilos> hi maiatoday
[16:57] <maiatoday> she's always like that, picky about verbs and syntax
[16:58] <Kilos> lol
[16:59] <Kilos> its remembering things maiatoday
[16:59] <maiatoday> Maaz help me with remembering things
[17:00] <Maaz> maiatoday: I use the following features for remembering things: factoid, karma, meeting, memo and seen
[17:00] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[17:00] <maiatoday> Maaz help me with decisions
[17:00] <Maaz> maiatoday: I use the following features for decisions: choose and poll
[17:00] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[17:01] <maiatoday> Maaz how do I use poll
[17:01] <Maaz> maiatoday: Does a quick poll of channel members. You can use it like this:
[17:01] <Maaz>   [secret] poll on <topic> [until <time>] vote <option> [or <option>]...
[17:01] <Maaz>   vote (<id> | <option>) [on <topic>]
[17:01] <maiatoday> Maaz how do I use choose
[17:01] <Maaz> maiatoday: Choose one of the given options. You can use it like this:
[17:01] <Maaz>   choose <choice> or <choice>...
[17:01] <superfly> Tonberry: what are your NFS mount settings?
[17:01] <Tonberry> i think i found a solution
[17:02] <Tonberry> added async to the export settings
[17:02] <superfly> did you find what the problem is though?
[17:02] <Tonberry> seems to have fixed it
[17:02] <superfly> OK
[17:02] <Tonberry> after a few gigabytes the throughput dropped to 5MB/s and the disk thrashed and made a lot of noise
[17:03] <Kilos> Maaz, how do i use meeting
[17:03] <Maaz> Kilos: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[17:03] <Maaz>   (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[17:03] <Maaz>   I am <True Name>
[17:03] <Tonberry> jdb2 also seemed to use up most of the io time without actually writing anything
[17:03] <Tonberry> im at 20GB worth of zeros without any slowdowns so far
[17:03] <Kilos> sorry superfly Tonberry
[17:03] <superfly> does the J in "jdb2" stand for Java, perhaps?
[17:03] <Tonberry> so it seems fixed
[17:03] <Tonberry> no
[17:04] <superfly> oh good
[17:04] <Tonberry> its the ext4 journal thingy
[17:04] <Tonberry> jbd2*
[17:05] <superfly> ah, k
[17:07] <Kilos> maiatoday, ^^
[18:16] <nuvolari> Maaz: i am not who you think i am
[18:16] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[18:16] <nuvolari> :P
[18:16] <nuvolari> good, we understand each other
[18:17] <nlsthzn> Night all
[18:18] <nuvolari> night nlsthzn
[18:19] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: are you not staying for the loco meeting?
[18:19] <nuvolari> kb<tab>
[18:19] <nuvolari> where's that monkey?
[18:19] <Morganvd> hey hey folks
[18:19] <Morganvd> hows everyone doing
[18:20] <nuvolari> hey Morganvd
[18:20] <nuvolari> good and you?
[18:21] <Kilos> evening fellas
[18:23] <Morganvd> kewl
[18:23] <Morganvd> i tried gnome for a few days at work
[18:23] <Morganvd> but i must say its diffrent
[18:23] <Morganvd> i think i actualy migh tbe liking Unity more
[18:24] <kbmonkey> just made it
[18:24] <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos
[18:24] <nuvolari> lo kbmonkey
[18:24] <nuvolari> was just talking about you :P
[18:24] <Morganvd> hey Kilos
[18:25] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: dunno if I asked you before, but where about in durban are you?
[18:25] <queery> im here
[18:26] <Kilos> lo queery
[18:26] <queery> has anyone pinged drubin yet?
[18:26] <drubin> I am semi here.. but I might have to leave :(
[18:26] <kbmonkey> windemere area nuvolari :)
[18:26] <maiatoday> hello all
[18:27] <maiatoday> I'll give it a few more minutes and then we can get started
[18:27] <kbmonkey> thanks maiatoday :)
[18:27] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: i'm a bit lost. from ballito :P is windmere north or south?
[18:27]  * kbmonkey eats more chow mein
[18:27] <queery> hi drubin
[18:27] <nuvolari> lo queery
[18:27] <nuvolari> lo bytjie
[18:27] <kbmonkey> err, is ballito on the north coast?
[18:27] <nuvolari> lo jpm
[18:27] <Kerbero> hi
[18:28] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: ye, about 45k north of durbs
[18:28] <queery> hi all
[18:28] <nuvolari> lo Kerbero
[18:28] <jpm> dag
[18:28] <nuvolari> dag-sê
[18:29] <superfly> aloha
[18:29] <kbmonkey> well since windemere is inside durban I guess its south from ballito then?
[18:29]  * nuvolari share his popcorn
[18:29] <nuvolari> lol kbmonkey
[18:29] <nuvolari> I meant north or south durban
[18:29] <kbmonkey> soz, Im not sure what you asking
[18:30] <zs6jce> maps.googe. com
[18:30] <drubin> 4 screens + 3 pcs + 3 different OS's + synergy == /me confused
[18:30] <nuvolari> I know where husgrave is, and I know where entambeni hospital is
[18:30] <kbmonkey> oooh, mm I guess it's in between, leaning towards north
[18:30] <Kerbero> cq zs6jce, de zs1jpm
[18:31] <nuvolari> :? r wi talkin s3cr!t c0ude?
[18:31] <maiatoday> shall I wait some more or shall we start?
[18:31] <kbmonkey> we can get directions to you then :)
[18:31] <queery> I think we can start
[18:31] <drubin> maiatoday: give it a few mins.. it is only 19:31
[18:31] <kbmonkey> Kerbero is typing on a rot13 keyboard
[18:31] <nuvolari> ye, really early
[18:31] <queery> we still need to identify
[18:31] <drubin> unless my ntp is broken again
[18:31] <nuvolari> wine anyone?
[18:32] <Tonberry> Kerbero is showing off his callsign
[18:32] <drubin> nuvolari: pick me
[18:32] <Kerbero> hehe
[18:32] <maiatoday> cheers nuvolari
[18:32] <Kerbero> ek show my dvorak kb af
[18:32] <Kerbero> en ek praat HAM
[18:32] <nuvolari> cheers drubin, bytjie
[18:32] <nuvolari> Kerbero: ek ook
[18:32] <drubin> nuvolari: dankie!
[18:32] <maiatoday> queery: we can only see who we are after I start the meeting
[18:32] <queery> oh ok
[18:32] <nuvolari> been using dvorak for about 2 years now :D
[18:33] <nuvolari> plesier drubin
[18:33] <Kerbero> almost 2 i think
[18:33] <nuvolari> geez, now I really feel like getting out a shiraz
[18:34] <kbmonkey> just did training, will fall over from wine ;P
[18:34] <nuvolari> Kerbero: don't you love the confusion when people start to type at your desk/on your keyboard?
[18:34] <Kerbero> hehe
[18:34] <Kerbero> yes, bet i have stickers on mine
[18:34] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: we'll organise some company to get you home
[18:34] <Banlam> yes, so instead we spend 10min typing our names
[18:34] <Kerbero> so they quite fast realise they should look at the blue ones
[18:34] <Kerbero> and then they two-finger type
[18:34] <queery> ok before we begin
[18:34] <queery> maaz, coffee on
[18:34]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:34] <Tonberry> or figure out how to change it back to something sane
[18:34] <Banlam> off the record!
[18:35] <queery> maaz, coffee for all
[18:35] <Maaz> Sure thing, queery. Hey guys, bring your own mugs! I'm tired of doing all the dishes on my own.
[18:35] <nuvolari> Kerbero: I want to get myself a clear keyboard
[18:35] <nuvolari> daskeyboard
[18:35] <nuvolari> I think
[18:35] <maiatoday> ok now can I start?
[18:35] <Morganvd> Maaz: coffee please
[18:35] <Maaz> Morganvd: Yessir
[18:36] <nuvolari> Kerbero: http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-ultimate/
[18:36] <maiatoday> do you think Maaz can do two things at once? is she threaded?
[18:36] <Kilos> go maiatoday put your foot down with a firm hand
[18:36] <Tonberry> maaz is female?
[18:36] <queery> I don't know
[18:36] <maiatoday> she can be what she wants to be
[18:36] <nuvolari> maaz doesn't sound feminine
[18:36] <Kilos> Maaz, are you female
[18:36] <Maaz> Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot
[18:36] <maiatoday> anyway ...
[18:36] <drubin> maiatoday: sure start ;-p
[18:36] <nuvolari> is she a tomboi?
[18:36] <nuvolari> *boy
[18:36] <maiatoday> Maaz: start meeting about ubuntu-za May 2011 monthly IRC meeting
[18:36]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:37] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:37] <Maaz> superfly: Sure
[18:37] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[18:37] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay
[18:37] <maiatoday> Maaz: I am Maia Grotepass
[18:37]  * drubin I am David Rubin
[18:37] <Maaz> maiatoday: Yessir
[18:37] <queery> Maaz, i am Dewald Noeth
[18:37] <Maaz> queery: Righto
[18:37] <Banlam> Maaz: I am Gareth Cawood
[18:37] <Maaz> Banlam: Done
[18:37] <cortexuvula> Maaz: I am Andre Hugo
[18:37] <Maaz> cortexuvula: Yessir
[18:37] <kbmonkey> Maaz: I am Wesley Werner
[18:37] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Okay
[18:37] <Kerbero> Maaz: I am JP Meijers
[18:37] <Maaz> Kerbero: Alrighty
[18:37] <Kilos> Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe
[18:37] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[18:37] <jpm> Maaz: I am also JP Meijers
[18:37] <Maaz> jpm: Righto
[18:37] <Banlam> lol
[18:37] <Kerbero> hehe
[18:38] <superfly> drubin: You need to speak to Maaz ;-)
[18:38] <queery> ai
[18:38] <drubin> Maaz: I am David Rubin
[18:38] <Maaz> drubin: Yessir
[18:38] <Morganvd> Maaz: I am Morgan van Dyk
[18:38] <Maaz> Morganvd: Righto
[18:38] <drubin> superfly: it has been a long time since I have used the bot :( a man forgets these things
[18:38] <superfly> hehe
[18:38] <nuvolari> attendance is good tonight!
[18:38] <superfly> indeed
[18:38] <queery> quite
[18:38] <Tonberry> Maaz: I am Hendrik van Wyk
[18:38] <Maaz> Tonberry: Alrighty
[18:38] <Kerbero> daar is nog twee mense oppad
[18:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery and Morganvd!
[18:39] <maiatoday> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:39] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:39] <Kerbero> hulle stel nog freenode op
[18:39] <nuvolari> there is? who they be?
[18:39] <queery> Maaz, ty
[18:39] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[18:39] <nuvolari> kaah
[18:39] <nuvolari> er
[18:39] <maiatoday> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20110221
[18:39] <nuvolari> lol
[18:39] <drubin> Kerbero: English in the meeting ;-p
[18:39] <Kerbero> hoekom?
[18:40] <nuvolari> Kerbero: for the sake of everyone knowing it
[18:40] <maiatoday> does anyone have any comments on the minutes of the previous meeting besides that we missed some months?
[18:40] <Tonberry> for the sake of other countries reading the log
[18:40] <queery> cause the durbin peeps don't understand afrikaans or klingon
[18:40] <nuvolari> lol
[18:40] <drubin> queery: ek verstaan!!
[18:40] <Kerbero> translate.google.com verstaan afrikaans
[18:40] <nuvolari> queery: drubin understands well enough
[18:40] <queery> oops durban
[18:40] <queery> hehe
[18:41] <maiatoday> We had great release partys
[18:41] <nuvolari> did anyone of you saw the realtime translate on google during GoogleIO?
[18:41] <nuvolari> *youtube
[18:41] <superfly> nuvolari: let's concentrate on the meeting, ok?
[18:41] <maiatoday> Did anyone get pic for the Pretoria release party?
[18:41] <nuvolari> sorry
[18:42] <Tonberry> Did anyone take pics for Stellenbosch?
[18:42] <queery> maiatoday, thank you for posting the pics of the WC release party
[18:42] <Tonberry> i take that as a yes
[18:42] <Kerbero> yes i saw a pic
[18:42] <maiatoday> yes there were a few, I posted them on my blog
[18:42] <queery> yes I did and there are a few on facebook Tonberry
[18:42] <maiatoday> did anybody here go to the pretoria release party?
[18:42] <kbmonkey> nope
[18:43] <maiatoday> Maaz: agreed maiatoday will mail pretoria release party people and see if they have photos
[18:43] <Maaz> Agreed: maiatoday will mail pretoria release party people and see if they have photos
[18:43] <superfly> maiatoday: regarding reviewing the last meeting's minutes, they look fine, but I can't remember actually discussing any of it! :-P
[18:44] <maiatoday> I have jumped to third item on previous minutes already :P superfly
[18:44] <maiatoday> the third item on the previous minutes was loco-contact replacement
[18:44] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: we should organise something for 11.10
[18:44] <maiatoday> I don't think anything has happened with this
[18:44] <superfly> maiatoday: I know, just no one else said anything about them
[18:44] <drubin> maiatoday: no nothing has happened with that.
[18:45] <nuvolari> welcome ender
[18:45] <maiatoday> what should we do drubin?
[18:45] <ender> Maaz: i am Jedri Visser
[18:45] <Maaz> ender: Yessir
[18:45] <drubin> I did look at the date that I was 'voted in' and it was JUST under 2 years ago, September 2009
[18:45] <drubin> So I am going to email the list next week, saying I would like to step down but I think a sane thing would be to have some one join me before I step down.
[18:45] <kbmonkey> yes I like that idea nuvolari!
[18:46] <drubin> so that I can help them and get them updated and stuff better not leave them in the dark.
[18:46] <nuvolari> hello koiosify
[18:46] <drubin> exactly how we pick that person I am not sure...
[18:46] <koiosify> maaz: i am  Nicholas Thompson
[18:46] <Maaz> koiosify: Sure
[18:46] <marcog> Maaz: i am Marco Gallotta
[18:46] <Maaz> marcog: Sure
[18:46] <maiatoday> drubin I looked at the Loco team how to and they don't really prescrbe how we should decide on who takes over from you
[18:47] <queery> I guess we can do it here?
[18:47] <maiatoday> so I propose that we ask for volunteers
[18:47] <maiatoday> I also propose that we have more than one person so that is someone is busy the other one can help
[18:47] <oogway> Maaz: I am Hilton Gibson
[18:47] <Maaz> oogway: Okay
[18:47] <marcog> maiatoday: are there any obvious candidates?
[18:47] <maiatoday> Is there anybody here who wants to be the loco contact person
[18:48] <maiatoday> ?
[18:48] <marcog> i recall tumbleweed saying he was interested
[18:48] <kbmonkey> I'd volunteer however feel I could've been more around and involved lately, so ja
[18:48] <queery> maiatoday, i agree
[18:48] <queery> I would if someone would help me out
[18:48] <maiatoday> I am super busy so if I take the job I don't want to do it alone
[18:48] <maiatoday> snap
[18:48] <maiatoday> :)
[18:48] <queery> hehe
[18:48] <marcog> is it possible to do it from overseas? :P
[18:49] <drubin> marcog:  no
[18:49] <oogway> perhaps we should rotate by region ?
[18:49] <marcog> drubin: awe
[18:49] <drubin> we need one or 2 people
[18:49] <drubin> oogway:  no
[18:49] <queery> I also don't agree oogway
[18:49] <kbmonkey> we could have a couple but one person still needs to be the official loco contact, correct? an ubuntu intermediary?
[18:50] <drubin> most places have 1 person. some people have 2
[18:50] <Morganvd> maybe even look at people from each region
[18:50] <marcog> we should really try get someone from outside of WC involved though
[18:50] <drubin> but we can\t have more then that and we can't really rotate them
[18:50] <marcog> 1 WC, 1 non-WC
[18:50] <drubin> the Loco-Contact is some one for the Loco council to contact and for Canonical to be in contact with.... it isnt some one that is incharge of the loco :)
[18:50] <maiatoday> ideally the loco should have lots of people involved and the contact is just the contact
[18:50] <drubin> maiatoday: ^5
[18:51] <queery> i like
[18:51] <kbmonkey> ah okay!
[18:51] <Morganvd> i like maiatoday for this
[18:51] <maiatoday> so if it is just to be the contact ie read the mails and pass things on, I am happy to take that roll if I can have queery helping me
[18:51] <Morganvd> seems to be the best person to flow information
[18:51] <drubin> yay!!
[18:51] <queery> im in
[18:52] <maiatoday> is the group ok with the contact changing in this way, or are there other volunteers who want to step forward?
[18:52] <Banlam> I approve
[18:52] <Kerbero> me too
[18:52] <queery> any second's?
[18:52]  * superfly doesn't have the time
[18:52] <nuvolari> +1
[18:52] <superfly> I second it!
[18:52] <kbmonkey> I approve too
[18:52] <Kerbero> i'll voluteer next week
[18:52] <Kerbero> *year
[18:52] <Kerbero> lol
[18:52] <oogway> +1
[18:52] <Banlam> lol
[18:52] <kbmonkey> I'll help out more though, deal
[18:52] <nuvolari> lol
[18:52] <queery> Kerbero, you can still help out
[18:53] <Kerbero> as ek mag afrikaans praat
[18:53] <queery> ja maar nie in 'n meeting nie
[18:53] <nuvolari> I just feel that we are a bit disconnected in KZN and should do something about it :/
[18:53] <drubin> maiatoday: VERY happy :)
[18:53] <queery> what about other areas
[18:53] <Morganvd> same in johannesburf
[18:53] <maiatoday> is there someone in KZN (or anywhere else for that matter) that wants to get involved on a more formal level
[18:53] <Morganvd> johannesburg*
[18:53] <kbmonkey> what nuvolari said, we need to get together that might add some glue
[18:54] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: were you at the ubuntu hour we had the start of the year?
[18:54] <queery> who is we?
[18:54] <nuvolari> maiatoday: I would
[18:54] <kbmonkey> I can't recall nuvolari, I was absent during that time.
[18:54] <queery> *are
[18:54] <marcog> how about setting up regional contacts?
[18:55] <maiatoday> great nuvolari that would be great
[18:55] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: we anly had 1, so you would have remembered :P
[18:55] <maiatoday> regional contact would be handy for getting the CDs to the regions
[18:55] <superfly> marcog: in terms of inter-region communication?
[18:55] <queery> I like that nuvolari
[18:55] <marcog> superfly: that, and also heading things in that province
[18:55] <nuvolari> i can get to durban at most once a month
[18:55] <marcog> superfly: i just fear we're too segmented
[18:56] <kbmonkey> I'm open for being a KZN contact / CD distributor
[18:56] <maiatoday> drubin marcog, I can make maaz agree that me and queery become contacts but I don't want to push the group into this if they feel more discussion ie ML is needed
[18:56] <queery> agree
[18:56] <superfly> marcog: absolutely
[18:56] <marcog> maiatoday: i think we need a ML confirmation here
[18:56] <nuvolari> marcog: ML?
[18:56] <queery> but drubin needs to decide
[18:56] <marcog> nuvolari: mailing list
[18:56] <nuvolari> ah
[18:57] <maiatoday> drubin can I task you to take this forward on the mailing list (ML)
[18:57]  * highvoltage peeks in
[18:57] <maiatoday> hi highvoltage
[18:57] <nuvolari> o/ highvoltage
[18:57] <queery> close the door behind you highvoltage
[18:57] <drubin> queery: no I don't :) I am just the contact not the boss
[18:57] <drubin> maiatoday: yes please please do
[18:58] <maiatoday> Maaz: agreed drubin will contact the ML and discuss the follow up contact
[18:58] <Maaz> Agreed: drubin will contact the ML and discuss the follow up contact
[18:58] <drubin> maiatoday: I will help you and we can do coffee to help with the hand over proccesss but honestly you doing most of it any way
[18:58] <queery> NEXT!!!
[18:58] <maiatoday> ok on to the agend: look here http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/91/detail/
[18:58]  * highvoltage closes door
[18:58] <drubin> maiatoday: but it might only be Wednesday or next week ;/
[18:58] <Banlam> drubin works too hard
[18:59] <queery> amen Banlam
[18:59] <maiatoday> that's cool drubin, we can set a time later
[18:59] <maiatoday> Maaz: topic Discuss how to get the CDs to everybody
[18:59] <Maaz> Current Topic: Discuss how to get the CDs to everybody
[18:59] <highvoltage> maiatoday: nice job on keeping the team reports going. there was lots of discussion about team reports at UDS... and how the average team sucks at keeping them maintained :)
[18:59] <maiatoday> They are in my car boot (does that sound familiar drubin?)
[18:59] <maiatoday> we have been a bit lax in that department highvoltage
[18:59] <maiatoday> but we try
[18:59] <drubin> maiatoday: it is the way of the loco-contact
[18:59] <Kerbero> maiatoday: when yo ubring me your HDD you can give me some cd's
[18:59]  * nuvolari don't keep stuff in the boot anymore due to fear of waterdamage :P
[19:00] <queery> highvoltage, have you identified yet?
[19:00] <drubin> highvoltage: Maia was a master at that! but then both me and Maia go really busy
[19:00] <maiatoday> I was thinking more along the line of is there anybody travelling to durban, pretoria, bloem etc who will take cds
[19:00] <drubin> Kerbero: she has the printed cd's
[19:00] <maiatoday> also do the people from UCT need cds
[19:01] <Kerbero> drubin: printed cd's?
[19:01] <oogway> are there points of presence that we could use, for example public libraries ?
[19:01] <highvoltage> drubin: yeah, but sometimes just the effort and trying is already a great start!
[19:01] <nuvolari> ooh, think about it, the cd's are not free for ordering anymore, so it's like valuables :D
[19:01] <maiatoday> I have had some individual request for cds but I don't want to start mailing all over the country, I'd rather send a box to a LUG or other local contact and let them distribute
[19:01] <drubin> maiatoday: yes that is the way to go.
[19:02] <superfly> maybe we should put out a request for "couriers" on the mailing list?
[19:02] <kbmonkey> Any requests from KZN maiatoday ?
[19:02]  * Kerbero requests a box for stellenbosch university
[19:02] <queery> how many lugs do we have?
[19:02] <maiatoday> superfly: I have sent a request out on the mailing list asking just that
[19:02] <superfly> people who are going in those directions who can drop off CDs with the regional contact
[19:02] <superfly> maiatoday: oh, OK
[19:02] <maiatoday> kbmonkey: no only from pretoria
[19:02]  * superfly has been out of the loop for the last 3 weeks
[19:03] <maiatoday> Kerbero: I'll get some to you
[19:03] <Kerbero> thanx
[19:03] <maiatoday> marcog do you need cds
[19:03] <queery> drubin, how many LUG's do we have in SA do you know?
[19:03] <drubin> queery: not a clue
[19:03] <marcog> maiatoday: would be nice to have, but tbh uct students can always burn their own
[19:03] <queery> ok ill check on that
[19:04] <queery> and we can contact them
[19:04]  * Kerbero only knows of sulug.sun and leg.uct
[19:04] <drubin> marcog: Kerbero : I requested they send another box I will email Canonical again tonight
[19:04] <marcog> cool beans
[19:04] <drubin> ^^ please remind me in a little bit... My memory isn't what it used to be
[19:04] <superfly> GLUG, Durban was restarting their LUG recently
[19:04] <maiatoday> Maaz: agreed queery will make a list of LUGS so we can find out who to send the CDs to
[19:04] <Maaz> Agreed: queery will make a list of LUGS so we can find out who to send the CDs to
[19:04] <oogway> for lug's check: http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Help
[19:04] <queery> so can sun marcog, but it's nicer for official distrabution and getting new users
[19:04] <drubin> ie 2-3 hours
[19:04] <marcog> there's something else to consider, why not save the serious effort for LTS releases only?
[19:05] <queery> will do thanx oogway
[19:05] <marcog> queery: yeah, but it's typically old users that grab them first
[19:05] <maiatoday> yeah sure marcog I agree
[19:05] <marcog> the exception is o-week and other events
[19:05] <maiatoday> but in the mean time the CDs are in my car and people could be using them
[19:05] <drubin> marcog: I am fine with that.
[19:05] <marcog> maiatoday: how many do you have?
[19:05] <queery> true
[19:05] <drubin> marcog: but at least with Stellies giving out the printed cd's has had huge success
[19:06] <drubin> marcog: +- 250 cds are given
[19:06] <marcog> drubin: how have you distributed?
[19:06] <maiatoday> Maaz: agreed maiatody will get CDs to stellenbosch
[19:06] <Maaz> Agreed: maiatody will get CDs to stellenbosch
[19:06] <nuvolari> wow, that's a lot
[19:06] <kbmonkey> maiatoday, I request CD's, I will coordinate with you to courrier them (i'll pay) if we cant find a running hand :)
[19:06] <drubin> Maaz: I have done nothing! :)
[19:06] <Maaz> drubin: I already know stuff about I
[19:06] <drubin> marcog: I have done nothing... I have literally be wering around
[19:06] <drubin> working*
[19:06] <oogway> why no lug in KZN ?
[19:07] <maiatoday> cool kbmonkey that would be great
[19:07] <queery> lol at Maaz
[19:07] <marcog> drubin: cause seriously, unless someone makes an effort to distribute them they end up in the hands of people who mostly just want to hold onto the CD
[19:07] <queery> and drubin
[19:07] <nuvolari> oogway: we're a bit distributed :/
[19:07] <drubin> marcog: Honestly you are speaking to the brick wall...
[19:07] <marcog> lol
[19:07] <drubin> because currently I am less usefull then a brick wall.... at least that provides support
[19:07] <maiatoday> do we need more discussion on this topic?
[19:07] <Banlam> lol
[19:08] <queery> I think we can take it further on the list again
[19:08] <maiatoday> ok
[19:08]  * kbmonkey nods
[19:08] <Kerbero> i think:
[19:08] <maiatoday> Maaz: topic Reminder of the things we try to do, e.g. irc meetings, monthly reports, any other?
[19:08] <Maaz> Current Topic: Reminder of the things we try to do, e.g. irc meetings, monthly reports, any other
[19:08] <Kerbero> universities are the best place
[19:08] <drubin> we have +- 20mins left.. meetings over 1 hour become useless
[19:08] <Kerbero> to get new users
[19:08] <maiatoday> I just wanted to list again the things that I know of that we should do and ask if anyone wants to help
[19:09] <oogway> Kerbero: agreed !
[19:09]  * inetpro stepping into the room... need to read all the discussions
[19:09] <inetpro> sorry forbeing late
[19:09] <maiatoday> So basically it's monthly reports and ubuntu hour and meetings and release parties
[19:09] <kbmonkey> hi inetpro
[19:09] <queery> hi inetpro, remember to identify
[19:09] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[19:09] <maiatoday> I seem to miss the meetings because I loose track so I would like someone to be the meeting prodder
[19:10] <maiatoday> someone who just reminds as and gets things going
[19:10] <maiatoday> is there someone who can take this task?
[19:10] <marcog> maiatoday: what's the next would-be date?
[19:10] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[19:10] <Maaz> inetpro: Alrighty
[19:10] <queery> the google cal helps me but sometimes I forget too
[19:10] <maiatoday> it is suposed to be once a month and we have ical
[19:10] <marcog> 13 june?
[19:10] <drubin> marcog: june 20th
[19:10] <drubin> at least according to the google cal
[19:11] <kbmonkey> fyi if you import the ical you can setup an email reminder. I forget everything unless there's a reminder attached.
[19:11] <inetpro> unfortunately somebody else can not set your reminders for you
[19:12] <inetpro> or fortunately
[19:12] <maiatoday> I am talking about setting up the agenda page and sending a reminder to the list
[19:12] <marcog> drubin: where's the calendar?
[19:12] <marcog> maiatoday: yeah, but topic at least might remind someone closer to the time
[19:12] <maiatoday> also I really want to ask everybody to add things to the monthly report because I don't always know of things that are happening
[19:13] <maiatoday> thanks marcog
[19:13] <maiatoday> Maaz: agreed maiatoday will send reminder to the mailing list about tasks and volunteers
[19:13] <Maaz> Agreed: maiatoday will send reminder to the mailing list about tasks and volunteers
[19:13] <oogway> ical is here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/ical
[19:13] <inetpro> we need to perhaps remember to alert/invite via twitter and or identica
[19:13] <Kerbero> Just to add my exporience: the only reason i ever know about ubuntu hours and release party's is because it is also mailed te the Sulug mailing list
[19:13] <marcog> ta oogway
[19:13] <nuvolari> +1 for twitter
[19:14] <Kerbero> (just had the suggestion to use facebook events)
[19:14] <cortexuvula> +1 for identi.ca
[19:14] <queery> Kerbero, are you on the ubuntu-za mailing list?
[19:14] <maiatoday> ok I'll talk to Kerbero inetpro about after the meeting about setting this up
[19:14] <Kerbero> no
[19:14] <oogway> +1 for facebook
[19:14] <queery> +1 for twitter
[19:14] <marcog> i've been trialing facebook pages which post to twitter and it's been working really great
[19:15] <maiatoday> I want to move on to the last item on the agend
[19:15] <drubin> maiatoday: on the website
[19:15] <Kerbero> na @ ubuntu-za mailing list - reason: too much spam
[19:15] <Kerbero> *no
[19:15] <nuvolari> eh?
[19:15] <nuvolari> what spam?
[19:15] <marcog> https://www.facebook.com/algcircle pushes to https://twitter.com/#!/algcircle
[19:15] <drubin> ubuntu-za is getting HUGE pickup/spam
[19:15] <maiatoday> sorry to move you along but
[19:15] <marcog> and the feedback from it has been really positive
[19:15] <queery> ok well I will repost event's to sulug if I remember
[19:15] <drubin> we have had lots and lots of people unsubscribe :)
[19:15] <maiatoday> Maaz: topic LPI 101 Training Interest
[19:15] <Maaz> Current Topic: LPI 101 Training Interest
[19:15] <Kerbero> nuvolari: no idea, just heard rumours and i'm already on too many mailing lists
[19:15] <nuvolari> :? why do I miss the spam?
[19:16] <maiatoday> this was wesleys topic
[19:16] <oogway> where, with whom ?
[19:16] <maiatoday> kbmonkey
[19:16] <kbmonkey> yes, we had a sudden interest in the LPI exams, linux administration certification for those who missed it
[19:16] <Banlam> what exactly does the LPI entail?
[19:16] <Kerbero> can't me create a seperate mailing list that sends on the other only for events
[19:17] <Kerbero> *we
[19:17] <Banlam> and why do they have pictures of soccer players on their website?
[19:17] <Kerbero> (damn dvorak typo's)
[19:17] <maiatoday> kbmonkey do you have a link
[19:17] <nuvolari> I'm itching so bad to do LPI but I don't have time to study
[19:17]  * kbmonkey finding the link
[19:18] <Banlam> www.lpi.org ?
[19:18] <queery> also want to but no time and no money
[19:18] <kbmonkey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2011-May/007715.html
[19:18] <kbmonkey> thats the mailing list discussion, with links included
[19:18] <oogway> an example: http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/docs/cv/lpi-1.html
[19:19] <Banlam> :P
[19:19] <Kerbero> nice
[19:19] <nuvolari> oogway: boetiful!
[19:19] <kbmonkey> so we were talking about organizing study groups, to help another learn for the LPI 101
[19:19] <Kerbero> nuvolari: nice dvorak typo there
[19:20] <nuvolari> Kerbero: lol, not a typo
[19:20] <kbmonkey> I guess they could be local meets, and IRC study groups could also work
[19:20] <nuvolari> intended
[19:20] <Kerbero> hehe
[19:20] <kbmonkey> I am pretty keen to do this cert, so count me in
[19:20] <inetpro> IRC study groups sounds like a cool idea
[19:20] <queery> whats the cost?
[19:20] <kbmonkey> as long as we help each other with problems, and keep working through the material...
[19:21] <nuvolari> +1 for IRC study groups
[19:21] <kbmonkey> there are training courses in Ct and JHB, but none here in KZN.
[19:21] <kbmonkey> but I am confident and happy to self-learn the 101, hence the study group idea coming in
[19:21]  * inetpro has never seen the study material, how can we get it?
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2011-May/007715.html
[19:22] <oogway> the lpi 101 gets you this: http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/docs/cv/ubuntu.html
[19:22] <oogway> i would like lpi 201 and 202
[19:22] <nuvolari> lo ghostknife
[19:22] <kbmonkey> follow the first link in there inetpro, there are two book links, and one free CC pdf with material
[19:22] <kbmonkey> thx queery :)
[19:22] <ghostknife> nuvolari: pong
[19:23] <queery> np
[19:23] <inetpro> kbmonkey: of course, /me should have followed the link :-)
[19:23] <maiatoday> kbmonkey: do you want people to mail you/ chat after so you guys can organise this, I think we can move on with the meeting or is there a decision that needs to be taken?
[19:24] <kbmonkey> agreed maiatoday
[19:24] <Banlam> the peopel who manage the ICDL in south africa are apparently the people to conact for the IPL in SA, they do have KZN offices
[19:24] <inetpro> Maaz: minutes so far
[19:24] <kbmonkey> I suggest everyone interested join the ZA mailing list, we can start throwing ideas around there
[19:24] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-05-16-17-36-58.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-05-16-17-36-58.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-05-16-17-36-58.html
[19:24] <nuvolari> LPI1 sounds manageable
[19:24] <oogway> Banlam: thx
[19:24] <nuvolari> *looks
[19:24] <maiatoday> okedoke I had a late entry agenda item from oogway, he wants to discuss the new unity interface
[19:25] <Kerbero> o
[19:25] <Kerbero> unity is awesome
[19:25] <maiatoday> I think this is a very wide topic that we can't really make a decision on in this meeting
[19:25]  * nuvolari steps out of unity discussion
[19:25] <Kerbero> few bugs, but i'm impressed
[19:25]  * maiatoday also steps out of the unity discussion
[19:25] <queery> oogway, anything specific?
[19:25] <kbmonkey> haven't used Unity yet
[19:25] <oogway> who uses it now ?
[19:25] <superfly> huh? unity? I'm happy with my KDE 4.6 - it's awesome
[19:25]  * Banlam still runs 10.11
[19:25] <Banlam> *10.10
[19:25]  * Kerbero uses it on both his laptop and main pc now
[19:25] <drubin> Banlam: me too
[19:25] <queery> same Banlam
[19:26] <drubin> ok.. think we really need to end the meeting.
[19:26] <nuvolari> G3 rocks
[19:26] <maiatoday> I use unity but you can poll me about it outside the meeing oogway
[19:26] <oogway> how does it work with touchscreen ?
[19:26] <maiatoday> Maaz: end meeting
[19:26] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:26] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-05-16-17-36-58.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-05-16-17-36-58.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-05-16-17-36-58.html
[19:26]  * inetpro likes the fact that we have so many attendants this evening
[19:26] <drubin> maiatoday: thanks for chairing
[19:26] <Kerbero> ja nogals
[19:26] <kbmonkey> before that topic gets out of control
[19:26] <maiatoday> oogway I haven't tried it with touchscreen
[19:26] <Kilos> maiatoday, thank you for all the hard work
[19:26]  * queery seconds drubin
[19:26] <kbmonkey> thanks maiatoday !
[19:26] <drubin> cheers guys... I need to get back to real work.
[19:27] <drubin> bye bye
[19:27] <nuvolari> that was one of the most active meetings I've attended recently :P
[19:27] <kbmonkey> cheer drubin
[19:27] <Kilos> cheers drubin
[19:27] <nuvolari> cheers drubin
[19:27] <maiatoday> thanks everybody for attending
[19:27] <maiatoday> cheers drubin
[19:27] <inetpro> maiatoday: thanks
[19:27] <nuvolari> ya thanks maiatoday  and drubin for your awesome work :>
[19:28] <oogway> cheers: thx maiatoday
[19:28] <Kilos> cheers oogway
[19:29] <kbmonkey> that was nice
[19:29] <maiatoday> ok people the minutes are up, look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20110516
[19:31] <kbmonkey> how many KZN folk do we have here?
[19:31] <nuvolari> o/
[19:32] <Kilos> isnt oogway also from durbs
[19:32] <maiatoday> kbmonkey: nuvolari: my sister is going to durban soonish
[19:32] <ScorpKing> I'm in Eshowe - KZN
[19:32] <maiatoday> she may be able to take CDs
[19:32] <maiatoday> would you be able to get them?
[19:32] <queery> no Kilos
[19:32] <kbmonkey> that would be fantastic, maia!
[19:32] <maiatoday> or get someone to pick them up?
[19:32] <kbmonkey> Yes of course I would
[19:32] <queery> he is from stellebosch
[19:33] <Kilos> ah ty queery  i mixed up with someone on the za list them
[19:33] <Kilos> then
[19:33] <queery> ok
[19:33] <nuvolari> cool! she can join the KZN-loco :D
[19:33] <Kilos> there are a few guys there but they never on here
[19:33] <inetpro> maiatoday: nice job
[19:33] <Kilos> lists only
[19:33] <nuvolari> oh, just visiting :P
[19:34] <queery> maiatoday, moet ons nie die mailing list weer remind van die IRC group nie?
[19:34] <kbmonkey> Let me know when closer to the time maiatoday, I can get around to collect :)
[19:34] <maiatoday> ons kan maar die mailing list mense is nie altyd irc mense nie
[19:35] <maiatoday> kbmonkey I just spoke to her I'll pm you
[19:35] <kbmonkey> dankie maiatoday !
[19:35] <queery> maiatoday, true
[19:35] <kbmonkey> dis waar queery, ek was nie altyd n IRC persoon nie ;P
[19:36] <queery> hehe
[19:36] <queery> kbmonkey, maar jy is nou...
[19:37] <kbmonkey> I am keen to meet the rest of the kzn peoples
[19:37] <queery> then org a ubuntu hour kbmonkey
[19:37] <queery> or even better a geek dinner
[19:37] <queery> it's in your hands
[19:38] <maiatoday> kbmonkey: if you have CDs people may make the effort to meet for an ubuntu hour
[19:38] <Kilos> geeknic onna beach
[19:38] <maiatoday> yeah that sounds good Kilos
[19:38] <kbmonkey> good point maiatoday, didnt think of that
[19:38] <queery> Maaz, announce kbmonkey will be organising a geek event in KZN
[19:38] <Maaz> Hear ye, hear ye! kbmonkey will be organising a geek event in KZN
[19:38]  * kbmonkey netbook doesn't like sand between it's keys :(
[19:38] <Kilos> yay kbmonkey
[19:38] <queery> it official
[19:38] <Kilos> go natal
[19:39] <kbmonkey> woohoo!
[19:39] <queery> hehe
[19:39] <Kilos> there is that othjer guy in port shepstone as well
[19:39] <Kilos> other
[19:40] <Kilos> dunno where he went this year
[19:40] <Kilos> takes me a week to member his nick everytime
[19:41] <maiatoday> thanks people, I gotta run we'll do this again :)
[19:41] <Kilos> thyanks maiatoday  go well
[19:42] <kbmonkey> okay so meeting halfway, we could do some place in umhlanga, nuvolari? we can work out details this week.
[19:42] <kbmonkey> just a quick body count...
[19:43] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: gateway?
[19:43] <kbmonkey> yesh, how did I miss that one!
[19:43] <queery> maaz, coffee on
[19:43]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[19:43] <queery> anyone else?
[19:43] <Kilos> kbmonkey,  beware of nuvolari . he still falls off bicycles
[19:43] <kbmonkey> Maaz, black label please
[19:43] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Go get it yourself!
[19:44] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[19:44] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[19:44] <kbmonkey> arrr, just had to try ;P
[19:44] <queery> you tell him maaz
[19:44] <nuvolari> lol oom Kilos
[19:44] <Kilos> lol
[19:44] <Kilos> skuus man
[19:45] <kbmonkey> falls off bicycles? _het daai grappie gemis_
[19:45] <Kilos> hehe vertel hom nuvolari
[19:45] <Kilos> we even saw picks
[19:46] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I went for a mountainbike trip...
[19:46] <nuvolari> it turned out badly
[19:46] <kbmonkey> ouch!
[19:46] <Kilos> he forgot when you fall you supposed to put hands out first not nose
[19:47] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery and Kilos!
[19:47] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[19:47] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[19:47] <queery> Maaz, ty
[19:47] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[19:48] <kbmonkey> is okay, I head-butt the floor too, sometimes =D
[19:48] <Kilos> lol
[19:48] <Kilos> i head but other things
[19:48] <Kilos> harder ones
[19:48] <Kilos> but only once
[19:49] <Kilos> thats why i was rebooted
[19:49] <Kilos> kbmonkey, next time you bored go read my blog
[19:49] <Kilos> need coupla hours
[19:51] <kbmonkey> it's on ubuntu-za planet, Kilos ?
[19:51] <Kilos> only the last few
[19:51] <Kilos> Maaz, kilos.blog
[19:51] <Maaz> Kilos: kilos.blog is http://mileyssignificantblog.blogspot.com/
[19:52] <kbmonkey> will do :)
[19:52] <Kilos> koiosify, hi we never met before
[19:53] <koiosify> hi, no my first time on ubuntu-sa
[19:53] <Kilos> koiosify, welcome to ubuntu-za
[19:54] <kbmonkey> welcome koiosify
[19:54] <nuvolari> koiosify: hope you enjoyed the meeting?
[19:54] <queery> welcome koiosify
[19:54] <inetpro> rainking: wb
[19:54] <queery> maaz, welcome koiosify
[19:54] <Maaz> queery: Huh?
[19:54] <queery> that bot sometimes
[19:54] <koiosify> thanx, jpm dragged me in here
[19:54] <koiosify> :)
[19:55] <Kilos> lol sill try fix
[19:55] <Kilos> will
[19:56] <kbmonkey> mental note not to forget what I learned here tonight
[19:56] <queery> thanx oom Kilos
[19:56] <cocooncrash> Maaz: greet koiosify
[19:56] <Maaz> cocooncrash: Sorry...
[19:57] <queery> Maaz, say hello to koiosify
[19:57] <Maaz> hello to koiosify
[19:57] <Kilos> hmmm didnt work
[19:57] <queery> hehe
[19:57] <Kilos> he doesnt see $who before reply
[19:58] <Kilos> cocooncrash, can you help with that when you have time please
[19:59] <queery> so koiosify how long have you been using ubuntu?
[19:59] <koiosify> well um since first year at stellenbosch
[19:59] <queery> oh its TnT
[19:59] <queery> haha
[19:59] <Kilos> lo |3o|3
[19:59] <koiosify> yes
[19:59] <koiosify> :)
[19:59] <|3o|3> sup Kilos
[19:59] <queery> welkom by die groter gemeenskap
[20:00] <Kilos> good ty and you |3o|3
[20:00] <|3o|3> eh...
[20:00] <|3o|3> lets not go there
[20:00] <koiosify> wou al gejoin het
[20:00] <queery> eks bly jys hier
[20:00] <queery> ek moet gaan werk
[20:00] <Kilos> ok
[20:00] <queery> l8er sc8ers
[20:00] <koiosify> maar lyk my almal is oppad by hier by jpm se huis
[20:00] <koiosify> cheers
[20:00] <Kilos> chow queery
[20:02] <Morganvd> hey Kilos
[20:02] <Morganvd> nice blog
[20:02] <Kilos> hey Morganvd
[20:02] <kbmonkey> well time for me to fix my PC now, on the netbook now. I completely borked my desktop yesterday O.o
[20:02] <Kilos> lol did you read all of it?
[20:02] <Kilos> whew
[20:03] <kbmonkey> I will take some time to read Kilos!
[20:03] <Morganvd> nope im going through some of it
[20:03] <Kilos> sorry to hear that kbmonkey
[20:03] <Kilos> oh its kinda long
[20:03] <Morganvd> what are you running on the netbook
[20:04] <kbmonkey> windows 7 *covers and runs*
[20:04]  * Kilos throws stones
[20:04] <kbmonkey> joking! im only kidding! it runs crunchbang linux
[20:04] <kbmonkey> it also has android, and meego - a tri-boot netbook
[20:05] <Kilos> well maybe as you get older and wiser you will only have anything other than ubuntu for testing purposes only
[20:05] <Morganvd> kbmonkey: how is it
[20:06] <kbmonkey> its for playing with new OS's thats why all the variants;)
[20:06] <Morganvd> im typing on my Dell netbook and i installed lubuntu on it
[20:06] <kbmonkey> #! is debian based, just like ubuntu.
[20:06] <Morganvd> must say its very fast with lubuntu
[20:06] <kbmonkey> it uses openbox instead of kde or gnome, so its very lightweight and fast :)
[20:07] <Morganvd> yeah lubuntu uses lxe its fast but plain
[20:07] <Morganvd> been wanting to try out #! on it
[20:07] <Morganvd> hows andriod
[20:08] <kbmonkey> I like lxe too!
[20:08] <Morganvd> i cant get my wifi to work
[20:08] <Morganvd> and it keeps complaining it cant read my sd card
[20:08] <kbmonkey> me neither
[20:08] <Morganvd> what netbook do you have
[20:08] <Morganvd> i haev a dell mini 1018
[20:09] <kbmonkey> msi u100 plus - intel chipsets
[20:09] <kbmonkey> it has a fn+F11 and the CPU overclocks to 2GHz, havent run speed tests against it though
[20:10] <Morganvd> mine has a atom i think 450 with 2gb ddr3 and 160hdd
[20:10] <kbmonkey> yes mine has the same :)
[20:11] <kbmonkey> soz the atom n280
[20:11] <Morganvd> i like that crunchbang has the shortcuts
[20:12] <kbmonkey> I even used it for live dj'ing using mixxx desk :) linux
[20:12] <Morganvd> i find lxe just a bit too plain for my liking
[20:14] <Morganvd> wonder how crashbang will run on it
[20:15] <nuvolari> night all
[20:16] <Morganvd> night nuvolari
[20:16] <Kilos> night nuvolari sleep tight
[20:17] <Morganvd> kbmonkey: does crunchbang come default with xchat?
[20:27] <kbmonkey> hi sorry, im back
[20:27] <kbmonkey> night nuvolari
[20:28] <kbmonkey> yes it does Morganvd, it also uses aptitude which we all love and know
[20:28] <Morganvd> yeah dont like xchat
[20:28] <Morganvd> but ill just remove it
[20:28] <Kilos> eish
[20:28] <Kilos> xchat lekker
[20:28] <Morganvd> nah weechat better for me
[20:29] <Morganvd> i can chat dont need to click
[20:29] <Symmetria> sup all
[20:29] <Kilos> how you switch channels Morganvd
[20:29] <Kilos> hi Symmetria
[20:29] <Morganvd> alt and the number
[20:29] <kbmonkey> I don't click in xchat :p
[20:29] <kbmonkey> alt+#
[20:29] <Morganvd> if it was autoconnect
[20:29] <Symmetria> heh, wow, I just finished writing a network config for one of our clients... *380 LINES* of router config!*
[20:30] <Symmetria> absolutely insane
[20:30] <Kilos> oh i used to use mouse for that if i member right
[20:30] <Morganvd> Kilos: i alt and the left right arrow also changes to the next or prev channel
[20:30] <Kilos> ah
[20:30] <Kerbero> hi Symmetria
[20:31] <kbmonkey> if you find lxde a bit plain Morganvd then openbox uber minimalistic. it doesnt even have a 'start button'
[20:31] <Morganvd> hey Symmetria that is alot
[20:31] <kbmonkey> everything is keyboard navigatable
[20:31] <Morganvd> i cant explain what i mean by plain
[20:31] <Morganvd> it reminds me of windows
[20:32] <Morganvd> im looking at crunchbang now
[20:32] <Morganvd> steller looks nice
[20:32] <Morganvd> and i love commands line
[20:32] <Morganvd> so no start might work better for me
[20:35] <Morganvd> lxe is like kde meet windows xp
[20:42] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[23:26] <queery> night


[00:21] <ikonia> guys, request a tracker/eye be kept on the user zaxius
[00:22] <ikonia> I refused to help him in pm due to him swearing at me and swearing in the main channel
[00:22] <ikonia> he's logged off, but i suspect he'll be back
[00:28] <senior> ola pessoal
[00:30] <senior> * A conversar em #ubuntu-ops
[00:30] <senior> * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops é: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC team info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | Operators, please join #ubuntu-ops-monitor and help hunting down bugs in the FloodBots | The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel
[00:30] <senior> * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops colocado por LjL a Tue Nov 27 01:39:16 2007
[00:30] <senior> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here"
 ola pessoal
[00:31] <senior> * A conversar em #ubuntu-ops
[00:31] <senior> * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops é: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC team info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | Operators, please join #ubuntu-ops-monitor and help hunting down bugs in the FloodBots | The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel
[00:31] <ikonia> what do you want
[00:31] <ikonia> please stop that
[00:31] <senior> * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops colocado por LjL a Tue Nov 27 01:39:16 2007
[00:31] <senior> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here"
 ola pessoal
[00:31] <ikonia> senior: PLEASE stop
 * A conversar em #ubuntu-ops
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[00:31] <ikonia> !ops
 * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops colocado por LjL a Tue Nov 27 01:39:16 2007
 -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here"
[00:31] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[00:31] <ubotu> ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()
 <senior> ola pessoal
[00:31] <ikonia> phew
[00:31] <ikonia> thanks
[00:31] <LjL> what the
[00:31] <ikonia> sorry, had to call
[00:31] <ikonia> that was random
[00:32] <nalioth> !pastebin | senior
[00:32] <ubotu> senior: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:33] <ikonia> he's in an interesting group of channels
[00:33] <LjL> senior, puedes terminar con esto por favor?
 <senior> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-op
[00:34] <senior> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[00:34] <senior> ok
[00:34] <senior> forgivme
[00:34] <senior> vai encher outro
[00:35] <senior> LjL, conheces ogmaciel ele invadiu meu pc
[00:35] <senior> LjL, ele pode invadir meu computador?
[00:35] <LjL> no senior no lo conozco, pero me parece estranho que un operador de canal y developer haga cosas como esta que dices
[00:36] <senior> LjL, mas  sim e ele me confessou para ner os niks ke tive ke usar porcausa de una persona me pertubando
[00:37] <senior> ljl una persona me pertubava e tive ke alterar meu nik e ele invadiu meu pc  e verificou isso
[00:39] <LjL> senior, no sé... pero este canal no tiene nada que hacer con #ubuntu-br u otros canales portugueses... sino tienes logs de lo que pasó?
 * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops é: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | This channel is for operator/abuse questions only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | IRC team info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | Operators, please join #ubuntu-ops-monitor and help hunting down bugs in the FloodBots | The IRC council reserves the right to remove idlers from the channel
 * Tópico para #ubuntu-ops colocado por LjL a Tue Nov 27 01:39:16 2007
 -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here"
 <senior> ola pessoal
 * A conversar em #ubuntu-ops
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[00:41] <LjL> not logs of *this*
[00:42] <LjL> nalioth, he's started doing that in #gentoo-pt now
[00:42] <nalioth> fine
[00:42] <stdin> bantracker shows something similar to that in -us too
[00:42] <LjL> although he's still pasting the #ubuntu-ops topic in there
[00:43] <LjL> #gentoo-br
[00:44] <LjL> #fedora-br
[00:45] <stdin> I'm guessing ##debian-br next
[00:45] <LjL> yeah it's the last one he's in
[00:45] <LjL> but he hasn't started yet
[00:45] <LjL> perhaps he did it already before i joined
[00:46] <LjL> i was always in #ubuntu-br and #ubuntu-pt, but he didn't seem to do anything in there
[00:46] <ikonia> LjL: you speak spanish, or was that bablefish ?
[00:47] <LjL> ikonia, i know some basic spanish, and being italian certainly helps. the fact that he was speaking portuguese didn't help very much, though, and i did use babelfish to translate some of what he said, with scarce results
[00:47] <LjL> i'm not sure whether he was saying someone *else* took his nickname and og then "invaded his computer"... or whatever.
[00:48] <LjL> now he's highlighting me for "help" in several of those channels
[00:48] <ikonia> LjL: impressive
[00:48] <ikonia> yes, I saw your name in his flood
[00:49] <LjL> jrib, around?
[00:49] <elkbuntu> og wouldnt do something like that, so it's paranoia or bullcrapping
[00:49] <ikonia> he was in #ubuntu about 20 minutes ago-ish
[00:49] <jrib> LjL: somewhat, what's up?
[00:49] <LjL> jrib, what do you think this guy meant?
[00:49] <LjL> [01:35:07] <senior> LjL, conheces ogmaciel ele invadiu meu pc
[00:49] <LjL> [01:35:38] <senior> LjL, ele pode invadir meu computador?
[00:49] <LjL> [01:35:55] <LjL> no senior no lo conozco, pero me parece estranho que un operador de canal y developer haga cosas como esta que dices
[00:49] <LjL> [01:36:39] <senior> LjL, mas  sim e ele me confessou para ner os niks ke tive ke usar porcausa de una persona me pertubando
[00:49] <LjL> [01:37:30] <senior> ljl una persona me pertubava e tive ke alterar meu nik e ele invadiu meu pc  e verificou isso
[00:50] <jrib> sounds like a troll
[00:51] <no0tic> really troll, I agree
[00:51] <LjL> jrib: that he does, since he spammed at least some 5 channels. but how was he claiming to be attacked? if he was?
[00:52] <jrib> he just says his computer was "attacked" (compromised) by ogmaciel
[00:52] <LjL> what with the nick?
[00:52] <jrib> hmm?
[00:53] <tonyyarusso> heh, amusing
[00:53] <LjL> alterar meu nik?
[00:54] <jrib> "he admitted that to "something" the nicks I had to use because someone was bothering me"
[00:55] <jrib> "someone was bothering me and I had to change my nick and he invaded my pc and verified that"
[00:55] <no0tic> jrib, it seems random speech
[00:56] <no0tic> jrib, could "e verifcou isso" be "it happened"?
[00:57] <jrib> I'm not familiar with that usage
[00:58] <no0tic> you are the mother tongue, not me :) I was only born in brazil, not grew up there :)
[00:58] <jrib> My guess he was banned, banned evaded, and got caught
[00:59] <jrib> s/banned evaded/ban evaded
[01:00] <LjL> uhm
[01:01] <LjL> the "pc invasion" could be related to the op showing him that he had his IP address
[01:01] <LjL> and the story would then kind of make sense
[05:29] <ubotu> In ubotu, rubbs said: what is ubotu
[05:30] <Myrtti> !bot > rubbs
[05:31]  * GnuKemist needs some help getting OP level heightened in #ubuntu-br
[05:31]  * GnuKemist  == Og Maciel
[05:31] <nalioth> ahh, this business again
[05:31] <Myrtti> hullo GnuKemist :-)
[05:32] <GnuKemist> hello there Myrtti
[05:33] <elkbuntu> nalioth, you should be able to understand what og is saying though :)
[05:33]  * GnuKemist has spent the last 70 minutes dealing with channel hooligans
[05:33] <nalioth> elkbuntu: i don't speak portugues
[05:33] <elkbuntu> nalioth, you're lucky, GnuKemist speaks american
[05:34]  * elkbuntu hugs og
[05:34] <elkbuntu> how are the kiddies?
[05:34] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: hehehe
[05:34] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: doing great!
[05:34] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: the oldest turns 6 in a few days
[05:34] <nalioth> elkbuntu: he wants a portugues speaking staffer to babysit -br
[05:35] <GnuKemist> I would give someone else OP but I don't have the mojo
[05:35] <elkbuntu> nalioth, oh, i didnt read what he said as meaning that
[05:36] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ogmaciel
[05:37] <elkbuntu> GnuKemist, aww, they're gorgeous
[05:37] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: hehehe thanks
[05:37]  * elkbuntu goes and sits in -br, even though she's not going to understand much
[05:38] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: check the ban list
[05:38] <GnuKemist> nalioth, elkbuntu: thanks for being there... your support means a lot to me
[05:39] <GnuKemist> night elkbuntu
[05:39] <elkbuntu> GnuKemist, wanna let us know some bad words to look for?
[05:40] <GnuKemist> elkbuntu: kinda hard since they all use slang
[10:42] <no0tic> jenda, rob?
[10:43] <no0tic> I would like to have a cloak for our italian LoCo channel bot ubot-it
[10:58] <stdin> no0tic: you could get it an unaffiliated cloak, the council would have to approve an @ubuntu/bot cloak
[11:00] <no0tic> stdin, I saw the wiki page about cloaks, our bot satisfies all the requirements, but there's no problem for an unaffiliated one too :)
[11:00] <no0tic> s/saw/read
[11:01] <stdin> no0tic: at least get an unaffiliated cloak for now, then ask a member of the council about an ubuntu cloak
[11:01] <no0tic> ok
[13:22] <Pici> LjL: was that an evade?
[13:23] <LjL> Pici: more likely just a dynamic IP, but well, he really had no reason to think he had been unbanned
[13:23] <LjL> since he refused to even join here
[13:33] <ikonia> LjL: was that the guy from last night who wanted you in his own channel
[13:34] <LjL> yeppers
[13:34] <Pici> I think so...
[13:34] <LjL> he dared join here, after all
[13:34] <LjL> if just for, uhm, 8 seconds
[13:34] <ikonia> ahhh
[13:37]  * OgMaciel hugs elkbuntu good morning
[13:37] <elkbuntu> hi :)
[13:38] <OgMaciel> elkbuntu: I take you had a nice time babysitting?
[13:38] <elkbuntu> i didnt see anything obnoxious, but then again, i dont understand 90% of what is said in there
[13:39] <OgMaciel> :)
[13:39] <LjL> spammer showed up again?
[13:39] <OgMaciel> thanks again for doing that
[13:39] <OgMaciel> LjL: yesterday I had a hard time
[13:39] <LjL> so did we :)
[13:39] <OgMaciel> LjL: I was forced to kick and ban 4 people to restore order
[13:39] <OgMaciel> hmmm
[13:39] <OgMaciel> must have been the moon
[13:39] <OgMaciel> :)
[13:40] <LjL> yeah well one of them decided he'd spam some 5 or 6 unrelated channels as a revenge
[13:40] <OgMaciel> figures
[13:40] <OgMaciel> :/
[13:44] <ikonia> huss is back asking how to use ubotu
[13:44] <ikonia> troll ?
[13:45] <jpatrick> give him !usage > huss?
[13:45] <LjL> nickspammer if nothing else
[13:45] <LjL> did
[15:36] <juano__> how do you become an #ubuntu operator ?
[15:36] <Tm_T> juano__: why asking?
[15:36] <Hobbsee> people are watching, and you get picked for doing good work, and being helpful and balanced.
[15:37] <Hobbsee> ie, not by asking
[15:37] <no0tic> 1) you don't ask to :)
[15:37] <juano__> ahh ops are watching ok :P
[15:37] <Pici> always watching....
[15:37] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:37] <juano__> nah i was just curious :)
[15:38] <Tm_T> juano__: read that page, might reveal enough ;)
[15:38] <juano__> thanks! yea i like helpin people in #ubuntu so i wondered in which other ways i could help
[15:38] <nalioth> juano__: help in #kubuntu, too ?
[15:39] <juano__> nalioth: yea... i go help there sometimes too... now im on gnome so im more on ubuntu than kubuntu :P, but sure
[15:39] <Pici> juano__: there also Answers on launchpad too.
[15:40] <juano__> thanks guys
[16:11] <beuno> hello  :D   I've been getting an enormous amount of off-topic talk in #ubuntu-ar, and I've warned the same users over and over again  (~4-5 hours of random topics)
[16:11] <beuno> what's the procedure here?
[16:11] <no0tic> beuno, ban?
[16:11] <no0tic> beuno, mute?
[16:13] <beuno> no0tic, I've read about a nice /remove command for freenode
[16:13] <beuno> but irssi doesn't like /remove
[16:13] <no0tic> beuno, yes
[16:13] <beuno> am I using it wrong?
[16:13] <no0tic> beuno, irssi doesn't know about remove
[16:14] <no0tic> beuno, you have to create an alias or to send a raw command to the server with /quote remove #chan nick reason
[16:15] <no0tic> beuno, it's  better for you to create an alias like /alias remove quote remove $0 $1 :$2-
[16:15] <beuno> no0tic, worked like a charm
[16:15] <beuno> thanks  :D
[16:16] <no0tic> beuno, ah, any "long reason" has to be preceded by a semicolon
[16:17] <beuno> no0tic, as in /remove #chan nick long reason;?
[16:17] <beuno> ah, remove doesn't ban people, they just rejoined and kept on talking
[16:17] <no0tic> beuno, sorry, I meant ":" before "long reason"
[16:18] <no0tic> beuno, yes, remove is a "friendly" kick
[16:18] <no0tic> beuno, as you are a loco op you should join #ubuntu-irc, that is the right channel to talk about such things
[16:19] <beuno> no0tic, aah, right, sorry, will do
[16:19] <beuno> thanks again
[17:08] <Myrtti> sidenote: didn't get the apartment
[17:17] <PriceChild> aww :(
[17:17] <Pici> :(
[17:20] <Myrtti> pessimist are never disappointed
[17:20] <Myrtti> pessimists even
[17:20] <PriceChild> hehe
[17:21] <jdong> Myrtti: actually, we are when things go right.
[17:22] <Myrtti> no, then it's a happy surprise
[17:23] <jdong> lol you're an optimistic pessimist
[17:23] <Pici> its like 'oh?'
[17:37] <jenda> no0tic: hmm?
[17:37]  * jenda got pung 7 hours ago :)
[17:38] <Pici> Something about a bot cloak
[17:38] <no0tic> jenda, ah yes a bot cloak :) but now the real owner is not here
[17:39] <jenda> no0tic: :(
[17:39] <jenda> once the owner comes, prod any active staffer :)
[17:41] <no0tic> jenda, anyway stdin told me to request first an unaffiliated cloak for it, because irc concil must approve our bot before giving it an ubuntu one
[17:43] <jdong> jenda: got pung? :P
[17:43] <jdong> jenda: the Internet Verbiation Consortium ruled unanimously it's ping/pinged/pinged :P
[17:44] <jenda> no0tic: that is correct
[17:44] <no0tic> jdong, I think jenda is right, ping pung pong :)
[17:44] <jenda> no0tic: what's the bot's nick, and who's the owner?
[17:44] <jenda> no0tic: ping, pang, pung ;)
[17:44] <Pici> ping pang pung
[17:44] <jdong> no, ping pinged pinged.
[17:44] <no0tic> jenda, ubot-it, the owner is twilight
[17:44]  * jenda pinged jdong
[17:45]  * jdong was pinged by jenda
[17:45] <no0tic> sounds like a tongue-twister
[17:45] <jenda> no0tic: yah, I need twilight to ask for it, then.
[17:45] <jenda> jdong: you are wrong, as always.
[17:45]  * Pici pinged PriceChild precariously
[17:45] <jdong> jenda: you are czech.
[17:46] <PriceChild> Pici, what's up?
[17:46] <jdong> PriceChild: you.
[17:46] <Pici> PriceChild: er, nothing/
[17:46]  * jdong ducks
[17:46] <PriceChild> wrong
[17:46] <PriceChild> the ceiling is
[17:46] <PriceChild> and clouds
[17:46] <PriceChild> the sky
[17:46] <PriceChild> planes
[17:46] <PriceChild> birds occasinoally
[17:46] <jdong> PriceChild: not all planes
[17:46] <no0tic> jenda, that's why I pung (pang? pinged?) you 6 hours ago :)
[17:46] <jenda> PriceChild: no clouds in my beautiful city :)
[17:46] <jenda> no0tic: :)
[17:46] <PriceChild> jenda, something wrong iwth it then
[17:46] <jdong> PriceChild: there's a few that don't stay up there
[17:46] <PriceChild> stars
[17:46] <PriceChild> the moon....
[17:46] <PriceChild> "I am the moon"
[17:46] <jdong> PriceChild: then we get hour long National Geographic specials! yay!
[17:46] <PriceChild> "haha the imposter got munched down by jupiter like a kitkat"
[17:47] <PriceChild> jdong, thankyou for that
[17:47] <jdong> PriceChild: absolutely welcome. I'm sure you love watching them as much as I do :)
[17:47] <PriceChild> of course
[17:47] <PriceChild> Pici, how can I help?
[17:47] <Pici> PriceChild: You could dance
[17:47] <jdong> PriceChild: once I was watching an episode on a plane ride though, and the flight attendant asked me to shut it off....
[17:48] <jdong> I thought that was rude.
[17:48] <PriceChild> Pici, ok what I'm trying to say is.... WHY DID YOU PING ME?!?!?!?!?!? :P
[17:48] <Pici> PriceChild: I was looking for another name that tounge twisted with pici pings
[17:48] <jenda> !caps
[17:48] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:48]  * jenda caps PriceChild :)
[17:48] <PriceChild> Hello jenda :)
[17:48] <jenda> heya ;)
[17:48] <Pici> PriceChild: you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming
[17:48] <PriceChild> By jenda :)
[17:48] <PriceChild> *Bye
[17:49] <jenda> byea :)
[17:50] <Myrtti> poit
[17:50] <jenda> wow, just found out I can't play .rm files :(
[17:50] <jenda> heya, Myrtti :)
[17:50] <Myrtti> I'm through with crying now, wow
[17:50] <Myrtti> gosh I would've loved that apartment
[17:50]  * Daviey slaps Myrtti
[17:51] <Myrtti> *puf*
[17:51] <Myrtti> there, it's gone
[17:51] <Daviey> It's not Panto yet!
[17:53] <Seeker`> Myrtti: You didn't get it? :(
[17:54] <Myrtti> nope
[17:54] <Seeker`> aww
[18:22] <no0tic> jenda, twilight is here :)
[18:23] <jdong> no0tic: but but but.. it's still morning here
[18:23] <jenda> no0tic: no, actually, the sun has been down for a few hours :)
[18:23] <no0tic> jdong, here it's 7.23 pm
[18:23] <jenda> ah, damn, jdong stole my joke :D
[18:24]  * jenda highfives same-timezone-buddy no0tic
[18:24] <jenda> :D
[18:24] <jdong> score 1 for jdong
[18:24] <no0tic> lol :) well...
[18:24] <twilight> ahahah...hello there :)
[18:24] <jenda> twilight: so, ubot-it is your bot, and you want it unaff cloaked?
[18:25] <twilight> jenda: it's the bot of #ubuntu-it-*, i'm the administrator :) yes, we believe that the bot respects all the conditions about bot cloaks
[18:26] <jenda> ah
[18:26] <jenda> I see
[18:26] <nalioth> twilight: it needs an email address
[18:26] <jenda> twilight: and can you make it PM me with the cloak request? :)
[18:27] <jenda> indeed, it needs an email address, and I'd also recommend the master nick to be ubotit, to make a nicer cloak.
[18:27] <twilight> uhm, the #ubuntu-it people will suffer :)
[18:28] <twilight> ok
[18:28] <jenda> twilight: no, nalioth just corrected me, the hyphen is ok.
[18:28] <jenda> sorry :)
[18:28] <twilight> np :)
[18:28]  * jenda has come out of practice :(
[18:29] <twilight> ok, than, we have to 1) set the email address 2) ubot-it has to query you (jenda)? (out of practice, too ;) )
[18:30] <jenda> twilight: yep, that's teh best way to do it :)
[18:31] <twilight> ok jenda, thanks. give me 2 minutes :)
[18:57] <ubot-it> jenda: are you there? (sorry if you're busy, i want to be sure that you've seen the query ;) )
[19:03] <nalioth> jenda is not the only staffer around, ubot-it twilight
[19:05] <no0tic> nalioth, perfectly in time, he is just gone away for dinner :)
[19:13] <jenda> no0tic: indeed!
[19:13] <jenda> back now, sorry
[19:14]  * jenda late, he sees...
[19:14] <jenda> oh well
[19:15] <PriceChild> Martinp23, hey, how can we help?
[19:15] <Martinp23> Hi PriceChild :)
[19:16] <Martinp23> I've just looking for the relevant bans so I can be more specific when I eventually ask.
[19:16] <ST47_> 62;9;c/redraw
[19:16] <ST47_> ...
[19:16] <ST47_> Yeah, irssi is broken.
[19:16] <ST47_> THere we go
[19:17] <ST47_> Can one of you please unban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:17] <PriceChild> Martinp23, give us the person and we can find them quicker
[19:17] <PriceChild> one moment
[19:17] <Pici> er.
[19:17] <PriceChild> he went....
[19:17] <Martinp23> PriceChild: It's ban nubmer 66 on the irssi list.  What ST47 said :)
[19:18] <PriceChild><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[19:18] <Martinp23> That's the one.
[19:18] <Martinp23> It's the wikimedia toolserver, all access restricted and such, so I can't see it being abusive at any point (and it's causing ST47 problems joining #ubuntu )
[19:21] <PriceChild> Hmm nothing ont he bantracker
[19:21] <Pici> Nothing? I see something
[19:21] <PriceChild> Do you perhaps mean hemlock.ts.wikimedia.org ?
[19:21] <PriceChild> rather than hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org ?
[19:22] <PriceChild> (the only *wikimedia.org ban)
[19:22] <Pici> I searched for hemlock
[19:22] <Martinp23> PriceChild: Argh yes, sorry.
[19:22] <PriceChild> Pici, hehe ;)
[19:23]  * Martinp23 still hasn't got used to it, even though they changed the name several weeks ago :D
[19:23] <PriceChild> Hmmmm I can't make sense of these logs.... bot attack it seems
[19:23] <PriceChild> a user by the name of "NeM432" joins, then is kickbanned
[19:24] <Pici> I wonder if its in my logs at all /me checks
[19:24] <PriceChild> Seveas, are you around?
[19:24] <Seveas> yes
[19:24] <Seveas> hemlock is banned bacause ST47 is banned
[19:25] <Seveas> he is not welcome with his foul mouth
[19:26] <PriceChild> Martinp23, ^
[19:27] <Martinp23> Seveas: Ahh.  There are 4 or 5 other users using irssi on the toolserver, so perhaps the ban could be adjusted to be slightly more specific?
[19:27] <Seveas> no, he's threatened to simply change nick/ident
[19:27] <Seveas> it's not our fault wikimedia hands trolls a shell account
[19:28] <Martinp23> Really?  He could probably have easily evaded the ban by using his home account had he wanted to..
[19:28] <ompaul> perhaps
[19:28] <Seveas> he did, which was banned
[19:28] <Pici> We don't take lightly to ban evasion.
[19:28] <Seveas> ('t was the other way around actually)
[19:29] <Martinp23> Ahh I see :\. (and understand the stance on ban evasion - I share it)
[19:29] <Pici> Hm, seems it yes.
[19:29] <ompaul> Martinp23, it is not the only place with such a ban
[19:30] <nalioth> PriceChild: are we repelling boarders?
[19:30] <ompaul> pity some people insist on trolling without thought to those who might be impacted, they care not for their friends or associates  methinks
[19:31] <PriceChild> nalioth, no, I just -c'd as someone wanted to see if their client worked properly.... and now they're just playing
[19:31] <PriceChild> will +c in 2 mins when i disappear
[19:31] <Martinp23> ompaul: Mmm yes - I can understand why, at time.  I'm just really looking for an unban for the toolserver - I came here after someone mentioned the issue to me and it seemed to me like a possible mistake.
[19:31] <Martinp23> Will it be OK if I send anybody who tells me that they're impacted by it to here, so that they can, if appropraite, get an exemption?
[19:32] <Seveas> that's defintely ok
[19:32] <Pici> Martinp23: If you're logged into the toolserver, can you just identify to your account and get your cloak? or does the toolserver mask serve another purpose?
[19:32] <Seveas> Pici, cloaks don't defeat hostname bans
[19:33] <Pici> Seveas: they dont? oh, news to me.
[19:33] <Seveas> well, that's as far as I know
[19:33] <ompaul> Pici, want to test ;-)
[19:33] <Seveas> nalioth, can you comfirm/deny?
[19:33] <PriceChild> I thought a hostname was a kind of cloak?
[19:33] <Martinp23> Pici: Yes, strange that some people don't do that.  Perhaps it's a case of most users of the toolserver having a wikimedia cloak on their main nick, which would be redundant to the "wikimedia" in the host mask.
[19:34] <nalioth> Seveas: confirmed
[19:34] <PriceChild> i thought hostnames don't beat ip bans
[19:34] <PriceChild> ah so it does that too
[19:34]  * nalioth confirms that too much ban evasion leads to klines
[19:35] <Martinp23> Pici: I mean "the wikimedia in the hostname of the toolserver" - it also probably gives those who use it a desire to show that they're using a wikimedia server (for whatever reason...). :)
[19:35] <Pici> Righto
[19:40] <no0tic> nalioth, excess flood is based on IP or nicks?
[19:41] <nalioth> no0tic: excess flood is based on your clients output
[19:49] <twilight> thanks nalioth
[20:39] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[20:40] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: you can remove that
[20:41] <tonyyarusso> ok
[21:23] <Seeker`> erm... "DickShow_CAM" in #ubuntu...
[21:25] <rmaj> hello
[21:25] <rmaj> how to join #ubuntu ?
[21:26] <nalioth> rmaj: type /j #ubuntu  < press enter key >
[21:26] <rmaj> nalioth: you are banned from this channel
[21:27] <rmaj> I used phrase making-love, but worded differently
[21:27] <Seveas> --- Bans matching<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(rmaj)
[21:27] <Seveas> ---<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:31] <Seeker`> does anyone else think that is an inappropriate nickname?
[21:32] <tonyyarusso> Seeker`: yes, but I'm pondering whether to do anything about it until he actually says something
[21:33] <no0tic> Seeker`, inappropiate nickname? why?
[21:33] <no0tic> I don't get it
[21:34] <Seeker`> it sounds to me like an offer to show his genitals on a webcam
[21:35] <Seveas> Seeker`, which?
[21:35] <Seeker`> Seveas: DickShow_CAM
[21:36] <no0tic> Seeker`, aah
[21:36] <Seeker`> I may just have a twisted mind, but I cant really think of an "innocent" alternative
[21:37] <TheSheep> Seeker`: what if his name is Richard? ;)
[21:38] <Seeker`> what exactly is he showing on cam? and why does it need to be advertised?
[21:38] <TheSheep> Seeker`: maybe the CAM stands for 'camouflage'? ;)
[21:39] <TheSheep> thus, he's not advertising, he's hiding
[21:39] <nalioth> he's not idle
[21:39] <Seeker`> yeah, cause the best way of hiding is to say "LOOK AT ME! I'M HIDING!"
[21:40] <TheSheep> Seeker`: yu wanted alternative interpretations, sorry, that's the best I can think of
[21:41] <Seeker`> i'm sure there are numerous innocent alternatives that are incredibly unlikely :P
[21:43] <nalioth> well, it's gone now
[21:55] <Tm_T> rmaj_: when did I kick you?
[22:04] <rmaj_> Tm_T: dunno
[22:04] <rmaj_> Tm_T: well someone did
[22:04] <Mez|OnAir> check the bantracker!
[22:04] <Tm_T> rmaj_: I didn't, I'm sure
[22:04] <rmaj_> so why I can't join #ubuntu
[22:05] <Tm_T> I cannot say
[22:05] <Tm_T> also I'm busy, sory I can't help you now ->
[22:05] <stdin> "2007-12-10T21:14:52 <rmaj> #kde says that the gayass dialog when pressing (physical) power button is ubuntu's fault. where can I configure it to just shutdown?>"  that is why you were banned from #ubuntu
[22:17] <rmaj_> stdin: ah
[22:17] <rmaj_> ok next time I would just say stupid dialog
[23:44] <ompaul> mc44, you called
[23:44] <ompaul> how can we help you
[23:44] <mc44> ompaul: you could fix my crappy router ;)
[23:45] <ompaul> don't think so
[23:45] <ompaul> see keith chegwin for swap shop
[23:47] <LjL> i route my packets using a railway switch
[23:48] <ubotu> kitche called the ops in #ubuntu (Bomfunk)
[23:48] <LjL> was it just me, or did chanserv take like half a geological era to respond?
[23:49] <LjL> pff
[23:49] <Pici> pfft
[23:49] <LjL> pfffffft!
[23:50]  * Pici wipes off his glasses
[23:50] <Pici> yuck
[23:51] <ikonia> `
[23:51] <no0tic> hi LjL
[23:51] <LjL> boo
[23:53]  * no0tic 30h without sleeping and going on
[23:53] <LjL> if that suits you
[23:54] <no0tic> nobody to remove or ban today, what a boring day for me
[23:55]  * Seeker` hasn't removed or banned anyone in ages
[23:56] <LjL> well when that happens, i just *make* it stop
[23:56] <LjL> like this
[23:56] <Tm_T> ...
[23:57] <LjL> uhm i think a channel just disappeared from my list, but i'm not sure which one
[23:57] <no0tic> LjL, uhm.. probably the worst I could choose
[23:57] <LjL> ah. indeed.
[23:57] <LjL> but /me is forgetful and forgiving
[23:57] <LjL> (not)
[23:58] <no0tic> you calmed my op thirst, thanks
[23:58] <LjL> yw


[01:02] <elky> i guess there's an effort being organised somewhere
[01:02]  * rww gets out the cannon
[01:06] <elky> the guy he pmd says he's not being problematic in pm yet
[14:20] <k1l> !paste
 id rather kill mself
 then use ubuntu
[15:10] <bazhang> incoming
[15:23] <bazhang> thats the same IP as above (ryan99)
[15:23] <k1l> muted that gateway ip
[15:24] <bazhang> same exact 'fbi hacker' got him banned in #debian just prior
[15:25] <k1l> yep, same ip as the node guy
[15:26] <IdleOne> same as last night too?
[15:31] <k1l> not with that ip. but 13 joins today
[21:33] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu jondavis asking for windows support several times because he doesnt get the attention he wanted
[21:34] <k1l_> !guidelines > jondavis


[05:26] <shadeslayer_> Quintasan_: kio-mtp bugs go to bugs.kde.org
[05:27] <shadeslayer_> hmph
[05:27] <shadeslayer_> quasselcore is down
[07:19] <soee> good morning
[07:19] <shadeslayer_> hi soee
[07:49] <soee> tomorrow RC2 ?
[07:50] <shadeslayer_> yep
[08:46] <soee> can you recommend some password manager ? (crossplatform) ?
[08:49] <jussi> soee: lastpass
[08:50] <soee> yeah just googled and found it :)
[08:50] <jussi> :)
[08:50] <soee> it works as brwoser plugin ?
[08:58] <jussi> soee: think so, not certain
[08:58] <jussi> Dad uses it religiously
[09:05] <Tm_T> keepassx, I would love to use kwallet more often though
[10:26] <shadeslayer_> ScottK: could you look at libtelepathy-logger3 in New?
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:44] <soee> i have KDE installed over Unity, now i have removed unity and when running apt-get autoremove on the packages to remove i have also mentioned: kde-base-artwork kde-wallpapers-default kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins
[12:44] <soee> is it safe to remove them ?
[13:07] <shadeslayer> errr
[13:07] <shadeslayer> soee: can you install kubuntu-desktop
[13:07] <shadeslayer> to make sure all the necessary things are on the system
[13:08] <soee> shadeslayer, yes just did it, and those packages are not listed anymore to be autoremove
[13:08] <shadeslayer> cool
[13:17] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: The funny thing is that mtp != mtp
[13:18] <Quintasan> I can connect my TF101 just fine
[13:18] <shadeslayer> huh wut?
[13:18] <shadeslayer> mtp != mtp?
[13:18] <Quintasan> yeah
[13:18] <Quintasan> I can connect my tf101 using kio-mtp
[13:18] <shadeslayer> well yeah, if you think OEM's actually followed standards then lol
[13:19] <Quintasan> yeah
[13:19] <Quintasan> I thought they did
[13:19] <Quintasan> but what the hell I was thinking?
[19:42] <yofel> rc2 tars are up
[22:13] <ScottK> yofel: How'd the kdelibs build on armhf go?
[22:14] <yofel> it's at 82%, had to restart it today in the morning because I made a mistake in the pbuilder setup
[22:16] <ScottK> OK.
[22:27] <yofel> rc2 uploaded to ninjas
[22:27] <yofel> (raring)
[22:28] <Riddell> yofel: excellent


[12:01] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Jonathan Carter: Free Software Activities (2019-08) @ https://jonathancarter.org/2019/09/02/free-software-activities-2019-08/
[12:24] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: How to Check Ubuntu Version Number [Quick Tip] @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=152195 (by Joey Sneddon)
[18:35] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Sam Hewitt: Suspending Patreon @ https://samuelhewitt.com/blog/2019-09-02-suspending-my-patreon-page
[18:48] <Bashing-om> Pulling "WIP" - target time to push remains as 20:00GMT .
[19:51] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: New SparkyLinux Rolling Release Based on Debian Bullseye Ships with Xfce 4.14 @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-sparkylinux-rolling-release-based-on-debian-bullseye-ships-with-xfce-4-14-527238.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[20:02] <Bashing-om> M/L is away - doing the forum posting next :D
[20:04] <EoflaOE> Hello Bashing-om.
[20:06] <Bashing-om> EoflaOE: :D
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Forum post done - doing the re-directs next.
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Re-directs done - Pending now is the social medias.
[20:33] <EoflaOE> Bashing-om: Nice. By the way what are the redirects for?
[20:38] <Bashing-om> EoflaOE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter and  /current link - set to the current issue; add the previous issue : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive .
[20:38] <EoflaOE> Baahing-om: Thanka
[20:38] <EoflaOE> Thanks*
[20:39] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, doing fridge now
[20:40] <Bashing-om> EoflaOE: Glad you are hanging in here with us . There is a bunch to getting the letter out . Folks before us did a LOT of work !
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :D
[20:41] <EoflaOE> Bashing-om: OK. Thanks
[20:48] <Wild_Man> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/09/02/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-594/
[20:48] <EoflaOE> Thanks for making fridge blog post Wild_Man
[20:51] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, Social Media done!
[20:52] <Wild_Man> Your welcome EoflaOE feel free to join us on the forums here https://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php and in the irc chat here #ubuntuforums
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Fridge looks good, and spot checks check , We wipe Gdoc and now do UWN595 ?
[20:53] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, yep sounds good
[20:53] <Bashing-om> EoflaOE: Ya want to wipe .. or I do it ?
[20:54] <EoflaOE> Bashing-om: You do. I do it in the next issue.
[20:55] <EoflaOE> Wild_Man: I jave joined it in the past, but it seems that I have to change it to EoflaOE because I made it use my real name. I will join the channel.
[20:56] <EoflaOE> Joined the channel. Setting my forum account up now...
[21:04] <Bashing-om> We do UWN595 :D
[21:06] <Wild_Man> Thanks Bashing-om great job!
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Not much to do this issue :) .. but we all pitched in to get it done :P
[21:11] <Wild_Man> That is really good
[21:18] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 594 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/09/02/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-594/
[21:29] <Bashing-om> guiverc: All published this issue :P
[21:29] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Kali Linux Ethical Hacking OS Switches to Linux 5.2, Now Supports OnePlus 7 @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/kali-linux-ethical-hacking-os-switches-to-linux-5-2-now-supports-oneplus-7-527239.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[21:30] <guiverc> :) & thanks Bashing-om
[21:30] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Would not have done it without you :D


[15:00] <Dekkard> whatever happened to Jorge?
[16:26] <jrwren> He is still around. He likes that fedora always updated distro now, blue-something or another
[16:26] <jrwren> He still does community/devrel for kubernetes things.
[16:27] <jrwren> I ran into him at kubecon in detroit a few months ago. Was nice to see him.
[18:49] <greg-g> Silverblue, which I actually switched to recently as well ;)
[23:00] <Dekkard> lol... silverblue
[23:01] <Dekkard> crazy.. on the ubuntu loco.. I've been running fedora for..at least two years now
[23:03] <Dekkard> good to see some locals anyway


[10:02] <elfy> hi - not sure what to report this against, or even if it's been reported, a bit hard to tell from the bug list
[10:03] <elfy> installed xorg-erver-mir and unity- system-compositor into an up to date saucy xubuntu - I'm finding it slow to keep up with scrolling of things like firefox tabs/xchat channel scrollback is particularly bad
[10:04] <elfy> it's not the same as the typing slow in a terminal issue we saw - that appears to have gone
[15:25] <Vitor> hello i need some help about graphical support for ubuntu
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Vitor, you mean, Mir?
[15:26] <Vitor> somehow yeah
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Vitor, what's the problem?
[15:27] <Vitor> i have some problems with all unix versions and i think i has something to do with the latest kernel and i would like to know if mir fix that
[15:27] <smspillaz> elfy: I've noticed that the displayed frames don't always keep up with the surface submitted frames
[15:28] <smspillaz> elfy: I think its a known issue?
[15:28] <Vitor> the prob its that if i install any of the last unix versions like ubuntu 13.10 or mint 15  my screen foes black and i cant do anything...
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Vitor, Ubuntu 13.10 is NOT recommended for end-users
[15:29] <Vitor> soz my bad i mean 13.04
[15:30] <Vitor> on installation i run the usb or cd and it goes all black
[15:30] <smartboyhw> Vitor, Mir isn't available for 13.04...
[15:30] <smartboyhw> And I don't think Mir can help you if you even can't install
[15:31] <Vitor> yeah but do u know where can i have more details bout that my graphical problems on linux?
[15:31] <smartboyhw> !xorg
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Vitor, I really don't know.. And to be honest, #ubuntu or ##linux might be a better idea
[15:31] <Vitor> i tried ubuntu channel but noone ever answer ...
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Vitor, try again tomorrow, there are less people answering on weekends
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Try ##linux also
[15:40] <elfy> smspillaz: sounds like the thing I've seen - unfrtunately  I'm not able to see if any of the existing bugs are this - I'll just try mir again sometime before Xubuntu need to make a decision
[15:40] <elfy> thanks though:)
[15:55] <smspillaz> elfy: I'm not entirely sure at the moment. The client I'm working on now I know has some issues to do with frames being submitted at the wrong time so I could just be that we're seeing different things
[15:55] <smspillaz> *it could jsut be
[15:55] <smspillaz> late-night typing is not working very well I see ...
[16:03] <elfy> :)
[22:57] <robert_ancell> RAOF, hey, why did we need to split out libmirplatform?
[22:58] <robert_ancell> I thought we should, but I couldn't think of a reason why
[22:59] <robert_ancell> thomi, btw, I arrive a day later to Lexington due to holiday and decided to go to NYC for the weekend so no flight overlap
[23:00] <robert_ancell> Interestingly none of the options from the travel agent had bad layovers
[23:18] <thomi> robert_ancell: you're hitting NYC on the way home?
[23:18] <robert_ancell> thomi, yep
[23:18] <thomi> cool :)
[23:18] <thomi> maybe the flights from NYC are better somehow
[23:19] <thomi> anyway, my layover isn't too bad I suppose
[23:19] <robert_ancell> thomi, I also had the options for the Boston flights, and they weren't bad. Though they were flying on Friday and I asked for Saturday flights
[23:20] <thomi> ahhh, that might be it - I needed Satureday flights
[23:20] <robert_ancell> So maybe Sat is a bad day to fly
[23:20] <thomi> yeah
[23:20] <robert_ancell> grr, why did dufly arbitrarily bump the soname on libmirserver?
[23:21] <robert_ancell> thomi, do you know if bug 1210811 is still applicable? Looks like some packages got temporarily out of syn
[23:21] <robert_ancell> c
[23:21] <thomi> robert_ancell: I don't know, I was going to ask you about that today
[23:22] <thomi> robert_ancell: I can kick off the test jobs again, and try and go through the results again
[23:22] <thomi> robert_ancell: however, it's worrying that this can get all the way into distro!
[23:22] <thomi> hmmm, actually, maybe robotfuel is still using the ppa
[23:22] <robert_ancell> thomi, ah, I see it
[23:23] <thomi> oh?
[23:23] <robert_ancell> libmirserver is one day ahead of u-s-c
[23:23] <robert_ancell> Though, they should be versioned to make that impossible to install
[23:24] <robert_ancell> hum, not sure,
[23:24] <robert_ancell> u-s-c is 0.0.1+13.10.20130809.1-0ubuntu1
[23:24] <robert_ancell> Dependencies.txt shows libmirserver1 0.0.8+13.10.20130810-0ubuntu1
[23:24] <robert_ancell> Not sure if those match or not. Need to check with didrocks
[23:24] <thomi> ok
[23:28] <RAOF> robert_ancell: Because libmirserver is SOVERSIONED, but libmirplatform isn't. So when libmirserver bumps SONAME conflicts happen.
[23:28] <robert_ancell> RAOF, conflicts between?
[23:29] <robert_ancell> Oh, you can't have both packages installed?
[23:29] <RAOF> Yah
[23:29] <robert_ancell> bingo
[23:31] <robert_ancell> RAOF, so debian/rules is now wrong right - it refers to libmirserver0
[23:31] <robert_ancell> I think that's the cause of bug 1210811
[23:31] <RAOF> Flying home via NYC?
[23:31] <RAOF> Ah, yes. Balls
[23:31] <robert_ancell> I'll fix it..
[23:36] <robert_ancell> RAOF, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/mir/fix-exact-version-dependency/+merge/179619
[23:37] <RAOF> Done and approved.
[23:39] <RAOF> Are you guys flying in on Friday & Saturday? Why not Sunday?
[23:39] <robert_ancell> RAOF, I'm flying in Monday night, because I have a long weekend booked
[23:40] <RAOF> Heh. Well timed!
[23:40] <robert_ancell> Good old timezones make it possible to arrive at a reasonable time
[23:40] <robert_ancell> Should get there midnight
[23:42] <RAOF> I should get there 9-10ish Sunday.
[23:54] <robert_ancell> RAOF, do we have a catch-all comment for issues like bug 1210646?
[23:55] <robert_ancell> Also, I love the me too comment. "I have exactly the same problem but I'll describe a different symptom and entirely different hardware"
[23:56] <robert_ancell> By catch-all I mean a "Do steps x,y,z to give us enough info to diagnose video hardware problems"
[23:58] <RAOF> )
[23:58] <RAOF> :)
[23:59] <RAOF> robert_ancell: I don't have a pre-canned resopnse.