[03:19] <ubptgbot> Atul was added by: Atul
 Hey @UniversalSuperBox how did you acquire ssh for nexus 5x?
 @Camden B [I was going to be developing with it.], You can find help with it in https://t.me/UBports_Lomiri
 Hey! Is there any way to check cpu temperature of device?
 @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Hey @UniversalSuperBox how did you acquire ssh for nexus 5x?], Hmm dont tell me you are still working on it 😆
 @mrcyjanek [Hey! Is there any way to check cpu temperature of device?], Depends on the hardware in the device, but probably the drivers expose smth in /sys/class/hwmon and /sys/class/thermal. Go get a look there
 @Flohack [Depends on the hardware in the device, but probably the drivers expose smth in / …], Ok, thanks!
 @Flohack [Hmm dont tell me you are still working on it 😆], Actually, I stopped working on it.
 @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Actually, I stopped working on it.], Maybe good decision. Maybe, if I am mad enough after finishing Nexus 6P I will look at 5X lel
 I read somewhere Dalton successfully accessed it via SSH
 Not sure how he did.
 @Flohack [Maybe good decision. Maybe, if I am mad enough after finishing Nexus 6P I will l …], I thought Dalton pretty much wrote off the possibility of a port to the 5X.
 @wayneTBT [I thought Dalton pretty much wrote off the possibility of a port to the 5X.], Yes thats why I said if I am mad enough ^^ it probably will only be for educative reasons
 hah, ok, fair enough.
[07:59] <ubptgbot> Umarakhalifa was added by: Umarakhalifa
[10:58] <ubptgbot> Beer was added by: Beer
 (Photo, 695x434) https://irc.ubports.com/So2js002.png Hi everyone! … I checked the devices.ubuntu-touch.io site, and saw this picture:
 Are they are running ubuntu touch? How can I change the screensaver to be as the left and middle one? I cannot find that option
 Ubuntu Touch one is on the right
 @Beer [Are they are running ubuntu touch? How can I change the screensaver to be as the …], The one on the left is VollaOS, the middle is Sailfish OS and the right is Ubuntu Touch. The right one should really show the notch as seen in the middle, because the currently shipping phone has a notch.
 @Mokmeister [The one on the left is VollaOS, the middle is Sailfish OS and the right is Ubunt …], True, it seems we did some photoshopping there 😆
 See also screenshots at the end of https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/523
[11:13] <gitbot> ubports issue 523 in ubuntu-touch "UI support for the phones with a notch" [Opinion, Open]
 @Flohack [See also screenshots at the end of https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issue …], device specific offsets to reposition UI elements seems a good idea as a quick fix rather than changing the UI altogether.
 @Mokmeister [device specific offsets to reposition UI elements seems a good idea as a quick f …], Yes thats the only thing we can do right now ^^ so less time than what we would need to make big changes haha
[12:03] <ubptgbot> Janith96 was added by: Janith96
 hi
 I am new to here.
 welcome
 do you have any questions?
 @Mokmeister [The one on the left is VollaOS, the middle is Sailfish OS and the right is Ubunt …], Alright! Thanks!
 also it's not really a screensaver xD
 @Fuseteam [also it's not really a screensaver xD], lockscreen ;)
 What is the advantage of a server-based notification system over notifications directly from the app?
 The app doesn't need to be running all the time and waste resources
 so it saves battery
 @j2g2rp [do you have any questions?], what topic?
[12:45] <ubptgbot> harkishansingh was added by: harkishansingh
 @Fuseteam [so it saves battery], A LOT of battery. Most apps try to be very responsive so they might do prefetching of data, housekeeping etc. plus they also account for transfer volume which is sometimes an unwanted spend
 Push notifications are a few byte of data, and the transfer protocol is ultralight
 Without app suspension the CPU wont go to sleep, the clocks are running etc. Thats whats partially still happening on the Pinephone and therefore the endurance is limited still
 @Janith96 [what topic?], about Ubuntu touch of course
 ah interesting
 thanks for the insight
 So that's what unique about ut?
 I got 1 day battery on a device which gets 9 hours on Android
 unique? it's the first mature mobile linux that is not android :^3
 and well it has less background processes and less unexplainable apps, also all default apps are opensource
 To such an degree that the default keyboard can be modified to look this:
 UT's idle battery is generally great
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/iJMu0vvD.png
 and yes the idle battery is great, and the multitasking swipe gestures
 @Fuseteam [unique? it's the first mature mobile linux that is not android :^3], or WebOS, or Tizen, or ...
 Isn't webos TV and tizen a fail
 @TigranKhachatryan [Isn't webos TV and tizen a fail], no, WebOS was made for phones and released in 2009 with the first Palm Prē
 by your definition, UT is also "a fail"
 i was simply clarifying that it is not "the first Linux on phones that isn't Android"
 @dohbee [by your definition, UT is also "a fail"], Nah. I was just saying that Tizen is useless to me and I don't care about it. I knew UT for some time and loved it but I learned about Tizen a month or two ago
 I didn't hear about another WebOS though, I thought it was used on some LG TVs
 @j2g2rp [about Ubuntu touch of course], Ok
 But turns out there is some other WebOS too?
 LG bought the rights to WebOS and used it on their TVs
 Palm/HP used it for phones/tablets
 and now there is LuneOS continuing it from the open sourced parts
 Ah
 Okay
 There have been a lot of Linux mobile OS's that have sunk, so let's make sure that Ubuntu Touch, and the other Linux mobile operating systems that are still in development, keep running.
 Lune OS?
 I never heard about that
[13:26] <ubptgbot> twilipi was added by: twilipi
 hi
 @twilipi [hi], Hello
 Hello
 is anyone using meizu pro 5?
 A phone?
 as I recently owned and fixed this phone, and I'd like to install ut into it
 @Janith96 [A phone?], yeah
 See if it is supported
 it is
 wanna like to know if anyone has some experience when installing it from android
 It is pretty straightforward
 but it is complicated because it's a phone that had retail Ubuntu Edition
 as there's several guides, one is using the installer, and one is using cli, which isn't confident for me as I'm not a frequent linux user
 @twilipi [wanna like to know if anyone has some experience when installing it from android], UT uses different partitioning on it, from factory, so the OEM Ubuntu Edition image must be flashed first, before modern UT can be installed
 you can get more help in https://t.me/WelcomePlus with installing on that device
 Android also has a Linux kernel?
 yes android is linux
 @dohbee [UT uses different partitioning on it, from factory, so the OEM Ubuntu Edition im …], I see, I found this guide but the official website suggest instal via their installer … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2755/meizu-pro-5-flyme-os-to-ubuntu-touch-modem-update-fingerprint-function
 So,why is hard to install?
 because phones aren't PCs
 so, what u mean is the file system is different between original and ut version
 you can find a million explanations of it in the group history
 and that's why it need to use this special way to install
 @dohbee [because phones aren't PCs], But,I think their recovery mode can install os?
 Instead of bios
 @twilipi [and that's why it need to use this special way to install], yes. technically only "Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition" is supported, so you need to make your phone be that first
 @Janith96 [So,why is hard to install?], embedded system isn't PC, they aren't using BIOS/UEFI to arrange component and drivers to make compatible each other
 Yeah
 @dohbee [yes. technically only "Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition" is supported, so you need to …], I see, I'll try install it after backing all my stuff up to my PC first
 thx
 you're not going to come up with some way to install a generic build on any device so don't bother wasting your neurons on trying to think of a way :)
 Can't you flash another filesystem with fastboot or emergency download mode?
 @dohbee [you're not going to come up with some way to install a generic build on any devi …], Ok,understand
 if we could do a generic build for all devices, we'd already be doing it
 Then,which is the your topic?
 the topic of this group is Ubuntu Touch
 Any shellscript or commands do not appear here?
 @Janith96 [Any shellscript or commands do not appear here?], are you trying to install Ubuntu Touch onto a phone/tablet? do you have it installed already?
 Ok ,I got it is the Ubuntu mobile version,Now ,I know
 @dohbee [are you trying to install Ubuntu Touch onto a phone/tablet? do you have it insta …], No,I have Ubuntu on my desktop.
[13:57] <ubptgbot> lemuzbashzin was added by: lemuzbashzin
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/u4CbfMKe.webp
 Hi @lemuzbashzin, do you have a question about UBports or Ubuntu Touch
 sam told him this was a place to post frog stickers, in the Linux and gaming discussion.
 Oh. Well that's not very nice.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hi @lemuzbashzin, do you have a question about UBports or Ubuntu Touch], Actually
 Just following the development
 Because I saw there is a thing going for my device
 @dohbee [i was simply clarifying that it is not "the first Linux on phones that isn't And …], fair enough :p
 I didn't even know there was a Group here
 @lemuzbashzin I think you've heard that we don't quite like to get into the discussion of the Pepe the frog character or its various meanings outside of funny internet meme. Please refrain from using the character here. Otherwise have a nice day
 @UniversalSuperBox [@lemuzbashzin I think you've heard that we don't quite like to get into the disc …], Well, ok then
 @Janith96 [So,why is hard to install?], Because Android did only use the kernel from Linux, not everything else. And they also heavily modified the kernel, so its more like a "Linux derivative work" than original Linux. Also, they do not have opensource drivers or such, and their C library is not compatible with what GNU/Linux traditional
[14:03] <ubptgbot> ly uses
 but when it comes to installing it's mostly the closed sourced drivers making it difficult no?
 yes
 it really doesn't have much to do with bionic vs gnu libc
 that has more to do with app compatibility i guess
 yes, bionic vs gnu is just userspace
[14:17] <ubptgbot> arierrefleniad was added by: arierrefleniad
 @Fuseteam [that has more to do with app compatibility i guess], Well not only apps but all userspace tools like configuring Bluetooth. Loading firmware, using camera etc. Basically all things where Android has helpers that need to run as cmdline tools or daemons. They need their own environment and libs
 Hello
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/z6NdWfVf.webp
 yo
[14:58] <ubptgbot> EsdrasTarsis was added by: EsdrasTarsis
 @Flohack [Well not only apps but all userspace tools like configuring Bluetooth. Loading f …], Sir are Possible to unused common DT?
 Do you know a good player for local music? Standard loved to freeze
 @DarknessHiddenorg [Sir are Possible to unused common DT?], Sorry I dont understand your question
 @Flohack [Sorry I dont understand your question], Can me unused common device tree
 @Flohack [Sorry I dont understand your question], So many conflict there with vendor device tree
 Fwd from DarknessHiddenorg: [buil](https://github.com/Ubports-Land/Ubports-CI/runs/869835163#step:5:1263)build/core/base_rules.mk:183: *** device/xiaomi/msm8937-common/gps: MODULE.TARGET.FAKE.wifi_symlinks already defined by device/xiaomi/land/rootdir.  … [1262](https://github.com/Ubports-Land/Ubports-CI/runs/869835163#step:5:12
[15:36] <ubptgbot> 62)make: *** [/home/runner/work/halium/out/build-lineage_land.ninja] Error 1  … 1263build/core/ninja.mk:166: recipe for target '/home/runner/work/halium/out/build-lineage_land.ninja' failed … Help I can't find where error found
 @DarknessHiddenorg [Can me unused common device tree], Depends on the device I would say but this has nothing to do with the problems I described
 @Flohack [Depends on the device I would say but this has nothing to do with the problems I …], Ok
 @DarknessHiddenorg [build/core/base_rules.mk:183: *** device/xiaomi/msm8937-common/gps: MODULE.TARGE …], This I can't find where the error
 @DarknessHiddenorg [This I can't find where the error], Please use Porting group, here its a general group
 @Flohack [Please use Porting group, here its a general group], Ok
 Sorry
 So many ubport group make me confused
 @DarknessHiddenorg [So many ubport group make me confused], You cannot discuss all things in one group dude
 here are over 3000 people, mostly end users, not devs
 @Flohack [You cannot discuss all things in one group dude], XD
 @Flohack [here are over 3000 people, mostly end users, not devs], OK thx
 @DarknessHiddenorg [OK thx], and please remove the slurs from your display name
 Yippii!! Finally got the PinePhone :-)
 Woop Woop
 @Flohack [Well not only apps but all userspace tools like configuring Bluetooth. Loading f …], that's interesting; today i learned
 Does anyone have a backup ubuntu on a hammerhead?
 @Mr_K3y [Does anyone have a backup ubuntu on a hammerhead?], I can create a twrp backup, but why you can't just use the ubports installer?
 @vtsoft [I can create a twrp backup, but why you can't just use the ubports installer?], I would be grateful for backup. … Gives an error message.
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/zTLU8tLh.png I installed android 6.0.1 and still an error through the installer.
 Just use flashable zip
 Wipe data if it's required or smth
 Write adb push file location
 Flash
 Live happy
 :-))))
 Hi
 @popeyenica [Hi], Hello
 @TigranKhachatryan [Just use flashable zip], UT doesn't work that way
 @Mr_K3y [<reply to media>], what is the exact error? out of space? did you have android 10 in it before?
 @Mr_K3y [I would be grateful for backup. … Gives an error message.], ok, I will create a backup
 @dohbee [UT doesn't work that way], I thought Halium and stuff were flashable or is it overwriting the partition table and putting its own stuff or smth?
 @TigranKhachatryan [I thought Halium and stuff were flashable or is it overwriting the partition tab …], no, it's not an android rom. you can't just flash it with twrp like other android roms
 Hm, okay then
 @dohbee [what is the exact error? out of space? did you have android 10 in it before?], There was an android 10. … And also the official sixth.
 @vtsoft [ok, I will create a backup], Thank
 @Mr_K3y [There was an android 10. … And also the official sixth.], i think you might need to manually fix the partition after having gone to android 10, even after flashing OEM 6.0.1 image
 @dohbee [i think you might need to manually fix the partition after having gone to androi …], I do not know how to do that.
 you have to flash twrp and do it in there i think
 but i don't know specifics either
 @dohbee [and please remove the slurs from your display name], Why
 BTW that is sar not slurr and meaning sir
 because it is a slur and we respect people in Ubuntu groups, and follow the Code of Conduct, which is "be kind"
 @DarknessHiddenorg [BTW that is sar not slurr and meaning sir], "retarded" is a slur
 @dohbee [because it is a slur and we respect people in Ubuntu groups, and follow the Code …], Ah yes New rules
 I hear that before
 Ok
 no, not new rules. ubuntu community has had this for many years
 @dohbee [no, not new rules. ubuntu community has had this for many years], Ok
 @dohbee [no, not new rules. ubuntu community has had this for many years], Now how?
 @DarknessHiddenorg [Ok], also remove from the tag in your display name please as it has the same slur.
 BTW on my country slurr has meaning spirit
 @dohbee [also remove from the tag in your display name please as it has the same slur.], Okok
 Done
 thank you
 @dohbee [thank you], Ur welcome
[17:52] <ubptgbot> mohammed_ahmmed_spah was added by: mohammed_ahmmed_spah
 @Mr_K3y try files.vtsoft.dev/hammerhead/ubports.txz
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/3WqfmbaJ.png
 wget it
 Wowowowowowowowow deepin looks better than people told me
 I still can't move to other DEs
 @Mr_K3y [<reply to media>], wget it or try again now
 Hello everyone, how I can install adb on UT, if "sudo apt update" on phone show me that repositories 16-th UT are died?
 I tried install anbox and it's all stopped on adb) with ssh fastboot menu don't want work
 try sudo apt-get update
 no don't
 @AllHafRA [I tried install anbox and it's all stopped on adb) with ssh fastboot menu don't …], you did install anbox? or you are having trouble connecting to your phone with adb from your PC?
 on pc (with ubuntu) I install adb - it's ok
 but on phone - no
 hi i have installed ut with the following files and i'm unable to recieve calls on my device
 you don't need to install adb on the phone to connect to your phone with adb
 Fwd from letscrackthecode: https://github.com/Linux-On-Sdm6Series/Linux_manifest/releases
 Fwd from letscrackthecode: this is the source
 @letscrackthecode [https://github.com/Linux-On-Sdm6Series/Linux_manifest/releases], it is not an officially supported device
 if you are porting it, please ask for help with that in the porting groups
 maybe I must add some new repositories? Is it even exist?
 @AllHafRA [but on phone - no], what device are you on?
 nexus 5
 @AllHafRA [nexus 5], and you have enabled developer mode on it and can connect to it over usb with adb from your PC?
 @dohbee [you don't need to install adb on the phone to connect to your phone with adb], Ok, but when I print on my host "adb shell" it write "no such device found"
 developer mode on phone is on
 adb need cable?
 @AllHafRA [adb need cable?], yes it is over USB
 i tried do it on wifi XD
 ok, thanks)))
 shit)
 I think you're thinking of ssh
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I think you're thinking of ssh], you an do adb over wifi somehow on android, but we don't have stuff to configure that on UT
 and well it's less secure anyway
 Oh that's interesting.
 I'm very used to ssh on wifi)
 @AllHafRA [I'm very used to ssh on wifi)], i think ssh is a little bit slow
 you can use ssh instead if you copy your public key to the `~/.ssh/authorized_keys` and enable ssh
 @letscrackthecode [i think ssh is a little bit slow], but very usefull)
 ssh is way better than adb if you actually want to use the shell
 you can also do ssh-over-adb
 @dohbee [you can use ssh instead if you copy your public key to the ~/.ssh/authorized_key …], I know, I do it a long time ago)
 check the files posted in this group for the `phablet-shell` script
 (Photo, 702x513) https://irc.ubports.com/0eVg6sQf.png
 please use a pastebin like https://paste.ubuntu.com instead
 but what instructions are youfollowing?
 do UT archive repositories exist?
 yes but it seems your DNS is broken
 @AllHafRA [Do you know a good player for local music? Standard loved to freeze], Not sure if your question has been answered.  There is no other native player I know of.
 Tty clearing cache of music app.
 in general, are the main UT repositories functioning now? Terminal output is very similar to disconnected repositories?
 If nothing works, I don't know if a music player in libertine container would be an option.
 @AllHafRA [in general, are the main UT repositories functioning now? Terminal output is ver …], yes they work fine; no the terminal output is showing that your DNS is not resolving the hostname
 it's a problem at your end or your ISP
 maybe vpn can solve the problem?
 it might be possible
 maybe the problem is really on my side - it's Russia
 many "thanks" to Roskomnadzor XD
 yep
[19:34] <ubptgbot> ItsMeShouko was added by: ItsMeShouko
 and my next inattention - when connecting via adb, wifi on the phone was turned off - I use cellular 4G and apt-get update works))) it’s a disgrace
 installed anbox - wifi stopped working
 Don't use nexus but know the issue
 Google it
 Nexus right??
 yes
 Yeah Google it
 @AllHafRA [installed anbox - wifi stopped working], what version of android was on before you installed UT?
 6
 last OEM version?
 I don’t remember exactly, but like OEM 6.0.1
 ok, just making sure you probably have the latest radio firmware is all
 Some comment from https://forums.ubports.com: … "I had the same experience when I tried to install Anbox on stable but when I reflashed to devel and reinstalled Anbox, the wifi is working." … But the fact is that my UT was already in devel
 did you also flash the different boot.img?
 Test
 when installed anbox?
 yes. you do not need to flash the different boot.img any more
 how to understand the "different"? used boot like partition and hammerhead like model
 What ultimately needs to be done with this problem? Change UT channel to stable and reinstall anbox?
 @AllHafRA [how to understand the "different"? used boot like partition and hammerhead like …], There are sometimes other boot.img files with support for anbox
 @AllHafRA [What ultimately needs to be done with this problem? Change UT channel to stable …], if you flashed another `boot.img` to enable anbox, you need to flash the original from devel channel back
 the head swells ... why can't it just work?)) ...
 because computers are awful and you probably read old instructions, i don't know
 this instruction - http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
 yes that needs to be updated i guess
 you don't need to mess with boot image any more
 (Photo, 714x289) https://irc.ubports.com/ocWhU1M1.png and cdimage contains only one img for hasmmerhead:
 only do install the anbox-tools or whatever it's called
 @AllHafRA [<reply to media>], yes you do not need that
 to get wifi back you can use ubports installer to install UT again without wiping data
 and will anbox stop working after that?
 you will need to install the anbox tools and adb again
 just skip the boot image part
 ok, I tried
[20:30] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Just a simple "stupid" question: How can I select an email address from my contact list in Dekko2?
[21:23] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> ..... especially if I have to forward an email to several recipients?
 humm i don't think it is possible yet
 but i see @jonnius is working to make it possible  ;-)
[21:25] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Oh.... Ok Thank you. So maybe in a future release... 😉
 it's works with wifi. Anbox have a problems with output graphics - black window in firefox, tiktok, insta don't want login, youtube app "requires" google services and closed. Of all the applications presented, only Krita more or less decided to work, having problems with screen rotation (it is not).
 @vtsoft [wget it or try again now], I can not install backup system. The error in the photo below.
 (Photo, 1280x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/9ZREDq2a.png
 @AllHafRA [it's works with wifi. Anbox have a problems with output graphics - black window …], yeah, those apps probably won't work
 @Mr_K3y [I can not install backup system. The error in the photo below.], https://github.com/popey/buds … Это пробовал?
 @AllHafRA [https://github.com/popey/buds … Это пробовал?], Но он только создает вроде резервную копию. А мне надо развернуть ее...
 please keep to English in this group, thanks :)


[23:30] <mihaic> Hello!
[23:30] <mihaic> What is the procedure for changing an immutable page?
[23:30] <mihaic> I'm looking at the usage of ${HOME} in .pam_environment, which doesn't work with ssh logins (and maybe other logins):
[23:30] <mihaic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide_environment_variables
[23:30] <mihaic> ${HOME} has been replaced in the upstream PAM documentation with @{HOME}:
[23:30] <mihaic> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/linux-pam.git/commit/?id=73bdfac8c091492f466342feb8f2f5daa2f4c39b
[23:33] <knome> mihaic, we're currently in lockdown mode for some spam, but if you send us the new markup with the pagename you are willing to change, i can do that


[00:09] <Sonia_Fernandes_> plz. help... i have accidently clicked on invalidate email link when received the confirmation email
[00:09] <Sonia_Fernandes_> and now, i cant signup
[00:10] <Sonia_Fernandes_> somebody can help me?
[09:21] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, and happy Waffle Day, everyone! :-D