 Haha
 That tweet is blowing up lol.
[20:24] <valorie> I still haven't tried wayland, but I should on my travel lappy
[20:24] <valorie> which these days functions as a test box
[20:25] <valorie> but first I need to upgrade this box before Thomas grabs it away from me and does it
[23:15] <valorie> RikMills: this might be somewhere close to you? https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/uk/worlds-oldest-family-tree-scli-scn-intl-gbr/index.html
[23:16] <valorie> Hazleton North long cairn, in England is what the photo says
[23:19] <RikMills> valorie: about 20 miles from me :)
[23:19] <valorie> yowza
[23:19] <valorie> they say they have created the oldest family tree in the world because of the excellent DNA preservation
[23:20] <valorie> the stone age was a long time ago
[23:20] <valorie> before computers even!
[23:22] <RikMills> well, computers not made of stone ;)
[23:23] <RikMills> if you believe what some ancient monuments were for
[23:24] <valorie> silicon is rock.....
[23:24] <RikMills> true
[23:25] <RikMills> sadly doesn't seem to be much to see on the ground, otherwise I might have been tempted to jump in the car tomorrow and go look
[23:25] <valorie> right, the circles could help the ancients predict solstices etc.
[23:25] <RikMills> and post some pics
[23:25] <valorie> happy solstice everyone
[23:25] <RikMills> indeed
[23:26] <valorie> and really, the greeks had some astronomical instruments that were pretty sophisticated
[23:27] <valorie> we're not sooooo smart compared to the ancients
[23:27] <RikMills> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
[23:27] <RikMills> that is fascinating
[23:27] <valorie> but damn we have them beat on modern plumbing
[23:27] <valorie> lol
[23:27] <valorie> yeah, I tried to read up on that machine
[23:27] <valorie> and could not entirely grasp the math


[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:27] <clivejo> seems to be something weird going on with Linux6.5 and sddm recently
[15:53] <RikMills> what sort of weirdness?


[11:56] <jtaylor> can the summary of the jenkins build be displayed directly on the build page?
[11:56] <jtaylor> e.g. via the standard test result display?
[11:57] <jtaylor> right now its hard to say is something actually changed in build that was always failing
[12:04] <xnox> we have many different kinds of jobs in jenkins. Can you give an example of what you mean?
[12:13] <jtaylor> autopkgtest jobs
[12:14] <jtaylor> e.g. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-numpy/
[12:14] <jtaylor> its got five tests, one fails
[12:14] <jtaylor> what I want to know if when more than one fail
[12:14] <jtaylor> which is not immediately visible
[12:15] <jtaylor> jenkins can display test failure trend graphs for that
[12:15] <jtaylor> you just need to convert the summary.log into a junit xml
[12:15] <jtaylor> which is not hard
[12:36] <jibel> jtaylor, good idea, could you file a bug against lp:auto-package-testing please
[12:51] <jtaylor> bug 1092887
[12:53] <xnox> aha. Similarly static iso validation "test-suite" should be similarly displayed.
[17:15]  * dkessel is puzzled
[17:16] <dkessel> ah... much better without my ghost - good evening!


[22:21] <WeThePeople> anybody who knows ./config, make, make install, pls see for help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176779/
[22:21] <WeThePeople> is this correct
[22:21] <jrib> WeThePeople: you know xchat is in the repositories?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> qualia: Unfortunately I don't think that freebsd fully supports ext4. Try asking in ##freebsd.
[22:22] <lidar> WeThePeople, yes
[22:22] <rox> Troy^: try to do it manually
[22:22] <rox> Troy^: sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[22:22] <WeThePeople> jrib, only ver 2.6.8 this is 2.8.8
[22:22] <Troy^> hmm
[22:22] <jrib> !info xchat
[22:22] <WeThePeople> 2.6.8 has bugs
[22:22] <dr_willis> amuseing description.. makes me wonder who else has actually used AmIRC
[22:22] <dr_willis> !info amirc
[22:22] <WeThePeople> jrib, i use Lucid
[22:23] <jrib> WeThePeople: upgrade is free :x
[22:23] <jrib> dr_willis: not many people, judging by that
[22:24] <histo> WeThePeople: Is there a reason you need 2.8.8  over 2.6.8?
[22:24] <dr_willis> AmIRC was the first VaporWare application to be shown to the Amiga world. Its author, Oliver Wagner, has worked too many late nights on the program to count, and continues to update it to this day.   (i googled)
[22:24] <Sach> Unable to play a VCD on ubuntu 11.04 with moveplayer or VLC.  Help please?
[22:24] <lidar> WeThePeople, you can usually just grab the .deb and install it xchat is pretty simple without too many dependencies
[22:24] <WeThePeople> jrib, how there is no upgrade option in --help
[22:24] <rox> Troy^: when you get it down, then try to get it up manually
[22:24] <WeThePeople> histo, bugs in 2.6.8
[22:24] <jrib> dr_willis: heh
[22:24] <rox> Troy^: say
[22:24] <rox> Troy^: dhclient eth0
[22:25] <dr_willis> jrib:  makes me wonder how many in here actually rember the Amiga
[22:25] <jrib> WeThePeople: you can upgrade from Lucid to Precise
[22:25] <jrib> !upgrade | WeThePeople
[22:25] <dr_willis> Now i feel old.
[22:25] <histo> WeThePeople: you can upgrade to 12.04.1 right now if you'd like
[22:25] <jrib> dr_willis: I only know about amiga because old people always talk about -_-
[22:25] <k1l_> WeThePeople: dont jump on the windows : newer is better train
[22:25] <histo> dr_willis: Ido
[22:25] <rox> Troy^: when you get the box back online, you can put the interfaces file into a pastebin
[22:26] <WeThePeople> histo, i like lucid layout better
[22:26] <dr_willis> Some days i wish the ubuntu devs would go spend a week or 3 on an amiga and 'borrow' some of the neater ideas.
[22:26] <Troy^> rox: i cant
[22:26] <rox> dr_willis: hahaha, ah, the nostalgia
[22:26] <rox> Troy^: elaborate
[22:27] <rox> Troy^: what does ifconfig eth0 down say?
[22:27] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[22:27] <Troy^> i set it to auto dhcp bring up port with sudo ifconfig eth0 up it comes up but never resolves
[22:27] <Troy^> i do a sudo ifup eth0 it sais unable to access /etc/network/interfaces:1
[22:27] <SpaceBass> I've tried every variant of JRE in the 12.04 repos, but both Chromium and Firefox still complain there is no JRE plugin ? any tips ?
[22:28] <lidar> WeThePeople, life is far to short to waste time with old versions! always update
[22:28] <rox> Troy^: what does ls -l /etc/network/interfaces say?
[22:28] <daemon> hey all I am scripting the installation of a few packagers and one of them prompts me with an interactive menu, I normally select manual but how can I do this from a script
[22:28] <SpaceBass> lidar, good mantra
[22:28] <mcnellis> what happens if I cat file1 and file1 is written to while it's in the middle of running the cat command
[22:28] <Troy^> i couldn't read interfaces file. Rox hold on for the last command running up and downstairs :S
[22:29] <rox> Troy^: ok, if you are running up and down, then we should do batches
[22:29] <mcnellis> Is cat guaranteed to give me the file at the end of *some* file write i.e. that the file will end with a newline or is it possible that cat will give me the last line in the middle of its writing i.e. the last line is only half written
[22:29] <rox> Troy^: first you get it down with ifconfig eth0 down
[22:29] <Troy^> rox: 269 root root /etc/network/interfaces in green
[22:29] <Sk_> hi guys, I have problem. For while i started getting input/output error, so i did as some forum said, reboot pc o.o. Now my pc froze and after reboot it tells me to put in proper boot device i had dual boot Win8 +ubuntu 11.10.  error was on ubuntu
[22:29] <rox> Troy^: they you run dhcp manually,
[22:29] <rox> sudo dhclient eth0
[22:29] <dr_willis> Sk_:  could be the Hard drive died..
[22:30] <dr_willis> Sk_:  id boot with a live cd and see if you can access the drive.
[22:30] <rox> Troy^: i was actually interested in permissions
[22:30] <lidar> Sk_, i vote with dr_willis
[22:30] <Jordan_U> mcnellis: cat gives you no guarantees.
[22:30] <rox> Troy^: that -rwxr--r-- thing
[22:30] <Sk_> yes i'm afraid of that. but is there some way to check it?  i'm now on live in cd at this pc. but i cant see my partitions as i always could doing so :(
[22:30] <Troy^> rox well earlier when it said ifup didnt have permission i chmod 777 /etc/network/interfaces
[22:30] <dr_willis> Sk_:  check dmesg command, try to mount the drive
[22:30] <rox> Troy^: hmm, weird
[22:30] <Jordan_U> mcnellis: Are you asking out of curiosity, or do you actually have a problem where this matters?
[22:31] <mcnellis> Ok, so if I'm dealing with a file that's being constantly written to, I should use cp first and then gzip the cp'd file  instead of using cat file | gzip
[22:31] <Troy^> rox: well the interface is down now rox
[22:31] <rox> Troy^: how about runnind dhclient manually?
[22:31] <rox> good
[22:31] <Troy^> how?
[22:31] <dr_willis> mcnellis:  you should use fifo/pipes i belive....
[22:31] <rox> so you got it down with ifconfig
[22:31] <rox> Troy^: run this: sudo dhclient eth0
[22:31] <Troy^> yes ifconfig i can up and down but ifup/ifdown is a no go
[22:31] <Sk_> dr_willis: could u elaborate? i'm new in linus, should i open terminal from cd i'm on now and run it?
[22:31] <dr_willis> !mount | Sk_
[22:32] <Jordan_U> mcnellis: What is your actual use case?
[22:32] <dr_willis> Sk_:  start with looking at 'sudo fdisk -l' output, and look for error messages in 'dmesg'
[22:32] <Troy^> rox: eth0 is now up and obtained a dhcp address
[22:32] <mcnellis> I should state my problem simply and then ask for yoru guys' advice. I have a file that's being written to ~100 times a second. I want to backup the file (to AWS S3) every hour.
[22:32] <lidar> mcnellis, sounds like something for logrotate!
[22:32] <Troy^> rox: i am now ssh'd in
[22:32] <rox> Troy^: now you can copy/paste the command outputs
[22:33] <Troy^> rox: yes lol
[22:33] <rox> !pastebin
[22:33] <mcnellis> lidar, I don't want to rotate the file every hour, just every day. But I want to upload the file every hour
[22:33] <dr_willis> !info logrotate
[22:33] <daemon> hey all I am scripting the installation of a few packages and one of them prompts me with an interactive menu, I normally select 'manual' but how can I do this from a script
[22:33] <epifanio> lidar .. nothing "udev" is not a package ... still stuck on it
[22:33] <dr_willis> logrotate archives the log to a file. you then can cp when you want.
[22:33] <ace1> hi
[22:34] <mcnellis> I don't want to rotate the file every hour
[22:34] <rox> Troy^: now you can show me your static configuration and the file that was unreadable
[22:34] <dr_willis> if its constantly getting written to.. how are you expecting 'cp' to  be reliable..
[22:34] <rox> Troy^: did you by any chance edit it in windows?
[22:34] <lidar> mcnellis, logroatate is configurable ... then use a cron job once aday to upload the .gz versions logrotate has created
[22:34] <epifanio> that's the log : http://paste.debian.net/186748/
[22:34] <Troy^> rox: fizz@server:~$ ls -l /etc/network/interfaces
[22:34] <Troy^> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 269 Aug 30 19:07 /etc/network/interfaces
[22:34] <Troy^> opps
[22:34] <Sk_> mr_willis: i got this - Disk /dev/sdb: 3999 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes 82 heads, 18 sectors/track, 5292 cylinders, total 7811072 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sdb1   *        8064     7811071     3901504    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA) ubunt
[22:34] <rox> Troy^: use pastebin
[22:34] <Sach> Unable to play a VCD on ubuntu 11.04 with moveplayer or VLC.  Help please?
[22:35] <jrib> daemon: look into debconf preseeding
[22:35] <ace1> does this mean greater than.. libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.88) its a dependency issue
[22:35] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Sk_
[22:35] <Sk_> mr_willis: i dont see errors but i have no idea what it says anyway :(
[22:35] <dr_willis> Sach:  run vlc from terminal, tryu to play it.. look for error messages
[22:35] <Sk_> ah ok sorry
[22:35] <lidar> epifanio, do apt-get update and let me see it in pastebin .. and then do apt-get upgrade and let me see it in pastebin  the whole thing
[22:35] <daemon> thank you jrib
[22:35] <Sk_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176794/
[22:35] <Troy^> rox: http://pastebin.com/ZEGRLFHG
[22:36] <jrib> daemon: apparently you can also change the DEBCONF_FRONTEND to noninteractive
[22:36] <Troy^> rox: both commands are there
[22:36] <histo> Sk_: dmesg
[22:36] <daemon> jrib, yeah in this case that does not seem to work I think its a critical question that needs to be answered
[22:36] <rox> Troy^: ahh, there we go
[22:36] <histo> Troy^: paste the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file
[22:36] <Sach> dr_willis: I dont see any errors.
[22:36] <mcnellis> Well, it's a PHP script that is writing to the file, and the connections are only open for a few milliseconds so the file isn't constantly open, so I figured cp wouldn't cp a line while it's in the middle of writing
[22:37] <Troy^> rox and histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176795/
[22:37] <rox> Troy^: what ifup said does not mean, that it can not access the file, but that it does not understand it
[22:37] <dr_willis> Sach:  mount the drive then and look again
[22:37] <Troy^> omg im an idiot
[22:37] <rox> Troy^: something is wrong with the file content
[22:37] <Troy^> rox: my screen cut off the first character on my linux server
[22:37] <Troy^> so i didnt see the random character
[22:37] <Troy^> lol
[22:37] <rox> ]
[22:37] <rox> yes
[22:37] <Guest81647> hi everyone!!!, I want to convert a pack of pictures into pdf. How could i do this on ubuntu 10.04???
[22:37] <rox> that was bothering it all along
[22:38] <mcnellis> and the PHP script that writes to the file gets an exclusive lock on the file
[22:38] <rox> Troy^: so, remove the character, and everything should be in order
[22:38] <histo> Troy^: yeah line 1
[22:38] <Sk_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176797/    here what i got
[22:38] <Troy^> now i'm going to edit it for static
[22:38] <Guest81647> I search for every google but all solutions doesn't work!!!
[22:38] <rox> Troy^: when you drop the interface, drop it with ifconfig
[22:38] <Troy^> ok rox
[22:38] <Sach> dr_willis: [0x9d11eac] main input error: open of `vcd:///media/cdrom0' failed: (null)
[22:39] <asanchez1987_> Hi. I'm trying to install linux on this partition (http://imgur.com/kr7Eb) but I get this error: "could not allocate requested partitions"
[22:39] <rox> Troy^: ifconfig eth0 dhcp release
[22:39] <dr_willis> Sach:  is the disk mounted to /media/cdrom ?
[22:39] <dr_willis> Sach:  is the disk mounted to /media/cdrom0 ?
[22:39] <Sach> dr_willis: yes
[22:39] <rox> Troy^: when it is down, you can then raise it back up with ifup
[22:39] <Troy^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176802/
[22:39] <rox> Troy^: ifup and ifdown commands are wrappers for ifconfig
[22:40] <Troy^> yea i realized that now :P
[22:40] <dr_willis> Sach:  use the vlc menus to open the files in /media/cdrom0 then perhaps.
[22:40] <epifanio> lidar: http://paste.debian.net/186751/  this is the update .. note i had to force quit it because was stuck on udev, now i see that udisks was asking for udev .. maybe i sghould put it in the blacklist insead of udev
[22:40] <rox> Troy^: this should do
[22:40] <mz|`> asanchez1987_: when you install ubuntu, you have only the logical partition, or ubuntu proposes you to cut the space into many partitions ?
[22:40] <Sk_> histo_: hi could u tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176797/ <-- i will be reading it but i'm not surre i will understand and find errors :(
[22:40] <jgcampbell300> how do i enable a network card that says network disabled when i use lshw -c network
[22:40] <epifanio> lidarr .. this before to try run again  the the upgrade
[22:40] <mz|`> as you already have 4 physical +1 logical partitions, you won't be able to add more partitions to your disk
[22:41] <Troy^> ifconfig eth0 dhcp release this does not work
[22:41] <rox> Troy^: try not to scatter any loose } or ~ characters anywhere :-P
[22:41] <Troy^> doh :P
[22:41] <dr_willis> 4 'primary' partitions.. i think is the better term.
[22:41] <rox> Troy^: then just get it down
[22:41] <rox> Troy^: ifconfig eth0 down
[22:41] <Sach> dr_willis: what format should the files be in?
[22:41] <histo> Sk_: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l    I think you did before but it was cut off short.
[22:41] <dr_willis> Sach:  no idea. ive never used a VCD
[22:41] <Sk_> histo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176794/
[22:42] <asanchez1987_> mz|`: i'm trying to install centos (asking here because on #centos registered nick is required). During install process, i try to use the free space to automatically create partitions but got that error
[22:42] <mz|`> create partitionS or ONE partition ? ;)
[22:42] <dr_willis> centos is not related to ubuntu very much, you would be better off asking in #linux
[22:42] <Sk_> histo_: ah ok i see its copied wrongly, 1s i make new
[22:42] <histo> Sk_: also from dmesg around 900 line you are getting io errors on sda  which is your primary hard disk
[22:43] <rox> dr_willis: fedora and redhat are closely related to centos
[22:43] <asanchez1987_> mz|`: well if i try to create for example just the /boot partition same error appears
[22:43] <dr_willis> rox:  and that has to do with Ubuntu How? ;)
[22:43] <rox> dr_willis: while ubuntu isn't
[22:43] <mz|`> dr_willis: better terms if you want, but logical is opposed to physical if I may.
[22:43] <lidar> epifanio, why dop you have 32bit and 64bit in sources.list ?
[22:43] <Sk_> histo_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176807/ this is that fdisk -l
[22:43] <histo> Sk_: Yeah that's the one that's cut off. You're missing the output of /dev/sda on that fdisk -l
[22:43] <mz|`> dr_willis: not the first time.
[22:43] <Troy^> i bring it down rox then bring it up with sudo ifup eth0 and brings back up seems to be dhcp because the same addresss is used
[22:43] <histo> Sk_: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[22:44] <Jordan_U> asanchez1987_: This channel is only for Ubuntu support unfortunately. Try ##linux or register your nick.
[22:44] <rox> Troy^: seems to be dhcp?
[22:44] <Troy^> well it is not the ip i put in as static
[22:44] <epifanio> i didn't touched the apt-get, mabe other user did it .. can be this a problem ? i can try to coment the offending lines in the source.list
[22:44] <rox> Troy^: hmm, is your dhclient running?
[22:44] <rox> Troy^: kill dhclient
[22:44] <mz|`> asanchez1987_: you'll need to install the entire system in one partition (the one you selected in your picture) with no swap.
[22:44] <Sk_> histo_: i get nothing after that command, just jumps back to waiting for next command
[22:44] <rox> Troy^: killall dhclient
[22:45] <lidar> epifanio, if your amd64 take the 32bit ones out
[22:45] <dr_willis> Sk_:  and thats a problem...
[22:45] <dr_willis>
[22:45] <Sk_> histo_: also could u tell me what that 900 line error means? ;/
[22:45] <histo> Sk_: yeah drive is dying
[22:45] <lidar> epifanio, or viceversa
[22:45] <rox> Troy^: if dhclient is running, then it keeps overriding your static settings
[22:45] <histo> Sk_: in the dmesg  you can see all the buffer io errors on that page. corresponding to disk /dev/sda around line 900
[22:45] <asanchez1987_> mz|`: can't I create /boot, swap, / and /home ?
[22:46] <mz|`> no, you have not enough free partitions
[22:46]  * rox yawns
[22:46] <lidar> epifanio, then apt-get update again .. and then try apt-get upgrade
[22:46] <rox> Troy^: i'm going to bed, i hope you won't have any more problems
[22:46] <dr_willis> asanchez1987_:   you can partion your drive however you want.. and tell the installers what partions to mount where.... if  your hd setup allows all those partiions.
[22:46] <histo> mz|`: sure he does with extended
[22:47] <Sk_> histo_: yes i can see them but i dont know what they mean other then i have problem with drive
[22:47] <mz|`> with windows partitions present already on the disk ?
[22:47] <con-man> hey in 12.04 I noticed that all my browser flashed based videos like youtube or xhamster are playing really fast like at 16x speed... anyone know why that is? the audio/video is also out of sync. I've tried toggling hardware acceleration to no avail.
[22:47] <histo> Sk_: please stop putting a _ after my name so I can see your responses.
[22:47] <Sk_> histo: ok :)
[22:47] <dr_willis> Sk_:  means its time to look for your backups. and perhaps learn touse 'ddrescue' or 'dd_rescue' to try to save the data to another drive.
[22:47] <mz|`> I learn something really new.
[22:47] <epifanio> lidar: i can't see a 32 bit reference in my source.list .. i'm reading them right now
[22:47] <dr_willis> !tab
[22:47] <histo> Sk_: the drive is dying or already dead
[22:48] <lidar> epifanio, the i386
[22:48] <histo> dr_willis: recomend gddrescue to people so you know much better than the old dd_rescue
[22:48] <Sk_> dr_willis: i dont care for data actualy i have it backed up :).
[22:48] <histo> Sk_: Then i'd look for a new disk and wouldn't trust this one with holding anything
[22:48] <Troy^> rox: it's not giving me my static ip im requesting maybe my router but i have other comps set for static and i never had to do anything on router
[22:48] <asanchez1987_> well that's the default partiton configuration with the laptop in "initial state". I've reduced the NTFS big partition to free 100GB for linux, but I see a 200MB for windows boot, 500GB NTFS for system, 30GB for lenovo restore points and 14GB for OEM? partition? what's this OEM shit?
[22:48] <epifanio> lidar: here i found more than one .;ost file .. so im figuring out which one has i386 inside
[22:48] <josh_> Hi ! How do use the command " rename 's/\.part$//' *.part" for a series of folders and all their sub-folders ?
[22:48] <histo> !language | asanchez1987_
[22:48] <dr_willis>  Sk_  id reformat it, replace it with a new hd.. and put it in a USB encosure with a big 'warning flakey drive'  IF  you can even get it working,.,.
[22:49] <histo> Sk_: you could also try looking at it with smartmontools
[22:49] <dr_willis> asanchez1987_:  system restore partitions i imagine.
[22:49] <asanchez1987_> so if /boot requires a primary partition
[22:49] <asanchez1987_> is it impossible to install linux
[22:49] <dr_willis>  /boot/ does not need to be a primary partition
[22:49] <histo> asanchez1987_: no
[22:50] <dr_willis> and /boot/ dosent really need to be on its own partition these days
[22:50] <asanchez1987_> so I should partition the free space as extended partition
[22:50] <asanchez1987_> ?
[22:50] <asanchez1987_> or I can't
[22:50] <histo> asanchez1987_: yes and install grub to the mb4
[22:50] <josh_> asanchez1987_, It's a "System partition" from where your laptop can be restored to it's factory state, I believe.
[22:50] <histo> asanchez1987_: s/mb4/mbr
[22:51] <ivan___> ah ja!!! I used imagemagick to convert all images to pdf :P
[22:51] <mz|`> with what you told before, why can't he partition the free space to 100's of Extended partitions ? :)
[22:51] <ivan___> it was awesome!!!
[22:51]  * mz|` waiting for the answer
[22:51] <Sk_> histo: ok its on laptop/notebook, i have spare drive for it if needed. but, its asus, i gave it for waranty in march cuz of mainboard. waranty should have ended in march also. was it extended ? if u guys know such things. cuz if was i need to take it to service :/
[22:51] <histo> mz|`: extended containers take up space on the primary partition table.
[22:51] <mz|`> ma gad
[22:52] <histo> mz|`: so he can create one extended container and then create four more inside there and so on
[22:52] <mz|`> insiiiide
[22:52] <mz|`> but did you look to the screenshot ?
[22:52] <histo> mz|`: the extended container has another partition table so to say also
[22:52] <asanchez1987_> in the screenshot there are 3 primary, 1 logical and 1 free
[22:52] <josh_> Hello ! Can some one help me use the command " rename 's/\.part$//' *.part" for a directory and all directories under it (recursively) ?
[22:53] <share> warning: Qt/PyQt 4 initialization failed
[22:53] <histo> asanchez1987_: linkage?
[22:53] <mz|`> and he wants to install in the ... partition ?
[22:53] <share> what do I need to install?
[22:53] <asanchez1987_> histo: http://i.imgur.com/kr7Eb.png
[22:53] <mz|`> replace ... if you may
[22:53] <mz|`> tip : green border
[22:54] <histo> asanchez1987_: I can't tell from that what's primary and what's extended
[22:54] <mz|`> ah.
[22:54] <asanchez1987_> the 2 first and the last are primary
[22:54] <asanchez1987_> the 4th is logical
[22:54] <mz|`> ding.
[22:54] <asanchez1987_> and the 3rd is free space
[22:54] <Sk_> well thanks guys for help i gona turn it off and see if there seals.    Cand they hide seals inside so i cant see and brake them?
[22:55] <Sk_> *can
[22:55] <asanchez1987_> or at least that is what w7 says
[22:55] <histo> asanchez1987_: you could extend the logical container to take up the free space and create more parttitions in there. I recomend using gparted of the live cd and getting out of windows thouhg.
[22:55] <dr_willis> be sure you got a restore-dvd set for your windows box.. and trash the restore/recovery windows partions. :) is what i tend to do.
[22:55] <mz|`> Win (OS) limitations are 4 primary + 1 logical
[22:56] <histo> mz|`: no
[22:56] <zykotick9> mz|`: actually BIOS limitation is 4 partitions
[22:56] <histo> zykotick9: also no
[22:56] <mz|`> show me how to have 100' partition on one disk
[22:56] <mz|`> in windows 7
[22:56] <mz|`> please
[22:56] <histo> mz|`: easily with extended partitions
[22:56] <mz|`> dear lord. show me.
[22:56] <zykotick9> histo: 3 parimary and one extended - as many logical as you want
[22:56] <mz|`> ding.
[22:56] <histo> zykotick9: no
[22:57] <mz|`> instead of no, show us :)
[22:57] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[22:57] <josh_> mz|`, Maybe use GPT with Win 7 64 Bit ? Your PC should support EFI boot though...
[22:57] <histo> zykotick9: mz|` the reason for the limitation can be seen if you look at a disk and actually view the amount of space in the parition table.  You can only have 4 partitions in there.
[22:57] <zykotick9> histo: are you going to correct me then?
[22:57] <dr_willis> Extended partition
[22:57] <dr_willis> A hard disk may contain only one extended partition; the extended partition can be subdivided into multiple logical partitions. In DOS/Windows systems, each logical partition may then be assigned an additional drive letter.
[22:57] <dr_willis> bbl...
[22:58] <area97> !list
[22:58] <gordonjcp> gosh, another !list from an italian IP address
[22:58] <asanchez1987_> so what should I do is to format the free 100GB as extended partition and then create logical partitions inside?
[22:59] <asanchez1987_> or i can't do this either
[22:59] <mz|`> dr_willis: histo: please show me
[22:59] <mz|`> i wanna learn
[22:59] <mz|`> i only use zfs
[22:59] <histo> zykotick9: I'm trying to find a link that will explain paritioning better for you it's off topic and way to lengthy to explain in here.
[22:59] <zykotick9> native file systems are typically better...
[23:00] <Troy^> rox: got it
[23:00] <xckpd7> question: I have a box and I can't wget somethings... any ideas?
[23:00] <mz|`> xckpd7: without error code or network test ? no idea
[23:01] <xckpd7> for some reason certain things I can download on my own computer, I can't download / access on my Ubuntu 12.0.4 box
[23:01] <mz|`> dr_willis: histo: available when you need in PM to show me what i would learn from you
[23:01] <xckpd7> mz|`: well... it just says it can't resolve... something like that.. but yeah I partially want to know what I should do...
[23:01] <xckpd7> in regards to even going about it in a way that if I do get errors, I have a good way of showing
[23:02] <josh_> Hi ! I need help to use the command " rename 's/\.part$//' *.part" for a directory and all directories under it (recursively), how do i do this without manually entering each sub-directory ?
[23:02] <mz|`> you wget a URL with an IP ? with a CNAME?
[23:02] <mz|`> josh_: man rename ? ;)
[23:02] <xckpd7> mz|`: sudo wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mediainfo/MediaInfo_CLI_0.7.56_GNU_FromSource.tar.bz2
[23:02] <mz|`> josh_: you may need to script a bit
[23:02] <xckpd7> it's not just that file.....
[23:03] <zykotick9> xckpd7: why sudo?
[23:03] <xckpd7> mz|`: it's not just that file, but it's a good example.. I think I have problems just connecting to certain things in general (and not others)
[23:03] <mz|`> cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[23:03] <xckpd7> Zethrok: um dunno.. I think there were certain permissions on the folder it was going into
[23:03] <mz|`> you will have to test your local DNS resolver
[23:03] <[snake]> Can someone answer a security related question for me? in a private message
[23:03] <xckpd7> Zethrok: but what do I know
[23:03] <krazyk_work> I'm setting up a ubuntu live distro on a USB and am having trouble setting up persistent properly.  Anyone able to help?
[23:03] <josh_> mz|`, I read that, I got the expression to rename all files in a folder, but I need it to work on all sub folders. I guess it involves scripting and I'm new here, could you point me to some resources ?
[23:04] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: if you don't want to install from the liveusb - why not do a proper install onto the USB?
[23:04] <mz|`> "find . -xtype d" to search all directories from your current pwd
[23:04] <mz|`> then apply the rename cmd
[23:05] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: hw would I go about doing that and still having it be bootable?
[23:05] <josh_> mz|`, How do I join it together ? I didn't follow you.
[23:05] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: just install to the usb - that's it.
[23:05] <l3d> I would like to disable the guest account how would \I get this done
[23:05] <xckpd7> mz|`: result of cat/etc/resolv.conf: http://pastie.org/4619231
[23:05] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: care if i PM?
[23:06] <mz|`> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4793892/recursively-rename-files-using-find-and-sed
[23:06] <gargon> hi, I have an edubuntu installation and recently I am unable to update the system to a lot of "Hash Sum mismatch" and "Encountered a section with no package: header". Why?
[23:06] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: i'd prefer if you didn't actually.
[23:06] <krazyk_work> ok
[23:06] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: happy to answer questions here ;)
[23:06] <Troy^> question openssh only seems to run on a linux box reboot when i log in to a user. how do i get the box to auto login?
[23:06] <mz|`> xckpd7: remove localhost from your /etc/resolv/conf file
[23:07] <mz|`> autossh ?
[23:07] <mz|`> Automatically restart SSH sessions and tunnels
[23:07] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: well I've tried to install from a live usb to another USB and I'm unsure of the partitioning I should be using.  All I know is, in the end.. when I insert USB with installed distro it boots normally instead of booting from USB
[23:07] <marika> ?
[23:07] <mz|`> gargon: the repository is corrupted and needs to be repaired
[23:08] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: you need to setup your BIOS to boot from USB first, and/or use the boot selection option in your BIOS
[23:08] <josh_> mz|`, Thanks for your help. :)
[23:08] <gargon> mzI: What can I do?
[23:08] <krababbel> krazyk_work: did you test md5 sum of the iso file too?
[23:08] <mz|`> use another mirror
[23:08] <krazyk_work> krababbel: yes
[23:09] <mz|`> josh_: yw, search indexes are your friends
[23:09] <mz|`> duckduckgo or google or ..
[23:09] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: i can run from a USB.  That's how I'm running the distro now, right?
[23:09] <gargon> mzI': which is the one I should put confidence in?
[23:09] <mz|`> ubuntu official mirrors
[23:09] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: then i can't understand why you can't boot the other install then???
[23:09] <xckpd7> mz|`: I removed the localhost from the resolv.conf file, and I tried the download again. no go.
[23:09] <mz|`> the nearest is the best for the speed generally
[23:09] <histo> mz|`: you can have up to 26 drives or partitions assigned letters in windows. After that you can start mounting drives to folders with disk manager rather than assigning them a letter.
[23:10] <josh_> mz|`, Yes, thanks for the pointers... ;)
[23:10] <mz|`> histo: show me your 26 partitions
[23:10] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: nor can I.  I have menu.lst to have 2 options.. 1 with persistent and 1 w/o.  The 1 without boots fine, the 1 without does not
[23:11] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: lol menu.lst - grub1 really?
[23:11] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: the 1 WITH does not**
[23:11] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: yessir :-\ *winces*
[23:11] <mz|`> histo: then tell me how to install any linux system in a logical partition, to split into more partitions
[23:11] <mz|`> wanna learn
[23:11] <xckpd7> mz|`: it's just network unreachable errors... but what's weird, is that it will connect to a lot of stuff still.
[23:11] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: good luck - i don't remember anything about grub-legacy.
[23:11] <subz3r0> atm im configuring fail2ban. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban) why do i need to "cp jail.conf jail.local" wouldnt it fit too, if i just edit the "jail.conf"? where is the difference?
[23:11] <histo> mz|`: I don't ahve windows and also it's easy to install linux on whatever partition you want.
[23:11] <mz|`> xckpd7: the ovh resolver is not working well
[23:11] <xckpd7> mz|`: like I picked another random file off the internet, wget <file>, it immediately work.
[23:11] <histo> mz|`: as long as grub is installed on the mbr
[23:11] <mz|`> xckpd7: or you have a routing issue
[23:12] <xckpd7> mz|`: ok so I should talk to ovh and tell them their resolver is off?
[23:12] <mz|`> with all networks configurations iincluded to the message report xckpd7
[23:12] <xckpd7> or routing issue... yeah that's fine, as long as I can get a general direction to go research in.
[23:13] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: but you agree that after I install directly to a USB, that USB shold be bootable without any other alterations
[23:13] <mz|`> route -4 -ne ; route -6 -ne ; cat /etc/resolv.conf ; ip a ; iptables -L -nv ; ip6tables -L -nv ; arp -a
[23:13] <histo> mz|`: http://ask-leo.com/26_drives_is_there_a_way_around_the_26_drive_limit_in_windows.html
[23:13] <[snake]> Is it safe to store passwords of any sort in a plain text file?
[23:13] <mz|`> should do the trick xckpd7
[23:13] <histo> mz|`: there ya go give that a read if you don't believe me
[23:13] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: so long as grub is installed onto that USB - yes.
[23:13] <mz|`> it is not our subject
[23:13] <mz|`> how to install a linux system in a logical partition, and split the partition into the install to more partitions
[23:13] <Troy^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176839/ is that the proper way to modify the port i connect at by removing the "#" and changing the port number?
[23:14] <Troy^> sorry the link is of /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[23:14] <[snake]> should I make the said file only readable by root?
[23:14] <histo> mz|`: huh?
[23:14] <[snake]> is it fine the way it is?
[23:14] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: any suggestions for tools to reinstall grub to USB after the distro is installed?  I think during install it is wiping and repartitioning
[23:14] <mz|`> so re-read the guy screenshot and question
[23:14] <histo> mz|`: I told him to grow the extended parition and add more logical parittions in side of there and install there
[23:14] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: for grub-legacy, no idea.
[23:15] <histo> mz|`: you just told me you wanted to see more than 26 drive/partition in windows and there's your link.
[23:15] <mz|`> that's a solution indeed.. but you did not answer to this question even if you was sure.
[23:15] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: i dont need grub legacy.. i can use any
[23:15] <xckpd7> mz|`: thanks
[23:15] <histo> mz|`: that's exactly what I told him
[23:15] <mz|`> doh
[23:15] <zykotick9> krazyk_work: for grub2 just chroot into the USB and re-install grub...
[23:15] <piero> Hi! Once my computer doesnt control any nuclear weapon, is it reasonable to jump to the alpha 12.10 instead of installing 12.04 right now and upgrade after a month? Is there a good reason to don't do that in a production (but not critical) desktop? Something like the environment crashing a lot?
[23:16] <krazyk_work> zykotick9: ugh.. ok ok thank you
[23:16] <subz3r0> atm im configuring fail2ban. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban) why do i need to "cp jail.conf jail.local" wouldnt it fit too, if i just edit the "jail.conf"? where is the difference?
[23:16] <lidar> piero, unstable is the best way to roll with a desktop!
[23:16] <histo> piero: if you like finding bugs go right ahead but don't come here for support go to #ubuntu+1
[23:16] <subz3r0> does fail2ban directly knows that it must use the jail.local instead of jail.conf? I dont get it
[23:17] <mz|`> fail2ban = memory exhaustion
[23:17] <[snake]> I can't imagine how a file like this could be read, but I'm not sure- that's why I'm asking.
[23:17] <[snake]> that is, read remotely.
[23:17] <piero> well.. all my life I used a rolling release OS, I dont know how to deal if two upgrades a year..
[23:17] <histo> subz3r0: what is your question?
[23:17] <daemon> how can I silence apt-get install
[23:17] <piero> :s/if/with
[23:18] <subz3r0> histo: atm im configuring fail2ban. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban) why do i need to "cp jail.conf jail.local" wouldnt it fit too, if i just edit the "jail.conf"? where is the difference?
[23:18] <histo> piero: just like when you updated your rolling release distro previously
[23:18] <daemon> I dont need all the install output
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> piero, just run 12.04 it is LTS for 5 years
[23:18] <histo> subz3r0: let  me read and see
[23:18] <[snake]> daemon man apt-get maybe?
[23:18] <daemon> got it -qq
[23:18] <daemon> ta
[23:19] <xckpd7> mz|`: I think I found the issue thanks to your help. Again I'm not that technically inclined so bear with me
[23:19] <SpaceBass> I've tried every variant of JRE in the 12.04 repos, but both Chromium and Firefox still complain there is no JRE plugin ? any tips ?
[23:19] <histo> subz3r0: probably monitors all files in the /etc/fail2ban directory as configs but you can easily tell
[23:19] <mz|`> xckpd7: it was ? :)
[23:19] <piero> histo, wilee-nilee, lidar: my real doubt is: what make more trash: install a totally different "old" release and upgrade it or go ahead and install the new unstable OS and update it every day
[23:19] <stan_man_can> is there any way to change the cursor from a block to a line in ubuntu server?
[23:19] <xckpd7> mz|`: apparently I'm supposed to add to that resolv.conf file and I'm expected to resolve?
[23:19] <histo> piero: please go to #ubuntu+1
[23:20] <xckpd7> mz|`: theirs is only for their stuff... that was the explanation I got from google
[23:20] <stan_man_can> in Vim
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> piero, Do what ever floats your boat. ;)
[23:20] <mz|`> xckpd7: you add DNS resolvers to the /etc/resolv.conf file to be able to know an IP address (or else DNS record) from a CNAME
[23:20] <subz3r0> mz|`, well, so any advice whats "better"? knockd? denyhosts? or what?
[23:20] <subz3r0> histo, thx
[23:21] <xckpd7> mz|`: so what I found out... does that sound like that would be the issue / fix?
[23:21] <histo> subz3r0: it's quite possible there is an error on the community pages. I would try maiking changes and seeing if they are effective or not.
[23:22] <subz3r0> histo, thats why ive asked for that. because on any other site i dont have to copy the file over
[23:22] <histo> subz3r0: Oh I see what you are saying. Yeah you can just modify the jail.conf file if you want.
[23:23] <Troy^> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config file do i need to uncomment "#" the line with port 22 if i want to change it to Port 2277 for example?
[23:23] <subz3r0> mz|`, well... so where is the advice? just saying any program is crap in coze of memory exhaustion is like .... blah?
[23:24] <histo> Troy^: yes
[23:24] <rano> !list
[23:24] <lidar> piero, i dont think there is much diffrence .. apt just nbeeds cleaned out sometimes
[23:26] <mz|`> subz3r0: just told you what I discovered for using it in production since years
[23:26] <mz|`> the bug is still opened btw
[23:26] <mz|`> open*
[23:26] <Troy^> histo: also when i try to restart sshd server both ways by service ssh restart and /etc/init.d/ssh restart. it appears to stop and restart it but it is simply not
[23:27] <subz3r0> mz|`, so whats better to get rid of brute force attacks against a ssh server?
[23:27] <subz3r0> knockd? denyhost?
[23:27] <histo> Troy^: it is simply not what?
[23:27] <Troy^> restarting
[23:28] <histo> Troy^: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[23:28] <Troy^> because i'm still connected and cant connect on the port setting i changed
[23:28] <Troy^> i did that histo
[23:28] <histo> Troy^: is this all on your local network or over the internet?
[23:28] <subz3r0> mz|`, i just do not appreciate any unfunded statements like this. maybe some more explanation would be nice
[23:28] <Troy^> local net histo
[23:29] <mz|`> subz3r0: you can also see their bug tracker
[23:29] <mz|`> the place to be
[23:29] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[23:29] <Troy^> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[23:29] <histo> Troy^: netstat -tan   and see if it's listening on the new port.
[23:29] <histo> Troy^: they probably call it ssh in ubuntu
[23:29] <Troy^> it is still port 22
[23:29] <Troy^> and i have used ssh
[23:30] <Troy^> never changed anything
[23:30] <subz3r0> mz|`, you put that into the chan, so im asking you.
[23:30] <histo> Troy^: yeah sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[23:30] <pepperjack> subz3r0: if an ssh server why dont you just set the number of failed attempts and forget about it?  it would take eons to brute force an ssh server with a resonable limit on attempts and normal passwords
[23:30] <mz|`> subz3r0: port knocking is nice as an alternative
[23:30] <histo> Troy^: you mean your current connection doesn't close?
[23:30] <c0deMaster> when Ubuntu will use Wayland?
[23:30] <Troy^> histo: correct as i'm doing this over ssh the command ran. i also did a netstat -tan and still not listening on the new port
[23:31] <lidar> c0deMaster, what is wayland ?
[23:31] <subz3r0> pepperjack, that isnt the point. i do not allow logins with a pass as well. im just curious, like i said, i dont like unfunded statements.
[23:31] <c0deMaster> lidar: the replacement of Xorg may be I miss spelled it
[23:31] <Troy^> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176856/
[23:31] <histo> subz3r0: I run fail2ban on all my servers the default config in ubuntu bans after 3 attempts
[23:31] <mz|`> subz3r0: some explanations here to start : http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Fail2ban_talk:Community_Portal#Memory_Usage_.28160MB_for_fail2ban-server.29
[23:32] <histo> subz3r0: also i've never noticed the bug mz is talking about
[23:32] <mz|`> histo: nobody attacked you
[23:32] <mz|`> that's all
[23:32] <histo> subz3r0: sudo restart ssh
[23:32] <histo> Troy^: sudo restart ssh
[23:32] <mz|`> if you have public servers really loaded and sec-targeted you'll notice
[23:32] <histo> mz|`: I get attacked all the time
[23:33] <lidar> c0deMaster, reading the website i would assume they are not focusing on replacing xorg
[23:33] <mz|`> good for you
[23:33] <subz3r0> isnt it "sudo service ssh reload/start/stop" under 12.04?
[23:33] <histo> mz|`: I'm not effected by that bug
[23:33] <subz3r0> thanks histo
[23:33] <mz|`> ^
[23:34] <subz3r0> mz|`, i'll check that. i dont want to start any fight in here. Just wanted you to point me in the right direction. I will check that when running it. thx so far
[23:34] <Troy^> subz3r0 and histo that didn't do anything either
[23:34] <acer> hey i am doing aptitude search libftdi1 but it doesnt find it althought i see it over here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libftdi1/download
[23:35] <histo> Troy^: did you save the changes to the configuration file?
[23:35] <mz|`> no worries, i'mm relax ;)
[23:35] <Troy^> yes histo
[23:35] <histo> Troy^: can you pastebin the config file and the output of netstat -tan
[23:35] <subz3r0> Troy^, sorry, i did not read your question. just said you have to restart the server on a different way as it was before
[23:35] <smackpotato47> .
[23:36] <Troy^> argg i was editing /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[23:36] <histo> Troy^: yes you need to edit sshd_config
[23:37] <Troy^> I feel like a knob
[23:37] <lidar> well said!
[23:38] <subz3r0> Troy^, where is the problem? you cant restart the server?
[23:38] <Troy^> ok it is now listening port 2277
[23:39] <subz3r0> and yes you have to uncomment the line with the port... Port 12345
[23:39] <emes> what's a good tool for resizing a windows partition?
[23:39] <subz3r0> emes, gparted
[23:39] <lidar> emes, gparted
[23:39] <subz3r0> !gparted | emes
[23:39] <Troy^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1176864/
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> emes, is it a W7 OS?
[23:40] <subz3r0> Troy^, it is listeing now on the port. but where is the problem? :>
[23:40] <emes> wilee-nilee: yes
[23:40] <Troy^> subz3r0: still has port 22 open
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> emes, then use its partitioner, it runs live.
[23:41] <emes> oh, cool
[23:41] <subz3r0> Troy^, kill the process "sudo kill -9 pid" check the pid before with "ps x"
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> emes, gparted is okay, but the W7 is recommended for it.
[23:42] <subz3r0> Troy^, then start it again with "sudo service ssh start"
[23:43] <histo> Troy^: idd you change it to 2277 ?
[23:43] <Troy^> yea
[23:43] <histo> Troy^: it kept it open cuz you're still connected on 22
[23:43] <mz|`> 'sudo pkill -9 ssh' and don't bother with ps
[23:44] <histo> Troy^: if you exit your session it should no longer be listening
[23:44] <Troy^> it is still listening for some reason
[23:44] <Troy^> on port 22 and 2277
[23:44] <Troy^> tcp        0    224 <IP_ADDRESS>:2277        <IP_ADDRESS>:48918      ESTABLISHED
[23:44] <Troy^> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:22         <IP_ADDRESS>:35952      ESTABLISHED
[23:45] <mz|`> Troy^: netstat -tunlp
[23:45] <histo> Troy^: disconnect from 22 then connect on 2277 and restart ssh
[23:45] <Troy^> there is only 2277
[23:45] <Sach> Unable to play a VCD on ubuntu 11.04 with moveplayer or VLC.  Help please?
[23:46] <zykotick9> Sach: "mplayer vcd://1" perhaps
[23:47] <Sach> zykotick9: what must I do with that?
[23:47] <zykotick9> Sach: mplayer is "the" gnu/linux media player - i have you the command to play a VCD with.
[23:47] <zykotick9> s/have/gave/
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> Sach, have you installed the restricted extras as well?
[23:49] <Sach> wilee-nilee: no, I havent.  how do i do that?
[23:50] <Sach> zykotick9: the command didnt work.
[23:50] <subz3r0> Sach, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> Sach, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras if you are running ubuntu, is that your install?
[23:50] <zykotick9> !doesntwork
[23:50] <Sach> wilee-nilee: yes, ubuntu 11.04
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> Sach, then run this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras to start with
[23:51] <Sach> wilee-nilee: I get E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-restricted
[23:51] <zykotick9> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:52] <mz|`> histo and I are now friends again
[23:52] <mz|`> \o/
[23:52] <Sach> subz3r0: thanks, but this link seems to only refer to dvds, not vcds.
[23:52] <histo> mz|`: I was never your enemy
[23:52] <subz3r0> mz|`,  cheers :>
[23:52] <mz|`> :)
[23:52] <histo> people get missunderstood all the time
[23:52] <mz|`> FUX MY WIFE ?!
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> Sach, did you run it with the -extras as well?
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> !op | mzl
[23:54] <histo> wilee-nilee: what's wrong?
[23:54] <Sach> wilee-nilee: yes I get this:   E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-restricted [and] E: Unable to locate package extras
[23:54] <histo> Sach: are you looking for ubuntu-restricted-extras  ??
[23:54] <Jordan_U> mz|`: Please watch your language and topic in this channel.
[23:55] <Sach> histo: yes, wilee0nilee suggested that.
[23:55] <zykotick9> Sach: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:55] <histo> Sach: well it's all one word you are typing two
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> histo, 16:52
[23:55] <histo> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Sach
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> Sach, Rather strange they are in the repos under the the name did you just copy and paste the command?
[23:56] <histo> Sach: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:56] <histo> wilee-nilee: he put a space after ubuntu-restricted extras <----
[23:56] <daemon> hey all how do I create a system user on ubuntu I want it to have the userid 'dns' and the group 'dns' and nologin as its home
[23:57] <histo> wilee-nilee: that's why there were two errors one for ubuntu-restricted and one for extras
[23:57] <Sach> wilee-nilee, histo: yes, thanks. that worked! so what do i do now?
[23:57] <clervis> Having a problem with webcam video in Skype <IP_ADDRESS> on Ubuntu 12.04. I've looked/tried other options/ forum suggestions extensively. No luck yet
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> histo, Ah, Doh
[23:57] <clervis> Webcam works in Cheese, works in Skype -> Options -> Video.
[23:58] <clervis> LED comes on and it shows great in that Options dialog.
[23:58] <clervis> (HP Pavilion dv4, Ubuntu 12.04/Windows 7 dual_
[23:58] <histo> daemon: sudo useradd -g dns -d /dev/null -s /dev/null dns
[23:58] <clervis> Calls connect. I can see the other person's video.
[23:58] <clervis> They can hear my audio, but no video is sent.
[23:58] <histo> daemon: or you can set their shell to /bin/false or /bin/noshell
[23:59] <clervis> LED does NOT come on during video session.
[23:59] <daemon> thank you histo userad is what I wanted ;)
[23:59] <clervis> Pushing the "Turn Video On" button does not work either.
[23:59] <protoCall7> Hi all, I am working with cobbler to automate provisioning of servers, and my installation keep failing out on me with the error mdadm:  failed to write metadata for /dev/sda.  Does anyone have any pointers on where to begin with troubleshooting this?
[23:59] <histo> daemon: then you can sudo passwd dns   to set their passwd


[06:48] <Babloyi> what was the solution to audio crackling when discord was opened in the browser?
[07:48] <knome> not usre there was a solution?
[07:49] <Babloyi> checked the logs, seems you are right :(
 not sure what really causes it though
[07:55] <hans_> good job on the `minimal xubuntu` package thing, it now actually feels very minimalistic!  (iirc back in the 16.04 or 14.04 days, the `minimal` package included huge unnecessary packages like openoffice or libreoffice, not exactly what i'd call minimal)
[08:17] <brainwash> hans_: you mean xubuntu-core?
[08:17] <brainwash> I checked, and `apt depends xubuntu-core` does not list libreoffice
[08:18] <Babloyi> all this "praise" for libre-office, and it just hung :D
[08:19] <brainwash> hans_: ohh my bad. this particular system is not on 16.04 anymore (18.04 now).
[08:20] <hans_> brainwash, i mean this installation option from the netinst installer https://i.imgur.com/x9hSELK.png , idk if that is core or not
[08:21] <brainwash> ah I see
[08:22] <hans_> i was not impressed by the 16.04 version of that option - but am by the 18.04 version of that option.
[08:23] <brainwash> constant improvements :)
[13:16] <The_Milkman> How to properly switch from /usr/bin/lxd to /snap/bin/lxd? (Installed 3.4 via snap)


[00:11] <nomic> alsamixer
[00:11] <nomic> controls sound v well ..
[00:15] <RJ45> ObrienDave: I'm really not sure, it's just the default Volume Control settings that come with Xubuntu
[00:15] <RJ45> yeah I think it's alsamixer
[00:16] <knome> alsamixer is a terminal app
[00:16] <RJ45> oh right, so it is
[00:16] <RJ45> what's the stock one that comes with Xubuntu? Pulse-something?
[00:16] <knome> pavucontrol or pulseaudio volume control
[00:17] <RJ45> probably that, yep
[00:18] <RJ45> any ideas why the sound level indicators aren't working?, should I try downgrading the package?
[00:39] <RJ45> ..sure the application sound level indicators arn't 'essential' to hear sound, but I would like them working, they're useful for troubleshooting sound devices
[02:05] <xubuntu35w> Hello all, I was wondering if it's possible under Xubuntu to 'lock' the desktop icons in place? Mine seem to shuffle around between reboots/rearranging them. Its fairly minor but I like to arrange mine in a certain order.
[02:07] <xubuntu35w> While I'm at it, I haven't had much success with getting the keyboard backlight and function keys to work on this Asus F550ZE. Is there any resource someone could point out? I've read a few snippets relating to the /sys devices section but I suspect this laptop might not be supported yet.
[02:11] <xubuntu86w> hello
[02:12] <xubuntu86w> could anybode help me to boot xubuntu only in console mode?
[02:13] <xubuntu86w> when I try to boot xubuntu with graphical iunterface it frezees so I want to start xubuntu with console mode only
[02:13] <xubuntu35w> you could try using CTRL-ALT-F1 to see if it switches to another virtual console, or add 'single' to the kernel command line via grub? I think the recovery mode option will also boot to only text mode if that is an option
[02:14] <xubuntu86w> I prefer from the grub
[02:14] <xubuntu86w> can I modify the grub directly?
[02:15] <cfhowlett> xubuntu86w, of course.
[02:15] <xubuntu35w> you can do it as a one-off I believe, or modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg i think
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !grub | xubuntu86w
[02:19] <xubuntu86w> I read that I cant add a line editing the grub with ctrl + e
[02:23] <xubuntu35w> if you've got a 'live' CD handy of some kind you can use that to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[02:24] <xubuntu35w> athough the (e)dit option should work too
[02:35] <xubuntu86w> yes so throught the edit option what I need to modify
[02:35] <xubuntu86w> to boot on console mode?
[02:37] <xubuntu35w> at the end of the 'kernel' line, add a space then the letter 'S' or 'Single'
[02:37] <xubuntu35w> that'll boot into single user mode without X11 and you can fix things up a bit
[02:41] <xubuntu86w> thank you
[02:41] <xubuntu86w> !!!!
[02:42] <xubuntu35w> np
[09:06] <Reptilia> How do i make Xubuntu "remember" the brightness level settings i have made? On every new boot i have to reduce the brightness, since it does not remember my setup. Also, i can't find a GUI for setting brightness levels.
[10:03] <nomic> i just reduce it
[10:03] <nomic> isn't prob.
[10:03] <nomic> saw something on web that there is a way to have them set
[11:05] <sheldonh> when i press Ctrl-Alt-L to lock screen on xubuntu 15.04, the screen goes white. if i click, i see the expected, beautiful lock screen. how can i make it go straight to the lock screen, skipping the disturbing white screen?
[11:47] <sheldonh> ah. my problem with ugly white lock screen is a known issue: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#White_screen_after_upgrading_the_GTK_greeter_to_2.0.0
[13:19] <xubuntu64w> I have a 2006 MacBook Pro that has been running ubuntu for a while. I had to change the video driver to "nomodeset" in grub to get it to boot. All has been fine until the most recent update. Now it won't boot. After the update I had to switch back to the "nomodeset" setting and got video to return but now it pauses on the "ubuntu" screen with the spinning circle (which stopped animating). Any suggestions? Thanks
[16:10] <xubuntu80w> Hello is anybody here?
[16:11] <genii> xubuntu80w: Better to just ask whatever question you need help with to the channel in general, and then see if someone knows an answer
[16:12] <xubuntu80w> When i launch a program there is no notification that program is loading. Spinning circle appears only if i move my mouse over the top xfce panel
[16:12] <xubuntu80w> if it's on the desktop or a already open window spinning circle dissapears
[16:13] <xubuntu80w> it looks like that it affects only me. I looked on youtube and for others it works fine
[16:13] <xubuntu80w> it's a bit annoying because you don't know if you clicked that program or not
[16:13] <xubuntu80w> when there is no indication if it's launched
[16:43] <ibouvousaime> Hi,
[16:43] <ibouvousaime> I was wondering if there is any program for linux that can measure an angle of an image on the desktop such as MB-Ruler for windows. Anybody can help me with this?
[16:43] <ibouvousaime> Thanks
[16:53] <genii> !info screenruler
[16:53] <genii> That's probably the closest equivalent in *buntu
[17:09] <ibouvousaime> can it measure angles too ?
[17:10] <genii> No idea, never used it
[17:11] <ibouvousaime> it doest seem to have that feature but thanks guys this can still be useful for me
[18:14] <RJ45> After upgrading to 14.04, in the Sound Settings (pavucontrol), none of the sound level indicators are working (blue strips that bounce with sound), how do I fix this?
[18:26] <umarmunir94> hi guys
[18:26] <umarmunir94> I have just installed xubuntu for the first time, because manjaro crashed during update
[18:27] <umarmunir94> it isn't detecting my wifi by Fn + F2 (wifi button) and there are no drivers in the list
[18:28] <umarmunir94> should I reinstall manjaro or is there a workaround?
[18:31] <umarmunir94> skald?
[18:31] <umarmunir94> can u help me?
[18:31] <umarmunir94> feeling left alone in xubuntu community
[18:32] <GridCube> 4 minutes
[18:33] <ibouvousaime> can you provide more information about the wifi device ?
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> umarmunir94
[18:42] <GridCube> he quit
[20:11] <idrism> hello
[20:16] <ibouvousaime> hello idrism
[20:19] <idrism> just wanted to greet everyone since I am new here.
[20:20] <knome> idrism, if you have a support question, just ask; if you want to chat generally (and don't have a support question), you can join our offtopic channel #xubuntu-offtopic
[20:38] <xubuntu13w> Hi !
[20:38] <xubuntu13w> I have a question about Xubuntu
[20:38] <xubuntu13w> nd I'm a beginner...
[20:38] <xubuntu13w> so sorry if I ask stupid questions..
[20:39] <xubuntu13w> how to set p the workspaces in Xubuntu?
[20:40] <xubuntu13w> set up..
[20:50] <xubuntu13w> anybody here??
[20:51] <brainwash_> yes
[20:51] <brainwash_> try Settings Manager > Workspaces
[20:52] <xubuntu13w> i did
[20:53] <xubuntu13w> but my problem is that if I put an application in 1 workspace
[20:53] <xubuntu13w> when I will click on another workspace the application will be there
[20:53] <brainwash_> then you should describe your problem in more detail
[20:53] <xubuntu13w> what I dont want..
[20:54] <xubuntu13w> ok.. sorry...
[20:55] <xubuntu13w> so my problem is that an application which is in workspace 1 will also appear if I change the workspace
[20:55] <brainwash_> the application? any or a particular one?
[20:55] <xubuntu13w> any applications...
[20:56] <xubuntu13w> for example... if I pt thunderbird in workspace (W1)
[20:57] <xubuntu13w> and if I click on W2 thunderbird will be in W2
[20:58] <brainwash_> right click on the title bar and check if the app is set to be visible in all workspaces
[21:00] <xubuntu13w> yes it is
[21:01] <xubuntu13w> s I should uncheck it I suppose
[21:02] <brainwash_> maybe there is a setting to enable this behavior, it should be disabled by default though
[21:03] <brainwash_> check settings manager > window manager (tweaks)
[21:03] <xubuntu13w> ok
[21:04] <xubuntu13w> thanks
[21:05] <brainwash_> you're welcome :)
[21:08] <xubuntu13w> now I have another problem
[21:08] <xubuntu13w> with the workspace
[21:08] <xubuntu13w> they dont appear anymore
[21:08] <xubuntu13w> :(
[21:09] <xubuntu13w> I have the workspace icon on my panel
[21:10] <xubuntu13w> and when I click on it nothing happens
[21:10] <xubuntu13w> just a window showing me how many workspaces I have
[21:45] <xubuntu69w> Hi guys,
[21:45] <xubuntu69w> can anybody help me with encryption?
[21:45] <xubuntu69w> i will like some informations..
[21:46] <xubuntu69w> I have a laptop with 1 hard drive and 2 partitions...
[21:46] <xubuntu69w> 1 partition for windows 8.1 and the other one for Xubuntu
[21:47] <xubuntu69w> if I wanted to encrypt the hard drive... how to di it?
[21:47] <xubuntu69w> any idea?
[21:49] <nomic> there is an option to encrypt the filing system when you install ubuntu
[21:49] <nomic> filing system can be either encrypted or unencrypted
[21:49] <xubuntu69w> yes and I didnt choose it at the beginning...
[21:49] <nomic> all I know is that you can set it up on install - not sure how thereafter
[21:49] <xubuntu69w> which solution do I have now?
[21:51] <nomic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[21:51] <xubuntu69w> If I had chosen the option to encrypt the hard drive when installing xubuntu, it meant only the xubuntu partition would have been encrypted?
[21:51] <nomic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[21:51] <xubuntu69w> thanks nomic..
[21:51] <nomic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
[21:52] <nomic> you are going to have to read up about it - better if you read up on it -- understand yourself
[21:53] <nomic> there is also http://ubuntuforums.org/  this place isn't so busy .. if you create an account you can leave messages overnight - they are always attended to .. ensure you post to the correct section of the forum
[21:53] <nomic> so if you have a problem that you haven't resolved in the day .. before you retire, post a message asking.
[21:54] <xubuntu69w> ok
[21:54] <xubuntu69w> I will do it
[21:54] <xubuntu69w> I already read these links in the past
[21:55] <xubuntu69w> and it is not very clear in the case of a laptop with windows 8.1 alongside Xubuntu installed..
[21:58] <xubuntu69w> thanks a lot guys !