[16:28] <marcoceppi> When's the next gathering in DC?
[16:29] <maco> in theory every saturday afternoon/evening
[16:30] <maco> i havent been to one in a while though and will be out of town the next two saturdays, so i dont know who'll be there
[16:53] <ChinnoDog> I'll go when maco goes.
[16:53] <maco> thats gonna be a while
[16:53] <maco> i'm at pennsic the next two weekends, a wedding the one after that..
[16:54] <ChinnoDog> I don't have any confirmed reports that other people are going so I don't mind waiting.
[16:54] <maco> the mailing list is the best place to ask who's going
[16:54] <maco> as you can see only a tiny handful actually use irc
[16:54]  * maco points at nick list, which contains 4 bots
[16:54] <ChinnoDog> oh. Is that where everyone is?
[16:55] <maco> er no... 5 bots
[16:55] <ChinnoDog> 4? Who is a bot besides meting?
[16:55] <maco> chanserv, lubotu1, ubuntulo12, ubuntulo1_
[17:02] <ChinnoDog> I didn't know.  I'll be in PA.
[17:33] <marcoceppi> interesting, thanks
[17:33] <marcoceppi> I subscribe but man there are a lot of messages from the mailing list
[17:39] <ChinnoDog> ok, I subscribed and joined loco on Launchpad
[17:46] <maco> ChinnoDog: subscriptions approved
[17:46] <maco> marcoceppi: yeah thats a really new thing. i dont know what happened, but suddenly there's more than 3 emails a month
[17:46] <ChinnoDog> \o/
[17:47] <maco> (though still not what i'd call "a lot" relative to many of the other lists i'm on)
[17:48] <maco> debian-devel is like 70 messages a week
[17:48] <maco> now /that/ is a lot
[17:48] <marcoceppi> maco: Considering I don't typically do lists, it's a lot for me :)
[17:48] <maco> i was on about 75 lists last i counted
[18:00] <marcoceppi> maybe I should stop having it come in as volumes and instead to it piece by piece
[18:01] <maco> are you set to digest?
[18:01] <marcoceppi> yeah
[18:01] <maco> trouble with digest is trying to reply to them breaks things
[18:01] <maco> sooo much quotes to cut out and then the thread gets broken and rawr
[18:01] <marcoceppi> yeah, I haven't really replied because I typically read them on my phone
[18:05] <marcoceppi> Not sure how I change that
[18:17] <maco> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-dc
[18:17] <maco> the "unsubscribe or edit options"
[18:17] <maco> at the bottom
[18:18] <maco> put your email address and itll send you an edit link
[18:33] <marcoceppi> ah, thanks
[18:34] <marcoceppi> woo who


[00:09] <snarkster> trying to compile something and getting an error. error as follows: CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:98 (MESSAGE):
[00:09] <snarkster>   ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in
[00:09] <snarkster>   /home/snarkster/.kde/share/apps;/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps.
[00:09] <snarkster> what does this all mean?
[00:09] <FloodBotK1> snarkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <snarkster> my bad on the flooding
[00:13] <snarkster> is there anyone alive in here?
[00:13] <Torch> snarkster: install the kde devel packages
[00:14] <snarkster> oh man that easy huh?? thought i had already done that
[00:14] <Torch> snarkster: you didn't, or else you wouldn't get that error
[00:14] <snarkster> is that a meta package
[00:15] <Torch> snarkster: there should be one, kde-devel. maybe.
[00:15]  * Torch is on windows currently.
[00:27] <bobbes> hi all
[00:46] <apparle> jussi: you there
[01:04] <snarkster> hahahahah i go to install kde-devel so i can compile the animated background package, the whole package is like 800 kb while the kde-devel is 302 Mb
[01:05] <snarkster> probably find out that the animated background thingy will not work on 64bit. Ill really laugh then
[01:17] <evilsherpa> hey all, any luck in integrating kontact with google calendar?
[01:17] <evilsherpa> Korganiser
[01:22] <bigboss> h
[01:30] <Guest93316> wefweef
[02:13] <gigasoft> my ctrl+c and ctrl+v doesn't  work, help !
[03:28] <dustinmn> Hi
[03:58] <kalp_> plasma desktop giving me problems in my kubuntu 10.04, it comsumes too much ram (400mb) after my screen locks and i unlock it, sometimes system is hanging because of this too
[05:19] <ganeshp> Hi all, I am using Kubuntu Lucid AMD64 desktop with Nvidia Geforce 7100 / nForce 630i card. After I did fresh Lucid installation, sound in few applications has stopped. for example I am unable to hear sound when I play mp3 song from VLC. Online radio such as in.com I am unable to hear. Fortunately Amarok is playing very well. Kindly suggest.
[05:21] <robert__> exit
[05:21] <robert__> quit
[05:21] <robert__> disconnect
[05:21] <Ganymede> robert__, try "/quit"
[05:43] <org> hola que tal
[05:44] <org> wow a lot of personas por aca..
[06:30] <w83> hi
[06:30] <w83> Do u also get error #721 while sending from gmail ?
[06:34] <vadi01> guys how do i replace knetworkmanage with gnome networkmanager?
[08:09] <w83> anyone managed to start MySQL Workbench on kubuntu
[08:23] <nobarking> does anyone know how i can change the bootup screen resolution on Kubunut?
[08:23] <nobarking> does anyone know how i can change the bootup screen resolution on Kubuntu?
[08:29] <alakoo> nobarking: startup manager may have such configuration
[08:31] <nobarking> alakoo: thanks
[08:32] <nobarking> i think there's a bug
[08:32] <nobarking> too much work just to get a proper bootup screen
[08:33] <alakoo> yeah there are many flaws with adjusting them but dunno if it's a bug
[08:33] <alakoo> or at least it'd be a very known one and probably fixed as well
[08:37] <nobarking> it's this one, right here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/526892
[08:37] <nobarking> but the work around is too much
[08:37] <nobarking> can
[08:37] <nobarking> can
[08:37] <nobarking> can't* access my tty
[08:42] <ganeshp> Hi all, I am using Kubuntu Lucid AMD64 desktop with Nvidia Geforce 7100 / nForce 630i card. After I did fresh Lucid installation, sound in few applications has stopped. for example I am unable to hear sound when I play mp3 song from VLC. Online radio such as in.com I am unable to hear. Fortunately Amarok is playing very well. Kindly suggest.
[09:42] <aykay> (running livecd) - can anyone help me remove an nvidia driver via terminal?
[09:43] <aykay> I updated through hardware drivers app, but upon restart no visuals load!
[09:43] <aykay> (kubuntu IS loading though, I get the startup music.  Screen goes black at splash screen though)
[10:08] <ganeshp> i wanted to how to connect my digital still camera (cannon power shot a75) to my Kubuntu Lucid amd64 desktop.  When I connected through usb port, OS did not detect the camera. Ubuntu use to detect it automatically. Not sure why.
[10:10] <jeremias_> hola
[10:45] <huawise> I installed KUbuntu in Ubuntu 10.04 by the command "sudo apt-get install kubuntu", and after somedays, I removed it by the command "apt-get remove kubuntu", however, it seems lots of the softwares that came with kubuntu never will get out of my system. What should I do?
[10:49] <huawise> any one here?
[11:28] <kuby> hi
[11:28] <bulldog98> hi
[11:31] <kuby> sudo apt-get start engine
[11:33] <kuby> eni1 know a best site for plasma themes?
[11:34] <kuby> no1?
[11:34] <janmalte> kde-look.org ?!
[11:35] <kuby> tnx its not best too
[11:36] <kuby> eni of you have problems with kubuntu?
[11:37] <kuby> 10.04lts?
[11:38] <janmalte> no, we don't
[11:39] <kuby> dont lie
[11:39] <kuby> ubuntu have problems all time
[11:39] <janmalte> for me everything is working :P
[11:40] <kuby> you r lucky then
[11:41] <kuby> mine its blocking
[11:41] <bendersteed> Well I don't have problems either.
[11:42] <janmalte> so, ask us if you have problem, so we can help xou. just blaming about it doesn't solve anything
[11:43] <kuby> i have problems with ubuntu all time i wait opensuse 11.13 end live ubuntu
[11:44] <ngong_>  problems with installation of Samsung clp-510n: http://dpaste.com/211669/, may I get help here?
[11:44] <kuby> sorry 11.3
[11:47] <kuby> i lisent music end its stuck dont reboot i have to shut-it down that sucks
[11:48] <kuby> i have problems with ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu all sucks
[11:49] <kuby> i dont undestend why ppl love ubuntu so much mine dont work
[12:05] <slow-motion> hi
[12:24] <deconnectee> :
[12:50] <kleopatra> Moin, kann man Rhythmbox so einstellen, dass es beim hinzufügen von Liedern in die Wiedergabeliste sich nicht pausiert und in den Vordergrund drängt?
[12:51] <Mamarok> !de | kleopatra
[12:51] <Mamarok> kleopatra: also, Rythmobox is a Gnome application, please ask in #ubuntu
[12:51] <Mamarok> -o
[12:52] <kleopatra> ohh im kubuntu, sry ^^
[12:53] <Mamarok> no problem
[14:14] <DiegoSub> Nederlands ?
[14:14] <bazhang> !nl
[14:15] <DiegoSub> Thx
[14:18] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:20] <niteye> i moved my home director from /home/blah to someplaces else (and changed it in /etc/passwd), everything appears to work except sometimes when i hopen amarok or k3b it gives a message saying (cannot find /home/blah), though appart from that message it all seems to work but i find it a little annoying still
[14:48] <sam_> zii
[14:48] <sam_> hi
[14:55] <ivan_> ciao
[14:55] <dbc254> what imaging/cloning program are you guys using.
[14:55] <dbc254> ?
[14:55] <ivan_> hello
[14:55] <ivan_> ciao
[14:55] <ivan_> !list
[14:56] <ivan_> ciao
[14:56] <bazhang> !it | ivan_
[14:56] <ivan_> ciao
[14:56] <ivan_> come posso scaricare i film?
[14:57] <bazhang> ivan_, here is english
[14:57] <bazhang> ivan_, /join #ubuntu-it
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dbc254, do wish to clone your HDD ?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !pm | dbc254
[15:02] <dbc254> !pm | blueskaj  I have an external drive. I'd like to clone my drives(2) onto my external.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> dbc254, install ddrescue , here's a tutorial to clone your disk, http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/8225-clone-your-ubuntu-installation-onto-a-new-hard-disk
[16:20] <Naktibalda> Hi, I just installed kubuntu 10.04 on my new notebook.
[16:21] <Naktibalda> I downloaded and installed broadcom drivers successfully ( I think so), but I can't find any wireless network
[16:24] <James147> !wireless | Naktibalda
[16:24] <James147> !broadcom | Naktibalda
[16:25] <Naktibalda> I installed drivers in both ways
[16:25] <Naktibalda> In iwconfig I see eth1  Link Quality:5 Signal level:0 Noise level: 0
[16:25] <James147> Naktibalda: is the card being detected?
[16:26] <Naktibalda> yes, it is
[16:26] <Naktibalda> it displayed errors about firmware before, but after I installed firmware it don't display any errors
[16:27] <James147> Naktibalda: does "iwlist eth1 scan" report anything?
[16:27] <Naktibalda> Interface doesn't support scanning
[16:33] <Naktibalda> oh, if I run it as root, I get eth1  Failed to read scan data : Invalid argument
[16:35] <James147> Naktibalda: how did you install the driver?
[16:35] <Naktibalda> I used b43-fwcutter
[16:37] <Naktibalda> I installed bcmwl-kernel-source too
[16:38] <Naktibalda> I see that b43.ko and b43legacy.ko drivers are loaded
[17:00] <kr3w> is there a windows 7 style dock widget
[17:00] <kr3w> for the taskbar
[17:00] <James147> kr3w: smooth tasks
[17:01] <kr3w> where would i get it frlom?
[17:01] <James147> kr3w: I think its in the repos in lucid (plasma-widget-smooth-tasks)
[17:02] <Naktibalda> I removed bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:02] <James147> kr3w: otherwise its on kde-look.org
[17:02] <Naktibalda> and now I see wlan0 instead of eth1
[17:02] <James147> Naktibalda: can you scan on wlan0?
[17:03] <Naktibalda> it says network is down
[17:03] <James147> Naktibalda: try "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" then scan
[17:04] <Naktibalda> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[17:04] <Naktibalda> oh, it removed my firmware too
[17:14] <Naktibalda> ok, it work
[17:14] <Naktibalda> thanks for support
[17:43] <appleseed> What's this weird grinding noise I hear when I hold in Alt+Tab?
[17:50] <Pask> ciao
[17:53] <appleseed> This is just the strangest thing, I'm running Kubuntu Lucid on an SSD and 8 GB ram, but when I hold in Alt+Tab, then my pc makes a grinding noise? Does my DDR3 ram have gears in or what? Could someone else just try holding in Alt+Tab and listen for a sound?
[17:55] <James147> appleseed: normally its the hhd that makes the moist noise (unless your using a cd rom) but ssds should be silent :S
[17:56] <James147> appleseed: could it be a loose/broken fan?
[17:56] <James147> appleseed: although not sure why you only hear it when you alt+tab :S
[17:56] <appleseed> James147: I do have some storage hdd's and a cdrom connected, but when I Alt+Tab I can hear a distinct sound in my PC, very distinct, on each Alt+Tab press.
[17:57] <appleseed> I actually remember hearing such a sound on XP too on an older computer years back, but only when pressing Alt+Tab
[17:57] <James147> appleseed: does it happen when you do anything else? (copy files or large processing?)
[17:58] <appleseed> James147: No never, only Alt+Tab, It must probably be a hdd access on each Alt+Tab, like a single hit or something, but I can't see the hdd light flashing in those instances though.
[17:59] <appleseed> I think I'm going to have to make a YT video of it someday and post it under PC anomolies or something, but thx James147 anyway.
[18:00] <James147> appleseed: dont see any reason for your comp to access your hhd when you alt+tab (execpt swap, but I doupt its that)
[18:01] <appleseed> James147: yes it seems unlikely for me too, and the swap is on the SSD as well, so it's strange.
[18:26] <aykay> Is there anyway to access an install of kubuntu while on a livedisc session on that machine?
[18:27] <James147> aykay: yes
[18:27] <James147> aykay: to access the files you just need to mount the drive somewhere
[18:28] <grifo74> remastersys work in kubuntu?????????????????????????''
[18:29] <Peace-> grifo74: why not?
[18:29] <Peace-> xD
[18:29] <Peace-> i used often
[18:30] <aykay> how do I do that?
[18:30] <hennie> hi every one
[18:30] <James147> aykay: it should be listed in dolphin or the device manager... you should be able to click on it to mount it
[18:31] <avihay> I've mounted an NTFS drive from the installer to /windows , but I can't set read, write or execute permissions
[18:31] <aykay> james147, I installed some Nvidia drivers through the hardware drivers app, but now my screen goes black at the boot splash.  Kubuntu is still loading though, it still plays the startup chime
[18:31] <hennie> can any one help me to install a video mate x30 tvtuner drivers on kubuntu
[18:32] <hennie> i want to change from windows to linux, but its only my tv tuner preventing me to change
[18:33] <James147> aykay: try renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restarting x
[18:37] <aykay> james147: I've mounted the hard drive, but I'm not sure what you mean by renaming the file
[18:37] <aykay> do you mean in dolphin?
[18:38] <hennie>    are there any way to see if kubuntu automatically installed my videomate x30 drivers, in other words, are there any way i can see all my hardware like in windows
[18:38] <James147> aykay: sudo mv /path/to/mount/etc/X11/xorg.conf /path/to/mount/etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak   will do it (replacing /path/to/mount with the actual path)
[18:40] <James147> hennie: sudo lshw   will show all your hardware connected modprobe -l   will list all loaded modules
[18:41] <hennie> cool, thanx, will have a look
[18:42] <avihay> I've mounted an NTFS drive from the installer to /windows , but I can't set read, write or execute permissions for others
[18:42] <grifo74> i use ubuntu but i like kde and a go change to kubuntu, ihave some questions, getdeb and play deb work in kubuntu???
[18:42] <James147> avihay: ntfs uses a different premissions then ext... I think you need to set them when you mount the drive
[18:43] <sona_> hey now, I'm having this sound issue where I can get everything except flash in firefox to play through my usb headset. Any ideas ?
[18:44] <avihay> James147:  with ownmask=0000?
[18:44] <aykay> james147: what's wrong in this command? ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/disk/etc/X11$ sudo mv xorg.conf /media/disk/etc/x11/xorg.conf.bak
[18:44] <aykay> mv: cannot move `xorg.conf' to `/media/disk/etc/x11/xorg.conf.bak': No such file or directory
[18:44] <aykay> sona_ what version of firefox & kubuntu?
[18:45] <sona_> aykay: firefox 3.6 and kubuntu 10.04
[18:45] <avihay> aykay: sounds like you don't have a folder called /media/disk/etc/x11
[18:45] <moetunes> little x in that X11
[18:46] <sona_> it's a flash issue, flash in konqueror also dont play in my usb headset
[18:46] <sona_> but in me regular loudspeakers
[18:46] <aykay> sona_, have you checked the headphone volume in the mixer?
[18:47] <sona_> volume is on
[18:47] <apparle> guys can I make such a setting that touchpad turns off as soon as I plugin an external mouse
[18:48] <aykay> avihay, I'm on a livecd session.  I mounted the disc in dolphin, and opened the /etc/x11 folder in terminal and then used the command james gave me
[18:48] <sona_> I can hear sounds in my headphones from all applications except flash in a web browser. Flash in the web browser outputs to my regular loudspeakers
[18:50] <aykay> avihay, james147, If i have /etc/x11 open in both media and root folders, is there a way to just replace any files on the hard disk so that it'll load as default upon restart?
[18:51] <James147> aykay: it X11 not x11   but if you are in the directory you can use relitive paths (sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak)
[18:52] <okoroaforje> Hello everyone
[18:52] <aykay> i input that in terminal, but it didn't seem to do anything...
[18:53] <James147> aykay: sucess wont give any output  "ls" to see if it worked
[18:54] <aykay> alright, so just try restarting as normal now?
[18:54] <James147> aykay: yup
[18:55] <aykay> okay, thanks!  Hopefully you've saved my install :)
[18:57] <avihay> James147: thanks for the confirmations, just changed the mask to all zeros in fstab, rebooted, and finaly, after two years, shareing works!
[19:02] <hennie> where can i find a file to show me all console commands and what they mean and how to use it
[19:03] <James147> hennie: ls /bin and ls /usr/bin  to list all commands (well all the important ones)  "man <command>"  to show its manual
[19:03] <James147> hennie: there is also /sbin
[19:04] <hennie> sory for al the stupid q's, i am just fed up with microsoft and still need to learn alot on linux to get things done
[19:05] <James147> hennie: no problem :) lunix is well documented, searching google will often give alot of info about it :)
[19:05] <DarthFrog> hennie: You need a book. :-)
[19:06] <hennie> DarthFrog: i know
[19:06] <DarthFrog> hennie: Linux is extremely well documented and you will be able to do much more at the command line than you were ever able to do in Windows.
[19:06] <James147> hennie: http://mally.stanford.edu/~sr/computing/basic-unix.html  << gives you the common commands
[19:09] <DarthFrog> That's useful but outdated.
[19:10] <sweet> wat up
[19:10] <amneca> heya; I just installed kubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I'm having trouble booting it; I get a grub error 15; fdisk -l shows: http://codepad.org/kNDQkfAT
[19:10] <DarthFrog> hennie: "Linux In A Nutshell" from O'Reilly is a good one.
[19:10] <apparle> !tor
[19:10] <amneca> where sdb2 is /, and sdb3 is /boot
[19:12] <amneca> anyone got any ideas?
[19:15] <apparle> amneca: try supergrubdisk
[19:15] <James147> amneca: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Error%2015%20-%20File%20not%20found
[19:18] <amneca> thanks apparle, i'll have a look at that
[19:18] <amneca> i'm just curious why a fresh kubuntu install is setting up grub broken
[19:19] <James147> amneca: look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Error%2015%20-%20File%20not%20found
[19:19] <amneca> i'm looking James147, been on that page before i reinstalled
[19:19] <amneca> checking again
[19:19] <amneca> before i reinstalled kubuntu again*
[19:20] <James147> amneca: it shows how to deal with error 15 and why it occuers
[19:34] <draik> How do I change the font size for the login screen to my computer?
[19:34] <draik> Also, not sure if related, but the font to synaptic is also just as small
[19:35] <James147> draik: system settings > advanced > login manager  to change the font of the login manager
[19:36] <James147> draik: not sure how to change the font size of gnome apps though
[19:36] <draik> synaptic is a gnome app?
[19:36] <James147> draik: I beleave to, its default on ubuntu... kubuntu uses kpackagekit
[19:37] <draik> James147: Oh. I didn't know that. Thanks.
[19:39] <draik> James147: I can't modify the font size other than the General portion.
[19:41] <James147> draik: think its linked with the theme you are using... not entirly sure how it works... you can try disabling the theme or using a different one
[20:19] <mvk> can i map a sftp location to a mountpoint somehow?
[20:20] <Torch> mvk: yes, with sshfs
[20:22] <mvk> Torch: thank you : )
[20:41] <apparle> hello guys I want to seperate the proxy settings for quassel and everything else, can I do it
[20:54] <_ath> I know ATI's proprietary drivers are a touchy issue, but does anyone have any thoughts as to why installing fglrx && using an xorg.conf that uses it causes the machine to completely hang? I installed it using that jockey front end, 'hardware drivers'
[20:55] <apparle> _ath: what do you mean using xorg.conf? what is in it
[20:55] <_ath> both the one that that frontend creates, and using aticonfig --initial;
[20:56] <_ath> one moment, I'll paste it./
[20:57] <_ath> apparle: http://pastebin.ca/1889982
[20:59] <_ath> as it just locks up the machine, I unfortunately don't have any errors that'd be useful in identifying what's wrong..
[21:02] <_ath> one sec, i'll see if i can get anything again
[21:03] <grifo74> hello i a ubuntu user but now i install kde (kubuntu) i dont like kpackagekit exist other software to install package i search in intenet and find adept manager exist other better?????'''
[21:07] <TaskbarGone> Help! - The taskbar at the bottom of my display has disappeared.  How do I get it back?  KUbuntu 10.4  - Note: I didn't do anything special which I can think might have made it disappear.  I was just doing normal things - web browsing in some Firefox windows, when suddenly the task bar doesn't appear when I move my pointer to the bottom of the screen.  -   Thanks
[21:13] <grifo74> hello i a ubuntu user but now i install kde (kubuntu) i dont like kpackagekit exist other software to install package i search in intenet and find adept manager exist other better?????'''
[21:19] <James147> TaskbarGone: the taskbar is a widget... rightclick the panel > add widgets > look for task manager > drag it back
[21:21] <TaskbarGone> James147: Where do I drag it back _to_? thanks
[21:22] <James147> TaskbarGone: to where you want it... probally on the panel
[21:22] <James147> TaskbarGone: if you get rid of the paenl by accdent right click the desktop > add panel
[21:22] <TaskbarGone> James147: what is meant by "the panel"? thanks
[21:23] <James147> TaskbarGone: the bar at the bottom of the screen
[21:23] <James147> TaskbarGone: that normally holds the task manager, app launcher systray etc
[21:26] <TaskbarGone> James147: hm, trying to get the terminology correct:  When  said "task manager", I meant "the bar at the bottom of the screen, which holds ... ap launcher, systray, etc", so perhaps my original help should have said "my _panel_ is gone", using your terminology.  It is the popup bar across the bottom of my screen showing my running applications, &etc, that no longer pops up.  - Are we thinking the same concept here?  Thanks
[21:28] <James147> TaskbarGone: yes, the panel holds the task manager (or task bar) you should beable to right click on the desktop and click on "add panel" to get the panel back (it will be empty) you can then drag the widgets back onto it (widgets are things like the app launcher, task manager, system tray, clock, etc)
[21:29] <James147> TaskbarGone: or you can reset the desktop to the default settings by deleteing the files that start with "plasm" from ~/.kde/share/config/
[21:30] <James147> TaskbarGone: (note: you will need to logout and log backin to see the changes after deletin the files)
[21:32] <TaskbarGone> James147: 1) That doesn't work,  2) I'm also working with someone in the #kde channel on this, if you care to follow that info as I try to discern what the solution is, Could you check that there right now?  Thanks :)
[21:33] <TaskbarGone> James147: further suggestions?
[22:07] <_ath> when trying start X using the fglrx provided for 10.04 in xorg.conf, the entire machine freezes and has to be reboot by powercycling, it doesn't get far enough to write anything to the logfile, anyone got any ideas?
[22:12] <Sa[i]nT> Where do I get a list of the current repositories?
[22:18] <alexisjavier> hi
[22:34] <c3l> how do I get esound drive into wine in kubuntu?
[22:39] <newboon2age> question: i'm new to Kubuntu, and am trying to use the disk burning program to burn an ubuntu liveCD.  What are the right settings?  I tried what i thought was right, it had no errors, but is not bootable.
[22:43] <James147> newboon2age: k3b usually picks up the right settings, although I would turn down the burning speed to the lowest (less likly to screw up the burn) and make sure the "bootable" checkbox is checked... if you have a usb flash drive >1gig that you can wipe then you can create a live usb instead using "usb-creator-kde"
[22:44] <James147> newboon2age: ^^ assumes you already have an install
[22:46] <newboon2age> James147: thank you for responding.  I have a Kubuntu wubi install on one machine, while on another i have ubuntu lucid and that one after going through a distribution upgrade booted to grub2 recovery interface.  Need to boot that one w/ an ubuntu lucid disk and trying to burn it now.
[22:47] <TaskbarGone> What are the plans for putting KDE 4.5 into KUbuntu?  Will it go into KU 10.4?  10.10?
[22:48] <newboon2age> James147: oky when i first turn k3b i'm presented w/ New Data Project, New Audio CD Project, Copy Medium,  and More actions.  Which one do i want?
[22:49] <James147> TaskbarGone: 4.5 wont be included in stock 10.04 but will be availble via additional ppas... http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5-beta-2 to see instruction about getting kde 4.5 beta 2 on lucid
[22:50] <James147> newboon2age: none, you want to open the .iso...
[22:50] <James147> newboon2age: think it might be under more actions (you can normally just click the .iso in dolphin)
[22:51] <newboon2age> James147: (trying to figure out how)
[22:51] <ytoox> how do I run an .rb file?
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> ytoox: at a guess "ruby myfile.rb" in konsole
[22:52] <ytoox> ok
[22:53] <ytoox> it didnt work
[22:56] <newboon2age> James147: sorry, i'm trying to figure out dolphin, i don't see where to go to click on the empty disk.
[22:56] <ytoox> I get this error
[22:56] <ytoox> ruby customize-gui.rb
[22:56] <ytoox> customize-gui.rb:64:in `require': no such file to load -- gtk2 (LoadError)
[22:56] <ytoox> 	from customize-gui.rb:64
[22:56] <FloodBotK3> ytoox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:57] <James147> newboon2age: you click on the .iso file, not the emprt disk (note: you cant find empty disks in dolp[hin as they have no filesystem and so cannot be mounted)
[22:58] <newboon2age> James147: ah, okay let me try...
[22:59] <newboon2age> James147: okay it brings up an archive manager...
[23:00] <James147> newboon2age: rightclick > open with > k3b (or other and pick k3b)
[23:01] <newboon2age> James147: okay that brought up k3b
[23:01] <James147> newboon2age: with a burn image dialog?
[23:02] <newboon2age> i see where to turn down the speed but not where to make it bootable.
[23:02] <newboon2age> James147: yes
[23:02] <James147> newboon2age: one sec,
[23:05] <James147> newboon2age: cant see one either... but I dont have any cd drives :S I think it should automatically make it bootable though ( it always did for me)
[23:06] <newboon2age> James147: okay here goes nothing...
[23:07] <newboon2age> James147: got it at 10x
[23:07] <newboon2age> James147: w/ simulation
[23:08] <James147> Simulation wont burn anything, it will just pretend to
[23:09] <newboon2age> James147: in brasero it simulates first, then burns if okay.  i usually use that in brasero to give me some assurance it is on the right track.
[23:10] <James147> newboon2age: normally running a simulation just makes the process take alotlonger then it should :)
[23:11] <newboon2age> James147: you may be right. :)  i've just been having so many problems w/ this ... too many non-booting disks.
[23:12] <James147> newboon2age: uaully  I find a problem with the disk after its burnt, not during the burn/simulation (also consider using a usb flash drive... since I starting using them I havnt had any wasted cds and alot less hassel with the process of creating one)_
[23:13] <hmca> !menus
[23:14] <newboon2age> James147: that's a good point.  I don't think i have a handy bootable usb pendrive though.
[23:16] <newboon2age> James147: actually i think i just learned something.  it looks like that 'simulation' setting doesn't follow w/ a real burn, but just pops out the disk, giving the mistaken impression that its written when its not...
[23:17] <James147> newboon2age: I think any pendrive thats more then 1 gig will do (dont think there is anything spical that makes them bootable..) its normally what computer you want to use them with that is the bigger problem (older ones cannot boot from usb)
[23:18] <James147> newboon2age: dident think it did (but I havnt actually burnt anything in a few months) I think it might do that because there is little point in simulating before every burn
[23:19] <newboon2age> James147: wow, i'd consider it a bug because it really gives the impression its done something unless you study the feedback info.  Whats worse is it doesn't give a 'okay let's really do it now' option.
[23:21] <James147> newboon2age: not a bug... if you check something called "simulation" I would invistagate into what it actually does... but you are right a new feature to offer an option at the end of a burn would be a good idea
[23:23] <newboon2age> James147: imo a bug especially since it pops the disk(!) which really lends a false impression and since a number of other programs work w/ a simulate first, then burn pattern.
[23:23] <newboon2age> James147: so since i was unsure of the options I quit the program and restarted it as you'd instructed...
[23:24] <newboon2age> James147: now burning...
[23:24] <newboon2age> James147: hopefully anyway...
[23:25] <James147> newboon2age: a warning before starting when simulation is checked would be a good idea but other then that it should od everything a normal burn does (except burn)
[23:25] <James147> newboon2age: if you want it changed consider filing a feature request
[23:25] <newboon2age> James147: and not pop the disk
[23:25] <newboon2age> James147: yes, i agree.
[23:26] <James147> newboon2age: I think it should... its part of the simulation...
[23:28] <newboon2age> James147: the only real clue i got was that the simulation choice was mutually exclusive from the 'verify data' choice.  This confused me, but now i understand why.  Nonintuitive imo.
[23:30] <James147> newboon2age: either way there aint much point in discussing it here... yiu should file a feature request
[23:31] <newboon2age> James147: now its verifying.,,
[23:31] <TaskbarGone> How can I create an encrypted single text file, in my home directory, easily accessible via a text editor like kate?  Purpose: I'll store some account names & passwords there.  Thanks :)
[23:33] <newboon2age> James147: yes, it'd be a good request.  So that first disk is just blank probably.  Its kinda a relief to know the disk wasn't wasted.
[23:33] <James147> TaskbarGone: you can always store that info in kwallet
[23:34] <wilow04> hi friends ;)
[23:34] <wilow04> (i'm french)
[23:35] <James147> !fr | wilow04
[23:37] <newboon2age> James147: is there a default package for bootable usb pen drive creator in Kubuntu?
[23:37] <James147> newboon2age: usb-creator-kde
[23:38] <newboon2age> James147: that burn worked!  Yeah!  ty for your help.  i didn't see usb-creator-kde on the menu, is that one i start from the CL?
[23:39] <newboon2age> James147: i just looked again and found it...
[23:39] <James147> :)
[23:40] <newboon2age> James147: thanks for your help and dedication!!!


[21:11] <kim0> Alo
[21:18] <bahaa2008> kim0, welcome
[21:19] <kim0> hey :)
[21:19] <kim0> el room beta3tna deeh hadya akher 7aga
[21:19] <kim0> 3ayzeen 7ad moz3eg shwaya
[21:19] <bahaa2008> kim0, welcome to the cloud hero :)
[21:19] <kim0> lol
[21:19] <kim0> 7ad 3aref el ICT dah .. till which hour ?
[21:20] <bahaa2008> didn't you go to the UDS ?
[21:20] <kim0> yeah I did
[21:20] <bahaa2008> how it was
[21:20] <bahaa2008> i mean the one that was a few days ago
[21:20] <kim0> aywa
[21:21] <kim0> lessa rage3 embare7 :)
[21:21] <kim0> cool y3ny :) busy
[21:21] <bahaa2008> nice
[21:21] <kim0> nice guys
[21:21] <bahaa2008> seems it's really cool
[21:21] <kim0> Yeah
[21:21] <kim0> there was some invited community people
[21:21] <bahaa2008> but it's a very var away :D
[21:21] <kim0> I wish we could get some of you guys sponsored
[21:21] <kim0> Hungary ? not that far away ?!
[21:22] <bahaa2008> i'm poor @georaphical info :D
[21:22] <bahaa2008> seems it was in Europe :D
[21:22] <kim0> 3 hr flight .. there's almost nothing closer :D
[21:22] <bahaa2008> nice
[21:22] <kim0> even France is 4.5
[21:23] <kim0> el mohem
[21:23] <kim0> belbosba lel ICT
[21:23] <kim0> any idea about time ?
[21:23] <bahaa2008> i just know a few hours ago
[21:24] <bahaa2008> is there any website
[21:26] <bahaa2008> the website is made with joomla :)
[21:26] <bahaa2008> open source rocks
[21:27] <bahaa2008> http://www.cairoict.com/bigplayersplay/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101&Itemid=199
[21:27] <bahaa2008> opening hours
[21:27] <bahaa2008> 10 am – 9 pm
[21:27] <bahaa2008> don't this guys do some SEO


[19:47] <tomreyn> are there any plans for how open nvidia modules will be made available, yet?
[19:49] <tomreyn> i read https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/ - which makes me understand that starting R515 series, both open and closed drivers are available, and only one of the two can be used at a time.
[19:50] <tomreyn> i assume, so far, ubuntu will continue to use the proprietary drivers only, because the open ones for non ML/AI/compute-only use are considered alpha quality only.
[19:51] <tomreyn> is this assumption correct? are there plans beyond this, yet?
[19:51] <tomreyn> i'm mostly asking to provide somewhat future-proof updates for irc channel factoids - i don't actually use nvidia hardware anywhere.


[03:47] <pavlushka> Morning Pakistan :)
[03:48] <pavlushka> Wow, I am mesmerized by this Song :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4tT7SCmaY
[05:44] <barlas> Hmm... Am I the only one who didn't like this song?
[07:45] <lubmil> dzień
[21:26] <mustu> Why So Serious؟؟؟؟؟


[01:02] <bkerensa> heh
[01:03] <bkerensa> FYI: I might be offline mostly till tomorrow :) having epic connectivity issues
[01:03] <bkerensa> Hopefully I will have my Clear Wireless up tomorrow
[02:31] <albrigha> hey bkerensa
[03:51] <c_smith> that sucks
[03:52]  * c_smith comes back from playing a game only to go back to lurking
[04:37] <TRAVISg_> hello
[04:38] <TRAVISg_> Just finding out I cant stay logged in on my PC at home and log in from my laptop
[05:55] <bkerensa> hi albrigha
[05:55] <bkerensa> :D
[05:55] <bkerensa> internet seems sorted
[21:38] <c_smith> bkerensa, are you available to answer some questions about the Ubuntu dev thing?
[22:09] <c_smith> bkerensa, what were the commands you listed that you used to upgrade to 12.04?
[22:18] <sbeattie> c_smith: 'do-release-upgrade -d' is the preferred cli approach
[22:19] <c_smith> k
[22:22] <albrigha> sbeattie: hey! what do you do? I see security?
[22:23] <sbeattie> albrigha: yes, I'm on the ubuntu security team
[22:23] <albrigha> sbeattie: I just noticed you are in some canonical rooms, and wanted to say hi there
[22:24] <albrigha> sbeattie: awesome! it's rather cool we are so close
[22:24] <albrigha> sbeattie: how long have you been doing that?
[22:24] <albrigha> (I just started on the Ubuntu QA Team)
[22:24]  * c_smith wonders if the Kernel Panics he is getting upon booting or shortly thereafter on 12.04 are related to his hardware
[22:26] <sbeattie> albrigha: I've been with the security team for 1.5 years; before that I was on the QA team.
[22:27] <albrigha> sbeattie: ha no way, that's pretty funny! well if you have any tips/suggestions...
[22:27] <c_smith> I'm likely going to install Ubuntu 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04 before applying update.
[22:27] <c_smith> *updates
[22:30] <sbeattie> albrigha: the QA team's been revamped a fair amount since I switched.
[22:32] <Brian_H> anyone here have a good recommendation for a lenovo laptop? looking for something thats pretty portable ~14" or so
[22:34] <c_smith> no clue, my laptop runs Ubuntu and Linux in general pretty well, but it's a 15" one.
[22:34] <c_smith> and it's 3 years old.
[22:37] <TRAVISg_> hello all
[22:47] <bkerensa_c> hey c_smith
[22:47] <bkerensa_c> you around?
[22:47] <TRAVISg_> bkerensa whats up man?
[22:47] <TRAVISg_> oops just missed him
[22:48] <bkerensa> hi
[22:48] <bkerensa> I was just testing ports on Clearwire
[22:48] <bkerensa> getting ready to connect this modem to a router
[22:48] <bkerensa> I dont know why people say Clearwire is bad.... its fast enough for me
[22:48] <bkerensa> 10meg down
[22:56] <Brian_H> hows connectivity when its snowing/raining?
[22:56] <albrigha> I had clearwire for awhile as well. I never had any real problems. They had some tower issues. but when it worked it was fast.
[22:57] <Brian_H> they doing any type of special routing/nat?
[23:07] <bkerensa> Brian_H: Nope
[23:07] <bkerensa> they got open modems so you can handle NAT on your end
[23:08] <bkerensa> I just got mine fully setup and I get solid signal but notably there is a Clear tower just a few hundred yards away from me
[23:08] <bkerensa> :P
[23:08] <Brian_H> lol
[23:08] <Brian_H> hopefully you don't grow any extra limbs
[23:09] <bkerensa> lol
[23:09] <bkerensa> I think that only happens in early child development
[23:09] <bkerensa> I'm actually hoping to be moving by the spring though
[23:09] <bkerensa> :D
[23:09] <Brian_H> oh yea? where to ?
[23:09] <bkerensa> likely into Multnomah Village or closer to Downtown
[23:10]  * bkerensa is going to look at a house in Multnomah Village on Sunday
[23:10] <Brian_H> multnomah village is cool, there is a cafe there called fat city that is awesome
[23:10] <Brian_H> I eat there regularly
[23:10] <bkerensa> Its off Boones Ferry and 62nd
[23:10] <bkerensa> :D
[23:19] <TRAVISg_> peace out
[23:20] <TRAVISg_> oh wait when is our next meeting?
[23:22] <TRAVISg_> okay now I have to go peace out
[23:47] <TRAVISg> Okay today I am going to remember to sign out from this PC so I can sign on with my laptop later
[23:48] <bkerensa> ?
[23:48] <bkerensa> lol
[23:48] <TRAVISg> I keep forgetting I am idling then when I am out and about and want to get on I can't log in
[23:49] <TRAVISg> at least not with this nick
[23:49] <TRAVISg> guess it doesn't really matter much
[23:49] <bkerensa> ZNC is the way to go
[23:49] <TRAVISg> ZNC?
[23:49] <bkerensa> it lets you stay on IRC 24/7/365 and just connect when you need to
[23:49] <TRAVISg> HHMMMM
[23:49] <bkerensa> http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
[23:50] <bkerensa> its why Im always on IRC
[23:50] <bkerensa> :)
[23:50] <albrigha> oh..
[23:50] <albrigha> that's awesome
[23:50] <albrigha> thanks
[23:50] <TRAVISg> interesting
[23:50] <bkerensa> oh you guys thought I didnt have a life lol?
[23:50] <bkerensa> :D
[23:50] <bkerensa> Ubuntu Oregon has ZNC server
[23:50] <bkerensa> I can hook you guys up
[23:50] <albrigha> well I wasn't going to say it..but I was kinda thinking about it lol
[23:50] <albrigha> yes please!
[23:50] <TRAVISg> *raises hand eagerly
[23:50] <bkerensa> but I dont know and cant guarantee it will always be available since I pay for it out of my pocket :P but its been up for months
[23:51] <bkerensa> so the idea just so you know
[23:51] <bkerensa> is instead of connecting to irc
[23:51] <bkerensa> you will now connect to the ZNC
[23:51] <bkerensa> which stays connected persistantly
[23:51] <bkerensa> :D
[23:51] <albrigha> is that secure?
[23:51] <albrigha> does it connect to servers other than freenode?
[23:52] <bkerensa> ours only connects here since this is where Ubuntu has channels
[23:52] <bkerensa> albrigha: Yes ZNC doesnt log anything except for what they call buffer
[23:52] <bkerensa> so
[23:52] <TRAVISg> how do I get started?
[23:52] <bkerensa> any conversation that occurs when your disconnected u can review when u connect
[23:52] <albrigha> bkerensa: I have to connect to some other servers as well..but I'll give it a try
[23:52] <bkerensa> uhh I will make you an account
[23:52] <TRAVISg> SWEET
[23:53] <bkerensa> if you guys can pm me your preferred irc nicks
[23:53] <bkerensa> I will make u an account right now
[23:54] <albrigha> albrigha is great :)
[23:54] <bkerensa> nathwill, me and c_smith all use it already
[23:54] <bkerensa> :D
[23:54] <TRAVISg> PM in IRC or just shoot an e-mail? and what info do you need
[23:54] <bkerensa> I just wanna know what nick u wanna use for irc
[23:54] <bkerensa> I assume what your using now?
[23:54] <bkerensa> u can tell me here
[23:54] <TRAVISg> Yup
[23:56] <TRAVISg> so how do I log in?
[23:56] <TRAVISg> and can I use empathy?
[23:57] <bkerensa> ?
[23:57] <bkerensa> :)
[23:57] <bkerensa> oh look your here
[23:59] <albrigha> how do I sign in?


[07:56] <tomwardill> hmm, there's some doc test fallout from the code import changes, unsure as to correct way to fix
[08:00] <ilasc> yep, saw that
[08:01] <ilasc> and can't seem to reproduce locally
[08:02] <ilasc> ok, got it locally
[08:02] <ilasc> meaning reproduced
[08:02] <wgrant> The diff on that MP is very weird
[08:02] <ilasc> tomwardill: do you want me to look at it or are you ?
[08:02] <tomwardill> `bin/test -vvct lib/lp/code/doc/codeimport.txt` on master will do it
[08:02] <wgrant>      <require
[08:02] <wgrant> +       permission="launchpad.Edit"
[08:03] <wgrant> +       set_attributes="url"/>
[08:03] <wgrant> url has a separate setter method AFAIK which performs extra checks
[08:04] <tomwardill> wgrant: the doctests imply it does, but I can't find any reference to it actuallye xisting
[08:04] <wgrant> Oh, interesting.
[08:05] <tomwardill> there is `updateFromData`, but there's no setters for the attributes
[08:05] <wgrant> Oh, yeah, that's what I mean
[08:05] <wgrant> And what it means.
[08:05] <wgrant> Not as in a property.setter, but a general accessor.
[08:06] <wgrant> The fix here is to remove that extra security declaration and fix any test fallout from that.
[08:24] <tomwardill> poking now
[09:05] <tomwardill> wgrant, ilasc: Doing this seemed a sensible way forward: https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/386241
[09:06] <tomwardill> otherwise updateFromData grows a bunch of 'if' checks for permissions on certain attributes.
[09:23] <tomwardill> thanks ilasc :) wgrant, can you just check we've not missed something easier with the zcml? I get suspicious of xml, it's sneaky.
[09:41] <wgrant> Needs more gaml
[09:41] <wgrant> tomwardill: Looks fine I think
[09:41] <tomwardill> ta, landing
[09:42] <wgrant> Only objection is that updateFromData could use updateURL, but that's hard with how the former is currently implemented
[09:42] <wgrant> So this way around is good
[09:42] <tomwardill> yeah, it's a little too wrapped up in the notification checks to extract easily
[09:48] <tomwardill> I bet me landing the QuestionMessage changes breaks a bunch too
[09:52] <ilasc> 🙂
[09:52] <ilasc> I guess we'll find out
[10:12] <tomwardill> sigh, yep
[10:15] <wgrant> Easy ones, at least.
[10:18] <tomwardill> yeah, got a branch to fix, just waiting to see if there's any more
[10:28] <tomwardill> https://code.launchpad.net/~twom/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/386248 counting is hard
[10:28] <ilasc> lol
[13:06] <pappacena> Thanks for fixing the doctest, folks. Sorry about that! I didn't see the build bot failure.
[13:09] <tomwardill> no worries :)
[14:23] <tomwardill> hmm, this LXD transcription is going to have some 'interesting' features here...
[14:25] <SpecialK|Canon> Obligatory reminder to please signpost all the known dragons...
[14:25] <tomwardill> it's okay, I've named them all Errol
[14:26] <SpecialK|Canon> I really must read Discworld some day
[14:26] <tomwardill> start at Guard Guards.
[14:26] <tomwardill> (this is a semi-controversial opinion)
[15:43] <tomwardill> pylxd does not make things easy
[15:44] <tomwardill> to the point where actually just shelling out and using bash is a lot easier
[16:08]  * tomwardill -> EOD for bicycle club
[16:09] <SpecialK|Canon> That's disappointing :(
[16:09] <SpecialK|Canon> Er, the pylxd thing not the bicycle club!
[16:09] <SpecialK|Canon> Happy cycling!


[02:10] <ScottK> kirkland: When server people said they wanted an improved boot experience, I don't think it was the colors they were concerned with.
[02:11] <twb> haha
[02:11] <kirkland> ScottK: thank you for the constructive comment
[02:11] <twb> I would like the boot process not to hang if I make an LVM LV read-only and it has a fsck pass defined in /etc/fstab
[02:11] <ScottK> kirkland: I'm serious.  I'm sure it's lovely and all, but ^^^ is what's important.
[02:12] <twb> Just as an example
[03:07] <Saturn2888> hi all. How do I remove sit0 and sit1 adapters? I had them in there a long time ago and haven't ever been able to remove them. I was wondering if anyone else knows. They were Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 and should be pretty easy to delete for someone that knows better.
[04:33] <fxhp> I want to specify the disk image path in vmbuilder
[04:34] <fxhp> And I cannot find any docs that give examples
[07:02] <eagles0513875> any webmin users in here out of curiosity
[07:06] <greppy> eagles0513875: probably not, it's not really supported on ubuntu
[07:08] <eagles0513875> greppy: then why is it in the repo O_o
[07:10] <greppy> eagles0513875: which repo?
[07:10] <greppy> I don't find it in mine
[07:10] <jmarsden> eagles0513875: rmadison webmin shows nothing at all... i.e. it is not there.
[07:10] <eagles0513875> ya
[07:10] <eagles0513875> my apologies
[07:11] <eagles0513875> now how to uninstall it from source :(
[07:12] <_ruben> some makefiles offer a 'make uninstall' option
[07:13] <_ruben> if not, then it'll be a manual process
[07:13] <_ruben> and if your lucky, all its files reside under for instance /usr/local/webmin/
[07:19] <eagles0513875> found it
[07:19] <eagles0513875> the uinstall script was in /etc/webmin
[07:19] <eagles0513875> another question for you guys
[07:19] <eagles0513875> sudo: unable to resolve host EagleEyeT <---- i have that name in the /etc/hostname file yet its still complaining
[07:19] <eagles0513875> what have i set incorrectly in that file
[07:20] <greppy> is it in /etc/hosts?
[07:24] <eagles0513875> let me look
[07:25] <eagles0513875> greppy: http://pastebin.com/F9aPs6aV
[07:27] <greppy> then no you don't.
[07:27] <eagles0513875> wait
[07:27] <greppy> you need to add EagleEyeT to /etc/hosts
[07:27] <eagles0513875> problem fixed
[07:28] <eagles0513875> the name was something different before the bmit-internal it was called before
[07:28] <eagles0513875> and i had changed that and didnt change it in hosts
[07:33] <eagles0513875> thanks greppy :)
[08:05] <maxillusionist> hi ilea
[09:24] <tuxinator> hi all
[09:24] <tuxinator> how to achieve that snmpd does monitor interface traffic?
[09:25] <_ruben> what?
[09:25] <tuxinator> my snmpwalk output: http://pastebin.com/8dgPdH8P
[09:25] <_ruben> oh, change the public community from paranoid to ehm, the other one
[09:26] <_ruben> in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[09:26] <tuxinator> i plan to use cacti later, but first i have to ensure that it gets interface statistics from snmpd
[09:27] <tuxinator> _ruben: thanks man, looks better :D it's long time since i last worked with snmpd :D
[10:48] <GeneralK> So I have an issue where I am unable to mount an NTFS partition on a drive that uses a gpt partiton table... It's like the partition doesn't exist outside of parted or whataver tool I use to look at it in... eg. I can't mount it from /dev/sda or /dev/dm-0 Any ideas would be appreciated
[10:49] <iclebyte_work> anyone noticed any BGP issues with British Telecom?
[11:27] <DavidB> I have a File sharing problem on our Ubuntu File Server can someone please help me out?  We have 15 station running Windows Xp and Windows 7 and our File Server running Ubuntu, I configured 3 shares with full access, restarted Samba but some of the stations can not agges the server
[11:27] <DavidB> access*
[11:28] <DavidB> Can someone please help?
[11:30] <DavidB> Hello?
[11:31] <DavidB> IIs there someone willing to help?
[11:31] <Aison> maybe you should provide some more information
[11:31] <DavidB> Like?
[11:31] <Aison> eg. pastebin your samba config
[11:31] <DavidB> ok
[11:32] <Aison> that don't mean that I can help, but maybe
[11:33] <DavidB> #[11:34] <RoyK> !pastebin
[11:35] <DavidB> sorry for that
[11:35] <DavidB> my first time here
[11:35] <DavidB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/582045/
[11:36] <RoyK> np
[11:39] <Aison> can you do
[11:39] <Aison> testparm -s smb.conf > smb.conf.tested
[11:39] <Aison> and paste this?
[11:39] <DavidB> ok
[11:42] <RoyK> DavidB: can you connect to the server via IP address from the clients that can't see the server - as in \\x.x.x.x ?
[11:42] <DavidB> @RoyK I can see the shares , acces some of them but not others
[11:43] <DavidB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/582047/
[11:46] <Aison> quite strange
[11:47] <DavidB> i need to also specify that the computer that cant brows one share is in a domain
[11:47] <Aison> well, I never used this security = SHARE option
[11:49] <DavidB> I need open access to all shares
[11:49] <DavidB> its an internal server so dont need security higher than local
[11:50] <DavidB> Does it conflict maybe with the Main Domain server rules?
[11:51] <DavidB> brb
[11:52] <Aison> i've got a problem also here: some of my ubuntu servers have got a higher resolution in console than others, why? where can I change that? some framebuffer thingie?
[12:02] <DavidB> Aison I added a virtual device with a resolution setting on mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/582053/
[12:03] <DavidB> I dont have a monitor attached to the server
[12:03] <DavidB> The link is my custom xorg.conf
[12:03] <Aison> well, here i've got 6 servers with a switchbox connected to one screen
[12:03] <Aison> I don't have got X here ;)
[12:04] <DavidB> :)
[12:05] <Aison> but somehow my consoles have got different resolutions
[12:06] <DavidB> Maybe you have diferent resolutions in grub's menu.lst
[12:06] <Aison> yeah, but on ubuntu 10.10 I can't find the menu.lst
[12:06] <Aison> it's defined somewhere else
[12:07] <DavidB> http://lifealgorithms.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/customising-console-and-grub2-resolution/
[12:08] <DavidB> But be carefull it sais it might fail :)
[12:11] <DavidB> Any ideas on my problem? :P
[12:23] <zul> morning
[12:23] <DavidB> morning
[12:24] <Aison> DavidB, I guess your problem is located at the client (windows) side
[12:24] <Aison> because everything else looks ok
[12:25] <DavidB> well I have 2 similare shres on the same server but both are accesible
[12:25] <DavidB> similar*
[12:54] <DavidB> Aison I found the culprit
[12:55] <DavidB> I needed a Read Only = no on the last share that was not accesible
[13:02] <Aison> oh :)
[13:04] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:41] <orudie> At boot of 10.04 I get error: disk not found, followed by disk check, telling me that disk is not properly mounted/unmounted, then the system starts and everything seems normal. Any help for me how to fix this ?
[14:44] <patdk-wk> don't yank the power cable out?
[14:46] <mdeslaur> kirkland: FYI, qemu-kvm isn't installable right now because it FTBFS on i386...are you looking into that?
[14:46] <kirkland> mdeslaur: yes
[14:46] <mdeslaur> kirkland: ok, cool....thanks
[14:46] <kirkland> mdeslaur: jdstrand reported in ubuntu-devel
[14:47] <compdoc> orudie, type:  'smartctl -a /dev/sda'  (or whatever device your hard drive is)
[14:47] <mdeslaur> kirkland: ah, cool
[14:49] <orudie> compdoc, smartctl not recognized
[14:50] <compdoc> sorry, I thought smartmontools was included with the OS
[14:51] <orudie> compdoc, i'll install it
[14:51] <compdoc> you need to read the SMART data onthe drive. look for reallocated sectors and pending sector count
[14:51] <compdoc> see if either are greater than zero
[14:54] <patdk-wk> and don't do it over usb cable
[15:09] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: /win 2
[15:09] <RoAkSoAx> arrgh
[15:09] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: howdy!! please don't forget to review python-ethtool for the new queue when you have the time :)
[15:12] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: aha, sure, thanks
[15:28] <zul> time to do some deweeding again
[15:37] <compdoc> just say no! to deweed
[15:47] <iclebyte_work> anyone running puppet?
[15:57] <zul> RoAkSoAx: where are with 619712?
[15:58] <RoAkSoAx> zul: huh?
[15:58] <RoAkSoAx> oh bug#
[16:00] <RoAkSoAx> zul: well I was never able to reproduce the "race" as specified in the bug #619712
[16:00] <RoAkSoAx> zul: however, it is supposed to be "fixed" upstream
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> in the latest release
[16:01] <zul> RoAkSoAx: can you add the info to the bug and do the approiate thing plesase? :)
[16:03] <RoAkSoAx> zul: sure. We can also try to get the latest into natty, but that will also mean that we'd need to get ipvsadm2.6
[16:04] <zul> RoAkSoAx: wouldnt it be easier to backport the supposed fix from upstream?
[16:05] <RoAkSoAx> zul: that too, though the newest releases have better support for IPV6
[16:05] <zul> RoAkSoAx: any known regressions with it?
[16:06] <RoAkSoAx> zul: none so far. I'm gonna evauluate either to patch it, or get FFe's over this weekend
[16:06] <RoAkSoAx> and by monday I should have a clearer picture of what to do
[16:20] <zul> RoAkSoAx: cool thanks
[16:32] <bbeck> Does anyone have experience creating their own EC2 AMI of ubuntu server that is preconfigured with certain packages?  I'm trying to build an image for some software that I've written and having troubles figuring out how to get started.
[16:32] <patdk-wk> hmm, I thought that was pretty simple
[16:33] <patdk-wk> install ubuntu into ec2
[16:33] <patdk-wk> install software you want, configure it how you want
[16:33] <patdk-wk> then back it up to s3
[16:33] <patdk-wk> publish backup in s3 as ami, done
[16:36] <bbeck> well that certainly does sound easy.
[16:36] <patdk-wk> I'm sure there are a few catchs :)
[16:37] <patdk-wk> like first time run scripts to configure the ip and machine name when it's installed from the ami, that would be lost doing it that way
[16:37] <patdk-wk> but otherwise, yep
[16:38] <bbeck> why would that matter?  i'm assuming EC2 has a DHCP server to provide IPs
[16:38] <patdk-wk> I didn't think it used dhcp
[16:38] <patdk-wk> been awhile since I last used ec2 though
[16:44] <xuru> what's a good channel to ask some fiber channel/multipath questions on ubuntu?
[16:47] <patdk-wk> this one?
[16:53] <xuru> ok, I'm getting a lot of these errors:  sd 3:0:2:5: reservation conflict
[16:53] <xuru> I have 5 ESX servers hooked up to a Pillar 300
[16:54] <xuru> and I'm hooking up this backup server to it as well
[16:54] <xuru> Running ubuntu 10.04 lts
[16:54] <xuru> everything looks good running multipath -v3 and multipath -ll
[16:55] <xuru> but the paths seem to go down and then become active again
[16:55] <xuru> I'm guessing this is because the esx servers are issuing a scsi reserve?
[17:00] <patdk-wk> not sure :(
[17:00] <patdk-wk> I haven't attached any linux machines to the fiber esx stores
[17:00] <patdk-wk> only done that on windows, and haven't bothered to see if it complains
[17:02] <xuru> yeah, it's kind of weird...   I've been trying to get vmware's vixDiskLib SDK to work over SAN...  been a long road so far
[17:28] <owen1> i try to change my timezone to utc but can't find it in tzselect. any tips?
[17:31] <genii-around> owen1: Pick 11 and then put maybe just GST    ?
[17:31] <owen1> genii-around: `GST' is not a conforming Posix time zone string.
[17:33] <genii-around> GMT perhaps then. I think it takes the "GST-#" and converts it to the 3 letter codes
[17:33] <genii-around> GST-0  seems to work
[17:41] <owen1> genii-around: ok. thanks!
[17:42] <genii-around> np
[17:48] <zul> sorry about the spam
[18:38]  * RoAkSoAx off to lunch
[19:19] <Frosh> I have setup some of our Ubuntu servers using KInit, Winbind, and Samba (following a guide i read) and setup authentication against our Active Directory; this has (seemingly) worked fine for several months, but newly created AD users are unable to login (they get "access denied") - I was wondering if anyone could help me troubleshoot (turn on appropriate logging, debugging, etc..) - if this is the wrong venue, can someone point
[20:07] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping
[20:08] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: is the setvtrgb /etc/vtrgb supposed to change background colors too?
[20:08] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: yo
[20:08] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: if i understand your question correctly, yes
[20:09] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: cause the only thing I get change in both my laptops is the letters from grey to white
[20:09] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: are you on the console, ctrl-alt-f1?
[20:09] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yes
[20:10] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: the background color change is not noticeable
[20:10] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: it goes from 0,0,0 black to 1,1,1 black
[20:10] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: goto http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
[20:10] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: grab the bash script at the end of that page
[20:10] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and run it before an after you do:
[20:11] <kirkland> sudo setvtrgb vga
[20:11] <kirkland> sudo setvtrgb /etc/vtrgb
[20:11] <RoAkSoAx> let's see
[20:13] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: i though it would change the color to aubergine though :)
[20:13] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: run debconf
[20:14] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: dpkg-reconfigure <something>
[20:14] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: or press F9 in byobu
[20:15] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ahh I see it now!! cool!!
[20:15] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: thanks ;)
[20:15] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: you could, however, change your background to aubergine, though, easily :-)
[20:15] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: do this ....
[20:17] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: sudo vi /etc/vtrgb
[20:17] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and change the first number in the 3 lines to:
[20:17] <kirkland> 61
[20:17] <kirkland> 0
[20:17] <kirkland> 31
[20:17] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and then sudo start setvtrgb
[20:17]  * RoAkSoAx tries
[20:18] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: much better! I think that should be default :)
[20:18] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: the beauty is that you can now configure this easily
[20:19] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: indeed!! But personally I was expecting to see it by default :)
[20:21] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: heh.  that's up to the design team, not me :-)
[20:21] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: as long as we can change it with no hassle is all good :)
[20:24] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: though, idk if this is because of the new color changes, but byobu's color scheme has changed
[20:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: dude this new colors (and the console with aubergine is just amazing!! it's awesome that you've done this!!
[20:36] <koltroll> RoAkSoAx, url? (just joined but you sound so excited that I got interested)
[20:37] <RoAkSoAx> koltroll: http://fossplanet.com/f10/call-testing-aubergine-love-server-folks-114677/
[20:37] <koltroll> cheers
[20:38] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: thanks, man;  it's nice to hear something kind from someone every once in a while :-)
[20:38] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: b/c there are some gripey people out there!
[20:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: thanks to you!! :) (and indeed!!)
[21:25] <RoyK> http://transport.nilu.no/products/fukushima <-- seems California is getting some .jp air soon
[21:26] <Patrickdk> never did need that state anyways
[21:41] <david5345> I ran nmap on my ubuntu box. I did the 4 different scans, default, xmas tree, FIN, null and UDP Scan
[21:42] <david5345> Every time it said "1000 scanned ports are open|filtered". Except on the UDP scan, it caught ntp as being "closed".
[21:42] <david5345> Are my iptables secure enough ? or is there another test I should run ?
[21:42] <RoyK> david5345: iptables is secure enough for L3/L4
[21:43] <david5345> For the sake of this conversation, I am only talking about TCP, UDP and IP
[21:43] <RoyK> for that, iptables is secure
[21:43] <david5345> ok, I guess my question was if my rules were strong enough.
[21:43] <RoyK> pastebin them
[21:43] <RoyK> !pastebin
[21:44] <david5345> sorry ubottu, I am used to msn messenger
[21:44] <david5345> Do I need to worry about security lower than L3 ?
[21:44] <RoyK> rarely
[21:44] <RoyK> unless you're afraid of attacks on the LAN
[21:45] <RoyK> but then, arptables can do filtering as well
[21:45] <david5345> It's in a data centre, I assume they will protect against local attacks
[21:45] <RoyK> for any sysadmin, a pinch of paranoia is good, but don't add too much of it
[21:45] <david5345> I am beyond a pinch :D
[21:46] <RoyK> david5345: I'm quite sure you will be sharing the network with others in the same datacentre
[21:46] <david5345> Yes, but would any of them launch an attack against me ?
[21:47] <RoyK> david5345: you never know - one can be hacked and try to do so, but if they do, they would probably try on IP, L3, so it shouldn't be much of a problem
[21:47] <david5345> Do I need to worry about 5, 6, and 7 ? Does 7 include installing secure programs and keeping them patched ?
[21:47] <RoyK> L2 and down is pretty well secured already, unless there's a bad driver somewhere
[21:49] <RoyK> L7 is application protocols - they should be fairly secure - but "L8+" (no such thing, but still) is usually the problem - some bad code and suddenly you have an XSS or DoS or even local exploit
[21:49] <RoyK> HTTP is a good example of a L7 protocol
[21:49] <david5345> Wonderful!
[21:50] <david5345> HTTP is only as secure as the backend such as apache or PHP
[21:50] <RoyK> HTTP is secure, and so is apache, but adding PHP or CGI or something to that (all of which uses HTTP for transport) can open doors
[21:51] <guntbert> RoyK: L8  = you and me ;-)   so what might L8+ really be?
[21:52] <RoyK> I'd call php and the gang L8, you and me comes a wee bit further up :)
[21:52] <RoyK> L>7 is highly subjective :)
[21:53] <guntbert> indeed :-)
[21:53] <david5345> apache = L8
[21:53] <david5345> PHP = L9, MySQL = L10 :D
[21:53] <RoyK> apache = L5-7
[21:53] <RoyK> apache doesn't do much >L7
[21:53] <david5345> I dislike apache, I now use lighttpd. It uses up less resouces :)
[21:54] <RoyK> but it can call PHP etc, which is on a higher level
[21:54] <RoyK> lighty is nice, but Apache works too
[21:54] <RoyK> I guess that's just a matter of taste
[21:55] <david5345> I also wrote a apparmor.d profile for my PHP code, I figure that should help me keep things secure
[21:57] <david5345> Actually, I really like apparmor.d now that I understand it.
[22:12] <bezao> how do i enable iptables on my vps? i dont have eth0, ifconfig shows me "lo" "venet0" "venet0:0" i tried using venet0 and venet0:0 on iptables, but it doesnt work, it block everything! i'm trying this "iptables -N TRUSTED" and "iptables -A TRUSTED -i venet0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" but it blocks me.
[22:22] <bezao> how do i enable iptables on my vps? i dont have eth0, ifconfig shows me "lo" "venet0" "venet0:0" i tried using venet0 and venet0:0 on iptables, but it doesnt work, it block everything! i'm trying this "iptables -N TRUSTED" and "iptables -A TRUSTED -i venet0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" but it blocks me.
[22:27] <ehw> bezao: a) define "block everything!" do you get an error message? and b) this sounds like an OpenVZ container; have you asked the company you're renting it from about the error?
[22:29] <bezao> ehw i cant access it from my home. i can only access by the openvz console at my hosting website to reset iptables, then i can access i again from my home.
[22:29] <bezao> i enabled port 22 to ssh, but i cant connect, ping timeout/connection refused
[22:32] <bezao> ehw i have an ubuntu vbox at home, that i tested it, but at home i have eth0, which it works the iptables rules! but on the vps, i dont have eth0, so i search on ifconfig and tested the possibilits and got nothing! :/
[22:33] <ehw> bezao: OpenVZ uses a different name for the interfaces.  What you might want to check is if your rules ever get to TRUSTED; if you don't have a jump to TRUSTED at the end of e.g. INPUT, then it won't be reached
[22:35] <bezao> sorry i did not udnerstood.. let me pastebin the file
[22:36] <bezao> please can you check ehw http://pastebin.com/idinWvT4 ?
[22:39] <ehw> bezao: also paste bin the output of iptables-save after you're run the script?
[22:40] <bezao> 1min
[22:40] <bezao> need to change venet0:0 to venet0
[22:40] <bezao> it was saying it was wrong
[22:41] <bezao> ehw http://pastebin.com/K1Mj4Yb6
[22:42] <bezao> after i run, i cant ping anymore my vps ip, and cant connect to ssh, to i go the vps-url and tell it to disable iptables. then i can use ssh and ping again
[22:46] <bezao> any ideias ehw ?
[22:46] <ehw> have a look, bezao
[22:46] <azizLIGHTS> how do i undo the command "adduser dropbox ubuntu" ?
[22:46] <ehw> *having*
[22:49] <bezao> ok
[22:50] <ehw> bezao: if i just run the script, it works fine in a normal vm (using KVM); you can't use aliases like eth0:0 or venet0:0 for interface names, that's for sure
[22:52] <bezao> ehw i pasted you before i change, i'm now using venet0
[22:53] <ehw> bezao: it's been a while since I saw openvz in action; doesn't venet0 have an internal address?
[22:54] <bezao> ehw venet0 doesnt have an ipv4, venet0:0 has an ipv4
[22:54] <ehw> bezao: can you put venet+ as the interface name and give it a try?
[22:55] <bezao> on the iptables file?
[22:55] <bezao> sure, let me try
[22:55] <ehw> right, after -i in the iptables commands
[22:57] <bezao> it works, i have access to ssh but i cant ping, even if i comment the line about ping
[22:58] <bezao> comment or uncomment, ping doesnt work.
[22:58] <ehw> bezao: might want to check if /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_ech_ignore_all is set to 1; should be 0 if you want to be able to piing
[22:58] <bezao> i dont have that file ehw
[22:59] <bezao> i think you mean ech = echo
[22:59] <bezao> that i have
[22:59] <bezao> it's 0.
[22:59] <ehw> bezao: sorry yes, that was a type
[22:59] <ehw> typo (typing on ipad is hit-or-miss)
[23:00] <bezao> hehe, np.
[23:00] <bezao> i have 0, it should be able to ping?
[23:01] <ehw> bezao: should do normally...
[23:02] <bezao> it doesnt, hehe, np ehw iptables works;) thanks dude
[23:02] <ehw> bezao: glad at least ssh works :-D
[23:03] <bezao> it's everythin that i need :)
[23:25] <nzfish> hi chan, anyone using openpanel?
[23:52] <erichammond> Is it possible to create an upstart task that only runs after the file system has been mounted and before mysql starts?  Or would I have to modify the mysql upstart configuration to tell it to wait for my new task to complete?


 ddn whats chkconfig --list | grep network  show?
[01:49] <bazhang> chkconfig? isn't that RedHat and the like?
[01:54] <IdleOne> The program 'chkconfig' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[01:54] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[01:54] <bazhang> nulldev is getting way past the limits
 clock so why did you not learn RTFM?
[01:57] <bazhang> just checked the backscroll, lovely
 id have to close the terminal to get back to the cli
[02:31] <bazhang> uh...
[06:34] <Tm_T> !schedule-#ubuntu+1
[11:44] <DarkSim> Hello
[11:44] <DarkSim> Now I am ready to try and appeal my ban, sorry for yesterday
[11:48] <DarkSim> I got banned about 1 week ago when I was getting helped in the #ubuntu channel, I got stuck on a step where a command line ended with "-E" but the tutorial I was being helped with used a diffrent kind of "-" so the terminal kept telling me it was a invalid command, when me and the helper found that out I got a little mad at that, that's why I got banned
[11:49] <ikonia> DarkSim: can you give me one moment please
[11:49] <ikonia> I'll be with you ASAP as no-one else is around
[11:49] <DarkSim> Alright, thank you very much
[11:52] <ikonia> ok, I've just checked the logs and remember you getting banned
[11:52] <ikonia> you had a bit of a rant on about cannon
[11:52] <ikonia> and a few other things
[11:53] <DarkSim> Oh yeah
[11:53] <DarkSim> Sorry about that
[11:53] <ikonia> that's ok, I can understand frustration
[11:53] <ikonia> I'm happy to remove the ban on that part
[11:53] <ikonia> the only part I'd like you to explain is why you tried to get around the ban ?
[11:54] <ikonia> rather than actually talk to someone to resolve the ban
[11:54] <DarkSim> What do you mean?
[11:54] <LjL> except he didn't, he was merely kicked and then a ban on his hostname added which did nothing since he was from webchat
[11:54] <DarkSim> I remember that when I was banned I could just not type in the regular chat, but I was PM'ing the guy who helped me
[11:55] <DarkSim> so he could hear me in private
[11:55] <DarkSim> I didn't really understand it was a permanent ban, but then he told me to appeal the ban on here
[11:56] <ikonia> sorry was just looking away for a moment
[11:56] <ikonia> LjL: I thought that would stop the +e and add +b to the webchat he was using ?
[11:57] <ikonia> if someone is kicked from #ubuntu on website it removes the excepmpt and adds a ban
[11:57] <ikonia> DarkSim: give me a moment and I'll remove the ban
[11:57] <LjL> ikonia: yes, it should do that. but it doesn't look like it did this time. and anyway it stops the +e, but can't prevent the person from joining
[11:57] <ikonia> DarkSim: just please try to keep the rants under control, people are there to help you and don't want to hear about you calling software names, saying how much you want to punch someone etc
[11:58] <DarkSim> I understand
[11:58] <ikonia> LjL: odd little glitch there
[11:58] <DarkSim> I will keep the punching to myself next time :P
[11:58] <ikonia> DarkSim: I'll be with you in 2 minutes as I'm just juggling a few things
[11:58] <DarkSim> No worries
[11:58] <DarkSim> I'm not in a hurry, got no problems with Ubuntu right now anyhow
[11:59] <ikonia> DarkSim: can you try to join #ubuntu for me now please ?
[12:00] <DarkSim> Can I do that in webchat without having to reload the whole page?
[12:00] <LjL> DarkSim: sure, /join #ubuntu
[12:00] <ikonia> ok, that looks good
[12:00] <ikonia> DarkSim: you're all sorted
[12:01] <DarkSim> Thank you so much
[12:01] <ikonia> no problem
[15:18] <bazhang> gogli is kav
[15:18] <ikonia> yes
[15:22] <bazhang> augh
[15:29] <bazhang> wh should warn the #supybot people
[15:30] <bazhang> we even
[15:30] <ikonia> let them deal with him, not #ubuntu's problem
 xubuntu 12.04 - all fonts for programs are to goddamn bright, how can I fix this? is it theming, or some shenanigans
[16:40] <bazhang> does that contain a curse word or no
[16:40] <maco> enough of yes that some people say GD instead
[16:40] <Pici> it depends
[16:40] <Pici> I don't find it offensive personally.
[16:40] <maco> but i think its a cable-TV-approved word
[16:41] <bazhang> k3y seems to be set that its not
[16:41] <maco> though then again, in Firefly they say gorram instead of it, so....maybe it isnt allowed on tv
[16:41] <bazhang> perhaps it's the usage then
[16:41] <maco> certainly if they were using the word "you" as the direct object, thatd be not allowed
[16:42] <bazhang> he's been very demanding of an answer so perhaps that colored my interpretation
[16:46] <maco> the very child friendly version of "too goddamn bright" would be "too goshdarn bright"
[17:09] <genii-around> When I hear things like "goshdarn" I'm reminded of Mayberry
[17:09] <Pici> :(
[17:09] <genii-around> Pici: It's not a bad thing!
[17:10] <Pici> genii-around: Andy Griffith just passed away.
[17:11] <genii-around> Ah, right.  But you found him already :]
[23:14] <MissVera> flooding using Ubottu. Annoying.
[23:14] <Myrtti> it is quite difficult not to
[23:15] <MissVera> Apparently. Have fun with that :]


[00:14] <rww> I still think we need a "don't drink and IRC" factoid ;P
[00:15] <maco> !iui
[00:15] <maco> Ircing Under the Influence?
[00:17] <IdleOne> you mean RIC'ing under the fluid
[00:17] <IdleOne> ociffer
[00:44] <ikonia> another server dies
[00:44]  * rww considers a freenode network problems drinking game
[00:44] <rww> For anyone else who was wondering, it looks like topylì managed to ban that martiini person from a few hours ago, and considering the BT history, that looks to be a good thing.
[00:46] <Flannel> rww: Every time a server dies, an angel gets its wings!
[00:46] <IdleOne> We should be in heaven soon :)
[06:58] <bilalakhtar> Could someone please do this comment:
[06:59] <bilalakhtar> @comment 35328 Talking about girlfriends on the ubuntu channel and going very much offtopic
[07:00] <bilalakhtar> @comment 35328 Talking about girlfriends on the ubuntu channel and giving a link to a bad image
[07:00] <bilalakhtar> ^ is a better comment
[07:01] <maco> @comment 35328 Talking about girlfriends on the ubuntu channel and giving a link to a bad image
[07:03] <bilalakhtar> thanks maco
[12:34] <bilalakhtar> #ubuntu is being repeatedly spammed
[12:34] <bazhang> idoru seems not to be kicking in
[12:36] <bilalakhtar> hmm
[12:37] <ikonia> has anyone set +r ?
[12:37] <bilalakhtar> bazhang: but all it did was to remove or kill the nick, right?
[12:37] <bilalakhtar> ikonia: the FloodBot
[12:37] <ikonia> so it is set now /
[12:37] <ikonia> ?
[12:37] <bazhang> ah working again
[12:38] <bazhang> bilalakhtar, usually kill then kline
[12:38] <ikonia> I've never seen idoru kline
[12:38] <bazhang> the kill is faster, then in background or so I recall from staff
[12:41] <bilalakhtar> kline?
[12:42] <ikonia> remove from the network
[12:45] <bazhang> * [BlockcolD] (~John-Smit@<IP_ADDRESS>): John-Smith   jungli trying to get another cloak
[12:45] <ikonia> he won't
[12:45] <ikonia> staff are all over him
[15:21] <IdleOne> we need someone from -cn to edit that factoid so it includes the /join command.
[15:22] <Pici> The ylmfos people aren't even using Ubuntu, they're using some weirdly modified version of it.
[15:22] <IdleOne> Pici: yup, but they seem to get help in -cn for it
[15:22] <Pici> IdleOne: Do we actually know that?
[15:22] <IdleOne> last I heard, -cn did offer some support
[15:23] <IdleOne> not sure to what extent
[15:23] <IdleOne> but being able to get ylmfos people to a channel where they are understood is better then repeating a factoid they don't understand
[15:24] <Pici> Agreed.
[15:25] <IdleOne> I tried asking in -cn and also in -irc for someone to edit that factoid in the past.
[15:25] <jussi> doesnt bazhang understand chinese? (iirc)
[15:25] <IdleOne> I believe so
[15:26] <IdleOne> I'll ask him next time if he can edit
[15:26] <IdleOne> next time I see him online
[15:26] <jussi> !grub2
[15:26] <jussi> !grub
[15:27] <jussi> thoughts on how to fix that so its more current?
[15:27] <Pici> Karmic is still supported.
[15:28] <jussi> Pici: I was trying to point out that the current release has grub 2, so probably a good idea to include it in the default !grub factoidd? no?
[15:28] <IdleOne> jussi: probably just better to make !grub the default and !grub2 and alias
[15:28] <IdleOne> imo
[15:28] <IdleOne> and/an
[15:29] <jussi> IdleOne: then we should probably bring in that very useful grub2 url
[15:30] <IdleOne> grub is <reply> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:31] <IdleOne> hows that?
[15:32] <jussi> !-grub
[15:32] <jussi> no, grub is <reply> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:32] <jussi> !no, grub is <reply> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:32] <jussi> !grub
[15:32] <IdleOne> now forget grub2 and make it an alias to grub
[15:32] <jussi> !no, GRUB is <reply> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:33] <jussi> !no, grub is <reply> grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[15:33] <jussi> oh for petes sake :(
[15:33] <Pici> !grub =~ s/grub/GRUB/
[15:34] <jussi> !no, grub2 is <alias>grub
[15:39] <IdleOne> googleearth-package is in Section: multiverse
[15:39] <IdleOne> should we edit that factoid
[15:40] <IdleOne> hate giving medibuntu if we don't need to.
[15:40] <IdleOne> hate is strong
[15:40] <IdleOne> more like don't like to if we don't need to
[15:42] <jussi> IdleOne: suggestion for wording? (and which factoidd?)
[15:43] <IdleOne> jussi: apperantly googleearth-package pulls from google and builds the package whereas the medibuntu .deb is built
[15:44] <IdleOne> so not sure which is better to recommend
[15:44] <jussi> IdleOne: sounds fine to me - I much rather use multiverse, so proposals?
[15:44] <IdleOne> !googleearth
[15:45] <jussi> IdleOne: multiverse==official repo, medibuntu == trusted but not official.
[15:46] <IdleOne> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >>
[15:46] <IdleOne> look good?
[15:47] <jussi> maybe something in there that points to !repos for enabling multiverse?
[15:47] <IdleOne> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager.
[15:47] <IdleOne> multiverse is enabled by default now
[15:47] <IdleOne> iirc
[15:49] <IdleOne> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager. See !repos for enabling Multiverse repository.
[15:49] <IdleOne> there
[15:49] <IdleOne> just in case
[15:53] <jussi> hrm, perhaps its better to do our research here
[15:57] <IdleOne> I'll install it and see
[16:05] <jussi> !no, googleearth is <reply> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager.
[16:07] <Tm_T>  it's now free in price?
[16:07] <IdleOne> has always been
[16:07] <jussi> Tm_T: when hasnt it been=
[16:07] <jussi> ?
[16:08] <Tm_T> but the factoid implies...
[16:08] <IdleOne> jussi: <Dr_Willis> IdleOne:  theres a check box/question at the start of the installer i think that enables it - if you tell it to.
[16:08] <IdleOne> re: multiverse
[16:08] <Tm_T> ye
[16:08] <jussi> !no, googleearth is <reply> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. Install the googleearth-package from multiverse << sudo apt-get install googleearth-package >> or search for googleearth-package using the Software Center or Synaptic package manager. See !repos for enabling Multiverse repository.
[16:09] <IdleOne> yeah, better have the ref to repos
[16:09] <IdleOne> for those who don't check the box
[16:09] <Tm_T> somehow whole free part irks me
[16:10] <Tm_T> now, free, for linux too! (;)
[16:10] <IdleOne> Tm_T: the app is free but not open source, that's why it's in multiverse
[16:10] <Tm_T> I know
[16:10] <IdleOne> I think
[16:11] <Tm_T> my point is, it's been available for free for a long time now, for linux too
[16:11] <IdleOne> right
[16:11] <IdleOne> well, edit that part out :)
[16:11] <Tm_T> I'd just drop the whole advertising sentence off (:
[16:12] <IdleOne> !googleearth =~ s/, for Linux, too././
[16:13] <jussi> !googleearth =~ s/, for Linux, too././
[16:13] <IdleOne> !googleearth
[16:13] <Tm_T> there's still the now
[16:13] <IdleOne> everybody happy now? ;)
[16:13] <IdleOne> lol
[16:14] <IdleOne> !googleearth =~ s/now//
[16:14] <IdleOne> I'll tell you it's a wonder ubottu doesn't slap me upside the head
[16:16] <jussi> !googleearth =~ s/now//
[17:04]  * LjL rolls eyes
[17:04] <ikonia> what's up ?
[17:04] <LjL> you tell me
[17:04] <LjL> i'm forwarded here
[17:04] <ikonia> ???
[17:04] <ikonia> from where?
[17:05] <LjL> must have to do with #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:05] <ikonia> hang on
[17:08] <ikonia> digging now
[17:09] <ikonia> from what I can see its a ban on your and metabot's cloaks which looking at some logs is because the bot is reconnecting a lot
[17:09] <ikonia> do you share the same host as the bot ?
[17:10] <LjL> nah it's not that
[17:10] <ikonia> ?
[17:11] <LjL> though do feel free to remove the bans on metabot, since its connection should be fixed now
[17:11] <ikonia> ok, I'll sort that
[17:11] <ikonia> I'll look a little deeper in the logs, unless you know what it's about ?
[17:11] <LjL> but i'm pretty sure the reason i'm banned from -ot is because i called someone a fucking idiot
[17:12] <ikonia> oooooh
[17:12] <ikonia> well, I guess you know the deal on that,
[17:12] <ikonia> saves me trawling through logs
[17:12] <Tm_T> ah, indeed
[17:13] <LjL> yeah well i don't know how it works now though. i mean, i know the guidelines and stuff already
[17:13] <Tm_T> ikonia: I can paste stuff if you need
[17:13] <ikonia> I guess it's just a case of toning down the langauge, but you know the drills, so if you know the issue, I'll remove the ban
[17:13] <ikonia> Tm_T: it's fine, unless there is something i "should" know out the ordinary
[17:13] <ikonia> LjL knows the guidelines, so as long as he can follow them, I don't see an issue (unless there is something I'm missing)
[17:13] <Tm_T> nah, nothing more than what he said really
[17:14] <LjL> i know the guidelines and am prepared to break them in rare circumstances when i feel it's warranted :)
[17:14] <LjL> if you feel that deserves a couple of days' ban, that's ok
[17:14] <Tm_T> LjL: just one thing I would like to add to this discussion, with all good intention: next time it might be good to part before going over the line (:
[17:15] <topyli> LjL: it's a shame though, that we seem to keep having to ban you :)
[17:15] <Tm_T> not after
[17:15] <LjL> well
[17:15] <LjL> robinetd went very well over the line by being an absolute prick several times
[17:15] <IdleOne> removed ban on metabot
[17:15] <LjL> now he's gone
[17:15] <ikonia> I'd already done it
[17:15] <Tm_T> LjL: there's no excuse for bad behaviour (;
[17:15] <IdleOne> in #ubuntu ikonia ?
[17:15] <LjL> so i can't honestly say i regret calling him a what i did
[17:16] <LjL> Tm_T: well i'll have to disagree there
[17:16] <Tm_T> LjL: I know, we've been through this several times (:
[17:16] <LjL> i never took the guidelines as something i must absolutely never break
[17:16] <topyli> he does get on my nerves often too. we've had a long talk in pm and lately it's been easier
[17:18] <IdleOne> LjL: I think the idea is that if we start to pick and chose when it is ok to break the guidelines we will spend the rest of our lives deciding/talking about it with every single user who does.
[17:19] <IdleOne> this from someone who has also broken them in a similar fashion
[17:19] <IdleOne> actually i think I used the exact same words
[17:19] <LjL> IdleOne: we talked already about the fact that in my opinion you have too little flexibility, this is one of the case where i think this applies
[17:20] <LjL> of course, though, it could be conceivable that ops dealt with problem users in a timely enough manner not to require bolder actions from people like me ;)
[17:20] <IdleOne> although I agree with you. I still think that we can argue and be civil
[17:21] <IdleOne> rules are rules and all that. let's follow them as best we can.
[17:21] <LjL> well i think i would not have obtained the effect i wanted by being civil
[17:22] <LjL> well here's how things stand
[17:22] <topyli> sure you would have, you just did it the lazy way :)
[17:22] <LjL> i'm prepared to break these "rules" in the fashion of wikipedia's "ignore all rules" rule (which i think you'll find does not actually make the other rules devoid of value)
[17:23] <LjL> so if someone acts as a prick again and again like robinetd did, i'm prepared to act boldly again
[17:23] <IdleOne> let's hope it doesn't come to that
[17:26] <topyli> well best advice i can give is take it to pm if you're having a problem with someone like him, the channels are a poorly chosen venue
[17:29] <LjL> something else i can't refrain from mentioning
[17:30] <LjL> you see, here the issue was apparently my use of the word "fucking", because a number of times people (including ops here) have called someone in the channel an "idiot"
[17:30] <topyli> which of course is not ok either
[17:31] <LjL> i'm not really saying it in reference to my case (it actually doesn't help me), but i do think insulting someone by calling them an idiot or otherwise is *much worse* than just using a random swearwords
[17:31] <LjL> a number of times, i've been surprised by people - ops - seemingly thinking otherwise
[17:31] <LjL> i'll be sure to point it out when i seen it happening since it makes me uneasy, doesn't really feel right
[17:32] <topyli> please do, yes
[17:33] <IdleOne> LjL: I spoke to robinetd in PM about calling ldunn stupid and told him that it wasn't acceptable.
[17:33] <LjL> calling him stupid, or calling everyone who disagrees with him a troll.
[17:33] <IdleOne> I HATE that word and it being used to insult someone
[17:33] <LjL> that's called, well, being a troll.
[17:51] <IdleOne> LjL: if there's nothing else I need to ask you to part this channel. You are unbanned from -ot
[17:52] <IdleOne> go forth and spread love and happiness
[17:52] <LjL> i'm not unbanned from -ot
[17:52] <IdleOne> hmm
[17:52] <IdleOne> can someone lift the ban please
[17:52] <LjL> also, i'm wondering something
[17:52] <Tm_T> I'm on it
[17:52] <LjL> what's the "IRC team domain" now that the IRC Team is deprecated?
[17:53] <Tm_T> IdleOne: pfffft (:
[17:53] <IdleOne> done
[17:54] <IdleOne> sorry Tm_T I got @ in there for a second
[17:54] <IdleOne> !ubuntu-irc-team I believe
[17:54] <IdleOne> ~ubuntu-irc-team I believe
[17:54] <Tm_T> I had my finger in the enter when you did it (:
[17:54] <LjL> there's no ~ubuntu-irc-team, there is an ~ubuntu-irc, but it says "This team currently does not serve any purpose. If you are interested in becoming an operator in a core Ubuntu IRC channel, please see ..."
[17:55] <IdleOne> ubuntu-operators maybe
[17:55] <IdleOne> I'm not sure
[17:57] <LjL> well perhaps a council member could clarify?
[17:57] <jussi> LjL: Im not really certain what you are asking, but Im guessing you mean: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ops
[17:58] <IdleOne> ahh that's the one
[17:58] <tsimpson> LjL: the team domain is all core channels: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope
[17:58] <LjL> i see
[17:58] <LjL> in that case i'm entitled to stay here :)
[17:58] <tsimpson> yep
[17:59] <IdleOne> your an op in a core channel?
[17:59] <tsimpson> and you should have +v too :)
[17:59] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne: You're!
[17:59] <IdleOne> you're
[17:59] <LjL> i'm an op in #ubuntu-bots, yes
[17:59] <IdleOne> why do you always show up to correct me :P
[17:59] <IdleOne> well then
[17:59] <IdleOne> +vV LjL
[18:01] <IdleOne> next IRCC meeting: revisit the core status of #ubuntu-bots (keep LjL out of -ops) :P
[18:01]  * IdleOne welcomes your presence here for the record
[18:01] <LjL> hi little one
[18:02]  * Pici blinks
[18:03] <IdleOne> Welcome home
[18:03] <LjL> poor Pici got a heart attack :(
[18:03] <IdleOne> now rejoin -ot. I removed your ban :)
[18:03] <IdleOne> *I*
[18:03] <LjL> maybe later, thanks
[18:03] <IdleOne> k
[19:02] <Flannel> So, did anyone keep a log of the meeting today? seeing that the log bot doesn't appear to have survived yesterdays splits?
[19:02] <Pici> We're still having it.
[19:02] <IdleOne> almost finished
[19:02] <Pici> And the logbot is bonkers.
[19:03] <tonyyarusso> I have logs, yes.
[19:03] <Pici> mootbot will have logs too.
[19:18] <topyli> mootbot might be in the mood for abstractions this time though
[19:24] <jussi> Flannel: what you need is on the TR page :)
[19:30] <Flannel> jussi: w.u.c is giving 500s
[19:31] <jussi> Flannel: bleh
[19:31] <jussi> wfm though
[19:32] <jussi> Flannel: http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-meeting.log.20101128_1204.html
[19:33] <Flannel> works now, yeah.
[19:33] <Flannel> Also, the first paragraph you read on wiki.ubuntu.com is rather... harsh and probably bad.
[19:34] <Flannel> STOP This is the place for people willing to help to improve Ubuntu. If you are looking for user help related documentation you are in the wrong place.
[19:35] <Flannel> Not that you all needed to know, just that I felt like sharing :)
[19:35]  * jussi notes its a wiki!  ;)
[19:52] <Flannel> yeah, we'll see if someone gets uppity about it.  There's a bajillion people subscribed.
[20:22] <rww> Can ubuntu-irc get meeting reminders more than a few hours in advance in future? Perhaps a day or so?
[20:24] <tonyyarusso> +1 to that
[20:25] <tonyyarusso> although, add it to your Google Calendar and set up your own reminders!
[20:25] <rww> It is on my Google Calendar. I suppose this indicates how often I check said calendar :(
[20:26] <tonyyarusso> You can add alerts you know...
[20:27]  * rww investigates this
[20:27] <rww> ooo
[20:28] <rww> Never mind, meeting reminder people, you just got replaced by google robots (:
[20:28] <rww> (It's still probably a good idea, though ;P)
[20:29] <tonyyarusso> I'm amazed that you didn't know this ;)
[20:30] <rww> I haven't explored GCal like I have their other offerings, is why.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Could someone invite me to #ubuntu-ops-monitor?
[21:37] <LjL> Jordan_U: you should be able to join
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Thanks.
[22:41] <ikonia> waiting for r007 to respond to a pm
[22:42] <Flannel> just noticed #u wasn't +z!
[22:43] <Pici> :o
[22:43] <ikonia> oops
[22:43] <Pici> My irssi aliases set +z when I set +q.
[22:52] <ikonia> hello there Slart
[22:53] <Slart> hi there
[22:53] <Slart> some guy nicked xtremo auto-messaged me when I joined..
[22:53] <ikonia> oh really ?
[22:53] <Slart> with some kind of facebook spam, it seems.. it's in spanish so I'm not really sure
[22:54] <ikonia> lets have a check
[22:54] <Pici> too slow ;)
[22:55] <Slart> nice.. thanks
[22:55] <ikonia> ah you checked it out
[22:55] <Slart> I'm off into the normal channel, thanks again for the help
[22:58] <Flannel> r007 came back, has anyone successfully made any sort of contact with him?
[22:58] <ikonia> no
[22:58] <ikonia> ahh he's just messaged me
[23:05]  * Pici grinds his teeth
[23:08] <elky> Um, really, we have hacking people's accounts as the topic?
[23:09] <Pici> I think it was supposed to be funny.
[23:11] <elky> Sure, but that's not seeming to be how it's getting across to peple
[23:12] <Pici> It would help if people read more than just one part of the topic.
[23:12] <elky> Yeah
[23:13] <elky> Although, conflicting the guidelines with the topic of hacking people's accounts probably doesn't help that much.
[23:15] <Pici> elky: Change it then.
[23:17] <elky> Pici, who is drm?
[23:18] <Pici> elky: No idea. This is the first time I've seen him.
[23:30] <Pici> Preferably don't do it anywhere....
[23:30] <ikonia> idoru saw him off
[23:30] <Pici> Indeedy
[23:31] <Flannel> ikonia: Still talking to r007? or has there been some resolution?
[23:31] <ikonia> Flannel: he logged off
[23:31] <Flannel> Ah
[23:32] <ikonia> I asked him to stop being offtopic, and he told me to check what he said in the channel as he'd agreed to already (which he didnt) while I was checking he signed off
[23:54] <IdleOne> keep an eye on mannyuel in #u not entirely sure they will follow guidelines


[11:01] <coolbhavi> hello guys I am bhavani shankar an ubuntu member, was wondering how to get the irc cloak back on libera-chat
[11:01] <coolbhavi> so, any help will be appreciated
[11:19] <coolbhavi> my lp page link https://launchpad.net/~bhavi
[18:59] <tomreyn> BenC: i can't enact your request, but if you can provide your launchpad ID, that'll help those who can.
[19:12] <BenC> ben-collins is my launchpad ID
[19:25] <tomreyn> BenC: https://launchpad.net/~ben-collins says your registered nick on the irc.libera.chat IRC network is "Ben". this seems to belong to someone else, though, and you're logged in as "benc" now. if my assumption is correct, would you mind updating your LP profile?
[19:27] <BenC> Eh, must have been a autocorrect…let me fix it.
[19:27] <BenC> Fixed
[19:27] <tomreyn> (you may also want to make sure your email addresses are correct / can receive mail which you'll get to see)
[19:27] <BenC> Done
[19:29] <BenC> All of them are correct.
[19:29] <tomreyn> So, for whoever can work on this: BenC is requesting a members cloak.