[01:57] <mmikowski> CoJaBo: You mean win key to open start menu?
[02:15] <CoJaBo> mmikowski: I mean to use it as a "compose" key.
[02:16] <CoJaBo> There's an option in settings to do that, it just doesn't work. Hasn't for years, apparently, I hit this with 20.04 too, tho I don't recall how I fixed it
[02:16] <ThinkTank2> i think I was mistakenly bant
[02:16] <ThinkTank2> from libera chat
[02:16] <ThinkTank2> are there any ops here
[02:19] <mmikowski> CoJaBo: the "fix" for get standard super key function back is to right-click on the gear and "configure application launcher", then set the keyboard shortcut to meta + f1 iirc. that then makes meta work as expected with the launcher.
[02:19] <mmikowski> What is the "compose" key supposed to do?
[02:19] <mmikowski> Like compose an email or something?
[02:20] <mmikowski> Oh, I got it - looked it up.
[02:20] <mmikowski> compose character key.
[02:21] <ThinkTank2> Hello, I believe I have been mistakenly banned from this channel. I apologize if I did anything to warrant a ban, but I am not aware of any rules or guidelines that I have violated. I enjoy participating in this community and I would appreciate it if you could take a look into my situation and possibly lift the ban. Thank you for your time and
[02:21] <ThinkTank2> understanding.
[02:22] <mmikowski> CoJaBo: sorry, that's the best I got :P
[02:39] <ThinkTank2> Hello,
[02:39] <ThinkTank2> I am writing to appeal a ban that was recently imposed on me on [channel name]. I was banned on [date and time], and I believe that the ban was a mistake. I am writing to request that the ban be lifted so that I may continue participating in the channel.
[02:39] <ThinkTank2> I apologize if I violated any rules or guidelines, but I do not believe that I did anything wrong. I have been an active member community, and I have always tried to contribute positively to the discussions.
[02:39] <ThinkTank2> I would appreciate it if you could review my case and lift the ban if you find that there was no justification for it. If there was a misunderstanding or a mistake on my part, I would be happy to discuss the matter and take any necessary steps to rectify the situation.
[02:39] <ThinkTank2> Thank you for your time and consideration, and I hope to be able to rejoin the channel soon.
[03:11] <CoJaBo> Yeh, I want it to work as a different key, not to open a menu
[03:13] <CoJaBo> It actually doesn't even seem to register it as being pressed at all; I can't even assign it as a keyboard shortcut to do that.
[07:33] <mmikowski> CoJaBo: Are you running 5.27? It appears some improvements were made there.
[10:35] <CoJaBo> mmikowski: I don't know how to check; it's whatever comes with Kubuntu 22.04 LTS
[10:35] <CoJaBo> 22.04.2 LTS
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:32] <user|99> how can II use a scanner
[14:33] <user|99> I have a driver for Canon mg3550 but I don't know how to proceed
 23.04 will ship with kernel 6.2 right? Anyone tried how nvidia behaves on 6.2 kernel?
 Im waiting for the release to switch from manjaro, I hope its as good as here on 6.2 :)
 Any issues on nvidia?
 nop, runs perfectly fine
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[00:09] <ner0x> Anyone know how to set up a win modem?
[00:12] <avihayb> !ndis
[00:12] <avihayb> :-<
[00:12] <ner0x> ?
[00:13] <avihayb> well, to install a win modem, you need to use ndiswrapper
[00:14] <avihayb> or so I've come tp belive...
[00:18] <ner0x> You can use ndiswrapper to wrap around the drivers?
[00:18] <ner0x> It's not a wireless care, it's an actual pci phone line modem.
[00:18] <avihayb> yes, I belive it works for winmodems. wikipedia claims it's for wireless drivers
[00:19] <Dragnslcr> !winmodem | ner0x
[00:21] <ner0x> Not connect, fax.
[00:21] <ner0x> But if I can get the modem working it would be a great success.
[00:22] <mieeman> hello, how to configure dolphin to use double click when opening files/folder?
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> mieeman- should be somewhere in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> mieeman- it isn't a Dolphin setting, it's a common setting used throughout KDE
[00:25] <mieeman> thanks for that
[00:49] <donnybrasco> hi, can anyone help me specify which monitor I want AWN to be on?
[00:50] <donnybrasco> I currently have my laptop configured (as primary) with a secondary flatscreen - AWN keeps popping up on the secondary monitor, but my panel is on the laptop display.
[01:06] <kisisten> hi, kde has a window called "software updates" in kubuntu. When I click to apply updates, it displays the updates available and performs package scan. When I hit "Apply updates" it freezes up
[01:07] <Serpardum> What is the kde graphics program again?  I thought it was installed by default but I guess not.  Can't remember the name though to apt get it
[01:12] <alesan> how do I install KDE4.3? I have added the repository but which package I have to install?
[01:13] <Sevis> Alesan - have you tried update & upgrade?
[01:13] <alesan> Sevis, no, I have just followed the link on the topic
[01:13] <alesan> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3
[01:13] <alesan> I have added that repository deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[01:13] <alesan> and the repository key
[01:13] <alesan> now, shall I just install kubuntu-desktop?
[01:14] <Sevis> Just try apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[01:14] <alesan> Sevis, I do not have kde 4 installed
[01:14] <alesan> do not make assumptions
[01:15] <alesan> I just have kde3 (that I use all the time) and gnome
[01:15] <Sevis> Which distribution and version have you got?
[01:16] <alesan> ubuntu 9.04 why?
[01:16] <avihayb> how did you get kde 3 installed in 9.04?
[01:17] <alesan> following the instructions on this channel
[01:17] <Sevis> Well, seeing as KDE3 isn't included as default in 9.04, I'm not quite sure, but you can try kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <alesan> I added a special repository and that had kde3
[01:17] <alesan> let me tell you the kde3 repo
[01:17] <Sevis> On the other hand, there's kubuntu-kde4-desktop, that might help.
[01:18] <alesan> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kde3-maintainers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[01:18] <avihayb> domo arigato ale-san
[01:19] <alesan> I am italian
[01:19] <alesan> if that was something japanese :)
[01:19] <avihayb> so?
[01:20] <Sevis> arigato is thanks, -san is Mr, and domo is... Very?
[01:20] <Sevis> Or lots?
[01:20] <alesan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domo_arigato
[01:20] <avihayb> let me say it in japanease in a way that you'll understand, since you seem to understand english: senque ale-san
[01:21] <Serpardum> gimp?  I think that's it
[01:22] <avihayb> well, as much as my sensei toldm, you are correct sev. she also says that you can drop the arigato, since it's a common expression
[01:22] <avihayb> toldm->told me
[01:24] <Sevis> Errr... Drop the arigato? So just domo ale-san? Doesn't sound quite right, seeing as arigato is the "thank". Ah well, I guess she knows better O.o
[01:25] <ner0x> Agere linmodems, any faq on it yet?
[01:26] <avihayb> Sevis: I saw samorai jack use it in the chapter where he got his "sandels" destroyed...
[01:29] <alesan> anyway the san in my name has nothing to do with japanese it's only my last name
[01:29] <alesan> ALEssio SANgalli
[01:29] <alesan> it was my username in a old netware 3 system.
[01:30] <Sevis> We've got someone called something like Garudesu on our realm, I always call him Garu de gozaru
[01:30] <Sevis> Anyway, we might want to move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <skryingsword> Hi folks. I am running 9.04 on my HP dv6000 laptop (amd64) and I have a problem with screen resolution
[01:35] <avihayb> alesan, that repository seems to only contain kde3 apps, but no desktop package
[01:36] <alesan> there should be a kde3-desktop or similar
[01:36] <avihayb> didn't find it
[01:37] <alesan> I have a kubuntu-desktop-kde package
[01:38] <alesan> ok I have installed 4.3
[01:38] <alesan> I will now try to use it.
[01:40] <alesan> ok I am in kde4.3
[01:40] <alesan> panic
[01:40] <alesan> how do I get a K menu like it was before
[01:40] <Sevis> "Switch to Classic K Menu style"?
[01:40] <alesan> oh found it
[01:41] <alesan> yeah sorry for the stupid question
[01:41] <Sevis> No problem, hate that new menu :)
[01:41] <alesan> now I will have to change the windows decoration theme to KDE2 style and change the cursor theme also
[01:41] <Sevis> ONce you revert it, it actually becomes quite close to KDE 3.5 in decency, imho, at least 4.2 does.
[01:42] <alesan> mh
[01:42] <alesan> where do I chnage settings? there is no kcontrol
[01:43] <Sevis> System -> System Settings
[01:44] <Sevis> Then Appearance.
[01:44] <alesan> I have system testing and system monitor under "system" in the menu
[01:46] <alesan> for exampe where do I change themes
[01:46] <donnybrasco> anyone know how to make my external hd mount on startup?
[01:46] <Sevis> Hmm
[01:46] <Sevis> Donnybrasco - use /etc/fstab
[01:47] <Sevis> Alesan -> they must have changed it, sorry.
[01:47] <alesan> ok
[01:48] <GnuSeb> Hello there, i'm trying to install the UNR version on my laptop from a flashdrive but the boot manager doesnt list the usb as a bootable option it only lists dvd/cd rom drive, i was wondering if i burn the image of the UNR onto a dvd will it work?
[01:51] <alesan> how do I add the "quick app launcher" widget to the task bar?
[01:56] <GnuSeb> can i partition for dual booting from wubi, leaving windows untouched?
[01:57] <Sevis> Wubi automatically does this, Gnuseb.
[01:57] <GnuSeb> so i won't have to reinstall windows afterward or repartition?
[01:57] <GnuSeb> just run wubi.exe from the flashdrive?
[01:58] <alesan> how do I move a widget in the task bar? I wantr to put a specific widget tothe left
[02:00] <Dragnslcr> GnuSeb- Wubi creates a disk image on the Windows file system, then adds an entry in the Windows boot loader to boot Ubuntu from that disk image
[02:00] <Dragnslcr> I guess you could think of it as a virtual partition within the Windows partition
[02:00] <GnuSeb> i clicked on wubi(which is on the flashdrive) and nothing happened
[02:00] <GnuSeb> it won't run or something
[02:01] <GnuSeb> i tried booting from the usb but the boot manager of my laptop only had the dvd/cd drive and hard drive options
[02:01] <GnuSeb> it didn't list usb as a bootable option
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> You wouldn't boot from a USB drive with Wubi on it
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> You run the executable normally. I don't know why it wouldn't run from a USB drive though
[02:02] <GnuSeb> i downloaded the unr version then checked hash sum then i used the disk image writer
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> You could try checking the process list to see if wubi.exe is running
[02:02] <GnuSeb> when i open the flashdrive it shows a bunch of folders and wubi at thebottom
[02:02] <GnuSeb> i did it doesnt show it as running
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> Try copying the Wubi executable to a hard drive and running it from there
[02:03] <Dragnslcr> I haven't used it in a while, but it was pretty easy last time I did
[02:06] <GnuSeb> ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-1386.img is the filei have
[02:06] <GnuSeb> if i burn that onto a dvd will it work as a bootable?
[02:09] <avihayb> wait, doesn't it come as an iso?
[02:10] <GnuSeb> no, look, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=unr-newest&mirror=ftp%3A%2F%2Freleases.ubuntu.com.ba%2Fubuntu%2Freleases%2F&arch=i386
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> That's only for running Ubuntu directly from the USB drive without doing a normal installation
[02:13] <GnuSeb> tha'ts what i intended doing
[02:13] <GnuSeb> but then when i triedto boot fromthe usb
[02:13] <GnuSeb> the bootmanager wouldn't show the option of booting from it
[02:13] <GnuSeb> it only showed dvdcd rom or hard drive as bootables
[02:14] <avihayb> it's ok, wubi will use the windows bootloader
[02:14] <avihayb> the windows bootloader is placed on your first hdd
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> I don't think Wubi will work with a USB disk image
[02:14] <avihayb> well, forget what I said
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> Wubi is meant to do a normal Ubuntu install to a virtual disk on the Windows partition
[02:15] <Sevis> Yep. Wubi does not remove the Windows install, you cannot use it to replace Windows.
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> I can't imagine why anything new enough to warrant using UNR wouldn't be able to boot from USB though
[02:16] <GnuSeb> what i want to do is install from a flashdrive, and partition for dual booting, i don't have cds to burn the iso files only dvd-r's
[02:16] <avihayb> I don't think that the wubi installation will be able to use the usb drive without loading a driver for it
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> Wubi can use a .iso file to install from
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> You don't need to burn the .iso to a real disc
[02:17] <Sevis> Wubi can probably see USB, but what of it?
[02:17] <Sevis> GnuSeb,  you can just make your Windows partition smaller, then install them side by side. Should work fine.
[02:18] <GnuSeb> i apologize
[02:18] <GnuSeb> but i am getting confused
[02:18] <alesan> kde 4.3 is a total waste of time :(
[02:18] <GnuSeb> this i have just done: reformated my flash drive
[02:18] <alesan> back to kde 3 :(
[02:18] <GnuSeb> and started downloading the iso for the standard desktop
[02:19] <GnuSeb> remember i only have dvds to burn, and a flash drive
[02:19] <GnuSeb> i'm all ears
[02:19] <Sevis> GnuSeb - have you got a Live Boot DVD going?
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, Wubi can just install from a .iso file
[02:20] <Sevis> Yes, it can.
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> Dunno why there isn't a UNR .iso
[02:20] <Sevis> And you can also make a live boot USB from a .iso file.
[02:20] <GnuSeb> Sevis, i have just started downloading the iso file
[02:20] <avihayb> I think you can create a cd sized partition, dump the iso's content there, boot from it, repertition and install linux, and remove the partition. I'd rather go to the shop and buy a cd
[02:21] <GnuSeb> this is exactly what i did
[02:21] <GnuSeb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[02:22] <Sevis> Errr... GnuSeb, why not just use the creation utility to make a live boot USB?
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> That's for install from a USB drive, which I think requires its own partition
[02:22] <GnuSeb> what creation utility?
[02:22] <Sevis> GnuSeb - you want a dual boot?
[02:22] <GnuSeb> and yes i wanted to install from a usb drive because i don't ahve cds only dvds and a flashdrive
[02:22] <GnuSeb> so i formatted the flashdrive to fat32
[02:23] <GnuSeb> and yes i want a dual boot
[02:23] <Sevis> There's a Live Boot USB creation utility.
[02:23] <Sevis> GnuSeb, you know you can get live boot DVDs, right?
[02:23] <GnuSeb> i am on a really slow connection, it's downloading the iso, i already have the .img file for the  unr, and no i didn't know that, what do i have to do for that?
[02:24] <kub1> "kdebase" is not installed on my recently installed KU 904 with todays apt-update.  Shouldn't it be???
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> If you try to install from a USB drive, you'll have to repartition your hard drive
[02:24] <GnuSeb> i'd bemost grateful if you could help me install the unr from the flashdrive whilst leaving windows intact on a different partition for dual booting
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> I don't think Wubi can install from USB
[02:24] <Sevis> It's on the FTP... Somewhere.
[02:24] <Sevis> Wubi is included on liveboot USBs, but you need to boot into Windows.
[02:25] <GnuSeb> i tried booting from the usb, boot manager didn't show an option for that
[02:25] <GnuSeb> tried clicking on wubi opening the usb from windows
[02:25] <GnuSeb> wubi wouldn't run
[02:26] <kub1> Is there a KU developers irc channel?
[02:27] <Dragnslcr> I think it's #kubuntu-devel
[02:27] <kub1> Dragnslcr: thx, & do you know this:,
[02:28] <kub1> "kdebase" is not installed on my recently installed KU 904 with todays apt-update.  Shouldn't it be???
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, it's installed for me, but it looks like it may just be a metapackage
[02:30] <GnuSeb> Dragnslcr, what do you recomend i do?
[02:30] <GnuSeb> how can i make the bootable img usb work
[02:30] <kub1> apt-get -s install kdebase shows: The following new packages will be installed: kappfinder kdebase kwrite
[02:30] <avihayb> this is in the right direction: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=266068
[02:31] <Pliskin_> kub1 : kdebase is just a meta-package
[02:31] <Pliskin_> it depends on some packages not installed by kubuntu, so the meta-package is not installed either
[02:32] <Pliskin_> kub1 : a meta-package is a "fake" package that depend on other packages
[02:33] <avihayb> ok, this seems perfect for the job: http://www.megaleecher.net/Boot_USB_Without_Motherboard_Support
[02:34] <Pliskin_> kub1 : but the important packages which kdebase depends on are installed (konqueror...etc) so don't worry, it's normal
[02:34] <kub1> Pliskin_: so, under what circumstances would it be appropriate or useful to install, or have installed, kdebase?
[02:34] <Pliskin_> they don't install everything on kubuntu because of the lack of space in a CD
[02:34] <kub1> Pliskin_: ie, what is the purpose of this very "basically named" package?
[02:34] <Pliskin_> kub1 : if you want "all" the apps of kdebase
[02:35] <Pliskin_> but someare useless so kubuntu devs don't install them by default
[02:35] <GnuSeb> can i use a dvd insteadof a cd and burn the iso onto it?
[02:35] <kub1> Pliskin_: well, shouldn't a basic install include "all" of the kde base applications??
[02:35] <GnuSeb> as in, will it work
[02:35] <Pliskin_> to keep space
[02:35] <Pliskin_> kub1 : kubuntu avoid duplicated softwares, there is already kate, so why installing kwrite ?
[02:36] <Pliskin_> kappfinder is pretty useless
[02:36] <Pliskin_> etc...
[02:36] <GnuSeb> what if i burn the img for the usb
[02:36] <Pliskin_> but you can install them if you want
[02:36] <GnuSeb> onto a dvd
[02:36] <GnuSeb> and try to boot from that?
[02:36] <Pliskin_> they're just not ther by default
[02:36] <GnuSeb> since my system doens't list usb as a bootable option
[02:36] <GnuSeb> will that work?
[02:37] <kub1> Pliskin_: well, so you're saying they are basically of little value, therfore don't bother istalling it?  If so, why does it have such a "basic" (ie, read 'essential') name?  Shouldn't the kde or KU dev's just get rid of it if it is useless, & let those useless things be some kind of optional stuff?
[02:38] <Pliskin_> kub1 : it's an upstream issue
[02:38] <Pliskin_> KDE != Kubuntu
[02:38] <Pliskin_> Kubuntu find them useless, but KDE ships them in kdebase
[02:39] <kub1> Pliskin_: thx, I'll ask in #kde :)
[02:39] <Pliskin_> the meta-packages respect the "arboressence" (is it an english word ?) of KDE SVN
[02:40] <Pliskin_> that's why, kub1
[02:46] <kub1> Anyone know when KU904 will get the functionality like in adept, the gui apt mgr in KU 804? ie, something better than KPackageKit?
[02:47] <GnuSeb> I GOT A CDR!
[02:47] <GnuSeb> now i'll just burn the .img of the unr onto the cdr
[02:47] <GnuSeb> and i'll boot from that
[02:47] <GnuSeb> swiss effing watch...haxor
[02:47] <Dragnslcr> kub1- you'll have to be more specific about what functionality you're missing
[02:48] <GnuSeb> the disk imager won't read the cdr as a usb to write the img onto it
[02:48] <GnuSeb> ...
[02:50] <GnuSeb> ok, now i am downloading the .iso
[02:51] <GnuSeb> and it says it will take five hours
[02:51] <GnuSeb> that's a nuissance
[02:52] <kub1> Dragnslcr: well, just about all the functionality in Adept is lacking in KPK - KPK has almost nothing Adept has - searching, aspects of packages, package categories & groupings, ... - so, any idea when KU/KDE4 will have that functionality - or should i ask on #kde??
[02:55] <GnuSeb> is there a unr iso available for jaunty?
[02:58] <abhilash> hello sir i am abhilash MCA installed KDE but i selected Gdm so now i want KDE how can i change
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> kub1- KPackageKit's search is far better than the KDE4 version of Adept's
[02:59] <abhilash> i am abhilash MCA installed KDE but i selected Gdm so now i want KDE how can i change
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> kub1- there are package categories in the top right corner, though I agree that they aren't exactly great
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> !pm | abhilash
[03:02] <abhilash> how to change gdm to KDE v
[03:02] <dbc254> xsession unable to launch falling back to default session. Hitting "Okay" allows login to proceed and finish successfully. I just hit OK whenever I'm booting up, and all is well, but how can I avoid/fix this error?
[03:02] <abhilash> in instalation time i selected gdm how to change that now plz help me
[03:06] <abhilash> in instalation time i selected gdm how to change that now plz help me
[03:08] <abhilash> in instalation time i selected gdm how to change that now plz help me
[03:08] <DaskreeCH> !unr
[03:08] <DaskreeCH> !netbook
[03:08] <DaskreeCH> dumb bot
[03:09] <DaskreeCH> !usb
[03:11] <abhilash> how to change gdm login screen to kde
[03:11] <DaskreeCH> kub1: I think most of that is there
[03:11] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: ok
[03:11] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: Patience isn't a strong suit of yours is it?
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> Neither is reading, as far as I can tell
[03:12] <abhilash> how to change gdm login screen to KDM
[03:12] <abhilash> help me sir
[03:14] <xaelkaz> hey
[03:15] <baconomas> hola buenas noces
[03:15] <baconomas> noches
[03:16] <DaskreeCH> !es
[03:16] <xaelkaz_> hola o.o
[03:17] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: run sudo apt-get update-alternatives on the package or else just remove GDM or reinstall KDM either of these will ask which should be the new default in which case choose the one you want
[03:17] <DaskreeCH> !Info xdm
[03:21] <kub1> Where is the setting located to tell kde that the bar at the bottom of the screen should only show the applications that are active in the current window, not from all windows?
[03:22] <Sevis> In that bar.
[03:22] <Sevis> Right-click it, where there aren't any windows.
[03:23] <abhilash>  sudo apt-get update-alternatives is not working "alternativers " is an error kye word
[03:23] <kub1> Sevis: thx :)
[03:24] <DaskreeCH> kub1: or click the cashew at the end then right click where the windows are :)
[03:24] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: Bah no apt-get sorry brain went on autopilot
[03:27] <abhilash> bah is error command
[03:28] <Sevis> Great. My live boot CD is claiming Buffer I/O errors on device fd0.
[03:28] <Sevis> xD
[03:28] <Sevis> abhilash: you don't need to type the bah.
[03:29] <abhilash>  sudo apt-get update-alternatives
[03:29] <abhilash> am i ?
[03:29] <DaskreeCH> no apt-get
[03:30] <abhilash> then ?
[03:30] <Sevis> Anyone know what the default username is for the live boot?
[03:30] <Sevis> Sorry, password.
[03:32] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: try sudo dpkg-reconfig gdm
[03:32] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: username is ubuntu passwd is made up when the machine boots
[03:32] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: Thanks. Drat, I wish they'd use something premade :(
[03:33] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: just change it to whatever you want
[03:33] <rahmatsyah> hi all
[03:33] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: reconfigure
[03:33] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: It's dying too fast for that :(
[03:33] <Sevis> No terminal access, just the login screen.
[03:33] <Sevis> Ah well
[03:33] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: You logged out?
[03:34] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: No, wasn't allowed in.
[03:34] <Sevis> Probably too serious a bug, anyway.
[03:34] <Sevis> Well, anyway. Trying Live Boot USB now.
[03:34] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: somethign is wrong it should log you in automatically
[03:34] <DaskreeCH> Reboot and see if it does it again
[03:34] <DaskreeCH> if it does reboot and press F6 at the first menu
[03:35] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: I know something is wrong :) RAM is borked, it seems. Or mobo is deadz0r. Poor thing.
[03:35] <abhilash> ok thanks a lot sir thankx
[03:35] <Sevis> Live Boot USB threw me into ash.
[03:35] <abhilash> my id is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:35] <abhilash> by sir
[03:36] <DaskreeCH> abhilash: It worked ?
[03:37] <abhilash> Yes sir
[03:37] <Sevis> ... Does anyone have tetris for ash?
[03:40] <zuz_> !hi | Everyone
[03:41] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: To burn tetris? :)
[03:41] <Sevis> No... Ash, that runlevel 1 or so shelll :P
[03:42] <Sevis> The thing you get when everything fails but the system is nice enough to let you do at least something.
[03:42] <DaskreeCH> busybox?
[03:42] <Sevis> Indeed.
[03:43] <Sevis> My choice now is to play tetris on it, or to install with cat and finger.
[03:44] <Sevis> Ooooh, this thing has wget!
[03:48] <puff_> Est' ne spyashie?
[03:48] <Sevis> !ru | puff_
[03:48] <genii> !se
[03:49] <genii> Sevis: Note the .se extension of their hostmask :)
[03:49] <mizerydearia> When I first installed Kubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope yesterday, I configured one corner in KDE to rotate all desktups in a 3d shape.  It no longer does that.  Also, after restarting KDE environment, the system stalls, keyboard doesn't work, but mouse cursor still moves and some apps on screen become garbled.  Is there anyway I can diagnose and find out what is causing it and prevent it from happening?
[03:49] <Sevis> Genii: Sorry, was judging by the language :P
[03:49] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: That's not even close to Russian
[03:50] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: nvidia ?
[03:50] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: That's Russian in latin characters.
[03:50] <mizerydearia> Ah, it appears `compiz.real` is using 100% processing power
[03:50] <puff_> Yes, it was russian
[03:52] <mizerydearia> I believe I installed several types of compiz and other related programs.  What is the default that comes with Kubuntu/KDE so I can restore it?
[03:54] <kub1> puff_: Hi - are you _in _ russia, from, or? :)
[03:54] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: kwin --replace
[03:55] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: So it wasn't close to Cryllic? :)
[03:56] <puff_> kub1: I was born in russia, but i'm living in sweden
[03:56] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: Cryllic UTF, ASCII and KOIR work together rather poorly, not to mention the unwillingness to have to switch layouts, so some people write in translit. It's certainly what I'd do from a live boot.
[03:57] <puff_> Sevis:  u r right
[03:57] <DaskreeCH> so привет just doen't work ?
[03:57] <kub1> puff_: gotcha. I ask cause i put on a global voip free sw hw culture bimonthly meeting, berkeleytip (google fo it), & it's the start of year 2, & I'm thinking what countries to invite - it depends on how much time I can spare.
[03:58] <Sevis> It does... On my computer. Might not on others.
[03:59] <puff_> kub1: some ppl in russia sure can b intrstd
[03:59] <puff_> Sevis:  so r u frm russia too?
[03:59] <Sevis> Puff_: Yes.
[04:00] <puff_> ok. i see
[04:00] <kub1> puff_: can you please tell me a url to one each user group in sweden & russia that have the largest mailing list readership? thx :)
[04:01] <DaskreeCH> blocktree: Hi again :)
[04:01] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: \o/
[04:01] <Sevis> kub1: The most read thing I know in those two is the live journal of "Drugoi".
[04:01] <puff_> is any1 here use gprs modem on linux?
[04:01] <DaskreeCH> can you and puff_ tell me what's the deal with FOSS in Russia? For such a large country it's awfully quiet
[04:01] <mase_work> puff_: yes
[04:02] <mizerydearia> I am rebooting.  I'm going to pastebin a copy of `ps aux` when the system is running and stalled again, and Xorg will be using 100% cpu.  Is that information helpful in determining which processes I can terminate to make the desktop environment usable temporarily so that I can permanently fix it?
[04:02] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: Not likely but if X goes nuts i'll bet it's your drivers
[04:02] <DaskreeCH> plus I hate X >_<
[04:02] <puff_> kub1:  Facebook.com and vkontakte.ru. Best fo spam ;)
[04:03] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, The system was running fine just a few hours ago, and up to ~20 mins ago
[04:03] <DaskreeCH> I know vkontakte.ru :)
[04:03] <mizerydearia> So I'm not so sure it is a driver issue.
[04:03] <puff_> mase_work:  Do it work fine for u after the last update?
[04:03] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: well ok but if you find it triggering again it's likely to be due to some effect I'll warrant
[04:03] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: Piracy was (and is, really) at such high levels that the difference between free and non-free software was only visible  for those who wanted to see the code.
[04:04] <mase_work> puff_: haven't tried.
[04:04] <Sevis> DaskreeCH: Let's move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <Zuz|GoPats> do you guys know a good free video editing software i could download?  stuff like make it brigher/change colors etc...
[04:04] <DaskreeCH> Sevis: I know that
[04:04] <mizerydearia> http://pastebay.com/40148
[04:04] <Zuz|GoPats> for .mov movies i mean
[04:04] <kub1> puff_: er. more specifically, I was wondering about a Linux User Group LUG ;)
[04:05] <mizerydearia> `ps aux` http://pastebay.com/40149
[04:05] <puff_> smoke time...brb
[04:05] <puff_> kub1: vkontakte.ru. there is a linux group
[04:06] <Sevis> kub1: Livejournal is widely used in Russia.
[04:06] <kub1> Sevis: thx :)
[04:07] <DaskreeCH> Didn't a Russian company just buy all of LJ ?
[04:07] <Sevis> No idea about that.
[04:07] <mizerydearia> I can move the cursor around the desktop, which appears normal, but nothing happens as the cursor moves around.  It looks like a picture.
[04:08] <mizerydearia> Also, local keyboard doesn't work
[04:11] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: Yeah X did that to me all through hardy and ibex
[04:11] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: ATI btw?
[04:11] <mizerydearia> Is there documentation of what packages are included with Kubuntu 9.04?  I want to compare the defaults to what is currently installed.
[04:11] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, `lspci` http://pastebay.com/40148
[04:11] <angel23> clubing
[04:12] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: Umm check pyschocats.org
[04:12] <DaskreeCH> !purekde
[04:12] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, doesn't exist?
[04:12] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: Check the above URL
[04:13] <angel23> my kubuntu have no sound ?? anyone can helpp me??
[04:13] <DaskreeCH> !sound
[04:16] <mizerydearia> How can I list all packages that are installed?
[04:17] <Sevis> 'sudo apt-get remove -s *' would do something like that.
[04:17] <angel23> !wifi
[04:21] <ws_> how to change theme  in kubuntu ?
[04:22] <Sevis> !theme
[04:23] <ws_> thanks
[04:29] <dekoa> Hello
[04:29] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: sudo dpkg -l
[04:29] <DaskreeCH> !hi | dekoa
[04:29] <dekoa> hello
[04:29] <dekoa> Spanish?
[04:30] <dekoa> ubuntu-es?
[04:30] <dekoa> wath is?
[04:30] <DaskreeCH> !es
[04:30] <dekoa> tank you..
[04:30] <DaskreeCH> Gracias :)
[04:30] <dekoa> help...urli7 problems..
[04:30] <dekoa> iam new in linux...
[04:31] <dekoa> problems install sudo apt-get install emsene or amsn
[04:31] <mase_work> dekoa: what problem are you having ?
[04:31] <DaskreeCH> dekoa: What problems?
[04:32] <dekoa> not can install..
[04:33] <DaskreeCH> dekoa: join #kubuntu-es
[04:33] <mizerydearia> Yay!  Removing all traces of packages containing "compiz" seems to have fixed my issue.
[04:33] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: Whee
[04:33] <mizerydearia> but, I have another issue.
[04:34] <mizerydearia> When I click the menu, it doesn't appear as it should.  Instead I see a grid of dots... o_o
[04:34] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: what window manager are you using now?
[04:34] <mizerydearia> What package is for the  menu?  Maybe I will reinstall it
[04:34] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, KDE
[04:34] <DaskreeCH> You mean kwin?
[04:34] <mizerydearia> Kubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope default
[04:34] <mizerydearia> yep, kwin
[04:36] <mizerydearia> ah, switching to classic menu style and it appears fine
[04:36] <mizerydearia> Back to Kickoff menu style and it doesn't appear as it should
[04:37] <mizerydearia> After removing all traces of compiz files, I rebooted, so it is a fresh environment.
[04:37] <mizerydearia> Although, not entirely fresh, as it isn't working.  I imagine there is at least one process running that conflicts
[04:38] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: Probably just have some setting messed up for your kickoff
[04:39] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, hmm, what kind of settings?
[04:39] <DaskreeCH> wait which process do you think is conflicting?
[04:40] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, I'm not sure.  Let me get an update of `ps aux`
[04:41] <mizerydearia> `ps aux` http://pastebay.com/40154
[04:42] <mizerydearia> Maybe I am missing a process?
[04:43] <mizerydearia> Because even when I try to click anywhere in the grid of very spaced out pixels that seemingly represent the menu that pops out, clicking upon it causes it to disappear with no further action
[04:43] <mizerydearia> oh wait!  I found a pixel far at the top of the screen that reacted to a mouseover and when clicked started firefox
[04:44] <mizerydearia> It is the only pixels on the screen that I can click that launch anything, though...it's very strange
[04:44] <mizerydearia> Iirc, Firefox is the very first item (at top) in my favorites.
[04:45] <mizerydearia> Oh, Actually, I'm wrong.  I can start other programs, but I have to click on the exact pixels that are the grid of dots.  If I click in the spacious transparent areas, apparently it clicks the background/desktop and gets rid of the menu.
[04:53] <mizerydearia> How can I determine what wants to remove each of friendly-recovery startup-tasks system-services ubuntu-minimal upstart upstart-compat-sysv upstart-logd?
[04:54] <mizerydearia> I am reinstalling from http://wiki.vpslink.com/OS_Template_Information:_Ubuntu_9.04_(Xen) [the best reference I could find showing a list of packages included in default of Kubuntu
[04:54] <mizerydearia> But it doesn't seem to be the exact same list as it is for Xen specifically, where I'm using Kubuntu 9.04
[05:04] <DaskreeCH> mizerydearia: I don't knwo what friendly-recovery is
[05:04] <DaskreeCH> You want to keep upstart
[05:05] <mizerydearia> DaskreeCH, Do I need any compiz apps?  I removed htem all.  Maybe one of them was needed?
[05:05] <mizerydearia> I think I removed them all.  I'm still going throug a list of 1500+ apps that are installed
[05:05] <DaskreeCH> nope you don't even need a Window manager
[05:18] <lisa__> ????
[05:42] <Planetary> how would one use kwallet. i dont get it. why does it pop up every boot?
[05:54] <Serpardum> kwallet saves passwords and stuff for your browser, IM programs, etc..
[06:06] <comawhite> I have a question. where is .kde4 located?
[06:10] <mrh0057_> Are you looking for the hidden kde directory in you home folder
[06:13] <Planetary> serpardum, it doesnt seem useful to me...
[06:56] <hiddensoul> hi evrbdy
[06:56] <shadeslayer> heya
[07:37] <drgonzo> hello all
[07:39] <drgonzo> I just added the backports repo for jaunty to my sources list and did un upgrade of kubuntu. After reboot i used GDM to log into kde. It seemed like it was fine with the boot screen, but when KDE started the background was checkered with no image and nothing really opened. the kcontrol menu had no top bar and couldn't be more or scaled. I removed my ~/.kde*/ folders and now kde won't boot at all plasma just segfaults. and i get a black screen
[07:39] <drgonzo> any ideas?
[07:39] <drgonzo> gnome boots fine btw
[07:41] <drgonzo> maybe i should reinstall kubuntu?
[07:41] <eatThisAndDie> drgonzo: check your permissions, on home and ~/.kde
[07:42] <djdarkman> drgonzo: I recommend you to join #kde and aks the people there, my other sugesstion is to remove kde and reinstall it, there is no point to reinstalling everything
[07:42] <eatThisAndDie> did you remove ~/.kde/* or ~/.kde ?
[07:42] <drgonzo> i removed the folder ~/.kde and ~/.kde4
[07:44] <eatThisAndDie> drgonzo: why do you have a .kde4? you installed jaunty from the cds? or upgrade from a prev version?
[07:45] <drgonzo> upgrade
[07:45] <drgonzo> .kde4 is probably from ages back.
[07:45] <drgonzo> This system has been around long time..
[07:45] <drgonzo> in fact it could be from another distro
[07:45] <drgonzo> my home folder has been moved between distros
[07:45] <drgonzo> nevermind that folder :)
[07:46] <djdarkman> drgonzo: try the folowing
[07:46] <eatThisAndDie> drgonzo: you could try to aptitude reinstall kubunntu-desktop
[07:47] <djdarkman> create a new user
[07:47] <djdarkman> and log in to KDE with it
[07:47] <drgonzo> ok ill try both
[07:47] <djdarkman> if the same thing happens than it's not your config files and you should reinstall KDE
[07:48] <drgonzo> ok brb
[07:51] <Nampat> I hve a problem, if I have desktop effects enabled I canät watch te video on VLC
[07:51] <Nampat> videos are running really really slow then
[07:57] <eatThisAndDie> Nampat: it could be an xorg issue.
[07:57] <eatThisAndDie> or your graphic drivers, especially on intel
[07:58] <Nampat> do you have any idea, how to fix this?
[08:00] <eatThisAndDie> nampat, there's a good tutorial here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[08:00] <eatThisAndDie> solved my problems
[08:00] <eatThisAndDie> but you gotta confirm you're mobo and graphic cards first.
[08:00] <Nampat> ok, tnx, I'll check it out
[08:28] <dignan> Hi, are there any other distros geared towards the mentally handicapped other than kubuntu? I am building a computer for my sis.
[08:30] <dignan> Hello anyone here?
[08:30] <bro> hello
[08:31] <kaddi> dignan I have no clue, maybe ask in #ubuntu again, there are more people active over there right now
[08:31] <jimmykarily_> Hello
[08:31] <dignan> I just need a distro someone a bit slow could use
[08:31] <dignan> is kubuntu good for that?
[08:31] <jimmykarily_> I don't know a distro but you should take a look at linux accessibility how to
[08:31] <dignan> would kubuntu be a better choice than other distros for someone who's a bit thick in the head?
[08:32] <bro> u mean the o.s kubuntu?
[08:32] <dignan> yea
[08:32] <bro> no
[08:32] <dignan> why not?
[08:32] <bro> ubuntu
[08:32] <theadmin> dingan, kubuntu has the simpliest interface ever! and is simply the best.
[08:32] <dignan> so ubuntu is better for a mentally handicapped than kubuntu?
[08:33] <bro> ubuntu is much more accesible
[08:33] <dignan> ah ok
[08:33] <theadmin> You can install Kubuntu interface from Ubuntu and vice versa anyway
[08:33] <dignan> one big issue
[08:33] <dignan> is she doesn't understand how to use caps lock
[08:33] <dignan> i have shown her like 20 times
[08:33] <dignan> can this be like, taken off the computer with ubuntu?
[08:34] <kaddi> dignan you can map another function to the key, so that it doesn't work as capslock anymore (you can do the same in windows,btw)
[08:34] <bro> who likes mandriva???
[08:35] <jimmykarily_> I did
[08:35] <jimmykarily_> :-)
[08:35] <bro> i've tried mandriva
[08:35] <bro> but is to slow
[08:36] <bro> o btw how can i convert mp3 into amr?
[09:01] <Tricky> HI
[09:01] <Tricky> HOw zzz  U all
[09:06] <Tricky> Help
[09:11] <Mekzholan> Hi, I've got trouble with the power management under 9.04 (pervious versions were ok):
[09:11] <Mekzholan> In the normal profile I never want to get a blank (black) screen after a too long idle time. So I changes my power management settings though the icon in the tool bar. But the system doesn't care about it. Only after changing to another profile (and perhaps back again), the system cares, so the profiles are working - but only after beeing selected by hand... :( (Or it might be an initialization issue)
[09:11] <Mekzholan> Is this a known bug? Is there a fix or a workaround?
[09:11] <FloodBotK2> Mekzholan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <spinfusor> eeePC 1000he... seems like Kubuntu is running with low audio... anyway to increase volume levels "alsamixer" are set to max
[09:13] <arunkumar> any one know about grub editor?
[09:14] <kaddi> arunkumar you can edit the grub menu through systemsettings if that is what you want to do?
[09:15] <spinfusor> wish I did... everytime grub is messed up I start from scratch... Only thing I can do is change the order of OS if thats what youre looking to do
[09:21] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i change my xine backend to gstreamer in order to get the mini player widget to work
[09:27] <theadmin> What is the console program for controlling volume again?
[09:27] <shadeslayer> theadmin: alsamixer
[09:28] <theadmin> is it Kubuntu specific or is it also in other *buntu distros?
[09:31] <theadmin> ah well, whatever. It's not a part of KDE by any chance, so...
[09:32] <shadeslayer> what package is the gstreamer backend in?
[09:41] <latitude> hi
[09:41] <shadeslayer> hey
[09:42] <latitude> could I ask for help here?
[09:42] <latitude> oh, it says kubuntu support
[09:42] <latitude> so I'll just ask
[09:43] <latitude> I installed kubuntu 2 days ago, and I accidentally deleted my only open panel
[09:43] <latitude> is there a way to get it back?
[09:43] <shadeslayer> latitude: right click and add a panel then,then right click on the panel to add widgets
[09:44] <latitude> >_<, thanks
[10:04] <CedricWoSto> Hi everyone. It's nice to see other kate users :-)
[10:04] <CedricWoSto> I got a kate text display problem :
[10:04] <CedricWoSto> When I write in kate, the letters before, or after the line can be unshown. When saving, moving the cursor with the mouse, resizing, or selecting, some part of the text can disappear randomly anywhere in the text area. When selected, the text reappear.
[10:04] <CedricWoSto> Thanks for reading the problem, I hope somebody have some clues to solve that :) If you require some more infos, please ask! (I've already tried to reinstall it, with no success about resolving the problem :-/)
[10:04] <FloodBotK2> CedricWoSto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <CedricWoSto> I got a kate text display problem : When I write in kate, the letters before, or after the line can be unshown. When saving, moving the cursor with the mouse, resizing, or selecting, some part of the text can disappear randomly anywhere in the text area. When selected, the text reappear.
[10:06] <CedricWoSto> Thanks for reading the problem, I hope somebody have some clues to solve that :) If you require some more infos, please ask! (I've already tried to reinstall it, with no success about resolving the problem :-/) ////////////// Conf infos ----------- I have installed kubuntu 9.04 recently and this problems has been there from the start. Classic configuration (no tweeks). KDE 4.2.2, Kate 3.2.2
[10:06] <CedricWoSto> cheers :D
[10:07] <FloodBotK2> CedricWoSto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <CedricWoSto> Is there anyone who has used both wget and httrack ? What are the different features for command line use ?
[10:46] <shadeslayer> CedricWoSto: you could see the man pages
[11:36] <lorecaster> Hey all, I'm looking for a strong website creation tool for my existing online bluehost account... I've used Adobe Dreamweaver before, but I'm looking for a solid linux alternative. Ideas?
[11:44] <caldera> selam
[11:48] <lorecaster> pardon?
[11:48] <Mamarok> lorecaster: don't you use a CMS?
[11:48] <lorecaster> cms?
[11:48] <Mamarok> content management system
[11:48] <lorecaster> like a file manager? I don't have the time to build in plain-text
[11:48] <Mamarok> nobody makes websites the old way anymore
[11:49] <kaddi> lorecaster have a look here perhaps: http://www.osalt.com/dreamweaver#alts
[11:49] <Mamarok> and for the graphical side there is inkscape and gimp, and Quanta of course for html, php and css
[11:49] <lorecaster> i'm going with a www.wix.com account anyway, for a temporary means. between working full time, and college classes... i either wanted something fast-and-dirty, or something of a power house that was point-and-click for easy building.
[11:50] <lorecaster> neat!!
[11:50] <lorecaster> thanks so much!
[11:50] <lorecaster> this is exactly what i was after. :D:D:D
[11:52] <Mamarok> yep, Quanta+ is great, but still not ported to KDE 4 :(
[11:56] <apparle> plz suggest a IDE for AVR microcontroller development
[11:56] <apparle> how good is this http://www.cadmaniac.org/projectMain.php?projectName=kontrollerlab
[11:57] <apparle> how to install the link above
[11:57] <apparle> ?
[12:00] <kaddi> apparle the packages on that site are for releases that are for ubuntu releases, that are over 2 years old.  their release schedule also stops at 2007...
[12:01] <kaddi> apparle but if you really want to install download the file and click it or open a terminal, go to the location where you stored the downloaded file and enter dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[12:01] <Sevis> apparle - it might be safer to compile it from source, though, if you have the possibility.
[12:02] <suit> Is there any way to disable the hideous, giant popup that indicates if I'm on Desktop 1 or 2 in the middle of the screen upon switching desktops?
[12:02] <apparle> kaddi: but in release schedule says that they are porting to KDE4...............I am unsure whether the latest tarball fromt the site is KDE3 vs or KDE4 vs
[12:02] <apparle> can anyone tell
[12:04] <kaddi> apparle they say 0.9 will be kde4, 0.8 is kde3.. the tarball is 0.8, so it'll probably be kde3
[12:06] <apparle> I downloaded the latest tarball and its not similar to normal tarball
[12:06] <apparle> someone plz check and tell me how to install it
[12:06] <kamarul> guys
[12:06] <kamarul> whats the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[12:06] <kaddi> kamarul the displaymanager, kubuntu uses kde and ubuntu uses gnome
[12:07] <kaddi> apparle you downloaded the deb-file or the source?
[12:08] <kamarul> is there any other differences btween ?
[12:08] <kaddi> kamarul  no, I don't think so
[12:09] <kamarul> oic
[12:09] <Sevis> kamarul: Different set of pre-installed libs and apps.
[12:09] <kamarul> oic
[12:11] <apparle> kaddi: .tar.gz
[12:11] <kaddi> that is the source, you need to compile it
[12:12] <shadeslayer> kamarul: KDE can be compared to the windows environment and gnome is like OS X,so pick one depending on your comfort level
[12:13] <apparle> shadeslayer: KDE4.3 looks a lot similar to OS X
[12:13] <apparle> and nowhere near windows
[12:13] <apparle> guys can you suggest an IDE for embedded systems devlopment
[12:14] <shadeslayer> apparle: um...i would say win 7 looks like KDE 4.3
[12:14] <apparle> shadeslayer: oh..........I have not tried Win7
[12:14] <shadeslayer> anyways it is not a discussion for this channel :)
[12:15] <shadeslayer> apparle: neither have i,my opinion is based on screenshots
[12:15] <carpii_> apperle, have you tried kdevelop ?
[12:16] <apparle> carpii_: I thought it was for developing softwares and not for microcontrollers
[12:16] <carpii_> what features are you hoping to find in such an IDE?
[12:16] <carpii_> kdevelop is a general purpose ide, but I assumed youd just be writing in C or something
[12:17] <kaddi> apparle I just tried to compile that source and it will fail because of wrong Qt version, meaning it works on kde3 but not kde4
[12:17] <apparle> carpii_: gcc-avr support and avr-dude support
[12:17] <carpii_> ok i dont know much about those, sorry
[12:17] <apparle> kaddi: K3B is KDE3 and it runs fine on jaunty
[12:18] <carpii_> i imagine kdevelop could be configured to support them, but it might not be really integrated
[12:18] <apparle> carpii_: ok
[12:18] <kaddi> apparle it needs Qt 3.2 which is not installed when you use kde4. Which means it aborts when you try to compile
[12:18] <Guest64638> hello!
[12:19] <kaddi> apparle but feel free to check on your own... unpack the tar file, then go into the new folder and type ./configure it will break with an error
[12:20] <apparle> ok...........and will the DEB file work
[12:20] <kaddi> I don't know, it might
[12:20] <apparle> kaddi: ok thanks
[12:21] <apparle> anyone else knows any IDE for gcc-avr
[12:23] <apparle> ok bye guys
[12:29] <abhilash> hello sir where i get openGL
[12:31] <abhilash> hello sir where i get openGL
[12:31] <shadeslayer> !opengl
[12:32] <shadeslayer> abhilash: what do you mean by ' getting ' open gl
[12:32] <abhilash> download
[12:32] <abhilash> it is not in pkgmanager
[12:33] <shadeslayer> abhilash: uh,open gl is a rendering mode....
[12:34] <abhilash> it is a prograning editor also
[12:35] <shadeslayer> abhilash: oh... idk about that
[12:36] <abhilash> we can do the grapics program in openGL
[12:37] <kaddi> when I click on the wastebin widget I get "invalid address trash:/", how do i get the widget to open the trashbin?
[12:37] <solaiman> hi abhilash
[12:37] <abhilash> hai
[12:38] <kaddi> where is the stuff that I put into wastebin saved anyway? How can I access it with konsole?
[12:38] <solaiman> how can i integrate zchat with ruby on rails plz tell me abhilash
[12:38] <solaiman> sorry xchat
[12:39] <solaiman> abhilah r u there??
[12:40] <abhilash> yes but i don'tknow plz move the chat room
[12:41] <abhilash> what is an openGL where i will get debpkg
[12:47] <abhilash> what is computer janitor i
[12:47] <abhilash> what is computer janitor
[12:52] <kaddi> I think it is supposed to clean your PC, remove unused programs and similar things, but I have a healthy antipathy against such tools on any OS. I wouldn't use it
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:19] <thisismyname> jo wazzzup?
[14:23] <Fleck> how can i view, who is working with HDD, CPU usage is low but HDD is busy all the time and system is sooo slow :(
[14:25] <indystormjay> hey anyone know how to get sound working on kubuntu? I get no audio
[14:26] <kirilos> 1
[14:26] <kirilos> 2
[14:35] <lyhana8> hi, I just install kubuntu 9.04 and my touchpad isn't working despite it was on hardy
[14:36] <lyhana8> I heard that some config have moved from xorg to hal file, does anyone know how to enable my touchpad ?
[14:39] <indystormjay> hey anyone know how to get sound working on kubuntu? I get no audio
[14:41] <BluesKaj> indystormjay, did you update/upgrade or is it a new install?
[14:47] <indystormjay> it's a new install
[14:53] <BluesKaj> indystormjay, we have to do the obvious first , open a terminal and type alsamixer, unmute with M key any controls for outputs and inputs that you may be using and raise any levels to 70% or so with up and down arrow keys
[14:55] <indystormjay> ok yes they are al up
[14:55] <BluesKaj> no 'M' in the ctrls ?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> all 00?
[15:03] <indystormjay> what do you mean no m?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> look at the box at the bottom of each ctrl slider in alsamixer , kake sure there is no "M" in that box (it means mute) , there should be "00" in the box for it to pass a signal
[15:05] <BluesKaj> make sure
[15:08] <eegii> hi all
[15:09] <indystormjay> yes they are all up
[15:11] <BluesKaj> pcm is up ?
[15:12] <indystormjay> yup
[15:13] <BluesKaj> indystormjay, no sound ?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> indystormjay, what soundcard is installed , alsamixer should list it
[15:41] <mario___> salveeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:41] <mario___> c' èqual cuno?????
[16:09] <indystormjay> its the intel one on the motherboard.
[16:09] <iboug85> french people?
[16:09] <Pici> !fr
[16:36] <bobbob1016> Anyone here get gloobus and gloobus-preview working integrated into kde, or dolphin specifically?
[16:48] <marionbarry> Has anyone ever heard of chinanet and/or Telnet?....if so who are they?...and what do they do?
[16:49] <eviljussi01> marionbarry: thats kinda offtopic for this channel
[16:49] <eviljussi01> !ot
[17:02] <zoiss> hey guys. i got a problem with my kmix settings. when i open kmix on kubuntu startup there are the mixer settings as desired (alsacfg restore), but a few seconds later it switches some volumes (e.g. master volume = 0). is there anyone to tell me how i can fix that?
[17:32] <madmax> hiya all
[17:33] <Guest25932> k
[17:34] <Guest25932> how do i change the idle timeout in terminal mode in ubuntu?
[17:36] <jaYingling> hey i'm new to linux and I need to install drivers for my x850xt
[17:36] <jaYingling> yeah all me a newb
[18:11] <yamishi> hi all
[18:11] <yamishi> i need some commands to run when i turn on my PC
[18:12] <yamishi> and i tried with rc.local but it doesn't works
[18:13] <aruntomar> yamishi: u need to use the command update-rc.d
[18:14] <yamishi> so i need to type update-rc.d /etc/rc.local start?
[18:14] <yamishi> or what?
[18:15] <aruntomar> see the man pages for update-rc.d , i've not used it for system services but not tried it with custom commands or services
[18:16] <BluesKaj> update-rc.d but you may have to symlink the default runlevels
[18:16] <yamishi> umm ok
[18:16] <yamishi> umm
[18:16] <yamishi> how?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !ln
[18:18] <BluesKaj> !link
[18:19] <carpii_> yamishi, see if the rc scripts have installed a chkconfig command
[18:19] <carpii_> thats usually the easiest way
[18:19] <yamishi> umm ok
[19:11] <shadeslayer> hey,any idea why if we configure plasma to have one activity associated with one desktop,5 activities appear instead of 4 (on a PC with 4 virtual desktops)
[19:11] <shadeslayer> and then after 5 min of use you can delete the extra activity
[19:15] <Guest83695> hi
[19:15] <Guest83695> nickserv
[19:19] <brian_> i need some help im trying to make kustodian from source but i get a bunch of errors when i goto  run make
[19:22] <shadeslayer> brian_: could you pastebin them?
[19:22] <brian_> ya
[19:22] <shadeslayer> brian_: quickly please,i might be leaving any second
[19:23] <brian_> /home/brian/kustodian/windowtaskitem.cpp:117: error: variable or field ‘updateTask’ declared void
[19:23] <brian_> /home/brian/kustodian/windowtaskitem.cpp:117: error: ‘::TaskManager’ has not been declared
[19:23] <brian_> make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/kustodian_applet.dir/windowtaskitem.o] Error 1
[19:23] <brian_> make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/kustodian_applet.dir/all] Error 2
[19:23] <brian_> make: *** [all] Error 2
[19:23] <FloodBotK1> brian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <shadeslayer> brian_: not here
[19:23] <brian_> thats just a few  there are about 50 more
[19:23] <shadeslayer> brian_: pastebin the ouput to the link given by FloodBotK1
[19:24] <shadeslayer> brian_: use the pastebin plasmoid....its quicker that way
[19:25] <brian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/253306/
[19:25] <brian_> go here
[19:25] <shadeslayer> hold on
[19:26] <brian_> k
[19:27] <shadeslayer> brian_: you do have all the required dev packages right?
[19:27] <ljuwaidah> i know i know, this is gonna be one of those stupid questions
[19:27] <shadeslayer> ljuwaidah: ?
[19:27] <ljuwaidah> but i've been using windows 7 for 3 months and now i wanna go back to linux
[19:27] <ljuwaidah> and i can't decide between ubuntu and kubuntu
[19:28] <brian_> shadeslayer: yes
[19:28] <ljuwaidah> this question is stupid on so many levels, one of them is that it's in #kubuntu
[19:28] <ljuwaidah> but,unfortunately, there is no #(k)ubuntu
[19:28] <shadeslayer> brian_: building with cmake  -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix??
[19:28] <ljuwaidah> i used to use kde 3.5
[19:29] <ljuwaidah> then when 4 was released i shifted to gnome
[19:29] <brian_> ok so paist the whole thing you wrote?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> brian_: try asking in #kustodian,i cant think of anything,you might be missing some files though
[19:30] <ljuwaidah> and i think it was too soon to judge it in the 4.0 version
[19:30] <ljuwaidah> are there many improvements since 4.0?
[19:31] <ljuwaidah> and does kubuntu have that unified notification system that's available in ubuntu?
[19:31] <ljuwaidah> 'cause i really love that
[19:32] <Zxcvb> I  am trying to slow down a mouse, but this line doesn't work for some reason <match key="/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.hardware.product" contains="Targus">
[19:32] <shadeslayer> brian_: builds fine here
[19:33] <Zxcvb> if I use <match key="info.capabilities" contains="input.keys">, it works but for all mice not just the one I want
[19:37] <lattura> hi, regarding to kubuntu 10.4 alha 4: my laptop doesn't connect to a wireless network, even though I've configured the wep key
[19:37] <shadeslayer> ljuwaidah: 10.4?? :o
[19:37] <lattura> sorry 9.10
[19:37] <ljuwaidah> shadeslayer: not me
[19:37] <shadeslayer> oops
[19:38] <shadeslayer> lattura: please go to #ubuntu+1
[19:38] <mizerydearia> Is there a list of all packages included by default with Kubuntu 9.04?  I want to compare it to what is currently installed on my system so I can remove some components that I believe are conflicting and causing my system to crash/hang.
[19:39] <mizerydearia> For example, on startup, "The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)."  I want to determine if any applications relating to keyword 'plasma' came with Kubuntu 9.04 or if it was something I installed myself.  Is this possible to determine?
[19:41] <Dragnslcr> mizerydearia- plasma is part of KDE4
[19:46] <BluesKaj> mizerydearia, run  sudo dpkg --configure -a , then sudo updatedb
[19:46] <BluesKaj> sometimes an autoclean will help too
[19:47] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hey
[19:47] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer
[19:48] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hey can ask you something? do you have any idea on gstreamer?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> gstreamer isn't one of my fav streamer apps , even amarok does a better job , but i use VLC cuz it's stable
[19:49] <BluesKaj> what are you trying, shadeslayer
[19:49] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:49] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i need it to play videos on a plasmoid...miniplayer...but it cant detect .avi or .xvid
[19:49] <vbgunz> how do you enable dvorak on kubuntu? it seems there is no option in keyboard layout?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> plasmoid...miniplayer?
[19:50] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yep,on kde-look.org
[19:51] <BluesKaj> widget ?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: apparently it has a problem with xine
[19:51] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah
[19:51] <vbgunz> i got it
[19:51] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: no video via xine....nothing via gstreamer,although its supposed to be playing video 0.o
[19:52] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Mini+Player?content=95501
[19:52] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, I see a widget media player , is that it ?
[19:53] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i just posted a link :)
[19:53] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yep,theres a open button on the left for selecting a file
[19:53] <aruntomar> my ram usage is almost 97%, i've 4 Gig's of RAM, and the only application running is vim, this scenario normally happens when i keep using the system continuously for 10-15 days, has anyone faced the same scenario
[19:54] <shadeslayer> aruntomar: a leak!
[19:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is it possiblt to set up an account for SSH that is only permitted to do port forwarding, not run commands and stuff like that?
[19:55] <aruntomar> shadeslayer: how can find the leak?
[19:55] <shadeslayer> aruntomar: no idea :P
[19:57] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, xine that won't play .avi or xvid sounds kinda lame to me :)
[19:57] <shadeslayer> aruntomar: have a look at top in a terminal
[19:57] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: no no,its gstreamer that wont play .xvid or .avi
[19:58] <BluesKaj> gstreamer is strictly audio afaik
[19:58] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:59] <aruntomar> shadeslayer: i tried that, but mostly the system services are using less memory, high usage is 120 mb or 170 mb for firefox
[19:59] <shadeslayer> aruntomar: no idea then.... youll have to investigate more
[20:00] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: thanks for the info
[20:00] <shadeslayer> bye
[20:01] <brian_> whats the easy way to upgrade to kde 4.3
[20:02] <BluesKaj> depends on what you have now , brian_
[20:02] <brian_> i have 4.2.2
[20:07] <brian_> i got the kubuntu backports but how do i install 4.3 from them
[20:07] <BluesKaj> brian_, copy this to your sources.list (without the quotes) ' deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main ',  save the file , then in the terminal do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:08] <brian_> can i just add it in synaptic
[20:08] <brian_> nevermind
[20:08] <brian_> how do i pull up the source list again
[20:09] <BluesKaj> brian_, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:10] <BluesKaj> brian_, be sure to copy the whole url , from deb....to...main
[20:10] <BluesKaj> then ave the file
[20:11] <BluesKaj> save
[20:11] <brian_> ok thanks for all the help by the way its much apreciated
[20:11] <BluesKaj> now open the terminal and , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:13] <brian_> yey its installing
[20:14] <BluesKaj> glad to hear it , brian_  :)
[20:15] <BluesKaj> brian_, this is the tutorial, http://tips4linux.com/install-kde-43-in-ubuntu-jaunty/
[20:15] <BluesKaj> quite simple, really
[20:21] <brian_> BluesKaj: thanks
[20:27] <ner0x> Anyone familiar with kubuntu/ubuntu and linmodems?
[20:42] <mizerydearia> `apt-cache --installed` <-- what else do I add so as to list all packages that are installed?
[20:43] <brian_> im upgrading to kde 4.3 and i just got a error that says kdebase-workspace dev ubuntu jaunty ppa5 failed to install or upgrade
[20:46] <brian_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:46] <brian_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-dev_4%3a4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_i386.deb
[20:47] <brian_> i got that while upgrading to 4.3
[20:49] <d0tk0m> anyone know a fix for fullscreen flash crashing out? 9.04 amd64?
[20:49] <BluesKaj> brian_, sudo apt-get autoclean , then try again
[20:50] <brian_> ok
[20:51] <brian_>                  Depends: libkdecorations4 (= 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu2) but 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5 is installed
[20:51] <brian_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[20:52] <brian_> whats that mean
[20:52] <alex____> hi all
[20:54] <BluesKaj> ok brian_ , do  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:07] <Brian_> i need some help i just upgraded to 4.3 and now my desktop is all messed up i got a big checkard desktop and everything is eithor way to big or small
[21:08] <white_pelican> does anyone know where I can get help with ayttm?
[21:22] <anr78> should kubuntu be able to write to my macintosh hd even if I do not disable journaling on it?
[21:23] <timmy> hello everyone
[21:24] <timmy> how do I get into Single User Mode if grub is set not to show up?
[21:25] <carpii_> hold down shift as it boots maybe ?
[21:26] <timmy> shift key when it boots - okay thanks - will try it.
[21:33] <Brian_> ok i upgraded to 4.3 but now some icons on the kmenue are way to big and distorted  any ideas why
[21:38] <Brian_> anyone
[21:38] <Brian_> hello
[21:41] <Brian_> why are all my menus all messed up and huge
[21:42] <cor> incorrect settings, that's my guess
[21:50] <zuz__> sometimes my screen gets fuzzy in some parts of it
[21:51] <zuz__> like the title of this channel where says Official Kubuntu Support | FAQ: ....
[21:51] <zuz__> and right before i log on kubuntu
[21:52] <zuz__> is this normal?
[21:52] <cor> it happens occasionally
[21:52] <cor> in areas of the toolbar, kate document areas and such. refreshing clears it, usually
[21:53] <zuz__> ok as long as its not only me hehe
[21:55] <cor> kde is a work in progress ;o)
[21:55] <Zuz|GoPats> i love it tho
[21:55] <Zuz|GoPats> be back later
[22:05] <suit> I got an USB headset with inbuilt sound chip. When I connect it it shows up as it should and when I press 'Test' in the Sound system settings it plays a sound. However, even after pushing the priority of the device to #1 Flash Videos viewed in Firefox still forward the sound to my sound card. Is there a 'Make Default Device' option i'm missing?
[22:06] <maco> thats probably just flash being incredibly stupid, as usual
[22:07] <maco> i know how to change the routing with pulseaudio, but all the kubuntu devs seem to hate pulseaudio :(
[22:07] <maco> (partially because there are no kde tools for it...just gnome ones)
[22:09] <suit> I thought so too, then I tried VLC. The sound device setting in VLC is still set to 'Default' so somewhere information has to be stored regarding to what the default device is. If I don't change 'Default' to 'USB Audio Device' in VLC it sends the data to the speakers, too
[22:10] <suit> I vaguely remember gnome being more non-cli-ninja-friendly there
[22:10] <suit> As in: it got a big flashing SETDEFAULT button. :)
[22:12] <maco> hehe
[22:12] <cor> suit, use vlc
[22:12] <maco> cor: i think suit wants to use flash in the browser though...
[22:13] <cor> heh, no doubt
[22:13] <suit> I realize I can download the videos and then watch it in VLC but that's a really nasty workaround
[22:13] <cor> non, I meant pipe directly to vlc on load
[22:13] <suit> ah heh
[22:14] <cor> I have my iplayer stuff pick up in vlc, nice fullscreen, hotkeys, etc
[22:14] <cor> playlists, too
[22:15] <suit> How did you set that up?
[22:16] <cor> just tell firefox to use vlc. usually I mostly skip Firefox and just use vlc, load the http://playlist/address and then <click>
[22:37] <indystormjay> hey anyone know how to get sound working on kubuntu? I get no audio
[22:42] <annunakhi> Hello - I am having a power problem - who wants to try help me resolve it ?
[22:42] <annunakhi> I will be VERY very THankfull
[22:43] <cor> guys, try with actual questions, you will get better results.
[22:43] <annunakhi> Ok... Lets see....
[22:44] <annunakhi> Em./// My power is going on and Off - whenever my CPU usage reaches 90 % or above - How do I either fix it ? Ort assign it more.... Cuz I caint even play a game without my powere monitor sayin... Power Battery.... 3 sec later... Power AC.... Discharges battery very quick....
[22:45] <annunakhi> anyone?
[22:45] <annunakhi> cor ?
[22:46] <cor> disable the power monitor, it sounds annoying.
[22:47] <annunakhi> it is annoying - BUT what is WORTH - my battery is drained to 6 % atm....  Im kind of... Doomed to wait till battery charges.. I just have to figure outr how to stop it from doing that - OR - how to assign REAL memory to serve as RAM
[22:48] <darthtuvok> !language
[22:48] <annunakhi> ok. language. Watching. I am pretty angry with this atm
[22:48] <annunakhi> Cant anyone try to help me ?
[22:50] <annunakhi> it is annoying - BUT what is WORTH - my battery is drained to 6 % atm....  Im kind of... Doomed to wait till battery charges.. I just have to figure outr how to stop it from doing that - OR - how to assign REAL memory to serve as RAM
[22:50] <annunakhi> Em./// My power is going on and Off - whenever my CPU usage reaches 90 % or above - How do I either fix it ? Ort assign it more.... Cuz I caint even play a game without my powere monitor sayin... Power Battery.... 3 sec later... Power AC.... Discharges battery very quick....
[22:51] <annunakhi> I guess the question IS - how do I assign some virtual RAM ?
[22:52] <annunakhi> cor - any idea ?
[22:52] <cor> maybe you need a new battery
[22:52] <annunakhi> No - I had Vista prior to This - worked fine
[22:52] <cor> take the battery out and run it of DC only
[22:52] <cor> *off
[22:53] <annunakhi> Hm.  Oh no (!)
[23:04] <GinoMan_> FrChaz: that answers my question
[23:04] <GinoMan_> STUPID TOUCHPAD!!!!
[23:05] <GinoMan_> is there any way to make it so a certain key combination disables the trackpad?
[23:07] <cor> sure
[23:07] <cor> it's Linux, there's always a way
[23:12] <Zuz|GoPats> indystormjay: you still need help with sound?
[23:13] <Zuz|GoPats> !sound
[23:15] <Zuz|GoPats> !hi | Everyone
[23:15] <zizzfizzix> hey
[23:15] <zizzfizzix> gimme please link to Amarok 2.1.1 instructions, not 2.1
[23:18] <Sevis_> !amarok
[23:18] <Sevis> No problem, Ubottu.
[23:18] <Pliskin> oO
[23:24] <muhammed> hi
[23:26] <Sevis> G'day.
[23:26] <noobstian> hello, I just installed ubuntu jaunty for the first time on my compaq presario cq40 laptop, and i'm having some trouble, i'm only able to connect to thee wireless connection on gnome and theres no sound onthe computr, i just installed the kubuntu-desktop and now when i logged onto gnome theres an icon on the desktop that says home.desktop and i'm afraid to erase it
[23:26] <noobstian> im new to ubuntu
[23:31] <GinoMan_> which module controls the trackpad?
[23:31] <cor> there also an #ubuntu channel
[23:32] <cor> depends. my touchpad is a synaptics, so it's synaptics. controlled (by user) with synclient
[23:32] <GinoMan_> noobstian: don't erase it, it's not "vitally" important but it's worth keeping
[23:32] <GinoMan_> all it is is a kde shortcut to your home director
[23:32] <GinoMan_> directory*
[23:32] <noobstian> GinoMan_, how about the sound?
[23:32] <GinoMan_> what sound?
[23:32] <noobstian> there's no sound on my laptop
[23:33] <noobstian> since i wiped vista out and installed ubuntu
[23:33] <GinoMan_> .... sudo alsaconf
[23:33] <GinoMan_> see what it says
[23:33] <GinoMan_> it will ask for your password
[23:34] <noobstian> command not found
[23:34] <GinoMan_> ....
[23:34] <GinoMan_> why the hell did they have to switch to pulse audio
[23:34] <GinoMan_> ok
[23:34] <GinoMan_> ....
[23:34] <GinoMan_> sudo aptitude install screen
[23:36] <noobstian> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1529980
[23:36] <GinoMan_> that means it worked
[23:36] <GinoMan_> :)
[23:36] <GinoMan_> do you know how to change your password
[23:37] <noobstian> how do you mean?
[23:37] <noobstian> change my password?
[23:37] <GinoMan_> yes
[23:37] <noobstian> which password?
[23:38] <GinoMan_> what I'm gonna try to do (if I can get it working) is to essentially do remote desktop for you but with a terminal
[23:38] <GinoMan_> so you'll be able to see what I'm doing
[23:38] <noobstian> ok
[23:38] <GinoMan_> but I want you to set a temporary different password like foobar or something
[23:38] <GinoMan_> so that I don't know your real password
[23:38] <GinoMan_> when I log in
[23:38] <noobstian> how do i do that
[23:39] <GinoMan_> first set up ssh
[23:40] <noobstian> huh?
[23:40] <GinoMan_> how are you connected to the internet
[23:40] <GinoMan_> (I'll talk you through it
[23:40] <GinoMan_> )
[23:40] <noobstian> i am connected to the internet on gnome, kde wont let me connect to my wireless connection
[23:41] <noobstian> wireless network connection
[23:41] <GinoMan_> .... what service?
[23:41] <GinoMan_> comcast?
[23:41] <GinoMan_> verizon?
[23:41] <noobstian> oh no, i'm in costa rica
[23:41] <noobstian> it's a cable company named amnet
[23:41] <GinoMan_> ...
[23:41] <GinoMan_> ok
[23:41] <noobstian> i got a cisco linksys router
[23:41] <GinoMan_> router?
[23:41] <GinoMan_> ok
[23:41] <noobstian> yes
[23:41] <GinoMan_> do you know how to log in to the router?
[23:42] <noobstian> no, i mean i know how to connect to it
[23:42] <Zuz|GoPats> what router?
[23:42] <noobstian> i set it up quickly with vista on a cd
[23:42] <GinoMan_> ... does this number look familiar? <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:42] <noobstian> like the model?
[23:42] <GinoMan_> no
[23:42] <GinoMan_> it's an ip address
[23:43] <noobstian> what's that my ip add?
[23:43] <GinoMan_> you router isn't secure....
[23:43] <GinoMan_> that's the internal ip of the router
[23:43] <Zuz|GoPats> !sound
[23:43] <Zuz|GoPats> thats for your sound
[23:43] <noobstian> i'm currently on gnome
[23:43] <GinoMan_> every device on your network has an ip
[23:43] <noobstian> i can't log onto the internet on kde
[23:43] <noobstian> ok
[23:44] <Zuz|GoPats> why is that?
[23:44] <ubuntu> hola
[23:44] <GinoMan_> that's assigned by the router... such as <IP_ADDRESS> (router), <IP_ADDRESS> (first computer) etc
[23:44] <noobstian> i don't know thats one of the reasons why i came here for
[23:44] <noobstian> ok, so what am i suposed to do with the router?
[23:44] <GinoMan_> it's a linsys?
[23:44] <noobstian> yes
[23:45] <GinoMan_> what's the model number
[23:45] <noobstian> brb
[23:46] <noobstian> linksys by cisco n ultra range plus
[23:46] <noobstian> model
[23:46] <noobstian> WRT160N
[23:52] <GinoMan_> let me look it up
[23:53] <GinoMan_> ok... go to this site: http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:54] <GinoMan_> it's asking for a login and password... both are admin
[23:54] <GinoMan_> all lower case
[23:54] <noobstian> A username and password are being requested by http://<IP_ADDRESS>. The site says: "WRT160Nv2"
[23:54] <GinoMan_> yes
[23:54] <GinoMan_> you're litterally loging into your router
[23:54] <GinoMan_> :)
[23:54] <noobstian> what do i do?
[23:54] <GinoMan_> uesrname is admin
[23:54] <GinoMan_> password is admin
[23:55] <noobstian> i tried that
[23:55] <GinoMan_> on there it will tell you your external IP address.. it should be something that doesn't start with <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:55] <noobstian> it just repopped
[23:55] <GinoMan_> or rather "192.168...
[23:55] <noobstian> like i used admin and admin
[23:55] <noobstian> didnt work
[23:55] <GinoMan_> ya
[23:55] <GinoMan_> that should have worked
[23:56] <GinoMan_> unless your internet guy who set it up changed it so only he could administer it, which if you're renting the thing is perfectly legal
[23:56] <noobstian> i set it up
[23:56] <GinoMan_> .... what un and password did you set?
[23:56] <noobstian> the router at least
[23:57] <noobstian> hmmm
[23:57] <noobstian> i dont know...i only set it up so i had to enter a connection password
[23:57] <GinoMan_> try admin and that password
[23:58] <noobstian> Didnt work
[23:58] <GinoMan_> :(
[23:58] <GinoMan_> I can't screen in, if you can't set up ssh forwarding and tell me your ip
[23:58] <GinoMan_> :(
[23:59] <cor> gazing up, did I really spot someone giving out login details to their net-facing router?
[23:59] <noobstian> how can i figure it out?


[11:33] <qwebirc256310> anyone around to help w/ tech support after my trip to beta land?
[11:33] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: I can try :)
[11:34] <head_victim> What is broken?
[11:35] <qwebirc256310> wonderful basically I upgaded from 10.10 to natty and tried to set stuff up so that my root partition would install all the new goodness and my /home etc would remain untouched all seemed to work well except when I went to boot I find myself at the grub_rescue prompt with a "error: file not found" I suspect it relates to what is mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 so I am currently trying to follow the dire
[11:36] <qwebirc256310> using "METHOD 2". My question is, is the command supplied going to be correct for me or do I need to tell GRUB about /home being on a seperate partition
[11:36] <qwebirc256310> the command being "sudo grub-setup -d /media/XXXX/boot/grub /dev/sda"
[11:37] <head_victim> I'm not 100% but I would have thought grub would have only cared about /
[11:37] <sagaci> don't you have to do crazy chroot
[11:38] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: I was just told in #ubuntu that using grub-setup directly isn't recommended by the grub devs and I should follow these instructions http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[11:39] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: Odd given that the Ubuntu docs recommend it then.
[11:39] <head_victim> Mount your Ubuntu partition from Places menu. If you have multiple Ubuntu partitions (e.g., /boot, /home, /), you need to mount the /boot partition.
[11:40] <head_victim> I took that from your first link, seems to imply you only need to edit the /boot partition so it's the only one requiring modifying?
[11:40] <head_victim> sagaci: sound correct?
[11:41] <sagaci> i can't be consulted... always do clean install
[11:41] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: I've only setup a seperate partition for /home so I think /boot is on root itself
[11:41] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: that would be correct if you haven't specified a location
[11:41] <qwebirc256310> sagaci: this was -at least- an attempted clean install :P
[11:41] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: how set up is it? Retry the install?
[11:42] <sagaci> qwebirc256310: I always just backup and then reinstall over my ext4 / partition, no separate other fluff
[11:42] <head_victim> sagaci: I like a separate /home, I just specify this in the install
[11:42] <qwebirc256310> sagaci: that's what I told it to do
[11:43] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: well it downloaded updates etc and went through 100% given I did tell it to overwrite the root not sure how grub is stuffing up
[11:43] <sagaci> qwebirc256310: sounds lke you didn't install grub properly
[11:43] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: it's beta, anything's possible :/
[11:43] <sagaci> likely to install to /dev/sda
[11:44] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: first question, you weren't using wubi were you?
[11:44] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: definately not :)
[11:44] <qwebirc256310> sagaci: in my case it's sdb
[11:44] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: just checking, apparently that's broken in the beta
[11:45] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: no worries, saw that warning on  the iso download page
[11:46] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: nothing obvious on http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta#Known%20issues either
[11:47] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: I think it's just freaking out b/c somehow my old GRUB stuff stayed behind
[11:47] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: Just not sure whether a reinstall would rectify or not and it was a time consumer for me
[11:47] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: In terms of fixing it up using that guide I just dunno which way is the best :)
[11:48] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: if the #ubuntu people said use a particular method that's the first one I'd try
[11:48] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: I do note that somehow a home folder is present on the drive I designated as root. I am not sure if that's normal
[11:49] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: how did you observe that? I can check mine if you like
[11:50] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: just running of the livecd atm and mounted the drive
[11:50] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: * off
[11:50] <head_victim> Hmm gparted isn't showing any /home on my /
[11:52] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: thanks for checking that. I reckon I just made a stuff up somehow in telling grub where to place itself though.. I am not sure how :P
[11:52] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: I reckon I might just do a reinstall and see how it goes. seems "cleaner"
[11:52] <head_victim> It's sounding likely. You might be able to fix it but I'm not sure where your /home has gone
[11:53] <qwebirc256310> head_victim: the drive that should be my /home when everything works remains intact so that's good news
[11:53] <qwebirc256310> I'll do a reinstall and see how things go and report back later. Thanks guys
[11:53] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: ahh then it should be easy to reinstall then
[11:53] <head_victim> qwebirc256310: let us know how it goes :)
[12:19] <somethinginteres> head_victim and sagaci: reinstall worked. GNOME desided to crash but a reboot worked (tis beta after all) other than that everything's golden. Thanks for the help :)
[12:19] <head_victim> somethinginteres: glad we could help, so I assume you were qwebir.... ?
[12:44]  * joey168 is away: going out to catch some fresh air
[12:52] <somethinginteres> head_victim: yeah :)
[13:33] <head_victim> blahdeblah: I meant to ask before if you ever found out how many computers needed to have Ubuntu installed and set up on about the flood stuff. I have to head out for a while but feel free to ping me in here with the response or just shoot me an email.
[13:34] <blahdeblah> head_victim: No mate - still waiting for info.
[13:34] <head_victim> Ah ok cool. Just curious as to how successful their parts drive went.
[23:01] <head_victim> Not that anyone is awake, but YAY, I'm now approved as a Ubuntu Member.
[23:59] <bradm> head_victim: yay you!


[00:52] <rick_h> here's her blog post on it http://www.kscottz.com/solving-autostereograms-aka-magic-eyes/
[01:03] <mathomastech> http://www.hostgator.com/formmail.shtml
[04:01] <greg-g> GAH stupid useragent matching
[04:04] <rick_h> heh, UA lies!
[04:05] <rick_h> it's beyond ridiculous any more
[04:21] <greg-g> yes, I use iceweasel, no that doesn't mean you should give me a stupid error message
[04:21] <rick_h> http://www.nczonline.net/blog/2013/03/27/internet-explorer-11s-user-agent-string-what-does-it-mean/ :)
[12:58] <snap-l> Even better: use G+ with a privacy masking user agent
[12:58] <snap-l> It'll complain mightily that you don't have a recent browser
[13:25] <rick_h> gotta give it some +1 love http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1i2p69/shuttle_a_simple_ssh_shortcut_menu_for_os_x/
[13:29] <brousch> Ah, Detroit http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/scrappers-to-blame-for-no-water-flowing-from-the-fountain-in-hart-plaza
[13:30] <brousch> rick_h: But that's a GUI program
[13:30] <rick_h> brousch: it's a local guy at CHC
[13:30] <rick_h> and it's for the mac so wtf...
[13:30] <trevlar> rick_h: :)
[13:30] <brousch> ah, now I understand
[13:33] <snap-l> And he's in the channel. :)
[13:33] <snap-l> I'll leave it as an exercise to figure out who. :)
[13:35] <brousch> snap-l: You've gone back to Apple?!
[13:37] <snap-l> Uh, no.
[13:37] <brousch> See what happens when you leave it as an exercise
[13:38] <brousch> That's how rumors get started
[14:28] <snap-l> jrwren_: God, this reorg of MS looks like deck-chair musical chairs.
[15:11] <rick_h> ok, well didn't see that coming http://insights.ubuntu.com/news/press-releases/verizon-joins-ubuntu-carrier-advisory-group/
[15:19] <brousch> Ting or DIAF
[15:20] <mathomastech> rick_h: Very cool. Nice to see a local major play jump on board.
[15:26] <snap-l> brousch: That's my line
[15:26] <snap-l> Seriously, though, very cool to see Verizon pick this up
[15:26] <snap-l> Hopefully others will follow
[15:26] <snap-l> It turns it from "whatever" into "mildly interested"
[16:41] <snap-l> http://www.startupvitamins.com/products/startup-poster-this-is-a-bullshit-free-zone-sell-sell
[16:41] <snap-l> Apparently the motivational poster is alive and well
[16:44] <greg-g> ugh, that site annoys me
[16:44] <greg-g> the posters
[16:44] <snap-l> Yeah, it's a little too much "damn the torpedoes"
[16:46] <greg-g> yeah. I can only think of 5 hour energy drinks when I look at that site
[16:50] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuCI1dv20Y
[17:00] <rick_h> trevlar: https://twitter.com/JamesJelinek/status/355364535198158848 :)
[17:35] <trevlar> rick_h: thanks!
[17:43] <trevlar> although I have a "if ( var == false )" that I swear I didn't see https://github.com/fitztrev/shuttle/blob/master/apple-scripts/iterm2.applescript
[17:43] <trevlar> I don't know how that snuck in there
[17:43] <trevlar> ;)
[17:43] <trevlar> I do it better in the applescript for terminal.app https://github.com/fitztrev/shuttle/blob/master/apple-scripts/terminal.applescript
[20:17] <snap-l> Defcon Staff: Hey, Feds ... you're not welcome at DEFCON this year.
[20:17] <snap-l> Feds: Not a problem! We were planning on telecommuting anyway...
[20:17] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1i2hto/for_first_time_ever_feds_asked_to_sit_out_defcon/cb0g0c3