[06:24] <Zen> checked for apt-proxy, apt-mirror, and debcache and none of them exist in the deb repos I have
[06:24] <B_166-ER-X> recursive
[06:24] <Xenguy> SilentOutcast: if you have broadband, just d/l it -- it will arrive faster :-)
[06:24] <robotgeek> B_166-ER-X: chmod -R
[06:24] <B_166-ER-X> okay
[06:24] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[06:24] <robotgeek> B_166-ER-X: man chmod , while u are there :)
[06:24] <jah_raztah> what is gnubuntu?
[06:24] <SilentOutcast> i don't
[06:24] <ricebowl> B_166-ER-X - you can always use man
[06:24] <SilentOutcast> crappy dial up
[06:24] <knoppix> *crying* can someone help me resize a partition in qtparted
[06:24] <slashx1896> it says incorrect password, but the password i put on evoultion mail is the same as i put to log in to comcast.net , and it let me login to comcast.net
[06:24] <Xenguy> Zen: you checked debmirror?
[06:24] <SilentOutcast> :(
[06:25] <ricebowl> oh well, I'm off, just needed to know how to get Java
[06:25] <Xenguy> SilentOutcast: find a pal with DSL/Cable, and get hir to burn the first CD for you :-)
[06:25] <slashx1896> im forsure the pw is rite, but it keeps saying bad pw
[06:25] <homer> Best Buy's Bait and Switch: KOIN News is reporting that a Portland, Oregon store was only selling XBox 360 systems to customers who purchased an expensive bundle of extras, despite not being shown in the weekly flyer. An 11-year old gamer was denied purchase of the Xbox 360 because he only had enough money to purchase the system. It is also reported that those who purchased the bundle was not allowed to return it. An employee who KOIN named "Chris" le
[06:25] <davisbm> off of a fresh ubuntu install, my mouse speed is too high and changing the mouse accelleration in Gnome doesn't seem to change it
[06:26] <Xenguy> !ops homer is spamming the channel
[06:26] <ubotu> Xenguy: okay
[06:26] <robotgeek> homer: please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:26] <slashx1896> o, now it says
[06:26] <Zen> lemme clear off the install of Knoppix and install Ubuntu real quick
[06:26] <slashx1896> unable to connect to pop sever mail.comcast.net
[06:26] <Rev-Marc> any help for the error at login to Ubuntu "your $HOME/.dmrc file is incorrect and is being ignored" also says something about it should have 644 permisions?
[06:26] <knoppix> Zen, OMG YOU CANT RESIZE EXT3 PARTITIONS!? *crying*
[06:26] <Xenguy> ubotu: forget ops
[06:26] <ubotu> Xenguy: i forgot ops
[06:27] <Zen> knoppix wtf mates?
[06:27] <Grundlebug> can anybody tell me where ubuntu installs the kernel source, because it's not in my /usr/src directory
[06:27] <opnsrc> How do i change the default kernel Ubuntu boots with?
[06:27] <Rev-Marc> maybe delete the file and reboot to have it recreated?
[06:28] <slashx1896> why is it saying unable to connect to pop server mail.comcast.net,  when 'mail.comcast.net' is a pop3
[06:28] <cafuego> Grundlebug: it doesn't - by default - install the source. You'll need to fetch it.
[06:28] <sifi> Grundlebug, I think that you have to get the source yourself
[06:28] <bimberi> Xenguy: what was was wrong with !ops? (i think you meant forget homer)
[06:28] <cafuego> slashx1896: i can connect to it just fine.
[06:28] <Grundlebug> cafuego: thanks for the help on the kernel source before.  I installed it with apt-get and now I can't find where it was installed
[06:29] <robotgeek> Grundlebug: /usr/src/
[06:29] <Xenguy> bimberi: sorry if I deleted that by mistake
[06:29] <opnsrc> without having to press escape every time
[06:29] <cafuego> Grundlebug: The command  gave you was for the COMPILED kernel. The source is a different package. 'linux-source-2.6.12' probably.
[06:29] <slashx1896> cafuego: i have no clue what im doign wrong
[06:29] <dabaR> slashx1896: ok, that I can help you with...
[06:29] <robotgeek> Grundlebug: oops, i think you are asking the same thing
[06:29] <opnsrc> it seems to boot with the 686 smp kernel, I want it to boot with just the 686 kernel
[06:29] <Xenguy> bimberi: I wanted to invoke ops as they do in #debian, but it didn't work
[06:29] <dabaR> slashx1896: lets do this together, ok?
[06:29] <robotgeek> Grundlebug: dpkg -l <packagename> | less
[06:29] <slashx1896> dabaR: ok
[06:29] <Xenguy> bimberi: instead it seemed to reset the factoid
[06:29] <cafuego> opnsrc: Install just the 686 kernel and uninstall the smp one.
[06:29] <Rev-Marc> any help for the error at login to Ubuntu "your $HOME/.dmrc file is incorrect and is being ignored" also says something about it should have 644 permisions?
[06:30] <Xenguy> bimberi: can you reset to the original?
[06:30] <opnsrc> Isn't there a way I can have both and use one?
[06:30] <crimsun> you prefix with the '!' to invoke something.
[06:30] <cafuego> opnsrc: Sure, change he default in the boot loeader cfg file.
[06:30] <crimsun> telling the bot to forget a factoid, well, ...
[06:30] <dabaR> slashx1896: /j #dabar if you want.
[06:30] <Grundlebug> cafuego: thanks, I'll try again
[06:30] <opnsrc> what file is that?
[06:30] <bimberi> Xenguy: yep - from the logs :)
[06:30] <cafuego> opnsrc: depends on the boot loader.
[06:31] <Xenguy> crimsun: If someone was doing something Bad[TM] , how would I invoke the ops in this channel (is there a way) ?
[06:31] <homer> my bad dudes
[06:31] <homer> that wasn't spam
[06:31] <Xenguy> bimberi: yay :-)
[06:31] <homer> I was going to ask if you guys think that will get into slashdot
[06:31] <sifi> can't get my sound card to work with ubuntu 5.10 on my mini mac
[06:31] <opnsrc> I'm not sure
[06:31] <crimsun> Xenguy: there used to be a way til you erased it.
[06:31] <cafuego> opnsrc: Grub? lilo?
[06:31] <Xenguy> crimsun: my apologies, syntax here seems to differ from #debian
[06:32] <cafuego> sifi: no, you need kernel 2.6.14 or newer. You will need to compile it yourself.
[06:33] <cafuego> crimsun: Which factoid?
[06:33] <sifi> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:33] <Xenguy> cafuego: !ops
[06:33] <sifi> is it just not configured in my .config
[06:33] <Grundlebug> cafuego: thanks for the help.  I'm installing it now.
[06:34] <cafuego> sifi: Hmmm... 2.6.14 here, and it works.
[06:34] <cafuego> sifi: Want me to put my kernel .deb online for you?
[06:35] <sifi> cafuego, does it have support for firewire b/c I'm using a custom one that needs to beable to boot off firewire
[06:35] <synackuator> 2.6.14 ck doesn't do anything don't use the ck patch!!!
[06:35] <cafuego> sifi: As module, yes.
[06:35] <kraehe> is there an ubuntu for s/390 or z/arch ?
[06:35] <cafuego> sifi: So not bootable off firewire...
[06:36] <bimberi> Xenguy: done (in /msg) :)
[06:36] <B_166-ER-X> mplayer is no more in the repos ?? wha ?
[06:36] <cafuego> sifi: I have a better idea, I'll put my .config online for you.
[06:36] <sifi> ok
[06:36] <crimsun> B_166-ER-X: mplayer-$arch
[06:36] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: sure it is - search Synaptic for mplay
[06:36] <Xenguy> bimberi: thanks dude :-)
[06:36] <B_166-ER-X> i dont have it
[06:37] <cafuego> sifi: http://www.cafuego,net/stuff/config-2.6.14-macmini
[06:37] <B_166-ER-X> and all my repos are activated
[06:37] <Zen> assuming I get a local apt cacher, how do I force other machines to use it?  take out all other deb sources but it?
[06:37] <cafuego> sifi: Just change the cfg for firewire, compile and voila :-)
[06:37] <B_166-ER-X> there is 2 results, but no mplay, or mplayer
[06:37] <crimsun> B_166-ER-X: then you don't have all your repos enabled.
[06:37] <sifi> cafuego, thanks a lot
[06:37] <crimsun> !info mplayer-k7
[06:37] <saik0> What would be causing hotplug to crash (system locks) when a AGP card is plugged in and not when I use the onboard video
[06:37] <cafuego> sifi: no worries
[06:37] <ubotu> mplayer-k7: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[06:37] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: then you don't Universe or Multi
[06:37] <B_166-ER-X> doublechecked, i have them all enabled...but its a fresh install,  tell me, there are some missing eh ? :\
[06:37] <MasterObiWanK> hello, anyone nknows how can I enable an Integraded CAM of an ASUS w5 laptop ?
[06:38] <TheRaginAsian> modprobe -pray-for-built-in-camera-support-module ?
[06:39] <TheRaginAsian> ... maybe not
[06:39] <MasterObiWanK> jajjaj
[06:39] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: Universe & Multiverse aren't enabled by default
[06:39] <Madpilot> !tell B_166-ER-X about repos
[06:40] <TheRaginAsian> my feet are cold, logically I would wear socks but at this current time im extermely bored and lazy
[06:40] <nwlinkvxd> hi room
[06:40] <TheRaginAsian> nwlinkvxd: ellllooooo
[06:40] <DRAGON_Ultra> hi
[06:41] <La_PaRCa> TheRaginAsian, may I recommend, if you have one of our recent souped up CPUs, to put your feet closer to the heat sinkn?
[06:41] <cocox> hi im looking for some information about a domain doing whois... the domain name is like this "domain.edu.br" but i cant found information in internic or arin.. any suggest ????
[06:41] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a serious problem with a pci comp -> tv card
[06:41] <DRAGON_Ultra> like what
[06:41] <nwlinkvxd> the card is a Focus Enhancements Tview gold pci card
[06:42] <nwlinkvxd> i can supply the product website if needed
[06:42] <TheRaginAsian> La_PaRCa: I have a P4 2.4 512MB, heat is what it's NOT cranking out
[06:42] <nwlinkvxd> the thing has a Tiger100APC chip on it, and ubuntu is detecting it as an ISDN card
[06:42] <Rev-Marc> my .drmc file is incorrect how do I correct it?
[06:42] <nwlinkvxd> but it's supposed to be an S-video and RCA out card
[06:42] <DRAGON_Ultra> hmmm
[06:42] <DRAGON_Ultra> it is a pci card right
[06:43] <nwlinkvxd> yes
[06:43] <TheRaginAsian> I think I may go and write a testimonial
[06:43] <opnsrc> I think it's grub
[06:43] <southjkt-chat> hello, i'm new on linux and just trying to using ubuntu 5.10..
[06:43] <nwlinkvxd> welcome
[06:43] <davisbm> my mouse acceleration and sensitivity are both set all the way to Low, but it didn't really change anything and my mouse is still too fast.  how do i change it?
[06:43] <Zen> how do I force local machines to use a network comp w/ a deb package cacher
[06:43] <BenC> nwlinkvxd: what sort of problem are you having with the card?
[06:43] <giany911> can  any1 help me with wine and san andreas?
[06:43] <DRAGON_Ultra> ubuntu is very good
[06:43] <MasterObiWanK> How can I install a Webcam ?
[06:43] <cocox> hi im looking for some information about a domain doing whois... the domain name is like this "domain.edu.br" but i cant found information in internic or arin.. any suggest ????
[06:43] <TheRaginAsian> so nwlinkvxd... netware-link-virtual-device-driver?
[06:43] <nwlinkvxd> got it :D
[06:44] <opnsrc> Is there a kernel optimized for P4?
[06:44] <researchdoc> is there a way to get ubuntu to work with 802.11b pci card??
[06:44] <opnsrc> that I can download
[06:44] <nwlinkvxd> had horrible, horrible problems with windows
[06:44] <nwlinkvxd> hence, ubuntu
[06:44] <jeremywhiting> cocox, maybe it's not registered yet
[06:44] <fangorious> having some trouble with wpasupplicant. I ran the wpapassphrase to generate the block to put in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, edited /etc/default/wpasupplicant to identify the driver and the interface (and -B and -w), and ran 'sudo update-rc.d', no problems so far. But I don't ever seem to get and IP from DHCP for the wifi interface (ipw2200, eth0)
[06:44] <TheRaginAsian> haha, Novell give you hell as well?
[06:44] <Rev-Marc> my .drmc file is incorrect how do I correct it?
[06:44] <nwlinkvxd> researchdoc, google "ndiswrapper"
[06:44] <Rev-Marc> and what is the purpose of the .drmc file?
[06:45] <researchdoc> nwlink.. many thanks
[06:45] <nwlinkvxd> no problem.
[06:46] <Rev-Marc> I installed Gnucash but it didn't create an icon how do I create an icon on the desktop?
[06:46] <southjkt-chat> at first, after installation and kernel loading done (entering the xwindows).. my screen goes blank because of the high resolution display that my monitor couldn't handle. how can i access the setting to change resolution in recovery mode (command prompt)?
[06:47] <nwlinkvxd> you should be able to change your resolution by editing xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[06:47] <TheRaginAsian> Rev-Marc: going out on a limb here, but try right click on desktop, "create lanucher", put in "gnucash" for the application to launch, or "gksudo gnucash" if it needs to run as root
[06:47] <TheRaginAsian> use SMEG to add it to the menu or something
[06:47] <MasterObiWanK> How can I install a usb Webcam ?
[06:47] <TheRaginAsian> its the rather ghetto way to do it I suppose but ive never used GNUcash
[06:47] <Rev-Marc> thanks I tried that and it didn't run
[06:47] <Rev-Marc> :(
[06:47] <TheRaginAsian> oh really what happened?
[06:48] <sifi> cafuego, can you get java jdk 1.5 working with linux
[06:48] <perskyro> where can i get codecs to play wma files
[06:48] <jeremywhiting> hi all is there a way to get rhythmbox to play mp3 files? or do I need to convert my whole library to ogg files to use them in there?
[06:48] <southjkt-chat> thanks nwlinkvxd... in prompt as root or as user?
[06:48] <nwlinkvxd> get mplayer with the w32codecs
[06:48] <TheRaginAsian> perskyro: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[06:48] <bimberi> ubotu tell jeremywhiting about mp3
[06:48] <sev> hello
[06:49] <perskyro> thanks
[06:49] <Rev-Marc> it just didn't do anything, I tried clicking on the run in terminal and all that did was flash a terminal screen and then going away
[06:49] <TheRaginAsian> np
[06:49] <TheRaginAsian> jeremywhiting: use amarok LOL
[06:49] <TheRaginAsian> im just kidding
[06:50] <jeremywhiting> so mp3 being restricted format what do people use?  ogg usually ends up being a bit bigger than mp3, is there a format with close compression?
[06:50] <sevtastic> could someone assist me with installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu with a 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic kernel?
[06:50] <TheRaginAsian> im pretty sure you can apply a bunch of gstreamer plugins that will give MP3 playback
[06:50] <ubuntu> hello
[06:51] <dabaR> :D
[06:51] <cocox> jeremywhiting, no way this enterprise has his domain around 10 years ago... do you have any suggest ?
[06:51] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a severe problem with a video-out card, if anyone can help me.
[06:51] <southjkt-chat> and what kind of editor that available in ubuntu distribution?
[06:51] <ubuntu> i'm sorry
[06:51] <TheRaginAsian> jeremywhiting: to be honest, I use Xine libs so I really couldnt tell you
[06:52] <TheRaginAsian> try applying the ffmpeg gstreamer plugin
[06:52] <jeremywhiting> I usually just use beep-media-player, but I like the library idea in rhythmbox
[06:52] <madmax424> I'm still having issues mounting my ntfs hard drive so that other users besides root can read it, any ideas?
[06:52] <jeremywhiting> I'll try it
[06:53] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a severe problem with a video-out card, if anyone can help me.
[06:53] <bimberi> southjkt-chat: vi, nano, pico (text) gedit (gui) - many others can be installed
[06:53] <TheRaginAsian> well, Amarok has a bunch of KDE Deps but its my favorite player
[06:53] <B_166-ER-X> i know i'm not supposed to ask but...is there an alternative for us, since no more w32codecs ?
[06:53] <TheRaginAsian> could always try Muine
[06:53] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER-X
[06:53] <TheRaginAsian> there is still w32
[06:53] <ubuntu> what?
[06:53] <TheRaginAsian> http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[06:53] <TheRaginAsian> you just have to think about it in French :p
[06:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell B_166-ER-X about w32codecs
[06:54] <madmax424> Is there a way to run xmss or rythmbox from a terminal?
[06:54] <B_166-ER-X> being french speaking first, wont be a problem :P
[06:54] <southjkt-chat> thanks bimberi
[06:54] <jeremywhiting> nwlinkvxd: what kind? built into the video card? or separate
[06:54] <bimberi> southjkt-chat: np :)
[06:54] <ubuntu> chinese?
[06:54] <Grundlebug> Okay, I've installed the current kernel source for my kubuntu, 2.6.12, and made a sym link to /usr/src/linux, but when I try to compile my driver I get an error saying "kernel headers are installed but the kernel source tree is missing or incomplete." Anyone have any suggestions?
[06:55] <TheRaginAsian> ah, I apologize, how nieve of me to think that everyone in here is from US
[06:55] <B_166-ER-X> thre fr ubuntu is jsut not top notch , as in here ;)
[06:56] <johnnybe1ak> us anglophones are just smarter *ducks*
[06:56] <B_166-ER-X> one word
[06:56] <madmax424> whats the command to run xmms from a terminal?
[06:56] <B_166-ER-X> 'bush'
[06:56] <nwlinkvxd> another word
[06:56] <nwlinkvxd> 'sucks'
[06:56] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[06:56] <bimberi> B_166-ER-X: lol
[06:56] <B_166-ER-X> haha
[06:56] <logical_mark> Hey guys I want to setup an FTP server like I had with windows using BulletProof FTP Server, but I cannot find one with a GUI
[06:57] <HrdwrBoB> no
[06:57] <HrdwrBoB> you can't
[06:57] <johnnybe1ak> B_166-ER-X: I didn't say americans, just anglophones in general :)
[06:57] <TheRaginAsian> you guys dont like war... ok woah nvm im not even going to take it there
[06:57] <crimsun> that's far off-topic, and there's a channel for it.
[06:57] <B_166-ER-X> I'm not french... but from canada  ;)
[06:57] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a severe problem with a video-out card, if anyone can help me.
[06:57] <HrdwrBoB> madmax424: in a complete and total utter surprise, the command is 'xmms'
[06:57] <nwlinkvxd> lmao
[06:57] <B_166-ER-X> yeah, youre right crimsun, sorry
[06:57] <TheRaginAsian> crimsun: wheres that channel im in the mood lol
[06:58] <bimberi> HrdwrBoB: i was struggling to word an answer to that one :P
[06:58] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Jaded by tech support? ;-)
[06:58] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: -offtopic
[06:58] <TheRaginAsian> #liberalwar
[06:58] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[06:58] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: I've never done tech support, I've been a sysadmin all my life... so.. doubly so :)
[06:58] <HrdwrBoB> because I not only get stupid users I get stupid tech support
[06:58] <sevtastic> could someone assist me with installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu with a 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic kernel?
[06:58] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  you would think so, and it was the first thing I tried, but no, that doesnt work, and yes, before you say it, xmms IS installed on my system
[06:58] <HrdwrBoB> madmax424: then something else is wrong.
[06:59] <crimsun> sevtastic: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:59] <benkong2> !tell sevtastic nvidia
[06:59] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: <hehehe>
[06:59] <benkong2> !nvidia
[06:59] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:59] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  I just installed the binary ATI driver, it messed my wifi driver for some reason and created a duplicate virtual device for it
[07:00] <southjkt-chat> ummh, can ext3 partition accessed by windows (XP) with 3rd party software? if could, what is the name of it?
[07:00] <HrdwrBoB> that's.. bizarre
[07:00] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  That wouldnt have anything to do with it?
[07:00] <HrdwrBoB> no
[07:00] <HrdwrBoB> madmax424: did you JUST install xmms?
[07:00] <TheRaginAsian> sevtastic: you tried just straight up applying the package and just going "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[07:00] <HrdwrBoB> if so, start a new terminal
[07:00] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  No
[07:00] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a severe problem with a video-out card, if anyone can help me.
[07:00] <opnsrc> It's Grub
[07:00] <HrdwrBoB> what happens when you run sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:01] <sevtastic> i tried installing alll those things from synaptic and restarted gdm
[07:01] <sevtastic> but no success
[07:01] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  I am trying to do this because I want to play mp3's off my ntfs hard drive without actually copying them to my linux hd
[07:01] <TheRaginAsian> HrdwrBoB: you get xmms
[07:01] <sevtastic> i'll check out these links
[07:01] <sevtastic> thanks
[07:01] <TheRaginAsian> np
[07:01] <opnsrc> How do i change the default Kernel?
[07:01] <opnsrc> also, are there websites I can download alternative kernels?
[07:01] <opnsrc> like one for P4?
[07:01] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  I cant set permissions for the hd, so the only way I know to do it is to be logged on as root, or to sudo run one of the players from a terminal
[07:01] <TheRaginAsian> opensrc: there are some nice 686 kernels that I use instead of the stock 386
[07:02] <HrdwrBoB> TheRaginAsian: .... thank you for that astounding piece of information
[07:02] <opnsrc> where do you get them?
[07:02] <kraehe> *hm* is there any AMD64 kernel with SKAS3 or SKAS4 patch ?
[07:02] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a severe problem with a video-out card, if anyone can help me.
[07:02] <TheRaginAsian> HrdwrBoB: sorry, I wasent trying to be ass, just funny
[07:02] <HrdwrBoB> !ntfs
[07:02] <johnnybe1ak> anyscreen gnu screen experts (or just anyone who isnt' a noob like me) I want to have the screen divided vertically as well as horizontally how do I do it?
[07:03] <opnsrc> and what file do I edit to change the default kernel that loads with Grub?
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> madmax424: you can do it, give me a second
[07:03] <TheRaginAsian> opnsrc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:03] <opnsrc> thanks
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> ubotu: tell madmax424 about ntfs
[07:03] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  You dont understand, I can mount the drive.  Some guy gave me a command to add to my fstab that didnt work
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> there
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[07:03] <opnsrc> Sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> I do understand
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> it's a permissions error
[07:03] <madmax424> yeah
[07:03] <HrdwrBoB> you want to read it as your normal user
[07:04] <HrdwrBoB> ubotu just messaged you with some help
[07:04] <ubotu> HrdwrBoB: Wish i knew
[07:04] <madmax424> yeah, but the only way to do it is if I'm in root
[07:04] <TheRaginAsian> opnsrc: sorry, the fully command would be "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <opnsrc> thanks
[07:04] <opnsrc> Not your fault
[07:04] <TheRaginAsian> "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" no quotations
[07:04] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having a severe problem with a video-out card, if anyone can help me.
[07:05] <HrdwrBoB> nwlinkvxd: what is the problem
[07:05] <TheRaginAsian> or "Run as a Different User", select root, type "gedit" for the program and graphically navigate to the file
[07:05] <ubuntu> cs?
[07:05] <ubuntu> you zhong guo ren ma ?
[07:05] <swim> hey folks, anyone happen to have a pvr150 working? ive followed wiki's but all I seem to get with any tv program is black
[07:05] <steven_> ok how do i find libdvdcss for breezy amd64?
[07:05] <slashx1896> hey, whats the cd burning program called on ubuntu?
[07:06] <nwlinkvxd> there's built-in support for cd burning
[07:06] <vbgunz> slashx1896: burn:/// in nautilus
[07:06] <Locke> whats a good p2p client for linux?
[07:06] <nwlinkvxd> yeah
[07:06] <TheRaginAsian> steven_: im sure that unless you wannt attempt compiling it yourself youll have to just use the one they have made here: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[07:06] <drumline> don't do P2P.. .it's evil!
[07:06] <TheRaginAsian> lol, that's the third time ive given out that link
[07:06] <nwlinkvxd> Locke: use bittorrent
[07:06] <slashx1896> vbgunz: wat?
[07:06] <vbgunz> slashx1896: if you want more control you can try Gnomebaker
[07:06] <Locke> i do, but a lot of stuff i can't find on bittorrent
[07:06] <TheRaginAsian> Locke: bittorrent, amule, limewire
[07:06] <opnsrc> There is an option called savedefault
[07:06] <nwlinkvxd> www.seedler.org ?
[07:06] <opnsrc> But it's on more than one
[07:06] <Locke> ever heard of xmule?
[07:06] <opnsrc> How do I decide which one is the default?
[07:06] <johnnybe1ak> Locke: use gift, there is plugins for gnutella, fasttrack and openft (another smaller network)
[07:06] <cafuego> slashx1896: 'gcombust' I believe. Normally it's easier to just insert a blank cd, then drag fiels to it and tell it to burn :-)
[07:06] <TheRaginAsian> slashx1896: K3B is the only way to go
[07:06] <TheRaginAsian> Locke: yeah I like aMule better
[07:06] <slashx1896> lol everyone gave me different answers
[07:07] <johnnybe1ak> Locke: there is also a bunch of front ends for kde/gnome/cli
[07:07] <cafuego> TheRaginAsian: How about not giving useless advice?
[07:07] <vbgunz> slashx1896: in Nautilus, you can type burn:/// in the address line and that will take you to the burn area in nautilus
[07:07] <opnsrc> order?
[07:07] <pppoe_dude> hi
[07:07] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: im not trying to be unhelpful, I sometimes forget that people have other choices
[07:07] <TheRaginAsian> ok, let me rephrase
[07:07] <pppoe_dude> how can i remount say /home to ext2 (it is ext3 now)
[07:07] <TheRaginAsian> K3B is my favorite
[07:07] <opnsrc> yeah it has to be order
[07:07] <opnsrc> it's like a bat file
[07:08] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: unmount it, then tune2fs to remove the journal.
[07:08] <vbgunz> slashx1896: try burn:/// in nautilus... a Write to Disc button will come up once you're done dropping files in there...
[07:08] <slashx1896> whats nautilus
[07:08] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems getting ubuntu to detect my Tview PCI video-out card, if anyone can help
[07:08] <TheRaginAsian> the file manager
[07:08] <opnsrc> thanks
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> cafuego thanks... so like tune2fs /dev/hda3?
[07:08] <TheRaginAsian> open "Computer"... thats Nautilus
[07:08] <cafuego> slashx1896: nautilus is what's showing your icons and files.
[07:08] <ubuntu> kao
[07:08] <vbgunz> slashx1896: nautilus is your file browser > Applications > Accessories > File Browser
[07:08] <TheRaginAsian> you'll have to hit "CTRL+L" in order to bring up an address line to type burn:/// in
[07:08] <cafuego> pppoe_dude: tune2fs -XXX (where XXX is an option from the manpage) /dev/hda3
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> cafuego ok thanks
[07:08] <pppoe_dude> brb
[07:08] <slashx1896> kk
[07:08] <slashx1896> ty
[07:09] <TheRaginAsian> and, provided it works, thats the easiest way prolly
[07:09] <B_166-ER-X> !nvidia
[07:09] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:09] <southjkt-chat> can i edit configuration file on linux partition (ext3) from windows (XP)? since ext3 not listed as drive on explorer..
[07:09] <vbgunz> slashx1896: you can also try "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker" for a more in depth burning application...
[07:10] <jeremywhiting> slashx1896: if that doesn't work, my favorite gnome-based cd-burner is graveman since it's the one of 3 out there that I was actually able to get working
[07:10] <jeremywhiting> with my burner
[07:10] <nwlinkvxd> anyone know if there's a wrapper like ndiswrapper for video drivers?
[07:10] <madmax424> hrdwrBoB:  It didnt work, I still dont have permission to view the ntfs hd
[07:10] <TheRaginAsian> slashx1896: ah yes, welcome to the never-ending choice... gnomebaker, graveman, nautilus, k3b
[07:11] <TheRaginAsian> just work your way down the list, you are bound to find one that works
[07:11] <vbgunz> haha... Ubuntu/GNULinux... Choices, freedom... smell that :)
[07:11] <TheRaginAsian> or just install them all and have fun
[07:11] <jeremywhiting> gnomebaker kept using /tmp to store it's converted files and it was taking ages to do anything, graveman has a nice status thingy with a percentage done, etc
[07:11] <slashx1896> lol im fine with just drive:///
[07:11] <jeremywhiting> ok, ok
[07:11] <vbgunz> slashx1896: burn:///
[07:11] <TheRaginAsian> both of them upset me with having to convert my MP3 files before burning a music CD
[07:11] <vbgunz> slashx1896: :)
[07:11] <slashx1896> thats what i meant
[07:11] <slashx1896> :P
[07:12] <slashx1896> im burning a disc as we speak with burn:// :P
[07:12] <vbgunz> slashx1896: good luck!
[07:12] <TheRaginAsian> K3B is how it should be, where it is uncompressing while burning
[07:12] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems getting ubuntu to detect my Tview PCI video-out card, if anyone can help
[07:12] <madmax424> I still cant access the ntfs HD
[07:12] <B_166-ER-X> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , at the number 11, its telling me to install the 686 package... but what if everything else i have is 386 ??
[07:13] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER-X: either change completely over to 686 kernel or just continue to use 383-restricted
[07:13] <TheRaginAsian> *386
[07:13] <TheRaginAsian> 686 is better performance if you have a 686 machine. And its easy enough to apply
[07:13] <opnsrc> Is it possible to compile my own P4 optimized kernel?
[07:14] <B_166-ER-X> i dont even know the difference..what is a 386/686 ?
[07:14] <encompass> I am trying to get my rtl8180 wifi card to work in ubuntu, I had it working fine in debian but can't get it to work here... I think it is due to the driver... now the driver I found, but I don't know how to get it from the cvs repository.  can anyone help me?
[07:14] <nwlinkvxd> encompass: ndiswrapper
[07:14] <nwlinkvxd> google it
[07:14] <encompass> I did that, but it is not working
[07:14] <nwlinkvxd> i hate that
[07:14] <encompass> I googled, that is how I got it working in debian
[07:14] <nwlinkvxd> :)_
[07:15] <encompass> they have a linux driver that is open source, but I need to get the cvs version to let it work with this .12 kernal
[07:15] <encompass> can someone help me get that file
[07:15] <TheRaginAsian> what I normally do is install "linux-image-686", "linx-restricted-modules-686", and the latest 686 kernel, do a reboot, and if the 686 works I yank the 386 stuff
[07:15] <opnsrc> 386 is an older CPu
[07:15] <IcemanV9> anyone got a good luck with wine + pptviewer??? (i know about OOo impress, but it doesn't work)
[07:15] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, they are just classes of computer
[07:15] <opnsrc> 686 is like a P2-P4
[07:15] <B_166-ER-X> amd k7, 1ghz
[07:15] <opnsrc> I think it's also a Pentium
[07:16] <opnsrc> no, I think 586 = P1
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> well, 586 is P2 and P3, 686 is P4
[07:16] <B_166-ER-X> Amd here ..
[07:16] <B_166-ER-X> not helping :P
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> ohhh
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> what AMD?
[07:16] <B_166-ER-X> AMD-k7 1ghz
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> kewl, get the K7 packages then
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> they are optimised similar
[07:17] <nwlinkvxd> i'm having problems getting my video-out pci card to work
[07:17] <crimsun> 686 is P2 and above.
[07:17] <opnsrc> yeah
[07:17] <crimsun> 586 is Pentium and some K6s
[07:17] <B_166-ER-X> looks like i already havea 386 version installed though
[07:17] <opnsrc> Does anyone know an alternative kernel site for Ubuntu where I can get a P4 kernel?
[07:17] <opnsrc> P4 optimized Kernel?
[07:17] <ubuntu> oh mygod
[07:17] <crimsun> opnsrc: get a 686 one
[07:18] <opnsrc> k
[07:18] <opnsrc> thanks
[07:18] <B_166-ER-X> i want some serious help here...i just did a reinstall, if i am to mess with the kernel... i want to be sure of what i'm doing..please.
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> ahh, Crimsun is right
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER-X
[07:19] <encompass> the driver I used with the 2.6.9 kernel does not work with the ubuntu kernel
[07:20] <cpbl> I have just received my Ubuntu Live (5.10) CD's. The Live O/S does not find my harddrive. It's a laptop, but not new, nothing exotic. Other distros find it live. How would a newbie mount the drive? Thanks for any ideas. I am new to IRC.
[07:20] <TheRaginAsian> apply the packages "linux-image-k7" and "linux-restricted-modules-k7"
[07:20] <encompass> sorry about that
[07:20] <TheRaginAsian> then, reboot, and try to boot using the k7 kernel, it should add itself as a menu option
[07:21] <encompass> but like I was saying, I have had the driver working before I know exaclty where to get the driver for it all to work again... but
[07:21] <B_166-ER-X> its a fresh install, and the 386 package are installed, 386 linux image, and so on...so..why ?
[07:21] <TheRaginAsian> well, the packages that are class specific are supposed to help with performance
[07:21] <encompass> I don't know how to download the flipping cvs, I have tried all the howtos and it gives me just errors
[07:21] <TheRaginAsian> if your not that concerned, dont worry about it
[07:21] <TheRaginAsian> but I generally do experience better performance when I run the 686 kernel over the 386 one
[07:22] <B_166-ER-X> well, my pc is kinda slow..so best performance would be nice, but i'm really freakin of just bust all up again
[07:22] <B_166-ER-X> :P
[07:22] <TheRaginAsian> for you though you would want K7 like ive been telling you
[07:22] <TheRaginAsian> add kernel images wont break it
[07:22] <TheRaginAsian> *adding
[07:22] <TheRaginAsian> however, removing kernel images might
[07:22] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[07:22] <johnnybezak> does anyone know a way to split a screen vertically instead of horizontally with gnu's screen?
[07:22] <nwlinkvxd> anyone use a tview pci scan converter card on linux?
[07:23] <camus> anybody got an idea why I got no sound on a soundblaster live! (on wav/ogg/anything)
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> I normally get rid of my 386 kernels after I test and make sure the 686 ones work, but theres no reason why you couldn't just leave your 386 kernel and just not use them
[07:23] <steven_> ok i tried the link that you posted TheRaginAsian and it cant find the package list for my architecture
[07:23] <B_166-ER-X> so what beyond Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on AMD K7., do i have to install ?
[07:23] <encompass> nwlinkvxd: google that one man
[07:24] <fangorious> anyone good with troubleshooting wpasupplicant?
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> steven_: you should be fine using the default packages, you shouldnt need amd64 optimisted libdvdcss
[07:24] <encompass> I think I have told you that before
[07:24] <crimsun> fangorious: what sort?
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> unless you want to compile it yourself...
[07:24] <nwlinkvxd> encompass: i have been for hours
[07:24] <encompass> then is sounds like a no go
[07:24] <nwlinkvxd> i can't find anything useful
[07:24] <ubuntu> oh mygod
[07:24] <DJ-AS> hola
[07:25] <DJ-AS> necesito ayuda para instalar un modem :(
[07:25] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER-X: well, if you apply those two packages I told you, they always depend on the latest of the K7 Kernel and Modules, so they will update when updates come around
[07:25] <fangorious> crimsun: I have it installed,a basic configuration for WPA-PSK, but I can't seem to figure out how to make it connect
[07:25] <deFrysk> !es
[07:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:25] <TheRaginAsian> I would do that
[07:25] <daaku> anyone know how i can tell if my amd64 has the venice core?
[07:25] <johnnybezak> DJ-AS #ubuntu-es
[07:25] <TheRaginAsian> makes life easy
[07:25] <crimsun> fangorious: Breezy?
[07:25] <fangorious> crimsun: yeah
[07:25] <crimsun> fangorious: sanitise your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and paste it onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> so, Linux image, and linux restricted modules
[07:25] <johnnybezak> anyone know a way to change the font in tty?
[07:25] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, for K7
[07:25] <crimsun> fangorious: paste your /etc/default/wpasupplicant as well
[07:26] <TheRaginAsian> then, you should be able to reboot, grub should add entries for the new kernel, try booting to that
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> okay
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> trying
[07:26] <daaku> johnnybezak: one way is passing vga=xxx to the kernel
[07:26] <johnnybezak> daaku: what does that do?
[07:26] <johnnybezak> is there anyway to turn off the join/quit messages in freenode?
[07:27] <TheRaginAsian> should work out just fine... you'll have two kernels to boot to after that... I'd use the K7 for a couple weeks and if you find that you dont need the 386 kernels any more you can remove them
[07:27] <B_166-ER-X> i have this one too...but i dont understant what it is , just ' Linux kernel image on AMD K7.'
[07:27] <B_166-ER-X> plus Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on AMD K7.
[07:27] <TheRaginAsian> are you using Synaptic?
[07:27] <daaku> johnnybezak: sets the video mode for the framebuffer
[07:28] <nwlinkvxd> is there such a thing as a windows driver wrapper for non-wireless devices?
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> yes
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> in synaptic
[07:28] <johnnybezak> daaku: why do I wnat to do that?
[07:28] <Toma-> nwlinkvxd: you generally dont need one
[07:28] <TheRaginAsian> the exact package names that you should apply are: "linux-image-k7" and "linux-restricted-modules-k7"
[07:29] <deFrysk> linux-7
[07:29] <TheRaginAsian> you should be able to copy and paste what I type right into a search on synaptic and get what you need
[07:29] <deFrysk> linux-k7
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> so . no linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7
[07:29] <fangorious> crimsun: pasted
[07:29] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell nwlinkvxd about ndiswrapper
[07:29] <daaku> my bad, you wanted to change the font, this will change the resolution
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> ah
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> its okay :)
[07:29] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER-X: by applying the generic "linux-image-k7" package it will apply the latest kernel
[07:29] <Dasnipa`> is there any handy util to connect to a pocketpc PDA?
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> yeah
[07:29] <B_166-ER-X> saw this
[07:30] <B_166-ER-X> sorry :)
[07:30] <TheRaginAsian> so that way, anytime there is an update, there ya go, your all set
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> specifically, a dell axim x50
[07:30] <nwlinkvxd> robotgeek, that's not my problem
[07:30] <TheRaginAsian> hey np, took me awhile to figure that all out when I first started using Ubuntu
[07:30] <nwlinkvxd> i'm trying to get a video card to work right
[07:30] <nwlinkvxd> not wireless
[07:30] <nwlinkvxd> but thanks
[07:30] <daaku> johnnybezak: i assumed you wanted to make the fonts smaller, or the resolution higher
[07:30] <Toma-> nwlinkvxd: what card?
[07:30] <crimsun> fangorious: are you using WPA or WPA2?
[07:30] <fangorious> nwlinkvxd: I believe there is an NTFS driver wrapper, similar to ndiswrapper
[07:31] <drumline> wpa2 support in kubuntu?
[07:31] <fangorious> crimsun: the AP should support both
[07:31] <crimsun> drumline: wpa2 isn't really decently supported until wpasupplicant 0.4.7, which is in Dapper
[07:31] <robotgeek> nwlinkvxd: sorry, i saw *wireless and overreacted!
[07:31] <crimsun> fangorious: but which are you using?
[07:32] <fangorious> crimsun: I have both turned on at the AP, I don't know which wpasupplicant is 'set' for, just the contents of the two config files
[07:33] <drumline> damned installer halted on 48% of the base system...
[07:33] <fangorious> crimsun: I see this for my AP when I run 'sudo wpa_cli scan_results': "[WPA-PSK-TKIP+CCMP] [WPA2-PSK-TKIP+CCMP] "
[07:33] <crimsun> fangorious: if you're using breezy, you must use WPA with TKIP
[07:33] <crimsun> fangorious: no way around that.
[07:33] <crimsun> fangorious: not AES, not WPA2.
[07:34] <paueas> how can i list the channels on a server?
[07:34] <fangorious> crimsun: doesn't the output of scan_results confimr that WPA with TKIP is enabled on my AP?
[07:34] <crimsun> fangorious: furthermore, you should use wpa_passphrase to generate the hex string from your ascii psk and use that in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:34] <crimsun> fangorious: wpasupplicant does not work correctly with mixed aes+tkip
[07:34] <MickMcMack> Is installing the nvidia drivers on Ubuntu the same process as for Debian, just using sudo?
[07:34] <steven_> TheRaginAsian, dpkg is giving me the following message:
[07:34] <fangorious> crimsun: I had that at first, but it wasn't working, so I tried switching to the ASCII passphrase
[07:34] <crimsun> fangorious: you _must_ use tkip
[07:34] <steven_> dpkg: error processing libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1plf3_i386.deb (--install):
[07:34] <steven_>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[07:34] <fangorious> crimsun: ah, I'll try changing that, then
[07:34] <Toma-> MickMcMack: sudo and apt-get
[07:34] <TheRaginAsian> ohhh strange...
[07:35] <steven_> yeah
[07:35] <TheRaginAsian> so are you using an all amd64 system?
[07:35] <MickMcMack> Toma-: Are the latest nvidia drivers in the apt repos (My card complains with anything but).
[07:35] <nwlinkvxd> anyone know anything about video out (scan converter) cards?
[07:35] <TheRaginAsian> cause, you should be able to run non-64 specific packages
[07:35] <steven_> i am running a 3800+ X2
[07:35] <Toma-> MickMcMack: ill check
[07:35] <Toma-> !info nvidia-glx
[07:35] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10036 kB
[07:35] <ubuntu> tmd
[07:35] <steven_> and the 64bit ubuntu
[07:36] <Toma-> there u go
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> you could try forcing it, it may just be a simple arch check
[07:36] <MickMcMack> Toma-: thanks muchly. :)
[07:36] <Toma-> np ;)
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> anyone else in here with amd64 ubuntu?
[07:36] <steven_> yep, that worked, thanks!
[07:36] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian: I just installed it. \o/
[07:36] <TheRaginAsian> lol, are you able to use packages that are 386?
[07:37] <B_166-ER-X> !nvidia
[07:37] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:37] <B_166-ER-X> seems like it worked, Theragingasian
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> kewl
[07:37] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian: I don't know yet. :)
[07:37] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> well, steven_, can you play DVD's?
[07:37] <TheRaginAsian> np
[07:37] <steven_> nope
[07:38] <TheRaginAsian> what are you using?
[07:38] <steven_> it installed but it wont play in totem
[07:38] <TheRaginAsian> are you using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer
[07:38] <steven_> xine
[07:38] <robotgeek> what's a good cdripping app on linux?
[07:38] <MickMcMack> Scandalous, the base-system doesn't come with Lynx. =o
[07:38] <TheRaginAsian> hmm... and you applied libdvdcss2?
[07:38] <jason0_> Trying to install apani vpn client, I can get it to compile (with some modifying of CC enviorment variables) but when I execute insmod I get an error complaining that its an invalid format. dmesg says: version maigc 2.6.12-9-i386 gcc-4.0 should be 2.6.12-9-386 gcc-3.4
[07:38] <Tomcat_> robotgeek: I use Sound Juicer, works well enough.
[07:39] <steven_> yeah as far as i can tell
[07:39] <jason0_> any ideas?
[07:39] <crimsun> jason0_: you need to install gcc-3.4
[07:39] <robotgeek> Tomcat_: do i have to install it? or does it come by default?
[07:39] <fangorious> crimsun: ok. I set the AP to be only WPA w\ TKIP, confirmed with 'wpa_cli scan[_result] ', changed the wpa_supplicant.conf to use the hex psk, and restarted wpasupplicant
[07:39] <crimsun> the kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4 in Breezy, not gcc-4.0
[07:39] <Tomcat_> robotgeek: Comes by default. It's a bit slow on some machines though.
[07:39] <TheRaginAsian> do you get any sort of error steven_
[07:39] <fangorious> crimsun: so now what, ifup eth0?
[07:39] <crimsun> fangorious: are you using a linksys AP?
[07:39] <Toma-> jason0_: when you compile it, run export CC=gcc-4.0 first
[07:39] <Toma-> or 3.4
[07:40] <Toma-> i forget :(
[07:40] <Davethewave> anyone know the answer to the ndiswrapper causing system to be laggy problem? :) I've tried the ndiswrapper channel but they don't think I've read the wiki and won't help me
[07:40] <fangorious> crimsun: wrt54g with openwrt whiterussian rc4 firmware
[07:40] <steven_> yep: The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[07:40] <crimsun> fangorious: ah, I use linksys's standard 4.20.7
[07:40] <Tomcat_> Davethewave: Then tell them why the contens of the wiki doesn't help you. :)
[07:40] <TheRaginAsian> hm, can you give me an output of /etc/fstab
[07:41] <crimsun> fangorious: you should ifup --force eth0
[07:41] <TheRaginAsian> er sorry "sudo cat /etc/fstab"
[07:41] <crimsun> fangorious: make sure your psk= directive is not enclosed by "s
[07:41] <jason0_> Toma- didn't work.
[07:41] <pppoe_dude> hi again, 2 q's. does removing a journal then putting it back affect performance?
[07:41] <jason0_> Can I install gcc-3.4 using synaptic?
[07:41] <nalioth> jason0_: you certainly can
[07:41] <Toma-> jason0_: what about eport CC=gcc-3.4
[07:42] <crimsun> pppoe_dude: no, but it's fairly useless.
[07:42] <Toma-> err export
[07:42] <TheRaginAsian> steven_: send me a PM of the output if you can
[07:42] <pppoe_dude> 2. i have constant/intermittant hdd activity every 4 seconds. I think it's because of the journalling, even though after converting to ext 2 it was still there
[07:42] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: have u got any cron jobs running?
[07:42] <Davethewave> Tomcat_ I follwed the installation instructions, for ndiswrapper 1.5 (since ubuntu has 1.1) it installed fine after I had to enable kernel headers. Then I follow the rest of instructions (install driver with the -i switch) modprobe etc... it gets up and running but system is sluggish
[07:42] <fangorious> crimsun: didn't work, "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[07:42] <pppoe_dude> Toma-, no
[07:42] <pppoe_dude> however i heard stuff about dirty buffers or such
[07:42] <towsheba> Hell0
[07:42] <crimsun> fangorious: your ipw interface is in fact eth0?
[07:43] <pppoe_dude> like a commit interval of some sort
[07:43] <steven_> #
[07:43] <steven_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:43] <steven_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[07:43] <steven_> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:43] <steven_> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:43] <steven_> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:43] <fangorious> yep, it works using WEP
[07:43] <steven_> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[07:43] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: anything out of the ordinary in top?
[07:43] <Davethewave> Tomcat_ there is nothing (at least that I saw) on the wiki that tells why it is sluggish
[07:43] <pppoe_dude> Toma-, no
[07:43] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems with a Focus Enhancements Tview Gold PCI card
[07:43] <Tomcat_> Davethewave: Well, sorry, I have no idea. Never used ndiswrapper, I don't even know how to install it.
[07:43] <crimsun> fangorious: err, you removed the WEP stuff from /etc/network/interfaces, right?
[07:43] <TheRaginAsian> so is /dev/hda your DVD player?
[07:43] <steven_> yes
[07:43] <TheRaginAsian> ok, do this right quick
[07:43] <Davethewave> Tomcat_ lol.. ok thanks :P
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> well, try I mean
[07:44] <steven_> lol
[07:44] <pppoe_dude> Xorg and multiload applet are the top most
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[07:44] <crimsun> fangorious: first check if your ipw has associated successfully with the AP
[07:44] <fangorious> crimsun: yeah, "iface eth0 inet dhcp" is the only reference to eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:44] <jason0_> Still getting the magic number error
[07:44] <nwlinkvxd> I'm having problems with a Focus Enhancements Tview Gold PCI card
[07:44] <steven_> k
[07:44] <jason0_> When I search for gcc-3.4 in synaptic it fails to find any results.
[07:44] <TheRaginAsian> an then on the line that says "udf,iso9660", change that to "auto"
[07:44] <jason0_> Do I have to use a deprecated repo or something?
[07:45] <crimsun> fangorious: kill wpasupplicant and run it from the command line using the options in /etc/default/wpasupplicant, but append -dd
[07:45] <fangorious> crimsun: iwconfig says unassociated
[07:45] <Toma-> !info gcc-3.4
[07:45] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[07:45] <pppoe_dude> however, gkrellm shows more of that activity in /dev/hda3 (/home)
[07:45] <steven_> saved
[07:45] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: tried using fuser to see if anything is accessing the drive?
[07:45] <TheRaginAsian> so bascially, I would like you to change that line into "/dev/hda /media/cdrom0 auto user,noauto 0 0"
[07:46] <TheRaginAsian> oh ok
[07:46] <steven_> yep
[07:46] <TheRaginAsian> now type "sudo mount -a"
[07:46] <pppoe_dude> Toma- no but i will try now
[07:46] <TheRaginAsian> any errors?
[07:46] <fangorious> crimsun: "No suitable AP found" look srathe rsuspicious
[07:46] <pppoe_dude> like.... fuser /home?
[07:46] <Penguin> you stupid bitch
[07:46] <steven_> ok
[07:46] <TheRaginAsian> no errors?
[07:47] <steven_> nope
[07:47] <TheRaginAsian> ok, try playing that DVD again
[07:47] <steven_> ok
[07:47] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: nope... read the man a bit more ;)
[07:47] <crimsun> fangorious: need to boot my laptop, sec.
[07:47] <steven_> still the same error
[07:47] <pppoe_dude> Toma-, k... working on it :p
[07:47] <TheRaginAsian> hmm... do you have the right permissions?
[07:47] <jason0_> Toma-: Toma-: still can't seem to find it, all I see are the later gcc4 versions.
[07:47] <Toma-> i do believe it onvolves an -l
[07:48] <Toma-> jason0_: i can see it... its called gcc-3.4
[07:48] <Toma-> try apt-get it
[07:48] <TheRaginAsian> Go System>Administration>Users and Groups
[07:48] <TheRaginAsian> then click on your account, click "properties", then click the "user privilages" tab and make sure all of the checkboxes are filled
[07:48] <steven_> yeah i am ubergod on my comp
[07:49] <steven_> lol
[07:49] <TheRaginAsian> LOL
[07:49] <steven_> not like i know anything about it
[07:49] <steven_> brand new
[07:49] <TheRaginAsian> well, with ubuntu your not supposed to be able to be ubergod without the right set of permissions and passwords
[07:49] <TheRaginAsian> like, there is no "root"... well, there is, but its turned off for good reason
[07:49] <steven_> they all match, and i even have my id
[07:49] <fangorious> crimsun: since I have the ssid hard coded, it should be ok that I have broadcasting the ssid disabled on the AP, right?
[07:50] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: or use lsof
[07:50] <steven_> i can get into the clubs and everything
[07:50] <intelikey> jason0_ to search for packages 'atp-cache search <blah> '  if it is in the repos you have set, it will show.
[07:50] <TheRaginAsian> LOL
[07:50] <TheRaginAsian> man you need to get me that then, all I get into are IRC rooms like this
[07:50] <xxenon> any idea why this crontab does not start every 10 minutes ?
[07:50] <xxenon> 0-59/10 * * * * /home/jul/projets/serveur_geneve/ip_check.pl
[07:50] <steven_> lol
[07:50] <pppoe_dude> Toma- lsof gives me 100 pages worth of stuff
[07:50] <jason0_> intelikey: just using apt-get, it found it.
[07:51] <rjordan> Anyone here know why my xorg wont try and load my nvidia driver?
[07:51] <Toma-> pppoe_dude: specify the partiton
[07:51] <steven_> i am actually really new to linux
[07:51] <Toma-> like, lsof /dev/hda1
[07:51] <pppoe_dude> cool
[07:51] <fangorious> xxenon, why not just put "00,10,20,30,40,50" for the minutes field?
[07:51] <fangorious> minus the quotes
[07:51] <xxenon> fn~fangorious - lemme try
[07:51] <steven_> my friend set up the comp for me and apparently i was given power
[07:51] <crimsun> fangorious: I actually use eapol_version=2
[07:51] <rjordan> xxenon: */10 should do it
[07:51] <TheRaginAsian> hm... well, everything seems like it should be right
[07:52] <fangorious> steven_ phenominal cosmic power, or real ultimate power?
[07:52] <intelikey> jason0_ dont forget build-essential  if you havent installed it yet
[07:52] <TheRaginAsian> if you have totme-xine, libdvdcss2, and you set your cdrom mount to auto
[07:52] <crimsun> fangorious: you may need ap_scan=2, too
[07:52] <steven_> all the power in the known universe, itty bity living space
[07:52] <TheRaginAsian> haha, I need to watch that movie again
[07:52] <pppoe_dude> Toma-, nothing out of the ordinary with lsof.
[07:52] <steven_> lol
[07:52] <Mr_Milenko> totem-xine*
[07:52] <jason0_> Seems to have worked, thanks all.
[07:53] <TheRaginAsian> thanks Mr_Milenko
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> what is that line from steven
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> i heard it before..
[07:53] <fangorious> Mr_Milenko: disney's aladin
[07:53] <TheRaginAsian> Alladin
[07:53] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> oh lol
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> Genie is a pimp
[07:53] <TheRaginAsian> Robin Williams
[07:53] <steven_> yeah
[07:53] <Toma-> man lsof
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> yep
[07:53] <rjordan> Anyone here know what the xorg.conf line is to include a driver/module path?
[07:53] <Toma-> ewps
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> ok no more in here
[07:53] <TheRaginAsian> well steven you can try the microsoft way and reboot lol
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> Toma- rofl
[07:53] <TheRaginAsian> see what happenes
[07:53] <Toma-> :D
[07:54] <RancidLM> hey all
[07:54] <steven_> this was supposed to be simple
[07:54] <steven_> lol
[07:54] <steven_> k brb
[07:54] <RancidLM> im new to ubuntu and woundering if theres any pre-compiled SMP kernels for it i select in synaptic.. ?
[07:54] <fangorious> crimsun: ok, running wpa_supplicant with -dd looked better that time, not sure if it looked right, but I'm trying ifup
[07:54] <rjordan> RancidLM: I beleive there are
[07:55] <benplaut> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:55] <benplaut> !botsnack
[07:55] <ubotu> thanks benplaut :)
[07:55] <TheRaginAsian> chown TheRaginAsian THE-CLUB
[07:55] <TheRaginAsian> thats what I need
[07:55] <B_166-ER> !nvidia
[07:55] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:55] <sss_lr> RancidLM, apt-cacahe seach kernel source
[07:56] <fangorious> crimsun: still no good. iwconfig says unassociated still, but at least it has the right ssid listed now. any hints on what I might look for in the wpa_supplicant -dd output?
[07:56] <rjordan> ty!
[07:56] <intelikey> does anyone know what i need ?
[07:56] <TheRaginAsian> steven_: just for kicks, did you apply the w32codecs package too?
[07:56] <RancidLM> sss_lr: i just found it.. kernel-smp its <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:56] <crimsun> fangorious: does it remain associated with the AP?
[07:57] <Toma-> intelikey: what?
[07:57] <TheRaginAsian> or perhaps ffmpeg
[07:57] <intelikey> just checking to see if yall were mind readers or something Toma-
[07:57] <TheRaginAsian> cause im pretty such libdvdcss2 just unlocks the DVD, you still need ffmpeg or w32codecs I believe to play it
[07:59] <fangorious> seems to go back and forth between state "Associating -> Disconnected" to "Disconnected -> Disconnected" to "Disconnected -> Scanning" to "Scanning -> Associating" and back around
[07:59] <mk500> hi all
[07:59] <fangorious> hi
[07:59] <TheRaginAsian> AH, you may need libdvdread3!
[07:59] <mk500> has anyone tried ubuntu on the quad G5?
[07:59] <michael> anyone here up for a pm session?
[08:00] <michael> anyone WOMEN up for a pm session?
[08:00] <fangorious> it's already AM here ...
[08:00] <TheRaginAsian> lol, michael is trying to cyber from a Linux IRC room
[08:00] <fangorious> xxenon: any luck with the cron job?
[08:00] <TheShadow> Hi guys. I have a question about ubuntu
[08:00] <michael> anyone WOMEN here up for a fun pm session?  PM me. :)
[08:00] <TheRaginAsian> fangorious: ROFL
[08:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi TheShadow
[08:01] <ClayG> Is there a program that creates a sort of catalog (gui) of descriptions for files?
[08:01] <michael> hahaha
[08:01] <TheRaginAsian> i most certainly got that one
[08:01] <michael> j/k
[08:01] <TheShadow> I just booted the live DVD, but it doesn't see my Windows NTFS volume (C: and D:) , it does however see two other NTFS volumes
[08:01] <crimsun> fangorious: yeah, it's not associating properly then
[08:01] <michael> who needs help with ubuntu?
[08:01] <ClayG> so if you download lets say a phpscript you can create a description and catalogue it?
[08:01] <TheShadow> i d
[08:01] <TheShadow> i do
[08:01] <encompass> is ubuntu able to play mp3's on a standard install?
[08:01] <mk500> I downloaded the PowerPC DVD distro, so hope I will have success installing on a 2-way, and a 4-way next week.
[08:01] <crimsun> fangorious: so it's definitely set to WPA and TKIP?
[08:01] <intelikey> well i'd like to get the 'sound' working on this grey haired porccupine,   it seems to be crystel audio on board isapnp   i think cs423x   a wiki said that just modprobing the driver would not get sound.... it was right.    anyone knowledgable on this ?
[08:01] <TheShadow> can ubuntu read ntfs?
[08:01] <paueas> encompass no
[08:01] <Locke> does anyone know of any good 3d rendering programs for Linux?
[08:01] <xxenon> fangoriou - lemme check if it started
[08:01] <michael> There are instructions on hour to mount windows partitions in the gnome help file
[08:01] <spikebike> povray
[08:01] <sss_lr> encompass, no
[08:01] <cdubya> TheShadow, it can read, but not write.....
[08:01] <xxenon> fangoriou - it didnt
[08:01] <encompass> paueas: how do I get that support?
[08:02] <michael> wings3d rocks for rendering stuff fast and nicely
[08:02] <TheShadow> gotcha, cdubya, thanks
[08:02] <TheRaginAsian> steven_ you still with us?
[08:02] <spikebike> sorry, forget
[08:02] <spikebike> oops
[08:02] <paueas> encompas: sudo apt-get install gstreamer8.0-plugins
[08:02] <TheShadow> this is cool :)
[08:02] <encompass> thanks
[08:02] <fangorious> $ sudo wpa_cli scan_result
[08:02] <fangorious> Selected interface 'eth0'
[08:02] <fangorious> bssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid
[08:02] <fangorious> 00:14:bf:41:ab:a1       0       236     [WPA-PSK-TKIP]   <hidden>
[08:02] <fangorious> 00:14:bf:41:ab:a1       0       182     [WPA-PSK-TKIP]   lopht
[08:02] <TheRaginAsian> guess I didnt see him sign off
[08:02] <TheShadow> it's the first time i'm actually running linux :)
[08:02] <crimsun> intelikey: cat /proc/asound/devices
[08:02] <michael> dir
[08:02] <michael> hehe
[08:02] <crimsun> intelikey: err, s/devices/cards/
[08:02] <TheShadow> i love this distro
[08:02] <cdubya> TheShadow, np, it's cool.
[08:02] <michael> anyone have luck with the aound blaster 24-bit live!?
[08:02] <cdubya> TheShadow, only run linux now
[08:02] <Madpilot> TheShadow: welcome to the Light Side, then ;)
[08:02] <TheShadow> lol
[08:02] <intelikey>  33:       : timer
[08:02] <michael> anyone have luck with the Sound blaster 24-bit live!?
[08:03] <cdubya> run many others....
[08:03] <intelikey> crimsun ^
[08:03] <Locke> any other good 3d rendering programs?
[08:03] <TheShadow> i'll be spending my free time here, that's for sure ;)
[08:03] <michael> uSE WINGS3D
[08:03] <fangorious> xxenon: you do have the cron service running?
[08:03] <cdubya> but like Ubuntu the best.
[08:03] <cdubya> TheShadow, cool.
[08:03] <cdubya> Lots of real knowledgable folks here.
[08:03] <crimsun> lsmod|grep ^snd_cs
[08:03] <michael> anyone have luck with the Sound blaster Live 24-bit!?
[08:03] <intelikey> --- no soundcards ---
[08:04] <crimsun> michael: it should work fine with Breezy, why?
[08:04] <TheRaginAsian> ive used: Slackware, Mandrake (when it was still mandrake!), Mepis, Knoppix, Gnoppix, Morphix (when listing liveCD's im listing the ones ive installed to HD), Arch, SuSE, FrugalWare, and Ubuntu
[08:04] <michael> i have no sound
[08:04] <crimsun> intelikey: what computer?
[08:04] <crimsun> michael: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:04] <Toma-> Locke: blender
[08:04] <intelikey> ibm 300
[08:04] <cdubya> TheRaginAsian, I think I've installed all of those in the last 4-5 weeks.
[08:04] <cdubya> heh
[08:04] <TheRaginAsian> and kno what, ill still keep trying other distros, but ill keep coming back to arch
[08:04] <Locke> toma: whats that?
[08:04] <cdubya> well, except Morphix and FrugalWare....
[08:04] <cdubya> heh
[08:04] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, im just trying to make a point about ubuntu
[08:04] <fangorious> TheRaginAsian: no RedHat/Fedora?
[08:04] <Toma-> Locke: 3d app
[08:04] <cdubya> yeah, ubuntu rocks.
[08:04] <Toma-> !info blender
[08:04] <ubotu> blender: (Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.37a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4016 kB, Installed size: 10924 kB
[08:05] <mitrovarr> I just tried mandrake myself... didn't like it anymore
[08:05] <TheRaginAsian> ive never first hand installed RedHat or Fedora, but ive used them and been too turned off to actually install myself
[08:05] <indra_jack> hello can u help me..i'm newbie here
[08:05] <crimsun> fangorious: using wpasupplicant from Breezy, correct?
[08:05] <mitrovarr> rpm-type stuff just seems so primitive next to apt-get
[08:05] <michael> hey crimson...  My card shows up there... just no volume
[08:05] <TheRaginAsian> from the reviews I read and the horrors ive tried to help friends with, im more than hapy to stay away
[08:05] <crimsun> michael: I need the output
[08:05] <michael> er.... volume, but no sound
[08:05] <cdubya> Fedora wouldn't even install on a few of the new FC4 installs on different archs....ppc in particular....
[08:05] <Madpilot> indra_jack: please just ask your questions, don't ask to ask
[08:05] <xxenon> fangorious - yes. I need to go to work, Ill try again tonight. Thanks for your help !
[08:05] <michael> 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[08:05] <michael>                      Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]  at 0xd000 irq 5
[08:05] <fangorious> crimsun: correct, 0.4.5-0ubuntu1
[08:05] <Toma-> Seveas: shouldnt u be banning people for starting a distro conversation :) just like u banned me for saying something about gnome?
[08:06] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, bascially, Fedora sounds like headache I dont need
[08:06] <B_166-ER> i need some serious help, for the second time...i just reinstalled because i had a 'black' screen and my ubuntu would not load... but now its DOING IT again, and it seems its because of the nvidia driver update
[08:06] <TheRaginAsian> I had enough fun babysetting distrobutions... especially arch
[08:06] <crimsun> fangorious: ok, then try specifyng the key_mgmt parameter
[08:06] <michael> 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[08:06] <michael>                      Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]  at 0xd000 irq 5
[08:06] <intelikey> crimsun i modprobed snd-cs4236 and then cat /*cards gives this.
[08:06] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:06] <intelikey> 0 [CS4236B        ] : CS4236B - CS4236B
[08:06] <intelikey>                      CS4236B at 0x534, irq 5, dma 1&3
[08:06] <crimsun> michael: I saw you, but I'm busy with others, please be patient.
[08:06] <intelikey> ooop
[08:06] <B_166-ER> libglx is broke or something
[08:06] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER: so you can't get the Nvidia driver to work then?
[08:06] <michael> you got it... sorry :)
[08:06] <intelikey> was aimed to make that one line.....
[08:07] <crimsun> intelikey: and after unmuting the appropriate mixer elements, do you hear sound?
[08:07] <crimsun> michael: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:07] <intelikey> crimsun cant unmute
[08:07] <intelikey> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[08:07] <crimsun> intelikey: using what app?
[08:07] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian worst than that.. i cannot load into X no more, just in terminal in recovery..and no IRSSI ... and when you dont know what to do..
[08:07] <crimsun> intelikey: sudo modprobe -r snd_cs4236
[08:07] <TheRaginAsian> I mean don't get me wrong, Arch is an EXCELLENT distro... and I still say that Pacman the Package Manager p0wns all other package managers out there... but it was too "RTFM" on all the newbies, I started to despise the community
[08:07] <indra_jack> i have win 98 with printer epson stylus c 63...than another pc i install ubuntu warthy...i wanna print from my ubuntu...what must i do fisrt
[08:08] <intelikey> ok
[08:08] <TheShadow> this may seem like the world's dumbest question, but how does one pop up a terminal window? :)
[08:08] <intelikey> pnp: Device 01:01.00 disabled.
[08:08] <encompass> I think I have those packages install correctly for mp3 playback
[08:08] <encompass> but I don't think it is working stll
[08:08] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER, im thinking that you possibly need to reinstall the restricted modules.... but first things first to get you back up to speed
[08:09] <fangorious> crimsun: no change
[08:09] <Madpilot> TheShadow: Applications menu -> Accessories -> Terminal
[08:09] <TheRaginAsian> boot to Ubuntu, let it throw you to a console
[08:09] <mitrovarr> should be a terminal option under applications->accessories
[08:09] <michael> done crimsun... what is that for?
[08:09] <TheShadow> thank you madpilot
[08:09] <indra_jack> i have win 98 with printer epson stylus c 63...than another pc i install ubuntu warthy...i wanna print from my ubuntu...what must i do first..??
[08:09] <michael> i'm pretty new so.
[08:09] <fangorious> crimsun: set it to WPA-PSK
[08:09] <michael> aren't we all lol
[08:09] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian the kernel modules are no problems i think..the reboot after it did work well
[08:09] <TheRaginAsian> ohh really
[08:09] <encompass> how do I get mp3 playback to work?
[08:09] <TheShadow> wonderful. thanks again
[08:09] <Madpilot> !tell encompass about mp3
[08:09] <indra_jack> hello
[08:09] <encompass> do that not have mp3playback because of the same reason redhat doesn't?
[08:09] <TheRaginAsian> so your having troubles after using it for awhile?
[08:09] <B_166-ER> its my nvidia update, following the guide provided by ubotu, that totally broke my things..
[08:09] <Madpilot> TheShadow: np
[08:10] <encompass> thanks
[08:10] <fangorious> encompass: i believe so
[08:10] <TheRaginAsian> sooo you updated nvidia then after getting it installed?
[08:10] <TheRaginAsian> is that it?
[08:10] <giany911> how do i install a .tgz ?
[08:10] <Davethewave> anyone using a wireless card that is native to linux?
[08:10] <TheRaginAsian> !nvidia
[08:10] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:10] <B_166-ER> i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:10] <fangorious> giany911:  tar xvzf file.tgz
[08:10] <B_166-ER> and thats what bring me to this
[08:10] <B_166-ER> a black screen and ubuntu not loading
[08:10] <michael> well... gtg...
[08:11] <indra_jack> heeloo
[08:11] <indra_jack> can u help me
[08:11] <fangorious> giany911: is there not package for the app you want already in the repos?
[08:11] <giany911> fangorious .. no :(
[08:11] <michael> crimsun.. if you have any ideas, my email is:
[08:11] <cdubya> Davethewave, umm, I'm using an Atheros that was picked up without a hitch........
[08:11] <indra_jack> i have win 98 with printer epson stylus c 63...than another pc i install ubuntu warthy...i wanna print from my ubuntu...what must i do first..??
[08:11] <crimsun> michael: just ping me next time you're on; I'm very busy
[08:11] <gee_cee0> guys wtf is /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot?
[08:11] <intelikey> hehhe so is ubuntu now the xwindow system ?
[08:11] <TheRaginAsian> so you hit ctrl+alt+backspace and you get black?
[08:12] <GTroy> fangorious: can you find a source package?
[08:12] <gee_cee0> it seems to have something to do with my root
[08:12] <fangorious> indra_jack: share the printer on the windows machine, and then on ubuntu go to System->Administration->Printing
[08:12] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian i'm in windows now, another Hd... mi linux Hd totally stops loading after the usplash
[08:12] <B_166-ER> just a black screen..
[08:12] <crimsun> intelikey: what's the specific model?
[08:12] <Davethewave> cdubya what's a hitch? I'm just wondering if anyone has a native linux wireless card, where to get one, and how much becuase Ndiswrapper gives me troubles
[08:12] <fangorious> GTroy: huh?
[08:12] <cdubya> indra_jack, share the printer in 98; go to the printing adminstration and setup the printer as a network printer using SMB.....point to the 98 machine, given you've got a static IP setup for it....and the user and passwd for a user on the 98 machine.....I'd suspect anyway.....but I don't know warty......
[08:12] <TheRaginAsian> it doesnt give you an error
[08:12] <intelikey> crimsun ?
[08:12] <GTroy> source package
[08:12] <intelikey> of
[08:13] <TheRaginAsian> what nvidia card do you have?
[08:13] <fangorious> GTroy: for what?
[08:13] <GTroy> non distro specific package
[08:13] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian no,
[08:13] <B_166-ER> geforce2
[08:13] <GTroy> thought you were looking for a package
[08:13] <gee_cee0> when booting from grub boot disk: menu.lst says kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot ro quiet splash
[08:13] <spikebike> anyone have comments on using ubuntu for a firewall?
[08:13] <TheRaginAsian> so you applied nvidia-glx right?
[08:13] <fangorious> no, giany911 is
[08:13] <B_166-ER> yep
[08:13] <gee_cee0> but doesnt work
[08:13] <crimsun> fangorious: did you set pairwise and group, too, to TKIP?
[08:13] <GTroy> read the nick wrong
[08:13] <TheRaginAsian> and your using the k7 kernel image, not 686, right?
[08:13] <giany911> fangorious ?
[08:13] <crimsun> fangorious: and proto to WPA?
[08:13] <cdubya> Davethewave, I can only tell you that this card came with the laptop and Ubuntu not only picked it up, but set it up on install....all I had to do was use the network applet to find my router, set the WEP key and I was good to go........
[08:13] <B_166-ER> yep
[08:14] <intelikey> crimsun modle of ?
[08:14] <fangorious> rocky! ...
[08:14] <TheRaginAsian> well ill be damned..
[08:14] <crimsun> intelikey: your laptop.
[08:14] <TheRaginAsian> I just dont know
[08:14] <intelikey> it is not a lappy
[08:14] <Davethewave> cdubya cool deal, any idea who the vendor is?
[08:14] <TheRaginAsian> its possible the nvidia drives dont like you, happened to me for awhile
[08:14] <B_166-ER> arrgh
[08:14] <intelikey> ibm 300pl
[08:14] <gee_cee0> someone help plz?
[08:14] <crimsun> intelikey: but it's a something 300, no?
[08:14] <indra_jack> i have sharing printer in win 98 but i cannot see in network for printer...but when i share a folder in win 98 i can see it
[08:14] <cdubya> Atheros
[08:14] <cdubya> Davethewave, maybe here? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79883.html
[08:15] <TheRaginAsian> what you can try doing after uspalsh, is hitting ALT+F4 to get to a virtual console, see if the system is trying to tell you anything
[08:15] <Davethewave> cdubya haha yeah, I'm a bit slow tonite ;)
[08:15] <B_166-ER> crimsun, could you help ? its a kind of 'big' problem, since i have to be on windows... ubuntu not loading.. :|
[08:15] <fangorious>         scan_ssid=1
[08:15] <fangorious>         key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
[08:15] <fangorious>         pairwise=TKIP
[08:15] <fangorious>         group=TKIP
[08:15] <gee_cee0> having problem loading ubuntu from a grub boot floppy...?
[08:15] <fangorious> still not associating
[08:15] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian nah, i cannot do anything
[08:15] <B_166-ER> tried it all
[08:15] <TheRaginAsian> you cant get a virtual console?
[08:15] <B_166-ER> just in recovery mode
[08:15] <Davethewave> cdubya thanks for the info
[08:15] <TheRaginAsian> ahhh good do that
[08:15] <TheRaginAsian> go into recovery mode
[08:16] <indra_jack> cdubya, i have sharing printer in win 98 but i cannot see in network for printer...but when i share a folder in win 98 i can see it
[08:16] <cdubya> Davethewave, np, maybe also here.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?action=show&redirect=WirelessNetworkCards
[08:16] <TheRaginAsian> then type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg,conf"
[08:16] <fangorious> well, adding proto seems to have done something, let me check iwconfig and ifup
[08:16] <TheRaginAsian> oops wait
[08:16] <crimsun> fangorious: err, you're not using scan_ssid=2 ?
[08:16] <TheRaginAsian> is recovery mode graphical?
[08:16] <B_166-ER> nope..
[08:16] <B_166-ER> terminal
[08:16] <TheRaginAsian> whoops
[08:17] <indra_jack> cdubya, i have sharing printer in win 98 but i cannot see in network for printer...but when i share a folder in win 98 i can see it
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> ok, no problem, little different program though
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> do this
[08:17] <fangorious> crimsun: the example config file only indicates 0 and 1 as valid values for that
[08:17] <B_166-ER> pico
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> reboot into recovery mode
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> sure, or nano
[08:17] <crimsun> fangorious: sorry, eapol
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> I use nano but if your used to pico by all means use what you know how to use
[08:17] <B_166-ER> much the same
[08:17] <B_166-ER> nyway..
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> bascically "sudo [editor of choice]  /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:17] <fangorious> crimsun: i have that set to 2, but it's not in the network block, guess it's global
[08:17] <B_166-ER> then.. ?
[08:17] <crimsun> fangorious: that's fine. any luck?
[08:18] <TheRaginAsian> im working on it!
[08:18] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[08:18] <cdubya> indra_jack, do you know the IP of the 98 box?
[08:18] <TheRaginAsian> give me a sec im looking at my xorg as reference
[08:18] <indra_jack> yes
[08:18] <indra_jack> i know
[08:18] <B_166-ER> lol
[08:18] <B_166-ER> ok
[08:18] <B_166-ER> i have acess to my files
[08:18] <B_166-ER> i could check.
[08:18] <B_166-ER> explore2fs
[08:18] <indra_jack> soo cdubya.??
[08:19] <cdubya> indra_jack, and you've setup the correct ip, user and passwd in the warty printer config, using SMB?
[08:19] <crimsun> intelikey: is PnP bios enabled or disabled?
[08:19] <TheRaginAsian> you'll need to find where it says (Driver     "nvidia") and replace nvidia with "nv"
[08:19] <MickMcMack> I got x working with the nvidia drivers, however; I then installed a new kernel-image (the smp), and X will not work if I boot that kernel.
[08:19] <crimsun> intelikey: it may show up as "easyboot" or "quickboot"
[08:19] <cdubya> indra_jack, can you connect to a file share on the 98 box?
[08:19] <MickMcMack> It says it can't find the nvidia module.
[08:19] <indra_jack> yes using samba cdubya
[08:19] <TheRaginAsian> MickMcMack: did you apply the restricted-modules package that goes with that kernel?
[08:20] <TheRaginAsian> youll need SMP restricted-modules for that kernel
[08:20] <indra_jack> i can connect file share on 98..read or full access i can
[08:20] <MickMcMack> How do I do that, TheRaginAsian ?
[08:20] <intelikey> with out rebooting to check the bios crimsun, i'd have to say it is cause the sound works from that 'other os'
[08:20] <TheRaginAsian> well, what kernel are you using
[08:20] <cdubya> indra_jack, do you have the shared printer name right?
[08:20] <indra_jack> yes
[08:20] <crimsun> intelikey: make sure the bios is set to defaults
[08:20] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian, 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp
[08:21] <intelikey> crimsun default ?   default what ?
[08:21] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER: bascailly, you need to edit your xorg.conf file and change the driver from "nvidia" to "nv"
[08:21] <crimsun> back in 25 minutes, driving home.
[08:21] <crimsun> intelikey: default settings.
[08:21] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/couUKz38.html
[08:21] <indra_jack> but i don't have installer  c63 for ubuntu
[08:21] <B_166-ER> my file..
[08:21] <nemik> ho can i disable gxine from being the mozilla realplayer plugin and make realplayer handle those links instead?
[08:21] <TheShadow> adding ntfs volumes is a cinch
[08:21] <intelikey> i'll go reboot......
[08:21] <TheShadow> i really LOVE this distro..
[08:21] <jason0_> What package do I need for the kernel source?
[08:21] <jason0_> (not just headers)
[08:22] <indra_jack> because default c63 not for linux os
[08:22] <cdubya> indra_jack, the reason I ask is that you're not going to "see" the printer in a network unless you're using the KDE print manager and try to set it up as a Samba printer there, and even if there, if memory serves, you just give the URI.....
[08:22] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER. oh ok kewl how did you do that
[08:22] <TheRaginAsian> MickMcMack: apply the linux-restricted-modules package that has amd64-k8-smp in it
[08:22] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian, i am under WIndows, and i have a program to acess my linux files
[08:22] <TheRaginAsian> no not that
[08:22] <nemik> so how can i make mozilla not open real-media with gxine and let realplayer or helix handle it instead?
[08:22] <TheRaginAsian> I mean like, posting it up like that, it that your own space?
[08:22] <B_166-ER> its a simple no paste site..
[08:22] <TheRaginAsian> cause ill post back that file edited if you want
[08:23] <B_166-ER> !nopaste
[08:23] <ubotu> B_166-ER: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:23] <fangorious> crimsun: finally! it works now
[08:23] <fangorious> crimsun, thanks for your help. now I have suspend, hibernate, and wpa working. This is officially the best supported laptop i've run, and ubuntu certainly took care of most of it
[08:23] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian, " linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp-nvidia-legacy "
[08:23] <MickMcMack> That package? ^
[08:23] <B_166-ER> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:23] <TheRaginAsian> well what nvidia card do you have MickMcMack
[08:23] <MickMcMack> 7800GTX.
[08:23] <indra_jack> oke when i can see the printer in network...i must install c63 first for ubuntu.??
[08:23] <TheRaginAsian> you dont want legacy then
[08:23] <MickMcMack> But there are no non-legacy drivers that have smp.
[08:23] <MickMcMack> :-\
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> or seriously?
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> OH
[08:24] <MickMcMack> " linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp "
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> wait
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> YES
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> that one
[08:24] <MickMcMack> Unless that is also nvidia drivers?
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> MickMcMack
[08:24] <B_166-ER> TheRaginAsian i dont think i can edit it, jsut look at it.. so i will have to open it in terminal anyway, but this way i can be sure what to change
[08:24] <cdubya> indra_jack, does warty have a default driver for the c63?
[08:24] <fangorious> crimsun: not sure if the last couple messages got delivered, having two interfaces on the same subnet seems to screw up xchat, but it's working now
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, that has the nvidia non-legacy modules in it!
[08:24] <cdubya> I ask because again, I don't know warty
[08:24] <MickMcMack> Okies. Thanks TheRaginAsian - I got confused because it didn't say nvidia, sorry. >_<;
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> they only have a legacy package for legacy
[08:24] <TheRaginAsian> yeah I can understand np hope it works
[08:24] <indra_jack> no just epson colour and another but c63 not :(
[08:25] <MickMcMack> Now to reboot and test. \ooo/
[08:25] <cdubya> indra_jack, you might consider running breezy if you want it supported.....I know for a fact that it is on breezy because I'm running it and I just checked it out in the printing config.....
[08:25] <TheRaginAsian> ok give me just a sec ill give you a nopaste page back
[08:25] <B_166-ER> ok
[08:26] <B_166-ER> 	Driver		"nvidia'
[08:26] <B_166-ER> to 'nv' ?
[08:26] <IcemanV9> finally got wine + pptviewer to work! woot!
[08:26] <TheRaginAsian> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/H8jtpX54.html
[08:26] <TheRaginAsian> yes
[08:26] <TheRaginAsian> or check out the paste thing I jsut did lol
[08:27] <TheRaginAsian> ive never used one of those so sorry if I seem a little over excited about it
[08:27] <paueas> i am curious about dual booting ubuntu and osx.. i know that osx is running on top of unix so i do i actually need a seperate partition for ubuntu or could it just work of the already set up main partition of the osx setup?
[08:27] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian, many thanks - it works fine now. :)
[08:27] <B_166-ER> np :)
[08:27] <TheRaginAsian> paueas: yeah, Ubuntu is actually more different than you think
[08:27] <indra_jack> is breezy running fast for pentium 4 1giga
[08:27] <TheRaginAsian> OSX actually runs atop BSD soo... yeah, too different
[08:27] <indra_jack> is breezy running fast for pentium 4 1giga..??
[08:28] <TheRaginAsian> MickMcMack: excellent!
[08:28] <paueas> well i have ubuntu set up on my dell d600 laptop cause i hate windows.. so i can handel it
[08:28] <B_166-ER> i'll try..
[08:28] <B_166-ER> c ya :)
[08:28] <MickMcMack> I must say - this is THE most painfree nvidia installation I have ever had.
[08:28] <TheRaginAsian> MickMcMack: i would suggest applying those general packages as well if you already havent, that way it updates itself when it needs to so you dont have to babyset it
[08:28] <cdubya> indra_jack, should be just fine.....
[08:28] <TheRaginAsian> I agree, Ubuntu has the pain of Nvidia drivers taken away
[08:28] <cdubya> I run it on this celeron m 1.4
[08:29] <TheRaginAsian> good luck B_166-ER, im going to bed
[08:29] <paueas> so to dual boot osx and ubuntu i am going to need the specific partitions for linux then?
[08:29] <TheRaginAsian> paueas: yes
[08:29] <paueas> and how will i go about shrinking my osx main partition?
[08:29] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian, I'm coming from a Debian system too - it's like a dream. Almost. :)
[08:29] <indra_jack> well...where i can get breezy..??
[08:29] <TheRaginAsian> paueas: sorry, not familiar with Mac's, youll have to ask a fellow PPC person on resizing and all that
[08:30] <TheRaginAsian> indra_jack: http://www.ubuntulinux.org
[08:30] <Mitja> Is there a command line converter from .img to .iso?
[08:30] <paueas> yeah im not to familiar with them.. before this i was all pc based.. but i decided mac was a pretty nice setup and gave them a shot.. i am very pleased
[08:30] <paueas> but i like linux to much not to use it :)
[08:30] <srbaker> hey everyone
[08:30] <Alex> Mitja: google for img2iso
[08:30] <TheRaginAsian> paueas: to be honest, if I could afford, id be right in the mac boat with you
[08:31] <srbaker> i have to make an ubuntu livecd with a custom set of software, and i have to have it mount a usb key as /home
[08:31] <cdubya> paueas, be careful about your os x partition.....it's very temperamental about remaining in the first partition......and in the first 8 gigs....
[08:31] <srbaker> anyone done this already?
[08:31] <TheRaginAsian> MickMcMack: Have any Debian friends tell you that your destroying the community yet?
[08:31] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[08:31] <indra_jack> oke thanks
[08:31] <MickMcMack> TheRaginAsian, I have been outcast. :o
[08:31] <TheRaginAsian> well, I like to think of it this way
[08:31] <paueas> oh yeah i just want a powerbook for laptop.. dual booting osx and ubuntu has got to be about the most unstopable setup you could ahve
[08:31] <MickMcMack> But Ubuntu has _finally_ got sound working on this PC, which makes me a happy user. :)
[08:32] <TheRaginAsian> We'll let ubuntu develop real-world stable-running products yearly and let Debian continue to work on an installer for the next 12 years lol
[08:32] <paueas> cdubya i figured it would have to be similar to windows in that way
[08:32] <cafuego> !root
[08:32] <ubotu> root is, like, totally, rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:32] <cafuego> being on irc as root is bad.
[08:32] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: yes, yes it is
[08:33] <B166er> theraginasian , on IRSSI now...little problem, i dont know why but... i cannot see /etc/x11, even a dir or /etc/ does not show /x11/ in it
[08:33] <MickMcMack> I thought Freenode didn't let you connect to it's IRCd as root. It's _that_ bad.
[08:33] <cdubya> paueas, yeah, just watch out that you don't mess up the hfs partition.....I'm trying to think of a clean way to do it.....I've got Panther on a B/W here, but haven't touched it in months since I got this laptop and Breezy....
[08:33] <cafuego> B166er: /quit, come back as non-root user.
[08:33] <B166er> arr
[08:33] <TheRaginAsian> b166er: your missing an X11 directory?
[08:34] <TheRaginAsian> poop hes gone
[08:34] <lampshade> what is really that bad about being root, honestly?  I mean I know they always say not to do that, but really why?  There would still have to be some way of executing something as that root user, etc... like a vulnerability or something in the IRC software?  :-/  seems almost overcautious to me
[08:34] <TheRaginAsian> I feel bad hes the only one I think ive tried helping tonight I cant get solved
[08:34] <paueas> cdubya, yeah i am thinking i won't actually do this until i have a mac laptop.. but i am just a little curious as to how complicated this is gonna be when i do it
[08:34] <mitrovarr> no point in making it easy for people to attack
[08:34] <TheRaginAsian> lampshade: say now that's dangerous thinking
[08:34] <cafuego> lampshade: Your irc client has auto_dcc enabled. Someone sends you a .bashrc file via dcc.
[08:35] <MickMcMack> lampshade, I could send you a nasty bash scrupt. :o
[08:35] <MickMcMack> *i
[08:35] <TheRaginAsian> if you like running Windows on Linux, run as root for everything
[08:35] <MickMcMack> cafuego put it better than me. >_<
[08:35] <cafuego> lampshade: Scenario 2: Your irc client has a format string bug. You receive ane xploit, which now runs as root.
[08:35] <TheRaginAsian> if you'd like to almost defeat the entire purpose of running Linux
[08:35] <cdubya> paueas, I've heard of a couple of these, unfortunately they're not OSS, but if they work in a demo for the only time you need, hey.....http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20041130014827278
[08:36] <Locke> does anyone know of any good audio studio programs for Linux?
[08:36] <cdubya> paueas, the VolumeWorks is the one I've heard a good deal of discussion on it seems....
[08:36] <[nige] > audacity?
[08:36] <cdubya> yeah, that's what I was thinkin
[08:36] <Locke> thatsz not a studio program
[08:36] <cafuego> lampshade: Basically, if there IS a bug, running it as root makes the potential damage FAR worse.
[08:36] <TheRaginAsian> flstudio through VMware :p... just kidding
[08:36] <cdubya> heh
[08:37] <paueas> cdubya, hmm so they do have something similar to partition magic for windows.. i figured something like that had to exist
[08:37] <TheRaginAsian> paueas: im not sure but a qtparted boot disk might resize HFS+
[08:37] <TheRaginAsian> im just not sure
[08:38] <TheRaginAsian> can someone tell me why Ubuntu isnt a graphical install yet?
[08:38] <[nige] > hmm anyone got an Avermedia TV Go Series card working properly with  TvTime?
[08:38] <cdubya> paueas, yeah, it sounded like from everyone I've talked to that it worked fairly well....check into www.techsurvivors.net.....quite a few folks over there on OS X all the time.....
[08:38] <TheRaginAsian> I feel like its the last missing link from this great OS
[08:38] <topyli> Locke: perhaps ardour is your closest call
[08:38] <B166er> theragingasian, any idea why i cannot see it ?
[08:38] <lampshade> cafuego:  yeah, I get that...  it still seems...  almost overcautious.  I run the risk of a remote bug in an IRC client, I also run the risk of a remote bug in my actual OS somewhere...  I see how the damage is minimized but I still think it is a little overcautious
[08:38] <TheRaginAsian> B166er: are you missing the X11 directory?
[08:39] <[nige] > hmmm, I dont think the lack of a graphical installer in the missing link
[08:39] <cafuego> lampshade: on irc you're FAR more likely to actively get probed for bugs/exploits.
[08:39] <[nige] > the installer is easy enough to use
[08:39] <B166er> theraginasian , well, if i looked while on windows, i could see it.. but in terminal, its not listed :\
[08:39] <lampshade> cafuego: that's a good point
[08:39] <B166er> WEiRd
[08:39] <TheRaginAsian> lampshade: I think regardless, if that bug is exploited and your not running root, it still has little to no chance of causing damage
[08:39] <B166er> i cannot log in as user for now..
[08:39] <TheRaginAsian> where as to the flipside
[08:39] <cafuego> lampshade: especially when online as nick!root@hostname
[08:40] <B166er> a result of my problem.
[08:40] <cafuego> lampshade: No point waving a red flag at the bull ;-)
[08:40] <TheRaginAsian> how were you even able to login as root?
[08:40] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: excellent analogy
[08:40] <steven_> hey ragin i figured out how to get libdvdcss on my comp
[08:40] <paueas> cdubya, alright ill look into that, so hey out of curiosity if you're a mac user whats your motive to be using linux? i know for me coming from the windows side i absolutely hated microsoft.. but i really like mac so far..
[08:40] <steven_> watching The Matrix right now
[08:40] <cdubya> paueas, grew up on macs.
[08:40] <steven_> google is an amazing tool
[08:40] <TheRaginAsian> steven_: that's great!
[08:40] <TheRaginAsian> haha, what did you find?
[08:40] <steven_> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:41] <B166er> we'll talk about it later, my point is, i cannot see /x11/ so its hard to edit a file in it :\
[08:41] <B166er> is there a search command in terminal ?
[08:41] <cafuego> B166er: X11, uppercase X.
[08:41] <Locke> how do i find out info on a program? like what version it is?
[08:41] <B166er> yeah i know
[08:41] <cdubya> paueas, still like them, just happen to like linux a bit more since I'm into the server level more and don't want to have to pay for the licensing scheme for OS X server
[08:41] <robotgeek> amarok doesn't read flac?
[08:41] <nemik> how can i change the plugins firefox uses? it keeps opening gxine for real-media.
[08:41] <cafuego> B166er: Please b eprecise then.
[08:42] <cdubya> paueas, the licensing schemes drive me nuts, pretty much. So I abandoned them and went to Linux. :)
[08:42] <TheRaginAsian> B166er: it sounds like something went wrong... extremely wrong. And the fact that you can login as root says other things... did you make it that way or did that just start happening
[08:42] <paueas> cdubya i hated mac's because thats what i used in school.. but then i noticed they used unix now and i was very impressed so i made a switch from windows to mac always using linux for servers too
[08:42] <B166er> Theragingasian, its the recovery mode..
[08:42] <TheRaginAsian> ohhh
[08:42] <paueas> cdubya.. so if it wasn't for servers, you would pretty much be a soul mac user?
[08:42] <cdubya> paueas, yep
[08:43] <cdubya> paueas, os x is pretty well supported now...
[08:43] <paueas> cdubya, thats very good to know.. thanks for the opinion
[08:43] <TheRaginAsian> so if you try going "cd /etc/X11" it doesnt go anywhere?
[08:43] <cdubya> paueas, np. Just my meager $.02......
[08:43] <paueas> cdubya, yeah os x does about everyting i could ever ask a computer to do
[08:43] <Locke> does anyone know how to get info on a program?
[08:43] <lampshade> my LUG had a discussion that was basically "Do you feel guilty about using OSX because it actually is pretty hot" once
[08:43] <TheRaginAsian> HAHA
[08:43] <TheRaginAsian> I wish I had an LUG where I live
[08:43] <B166er> i'll 'RE-re' try..       but i have to quit here each time, i cannot open other instances
[08:43] <cafuego> paueas: OSX can't bluescreen properly ;-P
[08:44] <paueas> cafuego: .02 for the opinion?
[08:44] <cdubya> lampshade, heh
[08:44] <cafuego> paueas: Well, you know...
[08:44] <cafuego> -pedantic
[08:44] <cdubya> lampshade, it's pretty slick to say the least.
[08:44] <paueas> cafuego: lol.. yeah it is soo superior to windows! whats the deal with this tab thing.. in linux i can hit tab and complete nics.. with osx i can't seem to do that.. is there i key i am missing?
[08:45] <paueas> really on the mini?
[08:45] <paueas> i am using a mini right now actually
[08:45] <cafuego> paueas: is your shell set to bash or csh?
[08:45] <paueas> how do i tell?
[08:45] <cdubya> mom runs tiger on a mini with 512 and a 1.4....scoots right along
[08:45] <cafuego> paueas: echO $SHELL
[08:45] <cafuego> s/0/o
[08:45] <Locke> what is JACK?
[08:45] <paueas> so i am using a mini right now you really think ubuntu is quicker than osx? and why?
[08:46] <cafuego> cdubya: mine's a 1.4 with 1GB, Tiger just _crawls_ along. Mind you, I do have 100+GB of data for Spotlight to index.
[08:46] <paueas> i am using bash
[08:46] <cdubya> cafuego, heh
[08:46] <cdubya> yeah, that's a bit....
[08:46] <cafuego> paueas: if I compar durring stuff on OSX vs under Ubuntu, Ubuntu is just faster, more responsive.
[08:46] <cafuego> s/durring/doing / :-)
[08:46] <cdubya> she's got prolly 1-2 gigs if she's got any....
[08:46] <cdubya> heh
[08:46] <TheRaginAsian> well, I must retire all
[08:47] <cafuego> Well, it's my wife's ac actually.
[08:47] <TheRaginAsian> its been entertaining to say the least
[08:47] <TheRaginAsian> nighty night
[08:47] <cafuego> I haven't tried running the system off a fast external fw drive as yet
[08:47] <paueas> mine is a 1.5 with tiger 10.4.3 and 1gb ram.. i do have a 320gb western digital external drive connected though.. perhaps thats my reason for sloness.. or maybe the 77gb of music :)
[08:48] <cdubya> FW target disk mode.....hear a lot that stuff....pretty nice from what I read....
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> theraginasian, well, THAT WAS A NEAT hack man :)
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> worked.
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> nivida, to nv
[08:48] <TheRaginAsian> hahaha
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> damn Details  :P
[08:48] <TheRaginAsian> good!
[08:48] <andrew> Question: I'd like to have both Gnome and KDE to decide which one I want to stick with. Is it better to install Ubuntu apt-get KDE or get Kubuntu and apt-get gnome, or does it matter?
[08:48] <TheRaginAsian> well, I can leave happy then
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> i still dont think i have the latest nvidia drivers
[08:48] <TheRaginAsian> ive resolved all questions asked to me tonight
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> but that will be another day
[08:49] <B_166-ER-X> 3:00 am here
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, please lol
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> haha, same here
[08:49] <B_166-ER-X> thankx a lot :)
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> well, were in the same timezone then!
[08:49] <B_166-ER-X> Quebec, canada
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> np, i may try to be in here again sometime soon
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> Jackson MI
[08:49] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> IM me on AIM sometime if you looking to Linux chat or question
[08:49] <TheRaginAsian> ImARaginAsian
[08:49] <paueas> cafuego, so spotlight really slows down the system huh?
[08:50] <sampan> andrew, install ubuntu and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -- it's a large download but it's painless if you have broadband
[08:50] <andrew> sampan, Thanks, That is what I'll do.
[08:50] <TheRaginAsian> sampan: does that allow you to choose a KDE session from GDM i take it?
[08:50] <cdubya> paueas, it seems like I've read it does.....
[08:51] <mitrovarr> I installed KDE and it puts KDE among the session options when you log in
[08:51] <sampan> theraginasian  actually, iirc when apt installs the kde packages it will ask you to choose kdm or stick with gdm
[08:51] <andrew> is apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop better than getting kdesktop through synaptic?
[08:51] <bluemage> hihi
[08:51] <TheRaginAsian> sampan: neat
[08:51] <Hobbsee> andrew: not sure on what's in kdesktop, but likely, yes
[08:51] <krisg> hi can my image scanner be working on ubuntu?
[08:51] <bluemage> would someone please be kind enough to help me out with a root login error?
[08:51] <sampan> andrew, you can use synaptic or just the command line (sudo apt-get install ...) either will work
[08:51] <TheRaginAsian> apt-get when run Ubuntu style is THE only package management ive seen that's ever even been able to COMPETE with Pacman in Arch
[08:52] <lampshade> pacman is hot
[08:52] <TheRaginAsian> B_166-ER-X
[08:52] <TheRaginAsian> yes
[08:52] <lampshade> I played with it a bit.  Waiting for arch to grow a little then I will be using it much more
[08:52] <bluemage> i will give children to the person who helps me. ;(
[08:52] <TheRaginAsian> "ImARaginAsian" is my screen name on AOL Instant Messenger
[08:52] <andrew> sampan: ok, but is kubuntu-desktop different from kdesktop?
[08:52] <paueas> cdubya, i could see that.. if spotlight is constantly collecting or changing a database with ever name of every file that could really slow things down
[08:52] <TheRaginAsian> please, message me sometime, save me from my desolate town of non-linux people lol
[08:52] <B_166-ER-X> damn, i use aMSN so :\
[08:52] <TheRaginAsian> hahaha
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> damn, i just quit using it!
[08:53] <cdubya> paueas, yeah, logically it makes sense....so as your index grows, well......
[08:53] <sampan> andrew, that i don't know for sure ... i think it might be, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package that will pull all the relevant packages so you don't have to go through and get them all one by one
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> after gmail came i ditched MSN forever
[08:53] <B_166-ER-X> i was with Gaim...but..was a little 'blah'
[08:53] <drumline> Ragin: you quit using linux?
[08:53] <drumline> huh?
[08:53] <Davethewave> are wireless cards with the prism chipset supported well under Ubuntu?
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> drumline: noooooo! I just quit using MSN
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[08:53] <lampshade> bluemage:  what's the error?  Don't know if I can help, but ask
[08:53] <drumline> oh...
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> I dont think ill ever quit
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Davethewave about wireless
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> now that ive started
[08:53] <cdubya> bluemage, what's the issue exactly?
[08:53] <drumline> Davethewave: the DWL-650 from D-Link should work.
[08:53] <andrew> sampan: ok, that sounds like exactly what I want. Thanks for your help
[08:53] <TheRaginAsian> IM IN TOO DEEP
[08:54] <paueas> theraginasian non linux people need simly to be waken up and show then lighter side of the computer world.. i just gave my girlfriend a computer with ubuntu and i even got her to write a persuasive speech on it (she doesn't even like computers) hows that for spreading the word? :)
[08:54] <bluemage> Hey, lampshade. I'll give a screenshot. I can't explain it properly. ;)
[08:54] <slashx1896> hey all
[08:54] <sampan> andrew, sure thing -- it's how i got to kde/kubuntu too ... enjoy (and if you have more questions about kde stuff #kubuntu is a good place to ask)
[08:54] <TheRaginAsian> paueas: that's what I love... Linux goes from a toy, to a hobby, to a product, to a THREAT. MS can throw all the FUD they want, this train aint stopping!
[08:54] <paueas> cdubya.. yeah i used spotlight like once.. im not sure its really all that necessary for me
[08:55] <Davethewave> drumline: without ndiswrapper?
[08:55] <slashx1896> Where can i download plugins for totem?
[08:55] <slashx1896> it wont let me play videos
[08:55] <drumline> Davethewave: works fine with Knoppix without ndiswrapper...  Worked OK with fedora...  I can't imagine it having problems with ubuntu
[08:55] <mitrovarr> anyone know how to un-gray out the nvidia tv-out options in totem?
[08:55] <TheRaginAsian> slashx1896: first of all, make sure to be using totem-xine
[08:55] <slashx1896> o
[08:55] <slashx1896> lol
[08:55] <slashx1896> xine? or wine?
[08:55] <Davethewave> drumline ok thanks
[08:56] <bluemage> here you go, lampshade. http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4867/error6qg.jpg
[08:56] <paueas> theraginasian.. oh yeah its so awesome because its free, its open and its unstopable, it will derail m$ where they stand and it won't stop until everyone is part of the free software world
[08:56] <TheRaginAsian> xine
[08:56] <slashx1896> k
[08:56] <slashx1896> let me get it
[08:56] <mitrovarr> xine
[08:56] <TheRaginAsian> because, im sorry, but gstreamer is the biggest load ive ever had the misfortune of experiencing :[
[08:56] <TheRaginAsian> gstreamer was a worse experience then cod liver
[08:56] <mitrovarr> yeah, seriously xine is awesome.  I couldn't make g-streamer play hardly anything
[08:56] <TheRaginAsian> the gnome guys really just need to let a couple things go
[08:57] <lampshade> so what were you trying when you got that error?
[08:57] <giany911> how can i open a .rar?
[08:57] <n0dl> can someone tell me where python is installed or where i can find the python folder?
[08:57] <n0dl> i need to set my variable path
[08:57] <TheRaginAsian> 1) Spitial (Windows 95 anyone?) Nautilus is crap
[08:57] <paueas> what is the major disadvantage to gstreamer?
[08:57] <dougsk> But isn't gstreamer the future and all that?
[08:57] <TheRaginAsian> giany911: synaptic the package "unrar"
[08:57] <giany911> k
[08:57] <TheRaginAsian> then use file-roller as usuaul
[08:57] <TheRaginAsian> you may need to add repos if you havent already
[08:57] <lampshade> Anyone know if the ubuntuguide.org is in the process of being updated?  for 5.10?  I'm just curious
[08:58] <TheRaginAsian> lampshade: im sure it will be... for now, most of it is pretty accurate even for breezy
[08:58] <pepsi> there is no inetd in ubuntu?
[08:58] <TheRaginAsian> what is inetd normally?
[08:58] <pepsi> what starts various services?
[08:58] <slashx1896> where is totem-xine?
[08:58] <slashx1896> i installed it
[08:58] <slashx1896> now where can  find it
[08:59] <mitrovarr> it should be in the same place totem was before
[08:59] <TheRaginAsian> slashx1896: totem-xine replaces totem
[08:59] <TheRaginAsian> thanks mitrovarr
[08:59] <liable> pepsi: yes, it listens in place of, and starts services when needed
[08:59] <TheRaginAsian> but um, yeah
[08:59] <mitrovarr> as I understand it, totem-xine uninstalls totem-gstreamer
[08:59] <pepsi> liable, but its not there
[08:59] <slashx1896> where was totem lol, i always got to totem by clicking on files
[08:59] <TheRaginAsian> pepsi: daemons are loaded to /etc/init.d/
[08:59] <liable> pepsi: i dunno, but ubuntu may use xinetd
[08:59] <TheRaginAsian> slashx1896: it should take over the totem, try just doing what you did before
[08:59] <giany911> theraginasian ..i got unrar from synaptic now ?
[08:59] <mitrovarr> applications - sound and video
[08:59] <TheRaginAsian> now use file-roller as usuaul
[09:00] <giany911> file-roller ...u lost me here
[09:00] <TheRaginAsian> haha sorry
[09:00] <giany911> :)
[09:00] <TheRaginAsian> open the .rar package
[09:00] <giany911> with ?
[09:00] <TheRaginAsian> well, what were you trying before?
[09:00] <giany911> archive manager
[09:00] <pepsi> xinted is availabe as a package i know.. i just want ident ;)
[09:00] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, use archive manager again... sorry, im used to the commands for programs, archive manage = file-roller
[09:01] <giany911> yea
[09:01] <dougsk> pepsi netkit-inetd
[09:01] <TheRaginAsian> im pretty sure /etc/init.d/network is what your talking about pepsi
[09:01] <giany911> i installed unrar ..but archive manage still aint opening the .rar
[09:01] <TheRaginAsian> lemme rephrase that... im NOT sure lol
[09:01] <cafuego> giany911: 'unrar-nonfree'
[09:01] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, you need the nonfree one
[09:01] <dougsk> in multiverse that is
[09:01] <cafuego> alternatively, stop downloading w@r3zpr0n
[09:02] <TheRaginAsian> LOL
[09:02] <dougsk> heh heh
[09:02] <giany911> ok then
[09:02] <TheRaginAsian> hey man, I like my warez porn
[09:02] <cafuego> Coz that is the ONLY thing winrar is sued for, I think
[09:02] <giany911> :))
[09:02] <mitrovarr> seriously though, does anywhere else use rar?  I haven't seen rar in years
[09:02] <TheRaginAsian> oh comon now, all the Windows kiddies still use it
[09:02] <slashx1896> i use winrar
[09:02] <slashx1896> used to
[09:02] <fernando> i use it
[09:02] <giany911> ye works ty
[09:02] <giany911>  :)
[09:03] <slashx1896> not ne more
[09:03] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: LOL
[09:03] <pepsi> i think maybe i should just install one of the various ident daemons instead of installing an inet daemon to get that service.. (mind the iDent's and iNet's)
[09:03] <Mitja> I can't get this to compile: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/5181 Can anyone help me please?
[09:03] <TheRaginAsian> ok look, I dual-boot, and since there is no file-roller in Windows I use Winrar
[09:03] <cafuego> TUGZip (it's free!)
[09:03] <dougsk> lzma (7-zip) seems to compress better and bzip2 isn't too far behind, winrar is dated on the compression thingamajig
[09:03] <TheRaginAsian> does it open RAR's?
[09:04] <fernando> apt-get install rar
[09:04] <cafuego> No, but you won't need RARs with TUGzip, just use bz2 tarballs.
[09:04] <TheRaginAsian> sure, but its just like MP3... OGG is a better format, but good luck converting!
[09:04] <cafuego> Just don't download RARs
[09:04] <TheRaginAsian> no I mean when I download RAR files, will TUGzip open them?
[09:04] <TheRaginAsian> LOL
[09:04] <TheRaginAsian> its not my fault people want to use RAR's where I live
[09:04] <cafuego> No legal software comes in RAR format.
[09:04] <giany911> can someone help me with san andreas ?lol:)
[09:05] <TheRaginAsian> oh come now cafuego that bull
[09:05] <cafuego> giany911: That kind of chat is actually prohibited on freenode.
[09:05] <fernando> there is some like a rar's frontend?
[09:05] <dougsk> I'll second cafuego's statement, at least in my experience
[09:05] <TheRaginAsian> if your like me and live around people who are used to paying for compression software, then WinRAR was the next logical progression after WinZIP took a tank
[09:05] <cafuego> TheRaginAsian: If all my neighbours used winrar, I'd move.
[09:05] <dougsk> TheRaginAsian, 7-zip it's free, it's fast, it has a gui, it has lzma -- what more do you need?
[09:06] <TheRaginAsian> live in the middle of nowhere, youll see where im going with this
[09:06] <TheRaginAsian> dougsk: IM quite familiar with the better formats, I simply live around people who are
[09:06] <giany911> oh ok
[09:06] <mitrovarr> one of my friends used to send me a lot of .ace files.  That was annoying as hell
[09:06] <TheRaginAsian> there isnt a person within 20 miles of me right now that knows what linux is
[09:06] <fernando> anyone knows a gui for rar?
[09:07] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: lol, im 17!
[09:07] <cafuego> fernando: the archiv manager with rar installed
[09:07] <TheRaginAsian> ill be out soon enough
[09:07] <dougsk> TheRaginAsian, hehe -- well when i lived in the sticks all the gambling machines used linux, so I'd bet they're more familiar then you think!
[09:07] <cafuego> excuses, excuses
[09:07] <TheRaginAsian> im actually pretty excited to be going to Indiana Tech next year
[09:07] <fernando> thanks cafuego
[09:07] <TheRaginAsian> lol, I work for the Geek Squad how THAT
[09:07] <TheRaginAsian> *hows
[09:08] <mitrovarr> I've been half tempted to look into working for them myself.  What's the requirements?
[09:08] <polpak> I can't figure out what software I can use for riping and burning backup images of my copy protected cdroms (mostly games) anyone know of anything that's remotely user friendly and easy to install?
[09:08] <slashx1896> whats a good audio player except for XMMS
[09:08] <robotgeek> slashx1896: amarok
[09:08] <cafuego> slashx1896: beep-media-player, muine (but that uses mono), rhythmbox.
[09:08] <TheRaginAsian> mitrovarr: Basically, you have to become morally bankrupt and SELL SELL SELL
[09:08] <polpak> slashx1896, I just use rhythmbox
[09:08] <mitrovarr> that bad?
[09:08] <slashx1896> my audio files are set for totem as defualt player, how do i change the default player to rhythembox
[09:09] <mitrovarr> I'm just looking for something short-term until grad school starts next year, and my primary skill (biology) is dead useless for short term work.
[09:09] <TheRaginAsian> Geek Squad = Best Buy = Best Lie = Throw your ethics out the window beacuse the words "Performance Service Plan" is the only thing allowed to come out of your mouth... well, that or "GEEK SQUAD IN HOME SERVICES!"
  I thought they were just a standard computer-repair group
[09:10] <Locke> i'm having a problem with my sound card, maybe someone can help me?
[09:10] <slashx1896> i dont see change defualt application
[09:10] <TheRaginAsian> mitrovarr: err... no.  The In-Home guys, now THEY KNOW what they are talking about
[09:11] <Locke> when i have music playing and ANY other sound comes on, be it an IM, a folder opeing, a program, anything, my music skips, is there any idea's on how to fix it?
[09:11] <mitrovarr> those the guys that go to people's houses and fix things?
[09:11] <TheRaginAsian> but the In-Store techs... shit man, I had more experience when I was 7
[09:11] <mitrovarr> that was actually what I was hoping to do.
[09:11] <rhoffa> how can i figure out my ip in my network with linux
[09:11] <mitrovarr> god knows I've done it enough times for friends/relatives
[09:11] <TheRaginAsian> mitrovarr: yeah, the In-Home isnt something you can just straight up apply for unfortunetly
[09:11] <rhoffa> i need to know to configure my router with port fowarding
[09:11] <mitrovarr> ah.  bummer.
[09:11] <TheRaginAsian> you have to work your way up
[09:11] <intelikey> well i've played around in the bios and i'm no closer to getting sound working that i was.
[09:11] <TheRaginAsian> heres what I would do, and in fact am doing
[09:12] <TheRaginAsian> try to get in ya know, but ALWAYS... ALWAYS... keep your options open
[09:12] <mitrovarr> ah well, I'd have to go to a city for that kind of thing anyway.  Plus they'd probably want a certification, and mine are all expired.
[09:12] <Locke> does anyone have any idea on how to fix my problem?
[09:12] <rhoffa> could someone help me find my ip in my network
[09:12] <rhoffa> i dont know how without ip config from windows
[09:12] <slashx1896> wait so how do i chagne defualt applicationm?
[09:12] <mitrovarr> you could try to increase your buffer size in the program
[09:12] <mitrovarr> that might help skipping
[09:12] <TheRaginAsian> my situation is rather musing... see, I used to work for the complete opposite of best lie... a tiny little computer repair shop... unfortunetly, just like the big places, management sucks, and I felt like I was being ripped off... it wasent worth the gas to drive to town to work there
[09:12] <topyli> rhoffa: ifconfig
[09:13] <mitrovarr> I dunno if it might help with other sounds, though
[09:13] <intelikey> in fact it was detecting a card and now it's not.....
[09:13] <TheRaginAsian> actually, I work with a guy who is HALF A+ Certified... meaning... a moron
[09:13] <mitrovarr> omg
[09:13] <mitrovarr> half A+?
[09:13] <TheRaginAsian> heres what better...
[09:13] <mitrovarr> that's like, a negative certification
[09:13] <TheRaginAsian> HE'S HIGHER UP THEN ME
[09:13] <dougsk> slashx1896, right click select properties, select ope with tab --- if the program hasn't been associated yet you may need to do a right click open with other applciation and select /usr/bin/$program first
[09:13] <TheRaginAsian> im fully A+, toshiba laptop, and soon to be Network+
[09:13] <mitrovarr> hell, most of the more intelligent primates could get an A+
[09:13] <mitrovarr> it takes ONE class
[09:14] <Locke> when i have music playing and ANY other sound comes on, be it an IM, a folder opeing, a program, anything, my music skips, is there any idea's on how to fix it?
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> well see im only 17 so I cant be a tech yet
[09:14] <mitrovarr> I used to be CCNA/CCNP but it all expired when I changed my objectives
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> when I turn 18 they will make me a Tech
[09:14] <slashx1896> i did that
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> oh shit wow
[09:14] <mitrovarr> ah
[09:14] <rhoffa> topyli - can i renew and release
[09:14] <slashx1896> now it opens in ryhtembox or w/e but it wont play
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> yeah that'd carry some weight
[09:14] <mitrovarr> well, they're expired.
[09:14] <rhoffa> i need to set my ip to 192.168.x.x because of my router
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> dood, with Best Buy, just TELL THEM, be like "Yeah im Cisco"
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> they dont check man
[09:14] <mitrovarr> heh
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> well, my store doesnt
[09:14] <mitrovarr> I still carry the cards
[09:14] <rhoffa> do i go into networking and just change it from there?
[09:14] <intelikey> Locke you could disable event sounds,,,, but that is not fixing it i know.
[09:14] <TheRaginAsian> my store is trash though, I hate my store
[09:15] <TheRaginAsian> wanna know whats even worse
[09:15] <mitrovarr> I keep switching objectives and dumping my old accomplishments
[09:15] <mitrovarr> what's that?
[09:15] <TheRaginAsian> my store is a DISTRICT SALES LEADER
[09:15] <dougsk> apropos
[09:15] <Rawplayer> MI
[09:15] <mitrovarr> lol
[09:15] <mitrovarr> bad store in a good place, I bet
[09:15] <slashx1896> now XMMS wont work... it sais some error about my soundcard
[09:15] <cYcLoNeZz> hmms ... so many off topic chats here ....
[09:15] <topyli> rhoffa: you could edit /etc/network/interfaces and set static ips there. i think you may be able to do it in system -> admin -> network as well
[09:15] <TheRaginAsian> nah, Jackson is the shithole of michigan
[09:16] <mitrovarr> well, lots of business, that's what I meant
[09:16] <intelikey> !sound
[09:16] <ubotu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:16] <rhoffa> the one that is <IP_ADDRESS> by deafult right?
[09:16] <dougsk> slashx1896, what is ti that your trying to accomplish?
[09:16] <andrew> sampan: I got kubuntu-desktop now it's asking what I want the default display manager to be gdm or kdm? what does this do, just set my default session to gnome or kde?
[09:16] <topyli> rhoffa: no. that's the loopback device, which your box uses to talk to itself
[09:16] <TheRaginAsian> haha yeah, the rich know how to spend on big TV's while the poor buy a lot of those emachines, so really, thats where the sales are from lol
[09:16] <dougsk> nah it changes your login window, if your going kde all the way choose kdm, I prefer gdm myself though
[09:16] <slashx1896> play my music
[09:16] <capiCrimm> Whats the command to run torrent files?
[09:16] <lampshade> andrew:  that is the little manager that comes up at the beginning for graphical login is all.  If you are going to use KDE I would choose KDM
[09:16] <rhoffa> so how do i find what my ip number is right now from my router
[09:17] <sampan> andrew, it will set your default display manager ... if you suspect you'll be mostly kde then choose kdm ... if you want to stick mainly with gnome and just try kde some then stick with gdm
[09:17] <slashx1896> theres always errors coming up when i try to play them
[09:17] <mitrovarr> lol.  I bet 95% of the machines that are messed up are just spyware/virus/zombied
[09:17] <rhoffa> i need to set it with my port forwarding for bittorent
[09:17] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa #azureus-users
[09:17] <dougsk> slashx1896, okay what application do you want to be the defualt 'music' player?
[09:17] <TheRaginAsian> mitrovarr: 98.66369156985% to be precise
[09:17] <andrew> I will still be able to login to gnome occasionally though right?
[09:17] <anavim> what's the name of the gnome tool which shows me how much power I have left in my laptop battery?
[09:17] <lampshade> rhoffa: if you just want the ip of your current machine, sudo ifconfig should show you
[09:17] <TheRaginAsian> im kidding lol
[09:17] <cYcLoNeZz> mitrovarr and TheRaginAsian ... #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <topyli> rhoffa: i honestly don't know how your (or any) router works. never had one :)
[09:17] <TheRaginAsian> oh yeah oops
[09:18] <rhoffa> no, i know how to set it up it was fine with windows
[09:18] <slashx1896> Ryhthm Box or w/e..
[09:18] <rhoffa> i just need to know what my linux syustem ip is so i can tell the router, i have all the port things worked out
[09:18] <TheRaginAsian> well, I really need to be getting to sleep though anyways
[09:18] <lampshade> rhoffa:  sudo ifconfig
[09:18] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa ifconfig
[09:18] <lampshade> it will be listed there
[09:18] <TheRaginAsian> ImARaginAsian is my SN on AIM anyone, feel free to IM me please! PLEASE!
[09:18] <TheRaginAsian> later all
[09:18] <TheRaginAsian> night
[09:18] <slashx1896> when i load song it says 'this file is not an audio stream'
[09:18] <topyli> rhoffa: so, give the interface facing the router (eth0 maybe) an ip that the router likes
[09:19] <rhoffa> i got it working
[09:19] <slashx1896> and my song is .mp3
[09:19] <topyli> rhoffa: cool
[09:19] <rhoffa> thank you
[09:19] <dougsk> slashx1896, rhythmbox okay, no worries, is it an mp3?  Yeah I bet I think first after you get all the stuff in universe for playing mp3's you need to run $gst-register-0.8 from a prompt
[09:20] <rhoffa> i have another question though, i cant retag things in rythymbox and all my mp3 folders have locks on them and cant be moved
[09:20] <rhoffa> how can i fix that
[09:20] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa use chmod ...
[09:20] <rhoffa> whats that
[09:20] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa man chmod
[09:21] <polpak> I can't figure out what software I can use for riping and burning backup images of my copy protected cdroms (mostly games) anyone know of anything that's remotely user friendly and easy to install?
[09:21] <dougsk> slashx1896, then you'lll use nautilus to borwse to an mp3, right click , select properties and select the ' open with' tab -- rhythmbox will already be there and slect the radio button for it.  Afterwards that should be it
[09:21] <cYcLoNeZz> polpak ... k3b
[09:21] <slashx1896> wait so what do i do?
[09:21] <rhoffa> i dont know what it is
[09:21] <topyli> rhoffa: rhythmbox cannot change the tags. the whole dialog is just a confusing placeholder for future development
[09:21] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa thats why type man chmod in terminal
[09:21] <slashx1896> run $gst-register-0.8 from terminal
[09:21] <slashx1896> ?
[09:22] <topyli> rhoffa: shouldn't be visible to users yet IMO
[09:22] <dougsk> slashx1896, are you using xone or gstreamer, if you don't know what that means your using gstreamer
[09:22] <dougsk> s/xone/xine
[09:22] <slashx1896> probbaly im new with this i got ubuntu the other day
[09:22] <slashx1896> yesterday
[09:22] <rhoffa> i did th eman chmod
[09:22] <cYcLoNeZz> !tell mp3 to slashx1896
[09:22] <polpak> cYcLoNeZz,  has a lot of kde deps.. I'm running a gnome based system
[09:22] <rhoffa> i dont know what to do do now though
[09:22] <dougsk> slashx1896, okay to play mp3's I think you should visit the restricted formats wiki page
[09:22] <cYcLoNeZz> !mp3
[09:22] <dougsk> !RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats.
[09:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:23] <polpak> cYcLoNeZz, any alternatives, or should I just grin and bear it?
[09:23] <cYcLoNeZz> polpak k3bis as good as or better than nero ...
[09:23] <giany911> how can i see the modules loaded ?
[09:23] <polpak> cYcLoNeZz, k
[09:23] <polpak> cYcLoNeZz, thx
[09:23] <rhoffa> what do i do after man chmod
[09:23] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa you read the screen :P
[09:23] <polpak> rhoffa, ready it
[09:24] <dougsk> slashx1896, afterwards, in case it doesn't mention it you'll need to use the gst-register-0.8 command to tell gstreamer about all your new codecs
[09:24] <rhoffa> i did
[09:24] <polpak> rhoffa, read rather
[09:24] <lampshade> giany911: lsmod
[09:24] <giany911> k
[09:24] <rhoffa> i read it but it doesnt tell me to do anything
[09:24] <cYcLoNeZz> dougsk if he install gstream from synaptic he will not have to do any typing .. he can just play
[09:24] <dougsk> slashx1896, at whcih point you should be able to import all your mp3's into the rhythmbox library and have tunes
[09:24] <rhoffa> {u} will make it my own
[09:24] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa oh boy .. are you new to linux ?
[09:24] <rhoffa> i dont know i dont get it
[09:24] <rhoffa> yes sir
[09:25] <topyli> rhoffa: you can change the permissions with the file manager too, if you're the owner of those files. otherwise, you need to use sudo to change the permissions / ownership
[09:25] <dougsk> cYcLoNeZz, really?  no kidding no need for the register bit?  cool!
[09:25] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa type this chmod 600 /dir/to/mp3
[09:25] <slashx1896> ok i just installed all the support packages
[09:25] <lampshade> rhoffa:  I've never used that program,  but the locks by the files might mean that you don't have permission ie your current user does not have the rights to mod them  chmod lets you change that.  Also really handy is chown which lets you change ownership
[09:25] <slashx1896> well i did it through terminal its still going
[09:25] <cYcLoNeZz> dougsk nope ... how did you get that register thing btw ? i never heard of it here
[09:26] <rhoffa> i typed that chmod 600... didnt work
[09:26] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa what did you type ?
[09:26] <rhoffa> what you told me
[09:26] <intelikey> ok dmesg now shows the onboard sound 'isapnp: Card 'CS4236  Audio' '   anyone know how to make it work ?
[09:26] <cYcLoNeZz> lol
[09:27] <rhoffa> it said no such file directory
[09:27] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa pls tell me what exactly you typed
[09:27] <slashx1896> dougsk: ok so what do i do after i install all the support packages?
[09:27] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa you got to substitute
[09:27] <dougsk> cYcLoNeZz, I have always done it that way cause it worked for adding new codecs, and I tend to use apt-get isntead of synaptic so maybe  Ishould switch
[09:27] <rhoffa> chmod 600 /dir/to/mp3
[09:27] <cYcLoNeZz> dougsk synaptic is front end of apt-get ... you do not have to register
[09:28] <slashx1896> dougsk: i did as it said type 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg '  in terminal
[09:28] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa you got to sub ..
[09:28] <slashx1896> yay music is workin now
[09:28] <dougsk> cYcLoNeZz, afaik, it's a required step that isn't in the post install script after adding codecs to gstreamer, but I could be wrong
[09:28] <rhoffa> what mp3 for where my fiels are?
[09:28] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa you do know where your files are right ? sorry i got messed up with mp3
[09:28] <rhoffa> that didnt work
[09:29] <rhoffa> there in a file called music on my desktop
[09:29] <cYcLoNeZz> slashx1896 did you go register step ?
[09:29] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa then point to there
[09:30] <intelikey>  there in a file called music  ?????
[09:30] <cYcLoNeZz> intelikey can explain to him ?
[09:30] <cYcLoNeZz> i think he is really lost ...
[09:30] <rhoffa> point there?
[09:30] <intelikey> rhoffa what error you having ?
[09:31] <dougsk> slashx1896, then open a terminal as your user, no sudo, and just type gst-register-0.8
[09:31] <rhoffa> it tell me it cant find the files
[09:31] <rhoffa> i just want to make my files able to be moved
[09:31] <cYcLoNeZz> dougsk he can plsy already ...
[09:31] <cYcLoNeZz> play
[09:31] <rhoffa> i dont want any permissions set i just want them to be normal
[09:31] <dougsk> cYcLoNeZz, my bad
[09:31] <rhoffa> im the only one who uses this computer
[09:32] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa well you want to lose the lock sign on the folder right ?
[09:32] <rhoffa> yes
[09:32] <rhoffa> well not the sign
[09:32] <dougsk> rhoffa, it's unix you must have permissions, no way around it you can give permissions to every one with a chmod -R +rwx on the containing directory
[09:32] <cYcLoNeZz> then ?
[09:32] <rhoffa> i figure the sign means there locked i dont care about it being there i just want to be able to move folders and rename the tags since it would let me before
[09:33] <rhoffa> i want it to be on my ewntire drive
[09:33] <lampshade> I don't have a copy of Ubuntu handy, but can't he right click the folder and just give himself full permissions?  via nautaulussssss(however you spell it)
[09:33] <rhoffa> so what would i type
[09:33] <cYcLoNeZz> rhoffa if you want to rename then you got to have write access ... i assume you can't do anything cause you got no write access
[09:33] <intelikey> rhoffa there is always some premission   even 000 is a permission  (no access)    rhoffa read up on file permissions   in a terminal 'man chmod'  and learn what permissions are.
[09:33] <Madpilot> lampshade: not if it's owned by root for some reason
[09:33] <encompass> hi all
[09:33] <encompass> I am having problems with my video.
[09:33] <rhoffa> i dont understand the file system so i dont knwo what to type to give permission to all folders
[09:34] <Madpilot> rhoffa: right click on the icon, and select "Properties"
[09:34] <rhoffa> /home/rhoffa/Desktop
[09:34] <encompass> I have it install properly, but my video is still slow and choppy
[09:34] <rhoffa> thats where my mp3s are
[09:34] <dougsk> rhoffa, no you dont -- there are files even in windows that do not have permissions like that ntuser.dat %windows%\system\* etc
[09:34] <encompass> it worked fine in debian and not here
[09:34] <encompass> I think it has to do with gstreamer, cause in debian I used xine
[09:34] <encompass> it was the default
[09:34] <rhoffa> well my music is in /home/rhoffa/Desktop
[09:34] <cYcLoNeZz> encompass then install xine
[09:34] <encompass> any selutions?
[09:35] <Madpilot> rhoffa: after you right-click, select the middle tab - Permissions - is the owner the same as your user, or is it root?
[09:35] <encompass> ok
[09:35] <intelikey> rhoffa   'chmod 744 /home/rhoffa/Desktop/* -R
[09:35] <encompass> I shall
[09:35] <rhoffa> power i cant read write and execute
[09:35] <Madpilot> rhoffa: the files show up on your actual desktop, right?
[09:36] <rhoffa> it should be /music
[09:36] <rhoffa> my bad
[09:36] <encompass> lets hope it works
[09:36] <rhoffa> at the end
[09:36] <intelikey> Madpilot good call i was going by what he said not how gnome works...
[09:36] <rhoffa> ok i typed that and it advanced down
[09:36] <rhoffa> now what
[09:36] <encompass> how do I get my new terminal option back when I click on the background?
[09:36] <rhoffa> chmod 744 /home/rhoffa/Desktop/
[09:36] <encompass> I loved it... and now it is gone
[09:37] <Madpilot> rhoffa: if that worked, the lock icon should have been removed - is it?
[09:37] <cYcLoNeZz> encompass how did you changed the terminal background in debian ?
[09:37] <rhoffa> yes thank you
[09:37] <rhoffa> now will all files
[09:37] <rhoffa> i put in there be unlocked?
[09:37] <intelikey> with no star *   and no  -R    hmmm it doesn't do you any good for us to tell you rhoffa, you don't listen.....
[09:37] <encompass> no no I mean to open terminal, I just right clicked and selected open terminal
[09:37] <rhoffa> from now own because i gave my self permission to the direrctory
[09:38] <MickMcMack> Arg, die mick_, die. :(
[09:38] <rhoffa> no i did it with the star
[09:38] <rhoffa> it worked
[09:38] <cYcLoNeZz> encompass you can make short cut on the panel ....
[09:38] <cYcLoNeZz> i thought debian also same
[09:38] <Madpilot> rhoffa: then you should be OK, and you'll be OK in the future
[09:38] <encompass> I suppose
[09:38] <rhoffa> intelikey - thanks
[09:38] <encompass> bummer I can't have it the way I want
[09:38] <intelikey> rhoffa the chmod command only affects the inodes on which it is invoked.   it will not affect future dl's
[09:38] <rhoffa> alright, is there a good tagging software?
[09:38] <Madpilot> rhoffa: EasyTag
[09:39] <lampshade> is there a way to make the desktop open a terminal for you?  like if I double clicked on it?  That would be cool
[09:39] <lampshade> I could dig that
[09:39] <encompass> lampshade: it used to have a rightclick open terminal
[09:39] <rhoffa> because i hate my titles going 01 - xxx - xxxxx
[09:39] <encompass> but gnome, I guess took it out
[09:39] <rhoffa> and i cnat change them from that in rhythmbox
[09:39] <encompass> I am going to gnome to see what they can do for me
[09:39] <rhoffa> like you could in itunes
[09:40] <WildPenguin> encompass, it's in a separate package
[09:40] <Madpilot> rhoffa: open Synaptic and install EasyTag, it's fairly straightforward and powerful
[09:40] <nelposto> humm guys... I'm playing around with the live cd.. is it possible for me to get root access while using it?
[09:41] <dougsk> nelposto, hmm I dunno sudo su maybe?
[09:41] <lampshade> nelposto:  use sudo
[09:41] <nelposto> i'm super n00b
[09:41] <lampshade> firefox 1.5 is coming out today  w00t
[09:41] <intelikey> brb