[00:03] <MHz128> How do I trigger the Dashboard, keyboard or otherwise
[00:06] <Pickaxe> well I "fixed" the problem by setting a blank password for the wallet
[00:07] <Pickaxe> oh well, not that I need a wallet password anyhow.
[00:07] <bobby> wow
[00:07] <bobby> this linux OS even has IRC
[00:07] <bobby> I like this
[00:07] <bobby> screw windows
[00:07] <maco> welcome!
[00:08] <bobby> thank youuu
[00:08] <bobby> sooo is the UK in the house tonight?
[00:09] <bobby> how about Australia?
[00:09] <ikonia> bobby: yes
[00:09] <ikonia> uk
[00:09] <ikonia> why ?
[00:09] <maco> well im sure there are quite a lot of houses in both the uk and australia
[00:09] <bobby> haha english people are funny
[00:10] <bobby> you're airport security thought i was a terrorist
[00:10] <bobby> because I have red hair and I was wearing camoflage
[00:10] <ikonia> bobby: you're aware this is #kubuntu - a suppord discussion channel for kubuntu ?
[00:10] <Tm_T> bobby: please read channel topic (:
[00:10] <ikonia> "support"
[00:10] <bobby> ohhh
[00:10] <bobby> well i wish i knew that before
[00:10] <bobby> had to figure everything out myself
[00:11] <bobby> well im out
[00:56] <rc1> Is it possible to send files with Quassel IRC? I guess not, or maybe I don't see it...
[02:10] <tomdavidson>  I am having a bear of a time finding (or figuring out) a solution. I have many tar arcives in a directory. I want to extract all of them with one command... something like "tar -xvf *" but this is not prober usage.  Any ideas?
[02:17] <Tm_T> tomdavidson: for file in *.tar.bz2 ; do tar -xcf $file ; done
[02:17] <Tm_T> tomdavidson: might do it, might not do it
[02:20] <tomdavidson> thanks Tm_T.  apparently tar deos not take the wildcards the way i wanted. ill look to the scripting. thank you for the direction and fast reply!
[02:22] <tomdavidson> for i in *.tar.gz; do tar xzf $i; done did the job
[02:23] <Tm_T> tomdavidson: great (:
[02:25] <darthanubis> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3109911.0
[03:10] <BluesKaj> hey emma
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> hello
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> I'm having problems removing kde 3.5.10
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> I'm using 4.3
[03:11] <Wolfcastle> specifically ksmserver-kde3 can't be removed
[04:15] <DeAtH_ScYtE> salve
[04:37] <albertolempira> hey guys i'm trying to have sound on multiples apps at the same time with alsa on kubuntu karmic, can anybody help me with this? thanks in advance
[04:48] <CartoonCat> Hellos
[04:49] <CartoonCat> Anyone used xnee? the package installs with no errors, but, always recives bad data from the plugin
[05:02] <heber> hi, does anyone has an acer notebook and has the IR port working?
[05:03] <heber> Im under kubuntu 9.10
[05:10] <aperson> how do I empty the trash on all drives?
[05:48] <Rav3nSw0rd> what a good addressbook utility for kubuntu besides kontact?
[05:50] <Rav3nSw0rd> *what is
[06:22] <dan____> Can someone help me enable the geforce GT 330m on 9.10 64 bit
[06:29] <petsounds> dan____, run  jockey-kde  in terminal?
[06:32] <dan____> petsounds: tried that, lists a driver, can't "activate" it.
[06:32] <dan____> When clicked nothing happens and its greyed out
[06:33] <petsounds> dan____, ok. do you see the recommended driver?
[06:33] <dan____> yeah
[06:34] <dan____> Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 185)
[06:35] <petsounds> dan____, humm.. did you try envyng? but remember it's not supported method
[06:36] <dan____> petsounds: envying?
[06:36] <dan____> I'm not too fimiliar
[06:36] <petsounds> !envyng > dan____
[06:38] <darthanubis> envy is garbage
[06:39] <petsounds> that's why i said it's not supported method ;)
[06:40] <darthanubis> then why even mention that trash
[06:44] <petsounds> i only help ppl based on my experience with having ubuntu problem and envyng once help me to install driver for my video card
[07:46] <darthanubis> !ops
[07:47] <jussi01> darthanubis: ?
[07:47] <bazhang> darthanubis, ?? what's up
[07:47] <darthanubis> Just trying to see what is going on
[07:47] <jussi01> darthanubis: please only use !ops for emergengies
[07:47] <darthanubis> I can read
[07:48] <darthanubis> But could not read it until it appeared thanks
[07:49] <crimsun> you should be able to msg the bot, too
[07:49] <darthanubis> sorry crimsun
[07:49] <darthanubis> I like you always have.
[07:49] <darthanubis> Funny to see you in the kde channel when you work on pulse and pulse does not come standrad in kubuntu
[07:50] <crimsun> darthanubis: I work on audio, which is DE-independent.
[07:50] <darthanubis> ahhh
[07:51] <darthanubis> I had the roughest time getting audio to play from two sources at once in kubuntu
[07:51] <jussi01> darthanubis: have you a current issue that needs sorting?
[07:51] <crimsun> without pulse, I presume?
[07:52] <darthanubis> I added the alsa backports modules package, and the sdl package and I also upgraded alsa to .22 and now it works
[07:52] <darthanubis> but I don't know what exaclt was the fix
[07:52] <crimsun> I don't think the fix was really involved there. Were you having problems with Adobe Flash (presuming that you use Flash)?
[07:52] <darthanubis> I could not repeat the process from a clean install. And I never can get help regarding the matter when it occurs
[07:53] <darthanubis> I use flash, but no, there were no issues with that
[07:53] <darthanubis> I use 64bit flash from Adobe
[07:53] <crimsun> darthanubis: when the issue next occurs, inspect the output from "sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq*"
[07:53] <darthanubis> Flash would be playing, then amarok would start and stop flashes sound
[07:53] <darthanubis> I'll do that
[07:54] <crimsun> darthanubis: if you use a special asoundrc that reroutes pcm.default, that could cause problems.
[07:54] <darthanubis> I don't use a .asoundrc although I tried to do that but it did not help at all
[07:55] <darthanubis> OSSv4 worked ok, but there was no sound from my front panel and gtk-recordmydesktop would not use it
[07:55] <darthanubis> so I went back to alsa
[07:56] <crimsun> barring my actually being online when you have that symptom, I can't really do much else
[07:56] <crimsun> (and since I'm not employed to work on Ubuntu, that can be problematic)
[07:56] <darthanubis> I wonder if ossv4 will ever beccome a viable option in ubuntu. Not default of course, I know we are married to PA, but at least a click or two choice away
[07:56] <crimsun> I suppose you could file a(nother) bug
[07:57] <crimsun> darthanubis: OSSv4 isn't related to PulseAudio
[07:57] <darthanubis> I'm aware of that
[07:57] <crimsun> so why mention them in the same breath?
[07:57] <darthanubis> I meant ubuntu is committed to PA
[07:58] <crimsun> also, Ubuntu isn't going to carry OSSv4 while upstream Linux doesn't
[07:58] <darthanubis> Upstream maay change because of the nature of ossv4 licensing
[07:59] <darthanubis> and I mention many things in the same breathe. Hopefully the proper punctuation will alleviate any misunderstanding?
[07:59] <Tm_T> I hope you can stay on channel topic too (:
[08:00] <darthanubis> we were talking sound, and oss and PA are both sound related,
[08:00] <darthanubis> Tm_T: who are you talking to?
[08:00] <Tm_T> darthanubis: you this time
[08:00] <darthanubis> Tm_T: 3am on a DEAD channel and you are topic police?
[08:01] <darthanubis> When I'm talking about kubuntu sound, totally topic related
[08:01] <crimsun> darthanubis: OSSv4 has had a compatible license for some time
[08:01] <darthanubis> and now it has been amened
[08:01] <darthanubis> I'm not talking about the past
[08:01] <crimsun> darthanubis: it really isn't the license that's at issue; it's 1. technical architecture; 2. maintenance resources
[08:01] <darthanubis> I'm talking present and future
[08:02] <crimsun> darthanubis: there's no need to argue with me about OSSv4; I'm well aware of its merits and drawbacks
[08:02] <Tm_T> darthanubis: crimsun: you can continue licence discussions in -offtopic (:
[08:02] <darthanubis> no one is "arguing" with you
[08:02] <darthanubis> where did that nonsene come from?
[08:03] <crimsun> darthanubis: hmm, you seem to be proposing that OSSv4 be put into Ubuntu
[08:03] <darthanubis> I thought it was a discussion
[08:03] <darthanubis> I have not proposed anything
[08:03] <darthanubis> you've got to be kidding me
[08:03] <crimsun> darthanubis: I'm in #kubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue.
[08:03] <darthanubis> you must be tired man
[08:04] <darthanubis> ok
[08:22] <KARMIC_PS3> hello all ,,,,,,,,,, does anyone know if its possible to use or convert files or software that is for one arch and use it on another (powerpc)
[08:22] <crimsun> well,that would be "porting" (which can be labor-intensive)
[08:23] <KARMIC_PS3> is there programs to help with that and would it be difficult for a mostly noob
[08:24] <KARMIC_PS3> the only thing i need is to get a version of virtual machine working on ppc
[08:26] <KARMIC_PS3> or rather virtual box*
[08:36] <crimsun> might be some work.
[08:42] <papul> can anyone please show me his desktop screenshot?
[08:42] <KARMIC_PS3> well i understand a great deal and im really good at following complex shell directions
[08:44] <crimsun> KARMIC_PS3: have at it, then :)
[08:44] <KARMIC_PS3> what progs would i use
[08:45] <crimsun> an editor, gcc
[08:45] <papul> can anyone please show me his desktop screenshot?
[09:13] <Fox_1_> people I have problem with xrandr. I'm doing this: xrandr --output LCD --mode 1366x768 --output CRT1 --mode 1680x1050 --right-of LCD and everything working except that that the main display becomes the CRT1 (I mean the panel goes to CRT1). How to do that the panels stay in LCD and CRT1 just be as extension?
[09:13] <papul> can anyone please show me his desktop screenshot?
[09:16] <Tm_T> papul: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[09:16] <papul> Tm_T: thanks checking it out
[09:19] <papul> Tm_T: your one is nice but i want to see the default kubuntu desktop
[09:30] <noaXess> good morning..
[09:30] <noaXess> can ark handel rar files?
[09:30] <noaXess> unrar is installed
[09:31] <Fox_1_> yes
[09:35] <noaXess> hm.. but ark won't open the rar archive files.. or if i right click in dolphin an select "Extract Archive here" nothing happends..
[09:36] <noaXess> and if i open one f the rar files in ark, it means: Loading archive...
[09:39] <noaXess> ok.. it seams that the rar files are password protected.. grrr..
[09:40] <jussi01> noaXess: yeah, thats a bug
[09:40] <jussi01> noaXess: you can unrar file.rar
[09:40] <jussi01> iirc
[09:40] <noaXess> jussi01: i see.. then a passwort promt comes up
[09:40] <jussi01> noaXess: I do believe so
[09:41] <jussi01> noaXess: give it a go, if it doesnt work then please let me know
[09:45] <jussi01> noaXess: which version of kubuntu are you using, it seems this bug was fixed some time ago
[09:45] <jussi01> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/kdeutils/+bug/272467
[09:45] <noaXess> jussi01: 9.10
[10:31] <Benkinooby> how can i find out which folder in my homedirectory takes so much space?
[10:32] <Kolia> Benkinooby: filelight
[10:32] <Benkinooby> Kolia: thx
[10:32] <Kolia> run it with sudo I think
[10:47] <Benkinooby> Kolia: works like charm, no sudo needed, thank you :)
[10:58] <KARMIC_PS3> okay kernel question i use synaptics to update the kernel to version ?.?.?.17 but should it be removing previous versions cause it still has ver  ?.?.?.16 - ?.?.?.13 .... is that right
[10:59] <EagleScreen> hi KARMIC_PS3
[10:59] <KARMIC_PS3> hi
[10:59] <EagleScreen> synaptic is not the same than synaptics
[11:00] <KARMIC_PS3> its synaptic not +s my fault
[11:00] <EagleScreen> synaptics is a touchpad driver
[11:00] <KARMIC_PS3> yeah yeah
[11:01] <EagleScreen> not all old kernels are removed when updates
[11:01] <KARMIC_PS3> i think faster than i can type
[11:02] <KARMIC_PS3> okay so they should all still be listed as installed after the update than right
[11:03] <EagleScreen> in threory, remove of old kernel was a new feature in karmic
[11:03] <EagleScreen> but not all of them, always is good to keep ono or two old kernels
[11:03] <EagleScreen> i am not usre if that feature was finally implemented
[11:04] <KARMIC_PS3> ok but will it effect my comp negatively to have more than one version will it confuse my sys
[11:05] <EagleScreen> no, the single problem may be the disk space wasted by old kernels
[11:06] <KARMIC_PS3> ok thats not the prob than so is there a program in linux for doing what defrag does in windows ..... see i got plenty of hdd space but my sys does not move as fast as when i installed it
[11:08] <EagleScreen> ext3 or ext4 filesystems don't need defrag
[11:09] <KARMIC_PS3> ok ??? so what could cause the slow down
[11:17] <EagleScreen> good question KARMIC_PS3
[11:18] <KARMIC_PS3> ---|_---I---I\I---|_|---><---   ................yeah i dont understand
[11:19] <KARMIC_PS3> |_---I---I\I---|_|---><      that should be my screen name
[11:34] <Spaceman> how do you kill krandrtray, it always runs at boot?
[11:34] <Spaceman> using kubuntu 9.10 with kde3
[11:58] <Guest41226> now install "blue air final' kubuntu 9.10
[12:36] <17SAACSFJ> hy everybody
[12:36] <nad> hello guys
[12:36] <nad> how do I  install tar.gz
[12:37] <nad> I just downloaded firefox
[12:37] <Peace-> nad: you don't need to download firefox
[12:37] <Peace-> nad: just install it with kpackagekit
[12:37] <Peace-> or in a terminal
[12:37] <nad> can any one help me
[12:38] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:38] <Peace-> that's all
[12:38] <nad> I downloaded firefox tar.gz2
[12:38] <Peace-> nad: that is not firefox for noob that should be compiled ... kubuntu has already firefox in its repository
[12:39] <Peace-> nad: open a terminal
[12:39] <nad> now how can I install with a short cut
[12:39] <Peace-> nad:  and type this
[12:39] <Peace-> nad: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:39] <nad> latest is 3.6
[12:39] <Peace-> nad: keep the repository version.
[12:39] <nad> ternimal has 3.0
[12:40] <nad> okey I am using it now
[12:40] <nad> but I want it to be like a normal soft with a short cut
[12:41] <Peace-> what do you mean with shortcut
[12:41] <Peace-> firefox has already a shortcut
[12:41] <nad> its in a folder
[12:42] <Peace-> examplain better
[12:42] <Peace-> explain better
[12:42] <nad> tar.gz is like zip
[12:42] <nad> so I unziped it in a folder
[12:43] <Peace-> that firefox is not compiled
[12:43] <nad> and that is where its runing
[12:43] <nad> so what can I do
[12:43] <nowth> Peace: the firefox .tar.gz does contain a runnable firefox, no compilation needed
[12:43] <Peace-> nowth: oh a binary
[12:43] <Peace-> well
[12:44]  * Peace- doesn't use firefox..
[12:44] <nad> what do you mean
[12:45] <Peace-> nad: nevermind
[12:45] <Peace-> put that folder where you want and create a launcher
[12:45] <Peace-> that's all
[12:45] <nowth> nad: I'd do as Peace said and install the firefox package from the repositories, although you can also move the firefox folder to /opt, create a symlink to it in /usr/local/bin, and add it to the k-menu with kmenuedit...
[12:45] <nowth> (for example. you can move it anywhere you want, really.)
[12:50] <tertitten> on kubuntu 9.10 are there any easy way to update to firefox3.6 ? I found a few repos however have no idea wich one to use
[12:51] <nad> where does ubuntu stores all program files
[12:51] <Vroomfondle> usually /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[12:52] <nowth> some in /bin, some in /sbin, most in /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin is more like stuff you added yourself
[12:52] <delight> nad:  you can check any installed package by "dpkg -L packagename"
[12:52] <nad> how about etc
[12:53] <Vroomfondle> tertitten: I use deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[12:53] <delight> etc is just for config
[12:53] <ner0x> Is the setting to change KDMs theme broken?
[12:53] <tertitten> Vroomfondle: thanks a bunch :)
[12:56] <tertitten> In KDE4 RC 2 does anyone know how to fix the nepomuk error ? do I need som daemon or something install ?
[12:57] <nowth> tertitten, have you installed virtuoso yet
[12:57] <tertitten> nowth: nope, don't think so..
[12:57] <nowth> install virtuoso-drivers and virtuoso-server
[12:58] <nowth> although... I still couldn't get a working Nepomuk search the one time I tried
[12:58] <nowth> but at least it made it start up
[12:58] <tertitten> ok, wierd
[12:58] <tertitten> :)
[13:00] <bottiger> does someone know if a "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405  @ 2.00GHz" is 32 or 64 bit?
[13:02] <nad> why cant I move folder
[13:02] <nad> access denied
[13:03] <nad> I want to move to /opt
[13:08] <nad> how can I move folder
[13:09] <petsounds> nad, kdesudo dolphin
[13:31] <host_> ola
[13:54] <[-Haza-]> genii: Ping
[14:03] <vadviktor> bottiger: if u r still here, try the lshw command. It gives a wider range of hardware info.
[14:26] <lynx_r> hi all, i can't mount usb hdd :( i have this messages in /var/log/messages reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[14:27] <lynx_r> i tried to unload module ehci_hcd but it doesn't exist
[14:32] <JDahl> how do I access a network folder (in this case an 'ssh folder') from a terminal? in Gnome the virtual folders were mapped to ~/.gvfs, but I haven't found an alternative in KDE
[14:44] <genii> JDahl: make sure sshfs package is installed, then syntax is like: sshfs remote-user@remote.server:/remote/directory /local/mountpoint
[14:45] <JDahl> genii, thanks - great!
[14:50] <superpeppe> ciao
[14:50] <superpeppe> !lista
[14:51] <tertitten> kde4 rc2 is to unstable :)
[14:52] <Malin_> kde4.4?
[14:53] <tertitten> Malin_: kde 4.3.95 as in kde 4.4
[14:53] <tertitten> :)
[14:53] <Malin_> aha :)
[14:53] <tertitten> 4.3.98 runs a bit more stable on opensuse
[14:53] <Tm_T> tertitten: most of that unstability is due to Qt
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:01] <Malin_> tertitten: hm.. you make me feel regret for chaning to gnome.... :p
[15:01] <Malin_> or whater the word for angre er :)
[15:10] <lauritz> hi all
[15:14] <JonErik> I'm trying to figure out how to disable network-manager in 9.10.  The procedures I've found by googling seem to be obsolete.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[15:15] <JonErik> There's nothing relevant in /etc/rc2.d, nothing in /etc/dbus-1/event/....  I'm puzzled
[15:18] <nowth> JonErik, tried /etc/init/network-manager.conf ?
[15:19] <JonErik> hmm
[15:20] <JonErik> I guess I could rename that file, perhaps?
[15:21] <Tm_T> JonErik: you don't want to use networkmanager at all, right?
[15:21] <JonErik> correct
[15:21] <JonErik> but I don't want to remove it, in case I need it later
[15:22] <Tm_T> JonErik: "sudo update-rc.d -f NetworkManager remove"
[15:22] <Tm_T> JonErik: will disable all runtime based initialisations
[15:23] <JonErik> Tim_T: I've tried that, but there is no "NetworkManager" in init.d anymore
[15:23] <Tm_T> ohm...
[15:23] <JonErik> Tm_T: There is a network-manager, though
[15:24] <Tm_T> JonErik: that's it then
[15:24] <JonErik> It's softlinked to /lib/init/upstart-job
[15:25] <Tm_T> oh, right, and I'm not familiar with upstart ):
[15:28] <JonErik> Yeah, so /etc/init/* stuff is for upstart it seems
[15:29] <Tm_T> JonErik: then "sudo update-rc.d -f network-manager remove" should work?
[15:30] <JonErik> Tm_T: I don't think so, upstart apparently starts tasks on its own based on system events.
[15:30] <Tm_T> JonErik: wont hurt trying?
[15:31] <JonErik> Tm_T: The softlink there is so that you can still treat it as if it were still using the init.d system
[15:31] <nowth> network-manager has been converted to an upstart job
[15:31] <JonErik> yeah, so how does one disable upstart jobs?
[15:32] <nowth> I'm still trying to find out myself, but I suppose it editing the file I mentioned would be one way...
[15:32] <JonErik> I've done "chmod 000 network-manager.conf", but I bet that's not the proper way
[15:33] <JonErik> Maybe I comment out the "start on" lines?
[15:33] <JonErik> That would probably work, but again, I don't know if that's the right way
[15:33] <Tm_T> !upstart
[15:34] <Tm_T> JonErik: I wonder if there ^ is some relevant information (:
[15:34] <JonErik> Yeah, I've been digging through that site
[15:34] <Tm_T> that doesn't sound promising =)
[15:35] <JonErik> upstart seem snazzy, so they've got to have come up with a specific, snazzy way to disable services
[15:35] <nowth> haha
[15:36] <JonErik> Some equivalent of chkconfig
[15:36] <JonErik> All I'm finding is gritty details and how to create a new service...
[15:37] <JonErik> I'm gonig to comment the start lines out and see if that works.
[15:38] <JonErik> brb while I try that
[15:42] <JonErik> Yeah, that worked.
[15:42] <JonErik> Doubt it's the right way, but it's not horrible.
[15:43] <JonErik> So, each service in upstart has it's own .conf file.  And the .conf files define the event that will cause the service to go up or down or whatever.
[15:43] <JonErik> So by not defining any events for it to come up, it won't come up.
[15:43] <JonErik> Thanks everyone
[15:44] <nowth> thanks for finding out it worked.
[15:44] <danang> thx u ubuntu
[15:58] <staar2> who likes to help me with KDE error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8794338#post8794338
[16:07] <Guest59661> help
[16:07] <Guest59661> sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[16:07] <Guest59661> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:10] <bobbob1016> I am currently running Gnome, I wanted to install kde4.4rc3 then upgrade it to final tomorrow, I added the ppa beta with "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta" and it installed 4.3.95, that's rc3 right?
[16:11] <gmctyphoon1992> yes
[16:14] <Kolia> bobbob1016: i'd say it's RC2
[16:15] <Kolia> afaik RC3 has not been announced into kubuntu beta
[16:15] <bobbob1016> Kolia, Which repo do I add to get 4.4 tomorrow?
[16:19] <afief> Where are the KDE themes saved
[16:19] <afief> ?
[16:19] <Kolia> bobbob1016: i'm not sure that 4.4.0 will be available in any ppa tomorrow. And i don't know in which one it will end. Just check www.kubuntu.org in the coming days :)
[16:40] <BenPA> hi all ... have a dell 2650 with 512 memory ... I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... should I modify with noapic and what is the correct format
[16:54] <BenPA> hi all ... have a dell 2650 with 512 memory ... I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... any suggestions?
[17:30] <klappi> hm why dont app maximize properly anymore? http://imagebin.org/83903
[17:32] <BluesKaj> klappi, FF is broken after updates on some systems
[17:33] <BenPA> hi all ... have a dell 2650 with 512 memory ... I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... any suggestions?
[17:34] <klappi> BluesKaj: ff is just an example all apps maximize like this now
[17:34] <reesefrancis> if I want to execute a command with crontab which requires a Y/N confirmation, how can I do it?
[17:36] <BluesKaj> klappi, you may need to setup your monitor res and image position ,sacaling etc
[17:36] <BluesKaj> er scaling
[17:40] <buckfast> KDE menus aren't logical, why can I change the monitor power management options in 2 places: first in system settings->power management and second in system settings->Display->power control
[17:41] <buckfast> the settings arent connected I seem to have one settings on on and other settings on other
[17:41] <buckfast> which one does it work by??
[17:42] <buckfast> I'm sorry but this makes no sense whatsoever
[17:57] <shiro_> Hello All
[17:58] <BenPA> hi all ... have a dell 2650 with 512 memory ... I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... any suggestions?
[18:02] <shiro_> I'm having a problem, When I install Banshee and try to play a song with it I always get a redX  to the left of the name of the song, I was told to install gstreamer to get it to work. It worked the first time around, but when I reboot I get redX's to the left of the songs name again, And it kinda works on and off, Is there anyway to fix this problem, Im using Kubuntu 9.10
[18:08] <oxymoron> Whats the most efficient way to reset all applications and core settings without changing my custom/regular apps? :P I dont wanna delete my home-directory, I mean reset everything for /etc, /usr and so on?
[18:18] <avihay_> oxymoron: reinstalation from cd
[18:19] <oxymoron> avihay_: Hehe yeah thats kind of obvious, but If I would like without LiveCD? :P
[18:20] <avihay_> well, you can go for mass removal and re-installation of packages, but you can also make a live disk on key, if you have one with 1GB or more
[18:21] <avihay_> well, I must be off
[18:21] <BluesKaj> !purekde
[18:22] <oxymoron> avihay_: Do you know if there is some kind of application to do that for me? Live disk on key, what do you mean?
[18:24] <oxymoron> BluesKaj: Does any kind of package disappear that I do not wanna change, like for instance KMail, Amarok and apps like that?
[18:26] <rethus1> have install konq-kim, but no contextmenu in konqueror or dolphin appear to resize images
[18:26] <oxymoron> BluesKaj: I would like some kind of system settings resetter that reset to "factory settings" without removing application data and important settings that I want to keep.
[18:27] <BenPA> hi all ... have a dell 2650 with 512 memory ... I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... any suggestions?
[18:33] <BenPA> hi all ... have a dell 2650 with 512 memory ... I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... any suggestions?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> oxymoron, not sure of  a global command that will do that.
[18:35] <shiro_> Hay there evey one I'm Back, And I have more questions. I was use multi-touch on my touchpad in Ubuntu, But I really wanted to use kde, So now Im using kde and I would like to use the multi-touch for my touchpad again. Is there anyway to get it working in Kubuntu?
[18:36] <oxymoron> BluesKaj: Would be nice to have one. Sometimes one package break another and would be nice with some kind of chain resetter. SOmetimes the developers break ALSA for instance and would be nice to rollback or in some way reset settings. Or sometimes you want to get default settings if you somehow mess upp with the settings yourself :P
[18:38] <crimsun> oxymoron: do you have a specific example of the developers breaking ALSA?
[18:38] <BenPA> oxymoron: I agree
[18:39] <BluesKaj> oxymoron, I haven't seen alsa broken yet , there are other audio issues/apps that create problems
[18:39] <oxymoron> crimsun: Uhm I dont remember exactly, but sometimes the sound goes completely of sync, noise or sometimes it does not even work at all together with PulseAudio and Gstreamer :P Not sure exactly why, but I really love music and get very sad when Linux developers break the sound :P
[18:40] <oxymoron> BenPA: :)
[18:40] <crimsun> oxymoron: that isn't an ALSA issue
[18:40] <crimsun> oxymoron: that's a PA issue, and yes, I know about it. Dear goodness do I know about it. Thankfully, it's nearly all resolved in Lucid.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> now comes the test , will my pc reboot into a pure kde environment after all the issues of the lasy few days :P
[18:41] <BenPA> good luck
[18:41] <oxymoron> crimsun, BluesKaj: Alright, maybe another kind of issue, but still :P WOuld be nice if all audio streamers work flawless and if someone does not work Phonon goes to the next one without breaking anything like it has been doing before. One solution before when Spotify on Wine did not work was to completely remove PulseAudio :P
[18:42] <crimsun> oxymoron: yes, that's a problem, and it will have to wait until 10.10 to be resolved.
[18:42] <ionut> how can i login ?
[18:43] <ionut> !ionut msg
[18:43] <ionut> !ionut /msg
[18:43] <oxymoron> crimsun: I am not in a rush, but why 10.10 and not 8.10 for instance? :P I dont demand to rush, the developers does a great job with everything but the sound should in mi opinion ALWAYS work out of the box no matter what :P I am dependent of the sound.
[18:44] <BenPA> crimsun: any idea when the grub ext4 issues will clear up?
[18:44] <ionut> how can i log into this irc with the account i've created ?
[18:44] <crimsun> oxymoron: fixing bugs takes a long time.  I am running kubuntu 9.04. I cannot get kernel 2.6.28-18 to boot only 2.6.27-16. what happens is that I get as far as the Boot from ... Start up screen and it locks ... any suggestions?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, it's not ubuntu or any linux version specific
[18:47] <oxymoron> crimsun: Haha alright, I could imagine :P Isnt it possible to make everything modular and independent then with hybrid protocols. I mean for graphic cards lets say, you make a wrapper which connect thrue ATI or nVIDdia drivers depndning on what card you have or what it support for kind of render, like OpenGL 3.0. WOuld be possible to make transparent protocols so the good hardware, drivers and so on works and if there is some crappy
[18:48] <oxymoron> ones people can devlop the drivers themseves :P
[18:48] <naftilos76> BluesKaj - i know , i am just refering to an app for KDE
[18:48] <BluesKaj> yeah, purekde here ...finally , rid my box of the cartoon characters called gnome
[18:48] <naftilos76> i think partionmanager is the one, right?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> naftilos76, rea it again , it's not desktop specific either
[18:49] <oxymoron> crimsun: If I remember correctly the KDE 4 was completely written from scratch from KDE 3? Would it not be possible to make some kind of hybrid driver wrapper for everything? I still miss support for webcam for instance, even if it really is not an important issue, but still. More and more I feel I can migrate completely from Windows to Kubuntu, but I still miss some things :P
[18:51] <oxymoron> Gone to food, cya soon.
[18:56] <paolo> ciao
[18:58] <aftertaf> hmmmm. just wonering, is there really a major gain in 64bit OS ?
[19:04] <Relander> how do you disable to jumping icon next to your cursor when you start a program?
[19:04] <Relander> i think it's messing my video on dragon player and vlc
[19:04] <aftertaf> launch feedback
[19:04] <aftertaf> in systemsettings
[19:05] <aftertaf> SystemSettings > Desktop
[19:05] <Relander> thanks
[19:11] <ubuntu> hi
[19:12] <linuxlov3r> hi
[19:12] <RaGNORAK> i need help
[19:12] <RaGNORAK> i tried installing kubuntu to my ext hdd
[19:12] <linuxlov3r> RaGNORAK whtat
[19:12] <RaGNORAK> with windows in my main hdd
[19:12] <RaGNORAK> now nothing will boot
[19:12] <RaGNORAK> what do i do >_<
[19:13] <RaGNORAK> if i select the ext hdd as the first boot device then nothing happens
[19:14] <RaGNORAK> if i select my main hdd as the first boot deviice then the grub loader says no such disk
[19:14] <RaGNORAK> HELP
[19:14] <RaGNORAK> somebody?
[19:15] <RaGNORAK> heloooooo
[19:26] <KDesk> hi
[19:31] <BenPA> hi all
[19:32] <BenPA> can anyone help me with a grub issue in kubuntu?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> grub2 or old grub (legacy) ?
[19:36] <BenPA> BlueKaj: I am not sure which is which but I think it is legacy
[19:37] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I am not sure which is which but I think it is legacy ... sorry missed the s
[19:37] <BluesKaj> which kubunu version BenPA ?
[19:37] <BenPA> BluesKaj: 9.04
[19:38] <m_> hallo
[19:41] <BluesKaj> BenPA, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/grub/menu.lst
[19:42] <BenPA> BluesKaj: do you want me to modify something or just look at it?
[19:42] <vbgunz> I just install kmformat through apt-get... where the hell is it?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> pastebin it , BenPA
[19:43] <BenPA> BluesKaj: it's on another computer lol
[19:43] <BenPA> hold a sec
[19:44] <vbgunz> holy cow. what am I supposed to launch after installing kmformat?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> sry BenPA , i shoyld have asked you first
[19:45] <BluesKaj> BenPA, I'm gonna switch to my laptop...bbiab
[19:45] <BenPA> BluesKaj: there is nothing in that file ... it is in .... /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:48] <vbgunz> seriously. I just installed kmformat through apt-get. it is not known as kmformat anywhere in the system. it installed successfully and has disappeard. how do I find this thing??
[19:51] <vbgunz> forget it, gparted does the trick, at least I can find it
[19:54] <BluesKaj> ok BenPA, i'm back.
[19:55] <otswim> hello, does someone know an app to retrieve a pdf from google books?
[19:55] <BenPA> BluesKaj: there is nothing in that file ... it is in .... /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:57] <BluesKaj> right, haven't used that file for a while
[19:57] <EagleScreen> BenPA: using karmic?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> BenPA, can you pastebin it ?
[19:58] <BenPA> BluesKaj: which one is karmic
[19:58] <BluesKaj> 9.10
[19:58] <Chr|s> Just did a clean install of Kubuntu 9.10, went to go enable the propretary drivers to be installed for my ATI graphics card and it greys out? Any ideas? Nothing happens
[19:58] <BluesKaj> you have jaunty  9.04
[19:59] <BenPA> BluesKaj: the pastebin is .... http://pastebin.com/m511a7c1c
[19:59] <BenPA> BluesKaj: no I am using 9.04 ... the machine will not upgrade to 9.10
[20:00] <Chr|s> odd now its working o.0
[20:00] <Flutiju`> Hi, is-there a nfs/mount expert here ? ^^
[20:01] <BluesKaj> BenPA, first of all at line 23 put a# in front of hiddenmenu, that's why you aren't getting grub to come up
[20:01] <BluesKaj> it's hiding the menu
[20:03] <BluesKaj> BenPA, and you might want toincrease your timeout on line 19, to 5 or 6 (secs)
[20:03] <BenPA> BluesKaj: hold a sec I think I did something wrong
[20:05] <BluesKaj> BenPA, that will give you chance to choose a diff kernel in case of probs
[20:06] <KDesk> in karmic with the ppa for kde 4.4rc, when I logout, the network manager (I think the applet) crashes, some one has the same problem?
[20:07] <EagleScreen> KDesk: I had the same problem
[20:07] <ToxinPowe> it's a buh
[20:07] <ToxinPowe> bug*
[20:07] <KDesk> EagleScreen: you have that bug no more?
[20:08] <BenPA> BluesKaj: hold a sec I think I did something wrong
[20:08] <BluesKaj> KDesk, mn in karmic is rather flaky, that's why i switched to wicd
[20:08] <EagleScreen> KDesk: i uninstalled KDE 4.4 and reinstalled KDE 4.3, after that, wireless never worked again
[20:08] <BluesKaj> BenPA, like ?
[20:08] <BenPA> BluesKaj: there were 2 files one I think was a backup
[20:09] <BluesKaj> BenPA, rename the old file to a .bak
[20:09] <BenPA> BluesKaj: the new pastebin is .... http://pastebin.com/m63d88b9b
[20:10] <BenPA> BluesKaj: one file had a tilde and the other did not
[20:10] <BenPA> BluesKaj: the new pastebin does not have it
[20:12] <BluesKaj> BenPA, anyway do the same things that i suggested.
[20:12] <BenPA> BluesKaj: done
[20:12] <BluesKaj> line 23 starts with a #, and increase yor time out on line 19 to 6
[20:13] <BluesKaj> save the file , and do update-grub in the terminal
[20:13] <BenPA> BluesKaj: done
[20:14] <KDesk> BluesKaj: EagleScreen odd, lets see if tomorrow when KDE 4.4 is release this problems are gone
[20:14] <EagleScreen> KDesk: I have fear to install it again lol
[20:14] <BluesKaj> your grub menu list should show up when you reboot, BenPA
[20:15] <BenPA> BluesKaj: rebooting now
[20:16] <BluesKaj> ok , going to check the post box down the street ...bbin 5mins
[20:16] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok the menu shows up but it still hangs
[20:16] <KDesk> EagleScreen: but the wireless can work again
[20:17] <EagleScreen> yes, in threory
[20:21] <KDesk> EagleScreen:  you can try to install network-manager-kde plasma-widget-networkmanagement knm-runtime version  0.9~svn1075616 from lucid repo
[20:23] <EagleScreen> KDesk: that was not the problem, wireless didn't work with karmic packages, neither with Gnome and Gnome network-manager applet, it was really stranger
[20:24] <EagleScreen> i never find where the problem was
[20:25] <oxymoron> KDesk: Btw, do you know why version 4.4 RC 3 never was compiled to Kubuntu Karmic? :P
[20:25] <BluesKaj> BenPA, did this prob arise after an update ?
[20:26] <BenPA> BluesKaj: yes
[20:26] <buckfast> How can I make the task bar transparent again? It turned into grey when i disabled and re-enabled desktop effects
[20:26] <BluesKaj> what graphics card do you have BenPA?\
[20:27] <BenPA> BluesKaj: in fact the update before this one ... I could under the first update boot to 2.6.28-17 not only 28-16
[20:27] <nad> hello guys
[20:27] <BenPA> BluesKaj: let me find it
[20:27] <ToxinPowe> oxymoron: never compiled? nice! I had been waiting for 1 week -.-
[20:27] <nad> can anyone help me in through the process of tar.gz installation
[20:27] <EagleScreen> oxymoron: because is better to wait to 4.4.0
[20:28] <nad> hello
[20:28] <nad> can anyone help me in through the process of tar.gz installation
[20:28] <nad> can anyone help me through the process of tar.gz installation
[20:29] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I forget how to find it
[20:29] <oxymoron> EagleScreen: Yes, but would be nice because KDE released a RC 3 which possible would solve some of current problems with KDE 4.4. But yes of course the stable release is to prefer, but I think it is "fun" with unstable releases :P
[20:29] <oxymoron> ToxinPowe: Waiting for RC3? :P
[20:29] <Chr|s>     vlc media player isn't in kpackagekit?
[20:30] <nad> can anyone help me through the process of tar.gz installation
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !tar.gz
[20:31] <EagleScreen> oxymoron: 4.4.0 packages are in preparation, so be patient we will have them soon
[20:32] <lacomedia> DarkSin
[20:32] <Lynoure> Hello, I have a problem. Sounds work fine in Amarok, for example, and in Miro, but not in Dragon player
[20:32] <ToxinPowe> oxymoron: Yes, I'm stupid, I can see now -.-
[20:32] <Lynoure> and a DVD without a sound is a bit of a bore.
[20:32] <Lynoure> What can I do?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Lynoure, try VLC
[20:33] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: hmm, is this a known bug in Dragon, then?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> dunno, i don't use it
[20:33] <oxymoron> EagleScreen: I am not in a hurry though, my patience is greater then ever - Especially when HTC does not work enough fast to port Android 2.1 to their Sense GUI :D
[20:34] <BenPA> BluesKaj: nVidia NV11 GeForce2 Go
[20:34] <oxymoron> ToxinPowe: Hehe :P
[20:34] <oxymoron> EagleScreen: What time approximetly does the 4.4 stable goes in public? :P
[20:35] <pidusad> i have a capture/uncaputre entry in kmix for extmic. I think my mic used to work before I selected capture on that extmic, unfortunately clicking on it to uncapture doesn't work. does anybody know a work around for it?
[20:35] <Flutiju`> Hi, is-it possible to automount a nfs share at boot ?
[20:35] <EagleScreen> oxymoron: it could be tomorrow
[20:36] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: yes, by putting it in /etc/fstab
[20:36] <Flutiju`> Yeah, but it doesn't work
[20:36] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: then there is probably something wrong with how it's configured.
[20:36] <Flutiju`> Here's the line : <IP_ADDRESS>:/nfs/public /media/STORAGE nfs user,rw,auto 0 0
[20:36] <oxymoron> EagleScreen: Yeah I expect it to release 9 february xD I mean, which time during the ninth? :P
[20:37] <Flutiju`> And if I do mount /media/STORAGE manually after startup, it works, so I guess yhe line is OK
[20:38] <pidusad> another simpler question is...is what application should I use to check my mic, other than skype, which obviously is a lousy means of checking whether your mic is working or not.
[20:39] <nad> what is the best download manager for ubuntu
[20:39] <BluesKaj> BenPA, are you sure ? run lspci | grep VGA in the terminal. There doesn't seem to be an available driver for the one you posted
[20:40] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: the difference is probably in the user who does the mounting
[20:40] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: you when you call it, root in auto.
[20:40] <Flutiju`> Hmmm good call, i'll try to remove 'user'
[20:41] <oxymoron> nad: Define download manager? :P
[20:41] <BenPA> BluesKaj: that's what I show
[20:42] <oxymoron> Btw, does anyone miss the old Adept Frontend like I do? :P I dont like the GUI that KPackageKit uses now, its not working smoothly or comfortable as before.
[20:43] <nad> some thing that would enable me to pause
[20:43] <nad> downloads
[20:43] <BenPA> BluesKaj: could there be a setting or something I need to adjust under NVIDIA X server settings?
[20:43] <nad> download vidoes
[20:44] <nad> btw is there any one here who uses blender
[20:45] <Flutiju`> Lynoure : same problem :(
[20:46] <BluesKaj> BenPA, let's try updating again , ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 , then login, sudo aptitude update
[20:46] <nad> my windows is still the best after all
[20:47] <oxymoron> nad: Kget? :P Or Firefox? xD
[20:47] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I note under Graphics Card info the setting are as follows: Graphics Processor-GeForce2 Go .. VBIOS Version-<IP_ADDRESS>.a8 .. Memory-16 MB .. Bus Type-AGP 4X .. Bus ID-1:0:0 IRQ-10 X Screens Screen 0 .. Display Devices-Nvidia Default Flat Panel (DFP-0)
[20:48] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok one sec
[20:48] <SeicherlBoB> is there a way to "ping" a sambaserver? I'd like to check if it is available (from outside the network). I need a CLI program for that, because i'd like to make a script using that information. I tried telnet, but telnet hangs if i try to connect to a closed port and i can't set a timeout. Any ideas?
[20:49] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: I mostly came here to get my own problem sorted, but if you are not yet familiar with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo , take a look there. I personally dislike NFS...
[20:49] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok done
[20:50] <Flutiju`> Mount at startup
[20:50] <Flutiju`> NFS mounts can either be automatically mounted when accessed using autofs or can be setup with static mounts using entries in /etc/fstab.
[20:51] <Flutiju`> Lynoure : Ok, so it's not possible using fstab… thank you
[20:51] <BluesKaj> BenPA, maybe we could try to install a more recent driver ,first stop X , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, then,  sudo aptitude install nvidia-current
[20:51] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: hmm, not possible?
[20:52] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok one sec
[20:52] <Flutiju`> Lynoure : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Mount at startup
[20:52] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: I've seen it done, so unless your setup is somehow exotic... " can be setup with static mounts using entries in /etc/fstab"
[20:54] <Flutiju`> Yes, i'll do a tiny script in Autostart I guess
[20:54] <nad> has any one installed google chrome yet
[20:54] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I stopped kdm but got no prompt
[20:54] <Lynoure> Flutiju`: if that feels easier for you.
[20:58] <BluesKaj> BenPA, looks like you have no driver installed, rebooting and installing the nvidi=-glx-185 driver might be in order
[20:58] <SeicherlBoB> ok... found it: nmblookup -A <IP_ADDRESS> | grep -c "No reply"
[20:58] <BluesKaj> er nvidia-glx-185
[21:02] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok I see 180 but not 185
[21:02] <BluesKaj> BenPA, ok either one should work
[21:03] <BluesKaj> 180 it is then
[21:05] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok one sec
[21:09] <BenPA> BluesKaj: once it's done is there anything else I need to do?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> yes BenPA , do sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:11] <BluesKaj> then reboot and pray :)
[21:11] <BenPA> BluesKaj: lol I'm already having problems ... hold a sec
[21:11] <BluesKaj> sudo reboot
[21:12] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok one sec
[21:20] <BenPA> BluesKaj: wierd
[21:22] <BluesKaj> BenPA, i don't like weird, what's happening?
[21:22] <BenPA> BluesKaj: it goes into a low graphics mode
[21:22] <BenPA> BluesKaj: then ask how I want to reconfigure my display
[21:23] <BenPA> BluesKaj: use default ... new config ... or use backup
[21:23] <BenPA> BluesKaj: use default (generic)... new config ... or use backup
[21:23] <BluesKaj> BenPA, new config , it might not work tho
[21:24] <BluesKaj> I had the same problem, after reboot it was fine
[21:24] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok one sec
[21:25] <KDesk> someone knows when Qt 4.6.1 will be available in the ppa for Karmic?
[21:28] <BenPA> BluesKaj: it says running in low-graphics mode ... (EE) failed to load module type 1 (module does not exist, 0) 2. (EE) failed to load module "freetype" ... module does not exist 0 and 3. No devices detected
[21:29] <BluesKaj> BenPA, try the low graphics mode for now , we need to do some more research..I'll bb in a bit
[21:29] <miglo> does someone know where the kde wallpapers are located?
[21:29] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I used the backup
[21:30] <pangeran> miglo: $HOME/.kde/share/wallpapers
[21:31] <BluesKaj> BenPA, let's hope the bsckup works
[21:31] <miglo> pangeran: this 'wallpapers' directory is not existing in my case. I'm looking for the default wallpapers.
[21:32] <tsimpson> have a look in /usr/share/wallpapers/
[21:34] <miglo> thanks :)
[21:34] <BenPA> BluesKaj: It did before we tried the new config
[21:34] <BluesKaj> BenPA, let's try this if you have the patience for another go-round at the tty prompt, i was advised that the nvidia-nouveau driver will work
[21:35] <BenPA> BluesKaj: sure I do
[21:36] <BluesKaj> BenPA, do you have a desktop , were you able to login?
[21:42] <BenPA> BluesKaj: hold on a sec
[21:43] <Chr|s> for some reason I can't browse to my external drive
[21:46] <Chr|s> you would think something like this would be working on a clean install, unfortunally it is not
[21:51] <BluesKaj> BenPA, the nouveau driver may not be available in the repos so I was told the nvidia-glx-96 driver is best suited for your graphics card
[21:52] <BenPA> BluesKaj: that's what I am doing now
[21:53] <BenPA> BluesKaj: hold on a sec
[21:55] <BenPA> BluesKaj: can I get the nouveau some other way
[21:55] <vi390> hi, can someone maybe give a hint, why Firefox is completely black in the textboxes. I cant find a way to turn this into white
[21:59] <BenPA> BluesKaj: wierd
[22:04] <javi> hola
[22:04] <BluesKaj> BenPA, pls expain
[22:05] <KARMIC_PS3> hello
[22:05] <BenPA> BluesKaj: nothing ... so how do I get my graphics back
[22:05] <KARMIC_PS3> anyone know of a messenger able to do yahoo messaging
[22:05] <BenPA> BluesKaj: it will not run in low graphics mode
[22:06] <BenPA> :(
[22:06] <KARMIC_PS3> what kinda sys you running
[22:08] <BenPA> BluesKaj: wait
[22:08] <KARMIC_PS3> i have tried sim-im but it fails to connect to network
[22:09] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I got desktop back
[22:09] <KARMIC_PS3> good
[22:10] <BluesKaj> ok BenPA open your package manager and check search with nvidia for the installed driver
[22:11] <BluesKaj> we need to knwo which one
[22:14] <BluesKaj> it will probly look like nvidia-glx-180 or some such
[22:16] <BenPA> BluesKaj: wait
[22:27] <BluesKaj> BenPA, in the terminal, nvidia-settings
[22:28] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok 1 sec trying to get desktop back
[22:28] <KARMIC_PS3> is there a channel to ask questions about flashing xbox360 harddrives
[22:29] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I cannot get to a terminal
[22:29] <BluesKaj> BenPA, alt+ctrl+f2
[22:30] <KARMIC_PS3> and also im having a wierd problem with my pc i cant connect to this one web site  game-tuts.com  from my pc but i can get there from my ps3 and my friends laptop just fine
[22:31] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I cannot get to a terminal nor the desktop
[22:33] <BenPA> BluesKaj: wait I got it back
[22:35] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok what do you want to know
[22:36] <BluesKaj> open a terminal , nvidia-settings
[22:36] <BenPA> BluesKaj: I did
[22:36] <BluesKaj> and?
[22:37] <BenPA> BluesKaj: It shows a very sparse settings screen with one configuration
[22:39] <BenPA> BluesKaj: should I say "save current configuration"?
[22:39] <BluesKaj> do an update
[22:40] <BenPA> BluesKaj: when I did that last time it started doing the 180 ... is that correct and should I use aptitude or can I use apt-get or smart?
[22:41] <Crystufer> So I just installed kubuntu and it won't boot because there is no menu.lst
[22:42] <Crystufer> Ideas?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> apt-get is fine , but if you see it installing the 180, after it finishes , sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-180, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96
[22:43] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok one sec
[22:46] <BenPA> BluesKaj: it says glx-96 is already installed
[22:53] <BluesKaj> ok, BenPA , so your update didn't install any nvidia ?  , if not a nvidi-xconfig in the terminal just tobe sure X is updated
[22:54] <BluesKaj> err nvidia-xconfig
[22:55] <BluesKaj> I mean Xorg.conf is updated
[22:55] <BenPA> BluesKaj: no it did not install anything and said that glx-96 was installed
[22:55] <BluesKaj> ok ,
[22:56] <BenPA> BluesKaj: let me try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:56] <BluesKaj> BenPA, right
[22:57] <BenPA> BluesKaj: says backed up
[22:59] <Crystufer> Yo. What's the default kernel that ships with kubuntu 9.1?
[22:59] <Crystufer> Like the file name.
[23:00] <BluesKaj> BenPA, are your apps working ok ?
[23:00] <Crystufer> I need it to plug into http://paste.ubuntu.com/372095/
[23:01] <BenPA> BluesKaj: they were ... I just rebooted and it says "running in low-graphics mode" once again (sigh)
[23:01] <WierdAAR> Anybody wiling to answer a couple of questions for a linux newcommer?
[23:02] <Crystufer> Never ask. Just post questions.
[23:02] <BenPA> BluesKaj: error msgs include failed to load NVIDIA kernel module
[23:02] <BenPA> BluesKaj: also no usable configuration
[23:03] <WierdAAR> Does Kubuntu require mantinense and if how?  It seems to me that my system has become slower after a couble of days of use (installing packeges but other than that mostly nothing)
[23:05] <Crystufer> WierdAAR: I'm afraid that's how OS's are. They like to slow down after a bit. Especially once you install more system hogging apps.
[23:06] <Crystufer> As for what maintenance you can do, I got no clue. #ubuntu has more peeps on atm though.
[23:07] <BluesKaj> BenPA, the only thing left to do IMO is to reinstall to your / partition using the manual partitoning option, without formatting. This method will save your data and app config files . sorry but this is my best suggestion
[23:07] <WierdAAR> Crystufer: Well I figures as muched. I was wondering, I have installed a couble of programs through tarballs. Does that create temporary data that hoogs the system if you don't remove them?
[23:08] <BenPA> BluesKaj: the funny part is that I had to install 8.10 then upgrade to 9.04 ... I could not directly update ... well, thanks for the help ... what do you think about modifying boot kernel to include noapic?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> BenPA, I've heard ppl suggest noapic , but unfortunately i'm not familiar with it's results
[23:11] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok
[23:13] <BluesKaj> BenPA, noapic might work, i just never had any experience with it
[23:13] <BenPA> BluesKaj: ok
[23:25] <BluesKaj> gotta go
[23:32] <kayna> hola a todos


[21:40] <nhaines> I am sad that I am leaving Germany tomorrow.
[21:40] <nhaines> Granted, most of that sadness is the fact that I need to pack in like 5 more minutes....


[11:19] <freeflying> hi, dose anyone get psb driver with jaunty?
[11:45] <Murphy1> HI PPL
[12:35] <lool> freeflying: It will probably be made available in a PPA some time after release
[13:19] <netbook-one> wurde gerade gebeten den Nicknamen zu registrieren, was hat das auf sich. Ist das zwingend nötig?
[14:24] <lool> netbook-one: I'm afraid this is an English speaking channel
[14:24] <lool> netbook-one: Nickname registration is required for private queries at least
[14:44] <netbook-one> ahh for private queries at least.  :-)
[15:00] <freeflying> lool: I see, thanks
[18:15] <Tarzan^> http://www.scribd.com/doc/14385822/Full-Circle-Magazine-23


[05:27] <pitti> Good morning
[06:06] <dkessel> good morning
[08:19] <jibel> Good morning
[08:21] <jibel> pitti, I found another case where britney fails. This is when binaries are available for 1 arch only and FTBFS on another arch e.g mongodb
[08:22] <jibel> pitti, in this case adt installs the right version of the source package but the wrong version of the binaries
[08:23] <jibel> pitti, do you think it's something we should enforce in autopkgtest or at the interface level?
[08:23] <DanChapman> good morning
[08:24] <pitti> jibel: I believe britney should either not call adt until all arches have built, or at least not call tests on an arch if binaries on that arch are uninstallable
[08:27] <jibel> pitti, agreed, but it would introduce lot a delays if it waits for slow architectures and it request a test for a source package not per architecture. But it could at least wait until intel archs are built since that's what we are testing.
[08:35] <pitti> jibel: right, that sounds like a good enough compromise (and s/built/published/)
[08:36] <jibel> pitti, there is an ADT_ARCHES in britney.conf but it doesn't seem to be used anywhere
[08:36] <jibel> pitti, so britney wait until ADT_ARCHES are published
[08:37] <jibel> in any case if I introduce a wait, it must have a notion of timeout otherwise it'll wait forever
[08:38] <pitti> jibel: doesn't britney run on every publisher cycle anyway?
[08:38] <jibel> pitti, it does
[08:38] <pitti> jibel: couldn't that trigger the tests based on binary availability, not source availability?
[08:39] <pitti> or is that too complicated?
[08:41] <jibel> pitti, if we trigger per arch it will introduce other cases, like running a test on amd64 when common packages built with i386 are not yet published.
[08:41] <jibel> it would very likely fail but that makes a test cycle for nothing
[08:41] <pitti> right
[08:42] <pitti> in our initial discussion we actually agreed to run the tests after the installability checks, and don't trigger tests on uninstallable packages (as they are guaranteed to fail)
[08:42] <jibel> yes
[08:42] <pitti> and right now we don't seem to re-trigger the tests once they become installable
[08:42] <pitti> at least I always do that manually
[08:44] <pitti> jibel: we certainly shouldn't introduce any fixed "waits" into this
[08:44] <pitti> it seems to me, running something like this in every  britney run should work:
[08:44] <pitti> for every source in -proposed:
[08:44] <pitti>   - not built on i386 or amd64 -> stop
[08:45] <pitti>   - any binary uninstallable on any arch -> stop
[08:45] <pitti>   - adt tests already requested -> stop
[08:45] <pitti>   - request adt tests on i386/amd64
[08:45] <pitti> and points 2, 3, 4 for all rdedpens
[08:46] <pitti> jibel: so where would we need another wait?
[08:49] <jibel> pitti, we shouldn't need another wait. But I've seen a recent case where reconciliation of the results for ubiquity fails because the version of cdebconf tested was less than the version requested by britney.
[08:49] <jibel> which shouldn't happen because we use ftpmaster in the lab.
[08:49] <jibel> for the moment, this case remains a mystery
[08:49] <jibel> this is the only case where a wait would help
[08:50] <pitti> jibel: ah, so that's only for mirror delays, not build times
[08:50] <jibel> pitti, yes, for mirror delays
[08:51] <jibel> pitti, but this 'wait' would have the side effect to wait forever if a test is requested and an arch is never published, so let fix that first
[09:59] <slickymaster> good morning all
[10:33] <dkessel> hello slickymaster
[10:34] <slickymaster> dkessel: hi there, good morning
[10:57] <DanChapman> morning dkessel and slickymaster :-)
[10:58] <slickymaster> DanChapman: and a very good morning to you
[11:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:10] <dkessel> morning davmor2
[14:20] <DanChapman> xnox, hey. What would be the best way to test the ubiquity U1 page? Is there dummy accounts that can be used or is there someone else i should speak to about it? Atm its just selecting login later
[14:20] <DanChapman> but would like to be able to test this page as well
[14:31] <elopio> good morning qa team.
[14:31] <DanChapman> morning elopio
[14:41] <xnox> DanChapman: i think it's best to leave it at that for now. You can e.g. navigate to new user page, fill out fields and check that "sign up" button gets activates once everything is filled out and check that Terms and conditions & learn more pages open.
[14:42] <xnox> DanChapman: there are no dummy / test accounts at all.
[14:42] <xnox> DanChapman: one can run that page against staging servers, but I didn't implement a way to do that yet.
[14:44] <DanChapman> xnox ok cool, will do that then. Thanks
[16:00] <senan> balloons : I've setup my keys..what should I do now
[16:00] <balloons> senan, :-) Excellent. is bzr setup too?
[16:00] <balloons> if so you should be able to commit your work locally to a bzr branch
[16:00] <balloons> bzr commit should work
[16:00] <DanChapman> hey there senan
[16:00] <balloons> if that all works, then the last step is to push it to launchpad
[16:01] <DanChapman> balloons, thanks for your comments on my wiki page :-)
[16:01] <senan> balloons, I am not sure how to do that
[16:01] <balloons> you can do that with bzr push lp:~yourlpid/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/whatever-you-want-to-call-your-branch
[16:04] <senan_> from where I should do that
[16:04] <senan_> balloons, from which dir i should run that
[16:04] <balloons> senan, do that from the directory where your bzr repo is
[16:04] <balloons> where your source is
[16:04] <balloons> did you setup a repo and commit it?
[16:04] <senan_> ok
[16:05] <senan_> nope
[16:05] <DanChapman> senan first off have you branched ubuntu-autopilot-tests?
[16:05] <balloons> hmm indeed.. DanChapman is on the right track ;-)
[16:05] <senan_> DanChapman, that I did.. I've all the other tests in my directory
[16:05] <balloons> go for it
[16:06] <senan_> DanChapman, like firefox,terminal,eog etc
[16:06] <senan_> DanChapman, in ubuntu-autopilot-tests
[16:07] <DanChapman> senan perfect, so in the /ubuntu-autopilot-tests/* directory run 'bzr add'
[16:07] <DanChapman> which should add your test to the branch
[16:07] <senan_> DanChapman, Done
[16:08] <DanChapman> senan then 'bzr commit' which nano should open
[16:09] <senan_> DanChapman, done.. nano opened
[16:09] <DanChapman> first check your test folder/files are in the list in nano then write a message to sya what the tests are
[16:12] <senan_> DanChapman, Files are there
[16:13] <DanChapman> senan, then once you have saved the message you need to push the branch back to launchpad which balloons showed you before 'bzr push lp:~yourlpid/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/whatever-you-want-to-call-your-branch'
[16:14] <senan_> DanChapan, I didnt understand the part .. write a message
[16:15] <DanChapman> senan_, so in nano write a simple message, something like 'Autopilot test for baobab' just something descriptive to say what it is.
[16:16] <DanChapman> Then hit Ctrl+o then Enter to save it then Ctrl+x to exit nano
[16:18] <senan_> DanChapman, Done :)
[16:21] <senan_> DanChapman,Balloons, how do I check whether new branch is created or not
[16:22] <DanChapman> senan_, https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-autopilot-tests its there now
[16:23] <senan_> DanChapman, whats next ?
[16:25] <DanChapman> senan_, so now you can propose it for merge so open your branch on launchpad and click 'propose for merge'
[16:26] <senan_> DanChapman, OK
[16:27] <senan_> DanChapman, Now you can review it right ?
[16:27] <DanChapman> senan_, then just put a description of the test, what the test covers etc. then click propose
[16:27] <senan_> DanChapman, I didnt put anything :(
[16:28] <senan_> DanChapman, Since it was optional :(
[16:28] <DanChapman> senan_ not to worry. :-)
[16:28] <DanChapman> yes we can review it now :-)
[16:29] <senan_> DanChapman, Thanks :)
[16:35] <balloons> senan, all of your branches will exist here: https://code.launchpad.net/~senan
[16:37] <senan> balloons, ok.. if I change the file, then what should I do
[16:37] <balloons> when you make changes, commit them
[16:37] <balloons> bzr commit
[16:37] <balloons> when you are ready, push all the commits to launchpad again using your push command
[16:38] <senan> balloons, using the same command ?
[16:38] <balloons> bzr push lp:~senan/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/DiskUsageAnalyser
[16:38] <balloons> yep that will put it into the same branch
[16:38] <balloons> so say for instance DanChapman suggests a change, make the change, commit it and push it
[16:38] <balloons> the merge proposal https://code.launchpad.net/~senan/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/DiskUsageAnalyser/+merge/193087 will update and show the new version and he can review it again
[16:39] <balloons> make sense?
[16:39] <senan> balloons, yes
[16:43] <balloons> senan, :-)
[16:43] <balloons> awesome
[16:54] <elopio> balloons: do you know at what time is letozaf usually around?
[16:54] <elopio> I have a problem with the rss tests.
[16:54] <balloons> elopio, about 2 hours
[16:55] <elopio> ok, thanks.
[17:20] <DanChapman> senan_, I have left some comments :-)
[17:21] <senan_> DanChapman, OK, Let me check
[17:22] <senan_> DanChapman, where I can see those comments
[17:26] <DanChapman> senan on  the merge proposal
[17:48] <doug5> balloons, when you have time https://code.launchpad.net/~acerisara/ubuntu-calendar-app/week-view-autopilot
[18:03] <balloons> doug5, got it
[18:05] <doug5> balloons, merci
[18:06] <balloons> doug5, ohh, je parle francais?
[18:06] <balloons> ha.. vous parlez francais.. je suis stupide
[18:06] <doug5> balloons, ehhhhh, I should learn it, since here they speak French, but I'm too lazy... :-)
[18:07] <balloons> ahh.. hehe,laziness indeed
[18:07] <doug5> balloons, yeah :-) and at work I speak English, so I'm not so motivated also...
[20:12] <balloons> doug5, is expected_day_start have to be at 00:00:00
[20:12] <balloons> ?
[20:13] <balloons> that's my only question for your merge
[20:13] <balloons> you do this: expected_day_start = expected_day_start.replace(hour=0, minute=0, second=0, microsecond=0)
[20:14] <doug5> it's because the date we get from the component only has year/month/day (which makes sense), so I strip those informations to compare directly the two dates
[20:34] <balloons> Noskcaj, ping
[20:35] <Noskcaj> hey balloons
[20:35] <balloons> Noskcaj, I was hoping you can solve a packaging riddle
[20:35] <knome> balloons, packaging Riddell?
[20:36] <knome> oh my..
[20:36] <balloons> Noskcaj, mind look looking at lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/emulator-docs-try2 with me?
[20:37] <Noskcaj> if my internet will work long enough, sure
[20:37] <Noskcaj> knome, lol
[20:37]  * balloons <3's knome's oneliners
[20:42] <Noskcaj> balloons, I think that autopilot itself should be a native package too, but the way the integration bot works makes me unsure if that is actually worthwhile
[20:44] <doug5> balloons, thank you for the review
[20:45] <Noskcaj> balloons, It's finally downloaded
[20:45] <balloons> heh
[20:49] <Noskcaj> What did you want me to look at?
[20:49] <balloons> Noskcaj, we get some packaging errors it seems when it's built
[20:49] <balloons> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6326229/
[20:50] <balloons> Noskcaj, I could remove the ubuntu-ui-toolkit-doc.install file I guess.. I'm just wondering what' up
[20:50] <balloons> there's a ubuntu-ui-toolkit-doc packages as part of it.. ideally the new docs I added would get packaged in there too.. I dunno
[20:51] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/emulator-docs-try2/+merge/193132
[20:51] <Noskcaj> balloons, You really want doc files to be install by a PACKAGE.docs or a doc-base file
[20:52] <balloons> Noskcaj,  there are 2 sets of docs.. the ubuntu-ui-toolkit docs build by dh_auto_build -- docs
[20:53] <balloons> the second is the docs I've added.. in theory I don't need them packaged at all.. I would just like the error to go away so I can land the branch. the docs will be pushed to the web instead
[20:53] <balloons> however, since there is a docs package I'm not opposed to including them as well
[20:53] <Noskcaj> i have to go feed some sheep. I'll see if i have time to help when i get back
[20:54] <balloons> Noskcaj, k
[21:19] <Noskcaj> I assume i missed something by going offline
[21:19] <balloons> Noskcaj, k, so yea
[21:19] <balloons> do I add to the dh_install rules for sphinx too?
[21:20] <balloons> and how do I fix the errors from my paste?
[21:22] <Noskcaj> I don't know what "sphinx" is, and by changing when the docs are generated, or having the generated versions in the branch
[21:22] <Noskcaj> And please make the package native, it makes it easier for us all
[21:24] <Noskcaj> balloons, I think override_dh_install is what you are looking for
[21:24] <Noskcaj> or override_dh_auto_build, which seems more suitable
[21:27] <Noskcaj> I have school now, bye
[21:29] <balloons> bye Noskcaj ty