[02:06] <visik7> have u add the repos for another kde ? I guess no
[02:06] <narvik86> no
[02:06] <abattoir> MistaED: aah, ok, i guess it's worth filing a bug if you have seen it in two machines
[02:06] <visik7> ok so it's3.5.2
[02:07] <narvik86> MistaED: how to downgrade?
[02:08] <MistaED> narvik86: i just used synaptic and selected force version on the hal packages, and changed it to the earlier version that way
[02:08] <MistaED> abattoir: also cheers for the assistance
[02:08] <narvik86> visik7: but in konqueror -> help -> about KDE o have 3.5.4
[02:08] <visik7> mm
[02:08] <narvik86> MistaED: ok thanks :)
[02:08] <visik7> so u are using kubuntu kde packages
[02:08] <visik7> so
[02:08] <abattoir> MistaED: no problem :)
[02:09] <visik7> is there a news reader in main ?
[02:09] <labaznik> howdy
[02:09] <narvik86> visik7: for usenet?
[02:09] <visik7> yes
[02:11] <narvik86> visik7: by default - no, but I think Thunderbird can read usenet
[02:14] <labaznik> 5.10 was quite slow on my celeron700 256mb. will 6.06 be faster? had to switch to vectorlinix - it runs like win95 :) but no package managment
[02:14] <Healot> labaznik, read, 256MB minimun for running the GUI :)
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> labaznik: I use kanotix on a similar spec laptop and it runs pretty fast (kubuntu dapper was too slow)
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> labznik: or try xubuntu that will run fine
[02:17] <visik7> narvik86: thunderbird is gtk
[02:18] <labaznik> sucks... it takes me 30mb running icewm under vector. not much precompiled software, slow processor... it was so exciting upgrading badger. but when i make 10 tabs even in opera, it goes slow
[02:18] <visik7> I'm happy without loading gtk
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> labaznik: xfce with xubuntu would run pretty quick
[02:20] <labaznik> by the way i got common going without laptop and making my irc session with siemens sk65 right now :)
[02:21] <narvik86> visik7: i don't know any others
[02:23] <narvik86> visik7: http://klibido.sourceforge.net/ but it is for binary files
[02:25] <labaznik> ...and the fastest debian i ever tried was damn small linux
[02:26] <labaznik> gotta go
[02:26] <narvik86> cu
[02:30] <guti_> hola
[02:36] <hagus> Hi GreyRodil :)
[02:36] <hagus> I have a question that is very simple to ask but probably not so easy to answer.
[02:37] <hagus> I have mislaid my username and password for my linksys router.
[02:37] <GreyRodil> this is worse than my old days of programming, 7 hours straight on the same problem...
[02:37] <hagus> Is there any other way of getting into it?
[02:37] <sergiusens> hagus: reset?
[02:38] <hagus> When I go to the router homepage, it says not authorised.  I am not sure how I could reset.  Would it be somewhere else that I would do it?
[02:39] <sergiusens> hagus: what router do you have?
[02:39] <hagus> linksys home router
[02:39] <hagus> The kind that you can get off the shelf at Tesco :)
[02:39] <helfrez> hard reset it, ust hold down the reset button for liek 10secs
[02:39] <hagus> ah ty :)
[02:39] <helfrez> should blow out all the configs
[02:40] <helfrez> usually on the back, requires a pushpin or something to get at
[02:41] <hagus> found it - beside power cable
[02:41] <hagus> Now before I press it :)
[02:42] <GreyRodil> ok, heres my problem, I cant get online with my kubuntu laptop which I just converted to kubuntu, every time I try with Kppp it says the modem is busy.  everything I've tried so far has either gotten me nowhere or has suggested something that requires getting it online first....
[02:43] <hagus> Once I press it, I shall lose my connect with you folk here - I guess :)
[02:44] <sergiusens> hagus: yes you will... if it's your way into the net
[02:45] <bugunu> hi, i'm trying to find the man page for XkbSetDetectableAutoRepeat, in adept I can only see xmanpages-ja (japanese). Need help.
[02:47] <Healot> man xorg.conf bugunu
[02:47] <hagus> I have found my router settings (except the username and password), so I am set for the switch off - I hope :-)
[02:48] <hagus> See you later - possibly MUCH later if this does not work out as I hope lol
[02:49] <hagus> thanks for your help sergiusens and helfrez :)
[02:50] <bugunu> Healot: can't seem to find anydata about XkbSetDetectableAutoRepeat this is a function i think i need the X development manpages but don't know where from(package name?)
[02:52] <sergiusens> hagus: you're welcome
[02:53] <helfrez> hagus: np
[02:55] <bleh> I cant mount dvd -r cds.. help me please :(
[02:55] <rodrigo> sergiusens: ya te vi amigo!
[02:58] <GreyRodil> is there any way to get the make command if apt-get isn't getting it?
[02:59] <Healot> !info build-essential
[02:59] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:59] <GreyRodil> same problem
[02:59] <kristyon> something wrong with your sources.list if apt-get wont get it
[02:59] <GreyRodil> how do i fix the sources list?
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !repos
[02:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:00] <BluesKaj> 1. An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module. 2.You have old third party modules lying around. ...How do I fix this ? !
[03:01] <BluesKaj> Systen Settings doesn't see my cd/dvd-rom drive , or my graphics card
[03:02] <BluesKaj> narvik86, hello :)
[03:02] <bleh> why cant I get dvd-r disks to mount?
[03:03] <narvik86> i don't have menu bar in konversation
[03:04] <bugunu> narvik86: Ctrl+M
[03:04] <GreyRodil> there a way to fix the sources list?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> narvik86, 1. An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module. 2.You have old third party modules lying around. ...How do I fix this ? !
[03:05] <kosh> GreyRodil: yeah you just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and put the correct entries in
[03:05] <narvik86> tried with installing kcontrol?
[03:06] <BluesKaj> narvik86, this is a quote from System settings
[03:06] <kosh> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic   use that
[03:06] <GreyRodil> where do I find the correct entries?
[03:07] <synie> hello
[03:07] <narvik86> BluesKaj: i don't have idea righ now :/ try to do smth with kcontrol maybe
[03:08] <GreyRodil> kosh: where do I find the correct entries for the sources.list?
[03:09] <kosh> I just put a link to it
[03:09] <synie> i want to open a german document with some german letters (like , , etc). usually i can display those letters, but in this document, i can't. i have no idea why. i also set the system language to german, but it didn't help. i sent the document to a friend and he can see the letters.
[03:09] <GreyRodil> o, woops, missed that, thanks
[03:10] <narvik86> BluesKaj: kde-systemsettings packet or kcontrol
[03:11] <narvik86> BluesKaj: be right back
[03:11] <jott> synie: make sure you have set the right encoding - utf-8 / iso 8859-1(5) ...
[03:11] <Chuck> Ive got a question, how could I make a permanent symlink?
[03:12] <_thumper_> just installed kubuntu edgy on laptop
[03:12] <_thumper_> using it right now
[03:12] <_thumper_> so network is working
[03:12] <_thumper_> however default sources.list is all commented out
[03:12] <_thumper_> when I tried archive.ubuntu.com, I got
[03:12] <lied> is there an mediaplayer out there which can handley streaming playlists with passwords?
[03:13] <_thumper_> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[03:13] <_thumper_> ip address didn look right
[03:13] <_thumper_> why do I have to hit single quote twice?
[03:14] <jott> _thumper_: no nodead-keys set? ;)
[03:15] <_thumper_> jott, dunno what you mean...#
[03:15] <_thumper_> tweaked sources.list and seems to be getting something now
[03:15] <_thumper_> perhaps just a slow dhcp acquire
[03:15] <_thumper_> not sure
[03:16] <jott> _thumper_: keyboard layout can have nodead keys or not.. which means that ' and ^ and so are used to make accents or are used at once...
[03:16] <_thumper_> jott, ah ok
[03:16] <jott> so check in control center keyboard layout you have variant nodeadkeys
[03:18] <robinsw> Hi, guys
[03:18] <robinsw> How can I see if my display settings for color are 32bit?
[03:18] <Shinzetsu> kmenu > settings > display?
[03:18] <robinsw> Thought that, but it only allows me to set resolution.
[03:18] <Shinzetsu> hang on
[03:18] <robinsw> Thanks, Shinzetsu
[03:19] <Shinzetsu> hm I cant find it either
[03:19] <Shinzetsu> actually I never cared about it, thinking it was 32b by default
[03:19] <robinsw> Weird
[03:19] <jott> kinfocenter -> X-Server
[03:19] <robinsw> Thanks for looking
[03:19] <jott> Depth of Root Window
[03:19] <robinsw> Aha
[03:19] <robinsw> Didn't think of looking there
[03:19] <robinsw> Thanks, guys
[03:20] <bogo> does anyone know how to change the system keymap? I selected the wrong one at the initial boot screen of the install CD
[03:20] <robinsw> jott, it's set to 24-bit
[03:20] <robinsw> Can I adjust this?
[03:21] <jott> in xorg.conf in screen section you can define a depth
[03:21] <robinsw> Righty ho.
[03:21] <jott> DefaultDepth
[03:21] <robinsw> For a complete noob who's just come over from Windows, how can I adjust that?
[03:21] <robinsw> I assume we're hitting the terminal here?
[03:22] <jott> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:22] <Healot> robinsw, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xrog"
[03:22] <Hawkwind> robinsw: systemsettings
[03:22] <_thumper_> wtf? updated source.list to enable a few more, and now cant ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com any more
[03:22] <Healot> robinsw, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:22] <jott> hm or via those hints ;)
[03:22] <robinsw> Got the bugger!
[03:22] <robinsw> Changed 24 to 32
[03:22] <robinsw> Thanks, guys
[03:22] <robinsw> :)
[03:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[03:24] <_thumper_> damn it
[03:24] <_thumper_> gotta get back to work
[03:25] <sergiusens> anyone using kpowersave?
[03:25] <MilhousePunkRock> I parted my HDD lately (without losing any data btw), how do I get one of the partitions mounted as a folder within my ~?
[03:25] <justjosh> !firewall
[03:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[03:26] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: Yes, I am...
[03:26] <lmosher> My PC doesn't seem to recognize my digital camera - but google says it should recognize just fine. How should I proceed? What can I try?
[03:27] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: did you get any problems? i didn't check much into it, but I get xserver errors, so my session is lost upon resume from S3
[03:27] <justjosh> !camera
[03:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about camera - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:27] <justjosh> !import
[03:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about import - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:27] <justjosh> hmm...guess the bot knows nothing.
[03:27] <sergiusens> it previously worked with ubuntu's default suspend scripts...
[03:27] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: Well... That might have something to do with your video chip, at least that's the case here...
[03:28] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: You might want to use a supsend2-patched kernel.
[03:28] <justjosh> !firestarter
[03:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[03:28] <sergiusens> I have a i915 and it used to work so I know it does... at least with klaptop it does
[03:28] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: ok, i'll look into it
[03:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't think KPowersave is the problem, it's just a frontend...
[03:29] <lmosher> LOL ok camera fixed.. important question I should have asked "does it have full batteries?"
[03:29] <lmosher> thanks :P
[03:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Although it might use slightly different scripts, sergiusens
[03:29] <opsidao> hi
[03:29] <sergiusens> it's a forntend to powersave wich I tried and had the same problems...
[03:30] <opsidao> somebody has an understanding on the implementation of http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html in kubuntu?
[03:30] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: yes I've been reading the scripts, I have yet to tranlate the ones in /etc/acpi and integrate them with the ones in /etc/powersave
[03:31] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: Anyway, the suspend2 patched kernels are here: http://bernard.blackham.com.au/babble/
[03:32] <djclue917> opsidao: what seems to be the problem?
[03:32] <opsidao> first, the XDG_.. env variables are not set
[03:32] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: i guess they don't integrate with kpowersave...
[03:33] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: Yes they do...
[03:33] <opsidao> and I'll also like to know what is the main menu file used in kubuntu and if it differs from the ubuntu one
[03:33] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: good... i'll try them
[03:33] <alterato> Have an odd keyboard input problem after running initial updates... Am unable to type in seeminly random kde password dialogs and System Settings Admin. mode pw dialogs... Any clue how to fix?
[03:33] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: thanks ;-)
[03:33] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: They did not solve my problems with STR, but they are known to be pretty good...
[03:34] <opsidao> there are /etx/xdg/menus/applications.menu (supposed to be the default)
[03:34] <opsidao> but also the /etx/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu
[03:34] <sergiusens> MilhousePunkRock: the thing is, that before, when using ubuntu, s2r worked...
[03:35] <MilhousePunkRock> sergiusens: Then KPowersave uses different scripts, most likely... If you understand that stuff, you can probably change them to something that will work.
[03:36] <opsidao> and there is a folder called kde-applications-merged wich I suppose is the DefaultMergeDir for kde-applications.menu
[03:36] <opsidao> but it is (IMHO) not exactly standard compliant
[03:38] <ninHer> hi @ll
[03:39] <Shinzetsu> h3llo
[03:41] <brandon_> watching a youtube video in konq takes the cpu to over 60%
[03:41] <alterato> Have an odd keyboard input problem after running initial updates... Am unable to type in seeminly random kde password dialogs and System Settings Admin. mode pw dialogs... Any clue how to fix?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> i hate konq as a browser ..it's a hog
[03:46] <opsidao> BluesKaj: luckily not eveybody likes the same ;)
[03:47] <Healot> i use konq fine... but there is one thing i don't prefer
[03:47] <Healot> brandon_, it's the Flash plugin that nog CPU, not konq
[03:48] <opsidao> my only problem with konq is that it can't open fine all the webs
[03:48] <opsidao> but it does open most of them
[03:49] <Chuck> did anyone had the Problem that kwallet stops open an Site by loggin in to it? I look through all the Cookies and accepted all, but it doesnt work at some sites.
[03:50] <aliasfred> about the flash plugin hogging the cpu, i was wondering... is it the same on window ? or is it due to the linux implemetation of it ?
[03:51] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:52] <Healot> yes, the implementation done by Macromedia
[03:52] <rolando> hi
[03:52] <aliasfred> Healot: so it is as slow on window too ?
[03:53] <Healot> it is true for linux, since the binary isn't optimised
[03:53] <rolando> i just installed kubuntu over mandriva, and i saved my old .kde as .kdeold
[03:53] <rolando> what folders should i copy to have my kwallet password in my new kde???
[03:53] <aliasfred> Healot: ok :) but what about the window implementation. as it is my question :)
[03:54] <Chuck> why?
[03:54] <Healot> ask macromedia perhaps?
[03:54] <Chuck> rolando: why dont you use your old kde configs?
[03:54] <Healot> perhaps perhaps, perhaps :)
[03:54] <aliasfred> Healot: hehe ok :) i guess i will have to ask somebody who tried flash on window :)
[03:55] <Chuck> I mean, all of them
[03:55] <aliasfred> thinking about it, i know one :)
[03:55] <Healot> sure
[03:55] <rolando> Chuck: because it was old version of kde 3.4 and id like to keep current configuration
[03:55] <bojan> the kde 3.5.4 packages for Kubuntu are fixed now right?
[03:55] <Healot> I do have Flash on my windows xp, installed :)
[03:55] <rolando> i just want from old kde my kwallet passwords
[03:55] <Healot> but mostly it doesn't do much harm
[03:55] <bojan> in relation to the the default-settings bug?
[03:55] <aliasfred> Healot: ok have you already run it ?
[03:55] <Healot> btw, I am on Windows XP :)
[03:55] <aliasfred> Healot: so you say that that flash is faster on window then on linux ?
[03:56] <damian_> are win32codecs binary blobs or the product of reverse engineering
[03:56] <aliasfred> damian_: yes
[03:56] <damian_> which one
[03:56] <rolando> reverse
[03:56] <Healot> aliasfred, define faster?
[03:56] <damian_> then why doesn't it come with kubuntu by default
[03:57] <aliasfred> damian_: well i dunno :) some are just copied some the window dll
[03:57] <Healot> i would say Flash for Windows doesn't crash Internet Explorer or Firefox at most of the time
[03:57] <aliasfred> damian_: because it is illegal in many country :)
[03:57] <damian_> so they *are* binary blobs
[03:57] <damian_> they probably use a wrapper
[03:57] <aliasfred> Healot: hehe like faster in english :) i guess i wont get the answer from you :)
[03:58] <Healot> damian_, it can work with original Windows codecs...
[03:58] <aliasfred> damian_: yes they do, it is to run the window dll on linux
[03:59] <BluesKaj> How do I find KDE orphaned control modules ?
[04:02] <rolando> try #kde
[04:03] <Healot> aliasfred, faster than what? need something to compare with
[04:05] <aliasfred> Healot: man i dont get you :)
[04:05] <aliasfred> Healot: the question is "does the flash plugin run faster on window than on linux?"
[04:06] <aliasfred> i havent window so i havent tried. but it is ok i remember a friend of mine running window, i will ask him
[04:07] <aliasfred> as this ontheside topic is becoming a long offtopic thread :)
[04:09] <Healot> faster than what?
[04:10] <Healot> the answer should depends on your CPU spec, but generally Windows' version is faster
[04:10] <justjosh> faster than my ex-girlfriend on a meth binge?
[04:11] <justjosh> nah, nothing is THAT fast....
[04:13] <eeos> hi there. Is there anyone who has been able to use Rosegarden 4 on kubuntu?
[04:13] <justjosh> !rosegarden
[04:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about rosegarden - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:13] <justjosh> well heck with you then bot.
[04:14] <damian_> why is it that i can't have amaroK and firefox play sound at the same time
[04:15] <eeos> damian_: we are having problems with sound on kubuntu as well
[04:15] <damian_> i've had that problem in suse too
[04:15] <jott> damian_: start firefox (or any application using oss) with "aoss firefox"
[04:15] <damian_> is it the sound server's fault?
[04:15] <eeos> damian_: same type of problem. one appliction does seem to exclude others from sound
[04:16] <damian_> is aoss a sound server?
[04:16] <jott> then its mapped to alsa.. which should in turn use dmix so it allows more than one application to access it
[04:16] <jott> damian_: no it wraps /dev/dsp to alsa
[04:16] <damian_> ok
[04:18] <eeos> anyone who knows how to use jackd as a sound server on kubuntu?
[04:18] <valdiney> Ol amigos...
[04:19] <imbrandon> Ola
[04:19] <eeos> ola, como estas?
[04:20] <valdiney> algum aqui usa o Azureus Torrent?
[04:20] <imbrandon> bueno
[04:21] <imbrandon> valdiney: si
[04:21] <imbrandon> valdiney: volver un minuto
[04:22] <valdiney> estou tendo um problema com ele... Sempre que eu abro o Azureus, depois de algum tempo aparece uma notificao de atualizao e a mesma no fecha mais.
[04:25] <TheHighChild> Does anyone have the missing address bar problem with KOnqueror after the upgrade to 3.5.4? abattoir was able to help me get it back last night temporarily, now I can't get it back at all
[04:25] <aliasfred> !pt
[04:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:25] <aliasfred> just in case the question is still pending :)
[04:28] <imbrandon> valdiney: meu portugus  no grande mas, aquele  um problema sabido com Azures, voc pode comear uma outra verso de azureus.sf.net e  fixo
[04:28] <imbrandon> doh , he is gone
[04:28] <eeos> TheHighChild: I do not have the problem. 3.5.4 on kubuntu 6.06 amd 64 here.
[04:30] <eeos> TheHighChild: what is your configuration
[04:32] <TheHighChild> Dapper with KDE 3.5.4
[04:32] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Ctrl+M doen't get it back?
[04:33] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: that is the menu bar
[04:33] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Ah Good point. Astute
[04:34] <eeos> TheHighChild: settings > toolbars > location toolbar
[04:34] <eeos> TheHighChild: does that work?
[04:34] <TheHighChild> eeos: That is not in the list
[04:35] <eeos>  TheHighChild: what is in the list?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to logout of Kubuntu but it's not responding...is there another cnd I can use to shut it down without causing problems ?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> cmd
[04:37] <TheHighChild> eeos: http://www.milkspank.com/ubuntu/toolbars.png
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !logout
[04:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about logout - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:38] <BluesKaj> damn~!
[04:38] <TheHighChild> BluesKaj: 'sudo halt'
[04:38] <TheHighChild> that will power down
[04:38] <mark_> my sound only wokrs when i don't plug my webcam in, this has something to do with the integrated microphone of the webcam i think... sometimes when I start and the cam is plugged it works and in the volume control it shows "ca0106" which is the cam and "USB Device", but sometimes there is only "USB Device" and "USB device - oss control". now how can i make the computer know that i want the microphone of the cam and my soundcard to work and n
[04:38] <emonkey-p> BluesKaj, sudo shutdown -h will shutdown your system immediately, sudo reboot will reboot the system immediately
[04:39] <BluesKaj> thx  guys
[04:40] <eeos>  TheHighChild: is not there
[04:40] <emonkey-p> seems like it works :)
[04:40] <eeos>  TheHighChild:  :-(
[04:40] <TheHighChild> eeos: thus my problem
[04:40] <TheHighChild> it's horribly annoying. I hate everyone other ftp and fish client
[04:40] <TheHighChild> every*
[04:41] <eeos>  TheHighChild: I have to get a look at it
[04:42] <mark_> oops, sorry ca0106 is the sound card
[04:43] <eeos> TheHighChild: what happens if you do settings > configure toolbars
[04:44] <TheHighChild> eeos: http://www.milkspank.com/ubuntu/tools2.png
[04:45] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know of a more konqueror specific irc chat?
[04:46] <justjosh> konversation?
[04:46] <eeos> konversation
[04:46] <mark_> konversation !
[04:47] <TheHighChild> ORLY?
[04:48] <eeos> !konversation
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[04:48] <eeos> oooops, have to leave!
[04:48] <[Wiebel] > Hello
[04:48] <[Wiebel] > I've just installed kde (apt-get install kde) in ubuntu
[04:49] <[Wiebel] > and now I want to get my multimedia keys to work
[04:49] <justjosh> why not just install kubuntu?
[04:49] <justjosh> but anyway...
[04:49] <DaSkreech> [Wiebel] : You should apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <[Wiebel] > justjosh: i didn't want the splash screen and kdm and stuff
[04:49] <[Wiebel] > (bootsplash that is)
[04:49] <[Wiebel] > Kmilo should be configurable , right?
[04:50] <mark_> so nobody knows how i could get my soundcard to work with the webcam?
[04:50] <Moo_Moo> http://wlserver1-he.gindis.com/modules.php?name=WLAccount&file=visitor&op=game&userid=MzU4Ng== gindis game the best game on online
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Why does the webcam need a soundcard?
[04:51] <mark_> it doesn't
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Ah that's what I though
[04:52] <dragica> #pitaubuntu-h
[04:52] <mark_> but sometimes (it seems to be randomly) the sound works (and i can see it in the volume control) and sometimes it doesn't
[04:52] <mark_> but when i do not connect the webcam sound always works
[04:53] <bojan> are the kde 3.5.4 packages for Kubuntu dapper fixed, with relation to the default-settings bug?
[04:54] <mark_> you see daskreech?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> which webcam?
[04:54] <mark_> umm
[04:54] <mark_> Logitech Quick Cam Zoom
[04:55] <mark_> and it works fine, but it seems to block the sound but only sometimes!
[04:56] <[Wiebel] > nobody who can tell me how to configure my MM keys under kde?
[04:56] <[Wiebel] > (gnome just works)
[04:57] <Bud_Spencer> install lineak-kde
[04:57] <Bud_Spencer> should work
[04:57] <[Wiebel] > what is it? :)
[04:58] <TheHighChild> [Wiebel] : Kmenu > System Settings > Regional & Accessibility
[04:58] <[Wiebel] > TheHighChild: and then what? :)
[04:58] <Bud_Spencer> a packege apt-get install lineak-kde
[04:58] <[Wiebel] > Bud_Spencer: yeah, but what is linEAK?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> have you done a search on google to find out if the Quick Zoom is a known problem child?
[04:59] <Bud_Spencer> Its a programm with which you can configure your keyboard also your MM-keys
[04:59] <mark_> ok you got me :)
[04:59] <mark_> i only searched for the sound card since the cam works fine
[05:00] <TheHighChild> [Wiebel] : http://www.tannerstokes.com/2006/08/02/getting-those-multimedia-keys-to-work-in-kubuntu/
[05:00] <[Wiebel] > TheHighChild: yeah, but that's not the right way
[05:01] <[Wiebel] > I know it works perfecly in deault kubuntu
[05:01] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:01] <farous> mark_: can you tell me more about your sound problem. you said it worked sometimes other not what programs you were running when it worked and what programs when it were not
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Well it's the webcam not making the sound work acording to your theory :)
[05:01] <helfrez> bojan: for the most part i think they are, but the 354 packages definately still need alot of testing..they have been a bit buggy for me so far
[05:01] <mark_> it does not depend on programmes at all
[05:01] <mark_> with the webcam connected:
[05:01] <farous> mark_: is it when you run two programs using the sound?
[05:02] <mark_> i start the computer when i hear if it get this weird bongo sound or not
[05:02] <mark_> i can restart from there without changing anything and sound might work
[05:03] <mark_> and the difference is that if sound works in the volume control i can change the settings for "ca0106" (the soundcard) and some "usb device" (which is the mic of the cam)
[05:03] <farous> mark_: some programs use the old oss sound system which do not alow sound mixing. ie the usage of the sound card by two programs
[05:04] <mark_> yup but that works fine, if the card is visible in the volume control
[05:04] <farous> mark_: here you go when you hook the mic of the cam it uses the sound card and block any program from using it
[05:04] <alberto> Ciao a tutti. Ho installato Kubuntu. Vorrei montare una partizione del disco su cui ho dei dati da salvare. Il mio vecchio sistema non parte pi. Avevo impostato dei privilegi di lettura e scrittura per utente. Come faccio a recuperare i dati da quelle cartelle?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> !it
[05:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:04] <alberto> excuse me. try in English
[05:04] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:05] <Bud_Spencer> or urdu
[05:06] <abattoir> alberto: are you asking about data recovery? :P
[05:06] <mark_> i think the problem is some limitation of "sound devices" to two and a random choice of whether it's the soundcard or the mic or the mic in oss
[05:06] <abattoir> TheHighChild: got the location bar thing sorted out?
[05:08] <alberto> I've a system with some folders that I have to save. This system don't boot anymore, so I have to mount the partition from another installation in the same HD. On the old system I've many setup with authority per user. So, How can I read from theese protected folder from the new system?
[05:08] <dreamthief> hi everybody
[05:08] <bojan> helfrez: what problems?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> alberto: Try sudo su
[05:08] <DaSkreech> alberto: Then you can go anywhere
[05:09] <Bud_Spencer> alberto: in terminal sudo nautilus
[05:09] <alberto> so I can mount without any restriction?
[05:09] <TheHighChild> abattoir: well, I did a dpkg-reconfigure on everything konqueror. then fired it up and it was cool. I was launching it from my  internet applications menu and replaced the offending startup command with plain old 'Konqueror' so, in short, I have no idea wtf is gooing on
[05:10] <abattoir> TheHighChild: hah, i just read the last line... hope its enough :)
[05:10] <dreamthief> can somebody tell me why Kubuntu mounts my external usb harddisk in a way that only root can access it?
[05:10] <TheHighChild> it works when I use 'konqueror &' but not whatever is in the Internet apps menu by default
[05:10] <Bud_Spencer> no if it mounted, the partition, try "sudo chmod -R ugo=rwx /media/drive"
[05:10] <helfrez> bojan: i use kontact for mail/calendaring...mainly because its the only linux setup that syncs perfectly with my treo at the moment
[05:10] <DaSkreech> Bud_Spencer: Or konqueror
[05:10] <helfrez> and its been crashing alot
[05:11] <abattoir> TheHighChild: Konq in kubuntu comes w/ 2 view profiles... one for file management and another for webbrowsing
[05:11] <DaSkreech> alberto: only restrictions that make sense
[05:11] <bojan> ok
[05:11] <farous> dreamthief: are you in plugev group
[05:11] <farous> dreamthief: type groups in a terminal
[05:11] <abattoir> TheHighChild: my guess is that the location bar is missing for the file mgmt. view, while it is present for the web brwsng. view
[05:11] <harmental> hi everybody...
[05:12] <TheHighChild> abattoir: but I was launching the one in the Internet menu. lol
[05:12] <dreamthief> yes, I am in this group
[05:12] <TheHighChild> So it goes, I am not too worried. It's working for me now. I just like it for ftp and fish so as long as I have a work-around I am happy
[05:12] <abattoir> TheHighChild: yes, that'd launch 'konqueror' (kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing)
[05:13] <mikearthur> this is perhaps a stupid question
[05:13] <mikearthur> but can you upgrade the software on the live cd?
[05:13] <abattoir> TheHighChild: hehe, ok, as long as you are content, i dont want to confuse you :P
[05:13] <TheHighChild> abattoir: Yeah, that was it and that was without the address bar. WHen I just use 'konqueror' it starts fine
[05:13] <TheHighChild> I'm good, thanks for all of your help
[05:13] <abattoir> np :)
[05:14] <dreamthief> i am in this group but I can't access the usb disk ;) thats the point where confusion begins ... ;) @ farous
[05:14] <TheHighChild> I hadn't realized it started with different profiles. Now it makes sense, I must have a goofed inet profile
[05:15] <dreamthief> join #kubuntu-de
[05:15] <dreamthief> oops ;)
[05:15] <farous> dreamthief: i am trying to think of something yet frankly do not know
[05:15] <dreamthief> okay
[05:15] <farous> dreamthief: i still did not recieve my usb hard disk
[05:15] <farous> :)
[05:16] <dreamthief> is weird ...
[05:16] <farous> dreamthief: you can mount it manually though
[05:16] <dreamthief> ubuntu on my laptop mounts my harddisk user readable
[05:16] <dreamthief> kubuntu on my desktop doesn't
[05:16] <dreamthief> ...
[05:16] <farous> oh!
[05:16] <farous> that is really strange
[05:17] <dreamthief> yess ...
[05:17] <Akane`Mahoru> !seen shuriken
[05:17] <ubotu> I last saw Shuriken<EMAIL_ADDRESS>15h 34m 21s ago, quiting: Client Quit
[05:17] <Akane`Mahoru> oups
[05:17] <dreamthief> i even checked /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permission.rules
[05:17] <mikearthur> Whats the current workaround for installing onto an XFS boot?
[05:18] <dreamthief> usb harddisks should be readable by anyone in the plugdev group ...
[05:18] <farous> dreamthief: did you check it might be a reported bug
[05:18] <dreamthief> but my stupid harddisk is not user readable for any user in this group
[05:19] <dreamthief> no, i din't yet
[05:19] <dreamthief> but thats a good point ...
[05:19] <ThunderStruck> mikearthur: if you wait til the 6.06.1 installer tesing is done it should be fixed int hat
[05:21] <the-mouse> Hi guys, I installed XGL on my kubuntu successfully but the controls doesn't work
[05:21] <mikearthur> ThunderStruck: can't wait till then
[05:22] <ThunderStruck> mikearthur: oh than no ther eis no work around for it 6.06.1 should be out in few days to a wekk or so
[05:22] <mikearthur> ok, fair enough, I'll do all the grub stuff manually
[05:24] <david> hello ! how can i install java from www.java.com on ubuntu? the manuals did i found doenst work!
[05:24] <DaSkreech> the-mouse: THe controls?
[05:25] <mark_> they work too god for me i always get in the corners with my mouse...
[05:25] <the-mouse> for example i cna't change the desktops with the cube
[05:25] <the-mouse> can't*
[05:25] <Philip5> david: the easiest way is to apt-get install the java packges you want
[05:26] <david> i have installed all java packages
[05:26] <mikearthur> ThunderStruck: when you say its fixed, do you mean it doesn't crash the installer any more?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> the-mouse: Alt_ctrl+Left
[05:27] <farous> david: java is in multiverse repos you can install it from there much easier
[05:27] <ThunderStruck> mikearthur: most of the installer crashes have been fixed including the xfs one
[05:27] <david> msg nickserv register 0355
[05:27] <farous> and do you mean java the lang or the java plugin for the web browser
[05:27] <ThunderStruck> david: /msg
[05:27] <farous> david: and change your passwd
[05:27] <mikearthur> ThunderStruck: can I not just apt-get upgrade the installer from within the live cd then?
[05:28] <ThunderStruck> mikearthur: no its not an upgrade its a new version
[05:28] <ThunderStruck> mikearthur: if i get ff up ill give you a link or 2
[05:28] <dek_aik> hi..howto insert application in the bottom part of the kmenu (between Run and Log Out)?
[05:29] <mikearthur> ThunderStruck: a link to the new installer?
[05:30] <ThunderStruck> biggest issues with livecd installer and when they will be fixed= https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity the point release still in testing= http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dapper/daily-live/current/
[05:30] <the-mouse> DaSkreech that doesn't wotk
[05:31] <ThunderStruck> mikearthur: there is one for kubuntu8 but i dont have that link here
[05:31] <DaSkreech> the-mouse: Which window decorator are you using?
[05:31] <the-mouse> decorator?
[05:32] <Coby1985> can no one help me with java ?
[05:32] <Coby1985> i have installed all packages
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Did you use the gnome window decorator or the kde?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Coby1985: Sup?
[05:32] <the-mouse> kde
[05:32] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:32] <Gun_Smoke> I
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Which walkthrough did you follow?
[05:33] <the-mouse> http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=1067
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Ah
[05:33] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:33] <DaSkreech> You may want to ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:33] <Gun_Smoke> I've decided to rejoin the the kde crew once again.
[05:33] <Coby1985> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[05:33] <Coby1985> it doenst work
[05:34] <farous> !java
[05:34] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:34] <DaSkreech> What doesn't work?
[05:34] <the-mouse> i also can't chanhge between my input languages
[05:34] <Coby1985> i cant open this page www.speedcheck.arcor.de
[05:34] <the-mouse> there is a "err" label instead of mu language flag in the ststray
[05:34] <the-mouse> systray*
[05:34] <Gun_Smoke> java won't work for PPC right?
[05:35] <Gun_Smoke> or was that just flash?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Coby1985: Perhaps you haven't installed the browser plugin?
[05:35] <mikearthur> how can I kill something if kill -9 won't kill it?
[05:36] <Coby1985> no thats java
[05:36] <Coby1985> what browser plugin
[05:36] <rlj> adept complained that it could not upgrade some package and shut down completely after i exited the dialog. now the apt database is wrongfully open. where can i find the lockfile to delete
[05:37] <mark_> what's "the best" non-linear video editing programme for linux?
[05:37] <djclue917> mark: kino?
[05:37] <djclue917> mark_: kino?
[05:37] <mark_> is that part of the name "?" ?
[05:37] <Jucato> rlj: try entering this in the command line "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:37] <djclue917> mark_: nope. i was just not sure..
[05:38] <Coby1985> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp   >>>>> which version i can use
[05:38] <Jucato> djclue917: the name is "kino" (no quotes)
[05:38] <ubuntu> kikou
[05:38] <ubuntu> frensh pepole here ?
[05:38] <mark_> oh ok, thank you
[05:38] <mark_> frensh?
[05:38] <ubuntu> french
[05:38] <mark_> moi chuis allemand
[05:39] <rlj> Jucato: oh yeah. that's right. at least seems to be doing things now. (setting up the remanining unconfigured packages)
[05:39] <ubuntu> tu parle bien frech :/
[05:39] <djclue917> Jucato: yeah i know. i mean i wasn't sure if kino was THE best non-linear video editing program. anyways...
[05:39] <rlj> Jucato: i'm still new to apt. been using portage for quite a while though
[05:39] <Jucato> aaaah
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Coby1985: did you apt-get the sun version?
[05:39] <Jucato> rlj: it's ok. we were all new at one time
[05:40] <rlj> logging off now
[05:40] <rlj> seems it does not like that kde is open
[05:40] <Coby1985> first i must find apt-get
[05:40] <Coby1985> i use ubuntu not so long
[05:41] <Jucato> Coby1985: what are you trying to do? (sorry just came in)
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Coby1985: Or adept :)
[05:41] <Coby1985> i want to open this page www.speedcheck.arcor.de
[05:41] <Coby1985> and want to view some remote connections with VNC
[05:42] <Coby1985> i have adept
[05:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: If he's trying to install Sun's Java from the repositories, he shouldn't use Adept or Synaptic. There's a license agreement that needs to be confirmed which doesn't show in either Adept or Synaptic
[05:42] <drbreen> jucato: it shows up in synaptic
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Good point :)
[05:43] <Jucato> drbreen: the License Agreement confirmation? last time I installed Java, it didn't
[05:43] <DaSkreech> I think it turns up in Adept as well if you have perl installed
[05:43] <mark_> can i import existing video files in kino?
[05:43] <Jucato> I don't think most freshly installed systems have perl. Not sure though
[05:43] <DaSkreech> They don't
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Coby1985: Do you have multiverse?
[05:44] <drbreen> jucato: the last time i tried to install java per synaptic, i got the chance to not confirm the license agreement (license == unfree)
[05:45] <Coby1985> what is multiverse ?
[05:45] <harmental> how do you keep latex packages updated??
[05:45] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > Coby1985
[05:45] <Jucato> drbreen: would the installation continue of you didn't accept the license agreement? this is the new Sun Java
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It doesn't
[05:45] <Coby1985> I use ubuntu not yet so long
[05:46] <abattoir> !multiverse > Coby1985
[05:46] <drbreen> jucato: it was on breezy, i declined and it did not continue
[05:46] <abattoir> Coby1985: that should give you the relevant info :)
[05:46] <Gun_Smoke> !multiverse > Gun_Smoke
[05:46] <Jucato> drbreen: Dapper has a new version of Sun Java, the one with a more compatible license
[05:46] <abattoir> DaSkreech: oops, sorry, didnt see your post :P
[05:47] <drbreen> jucato: so what is the new license ?
[05:47] <drbreen> jucato: what does it say so that it is "compatible"
[05:47] <uniq> Jucato: hi, any news on the media:/ stuff? i got your message about the HAL policy stuff not working.
[05:48] <Jucato> uniq: no luck, I gave up...
[05:48] <draik> Hello Jucato
[05:48] <drbreen> abattoir: can i "pipe" the output of ubotu with "!something > username" ?
[05:48] <Jucato> at least my system is still usable... just need to make some symlinks
[05:48] <Jucato> draik: hi!
[05:48] <abattoir> Jucato, uniq : guys, see if downgrading hal works for you
[05:48] <Jucato> drbreen: I'm not familiar with the exact license. I'll look up a reference for it
[05:49] <Jucato> abattoir: how would I be able to do that?
[05:49] <draik> Jucato, I turned the lecture in #ubuntu-classroom on IRC into PDF. Just goes to show how much free time I have
[05:49] <abattoir> drbreen:  yes, of course :)
[05:49] <uniq> abattoir: did it work for you? what version are you using?
[05:50] <Jucato> draik: lol... haven't had the chance to make a summary/review
[05:50] <abattoir> Jucato, uniq : i havent tried it myself, but someone else was here earlier in the day, w/ the media:/ problem among other things(hal-related)
[05:51] <oklinux> how can I make my onboard sound card to work ?
[05:51] <Jucato> it's definitely HAL related... it's the only rational explanation :-D
[05:51] <administrador> hello
[05:51] <administrador> i have a problem
[05:51] <abattoir> we found that the hal which came w/ kde 3.5.4 in dapper was causing the issues, he went back to the one from the 'official' ubuntu repos, and everything was back to normal
[05:52] <abattoir> he said he'd file a bug
[05:52] <uniq> abattoir: i got my apple bootstrap partition showing up by editing the HAL policies in /usr/share/hal/. Apple bootstrap partitions are special, though.
[05:52] <Jucato> abattoir: I wish I knew how to downgrade
[05:52] <uniq> Jucato: you're running dapper?
[05:52] <administrador> anybody help me
[05:52] <Jucato> abattoir: I also wish he would file the bug report... I'm traumatized from filing bug reports
[05:53] <Jucato> administrador: what's the problem?
[05:53] <Jucato> uniq: not right now... I'm on XP... @_@
[05:53] <uniq> Jucato: you have the problem in dapper?
[05:53] <administrador> I have 2 partitions
[05:53] <administrador> one with XP and another with Kubuntu
[05:53] <Jucato> uniq: yep in Dapper
[05:54] <DaSkreech> The power of Libre compels you!
[05:55] <DaSkreech> administrador: I fail to see the problem
[05:56] <ailean> hey, i'm looking for a Borland/Inprise style C/C++ IDE. what should i use?
[05:56] <ailean> with GUI
[05:56] <administrador> but I want to put for defect the Windows XP to boot automaticaly
[05:56] <Jucato> drbreen: I can't seem to remember the link about Sun Java, but since it's in multiverse, too
[05:56] <Jucato> ailean: I think KDevelop is worth a try?
[05:56] <abattoir> Jucato: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/pool-dapper/extra/hal/ has the packages 3.5.4 installs
[05:56] <damian_> or anjuta
[05:56] <ailean> thanks Jucato
[05:58] <abattoir> Jucato: forgive me... my brains have stopped working.... if you downgrade hal, KDE will stop working, all hell will break loose
[05:58] <Jucato> drbreen: found it from the blog of Mark Shuttleworth himself: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/38
[05:58] <uwo> want to try gnome - does n1 know how to install it without getting all the gnome apps in the kmenu? i saw a good solution once before on the forums, but can't remember what and where.
[05:58] <Jucato> abattoir: well... it's ok...
[05:59] <dr_willis> Hmm. I just normlly install ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop and have a blast with all the stuff. :P heck with minimal systems!
[06:00] <DaSkreech> administrador: rEAD Up on Grub
[06:00] <Jucato> uwo: to install GNOME/Ubuntu: "sudo aptitude update" then "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop". Then you could probably use a program like "K Menu Gnome" ( http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31031) to clean up the menu...
[06:00] <administrador> I have 2 OS - Kubunto and Windows XP
[06:01] <administrador> but the Kubunto
[06:01] <administrador> doing boot automatically
[06:01] <uwo> jucato - tnx. exactly what i needed :)
[06:01] <administrador> but i want the WinXP
[06:01] <dr_willis> administrador,  you can edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and set it to load whatever ya want by default
[06:02] <draik> administrador, you can select what you want to boot from grub. You have 10s to decide
[06:02] <administrador> what
[06:02] <administrador> sorry
[06:02] <dr_willis> the line 'default = #' where # is the menu entry to boot by default.     Note that Grub starts counting at zero. so the menu entry for windows will be   the # of entrys -1
[06:02] <administrador> i don't understand
[06:02] <administrador> sorry
[06:03] <adna> "Connection to CUPS server failed." -Sound familiar?
[06:03] <dr_willis> Edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file administrador     and set the default boot entry.
[06:03] <dr_willis> adna,   you using the cups web interface?
[06:03] <draik> administrador, cual es tu idioma?
[06:03] <adna> PrinYes.
[06:03] <administrador> PT
[06:03] <Jucato> administrador: maybe this could help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS?highlight=%28grub%29
[06:04] <adna> I mean KDE Control Center.
[06:04] <dr_willis> adna,  ive never had good luck with the kde printer config tools. :()
[06:04] <adna> dr_willis: -and many people are bummed about CUPS right now...
[06:05] <dr_willis> adna,  i reenable the cups web interface on every system  i install.
[06:05] <adna> How do you do that?
[06:05] <dr_willis> the ubuntu devs sort of screwed up big time with some of their cups decisions.
[06:05] <dr_willis> :P
[06:05] <dek_aik> hi.....anybody knows how to insert menu in the bottom part of the Kmenu (between "Run Command" and "Log Out")?
[06:06] <Jucato> dek_aik: as far as I know, you can't insert customized menu entries.
[06:06] <Jucato> dek_aik: you can only choose from a predefined set
[06:06] <dr_willis> info on the crippling of CUPS in dapper  and how to fix it back to normal -->  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2107
[06:07] <dr_willis> KDE has a lot of config files and things ya can proberly tweek to change the menus.. but thats more for systemadmins to limit the users.
[06:07] <dr_willis> I saw a KDE KOISK mode tutorial once that changed a lot of things. but not sure if that was for an older kde or not.
[06:07] <adna> dr_willis: Thanks!
[06:07] <dek_aik> Jucato: really?...its too bad...i want to insert a script there
 Thanks by site
[06:08] <administrador> but
[06:08] <administrador> that commands
[06:08] <administrador> were I writte
[06:08] <administrador> after the boot
[06:09] <administrador> or before
[06:09] <administrador> where I writte
[06:09] <hagus> Thanks again to those who helped me regain control of my router :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> administrador,  you are not being very clear.
[06:09] <Jucato> administrador: do those commands when you are in Kubuntu. then after edint menu.lst, you have to reboot
[06:09] <draik> administrador, write the boot number that belongs to your winxp boot
[06:10] <_martin> Got a problem with my CD drive... Kubuntu doesn't appear to mount any CD's anymore. Where might I start my investigation into this?
[06:10] <draik> _martin, check /media
[06:10] <draik> I had a similar issue a while back
[06:10] <Jucato> _martin: what version of KDE are you using?
[06:11] <admin__> j/ #zawiercie
 which is the boot number that belongs to my xp boot
[06:11] <admin__> sorry :-)
[06:12] <draik> I don't know
[06:12] <hagus> Anyone here with experience of adding a linux machine to a winxp home network, so that (1) the winxp computers can print to linux machine's printer and (2) to let linux machine see the windows computers?
[06:12] <Jucato> administrador: you have to count it by yourself.  If you have 3 for linux and 1 for xp, then it's number 3
[06:12] <_martin> Jucato: not actually sure... hoe would I check. It would be from the CD verion of breezy badger.
[06:12] <Jucato> oooh
[06:13] <Jucato> you're using Breezy Badger (Kubuntu 5.10)?
[06:13] <_martin> yes
[06:13] <_martin> I'm about to go to 6.06 but want to back some stuff up
[06:13] <_martin> without a CD drive working i'm slightely miffed.
[06:14] <gan|y|med> hello
[06:14] <administrador> ok, but i want to know edit this commands --> ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS?highlight=%28grub%29 )
[06:15] <administrador> I want Know and Where
[06:15] <_martin> under /media I do have a shortcut to cdrom and a folder for cdrom0 but both of these are empty, even with a CD loaded
[06:15] <dreamthief> _martin, why don't you try a dist-upgrade with the dapper-repos to upgrade breezy to dapper without a fresh dapper installation?
[06:15] <gan|y|med> since i updated kde (i suppose it is the update, as everthing had worked fine before), i cannot print from openoffice. all apps using the kde printing facility work. any ideas?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> hagus: Guess you haven't  gotten that kiss yet ;-)
[06:16] <draik> _martin, they may look empty, but go into them (cdrom0 primarily)
[06:16] <dr_willis> administrador,  when you see your grub Menu - you COUNT the # of entrys..  if  the boot windws entry is  #6 = then you want 'default  5'        if its  #4  then ya want default 3
[06:18] <administrador> dr_willis: can you are more clear in your opinion, please
[06:18] <hagus> Hey, DaSkreech, I was really in hotwater earlier :)
[06:18] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: I think he doesn't know how to edit :)
[06:18] <draik> administrador, open a Run Console and type 'sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst' and read what you have for boot options
[06:18] <DaSkreech> hagus: What do you mean when you say have Linux see the windows ?
[06:18] <_martin> draik: they are very empty, I'm showing hidden files and have root access. There is nothing.
[06:18] <dr_willis> administrador,  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the changes that page mentions.. I really cant get any more clear then that.
[06:18] <hagus> I reset the router without remembering how to get it going again :)
[06:19] <_martin> dreamthief: not a bad idea... do you think dist-upgrade might fix whatever is damaged?
[06:19] <administrador> ok, Now I Understand
[06:19] <draik> _martin, that was my issue. I couldn't see it on my desktop like I usually did, but upon going into /media it was there
[06:19] <administrador> Thanks!!!
[06:19] <dr_willis> hence the use of the term 'edit the file' :)
[06:20] <hagus> When I am using linux on my machine (I can boot in either linux or winxp at startup), I want my wife's machine (e.g.) to show up in whatever is the samba manager.
[06:20] <draik> dr_willis, still a bit unclear about what you are trying to say... can you elaborate?!?! Sorry
[06:20] <dreamthief> _martin, yes, i think so ...
[06:20] <dr_willis> draik,  huh? what do you mean? what does 'a' mean? :P
[06:21] <draik> dr_willis, what's with all the words??? AAAAAHHHHHHHHH :P
[06:21] <hagus> Basically I want a simple home network that allow the winxp-based computers to show up in the lan manager of linux and vice-versa :)
[06:21] <_martin> dreamthief, having said that.. I would like to backup before upgrading.. be it with CD or anything. So this just takes me back to problem number one.
[06:21] <dr_willis> 'lan manager' ?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> hagus: try typing smb:/ in the konqueror window
[06:22] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: his main problem is printing.
[06:22] <dr_willis> or some of the other samba browser tools. :P
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Ask his wife ;-)
[06:22] <hagus> DaSkreetch - you is a genius, man :)
[06:22] <dreamthief> do you have different partitions for /home, / etc? @ _martin
[06:22] <dreamthief> or is everything stored on one partition?
[06:23] <_martin> no, eveything is on one partition.
[06:24] <_martin> It's possible a dependency has been damaged... libc6 broke on me a while ago and adpet very kindly made things worse by uninstalling everything that depended on it...
[06:24] <_martin> I stopped it before too much damage was casused, but still a lot of things appear to have gone wrong.
[06:24] <hagus> I can see my daughter's machine and various directories.
[06:24] <_martin> USB devices also won't mount.
[06:24] <_martin> just checked.
[06:24] <hagus> My wife's machine, I can see but she does not let me see any of her directories :(
[06:25] <hagus> So, the lan thing works even more easily on linux than on windows.
[06:25] <DaSkreech> hagus: heeheeheee
[06:25] <dr_willis> if she dont have any shared ya wont see any. :P
[06:25] <dr_willis> theres also several alternative samba browser tools out.. and ways to acces  the samba shares.
[06:25] <draik> hagus, everything is easier than windows
[06:25] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Windows computers can print through cups?
[06:26] <draik> yes
[06:26] <DaSkreech> draik: Installing WoW :)
[06:26] <draik> DaSkreech, I do that
[06:26] <hagus> draik - I only wish that that were true in my own experience lol
[06:26] <draik> hagus, give it some time and you'll catch on really quick
[06:26] <DaSkreech> draik: Sweet. Can you help hagus get affection :)
[06:27] <BluesKaj> kde doesn't see my cd/dvd drive in systems settings !
[06:28] <draik> DaSkreech, hagus has a wife, I have a girlfriend and I don't think his wife would appreciate it much
[06:28] <bob_> hello, anyone can help with Kopete charsets?
[06:28] <hagus> I am able to print to my HP1100 via linux but have not yet tried seeing whether I can send a document from a windows machine to my printer when I am running linux.  However, I am about to try soon.
[06:28] <aep> hi any ideas why my Horiz/Vert settings in xorg.conf are ignored with kubuntu's X server but work fine on any other distri ?
[06:28] <draik> hagus, if you need help with that let me know
[06:28] <DaSkreech> draik: There you go :) And if you follow hagus's trail I'm sure his wife would apprectite it very much :)
[06:29] <BluesKaj> anyone? kde doesn't see my cd/dvd drive in systems settings !
[06:29] <draik> DaSkreech geez....
[06:29] <DaSkreech> :-D
[06:29] <dr_willis> for you cups users - ya may want to read at ---->  http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2117/
[06:29] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: does it turn up in the BIOS?
[06:30] <hagus> ty DaSkreech and draik :)
[06:30] <BluesKaj> it's ok in windows
[06:30] <draik> you're welcome hagus
[06:30] <draik> hagus, I have networked a printer with windows <-> windows, windows <-> linux and linux <-> linux
[06:31] <draik> hagus, let me know when you're going to be working with the printer and I will help you set it up for sharing
[06:31] <DaSkreech> draik: Never linux <-> windows?
[06:31] <gan|y|med> since i updated kde (i suppose it is the update, as everthing had worked fine before), i cannot print from openoffice. all apps using the kde printing facility work. any ideas?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Do you have a /dev/cdrom ?
[06:31] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech,no
[06:31] <draik> DaSkreech, I did. Why not?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> draik: Just checking
[06:32] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Hmm that's Funky. What Cdrom?
[06:32] <gan|y|med> ok, simple
[06:32] <gan|y|med> i cannot print from openoffice. why?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> this is the message in System settings admin mode :An error occurred during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module
[06:33] <draik> DaSkreech, I used CUPS to do it and I managed to share the printer as I saw fit for whatever OS I'm running
[06:33] <draik> DaSkreech, I only keep winxp on this desktop for my gf. Other than that it would have been long gone
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Sweet :) I got cups running across a network for multiple computers and felt pretty good about myself :)
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Course I never print
[06:33] <draik> same here
[06:34] <draik> I print
[06:34] <DaSkreech> draik: Why does she need it?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Which KDe?
[06:34] <draik> She feels intimidation from The Tux
[06:35] <BluesKaj> dunno DaSkreech
[06:35] <gan|y|med> so does anybody have problems with printing from openoffice?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> You don't know which KDE you upgraded to?
[06:35] <gan|y|med> like clickung on print and nothing happens...
[06:35] <DaSkreech> draik: give her a Tux doll to ease her over :)
[06:35] <draik> gan|y|med, I don't have any issues with printing
[06:35] <gan|y|med> 3.5.2 i think. the latest
[06:36] <hagus> draik, I am back - my experiment was not successful.
[06:36] <BluesKaj> I didn't purposely upgrade KDE , DaSkreech
[06:36] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Did you upgrade anything?
[06:36] <hagus> I guess that I need to set up the linux part of it first?
[06:36] <gan|y|med> kubuntu packages, dapper. printing over cups 1.2.2 (i think) over ipp. it used to work
[06:36] <BluesKaj> just apt
[06:36] <hagus> I have had a windows network already.
[06:36] <draik> DaSkreech, I think I will give her that Tux doll... something about 6'1 would do fine...
[06:36] <draik> *6'11"
[06:36] <draik> Hagus
[06:37] <hagus> It still works when I boot my cmputer from windows
[06:37] <draik> here is what you need to do
[06:37] <dr_willis> CUPS has been tweaked/crippled in dapper a little bit.   http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418    mentions how to restore it back to a more normal/sane default cups setup.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You used apt to upgrade or you upgraded apt?
[06:37] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, KDE vers is 3.5.3
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Ok
[06:37] <administrador> In this site   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS?highlight=%28grub%29  they order to edit menu.Ist
[06:37] <gan|y|med> dr_willis: i know this. but why the hell doesn't it work anymore? it has worked in dapper. i got it working yesterday for all kde apps
[06:38] <draik> DaSkreech, she's at work right now. She won't be home for another 9 hours. That's not a bad idea. I will just sit and wait by her door
[06:38] <BluesKaj> just the repos
[06:38] <hagus> hagus does have slow learning skills.
[06:38] <draik> what have you done so far hagus?
[06:38] <administrador> but my OS doesn't it leave
[06:38] <draik> hagus, actually let me know your configuration. Printer connects to what OS and what is the other OS you want to share it to
[06:39] <dr_willis> administrador,  Huh?
[06:39] <hagus> I have managed with DaSkreech's advice to look at the winxp puters using Samba
[06:39] <draik> dr_willis, wasn't that clear enought for you?!?!
[06:39] <dr_willis> draik,  Huh? :)
[06:39] <hagus> Ok - printer is connected to linux machine
[06:39] <administrador> I want edit: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <draik> hagus, what is the other computer?
[06:39] <dr_willis> administrador,  sudo kedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:39] <hagus> other computers are xp
[06:39] <dr_willis> or
[06:39] <administrador> but my Kubuntu doesn't permit
[06:39] <dr_willis> administrador,  sudo kate  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:40] <dr_willis> from the terminal.
[06:40] <hagus> I have desktops and laptops
[06:40] <administrador> When I make Save
[06:40] <hagus> All run xp.
[06:40] <administrador> appears one message
[06:41] <hagus> I just added kubuntu on this one (which normally runs winxp).
[06:41] <administrador> says: "You don't have permition to save the file"
[06:41] <DaSkreech> administrador: What did you edit it with?
[06:41] <administrador> I want change
[06:41] <administrador> default 0 ...
[06:41] <administrador> to
[06:41] <administrador> default 5 ...
[06:41] <hagus> However, since I can only boot up linux or windows, what I am looking for is something that will enable me to network when I am running linux.
[06:42] <dr_willis> administrador,  note the EXACT COMMAND we were telling you to use.....    'sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst'          - enter THAT in a shell. to edit that file.   Note the use of SUDO
[06:43] <gan|y|med> ok, that doesn't bring much
[06:46] <BluesKaj> kde is down again
[06:46] <BluesKaj> kde.org
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> hagus: Wireless network ?
[06:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Good evening everyone!
[06:47] <gan|y|med> i am sorry for saying this again ( i am despaired), but could anybody think of a reason, why printing would work from kde apps but not from openoffice (other than ooo not being a "native")
[06:48] <gan|y|med> ?
[06:48] <dr_willis> gan|y|med,  perhaps theres a OOo setting to use the CUPS system?
[06:49] <gan|y|med> not much to change there. i have change from stcolor (gimpprint i think) to gutenprint... could this be a reason?
[06:49] <dr_willis> no idea. I tend to use abiword.
[06:49] <gan|y|med> not really an alternative for me, i think
[06:52] <aep>  any ideas why my Horiz/Vert settings in xorg.conf are ignored with ubuntu's X server but work fine on any other distri ?
[06:52] <aep> oh that whas the old quastion
[06:52] <aep>  why does Xorg ( only the org of ubuntu) ognore any vert/refresh  settings in xorg.conf  ( i didnt start any thnird party programm with Xorg, just the pure Xorg is configured with 75Hz and starts with 85)
[06:53] <dr_willis> how are you even testing/proveing that aep ?
[06:53] <aep> DISPLAY=":0"  xrandr
[06:54] <aep> gives back 1024x768@85
[06:54] <dr_willis> and you want it to be 75?
[06:55] <aep> yes
[06:55] <gan|y|med> btw, how do i get those nice small 2 line icons back on my task bar?
[06:55] <dr_willis> it could be its seeing you rmonitor cxan handle higher/more (X is getting the specs from the monitor) so its using those.
[06:55] <aep> dr_willis: i comnfigured corect refrashe rate
[06:56] <Smooph> !mp3
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <aep> becouse my monitor doesnt support 85
[06:56] <dr_willis> but X can get the info straight from the monitor.   I aint messed with it in ages.
[06:56] <dr_willis> Odd that its reading it wrong.
[06:56] <aep> works on non-ubuntu distris
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> My monitor is supposed to run at 60 (but can run at 75) the only way I can get it run correctly is with the right modeline
[06:56] <aep> did you patch Xorg with some extra stuff?
[06:56] <dr_willis> boot a live cd. and see what their xorgs look like.
[06:56] <aep> crapy
[06:57] <aep> with ubuntu live cd
[06:57] <dr_willis> I never patched anything.
[06:57] <aep> works fine with knoppix
[06:57] <aep> well you=developers
[06:57] <dr_willis> copy/compare its xorg over.
[06:57] <dr_willis> Im not a developer in any way shapw or form.
[06:57] <dr_willis> :)
[06:57] <aep> ye ok :)
[06:57] <dr_willis> Im a hobbiest.
[06:57] <aep> my xorg.conf is ok its the same i have with gentoo and this works, on the same version of Xorg
[06:57] <dr_willis> Ive 'borrowed' xorg configs from different live cd's and compared them.
[06:58] <dr_willis> you are using the ideitical xorg.conf file?
[06:58] <aep> yes
[06:58] <dr_willis> what video card is this?
[06:58] <aep> nvidia
[06:58] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: You mean getting the icons in two lines instead of one?
[06:59] <dr_willis> You got the nvidia drivers installed?
[06:59] <gan|y|med> yes
[06:59] <aep> dr_willis: yep
[06:59] <aep> dr_willis: glx is on, everything fine
[06:59] <BluesKaj> what's the cmd for installing tar.bz2 files ?
[06:59] <gan|y|med> it was changed with the last update
[06:59] <dr_willis> could be a bugglet with the nvidia drivers, or xorg.  but not sure how to prove it either way. But a live cd should NOT be setting its xorg.conf to use the 'nvidia' driver.
[06:59] <opsidao> BluesKaj: bz2 files are not to be installed by any con crete program
[06:59] <opsidao> just compressed files
[07:00] <gan|y|med> yoi cannot "install" them
[07:00] <aep> dr_willis: nope dosnt work with vesa either
[07:00] <aliasfred> BluesKaj: tar xvjf yourfilename.tar.bz2
[07:00] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: Configure the panel to use a custom size of 48 pixels
[07:00] <gan|y|med> but that will just give you the decompressed file
[07:00] <gan|y|med> DaSkreech: thx, i'll try it
[07:00] <DaSkreech> sure
[07:01] <BluesKaj> thx guys
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> aep: Modeline "1024x768@75" 85.52 1024 1056 1376 1408 768 782 792 807 (put that in section "monitor" - and change all instances of 1024x768 in section "screen" to 1024x768@75
[07:01] <aep> i dont like it but i will try
[07:03] <aep> gonne read on modelines didnt need them till now
[07:03] <gan|y|med> DaSkreech: what icons exactly. the ones for the desktop are already 48 pixels of size. and there is no custom option
[07:03] <Smooph> h3sp4wn: what exactly do you want ?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: Where are you?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: the config for panel?
[07:04] <h3sp4wn> Smooph: huh ?
[07:04] <aliasfred> helper/helpee confusion is my guess :)
[07:04] <Smooph> h3sp4wn: I saw your post and did not see your question what do you want ?
[07:04] <Smooph> ohhh ok!
[07:04] <Smooph> sry about that
[07:05] <gan|y|med> it's called "look" here
[07:07] <filippo> interna
[07:08] <DaSkreech> gan|y|med: Umm.. ok Well look in the config for the panel and change the size to 48 pixels :)
[07:10] <gan|y|med> sorry, cannot find it
[07:10] <gan|y|med> you mean panel like panel with all the menus, right? (translated version)
[07:10] <Tokeiito> labas vakaras
[07:11] <XVampireX> XGL in Kubuntu = good idea?
[07:11] <XVampireX> I mean, does it work well?
[07:12] <haider> XVampireX: Yes
[07:12] <dr_willis> I would pass on it  XVampireX  :P
[07:12] <haider> it works fine
[07:12] <aliasfred> i have to set it up to try, but i get over the fear to break it :)
[07:12] <dr_willis> i see way too many people saying it dont work fine. Lol! :P
[07:13] <dr_willis> So i guess 'it depends'
[07:14] <haider> XVampireX: http://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/06/02/how-to-compizxgl-on-kubuntu-dapper-nvidia/ <--- this works fine
[07:14] <XVampireX> haider: thanks :)
[07:14] <dr_willis> pay atteition to what you enable.. so you can undo it later.
[07:14] <haider> XVampireX: Np! ;)
[07:14] <dr_willis> :)
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> XVampireX: What video card are you using ?
[07:15] <haider> XVampireX: Btw, you have nvidia or ati?
[07:15] <XVampireX> nvidia
[07:15] <haider> then it should work fine
[07:15] <XVampireX> I'm lucky cause ATI drivers suck
[07:15] <haider> it did here
[07:16] <ErikTheRed> the ATI drivers aren't as bad as some would lead you to believe
[07:16] <gan|y|med> maybe you should try the latest ones
[07:16] <ErikTheRed> they've gotten tons better recently
[07:16] <opsidao> when they allow GXL+Composite maybe I'll give a try to ATI
[07:17] <aliasfred> ErikTheRed: in relation with them being bought by amd, or completly unrelated ?
[07:17] <XVampireX> ErikTheRed: I heard they really got better, but they still suck... Last time I talked to someone with ATI drivers couldn't even play half decently in Sauerbraten
[07:17] <ErikTheRed> oh i'll agree nvidia drivers still win hands down
[07:18] <ErikTheRed> i only own nvidia cards
[07:18] <ErikTheRed> but from what my friend has told me they have gotten better in some areas
[07:18] <dr_willis> I hope the possible AMD+ATI merger will smack ATI in the head so they get better linux support.
[07:18] <ErikTheRed> yeah but we won't see any tangible results from that merger for a least another year or two
[07:19] <aliasfred> dr_willis: amd is quite linux friendly, no ?
[07:19] <MasterBrack> hi all... i'm having some problems with my audio.  i can hear input from my mic, but i'm not getting any mp3 playback
[07:19] <XVampireX> Yeah, they should be
[07:19] <dr_willis> aliasfred,  compared to how INTEL treats everyone.. (including Linux)  Yes. :P
[07:19] <XVampireX> !mp3 > MasterBrack
[07:19] <dr_willis> They all could be more Linux-friendly!
[07:19] <mighty-d> hi, i have a little problem running tvtime, i can get it to work if i go sudo tvtime , i want to be able to run tvtime without sudo, how can i change tvtime to a video group so i can run it being a regular user?, i changed tvtime to video group and i'm on that group too, but even if tvtime starts i get no video
[07:19] <aliasfred> dr_willis: :)
[07:20] <dr_willis> mighty-d,  could be a permission on a /dev/entry thats causing theproblem
[07:20] <gan|y|med> ok, thx a lot. ciao
[07:20] <ErikTheRed> MasterBrack: what are you using to play your MP3s?
[07:20] <MasterBrack> amarok
[07:20] <ErikTheRed> did you install the necessary codecs to play MP3s?
[07:20] <MasterBrack> i tried xmms as well
[07:21] <mighty-d> yes i think so, so i just have to change /dev/video0 to video group?
[07:21] <MasterBrack> yeah i just installed a codec pack
[07:21] <XVampireX> MasterBrack: did ubotu send a PM?
[07:21] <MasterBrack> yeah
[07:21] <XVampireX> So follow it
[07:21] <aliasfred> MasterBrack: what about free format like .ogg, do you hear them ok ?
[07:21] <mighty-d> dr_willis yes i think so, so i just have to change /dev/video0 to video group?
[07:21] <uniq> mighty-d: is it not in the video group by default?
[07:22] <mighty-d> dr_willis wait i'll check it out
[07:22] <aliasfred> MasterBrack: in fact my question, is do you hear any sound from your computer, except the echo from your mic
[07:22] <MasterBrack> no
[07:22] <MasterBrack> just the input from mic
[07:22] <dr_willis> mighty-d,  or ya could 'suid' the binary
[07:22] <ErikTheRed> no KDE sounds or anything?
[07:22] <MasterBrack> so obviously the sound works, i just have a feeling i have something configured wrong
[07:22] <MasterBrack> no kde sounds
[07:22] <MasterBrack> the only sounds i get are from pc speaker
[07:22] <mighty-d> dr_willis yes it is
[07:23] <MasterBrack> rather, the only sounds i get from kde come out of the pc speaker
[07:23] <mighty-d> crw-rw---- 1 root video 81, 0 2006-08-07 06:34 video0
[07:23] <ErikTheRed> and you can hear things from the mic fine?
[07:23] <MasterBrack> yep
[07:23] <MasterBrack> perfectly
[07:23] <dr_willis> mighty-d,  if the binary is suid it should be able to run as root.. but that could be a security issue.
[07:23] <ErikTheRed> strange
[07:23] <MasterBrack> i installed the libxine-extracodecs, and that didn't fix anything
[07:23] <MasterBrack> yeah its wierd
[07:23] <aliasfred> ther echoed microphone is likely only the sound card loop back, aka not even going thru the OS
[07:23] <ErikTheRed> well if you're not even getting kde sounds it's probably not a codec issue
[07:23] <MasterBrack> yeah i figured as much
[07:23] <mighty-d> dr_willis: what should i do?
[07:23] <haider> maybe alsa problem?
[07:24] <aliasfred> MasterBrack: your issue is the sound config, before the mp3 specific stuf
[07:24] <MasterBrack> yeah
[07:24] <ErikTheRed> any idea what sound card you are running?
[07:24] <dr_willis> mighty-d,  try  sudo chmod +s /path/to/thatbinary     then see if ya can run it as a user.
[07:24] <MasterBrack> i have the soundblaster live 5.1 surround
[07:24] <MasterBrack> sb0220 for specifics
[07:24] <mighty-d> dr_willis: ok, im gonna do it, but this is the file before that -rwxr-xr-x 1 root video<PHONE_NUMBER>-04-30 09:42 tvtime
[07:24] <ErikTheRed> hmm i would think that would work out of the box
[07:25] <ErikTheRed> i know my audigy 2 zs did fine with no tweaks
[07:25] <MasterBrack> yeah i read that it works for most
[07:25] <ErikTheRed> pop open the mixers and check to see what you have in there
[07:25] <ErikTheRed> *mixer
[07:25] <mighty-d> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/mighty-d/.tvtime/tvtime.xml"
[07:25] <mighty-d> oops i haven't seen this
[07:25] <MasterBrack> well, most things are turned up, because i figured i'd try to get any sound i could
[07:26] <MasterBrack> i wonder if its because i have another card built into my motherboard?
[07:26] <ErikTheRed> you should probably disable the onboard sound in the bios if you haven't already
[07:26] <MasterBrack> or maybe it has to do with the 'master channel' i don't know
[07:26] <MasterBrack> i haven't done that, least i don't think so
[07:27] <ErikTheRed> sometimes having two soundcards activated can cause problems
[07:27] <MasterBrack> ok well i'll give that a shot real quick
[07:27] <ErikTheRed> alright
[07:27] <MasterBrack> thanks so far... brb
[07:30] <aep> another question: glxgears is extremly slow
[07:31] <trappist> aep: glxinfo | grep rendering
[07:31] <trappist> aep: you can't really tell by looking at it.  you could be getting a million fps and you can't tell because your screen only refreshes, say, 60x per second
[07:32] <mighty-d> dr_willis: THANKS A LOT!!!
[07:32] <aep> dri is enabled and all glxinfo look good
[07:32] <MasterBrack> back
[07:32] <ErikTheRed> any luck?
[07:32] <aep> well i'm gonne test it as soon as i have a gfx game installed
[07:32] <MasterBrack> disabled the onboard; apparently last time i just disabled the front panel for audio
[07:32] <MasterBrack> gonna test in a second
[07:32] <MasterBrack> yesssss
[07:33] <MasterBrack> thank you very much erik
[07:33] <ErikTheRed> glad that worked
[07:33] <MasterBrack> sweet
[07:33] <MasterBrack> now i can hear armin van buuren on surround
[07:33] <MasterBrack> thanks a ton
[07:33] <ErikTheRed> nice, i like Armin too
[07:33] <ErikTheRed> anything to get away from the monotony of work
[07:33] <aep> well ist so slow i didnt get a result within 15 minutes of run
[07:33] <MasterBrack> haha
[07:34] <MasterBrack> well now that that works
[07:34] <MasterBrack> i can go about my day
[07:34] <MasterBrack> can't do anything without music
[07:34] <MasterBrack> thanks again, peace
[07:34] <ErikTheRed> later
[07:37] <opsidao> some kubuntu core member here? I have a xdg related issue...
[07:39] <QMario_> Will XSane make it possible to convert its scans to PDF?
[07:39] <haider> MasterBrack: armin van buuren?
[07:40] <Tokeiito> what soft i can use for PC management using mic and voice
[07:40] <haider> MasterBrack: I meet the guy some years ago in Denmark! :D
[07:40] <dr_willis> QMario_,  ya get a huge pdf thats just a lot of large pictures. :P Joy!
[07:41] <_martin> ok.. I can manually mount CDs but k3b appears to be on the brink. Kubuntu can see and use CDs, K3b can't
[07:41] <_martin> I've tried re-installing.
[07:41] <opsidao> _ma
[07:41] <opsidao> ups
[07:41] <opsidao> _martin: have you tried running it with sudo
[07:42] <_martin> That is how I'm running it, yes
[07:42] <_martin> I get k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[07:42] <opsidao> no idead then :(
[07:42] <_martin> K3b still loads, but says there is no writeable media
[07:44] <MrBallZ> hi, I have aproblem mounting an external USB drive on my server , thru NFS on my laptop, it tells me " Permision denied " and I have mounted another nfs share on the same server but that's a normal hdd inside the server, what can this be ?
[07:46] <justaguy> howdie, 1st time here .......
[07:50] <Agios> we've been waiting for you :)
[07:51] <_martin> ... ok... for the past 15.. nay all day I've been loading apps through a terminal with sudo why now do I get ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.???
[07:57] <uniq> _martin: what does  'echo $DISPLAY' output?
[07:58] <pehses> _martin you can use 'kdesu' instead, that will work
[07:59] <MrBallZ> _martin: maybe your in sudo mode,  type this in console   sudo -K  , and they try again ...
[08:00] <pyret> when i start gxine movie player it says that libX11.so is missing...can anyone help me please?
[08:00] <_martin> uniq, nothing...
[08:00] <_martin> pehses, kdesu cannot connect to X server
[08:01] <_martin> and MrBallZ, that didn't work...
[08:01] <pehses> strange...
[08:01] <pansy> hi folks
[08:01] <_martin> aah.. no. Sorry.. don't worry. I was running it from terminal as root. Not the logged on user.
[08:02] <pyret> hello
[08:02] <pansy> how long will it take until kile 1.9 comes into the kubuntu repository?
[08:02] <uniq> _martin: try 'export DISPLAY=:0', then try again.
[08:02] <_martin> uniq, ta. I've sorted it =)
[08:03] <_martin> I'm getting irritated and not thinking. That was the problem.
[08:03] <uniq> _martin: if you did that with export, it will only last for that teminal session. however new terminal sessions may have  DISPLAY set correctly.
[08:04] <olly> hi
[08:09] <Tokeiito> what software i can use for kubuntu control via voice?
[08:09] <h3sp4wn> !info kile edgy
[08:09] <ubotu> kile: KDE Integrated LaTeX Environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:1.9.1-1 (edgy), package size 1807 kB, installed size 6876 kB
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> pansy: end of october (looks like it is in edgy)
[08:10] <farous> pansy: if you have the backport repos you might check it if it was backported
[08:13] <Tokeiito> xm. ok. then: is it posible to control my Kubuntu with voice?
[08:14] <fritsch> Tokeiito: try kttsd
[08:14] <fritsch> !kttsd
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about kttsd - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:14] <opsidao> fritsch: that's a text to speech daemon, isn't it?
[08:15] <opsidao> not exatcly what he asked for I think
[08:15] <aliasfred> KDE Accessibility Project - KTTS - KDE Text-to-Speech System <- this is text to speech
[08:15] <fritsch> opsidao: text to speach system for kde
[08:15] <opsidao> so, it's not to control the computer with voice
[08:15] <aliasfred> he asked more some somthing like speech to text :)
[08:15] <fritsch> aliasfred: perhaps it works? i do not know of a other
[08:16] <fritsch> aliasfred: there are also some additional plugins
[08:16] <Cornellius> Is there an easy way to upgrade the kernel to a newer version ?
[08:16] <aliasfred> fritsch: maybe it works, in fact it likely works, simply it is not at all the same thing :)
[08:16] <satempler> ok the repos are really slow
[08:16] <aliasfred> one  can read text loudely, while the other is able to write text as i say it :)
[08:17] <aliasfred> interesting just yesterday another guy was asking for the same feature
[08:17] <satempler> they are timing out on me and reporting that i am downloading at 12KB/s
[08:17] <satempler> what gives
[08:17] <satempler> why have they been so slow for so long
[08:18] <Hawkwind> Change mirrors.  They aren't slow here at all
[08:18] <aliasfred> btw my dns doesnt answer to any kde.org, am i the only one ? i know other doesnt have this issue
[08:19] <satempler> there are no mirrors for security.ubuntu.com
[08:21] <outquake> hi every one!
[08:21] <Tokeiito> ok thank you
[08:21] <Tokeiito> i've found very good article about this
[08:22] <aliasfred> Tokeiito: really ? url ?
[08:22] <Tokeiito> http://applications.linux.com/applications/05/01/18/2148234.shtml
[08:22] <aliasfred> thansk
[08:25] <aliasfred> http://perlbox.org/ <- Perlbox Voice is an voice enabled application to bring your desktop under your command.
[08:27] <outquake> weirdo
[08:27] <outquake> how a re you?
[08:27] <satempler> ok who is incharge of the security.ubuntu.com servers
[08:28] <magical_trevsky> Hi, I'm in the middle of an install and a little bit confused with the partitioning
[08:29] <aep> gfx is hell slow any idea?
[08:29] <aep> dri is set up
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> magical_trevsky, is the system partitioned right now
[08:29] <aep> glxinfo is alright
[08:29] <aep> its a [GeForce FX 5200]
[08:29] <TheGateKeeper> magical_trevsky: manually partitioning?
[08:29] <magical_trevsky> I have a windows installation which I would like to keep, so have selected resize hda1 and use freed space, but is the slider adjusting the size of the windows partition, or for adjusting the size of the linux one to be made?
[08:30] <magical_trevsky> (also, is this what I should be doing to preserve my windows installation (it uses ntfs)?)
[08:30] <aep> any ideas why its so slow even if dri and everything is fine
[08:30] <aep> ?
[08:31] <satempler> ok this is pissing me off i am trying to report a problem and I am not getting a response
[08:31] <magical_trevsky> Admiral_Chicago: there is just one big ntfs partition at the moment, which I would like to keep, but make smaller
[08:31] <ErikTheRed> magical_trevsky: you're going to have to resize the partition
[08:32] <ErikTheRed> i think the installer can do it (the alternate installer, not the desktop one)
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> if you move the slider, it will do both, resize the windows partition and make a free space
[08:32] <ErikTheRed> but i've had problems with it not working in the past
[08:32] <Surger> Can someone help me with Dapper's xorg and nvidia drivers? I cannot get xorg to load the glx module.
[08:32] <narvik86> no ntfs write support IMO
[08:32] <magical_trevsky> right, so the slider is the size of the windows partition, not the size of the linux one to be made?
[08:33] <narvik86> possible do resize ntfs partitions?
[08:33] <ErikTheRed> ntfs-3g offers great ntfs write support
[08:33] <ErikTheRed> Surger: are you trying to install the latest driver manually?
[08:33] <Surger> ErikTheRed: 8762 manually - but let me rather go ask in the xorg channel
[08:34] <ErikTheRed> i couldn't get that damn driver to install properly either
[08:34] <ErikTheRed> so  let me know if you find anything out, as i had the exact same error
[08:34] <hagus> I am delighted with draik's painstakingly talking me through my networking difficulties.  He has been able to point me in the right direction and gave me hours of his own time to help me.  Thanks to draik.
[08:35] <Surger> ErikTheRed: Ok - I have to run a custom kernel so I have no other options. :(
[08:35] <draik> you're welcome hagus
[08:35] <satempler> ok this is pissing me off i am trying to report a problem and I am not getting a response
[08:35] <ErikTheRed> ah i see
[08:35] <hagus> I shall report on further progress later, once I have been able to dislodge some of the other users from their machines :)
[08:35] <ErikTheRed> yeah i was trying to run 2.6.17 and that's when i ran into the driver not working
[08:38] <Johncro13> okay, so I run ' wpa_supplicant -h' and I get an error about libc6 not being configured.  Anybody know about this?
[08:39] <aep> 3d performance is hell week with gf fx 5200.   glxinfo shows everything is fine
[08:40] <aep> http://rafb.net/paste/results/CSIRBF13.html
[08:40] <aep> glxinfo
[08:43] <magical_trevsky> apparently partition number 2 is gonna be ext3, and 5 is gonna be swap, so what are 3 and 4? I'm guessing 1 is where windows'll stay, right?
[08:44] <Nomad411> I'm considering buying a laptop, probably a macbook.  Anyone here running Kubuntu on a macbook?
[08:44] <madsP> Good day / evening. im on win os now . i have a little problem with the kopete msn / irc client. everytime i start it iget a complete system freeze. it worked fine yesterday. the only thing i can do to reboot is hold down the power button. i have tried to remove and add the program again , only to experience the same result.
[08:44] <uniq> Nomad411: i don't, but i run kubuntu on a ibook, and i'm very pleased :)
[08:45] <gplfighter> madsP: Version?
[08:45] <Nomad411> madsP: I had that kind of thing happen to me before too.  I usually ended up using Gaim.  Kopete may need more maturity
[08:45] <Nomad411> uniq: thanks :)
[08:45] <_martin> has anyone had any experience with the ACX111 Texus intrusment wireless network chip and getting it to work. with either ndiswrapper or the drivers at http://acx100.sourceforge.net
[08:45] <opsidao> madsP: you may try to remove ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete to "forget" all configs...
[08:46] <uniq> _martin: yes, i used the acx100 driver a year ago or something. worked nicely.
[08:46] <madsP> sorry , i cant tell the version. i switched over to os win now. but strange is that it usually works fine. opsidao , i will write down what you wrote there
[08:46] <Nomad411> uniq: I do web development and I need a more mobile and stable machine for working.  I wonder if I'll enjoy OS X as much as I always did linux, or even more
[08:47] <gplfighter> madsP: is it n apt-get kopete?
[08:47] <uniq> Nomad411: i can't stand osx.
[08:47] <Nomad411> lol
[08:47] <gplfighter> from the kubuntu repo's?
[08:47] <Nomad411> I wonder if I should invest so much..
[08:47] <_martin> uniq, you used the driver then rather than ndiswrapper?
[08:47] <madsP> ok yes thats where i did it
[08:47] <trip> Anyone else have issues with gaims fonts/configuration after upgrade kubuntu?
[08:47] <trip> I noticed there were numerous gtk upgrades so I thought that may have caused it
[08:47] <uniq> _martin: i used the driver, yes. never used ndiswrapper.
[08:47] <madsP> or no the add reomove i think in the upper left menu in the buttom
[08:47] <_martin> uniq, and that was under kubuntu as well?
[08:48] <uniq> _martin: that was debian, but it's much about the same.
[08:48] <_martin> Ok. ta.
[08:48] <uniq> Nomad411: I love apple hardware, can't say the same about osx, though.
[08:49] <Nomad411> uniq: Ahh ok, as I thought too :)
[08:50] <Nomad411> uniq: So you think teh extra $ are worth it.
[08:50] <gplfighter> madsP: srry. problems with.... kopete here
[08:50] <gplfighter> wait a second please
[08:51] <uniq> Nomad411: depends what the alternative is. I love my ibook 12", tiny and shiny. White, not the same black plastic design as everyone else. Only thing i miss is a rs232 port.
[08:51] <Surger> ErikTheRed: I may have the solution - got to test it out first. brb
[08:53] <ErikTheRed> Nomad411: what laptops are you wondering about?
[08:54] <Nomad411> No particular model, it's more a "Do I pay more for a macbook and have all 3 OSes available, OR get more HD for my $ by going Compaq or Toshiba?"
[08:55] <Nomad411> nice to have the 3 OSes so that i can test websites on all 3
[08:55] <uniq> i like compaq too. :)
[08:55] <ErikTheRed> well the only real downside to the macbook is the price preium
[08:55] <ErikTheRed> *premium
[08:55] <ErikTheRed> and the exploding batteries :-P
[08:56] <Nomad411> ???   :)
[08:56] <Lars_F>  How do I force a redetection of network cards, or add it manually?
[08:56] <uniq> dies macbook have that problem too?
[08:56] <uniq> i remember i just missed that on my ibook.
[08:56] <ErikTheRed> yeah i've seen quite a few stories of macbooks having batteries that catch on fire as well
[08:56] <ErikTheRed> along with the Dells of course
[08:56] <Nomad411> So teh macbook is more of a "winter" computer?  :)
[08:56] <Nomad411> I wouldn't go Dell
[08:56] <ErikTheRed> lol
[08:57] <ErikTheRed> why not?
[08:57] <ErikTheRed> most people i know with them like them a lot
[08:57] <Nomad411> really?  I must know different people.. :)  Actually, it's more from reading comments
[08:57] <ErikTheRed> i have an Asus myself, which the power brick just died on
[08:57] <Nomad411> maybe there's more of them out there so there's more comments
[08:57] <Surger> ErikTheRed: I have it working. :)
[08:58] <ErikTheRed> sweet
[08:58] <ErikTheRed> what'd you have to do differently?
[08:58] <Surger> It's a path problem
[08:58] <ErikTheRed> ah
[08:58] <MrBallZ> hi, I have aproblem mounting an external USB drive on my server , thru NFS on my laptop, it tells me " Permision denied " and I have mounted another nfs share on the same server but that's a normal hdd inside the server, what can this be ?
[09:00] <Surger> ErikTheRed: Do this : sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run
[09:00] <Surger> ErikTheRed: cd /usr/X11R6/lib; mv modules modules.old; ln -s /usr/lib/xorg/modules modules
[09:00] <madsP> but any ideas on why it (my kopete) suddenly dont work anymore ? i didnt change anything before i exitted it the last time
[09:01] <Nomad411> madsP: Did you try starting it from the command line to see if there are any messages?
[09:01] <Surger> ErikTheRed: cd /usr/X11R6; mv bin bin.old; ln -s ../bin .
[09:02] <uniq> MrBallZ: i would think that is a permission problem, can users other than root read the partiton contents locally on the laptop?
[09:02] <uniq> MrBallZ: sorry, i mean locally on the server.
[09:02] <madsP> no , im new to using linux , and just used the double click method. what must i type to start it from the terminal ?
[09:02] <uniq> MrBallZ: is the filesystem ntfs?
[09:02] <Surger> ErikTheRed: Then run the nvidia installer again, enable the nvidia stuff in the xorg.conf file and you're done. :)
[09:03] <ErikTheRed> thanks
[09:03] <ErikTheRed> i'm at work right now, but i'll give that a try when i get home
[09:05] <ErikTheRed> title      Windows XP
[09:05] <ErikTheRed> root     (hd0,0)
[09:05] <ErikTheRed> chainloader      +1
[09:05] <ErikTheRed> the root line is assuming that windows is on the first partition on your first hard drive
[09:05] <uniq> i think that was in the wrong channel erikthered. :)
[09:06] <ErikTheRed> oh dear it was
[09:07] <MrBallZ> uniq: yes, locally in the server the user can mount it, and its FAT32
[09:07] <ubuntu> i just installed linux now.. too hard!!! compare to windows!
[09:08] <nnn0> :)
[09:08] <nnn0> for some i guess
[09:09] <ErikTheRed> it's easier and quicker than windows in my opinion
[09:09] <Johncro13> using Kubuntu Dapper flight7.  Issue: trying to get wifi using WPA_supplicant.  When I type ' wpa_supplicant -h', I get an error about libc6 not being configured.   Thanks.
[09:12] <farous> ur welcomed:)
[09:12] <Johncro13> ?
[09:13] <plhardy__> raphink:are you online ?
[09:13] <farous> Johncro13: why aren't you using the final release
[09:13] <raphink> I think I am
[09:14] <raphink> am I not?
[09:14] <raphink> ;)
[09:14] <Bin_Bash> can I install the last version of klamav?
[09:14] <Bin_Bash> Please help me, i'm new user of ubuntu.
[09:14] <plhardy__> raphink: -> linuxazur ?
[09:14] <raphink> you can install klamav
[09:15] <farous> Johncro13: did you have the latest updates?
[09:15] <raphink> as for installing the last version, well I don't think klamav stopped being developped
[09:16] <Anders287> when klamav stops developing, then you can :)
[09:16] <Bin_Bash> i'm trying but need dazuko module. I'm think my kernel not support!!! My kernel is 2.6.15-27
[09:17] <Ireclan_> What is the timeout on nicknames?
[09:17] <uniq> MrBallZ: make sure the UID on the laptop is the same as the UID on the server. or you have a group with same GIDs with read access.
[09:18] <Ireclan_> Does anyone know how long a ping timeout takes on this server?
[09:18] <uniq> MrBallZ: you can have a look at http://www.freeos.com/articles/3421/ for a simple guide.
[09:19] <Bin_Bash> how to make download the last version of kernel-sources using the apt-get?
[09:20] <TheGateKeeper> Bin_Bash: there are howto's on building kernels on the ubuntu forums
[09:20] <Ireclan_> Anyone?
[09:20] <farous> Bin_Bash: ubuntu freezes. ie no updates for the kernel from the official repos except for security reasons
[09:20] <Bin_Bash> TheGateKeeper: Ok, thank's.
[09:21] <Bin_Bash> I go try in the kernel.org
[09:21] <trappist> Bin_Bash: you don't need a new kernel for dazuko
[09:22] <trappist> Bin_Bash: you just build it against the source of the running kernel.  should work fine.
[09:22] <TheGateKeeper> Bin_Bash: mixture of info in the forums and kernel.org will probable get you to where you want to be :-)
[09:22] <farous> Bin_Bash: have a look at that too http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html
[09:23] <Bin_Bash> thank's, i'm see now!!!
[09:23] <Ireclan_> Anyone?
[09:24] <Ireclan_> Ping timeout length?
[09:24] <trappist> Bin_Bash: I just built dazuko successfully
[09:24] <_martin> Following http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX I come to make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` and I get *** No Targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[09:24] <_martin> I'm just following instructions =/
[09:25] <Bin_Bash> trappist: ok!
[09:28] <Chicory> Hey, everybody.
[09:28] <Ireclan> FINALLY!
[09:29] <Ireclan> OK......
[09:29] <Ireclan> I have a problem installing my printer.
[09:29] <Chicory> Hey, there's something really weird with some of my systems dialog windows -- all of the characters are replaced with blank boxes.
[09:29] <Chicory> It seems like there's something screwy with the font, but this has only happened after I updated yesterday.
[09:30] <Ireclan> Anyway, while trying to install my printer, I get the following error message:
[09:30] <damian_> !x
[09:30] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:31] <Chicory> Thanks, Damian.
[09:31] <GBK> i'm having problems with my usb memory stick not detected anymore when I plug it in
[09:31] <Ireclan> In the title bar, it says "Error- KDE Control Module"
[09:31] <Ireclan> Then:
[09:33] <vigilant_> nickserve hates me
[09:33] <vigilant_> :)
[09:33] <vigilant_> hello peeps
[09:33] <Hawkwind> Learn how to use it and it won't
[09:33] <vigilant_> i love kubuntu!
[09:33] <vigilant_> i dont want to "own" my nickname
[09:34] <vigilant_> i want it to be free like efnet
[09:34] <Hawkwind> Then anyone can take it
[09:34] <vigilant_> so it should be
[09:34] <Ireclan> Unable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-DeskJet_832C,hpijs] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[09:34] <Hawkwind> vigilant_: So drop the nick
[09:34] <vigilant_> why should i be able to own a word
[09:34] <vigilant_> noway
[09:34] <vigilant_> if i wanna be vigilant i should be able to
[09:35] <Hawkwind> vigilant_: I mean, drop the registration with nickserv
[09:35] <Ireclan> Shall I proceed with more information, or is that enough to diagnose the problem?
[09:35] <vigilant_> oh yeah
[09:35] <vigilant_> yeah im dropping it :)
[09:36] <Ireclan> Anyone?
[09:36] <yo_> hello !! where are the french people ??
[09:36] <Hawkwind> yo_: #Kubuntu-FR
[09:36] <yo_> yes it's logique ;-)
[09:36] <Ireclan> Anyone at all?
[09:36] <yo_> thanks , i am ney
[09:37] <yo_> new
[09:37] <Hawkwind> Ireclan: Patience.  If/When someone knows they will certainly help you
[09:40] <vigilant> i love kubuntu!
[09:40] <Ireclan> I would too, if I could print...
[09:42] <vigilant> you will be able to, cause there are lovable people developing it too!
[09:42] <vigilant> thank you developers:)
[09:42] <draik> Hey Hawkwind
[09:42] <MrBallZ> Question: I can't seem to share an external HDD over NFS, when an Internal HDD can be shared, any pointers to this solution?  External HDD is Fat32 and usb on a server in the same network as client that wants it mounted
[09:43] <vigilant> does anyone know how to get my gmail account work in my konqueror browser?
[09:44] <Hawkwind> draik: Good afternoon
[09:44] <vigilant> Question: does anyone know how to get my gmail account work in my konqueror browser? even
[09:44] <MrBallZ> vigilant: I think Konkeror isn't suported
[09:44] <Hawkwind> vigilant: What doesn't work about it ?
[09:44] <MrBallZ> only  IE and FF
[09:44] <vigilant> it isnt supported
[09:45] <Hawkwind> MrBallZ: Not true.  It works here
[09:45] <vigilant> aha
[09:45] <draik> Hawkwind, just thought I'd stop by and say "HI"
[09:46] <vigilant> i tried to use the dont check my browser link they provided, but then it started saying thatsome script was making my kubuntu slow and asked if i wanted to cancel the script 8 times or continue, i tried both, just shows the page but nothing clickable
[09:46] <trappist> Hawkwind: there is a difference between supported and 'works for me'
[09:46] <vigilant> I got the ordinary html page, but its impossible to go to settings from there
[09:46] <vigilant> since its html
[09:46] <vigilant> and not the scary scripts
[09:46] <Hawkwind> trappist: AFAIK gmail is supported in konqueror. If it wasn't it wouldn't work
[09:47] <vigilant> it says on their page that it isnt supported
[09:47] <vigilant> well, the page i got to anyway
[09:47] <vigilant> maybe there is some java package i need?
[09:47] <uniq> MrBallZ: mount the fat partition with the desired umask, to let others access it. Gentoo has a good explanation: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,NTFS)#umask:_octal_file_permissions
[09:47] <vigilant> or some other script stuff
[09:47] <trappist> Hawkwind: 'supported' means they decided to make sure it works in the browser.  ff and ie are supported because there's browser-specific code, lots of tests, etc.  they haven't put any effort into konqueror, so some things will probably work and some won't
[09:48] <vigilant> should i give up and try to find a firefox for linux instead of konqueror?
[09:48] <Cornellius> I've downloaded a window decoration for KDE from KDE-LOOK, but I don't know where to unzip it. Anyone can help ?
[09:49] <spiffytech> Hey
[09:49] <vigilant> heya spiffy
[09:50] <narvik86> Cornellius: it should wrote in readme
[09:50] <spiffytech> My sound in Kubuntu has been delayed by ~.25 seconds always, and I've been trying to fix it, but now it's completely broken
[09:50] <vigilant> ooh narvik, i just moved from narvik XD
[09:50] <narvik86> :)
[09:50] <narvik86> but i'am 86 :)
[09:50] <spiffytech> I would try something like "alsaconf", but that doesn't seem to work in Kubuntu
[09:51] <vigilant> 86 years old??
[09:51] <knownstranger> .
[09:51] <vigilant> cool
[09:51] <vigilant> :)
[09:51] <narvik86> 1986 :)
[09:51] <fritsch> aliasfred:
[09:51] <vigilant> aha
[09:51] <fritsch> sorry
[09:51] <vigilant> and in poland hehe
[09:51] <vigilant> narvik is in norway u know?
[09:51] <narvik86> how do you know?
[09:51] <vigilant> im born in 80 myself
[09:52] <vigilant> cause i just moved from narvik this year.. and it was in norway then
[09:52] <narvik86> but how do you know that i'am from PL?
[09:52] <vigilant> /whois
[09:53] <vigilant> /whois narvik86
[09:53] <vigilant> well
[09:53] <narvik86> vigilant: Tobias B... :)
[09:53] <vigilant> ooh
[09:53] <vigilant> im noob :P
[09:53] <vigilant> my first kubuntu day so didnt look at stuff
[09:53] <narvik86> like me :)
[09:54] <apeman2020> ubotu: where is apeman2020
[09:54] <david_____> Hello all!
[09:55] <overdrive> hi
[09:55] <david_____> I need HELP!
[09:55] <narvik86> hi
[09:55] <david_____> Im new to kubuntu
[09:55] <david_____> and adept is only showing the installed packages,
[09:55] <david_____> it doesnt show others
[09:56] <david_____> I fetch updates but it stays the same
[09:56] <david_____> any ideas_
[09:56] <david_____> ?
[09:56] <narvik86> search by name
[09:56] <overdrive> I think u need to activate repositories
[09:56] <narvik86> searching works?
[09:57] <david_____> searching works, but it only shows installed packages\
[09:57] <vigilant> narvik: I cant answer pm cus im not a registered user or something :(
[09:57] <Hawkwind> vigilant: Identify to nickserv and you can accept pm's as your nick *is* registered
[09:57] <trappist> !register > vigilant
[09:58] <narvik86> vigilant: but it is similiar :)
[09:58] <trappist> nm
[09:58] <overdrive> if u installed kubuntu without internet connection (or wireless), repositories are deactivated
[09:58] <vigilant> !register
[09:58] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:58] <vigilant> !register vigilant
[09:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about register vigilant - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:58] <vigilant> hmm
[09:58] <vigilant> aha!
[09:58] <vigilant> rtfm!
[09:58] <GBK> how can I get kubuntu dapper back the way it was? I removed or added some things, now a lot of apps won't work as it used to
[09:59] <david_____> overdrive: that's it! how can i get them  activated?
[09:59] <narvik86> david_____: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:00] <Ireclan> I'm having printer problems.
[10:00] <overdrive> david_____ :on top, can u see menu "Expert"?
 Unable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-DeskJet_832C,hpijs] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.
[10:01] <david_____> overdrive: nope
[10:02] <trappist> GBK: try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[10:02] <vigilant_> im regggistered, may the fbi not get my email
[10:04] <overdrive> david______:close adept
[10:04] <david_____> overdrive: Im looking at the manage repositories list but i have no idea which one to choose
[10:04] <hagus> draik
[10:04] <draik> hagus
[10:04] <david_____> overdrive: done
[10:04] <overdrive> go MenuK > System > adept
[10:04] <hagus> It WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:04] <david_____> done
[10:04] <draik> congrats hagus
[10:04] <draik> I'm glas
[10:04] <draik> *glad
[10:04] <GBK> trappist: will do. will it restore the buggered things?
[10:06] <hagus> My wife can now print through my printer even if I am using linux on it rather than winxp :)
[10:06] <david_____> overdrive: now what?
[10:06] <hagus> So, DaSkreech, I shall be doubly happy tonight :)
[10:06] <draik> hagus, you are very welcome
[10:06] <DaSkreech> hagus: All right :)
[10:06] <overdrive> ok david
[10:06] <DaSkreech> draik: Right on :)
[10:07] <hagus> I can see her shared files too :)
[10:07] <hagus> So, I am in a very good mood.
[10:07] <overdrive> whats the firts option menu on your adept
[10:07] <DaSkreech> See if you can convince your girlfriend to give you a kiss for that as well.
[10:07] <overdrive> on top
[10:07] <DaSkreech> draik: Don't forget to open the tux suit ;-)
[10:07] <draik> DaSkreech, it's was easy, I did the same thing before. Besides, the wiki tutorial is a bit off
[10:07] <draik> LOL
[10:07] <david_____> adept>fetch updates
[10:07] <DaSkreech> Might be time to update it?
[10:08] <draik> DaSkreech, I am actually talking to my gf at this moment and she's wondering why I am lauging like a nut
[10:08] <DaSkreech> tell he Daskreech is a funny kook :)
[10:08] <DaSkreech> her
[10:08] <david_____> and below it, manage repositories
[10:08] <hagus> draik deserves a big smacker from his gf for the help that he gave me - :)
[10:08] <BluesKaj> ok guys , How do I upgrade from KDE 3.5.3 to 3.5.4 ?
[10:08] <overdrive> second? is admin repositories???
[10:08] <david_____> yes
[10:08] <overdrive> or similar
[10:08] <overdrive> ok
[10:08] <overdrive> click
[10:09] <faksta> if I may ask a question.. how do I mount an image (iso) in kubuntu. do I need some kind of 3rd party software or can the 'mount' thing be used here?
[10:09] <david_____> done
[10:09] <trappist> BluesKaj: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[10:09] <david_____> none of them are selected
[10:09] <overdrive> ok
[10:09] <trappist> faksta: sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /mnt/point
[10:09] <faksta> I'll try that, thanks!
[10:10] <Ireclan> Anyone here familiare with printer installation?
[10:10] <overdrive> now ... select all the lines who starts with "deb" push rigth button and press "Enable" option
[10:10] <vaka> how can i change the root password?
[10:10] <DaSkreech> draik:<whisper> Guess you never made it to the costume shop </whisper>
[10:10] <overdrive> I've spanish version
[10:10] <overdrive> XD
[10:10] <DaSkreech> vaka: There is no root password
[10:11] <vaka> i know
[10:11] <vaka> but there is a command
[10:11] <DaSkreech> !root
[10:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:11] <vaka> pwd root or some like this
[10:11] <DaSkreech> passwd root
[10:11] <david_____> overdrive: just deb or deb-src too?
[10:11] <faksta> passwd
[10:11] <faksta> :)
[10:11] <vaka> ty
[10:11] <overdrive> both
[10:12] <david_____> done
[10:12] <david_____> overdrive: hablas espanol_
[10:12] <david_____> ?
[10:12] <overdrive> si
[10:12] <overdrive> jeje
[10:12] <overdrive> soy espaol
[10:12] <BluesKaj> I've dL'd Konstruct, but how do I install the KDE UPgrade .. trappist, Ive been to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php and copied the reos there to the sources.list , but now what's next ?
[10:12] <BluesKaj> repos
[10:12] <Ireclan> *sigh*
[10:12] <david_____> jaajjajja
[10:12] <david_____> soy de venezuela
[10:12] <david_____> jajaja
[10:12] <overdrive> anda
[10:12] <overdrive> yo de espaa
[10:12] <vaka> yo soy espaol
[10:13] <david_____> saludos a la madre espana!
[10:13] <overdrive> jejeje
[10:13] <overdrive> igualmente
[10:13] <david_____> de donde sois_
[10:13] <vaka> barcelona
[10:13] <overdrive> tios pasaros por #kubuntu-es y alli podreis preguntar en espaol
[10:13] <david_____> que bien
[10:13] <hagus> The thing that really impressed me about the way in which draik led me through was how easy he made it - he did not even bark at me when I could not do simple things like find out the ip address of my computer - he told me how to do it.  I am most grateful. So, take a bow, DRAIK :)
[10:13] <david_____> Cool
[10:14] <_martin>  has anyone installed the acx100 drivers from http://acx100.sourceforge.net on kubtuntu. Or can you help uniq? when I come to make terminal just reports *** No targets specified and no mkaefile found. Stop/
[10:14] <Doodluv> you must ./configure
[10:14] <david_____> overdrive: thanks man! It's downloading headers now!
[10:14] <_martin> no such file or directory.
[10:14] <overdrive> david_____: ok !!!
[10:14] <trappist> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:15] <Ireclan> Anyone recieving this error when trying to install a new printer?
[10:15] <Doodluv> _martin: are you in the uncompressed directory, the top level of the source?
[10:15] <draik> vaka, si es posible creando una clave para root
[10:15] <greg> Hi you all. Is anyone in here making a living with Linux? I'm considering going to a tech scool and getting certified>
[10:15] <Ireclan>  <Ireclan> Unable to load the requested driver: Unable to create the Foomatic driver [HP-DeskJet_832C,hpijs] .  I type make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` and get the error
[10:15] <BluesKaj> thx trappist
[10:16] <draik> vaka, de nada
[10:16] <draik> vaka, para la proxima
[10:16] <Doodluv> thats the error you get if there is no make file, are you sure that is the src?
[10:16] <Doodluv> *makefile
[10:16] <draik> DaSkreech is what???
[10:17] <_martin> Doodluv: I am in the directory I unpacked the tarball
[10:17] <BluesKaj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. ??
[10:17] <draik> DaSkreech should use that money for typing courses!!!
[10:17] <soulrider> has anyone tried running utorrent with wine ?
[10:17] <DaSkreech> draik: Naaaw I'll just put in a spell check module to konversation
[10:17] <uniq> _martin: you shouldn't need to compile it yourself, it is included with kubuntu.
[10:17] <greg> DaSkreech: did you get aq certification? How are you making money?
[10:18] <DaSkreech> Or better yet just call K built in spell checker
[10:18] <draik> DaSkreech, that's a better idea... and voice recognition would be MUCH appreciated
[10:18] <Combatjuan> soulrider: This isn't an answer to your question, but ktorrent is my favorite bittorrent client.  It's quite nice.
[10:18] <uniq> _martin: the module name is 'acx_pci', if you insert the card it should be automatically loaded.
[10:18] <BluesKaj> ok working now
[10:18] <DaSkreech> greg: training and setting up servers and scripts for small clients. I'm looking at LPI certification
[10:18] <Doodluv> hmm
[10:18] <uniq> _martin: if it's not you can run 'sudo modprobe acx_pci' in konsole, and check the output of 'dmesg' to see if it successfully loaded.
[10:18] <Doodluv> thanks uniq i had no clue
[10:18] <DaSkreech> draik: Is there a standard Kvoice lib?
[10:18] <Doodluv> modprobe
[10:19] <draik> let me check
[10:19] <greg> DaSkreech: what's LPI certification?
[10:19] <DaSkreech> http://www.lpi.org
[10:19] <draik> Lowest Possible Intelligence???
[10:19] <_martin> uniq: modprobe acx_pci produces nothing.
[10:19] <DaSkreech> also known as a way to sob yourself to sleep at night
[10:20] <soulrider> Combatjuan: id otn think it supports DHT, adn thats a major downside. And i allways have trouble connect to trackers with ktorrent
[10:20] <DaSkreech> Linux Professional institute
[10:20] <_martin> uniq, I have had the card installed.. though it is PCMIA on a latop. whether that makes a difference.
[10:20] <DaSkreech> they have an UBuntu cert :)
[10:20] <DaSkreech> Bloody hard exam though. Make sure your testosterone count is high cause it will drain it righ off
[10:20] <uniq> _martin: shouldn't make a difference, you just need to make sure pcmcia-cs is running.
[10:21] <uniq> _martin: check that it is listen in 'lspci'
[10:21] <draik> DaSkreech, not that I was able to find
[10:21] <MrBallZ> uniq: thanks a lot !!! , it was the stupid umask that wasn't letting me access the damn drive  =) , thanks
[10:21] <DaSkreech> Drat
[10:23] <draik> DaSkreech, knock yourself out... http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=kvoice&btnG=Search
[10:23] <_martin> uniq, dmesg does have a long log about acx and suggests some links...
[10:23] <_martin> uniq: I'm guessing it knows it's there.
[10:24] <rotman> Hi, I want to play midi files, but get the message that /dev/sequencer can not be found. How do I fix that?
[10:26] <trappist> rotman: load the midi driver for your sound card, if it has one
[10:27] <trappist> or try sudo modprobe snd-seq-midi
[10:28] <draik> DaSkreech, http://www.costumecraze.com/ANML40.html
[10:28] <DaSkreech> ha ha ha :)
[10:28] <DaSkreech> Well done :)
[10:29] <DaSkreech> Then after that you can get her a Konqui koustume :)
[10:29] <draik> Did you click on the image
[10:29] <draik> Nice blue eyes on the Penguin
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Was I to?
[10:30] <overdrive> jeje
[10:30] <DaSkreech> And no Zipper lines :)
[10:31] <timthelion> does anyone know why adacity doesn't detect my audio i\o device?
[10:32] <draik> DaSkreech, I was just thinking about hooking up a clear-tube hose and have it pissing on a window
[10:32] <timthelion> it say's there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer
[10:32] <uniq> MrBallZ: glad you got it working :)
[10:33] <uniq> _martin: do you see it in 'lspci' ?
[10:33] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure I know why that would be helping your GF come to the enlightened side but I guess you know her best :)
[10:33] <draik> water that falls gets returned into a pump to a reseviour and out at the window again
[10:33] <jacques> where is synaptic storing its cache?
[10:33] <draik> LOL
[10:33] <draik> DaSkreech, it's all about visual-aids
[10:33] <_martin> uniq, yes
[10:34] <MrBallZ> bye bye
[10:34] <_martin> uniq: the card is there in lspci.
[10:34] <uniq> _martin: is it in 'ifconfig -a' ?
[10:34] <vaka> emacs rlz!
[10:34] <BluesKaj> hmmm, well trappist I did the cmds , for upgrade the dist , but i'm still in KDE 3.5.3
[10:34] <uniq> jacques: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:35] <_martin> uniq: I have something under wlan0
[10:35] <uniq> _martin: that's probably it then. did you try to configure it?
[10:36] <_martin> uniq: no.. where would I configure it?
[10:36] <BluesKaj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:37] <uniq> _martin: alt+f2 'kdesu wlassistant'
[10:38] <_martin> uniq: wlassistant not found.. what package is that under?
[10:38] <uniq> _martin: is this dapper?
[10:38] <trappist> BluesKaj: try again to do just 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade', then log out and log back in
[10:38] <uniq> _martin: if you have dapper, the package has the same name. 'wlassistant'
[10:39] <_martin> uniq: breezy
[10:39] <uniq> _martin: ah.. ok hang on, checking.
[10:39] <GBK> where's synaptic's cache file?
[10:40] <BluesKaj> I did logout and back in
[10:40] <BluesKaj> ok , try again
[10:41] <Doodluv> /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:41] <uniq> _martin: try kmenu -> internet -> kwifimanager
[10:42] <uniq> haven't used breezy for ages so i don't know how usable kwifimanager actually is though.
[10:42] <uniq> GBK: as doodluv says, /var/cache/apt/archives, but it's not one file, it's a directory with all the downloaded files. :)
[10:43] <GBK> uniq: thanx a mil. I'm backing up already!
[10:43] <_martin> uniq: yeah.. that works. I have a window now.
[10:44] <Doodluv> oh cache 'file' didnt catch that
[10:44] <uniq> _martin: great, don't ask me how to use it, i have no clue :)
[10:44] <_martin> uniq: righto. Thanks!
[10:44] <GBK> doodluv: thanx!
[10:44] <Doodluv> GBK: np
[10:46] <Gun_Smoke> Looking for documentation on installing themes in kde.
[10:47] <GBK> when selecting a file to compress, it ask to "compress as apt-move *something* what's the difference? which ones have the best compression for a usb stick?
[10:48] <uniq> bzip2 is good.
[10:48] <uniq> tar.bz2 if that's a option.
[10:51] <Gun_Smoke> What is the terminal command to bring up the extra option for kde graphics etc.. themes, icons time and such?
[10:51] <Gun_Smoke> I had it written down here someplace...........
[10:52] <trappist> Gun_Smoke: kcontrol?
[10:52] <GBK> oh hog. now that I select a couple of files is asked for bzip, tar,gzip, zip.Which one is best?
[10:52] <Gun_Smoke> sounds right.
[10:52] <uniq> GBK: bzip has best compression.
[10:52] <trappist> GBK: tar doesn't compress. bzip2 will usually get you the best compression, but it also (usually) takes longer than gzip.  zip is for girls.
[10:53] <gplfighter> lol @ trappist
[10:53] <pyromaniactom> zip is for windows :p
[10:53] <GBK> trappist: you have a dirty mind!
[10:53] <trappist> well, tar will compress if you tell it to use bzip2 or gzip compression (j or z respectively)
[10:53] <_martin> is there any documentation on the /etc/network/interface file anywhere? I need to configure it so I can swap between two networks now..?
[10:54] <trappist> _martin: man interfaces ;)
[10:54] <GBK> Oh well, will play a bit and see what gives me the best option
[10:54] <gplfighter> idd
[10:54] <gplfighter> true trappist
[10:54] <_martin> trappist: arf. thanks.
[10:56] <luke_> anyone get a memory leak with the fglrx drivers?
[10:56] <pavel_> hellow everybody
[10:56] <GBK> has anyone figured out how to play wmv files yet? I've read that Windows media player works with wine
[10:56] <narvik86> vlc can open wmv
[10:57] <pavel_> to plary wmv install xine and add codecs in /usr/lib/codecs
[10:57] <pavel_> to play wmv install xine and add codecs in /usr/lib/codecs
[10:57] <GBK> narvik86: mine only plays the sound
[10:57] <uniq> GBK: you don't want windows media player on linux, codeine, kaffeine, xine, and mplayer are all much better than wmp.
[10:57] <narvik86> and mplayer?
[10:58] <luke_> anyone know how to fix a memory leak in fglrx?
[10:58] <pavel_> mplayer doesn't play wmv (from .deb)
[10:58] <Gun_Smoke> trappist:  Thanks that was it.  And why can't I drag a theme in?
[10:58] <trappist> Gun_Smoke: probably hasn't been coded in.  make a feature request.
[10:59] <Gun_Smoke> trappist:  uhhh. I don't know what that is.
[10:59] <uniq> pavel_: with w32codecs it does.
[10:59] <GBK> uniq: kaffeine don't play it either. never tried codeine, and synaptic have gxine only. is it the same?
[11:00] <uniq> codeine is basically a much better interface to xine.
[11:00] <Gun_Smoke> VLC has worked for just about everything I've needed to play
[11:00] <pavel_> if you compile after you create folder in /.../codecs
[11:00] <uniq> !codecs
[11:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:01] <trappist> Gun_Smoke: a feature request is when you request a new feature for an application
[11:01] <Gun_Smoke> Oh, through whom?
[11:01] <pavel_> does enybody knows how install ati drivers in kubuntu?
[11:01] <trappist> Gun_Smoke: bugs.kde.org I think
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> I know a number of different ways
[11:02] <luke_> does anyone know how to fix the memory leak with the fglrx drivers?
[11:02] <narvik86> pavel_: wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:02] <Gun_Smoke> trappist:  I'll check that out.. I looked all over kde-look.org for information on how to install themes, I can't figure it out.
[11:02] <pavel_> I did this: didn't help
[11:03] <uniq> gnite all.
[11:03] <narvik86> mothod I is good, for me
[11:03] <narvik86> gn8
[11:03] <fabian_> hey guys... i updated from kde 3.5.3 to kde 3.5.4 and now I cannot "Unlock" my kicker-bar, is there any fix?
[11:03] <h3sp4wn> luke_: Are you using the latest ones ?
[11:04] <narvik86> h3sp4wn: he is using those from this tut wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[11:04] <pavel_> I use the last one
[11:04] <h3sp4wn> luke_: get the latest ones from ati.com sh ATI-blah.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper
[11:05] <pavel_> 8.27.10
[11:05] <trappist> Gun_Smoke: the tarball you downloaded should have a README file that includes installation instructions
[11:05] <luke_> h3sp4wn how can i check what version i have?
[11:05] <h3sp4wn> luke_: fglrxinfo (I think that is the name of it()
[11:06] <pavel_> I know that. I have a lot of instructions and I still can't do this
[11:06] <narvik86> h3sp4wn: what are your stets to install latest ati drivers?
[11:07] <narvik86> steps*
[11:07] <pavel_> I tried to make them for my sistem - its avalible to do and use ubuntu packadge
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> narvik86: run the file you download --buildpkg ubuntu/dapper
[11:08] <h3sp4wn> install the deb's it creates
[11:09] <narvik86> thats all?
[11:09] <pavel_> when I reboot system - OS works, but I have black screen
[11:09] <Gun_Smoke> trappist:  its a tar.bz2 ... And Ark can't extract it?
[11:09] <pavel_> I did this
[11:09] <narvik86> do i need to remove actual drivers?
[11:09] <pavel_> I genetated *.deb, install, install modules and then reboot
[11:10] <pavel_> what mesa is?
[11:10] <narvik86> pavel_: what modules?
[11:11] <pavel_> there are kernel modules in one deb packadge
[11:11] <narvik86> how to install them?
[11:11] <GBK> back to compression. does not matter what compression I choose, it takes for ever. even a 2meg file still have not completed after about 3min. is that normal
[11:12] <pavel_> use module assistant
[11:12] <narvik86> h3sp4wn: maybe you have link to some howto? do i need to remove previous drivers?
[11:13] <narvik86> pavel_: step by step please :)
[11:13] <chuck1> laptop thief http://www.boind.com/fs.php?url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061842890783782238
[11:13] <pavel_>  Method 2 in your help
[11:14] <Gun_Smoke> Trying to extract tar.bz2 I get this. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19965
[11:16] <luke_> do you have to uninstall the old fglrx driver before installing the new one?
[11:17] <pavel_> I don't know. May be there is a driver wich I install in setup
[11:18] <pavel_> in installing kubuntu
[11:18] <h3sp4wn>  narvik86: I never used a howto just ATI-driver-installer-whatever.run --help (which informed me you could build packages for dapper)
[11:19] <pavel_> strange. I use kubuntu dapper...
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> I think I may have built the kernel module manually (so as to use the highmem.h from the ubuntu patches
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> fortunately I now have a nvidia card (we are talking the drivers before the ones you are trying to install)
[11:21] <pavel_> may by I have to change something in xorg.conf?
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> pavel_: Have you blacklisted fglrx (from the old version)
[11:21] <narvik86> i have working ati drivers, but i want to be prepare for future :)
[11:22] <pavel_> in  /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ? yes.
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> do you get any build problems ?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> the module not compiling properly or anything ?
[11:26] <Ademan> hey in qparted "set active" does that change the primary partition? or what?
[11:26] <pavel_> I can't rebuild my kernel - I don't know how. Use make xconfig and
[11:27] <pavel_> I don't know what to do next
[11:27] <farous> pavel_: why do you want to rebuild your kernel
[11:29] <pavel_> In one how-to they told me to rebuild the kernel. In log file of installetion fglrx there were information about install. And modules did't install properly
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> Do you need anything else that is in restricted modules ?
[11:30] <farous> pavel_: you need to rebuild your kernel to run the fglrx i am just trying to make sure i understand you properly
[11:30] <h3sp4wn> farous: Why is that ?
[11:30] <farous> h3sp4wn: why is what?
[11:30] <farous> sorry i can not understand
[11:31] <pavel_> I put there only DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> pavel_: in /lib/modules/kernelversion/ do you have volatile
[11:32] <farous> h3sp4wn: i have the fglrx driver running properly on one box. and am running the other box with 3-d accel using the opensource drivers
[11:32] <farous> so am just trying to understand what pavel_ want so i can help him
[11:32] <pavel_> what does volatile mean? My english isn't good
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> farous: The latest version of fglrx ? .27 I think it
[11:33] <DaSkreech> pavel_: It means not stable
[11:33] <h3sp4wn> pavel_: its a directory I think the kernel modules will be in by default
[11:33] <DaSkreech> pavel_: Likely to dissappear or change
[11:33] <farous> pavel_: is installing the driver from the repos did not work for you
[11:33] <farous> anyway i think you are in good hand here got to go anyway hope you can solve your prob
[11:34] <pavel_> I can try but it can take some time. I think I tried and didn't work
[11:35] <pavel_> I have some helps but they in russian...
[11:36] <pavel_> my system is notebook with ati mobiliti 9200 (M9)
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> pavel_: You don't need fglrx with a 9200 (radeon should give you acceleration)
[11:37] <pavel_> You think that I don't have an acceleration?
[11:38] <pavel_> How about direct rendering?
[11:38] <Bbetto> osea que si hablara ingles me ayudarian?
[11:38] <pavel_> My quake 1 works bad with default driver
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> You should have direct rendering and acceleration - but fglrx will have put in diverts stopping 3d working at all
[11:39] <draik> Bbetto, hay canales en espanol
[11:39] <draik> !spanish
[11:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:39] <gplfighter> !es
[11:40] <gplfighter> !es
[11:40] <pavel_> In my kernel I have DRI
[11:41] <pavel_> I played in NFS MW in this device (in win) and can't pay quake 1!...?...
[11:51] <_martin> is there a way I can view all the machines, routers, hubs etc similar to a ping command?
[11:52] <_martin> so it basically tells me whats on the network...
[11:52] <pavel_> In this how-to (http://www.opennet.ru/base/X/dri.txt.html) show how to setup DRI with fglrx
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> fglrx is not recommended for cards less than 9500
[11:55] <pavel_> What fglrx do?
[11:57] <pavel_> In information about this version said, that it support ati mob. 9200
[11:57] <notech> actually not less than an 8500
[11:57] <notech> and fglrx is the ati 3d driver
[11:57] <pavel_> It's true and I need 3d...
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> notech: radeon provides 3d for upto 9250 better than fglrx
[12:00] <Raven301> !ndiswrapper
[12:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:00] <pavel_> What chip in 9250?
[12:01] <pavel_> Thank you, ubotu
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hey guys, been tryinto upgrade to KDE 3.5.4 but i run into this problem as it tries the install the upgrades : http://pastebin.ca/121328
[12:02] <BluesKaj> to install
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: What app does it relate to ? pastebin.ca is very slow from here
[12:04] <lwizardl> can someone explain to me how I have links direct to the categories in my virtuemart cart section
[12:04] <BluesKaj> it says my locale setting failed ...
[12:05] <lwizardl> oops wrong window
[12:05] <lwizardl> every few minutes i lose networking on my server box, any ideas what coul cause it
[12:06] <BluesKaj>  h3sp4wn, LANGUAGE = "en_CA:en, LC_ALL = (unset),LANG = "en_CA.UTF-8"
[12:07] <BluesKaj> h3sp4wn, warning: Please check that your locale settings, are supported and installed on your system.
[12:08] <sigg3> anyone want to help a noob?
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: What happens if you run sudo localegen ?
[12:08] <kayleigh28> go on sigg3
[12:08] <sigg3> I got the Ubuntu disk from a friend, and installed it, but I wanted KDE.
[12:08] <sigg3> So I installed the Kubuntu-desktop package.
[12:08] <gplfighter> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:08] <BluesKaj> how do I support and set my locale settings so
[12:08] <sigg3> But it seems I
[12:08] <BluesKaj> localegen: command not found h3sp4wn