[15:56] <TJ-> Nouv: and openvpn is logging the parameters its configuring the tunnel with?
[15:56] <Nouv> TJ-, Not sure
[15:57] <TJ-> Nouv: that'll be in syslog along with NM messages
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Nouv, a hint after installing openvpn and NMopenvpn , do , sudo syaemctl restart network-manager in the terminal, you should be able to connect after that
[15:57] <Nouv> BluesKaj, I should clarify I'm on elementary so it doesn't have systemctl
[15:57] <nacc> tdelam: did you run an `apt-get update` first, just to be current?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Nouv, this is ubuntu support not elementary
[15:58] <TJ-> Nouv: right... so not an Ubuntu issue then!
[15:58] <Nouv> Yep, thought I was in #linux, sorry
[15:59] <odroid> Hi
[15:59] <odroid> i am new to linux & ubuntu
[16:00] <odroid> the internet browser on this machine is chromium
[16:00] <odroid> its crashing as soon as i open it
[16:00] <EriC^^> odroid: try to open it from a terminal
[16:00] <odroid> is this a known issue? i dont have any other browser on the machine
[16:00] <odroid> whats the command?
[16:01] <EriC^^> chromium ? i think
[16:01] <odroid> yes
[16:01] <EriC^^> no i mean that's the command
[16:01] <odroid> ok
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> or chromium-browser
[16:02] <odroid> [end of stack trace]
[16:02] <odroid> libGL error: unable to load driver: exynos_dri.so
[16:02] <odroid> libGL error: driver pointer missing
[16:02] <odroid> libGL error: failed to load driver: exynos
[16:02] <odroid> [3324:3324:0402/000203:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(334)] InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> odroid  next time, use a !pastebin
[16:03] <odroid> sorry
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> find exynos
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> !find exynos
[16:04] <jeff1> is bash the default shell in ubuntu
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> jeff1  yes
[16:06] <boriseto> anyone can tell me how to reset everything about gksu? for some reason when I try to use it it won't even show me the prompt for password
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> boriseto  in the startup apps, make sure the policy kit is selected
[16:09] <boriseto> MonkeyDust, sorry lost connection for a whle. Well it isn't in the startup apps (it might be hidden). Let me check that.
[16:11] <boriseto> MonkeyDust, it already was checked.
[16:12] <TJ-> odroid: MonkeyDust there doesn't appear to be an xserver-xorg-video-* package to match your device's GPU
[16:15] <welovfree> hi guys
[16:16] <welovfree> Microsoft announced that it has bought Canonical, is this really correct?!
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> welovfree  it's april 1st
[16:17] <welovfree> loool
[16:17] <dota> - -
[16:17] <TJ-> !info xserver-xorg-video-armsoc-exynos
[16:18] <TJ-> ubottu: it does, for armel and armhf!
[16:18] <TJ-> ubottu: we know!
[16:19] <welovfree> MonkeyDust, so it is a lie
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> welovfree  it's a joke, now back to ubuntu support
[16:20] <BluesKaj> !mali
[16:20] <BluesKaj> !info mali
[16:20] <dota> !info xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[16:21] <dota> !help
[16:21] <dota> !patience
[16:21] <BluesKaj> odroid, is this a chromebook?
[16:21] <TJ-> !info xf86-video-armsoc | odroid this is the source package that the armel/armhf binary drivers for armsoc and armsoc-exynos are built from
[16:23] <choki> hello i have problem with virtualbox, my shared folder isnt auto mounted in guest :"(
[16:23] <choki> why does it suck so hard?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> choki  mind ypur language
[16:23] <dougn> so I've been taking the xenial daily builds for a spin, and I was surprised that a lot of lxc/lxd infrastructure is set up as part of the default build, including a virtual network interface with an arbitrarily assigned IP range attached....
[16:23] <choki> sorry but idk why it isnt workign anymore
[16:24] <choki> MonkeyDust: pls ban me
[16:24] <choki> i ll rant just
[16:24] <choki> kick and ban or ban and kick with bankick
[16:24] <dougn> I'm hoping this isn't going to make it into the final release?
[16:24] <choki> is it possible to ban first and then kick?
[16:24] <choki> asdf
[16:24] <choki>  KIKOOOOOOOOO MonkeyDust pls kill this shit virtualbox sucks LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!! :o)))))))
[16:25] <lotus|xenial> dougn: #ubuntu+1 for xenial please
[16:26] <nacc> dougn: it won't be, afaik
[16:26]  * dougn nods
[16:26] <nacc> dougn: at least the latter bit
[16:26] <dougn> thanks lotus, will hop on #ubuntu+1
[16:27] <dougn> yeah, I can see a rationale for including the lxc/lxd packages in the base install, but really not the network services (dnsmasq etc)
[16:27] <davido> #ubuntu+1 almost merits being in the topic line of this channel.
[16:28] <DirtyCajun> how coy
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> davido: check topic
[16:29] <davido> ah, so it is.  missed seeing it. :)
[16:32] <r00ter> hi
[16:32] <r00ter> where can i get cron templates ?
[16:33] <r00ter> hey
[16:33] <r00ter> need help
[16:34] <googlebros> @which type yo help need
[16:34] <r00ter> where can i get cron templates ?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> !patience | r00ter
[16:34] <r00ter> @googlebros
[16:34] <fewald> http://crontab-generator.org/
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu has a gui for cron, too
[16:37] <r00ter> yea.. the gnome scheduler... actually i'm kind of new to cron....want to get prebuilt templates with functions
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !info gnome-schedule
[16:38] <fewald> cron just run any executable scripts. you can run bash or anything binary
[16:39] <fewald> you need specify only how-often, from-which-user and executable path with options if needed
[16:40] <fewald> how-often part contains a bit tricky syntax so you can use generator in link above
[16:40] <r00ter> fewald : thanks
[16:40] <fewald> look at /etc/crontab and you will see
[16:41] <llutz> keep in mind,user-crontab have no user-filed
[16:44] <r00ter> exit
[16:46] <WatchHBONodric> Hi, i am trying to watch hbo nordic, using ubuntu, in firefox, it lags all the time, but i get sound and image. in chrome(/ium) the movie or series will "load" and then stick to a black screen. Opera same, tried to install chrome in wine, didnt work. any ideas how to get hbo to play in some other browser than firefox?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> WatchHBONodric  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: chromium-browser + pepperflash
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: or firefox + freshplayer
[16:47] <WatchHBONodric> lotus: i tried, well not pepper-flash. but "real" flash.
[16:47] <bosi> hello everyone. I have a Dell Latitude E6530 and for some reason my wi-fi disconnects every once in a while. It works fine for a couple of hours, then it disconnects and it doesn't recognize the network. I can turn the network on and off and it won't recognize the network, only if I restart the PC that will connect again. Any ideas?
[16:47] <WatchHBONodric> lotus: firefox lags alot.
[16:48] <bosi> I use Ubuntu 14.04.
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: adobe flash is pretty dead on linux
[16:48] <WatchHBONodric> lotus: yeah i know, but i found a ubuntu page that suggested trying it, so i did. :d
[16:50] <WatchHBONodric> lotuspsychje: just installed chrmium and pepper-flash, black screen still
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: maybe the site uses old stuff perhaps?
[16:52] <WatchHBONodric> lotuspsychje: hbo? uses flash for what i can see. now it says i need flash to watch
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: if other flash items load in your browsers,..must be the website
[16:55] <WatchHBONodric> lotuspsychje: :lemme check youtube.
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> kk
[16:55] <WatchHBONodric> hmm.. youtube loads and plays instantly :/
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: pm me that video link?
[16:56] <WatchHBONodric> lotuspsychje: : i only see https://se.hbonordic.com/player, must be ajax or iframe or something, doesnt expose the url
[16:56] <gartral> WatchHBONodric: probably because youtube uses html5 video, not flash
[16:56] <WatchHBONodric> oh yeah, gartral , good catch. lemme try find other video sources.
[16:57] <gartral> WatchHBONodric: try twitch.tv
[16:57] <WatchHBONodric> gartral: lotuspsychje: on twitch i get: black screen with text: "No supported video backend available; Flash is not installed".
[16:58] <WatchHBONodric> and i do not see pepper-flash in chromium plugins.
[16:58] <gartral> WatchHBONodric: weird... does normal chrome work ok? or are you desperately avoiding that binary blob?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> https://www.twitch.tv/ works here, in FF
[16:58] <WatchHBONodric> gartral: Regular chrome also give black screen.
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONodric: did you install pepperflash seperatly?
[16:59] <WatchHBONodric> MonkeyDust: i am trying to use other browser than FF, since for me, FF lags like hell watching movies.
[16:59] <WatchHBONodric> lotuspsychje: yes, using this. erhm, guide. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[16:59] <gartral> WatchHBONodric: that's ancient...
[17:00] <WatchHBONodric> gartral: probably. but that wahts googuul tossed at me. :D
[17:00] <FCN> Hi
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> i watch series on tv, guess i'm old
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> gartral: pepperflashplugin-nonfree isnt ancient
[17:01] <WatchHBONodric> MonkeyDust: i dont even own a tv since like 2005. :D
[17:02] <WatchHBONodric> MonkeyDust: in Sweden, here is a $200 "tax" to own a tv-recievable apparatus. i dont like that (on top of tv fees you might have)
[17:03] <WatchHBONodric> i wounder if firefox, with a single tab open, will run better on hbo, than without my regular browsing added to it..
[17:03] <WatchHBONodric> i should try a new ff profile with regular ff closed and see if its better.
[17:03] <gartral> WatchHBONodric: prbably
[17:03] <arslan> .
[17:04] <WatchHBONodric> im gonna go test, with a brand new profile and see if its better, if then. i have a main browser change. back later to tell the story. :D
[17:04] <gartral> watch... nvm..
[17:06] <FCN> I am trying to learn how to access to an usb stick only using terminal commands but after google it lot of times and trying commands like:-) Fdisk -l
[17:06] <FCN> Dmesg | tail
[17:06] <FCN> lsusb  i can not find the stick address in the disk to use the cd command, can anyone help me please?
[17:06] <WatchHBONodric> well lo and behold. a new profile, smooth sailing
[17:06] <WatchHBONodric> on hbo.
[17:06] <WatchHBONodric> now to decide which will be my new main browser.
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> FCN  type   tail -f /var/log/syslog ... then plugin the usb ... do you see something change?
[17:07] <blubee> hi guys
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> blubee: welcome, how can we help you?
[17:07] <blubee> I added some repos from kxstudio and I am getting these warnings when running apt-get update: uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:07] <WatchHBONodric> lotuspsychje: it seems a new profile and no other windows or tabs open, mages hbo nordic play just fine. :>~
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | blubee
[17:08] <blubee> It's kxstudio repo but the guys over there said I should ask here
[17:08] <blubee> I understand that, I trust the developers it's kxstudio with linux audio software
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> blubee: contact the maintainer of kxstudio
[17:09] <WatchHBONodric> anyone know that chrome extentions like ghostery and uBlock origin will work nicely in chrmium?
[17:09] <blubee> lotuspsychje: okay, i'll try to find them
[17:09] <FCN> The usb is mounted and when i am not using the terminal i can transfer files perfectly, i just want to do it only with terminal commands
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> FCN  lsusb, what does it say
[17:11] <Guest18462> mount it using 'mount' then cp/mv etc files?
[17:12] <FCN> Bus 002 device... maybe im doing something wrong, because when i try to access that adress it says me its not a directory
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> FCN  yes, mount the device to a folder, then access the folder
[17:12] <FCN> Okay thank you
[17:16] <gartral> i'll brb
[17:30] <wad> Next week, I'm getting a new computer. I was going to install 14.04LTS on it, but it looks like 16.04LTS comes out in a few weeks, and there is a beta. Question: Is the beta available, could I just put it on, and then an update would bring it to the release version after it comes out?
[17:31] <baizon> wad: yes, yes, yes
[17:31] <wad> Well then: Booyaw!
[17:35] <wad> Hmm, just looking at (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/) and it says that the 32-bit image is what I should use on an Intel CPU. That seems wrong, though... I thought than an Intel i7 was a 64-bit architecture, so shouldn't I use the AMD64 image?
[17:36] <baizon> wad: yes you should
[17:38] <wad> baizon, thanks. The wording on that website is somewhat misleading. Seems like it would be clearer to say something about Intel CPUs in the AMD64 line.
[17:39] <baizon> wad: its not about the cpu, its about the technology. More here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[17:41] <wutf> i used mkfs.ext4 on /dev/sdb1 which is my thumbdrive, but it is still FAT32 /dev/sdb1          32 125031679 125031648 59.6G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[17:41] <henjl> ahh it's a wonderful day :)
[17:41] <llutz> wutf: change the partition type to "linux 83"
[17:42] <wutf> llutz, which command line tool
[17:42] <llutz> wutf: fdisk, parted, cfdisk,
[17:42] <mattttttttb> wutf: Did you delete the original partition with fdisk first
[17:43] <wutf> i didn't
[17:43] <feneco> hi, after I installed nvidia drivers, I can't log in to desktop and ctrl+alt+f1 turns off the display
[17:44] <feneco> how can I get to the shell to uninstall nvidia drivers again?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> feneco: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset? driver loaded?
[17:44] <baizon> feneco: change grub to boot into text mode then uninstall it
[17:45] <feneco> lotuspsychje: 14.04, it's a gtx 560, I don't remember the chipset, drivers are the 361 (open source)
[17:45] <mattttttttb> wutf: try doing that first, use d to delete the partition, then n to create a new one
[17:45] <feneco> gf110 I think
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> feneco: try what baizon suggest and go for the 352 perhaps or 352-updates
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> feneco: optimus card?
[17:46] <feneco> lotuspsychje: no, desktop
[17:46] <wutf> "Device does not contain  a recognized partition table"
[17:46] <Rhoarin> hello there, can i installa 32bit .sh driver on a 64bit machine? Ubuntu 15.10
[17:46] <_underrated> hi all, I cant set dpms disabled in a upstart script
[17:46] <feneco> baizon: how can I do that? I am on grub now
[17:47] <wutf> i guess that's because i did /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/sdb
[17:47] <mattttttttb> yep
[17:48] <wutf> First sector (2048-125031679, default 2048)
[17:48] <wutf> set that to the larger number?
[17:48] <_underrated> DPMS enables itself after sometime
[17:48] <wutf> or the smaller
[17:48] <wutf> smaller i guess
[17:48] <baizon> feneco: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/boot-into-text-console-ubuntu-linux-14-04/
[17:48] <llutz> wutf: just use the defaults
[17:49] <llutz> wutf: a simple "t" "83" "w" would have done :)
[17:49] <wutf> ok, i used fdisk. then i ran mkfs.ext4 again and it says "Found a dos partition table in /dev/sdb Proceed Anyway?"
[17:49] <wutf> is that normal
[17:50] <llutz> wutf: you have to disconnect/reconnect the usb-drive, fdisk should have told you
[17:50] <feneco> now recovery is not working anymore
[17:51] <mattttttttb> wutf: yep
[17:51] <feneco> baizon: I can't get to ubuntu recovery, how can I edit this file?
[17:52] <wutf> llutz, i used your method this time but it's still saying it's a dos partition table
[17:52] <llutz> wutf: sure, its not gpt
[17:52] <wutf> what's that mean
[17:52] <llutz> wutf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[17:54] <Linnak> Hi, It seems that gmnotify can't reach my gmail account
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: you need to disable something in gmail settings
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: something with 3rd party apps or so
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: it blocks the attempt from gmnotify
[17:57] <WatchHBONordicAg> lotuspsychje: Gartral: Thanks you both. I have now switched my main browser to Chromium, added neccesary extentions like uBlock origin. chromium sucked most of my settings in from FF. i created a new profile, and using FF as a solo HBO watching browser. it all seems to work great so far. :>
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> !yay | WatchHBONordicAg
[17:58] <Linnak> I can't find third party app settings in gmail
[17:58] <WatchHBONordicAg> lotuspsychje: if i ever could.. i would give you a great fresh serving of popcorn i seem to be a master of making.. :> "You have to taste it to know its great" kind of popcorn :>
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: or google account settings or so?
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> !cookie > WatchHBONordicAg
[17:59] <Linnak> The only thing I can enable is po3 or imap, Both are enabled
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: no its something in google settings
[17:59] <Linnak> pop3
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: its a setting, other apps that try to contact your gmail
[18:01] <feneco> now it worked
[18:01] <feneco> but my mouse didnt
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> feneco: wich driver are you on now?
[18:01] <WatchHBONordicAg> lotuspsychje: Please have an awesome weekend followed by an even greater week. Thanks for the superb help :>
[18:01] <feneco> lotuspsychje: 361
[18:02] <feneco> could get to tty1 now
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> WatchHBONordicAg: for you aswell
[18:02] <feneco> now it froze D:
[18:03] <wutf> now when i mount this drive, i have to remount as rw, and i still can't execute files on it
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> !cookie | lotuspsychje
[18:03] <tty1> feneco: i look forward to seeing you soon!
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:03] <wutf> ah, exec
[18:04] <feneco> when it works the driver perform far better than nouveau
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: google account/security/connectedapps
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: enable apps with lower security
[18:05] <wutf> all seems to be working, thanks
[18:05] <Linnak> Yeah, I just deleted 10 apps which I didn't know about
[18:05] <wutf> kind of a pita:)
[18:05] <Linnak> It is enabled
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: then gmnotify should work now
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> Linnak: your gmail should also give you warnings when apps trying to connect
[18:07] <feneco> what's the hotkey to logout or change user?
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | feneco
[18:07] <Linnak> lotuspsychje, Yes it checked and green now :) but it needs another keyring password which is not my gmail passwork neither my own linux administrator password
[18:08] <wad> baizon: Yeah, the confusing part is that the name of the architecture (AMD64) includes the name of the competitor to Intel. So even if you have an intel CPU, not AMD, it's probably 64-bit, so you need to choose that AMD64 image.
[18:10] <feneco> :|
[18:10] <feneco> about to give up this ubuntu thing
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> feneco: dont panic on ubuntu, you will learn alot :p
[18:12] <Linnak> feneco, http://askubuntu.com/questions/493016/is-it-possible-to-assign-a-shortcut-to-switch-account-in-the-login-screen-of-u
[18:12] <feneco> now I could log in to terminal
[18:12] <wad> feneco, there are two places where keys are assigned.
[18:13] <feneco> by pressing ctrl+alt+f1 many times before the login screen appears
[18:13] <feneco> purging nvidia drivers again
[18:13] <wad> Ah, you're in video driver hell. I hate that place. >_<
[18:13] <wad> Is it a new-ish video card?
[18:14] <feneco> no, old video card, a gtx 560
[18:14] <feneco> can't get it to work :(
[18:15] <feneco> at least the computer works with nouveau
[18:15] <wad> Oh, huh. I had trouble a while back with a system with a fancy-shmancy new video card. But all the problems just went away later on when I reinstalled.
[18:15] <feneco> but slow animations everywhere
[18:15] <wad> So I figured that there were some improvements to the drivers in that interval.
[18:15] <wad> Is this a new install on a desktop, or laptop, or what?
[18:16] <feneco> new install on desktop
[18:16]  * wad <----- too lazy to scroll up
[18:16] <wad> Is it a dual-boot?
[18:16] <feneco> yes, it's dual boot with windows 10
[18:16] <feneco> I thought that could maybe be a problem
[18:16] <feneco> maybe?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> no
[18:16] <wad> Naw, unlikely.
[18:17] <wad> My primary home system is a desktop with dual boot.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> feneco: how many ram on that system?
[18:17] <feneco> 10Gb
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> unity should run fine on that
[18:17] <wad> Did you install via USB thumb drive?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> feneco: did you try all drivers from your list?
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> feneco: including all the -updates ones?
[18:18] <feneco> lotuspsychje: it's significant the difference between nouveau and nvidia drivers, when I logged in with guest user, I could use unity for some seconds before it freezes
[18:18] <feneco> wad: yes
[18:19] <feneco> lotuspsychje: I installed most of them
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> feneco: file a new bug against it then
[18:20] <feneco> lotuspsychje: how can I file a new bug?
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> !bug | feneco
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> feneco: didnt you try 16.04 on that same system this week?
[18:20] <MrPunkin> I’m looking for a simple ubuntu command line IPSEC EPS tunnel client that I can use to test our VPN from a remote server we have. Does something like this exist, or will I need to manually configure ipsec-tools / racoon to do this?
[18:21] <feneco> lotuspsychje: no, I still didn't try 16.04
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> feneco: ok, thats another test you could do perhaps
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> feneco: and file the bug against 14.04 already
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> feneco: mentioning you tested all possible drivers, attach syslog,dmesg,xorg etc
[18:22] <feneco> lotuspsychje: the ones I tried http://i.imgur.com/hT2FYWB.png
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> feneco: are you using ppa for drivers also?
[18:24] <feneco> lotuspsychje: yes, after I tried all drivers that came with ubuntu 14.04, I added the ppa from repo to try the 361
[18:24] <feneco> as you can see, didn't help
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> feneco: system also up do date to latest 14.04.4?
[18:26] <anticore> hi, wondering if anyone can give me some help. I'm trying to get my sd card reader to work, and i've found this workaround for getting a driver from another reader to work on this one https://askubuntu.com/questions/492476/internal-sd-card-reader-not-mounted-detected-hp-realtek-rts5227
[18:26] <anticore> however i get an extensive list of errors when running make
[18:27] <anticore> https://paste.ubuntu.com/15579524/
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> feneco  how long have you been using ubuntu
[18:28] <feneco> ~$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> feneco  i mean, don't give up too soon
[18:28] <feneco> MonkeyDust: on this desktop, two days
[18:28] <feneco> two or three days
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> feneco: ok good, try perhaps the rest of your drivers list, after that file the bug
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> feneco: or 16.04 test + internet enabled + updates enabled during setup
[18:30] <BluesKaj> feneco, was just reading this, it recommends the  358.16 driver for your gpu, http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2015/11/install-nvidia-linux-display-driver_22.html
[18:31] <topcrew> #/list
[18:32] <feneco> I tried 6 different drivers already
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> feneco: best driver for your system, is the one working best
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> feneco: bit searching sometimes
[18:33] <BluesKaj> feneco, easy enough to install, sudo apt install nvidia-358
[18:33] <feneco> I will try now
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: nice find, worth a try also
[18:34] <feneco> I'm afraid of breaking the system and not be able to restore it
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | feneco when things go bad/black
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> feneco  backup first
[18:34] <feneco> lotuspsychje: last time even recovery didn't work
[18:35] <feneco> MonkeyDust: I'm doing it right now
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> anticore: 15.10?
[18:35] <anticore> lotuspsychje: yes
[18:35] <feneco> won't worth using ubuntu without using the power of th egpuu
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> anticore: tried that hardware on other ubuntu versions? like lts version?
[18:36] <anticore> lotuspsychje: 15.04 it didn't work either
[18:36] <anticore> it works on windows though (dual boot)
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> anticore: checked realteks site for latest drivers?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> anticore: could try 14.04/16.04 also perhaps, maybe kernels like it better?
[18:37] <anticore> lotuspsychje: they don't have linux drivers for this particular device, they have it for a similar one and those are the ones i was trying to build
[18:37] <anticore> but make is not collaborating
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> anticore: dont think similar will work, needs to be specific chipset
[18:38] <anticore> hm, askubuntu discussions indicate that it works
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> anticore: can you fire up a liveusb perhaps and test there?
[18:38] <anticore> hm sure, need to set it up
[18:38] <anticore> what version do you recommend?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> anticore: 14.04 or 16.04 with newer kernel
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> anticore: and check syslog on the liveusb to see if it gets recongized
[18:39] <kurt_> Hi, I have a problem with UFW firewall in Ubuntu was wondering if anyone can help me
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> kurt_: you can ask your specific isue to the channel mate, other might be able to help
[18:41] <teward> !crosspost | kurt_
[18:41] <kurt_> When I open UFW, it is turned off by default. I turn it on, issue is I can't add any rules it throws some error at me like this in the log: Error running: /usr/sbin/ufw allow in proto udp from any to any port 6881:6891 > WARN: uid is 0 but 'lib' is owned by 1000 | WARN: /lib is group writable! and when I go back to my UFW later it is turned off again :/ any idea why this is? ;/
[18:43] <nacc> kurt_: why is your /lib group writable?
[18:48] <teward> nacc: what's the default perms on /lib/ typically?
[18:48] <teward> root:root?
[18:48] <pingwindyktator> hello. how to ensure that my app is running all the time (after crash - it will re-run, after osstart, it will start)? I tried systemd service, but ive got sigfault all the time and anyone can help me
[18:51] <reductio> Hello! Does anyone here have experience with recordmydesktop? I can't get it to record my audio output :( I've tried changing every setting on alsamixer and kmix, with no success...
[18:51] <BluesKaj> pingwindyktator, use sudo systemctl start appname , if your OS uses syatemd
[18:51] <nacc> teward: yeah, it shouldn't matter, you're right; but it's not the default (at least looking at my system and a fresh lxc)
[18:51] <teward> nacc: well, they're using the rpi MATE image
[18:51] <pingwindyktator> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/XUQty3WT
[18:51] <nacc> teward: ah
[18:51] <teward> nacc: its on my list to download the image, write it to an sd card, and examine
[18:51] <teward> (at least right now)
[18:51] <teward> nacc: they first were in #ubuntu-mate ;)
[18:51] <teward> hence the crosspost bot notice
[18:52] <nacc> teward: ah :)
[18:54] <teward> nacc: mind if I bug you in PM?
[18:54] <nacc> teward: go for it
[18:54] <anticore> lotuspsychje: doesnt work on 14.04
[18:54] <BluesKaj> pingwindyktator, I have no knowledge about Virtual Distributed Ethernet  :/
[18:55] <anticore> to anyone reading, can you check out my question and see if you can help me in any way? https://askubuntu.com/questions/752791/realtek-rts5227-card-reader-problems
[18:56] <inifaisal> hello?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> inifaisal  it works, we see you
[18:57] <pingwindyktator> BluesKaj, it's just a desciption
[18:57] <pingwindyktator> BluesKaj, it has nothing to do with VDE
[19:00] <Hrouthulf> Hi, everyone. I have a process here named jbd2 making writes all the time on Ubuntu, making the system perform poorly. The led of disk activity never turns off. Has anyone here faced that? According to iotop, jbd2 is responsible for over 60% of the activities related to IO
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> anticore: could this help? https://balintbanyasz.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/realtek-rts5227-driver-for-ubuntu-14-04/
[19:02] <g0th> hi
[19:02] <anticore> lotuspsychje: i'll give it a go
[19:02] <g0th> when I do "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc" I get: "dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read ../libtorrent-rasterbar_1.0.6-2ubuntu1.dsc: No such file or directory
[19:02] <g0th> any ideas?
[19:04] <Hrouthulf> It is very bizarre, it's also making my PC run hot.
[19:04] <anticore> lotuspsychje: nope, get the same errors
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> anticore: not sure then sorry, perhaps a 16.04 or file a new bug
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !bug | anticore
[19:05] <anticore> okay, thanks anyway
[19:11] <Inifaisal> is ubuntu 16.04 not support for amd users
[19:11] <Inifaisal> ?
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> Inifaisal: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 please
[19:12] <Inifaisal> oke
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Hrouthulf  jbd is journalling block device... according to this, it was a bug in 12.04 Precise, kernel 3.2 ... what release are you on ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1507658
[19:15] <Hrouthulf> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ( kernel 3.13.0-32-generic)
[19:15] <hakkeri> hello
[19:15] <phaidros> my gpg keys and ssh keys are not unlocked automatically anymore when login, how can I re-enable that?
[19:15] <hakkeri> i have a problem :) i need to adjust xfce icon/grid size to desktop
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> Hrouthulf  start with an upgrade to 14.04.4
[19:16] <hakkeri> i have large icons and i want to set small spacing...so it can fit "everywhere" on screen
[19:17] <trism> g0th: how did you get the package? when you grab the package from a site you need the .dsc and the two tar files, then you unpack it with: dpkg-source -x filename.dsc
[19:17] <trism> g0th: or easier if you are on the version that has the package: apt-get source package_name;
[19:18] <Jacq> Hey guys! New to the Ubuntu community. Is anyone here familiar with ndiswrapper? Im having serious difficulty trying to install it for my network adapter.
[19:19] <armalcolite> hello.
[19:19] <jelly> g0th: if you're building on ubuntu, ask in here (or the generic ##linux), not #debian
[19:19] <armalcolite> i need to ask some question regarding login authentication in ubunut. is this the correct place?
[19:19] <g0th> eh jelly
[19:19] <g0th> trism: ah, so this could be an issue if my package was out of date?
[19:20] <jelly> how did you get the source in the first place?
[19:21] <g0th> I forgot to be honest, probably by dpkg-source
[19:21] <tulips_> ok... i installed the kernel crash dump tool and i dont know if the kernel crashed or if the xserver keeps locking up
[19:21] <armalcolite> i have some idea of dynamic authentication and want to verify if its possible.
[19:21] <g0th> oeh apt-get source
[19:21] <tulips_> i installed the intel graphics drivers
[19:21] <jelly> g0th: apt-get source would grab the .dsc as well
[19:21] <tulips_> running ubuntu 15.10
[19:21] <tulips_> now i need to figure out how to print out the kernel crash dump... so someone can look at it (assuming the kernel is crashing)
[19:21] <i3o6> ok, stupid question time: whats the non-gui mode called? is it still ubuntu or is it shell/bash or what?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> i3o6  cli
[19:22] <g0th> jelly: but it doesn't grab the file that's missing
[19:22] <jelly> g0th: did you patch, add a changelog entry and bumped the version yourself, or did debian/changelog already have 1.0.6-2ubuntu1 on top?
[19:22] <g0th> oh
[19:22] <g0th> I modified debian/changelog
[19:23] <g0th> maybe because of that?
[19:23] <jelly> yes.
[19:23] <g0th> it worked once
[19:23] <g0th> strange that it doesn't work now
[19:23] <jelly> why are you using -nc?
[19:23] <g0th> I got that from some website
[19:24] <g0th> do not clean source tree hmm
[19:24] <g0th> I made modifications
[19:24] <g0th> so don't I revert them if I do that?
[19:24] <jelly> nope
[19:25] <g0th> hmm now nothing works
[19:25] <g0th> maybe I should remove all and use apt-get source again
[19:25] <tulips_> ugh... i dont know how to use kdump... can someone help?
[19:25] <jelly> well, if you made changes to the source, those changes should be in form of a patch in debian/patches/
[19:25] <g0th> it's just for myself
[19:25] <jelly> g0th: that sounds sane.  And if your goal is just to build some binary .deb packages, add -b to dpkg-buildpackage options
[19:25] <luk22> Hello, could someone help me with a sound problem I have?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> !sound | luk22
[19:27] <g0th> jelly: ok thanks for the help
[19:27] <g0th> jelly: the changelog was the specific answer to my initial problem
[19:27] <g0th> jelly: but now I'm redoing everything again anyway
[19:28] <tulips_> ok... i ruled out the kernel... its the xserver
[19:29] <tulips_> i had a fresh install of ubuntu lts and 15.10 and both have had xserver lockups... i have an acer 5749 .., so intel graphics... and recently was recommended to use the intel downloads for drivers
[19:29] <tulips_> but im still locking up...
[19:29] <django_> laptop is @ 77C is that bad?
[19:29] <g0th> jelly: how do I adjust the changelog?
[19:29] <g0th> I did that once, I forgot the name
[19:30] <jelly> g0th: dch, or an editor :)
[19:31] <g0th> sigh, is there no simple example line
[19:31] <g0th> that seems like a really complicated tool for such a simple task
[19:32] <g0th> I assume just dch "Changetext"
[19:33] <jelly> you can merely "dch" and edit away
[19:34] <g0th> it again uses the wrong name
[19:34] <g0th> sigh ^^
[19:36] <g0th> well see if it works in the end (now it's building)
[19:36] <g0th> oh and I created a patch :)
[19:46] <django_> which driver should I use: http://i.imgur.com/YR2Ufqz.png
[19:47] <django_> laptop is currently 58C and im only running Chrome
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> i3o6  keep it in the channel
[19:48] <cli-rookie> Is Perl automatically included in Ubuntu 14.04? I'm running a VPS with that OS.
[19:50] <ferendevelop> cli-rookie: yes. ubuntu 14.04.3 include perl
[19:50] <ferendevelop> cli-rookie: refer this link : refer this link : http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04.4-desktop-amd64.manifest
[19:50] <luk22> I am trying to edit /etc/pulse/default.pa, but I can't. How do I get permission?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> luk22  sudo -e
[19:51] <teo_> Hi
[19:51] <Tk55> But be careful with sudo ;)
[19:51] <cli-rookie> Ok, thanks
[19:52] <teo_> 1] why marco (software compositor) dont start shadows under panels in mate when I choise it? Always after restart session I must restart marco
[19:53] <luk22> Thanks @Monkeydust
[19:54] <teo_> 2] I dont know but cant see menu when I set right mouse clic on desktop in mate... eliers I had menu under right mouse button for example to change wallpaper
[19:56] <ferendevelop> teo_: in dconf editor, org - mate - desktop - background - enable show desktop icons
[19:57] <django_> tu
[19:58] <django_> anyone know how do i chose which graphics card driver to use?
[19:58] <teo_> ferendevelop, thx :)
[19:59] <onlyonemac> i connect to a bluetooth device with `sudo rfcomm release hci0 00:xx:53:xx:11:xx`
[19:59] <onlyonemac> i have written a program that reads and writes data from the device file /dev/rfcomm0
[19:59] <onlyonemac> the permissions on /dev/rfcomm0 are crw-rw---- root dialout
[19:59] <onlyonemac> i am in the dialout group
[20:00] <onlyonemac> the program can read and write data to and from the device file
[20:00] <i3o6> If I've got cli problems, will "debian" sufficiently describe my OS?
[20:00] <onlyonemac> but it cannot tcsetattr correctly (to enable blocking reads) if i don't run the program as root?
[20:00] <onlyonemac> i3o6: probably
[20:00] <onlyonemac> i3o6: unless your problem is with an ubuntu-specific cli tool
[20:01] <i3o6> is there any commonly used ubuntu tools that I might be using and having problems with?
[20:01] <onlyonemac> i3o6: what is the problem?
[20:02] <k1l> i3o6: "lsb_release -d"   what is the output?
[20:02] <i3o6> basicly I want to put a picture on my screen.
[20:03] <onlyonemac> i3o6: that is not ubuntu-specific, no
[20:03] <i3o6> Ubuntu 15.10
[20:03] <onlyonemac> i3o6: hint - look into "framebuffer console"
[20:03] <FuzzySockets> Hey folks, I'm a bit stumped... I'm trying to get ssh working between my amazon box and github but I keep getting Permission denied (public key).  I've added the key to my .ssh folder, made sure the .ssh folder and key have the appropriate permissions 700/600, respectively. ssh-add the key, to which it said "Identity added"  I'm pretty stumped!
[20:03] <k1l> i3o6: so what do you want to  do now exactly?
[20:04] <django_> FuzzySockets, you follow the steps on github?
[20:04] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: have you added the key on github?
[20:04] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: "Permission denied (public key)" is generated by the server that you are trying to authenticate with and means that it is rejecting your key
[20:05] <FuzzySockets> I'm reusing a key that already exists on github
[20:05] <FuzzySockets> mind you, this is just for testing purposes... I know that isn't typically best practice
[20:05] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: have you got more than one key in ~/.ssh? if so, are you definitely using the right key?
[20:06] <django_> laptop: lenovo y470, ubuntu:14.04, graphics card: GeForce GT 550M
[20:06] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: (there was a command somewhere to configure ssh to use a specific key for a specific host, but i can't remember what it was)
[20:06] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: Just try sshing to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:06] <django_> my laptop still gets hot
[20:06] <i3o6> k1l: I want a picture on xycoordinate with width and height.
[20:06] <django_> when i dont run stuff
[20:06] <django_> and im sure it has to do with graphics card
[20:06] <django_> can someone please help
[20:07] <onlyonemac> django_: if you are running a compositing window manager, which ubuntu does by default, then your graphics card will always be in use and this may cause your laptop to get hot
[20:07] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Permission denied (public key) --- I'm just going to generate a fresh key from scratch following the guide.  Is there a way to make sure my ssh-keys are cleared out of ssh-agent, I remember there being a conflict with a loaded key in the past.
[20:07] <django_> onlyonemac, what does that mean?
[20:07] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: log out and in again, is the simplest
[20:07] <k1l> i3o6: what use case? what desktop is running?  just showing it once? like a screensaver?
[20:07] <django_> onlyonemac, actually im running xubuntu
[20:07] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: otherwise "man ssh-add" - i think there's an option to remove a key
[20:08] <django_> onlyonemac, i installed ubuntu 14.04 then went to xubuntu
[20:08] <onlyonemac> django_: then it probably isn't your graphics card
[20:08] <FuzzySockets> onlyonemac: teach a man to fish... :) thanks
[20:08] <onlyonemac> django_: how hold is your laptop? maybe the fan is wearing out?
[20:08] <Guest_98765> http://cur.lv/wo54f
[20:08] <django_> onlyonemac, its a couple of years old lol
[20:08] <django_> shit could it be the fan :/
[20:08] <onlyonemac> django_: i once had a laptop getting hot because the fan was full of dust and wasn't turning properly; i had to take the laptop apart and clean it out (not for the feint of heart...)
[20:09] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: If you try using ssh-ing again with the -i <private key> flag, does it work?
[20:09] <FuzzySockets> onlyonemac mattttttttb : would you recommend generating the key as the root or ubuntu user?
[20:09] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: as the user you are going to use it as
[20:10] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: that way, the key will be stored in the proper place automatically and there aren't going to be any confusing issues with file permissions and configuration
[20:10] <Mathisen> is it only me that get " No matching rule " when trying to download utorrent server >> http://www.utorrent.com/intl/en/downloads/linux
[20:10] <FuzzySockets> herein lies my problem I think
[20:10] <Mathisen> can anyone check pls
[20:10] <i3o6> k1l: I want to preview thumbnails.
[20:10] <FuzzySockets> I was sudoing my command to github, and the key I had used was in ubuntu/.ssh
[20:11] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: there's no need to run ssh as root
[20:11] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: try without sudo
[20:11] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: but that will fail because sudo doesn't preserve the $SSH_AGENT_PID and $SSH_AUTH_SOCK environment variables needed for ssh to find the ssh-agent to which you added the key with ssh-add
[20:12] <FuzzySockets> onlyonemac: when it's added to root?
[20:12] <onlyonemac> oh, looks like sudo *does* preserve environment variables; thought it didn't for security reasons
[20:13] <onlyonemac> in that case, not sure why it isn't working
[20:13] <onlyonemac> but still no reason to run ssh as root
[20:13] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: What did you get using ssh with a specific identity?
[20:14] <i3o6> k1l: I'm running a poor excuse of a media server. I download search results from youtube and I want to display some kind of preview of the results. i feel like that should be no problem, but I might be terribly wrong?
[20:14] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: i think you're supposed to use your github username by the way, not<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:15] <mattttttttb> nope use git
[20:15] <onlyonemac> FuzzySockets: otherwise github doesn't know what user you're trying to authenticate as
[20:15] <onlyonemac> oh yes it is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- weirdly enough
[20:16] <onlyonemac> https://help.github.com/articles/error-permission-denied-publickey/
[20:16] <onlyonemac> "You should not be using the sudo command with Git. If you have a very good reason you must use sudo, then ensure you are using it with every command (it's probably just better to use su to get a shell as root at that point). If you generate SSH keys without sudo and then try to use a command like sudo git push, you won't be using the same keys that you generated."
[20:20] <i3o6> onlyonemac: thanks, I'm on it.
[20:20] <k1l> i3o6: that sounds like a lot of work. maybe look at edisplay or such
[20:21] <FuzzySockets> did he just leave the channel?
[20:21] <FuzzySockets> yerp, looks like he did
[20:22] <akik> there's env_keep in sudoers where you can tell which variables you want to keep
[20:24] <FuzzySockets> So I don't have permission to git fetch with my user... what is the best practice for this.  Instead of doing it all with sudo, presume creating a group specific to this would be the wisest?
[20:26] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: You can't execute git at all?
[20:26] <Guest93666> hi, does anybody can help me configurati
[20:26] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: yes, it's just the .git directory with bad permissions
[20:26] <Guest93666> configurating my soundcard, this is my first try on freeworld :(
[20:27] <Guest93666> i have no sound getting out from ardour or Qtractor and i
[20:27] <OsakaFoo> FuzzySockets: why not change the .git perms?
[20:27] <Guest93666> do not understand why
[20:28] <pjotr> anyone on raspberry pi?
[20:29] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: The fact that your using sudo shouldn't cause issues with git though
[20:29] <FuzzySockets> OsakaFoo: that's what I'm saying, but I'm thinking I'll give it group permissions and add myself to the group
[20:29] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: it does because I didn't add that key to root/.ssh
[20:30] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: You don't need to it will read from /home/.../.ssh
[20:30] <snfgf> If I add a MANDATORY_MANPATH /path/man to /etc/manpath.config, and $MANPATH isn't set,  and the description of MANDATORY_MANPATH is 'Lines of this form indicate manpaths that  every automatically generated $MANPATH should contain', why isn't /path/man appearing  when I run manpath?
[20:30] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: It was still saying public key denied with sudo.
[20:30] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: But it doesn't without?
[20:31] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: Without it's saying I can't read FETCH_HEAD from .git
[20:33] <OsakaFoo> FuzzySockets: I assume you are right and need to add roots SSH key to github
[20:34] <mattttttttb> It sounds like youve got a permissions issue with .git
[20:34] <OsakaFoo> And that
[20:34] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: that's most definitely what it is.  I'm creating a new group and adding my user (with the ssh key) to that group, and giving it sticky bit on this app folder.
[20:35] <ake_> anyone else having problems with repos (bad hash, se.archive.ubuntu.com)?
[20:37] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: Sorry, get it, sounds like a solution.
[20:37] <django_> onlyonemac here?
[20:38] <shaked> Does anyone have experience with GalliumOS for the chromebook
[20:38] <shaked> ?
[20:38] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: we shall see :)  takin a coffee break
[20:42] <mirko_> ciao a tutti
[20:43] <gAtheos> Quick question. I need to install Windows for some occasional work, but I want to dual boot Ubuntu. Which OS should I install first?
[20:43] <mirko_> ho installato ubuntu e windows 10 sullo stesso hd. Poso installare anche altre distro linux?
[20:48] <fii> Hey, is the scan from Berkeley's research program alright to allow? It says you can email to opt out, but I don't particularly care if it's for research purposes. However, it also says it tries to use "known hacks" under httpd log.
[20:49] <Bashing-om> Gathis: If you are handy with installing the boot code(s), does not matter, else install Windows 1st .
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[20:51] <Quatroking> i should be made grand network overlord
[20:51] <Seveas> I prefer the 'incompetent' freenode staff :)
[20:51] <Quatroking> you will be the first to join the digital gulag, traitor!
[20:52] <snfgf> How do I change the order of elements of my manpath in manpath.config?
[20:52] <Morgak> Apache question: I'm looking for some direction. I have a local linux webserver at <IP_ADDRESS> (example IP) and I would like to have people type in "GreenHouse" or something of that nature to take them to <IP_ADDRESS>/plants.
[20:52] <Morgak> The plants page is already created.
[20:53] <EriC^^> Morgak: create a "site" in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[20:53] <EriC^^> cp the 000-default.conf greenhouse.conf and modify it
[20:55] <EriC^^> Morgak: i think that'll only allow you to do greenhouse.host though .. not really sure
[20:56] <fii> morgak: do you mean you already have the ip/plants up, and you want people to be able to type "greenhouse" into their address bar and go there?
[20:57] <Morgak> @fii yes, just on my local network though.
[20:58] <fii> Morgak: how large is your network?
[20:58] <Morgak> 30 users.
[20:59] <Morgak> @fii I would rather them not have to get to it via ip address.
[20:59] <snfgf> Hmm, changing order of manpath elements in manpath.config, anyone?
[20:59] <shaked> quit
[21:00] <fii> Morgak: I'm a newb, but I imagine you could host a local DNS, or modify your router's if it has one. However, if they're using a standard browser to access the page, you might run into the problem where typing in just a 'keyword' like greenhouse will automatically search for the term
[21:00] <fii> like if I type it into firefox it just googles "greenhouse"
[21:01] <Zephy> Cheers. I'm hearing some strange crackling sound from my Ubuntu laptop when on the login screen. I've tried googling for solutions, but I wasn't succesful. It has an snd-hda-intel sound module loaded.
[21:01] <Morgak> @fii Maybe set it to //GreenHouse?
[21:01] <annaaaaa> hi
[21:02] <Zephy> People have supposed, that it is related to the power saving mode
[21:02] <Morgak> annaaaaa: Hi
[21:02] <Zephy> If somebody has had similar issues, pls halp!
[21:02] <p0pp3t>  /SET term_force_colors ON
[21:02] <p0pp3t> Yeah, sorry about that.
[21:02] <Morgak> fii: I will try a DNS redirect.
[21:03] <Morgak> fii: Thank you for the help.
[21:03] <annaaaaa> is it possible to send files thru this?
[21:03] <Zephy> yes it is annaaaaa
[21:03] <fii> Morgak: I'm afraid I don't know enough about DNS redirect. Depending how competent your users are, chrome and firefox both let you associate a keyword with a bookmark, so that if they typed "greenhouse" into the address bar it would take them to ip/plants
[21:03] <annaaaaa> what's the command?
[21:04] <Zephy> google for irc xdcc
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> annaaaaa  this is ubuntu support, what do you want to do
[21:04] <EriC^^> annaaaaa: /dcc help
[21:04] <annaaaaa> sorry for that
[21:04] <annaaaaa> may i ask you something about ubuntu^
[21:05] <annaaaaa> i have troubles shuting down my pc
[21:05] <annaaaaa> and rebooting
[21:05] <annaaaaa> i always need to force it with power button
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> annaaaaa  what happens when you try, in which ubuntu version
[21:05] <Revian1> annaaaaa: Do you have Plank installed?
[21:05] <annaaaaa> 15.10
[21:06] <annaaaaa> i tryed to change grub
[21:06] <annaaaaa> the acpi settings... but.. nothing
[21:06] <annaaaaa> i have also debian installed.. but same problem when i boot in debian
[21:06] <annaaaaa> any idea?
[21:06] <EriC^^> annaaaaa: does sudo poweroff work?
[21:07] <annaaaaa> nope
[21:07] <annaaaaa> neither shutdown now
[21:07] <ake_> playing around with apt repos.. seems apt (the cli) is broken now with dbus errors. aptitude works fine
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> annaaaaa  sudo init 6
[21:07] <annaaaaa> i mean it is actually shutting down
[21:07] <annaaaaa> but the screen doesnt switch off
[21:08] <annaaaaa> and if i put the laptop in stand by (hybernate) then i can not wak it up
[21:08] <annaaaaa> it's stuck
[21:08] <annaaaaa> dont know what is Plank Revian
[21:08] <Revian1> ok
[21:09] <DiamondSword> hello .. I've found a clean script on internet. it says >> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/11382f317fe5b9f8a156a32d856f9da4 but I wonder what -f means and what -y means.. what should I do for a full clean-up on ubuntu ?
[21:09] <annaaaaa> any idea to help me?
[21:09] <DiamondSword> EriC^^, are you there? :)
[21:10] <annaaaaa> GRUB says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
[21:10] <fii> Morgak: you could also check out avahi as an mDNS resolver, so they could type greenhouse.local
[21:11] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: yeah
[21:11] <annaaaaa> anybody have some idea to help me here^
[21:12] <DiamondSword> EriC^^, you know what ... I removed windows on SSD completely and made a fresh Ubuntu install on it. ha ha ha ha
[21:12] <EriC^^> DiamondSword: nice
[21:12] <fii> DiamondSword: you can use man pages if you dont know what an argument to a command means. type "man apt-get" in terminal.
[21:12] <DiamondSword> fii, ok I'll
[21:13] <annaaaaa> well ok
[21:14] <annaaaaa> quit
[21:15] <Promille> I wonder how accurate those download metrics at distrowatch.com is
[21:17] <DiamondSword> fii, man pages are helpful, thanks a lot
[21:20] <bekks> Promille: The are accurate. But they literally have nothing to do with a usage statistic. They only ,easure how often some entry was clicked, which is known to be done by bots, since decades.
[21:27] <FuzzySockets> mattttttttb: yep, that was the issue
[21:29] <Promille> bekks thanks for answer. I should learn to examine better. found this on their webpage: "The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring the popularity of Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They
[21:29] <Promille> simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch.com was accessed each day, nothing more."
[21:31] <paulbanks> does anyone know whats been going on with ubuntu desktop next ? wasnt ubuntu supposed to be moving to snappy ?
[21:34] <BenderRodriguez> ehem,
[21:35] <Pettis> please can anyone tell me how to get back to the 'select language' screen from BusyBox during Ubuntu Server (Trusty) install?  I entered the shell using Alt + F2 because I was trying to get it to install from USB as per http://askubuntu.com/a/130826
[21:36] <Pettis> I have tried Alt + F2 again to no avail
[21:40] <mattttttttb> FuzzySockets: Solid, glad its solved
[21:40] <nitegreen1> Would this be the most appropriate channel to get some help with a corrupt root filesystem (lvm), i am running Ubuntu 14.04
[21:41] <nitegreen1> Here is what I been able to pull from the system after booting from  a usb stick running 15.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/15581544/
[21:46] <p0pp3t> It might be a typo but on line 133 isn't it suppose to be /dev/root_vg_/root ?
[21:49] <nitegreen1> yes that was a type, cut and past of the actual command
[21:49] <nitegreen1> typo
[21:54] <p0pp3t> Have you tried locating the other superblocks ? Or are they all corrupted?
[21:55] <sabotagebeats> is that april fool?
[21:55] <sabotagebeats> oh sorry wrong chan :)
[21:57] <xxxfkaccts> ubuntu can do a entire dist upgrade without reboot but we cannot do a partition resize if we have only 1 working, why?
[21:57] <bekks> xxxfkaccts: whats your actual issue? :)
[21:58] <xxxfkaccts> the tru question is want to be able to partition when I have just 1
[21:58] <yuuyhn> Hi
[21:58] <sabotagebeats> hi
[21:59] <bekks> xxxfkaccts: Use a live cd.
[21:59] <yuuyhn> I have my system setup so I can see all of the boot output, but the first part, what I believe to be initrd displaysgarbled
[21:59] <xxxfkaccts> i wondered create a memory disk and then somehow resize the disk
[21:59] <yuuyhn> inreaable charectors. After a few minutes the texrt gets reconfigured and is readble.
[21:59] <yuuyhn> why is this?
[21:59] <yuuyhn> then it displays the login prompt.
[22:00] <xxxfkaccts> beks: it is a vps, i cant use live disk
[22:01] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs cannot read the "/dev/mapper/root_vg-root" lv so I cannot  the superblock information
[22:02] <xxxfkaccts> in a vps i dont have the option of live dvd
[22:03] <k1l> xxxfkaccts: most hosters offer a recovery boot
[22:03] <k1l> xxxfkaccts: but why do you want to resize in first place on a vps?
[22:03] <nitegreen1> ok the so lv name is different now that I boot from the usb stick with  a different version of ubuntu
[22:03] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs -b -f -i -x /dev/root_vg/root
[22:03] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
[22:03] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/root_vg/root
[22:03] <nitegreen1> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[22:04] <xxxfkaccts> kll: the question is not recove but have a sepparte partition, backup o home for security motives
[22:04] <p0pp3t> Try running fsck on it
[22:04] <nitegreen1> I know there are suppose to be other superblocks but how do i find/read them?
[22:05] <bekks> xxxfkaccts: then how do you resize your partition, in a VPS? :)
[22:05] <bekks> xxxfkaccts: the disk size is given by the VPS hoster.
[22:05] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs -b -f -i -x /dev/root_vg/root
[22:05] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
[22:05] <nitegreen1> dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/root_vg/root
[22:05] <nitegreen1> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[22:05] <nitegreen1> oops ignore that
[22:05] <nitegreen1> e2fsck /dev/root_vg/root
[22:05] <nitegreen1> e2fsck 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014)
[22:05] <nitegreen1> e2fsck: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/root_vg/root
[22:05] <nitegreen1> Possibly non-existent device?
[22:05] <k1l> xxxfkaccts: ok, let me rephrase: good hosters offer a recovery to be able to resize.
[22:06] <k1l> xxxfkaccts: you cant resize the partitions while using them. so you need another boot that is not using that partitions.
[22:06] <xxxfkaccts> bekks: the host gives a virtual disk but perhaps i may create 2 partitions, or not?
[22:07] <k1l> xxxfkaccts: in fact: talk to the hoster.
[22:07] <bekks> xxxfkaccts: No. That will break your VPS, most likely. You need to talk to your hoster.
[22:07] <xxxfkaccts> i asked for it, but they got in trouble
[22:08] <bekks> Then you have to live with that.
[22:08] <xxxfkaccts> deny the possibility is always a first easier option
[22:10] <xxxfkaccts> tecnically if i could be able to reedirect all disk jobs to a ramdisk then i free the hd virtualized to partition
[22:12] <xxxfkaccts> can someone do a hotswap of hd to memory?
[22:13] <bekks> xxxfkaccts: No.
[22:13] <xxxfkaccts> :(
[22:18] <xxxfkaccts> ubuntu did a great job improving things ultimately. unfotunately i almost dont see mobiles with ubuntu
[22:18] <xxxfkaccts> i mean
[22:18] <xxxfkaccts> in brazil we actually have none mobiles with ubuntu,, very sad
[22:19] <lee_G750jm> i don't understand what this could mean "Could not parse desktop file livewallpaper-autostart.desktop or it references "and if someone could give me a little me insight.
[22:20] <owen> What's a good ipsec client for ubuntu 15.10. The vpn server is libreswan l2tp. The vpnc client for mac/windows connects on 'main' mode but vpnc is forcing 'aggressive' mode. Is it possible to turn off aggressive mode in vpnc? or is it possible to allow aggresive mode on my vpn server.
[22:21] <EriC^^> erwbe7yrtdy set75r
[22:22] <Revian1> Was just about to complain about that nick and his bad connection
[22:24] <lee_G750jm> nvm
[22:24] <xxxfkaccts> i dreamed with an ubuntu phone... hacking on the bus.... hacking on the job....
[22:24] <mattttttttb> owen: Go for strongswan
[22:25] <neyder_> hello everyone
[22:25] <woodsbw> Hello, I just installed the latest HWE kernel in my 14.04.4 install (linux-generic-lts-wily)...it looks like it installed correctly...but the box is still booting to 3.16.0-30-generic...and that is all I see grub entries for...should I have to manually edit grub after installing the 4.2 kernel?
[22:25] <owen> mattttttttb: why?
[22:26] <neyder_> I have an old upgraded installation of ubuntu, with home directory encrypted, how can I reinstall (clean install) and recover home directory?
[22:27] <cfhowlett> neyder_, select "something else" during installation, at partition, select your current /home as your new /home, do not format that /home
[22:27] <neyder_> cfhowlett, yeah i know
[22:27] <mattttttttb> owen: its pretty well integrated (e.g. with network-manager), it's in repos
[22:27] <cfhowlett> you will of course need the encryption passphrase
[22:28] <neyder_> but encryptino key ? ( i'll format / partition, /home is in another partition)
[22:28] <mattttttttb> woodsbw: Try running update-grub
[22:28] <lee_G750jm> i know this is a newbie question auto start files are located in the init.d
[22:28] <lee_G750jm> or rc.d
[22:28] <pony_> Hello. I have mint KDE here. How to resize icons on desktop
[22:29] <cfhowlett> !mint | pony_
[22:29] <aruns> Hi.
[22:30] <aruns> Which IRC channel for Ubuntu is best for asking questions about problems with a specific application that I am running on Ubuntu? The application in question is AMPPS.
[22:30] <uio> What is your unrelated convo channel ?
[22:30] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:30] <semitones> In ubuntu, is flash memory very different from an SSD, or are they the same? Thanks
[22:30] <cfhowlett> see the ampps help menu for support options
[22:30] <uio> Ben64: thanks
[22:31] <Ben64> semitones: what do you mean "in ubuntu"
[22:31] <mattttttttb> lee_G750jm: It depends on whether you're using SysVInit or SystemD. Which release are you using?
[22:31] <aruns> I am running AMPPS on Ubuntu.
[22:31] <neyder_> cfhowlett, ty igot my passphrase
[22:31] <aruns> My problem is that MySQL is not running.
[22:31] <aruns> I think I need to change a line in the config file.
[22:31] <semitones> Ben64, i'm just trying to stay on topic :p it's not really ubuntu related.  Thanks!
[22:32] <Ben64> semitones: ##hardware available
[22:32] <Ben64> semitones: is*
[22:33] <semitones> ben64 yeah, i know. They should have a ##hardware_for_noobs channel though; i never feel very welcome there.  A desktop is not generally one of them
[22:43] <xxxfkaccts> if is money canonical want they could sell mobiles here
[22:44] <xxxfkaccts> i cant hack in a hacked thing as android
[22:48] <xxxfkaccts> this accounts are the facts of life
[22:52] <xMrBx> Hi all
[22:52] <McrowChile> hi xMrBx
[22:52] <xMrBx> is it ok to ask newb questions here?
[22:53] <xxxfkaccts> no
[22:53] <McrowChile> i think
[22:53] <McrowChile> i dont know, my english is very bad
[22:53] <McrowChile> hahahha
[22:53] <xxxfkaccts> kkk
[22:53] <TJ-> !help | xMrBx
[22:54] <xMrBx> ok
[22:54] <JesperA> !patience
[22:54] <McrowChile> hahaha
[22:55] <xMrBx> Thanks i always spend time searching for answers first before asking.
[22:55] <McrowChile> ?? glib
[22:56] <xMrBx> I downloaded  FLEX the lex replacement because I need it to compile libpcap. just cant figure out how to start it
[22:57] <xMrBx> I ran ./configure make  make install
[22:59] <k1l> !info flex
[22:59] <k1l> xMrBx: why dont you install that from the ubuntu repos?
[23:00] <xMrBx> im on a system where I dont have sudo s so I have to install everything to my local directories
[23:00] <xMrBx> build them form source
[23:00] <xMrBx> flec ifo
[23:00] <Rich71> Hi all
[23:02] <k1l> xMrBx: see http://flex.sourceforge.net/#resources  for questions on how to use flex
[23:04] <xMrBx> ok
[23:06] <deadmund> I have a kernel paramters ($vt_handoff) that shows up in my grub menu, but isn't listd in /etc/default/grub.  Why?  How is this happeneing?
[23:15] <TJ-> deadmund: it's generated by "update-grub" from the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[23:15] <TJ-> !info user-mode-linux | xMrBx: if you don't have sudo, you might find UML useful
[23:16] <xMrBx> Ill check it thanks
[23:17] <deadmund> TJ-: I found it in /etc/grud.b/10_linux
[23:17] <deadmund> TJ-: Thanks though!!
[23:20] <richardhubbard> Hi all
[23:29] <Tin_man> well theres 1824 alls
[23:44] <unkerned> hi mundo
[23:47] <Osirus126> hello all
[23:57] <BenderRodriguez> Hi OsakaFoo
[23:57] <unkerned> I feel 15 again


[00:33] <kotux> hello godbyk
[08:35] <nikolam> searching help.ubuntu.com does not work again.
[08:36] <nikolam> (I keep google.com javascripts disabled for good and will never have them enabled)
[08:44] <godbyk> nikolam: It worked for me: https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=compose+key&sa=Search
[08:44] <godbyk> But I have Javascript enabled.
[08:45] <nikolam> Obviously, problem is that I do not want to enable google javascripts
[08:45] <nikolam> But can use ubuntu.com ones
[08:46] <nikolam> And I will neser enable them, since google javascripst are largely misused on tracking users on internet sites
[08:46] <nikolam> Also don't want google to know what I search under Ubuntu.com searches.
[08:46] <nikolam> It worked before.
[08:47] <godbyk> I just tried the search with Javascript disabled and I see the error you were talking about.
[08:47] <nikolam> ok.
[08:47] <godbyk> I'm not sure what options we have there. I'll have to explore it.
[08:47] <nikolam> It is not the problem to require ubuntu.com scripts. That is reasonable. But not google.
[08:48] <godbyk> nikolam: Would you mind filing a bug on Launchpad against ubuntu-doc about this?
[08:48] <godbyk> If we don't want to use Google's custom site search (which seems to require Javascript), then we'd need to set up our own search engine for the site.
[08:48] <nikolam> It happened before several times, as I can recall, it happens that google changes "something" from time to time, probably specifically to disable current settings for those that don;t want their JS's
[08:49] <nikolam> godbyk, I think it is also explored before, also concluded in previous years there is quite no solution for internal search? But I doubt there are no solutions, comparing other distros.
[08:49] <nikolam> Thank you for understanding godbyk
[08:50] <godbyk> I'm not sure what options we have on the server side. We'll have to chat with Canonical about that.
[08:50] <godbyk> Right now the docs team just uploads static HTML files for the documentation.
[08:52] <nikolam> I hope they will care. In previous times, that was sorted out after tweaking on server side. Hope there is positive attitude , toward that.
[08:52] <nikolam> Afte Unity and leaking searches, I don't know anymore. But thats other topic.
[08:53] <nikolam> After
[08:54] <godbyk> nikolam: I understand. If you file a bug on Launchpad about it (you can assign it to me: godbyk), I'll look into it and see what options we have.
[08:55] <nikolam> thank you godbyk :)
[08:55] <godbyk> nikolam: No problem. I'm happy to help.
[08:56] <godbyk> nikolam: I can't promise we'll find a better solution, but I'll at least look into it.


[02:05] <tenach> Hello there, MadameTock
[02:07] <MadameTock> Well hello, tenach.
[04:05] <nomnex> Is somebody using a Wiki around here? dokuwiki or moinmoin? Need advice
[04:38] <nomnex> new question can you explain the function of the charactere ` ex. in php scripts
[04:45] <PabloRubianes> nomnex: moinmoin is whar the Ubuntu wiki uses... it's easy to write on it.
[04:45] <PabloRubianes> the other question i don't know
[04:46] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, yes, moinmoin looks good on screen, do you or have you hosted you own wiki?
[04:47] <PabloRubianes> nomnex, no, I just write on the Ubuntu one, never hosted a wiki before...
[04:47] <PabloRubianes> don't know which is easier to host
[04:48] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, thanks, any idea of the ` character in PHP or other scripting languages?
[04:48] <PabloRubianes> nomnex, what you need to do with a stress?
[04:50] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, so it's called a "stress" now I can seach for explanations thanks
[04:51] <PabloRubianes> nomnex, in common languaje that's a stress... spanish use it example "Día"
[04:52] <PabloRubianes> i am not sure or having saw that kind of stress on PHP but i am just a beginner on script programming
[04:53] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, when use to illustrate an explanation, do you have any idea of the use of the stress char? see example http://pastebin.com/hjYrzQPd
[04:54] <PabloRubianes> paultag, ping
[04:55] <paultag> hey PabloRubianes
[04:56] <PabloRubianes> hey paultag nomnex is having some problems with PHP I think you could help him better than I can ;-)
[04:56] <paultag> sure PabloRubianes
[04:56] <paultag> nomnex, what's up
[04:56] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, thanks
[04:56] <PabloRubianes> no problem!
[04:56] <PabloRubianes> bye guys!
[04:57] <paultag> later PabloRubianes
[04:57] <PabloRubianes> later paultag take care!
[04:57] <nomnex> paultag, I just have a question about the stress char ` when it is used as an example (non code), can you take a look at the pastbin above, last line
[04:58] <paultag> sure
[04:59] <paultag> One second
[04:59] <nomnex> paultag, thanks
[05:01] <paultag> ok nomnex, so do you not want to escape strings when writing that? Why use the ''' ?
[05:02] <nomnex> paultag, my question is what difference between `world` and 'word' in some manuals for non snippet of code
[05:02] <paultag> nomnex, Ahha
[05:02] <paultag> nomnex, `foo` infers a command ( in some cases ) otherwise you can read it as the same as 'foo'
[05:03] <nomnex> paultag, so `sometext` will indicate a command, I got it now
[05:03] <paultag> nomnex, that's by tradition only :)
[05:04] <paultag> it comes from bash nomnex -- FOO=`echo "Hai"` will store the output of echo "Hai" to $FOO in bash
[05:04] <nomnex> in the current example `---Old project 2 in my past bin, does it has a purpose or indication
[05:04] <paultag> no, that's to make it pretty nomnex
[05:05] <paultag> nomnex, it makes it look like a tree
[05:05] <nomnex> paultag, `echo "Hai"`I got it
[05:06] <nomnex> paultag, it makes it look like a tree, explain, the sub-dir project 1 has |--
[05:06] <nomnex> shouldn't project 2 be |-- too?
[05:07] <nomnex> paultag, or ` mean another sub-level?
[05:07] <paultag> nomnex, it means a new sub-level
[05:07] <paultag> Foo
[05:07] <paultag>     |--> One
[05:08] <paultag>     |--> Two
[05:08] <paultag>     `--> Three
[05:08] <paultag> makes it look nice :)
[05:08] <nomnex> paultag, thanks, it that a convention or case by case?
[05:08] <paultag> nomnex, preface of the documenter
[05:09] <nomnex> paultag, do you have a link where I can find these usages
[05:09] <paultag> nomnex, fraid not, it's usually just case by case
[05:09] <nomnex> I see, what would it be for Four?
[05:10] <paultag> nomnex, the ` ?
[05:10] <nomnex> yes
[05:10] <paultag> nomnex, treat it as decoration or as a ', or "
[05:10] <nomnex> okay so whatever would do in the case
[05:11] <nomnex> paultag, thanks
[05:12] <paultag> nomnex, sure
[09:02] <shredder12> I am having some trouble installing steam in Ubuntu...any suggestion?
[09:03] <pedro3005> hey shredder12
[09:04] <shredder12> hi pedro3005
[09:04] <pedro3005> shredder12, how are you attempting to install it?
[09:05] <shredder12> I downloaded the .msi file.. used the command "wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi", after the whole installation wizard finishes .. I get an error saying that I need to be connected to Internet in order to run Steam
[09:06] <shredder12> pedro3005, I use a proxy server to connect to Internet, could that be a problem?
[09:06] <pedro3005> shredder12, hm, let me research
[09:07] <pedro3005> shredder12, looked at this? http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-d582e2a4e92f4d8ae6c3401daebd7d5621eb220f
[09:09] <shredder12> well, I have already set the http_proxy variable...let me try tweaking the registry
[09:09] <pedro3005> shredder12, sorry, have to go off for school
[09:09] <pedro3005> good luck
[09:09] <shredder12> thanks pedro3005 c ya..
[10:45] <Akos> hi everyone
[10:46] <Akos> is there a shell command that helps me add something to the end of each line in a text file?
[10:55] <shredder12> Akos, if you mean append to a text file.. then try "tee -a"
[10:55] <Akos> i've search, and found sed s
[10:55] <Akos> sed 's/$/;/' filename
[10:55] <Akos> with -i
[10:56] <Akos> *searched
[10:56] <Akos> brb lunch
[12:21] <meindian523> nhandler, any idea when the Lucid beta is releasing today?
[12:23] <meindian523> ubuntugeek mistakenly posted 18th March as the date for the beta release
[12:25] <meindian523> hey swoody
[12:25] <meindian523> uh, over here swoody
[12:27] <Silver_Fox_> Hello meindian523
[12:27] <meindian523> hi Silver_Fox_
[12:28] <Silver_Fox_> March 18th was the original planned date.  It was set back until March 19th
[12:28] <meindian523> Silver_Fox_, well, it's not up yet
[12:28] <Silver_Fox_> It will be up when it is ready.
[12:30] <Silver_Fox_> meindian523,  An announcement was also made on the forum:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433116
[12:31] <meindian523> Silver_Fox_, Ah
[12:32] <swoody> good morning Silver_Fox_ :)
[12:32] <Silver_Fox_> Hello swoody
[12:32] <Silver_Fox_> How are you ?
[12:33] <swoody> oh not bad, thank you :) A bit early to be up on a Saturday though :/
[12:33] <swoody> and yourself?
[12:33] <Silver_Fox_> Hacking away as usual =]
[12:34] <Silver_Fox_> Looking forward to 18:00
[12:34] <Silver_Fox_> Hello phillw
[12:44] <phillw> hi Silver_Fox_
[12:44] <Silver_Fox_> How are you?
[12:45] <phillw> I'm well, waiting for the beta's of 10.04 to land - How are you keeping ?
[12:45] <Silver_Fox_> Not too bad thank you.
[13:00]  * ZachK_ waves to everybody
[13:05] <phillw> hi ZachK_
[13:05] <ZachK_> Hello phillw
[13:06] <ZachK_> phillw: And how are you today?
[13:07] <phillw> i'm well, thanks, waiting for the beta's for 10.04 to land :-)  How are you ?
[13:07] <ZachK_> Tired........
[13:07]  * ZachK_ snores
[13:08] <phillw> ZachK_: too many late nights ?
[13:08] <ZachK_> Night shift at work
[13:09] <phillw> ZachK_: I used to prefer night shifts
[13:10] <Akos> oh hey ZachK_, ltns (:
[13:10] <ZachK_> Two monsters and a mountain dew.....still tired too phillw... And hey back Akos my huddy!
[14:10] <aluex> hi
[14:10] <aluex> what does the command "rctl" mean?
[14:11] <aluex> oh,i've got it. X)
[14:11] <The_Flower_Man> Resistor Capacitor Transistor Logic
[15:41] <grepFu> Hi I'm having some major issues with install dovecot
[15:42] <grepFu> I'm following the tutorials in "The Official Ubuntu Server Book" and have got the part about setting up a mail server, and installing dovecot... I can't install it, I was instructed to try to remove it, and no both apt-get remove and apt-get install spit out errors.
[15:44] <nigelb> grepFu: can you pastebin the errors here.  I'm no sure I know whats wrong.  but someone who knows can take a look
[15:45] <grepFu> http://pastebin.com/mzfHRJnK
[15:46] <The_Flower_Man> chmod: cannot access `/var/run/dovecot': No such file or directory
[15:47] <nigelb> The_Flower_Man: nice nickname ;)
[15:48] <grepFu> The_Flower_Man : Didn't know what / if I should create it
[15:50] <The_Flower_Man> What do you mean you cannot install it?  Something like:   sudo aptitude install dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d
[15:50] <grepFu> The paistbin is the output I get.
[15:51] <The_Flower_Man> Hmmm
[15:51] <nigelb> grepFu: why are you using the -f flag?
[15:51] <grepFu> doing apt-get but same difference.
[15:51] <grepFu> The 3 things that strike out are
[15:51] <grepFu> Not replacing deleted config file /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf
[15:51] <grepFu> chmod: cannot access `/var/run/dovecot': No such file or directory
[15:51] <grepFu> dpkg: error processing dovecot-common (--configure):
[15:51] <grepFu> Which is depressing
[15:52] <nigelb> grepFu: what release of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:52] <grepFu> saw it on another tutorial, well someone had the same problem, but that thread ended in 2008, and no body got back to them.
[15:52] <grepFu> 8.04.2 LTS
[15:53] <grepFu> If I don't use -f the output is the same.
[15:54] <grepFu> Its a dedicated server, I've done this before, and never had any problems running apt-get install on these packages.
[15:55] <grepFu> SSL wasn't working, so I was told to remove dovecot and postfix and reinstall, which I did, and now dovecot won't install.
[15:56] <nigelb> my knowledge of server packages isn't enough to guide you from here. sorry :(
[15:56] <grepFu> :'(
[15:56] <grepFu> The server book is pretty basic, not massively impressed with the email conf stuff, they seem to miss out alot.
[16:16] <phillw> grepFu: are you after setting up a mail server ?
[16:16] <grepFu> trying to
[16:17] <grepFu> Was following the official server book, and got in a bit of a muddle.
[16:17] <phillw> do you want clamav as your anti-viral agent, and anti-spam filtering ?#
[16:17] <grepFu> Not can't install devcot
[16:17] <grepFu> covecot
[16:17] <grepFu> *dovecot... also I can't type.
[16:20] <phillw> hmm, you maight want to have a look at http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/  It's nicely lain out and is ideal for a server
[16:20] <phillw> i set it up & it worked straight away... I was suprised :-D
[16:22] <phillw> I used release notes 8, as was not ready to start playing with clud stuff (I'm waiting for release notes 10 for that)
[16:22] <phillw> cluc=cloud
[16:24] <grepFu> Yeah problem I have is I can't install Dovecot
[16:24] <grepFu> http://pastebin.com/MGNwf2W6
[16:27] <phillw> grepFu: have you manually deleted any of the dovecote stuff from a previous failed installation ?
[18:01] <st4aluck> Could somebody help me to configure tripwire? I installed it but something goes wrong
[20:58] <yvan> wow the channel is quiet!
[21:19] <yvan> where is everyone?
[21:20] <hobgoblin> yvan: possibly there is no-one about that needs help - the team channel moved a while ago
[21:22] <yvan> hobgoblin, well never knew that, what is the new channel?
[21:22] <hobgoblin> ubuntu-beginners-team ;
[21:22] <hobgoblin> ;)
[21:23] <yvan> hobgoblin, thanks man
[21:23] <hobgoblin> welcome
[21:32] <seidos> I didn't know that either
[21:32] <seidos> hey, as a beginner I have a question
[21:32] <seidos> why doesn't yank work in vim for me?
[21:32] <seidos> I hit yy and it doesn't copy to the frame buffer
[21:32] <seidos> is that right?  frame buffer?
[21:33] <seidos> well buffer at any rate
[21:58] <phillw> hi seidos, if you pop over to the communuty documentation on vim at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VimHowto that has an introduction and links to the full manuals for vim
[21:58] <seidos> phillw, you really think an answer to my question is in the full manuals?
[22:07] <seidos> I didn't know it was case sensitive
[22:07] <seidos> yG seems to work, but yg doesn't
[22:23] <phillw> seidos: I don't use vim, as no-one had answered in 20mins, that's the best I could do.
[22:24] <phillw> i use nano
[22:24] <seidos> phillw, ohhhhh.  I like the yank command in vim but it wasn't working
[22:24] <seidos> I think I figured it out though, partially because of your help.  thank you
[22:26] <phillw> seidos: yw
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> I'm trying to download the mumble server software using this link http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/files/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> so I do wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/files/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> but all it gives me for a download is index.html
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> what am I doing wrong?
[22:53] <nhandler> ghostofmybrain_: See if you can use http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mumble/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma?use_mirror=iweb
[22:55] <ghostofmybrain_> that gives a 404
[22:55] <ghostofmybrain_> oops, mistake period in there
[22:57] <ghostofmybrain_> sorry I can't type.  That worked. Thanks.  So I was just using a bad link or something?


[00:15] <wr3d> hi all
[00:46] <Andalias> Why kde 4.11 without login session sound?
[01:10] <dougiel> I did some sudo stuff for bluetooth and my bluetooth icon disappeared from my settings panel...any suggestions?
[01:23] <MangaKaDenza> mentlegen... I have yet another problem
[01:25] <MangaKaDenza> so I try to do sudo apt-get install kde* but it says I have held broken packages
[01:26] <MangaKaDenza> how do I fix this
[01:44] <valorie> dz
[01:44] <valorie> oops
[01:48] <dan_l> Hi.  Has anybody experienced muon software center crashing since upgrading?
[01:49] <[dz]> yep
[01:49] <dan_l> and how did you fix it?
[01:49] <dan_l> or did you not?
[01:49] <[dz]> nope
[01:50] <[dz]> in fact, my entire kubuntu environment is ... pretty messed up
[01:50] <dan_l> any other symptoms?
[01:50] <[dz]> lets just say... sudo apt-get remove cups*
[01:51] <dan_l> oh dear.
[01:51] <dan_l> so you upgraded and you're totally hosed?
[01:52] <[dz]> well... its complicated...
[01:52] <[dz]> my thing only runs when I do a recovery
[01:52] <[dz]> like
[01:52] <[dz]> boot in recovery
[01:52] <[dz]> mode
[01:52] <FloodBotK1> [dz]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <[dz]> and in unity, as of a few hours ago, its slowed down to hell
[01:53] <[dz]> kde is... missing in action, and kubuntu is unusuable until further notice... and the only working thing is Xubuntu
[01:54] <[dz]> so yeah, I'm pretty well
[01:56] <dan_l> well I hate to say it, but did you try reinstalling?
[01:57] <[dz]> BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
[01:57] <[dz]> yes
[01:57] <[dz]> sudo apt-get remove kde*
[01:57] <[dz]> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu*
[01:57] <[dz]> then autoremoves
[01:57] <[dz]> and other stuff
[01:57] <[dz]> and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu*
[01:59] <dan_l> it might be time to burn the village dude
[02:00] <[dz]> ?
[02:00] <dan_l> ya know, rmrf
[02:00] <[dz]> o.0
[02:00] <[dz]> butbutbut...
[02:00] <[dz]> butt
[02:00] <[dz]> I already set up mai stuffzor
[02:00] <[dz]> ;-;
[02:01] <dan_l> I have an xppro and a win 7 vbox for work stuff.  It kills me too, but once every other year or so, it's time to click the button
[03:51] <wr3d> shoot, ownCloud is so easy to install on Kubuntu 3.10, awesome!
[04:41] <K_user> Hi
[04:45] <K_user> Hello! i'm running Kubuntu Live USB now and i can't see my HDD in filemanager. Tell me how to get access to the hard drives? I do not see them in the manager. Thanks
[04:49] <apb> Across the bottom of my screen is the task list panel.  Mousing over each item causes a menu to "drop up".  Those "dropups" are translucent.  How can I make them opaque?  kubuntu 12.04
[05:03] <cretsiah> can kubuntu play all media files? including flash
[06:28] <mucho> hi
[07:43] <haxe__> hallo
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:19] <georgelappies> hi all, I am experiencing a black screen delay when login in to KDE before the desktop loads. This is bugging me to now end as the login always was much faster with a smooth transition fade effect to the desktop. Very pretty indeed. However since using KDE4.11 on Kubuntu 13.10 this blackscreen at login became an issue? I have confirmed this issue on another machine with an ATI display as my main display is NVIDIA both have same issue. Is this a
[08:19] <georgelappies> known regression?
[11:03] <drbobb> hey guys, ever since the upgrade to 13.04 my personal KDE settings have been somewhat f***ed. It shows by no logout or reboot options appearing on the exit dialog, I have no access to those operations through any GUI.
[11:04] <drbobb> Guess I could fix this by wiping clean all KDE settings, but I don't want to lose saved passwords, addressbook etc. I there some less drastic fix?
[11:06] <drbobb> I was sort-of hoping 13.10 would fix this for me, but nope.
[11:10] <ct529> drbobb: do you know what would you like to save?
[11:11] <drbobb> ct529: well that's part of the problem, one would have to know pretty well what is saved by KDE and where
[11:14] <drbobb> I'd really rather wipe just those settings that are responsible for the breakage, and leave all the rest, if I knew how to do that
[11:15] <drbobb> it's highly annoying to be unable to logout or reboot, other than via powering off
[11:22] <drbobb> I am also having issues with the BCM4313 wifi in my laptop
[11:22] <drbobb> it works pretty well with my home router using WPA personal
[11:23] <drbobb> but not at all with the office wifi, on WPA2 enterprise
[11:23] <drbobb> the setting I use are correct and were eorking on 13.04
[11:25] <monkeyjuice> drbobb:  i would try making a new user and log into that user to see if the system works with that user . might just be your user account is messed up
[11:29] <drbobb> monkeyjuice: i'm sure it is the case that the settings for my account are messed up, my question is how to fix them without losing all of them
[11:34] <drbobb> I'm using the wl driver for my broadcom wireless, should I perhaps switch to a different driver?
[11:38] <ct529> drbobb: do you know whether the system is recognising the adapter correctly?
[11:39] <drbobb> ct529: well it works with *some* (or most) access points, so..?
[11:40] <ct529> drbobb: could you please do lspci | grep -i wirel on your system? It is difficult to answer without knowing the adapter
[11:40] <drbobb> from another angle, the output of lshw or lspci seems correct
[11:41] <drbobb> ct529: I already said it was BCM4313, look above
[11:42] <ct529> drbobb: yes, I know, what I need to know is if your system RECOGNISES it as a BCM4313
[11:43] <ct529> drbobb: if your system rocognises it as somehting else it could work in some siuations and not in others
[11:43] <drbobb> ct529: I already said so
[11:44] <ct529> drbobb: where did you say it?
[11:45] <drbobb> [13:40:46] <drbobb> from another angle, the output of lshw or lspci seems correct
[11:46] <ct529> drbobb: well, we need to see it .... we would also need to see the output of lsmod to help, and of uname -ram, to make sure the correct module is loaded
[11:47] <drbobb> $ lsmod |grep wl
[11:47] <drbobb> wl                   4207474  0
[11:47] <drbobb> lib80211               14352  2 wl,lib80211_crypt_tkip
[11:47] <drbobb> cfg80211              479757  1 wl
[11:47] <FloodBotK1> drbobb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <mparillo> Andalias: Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1214668
[11:47] <ct529> drbobb: it is really difficult to diagnose the probelm and propose a solution without seeing those data. Unfortunately, now I have to go. Pleas paetebinit!!!!
[11:48] <ct529> drbobb: with the correct information, people will certainly be able to help you!
[11:48] <ct529> brb
[12:48] <anubis> Hello guys, i just instaled Kubuntu and i am pretty happy about it. Just a few questions: First of all: rekonq has very nice pdf-support. Is there some way to have the same behaviour in chromium browser? I once tried kparts but it did not work as expected (it opned pdf very nicely but tried to open other things as well). And second: Is there an easy way to install the cuda framework And or OpenCL?
[13:56] <PT_Dreamer> Hi all, just upgraded to 13.10 and hate the new network manager, can anyone tell me how to get the old one back?
[14:05] <Noobcake> Hi, I just updated to 13.10 but my sound is not working. I have an Intel integrated sound card. If I go to the KDE audio settings I can see that the internal audio is greyed out and it's using "Dummy output". If I go to Audio Hardware setup I can't select my sound card. Can anyone give me some pointers to resolve this please? Thanks in advance.
[14:39] <schimpansky> Hi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software center. everytime i open it it close down after some minutes. anybody have some ide'why? please help me.
[14:50] <schimpansky> Hi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software  │ Avihay
[14:50] <schimpansky>                      | center. everytime i open it it close down after some minutes. anybody have some ide'why? please    │ away
[14:50] <schimpansky>                      | help me
[14:51] <schimpansky>                      | center. everytime i open it it close down after some seconds. anybody have some ide'why? please    │ away
[15:08] <schimpansky> Hi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software center. everytime i open it it close down after some seconds. anybody have some ide'why? please help me.
[15:22] <wr3d> schimpansky: i was having the same issues, after updates it got fixed
[15:23] <wr3d> schimpansky: you can try running it from command line to give you clues
[15:37] <schimpansky> thx. i try that
[15:41] <schimpansky> updating the system didnt work
[15:44] <schimpansky> sorry guys. i have updated the system now.  i ment that opdating the system didnt solve my problem.
[15:55] <cer> hi everybody how do you sandbox an application on kubuntu / ubuntu?
[15:59] <cer> and how do you control the prequency of the processor? All the previous tools and toys do not work anymore (indicator-cpufreq, cpufreq and so on)
[16:21] <EugeneK> hello. can anyone help me with Kubuntu? I'm new user
[16:22] <thingol_> hi EugeneK, please state your problem and we'll do our very best to help you
[16:26] <EugeneK> in Muon software center i can't see flash player installer
[16:28] <thingol_> have you tried to search with the "flash" keyword so to shorten the list of packages presented ?
[16:29] <EugeneK> i tried search in Muon by keyword.
[16:33] <EugeneK> someone advice me install "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras " now flash player works. Thanks all :)
[16:53] <rosco_y> How can I record a desktop session (console application + audio to speakers) to a ogg file?
[19:39] <PT_Dreamer> hi all
[19:39] <PT_Dreamer> upgraded to 13.10 and the new network manager isnt showing any details, not even wireless strenght, any help fixing this?
[19:54] <lemondrop> hi, i have mint 15 kde, & kvpnc is crashing upon import of my vpn provider's config files. the kde crash handler opens, and it says Details: Executable: kvpnc PID 4313 Signal: Aborted (6)
[19:55] <lemondrop> i'm still able to use the tray icon for my network to connect pretty quickly.. does anyone know if this is an easy fix?
[21:50] <guest-lJMjYi> I am having a display and audio issue.  Logging in as guest all works fine,
[21:50] <guest-lJMjYi> Audio in reg account is fubar, in guest it is fine
[21:51] <guest-lJMjYi> This happened in the 13.10 uprade
[21:53] <valorie> guest-lJMjYi: have you looked into your ~/.kde folder to see what might be causing that?
[21:54] <guest-lJMjYi> i don't know what to look for
[21:54] <valorie> you can do that from a console
[21:54] <valorie> i'll look at mine and see if anything looks likely
[21:55] <valorie> although since I only have a laptop, your setup will likely have entries that mine does not
[21:56] <valorie> however, a cat ~/.kde/share/config is a good place to start
[21:56] <guest-lJMjYi> I ma having some fubar with my beats audio as well. as a guest, all is well, but regular acct, my speakers are wonky, the bass is not playing, and the mute key light stays on whether muted or not
[21:56] <guest-lJMjYi> valorie: mine is a laptop as well HP envy
[21:58] <valorie> so one thing to do is look at the guest account config folder, and compare it to your user version
[21:58] <valorie> hard to keep logging in back and forth, I know
[21:58] <valorie> sometimes I just take a photo with my cell phone, lol
[21:59] <guest-lJMjYi> I can do that with dolphin  root mode split screen no?
[22:00] <guest-lJMjYi> it is asking me for guest password
[22:00] <guest-lJMjYi> How can I log into the console as my regular user?
[22:00] <valorie> oh, I never thought of doing that; I suppose you can!
[22:01] <valorie> are you saying you have no X even, when you try to log in as yourself?
[22:01] <valorie> no access to a console?
[22:02] <guest-lJMjYi> I got it, when using konsole it is as my guest, su regaccount switches user to the reg account
[22:02] <guest-lJMjYi> then I can sudo dolphin
[22:02] <guest-lJMjYi> Now where are my guest config files stored?
[22:02] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Use kdesudo, not sudo for GUI apps.
[22:03] <valorie> this is where it would get confusing, but it will be in home/guest/.kde
[22:03] <valorie> oooo, good call Addle
[22:03] <valorie> I didn't catch that
[22:03] <guest-lJMjYi> Why is that?
[22:03]  * valorie goes to get coffee
[22:03] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: It can end up creating root owned files in your user home directory, which can lead to issues later.
[22:04] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: kdesudo is meant to avoid that.
[22:04] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: doing that says no protocol specified, kdesudo cannot connect to X server
[22:04] <guest-lJMjYi> whereas sudo started dolphin
[22:06] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Huh, let's see... You said you did an 'su regaccount'? Perhaps 'su - regaccount' is why it's complaining. Sort of a guess.
[22:07] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: The dash means su will make a new login shell. Otherwise, it keeps your previous environment variables.
[22:08] <guest-lJMjYi> su -regaccount gives the error invalid option
[22:09] <guest-lJMjYi> let's just get the config squared away to look for difference, as su dolphin if I just rmember to verify ownership and settings of file it will work
[22:09] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Put a space on each side of the dash.
[22:10] <guest-lJMjYi> same errors
[22:10] <guest-lJMjYi> where are the default guest config files that would control the display
[22:10] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Sure, just be aware of the potential issues if you end up with root owned files in the wrong place. If something goes wrong, it'll be a good first thing to check.
[22:11] <guest-lJMjYi> Makes sense
[22:11] <guest-lJMjYi> Keep a log of the files I made / corrected etc
[22:11] <guest-lJMjYi> written that is
[22:12] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: any idea which file would be causing the display hangup on my regular acct, and not in guest
[22:12] <gessi><PHONE_NUMBER>
[22:13] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Not really. I think valorie had some ideas.
[22:13] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: in my reg account all was fine I thought after my upgrade, but after connecting to my TV via HDMI, I am having display issues. When not plugged in, at times it acts like it is, so my laptop screen is blank, but plugging in show on the TV
[22:13] <guest-lJMjYi> valorie: any idea where to start checking for the video file discrepency?
[22:14] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: do you know where the guest config file are?
[22:14] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: I wonder if your laptop doesn't have some key combination to switch displays that might work here.
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> I have tried, I have the display icon on a key (f4) but pressing that doesn't do anything
[22:15] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Something in .kde/shre/config was valorie's first suggestion.
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> pp
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> pp
[22:15] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Was worth a shot :)
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> yep. Even in messing with the system settings, display in the reg acct doesn't work :-(
[22:17] <guest-lJMjYi> something is FUBAR. Dolphin in guest is very fast, in my reg account, slow
[22:17] <guest-lJMjYi> that is for a later date
[22:20] <valorie> I didn't see a file in my .kde that jumped out
[22:20] <guest-lJMjYi> hmm
[22:20] <guest-lJMjYi> darn
[22:20] <valorie> however, it has to be there somewhere, or guest wouldn't work
[22:20] <guest-lJMjYi> do you know where the guest config files are?
[22:20] <valorie> so, you can just .... rename your .kde
[22:21] <valorie> as I said, they will be in /home/guest/.kde
[22:21] <guest-lJMjYi> I don't show a /home/guest
[22:21] <valorie> that is painting with a pretty broad brush, though, and you either have to move stuff back into your freshly created .kde
[22:21] <valorie> or reset everything else up
[22:21] <valorie> from root?
[22:22] <valorie> you should be able to see all users
[22:22] <guest-lJMjYi> yep I can only see my reg account
[22:22] <guest-lJMjYi> no guest directory
[22:22] <valorie> I mean, whatever you called guest
[22:22] <guest-lJMjYi> maybe in tmp?
[22:23] <valorie> if you actually set up a guest account, with password, there should be something
[22:23] <valorie> or nothing would work
[22:23] <guest-lJMjYi> nope, just hte default guest login. I found it in temp, name of guest session
[22:23] <valorie> ah
[22:23] <valorie> ok, that's not really a new user, then
[22:24] <guest-lJMjYi> but in .kde I don't see any config files
[22:24] <guest-lJMjYi> hmm
[22:24] <guest-lJMjYi> must be from somewhere
[22:24] <valorie> share/config
[22:24] <valorie> not .kde/config
[22:24] <valorie> so ~/.kde/share/config
[22:24] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Wait, isn't it your non-guest account that's broken? Those are the .kde files you should be looking at.
[22:25] <guest-lJMjYi> yes Addle, but I want to compare them to something that works, like guest
[22:25] <valorie> Addle: guest-lJMjYi had the idea of comparing them side to side
[22:25] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Oh, ok. Gotcha. :)
[22:25] <valorie> I've never tried doing that
[22:25] <guest-lJMjYi> valorie: that is where it is .kde/config/share are 81 items
[22:26] <guest-lJMjYi> what file would be the display? x server?
[22:29] <valorie> I see a file in home, called Xauthority, but I don't know what that is
[22:29] <valorie> googling
[22:29] <valorie> like: ~/.Xauthority
[22:29] <guest-lJMjYi> Me as well. I found a plasma-desktoprc that links to other files
[22:31] <valorie> http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/xauth.1.html
[22:31] <valorie> I don't think you are getting as far as plasma booting up
[22:31] <valorie> x is freaking out
[22:31] <guest-lJMjYi> I get the splash screen, I log into my reg account, I get the blue block, the disk drive fades in, then . .  nothing
[22:31] <valorie> but I have no experience this far down the stack
[22:33] <valorie> guest-lJMjYi: you might look in /var/log for something like xsession errors or close
[22:33] <valorie> and see if there is anything interesting
[22:33] <valorie> in console ls /var/log
[22:33] <guest-lJMjYi> ok
[22:34] <valorie> and then cat the interesting file(s)
[22:40] <valorie> guest-lJMjYi: any luck?
[22:41] <guest-lJMjYi> that xauth files are not text files :-(
[22:44] <guest-lJMjYi> another reference that looked promising was in /etc/kde4/kdm$ but in my kde4 dir, there is nothing
[22:45] <valorie> no, that's why I provided you the URL ref
[22:45] <guest-lJMjYi> I do see a ~/.kde/share/config/kxrandrc
[22:46] <valorie> I have no such file
[22:46] <valorie> that's a text file, so check it out
[22:46] <guest-lJMjYi> Boom that might do it, as it says HMDI active = true
[22:47] <guest-lJMjYi> me take that to false and see
[22:47] <valorie> esp. if there is a diff between guest and your user
[22:47] <valorie> wow, promising!
[22:48] <guest-lJMjYi> it is krandrc,
[22:48] <apb> Anybody know of a good mail program?  I've given pretty much given up on Thunderbird.
[22:49] <apb> s/given//
[22:49] <guest-lJMjYi> no krandrc in the /tmp/guest-lJMjYi/.kde/share/config/krandrc  Don't know where guest is getting that from. I will turn of HDMI active and see what goes, can always log into guest again
[22:49] <guest-lJMjYi> here it goes
[22:50] <valorie> good luck, guest-lJMjYi
[23:02] <bjr-test> valorie: no good :-(
[23:03] <bjr-test> I created a new account vs working in guest to see if I can resolve it
[23:03] <valorie> and?
[23:03] <bjr-test> same thing happened
[23:03] <valorie> disappointing that the easy way didn't work
[23:04] <bjr-test> yep
[23:04] <bjr-test> interesting that the new account doesn't ahve the krandrc
[23:04] <valorie> so, if you want advice: log out of your regular account, and mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old
[23:04] <valorie> in a console
[23:04] <valorie> oh, or: just delete that krandrc altogether
[23:05] <valorie> again, while logged out from your account
[23:05] <valorie> that is worth a try first
[23:05] <valorie> and by delete, I mean rename
[23:05] <bjr-test> I am logged out of the old acct
[23:05] <bjr-test> ok
[23:05] <valorie> you will have to log out of KDE altogether
[23:06] <bjr-test> Interesting in new account, in the root dolphin, I can not access the original user .kde :-(
[23:06] <valorie> so mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc to -old
[23:06] <valorie> mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc-old
[23:07] <valorie> oops,
[23:07] <valorie> mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc-old
[23:07] <valorie> don't leave that second mv in there!
[23:09] <bjr-test> I renamed that krandrc
[23:09] <bjr-test> now try to get into that acct?
[23:10] <valorie> yup
[23:36] <bjrohan> valorie: I came home to be able to try and plug into my TV and get my original acct to reset. no such luc k so far
[23:37] <jalcine> apb: try KMAil
[23:40] <valorie> bjrohan: I guess try either the kubuntu-user mail list or the forums
[23:40] <valorie> or file a bug against krandr
[23:41] <valorie> see if you can get some devel input about what's going on
[23:41] <valorie> plugging into your TV shouldn't throw kub. into a tizzy like this
[23:41] <bjrohan> It didn't in 13.04, just since the upgrade to 13.10
[23:41] <bjrohan> same with my beats audio
[23:42] <valorie> sure, and that could point to a kernel change instead, maybe
[23:42] <valorie> but i'll bet the krandr devel would know better
[23:43] <bjrohan> okay. thanks for your help. Now in the system setting dsiplay, if I uncheck the TV that is connected, and unplug my laptop screen gets lines in it :-(
[23:43] <bjrohan> very very odd
[23:43] <valorie> I read this chan faithfully, and I've not seen anyone else with your situation
[23:48] <jalcine> what kind of laptop is he using?
[23:48] <jalcine> very odd