[00:00] <ang_> popey: I also tried to check under software updates, additional drivers but it doesnt show me any drivers!
[00:00] <daftykins> bluetower: sure, but too old to be supported by current software component versions in ubuntu
[00:00] <popey> ang_: realtek have drivers on their site I believe, assuming it's a realtek based device
[00:00] <ang_> popey: yes, rtl8192cu
[00:00] <bluetower> hum.... its wierd though because I did something and then I did an apt-get update and the next time I booted I have 3d accelearation
[00:01] <bluetower> In debian
[00:01] <delinquentme> popey, if you send it an input which has the extension .tar ....
[00:01] <popey> ang_: maybe try an updated driver from realtek http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=277&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[00:02] <popey> delinquentme: tar is very old software ☻
[00:02] <bluetower> and yes your all right if I use the default driver that installs I have great 2d but I have no hardware video acceleration of any kind including video decoding I've noted
[00:02] <valiente> ok so i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and when I close the lid and it suspends itself or if I just suspend it, the screen wont turn back on unless I just cut the power and restart it. Any ideas?
[00:03] <popey> valiente: when it wakes from suspend, try switching to the first TTY with CTRL+ALT+F1, then to the GUI with CTRL+ALT+F7 as a workaround ?
[00:03] <ang_> popey: got a tar.gz file, could you please tell me what should I do with it?
[00:04] <bluetower> valiente, cant you ctrl+alt+F(x) swich between console's? or does that give you video at all?
[00:04] <popey> ang_: need to find a tutorial for it..
[00:06] <popey> ang_: there's a few out there, http://askubuntu.com/a/342139/612 looks close to what you need to do, but you might want to wait for someone else who has more recent experience with that card.
[00:07] <ang_> popey: thank you, will check it out and try to install it
[00:07] <popey> good luck
[00:08] <ZackWolf_> hey all... i am really new to Ubuntu how ever have built a LTSP server.  We have a mix of RDP thin clients and PXE thin clients.  I'd prefer all PXE however some of them are old.  Question i have is how can I have a shared folder where all users have read/write access to all files and all new files going into that folder
[00:13] <kardan> Sadly no news after all: Fetched 337 MB in 52min 21s (107 kB/s) | libreoffice-gnome:i386 conflicts with libreoffice-core:i386 | libpango-1.0-0:i386 conflicts with plymouth:i386 | E: Internal Error, No file name for libss2
[00:14] <ang_> Hi all, I have an issue with my wifi, I am using an usb adapter and I keep losing connection. I moved the computer near the modem to be able to plug in and look for help in this chat, anyone has any idea of how to fix this?
[00:14] <ang_> popey: the commands in the link wont work
[00:14] <kardan> I searched for the libss2 error before and found a form suggesting 'dpkg --configure --pending' but in this case it just gives up as well.
[00:16] <kardan> maybe this is a reappearance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/935078 - I could add some more info there.
[00:20] <kevin__> my screen keeps shutting off and not turning back on when i put it in suspend. Any ideas?
[00:25] <kardan> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libss2: libss2 depends on libc6 (>= 2.17); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.15-0ubuntu10.6. dependency problems - leaving unconfigured. - So as long libc6 can't be upgraded libss2 will fail to be installed.
[00:26] <kevin__> When I go into suspend mode on my laptop, the screen wont turn back on unless I cut the power and restart it. How do I get the screen to work?
[00:37] <trouble_> 12
[00:41] <stevendumani> hello everyone, I'm having this problem http://pastebin.com/AuEJBM1U
[00:43] <ricksebak> popey: or anybody who knows kernel panics. i've now got logs of the whole kernel panic. but I don't really know what I'm looking for. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8049608/
[00:44] <apb1963> I'm trying to run apache on a different port.... it doesn't seem to want to listen to me.  It keeps running IP6 on port 80... I want IP4 on a different port...  I changed it in the ../sites-enabled dir in the vhost config... but there's nothing listening on that new port....
[00:45] <wheatthin> ricksebak, are you using an out of repo virtualbox install?
[00:46] <ricksebak> wheatthin: it's from the download.virtualbox.org repo
[00:46] <wheatthin> apb1963, may I ask why you need it on a different port?
[00:47] <ricksebak> 4.3.8
[00:47] <wheatthin> ricksebak, that's why. And it's unsupported here I think.. but you need to reinstall it
[00:47] <wheatthin> so it updates with your current kenrel
[00:47] <wheatthin> kernel*
[00:48] <ricksebak> wheatthin: I need to reinstall vbox from the official ubuntu repos, or just reinstall it from the oracle repo?
[00:48] <apb1963> wheatthin: I have two machines behind a router... the router will only forward packets to one IP per port.  So in order to use the same service on a different machine, it needs to run on a different port.
[00:48] <wheatthin> well I'd uninstall it and install using ubuntu repo, so it isn't a hassle next time
[00:49] <wheatthin> apb1963, couldn't you use a dns server internally for reference to the accepted port? then use port triggering?
[00:49] <apb1963> s/run/listen/
[00:50] <ricksebak> wheatthin: i can do that, but the 12.04 repos are a bit out of date, understandably so. Can you explain to me what I'm running into here? Like, I wouldn't expect a guest to really care where a hypervisor came from?
[00:50] <apb1963> wheatthin: really?  setup an entire DNS server in order to avoid running apache on a different port?
[00:51] <wheatthin> apb1963, no, you can run it on any port you want via apache2.conf or httpd.conf via virtual host config section.. But.. yeah..
[00:52] <wheatthin> but it's not a virtual host, so I dunno
[00:53] <apb1963> I should mention that the machine that's not working is 14.04 with apache 2.4... that machine that does work (albeit on port 80) is 12.04 with apache 2.2
[00:53] <wheatthin> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/vhosts/examples.html    apb1963
[00:53] <apb1963> s/that/the
[00:53] <wheatthin> in the machine that has access
[00:53] <wheatthin> via port 80..
[00:53] <wheatthin> instead of using *:80
[00:54] <wheatthin> select the IP of the other machine
[00:54] <wheatthin> and select port 80
[00:54] <adoniscik> if apt-cache says that a package is 3.5.0-2ubuntu1~saucy1~ppa1 does that mean it is only for saucy?
[00:54] <apb1963> so do this: <VirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS>>
[00:55] <apb1963> with a Listen 82
[00:55] <bluetower> ok so https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD I followed the command line install trying to get drivers installed
[00:55] <ricksebak> adoniscik: yes.
[00:55] <adoniscik> so how did I install it in precise, ricksebak?
[00:56] <ricksebak> adoniscik: find a package that was built for precise, or compile from source.
[00:56] <bluetower> sudo aticonfig --initial            command gave me
[00:56] <bluetower> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[00:57] <apb1963> wheatthin: no yo're saying something different.... it sounds like yo're saying to "disable" access on the working machine???  By specifying the other machine's IP?  Not following.
[00:57] <wheatthin> bluetower, did you run    sudo aticonfig --initial
[00:57] <adoniscik> ricksebak, this package is supposedly built for precise. See lapack: https://launchpad.net/~marutter/+archive/ubuntu/rdev?field.series_filter=precise
[00:57] <wheatthin> no, it has to have the original IP for the main machine, then under virtual hosts, you specify the next machine
[00:57] <bluetower> wheatthin, yes as per the responce it gave me
[00:58] <wheatthin> bluetower, restart?
[00:58] <bluetower> I tried before and after reboot
[00:58] <bluetower> same responce aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[00:58] <el_toro> leave
[00:58] <wheatthin> bluetower, can you confirm that the xorg.conf file was created in /etc/X11?
[00:58] <bluetower> how do I do that?
[00:59] <wheatthin> bluetower,    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "driver"
[01:00] <bluetower> there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:00] <bluetower> at least not at THAT location
[01:00] <ricksebak> adoniscik: I'm not seeing anything that leads me to believe that lapack was built for precise
[01:00] <wheatthin> apb1963, then you go to your /etc/hosts file and enter your fqdn of your other machine and ip address so it knows it by that name
[01:00] <l> amadyang
[01:01] <bluetower> wheatthin, I get no such file or directory
[01:01] <Guest27237> nick
[01:01] <wheatthin> bluetower, then it wasn't created my friend
[01:01] <bluetower> how do I create it?
[01:01] <adoniscik> ricksebak, isn't that implied by filtering the entries for precise, as I did?
[01:01] <wheatthin> bluetower, what command did you use to install the drivers?
[01:01] <adoniscik> what purpose does the filter serve otherwise?
[01:02] <wheatthin> bluetower,    sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[01:02] <bluetower> I'm new to debian based linux, I've been using fedora for years
[01:02] <bluetower> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[01:02] <apb1963> wheatthin: it doesn't have an fqdn other than perhaps  notworking.local ????   Also, are you referencing the section in the link you provided titled "Running different sites on different ports." ???
[01:02] <bluetower> I followed the from command line
[01:02] <wheatthin> Yes.
[01:02] <apb1963> wheatthin: yes to which question?  :)
[01:03] <wheatthin> apb1963, sorry, to yours.
[01:04] <apb1963> wheatthin: I meant... I asked two questions... 1. about fqdn (noworking.local) 2. The section you referenced.
[01:04] <ricksebak> adoniscik: in my experience, and maybe i'm wrong, no. If a package doesn't say it was built for precise, it's not for precise. If you can't find one that's built for precise and you end up compiling from source, look into checkinstall, it will at least let you build from source and then hook that into dpkg.
[01:04] <bluetower> I had 3d accelearation working on debian 7.6 with my ati x1050 but was having other driver issues. so I figured I'd try ubuntu. so far no such luck
[01:04] <wheatthin> bluetower, for your question, there's like 3 options...  sudo apt-get install fglrx   apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-updates-experimental I think.. I used fglrx-updates
[01:05] <wheatthin> bluetower, which one did you use?
[01:05] <bluetower> and there is a difference between them?
[01:05] <wheatthin> yes, one is maintained by ubuntu, and the other are from amd
[01:05] <wheatthin> the original release, and beta release from amd, bluetower
[01:06] <bluetower> wheatthin, first I did the headers, then I did sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[01:06] <TJ-> apb1963: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/bind.html
[01:06] <Bashing-om> bluetower: Show the channel the card you have -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , old card ? ATI droppped support and there is no proprietary driver available.
[01:06] <wheatthin> after you had installed the kernel drivers, did you reboot immediately?
[01:07] <ricksebak> wheatthin: i can reinstall vbox. Can you explain to me what I'm running into here? Like, I wouldn't expect a guest to really care where a hypervisor came from? Not suggesting your answer is wrong, I just don't understand how the guest could know or care where the hypervisor came from?
[01:07] <bluetower> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga
[01:07] <bluetower> crap
[01:07] <wheatthin> ricksebak, what I'm seeing is when you updated ubuntu, virtualbox compiled software didn't update with it.
[01:07] <bluetower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8049709/
[01:09] <bluetower> well I'll be back food is ready finally
[01:09] <ricksebak> wheatthin: "virtualbox compiled software" meaning the guest additions kernel modules on the guest? or vbox itself on the host?
[01:09] <wheatthin> virtualbox software itself that runs in the background as it's main servers
[01:09] <wheatthin> service*
[01:10] <wheatthin> ricksebak, it requires updating once the kernel updates, to be able to initialize the hardware
[01:10] <kernel_sanders>  /ignore * joins
[01:11] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you.  that reinforces what I had already understood...  what's baffling is weathin is apparently telling me to setup the working machine (lets call it blue) with two listen directives - one at port 80 and one at say port 82, and then have two vhosts, one for blue and one for the other machine that's not working (call it red) listening on port 82, all within the config file on blue.  That's got my mind boggled.  I could understand doing this on (red).
[01:11] <apb1963> . and that would make sense to me.
[01:11] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's not what I said.
[01:11] <apb1963> ok
[01:13] <wheatthin> apb1963, you keep the original ports, you create your domain name or whatever you have pointing to your hosts as dns goes in your /etc/hosts file, so the main server knows the other. Under the virtual hosts section in the apache.conf, you specify the other machine with the default port.
[01:13] <wheatthin> when an external hit goes to the main server, it'll check it's conf, and go to the secondary server hosted on the same port
[01:14] <basaatw> I'm having trouble installing java on my linux mint disrto >>  I was on #linuxmint-help they thought I should ask my question in #ubuntu  I was using icetea but a software I use does not like icetea and they recommended I use the full version of Java   Is this the place I need to ask how to get rid of icetea and install default
[01:14] <basaatw> full ver of Java
[01:15] <daftykins> !mint | basaatw
[01:15] <apb1963> wheatthin: I'm sorry I'm having a really hard time understanding what you're saying.  I have two physical machines.  It sounds like you think I want to run two servers on one machine.  I don't.
[01:16] <wheatthin> apb1963, for instance, my server is beeworld.agent79.org., but my secondary config points to a virtual host and goes to security.beeworld.agent79.org.
[01:16] <wheatthin> in the main servers apache.conf, under the virtualhost section, you specify the IP:80 to the secondary machine
[01:17] <apb1963> ok, I'll give that a try
[01:17] <amadyang> 测试
[01:17] <wheatthin> apb1963, my apache is hosted on <IP_ADDRESS>, but my secondary host is <IP_ADDRESS>.. My dns server tells an external hit, that it's located on a different machine on the same network.
[01:18] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's what your /etc/hosts file will do
[01:18] <apb1963> ok
[01:18] <dustylinux> any Internet download manager compatible to ubuntu 14.04?
[01:18] <shuman> wget
[01:20] <apb1963> I will try.  So in my hosts file I simply put <IP_ADDRESS> red.somerandom_domain.local ?
[01:21] <wheatthin> apb1963, not, .local cause that refers to a localhost
[01:22] <wheatthin> apb1963, do you have a registered dns name?
[01:22] <apb1963> wheatthin: I have a free one for the working machine.
[01:23] <apb1963> wheatthin: which is of course assigned to my router in reality
[01:23] <wheatthin> does it have a wildcard allowing you to have virtualhosts?
[01:23] <wheatthin> subdomains*
[01:23] <apb1963> wheatthin: not sure.  it's freedns.afraid.org
[01:23] <apb1963> although I think so.... but not sure
[01:23] <wheatthin> well if so, you'll set the dns up with it's domainname, adding a subdomain to the prefix
[01:24] <wheatthin> in your virtualhost section and /etc/hosts file
[01:25] <wheatthin> apb1963, so if your domain name is    freedns.afraid.org, and your subdomain (secondary http server) is slapme.freedns.afraid.org, you'll need to supply that information to your /etc/hosts file
[01:26] <wheatthin> see what I mean?
[01:26] <wheatthin> then add your ip and port to the secondary machine in the httpd.conf or apache.conf whichever
[01:26] <apb1963> wheatthin: no no... freedns.afraid.org is the service I use to get free dns
[01:26] <wheatthin> apb1963, well then take that as an example
[01:27] <apb1963> there's just one IP
[01:27] <ricksebak> wheatthin: I updated vbox and i've now got a functional 14.04 VM. I never woulda guessed that. I'll ask the vbox forums or whatever to explain why this happened so I can get it in more detail. Thanks friend!
[01:29] <apb1963> wheatthin: My ISP allocates one IP.  My router takes it.  The router then allocates additional private IP's to my two physical machines.
[01:29] <EsoRotica> Oh no, my fail whale is dead ><
[01:29] <wheatthin> apb1963, right, which works through NAT (Network Address Translation)
[01:30] <apb1963> wheatthin: freedns.org associates that one IP with the public domain name they supply, and the subdomain I pick.
[01:30] <apb1963> right
[01:30] <wheatthin> apb1963, right.. which is what I meant by external hit to your domain name..
[01:30] <wheatthin> the one that is default host is your main machine which is assigned via dmz or port forwarding
[01:31] <apb1963> wheatthin: but in order to allocate a second subdomain, I either need to give freedns a second IP, or use the same IP.  I don't have a second IP to give it.
[01:32] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's the one whose configs are going to point to the secondary machine in it's virtualhost section, as well as contain the subdomain and IP address in the /etc/hosts file so it knows who it is by name
[01:33] <wheatthin> apb1963, if you have a wildcard, which shows up as *.domain.com or whatever, you can throw any subdomain name at it under your domain and it'll point to the main machine requesting the subdomain from it
[01:33] <apb1963> wheatthin: so if I tell freedns to use one IP and have two A records with two different subdomains both with the same IP, then the router would need to differentiate between two machines somehow.
[01:33] <motaka2> hello
[01:33] <apb1963> wheatthin: ok, let me go see if I can figure out how to do that at freedns
[01:33] <wheatthin> apb1963, , not the router, the httpd.conf//etc/hosts file differentiates
[01:34] <apb1963> wheatthin: that's not making sense to me.  If I specify my domain name in the hosts file, then DNS is not queried afaik
[01:34] <kernix> hi all
[01:34] <wheatthin> usually with multiple subdomains, you'll want to use a dns server.. I'm using bind..
[01:35] <motaka2> how can I see all folders I shared in ubuntu ?
[01:35] <daftykins> motaka2: browse localhost via smb, if that's how you shared them
[01:35] <TJ-> apb1963: I've not been following but I think what wheatthin is describing, is configuring host A to receive all HTTP requests, but to proxy requests for host B
[01:35] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's where you're wrong, you'll need to have a wildcard on your freedns  host so it can say, "any subdomain under <your domain> will point to your external IP"
[01:35] <apb1963> TJ-: oh
[01:35] <apb1963> TJ-: well why didn't he say so?  lol
[01:36] <TJ-> apb1963: I'll let wheatthin confirm or deny the rumour :)
[01:36] <wheatthin> TJ-, rgr
[01:37] <apb1963> still not following the dns vs hosts issue though.  Either I do it in dns or I do it in the hosts file...  are you saying I need it in both?
[01:37] <wheatthin> then it's up to the computer accepting as the external IP to differentiate which internal IP is being used.
[01:37] <TJ-> apb1963: So you have a vhost section on host A that has Proxy entries pointing to the IP of host B. There are various Proxy options to disguise the proxy is happening
[01:38] <apb1963> ok, I think I better do this one step at a time.  Let me go look at freedns and see if I can figure out how to wildcard.  Give me a few minutes please.
[01:38] <wheatthin> apb1963, the /etc/hosts file will say,   <IP_ADDRESS> is subhost1.domain.com
[01:38] <motaka2> daftykins: thx
[01:39] <paola> hola
[01:39] <wheatthin> apb1963, btw, that's how google is setup :) but they use real dns servers :P instead of the /etc/hosts file
[01:39] <ramrebol1> Hi all. I have a little problem. On my Emacs are not working dead symbols (like ^, ` and ´). This is an reported bug. I solved by invoking on the terminal "XMODIFIERS = emacs" instead of "emacs" (or just /usr/bin/emacs). For convenience, I wrote an alias and I added it to my bashrc (alias emacs='XMODIFIERS= emacs'). All works fine now, except that when I run emacs using the graphical part (Press windows button and typing emacs...) the sys
[01:42] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, you can create another .desktop shortcut with the alias enabled
[01:43] <TJ-> apb1963: wheatthin Here's my configuration, used to proxy to a local dev server over a VPN from one of my datacenter servers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8049885/
[01:43] <apb1963> ok, I'm not sure if I did it strictly correct, but it seems to be working.  I can ping x.y.com as well as red.x.y.com  ... both respond with the same ip address.
[01:45] <wheatthin> apb1963, k, now in your /etc/hosts file on your main machine accepting the request, put the secondary host information for the subdomain
[01:45] <TJ-> wheatthin: There's no need for hosts entries using Apache's Proxy configuration
[01:45] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you..  looks a bit hairy.  I'll have to study that for awhile.
[01:45] <TJ-> apb1963: Very simple, couldn't be easier!
[01:46] <apb1963> TJ-: it's always easy when you know what you're doing!
[01:46] <TJ-> apb1963: My config has authorisation which you don't need
[01:46] <noaccel> Is there a ppa with the latest radeon drivers? xorg-edgers no longer seems to ahve fglrx
[01:46] <TJ-> apb1963: You only need the lines above "<Proxy *>"
[01:47] <wheatthin> TJ-, I see..
[01:47] <TJ-> apb1963: correction, you may need the "<Proxy *>" and its first 2 lines ("order..." and "allow ...") and the closing "</Proxy>"
[01:47] <wheatthin> always good to know :).. unless you gotta incorporate ftp and other services
[01:48] <apb1963> TJ-: ok, one line at a time please.  ServerName is the host acting as proxy, corrrect?
[01:48] <apb1963> oh man... ftp and stuff :/
[01:49] <apb1963> stand back... my brain is swelling... it will soon reach critical mass
[01:49] <TJ-> apb1963: "hq.iam.tj" is replaced by the public hostname you want the Internet to see
[01:50] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: this is my .desktop http://pastebin.com/knaS6BqS   I tried changing "Exec=/usr/bin/emacs24" by "emacs" (then I logout and login) but does not work :(
[01:50] <TJ-> apb1963: "ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse" is the local IP address of server B
[01:51] <ramrebol1> sorry, I changed "Exec=/usr/bin/emacs24" by "Exec=emacs"
[01:51] <paola> alguien me enseña ingles
[01:51] <paola> jajja+
[01:51] <ramrebol1> jaja paola
[01:51] <ramrebol1> What are you doing here? where you from?
[01:51] <second> hello. does anyone know the command to download and install OpenVPN?
[01:51] <second> ty
[01:51] <TJ-> apb1963: Your "ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse"  target URLs probably don't want the "/testing/" path on the end, just "/"
[01:51] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, edit the exec line to match your alias
[01:52] <TJ-> apb1963: why don't you send me a pvt msg with the domain name to answer to, and the IP of server A and server B, and I'll rewrite it for you
[01:53] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: I have two alias: "alias emacs='XMODIFIERS= emacs'" and "alias emacs24='XMODIFIERS= emacs24'". I also think that with that must work
[01:54] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, so use the xmodifiers one, but don't type emacs24, cause that's an actual alias, I just meant use it's options in quotes
[01:55] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, it won't use your emacs24 alias, cause it requires it to be launched by bash
[01:56] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you; publicserviceclub.com is the free public dns domain name.  asterisk is the subdomain for the machine listening on port 80; orange is the secondary machine.
[01:56] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, so we are using launch options
[01:56] <apb1963> doh!
[01:57] <wheatthin> lol
[01:58] <apb1963> erase erase erase
[01:58] <wheatthin> apb1963, it's all good, no ip's were released.
[01:58] <apb1963> oh well, I'll just change it later... they're free public addresses :)
[01:58] <apb1963> meh, it's dynamic anyway :)
[01:59] <wheatthin> ahh dns server?
[01:59] <wheatthin> err dsl*
[01:59] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: sorry, my english is not good. Do you say that instead of "/usr/bin/emacs24" I must to use just "emacs"?
[01:59] <ramrebol1> I need to change that in my .desktop?
[02:00] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, yup      "/usr/bin/emacs XMODIFIERS=emacs24"
[02:00] <wheatthin> if that's how your fix was in your original alias
[02:02] <mgrenier25> hi guys, i need some help with a bash script
[02:06] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: Thanks! So, I change "/usr/bin/emacs" by "/usr/bin/emacs XMODIFIERS=emacs24" on my .desktop, Do you think that I need to relog to see the results?
[02:06] <TJ-> !ask | mgrenier25
[02:07] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, no, it should be immediate
[02:07] <EsoRotica> Hello, I'm attempting to get a fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 installed. When using sane-find-scanners, I'm not able to see the device, Additionally my Virtualbox VM does not see any attached USB devices. Any IDeas?
[02:07] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: because not works. I tried to writting "/usr/bin/emacs XMODIFIERS=emacs" on my terminal and open emacs, but with the original error
[02:08] <mgrenier25> well, basically I use this script to call espeak and make it say a random sentence each time i login, any idea how to do this?
[02:09] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, like integrating "fortune" into your login?
[02:09] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, you forgot emacs24 behind XMODIFIERS
[02:10] <mgrenier25> not really, I want it to speak when It finished loading the desktop
[02:11] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, that was an example.
[02:12] <mgrenier25> I know, but I think fortune is for the console login
[02:12] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, and why couldn't it be used to pipe to espeak?
[02:13] <jim1> hello,i see a process named bioset running.what it is?ty
[02:13] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Try simple scan
[02:13] <mgrenier25> cause I already have my sentences I guess
[02:14] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Are you familiar with adding usb's to virtualbox?
[02:14] <EsoRotica> again, no scanners detected, for either gscan2pdf or simplescan
[02:14] <mgrenier25> script starts, choose 1 out of the 3 sentences I made, play it through espeak, end of script
[02:14] <EsoRotica> Not entirely, I've added extensions and set an All filter Beldar
[02:15] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, in that cause you'll need to have them formatted correctly, then initialize it using xsessions file
[02:15] <Beldar> EsoRotica, In preferences with virtual box off is a usb add option, that has to be set up foe any specific usb.
[02:16] <Beldar> for*
[02:16] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, which will execute it as it's loading the desktop
[02:16] <Beldar> EsoRotica, I don,t have any boxes set up right now so you can look through it.
[02:16] <mgrenier25> my script is already in the autostart list, I guess I just don't have the right syntax for it
[02:17] <EsoRotica> Beldar: There seems to be an option to let "any" device through...
[02:17] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, that's another issue entirely.. which we don't support custom scripts :)
[02:17] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Not sure what any is, but I have always had to allow specific usb's set to work.
[02:18] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:18] <EsoRotica> Okay, so find them with the likes of lsusb, Beldar
[02:19] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: sorry, but if I have the line "Exec=/usr/bin/emacs24 XMODIFIERS=emacs" on my desktop so when start emacs is editing the file called "XMODIFIERS=emacs"
[02:19] <Beldar> EsoRotica, No the usb additions is in the preferences on a installed box, needs to have the virtual off to get it to setup and work upon booting. lsusb is Ubuntu identifying a usb, vbox has it's owb done first before seen by ubuntu.
[02:20] <Beldar> EsoRotica, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html
[02:21] <Beldar> EsoRotica, You can set it while the box is on, ut have to reboot it to have it work is all.
[02:21] <EsoRotica> Absolutely, its an ubuntu host, not windows. I'm having toubles seeing things in a windows VM
[02:21] <Beldar> but*
[02:22] <Beldar> EsoRotica, So what you are saying is ubuntu does not see the scanner at all even in a lsusb?
[02:24] <Beldar> EsoRotica, http://virantha.com/2014/03/17/one-touch-scanning-with-fujitsu-scansnap-in-linux/
[02:24] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I am infact also trying to ge tthat working. After starting the daemon I no longer see output in my syslog.
[02:25] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Next step in troubleshooting that is to remove the daemon and revert back to the test script
[02:25] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Seems to be issue in general with this model, second hit is a driver, best you see the goolge search I think. https://www.google.com/search?q=ScanSnap+S1500+linux&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1
[02:27] <Beldar> EsoRotica, simple scan has a generic set up I would get it that far for use, than if the vbox is still needed you should be set I would think if set up correctly.
[02:27] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I agree that there are problems getting it working in ubuntu, and several people stuggle with a few succeeding. With that in mind, thats why I'm attempting to pass it though to the VM
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Beldar: When adding a blank filter in VM it mentions it should match all attached USB devices. My hope was that by enabling that feature I would have to fuss around.
[02:28] <Beldar> EsoRotica, check out the links, as far as the pass to vbox.
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Thanks, Was checking other things and hadnt yet gotten to that link.
[02:28] <Beldar> EsoRotica, blank I have never used, the usb should be showing.
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Agreed
[02:32] <Beldar> EsoRotica, That is an expensive scanner, my 50$ epson flat worked out of the box
[02:34] <EsoRotica> Beldar: The guys whos computer I'm in thye process of setting up requires something fast as he is archiving all ofhis old paperwork.
[02:34] <Beldar> makes sense looked to be the advantage
[02:34] <EsoRotica> Also, I've converterd him over from Windows in this whole process... This is the ONLY problem he is having :)
[02:34] <EsoRotica> >50
[02:35] <Beldar> good job, all OS have there uses would be my basic answer, linux does 99% of mine.
[02:36] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Absolutely true. I just cant get used to Gimp.
[02:37] <EsoRotica> At most, this guy needs access to quickbooks, and PS.. otherwise.... data processing and internet browsing.
[02:37] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Mine is Word, a plugin and all my papers are rather complex and sent to a word user.
[02:37] <Beldar> for grading so easier to just have them render perfectly.
[02:39] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I've found for any school paper that needs specific formatting, Word keep my formatting best. Otherwise... I'm set with Writer: Another note -> this is moving too offtopic.
[02:39] <Beldar> true
[02:56] <xieyong> join #mir
[02:56] <bluetower> no
[02:59] <UBuxuBU> does anyone know the name of the dvd bruner that is in kubuntu?
[02:59] <UBuxuBU> noone is answering there
[03:00] <bluetower> are you looking for burning softare?
[03:00] <bluetower> software
[03:00] <bluetower> and as for kubuntu, its prob K3B
[03:06] <mgrenier25> UBuxuBU i think it's k3b
[03:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info k3b
[03:07] <bluetower> I said k3b like 10min ago heh
[03:10] <fossterer> Hello! Anybody facing issues with Indian languages in Ubuntu 14.04 using iBus?
[03:16] <flamedoge> hi
[03:22] <[Ex0r]> So i've got a question. I am using ftpd installed via apt-get, and I am getting very slow connections and timeouts when connecting to the FTP server
[03:22] <[Ex0r]> any idea why it could be ?
[03:24] <[Ex0r]> It's taking a very long time getting the initial directory listing, and than when it finally connects and you start transferring files over, they take forever, even for 2kb files, and a lot of times it gets a connection time out
[03:25] <[Ex0r]> although over SFTP seems to work, normal FTP doesn't
[03:36] <tac-tics> is there a way to have Unity handle multiple instances of the same application more intelligently?
[03:36] <tac-tics> specifically, when alt-tabbing through the list
[03:36] <tac-tics> I'm running into some subtle, quirky behavior, but it's driving me a little nuts
[03:37] <tac-tics> also, I am wondering if there's a way to get rid of the "Show Desktop" item in the alt-tab list
[03:39] <trism> tac-tics: if you just want to cycle through the instances of a single app you can use alt+`
[03:42] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[03:44] <HikaruBG> can anyone give me advice how to fix this error? Aug 14 15:41:13 svetoslav-Ubuntu NetworkManager[809]: <warn> error requesting auth for org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.wifi.share.open: (3) GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Could not get UID of name ':1.168': no such name
[03:44] <HikaruBG> anyone?
[03:46] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Is this basically the wifi is not working?
[03:46] <tac-tics> oh, apparently compiz settings lets you disable the show desktop item
[03:46] <tac-tics> and thanks trism
[03:48] <NickVersfelt_> What is "Grep" and why is it screwing me over?
[03:48] <NickVersfelt_> ANybody?
[03:49] <tac-tics> compiz settings actually fixes a lot of my grievings
[03:49] <tac-tics> score :D
[03:50] <Beldar> !details | NickVersfelt_ how is it bothering you
[03:51] <Beldar> !grep
[03:51] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_,  ^^^^^^^^
[03:53] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grep
[03:53] <NickVersfelt_> Greb is missing every time I try to apt-get updatee
[03:53] <NickVersfelt_> Every single thing I try to install not update, my bad
[03:53] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, You sure it is not grub?
[03:54] <NickVersfelt_> Oh sorry It is grep
[03:54] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, You have to use grep for it to be an issue, take a look at the last link.
[03:57] <NickVersfelt_> How could grep be missing in this case: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libuuid1:amd64.postinst: 27: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libuuid1:amd64.postinst: grep: not found
[03:58] <coolstar> is it possible for me to configure wifi settings from the command line?
[03:58] <jon9> anybody know if it is possible to update a minimal iso with zsync full iso Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:58] <coolstar> I have ubuntu minimal installed and want to get wireless up so I can install a custom display manager & desktop environment
[03:58] <NickVersfelt_> coolstar are you certain that your wirless cards support wifi?
[03:59] <Beldar> jon9, I doubt it, what is the end goal?
[03:59] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: yes it does, as it works in chrome os
[03:59] <coolstar> the issue is the machine has no ethernet card
[04:00] <jon9> to hopefully get my wireless up and running eventually
[04:00] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, I never use grep however when I see it used here it in a command.
[04:00] <Beldar> is*
[04:00] <coolstar> I can get any debs I need to on the machine using a USB drive though
[04:00] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: the wifi card works from the Ubuntu live usb also btw.
[04:01] <coolstar> actually just thought of something
[04:01] <coolstar> would it be possible to chroot from a live usb to the actual install?
[04:01] <coolstar> and install anything I need that way
[04:01] <mohsen-rashidi> Hello there
[04:01] <NickVersfelt_> That is what I did coolstar.
[04:01] <NickVersfelt_> Anybody having problems with trying to install anything?
[04:02] <NickVersfelt_> Always E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) for everything trying to install
[04:02] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: is there any guide on properly chrooting?
[04:03] <coolstar> I assume just using chroot won't work for dpkg, etc
[04:03] <NickVersfelt_> Its won't work for dpkg, I mostly did it bu attempting and failing a number of times
[04:04] <NickVersfelt_> since there are no reliable resources out there
[04:04] <OerHeks> NickVersfelt_, what ubuntu version are you on?
[04:05] <mohsen-rashidi> I`m  Fedora user and as you know we use Yum as package manager. Yum has a great feature called groupinstall which you can install many related software by just on command. I wonder to know does APT have such possibility or not?
[04:06] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: I remember back in the day I was able to get dpkg and even Xorg with synaptic working from a chroot, but alas that was 3 years ago :/
[04:06] <coolstar> I think it was some live cd guide
[04:06] <NickVersfelt_> Currently I am on 14.04
[04:06] <coolstar> aha, found it!
[04:06] <coolstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:07] <dyu> is it fine to manually delete files transferred by duplicity? like going to the ftp server and manually rm-ing them? or it's going to break some magical database or binary that keeps track of these things?
[04:07] <NickVersfelt_> Oh wow! That could prove to be very useful soon
[04:08] <coolstar> I wonder how much could break from resolv.conf anyways
[04:08] <coolstar> I'd just set it to <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS> anyways xD
[04:09] <NickVersfelt_> lol
[04:09] <NickVersfelt_> That could never fail
[04:09] <LostNva> NickVersfelt_: I can tell you what works for me to fix install prob
[04:09] <LostNva> NeckVersfelt: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo aptitude update
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:09] <unopaste> LostNva you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:10] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: the funny part was the faces of all the other kids at my school as I was running Ubuntu with persistence on my chromebook xD
[04:10] <coolstar> they were all stuck with a big web browser
[04:10] <NickVersfelt_> Try using Ubuntu without GUI for school :P
[04:11] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: that'll be fun! writing homework assignments up in vi
[04:11] <NickVersfelt_> Possible to print from nano or vi?
[04:12] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: don't think so but I can always scp the file to my main system
[04:14] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: the best part was they thought I was a hacker just because I passed the "-v" flag when booting it
[04:14] <NickVersfelt_> scp it to your main system which also runs Ubuntu without GUI
[04:14] <HikaruBG> Beldar, the Wifi is working
[04:14] <HikaruBG> just it comes up with this error
[04:14] <HikaruBG> and I don't know wnat is it
[04:14] <NickVersfelt_> xD To the untrained eye any fast moving text on a black and white screen is "hacking"
[04:20] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Where is the error from and why do you care if everything works?
[04:22] <Arunscape> is this the right place to look for support relating to wifi chipsets
[04:23] <Arunscape> I'm guessing not?
[04:23] <Beldar> Arunscape, Under ubuntu use probably.
[04:24] <Arunscape> Ubuntu use?
[04:24] <Beldar> Arunscape, This is ubuntu support.
[04:25] <adante> hi, when i use aptitude to install samba, it wants to uninstall a bunch of seemingyl unrelated packages like gvfs-backends, nautilus-share as well as samba related ones like libsmbclient, samba-common-bin, software-center, ubuntu-desktop -- how can i find out why it is trying to do this? i don't really understand (it doesn't seem to be package collision as far as I can tell?)
[04:26] <Arunscape> well the problem I have is Ubuntu won't recognize the Broadcam BCM4352 card in my computer.. I've tried some stuff which I will type after this message....
[04:27] <Beldar> adante, This a samba from the ubuntu repos and why use aptitude?
[04:27] <Beldar> !broadcom | Arunscape
[04:27] <Arunscape> I tried that page
[04:27] <Arunscape> it didn't help because my computer doesn't have a cdrom
[04:28] <Arunscape> and it is required to install the packages
[04:28] <Beldar> Arunscape, I wouls address issue found when following that link, it has worked for more that I can count.
[04:28] <Beldar> Arunscape, YOU have a usb port?
[04:28] <Arunscape> yes
[04:29] <Beldar> Arunscape, Than use a live on a usb
[04:29] <Beldar> same as a disc
[04:29] <Arunscape> it didn't detect it
[04:30] <Arunscape> the usb isn't mounted in media/cdrom
[04:30] <JoeyJoeJo> I just got 3 new 3TB hard drives and setup a software raid 5. The total size of the array is 4TB. Shouldn't it be closer to 5.4TB?
[04:31] <Arunscape> so it doesn't work.. I even tried virtualizing Ubuntu and making VMware think the ubuntu ISO is a DVD drive
[04:31] <HikaruBG> Beldar, there is an "Internal Error" window pop up every time I reboot and this is the only error I see in my syslog. So i thing that might be it. Why is that error there if everything works? Obviously something is not OK :)
[04:31] <Beldar> Arunscape, Does the computer work with Ethernet?
[04:32] <Arunscape> Yes
[04:32] <Beldar> HikaruBG, I would not just assume that is it, logs are full of errors on working setups.
[04:33] <Beldar> Arunscape, Than plug it in and folow the instructions on if you have internet access in the link.
[04:34] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Are you fully updated and what release is this?
[04:34] <Arunscape> One more problem, BCM4352 is nowhere on that page
[04:36] <Beldar> Arunscape, So you think at least not trying the link the bot has as it's the best solution is not worth it?
[04:36] <Arunscape> I'll try it
[04:36] <Arunscape> I have to go, bye and thanks
[04:36] <zCoder> Hi
[04:37] <zCoder> I have installed ubuntu server then i was messing around and install ubuntu desktop and now i have uninstalled it yet for some reason im still in ubuntu GUI with unity and all the stuff
[04:37] <zCoder> how is that possible?
[04:37] <zCoder> why does it still exist?
[04:38] <__machine> im getting an SSL certificate verify failed error in a python app that is trying to connect to a 3rd party server over https… on an ubuntu 10.04 machine… do i just need to update the root certificates? does apt-get upgrade do that automatically, or do i have to specifically source and install the correct new root certificates?
[04:39] <Beldar> zCoder, The desktop is a meta package, did you purge it at the least?
[04:39] <zCoder> i used tasksel
[04:39] <zCoder> unchecked it
[04:40] <zCoder> but i am still logged in and able to use the desktop
[04:41] <Beldar> zCoder, tasksel from the desktop to remove? Have you rebooted?
[04:41] <zCoder> i will reboot if that is what it takes but if it was succesfully removed  how can i possibly still be using it?
[04:41] <zCoder> will it remove fully on reboot?
[04:43] <Beldar> zCoder, If your using it it is still being used removed or not, it's not a poof it is gone while using it, what did you expect? besides that it is a meta package with tons of packages.
[04:43] <zCoder> ok after reboot how can i try to trigger it to make sure its gone?
[04:44] <Beldar> zCoder, I would from the cli run sudo apt-get autoremove hopefully all the packages are ready to go. Your removal to start with was not exactly correct.
[04:46] <zCoder> ok did that
[04:46] <zCoder> it removed somre more junk
[04:46] <Beldar> zCoder, When I add a desktop I save the install list in case a removal is needed.
[04:46] <zCoder> Im a noob :P
[04:47] <zCoder> Anyway looks clean now.
[04:47] <zCoder> Thanks for your help
[04:47] <Beldar> no prob
[04:51] <jackhum> My ubuntu 14.04 is unable to connect to my college 802.11 secured network.
[04:51] <jackhum> it connects out of box when i use Windows 8.1 , but i am having trouble connecting it with 14.04
[04:57] <NewGuy> hey
[04:57] <NewGuy> line 42: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: No such file or directory
[04:57] <NewGuy> i tried setting the JAVA_HOME path but that failed. can anyoone point me in the right direction
[04:58] <NewGuy> i think maybe i installed java wrong, if i try java --version i get Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[05:00] <Beldar> NewGuy, try java -version
[05:00] <ParaDelirium> mod
[05:00] <NewGuy> Beldar: i get the error Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[05:00] <ParaDelirium> hey
[05:00] <ParaDelirium> where are u from?
[05:01] <Beldar> NewGuy, Notice the difference in my command and yours
[05:01] <cfhowlett> ParaDelirium, this isn't a social channel.  ask your tech support questions
[05:01] <Beldar> !ot | ParaDelirium
[05:01] <NewGuy> Beldar: i installed the sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[05:02] <Beldar> NewGuy, Can you run the correct command?
[05:03] <NewGuy> Beldar: i understand now. i will pay more attention next time
[05:03] <Beldar> ;)
[05:03] <xingxing> This channel is too crowded
[05:03] <NewGuy> Beldar: the command works fine: OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.13.3) (6b31-1.13.3-1ubuntu1~<IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !cn | xingxing,
[05:03] <Beldar> NewGuy, cool beyond that I'm not sure your issue.
[05:03] <NewGuy> Beldar: thanks
[05:04]  * Beldar shoulder bumps xingxing
[05:04] <NewGuy> can anyone else help with this error. /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: No such file or directory
[05:06] <Beldar> NewGuy, Can you give the context of that error?
[05:06] <NewGuy> Beldar: i am trying to run a program, webcamstudio
[05:06] <vegombrei> hi, i recently downloaded ubuntu and burnt the image on a dvd. trying to install it on my vaio laptop and when i boot it just shows a blank sceen and doesnt seem to boot from dvd, ive done this many times i cant think of whats gone wrong
[05:06] <Beldar> NewGuy, Link?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, try it from USB
[05:07] <Beldar> vegombrei, Have you sum checked the iso or disc?
[05:07] <vegombrei> cfhowlett does it make a difference?
[05:07] <NewGuy> Beldar: https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/
[05:07] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, "should not" but ---
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | vegombrei, as beldar suggested: check the ISO and the disk
[05:08] <NewGuy> Beldar: this is the versioon i am trying to run its a deb file https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/detail?name=webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb&can=2&q=
[05:08] <vegombrei> cfhowlett hmm brb checking
[05:09] <icewalker> hi, i am currently running v14.04, is safe or recommend to run dist-upgrade?
[05:09] <Beldar> NewGuy, Well 3rd party stuff, not even supported anymore, are you sure this is the best path, technically not supported here is all,.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> icewalker, latest version is 14.04.1 - no reason not to upgrade
[05:10] <Beldar> icewalker, yes safe is just a in release call.
[05:11] <NewGuy> Beldar: ok maybe i will try something else. thanks anyway
[05:12] <icewalker> i did spend a lot added packages with add-apt-repository (maybe 3rd party stuffs), don't things to start breaking or malfunction by doing a dist-upgrade if i don't need to
[05:13] <Beldar> icewalker, NO.
[05:13] <Beldar> icewalker, Don't do any partial upgrades is all.
[05:13] <icewalker> dist-upgrade will take to 14.10, isn't that still a beta?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> icewalker,  dist-upgrade WILL NOT go to 14.10
[05:14] <icewalker> oh
[05:14] <Beldar> that is Doh. ;)
[05:14] <vegombrei> cfhowlett: md5sum is ok
[05:14] <icewalker> ok, will run a dist-upgrade than. thanks
[05:15] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, on ISO and DVD?  then something else is happening.  try USB
[05:15] <vegombrei> dvd bro
[05:15] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, so you didn't check the ISO?  errrrrrrrrrrrr ....
[05:16] <Beldar> vegombrei, For the record I did once have a good md5sum and still could not get it working, a new download worked.
[05:16] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, downloaded the image and made the bootable dvd,
[05:16] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, did - you - verify - the - downloaded - ISO?
[05:17] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, i really didnt know i needed to
[05:18] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, ill do it now, how dows one verify it?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | vegombrei, well, gee, it's only been suggested to you 4 times.  Bad downloads happen.  Read the link
[05:18] <icewalker> n
[05:19] <icewalker> oops!
[05:22] <akurilin> hey folks: is there a way to set the default volume of bluetooth devices if you're using ubuntu speakers for other devices connecting to it?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, ???
[05:24] <tac_> Can someone help me figure out how I might do this:
[05:25] <tac_> I have a laptop. When I'm on wifi, I'd like to use DHCP to get my IP address. Wired, though, I'd like to pick a static IP on the LAN.
[05:25] <tac_> is that kind of thing possible?
[05:26] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, thc error sorry bro.
[05:27] <sammy007> Is it harmful for system to use ~2K DROP iptables rules?
[05:28] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, so i checked the md5sum compared it and it says its different .. does that mean i gotta download ubuntu image again?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, the ISO had an error?  Happens.  Suggest you torrent the ISO for added hash sum checking during download.  Then make a new USB/DVD
[05:28] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, I NEVER download images --- 2 gigs is way too many chances for it to go wrong.  torrent is more paranoid about verifying those bits
[05:28] <vegombrei> cfhowlett ah i didnt think it had a torrent i downloaded it from the website thinking it would be latest and most secure
[05:29] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, all images from ubuntu have torrent options
[05:29] <Tex_Nick> tac_: short answer yes ... in "Network Connections" you can edit both wired & wireless connections
[05:29] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, i didnt think of that, hey thanks ill download the file from vuze and try again
[05:29] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, wait, what?  vuze?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> !info vuze
[05:30] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, got it.  go for it!
[05:34] <hateball> tac_: You can even set up multiple profiles for different interfaces, so you can easily switch between dhcp/static for LAN as well
[05:34] <tac_> oh, that's nice
[05:42] <daskdt> test
[05:42] <daskdt> anyone in here on empathy
[05:44] <__machine> why when i run openssl s_client -connect store.syrinscape.com:443 on a ubuntu box (tried a few) it says Verify code return: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate) but when i run the same on an OSX box it says Verify return code: 0 (ok) … ?
[05:45] <__machine> if I add -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/GeoTrust_Global_CA.pem to linux then i also get Verify return code: 0 (ok)
[05:46] <Tex_Nick> daskdt: If you have an empathy specific question ... post it providing as much detail as you can ... ie: I want it to do this, I've tried it this way ... results are ...
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !details | daskdt,
[05:47] <daskdt> is there a way to hide icons in irc channels and ignore join/part notifications
[05:47] <cfhowlett> daskdt, depends on your IRC client
[05:47] <daskdt> empathy
[05:47] <cfhowlett> daskdt, I have no empathy - never thought I'd say that.
[05:48] <daskdt> :) It's fine, I might just use a different one
[05:48] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: LOL
[05:52] <Sachiru> Query: Ubuntu 14.04 is currently on what kernel version?
[05:52] <_jack_> 3.13 iirc
[05:54] <Sachiru> How about 14.10?
[05:55] <alfonso82_> off-topic: what's a good book to learn the theoretical stuff about programming
[05:55] <somsip> !ot | alfonso82_, :-)
[05:57] <Tex_Nick> Sachiru: Crystal Ball forecasting is not implemented here ;)
[05:57] <Sachiru> Sorry
[05:57] <Sachiru> Thought that 14.10 was already out
[05:57] <Sachiru> Just saw that it's in alpha
[05:57] <Sachiru> Hmm, latest stable kernel is 3.16, just wondering how to get that onto my system
[05:57] <Sachiru> Without breaking it, of course.
[05:59] <daskdt> testing
[06:01] <Tex_Nick> daskdt: the channel #test is provided for testing
[06:03] <daskdt> Thanks Tex_Nick
[06:03] <Tex_Nick> np :)
[06:06] <netlar> Anyone have success setting up bluetooth speakers on 14.04?
[06:07] <netlar> I have a fresh install, but when I try to pair up the speakers, the speakers are not found by Ubuntu
[06:08] <netlar> I know it is not the speakers, I have paired them up wiht my Mac no problem
[06:10] <netlar> Do I need to install a certain package for bluetooth?
[06:11] <daskdt> Anyone know  of a program like Popcorn Time but for books?
[06:13] <netlar> Do I need Blueman installed?
[06:29] <jerry> hello hello
[06:35] <daskdt> hi Jerry
[06:35] <netlar> daskdt: Hi
[06:36] <joules> hi, anyone experienced with live-boot? I need it to custom mount (aufs) via fstab, however it's doing it too early. I need to set "mount -a" last. Any tips?
[06:36] <marjinal1st> How can I extact values from terminals grepped output? I'm listing my git tags, it's showing like "blabla bla (tag: 1.1.0)", I need to extract tag info with grep. How can I do it?
[06:37] <joules> marjinal1st: extract to what?
[06:37] <marjinal1st> joules: on console or file doesn't matter, I need the list.
[06:37] <joules> VAR=$(<somecommand> | grep -i <somevalue>)
[06:38] <joules> oh you need awk or maybe you can get away with cut
[06:38] <joules> depends on what you want to extract exactly.
[06:40] <mike_o> If I've created a ppa and made some changes to the files that I pushed, what is the series of commands to commit the change I've made, then push them to the ppa? Does debuild -i -I -S make those changes or do I need to add something else
[06:41] <frib> how can i fix kernel panic on returning from hibernate?
[06:41] <ikonia> mike_o: you've made the changes in the source deb, so when you rebuild the package in the PPA, it will change them
[06:41] <joules> frib: fix? It's a panic, it's done.
[06:42] <frib> joules, prevent it from happening
[06:42] <frib> i.e. next time i try to hibernate
[06:43] <joules> frib: likely a compatability issue.
[06:43] <frib> joules, any way to confirm that?
[06:43] <mike_o> ikonia: Thanks :)
[06:43] <joules> frib: hibernate is touch an go, works with *most* devices.
[06:43] <cccp3> Hello
[06:43] <joules> Unless you've have gone and done something stupid.
[06:44] <cccp3> Turns out, nobody is awake on #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <joules> Which is always a possibility.
[06:44] <ikonia> cccp3: we don't need to hear about it in #ubuntu
[06:44] <frib> joules, so you're saying there is no way to know if my device is compatible?
[06:45] <joules> damn my psychic powers aren't working today.
[06:45] <frib> no but your gratuitous sarcasm is in full force
[06:46] <frib> i'm a human being asking politely for help
[06:46] <frib> now i'm done
[06:46] <joules> good bye.
[06:47] <ikonia> frib: hang on
[06:47] <ikonia> joules: tone it down please
[06:47] <JKDL> hello yall i have a question is there any way to install ubuntu using wireless via the installation?
[06:48] <ikonia> frib: suspend / hibernate have come a long way from where they where, however there are still certain devices/situations that can cause problems
[06:48] <ikonia> frib: a common problem is how closed source kernel modules deal with suspect, nvdia/ati/broadcom used to be a common problem, now nvidia/ati are really the regular problems
[06:48] <ikonia> frib: are you using nvidia or ati modules ?
[06:49] <frib> ikonia, this is a new pc so i'm not sure what the video card is, i didn't see anything ati or nvidia in lspci
[06:50] <ikonia> frib: is it a pc or laptop
[06:50] <frib> laptop
[06:50] <ikonia> frib: so there is a possibility it's using an optimus video card which is why it's not showing up
[06:50] <ikonia> frib: what's the make/model
[06:50] <frib> hp envy 15 j063cl
[06:51] <JKDL> any ideas?
[06:52] <frib> JKDL i'm pretty sure there is that option but you need to get the basic installer at least, i may be wrong though
[06:52] <ikonia> frib: looks like it's all intel
[06:52] <frib> JKDL, your wifi card would have to be compatible out of the box too
[06:52] <JKDL> i'll be using atheros drivers,
[06:52] <frib> ikonia, so that's technically good right?
[06:52] <ikonia> frib: yeah,
[06:53] <ikonia> frib: check the network card model please, as that's not listed on the website
[06:53] <frib> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
[06:53] <frib> and Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controlle
[06:53] <ikonia> frib: ok, so broadcom is a possible cause/problem too as I said earlier, just not as often these days
[06:54] <ikonia> frib: disable that device (the wireless one) blacklist the kernel module and test it
[06:54] <frib> ok how do i find out which kernel module?
[06:55] <ikonia> frib: it's called "bcm"
[06:55] <frib> that's not in lsmod
[06:55] <ikonia> frib: then you'll need to check the docs for that card
[06:56] <ikonia> to see what the module is currently called
[06:56] <ikonia> bcm$something
[06:56] <ikonia> is the norm
[06:58] <frib> ikonia, lspci -v says wl is the kernel driver in use for the wifi card
[06:58] <frib> but http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 also says that BCM4352 is not supported
[06:58] <frib> which i don't really get since the card is working
[06:58] <ikonia> frib: I don't know the wl module - I'm not aware of it's status
[06:59] <ikonia> frib: it could be the way ndis works these days ?
[06:59] <ikonia> frib: but if it's unsupported I'd say you have a starting point
[07:00] <frib> how can i get the vendor:product things just to be sure its the same card
[07:00] <ikonia> frib: hwinfo
[07:00] <Ben64> https://wiki.debian.org/wl
[07:00] <ikonia> thanks Ben64
[07:01] <Ben64> no problem, spoiler - it's proprietary
[07:01] <frib> can't seem to get hwinfo
[07:02] <frib> hwinfo doesn't appear to exist anymore after 13
[07:03] <jtruent> I'm trying to install grub but it keeps giving me a /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
[07:03] <jtruent> errpr
[07:03] <jtruent> s/p/o
[07:03] <frib> how can I blacklist a kernel module?
[07:03] <jtruent> any ideas
[07:03] <ikonia> jtruent: grub should already be installed
[07:03] <frib> ill just try it with wl and see if hibernate works
[07:03] <ikonia> jtruent: why are you installing it ?
[07:03] <ikonia> frib: should still be in the repos
[07:03] <ikonia> frib: you may need to install it
[07:04] <frib> ikonia, package hwinfo doesn't exist
[07:04] <jtruent> ikonia: installation failed in the install
[07:04] <ikonia> jtruent: why ?
[07:05] <ikonia> frib: the hal dependency appears to have forced it's removal
[07:05] <jtruent> good question
[07:05] <ikonia> wasn't aware of that sorry
[07:05] <smittix> Has anyone experienced any problems installing the latest nvidia drivers and the system not booting after?
[07:05] <frib> ikonia, no problem
[07:05] <frib> i'm going to blacklist wl and see what happens
[07:05] <frib> do i need to unload the module before hibernating?
[07:05] <ikonia> frib: worth a test
[07:05] <ikonia> frib: if it's blacklisted it won't get loaded
[07:06] <frib> ok /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist -> blacklist wl, right?
[07:06] <ikonia> that should do it
[07:06] <frib> ok brb
[07:08] <frib> now when i click hibernate it just brings me to lock screen
[07:09] <ikonia> frib: looks like you've found your problem though
[07:09] <frib> seem like a different problem i though
[07:09] <ikonia> yes
[07:10] <ikonia> but you now have a less serious one to work through
[07:10] <frib> oh goodie
[07:10] <frib> why would it do this now all of a sudden i haven't changed anything since i tried to hibernate last time
[07:10] <ikonia> come on ??? "why would it do this" ????
[07:10] <ikonia> so far you've given no information and done no investigation
[07:10] <Tex_Nick> process of elimination can be a long journey ;)
[07:11] <ikonia> you came in with a kernel panic - you've resolved that
[07:11] <ikonia> you have to do a little work to resolve issues
[07:11] <frib> i didn't resolve the kernel panic
[07:11] <frib> i didn't even hibernate
[07:11] <ikonia> is it still panicing ?
[07:11] <frib> no because i couldnt get to that point
[07:11] <ikonia> ok
[07:11] <ikonia> so look at what the hibernate button is calling and run it manually
[07:12] <ikonia> or maually run hibernate/suspend
[07:12] <frib> pm-hibernate like before?
[07:12] <ikonia> or try re-enabling the module and seeing if it does hibernate
[07:12] <ikonia> see if the problem is tied to the change you've made or not
[07:12] <frib> i thought blacklist would only effect after reboot
[07:12] <frib> i'll try it anyway though
[07:12] <ikonia> have you not rebooted ?
[07:13] <phasip> Have I understood it correct, is nvidia-current the legacy driver and nvidia-340 the newest?
[07:13] <frib> no that's what i'm saying i didn't hibernate when i clicked hibernate it just went to lock screen
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: why are you trying to hibernate if you've not reboote
[07:13] <cccp3> !register
[07:13] <ikonia> rebooteed
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: I told you to black list it and check
[07:13] <frib> i didn't know i needed to reboot
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: why are you doing something different ?
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: you did
[07:13] <ikonia> you just told me you did
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: and I told you "if you black list it, it stops it from loading"
[07:14] <ikonia> it only loads at boot time
[07:14] <frib> after hibernate i thought
[07:14] <frib> so, reboot, then hibernate ?
[07:14] <ikonia> yes
[07:14] <frib> ok
[07:15] <Sven_vB> hi, trying to upgrade, is there anything i can do about those? / W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chrysn/openscad/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found / W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chrysn/openscad/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:16] <frib> ok the blacklist didn't seem to work because wl is loaded
[07:16] <ikonia> Sven_vB: you should have removed all the PPA's and PPA software before upgrading
[07:16] <ikonia> frib: do you have a hardware kill switch for the wireless
[07:16] <frib> i think so but i don't think it works
[07:16] <frib> ill try it
[07:16] <Sven_vB> ikonia, ok, thanks
[07:17] <frib> yea it worked
[07:17] <frib> so just kill it with that and reboot/hibernate?
[07:18] <ikonia> frib: test yes
[07:24] <frib> ikonia, i tried to disable the wifi with the keyboard button but i noticed that it was getting switched back on/off before/during the hibernate but something interesting happened when i resumed, it said that my graphics could not be detected and asked me if i wanted to see the xserver log and startup errors etc.
[07:25] <frib> the startup errors didn't show anything but the xserver log did but i couldn't save it because the boot was unsuccessful .. maybe they're in /var/log/Xorg* ?
[07:25] <ikonia> the boot was unsucessful ?
[07:26] <frib> like it sent me to a terminal
[07:26] <ikonia> I'd concentrate on why your wireless card is not blacklisted properly
[07:26] <ikonia> then move forward from there
[07:27] <frib> do i need to run sudo update-initramfs -u ?
[07:28] <greek> Heya. I use Ubuntu 12.04 with a standard GNOME terminal, and I have configured my terminal profile to use a background image. I'd like to automatically change this image once a day based on a file in a specified folder. How can I go about doing this? Thanks.
[07:28] <ikonia> frib: don't see why
[07:28] <ikonia> greek: point at a symlink and change the symlink target via a script
[07:29] <cccp3> yep
[07:29] <frib> ikonia, a web page says i should blacklist all the modules that depend on wl in order to blacklist it properly does that sound right?
[07:29] <cccp3> just make a new symlink everyday
[07:30] <cccp3> frib: might be
[07:30] <ikonia> frib: I thought that was a none issue as if modules depended on it, it would fail as it was blacklisted
[07:30] <frib> got it from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92826/module-loaded-even-though-its-blacklisted
[07:30] <ikonia> frib: check the dependencies with modinfo
[07:31] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8051622/
[07:31] <frib> cfg80211 and lib80211
[07:32] <ikonia> frib: yeah, blacklist those, that's ok
[07:32] <frib> ok rebooting
[07:36] <frib> they all loaded despite being blacklisted
[07:36] <ikonia> so something must need them as a dependency and is calling them
[07:36] <ikonia> walk the kernel tree
[07:36] <ikonia> and see what depends on them
[07:36] <frib> ikonia, shouldn't any dependencies show up in lsmod | grep wl ?
[07:37] <ikonia> frib: no, that's what wl needs as dependency
[07:37] <ikonia> frib: if something needs wl as a dependecy it will call it
[07:37] <ikonia> although I have to admit, I thought that behaviour had stopped
[07:37] <sweet> iam runing ubuntu12.04 but when iam trying to skype it doesnt work definitly iam sure it is correct my  username and password is there any help ?
[07:38] <frib> i checked cfg80211  and lib802111 only the latter needs lib80211_crypt_tkip and i already blacklisted that
[07:38] <frib> and that one doesn't depend on anything else
[07:38] <ikonia> frib: what actually needs wl though
[07:38] <frib> ok sorry i'm not sure how to check that
[07:39] <ikonia> frib: check the modules that are loaded and see if any of them list wl as their dependencies
[07:39] <frib> shouldn't that show up in lsmod | grep wl ?
[07:39] <ikonia> no
[07:39] <ikonia> nothing more
[07:39] <ikonia> lsmod just lists modules
[07:39] <frib> ikonia, it also lists dependencies if i'm not mistaken
[07:39] <ikonia> oh, I see what you mean
[07:40] <ikonia> sorry, I thought you where saying as in the tree
[07:40] <frib> np
[07:40] <somsip> !info zabbix-agent
[07:40] <somsip> !info zabbix-server-mysql
[07:40] <ikonia> frib: any easy cheat for a simple test, is to (be careful) move the module for a test
[07:41] <ikonia> frib: so it's not in the correct place when it's tries to be loaded
[07:41] <sweet> iam runing ubuntu12.04 but when iam trying to login  skype it doesnt work definitly iam sure it is correct my  username and password is there any help ?
[07:42] <frib> ikonia, would it hurt to just ry update initramfs?
[07:42] <ikonia> frib: not really, but I don't see why you would as that's preboot
[07:44] <Capprentice> How can I create a squid cache to cache youtube videos on Ubuntu server? I need a overview...
[07:45] <ikonia> Capprentice: squid is cached on vering
[07:45] <ikonia> viewing
[07:45] <ikonia> vewiing
[07:47] <pear_> s
[07:47] <Capprentice> Here is what I have.. I have a Central Server, through which all other computers connect to the Internet. What I want here is to Cache most of the stuffs the users watch or download. How do I do that with Squid?
[07:48] <ikonia> Capprentice: squid will build up a cache as it's used
[07:48] <Capprentice> Should I follow this - http://aacable.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/youtube-caching-with-squid-nginx/ Will you kindly check if this is okay to follow? - ikonia
[07:49] <Capprentice> I mean not outdated.
[07:49] <ikonia> Capprentice: looks worthless
[07:49] <ikonia> it's for squid 2
[07:50] <ikonia> Capprentice: there is also a pointless nginx install, I see no reason why that is installed
[07:50] <Capprentice> Yes...now the squid version I have here is 3.3. 12!
[07:52] <frib> where can i find the modules directory in ubuntu 14?
[07:52] <ikonia> frib: /lib/modules/$kernel
[07:53] <neps> hi
[07:53] <neps> all
[07:54] <frib> find ./ -iname 'wl' returns nothing in that directory :\
[07:54] <neps> What is the difference between running Ubuntu / linux on VM and without VM
[07:55] <neps> more detailed pls
[07:55] <ikonia> frib: modules are called "ko"
[07:55] <ikonia> neps: the hardware
[07:55] <ikonia> thats it
[07:55] <frib> ikonia, so should i look for wl.ko or something ?
[07:55] <ikonia> frib: when you did the modinfo it gave you the full path to the module
[07:55] <frib> oh ok
[07:56] <frib> so ill just temporarily 'misplace' that file
[07:56] <neps> where can i find explanation of kernel code line by line
[07:56] <neps> docs created by doc generator sucks
[07:56] <ikonia> neps: you can't
[07:57] <Symian> neps: I get the feeling you don't realize just how complicated the Linux kernel is. You probably need 20+ years of targetted experience to grok it.
[07:58] <neps> ok, but it would be great if people can learn lots programming principles from actual code
[07:59] <neps> if it documented line by line
[07:59] <ikonia> that's not really a discussion for this channel
[08:00] <Symian> neps: you can do that fine with numerous open source projects. But trying to get a line-by-line explanation + get educated off the Linux Kernel is like trying to learn Shakespeare after grade 2 English.
[08:00] <frib> ikonia, after moving wl.ko the hibernate worked fine
[08:00] <ikonia> frib: how interesting,
[08:00] <frib> maybe it was just a one time thing i don't know
[08:01] <ikonia> frib: test to confirm
[08:01] <frib> but i still don't get why that module works with my bcm4352 its not supposed to according to the docs
[08:01] <ikonia> frib: docs say it does
[08:02] <frib> i guess i was looking at the wrong docs then
[08:02] <neps> Ok, but if you see programmers learn to code only from other's code. let me clarify that: Programmers write programs, other programmers sees the program, get the extracts from it and it comes for publishing as texts / docs
[08:03] <neps> do you agree
[08:03] <ikonia> neps: that is not for this channel
[08:03] <ikonia> neps: this channel is for ubuntu support
[08:03] <frib> ikonia, i see, it was b43 that doesn't support it and wl is the alternative
[08:03] <Symian> neps: I don't see how this relates to Ubuntu support either..
[08:03] <frib> ikonia, going to test again
[08:03] <ikonia> frib: correct
[08:05] <sveinse> What is the rules for selecting compilers in Ubuntu? On trusty, I have installed both gcc-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf *and* gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf. When I run "arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc --version" I get 4.7.3, even though the binary is pointing to the 4.8 executable
[08:06] <ikonia> sveinse: follow all symlinks
[08:06] <saruman> hello
[08:06] <saruman> I'm quite new with ubuntu server, I just installed the 14.04 version
[08:07] <Guest56030> I'm trying to set a static IP but in the interfaces file I just have P3P1 and not ETH0
[08:08] <Guest56030> does anyone know how to configure it?
[08:08] <helmut_> hi
[08:08] <Guest56030> Can I set static IP on P3P1 or I have to change to ETH0
[08:09] <ikonia> Guest56030: exactly the same to p3p1
[08:09] <ikonia> Guest56030: p3p1 eth0 are just names
[08:09] <ikonia> Guest56030: if your device is called p3p1 use that name
[08:09] <Guest56030> ohh, ok. Thanks!
[08:09] <Guest56030> I'll give it a try right now!
[08:09] <Guest56030> Thank you, Ikonia!
[08:10] <sveinse> ikonia: I do. I suppose the general symlink gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf is an alternative. Where I can I configure such things?
[08:10] <ikonia> sveinse: /etc/alternatives
[08:10] <frib> ikonia, it worked again.  so im assuming that was the problem
[08:10] <elmaestro> why is my printer status reading paused?
[08:10] <frib> ikonia, is there a way to make it permanent?
[08:10] <ikonia> frib: yeah, nvidia/ati/broadcom are normally the problem, although broadcom less so
[08:11] <frib> is there anything we can do ?
[08:11] <ikonia> frib: closed source module......
[08:12] <sveinse> ikonia, and when the compiler is not in /etc/alternatives, then I can assume that the choice of using 4.8 as standard compiler is fixed by Ubuntu, and that I /have/ to postfix with gcc-4.7?
[08:12] <frib> so i could change wifi card
[08:13] <ikonia> sveinse: I don't think you can assume that
[08:13] <ikonia> frib: if you can, that would be a great fix
[08:13] <frib> i believe i have this: 14e4:4322
[08:13] <frib>
[08:13] <frib> not tested
[08:13] <frib>
[08:13] <frib> BCM4322	b/g/n	N (r4)
[08:14] <frib> sorry :\
[08:14] <unopaste> frib you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:15] <sveinse> ikonia: This is a little unfortunate you see. A lot of tools for cross compiling, including the kernel, uses a compiler setup similar to GCC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc  . When I have to use *-gcc-4.7 as command it is inherently difficult to specify without having to change the overall compiler config on the server
[08:15] <ikonia> frib: no problem, accidents happen
[08:16] <frib> the only thing.. my other wifi card still uses broadcom but i  think a different driver, not wl
[08:16] <ikonia> sveinse: apologgies I don't see the problem
[08:16] <sveinse> ikonia: g++-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf is BROKEN for cross compiling Qt 4.8. It dies with an internal error, so I have to use gcc 4.7
[08:16] <ikonia> sveinse: yes, I understand what you want to use
[08:16] <ikonia> sveinse: I don't understand what's stopping you
[08:19] <sveinse> How to specify gcc-4.7 when the internal source of the SW I'm about to compile uses GCC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc. I can set CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf, but not specify 4.7 because Ubuntu unfortunately uses the compiler version as postfix, and not in-fix in way where I could use it in the CROSS_COMPILE string :(
[08:20] <ikonia> sveinse: the version should be 4-7 so surly that should work ?
[08:21] <sveinse> ikonia: sorry, come again?
[08:21] <ikonia> sveinse: if it uses the version as a prefix, if the version is 4.7 then it would prefix 4.7 so you should be "ok" ?
[08:21] <ikonia> unless I'm not fully understanding the problem you are describing
[08:24] <sveinse> ikonia: Yes. If Ubuntu were to use "arm-linux-gnueabi-4.7-gcc" everything would be much easier, so my opinion was that they chose to postfix the version number after gcc was a bad one. Of course it is easy to add a symlink in /usr/local/bin to whatever you want, but IMHO not elegant
[08:29] <CodeGosu> is there in ubuntu any comand, 'sudo i_migratted_instalation_to_other_pc_plz_reinstall_any_drivers_and_dont_ask_questions_ktnx" ?
[08:31] <ikonia> CodeGosu: you don't need to do that
[08:31] <ikonia> CodeGosu: there is no need to "reinstall" drivers
[08:31] <ikonia> CodeGosu: the only ones which may need to change are propritary ones specific to hardware in the source machine/target machine
[08:35] <CodeGosu> i migrated ubuntu from pc with nvidia cpu to usb drive, booting from other pc that runs on integrated results to splash screen that goes no where, it stops on 'resume libgcrypt'. in recovery mode ( that strangly boots to long ) there is 'initctl event failed'. i can  get to root promt but im not sure what to do there
[08:35] <ikonia> crypt ?
[08:35] <pikaren> is there any software that can limit the time i spend on non-productive website each day
[08:35] <ikonia> thats encypted disks
[08:35] <ikonia> that's not going to work
[08:35] <ikonia> pikaren: self control
[08:35] <CodeGosu> disks arent encrypted
[08:36] <cwt137> Hello. I just did the latest updates and now my scrollwheel goes 1.5 screens down the page instead of 1
[08:36] <pikaren> ikonia: seems it hasn't been updated for a couple years or so
[08:36] <cynicallemon> ikonia: +1 for common sense
[08:36] <maximoto> when i'm connecting a mtp device to linux (ubuntu), where can i find it mounted in my folders? i don't find it in /mnt nor /mount
[08:36] <cwt137> how do I adjust the scrollwheel?
[08:36] <ikonia> maximoto: IF it mounts, it will be in /media/$something
[08:37] <eeee> cwt137: xinput --list --short
[08:37] <maximoto> ikonia: i can navigate it on dolphin, but it's not in /media either
[08:37] <ikonia> maximoto:  where does the path show in dolphin ?
[08:38] <maximoto> mtp:/XT1039/Internal storage/
[08:38] <ikonia> maximoto: then it's not mounting it
[08:38] <frib> ikonia, i changed the wifi card and then tried to hibernate.. the first time i resumed to grub and session was not saved.  second time session was saved but then i "teleported" from desktop to grub somehow, then i tried a 3rd time and resumed to grub
[08:38] <maximoto> ikonia: it's not mounting it even though i can still use it normally?
[08:38] <ikonia> frib: changed the wifi card in a laptop ?
[08:38] <frib> ikonia, yea
[08:38] <cwt137> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8051992/
[08:38] <ikonia> maximoto: correct
[08:39] <ikonia> frib: what did you change it to ?
[08:39] <frib> bcm4322 broadcom-sta
[08:39] <frib> previously it was wl
[08:39] <ikonia> that's ANOTHER broadcom
[08:39] <cwt137> one tick of the scrollwheel goes too far down the page
[08:39] <frib> i know but it's all I have
[08:39] <frib> and given that it uses a different driver ithought maybe ...
[08:39] <ikonia> yes, but as I said broadcom is the problem
[08:39] <ikonia> nah
[08:40] <frib> is there a wifi card that is linux/ubuntu compatible ??
[08:40] <frib> like a good cheap one
[08:40] <ikonia> intel
[08:41] <sh4tr> how are intel's video drives working with linux, good/bad? hasswel's igpu?
[08:41] <frib> stupid broadcom
[08:41] <maximoto> thanks
[08:41] <ikonia> sh4tr: just fine
[08:42] <eeee> cwt137: xinput --list-props 15
[08:42] <eeee> or xinput --list-props "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"
[08:43] <frib> ikonia, do you know the technical name for these laptop wifi cards are they pcmcia?
[08:43] <ikonia> frib: depends on the laptop and the interface
[08:43] <frib> its a little square chip with black and white wires that snap on to them
[08:44] <ubuntuser13> hello! everyone
[08:44] <frib> i think its mini pcie
[08:44] <cwt137> eeee: sorry, I forgot to say im using a microsoft wireless mouse. it is id# 10 or 11
[08:45] <bartmon> Hey. I need to install a 32-bit verison of the OpenGL library mesa on my 64-bit ubuntu. I just can't find the package names, can someone assist?
[08:45] <eeee> cwt137: try one, but i'm not sure it'll work since it's an external mouse
[08:46] <mjt> hello.  Where on internet I can see if a given package is available on (current) ubuntu main or ubuntu universe?
[08:46] <mjt> (i'm not a ubuntu user)
[08:46] <DJones> mjt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:46] <mjt> heh. Quite similar to debian. Thanks!
[08:47] <ubuntuser13> no unity , no launcher only background and cursor in admin session? i don't know how to solve this.
[08:47] <cwt137> eee: id=10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052057/
[08:47] <eeee> ubuntuser13: maybe a crashed session file?
[08:48] <frib> ikonia, would this work? Intel 6235AN.HMWWB Centrino Advanced-N 6235
[08:48] <ubuntuser13> eeee: i did fresh ubuntu install three times . but after updates it occurs again.
[08:48] <cwt137> eee: id=11 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052065/
[08:48] <ikonia> frib: most intels are %100 fine
[08:48] <ikonia> frib: the ones that are not are %99 fine
[08:48] <Ben64> ubuntuser13: "admin session" ? what are you trying to do
[08:48] <cwt137> eeee: id=11 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052065/
[08:48] <ikonia> frib: I'd say you would be fine
[08:49] <frib> ikonia, can i be sure it will be compatible with my hp laptop?
[08:49] <ikonia> frib: ask hp
[08:49] <ubuntuser13> Ben64: nothing, it means my normal session, in guest session everything working fine.
[08:50] <eeee> cwt137: on my touchpad there's a property called Scrolling distance, which controls the scrolling
[08:51] <cwt137> eeee: yeah. whatever the default was, was increased by a lot in the updates I did yesterday
[08:52] <cwt137> eeee: I wonder where the default for all pointing devices is
[08:52] <daGrevis> hi! any help much appreciated. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239307
[08:53] <eeee> ubuntuser13: try ~./cache/.../ and rename the session file
[08:54] <eeee> * ~/.cache/....
[08:54] <sveinse> Has anyone had any success with getting Optimus (nvidia+intel gfx) with 14.04 (on Lenovo W530)?
[08:54] <eeee> cwt137: do you have the scrolling distance in id=15?
[08:55] <daGrevis> sveinse, sounds like something I have
[08:55] <cwt137> eeee: yes. it is -78
[08:55] <daGrevis> sveinse, is your shutdown working properly? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239307
[08:56] <ubuntuser13> eeee: i do a fresh install 2 hours ago, i want to know the reason behind this. according a launchpad page this might due to ati readon and lightdm bug.
[08:56] <sveinse> daGrevis: Yes, haven't noticed any problems with shutdown
[08:56] <paulus68> I have upgraded to the  latest kernel however uname -r is still showing that I use the 3.13.0-29-generic instead of the 3.13.0-34-generic how do I modify this so that the latest version is used
[08:57] <eeee> cwt137: it seems that external mice don't have this property, but you can try messing with the mouse wheel inertia and other mouse wheel properties, dont know if it would work though
[08:57] <DJones> sveinse: I've got a Lenovo Y510p and used nvidia-prime rather than optimus, for me, that worked out of the box
[08:57] <daGrevis> this is bad.
[08:58] <sveinse> DJones: I does for me as well, but it hogs the battery compared to using intel gfx and I'm a lot on the move. However intel gfx does not allow me to use multiple monitors :(
[08:58] <cwt137> eeee: weird. I haven't unplugged the mouse since the upgrade. After unplugging and plugging back in, the mouse started to work perfectly
[08:58] <cwt137> eeee: thanks for your help
[08:58] <eeee> great
[08:58] <eeee> np
[08:58] <Beldar> paulus68, What does sudo update-grub say, is this the only Linux install on the computer?
[09:00] <paulus68> Beldar http://pastebin.com/g8R4XwVH
[09:01] <Beldar> paulus68, You are using grub legacy did you know that?
[09:01] <paulus68> no I didn't know that
[09:02] <paulus68> is that a problem.
[09:02] <Beldar> paulus68, Has not been the stock install for a long time now, grub 2 updates the kernel installs automatically.
[09:03] <paulus68> how do I upgrade to the latest grub?
[09:04] <siru> hi ... having a problem with ubuntu 12.04 and dublicity sftp:// or scp:// does not work
[09:04] <CodeGosu> after long time with 'resume: libgcrypt' text i get could not stat resume device /dev/sdb4 press enter to continue, i migrated old image to new pc. how do i remove 'stat of resume deivce' from boot?
[09:04] <Beldar> paulus68, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[09:05] <siru> hmm
[09:05] <siru> never mind ...
[09:06] <urban_cohort> Hello, when I try to install automake (sudo apt-get install automake1.10), get an error abour opencl-dev. Here is what it says http://pastie.org/9475320
[09:06] <urban_cohort> and when I type sudo apt-get -f install, get same: http://pastie.org/9475321
[09:07] <paulus68> Beldar I have a seperate boot partition do I just select that option after clicking OK on the first screen of the install?
[09:09] <Beldar> paulus68, The blank configuring grub-pc?
[09:09] <rjsalts> urban_cohort: it has nothing to do with automake. You have a previous run installing opencl-devel which has left it unconfigured because it failed on postinst
[09:10] <daGrevis> is it safe for me to run rm -rf /var/log/* if i want to clear all logs?
[09:10] <Beldar> paulus68, do you mean the 3rd picture on the link?
[09:11] <paulus68> Beldar when you run sudo apt-get install grub-pc I get the first printscreen mentioned on the page you sent me, then after clicking OK I get this screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5kqpxdurok0dbh/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-15%2011%3A08%3A36.png
[09:11] <rjsalts> daGrevis: It'll break stuff, you might want to do find /var/log -type f -delete instead and then restart all of the daemons that had log files open ...
[09:11] <Beldar> paulus68, If sdc is the sdc is the choice it's mbr
[09:12] <Beldar> paulus68, If sdc is the drive I meant
[09:12] <daGrevis> rjsalts, ok, ty
[09:12] <rjsalts> daGrevis: i.e. there are directories that won't get recreated if you do rm -rf /var/log/*
[09:12] <paulus68> Beldar My guess is that I need to select the boot partition but I'm not sure
[09:12] <rjsalts> daGrevis: that find will only find regular files
[09:13] <Beldar> paulus68, No the mbr no partition numbers of the drive that is the first in the bios read as of now.
[09:13] <Beldar> paulus68, sdc
[09:14] <paulus68> Beldar the 120 SSD is the principle drive where ubuntu is installed on
[09:15] <Beldar> paulus68, sdc right? This is the one read first in the bios?
[09:15] <jhattara> is there a gui sftp program that could recursively compare contents of local and remote folder ?
[09:15] <paulus68> could be not sure have to reboot in order to check that out
[09:16] <urban_cohort> rjsalts, what do you suggest me to do? I googled it but couldn't find what I was looking for
[09:16] <Beldar> paulus68, Any other OS on the computer?
[09:16] <paulus68> no just ubuntu
[09:17] <rjsalts> urban_cohort: the script it is running is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/opencl-devel.postinst with some argument, depending on whether it's a new install or an upgrade
[09:17] <Beldar> paulus68, I will assume you are using the mbr of the HD ubuntu is on so choose sdc and if there is an issue on boot put it as first read in the bios.
[09:18] <rjsalts> urban_cohort: if it's a shell script you could try putting a set -x below #!/bin/sh and see what it's doing
[09:18] <paulus68> Beldar, OK will do
[09:18] <Beldar> paulus68, no raid on nothing right?
[09:18] <paulus68> no
[09:18] <Beldar> cool
[09:18] <vegombrei> hi i need help i think the ubuntu 14 i386 iso is broken i downloaded from the site also from torrent and md5sum says doesnt match .. does anyone have a good copy?
[09:18] <urban_cohort> Thank you, I'll try it
[09:18] <_1_Vampire2> hi
[09:19] <vegombrei> hi _1_Vampire2
[09:19] <_1_Vampire2> asl plz
[09:19] <paulus68> Beldar after install is there a way to know that I have grub2
[09:20] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, download it again until md5 matches
[09:20] <vegombrei> _1_Vampire2 LOLL
[09:20] <k1l_> _1_Vampire2: keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support please
[09:20] <vegombrei> ObrienDave from where?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> paulus68, by the top of the screen
[09:20] <paulus68> what should it say?
[09:20] <vegombrei> ObrienDave i thought torrent makes sure you get the entire file
[09:20] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, i suggest the orrent
[09:20] <vegombrei> thats how i got it
[09:21] <ObrienDave> from where?
[09:21] <vegombrei> kickass torrentz
[09:21] <Beldar> paulus68, Make sure you read the link fully, look at #5 and #6
[09:21] <antonio44> When I try to open a power point (.ppt) file I'm getting this window popping up http://www.anony.ws/image/Do3S  Anyone ever dealt with this before?
[09:22] <k1l_> vegombrei: use the official ubuntu files/torrents and not 3rd party ones.
[09:22] <k1l_> !torrents
[09:22] <ObrienDave> paulus68, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_grubversion1.png
[09:22] <k1l_> vegombrei: see the bots message
[09:22] <paulus68> thanks will reboot and report back if any issue
[09:22] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, get the torrent from: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[09:24] <Beldar> ObrienDave, Myself I would just purge legacy and install grub 2 but thought the link better.
[09:25] <ObrienDave> i agree Beldar
[09:25] <ObrienDave> a bit safer than purging grub
[09:26] <Beldar> ObrienDave, I have never used a boot partition, so I figured that was best, I have to crash if they have an issue would you check it out. I had them just load the mbr.
[09:26] <ObrienDave> yes, i saw that. be happy to assist :)
[09:27] <Beldar> cool thanks probably should of done the boot partition a s well
[09:28] <edition> why isn't GCC installed on Ubuntu by default?
[09:28] <paulus68> when the grub menu is displayed nothing is visible
[09:28] <edition> "gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory"
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> edition  to keep the iso small enough, some packages have been left out
[09:29] <edition> but no codecs?
[09:29] <paulus68> beldar just an empty screen and that's it
[09:29] <ObrienDave> paulus68, did it show grub 1.99 at the top?
[09:29] <edition> and no gimp? even though the iso is 1gb?
[09:29] <paulus68> ObrienDave, no it didn't
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> edition  gimp is non-essential to make the system work
[09:29] <edition> ah, ok
[09:30] <edition> Is Qt a good IDE for C++?
[09:30] <ObrienDave> paulus68, did it look something like this; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_grubversion1.png
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> edition  if it suits your needs, then it's good
[09:31] <edition> ok
[09:32] <paulus68> ObrienDave, no just like the white square box with nothing in there (where you can normally find the memtest and others and no header
[09:32] <antonio44> When I try to open a power point (.ppt) file I'm getting this window popping up http://www.anony.ws/image/Do3S  Anyone ever dealt with this before?
[09:32] <edition> how to remove global menu for apps?
[09:32] <paulus68> rerun the command and try again?
[09:33] <ObrienDave> i would try sudo update-grub
[09:33] <ObrienDave> see if it finds the kernels
[09:35] <paulus68> Ok will reboot and see what happens
[09:36] <ObrienDave> too quick *sigh*
[09:36] <DJones> antonio44: Not something I've come across before, found an old thread on the openoffice forum https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14418 that suggests that the file may be corrupt
[09:36] <ObrienDave> back in 5
[09:36] <paulus68> ObrienDave, still the same
[09:37] <ObrienDave> ok, give me a few, brb
[09:37] <paulus68> ok
[09:38] <daGrevis> will i be able to see problems i have with shutdown in /var/log/syslog?
[09:38] <antonio44> Djones: I doubt the files is corrupt...this has happened quite a few times to me
[09:38] <antonio44> with different files
[09:41] <DJones> antonio44: Might be worth joining #libreoffice and asking there, seems a bit quiet here at the moment
[09:41] <vegombrei> k1l_ yep i have the file from the official ubuntu torrent thing you said
[09:41] <vegombrei> still nada
[09:41] <jhattara> are there good alternatives for FileZilla in ubuntu ?
[09:41] <vegombrei> im telling ya the files broken
[09:41] <k1l_> vegombrei: check the md5
[09:41] <vegombrei> ya ya ya the md5 isnt a match
[09:41] <vegombrei> i got this software to check that
[09:41] <smittix> jhattara: What's wrong with filezilla?
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> !ftp | jhattara
[09:42] <urban_cohort> rjsalt thanks for your help. I just removed that unconfigured  package and it worked.
[09:42] <jhattara> smittix: it can't compare recursively
[09:42] <antonio44> thanks djones:
[09:42] <jhattara> MonkeyDust: thanks, i'll check those
[09:43] <ObrienDave> paulus68, ok it boots to grub but no entries, correct?
[09:43] <vegombrei> someone else needs to download and check that file
[09:43] <k1l_> vegombrei: which file?
[09:44] <paulus68> ObrienDave, correct
[09:44] <smittix> jhattara: Ah ok.
[09:44] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, i already have it and the md5 is good
[09:44] <ObrienDave> paulus68, are you familiar with grub-customizer?
[09:44] <paulus68> ObrienDave, no I'm not
[09:45] <vegombrei> the ubuntu 14 i386 torrent and check the md5 that file is a bad file there
[09:45] <k1l_> vegombrei: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[09:45] <vegombrei> ive done it twice and got md5 dont match both times
[09:45] <edition> whats the best video editor, in terms of stability and amount of features?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> !best | edition
[09:46] <ObrienDave> paulus68, which version are you running? 14.04?
[09:46] <edition> ?
[09:46] <paulus68> yes
[09:46] <k1l_> vegombrei: then something went wrong twice for you. are you sure you dont mix the 14.04 and 14.04.1 isos?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> edition  again, what best suitgs your needs, is the best
[09:46] <ObrienDave> paulus68, ok, try installing it from https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> suits*
[09:47] <k1l_> vegombrei: because you are too unprecise with "ubuntu 14" there are at least 2 ubuntu releases in 2014
[09:47] <edition> great fx, green screen, non-linear editing, etc...
[09:47] <vegombrei> k1l_ yeah im quite particular about this stuff ive installed it so many times .. just this time i make the bootable dvd and it just doesnt boot
[09:48] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, force a recheck in your torrent client
[09:48] <k1l_> so give the exact version you said you downloaded
[09:48] <bcvery> edition, I've found kdenlive to be reasonable; you should also look at pitivi (but YMMV)
[09:48] <vegombrei> k1l_ got this sofware md5sum that checks the md5 and it says its a mismatch
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> edition  there's also openshot
[09:49] <edition> ok, thanks
[09:49] <k1l_> vegombrei: ok, then i cancle my downloads to verify the isos because you refuse to give precise informations. god luck then
[09:50] <vegombrei> k1l_ its the ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386
[09:50] <paulus68> ObrienDave, it's working now thanks
[09:50] <vegombrei> k1l_ sorry for the late response i didnt see the earllier msg
[09:51] <ObrienDave> paulus68, what is working?
[09:51] <paulus68> ObrienDave, I have the menu as mentioned in the printscreen
[09:52] <derrzzaa> for a home network share to support linux, osx, windows devices, which is best to use NFS or Samba?
[09:52] <ObrienDave> excellent, glad to be of assistance :)
[09:52] <yeats> theboog
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> derrzzaa  samba for windows, nfs for linux
[09:53] <derrzzaa> I was wondering if I'd need to set up both. Win has some NFS support
[09:53] <derrzzaa> OSX does Samba
[09:53] <derrzzaa> Can one be used for both?
[09:53] <derrzzaa> I know it can but, reliably.
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> derrzzaa  how is your question ubuntu related?
[09:54] <derrzzaa> the share is on ubuntu server
[09:55] <daGrevis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239307
[09:55] <daGrevis> yelp!
[09:56] <geirha> derrzzaa: samba should be least work
[10:05] <Eco2876> hello I couldnt install dotnet30 on winetricks thats why I asked at winehq they told me the bug was fixed but ubuntu did not use the latest winetricks version and they pointed me out wich should I use, the point is I copied the script and made it executable but when I try to run it this is what it says: wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string, error message 'wine: /home/piquio/.wine is not owned by you'
[10:13] <samba35> i am trying to install wireless card (netgear wg311v3) with ndiswrapper after driver is installed when i run iwconfig its not able to detect card ,can you please tell me what could be wrong i am doing
[10:13] <CodeGosu> i have booted cloned linux in recovery mode to command promt, how do i make system initialize networking, since i have another network card how do i make system auto detect it? ( networking in live xubuntu disk works fine )
[10:15] <CodeGosu> ' ifconfig eth0 up' does 'error while getting interface flags: No such device'
[10:17] <dyu> anyone tried adding email notifications to duply/duplicity?
[10:18] <znf> Hello. Does anyone know why Byobu would turn my terminal into an 8color terminal, when I Have support for 256 everywhere (my terminal emulator is 256 color, if I don't run byobu, I get 256 color, if I run tmux/screen manualy, I get 256 colors etc.)
[10:18] <sveinse> Does Ubuntu maintain a list of laptops that works well with it? Previously, having nvidia was a good choice, but now with the dual Intel/nvidia (optimus) thing, is seems it isn't any more.
[10:19] <daGrevis> wait wat. to upgrade kernel I need to compile it myself? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade?action=show&redirect=UpgradeKernel
[10:19] <CodeGosu> ethtool -e eth0 'cannot get driver information no such device'
[10:19] <dw1> daGrevis: no
[10:20] <daGrevis> dw1, i run apt-get update && upgrade but it said something about keeping back linux-generic update
[10:20] <dw1> daGrevis: Software Updater will update it automatically and ask you to reboot
[10:20] <dw1> daGrevis: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:20] <varunendra> CodeGosu, so maybe you don't have 'eth0', may be it is 'eth1' or '2' or something entirely different. Check "sudo lshw -C network" to see its logical name
[10:20] <daGrevis> dw1, ty
[10:21] <k1l_> for the logs: the ubuntu 14.04.1 i386.iso got the md5sum a4fc15313ef2a516bfbf83ce44281535 so its correct. vegombrei
[10:21] <dw1> daGrevis: man apt-get to see the diff
[10:22] <daGrevis> dw1, y thanks. im used to arch and pacman thats why the confusion
[10:24] <calimero_82> ciao a tutti
[10:24] <calimero_82> buon ferragosto
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !it| calimero_82
[10:24] <calimero_82> sorry
[10:26] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, snarky cannon locked and loaded, SIR! ;P
[10:26] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, at ease, private!
[10:26] <ObrienDave> lol
[10:27] <ObrienDave> *shuffles feet* but i want to so badly ;P
[10:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey I downloaded the alarm clock app; if my computer is in suspend, will it still work?
[10:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I really need to make sure I don't sleep through this appointment.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, smartphone + alarm clock
[10:34] <vitimiti> Akiva-Thinkpad, why don't you try it? Set it to five minutes from here and put it to sleep, see what happens
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, nope; no smartphone
[10:34] <vitimiti> Or use the phone, yeah
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> just laptop.
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ;_; wish I had a phone
[10:34] <ObrienDave> ummm not sure if i would trust it THAT much without testing
[10:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay testaroo
[10:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nope
[10:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ping
[10:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ping
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !test | Akiva-Thinkpad, use the other channel
[10:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah so it didnt work
[10:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what the heck am I supposed to do?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, ask mommy to give you a wake up call.
[10:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, yah, I live by my self in the woods :P
[10:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> not gonna happen
[10:38] <bcvery> Akiva-Thinkpad, Don't suspend the laptop?
[10:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bcvery, again; woods; no electricity
[10:38] <ObrienDave> get a real alarm clock?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, you're an adult.  time to buy an actual alarm clock.  An ubuntu issue, this isn't.  Now let's move on.
[10:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, wow; unhelpful today; aren't we.
[10:40] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, happy2help with ubuntu issues.  this isn't
[10:40] <bcvery> Akiva-Thinkpad, rtcwake can suspend until a given time - try that.
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bcvery, thanks
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bcvery, it says my kernel is not compatible.
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> err wait
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> let me try this again
[10:48] <Diplomat> guys, I have a pretty noob question.. I have one program that allows only root to run it, but i want to execute it from another place.. but then i get permission denied.. any ideas what i can do to fix it ?
[10:50] <OERIAS> ?join #debian
[10:53] <sebastianlutter> I noticed www-data has set /bin/sh in /etc/passwd (Ubuntu Server 13.10). Is there no passwd set for www-data, or is there a internal passwd set and used by some service? I want to set a passwd for www-data to allow login with www-data. If there is already an internal passwd set I would not do this to not break things. Can someone enlight me?
[10:58] <kgalahassa> hi, how can i report to you an error about ubuntu update
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !ask |kgalahassa,
[10:58] <Sven_vB> sebastianlutter, there should be a better way than logging in as www-data
[10:59] <kgalahassa> no ubottu, you use to paste errors somewhere i think, before reporting it
[10:59] <Sven_vB> sebastianlutter, can you show us the first few chars of the current password hash? or maybe, does it start with "!", "x" or the like?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !paste | kgalahassa
[11:01] <kgalahassa> ubottu, cool, that was my expectation
[11:03] <skfax> Can I boot an Ubuntu live CD and safely remove the CD while continuing to run the OS? Or are there separate boot arguments to ensure that everything necessary is loadeded into RAM on boot?
[11:03] <kgalahassa> Please , get a look of what command line shows after sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052858/
[11:03] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, I'd guess that your software mirror is unreachable.  change the mirror or wait for a day and try again
[11:04] <XLV> !xandr
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !quantal | kgalahassa,
[11:04] <XLV> !xrandr
[11:04] <Sven_vB> kgalahassa, which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, actually, I was wrong.  Quantal is end of life = no longer supported
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !eolugrade | kgalahassa
[11:05] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett, ubottu: ok , so I have to update to another version 13.04 perhaps
[11:05] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, ALSO end of life
[11:05] <Sven_vB> yes if you're still on quantal, that's the best you can do
[11:06] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, 12.04, 14.04 are long term support
[11:06] <kgalahassa> ok
[11:06] <sebastianlutter> Sven_vB, there is a * instead of a passwd hash
[11:07] <Sven_vB> sebastianlutter, i think that means that login is accepted but no password will work. you can still use SSH keys or other authentification.
[11:07] <bakata1337> Hey!
[11:08] <s00x> anyone using f.lux? can i change daytime color temperature to 4000?
[11:08] <kgalahassa> Now this is another errors I  got install QuantumGis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052890/
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | kgalahassa, READ this time!
[11:08] <kgalahassa> Now this is another errors I  got installing QuantumGis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052890/
[11:08] <sebastianlutter> Sven_vB: Thanks for the hints, I'll go with public keys
[11:09] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, END OF LIFE = NO LONGER SUPPORTED
[11:10] <Sven_vB> kgalahassa, probably an end-of-life problem, too. also, when showing sudo (anything) output for IRC, set it to english: sudo LANG{,UAGE}=en_US.UTF-8 apt-get ...
[11:11] <Sven_vB> well, at least for english speaking channels
[11:11] <Sven_vB> also if you want messages that search engines can find forum threads for
[11:11] <kgalahassa> Sven_vB, ok
[11:13] <s00x> anyone using f.lux?
[11:15] <Sven_vB> spoiler: f.lux adjusts display color temperature to daytime
[11:16] <s00x> Sven_vB: in ubuntu i can only change nighttime color. it is possible change daytime color?
[11:19] <sveinse> What has happened to firmware-libertas? It is not available in trusty. Has the firmware been superseded by another packages I dont know about?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !info firmware-libertas
[11:21] <sveinse> Well I know that, but what has happened to the contents of the package. I still need the libertas firmware for my wifi chip...
[11:24] <sveinse> Hmm. The firmware file does not exist any more in any package :( bummer!
[11:26] <Sven_vB> s00x, dunno, i don't use it. but if the program can change one of the colors, then it is possible to change the colors on ubuntu, and up to the program to offer you the options
[11:30] <Rohan_m> My ISP support Low MTU Size is it a problem for other services running on ubuntu ?
[11:39] <tiblock> Hi. Is there some terminal software that can paste text to internet and give URL? I mean like "cat /var/log/some.log | ix" and that will upload that text and give URL, but ubuntu dont have "ix". Is there something like that?
[11:40] <eeee> !pastebinit | tiblock
[11:40] <tiblock> eeee, thank you
[11:40] <eeee> np
[11:47] <kgalahassa> ubottu: Now I want to know which of  upgrade or reinstallation is adequate. how can I fix it?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> kgalahassa  fix what?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, download 12.04 or 14.04.  make a usb.  BOOT the USB.  Install ubuntu
[11:48] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, eol quantal ...
[11:48] <technocf> Where can I find a good tutorial for setting up an Ubuntu mail server with virtual mailboxes.  I've found some tutorials but they only go into setting up postfix, not all the other bits.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> technocf, ask #ubuntu-server   ?
[11:48] <technocf> ok
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> kgalahassa  you cannot fix something that's dead, i tried with my dog
[11:51] <tiblock> Little help please. I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now Xorg crashing http://paste.ubuntu.com/8053109/ what can i try to fix it?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> tiblock, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:52] <jackhum> I am unable to connect my 14.04 to 802.11 network http://askubuntu.com/questions/508716/problem-connecting-ubuntu-14-04-wifi-to-802-11-network?noredirect=1#comment686708_508716
[11:53] <tiblock> cfhowlett, but its allredy 14.04.1 or should i do this anyway?
[11:53] <jackhum> i already posted my question to askubuntu but no one came to my rescue .  so i came to irc for help
[11:53] <cfhowlett> tiblock, if you're already 14.04.1 this won't help.  I hoped the fix would be in the point release - obviously not.
[11:54] <tiblock> cfhowlett, ye, "apt-get dist-upgrade" did nothing
[11:54] <cfhowlett> tiblock, sorry, that was my only suggestion.  ask again channel
[11:55] <jackhum> any chance you people have answer of my question ?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> !details | jackhum
[11:57] <eeee> jackhum: try sudo apt-get install xorg xorg-utils xorg-xinit xorg-twm xorg-xclock xterm xorg-server xorg-server-utils
[11:57] <cfhowlett> eeee, is there a command to reconfigure x-org??? I don't know ...
[11:57] <jackhum> MonkeyDust, ubottu  : I already posted a log file in askubuntu forum
[11:58] <jackhum> I have 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04 as dual boot system , my college wifi connects out of box with windows , but i dont have any luck with ubuntu
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  great, describe it here too
[11:59] <Darael> In 14.04, the apparmor profile for /usr/lib/dovecot/imap-login does not seem to allow access to /var/run/dovecot/config, causing clients to see tls handshake timeouts.  Should I open a bug
[11:59] <jackhum> it uses 802.11 security ,
[12:00] <eeee> cfhowlett: jackhum dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:00] <eeee> don't know if that'll work
[12:00] <cfhowlett> eeee, I think that's the one
[12:01] <jackhum> MonkeyDust, ubottu : tell me what else you want to know , and earlier the wifi connected when i used 12.04 , i think problem started arising with 12.04+ versions
[12:01] <Darael> jackhum: try connecting to eduroam, if thy college is part of that network.  If that works, we have a basis from which to start.  The username should be as usual with @college.domain appended.
[12:01] <jackhum> yeah it uses , cyberoam
[12:04] <jackhum> tell me what else do you people need .
[12:04] <varunendra> jackhum, based on the wireless_script report you posted here : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7995292/ , please try saving your Access-Point's MAC address in the "BSSID" field of the Network Manager settings for the connection. Save and close NM settings, and try to reconnect.
[12:05] <Darael> varunendra: if it's a college network, that's going to be counterproductive - one would want to be able to roam between APs
[12:05] <jackhum> varunendra, How should i do that?
[12:06] <varunendra> Darael, take a look at the report I linked to, it is from poster's AU post, and shows only one AP in the NM list
[12:06] <Darael> varunendra: At the current location, yes, but that doesn't mean jackhum won't ever want to move the machine to elsewhere in the college.
[12:08] <Darael> varunendra: Besides, the "iwlist scan" section of the report shows three cells, although two are hiding their ESSID
[12:08] <varunendra> Darael, that setting is meant per connection. And I have a good reason to suggest that. See those "Reason 8" in dmesg part? That means NM roamed to another connection before it could properly connect. Usually happens when there are many APs with same name, but somehow happening here too. My interpretation of the reason code may be wrong though.
[12:09] <varunendra> Darael, the setting would be different for a different connection (profile).
[12:10] <Darael> varunendra: That's kind of my point, though: for things to Just Work™ one wouldn't want to configure a different connection for every AP in the college's network!
[12:11] <varunendra> jackhum, you may also try a driver parameter available for your driver. To do so, try these commands - "sudo modprobe -rv iwlwifi" ..... then .... "sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi 11n_disable=8"
[12:12] <jjavaholic> i'm looking for an app to add name-value information to my jpegs which app would you suggest and if you can provide a link to a guide as well that would be handy
[12:12] <jackhum> varunendra, can you update those on my askubuntu page . so that , i can shutdown my windows and try those on my ubuntu
[12:12] <uber> eeee: Error: "pastebinit" is not a valid command.
[12:12] <uber> MonkeyDust: Error: "details" is not a valid command.
[12:13] <varunendra> Darael, we have no clues or hints at the moment to believe it would be necessary at all. But if you search the forums, they are full of threads where binding the connections to specific APs was the ONLY solution that worked. Not awesome, but at least got them a connection.
[12:13] <tiblock> Help plese. After 12.04->14.04 upgrade mine Xorg not starting http://paste.ubuntu.com/8053109/ is "apt-get purge fglrx*" correct solution?
[12:13] <tiblock> *please
[12:14] <varunendra> jackhum, I am on Ubuntu Forums, not on Ask Ubuntu. You may post a thread at UF if you wish, I don't have an account on AU.
[12:14] <jackhum> varunendra, : oh. google signin works
[12:14] <eeee> uber: <command> | pastebinit
[12:14] <uber> eeee: Error: "<command>" is not a valid command.
[12:14] <eeee> uber: .
[12:14] <uber> eeee: Error: "." is not a valid command.
[12:14] <eeee> bot?
[12:15] <Darael> jjavaholic: An axi-cache search suggests "exiv2" if th'art willing to use the command line, but turns up nothing likely-looking in the way of GUI tools
[12:16] <varunendra> jackhum, for some reason, I deleted my AU profile. Which means for some reasons (that I probably don't understand myself), I don't want to be on AU - that looks like Canonical's favourite, and I am a sentimentalist with UF ;p
[12:16] <jackhum> varunendra, : will ugrading to 14.04.1 help me?
[12:17] <varunendra> jackhum, can't say about that
[12:18] <Darael> jackhum: If th'art already on 14.04 and the packages are up-to-date, I can definitively say "no" (because th'art *already* on 14.04.1).  If not, the best anyone can do is "maybe, but don't count on it".
[12:19] <nerdys0uth> Is youtube crashing firefox for anyone else?
[12:19] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Probably someone somewhere, but WFM on Trusty
[12:20] <varunendra> jackhum, yup, Darael is right. An "apt-get dist-upgrade" should automatically upgrade the system to 14.04.1. You are not even using the current kernel which is .....32 or higher you are on ....24
[12:20] <tiblock> okay "apt-get purge fglrx*" did fixed my problem
[12:20] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Try launching it from the command-line and pastebinning the output for us.
[12:20] <nerdys0uth> i hadn't thought of that. will do darael
[12:20] <Darael> !pastebin | nerdys0uth: if th'art unaware
[12:20] <uber> Darael: Error: "pastebin" is not a valid command.
[12:21] <gaud> could someone tell me why  deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty-updates/icehouse main  gives me some 404,  I am running ubuntu server 14.04LTS
[12:22] <Darael> gaud: All that appears to be there is trusty-updates/juno.  May be relevant?
[12:22] <nerdys0uth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8053318/
[12:22] <nerdys0uth> not as informative as i'd hoped
[12:23] <gaud> Darael.. well, juno is not even out yet, Icehouse is the latest stable version of openstack
[12:23] <jackhum> varunendra, : tell me how to do it offline , if its possible , as the problem is i can't connect to my internet , is there any solution like offline upgradE?
[12:23] <Abletonist> hello folks, actually i dont wanted to land here but i wanted to be in EFNET. How can I do that?
[12:23] <nerdys0uth> gstreamer bug maybe?
[12:24] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Hmm, no, those look like what I get just for launching Firefox.  No help there.  What sort of crash are we talking about?  Hang, or mysterious closing?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic, question answered???
[12:24] <nerdys0uth> closes when i hit a youtube page with javascript enabled
[12:24] <varunendra> jackhum, if it is a fresh install, it would be better to just do a clean install of 14.04.1. But it is highly recommended (for ANY release) to test the OS in Live mode before deciding to install it.
[12:24] <nerdys0uth> and ive got flash disabled, signed up for html5
[12:25] <nerdys0uth> lol. ok. it doesn't happen when i turn on flash
[12:25] <varunendra> jackhum, in order for your existing installation to *know* that there are upgrades available, it must be connected to internet and updated at least once.
[12:26] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Could be a GStreamer bug... this is the kind of thing where if I could reproduce the bug I'd be stracing it or running it under gdb (firefox -g) or something, but I'm out of ideas really
[12:27] <Darael> nerdys0uth: At least there's a way to make it work, even if it's by using the inferior Flash-based version :-þ
[12:27] <nerdys0uth> exactly. thanks the help :)
[12:52] <samba35> i am trying to install wireless card (netgear wg311v3) with ndiswrapper after driver is installed when i run iwconfig its not able to detect card ,can you please tell me what could be wrong i am doing
[12:53] <bugaloo> samba35, is it showing the device on ifconfig
[12:53] <bugaloo> ?
[12:53] <samba35> ndiswrapper -l show ,card is there even gui tool detect the card
[12:53] <samba35> i am not able to see wireless card with ifconfig -a
[12:55] <samba35> even iwconfig doesnt show card
[12:58] <JoeyJoeJo> I just got 3 new 3TB hard drives and setup a software raid 5. The total size of the array is 4TB. Shouldn't it be closer to 5.4TB?
[13:00] <JoeyJoeJo> samba35: That's an old, crappy wifi card. I'd suggest getting a newer one with native linux support. You can get one for like $20 off of Amazon
[13:00] <samba35> ok
[13:00] <marfiik> Where am I?
[13:00] <samba35> i have 3 of them that's why want to give try
[13:00] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu server with 5 sata controllers, just noticed that /dev/disk/by-id/ata-*** is not consistent, not sure if it was a reboot but I know have double the amount of disks?
[13:01] <JoeyJoeJo> samba35: http://www.fancycost.com/silver-alfa-awus036h-1000mw-wifi-wireless-usb-adapter-p-106214.html?zenid=1ca67c04e4ca1ddd085cd143104b1798#.U-4EhPldWoM
[13:01] <samba35> thanks
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> LucidGuy  #ubuntu-server may be more what you need
[13:29] <Guest7596> Hi everyone
[13:31] <switchtehbeat> Hi, quick question. I have a new PC. I want to run Ubuntu and windows 7. which should I install first???
[13:32] <WaKaN> windows 7
[13:32] <cfhowlett> WaKaN, win7 then ubuntu
[13:32] <switchtehbeat> install windows 7 then ubuntu? correct?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> ^ switchtehbeat
[13:32] <WaKaN> cfhowlett, yes
[13:32] <switchtehbeat> thanks! bbs
[13:41] <Ruhshan> hello
[13:41] <jwr___> User ricksebak posted a pastebin URL last night, about 12 hours ago. Can anybody find it in their irc history? (That was me who pasted it last night at home, but now i'm at work and I can't access my irc history at home)
[13:42] <Pici> !logs | jwr___
[13:42] <uber> Pici: Error: "logs" is not a valid command.
[13:44] <jwr___> Pici: perfect, thanks.
[13:44] <Ruhshan> I'm using Asus X101ch notebook, and ubuntu 12.04. In update manager, it has a notification to upgrade 14.04.1 LTS. I'v previously heard that, this version may not support the video hardwares. Is it fixed in 14.04.1?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Ruhshan  no, i tried it, it's a fan problem and forced me back to 12.04
[13:45] <mgc> hello all, how do i specify which user a script in cron.daily should run as?
[13:49] <bitsy> Hi
[13:49] <bitsy> Please can somebody help me?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> bitsy  start with a question
[13:49] <enchilado> !ask bitsy
[13:49] <enchilado> Hrm
[13:49] <enchilado> !ask | bitsy
[13:49] <enchilado> There we go.
[13:49] <Pici> mgc: you don
[13:50] <bitsy> I am a clueless noob using Ubuntu 12.04 and since I did my most recent update, Flash isn't working in my Chromium browser. It works fine in Firefox
[13:50] <mgc> Pici: not possible?
[13:50] <Pici> mgc: you don't.  They get run as root.  If you want something to run as a particular user, the best thing to do (in my opinion) is to edit that user's crontab.
[13:51] <bitsy> I am sorry that I wasn't supposed to say "please can somebody help me?" I didn't know. I was just being polite. Sorry if I'm doing everything wrong
[13:51] <bugs_bugger> hi. can somebody help me with ssh-server config for LAN? i set up a custom port and disabled password auth in favor of pubkey. locally i can connect but not from a second machine. connection times out
[13:52] <mgc> Pici: that makes sense I didn't add via crontab -e because of the complexity of the script
[13:52] <mgc> Pici: I guess I could just add 'sudo - <user>' to the commands in the script...
[13:53] <Pici> mgc: Alternatively, you could add it to /etc/crontab, in which you can specify a user for it to run as.
[13:57] <k1l_> !away | RowdyChild|Away
[13:58] <Hew4> Hi. Unfortunately I have deinstalled Python and entered "sudo apt-get autoremove". So many programs are also deinstalled now - is there a possibility to reverse that
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> Hew4  you have no backups?
[13:59] <abu-aisha>  if i have a vsat connection and a router with wifi, then someone has my password a uses my connection, will i have their computer name (ms windows OR ubuntu) and mac address logged? typically? i know this is #emacs and not the right place for this question but i hope someone can answer
[13:59] <abu-aisha> i mean , i know this s #ubuntu
[14:00] <k1l_> abu-aisha: dont crosspost and if you know its offtopic ask in #ubuntu-offtopic in the first place
[14:01] <Pici> abu-aisha: or ##networking
[14:01] <abu-aisha> Pici: in ##networking i got one answer: usually not
[14:01] <abu-aisha> but i really need to be sure
[14:03] <majukarma> Hello
[14:03] <kikimeter> someone can tell me if there is a greylisting solution to work with a mail transfer agent like opensmtpd ?
[14:03] <kikimeter> the only solution I found are for postfix MTA
[14:05] <hyde> Hi, any Qt programmers around? I'm getting error: module "QtQuick" is not installed for any QML2 app, for line import QtQuick 2.0
[14:05] <c2tarun> Good Morning guys.
[14:05] <hyde> I have qt5declarative-dev package installed
[14:06] <hyde> qtdeclarative5-dev *
[14:08] <majukarma> hello
[14:08] <majukarma> hello
[14:08] <majukarma> bye
[14:08] <hyde> found it! I was missing package qtdeclarative5-qtquick2-plugin
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> what's the command again to login in a remote windows pc? r... something
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> ok, rdesktop
[14:24] <genio> Did last night's MS updates kill samba's ability to talk to AD?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> genio  is that a server?
[14:26] <genio> err, this week's updates (not last night's)
[14:27] <genio> Microsoft Updates on Windows Server 2012 - Active Directory domain controllers are apparently not allowing our Linux machines to communicate anymore
[14:27] <cfhowlett> genio, maybe better addresssed in #ubuntu-server   ??
[14:28] <holy_moses> hi everyone, noob here with a simple question. i'm trying to do something difficult (for me) before i do, i want to double check i know my root password for my   │ AlexRussia
[14:28] <holy_moses>                       | raspberry pi (raspian wheezy) is there an easy way to prompt me for my password (i don't want to change it - i just need a few goes at it to know which one it    │ alip
[14:28] <holy_moses>                       | is) i tried typing in sudo su but i was abble to access the root without raspian prmopting me                                                                     │ Almtesh
[14:28] <holy_moses> 14:25:55   holy_moses | for my password. anyone know any good tips. cheers
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> genio  or even in ##windows (doubel #)
[14:28] <holy_moses> sorry! hi everyone, noob here with a simple question. i'm trying to do something difficult (for me) before i do, i want to double check i know my root password for my raspberry pi (raspian wheezy) is there an easy way to prompt me for my password (i don't want to change it - i just need a few goes at it to know which one it is) i tried typing in sudo su but i was abble to access the root without raspian
[14:28] <holy_moses> prmopting me for my password. anyone know any good tips. cheers
[14:29] <cfhowlett> holy_moses, wheezy is #debian not ubuntu
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> holy_moses  wheezy sounds debian to me, that's not supported here
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> holy_moses  type /j #debian, ask there
[14:31] <k1l_> and the rpi cant run ubuntu at all due t the old ARM SoC. so its not helping anyway
[14:31] <holy_moses> thanks
[14:32] <frib> hi.  is it safe to assume that this card is compatible with ubuntu 14 (Both bluetoth and wifi)? http://www.amazon.it/Intel-Centrino-Wireless-n-Bluetooth-2230bn-hmwwb/dp/B007MHE4U6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-2&keywords=intel+centrino+n2230
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !hcl | frib
[14:34] <vickywiz> ooga
[14:34] <frib> cfhowlett, i don't see it explicitly mentioned on the ubuntu site, does that mean it definitely won't work?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> frib, no it just means *if* it was tested, it didn't get a write up.
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> frib  in short: nobody knows
[14:36] <cfhowlett> frib, this ^^^
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> frib  try it review it, add it to the !hcl list
[14:38] <frib> MonkeyDust, i haven't bought it yet
[14:38] <frib> i spent all day on the phone with hp just to find out if intel wifi cards were compatible and they could only confirm that one
[14:38] <ulkesh> frib: if this is similar, someone in the reviews said it worked in Ubuntu, but take that for what it is (anecdotal):  http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Centrino-Express-Bluetooth-2230BNHMW/dp/B009DAFJRM
[14:39] <teksal> what's the difference btw lib32ncurses5 and libncurses5:i386 ? (and all similarly named such packages)
[14:39] <frib> ulkesh, seems reliable to me
[14:40] <kostkon> teksal, 32bit and 64bit versions of the same package
[14:40] <teksal> no
[14:41] <kostkon> teksal, oh they are not the same package
[14:42] <teksal> is libncurses5:i386  64-bit? I dont think so
[14:42] <teksal> prefix x64 means 64-bit, not i386
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> teksal  use    apt-cache show [package]    to read the difference... the one is supported 18months, the other is LTS
[14:46] <work_> hi all, I try to understand (not setup) a firewall and what part of your system that are accessible from the outside world.  Can somebody point my to some documentation ?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !ufw | work_
[14:49] <work_> .. I know about iptables and so on but what I want to know is what happens then I connect a network cable. (how do the OS find the IP table ?)
[14:50] <cfhowlett> work_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> work_  you want to know where the ip tables are located in the system?
[14:53] <work_> cfhowlett, I don't looking for a tutorial for the syntax to use for setting up a firewall, I want to understand what happens in a technical way, how do the cable "connect" to the IP tabel ?
[14:54] <iris> bonjour
[14:54] <iris> Je suis à la recherche d'aide !
[14:54] <Pici> !fr | iris
[14:54] <Slart> !fr | iris
[14:55] <work_> MonkeyDust, I know that by running " which iptables" but why do the OS call this file ?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> work_  not sure what you mean... the OS loads a module at startup, that's all, i guess
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> work_  and you can enable or disable that module
[14:58] <LucidGuy> made a change in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local    do I have to run update-initramfs after for change to take effect?
[14:58] <Slart> work_: It sounds like you should go find a good book on the linux kernel.. afaik that's where these things happen.. Looking at the kernel source code might be helpful but I think a good book might be more useful.. there might just be one available in swedish
[14:58] <cfhowlett> LucidGuy, pretty certain that's a yes
[15:01] <work_> Slart, how do you know I am Swedish ?  Yes, I done some reading about linux lately but was hoping to find recurses specifically about how Internet connections work, everything I find is about setting up networks and so on and I just want to understand the technology
[15:02] <work_> ..like the I connect the cable then the driver in the network card looking for file x and ...
[15:02] <cfhowlett> work_, a book is much preferable to trying to explain in this irc.     Check these titles.  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[15:03] <MeXTuX> Tried this http://www.linux-compatible.com/tutorial/docky-closes-after-waking-suspend-ubuntu to fix a Docky issue but now when I open LXTerminal the directory is / instead of my home directory. Any idea?
[15:03] <MeXTuX> I am using Lubuntu btw
[15:04] <teksal> if anyone wonders, answer to my question is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[15:05] <work_> cfhowlett, I understand your point but was hoping for search terms more specific then "linux kernel"
[15:06] <cfhowlett> work_, ##linux             would likely be able to direct you more precisely
[15:06] <work_> cfhowlett, no problem , thanks
[15:06] <Balzy> hello, does any of you use ZeroBin? I can't find anything about embed posts as you can do with pastebin (please reply in private message, no ot here ;) )
[15:07] <Slart> work_: sorry.. was away for a second.. I checked your whois-information  /whois <nickname> in your irc-client does this
[15:08] <work_> Slart, I see, so you do not try to hack my system : )
[15:08] <Slart> work_: as far as I know this stuff is handled by the kernel .. there are university courses about operating systems so I'm guessing there has to be litterature out there on the subject
[15:08] <Slart> work_: if I did I wouldn't admit it =)
[15:09] <kasisnu> Hey. What tool can I use to track network usage per process?
[15:09] <Slart> work_: perhaps ask in #linux instead or check the kernel development site and see if they have some links to more information
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> kasisnu  lsof comes to mind
[15:09] <kasisnu> I just installed nethogs and it's fine.
[15:10] <Fuchs> kasisnu: iftop, ntop, iptraf
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> kasisnu  try wireshark (sharkwire?)
[15:10] <Fuchs> lsof is hardly "usage", it's more "has a network connection"
[15:10] <kasisnu> But I can't find a way to filter it just by the process id.
[15:10] <anunnaki> !makefile
[15:10] <work_> Slart, hehe, If you do and you find some info maybe you can put a note on my desktop : )
[15:10] <cfhowlett> kasisnu, |grep pid        ?
[15:10] <kasisnu> I feel wireshark might be overkill.
[15:10] <work_> Slart, ok, thnaks
[15:11] <anunnaki> !make
[15:11] <Slart> work_: lots of stuff here.. not sure how "user friendly" it is though   http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/mainpage
[15:11] <Fuchs> nethogs would also work  (kasinu)
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> !info nethogs
[15:11] <work_> Slart, I will look, thanks again
[15:12] <Slart> work_: you're welcome
[15:13] <kasisnu> I have the process id. But it just runs in a loop showing usage for all processes.
[15:15] <kasisnu> The problem is that it overflows, and I can't see it if way too many processes are using more data than it.
[15:15] <ramay_> can anyone help with a static ip issue i am running ubuntu 12.04 on oracle virtual box and the ip keeps chaning [15:01] <ramay_> if i set the ip to manual, the internet stops working and i need to be able to do both [15:01] <ramay_> connect to internet and have a static ip [15:01] <ramay_> i have tried to reserve the ip from the router setup but doesn't seem to work, it keeps on updating the ip [15:02] <ramay_> running oracle virtualbox
[15:15] <SchrodingersScat> kasisnu: not sure if it has the function you're looking for, but iftop can show traffic per connection, and can probably filter
[15:15] <ramay_> can anyone help with a static ip issue i am running ubuntu 12.04 on oracle virtual box and the ip keeps chaning [15:01] <ramay_> if i set the ip to manual, the internet stops working and i need to be able to do both [15:01] <ramay_> connect to internet and have a static ip [15:01] <ramay_> i have tried to reserve the ip from the router setup but doesn't seem to work, it keeps on updating the ip [15:02] <ramay_> running oracle virtualbox