[05:34] <ActionParsnip> webnet: there are boot options to make monitors work with GPUs, its a common thing
[05:34] <webnet> ActionParsnip, the lcd works but the backlight doesnt function
[05:35] <webnet> went rounds about it on here for months after 11.04 came out
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: absolutely, I still miss Karmic :)
[05:35] <kevdog> I'll answer my own git question: git rev-list --max-count=1 <branch name>, so something like this: git rev-list --max-count=1 master
[05:36] <kevdog> Never ran Karmic, hated edgy, but Feisty was a true love.
[05:36] <webnet> but nonetheless, terminal doesnt open ctrl alt f1 does nothing alt f2 does nothing
[05:36] <sacarlson> dumb_dumb: you can look in synaptic for properties on mysql  to see what files are in it.  but I know that data bases are in /lib/?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: started Ubuntu at Gutsy
[05:36] <neo1691> Hi i am trying to share my ethernet connection for my andriod device from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless but when i type this in terminal sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop it says sudo: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager: command not found
[05:37] <sacarlson> dumb_dumb: opps /var/lib/?
[05:37] <webnet> everything i had open except x chat has crashed out already ActionParsnip
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> webnet: what about if you create a desktop launcher to run xterm
[05:37] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: I started at Edgy Eft, but Gutsy Gibbon -- that wasn't a bad release either
[05:38] <naryfa> what's up
[05:38] <webnet> nothing opens from the launcher
[05:38] <webnet> ActionParsnip, ^^
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: was ok, I was on Mandrake / Mandriva before that, wanted to see what the hubub was
[05:38] <sacarlson> dumb_dumb: a bit closer to /var/lib/mysql
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> webnet: if you reboot and press CTRL+ALT+F1 on the login screen, create a new user there and log in as a new user, is it ok..?
[05:38] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: and then what? You stayed around?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: seemed to work so I hung out, then I became a member :)
[05:39] <webnet> ActionParsnip, im sort of afraid to reboot...
[05:39] <naryfa> why?
[05:39] <wylde> kevdog: you should see the karma points ActionParsnip has collected heh :)
[05:39] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: I had no idea you were a member -- congrats on the acheivement.  Members now a days are really good
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> webnet: you just need to logoff if you can, or hit CTRL+ALT+BackSpace to restart X
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> kevdog: TY man, thats how I gots cloak :)
[05:40] <naryfa> it isn't always enabled
[05:40] <naryfa> ActionParsnip:
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> naryfa: sup?
[05:40] <kevdog> Hardy running e17 from svn -- that was another dreamboat of mine
[05:40] <naryfa> ActionParsnip: no I was saying that this keyboard shortcut isn't always enabled
[05:41] <kevdog> ActionParsnip: Holy crap -- just realized the cloaking going on --
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> naryfa: I believe it is ni Maverick, I could be wrong
[05:42] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: lucid used alt+sysrq+k
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ah yes
[05:42] <naryfa> possibleu
[05:43] <ubuntu64bit> what is the general chat ubuntu room?  forgot?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu64bit: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:43] <ubuntu64bit> thx
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> np
[05:44] <kevdog> I'm heading out for the night -- see you guys --
[05:44] <kevdog> and girls -- not to offend anyone
[05:44] <pengw_> hi all
[05:44] <pengw_> i try to do something with opencl
[05:45] <pengw_> who know how could i configure my code block to work with openCL?
[05:48] <rongyanl> Hi Actionparsnip, I've done the md5 check with my iso file, it has no problem.
[05:48] <neo1691> anybody?? help me ethernet connection sharing via wireless card?
[05:49] <interlude> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and ran chkrootkit which brings up the following: eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[870]) is that serious?
[05:50] <ewanjojo> hello
[05:50] <CFHowlett> ewanjojo   greetings
[05:50] <ewanjojo> ada org malaysia?
[05:50] <webnet_away> ActionParsnip install is bricked
[05:51] <ewanjojo> :)
[05:51] <wylde> interlude: probably if you're not purposely running one yourself.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> webnet_away: no idea then, al I can suggest is reinstall then. And please don't use the '_away' thing
[05:51] <rongyanl> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 10.04, however, during the step "installing the base system" it stucks at about 75% with the error message "Please insert the disc labeled ..." Any help from here?
[05:51] <CFHowlett> !my|ewanjojo
[05:51] <webnet_away> soon as i hit logout boom black screen for a sec then bios.
[05:52] <tr0n> rongyanl: use the md5 to verify the disk
[05:52] <webnet_away> _away is for when im on mobile
[05:52] <ewanjojo> tq
[05:52] <interlude> wylde: so it would not be a false positive
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> webnet_away: have you tested your RAM?
[05:52] <rongyanl> tron, yes i've done the md5 check, it has no problem
[05:52] <drounse> Is ubuntu as customizable as arch?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> whats the best video converter for ubuntu
[05:53] <webnet> no but i think it may have something to do with u customizer...
[05:53] <CFHowlett> rongyanl   this is on a cd/dvd?  Try creating a USB bootable and see if that works.
[05:53] <wylde> interlude: it could be. you'd have to look into it further to know. Not much info in that statement.
[05:53] <webnet> i was using that a few minutes before it all went fubar
[05:53] <rongyanl> CFHowlett, i've tried both cd and dvd, all giving such error message
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> drounse: yes
[05:53] <supson> can you explore googles wifi maps ?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: there is no single best anything for any OS
[05:54] <supson> trying to find their mapping of wifis around the globve
[05:54] <CFHowlett> rongyanl   I'm wondering if you disk driver is failing so suggest you try a USB boot
[05:54] <drounse> ActionParsnip, so should I start with ubuntu server cd and build?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> drounse: build what?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: actually i have a bunch of greatest packages for ubuntu
[05:55] <drounse> ActionParsnip build ubuntu as if it were arch
[05:55] <interlude> wylde: i ran ps aux | grep 870 and got this result: root       870  0.0  0.0   2232  1016 ?        S    22:36   0:00 /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient-1f0eb822-9b07-461c-a70c-b5c02f37a141-eth0.lease -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf eth0
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: thats based on your opinion, it os not concrete
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> drounse: I'd start with the minimal ISO instead then
[05:56] <webnet> ActionParsnip also. i dont think its the ram because the bois splash shows up and then grub and then a few seconds of the plymouth boot screen, then black screen with the text system has failed to boot
[05:56] <drounse> ActionParsnip is that going to give me click
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: every reply for a great package, would also be a single opinion (what a chat is for)
[05:56] <wylde> interlude: false positive then. Byt the look, although I'm no expert .
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> drounse: what is 'click'?
[05:56] <drounse> Cli *
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: exactly, which is why asking what the best solution for someting is a worthless endevour, its also offtopic here
[05:57] <drounse> ActionParsnip sorry I'm on my tablet stupid autocorrect
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> drounse: minimal will install boot loader, kernal and drivers and basic packaging tools and so forth
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> webnet: its a good thing to isolate as not the cause of the issue :)
[05:57] <ubuntu64bit> everything works great so far only noticiable flaw is when i hit ctrl-alt-f1 to switch from gui to usermode then switch back from usermode to gui the screen that boot's is garbled to get it back to normal i have to minimize the first window and maximize it back to clear out the garbled window :P
[05:57] <drounse> ActionParsnip ok thank you
[05:58] <interlude> wylde: thanks. just for future reference what in the process would indicate that it's a false positive?
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: you will find most GUI converter things are basically frontends to mencoder and/or ffmpeg
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> all this rules and ego mess up all irc, but to help someone would be very easy
[05:59] <webnet> ActionParsnip. i suppose so, but wouldnt it not get past bios splash if it were the ram?. would the use of U-Customizer have anything to do with it?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> ill try google next time
[05:59] <scientes> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: ok, riddle me this. What is the best colour?
[05:59] <scientes> i cancelled the ttf-mscorefonts installer cause i didn't want to agree with the license
[05:59] <scientes> and now it fed up my dpkg
[05:59] <scientes> thats a bug if i ever saw one
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | scientes
[06:00] <wylde> interlude: I'm basing my opinion that it's a false positive on dhclient and NetworkManager are known native processes
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> scientes: no, you killed the process, probably with CTRL+C, so not a bug
[06:01] <wylde> interlude: but, if you have reason to suspect there's a problem you should really look into it further.
[06:01] <scientes> ActionParsnip, well, there is no way to no agree to the license
[06:01] <scientes> it only has the option <ok>
[06:01] <scientes> and not <cancel>
[06:01] <scientes> also ActionParsnip i am use to aptitude and dpkg lock, but this is /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> scientes: that sounds more like a bug.
[06:02] <scientes> it use to not present the license IIRC
[06:02] <neo1691> I am unable to stop the network manager using sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop
[06:02] <scientes> i mean, why cant wine just depend on RedHat's librefonts replacement of mscorefonts for the web
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> scientes: could suggest that in the bug :)
[06:03] <CFHowlett> scientes   perhaps you might suggest that to !winehq
[06:03] <CFHowlett> #winehq
[06:03] <EsoRottica> okay, now i feel retarted.
[06:03] <EsoRottica> where is 12.94?
[06:03] <EsoRottica> 12.04*
[06:03] <CFHowlett> !precise|esorottica
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> EsoRottica: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <EsoRottica> Thanks
[06:04] <interlude> wylde: cool thanks. i've ran chkrootkit before and don't remember seeing this. but i'm guessing it could be due to a system update
[06:05] <malkauns> how do u make conky always-on-top?
[06:06] <wylde> interlude: I believe there's a channel on freenode for security as well, could probably get some good input from there too.
[06:07] <interlude> wylde: thanks. do you know the name of the channel?
[06:08] <wylde> interlude: ##security I believe
[06:09] <pengw_> ok  i figured it out
[06:09] <interlude> wylde: thanks
[06:09] <Doodie> is there a way to see if anyone from my network is pinging my address?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Doodie: I'd check router logs
[06:10] <Doodie> ActionParsnip, where do i find that?
[06:11] <sacarlson> Doodie: I think wireshark with maybe an added filter to see attepted pings
[06:12] <scientes>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[06:12] <scientes> ffffff
[06:13] <fartofagony> "NASM is an auto−configuring package: once you’ve unpacked it, cd to the directory it’s been unpacked into
[06:13] <fartofagony> and type ./configure.". i type ./configure in the command prompt and get the error message: "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory". i cant find a solution for my problem anywhere
[06:14] <scientes> fartofagony, try ./autogen.sh
[06:14] <scientes> also, you have to be in the right directory fartofagony
[06:15] <fartofagony> yup
[06:15] <fartofagony> am in the right one
[06:16] <scientes> did you try autogen?
[06:16] <fartofagony> where the subdirectory is which was extracted there
[06:16] <scientes> you ahve to be IN the directory
[06:17] <fartofagony> no iidea what that is, im a windows user who just started with linux
[06:17] <scientes> also, your going to need to do apt-get install build-essential
[06:17] <fartofagony> have so much to learn :(
[06:17] <scientes> in general however fartofagony, you should stick to the software in the ubuntu repositories
[06:17] <scientes> you system will be alot stabler that way
[06:17] <scientes> also !checkinstall if you need something that isn't in the repos
[06:17] <webnet> ActionParsnip do you think my running u customize may have had anything to do with it.  Juts swapped out to new ramp and still no beans.
[06:18] <fartofagony> scientes: yeah, but the one you may be refering to is behind in versions
[06:18] <scientes> what package is it?
[06:18] <webnet> *ram
[06:18] <fartofagony> nasm
[06:19] <scientes> its not behidn
[06:19] <fartofagony> hmm im sure it was, let me check again
[06:19] <scientes> 2.09 vs 2.10
[06:19] <fartofagony> hmm
[06:19] <fartofagony> yup
[06:19] <scientes> unless you are using lucid, that is
[06:20] <fartofagony> nope
[06:20] <fartofagony> i guess the best thing to do is to jinstall the 2.9 one
[06:20] <scientes> yeah, that really is recommended
[06:21] <fartofagony> thjanks
[06:21] <scientes> however, yes they use autogen
[06:21] <scientes> so you have to ./autogen.sh
[06:21] <scientes> that was the problem
[06:21] <fartofagony> oh
[06:21] <scientes> http://repo.or.cz/w/nasm.git/tree
[06:21] <scientes> so its ./autogen.sh; make; checkinstall make install
[06:22] <fartofagony> typed it down for later research
[06:22] <scientes> (checkinstall is recommended so you can do clear uninstalls of manually installed packages
[06:22] <fartofagony> been up exactly 20 hours trying to install it
[06:22] <scientes> you could also download the debian package and upgrade it, and then do dpkg-buildpackage
[06:22] <scientes> but for any of that, you need a c compiler and other tools
[06:22] <scientes> so apt-get install build-essential is very useful
[06:22] <fartofagony> yes
[06:23] <fartofagony> hm raises another question:
[06:23] <fartofagony> a stand-alone c compiler. is there one?
[06:23] <scientes> also, its generally nicer to get sources with git
[06:23] <scientes> fartofagony, what do you mean by stand-alone?
[06:23] <fartofagony> or perhaps they use the linker of c too
[06:23] <scientes> gcc can target bar metal
[06:24] <scientes> and ubuntu also packages an arm cross-compiler in the amd64 (and i386?) repos
[06:24] <scientes> armel (EABI) and armhf (armv7)
[06:24] <fartofagony> aha
[06:24] <scientes> so you don't have to build it yourself
[06:24] <fartofagony> whew
[06:24] <scientes> if you needed other arches emdebian packages basically every sensible cross-compiler
[06:25] <scientes> in a very ubuntu-friendly format
[06:25] <scientes> there is also
[06:25] <scientes> dpkg: llvm
[06:25] <scientes> whatever, llvm
[06:25] <scientes> + clang
[06:25] <nemos> pam issues here with pop3, any help ? here's the log http://pastebin.com/i6PJ1cv0 and the pop3 config http://pastebin.com/FuFenXdc
[06:25] <scientes> fartofagony, what are you trying to do, may i ask?
[06:26] <nemos> authdaemond: pam_winbind(pop3:auth): pam_winbind_request: write to socket failed authdaemond: pam_winbind(pop3:auth): internal module error (retval = 3, user = 'xxxxx')
 a stand-alone c compiler. is there one?
[06:27] <scientes> build-essential, will give you a full-fledged POSIX build environment
[06:27] <ghostconn> dose kde support compiz?
[06:27] <scientes> ghostconn, yes
[06:27] <fartofagony> scientes: been studying c++ for a while now, and i got depressed when i read what asm languages were, so i built the desire to learn coding in nasm in linux enviroment
[06:27] <scientes> https://lwn.net/Articles/250967/
[06:27] <fartofagony> scientes: 20 years windows, life wasted on gaming and such
[06:27] <scientes> however i think you are targetting to low a level
[06:28] <fartofagony> yup
[06:28] <scientes> esp as ARM is getting big in a very big way
[06:28] <scientes> nasm doesn't work on ARM
[06:28] <scientes> and you should really leave the algorythms to the libraries
[06:28] <fartofagony> hmm
[06:28] <fartofagony> :(
[06:28] <ghostconn> kk, another question how Im running mint 12 with kde 4.7.4 how would i update to the latest version
[06:29] <fartofagony> scientes: youre probably right
[06:29] <scientes> fartofagony, this was a great video i watched earlier www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEfedtQVOY
[06:29] <scientes> meh, maybe that isn't right
[06:29] <iceroot> !mint | ghostconn
[06:29] <ghostconn> thers not a single person in that channel
[06:30] <scientes> but there is alot required for good code, and letting the computer do some of the low level stuff helps
[06:30] <iceroot> ghostconn: its on another network
[06:30] <iceroot> ghostconn: and mint is offtopic here
[06:30] <fartofagony> scientes: only problem is, its a woman talking
[06:30] <ghostconn> ?
[06:30] <ghostconn> how do i get there, sorry guys
[06:30] <scientes> ghostconn, irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help
[06:30] <iceroot> ghostconn: /connect irc.spotchat.org
[06:31] <scientes> ghostconn, right click on that and click "connect"
[06:31] <ghostconn> thanks allot guys. great community over hear
[06:32] <scientes> funny thing, is that that is how i get to odd servers too
[06:32] <scientes> cause its alot easier than the other ways to configure xchat
[06:33] <scientes> fartofagony, I personally recommend starting with perl, ruby, or python
[06:35] <becom33> I closed my skype window I see people coming online and going offline but I cant find the skype window . when I open skype from the new panel in ubunut a new window comes up . help please
[06:36] <scientes> !skype
[06:36] <scientes> !ekiga
[06:36] <scientes> ^^^^skype is insecure/defective by design
[06:36] <becom33> I've used skype in ubuntu . I just cant find where is hidden
[06:36] <scientes> ZRPT is where it is at
[06:36] <scientes> *ZRPT
[06:36] <becom33> in not on the dorks
[06:37] <scientes> try alt-tab
[06:37] <scientes> or hold the superman key and read what it says
[06:38] <becom33> scientes: I tried alt n tab doesnt work
[06:38] <becom33> whats superman key ?
[06:38] <scientes> the one with the superman cape on it
[06:38] <bazhang> super key= windows key
[06:39] <scientes> or if your on a mac, Command key
[06:39] <becom33> scientes: tried its just numbering up the dork menu
[06:40] <scientes> well i use gnome-shell
[06:41] <becom33> um sorry wat ?
[06:41] <scientes> !gnom-shell
[06:41] <scientes> aka, not the dork menu
[06:41] <scientes> !gnome-shell
[06:41] <penguinlink> whats the dork menu?
[06:42] <scientes> i think becom33 is referring to unity
[06:42] <almoxarife> penguinlink: you know, the 'dork' menu
[06:42] <ubuntu64bit> becom33: i have alot of the same problems lol so i downloaded cairo-dock and click the applications menu icon to find what i'm looking for alot of times
[06:42] <becom33> still I cant find my opened skype :/
[06:43] <almoxarife> becom33: perhaps its not open?
[06:43] <scientes> try alt-f2
[06:43] <scientes> and then type "skype"
[06:43] <nullcall> hi all i have problem i load ubuntu 11.04 on my P4 machine on Gigabyte mother board with 1.5 GB RAM it installed fine but might be prob with display its filkering....
[06:44] <scientes> nullcall, nvidia or ati/amd graphics?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: what video chip do you use?
[06:44] <scientes> nullcall, did it work on the livecd before the install?
[06:45] <nullcall> scientes: install
[06:45] <scientes> common type, based on the layout of the keyboard
[06:45] <scientes> i do that one all the time
[06:45] <CFHowlett> nullcall   pentium 4?  pretty old - as is your GPU I'm guessing.  I suggest you look at xubuntu or lubuntu.  both are designed for older, lower spec machines like yours.
[06:46] <scientes> but he has 1.5 GB ram
[06:46] <scientes> he could just use gnome classic or unity-2d
[06:46] <nopleaseno> My mouse lags. The cursor moves about a second after I move the mouse.  I booted it this morning, now my mouse lags. What is wrong, how do I fix it and most importantly who do I blame?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:46] <nullcall> scientes: all are installed perfectily all settings are fine but might be probliem with screen i m using 29" LCD and there i cant see menus or any thing proparly
[06:46] <CFHowlett> scientes   p4 and I'd bet older gpu...
[06:46] <becom33> scientes: tried but it opened a new window , and almoxarife it is open I see people going online and offline
[06:46] <nullcall> ActionParsnip: i cant see anything proparly i cant running any commands
[06:46] <scientes> becom33, click on the skype logo in the top right
[06:46] <nullcall> :(
[06:47] <malkauns> any conky experts here?  how do u make conky always-on-top?
[06:47] <scientes> nullcall, do you get the login window?
[06:47] <scientes> malkauns, yuck
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: press CTRL+ALT+F1  and run it there
[06:47] <nullcall> yes
[06:47] <scientes> malkauns, use htop or something a little better
[06:47] <nullcall> before login all are fine
[06:47] <becom33> scientes: there is no logo
[06:47] <nullcall> mean screen and ll
[06:48] <malkauns> scientes, i use conky for 1 thing, cpu ring indicator
[06:48] <scientes> nullcall, you need to select unity-2d before logging in, click on the ubuntu icon next to your name (to the right)
[06:48] <malkauns> scientes, pretty sure htop doesnt do that :P
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> nullcall: log in to unity2D, may help.
[06:48] <ghostconn> where would i find my banshee plugins folder in kde?
[06:48] <ghostconn> whats the directory? i need to install a plugin
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: same place as in gnome DE
[06:49] <scientes> malkauns, what is cpu ring?
[06:49] <scientes> could you cant possibly measure system/user mode ring stuff
[06:49] <nullcall> ActionParsnip: & scientes: i'll do that n get back to you after that tx
[06:49] <syn-ack> hah
[06:49] <syn-ack> scientes, You don
[06:49] <malkauns> scientes, a graphical ring that shows cpu usage
[06:49] <research4oscar> i am trying to install webmin on my fresh ubuntu installation but i get failed due to dependencies.
[06:49] <syn-ack> I was thinking of process rings.
[06:50] <ghostconn> actionparsnip, i honestly cant find it
[06:50] <almoxarife> !webmin
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: its not compatible with ubuntu
[06:50] <scientes> malkauns, well anyways, you can use devilspie
[06:50] <scientes> malkauns, actually, apt-get install compiz-settings-manager
[06:50] <malkauns> what does that do?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | research4oscar
[06:50] <malkauns> scientes, does that do what i am talking about?
[06:51] <ghostconn> and in gnome is would be int he gnome folder? lol
[06:51] <scientes> malkauns, yes, you can do it with compiz settings manager
[06:51] <scientes> OR with devilspie, but that is generally for use with metacity
[06:51] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: thanks i will take a look
[06:51] <_nedR> hello, i was trying to compile latest version of vlc but it seems to need latest version libv4l.. i think these are available at packages.ubuntu (precise).. would downloading and installing these version break or mess up anything?
[06:51] <malkauns> scientes, how do u get a graphical cpu usage indicator with compiz settings manager?
[06:51] <scientes> malkauns, you can get conky to stay on top with it
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> malkauns: if you use devilspie, grab gdevilspie from googlecode. Makes config a lot easier
[06:52] <malkauns> scientes, how?
[06:52] <scientes> to satisfy your freaky ricer needs
[06:52] <scientes> in fact, i bet you could waste days messing with gdevilspie
[06:52] <malkauns> i tried window rules "(class=conky)" but it didnt work
[06:52] <almoxarife> _nedR: it should not
[06:53] <scientes> malkauns, there is a way to query the variables ties to a window
[06:53] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: just to be sure, i installed ubuntu 11.04
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: mixing debs between releases is not advised or supported
[06:53] <scientes> BAD idea
[06:53] <scientes> also, when will launchpad build for debian?
[06:53] <malkauns> scientes, i tried that but using the plus shaped cursor but it doesnt seem to recognize the conky object
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: its not compatible with any ubuntu
[06:54] <_nedR> thanks for replies.. ActionParsnip: what is the recommended course of action
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: there is a vlc ppa. Try that
[06:54] <scientes> vlc FTW
[06:54] <_nedR> well i want to compile vlc not get latest version
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Gnome-mplayer ftw
[06:55] <scientes> mplayer FTfail
[06:55] <_nedR> i mean compile the latest versions
[06:55] <scientes> either gstreamer or vlc IMHO
[06:55] <scientes> and i tend to lean towards gstreamer
[06:56] <scientes> but i like vlc's interface better
[06:56] <sacarlson> _nedR: ppa sometimes has daily builds but if you want to compile then you'll need to install all the -dev dependancies
[06:56] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: i meant to ask that if the recommended zentyal might be appropriate for ubuntu 11.04
[06:56] <scientes> _nedR, if you want to compile apt-get build-dep vlc
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Vlc remote is awesome
[06:56] <foobArrr> gstreamer? I thought that is a library and no player. Am I wrong?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> research4oscar: should be, yes
[06:56] <ghostconn> where is application data stored with kde?
[06:57] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: oh and the later version of vlc remote doesn't work over my android phone any more
[06:57] <scientes> foobArrr, gstreamer, yes is a library, but gnome's player that uses it is labled "media player"
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: ~/.kde for kde apps
[06:57] <research4oscar> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[06:57] <_nedR> yes i did all that already ... but this one dep libv4l-dev is outdated .. as off the latest git version of vlc.. my question  really is if i download these from packages.ubuntu.com will it come back to bite me later
[06:57] <scientes> so the whole thing is basically known as gstreamer
[06:58] <scientes> in my world at least
[06:58] <sacarlson> _nedR: might try ppa for the libv4l-dev then
[06:58] <scientes> yeah do the build-dep after installing the ppa
[06:59] <scientes> if you are crazy about bleeding edge, you might also be interested in ppa:xorg-edgers
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[06:59] <sacarlson> _nedR: that's what backported libs in ppa are for to prevent it from breaking your system
[07:00] <_nedR> ok will look for a PPA..
[07:00] <_nedR> i am on oneiric ActionParsnip
[07:00] <almoxarife> scientes: I have edgers, its not that radical, without it I would crash opengl pretty often, since adding edgers I have not seen one issue related to graphics, I would recommend edgers to anyone
[07:01] <scientes> almoxarife, well, i have always felt that way about the kernel, but not quite--the latest stable by gregkh instead of torvalds
[07:01] <scientes> although i use torvalds
[07:03] <scientes> almoxarife, for very recent hardware, i wouldn't be suprised if that was true
[07:03] <almoxarife> scientes: kernels on edgers?
[07:04] <scientes> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:04] <__nedR> sorry got disconnected
[07:04] <__nedR> so PPAs won't come to bite me later.. right
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: sudo add-apt-repository ppa :ferramroberto/vlc; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:04] <scientes> they certainly can
[07:04] <almoxarife> _nedR: no, in general they will bite you later
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> _nedR: remove space after the colon
[07:05] <scientes> also, by running from git, you are helping debug
[07:05] <scientes> and speed up development
[07:06] <scientes> (if you file bug reports, that is)
[07:07] <foobArrr> Bug reports? I prefer complaining on IRC. :P
[07:07] <scientes> foobArrr, hahaha, I do too
[07:07] <scientes> its faster
[07:07] <scientes> but not as effective....
[07:09] <_nedR> ActionParsnip, i am not interested in getting latest binaries of vlc.. i am interested vlc source code.. yeah i am looking for PPAs of libv4l-dev
[07:09] <robinsmidsrod> does anyone have a preseed.cfg that sets everything but disk and mbr install location?
[07:09]  * robinsmidsrod needs an example
[07:09] <almoxarife> any putty users? ssh/x11? I can't run a lot of apps lately that I would not have problems with before, not sure what I did to cause it, I think I removed something but I can't figure out what
[07:09] <robinsmidsrod> that works with 10.04
[07:10] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: do you have xauth installed?
[07:10] <scientes> >>>>10.04
[07:10] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: not sure, I will check
[07:11] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: installing that worked for me in getting x11 apps through to my local xming server
[07:11] <robinsmidsrod> via generic putty x11 forwardning
[07:11] <Stormshadow> hi all quick question -- how can i change or set the keyboard layout when switching to VT2?
[07:11] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: loadkeys <name-of-layout>
[07:11] <kjeet> hi, i was wonderign what parts of the ubuntu system are gnme
[07:12] <uBUXUBu> desktop environment
[07:12] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: but you might try dpkg-reconfigure console-setup for something more permanent
[07:12] <uBUXUBu> files
[07:12] <kjeet> **gnome... or rely on the gnome desktop environment
[07:12] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: installed on the server or the client? its on the server
[07:12] <kjeet> what happens if i rip it out
[07:12] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: on the device you're ssh'ing into
[07:12] <scientes> kjeet, alot of functionality goes away
[07:12] <uBUXUBu> kjeet, what do u mean
[07:12] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: yea, its there
[07:12] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: your client obviously must be running an x server
[07:13] <_nedR> kjeet: you get gnome's entrails all over your shoes
[07:13] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: your client isn't a windows machine?
[07:13] <uBUXUBu> kjeet, gnome is a bit slow but is really the best overall
[07:13] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: both linux, 12.04 client, 11.10 host
[07:13] <scientes> yeah just use ssh -X
[07:13] <_nedR> faster than unity though (talking about the desktop)
[07:14] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: oh, I've never used putty in that setup, only used it on windows
[07:14] <almoxarife> scientes: I am using ssh -X
[07:14] <almoxarife> robinsmidsrod: it just takes the pain out of the command line
[07:14] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: I agree with that
[07:14] <uBUXUBu> i like my unity
[07:15] <robinsmidsrod> almoxarife: I use it mostly because of the excellent terminal emulator
[07:15] <ghostconn> what is the file permission commadn for kde? i know for gnome it's gksudo nautilus
[07:15] <ghostconn> ?????
[07:15] <almoxarife> ghostconn: kdesudo
[07:15] <uBUXUBu> no thats not it
[07:15] <scientes> or pkexec
[07:15] <_nedR> sudoku?
[07:16] <robinsmidsrod> so nobody's got a preseed.cfg that skips everything but disk/mbr questions?
[07:16] <scientes> pkexec, pkexec
[07:16] <Stormshadow> hi robinsmidsrod..thanks
[07:17] <Smith_> Hey, I installed ubuntu, and I'm trying to configure dual monitors
[07:17] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: np
[07:17] <Smith_> I'm using the nvidia drivers with my gtx 460, but it doesn'
[07:17] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: there is a gui tool to create preseed.cfg but I've never used it
[07:17] <Smith_> doesn't let me move windows between screens, is there a way to do this in ubuntu
[07:17] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: do you have a name for that?
[07:17] <Stormshadow> i see that loadkeys uses ckbcomp ... does this use some sort of external key maps?
[07:18] <robinsmidsrod> Stormshadow: I usually just say "loadkeys no" and my keyboard works (norwegian layout)
[07:18] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: it's kickstart  but the verison in ubuntu 10.04 didn't work
[07:19] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: kickstart and preseed are different things - same tool does both?
[07:19] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: kickstart is the gui that creates the proseed.cfg file for you
[07:20] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: well, from what I can see, it creates ks.cfg, not preseed.cfg, which are two vastly different config files
[07:20] <kjeet> scientes, uBUXUBu, its not really about slowness, im asking more just to understand what role it plays... linuxfromscratch seems liek overkill t figuring this out
[07:21] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: or maybe I'm confused it with something else,  oh ok but it creates a config to automate install, is that what preseed.cfg does
[07:21] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: kickstart is the redhat-derived autoinstall configuration system, but preseed is the debian-installer specific one
[07:21] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: afaik, ks.cfg is not very well supported on debian
[07:21] <_nedR> hello..i can't find any PPAs for libv4l-dev or v4l for that matter.. what is the next course of action
[07:22] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: well I pulled kickstart from ppa that supports ubuntu
[07:22] <scientes> kjeet, install htop, will let you see what is going on to a large degree
[07:23] <scientes> kjeet, also, strace and ltrace which it can use
[07:24] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: do you have a URL to that ppa?
[07:26] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: not off hand but this is the first I found http://serverfault.com/questions/295174/upgrade-the-ubuntu-puppet-package-within-kickstart-process
[07:27] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: also note I've never used it just looked at it and was thinking of using it
[07:27] <ghostconn> how would i get file permissions using dolphin
[07:29] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: well, the system-config-kickstart gui program works, and it does create a config file, but I need preseed, not kickstart, because kickstart is too coarse to handle the details I want to configure.....
[07:29] <Ububegin> Any editor which can open two source file side by side for *editing* not comparing..
[07:31] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: I've been working actively on my pxe network booting setup for some time now (using the awesome ipxe) and now I'm trying to minimize the amount of typing I have to do on each ubuntu install
[07:31] <robinsmidsrod> (because I'm soon going to put them on iscsi
[07:32] <sacarlson> robinsmidsrod: sounds cool,  I never seen ipxe before,  I have a standard pxe boot install setup for iso files
[07:32] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: the main benefit is that it supports loading files via http, which is so much faster than tftp
[07:32] <robinsmidsrod> (for downloading memdisked ISOs particularely)
[07:33] <robinsmidsrod> sacarlson: if you're into it, please join us in #ipxe
[07:34] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: GUI or text mode?
[07:35] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: I do believe I've seen someone with a vi setup that does that - can't recall where I saw it though...
[07:36] <scientes> fartofagony, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verilog
[07:36] <scientes> fartofagony, also, you can put asm in c code, with gcc extentions
[07:37] <Ububegin> robinsmidsrod: Yeah, I already do it in vim using vsplit.. But looking for a similar setup in a text editor of sorts..
[07:38] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: you mean a x11-based one?
[07:40] <Ububegin> robinsmidsrod: not sure what is x11 mean.. But I am looking similar to scite or geany..
[07:41] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: a graphical one, not text mode (read: gnome or kde)
[07:41] <robinsmidsrod> Ububegin: but no, I don't know about any, unfortunately - hope someone else can help you out
[07:44] <fidel> Ububegin: afaik Sublime Text should over a side-by-side view
[07:44] <uBUXUBu> is thunderbird an email client in itself or just a way to route your current already established email account into ubuntu?
[07:44] <Ububegin> robinsmidsrod: Oh, I am gnome based... Btw, I know eclipse can do that.. But looking a light weight editor
[07:45] <fidel> uBUXUBu: TB is a full mailclient
[07:45] <Ububegin> fidel: Sublime Text..hmm, will check it bro..
[07:45] <uBUXUBu> then why cant i set it up
[07:45] <uBUXUBu> i put a name in and it doesnt put @thunderbird.com after it??
[07:45] <fidel> uBUXUBu: ask yourself ;) the setup-assistant mozilla offers is pretty ugly i know
[07:45] <uBUXUBu> am i supposed to add in the the rest
[07:46] <fidel> uBUXUBu: why do you think a mailadress should end with @thunderbird?
[07:46] <robinsmidsrod> uBUXUBu: thunderbird is an email CLIENT, it doesn't let you create email addresses -  you need an email provider for that
[07:46] <keno10> hi
[07:46] <uBUXUBu> what does it end with?
[07:46] <fidel> its a mail client you can use with any mail-adress you have access to . config the account and thats it
[07:46] <fidel> uBUXUBu: its a mail-client
[07:46] <keno10> pls where is wiki now ?
[07:46] <uBUXUBu> ok so how and why do i use tbird
[07:46] <robinsmidsrod> uBUXUBu: but TB supports hotmail, gmail, yahoo and a bunch of other free service providers
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> so i put in my gmail there right?
[07:47] <robinsmidsrod> uBUXUBu: you can do that
[07:47] <fidel> uBUXUBu: we cant answer you why you use a program - while we can try to help you understanding it maybe ;)
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> so it routed my gmail thru ubuntu is that it?
[07:47] <uBUXUBu> routes
[07:47] <Ububegin> fidel: eeeks, is it shareware...
[07:48] <fidel> uBUXUBu: a serious mailclient should be able to access almost all existing mail-addresses (hosted by whoever)
[07:48] <uBUXUBu> well i only have 2
[07:48] <fidel> Ububegin: yeah - i remember a bloody license or similar
[07:48] <keno10> i cant find old style wiki on ubuntu.com
[07:48] <fidel> but afaik you can use it without paying (trialmode forever
[07:50] <kilonux> hello
[07:51] <airplanesimen> hi
[07:51] <keno10> hi
[07:51] <airplanesimen> hi
[07:52] <kilonux> I think I will try to reinstall my java stuff, it makes FF crash, I have a little questoin.
[07:52] <keno10> some advice ? where i can find old style wiki (as http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/ ]
[07:56] <kilonux>  All this is installed :   Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6  +  sun-java6-jre  +  openjdk-6-jre  + icedtea6-plugin
[07:57] <kilonux> I would maybe follow these lines : http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[07:58] <kilonux> should I uninstall everything first?
[08:02] <san04> Should one unmount encrypted drives by the commands given by the particular programms (e.g. luks using the luks-command: cryptsetup luksClose, or truecrypt using the GUI to unmount) or is it possible to unmount them by console using "umount" or just unmount them in nautilus. Is the effect the same or is it recommended to use the first-mentioned method?
[08:11] <socket> hey, im trying to install php GD (apt-get install php5-gd) it starts ok but then i get a 404 not found error, for the package file
[08:11] <socket> what can i do ?
[08:13] <uBUXUBu> try just sudo install
[08:14] <hiexpo> holaall
[08:14] <uBUXUBu> sudo install php5-gd
[08:18] <eric> does iptables run at boot time automatically on 10.04?
[08:22] <ZeloZelos> WOW! ive never seen this room so quiet b4
[08:24] <socket> uBUXUBu: it wants a destination ?
[08:27] <uBUXUBu> Try to use aptitude command instead of apt-get, which deals with dependencies better than apt-get.....sudo aptitude install php5-gd
[08:27] <uBUXUBu> socket, sudo aptitude install php5-gd
[08:30] <milad_> MILAD_ESF
[08:31] <prashant_123456> how to take backup of file in ubuntu ??
[08:36] <dalek_> Is there any way to prevent Windows 7 destroying grub boot loader when it does a Windows update?
[08:37] <Squall5668> dalek_ it doesn't iirc? are you sure it does?
[08:37] <scientes> Squall5668, IT DOES override the mbr
[08:38] <scientes> dalek_, its easy to just rewrite it afterwards, by using a liveCD, then chrooting into your installed system, and then doing grub-install /dev/foobar from the chroot
[08:38] <Squall5668> ah i see, sorry, long time since i used dual booting :)
[08:38] <shaibn> Hello :) When I run /usr/sbin/update-grub2 ; it creates a section in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ; which is titled /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ; and has tons of kernels I don't have installed in my system. Why does it add them if they aren't installed?
[08:38] <scientes> dalek_, you could also backup the mbr, but that way grub wouldn't detect the windows installation and be able to boot it afterwards
[08:39] <dalek_> My friend has a netbook with dual boot Ubuntu 11.10 and Windows 7. Occasionally, it will get an update which thinks it needs to re-write the MBR and I have to re-write the grub boot loader. I want to know, is there ANY way to prevent Windows updates from wrecking everything in the first place?
[08:39] <scientes> Squall5668, why its recommended to install windows first, yeah i don't run windows either
[08:39] <Unknown0BC> Hi, will ubuntu ocelot the latest version give problems installing on a new AMD like a Athlon II X4 ?
[08:39] <Stormshadow> hi all again...how is it possible to customise the 'ls' command colours in X xterm
[08:39] <scientes> dalek_, use autopatcher, which is way better than windows update
[08:40] <Unknown0BC> The prices on AMD seems a lot lower than for intel yet they perform very well.
[08:40] <Squall5668> scientes, yes i know about installation, i just didn't recall updates overwriting the mbr
[08:40] <scientes> dalek_, also, MSFT are asshole, like apple ppl, XP would never rewrite mbr, except on installation
[08:40] <scientes> Squall5668, yeah, i thought the same
[08:40] <scientes> I dont think it does either
[08:40] <Unknown0BC> Are the changes better for problems install on AMD ? Someone said intel works better, generally speaking.
[08:41] <scientes> dalek_, does /boot/grub/grub.cfg use UUID's for rootfs
[08:41] <scientes> dalek_, like root=UUID=jdfkljadskfl
[08:41] <scientes> Unknown0BC, that is a bunch of FUD, everything works on both
[08:42] <linux> hello
[08:42] <dalek_> I have to make a live USB flashdrive first. There is no DVD/CD drive in this netbook
[08:42] <Unknown0BC> scientes, I remember some years back you had a bit more trouble on AMD.
[08:42] <scientes> Unknown0BC, also, AMD helps coreboot
[08:43] <linux> you can download a live USB
[08:43] <scientes> Unknown0BC, not at all, main limitations of GNU/Linux: BIOS, graphics 3D drivers, broadcom wireless driver
[08:43] <scientes> Unknown0BC, amd came out with amd64 first, which its use on linux cause them to earn tons of profit
[08:44] <supson> anyone here uses bitcoins?
[08:44] <scientes> !ot | supson
[08:44] <supson>  ...
[08:44] <hiexpo> wow
[08:44] <shaibn> Anyone knows?
[08:45] <scientes> shaibn, do they show up in "older kernels" or the main grub window?
[08:45] <scientes> shaibn, cause it will boot kernels/OS's on other partitions
[08:46] <scientes> and auto-detect them
[08:47] <damarquezg> ...
[08:48] <shaibn> scientes, oh ok .. I do have an older HDD connected to this PC .. so you're saying it recognized that old HDD and that's why they show up in the menu list?
[08:48] <Unknown0BC> I might get a netbook whithout a DVD-drive, so I plan on booting from a pendrive. Can the installation shrink a windows partition ? To repartition, yet keeping the original installation of windows ?
[08:48] <scientes> shaibn, that is likely, yes
[08:49] <shaibn> scientes, I noticed it will do that even if the older HDD isn't mounted... how can I have it ignore /dev/sdb1 ?
[08:49] <scientes> Unknown0BC, yes, the installer can shrink a windows partition, or you can also install to SD or usb driver (although this is much slower)
[08:49] <dalek_> Unknown0BC, Yes, you can.
[08:49] <scientes> shaibn, look at the files in /etc/grub, which are compiled into /boot/grub/grub.cfg when you run update-grub
[08:49] <Squall5668> Unknown0BC you should shrink windows partitions from the windows tools to lower your chances of data loss, but yes you can shrink it like scientes said
[08:50] <scientes> Squall5668, now gparted can move data on ntfs, so its not as limited as it use to be
[08:50] <dalek_> There was no problem shrinking the win7 partition on my friend's win7 netbook.
[08:50] <Unknown0BC> Can I do a basic install from a pendrive without a network connection ?
[08:50] <hubertus_> anybody using smuxi and knows how to filter join/leave messages here ?
[08:51] <Squall5668> scientes i am aware of that, but im sick of loosing stuff
[08:51] <scientes> most imp is that you cant resize a partition if it wasn't unmounted correctly (if you unplugged the windows, instead of shutting down before install)
[08:51]  * Unknown0BC catches tips
[08:51] <scientes> you should always backup before installs
[08:51] <Unknown0BC> :)
[08:51] <scientes> and in general
[08:53] <Unknown0BC> I would like to do a basic install form a pendrive without a network connection if possible. Then later get all the repositories on my HDD and install more from there. I would like to be able to uninstall and install packages from my HDD without the need for an internet connection.
[08:53] <scientes> Unknown0BC, ubuntu doesn't require an internet connection, although you might want to periodically copy security update to the comp to install
[08:53] <mofaph> #join /debian
[08:54] <scientes> Unknown0BC, if you use synaptic you can save changes, and then use another computer to download the files, you can also manually download packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <scientes> or download the alternative DVD, for a large offline collection of software Unknown0BC
[08:55] <linux> kk
[08:55] <scientes> Squall5668, i'd just whipe the windows :P
[08:56] <Unknown0BC> scientes, great. However, my last Ubuntu install gave a lot of trouble with using repositories from DVD. It went smoothly when doing it all from the net though. I suppose this problem has been solved. It mounted the wrong device the whole time. Took  long time to get a work-around.
[08:56] <scientes> almost suggested that....
[08:56] <scientes> Unknown0BC, use apt-cdrom
[08:56] <scientes> aka apt-cdrom add
[08:57] <Unknown0BC> ah. Yeah. Well thanks. I think I am going off the the shop to get me that netbook. Or maybe a notebook.  Seems it is'nt really.
[08:58] <Unknown0BC> :)
[08:58] <scientes> tr0n, bullshit, netbooks have the best battery lifes
[08:58] <scientes> however the E-350 AMDs have some of the best graphics on a low-energy system
[08:58] <Unknown0BC> oooo. I am getting me a netbook for that good battery life.
[08:58] <scientes> ..for x86 that is
[08:58] <tr0n> i know someone who has one, the battery stopped holding a charge aftera year
[08:58]  * Unknown0BC catches buying tips.
[08:58] <scientes> tr0n, well, you need a 6 cell, also windows eats battery alot more
[08:59] <scientes> also, SSDs are definitely the way to go
[08:59] <Unknown0BC> what is SSD ?
[08:59] <scientes> instead of those harddrives they put on them now for stupid windows-related reasons
[08:59] <tr0n> better to wait for the spark linux tablet ;)
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a usb drive from arch linux
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> using unetbootin
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> and I keep getting error no configuration file found
[08:59] <Hail_Spacecake> and none of the fixes I find by googling are working for me
[09:00] <scientes> Hail_Spacecake, just use cat /path/to/the.iso > /dev/thedrive
[09:00] <scientes> be careful to get the target right however, and you have to be root
[09:00] <Unknown0BC> Do netbooks generally come out with Solid State Drives ?
[09:00] <Hail_Spacecake> scientes, do I want the drive or the partition?
[09:00] <Unknown0BC> (   :D   )
[09:00] <scientes> Hail_Spacecake, the drive
[09:01] <scientes> be careful you dont while your hard drive however Hail_Spacecake
[09:01] <shaibn> scientes, thanks! that helped me :) What I did was just add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true ; to /etc/default/grub
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: Make *absolutely* sure you have the correct device before doing that. And while cat and shell redirection works, I'd generally go with dd.
[09:02] <Unknown0BC> well am I ready to go shop ?
[09:02] <scientes> Jordan_U, so did I, but dd's syntax is wierd, and if and of are too similar
[09:02] <Unknown0BC> :D
[09:03] <scientes> and you have to use count= to get decent speed
[09:03] <scientes> *bs=
[09:03] <Unknown0BC> This would be my first brand-new computer.  Time for a change in life !
[09:03] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX #Be absolutely sure that sdX is correct, as it's the drive whose contents you are about to destroy
[09:03] <Unknown0BC> adios guys. Thanks for the input.
[09:04] <scientes> this actually happened to Linus Torvalds when he was developing Linux
[09:04] <scientes> and was a big part of him making it self-hosting
[09:04] <scientes> he whiped his whole system in the early days
[09:04] <scientes> (this was after GNU was quite a ways along)
[09:09] <mi3> hello
[09:10] <hiexpo> mi3, hi what you need?
[09:11] <mi3> nothing, hiexpo
[09:13] <mx> hey
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Unknown0BC: If you didn't know, there are companies that sell computers with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[09:15] <puneetgoyal> hello, I am using Ubuntu 10.10 and my software centre is not working
[09:15] <puneetgoyal> I tried googling it
[09:16] <krnl> i've a vps. when i type "df -h" in console, i get a lof of varrun and varlock type filesystem but all in 96M size, and all are mounted to /var/lock and /var/run. thus i dont know how much free space i have on my "real" hd. how can i determine it?
[09:16] <puneetgoyal> but it is not giving me any error too and all the problems that are listed in google are with some error......
[09:16] <mx> any body ?
[09:16] <mx> fuck
[09:16] <clone1018> most likely the top one
[09:16] <mx> hahah
[09:17] <hubertus_> usually your harddisk is /dev/sda1
[09:17] <hydrox24> mx: just keep the language down on this channel please, it's designed to be family friendly.
[09:18] <almoxarife> puneetgoyal: not working how?
[09:19] <gebbione> hi , after restore i see my screen stuck with some of the graphical elements visible but the unlock screen is not coming up ... anything i can do?
[09:19] <Tm_T> mx: language, please
[09:20] <hydrox24> gebbione: This is persistant despite reboots?
[09:20] <keno10> i need help with minecraft
[09:21] <gebbione> if i reboot i loose all the windows/application i had before hibernate ... and yes i am restoring from hibernation
[09:21] <keno10> it dont run tested with sun and open java
[09:21] <tr0n> ot | keno10
[09:21] <hydrox24> tr0n: I think it may well be on topic
[09:21] <gebbione> most of the times it works ... but sometimes it gets stuck for a few seconds before coming up with the unlock screen ... now it wont come up since 20 min
[09:21] <FourDollars> keno10: What is your java version?
[09:22] <FourDollars> $ java -version
[09:22] <FourDollars> java version "1.6.0_23"
[09:22] <FourDollars> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre11-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)
[09:22] <FourDollars> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
[09:22] <FourDollars> keno10: I can use this to play MineCraft.
[09:22] <FloodBot1> FourDollars: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:22] <hydrox24> gebbione: Hibernation is a continuing issue for linux as per a lack of support from computer manufacturers (It's known to be temperamental even in Windows) so I would have to simply recommend not using hibernate
[09:22] <linux__> a
[09:23] <hydrox24> gebbione: Alternatively, look into your laptops hardware and see if there are patches/workarounds for your HW (HardWare)
[09:23] <keno10> /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.7.0_04/jre/bin/java
[09:23] <linux_> hello
[09:23] <almoxarife> gebbione: what's wrong with 'suspend'? same issue?
[09:24] <keno10> java version "1.7.0_04-ea"
[09:24] <keno10> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-ea-b17)
[09:24] <keno10> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b18, mixed mode)
[09:24] <gebbione> almoxarife: my ubuntu box is a desktop ... and suspend is like leaving it on
[09:24] <sshd> hello
[09:24] <linux__> hello
[09:24] <sshd> i use ubuntu 12.04
[09:25] <sshd> after last upgrade i have problem with ssh
[09:25] <almoxarife> gebbione: suspend works on a desktop as well
[09:25] <sshd> i can not connect to any devices or servers via ssh
[09:25] <Myrtti> sshd: you might want to try #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <gebbione> almoxarife: doesnt stop the fans though ... i think
[09:26] <gebbione> almoxarife: it is like always wasting a lot of electricity as compared to hibernate
[09:26] <almoxarife> gebbione: it does stop everything except a trickle of voltage
[09:27] <gebbione> almoxarife: i ll have to try ... but anyway ... is there maybe some sort of short cut to bring up the login/unlock screen? something like ctrl alt esc in winzoz
[09:28] <hubertus_> maybe alt-f7
[09:28] <almoxarife> gebbione: probably not, the issue is restoring from 'hybernate', and it sounds like your desktop does not
[09:30] <gebbione> almoxarife: it does all the times ... for some reasons not this time ... (i hope it is not a ram issue) but in general i always experience something weird ... even when the energy saving kicks in ... then i go back to move the mouse .... the previous screeens come up (multimonitors) i can see al windows and then after some seconds the unlock screen comes up
[09:32] <FourDollars> keno10: Try openjdk-6-jre
[09:36] <morphix> hey guys
[09:36] <AbstractAce> hey whats this thing in the terminal that lets us edit sounds?
[09:36] <AbstractAce> someting with a
[09:37] <Benkinooby2> hi, my graphic card (laptop) can not handle two monitors, so i want to use only the (bigger) exernal one... but when i diable the laptop monitor in the display menu, the external montor won't get signals... any help ideas? google wasn't very useful until now...
[09:38] <gordon39> hi there
[09:46] <Barbo91> #chat-ubuntu-it
[09:46] <LjL> Barbo91: it's /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:48] <aleray> hi, I have created a bootable stick but unfortunatly my computer doesn't recognize it at boot, although it mounts well otherwise. Am I missing something?
[09:49] <mi3> aleray, it seems you forgot to change the boot order
[09:50] <mi3> the primary boot order should be your stick, then your hdd incase you want the stick to boot
[09:50] <aleray> mi3, that's the problem: the stick doesn't show up in the device list
[09:55] <fracting> Hello, libreoffice 3.4.4 from ubuntu 11.10 official repo works for me, and libreoffice 3.5.1 from ppa also works for me, but after i install Lo3.5.1, remove Lo3.5.1 and reinstall Lo3.4.1, it crash at startup. Should this problem consider a bug? This issue prevent me to reproduce my recently reported bug 966046
[09:58] <kiga> ciao
[10:00] <milad> hi
[10:00] <st1> anyone got hibernation working with swap file?
[10:01] <carlesoriol_> st1, yes. With no changes or special configurations
[10:01] <carlesoriol_> st1, in a lot of computers
[10:02] <st1> carlesoriol_: really? not even updating grub and initramfs?
[10:04] <st1> carlesoriol_:  are you using uswsusp or kernel version?
[10:05] <QA> hey all, anyone running cacti?
[10:05] <research4oscar> should i install proftp as standalone or inetd?
[10:06] <carlesoriol_> st1, no changes at all. Usign diferent kernl versions
[10:06] <research4oscar> at most two people will be connecting through ftp but probably transferring files throughout the day.
[10:08] <st1> carlesoriol_:  can you pm me the result of "cat /proc/cmdline" and "cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume" ? if you are on a computer that's using swap file
[10:08] <kiga> ciao
[10:10] <kiga> !list
[10:18] <rage> Is there an easy way to echo commands into an ssh session from a local machine? Something like echo "sh memory" > ssh router ?
[10:18] <rage> and get the output back?
[10:23] <hubertus_> simply do a ssh hostname command
[10:24] <puneetgoyal> almoxarife: sorry was away...it just stops working...didnt gave any error
[10:24] <quiel> is anyone here using midnight commander (mc)? I'm trying to change the colors, but the file ".mc/ini" is not respected by the program
[10:24] <rage> hubertus_: Works well for Linux sshds, no so well for Cisco IOS
[10:24] <icambridge> Anyone know why I would get "touch: setting times of `rdsfa': No such file or directory" when doing "touch /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/expose/rdsfa"?
[10:26] <hubertus_> rage: whats the issue with cisco ?
[10:28] <rage> hubertus_: If I try to string commands together it breaks
[10:29] <CalvinMcGee> I'm a new developer at this company and we have a deploy script. I would like to see the sources to the script, where do you specify paths to general commands?
[10:29] <rage> hubertus_: For example: enable, show memory
[10:29] <hubertus_> rage: so it works with basic one-word commands ?
[10:29] <rage> hubertus_: Yes
[10:29] <llutz> rage: ssh router "sh yourcommand"
[10:30] <rage> llutz: Can you write shell scripts on cisco ios?
[10:30] <llutz> rage: idk
[10:30] <rage> llutz: Yes that would solve all my problems :-)
[10:30] <rage> llutz: I'm shell scripting this thing from my ubuntu machine
[10:32] <hubertus_> rage: can it be an issue with the quotes ?
[10:32] <rage> I know it can be done. I've done it quite some time ago. I've just completely forgotten how :-S. I had to ssh into a ancient AIX machine and type commands into a non-scriptable interactive program
[10:32] <rage> hubertus_: Perhaps
[10:33] <rage> hubertus_: Just tried, '' "", no joy
[10:34] <rage> hubertus_: Cant use none as the shell would interpret the ; as a EOL
[10:34] <hubertus_> and without any quotes ?
[10:34] <hubertus_> ssh hiserver ls -l works on linux as well as ssh hiserver 'ls -l'
[10:35] <rage> hubertus_: Nope, as expected bash (without quotes) sees the ; and treats it as EOL
[10:36] <rage> hubertus_: then attempts to run sh memory
[10:36] <rage> hubertus_: Which fails obviously :-) since that is a cisco command
[10:36] <Mango_Man> Would anyone possibly know how to fix this broken package error? http://pastebin.com/mzv2EP1N I tried this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5962046&postcount=9) solution on the ubuntuforums, but it didn't work
[10:38] <hubertus_> rage: sorry ran out of ideas - and no cisco at home ....
[10:38] <rage> hubertus_: Thanks for the help anyway. Always appreciated :-)
[10:39] <rage> Next router is definitely going to be a Linux router. This particular off the shelf solution has done anything but save time :-)
[10:42] <Erquint> Can someone here help an ubuntu-noob with an uneasy question?
[10:43] <exe> can some1 here please help an ubuntu-noob [first time with ubuntu seedbox] with setup auto-dl irssi please ?
[10:45] <exe> plz?
[10:45] <Erquint> -_-
[10:45] <Mango_Man> o_-
[10:46] <prodnix> Hi guys, I need an idiot proof way of setting up a email server, I need it to receive and read mail via a UI of any sort, I have bought the domain and changed the A record to my cloud serverws IP but I cant seem to get it working. Any help will be hugely appreciated
[10:50] <prodnix> All the guides online are too technical and not very noob friendly
[10:53] <olegb> prodnix: maybe because setting up a emailserver right is a technical task and shouldn't be done by a noob :-)
[10:53] <prodnix> I had a feeling someone would say that.
[10:54] <research4oscar> what is the command to change a folders group setting
[10:54] <prodnix> Im not a total beginner but the guides are still quite confusing. My experience with DNS is letting me down i think
[10:57] <Erquint> Ok. Maybe if i type a big message -- someone would notice me: I am using Ubuntu 11.10 for like a couple of months now and i am REALLLLLY tired of permission system. I made changes to "sudoers" file, but it seems to be working only for terminal and i know i can make everything using it(and often do), but it eats my time hard. I am the only user of PC and give no phat buddy about security risks. It's just came to a state when i am angered
[10:57] <Erquint> so much that i just want to log off and never log back in Ubuntu again. Worst thing is that sometimes when i lack some privilege  Ubuntu DOESN"T prompt me for password and i have NO qqqing way to explain it that i am the boss here! Do somebody of you know how to override this behavior? Cause i like most things about Ubuntu and feel comfortable with it, but i desperately need to be a boss of my PC!
[10:58] <Erquint> Will rooting remove all that?
[10:59] <olegb> Erquint: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:03] <shawny> Can anyone suggest a simple SIP proxy server that can run on 8.04?
[11:04] <anwaya> If the ls command in terminal shows a directory highlighted in green and it's name written in blue , what does it mean..?
[11:05] <fidel> anwaya: colors heavily depend on your terminal-config
[11:05] <TeamRocket1233c> Morning guys! Won't be on very long.
[11:05] <research4oscar> what is the command to create a folder with a specific owner and group
[11:09] <olegb> research4oscar: mkdir && chgrp && chown
[11:13] <eypal> anybody from Canonical here?
[11:13] <Zizzu> i am from italy
[11:16] <Bartzy> Is there anyway to target a window that is minimized to tray (not in the taskbar) , with xdotool for example? wmctrl -xl doesn't find minimized-to-tray windows.
[11:16] <scotty^> I'm currently using XChat-GNOME on Lucid.  I'll soon be setting up some Precise systems and am wondering what would be best suited to Unity - XChat-GNOME or plain XChat?
[11:17] <ikonia> scotty^: try them, you can remove the one you don't like
[11:18] <scotty^> Yeah, I was kinda hoping to skip that step :) But it's not a big deal.
[11:19] <orflon> hello, I have a working ubuntu 7.04 on my machine. My problem is that I don't have a cd drive, is it preferable to make upgrades till the latest or install it from scratch? (is there any other way apart from usb? through the current system..)
[11:20] <scotty^> If I want to talk to the GNOME folks about Evince, are they in #gnome on Freenode?
[11:20] <Squall5668> orflom: install from scratch, usb :)
[11:20] <orflon> Squall5668, isn't there any other way apart from usb? I'm afraid a bit of the procedure and issues of usb-install
[11:20] <ikonia> scotty^: the gnome website lists the offical IRC channels
[11:21] <scotty^> ikonia: Cool.  Thanks mate.
[11:21] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Squall5668 : LiveCD or LiveDVD.
[11:21] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, I don't have a cd drive.
[11:21] <Squall5668> TeamRocket1233c he said he has no drive
[11:21] <orflon> can't that be done through the current system?
[11:22] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Squall5668 : I  usually use LiveCD's as they'll work on a PC no matter what.
[11:22] <orflon> at least skip some other stages like 7.09
[11:22] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Squall5668: Web install, if that's possible?
[11:22] <eypal> anybody from Canonical here? I have been trying to contact Canonical with a sort of business related thing but haven't gotten any replies :(
[11:22] <scotty^> Hmm, seems GNOME are seeking donations to "Help us make 2012 the year of accessibility!"
[11:22] <orflon> is there a web install ?
[11:23] <ikonia> scotty^: not really something #ubuntu is interested in
[11:23] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: If it's possible, I read something about a Solaris web install.
[11:23] <ikonia> eypal: IRC is not the medium for that sort of thing
[11:23] <ikonia> eypal: I'm sure you'll get an email if it's appropriate
[11:23] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, what about ubuntu?
[11:23] <scotty^> well not officially, but some of us users might be.
[11:24] <scotty^> but I'm getting off-topic
[11:24] <ikonia> scotty^: this is a support channel, so it's not anything to do with this channel
[11:24] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: Looking that up right now.
[11:24] <orflon> thanks mate
[11:29] <Squall5668> orflon, until TeamRocket1233c find whatever it is he is looking for, might i suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation the part about "Installation without a CD"?
[11:29] <orflon> Squall5668, i'm reading that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[11:29] <orflon> seems that it does what I want.
[11:29] <TeamRocket1233c> Hopefully this should be of help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:30] <eax> when is 12.XX get in in public Beta?
[11:30] <orflon> should I need an ethernet connection for that? is wireless dangerous in terms of drivers etc.?
[11:31] <TeamRocket1233c> eax: I think 12.04 beta's already out. 12.04 final release is due out the 26th.
[11:32] <Lowfox> Can I get some help with grub and btrfs
[11:33] <TeamRocket1233c> orflon: A wired connection would be a safe bet.
[11:34] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, in the tutorial it talks about a initrd file, but I can't find it.
[11:34] <curiousx> ciao a tutti
[11:34] <curiousx> !it | curiousx
[11:34] <sipior> Lowfox: easiest if you ask a specific question
[11:35] <orflon> TeamRocket1233c, ok found it.
[11:35] <curiousx> !ask | Lowfox
[11:37] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G now, I'll BBL. Bye! -wave-
[11:38] <randomqwerty> how can I keep ssh server installed and still never start it at boot but only manually?
[11:38] <orpras> Hello!
[11:39] <curiousx> aloha
[11:39] <Lowfox> I updated ocelot to penguin beta 1 and it fucked up my grub after using boot repair from penguin livecd - it now says no operating system. Can somebody take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901990/
[11:40] <Tm_T> Lowfox: please watch your language
[11:40] <soreau> randomqwerty: afaik, installed services are started at boot up. You can 'chmod -x /etc/init.d/service' to stop it from being executable, +x to re-enable it
[11:40] <Lowfox> sry Tm_T
[11:41] <Lowfox> no harm intended
[11:41] <Lowfox> "it broke my grub..."
[11:41] <Lowfox> :)
[11:41] <randomqwerty> soreau: that would also stop me from using service ssh start, to start the deamon when I want, wouldn't it?
[11:42] <Squall5668> root
[11:42] <soreau> randomqwerty: yes, you'd have to reset the executable flag before starting it
[11:47] <Dj_FlyBy> is there some kind of limit to the size of a partition inside Ubuntu. I just bought 4 2.5TB hdd's and I keep getting errors when trying to make them into 2.5TB partitions (tried both NTFS & EXT4)
[11:47] <stevegjacobs> join #joomla-dev
[11:47] <stevegjacobs> join /#joomla-dev
[11:47] <Pici> stevegjacobs: /join #channel
[11:47] <linux> 0
[11:47] <linux> hello
[11:47] <linux> anynoe?
[11:47] <Lowfox>  I need some assistance please: I updated ocelot to penguin beta1 and it broke my grub after using boot repair from penguin livecd - it now says no operating system. Can somebody take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/901990/
[11:48] <linux> exit
[11:48] <ikonia> Lowfox: why did you not use an ubuntu CD with a compatible grub ?
[11:49] <Lowfox> ikoneia: like an ocelot one?
[11:50] <Lowfox> I didn't know it was necessary
[11:51] <Guest76203> hello
[11:52] <jayar> how do i find what drive i want to mount, via ssh?
[11:52] <ispirto> hello, is there a way I can drop packages starting with some string by iptables?
[11:52] <jayar> i know its sudo mount /dev/sd? /media/160gb but dunno which disk it is
[11:54] <detch1> when i enter phpmyadmin after i write the password                            ---------   Connection for controluser as defined in your configuration failed
[11:56] <Dj_FlyBy> is there some kind of limit to the size of a partition inside Ubuntu. I just bought 4 2.5TB hdd's and I keep getting errors when trying to make them into 2.5TB partitions (tried both NTFS & EXT4). Any suggestions?
[11:58] <jayar> Dj_FlyBy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[11:58] <jayar> detch1: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-fix-phpmyadmin-error-connection-for-controluser-as-defined-in-your-configuration-failed/
[12:01] <ldiamond> I'm trying to get that layout right: http://jsfiddle.net/ldiamond/UfG4J/
[12:01] <ldiamond> Basically I want the footer to stay like that, hidden below the page
[12:01] <ldiamond> the page content should take up 100% of the screen
[12:01] <ldiamond> The few issues I have is with the fixed header, I need to get the content to start below it rather than under it.
[12:02] <Dj_FlyBy> jayar: thanks....  sadly I am just not up to recompiling the kernel though.
[12:02] <ldiamond> I considered adding a dummy div to take up the space but it seems rather like a bad practice
[12:02] <rns> is there a way to save my terminal tabs?
[12:02] <ldiamond> The other issue is that if I add padding or margins, everything gets messed up. I.e. the 100% width now becomes 100% + whatever margin/padding I add
[12:03] <okanbasoglu> hi
[12:03] <sipior> ldiamond: i think you've mistaken this for a web development channel :-)
[12:03] <ldiamond> oh crap, I though this was #css
[12:03] <ldiamond> :p
[12:03] <ldiamond> wrong window
[12:03] <jayar> heheh
[12:03] <Squall5668> hahaha
[12:03] <escott> rns, in what sense? tried screen?
[12:04] <okanbasoglu> does anyone know if ubuntu has iptables service?
[12:04] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, you are probably hitting a gpt/mbr limit
[12:04] <sipior> okanbasoglu: yes, it does.
[12:04] <rns> escott, when I restart I would like to be able to open up the 15 files (each in a tab) in the terminal, without manually opening them all up.
[12:04] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: I didn't even know there was a limits, lol
[12:04] <escott> rns, you'll have to write a script to do that
[12:05] <jayar> i thought ufw took over for iptables in 8.04
[12:05] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, there are limits on the filesystem sizes (which are tunable) but based on where you are hitting i suspect an mbr issue, and that your partition table just cant make a partition that large
[12:05] <escott> jayar, ufw uses iptables
[12:06] <okanbasoglu> but it gives me unrecognized service when i tried to get status
[12:06] <danideko_> hey evil 101
[12:06] <jayar> oh i thought it replaced it
[12:06] <Evil101> wassup DK
[12:06] <jayar> althought you could still use iptables, ufw was easier or somethin
[12:06] <escott> jayar, iptables will never go away
[12:07] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: these are brand new drives used for storage... there is no distro on them
[12:07] <okanbasoglu> so i should restart ufw service instead ?
[12:07] <danideko_> wat u doing
[12:07] <Evil101> am doin yo mamma
[12:08] <Mad202> well ur mama was doing ma dog
[12:08] <smokie_> wow bad mom....
[12:08] <smokie_> can anyone help me out with installing a theme/appearance into ubuntu 11?
[12:08] <Evil101> While ma dog wz doin yr dad
[12:09] <Mad202> eww gay ape
[12:09] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, (a) check what kind of partition table you have. is it gpt or mbr/msdos? (b) you can check these limits but they are not likely the cause http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2#File_system_limits
[12:09] <okanbasoglu> all i am trying to do is share my wireless connection to eth0
[12:09] <Evil101> yr dad z a gay ape???
[12:09] <okanbasoglu> i found couple of iptables commands to execute
[12:10] <okanbasoglu> but it says i need to restart ip tables
[12:10] <Oer> Evil101, Mad202 , please stop the bad language from same ip.
[12:11] <escott> okanbasoglu, there is a ufw service which you can start but it doesn't have a running process. it just loads the iptables rules into the kernel and exits
[12:11] <okanbasoglu> hmm
[12:11] <okanbasoglu> thanks escott
[12:11] <Mad202> fu
[12:12] <okanbasoglu> than i think its fine to just stop and start the ufw service
[12:12] <escott> okanbasoglu, you can run "sudo iptables -L" to print your current rule set. if its more than 3 lines your ufw rules are already loaded
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, Thanx.
[12:13] <okanbasoglu> yes escott it gives lots of lines but not the ones i added
[12:13] <escott> okanbasoglu, are you trying to add custom rules? those go in /etc/ufw/*.rules
[12:14] <okanbasoglu> escott, what i am trying to add is "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE"
[12:14] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: There was no partition table on the drives (brand new). I was attempting to this with the "disk utility", but from the way you are talking I should be doing it another way. I've never made a gpt partition table so I guess I better start there. All the other drives in the server are either 1.5TB or 2TB
[12:15] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, you should use a dedicated tool for partitioning, either gparted (gui) or gdisk or parted (cli)
[12:16] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, so that should probably be put in /etc/ufw/after.rules
[12:17] <escott> okanbasoglu, ^^ not Dj_FlyBy
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> escott, i think uwf/after.rules for me
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> thanks man
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> ill check this one
[12:17] <okanbasoglu> thanks a lot for your help
[12:18] <escott> okanbasoglu, also you need to adjust the rule to apply to the correct chain. that may be the real problem
[12:18] <orflon> I just installed from netboot 12.04 with no problems during install.  I read somewhere that's it's a graphics issue. any clues?
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !precise | orflon
[12:19] <smokie_> so can anyone help me with installing a new Theme to my ubuntu desktop or am i in the wrong place?
[12:19] <sysf1> 请问中文如何进入？不是？/join #ubuntu-cn ?
[12:19] <orflon> lotuspsychje, and that means..?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> orflon: join the ubuntu 12.04 channel for support
[12:20] <orflon> ah ok thanks
[12:20] <escott> okanbasoglu, for instance I wanted to add a rule to the OUTPUT chain, but since ufw binds to that I added my rule to the ufw-before-output chain instead
[12:21] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: already I assume the problem is something I am unfamiliar with. With disk utility it shows the hdd as being 2.5TB but in gparted it says 2.27TB
[12:21] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, thats TB vs TiB
[12:22] <anand_> hello
[12:23] <hot2trot> this is terrible, but does anyone know the mac or osx channel?  I tried #osx and #mac, neither of which let me join...
[12:23] <hot2trot> i'm a regular UBUNTU user I swear
[12:23] <escott> !alis | hot2trot
[12:23] <anand_> i need a help. how can i check whether theres is ipvs module installed or not? any help will be great
[12:23] <hot2trot> thank you
[12:23] <hot2trot> !alis
[12:24] <escott> anand_, lsmod | grep ipv
[12:24] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: ohhhhh.. well, either way I can learn about that later. For now it has worked out perfectly and now all drives are partitioned and formatted and ready for use.  Thanks
[12:24] <okanbasoglu> escott, let me check that
[12:24] <sadjow_> I'll ask a good thing...
[12:24] <anand_> escott: it show that i have ip_vs loaded
[12:24] <sadjow_> Please remove the unity in the next version of ubuntu. Put something better. Please.
[12:25] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, base 1000 vs base 1024. they market using the base 1000, but the normal base for block devices is 1024=2^10
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !unity | sadjow_
[12:26] <anand_> escott: i am trying to configure LVS on my ubuntu 10.04 but i am unable to get a reply from the real server can u help me on that?
[12:26] <escott> anand_, i dont know what LVS is?
[12:26] <tony__> guten tag liebe ubuntu community ^^
[12:27] <escott> !de | tony__
[12:27] <anand_> any one here with some working knowledge on how to create a Linux virtual server ..i need some help
[12:27] <sadjow_> !notunity | sadjow
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> sadjow_:you can always install lubuntu-desktop or gnome-shell
[12:29] <WilsonBradley> Anyone else use Live Linux boot of a USB  Persistance / Casper-rw ? Simple question.. Can I increase the Filesystem size? Trying to do an  update on it and it says it's to small to do a 1+gb partial update. Maybe I should just download the LATEST build?
[12:29] <escott> WilsonBradley, you dont want to do a big update on a persistent usb
[12:29] <wrektjet> msg nickserv identify tziona26
[12:30] <Squall5668> i suggest you change that
[12:30] <WilsonBradley> Ya, prob better to download a nightly Ubuntu ISO
[12:32] <liang> hi,all, when I install somethings, I have got err: No package 'gtk+-2.0' found , who can tell me how to install gtk+-2.0
[12:33] <curiousx> liang: try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:34] <escott> liang, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[12:34] <supson> guys
[12:34] <supson> can someone go to https://sealswithclubs.org/ plz
[12:34] <supson> and tell me if it works for them
[12:35] <supson> i get a security warning
[12:35] <supson> that i never had before for this site
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> supson: firefox warns for some https sites
[12:35] <supson> does the same with chrome and ff
[12:35] <supson> Ive used this site a lot
[12:35] <curiousx> supson: this site dont have a valid ssl certificate
[12:35] <supson> i did just 5 minutes ago
[12:36] <supson> curiousx, lots of site dont, and i dont get this warning
[12:36] <supson> This is probably not the site that you are looking for!
[12:36] <supson> You attempted to reach sealswithclubs.org, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself as sealswithclubs.eu. This may be caused by a misconfiguration on the server or by something more serious. An attacker on your network could be trying to get you to visit a fake (and potentially harmful) version of sealswithclubs.org. You should not proceed.
[12:37] <sacarlson> supson: it's certificate isn't matching it's site name so will flag
[12:37] <liang> curiousx, ok, try it
[12:37] <curiousx> verisign give you a valid certificate to your site in order to dont warning aboout the certificate
[12:37] <curiousx> but you have to pay =P
[12:37] <supson> but I was using the site just 5 minutes ago with no troubvle
[12:37] <supson> why does it do this now
[12:38] <liang> escott, thx I am waiting the installing
[12:38] <fidel> supson: i doubt we can answer that for sure
[12:38] <sacarlson> supson: the cert I see is for sealswithclubs.eu
[12:38] <Squall5668> supson this is not ubuntu related. 5 minutes ago the server settings where correct, now someone messed them up, it happens
[12:38] <supson> oh shit
[12:38] <supson> i thought i was on bitcoin
[12:38] <supson> channel
[12:38] <supson> haha
[12:38] <FloodBot1> supson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <supson> sorry guys
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> lol, the best ubuntu support happens when ops are ayway
[12:39] <Pici> riight.
[12:39] <supson> sorry guys
[12:39] <ikonia> supson: not a problem
[12:39] <Guest11822> who can explain what is ubuntu?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu
[12:40] <Guest14100> i was setting postfix dovecot and mysql for mail server but my smtp server not running after that and i can't send message .. can you help me ?
[12:41] <curiousx> i think noone can explain, you have to use it the more you can to figure out what is it, i thin isnt like flying but is some like that =P
[12:41] <adha> i was setting postfix dovecot and mysql for mail server but my smtp server not running after that and i can't send message .. can you help me ?
[12:42] <Guest11822> what differents between ubuntu and backtrack?
[12:42] <ikonia> Guest11822: I'd do a little more research backtrack is based on ubuntu but is targeted at different functions,
[12:42] <fidel> Guest11822: backtrack is afaik a live-cd
[12:43] <fidel> consider reading in wikipedia.org - as it offers tons of structured informations
[12:43] <Guest11822> who know "anonymous" team? can explain to me who is them ?
[12:43] <curiousx> Guest11822: the desktop and the software by default and the kernel
[12:44] <yzhd> Hi guys
[12:44] <fidel> Guest11822: how is that ubuntu-specific question?
[12:44] <yzhd> Is there anyone here that can help me ? (5 mins)
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> fidel: because backtrack has now an ubuntu variant
[12:45] <fidel> lotuspsychje: i was talking about the anon question
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> fidel: ok my bad m8
[12:45] <escott> !ot | Guest11822
[12:45] <fidel> should have pointed that more clearly
[12:46] <Guest11822> how ubuntu can transformation be backtrack?
[12:46] <fidel> Guest11822: try to rephrase - as this question isnt really clear - at least to me
[12:46] <ikonia> Guest11822: what ?
[12:47] <root____> exit
[12:47] <Squall5668> Guest11822: what is your native language? maybe there is a support channel more suited for you?
[12:47] <Guest11822> i'm sorry..
[12:48] <yzhd> I am going to instal ubuntu 11.10 on my windows vista PC. I have ISO downloaded, and I have a DVD+R. I'm going to burn the iso on the dvd and install it.. but I have a catch.. I shrinked my hard drive yesterday 40 GB.. and I want to install UBUNTU on that shrinked partition.. nothing else. I must not lose data, as I don't have anything to back it up on. Can anyone help me here ?
[12:48] <jrib> yzhd: leave the space you want ubuntu to use unpartitioned and then tell the installer to use the unpartitioned space
[12:49] <jrib> yzhd: by the way.  If you do not back up your data, then you do not mind losing it.
[12:49] <Ool> Hi, How to show or not the choice: "other users.. " in lightdm to log in
[12:49] <Ool> ?
[12:49] <escott> yzhd, there are lots of free online ways to backup crucial files. if you "must not lose data" and "you have no backup ability" I would suggest you lock your computer in a fire proof vault and never turn it on
[12:49] <Guest11822> thank you :D
[12:49] <kiga> !list
[12:54] <fdumpling> Hell MrBean
[12:54] <yzhd> I know, I can backup online.. but I have slow internet connection
[12:54] <yzhd> there like.. only 5 % chance of losing data right ?
[12:55] <fidel> yzhd: as pointed out earlier: if you consider your data important - backup them
[12:55] <adha> yzhd : you had better prepare a free partition and install on it.. move your data from that partition to your windows..
[12:55] <fidel> and dont calculate on % chances of data-loss
[12:55] <fidel> if you dont backup them - at least expect that you may loose something.
[12:56] <escott> yzhd, that probability can range from -8.632% to 469.37%
[12:56] <fidel> ;)
[12:56] <yzhd> have any of you tried the method I'm going to do ?
[12:56] <yzhd> shrink, then install on that partition ?
[12:56] <w83> hi, stupid gimp 2.7.5
[12:56] <escott> yzhd, yes and successfully many times, but i've also done it many times and know what to look for.
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> yzhd, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning/copying to USB?
[12:57] <yzhd> no
[12:57] <fdumpling> Hello ,MrBean
[12:57] <yzhd> doing it right now
[12:57] <w83> after this repository mess I can't even get 2.6 working and the themes are messed up :(
[12:57] <escott> yzhd, it sounds like you have passed the big hurdle, but we can't verify that
[12:57] <yzhd> what is tthe correct md5 ?
[12:57] <escott> !md5sum | yzhd
[12:57] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | yzhd
[12:57] <fdumpling> Hello MrBean
[12:57] <MrBean> Hello!
[12:58] <yzhd> I have a md5 sum checker already
[12:58] <yzhd> thanks ubottu lol
[12:58] <escott> yzhd, that link will have a link to the md5sums
[12:58] <yzhd> yep
[12:58] <yzhd> it matches ;)
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> Kewl.
[13:04] <yzhd> Guys, what do i do? I have burned the .iso on my dvd+r. When I am inside ubuntu installer, I select the first option? then I select the partition (shirnked one 40gb) ?
[13:05] <w83> anyone managed to install gimp 2.7.5 on u11.10 ?
[13:09] <sacarlson> w83: did you try this ppa https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[13:11] <sacarlson> w83: I'm getting this error from that one Depends: libgimp2.0 but it is not going to be installed
[13:11] <MrHeat> Hi! Can someone help me with this error:   sudo: Can't open /var/lib/sudo/lis/1: Read-only file system
[13:12] <Angtagapagligt> Hey does anybody have a link to a good Windows XP image? Need one to get this corrupt Windows XP PC fixed... The user doesn't find his CD anymore. -.-
[13:12] <jrib> MrHeat: "Read-only filesystem"
[13:12] <jrib> Angtagapagligt: offtopic
[13:13] <MrHeat> jrib: I think i f**** my sudoers, just it, but dont know how to fix it.
[13:13] <jrib> MrHeat: what is the output of « mount »?
[13:14] <MrHeat> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Q6eQBw6M
[13:14] <escott> MrHeat, read only FS suggests that your root partition is mounted ro which can happen if it is corrupted and you need to run fsck
[13:16] <MrHeat> escott: it can be because i edited my sudoers file, or just coincidence?
[13:16] <w83> sacarlson: did you manage to apply these additional repos and get the 2.7.5 to work ?
[13:16] <sacarlson> w83: I just added the other 2 needed ppa
[13:17] <w83> and it worked ?
[13:17] <sacarlson> w83: no still same error Depends: libgimp2.0 but it is not going to be installed
[13:17] <w83> :) me too
[13:17] <w83> thx
[13:18] <smokie_> hey guys, can someone help me on how to install a Theme for ubuntu desktop 11.10? like this Theme for example http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/give-your-linux-desktop-new-hope-with-this-gtk3-theme/
[13:18] <sacarlson> w83: maybe you needed to install the older one before installing the new one?
[13:19] <w83> as far as I understood you need to upgrade gtk - but that might be tricky
[13:19] <jrib> MrHeat: are you able to write to the disk now?  Try: « touch ~/randomfilenamehere ».  Does the file get created?  What changes did you make to sudoers exactly?  Did you use visudo to make them?
[13:19] <escott> MrHeat, the output of mount seems to contradict that theory, but i dont know what this xvda device is and maybe something weird is happening there. In any case sure its possible that editing sudoers could have been done wrong and that your error message is just wrong. i would check if you can touch (as root) a file in /var
[13:20] <MrHeat> No, i can't touch this... i think it really corrupted x.x
[13:21] <plm> When will be released the Ubuntu 12.4. The first day of appril?
[13:21] <smokie_> is installing a theme so difficult in ubuntu 11.10 that i cant even find a proper way of doing it by googling
[13:21] <bazhang> plm, late april. #ubuntu+1 for more
[13:21] <escott> yzhd, im wary to give you instructions given your previous comments on how you cannot lose data, but you might want multiple partitions. usually you have 2 one for / and one (~2xRAM) for swap
[13:22] <escott> !precise | plm the release schedule is online
[13:22] <yzhd> I have to ?
[13:22] <fidel> yzhd: please do a backup ;)
[13:22] <escott> yzhd, no you dont have to have swap, but its a good idea
[13:22]  * nibbler__ opposes the swap = 2xRAM rule
[13:23] <yzhd> I just inserted my dvd+rw.. then I clicked on format with a mistake.. now when I insert the dvd+rw.. it opens the dvd.. but it is empty. There is no way to unformat it? / burn the .iso on it now ?
[13:23] <escott> yzhd, this is why we want you to have backups :)
[13:24] <waxstone> MrHeat,  what type of drive is /dev/xvda1
[13:24] <yzhd> there is no way to unformat my dvd+rw ??
[13:24] <escott> yzhd, nobody wants to be responsible for giving you instructions without being present only to find that you had the wrong checkbox clicked
[13:24] <MrHeat> waxstone: It's a virtual harddrive ('i m running a virtual kernel on xen)
[13:25] <escott> yzhd, maybe but its probably easier to reburn
[13:25] <waxstone> MrHeat, ok ty
[13:26] <yzhd> escott, could you help me out with teamviewer ?
[13:26] <yzhd> just buring the dvd
[13:26] <sacarlson> w83: from what I can see it depends on libgtk-2  and onric only goes down to libgtk-3 so have to backup version of ubuntu to run
[13:27] <escott> yzhd, you might want to see if there is a LUG in your area. they will have install fests and will most likely be more than happy to help you setup a backup
[13:28] <w83> sacarlson: true - ok I'll stick with 2.6 for time being
[13:30] <yzhd> can't make the program to burn on my dvd+r.. I guess this is a sign.. getting a new comp in the summer.. better wait for that then -.- :(
[13:36] <fdumpling> Hello MrBean
[13:36] <MrBean> Hello! I'm Bean, what can do for y?
[13:37] <yzhd> do you know how to erase a dvd+r cd `?
[13:37] <fdumpling> Hi all
[13:37] <MrBean> \/names
[13:37] <bhavesh> how do I find on which drive my MBR is installed? (hd0/hd1 etc) for installing BURG
[13:39] <compdoc> bhavesh, gparted should show, but le me check
[13:39] <compdoc> let
[13:40] <bhavesh> compdoc: it shows boot flag on my /dev/sda1 so is that hd0?
[13:41] <escott> bhavesh, no
[13:41] <bhavesh> ok
[13:41] <escott> bhavesh, best policy is to install it on both
[13:41] <fdumpling> Hello MrBean
[13:41] <MrBean> Hello! I'm Bean, what can do for y?
[13:41] <bhavesh> escott: right
[13:41] <compdoc> bhavesh, my boot drive show the boot flag, and the others do not
[13:41] <sacarlson> w83: these guys look to be working on it so maybe just wait for there solution to apear http://askubuntu.com/questions/112142/prioritize-ppa-repos-with-the-same-host  but I see no real solutions
[13:41] <RobertPlummer> Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my taskbar buttons set to the left. I installed gnome tweak tool and it has pushed them to the right.  Can i get any pointers?
[13:42] <fdumpling> Hi MrBean
[13:42] <MrBean> /names
[13:42] <RobertPlummer> Setting things in gconf-editor seem not to work.
[13:42] <Pici> fdumpling: Please do not test your bot in here.
[13:42] <fdumpling> Pici, ok, got it
[13:42] <RobertPlummer> I've changed /desktop/gnome/shell/windows/button_layout to "close,minimize,maximize:" and I get no dice.
[13:43] <w83> sacarlson: I guess i'll wait for 12.04 :P
[13:43] <RobertPlummer> I'm currently running 12.04
[13:44] <RobertPlummer> Anyone? I've been googling for 3 hours, and I feel like I tried just about everything.
[13:44] <bazhang> RobertPlummer, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:44] <escott> !precise | RobertPlummer
[13:44] <RobertPlummer> ok
[13:45] <NetWalk> Hi there
[13:45] <NetWalk> can i ask a question about CLAMFS ?
[13:45] <bhavesh> compdoc: I just have one hard drive so it must be hd0
[13:46] <compdoc> must :)
[13:46] <gr33n7007h> sup!
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> NetWalk  i'm not familiar with clamFS myself, but ask up and wait if someone knows the answer
[13:49] <NetWalk> MonkeyDust:  i'm trying to use it in samba setup and it's not working well,  rights problem as i start clamfs, i really need help
[13:49] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:51] <NetWalk> i have to say that i use clamfs with extended ACL, and the culprint came from there,  lost of writing rights  ;-(
[13:51] <bhavesh> When I boot into Ubuntu I have a black border to the left of the screen. If I fix it with auto-ok (monitor button) then in Windows I have a black border towards the right side of my screen. How shall I fix it?
[13:52] <NetWalk> any sysadmin using clamfs on access scanning with extended acl ??
[13:53] <helo1> hello!
[13:55] <NetWalk> any other channel i can get help for clamfs on IRC ?
[13:55] <helo1> Using Ubuntu 10.04 (I have observed the same behavior on a 11.10 install as well), I am unable to mount a samba share as writable via command line. When I mount it using nautilus, it works no problem. What am I doing wrong? I used this command when mounting the share: sudo mount.cifs //nas2/storage /mnt/storage -o guest,rw
[13:57] <Xabster> Does Ubuntu 11.10 have any feature like Windows 7's audio mixer? So that I can turn up volume of the browser and down for the VLC and up for my radio and down for my game all at the same time?
[13:57] <escott> Xabster, the volume control tools should allow you to do that
[13:58] <compdoc> helo1, hmmm, after installing samba, did you log out?
[13:58] <sacarlson> Xabster: normaly each application has it's own volume control seperate from the full system mixer
[13:58] <Xabster> sacarlson, I can't find that controller in "radio tray"
[13:58] <Xabster> escott, I don't see them anywhere
[13:59] <escott> Xabster, are you running normal ubuntu?
[13:59] <bastidrazor> Xabster: click the sound icon > sound settings > applications
[13:59] <helo1> compdoc: Client or Server? I didn't need to install anything on the client. The server has been rebooted numerous times.
[13:59] <sacarlson> Xabster: you might want to install the gnome alsa mixer
[13:59] <Xabster> bastidrazor, I'm running GNOME, does that make a difference?
[14:00] <compdoc> helo1, what command do you use to mount?
[14:00] <Xabster> escott, I changed some stuff but I'd say it's normal Ubuntu 11.10
[14:00] <Xabster> eg.  For example I know it can read from NTFS but could it read from EXT4
[14:03] <dabbu> i had installed MATE,linux mint desktop on ubuntu 11.10, everytime i restart /etc/lsb-release this file changes ...its changes the system release to linux mint..any solution?
[14:03] <helo1> compdoc: "sudo mount.cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/storage /mnt/storage -o guest,rw"
[14:03] <helo1> bjavesh: was that meant for me?
[14:03] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, whatever your dlna server can read
[14:03] <adha> hello ?? anybody here ?
[14:03] <escott> !mint | dabbu
[14:04] <Fraz> hey
[14:04] <dabbu> escott: i am facing problem on ubuntu 11.10
[14:04] <Fraz> how can i change the number of workspaces in 11.10?
[14:04] <Fraz> i want to have 6 or maybe 8
[14:04] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: well the dlna server (mediatomb) can read from any partition, just wasn't sure if the dlna device (my dvd player) would be able to see those shares
[14:05] <NetWalk> any sysadmin using clamfs on access scanning with extended acl ??
[14:05] <nibbler__> Fraz, right clicking the workspace-selector applet does not give you preferences?
[14:06] <Fraz> nibbler, no
[14:06] <escott> dabbu, yes because you are using mint packages. complain to them
[14:06] <auronandace> dabbu: mate and cinnamon are not currently supported on ubuntu
[14:07] <escott> Dj_FlyBy, the dvd player doesn't read the data directly off the drive it requests it from the dlna server so i shouldn't matter
[14:07] <Dj_FlyBy> escott: sweet. that's what I was hoping for
[14:09] <fernandocueva> I want to know why ubuntu 10.04 has flaws on the taskbar menu
[14:09] <helo1> What is the correct cli command to mount a samba share as writable?
[14:09] <fernandocueva> when I restart sometimes my username is overlapping the shutdown button and I have to readjust shape of the taskbar to see it
[14:10] <fernandocueva> how to solve that bug
[14:12] <mernilio> greetings fellow ubuntitarians!
[14:12] <mernilio> or, hello! :-)
[14:13] <f3ck4r> hi ppl D;
[14:13] <escott> helo1, samba are you/do you need to specify the uid/gid parameters
[14:14] <mernilio> The fist of death! Thats my middle name!
[14:14] <fernandocueva> that's a long middle name
[14:14] <compdoc> helo1, try it this way:     sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/storage -o username=user,password=pass /mnt/storage
[14:14] <mernilio> fernandocueva: maybe so.. ;-)
[14:15] <helo1> fernandocueva: I have the same issue and cannot find a solution. My workaround which usually fixes it for the session is to right click it and go to properties. Then switch the orientation to left or right, and then back to top. It reloads correctly after that.
[14:15] <helo1> escott: How do I find those parameters?
[14:15] <compdoc> helo1, and make sure /mnt/storage has permissions
[14:15] <helo1> compdoc: Which permissions? The samba share is shared to guest. There is no user/pass.
[14:16] <NetWalk> any sysadmin using clamfs on access scanning with extended acl ??
[14:16] <escott> helo1, samba doesnt support unix permissions so you need to specify who will own the files. if its uid=1000 then you need to specify that option
[14:16] <compdoc> helo1, the directory /mnt/storage on the target system needs to have permissions (where you are mounting it)
[14:18] <helo1> compdoc: /mnt/storage is owned by nobody.nogroup and has 755 permissions. Does it have to be 777 for it to be writable?
[14:18] <sheenzz> hey, i cant update my pc to 11.04. why?
[14:18] <f3ck4r> sheenzz: how can you can't?!
[14:19] <sheenzz> huh
[14:19] <f3ck4r> dist-upgrade
[14:19] <fidel> sheenzz: whats the output if you start the upgrade from cli?
[14:19] <helo1> escott: When I mount using nautilus all files I create are owned by nobody.nogroup
[14:19] <fidel> or the error-message you get
[14:19] <helo1> escott: I want to achieve the same with a cli command so I can script the mount process
[14:19] <escott> helo1, so set the uid to nobody
[14:19] <sheenzz> i just a error message
[14:20] <fidel> sheenzz: and the error is?
[14:20] <condor_> ciao
[14:20] <condor_> !list
[14:21] <sheenzz> find a error in a file which i cant remember the file name
[14:21] <f3ck4r> lol
[14:21] <gvandeweyer> What would be the expected read/write speeds on a C5 - R1/R5 for PERC H700, Exactly 2 Primary + 3-4 Additional Drives
[14:22] <condor_> !bot
[14:22] <lawliet> .
[14:22] <gvandeweyer> with 4 TB near sas 6BGps 15K 2.5'' disks and 2 146Gb SAS 6BBPS 15k 2.5'' ?
[14:22] <helo1> compdoc: when I tried setting the /mnt/storage dir to 777 it is now owned by root and will not let me change it
[14:22] <escott> helo1, uid=65534,gid=65534
[14:22] <fidel> sheenzz: try to start the process again and report back the error-message
[14:22] <gvandeweyer> i'm getting only 10 to 15 Mb/s
[14:22] <fidel> its pretty hard to give you hints if you dont provide an error-message in the first place
[14:23] <compdoc> helo1, how did you change perms? what command?
[14:23] <sheenzz> oh o.k one sec
[14:23] <condor_> grazie. ciao
[14:23] <Fraz> is it possible to lock windows in a workspace?
[14:23] <gvandeweyer> So, what would be the read/write speeds to expect from a read5 with four disks?
[14:23] <helo1> compdoc: sudo chmod 777
[14:23] <helo1> compdoc: sudo chown has no effect or output after the 777 command
[14:23] <MadsRC> Is there any other way to connect to a windows share from Ubuntu, than using the "Connect to Server" from Nautilus? Cause using that one allows me to browser and edit the files, but If I want to open one of those files from within a program (like VLC) it won't allow me to browse the share, only the local disk...
[14:24] <escott> !cifs | MadsRC
[14:24] <escott> !samba | MadsRC should have some example fstab entries
[14:25] <helo1> escott: Setting those options seems to have had no effect at all
[14:25] <escott> helo1, you remounted with uid=65534? what does ls -l say on the folder?
[14:26] <lvladi> .
[14:26] <compdoc> helo1, I think youre fighting permissions. why not create a directory in your user's Home directory? Also, using Guest is tricky. Add your username and password to samba, and use that until you get it working. Then, you can play with Guest
[14:26] <gear4> Why do I not have sound in my Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:27] <helo1> escott: link to pastebin?
[14:27] <escott> !sound | gear4
[14:27] <gear4> I've had no sound since Ubuntu 11.04, then it just broke
[14:27] <escott> helo1, sure
[14:27] <gear4> escott, i done that
[14:27] <gear4> in AlsaMixer, I can't change my master volume
[14:27] <escott> gear4, is anything muted in alsamixer?
[14:28] <gear4> Nothing's muted
[14:28] <w32stuxnet> hi guys, I just set up apache2, php and mysql on a ubuntu box hosted for me by a friend. I have access to it by IP, and can confirm that apache is running through the browser. However, I really want to get bind9 up and running so that I can point some domains to my virtual hosts.
[14:28] <gear4> But the master's colored red
[14:28] <helo1> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/902211/
[14:28] <w32stuxnet> Is there a good tutorial available for anyone in my situation?
[14:28] <gear4> And it's stuck on 00
[14:28] <w32stuxnet> I am having tons of trouble figuring out how to configure and run bind properly
[14:28] <escott> helo1, so thats nobody:nogroup 755 is that not what you want?
[14:28] <oogabooga_> hi, i'm running ubuntu from a liveusb i created using lili
[14:29] <IceGuest_77> liveusb thats neat
[14:29] <oogabooga_> and the usb is mounted on /cdrom
[14:29] <oogabooga_> and i need to copy some things to the usb.
[14:29] <peterklein> hi
[14:29] <oogabooga_> but it says that it's a readonly disk.
[14:29] <peterklein> jeed  help
[14:29] <peterklein> #need
[14:29] <oogabooga_> does anyone know of a workaround?
[14:29] <helo1> escott: It is exactly what I want except I can't delete, modify, or create new files in the share.
[14:30] <escott> helo1, are you nobody?
[14:30] <helo1> escott: no, I'm danny
[14:30] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: http://www.howtoforge.com/two_in_one_dns_bind9_views
[14:30] <escott> !permissions | helo1 then why would you expect to be able to create files in nobody's folders?
[14:30] <zykotick9> oogabooga_: use a different USB and copy to that (you can't copy to a liveusb most likely, you'd need something with persistance for that)
[14:30] <w32stuxnet> f3ck4r thanks!
[14:31] <helo1> escott: but the files in the share are to be accessed by 3-10 clients simultaneously with multiple having write access
[14:31] <gear4> escott, should I upload a picture of what I mean ?
[14:31] <escott> helo1, you don't want 755. sounds like you want 777
[14:31] <oogabooga_> zykotick9: is there absolutely no way to do it?
[14:31] <helo1> escott: yes but when I 777 them everything becomes owned by root... Do I want that?
[14:32] <escott> helo1, you need to specify a umask in your mount command as well
[14:32] <nibbler__> oogabooga_, some usb devices try to be even usable if in companies thet deploy endpoint security - so they forbit usb sticks. so these usb sticks register as cd-rom, and are not writeable by default. you need some modeswitching (u3 or how is this called) to get access to the real part of the stick, or get a proper stick
[14:32] <escott> gear4, more helpful if you could identify the hardware with lshw
[14:32] <zykotick9> oogabooga_: well, not that i'm aware of.  perhaps someone else knows?
[14:33] <gear4> escott, busy with that now
[14:33] <helo1> escott: And what user do I want that to be? nobody?
[14:33] <escott> helo1, it would be umask=777
[14:33] <gear4> k, escott, should I pastebin it ?
[14:33] <escott> gear4, we dont want the whole thing just lshw -C audio
[14:33] <gear4> kk
[14:33] <zykotick9> escott: umask=777 means no permission (is that what you/OP wants?)
[14:34] <escott> zykotick9, thanks. helo1 000 rather
[14:34] <gear4> escott, I got nothing
[14:34] <helo1> Thanks. Trying
[14:34] <w32stuxnet> how do I quit out of a byobu screen?
[14:34] <BobMarley_> hello
[14:34] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: ctrl+a+d
[14:34] <kirkland> w32stuxnet: F6 to detach (and keep your programs running)
[14:34] <kirkland> w32stuxnet: ctrl-a-k to kill everything
[14:35] <w32stuxnet> I'm ssh'd into this using mac terminal, I don't think f6 works for me :/
[14:35] <craigbass1976> Ok, I'm obviously stupid...  I'm trying to copy someones files off another hard drive onto my computer.  links are coming too, and referring back to the original drive.  I need that to stop, and thought cp -Hr would do it.  Not so much.  What's the right switch?
[14:35] <zykotick9> kirkland: "everything" isn't correct, it will till the selected screen (but it's possible to have more then one, and the others survive)
[14:36] <zykotick9> s/till/kill/
[14:36] <helo1> escott: is there any way to see what nautilus does to mount the share? All this seems so complicated meanwhile it works exactly the way I want with nautilus. Files are all writable and have a mask of 755 and are owned by nobody
[14:36] <nibbler__> craigbass1976, cp -x, stays on the initial fs
[14:36] <neo1691> hi everyone.. suddenly my wifi has stopped working!! Please help!! wireless network which is my ad-hoc connection shows disconnected in that applet..
[14:37] <gear4> escott, I got nothing
[14:38] <MadsRC> When creating a directory for a smb mount, should the directory be in /dev/ or in /mnt/ ?
[14:39] <f3ck4r> MadsRC: can be whatever you want
[14:39] <neo1691> Problem solved!! :D
[14:39] <MadsRC> Just wondering what best practice is :D
[14:39] <craigbass1976> nibbler__, that made a link as well.
[14:39] <f3ck4r> MadsRC: then /mnt or /media
[14:40] <MadsRC> Thanks :D
[14:40] <auronandace> MadsRC: /dev/ contains devices, /mnt/ and /media/ is used for mountpoints
[14:41] <peterklein> hi
[14:41] <peterklein> need  help
[14:42] <peterklein> hi
[14:42] <peterklein> need  help
[14:42] <escott> helo1, you could just run `mount` after opening in nautilus
[14:42] <auronandace> peterklein: then you also need to explain your problem
[14:42] <zykotick9> auronandace: i've been watching all the mount point suggestions rolling by, and have been bitting my toungue.  /mnt is technically only for "temporary" mounts - see "man hier".  Subdirectories under /srv makes more sense for permanent mount points.
[14:42] <yetone> hello
[14:42] <peterklein> which problem
[14:42] <gear4> escott, I got nothing for "lshw -C audio"
[14:42] <escott> gear4, use "sound" instead of "audio"
[14:43] <peterklein> which problem
[14:43] <Kyshtynbai> Hi everyone. When I copy files via nautils in gnome 2, when there're 2 files with the same names, nautilus doesn't suggest to rename the file I copy. How do I fix it?
[14:43] <gear4> kk
[14:44] <peterklein> need  help
[14:44] <craigbass1976> I'm worried that after I copy this and wipe the original drive, I won't have any files because the link are being copied instead of the actual files.
[14:44] <peterklein> hi
[14:44] <peterklein> need  help
[14:44] <f3ck4r> gear4: are r user been part of the plugdev group?!
[14:45] <nibbler__> craigbass1976, it makes the link maybe, but it does not follow it
[14:45] <gear4> f3ck4r, sorry ? >.>
[14:45] <jatt> hi why are the following filesystems being loaded (ubuntu 11.10)?
[14:45] <jatt> [22513.017929] QNX4 filesystem 0.2.3 registered.
[14:45] <jatt> [22513.068999] Btrfs loaded
[14:45] <auronandace> peterklein: to get help you need to explain what you need help with
[14:45] <jatt> I only use ext4
[14:45] <gear4> I don't understand ..
[14:45] <helo1> escott: I guess nautilus does it some other way, which explains why the mount command is giving me so much trouble. There is no entry for the nautilus mounted version when I run the mount command
[14:45] <f3ck4r> gear4: you have some problem with your audio/sound right?!
[14:45] <peterklein> auronandace: nobody will help me!!! :(
[14:46] <gear4> f3ck4r, yes
[14:46] <monser> hello all
[14:46] <escott> helo1, i thought it would appear in gvfs, but it might just be running everything through smbclient
[14:46] <monser> how to check what is my kernel from terminal?
[14:46] <escott> jatt, blacklist them if you want
[14:46] <auronandace> peterklein: nobody can read your mind, how can they help if you don't tell them what you need help with
[14:46] <jatt> escott: how?
[14:46] <zykotick9> monser: "uname -a" is one way
[14:46] <peterklein> auronandace: i do not need help i only have a question
[14:47] <zykotick9> monser: "uname -r" is correct answer
[14:47] <gear4> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/902232/
[14:47] <f3ck4r> gear4: so, make sure your user are in the plugdev group
[14:47] <helo1> escott: there is this entry "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/danny/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=danny)" But it is there both with the share mounted and after ejecting it...
[14:47] <auronandace> peterklein: then why haven't you asked your question?
[14:47] <peterklein> auronandace: oh did i forgot
[14:47] <gear4> f3ck4r, nothing is working
[14:48] <gear4> Not even root
[14:48] <peterklein> shit
[14:48] <f3ck4r> gear4: and if it is, try to config the audio tho the alsamixer
[14:48] <gear4> I can
[14:48] <gear4> I can't
[14:48] <gear4> f3ck4r, it is
[14:48] <peterklein> well i will explain something about me and my problem
[14:48] <f3ck4r> gear4: id and then u can confirm
[14:48] <gear4> f3ck4r, I can't change anything
[14:48] <escott> jatt, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:48] <peterklein> I am 21-years old . .. i was born in oldenburg its a town in middle germany
[14:49] <peterklein> i have got  birth on  ß7.04.1988
[14:49] <f3ck4r> gear4:  just sudo alsamixer
[14:49] <escott> gear4, and you say it was working before?
[14:49] <jatt> escott: thanks
[14:49] <peterklein> and my name is norwegian name
[14:49] <Pici> peterklein: Does your question have anythign to do with Ubuntu?
[14:49] <peterklein> Peter and little
[14:49] <peterklein> Pici: yes
[14:49] <gear4> f3ck4r, not working ..
[14:49] <Pici> peterklein: Please keep it on one-line then.
[14:49] <f3ck4r> ok
[14:49] <gear4> escott, yes, perfectly
[14:50] <peterklein> Pici: sure why do you think my question is not about ubuntu. i am in #ubuntu channel
[14:50] <escott> gear4, did you change anything in the meantime, can you identify what might have been updated?
[14:50] <Pici> peterklein: Because it doesn't sound like one so far.
[14:50] <f3ck4r> gear4: what is the exactly output
[14:50] <peterklein> Pici: i have to say about me much that my people do understand me and my thinkings
[14:50] <gear4> escott, I changed nothing
[14:50] <gear4> f3ck4r, can't change anything
[14:51] <Pici> peterklein: Just ask the question.
[14:51] <peterklein> ok
[14:51] <auronandace> peterklein: no you don't, just state what you need help with
[14:51] <peterklein> Ok: i need help with UBUNTU
[14:51] <auronandace> peterklein: you can stop trolling now please
[14:51] <f3ck4r> the output when u try to open the sound settings?!
[14:51] <gear4> f3ck4r, can't change anything
[14:51] <_Marcus> auronandace: Just ignore the troll
[14:52] <Pici> peterklein: You'll need to be more specific than that.
[14:52] <peterklein> i found a ubuntu 8.04 cd yesterday
[14:52] <gear4> f3ck4r, it opens
[14:52] <gear4> f3ck4r, but I can't change the values
[14:52] <monser> what is the command in the terminal which will reveal what is my kernal version
[14:52] <peterklein> and i installed it. now he told me: there is something to upgrade
[14:52] <gear4> f3ck4r, they're all red
[14:52] <craigbass1976> mongy, uname -a
[14:52] <peterklein> a window came and told me" please upgrade to 11.10
[14:52] <Pici> monser: Didn't zykotick9 answer you earlier?
[14:52] <zykotick9> Pici: i thought so, but guess no ;)
[14:52] <monser> I did not see it
[14:52] <monser> did he?
[14:53] <f3ck4r> lspci then
[14:53] <Pici> monser: uname -r
[14:53] <MadsRC> Okay, this is wierd. When connecting to my NAS with smb share using Nautilus I can only squeeze out 7.8MB/s, but being on a 100mbit, that was acceptable... But now that I've mounted it through fstab instead, and everything is owned by root, I can now transfer with 12MB/s...
[14:53] <peterklein> a window came and told me" please upgrade to 11.10
[14:53] <monser> ok Thank you
[14:53] <peterklein> i found a ubuntu 8.04 cd yesterday
[14:53] <peterklein> and i installed it. now he told me: there is something to upgrade
[14:53] <peterklein> a window came and told me" please upgrade to 11.10
[14:54] <dell> hello everyone
[14:54] <LjL> peterklein: the Desktop version of 8.04 is no longer supported.
[14:54] <_Marcus> Hello dell
[14:54] <f3ck4r> dell: hi
[14:54] <dell> how's the morning so far?
[14:54] <peterklein> LjL nooo?
[14:54] <LjL> peterklein: you should either upgrade, or install a recent version afresh
[14:54] <f3ck4r> dell: nice
[14:54] <peterklein> LjL: oh this is shit
[14:55] <_Marcus> peterklein: Language please
[14:55] <mhsy> peterklein, it's 4 years old
[14:55] <peterklein> and the newer versions of ubuntu are they free?
[14:55] <mhsy> yes
[14:55] <_Marcus> peterklein: I don't think any Ubuntu cost
[14:55] <peterklein> ok and do they have gnome
[14:55] <w32stuxnet> so, if I set up bind on my server, and then set in one of its zone files ns1 to be pointed to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:55] <w32stuxnet> will that work?
[14:55] <mhsy> technically yes
[14:55] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: it is
[14:55] <mhsy> you can install it
[14:56] <peterklein> ok and do they have gnome
[14:56] <f3ck4r> w32stuxnet: if u need some help lemme know
[14:56] <_Marcus> peterklein: They come with Unity, but you can remove it and install Gnome(I did this on a virtual machine)
[14:56] <peterklein> ok but i need the old gnome 2
[14:56] <mhsy> it comes with unity by default, but you can install gnome-shell and/or gnome-panel
[14:56] <f3ck4r> peterklein: then install
[14:56] <kuwrefem> peterklein:  or you can install 10.04 which comes with gnome 2.3x by default
[14:56] <Squall5668> !notunity | peterklein
[14:56] <peterklein> why not 11.10 with gnome 2???
[14:57] <auronandace> !gnome2 | peterklein
[14:57] <dell> 10.04 will not be maintained much longer though will it
[14:57] <_Marcus> peterklein: Because they removed it and added Unity
[14:57] <peterklein> oh shit they stopped gnome2 ???
[14:57] <f3ck4r> peterklein: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29
[14:57] <zykotick9> dell: another year for desktop
[14:57] <_Marcus> !language | peterklein
[14:57] <w32stuxnet> thanks f3ck4r
[14:57] <f3ck4r> even 12.04 BETA 2 can use gnome 2
[14:57] <dell> oh I thought they dropped the lts support when the new one released sorry
[14:57] <_Marcus> f3ck4r: That's for 12.04, I think he wants 11.10
[14:58] <helo1> escott: could I use smbclient?
[14:58] <f3ck4r> doesn't matter the version will work on all version
[14:58] <zykotick9> f3ck4r: 12.04 has gnome2?  i dont' think so
[14:58] <mhsy> fallback mode for gnome3 is gnome2
[14:58] <gear4> escott, still waiting ..
[14:58] <f3ck4r> zykotick9: im using right now
[14:58] <mhsy> you can select it in lightdm
[14:58] <zykotick9> f3ck4r: fallback != gnome2
[14:59] <mhsy> looks the same
[14:59] <peterklein> omg
[14:59] <peterklein> i saw ubuntu 11.10 uses unity
[14:59] <f3ck4r> zykotick9: fallback is full of bugs this one is more polite
[14:59] <mhsy> peterklein, are you looking for anything in particular or just the interface?
[14:59] <ratcheer> mhsy: It looks like Gnome2, but it is actually a shell of Gnome3
[14:59] <dell> I'm glad I don't use gnome
[14:59] <waxstone> smells a troll
[14:59] <mhsy> ^
[14:59] <zykotick9> ratcheer: ahhh, thank you.
[14:59] <dell> waxstone: where?
[14:59] <peterklein> which ubuntu uses unity
[14:59] <escott> gear4, its hard to say when you haven't been able to tell us anything useful
[14:59] <f3ck4r> =p
[14:59] <_Marcus> peterklein: You must be hard at hearing. So let's try this in a way you can understand. YOU CAN SWITCH TO GNOME
[14:59] <gear4> escott, what can I say ..
[14:59] <auronandace> !unity | peterklein
[14:59] <escott> gear4, check dmesg
[15:00] <f3ck4r> unity is crappy
[15:00] <gear4> My /dev/audio and /dev/dsp etc.etc. are all missing
[15:00] <f3ck4r> i don't like it
[15:00] <peterklein> unity is crappy
[15:00] <peterklein> you are right
[15:00] <peterklein> unity is shit
[15:00] <dell> f3ck4r: so switch to something else
[15:00] <f3ck4r> but u know u can dling and use whatever wm u want it
[15:00] <waxstone> !ops| peterklein
[15:00] <auronandace> lets all grow up and stop name-calling and acknowledge that there are alternatives
[15:00] <f3ck4r> dell: yeah i do it already
[15:00] <jpds> peterklein: No.
[15:01] <peterklein> jpds: what no
[15:01] <dell> kick 1 of the day
[15:01] <gear4> escott, would this work: dmesg | grep audio
[15:01] <f3ck4r> hehehe
[15:02] <felipe_araujo> anyone here know the server of linux from scratch?
[15:02] <auronandace> !alis | felipe_araujo
[15:03] <_Marcus> felipe_araujo: Try their website
[15:03] <dell> felipe_araujo: google would be your friend use it
[15:03] <escott> helo1, using the wrong mount options evidently "mount -t cifs -o guest,uid=65534,gid=65534,file_mode=0666,dir_mode=0777 //buffalo/Shared /media/test/"
[15:03] <felipe_araujo> thx all
[15:03] <_Marcus> dell: Everything asked here can be found on Google if you search hard enough :P
[15:04] <gear4> escott, would this work: dmesg | grep audio
[15:04] <anti_theocon> anyone here tried to install teamspeak client on latest ubuntu?
[15:04] <dell> _Marcus: he was asking about something non related to Ubuntu thats why I said that
[15:04] <escott> gear4, i don't know. have you tried it? does it tell you anything useful?
[15:04] <gear4> escott, i tried it, nothing came out
[15:04] <_Marcus> dell: Ah
[15:04] <anti_theocon> it crashes upon connect
[15:04] <zykotick9> anti_theocon: what version is "latest ubuntu" for you?
[15:05] <dell> I have to admit I am actually liking Ubuntu with fluxbox :-)
[15:05] <anti_theocon> i can't remember but i just downl;oaded the latest stable release last week
[15:05] <eLiam> hi, I'm trying to forward all incoming packets on port 25 to an internal mail host using DNAT with no luck.  Can anyone help me? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/902273/)
[15:05] <f3ck4r> dell: =p
[15:05] <zykotick9> anti_theocon: ok, just checking you wheren't talking about the beta
[15:05] <anti_theocon> the client is in the repositories and it installs nice, but crashes when connecting to a server
[15:05] <zykotick9> anti_theocon: fyi "lsb_release -a" in a terminal will show you what version you have
[15:05] <dell> although the newest kernel dropped the module for my audio
[15:06] <anti_theocon> tnx!
[15:06] <dell> gonna have to recompile it and add the module back to it
[15:06] <hujiafu> just passing through
[15:06] <helo1> escott: In the command you just sent, can you explain what the uid gid file_mode dir_mode actually set? Are they settings for the creation of new files? or the user spoofed when reading? I am a little confused by all that.
[15:06] <f3ck4r> hard work ;>
[15:07] <CharminTheMoose> Are ubuntu remixes that change configuration files/ add/remove packages from official ubuntu repos supported here?
[15:07] <i7c> what skype alternatives for ubuntu can be recommended?
[15:07] <yzhdh> Hi guys. I just booted ubuntu 11.10 from live cd. I'm in ubuntu right now. I want to install it, when I click on the icon on the home screen  @install ubuntu 11.10@ nothing happens
[15:07] <yzhdh> any idea _
[15:07] <escott> helo1, samba (without extensions) doesn't support unix permissions. so you have to tell it what permissions to set. here we are setting the owning user/group, and specifying a permission set for files and directories
[15:08] <escott> i7c, there are a number of sip phone clients. gnome-meeting is one
[15:08] <zykotick9> i7c: the !skype factoid suggest ekiga (i wouldn't call it an alternative however)
[15:09] <dell> what's the deal with tis near-by thing in my empathy?
[15:09] <dabbu> how to check if the connected wifi has internet access?
[15:09] <yzhdh> anyone _
[15:09] <helo1> escott: So those are permissions for newly created files then? Also, using the new command you sent me produces the same issue. Read only.
[15:09] <i7c> escott, zykotick9: mhm okay, i'll have a look. i'm looking only for video calls. calls to landlines etc is not necessary for me.
[15:10] <ratcheer> dabbu: Disconnect your ethernet connection, then see if you still have access.
[15:10] <escott> helo1, those are permissions for all files in the share. if you are connecting to a samba server that has unix permission extensions apparently you can try using noperm
[15:10] <yzhdh> ....
[15:10] <yzhdh> hello
[15:10] <yzhdh> >D
[15:11] <zykotick9> CharminTheMoose: only official ubuntu releases are supported in #ubuntu (ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu)
[15:11] <gear4> escott, can I try: [ ! -f './purgeconfig.sh' ] && wget http://purgeconfig.sf.net/ purgeconfig.sh && sudo bash
[15:11] <gear4> ./purgeconfig.sh alsa=base alsa-utils linux-sound-base libasound2
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> dabbu  ping to some website to find out
[15:11] <gear4> Sry, my client newlines ..
[15:11] <escott> gear4, i dont know what that does/can't advise you on that
[15:12] <gear4> It re-installs ALSA
[15:12] <gear4> Safely *
[15:12] <helo1> escott: The server is Ubuntu running samba out of the box with minimal changes to the .conf. Does that support extensions?
[15:12] <escott> helo1, don't know
[15:12] <gear4> escott, It re-installs ALSA
[15:12] <gear4> escott, Safely *
[15:14] <gear4> .. nevermind
[15:14] <gear4> bb
[15:14] <helo1> escott: thanks for all your help...  Is there a way to combine separate partitions. While I installed Ubuntu on my computer I made a separate boot partition and now it is running out of space. Is there a way to recombine it with the main partition?
[15:19] <LifeMask> hey shammancer
[15:19] <LifeMask> how's it going
[15:19] <coderhs> how about u make a logical volume using those two physical volume
[15:19] <bastidrazor> shammancer: you could uninstall unused/old kernels
[15:19] <monser> boot partition should be around 200mb
[15:20] <Newb10101> Hey guys this might be a newb question, but I've searched forums and tried many different things. I put a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 on a win 7 computer and it installed correctly. I could NOT get anything beyond 640x480 resolution. I tried installing additional drivers for my Nvidia gt430 GPU and the Nvidia X server application didn't do me any good. Now I go to boot into Ubuntu this morning, and it won't even boot. It gives me
[15:20] <shammancer> How can I tell which one is unused?
[15:20] <shammancer> are?
[15:20] <coderhs> shammancer: u could use, gparted but i am not sure if the files will be lost or note
[15:20] <bastidrazor> shammancer: normally, you're using the highest version so anything below that is old/unused
[15:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Newb10101: your message was cut off after "It gives me"
[15:20] <monser> boot partition contains very few files
[15:20] <monser> this is what i think
[15:20] <Newb10101> it gives me a bout 3 lines of text
[15:21] <bastidrazor> shammancer: do you use synaptic or apt-get for package management?
[15:21] <shammancer> apt-get
[15:21] <monser> you can use gparted to resize the boot partition
[15:21] <monser> and add the unused space to your root or home partition
[15:22] <Newb10101> 13.9222396\ ieee80211 phy): wl_ops_bss_info_changed: arp filtering: enabled true, count 1 (implement)
[15:22] <roasted> Question - is there a way to get my programs to list a-z in the unity menu?
[15:22] <shammancer> I did make a buffer for the boot directory
[15:22] <dell> I think I am going to install the new Ubuntu when the release is out and keep it till the next lts
[15:22] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive changed the power settings so that the PC stops turning the monitor off and going into sleep mode, but it is still happening regardless. Is there something I am missing here?
[15:22] <bastidrazor> shammancer: apt-get autoremove remove linux-image-*then hit tab to autocomplete but pick the lower version numbers. you can use 'uname -r' to determine your current kernel
[15:22] <ratcheer> dell: I wish I could do that.
[15:23] <dell> ratcheer: why could you not?
[15:23] <ratcheer> dell: Willpower. I like the bleeding edge.
[15:24] <ignerious> hey anyone knows how to establish a network connection in opensuse
[15:24] <_Marcus> ignerious: OpenSUSE?
[15:24] <dell> ratcheer: if you like bleeding edge you should go with a rolling release
[15:24] <ignerious> yes
[15:24] <_Marcus> ignerious: This is Ubuntu support
[15:24] <mkultra_> should be "ifconfig" in terminal
[15:25] <mkultra_> ifconfigs a rather generic command
[15:25] <ignerious> where did i get information about this
[15:25] <mkultra_> man ifconfig for the manual
[15:25] <ratcheer> dell: I just gave up on my test installations of Arch and Sabayon. Too much trouble to keep up.
[15:25] <_Marcus> ignerious: Try OpenSUSE's IRC room
[15:25] <ratcheer> I had been using Arch for 6 months...
[15:25] <mkultra_> alt + f2 = terminal alt + f7 or f8 is your os
[15:25] <ignerious> ok
[15:25] <dell> ratcheer: I run arch on my other desktop and laptop
[15:26] <ratcheer> dell: I liked Arch, but it was like pulling teeth.
[15:26] <_Marcus> ignerious: On Freenode it's #SUSE
[15:26] <dell> ratcheer: nah, just have to stay on top of it
[15:26] <_Marcus> ignerious: On irc.opensuse.org it's #openSUSE
[15:26] <Newb10101> Lunar_lamp did you read what I typed?
[15:26] <sheperson> is it OK if I use the same /home partition for different Linux distros? (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.)
[15:26] <dell> ratcheer: cost of being on the edge
[15:27] <Dj_FlyBy> Ive changed the power settings so that the PC stops turning the monitor off and going into sleep mode, but it is still happening regardless. Is there something I am missing here?
[15:27] <zykotick9> sheperson: you could try - expect issues
[15:27] <dell> sheperson: you should be fine
[15:27] <sheperson> zykotick9, what kind of issues?
[15:27] <zykotick9> sheperson: i couldn't say (it's not a good idea)
[15:27] <mkultra_> config files are stored in home
[15:27] <ratcheer> dell: Ubuntu is a happy medium.
[15:27] <mkultra_> just make another user
[15:27] <mkultra_> name your user ted instead of ned in fedora
[15:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Newb10101: you sent a single line of text, about arp filtering, which is not likely to be realted to any issues. Does the system just freeze there, or reboot etc?
[15:27] <shammancer> Awesome I removed the ones I did not need thanks guys
[15:28] <dell> ratcheer: yeah it just has the best support
[15:28] <sheperson> mkultra_, nice idea!
[15:28] <mkultra_> yeah that will clear up issues
[15:28] <mkultra_> you should be able to share a vsftpd on both os's too
[15:28] <thwest> on 10.04, how do i upgrade to python 2.7? I did apt-get update, but install doesnt want to upgrade it
[15:29] <sheperson> mkultra_, are you talking to me?
[15:29] <mkultra_> yeah
[15:29] <Lunar_Lamp> Newb10101: you might want to try booting with an older kernel, in case the current one is causing issues. http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-ubuntu-11-10-with-an-old-kernel-version (scroll down for an explanation of how to do this while it's booting)
[15:29] <sheperson> why I should I share a vsftpd?
[15:29] <Newb10101> Lunar_lamp that was an example of one of the lines it gives. here I took a picture. http://imgur.com/M7LfM              It just freezes right there, I have to power it down afterwords
[15:30] <sheperson> mkultra_,  why I should I share a vsftpd?
[15:30] <zykotick9> sheperson: i'd suggest you be very carefull with info from anyone recommending FTP anything.  FTP SHOULD DIE.
[15:30] <mkultra_> make the node a network share?
[15:30] <mkultra_> using ftp instead of sshfs
[15:30] <karzan> some times my mouse stop working so i have to restart to fix it
[15:30] <mkultra_> or nfs
[15:30] <sheperson> mkultra_, I got it
[15:31] <sheperson> thanks
[15:31] <sheperson> :D
[15:31] <yzhd> hi guys
[15:31] <zykotick9> "ftp instead of sshfs" oh my.
[15:31] <yzhd> anyone here that can help me with ubuntu installation _
[15:31] <mkultra_> install from a flash drive
[15:31] <karzan> yzhd, JUst ASk
[15:32] <mkultra_> expect for things to get wiped
[15:32] <karzan> some times my mouse stop working so i have to restart to fix it, any help?
[15:32] <etzerd> hello all
[15:33] <yzhd> I\m on a windows vista. I shirnked my hard drive. I now have 44 gb of unnalocated space. I want to install ubuntu on that space. I have inserted the live cd, and when I\m in the installation screen what do I do+_
[15:33] <dell> hello etzerd
[15:33] <etzerd> what is ubuntu  2D?
[15:33] <yzhd> I selected the 3rd option.. but it didn\\t work
[15:33] <ctjctj> I'm  working with 12.04.  In the Network Manager menu the "connect to vpn" menu option has gone away.  Where do I find documentation/help on getting this back.
[15:33] <zykotick9> ctjctj: reask in #ubuntu+1
[15:33] <ctjctj> Thanks zykotick9
[15:33] <dell> etzerd: it just dosn't have the effects, like shadows, and such
[15:34] <etzerd> ok thanks
[15:34] <zykotick9> etzerd: and it's Unity2D not Ubuntu2D ;)
[15:34] <etzerd> lol.. thanks
[15:34] <dell> zykotick9: in the login it does say Ubuntu 2d
[15:34] <waxstone> yzhd, select install alongside othe ros option
[15:35] <zykotick9> dell: really, oh.  etzerd my bad! sorry.
[15:35] <etzerd> is it safe to install the new version 12.04?
[15:35] <yzhd> when I got an error when I did that _
[15:35] <It_2927> Hey
[15:35] <waxstone> !12.04 | etzerd
[15:36] <yzhd> I will try it again
[15:36] <Shinobi_> is there a way to run scripts when a file is created, modified, deleted, etc..
[15:36] <It_2927> so 12.04 is still in beta testing?
[15:36] <yzhd> im in ubuntu live cd try ubuntu thing
[15:36] <zykotick9> It_2927: yes
[15:36] <It_2927> Ok
[15:36] <waxstone> yzhd, yes install form live cd
[15:36] <It_2927> when do you think it will come public?
[15:37] <It_2927> few months?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> It_2927  April 26
[15:37] <ratcheer> end of april