[00:05] <tsimonq2> lynorian: Something for the manual: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1139902/how-to-increase-the-size-of-the-cursor-in-lubuntu-19-04
[00:07] <teward> wxl: error: GeoIP legacy *was* already phased out
[00:07] <teward> by MaxMind
[00:07] <teward> back in January
[00:07] <teward> it's why I pushed to get a third party GeoIP2 module included in NGINX for Ubuntu :P
[00:07] <teward> (and why i'm going to MIR it if there's nothing overtly bad here)
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> lynorian: Something for the manual: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1 …], Really? Who would want to make it bigger?
[01:44] <lynorian> people with vision troubles
 If that's the case, not only the cursor should be bigger
[01:46]  * Eickmeyer needs a lynorian for Ubuntu Studio. :'(
[01:46]  * Eickmeyer is also not here recruiting.
 @HMollerCl [If that's the case, not only the cursor should be bigger], I mean, isn't there a more global "zoom"?
 not that I know
 @HMollerCl I wish I knew a way
[01:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5c9fce6c390b: Add session settings changing cursor size] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5c9fce6c390b
[10:09] <rtarik> This is tarik from Morroco
[10:09] <rtarik> is there a possibility to install Lubuntu on Gericom Masterpiece ?
[11:04] <guiverc2> rtarik, i don't know your machine, but a quick search online says its a x86(something) that ran winXP; is yours x86 or x86_64, how much ram (the ones I saw were small(
[11:08] <guiverc2> rtarik, also why not download the appropriate one for your system, and try it (https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/try-ubuntu-before-you-install  is geared for main ubuntu, but it applies to lubuntu too which has a try-lubuntu option)
, it is pantium 4 about 512 M RAM
[11:17] <rtarik> guiverc2, it is pantium 4 about 512 M RAM
[11:19] <rtarik> I prepared a Lubuntu USB but it doesn't boot !
[11:19] <guiverc2> the 512mb RAM will be your problem.  I've tested Lubuntu 18.04 on pentium 4 & pentium m machines inc. 18.04 LTS, 18.10, 19.04 though always with 1gb or more of ram.
[11:19] <guiverc2> rtarik, it may be the machine itself can't boot USB; many p4's couldn't (they booted dvdr/cdr's)
[11:21] <rtarik> I found that Lubuntu may work with less of 512 M RAM !
[11:21] <guiverc2> you did download the x86 version I assume, my p4/penitum-m's were incapable of booting x86_64
[11:22] <rtarik> the x64
[11:22] <guiverc2> rtarik, i suspect it may, but would not be much fine if you wanted to use chromium/firefox to browse many web sites etc; if playing music, editing docs - not an issue.
 maybe I'll do a test with x86
[11:24] <guiverc2> is your pentium-4 capable of x86_64?; mine were not.
[11:24] <rtarik> unsure
[11:24] <rtarik> I don't know 64 apply on the old machine
[11:25] <guiverc2> the more recent releases tend to give a decent message about cpu not being suitable; older releases just gave crash messages as I recall (I don't recall clearly sorry)
[11:26] <guiverc2> rtarik, what release did you try?  (I'm booting lubuntu x86_64 now in a x86 only pentium-4 box)
[11:26] <rtarik> 19.04
[11:27] <rtarik> do you recommand specific release ?
[11:27] <guiverc2> on that old machine, I'd have been tempted to use 18.04 LTS (3 year life instead of 9 months)
[11:29] <guiverc2> okay, my p4 box says "This kernel requires an x86_64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU \n Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
[11:29] <rtarik> guiverc2: I'll do other test
[11:29] <rtarik> thank you for all those informations
[11:30] <guiverc2> fyi: i booted 19.10; but 19.04 would have had same error message, and you're most welcome
[11:31] <rtarik> Is there a tool (i.e VM software) to test releases or you use USB ?
[11:34] <guiverc2> rtarik, i mostly test using real hardware (eg. the old p4 heater box I booted for your test), but I do use virtual-box on occasion too, others here use other tools too
[11:36] <rtarik> guiverc2: thank you
[11:36] <guiverc2> :)
 it's only me that now I have "Kde connect"?
 ?
[21:02] <kc2bez> @HMollerCl did you have KDE connect before?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @HMollerCl did you have KDE connect before?], Nope
 I have it because I installed (and use) it
 Now I have it in preferences
 Hmm
[21:13] <kc2bez> 19.04?
[21:16] <kc2bez> I have it installed too but I don't remember seeing it on any fresh 19.04 installs.
 in eoan.
 I mean, after I change the soruces
 kdeconnect/eoan,now 1.3.4-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
 Hey I got some free time
 So we're not porting kvantum right
[21:22] <kc2bez> It is not installed on my VM @HMollerCl
 What else do we need to port from gtk to qt
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> It is not installed on my VM @HMollerCl], did you have eoan sources?
 @SamuelBanya [What else do we need to port from gtk to qt], I believe redshift-gtk should be easy
 Sweet thanks
 kc2bez: hmoller@hmoller-pc:~$ apt list kdeconnect  … Listing... Done … kdeconnect/eoan,now 1.3.4-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
 automactic installed....
[21:25] <kc2bez> I do have the sources enabled and eoan
[21:26] <kc2bez> What happens if you remove it?
[21:27] <kc2bez> You can simulate the removal.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> You can simulate the removal.], how?
[21:28] <kc2bez> `apt remove -s PACKAGENAME`
 mmm, it will only remove kdeconnect..
 Side note though regarding redshift. When I download the .tar.gz do I have to build it or since it's python based I just have to port it
 first make sure it works, then make a copy and start the clone
 Ok will do
 I downloaded the tar.gz of this project and in its README.md file it says that I need to install it from the OS itself via a package manager. The only other instructions that relate to possibly building it on my comp are in CONTRIBUTING.md but they list dependencies. Do I have to do: sudo apt-get install (list of all the dependenc
 Or do I just have to run the "install.sh" shell file
 I believe that you must install redshfit with apt and run redshift-gtk from the source
 but I've never run redshift from the source, so, not sure it will work w/o problem
 I eventually got the make file to do it's thing
 Now it's having issues about GeoClue since it can't find my location
 I can't find the system setting for location in Lubuntu tbh
 *within Preferences > LxQt settings > LxQt Configuration Center
 * in the startup menu
 Got it to work. If you run it from the startup menu then it appears to ask if I'd like location settings to be enabled. I clicked yes and now I have a gps style pin present that shows the color temp in the upper right
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/I32FdLH.jpg
 I'll look at that cheat sheet before trying to use that one guide you sent to port it from gtk to qt
 Cheatsheet only had one thjng that matched the source code present with only "Gtk.Label" section being relevant. so ill have to use that one article you provided
 In terms of GObject do you have to change the entire functions style to suit QObject or can you just change it line by line?
 That's the first thing shown but is a bit daunting in my head on how to approach changing the related code


[03:24] <timgd> why is lubuntu booting into unity?
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> Hi! I am having issues with access time and somewhat transfer speed on my SSD. I have discard on file system and have run trim manually repeatedly. This is how it looks http://temp-share.com/show/f3Yg9hjkn. I have the same jitter no matter what scheduler I use. How does it look for you? Run gnome disks benchmark please if you have the time?
[16:21] <fomg-optimize> THis stuff is driving me nuts :)
[17:24] <markveidemanis> Where does lubuntu read for the start menu (the root files)
[20:59] <arvislacis> Hello all, I have problem with my backlights on my netbook with Lubuntu 12.10.
[21:01] <arvislacis> Any help for me?
[21:52] <j_russell> hi all, looking for some assistance, I'm trying to install Lubuntu 12.10 on a Fujitsu Lifebook C-2220 (Pentium 4 - 2.40GHz, 215MB ram).  I'm installing from a USB drive. I reach the "Where are you?" page, click continue, and get the error ubi-timezone failed with exit code 1. Any suggestions?
[22:28] <wxl> why does everyone who wants help just ask and leave?
[22:38] <genii-around> wxl: Kids. No patience these days.


[12:16] <gjolly> Hi there, I just created a new channel: #ubuntu-cloud for the CPC team and discussion around public cloud images. I tried to follow the guidelines (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/CreatingChannels) as best as I could.


[22:15] <Nivex> grr... a strike against upgrading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131


[03:13] <skellat> Hunh.  This does not bode well: [Thu Jul 25 03:05:56 +0000 2013] (x24) <CP24> Two hundred and fifty employees have been laid off at BlackBerry in Waterloo, CTV News has learned.
[22:06] <jrgifford> skellat: not surprising
[22:06] <jrgifford> What is keeping RIM afloat is their patent portfolio, at this point.
[23:27] <dzho> that has worked out so well for Kodak, after all.


[00:16] <panelsandpanels> Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone else was having the problem where restarting the xfce4-panel immediately logs the user out
[00:34] <xubuntu485> Hi
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !hi
[03:47] <ner> ballz ...
[03:48] <ner> Where's ballz?
[03:49] <ner> hmm Must be gone.
[04:57] <Aiena> Is there a quick 7 pass file shredder for xubunutu preferably integrated with the recycle bin (but not necessary)
[04:58] <well_laid_lawn> there's a cli app called shred
[04:58] <well_laid_lawn> !info shred
[04:58] <well_laid_lawn> I think it's part of a suite of apps
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> !find shred
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> see   man shred
[05:04] <Aiena> well_laid_lawn: shred isnt fast
[05:04] <Aiena> I have it
[05:04] <Aiena> evn with the -l -l params
[05:04] <Aiena> sorry shred is fast
[05:04] <Aiena> srm is not fast
[05:04] <Aiena> I want something like srm but more quicker and efficient
[05:05] <Aiena> shred leaves traces of the file name but destroys data in the file
[05:07] <well_laid_lawn> I don't do illegal stuff so I'm not experienced with having to make sure stuff is removed ;)
[05:09] <Guest93466> MrKB, when the above is done, do - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" again
[05:09] <Guest93466> Hey guys -  the other day someone here kindly helped me figure out a way to get the features of UbuntuStudio for Ubuntu - one of the things I was told was I needed to be a member of audio group and I gave was given this to type in terminal: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - when I did, it spat this back at me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769898/  .... now, my question is - what do I do here... I was uncertain if the Username/account
[05:09] <Guest93466>  was automatically created or if I needed to choose something from the options listed.
[05:09] <Guest93466> I'd really appreciate the help, I am stuck in terminal waiting to make my next move.
[05:20] <Aiena> well_laid_lawn: you dont need to do some illegal stuff to want to securely delete a file What about passwords, bank account details etc ?
[05:20] <Aiena> Encryption can be broken
[05:21] <well_laid_lawn> I was joking hence the ;) sorry about that
[05:21] <Aiena> Nah it ok
[05:21] <Aiena> srm is just too secure
[05:22] <Aiena> 9 to 10 actually i think a combo of 2 programs would be good
[05:22] <Aiena> shred for with 9 passes will do the job of thoroughly destroying the file
[05:23] <Aiena> but i need something which will remove the file name and references to the file name from linux history and overwrite the sectors holding the file name
[05:23] <Aiena> I am not a programmer but not sure if there is something already out there
[05:26] <well_laid_lawn> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/shred-securely-delete-files-in-linux.html
[05:31] <Aiena> well_laid_lawn: can you use apt-get to install a deb package from the hard disk ? If yes what are the parameters?
[05:33] <well_laid_lawn> Aiena:  http://superuser.com/questions/196864/how-to-install-local-deb-packages-with-apt-get
[05:34] <well_laid_lawn> I think dpkg -i is easiest
[05:55] <Guest98535> anyone available?
[05:55] <Guest98535> I am having some issues adding a user to the audio group
[05:56] <Guest98535> sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - gives me this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769974/
[06:05] <Aiena> Guest98535: Maybe you have to edit audio group manually
[06:05] <Guest98535> could you help with this?
[06:05] <Guest98535> im clueless
[06:05] <Guest98535> Aiena:  itd be MUCH appreciated
[06:06] <Aiena> assuming you are using leafpad type "gksudo leafpad /etc/group"
[06:06] <Aiena> In terminal
[06:06] <Aiena> it will ask you for your password and allow you to edit the file manually
[06:06] <Guest98535> leafpad?
[06:06] <Aiena> leafpad is like notepad in windows
[06:07] <Aiena> it comes default with xubuntu
[06:07] <Guest98535> i use terminal, as it comes with ubuntu, ctrol+alt+t
[06:07] <Guest98535> good enough?
[06:08] <Aiena> type "gksudo leafpad /etc/group" (without the quotes) and hit enter in the terminal then you will understand
[06:08] <Aiena> :)
[06:08] <Guest98535> no ask for pass
[06:08] <Guest98535> nothing
[06:08] <Aiena> ok
[06:08] <Aiena> do you have a password on login?
[06:09] <Aiena> if not then it wont ask for it
[06:09] <Guest98535> no
[06:09] <Guest98535> but i use pw when using sudo
[06:09] <Aiena> hmm ok
[06:09] <Aiena> then somethings wrong
[06:09] <Aiena> wait
[06:09] <Aiena> did you use sudo recently? like in the last 5 to 10 mins
[06:09] <Guest98535> alright, thanks so much man.  been trying to se my pc up forever
[06:09] <Aiena> in that case it wont ask for the password
[06:09] <Guest98535> yeah
[06:09] <Guest98535> ok
[06:10] <Aiena> thats normal
[06:10] <Guest98535> ok asked for pass
[06:10] <Guest98535> but nothing comes up in terminal
[06:10] <Guest98535> and the pass it asked for was a gui box not in terminal like normal
[06:10] <Aiena> ok anyways now you can see a notepad with lots of text in itsomething like
[06:10] <Aiena> root:x:0:
[06:10] <Aiena> daemon:x:1:
[06:10] <Aiena> bin:x:2:
[06:10] <Aiena> sys:x:3:
[06:10] <Guest98535> no
[06:10] <Aiena> ok
[06:10] <Guest98535> no notepad opened
[06:10] <Guest98535> buut
[06:11] <Guest98535> i had that in terminal from another command
[06:11] <Guest98535> with someone trying to help
[06:11] <Guest98535> one sec
[06:11] <Aiena> Ok doesnt matter
[06:11] <Guest98535> ok
[06:11] <Aiena> type "sudo nano /etc/group"
[06:11] <Guest98535> im all ears :)
[06:11] <Guest98535> ok
[06:11] <Guest98535> got the stuff
[06:11] <Guest98535> now what
[06:12] <Aiena> ok scroll down till you find the word "audio" and paste your line here
[06:12] <Guest98535> yeeeahn
[06:12] <Guest98535> no audi
[06:12] <Guest98535> heres what i get
[06:13] <Aiena> Guest98535: can you pastebin your file contents
[06:13] <Aiena> and post the link in a priv msg?
[06:13] <Guest98535> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5770004/
[06:13] <Guest98535> ok sorry
[06:13] <Aiena> no issues
[06:13] <Aiena> hmm your group permissions are less ok
[06:14] <Guest98535> problem?
[06:48] <nikolam> I hit again that tumblerd stupidity in 12.04
[06:49] <nikolam> producing also high Thunar cpu usage, mollesting disk and resiliance to kill -9
[06:52] <SKYLAKE-10nm> paradox sleep mode with high cpu usage i got that too , only thing you can do is restart :(
[06:58] <SKYLAKE-10nm> or find out why
[07:19] <Sysi> tumbler started eating CPU when I had a folder open in thunar where I was downloading video to
[07:21] <well_laid_lawn> use noscript in firefox then
[07:45] <nikolam> OK, he did it again. (thunar/tumblerd) using high cpu time. I was just cut/pasting a video
[07:46] <well_laid_lawn> quit copying pr0n from tumbler then...
[07:47] <nikolam> I am not using it intentionally, I just use Thunar.
[07:48] <Sysi> after starting the copy, switch to view another folder
[07:50] <Sysi> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7030
[07:51] <Sysi> if you have new xubuntu http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tumbler
[07:52] <nikolam> ty :)
[07:54] <Sysi> tumbler-plugins-extra offers video and raw thumbnails
[08:12] <nikolam> now I started chmod with -R on large directory and now it refuses to restart...
[08:12] <nikolam> with Thunar also choked.
[10:38] <domaldel> Howdy =)
[10:39] <domaldel> Total irc newbie here =)
[10:39] <domaldel> And linux newbie =)
[10:39] <TheSheep> !hi | domaldel
[10:42] <domaldel> Um, anyone feel like helping out a newbie in pm?
[10:42] <bekks> domaldel: Just ask in here, so everyone can help you.
[10:42] <domaldel> I'd prefer not too...
[10:42] <domaldel> Because I'm a total idiot when it comes to linux...
[10:43] <domaldel> Someone asked me about what "dongle" I use.
[10:43] <domaldel> I have no idea what that is.
[10:43] <domaldel> Not what distro is.
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> dongle = usb wifi device
[10:43] <domaldel> All I know is that I just used wubi to install something called xubuntu.
[10:43] <domaldel> And that while I'm able to connect to my phone via wi-fi I'm unable to use my wireless router.
[10:43] <domaldel> Right...
[10:43] <domaldel> Thanks =)
[10:44] <TheSheep> if you type 'lsusb' in termnal, it will give you a list of all usb devices connected, your dongle should be listed there as well
[10:44] <TheSheep> terminal
[10:44] <domaldel> Terminal?
[10:45] <well_laid_lawn> capital T
[10:45] <TheSheep> Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[10:45] <TheSheep> (or was it called Xfce Terminal in menu?)
[10:46]  * domaldel uses one moment to translate that to his own language then finds something roughly translating to "terminalmodulator"
[10:46] <TheSheep> !no
[10:46] <TheSheep> if that helps
[10:47] <domaldel> Right, just got 7 *things* with that lsusb command.
[10:47] <domaldel> Thanks, I don't mind english though =)
[10:47] <TheSheep> great
[10:47] <domaldel> As long as the terms are not too alien :-P
[10:47] <TheSheep> we can't guarantee that
[10:48] <domaldel> We'll see how it all works out =)
[10:48] <TheSheep> some of those things are internal usb hubs and such, there is probably also your keyboard and your mouse there
[10:48] <domaldel> Laptop, so nope.
[10:49] <domaldel> There is a cooling pad.
[10:49] <domaldel> And my phone.
[10:49] <domaldel> As that's charging there.
[10:49] <domaldel> The rest I have no idea about.
[10:49] <domaldel> Anyway, I'm not trying to connect to anything via USB.
[10:50] <domaldel> I get the connection I'd like to use listed with it's SSID.
[10:50] <domaldel> And I have some things written on the box.
[10:50] <domaldel> Something with "MAC" in front of it.
[10:51] <domaldel> And something with "S/N" in front of it.
[10:51] <domaldel> Haven't written down the name of the router.
[10:53] <well_laid_lawn> so everythings ok then ?
[10:53] <domaldel> Well, I'm not able to connect to it for some reason.
[10:54] <domaldel> Whoops.
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> to the router ?
[10:54] <domaldel> Yeah, not able to connect to it for some reason.
[10:54] <domaldel> No idea what I'm doing wrong.
[10:55] <well_laid_lawn> in the terminal type   route   and hit enter - should be a column for gateway
[10:56] <domaldel> Yes.
[10:56] <domaldel> Anything in particular I should look for there?
[10:56] <well_laid_lawn> does it have some numbers under gateway like <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:57] <domaldel> Oh, and is there some way to make the mouse pad slightly less sensitive?
[10:57] <domaldel> I keep touching it while writing ><
[10:57]  * domaldel nods.
[10:57] <domaldel> But 43 on the second last spot.
[10:57] <well_laid_lawn> not so much of an irc noob if you know /me
[10:57] <domaldel> And the name is "default" in the colum to the left.
[10:57] <domaldel> I still am =)
[10:58] <domaldel> Learned it in a MUD =)
[10:58] <domaldel> Also, the chat in a MMO I used to play was partly based on IRC.
[10:58] <well_laid_lawn> what is the default gateway then ?
[10:58] <well_laid_lawn> sane ip as your router ?
[10:58] <domaldel> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:58] <domaldel> sane?
[10:58] <bekks> same
[10:59] <well_laid_lawn> .43 seems strange if it's a home router
[10:59] <domaldel> I have no idea about what ip the router have.
[11:00] <domaldel> With windows you can just get a CD, run it and suddenly you're connected =)
[11:00] <bekks> You have to know that IP.
[11:00] <domaldel> Hum.
[11:00] <bekks> Even on Windows.
[11:00] <well_laid_lawn> or use dhcp
[11:00] <well_laid_lawn> that'll let you know
[11:01] <domaldel> Well, for whatever reason I didn't need that IP when setting things up on windows.
[11:01] <well_laid_lawn> domaldel:  are you using wifi or ethernet ?
[11:01] <domaldel> wi-fi.
[11:01] <domaldel> But right now I'm using wi-fi to my phone.
[11:01] <domaldel> To connect to you.
[11:01] <well_laid_lawn> k you should be able to click the network icon top right and connect
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> does that work ?
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> I guess you must know about that if you are connecting through the phone
[11:05] <domaldel> Hum.
[11:05] <domaldel> Well, it asks for a password.
[11:05] <bekks> Then enter it.
[11:06] <domaldel> Well, I tried the MAC thingy...
[11:06] <bekks> Whats the "MAC thingy"?
[11:06] <domaldel> But that don't seem to work.
[11:06] <well_laid_lawn> shouldn't need to use the mac address
[11:06] <domaldel> Written on the router.
[11:06] <bekks> When going to connect to a password protected wifi network, you need to know the password.
[11:06] <bekks> The MAC is irrelevant for that.
[11:06] <domaldel> Hum, have I changed the password then?
[11:07] <domaldel> One sec, going to try something.
[11:10] <domaldel> Guess I'll have to work out what that is then.
[11:10] <well_laid_lawn> password to connect is necessary
[11:12]  * domaldel nods.
[11:12] <domaldel> I guess when using wi-fi.
[11:12] <domaldel> However I know that it's not required with ether.
[11:12] <domaldel> I'll give that a try.
[11:14] <well_laid_lawn> then you can connect to the router and check the wifi password if you know the routers' password
[11:14]  * domaldel scratches his head.
[11:15] <domaldel> Could be wrong.
[11:15] <domaldel> But I don't think it have one.
[11:15] <well_laid_lawn> normally the default login for a router is   admin  password   mostly
[11:16] <well_laid_lawn> literally type in password as the password
[11:17] <well_laid_lawn> anyways I have work in the morning so bye and luck
[11:39] <domaldel> Hum...
[11:47] <domaldel> Nope, not much luck there...
[11:47] <domaldel> Apparently I need a password for ether with linux.
[11:47] <domaldel> Didn't seem to be required with windows for some reason.
[11:48] <elfy> not sure exactly what you're up to - but I have never needed a password for ethernet
[11:51] <domaldel> Neither have I, so I'm a bit surprised and disappointed now :-/
[11:52] <TheSheep> domaldel: one is for sure, it's not becuase it's linux, there is something weird with your setup
[11:53] <domaldel> Could be.
[13:14] <domaldel> Hum...
[14:09] <Aiena> Greetings everyone !! Can someone please tell me how to add the ppa of this url? https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+ppa-packages
[14:11] <Aiena> Sysi I kn
[14:11] <Aiena> *know it should be ppa: something
[14:13] <Aiena> I guess it should be ppa:philip5/ppa-packages
[14:16] <Aiena> no
[14:16] <Aiena> can someone please help?
[14:18] <Azelphur> Aiena: maybe you're after this one? https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra
[14:18] <elfy> Aiena: in a terminal is easiest to describe
[14:18] <Aiena> elfy: yes i use the add=apt-repository command
[14:19] <Aiena> Azelphur: thanks for the heads up I'll try that
[14:20] <elfy> then you need the ppa name - from the page Azelphur gave it would be add-apt-repository ppa:philip5/extra
[14:20] <Aiena> elfy: I want to install luminance-hdr 2.3.1 for precise 12.04 from that ppa but i cant figure out how to after adding the ppa
[14:20] <Aiena> elfy: added it
[14:20] <Aiena> now there is a subfolder called luminance-hdr
[14:20] <Aiena> and inside it there is a version for 12.04
[14:20] <Aiena> but I cant get apt to find it so I know I have to do something more
[14:21] <elfy> apt-get update first
[14:21] <Aiena> ah thanks
[14:21] <Aiena> I missed that
[14:23] <Aiena> will see after the update
[14:23] <elfy> :)
[14:23] <Aiena> elfy: is libgphoto used by gimp?
[14:24] <elfy> no idea without checking
[14:24] <Aiena> ok
[14:24] <Aiena> maybe its from krita or something else too
[14:25] <Sysi> gthumb I'd guess
[14:25] <crystal_> hi! Xubuntu is amazing <3
[14:25] <Aiena> :)
[14:25] <Aiena> +1 TO THAT
[14:27] <crystal_> How to bind terminal to Ctrl+alt+T, like a ubuntu?
[14:28] <Aiena> elfy: No i cant get the latest luminance-hdr to install I missed something I am sure it works
[14:29] <elfy> crystal_: Settings Manager - Keyboard - App shortcuts
[14:29] <Aiena> Can you or Sysi try. Sorry to bother you'll
[14:29] <elfy> Aiena: no idea I'm afraid
[14:29] <crystal_> thx u
[14:29] <Sysi> crystal_: settings -> keyboard -> keyboard shortcuts, command is xfce4-terminal for default terminal
[14:29] <Sysi> dang slow
[14:30] <elfy> Aiena: apart from anything I've not used 12.04 since 12.10 and am using 13.10 now ;)
[14:30] <Aiena> elfy: then can you try to install the luminance-hdr for 13.10 from the same ppa ?
[14:30] <Aiena> 2.3.1
[14:31] <Aiena> perhaps it will shed light on my problem as both are available from the same ppa
[14:31] <Aiena> for 12.04 and 13.10
[14:31] <elfy> well what is it for a start?
[14:31] <elfy> Aiena: ^^
[14:31] <Sysi> the thing with PPA:s is that they're not responsibility of xubuntu community but the owner of the PPA
[14:32] <Aiena> https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+ppa-packages It is a program for manipulating HDR images
[14:32] <Sysi> if you tell what doesn't work or what error message you get we might have some pointers
[14:32] <Aiena> elfy:  http://qtpfsgui.sourceforge.net/
[14:32] <Aiena> Sysi: it doesnt list the package in apt after update
[14:33] <Aiena> i updated after adding the ppa
[14:33] <Aiena> the packages typcally get listed by apt
[14:33] <elfy> Aiena: try this apt-cache search luminance
[14:33] <Aiena> elfy: found it
[14:33] <Aiena> luminance-hdr - Graphical user interface application for HDR imaging
[14:33] <Aiena> But apt-get install doesnt note it
[14:34] <elfy> then it will give you an error message
[14:34] <Aiena> ance-hdr
[14:34] <Aiena> ah tnow its working
[14:34] <Aiena> thanks elfy
[14:35] <Aiena> , sysi
[14:35] <elfy> welcome
[14:35] <Aiena> Perhaps it was a typo
[14:35] <Aiena> and I did not realise
[14:38] <elfy> tab complete ftw
[14:39] <Aiena> yes I realised that feature existed only recently
[14:39] <Aiena> but it works for apt and package names too ?
[14:39] <Aiena> i know it works for directories
[14:39] <elfy> sudo apt-get install foo<tab>
[14:40] <Sysi> paths, programnames, packages
[14:40] <Aiena> OK thanks for the info Sysi I'll rememner that in the future it will make life a lot simpler :)
[16:01] <firefox66> hello i have trouble to mount iphone in xubuntu
[16:39] <xubuntu195> I joined the forums yesterday, I posted my first post about the cursor erratically moving. I had read this complaint several times on different forums. Many times this has been know to be caused by pulsed energy in the area. I tried to ground what I presented in a very short few sentences. Lastly, I received an email about my post be spam in nature, WHICH IT WAS NOT NOR DID I INTEND IT TO BE. I can not log on to get a respectful c
[16:40] <xubuntu195> User name: unwittingvictim
[16:42] <knome> xubuntu195, this is not the right place for solving forum related issues
[16:42] <xubuntu195> Ok, where do I go and how do I log on
[16:42] <knome> i would check #ubuntuforums
[16:43] <knome> they might be able to resolve the issue, or if not, at least point you to the right direction
[16:47] <elfy> I'd be the right direction
[16:49] <xubuntu528> hi
[16:58] <cancerjim> So I got and issue
[17:00] <elfy> !ask | cancerjim
[17:04] <cancerjim> Well I started out with xubuntu with the encrypted harddrive option tried to move to kubuntu. Now on boot I don't get asked for my passphrase and all it says is Kubuntu
[17:07] <holstein> cancerjim: if it were me, i would just revert, and add kde, not kubuntu.. and choose kde at the xfce default greeter.. though, you can likely add support for that.. did you ask in a kubuntu channel?
[17:08] <cancerjim> not yet and the problem is not the greeter i dont care about that its more that nothing will start
[17:09] <holstein> cancerjim: sure.. and im proposing its due to the change in the login manager..
[17:10] <holstein> cancerjim: i say, if you switch back to the way it was, you'll be able to get in.. then, you can add KDE, not kubuntu-desktop, and end up with a scenario that will allow you to boot KDE
[17:11] <Sysi> if you made clean install of kubuntu, either you have to select xubuntu in grub menu or you wiped it
[17:12] <holstein> thats true.. what does "tried to move to kubuntu" entail.. im assuming you did "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", and i shouldnt assume
[17:13] <cancerjim> yes exactly but first using http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu and using the remove xubuntu first
[17:14] <cancerjim> and I don't think cryptsetup is starting during login
[17:14] <holstein> cancerjim: can you get in with the recovery kernel?
[17:15] <cancerjim> I have not tried yet
[17:16] <cancerjim> I'll try that Then i'll be back gotta reboot
[17:18] <holstein> cancerjim: if i could get to the recovery kernel, and get "in".. i would just revert, and try and get the thing working.. then, just add KDE to the installation.. and not "switch" to kubuntu, necessarily
[17:18] <holstein> cancerjim: otherwise, you might get information from a kubuntu channel about what needs to be added
[17:31] <nagev> Does anyone know why application windows won't unminimise when i click on them in panel - window buttons ?
[17:31] <nagev> If I click a button the window minimises fine, but to unminimise i have to right click and select unminimise
[17:32] <nagev> I have compiz installed if that has anything to do with it?
[17:33] <cancerjim> So i tried again and it seems like I get hung up on "pymouth mountall"
[17:33] <holstein> i would switch from compiz and test nagev ... i remember needing to add a window decorator.. if you didnt
[17:34] <nagev> holstein: thanks, i will try that.  in ccsm my window decorator is set to /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator
[17:42] <nagev> holstein: yes it's working fine now that I have disabled compiz
[17:44] <nagev> I will re-enable compiz and try disabling / enabling compiz plugins to see if i can isolate the problem.
[18:17] <Guest4509> hey guys, anyone available for a second?  My issue is fairly simple.  After installing the UbuntuStudio apps in full on Ubuntu, I find myself in need of a way to organize them.  Audio is my concern.  On Studio they were arranged by  Sound Generators, Mixers Effects and than the recording wares... I'd be fine making a list and organizing  them this way but I do not know how to figure out the commands to open each of these apps to
[18:17] <Guest4509> do so.... or, a folder with shortcut icons would work - no concern either way, just that I am unsure of how to accomplish either.
[18:18] <lderan> Guest4509, have you tried asking in #ubuntustudio?
[18:22] <Guest4509> Ideran: Yes
[18:23] <Guest4509> I put the question out there here, there and #ubuntu.  Sometimes I find its difficult to get answers while others they pop up so quickly!
[18:23] <Guest4509> I was suggested one method but it didnt pan out.
[18:24] <Guest4509> I mean, I'm thinking the list would be my best bet, so, its just a matter of finding out how the heck you find the commands for each app.   You shouldnt try to learn them all :)
[18:35] <TheSheep> Guest4509: the things that are in your menu are all defined in /usr/share/applications/
[19:29] <Dry_Lips> Hi! Is it possible to have have the panel cast a shadow (and not only the windows...)
[19:53] <Sysi> Dry_Lips: I think that feature is currently broken, there's option in window manager tweaks "Enable shadow for docked windows" in composite tab
[19:53] <Dry_Lips> Ah, it's broken? Awwww, that sucks!
[20:48] <peyam> Hi
[20:48] <peyam> Why is wifi slow on some computers?
[21:17] <therazr> peyam: Many reasons. Buggy drivers, bad wifi card.
[21:58] <KYLEtheBAKER> updating to 13.04 now, hope nothing breaks
[22:39] <haljhon> I've had a lot of problems with 13.04 and the nvidia drivers.
[22:39] <haljhon> it's unfortunate that every machine I use happens to have an nVidia card in it.
[22:56] <nagev> how can i check whether or not i am using proprietary video drivers?
[22:57] <CampinSam> is there a link for a guide on how to make a xubuntu 13.04 live usb?
[23:34] <therazr> CampinSam: What is your current OS?
[23:46] <CampinSam> therazr: slackware 13.37
[23:47] <therazr> CampinSam: Just use 'dd' from the terminal to put the image in the usb stick


[16:44] <cytotoxic> !staff
[16:44] <cytotoxic> !ops
[16:44] <jono> eh?
[16:45] <Seveas> cytotoxic, ?
[16:45] <MenZa> He's been hassling a number of channels now, jono/Seveas
[16:45] <Seveas> ok
[16:45] <MenZa> #ubuntu, #kubu-ot, -server, etc.
[16:45] <jono> thanks Seveas
[16:45] <Seveas> (will unban in a few mins)
[16:45] <MenZa> Seveas: Second time he's hit with different nicks.
[16:46] <MenZa> And masks, I believe.
[16:47] <mdz> Seveas, MenZa, is that someone trying to get their friend's computer banned or something?
[16:48] <Laney> unknown
[16:48] <MenZa> mdz, not a clue.
[16:48] <Seveas> mdz, or just someone with too much time on his hands :)
[17:03] <jpds> Hmm, MC meeting.
[17:04] <jpds> maco, mdeslaur; any of you two around?
[17:04] <jpds> We don't seem to have a quorum.
[17:09] <maco> jpds: wrong spelling? he's mako
[17:10] <jpds> maco: Sorry, I'm reading from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/Meeting
[17:10] <jpds> And it seems my calendar got the time, sorry.
[17:10] <maco> no i think its right time...
[17:11] <maco> im signed up for next meeting though :)
[17:11] <mdeslaur> jpds: I'm here
[17:11] <maco> dholbach is doing the airplane thing, so i guess he's missing
[17:11] <mdeslaur> jpds: isn't the meeting at 1700 UTC?
[17:11] <jpds> mdeslaur: Yes, sorry about that.
[17:12] <geser> mdeslaur: your first test for core-dev: fix jpds' calender to show the correct meeting time :)
[17:13] <mdeslaur> hehe
[17:14]  * mdeslaur -> back at 1700
[18:00]  * highvoltage peeks in
[18:01] <jpds> Do we have a quorum?
[18:01]  * geser is here
[18:01] <geser> soren, persia: are you here?
[18:04] <geser> highvoltage: as you applied also for package upload right, could you please add a list of package for which you want upload rights to your application?
[18:04] <highvoltage> geser: ok
[18:07]  * soren is sort of here
[18:09] <highvoltage> geser: my sponsor suggested that I apply for MOTU but per-package upload rights would also be fine for now, I can't get hold of him so I just added a link to those packages to my application page
[18:11] <soren> soren, geser: Is it just you and me?
[18:11] <geser> soren: jpds is also here, but still no quorum
[18:12] <soren> Ah, right.
[18:12] <geser> highvoltage: no hurry, it looks like this meeting isn't happening due to missing quorum
[18:13] <geser> soren: our hope is persia to reach quorum, anyone else is either travelling or don't have time (don't know about persia)
[18:13] <highvoltage> geser: ok. is there any chance for feedback so long? and also, will you reschedule or would we wait until next month this time?
[18:13] <geser> highvoltage: we will probably do it per mail
[18:13] <jpds> It's midnight in Japan.
[18:13] <highvoltage> geser: ok
[18:16]  * soren wanders off for a bit