[12:12] <Spaceman3750> When you could go after 90% of the market share much more easily than 5%, you're probably going with 90% (Windows) if you're a virus designer
[12:12] <capiira> i would say linux has no virus because most people just install stuff from original sources or from their distro repositories, they rarely/never have contain virus
[12:12] <lazz0> hello, do you know why my brightness settings dont save after restart? i use nvidia-settings, i tried gksudo, sudo etc
[12:13] <togr> capiira, you're fairly new to the linux world then?
[12:13] <unagi> yay for no viruses!
[12:13] <Spaceman3750> Ditto
[12:13] <capiira> ok soory mal ware then
[12:13] <capiira> its easy to incluse a .sh into a setup that destroys your whole system
[12:13] <PriceChild> capiira, yes
[12:13] <Tama00> i need to do a network installation.. where can i find out how to do this
[12:14] <PriceChild> capiira, if you run it with sudo
[12:14] <tarzeau> Tama00: look for pxe boot?
[12:14] <Tama00> there is no other way, this laptop has no cdrom drive no floppy and doesnt boot off flash
[12:14] <Tama00> tarzeau, yeah
[12:14] <DBFT2> hey
[12:14] <capiira> any user would type the admin password if he try to install something
[12:14] <DBFT2> i've just installed ubuntu on a laptop, and im having some problems
[12:14] <DBFT2> i typed apt-get remove gaim, and i got a page full of "failed to write cache" on almost every action
[12:15] <DBFT2> dependency problems prevent configuration of openoffice.org-writer
[12:15] <DBFT2> etc.
[12:15] <DBFT2> any idea why? :|
[12:15] <koen> hi, i have a strange thing. My disk partitions got messy names. My firts is sda2, the second sda1. Also, I have no sda4 (and no, that is not an extending partition or something..). Is there away to rename the devices (computer wide, so also for Grub and stuff)
[12:15] <Frogzoo> koen: yes - rearrange your hardware
[12:16] <capiira> when linux become more used the malware will come
[12:16] <unagi> anyone know how to get card readers to work in ubuntu?
[12:16] <astro76> koen, it doesn't really matter though, does it? ubuntu uses UUID anyway
[12:16] <koen> Frogzoo, you mean: repartition the whole stuff?
[12:16] <gcosmin> how can i reconect my wireless from console
[12:16] <DBFT2> every time i try to use apt-get i get errors from openoffice? :(
[12:17] <PriceChild> DBFT2, feisty?
[12:17] <DBFT2> yup
[12:17] <PriceChild> DBFT2, pastebin the errors please
[12:17] <DBFT2> ok wait there
[12:17] <DBFT2> (different computer)
[12:17] <Frogzoo> koen: no - I mean where you plug in your harddrives is how the device name gets allocated
[12:17] <koen> astro76, i have device names manually set in my fstab. But indead, it doesnt matter for performance. But i just do not like it. So i wanted to know if i could change it back
[12:18] <koen> so you mean that unplugging it
[12:18] <koen> load the system
[12:18] <DBFT2> http://pastebin.com/m33c3b3f8
[12:18] <koen> then halt the pc agian
[12:18] <unagi> is there a site or something that explains linux file system such as what bin is and var and things like that
[12:18] <amb> tontos
[12:18] <koen> and connecting it agian.. will rearrange all?
[12:18] <unagi> i still dont know where 'program files' is
[12:19] <SlimeyPete> unagi: /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin
[12:19] <capiira> hmmmm unagi yeah there is but you will learn it better while using let me search
[12:19] <PriceChild> DBFT2, could you pastebin the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please
[12:19] <capiira> http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/hierarchy.htm
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> unagi: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html   <-- some info
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> und3rB3ar: see section 3.2
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> sorry, table 3-2
[12:20] <koen> Frogzoo, just replug it will give my block devices logical names?
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> und3rB3ar: ^^
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> argh
[12:20] <DBFT2> ok, one second PriceChild
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> he's gorn
[12:20] <DBFT2> ill run to the other computer :p
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> sorry, und3rB3ar
[12:20] <brainiac_ghost> hmm
[12:20] <astro76> koen, I'm not sure of a way besides creating them in that order
[12:20] <gholm> hey all wondeirng aboout "lspci" if I have an onboard video AND another PCI-E video card installed. How can I tell which is which?
[12:21] <brainiac_ghost> my computer died, turn it on and it says fsck.ext3 failed, then when you boot up X doen't start and it comes up with
[12:21] <astro76> koen, not sure what you mean about your extended partition
[12:21] <SlimeyPete> gholm: just look at the manufacturer name and model in lspci
[12:21] <brainiac_ghost> apt-get: program apt is not installed, to install it type apt-get install apt
[12:21] <DBFT2> http://pastebin.com/m4a56fb11
[12:21] <gholm> SlimeyPete: both are nvidia chipsets
[12:22] <Spliffster> very strange. when i do "ssh -X host" the display variable id not set, X forwarding does not work. ssh -X -v gives no error. any idea what i am doing wrong ?
[12:22] <Rienzilla> Spliffster: do you use screen?
[12:22] <Spliffster> not in this xterm session, but i do use screen
[12:22] <SlimeyPete> gholm: ah. you might need to find out which chipset each one uses, then, and look for that in lspci.
[12:22] <Rienzilla> oh ok... then thats not it
[12:23] <gholm> SlimeyPete: yeah....s'pose so.
[12:23] <Rienzilla> sshd can obviously not set DISPLAY in all your virtual terminals, thats why I asked
[12:23] <Spliffster> i see
[12:23] <DBFT2> any ideas PriceChild?
[12:23] <SlimeyPete> Spliffster: is X-forwarding enabled on the machine you're logging in to?
[12:23] <Spliffster> SlimeyPete: yes
[12:23] <Rienzilla> heh, that was question 2 :)
[12:23] <Rienzilla> does it work if you set DISPLAY manually?
[12:23] <gholm> hey SlimeyPete I'm assuming the dpkg-reconfi blah process requires that I know the PCI address of the card I want, and that is shown in lspci?
[12:24] <PriceChild> DBFT2, hmm so you don't have any 3rd party repos... I'm not sure...
[12:24] <Spliffster> SlimeyPete: ssh -X -v does tell me that the server accepts x forwarding
[12:24] <koen> astro76. When you have have a extended partition that that one itself has a device name too, aswell as the logical partitions within it...
[12:24] <DBFT2> yeah
[12:24] <polarheat> anyone here knows how to switch from gnome to xfce (both are installed) when gdm is not running (that is i'm logging in from text mode).
[12:24] <DBFT2> its basically the default
[12:24] <DBFT2> im confused :p
[12:24] <astro76> koen, I know how it works... I mean do you have one or not, what is your setup?
[12:25] <astro76> koen, or just paste the output of mount to pastebin
[12:25] <Spliffster> Rienzilla: it seems pretty simmilar to problems i used to have with screen. ssh server accepts xforwarding but $DISPLAY is unset. when I set DISPLAY manually i get "cannot open display" errors. as if X forwarding would actually not work and the pakets go into nirvana
[12:26] <Spliffster> Rienzilla: also, no X server running on target
[12:27] <Rienzilla> uhm
[12:27] <Rienzilla> that might be a reason maybe?
[12:27] <Rienzilla> If the target is not running X, maybe ssh will not create a tunnel?
[12:27] <Rienzilla> im not sure about that though
[12:27] <Spliffster> Rienzilla: nae, i have no X server running except on my desktop. this might cause the problem but i have no problem with any other machine
[12:28] <Rienzilla> oh ok, your client runs an X server
[12:28] <koen>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:28] <koen> /dev/sda1            6920       12663    46138680   af  Unknown
[12:28] <koen> /dev/sda2   *           1        6919    55576836    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:28] <koen> /dev/sda3           12664       19457    54572805    5  Extended
[12:28] <koen> /dev/sda5           12664       16188    28314531   83  Linux
[12:28] <koen> /dev/sda6           16189       16384     1574338+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:28] <koen> /dev/sda7           16385       19457    24683841   83  Linux
[12:28] <Spliffster> yeah right Rienzilla
[12:28] <Rienzilla> weird
[12:28] <Rienzilla> that should work out of the box
[12:28] <astro76> !pastebin | koen use this in the future
[12:28] <ubotu> koen use this in the future: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <Spliffster> wel... just tought it might be a know problem. thanks anyway Rienzilla
[12:28] <Rienzilla> np
[12:29] <astro76> koen, that's normal, you made two primaries, and three extended
[12:29] <astro76> koen, and you can still make a primary which will be sda4
[12:29] <koen> oh okay i understand now :)
[12:29] <koen> !pastebin
[12:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:30] <mvhome> how i can search feisty packeges using ubuntu site ? ( what is the URL)
[12:30] <Rienzilla> btw, any users with samba experience here? I tried to set up a samba server with vfs recycle module. I set recycle:keeptree to yes, but still the module does not create a directory structure beneath the recycle bin (It just stores all deleted files flat in the repository). Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
[12:30] <astro76> mvhome, packages.ubuntu.com
[12:30] <koen> astro76. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29630/ is this good?
[12:31] <mvhome> astro76, thanx alooot that's it :)
[12:31] <astro76> koen, yes, so basically you can have 4 primaries, sda1-4 and one can be an extended containing sda5 and up
[12:32] <Spliffster> Rienzilla: oh .. wrong channel, this server runs debian 4 ;)
[12:33] <togr> astro76,  is there an advantage to having several primaries over just making everything one big extended and defining all partitions inside this one?
[12:33] <koen> astro76. thanjks for the help
[12:33] <koen> bye
[12:34] <astro76> togr, some OSs like older windows (not sure if it's true lately) would need a primary to be the boot paritition
[12:34] <togr> right -- I seem to recall an older laptop needed the hibernation file to reside on a primary as well
[12:35] <astro76> togr, maybe some older bios limitations too
[12:36] <togr> astro76, exactly -- this was back in APM-time
[12:36] <Spaceman3750> What is the difference between suspending and hibernating?
[12:36] <Spaceman3750> While we're on the topic
[12:37] <togr> Spaceman3750, when suspending, your state is kept alive in RAM
[12:37] <astro76> Spaceman3750, suspend is to ram, hibernate saves ram to disk
[12:37] <togr> when hibernating, it is stored to disk
[12:37] <astro76> Spaceman3750, in linux you need a swap partition >= your ram size to use it
[12:37] <togr> and IBM lets you do both
[12:37] <Spaceman3750> I see
[12:38] <Spaceman3750> Thanks :)
[12:38] <togr> recover from RAM if it is still alive, and from disk otherwise
[12:38] <togr> very useful
[12:38] <DBFT2> how do you set the default app to open dvds to vlc instead of totem?
[12:38] <togr> ReadySafe I believe it was called
[12:38] <Spaceman3750> So is suspending like sleep mode in Windows?
[12:41] <xoRock> is there any software for mounting *.iso?
[12:41] <dev_0> olaaaaaa
[12:41] <togr> xoRock, yes -- mount
[12:41] <Spaceman3750> I was gonna say, Ubuntu will do it by default
[12:41] <xoRock> togr, thx budy
[12:42] <SlimeyPete> xoRock: http://thomer.com/howtos/mount_loopback.html
[12:42] <togr> xoRock, sure, any time!
[12:47] <togr> anyone know how to suppress join/leave messages in xchat?
[12:48] <askand> Someone else got problems with amsn today?
[12:50] <efaistos_> hi
[12:50] <fiXXXerMet> I'm trying to get one of my disks (/dev/sda1) to mount to /mount/disk/ on boot, but I can't figure it out.  Also, when i do it manually (double click on disk in My Computer), it asks me for a password (root).
[12:50] <efaistos_> trying to update a desktop to a feisty but git a lot of errors around python and aptitude doesnt really help
[12:51] <efaistos_> any idea ?
[12:51] <gbustos> ola
[12:51] <dahmind> Hi, i just installed ubuntu on a hp and after a hard reset my computer doesn't boot anymore. Get error 17 from grub. anyone any ideas?
[12:51] <togr> fiXXXerMet, can you edit /etc/fstab ?
[12:51] <Electronbeam> hihi
[12:51] <Electronbeam> how is everyone
[12:52] <fiXXXerMet> togr: yes I can
[12:52] <Electronbeam> ive got a question
[12:52] <togr> fiXXXerMet, do you understand the format of that file?
[12:52] <fiXXXerMet> I believe I do (though the options and type confuse me)
[12:52] <fiXXXerMet> (and dump and pass)
[12:53] <Electronbeam> how do i set the audio capture to what i hear (similar to stereo mix in windows0
[12:53] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[12:53] <seb89> Hi everyone
[12:53] <togr> fiXXXerMet, try using the options used for the filesystem which is most similar to the one you want to add
[12:53] <Homer_Simpson> Hi my internet explorer will not install, can someone help?
[12:53] <fiXXXerMet> togr: I shall try.  That's all I need?  What about why it's asking me for a password when I open it the first time?
[12:54] <togr> "type" is filesystem type, i.e. fat16, ext2, etc
[12:54] <perlmonkey> kmail is killin me! I'm having problems with it freezing every time it starts, just locks up after checking mail.. getting lots of weird msgs in terminal, not sure if its relevant: kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.  kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel( kacc = 0x8175d50 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "display_message"   /bin/sh: crm: not found
[12:54] <togr> the system asks you for passwd because you try to mount it as an ordinary user at runtime
[12:54] <Electronbeam> how do i set the audio capture to what i hear (similar to stereo mix in windows)
[12:54] <Homer_Simpson> my ie wont install, can anyone help?
[12:54] <Electronbeam> i need to be able to record my wave out
[12:55] <togr> if it is listed in /etc/fstab with appropriate flags it should be mounted as part of bringing the system online
[12:55] <Homer_Simpson> what?
[12:55] <fiXXXerMet> How is /dev/sdc1       /media/disk     reiserfs defaults       0       0
[12:55] <Homer_Simpson> not sure
[12:55] <Homer_Simpson> so i can find that where?
[12:55] <togr> fiXXXerMet, is this one you had before or the one you want to add?
[12:56] <fiXXXerMet> Um, both.  Whenever I add it, I have to do so again at restart.
[12:56] <Homer_Simpson> it doesnt ask me to restart!
[12:56] <seb89> hello I'm not american so excuse me if I don't speak very well. Can someone help me because I'have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 for graphic card and I'm not sure it is compatible with ubuntu
[12:56] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: audicity?
[12:56] <Homer_Simpson> its not my graphics, its ie
[12:56] <Electronbeam> audacity?
[12:56] <perlmonkey> yeah
[12:56] <Electronbeam> if i dl that it should work?
[12:56] <Homer_Simpson> my friend has that
[12:56] <Homer_Simpson> I cant dl, i have no internet
[12:56] <perlmonkey> I think it might
[12:57] <Homer_Simpson> i cant
[12:57] <Electronbeam> the thing is i dont just need to record my wav out mix
[12:57] <Electronbeam> i need it to be a source
[12:57] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: just for fun you could try dd on audio device also?
[12:57] <Electronbeam> so i can use it on stickam
[12:57] <Homer_Simpson> i dont want sound, just ie
[12:57] <togr> fiXXXerMet, are you saying your system is rewriting /etc/fstab for you?
[12:57] <Electronbeam> dd?
[12:57] <askand>  Someone else got problems with amsn today?
[12:57] <Homer_Simpson> what? where do i find that?
[12:57] <Homer_Simpson> im using irc not msn
[12:57] <perlmonkey> man dd
[12:57] <Homer_Simpson> ?
[12:58] <Electronbeam> sorry, im not a unix expert
[12:58] <fiXXXerMet> togr: I don't know (/dev/sdc1 wasn't in there before).  When I turn on the computer, I have to go to Places -> Computer and open the drive from there.  It asks me for a password, then mounts the drive for me.
[12:58] <perlmonkey> dd can write data from a device to a file
[12:58] <Electronbeam> lamens terms please
[12:58] <fiXXXerMet> I want to automate that.
[12:58] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: that was lamens terms ;-)
[12:58] <troopperi_> Homer_Simpson: what are you installing and what system
[12:58] <Electronbeam> XD i get it now
[12:58] <Homer_Simpson> ie
[12:58] <perlmonkey> cool
[12:59] <togr> fiXXXerMet, okay.  When you *have* added it manually, the line you pasted has been added to /etc/fstab, correct?
[12:59] <Homer_Simpson> i got the mac version, it looks cooler
[12:59] <Homer_Simpson> but it wont install
[12:59] <fiXXXerMet> Yes
[12:59] <fiXXXerMet> Wait,  no, not it hasn't
[12:59] <togr> okay
[12:59] <fiXXXerMet> I did however just add that line to /etc/fstab by hand.
[12:59] <togr> where did you get that line then?
[12:59] <Homer_Simpson> can oyu help me?
[12:59] <perlmonkey> "I'm like you! we're the same you and I, we're the same! I wanna help you"
[12:59] <Electronbeam> homer
[12:59] <Electronbeam> its not going to work
[12:59] <SlimeyPete> Homer_Simpson: using ies4linux?
[01:00] <fiXXXerMet> togr: I just wrote it into there.
[01:00] <perlmonkey> who knows which movie that quote comes from
[01:00] <troopperi_> Homer_Simpson: i think you cant install m$ software without wine or vmplayer
[01:00] <Homer_Simpson> swhat? i want the mac version
[01:00] <Electronbeam> then get a mac XD
[01:00] <Homer_Simpson> i got ubuntu thoutgh
[01:00] <Electronbeam> yep
[01:00] <SlimeyPete> Homer_Simpson: MacOS software won't run under Linux.
[01:00] <Homer_Simpson> macs dont have the cool features that like linux
[01:00] <Homer_Simpson> why not? can you make it work?
[01:00] <ostannard> you cant insatll mac software without a mac
[01:00] <SlimeyPete> Homer_Simpson: you can use ies4linux (google it) to istall the Windows version under Linux
[01:00] <fiXXXerMet> togr: I guess this should work - I'll find out when I come home from work.  Thank you.
[01:00] <Homer_Simpson> awww why not?
[01:01] <togr> fiXXXerMet, okay -- and you know that the partition and reiserfs is correct?
[01:01] <Homer_Simpson> i dont haave lunux
[01:01] <Electronbeam> because they are two different OS's
[01:01] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: I was able to record audio and video from my video capture device using dd if=/dev/video0 of=/home/file.mpg
[01:01] <Homer_Simpson> I use ubuntu not linux
[01:01] <fiXXXerMet> togr: yes
[01:01] <jurp5> lol iemand op #ubuntu vraagt hou hij internet explorer kan installeren: 12:59 < Homer_Simpson> i got the mac version, it looks cooler
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> Homer_Simpson: no, you can't make it work. MacOS is not Linux. They are different Operating Systems.
[01:01] <Electronbeam> ubuntu IS linux
[01:01] <Homer_Simpson> whats an OS
[01:01] <SlimeyPete> Homer_Simpson: ubuntu is linux
[01:01] <fiXXXerMet> (checked mount after manually mounting the drive)
[01:01] <Electronbeam> operating system
[01:01] <Homer_Simpson> whats an operating system
[01:01] <Sjimmie> lol :)
[01:01] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: I'm wondering if the same could be done from soundcard device
[01:01] <Electronbeam> UBUNTU is an operating system
[01:01] <togr> fiXXXerMet, then it should work -- it should mount by itself next time you boot
[01:01] <Sjimmie>
[01:01] <Sjimmie> adres 	  	AMSTERDAM OOST - Eerste Oosterparkstraat 168 E
[01:01] <troopperi_> !ntfs-3g
[01:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:01] <fiXXXerMet> thank you
[01:01] <Sjimmie>
[01:01] <Electronbeam> perlmonkey: could be but in sound devices i see nothing to fix
[01:01] <Sjimmie> adres 	  	AMSTERDAM OOST - Eerste Oosterparkstraat 168 E
[01:02] <PriceChild> togr, /me is watching
[01:02] <Homer_Simpson> what
[01:02] <SlimeyPete> trolls smell like 14-year-olds, y'know
[01:02] <SlimeyPete> 14-year-olds with greasy hair.
[01:02] <Sjimmie> Homer_Simpson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system
[01:02] <Electronbeam> perlmonkey:  in windows/recording properties/ it has wav out mix or steroe mix
[01:02] <Sjimmie> read it ;)
[01:02] <Electronbeam> perlmonkey: but in ubuntu, i cant find anything of the sort
[01:02] <Homer_Simpson> we dont know what half this stuff is, we got a friend to install ubuntu and get it to work, i just want IE to wrok
[01:03] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: probably want /dev/audio
[01:03] <Electronbeam> Homer_Simpson: use firefox, safer, more secure
[01:03] <Spaceman3750> Homer, I guess you're in a boat load of crap then
[01:03] <Electronbeam> perlmonkey: simplify
[01:03] <Homer_Simpson> IE is so easy and fast and reliable to use, i really need it.
[01:03] <perlmonkey> that is simple
[01:03] <Sjimmie> Homer_Simpson: you can run IE in wine
[01:03] <perlmonkey> can't get any simplier
[01:03] <Spaceman3750> IE isn't fast and reliable
[01:03] <Spaceman3750> It's anything but
[01:03] <Homer_Simpson> I dont like wine, i prefer beer
[01:03] <Homer_Simpson> nd why would i place my pc in wine?
[01:04] <perlmonkey> iE is a major security risk to your system and piracy
[01:04] <Electronbeam> Homer_Simpson: use firefox, that orange and blue thing, it runs like IE but its much more secure
[01:04] <Sjimmie> Homer_Simpson: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer
[01:04] <Electronbeam> deff a troll
[01:04] <Homer_Simpson> i want ie
[01:04] <Sjimmie> Homer_Simpson: just do what the website says
[01:04] <Sjimmie> and you get IE
[01:04] <perlmonkey> haha
[01:04] <Sjimmie> hahaha
[01:04] <Homer_Simpson> ?
[01:04] <Sjimmie> :)
[01:04] <SlimeyPete> where's the any key?
[01:04] <perlmonkey> Spaceman: what happened
[01:04] <Homer_Simpson> that makes no sense
[01:05] <togr> free as in wine
[01:05] <Homer_Simpson> thats an encyclopedia, i want ie
[01:05] <Spaceman3750> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ4aQhq2AjI
[01:05] <Electronbeam> Homer, do what the website says
[01:05] <perlmonkey> woohoo thanks
[01:05] <Sjimmie> Homer_Simpson: my second link, this one http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer
[01:05] <Electronbeam> it will tell you how to get IE
[01:05] <Sjimmie> Homer_Simpson: that will help you
[01:05] <togr> I think the troll has had enough fun
[01:05] <Electronbeam> perlmonkey: im in /dev/
[01:05] <SlimeyPete> he doesn't want IE. He's a troll.  They don't tend to accept defeat ;)
[01:06] <brainiac_ghost> heh
[01:06] <Electronbeam> perlmonkey: is it in /dev/snd?
[01:06] <PlayMeNow> how big should I make the swap partition? I got 256 MB SDRAM (on WinXp it's 256, max: 512)
[01:06] <perlmonkey> Electronbeam: either that one, or audio
[01:06] <megatill> do somebody know how can i start eggdrop at strart up? also to creat a starter with a specific path?
[01:06] <Electronbeam> i have no /dev/audio
[01:06] <Electronbeam> Xd
[01:07] <perlmonkey> ok
[01:07] <vjvc> s
[01:07] <vjvc> s
[01:07] <vjvc> s
[01:07] <vjvc> s
[01:07] <vjvc> s
[01:07] <Spaceman3750> Hmm, while I'm thinking about it...   I got 256 MB SDRAM (on WinXp it's 256, max: 512)
[01:07] <perlmonkey> sure
[01:07] <asc__> PlayMeNow: I recommend 392. If you actually use 512 swap, it'll be unusable from constant paging.
[01:07] <perlmonkey> PlayMeNow: generally speaking, 2x your physical memory
[01:07] <stefg> PlayMeNow: 256 to 384 MB
[01:07] <PlayMeNow> thanks asc_
[01:08] <Spaceman3750> Is there some Ubuntu quirk with Flash and sound?
[01:08] <bluey> PlayMeNow: At least enough to fit the whole ram if you want to hibernate. Twice the ram is the usual, less common with the ram size increases.
[01:08] <neonlinux> hey all, when browsing the net, where does the history/cache/ temp files get stored for firefox?
[01:08] <moDumass> hey all, does anyone have any idea how to customise Ktorrent? mine doesnt show the files associated with a torrent anymore- ie a torrent may be 3 files, how do i get that back?
[01:08] <asc__> Or you can use other numbers. I actually meant 384. :p
[01:08] <SlimeyPete> neonlinux: ~/.mozilla
[01:08] <PlayMeNow> and the ext3 should be primary or extended? I'd guess primary
[01:08] <perlmonkey> my kmail is really messed up :-/
[01:09] <Nightroad_X> speak Spanish ?
[01:09] <neonlinux> SlimeyPete: rats.. is that the only place.. not in tm or anything?
[01:09] <ilikec0ws> !es | Nightroad_X
[01:09] <ubotu> Nightroad_X: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:09] <neonlinux> *tmp
[01:09] <SlimeyPete> neonlinux: it might shove some stuff in /tmp I guess
[01:09] <Nightroad_X> thanks ^
[01:09] <SlimeyPete> but I'm not aware of any other locatios
[01:09] <asc__> PlayMeNow: Probably. Only need to use extended if you have more than four or five partitions.
[01:09] <neonlinux> SlimeyPete: ok thanks
[01:09] <neonlinux> :)
[01:10] <PlayMeNow> ok thanks goodbye
[01:11] <megatill> do somebody know how can i start eggdrop at strart up? also to creat a starter with a specific path?
[01:11] <heatxsink> aw crap you guys are gonna hate me, I didn't bookmark that link to making debs! sorry, could someone hook that up?
[01:11] <Slart> Hello, If I use gnome/nautilus to copy/move a file/folder I can't use nautilus to while it's still copying, it just waits until the copy/move is finished until it lets me do anything.. is this a feature? annoying thing that might get fixed in the future? fixable by me with some kind of setting?
[01:13] <Slart> megatill: startup when computer boots up? or when you log in? in ubuntu you have system, proferences, sessions where you can put stuff that you want to run when you log on
[01:14] <megatill> Slart: i know; when i log in; it'S for unreal for example; if i make that: home/megatill/Unreal3.2/unreal ./unreal start     that works not and i don'T know why
[01:14] <heatxsink> ??
[01:15] <ilu> can someone help me pwss
[01:15] <Slart> megatill: hmm.. I use sessions to start pidgeon and do some network folder mapping and it seems to work..
[01:15] <perlmonkey> ilu: what happened? I thought you fixed it
[01:15] <ghatak> Hi, i am trying to install NessusClient on my system, Edgy 6.10. I get the following error. nessusclient depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8c-1); however: Version of libssl0.9.8 on system is 0.9.8b-2ubuntu2.
[01:15] <megatill> Slart: hm
[01:15] <ghatak> What can i do to fix it
[01:15] <Slart> megatill: make sure you use absolute path names
[01:15] <ilu> when i start something in a consol i always need to open another one because that one is used... is there a way to start several apps in the same concol?
[01:15] <ilu> perlmonkey :))
[01:15] <megatill> its the real path to unreal3.2
[01:16] <Slart> megatill: very odd.. nothing in the logs?
[01:16] <megatill> moment please
[01:16] <IdleOne> ilu, in terminal : click on file and open new tab
[01:16] <perlmonkey> ilu: are you using shells in X or outside X?
[01:17] <perlmonkey> yeah open new tabs instead of terminals
[01:17] <ilu> ahh
[01:17] <ilu> thanks mates
[01:17] <ilu> :)
[01:17] <perlmonkey> :)
[01:18] <ilu> btw i have a tip for yall.. try out 'elinks' url browser... lol its text based
[01:18] <togr> ilu, shift-ctrl-T gives you a new tab
[01:18] <perlmonkey> ok kmail is really starting to get on my tits now
[01:18] <Slart> megatill: hmm.. looking at your command.. you have ./unreal start in there.. that might be the problem.. ./ would be some kind of current path thingy.. try making it into an absolute path
[01:18] <IdleOne> !ohmy | perlmonkey
[01:18] <ubotu> perlmonkey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:18] <Slart> ilu: it's great when x won't start and you need to search teh web for how to fix it.. =)
[01:18] <perlmonkey> IdleOne: apologies
[01:19] <megatill> Slart: ok thanks i'll test it
 lol i use it for youtbue and everything... its neat
[01:19] <togr> tits is a family of birds
[01:19] <ilu> i download flash movies to my computer and watch them there
[01:19] <togr> the largest of which is called "great tit"
[01:19] <perlmonkey> hehe
[01:19] <ilu> via 'save youtube movies'
[01:19] <bastid_raZor> IdleOne,  like tits is a bad word.. what a pansy
[01:19] <perlmonkey> true
[01:19] <Slart> ilu: hehe.. how do you watch flash movies in console? some kind of frame buffer player?
[01:19] <perlmonkey> look at my great big tits
[01:20] <togr> I understand researchers who work with great tits have problems finding relevant material on the web
 i download stuff via elinks... then i use 'mplayer' that starts a little window for the movie file
[01:20] <perlmonkey> maybe man tits are less offensive to IdleOne than the feathered tits
[01:20] <moDumass> hey all how do i get my ktorrent to show the "status"  and "files" tab in the bottom of the GUI like it used to?
[01:20] <IdleOne> !ops
[01:20] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:20] <bastid_raZor> perlmonkey, that would be teets?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: ?
[01:21] <Slart> ilu: ah.. ok
[01:21] <IdleOne> bastid_raZor, and perlmonkey
[01:21] <togr> or "teats"
[01:21] <perlmonkey> sorry, strayed in troll territory then
[01:21] <perlmonkey> :P
[01:21] <perlmonkey> bastid_raZor lol
[01:21] <gnomefreak> bastid_raZor: perlmonkey stay on topic
[01:21] <ilu> Slart> lol u thought i watched movies in zeros and onces? xD
[01:21] <bastid_raZor> perlmonkey, we've upset the tattle tail
[01:21] <perlmonkey> that's it done now
[01:21] <Slart> ilu: hehe.. well there is an ascii output filter for vlc =)
[01:22] <ilu> lol
[01:22] <IdleOne> ty gnomefreak
[01:22] <efaistos_> do you know if beryl can run on a matrox millenium g450 dual ?
[01:22] <ilu> i think i will recommend some people i know to download ubuntu instead of upgrading to windows vista
[01:23] <ilu> vista costs alot and is no real change from xp... i mean the windows concept is already invented
[01:23] <perlmonkey> ok, I'm having problems with my kmail..its gone teets up and I dunno why.
[01:23] <Slart> efaistos_: I think beryl runs on most graphics cards.. don't know if it can handle *all* the bling bling that beryl provides but I think it will run
[01:23] <togr> anyone know how to suppress join/leave messages in xchat?
[01:23] <IdleOne> togr, in the preferrences
[01:23] <veni> hi, hi, i have a very imp data in my harddisk which is lvm partition of my existing harddisk
[01:23] <ilikec0ws> efaistos_, I thought beryl only supports nvidia ati and intels
[01:23] <ilikec0ws> efaistos_, Ask in #beryl
[01:24] <Slart> ilu: I just got myself a small laptop with vista included..  it's pretty nice, but I don't think it's worth the money.. but it's still nice
[01:24] <veni> now I am not able to mount that particular harddisk partitiion
[01:24] <efaistos_> ilikec0ws: nodoby anszwering there
[01:24] <togr> IdleOne, I *have* looked there -- could you be more specific please?
[01:24] <perlmonkey> nvidia are fine cards, but I dunno about these cheaper manufacturers using nvidia chipsets
[01:24] <veni> need help in recovering the data from that harddisk partition
[01:24] <IdleOne> togr, let me look...
[01:24] <ilikec0ws> efaistos_, I think its only on them card though, but dont take that as  a certain :)
[01:24] <perlmonkey> veni: testdisk is your friend
[01:25] <veni> perlmonkey, i dint get what u r saying
 dont know man i used it for a couple of months and i just switched to 'windows classic' mode in the end. and that got me thinking that microsoft has hit some kind of wall... i mean the concept is already invented... there is nothing more to do
[01:25] <perlmonkey> veni: try testdisk and photorec if you want to recover data from a borked parition, its not guaranteed, could be a last resort
[01:26] <veni> perlmonkey, i dont have any command like testdisk
[01:26] <IdleOne> togr, I cant seem to find it either. try asking in #xchat
[01:26] <ilikec0ws> ilu, I actually like the windows interface, its just a shame its like a memory hogger
[01:26] <badkitty> Wow beryl with twinview rocks
[01:26] <perlmonkey> veni: install it
 for example. i think alot of corporations will argue in the same way as me
[01:26] <ilu> they will think like this "we can stay on xp with office 03'
[01:26] <streather> hey guys
[01:26] <perlmonkey> openoffice matches msoffice eh
[01:27] <Slart> ilu: yes, I switched to classic mode too.. to save some battery time.. but not because I didn't like aero or anything... I can only compare it windows 2000.. but this is getting off topic.. back to ubuntu
[01:27] <ilu> OOo rox... works for all my tasks...
[01:27] <asc__> Anybody getting checksum mismatches on the flashplayer-nonfree package?
[01:27] <Slart> OOo sucks at handling dates in charts.. just noticed =/
[01:27] <streather> can someone help me with an error i keep getting everytime i go to install something?
 yeah sorry i am not here to bash microsoft or anything...
[01:28] <badkitty> off-hand... does anyone know the best way to make an appliance out of a windows xp environment
[01:28] <togr> IdleOne, found it
[01:28] <Pici> badkitty: ##windows ;)
 i use the calc all the time and thuss far i have had no issues... only some minor stuff...
[01:28] <togr> right-click on channel tab
[01:28] <badkitty> ;-) pici
[01:28] <Pici> asc__: Yes, its a known error, afaik, its being looked at.
[01:28] <asc__> Pici: Thanks.
[01:28] <IdleOne> togr, ty good to know
[01:29] <IdleOne> streather, what is the error
[01:29] <ilu> what command do i use in the terminal to get a listing of all my hardware?
[01:29] <Slart> ilu: yes, same here.. I've used OOo for a year or two.. never ran into an big problems before.. but try making a chart with some dates on the x-axis.. my OOo started eating memory, almost crashed my box before I killed it... tried again and it just does all kinds of weird stuff with my dates..
[01:30] <Pici> ilu: lshw
 you need to install the new ooo... they have fixed alot of bugs
[01:30] <Ind[y] > Can I install gnome-sudoku and glChess without installing the whole gnome-games package (I want to install these two through the package manager)?
 thanks
[01:31] <Slart> ilu: well.. I rarely include dates in my charts so i'll be fine with the repo-version for now... it's nice that they keep fixing things, improving it etc
[01:31] <IdleOne> Ind[y] , seems it is part of the package and wont let you install seperately
[01:32] <IdleOne> Ind[y] , but I might be wrong
[01:32] <Ind[y] > IdleOne: ok :/
 it would not surprise me that small and middle size corporations will switch to ooo in maybe three years when ooo is roughly as powerful as ms office 2003 witch is standard in all corporation work
[01:32] <tmske> Hi, anyone an idea what can be wrong with the powermanagement on my laptop, it's an easynote r1903 (Packard Bell), the powermanager can't see the cpu freq and screen dimming doesn't work either when I switch to battery
[01:33] <Slart> ilu: perhaps.. but OOo still has some way to go when it comes to the advanced stuff.. there are lots of office macros out there written for microsoft office
[01:33] <Slart> ilu: I just wish they would make calc include more math stuff.. so you can use it as a light mode replacement for ..ie.. matlab and such
[01:35] <askand> I have a problem with vnc...when I connect to another uuntu computer with built in "remote desktop" and vncviewer I can see the screen on vncviewer but not changes(I close a folde on the other computer but it doesnt show on vncviewer) is that a bug?
[01:35] <blubloblu> How can I restore all my wireless drivers, preferences, configuration, etc... to it's default state? I tried to get my Netgear WG111v2 working better my using ndiswrapper but now it just doesn't work. I'm using the live cd which works
[01:37] <snake_> i can not run compiz fusion and i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29636/
[01:37] <snake_> can anyone help me please
[01:37] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: i have Netgear WG511T
[01:37] <xoqa> what's the default graphics library used with ubuntu?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> xoqa: gtk
[01:38] <xoqa> ah
[01:38] <Ind[y] > Can I download/install PyGTKGlExt through the package manager?
[01:38] <veni> hi, my fdisk -l output is as per http://pastebin.ca/615956
[01:38] <Ind[y] > I mean, is there a package on the repos?
[01:38] <xoqa> gnomefreak: right, and gnome i presume.
[01:38] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, is the chipset the same do you know?
[01:38] <veni> now i want to mount the sdb1 partition and get the data on it, how can I do that
[01:38] <xoqa> gnomefreak: thanks
[01:38] <veni> help needed please
[01:38] <gnomefreak> xoqa: yw
[01:38] <perlmonkey> blubloblue: i will check for you, just a sec
[01:39] <Darks3c> hi
[01:39] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: just booting it up, I got that card to work quite easily in Ubuntu using wpa_supplicant with ndiswrapper mode
[01:40] <snake_> can anyone help me please
[01:40] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, the wg111v2?
[01:40] <gunfighter> snake_, i guess
[01:40] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: the WG511T
[01:40] <Spaceman3750> Anyone see ASC
[01:40] <Spaceman3750> ?
[01:40] <asc__> Spaceman3750: I saw him earlier.
[01:40] <crusty> fgh
[01:40] <crusty> dsfg
[01:40] <crusty> sdfg
[01:41] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, wpa isn't an issue for me, i have a nice and unsecured network because my other windoze box doesnt support encryption for some reason
[01:41] <IdleOne> !backports > IdleOne
[01:41] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: just checked, it the 511T has the Autheros chipset AR5212
[01:41] <perlmonkey> *Atheros
[01:42] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: ok should be even easier than
[01:42] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: what prob you having?
[01:42] <snipex> i installed kubuntu-desktop package from synaptic and then restarted comp it said kubuntu is loading but my desktop is still GNOME, whys that ?
[01:42] <blubloblu> perlmonkey: it seems to disconnect from the network every 5mins
[01:42] <Ind[y] > Can I download/install PyGTKGlExt through the package manager?
[01:42] <JayRoe> is it possible to uninstall v4l-dvb?
[01:43] <perlmonkey> phew
[01:43] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, i have to click on the network manager to reconnect, very annoying
[01:43] <perlmonkey> :-/
[01:43] <perlmonkey> I can imagine
[01:43] <jdt> hey, does anyone know how to get a tail of messages onto the background of gnome display. I have played with root-portal applet but couldnt get it to work
[01:43] <xipietotec> snipex, change sessions in the options before you login, and set that as your default if you want kubuntu to be the default every time
[01:43] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, i'm assuming it's a driver issue
[01:43] <rixon> Any ideas why I can't suddenly connect encrypted wifi networks?
[01:43] <snipex> ok ty for help ill try
[01:43] <perlmonkey> anything in messages log?
[01:44] <blubloblu> i'm livecding right now
[01:44] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, what log should i look in?
[01:46] <n4t> ciao a tutti
[01:46] <LucianIndy> i keep trying to update my clamav signatures but it keeps saying they are 91 days old. i used sudo clamav-getfiles and it said they were updated but when i load the gui 'clamtk' it says otherwise
[01:46] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: tail -100 /var/log/messages should reveal something
[01:46] <n4t> hi all
[01:46] <n4t> how can I avoid knit: no resume image doing normal boot???
[01:47] <perlmonkey> I have an annoying problem? with my wifi nic whereby it has to be manually taken down and brought up again before I can use it, doesnt seem to get started on boot up
[01:47] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, a lot of gconfd stuff, and some message handler not found wlan0
[01:48] <Tama00> is it possible to have a PXE install server without running your own DHCP server on the same box
[01:48] <Tama00> because i already got a router that handles the DHCP
[01:48] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: is your /etc/network/interfaces ok?
[01:48] <stefg> n4t: this is no error, but just an info, that it's not a resume from hibernation, but a normal boot. nothing to worry abut
[01:49] <RGautier> DHCP should be independent of PXE
[01:49] <crusty> #ubuntu-de
[01:50] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29637/
[01:50] <n4t> stefg: because it says trying to resume from image ....and after it says that no resume image... I would delete this sort of damaged image
[01:50] <victimsoul> hey people, i'm getting some constant network activity from an unidentiied program (ubuntu feisty 7.1) and i was hoping someone could tell me how to identify it?
[01:51] <KingGhost> p seanw ?
[01:51] <seanw> Hey?
[01:51] <seanw> Can I help?
[01:51] <perlmonkey> phew you have dhcp assigned IP's eh
[01:51] <t2__> hi,  can someone tell me how to get the best drivers for old ATI Radeon 7200 ?   I want it to support 1440*900 resolution like it does in Windows.  thanks
[01:51] <KingGhost> yeah
[01:51] <KingGhost> whois :)
[01:51] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: I wonder if it's a dhcp problem
[01:52] <t2__> i read online that fglrx is not supporting of this old card
[01:52] <KingGhost> ^ ^
[01:52] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, i have a router at home. It seems to be configured right
[01:52] <gjohn> hello
[01:52] <Pici> victimsoul: check out the output of `netstat -tanp`
[01:52] <stefg> n4t: you're misunderstanding this. The kernel looks, if the swap space holds a hibernation image (trying to resume...) then finds there is  none, then just proceeds to boot ... everything is well
[01:52] <victimsoul> thanks pici
[01:52] <gjohn> wubi can install ubuntu server
[01:52] <wers> can I install gentoo ebuilds in ubuntu?
[01:52] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: do you need dhcp option on wifi card?
[01:52] <n4t> stefg: ok thanks
[01:53] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, what do you mean?
[01:53] <gjohn> wubi can install ubuntu server?
[01:53] <perlmonkey> you have dhcp in your interfaces
[01:54] <askand> I have a problem with vnc...when I connect to another uuntu computer with built in "remote desktop" and vncviewer I can see the screen on vncviewer but not changes(I close a folde on the other computer but it doesnt show on vncviewer) is that a bug?
[01:54] <eoshi> hey all
[01:54] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, yes...
[01:54] <eoshi> if youre have an secondhand laptop, and you're not use it. I want to get your laptop
[01:55] <eoshi> I need that laptop to learn more computer, because I'm dont have an computer
[01:55] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: all I can suggest is maybe commenting out dhcp and restarting wifi nic to see if card/connection to LAN remains stable?
[01:55] <n4t> does exist a simple package that allow to see the amount of traffic and to disconnect internet if it is bigger than for example 50 MB
[01:56] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: need to try and narrow down the problem eh
[01:56] <perlmonkey> put in a static IP address
[01:56] <LucianIndy> is it possible to take all the packages I have on my ubuntu and create a ubuntu os installation distro cd that includes those packages?
[01:56] <asc__> Anybody have problems with flash player sound not working?
[01:57] <wers> can gentoo ebuilds be installed on ubuntu?
[01:57] <IdleOne> !cloning | LucianIndy
[01:57] <ubotu> LucianIndy: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[01:57] <perlmonkey> I dont use flash
[01:58] <asc__> Good man.
[01:58] <perlmonkey> everyone nags me to install it, but i dont want commercial software tainting my system
[01:58] <asc__> There's a free version somewhere.
[01:58] <perlmonkey> oh
[01:58] <stefg> !info gnash
[01:58] <ubotu> gnash: free Flash movie player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1build1 (feisty), package size 117 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:58] <perlmonkey> cool
[01:58] <perlmonkey> I will get gnash
[01:58] <Turbooster> hi
[01:59] <dcordes> hi
[01:59] <LucianIndy> IdleOne, that creates a 32kb text file which will do no good to a computer that does not have an internet connection
[01:59] <perlmonkey> hehe
[01:59] <Turbooster> I have problems with evolution mail
[01:59] <perlmonkey> I have problems with kmail
[01:59] <stefg> who desnt ? :-)
[01:59] <turbo> hm
[01:59] <perlmonkey> I stopped using evolution mail cuz it was so heavy and unstable
[02:00] <turbo> Does evolution-alarm-notify work on a clean install?
[02:00] <perlmonkey> not sure but I see it running often
[02:01] <stefg> ugh, ubuntu might be buggy, but one would expect this to be working
[02:01] <perlmonkey> I've tried to purge my system of evolution stuff but it always pops up in processes still
[02:01] <turbo> and has anybody experienced the problem:
[02:02] <turbo> I cant receive mails from 2 different yahoo accounts at the same time
[02:02] <turbo> but I can't make them be recieved one after another
[02:03] <stefg> turbo: every now and then, i /really/ give evo a try. usually after new ubuntu releases. and *always after ten days or so, i can't stand it no longer and turn back to thunderbird
[02:03] <perlmonkey> oh
[02:03] <turbo> but thunderbird didn't work at all in ubuntu
[02:03] <perlmonkey> maybe the remote server is only allowing one connection
[02:03] <perlmonkey> to stop people overloading it
[02:03] <turbo> tb used to get every mail EVERY time
[02:03] <turbo> meaning 500+ mails every 10 minutes...
[02:03] <stefg> !doesn't work | turbo
[02:03] <ubotu> turbo: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:04] <perlmonkey> haha
[02:04] <turbo> funny the first time. But then...
[02:04] <asc__> turbo: It's never done anything like that for me.
[02:04] <k7> hello
[02:04] <turbo> I love it in windows where it 'just works'
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> thunderbird has not given me any problems
[02:04] <turbo> *tb I mean
[02:04] <d1006> Hey guys - im trying to set up one key on my keyboard to repeat itself until its toggeled off. ie press the key, it repeats the keystroke eveyr .2s or whatever until i press that key again - does anyone know of a way to do this? (basically setting up the key as a turbo key i guess)
[02:05] <perlmonkey> mail clients r a big mystery
[02:05] <stefg> turbo: given the fact that you have problems with all the coomon e-mail clients i suspect your misconfiguring something
[02:05] <turbo> So what mailclient do you suggest?
[02:05] <alesan> hi
[02:05] <blubloblu1> perlmonkey, I'm back, i just disconnected for a sec there. It took ages to reconnect
[02:05] <turbo> connectionwise I don't methinks
[02:05] <n4t> how can I see a version of a package with apt?
[02:05] <stefg> turbo: thunderbird, for Joe Average (not needing exchange compatibility)
[02:06] <turbo> thanks I'm gonna try tb again then!
[02:06] <perlmonkey> blubloblu1: not sure if you saw my last msgs, I was suggesting perhaps see if dhcp is responsible for the problem somehow, try and isolate the problem? maybe comment out dhcp for the nic and assigned static IP and see if LAN access remains ok
[02:07] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, ok, i'll try that
[02:07] <alesan> I have a  "ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] " card in my system. should I install some particular driver to be able to use it? right now I'm in vesa mode
[02:07] <stefg> turbo: some guy set up a thunderbird 2.0 repo for feisty. the standard repos still hold 1.5
[02:07] <perlmonkey> could be a way to rule out a driver problem eh
[02:07] <turbo> Is 2.0 stable?
[02:07] <blubloblu> perlmonkey, do i just put the static ip where dhcp used to be in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:08] <scoldog_> Can Rhythmbox be controlled over a network?
[02:08] <stefg> turbo, yes... no issues here (or no other issues then 1.5 :-) )
[02:08] <turbo> stefg:Thanks! I'm gonna startexperimenting then... ;)
[02:09] <perlmonkey> blubloblu: you want it looking like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29638/
[02:09] <stefg> turbo, here's the repo for TB 2.0: deb http://ubuntu.iuculano.it feisty thunderbird
[02:10] <freestyler> hi
[02:11] <Belboz99> Hey all, I've got a problem with my xserver, I'm trying to output to a TV and a TV only,  however, once booted the screen just remains black.  I can switch to a terminal session OK, and that displays fine.   gdm restarts without error, yet still my screen is black, ideas?
[02:12] <Nuktar> hi! I was wondering if somebody knows a repository with games. Some games, like freecnc, warsow, UFO Alien Invansion aren't in standart Feisty repos. Thanks in advance.
[02:12] <stefg> Belboz99: the resolution might be set too high, so the TV dosn't sync
[02:13] <perlmonkey> stefg: you're good
[02:13] <perlmonkey> I just got my TV out card working yesterday after much messing, and several hours
[02:14] <perlmonkey> turns out I was using the wrong driver, needed nvidia-flx-new instead of nvidia-flx
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Belboz99: has it worked before (even in windows) and at what res/sync
[02:14] <stefg> which is nvidia-glx, actually
[02:14] <perlmonkey> I very nearly hacked up all my cables too, after seeing lots of posts on the subject advising to link wires up in the svideo/scart connectors
[02:15] <xizdaqrian> Pensacola
[02:15] <Pensacola> xizdaqrian
[02:15] <xizdaqrian> Are you from p'cola?
[02:15] <dev_0> ola everybody
[02:15] <perlmonkey> stefg: that's odd then, I dunno why it suddenly started working when I upgraded to the new driver, all I got on the original driver was black & white picture and some interference
[02:15] <dev_0> can you help me
[02:15] <Pensacola> no I'm not :)
[02:16] <dev_0> I've something problem here
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> dev_0: just ask
[02:16] <IdleOne> dev_0, describe issue and ask a question
[02:16] <xizdaqrian> what's the prob dev?
[02:16] <perlmonkey> stefg: do you use TV-out card? which card?
[02:16] <dev_0> there is something problem with my soundcard
[02:16] <dev_0> I've install all codec and driver but still no sound / mute
[02:17] <IdleOne> !sound | dev_0
[02:17] <stefg> perlmonkey: tho i have an FX5200, i don't use TV out (don't own a TV anymore)
[02:17] <dev_0> !sound
[02:17] <perlmonkey> stefg: ok, same card as me
[02:17] <IdleOne> !alsa | dev_0
[02:17] <xizdaqrian> Have you checked your volume settings?
[02:17] <dev_0> !alsa
[02:17] <IdleOne> is ubotu not working?
[02:17] <ubotu> dev_0: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:17] <dev_0> I've already check all
[02:17] <xizdaqrian> Alsa sometimes starts out mute after activating the drivers
[02:17] <dev_0> everything is good
[02:18] <xizdaqrian> have you used lsmod to see if the drivers loaded?
[02:18] <stefg> !intelhda | xizdaqrian
[02:18] <ubotu> xizdaqrian: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:18] <perlmonkey> stefg: is that card you have made by Nvidia or some other firm using the fx5200 chipset? I got a card from XFX and I'm not too impressed by it I must say
[02:18] <dev_0> no I haven't tried yet, but I will
[02:18] <dev_0> how to use lsmod
[02:19] <perlmonkey> man lsmod
[02:19] <xizdaqrian> run sudo lsmod | grep sound or maybe grep alsa
[02:19] <stefg> perlmonkey: some 'i don't remember'-brand. I don't care too much, my video needs are pretty basic
[02:19] <perlmonkey> stefg: seems reasonable
[02:20] <mdmkolbe3> Where can I find the tracker to download ubuntu with bittorent?
[02:20] <perlmonkey> I'm just interested in comparing experiences of fx5200 cards to see if it's worth replacing mine
[02:20] <dev_0> it is listed like this soundcore               8672  2 snd
[02:20] <dev_0> what is that
[02:20] <IdleOne> mdmkolbe, www.ubuntu.com
[02:20] <perlmonkey> thats the sound device
[02:21] <Pici> !torrents | mdmkolbe3
[02:21] <ubotu> mdmkolbe3: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[02:21] <viden> How do i make metacity my default window manager?  When i do metacity --replace in a terminal it says : Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded".  And when i close that terminal window metacity goes away.
[02:21] <xizdaqrian> mdmkolbe3 -> from ubuntu's website
[02:21] <perlmonkey> /dev/snd
[02:21] <dev_0> what is /dev/snd
[02:21] <perlmonkey> soundcard device
[02:21] <Teres__> i have an external hd that is in ntfs format and i need 2 use it with my linux machine...wat do i do?
[02:22] <dev_0> so, that the problem or nothing
[02:22] <Belboz99> hey, why does Xorg.0.log say this:
[02:22] <Belboz99> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "TVOutput" is not used
[02:22] <Belboz99> ?
[02:22] <IdleOne> !ntfs | Teres_
[02:22] <ubotu> Teres_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:22] <Teres__> !ntfs-3g
[02:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:22] <Teres__> !fuse
[02:22] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:22] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: what card do you have?
[02:23] <mdmkolbe3> Pici: thx
[02:23] <dev_0> should I install again the driver
[02:23] <ffm> !jvm
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <ffm> !java
[02:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:23] <Teres__> wat is the correct filesystem 4 ubuntu?
[02:23] <viden> ext3
[02:24] <mdmkolbe3> xizdaqrian: I was not able to find it directly on the web site, maybe I just didn't happen to look in the right place
[02:24] <Teres__> so how do i make my drive ext3?
[02:24] <viden> but you can use that ntfs drive just fine.  ntfs-3g will slow things down though .. just fyi from my experience.  You can read that drive out of the gate just do a sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[02:24] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: Nvidia 6200,  LE IIRC
[02:24] <n4t> re
[02:24] <viden> Teres__:  sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:24] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: cool
[02:24] <viden> How do i make metacity my default window manager?  When i do metacity --replace in a terminal it says : Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded".  And when i close that terminal window metacity goes away.
[02:24] <beni> Hey my ubuntu server installation is running into Problems, Intel i430vx Chipset, 200Mhz & 64MB ram, the setuproutine doesnt contienue and always restarts due to too few memory ("Swap 0MB, Total 0MB") How can I install Ubuntu anyway??
[02:25] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: do you have installed nvidia-settings?
[02:25] <xizdaqrian> mdm -> it should be right there in the d/l section, lemme' check for you
[02:25] <mkultrix> i had a disk fail on my software raid array, i replaced it, it seemed to boot up fine, how can i check the status of my software raid array?
[02:25] <mkultrix> i have a /dev/md0 for my /home partition
[02:25] <badkitty> beni ... I'm not sure, but can you create a swap, sounds like that owuld help
[02:25] <badkitty> would*
[02:26] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: installing now
[02:26] <asc__> viden: Uh, can you select metacity from the 'session' list in gdm?
[02:26] <stefg> beni: what are you going to use that box for?
[02:26] <grim76> mkultrix: try man mdadm
[02:26] <perlmonkey> mkultrix: cat /proc/mdstat
[02:26] <beni> badkitty: the setup didnt ask for this... i just set up my keyboard scheme and then it searched the hardware and then it loaded the installtion stuff and then it crashes, and showing only "Killed\nKilled\n[...] " on the screen
[02:26] <viden> asc__:   you mean add it as a startup item ?
[02:26] <beni> stefg: file server
[02:26] <beni> I just need SMB and sshd imho
[02:27] <KingGhost> mr_sleeping >
[02:27] <KingGhost> ???
[02:27] <badkitty> beni when you do the partitioning part of the drives (gparted) you should be able to set the  swap partition
[02:27] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: no change :(
[02:27] <KingGhost> where
[02:27] <beni> badkitty: i didnt reach this stage of setup
[02:27] <Teres__> i still cant paste files into the drive
[02:27] <asc__> viden: When the login screen comes up, there's usually a button that lets you select different WMs.
[02:27] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: you want tv out?
[02:27] <Teres__> and i used the g3 thing
[02:27] <whatspy> hi, what is the name of the application that "serves" the ssh protocol ?
[02:27] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: what good is a GUI app when I can't see the GUI?
[02:27] <stefg> beni: although you could try to get along with a minimal install, you'll need more Ram for a fileserver anyway for reasonable performance
[02:27] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: yes
[02:28] <Belboz99> I'm configuring it from an SSH terminal
[02:28] <asc__> viden: Although I have to admit I have no idea how one starts metacity, since it's already installed and I don't think it appears in that list for me.
[02:28] <xizdaqrian> mdmkolbe3 -> Look on this page http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[02:28] <Teres__> viden: the g3 thing never worked...i still cant paste files into the drive
[02:28] <mkultrix> ah ok thanks i see active raid5 hdk1[0]  hdi1[4]  hdc[3]  hdg[1]  , so that means its using all 4 of my drives
[02:28] <viden> asc__:  you mean the options button .. yeah the options are gnome and gnome failsafe ... or run the script ... all do the same thing it appears.  Beryl some how screwed up things when i uninstalled it
[02:28] <stefg> beni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:28] <xizdaqrian> You'll find it there
[02:28] <badkitty> beni: are you installing with a cd /dvd?
[02:28] <grim76> whatspy: openssh-server
[02:28] <viden> Teres__:  do you have ntfs-config installed ?
[02:28] <whatspy> grim76: thx
[02:28] <Teres__> yes
[02:28] <beni> badkitty: cd stefg: before it ran win95(!!!)
[02:28] <Teres__> i just did that
[02:28] <asc__> viden: Okay. How are you starting metacity?
[02:28] <ffm> asc__, metacity is gnome, it is selected from the options menu under sessions.
[02:28] <viden> Teres__:  start it and check the 2 boxes ... then you will have write
[02:28] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: perhaps you have the wrong driver installed or selected in X config
[02:29] <ffm> asc__, at the login dialog, that is.
[02:29] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: wouldn't I get an error output in that situation?
[02:29] <dev_0> perlmonkey, how about my sound
[02:29] <viden> asc__:  well at the moment i have to start it from the terminal to get my window title bars .. but it has a failure of some sort and i cant close that terminal
[02:29] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: I have an nvidia card with TV out and without a hitch, I didnt need to do anything to get TV out
[02:29] <asc__> ffm: Isn't it just the window manager for gnome? Or something.
[02:30] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: I've got the xorg set to nvidia for the driver, I used the driver from Nvidia's website
[02:30] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: maybe, maybe not tho.
[02:30] <asc__> viden: Is the terminal in X?
[02:30] <badkitty> beni: ok so you burned the server CD and your trying to install it via the CD and it freezes/crashes after you select your keyboard?
[02:30] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: same as me
[02:30] <viden> asc__:  yes
[02:30] <ffm> !metacity | asc__
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: I used the driver in Ubuntu tho
[02:30] <viden> Teres__:   so taht will be sudo ntfs-config
[02:30] <ffm> asc__, yes, it is
[02:30] <badkitty> Belboz99: Whats the problem?
[02:30] <Belboz99> badkitty: black screen when GUI is loaded
[02:30] <beni> badkitty: it doesnt freeze its kinda infinite loop. the installer has too few memory, so it shuts down something and then tries to restart exactly the same program again, and exits it again...
[02:31] <perlmonkey> and error msg about TV out
[02:31] <viden> asc__:  i have to leave the terminal window open because if i close it metacity dies with it
[02:31] <Belboz99> badkitty: it's running alright, but with no display output
[02:31] <yoka1> i need to format with vfat a partition with block size of 4096, i get a segmentation fault error. suggestions?
[02:31] <Teres__> thnx
[02:31] <beni> the whole process is visible in the syslog (alt+f4 or f5 afaik)
[02:31] <Teres__> thats gr8
[02:31] <viden> Teres__:  np
[02:31] <badkitty> beni..hmmmm...
[02:31] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: maybe the resolution is set too high? just a thought
[02:31] <mdmkolbe3> xizdaqrian: yes, that is one of the links that Pici gave me, and I'll use it.  But I didn't see that linked anywere from the main web page.  Was there a link from the main web page that I missed?  (If there isn't there ought to be.  Otherwise the only way to find it is to ask here ;-))
[02:31] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: 640x480 too high?
[02:32] <Belboz99> I've also tried the next two up from there
[02:32] <perlmonkey> should be ok
[02:32] <perlmonkey> unless your screen is like real tiny
[02:32] <asc__> viden: okay. This probably isn't what you want to do.  The make a file ~/.xsession containing the lines '#/bin/bash' and 'metacity'. At that point, it will boot to a terminal, you can log in, and running 'startx' should start metacity.
[02:32] <Belboz99> nah, it's like a 27" or so TV
[02:32] <asc__> viden: Another possibility is that I'm tripping hard.
[02:32] <perlmonkey> ok
[02:32] <asc__> The == Then
[02:32] <viden> asc__:  lmmfao
[02:32] <badkitty> Beni...wait... you want to run ubuntu server... there shouldn't be a gui
[02:32] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: do you have AV channel selected on TV?
[02:32] <stefg> beni: have you tried an expert install. you'll like to get rid of cups, acpi, and other useless stuff for that machine, which eats up memory. And i'd use 6.06 LTS server anyway, if all yu want is a stupid samba server
[02:33] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: the thing is the command line and everything else but the GUI display as normal
[02:33] <viden> asc__:  can i just go edit the xsession file to fix this ?
[02:33] <beni> badkitty: ubuntu server 7.04 downloaded yesterday. there is no real gui, just in the beginning ubuntu logo and small menu
[02:33] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: I had the same problem sometimes with blank black screen on TV, restarting X solved it tho
[02:33] <perlmonkey> strange
[02:34] <badkitty> what problem is belboz having?
[02:34] <perlmonkey> so its an X problem for sure eh
[02:34] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: I've restarted X about 20 times now
[02:34] <beni> stefg: isnt 7.04 better than 6.06? i always thought that way :-)
[02:34] <asc__> viden: Well, the xsession file is useless if GDm is running. But that's basicly what I'm suggesting.
[02:34] <perlmonkey> badkitty: he's got no X output to his TV screen on his TV-out nvidia card, but shell displays ok
[02:34] <Belboz99> badkitty: blank screen when GUI is loaded on Standard-Def TV
[02:34] <asc__> viden: Unless there's more xsession files somewhere that I don't know about. Which there probably are.
[02:34] <badkitty> beni: 6.06 had long term support, I'd stick to that one
[02:34] <viden> asc__:  could i just go to term2 and kill gdm and then edit the file ?
[02:35] <viden> asc__:  currently i dont have a file on my system called .xsession
[02:35] <cr3> do u kno xero brothers?
[02:35] <viden> at least that i can find
[02:35] <stefg> beni: 'better' is a relative term. and most of the improvements tend to consume ram, and aren't noticable on a machine without a GUI
[02:35] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: I would suspect it might be the driver you know, can you try the Ubuntu driver perhaps?
[02:35] <Belboz99> tried that too
[02:35] <reen> iiii
[02:35] <perlmonkey> ok
[02:35] <asc> viden: Yeah, that would work. If you're just doing it once, you can probably just 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' and 'startx metacity'
[02:35] <badkitty> belboz: hmm never connected a tv with ubuntu before....
[02:36] <viden> asc: cool
[02:36] <Spaceman3750_> Anyone else have any suggestions on how to get sound from flash working in FireFox?
[02:36] <badkitty> belboz: this is after you installed the nvidia driver?
[02:36] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: I'm going to check my xorg.conf config to see if theres anything
[02:36] <cr3> do u kno xero brothers?
[02:36] <Belboz99> badkitty: it's an HTPC with MythTV
[02:37] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: there's nothing, all seems to be handled by the driver, and the settings for picture quality on TV are handled by nvidia-settings
[02:37] <stefg> Spaceman3750_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-f036b17c3150dd72f58d952a0e13094568c9f92e
[02:37] <badkitty> Belboz: Ahh nice.. did you try attaching a monitor instead of the TV to make sure it is an out-put problem rather than an X problem?
[02:37] <asc> Spaceman3750_:The last thing you might try that I know of is getting rid of ~/.mplayer/plugins/lib-whatever-so and installing gnash (which is apparently the open-source version of flash)
[02:38] <Belboz99> badkitty: I suppose I could try that, I just hate lugging CRT's around the house :-P
[02:38] <y66> hello at all
[02:38] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: cool dude! you're running mythtv? I have just finishing setting up my dedicated master backend, I just installed the nvidia card yesterday, had some probs with the drivers and it took me 2 hours
[02:39] <Paul^> help ! help ! I have an emergency! I'm installing ubuntu, and it's asking for a hostname now! and I can't think of an original hostname! help :(
[02:39] <Paul^> =p
[02:39] <badkitty> belboz: haha true, but atleast you would be likely to know if it is an X thing or a difference between the x output and the tv
[02:39] <Paul^> it's a server, dns/gateway/proxy/dhcp, btw
[02:39] <stefg> Belboz99: so try to 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and use *only* 640x480 at 50 Hz as reso. if that works, you're having a sync issue
[02:40] <asc> Paul^: Mintaka
[02:40] <Frogzoo> Paul^: abandon all hope - you're doomed
[02:40] <perlmonkey> Belboz99: I got the geoforce fx5200 card (XFX make) I'm not that impressed by it I must say, would be interested to hear how you get on the card you bought later
[02:40] <asc> Actually, I like Frogzoo's answer better
[02:40] <Paul^> yeah, but can hostnames contain spaces? it's a tad long for a hostname
[02:41] <y66> I have a problem with Ubuntu server Sparc version....
[02:41] <asc> You can probably use hyphens as spaces. I do that for file names.
[02:41] <perlmonkey> hostnames should not contain spaces
[02:41] <y66> who can contact me to help me?
[02:41] <Paul^> I'll go for asc's one then )
[02:41] <Paul^> =)
[02:41] <perlmonkey> we have a sun user in our midst guys
[02:41] <y66> it's better to talk in private
[02:42] <asc> I'll heat the tar. Pluck a chicken, perlmonkey!
[02:42] <Solaris444> speaking of server versions...
[02:42] <perlmonkey> haha asc
[02:42] <stefg> !pm | y66
[02:42] <ubotu> y66: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[02:42] <Tama00> h
[02:42] <Solaris444> hey guys, the server version...
[02:42] <y66> yes solaris444
[02:42] <Solaris444> what configuration tools are included?
[02:43] <Tama00> i cant get pxe working! my computer gets the dhcp settings then tries to get the tfpt file. its looking for the correct file just the server wont send it!
[02:43] <Tama00> so the laptop keeps getting tftp time out
[02:43] <asc> Solaris444: nano and a lot of .confs I think
[02:43] <Frogzoo> Tama00: try tftp localhost & check your tftpd is serving
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> Solaris444: just the usual debian set. Apt, ifconfig and a /etc full of configuration files.
[02:43] <Solaris444> what is nano?
[02:43] <Solaris444> oh.
[02:43] <Tama00> Frogzoo, okay hold on
[02:43] <Solaris444> damn
[02:44] <mdmkolbe3> Solaris444: nano is a text editor
[02:44] <Solaris444> I was wondering if there is a yast-type interface for ubuntu because I'm getting annoyed at SuSE
[02:44] <y66> solaris444: can you help me with sparc version?
[02:44] <Frogzoo> Solaris444: APT (advance package tool) - interfaces are apt-get & dpkg
[02:44] <Tama00> Frogzoo, yeah it seams to be working
[02:44] <Solaris444> I'm afraid I know nothing about Sparc y66
[02:44] <Paul^> synaptic?
[02:44] <badkitty> Belboz: Myth TV eh, whats the best way to set up your media... NAS?
[02:45] <y66> oh ok thanks solaris444
[02:45] <Solaris444> Frogzoo: yeah I know about the package management tools.  thanks anyway
[02:45] <Tama00> Frogzoo, and i can fetch the file its after
[02:45] <perlmonkey> badkitty: NFS
[02:45] <Frogzoo> Tama00: well wireshark would show you what's happening on the wire
[02:45] <netyire> hello all, been having some problems with mounting a usb device, anyone willing to help?
[02:45] <perlmonkey> badkitty: soft-raid + nfs, never look back
[02:45] <Spaceman3750_> asc, I was gonna try to reinstall FireFox, but it won't let me
[02:45] <jatt> yast is bad
[02:46] <badkitty> !nfs
[02:46] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:46] <y66> who can help me to install Ubuntu server sparc version????
[02:46] <Tama00> Frogzoo, how can i work out the problem using wireshark?
[02:46] <asc> Spaceman3750_: The problem probably isn't either firefox or flash. But at that point, I don't know what it could be.
[02:46] <perlmonkey> badkitty: I'm using XFS for filesystem, very stable and fast
[02:46] <Frogzoo> Tama00: filter on 'tftp' & it will show the conversation
[02:46] <netyire> @Chuck
[02:46] <Tama00> Frogzoo, i was using tcpdump -n to show the conversation beforea
[02:46] <perlmonkey> XFS over NFS
[02:46] <Tama00> and it seams my pc is not sending it to the client
[02:47] <Tama00> i think..
[02:47] <perlmonkey> badkitty: are you thinking of running mythtv too dude?
[02:47] <badkitty> perlmonkey: So being mythTV and all I want LOTS of storage with redundancy.. yes I am going to build a pc for mythtv soon
[02:47] <perlmonkey> wow
[02:47] <Frogzoo> Tama00: wireshark will show filenames & stuff, it's a better chance at finding it
[02:47] <ladal> hellow
[02:48] <vikku> Hi all
[02:48] <perlmonkey> badkitty: lots of storage ya, that thing EATS up HDD space like nothing, 2GB per hour
[02:48] <Tama00> Frogzoo, is there any common reasons why it wont send?
[02:48] <netyire> @chuck
[02:48] <Tama00> Frogzoo, ill have to disconnect of the net to try it
[02:48] <netyire> anyone can help with mounting a usb device?
[02:48] <Tama00> Frogzoo, cause my router has a dhcp server and it conflicts with that if im on the net and trying to install
[02:48] <Frogzoo> netyire: plug it in :)
[02:48] <netyire> :D, yup
[02:48] <jabba_> hello
[02:48] <perlmonkey> badkitty: have you got a card or decided on one for your frontend TV out?
[02:48] <badkitty> perlmonkey: but from what I have heard you can have multiple servers and clients for mythtv to push from? so is it best to have a seperate storage with raid or have it attached to the pc
[02:48] <netyire> works the first time, but on the second time it doesn't mount
[02:49] <viden> acs:  that didnt work .. i cant edit those xsession or xclient files because they dont seem to exist anywhere on my machine.   Do you know where gnome stores its startup script for each user ?
[02:49] <jabba_> is it possible to "dist-upgrade" from lenny/sid debian to ubuntu?
[02:49] <Frogzoo> Tama00: I'm just saying
[02:49] <netyire> dmesg outputs some stuff, let me post a link
[02:49] <badkitty> perlmonkey: Haven't decided on a card yet... i hear there are a few good ones specifically for linux
[02:49] <stefg> jabba_: no
[02:49] <Tama00> Frogzoo, yeah its cool i just wanna try a few things before i go disconnecting my net again
[02:50] <perlmonkey> badkitty: indeed. I have my mythtv spread out on my LAN across 4 machines, (2 backends, one slave and one master, 3 frontends, one on wifi laptop and one under TV with TV-out card, and my storage and mysql db are on a dedicated server
[02:50] <Tama00> Frogzoo, have a bit of a line up of problems to solve so i dont have to keep reconnecting and disconnecting..
[02:50] <jabba_> stefg, so best way is backing up the home-dir and reinstall the root?
[02:50] <viden> Anyone know where x stores its user startup scripts ?
[02:50] <stefg> jabba_: yes
[02:50] <badkitty> perlmonkey: I'll have to get in touch with you when I set mine up then
[02:50] <perlmonkey> cool
[02:50] <jabba_> ok... then ubuntu has to wait... :(
[02:50] <badkitty> perlmonkey: Pm me your email?
[02:50] <Frogzoo> Tama00: use a fixed IP so you can disable the router's dhcp then
[02:51] <perlmonkey> i am always hear so you can always find me
[02:51] <perlmonkey> always same nick
[02:51] <Tama00> Frogzoo, yeah i not actually allowed to touch the router its the next door neighbours lol
[02:51] <perlmonkey> if you register for Freenode you can leave memo msgs
[02:51] <KuHlii> hey by default does ubuntu have an etc/rc.d directory?
[02:51] <Frogzoo> perlmonkey: have you compared the RH clustered file system & XFS ?
[02:51] <Tama00> yeah im so poor i leech the internet of my next door neighbour haha
[02:52] <badkitty> ok.. im out for the night, later
[02:52] <perlmonkey> Frogzoo: I don't know nothing about RH, my back ground is really only Debian before Ubuntu
[02:52] <perlmonkey> I will tell you this tho guys, Ubuntu is the no1 best distro for setting up mythtv
[02:53] <perlmonkey> its so much easier
[02:53] <minimec> Hi folks. I have a Motorola mobile phone that I can plug to the computer via USB. Shouldn't a device node like /dev/ttyACM0 be created when I plug in th USB Device?
[02:53] <perlmonkey> bah still cant access kmail
[02:54] <perlmonkey> minimec: it should ya
[02:54] <perlmonkey> but only if the hardware is recognised
[02:55] <perlmonkey> else your sys will just go "wtf is that...*shrug*" and ignore it
[02:55] <minimec> perlmonkey: Fact is, that I have no /dev/ttyACM0 device in my /dev. I can plug the phone, dmesg shows me, that it is recognised properly...
[02:55] <perlmonkey> cool
[02:55] <m1r> minimec, try: moto4lin
[02:55] <perlmonkey> are you sure that's what the device is called tho?
[02:56] <Spik1> I have a problem. I'm Tribooting on an intel macbook with rEFIt. Just installed 7.0.4. When i choose the mac partition it boots mac just fine. However, when I choose the windows or the ubunty partition, they both boot grep. Furthermore my up and down arrows dont work during the initial stages of the boot, so i cant even select windows when presented with choices. (since i cant move, it goes with the first hilighted choice, Ubuntu
[02:56] <perlmonkey> I've noticed in past some weird device names
[02:56] <saint-takeshi> hey, anyone know how to make wine use a better DirectX?
[02:56] <minimec> m1r: That's what I am trying ;) I want to connect my A780 with moto4lin.
[02:57] <perlmonkey> damnit
[02:57] <perlmonkey> I gotta get my ass in gear and do some work
[02:57] <perlmonkey> back laters guys, will have to manage without me for rest of the day
[02:57] <minimec> m1r: Could there be a problem with the mass storage mode I have in the Motorola A780?
[02:57] <Belboz99> perlmonkey: I got it running!
[02:57] <Belboz99> damn
[03:00] <dondong> anyone here play american army(AA)?
[03:01] <ilu> what that?
[03:01] <dondong> a 3d game
[03:01] <ilu> games are boring
[03:01] <ilu> btw does it work to play pc games on linux?
[03:01] <stefg> !games
[03:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:01] <dondong> iv download one pack,but dont  know how to install
[03:02] <stefg> !software
[03:02] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[03:02] <ilu> uh i dont like games anyway so i wont go there
[03:02] <dondong> 'coz there is no .run files
[03:03] <SlimeyPete> dondong: what files are there?
[03:03] <dondong> some folders
[03:03] <dahmind> Hi
[03:03] <dondong> .ini
[03:03] <stefg> !cedega | saint-takeshi
[03:03] <ubotu> saint-takeshi: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:03] <SlimeyPete> erm, .ini is a text file. Not a game.
[03:03] <SlimeyPete> you sure you downloaded the right thing?
[03:03] <dahmind> I've installed ubuntu on an HP machine and after a reboot I got error 17 with grub. Anyone any idea's?
[03:04] <minimec> m1r: I had to switch from Mass Storage Mode to Modem Mode. I have my /dev/ttyACM0 now ;)
[03:04] <stefg> dahmind: have you installed to the internal disk?
[03:04] <dahmind> stefg: yes
[03:04] <stefg> dahmind: running from Live CD now on that very machine?
[03:04] <dahmind> stefg: dual boot with windows XP pro sp2
[03:05] <dahmind> no, i'm at work
[03:05] <dahmind> stefg: what's error 17?
[03:05] <stefg> dahmind: the problem is that grub doesn't find its config file ( /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[03:06] <Spaceman3750_> Why can't I uninstall FireFox?
[03:06] <dondong> iv install an old version of this game which was easy to install coz it has a .run file,but this one doesnt
[03:06] <stefg> dahmind: so if you run from Live CD you should be able to fix that... sometimes the BIOS juggles around drive numbers, so grub gets confused
[03:06] <Spaceman3750_> It tells me something else is relying on it
[03:06] <Spaceman3750_> But what?
[03:06] <dahmind> stefg: Ok. live-cd and then?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Spaceman3750_: because of what depends on it.
[03:07] <z999> hi
[03:07] <ilu> hey mate
[03:08] <stefg> dahmind: no use in expalining now, if you aren't at the machine.. it's a quick walkthrouh, but you won't remember. So come back from a Live CD session on that machine
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Spaceman3750_: yelp and alot of other gnome apps will be removed as well and most of them are needed. this will change in gutsy (we are working on it alteast)
[03:08] <dahmind> stefg: thnx. I just noticed a post on gentoo forums. I must select the drive as first boot not my cd-rom.
[03:08] <dahmind> stefg: thnx
[03:08] <mattycoze1> hay ppl, can someone help me get linblock to work?
[03:09] <z999> I have a pretty old guide (I used it because it was in hebrew) and it shows a place called the repositories in the synaptic package manager... where do I find it in version 7.04
[03:09] <gnomefreak> z999: i think its in the menu somewhere
[03:09] <z999> ....
[03:09] <stefg> !repos | z999
[03:09] <ubotu> z999: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:10] <netyire> !chuck
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <netyire> @chuck
[03:10] <jatt> lidell
[03:10] <z999> thx
[03:12] <mattycoze1> does anyone know how to use linblock?
[03:13] <Frogzoo> mattycoze1: what is that?
[03:13] <mattycoze1> supposed to be an automatic script for downloading IP tables to be blocked
[03:13] <mattycoze1> ... http://dessent.net/linblock/
[03:15] <LucianIndy> mattycoze1, its a script so you have to download it and chmod it to 755
[03:15] <LucianIndy> then you just run it
[03:15] <Frogzoo> mattycoze1: sounds interesting
[03:16] <Frogzoo> not that I run any p2p
[03:16] <mattycoze1> LucianIndy when i download it i can't see the script file anywhere, how come?
[03:17] <LucianIndy> did you download it to your desktop or /home/username_here/
[03:17] <mattycoze1> desktop
[03:17] <mattycoze1> ... that's the default mozilla download directory
[03:18] <Narada> how do you put ftp in passive mode
[03:18] <ikonia> pas
[03:18] <LucianIndy> open a terminal and type navigate to your desktop then type ls -la
[03:19] <brokenthorn> Narada: You mean your ftp client?
[03:19] <leperkhanz> Anyone wanna help me help Feisty find my new SATA drive?
[03:19] <LucianIndy> mattycoze1, if it has a ~ at the end of it just use this command 'mv filename~ filename' without the ' '
[03:19] <leperkhanz> The bios sees it, but I don't know how to make Ubuntu see it.
[03:20] <stefg> leperkhanz: type sudo fdsik -l in a terminal. is it listed there?
[03:20] <stefg> sudo fdisk -l that is
[03:20] <afief> Anybody here who knows a good Streetfighter/Tekken/Mortal Kombat style game with online multiplayer?
[03:21] <LucianIndy> !anyone | afief
[03:21] <ubotu> afief: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:21] <mattycoze1> LucianIndy, that's Odd the file isn't anywhere despite the fact that i downloaded it
[03:21] <stefg> !games | afief
[03:21] <ubotu> afief: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:21] <PainAuple> Hello
[03:21] <LucianIndy> mattycoze1, you couldn't see it in the terminal?
[03:21] <Frogzoo> !games
[03:21] <leperkhanz> Dunno, there's a lot listed there.
[03:21] <mattycoze1> LucianIndy nope
[03:21] <jatt> xevil
[03:22] <jatt> not sure is multiplayer though
[03:22] <leperkhanz> I'm a little lost.
[03:22] <leperkhanz> :(
[03:22] <LucianIndy> i just downloaded it and i see it on my desktop
[03:22] <PainAuple> Quick question: Can Ubuntu be installed on a Mac relatively easily?
[03:22] <Frogzoo> !aspergers
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aspergers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <wedontneed> hi iam searching an app. like frontpage for ubuntu does anyone know that?
[03:22] <ikonia> PainAuple: intel or power pc ?
[03:22] <mattycoze1> LucianIndy is there a command i could just use to search the drive for the file?
[03:22] <mattycoze1> like grep?
[03:22] <stefg> !paste | leperkhanz, so paste the output here->
[03:22] <ikonia> mattycoze1 find
[03:22] <leperkhanz> I already have 5 drives in there and multiple partitions....
[03:23] <LucianIndy> sudo locate linblock.pl
[03:23] <leperkhanz> !paste
[03:23] <Frogzoo> mattycoze1: locate is way faster
[03:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <ikonia> LucianIndy: the desktop is in ~/Desktop
[03:23] <Frogzoo> mattycoze1: oh my bad - yeah, just ls from a terminal will find it
[03:23] <novell123> i have a question... maybe little stupid... i want to know what ubuntu has more than debian? or what debian has more ubuntu?... scuse me for the language but i'm not english
[03:23] <Narada> brokenthorn: what's a good graphical ftp client
[03:23] <leperkhanz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29640/
[03:23] <ikonia> novell123: they are maintained by different people
[03:24] <ikonia> novell123: so they are based on the same iniital programs just packaged together in different ways
[03:24] <stefg> leperkhanz: so if /you/ lost track of what's going on in your box, how could you expect anyone else on the other end of an IRC get it back for you ? :-)
[03:24] <tanlaan> how do I do a distro upgrade from CL?
[03:24] <brokenthorn> Narada: Everyone thinks it's gftp AFAIK
[03:24] <wedontneed> hi iam searching an app. like frontpage for ubuntu does anyone know that?
[03:24] <ikonia> tanlaan: man apt-get
[03:24] <novell123> ikonia, but why do you prefer ubuntu than debian?
[03:24] <ikonia> novell123: doesn't matter - its just my opinion
[03:24] <leperkhanz> well, I was hoping there was a "search for new hard drive" button some where.
[03:24] <leperkhanz> :)
[03:25] <ikonia> leperkhanz: why do you need to search for a new harddisk ?
[03:25] <brokenthorn> Narada: But IMHO there's no better ftp client than a console client, like there is no better gui irc client like irssi or weechat, etc
[03:25] <ikonia> leperkhanz: do you not know if you've put one in or not ?
[03:25] <leperkhanz> I just put in a new SATA drive, and it's not showing up anywhere.
[03:25] <tanlaan> well now, I have a problem
[03:25] <ikonia> leperkhanz: have you put a file system on it ?
[03:25] <leperkhanz> Umm...
[03:25] <leperkhanz> no.
[03:25] <xyz123> How do i set up mutt for sending email outside the localhost realm?
[03:25] <ikonia> leperkhanz: there you go then
[03:25] <leperkhanz> It doesn't show up anywhere in Ubuntu.
[03:25] <ikonia> xyz123: mutt isn't an smtp relay
[03:25] <ikonia> leperkhanz: because you've not put a file system on it
[03:26] <tanlaan> I am running 6.06 LTS, but I want to upgrade to 7.04, when I do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it finds no packages to install
[03:26] <leperkhanz> Is there a wizard somewhere to do that?
[03:26] <ikonia> tanlaan: because you don't upgrade from 6.0.6 to 7.04
[03:26] <stefg> leperkhanz: it'
[03:26] <ikonia> 7.04 is a non LTS distro
[03:26] <stefg> leperkhanz: it's /dev/sdb
[03:26] <leperkhanz> I had that feeling.
[03:26] <PainAuple> ikonia: A friend of mine wants to try putting a Linux partition on one of her machines. She has both and intel and a power pc
[03:26] <leperkhanz> :)
[03:26] <xyz123> ikonia, ok how do i set up exim4/mutt for sending mail outside the localhost realm then?
[03:26] <stefg> leperkhanz: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[03:26] <tanlaan> ikonia: So because I burned and installed 6.06 to my drive I'm fucked over for upgrading to 7.04?
[03:27] <leperkhanz> will that make it a big fat32?
[03:27] <ikonia> xyz123 you need to tell xime as an SMTP relay
[03:27] <leperkhanz> what will that do?
[03:27] <ikonia> tanlaan: there is no reason to use that language
[03:27] <ikonia> !language > tanlaan
[03:27] <stefg> leperkhanz: start the partitioner for the new drive
[03:27] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Try gparted, it's in a GUI
[03:27] <leperkhanz> sweet.
[03:27] <ikonia> PainAuple its quite straight forward, although the PPC distro is now community maintained
[03:27] <xyz123> ikonia, would you care to explain it further, i would realy appriciate it
[03:27] <leperkhanz> I like the sound of a GUI.
[03:27] <Slart> tanlaan: problems updating?
[03:27] <tanlaan> ikonia: I apologize  for the language
[03:27] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Hehe :)
[03:28] <tanlaan> slart: apparently?
[03:28] <Slart> tanlaan: can't upgrade using the update-manager?
[03:28] <leperkhanz> Is gparted in the system menu somewhere?
[03:28] <ikonia> xyz123 you need to join an exim help channel or read the exim guide on https://help.ubuntu.com - you basiclly need to configure exim to act as an internet SMTP server then tell mutt to use that
[03:28] <tanlaan> slart: nvm
[03:28] <tanlaan> slart: apparently either I or the system was being ignorant
[03:29] <tanlaan> slart: now that I retyped the same thing for the third time, it will allow me to upgrade
[03:29] <CaptainM> leperkhanz, nope, it is in the repo's though
[03:29] <tanlaan> ikonia: thank you for your time, I hope you have a great day =]
[03:29] <ikonia> tanlaan: welcome
[03:29] <PainAuple> ikonia: Ok, thanks.
[03:29] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Yes
[03:29] <Slart> tanlaan: hehe.. that's what I like about computers.. reliable and predictable =)
[03:29] <tanlaan> slart: haha, well have a nice day =]
[03:29] <ziBam> My keyboard doesnt work duing the first and second stages of grub. Any idea how to fix (Macbook intel)
[03:30] <ikonia> grub doesn't work on intel mac
[03:30] <ziBam> so what should i do?
[03:30] <stefg> !info elilo
[03:30] <ubotu> elilo: Bootloader for systems using EFI-based firmware. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 120 kB, installed size 412 kB (Only available for i386 ia64)
[03:30] <ikonia> ziBam: use a compatible boot loader
[03:30] <ilu> skype seems to work pretty fine for me
[03:30] <stefg> ziBam: see ubotus message for elilo
[03:31] <xyz123> ikonia, thanks
[03:31] <ziBam> ikonia: Well, im using rEFIt which is a bootloader that people have used for that, but grub boots when i choose windows too, how do i disable or switch grub?
[03:32] <ikonia> ziBam: you shouldn't have installed grub
[03:32] <viden> where does gnome keep its startup script ie for normal and failsafe launch ?
[03:32] <mattycoze1> kk i give up with that idea...
[03:32] <ikonia> ziBam: your not using erfit - or grub wouldn't be booting
[03:33] <leperkhanz> wow gparted is sweet.
[03:33] <ikonia> we know
[03:33] <leperkhanz> much better than any windows tool I've seen.
[03:34] <FuM-Lapto> Can someone help me out real quick?
[03:34] <leperkhanz> Just like that I got a 300gb Fat32 drive kickin' it gangster style.
[03:34] <ziBam> ikonia: So im sorry to be bothersome, and not to knowledgable, but then how do i use erfit?
[03:34] <mattycoze1> how about with this - i'm having problems installing moblock; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29642/
[03:34] <leperkhanz> thanks guys!
[03:34] <ikonia> ziBam you've been sent a link from stefg detailing options and help urls
[03:34] <leperkhanz> I'm going to be an EVEN MORE vocal Ubuntu fan now.  If that's possible.
[03:35] <ikonia> leperkhanz: probably best you keep quiet as it looks bad if you don't know what your doing and start spouting off stuff
[03:35] <FurryNemesis> FuM, what's up?
[03:35] <Tama00> whats the command to remove packages?
[03:35] <LurkerXXX123> Hi, I want to use Ubuntu server on my laptop, but it's got a Pentium M and so it hangs after install.  Is there an easy workaround?  ( this is the bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/71594 )
[03:35] <ltibor65> Hi guys! Do anyone use beryl? How can I set different wllpapers on the variing sides of the cube?
[03:35] <ikonia> Tama00: apt-get remove
[03:35] <PriceChild> LurkerXXX123, does that bug mention a workaround in the comments?
[03:35] <wzw> Hi, i have a Powerbook G4, i will install ubuntu 7.04, can i have the both two osx and ubuntu or just ubuntu?
[03:35] <Tama00> ikonia, yay
[03:35] <leperkhanz> ikonia: I know enough.  I've spent years working on windows systems, which is hugely inferior I am rapidly coming to realize.
[03:35] <FuM> FurryNemesis, I disabled an Nvidia driver in my Ubuntu. Now I can't even login because a blackscreen popups up then it reverts back to the login scree.
[03:35] <stefg> Ich murkse hier schon den ganzen Tag daran rum, auf einem AthlonXP/nForce2 system mit Nvidia FX5200 und Nvidia-glx 100.14.11 suspend to ram hinzukriegen (Desktop-Maschine) kein howto funzt. Noch jamnd 'ne Idee?
[03:35] <Tama00> do you know if i really need xinetd and inetd?
[03:35] <jatt> !german
[03:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:35] <Tama00> cause i dont think i need them services
[03:36] <LurkerXXX123> PriceChild: only using an alternate CD to boot
[03:36] <Tama00> and would prefer not to have them
[03:36] <ikonia> leperkhanz: thats the sort of nonsense talk that sounds silly
[03:36] <FurryNemesis> FuM, the cli login screen?
[03:36] <LurkerXXX123> that didn't seem to work for some folks
[03:36] <asc> wzw: It's possibly to have both, but I couldn't tell you how to go about doing that.
[03:36] <PriceChild> LurkerXXX123, well have you tried?
[03:36] <FuM> FurryNemesis, DI?
[03:36] <LurkerXXX123> yes, it didnt' work for me
[03:36] <mattycoze1> would anyone help me install Moblock??? please look at my paste  - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29642/
[03:36] <viden> where does gnome keep its startup script ie for normal and failsafe launch ?
[03:36] <ikonia> mattycoze1: what ubuntu version are you using
[03:37] <mattycoze1> ikonia fiesty 7.04
[03:37] <FurryNemesis> FuM, can you login and get to a command prompt on that screen?
[03:37] <stefg> jatt: thanks, missed right channel
[03:37] <leperkhanz> ikonia: I'm going to have to disagree with you.  Ubuntu is vastly superior to Windows in a myriad of ways.  Most of them immediately obvious to me at least.
[03:37] <ikonia> leperkhanz could you name three please
[03:37] <wzw> asc: ok, do ubuntu detect all mac hardware (wifi, bluetooth, mouse...)
[03:37] <leperkhanz> Anyway, thanks again.
[03:37] <wzw> asc
[03:37] <FuM> FurryNemesis, No I cannot. I can't get into my Desktop at all.
[03:37] <wzw> asc: sound too
[03:37] <leperkhanz> Beryl, gparted, reliability.
[03:37] <leperkhanz> that was easy.
[03:37] <ikonia> leperkhanz nope
[03:37] <FurryNemesis> FuM, that's ok, you don't need to get to it to re-enable the driver
[03:37] <ikonia> that was pathetic
[03:38] <ikonia> mattycoze1: what repo is mblock-nfq in
[03:38] <FurryNemesis> FuM, you just need to be logged in at that command line screen
[03:38] <leperkhanz> free, foss, fast?
[03:38] <ikonia> mattycoze1: it looks like the version your getting has dependencies that are newer than fesity
[03:38] <ikonia> leperkhanz again - just random words
[03:38] <leperkhanz> no 3 specific ways that Ubuntu is pummeling Windows into the ground.
[03:38] <FuM> FurryNemesis, The Recovery mode?
[03:38] <onechard> wzw sure does running just peachy on macbook pro 17
[03:39] <ikonia> leperkhanz utter nonsense
[03:39] <leperkhanz> That's a total of six.  I hope that's enough.
[03:39] <mattycoze1> ikonia that sounds about right, the repository is an online one
[03:39] <ikonia> leperkhanz hence why you should not be advocating linux
[03:39] <ikonia> mattycoze1 spot on
[03:39] <ikonia> mattycoze1 that makes sense
[03:39] <ikonia> mattycoze1 is the repo even an ubuntu one ?
[03:39] <leperkhanz> whatever.  thanks again, I'm outta here, and putting Ubuntu on every machine I can find.
[03:39] <ikonia> mattycoze1 sorry even aimed at ubuntu users
[03:39] <leperkhanz> :P
[03:39] <ikonia> leperkhanz silly silly, but enjoy
[03:39] <FurryNemesis> yep, after it dumps you to that screen, login at the command prompt
[03:39] <capiira> hmmm anyone know how to list dirs and sub dirs and sub files and save to txt from the shell ?
[03:39] <mattycoze1> nah - i think Gentoo
[03:40] <mattycoze1> which sucks!
[03:40] <ikonia> capiira ls -lR >file.txt
[03:40] <ikonia> mattycoze1 gentoo releases are never going to work on ubuntu
[03:40] <capiira> thank you
[03:40] <ikonia> mattycoze1 use repos that point at ubuntu repo's
[03:40] <asc> wzw: I've never tried installing it on one. To the best of my knowledge, PPC isn't as well supported as intel-32, if it's a PPC. Most things should work fine. I'm less sure about bluetooth - wireless has traditionally been a tricky issue.
[03:41] <ikonia> mattycoze1 distributions are not interchangable
[03:41] <mattycoze1> ikonia - there is no such thing :(, the reason why i've been trying to get it to work is because i need an p2p IP blocker like peerguardian
[03:41] <FuM> FurryNemesis, I'm at the Terminal Emulator.
[03:41] <ikonia> mattycoze1: contact the package maintainer and ask him to package it for ubuntu
[03:41] <mattycoze1> and i've been told that peerguardian had been outdated by this
[03:41] <ikonia> mattycoze1: no problem, just contact the maintainer
[03:41] <xoqa> how do you define which login manager to use? is there one specific file to edit?
[03:41] <mattycoze1> ikonia - hay that sounds like a good idea!
[03:41] <FurryNemesis> FuM, have you got something like FuM@MyComputer $    ?
[03:42] <mattycoze1> lol what's the likelihood they'll do it though?
[03:42] <FurryNemesis> and then a prompt?
[03:42] <ikonia> mattycoze1: simple ones are always the best - if something isn't meant to work, don't try to make it work. Ask the person to fix it
[03:42] <xoqa> /etc/X11/???
[03:42] <asc> xoqa: It's a startup task. If you install sysv-rc-conf, you can use it to enable/disable kdm/gdm/xdm/whatever.
[03:42] <leperkhanz> Wait, I'm back, how do I mount said drive now?
[03:42] <leperkhanz> :P
[03:42] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Yes. fum@fumdesktop:~$
[03:42] <ikonia> mattycoze1 depends what they are. I port all packages I maintain on request if I can, or I ask a collaberator to do it for me
[03:42] <FurryNemesis> excellent
[03:42] <xoqa> asc: but is there a file to edit?
[03:42] <ikonia> leperkhanz: ubuntu is superior it should just work
[03:42] <ikonia> leperkhanz: remember
[03:42] <FurryNemesis> FuM, did you want that driver back?
[03:43] <xoqa> asc: which one if so?
[03:43] <ikonia> leperkhanz: go indtall it on every pc you can
[03:43] <asc> xoqa: There's at least one way to do it without sysv-rc-conf, but I have no idea how.
[03:43] <leperkhanz> it probably will on reboot. :P
[03:43] <leperkhanz> doing that already. :D
[03:43] <ikonia> leperkhanz weak solution
[03:43] <leperkhanz> yeah, I know.
[03:43] <FuM> FurryNemesis, I just want to be able to use my desktop lol.
[03:43] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: edit /etc/fstab
[03:43] <leperkhanz> that's why I'm back here askin'.
[03:43] <FurryNemesis> ok
[03:43] <mattycoze1> ikonia - i'll do it for the ubuntu community :p
[03:43] <leperkhanz> brokenthorn: thnx.
[03:43] <FurryNemesis> FuM, what video card do you have?
[03:43] <leperkhanz> no GUI way?
[03:43] <ikonia> mattycoze1 are you confident packaging and maintaining it ?
[03:43] <LurkerXXX123> How do I generate a new kernal like the one on the DVD, but without  PAE support?
[03:44] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Hmm
[03:44] <FuM> FurryNemesis, 7900gtx
[03:44] <FuM> Nvidia
[03:44] <FurryNemesis> in that case, type  sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[03:44] <mattycoze1> ikonia nah i meant ask them nicely
[03:44] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: I don't know if there is a front end to /etc/fstab...
[03:44] <ikonia> 14:44 < mattycoze1> ikonia nah i meant ask them nicely
[03:44] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: wait
[03:44] <ikonia> oops
[03:44] <leperkhanz> and I'll probably be doing this often.
[03:44] <ikonia> mattycoze1 good call, I'm sure they will be happy to port it if you are a little patient
[03:44] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: the partition manager from the control panel gives you the option to select the mount point
[03:44] <ikonia> brokenthorn there isn't
[03:45] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: That's where you can set it
[03:45] <leperkhanz> sweet.
[03:45] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Invalid Operation "nvidia-glx"
[03:45] <leperkhanz> thnx.
[03:45] <brokenthorn> ikonia: No?
[03:45] <ikonia> no
[03:45] <brokenthorn> ikonia: impossible
[03:45] <ikonia> brokenthorn: fstab is just a file
[03:45] <FurryNemesis> FuM, oopsy
[03:45] <FurryNemesis> my bad
[03:45] <asc> xoqa: It looks as though there's a symlink to gdm in /etc/X11. It's possible that's what it uses to start the login manager and you could just point it to the one you want to use.
[03:45] <brokenthorn> ikonia: I don't use GUI that much but I do remember what the partition manager offered
[03:45] <FuM> No biggie
[03:45] <sa3iid> salut j'ai un problme, comment je fais pour aller sur ubuntu-fr ? merci !
[03:45] <asc> xoqa: Or maybe it does nothing at all.
[03:45] <onechard> http://freeusenetnews.com/ google is your friend
[03:45] <FurryNemesis> FuM, I meant, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:46] <FuM> sa3iid, /join #ubuntu-fr
[03:46] <ikonia> brokenthorn the bottom line is a new disk should be detected by udev trigger a gnome-hal event and it get mounted if it has a usable file system on it
[03:46] <asc> xoqa: Uh, and I just looked in the file /etc/X11/default/display/manager and it appears to be exactly what you're looking for.
[03:46] <sa3iid> dmerci fum !
[03:46] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Just edit the mount point on the new partition(s) you created on the new hard drive, enter something like '/media/sdb1' , "/media/sdb2' etc
[03:46] <asc> xoqa: */etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:46] <FuM> =]
[03:46] <ikonia> leperkhanz have you put a file system on it ?
[03:46] <brokenthorn> ikonia: Which it doesn't ^^
[03:46] <FuM> je parle un poquite
[03:47] <ikonia> brokenthorn I'll bet there is no file system on it
[03:47] <brokenthorn> ikonia: He did, didn't we tell him to do it before he came back? :)
[03:47] <FuM> FurryNemesis, It installed.
[03:47] <brokenthorn> ikonia:  there is! :)
[03:47] <ikonia> brokenthorn ho ho ho and you think he listened
[03:47] <FurryNemesis> great
[03:47] <brokenthorn> ikonia: well he was away for a while ;)
[03:47] <ikonia> brokenthorn ha ha
[03:47] <FuM> Cntrl alt backspace wooot
[03:47] <leperkhanz> Yeah, it's a big fat32 now.
[03:47] <brokenthorn> ikonia: it's not my problem if he didn't listen :)
[03:47] <ikonia> leperkhanz: what command did you use to put fat32 on it ?
[03:47] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Great :)
[03:47] <FurryNemesis> now reboot by typing sudo reboot
[03:47] <leperkhanz> I don't see the app to mount it in the system menu though.
[03:47] <FurryNemesis> and see what happens
[03:47] <leperkhanz> i used gparted.
[03:48] <ikonia> does gparted put file systems on (I never use it
[03:48] <leperkhanz> but there was no "mount" icon in gparted.  Mores the pitty.
[03:48] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: not mount it now, just set where to be mounted on next reboot :)
[03:48] <FurryNemesis> might need to enable it after wards, not sure as I don't use that driver
[03:48] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: all you need to edit is the "mount point"
[03:48] <leperkhanz> well, won't it mount automatically if I reboot?
[03:48] <floriakir> does anyone know when adobe's going to release AIR (kind of a flash version for desktop applications) for linux?
[03:48] <ikonia> leperkhanz: sudo mkdir /mnt/test; sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/test
[03:49] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: if you have it set to a correct mount point and fstype, then yes
[03:49] <leperkhanz> I was just trying to find a way to mount without reboot.
[03:49] <brokenthorn> ikonia: don't just assume it's hdb1 :P
[03:49] <brokenthorn> ikonia: you're the one not helping :)
[03:49] <ikonia> brokenthorn: it was hdb - he's put one big partition on - its hdb1
[03:49] <brokenthorn> ikonia: didn't you hear it is a SATA drive? :D
[03:49] <ikonia> brokenthorn: then why did he say earlier it was hdb
[03:49] <brokenthorn> ikonia: It's a sdb1 :))
[03:49] <leperkhanz> yeah, jesus, I'm not going to remember any of those commands either, and I may need to do it again.
[03:49] <ikonia> fair enough - if its sata - its sdb1
[03:50] <ikonia> leperkhanz do those commands as a one off to test it
[03:50] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: let's talk private and I'll help you, ok?
[03:50] <roy> the windows partition is not shown. does anybody know how to solve that?
[03:50] <leperkhanz> yeah it is sdb1
[03:50] <xoqa> asc: i've already edited that file, but upon an X-Windows restart (ctrl-alt-backspace), gdm appeared again.
[03:50] <brokenthorn> :))
[03:50] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: I queryed you, why won't you respond?
[03:50] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Thank you. By any chance would you happen to know how to fix my beryl? It was working fine yesterday then it just stopped working.
[03:50] <leperkhanz> i did respond.
[03:51] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: nope :)
[03:51] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: let's try again :)
[03:51] <gumpish> =/ Anyone know if the xchat package for fiesty is supposed to have SSL support?
[03:51] <leperkhanz> silly pidgin.
[03:51] <FurryNemesis> FuM, what stopped working?>
[03:51] <ikonia> gumpish I'm %90 certain it does
[03:51] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: I sent another message.
[03:51] <leperkhanz> got it.
[03:51] <leperkhanz> you aren't getting mine though.
[03:51] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Don't just /pm me, /query me :)
[03:51] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Desktop Effects. All the windows are messed up now, even though they weren't before.
[03:51] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: no :)
[03:51] <elkbuntu> xchat has had ssl support for like, forever now
[03:52] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: I ain't getting yours
[03:52] <FurryNemesis> whee
[03:52] <leperkhanz> yes I can see that.
[03:52] <z999> the sytnaptic manager lacks of several programs that I'm supposed to instal... where can I find it?
[03:52] <FurryNemesis> messed up how?
[03:52] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: why don't you use xchat? konversation, anything but pidgin :)
[03:52] <gumpish> =/ anyone know of a network that implements SSL  so I can test it?
[03:52] <leperkhanz> meh, this is the first thing it's been broken on.
[03:52] <mrjones> my cd tray always ejects the cds after a few seconds... can you imagine why?
[03:52] <leperkhanz> And it's nice having all my irc, aim, msn, yahoo, icq, myspace, and etc. in one chat.
[03:52] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Pidgin is not my favorite app :)
[03:53] <leperkhanz> it's getting better.
[03:53] <leperkhanz> but it obviously still has some irc flaws.
[03:53] <brokenthorn> and Miranda IM is getting even better :P
[03:53] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Like I cant explain it but the themes are messed up and like they don't show up.
[03:53] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: Do you have a Jabber ID? Yahoo ID?
[03:53] <leperkhanz> yahoo crhylove
[03:54] <z999> I use pidgin on my winbd ows PC too
[03:54] <FuM> FurryNemesis, My cube also stopped working as well.
[03:54] <brokenthorn> leperkhanz: added
[03:54] <z999> the synaptic manager lacks of several programs that I'm supposed to install... where can I find it?
[03:55] <CaptainM> z999, are all the repo's enabled?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> z999: you may need to add repos.. what are you trying to install
[03:55] <FurryNemesis> got the beryl manager up?
[03:56] <FuM> Yes.
[03:56] <z999> I tried but all the guides are for ver. 6.10-6.06 and it's different
[03:57] <CaptainM> z999, in a terminal type: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <z999> and that's it?
[03:58] <CaptainM> z999, nope
[03:58] <CaptainM> z999, and remove the "#" from the beginning of the lines ending in "main" "universe" and "multiverse"
[03:58] <CaptainM> z999, and that's it
[03:58] <z999> ok
[03:59] <z999> thx
[03:59] <A_New_Guy> Hello everyone. I'm new to Ubuntu (just installed it 3 minutes ago) and have a quick question if you have the time. :)
[04:00] <Hirvinen> !anyone | A_New_Guy
[04:00] <ubotu> A_New_Guy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:00] <mattycoze1> ikonia hay i'm back - i was just rechecking to source of the repo packages for MoBlock and apparently they were in fact Debian
[04:00] <CaptainM> z999, than at a terminal type "sudo apt-get update" and  "sudo apt-get upgrade". after that it should find the packages you want to install
[04:00] <begasus470> hiiz
[04:01] <A_New_Guy> I would like to delete some files from my old "C" drive, but when I go into "Places > Computer > C:" I try to delete and it says "Error: This is a read-only disk." Any ideas?
[04:01] <W9ZEB> I am connecting to an HP Laserjet 5 printer through the network, using Ubuntu 7.04.  Regardless of whether I use the Windows share, or print directly to the Jet-Direct port it keeps defaulting all jobs to the A4 paper size, regardless of what the paper setting is under the printer properties.  Help :(
[04:02] <jatt> C?
[04:02] <b0ha> what is the best dvd/cd burner for ubuntu?
[04:02] <CaptainM> A_New_Guy, linux can't make changes to your windows disk, only read stuff
[04:02] <ramseize> just askin how can i set up an adhoc connection?
[04:02] <CaptainM> A_New_Guy, if you want to be able to make changes take a look at ntfs-3g
[04:03] <cheeseboy> hi
[04:03] <cheeseboy> how do i setup printer?
[04:03] <CaptainM> !ntfs-3g | A_New_Guy
[04:03] <ubotu> A_New_Guy: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:03] <Bevdizzle> Hi, i have a connection problem on my newly installed Laptop. Im using Dapper and what happens is i cannot connect to addresses for instance archive.ubuntu.com unless i ping it first, then it connects... the same with connecting to IRC.freenode.net or with limewire does anyone know what would cause this?
[04:03] <A_New_Guy> @CaptainM: Thank you, I will look at that. Also, I will try to completely delete Windows XP. :P
[04:03] <CaptainM> A_New_Guy, that's an admirable goal ;)
[04:04] <cheeseboy> !cups
[04:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:04] <sreeram> Hi, my ubuntu box does not have man pages for the Standard C Library, and for the POSIX API. Which package should I install to get them?
[04:04] <Bevdizzle> this is frustrating for me esp when installing packages as apt cannot connect to the servers but as soon as i ping the address it connects
[04:04] <A_New_Guy> I am very excited about Ubuntu and thank you everyone for your answers. Seems like a very helpful community. Thanks again, see ya!
[04:04] <ramseize> can anyone help me? how can i set up my ubuntu to create a adhoc wireless connection?
[04:04] <ikonia> sreeram I don't think glibc have man pages you have to man a function within the libary to get info
[04:05] <SlimeyPete> sreeram: glibc-doc ?
[04:05] <PriceChild> sreeram,  libc-doc for the c library doc maybe
[04:05] <sreeram> ikonia: `man fread' & `man select' => "No manual page"
[04:05] <sreeram> Ok
[04:06] <tuxix> hi
[04:06] <ikonia> sreeram nah - thats not what I mean
[04:06] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[04:06] <Bevdizzle> any ideas as to what would be causing my problem?
[04:06] <dbft> hey
[04:06] <ramzies> ikonia can you help me?
[04:06] <dbft> is there a way to get a list of wireless networks in range?
[04:06] <ikonia> ramzies: with what ?
[04:06] <nightevil> can any one help me with the command of restarting KDE GUI?
[04:06] <dbft> the network configuration thing doesnt seem to give you a list, you have to type it in
[04:06] <ramzies> about how to create adhoc connection?
[04:06] <cheeseboy> how so i open add printer thing??
[04:06] <ikonia> nightevil crtl+alt+delete
[04:07] <ikonia> ramzies in what way
[04:07] <b0ha> what is the best dvd/cd burner for ubuntu?
[04:07] <cheeseboy> do*
[04:07] <ramzies> ok heres the situation
[04:07] <ikonia> b0ha thats personal opinion - search the repo's try some see which one YOU look
[04:07] <ikonia> like
[04:07] <dbft> gnomebaker b0ha
[04:07] <fevel> nightevil: ctrl alt backspace?
[04:07] <cheeseboy> b08y, k3b
[04:07] <nightevil> thanks
[04:07] <b08y> ?
[04:07] <sreeram> ikonia: What did you mean?
[04:07] <ikonia> sreeram: try "man socket" for an example
[04:07] <dbft> so how do i get a list of wireless networksi n range?
[04:07] <ikonia> sreeram: thats the best way to explain it
[04:07] <b0ha> tnx for help guys
[04:07] <urthmover> where do I configure my file associations in Feisty?  (example  *.pps = OpenOffice)
[04:08] <cheeseboy> can someone help i really need to get this printed now
[04:08] <fevel> dbft: dont know....would like to know the answer too...anyone?
[04:08] <ramzies> im using ubuntu, and my brother is using a windows xp , and he has no internet connection, and he wants to have conection with me via wireless lan, how can i do that ikonia
[04:08] <sreeram> ikonia: `man socket' too says the same thing - "No manual entry for socket"
[04:08] <ikonia> sreeram, oh, you must be missing a lot of man pages. how about basics like "man kill"
[04:08] <sreeram> I just installed glibc-doc and that doesn't seem to have changed anything.
[04:09] <ikonia> ramzies just both set the same essid
[04:09] <sreeram> man kill works
[04:09] <ramzies> im using ubuntu, and my brother is using a windows xp , and he has no internet connection, and he wants to have conection with me via wireless lan, how can i do that ? can you help me out?
[04:09] <W9ZEB> FYI.....  for anyone printing to Letter size paper in ubuntu.....   please edit your /etc/papersize file to reflect it.
[04:09] <ikonia> sreeram I don't think glibc-doc is the man pages
[04:09] <W9ZEB> changing the setting on the printer properties didn't work, without also changing the setting on every print job.
[04:09] <CaptainM> !patience | ramzies
[04:09] <ubotu> ramzies: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:09] <ALASKAMAN> what the command to delete my bind so i can start over
[04:09] <cheeseboy> help?
[04:09] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN delete your bind ?
[04:09] <ramzies> sorry ikonia im not familiar with ubuntu terms you are using ,  im just new in ubuntu can you elaborate it more clearly? if you dont mind
[04:10] <ALASKAMAN> i need to remove bind i mesdsed it up
[04:10] <cheeseboy> ive got school in 10 minutes please  help
[04:10] <ikonia> ramzies essid is nothing to do with ubuntu its your wirless network name. If both PC's have the same wirless network name they should be able to see each other
[04:10] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN bind as in dns service ?
[04:10] <ALASKAMAN> yes
[04:10] <ramzies> hmmm
[04:10] <ikonia> apt-get remove bind
[04:10] <FuM> Does anyone know how to reset my Beryl?
[04:10] <ALASKAMAN> does not work
[04:10] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN what does it say
[04:11] <fevel> ikonia: cant I see wich ones are in range??
[04:11] <ALASKAMAN> tell me its not installed
[04:11] <ikonia> fevel see what ?
[04:11] <ramzies> ikonia , how can i setup it?
[04:11] <FurryNemesis> FuM, did you get to the beryl-manager
[04:11] <fevel> ikonia: wireless networks
[04:11] <ikonia> !wirless >ramzies
[04:11] <cheeseboy> how so i open add printer thing??
[04:11] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Yes
[04:11] <ikonia> fevel how are you looking ?
[04:11] <cheeseboy> help
[04:11] <ALASKAMAN> so when i go to reinall it said it the current one installed
[04:11] <KuHlii> hey if i try and remove gaim through synaptic pm i get a msg saying nautilus-sendto and ubuntu-desktop are to be removed? is this right?
[04:11] <ikonia> host stop asking !
[04:11] <simon__> Hi. I use a windows mobile 6 device and would very much like to synchronize it with thunderbird or another native Linux calendar. Is this possible? I have allready tried several wikis to synchronize my phone with my feisty computer but have failed. Maybe because i am to newbie. Can someone help me?
[04:11] <ikonia> KuHlii yes they are linked
[04:11] <ramzies> !hmmm >ramzies
[04:11] <KuHlii> im trying to install pidgin btw
[04:12] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN what is the package name caled
[04:12] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN is it something like bind-server
[04:12] <fevel> ikonia: Im not, when I try connecting to other wireless networks it asks for the name of the network
[04:12] <FurryNemesis> FuM, go to general options tab, select setting profile and desktop from side menu
[04:12] <fevel> ikonia: I want to see the ones in range
[04:12] <ikonia> fevel you either need to know the name - or the wirless access point be set to broadcast
[04:12] <JayRoe> Hi can someone help me set up an IR remote control Feisty?
[04:12] <CaptainM> KuHlii, you can remove safely remove those
[04:13] <ALASKAMAN> ibind9
[04:13] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Ok
[04:13] <fevel> ikonia: it is set to broadcast, but wich ubuntu package shows the broadcasted networks?
[04:13] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN are you sure its called ibind9 ?
[04:13] <ikonia> fevel are you certain its set to broadcast ?
[04:13] <KuHlii> ok thanks
[04:13] <FurryNemesis> have you got a list of profiles in the right hand window?
[04:13] <ALASKAMAN> oops bind9
[04:13] <PocketIRC> help
[04:13] <ikonia> fevel I believe network-manager shows wirless access lists
[04:13] <ikonia> ALASKAMAN sudo apt-get remove bind9
[04:13] <FuM> Just One
[04:13] <fevel> ikonia: yes, windows machine detects
[04:13] <onechard> !bind9
[04:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bind9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:13] <Bevdizzle> can someone help me with a connection problem please
[04:13] <FuM> "Default"
[04:13] <The_Mastor> !DCC SEND "string" 1 0 1
[04:14] <ikonia> PocketIRC I've tried for a while and never succeded
[04:14] <elkbuntu> !staff
[04:14] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[04:14] <ikonia> The_Mastor what are you doing !
[04:14] <ikonia> !ops
[04:14] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[04:14] <Hobbsee> ikonia: dammit, we know.  didnt you see the staff call?
[04:14] <ikonia> Hobbsee no, I missed it
[04:14] <ikonia> sorry
[04:14] <CaptainM> !anyone | Bevdizzle
[04:14] <ubotu> Bevdizzle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:14] <n4t> hi all
[04:15] <Hobbsee> ikonia: was right above yours statement....
[04:15] <FurryNemesis> bweh?
[04:15] <fevel> ikonia: thanks
[04:15] <ALASKAMAN> it not removing it tho for some reason
[04:15] <ikonia> Hobbsee screens scrolling like mad due to attack
[04:15] <Bevdizzle> I have a problem where i cannot connect ot any update servers or irc servers or limewire etc
[04:15] <Bevdizzle> but as soon as i ping the address say security.ubuntu.com orirc.freenode.net or whatever address im trying to connect to its ableto connect fine as soon as i've pinged it.
[04:15] <fevel> dbft: got that??
[04:15] <elkbuntu> ikonia, i did the staff call after the attack
[04:15] <FuM> bweh?
[04:15] <ikonia> elkbuntu apologies, totally missed it
[04:15] <n4t> I have a problem with acpi ... and the pc turnoff in a wrong way , what can I do?
[04:16] <W9ZEB> Bevdizzle: that's an awesome problem....  I don't know a solution off the top of my head, but I'm curious now, and am going to have to go looking.
[04:16] <FurryNemesis> that was worrying - anyway, FuM , is there a profiles list?
[04:16] <JayRoe> Hi can someone help me set up an IR remote control Feisty?
[04:16] <FuM> FurryNemesis, It only loads up one profile "Default"
[04:16] <FurryNemesis> FuM, looks like you need to create some more
[04:17] <FuM> FurryNemesis, May you please help me set them up so I can use Beryl?
[04:17] <FurryNemesis> http://www.beryl-themes.org/index.php?xcontentmode=6600&PHPSESSID=d73d81d25101eb4ad731cb83af8eaa27
[04:17] <vega-_> wtf, inserting an usb stick gives me TWO mount points with DIFFERENT contents, very reliable
[04:17] <FurryNemesis> or try that page for some simple settings
[04:17] <vega-_> and different sizes
[04:17] <FurryNemesis> sure, you wanted a desktop cube right?
[04:17] <rolfen> Bevdizzle: have you tried disabling your firewall (if any)?
[04:18] <ikonia> vega-_ two partitions ?
[04:18] <vega-_> ikonia: yes
[04:18] <simon__> Hi. I use a windows mobile 6 device and would very much like to synchronize it with thunderbird or another native Linux calendar. Is this possible? I have allready tried several wikis to synchronize my phone with my feisty computer but have failed. Maybe because i am to newbie. Can someone help me?
[04:18] <Bevdizzle> i dont have one installed afaik
[04:18] <ikonia> vega-_: there you go then
[04:18] <ikonia> vega-_: its displaying th two partitions
[04:18] <Bevdizzle> how can i check if there is one
[04:18] <vega-_> ikonia: hmmmm
[04:18] <SlimeyPete> vega-_: seems like reasonable behaviour to me
[04:18] <ikonia> simon__ I've been trying that for a long time
[04:18] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Yes. I had it before and it just stopped working along with Beryl alltogether.
[04:18] <rolfen> sudo iptables-save
[04:18] <ikonia> simon__ never quite got it working
[04:18] <n4t> someone can help me to solve a problem with acpi?
[04:18] <vega-_> ikonia: one is /dev/sdf and one /dev/sde1
[04:18] <ikonia> SlimeyPete very reasonable
[04:18] <ilu> I FUCKING LOVE LINUX
[04:18] <rolfen> Bevdizzle: if it shows nothing then there is no FW
[04:18] <ikonia> ilu idiot
[04:18] <FurryNemesis> ok, it probably got reset
[04:18] <ilu> woops sorry
[04:18] <PriceChild> !ohmy | ilu
[04:18] <ilu> wrong chat
[04:18] <ubotu> ilu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:18] <PriceChild> ikonia, please don't...
[04:18] <ikonia> PriceChild: I know
[04:18] <FurryNemesis> go to desktop tab
[04:18] <ikonia> just totally uncalled for
[04:19] <simon__> ikonia: to bad
[04:19] <PriceChild> ikonia, as was yours
[04:19] <FuM> K
[04:19] <FurryNemesis> hit the tick box marked cube on the left hand side
[04:19] <ikonia> PriceChild: thats where we differ
[04:19] <simon__> it should be possible to do in some way
[04:19] <FuM> All of them are Ticked.
[04:19] <Bevdizzle> nothing came back from iptables-save
[04:19] <ikonia> simon__: I had a "little" success with thunderbird - but to be honest it was a real struggle
[04:19] <vega-_> ikonia: then how come the devices are different
[04:19] <ikonia> vega-_: thats a reasonale question
[04:19] <satzzeichen> Hallo, jemand da?!?!
[04:19] <rolfen> Bevdizzle: ok so you got no firewall at all... so the prob has got to be somewhere else
[04:19] <ikonia> vega-_: strange that your seeing /dev/sde1 and /dev/sdf which does look like two seperate devices
[04:20] <rolfen> !de | satzzeichen
[04:20] <ubotu> satzzeichen: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:20] <satzzeichen> Sorry rolfen :-)
[04:20] <ikonia> vega-_: does the contents of the mount points look like the two partitions on the one device ?
[04:20] <rolfen> satzzeichen: kein problem ;)
[04:20] <satzzeichen> thanks then i will change now the channel.
[04:20] <sreeram> I got the man pages working! `manpages-dev' is the package!
[04:20] <FurryNemesis> got it?
[04:20] <vega-_> ikonia: actually afaik there should be only one partition on the usb disk
[04:20] <vega-_> ikonia: i misunderstood you before on that one
[04:20] <FuM> Yes
[04:20] <simon__> Ikonia: hm. well support for windows mobile devices OR links to good alternative linux roms for the device should be supported
[04:21] <Frogzoo> what's the ubuntu way of modifying xmodmap ?
[04:21] <simon__> its important for many people who work with linux
[04:21] <ikonia> simon__ I agree - but its not
[04:21] <ikonia> simon__ I've spent a fair bit of time
[04:21] <simon__> something for developpers
[04:21] <dinochopins> anyone has canon pixma ip1200 ?
[04:21] <simon__> ok. thanks for clearing that up. So i should better not try
[04:21] <FurryNemesis> FuM, once that box is ticked, you should have your cube back
[04:22] <simon__> *making that clear...
[04:22] <ikonia> simon__: no no, your welcome to try, and I'd appriciate knowing how you get on
[04:22] <simon__> ok
[04:22] <ikonia> simon__: I'm just saying, I've put a reasonale ammount of effort in and had very poor results
[04:22] <FuM> FurryNemesis, No dice.
[04:22] <JayRoe> can someone help me set up a hauppauge remote control. I've spent almost a week trying to get the remote to work and if I don't succed, I'll be forced to move back to Windows.
[04:22] <FurryNemesis> hmm
[04:22] <n4t> is anyone available to help me to solve a problem with acpi?
[04:22] <FurryNemesis> what else is ticked in tht panel
[04:22] <ikonia> simon__ thats not to say you won't have better fortune, but the actual lack of support is a real fight, let alone getting the actual weak support working
[04:23] <simon__> Ikonia: since you're one of the people who know what they're doing and i'm not i think i'll trust you instead of complicating my life... and look for a revolutionary solution in som wiki
[04:24] <FuM> Fade to desktop
[04:24] <Darter> is there a way to add webcam capability to Giam?...or does it already have it and just need to be activated?
[04:24] <ikonia> simon__ I've not given up - but its been a long old road
[04:24] <FuM> Rotate Cube
[04:24] <toed> is it possible to set volume per-application?
[04:24] <ikonia> simon__: also thank you for the compliment
[04:24] <simon__> i understand
[04:24] <Esdi> Good afternoon people
[04:24] <simon__> Ikonia: merely a statement :)
[04:24] <ikonia> simon__: still, thank you
[04:24] <FurryNemesis> FuM, ok, is that it?
[04:24] <gavintlgold> Any questions about compiz fusion, feel free to ask me!
[04:25] <FuM> FurryNemesis, Yes
[04:25] <ikonia> gavintlgold: this is an ubuntu support channel, you may be better touting your elite skills in a compiz based channel
[04:25] <gavintlgold> i'm already on #compiz-fusion and #compiz-fusion-dev
[04:25] <JayRoe> ikonia, how do I find a lirc, hauppauge or v4l-dvb channel?
[04:25] <erUSUL> Darter: gaim does not support webcams afaik amsn does for msn iirc
[04:26] <FurryNemesis> FuM, right, get out of the manager, then right click the gem icon and select reload window manager
[04:26] <magnetron> gavintlgold: plz join #ubuntu-effects
[04:26] <Esdi> going from RH to LFS to Debian to Gentoo to Ubuntu (in a period of 9 years)... and I must say, I'm quite impressed with Ubuntu so far. Now to remove the auto logon from xchat and to move over to my old linux channel ;-) Keep up the good work people!
[04:26] <ikonia> JayRoe: ooh, no idea, lirc has a forum and mailing list as I recall
[04:26] <r_a_f> gavintlgold: i wan to turn like beryl wheel mouse - it is possible in compiz -fusion?
[04:26] <simon__> ikonia: you're welcome. Any way i can stay up to date on you hard efforts in the synchronization war without hanging out here and asking you every day?
[04:26] <gavintlgold> r_a_f: install or enable the Viewport Mouse Switch plugin
[04:26] <FuM> FurryNemesis, I did.
[04:26] <ikonia> simon__: I'll pm my email address now and I'd be happy for you to mail me and I'll put you on my "mail list" for "stuff"
[04:26] <r_a_f> gavintlgold: will try it thanks man ;)
[04:27] <ikonia> simon__: I'll also mail my blog url which will have information up oin the next 2 weeks on this project
[04:27] <JayRoe> ikonia, you know where I should look for channels? I don't know my way around irc to be honest.
[04:27] <Darter> erUSUL: is there a program I can replace Giam with that does?
[04:27] <FurryNemesis> and still no dice
[04:27] <gavintlgold> r_a_f: but right now, it only scrolls one viewport at a time... annoying, but it should get fixed eventually
[04:27] <simon__> thx
[04:27] <ikonia> simon__: if you have rss enabled you'll get an update
[04:27] <FuM> No dice whatsoever
[04:27] <FurryNemesis> damn
[04:27] <FurryNemesis> then sorry, not sure what's going on
[04:28] <FuM> FurryNemesis, For some reason it keeps selecting Metacity as the window manage even though I select Beryl to be the window manager.
[04:28] <lam64> hi
[04:28] <erUSUL> Darter: i just told you "...amsn does for msn iirc" (iirc stands fo if i recall correctly)
[04:28] <ikonia> simon__: did you get the pm
[04:28] <Protostar> hey, does anyone know how to get amarok to stop rescanning my music folders everytime it starts
[04:28] <FurryNemesis> FuM, ah, old problem
[04:29] <Darter> ok...thanks
[04:29] <FurryNemesis> FuM, go to session options and put beryl in there
[04:29] <erUSUL> !info amsn | Darter