[12:24] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: you dont put that line it is...fstab is to identify the hardware and where it's mounted
[12:24] <rendi> this my mine /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:24] <HappyFool> s00d: what filesystem is / (or /etc) on? ext3?
[12:24] <nfinitep1astik> ok, then go to your /media/cdrom0
[12:25] <rendi> ls
[12:25] <rendi> blank
[12:25] <rendi> no file
[12:25] <rendi> my file still on cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:25] <nfinitep1astik> one sec
[12:25] <rendi> ok
[12:25] <s00d> HappyFool: ext3, I'm sure.
[12:26] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, writing the cd ;)
[12:26] <HappyFool> s00d: hrm. does 'lsattr /etc/resolv.conf' work?
[12:26] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: after iso 9660, add 'cdfs'
[12:27] <s00d> HappyFool: Same again : "lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, right
[12:27] <s00d> "
[12:27] <nfinitep1astik> make sure the comma is between iso9660 and cdfs with no spaces
[12:27] <rendi> ok wait
[12:27] <HappyFool> s00d: ok, how about mount|grep '/ '
[12:27] <ssh_rdp> Is it possible to install ubuntu without burning the cd(I have a grub installed)
[12:28] <s00d> HappyFool : "/dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"
[12:28] <HappyFool> s00d: how about 'lsattr /bin/ls' ?
[12:28] <rendi> nfinitep1astik you mean like this /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660,cdfs
[12:29] <s00d> HappyFool: "----------------- /bin/ls"
[12:29] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: yes
[12:29] <rendi> done and then
[12:29] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: you'll need to reboot
[12:29] <HappyFool> s00d: puzzling.   mount|grep '/etc'         ?
[12:29] <rendi> wooow
[12:29] <rendi> what about without reboot
[12:29] <nfinitep1astik> no worries, we'll still be here
[12:29] <HappyFool> nfinitep1astik: changing fstab does not require a reboot
[12:30] <rendi> can remount it without reboot ?
[12:30] <nfinitep1astik> try it
[12:31] <s00d> HappyFool: That doesn't return anything.
[12:31] <ompaul> where would I find the person with the authority (say it like they do in south park) or even the interest to figure out why I can't connect to the torrent service to hand away more ubuntu - kanotix is winning for the first time in months today :)
[12:31] <HappyFool> s00d: erk. how about 'lsattr /etc/passwd'
[12:32] <s00d> HappyFool "----------------- /etc/passwd"
[12:33] <HappyFool> s00d: 'ls -l /etc/resolv.conf' ?
[12:33] <s00d> HappyFool :"lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 31 2005-09-03 00:31 /etc/resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf"
[12:33] <HappyFool> s00d: ah-ha
[12:33] <s00d> What did I do?
[12:33] <wickedpuppy> anyone got problem with System -> Log out in breezy ??
[12:34] <HappyFool> s00d: try chattr'ing the file linked to instead
[12:34] <wickedpuppy> when i go there my menus hang
[12:34] <HappyFool> s00d: although I'm definitely not an expert on this
[12:34] <s00d> Um.
[12:34] <s00d> Oh, right.
[12:34] <s00d> Gotcha.
[12:34] <rendi> umm dc
[12:34] <sebest> hello is there something new with restricted kernel modules on ubuntu?
[12:35] <rendi> i have remount it and then ?
[12:35] <s00d> HappyFool: Nope. Still the same thing.
[12:35] <HappyFool> sebest: in hoary? (ubuntu 5.04)
[12:35] <sebest> my nvidia modules are no more in /lib/modules , but in /lib/linux-restricted
[12:35] <sebest> HappyFool, no breezy
[12:35] <HappyFool> s00d: ok, how about 'ls -l /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf'
[12:35] <arachnion> HiddenWolf, just one more question: if I have installed breezy, and my sound doesn't work, do I try to fix it, or post the bug immediately?
[12:36] <s00d> HappyFool: "-rw-r--r--  1 root root 75 2005-09-03 11:22 /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf"
[12:36] <HappyFool> s00d: so it looks a like a normal file on a normal ext3 filesystem
[12:37] <HappyFool> s00d: is /etc/resolvconf or /etc/resolvconf/run maybe a link too?
[12:37] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, if it doesn't work on a clean/default install,; you can file a bug immediatly. But it's better to try and find out what causes it. IE, a muted mixer is not as bad as a missing kernel module or messed up alsa.
[12:37] <arachnion> ok HiddenWolf
[12:37] <arachnion> << installing breezy
[12:37] <Smegzor> I have installed Windows 2000 Pro on a 2nd partition and Windows insisted on de-activating my primary partition.  How do I go about getting grub back so that I can dual boot to the OS of my choice?
[12:38] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, be sure you've backed up your stuff!
[12:38] <nfinitep1astik> smegzor: use a live cd to access your linux partition
[12:38] <arachnion> yes HiddenWolf it's fine
[12:38] <rendi> nfinitep1astik and then ?
[12:38] <Nalioth_zZz> Smegzor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:38] <HiddenWolf> arachnion, Best of luck. :)
[12:38] <nfinitep1astik> even better
[12:39] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: still cant acess it normally?
[12:39] <Smegzor> :D  thanks.  thats the info I was hoping you'd give me :)  I could spend all night trying to find that myself :O
[12:39] <rendi> yup
[12:39] <s00d> HappyFool: Maybe?? I don't know --> "lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 2005-09-03 00:31 run -> /dev/shm/resolvconf"
[12:39] <HappyFool> s00d: ah-ha
[12:40] <bummba> hiya
[12:40] <HappyFool> s00d: i think /dev/shm is a magic filesystem
[12:40] <HappyFool> s00d: check out 'mount|grep /dev/shm' -- it's type tmpfs
[12:40] <s00d> HappyFool: oh?
[12:40] <bummba> has any of you ever encountered that gnome did not fully start?
[12:40] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: try putting a data cd for me?
[12:40] <bummba> gdm come up fine but when I try to login it hangs
[12:40] <s00d> HappyFool: Yup "tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)"
[12:41] <HappyFool> s00d: let me quickly scan that howto to see what you're trying to do...
[12:41] <bummba> nothing in the log
[12:41] <bummba> and no idea what I could do
[12:41] <bummba> any ideas?
[12:41] <HappyFool> s00d: oh, that instruction applies if you don't install resolvconf
[12:41] <Seveas> !xhangs
[12:41] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:41] <nalioths_dog> bummba, no error msgs?
[12:42] <HappyFool> s00d: i think you are following step 1 -- i think step 2 is an alternative, not an addition
[12:42] <s00d> HappyFool: I uninstalled it, because that method doesn't seem to be working? :-/
[12:42] <norhted> hi everyone, i need some help about GRUB
[12:42] <rendi> Don't Phunk With My Heart.wav
[12:42] <HappyFool> s00d: oh. try uninstalling with the '--purge' option
[12:42] <rendi> Location cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:42] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: not a music cd, a data one
[12:42] <bummba> nalioths_dog: nope...nothing in gdm log and nothing in X log
[12:42] <Seveas> bummba, login in text mode, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedit
[12:42] <Seveas> and clean out /tmp
[12:42] <bummba> nalioths_dog: and all the other logs as well not
[12:42] <HappyFool> s00d: are you using aptitude or apt-get?
[12:42] <rendi> this is cd music
[12:43] <s00d> HappyFool: Um. I already removed it with synaptic. Do I have to reinstall it before I do that?
[12:43] <rendi> what ur mean data ?
[12:43] <HappyFool> s00d: hang on, let me check what the synaptic method is
[12:43] <bummba> Seveas: ohhh maybe I should say that it doesn't behave like that all the time
[12:43] <s00d> HappyFool: Thanks
[12:43] <nfinitep1astik> rendi: anything else that's NOT music....i just need to make sure your drive is mounted correctly
[12:43] <bummba> Seveas: just sometimes...and kill X and let it restart and try to login again won't help
[12:43] <HappyFool> s00d: ok, in synaptic, find to the 'resolvconf' package, right-click and choose 'Mark for compelete removal' and the 'apply'
[12:43] <bummba> Seveas: a real complete restart does only help
[12:44] <Seveas> bummba, do you oftern run things as root?
[12:44] <bummba> Seveas: nope
[12:44] <bummba> Seveas: I use only sudo...
[12:44] <s00d> HappyFool: And than can I try locking my resolvconf again?
[12:44] <bummba> Seveas: and only when it's needed
[12:44] <nalioths_dog> bummba, do you use sudo to start gui apps?
[12:44] <scanwinder> what are .diff files and how do i use them?(ive got 1 that patches dillo with tab and frame support)
[12:44] <bummba> nalioths_dog: nope...never
[12:44] <HappyFool> s00d: yeah, though you might need to create an /etc/resolv.conf first
[12:45] <nalioths_dog> scanwinder, open a terminal and "man patch"
[12:45] <norhted> i want to add my windows to GRUB menu.lst
[12:45] <bummba> Seveas: when I login in I see that gnome begins to start but the splashscreen does not come and it hangs at that point forever
[12:45] <topyli> is it better to upgrade to breezy, or do a clean install?
[12:46] <sorush20> anyone here using Lycos or Hotmail or Yahoo webmail.. well what happened to the extara editable composing features..  it all seems to be plain text now days even gmail..has anyone been using a webmail service that gives you spell checking and smiles and html formating..
[12:46] <norhted> the example in the menu.lst didnot work
[12:46] <s00d> HappyFool: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
[12:46] <ompaul> !grub
[12:46] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:46] <nalioths_dog> topyli, upgrade. this is not windows
[12:46] <HappyFool> s00d: heh. np ;)
[12:47] <s00d> Hopefully, no more DNS problems. :-p
[12:47] <ompaul> norhted that ubotu stuff should be useful
[12:47] <HappyFool> ah-ha! i know how to play a cd in xmms.
[12:47] <HappyFool> rendi: you still around?
[12:47] <topyli> Nalioth_zZz: on my work box i just had a hard time. did work eventually though. also, this was not very recently, so things might have improved
[12:47] <norhted> ompaul, what is ubotu
[12:47] <s00d> Is there a good c++ bittorrent client for linux?
[12:47] <rendi> yes HappyFool
[12:47] <ompaul> !ubotu
[12:47] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:47] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, is your music cd in the drive?
[12:47] <rendi> how ?
[12:47] <rendi> yes
[12:48] <ompaul> tell norhted about grub
[12:48] <Nalioth_zZz> topyli: i just tried today with a daily on my imac, and still no dice
[12:48] <Dethread> hi, I have a problem connecting to my university's network via VPN. Can someone help me?
[12:48] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, first thing is to check your audio output. right-click on the xmms window (say on the X in the bottom-right corner) and choose Options -> Preferences
[12:48] <topyli> Nalioth_zZz: ok. btw, what the hell is "windows"? :_)
[12:48] <nalioths_dog> s00d, bittornado
[12:48] <ompaul> norhted, I will ask the bot again and you can grab the urls from there
[12:48] <falemagn> hello
[12:48] <ompaul> !grub
[12:48] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:48] <nalioths_dog> s00d, woops, you said c++
[12:48] <rendi> then
[12:48] <bummba> hmm annoying somehow
[12:48] <falemagn> guys, is there a way to bypass ubuntu's partitioning tool at installation time? It's not able to detect the partitions on one of the hdd's I have
[12:48] <norhted> ompaul, thnx :)
[12:49] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, what does the button under 'Output Plugin' say?
[12:49] <ompaul> norhted, np
[12:49] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: what do you want it to detect?
[12:49] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, ehm, the partitions I already have?
[12:49] <HappyFool> rendi: just the first word or two is ok
[12:49] <falemagn> it doesnt see it
[12:49] <rendi> eSound
[12:49] <s00d> nalioths_dog: Yeah, I'm tryng to see if I can avoid a python client. IT's a bit heavy on my system.
[12:49] <HappyFool> rendi: great
[12:49] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: well duh =P...but what partition is it not recognizing?
[12:49] <bummba> falemagn: what kind of partition is it?
[12:50] <rendi> and then
[12:50] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, under 'Input plugins' (just above) do you see 'CD Audio Player' ?
[12:50] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, it doesn't see _any_ partitions
[12:50] <rendi> i see
[12:50] <bummba> falemagn: so there is probably any :)
[12:50] <rendi> configure it ?
[12:50] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[12:50] <HappyFool> rendi: let's try; don't change anything though
[12:50] <falemagn> bummba, you'd think I know whether or not I have partitions on my hdd...
[12:50] <HappyFool> rendi: click on that entry, and click configure
[12:50] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: do you have an existing filesystem on your hdd(s)?
[12:50] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, yes, of course
[12:50] <bummba> falemagn: hehe..does it detect the drive?
[12:50] <rendi> ok
[12:51] <falemagn> bummba, it does, of course.
[12:51] <nfinitep1astik> bummba: lol
[12:51] <HappyFool> rendi: what do the 'Device' and 'Directory' entries say? (under CD audio player configuration)
[12:51] <bummba> nfinitep1astik: the filesystem is not needed for the partitioning
[12:51] <rendi> dev/cdrom
[12:51] <phrizer> is it generally true that linux/gnome feels less responsive than say windows XP? or just in my system? ;o
[12:51] <falemagn> I know that partition table of that hdd is somewhat non-standard, but fdisk is able to handle that drive properly
[12:51] <rendi> dir /cdrom/
[12:51] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, good
[12:52] <rendi> lol
[12:52] <rendi> and then
[12:52] <bummba> falemagn: try cfdisk
[12:52] <phrizer> I'm finding scrolling in a window for example, is interrupting a mp3 playing. and stuff.
[12:52] <HappyFool> rendi: click 'cancel', and 'cancel' again to get back to xmms
[12:52] <pippijn> hi all
[12:52] <falemagn> bummba, the problem is that I cant
[12:52] <rendi> yes
[12:52] <reiki> phrizer: mine is actually MORE respnsive, but I'm coming from an old and "dirty" WinXP installation into a fresh Ubuntu installation
[12:52] <falemagn> bummba, the problem is that I can't seem able to go past that stage in the installation
[12:52] <bummba> falemagn: ohh shit...forgot :)
[12:52] <HappyFool> rendi: now, right click on xmms again and choose 'play directory'
[12:52] <falemagn> without configuring a root directory
[12:52] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: by chance....you can see your hda in the BIOS right......?
[12:53] <HappyFool> rendi: scroll up until you see 'cdrom' (under /)
[12:53] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, I can see my hda from anywhere
[12:53] <rendi> and then
[12:53] <HappyFool> rendi: click on that, click OK and then press the 'play' button on XMMS
[12:53] <rendi> is blank
[12:53] <HappyFool> rendi: that's ok; it's a 'fake' directory
[12:53] <phrizer> hmm
[12:53] <rendi> ok then
[12:53] <falemagn> the problem is that the partitioning tool of ubuntu must be thinking the partition table is invalid and hence doesn't display any partitions
[12:53] <bummba> is the breezy stuff on the mirrors?
[12:54] <bummba> maybe an update would solve the gnome startup problem
[12:54] <MarkAngels> Hi, I get timed out when I try to access ubuntuforums.org. Is it down? I need help installing a wifi usb dongle
[12:54] <HappyFool> rendi: is it working?
[12:54] <rendi> nothing
[12:54] <bummba> can't seem to find anything on the forums about my problem
[12:54] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: have you tried using fdisk?
[12:54] <rendi> is blank
[12:54] <rendi> :)
[12:54] <HappyFool> rendi: what's blank?
[12:54] <rendi> i can't find any file on it
[12:54] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, fdisk, as said, works. But I can't use fdisk to install ubuntu, can I?
[12:55] <rendi> on /cdrom
[12:55] <falemagn> I dont need to repartition the drivers
[12:55] <HappyFool> rendi: there aren't files there
[12:55] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: no but you can check your hd's integrity
[12:55] <rendi> yes
[12:55] <HappyFool> rendi: it's just a way to tell xmms to play the music cd
[12:55] <falemagn> I just need to tell the installation program to map the partitions to certain directories
[12:55] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, the hdd is fine
[12:55] <HappyFool> rendi: click 'OK' in the directory selection window; you should see 'CD AUDIO TRACK 01' appear in the xmms window
[12:55] <rendi> my file on cdda:///dev/hdc
[12:56] <HappyFool> rendi: the files will not appear; you cannot use this method to rip .WAV files from the cd
[12:56] <HappyFool> rendi: only to play it
[12:57] <rendi> same can't play with xmms
[12:57] <rendi> only cd player
[12:57] <topyli> someone please upload on the web a good sources.list for breezy
[12:57] <falemagn> so, no way to bypass that partitioning tool?
[12:57] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: not that im aware of
[12:57] <nfinitep1astik> falemagn: i've yet to encounter a problem like that
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, let's try one more time
[12:58] <falemagn> too bad, no ubuntu for me
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: do you have xmms open?
[12:58] <rendi> ok
[12:58] <rendi> yes
[12:58] <nfinitep1astik> or just format c:
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, type Ctrl+L
[12:58] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, yeah, sure :)
[12:58] <nfinitep1astik> lol
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: a new window should appear
[12:58] <rendi> yes
[12:58] <HappyFool> rendi: type    /cdrom    there, and press enter
[12:59] <HappyFool> rendi: your CD should start playing
[12:59] <rendi> ye splay
[12:59] <rendi> play
[12:59] <HappyFool> rendi: you should see the time changing on xmms
[12:59] <HappyFool> *yay*
[12:59] <rendi> but can't hear a song
[12:59] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, where can I make a bug report?
[12:59] <nfinitep1astik> lmao
[12:59] <HappyFool> change the volume
[12:59] <rendi> lol
[12:59] <rendi> volume is full
[12:59] <norhted> ompaul, i have 2 HDDs which are hd0, and hd1; the ubuntu is in hd0 and windows hd1.   i used root (hd1,0) but when i tried to open the os it says filesystem unknown
[12:59] <rendi> hahaha
[12:59] <nfinitep1astik> bugzilla.mozilla.org
[12:59] <HappyFool> *collapse*
[01:00] <falemagn> nfinitep1astik, ehm, somehow I dont think thats the bugtracker for ubuntu?
[01:00] <nfinitep1astik> oh er..
[01:00] <nfinitep1astik> whups
[01:00] <nfinitep1astik> sorry, i was helping with someone with firefox and that was my last clippy
[01:00] <reiki> do some programs need certain sound systems? I mean... is it possible he's set up for alsa and XMMS is looking for oss?
[01:00] <HappyFool> rendi: xmms has a separate sound control
[01:00] <HappyFool> no, you said the output plugin was esound, remember?
[01:01] <topyli> xmms is legacy anyway
[01:01] <nfinitep1astik> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[01:01] <rendi> ic
[01:01] <rendi> yes
[01:02] <HappyFool> rendi: ok, i need a cup of tea. fiddle around and see if you can get it working
[01:02] <norhted> i have 2 HDDs which are hd0, and hd1; the ubuntu is in hd0 and windows hd1.   i used root (hd1,0) but when i tried to open the os it says filesystem unknown
[01:02] <reiki> "figddle around" is a technical term I've used often :)
[01:03] <rendi> :)
[01:03] <reiki> s/fiddle/figddle
[01:03] <rendi> brb reboot my pc and switch to m$ to play my cd
[01:03] <nfinitep1astik> norhted: is your fstab setup for it?
[01:04] <norhted> nfinitep1astik, nope :( i just added the second HDD after installation
[01:04] <nfinitep1astik> i swear xmms likes to only play 20 songs out of the 1000 in the play list
[01:04] <Seveas> norhted, put the output of fdisk -l on the pastebin please
[01:05] <HappyFool> well, the method to play a CD is rather obscure, imho
[01:06] <norhted> Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/353504
[01:07] <HappyFool> gah, bmp is as arcane
[01:07] <topyli> reiki: "figddle" sounds a lot better in this context :-)
[01:08] <ompaul> norhted, I am happy and unhappy with your situation, unhappy cos I can't give you an answer and happy because I don't run that other stuff :) however that being said there is an example which includes a thing called chainloader in the menu.lst so make sure you have all that example in there
[01:08] <ompaul> norhted, with the changes that you spoke about
[01:08] <norhted> Seveas, do you want me to paste the menu.lst also?
[01:08] <reiki> topyli: I'm figddling around with trying to get my microphone to actually be recorded in the Sound Recorder app :)
[01:08] <norhted> ompaul, :)
[01:08] <ompaul> norhted, pasting that would be useful
[01:08] <Seveas> norhted, would be helpful :)
[01:09] <topyli> reiki: happy figddling ;-)
[01:09] <reiki> danke
[01:09] <norhted> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/353506
[01:10] <ompaul> who is in charge of the ubuntu torrent server side (which I can't connect to) cos I would like them to check it out I can't connect
[01:10] <reiki> Seveas: I opened alsa mixer as you instructed yesterday. Tabbed to teh mic vontrols. It won't let me raise volume, however farther down there are capture controls and those are both up. I still can't get microphone working
[01:10] <Seveas> ompaul, the thing is often broken
[01:10] <Seveas> reiki, try amixer in a terminal
[01:10] <Seveas> and paste the output on the pastebin
[01:11] <ompaul> norhted, where are you going with boot?
[01:11] <ompaul> norhted, please paste the whole menu.lst
[01:11] <norhted> ompaul, i did it
[01:12] <ompaul> norhted, ehhhhhh that is for one operating system only - so why the grub?>
[01:12] <Seveas> norhted, move the XP entry outide the debian automagic kernel list or you'll lose it on updates
[01:12] <norhted> ompaul, line 124 to 128 there is an xp
[01:13] <Seveas> norhted, did you install windows after installing Ubuntu?
[01:13] <norhted> Seveas, ok
[01:13] <reiki> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1849
[01:13] <norhted> Seveas, no the xp was installed the HDD long time ago. but when i am installing the ubuntu this second HDD was not attached to my computer
[01:13] <ompaul> norhted, and remove the wood boot from that chainloader should be happy without it
[01:14] <ompaul> norhted, s/wood/word
[01:14] <norhted> ompaul, sorry i couldnt get it
[01:14] <Seveas> norhted, that might confuse windows
[01:14] <ompaul> norhted, read that version
[01:14] <norhted> ompaul, do you mean `remove the boot line?`
[01:15] <Seveas> reiki, the capture for 'Mix' is off
[01:15] <ompaul> I just posted :)
[01:15] <ompaul> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/353510
[01:16] <norhted> Seveas, should i install LILO instead of GRUB?
[01:16] <Seveas> norhted, that will not help too much
[01:16] <Seveas> what was the exact error again?>
[01:17] <norhted> Seveas, what should i do then?
[01:17] <mejobloggs> can you guys help me with svn on ubuntu?
[01:17] <mejobloggs> i get this: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem
[01:17] <yonil> I've installed amaroK (using apt-get) and it just doesn't produce any sound ... -- any ideas ?
[01:17] <norhted> Filesystem type mismatch or Unknown filesystem, i dont remember.
[01:17] <ompaul> yonil, does anything else create sound?
[01:18] <Sybaek> How can I get my Fluxbox to be selectable in the graphical startup that Ubuntu has?
[01:18] <Bobulor> seveas: hurray
[01:18] <norhted> Seveas, ompaul, anyway thnx
[01:19] <Bobulor> seveas: anyway, I have two issues. My sound only selectively works, and I hate my mplayerplug-in
[01:19] <Bobulor> seveas, I have totem movie player, is there a way to make mozilla use that by default?
[01:20] <Seveas> not yet, in breezy there is a mozilla plugin for mplayer :)
[01:20] <youngcoder> anyone know the command to start smbd and nmbd?
[01:20] <Bobulor> seveas, i dont know what that means but ok
[01:20] <Seveas> not yet, in breezy there is a mozilla plugin for *totem*
[01:20] <HappyFool> do I report bugs in multiverse to bugzilla.ubuntu.com, or is that for main/restricted only ?
[01:21] <Bobulor> ok
[01:21] <youngcoder> anyone know the command to start smbd and nmbd?
[01:21] <mxpxpod> does anyone here use gdesklets? I'm having a problem where if I start gdesklets, it crashes X
[01:21] <Bobulor> seveas what's this breezy and hoary and other stuff i keep hearing about that I've also seen on my Synaptic program?
[01:21] <HappyFool> youngcoder:   sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[01:22] <HappyFool> !breezy
[01:22] <ubotu> somebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[01:22] <youngcoder> HappyFool, will that start all the daemons?
[01:22] <HappyFool> youngcoder: that should start smbd and nmbd
[01:22] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you can take a look inside; (try 'less /etc/init.d/samba') -- i think it starts nmbd first
[01:23] <reiki> Seveas: turned on cature for Mix and still nothing. I'll experiment. I'd love to get this working but it's not a high priority. Some folks have more important problems
[01:23] <reiki> :)
[01:23] <youngcoder> HappyFool, it said failed
[01:23] <youngcoder> lol
[01:23] <HappyFool> youngcoder: then perhaps your config file is broken
[01:23] <youngcoder> lol
[01:23] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you did remember the 'sudo', right?
[01:24] <youngcoder> i was in root terminal
[01:24] <HappyFool> youngcoder: try 'restart' instead of start
[01:24] <Bobulor> seveas: every time I load a movie on mozilla, mplayer comes in and (maybe), loads the whole thing. But then it just sits there cranking away a whole-lot-a-nothing.
[01:25] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you can use 'testparm' to check your samba config file
[01:25] <youngcoder> i did
[01:25] <youngcoder> it said ok
[01:25] <youngcoder> and restart passed
[01:25] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ah, so it was running already
[01:26] <youngcoder> yes but not working
[01:26] <reiki> Seveas: in alsamixer... if I toggle capture ON for Mix.... it UNtoggles capture for Mic. Is that normal?
[01:26] <mumbles> dammit
[01:27] <mumbles> i need to wait trill my dad drills though the wall so i can get the server online again
[01:27] <youngcoder> HappyFool, my windows machine still wont recognize this comp
[01:28] <youngcoder> HappyFool, do a lot of people have problems with this?
[01:28] <HappyFool> youngcoder: samba can be tricky to setup
[01:28] <HappyFool> youngcoder: can you ping the windows machine (using IP addresses)? and vice versa?
[01:29] <youngcoder> yes
[01:30] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ok, do you have an anonymous share in the samba config? that will let us test fairly easily
[01:30] <youngcoder> YES
[01:30] <youngcoder> oops sorry
[01:31] <yonil> ompaul, yes Beep-media-player (similiar to xmms) does
[01:32] <elvirolo> hi
[01:33] <slept> hello
[01:33] <ompaul> yonil, what is in /etc/issue?
[01:33] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ok, what does 'smbclient -L localhost' do on your machine?
[01:33] <elvirolo> is it safe to upgrade to breezy ? i'm currently using it on a separate partition for testing (from a fresh install) but it was wondering if there were still issues about upgrading from hoary
[01:34] <HappyFool> youngcoder: just press <enter> for the password
[01:34] <HappyFool> youngcoder: and don't paste here ;)
[01:34] <yonil> ompaul, Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l<NEW LINE>You have new mail in /var/mail/yoni
[01:34] <youngcoder> lol
[01:34] <youngcoder> ok
[01:34] <youngcoder> gimmie a sec i got a phone call
[01:34] <ompaul> yonil, I was curious cos I could not find beep
[01:35] <yonil> ompaul,  huh ? apt-get install beep-media-player
[01:35] <yonil> ompaul, xmms also works fine ..
[01:35] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[01:35] <ompaul> yonil, ehhh it helps if I also include -player :)
[01:36] <yonil> ;)
[01:36] <HappyFool> elvirolo: i think breezy is still for developers, not for end-users
[01:36] <ompaul> !breezy
[01:36] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[01:36] <elvirolo> HappyFool: well, it is, but they have passed the feature freeze haven't they ?
[01:36] <slept> this is of topic, but does anyone have expierience with beos ? I need to find bone or nfs
[01:37] <elvirolo> i'm currently using breezy, and i like it, it works better than hoary here
[01:37] <yonil> anyone knows why possibly i don't get sound from amaroK ? (it doesn't seem like it even plays the song when i double click it)
[01:37] <HappyFool> elvirolo: i don't know; however, everytime i come onto irc there is someone with a weird new breezy problem
[01:38] <elvirolo> HappyFool: you can't even imagine the number of weird probs i have with *hoary* !
[01:38] <elvirolo> my scanner doesn't work although it worked on all my previous distros
[01:39] <dtamas> Plase help! My desktop fully unvisible! Only taskbar works. What can I do? I use breezy.
[01:39] <HappyFool> elvirolo: yeah, but hoary isn't a moving target for fixes. anyway, if you can risk losing your machine, or taking time to fix odd problems, go for it.
[01:39] <elvirolo> my KDE menu doesn't show have the entries it should show
[01:39] <elvirolo> etc...
[01:39] <joee> where do I find my .profile file=
[01:39] <elvirolo> HappyFool: well, again, it works,on my separate partition
[01:40] <ompaul> yonil, perhaps it is more of a Kde thing - I strictly gnome except when I'm not :) apt-get install kubuntu-desktop might shove some stuff in the backgroud which would help, but for to test it I have to d/l 27 megs of stuff over a 1 meg line that is being used to feed a linux torrent :) but I shall install same
[01:40] <HappyFool> joee: in /home/joeee (or whatever your home directory is)
[01:41] <ompaul> dtamas, ctrl+alt+f2
[01:41] <elvirolo> dtamas: and then upgrade, and then hope ...
[01:41] <yonil> ompaul, lol, but is there a gnome amaroK-like application ?
[01:41] <ompaul> dtamas, then login and run the command >> killall nautilus <<
[01:41] <joee> HappyFool and then just vi .profile ?
[01:42] <elvirolo> yonil: yes, but it's not quite as good
[01:42] <elvirolo> yonil: it is called quodlibet
[01:42] <ompaul> yonil, maybe  rhythmbox but I am not sure
[01:42] <HappyFool> joee: yeah. 'vi ~/.profile' will work too, from anywhere
[01:42] <yonil> ok thanks ompaul, elvirolo
[01:42] <HappyFool> joee: you may want to check exactly when .profile is used -- i think it's only for 'login' shells. Check out 'man bash'
[01:42] <elvirolo> rythmbox box is not way as powerful as amarok i'm afraid to say :(
[01:42] <dazvid> I need help installing GRUB onto my windows partition.. LILO is currently installed and doesnt work with my XP. When trying to install to my hda1, it says its a read-only partition.. how can I make it writeable?
[01:43] <elvirolo> yonil: i've used quodlibet quite a lot, and it's the closest to amarok you'll get, AFAIK
[01:43] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1850
[01:43] <joee> HappyFool: yeah I needs to be, because I want to set this EV in my profile ORACLE_BASE=/u01/app/oracle; export ORACLE_BASE
[01:43] <aRAchNiON> HiddenWolf, I'm on breezy now, still no sound
[01:43] <Bobulor> whenever I try to watch a video on mozilla, mplayer downloads the file (maybe) and sits around not doing anything afterwards. What do I do?
[01:43] <aRAchNiON> where do I submit my bug?
[01:44] <elvirolo> aRAchNiON: bugs.ubuntu.com ?
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ok ;)
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ah
[01:44] <ompaul> aRAchNiON, or you can try malone
[01:44] <HappyFool> youngcoder: can you put your /etc/samba/smb.conf up on the pastebin/
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ty HiddenWolf
[01:44] <ompaul> malone.launchpad.com
[01:44] <aRAchNiON> ompaul, ?
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> ompaul, main is still bugzilla
[01:44] <youngcoder> HappyFool, ya one sec
[01:44] <ompaul> HiddenWolf, ack
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, bugzilla, not malone
[01:44] <elvirolo> whoops, i HiddenWolf is right, bugs is for kde
[01:45] <dtamas> you can write on ntfs with captive-ntfs
[01:45] <ompaul> dtamas, why would you put a windows device driver near a linux kernel, why not get an ext reader for windows
[01:46] <ompaul> dtamas,  ext reader / writer for windows
[01:46] <elvirolo> ompaul: cause they're not very reliable?
[01:46] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1851
[01:46] <Bobulor> ubuntu noob = needs help
[01:46] <dtamas> the killall nautilus works! thanks!
[01:47] <ompaul> elvirolo, you realise that that was the most pointless irc session :-)
[01:47] <elvirolo> ompaul: more or less, yes :)
[01:47] <Bobulor> breezy
[01:47] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, package linux please include lspci -v |grep -i audio and ls /proc/asound and lspci
[01:48] <A-Z-I-Z> Is there a GUI application for controlling wireless connections ?
[01:48] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1852
[01:48] <elvirolo> A-Z-I-Z: do you use gnome ?
[01:48] <aRAchNiON> HiddenWolf, sure
[01:48] <Bobulor> dammit
[01:48] <A-Z-I-Z> right now.. KDE
[01:48] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, thanks. :)
[01:49] <ompaul> dtamas, I would not allow a windows device driver near a linux kernel - perhaps have a look at an ext reader / writer for windows only check the reliabity before you commit to some solution
[01:49] <Bobulor> ...
[01:49] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, also mention that you use breezy, and that you've tried opening mixers etc. That's 2 default questions they ask. :)
[01:49] <elvirolo> A-Z-I-Z: well, kwifimanager i suppose then
[01:49] <A-Z-I-Z> elvirolo: what's the name of the application for wireless in gnome ?
[01:49] <elvirolo> for gnome, you can use this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49148
[01:50] <HappyFool> youngcoder: hmm. 'anonymous' browsing with smbclient works here
[01:50] <elvirolo> which is good
[01:50] <ubuntuguy> Does Ubuntu hire developers? How can someone get a job working for Ubuntu?
[01:50] <selinium> Anybody about how knows ablout compiling from source?
[01:50] <elvirolo> ubuntuguy: canonical does
[01:50] <elvirolo> selinium: yes
[01:50] <aRAchNiON> ok HiddenWolf
[01:50] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuguy, canonical hires developers, yes
[01:50] <aRAchNiON> I'll do it in a sec, just eating now
[01:50] <HappyFool> youngcoder: try maybe simplifying your smb.conf, at least for testing
[01:50] <ubuntuguy> elvirolo: URL?
[01:50] <HiddenWolf> aRAchNiON, take your time. I'm off now tho.
[01:50] <aRAchNiON> o/
[01:51] <youngcoder> HappyFool, how simple can it get?
[01:51] <HappyFool> youngcoder: i can paste mine, if you like
[01:51] <HappyFool> youngcoder: well, remove the 'domain master' stuff
[01:51] <selinium> elvirolo: do yuo mind having a look at the output from a make. I am not sure if it failed or not. Very new to compiling! Second one!
[01:51] <HappyFool> youngcoder: and the 'server signing'
[01:51] <elvirolo> ubuntuguy: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu obviously
[01:51] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, be prepared to use a lot of python :)
[01:51] <A-Z-I-Z> elvirolo: thanks
[01:51] <elvirolo> selinium: sure, but let's do it by mp
[01:51] <elvirolo> A-Z-I-Z: np
[01:51] <elvirolo> pm*
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> http://freshmeat.net/projects/smtm/
[01:52] <youngcoder> HappyFool, please do i need an example
[01:52] <siimo> can someone please tell me how to extract an RPM ?
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> Now I REALLY LOVE Debian/Ubuntu
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> how cool is that?
[01:52] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ok, standby. Mine is pretty close to the standard ubuntu setup
[01:52] <ubuntuguy> elvirolo: How is canonical related to ubuntu?
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> siimo, turn that rpm into a .deb with alein
[01:52] <Dr_Fate> alien
[01:53] <elvirolo>       rpm2cpio {FullNameOfRPM} | cpio -iumd     {FullNameOfFileToExtract}
[01:53] <ptlo> ubuntuguy, canonical is the company that produces ubuntu
[01:53] <elvirolo> well, used to
[01:53] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, why not read about it on that web page :)
[01:53] <elvirolo> canonical was founded by mark shuttleworth, and created the ubuntu project
[01:54] <HappyFool> youngcoder: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1853
[01:54] <ubuntuguy> OK, who produces it now? and why does canonical no longer "produce" ubuntu?
[01:54] <elvirolo> since them, the guy created the ubuntu foundation though, so that it is independent financially from canonical
[01:54] <HappyFool> youngcoder: the one hacky thing i've added is the 'interfaces=' and 'bind interfaces only' lines
[01:54] <HiddenWolf> ubuntuguy, the ubuntu foundation will produce Breezy with the community from the next release on.
[01:54] <siimo> elvirolo, rpm2cpio is not in apt?
[01:55] <ubuntuguy> does the ubuntu foundation hire?
[01:55] <elvirolo> siimo: oh ..., that's what i used when i had RH
[01:55] <barkman> Hi! I'm having poblems with my repositories for 5.04. Can anyone give me a list of working repos? Thanks!
[01:55] <ompaul> !repos
[01:55] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:55] <barkman> Thanks, ompaul
[01:56] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, why not check out the web pages and see if you have anything to offer
[01:56] <elvirolo> siimo: let me check
[01:56] <youngcoder> HappyFool, that is simpler than mine?
[01:56] <HappyFool> youngcoder: well, it is closer to bog-standard ubuntu setup
[01:56] <youngcoder> ok
[01:56] <youngcoder> brb
[01:56] <HappyFool> youngcoder: or, to put it another way, It Works Here(tm)
[01:57] <siimo> Dr_Fate, can i extract it after converting to deb
[01:57] <ubuntuguy> thank  you
[01:57] <Dr_Fate> siimo, they don't "extract" they install
[01:58] <dazvid> i am trying to install grub to my boot dir, (on an xfs partition) and it gives me a warning, and then the install hangs.. any ideas?
[01:58] <siimo> i'd like to extract since its not designed for ubuntu
[01:58] <ompaul> ubuntuguy, to see what the community of developers are up to check out #ubuntu-devel
[01:59] <slept> dazvid, you dont install to a dir you install to a device like grub-install  /dev/hda
[02:00] <lJlolel> Dr_Fate, the charts aren't working for me in smtm
[02:00] <dazvid> Hmm, I read on the ubuntu guide to install it to the boot dir :S
[02:00] <Smegzor> i'm running the live cd to recover my grub boot loader after installing a 2nd OS.  following the howto.. how do I tell if I have a /boot/ listing in my fstab?
[02:00] <HappyFool> Smegzor: open the /etc/fstab file (on your drive, so maybe /mnt/hda3/etc/fstab or something) and look for a /boot entry
[02:01] <dazvid> Yup
[02:01] <Smegzor> thanks
[02:02] <slept> dazvid, thats the place where you have configuration (and splashimigas if you like to). install grub via apt, and then do grub-install
[02:02] <dazvid> I can't open my terminal now because that install hung.. so
[02:02] <dazvid> brb
[02:04] <scumbo> siimo, see if there's a package "rpm".  It exists in Debian and may be available for ubuntu.  It has rpm2cpio.
[02:05] <siimo> ok thx
[02:06] <spiritz> I can't remember the name of an equivalent to rpmfind for deb packages. Any clue anyone?
[02:06] <bdoetsch> hi there
[02:06] <HappyFool> spiritz: apt-cache, maybe?
[02:06] <HappyFool> spiritz: otherwise take a look at packages.ubuntu.com
[02:06] <spiritz> I was looking for a website indeed
[02:06] <scumbo> spiritz, rpmseek.com
[02:07] <A-Z-I-Z> is there an application that shows the battery level of my laptop ??
[02:07] <spiritz> scumbo: perfect; thanks
[02:07] <bdoetsch> anyone knows how i can get alexandria to start up in breezy?
[02:07] <spiritz> A-Z-I-Z: acpii does that
[02:07] <Dr_Fate> http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2005/05/04/#smtm_charts_fix
[02:08] <spiritz> A-Z-I-Z: acpi not acpiii sorry
[02:08] <HappyFool> A-Z-I-Z: right-click on the panel, choose 'Add to panel' and scroll down to the 'Battery charge monitor' (I don't have a laptop, so i haven't used it myself)
[02:08] <A-Z-I-Z> HappyFool: is that for Gnome ?
[02:08] <HappyFool> A-Z-I-Z: indeed
[02:08] <Behi> anybody from australia? or finland?
[02:09] <slept> Behi, what do australia an finland have in common ?
[02:10] <Juhaz> they're on same planet?
[02:10] <Behi> slept: my interest in them :D ;)
[02:10] <ompaul> monthy python did stuff about both of them
[02:11] <Behi> Juhaz: you're right man ;)
[02:11] <Behi> LOL!
[02:11] <ompaul> the song finland and the sketch bruce
[02:11] <aRAchNiON> I'm about to post a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:11] <Behi> anybody from adelaide or helsinki?
[02:12] <aRAchNiON> is there anything I should enter in the URL or Cc fields?
[02:12] <aRAchNiON> it's about a sound problem
[02:12] <youngcoder> hey HappyFool , i think the problem is that my windows box had the domain controller enabled
[02:13] <youngcoder> HappyFool, i fixed it and rebooted and i will post my results
[02:13] <HappyFool> youngcoder: ah. interesting
[02:13] <youngcoder> that will definitely cause a problem
[02:13] <aRAchNiON> ..?
[02:14] <aRAchNiON> ok, I'm commiting
[02:15] <aRAchNiON> could someone check if there is anything I forgot to mention here?
[02:15] <aRAchNiON> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14643
[02:19] <dazvid> ok, I retried installing it just to a partition.. and the same error appears, and locks up my terminal.
[02:19] <dazvid> Really frustrating actually
[02:20] <youngcoder> HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1854   ....  if my windows box doesnt show a workgroup name then what setting is wrong on the windows box?
[02:20] <youngcoder> HappyFool, i ensured that it was set to MSHOME
[02:21] <HappyFool> youngcoder: sorry, i'm not sure
[02:21] <HappyFool> youngcoder: is this a domain or a workgroup?
[02:21] <Smegzor> hmm..  I have finished recovering my mbr after installing windows to a 2nd partition, but after rebooting, all I get is a command prompt grub>  it was working before I installed windows and I followed the howto.  how can I fix this?
[02:22] <slept> youngcoder, do  smbtree
[02:22] <scumbo> dazvid, you looking for anyone in particular?
[02:22] <youngcoder> slept ok now what?
[02:22] <grxmrx> hello
[02:22] <youngcoder> HappyFool, workgroup
[02:22] <dazvid> not really, just anyone who thinks they know whats going on really ;/
[02:22] <hamourabi> hi roo
[02:23] <hamourabi> hi room
[02:23] <youngcoder> grxmrx, hello
[02:23] <aRAchNiON> I'm going
[02:23] <youngcoder> bye aRAchNiON
[02:23] <dazvid> scumbo, slept told me I had to install to an actual partition.. which I just tried, and it still had the same error with XFS partition stuff
[02:23] <aRAchNiON> bye o/
[02:23] <dazvid> and then just hangs
[02:23] <hamourabi> i've installed realplyer 10 but when i try tp run it nothing happens
[02:23] <hamourabi> what to do?
[02:24] <scumbo> dazvid, I don't think I saw your original error message.
[02:24] <dazvid> "Due to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
[02:24] <dazvid> fault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
[02:24] <dazvid> can be ignored.
[02:24] <dazvid> "
[02:24] <aRAchNiON> ... messy shutdown, again :S
[02:25] <aRAchNiON> :(
[02:25] <youngcoder> slept, you still with me?
[02:25] <slept> youngcoder, what is excactly your problem with samba ? you cant access the shares from windows ?
[02:25] <dazvid> thats after the command "grub-install /dev/hda
[02:26] <Smegzor> anyone know a nice way to recover my boot loader?  Is it possible to install a new one from scratch without losing anything?
[02:26] <bassembg> hi room
[02:26] <youngcoder> slept, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1854 ... yes i cant access them and i got this
[02:26] <scumbo> dazvid, /dev/hda being your entire disk.  That's what you intend?
[02:26] <bassembg> i've installed realplyer 10 but when i try tp run it nothing happens
[02:26] <bassembg> what to do?
[02:26] <A-Z-I-Z> when i type "acpi" in command line shell, i get "No support for device type: battery" ... how do i get support for battery ?
[02:26] <dazvid> hda has my windows XP stuff on it
[02:27] <dazvid> hda1 to be more precise
[02:28] <slept> youngcoder, I got that right, you wnat to mount the windows-shares from linux ?
[02:28] <grxmrx> I'm new here, I have just read the manual about ubuntu, just to make sure I have one stupid question, is there a possibility to install ubuntu on the same disk where I have partitions with other operating system (morphos)? I'm don't want to lost access (or lose data) to morphos partitions. I have installed debian ppc,
[02:28] <grxmrx>  is there a possibility to install ubuntu on the same partition where I have debian ppc already?
[02:28] <scumbo> dazvid, OK, so it's installing a new MBR on the disk, with windows on hda1 and the whatever else wherever else.
[02:28] <dazvid> Yup (thats what I want)
[02:28] <youngcoder> slept, yes and it seems that windows doesnt show workgroup as MSHOME
[02:28] <lJlolel> !windowsdrives
[02:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[02:29] <scumbo> dazvid, weird error message though.  XFS is the SGI filesystem IIRC, so why is grub hitting a problem with it?
[02:30] <slept> youngcoder, if you do smbtree you get some \\servername\share just use that info and do mount -t smbfs //servername/share /mountpoint
[02:30] <dazvid> Im using XFS for my linux partitions perhaps?
[02:30] <dazvid> err I mean I am using them.. but perhaps that is the source of error
[02:30] <youngcoder> slept i didnt get any info
[02:30] <scumbo> dazvid, clutching at straws, but what does "fdisk -l /dev/hda" show you as far as partition types go?
[02:30] <slept> youngcoder, from smbtree?
[02:30] <scumbo> dazvid, never mind.  OK, so you're using XFS.
[02:30] <grxmrx> hmm, I mean not 'on' but 'over" debian partition ;)
[02:31] <youngcoder> slept, correct
[02:31] <youngcoder> ill paste it
[02:31] <slept> youngcoder, then there is no server running , try to restart the server
[02:31] <dazvid> scumbo, yup. Is there anyway to terminate what the console is doing?
[02:32] <youngcoder> slept, how is that done ?
[02:32] <slept> youngcoder, I don't know I never used windows with networking , there might be a button or sth like that
[02:33] <scumbo> dazvid, probably a few.  ^C will send a sigint.  ^Z might put it in the background for you.   I cant open another shell.
[02:34] <slept> youngcoder, smbtree searches all workgroups available on the net , therefor I'm quite sure you don't have a server running
[02:34] <dazvid> ^Z worked *phew*
[02:34] <youngcoder> slept, i just wish i knew how to fix it
[02:35] <scumbo> dazvid, you might have been able to try a different console <ctrl><alt><right>.  Anyway, ^Z has left the process in a stopped state, so try "ps -lf" in that console and see if there's anything interesting about the hung process.
[02:36] <dazvid> Dont really understand all this..:
[02:36] <hawking> who has removed w32codecs from the repositories and why??
[02:36] <dazvid> "F S UID        PID  PPID  C PRI  NI ADDR SZ WCHAN  STIME TTY          TIME CMD
[02:36] <dazvid> 0 S dazvid    8127  8125  0  75   0 -  1037 wait   22:10 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[02:36] <dazvid> 0 R dazvid    8416  8127  0  77   0 -   959 -      22:36 pts/0    00:00:00 ps -l"
[02:38] <scumbo> dazvid, nothing useful there.  Wonder where the process has gone.  You could try "ps -efl | fgrep grub"  we're looking for your grub install line.
[02:38] <slept> youngcoder, I just had to set up the server side  and only used it with linux clients :( , but if you don't want to have password things you can have a look at nfs, its very easy to use
[02:38] <dazvid> ok
[02:38] <dazvid> I might send it in a private msg..
[02:39] <youngcoder> slept where should i look?
[02:39] <youngcoder> !nfs
[02:39] <dazvid> 1 D root      8399  8275  0  76   0 -   957 xfs_tr 22:18 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/sh /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[02:39] <dazvid> 0 R dazvid    8420  8127  0  77   0 -   759 -      22:38 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -F grub
[02:39] <dazvid> m
[02:39] <dazvid> not kool
[02:40] <codenut> stats /p
[02:40] <Smegzor> I'm confused.  I did everything correctly according to the howto to recover my grub boot loader.  I can even see the original loader files part way through the howto. Yet after completing this and rebooting, no boot loader :(  any ideas how to get it back?  Its not lost yet.
[02:41] <codenut> How exactly do I become root in a terminal session?
[02:41] <Smegzor> sudo -i
[02:41] <codenut> Smegzor: I will look at that
[02:41] <surfdue> hey can someone tell me how I can fix my sound driver, so that X-Lite will reconize them
[02:41] <scumbo> davidz, nothing spectacular there; don't know what xfs_tr means.  Sounds suspicious.  Might be something to Google for.
[02:42] <dazvid> codenut, you can just open a root terminal through the "Applications > system tools"
[02:42] <slept> youngcoder, the linuxpart is easy just install nfs-user-server edit /etc/exports, add aline with /sharedir and permissions
[02:42] <dazvid> Right scumbo
[02:42] <dazvid> I just need to install grub so I can access windows -_-
[02:42] <dazvid> atm i cant dual boot
[02:43] <dazvid> There is a previous installation of GRUB on my system though.. that might be messing it up..
[02:43] <Smegzor> i'm part way through following the howto a 2nd time.  last time I let it recover grub automatically.
[02:44] <Smegzor> why isn't midnight commander included in the live cd?
[02:44] <scumbo> davidz, unfortunately I've only used grub a few times myself.  I've used lilo for years and haven't seen much need to change.  Between that and the fact I use ext3 not xfs, I'm not sure I can help all that much.
[02:45] <dazvid> Does lilo work with xp?
[02:45] <dazvid> atm I have that installed, and it doesnt offer the option of booting my other HDD
[02:45] <Xappe> how do I prevent update-manager to load when starting up gnome?
[02:45] <scumbo> dazvid, sure.
[02:46] <dazvid> How do I set it up to offer the dual boot?
[02:46] <ompaul> dazvid, unfortunately yes, the unfortunate part is XP now if you had said does it work with brand X linux or BSD I would be happy :)
[02:47] <dazvid> ompaul, I dont understand what you mean with that sentence.. :S
[02:47] <scumbo> dazvid, you just need to add an appropriate entry.  If you have an /etc/lilo.conf which single boots linux, add two lines for windows:
[02:48] <scumbo> other=/dev/hda1
[02:48] <scumbo>   label="WinNT(hda1)"
[02:48] <dazvid> righto, will try that
[02:48] <scumbo> dazvid, Oh, and *very* important.  Run "/sbin/lilo" after that.
[02:48] <dazvid> when my console unfreezes...
[02:48] <dazvid> ok
[02:48] <dazvid> Seriously I think i broke my console =[
[02:48] <tommi^> Hi. My friend has made a user account to his win xp computer. Now I'm trying to access my home directory with samba. With nautilus, I'm trying to access smb://myusername@friendsIP/ -address but without results. What should I define after last slash? What else could be the problem?
[02:49] <ompaul> dazvid, maybe  you have seen this version of it: XP is the problem, now what was the question :-)
[02:49] <ompaul> dazvid, why not use Grub?
[02:49] <surfdue> how do we switch from hoary to beta breezy
[02:50] <dazvid> because when installing grub, it outputs an error, and then locks up the terminal
[02:50] <ompaul> !upgrade
[02:50] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:50] <scumbo> this is not to say that lilo isn't going to do the same thing.
[02:51] <ompaul> surfdue, if you can't modify that script then you should not consider to move to breezy
[02:52] <surfdue> oh u mean tats not right?
[02:52] <surfdue> ...
[02:52] <surfdue> thanks.
[02:52] <ompaul> surfdue, well that won't do any damage if you are using hoary
[02:53] <surfdue> i know to change the hoary to testing in sources.list
[02:53] <surfdue> right?
[02:53] <surfdue> stable to testing
[02:53] <surfdue> i mean
[02:53] <surfdue> :)
[02:53] <ompaul> surfdue, that gets you from warty to hoary - you want to change hoary to breezy testing is debian :)
[02:53] <ompaul> doh
[02:54] <ompaul> there is nothing there
[02:54] <ompaul> I am going to play computer games for an hour
[02:54] <surfdue> on 1 sec
[02:54] <surfdue> sudo sed -e 'breezy' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:54] <surfdue> is this right?
[02:56] <HappyFool> surfdue: how about using 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and change hoary to breezy that way?
[02:56] <surfdue> k
[02:56] <HappyFool> i think the re is probably s/hoary/breezy/, but i'm not a sed user
[02:56] <surfdue> ok im use to debian with testing and stable
[02:56] <surfdue> not the actuall names
[02:57] <ompaul> surfdue, ahh okay
[02:57] <surfdue> sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:57] <surfdue> this is right ?
[02:57] <scumbo> surfdue, why use three sudos when one would do?
[02:58] <surfdue> ubotu gave me this command
[02:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, surfdue
[02:58] <surfdue> thats why
[02:58] <ompaul> surfdue, that reads a lot better - but testing in debian is not = breezy it is sid and that breaks a lot, just so you know what you are getting into
[02:58] <surfdue> :)
[02:58] <ompaul> !ubotu
[02:58] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:58] <surfdue> nvm then
[02:59] <surfdue> i just love ubuntu
[02:59] <surfdue> but the sound never works
[02:59] <surfdue> on some of my apps.
[02:59] <HappyFool> surfdue: what topic was that under?
[02:59] <surfdue> and its annoying
[02:59] <surfdue> X-Lite sip phone dosnt work ever on ubuntu
[02:59] <surfdue> i mean the sound dosnt
[03:00] <lsuactiafner> is breezy out?
[03:00] <ompaul> !breezy
[03:00] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[03:00] <Smegzor> ok heres the problem.  my grub has a file menu.lst which contains what I expect it to, but when I goot I only get GRUB>  What do I need to do now to get that menu.lst displayed at boot time?
[03:00] <lsuactiafner> oh
[03:00] <Smegzor> er.. goot is boot :)
[03:00] <HappyFool> Smegzor: did you run grub-install?
[03:01] <Smegzor> yes
[03:01] <HappyFool> hmm
[03:01] <Smegzor> i'll do it again anyway..
[03:01] <HappyFool> what command did you use?
[03:01] <HappyFool> i mean, what command-line parameters?
[03:01] <Smegzor> /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[03:02] <HappyFool> i think you might need the --root option too
[03:02] <HappyFool> but i have not yet successfully helped anyone with this
[03:02] <surfdue> guys all i need is my X-LIte to work if it does ubuntu is perfect
[03:02] <Smegzor> I have 2 partitions on my hdd.. hda1 appears to be ubuntu (it was installed first), hda2 appears to be my new windows install.
[03:02] <surfdue> when it tryies to detect my sound device i can only choose one defualt and it wont accept that
[03:02] <surfdue> how can i fix this error
[03:02] <Smegzor> hmm..  ok
[03:03] <Smegzor> brb
[03:07] <HappyFool> Smegzor: my guess would be to try 'grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda', but i'm not sure if that only applies when you have a separate boot partition
[03:08] <Smegzor> hmm..  --root doesn't appear to be a valid command
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> help
[03:08] <Smegzor> its not listed in the help
[03:08] <HappyFool> --root-directory
[03:08] <spanglesontoast> is there a way of stopping the annoying sound card warnings
[03:09] <binbrain> *whoa* big problems upgrading-dist to breezy
[03:09] <binbrain> my everything is broke
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> well duh
[03:09] <HappyFool> Smegzor: hmm, no, scrap that. I think plain 'grub-install /dev/hda' should work,
[03:09] <binbrain> can anybody lend a hand for assistence
[03:10] <HappyFool> Smegzor: you don't have /boot on a separate partition
[03:10] <HappyFool> right?
[03:10] <Smegzor> hmm..  i don't know
[03:10] <binbrain> anybody have broken dependency problems in breezy right now?
[03:10] <Smegzor> there is a boot folder in hda1
[03:10] <HappyFool> Smegzor: ok, and what's in it?
[03:11] <HappyFool> Smegzor: or rather, is it empty or not?
[03:11] <Smegzor> i got an error just before..  /boot/boot/grub is not an XFS file system...
[03:11] <HappyFool> /boot/boot/grub ?
[03:11] <HappyFool> hmm
[03:11] <HappyFool> are you using XFS at all?
[03:12] <Smegzor> in /boot is my original menu.lst with entries I recognise and a bunch of other files..
[03:12] <HappyFool> menu.lst is in /boot/grub on my system
[03:12] <samu2> something bad happened when i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop
[03:12] <Smegzor> no idea.  what is it?
[03:12] <samu2> it cant install GRUB to the MBR
[03:12] <HappyFool> Smegzor: XFS is a different filesystem -- if you don't know, you probably aren't using it ;)
[03:13] <HappyFool> Smegzor: are you irc'ing from that machine at the moment?
[03:14] <Smegzor> at the end of the grub-install process it lists (hd0) /dev/hda and (hd1) /dev/hdb.  I have a single hd divided into two partitions.
[03:14] <Smegzor> hardly
[03:14] <Smegzor> I have many pc's
[03:14] <Smegzor> I can irc from it though.
[03:15] <stoeptegel> how do i install the k7 kernel? i can't find it in kynaptic
[03:15] <phantombrainm> stoeptegel, search for linux-kernel
[03:15] <Smegzor> i'm going to reboot and see if anything has changed.  then I'll hit google for a bit.  I will stay here also.
[03:16] <ompaul> linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7
[03:16] <phantombrainm> sorry, linux-image not kernel
[03:17] <ompaul> stoeptegel, apt-cache search linux | grep k7 don't forget to install modules as awll
[03:17] <ompaul> stoeptegel, s/awll/well
[03:17] <phantombrainm> :)
[03:17] <phantombrainm> as well
[03:17] <phantombrainm> ;)
[03:17] <Smegzor> :O  it worked that time.  I did nothing differently from the first time
[03:18] <Smegzor> now to see if it will boot into windows
[03:18] <ompaul> phantombrainm, alzo ?
[03:18] <phantombrainm> ompaul, alzo? What does that mean?
[03:18] <ompaul> also, I am having fun, because I mussen :)
[03:18] <stoeptegel> thnx guys :)  i have the choise between linux-image-k7 and linux-k7. Which is the right one.
[03:19] <stoeptegel> ompaul: modules? ehm... which one
[03:19] <Seveas> ompaul, stoeptegel, just installing linux-k7 is the easiest route :)
[03:19] <Seveas> linux-k7 is a metapackage that depends on the most recent k7 kernel + modules
[03:19] <Seveas> so you automagically get upgrades too
[03:20] <ompaul> Seveas, so I go to court this week :) for bad info
[03:21] <stoeptegel> ROFLOL
[03:21] <HappyFool> Smegzor: are you still here? plain 'grub-install /dev/hda' worked?
[03:21] <Seveas> ompaul, rofl ;)
[03:22] <ompaul> Seveas, nice to see automagically has gotten around a bit
[03:22] <Smegzor> hmm..  ok it loads into linux again YAY!  but windows isn't correct in the grub loader.  I can just edit it can't I?
[03:22] <Smegzor> I know where I parked Windows :)
[03:22] <Smegzor> HappyFool yes to both
[03:22] <mjr> yeah, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:23] <ompaul> Seveas, are we going to see another colony?
[03:23] <Seveas> no
[03:23] <Seveas> next is the previw release
[03:23] <ompaul> arrays?
[03:23] <HappyFool> Smegzor: if you know the partition which windows is on, you can probably hack something from the grub command-line
[03:23] <Dr_Fate> where can I find this? Tk::PNG
[03:24] <mjr> Dr_Fate, I don't know, but I'm guessing libtk-img
[03:24] <Smegzor> i'm booting into linux so I can 'see' everything and I'll hack the menu.lst for starters.
[03:24] <HappyFool> Dr_Fate: maybe perl-tk ?
[03:25] <Dr_Fate> thx guys
[03:26] <Dr_Fate>  perl-tk already installed
[03:26] <Dr_Fate> trying to install the latest smtm
[03:26] <chrismy> hey all
[03:27] <Stormx2> Heya
[03:27] <spola> when can we expect an GNU/Hurd ubuntu?
[03:27] <chrismy> :D
[03:27] <Dr_Fate> Tk::PNG 2.005 is what I need
[03:27] <Stormx2> Does anyone have any experience in using multisync?
[03:27] <mjr> spola, probably not very soon... Hurd is not for human beings yet ;I
[03:28] <mjr> though I am kinda impatient myself
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> the repositories don't have the newer files I need
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> I tried the .deb package
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> no go
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> so I'm trying source
[03:28] <Dr_Fate> and this is where it chokes
[03:28] <BollocksMacenzie> Has anyone had toruble with PCMCIA USB 2.0 cards? Would like to know before I buy one.
[03:28] <Smegzor> ok please confirm.  in boot.lst (hd0,0) is my linux install.  currently the windows boot is (hd1,0) I know I installed windows on a 2nd partition of the same drive as (hd0,0) so should (hd1,0) actually read (hd0,1) ???
[03:28] <ompaul> doh wrong place
[03:29] <Seveas> ompaul, *g*
[03:29] <HappyFool> Smegzor: yes
[03:29] <mjr> Smegzor, yep
[03:29] <Smegzor> thanks
[03:29] <spola> i hard they were making steay progress with GNU/Hurd debian
[03:29] <Smegzor> that will be why its not working atm
[03:29] <Smegzor> brb
[03:29] <mjr> spola, it is progressing nicely. Though there's the small matter that the Hurd developers are in the process of porting Hurd onto another microkernel and stuff...
[03:29] <Stormx2> Hey, anyone used Multisync?
[03:30] <spola> yeah i heard they were going to replace the mach for the l4 do you know what the diffrences are?
[03:30] <Dr_Fate> Turns out that it pretty easy to fix things -- loading the Tk::PNG module and then declaring the png format is all it takes
[03:30] <pirast> ubotu?
[03:30] <pirast> where is ubotu?
[03:30] <ompaul> !ubotu
[03:30] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:30] <robotgeek> !botsnack
[03:30] <ubotu> thanks robotgeek :)
[03:31] <pirast> ahhh
[03:31] <pirast> i though he is not here :-)
[03:31] <mjr> spola, I'm not familiar with many of the exact details on the differences, though I heard that eg. drivers can be better moved into user processes with L4
[03:31] <Smegzor> bother!  it still won't boot into windows.  its partition is NTFS.  does that matter?
[03:32] <HappyFool> Smegzor: it shouldn't
[03:32] <pirast> !sound
[03:32] <ubotu> hmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[03:32] <HappyFool> Smegzor: you can put your menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for us to look at it you want
[03:32] <Smegzor> ok
[03:33] <Smegzor> i'll be a min. I have to reboot ^^
[03:33] <pirast> since I upgraded my Breezy sound doesn't work -.-
[03:33] <pirast> martin@mubuntu:~$ aplay -l
[03:33] <pirast> aplay: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[03:33] <pirast> oh sry
[03:33] <pirast> i forgot to use paste.ubuntu...
[03:34] <Une-ga-dihi> power just goes out
[03:34] <Une-ga-dihi> nice
[03:35] <BollocksMacenzie> USB 2.0 PCMCIA cards, work/don't work?
[03:35] <stoeptegel> installed k7, running smooth. I would be lost without you guys _o_
[03:35] <pirast> !Audigy
[03:35] <ubotu> I guess audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[03:35] <ompaul> stoeptegel, no you would be running windows, that is a lot worse than being lost :-)
[03:39] <Smegzor> ok  my menu.lst (minus the comments) is pasted http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1857
[03:39] <ompaul> robotgeek, well a friend of mine has it, and I could not get it to work - now I can :)
[03:39] <robotgeek> ompaul: :)
[03:40] <robotgeek> i need some coffee!
[03:40] <ompaul> robotgeek, then when it works we will have another 100% of the time ubuntu user
[03:40] <ompaul> robotgeek, make me one too please :)
[03:40] <robotgeek> ompaul: i converted my roomate to ubuntu
[03:40] <Smegzor> i should be able to mount and look at my windows partition yes?  I might find its not where I think it is!
[03:41] <HappyFool> Smegzor: you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' to list all the partitions ubuntu can find
[03:41] <tommi^> robotgeek, oh nou! What will his parents say when he's an ubuntu?
[03:41] <robotgeek> ompaul: he was suprised that everything just worked, wireless with ndiswrapper, and even his function keys!
[03:41] <robotgeek> tommi^: better than a window :)
[03:41] <Smegzor> AHA!  it is on hda3
[03:41] <HappyFool> Smegzor: the ubuntu installer thought that windows was on your second hard-drive, according to the paste
[03:42] <tommi^> robotgeek, they could see right through him
[03:42] <Smegzor> ok  well I can see it on hda3 so how would that boot line look?
[03:42] <HappyFool> Smegzor: that will be (hd0,2)
[03:42] <robotgeek> then i made him jealous by showing him network-manager :)
[03:42] <Smegzor> thanks
[03:42] <Stormx2> !multisync
[03:42] <ubotu> Stormx2: Wish i knew
[03:42] <Stormx2> !synce
[03:42] <ubotu> Stormx2: I give up, what is it?
[03:42] <Stormx2> Uhg.
[03:43] <ompaul> my wife uses it, my father in law uses it, my non game playing friends use it, my lug uses it after me ranting and raving about it and I have have had over 300 cds given away - me fanatical no, okay then just a little :)
[03:43] <robotgeek> Stormx2: i wanted to try out multi-sync, but have been too lazy!
[03:43] <robotgeek> ompaul: great! keep the good work going!
[03:43] <ompaul> ohh I also invented the internet my name is al gore :)
[03:44] <Stormx2> robotgeek: I can't get it to work.
[03:44] <robotgeek> ompaul: bush went one step further, he invented the internets!
[03:44] <ompaul> robotgeek, I do, am going to give out shipit next time (assuming they still exist)
[03:44] <ompaul> robotgeek, well the republicans have the money for that sort of thing
[03:44] <robotgeek> Stormx2: i havent tried messing with it
[03:45] <Smegzor> thanks guys :D  I can now boot into my awesome Ubuntu or my sad Windows :)
[03:45] <robotgeek> ompaul: it's just weird, the way things work here. i think enuf off-topic though!
[03:45] <ompaul> aye
[03:46] <robotgeek> ompaul: what did u mean, u are going to give out shipits?
[03:46] <ompaul> robotgeek, the ones we gave out we burnt ourselves
[03:47] <robotgeek> ompaul: okay, the shipits are nice though. live cd + install!
[03:47] <ompaul> robotgeek, I was given one, hehe
[03:47] <robotgeek> i just can't wait, i just download it. univ net!
[03:48] <Une-ga-dihi> loading the Tk::PNG module
[03:48] <Une-ga-dihi> how would I call this module ot edit it?]
[03:49] <CarlFK> super dumb Q: do I need cdrecord, or can I use the DVD tools to  burn a CD?
[03:49] <dabaR> !ask
[03:54] <bobbyd> hi
[03:54] <bobbyd> gaim keeps disconnecting my MSN account, is that a known issue?
[03:55] <Seveas> msn is flaky at times
[03:57] <stoeptegel> bobbyd: what i always do is switching to psi with msn transport for the time being when gaim/kopete doesn't work
[04:03] <Waerner>  Hello, I have a bit of a n00b question. Is there any way to get the external IP of the localhost? I mean, the computer I am using atm
[04:03] <lvraab> ping??
[04:03] <kyncani> Waerner: ifconfig
[04:04] <Waerner> kyncani: Thanks alot =)
[04:04] <kyncani> np :)
[04:05] <lvraab> has anyone had any problems with starting X at startup??
[04:05] <dabaR> no, noone ever.
[04:05] <lvraab> hmm
[04:05] <Waerner> damn mysql...
[04:05] <lvraab> I installed 5.04 and when I rebooted I got an error message about how the X server couldn't be started
[04:06] <fivetwentysix> How long did php take for you guys to learn
[04:06] <ompaul> lvraab, video card?
[04:06] <fivetwentysix> i just got a book and started learning it, books pretty deep
[04:06] <lvraab> ompaul: yep
[04:06] <ompaul> lvraab, what type?
[04:06] <dabaR> which one, dude.
[04:06] <lvraab> nVidia FX5200
[04:06] <ompaul> !nvidia
[04:06] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:06] <ompaul> lvraab, have a look at that
[04:07] <ubuntuguy> anyone: I'm using Colony3, I used update manager an hour ago and now sshd won't let me log in. Any ideas?
[04:08] <lvraab> ubotu, ompaul: thanks
[04:08] <ubotu> lvraab: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:08] <ompaul> !ubotu
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[04:09] <Waerner> ifconfig gives me the status of three devices,   eth0, lo and sit0, I guess I should look under eth0? But it only gives me a IPv6 adress or something
[04:10] <dabaR> Waerner: lo is nothing important to your issue. eth0 is the ethernet card, tell us what the sit is.
[04:12] <dabaR> or, tell us whether it has an ipv4 address, at least.
[04:12] <Waerner> the only IP "looking" adress I can see under sit0 is 83.***.**.3/96
[04:12] <Waerner> And I can't ping it either
[04:13] <lvraab> ompaul: if i can't start X, how am I supposed to start Synaptic??
[04:13] <Waerner> apt-get...?
[04:13] <lvraab> ompaul: I can only get a command-line
[04:13] <dabaR> thats your IP, Waerner .
[04:13] <dabaR> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9611.1/0330.html
[04:13] <Waerner> dabaR: Yes, But I don't get any replies on my pings
[04:14] <dabaR> there is obviously some kind of firewalling involved, see th /96...thats likely a port number.
[04:14] <Waerner> okay?
[04:15] <Waerner> I don't understand that much of the link you posted...?
[04:15] <dabaR> read that URL?
[04:15] <Waerner> yep
[04:16] <Waerner> But I didn't really understand what it was saying
[04:16] <ompaul> lcrarb that link I pointed you to, if you can't do synaptic then do apt-get install
[04:16] <lvraab> ompaul: alright
[04:17] <dabaR> ya, I understood that from your previous post. Well, basically, your eth0 is configured for ipv6, and then the sit0 is used to encapsulate ipv6 in ipv4 datagrams. meaning that there is some kind of translation there. Do you use a router at all? and if not, tell us about the set up of your home network.
[04:18] <Waerner> The set up:    ISP --> Modem --> Switch --> This one (Win XP) and the Ubuntu machine
[04:18] <dabaR> 2 IPs from the ISP, I suppose.
[04:18] <Waerner> yup
[04:18] <dabaR> can ubuntu get online?
[04:19] <CarlFK> dabaR - huh?
[04:19] <VoX> i'm trying to run an opengl game, but it's complaining it cant find any ogl drivers. any particular package i have to install?
[04:19] <CarlFK> dabaR - ah.  hm
[04:20] <dabaR> CarlFK: misunderstood something? need clarification?
[04:20] <Waerner> Yep, I rebooted it, and now it can, it even replies on my pings after the reboot
[04:20] <dabaR> oki, well, solved? know the IP?
[04:20] <Waerner> yeah
[04:20] <kyncani> VoX: if the game has been packaged for ubuntu, you should use the package
[04:21] <VoX> kyncani: it hasnt
[04:21] <CarlFK> dabaR - "can ubuntu get online?" - but then i figured out what you were doing
[04:21] <Waerner> But why did it all of a sudden switch to ipv6?
[04:21] <dabaR> Waerner: no idea. another way to get your external IP is whatsmyip.com or so.
[04:21] <pirast> !wlan
[04:21] <ubotu> pirast: Are you on ritalin?
[04:22] <Waerner> dabaR: Yeah, but I don't have any browsers of X-server installed :)
[04:22] <VoX> and also, why is there no vlc package? even debian has vlc
[04:23] <kyncani> VoX: well, to my knowing, there is no easy way to know which library to install if you're not a developper. (don't know about auto-apt)
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[05:10] (joee/#ubuntu) and gnome and kde are plenty to much
[05:10] (ompaul/#ubuntu) houman_zhu, run this for yourself 'apt-cache show cpufreqd' it will tell you more about it
[05:10] (ompaul/#ubuntu) joee have a look at fluxbox
[05:11] (letschatt/#ubuntu) h17m4n, 's about time someone made this tool :) i am recompiling my stock kernel that came with ubuntu this weekend. it doesn't obey acpi commands (doesn't suspend, windows does)
[05:11] (h17m4n/#ubuntu) letschatt: make sure that you understand that any program that is not used by and/or is not on the keeper's list will be removed
[05:11] (h17m4n/#ubuntu) cool
[05:11] (houman_zhu/#ubuntu) ompaul: thanks
[05:12] <h17m4n> I will use that same guide later.... to remove kde
[05:12] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:12] <dabaR> maiku-: have you looked at the ubuntu.com web site under downloads?
[05:12] <v1ru5> how to edit kernel parameters?
[05:12] <letschatt> h17m4n, yeah everything requires a ton of documentation the first thing it asked me to remove was gnome-terminal
[05:12] <h17m4n> personally I liked kde's look better
[05:13] <v1ru5> i need help fast, should burn a CD
[05:13] <HappyFool> VoX: no, breezy is the next release of ubuntu (due in October)
[05:13] <v1ru5> how do i add SCSI support to ubuntu's kernel?
[05:13] <maiku-> dabaR the tought had crossed my mind a few times
[05:13] <letschatt> so there's no effective way to remove gnome eh.. that's fine
[05:13] <mjr> v1ru5, do you have an actualy SCSI burner? 'cause you don't do that SCSI thing with ATA burners anymore
[05:13] <dabaR> maiku-: the sun is warm.
[05:13] <mjr> v1ru5, anyway, the base kernel should have scsi support
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: no i have a IDE interfaced cd burner
[05:14] <v1ru5> but xcdroast bitches that i don't
[05:14] <v1ru5> so i suppose i don't have it
[05:14] <maiku-> then I thoguht after trying to use the torrent provided and seeing that there wasn't anything to diretly that I'd ask here
[05:14] <mjr> v1ru5, maybe xcdroast is outdated; have you tried straight-up nautilus-cd-burner
[05:14] <v1ru5> and the default burner prog isn't able to burn cd's either
[05:14] <h17m4n> you could always just remove all g related apps from synaptic(or the package manager from desktop)
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: yah well it complains the cd isn't 700mb
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: while it actually is
[05:14] <v1ru5> mjr: how to fix this annoying prob? any ideas?
[05:14] <mjr> hmh
[05:15] <mjr> *shrug*
[05:15] <v1ru5> :/
[05:15] <mjr> try cdparanoia from the command line
[05:15] <v1ru5> anyhow, i could try enabling the kernel SCSI support
[05:15] <mjr> don't
[05:15] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA.   On my last system, running Hoary, my multimedia keys mapped to XF86AudioPlay, etc.. Then I could hop into gconf editor and set up metacity to listen for those keysyms...  Now, though, the keys aren't mapped to any symbol
[05:21] <skaja>  ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386 depends on kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386; however:
[05:21] <skaja>   Package kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 is not installed.
[05:21] <skaja> dpkg: error processing ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386 (--install):
[05:21] <skaja>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:21] <skaja> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:21] <skaja>  ltmodem-2.6.8-2-386
[05:22] <HappyFool> skaja: please don't paste command output here
[05:22] <selinium> skaja: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or you will get booted not help! :)
[05:23] <sockpuppe1> any one know a good spot for blackbox skins
[05:23] <sockpuppe1> ?
[05:23] <selinium> skaja: by the looks of it you are using a different kernel
[05:24] <letschatt> h17m4n, buddy i keep getting this error debfoster is unable to acquire a lock on the keeper file another debfoster process probably has it
[05:24] <HappyFool> sockpuppe1: try #blackbox, or google
[05:24] <v1ru5> mjr: thx for the help, gnomebaker does the job :))
[05:25] <sockpuppe1> HappyFool why is it that your dialog is red?
[05:25] <HappyFool> sockpuppe1: because i included your nick in the message
[05:25] <mjr> v1ru5, well good then
[05:25] <joee> HappyFool: trying to start fluxbox I get: Make sure you started X before you start fluxbox
[05:25] <sockpuppe1> lol
[05:25] <HappyFool> joee: so, is X started? (I don't used fluxbox)
[05:25] <selinium> Hi all, is it possible to have a local folder with debs in and put it in the sources.list file as a repo?
[05:26] <HappyFool> joee: if i were you i would use GDM to login, and select fluxbox as the 'login session' (or whatever it's called)
[05:26] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:26] <ompaul> joee, have you still got gnome on the machine?
[05:26] <HappyFool> joee: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[05:26] <ompaul> joee, what HappyFool said
[05:26] <joee> ompaul no
[05:27] <joee> command not found :/
[05:27] <wouterlabeeuw> joe: or you can try by exec. xinit and than typing fluxbox in the shell to start fluxbox
[05:28] <ompaul> joee, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:28] <HappyFool> joee: you'll have to do what wouterlabeeuw suggests. there is a way to get xinit (or startx?) to use fluxbox as the first command, but i've forgotten what it is
[05:28] <skaja> what kernel verson does ubuntu use
[05:28] <HappyFool> 2.6.10 in hoary
[05:29] <catch_> Hi, for the last month or so I have been unable to do any kind of install or update with apt-get. My system just reboots without any warning when I try, can anyone help please
[05:29] <v1ru5> how to see CPU use??
[05:29] <v1ru5> what command
[05:29] <catch_> v1ru5 : top
[05:30] <catch_> Hi, for the last month or so I have been unable to do any kind of install or update with apt-get. My system just reboots without any warning when I try, can anyone help please
[05:30] <ompaul> catch_, please paste the repos have you got installed and we saw it first time
[05:30] <Tzi> Woah.. That's impressive
[05:30] <ompaul> catch into a pastebin
[05:30] <selinium> v1ru5:  or you can use Applications/System Tools/System Monitor
[05:30] <ompaul> !pastebin
[05:30] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:30] <catch_> ompaul : sorry though I wrote it in a different chan
[05:31] <dabaR> catch_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl in other words.
[05:31] <selinium> Is it possible to set up a local repo?
[05:31] <h17m4n> whats the use of BitRock Install Builder?
[05:32] <wouterlabeeuw> joee, try xwmconfig and select fluxbox, then just type startx
[05:32] <ompaul> selinium,  anything is possible, what would you want to do that for?
[05:32] <catch_> dabaR, ompaul : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1862
[05:32] <Tzi> Ahh.. found my problem.. Incidentally if anyone else has a similar problem, and can't seem to get multimedia keys working.. Install xmodmap =)
[05:33] <dabaR> catch_: how about sudo aptitude update, or apt-get update, does that reboot it?
[05:33] <bored2k> is there a real difference between using xine-ui and totem-xine ?
[05:33] <selinium> ompaul: I am compiling some debs, I want to put them somewhere they can be found easily and also can be used by synaptic to install un-install, that kind of thing!
[05:33] <catch_> dabaR : I haven't tried, it normally reboots part way through installing dbus
[05:33] <dabaR> Tzi: Ill keep that in mind.
[05:33] <catch_> or updating i should say
[05:33] <joee> ompaul: xserver is installed
[05:33] <ompaul> selinium, well seems logical enough:)
[05:33] <dabaR> I have no idea.
[05:34] <selinium> ompaul: would you know how to though?
[05:34] <ompaul> selinium, I don't know the specifics but I can say that the best howto I ever saw on apt was on an ibm apt faq
[05:35] <dabaR> selinium: look at a sources.list file, and the corresponding URl, and set up something like that on your computer.
[05:35] <DavidChipman> Hi all!
[05:35] <selinium> ompaul: Cheers
[05:35] <ompaul> joee is gnome/kde running?
[05:35] <selinium> dabaR: something like file:// ? or set up a directory on my webserver?
[05:35] <joee> ompaul no nothing I installed server-version of ubunut
[05:35] <dabaR> selinium: yes. to both.
[05:35] <DavidChipman> Does anybody know when I should set my root password?
[05:36] <HiddenWolf> DavidChipman, don't use root
[05:36] <joee> DavidChipman during installation
[05:36] <selinium> DavidChipman: You dont. use sudo
[05:36] <dabaR> !rootsudo
[05:36] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:36] <DavidChipman> But how do I access my CD burner?
[05:36] <catch_> DavidChipman : you don't it's randomly generated, the first user created has sudo privilages, use that
[05:36] <HiddenWolf> joee, ubuntu doesn't use root.
[05:36] <Diffindo> I'm looking for an open source util that will read/write to UDF formatted CD-RWs in Ubuntu
[05:37] <joee> HiddenWolf yeah but the password you specify during installtion is your sudo passw
[05:37] <mjr> DavidChipman, via a burning program, such as nautilus-cd-burner
[05:37] <ompaul> joee the easy way to do this is 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' then install fluxbox then when the machine boots choose fluxbox
[05:37] <DavidChipman> so, when sudo asks for a passwor, what do I enter?
[05:37] <selinium> DavidChipman: Your password
[05:37] <dabaR> ompaul: :) that is just wrong.
[05:37] <DavidChipman> Really!?
[05:37] <DavidChipman> I ry it
[05:37] <dabaR> to install the whole ubuntu-desktop, to get use of flubox:)
[05:37] <catch_> ompaul : do you have any idea why my box just dies part way through any apt-get ?
[05:38] <selinium> DavidChipman: You would use sudo <command> then it will ask for your password
[05:38] <DavidChipman> Got it now..
[05:38] <ompaul> catch_, not after seeing that and you say you have dbus issues
[05:38] <selinium> DavidChipman: Cool
[05:38] <Tzi> DavidChipman: You wouldn't happen to be an Australian, would you?
[05:38] <joee> ompaul okay gonna go for that
[05:38] <joee> thanks
[05:38] <DavidChipman> No, Canuck..
[05:38] <catch_> ompaul : other than a reinstall any sugestions?
[05:38] <Tzi> Okay =) Just checking
[05:38] <Tzi> Would be a very small world
[05:39] <DavidChipman> What? You know an Aussie with the attitude of a rhino-with-toothache? :)
[05:39] <ompaul> dabaR, space is not the restriction, the guy was struggling to get the box up off the ground, I think it was the path of least resistance
[05:39] <UbuntuN00b> How do I get to the Mixer?
[05:39] <UbuntuN00b> Is it "alseramix" in the terminal?
[05:40] <skaja> ubuntu kerenl verson 2.6.10 right
[05:40] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Tried double-clicking on the volume control in the panel?
[05:40] <ompaul> catch_, well if you did apt-get install foo | tee > LogMe maybe it might help you find the last thing that happens before the machine goes down also check syslog enteries
[05:41] <catch_> ompaul ta will try it now
[05:41] <UbuntuN00b> SO yeah. I also have a RAM Problem.
[05:41] <fivetwentysix> Anyone know if there's any program I can use newsgroups on? Like I could on Outlook Express on Windows?
[05:41] <UbuntuN00b> The system's running at almost 100 percent, and all I have open is Gaim and IRC.
[05:42] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: May be a runaway process.. See if there's anything sus in the system monitor
[05:42] <lakcaj> UbuntuN00b, what does top say?  You might have a runaway process
[05:42] <Tzi> Snap
[05:43] <fivetwentysix> Would USB sound work on Ubuntu ???
[05:43] <Tzi> I like my version better.. Less terminal reliance :P
[05:43] <Tzi> Hehe
[05:43] <mjr> fivetwentysix, it should
[05:43] <UbuntuN00b> 84% of Memory in use. 32% of which is cached.
[05:43] <zblach> hi. network printing to windows machines?
[05:43] <mjr> fivetwentysix, the next version improves hotplug sound handling, though
[05:43] <ompaul> fivetwentysix, there are several, personally I would use thunderbird http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq <-- will tell you how to if you need that level of help
[05:43] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, how much ram have you got?
[05:44] <lakcaj> UbuntuN00b, you are looking for a single process that it using a high % of your CPU resources.
[05:44] <UbuntuN00b> I think it's either 128 or 256
[05:44] <UbuntuN00b> It's an old compaq that i'm jst using to get used to linux
[05:45] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, use the command 'free'
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> In terminal, right?
[05:45] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b,  yes, if it says total  256812 then you have 256 :)
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b>      total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> Mem:        127024     125156       1868          0       1032      40744
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> -/+ buffers/cache:      83380      43644
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> Swap:       369452      44912     324540
[05:45] <UbuntuN00b> :(
[05:46] <Tzi> (Be careful with pasting here, by the way)
[05:46] <UbuntuN00b> SOrry. :)
[05:46] <UbuntuN00b> Just wanted to show.
[05:46] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, okay, you have 128, and second do not paste output in here :) it will get you kicked use a pastebin like http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:46] <Tzi> Open system monitor, and click on the column header marked '% CPU'..
[05:46] <v1ru5> is there a command to force CDrom drive to eject??
[05:47] <v1ru5> the motherfucker stays closed
[05:47] <v1ru5> :/
[05:47] <Tzi> Sort in descending order.. If there's a process at the top using a large amount of cpu, that's a problem
[05:47] <Tzi> v1ru5: I know exactly what you mean =) sudo eject -f
[05:47] <UbuntuN00b> But, if it's a ram problem...then what
[05:47] <ompaul> v1ru5, language and the command is 'sudo eject /media/disk'
[05:47] <Tzi> Then you need more ram =)
[05:47] <UbuntuN00b> Poop. lol
[05:48] <zblach> v1ru5, right-click on the icon on desktop and 'eject'
[05:48] <Musko> Hi. I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:48] <UbuntuN00b> WHy doesn't it slow down when I'm running windows?
[05:48] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, u useing win 98 or some such?
[05:48] <Bwl> A
[05:48] <UbuntuN00b> XP.
[05:48] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Out of curiosity...  'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda'
[05:49] <UbuntuN00b> What do you want me to copy and paste?
[05:50] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, pastebin
[05:50] <Tzi> Chuck it into the pastebin if you like..
[05:50] <Tzi> !pastebin
[05:50] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:50] <UbuntuN00b> K, it's there.
[05:50] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, and while your pasting cat /proc/cpuinfo across into pastebin
[05:51] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, >> cat /proc/cpuinfo <<
[05:51] <UbuntuN00b> Where do I put that?
[05:51] <UbuntuN00b> lol
[05:51] <ompaul> terminal and pastebin
[05:51] <qt2> can someone recoomend some good dvd authoring software for linux?
[05:51] <zblach> can hoary auto-detect network printers?
[05:52] <Tzi> Woaaahhhhhhh
[05:52] <Tzi> Damn
[05:52] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: You have a driver problem
[05:52] <Tzi> 143 Mb/s cached reads, 15 Mb/s disk reads... ouch =)
[05:52] <Musko> Ok, that it! I'm going back to Win3.1
[05:52] <UbuntuN00b> Posted that one you wanted me to
[05:52] <Tzi> Win 3.1? Pah... Dos 6.2, baby
[05:53] <UbuntuN00b> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:53] <Musko> I have a problem with my Asus M2400 laptop. When I boot the system, it beeps several times after starting (trying to start that is) ALSA. I get the error message: Invalid Card Number.
[05:53] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, put that in a pastebin
[05:53] <Tzi> It is..
[05:53] <UbuntuN00b> YEah, it's there.
[05:53] <Tzi> So.. Presumably your drive isn't that slow.. is DMA on?
[05:53] <Tzi> hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:54] <Tzi> (that's just a one-liner.. You can put that here)
[05:54] <UbuntuN00b> jerry@geleff:~$ hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:54] <UbuntuN00b> /dev/hda: Permission denied
[05:54] <Tzi> sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda
[05:55] <UbuntuN00b>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:55] <Tzi> Okay.. So perhaps the chipset driver isn't loaded
[05:55] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, if you handed a command that does not work and gives permission denied usually it is a matter of putting 'sudo' in front of the command :) this allows you have super user powers on the machine :)
[05:56] <UbuntuN00b> oh alright. :)
[05:56] <UbuntuN00b> coo.
[05:56] <Tzi> Hehe.. super user.. Just remember to put your cape on
[05:56] <zblach> i'm having trouble setting up network printers. has anyone gotten them to work?
[05:56] <Tzi> So.. can anyone suggest a module to load to make that cache read faster?
[05:56] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Try googling/searching on ubuntuforums.org for your machine
[05:57] <selinium> ompaul: It looks like I can sort a local repos, but it is looking for a Packages.gz? Would you know what it is supposed to contain?
[05:57] <zblach> *sigh* network printing. not easy in ubuntu?
[05:57] <ompaul> selinium, I will ask around - hang on a sec
[05:57] <selinium> ompaul: cheers
[05:57] <fivetwentysix> OK, I can't get my usb sound to work, seems like I need drivers for it, it's the Steel 5H USB edition C-media drivers I need. I can't seem to find it anywhere.
[05:58] <h17m4n> does anyone know if I could just install fglrx from synaptic?
[05:58] <h17m4n> or how to check what driver is installed for the video card
[05:58] <thrush_2> h17m4n, seems to be there..
[05:58] <reiki> zblach: my very first ubuntu setup
[05:58] <LathropWells> maybe ubotu knows about fglrx
[05:59] <zblach> reiki, how'd you do it?
[05:59] <reiki> I printed to an Epson shared on another machine
[05:59] <ompaul> selinium, take a pm?
[05:59] <LathropWells> !fglrx
[05:59] <ubotu> hmm... fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <selinium> ompaul: sure
[05:59] <ompaul> selinium, its long :)
[05:59] <UbuntuN00b> SOrry, I was on the phone.
[05:59] <selinium> lol
[05:59] <UbuntuN00b> What do I search for now?
[05:59] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: What's your machine?
[05:59] <reiki> zblach: going from memory here... (and I'm 52 so....)  I seem to recall having to set up an lpr printer and enter the IP and preinter sharename
[05:59] <UbuntuN00b> Compaq something or other.
[06:00] <Tzi> I'd be looking to see if anyone else has had similar probs with the same hardware
[06:00] <FlangeR> Can someone pls help me with setting up my usb palm? I've followed ubuntuguide and usb howto's, added rules in /etc/udev/rules, and still nothing seems to work. Help pls?
[06:00] <zblach> reiki, thats somewhat complicated. nothing with samba?
[06:00] <UbuntuN00b> Hum, i'm trying to find the model
[06:01] <UbuntuN00b> Presario
[06:01] <Tzi> In particular, look for cache speed
[06:02] <Tzi> Cos 145mb/s is really slow.. You should be getting in the order of 600mb/s, really
[06:02] <UbuntuN00b> WHere do I get that?
[06:02] <Tzi> In reads from your hard disk
[06:03] <UbuntuN00b> So, I need to look at my hard drive?
[06:03] <Tzi> It's more likely to be your chipset..
[06:03] <Tzi> But it'll certainly be a factor in your system being slow
[06:04] <lakcaj> UbuntuN00b, what does lspci say?  Does it give details on the PCI or Host Bridge?
[06:04] <FlangeR> If nobody can help me, does anybody know where I could get more help?
[06:04] <Tzi> Is it just me, or does evolution really, really suck?
[06:04] <UbuntuN00b> lspci?
[06:04] <h17m4n> would it be safe to delete the ndiswrapper folders that I used to set it up from my home folder? it has a lock on it
[06:04] <lsuactiafner> whats the program that keeps redoing my menu's after i use apt?
[06:04] <Tzi> FlangeR: I'd be seeing if you can get device ids from the usb system.. And googling for them
[06:05] <Tzi> FlangeR: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices, then look for your device, and find the vendor/product ids just above it (on the line that starts 'P:')
[06:05] <FlangeR> Tzi, from var/log/messages right?
[06:07] <skaja> what is that pase it site
[06:07] <Tzi> !pastebin
[06:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:07] <LathropWells> !flood
[06:07] <ubotu> [flood]  for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[06:07] <Bwl> Tzi: Heh, you understood what he said. :P
[06:07] <brenner> lsuactiafner: usually done by gnome-panel restarting
[06:08] <Tzi> Bwl: I'll have you know I detect 5 bit errors, and correct 2 :P
[06:08] <UbuntuN00b> :( Am I doomed?
[06:08] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Someone probably will've got that hardware working..
[06:09] <Tzi> Just type 'lspci' and look for 'pci bridge' stuff
[06:09] <UbuntuN00b> Can you find anything on it?
[06:09] <UbuntuN00b> Where do I type that?
[06:09] <brenner> apps > sys tools > terminal
[06:09] <skaja> can some one help with this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1861
[06:09] <Tzi> On the refrigerator.. :P
[06:10] <Tzi> Is it just me, or does Evolution completely suck?
[06:10] <Tzi> I really, really wanna use it...
[06:10] <UbuntuN00b> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:10] <Tzi> But it self-destructs all the bloody time=)
[06:10] <Tzi> skaja: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386
[06:10] <UbuntuN00b> Ok, I pasted.
[06:10] <skaja> i cant get online
[06:11] <brenner> skaja: er, i think that package is broken
[06:11] <brenner> Tzi: breezy?
[06:11] <skaja> grr when where do i get lt modems
[06:11] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: sudo modprobe via82cxxx
[06:12] <skaja> !tell skaja about ltmodems
[06:12] <UbuntuN00b> It asked for a password, and nothing happened.
[06:12] <Tzi> brenner: You can't find any? That's weird..
[06:12] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: Cool.. You should be right now.. Just test again - sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[06:12] <brenner> Tzi: can you? :-/
[06:13] <brenner> closest i get is kernel-image-netbootable
[06:13] <Tzi> Oh =) linux-image
[06:13] <UbuntuN00b>  Timing cached reads:   288 MB in  2.01 seconds = 143.09 MB/sec
[06:13] <UbuntuN00b>  Timing buffered disk reads:   34 MB in  3.01 seconds =  11.30 MB/sec
[06:13] <Tzi> Oh, blah
[06:13] <FlangeR> Tzi, thanks for your last advice, but what when I can't find my device listed in proc/usb/devices?
[06:13] <brenner> skaja: where'd you get the deb file?
[06:13] <UbuntuN00b> Poopie.
[06:14] <LathropWells> UbuntuNOOB - am seeing the same numbers here. - seems okay no?
[06:14] <Tzi> FlangeR: Oh, joy =) Okay, so it doesn't even register the device name, that means it either is entirely unsupported, or it is supported but not known.  I'd go through the devices, discount the ones you know aren't your device, and search for the ones that might be
[06:14] <brenner> skaja: an apt-cache search on 'ltmodem' returns some linux-restricted-modules packages....maybe get one of those
[06:14] <Tzi> FlangeR: Just do a google search for the vendor/product ids
[06:14] <skaja> www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem
[06:14] <UbuntuN00b> LathropWells: It's slow. :-p
[06:14] <skaja> www.close.u-net.com/ltmodem.html
[06:15] <flodine> anyone running breezy?
[06:15] <LathropWells> It is fast enough for Unreal Tournament.
[06:15] <Tzi> LathropWells: 143mb/s cached?  Sounds nasty to me
[06:15] <FlangeR> ok, thanks
[06:15] <Tzi> flodine: Yep =)
[06:15] <brenner> skaja: you used the debian package right?
[06:15] <skaja> yep
[06:15] <brenner> skaja: probably configged for debian then
[06:15] <brenner> skaja: get the source, and then use checkinstall to install
[06:16] <brenner> to make things easy
[06:16] <flodine> every time i run breezy the bootloader doesnt work why?
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> neh not gnome panel restarting that makes blackbox get new menus, don't have gdm running @ all or gnome
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> some program keeps redoing my custum blackbox menu when i do apt-get upgrade
[06:16] <lsuactiafner> and its very annoying
[06:16] <skaja> i even used http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/ubuntu-ltmodem-2.6.10-5-386_8.31a13_i386.deb
[06:16] <Tzi> flodine: Whatcha mean doesn't work
[06:17] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: ANy other ideas? :(
[06:17] <flodine> well breezy just dont boot
[06:17] <flodine> get a black scrren
[06:17] <ompaul> !breezy
[06:17] <ubotu> well, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:17] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: So you mentioned your CPU hovers around 100%.. Have you determined what process is causing it?
[06:17] <UbuntuN00b> No.
[06:18] <UbuntuN00b> CPU Runs around 15.
[06:18] <Tzi> flodine: Hmm.. How far does it get?
[06:18] <UbuntuN00b> MY Ram is running high
[06:18] <Tzi> Ah..
[06:18] <youngcoder> HappyFool, ?
[06:18] <IceDC571> does the sound blaster x-fi work on ubuntu?
[06:18] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you called?
[06:18] <Tzi> My ram runs high too, and I have 512 mb.. Linux tends to.. expand a bit, to fill the space available, which isn't necessarily a bad thing
[06:18] <youngcoder> heya bud
[06:18] <Tzi> Is it particulary slow?
[06:18] <HappyFool> that beep-on-nick thing has it's uses ;)
[06:18] <brenner> ubotu: tell IceDC571 about hardware
[06:18] <youngcoder> im compiling the 2.6.13 kernel and figured i would stop by and check to see how you are doing
[06:19] <HappyFool> eek
[06:19] <HappyFool> do you need the new kernel?
[06:19] <youngcoder> no
[06:19] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: It's alot slow.
[06:19] <youngcoder> just wanted to compile it
[06:19] <youngcoder> but
[06:19] <UbuntuN00b> I guess I need to buy more?
[06:19] <brenner> HappyFool: what irc client you using?
[06:19] <HappyFool> ok. make sure to keep the ubuntu one around if/when things go wrong ;)
[06:19] <HappyFool> brenner: emacs erc
[06:19] <brenner> bah
[06:19] <youngcoder> i do have 2 computers that are solely for experimental purposes
[06:19] <HappyFool> brenner: but x-chat does something similar
[06:20] <HappyFool> 'echo *'
[06:20] <brenner> HappyFool: yes...i never managed to get it working.  why i asked. :)
[06:20] <youngcoder> brenner, what error are you getting with x-chat?
[06:20] <HappyFool> youngcoder: fair enough
[06:20] <IceDC571> hmm.. the alsa pages dont mention anything about the soundblaster x-fi.. looks like linux developers dont care about new hardware
[06:20] <ompaul> HappyFool, sorry I want the contents of those :) ahh I'll play with xargs and some other stuff for a minute or so
[06:20] <brenner> youngcoder: not an error persay, just can't work it out. :)
[06:21] <flodine> Tzi i install breezy the same way i do hoary but when it says its done and reboot it doesnt
[06:21] <youngcoder> brenner, well if you expalin i might can help
[06:21] <brenner> IceDC571: or someone hasn't submitted their success yet. :P
[06:21] <LathropWells> IceDC - did you search sourceforge? freshmeat?
[06:21] <HappyFool> ompaul: echo */* ?
[06:21] <IceDC571> haha... damn creative
[06:21] <youngcoder> i cant config samba but i love x-chat :)
[06:21] <brenner> youngcoder: ok, how would i go about getting a sound to play when someone posts with my name in it?
[06:22] <ompaul> HappyFool, thanks thats the one
[06:22] <brenner> er, preferrably no the beep either. :)
[06:22] <fivetwentysix> Is there a program i can use to convert videos to psp format?
[06:22] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: SO, basically I buy more?
[06:22] <IceDC571> i dont think they release open source drivers because alsa is a lot more successful than they'll ever be
[06:22] <UbuntuN00b> fivetwentysix: pspvideo 9
[06:22] <ompaul> HappyFool, was looking at ls -R but then you have to strip out the directory names - yuk
[06:22] <flodine> can someone tell me why hoary doesnt update to kernel 2.6.12?
[06:22] <HappyFool> ompaul: i'd probably use find with -exec
[06:22] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[06:23] <brenner> flodine: security updates only iirc
[06:23] <fivetwentysix> Is that available on repositries?
[06:23] <youngcoder> settings-->sound-->your messege
[06:23] <elvirolo> hi all
[06:23] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: More ram is always good..
[06:23] <youngcoder> brenner, settings-->sound-->your messege
[06:23] <flodine> has anyone updateed there hoary to kernel to 2.6.12
[06:23] <youngcoder> brenner, then select a sound
[06:23] <brenner> youngcoder: k, now i know which event...what do i put in sound playing method?
[06:24] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: I dunno really, without actually being physically at the computer there's not much more I could suggest
[06:24] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: YEs. WHat doed Ubuntu run on anyway?
[06:24] <UbuntuN00b> How much ram
[06:24] <Tzi> flodine: I'm 2.6.12-6-686
[06:24] <elvirolo> i just upgraded to breezy ... and the boot process halts at "checking battery state" (although i don't have a laptop)
[06:24] <ompaul> HappyFool, it ends up getting pumped through ogg123 -z  move a few files in and out randomly and you get a continious playlist of all availabe muzac that works for the purposes here
[06:24] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[06:24] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: You what now?
[06:24] <youngcoder> brenner, automatic doesnt work?
[06:24] <flodine> Tzi you on breezy
[06:24] <Tzi> flodine: Yup
[06:24] <brenner> youngcoder: hang on.. just changed. can you post something again? :)
[06:24] <UbuntuN00b> Tzi: How much ram does ubunto use
[06:24] <Tzi> Oh
[06:24] <Tzi> Duh
[06:25] <brenner> youngcoder: actually, i heard the sound...when _i_ post. :)
[06:25] <Tzi> UbuntuN00b: I've got 512mb, currently 487mb used
[06:25] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, as much as you can put in your machine, though in your case half a gig would be fantastic
[06:25] <youngcoder> brenner, thats a start
[06:25] <Tzi> Mind you, I ask a lot of my machine...
[06:25] <flodine> well has anyone on 5.04 updated there kernel?
[06:25] <elvirolo> has anyone experienced the same prob as me ?
[06:25] <UbuntuN00b> Ompaul: I have 1024 in my other desktop, but im experimenting here before i move to that one
[06:26] <youngcoder> brenner, have you selected an event for your messege?
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> I love Linux, I'm just so sucky at commands and such.
[06:26] <Tzi> elvirolo: Sounds irritating =) Have you googled/searched ubuntuforums?
[06:26] <ompaul> UbuntuN00b, then you will be fine
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> Plus, I don't like some of the compatibility issues.
[06:26] <elvirolo> Tzi: i have :(
[06:26] <brenner> youngcoder: "your message" is for when the user posts
[06:26] <brenner> youngcoder: just working out which one is the trigger for when someone posts to _me_
[06:26] <Tzi> elvirolo: Try booting with 'noacpi'
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> Like. I want most of my Windows programs to run
[06:26] <brenner> youngcoder: sound seems to work though. *thumbs up*
[06:26] <UbuntuN00b> But, that's not possible.
[06:26] <elvirolo> Tzi: oh yeah, good idea, i hadn't thought of that
[06:27] <elvirolo> thanks
[06:27] <adjacent> hmm. im new to ubuntu's packages... where is smbmount?
[06:27] <brenner> youngcoder: can you try again pls?
[06:27] <Tzi> elvirolo: Or mv /etc/rc2.d/S99acpi-support /etc/rc2.d/K99acpi-support, if that doesn't work
[06:27] <adjacent> mount -t smbfs gives an error about no support in dmesg
[06:28] <Tzi> But it should
[06:28] <youngcoder> brenner, does it work ?
[06:28] <HappyFool> adjacent: try -t cifs ?
[06:28] <HappyFool> adjacent: or do 'sudo modprobe smbfs' and try again
[06:28] <brenner> no, not that time either.....i'll just ask #xchat....thanks though!
[06:28] <youngcoder> brenner, any luck?
[06:28] <Tzi> So.. Has anyone else had issues with Evolution showing a blank inbox? (Even though mine's currently reporting 1 new message)
[06:29] <Tzi> Other folders seem to be fine
[06:29] <adjacent> HappyFool: smbfs is loaded. still eroors
[06:29] <adjacent> HappyFool: im playing with cifs now
[06:29] <brenner> youngcoder: i think i got it this time...
[06:29] <youngcoder> which one was it?
[06:29] <HappyFool> adjacent: smbmount is in the 'smbfs' package
[06:30] <brenner> youngcoder: nvm, didn't work. :)
[06:30] <youngcoder> brenner, i personal dont have it set that way but i am curious
[06:30] <brenner> oh! i heard it!
[06:30] <youngcoder> brenner, did you try the beep ?
[06:30] <Rayen> hi, i was wondering if is possible to install Ubuntu on a small ISO (less than 100 MB) ?
[06:30] <brenner> youngcoder: i think it's "channel msg highlight"
[06:30] <youngcoder> ahh
[06:30] <youngcoder> try that
[06:30] <HappyFool> adjacent: smbfs is dependent on smbclient, which is in turn dependent on ubuntu-desktop (and kubuntu-desktop), so on a normal install you should have it
[06:31] <youngcoder> that would make sense
[06:31] <HappyFool> Rayen: not easily, i don't think, but i may be wrong
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, any luck?
[06:31] <brenner> youngcoder: yep...that's the one!
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, woot
[06:31] <brenner> youngcoder: thanks for your testing. :)
[06:31] <adjacent> HappyFool: that was it. i had samba-common, etc installed, but smbfs was messed up
[06:31] <adjacent> HappyFool: thanks
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, trial and error my friend
[06:31] <HappyFool> adjacent: np
[06:31] <brenner> everyone else: sorry for flooding. :P
[06:31] <youngcoder> brenner, thank for helping me flood its my hobby :P
[06:31] <HappyFool> Rayen: you can experiment with the 'expert' install mode and see how little you can install
[06:32] <Rayen> HappyFool That's great! I will try that :)
[06:32] <brenner> HappyFool: i think he wants a samll iso, not a small install. :-/
[06:32] <brenner> *small
[06:32] <Tritis> Anyone know how to fix the gnome1 fonts in GnuCash?
[06:32] <Rayen> HappyFool is there any documentation for the expert install  ?
[06:32] <HappyFool> oh
[06:32] <HappyFool> Rayen: oops, my mistake
[06:33] <HappyFool> Rayen: i didn't notice the 'ISO' bit there
[06:33] <Rayen> hehe
[06:33] <Rayen> so I need to get the 600/700 MB file?
[06:33] <brenner> Rayen: afaik, no....the ISOs available are all there is
[06:33] <brenner> i think so, yes
[06:33] <Rayen> ok
[06:33] <brenner> tehre's shipit
[06:33] <rushi> hi, re. breezy kernel, does anyone know if radeonfb patch allowing radeon_force_sleep will be included?
[06:33] <brenner> *there's
[06:34] <brenner> Rayen: you can get the cds shipped to you for free if you can wait
[06:34] <amep> I have a laptop that fails during suspend to RAM (goes down, but oopses on the way up before the screen lights up). The machine is a Compaq R3000z AMD64 system and I used the dailly CD image of yesterdat. How should I go about debugging? and is suspend to RAM a target for breezy so should I even bother? Suspend to disk worked.
[06:35] <moparfan90> hello. i have mplayer installed but cant watch this movie... i get this error and then the movie sound starts playing... its a .wmv
[06:35] <moparfan90> what do i do?
[06:35] <Webby`> momparfan90: you need the w32codecs
[06:36] <moparfan90> how do i get that
[06:36] <moparfan90> ?
[06:36] <meeep> hi. how do i make a script, using a .sfv-file and check it in the terminal with the command "cfv" ?
[06:36] <Gorth> is free-java-sdk all i need to start programming in java?
[06:36] <Gorth> (is that the same SDK i'd get off the sun website)
[06:36] <Webby`> momparfan90: It's on this page: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html click on the one that says all
[06:36] <moparfan90> Webby`, how do i get that?
[06:36] <moparfan90> o
[06:36] <meeep> gorth
[06:36] <Gorth> yes meeep?
[06:36] <meeep> gorth, download the JDK and netbeans from sun's homepage
[06:36] <brenner> !java
[06:37] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> hello everyone, I'm working on a sound problem
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> when I do "fuser /dev/dsp"
[06:37] <brenner> i think that coveres jdk as well
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> I get the following notice:
[06:37] <Gorth> ah
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> arachnion@Spanky:~$ fuser /dev/dsp
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> /dev/.static/dev: Permission denied
[06:37] <brenner> *covers
[06:37] <Gorth> thanks ya'll
[06:37] <aRAchNiON> does anyone have an idea what this means?
[06:37] <meeep> hi. how do i make a script, using a .sfv-file and check it in the terminal with the command "cfv" ?
[06:38] <Gorth> i assume sun-j2sdk1.5 comes straight from sun??
[06:38] <meeep> Gorth, correct
[06:38] <brenner> Gorth: seems so
[06:38] <meeep> thats the one you should use!
[06:38] <Gorth> thanks ya'll!
[06:38] <Gorth> :D
[06:39] <meeep> darn, does any1 here know how to make a script?
[06:39] <meeep> !script
[06:39] <ubotu> meeep: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:40] <Gorth> is cedega worth 5 dollars a month?
[06:40] <Gorth> or does WINE do just as good of a job :O
[06:40] <Gorth> or should i break down and reboot to windows everytime i want to play my games :("
[06:41] <brenner> cedega cvs is free iirc ... not sure of the functionality hit it takes though
[06:41] <Gorth> indeed
[06:41] <Gorth> thanks
[06:41] <brenner> sadly, i still dualboot for gaming
[06:41] <Gorth> :(
[06:41] <brenner> except for q3 :)
[06:41] <Gorth> i just don't have any firewalls or anti virus deals on my windows partition
[06:42] <Gorth> (and i don't really need em on my linux partition :O)
[06:42] <amep> brenner: the CVS version doesn't have the install shield support so installing the games is hard.
[06:42] <Gorth> so i hate getting on windows
[06:42] <seife> hi
[06:42] <seife> i just installed ubuntu
[06:42] <seife> first time using this OS
[06:42] <seife> ive used windows all my life
[06:42] <seife> tell me what u guys recommend to me
[06:42] <brenner> amep: interesting.  i heard dx9 support doesn't exist either?
[06:42] <Gorth> seife: that's a pretty broad request
[06:42] <aRAchNiON> seife, anything in particular?
[06:43] <brenner> Gorth: just get zone-alarm and avast
[06:43] <youngcoder> HappyFool, you said to make sure i keep the hoary kernel
[06:43] <meeep> darn, does any1 here know how to make a script?
[06:43] <asdc> sorry, i don't want to be boring
[06:43] <seife> ok
[06:43] <HappyFool> youngcoder: yip
[06:43] <seife> help
[06:43] <Gorth> thanks brenner
[06:43] <seife> i have never used this lol
[06:43] <asdc> but i have some problems with my apt
[06:43] <seife> i would like to install the sound
[06:43] <seife> to hear some music
[06:43] <amep> brenner: I don't know. It been a while since I looked I just know that installshield is copyright incumbered so it cannot be released for free.
[06:43] <aRAchNiON> seife ;) that can be a bit of a problem
[06:43] <seife> what type of music files can i listen to in linux?
[06:43] <asdc> Reading package lists... Done
[06:43] <asdc> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:43] <asdc> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[06:43] <asdc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:43] <asdc>   amule: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <seife> why?
[06:43] <asdc>          Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <asdc>          Depends: libwxbase2.4 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <HappyFool> youngcoder: you should be able to have multiple kernels (and related files) in /boot
[06:43] <asdc>          Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= <IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <youngcoder> HappyFool, not sure im gonna install it because i have heard nothing but bad things but i might
[06:43] <asdc>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: gimp but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <aRAchNiON> ubuntu seems to have some sound issues
[06:43] <asdc>                   Depends: gstreamer0.8-x but it is not going to be installed
[06:43] <HappyFool> asdc: please don't paste in here
[06:44] <asdc>                   Depends: ttf-baekmuk but it is not going to be installed
[06:44] <asdc>                   Depends: ttf-kochi-gothic but it is not going to be installed
[06:44] <asdc>                   Depends: ubuntu-quickguide but it is not going to be installedE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:44] <brenner> asdc: DON'T paste!
[06:44] <youngcoder> HappyFool, that is what i was hoping
[06:44] <asdc> oops
[06:44] <asdc> sorry
[06:44] <aRAchNiON> try and test your sound by doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[06:44] <asdc> sorry sorry!
[06:44] <HappyFool> youngcoder: the risk is probably not that great
[06:44] <brenner> asdc: in future, use a pastebin for > 3 lines
[06:44] <seife> wtf is that cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp?
[06:44] <youngcoder> HappyFool, ya i can always revert back
[06:44] <brenner> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:44] <aRAchNiON> oh sorry, seife, you know how to use terminals?
[06:44] <seife> where i have to put that.
[06:44] <seife> no, this is first time i use this
[06:44] <seife> lol
[06:44] <brenner> !terminal
[06:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, terminal is in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.
[06:44] <brenner> seife: ^^^
[06:45] <moparfan90> helo again
[06:46] <moparfan90> where are the codecs for mplayer ?
[06:46] <brenner> asdc: you might be missing some repos
[06:46] <brenner> !repos
[06:46] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:46] <meeep> geez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(
[06:46] <brenner> moparfan90: on the mplayer site
[06:47] <moparfan90> i read the read me its not where they said it would be>
[06:47] <moparfan90> ?\
[06:47] <asdc> brenner and i solve it in the /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[06:47] <brenner> moparfan90: er didn't Webby` tell you how already?
[06:48] <brenner> asdc: yes
[06:48] <moparfan90> no just the site
[06:48] <huhmz> Hi. How can I see all the messages from when the computer is booting? that is the output of the init scripts, not just /var/log/messages
[06:48] <asdc> so I have to change some repositories.... there is a list in the ubunto page?
[06:49] <asdc> ok
[06:49] <asdc> thanks
[06:50] <Seveas> moparfan90, ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[06:50] <brenner> huhmz: dmesg | less
[06:50] <huhmz> brenner: no
[06:51] <brenner> asdc: there's a sample one on the second link in ubotu's last post
[06:51] <athlon> ve never burnt a dvd+rw before, is there any other parameter that I have to set or will k3b recognize that the media is rewriteable ?
[06:51] <asdc> ok
[06:51] <asdc> i'm just on it
[06:53] <catch_> hi, I was having a problem earlyer which a couple of you were helping me with, when ever I did any apt-get upgrade function my machine froze or rebooted
[06:54] <moparfan90> Seveas, whats that?
[06:54] <catch_> I've narrowed it down to the deletion of a couple of files, when i try and do it by hand as root (sudo su) it also causes my machine to die
[06:54] <meeep> geez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(
[06:54] <moparfan90> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net, nevermind
[06:54] <catch_> They seem to just be readme files and changelogs in /usr/share/doc/dbus-glib-1
[06:55] <catch_> I was wondering if anyone would know why deleting them would cause my machine to suddently die
[06:55] <Gorth> is there a repository with netbeans?
[06:55] <Gorth> or do i just have to MANUALLY DO THAT ONE
[06:55] <pmazer> anyone know of a program like squirrelmail that might be better?
[06:55] <Gorth> ubuntu's made me lazy :(
[06:55] <s_wart> can someone point me to a FAQ page on how to upgrade from hoary?
[06:56] <Gorth> there's a new one?
[06:56] <s_wart> just want to get some newer packages
[06:56] <brenner> s_wart: you sure you want to?
[06:56] <brenner> :)
[06:56] <s_wart> I just restaged an hour ago. I will do it again if necessary :)
[06:57] <brenner> Gorth: breezy....will be officially released in october
[06:57] <brenner> !upgrade
[06:57] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:57] <Gorth> ah
[06:57] <s_wart> brilliant. thanks vm
[06:57] <Gorth> thanks brenner
[06:57] <brenner> s_wart: replace warty with hoary, and hoary with breezy. :)
[06:57] <catch_> brenner : how stable is breezy?
[06:57] <ubercompuser> i woud like to know on a 3 pin fan connector. what colors are what?
[06:57] <Gorth> who makes these names?!
[06:58] <brenner> catch_: can't say personally having never used it.....people who have have said it goes back and forth between being broken
[06:59] <seife> anyone can help me
[06:59] <seife> i want to install sound card
[06:59] <seife> to get sound on speakers :(
[06:59] <seife> im newb
[06:59] <catch_> do you or anyone else know why trying to delete txt files in /usr/share/doc/dbus-glib-1 would cause my machine to die?
[06:59] <Rayen> Is Debian able to install/work with -all- Ubuntu (Apt-Get) Packages ?
[07:00] <brenner> catch_: define die. :)
[07:00] <brenner> Rayen: afaik, it's a bad idea to mix the two
[07:01] <Seveas> Rayen, ubuntu is not debian
[07:01] <Seveas> don't mix repositories
[07:01] <brenner> they're different distros and as such have different configs
[07:01] <mumbles> yay - my wirewing worked first time for once
[07:01] <catch_> brenner : either the screen goes black and the box reboots or it hangs, I assume the kernel is dead when it hangs
[07:01] <seife> is anyone helping me :( ?
[07:01] <Gorth> what do i need to install with aptitude to get all the compilers?
[07:01] <Gorth> without having to do them separately??
[07:01] <Seveas> Gorth, build-essential
[07:01] <brenner> seife: do you get any sound at all?
[07:01] <Gorth> seveas, thanks
[07:01] <Rayen> brenner but Ubuntu is able to work with Debian?!
[07:02] <Seveas> Gorth, that does not include java compilers however
[07:02] <moparfan90> hello. ok i added the codecs and still get a error
[07:02] <Gorth> gcj?
[07:02] <Seveas> Gorth, not in hoary
[07:02] <HappyFool> Rayen: ubuntu is based on debian, but there can be binary incompatabilities (e.g., libc version)
[07:02] <Webby`> Did you restart your xomputer?
[07:02] <Maikeru> hey
[07:02] <seife> no i dont
[07:02] <__filip_> how can i mount my hda6 that is an ext3 partition?
[07:02] <seife> im TOTALLY newb.
[07:02] <Maikeru> I have an older laptop and am using the DWL-650 Revision P PCMCIA card.
[07:03] <moparfan90> no. do i have to?
[07:03] <Maikeru> I have been on google for hours trying to find information
[07:03] <Seveas> __filip_, mount -t ext3 /dev/hda6 /path/to/desired/mountpoint
[07:03] <Maikeru> I finally got ndiswrapper working and loaded the winxp drivers through it
[07:03] <moparfan90> Webby`, do i have to?
[07:03] <brenner> Rayen: use ubuntu packages/repos
[07:03] <__filip_> Seveas: ok
[07:03] <Webby`> i think so
[07:03] <moparfan90> ok
[07:03] <moparfan90> brb
[07:03] <Rayen> ok
[07:03] <Seveas> Maikeru, yeah ndiswrapper is a bitch sometimes
[07:03] <Maikeru> ndiswrapper -l says that the netprism is loaded
[07:04] <Maikeru> Well, I do iwconfig wlan0 and ifconfig wlan0
[07:04] <Maikeru> neither can find it
[07:04] <brenner> seife: not even when you click on icons?  (i.e. the drum sound)
[07:04] <Maikeru> I'm tired and just want to get on the net via my laptop
[07:04] <Maikeru> can anybody -please- walk me through this
[07:04] <Seveas> Maikeru, what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[07:05] <Seveas> it should say 'driver present, hardware present'
[07:05] <Maikeru> BTW: Kernel 2.6.10-5-386, Ubuntu Hoary release
[07:05] <Seveas> ah
[07:05] <Maikeru> netprism driver present
[07:05] <Seveas> switch to linux-686 (pentium processor) or linux-k7 (amd)
[07:05] <El_Che> small question: any idea why dvi will work on the console but not on X?
[07:05] <Seveas> the -386 has been troublesome with ndiswrapper
[07:05] <flodine> can ubuntu uzip mpg files
[07:06] <Maikeru> Hrm
[07:06] <Seveas> flodine, that makes no sense....
[07:06] <Maikeru> Er
[07:06] <Maikeru> Can I speak to you in PM real quick?
[07:06] <Seveas> mpg files are not zips
[07:06] <Seveas> Maikeru, sure
[07:07] <seife> no
[07:07] <seife> not sound at all
[07:07] <ubercompuser> which connectors on a 3 pin fan represent
[07:07] <brenner> seife: have a read of this then: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[07:07] <seife> brenner
[07:07] <seife> i have sound
[07:07] <brenner> seife: search the forum if none of that works
[07:07] <seife> on my headphones
[07:07] <seife> when i click icons
[07:08] <seife> but i dont get sound
[07:08] <seife> on the speakers
[07:08] <Gorth> SOUNDS like speaker problems!
[07:08] <chumphries> hello, i installed server package, and postfix is installed and running, and i can netcat to port 25 locally, yet not remotely, iptables allows port 25 in, and that is correct. also why are a lot of microsoft looking services look like they are running except samba is not installed.
[07:08] <seife> the speakers needs a CD to be installed
[07:08] <moparfan90> hello again
[07:09] <seife> i ise to use that cd
[07:09] <seife> in windows
[07:09] <seife> but i dunno if i can use it on linux
[07:09] <moparfan90> i restarted and it doesnt wok
[07:09] <a_monkey> gcc 3.3.5 is a huge man page, and i don't feel like scrolling thru the whole thing in a terminal shell
[07:09] <a_monkey> any way i can see the gcc 3.3.5 man page as html or something?
[07:10] <lonewolff> install man2html
[07:10] <lonewolff> man2html - Turns a web-browser and an httpd-server into a man pager
[07:10] <lonewolff> or use stuff on tldp.org
[07:10] <a_monkey> um
[07:10] <a_monkey> ok
[07:10] <Jhair> a_monkey, emacs has a man mode where you can display man pages... (M-x man)
[07:10] <a_monkey> Jhair: oh cool
[07:10] <brenner> seife: like i said, try that page, then search the forum
[07:11] <brenner> jhaa: why not just use a terminal then? :-/
[07:11] <moparfan90> i m using mplayer and cant play a wmv movie. how can i fix this?
[07:11] <brenner> what's the difference?
[07:12] <Seveas> moparfan90, install their codecs
[07:12] <brenner> moparfan90: some wm* files aren't supported iirc
[07:12] <moparfan90> i did it doesnt work
[07:12] <brenner> the more recent formats especially
[07:12] <moparfan90> is there any way to fix it?
[07:12] <moparfan90> o
[07:13] <fivetwentysix> Hurray, I got my newsgroups working in Thunderbird!
[07:13] <Jhair> brenner, the emacs man-mode has some nice features like following links to reference to other man pages for example
[07:13] <Xappe> moparfan90: http://nanocrew.net/?p=129 <-- something like that perhaps
[07:13] <brenner> jhaa: sort of like 'info' then?
[07:14] <Tufek> I have ubuntu 4.10 version , Is it support sata raid 0 or no?
[07:14] <seife> ok
[07:14] <moparfan90> i dont have breeze
[07:15] <Xappe> moparfan90: well, that could work on hoary?
[07:15] <moparfan90> ok
[07:15] <Xappe> but i'm far from sure :)
[07:15] <Xappe> just remembered that I saw that url in the forums today
[07:16] <moparfan90> ok
[07:18] <meeep> geez, is noone up for learning me a simple script? :(
[07:18] <moparfan90> it cant find the files
[07:18] <jhaa> brenner ?
[07:19] <brenner> nvm, i guess
[07:19] <Gorth> how do i run a jar?
[07:19] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone tell me how to permanently change my hostname?
[07:20] <chumphries> /etc/hostname ?
[07:20] <Concord_Dawn> thanks.
[07:22] <brenner> Gorth: what does 'file <filename.jar>' say?
[07:22] <TestDummy> Ugh, this new policy sucks :(
[07:22] <Gorth> jedit42install.jar: Zip archive data, at least v1.0 to extract
[07:22] <huhmz> which package does the "misc" fonts come from for X?
[07:23] <houman_zhu> hi there, i was wondering why i have two kernel configs on my computer :| /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/.config and  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config , whichi one is the real .config ?
[07:24] <zeus1_> does anyone kno how to fix sound
[07:24] <chumphries> houman_zhu: well the one that matches your kernel?
[07:24] <brenner> Gorth: never ran into jar files, but maybe try double-clicking in nautilus?
[07:24] <brenner> !sound
[07:24] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[07:24] <Gorth> indeed :(
[07:24] <chumphries> jar files are java archive files
[07:24] <chumphries> need java
[07:24] <surfdue> hey there is a problem with skype
[07:24] <surfdue> the package is gone?
[07:25] <brenner> *chuckle*
[07:25] <surfdue> dont chuckle
[07:25] <surfdue> lol
[07:25] <brenner> obviously i've never done java
[07:25] <brenner> surfdue: i like chuckling
[07:25] <houman_zhu> chumphries: but then why do i have two folders :|
[07:26] <protok0l> hey all
[07:26] <houman_zhu> chumphries: one is 686 specific and one doesnt specifiy an architecture in its name, so i am kinda confused
[07:26] <houman_zhu> protok0l: hi there
[07:26] <protok0l> im trying to download sun java with apt, but it says that there is a dependency that it cannot resolve, libasound2
[07:26] <gnomicon> when i open a second gnome session for the same user with "X :1 -query <ip>" from another host, i dont have any icons in nautilus (on the desktop and in the file browser)
[07:27] <zeus1_> no see...i have working sound but its the USB headset thats not working
[07:27] <zeus1_> ubuntu is not detecting my head set...
[07:27] <gnomicon> although it works when i connect twice on a fedora powered gnome..
[07:27] <TestDummy> Uh, er, I'm having a problem. I can't get Gaim to work with MSN at all. I've tried installing it from Synaptic, compiling twice from source (using gnutls and nss), tried to autopackage, and I still cannot use MSN. #gaim says it's their problem, but everything is just fine in Windows. I don't know what to do about it.
[07:28] <houman_zhu> TerminX: what d you mean? so liek you cant sign in ? what erro do you get?
[07:28] <protok0l> TestDummy: MSN goes down all the time, just wait it out
[07:28] <TestDummy> I've tried over three days.
[07:28] <TestDummy> Tells me it's failing to authenticate.
[07:28] <Xappe> have you tested any other IM-client with msn support?
[07:28] <TestDummy> And like I said, no problems in Windows. I'm aware they do have a little problem every now and then.
[07:28] <brenner> protok0l: following the wiki?
[07:29] <TestDummy> Xappe: yes I have.
[07:29] <TestDummy> aMSN doesn't work either.
[07:29] <zeus1_> ubuntu is not  detecting my USB headset...crimsun helped me detect it but when I rebooted it didnt detect any more
[07:30] <Xappe> TestDummy: I've used centericq with msn without any problems
[07:30] <gnomicon> any idea ?..
[07:30] <Alia26> Hi.. Can i get some help? Last night i installed ubuntu from the official cd. I got alot of Trying to fix it, but a reboot is needed. A friend of me told me to run memtest86 to see if there was some problems with my ram. If i'm gonna run memtest86 from the livecd. what do i type on the boot: line?
[07:31] <brenner> zeus1_: wait for crimsun i guess...unfortunately not many other sound gurus in here
[07:31] <TestDummy> Er..
[07:31] <TestDummy> Wrong button
[07:31] <zeus1_> :(
[07:31] <TestDummy> Xappe: Hm..
[07:31] <zeus1_> this makes me very.,..upset
[07:32] <TestDummy> I haven't tried that yet. But I'm not very familiar with that program.
[07:32] <jfosa> I 'installed' the JRE, but nothing yet
[07:32] <thrice`> is preview release considered stable for breezy ?  (well, stable enough)
[07:32] <houman_zhu> hi there, i was wondering why i have two kernel configs on my computer :| /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/.config and  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/.config , whichi one is the real .config ?
[07:32] <brenner> Alia26: if you installed, grub should give you a memtest boot option
[07:32] <thrice`> houman_zhu: do you see a difference in those ?
[07:32] <Alia26> brenner: hmm.. so i don't need a livecd?
[07:32] <houman_zhu> thrice: yes, one has the 686 the other doesnt
[07:33] <brenner> Alia26: well, _i_ have a memtest boot option
[07:33] <thrice`> houman_zhu: ok; looks like one's a config for a 686 kernel, the other isn't
[07:33] <Xappe> TestDummy: that's a cli client though...really nice for running in screen on a remote server :)
[07:33] <Alia26> brenner: hoary, right?
[07:33] <brenner> Alia26: not sure how you would run memtest through live anyways