[03:36] <canthus13> developer: It's not too bad if you have ~384k for upload speeds.
[03:37] <canthus13> developer: never used it.  Tightvnc gives you a window with the desktop of the server inside.
[03:37] <nhandler> x/48
[03:37] <verb3k> Losha, thanks for your tremendous help
[03:37] <verb3k> :D
[03:37] <MoeGreen> ya some kind of program that will connect to my ftp and give me live feed or snapshots every hour.
[03:37] <developer> canthus13: k..thats what i need
[03:37] <verb3k> MoeGreen, even if it's advanced and difficult to set? you have no problem with that?
[03:37]  * canthus13 prefers go2assist for streaming connections, but there's no linux version, unfortunatly. :(  It works great even at 150k.
[03:38] <developer> canthus13: so the first thing is that i should learn port forwarding...isnt it
[03:38] <canthus13> developer: It's not too hard on most routers.
[03:38] <developer> ok..
[03:38] <canthus13> developer: Are you behind a regular consumer-grade router?
[03:38] <aspidites> MoeGreen: http://alternativeto.net/desktop/gotoassist/
[03:38] <verb3k> MoeGreen, http://blog.devinrkennedy.com/2009/10/live-screencasting-using-ffmpeg.html, it's talking about screencasting, but the principle is similar
[03:38] <developer> canthus13: actually...we have ADSL Router
[03:38] <canthus13> developer: Then yes.
[03:39] <canthus13> developer: If you can get into the configuration, there should be a section for port forwarding.
[03:39] <MoeGreen> thx ill check it out.
[03:39] <aspidites> MoeGreen: then again, that might just  be remote access to the computer..hmmm
[03:39] <canthus13> developer: On most routers, it's pretty self-explanatory.
[03:39] <developer> canthus13: and the thing is that the public ip is on the routers interface
[03:39] <developer> canthus13: yas there is a section for portforwarding
[03:39] <canthus13> developer: If you're on a machine behind the router, you can go to ipchicken.com and get the public IP.
[03:40] <aspidites> MoeGreen: just a sec. might have found something
[03:40] <elitecoder> What's the name of the 9.10 release?
[03:40] <blakkheim> or just $ curl whatismyip.org && echo
[03:40] <elitecoder> jaunty?
[03:40] <elitecoder> or something else..
[03:40] <verb3k> Karmic Koala
[03:40] <MoeGreen> koo
[03:40] <ubuntuUserTom> Can any body tell me how I can delete my home directory, its my 'old' one that I don't need any more (re-synced it onto another partition) atm I am re-downloading ubuntu so i can use the USB to do it but is there any other way?
[03:40] <developer> canthus13: another thing is that the router is connected to a server and the local lan is connected to the server via a switch
[03:40] <elitecoder> thank you
[03:41] <Anacranom> elitecoder: karmic
[03:41] <aspidites> MoeGreen: meh. nevermind. assorted stuff i never heard of. sorry
[03:41] <elitecoder> thanks again :]
[03:41] <verb3k> elitecoder, you're welcome
[03:41] <MoeGreen> np
[03:42] <developer> canthus13: and the server has two network card and there is internal routing done within that server
[03:42] <developer> canthus13: i think all these things will make complications ....:(
[03:42] <airlia> Anyone want to help me out? I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and it keeps freezing every 10 or so minutes.
[03:42] <canthus13> developer: Maybe.  so.. all traffic goes through the server?
[03:43] <LLStarks> hi. how do i prevent synaptic from stealing focus?
[03:43] <developer> canthus13: yes..alll trafic goes through the server
[03:43] <scunizi> developer: so why have a router if you're using the server as one?
[03:43] <Dreki> airlia, you just installed ubuntu?
[03:43] <julio_> #ubuntu
[03:43] <canthus13> developer: Give it a shot.. the worst that can happen is it won't work and you'll have to figure out how to get the server to forward the traffic on.
[03:43] <airlia> I'm an ubuntu noob, but I've been running 9.10 for a month or so now.
[03:44] <airlia> The freezing has always been there, it's just gotten a lot worse recently.
[03:44] <canthus13> developer: Is the server transparent to the network? Or is it the default gateway?
[03:44] <aspidites> airlia: comfortable with a terminal?
[03:44] <airlia> A bit.
[03:44] <kalakupua> Hey
[03:44] <developer> canthus13: server is the default gateway
[03:44] <aspidites> airlia: pastebin top command for me please.
[03:44] <canthus13> developer: Then it might not work without a little tweaking to the server.
[03:44] <scunizi> !ics | developer - I came in late adn didn't get it all.. maybe this will help
[03:45] <developer> scunizi: the router is actually ADSL router...which provides iternet
[03:45] <kalakupua> Ubuntu Rocks!
[03:45] <julio_> How Can i connect to Ubuntu Brazil here?
[03:45] <Trek> julio_, is there an Ubuntu Brazil IRC channel?
[03:45] <bazhang> julio_, /j #ubuntu-br
[03:45] <canthus13> julio_: #ubuntu-br
[03:45] <Trek> thats a yes :P
[03:45] <julio_> Thanks!!!
[03:45] <bazhang> np :)
[03:45] <scunizi> developer: ah.. just went through that with a business..
[03:45] <airlia> http://pastebin.com/d6340a433
[03:45] <daddysmurf> currently, at home I run ubuntu on my server. At work, we use CentOS (de-branded redhat). I need a test environment to learn to write rpm's. I cannot use work boxes (yet) because, I'm just learning the sys admin part, and we can't spare the boxes at the moment. I have a few options that I see. I can reformat with fedora (or some other rpm-based distro), I can use xen and para-virtualize an rpm-based distro (my preference), or I can
[03:46] <sekyourbox> hoq do I force firefox to use <IP_ADDRESS>-1 instead of Shockwave Flash 9.0 r260?
[03:46] <kalakupua> Anyone interested in a IDN? www.sɹǝʞɔɐɥ.com
[03:46] <scunizi> daddysmurf: use virtualbox.. easier and faster to setup..
[03:46] <bazhang> kalakupua, that is offtopic here dont paste in this channel
[03:46] <daddysmurf> scunizi: no gui
[03:47] <kalakupua> sorry
[03:47] <aspidites> airlia: when you say freezing do you mean all around or only certain programs?
[03:47] <kalakupua> I can answer ubuntu questions too
[03:47] <scunizi> daddysmurf: it will run headless.. or gui-less
[03:47] <kalakupua> :D
[03:47] <daddysmurf> scunizi: oh?
[03:47] <airlia> All around. Complete kernal failure. Caps lock doesn't even light up.
[03:47] <developer> canthus13: i think the things will be easy if i have the public IP for the server isnt it??
[03:47] <developer> canthus13: i mean the ppoe mode
[03:47] <daddysmurf> scunizi: completely, or after it's setup?
[03:47] <airlia> Can't ctrl+alt f1 for a shell either.
[03:47] <scunizi> daddysmurf: but not the version in the repos.. just the version from their site.. they have a repo for ubuntu
[03:47] <Zilu54> is there any ubuntu game IRCs?
[03:47] <aspidites> airlia: pastebin cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:47] <scunizi> daddysmurf: completely
[03:47] <Zilu54> is there any ubuntu game IRCs?
[03:47] <sdwrage> How does one restart their GNOME desktop? I need a few menu items that I installed to show up
[03:48] <daddysmurf> scunizi: you may have just solved my entire issue
[03:48] <snuxoll> sdwrage: you just need to restare your panel
[03:48] <scunizi> sdwrage: sudo service gdm restart
[03:48] <scunizi> daddysmurf: :)
[03:48] <julio_> Hi people. I can't configure Kismet here in Ubuntu, People say that using BackTrack we don't even have to configure Kismet, is it true??
[03:48] <snuxoll> sdwrage: hit alt-f2 and type in: pkill gnome-panel
[03:48] <blakkheim> julio_: no
[03:48] <sekyourbox> hoq do I force firefox to use <IP_ADDRESS>-1 instead of Shockwave Flash 9.0 r260?
[03:48] <sekyourbox> not sure if it went through
[03:49] <airlia> No such file or directory when i run the command cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:49] <julio_> blakkheim So even in Back Track I gotta edit kismet.conf, is it?
[03:49] <blakkheim> julio_: yes
[03:49] <scunizi> airlia: nope.. not on the latest releases.. xrandr controls video setup
[03:49] <daddysmurf> sekyourbox: uninstall 9.0, figure out what it's failing to see?
[03:49] <aspidites> airlia: hmm..may be somewhere else. running arch here so i can't remember
[03:49] <aspidites> airlia: run locate xorg.conf
[03:49] <aspidites> then cat the result of that
[03:50] <julio_> blakkheim: =//, Thanks!!
[03:50] <aspidites> unless..by default does ubuntu run without xorg.conf?
[03:50] <deostroll> hi i installed tweetdeck. Created a custom app launcher, and added it to the applications bar on the top...i can't assign the same tweetdeck icon to it. Is it possible to do this?
[03:50] <scunizi> aspidites: there is no xorg.conf on 9.10 release
[03:50] <developer> airlia: i think ubuntu 9.10 doesnt use a xorg configuration
[03:50] <airlia> airlia@ubuntu:~$ locate xorg.conf
[03:50] <airlia> /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz
[03:50] <airlia> is the result of that command. sorry for not pastebin-ing that, are two lines okay in this channel?
[03:50] <aspidites> scunizi: just thought of that right before you typed it :P
[03:50] <snuxoll> Ubuntu 9.10 does Xorg configuration automatically now, there's no xorg.conf unless you create it
[03:50] <elitecoder> Is there a way to remove the config files installed by apt-get installing something?/
[03:50] <scunizi> aspidites: :)
[03:50] <snuxoll> airlia: that's fine
[03:50] <elitecoder> without going to find them
[03:50] <developer> airlia: ubuntu 9.10 auto configures the xserver
[03:51] <snuxoll> elitecoder: apt-get purge
[03:51] <sekyourbox> daddysmurf, i was gonna try that,but wanted to see what the deal was first
[03:51] <elitecoder> snuxoll: hank youuu
[03:51] <developer> elitecoder: use apt-get purge <package name>
[03:51] <deusr> hi
[03:51] <mauricioquiros> hi thre, I upgrade  Ubuntu Server on a VirtualBOx machine and it kill my VM, where could I ask for help? no luck with google or ubuntu forums..
[03:51] <julio_> Can Someone help me to configure Kismet?
[03:51] <aspidites> airlia: hmmm..thinking...
[03:52] <aspidites> airlia: which graphics driver are you using?
[03:52] <blakkheim> julio_: man kismet.conf
[03:52] <airlia> Oh man.. I honestly couldn't tell you.
[03:52] <aspidites> airlia: wm? stock gnome or do you have effects inabled
[03:52] <airlia> I'm using this dinosaur of a machine
[03:52] <Losha> airlia: frankly, I think freezes of the kind you describe are more likely to be due to a hardware problem. Bad memory, power supply, or motherboard. Did this box formerly run windows without freezing?
[03:52] <airlia> No effects enabled.
[03:52] <julio_> blakkheim, yeah I know, I gotta edit it, I just don know the chipset driver
[03:52] <airlia> It ran Ubuntu before, an older version. I think 7.04
[03:52] <developer> airlia: hardware configuration please
[03:52] <airlia> Then the HDD failed
[03:53] <airlia> Any command I can run to easily get you that info?
[03:53] <julio_> blakkheim, and I dont know where it is by typing lscpi or something like that
[03:53] <daddysmurf> sekyourbox: that's usually what I do if something's not working right. had zope on gentoo trying to crank up python 2.6, uninstalled 2.6, it found 2.4, then installed 2.6 after and it all worked like a dream
[03:53] <airlia> I also get an error at startup for a split second after GRUB loads, if that could help.
[03:53] <aspidites> airlia: yeah. lspci -v would do it
[03:53] <blakkheim> julio_: there is a lot of documentation on their site
[03:53] <airlia> 8254 timer not connected to io-apic is the error i think.
[03:53] <julio_> I'll take a look then, thanks!!
[03:53] <intangir> i just installed the newest version of ubuntu (9.10) and it wont let me create new panels in gnome.. i only have the default top and bottom ones...
[03:53] <deostroll> any1 knw whats a .svg file?
[03:53] <deusr> someone help me with the driver webcam Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:09c1 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Deluxe for Notebooks in ubuntu?
[03:53] <XVirus> How can I prevent a user from mounting USB disks ?
[03:54] <aspidites> airlia: :S that makes things fun. had that on my old laptop
[03:54] <developer> intangir: just right click on the top panel and click new panel
[03:54] <scunizi> deostroll: it's a svg graphic file.. inkscape or gimp should open it.
[03:54] <airlia> http://pastebin.com/d1d28c995
[03:54] <Vantrax> intangir, so you cant right click on a panel and click new panel?
[03:54] <Trek> XVirus: you would need to configure the device mounting policy.  what version of ubu may I ask?
[03:54] <aspidites> airlia: didn't cause freezes though. could be your luck though.
[03:54] <scunizi> deostroll: svg=scalable vector graphics
[03:54] <XVirus> Trek: latest
[03:54] <developer> intangir: have you tried AWN....its better than the default panel for the panel at the bottom
[03:54] <deostroll> scunizi: can u add ur own images to it?
[03:54] <airlia> There's the result of that command.
[03:54] <Trek> XVirus: hold on a minute, okay?
[03:54] <XVirus> Trek: sure
[03:55] <Vantrax> developer, or use gnome-do in dock mode, or cairo dock
[03:55] <intangir> i right click the bar, gotto new panel, and nothing happens
[03:55] <intangir> i tried it in compiz and metacity
[03:55] <intangir> neither pop up a new panel
[03:55] <aspidites> airlia: ah. intel integrated. what about the results of lsmod | grep intel?
[03:55] <scunizi> deostroll: it is an image.. one image.. you can make your own though.. install inkscape
[03:55] <developer> Vantrax: but new AWN trunk is simply superb than others
[03:55] <intangir> i tried moving the existing panels to see if it was under them or something, but no
[03:55] <XVirus> Trek: I disabled automounting .. but my problem now is that when I plug the device .. it shows in nautilus's side pane and the user can click on it to mount it
[03:55] <deusr> someone?
[03:55] <Vantrax> lol
[03:55] <flaco> hi all.. someone can help me with routing with VPN (pptp) (I can't ping between clients, but can ping from server to client and back), I got this network diagram http://img693.imageshack.us/i/redh.png/ , can't understand this guide (I'm new with networks) http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/routing.phtml#client-to-lan the route changes I have to do it in the client or in the server??
[03:55] <developer> Vantrax: Simple , Stylish, and easily configurable
[03:56] <Vantrax> developer, I still think Gnome DO is much better, a few key features that make it much much better
[03:56] <airlia> http://pastebin.com/d21e729a9
[03:56] <Trek> XVirus: Are you sure you didn't deactivate the passwords needed to mount internal media/removable media?
[03:56] <soreau> intangir: That's strange.. did you try restarting gnome-panel?
[03:56] <julio_> How can I make Kismet automatically detect my driver? hehe
[03:56] <aspidites> deusr: qc-usb driver, which is already integrated in the latest kernel (but i'm not sure which version of the kernel ubuntu runs stock)
[03:56] <XVirus> Trek: yes .. I didn't do that
[03:56] <developer> Vantrax: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/awn-new-features-download.html
[03:56] <soreau> ! webcam | deusr
[03:56] <blakkheim> julio_: you can't. if you want that kind of thing you shouldn't be using kismet in the first place.
[03:57] <developer> Vantrax: what features are distinct
[03:57] <deostroll> scunizi: k i want to take another app icon for my custom lauched app...hw can i do this?
[03:57] <julio_> hum...
[03:57] <XVirus> Trek: so ?
[03:57] <intangir> soreau: how do i restart just gnome-panel?
[03:57] <julio_> blakkheim, I want to test my wireless connection security
[03:57] <scunizi> flaco: not sure if I can help but let's see if we can logic this out.. are you on the client or server side?
[03:58] <aspidites> airlia: everything was fine until hardware failure right?
[03:58] <Trek> XVirus: sorry, give me a few seconds longer
[03:58] <blakkheim> julio_: what encryption scheme do you use
[03:58] <XVirus> Trek: sure
[03:58] <julio_> blakkheim wpa2
[03:58] <schnable> Hi, can someone point me to a resource that explains the differences between the hardy, hardy-updates, and hardy-security repos?
[03:58] <blakkheim> julio_: TKIP or AES
[03:58] <airlia> It was fine before the old HDD died
[03:58] <flacom> scunizi: both... I'm testing the network...
[03:58] <julio_> I do not understand about that much though, i've just put it in the router configuration
[03:58] <Vantrax> developer, gnome-do can search for and launch any application from the dock
[03:58] <deusr> aspidites, orcilia@ipa:/usr/NX/scripts/setup$ lsmod |grep qc
[03:58] <deusr> orcilia@ipa:/usr/NX/scripts/setup$
[03:58] <airlia> and with the older version of ubuntu
[03:58] <karpus> Hello, I'm having trouble with the Compiz plugin "Place Windows"! I want it to center Deluge's "Add Torrent" dialog, so I added "(class=Deluge-gtk) & title=Add Torrents" to the Fixed Placement Mode with the action "Centered", but it doesn't work. Anything wrong with my method? :\
[03:58] <scunizi> deostroll: right mouse click the current icon for your app, choose properties, in the new box click the icon, find the one you want and save
[03:58] <Anacranom> intangir: service gnome-panel restart
[03:58] <soreau> intangir: In ubuntu gnome, if gnome panel ever gets killed, it automatically restarts itself. So all you have to do is 'killall gnome-panel'
[03:58] <julio_> blakkheim, I guess it is AES
[03:59] <scunizi> flacom: ok.. are there routers on both sides?
[03:59] <blakkheim> julio_: and how many characters is your passphrase
[03:59] <Losha> airlia: According to google, "8254 timer not connected to io-apic" isn't known to cause freezes. In your place, I'd run a memtest overnight, and if that's clean, I'd try 8.04 LTS
[03:59] <julio_> blakkheim, and I told you, i do not understand about that much
[03:59] <julio_> blakkheim, 8
[03:59] <airlia> how do i run a memtest?
[03:59] <aspidites> airlia: really at this point i would be doing the old process of elination
[03:59] <blakkheim> julio_: you should increase that by a lot, using numbers/letters/ascii
[03:59] <scunizi> flacom: hard to tell from the diagram
[04:00] <aspidites> airlia: already do an fsck on your drives (at boot while they aren't mounted, that is)
[04:00] <soreau> karpus: Did you try using the + key in the match dialog in ccsm, then click Grab so you can click on the window you want to match?
[04:00] <blakkheim> julio_: i use a 63-character string of upper/lowercase+numbers+ascii
[04:00] <flacom> scunizi: yes, the router in the server I can made changes, in the others not
[04:00] <julio_> blakkheim can people crack it easily?
[04:00] <blakkheim> julio_: 8 chars? yes 63? no
[04:00] <julio_> blakkheim, wow
[04:00] <Trek> XVirus: i'm not sure why your system would be doing that.  I just tested my 9.10 install that I have on my server box (I use the GUI version of Ubu for my server) with removable media, and deactivated auto-mount anyways, and it prompts for the password to mount when using the sidebar
[04:00] <Trek> anyone: reference XVirus's question in case you have any other insights
[04:00] <flacom> scunizi: what info you think are missing?
[04:00] <karpus> soreau: Yes, it was through that dialog I got (class=Deluge-gtk) & title=Add Torrents
[04:00] <julio_> blakkheim I though mine was pretty good haha people here generally use wep
[04:00] <Losha> airlia: it should be a boot option. It can't hurt to fsck your disks either, as aspidites says...
[04:01] <airlia> alright, i'll do that.
[04:01] <blakkheim> julio_: yeah that can be cracked in less than a minute..
[04:01] <XVirus> Trek: how did you disable automount ?
[04:01] <airlia> what should i press to get a terminal before boot?
[04:01] <scunizi> flacom: usually with vpn you're going from one network to another.. both are seperated by routers.. if the server is the router for the network then vpn isn't required and may not be configurable
[04:01] <XVirus> XVirus: did you try with a usb flash disk ?
[04:01] <julio_> blakkheim thatś incredible
[04:01] <soreau> karpus: Do you have compiz running?
[04:01] <aspidites> memtest is tied to bios i thought?
[04:01] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta
[04:02] <airlia> memtest is in bios then? but how would i run fsck?
[04:02] <intangir> weird, i killed gnome-panel and 1 new panel appeared after restart, just 1.. in my gnome-conf it shows i have 7 now ;) i tried adding a new one that many times but now only 3 are visible (better than 2 i guess..)
[04:02] <deostroll> scunizi: my app doesn't hve an icon i guess; its the shortcut which has it. Can't find the icon loc either way...
[04:02] <julio_> blakkheim thanks! I will make a bigger password !
[04:02] <julio_> blakkheim thanks! bye!
[04:02] <karpus> soreau: "compiz" and "compiz.real" is running according to the system monitor, so it should be running :)
[04:03] <aspidites> airlia: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[04:03] <aspidites> not quite what you asked, but it will accomplish the same
[04:03] <flacom> scunizi: my only problem now... is.. that the clients A and B can't connect to the PC located in the same network of the vpn server
[04:03] <soreau> karpus: If you use the same match in a different plugin, does it work? For example, using the match in the OBS plugin to make it transparent a bit
[04:03] <airlia> I'll try the disk check, thanks guys!
[04:03] <Losha> aspidites: memtest is a standalone bootable binary that you boot into *instead* of linux. It does a very thorough exercise of RAM if you let it run long enough. You can't combine it with fsck, it's meant for testing memory....
[04:03] <ouyes> after updating, there are two kernels in the grub startup option, how to get rid of the old one ?
[04:04] <sortremord> what is the boot kernel option for loading the basic VESA video driver?
[04:04] <scunizi> flacom: if there is a router between them then check the setup in the router.. most have a vpn setup section so it will pass the request to the internal IP of the machine you're trying to reach.
[04:04] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta
[04:04] <aspidites> Losha: rather, i meant the option for memtest is in the bios. at least its in mine. though, i do vaguely remember it being a boot option on ubuntu livecd
[04:04] <sacarlson> flacom I was just able to do this A and B on same network over wifi
[04:05] <sortremord> what is the boot kernel option for loading the basic VESA video driver?
[04:06] <flacom> sacarlson: I'm sure is the little detail, because I can ping from the clients A and B to the server, so  I need to forward the packages to the rest of the computers connected in the same network of the VPN
[04:06] <karpus> soreau: Uh... Not good, I tried adding it to the Opacity plugin but when I opened a torrent file, launching the dialog, the screen flickered and now ~35% of my screen is just black. I also saw Docky complaining about compositing being disabled or something like that (after the flickering)
[04:07] <soreau> karpus: Check that compiz is running, it may have crashed. Set to None and back again in sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects
[04:07] <Losha> aspidites: I don't know if there are bios resident versions of memtest, many bioses will do some kind of cursory memory test at bootup, but the memtest I'm talking about is the boot option and it really needs to run overnight. If airlia sees a hang or other errors running memtest, we'll know it's a hardware issue....
[04:08] <aspidites> Losha: ah
[04:08] <Nichod> Well anyone knowledgeable know why Ubuntu 9.04 would install fine, but 9.10 wouldn't?
[04:08] <Nichod> Everytime I downloaded a 9.10 image it had an error in one file. And would cut off mid-installation.
[04:08] <Sorhan> ok ... finally able to mount shares that I need to on the windows machine, how can I make a script that on connection to my "home" network it mounts those directories?
[04:09] <loops> Nichod, different kernels, probably a regression.   What hardware are you on, and what do you mean by "doesn't install" ?
[04:09] <scunizi> Nichod: you burning the cd as slow as you can?
[04:09] <developer> Vantrax: so did u see the new awn??
[04:09] <sacarlson> flacom do you mean you want A and B and C to see each other over VPN?
[04:09] <bazhang> Nichod, the md5 sum fails?
[04:09] <Nichod> loops: it would simple say that an error occurred during installation (check harddrive, makesure CD fine, etc.)
[04:09] <Losha> Nichod: my first guess would be a bad burn with the 9.10 cd. Does the CD pass md5sum?
[04:09] <bazhang> Nichod, you may wish to try a torrent if os
[04:10] <Nichod> burned at 4x.
[04:10] <karpus> soreau: Ok, I think it's working again
[04:10] <Nichod> md5 sum was fine on all
[04:10] <Ziber> !cron
[04:10] <Nichod> i attempted 4 installations.
[04:10] <bazhang> Nichod, then I would suggest the alternate installer
[04:10] <flacom> scunizi: saddly, I got a crappy router... no VPN options
[04:10] <Nichod> i'm thinking of just upgrading a jaunty install.
[04:10] <Vantrax> developer, going to play with it on the weekend
[04:10] <flacom> sacarlson, yes
[04:11] <loops> Nichod, you might want to try installing from a USB thumb drive instead of CD
[04:11] <Nichod> just odd that the disk check said that an error was found.
[04:11] <scunizi> flacom: well you can try to portforward from the server to the machine you're trying to reachh
[04:11] <Nichod> in one file.
[04:11] <sdwrage> Hey guys, what file do I need to edit to add paths like JAVA_HOME
[04:11] <sacarlson> flacom I never played with that but I did see there was an option to configure so that other clients could see each other
[04:11] <developer> Vantrax: thats good...one best feature is that the GNOMENU is integrated with it
[04:11] <scunizi> Nichod: try burning an iso download using the torrent download option
[04:12] <Obsidian1723-2> How can I fix broken dependancies?
[04:12] <Nichod> loops: i tried installing with wubi, used unetbootin to create a usb burn, downloaded direct from ubuntu.com and downloaded a torrent.
[04:12] <XVirus> How can I prevent a user from mounting USB flash disks ?
[04:12] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta.
[04:12] <flacom> scunizi: I have setup the router to forward the VPN packages to the vpn server
[04:12] <Nichod> all of them resulted in a error in one file and a error during install (desktop version)
[04:12] <developer> Nichod: what about the checksum..?? if its ok then try booting from a usb
[04:12] <tweaksource> sdwrage, http://sanaulla.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/setting-java_home-in-ubuntu/
[04:12] <Nichod> developer: as i said i tried booting from a USB and the checksum was fine
[04:13] <developer> Nichod: then whats the issue,,??
[04:13] <Blue11> XVirus: make him a desktop user -- iirc they can't issue a sudo
[04:13] <Nichod> oddly enough the usb created with 9.10 didn't even work.
[04:13] <scunizi> flacom: you might also need to have the vpn server continue the forward to the machine you're trying to reach..
[04:13] <loops> Nichod, when you say "error in one file", were you getting an error message?
[04:13] <loops> Nichod, something isn't adding up.
[04:13] <developer> Nichod: y..?? is the machine a new one???
[04:13] <flacom> scunizi: that is... but I don't know how to do it
[04:13] <Nichod> loops: the error in 1 file was when scanning the disc for errors
[04:13] <tweaksource> ANyone know how to configure fluxbox apps file?
[04:13] <XVirus> Blue11: I'm not talking about manual mounting ... but automatic one
[04:14] <Nichod> loops: using the built in scan tool on the disc
[04:14] <loops> Nichod, which disk, the USB thumb drive?
[04:14] <Blue11> XVirus: don't know how to disable that ---
[04:14] <XVirus> Blue11: I disabled automatic mount already .. but the user can still mount the device when he clicks on it on nautilus's side pane
[04:14] <scunizi> flacom: that's where I'll have to pass it to someone that knows more about vpn and the server side setup.. If there's no answer here. try in ##linux
[04:14] <Losha> Nichod: you understand that an md5sum check of the iso is not the same as an md5sum check of the burned disk? You need to do the latter....
[04:14] <kronosx1> i have a question, does anyone here have a acer aspire one netbook?
[04:14] <Blue11> XVirus: hmmm
[04:15] <Nichod> loops: i technically tried installing 5 times. two of them using a CD and both times i checked the CD it said it had a file with an error. and it was from two different download locations that had sums checked
[04:15] <sdwrage> tweaksource, thx but figured it out :) ~/.profile
[04:15] <Blue11> kronosx1: yes I have one
[04:15] <tweaksource> sdwrage, Cool.
[04:15] <kronosx1> ok, i am a ubuntu noob, how would i go about formatting the entire HD to reinstall XP using the restore disk.
[04:16] <loops> Nichod, sometimes the disk-check does mess up.   But lets ignore that for a second, what happened when you installed from USB thumb drive?
[04:16] <tweaksource> kronosx1, gparted, delete all.
[04:16] <developer> kronosx1: u can use the live cd of ubuntu to format the harddisk
[04:16] <Blue11> kronosx1: as part of the install options - that is one of the options - just choose all of the disc
[04:16] <maco> kronosx1: the windows install disc should offer to do it for you
[04:16] <Nichod> loops: it wouldn't even read from the USB drive.
[04:16] <Nichod> loops: 9.04 ran from same usb drive fine.
[04:16] <Blue11> developer: well the usb start drive remember netbooks have no optical drives by defination
[04:16] <tweaksource> Windows install disk won't touch ext3
[04:17] <Losha> Nichod: do you still have the 9.10 cd you burned?
[04:17] <loops> Nichod, my guess is you're having more than one problem.
[04:17] <kronosx1> the windows install disk actually is just a restore disk that is a copy of a stock hd. i think i have a xp disk somewhere.
[04:17] <kronosx1> ill try that and see what happens.
[04:17] <developer> tweaksource: windows installation can delete ext3 partitions
[04:18] <Blue11> windows gets dicey over mbr ownership
[04:18] <loops> Nichod, i would ignore the disk-check and proceed with install, if it gives you an error, work from there
[04:18] <tweaksource> developer, Ok. I've never seen it recognize one.
[04:18] <what> Blue11: what u talkin about.
[04:18] <loops> Blue11, Windows gets territorial over mbr ownership
[04:18] <Nichod> loops: probably. just happy 9.04 is installed. just wondering if any known issues with 9.10 and hardware exist. any significant ones. i did do a search and came across other people that did the disk check and came up with the same error in a single file that had the same problem, but no one game a response to their problem on the forums.
[04:18] <sacarlson> flacom I think you need to add --client-to-client   to your openvpn command line or client-to-client  to your openvpn config file to enable internal routeing
[04:18] <Blue11> loops: what I said...
[04:19] <what> i've installed windows several thousand times, and linux at least triple that
[04:19] <developer> tweaksource: it will show the ext3 partitions as unrecognized...but we can easily delete it
[04:19] <loops> Blue11, you said it too gently :o)
[04:19] <loops> what, me too
[04:19] <kronosx1> yeah, the restore disk i have installs windows as though it is a 1:1 copy of my HD.  I stand corrected.
[04:19] <Blue11> kronosx1: the first thing I did was reformat the hd --
[04:19] <developer> tweaksource: even from a running windows we can see the partitions as unknown and healthy :)
[04:20] <BitWraith> how do I search for a package with apt?
[04:20] <kronosx1> i used  the restore disk last night and it gave me a grub error. cant remember what one.
[04:20] <scunizi> BitWraith: apt-cache search <search term>
[04:20] <tweaksource> True, but  I usually only see ntfs from Ubuntu.
[04:20] <Blue11> BitWraith: apt-cache search <packagename?
[04:20] <kronosx1> will do, i have a xp disk i just found and ill give that a try.
[04:20] <tweaksource> developer,  I forget.
[04:20] <Blue11> apt-cache search <packagename>
[04:20] <what> sigh
[04:20] <BitWraith> thanks
[04:20] <tweaksource> developer, Only have Win in VBox now.
[04:20] <what> blue, one can use multiple search terms btw
[04:20] <what> and it does not have to be package name
[04:21] <developer> tweaksource: ok..
[04:21] <what> it can be any term also in the full description iirc
[04:21] <Nichod> loops: how about any issues with scsi drives and karmic?
[04:21] <Blue11> what: i think it will take any regular expression
[04:21] <deusr> The  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitechsite is showing that my webcam works with the driver gpsca, but how do I find out which module is?
[04:21] <what> Blue11: possibly, not tried that ;)
[04:21] <Nichod> lopos: just trying to make sure if i do a jaunty update it will work (and i meant jaunty not karmic)
[04:21] <flacom> sacarlson: I'm not using openvpn
[04:21] <deusr> is longitech deluxe notebook
[04:21] <flacom> sacarlson: I'm using poptop
[04:21] <sdwrage> Hey guys, When I add something to ~/.profile, is it available right away???
[04:21] <Nichod> a search hasn't come across anything loops
[04:21] <loops> Nichod, yes someone earlier complained of issue installing with SCSI cdrom, and had to go to USB
[04:22] <sacarlson> flacom oh sorry
[04:22] <nickgarvey> sdwrage, you probably need to source it.  Type "source ~/.profile"
[04:22] <Blue11> i had problems with wifi connectivitiy - so I had to backport - then the connectivity problems went away -
[04:22] <Nichod> loops: well it's a scsi hd
[04:22] <Losha> Blue11: yes, man apt-cache says that "search" will take a regexp....
[04:22] <loops> Nichod, could be a problem of course, it's a new kernel, there might be a regression
[04:22] <c_nick> using control alt and F1..5 takes me to cmd prompt.. and using the same combination with F7 takes me to the GUI mode.. but on a 845 mobo P4 and 1 GB ram pc at home.. crtl alt F7 takes me to a blank screen instead.. how can i reset and enter.. i tried with /etc/init.d start but it says fail ..i even reconfigured xserver-xorg but still same issue
[04:22] <developer> tweaksource: are u using VBOX OSE??
[04:22] <Blue11> Losha: i thought it would, but am too lazy to fire up a term window and do a man ;-)
[04:23] <nickgarvey> c_nick: I assume restarting is not an option?
[04:23] <Trek> Nichod: is your issue that Karmic isn't working with scsi?  if thats the case with the new kernel, you might issue a bug report
[04:23] <dude> i want to instlal ubuntu ,what can i  do?
[04:23] <Blue11> dude: on what using what?
[04:23] <Losha> Nichod: do you have a 9.10 cd or did you do a usb install?
[04:23] <nickgarvey> !install > dude
[04:23] <dude> yes
[04:23] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, uhhhh now I am getting this: The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[04:23] <sdwrage> sudo: command not found
[04:23] <dude> i ave a 9.10 cd
[04:24] <dude> but my computer .
[04:24] <what> sdwrage:
[04:24] <Blue11> sdwrage: what are you trying to do?
[04:24] <c_nick> nickgarvey: well i have to restart
[04:24] <tweaksource> developer, I don't think so. Not from the repos. Would it say OSE?
[04:24] <dude> no cd device
[04:24] <Obsidian1723-2> hey all... I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:24] <what> cat /etc/*release && cat /etc/*version
[04:24] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: sounds like your .profile is a little bit messed up :) mind pastebinning it?
[04:24] <sdwrage> Blue11, set an environment variable for GRAILS
[04:24] <what> what do you get? pastebin it
[04:24] <what> !pastebin
[04:24] <c_nick> nickgarvey: otherwise nothing seems to work.. even the live cd takes a whole lot of time .. i am running Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix Edition
[04:24] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I cant open it....
[04:24] <developer> tweaksource: from the repos the give OSE-OpenSourceEdition
[04:24] <fredoslack> re hello :)
[04:24] <sdwrage> sudo is not working now
[04:25] <developer> tweaksource: you might have taken from SUN's site
[04:25] <Blue11> sdwrage: try logging off then back on - and see if that fixes it
[04:25] <victor__> anybody knows an alarm software playing mp3?
[04:25] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: so your terminal is down? are you able to open gedit?
[04:25] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: using the gui that is
[04:25] <victor__> anybody knows an alarm software playing mp3? (for kde)
[04:25] <sdwrage> lemme try that
[04:25] <julio_> br
[04:25] <flacom> scunizi: yes, I'm in the networking channel, but I think is too late :P
[04:25] <Blue11> victor__: mp3 - dunno wav yes.. kontact will to that
[04:26] <Trek> julio_ are you looking for #ubuntu-br?
[04:26] <tweaksource> developer, It is not OSE. I did download from Sun. Why do you ask?
[04:26] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:26] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: the latest beta?
[04:26] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ok now I saved it back to where it should be
[04:26] <Obsidian1723-2> scun yeah
[04:26] <developer> tweaksource: i heard that the OSE version doesnt support USB sharing yet...wanted to know whether if they corrected it or not
[04:27] <sdwrage> basically reverted my changes and still no go
[04:27] <Trek> Obsidian1723-2, this is why people usually wait for the stable versions to be released as there are bugs in betas
[04:27] <Blue11> Obsidian1723-2: have you tried a sudo apt-get purge ?
[04:27] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: reverting your changes still doesn't let you use sudo?
[04:27] <Obsidian1723-2> blue, not yet
[04:27] <Trek> Obsidian1723-2, and I think Blue11's idea might help
[04:27] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, nope.....
[04:27] <sdwrage> gave me a bunch of errors
[04:27] <sdwrage> hold on ill pastebin
[04:27] <tweaksource> developer, Last I tried (a few months ago) there was no USB support. That's why I use the other.
[04:27] <Losha> victor__: perhaps kalarm (disclaimer: I don't run kde)
[04:27] <edday> how to modify UNR 9.10 login window? i want   username and password all needed , not show username. Login screen settings has little options and it's useless.
[04:27] <c_nick> i tried removing compiz and compiz-core but then when i go in the netbook remix desktop everything lags.. but in normal desktop it seems to work well
[04:27] <Obsidian1723-2> I tried purge, even with -f and no go
[04:28] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: hang on I think there is a ppa for that.. or install shiriko (spelling?) which is 3.5.. I have the latest 3.6 but it's auto updated.. hang on
[04:28] <Trek> scunizi: you thinking Shiretoko?
[04:28] <thechris> need help with dvd playback.
[04:28] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: you might need to go into single user mode depending on your errors, do you know what that is or should I find some links about it?
[04:28] <Blue11> c_nick: i don't run compiz on a netbook - not designed for that...
[04:28] <developer> tweaksource: ok...by the way do you customize your distro....are you a customize maniac like me??
[04:28] <Obsidian1723-2> scun, can I paste you the error?
[04:28] <c_nick> edday: in Systems -> Adminstation ->login screen
[04:28] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, http://pastium.org/view/82668ca95367d42005dcb9bef8ed2f31
[04:28] <Blue11> c_nick: netbook works well with metacity....
[04:28] <c_nick> so Blue11 just removing compiz and compiz core worked for you ?
[04:29] <tweaksource> thechris, http://www.medibuntu.org/
[04:29] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, it happened after you told me to do source ~/.profile
[04:29] <Blue11> c_nick: I never installed them...
[04:29] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: run that command again
[04:29] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I did  that already
[04:29] <sdwrage> meaning after I reverted
[04:29] <sdwrage> I redid source
[04:29] <sdwrage> and still... no go
[04:29] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and it did complete without errors?
[04:29] <tweaksource> good night, all
[04:29] <scunizi> Trek: Obsidian1723-2 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily
[04:30] <sdwrage> yeah it completed without errors
[04:30] <Blue11> c_nick: you should be able to select system/preferences/appearance/visual effects/none
[04:30] <Obsidian1723-2> scun replace my current PPA with that one?
[04:30] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: the errors you pasted, that is whenever you open up a terminal?
[04:30] <c_nick> Blue yes i did that also i did sudo aptitude remove compiz compiz-core and also removed an additional package under compiz in Package Manager.. now.. i want to know after updating etc.. will it give me problems.. or am i supposed to upgrade my comp.i want to work and dont want to lose my work so taking extra precautions
[04:30] <Trek> Obsidian: no, add it in addition to the current ppa
[04:30] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, oh wait... that was the errors from source
[04:30] <sdwrage> sorry
[04:30] <c_nick> Blue11: yes i did that also i did sudo aptitude remove compiz compiz-core and also removed an additional package under compiz in Package Manager.. now.. i want to know after updating etc.. will it give me problems.. or am i supposed to upgrade my comp.i want to work and dont want to lose my work so taking extra precautions
[04:31] <Trek> Obsidian: just incase something goes screwy
[04:31] <thechris> what else is needed for dvd playback than libdvdcss2?
[04:31] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ok, that is good in that we know the errors were in your .profile file
[04:31] <edday> no, it is useless, it has only 2 options, 1st is  Show the screen for choosing who will login in,  2nd is login as *** automatically
[04:31] <c_nick> Blue11: but then why does CTRL ALT F7  give me blank screen
[04:31] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, but I took the two lines I added at the end out
[04:31] <developer> thechris: install w32codecs too
[04:31] <sdwrage> and saved
[04:31] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: can you rename .profile to .profile_bak and reopen bash?
[04:31] <Blue11> c_nick: I don't know - like I said, I never installed it on a net book but usually choosing none disables compiz but leaves it installed -
[04:31] <sdwrage> k
[04:31] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: not sure what ppa you have.. there's more to the address for the repo listing.. and you'll have to import the pgp key.. google PPA ubuntu mozilla
[04:32] <s> hi
[04:32] <c_nick> Blue11: ok
[04:32] <c_nick> thanks
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> Id love to google, but without Firefox.... how?
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
[04:32] <Obsidian1723-2> thats what I have now
[04:32] <Trek> Obsidian1723-2: terminal -> w3m
[04:32] <Trek> that lets you surf the interwebz
[04:32] <Blue11> c_nick: the great thing about linux - you are your own sys admin - the bad thing about linux - you are your own sys admin
[04:32] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: hey you can try firefox 3.6 from mozillas website
[04:33] <ardchoille> Blue11: indeed
[04:33] <scunizi> Obsidian1723-2: that's the ppa I have.. it seems to update daily.. with FF open click Help/About to see what version.. mine now says Namoroka
[04:33] <edday> no other options, does UNR simplify that utility?
[04:33] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, done
[04:33] <c_nick> Blue11: :)
[04:33] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and luck? can you sudo and all of that?
[04:33] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: any luck*
[04:33] <Walrus23> i want to return to the original ubuntu, after converting to kubuntu and not liking it i want to go back
[04:33] <sdwrage> nope :(
[04:33] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: just download the tar.gz file extract it and run firefox script inside that
[04:33] <Walrus23> i cant figure out how
[04:33] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: what error do you get?
[04:33] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, no :\
[04:33] <Blue11> okay taking a break bbl...how that helps some c_nick
[04:33] <c_nick> Blue11: what your hardware description
[04:33] <Obsidian1723-2> Can someone give me the direct Deb download for Firefox 3.6? I can wget it
[04:33] <Walrus23> please2help
[04:33] <sdwrage> hold on
[04:33] <ardchoille> !puregnome | Walrus23
[04:33] <sdwrage> sdwrage@sdwrage-desktop:/usr$ sudo nano
[04:33] <sdwrage> Command 'sudo' is available in '/usr/bin/sudo'
[04:33] <sdwrage> The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[04:33] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: there is no need of .deb
[04:34] <sdwrage> ick sorry about that
[04:34] <FloodBot1> sdwrage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <scunizi> Walrus23: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop then follow the link I'll have ubottu send you a link to remove kde
[04:34] <Obsidian1723-2> tar.gz then?
[04:34] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: just download the tar.gz file
[04:34] <sdwrage> yeah I know floodbot sheesh
[04:34] <scunizi> !puregnome | Walrus23
[04:34] <Walrus23> ugh, i want to be able to run both
[04:34] <developer> Obsidian1723-2: there is no need to compile it
[04:34] <developer> Obsidian1723-2:
[04:34] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ^^
[04:34] <Walrus23> but i want to swap completely back to gnome for a little while
[04:34] <scunizi> Walrus23: oh.. then just install ubuntu-desktop and on the login screen change "sessions"
[04:35] <Walrus23> ahh
[04:35] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: did you edit /etc/environment?
[04:35] <Walrus23> then i lick on the settings menu and it doesnt like me
[04:35] <Walrus23> click**
[04:35] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: regardless, can you pastebin the contents of that file?
[04:35] <Walrus23> wireless keyboard ftl
[04:35] <edday> Is Login Screen Settings in UNR different from desktop edition?
[04:35] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, sure
[04:35] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: if it is only one line paste it in here
[04:36] <thechris> developer, the guide at mediabuntu fails.  from what I recall, this was a lot easier last year
[04:36] <airtonix> Walrus23, once you install kde on a system running gnome, you cen never get rid of it without much pain
[04:36] <Walrus23> ahh
[04:36] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, what does source do anyways?
[04:36] <Walrus23> i should have fesized the partitions and separated them -.-
[04:36] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, http://pastium.org/view/24c7de02f37b074332de298e2466b551
[04:37] <airtonix> Walrus23, or you should have tried it in a virtual machine first
[04:37] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: it reads the file for your shell, when you make changes to .bashrc or the like, source is used to update the shell with the information in that file
[04:37] <Out_Cold> why does ln -s /path/to/file /usr/bin/file produce this??    ls: cannot access /usr/bin/file: Too many levels of symbolic links
[04:37] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: is that your /etc/environment?
[04:37] <thechris> and now I get "software index is broken"
[04:37] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: because if it is then that is clearly the problem
[04:37] <Walrus23> nnngh ona 1.6GHz mobile centrino lapto, you're pushing it to run xVM to play with windows 3.1, let alona a virtual ubuntu install
[04:38] <airtonix> Out_Cold, first assumption : your target is already a symbolic link ?
[04:38] <Walrus23> nvm
[04:38] <Out_Cold> airtonix, ok that's very possible
[04:38] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I echoed my $PATH and it gave me GRAILS/bin....
[04:38] <Walrus23> there was one other thing, but i've forgotten
[04:39] <thechris> NO_PUBKEY
[04:39] <sdwrage> so apparently I overwrote my $PATH
[04:39] <DARKGuy> Hey, I have a 9800GTX+ and ubuntu insists on installing 18X drivers when there are 195.X drivers available. Does anybody know a way to force it? I installed it yesterday through the .bin installer + nvidia-xconfig and today it is like if I hadn't installed it before :/
[04:39] <sdwrage> is there an easy way to reset $PATH?
[04:39] <Walrus23> oh yea, easy/difficuilt/impossible to run ubuntu on a G4 eMac?
[04:39] <sdwrage> maybe I should try to restart...
[04:39] <deusr> someone help me? I've tested all modules gspca and still getting the message Camera not found
[04:39] <Obsidian1723-2> Ok got ff downloaded, now what?
[04:39] <Walrus23> as well as mac OS
[04:39] <Out_Cold> airtonix, hmm.. file 'file' gives 'file' : POSIX shell script text executable
[04:39] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: that is what the /etc/environment is for, did you pastebin me the contents of that file or was that ~/.profile
[04:39] <thechris> what are all the apt-sources files?
[04:40] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: Uninstall the 18X thing first in Hardware Drivers (if you haven't done that).
[04:40] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, yes
[04:40] <thechris> There is a repository not in sources.list
[04:40] <sdwrage> http://pastium.org/view/24c7de02f37b074332de298e2466b551
[04:40] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: I never installed it in first place :P
[04:40] <thechris> and i need it to not be anywhere
[04:40] <XVirus> How can I prevent normal users from mounting usb flash disks ?
[04:40] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: but it insists on downloading it when I try to enable compiz :(
[04:40] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: that was /etc/environment? if it was then could you open that file up for editing?
[04:40] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: Oh really? That is crazy. :\
[04:40] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: totally o.O
[04:40] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, no its not... it was ~/.profile
[04:41] <Out_Cold> XVirus, remove them from the mounting group.. usually this is auto disabled i think
[04:41] <scunizi> XVirus: there's probably a group you can remove them from
[04:41] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ah, what is /etc/environment?
[04:41] <sdwrage> hold on..
[04:41] <XVirus> Out_Cold: scunizi: what is the name of the group ?
[04:41] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: and duh! it had 173 enabled :/
[04:41] <DARKGuy> wtf with nvidia and ubuntu, their drivers are always outdated :(
[04:41] <Out_Cold> XVirus, not too sure... will look now
[04:41] <thechris> well it seems instead of dvd playback, i broke apt
[04:41] <XVirus> plugdev ?
[04:41] <scunizi> XVirus: check out Out_Cold 's post just above mine
[04:41] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[04:41] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: See !latest for a reason.
[04:41] <thechris> Anyone know how to fix apt?
[04:42] <sdwrage> but I had a few things on the path like ruby, php, etc
[04:42] <DARKGuy> !latest
[04:42] <Obsidian1723-2> Scun, I have Firefox downloaded, now what?
[04:42] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: Ah I see XD. Well at least it's not debian<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Is there a way to have the latest of the latest ?
[04:42] <osirisx11> when i try to install mplayer it becomes broken because of libdvdpau: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-185-libvdpau 0:185.18.36-0ubuntu9
[04:42] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: try "source /etc/environment"
[04:42] <sdwrage> k..
[04:42] <Out_Cold> XVirus, it may be plugdev but i'd confirm this with someone else
[04:43] <XVirus> Out_Cold: it's not plugdev anyways
[04:43] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: For your Nvidia issues, you might want to try #nvidia -- Also, if you want to have latest of the latest (in everything), consider using ArchLinux at the least.
[04:43] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, perfect, that worked
[04:43] <deusr> hellow!!!
[04:43] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: I have, but it's a pain to maintain, so that's why I moved to Ubuntu to *use* the PC instead of tweak with it, but this is ridiculous.
[04:43] <sdwrage> now where should I be adding to path? I am trying to follow this installation article: http://www.grails.org/installation
[04:44] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: good, double check the .profile you were trying to use as there was some sort of error in it
[04:44] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ^^
[04:44] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ah ok one second
[04:44] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: and this isn't an nvidia issue, it's an *ubuntu* issue :/
[04:44] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, thx for the help btw
[04:44] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: yup
[04:44] <thechris> i need to un-update apt
[04:44] <thechris> Does anyone know how to un-update apt?
[04:45] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: It also does mean they might know how to overcome this *ubuntu* issue -- if that's an *ubuntu* issue or *nvidia* issue.
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: sudo apt-get --force-yes install libdvdpau
[04:45] <Out_Cold> XVirus, i'm pretty sure it's plugdev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[04:45] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: thanks for the fix but can you educate me a bit too?
[04:45] <Out_Cold> "or in a more flexible way, practical if you have several users, allow for instance the users in the plugdev group (usually those who are meant to be able to mount removable disks, desktop users) to create files and sub-directories on the disk:"
[04:45] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: well in that you're right, I guess I'll give it a shot
[04:46] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: And the fact that you said you moved to Ubuntu to *use* the PC, forget about 19X, just use the *d* thing. Don't tweak it. :-)
[04:46] <XVirus> Out_Cold: the user is not in plugdev and he can mount usb flash disks by clicking their icon in nautilus side pane
[04:46] <thechris> guess i'm not throwing out enough buzzwords
[04:46] <deusr> hellloo!
[04:46] <Out_Cold> XVirus, read the link
[04:46] <deusr> help me!
[04:46] <XVirus> Out_Cold: fine .. thanks
[04:46] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: what directory did you checkout grails from?
[04:46] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: well into I mean
[04:46] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: XD I would, but video drivers are very, -very- important for me to have updated :P.... software can stay on "stable" for all I care xD
[04:47] <loops> thechris, do you want to downgrade the application "apt"?
[04:47] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, currently it sits in ~/grails
[04:47] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: ~/grails?
[04:47] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: alright
[04:47] <Out_Cold> XVirus, what's the system on the flash? fat?
[04:47] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: E: Couldn't find package libdvdpau
[04:47] <XVirus> Out_Cold: yes
[04:47] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and can you confirm that ~/grails/grails/bin exists?
[04:47] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: yeah. that command will force the 'overwriting' of the already existing /usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1 file. however, if you ever remove the ' pnvidia-185-libvdpau' package, you system would still be expecting that file to be on it
[04:47] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, I will dbl check
[04:47] <Out_Cold> XVirus, what other groups is that user apart of?
[04:48] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, its ~/grails/bin
[04:48] <thechris> loops, no, i want to undo whatever added mediabuntu to apt's list of repositories
[04:48] <XVirus> Out_Cold: dialout, fax, cdrom, tape, audio, dip, video, netdev, sambashare
[04:48] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok, maybe it's libvdpau1, sorry
[04:48] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: alright, then add PATH="$HOME/grails/bin:$HOME/grails/ant/bin:$PATH"
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: sudo apt-get --force-yes install libdvdpau1
[04:48] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: to your profile
[04:49] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: .profile I mean
[04:49] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: and then source it
[04:49] <loops> thechris, okay..  try going into   system -> administration -> software sources    and remove that repo
[04:50] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. help, please
[04:50] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: no entries for anything starting with libdvdp
[04:50] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ok lemme try that
[04:50] <Out_Cold> XVirus, IIRC last time i made a seperate user, i had to su root to mount it.. as i wasn't in the plugdev group. maybe there are mounting permissions that are overriding the group?
[04:50] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: well just in case, this seems to fix it ^_^ -> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html
[04:50] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: hmmm, sorry. hang on. let me read the error message again!
[04:50] <XVirus> Out_Cold: could it be my /etc/sudoers ? .. give me a sec
[04:51] <thechris> loops, wow, that seems to have worked.  i wonder what non sources.list file it got that from?
[04:51] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, now I need to set JAVA_HOME
[04:51] <sdwrage> apparently thats not set... im guessing same spot?
[04:51] <loops> thechris, dunno.. but shouldn't be a problem
[04:51] <Out_Cold> XVirus, if they are in the sudoers file then i would assume that would override the plugdev
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: please try the following and tell me what you get....
[04:51] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: make sure java is install, it should be set automatically
[04:51] <scunizi> XVirus: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-disable-usb-mass-storage-device-usb-drive-in-linux-651262/
[04:51] <XVirus> Out_Cold: they user is very restricted in the sudoers file .. but let me check something
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> DARKGuy: Thanks for the head up.
[04:52] <thechris> loops, i still get "software index is broken"
[04:52] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, hrm good point :P
[04:52] <kbrosnan> Obsidian1723-2: sudo apt-get purge firefox xulrunner
[04:52] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ls libvdp*
[04:52] <DARKGuy> kinja-sheep: no prob :p
[04:52] <XVirus> scunizi: this isn't what I want
[04:52] <kbrosnan> Obsidian1723-2: then sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:52] <Obsidian1723-2> kb will try
[04:52] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: no matches
[04:52] <loops> thechris, at a command prompt type:    sudo apt-get install -f
[04:53] <XVirus> Out_Cold: it's not an /etc/sudoers issue :-(
[04:53] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: i'm not sure what's happening. the error message leads me to really believe that the following file exists on your system --> /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> wont let me purcge it
[04:54] <Silver_Swords> Obsidian1723-2: go to synaptic package manager, edit tab, click 'fix broken packages'
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> tried that
[04:54] <Out_Cold> XVirus, perhaps you can get the rclocal to remove the usb module?
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> sudo apt-get purge firefox xulrunner
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> Building dependency tree
[04:54] <thechris> loops, well, i don't really think it matters.  I can't get dvds to play.  I don't know why, i can play mpegs, have vlc, and have dvdcss
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> Reading state information... Done
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2>   firefox: Depends: firefox-branding but it is not going to be installed or
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2>                     abrowser-branding but it is not going to be installed
[04:54] <Obsidian1723-2>   firefox-3.5-branding: Depends: firefox-branding but it is not going to be installed
[04:54] <FloodBot1> Obsidian1723-2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I don't want to disable usb
[04:55] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: it actually didn't automatically do it for me, add this to your .profile (after install java): export JAVA_HOME=/usr/bin/java/
[04:55] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I'm setting a very restricted environment where the user can only mount a usb flash disk by double clicking a shell script on his desktop that mounts the thing in read only mode
[04:55] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: i know another way to try and fix this
[04:55] <sdwrage> nickgarvey, ok ill add that
[04:56] <julio_> Isnt RTL8187 driver supported by kismet?
[04:56] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier:   mplayer: Depends: libvdpau1 (>= 0.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:56] <Obsidian1723-2> :(
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok, try the --> apt-get -f install  .... then
[04:56] <XVirus> Out_Cold: any more clues ?
[04:57] <nickgarvey> sdwrage: hey I need to go, it looks like that should do it but if not then I'm sure someone else in here can help you out.  good luck
[04:57] <Out_Cold> i'm still stuck on the plugdev group.... not too sure where to go from there.
[04:57] <julio_> user of kismet, is the source driver RTL8187 not supported by kismet?
[04:57] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-185-libvdpau 0:185.18.36-0ubuntu9 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:57] <Obsidian1723-2> am I just hosed?
[04:58] <Out_Cold> XVirus, maybe a reboot after the removal of the plugdev group to initialize the change?
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: sudo mv /usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1 /usr/lib/libvdpau.so.1.old
[04:58] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I'm sure i did that :-(
[04:58] <XVirus> Out_Cold: a reboot is not even necessary
[04:59] <Out_Cold> i didn't think so :o/
[04:59] <thechris> meh, i've wasted all the time i care to on this.  I'll just use something that actually plays dvds for now and get this computer set up later
[04:59] <Out_Cold> XVirus, can i see a pastebin of the group and sudoers?
[04:59] <sdwrage> Hey guys... getting this path error... grails: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly; can not execute: /usr/bin/java//bin/java
[04:59] <sdwrage> any ideas?
[04:59] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: done, now try to install mplayer again?
[05:00] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I remove the user from sudoers so there is no need to check it
[05:00] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: yes.. try --> apt-get -f install
[05:00] <Out_Cold> oooh...... XVirus maybe remove the entry from /etc/mtab???
[05:00] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: still same error like apt-get is expecting it to be there regardless of whether it is there or not
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: strange. i'm not sure what to make of this
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: you're sure the following file is not on your system? --> /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:02] <sdwrage> anyone?
[05:02] <sdwrage> Hey guys... getting this path error... grails: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly; can not execute: /usr/bin/java//bin/java
[05:02] <XVirus> Out_Cold: the entry inside mtab is the one in my script that the user uses to mount
[05:02] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: it is
[05:02] <XVirus> Out_Cold: not the entry of the /media/drive
[05:03] <Losha> osirisx11: just edit /var/lib/dpkg/status (make a copy first) and remove the paragraph for  nvidia-185-libvdpau 0:185.18.36-0ubuntu9. This will make your system forget all about the nvidia package and should allow you do install mplayer....
[05:03] <XVirus> Out_Cold: I gtg now .. will be back in 30 minutes .. if you're not here by then .. I want to thank you a lot for your time
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: it is there??
[05:03] <sdwrage> nvm got it
[05:03] <sdwrage> :)
[05:03] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: yes
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok.. do the following --> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libvdpau1_0.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:04] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: then try to install mplayer again. bet it works this time
[05:04] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: i don't think it was earlier, pastebinning you
[05:04] <Obsidian1723-2> I have an issue I need some help with. It seems I have a broken package for Firefox. I was installing the beta. I have some dependancy issues. I've tried sudo apt-get -f install/purge/autoremove etc, all no go.
[05:04] <julio_> Hi guys!! Do you know how to make the rtl8187 drive work in the kismet???
[05:04] <Out_Cold> i'm going to eat.... please forward all my mail to ubottu
[05:05] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: ok
[05:05] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mc5fd17f
[05:05] <Out_Cold> julio_, use aircrack-utils.. more specifically the driver util... airdriver-ng maybe??
[05:05] <Out_Cold> now going
[05:06] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: that did work!
[05:06] <osirisx11> onetinsoldier: thanks!!
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: cool. thought it would
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: you're welcome. enjoy
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> osirisx11: :-)
[05:07] <julio_> Out_Cold, How can I use that "aircrack-utils"? I just know to use kismet and then aircrack, and the kismet is not identifying my drive
[05:08] <blakkheim> julio_: i really don't think you should be trying to use those tools without any knowledge of how to configure them
[05:08] <Out_Cold> i agree
[05:08] <julio_> blakkheim, i'm learning
[05:09] <Out_Cold> julio_, you aren't going to make any sense of what kismit spits out anyways
[05:09] <Obsidian1723-2> Well forcing the install worked
[05:09] <julio_> blakkheim, the problem is that the rtl8187 is not listed in the kismet site
[05:09] <blakkheim> julio_: learning would be reading the documentation, not asking questions that you can find the answers for yourself on their wiki/man pages
[05:09] <testink_> yay
[05:09] <Out_Cold> julio_, i was using the rtl8187 for monitoring... not kismet
[05:09] <julio_> blakkheim, my drive is not listed in the documentation, so I tried the mac80211 and it didn work
[05:10] <blakkheim> julio_: so then why are you still asking?
[05:10] <paissad> how can i grab the kernel version as named by www.kernel.org  ( for example <IP_ADDRESS>) instead of the conventionnal names that distributions use , for example, ubuntu would name his kernel (2.6.32-generic) & gentoo ( 2.6.32-foo) ... knowing that are the same kernels
[05:10] <Out_Cold> oh... no it won't work in the mac driver
[05:10] <julio_> blakkheim, Cause nothing has worked and I wanna see if you have the solution
[05:11] <blakkheim> julio_: if nothing has worked it's either over your head or not GOING to work.
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> paissad: you download the kernel from kernel.org. then you configure the kernel. then you compile it, and finally, install it
[05:11] <julio_> blakkheim, haha
[05:11] <paissad> onetinsoldier, i know how to do that, but that's not my question mate
[05:11] <julio_> blakkheim, well man I'm just trying to find something here
[05:11] <Out_Cold> julio_, start here http://forums.remote-exploit.org/general-discussion/18552-install-rtl8187-driver-ubuntu.html
[05:12] <Pelo> evening folks, anyone know a command to tell me the video driver i'M using ?
[05:12] <julio_> Out_Cold, thanks I'll take a look!
[05:12] <onetinsoldier> paissad: ok. sorry. guess i didn't quite know what you meant by 'grab'
[05:12] <paissad> onetinsoldier, how can we retreive the orginal kernel version without doing regexp on the uname -r | a
[05:12] <Out_Cold> and a heads up julio_ don't ask those wonderful people stupid questions or they will shun you
[05:13] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[05:13] <obscurant1st> hey I messed up with the sources list how can i revert ioit back to factory settings?
[05:14] <obscurant1st> now when i try to install firefox all those pre release things comes up
[05:14] <obscurant1st> i dont want that... :(
[05:14] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[05:14] <julio_> Out_Cold, Thanks for the tips!
[05:14] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, just remove the links that you added or # them out
[05:14] <Rubbberducky> Anyone know where to get drivers for my realtek audio?  Or how to make it work.  haha...
 i dont know which i hv added or how many i hv added.
[05:15] <obscurant1st> can i get it from internet i meant the default list?
[05:15] <obscurant1st> n btw # them out means?
[05:16]  * Rubbberducky hates realtek. :(
[05:16]  * reactor too
[05:16] <Rubbberducky> lol good
[05:16] <reactor> xD
[05:17] <Rubbberducky> does yours at least work??
[05:17] <Losha> onetinsoldier: I read it the same as you did. I wondered if there were any ubuntu-specific diffs applied to standard kernel for ubuntu?
[05:17] <reactor> Rubbberducky, yes
[05:17] <plouffe> In Hardware Drivers it says "Alternate Atheros madwifi driver" "This driver is activated but currently not in use". How can I make it be used?
[05:17] <troopperi> obscurant1st: wich version of ubuntu you use?
[05:17] <obscurant1st> karmic 9.10 trooperi
[05:18] <Rubbberducky> reactor: mine does not.  Did you have to DL drivers?
[05:18] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, here is my list from /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/m623169e8 and # means comment them out, or make the lines not read by your computer
[05:18] <reactor> Rubbberducky, I have realtek adsl router given me by isp, but it drops my connection if it thinks it's "overloaded"
[05:18] <onetinsoldier> Losha: i'm pretty sure there are
[05:18] <reactor> Rubbberducky, do u mean realtek soundcard?
[05:18] <IdleOne> plouffe: select it and click enable at the bottom of the window
[05:18] <Rubbberducky> Reactor: ohhh lame.  I have built in realtek audio. I hate it.
[05:18] <obscurant1st> thanks Out_Cold
[05:18] <obscurant1st> I will try with that..:D
[05:19] <plouffe> IdleOne, there is no enable button . Only close and Deactivate
[05:19] <reactor> Rubbberducky, no I didn't dl any driverz while I had builtin realtek: it woked
[05:19] <Rubbberducky> reactor: Well youre lucky. :(
[05:19] <plouffe> IdleOne, in the Hardware Drivers window
[05:19] <IdleOne> plouffe: not sure then sorry
[05:20] <dreki> is there a way to control what core a process runs on?
[05:20] <reactor> Rubbberducky, I zapped it with 220 by accident then it burnt and I bought external souncard :P
[05:20] <onetinsoldier> Losha: if you look at this page, over on the right, you'll see an 'orig' and 'diff' downloads --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-image-2.6.32-11-generic
[05:20] <Pelo> plouffe, what are you trying to do ?
[05:20] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i would compare the lists instead of copying from mine
[05:20] <obscurant1st> ooops..
[05:21] <obscurant1st> i aleady copied it..
[05:21] <obscurant1st> any problem?>?? :o
[05:21] <Losha> onetinsoldier: yeah, I see it mentions 'ubuntu patches'....
[05:21] <onetinsoldier> Losha: yep
[05:21] <Rubbberducky> Reactor: I have a beautiful Presonus Firestudio mobile audio interface that is not supported. :(
[05:21] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, well could be that you are using another distro or perhaps the servers are located half way around the world?
[05:21] <plouffe> Pelo trying to get my wifi to work
[05:21] <reactor> Rubbberducky, huh? wht is it?
[05:22] <Pelo> plouffe, ok, carry on, I can't help with that
[05:22] <Silver_Swords> anyone plays urban terror 4.1 here?
[05:22] <Rubbberducky> Reactor: Its a Firewire interface used for high quality recording with microphones
[05:22] <obscurant1st> ohh <Out_Cold> .. :(
[05:22] <scunizi> Rubbberducky: might be with "jack".. medibuntu repos will give you various higher end audio programs and "jack"
[05:22] <obscurant1st> anyway atleast it is working fine now i think
[05:22] <reactor> Rubbberducky, cool
[05:23] <Losha> paissad: I think the answer to your question is that the original string is lost when you set a new kernel name, so you'll have to use a regexp
[05:23] <obscurant1st> i did al these things for updating the firefox to 3.6
[05:23] <reactor> Rubbberducky, maybe it does need proprietary driv3z0rz?
[05:23] <obscurant1st> but i ended up in installing 3.6 pre
[05:23] <obscurant1st> :(
[05:23] <paissad> Losha, ok
[05:23] <Rubbberducky> scunizi: I am running Ubuntu Studio because it came with all those doo hickeys, I just dont have the slightest idea how to use them and I guess my interface isnt supported
[05:23] <obscurant1st> yuo have any idea on how to install this firefox 3.6?
[05:24] <sargento> Is there any command to view my CD drives, like lsusb or lspci?
?
[05:24] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i havent tried yet but why do you need 3.6?
[05:24] <obscurant1st> actually 1 cool option is ther with firefox and some more bla bla features..
[05:25] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, if you must install build-essentials then compile the 3.6 source from mozilla
[05:25] <scunizi> Rubbberducky: firewire sometimes requires different libraries to function.. I have a firewire pci card that functioned in 6.06 but doesn't in 8.10-9.04-9.10.. at least yet.. I use it for my camera
[05:25] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, or search for a 3.6 deb online...
[05:25] <obscurant1st> the cool thing is when i liked is when we hover over the firefox themes in the theme gallery the whole firefox changes to that theme, a nice preview feature.
[05:25] <obscurant1st> i liked it.
[05:25] <MikeGuo> sargento: why you need that command? your cdrom can't work?
[05:26] <Rubbberducky> proprietary: Its things like that that make me want to just use the built in sound.  that doesnt seem to work, lol.
[05:26] <tolpico> Would someone please help me install nvidia drivers on kubuntu? In hardware drivers dialog it doesnt show the drivers. How should I get it?
[05:26] <obscurant1st> its not available yet. i  mean the .deb.
[05:26] <obscurant1st> :(
[05:26] <Rubbberducky> scunizi**
[05:26] <MikeGuo> sargento:  may  be ls /dev/sdx something,  x point to sda or sdb.
[05:26] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, might not work the same way in linux if that was the windows version
[05:26] <ardchoille> tolpico: you need to askin #kubuntu
[05:26] <obscurant1st> oh.... :|
[05:26] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, build from source then.. it's easier than you think
[05:26] <sargento> MaikeGuo, that's right. It appears on Computer like CD Drive, I inserted an audio CD but It doesn't mount it
[05:26] <obscurant1st> any thats why i wanted to update to the new version.
[05:26] <MikeGuo> tolpico: you can downlosd from nv web site, and directly install it.
[05:27] <scunizi> Rubbberducky: understandable
[05:27] <MikeGuo> or just the software package manage for install nvidia  deb package.
[05:27] <sargento> MikeGuo,  that's right. It appears on Computer like CD Drive, I inserted an audio CD but It doesn't mount it. I double-cliked it but nothing happens
[05:27] <Maximo> hey guys I have Karmic 9:10 and I need to go back 8:04 LTS ...how do I do this?
[05:27] <obscurant1st> oh, i donno why i didnt think about that, btw from where can i download the firefox sources, if its not too much to ask,,
[05:28] <Maximo> new to all this...
[05:28] <obscurant1st> I'm also searchin, bt if you knw pls giv me the link
[05:28] <Losha> Maximo: you have to install 8.04 from scratch, there is no downgrade capability....
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> Maximo: you install 8.04 LTS fresh
[05:28] <PureKaoz> Sup?
[05:28] <Maximo> What just insert cd and thats it?
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> Maximo: are you just wanting the stability of an LTS release?
[05:29] <Maximo> no...
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> Maximo: why do you need 8.04? just curious...
[05:29] <Maximo> just screwed my system up
[05:29] <sacarlson> Maximo you might want to run Ubuntu 8.04 in Vertualbox in Ubuntu 9.1 , not sure why you want 8.04
[05:29] <PureKaoz> Hrm... Whats up?
[05:29] <Maximo> is the only one have available at the moment
[05:29] <Maximo> see?
[05:29] <Maximo> no more
[05:30] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i would start at firefox homepage
[05:30] <Silver_Swords> anyone having sound problems when playing urban terror 4.1 for linux?
[05:30] <ghthor_> I'm trying to move a linux system from one partition to another, its all contained in one partition. Everything kinda works but update-grub is still pointing to the old partition number for the kernels
[05:30] <Losha> Maximo: yes, just put in the cd and install. The catch is, you lose any 9.10 configuration. Save your /home somewhere safe if it has anything important in it.
[05:30] <Maximo> another question: suppose just wanna reinstall Karmic 9:10 how do I do that?
[05:30] <obscurant1st> Yeah I am doing it <Out_Cold>
[05:30] <obscurant1st> :D
[05:31] <obscurant1st> n now joined #firefox to ask this
[05:31] <obscurant1st> :D
[05:31] <Out_Cold> obscurant1st, i would assume that their topic would tell you such info
[05:32] <Maximo> Losha: nothing important just alittle program I run thats it...
[05:32] <Out_Cold> | Firefox 3.6 released http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/all.html |
[05:32] <Maximo> Losha: how do I back it up?
[05:32] <Losha> Maximo: same answer, put in the cd and install. Maybe I'm missing something, because the answer seems so simple?
[05:33] <Losha> Maximo: copy it somewhere: to a blank cd or dvd, or to a different disk, or to a spare partition. Depends on your hardware....
[05:33] <Maximo> Losha: I upgraded it from previous version into 9:10
[05:33] <munk> hey all. I just accidentally sudo make install a program and now it has to be run as root. I am willing to bet if I reran the install as a normal user it would fail trying to over write the existing files. Is there any way to go back?
[05:34] <Vishal__> Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 broadband issue
[05:34] <Vishal__> pppoeconf not connecting
[05:34] <Maximo> Losha: oh I see
[05:34] <Out_Cold> munk, you have to sudo make install....
[05:34] <Vishal__> any help pl?
[05:34] <wolter> hi, does anybody know why the ubuntu pastebin is now private?
[05:35] <MikeGuo> Vishal_: what's that? I mean your problem.
[05:35] <munk> Out_Cold, but now the program has to be run as root. It never did before.
[05:35] <Vishal__> pppoeconf not connecting
[05:35] <Out_Cold> munk, change the permissions of the /usr/bin/file to 777
[05:35] <Out_Cold> munk, that's assuming that you want anyone to access it
[05:35] <MikeGuo> Vishal__: did you make sure you did the correct configuration?
[05:35] <munk> what about the permissions of all its dependencies?
[05:35] <IdleOne> wolter: what do you mean by private?
[05:35] <MikeGuo> and any logs?
[05:35] <munk> or will it grant access?
[05:35] <Out_Cold> munk, just the bin
[05:36] <munk> ok, thanks!
[05:36] <Losha> Maximo: it's ok to ask beginner questions here...
[05:36] <Maximo> you know it's
[05:36] <munk> Oh, I know this is the wrong channel but is anyone here having trouble with transcoder? it fails to load the export modules
[05:36] <Out_Cold> munk, do a "locate 'file' | grep bin"
[05:36] <wolter> IdleOne, that you need a login to use them
[05:37] <IdleOne> wolter: paste.ubuntu.com does not require a login
[05:37] <chipgeri> i installed eclipse from software center. now hao to add PDT to it?
[05:37] <Losha> munk: if it's a ubuntu app, it's ok to ask about it here. Which export modules?
[05:38] <munk> the xvid codec fails to load
[05:38] <munk> and the ffmpeg codec
[05:39] <munk> it was working fine before Koala
[05:39] <Losha> munk: When you say transcoder, do you mean transcode? Or some other app. Got an exact error message?
[05:39] <wolter> IdleOne, oh, looks like they fixed it
[05:39] <munk> I even recompiled transcoder (ie the make install)
[05:39] <munk> sorr, transcode
[05:39] <sargento> My Ubuntu 9.10 doesnt mount automatically my Audio CD, aby clue?
[05:40] <munk> [export_xvid4.so] v0.0.6 (2007-08-11) (video) XviD 1.0.x series (aka API 4.0) | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM
[05:40] <munk> [export_xvid4.so] warning: Encoder initialization failed
[05:40] <munk> [encoder.c] warning: video export module error: init failed
[05:40] <munk> [transcode] critical: failed to init encoder
[05:40] <FloodBot1> munk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:40] <Billiard> sargento: audio cd's are not mounted, they dont have a filesystem
[05:40] <Out_Cold> Billiard, isn't the iso mounted?
[05:40] <munk> I have tried xvid version 1.0.2 and version 1.2.2
[05:41] <sargento> Billiard, Sorry, I don't know the right term but I cant listen to my CD I just inserted.
[05:41] <Billiard> sargento: which player are you trying to use?
[05:41] <Losha> munk: which os version?
[05:41] <munk> Karmic Koala
[05:41] <Pelo> those the live cd have a menu option for memcheck ?
[05:42] <Awesome3000> Yes
[05:42] <Awesome3000> I think so
[05:42] <Out_Cold> Pelo, if you are asking if ubuntu live cd has memcheck then yes
[05:42] <jake_> Alt tab has decided to stop working.  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:42] <Pelo> Out_Cold, yes that's what I was asking,  it'S been awhile so I didn' trememer
[05:42] <Losha> munk: you might need the medibuntu version. The standard version is missing mp3 because of licensing issues. www.medibuntu.org
[05:42] <sargento> Billiard, I tried Sound Juicer, I checked on Computer and there it appear as CD Drive but I cannot access to the content of it
[05:42] <Ari_Lazarus_> Hey, is OpenGL included by default in Jaunty?
[05:43] <munk> I just built transcode version 1.1.5 with no errors
[05:43] <Awesome3000> Pelo: just checked 9.04 has on the main menu
[05:43] <munk> and I installed the 'lame' packages that transcode uses for mp3
[05:43] <Out_Cold> munk, do you have gstreamer good/bad/ugly pluggins?
[05:43] <Pelo> thanks Awesome3000
[05:43] <tim> unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3 in firefox can anyone tell me what this means or how to fix it
[05:43] <munk> it was working just fine in Heron
[05:44] <Pelo> munk, need to play mp3  ?   install lame
[05:44] <Losha> munk: dunno then. Try googling the error message....
[05:44] <munk> yea, googled the hell out of it
[05:44] <Billiard> sargento: maybe you need to choose your drive in the sound juicer preferences
[05:44] <munk> tried posting on the transcode newsgroup but it seems to be blocking my posts :S
[05:45] <Out_Cold> munk, sudo apt-get install gnome-restricted-extras?
[05:45] <Out_Cold> ooh.. ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:46] <sargento> Billiard, thanks Billiard, it worked with my DVD Drive, I think the problem is on CD Drive.
[05:46] <Billiard> sargento: ok np
[05:46] <Ari_Lazarus_> !opengl
[05:46] <munk> I have all the gstreamer plugins
[05:46] <Ari_Lazarus_> :(
[05:46] <Losha> !medibuntu
[05:47] <munk> is there any program that uses the xvid encoder that I can test? to make sure it is transcode and not xvid?
[05:47] <Out_Cold> munk, vlc plays anything
[05:47] <osirisx11> almost every day at least once a day, my wifi drops and refuses to come back until i do an ifconfig down/up on it, then it works fine again for the next day or so. any ideas?
[05:47] <tim> unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3 how can i fix this or what does it mean
[05:48] <Linux-CLI> hi
[05:48] <Linux-CLI> Does the Creative Commons License allow for printing? (eg, a WikiBook from Wikipedia)
[05:48] <Losha> munk: ffmpeg, mencoder, dvdrip. But seriously, check out medibuntu first...
[05:48] <Pelo> Linux-CLI, not sure this is the right place to ask
[05:48] <Fudge> using 8.10 how can you update to gnome 2.29 from 2.26.1
[05:49] <osirisx11> Linux-CLI: i am pretty sure it does, ask #wikipedia
[05:49] <Losha> osirisx11: I think you're lucky you have a workaround...
[05:49] <effigy> /topic
[05:49] <Windopain> what kind of hoops do i need to jump through in order to force numlock on at startup and after login?  basically, i always want numlock on
[05:50] <Myke1> isnt Numlock a Bios thing?
[05:50] <Myke1> on my Motherboard it is
[05:50] <osirisx11> Losha: not an acceptable answer my friend
[05:51] <Losha> Windopain: apt-cache search numlock talks about something called numlockx
[05:51] <Out_Cold> Windopain, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[05:51] <Windopain> thx
[05:51] <Losha> osirisx11: good luck with that...
[05:51] <Linux-CLI> osirisx11: Asked there, they aren't helpful :S
[05:51] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[05:51] <tim> hi can someone help me  in firefox i get unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3 what can i do to fix this
[05:52] <Awesome3000> !numlock | Windopain
[05:52] <osirisx11> Losha: my business is depending on internet access, you can't just expect a hack to be a solution
[05:53] <munk> why are applications in /usr/local/bin not found in the terminal?
[05:53] <Losha> munk: does your path include /usr/local/bin ?
[05:54] <munk> probably not, how do I add it?
[05:54] <Losha> osirisx11: in all seriousness, you're running a free OS. There are no warranties. You could write a shell script that runs ping periodically, and when it fails, does an ifconfig, I suppose....
[05:54] <infid> how come faillog doesn't show enteries, instead they go to auth.log by default in ubuntu?
[05:55] <osirisx11> Losha: :(
[05:55] <Losha> munk: running bash? Look for PATH in your .bashrc and add /usr/local/bin to it....
[05:56] <antonius> i got os x on sda2, XP on sda1, and would like to install ubuntu on sdb3....anyone know how this will work with grub and whatnot?  i would like to continue using XP's bootloader (so to not break it lol)
[05:57] <Pelo> antonius, when you install grub will overwrite the xp bootloader
[05:57] <tim> how can i fix the problem in firefox unknown property zoom declaration dropped line 3
[05:58] <antonius> pelo: yes i know...i think there is an option to install grub to the same partition as /
[05:58] <Pelo> antonius,  if you donT insall grub , you won'T be able to boot ubuntu because the xp boot loader won'T see it
[05:58] <onetinsoldier> tim: have you tried the #firefox channel?
[05:58]  * osirisx11 waves to mattgyver
[05:58] <khetti> how do i disable mouse accel in games? xset m 0 0 doesnt do jack
[05:58] <Pelo> antonius, grub need to install in the boot sector
[05:59] <Fudge> is it possible just to upgrade to a later gnome version with apt-get?
[05:59] <antonius> Pelo: that sux...guess it's linux virtualbox's for me...darn I really miss linux too
[05:59] <baz> question for ya, I have had to switch back to debian as i find that xubuntu is not stable enough for my use, however I have found that debian xfce install is missing the nice themes included with xubuntu 9.10, any one know where in the directory tree they are installed
[05:59] <Pelo> Fudge,  no , you only get fixes and stuff from the repos, you only get new version with new releases
[05:59] <tim> no i'm not very good at this
[05:59] <ardchoille> baz: Ask in #xubuntu
[05:59] <onetinsoldier> Fudge: you mean a version of gnome from a newer version of ubuntu?
[06:00] <baz> ha
[06:00] <Fudge> yes using 8.10
[06:00] <antonius> pelo: well, grub doesn't see OS X, for some reason, the chainloader option works fine with loading XP, but it seems it won't load my os x partition
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> Fudge: nope. i don't hink you can
[06:00] <onetinsoldier> Fudge: nope. i don't think* you can
[06:01] <Pelo> antonius, I don'T know about that part , you might want to ask in #grub but be very patient, it's not a busy channel
[06:01] <Losha> Fudge: that depends entirely on whether the ubuntu team bothered to put an upgraded version in the repository. Using synaptic, you should be able to see if there's a newer version available. If not, your only recourse is probably to compile it yourself, which would probably be a lot of work///
[06:01] <antonius> any mac users here?  does grub recognize ur os x partition?
[06:01] <Fudge> think might stear away from that thanks
[06:01] <antonius> pelos: thx again
[06:02] <Losha> Fudge: whats in the newer version that you can't live without?
[06:02] <Fudge> just fixes
[06:02] <justin_> has anyone tryed BURG?
[06:02] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[06:02] <sparky13> #xubuntu
[06:03] <sparky13> can some put a link in so I can get to the xubuntu irc?
[06:03] <ardchoille> sparky13: /join #xubuntu
[06:03] <Trek> #xubuntu sparky
[06:03] <sparky13> nothing happens when I click it lol :(
[06:04] <Losha> Fudge: well, gnome is actualyl a collection of apps. Some of them might have newer versions you can upgrade individually....
[06:04] <sparky13> nm ty
[06:04] <ardchoille> sparky13: typ ei what I poste
[06:04] <sparky13> got it :)
[06:05] <Ari_Lazarus_> Does anyone know if OpenGL is packaged with Ubuntu Jaunty? If not, is it in the repository?
[06:06] <Pelo> Ari_Lazarus_,  what you need to install is a driver package with glx in the name
[06:06] <Pelo> assuming the one you have installed doesnT' have it already
[06:07] <Ari_Lazarus_> Hmm. I do
[06:07] <Losha> Ari_Lazarus_: it's in hardy, so it's probably in jaunty. Try apt-cache search opengl
[06:07] <sparky13> #xubuntu
[06:07] <Ari_Lazarus_> glitz-glx1
[06:07]  * Pelo is gonna shut up now insase his advice leads to another disaster
[06:07] <IdleOne> sparky13: type /join #xubuntu
[06:07] <Speck> #xubuntu
[06:07] <Ari_Lazarus_> Must driver must be bonkers then.
[06:07] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: For intel and ati cards, the open source drivers provide opengl through mesa. With nvidia, you must install their proprietary driver
[06:07] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Are you having a problem with 3D?
[06:08] <Ari_Lazarus_> Minecraft
[06:08] <Ari_Lazarus_> If you've heard of it
[06:08] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Which card do you have?
[06:08] <Ari_Lazarus_> Some crappy Intel integrated card, let me check
[06:08] <Losha> Pelo: sometimes it all just goes horribly wrong. Even the pros make mistakes. Be glad you aren't a surgeon....
[06:12] <a_user> Hello
[06:12] <Pelo> !hi | a_user
[06:12] <MikeNorby> I was in here earlier this afternoon, about not being able to log in, got that fixed. Thanks you gus. :)
[06:12] <fynn> Hey, what's the best way to install Firefox 3.6 on Ubuntu?
[06:12] <a_user> How can I download these .ram audio files? http://www.banadir24.com/portal/islamic/quran/index.html
[06:12] <MikeNorby> guys :)
[06:13] <Pelo> fynn, wait two months for the next release
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> 1ST TIME HERE 4 UBUNTO
[06:13] <fynn> Pelo: not an option, unfortunately.
[06:13] <MikeNorby> But now, I can't seem to get my audio to work, and the drivers are correctly installed.
[06:13] <fynn> I need to install it some time over the next couple of days.
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> dont know how to  manage this
[06:13] <Pelo> fynn, binary from the ff website then
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> is anyone can help me
[06:13] <soreau> ! ask | sim-PAUL-guy
[06:13] <sim-PAUL-guy> can you help us
[06:14] <fynn> Pelo: OK, thought maybe there's a PPA for it.
[06:14] <Ari_Lazarus_> soreau: I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[06:14] <IdleOne> sim-PAUL-guy: help with what?
[06:14] <Awesome3000> sim-PAUL-guy: What's the trouble
[06:14] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: That is certainly not an intel card..
[06:14] <Ari_Lazarus_> :p
[06:14] <brandon-> how do youg et back into the gui once you hit shift alt f1 or whatever to get to the shell
[06:14] <Awesome3000> f7
[06:14] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Which version of ubuntu?
[06:14] <Ari_Lazarus_> jaunty
[06:14] <IdleOne> brandon-: ctrl-alt-F7
[06:14] <brandon-> Awesome3000, you directing f7 at me?
[06:14] <brandon-> ok thank you idleone
[06:15] <Pelo> a_user, not sure, that website seems a bit on the complicated side for someting that should be easy
[06:15] <IdleOne> brandon-: np
[06:15] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Then you probably will benefit significantly from a mesa upgrade
[06:15] <Awesome3000> brandon- : yea f7 is the gui one
[06:15] <Pelo> Ari_Lazarus_, check in the systeem > admin menu for restricted drivers manager,  see if there is a drie rfor you there
[06:16] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Assuming 'glxinfo|grep renderer' does not report Software Rasterizer
[06:16] <MikeNorby> Running ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook Pro, can't get audio to work. Internal mic, internal speakers, and plugged in headphones, but still no sound.
[06:16] <Ari_Lazarus_> I have a Mesa driver apparently?
[06:16] <Pelo> wasn'T there a special package for glx with ati cards ? someting with an f in the name
[06:17] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Yes, mesa provides 3D/OpenGL
[06:17] <Pelo> Ari_Lazarus_, you mean vesa ?
[06:17] <Pelo> nvm
[06:17] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: However you do have a lower end ati chip
[06:17] <Ari_Lazarus_> Mesa DRI R300 x86 / MMX / SSE2 NO-TCL
[06:18] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Check the performance in karmic and preferably after the Lucid release. If it has not improved, you can complain in #radeon
[06:18] <Ari_Lazarus_> It's not really the performance.. I just can't get the game to start :p
[06:18] <Ari_Lazarus_> (game is a Java applet)
[06:19] <blakkheim> ...
[06:19] <soreau> Ari_Lazarus_: Why do you think java needs opengl?
[06:19] <MikeNorby> Running ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook Pro, can't get audio to work. Internal mic, internal speakers, and plugged in headphones, but still no sound. Any suggestions to fix?
[06:19] <syrius> I am going to get a blu ray burner can ubuntu burn blu ray discs?
[06:19] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: Yes
[06:20] <syrius> cool
[06:20] <Ari_Lazarus_> Someone mentioned it in a forum thread that it might have something to do with opengl or that java graphics package lwjgl or however you spell it
[06:20] <soreau> ! who | Ari_Lazarus_
[06:20] <syrius> no special things required for it to work? Flare-Laptop
[06:20] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: I'm no tsure let me look it up
[06:21] <syrius> I know to play blu ray movies and such you do
[06:21] <syrius> but I don't care for that much
[06:21] <syrius> just want to burn mainly
[06:21] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[06:21] <IdleOne> syrius: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and see if what you are thinking of getting is supported.
[06:21] <syrius> plextor drive
[06:21] <syrius> well I have a plextor drive and it works
[06:21] <IdleOne> syrius: nice. now see if it is listed
[06:21] <syrius> it is the same plextor drive it just supports blu ray
[06:22] <syrius> I have the older one and it works
[06:22] <Explore2> Hi all, i need to install sun microsystems virtual box from site. can anyone please give me the exact address?
[06:22] <syrius> so the newer one probably works
[06:22] <syrius> Explore2, use your package manager
[06:22] <MikeNorby> Running ubuntu 9.10 on a MacBook Pro, can't get audio to work. Internal mic, internal speakers, and plugged in headphones, but still no sound. Anyone, is there a way to fix this?
[06:22] <MikeGuo> Explore2: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[06:23] <syrius> type alt+f2 then type terminal then type sudo apt-get install virtualbox Explore2
[06:23] <MikeGuo> MikeNorby: there is a guide about how to install ubuntun on Mac pro
[06:23] <syrius> sorry type gnome-terminal Explore2
[06:24] <MikeGuo> MikeNorby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro
[06:24] <MikeNorby> MikeGuo, It's installed perfectly fine on my MacBook Pro, its just the audio that doesnt work. It doesnt work booting from the disk either.
[06:25] <MikeGuo> yeah, there is  some detail information about the audio.
[06:25] <MikeGuo> in that page.
[06:25] <MikeGuo> you check that.
[06:25] <wastegate> hey
[06:25] <Pelo> !sound
[06:25] <syrius> Flare-Laptop, that doesn't talk about burning
[06:25] <syrius> I already saw that page
[06:25] <syrius> it talks about watching blu ray and hddvd movies
[06:25] <Flare-Laptop> syrius: Yes, I see that now :(
[06:25] <syrius> I don't care for doing that
[06:26] <Pelo> syrius, just burning data to a blueray ? doesn'T  brasero handle it ?
[06:26] <wastegate> what is the make command to compile only currently loaded modules, e.g. make lodmodconfig?? that doesn't work
[06:26] <syrius> I want to know before buying one Pelo
[06:26] <syrius> perhaps I should ask the tech guys at the store
[06:26] <syrius> perhaps they will know
[06:27] <kraut> moin
[06:28] <rumpsy> what is moin?
[06:28] <wastegate> lod mod config, I can't remeber!
[06:28] <wastegate> somebody has to know
[06:28] <Pelo> rumpsy, short for morning
[06:28] <elitecoder> How can I check the ./configure line a package was configured with?
[06:28] <rumpsy> Pelo: okay
[06:30] <winfried> hallo jemand online?
[06:31] <Newbuntu2> I'm adding a harddrive purely for backup  - any particular partitioning scheme or filesystem I should pick? Or is one big ext4 space good?
[06:31] <wastegate> make localmodconfig, that's it!
[06:31] <elitecoder> Is there a way to see how a package was ./configured?
[06:31] <aksci> how do i run a gui application as a different user through terminal?
[06:32] <lamebot> i am trying to watch a div x movie on ninjavideo.net, i get a message that says there was an error getting the video information
[06:32] <lamebot> does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:32] <antonius> aksci: su to the username
[06:32] <antonius> aksci: then type the command as that user
[06:33] <antonius> that should work
[06:33] <Pelo> lamebot, sounds like the website is sending bad data , not much you can do about that
[06:33] <lamebot> oh ok thanks
[06:33] <antonius> works for root, at least..example, sudo nautilus works
[06:33] <qweasdd> hello, a ubuntu based VPS of ours ran out of disk space, we cleaned the problem and restarted mysql. A warning is now shown, "* Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables. " - how can we see what the progress is on this, or if it is even doing anything as a particular database is not coming back up. It's around 450MB and the machine has been up for over 20minutes.
[06:34] <aksci> antonius: it doesn't work! display: unable to open X server `:0.0' @ display.c/DisplayImageCommand/418.
[06:34] <hyperstream> are there any guides on how to bridge my wlan0 to my wlan2 ?
[06:34] <Pelo> aksci, why not just use the fast user switcher applet ?
[06:35] <Explore2> syrius: in alt+f2, if i give terminal,i am getting an error
[06:35] <Explore2> no such file or directory
[06:35] <syrius> Explore2, type gnome-terminal then enter
[06:36] <aksci> Pelo: i don't want to switch user to just use a single application!
[06:36] <Darkedge> =/ I'm daul-booting Windows and Linux, I alredy have Linux installed, whats the easiest way to make space for Windows? I also plan on making just enough space for Windows and hoping its possible for Windows to see my Linux partion somehow? Any ideas? Thanks.
[06:36] <aksci> there should be a way! can't the same xserver be used by other login?
[06:36] <antonius> aksci: damn...sorry bro...maybe an X thing..i know in xnest was handy for this
[06:36] <syrius> Explore2, then in the terminal type without the quotes "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[06:36] <Pelo> Explore2, you can also switch to consol mode with crtl+alt+f2 ( throught to f6)  and crtl_alt+f7 to come back
[06:37] <syrius> let's not make it more complicated then it has to be for him/her
[06:37] <syrius> well actually f1 through f6 and f7 to get back
[06:38] <Pelo> syrius, well why are you tellhing him to open a terminal using alt+f2 instead of from the menu ?
[06:38] <winfried> spricht jemand deutsch?
[06:38] <Pelo> !de | Wind0pain
[06:38] <Pelo> ...
[06:39] <lol11> sup, where can i get help for bash scripting
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> lol11, #bash
[06:39] <Pelo> lol11, #bash
[06:40] <lol11> kk, it actually exists
[06:40] <lol11> lol
[06:40] <lol11> tahnks
[06:40] <Pelo> lol11, it's a big internet , everything exist somwhere
[06:40] <lol11> yep, ive realized it
[06:40] <srv> i have 2 network cards on different networks
[06:41] <srv> how can i access one of them from the other
[06:41] <aksci> antonius: huh? didn't get you!
[06:41] <Explore2> i got a deb package of virutal box, while installing it says, should the vboxdr kernel module be complied now?
[06:41] <antonius> aksci: try a program called xnest
[06:41] <antonius> Xnest...idk
[06:41] <Explore2> what are consequences of these?
[06:42] <Quan-Time_> .FLV video joiner / converter.. what are my options ? whats a good video editing prog
[06:42] <Quan-Time_> ?
[06:43] <Pelo> Quan-Time_, give avidemux a try , not sure about flv but probably,  might need to save it as someting else however
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> Quan-Time_, avidemux does support flv
[06:44] <Quan-Time_> nice.. cheers, il give it a whirl now !
[06:44] <Pelo> Explore2, compile it, it,s part of the instal process, if you'Re installg from the repository you need not fear
[06:44] <Newbuntu2> what is the best filesystem for a backup drive?
[06:45] <pat|nG> anyone here?
[06:45] <pat|nG> need help
[06:45] <pat|nG> :(
[06:45] <Pelo> pat|nG, just state your problem
[06:45] <Quan-Time_> pat|nG: whats your prob ?
[06:45] <antonius> newbuntu2: according to digg.com ext4 is the best filesystem ever lol
[06:45] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, any special type of media or just a hdd ?
[06:46] <wolter> !tab | antonius
[06:46] <Newbuntu2> Pelo: just a plain hdd - accessible via network, so blinding performance not necessary  - but is there a particularly good one for, eg, power losses, etc
[06:46] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, ext4 is up to the job
[06:46] <Newbuntu2> basically, which is the most robust
[06:46] <Quan-Time_> i use a 500gb external caddy,, NTFS,, works great
[06:47] <Pelo> Quan-Time_, ntfs support is not 100% in linux, much better then it was but not 100%
[06:47] <antonius> honestly, newbuntu2, if you use different OS, FAT32 of NTFS...OS X, windows, and linux can read write all of those
[06:47] <Newbuntu2> Pelo: I thought ext4 holds data in the cache for a long time before writing - hence not the best?
[06:47] <Newbuntu2> whereas ext3 syncs every 5 sec
[06:47] <pat|nG> i got my laptop and i have win7 and i set the boot setup to cd as it boots up...now im in the process of installing kubuntu....it appears i'm in disk setup...how can i install it without a rewritting my win7 os? all i can see is /dev/sda1 ntfs until sda4.....i don't know which of that my win7 is runnin....so which one i will choose to install kubuntu? i got 3 partition each partition is 80gb how can i know that drive ain't used by win7?
[06:47] <Newbuntu2> but it writes metadata/journal first, then the data...
[06:47] <reisio> ext4 is deafult for 9.10, right?
[06:47] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, you seem to be more knowlegdable about this then I am
[06:48] <Newbuntu2> reisio: yes
[06:48] <reisio> pat|nG: look at them, see if they're empty
[06:48] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Is only Win7 installed now?
[06:48] <reisio> pat|nG: should be auto-mounted if they're NTFS already
[06:48] <reisio> Newbuntu2: thanks
[06:48] <pat|nG> yes
[06:48] <Pelo> pat|nG, in the installation process you will be asked where to isntall, you'll be given the option to repartition if you need to make room
[06:48] <pat|nG> tweaksource: yes....it's new actually
[06:48] <Newbuntu2> reisergs is supposed to be good too....
[06:49] <reisio> it's not, it's bad :p
[06:49] <Pelo> Newbuntu2, yes but it will murder your wife
[06:49]  * Pelo just couldn'T resist
[06:49] <reisio> try harder :p
[06:49] <alftwo> lol
[06:49] <pat|nG> pelo: i didn't get that info actually it just choices to setup manually
[06:49] <tweaksource> pat|nG, So, there exists sda2 & 3?
[06:49] <pat|nG> i did manually
[06:49] <reisio> reiser is very good when you want something fast for files you _do not care about_
[06:49] <ZykoticK9> Newbuntu2, reiserfs or um murderfs as it has come to be know probably isn't such a good recommendation these days...
[06:49] <pat|nG> do i need to hit back?
[06:50] <tweaksource> I would suggest that you need to examine your partition schem
[06:50] <Newbuntu2> I guess ext3 it is, then
[06:50] <tweaksource> pat|nG, scheme
[06:51] <tweaksource> Newbuntu2, I still have issues from ext4, last I tried it.
[06:51] <pat|nG> sda1 0.0%(100MB) sda2 35.5%(78.0GB) sda3 33.5% (78.1GB) sda4 32.9% (76.6GB)
[06:52] <tweaksource> pat|nG, You made sda2, sda3 and sda4 correct?
[06:52] <pat|nG> it is already made by the techman from the shop i bought my notebook
[06:52] <tweaksource> pat|nG, You are using the Live cd?
[06:53] <pat|nG> yes
[06:53] <tweaksource> What is the output of 'fdisk -l', please?
[06:53] <pat|nG> and i chose setup manually
[06:53] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Pastebin
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> pat|nG, tweaksource - you will need to use "sudo fdisk -l" btw
[06:54] <tweaksource> ZykoticK9, Of course, you are correct.
[06:54] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:54] <pat|nG> tweaksource: i can't coz it's runnin manually i didn't used wubi app
[06:54] <pat|nG> coz i want to install it not under win7
[06:54] <pat|nG> i wan't a full kubuntu os runnin on my laptop
[06:55] <antonius> Newbuntu2: i concur, you've done ur research, and ext3 is probably ur best choice
[06:55] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Are you using a live cd with a desktop running?
[06:55] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Or are you saying that you are in alternate install?
[06:55] <Dravekx> IF I have users jailed into their home directories, and I specify myself to not be jailed so I can browse the server, what access do I give to /var/www in order me to access it? right now its root:root.
[06:56] <reisio> pat|nG: there're really only three possibilities: unpartitioned space you can install to, empty partitions you can delete and install to, and partitions you have to resize to make empty space to install to
[06:56] <Quan-Time_> avidemux works a charm !! cheers for the suggestion ppls.
[06:56] <reisio> all pretty easy to determine
[06:56] <reisio> Quan-Time_: for what?
[06:57] <Kvist> l
[06:57] <Dravekx> anyone have a "lamens book" on permissions?
[06:58] <pat|nG> reisio: how can i determine that partition ain't used by win7?
[06:58] <reisio> Dravekx: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/permissions.html
[06:58] <tweaksource> pat|nG, In any event, sda1 is likely Win7. If you just manually created sda2, sda3, and sda4, then pick one of those.
[06:58] <tweaksource> pat|nG, Win7 partition will have an NTFS file system.
[06:59] <Dravekx> reisio, thx
[06:59] <reisio> pat|nG: there's going to be a big partition that Windows 7's core files are on
[06:59] <reisio> pat|nG: any partition that comes _after_ that, that is devoid of data, you can most likely safely obliterate
[06:59] <winfried> anybody speak german?
[06:59] <reisio> winfried: #ubuntu-de
[07:00] <maco> !de | winfried
[07:03] <reisio> that's a lot of words to say '#ubuntu-de' :p
[07:03] <alftwo> why say it when you can write a script to do it too?
[07:03] <Dravekx> so...
[07:03] <tweaksource> reisio: indeed
[07:04] <alteregoa> yeah aubuntu satanic works very well
[07:04] <reisio> alftwo: I could put 'ude' into XChat's auto replacements :p
[07:04] <reisio> or I could just type '#ubuntu-de'
[07:04] <Dravekx> If I give myself ownership of a directory, and I give someone else ownership of a sub directory, can they access it????
[07:04] <reisio> takes approximately the same time
[07:04] <reisio> Dravekx: the sub-directory?
[07:04] <alftwo> heh
[07:05] <Dravekx> reisio, yes. did I say that wrong? lol
[07:05] <elvios> Dravekx: didn't you already read that book ? :D
[07:05] <reisio> Dravekx: just wanted to be clear
[07:05] <Dravekx> yeah, Im still lost though.
[07:05] <reisio> if someone owns a sub-directory, they own it
[07:05] <reisio> Dravekx: you probably own /home/youruser/, for example
[07:05] <reisio> you do not own /
[07:05] <reisio> /home/youruser/ is a sub directory of /
[07:06] <Dravekx> reisio, ok, let me see if I got this right. lol
[07:06] <reisio> when you own something, you own it
[07:06] <alteregoa> ubuntu-satanic helps me trought the day
[07:06] <hexd> does cedega demo with SPORE work with python 2.6.4
[07:06] <reisio> what's that?
[07:07] <reisio> (@alter)
[07:07] <Dravekx> reisio, I have ownership of /var/www, inside are symlinks that connect to user home directories, that will work correct?
[07:07] <reisio> Dravekx: define work ;)
[07:08] <Explore2> i installed virtualbox, by downloading debian package from site, wat is the command to open it now?
[07:08] <Dravekx> the users can put web pages in their home directories and be seen on the net
[07:08] <Dravekx> ?
[07:08] <acp_> !modinfo
[07:08] <Dravekx> oh, im retarded.. Im doing that now with root. lol
[07:08] <elvios> explore2: try vbox or virtualbox
[07:08] <tweaksource> Explore2, Virtualbox
[07:08] <Dravekx> duh
[07:10] <inertial> if my boot partition is out of space, i can just delete some of the old kernels?
[07:10] <BinaryMan> anyone have a suggestion on how to rip the audio from an mp4 video taken from a cellphone?
[07:10] <Flannel> inertial: Yeah, remove their packages through your favorite package manager (linux-image-[version] is the package)
[07:11] <tweaksource> BinaryMan, ffmpeg
[07:11] <Dravekx> cool
[07:11] <Dravekx> it works.
[07:11] <Khisanth> mplayer -dumpaudio foo.mp4
[07:11] <BinaryMan> that simple?
[07:11] <Khisanth> well not exactly, it doesn't work for all formats
[07:12] <Khisanth> don't recall if it does for mp4
[07:12] <alteregoa> ubuntu satanic is a very nice skin for ubuntu
[07:12] <Besogon> Hello!!!! ha) How can I know which package is include epsf.tex file????
[07:12] <tweaksource> BinaryMan,  ffmpeg -i input.mp4 out.mp3
[07:12] <ManDay> When I return the computer from Hibernation I (almost always) have to enter my root password "for the default keyring to unlock for nm-applet" - this is REALLY annoying - anyway to make it remember the permission??
[07:12] <alteregoa> the appearance looks very gothic but nice
[07:12] <reisio> can throw in -vn if it has trouble dropping the video
[07:13] <BinaryMan> tweaksource: the audio is in aac. will ffmpeg automagically transcode the aac to mp3?
[07:13] <reisio> yup
[07:13] <alteregoa> get foobar2000
[07:13] <alteregoa> install wine and get foobar2000
[07:13] <tweaksource> BinaryMan, Works for me
[07:13] <reisio> probably pretty low quality already, though, if it's from a cell phone
[07:13] <alteregoa> forget those complex cryptic command like commands
[07:13] <tweaksource> reisio, Agree.
[07:13] <Besogon> In which package is included epsf.tex? Which command should I use for it?
[07:13] <BinaryMan> alteregoa: i have a virtual machine with fb2k already on it, and i like the command line.
[07:14] <reisio> (meaning why convert it)
[07:14] <alteregoa> for a single file ok, but for tons nah
[07:14] <BinaryMan> reisio: i was thinking the same thing. if it sounds like crap, i won't keep it.
[07:14] <reisio> who needs a GUI when you can use mplayer -slave :)
[07:15] <reisio> BinaryMan: you could also just do mplayer -novideo foo.mp4 :p
[07:15] <alteregoa> thats why i work for xerox, developing gui
[07:16] <tweaksource> reisio, I've always used ffmpeg. Why do you prefer mplayer?
[07:16] <reisio> tweaksource: for playing
[07:17] <reisio> 'mplayer -slave' was re: foobar
[07:17] <tweaksource> yeah.
[07:18] <tweaksource> reisio, I just wondered if mplayer had some advantage over ffmpeg as a command line conversion tool.
[07:18] <hyper_ch> hello there, when I log into my ubuntu box with ssh I get that motd: http://www.pastie.org/789433 --> how is that achieved or how can I make on my debian boxes that it also shows me how many packages can be updated and how many updates are security updates?
[07:18] <reisio> tweaksource: mencoder has, very occasionally
[07:19] <reisio> I prefer ffmpeg myself
[07:19] <reisio> it's all the same code base, though
[07:19] <reisio> I'm sure you know :)
[07:20] <Ruge> Hi folks, how important is it to have the latest ubuntu?
[07:20] <tweaksource> ffmpeg has always worked for me and I'm used to it. mencoder has like a billion lines of docs
[07:20] <Ruge> I am on a very low bandwidth connection and only have a 9.04 disc
[07:20] <alftwo> hyper_ch: try /etc/motd iirc that is the right one, but I can't remember for SSH
[07:20] <tweaksource> I'm still using 8.04
[07:20] <Ruge> o rly, hahha
[07:21] <tweaksource> 8.04 is the current LTS
[07:21] <hyper_ch> alftwo: the question is, how does it end up there?
[07:21] <Ruge> oh i c
[07:21] <tweaksource> i.e. "stable"
[07:21] <Ruge> so for a new system, i will be fine with an older ubuntu for quite some time?
[07:22] <alftwo> hyper_ch: ah, didn't notice the rest of that, sorry ;p
[07:22] <Ruge> i may have an 8.04 disc around too XD
[07:22] <c_nick> is there a simple paintbrush option in Ubuntu not referring to GIMP
[07:22] <hyper_ch> Ruge: yeah, just newer versions usually provide more up-to-date programs
[07:22] <reisio> c_nick: xpaint?
[07:22] <hyper_ch> alftwo: :)
[07:22] <Ruge> awesome
[07:22] <tweaksource> Ruge, 9.04 is not "old"
[07:22] <c_nick> ok thanks
[07:22] <tweaksource> upgrade is always an option
[07:22] <thehungrylumberj> You should be, I find that Karmic is just flashier. You get some neat other programs but the basics are all covered in 8.04
[07:22] <Ruge> ahh yes
[07:22] <hyper_ch> Ruge: and 8.04 is supported on the desktop until april 2011
[07:22] <Ruge> well, i have a ... low level machine
[07:22] <Ruge> while i have large amounts of ram, i have no GFX
[07:23] <Ruge> so i would prefer no extra flashiness
[07:23] <hyper_ch> Ruge: the next lts is 10.04 and there should be a direct upgrade path from 8.04 to 10.04
[07:23] <tweaksource> Ruge, FLUXBOX
[07:23] <hatikvah> I also don't have gfx
[07:23] <hyper_ch> but I usually reinstall the whole system from alternate installer :)
[07:23] <tweaksource> Sorry, I can't help myself
[07:23] <Ruge> My specs: Intel P4 3.0Ghz, 2GB DDR1 RAM, onboard Intel GFX
[07:23] <tweaksource> Ruge, You'll be fine
[07:23] <Ruge> schweeet
[07:23] <hyper_ch> you call that low level machine?
[07:23] <hatikvah> but there is no problem with using higher graphic option
[07:23] <tweaksource> I'm sayin'
[07:24] <Ruge> hyper_ch: well, its the lack of GFX thats giving me a worry ;)
[07:24] <alteregoa> yes it is
[07:24] <thehungrylumberj> you can turn off all the flash in Karmic but then there isn't really a point in updating. If everything works fine don't bother
[07:24] <hyper_ch> Ruge:
[07:24] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'eubi': Linux 2.6.31-18-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.3.90 (KDE 4.3.90 (KDE 4.4 RC1)), CPU: Intel(R) Atom CPU N280   @ 1.66GHz at 1667 MHz (3324 bogomips), HD: 69/144GB, RAM: 1953/2005MB, 210 proc's, 18.3min up
[07:24] <c_nick> yes Ruge i am in the same category..except for the fact that i got a 1 GB less than you
[07:24] <hyper_ch> with intel GMA
[07:24] <hatikvah> atom..
[07:25] <hyper_ch> my beloved little netbook :9
[07:25] <tweaksource> AMD Athlon 2.2 GHz, 2 gb ram,
[07:25] <hatikvah> i want to buy netbook
[07:25] <Ruge> K i have: Ubuntu 8.10, Ubuntu 9.04 and LinuxMint 6
[07:25] <hyper_ch> hatikvah: if you want a bit a more powerful netbook get one with ION
[07:25] <tweaksource> hatikvah, Pick up one for me while you're out!
[07:25] <thehungrylumberj> If you are experienced with linux and have a small system why not try gentoo? You can strip it down nicely.
[07:26] <hatikvah> i have cheapest labtop only
[07:26] <hatikvah> lfdsfsdf
[07:26] <tweaksource> Ubuntu Minimal CD.
[07:26] <tweaksource> Already stripped.
[07:26] <thehungrylumberj> That too @tweak
[07:26] <hatikvah> It is too heavy to carry
[07:26] <n00p> I have the cheapest laptop with a sufficiently expensive solid state drive, it runs nicely :)
[07:26] <n00p> Well, not the cheapest.
[07:26] <Ruge> Well, ill take the plunge at 9.04
[07:26] <Ruge> See how it goes XD
[07:27] <n00p> A dell inspiron 1525 -- good power/price balance in my opinion.
[07:27] <thehungrylumberj> I got a monster when I was a gamer now I feel like I wasted money since I run linux
[07:27] <tweaksource> Ruge: Best of Luck
[07:27] <Besogon> Samsung nc10 would be good netbook
[07:27] <Ruge> I just need to create \ and \home yes?
[07:27] <reisio> on Gentoo, you can tell man pages to not be installed :p
[07:27] <thehungrylumberj> good luck
[07:27] <hatikvah> I bought this laptop about 400 bucks
[07:27] <hyper_ch> the only thing I'd wish on my netbook was dual core and 64bit
[07:27] <thehungrylumberj> haha gentoo is cool I wan't to give it a go this year
[07:27] <hyper_ch> but then I couldn't run on battery for like 7h
[07:27] <c_nick> Ruge: i got U NBR 9.04
[07:27] <hyper_ch> gentoo is for people with no friends and too much spare time :)
[07:27] <c_nick> and its working well.. besides the compiz stuff
[07:27]  * Ruge has no friends and spare time
[07:28] <thehungrylumberj> Haha thats why I like it!
[07:28] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[07:28] <tweaksource> Ruge, and swap
[07:28] <Ruge> ah swap, yes
[07:28] <alteregoa> Sysinfo for fnord-top: Linux 2.6.33-rc4-generic running Gnome Desktop Environment, CPU Intel Core I7 @ 4.2GHz (23102 bogomips), HD: 1620/1896GB, RAM: 1022/8192GB, 189 proc's, 2h 23min up
[07:28] <thehungrylumberj> damn alteregoa
[07:28] <thehungrylumberj> nice rig
[07:28] <stone_> nice
[07:29] <reisio> hyper_ch: I hate people with friends! :p
[07:29] <Besogon> hatikvah, Do you talk about SamsungNC10? What else do you need?
[07:29] <tweaksource> alteregoa, Where do you live? :)
[07:29] <hatikvah> How can I display system performance here?
[07:29] <alteregoa> switzerland
[07:29] <reisio> alteregoa: agreed
[07:29] <Myrtti> reminder people, this is the support channel, not "compare your hardware" discussion.
[07:29] <Ruge> Im sure the chan will switch gears when a question is asked next ;)
[07:29] <tweaksource> Myrtti, My bad.
[07:29] <n00p> (Myrtti) stop being a tight-arse. I see no requests for support here.
[07:30] <Ruge> rofl
[07:30] <Myrtti> n00p: It's my job to be one.
[07:30] <maco> n00p: be nice to Myrtti!
[07:30] <hatikvah> is this channel only for support?
[07:30] <Myrtti> hatikvah: yes.
[07:30] <n00p> Well you're not very good at it. You let me get the better of you.
[07:30] <thehungrylumberj> help I "mv /usr/ to /home/" wat do!?
[07:30] <Myrtti> hatikvah: if you want to chitchat, join #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[07:30] <thehungrylumberj> heh
[07:30] <Myrtti> thehungrylumberj: why?
[07:30] <IdleOne> !guidelines | n00p
[07:30] <n00p> !idgaf | IdleOne
[07:30]  * aquarat clicks
[07:31] <IdleOne> !language | n00p
[07:31] <thehungrylumberj> jk Myrtti haha
[07:31] <alteregoa> i measure my conditional replication organes with someone else
[07:31] <Besogon> hatikvah, gnome-system-monitor
[07:31] <aprilhare> hello. I installed tor, torbutton. privoxy and vidalia. I can run vidalia and connect to the tor network, however when I enable tor using torbutton, traffic doesn't go via tor for some reason. - any ideas?
[07:31] <n00p> How do you expect me to do that, you want me to pull my eyeballs out and turn them around?
[07:31] <aprilhare> n00p: yes plz
[07:32] <tweaksource> and take pics
[07:35] <aquarat> Herro... I'm battling to get samba installed on Ubuntu 9.10 AMD64. The command attempted was "sudo apt-get install samba", this results in the process hanging apparently on the post installation script. I have tried removing samba, I have tried purging and cleaning, I've tried updating the entire system, the result is always the same.
[07:35] <aquarat> :D
[07:36] <inertial> thanks Flannel
[07:36] <aquarat> I've also tried uncommenting the "off" token in the xinetd.conf file
[07:36] <n00p> How did you guys get that sysinfo btw?
[07:36] <srv> i have 2 different network cards each connected to different network, from one how can i acess the other
[07:36] <srv> i mean if i am in network1 how can i acess network2
[07:36] <IdleOne> n00p: xchat.org has a sysinfo script you can install
[07:36] <n00p> Blah, xchat.
[07:37] <IdleOne> has a few actually
[07:37] <IdleOne> n00p: I'm sure irssi has some also
[07:37] <hyper_ch> hatikvah: if you have konversation as irc client you can just type:  /sysinfo
[07:38] <homebrewcider> what's the best way to test my firewall please?
[07:38] <hyper_ch> homebrewcider: nmap
[07:38] <reisio> /join #hackers and be annoying
[07:39] <hatikvah> hyper_ch thank you
[07:39] <tweaksource> reisio, lol
[07:39] <Diverdude> is it possible to make all icons appear as small as possible on the desktop, instead of I have to manually right click each icon and stretch it, so that I can make it smaller with the mouse?
[07:39] <tweaksource> Diverdude, Increase screen resolution?
[07:39] <homebrewcider> checking it out, cheers
[07:40] <Diverdude> tweaksource, hehehe no :) That would be a pretty stupid solution
[07:40] <alteregoa> i increased it to 2048x something
[07:40] <tweaksource> Diverdude, What DE are you using?
[07:41] <tweaksource> or WM
[07:41] <reisio> Diverdude: you could symlink all your large icon directories to small icon directories :p
[07:41] <Diverdude> Diverdude, gnome if thats what you mean?
[07:41] <Diverdude> reisio, symlink?
[07:42] <tweaksource> nautilus->preferences icon view defaults
[07:42] <papul> hi guys :D
[07:42] <papul> quite silent 2day
[07:42] <tweaksource> Diverdude, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191483
[07:43] <reisio> Diverdude: you poor soul :) ffr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
[07:44] <tweaksource> Diverdude, reisio Even better - http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/11/links.html
[07:44] <homebrewcider> hyper_ch-I'm behind a Smoothwall firewall, would this still work?
[07:44] <alteregoa> no
[07:44] <alteregoa> because smoothwall is outdated
[07:44] <aquarat> I'm also behind a smoothwall, it works great :)
[07:45] <alteregoa> yeah im behind a fork of smoothwall
[07:45] <reisio> I have a strict no-linking-to-blogs-with-serious-face policy :p
[07:45] <Diverdude> tweaksource, hmm i dont seem to have nautilus->preferences icon view defaults
[07:45] <reisio> not that that post looks bad, but it's policy :p
[07:46] <tweaksource> Diverdude, Sorry, that is an old post.
[07:46] <reisio> might ask #gnome
[07:46] <alteregoa> i still wait for openbsd wall or something
[07:47] <Diverdude> reisio, so a symbolic link is a sort of shortcut?
[07:47] <reisio> no, a shortcut is a sort of symbolic link :p
[07:47] <reisio> point is if it's looking for those icons at /foo/
[07:48] <reisio> you could just point /foo/ to /bar/
[07:48] <reisio> and it'd be none the wiser
[07:48] <reisio> course the text settings might be all screwey :p
[07:48] <tweaksource> Diverdude, You may be able to edit the gtk-icon-sizes in the gtkrc file in your theme
[07:48] <reisio> I'd be surprised if GNOME didn't have a pref for what you want _somewhere_
[07:49] <movied_> hi all i need help
[07:49] <tweaksource> reisio, I agree. I just don't want to login to gnome to hunt it down.  :)
[07:49] <papul> !help | movied_
[07:49] <movied_> i am new to linux
[07:49] <reisio> heh
[07:49] <Diverdude> tweaksource, hmm i see....where would i find that
[07:49] <Myrtti> !ask | movied_
[07:49] <roracle> so i used gimp and inkscape to create an icon for my desktop (a prism launched application) but the icon will not show up, regardless of what i do.  SVG and PNG format are the type they are, what do i do here?
[07:49] <movied_> thanks guys
[07:49] <reisio> roracle: how have you told it to show up?
[07:50] <movied_> i am trying to install VM ware player to load some virtual machine on ubuntu
[07:50] <roracle> in the gconf editor?  yes
[07:50] <reisio> roracle: that covers a lot of ground
[07:50] <roracle> other icons appear
[07:50] <reisio> movied_: and?
[07:50] <tweaksource> movied: go on...
[07:50] <roracle> like the default computer, home, and trash works
[07:51] <movied_> everytime i go on the terminal and i try to install and get to the point where i have to type in the password it does not allow me to type in anything
[07:51] <carpediem> roracle: For a prism app, make sure you set the launcher to executable (Prism doesn't do this by default)
[07:51] <movied_> all i can do is press enter
[07:51] <bendt> ??? My system time is constantly about 30 min. behind. I have chosen several servers in admin -> Time and date. Ubuntu 9.10 - please help!!
[07:51] <reisio> movied_: it doesn't say something about not showing characters while you type?
[07:51] <roracle> that did it!
[07:51] <tweaksource> movied_, How about tab?
[07:51] <movied_> exact
[07:51] <roracle> thanks a million!
[07:51] <movied_> pressing tab
[07:51] <carpediem> roracle: sure thing
[07:51] <Myrtti> movied_: it gives you "enter password:" and you type and nothing appears?
[07:51] <movied_> u mean as simple as that
[07:52] <alteregoa> i got a problem with my spastic sparrow
[07:52] <movied_> correct Myrtti
[07:52] <Myrtti> movied_: in the terminal the password characters aren't echoed, not even with asterisks
[07:52] <Myrtti> movied_: just enter your password and press enter.
[07:52] <thehungrylumberj> movied_: Myrtti: doesn't terminal not echo pass?
[07:52] <Myrtti> thehungrylumberj: no.
[07:53] <movied_> nothing seems to be displayed the cursor doesn't even move when i type
[07:53] <thehungrylumberj> whoops double advice sorry Myr
[07:53] <movied_> but only the enter key seems to work
[07:53] <Myrtti> movied_: give your password and press enter.
[07:53] <reisio> movied_: just type your password despite that, then hit ENTER
[07:53] <tweaksource> movied_, That is the expexted behaviour
[07:54] <Bodsda> I have installed fluxbox from source, but need help getting it into the sessions list. Can anyone tell me where the gdm config sessions file is?
[07:54] <movied_> i will try so the command should be sudo -l then when prompted for password i just type it
[07:54] <thehungrylumberj> It's a safety thing I believe movied.
[07:54] <papul> movied_: thats a security feature. it doesn't show the pass when u type
[07:54] <movied_> but i cant even c the *
[07:55] <Myrtti> movied_: as I said, they're not shown.
[07:55] <Bodsda> movied_: so that people looking over your shoulder cant tell how long the password is
[07:55] <movied_> kool i'll try gimi a sec
[07:55] <bendt> ??? My system time is constantly about 30 min. behind. I have chosen several servers in admin -> Time and date. Ubuntu 9.10 - please help!!
[07:55] <bendt> ??? My system time is constantly about 30 min. behind. I have chosen several NTP servers in admin -> Time and date. Ubuntu 9.10 - please help!!
[07:55] <movied_> i'll be damed
[07:56] <talented> bendt, then tell the system you're in a place 30 minutes ahead
[07:56] <thehungrylumberj> haha cool ed movied?
[07:56] <tweaksource> movied_, Generally in Linux if nothing seems to have happened then all is well
[07:56] <movied_> its working i think
[07:56] <reisio> :)
[07:56] <movied_> i'll be coming here more often hope u guys are patient lol
[07:56] <talented> bendt, what location are you at?
[07:56] <tweaksource> movied_, We've all been there
[07:56] <thehungrylumberj> Microsoft solution to movied's problem: Turn monitor off then enter pass :P
[07:56] <Bodsda> movied_: if your willing to listen and do some research, were always happy to help
[07:56] <movied_> thanks everyone i am going to register a nick and see u soon
[07:57] <alteregoa> damnid did ya hear it on the NEWS, a EARTQUAKE on ANTARCTICA with 9.3 on the Scale!
[07:57] <reisio> is that a Haiti joke? :p
[07:57] <reisio> 6.3, you mean?
[07:57] <Bodsda> alteregoa: pop qiuz: what scale are they using?
[07:57] <bendt> Denmark - i think time zones vary by one hour only? GMT-1
[07:57] <alteregoa> richter scale, the dude from total recall
[07:58] <talented> 3.6... you have to look at it upside down if you go that far south
[07:58] <Bodsda> alteregoa: !!**NO**!! sorry, no one uses the richter scale anymore, apart from ignorant news reporters :)
[07:58] <movied_> guys i have a digital TV USB card to watch digital TV i am having driver issue as i was previously using XP
[07:58] <Myrtti> alteregoa, reisio: this is the support channel, if you want to discuss the news, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:58] <movied_> not i am experimenting linux
[07:59] <bendt> talented, my time zone is called "Europe/Copenhagen" in the settings
[07:59] <movied_> was wondering if the hardware company does not provide a version does that mean i am stuck
[07:59] <reisio> Myrtti: -> alteregoa
[07:59] <alteregoa> hmm antarctica has no land lol
[07:59] <Bodsda> movied_: could you please run 'lsusb' and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[07:59] <talented> do you know which ntp server you are using bendt ?
[07:59] <reisio> alteregoa: ...
[08:00] <movied_> u want me to paste it on the main channel?
[08:00] <Bodsda> movied_: no, paste to the site   paste.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <movied_> i got it i am pasting it on the link bodsda
[08:00] <bendt> I have chosen several - how do I check, which I am using? I put in n1.taur.dk manually.
[08:01] <Bodsda> movied_: cool, when you submit it, it will change the URL, we need that new URL to see the paste
[08:01] <movied_> its done