[12:57] <ikonia> alisoviy why ?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: my guess is sudo apt-get install gtk-smooth-engine
[12:57] <JuJuBee> after tune2fs?
[12:57] <ikonia> alisoviy: you mean libata ?
[12:57] <soundray> JuJuBee: sorry, I misunderstood your question
[12:57] <alisoviy> ikonia, i have a slow perfomance into sata... System works like DMA is OFF
[12:58] <Dillizar> !woody
[12:58] <mfoniso> amias: there's only one kernel image so I guess I'll try the same for the other options
[12:58] <mib> ikonia: i have two pc, one is laptop and the other one is desktop..the one with laptop can assess the x hdd.
[12:58] <ikonia> alisoviy ok ,
[12:58] <mib> the xhdd is HPFS/NTFS
[12:58] <ikonia> alisoviy: is it an ide or sata disk ?
[12:58] <bullgard4> mc lists for my file /media/tmp: "Owner name: root; Group name:999." In /etc/group I can find 'root'. But I cannot find '999'. What does mean "Group name:999"?
[12:58] <soundray> JuJuBee: I thought you didn't like the name of the mount point. I didn't know it wasn't mounting at all
[12:58] <JuJuBee> soundray : do I run sync after running tune2fs?
[12:58] <alisoviy> ikonia, IDE
[12:58] <ValentineXX> ActionParsnip: huhuhuhu that was not a package, i look in synaptic
[12:58] <ikonia> mib: thats not what I asked
[12:58] <ikonia> alisoviy: what does hdtune show?
[12:58] <alisoviy> ikonia, w8
[12:58] <mib> ok.
[12:58] <JuJuBee> Correct, not mounting at all ... unless I manually mount.
[12:58] <mib> i have checked the x hdd its HPFS/NTFS
[12:59] <amias> mfoniso, looks to me like you have hosed your system , i would just book via a livecd and backup your data then reinstall
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: use terminal, synaptic is sloooow
[12:59] <amias> s/book/boot/
[12:59] <ikonia> mib ok, so attempt to mount it manually
[12:59] <alisoviy> ikonia, command not found :(
[12:59] <Dillizar> how can i make .bin in to .deb?
[12:59] <JuJuBee> soundray : As a result, I have to manually unmount.
[12:59]  * ValentineXX is switching between his ubuntu themes again and again.
[13:00] <mib> even with different flesystem?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: im not a gtk guy, I use kde
[13:00] <ikonia> mib ntfs is fine
[13:00] <JuJuBee> soundray : get error about Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL
[13:00] <Slart> Dillizar: since you asked like that I assume you're not experienced with packaging.. or?
[13:00] <mib> what command should i use to link ntfs with ext3(desktop)
[13:00] <Slart> Dillizar: what do you want to do?
[13:00] <mfoniso> amias: I'm trying to setup a server from an image created using partimage....
[13:00] <ValentineXX> ActionParsnip: what are gtk and kde?
[13:00] <akit_gupta> hi i m new to irc i want to join forzilla fire fox  official community so kindly tell me the steps....to do so.
[13:00] <mfoniso> so I've restored the image to the partition
[13:01] <alisoviy> ikonia, how can i tell to kernel to use HDX prefixes insteed of SDX?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: gtk == gnome tool kit, Kde == K desktop environment
[13:01] <mfoniso> and I'm trying to boot from that
[13:01] <[Dim__]> hi
[13:01] <akit_gupta> >	hi i m new to irc i want to join forzilla fire fox official community so kindly tell me the steps....to do so.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: sdx means sata / scsi, hdx = parallel ata
[13:01] <BleSS> my videos are wrong showed, it is as blinking (the dessktop is showed a bit every a little time), how to fix it?
[13:01] <soundray> JuJuBee: can you open gconf-editor and find the key /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/automount_drives and see if it's ticked
[13:01] <ikonia> alisoviy you don't need to
[13:01] <Slart> akit_gupta: don't they have some kind of tutorial/site with some information?
[13:01] <ikonia> alisoviy: what does hdtune say
[13:01] <Dillizar> Slart: i am trying to install JMF
[13:01] <alisoviy> ActionParsnip, i know.. so what i must to do to rollback to PATA?
[13:02] <amias> mfoniso, well its obviously not a ubuntu issue and the server you are trying to connect to is obviously not there anymore
[13:02] <alisoviy> ikonia, i don`t have it..
[13:02] <ikonia> alisoviy: you don't need to roll back
[13:02] <mib> what command should i use ikonia for the mount
[13:02] <ValentineXX> ActionParsnip: oh yes i am gnome desktop user
[13:02] <ikonia> alisoviy: that functionality is gone
[13:02] <ikonia> alisoviy: install it
[13:02] <ikonia> mib: mount
[13:02] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: i use kde
[13:02] <Slart> Dillizar: and why do you need to create a deb from a bin-file?
[13:02] <krish> ikonia: heh
[13:02] <ikonia> alisoviy: try hdparm
[13:02] <alisoviy> ikonia, apt-get install hdtune fails
[13:02] <JuJuBee> soundray : gconf-tool?  gconf-editor not an option.
[13:02] <amias> enough
[13:03] <soundray> JuJuBee: why not?
[13:03] <mfoniso> amias:yup, you're right
[13:03] <Dillizar> Slart: cuz when i install it like bin it cant be installed i dont know i want to try the easyest way deb :P
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> akit_gupta: I cant find anything on this forzilla, do you knwo the name of the server?
[13:03] <mfoniso> amias:but this wouldn't be distro-specific would it?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ValentineXX: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/4036
[13:03] <JuJuBee> soundray : is it because I use kubuntu
[13:03] <alisoviy> ikonia, http://www.pastebin.ru/298527   here is result
[13:04] <Slart> Dillizar: the reason a deb is easier is because someone else has done a lot of the hard work.. you can't just run a command and convert it
[13:04] <soundray> JuJuBee: then I can't help you. Ask in #kubuntu
[13:04] <notreally> #cakes
[13:04] <JuJuBee> soundray : just ran sync unplugged drive and when I plugged in again it mounted this time... Not sure why or what I did...  haven't run tune2fs yet...
[13:05] <zul_> join #network
[13:05] <alisoviy> ikonia, ActionParsnip, so i feel very poor HD perfomance.. Looks like DMA option is OFF..
[13:05] <JuJuBee> soundray : Thanks for the assistance anyway.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: then turn it on in xorg.conf
[13:05] <krish> alisoviy: pastebin.ru has some quality ads!
[13:05] <alisoviy> ikonia, ActionParsnip, and i know, that SATA no longer support this feature (DMA)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> oh dma, my bad
[13:05] <Slart> Dillizar: you'd be better off trying to install it from the bin file.. if it isn't already available in the repos but I guess you've checked that
[13:05] <Sensei_> hi there
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: then you need a new piece of hardware, logically?
[13:05] <ikonia> alisoviy: your not using sata though
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: you could tune its performance with hdparam
[13:06] <noob-africa> hi all
[13:06] <noob-africa> i have a serious problem with Ubuntu, Grub doesnt work... I get Error 17
[13:06] <noob-africa> can anyone help me? i use a HP Compaq NX 6110 laptop
[13:06] <krish> noob-africa: I bet mutiple abrupt reboots
[13:06] <alisoviy> in archlinux I wrote ide-disk, ide in mkinitcpio.conf and recompile initrd file.. and all worked fine
[13:07] <ikonia> alisoviy: look at the -I and -p modes on the hdparm settings
[13:07] <noob-africa> it's two weeks now i cant boot up
[13:07] <ikonia> alisoviy: your not using arch
[13:07] <krish> noob-africa: you got your ubuntu disk?
[13:07] <krish> boot through that
[13:07] <noob-africa> krish: well, i was using it, suddenly it started freezing up, GNOME components started disappearing
[13:07] <CorpusCallosum> hi i have a question i am buying a new notebook but i dont know if the graphical card and wireless adaptor are suitable or not. Geforce 9650GT and intel prowireless 5300 ?
[13:08] <alisoviy> ActionParsnip, ikonia, I wanna say, that ubuntu kernel can`t work with PATA?
[13:08] <CorpusCallosum> any idea ?
[13:08] <noob-africa> krish: i have a problem detecting  the CD... last week the CD drive could be detected, now it isnt
[13:08] <kommireddi> "use /nick kommireddi"
[13:08] <Sensei_> hi there
[13:08] <Sensei_> i have to run a su in a cript
[13:08] <Sensei_> but i want the system to not ask for the password
[13:08] <Sensei_> how can i do that?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> CorpusCallosum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=906865
[13:09] <krish> noob-africa: sigh. does your bios support usb boot?
[13:09] <noob-africa> krish: yes, it does...
[13:09] <soundray> Sensei_: don't use su. Run the script with sudo.
[13:09] <Slart> Sensei_: as a last resort you can pipe the password from a file to the sudo command
[13:09] <alisoviy> ikonia, ActionParsnip, *you wanna say..
[13:09] <Sensei_> soundray i mean sudo
[13:10] <krish> noob-africa: get some distro on usb, boot through that
[13:10] <ikonia> alisoviy: say what ?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Sensei_: if you put sudo <command line> in the script, if you sudo <scriptname> the password will be used for the whole thing
[13:10] <krish> noob-africa: or you'd probably want to give it for service to a hardware vendor
[13:10] <Slart> Sensei_: check the man page for sudo.. I think it's even mentioned there
[13:10] <noob-africa> krish: i dont have my laptop with me at the moment...
[13:10] <krish> CD drive helps a lot
[13:10]  * krish bangs his head
[13:10] <alisoviy> ikonia, ActionParsnip, that ubuntu kernel does`t support of PATA?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: check into hdparam, you cn tweak throughput quite a lot and get a lot of extra speed, the failsafes are garbage but will work on any drive
[13:10] <noob-africa> krish: you mean it IS possible to boot through an USB flash disk?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: yes it does
[13:10] <ikonia> alisoviy it does support pata, your using a pata disk
[13:10] <krish> yes it IS
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: all my drives are pata
[13:10] <noob-africa> krish: or would it better to boot through an external USB drive?
[13:11] <Sensei_> yeah i understand but i have in a script "sudo /etdgted/xxx.sh"
[13:11] <Slart> ActionParsnip: huh? if you use sudo <scriptname> the script will be run as root already, or?
[13:11] <krish> noob-africa: whats the difference?
[13:11] <Sensei_> it's a script calling another script
[13:11] <CorpusCallosum> ActionParsnip: you have an idea for the geforce 9650 gt
[13:11] <krish> the point is since the harddisk and cddrive have given up, use the other resource - usb
[13:12] <noob-africa> krish: i guess, with an USB external drive, the ONLY data that should be there should be the distro, right?
[13:12] <krish> or get the cddrive repaired/replaced
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | CorpusCallosum
[13:12] <alisoviy> ikonia, ActionParsnip, so tell me how to rollback to PATA from SATA and that`s all :) I don`t need to tune my drive opts.. I want to rollback to PATA and simply turn on DMA..
[13:12] <soundray> Sensei_: you should run the "outer" script with sudo
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: you need a pata disk
[13:12] <krish> noob-africa: i dont get it
[13:12] <ikonia> alisoviy your using libata - you don't roll back anything, that part of glibc is not theer any more
[13:12] <Slart> Sensei_: I suppose you could modify the sudo configuration to not need a password for just your script.. it's a big security hole but it will work I think
[13:12] <krish> could you rephrase
[13:12] <Sensei_> i can't this script execute itself with lirc
[13:12] <noob-africa> krish: yea, the cd drive could be damaged...
[13:13] <krish> noob-africa: get that replaced/diagonised
[13:13] <yugo> hello,guys,anyone can install  vmware-tools on ubuntu 8.10 guest?
[13:13] <ValentineXX> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/14/install-google-earth-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex/
[13:13] <ValentineXX> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:13] <krish> and then follow http://microdotsagamedev.wordpress.com/2007/06/08/repair-your-grub-loader/
[13:13] <ikonia> alisoviy: you need to set the correct options on your disk, or maybe even do some bottleneck tuning to find out if it's your disk, or a the later version of your controller driver for example
[13:13] <noob-africa> krish: i mean, with external usb drive, since it could contain other data, if it must be a bootable drive, the only data that should be there should be an exact copy of  the LiveCD, right?
[13:13] <ChrisBookwood> Hi - how do i disable the opacity on inactive windows in kde?
[13:13] <krish> noob-africa: nah
[13:13] <alisoviy> ActionParsnip, ikonia, i dunno what params i must to tune in HD..
[13:14] <alisoviy> ActionParsnip, i am perfectly worked with PATA in Archlinux..
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> alisoviy: id have a web browse, it wont let you set stuff taht wont work
[13:14] <ikonia> alisoviy I gave you an example
[13:14] <krish> noob-africa: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_to_a_USB_Flash_Drive
[13:14] <noob-africa> Does anyone know whether HP recalled the nx6110? Where would I find out if they did? Someone down here told me there was a manufacturer's defect: Error 1782-Hard Disk Controller failure
[13:14] <humancat> 79 updates today? O_O or they just uploaded fake daily image
[13:14] <Mythril> I have a usb hard drive that shows up in gparted as being completely unallocated, but it mounts just fine as a fat32 partition, I am confused as all hell, any suggestions on how to reconcile the differences?
[13:15] <alisoviy> ActionParsnip, ikonia sht..( Ok, thanks.. ,)
[13:15] <soundray> noob-africa: you could look on the HP web site
[13:15] <krish> noob-africa: and if you dont want to go through installing to flash usb, get your drive repaired
[13:15] <soundray> Mythril: perhaps it's not partitioned?
[13:15] <krish> noob-africa: did it come preloaded with ubuntu
[13:15] <krish> ?
[13:16] <Mythril> soundray: how can that be? it is fat32?
[13:16] <humancat> Mythril: perhaps gparted sucks
[13:16] <soundray> humancat: if you can't be helpful, please don't say anything
[13:16] <sinan> how can i print a file to PDF?
[13:16] <soundray> Mythril: how are you mounting it?
[13:16] <Slart> Mythril: you can put a filesystem on a drive without partitioning it first
[13:16] <Mythril> it automounts
[13:16] <humancat> soundray: actually its you who not helpfull, and i'm the one who bring light here
[13:17] <Mythril> it's usb
[13:17] <noob-africa> krish: no... it was a Windows 2000 Pro machine...  I'm having trouble. I've installed all the required codecs (from the media repos) afaik, but amarok still says  "there is no available decoder"
[13:17] <soundray> Mythril: what's the corresponding line in the output of 'mount'?
[13:17] <krish> noob-africa: then be careful with service center guys. I've seen people blame the hardware issue on linux
[13:17] <soundray> sinan: install cups-pdf
[13:17] <soundray> !info cups-pdf | sinan
[13:17] <krish> brb all
[13:17] <soundray> humancat: thanks for clarifying that
[13:18] <humancat> 79 updates today? O_O or they just uploaded fake daily image
[13:18] <Mythril> soundray: /dev/sdb1 on /media/SEA_DISK type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[13:18] <noob-africa> krish: yea, they always take the easy way out... last time they couldnt repair my crashed Win XP Pro on Dell Dimension XPS Gen 4, they blamed it on the HARD DRIVES! They are fine, by the way! LOL
[13:18] <Slart> humancat: no updates from my servers
[13:18] <soundray> Mythril: did you start gparted with gksudo?
[13:19] <humancat> Slart: i just installed from daily build from 16 Nov, and it show 79 updates available (70 Mbytes)
[13:19] <jobe> amarok....wma...amyone?
[13:19] <Pici> humancat: Which version of Ubuntu?
[13:19] <Mythril> soundray: yeah, I chose it from the administration menu
[13:19] <Slart> jobe: never actually had any wma's to try.. sorry
[13:19] <humancat> Pici: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20081116/intrepid-desktop-i386.iso
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: yuo can test them with te manufacturers tools, most are on the ultimate boot cd
[13:21] <soundray> Mythril: does 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb' show a partition table?
[13:21] <ncfi1013_> what is bitcomet
[13:21] <heret1c1> jobe: tried vlc or audacious?
[13:21] <Slart> ncfi1013_: seriously.. you've googled for it, right???
[13:21] <jobe> slart: lucky you :)
[13:21] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: well, i dont have any of the manufacturer's cds... i have no idea where they are... lol
[13:21] <Pici> humancat: Dunno, sorry. I wasn't even aware they were still doing daily iso builds.
[13:21] <Mythril> soundray:    sdb1                    Primary   Linux                           300066.44
[13:21] <Haegin> rdw200169_: hi, do you know where i can find info on assigning dns hostnames randomly as you mentioned?
[13:21] <Slart> jobe: hehe.. that's one way to look at it
[13:22] <ikonia> Pici doesn't look like they are the md5 sum hasn't changed
[13:22] <jobe> heret1: yes, they work in vlc and mplayer, but I have a lot of them, and want to integrate them into the rest of my collection in amarok. is it just because the 64 wma package that amarok uses is pants do you think?
[13:22] <humancat> Pici: i like daily builds for released versions of ubuntu, they ussually contain all updates
[13:22] <soundray> Mythril: so cfdisk sees the partition table, but gparted doesn't -- that's strange
[13:22] <Slart> jobe: doesn't amarok use.. gstreamer?
[13:22] <jobe> heret1: i have got the functionality in 32bit distros many times before
[13:22] <soundray> Mythril: what were you going to do with gparted on this drive?
[13:23] <heret1c1> jobe: dunno. 32-bit here (and gnome).
[13:23] <jobe> slart: under engine in amarok settings it just refers to xine
[13:23] <Mythril> soundray: what I find stranger is that cfdisk says it is a 'linux' partition, but mount claims to have mounted it as vfat
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> noob-africa: dont need em, just find out what make the HDD is and scan it with the tool on UBCD
[13:23] <ackbahr> Hi! I recently upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, and I noticed today that when I plugged USB storage devices (I tried all those I had), there was no automount! Could someone help me pleasE?
[13:23] <Mythril> soundray: actually I was trying to figure out why it wouldn't mount in windows
[13:23] <jobe> heret1c1: ok, thanks anyway :)
[13:23] <Titan> does anyone have the firefox 3.0.4 user agent on ubuntu
[13:24] <Mythril> soundray: because windows has... nothing for tools in that regard
[13:24] <soundray> Mythril: trust mount. What cfdisk shows is just a label. If you change the label to 0b or 0c, it will mount in Windows.
[13:24] <achadwick> Mythril: if it mounts as vfat, it's vfat. The type flag in the partition table can be changed to matche with cfdisk or fdisk.
[13:24] <ncfi1013_> how come when somebody talks to me the responses come in red letters
[13:25] <Slart> jobe: there seems to be a yauap engine available for amarok.. perhaps it does better with wma's..
[13:25] <Slart> !info amarok-engine-yauap
[13:25] <soundray> Mythril: hit 't' in cfdisk to change the partition type, then select 0c (probably), then write and reboot.
[13:25] <Slart> ncfi1013_: it recognizes your nickname
[13:26] <Slart> ncfi1013_: so any line that contains your nickname get some special treatment.. like coloring, sound etc
[13:26] <noob-africa> ActionParsnip: i just found out the solution... go to http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread3401.html and scroll all the way down... am definitely gonna try the solution
[13:26] <noob-africa> bye all, stay blessed
[13:26] <ncfi1013_> is there any way to change the color
[13:27] <SOURdiesel> how come when i copy something from a browser window and close the window, what i coppied disappears and the paste option is greyed?
[13:27] <Slart> Titan: "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/2008101315 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.3" is for 3.0.3.. perhaps it's just a different number at the end
[13:27] <ncfi1013_> what color are my questions to you
[13:27] <Slart> ncfi1013_: regular color.. since you didn't say my nick
[13:27] <Mythril> soundray: thnks that fixed it
[13:28] <bullgard4> mc lists for my file /media/tmp: "Owner name: root; Group name:999." In /etc/group I can find 'root'. But I cannot find '999'. What does mean "Group name:999"?
[13:28] <Slart> ncfi1013_: you can set the different colors and such in your client.. probably in preferences or something like that.. it's different for each client
[13:28] <M0badedr> hello
[13:28] <vallhalla81> hi all is it better to use a 64 bit or 32 bit distro?
[13:28] <cleaton> is there some way i can change the kernel/add extra drivers to the ubuntu mini install cd?
[13:29] <doors98> hello to everyone,i'm a newbie and i'm having a hard time printing to a windows printer from ubuntu, my printer is hp deskjet 2460, i follwed the instructions from the documentation but i cant find my printer number
[13:29] <ikonia> vallhalla81: depends on your hardware and needs
[13:29] <M0badedr> does anyone know abt fwbuilder??
[13:29] <ikonia> M0badedr: ask the question
[13:29] <gaelfx> I'm trying to set my user icon in Pidgin, but every time I select a file, pidgin unexpectedly quits
[13:29] <krish> doors98: you mean network printer
[13:29] <M0badedr> i wanna conf my iptables through it on ubuntu server
[13:29] <blackgraz> gaelfx: have you tried removing and reinstalling pidgin
[13:29] <joaopinto> gaelfx, please file a bug report at launchpad.net
[13:29] <doors98> krish, yap i want to prnt on a network which has a windows print server
[13:29] <SOURdiesel> is the /tmp folder supposed to have a number of folders even after you clear temp files?
[13:30] <joaopinto> blackgraz, reinstalling pidgin does not usually fixes problems
[13:30] <Slart> ncfi1013_: you're using xchat, so check out http://www.xchat.org/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat for some documentation or info
[13:30] <vallhalla81> ikonia: i have a 64 bit machine but i was told once that many programs would not run on the 64 distros
[13:30] <joaopinto> vallhalla81, not many, some :P
[13:30] <M0badedr> ikonia:any help ???
[13:30] <Slart> vallhalla81: some programs... not many..
[13:30] <jobe> slart: how would you change amarok from xine to yauap?
[13:30] <ikonia> vallhalla81 very few
[13:31] <gaelfx> vallhalla81: a couple years ago, that was true, but most things run on it now
[13:31] <ncfi1013_> Slart: how do i know which bitcomet client to download/install? how do i know what type of computer i have? whether it's amd64 or x86 or intel x86?
[13:31] <ikonia> M0badedr: what do you want to know ?
[13:31] <krish> doors98: how did you try to configure it
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> blackgraz: you could also rename ~/.purple and rerun
[13:31] <joaopinto> is there an easy way to set conditional name resolution, like using different dns server ips based on the hostname domain ?
[13:31] <Slart> jobe: install the package, restart amarok and see if you can change anything in amarok preferences
[13:31] <vallhalla81> any of the main ones and is there a vm that will run on a 64 distro
[13:31] <SOURdiesel> is the /tmp folder supposed to have a number of folders even after you clear temp files?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: i dont think dns is that smart, just put the most used one at the top
[13:32] <krish> doors98: you gotta be fast. I have to run some place
[13:32] <Slart> ncfi1013_: bitcomet is one program that handles the bittorrent protocoll.. there are many bittorrent clients, bitcomet, azureus, utorrent, deluge etc.. pick anyone you like and can work with.. they all talk to each other
[13:32] <xukun> hi all. I'm using ubuntu 8.4 64 bits with lvm and fakeraid. If I upgrade to 8.10 is there something I need to worry about?
[13:32] <doors98> krish: i'm on the print window on ubuntu and it can successfully detect the windows printer but it wont print
[13:32] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, the problemis that I have a local domain, server by a dns server, and the internet server, and I need both for every hostname
[13:32] <doors98> krish:after i install the hp driver
[13:32] <Janacek> hi... I've really stupidly locked myself out; i only have one user, and I've done passwd -l on that user; I can't get to a grub screen to boot into single user mode, as my keyboard doesn't work that early; Can I remove the passwd in /etc/shadow using the livecd? I know that can be done on older solaris - but does the same work for linux?
[13:32] <krish> doors98: have you configure it!
[13:33] <doors98> krish:configure? how
[13:33] <krish> during configuration you need to select Windows Networked Printer
[13:33] <Slart> ncfi1013_: you can check what version of ubuntu you have by typing "lsb_release -a" or "uname -a" in a terminal.. it doesn't mean your computer is of the same kind though
[13:33] <ikonia> Janacek yes you can
[13:33] <Janacek> ok i try that
[13:33] <SOURdiesel> is the /tmp folder supposed to have a number of folders even after you clear temp files?
[13:33] <xukun> anybody please?
[13:33] <jobe> ncfi1013_: I recommend azureus. its heavier than other clients, but very fully featured
[13:33] <Slart> SOURdiesel: aren't those tmp-files that are being used right now?
[13:34] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with gigabit network card going very slow, are there some issues with gigabit on 8.10 ?
[13:34] <humancat> i have a problem where downloading big files with firefox lead to firefox consuming all available memory and system responsiveness lost. same with transmission. (also firefox problem also happen on specific webiste) and same happen with mandriva installer.  512 mbytes of ram should be enough for these tasks?
[13:34] <jobe> ncfi1013_: (azureus is not called vuze)
[13:34] <doors98> krish:i just followed the steps, but i cant find an exact number of my hp deskhet whch is 2460
[13:34] <gaelfx> ncfi1013_: Transmission is pretty fully featured, only the gui doesn't look exactly the same as most of the other clients
[13:34] <jgoguen> SOURdiesel: yes, what remains in /tmp/ are files and folders still in use by running programs, so they can't be cleaned up
[13:34] <krish> oh
[13:34] <ncfi1013_> i have an i686
[13:34] <doors98> krish:i can only see on ubuntu 2000 and 2500
[13:34] <jobe> humancat: have you tried downthemall! plugin for FF?
[13:34] <SOURdiesel> Slart:  i hope so.
[13:34] <ikonia> humancat if it's happeneing with ubuntu and mandriva - then I'd expect it to be a bug n firefox
[13:34] <Slart> chadeldridge: nothing I've noticed, I have gigabit networking at my home LAN
[13:34] <krish> doors98: so cant I on hp deskjet 4375
[13:34] <gaelfx> but if you really want a fully featured torrent program, try rtorrent :D
[13:34] <krish> but 4370 drivers seem to work for me
[13:35] <krish> doors98: check this http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Configuring_Ubuntu_Linux_Printers and use some near matched model number (check tray types too)
[13:35] <krish> gotta go now
[13:35] <chadeldridge> Slart: maybe its just this card then, getting around 500kb/sec to the server right now
[13:35] <krish> ciao
[13:35] <doors98> krish:i tried 2000 and 2500 but it cant print,
[13:35] <FloodBot1> krish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <humancat> jobe: not tried plugin. i just use wget to downloading big files...
[13:35] <doors98> krish:it says that the printer is idle after i installed the drivers
[13:35] <jobe> some of the kio slaves dont work in kde4 right? like kio sysinfo
[13:35] <Slart> chadeldridge: are you sure it isn't the server that's limiting the transfer?
[13:36] <jobe> humancat: well there you go, why do you need FF downloader if you use wget?
[13:36] <humancat> ikonia: its not only firefox, its also transmission, and mandriva one installer program
[13:36] <ncfi1013_> there is no option for 32 bit
[13:36] <humancat> jobe: wrong question. right question is why firefox consume all memory
[13:36] <chadeldridge> Slart: no it has quad giga cards in it ... its sitting pretty idle atm because im usually the first person in the morning to start hitting it hard
[13:36] <Cosmo-san> how do I run a program as well as compile it in the same line?
[13:36] <ikonia> Cosmo-san they are two seperate tasks
[13:36] <jobe> humancat: :P
[13:37] <Cosmo-san> e.g.   g++ program.cpp    and    ./a.out
[13:37] <doors98> krish:the printer says ready suppose to be right? but it says its  idle
[13:37] <Cosmo-san> this i realize, but I also know it is possible
[13:37] <ikonia> Cosmo-san seperate with &&
[13:37] <Janacek> ikonia: have removed the password - but still can't login :(
[13:37] <Cosmo-san> thank you
[13:37] <ikonia> Janacek you did the shadow file right ?
[13:37] <Janacek> yeah
[13:37] <ikonia> Janacek what is the username your trying to login as ?
[13:37] <Janacek> so where the secret goes
[13:37] <Janacek> i removed it
[13:37] <Janacek> so now it goes ::
[13:38] <Cosmo-san> sweet, quick answer.  thank you ikonia
[13:38] <ikonia> Janacek what is the username your trying to login as ?
[13:38] <Slart> chadeldridge: well.. I'm not saying all gigabit cards work flawlessly on ubuntu.. there might be a driver problem with your brand
[13:38] <Janacek> instead of :somerubbish: - my username is "case"
[13:38] <chadeldridge> Slart: ok .. i have a few others laying around .. intel should be a safe bet?
[13:39] <ikonia> Janacek that should work fine
[13:39] <doors98> krish: its very easy suppose to be to install a printer on ubuntu to print on windows right?
[13:39] <Janacek> well at xdm, i enter case
[13:39] <Janacek> and then enter (for no passwd)
[13:39] <Janacek> and get login incorrect
[13:39] <Slart> chadeldridge: your guess is as good as mine.. I use my onboard network connection.. some kind of nvidia chipset I think
[13:39] <chadeldridge> Slart: kk
[13:39] <ikonia> Janacek: grep caste /etc/shadow and lets have a look
[13:39] <Mr_Bad_News> whats the command to compare files to see if they are the same?
[13:39] <doors98> to anyone: its very easy suppose to be to install a printer on ubuntu to print on windows right?
[13:39] <ikonia> grep case sorry
[13:39] <ikonia> Mr_Bad_News diff
[13:39]  * Janacek reboots into livecd
[13:39] <Slart> Mr_Bad_News: diff, md5, crc
[13:40] <Mr_Bad_News> is there a command that i can use to find files that are the same through the entire file system?
[13:40] <Mr_Bad_News> i have downloads of the same file a couple times
[13:40] <Slart> Mr_Bad_News: there are a few... duff I think one is called
[13:40] <tripps> hello. I've got many files where I would like to perform a multi-line search matching a block between two words (actually a several hundred line javascript function) and replace this in each file with the contents of another file. What is the best way to do this? I'm familiar with sed and have played with kfilereplace and others but can't seem to get it to work
[13:41] <Janacek> Mr_Bad_News: fdupes iirc
[13:41] <Slart> Mr_Bad_News: fdupes is another one
[13:41] <Mr_Bad_News> is there something like find| .... to find files that are the same in different directories
[13:41] <doors98> this is my very first install on ubuntu and my very first use but my printer is hindering me to continue using ubuntu, i guess its time to go back again for pirated windows
[13:41] <Janacek> Mr_Bad_News: you could write a pipeline, sure, using md5 or something, but fdupes does this already
[13:42] <chris062689> Hello
[13:42] <Haegin> can the ubuntu preseed files use variables of any form?
[13:42] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone have a shell script for what i need?
[13:43] <Slart> doors98: ok, have fun
[13:43] <doors98> has any1 tried to install a network printer on windows (hp deskjet 2460)? this printer is giving me a hard time
[13:43] <Mr_Bad_News> something that can search the entire file system for files named the same thing
[13:43] <Janacek> Mr_Bad_News: are you ignoring me? apt-get install fdupes
[13:43] <roy_hobbs> I'm having trouble with the NetworkManager.  The connections that I've selected as "System setting" do not seem to become system connections.
[13:44] <doors98> slart: have u had a hard time installing a printer before on ubuntu to prnt on windows network printer?
[13:44] <azize> salu
[13:44] <Mr_Bad_News> Janacek, i did
[13:44] <Mr_Bad_News> now i need a script
[13:44] <Mr_Bad_News> to delete mutliple files
[13:44] <chris062689> rm
[13:45] <Slart> doors98: I don't think I've ever tried.. I've only used ubuntu to print from network printers that handle the networking themselves
[13:45] <azize>  c'est pas français
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !fr | azize
[13:45] <ikonia> !fr > azize
[13:46] <ikonia> !away > Evkaz
[13:46] <Janacek> Mr_Bad_News: if you have the list of files, you can just iterate over then and delete them
[13:47] <Evkaz> ubottu: ok
[13:47] <Slart> Mr_Bad_News: what's wrong with fdupes? or duff? or do you need the script to do something special?
[13:47] <gentlemen> Hello there World! Anyone who's an expert on wireless networks?
[13:47] <robin0800> doors98: I've done it ,it was easy with the right program
[13:47] <ikonia> gentlemen just ask teh question
[13:47] <doors98> slart: im slowly getting rid of windows on my internet shop thats why i'n trying to install ubuntu 1 by 1 so that my customers will experience using ubuntu, for the meantime they are going to print on windows
[13:47] <gentlemen> I can't connect to my netgear wireless network at home, but in school it worked just fine
[13:47] <doors98> robin800" please guide me then
[13:47] <ikonia> gentlemen what are the differences between school and homes acces point
[13:48] <gentlemen> I can see the other wireless networks around my block even, but not my own, and I've tried to connect via the "connect to a hidden network"
[13:48] <doors98> i have an hp deskjet 2460 what driver should i select if ubuntu promps me?
[13:48] <gentlemen> I don't really now
[13:48] <gentlemen> know*
[13:48] <Slart> doors98: what happens if you just click system, administration, printing and try to add it from there?
[13:48] <consanguinity> doors98: do you actually have a network printer (a printer connected directory to the network) or is it a local (USB/parallel/serial) printer attached to a Windows system?
[13:48] <gentlemen> I think my's a netgear and there's isnt
[13:48] <robin0800> doors98: use system-config-printer 1.0.5
[13:48] <ikonia> gentlemen what ehcyption does your school use ?
[13:48] <gentlemen> WPA
[13:48] <ikonia> gentlemen: what does your home one use?
[13:48] <gentlemen> and I've tried to set WPA to my router here at home
[13:48] <gentlemen> WEP
[13:48] <doors98> slart: i can add it from there but it wont print if i click print test page
[13:49] <ikonia> gentlemen: if you scan for it do you see teh sid
[13:49] <ikonia> gentlemen: what network card do you have/
[13:49] <DIFH-iceroot> gentlemen: if you use WEP or no encryption, its the same...
[13:49] <biophile> ikonia: I assume you are referring to security?
[13:49] <ikonia> biophile yes
[13:49] <Janacek> ikonia: think the problem is that passwd -l also sets the expiry time to 1
[13:49] <gentlemen> DIFH-iceroot: how can that be?
[13:49] <ikonia> Janacek ahhhh good catch
[13:49] <ikonia> Janacek: that makes sense
[13:49] <gentlemen> ikonia: Intel 5100 Link
[13:49] <DIFH-iceroot> gentlemen: WEP can be cracked withing 1 minute
[13:50] <robin0800> doors98: Did you brouse to find printer and check the share
[13:50] <gentlemen> DIFH-iceroot: that doesn't really care atm does it. I still can't connect, and I live in a block with only old people
[13:50] <Slart> doors98: might be some kind of setting.. there is a troubleshooting thingy for printers that lets you look at logs and what not.. have you seen it?
[13:50] <Amp> hey boy's i choice remuco and dont see how install in my cell phone no more than web's pages container's off remuco.jar and i dont see any one wenn i can download this midlet any one can help me pls i contrybute later :)
[13:50] <doors98> robin800 what is that, dowload it and install on ubuntu? or windows?
[13:50] <DIFH-iceroot> gentlemen: just wanted to inform you that WEP is unsafe like an open network
[13:50] <doors98> robin800: yap i can browse the printer on windws
[13:50] <ikonia> Amp what does your cell phone have to do with ubuntu ?
[13:50] <chris062689> Is anyone else experiencing problems with WINE and PulseAudio?  Mostly laggy / choppy sounds?
[13:50] <gentlemen> DIFH-iceroot: I appritiace (SPELLING!) it, and I don't wanna sound rude or anything.
[13:50] <Amp> remuco
[13:51] <ikonia> Amp sorry ?
[13:51] <Janacek> ikonia: stupid of me in the first place - I set sshd to not allow logins with passwords, but it still seemed to allow them, so i thought I'd just lock the account... misremmbeirng the command - passwd -d removes the password, but doesn't lock the account!
[13:51] <biophile> ikonia: I think using the terminal command'sudo scan wlan0(or elan0 for a wired connection)'
[13:51] <Protostar> can anybody tell me why my shift key has stopped working question mark
[13:51] <doors98> slart: im a total newbie dont know where t find the logs
[13:51] <ikonia> biophile what are you talking about ?
[13:51] <ikonia> Janacek well spotted
[13:51] <Slart> Protostar: stop having breakfast in front of the computer
[13:51] <Protostar> i've gone into system - keyboard, and fiddled, but to no avail, so i'm hoping you guys can help
[13:51] <robin0800> doors98: the program mentioned above does that its available by default in ubuntu but not kubuntu
[13:52] <Amp> i have a basic install of remuco server and app for ubuntu 8.10 and i want see my song's in my cell phone and have no longer for xplain but my cell phone only install a web .jar
[13:52] <biophile> ikonia: scanning to get information about the wireless network
[13:52] <doors98> robin800:yap i'm using ubuntu 8.10
[13:52] <soundray> Protostar: have they both stopped working?
[13:52] <Protostar> yeah
[13:52] <robin0800> d
[13:52] <ikonia> biophile I know how to use "iwscan" thanks, I'm not asking for any help
[13:52] <Protostar> works fine in windows, and the system stops highlighting boxes when i press it
[13:52] <gentlemen> How do I restart wpa_supplicant?
[13:53] <Slart> doors98: in system, administration, printing, right click on the printer and select properties, there you can print a test page.. if it doesn't work you should get some kind of troubelshooting guide
[13:53] <Protostar> so i'm assuming i've done something wrong
[13:53] <biophile> ikonia: what are you asking for then?
[13:53] <soundray> Protostar: it's probably a setting that you've made accidentally. Reboot to see if it goes away. If it doesn't, first thing to check is whether it still works on a text console.
[13:53] <Protostar> rebooting doesn't help, brb console
[13:53] <doors98> slart: i did that but the printer is idle
[13:53] <Protostar> nope, doesn't work in the console
[13:53] <Slart> Protostar: you've checked in system, preferences, keyboard, Layouts, "Other options" ? lots of weird settings there
[13:54] <ikonia> biophile I'm not asking for anything
[13:54] <ikonia> biophile: I was responding to someone else's question
[13:54] <Amp> any help
[13:54] <doors98> slart: what driver should i use if my printer is hp deskjet 2460?
[13:54] <doors98> robin800:  slart: what driver should i use if my printer is hp deskjet 2460?
[13:54] <PeskyJ> I have a bug and I'm trying to investigate it, what is the difference between printing to the "Print to file" and an installed printer?
[13:54] <Slart> doors98: well.. if I were you I'd check the windows computer.. see if it recieves anything when you try to print.. it could be a permission problem..
[13:54] <soundray> Amp: ask a question, preferably one related to the topic of this channel
[13:54] <b1> Ce_bRu_Kul_18
[13:54] <vallhalla81> !printer
[13:55] <Protostar> Slart, just looked, and everything seems ok
[13:55] <ced__> hay guys, eh quick question, how do i make a hardware report to a file (for example text)?
[13:55] <joaopinto> ced__, lshw > file.txt
[13:55] <biophile> ikonia: ah, sorry, I didn't understand
[13:55] <robin0800> doors98: start printer program and follow questions it will do it automatically
[13:55] <Slart> doors98: I'm not sure.. check http://linuxprinting.org . They have a long list of printers with settings and such
[13:55] <ced__> joaopinto: OK, thanks
[13:55] <sidewalk> how to i get Google gadgets running on Ubuntu 8.l10?
[13:55] <sidewalk> 8.10
[13:56] <Amp> is for remuco i sai frist and i be install my cell phone a client for see my song's in the rhytmbox and need too download a remuco.jar from the web any idea
[13:56] <sinan> where does cups-pdf supposedly print?
[13:56] <joaopinto> there is package on the google repositories, i think
[13:56] <soundray> Protostar: sounds like a hardware problem then
[13:56] <Guest4468> how do you make a URI replacer?
[13:56] <bazhang> Amp, where did you install remuco into ubuntu from; please provide a link
[13:56] <Slart> sinan: ~/PDF I think
[13:56] <doors98> what is cups?
[13:56] <soundray> Amp: I can't understand your question. Try using punctuation.
[13:56] <sidewalk> !google-gadgets
[13:56] <Slart> !cups
[13:56] <sidewalk> !gadgets
[13:56] <Guest4468> how to do it when someone types, www.website1.com and they'll get website2.com?
[13:57] <Amp> https://launchpad.net/~simontol/+archive
[13:57] <Protostar> soundtray, works in windows though, it's just a usb keyboard
[13:57] <sinan> Slart: then, i think it is not working. anyone can help trouble shoot?
[13:57] <sinan> Slart: nevermind, i gtg :)
[13:57] <vallhalla81> !windows
[13:57] <Smorg> The apt-get manual says it is primarily a back-end. Is it just a lib? Is there some other command line interface for controlling it?
[13:57] <Slart> Guest4468: are you using apache?
[13:57] <Protostar> Ah
[13:57] <Guest4468> no I have a site at my provider
[13:57] <soundray> Protostar: solved it?
[13:58] <platius> sidewalk; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-google-gadgets-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html    you might modify this to work
[13:58] <Slart> Smorg: aptitude, apt-get are two command line interfaces
[13:58] <Protostar> If you set Compiz's Slow Animations button to shift, it stops working
[13:58] <woody86> why would I be able to connect through WEP but not WAP with the same key?
[13:58] <Protostar> That doesn't make sense, but what the hey :D
[13:58] <Slart> Guest4468: then you have to talk to your provider I think
[13:58] <doors98> thank you so much to all who replied, i'l try to do it again,
[13:58] <Protostar> Anyway, thanks guys :)
[13:59] <Smorg> Slart: ah ok I thought aptitude was X
[13:59] <ubuntu__> How to add user in recovery mode [kubuntu 8.10]
[13:59] <ikonia> ubuntu__: useradd
[13:59] <Slart> Smorg: synaptic is gtk, aptitude and ap-get are command line
[13:59] <ikonia> ubuntu__: although I suggest you do this in multi-user mode
[13:59] <Amp> +4
[13:59] <ncfi1013_> who was it that told me that azureus is not called vuze? because when i look for it in adept azureus comes up as vuze.
[14:00] <Guest4468> is it illegal to use Internet Exlorer in linux?
[14:00] <Slart> ncfi1013_: the new version of azureus is called vuze afaik
[14:00] <ikonia> Guest4468 not if you have a valid windows license
[14:00] <SOURdiesel> ncfi1013: in Hardy is azureus, in intrepid it's vuze.
[14:01] <erUSUL> Guest4468: ask a lawyer never read the EULA of ie so i dunno if you can not run it in anything but windows...
[14:01] <ncfi1013_> oh i am running intrepid
[14:01] <SOURdiesel> ncfi1013: then for you it's Vuze 3. something i believe
[14:01] <Slart> !info azureus
[14:01] <mib_sky> how can I give a user read and write access to a directory and everything in it recursively?
[14:01] <Slart> !info vuze
[14:01] <Amp> help with install the .jar too my cell from remuco :)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest4468: i do it, not sure of legality though
[14:02] <Slart> woho.. only 10 kB.. smallest torrent client ever ;)
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Slart: hmmm :)
[14:02] <D7> hey, I have an AMD xp 1800+, 512mb ram and a geforce 6600 GT plugged into my TV set at 1920x1080x60hz and videos play a bit choppy, do I not have something setup right here, or is my hardware not capable?
[14:02] <Smorg> ah so this is similar gentoo's ebuild vs emerge programs. You rarely actually use ebuild directly.
[14:02] <bazhang> Amp, you should ask the keeper of that PPA
[14:02] <michael> i think my audio card just got fried :(
[14:03] <michael> anyone know a way i could test it somehow?
[14:03] <Slart> D7: I think the processor might be a bit on the slow side for 1080p material
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> god loves emerge
[14:03] <Amp> no is remuco.jar
[14:03] <michael> it was working fine, power cut off (i'm on a lap top tho) and now it doesn't work
[14:03] <D7> slart: it's only a futuroma dvd rip...
[14:03] <michael> i don't know what terminal command i could type to give me some info tho
[14:03] <Guest4468> ActionParsnip, what is the best browser atm for linux?
[14:03] <D7> slart: this happens when I full screen it
[14:03] <Deiselton> guys i got a question... my nvidia card uses the x.conf file to determine screen res and all that stuff... is there a way to write a script that test if there is a second monitor... then if there is load the display settings based on y.conf instead of x.conf?
[14:03] <ikonia> Guest4468: there are many to chose from, try them and see which one you like
[14:04] <PeskyJ> if I print to file from GIMP, then open the output.ps in document viewer and print that to the printer, it works perfectly, however if I print straight to the printer from GIMP (or image previewer) it doesn't work - what is the differences in the pipeline used for these two scenarios?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest4468: no such thing as "best"
[14:04] <bazhang> !best > Guest4468
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest4468: i love opera personally
[14:04] <Slart> Smorg: afaik apt-get,aptiture and synaptic all use the same back-end (apt).. I use both apt-get and synaptic.. different tools for different jobs
[14:04] <Smorg> Guest4468: The only browser I can think of that doesn't have a native linux port is internet explorer. take your pick.
[14:04] <ikonia> Deiselton: yes you can do that, I used to do it with a docked/undocked laptop
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest4468: but i also use firefox
[14:04] <wahyu> hhh
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> opera is awesome
[14:04] <Slart> D7: then I don't really understand why it doesn't work
[14:04] <Smorg> (major browser)
[14:04] <Deiselton> ikonia... ok well i can write the script... but i dont know how to test for a second monitor...
[14:05] <Deiselton> is there a command that shows display devices form the command line?
[14:05] <SOURdiesel> D7: does it do the same with retail DVD's?
[14:05] <ikonia> Deiselton I think I did it from edid information, I did an if edied = blah then copy xorg.dual xorg.conf else copy xorg.single xorg.conf
[14:05] <D7> SOURdiesel, I haven't tried a dvd... I will try now
[14:06] <doors98> what are the programming languages that linux developers use for desktop and web design?
[14:06] <Deiselton> ikonia.... ok well i have to do that BEFORE gnome loads... else it wont be able to change the file until after it boots...
[14:06] <Deiselton> how do i run the script before gnome loads?
[14:06] <ikonia> doors98: same as other, html/xhtml etc
[14:06] <D7> SOURdiesel, I'm tempted to just go buy a ps3, hahaha
[14:06] <ikonia> Deiselton: thats right
[14:06] <ikonia> Deiselton: set it to execute before the gdm init script
[14:06] <joaopinto> doors98,  python is very popular for desktop apps, and php for web
[14:07] <Slart> doors98: I use python and html/xhtml+css
[14:07] <Deiselton> iknonia... im a newb sorry but were is the script that handles the load sequences?
[14:07] <ikonia> Deiselton: /etc/init.d
[14:07] <Deiselton> its not services is it?
[14:07] <Deiselton> ahhh ok thatnks alot
[14:07] <michael> anyone know how i can test my sound card
[14:07] <michael> i think it just got fried
[14:08] <doors98> ikonia: and jao slart too: really, coz im trying to learn 1, is python easy to learn?
[14:08] <Deiselton> edied
[14:08] <michael> maybe a terminal command to give me some info on it?
[14:08] <Slart> michael: aplay /dev/urandom should give you some noise (might be loud)
[14:08] <ikonia> doors98 try it, some find it easy, others hard
[14:08] <D7> SOURdiesel, same issue with a dvd...
[14:08] <Deiselton> um edied and edid arent bash commands... hmm will have to research it
[14:08] <Slart> michael: there are some switches for aplay to get info about the soundcards.. man aplay for more info
[14:08] <soundray> Deiselton: try ddcprobe
[14:08] <eolo999> hi which is the right channel to ask for installer preseeding?
[14:08] <ikonia> doors98: ddcinfo
[14:08] <Smorg> xrandr will display devices
[14:09] <doors98> by the way, is the user interface for python drag and drop? or everything is hard coded?
[14:09] <Slart> doors98: python is pretty easy.. no need for compiling you just run it
[14:09] <soundray> Smorg: not with NVidia drivers though, or am I mistaken?
[14:09] <ikonia> doors98: ddcprobe
[14:09] <michael> Slart, should it be all crackly???
[14:09] <ikonia> doors98: drag and drop programming languages, I think not
[14:09] <Smorg> soundray: hm I don't have one here to test atm.
[14:09] <ikonia> Deiselton: ddcprobe sorry
[14:09] <ikonia> Deiselton: ignore ddcprobe - that wasn't for you
[14:10] <Slart> michael: it should just be noise.. regular "turn on the radio between stations" noise
[14:10] <Deiselton> ikonia yeah got it... have to install the xresprobe first
[14:10] <eolo999> ...or to get a list of ubuntu related irc channels?
[14:10] <michael> Slart, any idea what i could do next? ;)
[14:10] <doors98> i mean to display a button in python is hard coded, not clicking and dragging and done?
[14:10] <Slart> doors98: drag and drop.. I don't think there are many of those available for linux
[14:10] <michael> Slart, i have no idea how to go about this
[14:10] <bazhang> !irc > eolo999 check here last link
[14:10] <michael> Slart, i'm looking at the man pages now
[14:11] <NickName2> hello
[14:11] <Deiselton> ikonia ddcprobe as far as i can tell doesnt show anyhting as far as monitors or display devices... what am i looking for?
[14:11] <bahr> How do I install latex in Ubuntu 8.04. I heard there was an editor called Kile, which should be most similar to Texniccenter in Windows?
[14:11] <Slart> michael: I'm not on friendly terms with alsa myself.. we have a small agreement.. I don't mess with it and it keeps working most of the time..=)
[14:11] <ikonia> Deiselton if should output edid info for montiors
[14:11] <eolo999> ubottu: thx
[14:11] <ikonia> I've not used it in a while so can't remember the output
[14:11] <Deiselton> says edid:edidfail
[14:11] <eolo999> ok, a bot :)
[14:11] <Deiselton> i guys i dont have edid installed
[14:11] <ncfi1013_> is the gnome bittorent client ok for kde? what about python? what is emerge?
[14:11] <Deiselton> will continue researchuing
[14:11] <Slart> bahr: try lyx.. I think there are some other editors out there too
[14:11] <michael> Slart, i was like that too, then it just stopped working.  also on my windows dual boot :(
[14:12] <SOURdiesel> D7: hmmm...
[14:12] <Smorg> Deiselton: ktorrent
[14:12] <soundray> bahr: you need the texlive packages. I suggest you have a look at LyX
[14:12] <Deiselton> ktorrent has the edid command?
[14:12] <sledgeas> hello
[14:12] <ikonia> Deiselton ktorrent is a torrent program ?
[14:12] <sledgeas> I have instructions how to connect to my workplace VPN through windows network connections (asks for company namy->ip->user/pass). how do i connect to it through my linux? i edit /etc/openvpn/default.conf but i dont know group_id etc.. and it does not connect
[14:12] <ikonia> Deiselton: why would that have a monitor information detection command
[14:13] <eolo999> bazhang: thanx
[14:13] <Deiselton> ikonia... i dont know... why would he tell me ktorrent when im asking about the edid command if it didnt have anything to do with it :)
[14:13] <D7> SOURdiesel, yep, this sucks, hahah...
[14:13] <Slart> michael: I'm sorry.. can't really help you with that.. perhaps someone else can
[14:13] <Smorg> Deiselton: oops wrong name.
[14:13] <ikonia> Deiselton I have no idea what he's on about then
[14:13] <Deiselton> hahaha smorg
[14:13] <soundray> sledgeas: have a look at the relevant network-manager packages (apt-cache search network manager vpn)
[14:13] <Smorg> :D
[14:13] <SOURdiesel> D7: could be cpu/ram related
[14:13] <bahr> ok, how do I install that, I'm pretty new to ubuntu, I want to have a complete latex installation, like miktex offers?
[14:13] <michael> Slart, thanks for the help!
[14:13] <NickName2> Can multiple users login the same time to their account ?
[14:13] <sledgeas> thanks soundray
[14:14] <Slart> michael: you're welcome
[14:14] <soundray> sledgeas: install the one that fits your need. Then you can configure it through a right-click on nm-applet
[14:14] <Slart> NickName2: I think ubuntu can do multiple users at the same time, yes
[14:14] <Slart> NickName2: although only one at a time
[14:14] <sledgeas> gtocha
[14:14] <NickName2> Yeah... I mean 2 or more in the same time using VNC
[14:14] <biophile> how do I install IdLE in the terminal?
[14:14] <nomic> multiple login sessions nickname2
[14:15] <NickName2> or any other remote app.
[14:15] <D7> SOURdiesel, yeah, perhaps
[14:15] <Slart> NickName2: that should work afaik
[14:15] <soundray> NickName2: yes. You have to run multiple instances of VNC
[14:15] <Smorg> ncfi1013_: ktorrent is kde's native client (I like it.) Deluge is gnome's and yes you can run it on kde. Deluge is built on python, and you should have python on your system anyway.
[14:15] <Pici> biophile: sudo apt-get install idle
[14:15] <SOURdiesel> D7: it happends.  just like i crashed ubuntu for the first time last night.  lol
[14:15] <biophile> pici: I tried that
[14:15] <ncfi1013_> how do i get that? thru adept?
[14:15] <Pici> biophile: and?
[14:15] <PeskyJ> NickName2: you can have multiple users logged on to an X session using the XDMCP login - VNC can only connect to the active local display
[14:16] <Smorg> ncfi1013_: yes i suppose you could.
[14:16] <Slart> PeskyJ: nope
[14:16] <NickName2> PeskyJ: I tried the XDMCP login but with no success...
[14:16] <soundray> PeskyJ: that's not correct. You can run multiple VNC servers.
[14:16] <sidewalk> has anyone had Google Gadgets working under 8.10?
[14:16] <biophile> pici: E: unable to lock download directory
[14:16] <Deiselton> hmmm were do i get edid?... found a post that said it was call get-edid but it couldnt find the package... tried edid and got the same
[14:16] <PeskyJ> soundray: really? ok I stand corrected - I tried that and it didn't work
[14:16] <Slart> PeskyJ: vnc handles multiple users.. a few vnc servers (only one I think) only uses the current session
[14:17] <Sebboh> I'm in Intrepid.  I've seen a little box popup that says "hey there are some restricted drivers available".  Ok, yes, I want to get them.  But, then the computer crashed, and now the box is gone.  How can I restart that process?
[14:17] <michael> anyone know much about 'aplay'?
[14:17] <Pici> biophile: Make sure you don't have another apt frontend open, such as aptitude  or synaptic, or adept.
[14:17] <xukun> hi all. I need your help very fast. I'm upgrading to 8.10 but now I get the message: space left on /var.  I,m using raid1 with lvm so I need help extending the /var
[14:17] <nomic> piophile you are unable to lock it because you dont have the permissions to access it under your username
[14:17] <Pici> biophile: Or you aren't using sudo.
[14:17] <nomic> chmod it
[14:17] <michael> in the terminal aplay a.mp3 just make a crackling noise
[14:17] <lordleemo> Does anyone know were i can get Winff deb for Gutsy
[14:17] <j_77> hi - i just logged back into ubuntu and found my external usb drive is not showing up - could someone help?  I've been using Ibex since its release and never had a problem with it mounting - could it have something to do with installing SP3 in XP?
[14:17] <Ndle55> hi im having trouble compiling pftpfxp-mew. ./configure --> ok you can do make dynamic now
[14:17] <biophile> pici: I forgot about my update manager.
[14:18] <NickName2> You sure I can install multiple VNC servers ?
[14:19] <Smorg> j_77: no it couldn't have anything to do with windows. Also, what do you mean by "not showing up"? The block device isn't showing up? or it isn't auto-mounting. If the latter, check your /etc/fstab. If the former, it might be udev.
[14:19] <Ndle55> hi im having trouble compiling pftpfxp-mew. ./configure --> ok you can do make dynamic now error : array bound after parenthesized type-id note: tr removing the parentheses around type-id. Can somebody help me?
[14:19] <soundray> PeskyJ, NickName2: something like 'vncserver :1 ; vncserver :2' would start two servers on different ports. You cannot see them, except through a vnc client.
[14:19] <rdz> hi all. i am running intrepid on a machine with core 2 duo machine. on hardy i had two separate cpus in /sys/devices/system/cpu/ , now in intrepid only one appears. how can i make sure, that i am using the full potential of my hardware?
[14:19] <j_77> the block device does not show up in PCFileman, it shows in Nautilus but cannot mount it, even as root
[14:19] <hololight> Gnome will not finish starting for one account but works fine for another. Thoughts?
[14:20] <soundray> hololight: look in $HOME/.xsession-errors for clues
[14:20] <ncfi1013_> will i be able to download and install for python if i don't have it
[14:20] <filthpig> lordleemo, here I guess http://code.google.com/p/winff/
[14:20] <j_77> Smorg: the block device does not show up in PCFileman, it shows in Nautilus but cannot mount it, even as root
[14:20] <Deiselton> ikonia: through articles i verified that edit and xresprobe is not used in ubuntu 7 and later... but none of them say what replaces it....
[14:20] <soundray> hololight: compare the one in the successful account with the unsuccessful one
[14:20] <Deiselton> edid not edit
[14:21] <JackWinter_> hmm, something must have gotten out of synch.  in adept (kubuntu) when specifying installation of the msttcorefonts the description shows "nvidia cg toolkit installer", how do i reset ?
[14:21] <Smorg> j_77: do it from the command line. When you do, is there an error? Also, check dmesg for errors when plugging in the device.
[14:21] <ikonia> Deiselton they are not used, but you can use them to detect a monitor
[14:21] <Deiselton> ikonia... i cant even download them...
[14:21] <ikonia> oh really
[14:21] <ikonia> rats,
[14:21] <lordleemo> filthpig: Yeah i know that but thats for hardy . i dont want to compile it i want the old gutsy deb
[14:21] <darksifer> hi everyone. am having problems connecting to certain websites like msn.com. but this is not the only one. i had used several browsers. i have reset my router and still i have the same problem. can some one help me plz. i had some mail to check.
[14:21] <j_77> Smorg: from the command line it says 'no such file or directory"
[14:22] <ikonia> darksifer: maybe a problem with those websites?
[14:22] <erkin> hi, i upgraded to 8.10, now my sound driver doesn't work. Now that I chose oss, i can listen to mp3's but still startup sound and sound in flash videos are crappy. what can i do?
[14:22] <Deiselton> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/1259279
[14:22] <Smorg> j_77: even though theres a file in /dev matching what you type? strange.
[14:22] <darksifer> ikonia: this had been the same for almost 2 weeks
[14:22] <j_77> Smorg: maybe it has changed
[14:22] <ikonia> Deiselton thats frusting, let me see if I can figure out another way to do it
[14:22] <ikonia> darksifer: dns cache polluted ?
[14:22] <D7> SOURdiesel, ok, so I will try my sempron 2800/1gb of ram, and if thats a no go, I'm gonna get a ps3, hahaha
[14:22] <apeiron> ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ...
[14:22] <j_77> Smorg: whats the commandto view all devices connectvia usb?
[14:22] <apeiron> ... ''''''''''''''''''
[14:23] <darksifer> ikonia:what is dns polluted?
[14:23] <hololight> What file controls which programs/ applets are started when gnome starts?
[14:23] <Ndle55> hi im having trouble compiling pftpfxp-mew.   ./configure --> ok you can do make dynamic now    error : array bound after parenthesized type-id   note: tr removing the parentheses around type-id.   parentheses around type-id?
[14:23] <slowlearner> hi please help, i'm having problems with my network.. it freezes from time to time.. i'm dual booting with xp but then xp works fine
[14:23] <ikonia> darksifer your dns resolution from your isp giving out bad info
[14:23] <Guest21232> hello, my usb wifi card belkin F5D7050 does not work in ubuntu, can someone help me?
[14:24] <fred_> i need help opening my newly installet first class conference client.. i installed it into opt/firstclass and now there is a file there, fcc, that doesnt do anything if i click it
[14:24] <senorgomez> Hello
[14:24] <darksifer> ikonia: then how can i correct this?
[14:24] <Smorg> j_77: I don't know that you can view them. Just ls /dev and see if you have any extra hd* or sd* devices than you normally would. that should be the usb device. Also, if you check your dmesg the kernel should log where it is when plugging it in.
[14:24] <ikonia> darksifer: I'm only making a guess, contact your isp ?
[14:25] <filthpig> lordleemo, was it ever made for gutsy? Compiling it is not really that difficult either, and then you can build your own deb for it
[14:25] <mon^rch> has anyone ever tried quake2 under wine?
[14:25] <senorgomez> I wish to use a background image that is on my NTFS partition, is there a way to mount it on startup? Right now it just shows a brown screen when I restart.
[14:26] <Ndle55> hi im having trouble compiling pftpfxp-mew.   ./configure --> ok you can do make dynamic now    error : array bound after parenthesized type-id   note: tr removing the parentheses around type-id.   parentheses around type-id? Where can i find this? I dont see anything about it in the makefile. Any ideas?
[14:26] <j_77> Smorg: when i access the /media directory where the drive mounts, i get an error saying 'Input/Output error'  - any help?
[14:26] <JackWinter_> mon^rch: i run descent3 under wine, so chanes are that quake2 would run too
[14:26] <lordleemo> filthpig: its alright my friend .. ill get a copy of the deb from a mate of mine .thanks for your time
[14:26] <darksifer> ikonia: i have done tracert to msn.com. i get request time out aroung 10th hops
[14:26] <soundray> !appdb > mon^rch
[14:26] <ikonia> Ndle55 what are you trying to build
[14:26] <woody86> is anyone here good with decrypting bootchart logs??
[14:26] <ikonia> darksifer network down ?
[14:26] <fred_> How can i open my opt/firstclass/fcc file?
[14:26] <erkin> hi, i upgraded to 8.10, now my sound driver doesn't work. Now that I chose oss, i can listen to mp3's but still startup sound and sound in flash videos are crappy. what can i do?
[14:26] <Ndle55> ikonia : pftpfxp-mew
[14:26] <j_77> cd
[14:26] <ncfi1013_> bye guys thanks for all your help going to bed now
[14:27] <mon^rch> JackWinter_: great! does it have opengl?
[14:27] <ikonia> Ndle55 I can't find much info on it, what is it, an ftp client ?
[14:27] <Ndle55> ikonia : i need an ftpclient with a search feature
[14:27] <senorgomez> I wish to use a background image that is on my NTFS partition, is there a way to mount it on startup? Right now it just shows a brown screen when I restart, not the background image.
[14:27] <slowlearner> hi please help, i'm having problems with my network.. it freezes from time to time.. i'm dual booting with xp but then xp works fine
[14:27] <simmerz> hi. I've just installed ubuntu on my new laptop. when i try and installed the nvidia restricted drivers, it asks me for my password, then shows me a download screen temporarily, but that disappears and nothing happens. any ideas?
[14:27] <ikonia> Ndle55: never even heard of that
[14:27] <darksifer> ikonia: thanks you. i think am going to phone my isp
[14:27] <Ndle55> ikonia: its text based en you can use it in combination with irssi
[14:28] <JackWinter_> mon^rch: i'm running the opengl engine under wine.  have a nvidia fdx card.  everything runs great.  in fact better than the linux port
[14:28] <gammy> Is anyone here actually running ubuntu server (intrepid) on a server without running into tons of issues?
[14:28] <mon^rch> ty
[14:28] <ikonia> gammy I have been doing, not got a server next to me,
[14:28] <darksifer> can someone tell me a program to make an iso from a  dvd movie
[14:28] <Kodo> senorgomez: add an entry for it in /etc/fstab
[14:28] <Delvien> simmerz: go to softwares sources i
[14:28] <gammy> ikonia: That's amazing.
[14:28] <soundray> !info k9copy | darksifer
[14:29] <senorgomez> Thanks Kodo
[14:29] <JackWinter_> mon^rch: maybe you should ask in #winehq instead :)
[14:29] <Delvien> simmerz: go to softwares sources under system admin and activate third party and other repos
[14:29] <wayneward> is http://www.getdeb.net/  offline?..
[14:29] <gammy> ikonia: I have eight severe, unsolvable, open problems and nobody even has a clue as to what to do about it. As I see it now, I can't actually continue using ubuntu because it's so damn faulty
[14:29] <gammy> ikonia: Which really stings :(
[14:30] <ikonia> gammy what sort of problems ?
[14:30] <PeskyJ> what is a good program for capturing DV from a video camera? Also what is a good video editing and effects suite? I'm looking through the sound+video list in add/remove and the selection is m ind-boggling
[14:30] <simmerz> Delvien: ok. I'll try that. just doing an aptitude upgrade
[14:30] <Delvien> gammy with that kind of atitude you are not help-able :)
[14:30] <gammy> ikonia: issues with cron, ghost errors in logs, PAM, apache2 segfaulting, numerous problems causing serious downtimes. All hardware has been tested without any problems
[14:31] <erkin> i have exact situation that's pointed in the forums : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=944742 . Any suggestion for this?
[14:31] <gammy> Delvien: It was not help I was after - I seriously wanted to know if anyone had succeeded.
[14:31] <ikonia> gammy not sure what ghost errros are, apache2 sefaulting must have something to do with your hardware as it's stable on hundreds of other hardware platforms, pam, well are you using it stock or changing it anythng #(I use it with ldap auth)
[14:31] <Delvien> gammy at what/?
[14:31] <JackWinter_> PeskyJ: i found for basic editing (no fx), dvbcut is unbeatable.  think i installed all the packages and they all drove me mad in one way or another :)
[14:32] <ikonia> gammy: I'm always interest in things like that, check out #ubuntu-server and see if people want to walk some stuff through with you
[14:32] <senorgomez> ubuntu 8.10 allows for read/write of NTFS mounts right?
[14:32] <Slart> senorgomez: yes
[14:32] <JackWinter_> PeskyJ: isn't in the repos though, you have to get is separately
[14:32] <senorgomez> thanks
[14:32] <PeskyJ> JackWinter_: aha, thanks
[14:32] <gammy> ikonia: I have already been told multiple times that a system which has non-server packages installed are not #ubuntu-server related
[14:33] <Deiselton> ikonia.... how do you reference diffent monitors? i know in the nvidia settings it calls one CRT-0 and the other DFP-0?... cause i could do a try catch and attemp to do something with "CRT-0" if it works then i have 2 monitors...
[14:33] <PeskyJ> JackWinter_: does that also handle the capture from the camera/tape?
[14:33] <ikonia> gammy your using the ubuntu server base install, yes/no ?
[14:33] <officeguy> http://www.fifo.sg/post/show/221
[14:33] <gammy> Delvien: At keeping an intrepid server running without problems -at all-
[14:33] <ikonia> Deiselton depends on the software how it's referened
[14:33] <gammy> ikonia: Yes. Of course.
[14:33] <ikonia> officeguy thats nothing to do with ubutnu - stop it now please
[14:33] <ikonia> gammy: what are the "non-server "packages then ?
[14:33] <Delvien> gammy mine is running great talking to you from it now
[14:34] <Deiselton> hmmm ok can you think of any commands that takes the monitor as an input?
[14:34] <PeskyJ> JackWinter_: and when you say no fx, does it do text overlays/inserts and fades and really simple stuff like that?
[14:34] <user__> hello. is there any way that i can install another boot loader from ubuntu live cd? because with the grub boot loader i get a error 23: disk read error
[14:34] <gammy> ikonia: Anything that did not come with the base install, apparently.
[14:34] <ikonia> gammy can you give me an example
[14:34] <Deiselton> i cant think of any as the linux shell doesnt use resolutions that i know of
[14:34] <ikonia> gammy: as the things you mention come with the base
[14:34] <gammy> ikonia: Uh. zsh? :P
[14:34] <JackWinter_> PeskyJ: my application was simple, to open a .ts file (from sat), cut out the commercials and save as mpeg file.  Might not fit your requirements, but for cutting things out it's ace.  and no it doesn't import anything.  just ace at removing stuff from mpeg or ts files
[14:34] <yerchin> Hi guys, could anyone help me with a quick question?
[14:34] <Deiselton> not until it loads a graphical interface
[14:34] <ikonia> gammy: thats in the repos though isn't it ?
[14:35] <erUSUL> !ask | yerchin
[14:35] <Deiselton> yerchin: ask away
[14:35] <senorgomez> when i enter "sudo fdisk -|" it doesn't give me an output, it just says ">" on next line
[14:35] <senorgomez> out do i get output from 'sudo fdisk -|'?
[14:35] <fosco_> senorgomez: sudo fdisk -l
[14:35] <KRF> senorgomez, it's "-l"
[14:35] <soundray> senorgomez: replace the | with an l (lowercase L)
[14:35] <yerchin> I was wondering if Ubuntu can access the files on my vista partition (Can it read NTFS)?
[14:35] <KRF> small L
[14:35] <Delvien> senorgomez: | is invalid
[14:35] <gammy> ikonia: Yes. As soon as anyone in #ubuntu-server found out I had pulled in packages that did not come with the base, they refused to help. I'm not going to badger people who do not want, nor have time to assists.
[14:35] <Deiselton> senorgomez.... cause you are piping it to nothing maybe
[14:35] <Slart> yerchin: yes
[14:35] <senorgomez> ahhhh ;) thnaks
[14:35] <user__> hello. is there any way that i can install another boot loader from ubuntu live cd? because with the grub boot loader i get a error 23: disk read error
[14:36] <yerchin> Thanks. Can it also open programs/read the registry?
[14:36] <ikonia> gammy I'm in there now, pop in and lets have a look at it
[14:36] <simmerz> woo! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/17/adobe_64_bit_linux_flash_10_alpha/
[14:36] <gammy> ikonia: In fact I'm no longer looking for help as I realize there is none. I just wanted to know if anyone at all had succeeded in running intrepid server at all :)
[14:36] <Deiselton> senorgomez... | sends the output to another program... like you could say fdisk | gerp fdisk and it will show all lines with fdisk in them
[14:36] <slowlearner> !aptfix
[14:36] <soundray> user__: you should check your BIOS setup first and make sure the hard disks are set to Mode: Auto
[14:36] <PeskyJ> JackWinter_: oh right... this is for capturing from a video camera (DV format on tape) so perhaps dvb is not what I need?
[14:36] <Haggi> egat.de
[14:36] <ikonia> gammy fine then
[14:36] <yerchin> !ask can it open programs?
[14:36] <Whitor> Hi, I've got a problem with my network settings. It seems that my wireless adapter is only connecting to the wi-fi network it was connected to during the upgrade from hardy to intrepid. I looked at /etc/network/interfaces and I noticed that the network that I /can/ connecto is hard coded in there... what is this file supposed to look like ?
[14:36] <yerchin> ah lol.
[14:37] <gammy> ikonia: Some problems are 186167, 259293, 277723, 276444 but those are only the ones who others have also reported.
[14:37] <Deiselton> senorgomez that grep.. not gerp
[14:37] <user__> soundray they are. problem is that  i think my hdd has a broken master boot record...
[14:37] <soundray> gammy: you either come for help here, or you stay away. The way you are behaving is just wasting time.
[14:37] <erwin_> !aptfix
[14:37] <senorgomez> thanks deiselton
[14:37] <Slart> yerchin: do you mean run windows programs? it can't run stuff installed on your windows drive.. you'll have to install them using wine
[14:37] <gammy> soundray: Oh that's funny. I thought I spent time here actually helping people as well.
[14:37] <soundray> user__: installing grub fixes the master boot record
[14:37] <Haggi> g.de
[14:37] <yerchin> Ok, thanks Slart.
[14:38] <soundray> gammy: I don't know about other times. I'm only referring to your current behaviour
[14:38] <user__> then what's the problem ? because i get Grub - loading stage 1.5read error
[14:38] <soundray> !grub | user__
[14:38] <yerchin> I've heard WINE can be very difficult, is this true or just rumors?
[14:38] <gammy> soundray: Ok.
[14:38] <bazhang> yerchin, check the appdb
[14:38] <gammy> soundray: So you mean my question was invalid because it was generic? Or what?
[14:38] <bazhang> !appdb | yerchin
[14:38] <erUSUL> yerchin: if the app is well supported by wine is dead easy.
[14:38] <soundray> user__: try the RestoreGrub instructions ^^
[14:38] <Slart> yerchin: well.. it comes with it's own problems.. you can ask in #winehq
[14:38] <Delvien> yerchin: half and half
[14:38] <fosco_> yerchin: wine is easy and totally transparent to the user
[14:38] <JackWinter_> PeskyJ: if you ever need to cut stuff out of a mpeg stream have a look at it.  saves loads of time...  i only mentioned it, because all the other video editing packages i tried drove me mad... :)
[14:38] <erwin_> badly need help with my wired network.. it freezes almost every 10secs and i have to hit networking restart :(
[14:38] <gammy> soundray: I mean, ikonia answered it. I was happy with the answer.
[14:39] <simmerz> Delvien: looks like the aptitude upgrade did it
[14:39] <user__> ok
[14:39] <soundray> gammy: I am saying that moaning is offtopic here. You either look for help, or you stay away.
[14:39] <yerchin> Thanks guys.
[14:39] <sapi51> Experiencing a WTF moment.  Can anyone help?  (dir access restricted) http://pastebin.ca/1259296
[14:39] <Deiselton> senorgomez.... just so you know... you have 3 things you can do to a program... 1 "|" pipe it to another program.... or ">" write it to a file... or "<" take input from a program or file as arguments of this program...
[14:39] <yerchin> Most freeware comes with linux support anyway right?
[14:39] <ikonia> sapi51 you don't need to use phrases like WTF
[14:39] <Delvien> simmerz: good :)
[14:39] <Deiselton> senorgomez: so if you see | or < or > you havent finished reading or C and ping the rest of the command
[14:40] <JackWinter_> PeskyJ: gotta go now, good luck :)
[14:40] <gammy> soundray: Understood. Please post most exact guidelines if available.
[14:40] <gammy> soundray: most/more.
[14:41] <ikonia> gents, can we drop this please
[14:41] <bazhang> !etiquette
[14:41] <soundray> !guidelines | gammy
[14:41] <Delvien> bazhang: excuse me?
[14:41] <erUSUL> sapi51: where are the . and .. dirs?
[14:41] <user__> ok i've tried recovery grub and when i'm suposed to write root (hd0.0) i get error 11: unrecognized device string
[14:42] <bazhang> Delvien, not for you
[14:42] <soundray> user__: use a comma, not a period (hd0,0)
[14:42] <Delvien> bazhang: weird it pinged me
[14:42] <deardeath> Who here has information about xorg.conf?
[14:42] <user__> :)
[14:42] <erUSUL> sapi51: forget it; problem is with execute bits on group and others
[14:43] <yerchin> Will Ubuntu yield better hardware performance than vista?
[14:43] <sapi51> erUSUL, I need these set?
[14:43] <user__> ok now i get error at next step - setup (hd0) - error 25: unrecognized command
[14:43] <Slart> yerchin: depends on what kind of hardware you're talking about.. for your windows only scanner.. sure since it won't work at all on linux (probably)
[14:43] <erUSUL> sapi51: mine are i have drwxr-xr-x for drive_c
[14:43] <yerchin> Haha, no I mean internal parts.
[14:44] <yerchin> Like RAM, GPU and CPU.
[14:44] <shehrin> java
[14:44] <shehrin> need for speed
[14:45] <Slart> yerchin: ubuntu will probably feel a bit snappier compared to vista.. gnome can be a bit of a hog but there are other window managers available
[14:45] <sapi51> erUSUL, if I fix that, I get the same prob for the nested folders.  can I recursively chmod the folders ONLY?
[14:45] <ikonia> sapi51: a while loop script could
[14:46] <ikonia> sapi51: use the output of ls -d
[14:46] <gammy> ikonia: Hrm I didn't know there was anything to stop. I still can't see any problem at all. However I do understand how what I said could have been easily misinterpreted. I wasn't "whining" - Each problem I have had has been adressed here with great care and I appreciate all the assistance. However the solutions have been exhausted - that's life.
[14:46] <ikonia> gammy: I meant the debating about if it's ok to ask, you've asked the question, fine, lets move on
[14:46] <yerchin> Thanks, is driver installation a big deal? Eg; do I have to go hunt down new drivers for my chipset, gpu, etc?\
[14:46] <manzur> hello
[14:46] <erUSUL> sapi51: « find drive_c -type d -exec chmod +x {} \; » should work
[14:46] <scampbell> sapi51:  find /somedir -type d -exec chmod +w {} \;   <--- adds write permission to all folders under /somedir
[14:46] <gammy> ikonia: Mm.
[14:46] <Slart> yerchin: nope.. it usually works out of the box.. but try a live cd to know for sure
[14:47] <sapi51> genius. thanks people!
[14:47] <soundray> user__: have you really entered 'setup (hd0)' only? No leading spaces and such?
[14:47] <yerchin> Ok, thanks for all the help Slart. You're making this conversion a helluva lot easier.
[14:47] <MarcoPau> Hello, I haven't been able to print since my last intrepid upgrade. Cups' error_log says Unable to open MFP port device file!: Cannot allocate memory. Do you have any hint?
[14:47] <user__> yes
[14:47] <Slart> yerchin: you're welcome
[14:47] <Guest4468> why is there no list of visited channels of the past week?
[14:47] <soundray> user__: please try again
[14:48] <rourou> hello! i'm a noob, can anyone help me to get sound working on my laptop?
[14:48] <user__> ok now i get error 17: cannot mount partition
[14:48] <user__> ok now i get error 17: cannot mount selected partition
[14:48] <mysteryc> Hi.
[14:48] <deardeath> erUSUL: Can I send a private message to you? It is hard to keep up with the channel due to display configurations.
[14:48] <Gnea> !sound | rourou
[14:48] <erUSUL> deardeath: ok
[14:49] <fosco_> rourou: try gstreamer-properties
[14:49] <Gnea> rourou: also, check the second url here...
[14:49] <Gnea> !laptop | rourou
[14:49] <yerchin> What is the preferred IM client for linux? Multi platform I mean. Miranda, Pidgin, Trillian?
[14:49] <mysteryc> I just downloaded Songbird but when I try to run the install, it says  `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./songbird)
[14:49] <bazhang> !best > yerchin
[14:49] <rourou> ok thanks guys!
[14:49] <yerchin> Saw that one coming.
[14:50] <yerchin> Just what I get for asking you to pick my shoes.
[14:50] <soundray> user__: now you should compare the output from 'sudo fdisk -l' and the partition references in /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if the latter refer to the correct partitions.
[14:50] <Gnea> rourou: try to follow those as best you can - if you still have issues, please ask :)
[14:50] <user__> ok i'll try
[14:50] <Guest4468> how can you list all dutch channels?
[14:50] <Guest4468> !list
[14:50] <rourou> ok :)
[14:51] <bazhang> !irc | Guest4468 check last link
[14:51] <Pici> !nl | Guest4468
[14:51] <gammy>  /j #ubuntu-sv
[14:51] <gammy> huhu
[14:51] <gammy> I wonder.
[14:51] <bazhang> gammy, its #ubuntu-se
[14:51] <gigel2006> Does PIGDIN have encryption or do I have to install it ? ""apt-get install pidgin-encryption". ?
[14:52] <gammy> bazhang: Ahead of ye
[14:52] <user__> ok this i see in menu.lst title		Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
[14:52] <user__> root		(hd0,0)
[14:53] <bre4kbeat> Counter strike is installed and configured yet it crashes everytime i try to run it from steam
[14:53] <soundray> user__: so that refers to the first partition on your first hard disk. Is that your Ubuntu root?
[14:53] <bre4kbeat> anyone ever had this problem?
[14:53] <user__> and with fdisk i see  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[14:53] <user__> /dev/hda1   *           1<PHONE_NUMBER>   83  Linux
[14:53] <user__> /dev/hda2            1042        4865    30716280    7  HPFS/NTFS
[14:53] <user__> /dev/hda3             974        1041      546210   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[14:53] <FloodBot1> user__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:53] <yerchin> With ubuntu installed is booting handled by boot.ini or GRUB by default?
[14:53] <Pici> yerchin: GRUB
[14:53] <UnknownUser56> sup #ubuntu
[14:53] <yerchin> ty pici
[14:54] <UnknownUser56> I resolved the problem from yesterday,and installed ubuntu 8.10 with grub and booted
[14:54] <gigel2006> Does PIGDIN have encryption or do I have to install it ? ""apt-get install pidgin-encryption". ?
[14:55] <user__> the partition /dev/hda1 is the partition that has linux on it
[14:55] <UnknownUser56> But the strange this is partition #1 & #2 are available on ubuntu ,but there are 2 other partiotions ( ntfs ) which don't show up,and while on Windows partition #1 & #2 show up while the others don't
[14:55] <GSMX> gigel2006: there is no such thing as encryption for pidgin, it depends upon the protocol you use, wheter there is encryption
[14:55] <soundray> user__: have you got more than one hard disk drive?
[14:55] <user__> no just one
[14:55] <gigel2006> GSMX: http://pidgin-encrypt.sourceforge.net/install.php
[14:55] <user__> it has 8gb ubuntu partition 500meg swap the rest ntfs with data on it wich i need
[14:56] <yerchin> Anyone here done CISCO curriculum before? I am being bored out of my skull. D:
[14:56] <user__> should i write hda1 instead of hd0,0 in menu.lst?
[14:56] <soundray> user__: no, that's not going to work
[14:57] <Fenix|work> Greetings
[14:57] <yerchin> brb guys LOADIGN TEH UBUNTUZ
[14:57] <yerchin> :D
[14:57] <user__> when i do this... grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[14:57] <user__>  (hd0,0)
[14:57] <user__>
[14:57] <cube> my firefox goes over my menus when its not full screen
[14:57] <Fenix|work> can someone point me to a howto on password-less ssh without the need of setting up an rhost?
[14:57] <user__> so grub is on hd0,0
[14:57] <GSMX> gigel2006: didn't know about that one :P oke, it's in multiverse so "sudo apt-get install pidgin-encryption" should work
[14:57] <Fenix|work> err without setting up rhosts
[14:57] <ikonia> user__ your stage one files are yes
[14:57] <user__> and in menu.lst it says at root - hd0,0
[14:57] <soundray> user__: yes, I can't see anything wrong with that. Don't know why you're still getting an error 17
[14:58] <gigel2006> GSMX: ya i'll see if it works cheers
[14:58] <soundray> user__: unless your BIOS somehow detects it wrong
[14:58] <cube> when firefox does that its when i open a new window or when i first open it
[14:58] <user__> i should state that the hdd is ata and the smart ability has gone wrong somehow
[14:58] <Guest38057> Can someone help me step by step how make my Belkin wifi usb F5D7050 in Hardy?
[14:58] <user__> might this be the problem then?
[14:59] <LjL> user__: what do you mean that SMART has gone wrong?
[14:59] <kanhiya78> anybody who want to try openoffice.org 3.0 try this link http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[14:59] <soundray> user__: yes. Try the other settings. LBA should work with most large disks
[14:59] <Belkie> Can someone help me step by step how make my Belkin wifi usb F5D7050 in Hardy?
[14:59] <user__> what other settings?
[14:59] <soundray> user__: LBA
[14:59] <user__> the ATA hdd's had a SMART ABILITY
[14:59] <user__> how do i use lba?
[14:59] <cube> any idea on how to get firefox to stop going over my panel's?
[15:00] <user__> what's that anyway?
[15:00] <LjL> kanhiya78: that's unrequested and unsupported, please don't do that
[15:00] <soundray> user__: set Mode: LBA instead of Mode: Auto in BIOS
[15:00] <user__> ok
[15:00] <user__> i'll try and i'll be back
[15:00] <LjL> user__: SMART is a standard involving a set of hardware sensors that can help determine whether the HD is going bad
[15:00] <user__> hopefully it will work
[15:00] <user__> i know
[15:00] <kanhiya78> LjL it is not supported?
[15:00] <user__> see you soon
[15:00] <user__> :)
[15:01] <|Chrizz|> Belkie: Google can solve anything. http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-setup-belkin-wireless-g-f5d7050.html
[15:01] <kanhiya78> LjL i do not understand
[15:01] <LjL> kanhiya78: it's not in the official ubuntu repositories, which is what we support in this channel. if someone wants to install something from a third-party source, they should understand the implications very well. since no one asked, there's absolutely no reason to post a link like that.
[15:01] <Slart> kanhiya78: will you be here in the channel handling the support for everyone installing oo3 using that link?
[15:01] <Belkie> jChrizz: i'm noob, I need step by step :(
[15:02] <|Chrizz|> Belkie: Thats a step by step tutorial, right?
[15:02] <Belkie> jChrizz, but its latin for me :(
[15:02] <senorgomez> last bootup my Min/Max Temp for my harddrive was 37-40 C now it is 17-31 C, how can i set it back?
[15:02] <GSMX> senorgomez: the lower it is, the better
[15:02] <Belkie> |Chrizz|: its latin :(
[15:03] <Guest4468> Pici I have been banned from that channel
[15:03] <senorgomez> actually in the past 30 min it went from 17 - 31 to 17 - 33 Min Max, so i guess it will sort itself out
[15:03] <kanhiya78> i was just giving information
[15:03] <sumpm1> someone help me fix my keyboard
[15:03] <onats> hello, need some help. my ubuntu installation no longer boots to gdm... it seems that there's a problem with my graphic's card setup
[15:03] <kanhiya78> if i have done anything wrong than sorry for that
[15:03] <GSMX> senorgomez: it probably will, a low temp is nothing to wory about, a hi temp is ;)
[15:03] <onats> i want to upgrade to 8.10 via console.. how do i do that?
[15:03] <|Chrizz|> Belkie: Hmm, Unplug the usb device, and open a terminal
[15:04] <cube> i installed another hd how do i get root permission on it
[15:04] <UnknownUser56> I Installed ubuntu 8.10 and he strange this is partition #1 & #2 are available on ubuntu ,but there are 2 other partiotions ( ntfs ) which don't show up,and while on Windows partition #1 & #2 show up while the others don't
[15:04] <kanhiya78> how to post a bug
[15:04] <LjL> !bugs > kanhiya78    (kanhiya78, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:04] <UnknownUser56> Anyone know why ?
[15:05] <cube> my other hd is mounted but i don't have permissions how do i get root permission permanent for it
[15:05] <RizR> onats: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should re-configure the x server and overwrite and problems with xorg.conf.
[15:05] <kanhiya78> ok
[15:05] <sumpm1> using 8.10, keyboard buttons repeating. how can i fix it? HHEEEEELLLLLLLLLP PLLEEASSEEE
[15:05] <onats> rizr, i'm using the envy-ng
[15:05] <onats> will that fix it?
[15:05] <narcoclepsy> Ever since i updated to 8.10 my password no longer unlocks the "default keychain" is there a way i can sudo reset the default keychain password?
[15:06] <UnknownUser58> Sorry I was lagging,if anyone responded please repeat :)
[15:06] <RizR> onats: afaik this will completly reset the configuration regardless the driver. Sorry, hvnt used envy-ng so cant say for sure.
[15:06] <LjL> sumpm1: might be related to the old bug #39315
[15:07] <sumpm1> will look
[15:07] <LjL> sumpm1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39315
[15:07] <maulynvia> anyone recommend simple external hard drive for backup that works with Ubuntu?
[15:07] <rourou> yay i managed to fix my sound thanks so much Gnea!
[15:07] <erki> maulynvia: In my experience most external hard drives work.
[15:07] <bazhang> !hcl > maulynvia
[15:07] <RizR> onats: do a release upgrade from console using sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:07] <Slart> maulynvia: afaik most external drives work with ubuntu. I use a western digital external drive, works nicely
[15:08] <maulynvia> Do you know if can I use the same disk to backup windows files?
[15:08] <RizR> onats: dont forget to install upgrade-manager befor that using sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[15:08] <UnknownUser58> I Installed ubuntu 8.10 and he strange this is partition #1 & #2 are available on ubuntu ,but there are 2 other partiotions ( ntfs ) which don't show up,and while on Windows partition #1 & #2 show up while the others don't  ,if ianyone knows why ,do tell
[15:08] <erki> maulynvia: Yes, if you format it as FAT32 or NTFS
[15:08] <hololight> Having a problem starting gnome for one user, but not others. Tried failsafe and turned off all the user level services I could. when I check out .xsession-errors all I get is a very non-descript "error timeout". This is a 8.04 install that has been running just fine for quite a while
[15:08] <Slart> maulynvia: depends.. windows is a little handicapped when it comes to playing with anything but itself.. but you can use fat32 or ntfs and ubuntu will still handle it
[15:09] <RizR> UnknownUser58: what file system do partitions #1 and #2 have?
[15:09] <maulynvia> thanks all
[15:10] <onats> RizR, ayt. will check that
[15:10] <UnknownUser58> RizR:ext3fs on 1 & 2 ,ntfs on the others
[15:10] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[15:11] <sumpm1> LjL: that bug seems to be related to laptops  and mice i believe
[15:11] <n8tuser> UnknownUser58-> your windows can not easily view or recognize ext* file system
[15:11] <RizR> UnknownUser58: have you got ntfs-3g package installed?
[15:12] <sumpm1> LjL: thank you though
[15:12] <AzizLight> I want to install an ubuntu server in my house, but I don't have the hardware (the actual server) what do you suggest I buy (something cheap, I want to make an ftp/http server accessible only by me)?
[15:12] <sumpm1> my mouse seems to be working  fine
[15:12] <hololight> azizlight: almost any compu7ter will work fine for you
[15:12] <RizR> UnknownUser58: sorry. didnt read your full question. ext3 (and other linux partitions) are not easily usable in windows. ntfs partitions can be seen in linux. do you have ntfs-3g package installed?
[15:12] <sumpm1> but the keyboard ttttttttypppppesss lllikkkkke thiiss    ifff IIIII wereeeeeeeee to  jusstt      typpeee like norrmal lol
[15:13] <UnknownUser58> RizR : no i don't ,but I can't see why I should because the live cd could detect them
[15:13] <AzizLight> hololight: yeah but almost any computer will cost over 1000euros, isnt that a little bit overkill? :S
[15:13] <RizR> UnknownUser58: Yup :-)
[15:13] <UnknownUser58> To note that my exeriences with nix are from live cds and it's the first time I try to permenantly install it
[15:13] <n8tuser> UnknownUser58-> the liveCD has the ntfs-3g drivers loaded while your install does not have it
[15:14] <Crusher> can anybody suggest me a program that creates iso of a cd?
[15:14] <hololight> AzizLight: Honestly, it could be many years old as well (read ==> used). My server is about 4 years old. was a 1ghz 1gb ram machine
[15:14] <Guest96047> hey im working with my fstab file..is there a reason that the sda sdb sdc changes on every restart...like i set my fstab to mount at certain mountpoints but then when i restart all of them are mounting to the wrong places cause the letters switched....but i didnt move anything around in my computer
[15:14] <bazhang> k9copy Crusher
[15:14] <sumpm1> need help w/ permissions, anyone help?
[15:14] <n8tuser> UnknownUser58-> when you are on livecd you can try this.   sudo lsmod|grep ntfs  and also same in your installed system, compare the results
[15:14] <hololight> Crusher: Banshee can
[15:15] <n8tuser> Guest96047-> can you change your nick other than a guest, its easier to type ..
[15:16] <UnknownUser58> That solves the issue ,does Windows need 3rd party drivers to detect ex3 format drives ?
[15:16] <hololight> Azizlight: I have even run a 750 mhz p3 as a file server, it worked just fine
[15:16] <Odd-rationale> Crusher: brasero perhaps... it is default in 8.04 and 8.10
[15:16] <senorgomez> is there a good tutorial out there for mounting an NTFS drive on startup with fstab?
[15:16] <senorgomez> i don't know how to do it
[15:16] <n8tuser> UnknownUser58-> yes, windows needs a driver..i've said this already
[15:16] <senorgomez> and tried googlign
[15:16] <erki> !ntfs
[15:16] <erki> !fstab
[15:16] <joni> join/ #seaphor
[15:16] <erki> senorgomez: Those two should help
[15:17] <senorgomez> thanks
[15:17] <senorgomez> a lot
[15:18] <myhem> hello
[15:18] <UnknownUser58> n8tuser:told me how to see ntfs file systems in ubuntu ,not detecting ex3 while booted from Windows .Thanks for the help though :)
[15:18] <nylwar> so this is irc...
[15:18] <Guest96047> whats the fdisk command to see all the /dev drives?
[15:18] <myhem> is there any way to make 8.10 hubernate and get up faster its really annoying to wait like 1 minute -_-
[15:19] <Patrick> hi anyone here?
[15:19] <MrEgg964> Hi all :) I just migrated to intrepid :) and now I have a "disabled person" icon in the upper tray (Universal access preferences). How can I remove it from my panel?
[15:19] <RizR> Guest96047: sudo fdisk -l
[15:19] <Guest28987> i need some help about installing ubuntu
[15:20] <Guest28987> anyone can help with that?
[15:20] <Guest96047> rizR: i get a cannot open for all the /dev's
[15:20] <RizR> Guest28987: what are you trying to do
[15:20] <Slart> MrEgg964: have you tried right clicking on it and selecting delete/remove?
[15:20] <zerwas> I tried to use debootstrap for intrepid ( http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10ubuntu1~intrepid1.tar.gz ) , but it has no intrepid script. Does anybody have a hint if the script is elsewhere?
[15:20] <nibbler_> Guest28987: dont be too precise pls :)
[15:20] <tsunami> what are my options for rdp share for linux.  I use vnc to connect and it is deathly slow.  any suggestions as to how to set up the shar in linux??
[15:20] <bitplex> How do you make apt-get skip unmet dependcies?
[15:20] <Guest96047> rizR: I'm trying to mount certain drives to certain media folder mountpoints
[15:20] <RizR> Guest96047: you need to run fdisk under root. are you doing that?
[15:21] <MrEgg964> Slart: yes I have, but right-clicking doesn't bring up any menu :(
[15:21] <Guest96047> rizR: oh ok worked under root....why would the letters switch when i restart?
[15:21] <bartmon> !dvd > bartmon
[15:21] <manzur> someone in here like this idea
[15:21] <manzur> ?
[15:21] <manzur> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/14940/
[15:22] <shinoj> !dvd >shinoj
[15:22] <ikonia> manzur this is a support channel, not a marketing of your brainstorm channel
[15:22] <Slart> MrEgg964: hmm.. it's not the "keyboard accessability status" applet?
[15:22] <Guest96047> is there a way to add the disk identifier to the fstab so it mounts to where i want it to?
[15:22] <Lasivian> is there any easy way to send mails from software that does not have a field for an outgoing smtp password?
[15:22] <n8tuser> Guest96047-> can you change your nick other than a guest, its easier to type using tab
[15:22] <thomasite> Hello. I have a problem with Evolution. It needs a keyring. :( I'm using 8.10, btw. Please help me. Thanks!
[15:22] <Lasivian> ie. I need an open smtp server
[15:23] <shinoj> idivx>shinoj
[15:23] <nibbler_> Lasivian: setup some mailserver at your box, using smarthost
[15:23] <Lasivian> nibbler_: I tried that with postfix, but I get "relay access denied"
[15:23] <RizR> Guest96047: shouldnt switch. hmm one reason could be that master/slave status of drives is changed. other than that they shouldnt switch.
[15:24] <nibbler_> Lasivian: then fix your config ;-)
[15:24] <MrEgg964> Slart: well, I have it installed in French, so I wouldn't know for sure. Left clicking on the icon brings a dialog box with 5 check boxes regarding Contrast, Larger text, etc.
[15:24] <Guest96047> rizR: i was using gparted to see the /dev....maybe it was wrong
[15:24] <Lasivian> nibbler_: that's what i'm trying to do
[15:24] <Guest96047> is there a command to unmount all?
[15:24] <Lasivian> I can;t figure out what a "smarthost" is exactly
[15:24] <ikonia> Guest96047 umount -a
[15:25] <RizR> Guest96047: were you using gparted live cd or in same installation?
[15:25] <tsunami> rdp sharing options for ubuntu?? anyone.
[15:25] <erUSUL> Lasivian: a hst that actually know how to sen the mail. Like smtp.gmail.com or your isp smp
[15:26] <Guest96047> rizR: no on the same install
[15:26] <shinoj> Lasivian: smtp.gmail.com
[15:26] <md22> do you guys know of any TV tuner cards that are compatible with UBuntu ?
[15:26] <Slart> MrEgg964: you can check in system, preferences, assisted technologies and try to disable them
[15:26] <Lasivian> so postfix needs to know my username and password on that smtp server
[15:27] <Guest28987> hi
[15:27] <RizR> Guest96047: very odd. Sorry cant think of anything at the moment. may be smoeone else can help :-)
[15:27] <Guest28987> im trying to install ubuntu on a compatible laptop
[15:27] <MrEgg964> Slart: Ok I'll try looking in that direction, thanks :)
[15:27] <Guest28987> and it isnt working
[15:27] <erUSUL> Lasivian: what are you trying to do?
[15:28] <bitplex> How do you make apt-get skip unmet dependencies? Anyone?
[15:28] <hapt1K> hello
[15:28] <Lasivian> erUSUL: the raid software i'm using on a windows box (yeah, I know) can send out alerts if it crashes, but it's smtp options do not have a field for a pssword
[15:28] <MrEgg964> Is this just me, or is text rendering on LCD better in Intrepid?
[15:28] <js_> how can i reinstall grub from the live cd?
[15:28] <hapt1K> im trying to install "patch" but it's asking me for the Heron cdrom which i dont have - how can i get away from this?
[15:28] <Lasivian> erUSUL: so I need an smtp server that does not demand a password, i'm trying to setup postfix on my ubuntu box to accomplish this, with limited success :)
[15:28] <bazhang> MrEgg964, depends, some find it better though
[15:28] <erUSUL> hapt1K: diasable the cdroma s software source
[15:29] <erUSUL> hapt1K: system>Admin>Software sources
[15:29] <mikroflops> Hi, how am i supposed to single-boot gnu/linux on a macbook..?
[15:29] <hapt1K> erUSUL: thanks let me try that
[15:29] <Belkie> |Chrizz| are you still here?
[15:29] <MrEgg964> bazhang: it was already pretty good, but I find it even smoother now
[15:29] <bazhang> !macbook > mikroflops
[15:29] <bazhang> MrEgg964, same here
[15:29] <erki> js_: You mean like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub ?
[15:30] <Puneet> macbook
[15:30] <js_> erki: haha, yes, and i just found that link, thakns
[15:30] <erUSUL> Lasivian: so you are doing winbox --smtp--> linux box --smtp_with_auth--> gmail
[15:30] <Puneet> Mac Isn't good??
[15:30] <Belfast> hola, alguien me puede ayudar con el problema de baja resolucion en ubuntu?
[15:30] <cube> can you put stumbleupon in epiphany?
[15:31] <Belkie> can anyone help me with http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-setup-belkin-wireless-g-f5d7050.html
[15:31] <Whitor> Hi, I've got a problem with my network settings. It seems that my wireless adapter is only connecting to the wi-fi network it was connected to during the upgrade from hardy to intrepid. I looked at /etc/network/interfaces and I noticed that the network that I /can/ connect to is hard coded in there... what is this file supposed to look like ? How can I get it so I can move between two networks?
[15:31] <hapt1K> erUSUL: that seems to have worked thanks alot!
[15:31] <Belkie> do I have to type echo rt73 >>/etc/modules or echo rt73????
[15:31] <erUSUL> Lasivian: http://behindmyscreen.newsvine.com/_news/2006/12/31/501615-configuringubuntu-postfix-and-gmail-in-101-easy-steps
[15:31] <Lasivian> erUSUL: yes, that is what I am attempting to do
[15:31] <Lasivian> thanks
[15:31] <RizR> !pm |<Guest28987>
[15:31] <RizR> !pm |Guest28987
[15:31] <erUSUL> Lasivian: first result searching for "ubuntu postfix gmail"
[15:32] <MrEgg964> Belfast: check #ubuntu-es for Spanish...
[15:32] <erUSUL> Lasivian: and there other similar how tos
[15:32] <eugene_> .
[15:32] <blendroid> I'm trying to turn up my speakers in alsamixer, but I can only see the "master" channel, when I need the "front" one.  anybody know what's wrong?
[15:32] <erUSUL> !es | Belfast
[15:32] <mikroflops> bazhang: thanks, but macbook BIOS doesn't seem to read from MBR
[15:32] <Belkie> can someone help me, do I have to type echo rt73 >>/etc/modules or echo rt73 in the terminal (with or without >>/etc/modules)
[15:32] <Guest28987> can anyone help?
[15:33] <Whitor> here is my /etc/networking/interfaces file  : http://pastebin.ca/1259330
[15:33] <erUSUL> Belkie: echo  rt73 | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[15:33] <Guest28987> i made it so the bios boots the installation cd for ubuntu but keeps bringing I/O errors up
[15:33] <bazhang> Guest28987, ask a specific question
[15:33] <jpoRS> guest28987: with what?
[15:33] <erki> Whitor: Remove everything but "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" from /etc/network/interfaces. Network-manager is supposed to handle that by itself I believe.
[15:33] <Guest28987> basically my laptop is compatible with UBUNTU. yet i cant install it
[15:33] <Whitor> erki, thanks I'll try that
[15:33] <Belkie> erUSUL, i'm following the tuto on http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-setup-belkin-wireless-g-f5d7050.html, can you help?
[15:33] <bazhang> Guest28987, md5 the iso yet?
[15:33] <erki> Whitor: You might also need to reboot.
[15:34] <momelod> greetings channel, in ubuntu 8.10 what the the proper ubuntu way to handle automounting of cifs/smb shares in a domain
[15:34] <Guest28987> md5 sorry?
[15:34] <momelod> i would like to specify my own mount points
[15:34] <ikonia> su -
[15:34] <ikonia> oops
[15:34] <bazhang> !md5
[15:34] <momelod> and i dont see that option in the 'connect to server' menu
[15:34] <Whitor> erki, I'll prolly just have to restart /etc/initd/networking no ?
[15:34] <Guest96047> whats sfs under file system?
[15:34] <erUSUL> Belkie: use the command i gave instead of echo rt73 >>/etc/modules
[15:35] <erki> Whitor: Umm, probably yes. You might actually be better at this than I am :)
[15:35] <Whitor> erki, but a reboot is a good idea too.  ... make sure everything comes up as expected ...
[15:35] <Belkie> erUSUL, why?
[15:35] <jin> is there a way to set gnome/ubuntu to auto clean up (sort the icons) my desktop?)
[15:35] <Guest28987> it says
[15:35] <Guest28987> error reading boot cd
[15:35] <Guest28987> i/o error
[15:35] <Whitor> erki, I'm still learning... we can all teach each other something :)
[15:35] <bazhang> md5 the iso then Guest28987
[15:35] <erUSUL> Belkie: becouse "sudo echo ... " wont work as sudo do not cross >> redirection and you will get a permissions error
[15:35] <bazhang> !md5
[15:36] <blendroid> how do I switch channels in alsamixer?  I can only see "master," while I need "front"
[15:36] <bazhang> Guest28987, read that link
[15:36] <MrEgg964> Guest28987: Most likely there's a problem with your copy of Ubuntu 8.10. It can either be your download that didn't go right (hence the md5 check, to make sure), or your burning the cd that went wrong (you want to burn the cd in the slowest possible speed for better results)
[15:36] <Guest28987> i see
[15:36] <Guest28987> the burn was quik
[15:36] <Guest28987> quick
[15:36] <cyberix> How can I do an "apt-get build-dep" that is not reversed by the next "apt-get autoremove"?
[15:36] <Guest28987> okay ill reburn, i believe that will sort it out
[15:37] <Lasivian> erUSUL: I did not realize it was a gmail-specific issue
[15:37] <Lasivian> thanks
[15:37] <erUSUL> Lasivian: well most other smtp's do not use encrypted connections
[15:38] <angulion> Is there a way to script a do-release-upgrade ? I have over 50 machines which are identical, on a test-system I tested and had to answer a few yes and no's.
[15:38] <Neelabh> hellO!
[15:38] <michael> i'm on a dell inspiron 6400
[15:38] <michael> i think i need to uninstall and reinstall my auido drivers
[15:38] <MrEgg964> Guest28987: before you re-burn the cd, you may want to compare md5 checksums.   Think that worked for me but not sure until i get home.
[15:40] <ndm_design> Anyone thing they could take a minute to give me some advice on a new server build?
[15:40] <ndm_design> *think
[15:40] <michael> fosco_, any tips on what i'm looking for in that list ;)
[15:41] <fosco_> snd
[15:41] <leeping2008> Hey there, I've been using GNU screen for a while now to save my sessions when I log on at home / work.  I find myself having to manually set the DISPLAY environment variable every time I switch computers.  Is there a way to do this automatically??
[15:41] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the GNOME automounter?
[15:42] <ndm_design> I'm doing a new build and am needing a server board that supports Raid and is as hassle free as possible
[15:42] <michael> fosco_, i'm looking to uninstall and reinstall my audio drivers ;)
[15:42] <jin> is there a way to set gnome/ubuntu to auto clean up (sort the icons) my desktop?)
[15:42] <fosco_> michael: audio drivers are included in the kernel package, you do not need to install nor remove them, just load or unload
[15:43] <erUSUL> ndm_design: maybe you get more info on #ubuntu-server
[15:43] <ndm_design> Thankyou Very much erUSUL
[15:43] <MrEgg964> jin: right-click on a empty space on your desktop and choose Sort by name
[15:43] <fosco_> bullgard4: complicated, it depends on halld, udev and /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor
[15:43] <michael> fosco_, they just stopped working (i believe from a power surge)
[15:43] <michael> fosco_, on my windows dual boot I needed to reinstall them, and that fixed it
[15:44] <fosco_> michael: but this is not windows :-)
[15:44] <michael> fosco_, can i reset the kernel to default some how?
[15:44] <blendroid> How do I switch channels in alsamixer? I can only see "master," while I need "front."  Does this mean something with my soundcard isn't working, or is there something I'm missing?
[15:44] <tsunami> what are my options for rdp share for linux.  I use vnc to connect and it is deathly slow.  any suggestions as to how to set up the shar in linux??
[15:44] <yerchin> Ok, I need a little help. I ran the live cd for ubuntu, worked fine. Created an unnamed volume in windows (no file system) and installed ubuntu on largest contiguous partition. I installed it, went smoothly but when I tyr to run it it gives me I/O errors.
[15:45] <Akkernight> How do I build some source using make?
[15:46] <yerchin> It was a buffer I/O error.
[15:46] <fosco_> Akkernight: just type make in the sources dir
[15:46] <erUSUL> Akkernight: you create a Makefile and then just run "make"
[15:46] <Akkernight> How can I just run make, or type make o.O?
[15:46] <erUSUL> Akkernight: if you already have the Makefile just run make
[15:46] <michael> the breaker shut off on me and since then i lost my sound on both my dual boots (xp/ubunutu).  For xp i just reinstalled the drivers and it was fine, but i can't figure out what to do with ubuntu.
[15:46] <michael> any ideas, anyone? ;)
[15:46] <erUSUL> !compile | Akkernight
[15:47] <erUSUL> !cli | Akkernight
[15:48] <MrEgg964> michael: I had a power failure during my migration to Intrepid today.  I did : dpkp --reconfigure -a and everything got fixed.
[15:48] <Akkernight> I've tried typing make <file destination folder> but it says "Nothing to be done"
[15:48] <fosco_> Akkernight: just make, but read what ubottu said
[15:48] <MrEgg964> michael: I did : dpkg --reconfigure -a
[15:49] <soho> hey guys, how can i make my ubuntu kernel "hard" ?
[15:49] <angulion> Is it possible to automate do-release-upgrade? I would need to do it unatended
[15:49] <Spaff> Greetings Linux fans. Apologies for being a horrible needy n00b but I am desperately seeking help as to what has gone wrong with my ubuntu install. Are there any caring souls out there who's be willing to answer a couple of tech questions for me? There's a cup of tea in it....
[15:49] <Akkernight> Just typing make doesn't do anything >.>
[15:49] <erki> !anyone | Spaff
[15:49] <yerchin> My Nvidia card is causing the I/O errors in the boot sequence. How do I stop these without an onboard card?
[15:49] <fosco_> Akkernight: read what ubottu said
[15:50] <Heatryn> I'm installing the atheros madwifi driver, I did sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules madwifi-tools
[15:50] <michael> MrEgg964, "dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure"  ?
[15:50] <Heatryn> now I want to do modprobe ath_pci but he doesn't find the driver
[15:50] <soho> how to linux kernel hardening for ubuntu?
[15:50] <Akkernight> I am reading through it, kinda... But the INSTALL file said to use (su -c "make install") but when I type in my password, it says that the password is wrong...
[15:50] <MrEgg964> michael: hold on a second, I'm double checking
[15:50] <an> hi guys, anyone knows how to del the shortcuts of local harddisk drive but retain the mobile ones' shortcuts?
[15:51] <fosco_> Akkernight: use sudo instead of su -c
[15:51] <Spaff> ok ubottu, I've done my reading, I've gone throuvgh the forums, I've trialled the test envinronment and finally taken the plunge. Everything seemed to be going well and I've partitioned and installed ubuntu BUT when I get my boot menu and choose to run ubuntu it comes up witht he slpash screen then kicks me out into a command prompt screen. It tells me I can type help for options
[15:51] <erUSUL> Akkernight: uso "sudo make install"
[15:51] <Spaff> where has my nice GUI gone?
[15:51] <Nexiv`> can someone tell me how to completely remove AWN? everytime I do a reinstall it remembers my previous settings
[15:51] <erki> Spaff: Did you use the alternative install cd_
[15:51] <erki> ?
[15:51] <Spaff> no
[15:51] <erUSUL> Nexiv`: the settings in your home are not removed. find them and remove them by hand
[15:52]  * Spaff thought he was all prepared and good to go
[15:52] <erki> Spaff: Cause it looks like ubuntu_desktop didn't get installed.
[15:52] <Spaff> why might that be?
[15:52] <an>  hi guys, anyone knows how to del the shortcuts of local harddisk drive but retain the mobile ones' shortcuts?
[15:52] <MrEgg964> michael: try: dpkg-reconfigure --all
[15:52] <erUSUL> !boot | Spaff have you tried any boot option?
[15:52] <an>  hi guys, anyone knows how to del the shortcuts of local harddisk drive but retain the mobile ones' shortcuts?
[15:52] <an>  hi guys, anyone knows how to del the shortcuts of local harddisk drive but retain the mobile ones' shortcuts?
[15:52] <erUSUL> Spaff: such as all-generic-ide
[15:53] <erUSUL> Spaff: also check bios settings for your sata controller. the best mode for linux is ahci
[15:53] <Spaff> ok cheers guys, I will have a peek at that
[15:53] <erUSUL> !repeat | an
[15:53] <erki> Spaff: Dunno. Do you have an ethernet cable connected to the computer? If so, you could try running "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". It takes a good while though...
[15:53] <an> sorry
[15:53] <an> im just eager to know that
[15:53] <Akkernight> Why does the make command complain about no space left, when I have 160GB left?
[15:53] <Heatryn> I'm installing the atheros madwifi driver, I did sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules madwifi-tools
[15:53] <Heatryn> now I want to do modprobe ath_pci but he doesn't find the driver
[15:54] <michael> MrEgg964, ah it was dpgk-reconfigure -a
[15:54] <fosco_> Heatryn: try ath5k or ath9k
[15:54] <michael> MrEgg964, i typed 'dpkg --reconfigure -a
[15:54] <gki> hi all - im having a problem whereby im not being shown the login screen on startup and xfix is giving an error message when i try to fix it with that - can anyone help? thans
[15:54] <erki> Akkernight: You're not trying to run make on a CD right?
[15:54] <Nexiv`> erUSUL, thanks
[15:54] <michael> MrEgg964, its running now, thank you :)
[15:54] <MrEgg964> michael: this is a sudo command, don't forget
[15:54] <Akkernight> No, I'm running it on the terminal
[15:55] <erUSUL> an: i do not think what you ask is pssible... either you want the volumes (all of them) to show up on desktop or not
[15:55] <erki> gki: You said "when I try to fix it with that", what specifically is "that"?
[15:55] <erUSUL> Nexiv`: no problem
[15:55] <MrEgg964> michael: you'll probably be asked a few questions along the way - default is generally a good answer to those
[15:55] <erki> gki: Never mind, I re-read and got it :)
[15:55] <michael> MrEgg964, lets hope ;)
[15:55] <erki> gki: What is the error message xfix gives you.
[15:56] <Spaff> erki, how long is "a while"? I do have an ethernet connection. It took me under 20 minutes to install from the cd. Will I be looking at a serious afternoon of waiting with installation via the method you describe?
[15:56] <gki> erki; it dissappears so fast its difficult to catch it - but something like "Can't locate strict.pm"
[15:56] <MrEgg964> michael: I have to go now, good luck - but I'm pretty confident it'll work for you. I did the trick for me, on a system that was completely screwed up.
[15:56] <Akkernight> Now the make command complains about "Read-only file system"
[15:56] <bullgard4> fosco_: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor does not exist in Ubuntu 8.04.1. Can you recommend an introductory article? I googled but with weak success so far.
[15:57] <erki> Spaff: If the installation took 20 minutes, you most likely already have ubuntu-desktop. Especially if you didn't use the alternative install cd. The regular one installs ubuntu-desktop by itself, methinks.
[15:58] <Spaff> well it all looked good erki. Just whe it came to booting up for the first time all I got was an ugly command prompt, wherein I got totally lost
[15:58] <Spaff> I like my gui!
[15:58] <Akkernight> Why doesn't Ubuntu let me install Qt4?
[15:58] <erki> Spaff: Okay, just try to run the command I sent you, I'm pretty sure you can opt out of actually installing after it has checked if you alreday have the package.
[15:58] <erUSUL> Akkernight: paste the output of "cat /proc/mounts "
[15:59] <erUSUL> Akkernight: why are you compiling it from source?
[15:59] <Spaff> ok cool, so I just type that in from the prompt?
[15:59] <erki> Spaff: Yes
[15:59]  * Spaff is gonna go for it
[15:59] <Akkernight> Both the terminal and Add/remove freezed on me now, and I didn't find anyother way than source
[16:00] <LjjjL> in Epiphany, is there a way i can force links that would normally open in a new window to open in a new tab instead?
[16:00] <gki> erki: what i have managed to catch so far: "Can't location strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl/ /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8/ /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/per15" and it goes on - difficult to catch it all
[16:00] <erki> gki: Hmm, lemme check on something
[16:01] <gki> erki: thanks
[16:01] <gki> erki: shall i keep trying to get the full error message?
[16:01] <Spaff> ang on ang on ang on. I've rebooted for a 4th time to get back to this nasty command prompt to try the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop malarkey and suddenly ubuntu seems happier, after a list of errors which appear and promptly disappear again too quickly to read I am presented with that spiffing ubuntu desktop and a rather nice welcoming sound
[16:01]  * Spaff is confused
[16:01] <erUSUL> Akkernight: well the "fs is read only" may be the couse of the synaptic faliure
[16:01] <erUSUL> Akkernight: paste the output of "cat /proc/mounts " as i already requested
[16:02] <jruffin> Can anyone point me to instructions on compiling an ubuntu package from source to apply a bug patch and make a new package to test with?
[16:02] <Akkernight> As I said, both the terminal and Add/Remove freezed, they are white white and won't do anything
[16:03] <n8tuser> Akkernight-> everything frozed?
[16:03] <erki> Spaff: Oo, one of those errors that disappear without intervention. The kind that often comes back without warning too :S
[16:03] <Akkernight> Nope, just those two things
[16:03] <LjjjL> jruffin: you can obtain the source by doing "apt-get source packagename" (do it in an ad-hoc directory). then you do "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename" to download the build dependencies
[16:03] <AzizLight> can i compile asm with gcc?
[16:03] <Spaff> that all sounds a bit windows to me erki. I thought such nastiness was behind me
[16:03] <LjjjL> jruffin: then you edit, but then to build a binary packages there are several ways, and i don't know the merits of each
[16:03] <Crusher> Drive in which i have installed linux is just 10GB.....can i add some more memory to the drive from other drives?
[16:03] <Pici> AzizLight: C and C++ only, I'm afraid.  Nice nick though :)
[16:04] <n8tuser> Akkernight-> you can open another xterm and ps -aux and find the pid of those two terminal apps you run, then kill -15 pidofthose
[16:04] <LjjjL> AzizLight: yes (although it will just call an assembler)
[16:04] <AzizLight> Pici: thanks :P
[16:04] <Spaff> alright so now ubuntu has loaded up for me, can I assume that it will do so on a regular basis when asked, and that the initial failures were just linux getting to grips with my 'pooter?
[16:04] <erUSUL> Akkernight: if you got a read only file system error that indicates a serious error in the filesystem ubuntu is installed on
[16:04] <wisey> what settings do i need on edit partition when installing ubuntu?
[16:04] <Pici> AzizLight: Or listen to LjjjL, he probably knows what hes talking about more than I.
[16:04] <n8tuser> AzizLight-> maybe the -s option?  man gcc
[16:05] <erUSUL> Akkernight: i recommend to boot into a livecd to check the filesystem health
[16:05] <AzizLight> n8tuser: im on a mac i didnt install gcc yet!
[16:05] <wisey> there is three partitions and I want to install under sda3
[16:05] <jruffin> LjjjL: I'm new to ubuntu so anyway would be great. just have to get it into a deb package to get it into someone else's system.
[16:05] <Akkernight> My Ubuntu is installed on same HDD as Vista, and Vista just kills my PC every time I have it run for 1 minute >.> And I do have a good enough PC for Vista :P
[16:05] <soho> hey guys, how can i make my ubuntu kernel "hard" ?
[16:06] <soho> how to linux kernel hardening for ubuntu?
[16:06] <Crusher> Drive in which i have installed linux is just 10GB.....can i add some more memory spac to the drive from other drives?
[16:06] <erki> gki: Sorry, I'm not enough of a wiz to find out which apt package supplies strict.pm...
[16:06] <error404notfound> I am trying to boot my ubuntu to multiuser networking runlevel, I run init 3, and telinit 3 as root, or with sudo, and nothing happens, infact with 3 it runs 5 e.g. starts gdm...
[16:06] <LjjjL> Pici, n8tuser, AzizLight: actually in normal circumstances gcc should just automagically recognize an asm file (especially if it has an .s extension)
[16:06] <erUSUL> soho: define "hard" and "hardening"
[16:07] <ScarletSen> Allo all
[16:07] <soho> make it stronger, to prevent exploits etc
[16:07] <Lasivian> sigh
[16:07] <Slart> Crusher: I'm not sure if you can do it now, you might have to reinstall. Take a look at lvm
[16:07] <erUSUL> error404notfound: in ubuntu/debian all runlevels except 0;1 and 6 are by default equal
[16:07] <ScarletSen> Quick question, someone mind doing a traceroute to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[16:07] <n8tuser> gki-> /usr/share/perl/5.8.8/strict.pm  does this exist on yours?
[16:08] <error404notfound> erUSUL: why? how to change that?
[16:08]  * Lasivian is tired of trying to setup things and not understanding what she's doing, or how to fix it when it doesn't work
[16:08] <giacomo_c> i have this problem with certain icon packs that won't load all the icons and like half are stuck as the default gnome icons
[16:08] <erUSUL> error404notfound: also ubuntu now uses upstart instead of System V init so no /etc/inittab
[16:08] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> you can pick up a book on ubuntu perhaps?
[16:08] <jruffin> erki: dpkg-query -S strict.pm  -> perl-base: /usr/share/perl/5.10.0/strict.pm
[16:08] <erUSUL> error404notfound: just configure the runlevels you want different. see update-rc.d and other helper programs to do that
[16:09] <Tailsfan> Hello Fellow Ubuntu Users
[16:09] <ScarletSen> Allo Tailsfan.
[16:09] <ScarletSen> How're you? XP
[16:09] <Tailsfan> does anyone in here use Ultimate 2.0?
[16:09] <Tailsfan> and I'm fine
[16:09] <Pici> !ultimate | Tailsfan
[16:09] <Lasivian> n8tuser: or google, the problem is still the same tho, I had an error before, I tried to lookup why, I made changes like the website said without really understanding why, I tried again, and got the same error
[16:09] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> the one authored by Mark Sobell is good
[16:09] <ChrisBookwood_> Hi
[16:10] <LjjjL> in Epiphany, is there a way i can force links that would normally open in a new window to open in a new tab instead?
[16:10] <fht> help, I installed 8.10 and my screen has a red tint now (using the xorg ati driver)
[16:10] <Tailsfan> It doesn't show the room name
[16:10] <erki> jruffin: Handy command, thanks!
[16:10] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> what were you changing? which app? and what is it supposed to do?
[16:10] <ChrisBookwood_> I'm on Kubuntu 8.10, and when i do some changes to plasma, like creating other panels, adding widgets and stuff, it goes back to default when i restart. How Do i make plasma keep my settings?
[16:11] <Lasivian> such as the website I was following said "if you get log errors".. that's nice, but I don;t see any logs in the program directory
[16:11] <Lasivian> postfix, trying to send mail
[16:11] <Lasivian> keeps denying the relay
[16:12] <Tailsfan> there is no IRC channel for Ultimate and the only prob I'm having is the Wubi Install
[16:12] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> there is a good book on postfix, oreilly published
[16:12] <erki> !kubuntu | ChrisBookwood_
[16:12] <Lasivian> or i'll find a windows solution that doesn;t require I run out and spend money... which i'm sick of doing
[16:12] <Tailsfan> for whenever I reboot and try to install Ultimate, it just goes to intrinamfis or something like that
[16:12]  * Lasivian just beats her head on the wall instead
[16:12] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> sendmail and its cousins are difficult to configure and one has to really understand how networking work, with dns, servers, smtp, and such
[16:13] <giacomo_c> im having a problem with icons not showing up and instead using the default gnome... how can i fix this?
[16:14] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> creating your own smtp services is for advanced users
[16:14] <Lasivian> I just want an open relay that doesn;t demand a password
[16:14] <c0re__> hello. i want to run wvdial automatically on boot. how do i do it?
[16:14] <giacomo_c> c0re__: under preferences>sessions
[16:14] <Lasivian> of course in this day and age i've got a better chance of asking for a winning lottery ticket
[16:15] <giacomo_c> you can add programs to the startup c0re__
[16:15] <c0re__> giacomo_c, with sudo or without?
[16:15] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> you have to understand, if you allowed, such spamming will proliferate, there are professionals trying to stop that open relay thing
[16:15] <giacomo_c> without
[16:15] <giacomo_c> it's under your menu
[16:15] <c0re__> giacomo_c,  wvdial need sudo to be runed
[16:15] <Lasivian> n8tuser: how hard can it really be.. "I want you to send this email to that domain", yes I know, because of spammers it's become a living hell
[16:15] <c0re__> giacomo_c,  i know about sessions....
[16:16] <c0re__> i already added it but no luck :p
[16:16] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> if you really want to understand the why's of it, read the book on sendmail or the book on postfix from oreilly
[16:16] <Lasivian> I mean I just want to send to one email address too
[16:16] <giacomo_c> c0re__: maybe add gksudo wvdial
[16:16] <giacomo_c> so it'll run with sudo
[16:16] <Shark||> i have another problem, i have the iso of the ubuntu 8.04 lts and i have Nero to burn it, but, should i burn With "cd-rom (autostart) or just  "cd-rom (iso)" :/
[16:16] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> the receiving end has to allow you in, they check such things as PTR records on MX
[16:16] <Lasivian> ie. "I want to turn one bolt", "well, you have to build a factory, forge your own wrench, hire a union, and he'll schedule a day to turn your bolt"
[16:17] <c0re__> ok brb
[16:17] <c0re__> lamme try it
[16:17] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> whining is not going to help you, i already advised you of what books to use as reference
[16:17] <Lasivian> n8tuser: and since this is a home issue that I have no money to spend on it i'm trying to at least be comical before I throw out the whole thing completely :)
[16:18] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> well you can spend a couple of cups of java hanging out at borders or barnes and noble while reading those two books?
[16:18] <anubis> is there a command to see all info about my computer / maybe which version macbook i have
[16:19] <Lasivian> yeah, but i'm a chick, I learn by asking lots of questions and usually asking guys to do it for me
[16:19] <Lasivian> duh
[16:19] <selinuxium> Can anyone recommend a good website stress testing app?
[16:19] <n8tuser> oh oh that technique
[16:20] <Shark||> so, hmm, anyone knows? should i burn it with "cd-rom (iso)" or with "cd-rom (boot)"
[16:20] <pochi_> hello
[16:20] <Shark||> hi :)
[16:20] <pochi_> I am not shore if this is the correct place
[16:20] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> ask the guys that hang out at coffee shops reading those kind of books, they will jump at the chance ..hehe
[16:20] <Spaff> ok ok linux fans, sorry to sound like a total pleb but wy is the install option on my ubuntu desktop when I am supposed to be runnig it as my actual installed OS now? Anyone?
[16:20] <erUSUL> !iso | Shark||
[16:20]  * jimcooncat posts selinuxium's website on /. and digg
[16:20] <pochi_> I am traying to use ubifs
[16:20] <selinuxium> jimcooncat: :)
[16:20] <pochi_> but can not do mkfs.ubifs
[16:20] <Shark||> oh, thank u very much :)
[16:21] <Slart> Spaff: are you running the live cd?
[16:21] <n8tuser> Spaff-> are you sure you are booted of your hard disk and not livecd ?
[16:21] <jimcooncat> selinuxium: just an off moment, I'll shut up now
[16:21] <jruffin> Lasivian, running an open relay on the internet will get your mail banned from most servers. If you aren't going to recieve any mail, just put it on your own computer or a server you can ssh to and mail directly from the mail server machine.
[16:21] <Lasivian> this might be a silly question, but why is there no semi-automated GUI for setting up an smtp server on ubuntu?
[16:21] <Spaff> Slart, I did originally, but then I isntalled it, spent 20 minutes whilst it got underway, rebooted and got my boot menu to choose ubuntu then is loaded up
[16:21] <Spaff> BUT, I'm sceptical as to whether tis is native or in fact still the cd, how would I tell?
[16:21] <n8tuser> Lasivian-> it is not silly, smtp are for professionals
[16:21] <pochi_> how can I create a partition with ubifs?
[16:22] <Slart> Spaff: I think you're still running the live cd if you've got that install icon.. did you remove the cd?
[16:22] <selinuxium> jimcooncat: No worries, I have a sense of humour! :)
[16:22] <Lasivian> jruffin: yes, i'm not getting any mail. I have a rai running on one machine that can send alerts when it crashes, but the program does not have a field for an smtp password