[04:01] <siorfin> anyone know anything about ipw2100?
[04:01] <nalioth> kiwiwikki: if anyone knows how to help you, they will, otherwise, please wait a few minutes tween the same question
[04:01] <tiglionabbit> steven__: I don't mean a laptop battery, I mean the CMOS battery.  But if the clock is correct, does it set it using the internet, or is the error just harmless?
[04:01] <Sysace> crazyhorse:  thanks.. I was just hoping to use it now that I had it downloaded, but obviously I'd be better off trying to get a copy of 5.04
[04:01] <DoesntMat> it goes to the last page of when i was reconfiguring my xorg.conf and it was waiting for me ..
[04:01] <kiwiwikki> ok thanks
[04:01] <DoesntMat> says my user name@root___
[04:02] <steven__> i think is error harmless but i was wondering if i can fix it
[04:02] <DoesntMat> text line bliking
[04:02] <crazyhorse> Sysace, yeah, i think so ;) you could try if there are special boot options for an installation, but it's better to fetch hoary ;)
[04:02] <tiglionabbit> steven__: well you could blacklist your clock, but that would be ridiculous.  I'm not sure what is causing it..
[04:03] <djs> DoesntMat, sorry - i'm a little confused - were you able to type    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   ?
[04:03] <Sysace> crazyhorse:  been reading the help available on boot, but any installation options I find still seem to leave me in a livecd env.
[04:03] <steven__> well thats cool
[04:03] <crazyhorse> Sysace, well, then this is really just a live cd
[04:03] <tiglionabbit> Sysace: search http://wiki.ubuntu.com for the guide
[04:04] <basetan> kde for ubuntu???
[04:04] <DoesntMat> ya
[04:04] <tiglionabbit> basetan: kubuntu
[04:04] <Kyral> Kubuntu
[04:04] <siorfin> anyone know anything about ipw2100
[04:04] <DoesntMat> it brought me to a login page..but no mouse working
[04:04] <Epithett> "to get there type: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" where do i type that?
[04:04] <DoesntMat> = (
[04:05] <djs> DoesntMat, =(
[04:05] <rpj911> Hello,   I would like to edit my /etc/apt/source.list , is there a way to switch into su without loging in and out as root?
[04:05] <basetan> alguno habla
[04:05] <coolkev> what is the easiest program to set up an ftp on ubuntu, i like something with g.u.i and easy to use interface like those seen on windows platform
[04:05] <siorfin> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[04:05] <linlin> rpj911 sudo su root
[04:05] <tiglionabbit> Epithett: type commands at the terminal, or a virtual terminal.  Run xterm or console or terminal, or switch to a virtual terminal using control-alt and an F key
[04:05] <Mobius> or you can run a root terminal, right?
[04:05] <DoesntMat> anymore ideas  ?..my mouse works under knoppix
[04:06] <nalioth> rpj911: we use sudo in ubuntu
[04:06] <ravenous> does anyone know what the absolute path to gaim is in ubuntu?
[04:06] <tiglionabbit> DoesntMat: you could use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the proper options for it
[04:06] <nalioth> ravenous: open a terminal and type "which gaim"
[04:06] <djs> DoesntMat, You can try reconfiguring xorg again, trying different settings (port?) for the mouse.  It is unusual that it hasn't worked at the install though.
[04:07] <DoesntMat> ya...but i am not sure what those options are =(
[04:07] <Heathen> This is sooo frustrating
[04:07] <rpj911> tnx for the pointers...
[04:07] <DoesntMat> i just left as default and chnaged what i knew i needed too
[04:07] <tiglionabbit> Heathen: what is?
[04:07] <ravenous> thanx, tahts what I thought it was.
[04:07] <DoesntMat> ill try alterning some of the mouse options
[04:07] <Heathen> I JUST installed Ubuntu and my passwords are not working... keep getting errors on anything I do
[04:07] <ravenous> I just did a fresh reinstall of ubuntu, and am trying to install the new xfire plugin for gaim... but with no luck
[04:08] <djs> DoesntMat, yes that's what i meant - but probably didn't say too well :)
[04:08] <gm78> Heathen: which passwords?
[04:08] <DoesntMat> ok =)
[04:08] <DoesntMat> i just need some patience
[04:08] <Heathen> ANY!!  I try to go to user settings and it asks for my password... I enter it and I get an error
[04:08] <SysFail> heathen...they are case sensitive
[04:08] <SysFail> got caps lock off etc?
[04:08] <Heathen> I know
[04:08] <SysFail> ok
[04:09] <KillerSmurf> anyone here have any exper with wacom?
[04:09] <Heathen> trued that :D
[04:09] <cris> how to install portuguease package to Firefox?
[04:09] <tiglionabbit> KillerSmurf: I have a tablet pc working with pressure sensitivity
[04:09] <SysFail> but you can login heathen?
[04:09] <SysFail> get to gnome or whatever?
[04:09] <Heathen> Yeah I can login to the desktop... but from there nothing
[04:09] <gm78> Heathen : but u can log in fine?
[04:09] <SysFail> weird
[04:10] <KillerSmurf> tig... I have a serial pad i sort of have working any suggestions
[04:10] <nalioth> very weird
[04:10] <SysFail> shouldnt be able to login
[04:10] <SysFail> if the pass is hosed
[04:10] <cris> how to install portuguease package to Firefox? obs.: I use warty
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> KillerSmurf: get `wacom-tools` and also the wacom kernel source, and follow the wacom-linux-project from chapter 4
[04:11] <KillerSmurf> tig.. thanks
[04:11] <Mobius> does anyone use photo-album like software?
[04:11] <Heathen> Yup.. here is an error .... "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic  --update-at-startup --noninteractive --hide main window   Child terminated with 1 status"
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> KillerSmurf: You'll want to get `wacdump` to give proper output.  Then you know you're on the right track.  After that all you need to do is configure the gimp
[04:12] <raoul> cris: # apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> and your xserver for the input
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> xserver first
[04:12] <Heathen> Anyone?
[04:12] <DoesntMat> what prt would /dev/psaux be ? ..would it be for ps2 mouses ?
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> Heathen: try running Applications->System Tools->Root Terminal, and typing synaptic into that
[04:13] <tiglionabbit> after entering your password
[04:13] <Heathen> the root password right?
[04:13] <SysFail> there is no root pass
[04:13] <cris> raul: $ apt-cache search mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt
[04:13] <cris> raul: $
[04:14] <Heathen> I get the same error!! :(
[04:14] <cris> searche
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> !root
[04:14] <ubotu> I guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> have you read this, Heathen?  ^
[04:14] <cris> There isn't "mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-pt" package
[04:15] <Heathen> looking now
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> cris: what are you searching for?  Try being more general, like saying 'firefox' instead
[04:15] <minkymeow> Hey...for some reason I'm not able to change my resolution in X
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> minkymeow: me neither, sucks, doesn't it?  You can probably add modes to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:16] <minkymeow> the only option it gives me is 1024x768
[04:16] <cris> tiglionabbit-> I want install the portuguease package for Firefox. But I don't know how to do it
[04:16] <raoul> cris: you can download it from debian.org and install it with dpkg --install
[04:16] <coolkev> is it possible to install and run winrar with WINE
[04:16] <minkymeow> yeah I tried playing with the file but its seems like it has no effect
[04:16] <^thehatsrule^> coolkev: why would you
[04:17] <coolkev> i need it
[04:17] <cris> raul, do you know the full URL to debian.org?
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: DO NOT DO THAT.  There are much better ways.  Install the rar package
[04:17] <coolkev> yes but i need winrar
[04:17] <coolkev> sicne the ones on linux are no good
[04:17] <steven__> is there any channel for ubuntu amd64
[04:17] <coolkev> they have CRC cheakers
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: then your gui archive managers like fileroller will be able to use rar format
[04:17] <coolkev> and i have tog et past them
[04:17] <tiglionabbit> crc?
[04:17] <coolkev> ye i have it already
[04:18] <nalioth> coolkev: unrar or unrar-nonfree work on every rar i use them on
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> oh, get restricted rar 2.0 package
[04:18] <coolkev> yes i have
[04:18] <raoul> cris: http://www.debian.org
[04:18] <coolkev> where i get restricted rar
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: enable the restricted and universe and multiverse repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list by uncommenting them
[04:19] <DoesntMat> lol..i just did that thing reconfigure mouse thing for all  the mouse ports
[04:19] <DoesntMat> none worked
[04:19] <coolkev> they already
[04:19] <coolkev> are
[04:19] <tiglionabbit> DoesntMat: you will have to restart X for the settings to take effect
[04:19] <DoesntMat> i did
[04:19] <tiglionabbit> oh
[04:19] <DoesntMat> i typed in sudo/etc/init.d/gdm restart for ever yone
[04:19] <steven__> is there any channel for ubuntu amd64
[04:20] <tiglionabbit> were you logged out of your session and all when you did that?
[04:20] <DoesntMat> yes
[04:20] <coolkev> tiglionabbit i ave them uncommented now what i do
[04:20] <DoesntMat> i might just need to buy a new  mouse tommorow =(..only like fifteen bucks
[04:21] <DoesntMat> ill just make sure its a linux ready mouse
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: now apt-get update
[04:21] <dabaR_> coolkev sudo aptitude update
[04:22] <DoesntMat> o ya..i need to learn how to compile my own kernel so that it supports apic mode on..is that hard ?
[04:22] <siorfin> anyone know how to get ipw2100 working for centrinos?
[04:22] <coolkev> for restricted rar
[04:22] <coolkev> it's all been done
[04:22] <coolkev> Dekkard why using version on me>?
[04:22] <dabaR_> sudo aptitude search rar\
[04:22] <DoesntMat> ubuntu only boots up if my apic mode is off in my bios,....but then it fucks my windws os up if i turn it off
[04:22] <dabaR_> no \
[04:23] <Dekkard> coolkev:  because of youir accent
[04:23] <idge> hey does anyone know how to make a boot disk from sbm.bin using dd?
[04:23] <coolkev> huh
[04:23] <coolkev> accent?
[04:23] <coolkev> i'm typing
[04:23] <DoesntMat> thanks for the help guys...better luck next time =(
[04:23] <coolkev> not talking
[04:24] <Dekkard> you type with an accent
[04:24] <dabaR_> did the search?
[04:24] <idge> in the ubuntu 5.04 install cd it tells me to do that
[04:24] <bartekp> siorfin: ipw2100.sf.net
[04:24] <coolkev> Dekkard: please don't lie, just be honest that you checking to see if you can hack or exploit me
[04:24] <dabaR_> hehe, did the search, coolkev?
[04:24] <Dekkard> coolkev:  this is a linux room
[04:25] <Dekkard> dont be silly
[04:25] <coolkev> Dekkard: and if I do speak with an accent i asked a linux question
[04:25] <coolkev> ye i did
[04:25] <raoul> idge: # dd if=smb.bin of=/dev/fd0
[04:25] <coolkev> i don't see restricted rar
[04:25] <dabaR_> ok, did it come up with a package name for unrar-nonfree?
[04:25] <coolkev> ye i see it
[04:25] <dabaR_> ok, sudo aptitude install it
[04:25] <coolkev> non free means i have to pay for it?
[04:25] <dabaR_> yup
[04:26] <dabaR_> to my bank account
[04:26] <idge> raoul: awsome....will try this
[04:26] <dabaR_> cause I told you how...
[04:26] <coolkev> are you jokin or being serious
[04:26] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: nonfree means there is no source code available
[04:26] <dabaR_> no its free like beer
[04:26] <tiglionabbit> it's still free to use though
[04:26] <coolkev> ohh ok
[04:26] <kiwiwikki> anybody know about CUPS unix print...plzz
[04:26] <dabaR_> I dont pay for beer...
[04:26] <dabaR_> I read about it once...
[04:26] <dabaR_> kiwiwikki ^
[04:27] <rossbot> skeebledee
[04:27] <Dekkard> okeee
[04:27] <Dekkard> gettin a bit deep..
[04:27] <kiwiwikki> ye dabar
[04:27] <kiwiwikki> can u hel me
[04:27] <kiwiwikki> can u help me
[04:28] <dabaR_> I read about it once...if you state your issue, I will tell you if I can fix it.
[04:28] <Kyral> Anyone know how to install Eclipse IDE?
[04:28] <kiwiwikki> ok thanks
[04:28] <dabaR_> Kyral go to their site, and downlolad the binary.
[04:28] <dabaR_> then run it, thats it
[04:28] <Kyral> oh...
[04:28] <Kyral> why isn't it in Apt? :P
[04:28] <dabaR_> yeah, I had the same resaction...
[04:29] <dabaR_> figure it out for yourself...
[04:29] <dabaR_> maybe it even is in multiverse, dunno
[04:29] <gm78> Kyral : it is a java program, so since java isnt in ubuntus apt repos, they cant include it
[04:29] <coolkev> can some 1 tell me what I'd type to extract a file with unrar and ave it disable crc or any error checker.. sicne the file is not 100% complete
[04:29] <dabaR_> man rar, I think, or man unrar
[04:30] <gm78> Kyral : altho Red Hat has made it compile with gcj...so maybe it will be included some day
[04:30] <idge> raoul: didn't work...says not a directory. any other ideas?
[04:30] <gegekt> info rar
[04:31] <bartekp> coolkev: kb options
[04:31] <bartekp> option
[04:31] <steven__> is there some kind of program like gift for amd64
[04:32] <gm78> steven__: what exactly does gift do?
[04:32] <coolkev> ok i'm stuck in man unrar
[04:32] <gm78> coolkev : what are you trying to do?
[04:32] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: hit q
[04:32] <transgress> if you are having problems with rar you could always use ark... it handles rars if you have unrar-nonfree
[04:32] <coolkev> like how i go back to console
[04:32] <steven__> gm78, its a pear to pear program
[04:32] <coolkev> ohh no
[04:32] <ninwa> coolkev, ctrl z ?
[04:32] <rossbot> hihi peoples
[04:32] <gegekt> heh, pear to pear
[04:32] <coolkev> q worked
[04:32] <izzo> How do I reset my USB devices?
[04:32] <gm78> coolkev: hitting q works too
[04:33] <izzo> I know you can reset PCMCIA
[04:33] <gm78> steven__: the only ones i know of are limewire and edonkey (limewire is better IMO)
[04:33] <tiglionabbit> coolkev: man opens your pager, which by default is "less".  `man less` to read about how to control it
[04:33] <dabaR_> gtk-gnutella is a ptp shraing.
[04:33] <coolkev> ok the file in in my home folder called file.rar now this file has everything complete except for one file... but i want the unrar to ignore that it's incomplete and extract it regardless
[04:33] <nalioth> gm78: gtk-gnutella i prefer over limewire
[04:33] <ninwa> I use gtk-gnutella
[04:34] <ninwa> works great
[04:34] <dabaR_> yup
[04:34] <ninwa> amazing download speeds
[04:34] <dabaR_> real program.
[04:34] <nalioth> coolkev: type "unrar" or "unrar --help" to find out how
[04:34] <dabaR_> like, has what it needs to have
[04:34] <gm78> ninwa / nalioth : i had problems with gtk-gnutella...altho i guess i could try it again, that was a long time ago
[04:34] <gm78> nalioth : does it do anything better than limewire?
[04:34] <ravenous> can anyone help me setup apt?
[04:34] <nalioth> gm78: it DOESNT use java
[04:34] <steven__> gm78, why it doesnt find the limewire when i hit apt-cache search limewire
[04:34] <gegekt> coolkev, you need to install rar from marillat
[04:34] <dabaR_> that, and it also has a search more...
[04:35] <dabaR_> like, it searches as long as it is on, limewire stops after a while, and there is no search more button
[04:35] <nalioth> ravenous: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo
[04:35] <ravenous> I tried sudo apt-get build-dep gaim and got an error saying I need some source urls
[04:35] <crimsun> (unrar-nonfree is in multiverse)
[04:35] <coolkev> VA-Itation_Sound_-_High_Grade_Forever_Volume_28-(Promo_CD)-2005-MNC/01-va_-_itation_sound_high_grade_forever_volume_28-MNC.mp3 - CRC failed
[04:36] <coolkev> see i get that when i type unrar e file.rar
[04:36] <nalioth> ravenous: ah, then you need to open /etc/apt/sources.list (using sudo) and remove the # from in front of line starting with "deb-src"
[04:36] <gm78> steven__: limewire isnt in ubuntus repos, it is also a java program, u need to grab java from www.java.com and limewire from www.limewire.com
[04:36] <coolkev> it goes all the way to 99% and then screws up
[04:36] <raoul> idge: you must run dd as root to use it on block device as /dev/fd0
[04:36] <dabaR_> and no files, coolkev ?
[04:36] <coolkev> i get the files that are 100%
[04:36] <coolkev> one this one file that is 99% i don't get
[04:36] <dabaR_> ah
[04:37] <xxtreme> ravenous= try installing gaim with synaptic, sometimes apt doesn't find all the dep
[04:37] <dabaR_> ok, whatever, I dont kno.
[04:37] <coolkev> lol
[04:37] <gm78> steven__: if u need help installing it, query me
[04:37] <coolkev> gegekt coolkev, you need to install rar from marillat <--- will this work
[04:37] <steven__> gm78, ok thats cool
[04:37] <dabaR_> its the same one...
[04:37] <Davey> coolkev: a CRC error means you have a b0rked archive
[04:37] <ravenous> gaim is already installed
[04:38] <steven__> why do i get this error duplicate sources.list entry
[04:38] <Davey> what are you trying to install then ravenous ?
[04:38] <Davey> steven__: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove any duplicates :)
[04:38] <tiglionabbit> steven__: perhaps it means you have duplicate entries in sources.list?
[04:39] <ravenous> I have a fresh install of ubuntu, with the default gaim. Someone told me I needed to do the apt-get build-dep gaim to get an xfire plugin working
[04:40] <tiglionabbit> what's the xfire plugin do?
[04:40] <steven__> should i uncomment deb security.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <Davey> tiglionabbit: for?
[04:40] <Davey> oh :)
[04:40] <ravenous> allows you to use xfire through gaim
[04:41] <ravenous> whats the edit command in terminal?
[04:41] <ravenous> to edit the list file
[04:41] <dabaR_> ok, one, two three,,,
[04:41] <transgress> sources.list?  well you could do vi, pico, edit, emacs
[04:41] <Davey> nano
[04:41] <nalioth> ravenous: stick with nano
[04:41] <ravenous> which is easier for a newb?
[04:41] <transgress> learn vi
[04:41] <Davey> nano or pico
[04:41] <nalioth> ravenous: nano
[04:42] <raoul> ravenous: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:42] <ravenous> so "sudo nano sources.lst"
[04:42] <dabaR_> yes, if you are in /etc/apt
[04:42] <ravenous> so "sudo nano sources.list"
[04:42] <ravenous> i am
[04:42] <zerokills> hey, whats the name of that free firewall?
[04:42] <gm78> ravenous: use nano for cli and gedit for gui, both are very easy
[04:42] <transgress> zerokills: hahahahaha
[04:42] <dabaR_> in Linux? zerokills ?
[04:42] <steven__> whats that of restricted packages int the sources.list file
[04:43] <ravenous> gedit won;t let me un comment
[04:43] <gm78> zerokills : are you thinking of iptables?
[04:43] <coolkev> is gaim buggy when you turn logs on
[04:43] <transgress> ravenous: did you run sudo gedit?
[04:43] <coolkev> ?
[04:43] <WebMaven> How do I take a screenshot when the browser has a dropdown open?
[04:43] <transgress> coolkev: no
[04:43] <ravenous> in terminal?
[04:43] <gm78> ravenous: u need to run it as sudo....otherwise u dont have the permissions necessary to edit the file
[04:43] <odie5533> Is there an IRC client for the console?
[04:43] <zerokills> dabaR_, yea in linux
[04:43] <transgress> WebMaven: print screen button
[04:43] <tiglionabbit> steven__: restricted means formats that aren't "free as in freedom", like windows codecs and java and such
[04:43] <zerokills> gm78, no, not that
[04:43] <dabaR_> eveerything pretty much is free in linux
[04:43] <steven__> oh i c
[04:43] <dabaR_> firestarter, iptables...
[04:43] <WebMaven> transgress, doesn't work if the browser has the dropdown open.
[04:43] <coolkev> ok good cause me and my friends get drunk/high and have very interesting convos but i don't remember them so i wnana log them
[04:43] <nalioth> odie5533: irssi
[04:43] <steven__> well thanks for all the help
[04:44] <zerokills> ahh yea, firestarter
[04:44] <gm78> zerokills : guarddog for kde and firestarter for gnome, firestarter is much easier to use, guarddog gives u more control
[04:44] <transgress> WebMaven: SOL?
[04:44] <zerokills> k thanks
[04:44] <dabaR_> thanks for the laugh
[04:44] <raoul> odie5533: irssi
[04:44] <dabaR_> I mean, nothing mean, just funny.
[04:44] <WebMaven> transgress, that's not helpful.
[04:44] <transgress> WebMaven: but perhaps it's true
[04:45] <YoNecisitoMeAyud> hi
[04:45] <zerokills> dabaR_, thanking me for the laugh?
[04:45] <WebMaven> perhaps, perhaps not. Do you *know* I'm SOL?
[04:45] <YoNecisitoMeAyud> can someone help me?
[04:45] <Mobius> would anyone be willing to help me get my sound working on my asus notebook?
[04:45] <dabaR_> yeah, it was kinda funny how you said whats the name of that free program for linux...
[04:46] <zerokills> ahh right, hehe
[04:46] <YoNecisitoMeAyud> I am new to ubuntu and I am wondering what is the default root password?
[04:46] <WebMaven> Does anyone have a suggestion for taking screenshots if the browser has a dropdown open?
[04:46] <Davey> YoNecisitoMeAyud: there is none
[04:47] <gm78> Mobius: just started a private chat with u
[04:47] <Davey> YoNecisitoMeAyud: prefix a command with "sudo " to make it execute with root perms (give your own user password)
[04:47] <ravenous> gm78 can I send you the error I'm getting?
[04:47] <Davey> YoNecisitoMeAyud: or, if you *need* the root account, "sudo passwd root" and set one
[04:47] <YoNecisitoMeAyud> Davey: what happens when I type su in a terminal
[04:47] <dabaR_> it ndont work
[04:47] <Davey> YoNecisitoMeAyud: it is set you cannot login as root
[04:47] <Davey> YoNecisitoMeAyud: till you set a password.
[04:47] <nalioth> YoNecisitoMeAyud: watch ubotu
[04:48] <nalioth> !root
[04:48] <ubotu> root is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:48] <raoul> YoNecisitoMeAyud: sudo passwd root
[04:48] <WebMaven> YoNecisitoMeAyud, you can do sudo su
[04:48] <djs> YoNecisitoMeAyud, use sudo -i (then your own password)
[04:48] <YoNecisitoMeAyud> Thanks
[04:49] <brendan_> Whats another web browser?
[04:49] <coolkev> lsd
[04:49] <lifeless> links
[04:49] <lifeless> lynx
[04:49] <lifeless> telnet
[04:49] <nalioth>  brendan_ there are many
[04:49] <lifeless> mozilla
[04:49] <lifeless> amaya
[04:49] <brendan_> A graphical one
[04:49] <nalioth> kazehakaze
[04:49] <nalioth> dillo
[04:49] <WebMaven> Still wondering how to take a screnshot with a dropdown open in the browser... help?
[04:49] <lifeless> off the top of my head
[04:49] <nalioth> galeon
[04:49] <nalioth> epiphany
[04:49] <amonkey> what's a clock skew? my laptop errors about it when i compile things
[04:49] <brendan_> Whats the one that starts with n
[04:49] <lifeless> firefox
[04:49] <lifeless> netscape
[04:49] <brendan_> Other one
[04:49] <lifeless> nutscrape
[04:49] <brendan_> lol
[04:49] <djs> lol
[04:49] <coolkev> sudo apt-get install lsd
[04:49] <brendan_> nautiluse or something
[04:49] <brendan_> What is it?
[04:50] <nalioth> brendan_: nautilus is a file mangler
[04:50] <WebMaven> what's wrong with FireFox?
[04:50] <brendan_> Damn
[04:50] <brendan_> lol
[04:50] <brendan_> Firefox is going really slow
[04:50] <brendan_> for somereason
[04:50] <nalioth> brendan_: use galeon
[04:50] <brendan_> Im going to try a different browser
[04:50] <brendan_> Okay
[04:50] <WebMaven> number of open winows and tabs?
[04:50] <nalioth> brendan_: galeon uses the gecko engine, but is written in gtk (for gnome)
[04:51] <WebMaven> nalioth, same is true of epiphany, correct?
[04:51] <brendan_> can someone send me their sources file?
[04:51] <brendan_> I cant use firefox at all for somereason
[04:51] <brendan_> It takes 10 mins to load google.com
[04:51] <nalioth> WebMaven: i don't know. i tried epiphany and wasnt impressed
[04:51] <dabaR_> there is a damn small linux browser, very minimalistic...
[04:51] <dabaR_> but, you may be having connection issues
[04:51] <WebMaven> wasn't making a recommendation...
[04:52] <Davey> dabaR_: Dillo?
[04:52] <rc51woody> evening room... during startup when my system states its starting network connections it pauses for a long time.. i have wireless.. but it also gives me a list of files that it ignores also.
[04:52] <nalioth> dabaR_: yes, it's called dillo and it sucks harshly
[04:52] <brendan_> !faq
[04:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[04:52] <WebMaven> Ok, still  advice on taking screenshots of browsers with a dropdown open.
[04:53] <WebMaven> Ok, still *need* advice on taking screenshots of browsers with a dropdown open.
[04:53] <dabaR_> I agree, I think he may be having connection issues... ping google, see if it takes longer than 150 ms...
[04:53] <dabaR_> then if it dont]
[04:53] <dabaR_> clear your cache
[04:53] <dabaR_> and cookies see if that helps
[04:53] <orlando> hey you're having DNS problems too>
[04:53] <dabaR_> maybe he has a full cache
[04:53] <dabaR_> I bet you have Comcast, orlando
[04:54] <orlando> no
[04:54] <orlando> time-warner
[04:54] <dabaR_> hehe, nice, I was wrong...
[04:54] <WebMaven> brendan_, was the FAQ link for me?
[04:54] <hondje> WebMaven: run 'sleep 5; import -window root screenshot.png' and while it waits open the drop box down
[04:54] <dabaR_> nice
[04:55] <odie5533_> How do I change between channels in bitchx?
[04:55] <tiglionabbit> odie5533_: control-X
[04:55] <odie5533_> ty
[04:56] <tiglionabbit> odie5533_: though I really would recommend trying irssi.  http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[04:56] <Xyc0> wo hooo!! I got my wireless working with NDISWrapper
[04:56] <nalioth> odie5533_: when you get tired of bitch-x, try irssi
[04:56] <Xyc0> its a womderful thing
[04:56] <odie5533_> Ah I think I'll try it right now
[04:56] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: no more ESP (at least aim it somewhere else)
[04:56] <dabaR_> I think google is being slow now...
[04:56] <WebMaven> hondje, 'bash: import: command not found'
[04:57] <tiglionabbit> ESP?
[04:57] <odie5533_> does sudo apt-get install irssi work?
[04:57] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: Extra Sensory Perception (quit reading my mind)
[04:57] <nalioth> odie5533_: it is installed already
[04:57] <tiglionabbit> odie5533_: yes, though I believe it is installed by default
[04:57] <hondje> WebMaven: oh, hrm, it's part of the imagemagick package
[04:57] <Xyc0> I think i have ESPN
[04:57] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: SEE??
[04:57] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: quit it! :)
[04:58] <zerokills> i know you guys were just talking about this, but i forgot already, whats another web browser besides firefox, for gnome
[04:58] <hondje> epiphany, mozilla, galeon
[04:58] <nalioth> zerokills: epiphany, galeon, kazekahaze, dillo
[04:58] <dabaR_> Internet Expplorer...
[04:58] <Xyc0> ha ha ha ha
[04:58] <hondje> opera
[04:58] <auk> epiphany
[04:58] <auk> oh.
[04:58] <auk> ok
[04:58] <robitaille> elinks
[04:58] <auk> opera
[04:58] <nalioth> hondje: fsck opera
[04:58] <auk> lynx
[04:58] <Xyc0> Nautilis works too right?
[04:58] <hondje> nalioth: they're all the same to me
[04:58] <hondje> crap!
[04:59] <auk> ?
[04:59] <nalioth> Xyc0: nautilus is a file mangler
[04:59] <odie5533> Irssi it is ;)
[04:59] <auk> ?
[04:59] <auk> mangler?
[04:59] <Xyc0> nalioth: Cant you use it to view HTML as well?
[04:59] <nalioth> auk: my funny joke (switching "manager" for "mangler"
[04:59] <nalioth> Xyc0: i have no idea
[04:59] <nalioth> Xyc0: i've never tried
[04:59] <dabaR_> no
[05:00] <auk> yes, but do you really thinkit mangles files?
[05:00] <Xyc0> nalioth: I remeber doing it in old RH
[05:00] <auk> no...
[05:00] <nalioth> Xyc0: i think it sucks a file mangler, so i never ever thought about pointing it at the web
[05:00] <auk> only source code
[05:00] <Varanger2> hi crimsun
[05:00] <auk> ?
[05:00] <nalioth> auk: all graphical file things mangle
[05:00] <auk> hmm
[05:00] <hondje> no way
[05:00] <Xyc0> nalioth: do you use konquer?
[05:00] <hondje> there are a lot of times it's faster
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> wtf, file mangler?  It's a file "manager"
[05:00] <Epithett> ubuntu really needs a new way to get linksys usb adapters to work on their system without any heavy duty work
[05:01] <auk> that is one way that the gui wins
[05:01] <auk> in navigating directories.
[05:01] <nalioth> Xyc0: yes i use konqueror
[05:01] <orlando> how do i check which services are running
[05:01] <auk> ps
[05:01] <auk> top
[05:01] <hondje> pstree!
[05:01] <hondje> :)
[05:01] <auk> orlando" *
[05:02] <auk> orlando: *
[05:02] <hondje> or if you're not that lazy, ps auxf
[05:02] <lappy74__> hello i have a question, i need to download the build-essential and kernel headers, is there a repositories for those packages somewhere? i kinda poked around and couldn't find anything of the like
[05:02] <tiglionabbit> orlando: applications->system tools->system monitor
[05:02] <nalioth> lappy74__: they should be there for you
[05:02] <orlando> i dont see nscd listed
[05:02] <orlando> does it not come with ubuntu?
[05:02] <dabaR_> its in main, build-essential is...
[05:03] <nalioth> Zuiden: use synaptic to find them
[05:03] <Zuiden> well i need to download them while in my windows boot
[05:03] <Zuiden> so synaptic isn't an option
[05:03] <nalioth> Zuiden: ah
[05:03] <nalioth> Zuiden: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:03] <Zuiden> unless ubuntu supports wusb11
[05:03] <Zuiden> alright
[05:03] <Zuiden> and the command for installilng a synaptic package is?
[05:03] <auk> orlando: never heard of it.
[05:03] <orlando> name server cache daemon
[05:04] <nalioth> Zuiden: synaptic is a frontend for apt-get
[05:04] <auk> try apt-getting it
[05:04] <Zuiden> oh gotcha
[05:04] <orlando> apt-get nscd?
[05:04] <nalioth> what is nscd?
[05:04] <auk> maybe
[05:04] <dabaR_> you mean once you have the deb how to install it, Zuiden
[05:04] <orlando> name server cache daemon
[05:04] <odie5533> How do I enable color highlighting in VIM?
[05:04] <Zuiden> exatly
[05:04] <Zuiden> i know in fedora i could rpm
[05:04] <auk> blah
[05:05] <Zuiden> rpm [package]
[05:05] <tiglionabbit> odie5533: vimtutor and read the very last section
[05:05] <nalioth> Zuiden: here it's "apt-get install <pkgname>"
[05:05] <auk> sudo *
[05:05] <Zuiden> so CD to the directory and apt get install
[05:05] <auk> tothe dir?
[05:05] <auk> is the package on your hard dirve?
[05:05] <tiglionabbit> Zuiden: if you're used to using the rpm command, apt will be a huge breath of fresh air.  It finds the dependencies for you!
[05:05] <orlando> synaptic is just the gui for apt-get right?
[05:05] <orlando> same thing? same packages?
[05:06] <tiglionabbit> yes
[05:06] <Zuiden> haha
[05:06] <auk> yep
[05:06] <tiglionabbit> that's why it's called synAPTic
[05:06] <orlando> ok thanks
[05:06] <Zuiden> well i was using the fedora thing where all i had to was double click on the rpm and it did all that for me anyways
[05:06] <auk> Zuiden: apt takes them off a server, not your hard dirve
[05:06] <auk> but you can configure it to take them off your hard dirve...
[05:07] <Zuiden> how does one go about that?
[05:07] <auk> http://puggy.symonds.net/~rajesh/localdeb.html
[05:07] <auk> baaaaad colors and fonts on that page, though
[05:07] <auk> =(
[05:07] <Zuiden> i will just highlight it
[05:07] <Zuiden> haha
[05:08] <auk> hehe
[05:08] <auk> try it with lynx
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> Zuiden: apt downloads packages
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> if you want something like rpm, use dpkg
[05:08] <regeya> indeed.
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> Apt gets things from the sources listed in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <Zuiden> well i pretty new to linux so i can learn either way
[05:09] <regeya> I make anti-RH zealots mad by telling them that dpkg is less powerful than apt-rpm.
[05:09] <tiglionabbit> regeya: why not say yum?  And apt-get is good
[05:09] <auk> Zuiden: what package do you want?
[05:09] <Zuiden> fedora core was nice but i couldn't get my wusb11 ver 2.6 to work on it
[05:09] <Zuiden> build-essential
[05:10] <regeya> tiglionabbit, for this argument to work, you have to compare dpkg to apt-rpm. ;-)
[05:10] <regeya> "apt is soooo much more powerful than rpm" <- die
[05:10] <tiglionabbit> that's just being silly
[05:10] <nalioth> i used apt-rpm and RPMs still sucked
[05:10] <Zuiden> i need to get build-essential and the headers for the kernel
[05:10] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about SELinux in ubuntu?
[05:11] <tiglionabbit> Zuiden: say sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:11] <regeya> nalioth: there are reasons for that, and it's mainly 'coz people suck :-)
[05:11] <auk> yee
[05:11] <auk> yes
[05:11] <regeya> meaning package maintainers
[05:11] <nalioth> regeya: i'm sure
[05:11] <Zuiden> except i have no internet access on my OS
[05:11] <Zuiden> haha
[05:11] <freddy_> im looking forward on ubuntu cause im tired of rpm :D wich side should i get?
[05:11] <auk> what?!!????
[05:11] <tiglionabbit> Zuiden: OH NO!  Debian is crippled without internet
[05:11] <Zuiden> i need to download build essential so i can install the drivers
[05:11] <Zuiden> no way!
[05:11] <Zuiden> i couldn't of guessed
[05:11] <Zuiden> haha
[05:11] <tiglionabbit> Zuiden: can you dial in to another machine?
[05:11] <orlando> in synaptic, whats the difference between 'mark for removal' and 'mark for complete removal'
[05:12] <Zuiden> no
[05:12] <auk> you are on here.
[05:12] <FlannelKing> configuation files
[05:12] <regeya> freddy_: ?
[05:12] <nalioth> orlando: configurartion files
[05:12] <auk> Zuiden: what comp are you on now?
[05:12] <Zuiden> i am using a WUSB11 ver 2.6 with an atmel chipset
[05:12] <Zuiden> same one
[05:12] <gm78> freddy_: r u thinking kubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:12] <tiglionabbit> orlando: generally you want to pick complete removal if you don't plan on installing the program again
[05:12] <orlando> oh ok
[05:12] <freddy_> no lol, rpm lovers and apt lovers
[05:13] <Zuiden> except unless i am running mandrake 10 i am not getting anywhere without having to install the drivers
[05:13] <FlannelKing> no one knows anything about security permissions?
[05:13] <freddy_> i hate rpm, i love urpmi tho
[05:13] <auk> but how are you talking on here w/o internet?
[05:13] <Zuiden> errrr
[05:13] <|QuaD-> if i dist upgrade from sarge -> hoary, how stable is that?
[05:13] <Zuiden> i am on my windows partition right now
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> FlannelKing: what type of permissions?  You mean unix file permissions?
[05:13] <auk> oh.
[05:14] <tiglionabbit> |QuaD-: I wouldn't imagine it would be very stable..
[05:14] <|QuaD-> tiglionabbit: i heard it was, wasn't sure thoug
[05:14] <tiglionabbit> but I'm not completely sure
[05:14] <auk> but you cannot get internet on ubuntu??
[05:14] <FlannelKing> No, I mean security context permissions
[05:14] <Zuiden> i cannot pick up my USB Network Access Point
[05:14] <Zuiden> so i need to install the drivers
[05:15] <Zuiden> does the 5.04 have support for atmel chipsets?
[05:15] <FlannelKing> tiglionabbit, no, I mean security context stuff, as in SELinux, at least I think I do.
[05:15] <tiglionabbit> I don't know what SELinux is...
[05:15] <rronkivx> i love ubuntu
[05:15] <FlannelKing> Its apparently a library, and its in ubuntu, but no one seems to know anything about it
[05:16] <Zuiden> man i just read about it
[05:16] <FlannelKing> libselinux1 is the package
[05:16] <Zuiden> its in FC4
[05:16] <auk> Zuiden: hmm then try downloadign the package on windows, transfering it to the linux partition, and setting up apt to do local fielsliek on thatlink i gave3 you
[05:16] <dabaR_> I hate it.
[05:16] <auk> ?
[05:16] <Zuiden> thats what i am planning to do
[05:16] <auk> ok
[05:16] <tiglionabbit> auk: you could tell him to use dpkg for that
[05:16] <auk> oh, yeah
[05:16] <auk> thendo that
[05:16] <dabaR_> auk no, just get the packages, and dpkg -i package them
[05:16] <Zuiden> dpkg?
[05:16] <auk> dabaR_: what?
[05:17] <dabaR_> he should do that.
[05:17] <auk> man dpkg
[05:17] <tiglionabbit> Zuiden: dpkg is debians version of rpm.  man dpkg and read about it
[05:17] <dabaR_> Zuiden just get the files from the archives, and dpkg -i package.deb
[05:17] <bddebian> pfft, dpkg / apt* r0x rpm :-)
[05:17] <Zuiden> oh good deal
[05:17] <Zuiden> saves me a bunch of time
[05:17] <dabaR_> read the man if you really feel like it...
[05:18] <Zuiden> haha
[05:18] <Zuiden> i bet its a great read
[05:18] <dabaR_> lol
[05:18] <odie5533> Anyone here know how to enable C++ highlighting in VIM?
[05:18] <dabaR_> I am installing Ubuntu now, you think it will play nice with my windows partition?
[05:18] <crimsun> odie5533: :syn on
[05:19] <auk> yes
[05:19] <auk> dabaR_: it will play very nicely, but not the other wa yaround.
[05:19] <dabaR_> yeah, hey, it did not before, we'll see.
[05:19] <odie5533> crimsun: thankyou
[05:20] <auk> mine gave me a default entry in grub and set it up to the master boo trecord and everything automated.
[05:20] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: what do you want to know about selinux & ubuntu?
[05:20] <kloster> were can i download the new kernel for ubuntu
[05:20] <dabaR_> I am hoping actually that GRUB will pick up Debian on the other hard drive, and windows, and the Ubuntu, off course.
[05:21] <dabaR_> "the new kernel for ubuntu"
[05:21] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: I want to know what the equivalent command to chcon is.  Well, ultimately I want to know how to make it stop being a problem for apache/svn
[05:21] <Zuiden> automatically?
[05:21] <kloster> <IP_ADDRESS> for ubuntu
[05:22] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: SELinux isn't enabled in ubuntu
[05:22] <FlannelKing> ajmitch, Ive set up everything else (apache/svn) correctly, except I keep getting permission errors for my svn repo
[05:22] <ajmitch> unless you've set it up yourself
[05:22] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: there's a libselinux1 package, enabled by default
[05:22] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: at least, it's enabled, but I didnt do it.
[05:23] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: that's a library package, and selinux is not enabled in the kernel, nor is the policy loaded
[05:23] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: does that enable it? or is that just stuff incase something needs it?
[05:23] <Zuiden> kloster i think the kernel image is in synaptic
[05:23] <ajmitch> that's just code for userspace apps for setting/checking contexts, etc
[05:23] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: alright, thanks, Ive been trying to figure out the deal with that for ... well, 12 hours now.  And no one could tell me
[05:23] <bddebian> ajmitch: Oh suuure, won't help me eh?? :-)
[05:23] <FlannelKing> yeah, I wasnt sure if it was or not
[05:23] <FlannelKing> but, I still have the problem of permissions then
[05:23] <kloster> i dont think so for that kernel version?
[05:23] <kloster> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:24] <Zuiden> they have linux-source-2.6.12
[05:24] <Zuiden> i am looking at it right now on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:24] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: yes, is it a fsfs repository?
[05:24] <Zuiden> are you running breezy?
[05:24] <FlannelKing> ajmitch and there was absolutely no documentation about it
[05:24] <FlannelKing> ajmitch yeah, fsfs, owned by www-data
[05:25] <kloster> im not running breezy
[05:25] <FlannelKing> ajmitch its a new repo, never had anything added to it
[05:25] <ajmitch> there usually isn't documentation on libraries
[05:25] <ajmitch> and what's the svn problem?
[05:25] <cdc> do you guys customize Ubuntu?
[05:26] <FlannelKing> bottom of this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15809
[05:26] <cdc> or just use it as u get it?
[05:26] <fidget> hurray! I fixed my fstab problem much thanks to everyone who helped!!
[05:26] <FlannelKing> well, its changed a little since then, but it's all right, at least, as far as the guys over at #svn can tell
[05:26] <robitaille> cdc: customize?  as in changing the look of your screen?  yes.  colors, themes, my panels, are all different from a default one.
[05:26] <tiglionabbit> cdc: synaptic makes it easy to install and remove programs, and if you go to gnome-look.org you can find some themes and such
[05:27] <Zuiden> blah there is no one on the breezy torrent
[05:27] <transgress> Zuiden: you don't wanna run breezy
[05:27] <oofnik> does anyone feel like helping out a new ubuntu user with sound?
[05:27] <transgress> Zuiden: /topic
[05:27] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: what does ls -lad /var/devel/svn show?
[05:28] <kloster> can i use breezy packages? my pc dont collapse?
[05:28] <FlannelKing> drwxr-xr-x  7 www-data www-data 4096 2005-06-22 01:17 /var/devel/svn
[05:28] <Zuiden> whats wrong with using breezy?
[05:28] <ajmitch> and /var/devel/svn/format
[05:28] <auk> i would be very impressed if you got your pc to collapse :D
[05:28] <robitaille> Zuiden:  it's very unstable, and break quite often
[05:28] <ajmitch> Zuiden: it's in development, so you get to keep the pieces when it breaks
[05:28] <FlannelKing> -r--r--r--  1 www-data www-data 2 2005-06-22 01:17 /var/devel/svn/format
[05:28] <|QuaD-> anyone using hoary's hula package?
[05:29] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: chmod ug+w /var/devel/svn/format
[05:29] <Zuiden> ah so breezy is the bleeding edge's bleeding edge?
[05:29] <orlando> synaptic says i have linux-image-386 installed... shouldnt it be 686? i have a pentium 3
[05:29] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: I'm only guessing based on the svn+ssh repository I have here
[05:29] <Zuiden> alpha tsting and so forth
[05:29] <ajmitch> Zuiden: more or less
[05:29] <dabaR_> cdc I just install ubuntu, and whatevedr comes with it I use that, and ignore the thousands of packages in the repositories...
[05:29] <|QuaD-> orlando: how much ram you have
[05:29] <robitaille> Zuiden:  one some days, it's not even the edge, it's off the table
[05:29] <orlando> 320mb RAM
[05:29] <FlannelKing> why would it create the repo with the other permissions then?
[05:29] <auk> |QuaD: in aobut thirty seconds
[05:29] <oofnik> if anyone has an audigy 2 sound card working under hoary please let me know... thanks everyone
[05:29] <|QuaD-> orlando: i would stick with the 386
[05:29] <Zuiden> haha
[05:29] <auk> |QuaD-: *
[05:29] <|QuaD-> auk: till you use hula?
[05:30] <auk> yep
[05:30] <orlando> oh ok
[05:30] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: I don't know, and my repository is not on an ubuntu or debian box :)
[05:30] <|QuaD-> auk: i wanna know how stable it is
[05:30] <bddebian> ajmitch: blasphemy
[05:30] <ajmitch> bddebian: oh, it's you..
[05:30] <ajmitch> :)
[05:30] <bddebian> :'-(
[05:31] <dabaR_> oofnik I know a person that has it working
[05:31] <Zuiden> whats hula?
[05:31] <dabaR_> not in breezy, tho...
[05:31] <auk> hmm what is the binary called?
[05:31] <|QuaD-> Zuiden: yeah
[05:31] <flankk> i am using the xfce mail checker with a pop server, works fine.. but the icon stays red after my mail has been checked. is there a way around this?
[05:31] <Zuiden> haha
[05:31] <dabaR_> disable the on board in bios.
[05:32] <oofnik> dabaR_ what type of audigy do you have?
[05:32] <rcec52> Anyone experience kubuntu network setting disruptions?
[05:32] <Zunderholz> I'm having trouble finding the w32codec package
[05:32] <auk> |QuaD-: where id the binary?
[05:32] <|QuaD-> auk: when you get it up and running can you pm the results, how easy it was, etc
[05:32] <|QuaD-> auk: no idea... don't have it up
[05:32] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: nope, didnt help.
[05:32] <tiglionabbit> Zunderholz: add the universe and multiverse repositories
[05:32] <dabaR_> oofnik I dont.
[05:33] <dabaR_> oofnik disable the on board in bios, look at forums(search for esd alsa sound linux) and ask crimsun
[05:33] <rcec52> Everyone here running Ubuntu?
[05:33] <dabaR_> if you do all those, it will work.
[05:33] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: keep checking up the tree, /var/devel, /var, to make sure that www-data has at least read & execute permissions on the dirs
[05:33] <cdc> i needto compile packages or rather compile the kernel and stuff like that. For doing all these is Ubuntu the right distro?
[05:33] <oofnik> dabaR_ onboard is off, it worked well in windows, as well as knoppix live and FC4
[05:33] <hondje> for that stuff, all distros are the same
[05:34] <ajmitch> cdc: why do you need to compile the kernel?
[05:34] <dabaR_> oofnik ok, go one with my procedure...
[05:34] <dabaR_> go on, rather.
[05:34] <psirix> can someone help me with a problem im having with ubuntu? please pm me
[05:35] <oofnik> hah it's what i've been doing for the last six hours.. i've changed so many settings
[05:35] <cdc> ajmitch, i need to get the IPSec code and then i need to compile the kernel
[05:35] <oofnik> recompiled and reinstalled alsa as well and that didn't help..
[05:35] <hondje> IPSec and a desktop distro?
[05:35] <Zuiden> does Hoary ship with 2.6.10 as default?
[05:35] <oofnik> psirix what kind of problem are you having
[05:35] <ajmitch> Zuiden: yes..
[05:35] <ajmitch> hondje: why not?
[05:35] <psirix> error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:36] <ajmitch> ipsec has its uses, although I'd think that ipsec is already enabled in the kernel for those that want to use it
[05:36] <psirix> thats what i get when i try to install applications
[05:36] <oofnik> psirix, you need to install gcc
[05:36] <cdc> hondje, IPSec and a desktop distro ? i ve not done kernel compilation and stuff like that so i need to learn all those
[05:36] <ajmitch> psirix: so.. apt-get install build-essential, or get that package in synaptic
[05:36] <psirix> it doesnt come with the install of ubuntu?
[05:36] <oofnik> try: sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:36] <oofnik> as well as what ajmitch said
[05:36] <_cat> what is unbutu ?
[05:36] <transgress> oofnik: that's wrong.  he just needs build-essential
[05:36] <cdc> hondje, i need to learn the compilation process loading of modules and all those which distro would be apt to learn ?
[05:36] <dabaR_> oofnik I would search the forums for what I had said earlier, there is an article about sound in linux, that is what you could try following, and then also I know for a fact that crimsun can fix audigy2...I think I know for a fact, anyhow.
[05:36] <bob233> help please, my ubuntu keep crashing for no reason, completely freezes, dmesg shows nothing unusual, my ubuntu is posessed! help
[05:37] <hondje> Sure, lots of uses, but also silly....like running solarix x86 on a laptop, or getting hardware acceleration for your gfx card working with gentoo hardened
[05:37] <auk> |QuaD-: i am not going to install it...
[05:37] <hondje> cdc: they're all the same
[05:37] <hondje> one kernel is the same as another
[05:37] <_cat> can i add unbutu source to debian source.list ?
[05:37] <psirix> thanks, i'll give that a shot
[05:37] <tiglionabbit> cdc: gentoo?
[05:37] <Zunderholz> I added the universe and multiverse repositories, and I still don't see w32codecs
[05:37] <oofnik> thanks dabaR_, i'll see if he's around
[05:37] <auk> it removed a package that it needs to function...
[05:37] <auk> :postfix"
[05:37] <tiglionabbit> _cat: not recommended..
[05:37] <psirix> so now does sudoa pt-get automatically download and configure certain applications?
[05:37] <|QuaD-> auk: ok
[05:37] <tiglionabbit> Zunderholz: have you updated/reloaded ?
[05:38] <auk> looks like a headache in waiting
[05:38] <auk> sorry
[05:38] <zenlunatic> psirix: man it
[05:38] <tiglionabbit> psirix: yep
[05:38] <|QuaD-> auk: heh
[05:38] <|QuaD-> np
[05:38] <psirix> cool
[05:38] <cdc> tiglionabbit, u use gentoo?
[05:38] <zenlunatic> psirix: oh nm
[05:38] <tiglionabbit> cdc: no, I use ubuntu
[05:38] <psirix> hmm, now im getting another error, im trying to install fluxbox
[05:38] <auk> if oyu want a reiview, though...checkout this link: http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20050320.ars
[05:38] <rcec52> Anyone go Gnome Apt Software manager install? Question. . .it asks for superuser 'root' password. ..what do you enter?
[05:38] <psirix> it says error: c++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> rcec52:
[05:39] <Zuiden> is there any reason for updating to 2.6.12?
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> !root
[05:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:39] <zenlunatic> rcec52: root password
[05:39] <hondje> psirix: why not just apt-get install fluxbox?
[05:39] <auk> rcec52: if you are the only user, your passwd
[05:39] <bob233> can someone help please, my ubuntu keeps crashing, i thikn its X related, something about ati cards not liking 3d acceleratgion or something
[05:39] <psirix> idk im trying to learn
[05:39] <psirix> lol
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> zenlunatic: no, that's wrong, he uses user password
[05:39] <rcec52> Thanks
[05:39] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: nope, that still didnt help, everything has rwx permissions for ug
[05:39] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 here know how to edit the wine config file??
[05:40] <auk> anyone know howoto give bash colors?
[05:40] <zenlunatic> auk: man bash
[05:40] <auk> or, gnome-terminal instead?
[05:40] <zenlunatic> auk: google bash cusonmization
[05:40] <Zuiden> go to your monitor
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> auk: which terminal are you using?  xterm should do it
[05:40] <hondje> ~/.bashrc
[05:40] <rcec52> passwd donen't work as root password. . . I'm the only user on the system. . .
[05:40] <Zuiden> mess with the colour option ;)
[05:40] <auk> gnome-terminal
[05:41] <auk> i mean color-coding, not just all the text one color
[05:41] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 here know how to edit the wine config file??
[05:41] <dabaR_> there is a edit prefs color scheme for that...
[05:41] <dabaR_> something through the gui.
[05:41] <auk> like on a KNOPPIX boot
[05:41] <hondje> man dircolors, and edit your .bashrc
[05:41] <bob233> hey folks, this is my first time on #ubuntu, help a noob out please, just give me some pointers ill do the rest, comp frezes over and over
[05:41] <oofnik> Dj_AlTeK install winesetuptk
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> auk: edit-> current profile  should let you change the colors you're using.  All 16 of them
[05:41] <siorfin> so does anyone know how to get ipw2100 working in ubuntu, it refuses to work or even recognize my wireless router
[05:42] <siorfin> worked two days ago whne i was running fedora
[05:42] <Dj_AlTeK> oofnik: where can i get that? or does it come with wine?
[05:42] <hondje> siorfin: did you laod the module?
[05:42] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: and is www-data the owner of /var/devel?
[05:42] <rcec52> once again. . .how do I get this gnome apt software manager to allow me to sign into it properly? When I installed Ubuntu it didn't ask for a root password. . .
[05:42] <tiglionabbit> bob233: no idea, but I've heard that from a few people
[05:42] <oofnik> you can install it, it's a package, just do apt-get install winesetuptk
[05:42] <dabaR_> nice, it looks like my Ubuntu GRUB picked up all my OSs.
[05:42] <hondje> rcec52: just use your passwd
[05:42] <tiglionabbit> rcec52: why not use synaptic?  And it's your user password
[05:42] <Zuiden> bob233 i would try a reinstall
[05:42] <Zuiden> maybe try a different distro
[05:43] <FlannelKing> ajmitch no, just the svn repository /var/devel/svn
[05:43] <bob233> tiglionabbit: yea people with ati cards have this prob and i saw a wiki page showing how to fix it by disabling 2d and 3d acceleration but now i dunno how to find that page again :(
[05:43] <auk> rcec52: enter your passwoird
[05:43] <rcec52> I've got synaptic installed and running I thought I would want to see any software differences. ..
[05:43] <dabaR_> nice I booted into windows...
[05:43] <bob233> Zuiden: but i just got everything working and instaled on this one :(
[05:43] <psirix> is there a way to apt-get x window system libraries and headers?
[05:43] <DannoHung> Blargh, how do you recompile an application that you downloaded a package for?
[05:44] <rcec52> I still get a wrong password error with this gnome apt. . .
[05:45] <Dj_AlTeK> oofnik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/176 thats what i get when i try that
[05:45] <auk> can oyu get into synaptic?
[05:45] <DannoHung> Yesh, yesh I can
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> rcec52: when you installed it, did it have an ubuntu logo by it in synaptic?  It may not be meant for ubuntu.  You can create a root password by saying `sudo passwd`
[05:45] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: so chmod o+rx /var/devel, check if it helps
[05:45] <bob233> and why the hek should ubuntu have this gigantic bug with xorg, im gonna install debian
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> rcec52: though ubuntu does not recommend having the root account usable
[05:45] <regeya> gigantic bug in xorg, eh
[05:46] <Dj_AlTeK> oofnik you get it??
[05:46] <Amaranth> bob233: Are you using the 2.6.11 kernel in hoary?
[05:46] <FlannelKing> that didnt change anything... you mean the svn directory (the actual repo?)
[05:46] <bob233> 2.6.10
[05:46] <bob233> hoary
[05:46] <TokenBad> woo...new background for machine will look awsome when rendering is done
[05:46] <oofnik> ehh.. give me a sec Dj_AlTeK
[05:46] <FlannelKing> ajmitch that didnt change anything... you mean the svn directory (the actual repo?)
[05:46] <Amaranth> bob233: Ok, that's not it then.
[05:46] <Dj_AlTeK> k oofnik
[05:46] <rcec52> No there wasn't a ubuntu icon by it when I installed it with synaptic. . .so I guess it won't work. .
[05:46] <bob233> Amaranth: how to you update the kernel? how come i didnt get 2.6.11?
[05:47] <bob233> should i compile it?
[05:47] <Amaranth> bob233: You don't want 2.6.11.
[05:47] <oofnik> Amaranth what's wrong with 2.6.11?
[05:47] <bob233> Amaranth: linus got ahead of himself again?
[05:47] <Amaranth> bob233: The 2.6.11 in hoary is a prerelease version that pretty much just locks up your system as soon as GNOME starts.
[05:47] <Amaranth> no, the real 2.6.11 is good
[05:47] <Amaranth> the one in hoary is a prerelease version
[05:47] <oofnik> Dj_AlTeK accept the chat invite i sent you
[05:48] <oofnik> ah.. i see
[05:48] <bob233> ah, ok, so anyone knows about this problem with X crashing? i cant find a thing in log files
[05:48] <Dj_AlTeK> i cant dcc
[05:48] <crazyhorse> mh i never got a vanilla kernel running in ubuntu
[05:48] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: no, I meant /var/devel
[05:48] <Amaranth> bob233: anything in dmesg?
[05:48] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: it already was +rx for owner
[05:48] <bob233> nothing unusual,
[05:48] <crazyhorse> it ever freezes my sys just after grub is finished
[05:48] <oofnik> Dj_AlTeK how come?
[05:48] <Amaranth> or /var/log/?
[05:48] <Dj_AlTeK> oofnik: dunno
[05:48] <Amaranth> can't remember the exact name
[05:48] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: rwxrwxr-x ?
[05:48] <ajmitch> or similar?
[05:48] <FlannelKing> yep
[05:48] <FlannelKing> exactly that
[05:49] <ajmitch> ok
[05:49] <bob233> i read a post about it, the solution was to disable 3d and 2d acceleration, apparently ubuntu has this bug with some ati cards, if i find it again i will post the link so you guys wont think im making this up
[05:49] <rcec52> Will there be alot to expect with the next installment of 'Ubuntu?' I know the Kubuntu will have alot of software package updates I suspect. . .
[05:49] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: got it working
[05:49] <dabaR_> Ill still think you just wrote it up and hacked the server...
[05:49] <oofnik> Dj_AlTeK i think you need to enable universe and multiverse sources, let me find you a link
[05:49] <Zunderholz> tiglionabbit:   I've added all the repositories, done an apt-get update and I still can't get w32codecs.   I tried searching in Synaptic, but it finds nothing
[05:49] <hondje> omg haxor!!!
[05:49] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: guys over at svn told me to +rwx the repo
[05:50] <oofnik> Dj go here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:50] <Dj_AlTeK> thanx oofnik
[05:50] <bob233> Amaranth: you knwo what im gonna go for a fresh install, do you thnk its too much pain to go for debian instead of ubuntu? i had to reinstall ubuntu like 10 times so far
[05:50] <oofnik> no problem, let me know if you get it to work
[05:50] <Dj_AlTeK> will do
[05:50] <Amaranth> bob233: Well, sarge has GNOME 2.8
[05:51] <Amaranth> bob233: And debian unstable is about to break as bad as breezy has been broken
[05:51] <bddebian> Zunderholz: I haven't seen the whole conversation but you could try "sudo apt-cache dump |grep codec" to make sure you have the right package name
[05:51] <rcec52> I installed Debian and couldn't get the Wifi installation to work with my system. . .
[05:51] <bob233> Amaranth: is there any good kde based distros? i bought a b ook on kde and kubuntu sucked, next time i wanna go for some distro based on kde
[05:51] <FlannelKing> alright, back to the lot of you, I have apache running, and mysql, but myapache log gets.... a lot of errors: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed - duplicate name - mysql_num_fields in Unknown on line 0
[05:51] <hondje> Amaranth: sid is about to be sid again?
[05:51] <Amaranth> hondje: aye, sid is going to break your toys
[05:51] <hondje> Amaranth: thanks for the warning :D
[05:52] <Amaranth> hondje: i know of at least a gcc4 transition and python 2.4 transition
[05:52] <FlannelKing> about... 70 of them, each time apache starts, anyone know how to fix it?
[05:52] <TokenBad> hows going hondje?
[05:52] <TokenBad> you good?
[05:52] <Amaranth> there are probably more things that are going to break your toys horribly
[05:52] <hondje> Amaranth: oh, that'll be ugly...time to run backups then :)
[05:52] <hondje> TokenBad: Doing good, bit tired, you?
[05:52] <TokenBad> pretty good..chilling and waiting on this new render to finish
[05:53] <Zuiden> THIS TORRENT IS SO SLOW
[05:53] <dabaR_> this is not a torrent, its IRC...
[05:53] <Zuiden> i have met lab rats with one leg that can go fast than this
[05:53] <oofnik> haha
[05:53] <Zuiden> you are right
[05:53] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: ok, good
[05:53] <Zuiden> no wonder nothing is downloading
[05:53] <Toba> how would I install from a .deb file?
[05:54] <oofnik> um.. synaptic?
[05:54] <Zuiden> dpkg right?
[05:54] <dabaR_> dpkg -i synaptic.deb
[05:54] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: well, that and I tried https, but I dont know what in my conf file made it have to be ssl, do you?
[05:54] <Toba> ty
[05:54] <dabaR_> toba manitoba?
[05:54] <Zuiden> whats does dpkg do?
[05:54] <hondje> TokenBad: render of what?
[05:54] <dabaR_> man dpkg
[05:54] <dabaR_> haha
[05:54] <psirix> what's the difference between using sudo apt-get and just apt-get?
[05:54] <ajmitch> FlannelKing: well you'd need to setup an ssl certificate
[05:54] <oofnik> when all else fails haha
[05:54] <oofnik> sudo makes you do it as root
[05:55] <crazyhorse> psirix, sudo apt-get makes apt-get run with root privileges
[05:55] <dabaR_> apt-get without sudo(unless you are root) does not work,...
[05:55] <psirix> ah
[05:55] <psirix> thanks
[05:55] <oofnik> yup
[05:55] <FlannelKing> I did that, and that all works, but what in my config makes it so I can only access it over https? rather than normal http?
[05:55] <dabaR_> thats a big difference...
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> psirix: apt-get has to run with root privileges.  sudo adds root to anything
[05:55] <oofnik> oh, regarding that.. anybody know how to disable root password?
[05:55] <psirix> gotcha
[05:55] <dabaR_> !root
[05:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:55] <oofnik> i did sudo passwd and now i want to undo that..
[05:55] <dabaR_> it shows it there.
[05:55] <FlannelKing> ajmitch: I did that, and that all works, but what in my config makes it so I can only access it over https? rather than normal http?
[05:55] <psirix> is there anyway to get the x window system libraries and headers using apt-get?
[05:55] <psirix> i need those to instlal fluxbox
[05:55] <Zuiden> what does sudo stand for?
[05:56] <dabaR_> on top of a server install?
[05:56] <hondje> psirix: apt-get install fluxbox
[05:56] <oofnik> super user DO
[05:56] <dabaR_> strangely unusual
[05:56] <dabaR_> difference octal
[05:56] <oofnik> or something to that effect
[05:56] <Zuiden> gotcha
[05:56] <psirix> it says couldn't find package flubxox
[05:56] <psirix> fluxbox*
[05:56] <crazyhorse> FlannelKing, i suggest you configure a redirection from http zu https.
[05:56] <hondje> psirix: add the universe repositories
[05:56] <dabaR_> sudo aptitude search fluxbox
[05:56] <oofnik> dabaR_ !root doesn't do anything?
[05:57] <TokenBad> hondje, new background for my computer
[05:57] <hondje> TokenBad: ah
[05:57] <Toba> hrm
[05:57] <FlannelKing> yeah, I will, but I was just wondering why its required to be https.
[05:57] <TokenBad> I do my own graphics
[05:57] <Toba> just installed skype from the .dep file
[05:57] <Toba> using -i
[05:57] <Toba> and it won't run ;(
[05:57] <psirix> hondje: how would i go about doing that?
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> oofnik: man passwd, look for the part where it tells you how to set it to a password that cannot be entered
[05:57] <dabaR_> oofnik, !root makes ubotu give you the URL of the page where your question is answered.
[05:57] <dabaR_> like so:
[05:57] <dabaR_> !root
[05:57] <ubotu> hmm... root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:58] <oofnik> thanks guys
[05:58] <hondje> psirix: in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:58] <psirix> then what? i kinda need help im a newb
[05:59] <dabaR_> psirix go sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[05:59] <psirix> just uncomment the file?
[05:59] <dabaR_> and follow the instructions in the file.
[05:59] <psirix> yeah i used nano
[05:59] <dabaR_> yes, ,remove the # from the universe line.
[05:59] <psirix> i kinda know how to do stuff
[05:59] <psirix> but not really
[05:59] <hondje> Yes, where it says 'uncomment the following two lines'
[05:59] <tiglionabbit> psirix: uncomment the lines that have one hash
[05:59] <psirix> lol
[05:59] <psirix> thanks
[05:59] <IcemanV9> fluxbox is in the universe packages
[06:00] <dabaR_> hey, thanks,m IcemanV9 we were all wondering where they were;)
[06:01] <FlannelKing> Im running apache2/php/mysql and each time I restart apache, I get about 70 errors like this: PHP Warning:  Function registration failed - duplicate name - mysql_num_fields in Unknown on line 0.  Anyone know what that could be?
[06:01] <dabaR_> I hate the big installation at first boot of ubuntu
[06:01] <IcemanV9> fluxbox version is 0.9.11-1 if you want to know
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> dabaR_: how else would you want it?
[06:01] <dabaR_> and then after that, I need to upgrade to hoary...I still do that...
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> why don't you start with hoary?
[06:01] <dabaR_> I am impatient(just installed Sarge, XP, and now Ubuntu
[06:01] <dabaR_> cant wait to start using it...
[06:02] <dabaR_> still have only the warty cd, prolly time to get the other one...
[06:02] <dabaR_> this works, thats the thing:)
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> download!
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[06:02] <dabaR_> I will, I have partial files, I think somewhere...
[06:03] <Dj_AlTeK> hey offnik i downloaded winesetuptk
[06:03] <DannoHung> Hmmm... how the hell do I recompile Apache2 since I installed it from a package?
[06:03] <Dj_AlTeK> now what do i do?
[06:03] <e-head> boys ... my blogs alive !!!
[06:03] <dabaR_> wow
[06:03] <e-head> it's alive !!! she breathes laddies !!!
[06:03] <dabaR_> where? pls tell us so we can read it...
[06:04] <e-head> she's got legs sailor !!!
[06:04] <dabaR_> woohooo...
[06:04] <psirix> sweet it works :)
[06:04] <Dj_AlTeK> oofnik: i downloaded winesetuptk now what do i do?
[06:04] <e-head> sorry, I'm drunk again.
[06:04] <psirix> sorry for bugging the s*** out of you guys =/
[06:04] <e-head> what's with me getting drunk and crashing this party ?
[06:04] <oofnik> Dj_AlTeK did it install?
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> hey, I've still got this same problem, nobody's been able to answer it for me yet.  In firefox, some text doesn't show up.  I can't see the words in any of the dashed-border areas on the ubuntu wiki
[06:04] <dabaR_> thats fine, we know where you live...
[06:04] <e-head> dabaR_: http://dotsandloops.net
[06:04] <oofnik> if it worked correctly then just type in winesetuptk in a shell
[06:05] <e-head> ohh shit ... i'm in the wrong channel ....
[06:05] <dabaR_> really??
[06:05] <dabaR_> I wouldve never guessed
[06:05] <e-head> no wonder i didn't recognize you kiddies ... i thought i was in #wordpress.
[06:05] <e-head> :)
[06:05] <e-head> you can still read my blog though, if your bored.
[06:06] <dabaR_> oh, even though you were in the werong channel the UIRL still works?
[06:06] <ale_> Hi, channel, I'm having a bit of trouble with grub... actully grub is acting a bit wierd today :)
[06:06] <dabaR_> thats easy to fix, hit the any key...
[06:06] <dabaR_> hehe, sorry, thats it...
[06:07] <Zuiden> oo the torrent picked up some speed
[06:07] <yzero> Hello
[06:07] <yzero> I have a problem installing Ubuntu 5.04 on my qosmio f10 laptop..
[06:07] <yzero> When it reboots it said Grub HD error
[06:07] <oofnik> is there any way to make synaptic stop asking me for a password every single time i open it?
[06:07] <Dj_AlTeK> oofnik: how do i install it?
[06:07] <yzero> So i had to fdisk /mbr and reset the active partition =[
[06:07] <Dj_AlTeK> what command do i use?
[06:08] <dabaR_> yes, open it every 15 seconds
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> oofnik: it's good the way it is.  You can modify the command though
[06:08] <oofnik> well Dj if you used apt-get install winesetuptk, it was installed automatically
[06:08] <KillerSmurf> hello all
[06:08] <FlannelKing> Alright, I have mysql extension installed twice in PHP (in apache), where would I find the configs to fix that?
[06:08] <ale_> I've got a sata and and ata drive and I've installed grub in the mbr of the sata drive, that is setup(hd1)...  and my root partion is in /dev/sda2 root(hd1,1)... wierd thing is it won't boot unless I set root(hd0,1). I've used grub-install and everything :)
[06:08] <oofnik> tig it's just aggrevating, how can i modify the command?
[06:09] <yzero> I wish i could get ubuntu installed period.
[06:09] <tiglionabbit> oofnik: actually no, you can't...    get used to using your password, it's a lot more secure this way.  If someone sits down at your computer, do you want them installing stuff?
[06:09] <KillerSmurf> I finally have my wacom pad up and going well.  I'm not sure how or what I did but it's going now
[06:09] <tiglionabbit> KillerSmurf: yay
[06:09] <ale_> yzero, is there an error number?
[06:09] <oofnik> haha, i know tig, but i really am the only one who uses my computer, people get scared of the linux :-P
[06:09] <yzero> ale_ No. "Grub HD error"
[06:09] <dabaR_> I cant believe I got all three installed, and they all boot nice from GRUB...
[06:09] <yzero> =[
[06:10] <oofnik> yzero, what kind of system are you installing on?
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> KillerSmurf: finished setting up xorg, and got pressure sensitivity in gimp?
[06:10] <dabaR_> sudo remembers your passsword for 15 sex
[06:10] <dabaR_> haha
[06:10] <IcemanV9> FlannelKing: i'm no expert at this, but i believe you need to edit apache2.conf file
[06:10] <yzero> oofnik, Toshiba qosmio F10 laptop
[06:10] <DannoHung> Does anyone know how to recompile Apache2 if you installed it using apt-get?  I'm about pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to enable the different modules.
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> DannoHung: you cannot compile a deb.  Get the source
[06:11] <dabaR_> go into synaptic and reinstall it
[06:11] <oofnik> yzero thats a damn nice laptop.. haha i wish you luck
[06:11] <DannoHung> Just recompile it over the package?
[06:11] <Zuiden> anyone here smoke a pipe?
[06:11] <yzero> oofnik, Everything is damn nice except the ubuntu install hehe
[06:11] <yzero> but thx
[06:11] <dabaR_> or man dpkg find how to dpkg --reconfigure apache2
[06:12] <yzero> I guess I'll have to install.. alt-f2 and check the grub config
[06:12] <tiglionabbit> it's dpkg-reconfigure
[06:12] <yzero> hope I get it right the first time
[06:12] <oofnik> hah, yeah, well it could be worse.. *cough* gentoo
[06:12] <dabaR_> ok, then that should work, I think...
[06:12] <bddebian> DannoHung: Aren't the modules available as packages?
[06:12] <yzero> I don't want it compiling for 24 hours lol.. i need it
[06:12] <Dj_AlTeK> hey how do i kill wine??
[06:13] <TokenBad> hondje, you seen any of my art stuff?
[06:13] <dabaR_> killall wine
[06:13] <Dj_AlTeK> thanx dabar
[06:13] <DannoHung> Well, some of them.
[06:13] <yzero> I'd like to tell bob2 about it so maybe they can fix it in hoary
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> TokenBad: art stuff?
[06:13] <FlannelKing> IcemanV9 no, its php.ini in /etc/php4/apache2, apparently the extension is included twice for some reason.  Thanks though.
[06:14] <TokenBad> yeah mostly backgrounds
[06:14] <oofnik> hey is there anyway to make gnome use file browser as default when i open folders and things?
[06:14] <zyth> ick toshiba
[06:14] <zyth> :P
[06:14] <DannoHung> I'm following the "Howto setup Apache with FastCGI and Ruby bindings in Rails" guide and I don't think cgimak is anything standard.
[06:14] <dabaR_> the dabar strikes again
[06:14] <oofnik> as opposed to the plain nautilus folder view thing
[06:14] <KillerSmurf> tiglionabbit Thanks again for focusing me on chptr 4
[06:14] <dabaR_> oofnik yes, in the gui menus, like edit>props always open in a browser window
[06:14] <IcemanV9> FlannelKing: at least, you knew where :)
[06:15] <TokenBad> tiglionabbit, I post on deviantart
[06:15] <FlannelKing> IcemanV9 only because I did a bit of searching
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> KillerSmurf: you're welcom.  did you say you'd got the gimp working with it?
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> s/welcom/welcome
[06:15] <oofnik> thank you dabaR_ i don't know how i missed that.. hah
[06:15] <dabaR_> the dabar strikes again...
[06:16] <oofnik> +1 for you haha
[06:16] <KillerSmurf> tiglionabbit yes and wacomcpl is installed and works for adjusting the sensitivity
[06:17] <oofnik> so yeah.. anybody have experience with enabling sound in hoary? i've spent 6hrs+ now and could use a little help if anyone's out there
[06:17] <dabaR_> I just realized that it should really be hoarty and breezty...
[06:17] <dabaR_> like warty.
[06:17] <KillerSmurf> does anyone know if there is and EasyGPS equiv for *nix?
[06:17] <yzero> someone say my nick.. wanna check highlighting
[06:17] <yzero> pls
[06:17] <dabaR_> yzero
[06:17] <bddebian> yzero:
[06:17] <yzero> thx =]
[06:17] <dabaR_> the dabar strikes again...
[06:18] <yzero> Anyone know a good place to get 1280x800 wallpapers?
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> oofnik: generally sound works by default.  It depends what program you're trying to get sound from.  There's a blurb in restricted about it
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[06:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:18] <_root_> Hi all :)
[06:18] <ale_> yzero: www.debiantart.com
[06:18] <yzero> deviant art doesn't have much
[06:18] <yzero> for that size
[06:18] <yzero> and they have a few good 1900x1200 which work
[06:18] <sproingie> tried google image search?
[06:19] <dabaR_> gnome-look.org art.gnome.org
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> lol, debiantart
[06:19] <yzero> ok
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> because you know it's all about debian
[06:19] <ale_> lol
[06:19] <yzero> www.wallpapersmania.com looks ok.
[06:20] <oofnik> hmm.. i'm trying that tig, thanks
[06:20] <tito_> Does anyone know if it's possible to download a large update on another PC - burn it to a cd, then bring it home and update via cd?
[06:20] <dabaR_> We'll see, if it is all about Debian, Ubuntu has a nice default desktop conf...for me...
[06:20] <tito_> I've got a slow net connection
[06:20] <dabaR_> tito, is the another pc ubuntu?
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> dabaR_: Ubuntu comes from Debian
[06:20] <tito_> no, windows  :(
[06:20] <dabaR_> really?
[06:20] <yzero> i may just try debian next.
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> dabaR_: well it's based on Debian
[06:21] <dabaR_> ok, well, I would do this...
[06:21] <oofnik> in case there's a specific problem here, this is what alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> Debian uses much older packages though, and is very thoroughly tested.  It works well for webservers
[06:21] <yzero> or I could do freebsd but their laptop hardware support blows ass.
[06:22] <dabaR_> tito_ sudo apt-get install -d whatever you are trying to get(not sure how to do it with dist-upgrade, maybe also -d) and then copy down the package names, download them from the web on the other comp, then get them to your comp(they are .deb) then after that dpkg -i package.deb
[06:22] <johnnybezak> whats a good cli music jukebox guys?
[06:22] <yzero> So who do I inform of my laptop install problem so they can fix it in hoary?
[06:22] <dabaR_> tiglionabbit really, is that how it works?
[06:22] <tito_> ah, great, thanks dabaR_  !!!
[06:22] <tito_> I'll try that
[06:23] <dabaR_> welcome, not sure if you are doing dist-upgrade, it prolly still lists the packages, and when it asks you y/N say N
[06:23] <johnnybezak> yzero: file a bug report
[06:23] <dabaR_> yzero in breezy.
[06:23] <tiglionabbit> dabaR_: Ubuntu was created to be a much more up to date version of debian, with desktop software that is easier for casual users to use, thus 'linux for human beings'
[06:23] <tito_> great, okay
[06:23] <yzero> oops ya i mean breezy :P
[06:23] <dabaR_> tiglionabbit nice...
[06:24] <yzero> blah i'll just use xp til breezy is official
[06:24] <dabaR_> so list the packages, write them down, get them from packages.ubuntu.com/org? and then get them back to this comp, and dpkg -i package.deb
[06:24] <bddebian> Blasphemy
[06:24] <ale_> What is the difference between apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:24] <dabaR_> update updates repos.
[06:24] <ale_> yup...
[06:24] <dabaR_> gets the package list from the repos enabled in sources.list
[06:25] <tito_> dabaR_ - how do I know which repo to go to on the web - there's like 5+ in my config file?
[06:25] <dabaR_> dist-upgrade upgraddes all packages available to upgrade.
[06:25] <tito_> sources.list, sorry
[06:25] <tiglionabbit> ale_: upgrade upgrades packages but doesn't install new ones, dist-upgrade grabs new dependencies if newer versions require different things
[06:25] <bddebian> ale_: update gets the list of packages.  upgrade, upgrades installed packages, dist-upgrade will upgrade all packages to the level set in sources.list
[06:25] <oofnik> whats the command to restart my sound server?
[06:25] <tiglionabbit> apt-get upgrade will sometimes say "X packages were held back" because they required things you do not have installed
[06:25] <ale_> thanx guys.
[06:25] <SQFreak> oofnik: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[06:25] <bphan> I've been having problems setting XP as my main bootloader menu. I tried dd /dev/hda3 fo ...  and all that to create an image but then it doesn't work
[06:25] <tiglionabbit> dist-upgrade gets those packages
[06:25] <oofnik> thanks SQFreak
[06:26] <bphan> anybody know what might be the problme?
[06:26] <oofnik> woaahh crap
[06:26] <oofnik> i got a million beepy noises and "invalid card number" ??
[06:26] <dabaR_> tito, just go to http://packages.ubuntu.org/com? and search, thats what you can do...find the exact packages that dist-upgrade lists.
[06:26] <SQFreak> oofnik: It makes my computer do the Ubuntu "thunk" three times.
[06:26] <SQFreak> oofnik: Sounds like something's messed up. (Yes, yes, thank you Captain Obvious.)
[06:27] <oofnik> haha.. yeah something.. if not everything sound related
[06:27] <oofnik> anybody want to tackle sound problems?
[06:27] <tito_> dabaR_, okay I'll search around on ubuntu.org for a bit - at least it's possible!
[06:28] <dabaR__> you mean making GRUB boot into windows by default in menu.lst?
[06:29] <oofnik> aww i dont want to have to ditch ubuntu
[06:29] <oofnik> i really like it
[06:29] <dabaR__> why are you ditching it now?
[06:29] <SQFreak> Yeah, I just got my ShipIt CDs in the mail today! (I downloaded and burned the ISO, but having pressed CDs is so much cooler. :)
[06:29] <yzero> oofnick Have you gone through the ubuntuguide.org sound problem setup?
[06:30] <oofnik> yep, didn't help
[06:30] <dabaR__> what sound card do you have?
[06:30] <oofnik> audigy 2 value
[06:30] <yzero> offnick, is it detected on boot?
[06:30] <yzero> oof
[06:30] <dabaR__> ok, disabled on b oard in BIOS?
[06:30] <oofnik> i'm pretty sure it is, but it does what it just did now, when alsa starts i get several beeps and 'invalid card number' several times
[06:31] <oofnik> and /dev/dsp doesn't exist, if that has anything to do with it
[06:31] <dabaR__> go verify...then also, crimsun knows how to fix sound...does any prog play sound?
[06:31] <oofnik> no, nothing
[06:31] <oofnik> alsamixer won't even run either
[06:31] <oofnik> crimsun seems to be out
[06:32] <dabaR__> atm...
[06:33] <trueprophet> hey guys, anyone know a good avi to mpeg converter for ubuntu?
[06:33] <Mejobloggs> hey, how can i set it so that if i install new things using 'Add/Remove' it installs from CD, not internet ?
[06:34] <dabaR__> which CD?
[06:34] <dabaR__> you need to add it to sources.list...
[06:34] <dabaR__> and comment out internet.
[06:34] <dabaR__> there should be an example from the ubuntu install CD in the file.
[06:34] <imaek> 21:34:18 up 5 days,  8:25,  3 users,  load average: 2.12, 2.09, 1.85
[06:35] <dabaR__> wow, he can keep it up long...
[06:35] <dabaR__> 5 days...o_O
[06:35] <oofnik> haha..
[06:35] <dabaR__> dont encourage him...
[06:36] <oofnik> hmm where could crimsun be..
[06:36] <dabaR__> dabar means beaver in my lang.(Croatian)
[06:36] <dabaR__> #ubuntu-motu
[06:36] <dabaR__> hehe
[06:37] <dabaR__> no hiding from the dabar.
[06:37] <dabaR__> only 54 minutes for the Hoary upgrade...
[06:37] <dabaR__> left.
[06:37] <knucks> can someone help me step by step on how to setup an ftp server on my pc?
[06:38] <dabaR__> sudo aptitude install proftpd in one step
[06:38] <dabaR__> for sftp sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[06:38] <psirix> does ubuntu create a root account by default?
[06:38] <psirix> i dont remember creating a password or anything during install...
[06:38] <ninwa> sudo passwd root
[06:38] <ninwa> type that to set the root password
[06:38] <knucks> huh?
[06:38] <dabaR__> remember to turn off port 21 blocking on your router or firewall
[06:38] <ninwa> common question
[06:38] <ninwa>  :o)
[06:38] <psirix> oh ok thx
[06:38] <psirix> sry :(
[06:39] <psirix> me = n00b
[06:39] <ninwa> npn
[06:39] <ninwa> np
[06:39] <dabaR__> psirix no it doesnt
[06:39] <flatface> Hey, have a stupid question about the Matrox mga-vid drivers; I followed all of the instructions, built it fine, but it compiles a module for kernel 2.6.10, whereas the only kernel on the machine is 2.6.10-5-386... Is there a way to control which kernel it compiles for with make-kpkg modules_image? (the resulting filename is mga-vid-2.6.10_1.55-0.1+10.00.Custom_i386.deb)
[06:39] <Octane> im trying to remove the password from sudo... and i use the sample from ubuntuguide.org but it still prompts for a passssword
[06:39] <dabaR__> knucks type in sudo aptitude install proftpd in a terminal to install a ftp server in one step\
[06:39] <dabaR__> ftp does not encrypt passwords, so sftp is a better choice in some cases...
[06:39] <dabaR__> Octane no way to do that.
[06:40] <Octane> dabaR__, i cant have sudo use a password, because i need to run certain apps from a script with sudo
[06:40] <knucks> dabaR_ it asks what to run proftpd from...inetd or standalon?
[06:40] <Octane> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#allowmoresudoers
[06:40] <r258NzKiwi> can't u use sudo passwd <username>
[06:40] <Octane> look you can do it without a password
[06:40] <dabaR__> knucks it also explains what is what.
[06:40] <psirix> yeah sudo passwd <username> works
[06:40] <psirix> i just did it
[06:41] <knucks> ah ok
[06:41] <flatface> ...Anyone?
[06:41] <knucks> how do i unblock port 21?
[06:41] <Octane> i just want to ubuntu to prompt for a pw when i do sudo
[06:41] <knucks> ah nvm
[06:41] <knucks> i know how
[06:41] <dabaR__> can you <password into the command?
[06:41] <dabaR__> knucks have a router?
[06:41] <knucks> yeah
[06:41] <knucks> ok opened port 21
[06:41] <knucks> now what
[06:42] <zyth> fwd port 21 to your linux system
[06:42] <dabaR__> now setup port forwarding to the computer through the router, for port 21
[06:42] <dabaR__> set up a static IP onn the comptuer...
[06:42] <SQFreak> I'm running Ubuntu 5.04 (with kdelibs installed). Would it kill my installation to use the KDE Kubuntu KOffice 1.4 repo and download KOffice 1.4?
[06:42] <knucks> ok..
[06:42] <knucks> now what
[06:43] <dabaR__> set up a static IP already?
[06:43] <knucks> i have one, yes
[06:43] <Octane> so there is no way to make ubuntu not request a password when I do sudo as a certain user?
[06:43] <zyth> on Comcast?
[06:43] <zyth> weird.
[06:43] <dabaR__> ok, well, also port 21 forwarding to that IP set up on the router?
[06:43] <zyth> didn't know we did static for non business
[06:43] <dabaR__> not on Comcast, after the router...
[06:43] <dabaR__> zyth
[06:44] <dabaR__> what do you do?
[06:44] <knucks> zyth mine's basically static..i never turn my router off and the IP stays static
[06:44] <zyth> I do tech support for Comcast.
[06:44] <dabaR__> where, which city, bitch:)
[06:44] <zyth> knucks, ahh.
[06:44] <dabaR__> I do too...
[06:44] <knucks> yeh no literal static ip
[06:44] <knucks> hah
[06:44] <zyth> dabaR__, in Winnipeg, Canada
[06:44] <capi> anyone know how I can monitor/restrict my bandwidth with a program, or per user.  I work in ecare...
[06:45] <ale_> well, it doesn't...
[06:45] <Octane> actually yes that line asks you for a pw
[06:45] <ale_> it's working here...
[06:45] <r258NzKiwi> is any 1 here from NZ
[06:45] <knucks> knucks@linux:~$ ftp knucks@localhost
[06:45] <knucks> ftp: knucks@localhost: Unknown host
[06:46] <knucks> ftp>
[06:46] <ale_> i wrote it once, and then...
[06:46] <ale_> it didn't ask for pwd anymore.
[06:46] <tito_> If apt-get upgrade says I need: openoffice.org version 1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3 and I go to the web to pull  openoffice.org_1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3_all.deb --- is that the same thing?
[06:46] <dabaR__> do ftp knucks@staticIP
[06:46] <Octane> ale_ isright
[06:46] <Octane> it works
[06:46] <Octane> thanks so much ale_
[06:46] <Mejobloggs> im from NZ
[06:47] <dabaR__> zyth, what? why are you not telling me?
[06:47] <ale_> Octane, you should be carefull with that...
[06:47] <zyth> dabaR__, check yours msgs :P
[06:47] <ale_> you have root power now :)
[06:47] <surly> tito yes
[06:47] <djs> tito_, yep, that's the one
[06:47] <dabaR__> dunno how in bitchx
[06:47] <zyth> oh lol
[06:47] <tito_> sweet, thanks!
[06:47] <zyth> shoulda come up on main console
[06:47] <djs> tito_, everything up to the _ should match
[06:47] <knucks> knucks@linux:~$ ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:47] <knucks> ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Unknown host
[06:47] <knucks> ftp>
[06:47] <dabaR__> are you online?
[06:47] <dabaR__> hehe
[06:47] <tito_> okay, thanks djs
[06:48] <djs> tito_, np
[06:48] <knucks> yeah..
[06:48] <zyth> I'm not in wpg right now, I'm on extended leave of absence due to some family stuff
[06:48] <knucks> maybe i didnt set something up right?
[06:48] <zyth> won't be back for like another month
[06:48] <dabaR__> oh, ok...
[06:48] <knucks> can we private talk?
[06:48] <dabaR__> dunno how in bitchx, knucks.
[06:48] <zyth> dabaR__, apt-get install xchat ;)
[06:49] <dabaR__> hehe, Mac.
[06:49] <zyth> or are you connected via telnet/ssh?
[06:49] <Octane> brb
[06:49] <zyth> ohh
[06:49] <r258NzKiwi> mejobloggs r u from leeston or southbridge or dunsandel or christchurch
[06:49] <zyth> there has gotta be some graphical irc client for mac
[06:49] <surly> looking for good resouce for removing packages in ubuntu...thnx
[06:49] <tito_> djs, just to confirm, I basically am only looking for the deb packages - not the diff.gz, .dsc, or tar.gz right?  (and then the highest version number of that deb package)?
[06:49] <dabaR__> brb
[06:50] <djs> tito_, yes, just the .deb files
[06:50] <tito_> k
[06:50] <Mejobloggs> how do you install the .deb files?
[06:50] <iratsu> what's responsible for my ipod mounting automatically when i plug it in?
[06:51] <SQFreak> surly: you just want to remove packages? Synaptic is easy and great for that.
[06:51] <tito_> dpkg -i package.deb
[06:51] <dabaR__> knucks whats your static IP, try ftping that one.
[06:51] <tito_> right?
[06:51] <SQFreak> Mejobloggs: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[06:51] <djs> Mejobloggs, sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[06:51] <surly> tito: type "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org_1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3"
[06:51] <Mejobloggs> heh, thanks
[06:51] <dabaR__> iratsu gnome-volume-manager
[06:51] <surly> tito or just "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[06:51] <tito_> surly, I'm trying to figure out to get these large packages over to my house - I'm on slow dialup
[06:51] <iratsu> dabaR__: where can i find the settings for that?
[06:52] <tito_> otherwise, I love apt-get
[06:52] <dabaR__> gnome-conf-editor
[06:52] <zyth> I wish openoffice 2 would hurry up and come out.
[06:52] <tito_> no kidding!
[06:52] <SQFreak> zyth: I'm about to start playing around with KOffice 1.4...
[06:52] <K_Dallas> zyth, you could still use the nightly builds
[06:52] <dabaR> I wish OOo2 would take it easy and come up with a good product:P
[06:52] <zyth> SQFreak, KDE is the devil.
[06:52] <kutucape> what is kscand? and what it does?
[06:52] <zyth> K_Dallas, true, yeah
[06:52] <surly> tito: all i can suggest is running in while you sleep. i know that sucks....but thats the breaks.
[06:52] <K_Dallas> and it is pretty good and stable
[06:53] <zyth> dabaR, we should all go back to WP5 for DOS!
[06:53] <SQFreak> zyth: I use GNOME, but I run some KDE apps.
[06:53] <nalioth> zyth: KDE? no windows is the devil
[06:53] <dabaR> I still use that...
[06:53] <tito_> yea, it sucks...
[06:53] <zyth> SQFreak, doesn't that look awful?
[06:53] <dabaR> its good for the job...
[06:53] <zyth> dabaR, WP5 was an awesome program
[06:53] <iratsu> why is it that my ipod automatically mounts to /media/IPOD when it's written in /etc/fstab what it should mount at /mnt/ipod?
[06:53] <SQFreak> zyth: Not really...I mean, the KDE apps look a little out of place, but the apps run great.
[06:54] <dabaR> iratsu umount it, remount it to /mnt/ipod
[06:54] <zyth> SQFreak, hm.  I had major issues with K3b in Warty, so I've avoided KDE apps since
[06:54] <iratsu> dabaR: i'm not asking how to do it, i just wanna know why it does that
[06:54] <SQFreak> zyth: Oh, I love K3B!
[06:54] <nalioth> zyth: k3b works wonderfully in hoary
[06:55] <SQFreak> zyth: And KOffice is so much faster than OOo... But it all depends on what I feel like using for the day.
[06:55] <zyth> nalioth, yeah? Can I make it LOOK nice too? ;)
[06:55] <nalioth> zyth: i know nothing about skinning kde
[06:55] <nalioth> zyth: i only want performance
[06:55] <dabaR> zyth wear a blindfold, hehe
[06:55] <zyth> nalioth, ahh k.  I'm just picky I guess.
[06:55] <zyth> LOL
[06:56] <zyth> randomly click stuff in k3b, see what comes out
[06:56] <dabaR> nono, assistiv3 technologies.
[06:56] <zyth> woot
[06:56] <dabaR> I should be an op here.
[06:56] <zyth> actually, the gnome keyboard works well for tabletpcs
[06:57] <dabaR> I never got that program to open, it isntalls, and I click it, and it defies me.
[06:57] <zyth> odd
[06:58] <dabaR> ya, whatever, I have fingers...
[06:58] <dabaR> luckily...
[06:58] <dabaR> I couldnt work ecare otherwise...
[06:58] <zyth> lol
[06:58] <zyth> dinnertime
[06:58] <zyth> I'm off.
[06:59] <dabaR> see ya
[06:59] <SQFreak> Krita could use some work in working with big images. The zoom is unwieldy...
[07:04] <dabaR> unome pages loading slow?
[07:04] <unome> dabaR: the entire connection slow
[07:04] <jessid> hi! could some of you tell me if installed ubuntu brings some p2p program?
[07:06] <dr_willis> jessid,  you can easially install several
[07:06] <dr_willis> the ubuntu wiki's have a p2p section
[07:06] <tito_> when a kernel is upgraded in ubuntu, what happens to the old one?
[07:06] <pastyhermit> how do I get ubuntu ppc to fire up at 1024x768 instead of 1600x1200
[07:06] <pastyhermit> this text console is all mini
[07:07] <tito_> do I need to delete the old kernel?
[07:07] <dr_willis> tito_,  ive never deleted any.
[07:07] <jessid> dr_willis thanks...i'll try to look for it!!! I've tried with aMule, but coul not ./configure
[07:08] <tito_> I always had to in fedora - so I'm used to having the old option - but i can't find it
[07:08] <ale_> pastyhermit, you could try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <pastyhermit> ale_: Im talking about console
[07:08] <pastyhermit> like no X dude
[07:09] <pastyhermit> also .. thats a good point
[07:09] <pastyhermit> how do I get xorg to recognize this G3 studio display it gives me 640 in X but thats it everything else is out of range, as well its all garbled
[07:10] <dr_willis> thers  a X mode web site that  may help you out.
[07:10] <ale_> aaah, the console... no vga=? option in the boot loader?
[07:12] <jessid> dr_willis I can't find any link to software un ubuntu's web site :(
[07:12] <ThE__OnE> can someone tell me how to do fullscreen in mplayer, rightclicking and full screen works but the actual video does'nt change size, how can i fix this?
[07:13] <iratsu> has anyone gotten an error like this: "Error writing PC file "/mnt/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F11/gtkpod00601.mp3"." in gtkpod?
[07:13] <nalioth> ThE__OnE: does the 'f' key do anything?
[07:13] <ninwa> For me it types the letter f.
[07:13] <ninwa> Oh, nevermind. :oP
[07:14] <ThE__OnE> like i said, the window becomes full screen but the video stays the same size
[07:15] <ale_> Did you try other video drivers (-vo xv option?) you can also try (-vo help)
[07:15] <oofnik> can anybody get alsaconf to run on hoary?
[07:15] <ilba7r> i have both ubuntu and kubuntu and i want to change the default display manager from kdm to gdm how can i do that?
[07:16] <pastyhermit> ale_: thi
[07:16] <pastyhermit> ale_: the vga option didnt work
[07:16] <pastyhermit> this is some wierd mac thing
[07:16] <pastyhermit> also ....
[07:16] <pastyhermit> where is this site you speak of to help wme with the monitor settings for X
[07:16] <pastyhermit> ?
[07:17] <oofnik> hey dabar
[07:17] <dabaR> hey
[07:17] <dr_willis> ilba7r,  use dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[07:18] <oofnik> dabar.. weird question.. can you run alsaconf?
[07:18] <dabaR> me?
[07:18] <ilba7r> thanx dr_willis
[07:18] <oofnik> yeah haha
[07:18] <pastyhermit> ale_: ?
[07:18] <dabaR_>  alsaconf
[07:18] <dabaR_> bash: alsaconf: command not found
[07:19] <oofnik> yeah.. that's what happens with me.. you have alsa installed though dont you?
[07:19] <dabaR_> alsamixer works...
[07:19] <oofnik> yeah thats odd
[07:20] <dabaR_> yours doesnt, right..
[07:20] <oofnik> it gives an error
[07:20] <pastyhermit> Anyone know what the mintor settings are on a G3 studion display?
[07:20] <oofnik> :(
[07:20] <dabaR> hehe, Im nice.
[07:20] <oofnik> i kick you
[07:20] <dabaR>  /me kicks...
[07:20] <oofnik> i want to get my damned sound working argghh
[07:21] <dabaR> crimsun are you around, or perhaps asquare?
[07:21] <oofnik> crimsun hasn't said anything in the hour and a half ive been here
[07:22] <dabaR> he is a busy one.
[07:22] <dabaR> ok, Im gonna pretend Im a busy one, or at least a sleepy one, and go to bed.
[07:22] <dabaR> night all.
[07:23] <unome> night
[07:23] <oofnik> haha, later
[07:23] <tito_> night dabar, thanks for your help
[07:23] <dabaR_> hey, its nothing...
[07:23] <nalioth> any other dabars, your party is leaving
[07:24] <dr_willis> Hmm.. cant seem to get to a samba share with gnomes network browser tool. Its not asking for my user/password. perhaps its  got the wrong one cached.
[07:25] <TokenBad> what was command to see how much freespace on a drive again?
[07:25] <dr_willis> wheres gnome cache those anyway?
[07:25] <dr_willis> df -h, df -h
[07:25] <dr_willis> orr du -h :P
[07:25] <TokenBad> I am so bad with commands
[07:25] <vince_> hello all
[07:25] <nalioth> TokenBad: you can install "xdiskfree" for a pretty picture
[07:25] <rbrenart> I'm trying to configure kismet on my ubuntu system but am getting the following error "FATAL: Unknown capture source type 'ipw2100' in source 'ipw2100,eth1,wireless'", does ubuntu use the proper ipw2100 driver, or is it using ndiswrapper?
[07:25] <yzero> Anyone else have a problem after install and you reboot "Grub hd error"
[07:27] <nalioth> amonkey: i didnt realize you were my neighbor
[07:28] <amonkey> nalioth, where are you?
[07:28] <nalioth> pasadena
[07:28] <rbrenart> ok more simply put, with an intel ipw2100 card, does ubuntu use the ipw2100 drivers or the ndiswrapper drivers, or if youdon't know, do you know how I'd check?
[07:28] <amonkey> not to far away at all
[07:30] <amonkey> nalioth, i'm over by east 8 and 10
[07:32] <pastyhermit> Anyone know what the mintor settings are on a G3 studion display?
[07:33] <rbrenart> ok second questoin then, does anyone know how to add entries ot the Places menu?
[07:34] <john__> i made a backup of my hd before reinstalling is there a way i can use the packages from before so i dont have to redownload a ton of stuff
[07:34] <pastyhermit> Anyone know what the mintor settings are on a G3 studion display?
[07:35] <TokenBad> hmm..any ideas on this
[07:35] <TokenBad> guy ftp into me
[07:35] <nalioth> john__: you may put source pkgs in /var/apt/cache
[07:35] <TokenBad> and instead of it uploading it just sits there
[07:35] <TokenBad> and then times out..and then reconnects
[07:35] <john__> k i did that wasnt sure if i needed to do anything else :)
[07:36] <nalioth> john__: not sure either
[07:36] <john__> going to try now hope thats all that needs done
[07:36] <HermanDE> Anybody have good luck making jabber talk to ldap for auth?
[07:37] <yzero> Anyone else have a problem after install and you reboot "Grub hd error"
[07:37] <HermanDE> yzero, Are you running breezy?
[07:38] <yzero> HermanDE, No.. hoary
[07:39] <yzero> It's on a qosmio f10 toshiba laptop
[07:39] <john__> looks like that worked cool
[07:39] <HermanDE> yzero, In my world a borking grub usually means a new hard drive.....
[07:39] <cartel_> HermanDE: i gave up
[07:39] <yzero> umm the laptop is like 1 week old
[07:39] <yzero> works fine
[07:40] <cartel_> laptops can be sketchy
[07:40] <HermanDE> cartel_, I can't stand not being able to run a simple app.....
[07:40] <cartel_> report it to grub list
[07:40] <cartel_> HermanDE: jabberd is not simple
[07:40] <yzero> I want to get ubuntu running
[07:40] <HermanDE> yzero, Hmmm....  Did you get a proper install prior to the bork?
[07:40] <yzero> yea
[07:40] <yzero> the install works fine.. then when it boots its fucked
[07:40] <cartel_> HermanDE: try ejabberd
[07:40] <yzero> so i have to fdisk /mbr and reset the xp partition to active
[07:40] <nalioth> yzero: try lilo
[07:40] <HermanDE> yzero, Is the hard drive sata?
[07:41] <transgress> yzero: probably didn't actually get a good install then
[07:41] <yzero> transgress. I've tried it twice..
[07:41] <HermanDE> cartel_, I'm thinking along the same lines....
[07:41] <cartel_> HermanDE: i had no luck with the jabber.org servers
[07:41] <yzero> I know the cd is fine cuz i used it for 2 desktops
[07:41] <HermanDE> cartel_, Are the normal jabber modules available through ejabber?
[07:41] <yzero> nalioth, How can I install lilo without being able to boot?
[07:41] <transgress> yzero: could be the disc...
[07:41] <cartel_> HermanDE: no its a reimplementation
[07:41] <transgress> oh
[07:41] <nalioth> yzero: do you have a liveCd?
[07:41] <transgress> well
[07:41] <transgress> umm
[07:41] <transgress> god hates you then
[07:41] <yzero> nalioth: no =[
[07:42] <rommer> how can i check what version of php i have installed
[07:42] <nalioth> yzero: get one
[07:42] <yzero> as a test?
[07:42] <cartel_> HermanDE: and its written in erlang
[07:42] <yzero> fark i'm on satellite net @ work heh.
[07:42] <nalioth> yzero: to rescue your boot loader
[07:42] <HermanDE> cartel_, Yep, I've read the info....
[07:42] <yzero> Oh i see.
[07:42] <yzero> Ok I'll download it over the night
[07:43] <yzero> How do I access it? just mount /dev/hda5 or whatever?
[07:43] <HermanDE> yzero, Can you do a boot with the cd on this system?
[07:43] <yzero> HermanDE yes
[07:43] <nalioth> yzero: you'll need to chroot to your installed ubuntu and set up lilo
[07:43] <cartel_> HermanDE: i fought with jabberd and jabber2d for two weeks on auth to ldap
[07:43] <HermanDE> cartel_, Did you toss it in the can or did you use ejabb?
[07:44] <cartel_> HermanDE: i used ejabberd
[07:44] <HermanDE> cartel_, Is it a clean setup/config with ldap?
[07:44] <djs> rbrenart, still here?
[07:44] <yzero> Can i use my install cd to fix it somehow? or a tomsrtbt linux floppy maybe?
[07:44] <cartel_> its cleaner than jabberd :/
[07:45] <HermanDE> yzero, Usually....  The Ubuntu CD can also be used to fix a system...
[07:45] <yzero> actually yea thats a problem since i'm sitting on a rig off the coast of thailand and i have no blank cds.
[07:45] <yzero> HermanDE.. ok Can you tell me what to do? :P
[07:45] <HermanDE> cartel_, Thanks...  You just pushed jabber2d off of my server...  FOR GOOD.....
[07:45] <SpecialBuddy> so how do I start customizing this thing
[07:46] <john__> whats a good site to learn how to make gnome themes/icons/window boarders
[07:46] <TokenBad> how can I restart proftpd?
[07:46] <yzero> I can always just reinstall ubuntu and goto alt-f2 once grub is installed...
[07:46] <cartel_> HermanDE, remember ejabberd is experimental
[07:46] <HermanDE> yzero, Ok....  Step ONE:  Insert CD..  Step TWO:  Boot off of the CD....  Step THREE:  When it is booted switch to another console....
[07:46] <yzero> oh ok.
[07:47] <yzero> I'll see what I can do
[07:47] <yzero> thanks
[07:47] <crimsun> oofnik: yes?
[07:47] <HermanDE> cartel_, That is what has kept me away.....
[07:47] <HermanDE> TokenBad, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[07:47] <TokenBad> thanks
[07:47] <TokenBad> is there a way to see what the upload speed that it gets?
[07:48] <HermanDE> TokenBad, Are you trying to measure your bandwidth?
[07:48] <TokenBad> no just want to know what his speed to me is
[07:49] <HermanDE> TokenBad, use iptraf
[07:49] <vaa1> I've got a "failed to initialize HAL", how do I get explicit Logs of this error ?
[07:49] <Octane> im running kubuntu and i want to install a newer version of amarok... should i apt-get remove it and also remove the metapackage kubuntu-desktop
[07:49] <cartel_> herman did you try doing pam auth in jabberd2
[07:49] <Octane> will that ruine anything?
[07:49] <DukGalNamu> hello
[07:50] <vaa1> Octane : I'm a not sure, but this seems quite dangerous ! ;)
[07:50] <HermanDE> cartel_, My last attempt (which lasted 2 weeks) had me throwing everything I could.....  Including PAM, RADIUS, NSS, and LDAP.  All to get a simple LDAP auth...
[07:50] <DukGalNamu> hey anyone know how hard it would be to run a mac program (osx) in ubunut?
[07:51] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, Pretty easy if it is a script....
[07:51] <cartel_> radius...
[07:51] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, Pretty complex if it is a binary executable....
[07:51] <cartel_> you masochist
[07:51] <cartel_> :]
[07:51] <nalioth> Octane: removing kubuntu-desktop won't cause any problem
[07:51] <DukGalNamu> HermanDE: and if is a program like ... say.... photoshop?
[07:51] <Octane> vaa1, its not dangerous, kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it just means im taking away amarok, which is a part of it
[07:52] <cartel_> DukGalNamu: install pearpc and dont expect it ro run fast
[07:52] <cartel_> to*
[07:52] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, How much time do you have on your hands?
[07:52] <chris>
[07:52] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, And the follow up question...  Why not use something with a touch more painting power?
[07:52] <vaa1> Octane : okay, I've just learned something... thanks a lot ;)
[07:52] <DukGalNamu> ummm 3mins... :P
[07:52] <DukGalNamu> gimp?
[07:52] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, Like the Great GIMP?
[07:52] <DukGalNamu> yeah
[07:52] <DukGalNamu> i know
[07:53] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, Or Blender....
[07:53] <DukGalNamu> but photoshop is graphic arts standered
[07:53] <DukGalNamu> is blender free?
[07:53] <cartel_> yes
[07:53] <djs> Octane, is the newer amarok version a .deb package?
[07:53] <vince_> Hey guys right now I'm using Debian because I tried ubuntu and I was curious but I would have to say ubuntu is #1 :)
[07:53] <DukGalNamu> sorry for the lag
[07:53] <yzero> HermanDE, /dev doesn't have my hard drive device =[
[07:53] <DukGalNamu> i am downloading naruto
[07:53] <tiglionabbit> DukGalNamu: yes, blender and gimp are free
[07:53] <cartel_> photoshop is standard for those who dont know psp :)
[07:53] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, I have never been in a graphics shop where they denied work because it was not done using an Adobe product....
[07:53] <Daehlie> DukGalNamu: legally no doubt
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> brb
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> no but most work with adobe, and know adobe
[07:54] <cartel_> adobe cs is a steaming pile...
[07:54] <TokenBad> I have used photoshop, bryce, terragen, apophysis, vista pro, maya, autocad, and um..
[07:54] <Skif> Is there a way to get mplayer installed on hoary?  I keep getting errors because marillat's repository tracks debian, so it won't install from there.  Is there an alternate source?
[07:54] <TokenBad> some others I forget
[07:54] <cartel_> DukGalNamu: you might like gimpshop
[07:54] <TokenBad> but blender never liked me
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> Skif: read the wiki
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> and most people that work in a graphics arts place are expected to KNOW adobe in and out
[07:54] <cartel_> DukGalNamu: that is gimp hacked up to work like adobe
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> http://www.ubuntulinux.org
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> gimpshop?
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> ohhh
[07:54] <DukGalNamu> free?
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> DukGalNamu: actually many places, like Pixar, request that you are able to use traditional media, and want you to NOT be attached to a proprietary graphics program
[07:55] <Skif> thechitowncubs: there's a lot of pages on that wiki; can you be more specific, please?
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> search mplayerinstall
[07:55] <transgress> what is the kde art program?  it looked pretty nice
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> and you're in business
[07:55] <DukGalNamu> didn't know that
[07:55] <HermanDE> TokenBad, Blender requires a crack pipe and a very large keyboard overlay...  The newest version actually puts point/click menues on the screen....
[07:55] <DukGalNamu> but i am talking about in printing. not animation
[07:55] <cartel_> you are actively promoting vendor lockin
[07:55] <DukGalNamu> i have another question
[07:56] <DukGalNamu> openoffice takes FOREVER to load up, is there anything lighter then that?
[07:56] <nalioth_zZzZzZzZ> DukGalNamu: abiword
[07:56] <cartel_> koffice
[07:56] <cartel_> koffice is significantly lighter
[07:56] <jessid> some of you know how can I enable and disable firewall in ubuntu linux?
[07:56] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, koffice
[07:56] <yzero> DukGalNamu: crossover office with microsoft office
[07:56] <rommer> what file do i change to install php5?
[07:56] <DukGalNamu> thats not tied to kde or gnome
[07:56] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, WordPerfect.  (Yes the linux version is still available)
[07:56] <rommer> what file do i change to install php5 from source
[07:57] <DukGalNamu> i use fluxbox
[07:57] <nalioth_zZzZzZzZ> jessid: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[07:57] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, lyx
[07:57] <TokenBad> anyone know a way to see what accounts are being used in proftpd at a given time?
[07:57] <DukGalNamu> lyx?
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> No
[07:57] <nalioth_zZzZzZzZ> DukGalNamu: a text formatter
[07:57] <cartel_> yzero: crossover is not faster than OOo
[07:57] <HermanDE> yzero, Wow...  He is talking about making things faster...  :)
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> The best lighweight word processor is ABIWORD!
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> its great
[07:57] <cartel_> vi
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> sudo apt-get install abiword
[07:57] <cartel_> ;)
[07:57] <HermanDE> TokenBad, Check your log file....
[07:57] <Skif> thechitowncubs: ah, nice to know I don't need marillat anymore.  Thanks!
[07:57] <DukGalNamu> abiword.. what and how, and does it support and write to MW files?
[07:58] <cartel_> yes it doe
[07:58] <cartel_> s
[07:58] <thechitowncubs> Skif: ya, next time give a check on the wiki, it has EVERYTHINg
[07:58] <DukGalNamu> its free right?
[07:58] <cartel_> of course
[07:58] <nalioth_zZzZzZzZ> DukGalNamu: 99% of linux software is free
[07:58] <DukGalNamu> and light weight
[07:58] <DukGalNamu> cause openoffice takes like 12 sec to start up
[07:58] <budluva1> does ubuntu use apt?
[07:58] <Skif> thechitowncubs: Actually, I did; apparently I did not use the right combination to find that page, though.
[07:59] <DukGalNamu> yes
[07:59] <DukGalNamu> ubuntu uses apt
[07:59] <thechitowncubs> Skif: no prob, you an also check it by searching TEXT instead of title
[07:59] <thechitowncubs> i make that mistake all the time
[07:59] <cartel_> DukGalNamu: each session?
[07:59] <DukGalNamu> cartel_: what do you mean by session?
[07:59] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, 12 seconds..  Geeze.  I have brand new DELL's that take 30 seconds to Launch Office 2003 Pro.. under Windows XP with 512 M Ram....
[07:59] <rommer> how do i change teh configuration when trying to isntall php5
[08:00] <cartel_> now someone has retooled gimpshop, someone should retool it again with hotbox :)
[08:00] <DukGalNamu> HermanDE: well, you did get a dell
[08:00] <DukGalNamu> and they only use intel...
[08:00] <cartel_> DukGalNamu: does it happen only the first time after a reboot that it is slow and subsequent starts are fast?
[08:00] <budluva1> what wm does ubuntu use for the live cd?
[08:00] <AvFnx> wha up
[08:00] <Amaranth> rommer: ?
[08:00] <cartel_> budluva1: gnome...
[08:00] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, Nope...  Not for me.  I tell people what they need.  Then they get caught up in a Dell marketing spin..
[08:00] <Amaranth> rommer: Ubuntu doesn't have PHP5
[08:01] <DukGalNamu> cartel_: all starts are unfortunatly the same
[08:01] <HermanDE> Amaranth, Breezy.....
[08:01] <holycow> oo 2.0 beta takes 2 seconds to bring up a new window on windows tho, after the initial startup
[08:01] <holycow> kinda nifty
[08:01] <Amaranth> HermanDE: It's in breezy? *checks*
[08:01] <djs> DukGalNamu, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9925 "HOWTO: Speed Up OpenOffice.org Startup"
[08:01] <DukGalNamu> HermanDE: dells are whores
[08:01] <holycow> i guess some kinda preload is necessary on linux as well
[08:01] <cartel_> DukGalNamu: try apt-get install prelink
[08:01] <jessid> how can I stop the firewall?
[08:01] <AvFnx> have any have problem w/ flash in fiirefox
[08:01] <Amaranth> HermanDE: Nope, not seeing php5 in breezy.
[08:01] <oofnik> i just recompiled/reinstalled alsa, can anyone help me with editing modules.conf
[08:01] <budluva1> cartel_, cool, i think im going to check it out, have been using debian for awhile, i think its time to check out the ubuntu buzz
[08:01] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, Sure..  The other side is that dells usually need replacing after a few years....
[08:01] <crimsun> oofnik: don't touch modules.conf
[08:01] <Amaranth> OO.o 2 starts a lot faster
[08:02] <HermanDE> DukGalNamu, More money for me...
[08:02] <HermanDE> Amaranth, Just a guess.....
[08:02] <SpecialBuddy> where can I download new themes?
[08:02] <crimsun> oofnik: and why did you recompile/reinstall ALSA?
[08:02] <DukGalNamu> heh
[08:02] <DukGalNamu> i know
[08:02] <budluva1> cartel_, i've been told ubuntu is loosely based on debian, that true?
[08:02] <HermanDE> SpecialBuddy, themes.freshmeat.net
[08:02] <crimsun> budluva1: it's very strongly based on Debian, heh
[08:02] <holycow> budluva1, loosely?
[08:02] <holycow> it pretty much is debian, with some minor exceptions
[08:02] <holycow> debian unstable that is
[08:03] <HermanDE> budluva1, loose?  Debian....  Hmmmmm..  Must check the DFSG....
[08:03] <holycow> big difference from debian stable
[08:03] <oofnik> because i haven't gotten sound working after 10+ hrs of trying
[08:03] <DukGalNamu> it just sucks when people don't learn the lesson the first time
[08:03] <cartel_> budluva1: loosely? they share ~50% codebase. "debian is the rock on which ubuntu is built"
[08:03] <oofnik> people say you know how to do it with an audigy 2..?
[08:03] <budluva1> cartel_, ahh, so its debians little brother then? :P
[08:03] <SpecialBuddy> cool
[08:03] <budluva1> hey hey, just going off what ive been told
[08:03] <budluva1> i know nothing about ubuntu
[08:03] <vince_> holycow, I'm using debian right now but I would have to say ubuntu is my fav
[08:03] <crimsun> oofnik: sure. Then again, you didn't have to recompile or reinstall ALSA at all.
[08:03] <Amaranth> budluva1: Debian is the king and Ubuntu is the prince, heir to the throne ;)
[08:03] <holycow> vince_, yeah for the desktop
[08:03] <Amaranth> budluva1: Saw that on a blog or something
[08:03] <cartel_> ubuntu doesnt have debian's quality yet
[08:03] <crimsun> oofnik: paste the output from amixer onto the pastebin noted in this irc channel's topic
[08:03] <holycow> i wouldn't trade in debian on a server for anything
[08:04] <vince_> holycow, yea i'm a desktop person too
[08:04] <oofnik> hah.. well i think it's too late now.. alright
[08:04] <cartel_> and a big plus debian has is the bts
[08:04] <budluva1> vince_, ya? i havent found much that makes me want to go away from debian, you say you favor ubuntu over debian?
[08:04] <holycow> eventually debian should be a decent desktop too, now that the ubuntu fixes and help are rolled in tho
[08:04] <holycow> brb
[08:04] <HermanDE> I have servers running Debian and Ubuntu.  Yes I smoked the secret recepie to install Ubuntu as a server in the first release....
[08:04] <oofnik> crimsun it just says no such device
[08:04] <cartel_> no, most ubuntu stuff is halfassed by comparison
[08:04] <crimsun> oofnik: ugh, you messed up something
[08:04] <AvFnx> ubuntu is the best linux distro that i have tried.............it works
[08:04] <cartel_> debian will do their own thing and take ubuntu that they can
[08:05] <oofnik> but it hasn't worked at all before to begin with anyway
[08:05] <rommer> im trying to install php5 from source but when i do ./configure ... this error comes up You will need flex 2.5.4 if you want to regenerate Zend/PHP lexical parsers.
[08:05] <cartel_> ubuntu is an attempt by a few developers to take sid and make it stable
[08:05] <vince_> budluva1, well ubuntu is a easy install and configures stuff for you. It's better for newbies because they could spend like 20 hours or more tying to configure debian to work
[08:05] <HermanDE> rommer, Have you tried looking for php5 at www.apt-get.org?
[08:05] <crimsun> oofnik: be precise: do you mean you couldn't hear anything, or do you mean whenever you tried to play music files the application(s) crashed?
[08:05] <DukGalNamu> gotta go guys, talk to ya later
[08:05] <crimsun> oofnik: note the stark contrast between the two
[08:05] <AvFnx> can any help me w/ my flash problem
[08:06] <Amaranth> AvFnx: What flash problem?
[08:06] <jbroome> keep your fly closed.  that helped my flash problem
[08:06] <oofnik> neither.. they just can't find the device.. so for example xmms won't play at all
[08:06] <budluva1> vince_, yar, my first debian install were kind of hairy, but not too many problems, so ubuntu is based off of debian and is more newbie-ish / desktop-user orientated?
[08:06] <rommer> HermanDE: no
[08:06] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Uh... What flash problem?
[08:06] <AvFnx> when i go mlb.com i cant c the score
[08:06] <crimsun> jbroome: what, tuxcake flashing you again? ;)
[08:06] <TokenBad> ok my new render is done..now to think of a title for it
[08:06] <jbroome> crimsun: i showed tuxcake who was boss
[08:06] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Which web browser are you using?
[08:07] <AvFnx> Firefox
[08:07] <yzero> crimsun, You work for ubuntu right?
[08:07] <crimsun> yzero: no, I'm a MOTU
[08:07] <vince_> budluva1, yep it's great for desktop users! It owns! But i'm sure debian owns in othe areas like server mode
[08:07] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Did you follow the prompts to install flash?
[08:07] <yzero> What is that?
[08:07] <crimsun> yzero: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[08:07] <cartel_> master of the universe
[08:07] <AvFnx> i have tried installing from apt-get and by firefox
[08:07] <upgrdman> i have a weird problem with ubuntu and WAP-enabled wifi... after entering my password in the settings dialogue, and click ok, it takes me back to the network window as normal, but if i click cancel i can use my wifi, if i click ok it breaks it. rebooting always resets it to the broken state... wtf
[08:08] <oofnik> crimsun i would be so grateful if you could help me with my sound.. thank you thank you
[08:08] <HermanDE> vince_, Ub is pretty good on the server side...  It gets a bit hairy when trying to connect things...  But much better than RH9
[08:08] <yzero> ah
[08:08] <vince_> HermanDE, I heard horror stories about RH9 hehe
[08:08] <crimsun> oofnik: how much work have you invested in your new ubuntu install?
[08:08] <yzero> crimsun so you wouldn't have any idea on "grub hd error" on a reboot after install?
[08:09] <crimsun> oofnik: it seriously may be easier to simply reinstall (clean, not upgrade) Hoary if you recently installed it and have not customized much.
[08:09] <HermanDE> vince_, I have attempted to run a good chunk of the major distros as a server..
[08:09] <yzero> oofnick theres an audigy 2 thread on the forums that is stickied.
[08:09] <oofnik> well.. everything else is up and running properly.. i'd really hate to do a reinstall but i guess if i absolutely had to i would
[08:09] <oofnik> i know, i read through it three times and i still can't get anything
[08:09] <yzero> o.
[08:09] <HermanDE> vince_, The only one that keeps honest and solid has been Debian.  And that is after 8 years of setting up Linuxen servers.....
[08:09] <Razor-X> anyone here use a Das keyboard?
[08:09] <crimsun> yzero: I'm not a GRUB guru, but what error is it?
[08:09] <oofnik> alright.. so say i do that.. is it a lot of work to start from scratch to get audigy 2 working?
[08:10] <yzero> crimsun, "Grub HD error" or "Grub HD install error"
[08:10] <crimsun> oofnik: no. At most, you'll need to compile alsa-source from Hoary's universe.
[08:10] <yzero> crimsun, i had to fdisk /mbr to get back into windows
[08:10] <yzero> crimsun, Qosmio f10 toshiba laptop.
[08:10] <sciboy> Hi, debian user here, unfortunately i installed some X related ubuntu packages and i was wondering whether you could tell me what the 'run_parts' command is and where i could obtain it?
[08:10] <crimsun> oofnik: if you can reinstall Hoary quickly, I can walk you through the process.
[08:10] <Corical> lolo
[08:10] <albacker> yzero you could youse cfdisk without formatin anything and you could go back to windows.
[08:11] <albacker> yzero, you could set the windows part. to boot
[08:11] <yzero> i didn't format..
[08:11] <AvFnx> HermanDE, i have tried installing flash from apt-get and from firefox
[08:11] <vince_> HermanDE, cool i'll keep that in mind when I decide to set up my server. But for now i'm just on desktop and ubuntu is my fav. I've tried the top distros like mandrake, suse , slackware ( not bad to be honest ) . But ubuntu takes the cake
[08:11] <albacker> yzero, ah ok..
[08:11] <oofnik> well it will take me more than an hour, so i don't think that would work tonight..
[08:11] <yzero> its still on my HD now.. just no grub
[08:11] <yzero> Maybe I can make a debian boot floppy to get in
[08:11] <oofnik> what would be your first move on a clean install, just out of curiousity?
[08:11] <HermanDE> AvFnx, It could be that MLB is using some strange extension....I'm going to go there  Hold one...
[08:11] <albacker> yzero so you cant boot in linux and in windows ?
[08:11] <crimsun> oofnik: ok, then we'll try salvaging what you did. The first thing to do is: cat /proc/asound/version
[08:12] <yzero> Grub won't setup properly
[08:12] <yzero> when i install ubuntu
[08:12] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Are you using a macintosh?
[08:12] <oofnik> it says 1.0.6
[08:12] <albacker> yzero i would suggest to get a livecd.. and enter and modify..
[08:12] <yzero> I'm off the coast of thailand on a rig
[08:12] <yzero> I don't have any cds =[
[08:12] <Firsti> Hello
[08:13] <AvFnx> HermanDE, no ubuntu
[08:13] <yzero> and i'm not leaving for awhile heh
[08:13] <HermanDE> yzero, Try damn small linux..  It is 50Mb.  And better yet...   It is DEBIAN......
[08:13] <cartel_> its sorta debian
[08:13] <HermanDE> AvFnx, I'm talking about the maker of your computer....Not the OS...
[08:13] <Firsti> Where I can see all users who are in allow group: sshusers
[08:13] <oofnik> crimsun what should i do next?
[08:13] <AvFnx> HermanDE, it a compaq
[08:14] <yzero> I'm gonna try and get the next rig crew out to get me some blank cds
[08:14] <HermanDE> Firsti, /etc/groups
[08:14] <Firsti> thanks
[08:14] <albacker> yzero, :S
[08:14] <robitaille> Firsti:  /etc/group
[08:14] <vince_> Well nite all , time to sleep
[08:14] <AvFnx> HermanDE, i got say thank you for your time
[08:14] <unimatrix9> hi there
[08:14] <crimsun> oofnik: ok, now: lsmod|grep ^emu10k1
[08:14] <HermanDE> AvFnx, There are a two major versions of flash in the apt-get repository.  One is the official and the other is a GPL'd version....   Now: which amixer
[08:15] <albacker> yzero, you could use winxp boot manager to go to windows.
[08:16] <yzero> What do you mean.. I'm in windows now
[08:16] <vince_> unimatrix9, you can always compile :)
[08:16] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, How is it limited?
[08:16] <AvFnx> HermanDE, yea
[08:16] <albacker> yzero, all you have to do is get some help and some tutorials about windooze boot manager.
[08:16] <oofnik> crimsun: /usr/bin/amixer
[08:16] <yzero> albacker you mean i can use the windows boot manager to boot ubuntu?
[08:16] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Wow.....  Uh.  What does about:plugins show?
[08:16] <albacker> yzero yeah i think you can.
[08:16] <vince_> yzero, yes
[08:16] <unimatrix9> the repositories ...
[08:16] <yzero> Oh
[08:17] <yzero> k
[08:17] <gpd> me shudders
[08:17] <yzero> Anyone have a link?
[08:17] <vince_> yzero, hmm no sorry I wish I did :(
[08:17] <albacker> yzero just search a bit in google :D and youll have your ubuntu back
[08:17] <unimatrix9> for example if i wanted to install mplayer
[08:17] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, There are about 15000 packages available....  And that is just from Debian Stable.....
[08:17] <crimsun> oofnik: executing amixer should return a bunch of output (don't paste it here)
[08:17] <AvFnx> HermanDE, it show like i have it
[08:18] <unimatrix9> hmm, but they say that breaks ubuntu?
[08:18] <Firsti> How I can add some user to some group?
[08:18] <unimatrix9> thats not the case then?
[08:18] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to get that wizard up that starts at the beginning of kde
[08:18] <crimsun> Firsti: adduser $user $group
[08:18] <Firsti> Example "user1" to "group1" ?
[08:18] <crimsun> Firsti: man adduser
[08:18] <oofnik> crimsun: it should, but it doesn't... Mixer attach default error: No such device... that's all it says
[08:18] <Firsti> Ah okay
[08:18] <vince_> unimatrix9, have you tried adding more sources? ----> www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:18] <AvFnx> HermanDE, u didnt have the same problem
[08:18] <Firsti> Tahnks
[08:18] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Well....  I'm not too sure what to say....
[08:18] <unimatrix9> no, but thats the answer i needed i guess
[08:18] <HermanDE> AvFnx, I don't like flash or shockwave to begin with....
[08:18] <crimsun> oofnik: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:18] <AvFnx> HermanDE, oh
[08:19] <vince_> unimatrix9, :)
[08:19] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, What are you looking for?
[08:19] <oofnik> crimsun: --- no soundcards --- uh oh that can't be good
[08:19] <AvFnx> HermanDE, is the a software like dvdshrik in linux
[08:19] <HermanDE> AvFnx, I usually have problems when both the GPL'd and the offical version is installed.....
[08:19] <crimsun> oofnik: lsmod|grep ^snd_emu10k1
[08:20] <HermanDE> AvFnx, What does DVDShark do?
[08:20] <yzero> hey that snot a bad idea.. I could insall the GAG bootloader.
[08:20] <oofnik> crimsun: snd_emu10k1            81668  0
[08:20] <unimatrix9> installing multi media apps, like mplayer (DVD playback) beep (with lame) etc
[08:20] <specialbuddy> doe anyone know how to change between windows settings and mac, unix etc.
[08:20] <unimatrix9> the works
[08:20] <AvFnx> HermanDE, it make a back copy of dvd
[08:20] <albacker> yzero what is the GAG bootloader ?
[08:20] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, Sure...  It is available.....
[08:20] <crimsun> oofnik: give me the lspci -v line for your audigy2
[08:20] <yzero> albacker You can put it on a floppy and just boot off it.. install it
[08:20] <yzero> albacker it will detect all the partitions
[08:21] <AvFnx> HermanDE, it make perfect copy of dvd
[08:21] <albacker> yzero that is better.
[08:21] <yzero> im gonna try it
[08:21] <HermanDE> AvFnx, All versions of UNIX have a tool that can make a bit by bit copy of a DVD....
[08:21] <Firsti> Now "user1" is allowed to go anywhere he wants in my server, I want to he is allower to only his folder: /home/user1/ and he is NOT allowed to go example /home/ or / or something, What I should do?
[08:21] <HermanDE> AvFnx, It is called dd
[08:21] <albacker> and after bootin to ubuntu you can get grub installed. or lilo
[08:21] <albacker> i like grub :D
[08:21] <oofnik> crimsun: 0000:02:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[08:21] <cartel_> HermanDE: have you actually tried dding a dvd or are you just talking out your ass?
[08:21] <HermanDE> Firsti, Setup a jail....
[08:22] <crimsun> oofnik: ok, paste the entire section (for just your audigy2) from lspci -v to #flood
[08:22] <AvFnx> HermanDE, the only reason i use windows is cause that software
[08:22] <HermanDE> cartel_, Yes....  and NO.....  I have dd a dvd..   :)
[08:22] <oofnik> crimsun: done
[08:23] <HermanDE> crimsun, It just sounds good to say that even UNIX can do bit copies of just about anything......
[08:23] <albacker> ok to everyone bye
[08:23] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Ok...  Are you trying to RIP or COPY a DVD?
[08:24] <crimsun> HermanDE: did you mean to address that to cartel_ instead?
[08:24] <AvFnx> HermanDE, copy
[08:24] <HermanDE> crimsun, Yep..  Getting a little loose on the tab comp....
[08:24] <Firsti> What JAil
[08:25] <HermanDE> AvFnx, Doing a proper copy of a DVD and putting it back on a DVD is a complex process.
[08:25] <HermanDE> AvFnx, The common solution is to RIP the video and place it on a DVD in a more portable format.
[08:25] <oofnik> crimson: did you see it?
[08:26] <crimsun> oofnik: yes, and I'm cross-referencing something
[08:26] <unimatrix9> i looked at the sources list
[08:26] <crimsun> oofnik: offhand, do you know the precise model # of your card?
[08:27] <AvFnx> HermanDE, for now......that one the thing linux missing..... windows xp till recently got copple good software
[08:27] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, What did you see in the sources list?
[08:27] <unimatrix9> so if i activate  "universe"i get acces to all tje goodies?
[08:27] <oofnik> crimsun: well, the install disc says audigy 2 value
[08:27] <AvFnx> HermanDE, i guess i going have to wait
[08:27] <oofnik> i'm pretty sure it's the one with the hardware chipset
[08:27] <HermanDE> AvFnx, It is not missing....  It just requires a bit of reading.
[08:27] <unimatrix9> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:27] <unimatrix9> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[08:28] <unimatrix9> these?
[08:28] <ale_> Did ubuntu-dev remove the sun-java-sdk?
[08:28] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, Just another section of stuff..  Then you have multiverse
[08:28] <AvFnx> HermanDE, only need gui most that i tried
[08:28] <HermanDE> AvFnx, If you learn the command line, you will have access to just about anything you could imagine.....
[08:28] <unimatrix9> where do i find multiuniverse? :P
[08:28] <crimsun> oofnik: interesting, because the audigy2 values can be vastly different from audigy2s
[08:29] <unimatrix9> a    i see
[08:29] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, I'm not too sure about the multi-universe.  Must be a string theory thing....
[08:29] <AvFnx> HermanDE, i been using linux 2 years, it was hard @ 1st but it my main os now
[08:29] <unimatrix9> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[08:29] <unimatrix9> there it is
[08:29] <maruchan> anyone use mame
[08:29] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, but multiverse is just another archive....
[08:29] <oofnik> crimsun: yeah, i read a bit about that.. the later being software controlled or something, like a winmodem of sorts
[08:29] <AvFnx> HermanDE, i got say cause ppl like ur self
[08:29] <unimatrix9> you where making a joke, but its really there, right?
[08:30] <crimsun> oofnik: ok, the next thing you need to do is: sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base libasound2
[08:30] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, Yep.....
[08:30] <oofnik> yeah, alright
[08:30] <unimatrix9> okey , i have got the hang if it now..
[08:30] <yzero> doh it didn't work =[
[08:30] <crimsun> oofnik: also, sudo apt-get --reinstall install alsa-utils
[08:30] <HermanDE> yzero, Where are you now?
[08:30] <unimatrix9> thanx for  the input sofar...
[08:30] <yzero> HermanDE, I tried the GAG bootloader
[08:31] <HermanDE> unimatrix9, check out www.apt-get.org and the docs for ubuntu for more apt-get sources...
[08:31] <AvFnx> HermanDE, ima go sleep thank you for ur time
[08:31] <maruchan> does anyone know how to get a gamepad working in mame
[08:31] <HermanDE> yzero, Well, what happened?
[08:32] <oofnik> crimsun: done and done
[08:32] <HrdwrBoB> maruchan: depends on the gamepad
[08:32] <HrdwrBoB> maruchan: read the mame doco
[08:32] <yzero> HermanDE, Something about no sector or invalid sector on the linux partition
[08:32] <ka6sox> can anyone tell me if the AMD64 distro is 64/32 bit libraries or just 64bit?
[08:32] <HermanDE> yzero, I'll bet that grub did not setup properly......
[08:32] <unimatrix9> ok
[08:32] <yzero> Grub is gone out of the mbr
[08:32] <yzero> Its just a normal windows mbr now.. then i installed gag
[08:33] <yzero> didn't work.. so i removed it
[08:33] <HermanDE> yzero,  you need to gain access to the partition and have grub reinstall
[08:33] <yzero> back to windows mbr
[08:33] <unimatrix9> bye, and thanx
[08:33] <crimsun> oofnik: ok, the next thing you're going to try is to compile alsa-source from universe.
[08:33] <HermanDE> yzero, reboot with the cd.  Once the system boots, switch to a different console.....
[08:33] <yzero> grrr I need a blank cd =[
[08:33] <yzero> HermanDE I did try that.. and /dev/hda isn't there
[08:33] <HermanDE> yzero, Then attempt to mount the hard drive...
[08:33] <yzero> so i couldn't mount
[08:33] <crimsun> oofnik: so: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source
[08:33] <HermanDE> yzero, It may not be under /dev/hda it may be under /dev/sda
[08:34] <yzero> oh.
[08:34] <yzero> It is a laptop..;
[08:34] <yzero> is that possible to have sata?
[08:34] <yzero> device manger says its Ultra ATA in windows
[08:34] <HermanDE> yzero, Yes.....  And that could be the reason that grub went for lunch in Tokyo.....
[08:34] <yzero> haha.
[08:35] <yzero> ok let me try.
[08:35] <yzero> brb
[08:35] <oofnik> crimsun: alright, it's doing its stuff
[08:35] <thechitowncubs> Why is the menu structure for gnome so complicated?
[08:35] <thechitowncubs> it should be based off an xml file or something simple in ONE place
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> not .desktop files scattered over god knows where
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> and it should be modifiable by a right clean
[08:36] <thechitowncubs> click
[08:36] <crimsun> heh. Look in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[08:36] <umm> sata sata II sata III ..... steal from SCSI step by syep
[08:36] <oofnik> crimsun: okay, it finished
[08:36] <glDaher> I've added an invisible panel to my gnome... and it is giving an error message, I can't see it to remove it, how do I get to the config file for that?
[08:36] <HrdwrBoB> umm: and make it affordable.
[08:37] <crimsun> oofnik: all right, now: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[08:37] <umm> from 10 years old scsi
[08:37] <crimsun> oofnik: choose "no" to PnP, "yes" to debugging, and choose the emu10k1 driver
[08:38] <thechitowncubs> Is there any reason for the menu to be so damn complicated?
[08:38] <thechitowncubs> hasn't there been discussion about it?
[08:38] <glDaher> also I wanna add an entry to the gnome application menu
[08:38] <oofnik> crimsun: neat.. okay done
[08:38] <HermanDE> thechitowncubs, Yes...  The menu discussion is about 6 years old.....
[08:38] <yzero> HermanDE =[ no sda and I did dmesg >crap then cat crap | more.. no sign of my HD =[