[11:58] <Nick545353533> and when i open them they are like only 4 and not all the system settings
[12:06] <engineer_> Hei! I have ubuntu 12.04 if i go to the updatenmanager it shows that the version 12.10 is ready to be downloaded... I want to upgrade the system to the 14.04 version... If I write in the terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove will it show me that i can upgrade to the 14.04??
[12:07] <elite_> ubuntu is smooth
[12:10] <cfhowlett> engineer_ change your update manager to display LTS releases only.  then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade -p            14.04 should appear available
[12:10] <engineer_> Well... Never mind.... However... I tried to run ubuntu 14.04 from a bootable pendrive... How can i simply remove the ubuntu 12.04 and update it from there?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> engineer_ remove?  no need. install 14.04 to the same partitions and 12.04 will be overwritten
[12:11] <engineer_> Wow... But if I overwrite the system in the same partition of now... Does the dual boot remains still functionally?
[12:12] <engineer_> I have (win+unbu)
[12:13] <cfhowlett> engineer_ yes.  chooose "do something else" during your options and manually select your current partitions.  DO NOT use the first set of options as that will install ubuntu only and wipe everything else
[12:13] <engineer_> Yeah... You're awsome!
[12:15] <cfhowlett> engineer_ of course ... backup ^3
[12:16] <jere> I have followed the instructions here to compile linux kenrel. Everything works well except when I restart the VM, it is taking inordinate amount of time reboot. Is this normal?
[12:16] <jere>  http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/06/compile-linux-kernel/
[12:17] <justaguy> jere: Why are you compiling your own kernel
[12:17] <jere> justaguy: a part of my college assignment.
[12:18] <engineer_> cfhowlett --> i have written sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade -p but it says "command line option 'p' [from -p] in not known"
[12:18] <engineer_> Wtf?
[12:19] <GauravButola> How do I use ng-click with <a> having prevendefault?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> engineer_ sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[12:19] <GauravButola> Oops wrong room, sorry.
[12:20] <engineer_> Wohoho! Sorry!
[12:32] <shiberr> Hello, I have Ubuntu 14.04 on a new laptop from MSI. It has been running fine until today when I realized that it had been using the Intel HD graphics card the whole time instead of the NVIDIA GTX 860m (due to me not having installed an nvidia driver).
[12:32] <shiberr> So I first tested installing nvidia-current, but running lshw -c video , I could see that the NVIDIA card was still "unclaimed".
[12:33] <shiberr> So i downloaded the 340.24 driver from NVIDIAS website and it installled successfully, atleast it said so.
[12:33] <shiberr> When I reboot the computer I get to the login screen and everthing looks nromal, correct resolution etc
[12:34] <shiberr> But when I log in to the desktop, I can only see the background image.
[12:34] <shiberr> And I know that this seems to be a common problem, but I cant get it to work by following the posts found on different forums
[12:35] <shiberr> Is there anyone here who can help me check the different parts to see where the problem lies? THANK YOU!
[12:35] <daftykins> shiberr: that's an nvidia optimus setup, you need to look into nvidia-prime or bumblebee, you can't just install nvidia drivers
[12:35] <pablo> hi guys, can PPA be used to build packages for debian?
[12:35] <pa> what are packages to remove in 14.04? i read that there's some sort of spyware to remove
[12:35] <pa> any link to tutorials?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> pa no spyware.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !ppa | pablo
[12:36] <shiberr> daftykins: thank you I will try nvidia-prime
[12:37] <pa> also another question: what is the package pppoe for? as far as i can see rp-pppoe.so comes with the package ppp..
[12:37] <cfhowlett> pa from terminal:  apt-cache show packagenamehere
[12:38] <pa> i did, and still i don't understand
[12:38] <pablo> cfhowlett: I knowand they are built against a specific ubuntu release
[12:38] <pablo> my question was if it can be built against debian
[12:38] <daftykins> pa: PPPoE or point to point protocol over ethernet is a standard communication or authentication type used to establish broadband connections
[12:38] <saiarcot895> pablo: no, PPAs can't have packages for Debian versions
[12:38] <pablo> saiarcot895: ok :s
[12:39] <pa> daftykins, i know what it is. i don't know what the package "pppoe" is for
[12:39] <daftykins> pa: time for research then.
[12:40] <pa> and, funny thing, it is present in 10.04, 12.04 13.04
[12:40] <pa> but not in the releases in between
[12:40] <pa> daftykins, sure, research. Ubuntu screws up and then users have to "research"
[12:40] <daftykins> pa: giving attitude will not help you here
[12:41] <cfhowlett> pa less attitude = more help.
[12:41] <daftykins> there's an echo in here again
[12:41] <pa> i asked a very simple question, and the help i got was a) misunderstanding my clear question and b) "google for it"
[12:42] <daftykins> pa: you are very welcome to request a refund
[12:42] <djtf> ha ha ha
[12:42] <cfhowlett> pa and yet ... without the attitude you could have DONE the search and found: "what is PPP and PPOE" in the first 3 hits
[12:44]  * cfhowlett wishes "lmgtfy" was permitted ...
[12:44] <pa> *sgrunt*. i know what is ppp and pppoe. do i have to ay it again?
[12:44] <daftykins> nah don't repeat, we've given up
[12:45] <samuraiRM> to?
[12:45] <samuraiRM> posting a photo?
[12:45] <samuraiRM> hi
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !paste | samuraiRM
[12:45] <pa> and by the way, you heroes, by googling you can't find any decent info about the fantastic pppoe package that comes with ubuntu (and possibly debian too)
[12:45] <pa> but hey, it's free, dont complain if it sucks
[12:46] <sonne> trusty still doesn't show up on precise's do-release-upgrade.. i'm puzzled
[12:46]  * dhananja2 ubuntu fails to resume after wake up from sleep mode what can be problem
[12:47] <cfhowlett> sonne yep.  it should.  it doesn't.  you can trigger the upgrade with sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[12:48] <samuraiRM> ubuntu-it
[12:48] <samuraiRM> ?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !it | samuraiRM
[12:48] <saiarcot895> pa: Did you try "dpkg -L pppoe" to see what files it installs?
[12:49] <pa> i did
[12:49] <kahn_> hello
[12:49] <pa> there are some scripts
[12:49] <pa> and a binary "pppoe"
[12:49] <cfhowlett> kahn_ greetings.  ask your ubunt question
[12:49] <Shimpu> p
[12:49] <cfhowlett> Shimpu thanks
[12:50] <kahn_> who use node.js ?
[12:50]  * dhananja2 samuraiRM: can you answer me
[12:50] <kahn_> ???
[12:50] <kahn_> what ?
[12:50] <saiarcot895> dhananja2: Don't use /e
[12:50] <saiarcot895> dhananja2: Don't use /me
[12:50] <kahn_> e
[12:51] <kahn_> oh
[12:51] <dhananja2> hello
[12:52] <pablo> /leave/leave
[12:52] <cfhowlett> dhananja2 ask your ubuntu question
[12:52] <dhananja2> ubuntu fails to resume or wakeup from sleep mode
[12:55] <samuraiRM> !list
[12:56] <samuraiRM> come
[12:56] <IceBot3000> That messing is daft, !list does not inherently imply "warez"
[12:56] <IceBot3000> *message
[12:56] <daftykins> IceBot3000: you're welcome to discuss your opinion of the bot triggers in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:56] <hucksy> !list porn
[12:57] <IceBot3000> daftykins: I'll discuss them here, but thanks
[12:57] <daftykins> no you won't
[12:57] <IceBot3000> This is like pantomime
[12:58] <sunnymolini> What you guys use for a mail client, if any?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sunnymolini: gmail web UI
[12:59] <hucksy> thunderbird
[12:59] <michael86> hello
[13:00] <sunnymolini> michael86, hello indeed
[13:00] <michael86> :)
[13:02] <kahn_> are you from china ?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> kahn_ let's stay on topic: ubuntu support.  what is your issue?
[13:06] <shiberr> daftykins: I have now installed nvida-prime and nvidia-331. This works and I did install a shortcut to switch between the Intel HD and Nvidia 860m. But as it is right now the Intel is much better perfomance
[13:06] <shiberr> daftkins: glxgears for Intel reports much higher FPS and the system UI is more smooth
[13:06] <shiberr> daftkins: Did I do something wrong?
[13:07] <daftykins> shiberr: no idea... nvidia-prime isn't quite as refined as bumblebee i think but it'll get there. glxgears isn't really the best of tests though
[13:14] <Yevgeny> Hello
[13:14] <Yevgeny> anyone knows what Rancid is?
[13:14] <daftykins> a punk band i believe
[13:15] <Yevgeny> well I try to setup Rancid (network management tool) but i get stuck
[13:16] <acetakwas> hello, class started yet?
[13:16] <Yevgeny> I come to the point where i type in the "./bin/rancid-cvs" command but it can't find the command
[13:16] <acetakwas> sorry, wrong channel
[13:16] <Yevgeny> what channel can help me?
[13:17] <Mathisen> its okej acetakwas no class today, You get the day free :)
[13:17] <p014k_> If I have a list of commands that I've generated via the command line, I usually do something like > cmd;chmod +x cmd;./cmd;rm cmd Is there anyway to streamline this by piping it into something, perhaps xargs with some flag?
[13:17] <SlaS> heyo
[13:17] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: I take it you checked that you are in the right directory, and that "./bin/rancid-cvs" has executable permissions?
[13:18] <compdoc> Yevgeny, search the drive for rancid
[13:18] <Yevgeny> I am in the directory
[13:19] <Yevgeny> but it doesn't find the rancid in the bin directory
[13:19] <Yevgeny> But rancid is installed
[13:20] <loa> if there any qay to notice throttling using system tools?
[13:20] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: If rancid is installed in the standard directories, you should just be able to do "rancid-cvs"
[13:20] <loa> i think i have thermal problems on my system.
[13:20] <loa> whe i am playing game
[13:20] <walid> hei! how can i attach a link to a photo here?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !paste | walid
[13:21] <Yevgeny> saiarcot895: it says /usr/local/rancid/bin/rancid-cvs: line 107: svnadmin: command not found
[13:21] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: so your real issue is that svnadmin is not found
[13:22] <Yevgeny> saiarcot895: yeah but why does it try to use svnadmin?
[13:22] <Yevgeny> where can I check this line 107?
[13:22] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: if you want to explore a bit, open /usr/local/rancid/bin/rancid-cvs in a text editor and go to line 107
[13:22] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: this file is likely just a shell script
[13:22] <Yevgeny> saiarcot895: thanks man
[13:23] <walid> well... i have a dual boot pc with win+ubu12.04 and I want to reistall it from a boot pc
[13:23] <walid> http://i.imgur.com/kcwL3LR.png
[13:23] <walid> this is the screenshot of gparted
[13:23] <walid> if i can... to mantain the dual boot i have to install in the sd6 partition?
[13:23] <Yevgeny> saiarcot895: the line in the script is: svnadmin create $CVSROOT --fs-type fsfs
[13:24] <cfhowlett> walid just use the ubuntu partitions you have at present
[13:24] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: look at the lines before and/or after it, see if there are any comments, or if you can decipher what's going on.
[13:24] <saiarcot895> Yevgeny: I have to go offline, so I can't help you further with this.
[13:24] <walid> yah but i am afraid....
[13:25] <Yevgeny> saiarcot895: thanks man
[13:25] <Yevgeny> saiarcot895: you've been helpful=)
[13:26] <walid> if i select to install the new one on the sda6 partition does it maintain the dual boot without destroying windows?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> walid so long as you don't install to the windows partition, windows will remain
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> walid: the dual boot will be seen, just delete the partitions you don't need after a final backup and then install to the freed space
[13:28] <matej_> hey, I made a bubu in my ubuntu
[13:28] <matej_>  i was chowning a dir and I used /* instead of *
[13:28] <matej_>  (thank good it wasn't -R)
[13:28] <walid> well... i'm stil afraid... so the grub doesn't crash?
[13:28] <Giant81> has anyone else had any luck getting the ubuntu one downloader?
[13:28] <Giant81> every time I hit the link it re-directs me to their shutdown notification
[13:29] <matej_> can anyone post me his "ll /"
[13:29] <geirha> matej_: well, the fix is easy, they should all be owned by root
[13:29] <matej_> are all the folders root:root?
[13:29] <geirha> matej_: yup
[13:29] <matej_> ok, just wanted to make sure
[13:29] <matej_> thanks
[13:30] <loltest> m
[13:31] <acetakwas> Mathisen, lol thanks. Are you on #dgplug as well
[13:31] <acetakwas> Mathisen, lol thanks. Are you on #dgplug as well?
[13:32] <acetakwas> (^v^)
[13:32]  * acetakwas <^V^>
[13:32]  * acetakwas <^v^>
[13:33] <k1l> acetakwas: we try to keep this channel clear for tehcnical support. for chatter we got #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:33] <acetakwas> okay, mistake
[13:35] <acetakwas> SWAP not mounting at startup. Can I get help?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !swap
[13:38] <k1l> acetakwas: is it put into fstab?
[13:38] <k1l> what does dmesg give?
[13:38] <compdoc> acetakwas, you might need to activate it, although Ive never seen it turn itself off
[13:39] <djtf> acetakwas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1418714
[13:41] <walid> well i have this http://postimg.org/image/m4btsirsj/
[13:42] <compdoc> wow
[13:42] <walid> If i install ubuntu 14.04 in sdb6 would the dual boot still remain unvariated
[13:42] <walid> ?
[13:43] <walid> I want to delete ubuntu12.04 and change it with 14.04
[13:43] <cfhowlett> walid should be good but ... as always ... backups ^2
[13:43] <cfhowlett> walid this isn't windows!  you do NOT need to delele.  format sdb6 when you install
[13:44] <k1l> walid: the install should offer a "replace the ubuntu install with the new ubuntu" setting
[13:44] <walid> "Should" means that you don't know if windows will say to me "bye bye"?
[13:44] <walid> No!
[13:44] <cfhowlett> walid again ... if you don't touch windows, windows is still there.
[13:45] <walid> So cfhowlett you are sure sure sure sure that the boot (and windows) remain invariates?
[13:45] <Giant81> Anyone had trouble getting the ubuntu one downloader downloaded?  every time I hit the link it's redirecting me to the shutdown notification page
[13:46] <walid> *d
[13:46] <daftykins> walid: once you've backed up it won't matter
[13:46] <Giant81> I know i'ts getting shutdown, I just want to get my stuff downloaded by the 31st before it gets shut down
[13:47] <walid> This is what i can see http://postimg.org/image/reqfuiuu1/
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Giant81: you mean the script?
[13:47] <compdoc> Giant81, might install an older version of ubuntu in a vm
[13:47] <cfhowlett> walid well, it's only worked the last 3 times for me so ... yes.  win7 and ubuntustudio since 2010
[13:47] <IceBot3000> Ubuntu One is history
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Giant81: the one on Omg!Ubuntu!
[13:47] <Giant81> I know it's history, I want to get my stuff off it before it's deleted
[13:47] <IceBot3000> I think it's too late
[13:47] <IceBot3000> The plug has been pulled
[13:47] <walid> So at that time you choosed as me?
[13:47] <Giant81> they said we have till the 31st
[13:48] <Giant81> https://one.ubuntu.com/shutdown/
[13:48] <Giant81> and I can get to everything by the old legacy access at the bottom, but I'd rather use the download all app
[13:48] <IceBot3000> They didn't give people much warning :S
[13:49] <daftykins> Giant81: wget the script from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/U1/Downloader/Linux/How_to_Use
[13:49] <k1l> IceBot3000: they did. all users were emailed
[13:49] <Giant81> daftykins, the downloadlink on that page redirects to the above shutdown page
[13:49] <IceBot3000> k1l: A few months isn't long
[13:49] <daftykins> Giant81: are you logged in?
[13:50] <daftykins> Giant81: you're aware i said wget it and not click it, yes?
[13:50] <Giant81> I figure wget follows redirects no?
[13:50] <Giant81> there would be little difference in wget vs clicking it but I'll try
[13:50] <daftykins> Giant81: you shall be surprised
[13:51] <Giant81> that and I'm trying from windows, let me fire up my laptop
[13:51] <daftykins> i'm on Windows and clicking downloads
[13:51] <Giant81> let me try a different browser
[13:52] <Giant81> ahhh there we go
[13:52] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/U1/Downloader/Windows/How_to_Use  Giant81
[13:52] <Giant81> I've been trying ot 3 days wiht chrome, it would just re-direct
[13:52] <Giant81> hit it wiht firefox.... works perfect
[13:52] <k1l> download for windows downloader works here
[13:52] <walid> cfhowlett you did the same thing I'm doing right now?
[13:52] <walid> cfhowlett you did the same thing I'm doing right now?
[13:53] <walid> While installing ubu?
[13:54] <walid> Pleease! Then i won't brake your balls anymore!
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|walid notice how you keep getting the same answer to the same question?
[13:55] <walid> Well! Thanks!
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Giant81: cd $HOME; wget http://ubuntuone.com/u1-downloader/u1-downloader-win.zip; unzip u1-downloader-win.zip
[13:57] <Giant81> ActionParsnip, it's already downloading my files
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Giant81: coolio englasias
[13:58] <Giant81> my problem was that chrome was not downloading the file, it would re-direct to the shutdown notification page
[13:58] <Giant81> I thought it was the page that was broken, but it was my brower
[13:58] <Giant81> *browser
[13:58] <daftykins> probably more likely your browser cache
[13:58] <Giant81> I've noticed that a bit more lately with chrome
[13:59] <amireldor> I need some clarification regarding lsusb and the USB hardware *clears throat*:
[13:59] <Giant81> another quick question
[14:00] <Giant81> I have a server with an LSI MegaRAID SAS controller and a mirrored volume on it, when trying to install Xubuntu it can see the controller
[14:00] <amireldor> If I got a sole 4 port USB/PCI card on my machine, and `lsusb` shows me 4 "root hubs"; when I connect e.g. a USB storage device, what am I supposed to see now on `lsusb`
[14:00] <Giant81> but it cannot see any discs.... I know the volumes exist as they currently have windows installed and working on them
[14:01] <daftykins> Giant81: no module loaded for the controller though perhaps
[14:01] <Giant81> lsmod shows the megaraid driver is loaded
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Giant81: if you use parted or fdisk, can you see the disks there?
[14:02] <Giant81> ActionParsnip, no, I launched the live disk and qtparted was not able to see any partitions
[14:02] <Giant81> or any discs
[14:03] <Giant81> I'll have to do a bit more digging, maybe it is not an LSI MegaRAID SAS card, but only being misidentified as one
[14:04] <Giant81> thus the driver isn't working.  let me boot it in windows and do a bit more digging on the exact model number and go from there
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Giant81: if you run:  sudo parted -l; sudo fdisk -l    do you see them?
[14:05] <Giant81> ActionParsnip, checking
[14:15] <Rukh> does anyone know how to use sed?
[14:16] <SirLagz> Rukh: ##sed does
[14:16] <Rukh> oh, thanks
[14:20] <TeraJL> can someone test if this happens to you too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1349436 , or if anyone know a workaround? it's a simple shortcut but i use it allot
[14:29] <Giant81> ActionParsnip, both return nothing
[14:30] <Giant81> lspci shows me an LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 1078
[14:31] <Giant81> and lsmod shows me megaraid_sas
[14:32] <Giant81> and according to http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/LSIMegaRAIDSAS that's the right driver
[14:33] <qwebirc4840> does anybody know if when i run sudo mv on a folder it changes the permissions for that folder?
[14:34] <djtf> qwebirc4840, http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/72922/moving-a-folder-with-sudo-mv-how-to-preserve-acls
[14:34] <reisio> qwebirc4840: rsync with -p, or cp with -p
[14:34] <tsuyoshi_> ho
[14:35] <reisio> tsuyoshi_: ho
[14:35] <djtf> grabbed the wrong link, reisio is right
[14:35] <reisio> no your link covers that, too
[14:36] <tsuyoshi_> can everyone explain me how i can download wine
[14:36] <reisio> cp -p anyways
[14:36] <reisio> tsuyoshi_: sudo apt-get install wine
[14:36] <tsuyoshi_> thx
[14:36] <reisio> tsuyoshi_: or open software center and search for 'wine'
[14:36] <tsuyoshi_> ok thx
[14:36] <reisio> ok npx
[14:38] <Lunario> hey, so, I have this ubuntu program which does not have rights to create a directory on an ntfs partition on my hdd. I tried to give it writing rights but that doesnt work via nautilus (changes are not accepted). How can I get writing rights on it?
[14:38] <reisio> Lunario: how'd you mount the partition?
[14:39] <garrettkajmowicz> Greetings! I'm running 12.04.4 LTS and looking to upgrade to 14.04.1. I've run aptitude/update, and now running do-release-upgrade shows no new releases available. How do I get this to work?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> garrettkajmowicz sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[14:40] <Lunario> reisio: with this line in fstab I think (hope its correct): /dev/sda5       /media/data            ntfs-3g           defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[14:40] <garrettkajmowicz> cfhowlett: It's doing something different from before; this is a good sign.
[14:41] <djtf> garrettkajmowicz: sudo update-manager -d, then wait for the update manager app to load?
[14:41] <cfhowlett> garrettkajmowicz watch the terminal - it should reflect "trusty" sources ...
[14:41] <reisio> Lunario: you probably need to alter the 3rd-to-last field to change the mount user perms
[14:42] <Lunario> In how far alter it?
[14:42] <erryIsGay> HEY
[14:42] <erryIsGay> METALEER IS A PEDOPHILE HE BONES ERRY
[14:42] <reisio> erryIsGay: that's far out
[14:43] <qwebirc4840> reisio: is it cp -p with any parameters or just normal
[14:43] <qwebirc4840> thanks
[14:43] <reisio> qwebirc4840: try cp -p foo bar
[14:43] <reisio> if that doesn't work try with -a
[14:43] <garrettkajmowicz> Working fine now. Thanks!
[14:45] <qwebirc4840> reisio: its a folder with subfolders so i add -r as well right?
[14:47] <qwebirc4840> reisio: sadly it didn't work for me, what was this supposed to do? (-:
[14:47] <reisio> qwebirc4840: what, cp?
[14:48] <mjuszcza1> How do I up the debian package version using debuild?  Trying to upload to launchpad and it's failing saying the package already exists but the source is different.  I don't want to change the version of the package but did have to rebuild it with different debian/ sources.
[14:48] <erry> welp
[14:48] <erry> http://errietta.me/paste/view.php?id=468
[14:49] <erry> oh, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-show-versions
[14:52] <sdgsdgsd> /dns atlantis.home.nivex.net
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !find apt-show-versions
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> erry: sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions
[14:52] <erry> ActionParsnip, ..i can't install anything
[14:53] <erry> it just dies with no output
[14:53] <erry> also exit code 139
[14:53] <qwebirc4840> reisio: yea, whats the effect of -p or -a on co
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> erry: can you use dpkg on the deb manually, rather than apt-get ?
[14:54] <reisio> qwebirc4840: preserving permissions...
[14:54] <erry> ActionParsnip, is it possible to fix my apt-get? that's my actual problem not apt-show-versions
[14:54] <erry> i removed that file and now update doesn't segfault
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> erry: what is the output of:  uname -m
[14:55] <erry> but installing doesn't do anything ;;
[14:55] <erry> x86_64
[14:55] <erry> x86_64
[14:55] <erry> oops.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> erry: wget http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/apt-show-versions/apt-show-versions_0.22.3_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./apt-show-versions_0.22.3_all.deb
[14:56] <erry> ActionParsnip, i get a segfault,m then get  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 139
[14:56] <erry> so i can't tpkg
[14:58] <zijan> woo
[14:58] <reisio> woohar
[15:00] <erry> i haven't ran upt-get in a while before this
[15:00] <erry> oh, rebooting fixes it.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> erry: yey
[15:18] <roeijac> g
[15:18] <roeijac> oops sry
[15:23] <roeijac> hey, still new to unix, what's the command for uninstalling?
[15:23] <k1l> sudo apt-get remove package
[15:23] <k1l> !apt | roeijac
[15:24] <roeijac> k1l: thanks
[15:24] <yz3pD> what is the difference between apt-get remove and apt-get purge?
[15:25] <cfhowlett_> yz3pD I believe also kills the .configuration files
[15:25] <k1l> yz3pD: purge removes alle config files mentioned in that package. see the link from the bot for more details
[15:25] <usr13>  purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and  purged (any configuration files are deleted too).
[15:26] <usr13> yz3pD: ^^^
[15:26] <ubu> Guys... Oh my gosh... My computer don't recon the grub
[15:26] <ubu> Unknown filesystem
[15:26] <ubu> Grub rescue
[15:26] <ubu> Wtf
[15:26] <ubu> How to repair it??
[15:26] <k1l> ubu: what did you do vbefore that?
[15:27] <ubu> I installed ubuntu 14.04 on the partition of 12.04
[15:27] <usr13> !grub | ubu
[15:27] <k1l> use boot repair to get grub sorted
[15:27] <cfhowlett_> ubu how exactly did you perform this installation?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> ubottu: I'd use the omgubuntu guide "sticking it to grub" to reinstate grub
[15:28] <ubu> http://postimg.org/image/9oj5o4ot3/
[15:28] <ubu> I did this
[15:28] <chicognu> there is a user called remote access on ubutu know by default ?
[15:28] <k1l> ubu: and changing nicknames all the time doesnt help the helpers to know the situation
[15:28] <chicognu> there is a user called remote access on ubutu now by default ?
[15:29] <ubu> Oh sorry, but right now i'm really afraid....
[15:29] <chicognu> nobody ?
[15:29] <ubu> I have my hands wet...   (Tell us.)
[15:30] <ubu> Installed ubuntu 14.04 on the partition of ubuntu12.04
[15:30] <ubu> All data and files of windows are ok, I can see them by the live of ubuntu
[15:31] <ubu> There is also all files of ubuntu 14.04 in the right partition
[15:31] <ubu> There *are
[15:31] <usr13> ubu: As opposed to doing the distribution upgrade, you did a fresh install.  Ok we got that part.....
[15:32] <ubu> What? Is there any way to reinstall the grub??
[15:32] <usr13> ubu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:32] <dunpeal> Hi. What is the name of the service / process which automatically checks for updates and prompts me to install them?
[15:32] <ubu> Please! Let me have a good night tonight!
[15:34] <ubu> why "after installing windows"? Is the guide really for my case?
[15:34] <cfhowlett_> ubu *slap* calm the heck down.  people are trying to help you.  hysteria will NOT help.
[15:34] <usr13> dunpeal: update-manager
[15:35] <usr13> dunpeal: Correction:  update-notifier
[15:35] <IdleOne> ubu: because it is/was the most common reason for needing to reinstall grub
[15:35] <IdleOne> just follow the guide and you will be fine
[15:36] <ubu> Wait.... I post a photo....
[15:36] <usr13> ubu: .... in other words, it is the same procedure.
[15:36] <usr13> ubu: Are you still in the install process?
[15:36] <ubu> http://postimg.org/image/qdw7so4st/
[15:37] <ubu> Following the guide... I have to install it in the sda1?
[15:37] <weeb1e> Hello everyone
[15:38] <dunpeal> usr13: thanks, but I just got prmpted for updates, yet `ps aux | grep update` shows nothing?
[15:38] <ubu> That is sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 ?
[15:38] <cfhowlett_> ubu do you have more than one HDD?  SSD?
[15:38] <ubu> No, only one hdd!
[15:38] <weeb1e> I am trying to install cacti on the latest ubuntu server LTS, but everytime I use apt-get, it installs apache2 as well. If I remove apache2, it removes cacti. How can I install cacti without apache2?
[15:38] <cfhowlett_> ubu sdb not sda ...
[15:39] <cfhowlett_> !server | weeb1e
[15:39] <k1l> ubu: please pastebin a "sudo fdisk -l" to let us see
[15:39] <weeb1e> cfhowlett_: This isn't all that specific to server, and ubuntu is ubuntu
[15:39] <usr13> ubu: sda  not sda1
[15:39] <ubu> Why??
[15:39] <ubu> In sd1 there is ubuntu
[15:39] <weeb1e> My question is specific to apt-get more than anything
[15:39] <ubu> Look at the photo!
[15:40] <k1l> !paste | ubu put a "sudo fdisk -l " in there please
[15:40] <usr13> ubu:  Because you want to write your boot manager to the MBR of the drive you boot to, (which more-than-likely is sda).
[15:41] <usr13> ubu: Does your computer boot sda or sdb?
[15:41] <usr13> ubu: Show us the full output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:42] <usr13> ubu: Or  "sudo fdisk -l sda"
[15:42] <ubu> Wait
[15:42] <genii> weeb1e: Since cacti requires some web server, when you install it, the default httpd if nothing exists already, is apache2. If you have some other one already installed, like for instance lighttpd or nginx  or so on, it should be able use that instead.
[15:42] <weeb1e> genii: It seems to install apache2 anyway, I already have nginx installed. But I will try install lighttpd and see if that stops apache from installing
[15:43] <reisio> huh?
[15:43] <reisio> might look into no-recommends
[15:43] <usr13> ubu: In the last image you showed us, we say that sda1 was labeld as "UBUNTU14_04"
[15:44] <usr13> *see*  (not say)
[15:44] <ubu> paste.ubuntu.com/7885853
[15:44] <weeb1e> genii: Even with lighttpd and nginx installed, it says "The following extra packages will be installed:  apache2 libapache2-mod-php5"
[15:44] <ubu> Here we are
[15:44] <k1l> sda is your usb drive. that doesnt need the grub. its sdb
[15:45] <ubu> See the paste.ubuntu.com/7885853
[15:45] <weeb1e> This is so damn frustrating, why won't apache just stay the hell away from my machine
[15:45] <k1l> ubu:  sda is your usb drive. that doesnt need the grub. its sdb
[15:45] <usr13> ubu: Ok, well we don't have a clear idea as to what you are doing or what you have done so it will be hard to give you specific advise.
[15:46] <ubu> Ok, please, help me! What I have to do? I have never been so stressed as right now!
[15:46] <weeb1e> It seems like I may have to compile cacti from source rather than using apt-get, since apt-get will not stop installing apache2 no matter what
[15:46] <usr13> ubu: What exactly is your goal?
[15:46] <ubu> Have you seen the photo?? paste.ubuntu.com/7885853
[15:47] <k1l> ubu: work with the linked repair howto. use sdb as target for the grub
[15:47] <ubu> To start my computer normally
[15:47] <usr13> ubu: Yes I'm looking at it now, and so are others.
[15:47] <k1l> ubu: you were given plenty of advises, but you dont seem to read them at all.
[15:47] <cfhowlett_> ubu you REALLY need to calm down.  Seriously.
[15:47] <usr13> k1l: sdb ?
[15:47] <weeb1e> Does no one know of a way of removing apt packages without removing things that depend on them? I really need to remove goddamn apache
[15:47] <ubu> I read all of them
[15:48] <k1l> usr13: yes, sda is the usb drive of the live system
[15:48] <ubu> So? Assume I'm calm... Would you please tell me what I have to write im the prompt?
[15:48] <cfhowlett_> ubu more than likely, your OS is properly installed but grub is confused.  repairing/reinstalling grub to sdb should fix that
[15:49] <k1l> ubu: the linked grub repair already explained all to you.
[15:49] <usr13> k1l: Oh I see.
[15:49] <ubu> So i have to sudo grub-install /dev/sdb?
[15:49] <k1l> ubu: does the howto say so?
[15:50] <weeb1e> There are multiple bug reports like this, saying the apache2 dependency of cacti was fixed like 5 years ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cacti/+bug/217591
[15:50] <ubu> You don't understand i'm completely frustrated!
[15:50] <weeb1e> Yet I'm using the latest ubuntu server LTS, and it is definitely not fixed
[15:51] <ubu> So... Sudo grub-install /dev/sdb is ok?
[15:51] <cfhowlett_> ubu no excuse not to read the tutorial which explains in great detail what you need to do.
[15:51] <k1l> ubu: we try to help you to help yourself. but you are not listening and repeat the same questions. that is annoying to the volunteers that try to help
[15:51] <weeb1e> So the only workaround seems to be, to find a way of leaving apache2 installed, but disabling it completely
[15:51] <cfhowlett_> ubu correct
[15:51] <genii> weeb1e: Please watch the profanity, we want this channel to be family-friendly!  ... Something else you could try is to download the deb file, open it and change the apache dependency to nginx ( or just remove it entirely), repack the deb and then install that instead of the stock one from the repos.
[15:52] <ubu> Why i am not preaaty sure of what i'm going to do?
[15:52] <cfhowlett_> weeb1e or compile the package you want from source ...
[15:52] <PsiloX> I have troubles upgrading from 12.10  to 14.04. The wiki says go from 12.10 to 13.04 to ... Apt throws me an error because 13.10 is also eol.. Can I stil upgrade, or am I forced to do a clean install now?
[15:52] <cfhowlett_> ubu why are you asking us about your feelings?  not an ubuntu issue ...
[15:52] <weeb1e> genii: That sounds like more of a pain than just disabling apache2 from starting
[15:52] <weeb1e> But thanks
[15:52] <k1l> !eol | PsiloX
[15:52] <ubu> And if after this procedure the computer won't to read the bootable pendrive too?
[15:52] <ubu> i am completely fucked?
[15:53] <k1l> PsiloX: but honestly: i would make a 14.04 reinstall since its way faster as to do 3 upgrades
[15:53] <cfhowlett_> ubu stop the profanity immediately.  You KNOW better.
[15:53] <usr13> ubu: Watch the language.... It will not effect your computer's ability to read a flash drive.
[15:53] <cfhowlett_> !eolupgrade | PsiloX but 14.04 clean install would be way less painful
[15:53] <PsiloX> i dont know, i f i have to configure everything from zero, i would rather try another distro ;P
[15:53] <ruediger> hi
[15:53] <PsiloX> but thx for the info
[15:54] <cfhowlett_> !ask | ruediger
[15:54] <k1l> PsiloX: if you want to stay on one release for ling time go with a LTS in the first place.
[15:54] <cfhowlett_> PsiloX this ^^^ 14.04 is LTS
[15:54] <ruediger> I'm a bit confused with upstart.  It seems upstart manages the gpg-agent as well.  But I don't know where I can find the init conf for it (It's not in /etc/init)
[15:55] <ubu> I have an error!
[15:55] <PsiloX> yeah,but my ASUS zenbook didnt want to accept 12.04 at the time, i was forced to 12.10 to get evrything working, the pain of cutting edge ..
[15:56] <ubu> It says "failed to get canonical path of '/cow'
[15:56] <usr13> ubu: What command generated the error?
[15:57] <usr13> ruediger: Upstart is a process management daemon
[15:57] <ubu> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[15:57] <ruediger> usr13: I know
[15:57] <usr13> ruediger: So what is your question.
[15:57] <usr13> ?
[15:57] <ubu> Why?
[15:58] <cfhowlett_> ubu paste the output
[15:58] <cfhowlett_> and the command
[15:58] <ruediger> usr13: I just want to know where the .conf script for the gpg-agent is and when it is exactly started.  I assume it is session based (session init)
[15:58] <robairt> javascript on chrome is messing up. good thing for Chromium
[15:59] <ubu> paste.ubuntu.com/7885957
[16:00] <ubu> :'(
[16:00] <ubu> I'm going to cry...
[16:00] <ubu> Ffffffuuuu!!!!
[16:00] <cfhowlett_> !grub-repair
[16:01] <robairt> did ubuntu just call you a cow?
[16:01] <vexati0n_> so .. not to be a debbie downer, but is Ubuntu *ever* going to let me use multiple monitors without screen tearing on any of them ?
[16:01] <ubu> maybe... Maybe ubuntu hate me..
[16:01] <ruediger> usr13: I thought all the conf files are in /etc/init/ but it seems that's only for system jobs and not for session jobs
[16:01] <robairt> Mine does not screen tear?
[16:02] <cfhowlett_> !bootrepair
[16:02] <cfhowlett_> !info bootrepair
[16:03] <k1l> ubu: did you chroot into the ubuntu install?
[16:03] <ruediger> usr13: oh, found it.  It's in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/ I kinda skipped over it while reading the docs :/
[16:03] <genii> !fixboot
[16:03] <ubu> No, i started the usb... And then the disaster....
[16:04]  * genii smacks ubottu
[16:05] <k1l> ubu: best for you seems to be to use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:06] <cfhowlett_> agreed ^^^
[16:06]  * cfhowlett_ wonders where the boot-repair factoid is hiding
[16:06] <ubu> Hooo... This is not simple
[16:07] <genii> cfhowlett_: I think now that it's likely !fixmbr
[16:07] <cfhowlett_> genii hmm.  ok - but if he's running uefi ... that's not mbr ... right?
[16:07] <genii> Yep
[16:08] <genii> !efi
[16:13] <ubu> Well! Installed the boot repair
[16:14] <ubu> Now, i click on recommended repair?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> ubu: when you installed 14.04, did you remove 12.04 or did you tell it to upgrade the standing OS?
[16:15] <ubu> No, i formatted the disk and installed the new one
[16:15] <ubu> Well... So?
[16:15] <ubu> Recommended or advanced option?
[16:16] <cfhowlett_> ubu recommended
[16:17] <ubu> Well.. It is reparing
[16:19] <ubu> I promise that if all the process will succed.. I will never touch anymore my system!
[16:20] <ubu> It say paste.ubuntu.com/7886115
[16:20] <ubu> And says that all is well...
[16:20] <ubu> A wuby file (corrupped) was found....
[16:21] <cfhowlett_> ubu oh hell.  this is a WUBI?!!!  bad idea.  bad BAD idea.  and ... no longer supported.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> ubu: oh did you use wubi?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> ubu: wubi hasnt been developed for 2 years. It's dead
[16:23] <k1l> i thought the linux partitions were ubuntu ones, but they are arch linux ones. so it was a wubi installation?
[16:23] <k1l> ubu: ^
[16:23] <ubu> Noooo.... I used wubi maaany yeeears ago
[16:23] <ubu> *months
[16:23] <k1l> ubu: was the ubuntu install a wubi install? yes or no
[16:24] <ubu> This installation no
[16:24] <ubu> The installation of the 12.04 yes
[16:25] <cfhowlett_> ubu here's the test: reboot
[16:25] <k1l> ubu: that are _important_ details you need to tell the ones that help you.....
[16:25] <ubu> GUYS I THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY MUCH!  Can I uninstall wubi?
[16:26] <ubu> Sorry, but I thought wubi has never been useful at all...
[16:26] <cfhowlett_> ubu have you rebooted to test your system?  are you reading this message now?  read it in the voice of Morgan Freeman or God.  REBOOT
[16:26] <ubu> Now windows is scanning...
[16:27] <ubu> The computer showed me the grub! :)
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> ubu  did you install ubuntu from within windows?
[16:28] <ubu> The first time... yyyes.
[16:28] <usr13> ubu: It's working now?
[16:29] <ubu> Now.... Can i uninstall wubi, when i return to windows?
[16:29] <usr13> ubu: Why?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ubu: yes, use Programs and Features
[16:29] <ubu> Of course it will show me 100 system errors...
[16:29] <usr13> ubu: Did you fix your grub issue?
[16:30] <ubu> Yaaaa!! I... Well actually YOU fixed the problem!
[16:30] <cfhowlett_> ubu you might want to test your ubuntu boot
[16:30] <ubu> Hhohohoho!!!! Noww i'll test it..... Only one sec
[16:30] <ubu> But, if now I uninstall wubi what will happen?
[16:31] <usr13> ubu: Was just looking at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7886115/ and one problem I see is that sda7 is designated as swap in your fstab file, yet the filesystem ID is 83 (82 is swap, not 83).
[16:32] <usr13> ubu: Just do not see a real good reason to install wubi if you already have a working Ubuntu install. (wubi is not that great in my opinion, a regular Ubuntu install is much better).
[16:32] <ubu> I don't know.... Now i log in ubuntu... Just a sec
[16:33] <ubu> In fact now i did the "classic" installation... :)
[16:34] <ubu> But if now i delete wubi....  It's working veeery weel!
[16:35] <ubu> Well
[16:36]  * cfhowlett_ pops corks, sprays champagne over the team and says "good night".
[16:37] <usr13> ubu: Enjoy your new OS
[16:37] <ubu> Thank you!
[16:37] <ubu> I love you guys!
[16:39] <ubu> I'll never modify my oss
[16:40] <msp3k1> Hi, I need some help.  When some of my users log in, they get the Ubuntu desktop background but no panel and no desktop icons.  This only affects certain users, and it follows them from one machine to another (we user autofs and ldap).  The users' ~/xsession-errors is empty, and as far as I can tell, there's nothing out of the ordinary in /var/log/lightdm/*.log.  In an act of desperation, I tried wiping a user's home area and re-creating it from scratch and
[16:40] <reisio> famous last words
[16:41] <reisio> msp3k1: ...and?
[16:41] <reisio> 'from scratch and'... ?
[16:41] <msp3k1> Did it not print the whole line?
[16:41] <reisio> indeed
[16:42] <reisio> it was quite long-winded
[16:42] <msp3k1> In an act of desperation, I tried wiping a user's home area and re-creating it from scratch and I get the same results.
[16:42] <reisio> msp3k1: how'd you wipe it, exactly?
[16:43] <giorgiodinapoli> guys, any hardcore iptables freak here? our problem loging rule applied in normal mode. using netns, nothing is logged to kernel-log"!!
[16:44] <reisio> giorgiodinapoli: #netfilter
[16:47] <thebishop> is anyone else seeing a black screen when accessing google maps through Chrome?  I'm guessing this is a webGL issue.  It works fine in Firefox.  I have a radeon gpu using the open source driver
[16:48] <msp3k1> I did the following: mv username username.old ; cp -ar /etc/skel . ; mv skel username ; chown username:username username
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> msp3k1: wont you need chown -r
[16:49] <msp3k1> Yes, sorry: chown -R username:username username
[16:49] <msp3k1> The user can log in on tty1 just fine, but not X11
[16:50] <DJones> thebishop: I'm not affected by that (using chromium rather than chrome) but have seen it mentioned on twitter https://twitter.com/ruskin147/status/493798158401818624
[16:55] <msp3k1> Any idea what I should check next?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> msp3k1: does the system have ~/.XAuthority ?
[16:57] <reisio> msp3k1: you moved the home dir from within /home/ ?
[16:57] <msp3k1> After re-creating the user's home area there is no ~/.Xauthority.  After trying to log in, yes, there is an ~/.Xauthority file.  I've tried deleting it and logging in again, but I get the same results.
[16:57] <msp3k1> Yes.  Home areas physically reside on machine:/export/[a-z]/home, and are auto-mounted to /home/.
[16:58] <reisio> I don't like how you give a lot more information than what I asked for :p
[16:58] <reisio> you were in the directory with the home dirs, and you moved one, yes?
[16:59] <msp3k1> I was in /export/a/home on the machine where the user's home area lives, yes.
[16:59] <reisio> k
[17:00] <msp3k1> The user can log in on tty1 just fine, so their home area is being mounted to /home/ correctly.
[17:00] <reisio> msp3k1: try copying a working home dir and chown -R'ing it to the correct user, just for giggles
[17:00] <reisio> sounds like maybe the session just isn't starting the correct apps
[17:02] <msp3k1> Doing it now.
[17:05] <svenx> i have a background task (automatic SD-card sync based on udev rules), that i'd like to show sync status on the desktop. i used to use the beep(1) program to beep the pc speaker every 5 sec, but my new computer doesn't have one.
[17:05] <svenx> is there a super easy, shell-scriptable way to make an icon in the task bar?
[17:07] <reisio> svenx: probably :)
[17:07] <reisio> svenx: indicating what?
[17:07] <msp3k1> Same problem.  I don't get it.
[17:08] <svenx> reisio: simply that it's running. it doesn't need to blink or show progress percentage. just as long as it's there. or i can play audio using sox or something
[17:08] <reisio> msp3k1: you talking to someone in particular?
[17:08] <reisio> svenx: well, the 100% dead simplest solution I can think of is to just place a square box text char of any color you like there, with libaosd
[17:08] <msp3k1> Let me try it again, different user home area.
[17:09] <svenx> reisio: hm, interesting. i'll check it out
[17:09] <reisio> svenx: obviously a hack, though
[17:09] <reisio> msp3k1: when you respond many minutes later it's hard to know who or what it is you're responding to
[17:09] <msp3k1> Sorry.
[17:10] <reisio> just saying
[17:10] <trism> svenx: I have a bit of python code I use to quickly add an indicator: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7886481/ might be something to work with
[17:10] <trism> svenx: assuming you are using unity/gnome flashback with indictators
[17:10] <reisio> svenx: https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[17:11] <svenx> reisio: i just found that keyword too here, 'indicators'. thanks
[17:11] <svenx> trism: checking it, thanks!
[17:12] <msp3k1> reisio: I tried copying over an account that I know works and chown -R'ing it.  Same problem.
[17:13] <the[void]> hey guys, I'm having a brain fart, would anyone mind debugging the issue with this fstab line?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7886503/
[17:13] <reisio> msp3k1: okay
[17:13] <reisio> msp3k1: you said there are no panels?
[17:13] <msp3k1> Correct.  No panels
[17:13] <reisio> msp3k1: I'm not familiar with the executables, but you should try running the ones that should be running, from a terminal, and observe their output
[17:14] <reisio> compiz, unity-something, probably
[17:14] <reisio> you can ps aux from the working session and figure out which ones
[17:16] <msp3k1> reisio: Any idea how to get a terminal up once the user logs in?
[17:16] <reisio> could try ALT+F2
[17:16] <reisio> otherwise run DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal from anywhere
[17:16] <reisio> or whatever # it is ps aux | grep X outputs
[17:17] <mahm> hiii every body
[17:17] <mahm> iam new ubunto user
[17:17] <reisio> mahm: hi
[17:17] <msp3k1> reisio: The DISPLAY=:0 thing worked.  I have a terminal now.
[17:18] <reisio> msp3k1: yes it would've been surprising if it hadn't :)
[17:18] <reisio> again, it sounds like the apps that are supposed to be auto-started simply are not being
[17:19] <reisio> since the dirs were identical, it probably means they are failing to run when they are actually TOLD to be run
[17:19] <reisio> for some unknown reason
[17:19] <reisio> which is why you're about to try and run them manually
[17:20] <Nickwiz> Running EOL Quantal I have updated sources.list by ://xx.archive.ubuntu.com with ://old-releases.ubuntu.com. But what about ://security.ubuntu.com ? Is there some ://old-security.ubuntu.com or the like?
[17:20] <msp3k1> reisio: I tried running unity: "start: Unknown job: unity-panel-service"
[17:21] <shuggans> hi all - ubuntu 13.04 is failing for apt-get update
[17:22] <shuggans> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-backports/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:22] <Nickwiz> shuggans: EOL 27 January 2014
[17:22] <reisio> msp3k1: so ~/.dconf are identical between working & non-working?
[17:22] <reisio> msp3k1: excuse me, ~/.config
[17:22] <shuggans> Nickwiz: so mirrors are down?
[17:23] <compdoc> shuggans, I think you can still find raring repos, but they are usually moved after EOL
[17:23] <Nemesis][> Can anyone explain to me why 12.04.4 LTS refuses to upgrade to 14.04.1?  Packages are up to date but do-release-upgrade shows no upgrades.  I know I can use -d to force but I thought After 14.04.1 was released it wouldn't require that.
[17:23] <xangua> shuggans: install a supported ubuntu release
[17:23] <msp3k1> reisio: Should be, I copied over the working account to re-create the broken one.
[17:23] <usr13> Nickwiz: Maybe just back up /home/ and do fresh install?
[17:23] <msp3k1> reisio: What if I delete the broken user's ~/.config all together?
[17:23] <shuggans> xangua: I'm trying 13.04 due to AppAssure not supporting 12.04 corretly
[17:23] <shuggans> correctly*
[17:23] <Nickwiz> shuggans: not longer supported. You might be able to use ://old-release.ubuntu.com over ://xx.archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:24] <shuggans> 13.04 is on the list of supports, so is 12.04.3, but 14.04 is not
[17:24] <reisio> msp3k1: well, I thought you had already done that
[17:24] <reisio> msp3k1: if you haven't tried, do it
[17:24] <usr13> Nemesis][: tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:24] <Nemesis][> prompt=lts
[17:25] <usr13> Nemesis][: Should work then.  You should be offered the option to upgrade.
[17:25] <msp3k1> reisio: Just did it.  No luck.
[17:25] <Nemesis][> :/  hmm.. it's not.
[17:26] <usr13> Nemesis][: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[17:26] <usr13> Nemesis][: do-release-upgrade
[17:26] <Nickwiz> usr13: Yes, I am going to do so, but need to do a thourough backup and write a lot of notes on current system first. I have a lot of tweaks when it comes to various packages like BIND, Apache, etc. loads of scripts and fixes on all from Pulse, JACK to VIM ;),
[17:26] <msp3k1> reisio: I deleted the user's ~/.config/ directory.  Not only is the problem still there, but a new ~/.config/ directory was never created.
[17:26] <shuggans> hmm.  Meh.  I'll try 12.04 again.  Last time appassure agent caused kernel panic
[17:27] <reisio> msp3k1: well it's not adding up so far
[17:27] <shuggans> :(
[17:27] <reisio> msp3k1: but in the interest of fixing the problem rather than figuring out what it was
[17:27] <reisio> msp3k1: you might just try something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/478126/unity-not-working-after-upgrade-ubuntu-13-04-to-14-04#answer-478145
[17:27] <Nickwiz> I have tried to keep track and write down along the way, but I know there is a lot I am missing.
[17:27] <Nemesis][> usr13: http://pastebin.com/LYV893J7
[17:27] <Nickwiz> Earlier version upgrades has been a disatser.
[17:27] <msp3k1> reisio: Working on it now.
[17:28] <usr13> Nickwiz: In preperation;  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:28] <Nickwiz> I have always ended up with fresh install, and a HDD with entire OLD system backed up, fetshing over tweaks and such for 6-12 months afterwards :P
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Nickwiz: thats how I do it, the configs are in text files so are easily backed up
[17:29] <reisio> if you can't update your distro between versions, you need a better update method or a different distro
[17:29] <reisio> not everything needs to simulate Windows so well :p
[17:30] <giorgiodinapoli> is it not possible to trace iptables logging  in combination with netns
 what are some great ubuntu/linux mint help websites?
 I already use the following: http://www.webupd8.org/ http://www.noobslab.com/ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[17:30] <usr13> Nickwiz: I don't know... I've done it a number of times without problems.  I first make sure my system is up-to-date and then pull the trigger when I'm ready.
[17:31] <ilhami> Hey
[17:31] <OerHeks> bertus, for mint we don't know
[17:31] <Nemesis][> usr13: so no other suggestions other than forcing it with -d?
[17:31] <ilhami> how to check if my dist is 32 or 64?
[17:31] <usr13> Nickwiz: But there is no rush, you have couple more years.....
[17:31] <bertus> for ubuntu then please
[17:32] <usr13> Nickwiz: EOL for 12.04 is April 2017
[17:32] <Nickwiz> usr13: Yes, I am going to do it, and have done it like that before, but it has ended bad each time. I do however not have the time to do it right now, and would like to do an update of packages, (haven't since May).
[17:32] <Nickwiz> usr13: Yes, but I'm on 12:10, and I do not want to (down)grade either ...
[17:32] <usr13> Nickwiz:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:33] <bertus> OerHeks, for ubuntu then please
[17:33] <usr13> Nickwiz: Oh, 12.10 Sorry, I missed that.
[17:33] <msp3k1> reisio: Done.  I'm rebooting the machine just for good measure.
[17:33] <usr13> Nickwiz: You can't update any more, it is EOL
[17:33] <Nickwiz> np,
[17:33] <OerHeks> bertus, fullcirclemagazine.org
[17:33] <Nickwiz> What about http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/?
[17:34] <usr13> Nemesis][: EOL for 12.04 is April 2017
[17:34] <usr13> Nemesis][: here is no rush, you have couple more years.....
[17:34] <usr13> *There*  (not here)
[17:35] <usr13> Nickwiz: Sorry, I jumped the tracks, (wrong nick).
[17:36] <fgro> hi. i'd like to create an ubuntu bootable usb drive. i have access to a gentoo os here. so how can I do this with linux tools?
[17:36] <Nickwiz> usr13: Yes, but 12:10 is EOL. But one have http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/ , wouldn't that hold up?
[17:36] <usr13> fgro: dd
[17:37] <Nickwiz> Not sure how that archive / repo is maintained.
[17:37] <pdo_fn14> fgro: Unetbootin or dd, depends to you.
[17:37] <OerHeks> Nickwiz, that repo is not maintained, it is as it is. dead.
[17:37] <fgro> usr13: ok thx
[17:38] <Nickwiz> OerHeks: OK. So it is merely for being able to install existing packages then?
[17:38] <Nickwiz> (using apt)
[17:38] <OerHeks> Nickwiz, yeah, for those who don't want to upgrade. it should be wiped, as you are not safe.
[17:39] <Nickwiz> OerHeks: Well. For me it is a last resort until I have the time to do a propper upgrade. But I do not have the time to be sitting with a halted system right now ...
[17:39] <marklite> Hi, any video video editor/producers here?
[17:40] <Nickwiz> So I do not dare to do it
[17:40] <Guest3412> voidfire: Hi, I'm back in pm
[17:40] <Guest3412> voidfire: can you look there?
[17:41] <usr13> fgro: Ubuntu ISO's are hybrid already, no need to convert, just use dd to transfer image to USB drive
[17:42] <usr13> fgro: But if you ran isohybrid already, it won't hurt it.
[17:42] <usr13> fgro: ... just won't do anything ...
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> marklite: ask your real question and find out
[17:44] <usr13> fgro: dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m (Where rdiskN is the actual USB drive, make sure you get it right).
[17:46] <Guest3412> any "ethical hackers" out there to help me recover a partition, even a protected one?
[17:50] <Guest3412> voidfire: BRB
[17:51] <tsuyoshi_> hello,is ubuntu better or xubuntu for slow laptop
[17:51] <xangua> tsuyoshi_: you can try Xubuntu or Lubuntu for low resources machines
[17:51] <Tzunamii> tsuyoshi_: Check LUbuntu
[17:52] <tonyt> probly not much difference if the laptop is pretty slow. go with lubuntu instead
[17:52] <tsuyoshi_> alright,thx
[17:52] <tonyt> lxde is the way to go for slower/older machine
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> tonyt: or if you just hate Compiz :)
[17:53] <Nemesis][> usr13: I know there's several more years of support for 12.04.4 LTS, just curious as to why the upgrade path to 14.04.1 is broken.  Had no issues when I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 last time.  Just surprised it's not working, nor can I find documentation/howtos on 12.04.4 LTS to 14.04.1 LTS upgrading without using -d.  I'd just like know why it's failing (either administratively or perhaps a
[17:53] <tonyt> lubuntu, fedora lxde, pclinuxos lxde etc
[17:53] <Nemesis][> configuration error)
[17:53] <tonyt> :)
[17:53] <bertus> tonyt what about xfce or qt base?
[17:54] <tonyt> im not sure bertus, but lxde versions of linux distros were designed for lo resource usage, ie for older machines
[17:54] <tonyt> *low
[17:54] <bertus> okay thanks
[17:55] <tonyt> for this channel lubuntu is relavent
[17:56] <tonyt> google "lxde linux distros" and do some reading
[17:59] <Guest15069> hi, I try partition my HD using gparted on the install DVD but get an error
[17:59] <msp3k1> reisio: Reinstalling the unity packages had no effect.  Deleting ~/.compiz-1/ did the trick for one user.  The other user still has a problem though.
[18:00] <Guest15069> anybody know the problem ?
[18:00] <msp3k1> reisio: For the second user, their ~/.xsession-errors shows repeated entries: "init: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning"
[18:00] <Guest3412> voidfire: I'm back !!
[18:01] <Guest3412> voidfire: I imagine that you are afk
[18:02] <dw1> !mint
[18:03] <nocoins> I'm stuck on 'Copying files to the temporary folder'... It's been ~30 minutes, I was just setting up node.js, is this normal?
[18:03] <nocoins> Never mind, it just crashed... again
[18:03] <mave_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/proftpd-dfsg/+bug/1246245
[18:03] <mave_> will this ever be fixed
[18:04] <mave_> it's kind of annoying
[18:05] <Guest15069> actually I might better explain my problem ?  I have deleted all partitions so I have 250GB unallocated space, then I then in Gparted create a partition and hit "apply" I get  "An error occurred while applying the operations"
[18:05] <reisio> msp3k1: deleting ~/.compiz-1 that was copied from a working profile?
[18:05] <reisio> Guest15069: is there anything on the disk you want to keep?
[18:05] <Guest15069> why ?
[18:05] <msp3k1> Yes.  It worked on the source account.  Didn't work on the destination account.
[18:06] <samuraiRM> ale hi
[18:06] <Guest15069> reisio, no I backed everything up
[18:06] <reisio> msp3k1: k... still not really adding up :p but glad you're making progress
[18:06] <reisio> Guest15069: try doing it incrementally
[18:06] <reisio> Guest15069: delete all partitions, apply
[18:06] <reisio> Guest15069: make new ones, apply
[18:06] <OerHeks> Guest15069, did you 'apply' after the delete actions? then continued with making and hit apply again ?
[18:06] <OerHeks> reisio +1
[18:07] <Guest15069> reisio, I try over and over agin, will try one more time and be sure I hit apply each time..wait
[18:10] <reisio> Guest15069: I can give you commands to do it if it keeps not working
[18:11] <Guest15069> reisio, yes, I been trying again without luck, might be better to try to do this in terminal ?
[18:11] <reisio> Guest15069: :)
[18:11] <reisio> Guest15069: is it /dev/sda ?
[18:12] <Guest15069> resolutions, oh, now I don't have a disk anymore .. wait
[18:14] <Guest15069> reisio,  running fdisk give https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5e9d93a512a02f23af53
[18:15] <Guest15069> reisio, im stupid sorry ... yes Disk /dev/sda
[18:16] <reisio> Guest15069: free -m?
[18:16] <nullsign> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:18] <Guest15069> reisio, what do you mean with "free -m" ?
[18:19] <Guest15069> nullsign, give the same output https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5e9d93a512a02f23af53
[18:19] <nullsign> sure /dev/sda is your drive?
[18:19] <nullsign> do a df see whats mounted.
[18:20] <reisio> Guest15069: it's a command
[18:20] <Guest15069> sorry it take me time to write, have a diffrent keyboard layout running from the dvd
[18:20] <reisio> nullsign: it's the only device listed, no?
[18:21] <nullsign> yep.
[18:21] <Guest15069> reisio, I am tired : )   https://gist.github.com/anonymous/610e6fc1e99fc6f6fe9d
[18:23] <Guest15069> nullsign, here is my df https://gist.github.com/anonymous/12b747a7e92833cf8208
[18:23] <msp3k1> reisio: For the second user, I tried creating an empty home directory.  Absolutely nothing in it.  Still the same results.
[18:24] <nullsign> .. /cow?
[18:24] <reisio> Guest15069: so, you could do, for example: sgdisk -Z /dev/sda && parted -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos && parted -s mkpart primary ext4 0% 97% && parted -s mkpart primary linux-swap 97% 100%
[18:24] <nicksloan> I need my postgres cluster to be stored on a different volume. Should I create a new cluster with its data directory at the new location? Move the default cluster's data directory to that location (and change the path in the config file)? Do a bind mount from the default location to a directory on the new volume?
[18:24] <reisio> msp3k1: honestly, it doesn't sound like you are actually changing the directories
[18:25] <reisio> msp3k1: one could easily make an accidental assumption when using a strange network-mounted home dir
[18:25] <reisio> msp3k1: do make sure
[18:26] <rapture> I have an ubuntu instance running and I'm trying to figure out what's taking up disk space. I currently have / and /var/log mounted on different disks. I searched and tried everything but I can't figure it out. Various searches: http://pastebin.com/4v2DPLCT & http://pastebin.com/s4Bt1E5t
[18:26] <msp3k1> I'm pretty sure.  I can log in as the user on tty1, and I can "touch this", and then see the file "this" on the home directory server.
[18:27] <rapture> df is showing 100% used on both but du isn't showing what's taking it up
[18:27] <bodhi_zazen> run du -h
[18:27] <Nothing_Much> What's the difference between an encrypted /home folder and an encrypted disk?
[18:28] <rapture> bodhi_zazen: check pastebins from above
[18:28] <bodhi_zazen> du -vh /var , probably logs
[18:28] <compdoc> an encrypted /home folder wont work for me. prevents vncserver from starting
[18:29] <ZZRMike> How do I manually add 2560x1440 resolution for my monitor? It's not showing up as a mode in xrandr
[18:29] <rapture> -v is invale
[18:29] <rapture> invalid*
[18:29] <msp3k1> reisio: I double-checked.  The user's home area is being mounted properly.  I can su - to the user, type "tough this", and see the file "this" on the home directory server.
[18:30] <Jeffrey_f> Nothing_Much: Encrypted Disk - The whole drive is encrypted.  With an encrypted home folder, ONLY your home folder is encrypted.  I have both
[18:30] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, I'm curious as to how to move my /home folder to another drive
[18:30] <Nothing_Much> With an encrypted drive
[18:30] <Nothing_Much> But the home folder isn't encrypted
[18:30] <f00dWorksta> which browser do you guys use?
[18:31] <Nothing_Much> Uh.. hang on, the encrypted drive is the ssd
[18:31] <Nothing_Much> f00dWorksta: I use Chromium
[18:31] <f00dWorksta> Nothing_Much: just wondering, why not firefox? as it is default browser for ubuntu
[18:32] <Nothing_Much> f00dWorksta: Firefox has been pretty lame as of recently, not the interface, I love it, but it keeps hogging my memory and crashes more often than not
[18:32] <Guest15069> reisio,   sudo parted -s mkpart primary ext4 0% 97%  gives "Error: Could not stat device mkpart - No such file or directory."
[18:33] <Nothing_Much> So what do I do with my encrypted SSD?
[18:33] <Nothing_Much> When I move the /home partition over to a HDD, what would happen?
[18:33] <reisio> Guest15069: whoops
[18:33] <TJ-> Nothing_Much: "cryptsetup luksopen /path/to/device crypt_fde" then "mkdir -p /mnt/fde" then "mount /dev/mapper/crypt_fde /mnt/fde" then you can copy/move "/mnt/fde/home/" (or /mnt/fde/home/$USER/) to the other drive with something like rsync - make sure you copy the hidden dot-files using "shopt -s dotglob"
[18:33] <reisio> Guest15069: sgdisk -Z /dev/sda &&
[18:33] <reisio>           parted -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos && parted -s mkpart primary ext4 0% 97% &&
[18:34] <reisio> bah
[18:34] <reisio> Guest15069: so, you could do, for example: sgdisk -Z /dev/sda && parted -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos && parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext4 0% 97% && parted -s /dev/sda mkpart primary linux-swap 97% 100%
[18:34] <reisio> Guest15069: forgot the device
[18:34] <Nothing_Much> TJ-: path to device?
[18:34] <Nothing_Much> You mean the / of the HDD?
[18:35] <Nickwiz> rapture: A messy script (have not gotten around to celan it) but still use it frequently, http://pastebin.com/GpkKPU9R run by e.g. ~/script_name /home/yourname
[18:35] <TJ-> Nothing_Much: No, the device path... it'll be under /dev/ ... e.g. "/dev/sdX"
[18:35] <ilhami> Hey
[18:35] <ilhami> Skype is not recognizing my sound devices!
[18:36] <Nothing_Much> TJ-: could you PM me the details or something?
[18:37] <TJ-> Nothing4You: I just gave them to you... if they seem daunting them maybe you should practice in a virtual machine first
[18:37] <Guest15069> reisio, is it possible for you to copy the commands to a gist ?  Of some reason I am not able to cut and past from the IRC window and my keyboard acting wierd running from the DVD
[18:39] <Nothing_Much> TJ-: luksopen is unknown action
[18:40] <kc9iid>  /msg NickServ identify kc9iid tech2000
[18:40] <bodhi_zazen> Nothing_Much: cryptsetup luksOpen - note cap O
[18:41] <Nothing_Much> bodhi_zazen: oh there wasn't a capital O in those instructions
[18:41] <Guest15069> reisio,    sudo parted -s /dev/sda  mkpart primary ext4 0% 97%     give   Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label
[18:42] <bodhi_zazen> Guest15069: you need a # , sda1 or what not
[18:42] <reisio> nope
[18:43] <reisio> that probably means it doesn't see your /dev/sda
[18:44] <Nothing_Much> TJ-: Do I need to use sudo?
[18:45] <Nothing_Much> Hello?
[18:45] <Nothing_Much> I was told to do this: "cryptsetup luksopen /path/to/device crypt_fde" then "mkdir -p /mnt/fde" then "mount /dev/mapper/crypt_fde /mnt/fde" then you can copy/move "/mnt/fde/home/" (or /mnt/fde/home/$USER/) to the other drive with something like rsync - make sure you copy the hidden dot-files using "shopt -s dotglob"
[18:46] <Nothing_Much> Do I need to use sudo first?
[18:46] <Nothing_Much> Oi
[18:47] <grobe0ba> Nothing_Much, yes
[18:47] <duffman_> Running into a bit of an issue with mysql and Ubuntu 12.04. When running 'service mysql start' we get, quite literally, nothing. It exits with 0, but nothing seems to happen. Thoughts?
[18:47] <Nothing_Much> Well, now it's saying that my 1TB HDD isn't a valid LUKS device
[18:47] <Nothing_Much> grobe0ba: HDD isn't a valid LUKS device
[18:48] <duffman_> There is nothing in the logs either.
[18:49] <grobe0ba> Nothing_Much, then the device you are specifying is not encrypted
[18:49] <msp3k1> reisio: When this user logs in, the session seems to hang on /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test
[18:49] <grobe0ba> duffman_, upstart glitch of some kind
[18:49] <bodhi_zazen> Nothing_Much: what command did you run exactly ?
[18:49] <Nothing_Much> grobe0ba: How do I encrypt the hard drive?
[18:50] <grobe0ba> Nothing_Much, you are trying to copy data off of it, right?
[18:50] <grobe0ba> in which case, you do NOT want to do that
[18:50] <Nothing_Much> grobe0ba: hang on, no, I'm trying to move my /home partition over to a hard drive, but I don't know how it'll affect my SSD
[18:50] <Nothing_Much> my SSD is encrypted
[18:51] <grobe0ba> are you sure you're specifying the correct device?
[18:51] <Nothing_Much> it's /dev/sdb
[18:51] <Nothing_Much> which is the hard drive
[18:51] <Nothing_Much> the HDD
[18:51] <Gabe_Newell> use steam os
[18:51] <Nothing_Much> not the place to joke around, Gabe_Newell
[18:51] <grobe0ba> Nothing_Much, and is the HDD already encrypted?
[18:51] <Gabe_Newell> no hl3..
[18:52] <Nothing_Much> grobe0ba: nope, but I want it encrypted as the /home partition thing..
[18:52] <Nothing_Much> but the /home partition thing confuses me
[18:52] <softballs> TJ-: hey :)
[18:52] <Nothing_Much> so I just want to encrypt the disk at boot or whatever
[18:52] <Guest15069> reisio, ok, I been able to get cut and past to work and now your command work (of some reason)
[18:52] <Guest15069> here is a gist https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bb07e632286c1b2305df
[18:52] <Gabe_Newell> home is eqiuvalent as windows c drive
[18:53] <Gabe_Newell> root folder
[18:53] <duffman_> grobe0ba: I see. Any suggestions?
[18:53] <OerHeks> Gabe_Newell really?
[18:54] <grobe0ba> duffman_, nope. it might not actually be upstart, but every time i've had even so much as one error with upstart, that meant a new install for me
[18:54] <Gabe_Newell> you better belive it
[18:54] <grobe0ba> i got tired of it and moved to a system with systemd
[18:54] <Gabe_Newell> belive*
[18:54] <duffman_> grobe0ba: This is a fresh install in a VM :(
[18:54] <wheatthin> <-- hasn't had a problem with upstart since installing a few months ago :).. and I'm constantly updating..
[18:54] <the[void]> hey guys, I'm having a brain fart, would anyone mind debugging the issue with this fstab line?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7886503/
[18:54] <wheatthin> I dunno
[18:54] <grobe0ba> duffman_, i have no idea
[18:55] <samuraiRM> figli di puttana
[18:55] <grobe0ba> wheatthin, i've had it just go all crappy on me, with only a handful of packages
[18:56] <hellinbox> Hi every body ! I'm new
[18:56] <Claudiano> ciao
[18:56] <Claudiano> !list
[18:56] <hellinbox> If somebody know a french channel
[18:57] <OerHeks> !alis | hellinbox
[18:57] <Retr0spectrum> this is a test, please ignore
[18:57] <hellinbox> thanks
[18:58] <Guest15069> reisio, now in the gparted GUI i have two unformated partitions, the 6.99GB partition I am able to format to ext4 but the 250GB partition give the same error as before
[18:59] <Guest15069> what to do ?
[19:00] <reisio> Guest15069: use mkfs.ext4 instead
[19:00] <wheatthin> grobe0ba, the only way I can see it going crappy, is by installing outside of the repo's
[19:03] <optrusty> Hi!
[19:04] <optrusty> Wow so many people joining and leaving
[19:04] <Nothing_Much> Hi optrusty, do you need help?
[19:05] <optrusty> The other way aroud Nothing_Much
[19:05] <Guest15069> reisio
[19:06] <Gabe_Newell> its bc im here
[19:07] <Guest15069> did reisio leave ?  this is what happens now https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cebe49ed99678f73f330
[19:07] <missvaleska> I am in Ubuntu 13.10, And my debconf is broken. It seems as if some packages randomly tried to upgrade to 14.04, and then stopped, leaving the system broken since other packages depended on earlier versions of critical packages that didn't exist.
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  guess you cannot upgrade directly from 13.10 to 14.04, because 13.10 is no LTS
[19:10] <bodhi_zazen> missvaleska: easier to re-install rather then repair failed upgrades, more so if the system is mixed like yours
[19:10] <missvaleska> I don't know
[19:10] <missvaleska> But I need help
[19:11] <missvaleska> No, Only one package is broken
[19:11] <missvaleska> Just debconf
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  backup and fresh install would be easiest and fastes
[19:11] <missvaleska> it would be pointless to reinstall an entire system with only one package broken.
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> fastest*
[19:11] <missvaleska> okay but I don' t want that, I want to fix it.
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  cannot be fixed, it's EOL
[19:11] <awesomess3> missvaleska, download the 13.10 debconf package and then `dpkg -i debconf.deb`    *shrugs*
[19:11] <missvaleska> you aren't making any sense
[19:11] <whitor> Hi all. I'm trying to get 14.04 running on a macbook pro. Is this a futile goal or does anyone know of any good websites or guides for this?  Basically the internal HD died and a friend gave me this unit with no HD. I installed 14.04 on a separate laptop... then placed it in the MAC... It boots beyond the first menu, but then dies with an all white screen... any ideas ?
[19:12] <missvaleska> okay, I'll try that
[19:12] <optrusty> Whitor: What arch did you download
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> !13.10 | missvaleska
[19:12] <whitor> optrusty, 64bit desktop
[19:12] <missvaleska> I really don' t care sorry
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> missvaleska: install the 14.04 debconf , lol
[19:13] <dlrk> Ubuntu can't change the clockspeed of an i7 with EIST disabled, right?
[19:13] <missvaleska> I can't
[19:13] <missvaleska> that was the reason my package system was broken
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> missvaleska: well then it sounds like more then one little broken package ;p
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  13.10 is dead, upgrade first, then ask again, if needed
[19:13] <missvaleska> also, I can't install any packages, it won' t let me
[19:13] <diegoaguilar> hello, can has anyone experience in Ubntu 14.04 minor bugs about keyboard and screen settings
[19:14] <missvaleska> It is just one broken package omg
[19:14] <diegoaguilar> any of both are remembered after reboot
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  you can't install packages, because of the same reason
[19:15] <bodhi_zazen> missvaleska: it is a partial upgrade, some packages from 13.10 and some from 14.04 - that sort of state is almost impossible to resolve as you get dependency errora
[19:15] <missvaleska> ...
[19:15] <optrusty> Whitor: I once Installed Ubuntu on a Dell and then I moved the HDD to a Mac Book Pro. The Wi-Fi didnt work
[19:15] <missvaleska> it wasn't a partial upgrade though
[19:15] <bodhi_zazen> *errors - debugging them requires manual intervention and takes longer then a fresh install
[19:15] <missvaleska> just one package is from 14.04 randomly
[19:15] <missvaleska> literally just one
[19:15] <missvaleska> just debconf
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  that one broken package showed you, that 13.10 is dead
[19:15] <missvaleska> I just want to reinstall it and I don't know how, that is literally it
[19:16] <missvaleska> I am talking to you from this system right now
[19:16] <bodhi_zazen> missvaleska: start running commands and posting error messages , start with `sudo apt-get install -f`
[19:17] <bodhi_zazen> Or boot a live 14.04 usb and install , do not format /home or /root
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  sure, it works, but you cannot upgrade or install anything new
[19:19] <magicsack> can anyone help installing a 3g dongle to ubuntu please?
[19:19] <optrusty> magicsack: what type
[19:19] <optrusty> ?
[19:20] <magicsack> we have e3231
[19:20] <genii> So then Huawei
[19:21] <optrusty> magicsack: Can you tell me what company
[19:21] <magicsack> i have tried lsusb and comes with the HiLINK (HUAWEI)
[19:22] <optrusty> magicsack: Let me find something
[19:23] <magicsack> error running software, cannor find auto run software, tried using wine also.  ty optrusrty, I appreciate it :-)
[19:24] <svenx> exactly what magic does ubuntu/unity/nautilus do to the samba daemon when you select 'local folder sharing'?
[19:24] <svenx> it obviously doesn't change smb.conf
[19:25] <optrusty> magicsack: This might fix it
[19:26] <optrusty> magicsack: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2110519
[19:26] <Night-hacks>  Why on Linux copying large amount of data on USB other stuff freezes the whole machine ? related article
[19:26] <Night-hacks> http://lwn.net/Articles/572911/
[19:26] <Night-hacks> anyway to fix it ?
[19:26] <Guest15069> I really don't understand why I'm not able to partition my HD ... both using gparted (GUI) and the command line fail
[19:26] <Guest15069> here is what I got now https://gist.github.com/anonymous/473f1c8b15e819107a76
[19:27] <Guest15069> any ideas what to do ?
[19:27] <magicsack> On it I thanks ever so much and if it doesn't work, i will be back.  Appreciate the help :)
[19:28] <optrusty> magicsack: Not Me. :)
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest15069  try sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[19:28] <missvaleska> okay
[19:29] <missvaleska> http://pastebin.com/U301HvqU
[19:29] <optrusty> One question: Is it possible to go from Windows XP to Ubuntu
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  i guess it's because the 13.10 repos (sources) are no longer available
[19:30] <optrusty> I cant take answers as I think
[19:30] <Ben64> optrusty: yes it is possible. can dual boot or erase windows and replace it
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> optrusty  what do you mean "go to"?
[19:30] <bodhi_zazen> missvaleska: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[19:31]  * bodhi_zazen notes missvaleska could have finished a fresh install alreaady
[19:31] <Guest15069> MonkeyDust, that command give me nothing,, if selecting p I get my table printed out
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest15069  good, go ahead, now you can erase or create partitions
[19:32] <optrusty> Ben64 MonkeyDust Why I said it that way is because I had problems installing Windows 7 on a PC running Windows XP and the computer broke so I dont want the problem coming up on my second PC
[19:32] <Guest15069> MonkeyDust, ok I will try to use fdisk and see if that helps
[19:32] <Ben64> optrusty: installing windows wouldn't break a computer
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest15069  scroll down: http://www.howtogeek.com/106873/how-to-use-fdisk-to-manage-partitions-on-linux/
[19:32] <magicsack> Optrusty - just read through that, and I have seen that thread already at 3pm today, 5 hrs ago lol :)
[19:33] <optrusty> magicsack: lol does it help
[19:34] <optrusty> Ben64: I was using a USB to install Windows 7
[19:34] <optrusty> Ben64: It wouldnt boot from USb
[19:34] <Ben64> optrusty: ok, but windows support is not on topic here
[19:35] <MoProductions> Hello.  I recently installed 14, but my computer is suddenly taking over 45 minutes to boot up.  Are there any known solutions (I’m new to linux)
[19:35] <magicsack> im afraid not.... i have done all those suggestions and nothing has touched it. ubuntu recognises the dongle, but doesnt let me get past the hilink software or show in active connections
[19:35] <optrusty> Ben64: No no no will the same problem happen when I install ubuntu
[19:36] <optrusty> magicsack: you read the whole thread?
[19:36] <magicsack> indeed :)
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> MoProductions  45 seconds or 45 minutes?
[19:36] <Ben64> optrusty: if it can't boot from usb then it can't boot from usb
[19:36] <OerHeks> optrusty, how do we know, i think the same cannot happen.
[19:36] <optrusty> Ben64: Let me be specific it is a Acer Aspire One
[19:36] <MoProductions> 45 minutes
[19:37] <magicsack> let me double check  - just in case :)
[19:37] <MoProductions> MonkeyDust: No joking, it literally sits there on the “ubuntu” logo with the dots.  The dots move, but it just takes forever.
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> MoProductions  then something went wrong during installation
[19:37] <Ben64> optrusty: ok well you should check to see if it can boot from usb
[19:37] <MoProductions> MonkeyDust: this only just started happening today
[19:37] <optrusty> Ben64: Ok thx
[19:37] <missvaleska> Look, i don't want to do that so please stop asking
[19:37] <Fish-Guts> hello. I am using ubuntu 14.04 64 bit and i am writing a program in C. My compiler now has a problem finding /usr/include/sys. i am aware that on 64 bit, it'ŝ located in x86_64-linux-gnu/. However, when i include time.h there is a compile error because time.h tried to include sys/cdefs.h.... any hints?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  and you want to do is not possible
[19:37] <brucelee> getting stuck at stopping system v runlevel compatibility
[19:38] <brucelee> anyone have any ideas?
[19:38] <Beldar> optrusty, Power on and immediately start tapping f11 that will give you a per-session boot menu, if the usb is loaded correctly it will boot.
[19:38] <Beldar> I have a acer aspire one
[19:38] <Guest15069> MonkeyDust,  I deleted all my partitions and created a new one using fdisk, still same problem
[19:39] <saint_> hi all - can someone give me a hand with a wifi  device ? I have ubuntu 12.04 . when i do nm-tool , I can see my wifi device, driver b43, disconnected. it can scann all the access points. I tried the wpa_supplicant that I find on all blogs, but all I get is CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=12:33:23:33:ae:dd reason=0 - Any hint would be much appreciated
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> Guest15069  what problem exactly?
[19:40] <MoProductions> Is there a way to check a history of software installs?  Mabe we installed something that broke it
[19:41] <DickvanDike> will ubuntu run on a p2 333mhz with 128MB ram and 1TB HDD?
[19:41] <geirha> MoProductions: /var/log/dpkg.log*
[19:41] <brucelee> anyone know how to get to commandline or grub menu or something if stuck at starting/stopping services screen
[19:42] <Beldar> DickvanDike, Not ubuntu and that old of a setup will not read the HD to boot past avout 130, gigs whatever you put on there.
[19:42] <Guest15069> ok here is what happens   https://gist.github.com/anonymous/be2edfd00aaf3082ce19
[19:42] <MoProductions> ok time to learn some command line editor tools
[19:42] <Guest15069> MonkeyDust, see above
[19:42] <DickvanDike> what distro would run on p2 333mhz?
[19:43] <Guest15069> what does "/dev/sda1 is not a block special device." mean ?
[19:43] <Beldar> DickvanDike, Offtopic but try puppy linux
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> Guest15069  it's faster and easier if you hit the up arrow to repeat it
[19:43] <DickvanDike> beldar what about lubuntu?
[19:44] <Fish-Guts> no one an idea?
[19:44] <genii> DickvanDike: Lubuntu will run, I think you'd need to install using the Alternate however
[19:44] <Beldar> DickvanDike, you could try.
[19:44] <saint_> anyone ?
[19:44] <Beldar> DickvanDike, Just be aware of how far the boot can be read is all a smal install with the rest as another partition would be fine.
[19:45] <DickvanDike> ok
[19:45] <genii> DickvanDike: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso  if you want to try it.
[19:45] <Beldar> DickvanDike, max the ram out if you can.
[19:45] <DickvanDike> 768MB
[19:45] <gazzerh> Guest15069: try: partprope /dev/sda
[19:45] <gazzerh> partprobe
[19:46] <Ben64> does a p2 support PAE?
[19:46] <MoProductions> would leaving a machine on all weekend cause something that would start 45 minute boot ups?
[19:46] <Ben64> MoProductions: no
[19:46] <Guest15069> MonkeyDust, , to repeat what ? any idea what  "/dev/sda1 is not a block special device." mean ?
[19:46] <DickvanDike> i will just try it =D
[19:47] <Beldar> saint_, anyone does not help you, have some patience and keep your posts relevant and detailed. ;)
[19:47] <Guest15069> gazzerh, wait ,, did not see your answer
[19:47] <gazzerh> Guest15069: it means you've removed the partitions but you probably need to rescan partitions
[19:47] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: no, but a failing HDD would
[19:47] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: Hm….that’s an interesting point because the monitor on this thing is failing.  Maybe they sent us a jnk machien
[19:48] <Guest15069> gazzerh,  "sudo: partprope: command not found"  (running the xubuntu install DVD)
[19:49] <gazzerh> *partprobe
[19:49] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: also, inadequate RAM for an application can cause thrashing from excessive disk paging, which will also slow the machine to a crawl
[19:50] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: Well the problem starts before I even get to run any apps.  It’s got 16gb so it should be ok, but something is sure funky
[19:51] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: well, apps can run in the background and start as a service on boot.
[19:51] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: I should probably say "process"
[19:51] <Guest15069> gazzerh,  "sudo: partprope: command not found"  (running the xubuntu install DVD)
[19:51] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: Hm.  i can’t recall installing anything like that.  honestly we’ve only really added the project that we’re going to be working on.
[19:52] <MoProductions> Which means that if it comes to a re-install it shouldnt be a huge issue
[19:52] <gazzerh> it's not partprope it's partprobe with a b
[19:52] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: what does dmesg and syslog say?
[19:53] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: I agree that inadequate RAM is unlikely if you have 16 GB
[19:53] <MoProductions> i can read the dmesg but i’m not sure what exactly i’m looking for.  Been a while since I used linux.
[19:54] <Guest15069> gazzerh,  ok, that command execute but don't give any output in the terminal
[19:54] <gazzerh> Guest15069: now try doing what you were doing before
[19:54] <Guest15069> ..then running "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1" I still get same answer
[19:54] <mgesing> Hi everyone, I have a samba share which gets mounted through /etc/fstab on boot. I want my user to have  read and write permissions on the contents of the share, but when the directory is mounted all the contents are owned by root:root. How can I give my user access?
[19:55] <Guest15069> gazzerh, you mean remove all partition and start over ?
[19:55] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: what part of the bootup process is hanging?
[19:55] <missvaleska> is there a dpkg force option?
[19:55] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: my advice is to start from the syslog and work backwards to dmesg if what you're looking for isn't there
[19:55] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: The screen that says ‘ubuntu’ with the animating dots.  They animate fine it jsut takes a while
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> missvaleska  struggling with it takes about an hour now, fresh install takes 15 minutes
[19:55] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: Unfortunately i’m not quite sure what i’m looking for
[19:57] <MoProductions> could a webcam be causing the problems?
[19:57] <MoProductions> Our project requires a SoftKinetic camera
[19:59] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: look in /var/log/syslog for the timeframe of your initial bootup
[19:59] <zerowaitstate> zerowaitstate: look for error messages, particularly timeouts
[20:00] <MoProductions> ok cool.  What’s the best way to view log files in linux?  Just the less command?
[20:00] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: I usually just use less.
[20:00] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: if you know what you're looking for, grep helps
[20:00] <Fish-Guts> in my ubuntu installation features.h includes sys/cdefs.h but this cannot be found. Any hints?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> Fish-Guts  what are you trying to do?
[20:01] <Guest13272> Hi everyone
[20:01] <Fish-Guts> MonkeyDust, i am writing a program that needs to include sys/times.h, which includes features.h which then includes sys/cdefs.h
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> Fish-Guts  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:02] <Fish-Guts> will do, thanks
[20:02] <Poofi> woah
[20:02] <Poofi> excuse me
[20:03] <rww> Fish-Guts: it should be in libc6-dev
[20:03] <Poofi> can someone help me?
[20:03] <Fish-Guts> rww, i have libc6 -dev installed
[20:04] <rww> Fish-Guts: I know, so that's odd. :\
[20:04] <MoProductions> Well there’s definitly a giant leap in timestamps in the syslog, but it doesnt look like any errors.
[20:04] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: what is before the leap?
[20:05] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: and after I guess
[20:05] <Fish-Guts> should i just try to reinstall ?
[20:05] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: also check kern.log
[20:06] <morpheus_gr> 69
[20:06] <MoProductions> it’s weird, the time stamp jumps back like 3 hours
[20:07] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: ntp is probably correcting a skewed clock.
[20:07] <Guest13272> Hi everyone, i'm new in the Ubuntu community. I just installed Xubuntu 14.04 64 bit version, and i meet some difficulties to install XAMPP. Could you help me if possible ? Thanks you in advance !
[20:07] <MoProductions> http://pastebin.com/FFJvdZJ6
[20:08] <OerHeks> !xampp
[20:08] <Fish-Guts> Guest13272, you shouldn't do that on linux. try googling for "lamp"
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> Guest13272  use LAMPP, not xampp
[20:08] <OerHeks> Guest13285, use lamp
[20:08] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: is this system dual-boot?
[20:09] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: that looks like a timezone adjustment
[20:09] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: It is not dual boot.  I chose the option to nuke the other os’s upon install
[20:10] <Guest13272> ok this is noted, it seemed to me that xamp was a newer version, right ?
[20:11] <OerHeks> Guest13272, no.
[20:11] <Fish-Guts> guest13272, no, xampp is for windows, lamp is for linux.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> Guest13272  not sure what you mean, but also try tasksel (task select)
[20:12] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: Windows normally stores the "local" time in the hardware clock, whereas most other OS's use UTC and use timezone interpolation to give you a reading.
[20:12] <MoProductions> The correct time appears at the top so i know i at least got that right heh
[20:12] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: if you previously had windows on the machine, Linux will probably adjust the hardware clock to match UTC by syncing to an external NTP time source.
[20:13] <MoProductions> that wouldn’t cause the giant slowdown tho would it?
[20:13] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: that likely accounts for the jump, if you are in a timezone that is 3 hours off Greenwich
[20:13] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: I doubt it
[20:14] <MoProductions> is there a way to clear out logs?  I’m considering doing that and then rebooting to see if i can narrow it down
[20:15] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: the logs should rotate automatically, you shouldn't need to delete them
[20:16] <MoProductions> awesome
[20:16] <MoProductions> why on earth did it take me so long to use these irc rooms
[20:16] <MoProductions> thank you
[20:17] <zerowaitstate> np man
[20:17] <MoProductions> ok here goes....
[20:17] <MoProductions> *crosses fingers*
[20:23] <MoProductions> Is there a way to boot in safe mode or something?
[20:23] <zerowaitstate> um, yes
[20:24] <MoProductions> i’m noobish i dont know the commands yet
[20:24] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: Left Shift gets you the grub menu
[20:24] <zerowaitstate> if you hold it down while booting
[20:25] <MoProductions> i remember chmod tho
[20:25] <Guest13272> thank you for all your answers
[20:32] <jim-cla> Hello!  Need some help on determining cause of kernel panic, was wondering if this is the right place..
[20:33] <jhutchins> jim-cla: Given what you've told us about the problem I would say it's hardware.
[20:33] <jim-cla> I am seeing it across multiple machines, all new though...
[20:34] <jhutchins> jim-cla: well, that probably rules out disk errors.
[20:35] <jhutchins> jim-cla: Could be a corrupt install from a bad installer.
[20:36] <jim-cla> we use the same image coming from a tftp server, works well on some but not others, I have a capture of the panic but am not sure what information I should be pulling from it to help determine...
[20:37] <jhutchins> jim-cla: Which release, what kind of hardware, what's happening when the panic occurs...
[20:38] <jhutchins> jim-cla: Do you mean a TFTP boot or a TFTP install?
[20:41] <jim-cla> 12.04 release, mtop-610c72 (looking up specs now), panic happens on boot, right after "sysenter_do_call",  image is dd to sata drive from server after PXE into sysrescue, mis-spoke about tftp
[20:43] <jim-cla> via chipset
[20:43] <jim-cla> nano 1.6 proc
[20:43]  * genii sips and reads http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/barebone_view.asp?productid=847&proname=JBC610C72-2257-B%20%28Mini-Top%29
[20:44] <jim-cla> That's it!
[20:44] <Guest8964> voidfire: Can you help me again?
[20:46] <c|oneman> how much extra battery power is used up running ubuntu desktop in vmware?
[20:47] <c|oneman> doing nothing, sitting on the gui
[20:51] <genii> jim-cla: If these are all identical systems and it works on some but not others, then there seems to be some issue with the process of dd-ing the image from server onto the local disk. Either something like there is bad areas on the disk, or something in the image might be the same that shouldn't be ( like it's setting all their hostnames to the same thing or something).
[20:52] <bekks> genii: changing the hostname/ip after deploying the image should be easy :)
[20:52] <MoProductions> is there a way to check the version of a driver?
[20:53] <zerowaitstate> MoProductions: video?
[20:54] <MoProductions> zerowaitstate: hm?  I mean the driver for this camera
[20:56] <Chaos_Zero> has anyone ever hears of something like auditd that will push to a database instead of a file?
[20:57] <zerowaitstate> Chaos_Zero: take a look at logstash
[21:00] <Amy_Lu_Who> what do I do if I am opening an .exe program with Wine and I get the message to log in as an administrator, but I am logged in as an administrator?  It also does not give me a log in box and prompt for a password...
[21:01] <k1l> Amy_Lu_Who: ask the wine specialists about that specific program and how to solve that:
[21:01] <k1l> !wine | Amy_Lu_Who
[21:02] <BillyZane> hi
[21:02] <BillyZane> my mouse is not working properlyu
[21:02] <Amy_Lu_Who> k1l, thank you sorry I came to the wrong place.
[21:02] <BillyZane> it freezes up randomly
[21:02] <k1l> Amy_Lu_Who: no problem. but wine is that complex its best to ask the wine guys directly :)
[21:04] <computa_mike> quick question : can I Install Ubuntu onto a HP Pavilion 15-n265sa ?
[21:04] <Amy_Lu_Who> k1l, okay, and thanks again.  I didn't know about #winehq
[21:06] <BillyZane> i think i know what the problem is. my mouse is too old and has finally died
[21:07] <SchrodingersScat> rip
[21:07] <gazzerh> BillyZane: mouse or touchpad?
[21:07] <BillyZane> mouse
[21:08] <BillyZane> it all started when i spilt tea on it a few months back
[21:08] <BillyZane> it's about 10 years old
[21:08] <BillyZane> probably older
[21:08] <gazzerh> haha
[21:08] <BillyZane> the scroll wheel stopped working. but after a few days, i could move the cursor again
[21:08] <gazzerh> 10 years!! is it a ball mouse? :)
[21:09] <BillyZane> naa, it's a microsoft optical mouse
[21:09] <BillyZane> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31N7ENCV2ZL._SX300_.jpg
[21:09] <TJ-> BillyZane: give it a bath in Isopropyl alcohol; that usually revives things :)
[21:10] <BillyZane> TJ-, i have some of that
[21:10] <BillyZane> i guess it's worth a shot
[21:10] <magicsack> hi all - can you help me with installing the ISO image of ibuntu please
[21:11] <TJ-> BillyZane: not a literal bath of course... open it up, use the alcohol and swabs and/or fine toothbrush to clean the scroller and switches and circuit board
[21:11] <BillyZane> i was going to give it a literal bath
[21:11] <Beldar> magicsack, What is your end goal and you do not understand?
[21:11] <magicsack> it will not auto run -  so what is the best way to run this?
[21:11] <TJ-> BillyZane: The alcohol helps, but agitation from a fine brush is what will usually clean out 'sticky' keys and scrollers
[21:12] <Amy_Lu_Who> BillyZane, you are funny!
[21:12] <Beldar> magicsack, auto run how, and use the nick of whom you answer to preface posts to them.
[21:13] <trijntje> magicsack: you cant autorun ubuntu, you have to burn it to a dvd or usb drive, and boot the pc from that
[21:13] <BillyZane> i'm probably going to get another mouse, but also clean this one
[21:14] <magicsack> my apologies - I am trying to upgrade from an old 10.04 (bad I know!) to 12.1 -low spec.  It is burnt to disc.  It will not run at all when put into the drive... it is not my computer...
[21:14] <Beldar> magicsack, Are you trying to boot it?
[21:15] <magicsack> i am literally trying to upgrade the o/s to 12.1 only
[21:15] <magicsack> from 10.04
[21:15] <k1l> magicsack: 12.10? that would be a very bad idea
[21:15] <jakubPoland77> hi
[21:15] <magicsack> low spec pc.....
[21:15] <k1l> magicsack: there is a 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade path since its a LTS to LTS upgrade
[21:16] <k1l> magicsack: 12.10 is out of life, too
[21:16] <magicsack> i have 12.04 also...
[21:16] <k1l> magicsack: so 12.10 is not possible,
[21:16] <magicsack> nothing neeeds to be saved ont he pc
[21:16] <trijntje> magicsack: how low spec? Its probably better to install a light flavour of ubuntu, such as xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:16] <k1l> 12.04 still got 3 years support left. so that is a solution
[21:17] <magicsack> P4, 1.7Ghz 500mb ram
[21:17] <k1l> magicsack: if its low spec aim for Lubuntu from the start. if you dont want to keep the config/files reinstall 12.04 Lubuntu from the is
[21:17] <k1l> iso
[21:18] <magicsack> happy to go witih the 12.04....
[21:18] <zerowaitstate> 12.04.4
[21:18] <magicsack> I used this previously and was ok
[21:20] <magicsack> So what is the best way of running from the disc?
[21:20] <magicsack> please :-)
[21:20] <k1l> magicsack: burn the Lubuntu 12.04 iso to a disk or put it onto a usb pendrive and give it a go
[21:22] <magicsack> am I correct in saying it has .exe files?  I know it sounds stupid but I have the disc and it will not run....
[21:22] <magicsack> the iso file will not run at all
[21:22] <k1l> magicsack: what means "will not run"?
[21:23] <zerowaitstate> wow ok
[21:23] <k1l> are you sure you rebootet and choosed to boot from that cd?
[21:23] <zerowaitstate> magicsack: you need to burn the image to the disc using a utility. you cannot just copy the file to the CD.
[21:23] <zerowaitstate> magicsack: then you need to boot from the CDROM once you've burned it. you cannot run it from the OS.
[21:24] <yz3pD> magicsack: german?
[21:24] <magicsack> it will not auto run when you choose to start from it... or even when you put it in
[21:25] <zerowaitstate> magicsack: you need to reboot with the cd in the drive, and make sure your computer BIOS is set to boot from CDROM before the HDD
[21:25] <magicsack> I used the bios to boot from
[21:25] <magicsack> do you mean I need to use a programme to create a cd rather than drag the item??
[21:26] <nightdemon666> Hi! Anyone have issues with their ipod randomly unmounting in ubuntu 14.04? It mounts as /dev/sdc when user is logged in, but after some time, it just completely unmounts... Rather ejects, as it is no longer seen in fdisk, but is seen via lshw.
[21:26] <zerowaitstate> magicsack: correct. you need to burn the "image". I use imgburn, but other tools work also
[21:26] <k1l> magicsack: you need to "burn" the iso.
[21:26] <magicsack> ok, i shall try that, apologies :)
[21:27] <zerowaitstate> magicsack: no need to apologize. gotta learn this stuff somewhere
[21:28] <zerowaitstate> magicsack: basically, the .iso file contains the entire CD layout, bit-by-bit. The bits on the CD have to match the bits in the .iso file. If you just copy the .iso file to the disk, Windows will try to create a "filesystem" on the CD, instead of making the CD match the exact contents of the .iso
[21:29] <MoProductions> so that’s the difference
[21:31] <nightdemon666> No one has random unmounting issue with ipod?
[21:33] <happyfr0gg> hellome, all.  Is there a way for me to add a battery status icon in the upper right hand corner of my login screen?
[21:34] <Rolling7z> hello everyone, I installed Ubuntu 14 on my laptop, and when I start up, I just get the splash screen with a mouse pointer, Like my laptop is an extended screen.  In windows my laptop shows with a nvidia 630 adapter and a intel hd4000 adapter, I think its using the wrong one or is confused.  Any ideas or suggestions?
[21:36] <nightdemon666> Rolling7z, i think you will only be using one of the two graphics cards, unless you are using both monitors at the same time
[21:36] <happyfr0gg> Rooling7z - what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[21:37] <Rolling7z> get my main screen back with the application bar and everything
[21:37] <nightdemon666> Rolling7z, also since its a laptop, i believe you should only have one graphics chipset anyway.
[21:37] <happyfr0gg> nightdemon666 - correct.
[21:37] <ez1> hi, i have ubuntu 12.04
[21:38] <Rolling7z> it was just a theory is all
[21:38] <ez1> im trying to update it but i find a problem
[21:38] <happyfr0gg> Rolling7z, hit me up with a private chat. I may try to help you out.
[21:38] <ez1> with the repositories, is ubuntu 12.04 no longer supported?
[21:38] <Rolling7z> if I plug in a second monitor its a blank splash screen also
[21:38] <nightdemon666> Rolling7z, linux os will only use onboard graphics chip, unless you have two, and then it can be toggled in your BIOS
[21:38] <ez1> (im in a hurry for this update)
[21:39] <f-a-h-a-d> hi guys, for testing reasons i needed to deploy ubuntu maas+juju+Openstack on a network of some virtual and some real servers ... What is the best way to begin with?
[21:40] <k1l> ez1: 12.04 got 5 years support from the release. so there is still 3 years left
[21:40] <dvheumen> hi all
[21:40] <ez1> k1l, thanks for your answer
[21:40] <ez1> where can be the problem ?
[21:40] <k1l> f-a-h-a-d: maybe its better to ask in #ubuntu-server as its more server task focused
[21:41] <f-a-h-a-d> ok thanks
[21:41] <k1l> ez1: what problem?
[21:41] <MoProductions> is installing gksudo a bad idea?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> ez1  i use 12.04 too... what goes wrong?
[21:42] <david259> good fellow :)
[21:42] <ez1> i go to software updater and it says it is not possible to update
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> MoProductions  gksu comes with sudo
[21:42] <ez1> MonkeyDust, the only problem is that im not able to install gparted
[21:42] <ez1> "failed to download repository information"
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> ez1  sudo apt-get update, first
[21:42] <Nickwiz> Anyone using Chrome? After last update it is "Aw, snap!" all the time ...
[21:42] <MoProductions> MonkeyDust: I’m trying to execute a command from a message board, but it says ti’s not installed.  considering how wonky this computer is i’m cautious about changes
[21:42] <Nickwiz> Have disabled all extensions
[21:42] <k1l> ez1: please run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and put it into a pastebin and show the link here
[21:43] <ez1> i did that MonkeyDust and k1l , im going to do again
[21:43] <ez1> ok
[21:43] <k1l> ez1: it will not make your ubuntu upgrade to a new release. it will just update all packages to latest 12.04 state
[21:43] <Nickwiz> Version 36.0.1985.125
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> MoProductions  what command would that be?
[21:43] <Beldar> ez1, Are you sure it is 12.04?
[21:44] <MoProductions> MonkeyDust: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[21:44] <Bashing-om> ez1: Presenttly there is a problem "upgrading" some versions of 12.04 to the 14.04 release. Just updateing 12.04 should have no problem. What is the results of terminal commands -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade < -?
[21:44] <ez1> ubuntu 12.10 sorry
[21:44] <k1l> MoProductions: you can run "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" in a terminal to use nano as edito
[21:44] <Beldar> bingo
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> MoProductions  it's gk su, not gksudo
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> MoProductions  it's gksu, not gksudo
[21:44] <k1l> ez1: well, 12.10 is out of order long time now
[21:45] <ez1> :O
[21:45] <k1l> !eol | ez1
[21:45] <nightdemon666> I thought the dist-upgrade command did upgrade to next release :-/ I thought 'upgrade' was the command for just updating current installed release to latest state...
[21:45] <ez1> really? lol
[21:45] <bjoswald> no, YOU'RE out of order!
[21:45] <MoProductions> k1l: I’m just trying to not break anything else and am being careful
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> bjoswald  wrong window or channel
[21:45] <MoProductions> MonkeyDust: Hm.  Ok lemme try that.  After all the wonkyness i’ve experienced lately i want to be careful
[21:45] <bjoswald> MonkeyDust, it was intentional...
[21:45] <ez1> so, 12.10 is EOL and 12.04 is not?
[21:46] <bjoswald> never mind, bad joke anyway :-b
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> ez1  idd, 12.04 is an LTS, 12.10 not
[21:46] <k1l> ez1: yes, 12.04 is LTS with 5 years support. 12.10 is no LTS.
[21:46] <ez1> in any case, thanks a lot Beldar  and k1l and monkeydust
[21:46] <JayPi> Hi! I got those messages just before the splash screen on Xubuntu 14.04 : «INFO 0wl_cfg80211_attach : Registered CFG80211 phy» and «Bluetooth : hci0 command 0x1003 tx timeout». I turned off the bluetooth... Any ideas?
[21:46] <ez1> bjoswald,  lol
[21:46] <ez1> yes im out of order xD
[21:46] <ez1> ok...there we go with the link :D
[21:47] <david259> someone could tell me a good program ubuntu14.4 3D scanner?
[21:48] <Beldar> david259, simple scan  and xsane
[21:49] <Beldar> david259, hmm 3d I may be incorrect
[21:49] <ez1> mmm i do not find in that link how to update from 12.10
[21:49] <ez1> i dont care what i have here installed,
[21:49] <ez1> but i cannot use a cd or usb, any way to install from scracth ?
[21:49] <ez1> scratch*
[21:50] <Bashing-om> nightdemon666: Nope, 'update and dist-upgrade' only deal with installed packages ( dist-upgrade is apt-get's smart mode) // "sudo do-release-upgrade" to "release upgrade"; see: man apt-get.
[21:50] <Beldar> ez1, If you need nothing out of 12.10 I would just fresh install 12.04 or 14.04
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> ez1  yes, backup and fresh install is easier en cleaner
[21:50] <david259> thank you very much, do you know if the driver of the app I can make it go smoothly?
[21:51] <ez1> but how can i do that without an external storage ?
[21:51] <Beldar> david259, I have never had a 3d printer so not sure, or what that even is. ;)
[21:51] <Phase> This is outside the scope of this channel, but does anyone know a decent guide that thoroughly explains version control (git/github as a main focus, but mercurial is cool too)? I've always just only been able to understand the basics.
[21:52] <k1l> ez1: you need to use the old-releases repos. like its told in the !eolupgrade link
[21:52] <nightdemon666> Ah, Bashing-om, thanks, what what is the difference? I notice that 'upgrade' simply updates all packages except kernel updates... Does  'dist-upgrade' do kernel updates as well?
[21:52] <gazzerh> Phase: http://git-scm.com/book
[21:52] <Beldar> ez1, YOu could use the live cd to resize the install and make a partiton to save to, or even split the home to it.
[21:52] <Phase> gazzerh: ty
[21:53] <david259> I program Arduino is now going to set up a lab with a word of state aid given to man by my projects
[21:53] <ez1> dont have cd Beldar
[21:53] <gazzerh> Phase: nps
[21:53] <ez1> anyways, thank you
[21:53] <shuggans> does apt-get upgrade update ther kernel?
[21:54] <k1l> shuggans: no
[21:54] <shuggans> Need a way to update without updating the kernel
[21:54] <shuggans> cool
[21:54] <k1l> shuggans: you need apt-get dist-upgrade for that
[21:54] <Tzunamii> apt-get dist-upgrade  # upgrades kernel as well
[21:54] <david259> South Epaña am, and I consider inventor workshop, it will be my first business and I seriously Ubuntus 3D scanner and 3D print
[21:54] <Beldar> ez1, A usb works or you could boot the iso with grub, here is a moving home, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving  here is using grub on the iso boot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[21:54] <k1l> shuggans: but its only kernel builds that get exchanged. the main-kernel version will stay the same
[21:55] <Beldar> ez1, YOU would need a dvd rather than a cd if that was your option.
[21:55] <shuggans> had to use 12.04.1 due to AppAssure causing Kernel panic on anything newer
[21:55] <david259> new program ubuntu the app 3D print is good very good
[21:55] <Bashing-om> nightdemon666: Yepper, you got it .. A new package install requires "dist-upgrade".
[21:55] <T60> Could someone help me with changing the background image in xubuntu 14.04? For some reason, after I change the config file, the background only gets set to the guest user and not my login screen.
[21:55] <david259> neme repsnapper
[21:56] <Beldar> !who | david259 just info
[21:56] <k1l> david259: do you have an actual technical support issue?
[21:57] <david259> ok sorry :)
[21:57] <T60> I am refering to the lightdm login screen.
[21:58] <k1l> T60: the users wallpaper should get loaded if the user name is selected. (if its not encrypted /home etc)
[21:59] <Beldar> ez1, You get the home transfer and iso boot info?
[21:59] <T60> k1l: sorry I don't understand, I am talking about the login screen background not the regular desktop background. I changed the lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf to the wallpaper I want for the login, but it only loads for the "guest" account and not my own.
[21:59] <jon-work> im on 12.04 LTS. why does 'sudo do-release-upgrade' say 'No new release found' ?
[22:00] <Travelinrob> I want to create a live USB stick with Ubuntu, but with most of the desktop environments. I don't want to have to install Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. But, I worry that these will cause conflicts in the user space. Is this possible? Can I make a User for each desktop environment to avoid any confict?
[22:00] <yeats> jon-work: try 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' then try again?
[22:00] <jon-work> ok. i was told (here) that apt-get dist-upgrade will not work for LTS->LTS
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> Travelinrob  pendrive's MultiSystem can do that, it creates a grub on the usb stick
[22:01] <Beldar> Travelinrob, That will need a persistent install which has rather limiting uses, a full install is better for what you describe.
[22:02] <qwerkus> Hello, did anyone manage to hack the windows 7 bootloader in EFI mode, to load the linux partition via windows boot loader ?
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> Travelinrob  you mean this? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[22:02] <Beldar> qwerkus, why bother?
[22:02] <Travelinrob> MonkeyDust: I have no problem making a multiboot usb stick. I want to install Ubuntu, and have all the desktop environments available for selection at login or used separately by user login.
[22:03] <Travelinrob> Beldar: I want to use the stick to showcase the different desktop environments using a live usb.
[22:03] <T60> Travelinrob: I think having LXDM will allow a user to pick which DE/WM to use, as long as they are downloaded.
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> Travelinrob  then simply install ubuntu and after that, install all the DE's
[22:04] <Beldar> Travelinrob, The live is really limited, I stand by what I said, if you have specific questions go ahead.
[22:04] <Travelinrob> MonkeyDust: My question was asking whether installing all of the environments would cause conflicts or missing desktop items.
[22:05] <Travelinrob> Beldar: Thank you
 because every time I boot up windows 7, I overwrites my EFI partition, and cia Grub. The only way to return to Linux is via the cumbersome live disk...
[22:05] <Beldar> Travelinrob, The main issue is that you are no matter what running off the iso, and the persistant fills up and is basically not easily cleanable.
[22:05] <glande_flatello> do u recommend me to jumt to ubuntu even i have an macbook?
[22:06] <glande_flatello> jump
[22:06] <Travelinrob> Beldar: Will it matter if it is a 16GB stick?
[22:06] <kendrick> how do I install qmake on 14?
[22:06] <T60> Does anyone know how to change the login background in Xubuntu (lightdm)? I changed the .conf file, but it the background only gets changed for the guest user and not my account.
[22:06] <Beldar> qwerkus, Sounds like an issue for the UEFI experts, virtually very little here, ubuntu forum has a few, start a thread there and have UEFI in the header if you get no help here.
[22:06] <xangua> !find qmake
[22:07] <xangua> kendrick: ^
[22:07] <Beldar> Travelinrob, That size is perfect for a full install
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> T60  some 120 people in ##xubuntu (double #)
[22:08] <Travelinrob> Beldar: So, I can just install to the usb, tell it to put the boot loader there and then boot to it from any computer that allows me boot to the device?
[22:08] <Beldar> qwerkus, Are you shutting windows and ubuntu down completely when going to either OS?
[22:10] <Beldar> Travelinrob, Pretty much yes, only limitations are graphic drivers and wifi in general. YOu could make a live in a 1.5 gig partition and use the rest as a caper-rw partition which is the persistent portion in order to have more leeway.
[22:10] <Beldar> casper-rw*
[22:11] <Travelinrob> Beldar: And what about conflicts? Are we passed that now?
[22:12] <Beldar> Travelinrob, This is not black or white, you have to just test this out we cannot under your even well described end goals give you an empirical yes or no. ;)
[22:12] <Travelinrob> Beldar: Thank you
[22:13] <Beldar> Travelinrob, I can appreciate your goals, but your knowledge in general is lacking in my opinion to give a real good overall presentation. ;)
[22:13] <pa> does rsync come with the cd installation? or does it have to be installed after?
 yes, I already started one, and we are working on the issue. The booloader hack was a long shot, hoping to find someone how actually did it...
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> pa  it comes with it
[22:14] <pa> thank you!
[22:14] <Beldar> qwerkus, Can you answer my last question?
 qwerkus, Are you shutting windows and ubuntu down completely when going to either OS?
[22:15] <Nothing_Much> Okay can somebody explain to me how to move an encrypted SSD's /home folder into a traditional HDD?
[22:15] <kendrick> can someone tell me how to install this... http://www.graphcalc.com/download.shtml
[22:16] <Beldar> qwerkus, I suspect your installing ubuntu with windows in the hybrid boot or not shutting windows off to boot ubuntu.
 yes
 no hybrid here; you are probably right in that it is UEFI related
[22:17] <Beldar> qwerkus, I will assume you know what I mean by the hybrid boot in windows.
[22:17] <chmodplusx> who's free to answer a question about aptitude?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> chmodplusx  ask and wait
[22:18] <kendrick> when I try to "make" a file I get this error. /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/uic mainform.ui -o .ui/ui_mainform.h
[22:18] <kendrick> make: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/uic: Command not found
[22:18] <kendrick> make: *** [.ui/ui_mainform.h] Error 127
[22:18] <Beldar> chmodplusx, Anyone who understands the actual issue you need to post.
[22:18] <Nothing_Much> Okay can somebody *PM* me how to move an encrypted SSD's /home folder into a traditional HDD?
[22:18] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, I don;t PM but clone it and move it or use gparted to do a copy and paste of the partition.
[22:19] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, However encrypted not sure.
[22:19] <chmodplusx> Whenever i run sudo apt-get upgrade, I'm repeatedly notified that the following packages have been kept back "linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-generic
[22:19] <chmodplusx>   linux-signed-image-generic
[22:20] <eeee> qwerkus: somebody else had this problem not long ago
[22:20] <trism> kendrick: do you have libqt4-dev-bin installed?
[22:20] <Beldar> chmodplusx, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:20] <eeee> qwerkus: try to dosfsck your efi boot partition
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> chmodplusx  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[22:20] <chmodplusx> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[22:21] <chmodplusx> aptitude is working its magic. thank you
[22:21] <kendrick> trism, no i don't
[22:21] <qwerkus> Beldar: hybrid boot is for win 8; i'm running win 7
[22:21] <trism> kendrick: that's where I see that uic command
[22:21] <antonio2> Hey folks...having a hard time installing amarok..getting some errors..brb with the errors
[22:21] <qwerkus> <eeee: you mean every time ? the partition is new and has just been created 2 hours ago !
[22:21] <Beldar> qwerkus, Cool just making sure we never know here what the other understands. ;)
[22:22] <antonio2> says "requires installation of untrusted packages" cancel or repai
[22:22] <antonio2> repair
[22:22] <eeee> qwerkus: iirc he'd get a couple boots out of it by selecting ubuntu in the bios menu, then it'd disappear and somehow grub would go missing
[22:23] <k1l> antonio2: which ubuntu exactly?
[22:23] <Beldar> !details | antonio2
[22:23] <eeee> qwerkus: /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu was empty, no grubx64.efi, and when reinstalling he couldn't, due to corruption apparently, so he dosfsck the partition and it all worked out
[22:23] <eeee> (after reinstalling grub)
[22:23] <Beldar> antonio2, Pastebin the whole install from using the terminal.
[22:24] <Beldar> antonio2, Have you added additional repos and left out the signing key?
[22:25] <antonio2> wait..from temrinal looks like its working....was trying the softare center at first
[22:25] <Beldar> !who > antonio2
[22:25] <shuggans> anyone know how to set zoneminder to save images/events to a different volume?
[22:26] <Travelinrob> Beldar: My knowledge is lacking in installing multiple environments within the same install. I had done it a long time ago and ran into weird things like missing clocks in different environments, etc.
[22:26] <antonio2> beldar: here is the pastebin
[22:26] <antonio2> http://pastebin.com/sB1uLe1F
[22:27] <Beldar> antonio2, suso apt-get install amarok
[22:27] <Beldar> sudo*
[22:27] <david259> anyone has a solution for this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2236607
[22:27] <k1l> antonio2: quantal is out of order.
[22:27] <Travelinrob> Beldar: Is there a way to assign one environment to different users so there is no conflict within each users environment files?
[22:27] <k1l> !eol | antonio2
[22:27] <antonio2> beldar: thats what I did
[22:28] <Beldar> Travelinrob, NOt sure
[22:28] <Travelinrob> Beldar: ok. I appreciate your time.
[22:28] <Beldar> antonio2, Ah your are running a eol, you need to upgrade.
[22:28] <k1l> antonio2: 12.10 is not supported anymore. read the bots message how to upgrade to a supported ubuntu version -> 14.04 ( cc Beldar )
[22:30] <Beldar> k1l, Heh, beat you to it. ;)
[22:30] <antonio2> beldar: whats the chance something will break if I upgrade?
 no error in the partition here. Yet editing the windows boot manager path via bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi seems to work
[22:30] <Beldar> antonio2, Not a black and white scenario, most work some do not, back it up to be safe.
[22:31] <k1l> antonio2: that is not the question. the question is how will you make backups and will you upgrade 12.10->13.04->13.10->14.04 or will you reinstall 14.04 directly
[22:31] <Beldar> +1 k1l
[22:31] <eeee> qwerkus: that's good.
[22:31] <antonio2> ugh
 yes. It's not a real fix, but it feels awesome to know that windows is actually loading grub2...
[22:32] <Beldar> antonio2, That is what we say, you should know this. ;)
[22:32] <k1l> antonio2: if you plan to not upgrade a long time stay on LTS versions (which is 14.04)
[22:33] <eeee> qwerkus: actually some bioses are hard-coded to load windows, you'd have to switch the files in the efi partition and rename grub to windows (bootx64.efi) to get it to load
[22:35] <eeee> (or do what you've done)
 how sad is that, really ? anyone owns an asrock z77e-itx here ? Because I do, and it turns out to be a tracherous windows hugger...
[22:35] <eeee> qwerkus: i dont think there's another fix for it
 sure there is: I'm one my way to petition Asrock
[22:36] <eeee> qwerkus: yeah, i own an hp and it is hard-coded as well, it doesn't erase grub though, just won't boot it
 well, without going to much off topic, I think this will interest the EU antitrust commitee. I think filing a complaint there will work better.
[22:38] <qwerkus> anyway: thanks for your help, and thumbs up for the future
[22:38] <eeee> qwerkus: no problem, and best of luck.
[22:47] <dirtyvega> hey guys. i was just curious if anyone could help me install spotify on Ubuntu 14.04 lts... I have the 64 bit and its done... being as my computer is a little bit older i had to do the gnome metacity fallback instead of Unity. They have the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10... but obv
[22:47] <dirtyvega> iously its only for people who have unity.... :(
[22:49] <Beldar> dirtyvega, spotify is 3rd party technically not supported.
[22:50] <gazzerh> dirtyvega: i use http://play.spotify.com personally. the linux program is pretty buggy. maybe not much help but hey :P
[22:50] <MoProductions> what exactly is unity?  I keep getting it confused with the game def software i use
[22:50] <Beldar> dirtyvega, THe lnik tells you exactly how, what is it that confounds you?
[22:50] <Beldar> link*
[22:50] <k1l> !unity | MoProductions
[22:51] <MoProductions> wow thank you
[22:51] <MoProductions> so unity is what makes this thing remind me of osx
[22:52] <k1l> MoProductions: unity is a desktop enviroment.
[22:52] <dirtyvega> i need help finding the "software sources" and since i disabled unity and installed the fallback gnome i dont have the luxury
[22:52] <Beldar> dirtyvega, Unity just happens to be the ubuntu desktop=unity, it is not just for unity.
[22:53] <dirtyvega> i know but the instructions are for unity
[22:53] <dirtyvega> i dont want unity
[22:53] <MoProductions> i want it to be named something else
[22:53] <dirtyvega> i need help finding the software sources window
[22:53] <Beldar> dirtyvega, The instructions are for installing while just happening to show this via the unity desktop.
[22:53] <k1l> MoProductions: to late. but its obvious that its not the game engine that is talked about
[22:54] <MoProductions> k1l: It’ll still be confusing for a while.  when I see something in a file that says “Unity generated” i don’t know which one it’s talking about
[22:54] <eeee> dirtyvega: run software-properties-gtk
[22:54] <k1l> MoProductions: there is nothing we can do abou that.
[22:54] <Nothing_Much> Okay can somebody *PM* me how to move an encrypted SSD's /home folder into a traditional HDD?
[22:55] <magicsack> Hi there ll, I am getting Generall error mounting file systems a main - shell/// upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 - any suggestoins?
[22:55] <compdoc> Nothing_Much, once you log in, cant you see the files?
[22:55] <Beldar> dirtyvega, the addition at the software & sources is this file, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put the deb there than save and run the key adding command after closing .
[22:55] <k1l> dirtyvega: just start the program: software-properties-gtk
[22:55] <Nothing_Much> compdoc: Well I can
[22:55] <Nothing_Much> But like
[22:55] <Nothing_Much> I'm confused
[22:55] <Nothing_Much> Somebody PM'd me
[22:55] <Nothing_Much> And he didn't explain anything
[22:56] <compdoc> Nothing_Much, they arent encripted once youre in there. Just use nautilus to move them
[22:56] <MoProductions> k1l: That’s ok, i’ll get used to it eventually heh.  Unity’s not exactly an uncommon word
[22:56] <Nothing_Much> compdoc: I mean for the OS to also..
[22:56] <k1l> Nothing_Much: you asked for a PM (which is not the guideline with the ubuntu support) and now wonder that someone pmed you?
[22:56] <Nothing_Much> Bah
[22:56] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, Ask the question again and use the channel, and hold off the enter key so much.
[22:56] <Nothing_Much> Alright
[22:56] <k1l> Nothing_Much: for that we use peer-review in the channel and dont go pm
[22:57] <Nothing_Much> Okay can somebody explain to me how to move an encrypted SSD's /home folder into a traditional HDD? I have an SSD that's encrypted, I want to move the /home partition to a 1TB HDD that I would also like encrypted
[22:57] <david259> help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1N-EEIJao
[22:57] <Nothing_Much> How do I do that?
[22:57] <compdoc> Nothing_Much, once you move teh files to another folder somewhere, hopefully a network share or another drive, they wont be encripted
[22:58] <k1l> Nothing_Much: decrypt them and then copy them? where is your issue with that task?
[22:59] <Nothing_Much> Basically I'm wondering how to encrypt it again on the HDD
[22:59] <Nothing_Much> And so that the SSD will boot into the /home directory
[22:59] <compdoc> if you copy them to an encripted drive, they become encripted again
[23:00] <valhallasw`cloud> Hey. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, and would like to upgrade to 14.04.1 LTS. However, do-release-upgrade wants to upgrade me to 12.10 instead, possibly because I have installed packages from newer releases in the past by adding apt-get lines for them. Is there any way to force do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 14.04?
[23:01] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: make the release-prompt show LTS
[23:01] <kendrick> valhallasw`cloud, idk... after you upgrade though you can then attempt to upgrade to 14.04
[23:01] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: see /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[23:02] <valhallasw`cloud> kendrick: I'm afraid I would have to go via 13.04, 13.10 then 14.04
[23:02] <valhallasw`cloud> k1l: I only have a directory release-upgrades.d, which is empty
[23:02] <xangua> Or just clean install
[23:02] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: and if you mixed the packages already there is more risk of a failure in the upgrade. (the clean 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade get automatic testing and work)
[23:03] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: that is a file, not a directory
[23:03] <k1l> see "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[23:03] <kendrick> how is mac osx better than ubuntu?
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> kendrick  nicer wallpapers
[23:03] <k1l> kendrick: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: it isnt.
[23:03] <kendrick> lmao
[23:03] <valhallasw`cloud> k1l: that file does not exist. There is a directory release-upgrades.d (note the .d)
[23:03] <Beldar> !ot | kendrick
[23:04] <dirtyvega> HEY GUIZ! it worked.
[23:04] <dirtyvega> ty
[23:04] <valhallasw`cloud> but I guess a clean install might be an option, too.
[23:04] <dirtyvega> for the help
[23:04] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: you are sure that is a ubuntu right there?
[23:05] <valhallasw`cloud> k1l: Yes, I installed it myself ;-) and lsb_release -a states Description: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, and do-release-upgrade -c returns Checking for a new Ubuntu release New release '12.10' available.
[23:06] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: try "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core"
[23:06] <xangua> valhallasw`cloud: is this a server install?
[23:07] <valhallasw`cloud> k1l: that updated update-manager-core 1:<IP_ADDRESS>  to 1:<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:07] <valhallasw`cloud> xangua: yes
[23:07] <valhallasw`cloud> k1l: but release-upgrades.d stays empty
[23:07] <k1l> valhallasw`cloud: its not about the .d
[23:07] <k1l> its about that specific file it told you
[23:08] <valhallasw`cloud> okay, apt-get remove + apt-get install seems to have fixed that
[23:09] <magicsack> Hi all, I am trying to upgrade to 12.04. I a getting this: General error mounting filesystems. A maintenence shell will now be started. Control -D will terminate this shell and reboot system. reboot@ubuntu.  I do this, the Ctrl + D and it returns to the same screen.  Do you have any suggestions? It will not run the upgrade?.
[23:10] <valhallasw`cloud> ah, there we go.
[23:10] <valhallasw`cloud> k1l: okay, seems to be working now. Thanks!
[23:12] <Beldar> magicsack, What file system, more context please.
[23:13] <magicsack> I am upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04.  and it is not telling me any other information... when i tell it to reboot it says fail on on deconfil on network on network interface
[23:13] <Beldar> !eol | magicsack look at the eol upgrade
[23:14] <Beldar> magicsack, THis a wubi install?
[23:15] <magicsack> ah/dev/shm:not mounted - /var/lock/locl not mounted
[23:15] <magicsack> (not ah)
[23:16] <magicsack> I am installing 12.04 on the basis the specs of the machine are very poor - if i should do something else I am willing to do lubuntu if better
[23:16] <Beldar> magicsack, You have yet to answer requests, questions oe give a cohesive description.
[23:17] <Beldar> or*
[23:17] <Beldar> help start there
[23:19] <magicsack> apologies - this is a straight  upgrade from 10 to 12. not not sure what you mean, so I am so sorry...
[23:19] <Beldar> magicsack, This an on-line computer?
[23:19] <magicsack> ah, yes, it will be
[23:20] <magicsack> I originally had issues installing a huawi dongle, so thought the issue was the age of the o/s
[23:20] <Beldar> magicsack, Is it in front of you, or are is it accessible via the web or a network?
[23:20] <magicsack> it is
[23:20] <Beldar> magicsack, READ THE QUESTIONS.
[23:21] <Beldar> the last was 2 questions
[23:21] <magicsack> I have my own laptop and the computer and the computer - separate and access to the internet
[23:22] <Beldar> magicsack, I give up others may help.
[23:23] <magicsack> sorry Beldar, I have been at work and its past midnight and i appreciate your help. It is in front of me, it is not on a network, but is on the web
[23:28] <boo> i have xubuntu libraries question, I am trying to install Zimbra but it says libgmp3c2 is missing, i try to apt-get it and it refers to libgmp4
[23:29] <boo> i have libgmp4 installed butzimbra doesnt see it
[23:31] <boo> i have xubuntu libraries question, I am trying to install Zimbra but it says libgmp3c2 is missing, i try to apt-get it and it refers to libgmp4
[23:31] <boo> i have libgmp4 installed but zimbra doesnt see it
[23:32] <mavidoritos> hello
[23:32] <mavidoritos> i did somethings on my system. now it says 'read only file system'
[23:32] <okabe> anyone else getting crackling audio with 14.04?
[23:32] <mavidoritos> what is the read only file system :)
[23:33] <mavidoritos> i dont know what i did
[23:33] <AmyLu_Who> What is a good program to use instead of quick books?  I need to keep a log of expenses and sales and print receipts and such.
[23:33] <thiebaude> okabe, with hdmi?
[23:34] <okabe> thiebaude, no standard audio. it's faint but it's quite noticeable playing music
[23:34] <thiebaude> ok
[23:34] <thiebaude> okabe, i only heard that when I had ubuntu 14.04 connected to a hd tv
[23:34] <okabe> yeah i saw a lot of hdmi related stuff googling around
[23:35] <okabe> also saw something hinting at being the current kernel
[23:35] <thiebaude> okabe, is your microphone muted?
[23:35] <okabe> thiebaude, i have no microphone hooked up
[23:35] <thiebaude> ok
[23:36] <okabe> but alsamixer say it's muted
[23:36] <thiebaude> hmm
[23:36] <okabe> maybe if i turn down pcm
[23:37] <okabe> it seems particular to this release
[23:41] <Iota-Spencer> I can't seem to get my interfaces file + ip addr to work, I have the block in interfaces and have restarted networking but when I try ip addr add it says it can't find the device
[23:42] <Iota-Spencer> this is particularly with an he.net tunnel
[23:43] <jose__> hola majos
[23:43] <jose__> como va la noche
[23:44] <k1l> !es | jose__
[23:53] <Iota-Spencer> I can't seem to get my interfaces file + ip addr to work, I have the block in interfaces and have restarted networking but when I try ip addr add it says it can't find the device
[23:55] <usr13> Iota-Spencer: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces  #And we will have a look.
[23:56] <usr13> Iota-Spencer: Send us the URL