[02:06] <CIA-52> apt-setup: cjwatson * r144 apt-setup/ (debian/changelog generators/50mirror.ubuntu):
[02:06] <CIA-52> apt-setup: Fix description of universe in generated sources.list: packages there
[02:06] <CIA-52> apt-setup: are expected to be under a free licence.
[02:16] <evand> cjwatson: Is it generally acceptable to use purge-old-images to get rid of bad DVD builds, or should I generally just let than run on its own?
[02:17] <evand> The last DVD build I ran was a bust, and I'm planning on starting another soon as I believe I've resolved the issue.
[02:19] <evand> hrm, I probably should have asked that in -release.  Moving the conversation there
[02:27] <cjwatson> just rm -rf them if you want
[02:27] <evand> ah, ok
[02:27] <StevenK> And sync-mirrors if you want them to actually disappear
[02:29] <evand> thanks
[03:07] <CIA-52> ubiquity: evand * r2883 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): Bump to 1.10.5
[03:11] <CIA-52> ubiquity: evand * r2884 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog rules ubiquity.install-any):
[03:11] <CIA-52> ubiquity: Filter out the net subsystem when calling update-dev to prevent the
[03:11] <CIA-52> ubiquity: network connection from resetting (LP: #276383).
[04:41] <yannickm> Hi, anyone on ?
[04:45] <yannickm> I have a weird problem. I've had to recreate the Packages for the udebs in order to customize an installer CD (so by running
[04:45] <yannickm> apt-ftparchive -c $APTCONF generate /opt/apt-ftparchive/apt-ftparchive-udeb.conf). The problem is that the Packages file that is generated comes in a different order than the one on the CD, and that's strangely breaking the installer by making it try to use PPPOE when it shouldn't (!?). I wrote a small script that re-orders the file in the same order than the original one, and that fixes the problem. Any idea what's going on ?
[04:45] <yannickm>
[04:45] <yannickm>
[05:01] <evand> cjwatson: I've provided a new patch for bug 276656 that I think addresses your and superm1's concerns.  Can you give it a look over?
[05:18] <yannickm> hi cjwatson are you still here ?
[06:34] <TheMuso> cjwatson: For asking the user about dmraid arrays to work, changes have to be amde in hw-detect and partman-base. I dare say the question could be better phrased, but this is what I came up with at the time.
[06:34] <TheMuso> cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/55523/ <- hw-detect
[06:35] <TheMuso> cjwatson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/55524/ <- partman-base
[09:24] <cjwatson> TheMuso: I think that's fine, although your partman-base diff only has the changelog change
[09:25] <cjwatson> TheMuso: perhaps 'mkdir -p /var/lib/disk-detect; touch /var/lib/disk-detect/activate_dmraid' rather than touching /tmp/activate_dmraid, to future-proof for ubiquity
[09:30] <TheMuso> cjwatson: heh right, I forgot to include the parman-base change in the diff. :) It was basically checking for the existance of that file before skipping the physical drives as part of the array.
[09:57] <cjwatson> yeah
[09:58] <cjwatson> TheMuso: what's responsible for calling 'apt-install dmraid'?
[10:30] <persia> I'm seeing some oddities in ${partman-depends} and ${bootloader-depends} in ubiquity 1.10.4.  At least none of i386, amd64, or lpia seem to depend on ntfsprogs, and lpia doesn't seem to depend on grub.  I'm not going to look at it for a few hours, in case someone else is interested.
[10:35] <cjwatson> persia: I'm not sure about lpia/grub but spot the typo for ntfsprogs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/55553/
[10:35] <xivulon> does 278873 ring any bell? the chap cannot boot when usplash is on
[10:38] <persia> cjwatson, Cool.  That at least makes it only me again :)  Nice catch.
[10:48]  * StevenK can't spot the typo
[10:48] <StevenK> Ah, got it
[10:48] <StevenK> Nicely subtly
[10:48] <StevenK> Sigh. Subtle
[11:02] <CIA-52> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2885 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog rules): Fix typo in architecture detection for ntfsprogs dependency.
[11:14] <cjwatson> persia: I'm confused about the other one, since amd64 and i386 are working fine. Does 'dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU' not output lpia on lpia or something?
[11:15] <cjwatson> <cjwatson@sarantium ~>$ sudo chroot /chroot/intrepid-lpia
[11:15] <cjwatson> [sudo] password for cjwatson:
[11:15] <cjwatson> root@sarantium:/# dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU
[11:15] <cjwatson> i686
[11:15] <cjwatson> oww, surely that's a bug
[11:15] <cjwatson> (old chroot, though)
[11:15] <persia> Hrm.  Interesting.  That's probably a bug somewhere else though.
[11:15] <cjwatson> in dpkg :-/
[11:15] <persia> No, I get the same in my chroot.
[11:16]  * persia tries on hardware
[11:19] <cjwatson> looks like lpia is just weird and needs to be handled separate
[11:19] <cjwatson> ly
[11:19] <cjwatson> I'll just check DEB_HOST_ARCH for that
[11:20] <cjwatson> I don't think changing the CPU name is a good idea
[11:20] <persia> Not a good idea at all, or not a good idea for intrepid?
[11:21] <cjwatson> I'm not sure ...
[11:21] <TheMuso> cjwatson: Do you mean when setting things up for partitioning, or once partitioning is done and the installation is under way?
[11:21] <cjwatson> dpkg's architecture detection always gives me a headache, and we can definitely assume that there's lots of stuff relying on it
[11:22] <cjwatson> TheMuso: it doesn't matter when it's called; apt-install will queue the package until it's possible to install it in /target
[11:22] <cjwatson> TheMuso: but it surely has to be called somewhere or else /target won't get dmraid
[11:22] <persia> Ah, good point, and it being wrong this long probably means the entire archive would need a rebuild to fix it.
[11:22] <TheMuso> cjwatson: RIght, I am not sure, since that was already working when I did the extra support work.
[11:22] <TheMuso> So I didn't see a need to chase that up.
[11:22] <cjwatson> TheMuso: see, I thought partman-dmraid did it ;-)
[11:23] <cjwatson> although apparently not
[11:23] <TheMuso> No, it wasn't.
[11:25] <CIA-52> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2886 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog rules): Work around lpia having DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU=i686 (!).
[11:27] <TheMuso> cjwatson: I'll have the dmraid activation question ready for upload tomorrow morning. I assume ubuntu-release is responsible for UI freeze exceptions?
[11:31] <cjwatson> yeah
[11:31] <cjwatson> thanks
[11:35] <persia> cjwatson, I even get i686 on hardware.  Thanks for thinking of that, and fixing it.
[13:29] <yannickm1>  I have a weird problem. I've had to recreate the Packages for the udebs  in order to customize an installer CD (so by running apt-ftparchive -c $APTCONF generate  /opt/apt-ftparchive/apt-ftparchive-udeb.conf). The problem is that the  Packages file that is generated comes in a different order than the one  on the CD, and that's strangely breaking the installer by making it try  to use PPPOE when it shouldn't (!?). I wrote a
[13:32] <yannickm1> i'm using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices/override.hardy.main.debian-installer btw
[14:53] <CIA-52> apt-setup: cjwatson * r145 apt-setup/debian/ (apt-setup-udeb.postinst changelog):
[14:53] <CIA-52> apt-setup: Run 'apt-get update', without downloading package lists or cleaning up
[14:53] <CIA-52> apt-setup: old files, after moving the sources.list generated during base system
[14:53] <CIA-52> apt-setup: installation back into place (LP: #267884).
[14:54] <CIA-52> pkgsel: cjwatson * r120 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog postinst):
[14:54] <CIA-52> pkgsel: Don't download package lists again after moving the final sources.list
[14:54] <CIA-52> pkgsel: into place (LP: #267884).
[14:56] <CIA-52> apt-setup: cjwatson * r146 apt-setup/debian/changelog: releasing version 1:0.37ubuntu5
[14:57] <CIA-52> pkgsel: cjwatson * r121 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.20ubuntu8
[15:24]  * evand sighs at the archive still being broken
[15:28] <evand> oh, it looks like the DVD build just got caught between compiz uploads.  I retract my former statement.
[16:04] <cjwatson> evand: could you act on bug 234185, please? it should just be a matter of adding a boot parameter for alternate/server CDs
[16:09] <evand> will do
[16:15] <cjwatson> thanks
[16:41] <kirkland> cjwatson: hi, i'm trying to digest the conversation between you and soren in bug #257739
[16:42] <kirkland> cjwatson: and moreover to determine how long ago, or recently that was
[16:42] <cjwatson> 25th Sep
[16:42] <kirkland> cjwatson: okay, and has any of the module juggling been enacted?
[16:43] <cjwatson> not to my knowledge; I asked Soren to take it up with the kernel team
[16:43] <kirkland> cjwatson: rick has asked me to take over that bug and fix it immediately, he's making it release critical
[16:51] <kirkland> cjwatson: for posterity, where are you checking the location of these modules?
[16:51] <cjwatson> dpkg -c /mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/foo.udeb
[16:51] <kirkland> cjwatson: oh
[16:51] <kirkland> cjwatson: okay, thanks.
[16:51] <cjwatson> local mirror++
[20:31] <evand> Should the UUIDs go in the groot option in menu.lst, or should they go into their own guuid option that overrides the groot if set?
[20:31] <evand> I'm leaning towards the latter, but suggestions welcome.
[20:32] <evand> (this is for setting the GRUB root device by UUID rather than GRUB device name)
[20:32] <cjwatson> what's the benefit to them being separate?
[20:34] <evand> None, I just have to take special care to not write uuid /dev/sda1 it's set as such, but that's obviously easy.
[20:34] <evand> Well none that I can think of
[20:35] <cjwatson> oh, did cking introduce a new command for it rather than have root able to handle UUIDs?
[20:35] <cjwatson> I don't much mind either way, just try to keep the upgrade logic simple at this point
[20:40] <evand> indeed, he used uuid
[20:40] <evand> noted though
[21:09] <evand> cjwatson: I'm assuming then that you mean it should try to upgrade grub device names to UUIDs, where possible?
[21:09] <evand> (the simple case of writing UUIDs the first time out is working, by the way)
[21:15] <cjwatson> hmm, I'm not sure about that much
[21:15] <cjwatson> at least not this late in the intrepid game; that's risky
[21:16] <cjwatson> my comment was much vaguer than that, I just meant making sure that all that logic in update-grub to fish values out of menu.lst and write them back is simple enough to be easily verifiable
[21:16] <cjwatson> or at least that the diff to it is simple
[21:21] <kirkland> cjwatson: curious behavior I'm seeing ...
[21:24] <kirkland> cjwatson: / on RAID1, the installer correctly prompts for BOOT_DEGRADED
[21:25] <kirkland> cjwatson: but if /boot is on RAID1, the question isn't presented
[21:25] <kirkland> cjwatson: IIUC, the question is presented by the installation of the mdadm udeb, right?
[21:26] <evand> cjwatson: noted
[21:28] <cjwatson> kirkland: that's what I thought
[21:28] <cjwatson> but it's your code :)
[21:28] <kirkland> cjwatson: yeah, this is bothering me :-)
[21:28] <cjwatson> is mdadm getting installed in /target?
[21:28] <kirkland> cjwatson: yeah, absolutely
[21:28] <kirkland> cjwatson: and it operates correctly, post install, etc.
[21:28] <cjwatson> oh, no, it's not presented by installing mdadm
[21:28] <cjwatson> that only asks at priority medium
[21:29] <kirkland> cjwatson: right, there was some trick we used to get it to be presented post partman-base
[21:29] <cjwatson> yeah, I've completely forgotten where you put it
[21:29] <kirkland> cjwatson: :-)  me too, let me dig....
[21:30] <kirkland> cjwatson: i thought it was in the mdadm udeb
[21:30] <cjwatson> oh yes, mdadm ships a check.d script
[21:30] <kirkland> cjwatson: aha!
[21:30] <kirkland> cjwatson: faulty logic in there
[21:30] <cjwatson> kirkland: are both / and /boot on RAID1?
[21:30] <kirkland>                                 if [ "$mp" = "/" ] || [ "$mp" = "/boot" ]; then
[21:31] <cjwatson> that seems perfectly reasonable
[21:31] <kirkland> cjwatson: yeah...
[21:31] <kirkland> cjwatson: oh
[21:31] <cjwatson> you need:
[21:31] <cjwatson> -done
[21:31] <cjwatson> +done | head -n1
[21:31] <kirkland> cjwatson: i thin ki need to break
[21:31] <cjwatson> or you could break
[21:31] <kirkland> cjwatson: yup, that's it
[21:31] <kirkland> cjwatson: patch forthcoming ;-)
[21:32] <cjwatson> stick it on pastebin, I'll apply it forthwith
[21:32] <kirkland> you want the one liner, or a whole debdiff in pastebin?
[21:32] <cjwatson> one-liner is fine
[21:33] <cjwatson> and a suggested changelog message since I'm tired
[21:33] <kirkland> no prob
[21:35] <kirkland> cjwatson: http://pastebin.com/f3b0691e1
[21:36] <cjwatson> kirkland: uploaded, thanks
[21:37] <kirkland> cjwatson: hey, thank you for the sanity check ;-)
[21:38] <kirkland> cjwatson: the request for getting all, or some, of the RAID fixes ported back to hardy are starting to mount
[21:38] <kirkland> cjwatson: i was going to wait until Intrepid releases
[21:38] <kirkland> cjwatson: and perhaps put together a list of what I think would need to be backported, see how important it is to rick/nick
[21:38] <kirkland> cjwatson: and get your take on it, of course
[21:39] <kirkland> cjwatson: i think we could do a couple of fairly straightforward fixes, without getting too deep into the installer
[21:39] <kirkland> cjwatson: fix it for running systems only
[21:40] <cjwatson> ok, happy to think about it after 30 Oct :-)
[21:40] <cjwatson> we should do a bit of a push for 8.04.2 anyway
[21:40] <kirkland> cjwatson: sounds perfectly reasonable
[21:40] <kirkland> cjwatson: thanks for considering


[03:11] <nhaines> pleia2: Passes for SCALE work the way they have for the past four years.  Register but don't pay, and the SCALE Exhibitor Kit will include a coupon code.  Whoever's managing that for the team can collect all the registration IDs for the team and use the coupon to register them for free.
[03:11] <nhaines> As before, we'll get 5 passes for the booth.
[03:15] <pleia2> nhaines: thanks :)
[03:20]  * nhaines 's registration number is 16.
[03:49] <MarkDude> Severed Fifth show Dec 17th in Alameda, who wants to rock?
[11:17] <iheartubuntu> good morning :)
[18:41] <BotenAnna> does anyone here know how one might put ascii escape sequences in a read command?
[18:41] <BotenAnna> for example, I'm doing this to make a prompt red to attract attention:
[18:41] <BotenAnna> echo -e "\033[1;31m" && read -p 'Press Ctrl+C NOW if files did not download correctly. Otherwise, press the any key to continue.' && echo -e "\033[0m"
[18:42] <BotenAnna> but if you press ctrl+c it's going to not display the ascii reset sequence :X
[18:49] <akk> Does the user's input have to be in red too? I'd just make the prompt in red, and change the color back at the end of that echo before the read.
[18:51] <Faqtotum> echo -e "\033[1;31mPress Ctrl+C NOW if files did not download correctly. Otherwise, press the any key to continue.\033[0m" && read
[18:51] <Faqtotum> duh
[18:52] <BotenAnna> Faqtotum: :facepalm:
[18:52] <BotenAnna> it's always something simple :D
[18:53] <Faqtotum> echo -e "\e[1;31mPress Ctrl+C NOW if files did not download correctly. Otherwise, press the any key to continue.\e[0m" && read
[18:53] <Faqtotum> shorter
[19:39] <BotenAnna> https://plus.google.com/103184405956510785630/posts/ZzztLskr2rV i guess we're having a charm school for nerds on the internet?
[20:28] <nhaines> BotenAnna: needs more blink code.
[20:28] <BotenAnna> nhaines: maybe for version 2.0
[23:14] <BotenAnna> freakin bash scripting it does everything so obnoxiously different than anything im used to :(
[23:15] <BotenAnna> how do you do a simple math operation and assign it to a variable?! WHO KNOWS????
[23:15] <BotenAnna>         RNUM = $RANDOM % 5
[23:15] <BotenAnna> apparently it wants to murder me in my sleep for trying something obvious like this
[23:16] <pleia2> bash is not so good for math
[23:17] <pleia2> typically you'd call something like bc
[23:17] <BotenAnna> i just need to come up with a random number an assign it to a thing D:
[23:17] <pleia2> ah
[23:22] <BotenAnna> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1387497 (ノ｀m´)ノ ~┻━┻
[23:23] <BotenAnna> so not sure what this wants from me
[23:23] <BotenAnna> ./test.shell: line 4: [: RNUM: integer expression expected
[23:24] <BotenAnna> how is -ne 5 not an integer expression asdfasdadsfd
[23:24]  * BotenAnna is reminded every time she tries to learn shell scripting why she gave up last time
[23:32]  * BotenAnna gives up, writes in perl isntead


[00:17] <gmag> Golfgeo, try to go to BIOS, then leave BIOS and then press shift
[00:36] <Golfgeo> krytarik: found the awnser
[00:36] <Golfgeo> gmag: found the awnser
[00:36] <Golfgeo> Thanks though! :-)
[00:38] <gmag> Golfgeo, share
[00:45] <Golfgeo> in the /etc/default/grub file add a # before the hiden time out= some number of seconds
[00:45] <Golfgeo> and then run the update-grub command
[00:46] <Golfgeo> not to find out which kernel version is giving me a hard-lockup haha
[00:46] <Golfgeo> *now
[00:54] <Golfgeo> gtg people
[01:05] <S1lly> hello, could someone help me here
[01:05] <S1lly> i want to copy some archives using the terminal
[01:05] <S1lly> i want to copy the files from this folder
[01:05] <S1lly> /home/yovani/Desktop/Carpeta%20sin%20t%C3%ADtulo/archivos%20a%20reemplazar/
[01:05] <S1lly> to this one
[01:05] <S1lly> file:///opt/WorldOfGoo/libs32/libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0
[01:05] <S1lly> could someone tell me how to do it
[01:05] <S1lly> ?
[01:07] <Unit193> The second one is a file, can't copy a folder to a file.  But, cp /path/to/file (and just type Carpe then hit tab for the file) and then the location you want it at, so cp /home/yovani/Desktop/Cap<tab> /opt/WorldOfGoo/libs32/
[01:08] <S1lly> thx!
[01:12] <S1lly> excuse me
[01:12] <S1lly> i got another question
[01:13] <S1lly> why when i hit alt + f2
[01:13] <S1lly> and enter this
[01:13] <S1lly> gksu nautilus
[01:13] <S1lly> why doesn't it open the root window ?
[01:13] <Unit193> Because nautilus isn't installed by default, try thunar.
[01:13] <S1lly> let's see
[01:13] <SonikkuAmerica> S1lly: Also because you should be using gksudo!
[01:14] <Unit193> SonikkuAmerica: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 18  2012 /usr/bin/gksudo -> gksu
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Sometimes I forget myself, but that's key to understanding XFCE: XFCE != GNOME
[01:14] <S1lly> well has always work with that
[01:14] <S1lly> so no need to be angry :P
[01:15] <S1lly> thx! Unit193
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Unit193: Apparently when my back was turned they merged the 2 commands into 1
[01:16] <Unit193> SonikkuAmerica: No, you're thinking sudo and gksudo/gksu.
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Or maybe that too.
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> I was told "Never ever as long as you live use "su" or "gksu" in Ubuntu (for obvious reasons).
[01:17] <SonikkuAmerica> "
[01:19] <S1lly> thank you so mutch unit193
[01:19] <S1lly> i got it working now
[01:19] <S1lly> thx for you're support
[01:19] <S1lly> and bey
[01:20] <Unit193> Sure.
[01:28] <S1lly> uhm hi again Unit193
[01:28] <S1lly> excuse me sir
[01:28] <S1lly> but
[01:28] <knome> !enter | S1lly
[01:28] <S1lly> do you know why don't i have sound when playing quake 3 arena
[01:28] <S1lly> ?
[01:29] <knome> S1lly, i'd look at the wine appdb to see if it's supposed to work
[01:29] <knome> S1lly, and for support and ideas
[01:29] <S1lly> don't have it by wine
[01:29] <S1lly> have it from linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86
[01:30] <S1lly> Knome:
[01:32] <knome> S1lly, i have no experience on that. i'd recommend looking on google or the ubuntu forums while you wait for somebody who knows to maybe pop up
[01:33] <Unit193> !sound
[01:33] <S1lly> you know someone who might know?
[01:34] <S1lly> is their a xubuntu channel in quakenet that could help??
[01:34] <knome> S1lly, i'm pretty sure there are people who know it, but i can't guarantee they will be on this channel in the near future, which is why i recommended to look elsewhere
[01:34] <S1lly> yes i know
[01:34] <knome> might or might not be
[01:34] <S1lly> thank you anyways
[01:36] <S1lly> thx! looks helpful
[11:47] <RyanL> Hey I need help :S
[11:47] <RyanL> Is there anybody out there?
[11:49] <lderan_> RyanL: what is your problem?
[11:51] <RyanL> My grub is messed up. Can anyone explain to me how to just remove it and the ubuntu installation?
[11:52] <lderan-work> are you duel booting and wanting to remove the ubuntu partition and return to your other os?
[11:56] <RyanL> well what happened was that I was dual booting. I wanted to get rid of the partition that I had made for linux since for some reason it installed it on the same partition. I restarted and got the error: no such partition grub rescue. So I tried reinstalling ubuntu. Now when I boot I get the error
[11:56] <RyanL> error: unknown filesystem grub
[11:57] <RyanL> I just wanted to remove the grub bootloader and ubuntu.
[12:01] <RyanL> any ideas?
[12:01] <lderan-work> RyanL: well if your other os is windows then the recovery cd will replace grub then you can remove the ubuntu partition. This is the support channel for xubuntu, so you may find more help in #ubuntu
[12:02] <RyanL> I have a recovery partition. No recovery cd
[12:22] <stoeptegel> does anyone know when we can buy the new ubuntu phone
[15:14] <xubuntu437> Alguien de aquí habla español?
[15:15] <TheSheep> !es
[20:24] <xubuntun00b> Hi everyone. I was wondering if someone could help me with my MSI WIND L2100 NETBOOK and Xubuntu 12.04 LTS. Everything is working except audio
[20:26] <xubuntun00b> can someone help me pls
[20:27] <num7> Hi i just install sauerbraten its a 3d shooter, but i can start it i just popup for a second and close. This is the message i can see in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/s9CxbbzC There was some libaries missing but i search them with "apt-file search" and installed them. The same game is running on the same machine on ubuntu. I hope anybody can help me out, please.
[20:29] <xubuntun00b> Hi, I just downloaded Xubuntu 12.04 LTS and my audio is not working. Can someone help me pls :)
[20:29] <knome> !patience | xubuntun00b
[20:30] <num7> xubuntun00b, i'm just quite nooby 2 but maybe i can help you a little. Is the sound not working at all?
[20:32] <xubuntun00b> yeah, none at all. On older versions of Ubuntu it was fine, but since there was not a good LTS I went to Xubuntu which I like a lot aside from this audio issue
[20:32] <num7> xubuntun00b, stupid question :P Have you checked "Sound Settings" (Volume Control), accessed by clicking the speaker icon in the panel?
[20:33] <xubuntun00b> is this the same as "PulseAudio Control" if so then yes
[20:33] <xubuntun00b> it reads my hardware and everything. There is just no sound. The function keys even turn the volume up and down as if there is sound but none even when I boost the decibels
[20:36] <num7> xubuntun00b, maybe that will help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25430/audio-not-working
[20:37] <xubuntun00b> For the "ALSA-Plug-in[plugin-containter]: ALSA Playback on" under input devices I have Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller Digital Stereo HDMI Selected but if I change it to "built in analog stereo" the sound works, but function keys don't work
[20:37] <xubuntun00b> ill check the link, thanks for your help
[20:38] <Sysi> xubuntun00b: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.fi/2012/05/fix-adjust-sound-with-multimedia-keys.html
[20:38] <num7> np i have to go now, sorry. good luck with your sound
[20:39] <xubuntun00b> Thank you Sysi ill try that
[20:45] <xubuntun00b> Hi Sysi, I don't understand this step "Annotate the device's name, leaving out spaces and all characters from this list: ()[]-/"
[20:57] <xubuntun00b> that fixed my sound sysi thank  you, but now my function keys dont do anything :)
[20:58] <xubuntun00b> for audio that is
[21:24] <MonXuboo> Hi, my audio multimedia keys are not working
[21:40] <MonXuboo> Can anyone help me with my multimedia key problem? they work but there is no volume.
[21:41] <MonXuboo> or my function keys i mean
[22:39] <FoxyRK9> I need help
[22:39] <FoxyRK9> my wifi won't turn on
[22:39] <hsnmonster> what is up ?
[22:39] <hsnmonster> sorry , you can't count me in
[22:39] <FoxyRK9> there is a button on my laptop for Wifi, earlier when  installed Xubuntu
[22:40] <FoxyRK9> it was fine, but after the 250 updates and a restart its not turning on


[02:24] <tsimonq2> Bluefoxicy: What source package are we talking about?
[09:58] <doko> bdmurray: could you have a look at the valgrind autopkg test failure triggered by apport? (note that that might change again with today's binutils upload=
[09:58] <doko> )
[16:10] <bdmurray> doko: I'd have phrased that as the apport autopkgtest failure triggered by valgrind if you are talking about http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/apport/cosmic/amd64
[16:11] <doko> yep
[16:19] <GunnarHj> bdmurray: Can you please do me a favor and drop the freshplayerplugin uploads in the bionic and xenial queues. (I'm just preparing new variants which I will propose instead.)
[16:21] <bdmurray> GunnarHj: Sure!
[16:24] <GunnarHj> Thanks bdmurray!
[16:40] <bdmurray> doko: I retried it and it passed for amd64
[16:59] <doko> bdmurray: did you retry for other archs as well? for other packages as well?
[17:01] <bdmurray> doko: retrying for i386 too, is there anything else?
[17:03] <doko> bdmurray: at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html I see triggers for valgrind, python-apt, mate-terminal, .... sorry if I'm missing some
[17:05] <bdmurray> doko: Okay I see what you are looking at now and I'll likely just be clicking retry
[19:11] <sil2100> !dmb-ping
[21:20] <doko> cpaelzer: qemu needs a MIR for capstone


[07:01] <oSoMoN> good morning
[07:14] <andyrock> good morning
[11:49] <andyrock> JohnLea_, i cannot understand what is the "drag behind the Launcher"
[11:51] <JohnLea_> andyrock; it is a interaction that a user can use if they are dragging something that they need to drop *behind* the launcher
[11:51] <JohnLea_> andyrock; minimise all windows, and open nautilus on the right side of the screen
[11:51] <andyrock> JohnLea_, ah ok... i read the descrition
[11:51] <andyrock> but it work well on both cases
[11:51] <JohnLea_> andyrock; drag any file to the far left of the screen and hold it there and the Launcher will go away
[11:52] <andyrock> so it force the launcher to be hidden
[11:53] <andyrock> put the mouse pointer on the left side of the screen for a while
[11:53] <andyrock> *putting
[11:53] <JohnLea_> andyrock; try again, but this time open another window into the 'restored' state (e.g. not maximised or semi-maximised) and move it to the left side of the screen (but not all the way) so the Launcher auto-hides
[11:54] <andyrock> JohnLea_, are you using unity in trunk?
[11:54] <JohnLea_> andyrock; it only hides the Launcher when you are dragging and item, it doesn't do anything if nothing is being dragged
[11:55] <andyrock> ah ok...
[11:55] <JohnLea_> andyrock; just trying to update Oneiric atm and it looks like it has crashed, I'll retest after the update is complete and ping you
[11:56] <andyrock> so the interaction should be triggerd also when nothing is being dragged
[11:56] <andyrock> and after all the spread should not be triggered
[11:56] <andyrock> ok
[11:57] <JohnLea_> andyrock; no, the interaction should not be triggered when nothing is being dragged.
[11:57] <andyrock> so the only thing that should be fixed is the spread
[11:57] <andyrock> becuase it is triggered
[11:57] <JohnLea_> andyrock; the issue is that it doesn't work when the launcher is auto-hidden as a result of a 'restored' window being positioned on the left of the screen
[11:57] <JohnLea_> andyrock; yes, that as well
[11:59] <andyrock> JohnLea_, maybe my dnd branch fixed the firts part of this bug
[11:59] <JohnLea_> andyrock; so yes, the two issues are:  1. should work when Launcher is hidden as a result of a restored window causing the Launcher to auto-hide.  2) erroneously triggering the spread
[11:59] <JohnLea_> andyrock; cool, fingers crossed ;-)
[12:00] <andyrock> JohnLea_, let me make a little video...
[12:00] <andyrock> screencast i mean
[12:03] <JohnLea_> andyrock; thx!
[12:15] <andyrock> JohnLea_, http://ubuntuone.com/p/1CHB/
[12:15] <andyrock> the screencast quality is awful i know :)
[13:50] <mardy> Kaleo: merge request fixing 4 bugs, yay! :-) https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/unity-2d/menu-handling/+merge/72574
[13:52] <jjardon> kenvandine: hello! If you have some free time: https://launchpad.net/indicator-power/trunk/0.7
[13:54] <kenvandine> jjardon, sure
[13:56] <jjardon> kenvandine: thanks!
[14:12] <Kaleo> mardy: rock!
[14:24] <Blub_> Hello, will it be possible in Ubuntu 11.10 to remove "Apps available for download" from the Dash?
[14:44] <andyrock> DBO, it's safe to memdup an xevent?
[14:45] <DBO> no idea
[14:45] <andyrock> thx anyway :)
[15:50] <jml> How can I switch windows on the one desktop just using the keyboard?
[16:42] <jjardon> kenvandine: just committed a patch to fix a typo. It would be great if you can cherry pick it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jjardon/indicator-power/master/revision/101
[16:42] <kenvandine> jjardon, will do
[16:43] <kenvandine> i am just working on the package now
[16:43] <jjardon> kenvandine: thank you, sorry for the inconvenience
[16:43] <kenvandine> no worries
[16:53] <kenvandine> jjardon, you need to add org.ubuntu.indicator-power.gschema.xml.in to the dist
[16:53] <kenvandine> jjardon, i worked around it in the packaging branch for now
[18:41] <jjardon> kenvandine: Fix pushed
[18:42] <kenvandine> jjardon, another fix?
[18:43] <kenvandine> oh
[18:43] <kenvandine> nm
[18:43] <kenvandine> the dist fix :)
[18:43] <jjardon> kenvandine: yep :)
[18:43] <kenvandine> thx!
[22:01] <jjohansen> unity is completely broken after upgrading a few minutes ago
[22:06] <nhaines> jjohansen: thanks.  I'll make sure not to upgrade tonight!


[04:52] <Andre_Gondim> may I can find planet css in any place?
[08:28] <YoBoY> good morning
[15:23] <michael_k> hello! any insight as to when Natty CDs will be shipped to LoCos?


[08:33] <immu> hi
[09:23] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:24] <immu> lordievader, Goodafternoon here :)
[09:25] <lordievader> Hey immu, how are you?
[09:25] <immu> i am good, how about you?
[09:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:01] <immu> i am cool
[10:01] <immu> howdy do
[10:01] <immu> BluesKaj,  i got a Q for you about kdewallet
[10:03] <BluesKaj> hi immu, I disable kwallet, I can't be bothered with it
[10:11] <immu> oke, because when i log in i get asked for password to enable KDEwallet
[10:19] <BluesKaj> that's where I open kwallet and disable it
[10:19] <immu> i think i have disabled it,its a good place to keep your passwords but asking me everytime to enter my password is a annoying
[10:25] <BluesKaj> yup
[10:26] <lordievader> immu: If you set the same password for the Kwallet as the login password it should not ask you for it.
[10:26] <immu> also i need to enter pasword right upon boot so that my wifi comes up
[10:27] <lordievader> That password is also stored in the wallet, so if it is closed, you need to enter a password ;)
[10:29] <BluesKaj> immu, cahge the setting in network manager wifi to all users and you will no lom=nger be asked for pw each time you boot or lofin
[10:29] <BluesKaj> rr change
[10:29] <immu> KDE wallet asks for password so that wifi psw comesup
[10:29] <BluesKaj> login ...scuse the typos
[10:30] <immu> my brain did autocorrect
[10:30] <immu> also is any using PGP key for wallet?
[10:32] <immu> GPG
[10:32] <lordievader> Didn't KDE store the password plain text on your system if the all users flag was checked?
[10:51] <immu> https://nwrickert2.wordpress.com/2016/08/19/taming-kdewallet/
[16:46] <EriC^^> afternoon everyone
[17:23] <oerheks> hey EriC^^ how is the weather?
[17:26] <ducasse> \o oerheks (and drabber)
[17:26] <ducasse> sunny here, not a cloud
[17:30] <EriC^^> hey oerheks , very hot!
[17:30] <EriC^^> what about you?
[17:39] <oerheks> easy weather, sun breaking through at the end of day
[17:39] <oerheks> maybe the quiet before the storm :-D
[17:42] <EriC^^> :D
[17:45] <oerheks> ♪ why does facebook take forever... ♪
[17:45] <oerheks> come on guys, help this facebook victim in #u
[17:49] <ducasse> sorry, not touching that one :)
[17:52] <oerheks> i have one solution, when nothing helps ..
[17:52] <oerheks> http://geekussion.com/windows/block-facebook-hosts-file-windows-pc-99/#blocking-facebook-with-hosts-file


[11:34] <ockham_> AlanBell, om26er: hi guys, just curious if you found the time to try out my tentative fix for bug 785101
[22:00] <mgedmin> Is there a lens for network shares?  I'm tired of typing Alt+F2 nautilus smb://servername/sharename by hand
[22:20] <compa> Hy guys!
[22:20] <compa> I'm new in ubuntu development, I solved a bug last week in xoscope, I would collaborate with ubuntu development
[22:21] <compa> so I scavenged the bitesize bug list and found bug 773841
[22:21] <compa> I think I can solve this
[22:22] <compa> may anyone help me?
[22:34] <ockham_> compa: i can try to help you, but i can't promise much
[22:35] <compa> yes! thank you!
[22:36] <compa> this is what didrocks said "if anyone wants to work on it, it can be quite straightfoward. If anyone wants to work on that, do not hesitate to ping me on irc on #ayatana on freenode :)"
[22:37] <thumper> compa: best to try to get didrocks then :)
[22:37] <thumper> compa: didrocks works central european time
[22:38] <thumper> mgedmin: not that I know of
[22:38] <compa> I'm also onCET
[22:39]  * MrChrisDruif as well
[22:39] <compa> Do you know where is located the bug, can you point me to the package or file?
[22:39] <compa> or I have to dig by myself?
[22:40] <ockham_> compa: well according to the subject, it's in unity-lens-files (which used to be called unity-place-files)
[22:41] <ockham_> so you need to clone its bzr branch. acquaint yourself with http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/
[22:41] <ockham_> have you already got a launchpad account?
[22:41] <compa> yes, I used bazar previously
[22:42] <ockham_> good. then go to a directory of your choice and do bzr init-repo ./unity-lens-files
[22:42] <mgedmin> actually a fix for 773841 would simplify my problem as well :)
[22:42] <ockham_> mgedmin: yup, i figured
[22:44] <ockham_> compa: then do: bzr branch lp:unity-lens-files ./unity-lens-files/lp773841
[22:44] <ockham_> we're naming your subdirectory after the lp (launchpad) bug you're going to fix
[22:45] <ockham_> now go to https://code.launchpad.net/unity-lens-files
[22:45] <ockham_> and "Register a branch"
[22:46] <ockham_> name it lp773841 and set it to "Development"
[22:46] <compa> I think I have no permission to register a branch
[22:47] <compa> ockham_: I think the after fixing the bug, I'll do a propose for merging
[22:47] <thumper> no...
[22:47] <thumper> don't register a branch
[22:47] <ockham_> thumper: why not?
[22:47] <thumper> just pushing your branch to the project does the registration
[22:47] <thumper> registering a branch was originally just for mirrors of other public locations
[22:47] <thumper> it has been the bane of LP branches ever since
[22:48] <ockham_> thumper: okay, my bad
[22:48] <thumper> that's fine
[22:48] <thumper> LP branches used to be my job
[22:48] <thumper> so really, it is my bad
[22:48] <thumper> :-|
[22:49] <ockham_> compa: alright, so it seems you should be already set. fix your bug, do a bzr commit -m "with a comment that makes sense"
[22:49] <ockham_> and then push it to the project, like thumper says
[22:49] <compa> ockham_: yes, my comments are serious!
[22:49]  * mgedmin never registered a branch -- just bzr branch lp:whatever; bzr commit --fixes 1234; bzr push lp:~mgedmin/project/lp1234, and the branch is automatically connected to the bug
[22:50] <compa> yes, It is what I made for xoscope
[22:50] <ockham_> compa: alright, so you might have done it more properly on this than i would have...
[22:52] <compa> ok, thank you for helping whit brz and branches, but I was here for understanding where the problem is located?! Can you help me?
[22:54] <ockham_> compa: sorry, but i'm not acquainted with the files lens. i'm afraid that searching for the issue's origin is somewhat part of the fixing process...
[22:56] <ockham_> there aren't too many vala source files in the src directory, though, so might want to try to check them for the issue
[22:56] <ockham_> that said, i'm afraid i have to leave soon
[22:56] <ockham_> ...and i'd still be greatful if someone could test my (inappropriately registered) branches for unity-lens-applications and unity that attempt to solve bug 785101...
[22:56] <compa> ockham_: not your fault! I hoped for didrocks!
[22:56] <compa> I found, there are some reg exp in url-checker.vala
[22:58] <compa> ockham_: horary for ockham_!!! The "apps available" was my most hated feature in unity!
[23:49] <pindonga> hi, I'm having some serious performance issues with unity... maybe someone can aid me?
[23:49] <pindonga> I'm using the binary nvidia drivers, and I'm getting around 200-300 fps with unity
[23:49] <pindonga> using the same drivers, I'm getting 2200-2300 fps with gnome3
[23:49] <pindonga> any reason for this drastic performance decrease with unity?