[07:18] <engla> bigmoe: you install that application with synaptic or apt-get. The howto is at ubuntuforums.org (search for it)
[07:18] <oonoon> hi, i run a sh script with sudo, and during the install, it says 'you're local user not superuser so you can do nothing. Bye' ; what can i do?
[07:19] <heitor> soundray: I have hp 4300dtn and I using hp drivers and all printer instalation  I done using cups
[07:20] <blekos> run as su
[07:20] <soundray> oonoon, try 'sudo -i' and then call your script
[07:20] <Gimpd> can anyone tell me how to edit my apache2 conf file?
[07:21] <oonoon> soundray, sudo -i sh script_name ?
[07:21] <reiki_work> guys I am at work and not on my Ubuntu machine at home. Can someone tell me if VMWare 5 is available as a package?
[07:21] <irvined> For reference all: I had to uncheck Line Jack sense from the volume control switch
[07:21] <mikel> hola
[07:21] <soundray> oonoon, no, 'sudo -i' <enter>, then call the script as root.
[07:22] <mikel> miL
[07:22] <mikel> soy miL
[07:22] <mikel> desde ubuntu
[07:22] <mikel> xD
[07:22] <oonoon> soundray, ok thanks
[07:22] <wrtpeeps> what is the package for nvidia drivers called
[07:22] <naetrick> Has anyone here built a custom kernel for Ubuntu
[07:22] <soundray> heitor, you could try HPLIP drivers instead of the regular HP ones.
[07:22] <wrtpeeps> please :)
[07:23] <oonoon> soundray, how do i exit the 'root login' on the console?
[07:23] <soundray> oonoon, exit
[07:23] <soundray> wrtpeeps, nvidia-glx
[07:23] <wrtpeeps> hmm
[07:23] <nny> hrmm.. ok before someone posts !ndiswrapper (i have it.. buggy sometimes, doesn't allow easy use of interface for my girl) i see that a 43XX broadcom module is loading at start-up
[07:23] <wrtpeeps> i installed that
[07:23] <heitor> Soundray: I'm not sure, but I think I'm using these drive
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> but i get the error that i dont support 16bit colour
[07:24] <i3dmaster> how to reconfigure network interface?
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> when i try to startx
[07:24] <nny> but i am trying to discern how this laptop activates the radio
[07:24] <oonoon> soundray, it doesnt work ; when i execute a bin, i still get 'permission denied'...
[07:24] <soundray> wrtpeeps, you also need to have the restricted modules package that fits your system. Run 'apt-cache search restricted modules'
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> ah
[07:24] <wrtpeeps> well, i am trying to install on vmware
[07:25] <affettuoso> oonOON USE SUDO
[07:25] <affettuoso> oops
[07:25] <soundray> oonoon, replace 'sudo -i' with 'sudo -sH' for a try.
[07:25] <affettuoso> sorry for caps
[07:25] <heitor> Soundray: But when I print something by openoffice for example, I don't have problem, just in textmode
[07:25] <oonoon> affettuoso, doesnt work, i said it above
[07:25] <soundray> affettuoso, shooting from the hip, aye?
[07:25] <blekos> run su
[07:25] <oonoon> soundray, "sudo: please use single character options
[07:26] <oonoon> "
[07:26] <blekos> then run the program
[07:26] <affettuoso> had to try :)
[07:26] <heitor> Soundray: Here in my job I have some users that need printing many things in textmode, especially latex code
[07:26] <soundray> heitor, if that setup works well with openoffice, don't touch it. Set up a new printer and try out different drivers for vi printing with that one.
[07:27] <i3dmaster> my network device uses to be eth0, but now it is eth0_clas... and can't bring it up. What's the problem?
[07:27] <affettuoso> sorry im not really here im looking for a desktop background changer thingy
[07:27] <nny> is there a dapper channel?
[07:27] <soundray> oonoon, sudo -s
[07:27] <lucasvo> affettuoso: just overwrite the image in a cronjob
[07:28] <affettuoso> lucasvo: you mean there isnt an easier way to change the background on flux?
[07:28] <lucasvo> affettuoso: I don't know
[07:28] <oonoon> soundray, tsss, neither
[07:29] <soundray> oonoon, you could enable root temporarily with 'sudo passwd', then 'su -'.
[07:29] <Seveas> OK EVERYONE (sorry for caps) if you are using Ubuntu right now: /msg ompaul *hug* I use Ubuntu
[07:29] <Seveas> He needs it :)
[07:29] <oonoon> soundray, i ll try this one
[07:30] <soundray> oonoon, recommend disabling root afterwards with 'sudo passwd -l'
[07:30] <ompaul> Seveas, no one did :-(
[07:30] <Seveas> ompaul, dang
[07:30] <wrtpeeps> soundray: i installed restricted modules, but i still get that i cannot support 16bit depth
[07:30] <affettuoso> lol
[07:30] <oonoon> soundray, ok ok thanks
[07:30] <Seveas> help the poor ompaul please
[07:30] <ompaul> its u and me kiddo against the world
[07:30] <wrtpeeps> i noticed that when i installed nvidia drivers, it aint listed in xorg.conf. should it be?
[07:30] <ompaul> 1 other one thanks there
[07:30] <heitor> soundray: Ok, I'll do the test and after I'll looking for you here, thanks
[07:31] <Seveas> teehee :)
[07:31] <soundray> wrtpeeps, use ubotu's instructions
[07:31] <soundray> !nvidia
[07:31] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:32] <kyo> how do I reset the default colors in x-irc?
[07:32] <bur[n] er_> x-chat?
[07:32] <affettuoso> what is x-irc?
[07:32] <wrtpeeps> !nvidia
[07:32] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:33] <kyo> I have the text so set so messed up I can't even see your replies
[07:33] <affettuoso> oh good i thought it was just me :)
[07:33] <kyo> brb
[07:33] <AndyR> does anyone know if the ati / new login problem is ati or gnomes problem?
[07:33] <dr-slizer> Too bad there's many IRC clients with X in their name :P
[07:33] <Roan> Kyo here. How do I reset the colors in x-chat?
[07:34] <petef> settings, preferences
[07:34] <affettuoso> in x-chat go into the settings and change it back :)
[07:34] <mark__> !tell mark__ about NTFS
[07:34] <meepy> I need some help, i cant seem to change the keyboard layout to danish, i tried EVERYTHING. Please help! I want me system in english, but keyboard in danish
[07:34] <affettuoso> ok there has to be a way to change background in fluxbox :(
[07:35] <calamari> hi
[07:35] <affettuoso> mark__: try /msg ubotu ntfs :))
[07:35] <_jason> affettuoso:fbsetbg -f file_of_background
[07:35] <calamari> whenever I insert a blank cd or dvd, a window pops up asking what I want to do.. can I disable this from coming up?
[07:35] <AndyR> meepy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <i3dmaster> does anyone know how to fix the network interface?
[07:36] <kyo> heh
[07:36] <affettuoso> _jason: thanks ill try it now
[07:36] <Adelmo> Hi
[07:36] <kyo> much better
[07:37] <kyo> heh
[07:38] <petef> hi jordan hows it goin dude
[07:38] <affettuoso> _jason: worked like a charm thank you so much :)
[07:38] <_jason> affettuoso: you'll need to put a command in your init file to keep it there when you login again
[07:38] <affettuoso> :(
[07:39] <_jason> affettuoso: I use: session.screen0.rootCommand:    fbsetbg -l, which will set it to whatever was used last
[07:39] <oonoon> how do i log on root when i enabled it ? i cant do it graphically
[07:39] <jordan> petef, pretty good
[07:39] <jordan> petef, just got outta class and ate a corndog
[07:40] <petef> cool man :)
[07:40] <affettuoso> _jason: whats the patha nd can i put it anywhere in the file?
[07:40] <_jason> oonoon: do you understand why root is disabled in the first place?  logging in as root graphically is a bad idea
[07:40] <soundray> oonoon, 'su -'
[07:40] <jordan> anyone know of a way to play divx files with ubuntu?
[07:40] <_jason> affettuoso: ~/.fluxbox/init, and yes I think anywhere is ok
[07:40] <soundray> jordan, mplayer
[07:40] <calamari> jordan: I use mplayer
[07:40] <petef> can's you play divx with mplayer
[07:41] <jordan> soundray, ok, I'll try it but I've never been a fan
[07:41] <petef> oh to late
[07:41] <affettuoso> ty _jason  brb
[07:41] <oonoon> soundray, damn, it still sees me as local user
[07:41] <calamari> jordan: do a custom build.. best speed and features
[07:41] <kyo> whats the best mp3 player for ubuntu?
[07:41] <jordan> calamari, how would I go about doing this
[07:41] <jordan> kyo, I like amaroK
[07:42] <soundray> oonoon, what is this script?
[07:42] <petef> i like xmms
[07:42] <oonoon> soundray, matlab install
[07:42] <jordan> xmms is awesome too
[07:42] <kyo> jordan, is that the default or do I have to install it
[07:42] <i3dmaster>  when I do ifconfig eth0_clas, it returns eth0_clas: error interface information: Device not found. The interface was named eth0. how to fix it?
[07:42] <soundray> oonoon, is this graphical?
[07:42] <jordan> kyo, you have to install it
[07:42] <calamari> jordan: download sources, ./configure --help   (choose what you want), ./configure (with those options), make, make install
[07:42] <kyo> !amarok
[07:42] <ubotu> well, amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:42] <_jason> oonoon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB
[07:43] <oonoon> soundray, no graphical
[07:43] <oonoon> _jason, nice
[07:43] <jordan> calamari, I've never had good luck installing from tarballs
[07:43] <eliyahu> help! my totem movie player is only showing a blue screen
[07:43] <mark__> what's the sudo apt-get command for building essential things to ubuntu
[07:43] <_jason> eliyahu: eek, have you rebooted?
[07:43] <_jason> or restarted X at least
[07:43] <petef> try removing it and re-installing
[07:43] <_jason> mark__: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:44] <eliyahu> thats so 'windows' but i'll try
[07:44] <_jason> eliyahu: hehe yeah, but that happneed to me once and it went away on reboot
[07:44] <kyo> !amarok
[07:44] <ubotu> I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:44] <jordan> anyone a fan of xfce?
[07:44] <soundray> oonoon, see if the wiki instructions work.
[07:44] <kyo> is amarok compact like winamp?
[07:44] <jordan> kyo, no its kinda like iTunes
[07:44] <_jason> kyo: no, but it is nice.  install it and try it
[07:45] <jordan> kyo, xmms is exactly like winamp
[07:45] <_jason> kyo: try beep-media-player, which is basically a better xmms :)
[07:45] <kyo> yeah I would want something like xmms then
[07:45] <Protocol1> !jdoom
[07:45] <kyo> !xmms
[07:45] <ubotu> I guess jdoom is a port of ID's Doom to Linux. The jDoom engine supports Doom, Doom II, Hexen and Heretic. Instructions for installation on Breezy can be found at http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi/community-projects/yagisan-s-doomsday-for-debian-ubuntu
[07:45] <ubotu> xmms is, like, totally, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:46] <petef> apt-get install xmms :)
[07:46] <L33TrDaNu> howdy, all the default fonts in ubuntu blow. Anyone know any good font packages/
[07:46] <anap> hi
[07:46] <L33TrDaNu> I would like fonts like Arial, Times New Romans, and the like
[07:46] <calamari> beep-media-player is better than xmms these days...
[07:46] <_jason> L33TrDaNu: msttcorefonts
[07:46] <anap> i have a problem that might be an openoffice only problem but i'll tell you anyway...
[07:46] <petef> never tried beep whats the advantages ?
[07:46] <calamari> whenever I insert a blank cd or dvd, a window pops up asking what I want to do.. can I disable this from coming up?
[07:46] <jordan> calamari, is it? last time Itried it wasnt that great
[07:46] <anap> the key that usually does the same as a right click,
[07:47] <L33TrDaNu> _jason, thank you so much!
[07:47] <anap> only offers me the same function as the alt key,
[07:47] <calamari> petef: more modern gtk
[07:47] <anap> not right click
[07:47] <kyo> calamari, , does bee media player take up much resource?
[07:47] <_jason> anap: please don't use the enter key as punctuation, it makes it hard to follow your question
[07:47] <calamari> kyo: nah
[07:47] <kyo> I'm justl ooking for a program to play music in the backgroun
[07:47] <kyo> nothing fanacy
[07:47] <anap> ok sorry
[07:48] <Creeture> kyo: mpg123 or mpg321 both fit that description. That's nothing fancy.
[07:48] <jordan> anyone an xfce fan?
[07:49] <petef> Id still go xmms
[07:49] <kyo> !xmms
[07:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:49] <petef> does just what you asked
[07:49] <anap> the key that usually does the same as a right click, only offers me the same function as the alt key,not right click; is there a "natural shortcut" for the same function as a right click in ubuntu?
[07:49] <kyo> Is xmms for x-windows or gnome?
[07:49] <L33TrDaNu> xmms blowz, go download amarok and use it with kde =)
[07:49] <kyo> haha
[07:49] <kyo> I'm running gnome right now ...
[07:49] <L33TrDaNu> xmms2 would be sweet if it'd hurry up and get developed
[07:49] <_jason> kyo: just try beep and xmms and mpg* and choose the one you like
[07:49] <jordan> kyo, if your worried about resources gnome usually takes a little less
[07:50] <anap> (not sure if that was any clearer though:) I am just after a way of getting the dialog that i get with a right click, but using the keyboard
[07:50] <petef> laters guys
[07:50] <kyo> aye
[07:50] <rindolf> Hi all!
[07:50] <affettuoso> brb gonna try this out
[07:50] <ownerx> anyone else experience .XAuthority corruption when running kde apps in gnome
[07:50] <kyo> !xmms
[07:50] <ubotu> xmms is, like, totally, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:50] <kyo> Hmm what is the xmms window? -_-'
[07:50] <L33TrDaNu> leonel: you're scaring people by doing that
[07:51] <_jason> ownerx: do you run them with sudo privileges?
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> kyo: it is black by default. Looks sort of like winamp classsic
[07:51] <jordan> kyo, its just like winamp for windows
[07:51] <leonel> jeje just a joke on  #gluch
[07:51] <mazatl> on gnome, what can I use to burn an .iso?
[07:51] <eliyahu> petef the uninstall / reinstall worked. thanks man
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> kyo, it doesn't have a media library though
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> kyo that is why it bothers me
[07:51] <rindolf> I upgraded kubuntu to 5.10. Now I can't use Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/F3 to go to the virtual consoles from within X. How can I enable it?
[07:51] <L33TrDaNu> mazatl: Gnomebaker
[07:51] <ownerx> jason, it doesnt happen in kde
[07:51] <ownerx> only kde apps run in gnome
[07:51] <jordan> mazatl, you can do it by right clicking the iso
[07:51] <_jason> anap: my laptop keyboard has a key that does that.  I don't know exactly what it gets mapped to.  But you could use xbindkeys to do what you want
[07:52] <_jason> ownerx: do you run them with root?  and do you know how to fix it?
[07:52] <ownerx> probably have run some as root
[07:52] <ownerx> yes i know how to fix
[07:52] <_jason> ownerx: that's why
[07:52] <ownerx> delete .xauthority
[07:53] <calamari> whenever I insert a blank cd or dvd, a window pops up asking what I want to do.. can I disable this from coming up?
[07:53] <jordan> what are some of your favorite apps?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> calamari,  yes. :P
[07:53] <soundray> jordan, tetex
[07:53] <calamari> Dr_Willis: yay
[07:53] <anap> _jason, my keyboard does hava a key like that, it does that with other programs, like xChat, gedit or firebird, but with openoffice, i press it and it only offers me to go to File, in menu
[07:53] <jordan> soundray, whats tetex?
[07:53] <calamari> Dr_Willis: how do I do it? :)
[07:53] <soundray> jordan, a TeX/LaTeX distribution
[07:54] <soundray> !info tetex-bin
[07:54] <ubotu> tetex-bin: (The teTeX binary files), section tex, is optional. Version: 2.0.2-30ubuntu3.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 3792 kB, Installed size: 8724 kB
[07:54] <jordan> soundray, huh, I'll check it out
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> calamari,  you dident ask that. :P  - its in the perferances/control panel somewhere - i forget..  media, or external media, or somthing like that.
[07:54] <_jason> anap: oh I see, let me try to make sure it is the same here.  Using xbindkeys you could set one up though
[07:54] <jordan> any good games you guys know that I dont?
[07:54] <anap> what is xbindkey? looking in the programs list and i can't find it...
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> calamari,  theres entries for what programs ya want to run for such tasks. or just uncheck them to make it do nothing
[07:54] <soundray> jordan, I'm planning to give an IRC tutorial on basic LaTeX use soon.
[07:55] <kyo> Ok, I'm a noob here ... how do I access xmms?
[07:55] <calamari> jordan: I like KStars.. fun planetarium program
[07:55] <_jason> anap: you have to install it
[07:55] <ownerx> calamari yes nice app
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> kyo,  run xmms from the shell - is one way. if its installed
[07:55] <jordan> calamari, yeah, its pretty good, it came with suse when I used that for a month
[07:55] <anap> _jason: ah. with apt get?
[07:55] <_jason> anap: yeah
[07:55] <anap> need to be root?
[07:55] <_jason> anap: then you might need xmacro as well
[07:55] <jordan> soundray, when?
[07:55] <soundray> jordan, if you're interested in LaTeX pm me your email address and I'll tell you when the tutorial is on.
[07:55] <kyo> Dr_Willis, doesn't look like it ... i typed it in and its not installed
[07:56] <_jason> anap: to install, you need to use sudo
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> kyo,  then install it. :P
[07:56] <jordan> soundray, how do I pm?
[07:56] <_jason> gnomefreak: ? what did i do
[07:56] <soundray>  /msg soundray email@address
[07:56] <anap> ok... will try to start installing in next online session, i have to go now. thank you so much, _jason
[07:57] <_jason> anap: you will probably need to do some reading to figure it out
[07:57] <gnomefreak> someone was trying to pm me on that name
[07:57] <anap> thanks _jason
[07:57] <soundray> jordan, you have to be registered for pm, though.
[07:57] <anap> bye now!
[07:57] <kyo> Dr_Willis, sure thing boss!
[07:57] <kyo> !xmms
[07:57] <ubotu> from memory, xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:57] <jordan> soundray, how do I register, heh
[07:57] <kyo> !amorak
[07:57] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kyo
[07:57] <ownerx> ive noticed the kde 3.51 in ubuntu works so much faster than the old ubuntu kde
[07:58] <kyo> !amarok
[07:58] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[07:58] <kyo> amarok is for KDE -- can I still use it in gnome?
[07:58] <soundray> jordan, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[07:58] <calamari> kyo: yeah
[07:58] <gnomefreak> kyo: yes
[07:59] <jordan> soundray, kay, will do that now
[08:00] <jordan> has anyone ever used xfce?
[08:00] <mazatl> yes why
[08:01] <jordan> have you ever got xfmedia to work?
[08:01] <mazatl> never used it
[08:01] <jordan> oh, ok
[08:04] <mark__> how do I access the fglrx-control panel
[08:04] <mark__> what is the command to use in shell
[08:04] <jordan> how do I change my nick name on this?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> jordan: /nick newname
[08:04] <jordan> gnomefreak, thanks
[08:04] <kane__> how do I change MAC adress???
[08:04] <gnomefreak> jordo23: yw
[08:05] <mark__> hey? :\
[08:05] <mark__> what is the command to use in shell?
[08:05] <mark__> fglrx-control panel
[08:05] <kane__> how do I change MAC adress??? anybody can help???
[08:06] <soundray> mark__, fireglcontrol. And, remember, nobody *owes* you support.
[08:06] <damnhil> What's the best web camera to buy for v4l?
[08:06] <ownerx> /usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel
[08:06] <mark__> lol, thanks soundray
[08:06] <GiGaHuRtZ> Hello, anyone tried Xgl yet with Dapper?  I'm having some trouble...
[08:06] <JloR> Anyone in here have experience with Matrox video cards on ubuntu linux? Is it easy to setup and use?
[08:07] <soundray> damnhil, a TV card and an analog camera :)
[08:07] <sid> Hello
[08:07] <sid> Can someone help me out, for some reason I have no sound
[08:07] <damnhil> soundray: what's analog camera?
[08:07] <damnhil> sid: alsaconfig
[08:07] <calamari> jordan: perhaps try #xfce
[08:07] <sid> Command not found
[08:07] <soundray> damnhil, one that has analog output, I mean. RGB or S-Video.
[08:07] <jodanlime> calamari, thanks, I will
[08:08] <damnhil> sid: what's your lspci output for sound?
[08:08] <soundray> damnhil, any old Sony Handycam or similar will do. Much better image quality than current cheap USB cams.
[08:08] <sid> Sorry, im a newb, whats lspci?
[08:08] <barleyman> Hi tried to google this but no luck....   I am running Breezy on a brand new Dell P4 with 1gig of memory.  I do not use evolution at all (Tbird) but I still see evolution-alarm-notify, evolution-data-server-1.4 and ...-exchange-storage using 55.8, 48.0, and 25.2 MiB of memory respectively.  Is this normal?
[08:08] <damnhil> soundray: are you saying usb cam or digital cam?
[08:08] <damnhil> sid: in the command line, type lspci and enter
[08:08] !lilo:*! PDPC research assistance requested: is there an online database of for-profit and not-for-profit entities in India? *Not* a domain registration index.  Please message me if you can help. Thanks!
[08:09] <sid> Done
[08:09] <soundray> sid, best way to find out more about a command is using man: man lspci
[08:09] <caro> hi
[08:09] <damnhil> sid: what's the output?
[08:09] <sid> It doesnt say anything about sound
[08:09] <caro> my imac is extremely slow on breezy, how to solve this problem ?
[08:10] <blekos> any idea if there is a beta version of dapper drake?
[08:10] <sid> Want me to post what it said? All the lines?
[08:10] !lilo:*! (for the freenode group registration project)
[08:10] <KoruptidPryde> I'm looking at buing a new minipci wifi card for my laptop to replace my broadcom.... any suggestions?  I'd like to be fully linux compatible
[08:10] <soundray> damnhil, I'm saying a video camera with analog PAL or NTSC connectors will give you better quality than the current breed of USB webcams.
[08:10] <damnhil> sid: you should have something like "00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)"
[08:10] <nny> heres a good one, where does ubuntu keep kernel sources (if any)
[08:11] <sid> Nope
[08:11] <gnomefreak> blekos: beta for dapper will me next month its still in alpha form
[08:11] <damnhil> soundray: I have a Kodak digicam which supports NTSC but I don't know how to use it
[08:11] <soundray> blekos, I don't think there will be an official beta. There are so-called Flight CD's for testing.
[08:11] <nny> i am trying to compile a package.. i think it wants the header files
[08:11] <damnhil> sid : that means there is no sound card on your PCI
[08:11] <sid> Its integrated intel sound, but I dont seem to see it. My SB Audigy card wouldn't come up either
[08:11] <kyo> which uses less resource? KDE or Gnome?
[08:11] <blekos> i know but it is advisable not to install f3 :(
[08:11] <barleyman> bump
[08:11] <blekos> but I cant wait...
[08:11] <_jason> kyo: gnome probably
[08:11] <soundray> damnhil, to connect NTSC output to your PC, you'd have to have a TV card, e.g. one with a Brooktree chipset
[08:11] <jodanlime> kyo, gnome by just a little bit
[08:11] <blekos> there a lot of new inovations in the new edition
[08:12] <blekos> :)
[08:12] <jodanlime> anyone know if I can boot a computer from a server?
[08:12] <damnhil> soundray: Can I use a real TV to test it? What would I see?
[08:12] <nny> ... mayeb since ubuntu uses packages for kernel, the source is not in my filesystem
[08:12] <soundray> damnhil, a) yes. b) depends on the camera
[08:12] <blekos> if the computer is connected  2 the server and hava a remote access yes
[08:13] <sid> It should show my integrated card, windows saw it, the live cd saw it, I dont see why its not there now.
[08:13] <jodanlime> blekos, is that hard to do?
[08:13] <nny> i think i answered my own question, anyone wanna confirm it?
[08:13] <damnhil> sid got no sound cardt
[08:13] <soundray> jodanlime, do you mean boot from switched-off state?
[08:13] <blekos> not really, i only have done it through win server
[08:13] <jodanlime> soundray, no, I want to make a completely silent pc, and boot it from ethernet
[08:13] <soundray> nny, kernel source is in separate packages.
[08:14] <blekos> i think it is somewhere in the administrative tools
[08:14] <sid> Its integrated, I know its there. I tried my SB card too and ti doesnt come up
[08:14] <sid> I know its there
[08:14] <soundray> jodanlime, the keyword is wake on lan
[08:14] <twb> Debian asks for a domain name (which defaults to .lan), but Ubuntu doesn't.  Where do I set that by hand?
[08:14] <damnhil> sid: what's the model of your sound card? USB?
[08:14] <nny> soundray, hrmm.. thought so.. heh silly me.. ok wait till ihave ethernet connection (working on broadcom stuff)
[08:14] <soundray> !info wakeonlan
[08:14] <sid> No PCI
[08:14] <ubotu> wakeonlan: (Sends 'magic packets' to wake-on-LAN enabled ethernet adapters), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.41-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[08:14] <janno> !rpm
[08:14] <ubotu> rpm is, like, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[08:14] <damnhil> sid: what's the model name
[08:14] <jodanlime> soundray, could I just turn on the pc, and have the os on a hard drive in the server in my downstairs/closet etc?
[08:14] <sid> I had a PCI SB card, its not plugged in right now because it wouldnt work
[08:14] <sid> SB Audigy 2
[08:15] <nny> !ndiswrapper
[08:15] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:15] <nny> hrmm
[08:15] <nny> wonder what ubotu means by buggy
[08:15] <nny> i have 2.6.15
[08:15] <nny> with modules
[08:15] <nny> anyone know of a better way?
[08:15] <nny> !broadcom
[08:15] <ubotu> broadcom is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[08:15] <soundray> jodanlime, yes, that kind of config is called a thin-client/terminal server setup. Search the web for LTSP.
[08:16] <kane__> how do I change MAC adress??? anybody can help???
[08:16] <kyo> hmm weird. Permission is denied when I apt-get update
[08:16] <jodanlime> soundray, ok, but does it use the computers prossecing power or the servers?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> nny: buggy meaning you may find bugs with it
[08:16] <_jason> kyo: sudo apt-get update
[08:16] <twb> jodanlime: apt-cache search mac change
[08:16] <nny> gnomefreak, heeh.. yeah isn't there module (nondsiwrapper) support in ubuntu dapper 2.6.15(what i am using)
[08:17] <twb> jodanlime: apt-cache show macchanger
[08:17] <sid> In my device manager, it says "On Board Device", and when I go to advanced, it says its Crystal 4236B Audio
[08:17] <soundray> jodanlime, with LTSP, you're using the  local machine for graphics only. Everything else happens on the server.
[08:17] <sid> Status is enabled
[08:17] <sid> Type, is sound
[08:17] <soundray> jodanlime, if you want it differently, look into root on NFS or similar.
[08:17] <jodanlime> soundray, well, I was thinking like having my hard-drives in a seperate room for a silent pc
[08:17] <damnhil> sid: it should appear in your lspci command output
[08:17] <sid> I dont see why it doesnt though
[08:17] <damnhil> sid: are you using ALSA?
[08:17] <sid> I dont know
[08:17] <Takagami> How do I install a .deb from command line?
[08:17] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know if there's /any/ mysql 5.0.x packages for k/ubuntu?
[08:18] <nny> !dapper broadcom
[08:18] <ubotu> nny: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:18] <twb> Takagami: Ubuntu is not Debian.
[08:18] <Psi-Jack> Takagami: dpkg --help
[08:18] <gnomefreak> sid: did you diable onboard sound card?
[08:18] <sid> No
[08:18] <Takagami> dpkg
[08:18] <Takagami> yea
[08:18] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell Takagami about deb
[08:18] <janno> !deb
[08:18] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:18] <sid> In the device manager, it says its there
[08:18] <sid> lspci says otherwise
[08:18] <Psi-Jack> twb: Correct, it's not, but Ubuntu uses Debian's package management, hence, .deb
[08:18] <gnomefreak> sid: you might want to do that in bios if you have another sound card you are trying to get to work
[08:18] <Takagami> yeah I was trying deb instead of dpkg
[08:18] <nny> ubotu, tell nny how to make a perpetual motion device
[08:18] <jodanlime> isnt ubuntu built on debian?
[08:18] <soundray> jodanlime, both thin-client and root-on-nfs setups can be silent. Another keyword to search for is diskless.
[08:19] <nny> hehe don't abuse the bot :)
[08:19] <sid> My bios says its there, my device manager says its there
[08:19] <gnomefreak> jodanlime: yes but it is not debian
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> jodanlime: Built using Debian's tools.
[08:19] <thegladiator> ubotu deb are  not exactly compatible with debian deb , or so I read somewhere
[08:19] <ubotu> ...but deb is already something else...
[08:19] <Takagami> I meant the .deb package system... not debian really
[08:19] <twb> jodanlime: "built on" is perhaps stretching the definition.
[08:19] <sid> its enabled in my bios and in the device manager
[08:19] <jodanlime> gnomefreak, yeah, but its alot like it
[08:19] <damnhil> sid: can you run the alsa auto detection program?
[08:19] <bigmoe> anyone know how to make anonymous proxy
[08:19] <nny> if anyone knows of a ubuntu forum related specifically to broadcom adapters with the latest kernel, hook a brother up
[08:19] <sid> Which is
[08:19] <gnomefreak> jordo23: not really
[08:19] <thegladiator> Takagami, got the tell from ubotu ?
[08:19] <sid> alsaconfig?
[08:19] <gnomefreak> same package manager same installer
[08:19] <Takagami> thegladiator: Yeah... thanks
[08:20] <jodanlime> soundray, thanks alot, youve helped alot
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[08:20] <twb> Where is the domain name configured in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <jodanlime> see you guys later
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Is there any mysql5 packages for Ubuntu anywhere?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> twb: under networking
[08:20] <damnhil> sid: I forgot the command. can you find it>?
[08:20] <twb> gnomefreak: Uh, could you be more specific?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> twb: system>admin>network
[08:20] <twb> gnomefreak: is this some GUI thing?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> gui thing yes its on gnomedesktop
[08:21] <sid> I cant find it, one second
[08:21] <soundray> Psi-Jack, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ (for dapper, I think)
[08:21] <twb> gnomefreak: do you know where it is in /etc?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> twb: not off hand
[08:21] <Psi-Jack> soundray: Hmm, I need it for breezy.
[08:21] <sid> I cant find it
[08:22] <i3dmaster> my ethernet card was named eth0 but now it is changed to eth0_clashed. Anyone has this issue before?
[08:22] <_jason> i3dmaster: you are using dapper?
[08:22] <twb> My actual problem is that the Debian NFS server won't allow me to mount exported directories.
[08:22] <twb> And I suspect it's because my domain name isn't foo.lan
[08:22] <i3dmaster> _jason, yes
[08:23] <soundray> Psi-Jack, breezy is stable, mysql5 can't be considered that, so the two don't go together.
[08:23] <_jason> i3dmaster: then yes, I have seen a few people have that issue here
[08:23] <Psi-Jack> soundray: MySQL 5.0 is quite stable, actually.
[08:23] <soundray> Psi-Jack, you can try to backport, but I would install dapper if I needed mysql5.
[08:23] <i3dmaster> _jason, oh ok.. hmm.. what's up with that? don't see any benefits to rename the interface
[08:23] <damnhil> sid: come on
[08:23] <sid> I couldnt find it
[08:23] <_jason> i3dmaster: no idea
[08:24] <Psi-Jack> soundray: I'll go with the whole backporting idea, using the deb-src and just adjusting.
[08:24] <KoruptidPryde> does orinoco make a mini-pci card?
[08:24] <twb> The /etc/exports file reads "/alt    *.lan(rw,sync,root_squash)"
[08:24] <i3dmaster> _jason, ya the interface is still working but you know, its a ugly change
[08:24] <damnhil> sid: do you have ALSA?
[08:24] <bigmoe> what is the package name for mysql in ubuntu
[08:24] <sid> yes
[08:24] <i3dmaster> anyway, thanks
[08:24] <_jason> i3dmaster: check malone on the possibility of it being a bug
[08:24] <soundray> Psi-Jack, okay, good luck :)
[08:25] <i3dmaster> _jason, ya I am going to do that and see if anyone filed a bug for that
[08:25] <ubuntu> uiu
[08:25] <soundray> KoruptidPryde, afaik, orinoco never made anything. It's just a brand name.
[08:25] <LadyNikon> ok..
[08:25] <rod> hi
[08:25] <rod> me again :)
[08:25] <rod> How to format a big disc as vfat?
[08:25] <LadyNikon> how do i install a package that isnt in the apt-get tree?
[08:25] <soundray> rod, how big?
[08:25] <Ng> soundray: correct, made by lucent/avaya or whatever they are called this week ;)
[08:25] <_jason> LadyNikon: what package?
[08:26] <rod> 200gig soundray
[08:26] <damnhil> sid : go to the doc page of ALSA
[08:26] <LadyNikon> its a vpn client
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> Holy cow.
[08:26] <KoruptidPryde> soundray, well... in general I'm trying to find an orinoco chipset minipci to replace my crappy broadcom on my compaq laptop
[08:26] <LadyNikon> ubotu: LadyNikon !install
[08:26] <ubotu> LadyNikon: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:26] <_jason> LadyNikon: you've checked universe/multiverse I assume?
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> There's Unofficial MySQL 5.0 stuff for Hoary, just not Breezy. LOL
[08:26] <LadyNikon> _jason: yep
[08:27] <damnhil> sid : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml do # lspci -v | grep -i audio
[08:27] <_jason> LadyNikon: then I would do this 1) check wiki/forums for what others have done 2) look for an ubuntu deb 3) compile from source
[08:27] <damnhil> sid: here : # alsaconf
[08:27] <rod> soundray: can you help me to make a vfat partition?
[08:27] <sid> Command "alsaconf" not found
[08:27] <soundray> rod, mkdosfs
[08:28] <rod> soundray: thnx
[08:28] <soundray> rod, read the manpage and decide accordingly.
[08:28] <sid> I just put in "grep -i audio" and its hanging there
[08:28] <soundray> rod, have you considered this well? vfat is a pain.
[08:29] <twb> gnomefreak: ok, i managed to login to gnome and find the networking control panel, but putting "lan" in the "domain name" text field and hitting OK has no effect.  When I reopen that dialog the field is blank again.
[08:29] <m_tadeu> what are the recomended webcams for ubuntu?
[08:29] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[08:30] <eyedol59> can anybody help me with grub?
[08:30] <soundray> !anyone
[08:30] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:30] <twb> Hear hear.
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: As said already, one that is supported by Linux directly is suggested. Namely webcams that use the OV511 chip.
[08:30] <sid> damnhil im going to plug my SB back in, and run some tests, ill be back
[08:30] <soundray> m_tadeu, had this discussion earlier... In my opinion, webcams aren't worth the bother. Use an old video cam with analog out and connect it to a TV card.
[08:31] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: nice :) thanx
[08:31] <gnomefreak> twb: im not sure i leave mine blank since i dont need one
[08:31] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: Pay attention next time. It'll save you the trouble of repeat questions.
[08:31] <twb> Grr.
[08:31] <m_tadeu> soundray: mmm...aren't those quite more expensive?
[08:31] <twb> I do not like changing things on the server simply because the clients are being uppity.
[08:32] <rod> soundray: i know vfat is a pain... ext2 is the other option but im planning to use this extensively and installing a ext2 driver on every machine isnt handy
[08:32] <soundray> m_tadeu, not if you pick up a used one.
[08:32] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: i don't think i ever asked this
[08:32] <Bergcube> ubotu~  I have had a little experience with that.  When asking a very detailed and specific question I've been ignored more than 50% of the times.  Beginning with something like "I have a problem with FOO" has shown actually to work better.  Strange as it might seem to a strictly logical entity like yourself.....
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> m_tadeu: You did. Yesterday.
[08:33] <soundray> rod, so this is for exchanging data on a portable disk?
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> I explicitely remember you. ;)
[08:33] <LadyNikon> forums.ubuntu.com?
[08:33] <LadyNikon> is that it?
[08:33] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: i'll pay more attention next time ;)
[08:33] <_jason> LadyNikon: ubuntuforums.org
[08:33] <m_tadeu> Psi-Jack: thnx again
[08:33] <rod> soundray: yes, its a usb disc
[08:33] <twb> Argh!    The adjective precedes the noun.
[08:36] <sid> Ok, damnhil
[08:36] <sid> 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[08:36] <soundray> rod, for Windows clients as well?
[08:36] <twb> Richard: is this a predominantly Windows network?
[08:36] <sid> So far no sound though
[08:36] <Richard> yes twb
[08:36] <XX> ion:.
[08:37] <twb> Richard: you need an SMB client.  Look for documentation for samba.
[08:37] <twb> There are also some nice front-end GUIs, but I forget the names.
[08:37] <twb> lias is one.
[08:37] <twb> *lisa
[08:37] <sid> Did damnhil leave?
[08:38] <rod> soundray: its supposed to contain some movies and music ... Im going to add and copy over some while im at some friends ... they all use windows
[08:38] <sid> Hey gnomefreak, can you help me out
[08:39] <Richard> twb: is it a program? have i to installed it?
[08:39] <eyedol59> can anybody help me with grub?
[08:39] <twb> Richard: yes.
[08:39] <soundray> rod, I think you can just use the defaults for FAT32 then, ie. 'sudo mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sd??'
[08:39] <twb> eyedol59: not until you are more specific.
[08:40] <rod> soundray: im getting old. I completely forgot about cfdisk
[08:40] <akambi> Hello every body!!
[08:40] <rod> soundray: cfdisk should do it
[08:40] <eyedol59> twb:I have a sata drive that ubuntu sees as sda
[08:40] <soundray> rod, no.
[08:40] <twb> rod: aren't we all supposed to use parted now?
[08:40] <akambi> I need some help upgrading my firefox with Ubuntu
[08:40] <eyedol59> twb:in sda0 i have Winxp
[08:40] <_jason> akambi: what versions
[08:40] <InnerF|RE> anyone familiar with spca5xx?
[08:40] <soundray> rod, you can create a partition with cfdisk, but not a vfat filesystem.
[08:40] <raul> hola
[08:40] <kyo> akambi, me! I just update it yesterday =)
[08:41] <eyedol59> twb:and in other partition i have the ubuntu os
[08:41] <anthraxnet> hola
[08:41] <twb> anthraxnet: sudo aptitude upgrade firefox
[08:41] <linkd> sda0? o0
[08:41] <akambi> to 1.05
[08:41] <anthraxnet> twb is that for me?
[08:41] <twb> anthraxnet: no, sorry.
[08:41] <eyedol59> twb:i have resintall grub with the command $ /bin/grub-install /dev/sda
[08:41] <_jason> akambi: 1.07 is in there repositories
[08:41] <kyo> akambi, just follow this instructions, its very clear
[08:41] <soundray> InnerF|RE, heard of it, used it, had problems.
[08:41] <kyo> !ff.15
[08:41] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kyo
[08:41] <twb> lazy tab completion and busy channels don't mix.
[08:41] <sid> gnomefreak are you there?
[08:41] <kyo> !ff1.5
[08:41] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:41] <eyedol59> twb:are you following me so far?
[08:41] <Richard> twb: how can i use it? I see under synaptic and it say that it is installed
[08:41] <soundray> InnerF|RE, the version in kernel 2.6.15 is better.
[08:41] <anthraxnet> twb i think nice i joint a channel and get informations without asking :-)
[08:42] <twb> eyedol59: I think so.
[08:42] <akambi> Scuz I ve mistaken I want to Upgrade to 1.5.1
[08:42] <akambi> the last version
[08:42] <kwiat> hey there, i need help with installing flash plugin for firefox (or any other browser). im on breezy 64 bit. macromedia installer says he doesnt support 64 bit yet and manually installing the 32 bit flash plugin fails. what could i do?
[08:42] <twb> Richard: Alt+F2, then type the program name.
[08:42] <_jason> akambi: and now you have 1.07?
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> Say, is there a GUI frontend to cron?
[08:42] <InnerF|RE> i have to change my kernel?
[08:42] <akambi> yes jason
[08:42] <twb> kwiat: you need to run 32bit firefox in a chroot jail.
[08:42] <kyo> crap, is this normal? I have a termina, xchat and firefox open. firefox doesn't response so I have to force quit it
[08:43] <twb> tonyyarusso: yes, crontab -e
[08:43] <_jason> akambi: ok, then see the link kyo told ubotu to say above
[08:43] <kyo> I seem to be lagging a bit ...
[08:43] <Richard> twb: is it under console?
[08:43] <akambi> kwiat use eay ubuntu
[08:43] <eyedol59> the problem is that know the grub works ok, but i can not run windows
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> twb: Sweet.
[08:43] <twb> Richard: what program?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> kyo: my firefox is great :)
[08:43] <kwiat> twb what does chroot jail mean?
[08:43] <twb> kwiat: it is something technical.
[08:43] <kwiat> akambi wat is eay ubuntu?
[08:43] <kyo> Hmm
[08:43] <thechemist> c
[08:43] <kyo> maybe its the theme or something
[08:43] <kwiat> twb thanks
[08:43] <twb> kwiat: google knows.
[08:43] <kwiat> twb which means...?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> kyo: what if you run firefox as a different user?
[08:44] <soundray> eyedol59, you have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add a menu option to boot Windows.
[08:44] <kwiat> twb thanks anyway
[08:44] <eyedol59> and when i use the tool DISKS from the UBUNTU it says that /dev/sda1 has no format, when is supposed to say that is an ntfs partition
[08:44] <akambi> easyUbuntu, is a lil stuff which add repositories to synaptics.
[08:44] <akambi> In those repos U ll find the Flash plugin
[08:44] <twb> kwiat: basically it means that you run bits of 32bit OSness within your 64bit OS.
[08:44] <bur[n] er> kyo: or mv .mozilla .mozilla-maybebroken
[08:44] <Richard> samba client, twb
[08:44] <twb> kwiat: it is a PITA.
[08:44] <twb> Richard: which samba client?
[08:44] <njs12345> kwiat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot_jail
[08:44] <soundray> eyedol59, don't worry about that for now, do the menu.lst thing.
[08:45] <twb> eyedol59: I second soundray's suggestion.
[08:45] <Richard> the program that you told me before, twb
[08:45] <kwiat> njs12345 thanks a lot
[08:45] <twb> Richard: you mean lisa?
[08:45] <eyedol59> the things that i have already that...
[08:46] <rod> soundray: thanks, the command worked! :D
[08:46] <rod> soundray: see you around :)
[08:46] <njs12345> you're welcome
[08:46] <eyedol59> and when grub tries to load the XP in that partition the only thing that is put in the screen is the word GRUB
[08:46] <Richard> no smb, to conet me a other computers in intranet
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know if there's plans to make the Keyboard Shortcuts GUI allow custom shortcuts in the future?
[08:46] <twb> eyedol59: I don't know enough about how grub talks to windows.
[08:47] <twb> I haven't use windows for many years.
[08:47] <eyedol59> :)
[08:47] <twb> If it's anything like Lilo, you have probably hosed ntldr and need to do nasty things windows-side to get a new one.
[08:47] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I don't think so, but I learned about an interesting program earlier: xbindkeys
[08:47] <mordof> blackbox is definately a really basic window management thing
[08:48] <twb> mordof: rubbish.
[08:48] <eyedol59> but do you know where the grub-install command installs grub? MBR? or the hd first primary partition?
[08:48] <AndyR> tonyyarusso, it is in the repositories i think
[08:48] <twb> mordof: aewm is a basic wm.
[08:48] <mordof> lol, i cant see your name!
[08:48] <twb> eyedol59: wherever you tell it to.
[08:48] <soundray> twb, eyedol59, normally grub chainloads the Windows bootloader, which is in the Windows partition.
[08:48] <twb> eyedol59: grub-install /dev/sda will use MBR.
[08:48] <twb> eyedol59: grub install /dev/sda1 will use the start of the first partition.
[08:48] <soundray> twb, he has grub installed, though!
[08:48] <twb> soundray: using ntldr?
[08:49] <twb> soundray: or does it bypass that altogether?
[08:49] <soundray> twb, if that's what the part is called...
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> soundray, AndyR: Thanks.
[08:49] <mordof>  twb, yeah well... i dont like basic stuff, im used to gui everything. though i will keep this installed because it is rather interesting, and once i get better with stuff i may head back to this
[08:49] <twb> ntldr is the NT bootLoadeR
[08:49] <Fleischlego> Hi there.
[08:50] <mordof> twb: but for now! off i go to kde
[08:50] <AndyR> tonyyarusso, im using it here on my inspiron 9300
[08:50] <eyedol59> ok thank you :)
[08:50] <student> hey
[08:50] <soundray> twb, the way I understand it, the "regular" master boot record boots whatever bootloader resides in the first primary partition that is marked as bootable.
[08:50] <twb> graphical terminals are the devil's toys!
[08:50] <mordof> twb: lmao
[08:50] <mordof> twb: how do i logout with blackbox?
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> AndyR: The thing I would actually want to run is the -config one though right?
[08:50] <twb> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[08:50] <mordof> twb: i thought that got rid of X?
[08:50] <twb> Right.
[08:51] <mordof> twb: i wanna stay in X, just logout
[08:51] <soundray> twb, grub does the same if you give it the chainloader command.
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> AndyR: Whoa, cool.
[08:51] <twb> mordof: if you're running a DM, it will probably restart X.
[08:51] <mordof> twb: whats a dm?
[08:51] <janno> !bin
[08:51] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, janno
[08:51] <twb> display manager.
[08:51] <mordof> lol, im still kinda new to linux
[08:51] <twb> mordof: e.g. gdm, kdm, xdm
[08:51] <mordof> oh ok
[08:52] <mordof> thx
[08:52] <twb> entrance.
[08:52] <soundray> tonyyarusso, what's cool?
[08:52] <Subliminal> lshw labels my network card as disabled, how can i enable it?
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> soundray: The program.  Looks good, will have to play around with it later.
[08:53] <soundray> tonyyarusso, ah, good.
[08:53] <Fleischlego> I got a quite strange problem. I blew up my system today. No kernel is booting, so I booted a live CD and did a chroot into my damaged system. The partition is mounted rw but I always get a 'permission denied' on /dev/null. id says I am full root. Anyone knows this problem? :)
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, off to class.
[08:54] <twb> Remind me, where do I tell the kernel the modules to load a boot?
[08:54] <twb>  /etc/modules?
[08:55] <soundray> twb, that's the one :)
[08:55] <soundray> Fleischlego, what did you do to blow it up?
[08:56] <mordof> twb, where would i go to find themes for kde?
[08:56] <twb> mordof: kde-look.org, IIRC.
[08:56] <twb> I've never used KDE.
[08:56] <kyo> Hmm how do I kill the firefox process. I force quit it
[08:56] <kyo> but when I try to open it I can't
[08:56] <kyo> so I guess I have to go to system process ... where is that?
[08:56] <twb> Real men use GNU Screen / Ratpoison and *like* it!
[08:56] <twb> kyo: killall firefox
[08:57] <twb> kyo: or maybe killall firefox-bin
[08:57] <klippo> Hi. i need help: http://pastebin.com/554750
[08:57] <Fleischlego> soundray: I installed a dapper kernel. :)
[08:57] <klippo> ive followed guide on ubuntuforums how to create .deb out of the ati installer
[08:57] <twb> kyo: please tell the firefox developers that reimplementing session management at the application level is stupid.
[08:57] <kyo> twb, still doesn't work -_-'
[08:57] <soundray> Fleischlego, oops!  It's not so bad then :)
[09:00] <kyo> twb, yup it works. thanks
[09:00] <junix-br> my gnome-applet mixer now is hide... why?
[09:00] <twb> Is it the case that ubuntu doesn't add services to /etc/rc?.d like Debian does?
[09:00] <twb> Only e.g. bpalogin(1) needs to be enabled manually with e.g. rcconf, whereas IIRC it didn't under Debian.
[09:00] <Sky06> halo
[09:01] <klippo> I followed this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[09:01] <Sky06> help me to uninstal game in ubuntu 5.10
[09:01] <twb> Sky06: aptitude install packagename_
[09:01] <Sky06> help me to uninstal games in ubuntu 5.10
[09:01] <Sky06> ok
[09:02] <lakai> anyone using an ipod successfully on dapper?
[09:02] <lakai> by successful i mean automount :-/
[09:02] <kyo> I "apt-get install amarok amarok-engines" and it installs. now how do I access amarok?
[09:02] <soundray> Fleischlego, fsck making sense?
[09:03] <kyo> hmm makes sense
[09:03] <Fleischlego> soundray: I'm kinda hugging with /dev and /proc right now. :)
[09:04] <kane__> I'm leaving... (not that anyone cares...)
[09:04] <soundray> Fleischlego, still in chroot?
[09:04] <twb> Fleischlego: /proc won't be mounted by default within the chroot.
[09:04] <Mordof> yeah... i like gnome better
[09:04] <twb> Fleischlego: mount -t proc none /proc
[09:04] <lakai> whats on with automount ? :-/
[09:04] <Fleischlego> twb: I did.
[09:04] <GTX-> lo guys, how can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:04] <Fleischlego> twb: on a 2.6 kernel I do mount -t proc proc /proc I thought? :)
[09:04] <gouchi> Hi
[09:04] <bllx> lo all
[09:04] <bllx> can anyone guess how come after I did fdisk -i on a drive (firewire), a 1MB bootstrap partition that I made on it for an ubuntulinux installation appears to be still there?
[09:04] <twb> Fleischlego: I don't think the device matters.
[09:05] <GTX-> trappist, there?
[09:05] <twb> bllx: in which OS did you run fdisk?
[09:05] <bllx> in ubuntu
[09:05] <gouchi> Dapper will have graphic grub ?
[09:05] <junco> what is the primary difference between ubuntu and debian?  software wise i mean mainly.. do they use different repositories? which would be more "up to date" ?
[09:05] <jatos> hi
[09:05] <bllx> or wait, maybe os x
[09:05] <GTX-> How can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, I've tried to find a reposity for this but cant find anything
[09:05] <twb> bllx: try parted.
[09:05] <bllx> does it matter?
[09:05] <bllx> no ubuntu
[09:06] <delaney> Is someone able to tell me the default install location for gtk engines
[09:06] <lakai> i think i just go on asking :-D
[09:06] <bllx> i tried deleting the bootstrap partition directly in parted first, didnt work
[09:06] <jatos> btw, I know my Ubuntu box got hacked earlier today, how do I go about finding who did and what they did in the meantime
[09:06] <lakai> anyone having automountig WORKING with dapper?
[09:06] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap
[09:06] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap
[09:06] <twb> dapper is a release name?
[09:06] <GTX-> Can someone help me on my question, pretty please :P
[09:06] <bllx> maybe it *has* been deleted, but ubuntu remembers it as being on that disk before so displays it in /media  -is that possible?
[09:07] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap in ubuntu 5.10
[09:07] <twb> bllx: /media depends on what was present when you installed the OS.
[09:07] <arrinmurr> jatos: how do you know it got hacked then?
[09:07] <lakai> Sky06: gparted
[09:07] <twb> bllx: unless you run an automounter like automount or autofs.
[09:07] <bllx> really?! well that might explain it then
[09:07] <rewt_> everytime i reboot my ubuntu, my sound doesnt work. I must run 'sudo modprobe snd_atiixp' then after that I must run 'esd &' can anyone tell me why?
[09:07] <kyo> GTX, just ask, don't ask to ask
[09:08] <twb> rewt_: add 'snd_atiixp' to /etc/modules as root.
[09:08] <bllx> twb, so its just like an invalid short-cut type thing
[09:08] <BootyBabe> hello, how much disk space needs ubuntu?
[09:08] <bllx> an old alias
[09:08] <twb> bllx: uh, kind of.
[09:08] <twb> bllx: check /etc/fstab for cruft, too.
[09:08] <bllx> should I /can I delete it?
[09:08] <rewt_> what about the & esd?
[09:08] <jatos> well the fact all my file seemed to have been access between 12:18-12:20, and a litte message when it shutdown saying "Your system will self-destruct in 5 seconds. Have a nice day"
[09:08] <twb> BootyBabe: about 2Gb for the desktop install.
[09:08] <GTX-> How can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, I've tried to find a reposity for this but cant find anything
[09:08] <twb> rewt_: GNOME should do that automagically, I believe.
[09:08] <Mordof> how hard is it to install a login manager?
[09:08] <bllx> so I can stop formatting that drive though, and assume the bbotstrap part was deleted
[09:09] <rewt_> I have to manually do it lately
[09:09] <twb> Mordof: aptitude install xdm
[09:09] <jatos> I had directly connected to the internet for the day when its normally on a network with a firewall that blocks all incoming connectionsd
[09:09] <Sky06> how to resize partition swap in ubuntu 5.10
[09:09] <bllx> twb
[09:09] <bllx> whats cruft?
[09:09] <twb> bllx: to examine the actual drive, run "parted print /dev/XXX"
[09:09] <soundray> Sky06, aren't you listening?
[09:09] <Sky06> root@mentariNet:~# man gparted
[09:09] <twb> bllx: where XXX is the device name.
[09:09] <Sky06> No manual entry for gparted
[09:09] <bllx> ok
[09:09] <BootyBabe> twb but i'm using 18GB and the installation says: not enough space
[09:09] <soundray> !info gparted
[09:09] <ubotu> gparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB
[09:10] <twb> Sky06: aptitude install gparted
[09:10] <Mordof> twb, i downloaded one... not sure if that changes anything
[09:10] <GTX-> twb, could you help me with my question please?
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: no.
[09:10] <GTX-> k
[09:10] <Angel_Dex> Hello all!
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: I can only answer questions that I can answer.
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: sorry.
[09:10] <GTX-> fair enough :p
[09:10] <GTX-> np
[09:10] <bllx> twb, so you think i can remove the /media/bootstrap ghost partition by messing with fstab ?
[09:10] <rewt_> like if i run 'sudo modprobe snd_atiixp' then i can start the esd &
[09:10] <twb> GTX-: if it makes you feel any better, no one can answer my question, either :-(
[09:10] <rewt_> if I try esd & before hand I get errors
[09:11] <Angel_Dex> How Do i set up wireless internet?
[09:11] <twb> bllx: yes, and by running "rmdir /media/bootstrap" as root.
[09:11] <bllx> excellent thanks
[09:11] <twb> rewt_: right, because until the modprobe, the system believes you have no sound cards.
[09:11] <soundray> Angel_Dex, still no luck? Shame...
[09:11] <twb> Angel_Dex: with great difficulty.
[09:11] <bllx> but just doing rmdir on it as root wont be enough probably, yeh?
[09:11] <rewt_> ok so how do I go about adding it to whatever to make it automatic/
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> soundray not for me for a friend who im trying to persude into ubuntu
[09:12] <twb> bllx: why not do both?
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> twb damn
[09:12] <bllx> ok
[09:12] <bllx> just gotta work out what cruft is
[09:12] <bllx> i thought it was a dog show
[09:12] <bllx> ;)
[09:12] <naetrick> Holy crap! It works! Thank _God_
[09:12] <soundray> Angel_Dex, don't persuade. Convince!
[09:12] <twb> http://google.com.au/search?q=site:catb.org jargon cruft
[09:12] <bllx> roger ;)
[09:12] <twb> http://google.com.au/search?q=site:catb.org+jargon+cruft
[09:12] <Angel_Dex> soundray if he cant get internet with his wireless lappy he wont be convinced at all
[09:13] <soundray> !info cruft
[09:13] <ubotu> cruft: (Find any cruft built up on your system), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.9.6-0.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 640 kB
[09:13] <rewt_> How do I do this 'add 'snd_atiixp' to /etc/modules as root.'
[09:13] <Mordof> twb, for Angel_Dex, what about KWifiManager?
[09:13] <delaney> I want to install   ** gtk-engines-2.7.3  **  would anyone know where that should be installed to? or is /opt fine?
[09:13] <twb> soundray: not cruft(1), crutft!
[09:13] <twb> MoeZzz: I've had no luck with it.
[09:13] <Angel_Dex> Mordof hes got a IBM lappy
[09:13] <twb> Er, s/MoeZzz/Mordof/
[09:14] <bllx> crutft ?
[09:14] <twb> Angel_Dex: basically it will be a PITA unless you are very lucky.
[09:14] <MoeZzz> i need help installing ubuntu ... can any one help me please ?
[09:14] <twb> bllx: typo.
[09:14] <twb> MoeZzz: never!
[09:14] <bllx> cruft
[09:14] <twb> MoeZzz: we are all windows users!
[09:14] <bllx> k
[09:14] <rewt_> MoeZzz what about install?
[09:14] <bllx> thanks
[09:14] <Mordof> hahaha
[09:14] <Angel_Dex> twb ho hum
[09:14] <GTX-> How can I fix error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, I've tried to find a reposity for this but cant find anything
[09:14] <set> !obouto write ntfs
[09:14] <ubotu> set: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:15] <set> !obouto write to ntfs
[09:15] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, set
[09:15] <soundray> Angel_Dex, find out the model name and search the web for installation reports. Recommend tuxmobil.de
[09:15] <set> !obouto writentfs
[09:15] <ubotu> set: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:15] <Mordof> ok, so how do i go about installing a splash screen and a login manager that i downloaded off of Gnome Art?
[09:15] <soundray> !ntfs
[09:15] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:15] <_jason> set: please don't spam the bot and writing to ntfs is not safe
[09:15] <twb> set: you are looking for the ntfs rw patch?
[09:15] <Angel_Dex> soundray thanks
[09:15] <sid> Can somenoe help me enable my sound card?
[09:15] <set> twb, yes
[09:15] <marseillai> anyone could tell where i can find (K)ubuntu for a sun ? i've heard about this but i don't find it!
[09:15] <twb> set: it sucks.
[09:15] <twb> set: it sucks a lot.
[09:15] <sid> !sound
[09:15] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:15] <twb> set: come back in 18 months.
[09:16] <set> twb, I need to fix boot.ini
[09:16] <Mordof> set, afaik its a bad idea to try to write to ntfs currently
[09:16] <sid> How do I restart my sound server?
[09:16] <Mordof> set, use the windows cd and do a repair
[09:16] <_jason> twb: you can probably do that somehow with the windows disk, although I don't know how
[09:16] <_jason> set I mean
[09:17] <set> Mordof, tried that
[09:17] <rewt_> Okay I just added rewt_: add 'snd_atiixp' to /etc/modules as root.
[09:17] <sid> Anyone? How do I restart my sound server?
[09:17] <Florob> sid: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[09:17] <set> Mordof, I know exactly what the error is... just need to change what partition it loads and it's fixed
[09:17] <arrinmurr> GTX-: google is your friend: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-104778.html
[09:17] <set> it's either that, or change the number of the windows partition
[09:17] <rewt_> So if I reboot it should work fine, in theory?
[09:17] <Mordof> set, then make a floppy that will boot up and edit the .ini file
[09:17] <sid> Florab, no file or directory
[09:18] <soundray> set, have a look at http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6659533347.html
[09:18] <soundray> set it may help.
[09:18] <twb> sid: aptitude reinstall alsa-utils
[09:18] <set> reading now
[09:18] <puppet> Hia anyone awake to help me with some charset issue?
[09:18] <GuestUMme> Hi every body!!
[09:18] <Angel_Dex> is setting up wireless difficult on just ubuntu or linux in general?
[09:18] <GuestUMme> somebody here can help me!!??
[09:18] <Florob> sid: might also be /etc/init.d/alsa restart on breezy (I'm on dapper right now)
[09:18] <twb> puppet: only if you stand on your head and drink a bucket of air.
[09:19] <GuestUMme> i got a doubt in ubuntu!
[09:19] <GuestUMme> _:S
[09:19] <soundray> Angel_Dex, on free operating systems in general.
[09:19] <twb> GuestUMme: no, speak up!
[09:19] <Mordof> Angel_Dex, my friend had troubles in fc as well
[09:19] <rewt_> Angel are you potty trained?
[09:19] <sid> I did that, and still none
[09:19] <sid> Im on Hoary
[09:19] <GuestUMme> :(
[09:19] <soundray> Angel_Dex, that's because of legal issues and closed hardware.
[09:19] <twb> Angel_Dex: the difficulty is crackhead hardware manufacturers.
[09:19] <puppet> twb: sure i can do that
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> Ok
[09:19] <puppet> twb: as long i get right on the local in irssi ;P
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> Many thanks my friends
[09:19] <Angel_Dex> I must leave
[09:19] <set> Wouldn't it be possible to change the numbers of the different partitions, then reconfigure grub and everything works, instead of changing the number of the partition within boot.ini ?
[09:20] <Florob> sid: judging from google this should work
[09:20] <GuestUMme> somebody here may tell me what is the name of the aplication the it's in this page   http://guias-ubuntu.ourproject.org/index.php?title=Imagen:Propiedades_del_interfaz.png??
[09:20] <GuestUMme> :S
[09:20] <Mordof> set, changing partition numbers n stuff will screw with windows loading correctly afaik
[09:20] <sid> Ive done a number of things ive found on google, nothing has worked
[09:20] <GuestUMme> please...
[09:20] <Mordof> set, thugh im not sure
[09:20] <set> Mordof, well. Guess what I did earlier? :P
[09:20] <Mordof> doing stuff like that outside of windows tends to make things weird
[09:20] <set> So, I want to change it back
[09:21] <Mordof> lol
[09:21] <Mordof> you were the one to change it?
[09:21] <puppet>  get strange in Irssi
[09:21] <graft> any amarok users here?
[09:21] <twb> Blame irssi.
[09:21] <olicat> anyone have much experience with using xkeycaps or xmodmap ?
[09:21] <puppet> but the problem is really that i cant generate other then UTF-8 locales
[09:21] <_jason> GuestUMme: looks like system > admin > networking > properties
[09:21] <sid> Eh, screw it florad, ill just upgrade to Breezy
[09:21] <sid> :D
[09:21] <puppet> dpkg-reconfigure just generate UTF-8
[09:21] <twb>
[09:21] <GuestUMme> yes I know nut i wanna install it in debian
[09:21] <twb> !
[09:22] <GuestUMme> but i do not know is name
[09:22] <GuestUMme> :s
[09:22] <GuestUMme> :(
[09:22] <set> Mordof, I installed Linux first, then Windows. Windows is on partition 3. I reinstall Linux, make it only one partition, Windows turns into Partition 2 and won't boot because boot.ini tells Windows bootloader that Windows is located in partition 3. So either I change the numbers of the partitions or boot.ini
[09:22] <marseillai> anyone could tell where i can find (K)ubuntu for a sun ? i've heard about this but i don't find it!
[09:22] <GuestUMme> i've benn looking for it but i did not got it :(
[09:23] <soop> anyone familiar with samba?
[09:23] <Mordof> set, would be better to change boot.ini, do you have or are able to make a win98 bootdisk?
[09:23] <twb> If you don't have enough machines to run windows on a dedicated box, you probably don't have the experience to set up a dual boot system properly.
[09:23] <twb> That's what I say, anyway.
[09:23] <soundray> set, use parted to resize your Linux partition and add a tiny extra partition. Then Windows will be on 3 again.
[09:23] <Mordof> twb,  why not
[09:24] <twb> Mordof: why not what?
[09:24] <set> twb, you are completely right. I am the newbie and you are the master of everything.  Not everybody lives in an affluent country.
[09:24] <twb> Ot
[09:24] <set> soundray, problem is that Windows partition isn't the first one
[09:24] <Mordof> its just a matter of which OS to install first
[09:24] <soundray> set, my suggestion still applies.
[09:24] <Mordof> install windows, install linux. linux does everything, all OS's work fine
[09:24] <kyo> I want to organize my music colleciton. what is the bash line to organize by muscian?
[09:24] <thespore> How can I enable tv out?  I have a nvidia card w/ svideo-out and on Ubuntu 5.10
[09:24] <twb> Mordof: well, in *theory*.
[09:25] <set> soundray, I tried that by installing Ubuntu. But Ubuntu partitioner just made the two linux partitions 1 and 3
[09:25] <Mordof> twb, its always worked for me..
[09:25] <twb> Maybe it's improved lately
[09:25] <LadyNikon> what directory is the kernel located?
[09:25] <soundray> set, use parted to resize your Linux partition and add a tiny extra partition. Then Windows will be on 3 again.
[09:25] <soundray> set, did you read this?
[09:25] <rehpotsirhc> just type "organize t e h musak!@$!@$#!"
[09:25] <set> I'll try it. thanks
[09:25] <twb> My last dual boot system was OS X and Debian.
[09:25] <soop> >
[09:25] <soop> ?
[09:26] <Mordof> twb, in that case.. i wouldnt know which to work with first, and would probably screw things up
[09:26] <Mordof> ah! i wish i could find a guide to installing these stupid splash screens and login managers :S
[09:26] <kyo> Hmm interesting, amoraok organized the music for me. w00t
[09:26] <set> twb, fyi, I've been dual booting since 2001. Made one mistake. Not coming here to ask what mistake I did, coming here for advices on how to a) write to ntfs b) fix the partition table. What's up with the arrogance?
[09:26] <twb> set: because I'm the greatest person in the world.
[09:26] <soundray> set, don't take the bait ;)
[09:27] <kyo> oh crap, my CD drive won't open o_O
[09:27] <kyo> guess I have to manually eject it
[09:27] <mark__> what's the sudo apt-get command thing to build all essentials
[09:27] <twb> Maybe I should have said "experience to fix any cock-ups that arise" rather than simply "set up".
[09:27] <_jason> kyo: right click and go to eject
[09:27] <Mordof> how do i set my splash screen? its just a jpg image
[09:27] <twb> kyo: linux locks drives that are in use.
[09:27] <soundray> kyo, no, just do 'cd' in every open terminal and eject via the desktop icon.
[09:28] <twb> kyo: cat /proc/mounts to see where it is mounted, then use umount to unmount it.
[09:28] <MrFreeBird> hi guys. I have ubuntu installed in 2 machines on my office.  There is another linux server with samba installed, and it has many shared folders. Unfortunately, ubuntu machines does not see it. Whats wrong?
[09:28] <mark__> hey, can someone tell me the 'sudo apt-get' thing to build essentials?
[09:28] <kyo> hmm there, did it
[09:28] <soundray> twb, you are the greates person in the world. No need to correct yourself :)
[09:28] <set> twb, let me guess. unemployed, bitter on the world? guru in linux 'cause you ain't got nothing better to do? Bitter on the people that actually have better things to do than run around playing with their personal serverpark?
[09:29] <soundray> *greatest
[09:29] <twb> soundray: being great doesn't mean being infallible.
[09:29] <soundray> set, please!
[09:29] <olicat> does anyone know how i can make alt+3 produce a hash sign? i'm having some trouble getting it to work
[09:29] <MrFreeBird>  other machines with winXP can see the shared folder in linux server
[09:29] <olicat> xkeycaps says the keycode does produce a hash/pound sign - but it doesn't seem to work
[09:29] <twb> set: actually, I get paid to make Linux distributions.
[09:29] <soundray> set, I want to help you. Once you're kickbanned, that won't be possible.
[09:30] <twb> soundray: he ain't causin' no trouble.
[09:30] <_jason> set, twb: take it somewhere else please
[09:30] <twb> As you wish.
[09:31] <thespore> anyone know how to enable svideo out with ubuntu 5.10?
[09:31] <set> soundray, I shrinked and made a new partition. ntfs partition is still 2 and the new is 4
[09:31] <LadyNikon> what directory is the kernel located?  I need to know to install a program.
[09:31] <thespore> ie. enable 'clone' mode?
[09:31] <MrFreeBird> why cant I see other machines on my network?
[09:31] <soundray> set, did you shrink the first one?
[09:31] <set> yes
[09:31] <soundray> set, okay, sorry, I was wrong.
[09:32] <set> Ah. Now I know what to do. Don't worry. You've been of great help! :)
[09:32] <soundray> set, pity you p*ssed twb off.
[09:32] <set> soundray, I have to leave xchat to reboot into a live cd
[09:32] <soundray> set, okay, hope it works.
[09:32] <learner_learner> how can I optimise 5.10 to make it run as fast as possible...  Acting like an asshole spawns asshole actions towards yourself.
[09:32] <set> C'ya and thanks
[09:32] <olicat> anyone have any idea how to get my keyboard to produce hash/pound signs??
[09:32] <_jason> learner_learner: try xfce instead of gnome, or maybe even something like fluxbox
[09:33] <learner_learner> okay, _jason
[09:33] <Siempre_Es_De_No> server irc.unionlatina.org
[09:33] <MrFreeBird> help : ubuntu + samba = not working properly
[09:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell learner_learner about xubuntu
[09:33] <soundray> olicat, what layout are you using?
[09:33] <Spec> Where can I get me a guideline for making packages for ubuntu?
[09:34] <olicat> soundray, its uk
[09:34] <MrFreeBird> join #ubuntu-br
[09:34] <raphael> hi
[09:34] <raphael> the ubuntu, can be a server?
[09:34] <soundray> olicat, you don't have a # next to ]  ?
[09:34] <raphael> i newbie on linux lol
[09:34] <olicat> soundray, no, it's a mac keyboard
[09:34] <Spec> ubuntu-br?
[09:35] <hortian> hey folks... I think I might've made a pretty careless error in install ubuntu, and I'm wondering if there is a way to recover
[09:35] <Creeture> raphael: Yes. There is also a ubuntu server project that is more tuned to a server.
[09:35] <Creeture> hortian: Explain said error and we'll fix ya up.
[09:35] <soundray> olicat, Shift-Ctrl-23
[09:35] <_jason> Spec: checkout the topic in #ubuntu-motu
[09:35] <MrFreeBird> sorry, I typed wrong
[09:35] <raphael> is the 5.10?
[09:35] <kyo> what the heck ... my desktop is freezing up. windows won't close
[09:35] <olicat> soundray, no way, that does it
[09:36] <mark__> hey, can someone tell me the 'sudo apt-get' thing to build essentials?
[09:36] <olicat> soundray, can i remap that to just alt+3 ?
[09:36] <rewt_> When I add volume control to my menu, it doesnt show up? i mean its there i can right click for 20 mins and eventually find it, but why can I physically see it?
[09:36] <_jason> mark__: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:36] <raphael> ?
[09:36] <soundray> olicat, anything's possible, but don't ask me how :)
[09:36] <MrFreeBird> My ubuntu machine does not see other machines on network
[09:36] <hortian> basically, I had ubuntu installed on one partition, then installed windows on another partition (and the windows installer set the new partition as the default boot partition) ... I went back to the livecd to manually set the boot partition to the original ubuntu partition, but when I restart, it says that there is an error loading my OS
[09:36] <Creeture> raphael: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[09:36] <Draconicus> X just crashed for no apparent reasoN!
[09:36] <Draconicus> reason*
[09:37] <olicat> soundray, :) thanks for that, at least it's a clue
[09:37] <lakcaj> Draconicus, nothing in /var/log?
[09:37] <Spec> _jason: thanks muchly.
[09:37] <Draconicus> I think mplayer was broken and running in a background process... um.. lemme check that, lakcaj.
[09:37] <hortian> I'm sure that windows rewrote the boot records in a bad way, or something, but is there any way to fix it?
[09:37] <mark__> checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 3246: lex: command not found
[09:37] <mark__> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[09:37] <raphael> Creeture, i have this ubuntu
[09:37] <Creeture> hortian: It is just a Grub setup error.
[09:37] <mark__> what would I have to install to make that work
[09:37] <mark__> some 'lex' library? :\
[09:37] <raphael> but how can i config it
[09:37] <slept> where is libdvdcss2 for breezy ?
[09:38] <rewt_> When I add volume control to my menu, it doesnt show up? i mean its there i can right click for 20 mins and eventually find it, but why can I physically see it? Can anyone help? :-\ Running Breezy
[09:38] <raphael> o sorry, i have read wrong
[09:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell slept about libdvdcss
[09:38] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ok, gave up with /proc at the moment, fsck running.
[09:38] <hortian> Creeture: is there a way to fix that by editing the grub configuration?
[09:38] <Creeture> raphael: That is a much different question.
[09:38] <Creeture> hortian: Absolutely.
[09:38] <raphael> i have the Breezy Badger
[09:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell hortian about grub
[09:39] <soundray> hortian, you can reinstall grub from a live CD.
[09:39] <mark__> is there some lex library I can install?
[09:39] <raphael> is the Breezy Badger, a server?
[09:39] <_jason> raphael: if you want it to be
[09:39] <raphael> _jason.. how?
[09:39] <rehpotsirhc> friends--tell me about this badger. is he cuddly??
[09:39] <amphi> raphael: what do you mean by 'server'?
[09:39] <soop> anyone familiar with SAMBA and ADS integration?
[09:40] <GTX-> Guys on vnc4server, why cant I see my desktop only a console?
[09:40] <Fleischlego> soundray: 2 found corruptions can be fixed when running with --fix-fixable <- BAH
[09:40] <raphael> i want, to do, a dns server, just to me use and a web sever
[09:40] <Draconicus> lakcaj: Fatal server error:
[09:40] <Draconicus>  Caught signal 7.  Server aborting
[09:40] <Draconicus> Whoops..
[09:40] <amphi> mark__: apt-get install flex
[09:40] <Draconicus> Sorry about the double line.
[09:40] <GTX-> Who knows somethng about vnc here?
[09:40] <mark__> thanks very much amphi :)
[09:40] <GTX-> vnc4server
[09:40] <Creeture> raphael: Have you ever configured a DNS server or web server before on any other operating systems?
[09:40] <raphael> no
[09:41] <soundray> Fleischlego, so do it -- is there a problem with that?
[09:41] <Creeture> I'm going to need a flash of lightning for this one.
[09:41] <amphi> raphael: you can do that - apache is one webserver; do you need a full blown dns server? dnsmasq is a handy caching dns forwarder, if not
[09:41] <Spec> I suggest standing on a roof and holding a large metal rod.
[09:41] <GTX-> Guys, what should I use to remotly see my desktop linux  to linux ( I need something like vnc )
[09:41] <Creeture> Spec: Care to join me? Afterward, I plan on walking to Antarctica.
[09:41] <MrFreeBird> alguem do brasil?
[09:42] <raphael> well, i use a internet dsl, but have a IP dinamic
[09:42] <raphael> eu sou do brasil
[09:42] <_jason> GTX-: do you want to connect through windows to the thing you enable in system > prefs > remote desktop?
[09:42] <_jason> !br
[09:42] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:42] <soundray> GTX-, how about vnc? xvncviewer host:0
[09:42] <raphael> and i wanna do a litle webser, justo to do one homepage
[09:42] <MrFreeBird> raphael, tudo bem? pode me ajudar?
[09:42] <amphi> raphael: dyndns perhaps
[09:42] <amphi> raphael: apache is very over-powered for that
[09:42] <Creeture> GTX-: There's an extension to VNC that allows :0 to serve as a VNC server. xfb0server I think it's called.
[09:43] <Spec> Creeture: That seems perfectly reasonable. I've been waiting for my chance to eat a penguin, anyways.
[09:43] <JloR> quad__ - hi :)
[09:43] <raphael> ai kra, falou pra entra no ubuntu-br entra, la q ai a galera num bloqueia, mas se quiser me add no msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:43] <amphi> raphael: do apt-cache search httpd for various web servers available
[09:43] <Windkracht8> gok has become the most irritating program in the world(yes worst then Windows), somehow the programmers thought it would be nice if gok would take over the control over the mouse and limit your mouse to the gok-program window, how the hell am I supposed to turn this off?
[09:43] <naetrick> Why is hdparm giving me "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" when I try to turn on DMA on my drive (hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda)?
[09:43] <naetrick> Do I need some support or something in the kernel?
[09:43] <MrFreeBird> raphael, eu tenho ubuntu instalado numa maquina. Nao consigo encergar as outras que possuem compartilhamento.
[09:43] <amphi> naetrick: quite possibly
[09:43] <Buxexa> Anyone knows if the 'apt-get install j2re1.4' works on AMD64?
[09:44] <raphael> amphi, i have to type this on terminal?
[09:44] <_jason> naetrick: did you use sudo?
[09:44] <amphi> raphael: yes
[09:44] <naetrick> _jason: I was root :)
[09:44] <_jason> naetrick: hrmm, don't know then
[09:44] <MrFreeBird> raphael, mas as maquinas com windows conseguem
[09:44] <amphi> raphael: then you can do apt-cache show package_name for more info
[09:44] <soundray> Windkracht8, don't know gok, but usually it's an F key or something like Alt-Enter that liberates your mouse.
[09:44] <naetrick> probably some option not enabled in the kernel, lemme check
[09:44] <raphael> noh kra eh sou novo no linux tmb, eh melhor se entrar no ubuntu-br
[09:44] <Creeture> GTX-: Don't listen to me. _jason was correct. Just System / Preferences / Remote Desktop and turn it on.
[09:44] <quad__> :D JloR
[09:44] <Windkracht8> ok, going to try everything
[09:44] <amphi> naetrick: ide chipset support? dma support?
[09:44] <rewt_> When I add volume control to my menu, it doesnt show up? i mean its there i can right click for 20 mins and eventually find it, but why can I physically see it? Does no one know? :-\ Running Breezy
[09:45] <naetrick> amphi: That's it, just found it :)
[09:45] <Draconicus> In addition to X suddenly crashing as it did, xscreensaver has been acting odd. The daemon for xscreensaver has been stopping at random. Any ideas as to what my problem might be?
[09:45] <naetrick> I was _wondering_ why my drive was going so dang slow
[09:45] <meuserj> Any brave soul here get Dapper working with a Dual Monitor setup?
[09:45] <Creeture> naetrick: Could be your chipset support.
[09:45] <_jason> GTX-: vncviewer works to view your desktop, xvncviewer that soundray I haven't used but that's probably similar
[09:45] <Creeture> meuserj: It's no different than any other dual monitor setup in Linux.
[09:45] <amphi> naetrick: build ide chipset support monolithically ;)
[09:45] <hortian> Creeture: sorry, I'm still not seeing how to do this
[09:45] <raphael> amphi, what package name i shou type?
[09:46] <Creeture> hortian: What were we talking about again?
[09:46] <hortian> the partition with ubuntu did not change, it's still the first partition
[09:46] <Fleischlego> soundray: Okay, fsck done, what should I do now_
[09:46] <Engla> Hello. Is there any way to make transset "permanent". So that certain apps always have their opacity set to != 1 ?
[09:46] <Creeture> Ah.  You're grub guy.
[09:46] <hortian> how do I need to change the grub configuration?
[09:46] <meuserj> Creeture: I beg to differ... had it working perfectly under warty, hoary, and breezy, but Dapper freezes my machine solid when I try to start X with a second screen setup.
[09:46] <raphael> [b] amphi[/b]
[09:46] <soundray> Fleischlego, burn some incense, slaughter a lamb, pray and reboot.
[09:47] <jatos> anyone know where ssh logs are stored?
[09:47] <Creeture> meuserj: Sounds like a bug then. If you know how to do it in 1 version, stands to reason that you're intelligent enough to make it work again in a newer one.
[09:47] <amphi> raphael: one that looks interesting in the output of apt-cache search httpd
[09:47] <Buxexa> Anyone knows if the 'apt-get install j2re1.4' works on AMD64?
[09:47] <soundray> _jason, it's the same.
[09:47] <_jason> jatos: auth logs show up in /var/logs/auth.log*
[09:47] <_jason> soundray: ah
[09:47] <jatos> ah
[09:48] <amphi> raphael: BTW, my nick is not '[b] amphi[/b] '
[09:48] <jatos> is that the log for just ssh, or for logins with everything?
[09:48] <jatos> I am trying to track down a hacking attempt
[09:48] <_jason> jatos: everything
[09:48] <Set> I fixed it
[09:48] <Draconicus> Wow. My very DEFAULT X just crashed on me, standard from the properly burned, perfectly installed Ubuntu Breezy Badger, and nobody is freaking out?!
[09:48] <_jason> jatos: but the lines relevant to ssh will mention ssh
[09:48] <Set> and only one nerd had a nervous breakdown. new record
[09:48] <amphi> Draconicus: not in the least
[09:48] <Creeture> hortian: It's for a different distro, but Gentoo's documentation on grub is pretty good. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[09:48] <jatos>  thanks
[09:48] <Ng> Draconicus: I'll set my hair on ofire and run around if you like? ;)
[09:48] <raphael__> i use [b]  to do letter on bold, sorry
[09:49] <Draconicus> Well, crashing X is a big issue...
[09:49] <amphi> raphael__: I suspected as much
[09:49] <Ng> Draconicus: does the Xorg log in /var/log/ show anything? (it might have been renamed if X has started up again since)
[09:49] <Ng> Draconicus: indeed, so if you have any information I would strongly urge you to file a bug report
[09:49] <Ng> X should never crash
[09:49] <amphi> hahahaha
[09:49] <Ng> the issue is complicated a lot by binary drivers though
[09:49] <Draconicus> Ng: "Fatal server error: Caught signal 7.  Server aborting
[09:49] <Draconicus> " That's all I've got.
[09:49] <Creeture> Ng: hahahahahahahahahahahah One of the funniest things I've ever heard.
[09:49] <Buxexa> Anyone knows if the 'apt-get install j2re1.4' works on AMD64? PLEASE!!!
[09:49] <Jason> hey guys...im having trouble installing Ubuntu 5.10 on an iBook G3 300MHz...anyone think they can help?
[09:50] <Ng> Creeture: maybe you misinterpreted it then
[09:50] <raphael__> i don't know how to type bol here, on mirc was in this way, sorry so much
[09:50] <kyo> Jason,  be more specific
[09:50] <_jason> raphael__: you just do _bold_
[09:50] <Jason> i am able to boot from the install/live cds
[09:50] <Draconicus> Jason: Did you download the PPC version?
[09:50] <Ng> Draconicus: were you doing anything in particular at the time? if you can reproduce the crash it would be much easier to hunt
[09:50] <soundray> Buxexa, why shouldn't it, and why don't you just try?
[09:50] <Jason> yes
[09:50] <Jason> ppc version
[09:50] <Draconicus> Hmm..
[09:50] <_jason> raphael__: lol except thats underline, I mean *bold*
[09:50] <amphi> Ng: although, to be fair, xorg has _never_ crashed for me (unlike xfree86) - wm's are another story of course
[09:50] <raphael__> ok
[09:50] <Creeture> Ng: All I heard was "should never crash". That was enough to be funny.
[09:51] <raphael__> but, come back on webserver lol, how can i config?
[09:51] <Buxexa> soundray,  because it's 22mb and Im downloading for 5kb/s
[09:51] <MisterN> brb
[09:51] <amphi> raphael__: by reading the copious documentation provided ;)
[09:51] <Buxexa> soundray,  and I only saw one instalation method for java on the Ubuntu Wiki site...
[09:51] <raphael__> where?
[09:51] <Jason> when i type install as the first command...it looks ok until it says "setting up filesystem" and then it shows all these different errors
[09:51] <Draconicus> Ng: I suspect that it had something to do with mplayer. Things were bogging down, and I recalled that, in other Linux distros, I've experienced mplayer deciding to stay open even when it's closed and finished. I went into gnome-system-monitor, and X crashed a second after it opened, which was preceded by a great deal of lag and memory consumption.
[09:52] <Jason> and it finally says "Kernal panic- not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[09:52] <Jason> "rebooting in 180 seconds"
[09:52] <Jason> anyone know what that means?
[09:52] <amphi> Draconicus: what mplayer driver were you using?
[09:52] <Ng> Draconicus: hmm (and yes, mplayer does love to hang around)
[09:53] <instabin> !azureus
[09:53] <ubotu> hmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:53] <Ng> Draconicus: try playing the same movie and see if you can provoke it again maybe?
[09:53] <soundray> Buxexa, if you give me a few minutes, I will try installing it here (on amd64).
[09:53] <Draconicus> amphi: "mplayer driver"? o_O
[09:53] <Jason> sorry...idk what mplayer is
[09:53] <amphi> Draconicus: -vo foo
[09:53] <Draconicus> Ng: I can't be certain which movie it was playing. I hadn't played anything in mplayer for a day or so. It must have been running, though, in the background.
[09:53] <Fleischlego> soundray: No change, smame problem exists.
[09:53] <Buxexa> soundray,  do u have java plugin for FireFox ?!
[09:53] <soundray> Buxexa, no.
[09:53] <Ng> Draconicus: ah, doh
[09:53] <amphi> Draconicus: or vo=foo in ~/.mplayer/conifg
[09:54] <raphael__> amphi? where can i see the documentation?
[09:54] <amphi> *config
[09:54] <Buxexa> then try it for me please...
[09:54] <MoeZzz> anyone can help me installing ubuntu ?
[09:54] <soundray> Buxexa, I have an old laptop with 32bit for when I really need flash or java.
[09:54] <amphi> raphael__: /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE_NAME, man whatever_it_is, man whatever_it_is.conf, google, ...
[09:54] <Set> soundray, I fixed it :) Just booted into Windows recovery, ran a command I don't remember in the speed, used SimplyMepis to reinstall Grub and all was good. Thanks for the tip!
[09:54] <kyo> MoeZzz, whats the question
[09:54] <TLE> Hi, I'm lookign for a program for cutting mpeg streams (recorded with my TV card). In Windoze I found one with a quick jump function, so that if you pressed wuickjump it showed you 16 pictures with say 15 seconds interval, which ypu could then choose to jump to. Does anyone know if there exist a soultion like that for Ubuntu (Has to be without audio sync problems, I've had to many of those ;) )
[09:55] <soundray> Set, well done, glad it worked.
[09:55] <soundray> Fleischlego, are you back on the live CD?
[09:55] <Fleischlego> soundray: Booting.
[09:55] <raphael__> ok thanks
[09:55] <Set> soundray, Yeah. Now I can go bother some other developers. :)
[09:55] <MoeZzz> kyo: i have installed ubuntu and when it finished it asked me to take the CD and the to Continue.. then the system rebooted while turning on my system didnt find any bootable devive, i set it to boot from HDD and still have the same problem
[09:55] <Draconicus> amphi: Again, I can't be sure what I was playing at the time. Some files were actually deleted or moved when I had finished watching them.
[09:55] <Set> thx and bye
[09:56] <phbc50> hello
[09:56] <zubuntu> hi all
[09:57] <oonoon> did someone install matlab on ubuntu x86_64 ?
[09:57] <oonoon> it seems to be impossible; damn ubuntu
[09:57] <soundray> Buxexa, installed, now testing...
[09:57] <Fleischlego> soundray: Back on line. :)
[09:58] <tomek_> Hi
[09:58] <tomek_> my name is tom
[09:58] <Buxexa> soundray,  Are u talking about the apt-get install j2re1.4 ?!
[09:58] <quad__> My soundcard isnt making any sound, how do I check the drivers/settings?
[09:58] <tomek_> I from Poland
[09:58] <_jason> !pl
[09:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[09:58] <soundray> Buxexa, yes. I've got ImageJ running with it now.
[09:58] <tomek_> aha ok
[09:58] <quad__> And i am not sure what brand the card is, its onboard and _old_
[09:58] <Buxexa> soundray,  then, its working?
[09:59] <alec_guiness> hi!
[09:59] <hortian> Creeture: looks like I got it working, thanks!
[09:59] <Jason> so does anyone have an ideas to fix my problem?
[09:59] <bobopopomo> hi
[09:59] <bobopopomo> anyone can help me with pinnacle tv-card?
[09:59] <bobopopomo> i have no sound
[09:59] <alec_guiness> im looking for a way to restrict access of users to their home directory and any links inside that directory
[09:59] <jenda> !dvd
[09:59] <ubotu> dvd is probably DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:59] <rend> how can i see whan process is using /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[09:59] <Psi-Jack> Unable to install the selectect kernel. An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system.  Kernel Package: 'linux-386'   <-- I get this error when I setup an installation to multiple partitions, /boot, /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.. When I setup just a /boot and / it's worked. This has happened on TWO machines now, and I need to know what's wrong, and why it keeps doing this.
[10:00] <soundray> Buxexa, there is a libjavaplugin... I can test that, too, if that would help.
[10:00] <soundray> Fleischlego, does grub give you any errors?
[10:00] <alec_guiness> basically an encrypted file server that gives upload rights in the home directory and read only access to directories that i specify
[10:00] <raphael_> i'm here again
[10:00] <raphael_> amphi here one more time lol
[10:00] <Fleischlego> soundray: It's initrd giving errors.
[10:01] <Draconicus> A link from GAIM just tried to launch an older version of Firefox. o..O
[10:01] <Buxexa> soundray,  but it works as firefox plugin?
[10:01] <rend> what should i do about skype telling me /dev/dsp-1: Device or resource busy
[10:01] <amphi> raphael_: you rang? ;)
[10:01] <soundray> Buxexa, testing now.
[10:01] <Fleischlego> soundray: My devices are not created by udev but I don't know why.
[10:01] <_jason> Draconicus: change the settings in system > prefs > preferrred apps
[10:01] <Psi-Jack> rend: Get the seveas skype package with skype-dsp-hijacker which I helped fix up even better. :)
[10:01] <Psi-Jack> !skype
[10:01] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:01] <soundray> Fleischlego, what errors? Paste on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if there's a lot.
[10:01] <Psi-Jack> rend: Second link
[10:01] <jatos> is their any software I can use to try and get the original version of an edited file?
[10:02] <Fleischlego> soundray: Just ALERT! /dev/sda3 does not exist. Dropping into a shell, blah.
[10:02] <jatos> my auth.log appears destinctly edited!
[10:02] <soundray> Fleischlego, is that the breezy or dapper kernel, or both?
[10:02] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ah, and some framebuffer modules with version conflict stuff.
[10:02] <_jason> jatos: how so?
[10:02] <Fleischlego> Both kernels.
[10:02] <Psi-Jack> Can anyone help me with my installation problem?
[10:02] <raphael_> i using the netstat to find one ip
[10:02] <jatos> records removed
[10:02] <GTX> Guy's If Ive got vmware running in gui, is there anyway to switch the gui server off
[10:02] <GTX> when its not needed to reduce load
[10:02] <GTX> and then switch it back on
[10:02] <GTX> or not
[10:02] <raphael_> but the ip on my pc is just <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:03] <Fleischlego> the system is not booting at all. And I get always the same errors.
[10:03] <jatos> there are a lot of missing records from when I know someone went into my system
[10:03] <raphael_> i don't see incoming connections
[10:03] <JloR> Is it possible for me to get xserver-xorg 7.0 (xorg / X11R6 / whatever) on Ubuntu 5.10 ? I wanted to try out xgl..
[10:03] <Fleischlego> But me=idiot. I have no kernel booting without initrd at the moment. :/
[10:03] <rewt_> hey i figured out my volume icon problem :-D
[10:03] <_jason> jatos: well they get backed up, look at auth.log.0 and then the .gz ones that are in there too
[10:03] <FarrisG> Any dhcpd experts in here? I've had dhcpd v3 running on a debian box for over two years now. Without any configuration changes, suddenly this week it's taking 10 to 15 minutes for windows clients to properly get a lease/address. Linux clients are fine. I've tried rebooting the server, flushing the leases, changing the range, nothing helps. As far as the syslog shows, the leases are being assigned instantaneously, but the clients are hang
[10:03] <MoeZzz> kyo: any answer ?
[10:03] <_jason> jatos: I shouldn't say backed up, it's more like rotated
[10:03] <raphael_> amphi?
[10:04] <soundray> Fleischlego, give me a minute to test that plugin for Buxexa. In the meantime, see if you can unpack a kernel package from /var/cache/apt/archives and copy the initrd to /boot/ in case it's corrupted.
[10:04] <jatos> I looked in auth.log.o
[10:04] <MoeZzz> anyone can help me installing ubuntu ?
[10:04] <Fleischlego> soundray: Okay.
[10:04] <raphael_> MoeZzz what problem do you have?
[10:05] <naetrick> Why might I be getting "FATAL: error inserting module ....: Invalid module format"?
[10:05] <Jason> how can i format a drive in linux command line?
[10:05] <naetrick> When trying to modprobe a drive, of course
[10:05] <kyo> MoeZzz, sorry whats your question again?
[10:05] <naetrick> module*
[10:05] <Jason> ?
[10:06] <raphael_> MoeZzz?
[10:06] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone tell me how to remove a hardware device in ubuntu???
[10:06] <jatos> bits missing between 21:15 and 12:17 by the looks
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> Unable to install the selectect kernel. An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system.  Kernel Package: 'linux-386'   <-- I get this error when I setup an installation to multiple partitions, /boot, /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.. When I setup just a /boot and / it's worked. This has happened on TWO machines now, and I need to know what's wrong, and why it keeps doing this.
[10:06] <soundray> Buxexa, the plugin loaded okay. Do you have a site with a java applet that I can load for testing?
[10:06] <keherman> what is the APT wild card character to match multiple packages?
[10:07] <Psi-Jack> Ergh. s/selectect/selected/
[10:07] <rewt_> MoeZza, join me on #ubuninst
[10:07] <Buxexa> soundray, http://caixa.gov.br
[10:07] <Fleischlego> soundray: It seems I did a apt clean. :)
[10:07] <raphael_> Buxexa, what did you do on this website?
[10:07] <Fleischlego> it's kinda empty.
[10:08] <MoeZzz> kyo: i have installed ubuntu and when it finished it asked me to take the CD and the to Continue.. then the system rebooted while turning on my system didnt find any bootable devive, i set it to boot from HDD and still have the same problem
[10:08] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone tell me how to remove a hardware device?
[10:08] <Buxexa> raphael_, none, but I saved this for test java applet.
[10:08] <soundray> Fleischlego, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/ ?
[10:08] <MoeZzz> raphael : i have installed ubuntu and when it finished it asked me to take the CD and the to Continue.. then the system rebooted while turning on my system didnt find any bootable devive, i set it to boot from HDD and still have the same problem
[10:08] <raphael_> ok
[10:08] <raphael_> Buxexa, do you know how to find incoming ip?
[10:08] <Buxexa> raphael_, no..
[10:09] <graft> incoming ip?
[10:09] <bllx> twb you still here?
[10:09] <fletch33> afternoon all1 i was just tryingto get an apt-get update and i received a message that " could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied) unable to lock the directory " anyone know what i might have done to casue this. i need this to work. thanks
[10:09] <Buxexa> soundray,  did you test?!
[10:09] <soundray> Buxexa, doesn't work: displays puzzle pieces. Are these definitely java plugins (not flash)?
[10:09] <JloR> How can I easily upgrade from breezy (5.10) to dapper?
[10:09] <kyo> MoeZzz, : weird ... did you manually or automatically partition the drive during the installation?
[10:09] <hamdinp> merhaba iinizde trke bilen varm
[10:09] <graft> JloR: just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:09] <JloR> thank you
[10:09] <Buxexa> soundray,  dunno...
[10:09] <_jason> !dapper
[10:09] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. Be warned that it's not yet stable but you are encouraged to help out with testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.
[10:09] <naetrick> Why am I getting "FATAL: Error inserting <module>: Invalid module format"?
[10:10] <Buxexa> soundray,  did you know any site with java?
[10:10] <JloR> you know - I've been in here for a while, and asked a few questions.. you're the first to answer :) If you ever get near Denmark, I'll buy you a beer.
[10:10] <MoeZzz> kyo: yes i did
[10:10] <graft> I highly doubt that...
[10:10] <graft> how could i find you in denmark?
[10:10] <MoeZzz> manualy i set the primary partition and the swap one
[10:10] <JloR> hehe, you could ask - and it's not that big.
[10:10] <kyo> MoeZzz, : auto or manual?
[10:10] <graft> it's also cold
[10:10] <fletch33> anyone get a look at my last post here i am really confused as to why this would happen
[10:10] <keherman> how do i install all packages LIKE "foo-1 foo-2 foo-3" in one "foo-*" ???
[10:10] <JloR> THATs true.. :\
[10:11] <MoeZzz> manual
[10:11] <Buxexa> soundray,  I think I know one.. let-me try
[10:11] <_jason> keherman: yeah, I think that works
[10:11] <fletch33> my apt-get update is not working
[10:11] <soundray> Buxexa, I found an old plugin that I wrote myself. It crashes the browser :)
[10:11] <keherman> _jason, it does not
[10:12] <bllx> anyone know how to remove a ghost partition from /media ? it still shows on a disk I formatted. I sudo rm -rf it but it returns. Can't see it mentioned in /etc/fstab...
[10:12] <Creeture> fletch33: looks like permissions. You doing it as root?
[10:12] <_jason> keherman: I just tried it
[10:12] <fletch33> nope
[10:12] <fletch33> Creeture, sorrry no
[10:12] <Creeture> fletch33: do it as root. You have no choice in the matter.
[10:12] <soundray> bllx, just ignore it.
[10:12] <_jason> keherman: 'sudo apt-get -s install gtk*' gave me a long list of selections
[10:12] <bllx> bah
[10:12] <bllx> is that really the answer?
[10:13] <keherman> _jason, but it does not install them!
[10:13] <bllx> i managed to 'delete 'the yaboot stuff that was in it
[10:13] <keherman> _jason, it gives you suggestions
[10:13] <soundray> Fleischlego, which dapper kernel did you install?
[10:13] <_jason> keherman: I don't think so, let me find something i can try without messing up my box
[10:13] <keherman> r-cran-*
[10:13] <Buxexa> soundray,  http://webchat.brasnet.org/frame.php?nick=Zanza&canal=ajuda
[10:14] <Buxexa> try it..
[10:14] <fletch33> Creeture, ok i did it as sudo and check this out http://pastebin.com/554892
[10:14] <_jason> keherman: that's a lot of stuff
[10:14] <soundray> Buxexa, any java plugin crashes firefox.
[10:14] <captain_legless> okay creeture i tried to install the sk98lin driver you told me about, but the install.sh comes back with errors like Check compiler not found, Check make not found, and Check kernel gcc version (3.4.5) (Kernel:3.4.5 != gcc:729:)
[10:14] <_jason> keherman: 0 upgraded, 76 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:14] <Buxexa> soundray,  omg, then this plugin isnt working?
[10:15] <soundray> Buxexa, your best bet is to set up a 32-bit chroot.
[10:15] <keherman> _jason, how did you do it?
[10:15] <_jason> keherman: how did you write the command?
[10:15] <chx> anyone have some ideas where a python something called xmltramp could be found?
[10:15] <_jason> keherman: sudo apt-get -s install r-cran-*, you take off the '-s' since that means simulate
[10:15] <keherman> _jason, aptitude install r-cran-* dfoes not work
[10:15] <Creeture> captain_legless: Which version of Ubuntu are you running? Breezy with the 2.6.12-10-686 kernel has it already.
[10:15] <_jason> keherman: use apt-get, seems to work there
[10:16] <Buxexa> Anyone knows how to install java plugin and flash plugin for AMD64?
[10:16] <soundray> Buxexa, in a 32-bit chroot.
[10:16] <Creeture> fletch33: the first line means that the download failed. everything after that is caused by the first.
[10:16] <keherman> _jason, i want to use aptitude!
[10:16] <tatters> I have 2 network devices listed ra0 and lo  when I want to setup iptables which device do I use ,,,?
[10:16] <fletch33> Creeture,  yeah it made it thru 99% of it and then i got that
[10:16] <Buxexa> soundray,  it's my first time in Linux, then I dont know what is it...
[10:16] <captain_legless> i'm running 5.10, that has the kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[10:16] <soundray> !tell Buxexa about chroot
[10:17] <_jason> keherman: what's the difference!, you probably need to read man aptitude to see how it handles it then
[10:17] <Creeture> fletch33: Maybe see if you can wget it. Try the apt-get update again.
[10:17] <fletch33> Creeture, i am trying to install a tar for the first time not from synaptic and i was told to update my apt-get but it is not working
[10:17] <fletch33> Creeture, k
[10:17] <ulirudde> Hello all, Does anyone know what a .dsk file is?
[10:18] <Psi-Jack> Unable to install the selected kernel. An error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system.  Kernel Package: 'linux-386'   <-- I get this error when I setup an installation to multiple partitions, /boot, /, /usr, /var, /home, etc.. When I setup just a /boot and / it's worked. This has happened on TWO machines now, and I need to know what's wrong, and why it keeps doing this. I would really like some help
[10:18] <soundray> Fleischlego, I'm off, hope you can fix it. Viel Glueck...
[10:18] <Fleischlego> soundray: 2.6.15-15-k7
[10:18] <Fleischlego> Uh.
[10:18] <soundray> Fleischlego, okay...
[10:18] <Fleischlego> laters.
[10:18] <fletch33> Creeture, same prob
[10:18] <Creeture> ulirudde: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=dsk
[10:18] <Creeture> fletch33: can you wget the file?
[10:18] <Fleischlego> soundray: if I could fix it I would not sit in this chan. :)
[10:19] <mkyb14> i'm trying to install the updated gdesklets and it says in the directions that after you do ./configure to run make install... but this does nothing?
[10:19] <fletch33> Creeture, not sure what that is sorry
[10:19] <naetrick> I get this error in dmesg when trying to modprobe a module in my kernel, which is unsuccessful: "go7007_usb: version magic '2.6.15-ck4 SMP preempt 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-ck4 SMP 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'
[10:19] <Creeture> fletch33: you type wget http://.... (the filename in line 1 of your pastebin)
[10:19] <XXX> Sorry is a bit silly my question but why I can't use my nick...anymore
[10:19] <naetrick> Does that mean the drive doesn't support kernels with preempt?
[10:19] <mike-e> hi what is the gnome application that lets you bind keys to certain commands?
[10:19] <Creeture> mike-e: it's part of metacity, the window manager.
[10:19] <twb> ...and another thing...
[10:20] <tatters> I have 2 network devices listed ra0 and lo  when I want to setup firewall which device do I use ,,,?  ra0
[10:20] <Creeture> mike-e: System / Preferences / Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:20] <twb> rhythmbox claims "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins" for an mp3.  That seems wrong for a fresh ubuntu install.
[10:20] <soundray> Fleischlego, there are probably more competent people around then me. But I'll give it another go...
[10:20] <mike-e> Creeture the last time i got to the place i hat to run somthing that started with a g
[10:21] <soundray> Fleischlego, were you able to replace your initrd?
[10:21] <twb> tatters: lo is the loopback device, which only you can see.
[10:21] <mkyb14> how do you install files that you are told to with make install?  .. i tried make install-sh / sudo make install / sudo make install-sh    etc
[10:21] <Buxexa> soundray,  the chroot is only for install or I need it open to run any i386 file?
[10:21] <twb> tatters: therefore ra0 is a better guess.
[10:21] <mark__> hey, could someone give me some advice? everytime I open fireglcontrol panel and set up two monitors, it says you need to restart X. and when I do. the two monitors aren't being used. how can I fix this?
[10:21] <Creeture> mike-e: it's in the gnome-conf stuff somewhere too. Hang on...
[10:21] <instabin> how do i update azureus to version <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:21] <mike-e> i just had to reinstall so i need to set these keys back
[10:21] <mike-e> =/
[10:21] <asdfdf> Hi. I've got a simple question. I just bought a HD based digital audio player (like an iPod, but to be specific, an iAudio X5). Transfering music to it is no problem. However, is unmounting the drive enough to safely disconnect the device? Or is there something else I must do, similar to when I disconnect a USB device in Windows via that tray icon, to safely disconnect it?
[10:21] <twb> mark__: can't you just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:21] <anto9us> is there a gnome applet that shows keyboard led status?
[10:22] <tatters> k twb thnx
[10:22] <soundray> Buxexa, it's for running specific applications that you can't get to work in amd64, ie. flash, firefox-java and Adobe Reader.
[10:22] <captain_legless> creeture how can i get my hands on ttp://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=dsk
 fletch33: can you wget the file?
[10:22] <captain_legless> * XXX has joined #ubuntu
 soundray: if I could fix it I would not sit in this chan. :)
 i'm trying to install the updated gdesklets and it says in the directions that after you do ./configure to run make install... but this does nothing?
 Creeture, not sure what that is sorry
[10:22] <naetrick> anto9us: That's a good idea for an app... I should make one :)
[10:22] <captain_legless> * thomas has joined #ubuntu
[10:22] <captain_legless> *
[10:22] <Xappe> mark__: I used fglrxconfig for my dual head setup without any problems...
[10:22] <captain_legless> oops
[10:22] <fletch33> Creeture,  ok i did the wget and got this http://pastebin.com/554909 and then tried again and it still didnt work
[10:22] <twb> asdfdf: make sure it's unmounted, then "eject /dev/sda" if it still complains.
[10:22] <mike-e> asdfdf : just pull it off the cable
[10:22] <soundray> Buxexa, all other programs you run as usual.
[10:22] <anto9us> naetrick, can you have it ready in the next hour or so?
[10:22] <mark__> Xappe, it just wont work in dual monitors after i set it to
[10:22] <anto9us> :)
[10:22] <mark__> even after restarting Xserver
[10:22] <asdfdf> thanks. just wanted to make sure that unmounting it was enough.
[10:22] <Creeture> fletch33: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:23] <twb> asdfdf: usually it will not care even if it's still mounted.
[10:23] <naetrick> anto9us: I doubt it... I'm working on something else right now. Can't you just look at your keyboard for now?
[10:23] <Xappe> mark__: have you tried fglrxconfig (not the firegl gui)?
[10:23] <mark__> not sure
[10:23] <mark__> hold on
[10:23] <rewt_> Is there any way to make all windows in Breezy semi transparent?
[10:23] <Buxexa> soundray,  but I need to open this program all time that I want to use flash, firefox java, etc? or only to install these programs?
[10:23] <soundray> Buxexa, but setting up a chroot is not a good beginner's exercise. You could install i386 instead, it runs just as well on Athlon 64's
[10:23] <mike-e> Creeture : find it?
[10:23] <keherman> # aptitude install 'r-cran-~n' <-- '~n' is the wildcard for aptitude
[10:23] <fletch33> captain_legless, Creeture , i did the wget and it didnt help
[10:23] <Buxexa> mmmm
[10:23] <anto9us> naetrick, yes, but the trouble is, it's a wireless one without any leds on it
[10:23] <mkyb14> captain_legless, why did you repaste my question?
[10:23] <mike-e> Creeture : it's something like gconf or something
[10:23] <Xappe> mark__: and make a backup of your original /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <mark__> okay Xappe
[10:23] <mark__> thanks
[10:24] <_jason> keherman: ah I see, seems dumb to me to introduce new schemes, but ok
[10:24] <Xappe> mark__: /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is
[10:24] <keherman> _jason, yeah * would be nicer
[10:24] <Creeture> mike-e: gconf-editor
[10:24] <speen> Hi there! I was wondering how one can disable devices in Ubuntu?
[10:24] <soundray> Fleischlego, still there?
[10:24] <Fleischlego> Zeah.
[10:24] <Fleischlego> Yeah.
[10:24] <twb> Can I pin Debian/experimental packages in a Ubuntu install?
[10:24] <speen> 22:24 [ graft           ]  [ nullman        ]  [ zubuntu        ]
[10:24] <soundray> Fleischlego, no progress?
[10:25] <Creeture> mike-e: Look under the apps/metacity/global_keybindings tree
[10:25] <Fleischlego> i just found out that initrd are created local
[10:25] <naetrick> anto9us: Ahh, ok. Tell ya what. PM naetrick_ with your email, and when I get it done, I'll send you a copy :)
[10:25] <fletch33> Creeture,  i think there is aproblem in /var/lib/apt/lists/archive
[10:25] <Fleischlego> Or more, I remembered it.
[10:25] <soundray> Fleischlego, I see, that wasn't a good hint then.
[10:25] <Creeture> fletch33: did the wget succeed?
[10:26] <fletch33> yes i posted it for ya here http://pastebin.com/554909
[10:26] <mkyb14> how do you install files that are install-sh
[10:26] <anto9us> naetrick, thanks, I think I'm going to install gkrellm though :)
[10:26] <soundray> Fleischlego, did you put that dapper kernel into a running breezy system?
[10:26] <twb> What's that GNOME browser that isn't galeon?
[10:26] <twb> epiphany?
[10:26] <fletch33> Creeture,  sorry i forgot to ad ur name did u see my last post
[10:26] <naetrick> anto9us: Ahh, ok, didn't know that had a plugin for that. Glad you found what you needed
[10:26] <Fleischlego> soundray: Yes, call me a dork. :/
[10:27] <speen> Does anyone know how I can disable my usb mouse in ubuntu?
[10:27] <soundray> Fleischlego, I'm fully focussed on solving your problem, not assigning blame :)
[10:27] <twb> speen: yes, rmmod usb-uhci or something like that.
[10:27] <Creeture> fletch33: I had to scroll back, but I see it now.
[10:27] <Fleischlego> soundray: Well, someone told me that he did and it worked.
[10:27] <soundray> Fleischlego, have you got a single-partition setup, or is your /home separate?
[10:28] <bobbyd> hi
[10:28] <speen> twb: ok thank you.
[10:28] <Fleischlego> soundray: System is on one partition, other stuff is data-store.
[10:28] <soundray> Fleischlego, I am guilty of dishing out that kind of advice... It worked for me once.
[10:28] <bobbyd> my spell checkere is broken in tunderbird and OO.o, what should I do? can I just reinstall the spell checker?
[10:28] <Fleischlego> soundray: LOL! :)
[10:28] <soundray> Fleischlego, I was going to suggest you go all the way to dapper and upgrade the whole system.
[10:28] <twb> speen: or you could just unplug it.
[10:28] <Tetrasoft> Hi everyone!!! :-)
[10:28] <Fleischlego> soundray: Tried that.
[10:28] <malcore> ciao
[10:29] <soundray> Fleischlego, still no go?
[10:29] <Fleischlego> soundray: Downloads succeded. But I have still the /dev/null problem.
[10:29] <Fleischlego> soundray: /dev/null is not writable, that kills the package installing.
[10:29] <twb> bobbyd: please describe clearly the undesireable symptoms you are experiencing.
[10:29] <soundray> Fleischlego, flatten the root partition and do a fresh install then :(
[10:30] <soundray> Fleischlego, you could just as well reinstall breezy in that case.
[10:30] <Fleischlego> soundray: huah
[10:30] <bobbyd> twb, the spell checked doesn't find and misspelled words even when I intentioally misspell them to test it
[10:30] <Jerk> Xappe, what was that command again?
[10:30] <Fleischlego> soundray: No good news.
[10:30] <bobbyd> twb, it just says there are no misspelled words
[10:30] <soundray> Fleischlego, have you got a reasonably fast way of backing up?
[10:30] <twb> bobbyd: that sounds to me like spell checking is not enabled.
[10:30] <twb> bobbyd: do you know what spell checker you are using?
[10:30] <Fleischlego> well...
[10:30] <Fleischlego> Yeah, the other partitions.
[10:30] <rewt_> Any way to make all windows semi-transparent in breezy?
[10:31] <twb> rewt_: yes, see freedesktop.org's stuff about xcomposite and xdamage.
[10:31] <twb> rewt_: you may have to recompile X.
[10:31] <Fleischlego> I will copy the root partition to a data partition then. :/
[10:31] <soundray> Fleischlego, you don't seem inclined...
[10:31] <bobbyd> twb, ispell aspell and gtkspell are installed
[10:32] <twb> bobbyd: OK, good.  What applications are you trying to spellcheck in?
[10:32] <Mark____> whats the name of the xorg config file?
[10:32] <twb> Mark____: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <Mark____> thanks
[10:32] <Mark____> :)
[10:32] <bobbyd> twb, tunderbird and openoofice.org , like I said :)
[10:32] <twb> Mark____: That is one of many, but I suspect it is the one you want :-)
[10:32] <twb> bobbyd: sorry, I'm lazy.
[10:33] <rewt_> i dont see anything about xcomposite or xdamage in freedesktop.org
[10:33] <twb> bobbyd: do you know what dictionaries are installed?
[10:33] <soundray> Fleischlego, if you think that something is wrong with your devices...
[10:33] <bobbyd> twb, no, how do I find out
[10:33] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use SharpMusique?
[10:33] <soundray> Fleischlego, have you tried to remake them?
[10:33] <rewt_> i found xcomposite
[10:33] <Fleischlego> well, I thought it's just a ... kernel or initrd problem.
[10:33] <rewt_> now looking for damage
[10:33] <twb> bobbyd: um...
[10:34] <twb> bobbyd: I think it's called something like ienglish.
[10:34] <Mordof> question: has anyone here successfully gotten xgl working?
[10:34] <soundray> Fleischlego, do you know about mknod?
[10:34] <Fleischlego> soundray: How remaking?
[10:34] <twb> Yeah, ienglish and ibritish.
[10:34] <tatters> does anyone know what I need to add to repos to get hostsenty?
[10:34] <Fleischlego> soundray: Oh, well... No. :/
[10:35] <tatters> I got portsentry but hostsentry doesnt show up in repos
[10:35] <mike-e> Creeture : gconf-editor
[10:35] <soundray> Fleischlego, 'sudo mknod /mnt/dev/null c 1 3' from the live CD for example.
[10:35] <twb> Heh, I thought Ubuntu was packaged with XP fonts for a moment, until I realized OO.org had got them from my ~/.fonts on the fileserver :-)
[10:35] <Cylindric> Can someone help with an ATI 9800 driver install?  I've followed various instructions I've found, but still seem to be stuck in MESA mode :(  I'm not sure what info to give, I've not seen any error.  (xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8662,  dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8663, messages: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8664)
[10:35] <speen> twb: sorry to bother you again. You see my problem is that my recid: sorry, I'm lazy.
[10:35] <speen> 22:32 -!- FL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit ["Leaving"]
[10:35] <speen> 22:33 < rewt_> i dont see anything about xcomposite or xdamage in freedesktop.org
[10:35] <speen> bbah
[10:36] <twb> Cylindric: what does "lspci | grep VGA" return?
[10:36] <soundray> Fleischlego, or look at /sbin/MAKEDEV -- perhaps you can remake all devices with a customized version of that script.
[10:36] <rewt_> speen?
[10:36] <Cylindric> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a4e
[10:36] <Fleischlego> soundray: Well, "/dev: file exists" :)
[10:37] <speen> I'll try again, My problem is that an other wireless device has installed itself on my system, Its the device of someone living in the apartmant next to me
[10:37] <twb> Cylindric: ew.
[10:37] <rewt_> Cylindric..what happened?
[10:37] <speen> While I use a cord mouse
[10:37] <twb> Cylindric: I was hoping for something like "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]  (rev 01)"
[10:37] <speen> So now his signal is beeing picked up by my reciver that I use for my wireless keyboard
[10:37] <Fleischlego>  /dev => /dev/null
[10:38] <speen> and My mouse is going awall
[10:38] <Cylindric> Me too :D  Not sure what happened tbh.  I've tried SUSE and Fedora recently, and they both reported it correctly
[10:38] <twb> speen: I think that is a pre-linux problem.
[10:38] <tatters> sleen u ever considered lead lining apartment?
[10:38] <twb> Cylindric: Oh!
[10:38] <Psi-Jack> linux-restricted-modules has an MD5Sum mismatch, ON THE CD. How the heck do I get around such an error? ;/
[10:38] <speen> tatters:  =P
[10:38] <Cylindric> I managed to get SUSE to work with 3D too, although not FC4
[10:38] <twb> Cylindric: lemme get you to try something...
[10:38] <soundray> Fleischlego, make sure you make the device on the mounted root of your wrecked installation. If it's mounted on /mnt, that's /mnt/dev/null . Delete it first if necessary.
[10:39] <twb> Cylindric: as root, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in your favourite editor (e.g. nano)
[10:39] <naetrick> Hey guys, when trying to modprobe something, I get an "Invalid module format"
[10:39] <naetrick> And dmesg gives me: "go7007_usb: version magic '2.6.15-ck4 SMP preempt 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-ck4 SMP 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'
[10:39] <speen> I can see the device I want to disable in hal-device-manager, but it dosnt allow me to disable it
[10:39] <naetrick> Notice no "preempt" in the "should be" string. What does this mean... how should I fix it?
[10:39] <Cylindric> I'm in, twb
[10:39] <twb> Cylindric: look for 'Device "ati"'
[10:39] <Psi-Jack> Can /anyone/ please help?
[10:39] <twb> Cylindric: or 'Device "vesa"'
[10:40] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ok, tried now. Same problem. It's not writeable.
[10:40] <twb> Cylindric: and change it to 'Device "radeon"'
[10:40] <soundray> Fleischlego, sudo ?
[10:40] <Fleischlego> Well, rootshell.
[10:40] <twb> Fleischlego: what are the permissions from within and without the chroot?
[10:40] <anto9us> naetrick, before you start that project you should know there was a gnome2 applet in the repos all the time, it's called lock-keys-applet :)
[10:40] <Cylindric> twb, I have 'Section "Device"' with a line 'Driver "fglrx"',
[10:40] <twb> Fleischlego: ...of that device file.
[10:41] <twb> Cylindric: Oh, you are trying to use the non-free drivers.
[10:41] <twb> Cylindric: is it working?
[10:41] <kyo> ok I downloaded some theme package for gnome ... how do I install it?
[10:41] <Fleischlego> twb: crw-r--r--
[10:41] <Cylindric> twb I tried the ATI ones first, and they're not .  Should I be using others?
[10:41] <naetrick> anto9us: Thanks :). I'll probably code one for myself anyway, because that's what I like to do :)
[10:41] <_jason> kyo: system > prefs > themes, drag and drop the file into the window
[10:41] <twb> Cylindric: the free driver "radeon" should give you 2d and probably 3d acceleration.
[10:42] <twb> Cylindric: the free driver "ati" is much older than "radeon".
[10:42] <Cylindric> twb. do I need to download anything extra, or just change Driver to "radeon"?
[10:42] <twb> Cylindric: change it, save file, restart X server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[10:43] <twb> Cylindric: you can test for 3d accel by running glxinfo|head and looking for "direct rendering: yes"
[10:43] <Cylindric> I'll give it a go.  brb
[10:43] <percent20> hat is the program that is installed that allows you to righclick on an ISO image and do write to disk? in gnome.
[10:43] <bobbyd> twb, how can i reinstall the default dictionary for the spell checker?
[10:43] <Fleischlego> soundray: You really think the /dev/null thing is such a big problem that it is easier to complete reinstall?
[10:43] <guerby> hi, I'm looking for a page explaining how to upgrade from breezy to dapper (experimental machine), any URL?
[10:44] <shinydan> evening all
[10:44] <twb> guerby: just change the sources.list
[10:44] <shinydan> um, help?
[10:44] <kyo> I have pics in my home folder. How would I mass move the jpgs into say hoome/pictures in bash?
[10:44] <twb> shinydan: not until you tell us what to help with!
[10:44] <shinydan> that's fair enough...8)
[10:44] <twb> kyo: mv *.jpg somewhere/else/
[10:44] <soundray> Fleischlego, no. I think that it's a symptom of more serious trouble that will be difficult to fix, especially if you don't know why it happened.
[10:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell kyo about cli
[10:44] <shinydan> installed Breezey recently.  Just tried to use my CD-Rom, and it won't mount.
[10:44] <shinydan> -e
[10:45] <rewt_> think that radeon thing will work for mine?
[10:45] <shinydan> getting "Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[10:45] <shinydan> mount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist
[10:45] <shinydan> Error: could not execute pmount
[10:45] <shinydan> "
[10:45] <shinydan> apologies for spam
[10:45] <guerby> twb, you mean replacing all "breezy" by "dapper"?
[10:45] <soundray> Fleischlego, are you on a reasonably fast connection?
[10:45] <_jason> shinydan: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org next time please
[10:45] <rewt_> RADEON XPRESS 200M
[10:45] <twb> guerby: pretty much.
[10:45] <shinydan> ok, will do.
[10:45] <rewt_> AMDTurion 64
[10:45] <Fleischlego> soundray: 130kb/s downstream.
[10:45] <kyo> heh
[10:45] <Artan1s> I isntalled ubuntu, and logged in.  What do I type to gert the GUI to load?
[10:45] <guerby> twd, ok let's go...
[10:46] <_jason> Artan1s: did you do a server install?
[10:46] <Artan1s> _jason I dont think so
[10:46] <twb> guerby: it might be safer to *copy* the entries in sources.list and replace breezy with dapper in the copies, so you still have the old entries.
[10:46] <_jason> Artan1s: what does apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep Installed, return?
[10:46] <twb> Artan1s: did you type "server" at the "boot:" prompt?
[10:46] <soundray> Fleischlego, if you leave it overnight to download packages, the net time investment of reinstalling is probably an hour or so.
[10:46] <guerby> twb, I copied sources.list to sources.list.breezy
[10:46] <Psi-Jack> linux-restricted-modules has an MD5Sum mismatch, ON THE CD. How the heck do I get around such an error? ;/
[10:46] <Artan1s> _jason:let me run up and see real fast
[10:47] <Artan1s> twb: no
[10:47] <EmPiReBiT> algun latino
[10:47] <soundray> Fleischlego, I could be wrong, of course.
[10:47] <twb> Psi-Jack: the CD is scratched.
[10:47] <twb> Psi-Jack: or the CD drive is damaged.
[10:47] <Psi-Jack> twb: It works to install, when I don't have a complex partition arrangement.
[10:47] <twb> Psi-Jack: or the CPU is damaged.
[10:47] <Fleischlego> soundray: Hell, yeah, propably you are right.
[10:48] <shinydan> there, posted to paste now.
[10:48] <kyo> Where do I go to unable unnecessary services?
[10:48] <soundray> Fleischlego, but I really want to go now. If you still want to fix it, I think twb might be your man.
[10:48] <twb> Why can't my oo.org find any fonts?
[10:48] <Psi-Jack> twb: I used that same CD to install on this system I'm using now. But, I had the same error, until I reparitioned to only use /boot and /
[10:48] <twb> I should point out that it is now 9am here.
[10:48] <graft> why would you want to enable unnecessary services?
[10:48] <Fleischlego> soundray: Just one more question... Theoretically I could backup dirs like /etc, /usr, /home etc. and copy them back later, right?
[10:48] <graft> they're unnecessary!
[10:48] <soundray> Fleischlego, you could, but it only makes sense if you stick with breezy.
[10:49] <Fleischlego> soundray: there's quite a lot of configuration work on this system. This is why I ask. :)
[10:49] <tatters> does anyone know what I need to add to repos to get hostsentry?
[10:49] <twb> Fleischlego: it's better to just backup /etc, /var and /home.
[10:49] <Fleischlego> soundray: Well, copy it back, then upgrade to dapper, if you want it that way. :)
[10:49] <graft> Fleischlego: backing up /usr is almost certainly unnecessary
[10:49] <twb> Fleischlego: correctly designed ubuntu/debian packages will not put config data anywhere else.
[10:49] <whiter> how do i remove the ftp's i visited with nautilis
[10:49] <whiter> from the side bar
[10:49] <whiter> erm the left of the screen it shows up under the folders
[10:49] <twb> whiter: drag them away?
[10:50] <`_Zielony> I have a question, how can I check what version of KDe is installed ?
[10:50] <graft> `_Zielony: dpkg -l | grep kdebase
[10:50] <`_Zielony> thx
[10:50] <twb> `_Zielony: dpkg -l kde...
[10:50] <whiter> twb, cant
[10:50] <twb> Fred: beat me.
[10:50] <twb> Uh, graft: beat me.
[10:50] <soundray> Fleischlego, saving etc is a good idea if you put a lot of work into it.  Even if you end up using it as a reference.
[10:50] <IdleOne> how do I use nautilus to burn iso's and what is nautilus? :)
[10:50] <soundray> Fleischlego, I did that when I upgraded from Debian to Warty.
[10:51] <twb> IdleOne: Ctrl+L, burn:/// RET
[10:51] <Mordof> bleh, nvidia's website is down
[10:51] <whiter> its like explorer idleone
[10:51] <shinydan> It looks as though I've managed to confuse my system into ignoring my CD-Rom, as on the pastebin site. Any ideas?
[10:51] <Mordof> is there anotehr way to get the current nvidia drivers?
[10:51] <KatteKra1> Can someone here tell me how to tell ubuntu to open downloaded MSword files with OOo ?
[10:51] <anto9us> IdleOne, right click the iso and select burn
[10:51] <whiter> shinydan can you pastebin "mount"
[10:51] <twb> KatteKra1: right-click on a .doc file, choose properties, third tab is an associate with program dialog.
[10:51] <jebuscian> hey
[10:51] <adam__> holy cow...newb here. Didnt relaize there was a whole IRZC channel for ubuntu users
[10:52] <Mordof> adam__, yup ;)
[10:52] <KatteKra1> twb: thanks - I'll give that a go :)
[10:52] <ompaul> IdleOne, right click on an iso image and select write to disk, it is a program similar in some ways to a file manager but just an order or 20 more powerful :-)-
[10:52] <soundray> Fleischlego, okay?
[10:52] <_jason> adam__: there are several actually
[10:52] <Artan1s> _jason: Installed: 0.80
[10:52] <adam__> question...how many of you have both kde and gnome on your computer and which do you prefer?
[10:52] <Artan1s> twb: was I supposed to?
[10:52] <_jason> Artan1s: hrmm indeed, what does 'startx' do
[10:52] <Fleischlego> soundray: Ok. /var /etc /home then. :)
[10:52] <GigaClon> it starts X
[10:52] <IdleOne> ompaul:  anto9us   and everybody else thanks
[10:52] <Artan1s> _jason: one second
[10:52] <shinydan> whiter: done
[10:53] <tatters> is there a way to find what package is in which repos?
[10:53] <Fleischlego> soundray: reinstall. copy it back, dist-upgrade
[10:53] <GigaClon> adam__, I have both and I prefer GNOME
[10:53] <Mordof> adam__, i have both, i prefer gnome (im running ubuntu distro.. well kde crashed on me so i figured id leave it alone)
[10:53] <jebuscian> !seen ompaul
[10:53] <ubotu> ompaul is currently on #ubuntu-offtopic (5h 33m 5s) #ubuntu-ie (5h 33m 5s) #ubuntu (5h 33m 5s)
[10:53] <soundray> Fleischlego, what were you trying to fix by upgrading the kernel?
[10:53] <anto9us> hi adam__, yes, there are several channels full of ubuntu users, type /msg chanserv list *ubuntu*
[10:53] <Chrisx1> !update
[10:53] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Chrisx1
[10:53] <Chrisx1> !breezy
[10:53] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:54] <Artan1s> _jason: it said it couldnt compile keymap  and gave me a list of warnings and gave me the command prompt again
[10:54] <Fleischlego> soundray: Some weird version conflict module problem
[10:54] <adam__> cool thanks
[10:54] <runaros> I need install help for Ubuntu Linux 5.10, and hope this is the right forum to ask in. My problem is a bit weird: During installation, the computer just freeze when trying to install the Grub boot loader. Has anyone experienced such problems before?
[10:54] <IdleOne> ompaul:  save in folder?
[10:54] <_jason> Artan1s: you are using breezy badger?
[10:54] <KatteKra1> twb: hmmm it seems that it was already set to use OOo - I think my problem might be with Firefox.
[10:54] <ompaul> IdleOne, why - you want to burn it do you not?
[10:55] <Artan1s> _jason: yes
[10:55] <Fleischlego> soundray: My soundcards were not detected anymore and the snd-* modules were not loadable.
[10:55] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yes but it defaults to Home
[10:55] <naetrick> Hey guys, when trying to modprobe something, I get an "Invalid module format"
[10:55] <naetrick> And dmesg gives me: "go7007_usb: version magic '2.6.15-ck4 SMP preempt 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4' should be '2.6.15-ck4 SMP 386 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4'
[10:55] <naetrick> Notice no "preempt" in the "should be" string. What does this mean... how should I fix it?
[10:55] <graft> runaros: odds are your CD download was corrupted