[09:35] <psivaa> hello, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ still has yesterday's images and 20130117 images are not under the 'current'tab. Is there any known reasons?
[09:37] <Laney> psivaa: They sure look like today's images to me
[09:37] <Laney> what's the current tab?
[09:38] <psivaa> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:38] <Laney> raring-desktop-i386.iso              17-Jan-2013 08:52
[09:40] <psivaa> ha all of a sudden, thanks anyway
[09:43] <cjwatson> You seem to regularly check at just about the time when new builds are typically syncing
[09:43] <cjwatson> I suspect you'd save yourself some heartache if you just checked a bit later :)
[09:49] <psivaa> ok, ill remember that. Is there a specific time daily when i could be sure that the images would be there for use? from the right location?
[09:51] <cjwatson> Not really, just a bit later than what you've been trying
[09:52] <infinity> psivaa: Hard to guarantee a specific time when build lengths vary.
[09:52] <infinity> psivaa: Unless you want us to build them a few hours earlier and artificially delay publishing them. :P
[09:58] <psivaa> infinity: i agree that the time varies and for the same reason i can't sit and wait for ever. But ill wait some more time from now :)
[09:59] <infinity> psivaa: Sadly, there's no time to build/publish all images that would be ideal for everyone.  If we could work out such magic, we would. :)
[10:01] <psivaa> infinity: i understand
[11:16] <smartboyhw> Any release team members here???
[11:22] <cjwatson> better to ask what you want ...
[11:22] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, sorry for not asking:P
[11:23] <smartboyhw> If you guys saw the email on the ubuntu-release mailing list, I found that there isn't any x86 live images for Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2
[11:23] <cjwatson> I think I just fixed that
[11:24] <smartboyhw> cjohnston, when do you mean "just"? (since I just didn't see a new build having it)
[11:24] <smartboyhw> Sorry wrong ping
[11:24]  * smartboyhw hates tab failure
[11:25] <cjwatson> just now
[11:25] <cjwatson> like a few minutes ago
[11:26] <cjwatson> I didn't kick off any new builds - cron can do that
[11:26] <smartboyhw> Oh:D
[11:26] <smartboyhw> Thanks cjwatson :D
[11:26] <cjwatson> you should get one later today
[11:29] <smartboyhw> Thanks
[14:09] <mdeslaur> ScottK: any idea why bind9 is stuck in raring-proposed?
[14:15] <ScottK> mdeslaur: libnss-lwres would become uninstallable.
[14:16] <ScottK> (apparently)
[14:19] <mdeslaur> ScottK: ah, are you going to upload a rebuild?
[14:19] <ScottK> Let me look into it.
[14:19] <ScottK> I'd forgotten it didn't migrate.
[14:19] <mdeslaur> ScottK: thanks
[14:35] <ScottK> mdeslaur: Done.
[14:35] <mdeslaur> ScottK: thanks!
[14:35] <ScottK> Thanks for reminding me.
[17:31] <plars> infinity, balloons: we are still planning to start the release candidate/qa process for 12.04.2 next week correct?
[17:35] <Riddell> anyone able to review qaccessibilityclient in New?  it's needed for new KDE due today
[17:42] <infinity> plars: Ish.  Though we'll have two extra weeks to play with there, so I suspect a few more fixes may slip in.
[18:02] <bjf> infinity, the kernel in -proposed/-updates today is the 12.04.2 kernel
[18:03] <infinity> bjf: That was my hope, yes.
[18:03] <bjf> infinity, we are going to skip the next kernel SRU cadence cycle
[18:07] <infinity> bjf: Kay, that should let things settle nicely.
[18:07] <infinity> bjf: Though, with the .2 release delay, you may be skipping two cycles.
[18:07] <infinity> bjf: Or, I guess, once we stop building against -proposed, we can let a new kernel into -proposed and just make sure not to promote it.
[18:09] <bjf> infinity, i think my next kernels my sit in my ppa for a bit
[18:09] <bjf> infinity, but we can work with whatever comes
[18:10] <infinity> bjf: *nod*... We'll figure it out.
[18:10] <infinity> bjf: Given that I do 99% of the kernel SRU processing, you know who to talk to when we need to coordinate this. :)
[18:11] <bjf> infinity, yup
[18:11] <infinity> bjf: Oh hey, and everything got marked for promotion earlier today.  Shiny.
[18:12] <infinity> Well, everything except lowlatency.  Those slackers.
[18:12] <infinity> apw: Are your studio minions doing some smoketesting on lowlatency?
[18:13] <apw> infinity, i have not heard specifics, will ask
[18:14] <infinity> apw: Kay.  Honestly, I just want 'em to boot them and make sure their hardware doesn't set on fire, since they should otherwise be able to piggyback on master's verification testing.
[18:15] <apw> i concur indeed, and if i was at home i would do it myself nwo
[18:15] <ogra_> go home then, quick !
[18:15] <infinity> Hah.
[18:16]  * apw will go the pub, that is home, right?
[18:16] <infinity> Sounds like a good home to me.
[18:16]  * ogra_ doubts thats a good place to test low latency
[18:17]  * infinity sets about releasing all the other kernels.
[18:20] <infinity> Oh, I guess I should verify all the meta and dkms bits first.
[18:21] <bjf> infinity, maybe we should extend shank-bot that when it's run by you it does all the release stuff for the various packages
[18:24] <infinity> Bah.  The changelog for linux-meta-lowlatency was broken.
[18:24] <infinity> Oh well, not releasing that one right now anyway.
[18:25] <infinity> apw: Is linux-meta-lowlatency in git somewhere, or can I just upload to fix your changelog syntax oops?
[18:28] <rtg> infinity, I'd say just upload with a fix and apw can figure it out after the fact.
[18:28] <infinity> rtg: Fair enough.
[18:29] <rtg> drop him a note perhaps
[18:38] <infinity> cjwatson: Can I get a quickie review/accept of that linux-meta-lowlatency?
[18:40] <scott-work> oooooh :-D
[19:07] <infinity> bdmurray: *poke*
[19:09] <bdmurray> infinity: hmm what?
[19:09] <infinity> bdmurray: I'm trying to be a good citizen and not self-accept my own SRUs.   :P
[19:12] <bdmurray> what a coincidence - I uploaded apport to quantal.
[19:12] <infinity> I'm betting this won't be a fair trade...
[19:12] <infinity> But I probably still owe you for making you look at glibc SRUs at one point, don't I?
[19:12] <bdmurray> not fair because your definition of 5 minutes is funny
[19:13] <infinity> bdmurray: No, my review really is 5 seconds.  Just fixing changelog syntax so dpkg-parsechangelog doesn't vomit. :P
[19:15] <infinity> Many thanks.
[19:15] <infinity> Now, where's this apport you spoke of?
[19:15] <infinity> bdmurray: Oh, the upload from 6 days ago?
[19:16] <bdmurray> infinity: yes that's the one
[19:17] <infinity> bdmurray: This doesn't need to go to precise as well?
[19:17] <infinity> (I'm guessing precise is entirely missing that codepath, or...?)
[19:20] <bdmurray> infinity: the only thing I know that is affected is the release upgrader and catching issue upgrading to quantal didn't seem as important...
[19:23] <infinity> bdmurray: So, who's going to rewrite apport in C, so it actually performs? :)
[19:25] <xnox> infinity: ev has urges to rewrite stuff in C from time to time =)
[19:26] <infinity> xnox: Well, with the push to mobile and other wimpy devices, the more we can purge python from the base system, the happier I'll be. :P
[19:27] <xnox> infinity: cause javascript is so much faster than python?!
[19:27]  * xnox chuckles
[19:30] <infinity> xnox: Yeah, not quite what I was driving for.
[19:35] <cjwatson> Thanks, but that sawfish won't build unless somebody also reviews rep-gtk.
[19:36] <cjwatson> (Though the version in precise was fine)
[19:47] <cjwatson> ah yes, and let's close the rep-gtk raring task in case that confuses anyone
[20:51] <infinity> cjwatson: Alright, that bcmwl in proposed just shaved another ~12M off the precise images.  Getting closer.
[20:54] <infinity> cjwatson: (compare 20130117 and 20130117.1)
[21:17] <infinity> bdmurray: If I can get you to review (again, sorry, missed a bug) linux-meta-lowlatency in both precise and quantal? :)
[21:18] <infinity> bdmurray: (Yeah, this wouldn't normally be time-sensitive, but trying to keep the meta SRUs and verifications lockstep with the kernels they match)
[21:37] <bdmurray> infinity: sure no problem
[21:37] <infinity> bdmurray: My hero.
[21:38] <infinity> bdmurray: Is there any specific order you're attacking the queues today?  I can start from the other end and try to get some done too.
[21:38] <bdmurray> I'm looking at Q and anything since 2013-01-01
[21:41] <xnox> infinity: 4 easy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/1085392
[21:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1085392 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [High,In progress]
[21:41] <infinity> xnox: Yeah, I know.  I'm not looking for just easy. :P
[21:41] <infinity> xnox: But I'll get to those.
[21:42] <bdmurray> infinity: I'm just going to accept it not sru-accept - okay?
[21:43] <infinity> bdmurray: Sure.
[21:43] <infinity> bdmurray: I normally never sru-accept kernely things anyway, since there's a whole out-of-band process there.
[21:44] <xnox> infinity: ack.   Can't say.
[22:42] <cjwatson> Could somebody process the dosfstools-udeb binaries in raring/NEW?  It's time-sensitive because I need to get matching SRUs in for 12.04.2 to meet a customer requirement
[22:43] <cjwatson> Should go into main - I'll be changing partman-basicfilesystems to depend on it shortly
[22:59] <infinity> cjwatson: I'll have a stab at it right now.
[23:00] <infinity> cjwatson: No postinst, contents look sane, looks good to me.
[23:01] <cjwatson> Yeah, I'd have had to try to get it wrong.  I dithered about whether to put dosfslabel in as well, but decided I didn't need it in partman-basicfilesystems.
[23:02] <infinity> cjwatson: You may regret that decision in a few months.  dosfslabel is pretty handy.
[23:02] <cjwatson> Easy enough to change if we do need it.  I don't believe I've ever used it though.
[23:02] <infinity> cjwatson: (though, in partman, you can sort of assume you're setting labels as a function of formatting filesystems, which mkdosfs does fine on its own)
[23:02] <cjwatson> Exactly
[23:03] <cjwatson> In fact it doesn't have a code path for doing otherwise AFAICS
[23:03] <cjwatson> (It arguably should, but)
[23:03] <infinity> We use(d) dosfslabel in jasper to hide the uboot VFAT partition.
[23:04] <infinity> Which, actually, partman-uboot could leverage, if it wasn't a steaming heap.
[23:06] <infinity> What I can't sort out is why dosfslabel is twice the size of mkdosfs...
[23:07] <cjwatson> Beats me
[23:07] <infinity> You'd think one could make it reeeeally tiny, as just a subset of mkdosfs.  Or, in fact, a hardlink/symlink that just invokes mkdosfs with a label-changing mode.
[23:07] <infinity> But whatever.
[23:08] <infinity> Carefactor: 0.
[23:08] <cjwatson> I think it links a buttload of objects it doesn't need
[23:08] <cjwatson> And something doesn't notice
[23:08] <cjwatson> but yeah, whatever.  maybe it's harder because it's reading an existing filesystem as well as writing bits out, and doing an overachieved job of it
[23:09] <cjwatson> mkdosfs just has to go "yeah, screw you, blat"
[23:09] <infinity> Heh.
[23:09] <infinity> Fair point.  I imagine writing a FAT is about the easiest filesystem creation there is.
[23:09] <infinity> And requires zero understanding of how to read it.


[00:01] <aperson> evilnhandler: look into pysdm
[00:01] <aperson> err, evilsherpa
[00:01] <aperson> or wait, is the music directory remote?
[00:11] <cato37> i am still having difficulty extracting data (backup copies on dvd) made using winrar set to 0% compression and 5
[00:11] <cato37> oops.
[00:20] <cato37> i am still having difficulty extracting data (backup copies on dvd) made using winrar set to 0% compression and 5% recovery record. it is one archive split at 4.7 gig on 5 disks. unrar keeps crashing. is there a better alternative to use?
[00:20] <cato37> *ark keeps crashing
[00:32] <BiggFREE> Hi
[00:37] <harjot> how do you remove vt's in kubuntu 8.04?
[00:46] <lovre> hi
[00:46] <lovre> i have just upgraded to 10.4... What is this all Activity business? How do i change plasma appearance?
[00:49] <basajaun> hirunning 10.4 suddenly can't shut down properly  help?
[00:50] <ussher_> how do i change the system date format?  if i go to SYSTEM SETTING-> DATE & TIME  the date says 06/18/10  i want it to say 18/06/10
[00:50] <ussher_> sorry, kubuntu 10.04
[00:52] <harjot> How do i remove a vtt?
[00:52] <ussher_> I've already tried under "Regional and language" -> "date and time" but these settings have no effect on the date displayed at SYSTEM SETTING-> DATE & TIME
[00:52] <harjot> ussher_: It should change
[00:53] <ussher_> harjot: should and do are different though.  I thought it should too.
[00:53] <harjot> Have you tried right clicking on the calendar thing at the bottom on your taskbar?
[00:54] <ussher_> havent got one there, ill put one there then right click it.  nice idea.
[00:54] <lovre> !activit
[00:54] <lovre> !activity
[00:54] <lovre> i dont get this activity concept, and tips?
[00:56] <bill> lovre:is your home folder visible on your desktop?
[00:56] <harjot> lovre: What where you on before?
[00:56] <harjot> lovre: 8.04?
[00:56] <ussher_> harjot: no love.  just the clock settings.
[00:57] <harjot> Hmmm...
[00:57] <lovre> harjot: i was on 9.10 before. my home is not visible on the desktop
[00:58] <ussher_> im rebooting that system now to see if it needs a reboot.  shouldnt think it would, but worth a try.
[00:58] <bill> lovre: are you on 10.04 now
[00:58] <harjot> lovre:: Im stilll on 8.04 but i think the activites thing are like widgets and things that move about
[00:58] <lovre> bill: yes
[00:58] <harjot> ussher_: Ok
[00:58] <bill> lovre: do you see the icon in the top right of your desktop
[00:58] <lovre> there are buttons for "add new activity" but i dont get it, what do i add? nothing seems to change :s
[00:58] <lovre> bill: yes, i do
[00:59] <lovre> bill: says "Desktop" on oit
[00:59] <lovre> bill: says "Desktop" on it
[00:59] <harjot> lovre: drag widgets to your desktop
[00:59] <harjot> lovre: For example pull out the red bouncy ball
[00:59] <bill> lovre: click on it and the click on Desktop Activity Settings
[00:59] <lovre> bill: ok
[01:00] <ussher_> harjot: that did it.  guess it needed a bit of force.  Thanks very much
[01:00] <bill> lovre: do you see Activity
[01:00] <lovre> bill: yes
[01:00] <harjot> ussher_: No probs
[01:00] <bill> lovre: if u click on it what do you see on the right side of the window
[01:01] <harjot> ussher_: I guess it didnt refresh but it changed it
[01:01] <lovre> bill: only two fields, first is "Type" and it says "Desktop" and the other is "name", also says "Desktop"
[01:01] <ussher_> harjot: the settings in  SYSTEM SETTING-> DATE & TIME  started to obey the preferences in  "Regional and language" -> "date and time"  after the reboot
[01:02] <harjot> ussher_: So basically the values may not change, because they are in use already, and when you shut down, then it changes cause nothing uses it then.
[01:02] <bill> lovre: if u click on Type, do u get a drop down
[01:03] <lovre> bill: yes, i can choose between "Desktop" and "Folder view"
[01:03] <ussher_> harjot: yeah there is usually a message saying the same sort of thing "you need to restart applications in order for settings to take effec" but i didnt think that would apply to the settings setting area.  Guess it does.  Learnt something.
[01:03] <ussher_> harjot++
[01:04] <harjot> lol
[01:20] <cato37> can anyone help with a good prog that can help me unrap the customized rar files used for backup? ark with unrar keeps crashing when i try to extract.
[01:23] <solifugus> Is there an Intel64 version of the ISO download?
[01:23] <solifugus> I only see i386 and AMD64...
[01:24] <bill> lovre: r ustill here
[01:24] <lovre> yes
[01:25] <bill> lovre: I just added DILBERT Comic as a widget
[01:25] <solifugus> lovre: r u a grl?  your nick comes up pink on my irc client..
[01:26] <maco2> solifugus: that's your irc client. it has nothing to do with the other person's gender
[01:26] <maco2> !u | solifugus
[01:26] <lovre> solifugus: lool, no, and why does name color mean anything? i dont have any colors :s
[01:27] <bill> this is not english..it is a new language
[01:28] <solifugus> English evolves according to improper changes in use that become common and then become real English.. every year, new words enter that way.
[01:28] <bill> yup like the word aint
[01:29] <solifugus> we'll be teaching our grant kids how to say, "l8r" properly and they'll be disobedient saying "later, sir".. "sir" will have become a dirty word.
[01:29] <lovre> i cant run firefox anymore....?
[01:30] <solifugus> lovre: it might need to walk a while.. catch its breath.
[01:30] <lovre> solifugus: haha, nice one
[01:31] <lovre> but i need firefox browser application, not the fox
[01:31] <solifugus> What happens when you try to run it?
[01:32] <bill> sentences will be required to have the word "like" at the beginning, middle and end of every sentence.
[01:34] <cato37> englitch haz bin gud two mee.
[01:35] <harjot> How do i remove a vtt?
[01:39] <cato37> have a good day all.
[01:40] <bill> lovre:doo u no how 2 access the KDE Help manual on ur pc
[01:40] <lovre> bill: pressing F1?
[01:41] <bill> havent tried that but I do it by clicking on the Kickoof Application Launcher
[01:42] <bill> then type help in the search box b
[01:47] <bill> lovre:have u tired that
[01:47] <bill> tried
[01:49] <lovre> i didnt
[01:49] <lovre> i will though
[01:49] <lovre> usually those help things dont help much to be honest
[01:49] <bill> it explains about the Plasma desktop and about widgets etc
[02:11] <lovre> i am getting this error when trying to install kdevelop; http://pastebin.ca/1885516
[02:24] <solifugus> What are the alternate ISO images?
[02:26] <vale_maio> ehy there, anyone knows a way to have changing wallpapers on kubuntu?
[02:38] <ussher_> vale_maio: like this stuff? http://3dfiction.com/
[02:39] <vale_maio> let me see
[02:40] <Andrew9> solifugus: mdf/mds
[02:41] <ussher_> vale_maio: I thnkin i remember an app that was in the repos for streaming fractals.  tried it out about 8.04 ish  trying to find what it was called now.
[02:41] <solifugus> Andrew9: what is mdf/mds?
[02:42] <vale_maio> ussher_: yes, but I was looking for something can change wallpapers with personal images
[02:42] <Andrew9> solifugus: mdf image file and mds control file. alternative to iso
[02:42] <ussher_> like a different still image each time you log in?
[02:42] <vale_maio> no, like a different image every 10 minutes
[02:43] <ussher_> ah like a slide show.
[02:43] <vale_maio> yes
[02:44] <solifugus> i c.. i think
[02:44] <vale_maio> ok, it's not so important
[02:45] <vale_maio> maybe I'll search something tomorrow
[02:45] <vale_maio> now it's so late
[02:45] <ussher_> vale_maio: could be this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYinDOKbE8
[02:46] <vale_maio> i'll watch it
[02:46] <vale_maio> but tomorrow
[02:46] <ussher_> seams to indicate that a folder contents can be used as backgrounds for the desktop
[02:47] <ussher_> vale_maio: or maybe this http://lifehacker.com/400505/rotate-desktop-backgrounds-in-ubuntu
[02:49] <vale_maio> it may be right
[02:49] <vale_maio> tomorrow i'll try it
[02:49] <vale_maio> thank you!
[02:57] <josian> hi
[02:59] <josian> Does someone knows how to prevent Kbluetooth and Printer applet from autostart everytime i log on to Kubuntu?
[03:31] <francisco> so
[03:32] <rav> hello. does anyone know of an application/widget to count throughput of a network interface?
[04:03] <solifugus> So I installed the latest i386 kubuntu into a virtualbox vm (latest version from sun).....
[04:03] <solifugus> I get a text login and "sudo apt-get upgrade" gives me this error: segmentation fault tree: 50%
[04:04] <solifugus> anything to do?
[04:18] <solifugus> reboot again and it appears to have frozen at its boot screen..
[04:18] <solifugus> I haven't been able to get a kubuntu version to install in virtualbox in a very long time now..
[04:24] <solifugus> Is this likely to install on real hardware and work?
[04:25] <solifugus> I am presuming I need to use the i386 version instead of amd64, because I have a 4 core intel64 box..
[04:26] <solifugus> any nobody here ever talks..
[04:26] <solifugus> So I might as well recite poetry..
[04:26] <solifugus> if i can think of any
[04:27] <Erod> rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[04:27] <Erod> For the segfault
[04:31] <Erod> And amd64 refers to both amd 64and intel64.
[05:28] <Guest14533> quit
[05:28] <Guest14533> exit
[05:59] <juanbeto__> mmm
[05:59] <juanbeto__> español???
[05:59] <maco> !es | juanbeto__
[06:36] <avishek> Hi! Does anyone have any experience setting up an Ubuntu server with no-ip?
[07:44] <olskolirc> can I NOT use Klipper?  Will it disable my c/p if I "quit" it?
[07:44] <olskolirc> I'm tired of cleaning this stupid thing just to c/p its holding me up
[07:45] <olskolirc> netsplit?
[08:25] <MusiCrazY> nesesito ayuda
[08:25] <MusiCrazY> cual es el canal en español?
[09:14] <kleopatra> Hello. i would like to know one thing: can i assume that a Level1-Cachemiss will take a constant amount of time, if there is no L2-Cachemiss? Or generally does it take a constant amount of time to access L2-Cahce or MainMemory on a certain system?
[09:48] <mika__> hi, i've attached an external monitor on my notebook... it works... or at least the clone mode works, how can i change the setting in order to have an extend desktop instead of a clone one ?
[10:02] <phoenix__> i feel that the taskmanager in kde is not powerful, when a program hangs, and i press the keys to get taskmanager, it is not starting. i am using kde 4.5 beta 2. can anyone help me
[10:11] <rohdef> does anyone know a good program that can be used to keep track of my DVDs, books and CDs, who I borrowed them to and such?
[10:14] <phoenix__> rohdef: you need an inventory program
[10:16] <ylal> I have install Kubuntu Lucid on my Laptop ( Compaq CQ-40 536tx ), its having sound problem, audio out put is pulsating. Any idea why it so.
[10:17] <ylal> Previous version like Jaunty, Karmic is working fine
[10:23] <evilsherpa> hey aLL, SO ive installed a second hdd, ive formatted it in gparted, and rebooted, but i dont see it in fstab
[10:24] <evilsherpa> how do i add a ntfs drive to fstab with write priveledges ?
[10:24] <evilsherpa> im googling
[10:33] <maverick_> heyyy
[10:34] <maverick_> ny1 interested in chat
[10:43] <ionut> does anyone knows a software which i can install to see all  my computer hardware specs?
[10:46] <evilsherpa> hey all, ive mounted a ntfs hdd, and addedd it to fstab, now when i reboot, surely enough its there, mounted to the mount point, but its read only, how do i add write access?
[10:47] <Hazamonzo> omg these ATI drivers suck!
[10:47] <ionut> does anyone knows a software which i can install to see all  my computer hardware specs?
[10:50] <evilsherpa> currently its /dev/sdb1    /media/windows    ntfs-fuse    auto,gid=1002,umask=0002    0    0 should it be /dev/sdb1    /media/windows    ntfs-fuse    auto,users,umask=0007,uid=1000         0       0
[10:50] <evilsherpa> anyone?
[10:55] <greenmang0> evilsherpa: what is the output of "mount" command?
[10:56] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, i think i broke it
[10:56] <tanderson__> ionut: terminal, sudo lshw
[10:57] <evilsherpa> greenmang0,http://www.pastebin.org/338618
[10:57] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, i did unmount it though
[10:57] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, because i was messing in fstab and it stopped working
[10:58] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, i made that change mentioned above
[10:58] <likeu>  hi i have problem with wmv and avi file , when ever download torrent files wmv type , i got messege when i played the file  , :( To play this movie you need to download vidplayer )
[10:59] <evilsherpa> likeu, get vlc and if that doesnt work its a crappy rar file that you cant play
[10:59] <likeu> evilnhandler, not rar
[11:00] <likeu> evilnhandler, wmv and not one file many files download from torrent
[11:01] <greenmang0> evilsherpa: do you have ntfs-3g installed?
[11:02] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, i dont think so, il check, i had it installed when it automounted
[11:02] <evilsherpa> with write access
[11:03] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, yeh i do have it installed
[11:04] <greenmang0> likeu: i might be a fake torrent... are you able to play other wmv/avi files you have?
[11:05] <likeu> greenmang0, yes :D
[11:05] <greenmang0> likeu: then it must be a fake torrent
[11:05] <likeu> greenmang0, but the file have 780 mb , how come be fake , i mean how did it
[11:06] <greenmang0> likeu: yeah.. so what? i also get fooled sometimes... i downloaded whole 750mb stuff and it was fake
[11:06] <greenmang0> evilsherpa: did you try mounting manuallly?
[11:06] <greenmang0> evilsherpa: mount -o remount rw /dev/sdb1
[11:07] <likeu> greenmang0,  so , what the most trusted website for torrent ?
[11:07] <greenmang0> likeu: i use isohunt.com all the time but can't say it's trusted.. always check user comments before downloading torrent file
[11:08] <likeu> greenmang0,  ok thanks man :)
[11:08] <evilsherpa> greenmang0, mount manager sorted it out
[11:08] <evilsherpa> will check whats been added to fstab to see what it means
[11:09] <greenmang0> evilsherpa: ok.. let me know.. does this mount manager writes to /etc/fstab?
[11:09] <greenmang0> s/writes/write
[11:13] <rogerio> bom dia!!
[11:14] <rogerio> rrsrsr... nunca pensei q eu estaria num IRC do kubuntu uma hora dessas...
[11:25] <plattdeutscher> I try to backup a dying hard disk with rsync. The system tries many reads at each file, even if it is broken. How can I reduce this? I.e. I only want those files that are correct and fast to backup
[11:49] <thom_> Wow... this is crowded...
[12:49] <SiVA_> My mic input doesn't work on my laptop. I think it's a linux issue, but I'm not sure how to determine that. Any suggestions?
[13:26] <pratik_narain> I'm getting temp about 61 deg c on my dell inspiron 1545 laptop with kubuntu lucid and it was about 46 deg c with ubuntu lucid. Is it too high to damage the system
[13:28] <James147> pratik_narain: that should be fine, most mordern computers have a cutoff threshold to shutdown the system if the computer gets too hot. If you want to lower it consider disabling some effects or turning of strigi (or other process hungry tasks)
[13:28] <mika__> hi, how can i extend a desktop on a second external monitor? (now it's mirrored)
[13:28] <James147> mika__: what graphics card do you ahve?
[13:28] <mika__> James147: nvidia
[13:29] <James147> mika__: have you enabled the propriety drivers for it?
[13:29] <mika__> James147: yes, i've them
[13:30] <James147> mika__: run: "sudo nvidia-config" then "kdesudo nvidia-settings" and enable twinview
[13:31] <mika__> James147: i don't have nvidia-config, but i have nvidia-setting
[13:31] <James147> mika__: think you can just use that
[13:31] <mika__> yes, i'm in it
[13:36] <mika__> James147: it's working, thank you :)
[14:28] <Blueskaj> hiyas
[14:36] <gorgonizer> Is there an easy way to downgrade from KDE 4.5 Beta 2 to KDE 4.4.4?  Other than reinstalling the system?
[14:40] <James147> gorgonizer: downgrading is not supported and I don't think is easy to do :(
[14:41] <James147> gorgonizer: you could try removing kde completely and then removing the ppa and reinstall it... not sure how much truoble you would have with that though
[14:42] <gorgonizer> James147: oh well, cheers for the info, guess I will have to reboot every 24 hours until a release candidate is realeased..
[14:43] <James147> gorgonizer: :) once every 24 hours aint that bad... most people do that normally, it should be too long before rc is realeased though
[14:43]  * James147 goes to look up the schdual
[14:44] <gorgonizer> James147: with KDE 4.4 I only ever rebooted when kernel upgrades occurs, with KDE 4.5 plasma-desktop leaks memory like a sieve
[14:45] <James147> gorgonizer: anyidea what is leaking? you might be alb eto turn it off :) looks to be realeas about the 7th july - http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Release_Schedule
[14:47] <gorgonizer> James147: I have read on various webpages that it may be either the systray or Ktorrent, either which I currently cannot do without..
[14:47] <James147> gorgonizer: if it is ktorrent, then would not restaring ktorrent fix the problem (rather then restaring the system)
[14:49] <James147> gorgonizer: also you could try to find out what is actually causing the problem... ksysguard or top can help with that
[14:50] <gorgonizer> After 24 hours palsma-desktop uses 1.5GB of system memory, and closing KTorrent makes no difference at this point.. I would need to restart the system with KTorrent closed and run the system for 24 hours to fully test that it is Ktorrent causing issues, however, I am testing things with KTorrent at the moment..
[14:51] <James147> gorgonizer: sounds like its plasma-desktop then, you should just beble to restart that without needing to restart the system though
[14:51] <James147> gorgonizer: hell, you could write a script to restart it every few hours without much problem :)
[14:52] <James147> gorgonizer: as a temp fix untill rc
[14:52] <mime> hi everyone, afetr all, thanks for the help. my issue is with an external hdd, correctly detected in wind*ws, but once pluged in ubuntu 9.04, it makes a noise and is not detected. it is in nfts, and formmated, i dont have data inside. thanks again
[14:52] <gorgonizer> James147: ture, I could, but I restart in that hope that plasma-desktop will remember my plasmoid settings (position and size, rather than just position), which it never does :)
[14:53] <gorgonizer> James147: will try the restarting of plasma-desktop next time it ruins my KDE experience :)  cheers for the advice.
[14:53] <James147> gorgonizer: kquitapp plasma-desktop   might be more frendly then killall :)
[14:53] <James147> gorgonizer: although I am not sure of the difference between them
[14:53] <jaime> hi, 10.4 here. including an attachment in sent mail makes the machine terminally freeze in mid of sending. happens with thunderbird and kmail. reinstalled th and kmail, fresh profies, checked disk and filesystem thoroughly. i'm desperate. any ideas?
[14:54] <gorgonizer> James147: I have heard that, and have tried it as well, didn't help with the plasmoid size issue :(
[14:56] <James147> gorgonizer: if not a logout/login should work just as well as a reboot :)
[14:56] <gorgonizer> James147: okay :)  will keep that in mind :)
[14:57] <James147> gorgonizer: since the problem is with user level programs and not the system its self
[14:59] <James147> gorgonizer: form what i can tell it looks like kquitapp is ment to save plasma-desktops settings (same with logout) not sure why it wouldnet on your comp
[15:01] <gorgonizer> James147: good to knwo that my PC and me are being weird, as usual.
[15:05] <neha_> i am using kubuntu 10.04,and i am having problem with my wireless in dell inspiron 1525.problem is that it does not connect to any wireless network.it shows only activating some times and some times does nothing.this problem is only with kde,wireless is working perfectly in gnome.
[15:08] <Blueskaj> neha_, is the network manger asking for a pw thru kwallet after login ?
[15:08] <mime> hey neha use wicd
[15:09] <mime> well, i will try to install suse, once there formatting my external hdd, lets see if it works
[15:09] <mime> cya
[15:24] <angel> ubuntu-es!
[15:25] <angel> ubuntu spanish please ?
[15:26] <Pici> angel: /join #ubuntu-es
[15:26] <Blueskaj> angel try #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[15:26] <angel> thank you
[15:32] <EvilSeed> the Kubuntu bluetooth manager returns "sorry your device doesnt support input services " whenever I try to pair my phone with my computer , how can I fix that
[15:37] <EvilSeed> any help ?
[15:40] <Blueskaj> EvilSeed, you may need to search for a driver for your phone . I have a motorola phone that is supposed to work with the default moto driver but unfortunately it doesn't se the phone's dirs
[15:41] <Blueskaj> EvilSeed, some ppl have had better luck than me of course
[15:42] <EvilSeed> I thought pairing a phone using bluetooth technology doesnt need any drivers
[15:43] <EvilSeed> ps : it paired with no issues on Gnome's bluetootyh manager
[15:43] <EvilSeed> -y
[15:44] <EvilSeed> hence being on the internet right now
[15:45] <Blueskaj> oh sorry , forgot about the kbluetooth app , right
[15:47] <EvilSeed> what about kbluetooth ?
[15:47] <EvilSeed> doesnt pair with phones or something ?
[15:47] <Blueskaj> it's the bluetooth client on kde
[16:29] <lovre> hi all. i am new to eclipse, just trying to get my first simple C/C++ application to build. But i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/1885824
[16:34] <James147> lovre: cant really tell you much without more information :S but you might want to consider asking in ##c++
[16:34] <lovre> James147: ok, thanks
[16:46] <mime> hello, i try to access my external drive but get that error msg: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[16:46] <mime> ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdb1': No such file or directory
[16:46] <mime> Please type '/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g --help' for more information.
[16:51] <avihay_> mime, ls /dev/sd*
[16:56] <philmon> hie guys
[17:16] <Lightning> Yo
[17:16] <Lightning> I need help with an atheros wifi thing.
[17:16] <Lightning> Kubuntu Lucid;
[17:17] <Lightning> It was working since I updated with ath5k now it just radomly sropped.
[17:17] <Lightning> stopped*
[17:18] <Lightning> 279 users and nobody can help me?
[17:18] <EvilSeed> patience my friend
[17:18] <Lightning> :)
[17:19] <Lightning> Hmm... contrast isn't here.
[17:20] <Lightning> .
[17:20] <Lightning> ..
[17:20] <Lightning> ...
[17:20] <Lightning> ....
[17:20] <FloodBotK1> Lightning: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <Lightning> Rawr.
[17:37] <Lightning> I need help with an atheros wifi thing.
[17:37] <Lightning> Kubuntu Lucid;
[17:37] <Lightning> It was working since I updated with ath5k now it just radomly sropped.
[17:38] <EvilSeed> try to downgrade
[17:39] <Lightning> :|
[17:39] <Blueskaj> Lightning, open network manager / manage connections , check to make sure your settings wre saved
[17:40] <Lightning> It wasn't owrking on Jaunty.
[17:40] <Lightning> I upgraded to Lucid. It started working. Around a week later now, it's stopped.
[17:40] <Blueskaj> EvilSeed, no need for frivilous suggestions
[17:40] <Lightning> It was using ath5k. I just checked my BL and it has ath5k on it :S
[17:41] <Blueskaj> BL ?
[17:41] <EvilSeed> what ! I was serious :)
[17:41] <Lightning> blacklist. no no. It was commented
[17:41] <Lightning> I just uncommented it.
[17:41] <Lightning> So should I try without ath5k or with?
[17:43] <Lightning> I'm restarting with ath5k blacklisted. Just to see what happens.
[17:43] <Lightning> brb
[17:44] <Blueskaj> Lightning, is that a usb adapter wifi , or builtin ?
[17:48] <Lightning> I BLed ath5k and restarted.
[17:48] <Blueskaj> Lightning, just for my info ; is that a usb adapter wifi , or builtin ?
[17:49] <Lightning> With ath5k commented it still gave me a an "enable wrless button but faded out. ath5k BLed just gives me manga connections
[17:49] <Lightning> It's builtin
[17:49] <Lightning> ar5001
[17:51] <Lightning> Blueskaj:
[17:51] <Blueskaj> laptop >?
[17:51] <Lightning> Yes
[17:52] <Lightning> Compaq Presario C700
[17:53] <Lightning> Any suggestions?
[17:55] <Blueskaj> can you click on manage connections to make sure your settings haven't changed , it's stating the obvious , but I must ask
[17:55] <Lightning> It doesn't detect my wireless.
[17:56] <Lightning> As far as y card is concerned NM thinks it doesn't exist.
[17:56] <Lightning> I'm getting help in #wireless
[17:59] <bazhang> linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic Lightning tried installing that?
[17:59] <Lightning> Lemme try. Then restart?
[17:59] <bazhang> yep
[18:00] <Lightning> If you don;t mind waiting :)
[18:00] <bazhang> assuming you are on lucid, though
[18:01] <slow-motion> hi
[18:06] <Blueskaj> bazhang, will that work with usb wifi adapters ?
[18:06] <bazhang> Blueskaj, dont see why not
[18:07] <Blueskaj> I have one that even ndiswapper can't help
[18:07] <bazhang> worth a shot certainly
[18:07] <Blueskaj> rt 2870 driver
[18:11] <^Lightning^> bazhang: I LOVE YOU
[18:12] <bazhang> ^Lightning^, working?
[18:12] <^Lightning^> YeaH
[18:12] <bazhang> !yay
[18:12] <^Lightning^> !yay
[18:13] <Blueskaj> !cookie | bazhang
[18:13] <Blueskaj> :)
[18:13] <EvilSeed> :)
[18:13] <bazhang> we should may be have a factoid for that atheros fix
[18:13] <bazhang> the current one links to only Intrepid
[18:13] <Blueskaj> yeah, no doubt
[18:14] <bazhang> the !atheros one
[18:14] <bazhang> completely different named package in lucid
[18:15] <Blueskaj> linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic, seems to cover a lot of ground
[18:15] <bazhang> yep
[18:16] <bazhang> there is also the -pae one if you use that kernel
[18:16] <^Lightning^> Guide to ar5001 in Lucid:
[18:16] <^Lightning^> 1. Make sure ath5k isn't blacklisted
[18:16] <^Lightning^> 2.  Any ideas how to accomplish this?
[19:11] <otswim> hello, my mouse acceleration is at minimum; can i decrease the mouse sensitivity further?
[19:21] <jmux> Hi - is there a way to disable the http cache (/var/tmp/kdecache-*/http) for "manual" downloads? Currently a manual download is saved to the target location and the cache which prevents me to download larger files, as my /var/tmp isn't that large.
[20:36] <harman> hi guys
[20:36] <harman> newbie here
[20:37] <shadeslayer> harman: hi!
[20:37] <AAU|Vince> what's is your problem ?
[20:37] <harman> anyone here to help with ATI prop Driver MANUAL installation in Ubuntu Lucid
[20:37] <shadeslayer> harman: Welcome to #kubuntu :)
[20:37] <shadeslayer> harman: manual install? why not use the repository to install stuff?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> harman: assuming you know about repositories .....
[20:38] <harman> yes i know
[20:38] <harman> just wanna do it MANUALLY
[20:39] <harman> repositories serving Catalyst 10.4 ATM
[20:39] <shadeslayer> harman: um... may i ask why>
[20:39] <harman> and 10.6 is out
[20:39] <harman> i wanna try that
[20:39] <maco> there is no 10.6
[20:39] <maco> oh wait
[20:39] <maco> haha
[20:39] <harman> heard at forums , it serves better 2D Acc
[20:39] <maco> nevermind
[20:39] <shadeslayer> maco: :)
[20:39] <maco> i thought you meant a kubuntu release number and got confused
[20:39] <shadeslayer> hehe :P
[20:40] <Blueskaj> harman, which ati card ?
[20:40] <shadeslayer> harman: is your card compatible with the new drivers?
[20:40] <shadeslayer> usually older cards get phased out with newer drivers....
[20:41] <shadeslayer> maco: i wish we could do this : http://flic.kr/p/8br4mW : with kde :(
[20:41] <harman> Its integrated ( 785g Chipset ) AKA Radeon HD 4200
[20:41] <harman> yes its compatible
[20:42] <harman> currently , UBUNTU installed by default ... X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
[20:43] <maco> shadeslayer: i thought kde had that before gnome... i recall one of the guys in the loco who used kde before me having a wallpaper that changed by timezone
[20:44] <harman> Guys, i had been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:45] <harman> but the issue is that in above link, 6 deb packages are generated , whereas i am able to generate only 4
[20:45] <harjot> harman: Reading it currently
[20:46] <harman> also followed this for 10.6 and lucid specific ...
[20:46] <harman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9475983
[20:47] <harman> Guys, do i need to remove existing installed Xorg ATI driver before generating DEB Package for FGLRX ?
[20:48] <harjot> How can you do that?
[20:49] <harjot> Xorg is running currently isnt it?
[20:49] <harman> newbie , can do everything  :(
[20:49] <Blueskaj> harman, normally yes because the installed driver is the working default and usually you have to drop to a ttym stop the kdm service , then remove the old driver and install the new dribver
[20:49] <harman> i had installed ubuntu 7th time after corrupting Xorg Configuration
[20:50] <Blueskaj> err sudo service kdm stop
[20:50] <harman> and Even Getty consoles don't view a login prompt ... :(
[20:50] <harjot> harman: Did you downlaod it of the ati website repository
[20:50] <harman> ATI Website
[20:50] <harjot> ok
[20:51] <harjot> So i think those instructions on the ubuntu page will work
[20:51] <Blueskaj> proprietary ati drivers are notoriously unreliable ...I know , cuz I used one for a while
[20:51] <harjot> I agree
[20:51] <harman> yes , they shud , but in those instructions , they generated 6 deb packages , whereas mine PC does generate only FOUR DEB PACKAGEAS
[20:53] <Blueskaj> harman, you need only one driver
[20:53] <Blueskaj> anyway , gotta go
[20:54] <harman> @ Blueskaj , i m talking about required packages generated by ATI Prop Driver , which install ATI Driver ( Single Driver Ofcourse )
[21:49] <slow-motion> bbl
[22:07] <m250> wassup everyone?
[22:08] <m250> anybody here for a quick help?
[22:08] <m250> hellooo... (echo... echo... echo...)
[22:09] <m250> hi slow-motion
[22:11] <shadeslayer> m250: hi
[22:11] <shadeslayer> any issues?
[22:12] <m250> howdy
[22:12] <m250> quick question;
[22:12] <shadeslayer> m250: also try to be patient and search other channels for generic help,like #ubuntu :)
[22:12] <shadeslayer> m250: shoot
[22:12] <m250> just installed kubuntu 10.04, how do i change the grub menu order or default OS? i went thru the 10.04 man pages, but the info is wrong
[22:12] <m250> i do not have a menu.lst
[22:13] <shadeslayer> m250: ah right
[22:13] <shadeslayer> m250: thats because we have grub2 now
[22:13] <m250> o i c
[22:13] <shadeslayer> m250: well i have a quick fix but it will get overwritten on next grub update
[22:13] <m250> lol, any idea when that will be?
[22:14] <m250> but that;'s ok anyways, 'cuz the update is optional, right?
[22:14] <shadeslayer> m250: nope.. its run everytime theres a new kernel installed
[22:14] <shadeslayer> m250: found this http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3107328.0
[22:15] <shadeslayer> m250: first hit on google ;)
[22:15] <shadeslayer> m250: and this one : http://www.hackourlives.com/change-default-boot-order-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/
[22:16] <harmandeep> Guys, anyway via which mine Active VMware Virtual Ethernet Adaptors can be managed via Network Manager Applet in UBUNTU LUCID ~
[22:16] <m250> doh! thanx :) didnt know i should be searching for grub2
[22:16] <harmandeep> i.e VMnet Adaptors
[22:18] <shadeslayer> !virtual
[22:19] <cato37> my toshiba laptop has no sound. how do i fix it?
[22:19] <cato37> !sound
[22:25] <cato37> what does it mean when a command has to have today's date--is that like 6182101?
[22:25] <cato37> *06182010?
[22:33] <cato37> upgrading alsa by compiling looks complicated. is there safer way to uprade it?
[22:34] <claydoh> cato37: why do  you need to upgrade alsa?
[22:34] <yaniyakov> yes why?
[22:34] <cato37> i dont have any sound on my laptop.
[22:34] <yaniyakov> hm
[22:34] <yaniyakov> prv
[22:35] <cato37> it had sound when i installed the distro cd, but after the upgrades the sound stopped
[22:35] <Walex> cato37: there are no easy ways. Note that you need to upgrade only the kernel drivers.
[22:35] <Walex> cato37: also it is likely that there is another reason why the sound stopped.
[22:37] <cato37> the speaker icon is in the task tray and the slider bar shows when i manually change the volume
[22:38] <cato37> i was hoping going to the latest version would get the sound going
[22:46] <kubuntu10> may filipino ba d2?
[22:46] <kubuntu10> any filipino here?
[23:27] <slow-motion> n8