[01:53] <smacktalk> i'm using mythbuntu...trying to vnc to the box.  what client should I install on my linux laptop?
[01:54] <smacktalk> ..also I'm having a little trouble navigating..it's a new installation and I've never played with this before.  how do I get to the command line?
[01:56] <smacktalk> oh got it ctrl alt F4
[02:23] <smacktalk> has anyone used avermedia volar max usb tv tuner for myth?  my system isn't recognizing it
[03:39] <smacktalk> anybody here?


[05:34] <twb> AFAICT the 6.10 desktop livecd does not take advantage of upstart's asynchronous starting facility, because everything (except what used to be inittab) is still started via /etc/init.d/rc.  Is this correct?
[05:35] <Amaranth> Yes.
[05:37] <twb> Will upstart continue to depend on upstart-compat-sysv?  If so, can a package maintainer provide init scripts for both sysvinit (i.e. Debian) and upstart?  Would it require separate packages for Ubuntu and Debian?
[05:42] <Amaranth> You've passed my limit of knowledge of upstart :P
[05:42] <Amaranth> I usually just idle here to watch the smart people talking
[05:42] <twb> It's more an infrastructure thing.
[05:42] <twb> I mean, there's a mechanism in place to make upstart start the sysvinit config files.
[05:43] <twb> That means that a package can't just provide a file in init.d and a file in event.d, because then the daemon will be started TWICE.
[05:43] <twb> (Am I making sense?)
[05:43] <Amaranth> yeah
[05:43] <Amaranth> i suggest filing a bug :)
[05:44] <twb> I'm allergic to the Ubuntu bug tracker :-(
[04:05] <_auke> errm.. hi?
[04:07] <_auke> can I bug anyone here with a tex-related question about the upstart-specification-pfd?
[04:08] <_auke> *pdf
[08:45] <psypointer> hi
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[11:29] <keen123456> i need to connet to a node
[11:30] <keen123456> pasted my reference at http://dark-code.bulix.org
[11:30] <keen123456> what happens now?
[11:31] <keen123456> #australia