[12:13] <towync> yeah that channel is dead lol
[12:13] <upd-dapper2edgy> ask price----
[12:13] <Zamber> !beryl | tomsku
[12:13] <ubotu> tomsku: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:13] <towync> so panel bar still transparent =(((
[12:13] <Zamber> argh
[12:14] <towync> i'll go into a corner and cry now lol
[12:14] <upd-dapper2edgy> did you go to transparency and disable it in appearance?
[12:14] <towync> yes
[12:14] <Captain_Haddock> towync: I used http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy and it worked like a breeze.
[12:14] <Zamber> towync do you have Option	    "Composite" "Disable" ?
[12:14] <towync> thx i'll sure check it out
[12:15] <Zamber> in your xorg.conf
[12:15] <towync> no i don't, but it looks for composite tho
[12:15] <towync> i had composite enable
[12:15] <towync> then i think i commented out the entire line
[12:15] <ernz> Hello, can someone please tell me how I could convert a 160MB MP4 into a 3GP that would work on my phone?
[12:15] <Captain_Haddock> towync: are you using the nvidia driver?
[12:16] <Zamber> towync DRI on?
[12:16] <butchart> gracias captain
[12:16] <towync> i'm pretty sure i'm using nvidia fx5900
[12:16] <towync> Zamber thx, but what's DRI?
[12:16] <Captain_Haddock> butchart: de nada
[12:16] <Zamber> !DRI
[12:16] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[12:16] <towync> how do i enable it tho
[12:16] <towync> should i google for it
[12:16] <Zamber> towync run glxinfo and check it
[12:16] <Zamber> line nr. 3
[12:17] <towync> cool
[12:17] <towync> just for fun, dri on google has a link to dirty rotten imbeciles lol
[12:17] <Captain_Haddock> towync: I recommending following that guide and saving yourself some time :)
[12:17] <towync> *checking*
[12:17] <Zamber> :D
[12:18] <towync> Captain_Haddock i followed that guide and others as well =) somehow beryl's not liking me for some reason,
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> towync: ah :(
[12:18] <towync> Zamber, checking output for glxinfo, i put on a new background picture today and konsole is transparent to background and hard as heck to read
[12:18] <_fnord> how do i tell if glx is running?
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[12:19] <_fnord> im on ubuntu 5.10
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: type glxgears
[12:19] <ernz> Anyone?
[12:19] <ernz> !3gp
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <towync> Zamber it says direct rendering on
[12:19] <Zamber> great
[12:20] <towync> Zamber yeah i know lol =)
[12:20] <Zamber> do you have xgl or aiglx ?
[12:20] <_fnord> Captain_Haddock: what now?the gears are there and moving as always,does that mean its on?less jumpy then when i was on kubuntu
[12:20] <towync> i know i don't have xgl, and i'm using kubuntu edgy so i'm assuming aiglx came with it, cuz when i try to run beryl, it says can't find xgl, and then it says attempting to start beryl without xgl, then freezes there
[12:21] <premier> hey, I swapped capslock and backspace on my computer but I have trouble making it perminant
[12:21] <_fnord> !beryl
[12:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:21] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: that means you have opengl installed :) I thought that was your question :P
[12:22] <Zamber> towync make sure you have aiglx running (follow a tut) and then start playing with beryl ;)
[12:22] <Zamber> !aiglx
[12:22] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[12:22] <towync> Zamber could you tell me how to get aiglx running hehe, i'm a total newbie
[12:22] <_fnord> i want to try and get beryl up and running
[12:22] <_fnord> is what i sould of said
[12:22] <Zamber> towy just google ;) there are lots and lots of tuts out there ;)
[12:23] <towync> tuts = tutorial right
[12:23] <towync> just checking =)
[12:23] <Zamber> yep
[12:23] <towync> k, thx alot =)
[12:23] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: I followed http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[12:23] <Zamber> you're welcone ;)
[12:23] <Zamber> welcome ;)
[12:23] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: and there's that dedicated channel linked above..
[12:23] <Zamber> I was trying to run aiglx myself
[12:23] <Zamber> but I have a ATI -_-
[12:23] <cntb> towync,  join #ubuntu-xgl must
[12:24] <Whopper> um
[12:25] <_fnord> thanks
[12:26] <towync> cntb that channel seems dead, everyone says to go there tho =)
[12:28] <_fnord> yeah xgls been dead alot today,but wait around and youll probly get an answer
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> will  Upgrading using apt-get
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> seems the only path available
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> towync channel alive
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> patience
[12:30] <_fnord> Captain_Haddock: im guesseing thats not the same procedure for seting it up on 5.10
[12:30] <upd-dapper2edgy> !patience
[12:30] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:31] <OOD> how do you search for packages with apt-get ?
[12:32] <OOD> nevermind, found out how (quick google :P)
[12:41] <upd-dapper2edgy> OOD, sudo apt-cache search
[12:45] <Ashex> I'm having issues getting kubuntu to boot up.
[12:45] <Ashex> Recently it began to randomly reboot while i was logged in. Now it freezes while kubuntu is loading
[12:46] <Ashex> and when it does load and I enter my login info, it reboots as soon as i'm logged in
[12:46] <Ashex> any ideas on what may be causing this?
[12:48] <premier> hey matthew__, you there?
[12:48] <premier> I swapped the capslock and backspace keys on my keyboard, but I cant make it perminant
[12:51] <zach_> hm...I just installed kubuntu on my pc cuz my xp pro messed itself up...what is this thing?
[12:51] <matthew__> I'm sorry, Matthew is not available right now. Please leave a message after the beep.
[12:54] <Whopper> zach_: an operating system
[12:56] <zach_> I know that its an os, I just was figuring out what konversation is...a chatroom appartently
[12:57] <thanos> hi guys
[12:57] <Blizzzek> zach_: it is an irc client...
[12:57] <matthew__> irc = internet relay chat
[12:57] <thanos> i think that kde is faster than gnome i have this feeling
 how long have you been using kubuntu?
[12:58] <_fnord> since i woke up yesterday morning,i think ive been useing it in my sleep telpathicly...
[01:00] <matthew__> Ok I'm back...
[01:02] <Whopper> zach_: about a month
[01:02] <Whopper> i switched from windows xp home
[01:03] <semsettin> hallo
[01:03] <Whopper> hey
[01:03] <semsettin> how are you
[01:03] <zach_> so, do you all have a bit of progamming experience then?
[01:03] <Whopper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konversation
[01:03] <Whopper> well...
[01:04] <Whopper> i do KNOW some python, a just a bit of perl needed to configure irssi
[01:04] <semsettin> :)
[01:04] <Whopper> semsettin: good :)
[01:04] <Whopper> you?
[01:04] <semsettin> thanks
[01:04] <semsettin> me too
[01:05] <semsettin> ok se you later
[01:05] <semsettin> bye
[01:05] <zach_> I dont really know any programming languages, but I think I'm going to continue my networking minor
[01:06] <Whopper> ah
[01:06] <Whopper> zach_: there are good terminal programs you can help to do work on
[01:06] <premier> hey matthew__: I swapped capslock and backspace, but I cant make the changes perminant
[01:07] <matthew__> premier, let me look around, brb
[01:07] <zach_> cool, I'm going to work on all this stuff since I have a ton of free time on break right now and unfortunately no job
[01:08] <Whopper> ah
[01:08] <zach_> I had this urge to try and be like (a/s/l) like the little kids on aol used to do, haha
[01:08] <Whopper> so...
[01:08] <Whopper> :P
[01:08] <Whopper> did you use shipit?
[01:08] <premier> btw, I was thinking of rewriting the kclockapplet (the one on the right of the kicker) to do some cool things like show decimal time.  How is that done?
[01:10] <niblets> How can I get my iPod to work on kubuntu edgy?
[01:10] <niblets> A new xmas gift, and I cant use it D=
[01:10] <ForgeAus> hey all Merry Christmas!
[01:10] <cloakable> niblets: plug it in with amarok running :)
[01:10] <Whopper> any a happy new year :P
[01:10] <niblets> I have
[01:11] <ForgeAus> lol Whopper I usually say seasons greetingz and all that jazz
[01:11] <niblets> it didnt auto-run anything, if it was supposed to
[01:11] <cloakable> Ahhh
[01:11] <niblets> Does it have to be open, or can it be in suystem tray?
[01:11] <premier> yeah, in my experience, linux actually mounted it as a external hard drive.  I could even copy off the songs
[01:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> why in Konqueror when I look in the root directory I can't see /bin or any of those?
[01:12] <niblets> is there anyway to mount it?
[01:12] <matthew__> premier, the following command will open up your keymap...you might be able to change some of the keys...not too sure though...
[01:12] <matthew__> lkl -l -k /usr/share/lkl/keymaps/us_km -o log.txt
[01:13] <ForgeAus> well I managed to screw up my kubuntu, but I'm going to reinstall it
[01:14] <Whopper> :P
[01:14] <niblets> Damn this christmas
[01:14] <niblets> iPod = best gift ever = not usable
[01:14] <Whopper> :(
[01:14] <niblets> and windows doesnt have access to my 12gb music GAR
[01:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets, I just installed an ipod shuffle on edgy
[01:14] <zach_> so if the ipod is used as an external hd according to this os, can I put all my music back on my computer w/o having to swap my hd into a windows computer and that jazz?
[01:14] <premier> wait, matthew, I got the key swap to work fine, I just want to make the changes perminant
[01:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- are you using amarok?
[01:14] <premier> how do you spell that word?
[01:15] <matthew__> premier, oh...ok...h/o
[01:15] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_
[01:15] <niblets> Indeed
[01:15] <matthew__> premier, permanent
[01:15] <Whopper> zach_: I believe so
[01:15] <premier> okay
[01:15] <zach_> sweetness then
[01:15] <niblets> but when I go to media device, I dont know what to put for the mount and unmount commands
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> you don't need to do that
[01:16] <premier> I was told that If i put a line in /home/premier/.XSession it will do it every boot, but it doesnt
[01:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> one sec
[01:16] <niblets> kk
[01:16] <matthew__> premier, I'm not finding anything...sorry
[01:16] <premier> I was told that If i put a line in /home/premier/.XSession it will do it every boot, but it doesnt
[01:17] <adz21c> Hi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?
[01:19] <niblets> -tear-
[01:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- is your ipod connected to your computer? does it not show up in amarok's 'media device' tab?
[01:20] <niblets> It is connected, and it is charging, but on the media device tab, I see " configure your media device the click the 'connect' tab to access your media device
[01:20] <niblets> "
[01:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> under where it says 'connect, disconnect' and all that, there is a dropdown menu. Is there anything under that menu?
[01:21] <dropsl> hi there
[01:21] <niblets> it says no device available
[01:21] <niblets> I will unmount the iPod then connect it again
[01:21] <niblets> what is the unmount command?
[01:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok- go to settings-- configure amarok, then click on the tab 'media devices'
[01:22] <niblets> kk
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> you don't need to worry about mounting or unmounting
[01:22] <niblets> add device? or autofind?
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> try autofind
[01:22] <dropsl> suddenly, kpowersave said dbus is not running i should start it. but it is started. kpowersave does not show any options it is also greyed out in my systray :( i dont know how i can resolve this... may somebody help me? (i am using kubuntu 6.10) (also i have some problems with usb devices right now, they dont eject properly (die data gets lost))
[01:23] <dropsl> die = the
[01:24] <dropsl> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start  says this: acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[01:24] <niblets> any ideas what to do next?
[01:25] <dropsl> but "sudo lsof |grep "/proc/acpi/event""   says this: "hald-addo 2104  haldaemon    4r      REG        0,3        0<PHONE_NUMBER> /proc/acpi/event" does it help anyone to identify the problem?
[01:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets, did it detect the ipod
[01:25] <niblets> nope
[01:25] <niblets> "No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window."
[01:25] <niblets> is what I got
[01:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> dropsl- try ps -e | grep dbus, and kill the processes
[01:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- but your ipod is mounted? try unplugging it then plugging it back in
[01:27] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: done
[01:27] <niblets> it says do not disconnect,
[01:27] <niblets> does it matter? its empty and brand new
[01:27] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: should i restart it now?
[01:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> dropsl- yes
[01:28] <niblets> done
[01:28] <niblets> didnt come up with anything again. Should I konsole mount it?
[01:28] <niblets> actually, hang on
[01:28] <niblets> I'll try a port on the back
[01:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> I sent you a message, niblets
[01:29] <me_> ok
[01:29] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ what you mean?
[01:29] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: it does not fix the problem :(
[01:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- if you're using konversation, look to the left and click on my name
[01:30] <me_> haaheey
[01:30] <niblets> I am using it, but it says my messages are blocked I think
[01:30] <niblets> Did you get mine?
[01:31] <niblets> Just let me register, will take but a momenr
[01:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets no- Nickserv register (password) with a / before nickserv
[01:31] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: it does still not work
[01:32] <niblets> I got your message, yes it is connected to the comp, but I dont know where it is mounted, I am a n00b to linux
[01:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> zdogde- did you try ctrl alt backspace, and it still doesn't work?
[01:32] <zdogde> dettoaltrimenti_: yes
[01:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- open konqueror, type in /media, if it's mounted it will be in that folder
[01:33] <zdogde> although knetworkmanager is working... the problem lies in acpid i think. it does not start....
[01:33] <nyapo> Bonsoir, ou Bonjour ^^ Joyeux noel
[01:34] <niblets> ohk
[01:34] <nyapo> quelqu'un pourrait m'apporter son aide?
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> !fr
[01:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <niblets> I got cdrom, hda1 and hdb2
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> hmmm zdogde... is acpid not running? ps -e | grep acp
[01:35] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ I got Cdrom, HDA and HDB
[01:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets ok you need to mount the ipod- does it show up on your desktop?
[01:35] <zdogde> dettoaltrimenti_: "   17 ?        00:00:00 kacpid" and " 2104 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi"
[01:35] <niblets> nope, I turned off desktop icons
[01:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> acpid is running zdogde
[01:35] <zdogde> dettoaltrimenti_: but why did kpowersave stopped working?
[01:37] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ It isnt, I turned off desktop icons, what is the mount command for it?
[01:37] <niblets> or, how do I mount it/
[01:37] <NyaPO> i have a bug with fglrx, there are OK in root mode, but not installer ( fglrxinfo ) in user mode, but i do as the documentation
[01:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets look in konqueror- in /mnt, see if it's in there
[01:37] <niblets> samba and public
[01:37] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ samba and public
[01:39] <niblets>  dettoaltrimenti_ its not in there
[01:40] <carlos> hello
[01:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets look in /dev
[01:40] <carlos> some one now about the kubuntu password
[01:40] <niblets> there is a lot, what would it be called? dettoaltrimenti_
[01:41] <carlos> wen i try to download the update need one password administrator
[01:41] <carlos> and a don't now the password
[01:41] <niblets> password should be your password for that user
[01:41] <niblets> carlos password should be your password for that use
[01:41] <carlos> i try but no work
[01:42] <carlos> i put the passwor is alondra
[01:42] <carlos> i can open session with this user: carlos pasword: alondra
[01:42] <carlos> but i can't download updates
[01:43] <niblets> carlos: then I don't know, I havent come across this problem before, so I can't help you, sorry
[01:43] <niblets> someone else should be able to
[01:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets sorry I'm not the best with linux, trying to help- my ipod mounts automatically.... I can't remember where unmounted drives show up, besides the desktop
[01:43] <carlos> ok
[01:43] <carlos> i will find more khelp\
[01:44] <adz21c> Hi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?
[01:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos how are you downloading the update
[01:44] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ s'okay. any help is good. I can't find it, and windows cant access my music, just sucks a bit. I will try restarting session with it plugged in, see if it works
[01:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> in the terminal, or adept?
[01:45] <carlos> there are 60 update packages
[01:45] <carlos> in my kubuntu in the bar
[01:46] <carlos> when i try to open
[01:46] <niblets> didnt help D=
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- look in /dev for ipod
[01:46] <carlos> to update o download the 60 updates files need put the password
[01:46] <niblets> kk
[01:47] <niblets> nope
[01:47] <niblets> not there
[01:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos go to the k-menu and go to system----adept and start that.... does your password work to open adept?
[01:48] <carlos> Adept Updater
[01:48] <carlos> is the program
[01:49] <carlos> yessss
[01:49] <carlos> work
[01:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos ok you should be able to update using that program
[01:49] <carlos> tank's
[01:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> be sure to click "fetch updates" before you update, carlos
[01:50] <carlos> ok
[01:50] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ thanks for the help, but its not in /media /dev or /mnt
[01:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- unmounted drives are somewhere in the /dev folder... if you can find which is the ipod you can do sudo mount /dev/ipod(or whatever it is) /media/ipod
[01:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets it may be called sdc or sdb or usbdrive or something like that
[01:51] <matthias> hi, my gnome is not the standard start and login screen, after installing kubuntu, kubuntu is it. how can I set gnome as standard login theme again?
[01:51] <niblets> ohk, will look again
[01:51] <niblets> apart from the name, should there be anything inside that gives it away?
[01:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets not that I see, I'll check around though
[01:52] <soulrider> hi
[01:52] <soulrider> has anyone here ever set up a TV ?
[01:53] <niblets> inside "bus" there was "usb" would that be it?
[01:54] <niblets> nvm, it isnt
[01:56] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ Nothing I can find that would be it
[01:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- if you have a windows machine, try installing it in windows and it will reformat the drive, and then try it in linux
[01:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- because kubuntu should automatically recognize it
[01:57] <niblets> so log in on window? then get it workuing,thenb ack to linux to put music on it?
[01:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah
[01:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> that's what I did, and it worked with no problems
[01:57] <niblets> kk, be back in 20
[01:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> maybe it comes set up for mac
[02:00] <_fnord> how do i uninstall cups?
[02:00] <_fnord> sudo apt-get.....
[02:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> _fnord just use adept
[02:02] <carlos> hi i try to install one web camara usb but no work
[02:02] <carlos> kubuntu is plug an play
[02:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos are you spanish
[02:02] <carlos> yes
[02:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:02] <carlos> si
[02:03] <carlos> gracias
[02:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> si es mejor por ti... de nada
[02:10] <soulrider> anyone here ?
[02:16] <hackeron_> hey, when I try to apt-get install kdebase-dev I get kdebase-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3) but it is not going to be installed -- any ideas?
[02:17] <adz21c> Hi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?
[02:18] <adz21c> when i say it stops working i mean connection sharing
[02:18] <bbt> how do i force the removal of a package via dpkg? i got one that just will not remove with adept
[02:19] <hackeron_> adz21c: to share your internet connection, you generally need to things, ipforward=1 in /proc (see sysctl -a), and ipconfig set to ipmasquerading and that's what guarddog sets when you start it
[02:19] <hackeron_> adz21c: s/to/two*
[02:20] <adz21c> hackeron_: i was under the impression that i shouldn't need to do this each time PC starts, it sets it all up for boot
[02:22] <|lostbyte|> Hi :) Guys..
[02:24] <hackeron_> adz21c: you can make it start on boot - you could for example put ipforward=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and iptables -A nat -t tcp -j MASQ (not sure about the iptables command, google it) in /etc/rc.local -- or use some method to get guardog started when KDE starts -- ask the guarddog people
[02:25] <adz21c> hackeron_: no i know that ... i mean i was under the impression that guarddog and guidedog set up all the files to it runs all the appropriate iptables commands
[02:26] <endo602> Good Evening.  Happy Holidays.  How can i turn my user account into root?
[02:28] <hackeron_> adz21c: don't know what to tell you, I personally use shorewall (no fancy gui but relatively easy to work with), I also don't like a gui because you generally need to be logged in for it to do it's magic and it doesn't really do it on boot
[02:28] <brianw> is there a cd label anywhere for kubuntu-6.10 ?
[02:29] <brianw> I want to tyr my lacie lightscribe software
[02:29] <adz21c> hackeron_: u don't need to be logged in for guarddog ... its just executes a load of iptable commands thats it it shouldn't need to run again unless you want to make rule changes .... i was also under the impression though that it would create some scripts to be run at system boot to handle this, but either something else is interfearing or it doesn't
[02:31] <endo602> How do i make it so that my user account has root access?
[02:32] <hackeron_> adz21c: there's no standard in linux for where to put those commands to start on boot, maybe they were put in /etc/local.start or /etc/conf.d/local.start or /dev/default/rc.local, etc instead of /etc/rc.local?
[02:32] <apokryphos> endo602: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:33] <endo602> apokryphos, thanks
[02:33] <adz21c> hackeron_: well there is an /etc/rc.firewall file which seems to contain the rules and /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog if that makes any sense to u?
[02:34] <adz21c> hackeron_: is S65guarddog a service type thing?
[02:34] <hackeron_> adz21c: yeah, link /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog to every runlevel
[02:35] <Murrlin> how would I fix a stuck app, without deleting its config file?
[02:35] <brianw> I wonder why distro makers do not release cd label images w/ their releases...
[02:35] <hackeron_> adz21c: i.e. ln -s /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog /etc/rc1.d/S65guarddog -- then replace the 1 with 2, then 3.. up to 5
[02:36] <adz21c> hackeron_: i notice under system settings -> services it has guarddog, i assume by setting that to start at boot it puts it on the appropriate run levels?
[02:36] <hackeron_> adz21c: yeah, or you can do that :)
[02:36] <adz21c> hackeron_: oh ok got ya
[02:36] <adz21c> hackeron_: so does the number in the rc's represent the run level number?
[02:40] <brianw> Any one w/ any decent gimp skill care to make a quick reproduction of this: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1113
[02:40] <brianw> heh
[02:41] <hackeron_> adz21c: yep
[02:41] <adz21c> hackeron_: always wondered what the numbers were bout lol kinda obvious lol
[02:42] <hackeron_> adz21c: :)
[02:42] <adz21c> hackeron_: cheers for the help
[02:43] <hackeron_> any time
[02:43] <hackeron_> ok, ktorrent compiled, I'm off to sleep, night night everyone!
[02:43] <adz21c> g'night
[02:47] <dwassem> hey guys
[02:47] <Search4Lancer> how can I do automatic file uploads at given intervals?
[02:47] <dwassem> is this a good place to ask a question? :)
[02:47] <Search4Lancer> say... every 10 minutes, for a channel stats file
[02:48] <Xubuntian> guys, i have a little problem.. I have to configure my daddy's new printer for tomorrow, but i need to update the system in order to make it work. However, when i plugged the network card in the PCMCIA nothing happened..
[02:48] <Xubuntian> in my laptop instead, as soon as i plug it in, it start working immediatly
[02:49] <dwassem> whats the XGL channel?, got a question
[02:50] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-xgl
[02:50] <dwassem> ah got it #ubuntu-xgl
[02:56] <ultrakiller> ciao a tutti
[02:57] <lupine_85> ciao
[02:57] <lupine_85> !it
[02:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:58] <ultrakiller> excuse me
[03:08] <Thehound666> being a fan of the Bit Torrent protocol, I was curious as to how you guys keep so many people seeding on the distro downloads when you don't track ratio
[03:09] <lupine_85> Thehound666: we're all altruistic :op
[03:09] <max_> Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?
[03:10] <Thehound666> I guess so. for the record, I did my first .iso that way and seeded it 1:1
[03:10] <Thehound666> <--doesn't like leechers, thus wouldn't be one
[03:13] <makuseru> Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?
[03:16] <Thehound666> did the live CD and the initial install do ok for sound?
[03:17] <Search4Lancer> how can I do automatic file uploads at given intervals?
[03:17] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: scp or sftp + cron ?
[03:18] <lupine_85> (or + sleep of course :) )
[03:18] <niblets> worked on windows, dettoaltrimenti_
[03:18] <Thehound666> try the obvious maybe. Try system settings->Sound system, then the hardware tab.
[03:19] <Search4Lancer> lupine_85: I have no idea what you just said ;-) it's for a channel stats page, the stats program is cronning every 10 minutes, and outputs to a file in a folder on my desktop... I'd like something to automatically upload that every 10 minutes
[03:19] <Thehound666> make sure it's set to autodetect
[03:19] <makuseru> it is
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: type: groups yourusername
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: and check if you are in a group called "audio"
[03:20] <makuseru> yes
[03:20] <makuseru> it just stopped working
[03:20] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: so you've already got the cronjob
[03:20] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: so are you?
[03:20] <makuseru> i was palying a video and it stopped
[03:20] <lupine_85> change it to execute a script that looks a little bit like...
[03:20] <makuseru> i said yes
[03:20] <Search4Lancer> lupine_85: for running the stats program, yes
[03:21] <lupine_85> #!/bin/sh \n do_that_stats_program \n sftp -b - < "commands_to_be_fed_to_sftp" \n exit 0
[03:21] <lupine_85> \n == newline
[03:22] <Search4Lancer> now you've just confused the heck out of me
[03:22] <lupine_85> sftp lets you upload stuff via. ssh; -b is batch mode;  "commands_to_be_fed_to_sftp" will be something like "cd somewhere; put file"
[03:22] <niblets> anyone know how to get iPod working with Amarok?
[03:22] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: I'm not entirely sure how to make it any simpler
[03:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: what is it that doesn't work?
[03:23] <niblets> doesn't find the iPod
[03:23] <niblets> the comp doesnt
[03:23] <Search4Lancer> let's say the ftp username is username, and the password is password, and the server is ftp.4lancer.net, and the target file is /public_html/stats/index.html ..... what would that look like?
[03:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: settings -> configure -> media devices
[03:23] <niblets> done that
[03:23] <niblets> couldnt find it
[03:23] <lupine_85> for a start, you wouldn't use password authentication for a cronjob. that would be silly
[03:23] <Thehound666> they do that to all (K)ubuntu newbies I think(know first hand) but they do get things done, I thought my mouse issue today would stump them as alot of forums seemed to have no answers
[03:23] <niblets> I don;t know the mount point
[03:23] <Thehound666> solved it in 10 minutes
[03:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: does it automount when you plug it in?
[03:24] <Search4Lancer> well then we wouldn't be able to connect to the server
[03:24] <niblets> nope
[03:24] <lupine_85> Use public-key authentication instead; then you don't need to feed it a username or password
[03:24] <lupine_85> if you don't, then while the cronjob is running your password will be visible to everyone using the client PC...
[03:24] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: hrmz... and if you try to mount it manually?
[03:24] <niblets> I dont know how
[03:25] <Search4Lancer> I'm the only one that uses this laptop... nobody else is allowed.... it's heavily protected ;-)
[03:25] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: type: sudo mount
[03:25] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: and paste me  the output in a private query
[03:25] <makuseru> well, i restarted and my sound is fine now
[03:25] <niblets> there is about 12 lines
[03:26] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: that's why you should paste it to me in a private query ;)
[03:26] <makuseru> !pastebin | niblets\
[03:26] <ubotu> niblets\: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <makuseru> !pastebin | niblets
[03:26] <ubotu> niblets: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <niblets> I cant
[03:26] <niblets> not registered
[03:27] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: then you'd put the username & password separated by newlines at the start of -b. I think.
[03:27] <makuseru> !pastebin | niblets
[03:27] <niblets> ohk ohk
[03:27] <lupine_85> I'v enever used password-based authentication with sftp so I'm not sure if that'd work
[03:27] <niblets> I get it
[03:27] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: well either use a pastebin or query it to me...
[03:27] <niblets> hang on, christmas meal, will paste it and then come on again later.
[03:28] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I will probably be off by then.. but good luck
[03:28] <niblets> cheers
[03:29] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38728/
[03:29] <makuseru> is there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition
[03:29] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: various partition managers....
[03:29] <lupine_85> makuseru: ntfsresize, ext2resize, etc...
[03:29] <lupine_85> quite a delicate operation though
[03:30] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: if you want something with a GUI there is one called portos
[03:30] <makuseru> would i be able to keep my root partition? or would i have to wipe it clean
[03:31] <triki> anyone here get bluetooth working ?
[03:31] <triki> i can copy from my phone to my laptop, but no the other way around ?
[03:31] <_fnord> makuseru: livecd + gparted
[03:32] <makuseru> fnord: i dont want to get rid of anything, im just trying to merge them
[03:32] <flaccid_> _fnord: qtparted
[03:32] <makuseru> fnord: because i dont want to loose all my music and settings
[03:33] <triki> !bluetooth
[03:33] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:34] <xenol> plz can someone tell me how cna i change icon of single file?
[03:34] <Thehound666> The Kubuntu manual partition creator lets you size all the partitions manually and resize them while keeping your data. I had Partition Magic on standby to resize them, but it turned out I never needed it
[03:34] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... does anyone here have experience with the grub conf file? I want to get rid of the white frame that surrounds the options in the grub menu on boot...
[03:35] <karmikaze> xenol: right click the icon, do properties, then click the icon in properties to change it
[03:35] <Thehound666> never played with grub yet.
[03:36] <Thehound666> I used NTLoader for my dual boot because I know what I was doing with Windows
[03:36] <Thehound666> :)
[03:36] <flaccid_> grub manual, #grub, google
[03:36] <flaccid_> all you need
[03:36] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: tried it all
[03:37] <xenol> karmikaze ty
[03:37] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: not sure it's even possible without frambuffer support
[03:37] <Thehound666> don't need to play with it myself, seems like Redbeard wants to eliminate a cosmetic annoyance
[03:37] <flaccid_> i think it is. but yeah probably using framebuffer
[03:38] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: bah so I guess I'm in for a "pimp my grub" session of some good 5 hours now then :p
[03:38] <prak> when i opened wireless assistant wireless lan manager in kubuntu, it gives me an error message saying "su returned with an error"
[03:39] <prak> does anyone know if that problem can be fixed by reinstalling that program?
[03:39] <xenol> karmikaze and how can i change target of folder?
[03:39] <karmikaze> target?
[03:40] <karmikaze> you mean where it links to?
[03:40] <xenol> yeah
[03:40] <karmikaze> something on your desktop?
[03:40] <xenol> y
[03:41] <flaccid_> Captain_Redbeard: heheh sounds bout right
[03:41] <karmikaze> well for a desktop icon id just drag the right one onto the desktop
[03:41] <karmikaze> there is a command to make a link
[03:41] <karmikaze> ln -s /whateverdir/youwant /home/yourusername/Desktop
[03:41] <karmikaze> thatll make a new link
[03:41] <xenol> karmikaze thx i just now got a perfect idea :P
[03:41] <karmikaze> ok
[03:41] <karmikaze> heh
[03:44] <karmikaze> mmm corona
[03:44] <flaccid_> nice
[03:44] <xenol> karmiakze can u post screen of ur desktop (ofc if u can)
[03:45] <DyF|heliopolix> I've taken the plunge and am attempting to become more familiar with Linux, specifically Kubuntu. I figure this is as good a place as any to get flamed properly so i can move past my n00b status and actually learn some stuff.
[03:46] <flaccid_> sweet as heliopolix
[03:47] <Captain_Redbeard> hmm further on then... anyone knowing anything useful about grub2? if it's usable and so forth...
[03:47] <xenol> grub2?
[03:48] <flaccid_> yeah grub is now legacy
[03:48] <prak> does anyone encounter an error with using sudo before?
[03:48] <flaccid_> but yeah i don't know how stable grub2 is
[03:48] <heliopolix> anyways, what Im attempting to do is get this belkin usb key to work with the install of dapper drake im running. I found a fairly detailed explanation, but all the commands mean jack shit to me. anyone willing to help me out
[03:48] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: do you have any experience with it?
[03:48] <flaccid_> heliopolix: learn the commands :)
[03:48] <flaccid_> Captain_Redbeard: none sorry
[03:48] <flaccid_> but i'd try it in your situation
[03:48] <xenol> so grub is usable only it  can be unstable?
[03:49] <flaccid_> heliopolix: if its a usb drive (mass storage), kubuntu supports natively
[03:49] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: ofc! :D i'm on a spree here... so I guess I will have to fuck my system up before I'm done ;) it seems fairly stable though... version 1.95
[03:49] <flaccid_> xenol: no grub2 might be unstable, grub(1) should be pretty damn stable
[03:49] <heliopolix> er, forgot to be more specific. usb wireless key, for networking
[03:50] <heliopolix> and i suppose i need to find a channel more on my level. basic commands escape me at this point
[03:50] <xenol> any ETA when GRUB2 will be released?
[03:50] <flaccid_> heliopolix: on you mean wireless usb adaptor. belkin are bad for that, particularly on linux. read the howtos
[03:50] <flaccid_> heliopolix: why do basic commands escape you? we can help to make you understand and execute the commands
[03:50] <Captain_Redbeard> xenol: the website says november - but I highly doubt it ;))
[03:51] <Captain_Redbeard> http://grub.enbug.org/
[03:51] <xenol> november 2007?
[03:51] <xenol> or 2006
[03:51] <Search4Lancer> alright, I tried this (after perusing the wget manual) and in the console it appears to work, but when I try to access the file online, it's still an old version:
[03:51] <Search4Lancer> wget --post-file /home/redphoenix/Desktop/ircstat/index.html<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:51] <xenol> well 2006 is impossible :D
[03:52] <Captain_Redbeard> exactly ;) it does, however, state 06...
[03:52] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm
[03:52] <Captain_Redbeard> it supports multiboot... thus you can boot grub2 from grub legacy just to try it... awesome
[03:52] <heliopolix> heh, i've sort of figured out how to use sudo to try to run things as the local admin. I've been trying to follow the directions here : http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html, but i'm missing something
[03:53] <flaccid_> that sounds good cap'n
[03:54] <heliopolix> i downloaded the drivers, and have been trying to get them to compile, but cant get the syntax right
[03:54] <flaccid_> heliopolix: are you using your password and not the root password when doing sudo command
[03:54] <flaccid_> heliopolix: pastebin the error
[03:55] <heliopolix> in the Konsole, I use the sudo -s command, and input the password, and the promt changes to 'root@' so i think im doing it right
[03:56] <towync> how do i get rid off kmenu button and the panel bar that displays the kmenu button
[03:56] <towync> and replace it with mac style tool bar at bottom of screen
[03:57] <towync> i know kxdocker doesn't work for me, so i tried kooldock, how do i make comp start with kooldock and no normal bottom panel
[03:57] <flaccid_> heliopolix: don't use -s
[03:57] <flaccid_> for eg. sudo updatedb
[03:58] <prak> does anyone encounter an error with using su before?
[03:58] <prak> does anyone encounter an error with using su or sudo before?
[03:58] <flaccid_> towync: try asking in #kde
[03:58] <flaccid_> prak nope why
[03:59] <towync> is that a channel or do u need ubuntu before it
[03:59] <prak> flaccid_, su is giving me an error saying that something is wrong with sudoer
[03:59] <flaccid_> its a channel towync
[04:00] <Search4Lancer> anybody, I'm having wget problems...
[04:00] <flaccid_> prak: what is the error
[04:00] <towync> by the way how do i make my own wallpaper and stuff, i don't like other peoples that i find online =)
[04:00] <thoreauputic> !sudo | prak
[04:00] <ubotu> prak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:00] <towync> flaccid_ do you need #ubuntu before typing kde?
[04:00] <flaccid_> !gimp > towync
[04:00] <flaccid_> towync: no
[04:00] <towync> !gimp | towync
[04:00] <ubotu> towync: An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:00] <prak> flaccid_, for example, when i typed "sudo apt-get update", terminal gives me "sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers
[04:00] <prak> near line 0
[04:00] <towync> ughhhh more tutorials to read... lol
[04:00] <thoreauputic> prak: have you edited /etc/sudoers?
[04:00] <flaccid_> prak: pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[04:01] <_fnord> is there a all in one theme program,like windowblinds?
[04:01] <Captain_Redbeard>  http://grub.enbug.org/gfxterm
[04:01] <Captain_Redbeard> W000t!!
[04:01] <_fnord> Captain_Redbeard: is that for me?
[04:01] <prak> thoreauputic: i haven't edited /etc/sudoers to my knowledge
[04:02] <flaccid_> w0a ruby Captain_Redbeard interesting
[04:02] <_fnord> postbin it anyways,thats whats causeing the error
[04:02] <towync> does kxdocker work with edgy?
[04:02] <Captain_Redbeard> looks really sweet to be honest...
[04:02] <flaccid_> towync: yep
[04:02] <thoreauputic> prak: pastebin it as flaccid_ suggests
[04:02] <prak> thoreauputic: how do i pastebin my /etc/sudoers?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !paste
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:02] <prak> thoreauputic: is there another site?
[04:02] <Captain_Redbeard> the documentation on grub2 is very sporadical though
[04:03] <_fnord> you can also use #flood
[04:03] <thoreauputic> prak: there are lots of pastebin sites - we normally use that one
[04:03] <flaccid_> towync: although i'm on edgy and i'm didn't load just then when i tried
[04:03] <prak> thoreauputic: sudoers file is empty
[04:03] <thoreauputic> prak: :(
[04:03] <prak> thoreauputic: i'm not sure what caused it
[04:04] <_fnord> lol that might have something to do with  me thinks...
[04:04] <thoreauputic> prak: are you certain that it is empty?
[04:04] <prak> it is empty
[04:04] <prak> thoreauputic
[04:05] <_fnord> wierd
[04:05] <thoreauputic> prak:  you have a ctach 22 then - you can't edit it without sudo or root rights - you will have to use the recovery mode to get a root prompt
[04:05] <thoreauputic> *catch 22
[04:05] <prak> ok
[04:05] <prak> thoreauputic: and then edit that file?
[04:05] <flaccid_> prak: reinstall sudo package
[04:05] <thoreauputic> prak: use "visudo" to edit it
[04:06] <thoreauputic> ah yes -= flaccid's idea is way easier
[04:06] <towync> flaccid_ so did kxdocker work on ur edgy?
[04:06] <heliopolix> the problem occurs when i try to run the 'make' command. the error is "bash: make: command not found"
[04:06] <prak> flaccid_, do i reinstall sudo package in recovery mode?
[04:06] <flaccid_> towync: no but it could be my problem
[04:06] <_fnord> thoreauputic: whats your name mean>?
[04:06] <flaccid_> prak: did you ever set a root password?
[04:06] <towync> flaccid_ cool, did u tell me to go to kde channel earlier =)
[04:06] <thoreauputic> prak: so boot to recovey/rescue . apt-get install sudo
[04:06] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[04:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:06] <flaccid_> towync: probably
[04:06] <thoreauputic> bah
[04:06] <towync> flaccid_ someone did, and now someone in kde channel refers me back here lol
[04:06] <thoreauputic> !info sudo
[04:06] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[04:07] <thoreauputic> OK it has its own package
[04:07] <towync> !gentoo
[04:07] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:07] <prak> thoreauptic, ok
[04:07] <flaccid_> towync: well you should be able to disable the panel regardless of distro..
[04:07] <thoreauputic> prak: wait
[04:07] <towync> what's the relationship between debian and kde, i know kde uses debian
[04:07] <flaccid_> towync: no real relationship
[04:07] <towync> flaccid_ cool
[04:07] <thoreauputic> too late, I wanted to see if it was already installed...
[04:07] <_fnord> kde is based on deb i think
[04:08] <flaccid_> _fnord: negative
[04:08] <triki> huh
[04:08] <triki> debian is debian
[04:08] <towync> flaccid_ i guess my real question is what's debian =)
[04:08] <triki> kde is and gnome and desktop guis
[04:08] <Search4Lancer> guess it doesn't hurt to ask again.... does anybody know how to do regularly scheduled FTP uploads, or a program that does it?
[04:08] <_fnord> was it suse that im thinking of?
[04:08] <flaccid_> debian is a linux system
[04:08] <triki> debian is a distro
[04:08] <flaccid_> and also a distro
[04:08] <flaccid_> "the debian system" they call it
[04:08] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: make a cron job to do it?
[04:08] <flaccid_> brb
[04:08] <triki> like gentoo, fedora core, slackware and so on
[04:09] <towync> so kubuntu is kde that's debian, and ubuntu is genome that's rpb?
[04:09] <triki> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[04:09] <triki> instead of ubuntu with gnome
[04:09] <towync> and kde is always deb?
[04:09] <Search4Lancer> thoreauputic: I've been trying, but I can't get the wget command to work right. I mean, it looks like it works correctly in the console, but the new file never shows up on the server
[04:09] <triki> xubuntu uses a lighter desktop environment
[04:09] <towync> and gnome is always rpm or something
[04:09] <towync> there's two right, deb and somtehing else
[04:09] <triki> same backend just different interface
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: wget is really a download tool - use ftp or lftp
[04:09] <towync> !backend
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <towync> !frontend
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frontend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <towync> oops
[04:10] <triki> !gui
[04:10] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[04:10] <towync> what's a backend and frontend
[04:10] <triki> !de
[04:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:10] <triki> !kde
[04:10] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:10] <towync> !gnome
[04:10] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:10] <towync> !deb
[04:10] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:10] <towync> ah package format
[04:10] <towync> what's the other one besides deb
[04:10] <triki> ubuntu is based on debian also
[04:11] <triki> hense the use of the deb packages
[04:11] <towync> there's something equivalent to deb right
[04:11] <lupine_85> rpm
[04:11] <Search4Lancer> thoreauputic: okay... I've never used ftp from command line before... how do I do it and how would I do it as a cronjob?
[04:11] <lupine_85> lots of other formats as well
[04:11] <towync> cool
[04:11] <triki> rpm is a redhat thing
[04:11] <towync> ic
[04:11] <lupine_85> deb > rpm
[04:11] <towync> cool
[04:11] <triki> like yum is for fedora
[04:11] <leviatan> hi everyone I need hel with my grub, I've installe kubuntu in my hd1 but in my hd0 I had ubuntu with genome but now when my pc stars an error appears: problem with so
[04:11] <towync> ah ha, so that's what yum is lol
[04:11] <triki> swaret for slack
[04:11] <leviatan> someone could help me?
[04:11] <towync> what's a backend
[04:11] <leviatan> plz?
[04:12] <towync> we'll try leviatan =)
[04:12] <towync> what's ur question
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: heh - that's a whole howto - but basically , say lftp user@host , log in do your stuff - get to download, "put" to upload
[04:12] <towync> i'm a new linux user myself, but i'm sure other people can help
[04:12] <flaccid_> towync: kde is available in many package formats as well as source
[04:12] <triki> what i meant by backend, was the same services were running on ubuntu, kubuntu, just diffnerent user interfaces
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: you need to read about ftp a bit I think
[04:12] <flaccid_> linux and unix
[04:13] <towync> flaccid_ cool thx =)
[04:13] <Search4Lancer> bah... where's the fun in that? :-D
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: I suggest lftp - it is a better prog than straight ftp
[04:13] <towync> triki thx
[04:13] <triki> np
[04:13] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: you need cli ftp?
[04:13] <flaccid_> kubuntu just have different desktop environments and default applications/packages from the ubuntu repos
[04:13] <flaccid_> np
[04:13] <Search4Lancer> unix_infidel: say what now?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: have a look at the manual - man lftp ( you will probably need to install it)
[04:13] <flaccid_> ^^ kubuntu and ubuntu  jusst have..
[04:13] <thoreauputic> !info lftp
[04:13] <ubotu> lftp: Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 349 kB, installed size 1364 kB
[04:13] <towync> oo, do u guys know a better place than kde-look to look for great wall papers? i don't like the hundreds that i've seen so far, and don't really wanna read a whole gimp tutorial to make my own lol
[04:14] <triki> www.devianart.com
[04:14] <karmikaze> towync: deviantart.com
[04:14] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: cli ftp means you'd use it within Konsole, you can also use a GUI ftp client like filezilla, smartftp, cuteftp etc etc
[04:14] <triki> www.deviantart.com
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: do you have ssh access?  scp is much eaaierfor this kind of thing
[04:14] <flaccid_> devianart ist good
[04:14] <towync> karmikaze thx so much =)
[04:14] <karmikaze> its got some stuff
[04:14] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: konqueror can also do ftp similar to windows explorer.
[04:14] <towync> karmikaze cool, i'm checking it out
[04:14] <towync> thx triki too =)
[04:14] <Search4Lancer> unix_infidel: what I need is automated uploads every 10 minutes
[04:14] <leviatan> ok thanks my question y what can I do for fix that error, because I have to insert the cd live
[04:14] <karmikaze> its as hit or miss as kdelook anyway
[04:14] <thoreauputic> unix_infidel: he wants to have regi=ular uploads ( cron)
[04:14] <unix_infidel> if you are looking to communicate b/w a windows box and a linux box, winscp is a good windows client and is much easier connectivity.
[04:14] <thoreauputic> *regular
[04:15] <leviatan> to enter to the grub menu
[04:15] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: then wouldnt make sense to have a permanent network socket established?
[04:15] <unix_infidel> using samba or NFS?
[04:15] <towync> !grub
[04:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:15] <Search4Lancer> if I had the slightest idea what that was, maybe
[04:15] <thoreauputic> unix_infidel: umm - nfs or samba over the Net? Not a Good Thing (tm)
[04:16] <unix_infidel> thoreauputic: i didnt know that this was internet connectivity.
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: is this a local LAN thing or a server "out there" ?
[04:16] <towync> leviatan what was ur question, i scrolled up a little, but i only saw u stating something about inserting live cd
[04:16] <Search4Lancer> thoreauputic: "out there"
[04:16] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: what are you trying to sync up exactly?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: ssh/scp is a better idea if the server supports it
[04:17] <unix_infidel> maybe rsync is for you?
[04:17] <lupine_85> sftp -b ftw, but never mind :)
[04:17] <Search4Lancer> unix_infidel: channel stats - see http://stats.4lancer.net
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lupine_85: yes, or sftp - but scp is fine too
[04:17] <towync> that stuff is deviant alright lol
[04:18] <triki> filezilla + sftp
[04:18] <leviatan> the problem is that I had ubuntu in my hd0 and I have installed kubuntu in my hd1 but there is a problem with the grub that I need to insert the live cd to star a operative system (ubuntu, kubuntu or windows)
[04:18] <triki> that cool stuff too !!!
[04:18] <triki> sshfs
[04:19] <thoreauputic> triki: he wants to do it automatically every ten minutes
[04:19] <ubuntu> !grub
[04:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:19] <triki> thoreauputic: ?? what's going on ?
[04:19] <ubuntu> !botsnack
[04:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:19] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard did you get a chance to look at the pastebin?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> triki: never mind - go back to sleep :)
[04:20] <triki> sure
[04:20] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: any reason why the stats can't be generated on the server...?
[04:21] <Search4Lancer> lupine_85: I'd love to, but I don't have that kind of access, to run the bot and the stats program on the server
[04:21] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: nope sorry
[04:21] <Search4Lancer> it's not mine ;-)
[04:21] <niblets> Could you still now?
[04:21] <lupine_85> ah :)
[04:21] <lupine_85> well, you've been given > 4 solutions now, I think...
[04:21] <ubuntu> how can i install grub 2?
[04:21] <Search4Lancer> none of which I know how to implement :-)
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: does the server run ssh ?
[04:22] <lupine_85> read, wo/man! :p
[04:22] <niblets> Could you still now? Captain_Redbeard
[04:22] <towync> leviatan i've never really tried too much duel booting before, so this might not be that helpful, but did u accidentally set ur comp to only boot from cd drive?
[04:22] <Search4Lancer> poeticputic: not that I know of
[04:22] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I'm a bit busy messing with grub2 and it's gfx options but I can give it a shot
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: from waht you have said, I think you need to do some reading about this before you implement it :)
[04:22] <towync> leviatan i think u can check that by pressing f2 while ur comp restarts, if i'm wrong somebody correct me thx =)
[04:23] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38728/ any help would be great, whatever you can do
[04:23] <ubuntu> how can i install grub 2?
[04:23] <lupine_85> nah, no ssh
[04:23] <thoreauputic> afk
[04:23] <Captain_Redbeard> ubuntu: If you don't know, you shouldn't do it probably ;)
[04:23] <lupine_85> ftp, which is not ideal for this sort of thing
[04:23] <Search4Lancer> my neck hurts from all this
[04:23] <ubuntu> Captin_Redbeard: thats stupid
[04:23] <triki> Captain_Redbeard: gay answer
[04:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: connect your iPod and type: sudo mount /dev/sda1
[04:24] <lupine_85> !grub2
[04:24] <ubotu> grub2: The next generation of GNU GRUB [EXPERIMENTAL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 1.94-3 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 788 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-powerpc any-amd64)
[04:24] <lupine_85> well, it's there
[04:24] <ubuntu> thank you lupine
[04:24] <lupine_85> so I'd imagine you install it and then read the manual
[04:24] <Captain_Redbeard> triki: well would you prefer me helping someone out messing their system up with highly unstable software that wont change anything for them anyway?
[04:24] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard doing now
[04:24] <leviatan> towync thx
[04:24] <triki> point them in the direction of some docs, where there are plenty of
[04:25] <lupine_85> ho hum, you cant feed ftp script files?
[04:25] <lupine_85> let's see...
[04:25] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[04:26] <Captain_Redbeard> triki: well then you could maybe use your time pointing people to what you find appropriate than filling the channel with prepubertal accusations like things being "gay" when they dont match your expectations
[04:26] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: hmm let me see if I can find some docs for you mate
[04:26] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: but read the manpage for lftp. It seems to do everything you want
[04:26] <lupine_85> even has it's own scheduler, it seems
[04:26] <Search4Lancer> oh joy
[04:26] <towync> leviatan np, keep asking if that didn't work out
[04:26] <Search4Lancer> where's it at?
[04:26] <lupine_85> "man lftp"
[04:27] <danny500> does anyone know were I can get Kareoke Downloads?
[04:27] <danny500> #Karaoke
[04:27] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: oh sorry I'm being retarded btw... create a directory where to mount it and try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint
[04:27] <leviatan> the problem Is that my english is not so good jeje but in -es chanel is someone helping me thanks XD
[04:28] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard just a random folder somewhere?
[04:28] <towync> leviatan i guessed u didn't speak english =) but hopefully we can still help
[04:28] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: preferably /media/ipod or something similar
[04:28] <niblets> ohk, where? in my home folder, or ?
[04:29] <leviatan> thanks XD
[04:29] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I found you this: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu guide explaining how to use an ipod with some application named gtkpod, it can easily be switched for amarok
[04:29] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: mkdir /media/ipod
[04:30] <triki> your  ipod doesn't auto mount ?
[04:30] <niblets> Nope it doesnt
[04:30] <niblets> made the folder
[04:30] <triki> weird mine does
[04:30] <towync> triki my ipod shuffle "auto mounts"
[04:30] <niblets> I know it is weird, and I am trying my best to fix it
[04:31] <towync> triki quoted cuz i don't know what auto mount really means but i can open folder right when i plug ipod shuffle in
[04:31] <niblets> With the help of Captain Redbeard
[04:31] <triki> ahhh ok
[04:31] <triki> one sec i'll look for a tut on it
[04:31] <niblets> its mounted
[04:32] <niblets> lets see if it works
[04:32] <niblets> should I be able to access it from Amarok now Captain_Redbeard?
[04:32] <Captain_Redbeard> yup yup
[04:33] <niblets> Wait, it didnt mount. youre command line was wrong, apparently Captain_Redbeard
[04:33] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: what did it return then?
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod
[04:34] <niblets> It said that you didnt specify what sort of mount it was
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: erf...
[04:34] <niblets> Ill pastebin ya
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: type: lsusb
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: does it detect your ipod?
[04:35] <niblets> on command line?
[04:35] <Captain_Redbeard> yah
[04:35] <niblets> it finds apple computer, inc, which I assume is the ipod
[04:35] <niblets> "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05ac:1260 Apple Computer, Inc."
[04:36] <_fnord> mine just pops up as ipod
[04:37] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I'm really sorry mate but I will have to head off to bed... it's 04:36 here and I'm falling asleep... all I can do is direct you to www.google.com
[04:37] <niblets> ohk, sweet as
[04:37] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38730/
[04:37] <niblets> thats the result of the mounting attempt
[04:38] <Search4Lancer> okay.... is it possible to do an upload via lftp in a single command line? such as "lftp -u thisfreakinfile thisfreakinserver" and it does it and then closes
[04:39] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: no idea.
[04:39] <lupine_85> anyway, good luck with it. I'm off to bed
[04:53] <faked_> is there ever going to be higher versions of flash than 7? because like i'll be sittin' around bored and get on addictinggames but i can't play anything because flash doesn't work for half the stuff
[04:54] <faked_> !flash
[04:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:54] <faked_> is there anything useful in there?
[04:57] <notech> if kubuntu doesn't have it, i believe macromedia.org has flash 9 tar.gz. not sure if it's still beta.
[05:01] <notech> nope, wrong site.
[05:01] <notech> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:04] <ubuntu> !grub2
[05:04] <ubotu> grub2: The next generation of GNU GRUB [EXPERIMENTAL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 1.94-3 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 788 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-powerpc any-amd64)
[05:04] <ubuntu> !windows
[05:04] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:05] <zach_> hey, anyone, do you know of a theme that I can download that imitates Mac OSX?
[05:05] <ubuntu> emerald has good osx themes
[05:05] <towync> hi how do i get my kmenu/panel bar back
[05:06] <towync> i clicked hide it and now i can't turn it back on lol
[05:06] <ubuntu> you should have a arrow in the righthand corner of your screen
[05:06] <ubuntu> wherever your pannel was (top or botom)
[05:07] <towync> my panel was on bottom
[05:07] <ubuntu> then bottom right
[05:07] <ubuntu> there should be a grey box with an arrow in it
[05:07] <zach_> ubuntu, could you give me a link to this emerald?
[05:07] <ubuntu> zach: do you use beryl?
[05:08] <zach_> I actually have no idea what that is, I just downloaded kubuntu today, I'm just now playing w/ it
[05:08] <ubuntu> oh
[05:08] <towync> ubuntu thx i think it worked, i never saw the grey box but the thing came back =)
[05:08] <ubuntu> have you seen video where people have theor desktop as a 3D cube?
[05:08] <zach_> no, not really, sorry
[05:08] <towync> i so want beryl
[05:09] <towync> beryl doesn't like me lol =)
[05:09] <zach_> I'm a lil bit of a noob here
[05:09] <towync> so am i haha
[05:09] <ubuntu> are you Edgy?
[05:09] <zach_> ya
[05:09] <towync> me too
[05:09] <ubuntu> then beryl is a snap to get going
[05:09] <ubuntu> you want me to help you?
[05:09] <zach_> I figured edgy would be better being newer I guess
[05:09] <zach_> sure thing, that would be awesome, thanks
[05:10] <ubuntu> pastebin me you xorg.conf
[05:10] <ubuntu> your*
[05:10] <towync> me?
[05:10] <towync> do u want my xorg.conf
[05:10] <towync> !paste
[05:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:10] <towync> ubuntu i'll just paste mine for u in case u wanna look at it =)
[05:10] <towync> ubuntu not that u need to lol =)
[05:10] <ubuntu> do you want me to help you get beryl going?
[05:11] <towync> ubuntu of course =)
[05:11] <ubuntu> then go for it
[05:11] <towync> ubuntu most definately =)
[05:11] <zach_> so do I just type #ubuntu in the text spot then?
[05:12] <towync> ubuntu here u go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38734/ =)
[05:12] <towync> !paste | zach_
[05:12] <ubotu> zach_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:12] <towync> zach_ just press the link there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:12] <ubuntu> towync: tell zach_ where his xorg is and how to paste it
[05:12] <towync> k
[05:12] <ubuntu> ill brb to help you both
[05:13] <towync> so zach_, to paste ur xorg.conf
[05:13] <towync> first open up ur konsole
[05:13] <towync> then in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:13] <towync> then type whatever ur password is to open kate
[05:13] <towync> then press ctrl-a, to select all
[05:13] <towync> then go to edit then copy
[05:13] <towync> then press the link at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:13] <towync> and paste it into the dialog box there, enter ur name, and press paste
[05:14] <towync> and the paste the link of the resulting webpage here so ubuntu can see it
[05:14] <towync> i did it for mine u can see mine at
[05:14] <towync> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38734/
[05:14] <ubuntu> im looking at both of yours now
[05:14] <towync> he pasted his already?
[05:15] <ubuntu> no,
[05:15] <ubuntu> my bad
[05:15] <ubuntu> i thought that was him
[05:15] <ubuntu> its you
[05:15] <towync> o i just entered mine twice
[05:15] <towync> sorry
[05:15] <towync> yeah it's the same
[05:15] <ubuntu> no prob
[05:15] <zach_> ok, ya, I have no clue what I'm doing really, I've never coded before or anything, sorry
[05:16] <towync> all you have to do is type in konsole: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:16] <towync> no coding at all =)
[05:16] <zach_> I have the etc11org.conf - Kate open, and there's nothing there
[05:17] <towync> no u have to type the slashes
[05:17] <towync> instead of etc11org.conf
[05:17] <towync> u have to type:           sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:17] <towync> if u did that and u still have nothing, then u don't have xorg.conf
[05:18] <towync> i'm not sure where xorg.conf came from in the first place, prolly when i installed my nvidiea driver but i can be totally off for that lol
[05:18] <zach_> ya, I did it again and that konsole is saying failed to open device now
[05:18] <ubuntu> you cant not have xorg
[05:19] <ubuntu> you wouldnt be running without it
[05:19] <towync> o yeah
[05:19] <ubuntu> zach_: do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:19] <towync> i should know cuz when i was messing around with wacom in xorg.conf, i couldn't get gui anymore until i found out i needed to comment out some other part of xorg.conf lol
[05:20] <zach_> ok, it opened this time
[05:20] <towync> or vim instead of nano, whichever works, i have to google everytime for what the "save" shortcut keys are for each text editor lol
[05:20] <ubuntu> towync: make a backup of you xorg then put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38735/ that as you xorg and restart (make sure you backup incase it dosnt work)
[05:21] <ubuntu> towync: you just do ctrl+x to exit then it automatically askes if you want to save changes
[05:21] <zach_> it says new file at the bottom w/ some shortcuts
[05:22] <ubuntu> paste the command your doing
[05:22] <ubuntu> just teh one line
[05:23] <zach_> the command that I'm doing is what then?
[05:23] <prak> what is the command in recovery mode to edit sudoer file?
[05:24] <zach_> there is nothing in it at all, and I need to copy all of nothing it would seem
[05:25] <zach_> o well, guys, its ok, I can live w/o that theme until I understand what is going on I guess
[05:26] <zach_> when I think I know what I'm doing I'll come back to you I guess
[05:26] <ubuntu> zach_: im usually always in this channel as makuseru, feel free to ask me to help you again
[05:27] <zach_> cool, thanks a lot really
[05:27] <zach_> sorry I suck at this...
[05:28] <ubuntu> towync: you still in here?
[05:28] <zach_> btw, towync and ubuntu, I'll probably be on this channel a bit too, idk yet if there is a way to save user names or whatever, but feel free to save mine
[05:29] <zach_> it said they were idle for like 6 min.
[05:29] <ubuntu> towync: i need to restart, but just hang in there and ill be back to help you
[05:33] <prak> does anyone know what's the command to edit sudoer in recovery mode?
[05:34] <unix_infidel> visudo
[05:34] <unix_infidel> as root
[05:34] <unix_infidel> or sudo visudo
[05:36] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a linux port of zfs without fuse
[05:37] <unix_infidel> or any benchmarks with zfs port using a fuse compared to native zfs?
[05:42] <pc22>  can anyone recommend a distance learning org?
[05:44] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone have a Dell Inspiron laptop, and have monitor out working?
[05:45] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[05:59] <unix_infidel> anyone have a latitude d420 working with ubuntu?
[06:00] <NDPowerBook> Is that the one with an external optical drive?
[06:00] <NDPowerBook> Cause if so, yes
[06:01] <NDPowerBook> Oh wait I just googled it, its not the one I have
[06:01] <NDPowerBook> But I've never heard of anyone having issues with Dell laptops and linux
[06:01] <unix_infidel> its the newer dell ultraportable.
[06:02] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[06:05] <seven11> how can i find the fastest server for apt-get update
[06:05] <seven11> netselect?
[06:12] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[06:14] <tony__> hello everyone and MERRY XMAS :)
[06:17] <tony__> i have external harddrive connected using USB. each time , i would connect my hd to linux, it used to show an icon on my desktop. now , it shows nothing and i have no access to that Drive.. why . and how i can connct to it ?
[06:17] <tony__> !USB
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about USB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <T3hWiz0rd> what group does a user need to be a part of in order to mount/umount?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> T3hWiz0rd: wrong question. Depends on what is in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <thoreauputic> T3hWiz0rd: e.g. if the "user" or "users" option is set, you can mount/umount
[06:31] <thoreauputic> if the "users" is set, any user can umount, if sigular ( "user") then the user who mounted the device can umount it
[06:32] <thoreauputic> umm s/sigular/singular
[06:32] <ken> Any one using the driver from 'fs-driver.org' over here?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> ken: since no-one knows what it does, hard to say. What are you trying to actually do?
[06:33] <ken> It is a driver that is used by Windows XP to 'see' the EXT2/3 partitions and write/read to it
[06:33] <thoreauputic> ah I see
[06:33] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:34] <ken> Anyone used that driver?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> ken: sorry, I wiped my windows ages ago
[06:34] <thoreauputic> ken: I've heard it works
[06:34] <ken> i have experienced it doesn't
[06:34] <thoreauputic> :(
[06:35] <thoreauputic> did it trash your data ?
[06:35] <ken> wait i will give the exact error
[06:38] <thoreauputic> the suspense is killing me...
[06:38] <ken> HELP: on starting ubuntu i get: /dev/hda1 has been mount 30 times, without being checked, and then it is checked (slowly), similarly a message comes for /dev/hdb1. And i have to wait. Can someone tell me why this error comes? I tried writing to a EXT3 /home with the driver from fs-driver.org, from windows and after that this happens,
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ken: see my answer in #ubuntu
[06:40] <ken> thoreauputic: From now on we converse there
[06:40] <thoreauputic> yep
[06:43] <towync> how can i let konversation log on to multiple channels everytime automatically at start up?
[06:43] <hagabaka> File - Server List, edit a network or add a new one and edit it
[06:44] <towync> thank you
[06:44] <seven11> where can i find list of other desktops than kde (fluxbox and so on)
[06:45] <seven11> what is a good and fast desktop
[06:46] <towync> !fluxbox
[06:46] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:47] <towync> i don't know, sorry
[06:47] <towync> !#kde
[06:47] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:48] <thoreauputic> seven11:  http://xwinman.org
[06:48] <seven11> thanks
[06:48] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[06:51] <towycn> merry christmas everyone =)
[06:53] <max_> towync: this is ubuntu
[06:53] <max_> towycn: this is ubuntu
[06:53] <max_> when i logged back in you had logged off
[06:53] <max_> did you swap out your xorg?
[06:54] <waplaw> i am having trouble using a printer, does anyone have any experience with this issue?
[06:55] <bomber> merry christmas everyone
[06:55] <waplaw> i am getting the hp printer_no_found message, and i can't seem to get it to connect
[06:55] <waplaw> merry christmas to you
[06:57] <max_> how do you enable direct rendering?
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> is there a flashplayer9 package?
[06:58] <waplaw> anyone got any ideas on the printer?
[06:59] <robotgeek> purpleposeidon: look up on seveas's repo
[07:02] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: hey hey
[07:02] <robotgeek> hey T3hWiz0rd , merry christmas :)
[07:02] <T3hWiz0rd> you too
[07:06] <towycn> max_ hi max
[07:06] <towycn> sorry i was away a little last time
[07:06] <hagabaka> it's on backports too
[07:06] <max_> its ok
[07:06] <towycn> max_ but yeah i tried out ur revised xorg.conf
[07:07] <towycn> max_ i didn't actually save as what u had as xorg.conf
[07:07] <max_> why
[07:07] <towycn> max_ cuz i just added in the "DRI" section,
[07:07] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[07:07] <towycn> max_ and also under modules, i added the line Load "dbe"
[07:07] <max_> ok
[07:07] <max_> thats all i did to yours
[07:07] <thompa> allo, how do i convert something to a wav file?
[07:08] <towycn> max_ it worked better than before =)
[07:08] <towycn> max_ the mouse was responsive
[07:08] <towycn> max_ but nothing responds to keyboard
[07:08] <max_> now hang on and ill get what you need to add to your sources.list
[07:08] <towycn> max_ but it still wouldn't run tho, but the error msg this time was different
[07:08] <towycn> max_ thx so much for the help =)
[07:08] <towycn> max_ i forgot to write down the error msg this time
[07:09] <towycn> max_ cuz i wasn't sure if i'd be able to meet up with u =)
[07:09] <towycn> what the
[07:09] <towycn> max_ hehe, saw u took a exit with a bang =)
[07:10] <max_> brb, gotta get that link
[07:10] <towycn> max_ k thx alot =)
[07:10] <towycn> max_ i'll be here for a long while, take ur time =)
[07:11] <max_> are you edgy or dapper
[07:11] <towycn> i'm on edgy
[07:12] <max_> # Trevio's Beryl-SVN Ubuntu Repository
[07:12] <max_> # GPG key: 81836EBF
[07:12] <max_> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[07:12] <max_> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[07:12] <max_> add that to your sources.list
[07:12] <towycn> k
[07:13] <towycn> adding
[07:13] <thompa> anybody using soundkonverter? what does it need for wav files here
[07:14] <thompa> i got all codecs stuff, but the error is on opening the flac or mp3 to be converted."try changing file name"
[07:14] <thompa> max_: beryl svn is not working for me right now
[07:14] <towycn> max_ k i'm adding in the repos now, i had to find where sources.list were at first, so i googled, and i'm adding now
[07:15] <thompa> it was a few days ago, now it just freezes everything up
[07:15] <max_> does your screen turn white then you get booted to login?
[07:15] <thompa> my windows lost the top bar area so i cant grab or move them
[07:16] <max_> do a "reload windows manager"
[07:16] <thompa> refreshing or changing themes does no good,
[07:16] <thompa> no good
[07:16] <max_> go into .beryl-managerrc and change render path to 2
[07:16] <thompa> ok
[07:16] <thompa> let me start it up
[07:17] <max_> no
[07:17] <lbg> hello
[07:17] <max_> dont start it
[07:17] <lbg> why my desktop frequently down?
[07:17] <lbg> ?
[07:18] <towycn> max_ cool i had to type it in, i couldn't copy paste from here, now it's in the sources.list, how do i get the key, do i do wget something
[07:18] <thompa> max_: im looking for it
[07:18] <towycn> we're overwhelming max with questions hehe, thx max =)
[07:18] <max_> KEY=81836EBF; gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv $KEY && gpg --export --armor $KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[07:18] <towycn> enter that verbatim into command prompt?
[07:18] <max_> yes
[07:18] <towycn> k
[07:20] <max_> thompa: just open a terminal and do sudo nano .beryl-manager-rc
[07:20] <max_> oops
[07:20] <max_> .beryl-managerrc
[07:20] <max_> that
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: requesting key 81836EBF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: key 81836EBF: public key "Trevio (3v1n0<EMAIL_ADDRESS>imported
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[07:20] <towycn> gpg:               imported: 1
[07:20] <towycn> OK
[07:20] <towycn> does that look right
[07:21] <towycn> sorry if i'm spamming, i forgot to paste into paste bin
[07:21] <max_> ya, it says OK
[07:21] <towycn> ok =)
[07:21] <max_> now do a sudo apt-get update, if it gives you an error (it might) do it again and it shouldnt
[07:21] <towycn> k
[07:21] <max_> then do sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:22] <thompa> max_: what do i put there
[07:22] <max_> you did sudo nano .beryl-managerrc?
[07:23] <thompa> i found some rendering path options, in the gui, but auto , texture ,cop
[07:23] <thompa> yes
[07:23] <towycn> btw i'm using kubuntu, hopefully that doesn't change anything right =)
[07:23] <max_> is beryl shut down
[07:23] <thompa> yes
[07:23] <max_> townycn: ubuntu, kubuntu, same thing
[07:23] <towycn> cool =-)
[07:23] <max_> i use kubuntu
[07:23] <max_> cause i dont like gnome
[07:24] <max_> thompa: ok change render path from 0 to 2
[07:24] <towycn> =) i never tried gnome before
[07:24] <max_> townycn: not do sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:24] <max_> now do*
[07:25] <towycn> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[07:25] <towycn> that was the error msg
[07:25] <towycn> i've been getting that since lately the auto updater had problems
[07:25] <thompa> max_: eh, is that a new file?
[07:26] <max_> thompa: no
[07:26] <thompa> nevermind i found it
[07:26] <spitwise> happy ximas
[07:26] <thompa> i must have misspelled it
[07:26] <max_> towycn: did you do that?
[07:26] <towycn> actually adept_updater had been bad for me lately, it gets stuck whenever it finished downloading the updates and tries to install something related to sun java
[07:26] <towycn> yeah i typed in sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:26] <spitwise> apt is much easier to use
[07:27] <max_> did it install it
[07:27] <towycn> i had this error msg:  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[07:27] <towycn> no it stopped half way i think
[07:27] <max_> try it again
[07:27] <towycn> k
[07:27] <towycn> k now it worked
[07:28] <towycn> during the process all they did was remove something sun-java related
[07:28] <max_> now do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <towycn> k
[07:29] <thompa> max_i had to also change rendering path to copy from auto
[07:29] <towycn> max_ download in process
[07:29] <max_> alright
[07:29] <max_> so the render path was set to 2?
[07:29] <thompa> right click on beryl manager icon, rendering path on copy also
[07:30] <max_> what was the render path in .beryl-managerrc
[07:30] <thompa> max_: thanks , working well now
[07:30] <max_> no problem
[07:30] <towycn> max_ 97 percent =)
[07:30] <towycn> unpacking
[07:30] <thompa> i think it was 0
[07:30] <towycn> a whole bunch of things
[07:31] <towycn> still unpacking
[07:31] <max_> towycn: now just do beryl-manager in a terminal and itll start up
[07:31] <towycn> Wrote namespace list at bcf8 - bd08
[07:31] <towycn> ***
[07:31] <towycn> Preparing to replace emerald-themes 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 (using .../emerald-themes_0.1.4+svn20061219-r1916+3v1ubuntu0_all.deb) ...
[07:31] <towycn> Unpacking replacement emerald-themes ...
[07:31] <towycn> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:31] <towycn>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libemeraldengine0_0.1.4+svn20061223-r2015+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[07:31] <towycn> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:32] <thompa> everythin is 0 in that file but icon size
[07:32] <towycn> max_ would the error msg above be a problem?
[07:32] <thompa> and now render path
[07:32] <max_> no
[07:32] <towycn> to my question? that'd be great lol
[07:32] <max_> towycn: now just do beryl-manager in a terminal and itll start up
[07:32] <towycn> k
[07:32] <max_> itll give you errors
[07:32] <max_> dont worry
[07:33] <max_> dont paste them
[07:33] <towycn> fingers crossed =) testing k
[07:33] <towycn> sorry =)
[07:33] <max_> itll still start up
[07:33] <spitwise> hmm beryl looks interesting
[07:33] <towycn> it says composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session
[07:34] <towycn> actually one of the error msg is: beryl: another composite manager is already running on screen: 0
[07:34] <max_> whats your processor speed?
[07:34] <towycn> 3ghz
[07:34] <max_> ok
[07:34] <max_> restart then try to start beryl again
[07:34] <towycn> nvidia fx 5900 for graphics card, and 1g ram
[07:34] <thompa> burn and transporter are in animation setting
[07:34] <towycn> k
[07:34] <max_> you dont even have to do a full one
[07:35] <max_> just do ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:35] <max_> just need to restart x
[07:35] <towycn> me right
[07:35] <towycn> k
[07:35] <towycn> brb
[07:36] <thompa> bzflag does not work with beryl though, so i got to often switch off
[07:36] <thompa> open gl game
[07:36] <spitwise> bzflag rocks
[07:37] <towycn> !paste
[07:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:37] <spitwise> is ok w/ kubuntu?
[07:37] <spitwise> er .. kde?
[07:37] <thompa> i can get to number one on any competition or close
[07:37] <spitwise> i play w/ my mouse
[07:38] <spitwise> feel as though its a disadvantage
[07:38] <towycn> max_ there's still some errors, and beryl wouldn't start, but it's getting so close =)
[07:38] <thompa> have you run experimental gui
[07:38] <towycn> max_ i pasted the error msg here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38743/
[07:38] <max_> *looks*
[07:38] <spitwise> me?
[07:38] <spitwise> i used only *box for years, recently installed kubuntu but havent tried bzflag yet
[07:39] <towycn> o do i have to uninstall baghira
[07:39] <max_> maybe
[07:39] <thompa> did you install emerald files too, cause i missed that first time
[07:39] <max_> and if that dosnt work
[07:39] <max_> do apt-get install beryl again
[07:39] <towycn> k
[07:39] <towycn> would i just do: sudo apt-get uninstall Baghira?
[07:39] <thompa> if you use syanptic it will skip emerald themes and some other file
[07:40] <max_> yes
[07:40] <max_> thompa: were not using synap here
[07:40] <thompa> thats good
[07:41] <max_> i got it under control dont worry
[07:41] <thompa> i cant get snow to work
[07:42] <SurgeX> Does Kubuntu support the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (900)?
[07:42] <towycn> k brb i uninstalled baghira
[07:42] <towycn> oops, i meant to type: max_ brb i uninstalled baghira, restarting
[07:43] <max_> alright
[07:45] <towycn> max_ k i'm back, after i uninstalled baghira, i think beryl-manager got deleted too, cuz it now says command not found, so i just do sudo apt-get install beryl again right
[07:45] <max_> yes
[07:45] <towycn> and then beryl-manager again right
[07:46] <towycn> hehe sorry =) but just don't wanna mess anything up
[07:46] <max_> did you get errors installing it?
[07:46] <towycn> nope
[07:46] <max_> then do beryl-manager
[07:46] <towycn> k =) fingers crossed again lol
[07:46] <towycn> darn it
[07:47] <max_> same problem?
[07:47] <towycn> there's another composite manager failure error dialogue box
[07:47] <max_> hang on
[07:47] <towycn> it says again the composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session
[07:47] <towycn> but this time when i type beryl-manager it's a lot cleaner, there was only this msg:
[07:47] <max_> do
[07:47] <spitwise> does it tell you to edit your xorg.conf?
[07:47] <towycn> computer@computer-desktop:~$ trying '/home/computer/.xcompmgrrc' as configfile
[07:47] <towycn> finished parsing the config file
[07:47] <max_> glib -l
[07:48] <towycn> no space between - and | right
[07:48] <max_> its not a |
[07:48] <max_> its a lower case L
[07:48] <towycn> o
[07:48] <towycn> cool thx
[07:48] <max_> mhm
[07:48] <spitwise> !pipe
[07:48] <towycn> glib command not found
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <towycn> apt-get install glib?
[07:48] <max_> no
[07:48] <towycn> o hehe, cool
[07:49] <max_> i dont know about that error
[07:49] <max_> go into #beryl and ask
[07:49] <towycn> k =)
[07:49] <towycn> is there a site that lists all the previous steps that u told me
[07:49] <spitwise> i get that error but its a transparency issue
[07:49] <towycn> just in case i decide to reinstall kubuntu all together
[07:49] <towycn> i think i might have messed around too much so these wierd errors appear
[07:50] <brianw> is there a way to install nvidia 9.x drivers?
[07:50] <thompa> isnt there a non svn more stable beryl install
[07:50] <max_> svn is stable
[07:50] <brianw> adept only shows 1.0.8776
[07:50] <thompa> ive had lots of problems with svn,
[07:51] <thompa> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[07:51] <max_> svn is fine now
[07:51] <max_> its not XGL
[07:51] <max_> its AIGLX
[07:52] <thompa> i guess that link is old
[07:53] <RobbeZ> anyone an idea why my shell would always respond with a "E: Couldn't find package <anything>" while giving this kind of line "sudo apt-get install <anything>" ?
[07:53] <spitwise> RobbeZ: do an apt-cache search <anything>
[07:54] <spitwise> you may need to uncomment a repository
[07:55] <RobbeZ> it just jumps to the next line
[07:55] <RobbeZ> giving no visable difference
[07:55] <spitwise> you just installed?
[07:55] <RobbeZ> kinda :s
[07:55] <spitwise> ok
[07:56] <spitwise> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:56] <spitwise> kate being the text editor
[07:56] <spitwise> and uncomment the universe line
[07:56] <spitwise> a lot of packages there
[07:56] <thoreauputic> spitwise: wrong file !!
[07:56] <spitwise> umm
[07:56] <spitwise> RIGHT!
[07:57] <spitwise> sorry
[07:57] <spitwise> /etc/apt/
[07:57] <thoreauputic>  kdsu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <spitwise> thanks
[07:57] <spitwise> <-- too much multitasking
[07:57] <spitwise> listen to thoreauputic
[07:57] <RobbeZ> hehe
[07:57] <thoreauputic> umm or should that be kdesu ?
[07:57] <spitwise> either
[07:57] <thoreauputic> (on gnome here atm)
[07:57] <spitwise> oh
[07:58] <spitwise> whatever gives you root privs
[07:58] <thoreauputic> yes, but don't do sudo kate <-- bad move
[07:58] <spitwise> ya kate sucks
[07:58] <thoreauputic> kdesu kate i think
[07:58] <spitwise> for things as this
[07:58] <spitwise> vim is nice
[07:58] <RobbeZ> I did put up some # earlier on, since I was trying to use GrubEd
[07:58] <spitwise> or nano
[07:58] <thoreauputic> no kate is fine, hust don't use straight sudo for HUI apps
[07:58] <thoreauputic> GUI
[07:59] <spitwise> insecure?
[07:59] <thoreauputic> spitwise: yourun the risk that ~/,ICEauthority ends up owned by root
[07:59] <spitwise> damn
[07:59] <thoreauputic> spitwise: which locks you out on next login
[08:00] <spitwise> awesome.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> also  ~/.Xautjority
[08:00] <thoreauputic> nah
[08:00] <spitwise> sudo and kde are new to me
[08:00] <thoreauputic> ~/.Xauthority
[08:00] <spitwise> i'm not so sure about them
[08:01] <thoreauputic> spitwise: hah - ten to one I'm older than you ;)
[08:01] <spitwise> you're on
[08:01] <thoreauputic> spitwise: I'm 54
[08:01] <spitwise> hahah you win ;P
[08:02] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:02] <spitwise> <-- just stubborn then ;)
[08:02] <thoreauputic> spitwise: I accept cheques and credit cards ;-)
[08:02] <RobbeZ> spitwise : any thought around what line that "universe" might be in xorg.conf ?
[08:02] <spitwise> its not a long file
[08:02] <thoreauputic> RobbeZ: it isn't there
[08:02] <spitwise> and not easy to miss
[08:03] <thoreauputic> WRONG FILE!!!
[08:03] <spitwise> wha>?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> excuse caps
[08:03] <spitwise> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <thoreauputic> there is *no* universe line in that file!
[08:03] <spitwise> ya thoreauputic , stop yelling!
[08:03] <thoreauputic> heheh
[08:03] <thoreauputic> it's not something I often do
[08:04] <spitwise> heh sorry its #kubuntu
[08:04] <mike> I messed up my repositories in adept
[08:04] <mike> how can I fix them
[08:04] <thoreauputic> but editing that file is a great way to bork your system if you don't know
[08:05] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[08:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:06] <spitwise> all i know is i couldnt install anything i needed until i uncomment one freakin universe line in my sources.list  ..
[08:06] <spitwise> no borking.
[08:06] <spitwise> but he is using gnome ..
[08:06] <spitwise> dunno if all *bunutu installs are like this
[08:09] <brianw> ok, so I tried to install nvidia-glx , but it is only available for a kernel I don't have installed. Any help?
[08:09] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : replaced my list with a fresh one, but still got "E: Couldn't find package x"
[08:10] <secleinteer> does anyone know how i can erase a dvdrw with k3b?
[08:10] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : Should I restart something ?
[08:10] <spitwise> RobbeZ: did a sudo apt-get update?
[08:10] <spitwise> (so apt knows you changed the file)
[08:10] <brianw> brianw@hathor:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:10] <brianw> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[08:10] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : I thought I did that just before coming here, but trough the interface
[08:11] <mike> I am trying to install an aaati driver
[08:11] <spitwise> i dont use the interface ..
[08:11] <mike> its an rpm
[08:11] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : Ah, right :-)
[08:11] <spitwise> :)
[08:11] <mike> how do I get it into apt
[08:11] <spitwise> apt is a commanbd
[08:11] <spitwise> command
[08:11] <spitwise> !apt
[08:11] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:11] <jason>  how do i know if i have the dapper amd64 or just 386 version?
[08:11] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : well what do you now, it works :)))
[08:11] <spitwise> yay!
[08:12] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : thanks a lot :D
[08:12] <spitwise> sure thing
[08:12] <RobbeZ> Yay idd
[08:12] <spitwise> apt-get update .. i forget too sometimes
[08:12] <RobbeZ> wouldn't have guessed it myself
[08:13] <spitwise> is also handy before using apt-get upgrade ;)
[08:13] <RobbeZ> btw do you know if kubunty 7 will have a graphical grub ?
[08:13] <spitwise> me i dunno i'm a kubuntu newbie
[08:13] <RobbeZ> hehe, I'll try to console more
[08:14] <spitwise> ya more power there .. no bs ;))
[08:14] <RobbeZ> a very wise newbie
[08:14] <spitwise> plain old debian user
[08:14] <RobbeZ> :-)
[08:15] <spitwise> shell only does waht you tell it to ;)
[08:15] <RobbeZ> did use suse and fedora before, but strangly I never had to much trouble, even though they felt more complex
[08:15] <RobbeZ> hehe, inserting "just work" command
[08:15] <spitwise> heh
[08:15] <mike> I have downloaded the rpm
[08:15] <mike> how can I get apt to install it
[08:16] <RobbeZ> apt fetches the file
[08:16] <spitwise> apt only installs .deb files
[08:16] <spitwise> !rpm
[08:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:16] <brianw> brianw@hathor:~$ uname -a
[08:16] <brianw> Linux hathor 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:16] <brianw> is that right?
[08:17] <mike> how can you get yahoo chat sound
[08:18] <mike> the vox opens but no sound comes out
[08:21] <jerp> Merry Christmas Windows users -  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/technology/25vista.html?ei=5090&en=49a6ffcc2da87302&ex=1324702800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
[08:23] <jason> what is the command to move files?
[08:23] <brianw> Can anyone help me get the nvidia drivers installed?
[08:23] <unix_infidel> !mv
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <unix_infidel> !nvidia
[08:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <brianw> !nvidia
[08:24] <jason> thanks
[08:24] <spitwise> jason: mv <file> /location/blah
[08:24] <spitwise> read some man pages, man
[08:25] <spitwise> cp "copies" it
[08:25] <spitwise> when did irc become easier than moving a file?
[08:27] <towync> how do i exit X in kubuntu?
[08:27] <towync> when i try to run nvidia 9629 update
[08:27] <towync> it says it appears i'm in X
[08:27] <towync> and i need to exit X
[08:27] <spitwise> cntrl+alt1 or 2 or 3 can give you a console
[08:27] <spitwise> 7 is where X runs
[08:27] <towync> yeah but in console it stills say the same thing
[08:27] <spitwise> ps -aux
[08:27] <towync> what's that
[08:28] <spitwise> tells you whats running
[08:28] <spitwise> what processes
[08:28] <towync> o
[08:28] <towync> so just type it in?
[08:28] <towync> konsole
[08:28] <spitwise> and you can see the 3 of that process
[08:28] <spitwise> and
[08:28] <spitwise> killall -9 <process>
[08:28] <brianw> unix_infidel: ok, I have this for uname: Linux hathor 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux , which linux-restricted-modules do I need?
[08:28] <spitwise> kills it
[08:28] <spitwise> s/3/#
[08:28] <towync> what's -9?
[08:28] <spitwise> man kill
[08:29] <spitwise> i just use it -- its like "i'm freakin serious -- kill that f**ker
[08:29] <unix_infidel> man i need to get me a tablet pc :(
[08:29] <towync> what does "and you can see the 3 of that process" mean
[08:29] <towync> lol
[08:29] <spitwise> :D
[08:29] <spitwise> !kill
[08:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:29] <towync> what does "the 3 of that process" mean, u typed that earlier
[08:29] <towync> couple lines up
[08:29] <spitwise> 3 was meant to be #
[08:30] <spitwise> didnt press my shift ket hard enough
[08:30] <spitwise> key
[08:30] <towync> what does the # of that process mean tho
[08:30] <spitwise> arrie    5654  7.0  0.1   2900  1100 pts/2    R+   02:30   0:00 ps -aux
[08:31] <towync> huh
[08:31] <towync> *lost*
[08:31] <spitwise> the # after arrie is the process #
[08:31] <spitwise> 5654
[08:31] <towync> o u mean number
[08:31] <spitwise> (its easier to type than the name usually)
[08:31] <towync> i thought # as comment
[08:31] <spitwise> oh sorry ;P
[08:31] <spitwise> number.
[08:31] <towync> no my bad =)
[08:31] <spitwise> !ps\
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <spitwise> !ps
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <spitwise> ubotu needs man
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs man - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <towync> what do i kill then
[08:32] <spitwise> X?
[08:32] <towync> i don't see X anywhere in the output for the command ps -aux
[08:32] <brianw> Ok, I have followed the nvidia guide, when I try to do the l ast step, I get this: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[08:32] <brianw> any ideas?
[08:33] <max_> whats the problem?
[08:33] <brianw> me?
[08:33] <towync> i don't know, oo max_ ur back =)
[08:33] <max_> ever get beryl?
[08:33] <towync> no, i'm trying to install newest nvidia driver
[08:33] <towync> but during that install
[08:34] <towync> i get error saying X is running and i need to quit X
[08:34] <towync> how do i quit X... lol
[08:34] <spitwise> try top then
[08:34] <spitwise> it gives me a Xorg pid
[08:34] <spitwise> !pid
[08:34] <brianw> just switch to rc3
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <max_> during your nvidia install?
[08:34] <towync> yeah
[08:34] <towync> a blue screen comes within konsole
[08:34] <max_> ok, get some paper
[08:34] <towync> k
[08:34] <towync> got them
[08:35] <deviant> hello, does anyone know what port apache listens to? Need to know so I can set it in the router to open.. Or know the command to find out?
[08:35] <unix_infidel> 80
[08:35] <brianw> deviant: netstat -alne
[08:35] <spitwise> links google.com
[08:36] <max_> ok, iwhat type type of file is your driver installer?
[08:36] <towync> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run
[08:37] <spitwise> towync: youb dont see this?:  /usr/bin/X  somthing?
[08:37] <towync> o let me try again
[08:37] <max_> no
[08:37] <spitwise> from ps -aux
[08:37] <max_> your gunna logout, when you login press <ctrl+alt+F2> login that way, then run your installer like that, when your done type in <startx>
[08:37] <towync> type in <startx> with the brackets?
[08:37] <spitwise> ?
[08:38] <max_> no
[08:38] <spitwise> max is talking to brianw
[08:38] <towync> spitwise yeah now i see a /usr/bin/X -br
[08:38] <max_> no
[08:38] <max_> max is talking to towync
[08:38] <towync> k =)
[08:38] <spitwise> heh
[08:38] <brianw> heh
[08:38] <towync> max_ do i type <startx> with the brackets?
[08:38] <brianw> I just want to get the stable nvidia drivers installed.  New messages arriving are fine. Any ideas
[08:43] <brianw> I am trying to install the nvidia pacjage through adept, i get it installed, but when I enter `sudo nvidia-glx-config enable` , I get this output: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel
[08:44] <brianw> max_ ^^^
[08:44] <max_> i dont know anything ab0out nvidia
[08:44] <spitwise> there are tons of nvidia q's here
[08:45] <spitwise> seems a lot of people with them ahve issues
[08:45] <brianw> This was so easy in Gentoo. I understand why it is a bit more difficult w/ a non-source based distro, but I don't know where to go from here.
[08:45] <deviant_> does anyone know what command you use to see what ports are being used by programs?
[08:46] <brianw> deviant_: netstat -alnep
[08:46] <spitwise> heh 'easy' and 'gentoo' in the same sentence!
[08:46] <spitwise> ;)
[08:46] <deviant_> brianw thanks
[08:46] <brianw> deviant_: no problem
[08:47] <brianw> spitwise: `emerge nvidia-drivers` . That is it. Of course you have to edit the xorg.conf file...
[08:48] <spitwise> and then wait 8 hrs?
[08:48] <brianw> heh, well since the nvidia driver is a binary... um no. :)
[08:48] <spitwise> ;P
[08:49] <deviant_> brianw that doesn't show me the ports they have open, Like for my MUD it has port 5200 open it shows the program running but not the port it's running on.
[08:49] <spitwise> ya just taking hte oppurtunity to make a crack
[08:49] <spitwise> not wise considering my typing
[08:50] <spitwise> memebr in the matric when trinity borke into that system?
[08:50] <spitwise> memeber what she typed to get the open ports?
[08:50] <brianw> I just want to get the darned driver installed. And I would not like to circumvent the package manager...
[08:50] <spitwise> ya sorry brianw , just commeting on the amount of q's that ive seen come through here on that
[08:51] <spitwise> more than should be methinks
[08:52] <brianw> The thing is, I have followed the method of installation. It shows it as installed, but apparently it is not getting built against the current running kernel...
[08:52] <spitwise> have you talked to any developers or so? bug report??
[08:53] <spitwise> ..just seem to be more probs than answers
[08:54] <spitwise> from an outsiders pov
[08:54] <sandbox> Speaking of bugs, has there been any development towards the "energy savings" problem in kubuntu 6.10 edgy? The screen blanks and shows various sized X's every time.
[08:58] <deviant_> hello I need to find out what port apache listens on so I can plug it into my router so someone else can see the website anyone know?
[09:01] <spitwise> i'm gonna take a wild guess and say 80
[09:02] <spitwise> don't think taht;s your probs though
[09:03] <brianw> Well I think I know what the problem is. My kernel version is: 2.6.17-10-generic , but the nvidia-glx package is this version: 1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-1
[09:03] <spitwise> ew
[09:04] <spitwise> downgrading kernel? ouch.
[09:05] <seven11> somebody help if i start 3ddesk i get
[09:05] <seven11> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[09:05] <seven11> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:05] <spitwise> is there a way you can boot off an older kernel?
[09:06] <spitwise> must sleep .. good luck brianw
[09:07] <seven11> help with 3ddesktop anyone
[09:07] <max_> boo 3ddesk
[09:08] <max_> do you have direct rendering on?
[09:08] <jerp> have you loaded the glx
[09:08] <jerp> loaded = installed
[09:09] <seven11> yes glx is installed
[09:09] <max_> do you have direct rendering on?
[09:09] <seven11> how do i check
[09:11] <seven11> max_: how do i check for direct rendering
[09:12] <froud> Anyone tried a groupware solution with Kmail? Which is best?
[09:13] <jerp> seven, my guess is, <name of glx renderer> enable
[09:13] <jerp> seven, and if not that, <name of glx renderer> --help
[09:14] <max_> i dunno
[09:15] <deviant_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ could someone go here and see if you can see my website?
[09:15] <deviant_> I want to see if the port opened up
[09:16] <brianw> fixed it
[09:17] <deviant_> Did it work?
[09:17] <jerp> nope, still waiting
[09:18] <deviant_> I made my router open port 80 so people could see my website so I dunno what's going on.
[09:18] <jerp> the Loading pinwheel is spinning
[09:19] <jerp> how about.........  <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[09:19] <jerp> how about.........  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80
[09:19] <deviant_> lol does that work?
[09:20] <jerp> nah, it says loading
[09:20] <deviant_> I can see my website going there, That's because I'm directly connected to it.
[09:22] <jerp> is there an apache wiki/howto/troubleshoot guide?
[09:23] <jerp> cause it isn't coming up
[09:23] <alin> Merry Christmas to all Linux Lovers!!
[09:23] <jerp> you to alin, thanks :)
[09:29] <max_> does anyone know how to take audio off a .flv file? or just save audio from youtube
[09:31] <jerp> that's over my head max_, sorry. but I can turn a computer on. let me know if you have that problem some time and I can help
[09:32] <max_> ooooooooooooooooooooooooook
[09:32] <jerp> hahaha :)
[09:35] <hyper_ch> good morning, I have a problem. When I try to insttall vncserver (rather actually start it) I get following error:  vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:36] <hyper_ch> any suggesstions?
[09:43] <Search4Lancer> I'm having crontab problems... anyone good with them?
[10:09] <chupa-chups> hi
[10:10] <Captain_Haddock> hi
[10:10] <Captain_Haddock> !samba
[10:10] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:12] <chupa-chups> hello
[10:14] <dyve> buon natale a tutti
[10:17] <max_> anyone use beryl?
[10:26] <Search4Lancer> max_, I've failed at using beryl, if that's what you mean
[10:27] <Search4Lancer> it pretty much f'ed everything
[10:27] <Search4Lancer> freaking nightmare, beryl is
[10:32] <max_> beryl is easy to get goin
[10:34] <Search4Lancer> ....easy for you to say
[10:35] <brady> approximately how much hdisk space is used by installing ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu all on the same system?
[10:36] <brady> i.e., i mean ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <fdoving> brady: ~1G
[10:42] <fdoving> .. maybe 1.5G
[10:47] <unix_infidel> depends on how much stuff you install.
[10:48] <unix_infidel> if you install all 3 desktops then considerably more.
[10:48] <unix_infidel> but then you look at total install size with all the apps and customizations you'll want and youll end up with a nice 2-2.5GB
[10:49] <fdoving> from a clean edgy server install with not-much-crap installed (using 830MB currently) installing all 3 desktops will use 680MB more. 830+680=1510
[10:50] <unix_infidel> fdoving: that's what i'm waying is he installing from a full fledged desktop install cd or is he using a alternate or server cd
[10:50] <unix_infidel> saying*
[10:50] <fdoving> that doesn't matter.
[10:51] <fdoving> installing xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop will use approx the same ammount of space if you install first kubuntu from the desktop cd, and then install xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop from the internet..
[10:52] <fdoving> .. if you compare that to installing a clean server system and then install the three desktops.. it won't be much of a difference.
[10:52] <plugs> !feisty
[10:52] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <plugs> is edgy totally cool
[10:52] <plugs> i still using dapper
[10:52] <fdoving> edgy is cool :)
[10:53] <unix_infidel> fdoving: i'm looking at the isntall guide for warty and its saying standard Ubuntu Desktop Install requires 1.8GB
[10:53] <unix_infidel> See Appendix.
[10:54] <fdoving> unix_infidel: that's with swap and actually having some space to use it. i'm counting used MBs.
[10:55] <jerp> I would post this elsewhere but I'm using xubuntu and when I try to access my disk app (xfce menu/system/disks) and it lets me enter the sudo password, starts to appear (grayed) but closes prematurely.
[10:55] <unix_infidel> fdoving: there's no mention of those two prerequisites.
[10:55] <unix_infidel> fdoving: also, 1843.2MB
[10:56] <fdoving> unix_infidel: then it has changed.
[10:56] <unix_infidel> fdoving:  I wont argue there.  This is for warty.
[10:56] <unix_infidel> fdoving: It's totally understandable that things have changed.
[10:57] <unix_infidel> Just not changed for the smaller.
[11:11] <jerp> I guess one is better off if they don't use either of the two biggest named graphics card companies
[11:16] <jerp> make that $dieter
[11:33] <umnik> How can I change ckeckspelling in Kopete from english to slovene?
[11:36] <ged> if I want to create a anonymous file share on my Linux box so my windows boxes can see the mp3s in /mnt/mp3 is there a simple way to accomplish this in kubuntu?
[11:37] <fdoving> we don't encourage sharing of mp3s.
[11:37] <ged> nice dodge
[11:38] <fdoving> hypothetically, that would depend on how you want users to access the share. \\yourmachine\files or with a ftp client?
[11:38] <fdoving> ged: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[11:39] <fdoving> ged: that is for the \\yourmachine\files way.. for the ftp way: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[11:40] <ged> fdoving: thanks for the links, I just found this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasArruda/ConfiguringEasyUnauthenticatedSambaWindowsLinuxShare
[11:41] <ged> if I have to muck with the config, I guess might as well start with that...
[11:41] <fdoving> ged: sure.. :)
[11:43] <plugs> nice dodge indeed
[11:44] <ged> I was hoping there was something more graphical, but that actually did the trick
[11:45] <jerp> it's nice to share though
[11:46] <ged> indeed. :)
[11:48] <matthias> hi ho :) ich habe mir mal kde installiert, jetzt ist beim starten dieser blaue kubuntu startfortschrittsbildschirm. wie kann ich mir wieder das ubuntu-bild dort herstellen?
[11:52] <jerp> matthias, hi ho back at ya;  no one in #kubuntu-de ?
[12:02] <matthias> oh, shit, sry for speaking german ;)
[12:05] <php-freak> does kubuntu have a regexp text editor
[12:08] <mustasj> Hi , merry christmas, are there any deb packages around for k3b 1.0 rc2?
[12:18] <cappelli> italian people?
[12:18] <matthias> hi, how can i set the slpash screen after grub-menu to ubuntu-style? after installing kde it has now kde-feeling, but i prefer the ubuntu-logo ^^
[12:20] <rolando> hola
[12:20] <rolando> how can i return to a dafault installation state of my xorg and card settings?
[12:20] <fdoving> matthias: in a terminal session: 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'
[12:21] <rolando> because everytime i try to do something related to 3d acceleration my pc crashes
[12:21] <rolando> starting google earth, or glxinfo, or beryl,...
[12:21] <matthias> yeah, that should be the right command, big thx rolando :D
[12:21] <matthias> hhhm
[12:21] <matthias> fdoving ^^
[12:21] <rolando> ?
[12:21] <matthias> thx :)
[12:27] <Sharketor> hello all ahd happy xmas
[12:36] <adz21c> How do I get rid of the mounted device icons from my desktop (I prefer to use the kicker applet). I have unselected the "show device icons" option in configure desktop. Any ideas?
[12:37] <rolando> how can i return to a dafault installation state of my xorg and card settings?
[12:40] <texjoachim> rolando: rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf_back and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <rolando> tex and what about the packages?
[12:41] <rolando> texjoachim: will it handle automatically?
[12:45] <Lynoure> I cannot find man for kwebdesktop, and for some reason it seem to download only one image for me, is there some trick to make it show all the images on the page?
[12:48] <texjoachim> rolando: it will ask you some questions about your hardware
[12:48] <rolando> texjoachim: ok thanx
[12:48] <rolando> ill give it a shot
[12:50] <zach_> ok, so I'm trying to find my secondary hard drive in this thing, and considering I've looked all over and I'm new at this, can anyone give me a hint?
[12:51] <vado> Hi'
[12:52] <zach_> hello
[12:52] <zach_> hey vado, you dont know where I can find my secondary hd in this os do you?
[12:53] <zach_> I stored all my media on it and cant find the hd now...
[12:53] <vado> you ave mount the dd?
[12:53] <zach_> what do you mean?
[12:53] <zach_> it worked when I was running xp
[12:54] <vado> hein?
[12:54] <vado> i don't understand
[12:54] <vado> my english is bad
[12:54] <zach_> do you speak english, ic
[12:54] <zach_> dont worry about it then, thanks anyways
[12:55] <vado> but i can help you if i understand wath you say
[12:56] <zach_> I have 2 hard drives, and I cant seem to find the 2nd one in this os
[12:56] <zach_> where can I find it?
[12:57] <ken> What are the consequences/advantages/disadvantages of using FAT32 as the FileSystem for My Linux machine
[12:57] <vado> you must mount the dd for us it
[12:57] <zach_> how do I mount it, I found in in the systems settings
[12:57] <vado> you can mount via the system settings
[12:58] <vado> in the ground you have drive fs system
[12:58] <vado> i think is is name
[12:59] <zach_> how do I mount it?
[12:59] <vado> in the dd settings
[01:00] <vado> you have the list of all the dd and his partition
[01:01] <zach_> ya, its an unpartitioned drive w/ files in it
[01:01] <zach_> 1 partition on it
[01:02] <vado> in order, the name, mountage point, type of fs, where is, accesibility mode
[01:02] <vado> i don't understand what your say
[01:03] <zach_> I might have it, nevermind
[01:03] <zach_> thank you anyways
[01:03] <vado> ok
[01:03] <ken> i am getting lot of compatibility problems to make Windows and Ubuntu to see each others partitions. SO i formatted Windows and installed a new XP on FAT32 (so ubuntu can safely read/write) now i am going to format Ubuntu and i need a file-system that is 100%compatible with Windows. So tell me what should i keep the Ubuntu's partition's file-system as?
[01:03] <vado> j'aurais pu t'aider plus facilement en franais
[01:03] <vado> lol
[01:04] <vado> you can read/write ext2 with a windows software
[01:05] <vado> i don't know the name
[01:05] <MistaED> although windows would make a mess of the filesystem's permissions and symlinks won't work
[01:05] <MistaED> plus no journal due to it using ext2 only
[01:08] <Petronas> hi
[01:10] <zach_> hola petronas
[01:21] <ken> Is this true: So at every boot-up, before Ubuntu starts, i will have to wait for fsck to check my HDDs and update the journals, if i have writen to a EXT3 partition from Windows in the previous boot? This happens when i write Data using that driver from windows to the EXT3 partition
[01:27] <fl1> how can i force the instalation of a package?
[01:27] <zach_> what is the correct mounting point for a secondary hard drive?
[01:28] <russ> hello there i am new user and thouhgt i would drop in to say "Hi"
[01:30] <russ__> wierd little thing that is, why doe's this IRC thing have diffrent names for one user ?
[01:33] <Lathiat> russ__: what do you mean "different names"?
[01:33] <russ__> well i guess i had better get down to the question at hand, is there anyway to get Unreal 2: the awaking to run under linux natively ?, i know it can be done with the other games in the unreal franchise but i can find no documentation for this one.
[01:34] <Lathiat> hm no idea on that one sorry
[01:34] <Lathiat> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2643&forum=8&post_id=12520
[01:34] <Lathiat> wine/cedega/crossover may work
[01:34] <russ__> well on my IRC window thing on the left side there is a little drop down menu thing that has my name 3 times with an under score thing
[01:35] <russ__> thanks for the links i will give them a shot
[01:35] <Lathiat> hrm not sure
[01:36] <russ__> i am not sure either but i can communicate so i guess it does not matter too much :)
[01:36] <Lathiat> oh, they are probably alternate nicknames
[01:36] <Lathiat> in case 'russ' is in use already
[01:36] <russ__> oh, well now that is handy
[01:36] <russ__> Cool learn somthing new everyday
[01:38] <russ__> well that link has answered my question thank you lathiat
[01:42] <russ__> well i guess i should go now and see if i can't get my game running under wine, you all have a safe and mery christmas.
[01:59] <kay> !de
[01:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:04] <joth> Can someone please help with an ipod issue?
[02:04] <joth> I'm trying to get my ipod nano to work, but it doesn't mount or anything.
[02:05] <joth> I've installed everything from adept that seems relevant, but nothing happens when I connect it.
[02:05] <joth> Any help would be much appreciated.
[02:08] <joth> Anyone?
[02:09] <fdoving> !ipod
[02:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:11] <joth> Tried it, but it doesn't help me, as I can't get it to appear on the Desktop or anywhere at all
[02:13] <ashesh> !"
[02:18] <fdoving> joth: then i can't help you.. i'm afraid. I don't have an ipod. the one i had is probably still swimming in the sea somewhere.
[02:27] <lotolt> Hello @ all and Happy Christmas to everyone
[02:28] <PFY-guy> happy christmas
[02:33] <dennister> hey ppl...both synaptic and adept keep crashing
[02:34] <dennister> and I want to rip my gorgeous new 3-cd tom waits collection, and that's not working either :(
[02:38] <dennister> segmentation faults, core dumped
[02:38] <dennister> will restart...perhaps this will fix all probs
[02:39] <os2mac> Has anyone tried to download the feisty-desktop-i386.iso and run it from CD?
[02:41] <os2mac> because I have d/l the .iso (from file and .torrent) and have tried to run it and it fails in the same spot every time.. I have tried 5 times.
[02:43] <Lathiat> os2mac: try burning at a lower speed
[02:43] <josh_> hi everyone
[02:43] <josh_> i just got a monitor
[02:43] <josh_> for christmas
[02:43] <Lathiat> oh, feisty
[02:43] <josh_> and kubuntu doesnt let me put the resolution to 1440x900
[02:43] <Lathiat> os2mac: yoru askign for trouble
[02:43] <os2mac> why is that?
[02:43] <Lathiat> !resolution
[02:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:43] <josh_> is there a way to put a custom resolution?
[02:44] <os2mac> I am not installing just running from CD.
[02:44] <Lathiat> os2mac: development release ;) sometimes their broken -- especialyl if its a daily build
[02:44] <os2mac> and I can read the disk and get a splash screen it just fails to load.
[02:46] <os2mac> and the .md5 checks out...
[02:46] <dennister> merry xmas people
[02:46] <os2mac> beginning to think it's a bad .iso file.
[02:46] <os2mac> Merry Christmas Dennister...
[02:47] <dennister> great way to wake up; lovely new 3cd set, can't rip and can't install either, both synaptic and adept crash at startup...nor can i install with apt-get
[02:48] <rysiek|pl> back
[02:48] <dennister> what do i do when i get: segmentation fault (core dumped)?
[02:49] <PFY-guy> is it telling you y?
[02:50] <dennister> that's the error message i get in cli when i try to install
[02:50] <PFY-guy> if you run the application from a terminal does it give a more detailed output of the error?
[02:50] <dennister> nope...seg fault...is all i get in response
[02:51] <PFY-guy> even from a console?.. no more information in the console window itself?
[02:51] <dennister> nope
[02:52] <PFY-guy> any configuration change the night before?
[02:53] <dennister> nope
[02:54] <dennister> can't remember last time i installed anything, either
[02:54] <PFY-guy> only thing i can think of atm to try first is remove the config directory and re-run the program
[02:54] <dennister> "remove the config directory"? how?
[02:54] <PFY-guy> so i guess that would be 'sudo rm -Rv /root/.synaptic'
[02:55] <dennister> ty, will try
[02:55] <PFY-guy> or.. if you wnat to keep the config files just incase
[02:55] <dennister> yes?
[02:55] <PFY-guy> u could always do mv instead of rm and place the files somewhere else
[02:55] <dennister> that would probably be safer :)
[02:56] <PFY-guy> so it would look like 'sudo mv -Rv /root/.synaptic /media/backup'
[02:58] <dennister> the -R is apparently an invalid option
[03:00] <PFY-guy> ok... R is used incase of sub-directories.. there might not be so it should be safe to leave it off
[03:00] <PFY-guy> just put -v
[03:00] <PFY-guy> instead of -Rv
[03:01] <phobiac> Merry christmas everybody!
[03:02] <phobiac> Does anyone know the hotkey manager that kubuntu uses?
[03:02] <PFY-guy> sry.. no idea
[03:02] <PFY-guy> ummm.. khotkeys?
[03:03] <dennister> ok, that's what I figured...but there doesn't seem to be any file or directory called /root/.synaptic
[03:03] <phobiac> Hmm, says there's a communication problem.
[03:03] <PFY-guy> u might find the hotkeys in the kcontrol panel
[03:04] <phobiac> Alright, thank you
[03:04] <dennister> smething with the latest adept-update must have screwed it up
[03:04] <PFY-guy> ok.. so from the terminal if you type sudo synaptic what happens?
[03:05] <dennister> i get asked for password, i enter it, synaptic tries to start, but before i see any text it exits, with konsole message: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:07] <PFY-guy> ok.. try removing it then re-installing it
[03:07] <PFY-guy> 'sudo apt-get remove synaptic'
[03:07] <PFY-guy> and then 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[03:07] <PFY-guy> hopefully, it will fix the problem by re-installing the application
[03:08] <dennister> i can't use that line for removing or installing any application, including synaptic...i get the seg fault (core... message again
[03:10] <PFY-guy> ok.... what kubuntu or ubuntu are you using?
[03:10] <dennister> kubuntu edgy
[03:10] <phobiac> dennister: Try deleting the contest of /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[03:11] <phobiac> conents*
[03:11] <phobiac> ...contents*
[03:12] <PFY-guy> thanks phobiac... im running out of ideas... my last thought was to not use konsole or X environment at all, but ot ctrl+alt+f2, log in, run the apt-get remove, then apt-get install and then ctrl+alt+f to get back into the gui and try synaptic from there again
[03:13] <PFY-guy> last ctrl+alt+f is ment to be ctrl+alt+f7
[03:13] <phobiac> PFY-guy: A quick google search makes me think that /maybe/ what I suggested should solve it.
[03:13] <dennister> phobiac: ty, that worked :)
[03:14] <phobiac> dennister: You're welcome. Merry christmas man.
[03:14] <PFY-guy> .. lol.. forgot about google... its early in the am here..
[03:14] <PFY-guy> thanks
[03:14] <dennister> hey, maybe i can now ript my gorgous new 3-cd tom waits collection :)
[03:14] <dennister> brawlers, bawlers, and bastards :)
[03:15] <php-freak> can someone tell me how I can open .rar files?
[03:15] <PFY-guy> you need to install unrar
[03:16] <phobiac> php: However with unrar sometimes newer rar files don't work.
[03:16] <prophit_inc> gm everyone
[03:16] <nixternal> unrar-nonfree supposedly fixex that issue
[03:16] <phobiac> php: I had this issue...last resort was I had to grab a 7zip .exe and boot into windows to unzip it.
[03:17] <phobiac> nix: Ah, okay.
[03:17] <prophit_inc> anyone know of an app that will let me make really futuristic pictures without any real art talent?
[03:17] <nixternal> prophit_inc: gimp
[03:17] <nixternal> i have no art talent and i can use it
[03:17] <php-freak> so what should I download to open .rar files?
[03:17] <nixternal> plus there are a lot of good tutorials for gimp as well
[03:17] <prophit_inc> yeah i dont really like gimp
[03:17] <phobiac> prophit: Kidnap an artist.
[03:18] <phobiac> Although that's not really an app.
[03:18] <PFY-guy> php-freak: unrar, and unrar-nonfree
[03:18] <prophit_inc> didnt really work for me the way i wanted it to....it took control of all my pic types
[03:18] <nat> Hi, can someone help me to configure my wifi connexion ?
[03:18] <PFY-guy> ark will use it to view and extract rar
[03:18] <phobiac> nat: What's the issue?
[03:18] <phobiac> Won't connect?
[03:18] <nixternal> prophit_inc: how did it take control of all ofyour pic types?
[03:19] <php-freak> is it part of the package manager?
[03:19] <nat>  iwlist eth1 scan
[03:19] <nat> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[03:19] <prophit_inc> like when it was installed after that...every picture i clicked on opened in gimp
[03:19] <nat> and I also have something in dmesg
[03:19] <nixternal> hmm...every pic i click on still opens in gwenview or whatever konqi uses
[03:19] <PFY-guy> php-freak: more like a seperate app that ark can use as a plugin i think
[03:19] <nat> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[03:19] <php-freak> I installed it, but I don't think ark knows it theres
[03:20] <phobiac> nat: try installing the wlassitant
[03:20] <PFY-guy> php-freak: sorry, u mean available through apt, synaptic, adept
[03:20] <prophit_inc> yeah i dont run linux anymore...but i still try to go open source
[03:20] <nixternal> nat: are you using bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[03:20] <prophit_inc> company puters and they run windows
[03:20] <nat> I don't know I just finish the install of kubuntu
[03:20] <PFY-guy> php-freak:, you may have to log off and back on again
[03:20] <phobiac> prophit: There's something you man make fractals with
[03:20] <PFY-guy> (or close and re-open konqueror and ark)
[03:21] <php-freak> I did, I restarted it
[03:21] <phobiac> I think it's called apophosis
[03:21] <nixternal> nat: lspci |grep Broadcom
[03:21] <nat> I ve wlassistant but ifup don't want to bring my eth up
[03:21] <nixternal> nat: what card is listed?
[03:21] <php-freak> pfy-guy: yea I download it thgouht apt
[03:21] <prophit_inc> whats a fractal?
[03:21] <nat> :00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:21] <PFY-guy> php-freak: when you click on the file and ark opens does it read it?
[03:21] <nixternal> nat: with broadcom cards you need to either use bcm43xx-fwcutter if your card supports it
[03:21] <prophit_inc> i want to make really nice abstract kinda art....
[03:21] <phobiac> prophit: Google is your friend
[03:21] <php-freak> hold on let me check the message
[03:21] <prophit_inc> wierd shit you know
[03:22] <nat> it's a linksys pcmcia
[03:22] <phobiac> prophit: Then fractals might be perfect for you
[03:22] <php-freak> The utility unrar is not in your PATH. i get this message
[03:22] <nixternal> nat: you need to use ndiswrapper for that card
[03:23] <prophit_inc> well ill look at that program i found the site
[03:23] <PFY-guy> The utility unrar is not in your PATHThe utility unraphp-freak: one sec
[03:23] <nat> ha ok
[03:23] <nixternal> !ndiswrapper
[03:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:23] <prophit_inc> ty phobiac
[03:23] <phobiac> prophit: Np man. Merry christmas.
[03:23] <php-freak> PFY-guy: : okay thanks man ;)
[03:23] <phobiac> ! hotkeys
[03:23] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB
[03:23] <php-freak> !rar
[03:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:24] <php-freak> !info unrar-free
[03:24] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:24] <phobiac> Hmm nope that doesn't help me.
[03:24] <PFY-guy> php-freak: are both unrar and unrar-nonfree installed?
[03:24] <php-freak> im checking now
[03:25] <php-freak> unrar free is only
[03:25] <nixternal> unrar is the one that doesnt' support the newest rar formats
[03:25] <PFY-guy> install both..
[03:25] <php-freak> nixternal: Yea, and I think this might be a new rar format, is there anyways of resolving that.
[03:25] <nixternal> with rar i haven't had any issues opening a rar file, however i barely have to use it
[03:25] <php-freak> okay let me install both
[03:26] <dennister> this cd collection is just soooo cool...packed in a book that's about 1/2 inch thick; great gift for an english major
[03:26] <phobiac> php: You have access to a windows computer?
[03:26] <php-freak> lol no
[03:26] <php-freak> maybe I can send someone the file
[03:26] <mauro> just install unrar
[03:26] <php-freak> k hold on its installing
[03:26] <mauro> theres no point in installing both