[06:26] <mikebot> Camden: Well, when I boot from CD, and choose from the list to install, I get like the loading thig, then I get a bunch of errors
[06:26] <mikebot> I have them written down
[06:26] <varsendaggr> foobear, it is a ./blender   i cd to the dir and run it from there
[06:27] <CanadaGradeEh> Yes, finally have Dapper
[06:27] <Camden> i have had that problem before
[06:27] <CanadaGradeEh> Quick XMMS question: Can I set my own custom hotkeys?
[06:27] <Camden> sometimes i just try it again
[06:27] <mikebot> Camden: i've tried twice
[06:27] <Camden> is it a labtop?
[06:27] <tokenbad> ok ran into a problem....I boot up and my panal don't show like it is supposed to...or I have it..then open a window off of it..and shrink that window back down...then my panel is gone...any idea how to fix this?
[06:27] <Camden> laptop
[06:27] <mikebot> no, desktop
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> diese: any of the windows oem disks
[06:28] <Camden> could be a bad cd
[06:28] <foobear> varsendaggr: don't understand u.  The latest .deb package for Ubuntu is 2.41
[06:28] <jbrimble> Where can I read about installing Windows programs with wine?
[06:28] <Camden> did you try the option to check the cd?
[06:28] <mikebot> no
[06:28] <mikebot> i don't think so
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jbrimble:  #wine
[06:28] <mikebot> do i boot from cd to try that?
[06:28] <Camden> yes
[06:28] <foobear> varsendaggr: so if you're trying to install 2.42, where'd you get it from?
[06:28] <mikebot> ok, i will try that
[06:28] <mikebot> and then try installing again
[06:28] <mikebot> i'll be back
[06:28] <Camden> it is one of the options
[06:28] <jbrimble> nobody's there
[06:28] <varsendaggr> blender.org
[06:28] <Camden> while it is booting
[06:28] <mikebot> thanks for the help
[06:29] <mikebot> brb
[06:29] <mikebot> ok
[06:29] <Camden> you have to watch carefully while it is booting
[06:29] <TokenBad> ok ran into a problem....I boot up and my panal don't show like it is supposed to...or I have it..then open a window off of it..and shrink that window back down...then my panel is gone...any idea how to fix this?
[06:30] <Camden> it's a new install?
[06:30] <varsendaggr> i can just run it from the command but   i want to symlink to the thing   but i think i have it figured out
[06:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[06:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:30] <portalfire> does anyone know how to setup the default desktop for vncserver
[06:30] <portalfire> mine comes up with a blank x server screen (x cursor,etc)
[06:31] <TokenBad> why is the panel in the new kubuntu disappering?
[06:31] <foobear> varsendaggr:  well first you'll need to unistall the official Ubuntu release with something like Synaptic, then try to compile the source you got from blender.org (assuming its source and not a binary), and compile the source via the directions most likely in a README somewhere in the top level of the source.
[06:31] <winman> my desktop has suddenly gone all blank, no icons no nothing ... is there a way to recover?
[06:31] <pussfeller> !restricted
[06:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <liquidten2> winman: Is nautilus running
[06:31] <bruenig> winman, no panels?
[06:32] <TokenBad> no panels here
[06:32] <TokenBad> and no icons
[06:32] <winman> panels are there ...just nothing on the desktop ..
[06:32] <varsendaggr> foobear, i have a completly different question.
[06:32] <liquidten2> winman: run nautilus
[06:32] <CanadaGradeEh> Anyone?
[06:32] <winman> liquidten2, ok
[06:32] <CanadaGradeEh> lol
[06:32] <TokenBad> I can't get my console to load either
[06:32] <computer13137> Hello.
[06:32] <varsendaggr> how do i setup a script that would be run in a shell
[06:32] <varsendaggr> ie export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[06:32] <CanadaGradeEh> I've tried but I can't figure out how to set my own custom hotkeys for XMMS. Is it possible?
[06:33] <computer13137> I have just setup MySQL 4.0.24 on my server, and I would like to set a root password for MySQL to "thispass".  How do I do it?
[06:33] <varsendaggr> i want to run that right before i run blender
[06:33] <tritium> varsendaggr: what's your status with the Actiontec?
[06:33] <_nano_> Hello, I had an original installation of ubuntu. I have made another installation of ubuntu in a separate partition for experimentation and stuff. Which grub menu.lst should I edit so that I can ahve the original ubuntu listed on the top?
[06:34] <bruenig> CanadaGradeEh, there is a program called xbindkeys and you can assign any command to any key or series of keys, if you can figure out what the shortcuts would be on the command line you could use that, probably a bit difficult though
[06:34] <foobear> varsendaggr: could put it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc assuming you're using bash.
[06:34] <winman> liquidten2, I see several instances of nautilus running, but some of them have this --no-desktop argument passed to them ..
[06:34] <foobear> varsendaggr: you're just trying to set up some system variables.  That's the easiest way to do that.
[06:34] <CanadaGradeEh> Bruenig: Thank you. I'll just deal with the default keys for now until I get other priorities in order :)
[06:34] <foobear> varsendaggr: Ah...
[06:35] <varsendaggr> tritium, i am not sure yet
[06:35] <varsendaggr> foobear, thanks
[06:35] <tritium> varsendaggr: okay...let me know
[06:35] <CanadaGradeEh> Another question concerning hotkeys: My media keys on my keyboard.
[06:35] <CanadaGradeEh> When I push the up/down volume buttons, a little notification on the screen shows me that I am indeed turning my volume up and down. However, the volume doesn't actually change!
[06:35] <InvisiblePinkUni> what is the tortoisesvn equivalent in ubuntu for SVN GUI?
[06:35] <TokenBad> no panels here
[06:35] <TokenBad> and no icons
[06:35] <Camden> no one knows how to type accents?
[06:35] <TokenBad> I can't get my console to load either
[06:36] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu tell me about tortoise
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about tortoise - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:36] <varsendaggr> ok....  what do i add to the top of a text file so that it knows that it needs to run whatever is in the file as a shell script
[06:36] <InvisiblePinkUni> ubotu tell me about svn
[06:36] <_nano_> !grub
[06:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:36] <foobear> varsendaggr.  Create a script in a directory that's included in you $PATH.  If you call it "blender" that directory needs to exist in your path before /usr/bin does.  Best bet is to just call it something else like "myblender".  Should look something like this...
[06:36] <jon27kc> _nano_,  the experimental partition is bootable? Anyway, I'd assume you normally boot from the regular one, so change the list in there.  I also put a descriptive title to help me not get mixed up, too.
[06:36] <bruenig> CanadaGradeEh, that is the same for me, any graphical attempt to adjust sound does nothing. That little speaker that came on the panel by default didn't do anything
[06:37] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper AMD64 on an HP Pavilion dv5000 laptop with an ATi Radeon Xpress 200M. I cannot get the binary drivers to work, they crash the system on boot, and cannot get anything to work with OpenGL. Is there a way to either do software OpenGL, or somehow fix the problem with the binary video card driver?
[06:37] <Camden> the keyboard volume control works for me
[06:38] <jon27kc> bruenig, I find opening kaffeine or vls always sets some volume control to zero. So I'm in the habit now of looking at alsamixer or aumix before I start playing.
[06:38] <bruenig> I bet if I used the default sound from my motherboard, it would work by I have an extra sound card because windows wouldn't detect the motherboard sound and I couldn't get a driver
[06:38] <_nano_> jon27kc, yeah that partition is bootable. I have two partitions of ubuntu now. I just want to change the order in which they appear on the boot list. I was confused as to where I should make the change. The older ubuntu installation or the newer one?
[06:38] <varsendaggr> foobear, thankyou
[06:39] <foobear> #!/bin/bash
[06:39] <foobear> export VAR=whatever-you-want-to-export
[06:39] <foobear> export VAR2=whatever-else-you-want-to-export
[06:39] <foobear> /usr/bin/blender
[06:39] <foobear> ;
[06:39] <jon27kc> _nano_, you might as well change both.  That's what I do. I had a situation where I was always booting from the wrong disk, and never figured it out. It seemed to fix itself... ???
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[06:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:39] <foobear> minus the ';' at the end, though that shouldn't hurt.
[06:40] <_nano_> jon27kc, the menu.lst in the older installation doesn't have any entries pointing to the newer installation :-S
[06:40] <CanadaGradeEh> Any idea how I can fix this? I'd like to control my volume via the keyboard
[06:40] <_nano_> jon27kc, in other words, the menu.lst is not dynamic?
[06:40] <CanadaGradeEh> Or will you recommend xbind again?
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> CanadaGradeEh, you should be able to map the keys
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> did you try that?
[06:41] <danf_1979> Is there any especial protocol to communicate with Ubuntu repositories? where can I find info about it?
[06:41] <foobear> Now, who knows anything about GD configuring sound drivers to use joysticks?
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> System, Preferences, Keyboard shortcuts
[06:41] <bruenig> CanadaGradeEh, i have found attempts to control sound at all within dapper doesn't work, I just adjust my speaker sound with the dial, thankfully it doesn't default by turning the sound off
[06:42] <jon27kc> _nano_, I'm not sure what you mean but I always hit spacebar if in doubt and choose what I want.  I also prune all those extra ones Grub puts in with every kernel change! Changing the ones I've already put in, if need be.
[06:42] <romulo> whats the edgy channel?
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> Yes, that was an annoying problem with 4.10
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> I just upgraded
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> romulo, ubuntu+1
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> No, I haven't tried  it nomasteryoda
[06:42] <CanadaGradeEh> Thank you
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> worked for me
[06:43] <_nano_> jon27kc, aah ok. really appreciate your response
[06:43] <jon27kc> _nano_, Thanks...I'm new here and uneasy about making mistakes. But glad I can help.
[06:44] <ic56> danf_1979: the ubuntu reporsitories are accessed by ftp
[06:44] <InvisiblePinkUni> any suggestions for a easy to use SVN GUI
[06:44] <Flannel> InvisiblePinkUni: SubCommander is one of the few usable ones
[06:45] <danf_1979> ok ic56, nice to know that. Do you know any developer resources regarding this topic?
[06:45] <InvisiblePinkUni> thanks Flannel
[06:45] <Flannel> romulo: #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <ic56> danf_1979: it's a well documented protocol.  What do you need to do?
[06:46] <Flannel> danf_1979: you can get them via ftp or http, there are RFCs all over the place
[06:46] <BrokenSegue> on bootup GRUB displays Ubuntu as an option 3 times, any reason why I can't delete the other two? (I haven't installed ubuntu twice)
[06:46] <jon27kc> BrokenSegue, I edit menu.lst extensively.  Grub duplicates entries almost every time there's a kernel update.
[06:47] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: it should be multiples of two, a regular, and a recovery mode for each kernel you have.  You can delete the other two, just make sure you delete the right other two ;)  You might also want to remove whatever old kernels you have
[06:47] <henzo> hi
[06:47] <henzo> hello
[06:47] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:right i ahve 6 in reality
[06:47] <danf_1979> ic56, search for files, only that till now
[06:47] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: did you reinstall ubuntu? or upgrade your kernel?
[06:47] <henzo> hey, someone can tell me were i find gnome themes???
[06:47] <henzo> please
[06:47] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:I don't remeber doing either (I'm a noob
[06:47] <BrokenSegue> )
[06:48] <jon27kc> BrokenSegue, I just look real carefully to make sure they're duplicates, then cut away. And I keep one old kernel just in case.
[06:48] <BrokenSegue> thanks all
[06:48] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: are all three the same kernel version?  Or do they have different numbers?
[06:48] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:haven't oppened the file yeet
[06:48] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: and, instead of just removing them out of grub, you can uninstall them, via apt/synaptic/etc.  That'll remove their grub entries automatically
[06:49] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:what will they be listed under in synaptic?
[06:49] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: linux-image-[versions]
[06:49] <jon27kc> Flannel, the other day I did a regular upgrade (not dist-upgrade) and there were kernel changes and Grub put a new set of entries in menu.lst--duplicates, since this was not a new kernel.
[06:50] <Flannel> jon27kc: er, what?  Kernel changes  = new kernel, which means you have two kernels to choose from (and two kernels installed)
[06:50] <BrokenSegue> Look like i have...23, 25 and 26
[06:51] <Flannel> BrokenSegue: right, if 26 (which is probably what youre running now) is running fine for you, you're safe to delete the others
[06:51] <BrokenSegue> Flannel:Alright, thanks again
[06:51] <jon27kc> Flannel, Yes, sorry, I should have said they were minor changes--but that's a new kernel, right.  I pruned out the ones just before those.  Sorry for the confusion.
[06:52] <dandesousa> May anyone help me with enabling direct rendering?
[06:52] <Flannel> jon27kc: right, except, if you only deleted the grub entries, you still have them installed
[06:52] <jon27kc> Flannel, Yes, I know; I have so much disk space it doesn't bother me. Sometimes in an idle moment I go uninstall such things, though.
[06:54] <Camden> uninstalling is for more than just disk space
[06:55] <Camden> it can prevent problems sometimes
[06:55] <Camden> by making your system as simples as possible
[06:55] <Camden> and helps narrow down troubleshooting
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Camden:  never head that before..
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Also gives you other bootable options when you have a problem
[06:56] <Flannel> nah, not for old kernels, they just sit and take up disk space.
[06:56] <jon27kc> Camden, I see your point...but it can also be disastrous: I found out by experience more than once! :)
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> Jack_Sparrow, like keep'n the ship clean of the extra pirates =D
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> I love having extra distros to boot into
[06:56] <Camden> that is true... if it ain't broke...
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> esp since I manage a LUG
[06:56] <jns> How do I get Ubuntu working on a Macbook Pro?
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> cool .. fun
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> I installed it on an iMac
[06:57] <jns> With intel?
[06:57] <jon27kc> nomasteryoda, I was proud of myself when I figured out how to run two X sessions at once so I could help a friend over the phone.  I'm not very advanced!
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Thow them in the hold... never know when I may need them
[06:57] <skavenge> gkrellm is the spiff.
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> but had to do the old trick of installing breezy then upgrading to dapper
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> jon27kc, good for you
[06:57] <jon27kc> skavenge, I cannot live without gkrellm.  I feel lost and shaky.
[06:57] <jbrimble> Anyone know where the Wine Terminal is?
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> linux opens so many doors
[06:58] <skavenge> jon27kc: ive only just been enlightened and it is awesome.
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> and closes windows
[06:58] <jon27kc> nomasteryoda, and keeps me up so late...
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> llol
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> ya i get up at 6
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jbrimble: read some more... go to terminal and winecfg ?
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> jon27kc: like a bad drug habit
[06:58] <jon27kc> nomasteryoda, sorry for what I just caused to appear...this is so confusing sometimes...anyway I was about to say I get an average of four hours' sleep.
[06:59] <DJRipper> hello
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> recommended reading for the Mac is in this forum... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=133
[06:59] <cykon> jns:I don't think dapper supports macintel
[06:59] <cykon> ...but edgy should
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> ya me too jon27kc
[07:00] <crimsun> cykon: not officially but it works on some models.
[07:00] <DJRipper> orinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?
[07:00] <cykon> ah...yea i was only goin by the edgy future goals
[07:00] <cykon> :)
[07:00] <jns> cykon, I got it installed just kind of.. incorrectly.
[07:00] <jon27kc> Has anyone here had the pretty widespread problem of Nautilus crashing every time, on account of not being able to allocate a huge amount, almost 2GB, of memory?
[07:01] <DJRipper> orinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?
[07:01] <jns> When I selected windows on refit it sent me to linux
[07:01] <jns> I think I installed lilo incorrectly.
[07:01] <Jack_Sparrow> jon27kc: No and I run it as gksudo way more than I should
[07:01] <jon27kc> Jack_Sparrow, maybe I should try that. ;)
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> I even placed a launcher for it on my top bar
[07:02] <DJRipper> orinoco-0.15rc4.tar will work with Dell Truemobile 1150?
[07:02] <jon27kc> I don't use Nautilus regularly but like it sometimes. It will not run at all (at least with normal user) anymore.
[07:02] <DJRipper> can someone help me?
[07:03] <Flannel> jon27kc: did, sometime in the past, you run it with sudo?
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> jon27kc: You have other problems
[07:03] <jon27kc> Flannel, I'm sure I did run it with sudo several times (out of necessity).
[07:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Wrong
[07:03] <Flannel> jon27kc: then that's a likely cause of your problem.
[07:03] <Crescendo> I'm getting wretched quality from my onboard sound controller... I think it has something to do with my setting up of 3D sound.  What would be the best way to remedy this?  Is there a dpkg-reconfigure option?
[07:03] <Flannel> jon27kc: gksudo is how you run graphical apps as super user
[07:03] <foobear> DJRipper: What do you mean "work with"?
[07:04] <DJRipper> compadable to allow me to use the card
[07:04] <jon27kc> Flannel, Is that just a Gnome thing? I haven't had problems with non-Gnome apps as root.
[07:04] <tritium> DJRipper: are you sure the orinico module that comes with ubuntu's kernel won't work for you?
[07:04] <Ubuntu> hey dudes
[07:04] <DJRipper> im installin
[07:04] <Ubuntu> Did you know that computers are now capable of mind reading?
[07:04] <DJRipper> ive had the problem with an earlier buiuld
[07:04] <Camden> kewl
[07:05] <Flannel> jon27kc: gksudo sets up root things better, if you run graphical stuff with sudo, you can mess up some configs.  gksudo for gnome, kdesu for kde, gksu for xubuntu
[07:05] <Camden> what's on my mind, then?
[07:05] <Ubuntu> Anyone know how this is possible? http://revver.com/video/40311
[07:05] <Ubuntu> I didn't know a computer could do that...
[07:05] <foobear> Ubuntu: Big deal.  So is the NSA.
[07:05] <jon27kc> Flannel, That's totally new for me.  Thanks.  I will copy that and refer to it.
[07:05] <Ubuntu> lol foobear
[07:05] <Camden> nsa = ... (oops can't say it in this room)
[07:06] <DJRipper> lol
[07:06] <efuzzyone> i get aticonfig not found, what package should I install for it to be there?
[07:06] <Flannel> Ubuntu: because none of the cards in the latter screen are in the former.  But #ubuntu isn't the correct place for this, #ubuntu-offtopic is
[07:07] <Nekow42> How much of a performance increase will I see switching from the generic 386 kernel to the K7?
[07:07] <jon27kc> I read about the computer that responds to brain impulses. I'm sure it has promise but it's pretty elementary right now.
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jon27kc: A better approach is the seal team using sensors on the tongue to relay info to the divers
[07:08] <skavenge> jon27kc: not that elementry, they use them with parapalegics
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry for the off topic.. goodnight all
[07:08] <Crescendo> How would I go about enabling 5.1 channel audio on my audio controller, a three port setup... in Windows I would enable "Mic as Rear Out" option... ?
[07:08] <Flannel> Nekow42: well, 386 can't use any of the additional pipelines
[07:09] <Nekow42> Flannel: Is it worth it, then?
[07:09] <skavenge> i tried updating to the 686 kernel on this celeron M processor in this laptop and it -crawled- compared to 386 ;/
[07:09] <Flannel> Nekow42: well, considering it's hardly any trouble to change, I'd say yes
[07:10] <Nekow42> Flannel: Cool. I'm actually asking in retrospect, I've already done it...
[07:10] <Nekow42> Flannel: Thanks a bundle, I'll dump the 386 off my machine, free up ~80MB
[07:11] <blind> ACK! Someone help :[
[07:11] <blind> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18837
[07:11] <Flannel> Nekow42: if you've updated recently, I suggest letting it sit for a while, make sure your box doesnt have issues with the new kernel, before removing it
[07:11] <ToHellWithGA> holla ballas.  i just install aiglx and like it.  how can i setup something similar to MS Remote Desktop?  I've used VNC in the past and found it rather inferior.
[07:12] <Camden> it is a stupid card trick
[07:12] <snoops> ToHellWithGA ah well.. vnc, another option is freenx/nx server
[07:12] <Camden> made into a movie
[07:13] <snoops> nx server and nx client I've found is SOO fast it's ridiculous
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> snoops: is there a client for windoze?
[07:13] <Camden> namely none of the cards in the first display are in the second display
[07:13] <snoops> yes ToHellWithGA
[07:13] <jon27kc> Going to go see if I can fix Nautilus.
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> ok.  thanks snoops, i'll look into freenx
[07:13] <snoops> ToHellWithGA the only thing though..you can't connect to a specified session with nx..
[07:13] <snoops> it creates a new session
[07:14] <snoops> you can create a session with nx, then suspend it and reconnect to the same one later
[07:14] <MojoRison> hello......can anyone help me, having a hell of a time getting my java to work on a new install
[07:14] <snoops> !java
[07:15] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:15] <ron999> ic56 are you busy?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> snoops: i'm not too picky on the session.  it's easy enough to kill a process and restart it in the new X session
[07:16] <snoops> ToHellWithGA :)
[07:16] <DJRipper> Can you kill a windows pc from ubuntu, like shut it down?
[07:16] <DJRipper> or restart?
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> blind: what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:16] <blind> fyrestrtr: I've fixed it now.
[07:16] <blind> Thank you though :]
[07:16] <Nekow42> DJRipper: Through VNC...
[07:16] <skavenge> DJRipper: ifyou throw it hard enough at the window machine sure
[07:16] <ron999> henry54 are you busy?
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: pull the power plug.
[07:17] <DJRipper> lol
[07:17] <prophet> firefox keeps crashing for some reason... where are the crash logs
[07:17] <snoops> DJRipper you could login through rdesktop and do it..also if you're on a domain
[07:17] <DJRipper> VNC?
[07:17] <snoops> I believe you can issue commands
[07:17] <henry54> ron999 sort of... but go ahead.
[07:17] <MojoRison> thanks snoops......going to try it out
[07:17] <Nekow42> DJRipper: http://www.tightvnc.com/
[07:17] <DJRipper> anything specific have to be loaded on the winblows terminal?
[07:18] <ron999> henry54 when you are not busy please will you help me again with floppy disk problem
[07:18] <prophet> ?
[07:18] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: you need to enable remote desktop, and must login with an account that [a]  has a password [b]  has administrative rights (or) has been specifically allowed to login to remote desktop.
[07:18] <efuzzyone> i get aticonfig not found, what package should I install for it to be there?
[07:19] <snoops> hmm if you can run mmc computer management on wine you can use that to shutdown other windows pcs on the network DJRipper
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> !ati > efuzzyone
[07:19] <DJRipper> snoops thats what i want to do
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: are you really that lazy that you can't walk up and unplug it? :P
[07:20] <Nekow42> DJRipper: But, you want to do it without installing anything on the win box?
[07:20] <henry54> ron999 let's come back to my questions from yesterday: does the floppy show up properly if you enter the BIOS at reboot? do you know what the BIOS is and how to get there? (it varies depending on the motherboard manufacturer of your PC)
[07:20] <mil000000> alguien habla espaol?
[07:20] <fyrestrtr> !es
[07:20] <Hobbsee> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:20] <ron999> henry54 can you open a room here?
[07:20] <DJRipper> exactaly
[07:20] <h3h_timo> !ati
[07:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:20] <h3h_timo> !xgl
[07:20] <henry54> ron999 i'm on #sydney
[07:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:21] <snoops> DJRipper let me have a quick look
[07:21] <DJRipper> kk
[07:21] <ron999> henry54 i don't understand #sydney?
[07:21] <henry54> ron999 irc channel #sydney, as opposed to #ubuntu
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> ron999: he means : type /join #sydney
[07:21] <Nekow42> Hmm... How do I get foreign characters to stop looking like ? in nautilus?
[07:22] <ron999> henry54 i will try that
[07:22] <henry54> ron999 how in the world are you connected to this channel? via some web interface ?
[07:22] <cyphase> *sigh*
[07:22] <henry54> tell me about it...
[07:23] <snoops> DJRipper http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/60324-remote-shutdown-windows-linux-box.html <- that looks good.. the python script - 4th post
[07:23] <Nekow42> henry54: Currenly, you're connected to the Ubuntu channel... Channel in IRC is what you would refer to as a "Chatroom" in other online chat sites
[07:23] <odat> anyone up for reviewing a new open source service?
[07:23] <cyphase> what service?
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> odat: that does what?
[07:23] <odat> fossystems.com
[07:24] <DJRipper> whats default user on fresh install
[07:24] <prwlr> hello, how can i use the package files installed in a net-connected box to a box with no internet?
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> what does it do?
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> DJRipper: on windows?
[07:24] <henry54> ok. all this fancy new stuff... chatroom... :-)
[07:24] <MojoRison> thanks snoop
[07:24] <DJRipper> Ubuntu
[07:24] <odat> i need feedback since i'm close to launching it
[07:24] <cyphase> hmm
[07:24] <cyphase> you need javascript enabled for it to even load
[07:25] <zcat[1] > good concept; nobody sells preinstalled linux...
[07:25] <DJRipper> whats default user on fresh install
[07:25] <DJRipper> Ubuntu
[07:25] <Flannel> DJRipper: whatever you set it up for
[07:25] <zcat[1] > otoh I probably wouldn't want someone else's idea of a good install..
[07:26] <DJRipper> i didnt set a user up
[07:26] <DJRipper> it*
[07:26] <Nekow42> odat: No doctype tag, or character encoding...
[07:26] <Flannel> DJRipper: yes you did.  It asked you for a username and password while you were installing.  Unless this is a OEM installation?
[07:26] <odat> Nekow42, not sure what you mean
[07:26] <zcat[1] > DJRipper: If you don't enter a username and password the installer won't continue afaik. There is no default user, you have to enter something to do an install.
[07:27] <odat> cyphase, would a metatag be better?
[07:27] <DJRipper> fresh install oem
[07:27] <cpk2> odat: why cant i open the help column tab links in a new column? i hate being forced to open new windows
[07:27] <Nekow42> odat: http://tinyurl.com/ma5gx
[07:28] <bruenig> If I wanted to remove all the files in a directory, without removing the directory itself, is there a way to do that? i.e. some simple command
[07:28] <Flannel> DJRipper: ah, that's different then.  You need to run... sudo oem-config-prepare  if you need to login, the user is 'oem'
[07:28] <DJRipper> oem was it
[07:28] <DJRipper> lol
[07:28] <zcat[1] > rm -rf foo/* will remove everything in /foo but not foo itself..
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:29] <bruenig> zcat[1] , thanks
[07:29] <Nekow42> bruenig: A warning, that will remove evcerying in directories below that one too...
[07:29] <Flannel> DJRipper: once you are in, run that oem-config-prepare (if you're not already setup to reconfigure everything), to finish up the installation (you'll need to reboot)
[07:29] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, do i need to point the repositories to /var/cache/apt/archives? or can apt-get install this_app work after the copy?
[07:29] <Nekow42> *everything
[07:30] <bruenig> Nekow42, yeah I know, I didn't even think about using the wildcard character,
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: no, just copy whatever is in the net-connected pc's /var/cache/apt/archives directory to the non-net one, then just issue apt-get install as normal
[07:30] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, great thanks dude
[07:31] <zcat[1] > if you want to remove all the files and leave the directory structure; find foo/ -type f -exec rm {} \;
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: later, you can setup an apt proxy or cache so you don't have to keep doing this :)
[07:31] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, one more question: does this /var/cache/apt/archives contents get deleted automatically through time? i mean doesn't this get cleaned periodically or something?
[07:31] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: only if you issue apt-get clean
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: otherwise, I don't think it does
[07:32] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, ah yes thanks, how's that apt proxy or cache thingie work?
[07:32] <Nekow42> fyrestrtr: Thatnks for the reminder
[07:32] <zcat[1] > there's settings under spftware properites iirc to clean it out after packages are applied, or after they've been superceeded, or whenever...
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> prwlr: look it up, you have to edit the sources list
[07:32] <acad> whats the best tool to use for remastering ubuntu? all i want is something that works with the 6.06 version
[07:33] <acad> or a tutorial that is up to date with it
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> acad: what do you mean 'remaster'?
[07:33] <prwlr> fyrestrtr, ok thanks much! have a good day
[07:33] <acad> fyrestrtr to add a program
[07:33] <sparkman> !mplayer
[07:33] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[07:33] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> any program, or a specific program?
[07:33] <odat> ok javascript out
[07:33] <odat> metatag in
[07:33] <acad> fryrestr a specific program
[07:33] <odat> anymore suggestions?
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> acad: like what?
[07:34] <acad> fyrestrtr what difference does it make?
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> I don't understand what you want to do.
[07:34] <acad> fyrestrtr if you don't understand what i want to do then you don't know the answer
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> you may not know how to ask the question properly.
[07:35] <highphilosopher> acad: what's they question
[07:35] <Nekow42> fyrestrtr: I think he wants to create his own custom install disk
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> I may know the answer, but I can't understand your question. Its happened before.
[07:35] <odat> cyphase, i change it so you don't need javascript to get to it
[07:35] <acad> highpilosopher i'm looking for a tutorial on remastering (it seems to be called customizing in ubuntu land)
[07:36] <highphilosopher> acad: hang on...
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> acad: you need the oem tools, which are on the alternate install cd.
[07:36] <acad> fyrestrtr it is a very simple question,
[07:36] <highphilosopher> acad: you looking for live bootable? or install?
[07:36] <highphilosopher> acad: or both?
[07:36] <sparkman> any reason why # apt-get -t edgy install perl perl-base perl-modules # doesn't work?
[07:36] <acad> highphilosopher the 6.06tls version that is both a live cd and install
[07:36] <highphilosopher> k
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> acad: you could have said, "Hey, how do I make a custom livecd using the 6.06 as a template?" that would have made sense.
[07:37] <highphilosopher> acad: here ya go... http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/ubuntu/custom-livecd.htm
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> odat: what does your service do exactly?
[07:38] <acad> highphilosopher that is nice, what i'm having problems with is that with 6.06tls it crashs when i get to the squash part of the tutorial... i suspect something changed as i check the md5sum, ram, and disk space.
[07:39] <highphilosopher> acad: hmmm, any error msgs, or just a dead crash?
[07:39] <minerale> I've been hearing about AOL all my life, never seen it or tried it, now that they have the free plans, I called in and I got my aol account --- free, anyone here ever used it?
[07:39] <odat> its a place designated and unified for all the open source system builder creators
[07:39] <eobanb> minerale, for free..?
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> minerale: call, and cancel. Its not worth it.
[07:39] <sparkman> acad: memtest86+? :)
[07:40] <acad> hibhphiloxophdf segmentation fault
[07:40] <minerale> fyrestrtr: did I mention aol is free now ?
[07:40] <sparkman> so does anyone know why apt-get -t edgy doesn't work? :)
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> minerale: I heard you, call and cancel. You could have gotten it for free before too.
[07:40] <ku> Whoa, why is my music playing at like 1.5x the normal speed? lol
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> minerale: I know people using it for 3 years for free.
[07:40] <jipi> !wmv
[07:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> sparkman: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:41] <sparkman> fyrestrtr: +1?
[07:41] <minerale> is it possible to sign on AOL but not sign on the IM ?
[07:41] <ku> nono, i think it's my computer... often, my computer's clock will run faster and whatnot... and i guess it affects media in linux
[07:41] <bruenig> minerale, watch out when canceling, might get something like this, http://media.putfile.com/AOL-Cancellation
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> bruenig: lol that's a classic.
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> sparkman: yes, that's the channel for development versions of ubuntu
[07:42] <minerale> bruenig: they change the procedure, I called, the lady was nice, and no kidding they have a free plan now,, completely free, that bad publicity must have pushed them
[07:42] <acad> highphilosopher any suggestions on the segmentation fault issue?
[07:43] <Nekow42> acad: Run memtest86+
[07:43] <highphilosopher> acad: I don't know honestly, Usually segmentation faults happen because of lack of disk space or lack of RAM.
[07:43] <Flannel> sparkman: which ubuntu mirror are you using?
[07:43] <minerale> bruenig: http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/636194/
[07:43] <bruenig> minerale, i tried to cancel with them, it was pretty funny, not as bad as that but they were certain that this was one of the worse decisions of my life
[07:43] <highphilosopher> acad: how much RAM do you have / how big is the squashfs?
[07:43] <cvp> anyone: good GPL/OSS media player to play commercial DVD's?
[07:43] <eobanb> !restricted
[07:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:43] <acad> highphilosopher my ram is 512mb and i made a 2gb swap
[07:43] <tsume> cvp: xine, mplayer, many
[07:44] <cvp> tsume: which do you use / recommend?
[07:44] <tsume> cvp: you must learn how to download the css decoder
[07:44] <sparkman> Flannel: 6.06 TLS
[07:44] <_atomic> sup?
[07:44] <tsume> cvp: depends how I'm feeling :)
[07:44] <Nekow42> cvp: Totem can do it, look into easyubuntu
[07:44] <avis> has anyone used k9copy ?
[07:44] <cvp> tsume: "css decoder?"
[07:44] <highphilosopher> acad: that should be plenty, unless you MAY have a bad stick of RAM?
[07:44] <Flannel> sparkman: er, no. Which mirror, ie the url in your sources.list
[07:44] <highphilosopher> acad: I don't see anything else that could be causing the problem
[07:44] <acad> highphilosopher hmm i doubt it is my ram
[07:44] <cvp> Nekow42: i've never liked totem - is that unfounded?
[07:44] <sparkman> Flannel: oh, should be the official us mirror
[07:44] <tsume> Nekow42: some people perfer the real thing
[07:45] <Nekow42> cvp: which player do you use?
[07:45] <Flannel> sparkman: that's probably why.  Edgy isn't distributed to the mirrors, just archive.ubuntu.com, as far as I know.
[07:45] <cvp> Nekow42: mostly VLC, but i'm not liking what it's doing with DVD's
[07:45] <highphilosopher> acad: You might submit a bug report on the squashfs tree
[07:45] <tsume> wha... php is slower than ruby? XD
[07:45] <cvp> tsume: what's a css decoder?
[07:45] <_atomic> good
[07:45] <tsume> http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html
[07:45] <Nekow42> cvp: xine has excellent support, along with whatever frontend you choose
[07:45] <cvp> Nekow42: my brother suggested gxine - is that any good?
[07:46] <acad> hmm  maybe i'll just base it off 6.04, is that stable?
[07:46] <boingolov> lol, php is not slower than ruby
[07:46] <cvp> Nekow42: (i run GNOME)
[07:46] <boingolov> evar
[07:46] <boingolov> even ruby on rails
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> cvp: content scrambling system = css -- what is used to encrypt dvds
[07:46] <sparkman> Flannel: ah, ok
[07:46] <Nekow42> cvp: Never used it, but xine plays dvds perfectly, and gxine is just a frontend, so it should too
[07:46] <Flannel> sparkman: although, I don't imagine trying to use edgy packages in breezy is a good idea.
[07:46] <cvp> fyrestrtr: any recommendations for a css decoder then?
[07:46] <cvp> Nekow42: Thanks!
[07:46] <Nekow42> cvp: youll need libdvdcss
[07:47] <Nekow42> cvp: I think it's called that...
[07:47] <sparkman> Flannel: heh, so what's the best way to get up-to-date perl packages?
[07:47] <bruenig> cvp, as long as you aren't in America, because that is illegal :D
[07:47] <boingolov> spark, perl -MCPAN -e shell
[07:47] <boingolov> as root
[07:47] <cvp> Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:47] <cvp> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:47] <cvp> is only available from another source
[07:47] <sparkman> boingolov: binary please
[07:47] <Nekow42> cvp: Heard of easyubuntu?
[07:48] <bruenig> libdvdcss, cannot be downloaded in the repos
[07:48] <highphilosopher> acad: should be
[07:48] <cvp> Nekow42: nope
[07:48] <boingolov> spark, do you mean the perl interpreter itsself, or perl packages?
[07:48] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[07:48] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:48] <sparkman> boingolov: interpreter
[07:48] <cvp> bruenig: I thought it's illegal to try to redistribute bootleg coppies
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> cvp: read the restricted formats wiki entry
[07:48] <highphilosopher> tsume:  that cannot be right
[07:48] <boingolov> spark, then use apt-get or synaptics
[07:48] <bruenig> use that SeveasPackages link
[07:48] <Nekow42> cvp: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[07:48] <Flannel> sparkman: compile them yourself, look for a deb at an unofficial repository, see if it's in backports
[07:48] <sparkman> boingolov: i did, but it's not available from the dapper repository :)
[07:49] <boingolov> really?
[07:49] <sparkman> Flannel: ok, where can i find a dapper backports repostiory? wiki.ubuntu.org ?
[07:49] <boingolov> I have perl installed
[07:49] <sparkman> boingolov: not 5.8.8
[07:49] <highphilosopher> tsume:  hang on lemme run this code on my ws
[07:49] <boingolov> can't remember where I grabbed it from
[07:49] <bruenig> cvp, if you use the Seveas Packages, you can install it via apt-get
[07:49] <boingolov> well, if you want new perl, you will have to compile it ;)
[07:49] <boingolov> then do something like checkinstall
[07:49] <boingolov> or you can compile it via cpan
[07:49] <boingolov> which would be invoked via:
[07:50] <boingolov> perl -MCPAN -e shell
[07:50] <boingolov> HEHE
[07:50] <Flannel> !tell sparkman about easysource~
[07:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysource~ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:50] <Flannel> !tell sparkman about easysource
[07:50] <bruenig> cvp, or you can just use this http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/pool/libdvdcss/1.2.8/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb
[07:50] <ku> !antivirus
[07:50] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[07:50] <ku> ^^ k
[07:50] <sparkman> Flannel: ok, thanks :)
[07:51] <cmug> "We're sorry; the installer crashed. Please file a bug report at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug and a developer will attend to the problem as soon as possible."
[07:51] <cmug> BAH
[07:51] <cvp> bruenig: and what will libdvdcss help me do?
[07:51] <alekz> hi, in wich file can i see the list of my installed desktops availables on the User Sessiones startup menu ?
[07:51] <bruenig> cvp, view dvds, I didn't see your initial problem just that you needed libdvdcss
[07:51] <Flannel> cmug: try the alternate CD
[07:51] <boingolov> seriously, if you have some specific need for some bleeding edge perl, then you shouldn't be scared of compiling.  otherwise, go with 5.8.7
[07:51] <cmug> Flannel, the alternate CD is not available from shipit
[07:51] <cmug> and I only have these bloody GUI installer POS's at my disposal!
[07:52] <Flannel> cmug: that's correct, although it was a bad idea.
[07:52] <cvp> bruenig: that works with all media players then? it's required to view dvd's? because the "css" makes it sound like it's used to decrypt DVD's
[07:52] <zcat[1] > cvp: you can't view them without decrypting them first.
[07:52] <bruenig> cvp, yeah it decrypts the encrypted ones
[07:53] <ndkk3> hey, i have a file called "~" in my / dir, will this delete all my files if i "sudo rm -rf ~" ?
[07:53] <crimsun> yes
[07:53] <zcat[1] > ndkk3: probably.
[07:53] <avis> i thought k9copy was the ubuntu version of dvddecrypter
[07:53] <ndkk3> why
[07:53] <boingolov> ndkk , ~ expands to /home/<yourusername>
[07:53] <Flannel> ndkk3: you can substitute rm for ls, to see, usually.
[07:53] <avis> or rather dvd shrink
[07:53] <boingolov> but if you do rm \~ it shoudl work
[07:53] <ndkk3> i did it, but nothin happened
[07:53] <ndkk3> i did: sudo rm -rf ~
[07:54] <Flannel> ~/~ seems to work fine.
[07:54] <zcat[1] > that will delete everything in /root
[07:54] <foobear> ndkk3:  I think you should try it and tell us all what happens..., assuming you can still run you're IRC client...
[07:54] <ndkk3> zcat[1] : it didn't though
[07:54] <zcat[1] > hmm, it should have.
[07:54] <ndkk3> i ctrl + C while it was loading
[07:54] <boingolov> ndkk3, echo $_IMAGE_MAGIC
[07:55] <ndkk3> boingolov?
[07:55] <ndkk3> the file "~" was in "/" dir
[07:55] <cvp> bruenig, zcat[1] , Nekow32, tsume, fyrestrtr: thanks!
[07:55] <eobanb> you dont need to use sudo to rm files in your home dir
[07:55] <cvp> Nekow42: easyubuntu frickin' OWNS
[07:55] <ndkk3> not in my homedir, i was in /
[07:56] <sparkman> ndkk3: rm -- /~
[07:56] <sparkman> :)
[07:56] <sparkman> oh, may need to escape
[07:56] <ndkk3> ic
[07:56] <cvp> ndkk3: rm /~ oughta do, aye?
[07:56] <ndkk3> but i did: sudo rm -rf ~
[07:56] <ndkk3> oh man
[07:56] <cvp> as long as you don't do -r, things will be dandy
[07:56] <eobanb> OR
[07:56] <eobanb> you open nautilus
[07:56] <cvp> oh christ, why the -r?
[07:56] <eobanb> and right click
[07:56] <eobanb> done.
[07:56] <sparkman> rm \~
[07:57] <ndkk3> roof:~$ sudo rm -rf ~
[07:57] <ndkk3> sup
[07:57] <ndkk3> with -r
[07:57] <sparkman> well you're fscked then :)
[07:57] <cvp> why -r?
[07:57] <zcat[1] > sudo doesn't change your environment, right.. so /home/ndkk3 is now history...
[07:57] <cvp> "~" is a file, right?
[07:57] <cvp> you don't need -r
[07:57] <ndkk3> yeah
[07:57] <cvp> it's a terrible idea, in fact, to do -r
[07:57] <eobanb> indeed.
[07:57] <cvp> like... why would you do this?
[07:58] <ndkk3> but it didn't do anything though, i ctrl+C right away
[07:58] <cvp> when you want to make sure you're not deleting your home directory, always put a path, and don't do recursive
[07:58] <foobear> sudo rm -rf ~/../  ; try that.
[07:58] <cvp> uh-huh...
[07:58] <cvp> don't listen to foobear
[07:58] <Nekow42> the f is what you want to watch out for...
[07:58] <zcat[1] > btw; just for the record if you want to delete all the dotfiles (like to reset your login back to defaults) don't rm -rf .* It kinda matches '.' and '..' as well.
[07:58] <cvp> you might as well rm -r /*
[07:58] <foobear> Make sure you have clean install disks before you start...
[07:58] <cvp> why is this such a huge issue? "rm /~" is all you need
[07:59] <cvp> it's safe, and it does exactly what you want
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume:  I re-ran the test here http://www.invalidpage.com/testing.php and got 32 seconds
[07:59] <ndkk3> i know there's no, biggy, but when i did it, nothing happened
[07:59] <tsume> highphilosopher: the guy who made it was an idiot
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume: I changed the code slightly and got it to run at 20 seconds
[07:59] <tsume> highphilosopher: I just sped up the ruby code
[07:59] <ku> Question: I installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package from Ubuntu, and I was wondering if there is any way to remove it. I wanted to try them both out, but now decided to stick with Ubuntu
[07:59] <tsume> 9 seconds
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume: lol
[07:59] <highphilosopher> tsume:  all I did was pull out the hundreds of echo calls. talk about a difference
[08:00] <ndkk3> im fucked then huh?
[08:00] <foobear> cvp: sorry, couldn't help myself.
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: in which, php?
[08:00] <highphilosopher> tsume:  The zend accelerator would help more (as well as running fastCGI)
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: the point is to print to the screen :)
[08:00] <ndkk3> zcat[1] : what is the best way to do then?
[08:00] <boingolov> or running php as a module
[08:00] <highphilosopher> tsume: I did, I dropped everything to a string then echo'ed the string at the end
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: as in a main programming languge. since php has been abused now for the long while
[08:00] <ndkk3> i know it deleted something because my freespace was 1.3GB now its 1.4GB
[08:00] <tsume> highphilosopher: that is cheating, that is not how you render a manderbot set
[08:01] <boingolov> fuck ruby
[08:01] <tsume> boingolov: ruby owns you :)
[08:01] <highphilosopher> tsume: :)
[08:01] <boingolov> hehe
[08:01] <tsume> now back to the optimizing
[08:01] <tsume> I'm doing python vs ruby
[08:01] <highphilosopher> tsume: honestly I've not messed with ruby that much...
[08:01] <tsume> optimizing optimizing optmizing
[08:01] <tsume> highphilosopher: its an excellent language, too bad it doesn't get more attention than rubyonrails
[08:01] <highphilosopher> tsume:  there must be a pre-built function in the java, cause that cannot be right
[08:01] <boingolov> seriously, big diff when running php as module vs. running php as cgi/fastcgi
[08:02] <tsume> highphilosopher: its the easiest language to write bindings for
[08:02] <zcat[1] > ndkk3: sudo rm /~ should have worked... and not damaged anything else.
[08:02] <highphilosopher> tsume: hmm, I may have to check it out
[08:02] <cvp> ndkk3: ja, du bist fukkt
[08:02] <ndkk3> what?
[08:02] <highphilosopher> boingolov: nodz
[08:02] <ndkk3> so im fucked then?
[08:02] <zcat[1] > too late now though.
[08:02] <ndkk3> i did: sudo rm -rf ~
[08:02] <tsume> highphilosopher: you're welcomed to come by #rubyforce Just don't visit the web page yet. :) I'm uploading a new one soon
[08:02] <ndkk3> ?
[08:02] <odat> anyone up for some more feedback
[08:02] <odat> ?
[08:02] <cvp> ndkk3: what you did, if you ran the command you wrote above, was delete your home dir...
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: exactly
[08:03] <highphilosopher> tsume: written in php :):):):):)
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: you rm'd your home directory
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: you should have done rm /~
[08:03] <ndkk3> ic
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: with nothing else
[08:03] <boingolov> so waht program are you guys talking about?
[08:03] <tsume> highphilosopher: please :P Written in ruby, using the Nitro framework(note: not rails)
[08:03] <tsume> boingolov: http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html#python
[08:03] <tsume> oops
[08:03] <ndkk3> cvp: which home directory? root or user?
[08:03] <zcat[1] > user
[08:03] <tsume> http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html
[08:03] <cvp> ndkk3: user
[08:03] <zcat[1] > bye... gotta go.
[08:03] <highphilosopher> tsume:  ok, so 'splain the whole "I don't like rails" thing
[08:03] <tsume> the guy doesn't know how to optimize
[08:03] <ndkk3> /home/ndkk3 or / ?
[08:04] <cvp> i mean... unless you were logged in as root
[08:04] <odat> anyhelp/feedback would be appreciated
[08:04] <tsume> highphilosopher: Nitro is made by greeks? :)
[08:04] <odat> fossystems.com
[08:04] <ndkk3> cvp: i used 'sudo' though
[08:04] <tsume> highphilosopher: I just don't take to fads
[08:04] <fyrestrtr> !offtopic
[08:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:04] <ndkk3> will that tell the system that im logged in as root?
[08:04] <tsume> highphilosopher: I use what is right by design
[08:04] <highphilosopher> tsume:  O I C
[08:04] <highphilosopher> tsume:  like PHP5 when everyone is selling scripts for 4 still ??
[08:04] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo doesn't use /root as home dir unless you give it another parameter... i don't remember what it is right now, but I think it's -h
[08:05] <tsume> highphilosopher: plus its just cool. has tons of little easy things, like making anything draggable. You just add draggable="true" to the xhtml tag
[08:05] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo will still use the original user's (who is using the sudo command) home dir
[08:05] <boingolov> ahh, the mandelbrot set
[08:05] <tsume> text, boxes, anything
[08:05] <GG_Allin> what file do I modify in ubuntu to set a default gateway?
[08:05] <highphilosopher> tsume: sweet. I will have to check that out. How easy is it on the DB access side?
[08:05] <mohan> hello
[08:06] <boingolov> and why is there not a perl version?
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> GG_Allin: /etc/networking/interfaces
[08:06] <mohan> anybody here with experience setting up software raid on dapper ?
[08:06] <ndkk3> cvp: so that command i used (sudo rm -rf ~) will just delete user files and not system/root files?
[08:06] <tsume> highphilosopher: with Nitro, you use a ORM called Og, makes life easier
[08:06] <highphilosopher> boingolov: because PERL went out long time ago.
[08:06] <boingolov> lol, not hardly
[08:06] <cvp> ndkk3: *nod*
[08:06] <tsume> highphilosopher: basically you do everything through a ruby object.
[08:06] <highphilosopher> tsume:  gotcha
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> tsume: what are you talking about?
[08:06] <prophet> hey guys can someone help me i fallowed some guide about some XGL thing and now my computer is jacked up its all choppy and the windows are none repsonsive
[08:06] <ndkk3> cvp: ?
[08:06] <tsume> highphilosopher: the nitro channel is #nitro ;)
[08:06] <GG_Allin> what exactly do I type into the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:06] <boingolov> if you want performance, perl is still relevant
[08:06] <tsume> fyrestrtr: ruby and web programming frameworks
[08:06] <fyrestrtr> prophet: undo whatever you did.
[08:06] <highphilosopher> prophet: run an sudo apt-get repait xgl
[08:06] <cvp> ndkk3: a "nod" is a gesture made with the head to signal agreement, compliance, or affirmation
[08:07] <renewbie> hi, I am trying to install courier-imap but it is forcing me to install postfix. I don't want postfix as I already have another mail server running.
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> tsume: right, so nothing relating to ubuntu -- take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:07] <SigmaX> prophet: did you change your video driver?
[08:07] <renewbie> How can install courier-imap without postfix?
[08:07] <highphilosopher> fyrestr: kewl
[08:07] <ndkk3> cvp: so no biggy about it right
[08:07] <highphilosopher> tsume:  meet me in nitro?
[08:07] <prophet> sigmax i think so i was trying to make it run better because the windows were kinda laggin
[08:07] <tsume> highphilosopher: sure
[08:07] <umar> whether ubuntu s dapper f-refox is having good renderring support
[08:08] <cvp> ndkk3: if you had a prized, meticulously-indexed porno collection in your home directory, then it is a big loss, but there is no damage to the system
[08:08] <renewbie> is there any command line switch to do this in apt-get?
[08:08] <umar> i heard it is compiled with higher versions of pango
[08:08] <renewbie> I can't find anything in man
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> renewbie: do what?
[08:08] <renewbie> may be I am missing something.. any pointer?
[08:08] <renewbie> hi, I am trying to install courier-imap but it is forcing me to install postfix. I don't want postfix as I already have another mail server running.
[08:08] <ndkk3> cvp: i see, i was just making sure, because it took me some times to install this thing
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> oh missed your question, sorry.
[08:09] <umar> may i know diff///// between dappers firefox and sarge firefox
[08:09] <cvp> i often find myself doubting my sexuality when i type in things like "man finger"... is there anything you guys recommends i use to alias that command?
[08:09] <foobear> . o 0 (crying to hard to type)...
[08:09] <fyrestrtr> cvp: info finger
[08:09] <ndkk3> cvp: let me say this again, this wont do anything 'harm' to my system, just my home dir (/home/ndkk3) ?
[08:09] <cvp> ndkk3: yes
[08:09] <ndkk3> ok
[08:09] <foobear> cvp & ndkk3: thanks 4 keeping me awake.
[08:09] <cvp> ndkk3: could'nt have said it better myself
[08:10] <cvp> foobear: :p
[08:10] <prophet> philosopher apt-get repair xgl it said it was a invlaid operator
[08:10] <ndkk3> thanks
[08:10] <trafiq> hi
[08:10] <cvp> ndkk3: np
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> prophet: #ubuntu-xgl
[08:10] <ndkk3> my system's been up for 72 days, i don't wanna reinstall this thing and reinstall everything over
[08:10] <ndkk3> this aint no windows
[08:10] <ndkk3> :P
[08:11] <ndkk3> i mean, i don't care about the uptime
[08:11] <cvp> don't diginify it by using the name MS wants you to - join the revolution and use "winblows"
[08:11] <ndkk3> its the time it took me to install everything you know
[08:11] <alekz> hi, in wich file can i see the list of my installed desktops availables on the User Sessiones startup menu ??
[08:11] <ndkk3> sure
[08:12] <cvp> whoah, upside-down questionmark doohickey - gotta answer that one!
[08:12] <ndkk3> dang, you got scared when you said my system is fucked
[08:12] <cvp> ndkk3: naw, i didn't say your SYSTEM was fucked... just you, as in the user
[08:12] <grigora> hi, I am an old fvwm user and I very much like the ability to switch terminals by simply moving the mouse across the border, now I am using the GNOME desktop and am curious if GNOME offers the same functionality, thanks!
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> alekz: /usr/share/xsessions/
[08:12] <ndkk3> it probably deleted some of my docs though
[08:12] <cvp> ndkk3: yep, most likely
[08:13] <alekz> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> grigora: with xgl, yes. Otherwise you can use the shortcut keys. ctrl+alt+arrow keys. Might be another way though, not sure.
[08:13] <Skooj> erm, how do i upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[08:13] <cvp> bruenig: if you're still paying attention, where do i put libdvdcss?
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> !upgrade
[08:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:14] <cvp> Skooj: http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <kintaro0e> hello everyone, i install vmware-server on my server and make a windows xp client os on it.but this is the problem: The network bridge on device /dev/vmnet0 is temporarily down because the bridged Ethernet interface is down. how wll i enable the vmnet0 interface up?
[08:14] <kintaro0e> Terminus: do you have any idea on this problem?
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: try sudo ifconfig vmnet0 up
[08:14] <ndkk3> and yeah, i thought when you "rm -rf ~" itll delete all files in /
[08:14] <ndkk3> nuff said
[08:14] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: ok..i'll try it..
[08:14] <foobear> ndkk3: who gives a sh as long as you archived the "meticulously indexed pr0n collection" somewhere outside of /~
[08:15] <ndkk3> word ^
[08:15] <kintaro0e> no such device fyrestrtr..
[08:16] <grigora> fyrestrtr: thanks, so do I just install xgl on top of GNOME?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: ifconfig -a -- do you see it listed there?
[08:16] <fyrestrtr> grigora: its a bit more complicated than that, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xgl
[08:17] <cvp> any of you guys wanna go to a movie on friday?
[08:17] <ron999> henry54 i'm back #sydney please
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> cvp: not with someone who is worried about man finger
[08:18] <Terminus> kintaro0e: no idea. haven't used vmware in a long time.
[08:18] <Skooj> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades, i hsould have a "breezy-updates" repository, but i odn't :S
[08:18] <kintaro0e> nope..fyrestrtr..no vmnet0...actually i have 2 nic..eth0 and eth1..currently its running in eth1 and my vmware network is bridge...
[08:18] <cvp> Skooj: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and remove every "#" you see before the repository entries
[08:19] <kintaro0e> Terminus: its ok..hehehe
[08:19] <Skooj> thanks cvp
[08:19] <Terminus> kintaro0e: why use vmware? maybe qemu is enough to do the job. :)
[08:20] <kintaro0e> Terminus: its for windows client os..
[08:20] <cvp> Skooj: after that, make sure to do sudo apt-get update before you try apt-getting again
[08:20] <ndkk3> cvp: i think im fucked, it deleted all my files starting with .
[08:20] <ndkk3> :/
[08:20] <Terminus> kintaro0e: i have a deb of the latest version here if you want. the accelerator i have is optimized for the k7 kernel only though so you might have to build your own.
[08:20] <ndkk3> firefox wont run
[08:20] <Terminus> s/optimized/compiled/
[08:21] <cvp> ndkk3: lawl, it's probably pointing to extensions and preferences you allegedly had in ~, but are now gone
[08:21] <cvp> ndkk3: go into synaptic package manager and do reinstalls of the software you use
[08:21] <kintaro0e> Terminus: will its ok..they like to use on vmware..
[08:21] <kintaro0e> hehehe
[08:21] <cvp> ndkk3: that'd be under System -> Administration, if you can't find it
[08:21] <ndkk3> i see
[08:22] <Ademan_> what ports does samba use?
[08:22] <Terminus> whoops... i am not allowed to redistribute kqemu. >_<
[08:22] <foobear> almost forgot why I'm here...
[08:22] <cvp> Ademan_: samba is a very sensual dance, so if you can't guess...
[08:22] <foobear> anyone familiar with configuring ALSA to use cmipci with joystick?
[08:22] <drafz> hello
[08:23] <Ademan_> cvp: lol
[08:23] <ndkk3> man, even Synaptic wont even run
[08:23] <kintaro0e> Terminus:..ahhaha
[08:23] <ndkk3> :/
[08:23] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: any advice?
[08:23] <cvp> foobear: i'm only here this long because i'm waiting for all the crap i chose to update using easyubuntu to download... i'm really just killing time
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: that's... bad
[08:23] <drafz> i need help or install ubuntu 6.06 i think
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: may have to do that through apt then
[08:23] <drafz> anyone could help me ?
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo apt-get remove mozilla
[08:23] <cvp> ndkk3: sudo apt-get install mozilla
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: etc
[08:24] <ndkk3> what about synaptic
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: i don't know enough to help you there
[08:24] <ndkk3> ic
[08:24] <ndkk3> thanks
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: i actually forgot how important some of the ~/.* junk is
[08:24] <drafz> ***** when i launch ubuntu dapper install , kernel freeze on a PCI: can't allocate ressource *****
[08:24] <foobear> ndkk3: if you know debian, apt is the way to go.
[08:24] <cvp> ndkk3: it may very well turn out that you need to back up your shit and reinstall
[08:25] <ndkk3> that's another story
[08:25] <cvp> for the longest time, i wanted to make an MMORPG character named "Colonel Panic"
[08:25] <cvp> frickin' GET IT!??
[08:25] <cvp> it wasn't that bad, rabeldable
[08:25] <eobanb> a lot of people have already made that joke.
[08:26] <cvp> y'know what, eobanb?
[08:26] <foobear> ndkk3: if its a local install, I'd just recreate home directories.
[08:26] <cvp> ....
[08:26] <cvp> yeah
[08:26] <eobanb> haha
[08:26] <drafz> ....
[08:26] <drafz> no help here so ?
[08:26] <cvp> whoah... wtf is "freepats?"
[08:26] <ndkk3> what you mean?
[08:26] <ndkk3> @ foobear
[08:26] <cvp> drafz: come back when other people are paying attention
[08:27] <drafz> :-.
[08:27] <drafz> : /
[08:27] <cvp> ndkk3: foobear's right, actually
[08:27] <drafz> damn it
[08:27] <drafz> that sucks
[08:27] <cvp> ndkk3: you've already killed your ~, so you may as well kill the user "ndkk3" or whatever, and then useradd ndkk3
[08:27] <drafz> i think 2.6.17-6 is fucked up
[08:27] <cvp> drafz: watch your fucking mouth
[08:27] <drafz> ::O
[08:27] <drafz> yeah but i would like to install
[08:28] <drafz> ubuntu
[08:28] <cvp> drafz: ubuntu is for human beings, not for heathens
[08:28] <drafz> i got standard hardware
[08:28] <drafz> i dont know why , it's so sad
[08:28] <foobear> ndkk3: well assuming you deleted and want to recreate user directories as, just create them and copy default profile and bashrc into them.
[08:28] <ndkk3> cvp: there are still some files in my ~/
[08:28] <cvp> foobear: well lah-dee-frickin-dah, don't we just have the answers to everything
[08:28] <foobear> of course make sure their permissions are set correctly...
[08:29] <cvp> make sure the permissions are set incorrectly
[08:29] <cvp> ndkk3: then go with foobear's genius idea, cuz he's such a genius and everything
[08:29] <foobear> i was a bell labs admin, when there was still a bell labs....
[08:30] <cvp> oh wow, i was too! when did you work there?
[08:30] <foobear> i just come here for the beer and entertainment anymore..
[08:30] <foobear> hmmm, 94-98
[08:30] <foobear> maybe 99
[08:30] <cvp> i was lying - i just wanted to see if you'd give out personal information on a public IRC channel
[08:30] <foobear> when did we go kerplunk?
[08:31] <cvp> i was, like, in elementary school then
[08:31] <cvp> actually, whoah, i was 6 back in '94
[08:31] <foobear> well im sure you could get one there now...
[08:31] <cvp> feel better now that you know you're talking to some punkass kid?
[08:31] <farous> foobear: just curious when ther still were bell labs?
[08:31] <foobear> well if you need a sysadmin job just let me know....
[08:32] <cvp> foobear: i thought you said it died
[08:32] <cvp> unless you mean a fundamental change in idealogy of the company, such as what happened to Yahoo!
[08:32] <foobear> its pretty much dead.
[08:33] <cvp> that is, no one cares about it anymore?
[08:33] <foobear> worse than that, they outsourced IT to IBM...
[08:33] <cvp> yikes!
[08:33] <farous> foobear: last time i checked they were in Montreal
[08:33] <cvp> so what would a sysadmin job there be like?
[08:33] <foobear> murder is perhaps more appropriate
[08:33] <cvp> whoah, a sysadmin job for bell labs involves killing people?
[08:33] <foobear> they WERE pretty friggin awesome.
[08:33] <cvp> heh, do i even need an A+ cert?
[08:34] <cvp> i'm working towards it... gotten kinda lazy recently, but still casually working on learning the stuff
[08:34] <umar> ubuntu -firefox is having renderring support ?
[08:34] <foobear> flip flops and t's were the attire.  Unless you wanted to wear a polo.  more of those started appearing after the IBM invasion.
[08:35] <foobear> certs weren't important.
[08:35] <cvp> i can juggle kinda well, does that count for anything?
[08:35] <foobear> IBM's not so bad, just different, ALOT different than Bell Labs culture.
[08:35] <cvp> (actually that's just me padding my resume - i've never learned to juggle)
[08:36] <foobear> incredibly important at Bell
[08:36] <Chubbly> hello
[08:36] <foobear> It was a culture, I'm sorry to say, that doesn't exist anymore....
[08:36] <cvp> that's kinda depressing... i've heard of a lot of tech companies taking that same road
[08:37] <cvp> was it the popular reason for decay - becoming more "professional" and proprietary?
[08:37] <cvp> cuz that just kills a good liberal atmosphere
[08:37] <cvp> bringing in the cubicles and polo shirts... yech
[08:37] <foobear> There was nothing quite like bell labs.  I could send my C homework to Dennis Ritchie.    I've installed the wpa_supplicaent, and network-manager-gnome.  But nothing shows up to allow me to enter the PSK.  I've manually made a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file, but the PSK isn't liked.
[08:40] <Chubbly> looking for advice about which version of unbuntu to install
[08:40] <foobear> Dapper Drake.
[08:41] <ku> !easyubuntu
[08:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:41] <marcel`> hi, i just installed pure-ftpd whit synaptic but when i try to execute it i get the following msg: Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use.
[08:41] <hangfire> Chubby- go with regular knome ubuntu, unless you really like the KDE enviorment. I dont think Ubuntu goes well with KDE
[08:42] <christianp> hi all
[08:42] <Chubbly> i am setting up a home media server on a really crappy machine
[08:42] <christianp> how can i make a demon (freepopsd) running at start time?
[08:43] <farous> nubster: try asking in kubuntu room
[08:43] <farous> find libqt3-mt
[08:43] <nubster> thanks
[08:43] <ndkk3> when adding a new user, which is the best way to do it, 'useradd' or 'adduser'
[08:43] <ndkk3> ?
[08:44] <marcel`> wauw easyubuntu really sounds great.. is there a reason why is shouldend use it?
[08:44] <foobear> night, guess no one knows anything about ALSA and sound drivers upport here.
[08:44] <nick__> QUESTION: At the login screen, if I scroll to the bottom of the screen, the whole thing goes ....crazy.. and i have to power off or re-login to fix it. Is that the video drivers?
[08:44] <damned[office] > can anybody suggest why X11Forwarding can''t work on ubuntu-server?
[08:45] <foobear> farous: who was in Montreal? Bell Labs?
[08:45] <ic56> ndkk3: adduser is easier (provides more defaults).  adduser invokes useradd
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Silly question?
[08:46] <ndkk3> ic56: ic
[08:46] <damned[office] > seems ssh-server doesn't create .Xauthority in home dir.
[08:46] <farous> foobear: bell labs in canada are located in montreal so when i read your note on that they were gone was just wondering
[08:46] <foobear> adduser is pretty easy.  just don't know if it works if the user names are already in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
[08:46] <ic56> ndkk3: did you daemon (freepopsd) come with an init.d file?
[08:46] <gyaresu> damned(office) You need to run the X server to dish up progs in GUI
[08:47] <ic56> christianp: did you daemon (freepopsd) come with an init.d file?
[08:47] <ic56> ndkk3: sorry, wrong person
[08:47] <Chubbly> what are the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <foobear> I  don't think they're completely gone, just not what it used to me.  FWIW, Bell Labs was everywhere,
[08:47] <Wesker> alguien ha tenido problemas en el arranque con la livecd de ubuntu en e1 pc con radeon 9600
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> Chubbly: what are you trying to run it on?
[08:47] <ic56> !es
[08:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:47] <christianp> ic56: yes, it is
[08:48] <Chubbly> a 550 Mhz, 64MB ram computer
[08:48] <Wesker> ubotu, * No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Est vetado).
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about * No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Est vetado). - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <farous> foobear: i realised that from your conv later. I was gona do some analysis for them but it did not work out
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> Chubbly: i have an mp3 server with  700MHz/128mb RAM and it runs ok, but a little slow. I wouldnt expect much, but it will run.
[08:49] <gyaresu> Chubbly, fine for a server. awefull for a desktop (need more ram) Proc is fine though.
[08:49] <ndkk3> foobear: ok, i created a new user, should i copy all files in /home/ndkk3 as 'cp *' to the new user (/home/dgethot) ?
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> yea, what gyaresu  said, Chubbly
[08:49] <Chubbly> thanks
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> :)
[08:49] <Wesker> ubotu,  try "/j #ubuntu-es"
[08:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about try "/j #ubuntu-es" - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> QUESTION: At the login screen, if I scroll to the bottom of the screen, the whole thing goes ....crazy.. and i have to power off or re-login to fix it. Is that the video drivers?
[08:49] <Wesker> ah ok is a bot
[08:49] <ic56> christianp: link the init.d file to /etc/rc3.d  That will cause it to be started when you reach the GUI initlevel.
[08:50] <Chubbly> so... the Ubuntu server version?
[08:50] <fiendskull9> hey
[08:50] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, have you tried a different login manager? gdm kdm xdm etc?
[08:50] <fiendskull9> i screwed up my ubuntu by trying to install nvidia drivers
[08:50] <fiendskull9> how do i recompile x?
[08:51] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  no . Just gdmsetup
[08:51] <farous> fiendskull9: you do not need to recompile it just reinstall it
[08:51] <gyaresu> fiendskull9, What did you do to xorg that you need to recompile?
[08:51] <fiendskull9> how do i reinstall it?
[08:51] <foobear> ndkk3: depends whether you want the user dgethot (whats that all about) to have the exact profile as ndkk3 or not.  FWIW, you REALLY want the .files, like .bashrc and .bash_profile...
[08:51] <farous> fiendskull9: and i think all you need is reconfigure x to use the free driver
[08:51] <fiendskull9> gyaresu, well, i just realized it wasnt drivers
[08:51] <christianp> ic56: in rc5 are there all objects starting with S##. Can i add my link caed freepops or have i to rename it?
[08:51] <ndkk3> foobear: why would i copy all them files if that 'profile' is fucked up?
[08:51] <fiendskull9> I installed it using my monitor (1280x1024)
[08:51] <christianp> s/rc5/rc3
[08:51] <fiendskull9> wait
[08:51] <fiendskull9> nbm
[08:51] <fiendskull9> *nvm
[08:52] <fiendskull9> Ok
[08:52] <fiendskull9> i installed nvidia drivers using a script (dont remmber what)
[08:52] <fiendskull9> and now i reboot
[08:52] <bobbyw> hello. could anyone help me with the driver install on a Radeon 9000 Pro?
[08:52] <fiendskull9> and its telling me an error
[08:52] <fiendskull9> i need to get back to default x11
[08:52] <ic56> ndkk3: "cp *" really isn't what you'd want to do in any reasonable circumstance.  Which files do you want to copy the files from one user to the other anyway?  and why?  Give more details, you'll get more accurate advice.
[08:52] <fiendskull9> not the one with nvidia driver
[08:53] <gyaresu> fiendskull9, all that really matters is your xorg.conf
[08:53] <ndkk3> ic56: i accidentally did 'sudo rm -rf ~'
[08:53] <fiendskull9> ok
[08:53] <gyaresu> fiendskull9, you DID keep a copy didn't you :)
[08:53] <fiendskull9> no
[08:53] <fiendskull9> i wasnt thinking right
[08:53] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  did my xorg.conf get messed?
[08:53] <fiendskull9> i havent used linux for 2 months or so
[08:53] <farous> fiendskull9: no prob sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:53] <fiendskull9> i didnt even remember sudo apt-get update :D
[08:53] <farous> and follow the menu
[08:53] <ndkk3> ic56: instead of /~
[08:54] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, Does it seem to be in a high resolution? The login screen.
[08:54] <ic56> christianp: the link needs to be in the S## format.  S means start.  K means kill.  The number causes the scripts in each directory to be run in teh sequence in which they are numbered.  S-named scripts get the servers started, K-named scripts cause the corresponding servers to be shutdown when that level is reached.
[08:54] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: no it goes really fuzzy, like the monitor is on acid!
[08:54] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, immediately? everytime...
[08:55] <foobear> ndkk3: if you want ndkk3 to have a clean start, `cp /etc/profile /home/ndkk3/.profile ; cp /etc/bash.bashrc /home/.bashrc` and be done with it...
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: just when i move the mouse to the bottom of the screen.
[08:55] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, sounds like your Vert Refresh or Hsynch settings are out...
[08:55] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, ah. odd.
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: AAh.
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> yu[!!
[08:55] <nicholaspaul> yup
[08:55] <metatag> hello all I have tried to install nvidia-glx and I am getting the following when running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" : "Error: your X configuration has been altered." Tried to manually change nv to nvidia but it still does not work
[08:55] <ic56> nkdd3: so you are trying to re-create a user for yourself?
[08:55] <ic56> ndkk3: so you are trying to re-create a user for yourself?
[08:56] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, could be the xorg.conf mouse settings even.
[08:56] <ndkk3> ic56: yes sir
[08:56] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  can i set them to default?
[08:56] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, sorry I can't be more specific.
[08:56] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu: not thats ok. should i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:56] <ndkk3> foobear: that's it?
[08:56] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, If you've got a copy of the original file then yep...
[08:56] <ic56> ndkk3: and, presumably you stopped the rm -rf ~ before it destroyed *everything*.  Is that right too?
[08:56] <ndkk3> ic56: yeah
[08:57] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, make a backup of your xorg.conf and yeah. can't hurt...
[08:57] <ndkk3> ic56: i ctrl+c'd
[08:57] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  i'll give it a whirl. Cheers!
[08:57] <metatag> any ideas?
[08:57] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, good luck.
[08:58] <kintaro0e> hi guys..has anyone tried using vnc?
[08:58] <ic56> ndkk3: ok.  When you did adduser, it created a new home directory and copied the standard config files from /etc/skel  Now you'll copy everything that remains in the old directory.  You
[08:58] <kintaro0e> fyrestrtr: hey..its working now..
[08:58] <metatag> hi gyaresu, I have tried to install nvidia-glx and I am getting the following when running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" : "Error: your X configuration has been altered." Tried to manually change nv to nvidia but it still does not work
[08:58] <kintaro0e> i make vmnet2 adapter
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> kintaro0e: cool :)
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work
[08:58] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:59] <gyaresu> metatag, yeah. I saw. Thinking about it at the mo...
[08:59] <ic56> ndkk3: you'll want to overwrite the standard config files with the ones from your old account so as to get the benefit of any modifications you had made.    Most applications, including X, will recreate their own config files when you first run them.   I don't mind having a look.
[09:01] <ndkk3> foobear: i don't get what you're saying, init, etc, im kinda new
[09:01] <GG_Allin1> hmmm, seemed to fix my wireless problem (maybe).  all I had to do was add 'gateway <IP_ADDRESS>' to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:01] <gyaresu> metatag, I get the feeling you've done something out of order.
[09:01] <xed> Alright, so I am trying to install Ubuntu on my AMD Athlon 550MHz...
[09:01] <thedude> it only lets me boot live, and every time it finishes loading the screen just turns off
[09:02] <christianp> thanks ic56 :)
[09:02] <xed> So.. I get to the part where it says 'Starting up the partitioner" and it gets stuck at 41%
[09:02] <xed> Is that a common problem?
[09:02] <ic56> christianp: yw!
[09:02] <metatag> gyaresu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:02] <xed> Lets hope crimsun is still around.
[09:03] <xed> Anyone? Anyone know if that's a common problem? the partitioner hanging at 41% ?
[09:04] <metatag> gyaresu: guess I might have tampered the xorg.conf settings before.. is there anyway to get the original copy ?
[09:04] <kouwe> how come, my firefox cant read special chars like
[09:04] <foobear> ndkk3:  if you type this command... `less /etc/inittab`, you will be looking at THE most important initialization config file in unix (well System V based unixes anyway - like Debian).  That will tell you what order things get started by the Unix initialization process.
[09:04] <thedude> is there a command to go to the intsall screen?
[09:05] <thedude> I keep getting "not valid ELF image"
[09:05] <ndkk3> foobear: i just typed what you have said
[09:05] <foobear> ndkk3: If you want to learn more about this process, read the MAN page on inittab.
[09:05] <ndkk3> cp /etc/profile /home/ndkk3/.profile ; cp /etc/bash.bashrc /home/.bashrc
[09:05] <kouwe> how come, my firefox cant read special chars like   ??
[09:06] <ic56> ndkk3: goodness! don't do that!  /etc/profile is *not* meant to be used as a private .profile
[09:06] <bobbyw> foobear: that's my only option? buy a nvidia card?
[09:06] <metatag> foobear: if I delete xorg.conf would X recreate em for me?
[09:06] <ic56> ndkk3: same for bash.bashrc
[09:06] <xed> Anyone? Anyone help.. at all?
[09:06] <gyaresu> metatag, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:07] <bobbyw> xed: install a new partition program
[09:07] <livingdaylight> xed, not me, i know nothing
[09:07] <metatag> gyaresu: thanks :)
[09:07] <xed> bobbyw: I'm in the middle of the installation of Ubuntu..
[09:07] <kouwe> xed: i got it, but stucked @ 15% each time again
[09:07] <xed> I.. don't think I can do much.
[09:07] <ndkk3> ic56: answer you pm
[09:07] <foobear> ndkk3: inittab tell the kernel what initialization level to boot up into (i.e., single user, multi-user, network/no network, etc.) Think of it like Windoze "Safe Mode", "Safe Mode w/ networking", "Normal", etc.)
[09:07] <xed> kouwe: figure out how to fix it?
[09:08] <ic56> foobear: your advice about copying /etc/profile to ~/.profile is ill advised.
[09:08] <ic56> ndkk3: I just noticed that you aren't registered with nickserv.  This means that you cannot send private messages.  Have you sent me any?  I haven't gotten any from you...
[09:08] <gyaresu> metatag, did you see step four and are installing the right packages for your version of ubuntu?
[09:08] <ndkk3> oh that's why
[09:08] <ndkk3> damn
[09:08] <xed> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[09:08] <xed> That's the latest release, yes?
[09:08] <foobear> metatag: in /etc/X11?  No.  Don't delete anything outside  your /home dir.
[09:08] <kouwe> xed: i installed it on a laptop and disabled a couple things in the boot line -> "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" that worked for me....
[09:08] <ic56> ndkk3: I sent you the above text a few minutes ago as a private message.  Did that get through to you?
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: what do you want to get out of your ati card?
[09:08] <ndkk3> nope
[09:09] <ndkk3> ok
[09:09] <ndkk3> i just regg'd
[09:09] <ic56> ndkk3: Ah.  So you can neither send *nor* receive PMs
[09:09] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: no gaming, just xvid quality video playing lagless fullscreen
[09:09] <foobear> ic56: Why is that?
[09:09] <bobbyw> I'm talking 30 fps
[09:09] <ndkk3> nope
[09:09] <thedude>  is there any other way to install this with out booting the live cd
[09:09] <metatag> gyaresu: yep am on dapper.. so I installed nvia-glx only
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: that is possible. I have that working fine with my ati mobility x300
[09:09] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  yea, reseting xorg did the trick. Thx for your help :)
[09:09] <gyaresu> foobear, metatag renaming or copying the xorg.conf file is fine. even deleting it as long as your happy to reconfigure.
[09:09] <foobear> ic56: He's already deleted his whole home directory...
[09:09] <metatag> gyaresu: *nvidia
[09:09] <thedude> is there an actuall instal screen?
[09:09] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: I'd love you if you told me how.
[09:09] <gyaresu> nicholaspaul, stupid computers ;)
[09:10] <nicholaspaul> gyaresu:  hehe yea!
[09:10] <metatag> gyaresu: ok i'll do that
[09:10] <ic56> foobear: the default ~/.profile should be copied from /etc/skel/.profile
[09:10] <kouwe> xed: if u delete "quiet splash" from the boot line u can see what kind of errors there are at booting the install
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: followed the wiki, and installed the ati binary drivers because I have a laptop, and suspend/resume only works properly with the ati drivers (from ati.com).
[09:10] <ic56> foobear: that is where default config files are kept.  These get installed by useradd
[09:10] <bobbyw> xed: boot the live cd and apt-get another partition tool, see if it loads?
[09:10] <foobear> ic56: Ah, ok then.  Whats the diff between the two, out of curiosity.
[09:10] <ndkk3> any programs i run, it wont run
[09:10] <ndkk3> :/
[09:11] <xed> I'm trying to look through the advanced installation thingies...
[09:11] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: which wiki?
[09:11] <ic56> foobear: give me a minute to deal with ndkk3
[09:11] <xed> it's not going well...
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> !ati > bobbyw
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> that one
[09:11] <ndkk3> i just created a new emergency user, just incase
[09:11] <gyaresu> foobear, one makes you a default home and the other just adds a user to the system
[09:11] <pinky_> Why isn't there an option to change bitdepth in the "Desktop --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution" dialogue box?
[09:11] <pinky_> Is there a GUI way to change from 32-bit color to 16-bit color?
[09:12] <foobear> ndkk3: do what ic56 said then, but you'd probably be ok.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: because you set that in xorg.conf
[09:12] <thedude> can anyone help me?
[09:12] <helpplz> how can I get sound to work in quake3?
[09:12] <gyaresu> xed have you been running an OS previously on this machine? Sounds like dodgy RAM to me.
[09:12] <bobbyw> great, thanks.
[09:12] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: you're my hero.
[09:12] <ic56> ndkk3: cp -rdp <old homedir> <new homedir>
[09:12] <xed> gyaresu: Yes, I had OS running on this machine.. windows xp
[09:12] <gyaresu> thedude, why do you not want the livecd?
[09:13] <pinky_> But I also set resolutions in xord.conf, but I can change them in the GUI if I want...
[09:13] <ic56> ndkk3: this will copy the entire directory hierarchy from the old user to the new user.  It will preserve symlinks and permissions.  Next you need to
[09:13] <thedude> gyaresu: because it loads up, and then the screen turns off
[09:13] <ic56> ndkk3: oh, wait, you need to sudo that cp command
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: how did you set them there?
[09:13] <pinky_> Wy can I not change through the bit depths I have set in xorg.conf like I can resolutions?
[09:13] <ic56> ndkk3: sudo cp -rdp <old homedir> <new homedir>
[09:13] <thedude> gyaresu: it's hard to control the computer when you can't see anything
[09:13] <gyaresu> xed, you get my drift though. you've tried this a couple of times i guess? (could be a dodgy burn cd, try md5sum checking the disk maybe)
[09:13] <pinky_> What, the resolutions?
[09:13] <ndkk3> ok
[09:13] <ndkk3> i just did
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: yes.
[09:13] <gyaresu> thedude, have you tried loading in failsafe?
[09:13] <pinky_> Wrote them in?
[09:13] <ndkk3> ic56: that'll take some time though
[09:14] <pinky_> I have multiple I can toggle through via the GUI in GNOME
[09:14] <xed> gyaresu: sss.. yeah I see what you're saying
[09:14] <ic56> ndkk3: next you need to change teh ownerships to match the new user.  Like so: chown -r <new username>:<new groupname> <new homedir>
[09:14] <pinky_> But how can I make it so bit depth is switchable in the GUI?
[09:14] <pinky_> I mean is this not even possible?
[09:14] <foobear> gyaresu: I can't think of too many more things that I personally hate to do than RE-configuring X and xorg.conf.  Especially if you have an "enhanced" video adapter...
[09:14] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: I am not aware of a way to change screen depth 'on the fly' only the resolution.
[09:14] <pinky_> That seems silly that X would have to be completely restarted for a bit depth change.
[09:14] <thedude> how do I go about doing that?
[09:14] <kouwe> why cant my firefox display specials chars like "", cause it displays a question mark (?) ..... anyone?
[09:14] <pinky_> Bad design IMO
[09:15] <ndkk3> ic56: you talkin about the dirs or what?
[09:15] <bobbyw> in short: apt-get install xorg-driver-flgrx
[09:15] <bobbyw> wonderful.
[09:15] <ic56> ndkk3: if you don't know the primary group name of the new user, type: id <new usenarname>   It will be reported as "gid"
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: its a server that is serving clients (multiple clients). So in that design, you don't just shift things like bitdepth (which can cause unpredictable results) on the fly.
[09:15] <gyaresu> foobear, i just keep a copy of a fully working xorg.conf lying around for those special moments
[09:15] <foobear> pinky: all you have to do is CTRL-ALT-BKSPC
[09:15] <ndkk3> i see that
[09:15] <ic56> ndkk3: I've said many thing, you'll have be more specific with your question.  What are you confused about?
[09:16] <foobear> gyaresu: I hear that!
[09:16] <gyaresu> thedude, when you boot the cd can you press F2 or F3 for more options?
[09:16] <pinky_> fyrestrtr: Well why is resolution so easily switchable?  Seems just as risky to change on the fly as bit depth...
[09:16] <thedude> no
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> pinky_: that's how I would justify it :) Its not bad design -- just a different way of doing things. X is a *server* and it serves many clients, one of which is gnome. You could have 15 people running any number of clients off of the same X server.   I want to get my game working =P
[09:18] <gyaresu> Boot in Failsafe mode on the LiveCD folks. Anyone?
[09:18] <xed> would it be possible for me to install it Ubuntu onto an external harddrive being connected via USB ?
[09:18] <foobear> pinky: I suppose you could just do it the M$ way and reboot the server.  Oh, and bring the 150 users attached to that Windows server down with it.
[09:18] <xed> ONTO the harddrive, not FROM it..
[09:18] <A-L-P-H-A> How do I setup ubuntu to allow wifi roaming?
[09:18] <gyaresu> thedude, no probs at all.
[09:18] <bilss_> hi
[09:18] <ic56> ndkk3: dude, it's your files.  What do I care?  If you want help, I'll help you.  If you don't, we're done and that's great too.
[09:18] <ndkk3> ic56: ok if i want to completely delete the user 'ndkk3', what should i do other than: deluser ndkk3 && rm -rf /home/ndkk3 ?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> xed: that would be .... slow, but I think its possible.
[09:18] <jon27kc> Earlier I discussed briefly the memory allocation crash problem with Nautilus.  I found a solution by accident--but I don't know what exactly happened. If interested, my post on the forums is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1296882#post1296882.
[09:19] <xed> Alright...lets try the external then!
[09:19] <bilss_> if i pastebin something is it possible to delete it at some point or is it there for ever
[09:19] <thedude> gyaresu: it just sits at a text prompt for a few seconds and the defaults to live eventually
[09:19] <gyaresu> xed onboard gfx is it? do you have a spare gfx card?
[09:20] <foobear> who can help me configure a sound driver (cmipci) under ALSA to use my joystick.  I've got big scary monsters to kill...
[09:20] <Ramunas> can anybody help me to get winfast tv2000 xp tv-tuner to work?
[09:20] <ic56> ndkk3: you'll also want to remove teh user's mailbox, any cronjobs, hmmm, can't think of anything else right now.  Try find / -name '*ndkk3*' -print   See what it finds
[09:20] <gyaresu> thedude, haven't used ubuntu in a while so I'm not familiar with the boot order but it should have a failsafe mode.
[09:20] <livingdaylight> so, some questions: what is reiserfs?
[09:20] <drega> i'm having a hell of a time restoring grub after a windows install. I've run grub-install /dev/hda and it fails, I've tried to use the installer and mount the partitions to get to the grub install stage and the installer fails. andy ideas?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: a filesystem for linux.
[09:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS
[09:21] <drega> any ideas rather
[09:21] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, and so is ext3 which is what ive always used previously
[09:21] <thedude> gyaresu: I know with other linuxs' I've used it does, but the only thing it offers is "live"
[09:21] <livingdaylight> thx, gyaresu
[09:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, dude. really. some research is required.
[09:21] <xed> Oh what the HELL.. m..GOD DAMNIT
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: its something I believe developed by IBM. Each has its advantages.
[09:21] <ndkk3> ic56: mail, sudo, screen, and that's about it
[09:21] <foobear> livingdaylight: A journaling filesystem for Linux.  One of the first (after ext2).
[09:21] <DBO> !language > xed
[09:22] <ic56> ndkk3: to remove the mailbox, just rm the file in /var/spool/mail/<username>  For crontabs at at jobs, you sould use the command
[09:22] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, but you can install any os using either?
[09:22] <Lopa> where can i find rpms for ubuntu im planning on installing it again :)
[09:22] <ic56> ndkk3: Oh, also print jobs
[09:22] <Lopa> I meant debs
[09:22] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, that's edging into stfw territory ;) not that i would ever say that.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: no, only any linux-based os.
[09:22] <Lopa> any ideas?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> Lopa: www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:22] <ic56> ndkk3: you mention "mail, sudo, screen" what's the path you found for each of those?
[09:22] <thedude> gyaresu: I have yet to get any linux to run on this thing, it just absolutely refuses to take it, in some way, shape or form
[09:22] <Lopa> not from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages ?
[09:22] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, that's what i meant : )
[09:22] <foobear> Lopa: Why don't you download the ISO and burn it to CD instead.  Much easier...
[09:22] <gyaresu> HOWTO Boot in Failsafe mode on the LiveCD folks. Anyone?
[09:22] <move> okay, i just changed my xconfig according to that how to and apparently I did something way wrong, x won't load.
[09:23] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, stfw?
[09:23] <move> gyaresu: vga fail safe?
[09:23] <thedude> gyaresu: I have a newer mac and pc and I can get both to run linux
[09:23] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, search the funky web.
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: search the fine web
[09:23] <ndkk3> ic56: can i pm you?
[09:23] <gyaresu> move, is it?
[09:23] <Lopa> not from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/allpackages ?
[09:23] <jon27kc> ic56, ndkk3 might also want to remove the user from sudoers.  I just did that with a test user, by coincidence.
[09:23] <xed> Man, that bot just owned me
[09:23] <move> gyaresu: yes?
[09:24] <move> hmm
[09:24] <move> what's the name of that file that I just edited
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> jon27kc: just remove from the admin group.
[09:24] <foobear> Lopa: No.  That will come later.  Just get the ISO image first....
[09:24] <move> that's got all the video/mouse configs for x
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> move: take a guess, but its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <move> yes, thx
[09:24] <livingdaylight> its just that i've always used ext, but tried to install suse and kanotix and it seemed they were using reiserfs
[09:24] <xed> why do I get the gun? it's cause I'm black..!?
[09:24] <livingdaylight> and that threw me a little
[09:24] <thedude> gyaresu: I've tried "live video=ofonly" and that doesn't work either
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> thedude: you might need the alternate cd.
[09:25] <xed> awwww yeeee.. just fixed my problem
[09:25] <foobear> Lopa http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:25] <gyaresu> thedude, I'm making this up but (from knoppix) "failsafe" should boot
[09:25] <thedude> fyrestrtr: is it on the download page?
[09:25] <thedude> gyaresu: tried that
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> yes
[09:26] <thedude> gyaresu:no dice
[09:26] <ndkk3> brb
[09:26] <gyaresu> thedude, pci or agp gfx card would be my next try. doesn't seem to like your chip.
[09:26] <ic56> ndkk3: /var/run contains ephemeral files.  They get removed when the process that created them dies.  So don't worry about them
[09:26] <ku> !resolution
[09:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <Desh> Would overclocking a mobile AMD64 Athlon be a bad idea?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Desh: yeah
[09:27] <gyaresu> Desh, is it in a laptop?
[09:27] <Lopa> so for downloading synaptic i would use apt-get install synaptic
[09:27] <Desh> Yes.
[09:27] <gyaresu> Desh would you like to cook it?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Desh: its a *very* bad idea
[09:27] <Desh> Haha no that's why I asked.
[09:27] <dli_> Desh, don't do it
[09:27] <Lopa> ?
[09:27] <gyaresu> Desh, what fyrestrtr said ;)
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Lopa: synaptic comes with ubuntu. Just download the cd image, burn it, and boot from it.
[09:28] <Desh> I was wondering if even a small increase would cause damage?
[09:28] <ic56> jon27kc: good point about removing a user from /etc/sudoers.  Thanks
[09:28] <ku> Hey, what do you guys think is the most used / best music player? I can't stand Rhythmbox
[09:28] <thedude> gyaresu: it's definitly too old for agp, as far as I can remember, it's just an onboard chip
[09:28] <Desh> I wasn;t actually going to, I just wanted to get better opinions than my own.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Desh: if you have money around to purchase a new laptop, sure you can try to fry...I mean, overclock it. But if I were you, I wouldn't.
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Desh: good call on getting a second opinion.
[09:29] <Desh> fyrestrtr: haha ok thank. Yeah I was just curious.
[09:29] <xed> Is there any site I can go to check out how well ubuntu runs on certain machines?
[09:29] <move> fyrestrtr: I can't load X anymore so I can't view that wiki page... was I supposted to change the "screen" in the "ServerLayout" to aticonfig-Screen[0]  or in the "screen" section?
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> ku: amarok, bmp, xmms, banshee are some that I have tried.
[09:29] <dli_> Desh, amd k8 laptop cpus already had higher TPD then intel core-duo (or pentium-m)
[09:29] <xed> Anyone?
[09:29] <gyaresu> Desh, the percentage increase you would gain would be offset by heat and battery use. Pretty pointless.
[09:29] <bbrazil> move: use lynx to view the web from the CLI
[09:29] <zerostarhx> grrrr I'm having trouble, I've downloaded a package that wasn't in my apt and used synaptic to extract it to a folder, but i'm having trouble getting it to launch, anyone help?
[09:29] <move> I think common sense tells me in the ServerLayout section
[09:29] <move> ahh, yes lynx
[09:29] <dli_> Desh, if you want speed, wait for merom from intel
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> move: I don't know what you were trying to do?
[09:29] <ku> fyrestrtr: : I liked amarok, not so much xmms
[09:30] <thedude> I had the same probelm with knoppixSTD on my pc
[09:30] <gyaresu> xed don't know one but throw the specs up and what you want to do....
[09:30] <ku> Oh well, I guess i'll just stick with amarok
[09:30] <move> fyrestrtr: err, here
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> oh ati dude.
[09:30] <Desh> dli_: yeah I was looking at those a few minutes ago. Are they much faster than AMD's current dual core mobile processors?
[09:30] <bobbyw> fyrestrtr: we're you the one who sent me the link for ati
[09:30] <bobbyw> yeah
[09:30] <gyaresu> zerostarhx, grab the source and compile it yourself.
[09:30] <xed> gyaresu: I have an AMD Athlon 550MHz, with 128MB SDRAM, an SiS 4MB Video card (PCI), and a 10GB harddrive
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: /msg me -- I'll help you get it sorted out.
[09:31] <dli_> Desh, turion x2 is already slower than core duo
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> xed: a 4 MB video card?! My phone has more memory for its video
[09:31] <xed> gyaresu: I just want to put it up as a small computer that I can use as a work station for backup now and then.. and maybe use it as a server?
[09:31] <zerostarhx> Gyaresu: Sorry I'm very new to ubuntu lol I will take some patience :X I'm not sure how to or what you mean.
[09:31] <cool_nick> are there any editors with which i can view .chm files?
[09:31] <dli_> xed, 128MB ram might be the bottleneck
[09:31] <gyaresu> xed, fine. just be a bit slow if you want to run more than a couple of progs.   Another way to say it is Synaptic is a glorified front-end to apt...
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> xed: you could use it as a gateway/router/server type machine.
[09:32] <gyaresu> zerostarhx, what's the software you are trying to run...
[09:32] <Desh> dli_: Are the duo cores faster that the mobile Athlons?
[09:32] <zerostarhx> Skype for
[09:32] <xed> fyrestrtr: That's pretty much what I plan to do with it..
[09:32] <dli_> xed, try debian, ubuntu might be too heavy for it
[09:32] <zerostarhx> I finally found out what format i needed TBZ or something, if this helps
[09:32] <xed> fyrestrtr: And maybe install some office-like application (maybe open office?) and use it for that..
[09:33] <xed> dli_: too late, already installing ubuntu..
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> cool_nick: sudo apt-get install gnochm
[09:33] <bobbyw> ahh, crap
[09:33] <bobbyw> no pms til I register
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> xed: no, that would not work too good.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> bobbyw: /j #ati-help
[09:33] <gyaresu> dli_, xed I run 450's with 128 and 10GB HDD with xubuntu and it's just fine
[09:33] <dli_> Desh, yes, according to benchmarks, core duo is faster in all area then turion x2, at least almost all area
[09:34] <cool_nick> fyrestrtr: getting this error : E: Couldn't find package gnochm
[09:34] <Desh> dli_: ah ok, thanks. :)
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> !info gnochm
[09:34] <ubotu> gnochm: CHM file viewer for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-1build1 (dapper), package size 99 kB, installed size 636 kB
[09:34] <xed> gyaresu: what's xubuntu?
[09:34] <dli_> gyaresu, can you run ubuntu (or xubuntu ) livecd?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> cool_nick: enable universe and multiverse
[09:34] <romulo> when i get X not entering and the error saying that fixed font could not be loaded, what should i do?
[09:34] <romulo> =p
[09:35] <dli_> Desh, also, turion x2 has higher TPD
[09:35] <gyaresu> dli_, xed you can just get the server version of ubuntu and then install a lightweight WM. Works a treat.
[09:35] <xed> ..WM?
[09:35] <dli_> gyaresu, why not just debian?
[09:35] <gyaresu> xed, sorry Window Manager.
[09:35] <xed> gyaresu: I understand... ....
[09:35] <gyaresu> dli_, Because this is Debian.
[09:36] <ic56> foobear: we were talking about /etc/profile ~/.profile
[09:36] <xed> gyaresu: what is this 'server' installation?
[09:36] <Desh> ok well im out, goodnight/day all. :)
[09:36] <xed> bye bye Desh.
[09:36] <cool_nick> fyrestrtr: still getting the same thing
[09:36] <xed> I just realized I'm installing version 5.04...
[09:36] <gyaresu> xed, just installing the base without  xorg or a window manager. really really small. then you just add what you need.
[09:37] <ic56> foobear: /etc/profile is read first.  It provides the system configuration which is common to all users.  It is owned and managed by the system administrator
[09:37] <xed> gyaresu: I'd need quite a bit of experience with linux to do that, no?
[09:37] <spike> its not that hard
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> cool_nick: did you enable universe?
[09:37] <spike> you just need to know that the server is gonna be used for
[09:37] <xed> spike: you didn't finish...
[09:38] <ic56> foobear: ~/.profile is read second.  It provides private configuration for each user.  Each user owns his own such file and has the freedom to modify it as he pleases.  The initial default is copied by useradd from /etc/skel
[09:38] <ic56> foobear: does that clarify it?
[09:38] <spike> thats about all i had to say, i dont really know what he needs
[09:41] <xed> spike: I just need a small backup machine that can run an office-like application (similar to MS Office), surf the net, and maybe use it as a web server?
[09:41] <helpplz> I get no sound in quake3 how can I fix?
[09:41] <ruiwen> hi guys, is the dapper installation able to resize ntfs partitions?
[09:42] <spike> hrm
[09:42] <Chubbly> i'm in a similar position to xed here
[09:42] <MetaMorfoziS> !lmsensors
[09:42] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[09:42] <spike> you need the basic install
[09:42] <Chubbly> xubunutu?
[09:42] <xed> spike: Would it bad if I told you I just pressed enter when the splash screen came up
[09:43] <xed> ?
[09:43] <spike> because your probably gonna want to run OpenOffice.org, its an exellent word proccessor that works great with word
[09:43] <spike> yes
[09:43] <xed> ...well spike, I DID press enter. =(
[09:43] <spike> anyway, just install any version (except edubuntu, i guess)
[09:43] <spike> just restart then
[09:43] <xed> ..oh man
[09:43] <xed> It's like 3:43 AM here
[09:43] <spike> rough
[09:44] <spike> you didnt permantly bonker anything
[09:44] <xed> Not like I'm sleeping till 6 AM anyways, but you know.. it's 3:43 AM!
[09:44] <xed> OH GOD it's DOING things!
[09:44] <xed> random text is flying off of the monitor!
[09:44] <spike> haha
[09:44] <spike> yea
[09:44] <xed> updating maybe?
[09:44] <spike> try a cold powerdown
[09:44] <spike> hold the button
[09:44] <farous> Chubbly: is your system low on resources such as ram speed and disk space
[09:44] <donkeyofdarkness> hello
[09:44] <spike> wait, what do you have installed?
[09:44] <ku> Hmm, is there any way to remove Rhythmbox? When I try to remove it through Synaptic, it makes me delete ubuntu-desktop too
[09:44] <Chubbly> yes
[09:45] <xed> Ubuntu v.5.04...
[09:45] <ruiwen> hi.. is the dapper installation supposed to be able to resize NTFS partitions?
[09:45] <farous> Chubbly: then xubuntu is a good choice
[09:45] <xed> I put in the installation CD, booted.. when splash screen came up.. I pressed enter
[09:45] <dli_> ruiwen, yes, parted can do it
[09:45] <Chubbly> okay, good
[09:45] <Chubbly> thank you
[09:45] <xed> farous: I wish someone would tell me what xubuntu is...
[09:45] <farous> your welcomed
[09:45] <spike> why are you installing 5.04
[09:45] <spike> ?
[09:45] <farous> xed: xface desktop
[09:45] <xed> spike: Because that's the CD that I got in the mail?
[09:45] <spike> farous is probably right
[09:45] <spike> xfce is light
[09:45] <spike> and you can run oo.o
[09:45] <xed> I just realized I finished downloading the latest.. 6.06 version..
[09:45] <spike> and cron to do your backup
[09:45] <spike> good call farous!
[09:46] <farous> :)
[09:46] <ruiwen> dli: i just tried to install it on a friend's laptop though.. but immediately after committing the changes, gparted hightlighted the partitions in black.. which i assume means it's corrupted?
[09:46] <ruiwen> any caveats to resizing NTFS?
[09:46] <farous> i hear there is fluxbuntu now
[09:46] <tabman> how can I change the default OS that grub loads ?
[09:46] <spike> edit the config file
[09:46] <spike> im really bad at that though
[09:46] <iiiears> ku - I din't know why it does that./ - unerving as hell. - i have removed other apps and seen the same message with no obvious harm done.
[09:46] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm having a problem getting my keyboard to work with ubuntu 5.10 for PPC
[09:46] <ruiwen> tabman: edit the "default" line in grub.conf?/menu.lst?
[09:46] <jipi> !nvidia
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <spike> donkey: whats not working right?
[09:47] <xed> I bet all this 'unpacking' the computer is doing would be a lot faster on a faster processor.. .. this 550MHz processor just not that fast. =(
[09:47] <tabman> ruiwen: where is this file ?
[09:47] <donkeyofdarkness> I booted the live cd but the keyboard isn't working at the boot menu
[09:47] <iiiears> ku - "removing ubuntu desktop" is scarey. - anyone know why it does that when you remove something?
[09:47] <ruiwen> tabman: try /boot/grub for menu.lst
[09:47] <spike> xed: go and download xubuntu, itll run on a machine like that, and do everything oyu ant
[09:47] <xed> Hmm.. and it seems that I've also just FINISHED BURNING version 6.06 LTS (whatever LTS means?!?)
[09:47] <ku> iiiears: ok, so it won't do any serious damage?
[09:48] <spike> donkey: this is a usb keyboard, right?
[09:48] <ruiwen> xed: long term support?
[09:48] <iiiears> ku - I am gussing no. - but would really like someone to explain it.
[09:48] <xed> ruiwen: NOW I know! </bill nye the science guy>
[09:48] <benplaut> anyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?
[09:48] <spike> xed: long term support
[09:48] <donkeyofdarkness> It's a PS/2 kb plugged into a PS/2 to usb converter
[09:48] <farous> iiiears: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package (virual package) that depends on all required packages. removing it will not break anything/ It is required thought for dist-upgrade
[09:48] <spike> usb doesnt always work on initial boot up
[09:48] <xed> spike: Where do I get xubuntu?
[09:49] <spike> can you get through it using your mouse and the screen keyboard?
[09:49] <donkeyofdarkness> It's worked in the past, although it only worked about half the time.
[09:49] <spike> xed: ubuntu.com. its a link on the side
[09:49] <xed> spike: it's still unpacking things..
[09:49] <donkeyofdarkness> screen keyboard?
[09:49] <spike> ill give you the direct download link if you want
[09:49] <spike> because it is
[09:49] <iiiears> farous - Ah.. - a bit of light there. - thanks.      Will that change the way i do the upgrade to edgy eft?
[09:49] <xed> Curses! I should've downloaded/burned this!
[09:50] <ruiwen> anyone tried resizing an ntfs partition in the dapper install?
[09:50] <spike> donkey: applications -> accessories > charecter map
[09:50] <Ramunas> can anybody help me to get winfast tv2000 xp tv-tuner to work?
[09:50] <farous> iiiears: it is recommended to have ubnuntu-desktop when you upgrade to edgy. will reduce upgrade problems
[09:50] <deeproot> Hi, I am trying to install courier-imap but apt-get is forcing me to install postfix (as extra package) which I don't need. How can I specify it not to install postfix?
[09:50] <iiiears> farous - nvm - a fresh install is likely the best way to upgrade
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm on PPC
[09:51] <spike> ooo, so your not using the livecd install?
[09:51] <farous> iiiears: you do not need that this is not rpm based packages;) for fresh install will loose all your custom configurations
[09:51] <donkeyofdarkness> It's ubuntu 5.10
[09:51] <spike> k
[09:52] <ku> farous: so you wouldn't recommend that I remove Rhythmbox? (which forces me to remove ubuntu-desktop in the process)
[09:52] <spike> im not your man then, i think a script would be your best choice if it has to be 5.10
[09:52] <donkeyofdarkness> k
[09:52] <farous> ku you can install ubuntu-desktop just befoe dist-upgrade ;)
[09:52] <xed> spike: thanks a lot man, for this xubuntu reference, and anyone else who referred me to it
[09:52] <xed> Hopefully this'll be faster for my AMD 550
[09:52] <ku> farous: I'll probably forget... i'll just leave it in there for now then ^^ thx
[09:52] <donkeyofdarkness> It'd probably work if I had an apple keyboard
[09:53] <spike> donkey: probably, i think its the kernel not loading the drivers yet/not having them installed
[09:53] <spike> xed: no prod dude, do you need anything else?
[09:54] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah, sometimes even OS X doesn't detect the keyboard or mouse.
[09:54] <xed> spike: what would you say I use that will support most MS Office files?
[09:54] <farous> xed: do you mix a lot of figures and text in your files and do lots of formating and equations
[09:54] <spike> OpenOffice.org, which is very featureful, but uses alot of memory, or if your on a memory budget, AbiWord, which is lighter and supports .docs and whatnot, and uses less memories
[09:54] <xed> fabbione: Yes, sometimes...
[09:55] <spike> xed: use oo,o then
[09:55] <xed> er.. what?
[09:55] <farous> xed: can you forget about msoffice and use a similar package
[09:55] <xed> farous: I don't really think MS Office will work on it.. I just want the files I use to work on it..
[09:55] <xed> for example, power point presentation files?
[09:56] <farous> openoffice will still have some problems exporting and importing from msoffice especially for complicated formats such as equations
[09:56] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, so do you use ext3 or reiserfs?
[09:56] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i solve the liblircclient0 problem?
[09:56] <xed> Hmm.. farous: any other substitute other than open office?
[09:56] <spike> abiword
[09:56] <farous> xed: for powerpoint you will have to adjust your equations a little
[09:56] <farous> xed: but openoffice have the best integration in the linux world with ms office
[09:57] <xed> farous: Alright, thanks a bunch.. Open Office it is..
[09:57] <farous> xed: in my case i had to have absolute compatbility so i run msoffice under linux
[09:57] <spike> xed: hes right, abiword is lighter, but oo.o is alot better if you need more than basic functionally
[09:57] <spike> funtionallity*
[09:57] <xed> farous: what about ..hmm.. say I have a printer installed on a desktop using windows, and I share that printer over the network.. would I be able to use the printer?
[09:58] <spike> yea
[09:58] <farous> xed: depending if your printer is supported
[09:58] <spike> xed: you need to set it up using smb, but itll probably work as long as its not too exotic
[09:58] <A-L-P-H-4> how do I connect to a local win32 computers shared folder/drive?  The destination is already shared, and viewable by other win32 machines.  I've installed samba
[09:58] <livingdaylight> woah
[09:58] <farous> linuxprinting.org to see if it is supported or not
[09:58] <spike> farous: does he need nfs do to that?
[09:58] <spike> alpha that is
[09:59] <xed> spike: what do you mean 'as long as it's not too exotic' ?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: both
[09:59] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, gnome or kde?
[09:59] <farous> spikr my printer is not supported so never actually gone through this config
[09:59] <farous> sorry spike
[09:59] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, gnome.
[09:59] <xed> and what's smb?
[10:00] <benplaut> anyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?
[10:00] <spike> xed: its a networking interface between linux and windows
[10:00] <gyaresu> xed small message block
[10:00] <iiiears> xed - http:\\codeweavers.com\  - MS Office on linux or XEN/QEMU/VMWare Player with windows guest OS  - 1 vote here for VMWare
[10:00] <spike> farous: that means you need to search the ubuntu or linuxquestions.org forums on getting the drivers
[10:00] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, do you want to permanently mount the remote folder?
[10:00] <xed> iiiears: will keep that in mind
[10:00] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, well... I'd like to learn both... perm and temp.
[10:00] <farous> spike: i did my homework it is not supported :)
[10:01] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, smbmount
[10:01] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, both, on the same box? no, that is not possible right?
[10:01] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, it's a laptop (ubuntu) trying to connect to my winXP sp2 workstation.
[10:01] <spike> farous: rough dude, I dont know what to tell you then
[10:01] <farous> spike: nothing i knew that when i installed ubuntu
[10:01] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[10:01] <spike> farous: ive heard of people installing drivers under wine, but i dont know if thats just a myth
[10:01] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, bit different if you're putting it in your /etc/fstab
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: sure it is.
[10:02] <DShepherd> how do I customise the launchers in my places menu?
[10:02] <farous> spike: frankly i doubt it. i dual boot for sccanning and printing which i do frequently
[10:02] <livingdaylight> ok, can someone check my fdkisk -l i want to know if and how i can shave a considerable amount off to create another partition for a dual-boot
[10:02] <farous> so not a biggy here
[10:02] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18843
[10:02] <`paul> doing a command "make" but received "func.c:1:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory" error help pls
[10:02] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, thank you.  now how's it different in the fstab?
[10:02] <spike> farous: no prob
[10:02] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, and a credential file is a handy thing...//slave/stuff   /mnt/stuff      smbfs   credentials=/root/.smb_slave_stuff,auto,rw,dmask=777,fmask=777  0       0
[10:02] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4,  ^^
[10:02] <spike> paul: that sounds like a syntax problem, do oyu have gcc installed?
[10:03] <`paul> where are my stdlib.h etc located?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, huh? so one needn't be consistent with using one system or the other on one machine?
[10:03] <spike> it should have come with gcc
[10:03] <`paul> i think the problem is he cant locate thos files
[10:03] <`paul> @spike
[10:03] <spike> there standard c header files
[10:03] <spike> o
[10:03] <marcus__> Is it possible to play mkv files in linux?
[10:03] <spike> paul: not sure then
[10:03] <MeTa[AwAy] _> why i need liblircclient0 and libc6? if i want to install some codecs it said it needs
[10:03] <xed> I do NOT understand what just happened...
[10:03] <dli_> `paul, get build-essential
[10:04] <gyaresu> marcus__, matroska files... i think so.
[10:04] <MeTa[AwAy] _> but i don't need linux infrared client, because the stable ver is old
[10:04] <marcus__> gyaresu: any idea which player to use?
[10:04] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, thanks.
[10:04] <gyaresu> marcus__, videolan
[10:04] <xed> damnit! I think I just downloaded/burned the LIVE cd for the latest one ! =(
[10:04] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, you're welcome.
[10:04] <marcus__> gyaresu: I'll give it a try and share if it works. Thanks.
[10:04] <gyaresu> marcus__, or mplayer
[10:05] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, What happens when there is no password for a share?  I did sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/e
[10:05] <DShepherd> how do I customise the launchers in my places menu?
[10:05] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, username=,password=
[10:05] <`paul> wat do you mean @dli_
[10:05] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, leave them blank
[10:05] <farous> `paul: install build-essential package
[10:05] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, did you go to the loo?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with my partitioning table?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18843
[10:06] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=,password= //<IP_ADDRESS>/e" still spits back wrong fs type.
[10:06] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, aye.
[10:06] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, mount_data version<PHONE_NUMBER> is not supported
[10:07] <A-L-P-H-4> google is my friend. :)
[10:07] <livingdaylight> my hard drive (sda) is now sda1, sda2 and sda5
[10:07] <farous> `paul: that to install c and other packages you need to compile
[10:07] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you'll not like this but... get another HDD. even a small one. It's just not worth nuking a drive over.
[10:07] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, odd.
[10:07] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, nuking?
[10:08] <iiiears> A-L-P-H-4 - google is a good friend indeed. - could they have made that error message any more cryptic?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, 160 should be plenty to create a dual-boot, no?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, are you suggesting i would destroy it?
[10:08] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, Partitioning is still black magic. Chances of nuking your partition stucture is not worth the greif (if there's anything you want to keep on the 160GB drive that is...)
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: helping someone in another channel. Look, you can have as many partitions as your system can support, each can be of a different type. I have one reiserfs and one ext3. On my server I have a partition type for all the different arch. we use at the company.
[10:09] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, yes. it is as long as it's not your only computer and you care about the data on it.
[10:09] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, /me only ever dual with multiple drives (except my laptops)
[10:09] <xed> "x" won't start
[10:09] <xed> man, ubuntu's getting to me again..
[10:10] <gyaresu> xed, cat /var/log/Xorg.log.blah
[10:10] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, "sudo apt-get install smbfs" fixed it.
[10:10] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, its only a fresh install so nothing precious here, and yes, its my own computer to trash so....
[10:10] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, how can i change from ext2 to ext3 ?
[10:10] <gyaresu> A-L-P-H-4, sorry. my bad. i knew that.
[10:10] <farous> xed: did you install it or is that the livecd
[10:10] <iiiears> xed - Take a deep breath. go to thje fridge for a cold drink and relax we'll get you through this.
[10:10] <A-L-P-H-4> gyaresu, np... you pointed me to smbfs... I didn't even know that... or I forget it at least. :)
[10:10] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you doing xp or another linux?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, wow, each partition can have a different file journaling system
[10:10] <xed> farous: i installed it... and it says "x" isn't located in the right place or something the other and it can't boot it...
[10:10] <snoops> anyone having issues with gaim connecting?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, another linux
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: yes.
[10:11] <IRCMonkeyx> hi to all, how can i change my linux drive  from ext2 to ext3 ?
[10:11] <farous> xed: is the box you have ubuntu on connected to the net
[10:11] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, df -h
[10:11] <xed> and I just downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and burned it.. and restarted with that in there..and it just says something about "Adding live CD user...".. ...does that mean it's a live cd?
[10:11] <iiiears> xed = "sudo lspci" in the terminal write down what it says about the vga device
[10:11] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i have 160gb but when i install ubuntu why does it come up as 149gb?
[10:12] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, Back it up first and then...
[10:12] <iiiears> xed - feeling nerdy? - try sudo lspci -v
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: do you have any other operating system on it?
[10:12] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, binary v. decimal.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> no need for sudo on lspci
[10:12] <xed> iiiears: going above my head here.....
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> xed: lspci | grep VGA
[10:12] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, marketing department ruined the measurement of HDD's many years ago and it is now just silly cause the drives are so large.
[10:13] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: is it releated with fstab??
[10:13] <xed> fyrestrtr, iiiears: where do I go about typing all this in...?
[10:13] <`paul> how do u search for files?
[10:13] <livingdaylight> gyaresu,  df -h: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18845
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> xed: in a terminal window
[10:13] <xed> man.. what the HELL...
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> `paul: in nautilus or at the terminal?
[10:13] <xed> ..THERE we go
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> !terminal
[10:13] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:13] <farous> `paul: located filename and find filename
[10:13] <xed> I see a graphical user interface.. I think..
[10:13] <xed> Well.. I see a MOUSE
[10:13] <iiiears> xed -  That ugly (should a been a GUI by now screen) command line
[10:13] <xed> ..on screen
[10:14] <xed> ...that's about it.. I'm guessing it's a live cd
[10:14] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, http://xlife.zuavra.net/columns/20020211/
[10:14] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, no, that is what flumexes me. It says there is 160gb, but when i click to manually partition then it says only 149
[10:14] <xed> because it's going REALLY SLOW
[10:14] <`paul> terminal
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: is your bios detecting it correctly?
[10:14] <xed> I managed to download Ubuntu (the 650MB ISO) in 10 minutes, while this xubuntu is taking me an HOUR...
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> xed: bad mirror
[10:14] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: thanx
[10:14] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you are on a fresh system. partitioning from a LiveCD?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> xed: by the way, why are you downloading the xubuntu iso?
[10:15] <xed> fyrestrtr: link me to a faster one?
[10:15] <xed> fyrestrtr: because.. someone suggested it be better for a slower machine...?
[10:15] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, says 160 and ubuntu installer says 160 and gives me the option to use all of it or to manually partition when i manually partition i see 149
[10:15] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, backupbackupbackupbackup
[10:15] <rpedro_> IRCMonkeyx: or this one: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm
[10:15] <iiiears> xed - bad mnirror? - jeez will it take seven years for him to D/L it?
[10:15] <xed> seven years?!
[10:15] <xed> Oh man, I hope not
[10:15] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, yes, fresh that is i have just installed from liveCD
[10:16] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, partion away then.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> xed: you don't have an operating system installed on there yet?
[10:16] <xed> I tried all the servers, are they all capped to a maximum speed of 125KBps?
[10:16] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: new linux user here, how to backup, any spesific tool for it?
[10:16] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: new linux user here, how to backup, any spesific tool for it?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> livingdaylight: you are probably a victim of unit conversion.
[10:16] <xed> fyrestrtr: Apparently NOT but I am SURE that 5.04 finished.. but 5.04 wouldn't.. boot "x", whatever that is..
[10:16] <xed> and then it took me to this screen to login
[10:16] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, sure, that is the slightly tricky part. HOW? or what? sda1?
[10:16] <Hobbsee> IRCMonkeyx: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[10:17] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, how big are your drives? how full? etc. "df -h" "fdisk -l"
[10:17] <livingdaylight> fyrestrtr, well, i'm certainly a victim of something i know that ; )
[10:17] <livingdaylight> ;0
[10:17] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, yes. sda1
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> xed: sorry to tell you this, but you could have saved yourself a lot of hassle, by downloading the alternate install cd, type 'server' at the boot prompt and then typing sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[10:17] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, and i need to make it sdb1?
[10:18] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, nope. 'serial disk a partition 1'
[10:18] <xed> " 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX Mach64 GX]  (rev 01) "
[10:18] <iiiears> xed - when ya get to the darn blues screen that tells you how bad the xserver setup went, take a deep breath a cold drink of soda and use the info from lspci about bus ID 0.01.0  - (looks like that tho yours may be different)
[10:18] <xed> I get that when I type in "lspci | grep VGA in the terminal window
[10:19] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, ok, you lost me
[10:19] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i am on xp now, but my linux drive is 14.42 gb and it is new may be 3-4 gb, i have winmodem no connection from ubuntu
[10:19] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: i am on xp now, but my linux drive is 14.42 gb and it is new may be i have data 3-4 gb, i have winmodem no connection from ubuntu
[10:19] <xed> iiiears: You lost me with the .. bus ID
[10:19] <cotroler> Hi guys just rebooted i got this error: EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) any help?
[10:19] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, you said sda1 needs to be used. so, i gotta rename what i remove so to speak
[10:19] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you need a 'serial disk a partition 2' and you'd be best doing that from a GUI Partioner like Gpart off a live disk.
[10:20] <iiiears> xed - then know you are going to have a working system in the time it takes to type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and answer a few questions at the prompt
[10:20] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i can use cfdisk ?
[10:20] <xed> iiiears: so you would like me to type in.. what?
[10:20] <BeBraw> how can i configure calendar to show dates in different order?
[10:20] <xed> I think I'm in a live version of this right now
[10:20] <benplaut> anyone know anything about getting integrated mem card readers working?
[10:21] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i'm also looking at Gparted on my system System/Admin/Gnome Partition Editor
[10:21] <iiiears> xed - It's gonna look something like "0.01.0"   plug those numbers you got form lspci into the sudo dpkg xserver-xorg thingy
[10:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, not good to cut a circular hole in the floor while your sitting in the middle ;)
[10:21] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, ^^
[10:21] <iiiears> xed - lspcii
[10:21] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, two computers?
[10:21] <xed> iiiears: When I type in "lspci | grep VGA" into the terminal, I get  " 0000:00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 210888GX Mach64 GX]  (rev 01) "
[10:21] <iiiears> lspci - eye canned spell
[10:22] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, ooops....is it like sawing a branch off a tree while sitting on the wrong side of it?
[10:22] <IRCMonkeyx> gyaresu: one computer , two OS
[10:22] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, indeed.
[10:22] <livingdaylight> he is confused, only utterly
[10:22] <gyaresu> IRCMonkeyx, ah. two drives?
[10:22] <xed> iiiears: what do I do with this information?
[10:22] <MeTa[AwAy] __> !audacious
[10:22] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, i understand the metaphor but not in the context of our discussion
[10:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about audacious - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:23] <cotroler> !EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found)
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about EE: Failed to initialize GLX Extension (NVIDIA X Driver not found) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:23] <livingdaylight> gyaresu, can i use cfdisk to partition or shave off sda1 and then resinstall ubuntu if i had to?
[10:23] <gyaresu> livingdaylight, you can't do the partitioning from the OS because you only have one partion where all the progs etc are running from.
[10:23] <iiiears> xed - plug the numbers in there.  to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - or grab a gander at a couple of examples from folks with ATI cards on the web and copy the bus id line