[12:13] <Seveas> so a war between them would depend completely on preference, just like a vim vs emacs war
[12:13] <mika0800> serengeti: btw: I made a serial port / Ir-port client app myself.
[12:14] <Pygi> Seveas: well, thats true...well, after all, everything comes down to prefference.....
[12:14] <mika0800> With serial ports it works fine. With IrDA, I need to test later
[12:14] <Pygi> Seveas: the language is good if the developer is good
[12:14] <Pygi> Seveas: a good coder could make more and better things in "bad" language, then a bad coder in "good" language
[12:15] <errr> I had nvidia drivers working but then I updated my system, and now X will not start, what needs to be reinstalled/configured for them to work again?
[12:15] <Pygi> errr: reconfigure X server
[12:15] <errr> the only thing updated was the kernel image btw
[12:16] <JoeBlow> just got a new 80 gig harddrive at the store, paid 20  for this baby
[12:16] <JoeBlow> 80 gig, maxtor, 8mb cache
[12:16] <mika0800> so /etc/modules is still in use in 2.6 -series kernels ?
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> mika0800: yup
[12:16] <force> errr, recompile the nvidia drivers
[12:17] <karlwrk> and if you upgraded your kernel and lost sound, what do you do then?
[12:17] <errr> force: I didnt compile them to being with, but I did do a reinstall of them from synaptic
[12:17] <mika0800> JoeBlow, 20 what units? Can you specify in letters, the currency symbol you try to use comes out as rubbish
[12:17] <force> errr, just make sure the nvidia drivers are in sync with the kernel you're running
[12:17] <cafuego> Can I just note my machine is using over 500Mb of swap.
[12:17] <errr> force: hmm ok.
[12:17] <Madpilot> cafuego: with now much actual RAM?
[12:17] <serengeti> mika0800: I don't yet have any serial port client app yet but echo "AT <Cr>" > /dev/ircomm0 causes some activity in irdadump
[12:18] <cafuego> Madpilot: 1.5GB
[12:18] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: you poor chap ;)
[12:18] <saif> my swap mem is 2.gb
[12:18] <Madpilot> cafuego: wow - WTF are you doing?!?
[12:18] <saif> well i wanted a mp3 player
[12:18] <cafuego> Madpilot: I think beagle is indexing :-)
[12:18] <saif> let me know
[12:18] <Madpilot> cafuego: heh - guess they haven't fixed all of beagle's memory leaks, then...
[12:19] <cafuego> Madpilot: Nooooooo
[12:19] <mika0800> serengeti: if you use echo, maybe you should use /r to make <Cr> ... which means carriage return (ascii 13 decimal or 0x0D for C programmers)
[12:19] <cafuego> well, the load is back down to 7 at least
[12:19] <cafuego> mika0800: no, \r
[12:19] <mika0800> oh, try it with some freecall number, like echo ATDT0800123456;/r (note the semicolon; that makes a voice call, otherwise it tries to make a data call)
[12:19] <marcin`> hi all
[12:20] <marcin`> got a pretty strange question
[12:20] <marcin`> does ubuntu support mouse connected via COM port?
[12:20] <marcin`> I connected pretty old mouse to my old PC and started Ubuntu Breezy Live
[12:21] <marcin`> and it doesn't support COM mous
[12:21] <marcin`> mouse
[12:21] <cafuego> marcin`: It would, but I doubt it would automatically detect it.
[12:21] <CosminG> hi all
[12:21] <saif> i want to play mp3 file
[12:21] <CosminG> i download the skype package
[12:21] <thoreauputic_> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:21] <cafuego> saif: so install an mp3 player.
[12:21] <CosminG> how do I install it?
[12:21] <marcin`> what about installed version? (not Live) ?
[12:21] <Pygi> !skype
[12:21] <cafuego> marcin`: 100% identical.
[12:21] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:21] <cafuego> marcin`: Yopu'd have to TELL it you have a serial mouse.
[12:21] <dell500> is there any way to have two instances of totem movie player?
[12:22] <CosminG> ubotu thank you
[12:22] <ubotu> CosminG: de rien
[12:22] <Pygi> !patience
[12:22] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:22] <marcin`> cafuego: hmm how can I TELL that I have serial mouse?
[12:22] <saif> any one prefer to tell me
[12:22] <thoreauputic_> dell500: try disabling system sounds - or read about dmix
[12:22] <saif> i want to play mp3 file
[12:22] <thoreauputic_> !dmix
[12:22] <ubotu> hmm... dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:22] <Madpilot> !tell saif about mp3
[12:22] <cafuego> marcin`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:22] <cafuego> marcin`: You probably also need to laod the 'sermouse' module.
[12:23] <Pygi> xfree86??? who has xfree? :/
[12:23] <cafuego> eh
[12:23] <cafuego> xorg
[12:23] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: erm - xserver-xorg ?
[12:23] <thoreauputic_> :)
[12:23] <cafuego> force of habit, 4 years of #debian ;-)
[12:23] <mika0800> marcin: if ubuntu does not use xfree86, then I don't know. With debian it is as easy as booting from KnoppixCD and copying the Knoppix-mad xFree86 conf file over debian's...
[12:23] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: yeah, it becomes a reflex ;-)
[12:24] <marcin`> cafuego: ok thanks got it.... some serial mouse howto
[12:24] <Pygi> cafuego: huh, 8.5 years of Slackaware ... aka series 2.x
[12:24] <marcin`> thanks all
[12:24] <cafuego> Pygi: My penis is also large.
[12:24] <saif> cafuego, what mp3 player should i download?
[12:24] <Pygi> :/
[12:24] <cafuego> saif: On gnome, try 'rhythmbox'. That also required 'gstreamer-0.8-mad'
[12:25] <thoreauputic_> saif: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player is another posssibility
[12:25] <mika0800> well... maybe I will reboot my ubuntu PC... let's see if my network still works after the reboot....
[12:25] <saif> ok let me try this on terminal
[12:25] <saif> i'm new to ubuntu i just move from suse to ubuntu
[12:26] <karlwrk> can anyone even give me a _hint_ as to why I lost sound support when I built my own kernel.  all the alsa _and_ oss stuff is in there, artsd is running, I just don't get any output.  I know I can go back to the stock kernel, but it doesn't support some other things, and it certainly should be possible to run your own kernel
[12:26] <Pygi> !enter
[12:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:26] <thoreauputic_> saif: for mp3 preview in the nautilus file manager, install sox and mpg123
[12:26] <mika0800> karlwrk... if you have 2 or more sound cards (motherboard built-ins included) it may pick the wrong one...
[12:26] <karlwrk> mpg321 instead perhaps
[12:26] <] m[evilb> need some help installing wine
[12:26] <saif> will you provide me the link on private msg
[12:26] <Madpilot> saif: with the right codecs, totem or rythymbox can play mp3...
[12:26] <cafuego> saif: Why not use 'Synaptic' ?
[12:26] <Pygi> !wine
[12:27] <] m[evilb> !wine
[12:27] <thoreauputic_> karlwrk: yes, mpg321 probably works too
[12:27] <Pygi> ubotu tell ] m[evilb about wine
[12:27] <saif> ok i will try
[12:27] <Pygi> wine thingy with ubotu has problems :/
[12:27] <karlwrk> mika: no, just the one, it all worked without touching it before hand, my only thought is this "restricted-modules" package, but I don't know what it is reallyt even for, and google isn't forthcoming
[12:27] <saif> !Synaptic
[12:27] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:27] <bimberi> Pygi: nah, it's just long
[12:28] <] m[evilb> Pygi the problem is i cant install it like that, linux cant get on inet
[12:28] <saif> in ubuntu there's not xms player
[12:28] <Madpilot> Pygi: that !wine factiod is too long to display in-channel, that's why you get it as a pm from the bot
[12:28] <thoreauputic_> saif: xmms
[12:28] <Pygi> then compile it off source ] m[evilb
[12:29] <thoreauputic_> !info xmms
[12:29] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[12:29] <] m[evilb> Pygi i'm a complete noob with linux, just installed it yesterday
[12:29] <saif> yeah sorry!
[12:29] <Pygi> ] m[evilb: what do you want to run with wine? it's just for apps, not games....
[12:29] <saif> well, i also wanted to disable auto dialing while my computer starts
[12:30] <errr> well I removed all the things I installed for nvidia to begin with, then reinstalled them and followed all the same steps I did the first time, and I still cant get nvidia to work, X will not start unless I use nv
[12:30] <] m[evilb> pygi apps and steam
[12:30] <flogiston> Why does konsole or gnome-terminal start when i try to start xfterm4?
[12:30] <Pygi> steam: meaning games which support steam?
[12:30] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: as far as I know, xfterm4 uses gnome-terminal
[12:30] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: you could download the deb for local transfer to your ubuntu box - http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb
[12:31] <Pygi> and then dpkg -i file.deb
[12:31] <] m[evilb> yeah did all that
[12:31] <] m[evilb> still doesnt work
[12:31] <flogiston> When i don't have gnome-terminal or konsole installed xfterm4 start but if they are xfterm4 does not start.
[12:31] <flo> who plays Battlefield 2: Modern Combat?
[12:31] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: yep, that's a typical wine experience :P
[12:31] <] m[evilb> synaptic says the pakages are broken
[12:32] <] m[evilb> bimberi anyway of getting it to work?
[12:32] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: the pacj=kage appears to be  xfce4-terminal
[12:32] <] m[evilb> or other program i can try
[12:32] <saif> how can i disable
[12:32] <saif> auto dial
[12:32] <flogiston> thooreauputic, how do i fix this?
[12:33] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: need to see the error message really (i realise that isn't easy with no net connection)
[12:33] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: I don't really know to be honest - xfterm4 appears to start gnome-terminal here ( I prefer urxvt mostly)
[12:34] <flogiston> I just have konsole installed becuase i like to use yakuake which uses konsole.
[12:34] <flogiston> Gnome-terminal isn't installed at the moment.
[12:34] <cafuego> There, good boy.
[12:34] <] m[evilb> bimberi if i can get my usb wireless adapter installed i can get on net
[12:35] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: i have had some success using the sidenet wine config utility - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[12:35] <bimberi> !wireless
[12:35] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:35] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: have you tried other terminals? rxvt, aterm, urxvt ( urxvt is in the rxvt-unicode package and supports utf-8)
[12:35] <flogiston> Id like transparancy.
[12:35] <karlwrk> there can be only one! xterm for PM!
[12:36] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: aterm and urxvt do transparency with the -tr flag
[12:36] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: lots of other options in the man pages - and they start *fast*
[12:36] <flogiston> Think i looked fore the config when i hade som of the different terminals.
[12:37] <karlwrk> though I did kinda like the automatic url highlight in gnome-terminal
[12:38] <flogiston> karlwrk, isn't that a feature of the shell?
[12:38] <UncleD> How do I add /usr/local/mysql to my $PATH ?
[12:38] <cafuego> flogiston: no
[12:38] <cafuego> UncleD: Why did you do that?
[12:38] <karlwrk> flogiston: highlighting you could do in xterm, but not adding a rightlcick and "open in browser"
[12:38] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: /usr/local/bin should be in your PATH
[12:38] <flogiston> Aah you mean that.
[12:39] <UncleD> mysql explained to install to /usr/local/mysql though
[12:39] <UncleD> I'm needing to run two versions for testing, 4.1 and 5.0
[12:39] <cafuego> UncleD: WHy not just apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 though?
[12:39] <cafuego> Ah ok.
[12:39] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: just put a symlink in /usr/local/bin then
[12:39] <UncleD> ok i thought about doing that
[12:39] <cafuego> UncleD: You can edit $PATH in /etc/profile or in ~/.bashrc or by symlinking it in /usr/local/bin
[12:40] <UncleD> so a symlink is preferred over changing my $PATH thor?
[12:40] <cafuego> UncleD: You undountedly also want edit ld.so.conf though.
[12:40] <UncleD> and do what to it?
[12:40] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: I prefer it - YMMV
[12:40] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: most definitely do you NOT want to change your path
[12:40] <UncleD> so just make a symlink for mysql in /usr/local/bin
[12:40] <UncleD> and leave it at that?
[12:40] <cafuego> thoreauputic_: I prefer adding ~/.bin to my path and adding symlinks there.
[12:41] <UncleD> cafeugo: what does that do?
[12:41] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: yes that works too of course :)
[12:41] <cafuego> UncleD: Allows me to add stuff for me only.
[12:41] <cafuego> UncleD: and no root access required.
[12:42] <Friar> suggestion of a good rss reader for gnome anyone?
[12:42] <cafuego> Friar: thunderbird is nice
[12:42] <thoreauputic_> Friar: straw or liferea
[12:42] <Seveas> Friar, liferea
[12:42] <olicat> Friar, blam
[12:42] <Friar> thanks... I'll try 'em all
[12:43] <olicat> Friar, blam uses mono, which you may not want - but it's interface is nice and simple
[12:43] <JoeBlow> wheres the offtopic chatroom?
[12:43] <cafuego> JoeBlow: In the basement.
[12:43] <Friar> i dont know what mono is lol
[12:43] <cafuego> JoeBlow: See the door with the biohazard sign?
[12:43] <JoeBlow> cafuego, yea
[12:43] <olicat> Friar, it's linux's implementation of C#
[12:43] <Friar> but i've apt-getted it
[12:43] <Madpilot> JoeBlow: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <Friar> ok
[12:44] <thoreauputic_> JoeBlow: #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)
[12:44] <JoeBlow> Madpilot, :)
[12:44] <Friar> sorry for my ignorance :-)
[12:44] <Friar> u gotta start somewhere
[12:45] <Madpilot> good night, all
[12:45] <cafuego> Just don't start with C# <heh>
[12:45] <Friar> lol
[12:46] <johndarkhorse> see yall later
[12:46] <Friar> and dont start with VB either....
[12:46] <cafuego> VB is a simple beer, but nice.
[12:46] <j2dope> hi. is there anyway to make it so when I click my scroll button on my house, it comes up with a scrolling icon like on windows?
[12:46] <ben_underscore> cafuego, yuk
[12:46] <Friar> i like vb but its not like most other langauges
[12:46] <cafuego> Friar: http://www.fosters.com.au/enjoy/beer/victoria_bitter.htm
[12:46] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: so, if mysql is in /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql do you recommend that i do ln -s /usr/local/bin/mysql /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql (or is there a way to symlink the whole directory?)
[12:47] <j2dope> VB is grotty
[12:47] <Friar> when i moved on I had to work out what the symbols did lol { }
[12:47] <dell500> where do the files from wget download?
[12:47] <j2dope> fosters is unaustralian!
[12:47] <cafuego> dell500: to the current working dirdctory
[12:47] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: why don't you just symlink the executable?
[12:47] <cafuego> j2dope: so am i!
[12:47] <midwinter> ha fosters.
[12:47] <Friar> is there an ide equivilent to vb for linux though?
[12:47] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: maybe because there are many other programs useful
[12:47] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: in the bin/mysql directory
[12:47] <j2dope> so is there a way to make my scroll button do something when i click it in a browser?
[12:48] <cafuego> Friar: More or less; there's glade...
[12:48] <Friar> I've teied glade
[12:48] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: preferably id like to add the /usr/local/mysql/bin to my $PATH. how can i do that/
[12:48] <cafuego> Friar: anjuta?
[12:48] <Friar> tried glade and anjuta
[12:48] <cafuego> Friar: there's a Jave one, but I can't remember its name.
[12:48] <Friar> they are nice
[12:49] <Friar> but not quite the same as vb/delphi
[12:49] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: globally in /etc/bash.bashrc, but /etc/profile also sources that IIRC
[12:49] <ben_underscore> Friar, for java use netbeans or eclipse. both are ms visual studio equivalent
[12:49] <mwe> what's the debian_chroot part doing in .bashrc: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
[12:49] <serengeti> mika0800: I got gnome-ppp to talk to the modem in my Siemens
[12:49] <Friar> I would like something like Jdeveloper
[12:49] <ben_underscore> Friar, otherwise there is one for python that you might like...hang on i'll find the name
[12:49] <Friar> with the gui deisgner
[12:49] <cafuego> Friar: There's a non-free one called REALbasic
[12:50] <cafuego> Friar: Eclipse
[12:51] <UncleD> thoreauputic: that worked perfect. All i had to do was change /etc/profile
[12:51] <Mikl> hi! can anyone help me in understanding where my drive space leak? when I do df -h it shows that i have partition 9.2 G with 8.4 G used 395 M free. But when I try du it shows that all dirs are about 4 G so i wonder where is my 4 G of drive space. may be I'm doing something wrong?
[12:51] <mika0800> gnome-ppp? Is that a (serial/Irda) terminal  or, like it name suggests, a program to make ppp -connections over a (mobile) phone line ?
[12:51] <Friar> how do you get eclipse?
[12:51] <cafuego> Friar: via synaptic
[12:51] <cafuego> !info eclipse
[12:52] <Friar> i see a lot of packages but not sure which one
[12:52] <cafuego> grr
[12:52] <serengeti> mika0800: should make a ppp connection
[12:52] <cafuego> Just pick the most liklely one
[12:52] <ben_underscore> Friar, the python one is http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/
[12:52] <mika0800> did you try my echo ATDT0800123456;/r trick ?
[12:52] <Bjelleklang> is there a simple way to autostart a consolewindows at startup?
[12:53] <sudharsh> u mean the terminal?
[12:53] <mika0800> oh, in Ubuntu: where do I find the runlevel setting (to prevent X to start automatically, if I want  to start it with "startx" instead at will)
[12:53] <serengeti> mika0800: yes but I'm not sure how to tell if something happened :)
[12:54] <serengeti> mika0800: I did echo -e "ATDT0800123456;\r" > /dev/ircomm
[12:55] <ccooke> mika0800: Debian-derived distributions (like Ubuntu) don't use a particular runlevel to decide whether X runs or not
[12:55] <mika0800> That should make your mobile phone to make a voice call to what ever number you put after ATDT... to avoid extra phone bill, I adviced to use any 0800 -freecall number. And, you should see it from the mobile phone's display if it is calling somewhere...
[12:55] <ccooke> mika0800: you just need to tell the system not to start gdm, the graphical login manager
[12:55] <sudharsh> Bjelleklang : Try System > Preferences >Sessions
[12:55] <Bjelleklang> ok, thanks!
[12:55] <mika0800> ccooke: how ?
[12:55] <sudharsh> there you'll hav a tab called Startup Programs
[12:55] <ccooke> mika0800: In Breezy, you can do that with System->Administration->Services
[12:56] <mika0800> in Hoary, is it the same ?
[12:56] <sudharsh> wont bum do the job?
[12:56] <thoreauputic_> mika0800: update-rc.d gdm -f remove  IIRC
[12:57] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: if I want my test copy of mysql to start on reboots, i need to create a symbolic link for it called S20 etcc... in rc2.d?
[12:57] <serengeti> mika0800: it's not calling anywhere
[12:57] <ccooke> mika0800: In hoary, there's no graphical tool for it. In a terminal, run: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[12:57] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: umm - I'm not familiar with mysql sorry -
[12:57] <ccooke> mika0800: (and if you want to add it in again, you'd run: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' )
[12:57] <sudharsh> UncleD download webmin
[12:58] <Battlestar> hmm can someone help me with something
[12:58] <UncleD> sudharsh: I have webmin, what now?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Battlestar about ask
[12:58] <karlwrk> stupid bloody thing just powered off! it was supposed togive me warnings when running on batteries!
[12:58] <Hobbsee> karlwrk: happens to me as well - very annoying!
[12:58] <sudharsh> i guess u need to start mysql while booting right
[12:59] <karlwrk> suspend works pretty well, I guess that's a pluss
[12:59] <serengeti> mika0800: only thing that happens is some stuff appearing in irdadump
[12:59] <UncleD> sudharsh: correct. what do I do?
[12:59] <Battlestar> where do i enter startup paramenters!!!!
[12:59] <Battlestar> i've been stuck on this for about 3 hours now
[12:59] <Battlestar> had to format my machine twice
[12:59] <sudharsh> damn..i dont hav webmin now.....do u hav bum installed
[12:59] <Battlestar> and i haven't got anywehere
[12:59] <pappan> startup parameters for what ?
[12:59] <Battlestar> linux
[12:59] <Battlestar> ubuntu
[12:59] <sudharsh> Battlestar...what kinda startup params
[01:00] <mika0800> I am not very good with "C" converntions. But if /r will make a carriage return even as a parameter to echo, then ATDT0800123456;/r should make a call id your IrDa is ok
[01:00] <chtamina> i'm editing a configuration file, using visudo etc... but i do not know how should I do to save it when done
[01:00] <Battlestar> video=atyfb:vmode:5,cmode:32
[01:00] <Ng> chtamina: hit escape, then type :x and hit enter
[01:01] <Ng> chtamina: that will save and exit
[01:01] <mika0800> oh: if you are not running as root: either use sudo with the command or give everyone R/W permissions on /dev/ircomm0 (or whatever in your system)
[01:01] <Battlestar> i've been typing it into the boot: promt for the last 34 hours with no effect!
[01:01] <sudharsh> UncleD....u need to enable mysqld at startup
[01:01] <Battlestar> and it's really starting to get annoying at 1 in the morning
[01:01] <Battlestar> *3 hours^
[01:02] <chtamina> thanks ng
[01:02] <Battlestar> i really need to know where to enter this or i'm going to soon get to the point of chucking y computer and ubuntu disk out the window
[01:03] <pappan> Battlestar: what are you trying to achieve with that parameter
[01:03] <Battlestar> trying to adjust the screen refresh rate and resultion
[01:03] <sudharsh> Battlestar......Waht problem are you havin exaxctly
[01:03] <mika0800> I think my next task is to shutdown the Ubuntu-PC and add more RAM (only have 64 M) since I plan to Install Borland Kylix3.... (that's why I want Hoary with it's 2.6.10 kernel, not 2.6.12)
[01:03] <Battlestar> curently when i boot my laptop the screen it out of proportion and generally stuffed
[01:04] <sudharsh> try > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <Battlestar> i can't even navigate the login screen in this state
[01:04] <Battlestar> i can barely manage to hit the shut down button
[01:04] <ccooke> Battlestar: does the text-mode side work?
[01:04] <sudharsh> Battlestar try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:04] <Battlestar> plenty of people are giving me commands to use...
[01:04] <Battlestar> but where do i enter them?!
[01:05] <Battlestar> i'm jst utterly confused
[01:05] <Hobbsee> Battlestar: the terminal
[01:05] <Battlestar> ok how do i open the terminal
[01:05] <sudharsh> ok fire up a virtual console 'ctrl+alt+f1'
[01:05] <Battlestar> what's the hotkey
[01:05] <sudharsh> ok fire up a virtual console 'ctrl+alt+f1'
[01:05] <UncleD> Which rc.* directories are iin charge of "bootup" and which are for "shut down?"
[01:05] <irvin> Battlestar, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:05] <Hobbsee> Battlestar: unless someone says otherwise, all commands are to be used in a terminal
[01:05] <Battlestar> oh hey that worked...
[01:05] <mika0800> Battlestar: or use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a command screen ... and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to GUI !!!
[01:05] <sudharsh> Battlestar try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:05] <Battlestar> ctrl-alt-F1
[01:06] <sudharsh> remember ctrl+alt+f7 back again
[01:06] <coz> hello all
[01:06] <sudharsh> i think we lost him
[01:06] <UncleD> sudharsh: Which rc*.d directories are iin charge of "bootup" and which are for "shut down?"
[01:06] <Battlestar> yay finally got logged in
[01:06] <coz> anyof you familiar with flumotion?
[01:06] <mika0800> Ctrl-Alt-F1 may work with some systems.... but some seem to leave it blocked while GUI is running... that's why I suggest Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead
[01:06] <sudharsh> UncleD....sorry i dunno
[01:07] <Battlestar> it says usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[01:07] <sudharsh> try the readme file in the tarball
[01:07] <sudharsh> wait  while i find out
[01:07] <mika0800> Battlestar: put sudo in front of it !
[01:08] <Battlestar> ok as you can tell i'm a linux n00b...
[01:08] <Battlestar> lol
[01:09] <sobersabre> hi. I have both libdb4.2 and libdb4.3 in my breezy. I want all the programs to use 4.3 is this possible ?
[01:09] <Battlestar> ok this seems to be working...
[01:10] <dell500> !dmix
[01:10] <ubotu> from memory, dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:11] <coz> anyone knwo about flumotion???
[01:11] <deanm> Hi all. New to ubuntu,frizzled my graphics card replaced but how do I setup X to new card?
[01:11] <coz> http://users.on.net/~linux.au/bravery.jpg
[01:12] <lowman62> g'mornin room
[01:12] <coz> lowman63 morning to you
[01:12] <sudharsh> deanmthis command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:12] <coz> do you know anything about flumotion
[01:12] <sobersabre> coz, liked that :)
[01:12] <coz> cool pic
[01:13] <lowman62> coz: sorry! honestly have never heard of it
[01:13] <coz> ok
[01:13] <sobersabre> looks more like "hey, bear!! you asked me to wake you uuuup :) well, wake uuuuup!!!"
[01:13] <deanm> thanks sudharsh, I'll go and resurect it now.
[01:14] <lowman62> ya that would be a pretty brave thing to do :P
[01:15] <coz> pic wording courtesy of quail_linux
[01:16] <coz> OK guys anyonone! know about flumotion???
[01:16] <sudharsh> whats dat
[01:16] <coz> streamer server
[01:16] <sudharsh> movement of bied flu
[01:16] <coz> streaming
[01:17] <lowman62> is it flomotion or flumotion?
[01:17] <coz> hey quail_linux welcome
[01:17] <flo> How can i run Gaim Internet Messenger????
[01:17] <sudharsh> UncleD....what mysql are u usin
[01:17] <Battlestar> ok with the xserv reconfiguration i did should that immediately fix things?
[01:17] <flo> Im a lunux noob
[01:17] <pappan> flo: it will be in the Internet menu
[01:17] <Battlestar> or do i have to reboot?
[01:17] <sudharsh> flo: Applications > Internet > Gaim
[01:18] <flo> i know
[01:18] <sudharsh> well...
[01:18] <Belboz99> hey, I'm having a problem with K3B burning DVD's.  The writing speed is too slow and they are failing verification.  Any ideas?
[01:18] <sudharsh> reboot
[01:18] <coz> Belbox99 uninstall K3b and install gnomebaker
[01:18] <sudharsh> BelBoz99: enable DMA , run k3b as sudo
[01:19] <lowman62> Belboz99: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn
[01:19] <Belboz99> thanks guys!
[01:19] <coz> enabling dma does help
[01:20] <pappan> flo what problem are you facing then
[01:21] <sudharsh> UncleD....what mysql are u usin...did u d/l from apt
[01:21] <sudharsh> or from the mysql website
[01:21] <sobersabre> what is the difference between multiverse and universe ?
[01:22] <mjr> sobersabre, universe is free stuff, multiverse generally more or less proprietary or dependent on such
[01:22] <s_spiff> hello
[01:22] <flo> when i add a new account and try to connect he shows me that im not connected
[01:22] <sobersabre> mjr, like contrib and non-free in debian ?
[01:23] <sudharsh> flo : in detail plz
[01:23] <s_spiff> mjr : means that u don't gett he source..or you pay for it?
[01:23] <flo> plz? i come from germany
[01:23] <sudharsh> s_spiff : u dont pay forn anything whilest usin apt
[01:24] <s_spiff> ok, so means multiverse stuff , u don't get the source?
[01:24] <sobersabre> bdb q: does ubuntu use both libdb4.3 and libdb4.2 ?
[01:24] <sudharsh> oh sorry...flo which protocol r u usin
[01:24] <mjr> s_spiff, you might get the source (but sometimes not); you just aren't at liberty to do some things with it
[01:25] <s_spiff> achha ok.
[01:25] <mjr> sobersabre, like, yes
[01:25] <flo> aim/icq
[01:25] <Battlestar> ok i've tried reconfixuring xserv but my video is still screwed, can anyone help?
[01:25] <nalioth> !de
[01:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:25] <Battlestar> i'm on an iBook G3 laptop
[01:25] <Battlestar> with like a 12" LCd screen
[01:25] <sudharsh> can u login through the other protocols
[01:26] <lowman62> flo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto?highlight=%28gaim%29  it is in the wiki
[01:26] <Battlestar> the screen is just out of proportion, place, and overlapping itself
[01:26] <Battlestar> it's extremely weird
[01:26] <sudharsh> Battlestar,,,,do a 'cat /etc/xorg.conf'
[01:26] <Battlestar> ?
[01:26] <Belboz99> Hey, how would I enable DMA for an SATA HD?
[01:26] <Battlestar> i'm a linux n00b, please speak to me like one
[01:27] <sudharsh> k mate
[01:27] <Battlestar> so just type that in the terminal
[01:27] <Battlestar> ?
[01:27] <Belboz99> would it be "sdparm"?
[01:27] <serengeti> mika0800: i've to go now, if I find out something new I'll share :)
[01:27] <sudharsh> Battlestar..tell us the output pf 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:28] <mjr> Belboz99, you shouldn't really have to (but if your drive really isn't communicating with DMA, I don't know how to fix that)
[01:28] <lowman62> Belboz99: are you using a ThinkPad?
[01:28] <Battlestar> it doesn't exist
[01:28] <flo> ok thanks i try it
[01:28] <nalioth> Battlestar: have you been to this page? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:28] <Battlestar> you mean /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[01:28] <nalioth> Battlestar: those ibooks are usually bulletproof in their settings
[01:29] <sudharsh> its X11 not x11]
[01:29] <sudharsh> *x11
[01:29] <Ng> Belboz99: an SATA disk ought to have DMA enabled already
[01:29] <sudharsh> remember linux is case sesitive
[01:29] <Belboz99> mjr, lowman62, thanks, I just read that SATA has DMA already enabled
[01:29] <lowman62> Belboz99: i was just gonna say that LOL :P
[01:30] <lowman62> Belboz99: i found this just the same ...http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux
[01:30] <sudharsh> Battlestar whatcha get
[01:31] <midwinter> how come even when you purge delete apps they still leave all their crap everywhere like in .gconf :\
[01:31] <Battlestar> hmmm not much more luck yet
[01:31] <Battlestar> this thing's still being as stubborn as ever
[01:31] <Battlestar> it's almost got me in tears here
[01:31] <Belboz99> Hey, the FIFO buffer isn't showing any info
[01:31] <sudharsh> Battlestar...cmon mate
[01:31] <lowman62> midwinter: i know what you mean :P
[01:31] <sudharsh> do a 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:31] <Belboz99> Niether is the Device Buffer :(
[01:32] <sudharsh> its not x11....its X11
[01:32] <Belboz99> at least I got the DVD to burn at 3x
[01:32] <Battlestar> hmm well as far as i can tell the command worked
[01:32] <lowman62> oi 3x...eww that is slow
[01:33] <theine> Hi, does anybody know where NetworkManager stores information (for instance the essid's of networks one previously connected to)?
[01:33] <Battlestar> but it didn't spit anything out in the terminal
[01:33] <Battlestar> and it hasn't fixed my problem
[01:33] <Ng> midwinter: a --purge removes system config files but never user configs, there is no way of removing a package and having it remove user configs too
[01:33] <sudharsh> Battlestar u should have got some output
[01:33] <sudharsh> xorg.conf is a file
[01:34] <flo> ok, i have it. I didnt know that i need a existing account to log in!!!!
[01:34] <lowman62> Ng: isn't there a script that will do that tho?
[01:34] <midwinter> Ng, hmm ok..
[01:34] <sudharsh> Battlestar copy and paste the command u entered,,
[01:34] <Ng> lowman62: nope
[01:34] <Battlestar> can't lol
[01:35] <lowman62> Ng: would be nice if there was one tho...hmm! :P
[01:35] <Battlestar> but i'll try and accurately read ti into here
[01:35] <melonipoika> hi all, can anyone help me configuring an ad-hoc wireless network? i get the error "connect: network is unreachable" when trying to make a ping tot he other pc...
[01:35] <Ng> midwinter: when I'm testing an application I use a test user in the nested login feature, then I can just vape its entire home directory
[01:35] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone know why my FIFO Buffer and Device Buffer show no info in K3B?
[01:35] <sudharsh> did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' work
[01:35] <Ng> lowman62: I'm not sure that it would and it'd be really quite complex because it would need to know about every config file that could be produced by every package
[01:35] <Battlestar> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[01:35] <Battlestar> that's the whole command
[01:36] <jawshoewah> I am toying with an idea...is it possible to test a tar.gz for compatibility before unpacking?
[01:36] <sudharsh> alrite u r backing up the file
[01:36] <midwinter> Ng, okay i'll look into that maybe, thanks
[01:36] <sudharsh> now check the contents of xorg.conf
[01:36] <Ng> jawshoewah: you could use "tar tzf foo.tgz" - that'll list the files in the tarball if it's valid
[01:36] <sudharsh> and see for abnormalities
[01:36] <lowman62> Ng: that is true...but like midwinter said it is irritating that all that does not get cleaned up when you remove an app
[01:37] <alekandr> Anyone got steam to work on breezy?
[01:37] <CosminG> how can I use the webcam on ubuntu???????
[01:37] <melonipoika> does anyone know that can be wrong when i get the error "network is unreachable"? i have no idea where to look for that...
[01:37] <Battlestar> ok so how do i check the file for abnormalities
[01:37] <Ng> alekandr: yes, but I used cedega
[01:37] <CosminG> how can I use the webcam on ubuntu???????
[01:37] <jawshoewah> ng: will that actually test compatibility with a particualr system?
[01:37] <Belboz99> alekander, you mean Steam from Valve?
[01:37] <sudharsh> Battlestar is ur video card and all getting detected correctly
[01:38] <Ng> jawshoewah: only in that if tar doesn't understand the file it will fail to list them, it's not actually a test operation though
[01:38] <alekandr> Ng: does it run well?
[01:38] <sudharsh> CosminG google spca5xx and 'apt-get install camorama'
[01:38] <alekandr> Belboz99: yeah :]
[01:38] <Ng> alekandr: it runs well enough to play, but it's not as fast or pretty as running in windows. it's enough for me to get my fill of killing terrorists though ;)
[01:38] <CosminG> sudharsh thanks
[01:39] <alekandr> oh man
[01:39] <alekandr> i need to play cs:s :)
[01:39] <UncleD> If im sshd into my machine, is there a reason why I would suddenly get disconnected from the box (reconnecting no problem) ?
[01:39] <sudharsh> alekandr: subscribe for cedega
[01:39] <Belboz99> alekandr, I got it to run.  HL2 didn't have the best FPS though.  AA didn't work, and I still haven't figured out how to get my resolution up to 1152x864 @75hz.
[01:39] <alekandr> well its either wine, or cedega steam and cs:s for a windows server 03 vmware
[01:39] <Ng> UncleD: does it disconnect after a period of inactivity? If so it's a router cutting an idle connection (which ssh can work around)
[01:39] <alekandr> or
[01:39] <ccc_> Belboz99: there is a native linux version for AA
[01:40] <Belboz99> ccc_ can you point me in the right direction?
[01:40] <Ng> alekandr: vmware is useless for games like cs:s
[01:40] <Battlestar> hmm well as far as i can tell it's being detected sorrectly
[01:40] <Battlestar> *correctly
[01:40] <UncleD> Ng: No, it was right after I ran a ./configure script
[01:40] <UncleD> suddenly i got d/c'd
[01:40] <alekandr> :(
[01:40] <sudharsh> ok mate give me the output in pvt
[01:40] <Battlestar> detects it as a ATI mobility M3 or something
[01:40] <ccc_> Belboz99: google for their homepage, it's available there
[01:40] <alekandr> ok, cedega it is
[01:40] <UncleD> Ng: How can I workaround via ssh the inactivity problem though, I have that too.
[01:40] <sudharsh> alekandr: cedega aint free
[01:40] <Battlestar> the problem is i don't know what the vsyc ranges and stuf are for the lcd screen
[01:40] <alekandr> I know :]
[01:41] <sudharsh> meen either....i dont use lcd...
[01:41] <sudharsh> did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' work
[01:41] <Ng> UncleD: edit ~/.ssh/config and put two lines at the top, the first with "Host *" on and the second with "ServerAliveInterval 60" - that will make it send a keepalive packet every minute
[01:41] <sudharsh> i mean reconfigure X
[01:42] <Belboz99> ccc_ thanks.  Oddly enough I just rememberd I have nvidia-settings.  In nvidia-settings I was able to increase the AA and AF :)
[01:42] <Krishnautix> can someone help me mount a master hdd?
[01:42] <Battlestar> yes well this is a 12" lcd screen on a lapto
[01:42] <UncleD> Ng.. I don't seem to have an .ssh/config
[01:42] <Battlestar> and atm it's quite messy
[01:42] <Ng> UncleD: that's fine, it's not there by default, so create it :)
[01:43] <ccc_> Belboz99: oh, i thought you meant AA = america's army :O
[01:43] <Belboz99> anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to run on 1152x864 res @ 75Hz
[01:43] <Belboz99> ccc_ lol :)
[01:43] <ccc_> :)
[01:43] <Bjelleklang> ubuntu/kubuntu: is the only difference gnome/kde?
[01:43] <nalioth> Bjelleklang: pretty much, yes. :)
[01:43] <Krishnautix> hey why does it say my nicks already taken?
[01:43] <Rawplayer> good job sherlock
[01:43] <Belboz99> I have xorg configured properly AFAIK, but Ubuntu just won't let me change the res
[01:43] <Krishnautix>  I had registered it...
[01:44] <nalioth> Krishnautix: /msg nickserv help ghost
[01:44] <Krishnautix>  and I can see myself online ..s_spiff! when I'm online via Krishnautix!
[01:45] <UncleD> Ng: is that like some kind of NOOP?
[01:45] <Battlestar> oh i'm so frustrated right now...
[01:45] <Battlestar> i wish i'd never formatted OSX off my laptop
[01:45] <Krishnautix> it gives an error that no channel joined, nalioth .
[01:45] <Ng> UncleD: yup
[01:45] <UncleD> Ng: I'm adding that to my host machine or the remote server I connect too?
[01:45] <Krishnautix>  infact eevn while registering I had the same error
[01:45] <Ng> UncleD: on your host machine
[01:45] <sudharsh> Battlestar dont giv up hope jus yet
[01:45] <Ng> UncleD: the "Host *" means it'll then apply to any remote server you connect to from that machine
[01:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Krishnautix about ghost
[01:46] <alvien> yhyg
[01:47] <sudharsh> Battlestar...jus tell me did  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  work or not
[01:47] <Battlestar> no
[01:47] <Krishnautix> brb
[01:47] <NeF> Hey howzit
[01:47] <sudharsh> what error did u get
[01:47] <Battlestar> no error
[01:47] <sudharsh> wait a sec...did u select the server install
[01:47] <Battlestar> everything should be fine but my screen just looks crazy
[01:47] <NeF> I installed ubuntu and when it loads the Grub it gives an "error 18"
[01:47] <Battlestar> server install?
[01:48] <Krishnautix> last time apparently my nick wasn't registered
[01:48] <Krishnautix>  so now i cant kill that ghost..
[01:48] <Krishnautix>  what to do?
[01:48] <sudharsh> ok Battlestar...plz do this command ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:49] <nalioth> Krishnautix: you are stuck if you havent registered your nick, and someone else is using it
[01:49] <sudharsh> mate..did ur installtion go fine or did it complain bout mismathcin resolutions
[01:49] <NeF> who me?
[01:50] <sudharsh> guyz i jus compiled the 2.6.25 kernel but when i boot through it the usplash is all messed up
[01:50] <Battlestar> ok entered the reconfiguration again
[01:50] <misiek> hi there , i have a problem installing ubuntu
[01:50] <sudharsh> *oops 2.6.15
[01:50] <sudharsh> k man tell me whats the 1st screen
[01:50] <sudharsh> i'll go along with ya
[01:50] <NeF> i get an error 18 after installation
[01:50] <Battlestar> title is configuring xserver-xorg
[01:51] <Battlestar> just has the opton for autodectecting video card
[01:51] <concept10> Is it my install, or is Firefox 1.5 full of bugs and memory leaks?
[01:51] <Battlestar> i usually select yes
[01:51] <sudharsh> now dont attempt to detect automatically
[01:51] <Battlestar> k
[01:51] <misiek> first of all when the installer reaches the user and password cration  it seems to go in a never ending loop
[01:51] <sudharsh> tell me whatcha u getting
[01:52] <sudharsh> u'll get the 'Select the desired X-server..
[01:52] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell me it is at all possible to play dvds using totem-gstreamer by installing varioud gstreamer plugins in breezy?
[01:52] <misiek> its asking me on and on again to type the new user name and password
[01:52] <s_spiff> finally!
[01:53] <sudharsh> onkarshinde: install totem-xine
[01:53] <Battlestar> ok nowit wants me to select the appropriate dirver
[01:53] <s_spiff> hey I want to install new icon set..how do i do it?
[01:53] <sudharsh> bingo...what video card do u hav
[01:53] <sakkew> ubuntu installation should have a big warning message about risks in installing grub. i wonder how many installations it has messed up.
[01:53] <nalioth> onkarshinde: of course it is
[01:53] <onkarshinde> sudharsh: I already know that. I was just wondering why gstreamer lacks the functionality
[01:53] <Battlestar> ati, ships, fbdev, glint, imstt, mga, nv, riva128, s3, etc.
[01:53] <Battlestar> hmmm
[01:53] <s_spiff> icon themes it called on gnome-look.org
[01:53] <Battlestar> well i have no idea
[01:53] <sudharsh> k now select vesa
[01:53] <onkarshinde> nalioth: and which plugins would you suggest in addition to default?
[01:54] <Battlestar> although from memory i think it's an ati of some sort
[01:54] <lordasbach> *tada*
[01:54] <sudharsh> no dont do an ati...select vesa
[01:54] <Battlestar> there is no vesa
[01:54] <Davey`> is there some configuration for the "locate" command to tell it which folders to index?
[01:54] <onkarshinde> Battlestar: do a 'lspci' in console to find out
[01:54] <sudharsh> scroll down
[01:54] <sudharsh> there should be vesa
[01:55] <Battlestar> there is no scolling
[01:55] <Battlestar> the last one on the list is VGA
[01:55] <sudharsh> push the 'down arrow'
[01:55] <Battlestar> that's the only v on the list
[01:55] <s_spiff> can some one help me with installing new icon themes?
[01:55] <sudharsh> k man seems u r havin a Apple computer
[01:55] <nalioth> onkarshinde: ask ubotu about dvd. if totem won't play dvd's, very likely it is looking at the wrong mount point
[01:55] <sudharsh> select vga
[01:55] <onkarshinde> !dvd
[01:56] <Battlestar> k
[01:56] <Battlestar> now it wans me to input an identifier
[01:56] <Battlestar> it already has a ATI card name in there
[01:56] <Battlestar> Rage mobility M3
[01:56] <s_spiff> ! installing icon themes
[01:56] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff
[01:56] <misiek> anyone can help me with the new user creation during install problem?
[01:56] <sudharsh> cool...select ok
[01:56] <onkarshinde> nalioth: I can't play dvds very well with totem-gstreamer, i can play them with totem-xine. How to identify if my dvd is encrypted?
[01:56] <misiek> oh and i have a problem with X too
[01:56] <sudharsh> s_spiff u must extract the icon themes in .icons
[01:57] <onkarshinde> misiek: what is problem?
[01:57] <s_spiff> ok.
[01:57] <nalioth> onkarshinde: they all are, have you installed libdvdcss and libdvdread?
[01:57] <s_spiff>  thanks
[01:57] <onkarshinde> nalioth: yes, I have
[01:57] <Battlestar> ok now it is goin on abotu bus entry
[01:57] <nalioth> onkarshinde: then i'm unsure why one won't play but the other will
[01:57] <sudharsh> select ok
[01:57] <misiek>  when the installer reaches the user and password cration  it seems to go in a never ending loop
[01:57] <Battlestar> but says it's not applicable if you only have one video card
[01:57] <misiek> asking for new user on and on
[01:58] <onkarshinde> misiek: can you explain more?
[01:58] <sudharsh> nvr mind,....jus proceed
[01:58] <Battlestar> ok default bus in CPI:0:16:0
[01:58] <onkarshinde> Battlestar: use lspci command which card
[01:58] <Battlestar> i can't onkarshinde, doing recondfig atm
[01:58] <onkarshinde> !gstreamer
[01:58] <ubotu> onkarshinde: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:59] <s_spiff> sudharsh, Once i extract them there, then what?
[01:59] <misiek> when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on
[01:59] <s_spiff> sorry, I'm a noob to this..
[01:59] <sudharsh> select the theme from System > Preferences > theme
[01:59] <Battlestar> ok next is dedicated memory fromt eh system memory
[01:59] <misiek> i can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then im whithout a user
[01:59] <onkarshinde> Battlestar: are you not in GUI? Then use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to open another text console
[01:59] <Battlestar> not appliccable cause my card has a whole 4MB of memory or something
[02:00] <sudharsh> k then ju press enter
[02:00] <nalioth> Battlestar: may i ask just what ibook you have? the exact model?
[02:00] <Battlestar> i don't know the exact model ibook
[02:00] <Battlestar> it's like 5 years off
[02:00] <Battlestar> 233MHz
[02:00] <Battlestar> *old
[02:00] <onkarshinde> Is rhythmbox not instaled by default in breezy? Because when I upgraded from hoary to breezy then rhythmbox wasn't upgraded.
[02:00] <Battlestar> 192MB SDRAM
[02:01] <Battlestar> and yea the VGA controller is a ATI Rage mobility M3
[02:01] <sudharsh> vow...Battlestar what r u gettin now
[02:01] <misiek>  when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on
[02:01] <misiek> i can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then im whithout a user
[02:01] <Battlestar> kernel frambuffer option
[02:02] <Battlestar> default is yes
[02:02] <sudharsh> enable the thing
[02:02] <Battlestar> then keyboard layout
[02:02] <jessy> #zlatograd
[02:02] <Battlestar> select no to canel redetect?
[02:02] <Battlestar> \*cancel
[02:02] <sudharsh> Battlestar autodetect the keyboard layout
[02:02] <Battlestar> k
[02:03] <Battlestar> eneterd keyboard as "us"
[02:03] <jawshoewah> I installed beep last night and in no time was enjoying listening to my m4a files while playing net panzer...I went to sleep and when I awoke went to start beep then xmms i click nothing happens...any comments?
[02:03] <sudharsh> the followin screens should be self explainatory
[02:03] <Battlestar> XKB rule set...
[02:03] <seishi> what can i do to put a perl script on boot?
[02:03] <Battlestar> default is xorg
[02:03] <sudharsh> follow the default
[02:04] <Battlestar> ok next is keyboard model
[02:04] <Battlestar> default is pc104
[02:04] <seishi> =p
[02:04] <sudharsh> tell me when u get to the select xorg modules
[02:04] <NeF> can some1 help me with my istallation with ubuntu?
[02:04] <Battlestar> ok
[02:04] <Battlestar> flicking thru keyboard and mouse stuff
[02:05] <Battlestar> ok up to xorg modules now
[02:05] <Battlestar> what do i do /me runs around in circles
[02:05] <onkarshinde> seishi: edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add 'perl /path/to/yourscript.pl' to it
[02:05] <seishi> thanks
[02:05] <sudharsh> select ok
[02:06] <onkarshinde> NeF: what is problem
[02:06] <Battlestar> write default files section to configuration files?
[02:06] <NeF> i installed it, it then asks me to reboot and awsners some questions on my pc but b4 it gets there my pc stops at the Grub loading and gives an "error 18"
[02:06] <sudharsh> yup
[02:06] <Battlestar> write default DRI section to configuration file?
[02:06] <sudharsh> ypu
[02:06] <sudharsh> *yup
[02:07] <Battlestar> monitor autodetect?
[02:07] <onkarshinde> NeF: is there any explanation for error? What are you trying to install on? Is it external drive?
[02:07] <s_spiff> someone can help me with mounting a master hdd?
[02:07] <sudharsh> ok mate this may get dirty...dont autodetect
[02:07] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: I suppose I can
[02:07] <Battlestar> enter identifier
[02:07] <s_spiff> i have a master hdd, 120 gb...6 partitions
[02:07] <s_spiff>  all fat 32
[02:07] <Battlestar> i'm jst using "generic monitor
[02:08] <sudharsh> hmm.....
[02:08] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: so what exactly do you want to do?
[02:08] <sudharsh> well select that for now
[02:08] <s_spiff>  and i wanna mount them at boot up ..so that i can read/write and execute the stuff on those partitions
[02:08] <Battlestar> ok video modes?
[02:08] <NeF> onkarshinde: trying to install it on a 30gig hdd, master settings
[02:08] <Battlestar> 1024x768 and down are all selected
[02:08] <lowman62> NeF: error 18 means that your slected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by the BIOS
[02:08] <sudharsh> k..whats the ur screen size
[02:08] <Battlestar> 12"
[02:09] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: Is it master or slave?
[02:09] <sudharsh> what resolution did u use in OSX
[02:09] <onkarshinde> !ntfs
[02:09] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[02:09] <NeF> lowman62: what must i do then
[02:09] <s_spiff> i'm online slave right now... the 120 is a master
[02:09] <s_spiff>  i'm botted via 80 ..
[02:09] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: may be this will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:09] <lowman62> in short it means that the BIOS is unable to start execution of the kernel because the kernel is not located withiin a block that it can access
[02:09] <Battlestar> 800x600 pretty sure
[02:10] <s_spiff>  in the bio, i changed the second boot device to the 80 gb hdd.
[02:10] <NeF> o
[02:10] <s_spiff> ok
[02:10] <Battlestar> tried that already but didn't make a difference
[02:10] <sudharsh> k then check if its enabled
[02:10] <Battlestar> only enable 640x480?
[02:10] <onkarshinde> NeF: did you do anything weird between the installation and rebbot?
[02:10] <lowman62> NeF: you can find the solution to this in this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection
[02:10] <sudharsh> i didnt get you....is only 640x480 enabled?
[02:11] <Battlestar> no 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 are all enabled
[02:11] <NeF> onkarshinde: no
[02:11] <lowman62> looks to me like you need to partition your drive into two
[02:11] <Battlestar> do you want me to disable the last 2
[02:11] <NeF> lowman62: ta
[02:11] <s_spiff> hey i just click on the link u gave onkarshinde , and the [ since i've installed KDE just yesterday]  the link opened in Konkueror!
[02:11] <lowman62> NeF: yw :)
[02:11] <s_spiff>  how to i sepearte these two damn envionments!!!!
[02:11] <sudharsh> hmm...finish the configuration
[02:11] <jorge_> algun espaol por ahi?
[02:11] <Battlestar> with or without disabling the two higher resultions?
[02:12] <sudharsh> no dont disable anything
[02:12] <Battlestar> k
[02:12] <ompaul> !es
[02:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:12] <sudharsh> as of now
[02:12] <Battlestar> ok next is monitor characteristics
[02:12] <jawshoewah> wouls using two sound sources simultaneously cause xmms and beep to uninstall or not work by themselves?
[02:12] <Battlestar> simple medium or advanced?
[02:12] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: you can set preffered browser in System->Preferences->Prefered Applications
[02:12] <sudharsh> do it simple
[02:13] <Battlestar> lol it has 17 inch monitor selected by default
[02:13] <Battlestar> the lowest it goes it "up to 14""
[02:13] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:13] <lowman62> hello
[02:13] <sudharsh> vow...then i guess we zeroed into the problem
[02:13] <lapducky> jawshoewah, a rootkit can be used to 'mysteriously' uninstall things, but short of that -- no things do not uninstall themselves -- ever.
[02:13] <sudharsh> select the lowest res then
[02:13] <gypsymauro> I can't install emacs-snapshot on breezy it says there is a problem of depencencies on emacs-snapshot-bin-common any hint?
[02:13] <Battlestar> don't think so
[02:13] <NeF> lowman62 ta :D
[02:14] <Battlestar> i selected the lowest res last time lol
[02:14] <s_spiff> onkarshinde, thanks you very much! it worked!
[02:14] <Battlestar> but sure i'll try it again
[02:14] <NeF> onkarshinde thanx sa well :D
[02:14] <NeF> as*
[02:14] <lowman62> NeF: no prob had the same prob on the weekend that solved it for me
[02:14] <sudharsh> well u selected vesa this time...remeber
[02:14] <NeF> hehe
[02:14] <NeF> cheers :D
[02:14] <Battlestar> ok next is write sync ranges to configuration file?
[02:14] <lowman62> cheers
[02:14] <sudharsh> okie dokie
[02:15] <Battlestar> k
[02:15] <Battlestar> colour depth...
[02:15] <Battlestar> 24 bit?
[02:15] <jawshoewah> lapducky: it's strange both bleep and xmms worked flawlessy last night and today i click on the application menu and nothing happens
[02:15] <sudharsh> geez...did OSX support 24 bit?...forgive me mate
[02:15] <Battlestar> lol
[02:15] <Battlestar> it supported 32 bit
[02:16] <lowman62> jawshoewah: do you have any sound at all on your computer?
[02:16] <Battlestar> 24 is selected by feault anyway
[02:16] <sudharsh> did u know 24 n 32 are the same except for the additional alpha channels
[02:16] <Battlestar> yes it says that here
[02:16] <sudharsh> go ahead and select the the 24 bit thingy
[02:16] <Battlestar> ok configuration overwirtten
[02:16] <Battlestar> it should be done
[02:17] <lowman62> jawshoewah: when you boot up do you hear sound?
[02:17] <sudharsh> reboot....
[02:17] <Ng> you generally can't get more than 2^24 colours, but using 32bit instead of 24bit means a) you get some alpha stuff, b) word boundaries line up far better which makes memory access faster
[02:17] <Battlestar> k
[02:17] <Battlestar> how do i reboot in console?
[02:17] <sudharsh> is everythin done
[02:17] <Battlestar> yea
[02:17] <lowman62> rebbot
[02:17] <Battlestar> should be
[02:17] <lowman62> reboot
[02:17] <Fanskapet> Battlestar: sudo -s
[02:17] <lowman62> :P
[02:17] <sudharsh> sudo init 6
[02:17] <jawshoewah> yes sound works fine
[02:17] <Fanskapet> and then reboot
[02:17] <redguy|work> shutdown -r now
[02:17] <nalioth> Battlestar: sudo shutdown -r now
[02:18] <lapducky> jawshoewah, there are several things that can go wrong besides uninstallation.  I think you're barking up the correct tree when looking at the sound server (just confused about *how* it can break).
[02:18] <Fanskapet> or
[02:18] <AIV> does someone know of internet radio that I could play using my ubuntu?
[02:18] <Fanskapet> su -c reboot
[02:18] <Fanskapet> :)
[02:18] <nalioth> AIV: shoutcast.com
[02:18] <Battlestar> ok restarting
[02:18] <Battlestar> hpefully this fixes it
[02:18] <redguy|work> Fanskapet: you need to have a root account enabled to do that
[02:18] <onkarshinde> AIV: install streamtuner and you will have lots of stations
[02:18] <AIV> nalioth, thanks
[02:19] <Battlestar> if it doesn't i'm going to bed and gonna deal with it tomorow
[02:19] <lapducky> jawshoewah, crimsun is the one to ask about weird sound issues.
[02:19] <jawshoewah> for example rythmbox still plays but when called xmms and beep dont respond...so alsa?
[02:19] <sudharsh> k mate...jus tell me if it does
[02:19] <Friar> whats the chmod command to make something executable?
[02:19] <Battlestar> k
[02:19] <jawshoewah> possibly?
[02:19] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: try to select different plugin in beep and xmms, preferably alsa
[02:19] <AIV> onkarshinde, thanks
[02:20] <lowman62> Friar: yes you can us chmod to change permissions to make something executable or not
[02:20] <lapducky> jawshoewah, have you checked all the 'silly' things that may have gone wrong.  I.e. pathname and executeable are correct, as well as file permissions?
[02:20] <onkarshinde> Friar: chmod 755 filename
[02:20] <lowman62> sudo chmod +x  filename
[02:20] <jawshoewah> errrr I will attempt ..i actueally know not where to look for those settings in the modules
[02:21] <Battlestar> uh oh
[02:21] <Battlestar> blue screen on startup
[02:21] <Battlestar> i didn't think that was possible in linux :P
[02:21] <lowman62> LOL
[02:21] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: for xmms Ctrl+P is shortcut for preferences, go to output plugins
[02:21] <sudharsh> damn....jus a blue screen
[02:21] <Friar> hhas anyone managed to get Kbasic installed?
[02:21] <sudharsh> nothin else???
[02:22] <Battlestar> "faield to start X server"
[02:22] <Battlestar> "it is likely that it is not set up correctly"
[02:22] <sudharsh> looks like u hav to go through the configuration again
[02:22] <jawshoewah> xmms wont launch though
[02:22] <Battlestar> "would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem?"
[02:22] <lowman62> Friar: I used a rpm and alien it into a deb package and installed it
[02:22] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: try to launch from console to see if there is any error
[02:23] <sudharsh> dont send me to hell.......jus select ati
[02:23] <Friar> nm i think i found a howto on the forums
[02:23] <Battlestar> lol
[02:23] <sudharsh> and go through the process once again
[02:23] <jawshoewah> oh that trick works for more than just firefox...i should experiment more..
[02:23] <Battlestar> do i want to view the Xserver output?
[02:23] <Battlestar> no?
[02:23] <sudharsh> not needed...ur card is the culprit
[02:24] <sudharsh> i suppose u'll be led into a configuration screen
[02:24] <allison_1984> why am I not able to configure my ethernet connection ? some help....
[02:25] <jawshoewah> at $ xmms nothing happens
[02:25] <jawshoewah> blinking cursor no gui
[02:25] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: ho did you install xmms and beep?
[02:25] <jawshoewah> in gui applications>ADD APlications
[02:26] <Battlestar> ok i'mgoing back thru the config
[02:26] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: And have you played it at least once after installation?
[02:26] <lapducky> Anyone -- I've just install the binary GL (accelerated) drivers for Nvidia using Synaptic and the package pulled in a 386 kernel image.  I already have the 686 image of that version installed.  Why is this?  When I boot the machine will it change the default kernel in GRUB?  (If not, what good is it doing on my machine?)
[02:26] <Friar> is alien easy to use?
[02:26] <lowman62> jawshoewah: try /usr/bin/xmms & at console and see if that opens it up
[02:26] <sudharsh> Friar: damn easy..
[02:26] <jawshoewah> yes the first time i used beep was last night
[02:26] <jawshoewah> i used it while playing netpanzer
[02:26] <Battlestar> back up to xserver modules
[02:26] <Battlestar> so far
[02:26] <onkarshinde> lapducky: you pulled wrong version of glx driver. You should have pulled one for 686 kernel
[02:27] <deFrysk> Friar, easy to use though the created packages do not always work properly so make sure if there is a .deb available befor you use it
[02:27] <jawshoewah> same responce with /usr/bin/xmms
[02:28] <lowman62> jawshoewah: what is the response please?
[02:28] <sudharsh> ok Battlestar..when u come to seleceting ur video dirver select ati
[02:28] <jawshoewah> two sounds sources one audio card
[02:28] <Battlestar> oh and a note: it says in configuring screen parameters that simple is not useable for LCD screens
[02:28] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: on console try 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[02:28] <Battlestar> yea already past there
[02:28] <jawshoewah> at the terminal i type the command it send cursor to next line a blinks
[02:28] <sudharsh> selected sti?
[02:28] <sudharsh> *ati?
[02:28] <Battlestar> yep
[02:28] <Battlestar> i'm up to monitor setings again
[02:29] <lowman62> jawshoewah: try ....  whereis xmms
[02:29] <Battlestar> so wanna try medium or advanced this time?
[02:29] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: no, first press Ctrl+C
[02:29] <sudharsh> k lets start with advanced
[02:29] <Battlestar> i have no idea what the refresh on this LCD panel is though
[02:29] <StyXman> hi all
[02:29] <Battlestar> says enter horizontal sync rage
[02:29] <Battlestar> already has 28-51 there
[02:29] <misiek> Okey lets sum up my problems with ubuntu installation:
[02:29] <misiek> 1. During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on.
[02:29] <misiek> I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.
[02:29] <misiek> 2.  It is prefilled with PCI:2:0:0 or something. I have an AGP ati radeon card. I dont remember this question installing debian on my laptop...
[02:29] <misiek> Now the driver: i tried autodetect (i think it choose vesa) as well as ati. And i end up with Xerror "cant find a screen" or something... I remember getting the same error on debian when i chose the wrong driver.
[02:30] <nalioth> ar misiek
[02:30] <lapducky> onkarshinde, I checked the repositories -- there is only one version (aside from the various flavours like -dev -dbg).  Did you actually look that up?
[02:30] <lapducky> =P
[02:30] <Battlestar> ok so am i going with what's already there?
[02:30] <sudharsh> k proceed
[02:30] <Munchkinguy> Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.
[02:30] <Munchkinguy> I went to the Network Connections setup program, but the only thing I could do was change the properties of existing connections.
[02:30] <lapducky> ANd, BTW, the other flavours all have the same dependencies?
[02:30] <Battlestar> then same for vertical
[02:30] <Munchkinguy> I couldnt press the add connection button because it wasnt there.
[02:30] <Battlestar> 43-60 already in there
[02:30] <sudharsh> vow....this is interesting u'll b
[02:31] <Munchkinguy> could somebody help?
[02:31] <jawshoewah> what is ctrl-c for?
[02:31] <StyXman> I'm fighting against network manager. it keeps reconfiguring my network to non-working values. and I can't seem to get rid of it. I already stoped hotplug-net and hotplug, killed it, but it's still there fsking my conf.
[02:31] <sudharsh> thats it try rebooting
[02:31] <onkarshinde> lapducky: can you tell me what was package name?
[02:31] <Battlestar> k rebooting now
[02:31] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6833
[02:32] <StyXman> Munchkinguy: yes, somebody could help. just make your question.
[02:32] <sudharsh> hang on..
[02:32] <Munchkinguy> I just stated my problem above
[02:32] <misiek> Okey lets sum up my problems with ubuntu installation:
[02:32] <misiek> 1. During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on.
[02:32] <misiek> I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.
[02:32] <misiek> 2.  It is prefilled with PCI:2:0:0 or something. I have an AGP ati radeon card. I dont remember this question installing debian on my laptop...
[02:32] <misiek> Now the driver: i tried autodetect (i think it choose vesa) as well as ati. And i end up with Xerror "cant find a screen" or something... I remember getting the same error on debian when i chose the wrong driver.
[02:33] <lowman62> jawshoewah: close synaptic first
[02:33] <nalioth> misiek: read the /topic please
[02:33] <StyXman> misiek: we read you the fisrt time, thanks
[02:33] <jawshoewah> says its already the newest version
[02:33] <Munchkinguy> My problem is that I'm trying to set up a PPPoE internet connection, but the "Add Connection" button has mysteriously disappeared
[02:34] <lowman62> jawshoewah: it is installed already
[02:34] <lowman62> yes you have the latest and greatest
[02:34] <jawshoewah> correct but it wont launch..neither will beep
[02:34] <lapducky> onkarshinde, nvidia-glx (I guess you didn't really consider my question the first time, heh-heh)
[02:34] <nalioth> misiek: we appreciate your efforts to help yourself, but pastebin that stuff and show folks the URL to the pastebin
[02:34] <Battlestar> i can't believe this
[02:34] <thegladiator> kubuntu
[02:34] <sudharsh> waht worked???
[02:34] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: so the problem lies at some other corner. I mean xmms is properly installed still it won't launch. Not a problem with xmms
[02:34] <Battlestar> it's still saying my x server isn't set up properly
[02:34] <lowman62> one sec jawshoewah am checking into something for you
[02:34] <jawshoewah> ty
[02:35] <lowman62> yw :)
[02:35] <Battlestar> hmmmm
[02:35] <sudharsh> k mate......plz bear with me
[02:35] <onkarshinde> lapducky: just wanted to confirm. I don't understand why it pulled a kernel. Anyways your default option won't change with installation of new kernel.
[02:35] <misiek> i dont undestand pastebin
[02:35] <sudharsh> do an autodetect this time
[02:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> misiek: pastebin.com
[02:36] <Munchkinguy> StyXman: Do you know how to fix my internet problem?
[02:36] <misiek> thanks
[02:36] <ompaul> misiek, it is a web page paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:36] <Battlestar> hold on i just tried reconfiguring it differently
[02:36] <nalioth> misiek: you copy that stuff you're pasting in here, into the blank space at paste.ubuntulinux.nl   Click "send" and bring us back the URL that comes up
[02:36] <Battlestar> see if this one works
[02:36] <sudharsh> yup
[02:36] <Battlestar> i think i know something that could have caused the problem...
[02:36] <Battlestar> well that time anyway
[02:37] <sudharsh> what...:)
[02:37] <Battlestar> if this doesn't work i dunno what will
[02:37] <lowman62> jawshoewah: have tried just this at prompt since it is already in your path ... "xmms &" without quotes?
[02:37] <jawshoewah> will try
[02:37] <lowman62> ok
[02:37] <lowman62> let me know
[02:37] <lapducky> onkarshinde, whenever I deliberately install a kernel image, it seems too.  I think debconf does this -- but maybe it only prefers newer or more specific architectures when updating GRUB/LILO...   =P
[02:37] <misiek> http://pastebin.com/497709
[02:37] <sudharsh> Battlestar...what wont work..
[02:38] <Battlestar> oh it was a number i changed last time when i went thru the config
[02:38] <Battlestar> i just changed it back to see if i cause yet another problem
[02:38] <jawshoewah> enter text at terminal xmms hit return cursor goes to next line and blinks as if it s running without a gui
[02:38] <Battlestar> lol
[02:38] <jawshoewah> lsmod
[02:38] <jawshoewah> ?
[02:38] <Battlestar> okay i'm not getting an effor message anymore so i was right about theat one
[02:38] <Battlestar> but i'm back at square 1
[02:38] <jawshoewah> will that list it as a process?
[02:39] <Battlestar> back wiht my demented scren
[02:39] <lowman62> jawshoewah: sounds to me like it is running in process kill that process or however many of them you got going
[02:39] <sudharsh> well.....do the same stuff...selecting ati
[02:39] <Battlestar> that's what i just did
[02:39] <jawshoewah> how do i do that?\
[02:39] <lowman62> yes ps -al
[02:39] <sudharsh> k Battlestar......go 2 a termina;
[02:40] <jawshoewah> my linux toys 2 book only has som many abcs of linux in appendix!
[02:40] <lowman62> ctrl+c first to get your prompt back then
[02:40] <Munchkinguy> lowman62: Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD.  I observed once. Its only that your default option is constant but your kernel listing has changed. 386 will be listed before 686 in grub menu
[02:41] <nalioth> sylvyo: join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting please, #ubuntu is a help and support channel
[02:41] <sylvyo> ok
[02:41] <sudharsh> type 'sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:41] <sylvyo> THANKS SUCKER
[02:41] <AIV> using streamcast, I can't tune into ant stations, the error I get is "failed to execute child processes "xmms" (no such file or directory)"
[02:41] <sylvyo> jkl
[02:41] <sylvyo> d
[02:41] <sylvyo> s
[02:41] <sylvyo> fds
[02:41] <sylvyo> fsd
[02:41] <sylvyo> f
[02:41] <sylvyo> sd
[02:41] <sylvyo> f
[02:41] <sylvyo> sd
[02:41] <misiek> i posted on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6834 as well
[02:41] <AIV> does anyone know what that is all about?
[02:42] <Battlestar> hmm well that made a blur of information pass thru my screen
[02:42] <Munchkinguy> I wouldn't mind some "help and support"
[02:42] <lowman62> thanks nalioth..re sylvyo
[02:42] <nalioth> lowman62: we all do what we can
[02:43] <sudharsh> Battlestar gimme the contents in pvt
[02:43] <lowman62> well i appreciate it :)
[02:43] <Battlestar> how di do it in private
[02:43] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: go on.
[02:43] <Battlestar> how do i give u the contents fullstop
[02:43] <nalioth> Battlestar: use a pastebin
[02:43] <sudharsh> well copy em
[02:43] <{{brooklyn}}> Munchkinguy
[02:43] <sudharsh> copy-paste
[02:43] <Battlestar> ok explain copy....
[02:43] <Munchkinguy> Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.
[02:44] <gypsymauro> hello I've doenloaded some packages and then created a cd using dpkg-scanpackages, now I can add my cd  with apt-cdrom add but when I try to install a packages from the CD apt-get says "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" a list of packages and "Install these packages without verification [y/N] ", how I can make them authenticated?
[02:44] <{{brooklyn}}> i also have same problem
[02:44] <Munchkinguy> I went to the Network Connections setup program, but the only thing I could do was change the properties of existing connections. I couldnt press the add connection button because it wasnt there.
[02:44] <Battlestar> i'm chatting on a completely diferent PC to the one i'm trying to get this working on
[02:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gypsymauro about gpgerr
[02:44] <Battlestar> and the output it a coupe of pages long
[02:44] <sudharsh> ohhhh.....
[02:44] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: do 'sudo pppeoconf' from terminal
[02:44] <{{brooklyn}}> that how i do it
[02:44] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: sorry 'sudo pppoeconf'
[02:44] <nalioth> Battlestar: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:44] <sudharsh> alrito....now go to the configuration
[02:44] <Friar> my hash key dont work
[02:45] <Munchkinguy> onkarshinde: that's all I have to do?
[02:45] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: Yes, it will ask you a couple of questions
[02:45] <Munchkinguy> Thank you.
[02:45] <Battlestar> ok going back to reconfigure...
[02:45] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: But I don't know how you can sustain your configurations from live CD
[02:45] <sudharsh> this time attempt to autodetect
[02:45] <lowman62> jawshoewah: yt?
[02:46] <Battlestar> it just fails and asks me to select a dirver anyway
[02:46] <jawshoewah> yes
[02:46] <gypsymauro> nalioth: uh? I suppose isn't the gpg error
[02:46] <misiek> noone can help me? please tell so now, so i dont have to wait here in vain
[02:46] <Battlestar> so i select ATI
[02:46] <lowman62> jawshoewah: did that work?
[02:46] <sudharsh> ok
[02:46] <jawshoewah> i dont know the syntaxt for killing a process
[02:46] <nalioth> gypsymauro: if you follow the instructions, you can put your cd back in and when you apt-get update it'll reverify it
[02:47] <{{brooklyn}}> onkarshinde:can how to disconnect internet connection??
[02:47] <nalioth> gypsymauro: or you can comment out the line in your sources.list and not worry about it anymore
[02:47] <misiek> brooklyn: unplug the cable?
[02:47] <sudharsh> Battlestar.....looks like i cant be of much help now
[02:47] <lowman62> jawshoewah: kill <pid number>
[02:47] <gypsymauro> nalioth: I think maybe the problem is that on my CD I've not a Release file
[02:47] <nalioth> gypsymauro: it is a locally made CD ?
[02:47] <jawshoewah> what will list pid numbers
[02:47] <{{brooklyn}}> other method??
[02:47] <gypsymauro> nalioth: yes
[02:48] <lowman62> jawshoewah: ps -al
[02:48] <nalioth> gypsymauro: ah, then yes. you'll just have to deal with the msgs
[02:48] <Battlestar> lol
[02:48] <jawshoewah> ty
[02:48] <Battlestar> oh well thanks for all ur help sudharsh
[02:48] <Battlestar> and hangin in there with me
[02:48] <lowman62> jawshoewah: yw :)
[02:48] <sudharsh> sorry mate....anyways
[02:48] <onkarshinde> {{brooklyn}}: poff ppp0 or poff dsl-provider
[02:48] <Battlestar> looks like this one aint gonna be solved... for now at least
[02:48] <{{brooklyn}}> thank
[02:48] <Battlestar> i'll have anothr hack at it tomorrow after work
[02:48] <sudharsh> speak with the apple guyz nevertheless
[02:48] <Battlestar> it's 3am here atm lol
[02:49] <sudharsh> alrito...
[02:49] <jawshoewah> ps -al gives me bacl some confusing data
[02:49] <nalioth> Battlestar: come back in about 8-10 hours and ask me then (i just got off work and need to sleep)
[02:49] <Battlestar> anyway thanks again
[02:49] <Battlestar> cya
[02:49] <sudharsh> here in chennai  its 7:30
[02:49] <sudharsh> cya
[02:49] <misiek>  what does "nalioth sets mode: -b %misiek!*@*"
[02:49] <gypsymauro> nalioth: uhm I want to ship that CD to students of a school so I hope to throw away that message, there is an easy way to build that Release file?
[02:49] <misiek> mean
[02:49] <sobersabre> where can I read ubuntu-java installation instruction ?
[02:49] <nalioth> misiek: it means you were quieted (from sending to the channel)
[02:49] <sudharsh> java for firefox?
[02:50] <lowman62> jawshoewah: look to the right hand side of the output for xmms then locate its PID #
[02:50] <sudharsh> jawshoewah...try 'top' and locate xmms
[02:50] <nalioth> gypsymauro: see the debian maintainers guide at debian.org (or visit #ubuntu-motu and ask there)
[02:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sobersabre about java
[02:50] <lowman62> jawshoewah: or you can do it the Windblows way and reboot LOL
[02:50] <gypsymauro> motu?:)
[02:50] <misiek> nalioth: why did you quit me?
[02:50] <nalioth> misiek: the /topic is the first thing you see when you join a channel
[02:50] <kemik> got a problem installing gamin and libgamin, what do i do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6835     (reasons for intsalling: gamin has a big memoryleak which consumes 100-400mb of memory after a few hours uptime)
[02:51] <jawshoewah> no i need to learn the gnu way!
[02:51] <nalioth> misiek: the /topic provides info for folks in the channel
[02:51] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6836
[02:51] <nalioth> gypsymauro: motu = masters of the universe (repository)
[02:51] <jawshoewah> xmms isnt listed
[02:51] <misiek> oright. sorry for ingnoring this message. i did use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6834 now
[02:51] <kaos> Anyone know how to add IPv4 to Wireless card??
[02:51] <Ng> kemik: install both packages with one dpkg call, then the dependencies will be satisfied
[02:51] <gypsymauro> tanx:)
[02:51] <lowman62> jawshoewah: or you can Applications>System Tools>System Monitor and at the Processes tab locate xmms and kill it from there
[02:52] <jawshoewah> winblowz
[02:52] <kaos> Please, need some help.....
[02:52] <StyXman> hi all. how can i disable NetworkManager?
[02:52] <sudharsh> kaos: yes
[02:52] <kemik> Ng:  oh.. i see :)
[02:52] <kaos> sudharsh: how do I do it?
[02:52] <jawshoewah> oh my I sure do have a lot of them running!
[02:52] <sobersabre> !javadebs ?
[02:52] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:53] <sobersabre> how do I see them ?
[02:53] <WarpedShadow> Is there a way of installing an application when using the lvie CD?
[02:53] <sudharsh> kaos..mayb i mssed somethin....whats ur problem? :
[02:53] <nalioth> sobersabre: you just called them, read what ubotu wrote
[02:53] <nalioth> WarpedShadow: of course, you can do anything you like
[02:53] <WarpedShadow> maybe I should have added, easily
[02:53] <nalioth> brenner: howdy
[02:53] <sobersabre> !javadebs
[02:53] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:54] <sobersabre> (question mark messed it... )
[02:54] <nalioth> WarpedShadow: use synaptic or apt-get, it works like a installed ubuntu
[02:54] <brenner> nalioth: hello
[02:54] <WarpedShadow> nalioth: okay.
[02:54] <lowman62> jawshoewah: that is why it is not working :P
[02:54] <jawshoewah> batabing
[02:55] <kaos> sudharsh: cant get wireless to work on my laptop, works on some ruters but not others. I think its because of IPv6.
[02:55] <jawshoewah> i had about twelve of each running no wonder
[02:55] <lowman62> jawshoewah: working now?
[02:55] <jawshoewah> yes
[02:55] <kaos> Anyone else here to help?
[02:55] <kemik> Ng:  thx
[02:55] <lowman62> coolies
[02:55] <lowman62> :)
[02:55] <jawshoewah> :)))))
[02:55] <kaos> sudharsh just quit....
[02:55] <jawshoewah> thats my triple chin smile
[02:55] <ErMenGoL> hey guys!!
[02:55] <lowman62> jawshoewah: now rock on dude..lol :P
[02:56] <jawshoewah> lol here comes my 8am metal!!!!!!!!
[02:56] <kaos> anyone......???
[02:56] <jawshoewah> see you later lowman
[02:56] <misiek> yeah i ask the same question
[02:57] <lowman62> jawshoewah: laters :)
[02:58] <lowman62> for the folks having trouble with their wireless .. here http://flacknews.blogspot.com/2005/11/use-ndiswrapper-to-setup-wireless-in.html
[02:59] <kaos> checking......
[03:00] <definity> hello
[03:00] <lowman62> hello
[03:01] <definity> i have found a nice wireless card but im not sure if it is compatible with ubuntu shall i show you the link?
[03:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell definity about wireless
[03:02] <nalioth> definity: look to your private messages and have a look for yourself
[03:02] <lowman62> nalioth: that one must get asked at least a gazillion times a day in here LOL
[03:03] <nalioth> lowman62: we have a smart bot to help us
[03:03] <yew_> any body can tell me how to change mount point of hard disk?
[03:03] <nalioth> !botsnack
[03:03] <ubotu> :)
[03:03] <lowman62> lol
[03:03] <Ng> nothing about bloot is smart ;)
[03:04] <UncleD> On bootup I get FAILURE for synchornizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (failed to resolve name) - how can I fix or remove this (it holds bootup for almost 2 min)
[03:04] <dodo> hello~
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell UncleD about bum
[03:04] <UncleD> thx
[03:05] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !bum
[03:05] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CanYouHelpMePlz about msg the bot
[03:06] <Pygi> can anybody send me scanModem.gz file? thanks
[03:06] <nalioth> Pygi: can you be a bit more specific ? or should i 'touch' one into existence for you :P
[03:07] <lowman62> LOL
[03:07] <definity> i had a look at that link but the wireless card is not there would it still work in linux?
[03:07] <IG0R> im telneting a server...how can i control its replies on a script?
[03:07] <Pygi> nalioth: I am currently working at tranfering someone from win to ubuntu :P but he needs modem :P
[03:07] <dodo> scim can`t install ! help~
[03:07] <brenner> nalioth: play nice
[03:07] <nalioth> definity: post the URL in here please
[03:07] <lowman62> definity: try here http://flacknews.blogspot.com/2005/11/use-ndiswrapper-to-setup-wireless-in.html
[03:07] <definity> http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwu/reliawave-rwu-300mw-atheros-802.11a-b-g-cardbus.html
[03:08] <nalioth> lowman62: definity might not need ndiswrapper, there are quite a few wireless chips that work ootb
[03:08] <nalioth> definity: yes it will work
[03:08] <lowman62> 802.11 yes it will work]
[03:08] <Pygi> thanks nalioth, I just found it :P
[03:09] <definity> would i ahve to install the drivers manualy then?
[03:09] <misiek> ja
[03:09] <CosmoDad> are there any ubuntu-specific mailing lists, especially security-related ones?
[03:09] <lowman62> definity: it should install no problem in ubuntu without the driver
[03:09] <dodo> ?
[03:10] <nalioth> definity: you probably won't have to install anything
[03:10] <definity> :) thanks guys
[03:10] <nalioth> CosmoDad: on wiki.ubuntu.com there is a link to all the mailing lists
[03:10] <lowman62> yw
[03:11] <CosmoDad> nalioth: didn't know, I'll take a look
[03:11] <gnomefreak> good morning
[03:11] <CosmoDad> nalioth: thx
[03:11] <brenner> Pygi: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
[03:11] <lowman62> gnomefreak: hey how are ya?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> lowman62, good and you?
[03:11] <lowman62> gnomefreak: i'm feelin froggy
[03:12] <BigKahuna> reccomendation for ebook (chm) reader?
[03:12] <lowman62> BigKahuna: CHM Viewer
[03:13] <nalioth> BigKahuna: kchm
[03:13] <BigKahuna> thanks.
[03:13] <misiek> So my question again: During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on. I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.
[03:13] <misiek> maybe now can someone help me please?
[03:13] <Pygi> breener: that package is empty :P
[03:14] <nalioth> misiek: it should only ask once. one is all you need
[03:14] <Pygi> breener: i found it, no worries
[03:14] <gnomefreak> misiek, during install you have to make 1 user and one password
[03:14] <brenner> Pygi: it was?
[03:14] <misiek> nalioth: i know, but it asks on and on
[03:14] <brenner> Pygi: weird.  isn't that the official site?
[03:14] <misiek> thats the *PROBLEM*
[03:14] <nalioth> misiek: you should have the option to continue w/o adding more users
[03:14] <Pygi> breener: it is :P
[03:14] <misiek> i use simple name and password
[03:14] <UncleD> nalioth: I installed bum, and I go to remove ntpdate from startup and it says, "Cannot remove ntpdate from rcS.d symbolic links, this is for deep level administration only"
[03:15] <lowman62> misiek; continue
[03:15] <misiek> i just press continue after typing the pass
[03:15] <lowman62> yes
[03:15] <nalioth> UncleD: may i suggest you utilize your superuser priveleges with care
[03:15] <misiek> and it goes to "enter the full user name"
[03:15] <Delgul_at_work> Question: under breezy I have a greyed-out recent documents button when the home drive is mounted under nfs... Anyone any idea?
[03:16] <karlwrk> if I'm not using any lvm disks, why would I want evms?
[03:17] <misiek> nalioth: i assume the full user name can contain spaces?
[03:17] <nalioth> misiek: yes, it can
[03:17] <misiek> so what happens?
[03:17] <misiek> how do i break the chain?
[03:17] <nalioth> misiek: hit 'esc' and select the next option
[03:18] <misiek> it will lead me to the menu right?
[03:18] <nalioth> misiek: correct
[03:18] <misiek> i did so
[03:18] <misiek> i couldnt login after install
[03:19] <misiek> could not find the user or sth
[03:19] <Ng> did you say you have spaces in the username?
[03:19] <Ng> or just the full name?
[03:19] <misiek> no  not in the username. in the full name of user. my name
[03:19] <Ng> ah ok, nm then
[03:19] <dooglus> misiek: usernames shouldn't be longer than 8 letters really.  what name are you using?
[03:19] <misiek> misiek =P
[03:20] <nalioth> dooglus: not the user name, the full name of user
[03:20] <dooglus> nalioth: the full name can be as long as you like, within reason
[03:20] <nalioth> misiek: i've just gotten off a long long shift at work, so am not much help right now
[03:20] <nalioth> dooglus: yes i was explaining to misiek. misiek is stuck at an endless adduser section of the install
[03:21] <misiek> hmm okey. maybe get some sleep and someone else can help me
[03:21] <nalioth_zZz> misiek: there are plenty of folks here
[03:21] <dooglus> nalioth: right.  i was wondering if it's because the username he specified is illegal - with spaces, or "=P"s or somesuch
[03:21] <nalioth_zZz> dooglus: you'd have to ask misiek
[03:21] <dooglus> nalioth_zZz: I did :)
[03:21] <misiek> hehe no  no my user name is misiek
[03:22] <gnomefreak> dooglus, that could be why it keeps asking him
[03:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:22] <nalioth_zZz> misiek: not your user name, your "full name of user"
[03:22] <misiek> the =P is for it being my nick here as well.
[03:22] <misiek> ah , my full name of user is Michal Pomorski thats my name
[03:22] <dooglus> misiek: what are you typing for your full name?  does it have any 'funny' characters in it?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> misiek, they mean the full name like mike sanford
[03:23] <caugier> hi
[03:23] <lowman62> lo
[03:23] <misiek> no no funny characters and the installer is not complaining about anything
[03:23] <misiek> just goes on
[03:23] <dooglus> misiek: is this the basic install, or did you go for 'expert mode' or something?
[03:23] <lowman62> misiek: no option to continue?
[03:23] <caugier> is there some particular place to ask questions about the ubuntu livecd? (i need to change the kernel, and i'have some problems)
[03:23] <misiek> no just basic
[03:23] <misiek> maybe i should try expert
[03:24] <lowman62> misiek: did you select to set partitions yourself?
[03:24] <misiek> yes
[03:24] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hey can some one tell me where i can pick up xmms skins?
[03:25] <lowman62> misiek: try reinstalling and let ubuntu setup partitions that is probably why
[03:25] <dooglus> misiek: you can skip user creation and create a user for yourself afterwards
[03:25] <misiek> i have windows installed and i set a 3.5G partition for root and 4 gb for home
[03:25] <misiek> as well as 300something for swap
[03:25] <gnomefreak> 300 what for swap?
[03:25] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it doesn't matter in this case, right?
[03:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: the installer isn't wanting to swap
[03:26] <misiek> it is in the end of the disk but there seems to be no problem with sectors too far away from the beginnig of the disk
[03:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus, no but just wondering 300 gigs for swap :(
[03:26] <misiek> 300mb of course
[03:26] <gnomefreak> oh good  :( sorry ive seen people do some odd things
[03:26] <misiek> dooglus: okey how do i do it
[03:26] <lowman62> misiek: it gives you no way to just continue?
[03:26] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: that's googable.  look out for winamp classic skins as well
[03:27] <misiek> tcreate user afterwards?
[03:27] <misiek> lowman: i can skip back to menu but i end up with no user
[03:27] <lowman62> misiek: try creating user after install
[03:27] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brenner, can i use winamp on linux?
[03:28] <misiek> how?
[03:28] <misiek> i cant login
[03:28] <lowman62> use recovery at grub login
[03:28] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: not under some emulation i'd assume
[03:28] <misiek> okey ill try that
[03:28] <lowman62> misiek: let me know
[03:29] <misiek> i have another problem
[03:29] <misiek> x refuses to start
[03:29] <misiek> hehe
[03:29] <misiek> no screen
[03:29] <misiek> looks like bad driver
[03:29] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: *not *without* some emulation
[03:29] <misiek> i have ati radeon
[03:29] <lowman62> misiek: oh man! you got you some troubles...what driver?
[03:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> umm ok..
[03:29] <misiek> tried vesa and ati
[03:30] <misiek> i had that before when i was installing debian
[03:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so is there some other better player? I didnt like rythm box..or xmms
[03:30] <lowman62> misiek: did you resolve it in debian?
[03:30] <godzzo> Hi!
[03:30] <misiek> i mean the no screen. i chose the wron driver then
[03:30] <misiek> yeah
[03:30] <brenner> ubotu: tell s_spiff{AWAY} about players
[03:31] <misiek> but now its on a different machine
[03:31] <lowman62> misiek: just use the same resolve in ubuntu
[03:31] <misiek> knopix runs on ati i think
[03:31] <jamie_> The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.
[03:31] <jamie_> You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.
[03:31] <enkrav> Hello, I messed up the sound configuration with gnome-volume-control and now my microphone won't record any more. How can I reset all the sound settings?
[03:31] <jamie_> ^ Getting this when trying to play mp3's
[03:31] <yew_> help-where can i get linux boot disk??
[03:31] <jorgp> why would I get a root@spock:/etc# [4361483.167000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set
[03:31] <phanter> hello,how can I mount an ftp server?
[03:31] <jorgp> 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)
[03:31] <lowman62> enkrav: alsa-mixer at console
[03:32] <godzzo> I would like to use a mirroring file system (across network). Which filesystem can mirror file operation accross network? (importan the realtime, rsync mode is not good).
[03:32] <jorgp> when I shift-pageup in a console?
[03:32] <brenner> jamie_: using what app?
[03:32] <jamie_> brenner,  that error is in amarok, however rhythmbox will not work either
[03:32] <brenner> ubotu: tell jamie_ about restricted
[03:33] <brenner> jamie_: rhythmboc requires a codec.  i'm guessing amarok does too
[03:33] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brenner, which one would you say it the 'best'?
[03:33] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  as in ...ur suggestion?
[03:33] <lowman62> jamie_: I had that problem with Amarok...I selected xmms applied then it allowed me to change the configuration
[03:33] <butcherbird> jorgp: try turn on or off numlock.
[03:33] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: i'm happy with bmp.  but it's almost identical to xmms, so you probably won't like it
[03:34] <jamie_> thank  you i am checking this out
[03:34] <dooglus> would someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/
[03:34] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  umm ok..
[03:34] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  will check it out..
[03:34] <godzzo> Known anybody a mirroring filesystem (accross network & realtime)?
[03:35] <enkrav> is there any advantage of using alsa-mixer instead of gnome-volume-control?
[03:35] <CosmoDad> godzzo: raid?
[03:35] <czr> godzzo, what about network block device and raid1?
[03:35] <s_spiff{AWAY}> bmp uses winamp skins! cool!
[03:35] <brenner> enkrav: gvc is just a frontend afaik
[03:36] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: winamp *classic* skins.  so does xmms
[03:36] <CosmoDad> enkrav: I could imagine that gnome-volume-control is independent of the underlying sound architecture while alsamixer is specific to alsa
[03:36] <phreak97> how do i install a .deb package?
[03:36] <jorgp> butcherbird: tried that, same thing
[03:36] <_jason> !deb
[03:36] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:36] <phreak97> cool thanks
[03:37] <butcherbird> jorgp: us keyboard? maybe keymapping is messed up
[03:37] <jorgp> butcherbird: yes
[03:37] <caugier> is there some particular place to ask questions about the ubuntu livecd? (i need to change the kernel, and i'have some problems)
[03:38] <mojo_> can some1 send me the /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so ? I messed around with my system and i lost that file
[03:38] <yeanhoo> !deb
[03:38] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:38] <yeanhoo> !deb --purge
[03:38] <ubotu> yeanhoo: I haven't a clue
[03:38] <yeanhoo> ok
[03:38] <yeanhoo> :-)
[03:39] <jorgp> butcherbird: it just started a few mins ago, now up and down arrows not working
[03:39] <jorgp> using breezy
[03:39] <mojo_> some1 pls
[03:39] <mojo_> pls pls
[03:39] <mojo_> some1 send me the file pls
[03:39] <yatesy> shut up
[03:39] <mojo_> T_T
[03:39] <marius_> uhm, what does it mean that a file is prompted?
[03:39] <JoeBlow> kameron, do u think quake 2 wouldnt load for me because of my driver?
[03:40] <kameron> JoeBlow, very likely
[03:40] <butcherbird> jorgp: that just in gnome or if you alt-ctrl-f2 to console too?
[03:40] <kameron> JoeBlow, but there's also a million other reasons perhaps it wouldn't launch. i'm very new to wine though. just started with it last night.
[03:40] <JoeBlow> kameron, the wierd thing was, after i installed it,i clicked run, and it ran fine, and then i closed it and clicked the icon it made, and it just opened the quake 2 window and froze and i couldnt even close it
[03:40] <godzzo> CosmoDad, raid accross to server?
[03:40] <kameron> JoeBlow, ah, that's nuts man. try #winehq
[03:40] <marius_> uhm, what does it mean that a file is prompted?
[03:40] <JoeBlow> kameron, oh that was native install
[03:40] <JoeBlow> kameron, no wine at all
[03:41] <kameron> JoeBlow, cedega?
[03:41] <JoeBlow> kameron, runs faster if u can do it without
[03:41] <CosmoDad> godzzo: you'd need some sort of networking above the filesystem level, indeed
[03:41] <kameron> oh, native, gotcha JoeBlow
[03:41] <CosmoDad> godzzo: like nfs
[03:41] <kameron> JoeBlow, but most game makers don't make native installs
[03:41] <JoeBlow> kameron, yep
[03:41] <brenner> marius_: what's the exact wording?
[03:41] <JoeBlow> kameron, but if u can use it, its pretty cool
[03:41] <Ng> CosmoDad: that's pretty ghetto, there are specialist distributed filesystems available ;)
[03:42] <godzzo> czr, what is network block device?
[03:42] <marius_> It just say; if file2 exist, the user is prompted before it is overwritten
[03:42] <czr> godzzo, what is google :-)
[03:42] <godzzo> czr, okok :)
[03:43] <brenner> marius_:  prompted: asked for action
[03:43] <CosmoDad> Ng: indeed, my knowledge about distributed filesystems is pretty ghetto, I was only guessing :)
[03:43] <czr> godzzo, also look for enhanced network block device
[03:43] <Ng> godzzo: you are looking for a distributed filesystem. while you are at google, ask it about ones available for linux
[03:43] <czr> mirrored filesystem is not the same as a distributed filesystem normally
[03:43] <Ng> CosmoDad: hehe, to be fair the few that do exist aren't that great. It's an enormously tricky problem to solve
[03:43] <CosmoDad> godzzo: dump what I said, listen to the others!
[03:43] <marius_> So, ite will ask "do you want to overwritte" before the computer overwritte?
[03:43] <czr> Ng, GFS and lustre are quite ok
[03:44] <czr> AFS was ok at one time, but it's pita to use nowadays
[03:44] <Ng> czr: for varying values of "quite" that go from "barely" to "not at all" ;)
[03:44] <brenner> marius_: exactly
[03:44] <stark-johan> to install a new font I just have to dump it in /usr/share/fonts/ right?
[03:44] <czr> ng, sure. but as you said, it is a difficult problem to solve :-)
[03:44] <Ng> hehe
[03:44] <marius_> Okey, thanks for your help :)
[03:44] <JoeBlow> whats the command to run rm, is it sh?
[03:44] <kameron> JoeBlow, to run the rm command? what?
[03:44] <mwe> stark-johan: what kind of font?
[03:44] <CosmoDad> JoeBlow: the command to run rm is -- rm :)
[03:45] <JoeBlow> kameron, oops, i mean ,run
[03:45] <JoeBlow> kameron, oops, i mean .run
[03:45] <phreak97> what's --prefix /usr ?
[03:45] <mwe> stark-johan: ttf fonts should go to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[03:45] <czr> -- rm?
[03:45] <butcherbird> JoeBlow: sh filename.sh?
[03:45] <godzzo> thanks
[03:45] <Ng> JoeBlow: yes, sh ./foo.run
[03:45] <stark-johan> mwe > a ttf. ok. thanks
[03:45] <phreak97> and how do i uninstall an installed .deb package?
[03:45] <CosmoDad> phreak97: dpkg -r
[03:45] <jamie> When I open synaptic I get this (along with all the other repositories listed) However I am getting it on both of my computers, and it was fine yesterday. I am unable to apt-get anything either
[03:46] <mwe> phreak97: also learn to use the "man" command please
[03:46] <bigGrim> how can I enable the sshd?
[03:46] <CosmoDad> phreak97: without the version and extension on the package name
[03:46] <jamie> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:46] <Ng> bigGrim: install the "ssh" package
[03:46] <JoeBlow> kameron, ok reinstalling quake 2
[03:46] <gnomefreak> jamie, put a # infront of the cdrom repo
[03:46] <JoeBlow> kameron, did u look for a half life 2 native install?
[03:46] <kameron> JoeBlow, no, i don't think it exists
[03:46] <jamie> gnomefreak,  ok, but where
[03:47] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea i doubt it, im lucky, i play mostly id games, and u always get them with id games
[03:47] <JoeBlow> kameron, gotta get me another quake 3 key
[03:47] <prem> hi all
[03:47] <kameron> JoeBlow, i don't really play games other than CS:S.. and a little starcraft
[03:47] <JoeBlow> kameron, ill play it with u if u can figure t out
[03:47] <gnomefreak> jamie, in term type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and when open paste your sources list to pastebin and i will look at it
[03:47] <dooglus> would someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/
[03:48] <kameron> JoeBlow, yeah, i'll keep you updated
[03:48] <JoeBlow> kameron, where do u live?
[03:48] <prem> has anybody tried helpExplorer ( a .chm and .hlp viewer for linux) on ubuntu-dapper-amd64 ( i know about kchmviewer and xchm/gnochm but still ...)
[03:48] <gib8> hi my xmms crashed and now blocking the soundcard device, knows someone how i can get this blocking away?
[03:48] <kill9> Hi guys, I know this isnt specifically ubuntu related, but could anyone help  me with DNS?
[03:48] <nalioth> JoeBlow: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:48] <jamie> gnomefreak, ok 1 sec
[03:48] <_jason> gib8, try: killall xmms
[03:49] <brenner> gib8: try 'killall esd'
[03:49] <azatoth> i would like to create an ext3 filesystem on a existing partition. when i run "mkfs.ext3 /dev/drbd0" i get the error: "/dev/drbd0 is apparently in use by the system". anyone knows what is wrong?
[03:49] <gib8> _jason, i did killall xmms, no xmms is runing
[03:49] <gib8> brenner, i try
[03:49] <nalioth> azatoth: run it from a liveCD
[03:49] <gib8> brenner, it was the esd
[03:49] <gib8> brenner, thx :)
[03:49] <brenner> np
[03:49] <prem> azatoth, type df(or mount) and see if /dev/drbd0 is mounted
[03:49] <jamie> gnomefreak, pastebin?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:50] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:50] <azatoth> prem: no, it isn't mounted.
[03:50] <azatoth> nalioth: isn't there an easier way?
[03:51] <nalioth> azatoth: obviously it is mounted, or you wouldnt get that msg
[03:51] <jamie> gnomefreak,  sent to pastebin
[03:51] <gnomefreak> jamie, can i have the link please
[03:51] <gnomefreak> nm
[03:51] <gnomefreak> i have it
[03:51] <aggressor> HEY , WHERE I CAN CHANGE DESKTOP THEMES
[03:51] <azatoth> nalioth: i guess thats because of drdb. isn't there a way to force it? i have already tried "-F".
[03:51] <jamie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6839
[03:52] <s_spiff{AWAY}> www.gnome-look.org
[03:52] <gnomefreak> jamie, you see the first repo?
[03:52] <phreak97> aggressor, i was wondering that myself
[03:52] <Ng> aggressor: no need to shout ;)   System->Preferences->Themes
[03:52] <jamie> need # i know
[03:52] <jamie> lol tks, is that all?
[03:52] <aggressor> oo tyu
[03:52] <gnomefreak> just put the # infront of the word deb in that one
[03:52] <s_spiff{AWAY}> aggressor, u can find them at www.gnome-look.org
[03:52] <nalioth> azatoth: if you've tried force and it didnt work. you will either need to try other methods
[03:52] <aggressor> ty
[03:52] <gnomefreak> yes jamie that is it
[03:53] <s_spiff{AWAY}> np
[03:53] <jamie> gnomefreak,  thank you.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> jamie save close run sudo apt-get update
[03:53] <jamie> gnome ok
[03:53] <azatoth> nalioth: okay, thank you very much. i will try to stop drbd and then try it again. otherwise i will use a live cd.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> brb i wanna try something
[03:54] <marius_> How do I logg into root with Ubuntu?
[03:54] <AIV> what is the best newsreader for ubuntu?
[03:54] <Ng> AIV: pan is pretty goo
[03:54] <Ng> d
[03:54] <prem> AIV, pan
[03:54] <nalioth> marius_: best that you do not. use 'sudo'
[03:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marius_ about root
[03:54] <bigGrim> how do i force a... apt-get install ssh 2 source from inernet
[03:55] <nalioth> bigGrim: in a console, type "sudo apt-get source ssh"
[03:55] <gnomefreak> jamie, can i ask where you got that last repo from?
[03:56] <marius_> Nalioth: is uboto a kind of bot? since he sounds retarded :P
[03:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marius_ about yourself
[03:56] <AIV> ok, I installed pan
[03:56] <AIV> but I can only invoke it from the terminal
[03:56] <nalioth> AIV: it should be in your internet menu
[03:57] <dooglus> would someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/
[03:57] <gnomefreak> sorry dooglus i dumped dapper for a lil while :(
[03:58] <Seveas> dooglus, hopefully VERY little :)
[03:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with a question? i see alot of people have their running windows show up in a kind of bar, like the one in this picture i was wondering how i would do that ? http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/20xfce4.jpg
[03:59] <dooglus> Seveas: why do you say that?
[03:59] <Seveas> dooglus, /usr/X11R6 is deprecated
[03:59] <butcherbird> CanYouHelpMePlz: you using gnome or xfce?
[03:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> butcherbird: gnome
[03:59] <hmrocha> hello
[03:59] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, that is xfce desktop
[03:59] <hmrocha> is it safe to upgrade to dapper now?
[03:59] <dooglus> Seveas: what's the correct ProjectRoot for xorg then?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> hmrocha, no
[04:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: is their a way to have the bottom be the same? like with icons instead of full bars for running programs
[04:00] <gnomefreak> safe =april 20
[04:00] <AIV> nalioth, doesn't show up in there
[04:00] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: do you mean the button bar at to or the workspace bar at "doc" at the bottom
[04:00] <Seveas> dooglus, you should not use the imake build system
[04:00] <hmrocha> gnomefreak, ok, thanks
[04:00] <AIV> nalioth, could it be because I used apt-get to get it?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <Seveas> xorg 7 uses an autotoolized build system
[04:00] <thegladiator> !xubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> I guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:00] <butcherbird> CanYouHelpMePlz: i much prefer xfce lately
[04:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: will i lose everything i have done so far?
[04:00] <nalioth> AIV: in a console, type
[04:00] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, no
[04:00] <dooglus> Seveas: imake reckons that the X stuff is in /usr/X11R6, and it isn't
[04:01] <nalioth> AIV: type "killall gnome-panel"
[04:01] <thegladiator> xfce's nxt release is looking good
[04:01] <thegladiator> how many of you guys except gnomefreak :) run kde ?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> me
[04:01] <thegladiator> just for stats purpose , on ubuntu i.e
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i do
[04:01] <butcherbird> CanYouHelpMePlz: after install alt-ctrl-backspace and click sessions at login screen change to xfce and login
[04:01] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, i have a bunch of desktops
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  i have both gnome and kde
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  bunch? gnomefreak ?
[04:01] <thegladiator> ah and which do you prefer lately ?
[04:01] <AIV> nalioth, that did it
[04:01] <gnomefreak> bunch
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i think GNOME's better..
[04:02] <TauReX> question: I have a server install. What do I need to apt-get in order to display GUI apps on my desktop. I installed VMWare player, but it's GUI-only :(
[04:02] <thegladiator> i have almost stlled for kde atm
[04:02] <gnomefreak> gnome kde xfce enlightenment and blackbox
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  there are other desktops other than KDE and GNOME?
[04:02] <thegladiator> ah
[04:02] <AIV> nalioth, so killall gnome-panel rebuild the menus or something like that?
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}> wow!
[04:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i don't want to start a war... but xfce is better then gnome or..?
[04:02] <thegladiator> so we have many ubuntu user running kde out here
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}> which one's the best gnomefreak ?
[04:02] <thegladiator> no flames please
[04:02] <gnomefreak> s_spiff{AWAY}, there are like 15-20 lol
[04:02] <Ng> you can't ask which desktop is the best
[04:02] <Seveas> dooglus, that's why you should not use the imake build system :)
[04:02] <Ng> it's like asking which fruit is the best
[04:02] <Ng> the answer is: whichever you like most :)
[04:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thats easy.
[04:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> oranges.
[04:03] <dooglus> Seveas: but what if the program I'm trying to install uses it?
[04:03] <gib8> Ng, Bananas ;)
[04:03] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: NO, APPLES!
[04:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}> :P sorry noob to linux..
[04:03] <thegladiator> XFCE is good on memory , GNOME /KDE good on applications
[04:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so didnt know
[04:03] <prem> anybody want to try HelpExplorer www.kamasoftware.com
[04:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: NO GRAPES.
[04:03] <Ng> no don't start a fruit war, accept the greater truth in my statements ;p
[04:03] <Seveas> dooglus, then the program is broken and should be fixed :)
[04:03] <thegladiator> apple is the best fruit accoring to steve jobs :)
[04:03] <Seveas> dooglus, what is it?
[04:03] <dooglus> Seveas: GNU Emacs
[04:03] <gnomefreak> i like xfce and gnome the most but i like some of kdes apps blackbox iu try not to use very often
[04:04] <Seveas> dooglus, apt-get install emacs21
[04:04] <dooglus> Seveas: it's too old
[04:04] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i can't stand kde.
[04:04] <dooglus> Seveas: I'm looking for the current CVS version
[04:04] <Seveas> dooglus, apt-get source emacs21
[04:04] <Seveas> and use the debian/ dir inside it on the new tarball
[04:04] <dooglus> Seveas: that's the same age as the binary.
[04:04] <Seveas> dooglus, I know, but the debian/ dir should be usable :)
[04:05] <Seveas> !info emacs21 dapper
[04:05] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5900 kB
[04:05] <Seveas> !info emacs21
[04:05] <shirish> hi guys
[04:05] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB
[04:05] <Seveas> !info emacs22 dapper
[04:05] <s_spiff> hi shrisih
[04:05] <dooglus> Seveas: why do the repositories still have imake in them when it doesn't work?
[04:05] <s_spiff>  finally good to see a few indian people around here.
[04:05] <shirish> thanx
[04:05] <s_spiff> shirish* [ sorry, mistype ]
[04:05] <thegladiator> whose indian s_pif ?
[04:05] <Seveas> dooglus, bugwarts combatability
[04:05] <s_spiff>  i am
[04:05] <thegladiator> ah bloddy indians :)
[04:05] <dooglus> Seveas: what does that mean?
[04:06] <thegladiator> i myself am one :)
[04:06] <s_spiff> haha...
[04:06] <s_spiff>  i didn't know..
[04:06] <shirish> o.k. cool
[04:06] <C-O-L-T> do you know a world atlas for linux? it is necessary for my studies
[04:06] <thegladiator> he he:)
[04:06] <Ubuntu> hi
[04:06] <Ubuntu> from where can I download language support?
[04:06] <Seveas> dooglus, backwarts compatibility that should (and will) be removed
[04:06] <thegladiator> hi ubuntu . you are here ?!
[04:06] <s_spiff>  ubuntu... try changing u nick..
[04:06] <mwe> C-O-L-T: is there any?
[04:06] <Ubuntu> I mean Arabic language
[04:06] <Seveas> Ubuntu, system -> admin -> language selector
 ok
[04:06] <TTilus> Ubuntu: download?  (you did not select it during installation?)
[04:06] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, what heppened with the otehr program ?
[04:06] <shirish> I posted a query about 2 days back http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114008 but didn't get any answers. Can anybody help here.
[04:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> heh i don't like xfce, i hought i would.
[04:07] <thegladiator> and google earth is not enuf ?
[04:07] <Seveas> TTilus, the installer + arabic == no-go
[04:07] <TTilus> Mankdim: just go and switch like Seveas told
[04:07] <TTilus> Seveas: ah, not supported yet
[04:07] <shirish> Trying to make a custom repositery
[04:07] <TTilus> Seveas: i thought it was...
[04:07] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: I can not install it
[04:07] <ydramacologic> hello ubuntu gamers
[04:07] <karlwrk> google is never enough
[04:07] <thegladiator> :(not even google earth ?
[04:07] <karlwrk> it's not even remotely standards compliant
[04:08] <karlwrk> and try adding your own imagery
[04:08] <shirish> that's an interesting statement karlwrk, what standards are u talking about?
[04:08] <thegladiator> shirish, it didnt do auton install ?
[04:08] <Mankdim> when I chose arabic fron list that's make 80% from list arabic
[04:08] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: how the hell can I run google earth on linux
[04:08] <Mankdim> but I want to use Arabic font
[04:08] <thegladiator> thats weird , did it get halted in between ?
[04:08] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, vmware + windows
[04:09] <s_spiff> hehe..nice one C-O-L-T
[04:09] <mwe> shirish: I don't understand what you're trying to achieve
[04:09] <thegladiator> mwe, seemingly install xubuntu ?
[04:09] <s_spiff> vmware is not free right?
[04:09] <Ng> correct
[04:09] <thegladiator> mwe, why do you need -d ?
[04:09] <s_spiff>  as in i need to pay something for  a registered non-troal version right?
[04:09] <gnomefreak> google-earth is not made for linux atleast not yet
[04:09] <butcherbird> s_spiff: vmplayer is not free but its free
[04:09] <Ng> I doubt google earth would even run very well in vmware
[04:09] <Ng> it's very 3d intensive
[04:09] <s_spiff> huh?
[04:10] <s_spiff> vmware? vmplayer?
[04:10] <s_spiff> same?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> its a damn ram hog too
[04:10] <thegladiator> no spiff
[04:10] <shirish> hi gladiator, what I'm trying to do is use the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto which explains how to make a CD  which can be used to install stuff later on. Something like Mandriva CD2. xubuntu-desktop is an example which they 've used.
[04:10] <gnomefreak> no
[04:10] <s_spiff> ! vmware
[04:10] <mwe> shirish: you've been doing apt-get -d xubuntu desktop for 3 days?
[04:10] <Ng> it has been suggested that google are porting earth to linux
[04:10] <thegladiator> shirish, ah got you
[04:10] <Ng> but who knows
[04:10] <karlwrk> shirish: all of the OGC standards, that the rest of the geo community uses
[04:10] <Ng> they tend not to make much noise about these things until they are done
[04:10] <karlwrk> even the terraserver is ogc compliant
[04:10] <thegladiator> shirish, did you see the deb files ?
[04:10] <s_spiff> shirish...
[04:11] <s_spiff>  ur post.. what is it exactly about?
[04:11] <Ng> there is a similar tool from NASA though, called Worldwind that does have a basic linux clone
[04:11] <Mankdim> I use live cd, but when I want to download arabic language support I can't, because my modem is not work with ubuntu !
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ng i hope it makes better use of resorces than :(
[04:11] <s_spiff> on the forums?
[04:11] <Ng> gnomefreak: yeah
[04:11] <northie> I'd like a hotkey for switching keyboard layouts. Any thoughts?
[04:11] <mwe> shirish: you're completely unclear about what you want. probably that's why you don't get any respons
[04:11] <thegladiator> shirish, did you get the deb files atleast ?
[04:11] <s_spiff> he must have...
[04:11] <shirish> yup can see the deb files at /var/apt/archives
[04:11] <s_spiff>  cuz he spent like 3 hours downloading them..and has already seen the .deb files..as his post says
[04:11] <C-O-L-T> Ng: what is that I need for my ubuntu, for my studies pls
[04:11] <s_spiff> yeah..
[04:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> when i want to go back to the way my pc was using gnome, i just select GNOME using session right?
[04:12] <thegladiator> shirish, if you have the deb files , burn it into cd . you can use that for future install using !deb
[04:12] <thegladiator> !deb
[04:12] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:12] <shirish> not 3 hrs. almost 9 hrs. 500 MB download
[04:12] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, yes that will bring you into gnome
[04:12] <s_spiff> whats !deb?
[04:12] <s_spiff> gladiator...
 I use live cd, but when I want to download arabic language support I can't, because my modem is not work with ubuntu !
[04:12] <s_spiff>  i just downloaded the update and stuff....
[04:12] <thegladiator> deb is something equivalent to rpm in linux
[04:12] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: you can select your session from login window, yes
[04:12] <s_spiff>  anyways i can burn them ona  cd? so that when i make a new install of ubuntu..
[04:12] <thegladiator> deb is what apt-get deals with
[04:12] <s_spiff>  i don't have to downloadf all the stuf f all over agin?
[04:12] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: and gnome will be available there
[04:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: ok, i didn't like XFCE at all
[04:13] <thegladiator> deb is like a package meant for debian systems
[04:13] <s_spiff> Mankdim, when u installed..what did u use as language?
[04:13] <thegladiator> I am not sure when you run apt-get etc where the db files are stoerd though
[04:13] <C-O-L-T> Ng:??????????????
[04:13] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, what was wrong with it?
 arabic
[04:13] <s_spiff> then?
[04:13] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: the defaults or did you try to config?
[04:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: it's just not when i'm use to, and i didn't like the colors etc.
 as 80% onlt fron lists
[04:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: heh, i just prefer my panels on gnoem
 as 80% only fron lists
[04:14] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: colors are easy to fix  ;)
 but when I want to use arabic font I can't
[04:14] <shirish> whenever u run apt-get they get stored in /var/apt/archives
[04:14] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, xfce is customizable :)) thats what makes linux great
[04:14] <s_spiff>  thegladiator can i burn all the stuff i downloaded from the synaptget... on to a cd? so that when i make a fresh install of ubuntu..i wont hav to download all the crap again?
[04:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: i'm sure
[04:14] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: then you are propably best off with gnome
[04:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: yea i'm sure
[04:14] <s_spiff> umm..wierd..
[04:14] <s_spiff> Mankdim, why don't u post on the forums?
[04:14] <thegladiator> yes it shoud be possible s_spiff
[04:15] <shirish> I'm trying to follow the steps given in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto
 ok I will do
[04:15] <s_spiff> ummmm...where is the stuff saved?
[04:15] <s_spiff> thegladiator,  as in where are the packages saved?
[04:15] <thegladiator> ask shirish , he seems to have done it all
[04:15] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: Ng: told something about Nasa's world wind running on linux. PLs if you know something help me
[04:15] <AIV> during the initial setup of ubuntu, I chose what screen resolutions I would use, and I chose too low, is it too late to change this?
[04:15] <shirish> nope stuck middle way
[04:15] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I need something like google earth
[04:15] <s_spiff> shirish, did u burn the stuff on to a cd?
[04:15] <thegladiator> s_spiff, i am a big expert
[04:15] <s_spiff>  achha.. so u coudn't?
[04:16] <s_spiff> huh?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i havent heard of it but goole can only help you
[04:16] <thegladiator> s_spiff, unless yoru hdd crashes or something , its not needed to burn deb's
[04:16] <gnomefreak> google even
[04:16] <shirish> not yet, some little stuff to be understood before going ahead.
[04:16] <thegladiator> s_spiff, the next version ie dapper will have newer stuff
[04:16] <shirish> the debs are at /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:16] <butcherbird> ubotu tell AIV about resolution
[04:16] <s_spiff> arre thegladiator , i make mistakes..since me noob..
[04:16] <shirish> dapper is 3 months away
[04:16] <brenner> s_spiff: that's why you should make a seperate partition for /home
[04:17] <s_spiff> and when i don't know how to correct it
[04:17] <s_spiff>  i just make a new fresh install
[04:17] <thegladiator> s_spiff, and google doesnt crash like windows does , so there is no real need to burn those deb's mayb you can make 3rd party debs and burn
[04:17] <s_spiff> i have a whole 80 gb hdd..
[04:17] <thegladiator> sorry linux* not google :)
[04:17] <s_spiff>  hehe
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I can not tell you that how many times I have tried to search for it. This is one of the most important programs. Can somebody make a clone or something of google earth
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> or Nasa's world wind
[04:17] <thegladiator> s_spiff, how many mb's have you downloaded so far ?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, worldwind is very very similar to celeste
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> or Encarta's Interactive World Atlas
[04:18] <shirish> then use ubuntu live cd & use parted to do any partitioning stuff. Read the man's first
[04:18] <s_spiff>  something like 640 mb for KDE , another 200+ gb for other various updates and setups
[04:18] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I need country maps not space simulating
[04:18] <gnomefreak> http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=worldwind+for+linux&btnG=Google+Search
[04:18] <s_spiff>  200+mb
[04:18] <shirish> C-O-L-T first do an apt-get update
[04:18] <s_spiff>  not gb!
[04:18] <AIV> ubotu, yes please, tell me about resolution
[04:18] <ubotu> Wish i knew, AIV
[04:18] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, than worldwind may not be any help to you but look at it
[04:18] <butcherbird> !resolution
[04:18] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:18] <s_spiff> ubotu, tell AIV about resolution
[04:18] <shirish>  then do a apt-cache search & 'keyword'
[04:18] <thegladiator> s_spiff, ok :p... i dont know about deb archiving actually
[04:18] <thegladiator> yes
[04:19] <phreak97> someone explain what i type when it says: then use the usual commands:
[04:19] <phreak97>  ./configure --prefix /usr
[04:19] <s_spiff> AIV check your pm's
[04:19] <s_spiff>  ok..will check it out.
[04:19] <mwe> phreak97: that wont work
[04:20] <shirish> phreak97 it's a kind of flag/condition that u're giving when u're compiling things from source
[04:20] <mwe> phreak97: ./configure --prefix=/usr would though
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I like celestia it is good, but I need a program like google earth or Encarta World Atlas. I have Encarta Worrld Atlas 2000 but I can not run it with wine
[04:20] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, ask in #linux !
[04:20] <mwe> C-O-L-T: I don't think there is such a thing for linux
[04:21] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, or #gentoo if you cant find help here
[04:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eww gentoo
[04:21] <thegladiator> and yes tell them you are on gentoo :)
[04:21] <shirish> C-O-L-T perhaps then u could support celestia to become better like whatever u like, file bugs & enjoy
[04:21] <thegladiator> lol@shirish
[04:21] <shirish> gladiator, who's the big boss around
[04:21] <gnomefreak> wait a min guys let me read this
[04:22] <douglas> How do I switch the default automake version?
[04:22] <lee_> hey boys (n gals) how do i...get firestarter to load at startup with gnome...without clicking the save settings tab at logout?
[04:22] <thegladiator> shirish, there are many . just ask once in a while . sure you will get help
[04:22] <theine> douglas, sudo update-alternatives --config automake
[04:22] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, read this http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2005092802026OSDVNT
[04:22] <s_spiff> i think there is a option for that
[04:22] <Whistler> hello
[04:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey Whistler
[04:23] <goki-> lee_, AFAIK firestarter will startup with the network device, do you mean the firestarter GUI specifically?
[04:23] <soundray> C-O-L-T, have you tried World Wind in wine?
[04:23] <Whistler> my friend wants to install ubuntu, but his pc doesnt support boot from cd-rom
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ww does both stars and ground
[04:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Whistler about smartboot
[04:23] <goki-> Whistler, is it ancient?
[04:23] <thegladiator> Whistler, thats nto really possible
[04:23] <s_spiff> Whistler, did u check out the bio's setup?
[04:23] <s_spiff>  check if his 1st boot device is CDROM
[04:23] <Whistler> ye thats ancient
[04:23] <thegladiator> Whistler, most of the post 95 BIOS supports CD ROM booting
[04:23] <shirish> anybody knows how to make custom repositery?
[04:23] <s_spiff> then.. is his cd rom working?
[04:23] <lee_> Goki-, well i installed it but the icon that appears in the top right hand corner is no longer there after a reboot
[04:24] <thegladiator> even Windows cannot be istaled without booting from CD!
[04:24] <s_spiff>  or is his cd right?
[04:24] <Ng> thegladiator: sure it can, you can make boot floppies from a windows cd
[04:24] <s_spiff> hehe
[04:24] <soundray> !smartboot
[04:24] <ubotu> smartboot is, like, totally, If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:24] <thegladiator> Ng,yes in my opinion thats only theoreticalstuff ...i mean windows was designed to be insta;led from cd
[04:25] <Whistler> ok ill tell him to chech again
[04:25] <goki-> lee_, firestarter itself should still be running, its just that the GUI for it isn't.
[04:25] <thegladiator> Whistler, check the BIOS , change boot options
[04:25] <butcherbird> Whistler: take a look at smartboot as well
[04:25] <Ng> thegladiator: well it's not just theoretical because you can actually do it, so it's real, but i know what you mean
[04:25] <goki-> lee_, I'm afraid I don't know how to get the GUI to start with gnome, but it should be the same as for any other app you want to run on gnome startup
[04:25] <thegladiator> Ng, yep
[04:25] <Whistler> k
[04:25] <shirish> gladiator, its not theorotical I know of many thin clients which run of smart-boot kind of functionality, network-aware
[04:26] <soundray> !tell Whistler about smartboot
[04:26] <mwe> gnomefreak: the project you referred to seems to be limited to ms windows like goggle earth :|
[04:26] <thegladiator> i see
[04:26] <lee_> ok goki thanks...another question...i noticed on ubuntu (and debian) there is no rc.local file so i cant add commands/scripts to be run at boot up...is there another file i can add to that will do this for me?
[04:26] <soundray> lee_, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:26] <s_spiff> yo what to use to burn cd/DVD?
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, If you select the Sessions tool from 'System --> Preferences --> Sessions', you can enable any program to start automatically when you login to your account.
[04:27] <butcherbird> s_spiff: k3b is probably the best app
[04:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff, k3b wud be perfect
[04:27] <jono> hi all
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, just found that ^
[04:27] <s_spiff> ok..
[04:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> he4y jono
[04:27] <jono> what is the default cd playing app in dapper?
[04:27] <shirish> lee_there is something called BUM boot-up manager that u can download & install & use the same GUI-based.
[04:27] <s_spiff> boss..but thats for KDE na?
[04:27] <lee_> thanks goki! and soundray
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, yes there is, I can't remember where it is :)
[04:27] <Slatibart> Q: ubuntu 5.04 had these nice unoffical addon cd with all these nice missing programms . where can i find an image for 5.10
[04:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff, no it works in gnome also
[04:27] <butcherbird> s_spiff: yes but if you apt-get it it will install necessary stuff. about 50 mb
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, ah cool someoen else knew :)
[04:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff, i was using k3b in my gnome also
[04:28] <s_spiff> crap!!! 50 mb..i hate downloading!
[04:28] <jono> hey PuMpErNiCkLe
[04:28] <s_spiff> achha chal...installing it right now
[04:28] <s_spiff>  thank..
[04:28] <thegladiator> s_spiff, just see in syanptic how much it wud need....first
[04:28] <s_spiff>  now have to go back to studies
[04:28] <s_spiff>  about 10.38 mb being downloaded
[04:28] <thegladiator> chal bye
[04:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jono: Same as in Breezy, I think.
[04:28] <s_spiff> the gui..and the lin
[04:29] <gib8> i get a new apt-source and now apt-get update means there is no publickey available? does i need the key to get it worked?
[04:29] <s_spiff>  thegladiator , feels good when someone says 'chal' bye in these channels
[04:29] <s_spiff>  cya ppl
[04:29] <thegladiator> eh he :)
[04:29] <thegladiator> cya
[04:29] <shirish> gladiator, spiff is also indian?
[04:29] <bart_> does anybody knows where to get DC++ linux version?
[04:29] <lee_> thnks guys
[04:29] <thegladiator> shirish, yep
[04:30] <nalioth> bart_: in the repos is a console and gui dc client
[04:30] <nalioth> !info dcgui
[04:31] <ubotu> dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB
[04:31] <nalioth> bart_: enable the universe repos and grab it with apt-get or synaptic
[04:31] <shirish> I'm sure out of 623 people present here there is somebody who can answer my query, the question is who?
[04:31] <shirish> looking to make a custom cd repositery, cherry-picked packages.
[04:32] <bhearsum> ever since i upgraded to dapper i've had a couple paticular things not work. first of all, gaim crashes when i login to an msn account. secondly, xfce4-panel crashes whenever it starts, gives me a glibc error
[04:32] <TTilus> shirish: could be that she isnt listening right now  :)
[04:32] <nalioth> shirish: what question is that?
[04:32] <shirish> who is she?
[04:32] <nalioth> bhearsum: dapper is a development version, it's not meant for use.
[04:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bhearsum: Report the bugs to the ubuntu devs and wait for Dapper to stabilize? :)
[04:33] <bhearsum> i didn't even know dapper was testing, heh.
[04:33] <TTilus> shirish: dunno, you just sounded so sure that there _is_ one  :)
[04:33] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: there is a program but being a new user in Linux it's too complex for me to install. I have given to one of my friend who is at home in Linux but it was hard to him also. Can you try the program? Would you try to install it under ubuntu cause I think a lot of people would like to use it
[04:33] <butcherbird> bhearsum: you might need to upgrade xfce4 to latest version manually
[04:33] <bhearsum> is there a bug tracking system for it?
[04:33] <shirish> o.k. bhearsum :- if u're having issues preferably file the bug in bugzilla with whatever symptoms u're gettomg
[04:34] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: The link is this http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[04:34] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: at gentoo they told me the same program
[04:34] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: they said that it is hard to install
[04:34] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, i can understand your problem . but i am sorry at the momet , I cant afford to install the program due to some other per-occupations
[04:35] <thegladiator> just keep asking in and around( dont spam) you's get someone to help
[04:35] <shirish> sure, first look at what gaim version is being used, then either at bugzilla.ubuntu.com or bugzilla.gnome whichever is appropriate or both.
[04:35] <ccc_> nalioth: hopefully linuxdc++ (i suppose that was what bart_ was asking about) will be added in the repos sometime soon, as it is getting pretty stable and is superior to dcgui/valknut
[04:35] <AIV> ubotu, thanks for the help with my screen resolution
[04:35] <ubotu> AIV: no problem
[04:35] <AIV> I was able to fix it that way
[04:35] <Slatibart> Q: ubuntu 5.04 had these nice unoffical addon cd with all these nice missing programms . where can i find an image for 5.10. the computer has only a modem line, so synaptic is not an option
[04:36] <Slatibart> universe and so on repositories
[04:36] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: If you know somebody then please tell to him or her, I think that I am not the only person interested in this. I am asking this question for a week but everybody tells me that there is a guide to how to install it. But the guide is nothing.
[04:36] <Slatibart> with 5.04 it was nice
[04:36] <Slatibart> just entering the cd, and nearly everything was automatic
[04:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: Being a windows user I can not simply install things, you can not tell to a user who it is using windows for 12 years that it is easy to install
[04:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: it is easy to install a deb file
[04:37] <Slatibart> with the guide it's a lot more work
[04:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: but not a java file
[04:37] <thegladiator> true I understand
[04:37] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, sure it is use java debs
[04:38] <pinkisntwell> if I don't install gnome and go with xfce, how do I configure networking?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> enable multiverse adn install java from there too :)
[04:38] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, try pasting the exaclt nature in paste bin and then try out
[04:38] <thegladiator> he has java installed , thats what he said
[04:38] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: It requires java to install jar files of the program. I installed java from seveas repository but it still does not work
[04:38] <shirish> Slatibart : the guy who was supporting the Unofficial 5.04 is sick or something & in-between nobody has shown the initiative to take up the work for everybody.
[04:38] <gib8> what happens when i use LVM and have 2 HDs on the first is a part of home and on the second, when one disk is destroyed? can i get to the data of the other disk or r they lost like in some raidmodes?
[04:38] <mika0800> Ubuntu Hoary: I need to do "modprobe 3c509" to make my network work. Where should I put that command to run it automatically at every reboot and as early as possible in the boot process ?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, did you enable it?