[00:02] <rogerthebird> hello
[00:02] <rogerthebird> hi wzin
[00:03] <dman777> hi, i am trying to reinstall nginx along with getting the stock configuration nginx.conf file. i tried apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install nginx but i still do not have a nginx.conf file
[00:08] <dman777> i do a apt-get purge nginx and it saids it removes nginx but when i do which nginx it shows it's still installed
[00:10] <jiuj9> i support vivisection
[00:11] <Andres_Rama> hello?
[00:11] <hylian> Andres_Rama: hello
[00:11] <Andres_Rama> windows n00b here. Why in the hell uis the ubuntu install an iso file
[00:12] <jiuj9> so you are new to windows?
[00:12] <Andres_Rama> lol
[00:12] <Andres_Rama> no
[00:12] <jiuj9> don't worry, it's quite user friendly
[00:12] <Andres_Rama> just not very familiar with Linux
[00:12] <hylian> Andres_Rama: it allows you to put it on the media of your choice, i.e. burning it to cd/dvd, or putting it on a usb thumb drive...
[00:12] <jiuj9> then why to use it? go back to windows
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> because it has a lot of advantadges
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> one of which is the apt-get install command
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> i have used ubuntu tocode before
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> i still do
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> i have it on my laptop
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> but when i tried to install on my desktop
[00:13] <Andres_Rama> it wouldnt work
[00:13] <FloodBot1> Andres_Rama: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <hylian> Andres_Rama: well, the first question would be how did you mount it, did you put it on a dvd? usb thumb drive? did you get the 32 bit or the 64 bit version?
[00:15] <jiuj9> Andres_Rama, your questions are annoiyng, switch to windows and don't bother us anymore
[00:15] <hylian> jiuj9: he left
[00:15] <jiuj9> good
[00:18] <hylian> anyone use irssi like me?
[00:21] <Laogeodritt> I'm trying to build ntopng from source (want to take the new release for a test run, apt has an older ntop) and I'm having problems building the deb package from the ntopng-provided ubuntu configure/make. The script is running "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -d".  "dpkg-deb" is outputting to ../ntopng_1.0_i386.deb but then dpkg-genchanges is called and complains: "error: cannot fstat file
[00:21] <Laogeodritt> ../ntopng_1.0-_i386.deb". Any ideas how I might fix this or where to look? I'm not too familiar with dpkg... [This is on ubuntu server; however, the issue seems general enough to ask here.]
[00:23] <hylian> Laogeodritt: never messed with it, but let me see if i can dig up that error and get an idea what direction to look...
[00:25] <Laogeodritt> hylian: thanks. It seems like a misconfig of ntopng's build somewhere (outputting to one filename and searching for another), but I have no idea where it would be configured and my attempts at Googling haven't brought much up.
[00:27] <hylian> Laogeodritt: it looks like we are missing something here. the file name gives it away.. ntopng_1.0-_i386.deb should be something like ntopng_1.0-1_i386.deb. not certain why ths is happening though
[00:28] <Laogeodritt> hylian: hm, okay. Up to that error it generates an ntopng_1.0_i386.deb file (plus ntopng_1.0-_i386.changes and ntopng_1.0-.tar.gz) ... no other deb
[00:29] <hylian> Laogeodritt: yeah, the file name it should want to generate would be something like this: ntopng_1.0.1-6686_i386.deb
[00:30] <hylian> Laogeodritt: it looks like what goes after the - is perhaps a version number... i know it's not archetecture, that's the i386 part... not much help, sorry.
[00:32] <slugbug> how does one move the dir of /var/www to another harddrive in the linux box
[00:32] <jboii> hi
[00:32] <hylian> jboii: hello again
[00:32] <slugbug> if my OS drive is only 60gb and I have a additional drive of 500gb I want to move the dir to the 500gb drive
[00:32] <jboii> is it possible to theme rhythmbox?
[00:33] <hylian> slugbug: hmm, never had anyone ask that before... i could try and dig up some info
[00:34] <qin> slugbug: change document root in web server?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> slugbug:  mount the partion on the other drive to /var/www would be one way
[00:34] <slugbug> yes
[00:34] <hylian> jboii: a quick check says no. Rhythmbox was not made to be theme-able.
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> or put all of /var/ on the other drive
[00:35] <slugbug> I've read stuff that says to go in and change the ini file but I ended up ruining the boot
[00:35] <lazers> sbcl never
[00:35] <jboii> is there a music player that has a nice theme ?
[00:36] <foriamroot> depends on your definition of nice
[00:36] <Laogeodritt> hylian: anyway, thanks for looking. I'll keep trying to figure this out.
[00:36] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[00:36] <qin> jboii: amarok looks posh
[00:36] <lazers> (Sorry. Wrong command).
[00:36] <hylian> Laogeodritt: Dr_Willis is much more afluent in all this, you should re-ask him
[00:37] <ShapeShifter499> although my system, a netbook server, should auto login at boot it has a log in prompt on the connected screen, a tv, why?
[00:37] <ShapeShifter499> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 32bit on this machine
[00:39] <skinux> Wow. That was weird. Ubuntu started complaining hard disk was full, deleting some stuff and restarted and a lot of settings seem to have been reset to default
[00:39] <foriamroot> anything in ~
[00:39] <foriamroot> did you delete anything in ~
[00:39] <nisstyre> skinux: laptop?
[00:39] <skinux> Yeah.
[00:39] <nisstyre> skinux: it could be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1196155
[00:39] <skinux> to laptop
[00:40] <foriamroot> server install or desktop install
[00:40] <skinux> desktop
[00:40] <nisstyre> it most likely is that bug tbh
[00:40] <foriamroot> ^
[00:40] <nisstyre> if it's not a laptop then it probably is not that bug though
[00:41] <nisstyre> well, it could be
[00:41] <nisstyre> skinux: what files did you delete?
[00:45] <skinux> Damn. It deleted a lot of stuff.
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> ruining the boot by changeing a single file? make backups of the origial file - so you can change it back. ;)
[00:45] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know why I'm logged in on the main screen but not on a connected screen (a tv)?
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  a server normally dosent need a login display manager/gui. or the need to auto login.
[00:46] <nisstyre> skinux: can you see if you have a lot of huge log files under /var/log?
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  what login manager are you using? Lightdm?
[00:46] <foriamroot> he did say server which confused me until he said its a desktop install
[00:46] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, this is a regular  desktop install with added server stuff
[00:46] <nisstyre> that stupid intel bug bit me on my laptop and I ended up with a missing grub.cfg somehow
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> lightdm has settings (you can set in the users config tool) to select what user to auto login.
[00:46] <nisstyre> and a 3 gb messages.log
[00:47] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, I'm set to auto login, I see my desktop and unity on the main netbook screen
[00:47] <ShapeShifter499> my connected screen shows a log in
[00:47] <Abbey21> Hey
[00:47] <Xerofyte> Is there any channel or FreeNode which tells about latest softwares for Ubuntu/linux
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  you mean a CONSOLE   'login;'  >
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  set the monitors to clone the X display if you want to see X on both perhaps?
[00:48] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, just the regular GUI login
[00:48] <foriamroot> if its a console login think its just the standard login he is seeing
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  then you really need to clarify what youi are seeing exactly.. you said it auto logins on one monitor.. but it shows the login screen (lightdm?) on one monitor? that would sound like the 2~ seperate X displays setting  you can use for some multi-mnonitor setups
[00:49] <foriamroot> agreed
[00:50] <foriamroot> set to mirror not seperate x
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> turn off the TV ;0
[00:51] <Squishy> Hi everyone.
[00:51] <foriamroot> Hello
[00:52] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, foriamroot wait so how do I fix that
[00:52] <Squishy> New to Ubuntu/Linux in general so bear with me if i say/do something stupid.
[00:52] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[00:52] <foriamroot> what are you using to manage your graphics? nvidia? compiz?
[00:53] <foriamroot> for me its in nvidia-settings
[00:53] <foriamroot> your mileage may vary
[00:53] <ShapeShifter499> foriamroot, this is a cruddy intel atom based acer aspire one netbook
[00:54] <ShapeShifter499> foriamroot, I was planning on running XBMC on this
[00:54] <ShapeShifter499> up until recently I never even used the VGA port
[00:54] <foriamroot> why xbmc?
[00:55] <foriamroot> you can try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457931
[00:55] <foriamroot> a quick google pulled that one up
[00:55] <pack^> wonder how steam will run on mer?
[00:55] <foriamroot> i thought it was staying with X for now?
[00:55] <foriamroot> Steam OS anyway
[00:56] <pack^> will change in March 14
[00:56] <foriamroot> gotcha
[00:56] <foriamroot> That I hadnt heard yet
[00:56] <finchd> pack^: wonder *if* steam will run on *mir*?
[00:56] <pack^> good question
[00:56] <pack^> or wayland
[00:57] <foriamroot> xmir?
[00:58] <strider_> I need to do a project for a server class I'm taking but I can't think of any ideas for the project. The project must require two servers to function correctly, but I can't think of anything. Could anyone give me any ideas?
[00:58] <foriamroot> requires 2 servers to function?
[00:58] <foriamroot> connecting two LAN's via a VPN tunnel
[00:58] <foriamroot> i.e. 2 remote offices
[00:58] <foriamroot> fairly easy
[00:58] <jboii_> is there an app that can search mp3 files and movies to download?
[00:59] <jrib> strider_: put db on one server, web server on other, done
[00:59] <foriamroot> as in?
[00:59] <foriamroot> jboii_: piracy is a no no
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  so what do you want on the vga port? you have described whats going on.. but not what you want.
[00:59] <foriamroot> he wants dual display *i think* to play movies on his TV
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> then the answer is - use the monitors tool to set the dual displays how you want. ;) that will be the answer for most cases
[01:00] <strider_> foriamroot: jrib: it has to last 12 weeks (for the full implimentation), so I don't want it to be too easy. Also, it would be preferable if both systems were on the same network already (I'm probably going to just virtualize them on a box I have). I was thinking of something like a condor cluster, but that might be too complex for some of my teammates, and it would be almost poitless to do it with only two systems
[01:01] <foriamroot> it would be
[01:01] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, I opened the display tool in system settings and I've now lost all output
[01:01] <jrib> strider_: this is a question more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <strider_> jrib: ah, sorry I'll go there instead
[01:01] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, I wanted to run a media center like XBMC
[01:01] <strider_> completely forgot about that channel
[01:02] <LjL> jrib, my credit card number is 2394-2384-9658-2394 365, can you look in your logs if there's any trick to use it to buy things from Ubuntu One?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  you  mean 'run xbmc on the 2nd monitor (tv), while having a normal desktop on the built in lcd'  ? If so. please be more detailed like that. ;)
[01:02] <jrib> LjL: sure one second, but first there's a book i've been meaning to pick up
[01:02] <foriamroot> lol
[01:02] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, the main screen can be off or blank, that isn't needed, the other screen (tv) should have the XMBC on it
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> ShapeShifter499:  tried the monitor-selection/toggle keys on the netbook?  fn-Fsomthing here on mine.
[01:04] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, wait a second
[01:05] <jmgk> hiya Dr_Willis
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> moo. ;
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> ;
[01:06] <foriamroot> hmmm
[01:06] <Squishy> Sorry I don't mean to rudely butt in here but could someone recommend an easier to use irc client? I'm on weechat and totally lost. thanks.
[01:06] <foriamroot> irssi
[01:06] <foriamroot> :D
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> i like weechat. :) Im using it now.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> you do want to read its docs however. ;)
[01:07] <jmgk> bleh :P
[01:07] <foriamroot> im a simple person so i prefer irssi
[01:07] <Squishy> I read them. looked like gibberish to me.
[01:07] <foriamroot> to each his own
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> man up! :)
[01:07] <kaltag> xchat
[01:07] <omar_> Hi!!!
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> for a gui client - xchat is popular.. and plkease read its docs/faq also. ;)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> weechat does have a gui i recall. but its not in the repos  (yet) i saw it mentioned at the weechat hojmepage/downloads
[01:10] <finchd> Squishy: quassel for IRC only or pidgin is IM of all kinds, there's the IRC plugins for Firefox & thunderbird also.
[01:10] <Squishy> I'm going to try irssi. I used icechat on windows a lot. That's all i'm used to. used Chatzilla as well. Not a big fan but seems easier that weechat just now.
[01:11] <foriamroot> or just use a web client
[01:11] <jmgk> what do you prefer for coding?
[01:11] <jmgk> desktop or laptop guys?
[01:11] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_Willis, that didn't work
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> i perfer to let others do the coding.
[01:11] <jmgk> :P
[01:11] <foriamroot> lmao
[01:11] <Squishy> Thanks finchd. i'll give that a look at.
[01:14] <orated_> Hi! How can I extract/cut an image from a video file?
[01:14] <orated_> any GUI based software for that?
[01:14] <foriamroot> print screen
[01:14] <foriamroot> or ffmpeg to extract the entire video / or clip to still
[01:15] <orated_> without using printscreen :) Anything like ImageGrab?
[01:15] <baphomet1> is anyone here familiar with connecting an ubuntu client using vpnc to an ipsec vpn setup with openswan?
[01:15] <foriamroot> baphomet1: whats the issue
[01:15] <foriamroot> one sec orated_
[01:16] <baphomet1> foriamroot: can't get it to connect.  windows, osx and iOS clients connect fine.  the ubuntu client is the only one that will not connect
[01:16] <Squishy> orated you can use virtualdub under wine for that or avidemux
[01:16] <foriamroot> avidemux is what i was thinking of
[01:16] <Tex_Nick> orated_:  VLC allows frame screen captures
[01:16] <foriamroot> whats the error baphomet1? in the log of the vpn server
[01:16] <Squishy> oh i forgot about that. I never use that feature of VLC
[01:16] <foriamroot> should tell you why
[01:17] <baphomet1> foriamroot: hmm.  I have only been looking at the client.  let me see if I can find the logs on the server
[01:17] <foriamroot> me either. i have used ffmpeg to get stills from video
[01:18] <foriamroot> check /var/log/ think its auth.log maybe
[01:18] <baphomet1> foriamroot: let me have a look.
[01:18] <foriamroot> have fun
[01:18] <Squishy> i'd be lost trying to do that. Is staxrip compatible with Ubuntu?
[01:18] <Tex_Nick> ffmpeg is also what i use ... it's not GUI though
[01:18] <foriamroot> meh gui is overrated lol
[01:18] <Tex_Nick> lol ;-)
[01:19] <baphomet1> foriamroot: let me try to connect the client to the server and see what happens.  I haven't tried in a bit.
[01:19] <Tex_Nick> it's what orated_ requested though
[01:19] <foriamroot> good point Tex
[01:19] <foriamroot> go for it baphomet1
[01:22] <Squishy> orated you could also try pitivi. I'm not 100% on that though.
[01:22] <baphomet1> foriamroot: noting in auth.log
[01:23] <foriamroot> really?
[01:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yep
[01:23] <Braden`> Hello
[01:23] <reisio> 'lo Braden`
[01:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I am thinking this is a client side issue
[01:24] <Braden`> I am not sure where to ask this, so I will try here.  How does Facebook/etc set up their DNS so that if one server goes down the domain gets redirected to their other servers?  Should I have a server set up with BIND to handle nameserver requests rather than relying on ISP provided name services?
[01:24] <foriamroot> or a cert issue
[01:25] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I don't understand how it could be a cert issue if I can connect windows, osx and iOS clients just fine.
[01:25] <foriamroot> different cert for each client?
[01:25] <foriamroot> or psk?
[01:25] <baphomet1> foriamroot: psk
[01:25] <foriamroot> my misunderstanding
[01:25] <linuxR> hello, I discover total system freezes when working with eclipse (ubuntu 12.04 with all updates installed). can someone help me to analyze this? thanks
[01:25] <foriamroot> then def. client if other clients can connect
[01:26] <Squishy> Ahh nice. Quassel seems much easier to be using.
[01:26] <baphomet1> foriamroot: any suggestions? :D
[01:26] <orated_> Squishy: Is avidemux gui based or cli based?
[01:26] <foriamroot> orated_: both
[01:26] <foriamroot> baphomet1: one sec
[01:27] <baphomet1> foriamroot: thanks! :D
[01:27] <Squishy> it's gui based. Everything i recommended is.
[01:27] <reisio> orated_: ffmpeg has a pretty fast way if you just need a solid block from the middle of someplace
[01:27] <Squishy> sudo apt-get install avidemux.
[01:27] <Squishy> That's all you need to do.
[01:27] <orated_> So it can help easily fetch image sequence out of a video file?
[01:27] <reisio> yup
[01:27] <orated_> Okay
[01:27] <orated_> Thanks
[01:28] <Squishy> it's been a few years since i used it. I use virtualdub.
[01:28] <foriamroot> http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=using:command_line_usage
[01:28] <foriamroot> avidemux is both
[01:28] <reisio> ffmpeg -i input -ss 00:01:30 -t 00:01:00 %d.jpg (would, for example, start 1m30s in, and dump each frame for 1m
[01:28] <Squishy> I would honestly recommend virtualdub and wine over anything else mate.
[01:28] <Squishy> You can trust me. I'm from Scotland.
[01:28] <reisio> ) :p
[01:28] <reisio> I wouldn't even use virtualdub inside an actual Windows install :p
[01:29] <Squishy> Why not?
[01:29] <foriamroot> baphomet1: and no error was returned on the client side?
[01:29] <pfifo> hello world
[01:29] <baphomet1> foriamroot: let me gather the info
[01:29] <xmetal> Vdub looks ok and i think it has some good ways of editing videos but on windows when i got to save the file product it crashes a bit
[01:29] <xmetal> lol
[01:29] <reisio> pfifo: 'lo
[01:30] <reisio> Squishy: not remotely as useful/reliable as ffmpeg
[01:30] <orated_> Squishy: foriamroot reisio Also, there is an option of converting a video file to image sequence using OpenShot video editor but it probably seems to create image sequence of entire video with less than 1s gap
[01:31] <foriamroot> to do the entire video to still with < 1 sec gap use fmpeg
[01:31] <foriamroot> ffmpeg*
[01:32] <foriamroot> otherwise use one of the aforementioned softwares
[01:32] <foriamroot> i cant type
[01:32] <Tex_Nick> hmmm ... i loved virtualdub ... didn't realize it worked okunder wine ... thanks for the thought on that Squishy :)
[01:32] <ax562> hi
[01:32]  * reisio headdesks
[01:32] <reisio> ax562: hibari
[01:32] <reisio> hi, eben :p
[01:33] <baphomet1> foriamroot: all it says is "vpnc: no response from target"
[01:34] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I have searched that exact error and most of the threads all go unanswered.  I have seen some suggestions about how to resolve it, but none of them work for me
[01:34] <foriamroot> is the ip right?
[01:34] <foriamroot> means the server didnt respond or timed out
[01:34] <foriamroot> ttl exceeded, etc
[01:34] <Squishy> no worries nick.
[01:34] <baphomet1> foriamroot: it is using dynamic dns
[01:35] <foriamroot> check that your dyndns is updated
[01:35] <foriamroot> mine doesnt update right sometimes
[01:35] <_DM> couldn't you connect directly to the IP rather than going through dns
[01:35] <Xerofyte> Can anyone please tell me How can I install Ubuntu Tweak on 12.04 LTS
[01:35] <foriamroot> it changes
[01:35] <_DM> or do I have no clue what I'm talking about
[01:35] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I just tried connecting to the VPN from a different client (not linux) and it connected fine.
[01:35] <foriamroot> he would have to redo the config all the time
[01:35] <Squishy> the only time vdub ever crashed on me was if i tried to encode a video with incompatible parameters.
[01:36] <foriamroot> firewall / iptables?
[01:36] <foriamroot> something is stopping it from communicating
[01:36] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I agree that something is stopping it and it has to be on the client side.
[01:36] <foriamroot> it is
[01:36] <foriamroot> as in it is client side
[01:36] <foriamroot> check the iptables on the client
[01:37] <foriamroot> and check ufw(?)
[01:37] <Tex_Nick> Squishy:  i'll give it a try on wine ... i used it a lot on win xp
[01:37] <baphomet1> foriamroot: ufw should be disabled.  I just had it spit out a verbose log.  hang on
[01:37] <foriamroot> nice
[01:38] <Squishy> XP? i remember that...ahh nostalgia
[01:38] <Tex_Nick> lol ;-)
[01:38] <foriamroot> meh xp was garbage
[01:38] <foriamroot> one of my first exploits i found though
[01:39] <foriamroot> at XX:XX /interactive "cmd.exe"
[01:39] <foriamroot> loved the broken task scheduling in windows
[01:39] <Squishy> i used it for a while after win7 came out before i made the move
[01:39] <Tex_Nick> hmmm i kinda thought it was one of microsoft's better OS's ?
[01:39] <foriamroot> nah more backdoors than a whore house
[01:39] <foriamroot> jus sayin
[01:39] <Squishy> lol i'm using that expression from now on
[01:40] <foriamroot> lol
[01:40] <qin> is not like off-topic or something?
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> ok ... i have to agree there
[01:40] <TheLordOfTime> how do I terminate a zombie process?
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> but hey windows aint linux !!!
[01:40] <foriamroot> find then kill
[01:40] <foriamroot> kill `pgrep name_of_zombie`
[01:40] <qin> TheLordOfTime: you cannot kill zombie, can yaa?
[01:40] <xmetal> shoot it in the head
[01:41] <foriamroot> ^
[01:41] <cryptack> lol
[01:41] <xmetal> ... oh zombie PROCESS
[01:41] <xmetal> n/m
[01:41] <foriamroot> lol
[01:41] <baphomet1> hahah that was the best response ever
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> qin, that's not helpful.
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> xmetal, same thing, not helpful
[01:41] <TheLordOfTime> let's focus on SUPPORt and not offtopic, 'kay?
[01:42] <foriamroot> TheLordOfTime: kill `pgrep name_of_zombie`
[01:42]  * xmetal laughs
[01:42] <foriamroot> run in terminal
[01:42] <reisio> technically they're already dead
[01:42] <qin> TheLordOfTime: Well, that is why such process is called zombie ;)
[01:42] <cryptack> foriamroot: I thought you had to use a -9
[01:42] <foriamroot> ?
[01:42] <foriamroot> a 9
[01:42] <foriamroot> gotcha
[01:42] <foriamroot> lol
[01:42] <FloodBot1> foriamroot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <xmetal> if a process was "alive" your computer could get up and run right off your desk
[01:42] <jj1234> hi, trying to work out some SGX drivers and I'm a little confused, anyone know how glxinfo could report "direct rendering: yes" but still say it's using a software rasterizer?
[01:43] <foriamroot> Anything you say (ir)COPer!
[01:43] <xmetal> brb ... looking for "the best" url shortener (FIrefox addon)
[01:44] <SchrodingersScat> xmetal: I keep a net around my desk for processes trying to kill themselves in that way.
[01:44] <baphomet1> foriamroot: shoot.  having to redo this and have it output to a file.  the verbose log is REALLY verbose haha
[01:44] <foriamroot> nice
[01:45] <xmetal> lol
[01:47] <Braden`> foriamroot:  An ircop is a person with global mode +O or +o (locop) with network wide discretion to re-route servers and disconnect clients.  Floodbot is a channop, not ircop.
[01:48] <foriamroot> i know what an op is
[01:48] <foriamroot> and founder . owner
[01:49] <foriamroot> mode +qaohv meh
[01:49] <foriamroot> i was pointing out the bot was +o
[01:50] <foriamroot> thats why (ir) was in () and not ir.
[01:51] <Braden`> :)
[01:51] <foriamroot> ;D
[01:51] <foriamroot> 6693 FTW!
[01:51] <qin> foriamroot: floodbot wanted to point out existence of ",.;" etc, in aproximation of "Enter" key.
[01:52] <foriamroot> Use to more "lax" channels. Sorry.
[01:52] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yeah…I can't make heads or tails of this log
[01:53] <foriamroot> pastebin if you don;t mide. After scrubbing of course.
[01:53] <foriamroot> don't mind* And scrub as in remove ip / hostname, etc.
[01:56] <LogicalDash> My computer docks with an Android tablet that is its display. As a display it works fine, but it's also supposed to be a touchscreen, and while Ubuntu can see the touch panel, it keeps disconnecting with status -71 right after connecting. What's this about?
[01:56] <baphomet1> foriamroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6173826/
[01:58] <pfifo> nothing like an informative log file
[01:58] <foriamroot> are the subnets the same at both locations? i.e. <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[01:58] <baphomet1> foriamroot: no.
[01:58] <baphomet1> foriamroot: it's not a problem with other clients though.
[01:59] <foriamroot> the same subnet at both locations isn't a problem?
[02:01] <baphomet1> foriamroot: Sorry to not be clear.  different subnets is no issue with other clients.
[02:01] <foriamroot> you need different subnets at the different locations. Same subnet causes issues with NAT traversal.
[02:02] <foriamroot> And you reserved enough addresses on the server?
[02:02] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yep.  I ran in to that.  changed my network scheme to compensate.
[02:02] <foriamroot> I had to as well when i set mine up.
[02:02] <baphomet1> foriamroot: only one client connecting.  that was the one I just tried to connect with.
[02:03] <foriamroot> How many addresses reserved? You just said the ohter client(s) were connecting no issue.
[02:03] <baphomet1> TBH I am not sure.  The iOS client I used to test the connection connected fine, then I disconnected it.
[02:04] <baphomet1> foriamroot: any way for me to check the amount of addresses reserved?
[02:04] <foriamroot> This looks like it is communicating just fine. i.e. It is receiving packets.
[02:04] <foriamroot> check your configuration file for openswan and look at the range of ip's
[02:05] <baphomet1> foriamroot: that is good.  now getting it connected is the issue
[02:06] <foriamroot> try restarting openswan service and then connecting with ubuntu without connecting the ios device
[02:06] <baphomet1> foriamroot: ok.  hang on
[02:08] <baphomet1> foriamroot: same results
[02:08] <foriamroot> really?
[02:08] <foriamroot> then i am at a loss
[02:09] <foriamroot> It looks like it is communicating just not receiving an address. Packets are being sent / received.
[02:09] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yeah.  this is typically how it has ended for most people :(.
[02:09] <foriamroot> No part of the exchange fails. Everything looks kosher.
[02:10] <baphomet1> foriamroot: good to know.  I wasn't sure it was actually getting that far
[02:11] <foriamroot> Looks like it is. It exchanges just fine and receives without error.
[02:11] <foriamroot> so IPsec is good.
[02:12] <foriamroot> You checked the config for authmode?
[02:12] <foriamroot> On the server and client>
[02:12] <baphomet1> foriamroot: I also tried to connect using my public IP, to take the ddns out of the equation and it still wouldn't connect.
[02:12] <baphomet1> foriamroot: on the client I modified the config file and set it to PSK.  how would I check it on the server? (I am sure it is PSK, but being sure doesn't hurt)
[02:13] <foriamroot> Not auth type but authmode. I.e. IKE Authmode hybrid.
[02:14] <baphomet1> yeah.  I just changed it from hybrid to psk
[02:14] <baphomet1> I left the IKE Authmode there
[02:14] <baphomet1> only changed the part that said "hybrid"
[02:14] <foriamroot> in the vpnc conf?
[02:14] <baphomet1> would the conf file for it on the server be in /etc/?
[02:16] <foriamroot> First how is the VPN setup? Assuming you are using L2TP/IPSec?
[02:17] <baphomet1> foriamroot: this I am not sure of.  I know it is IPSec.  Not sure if it is over L2TP or not.  This is running on ubuntu with Amahi.  I used the amahi ipsec one click install app to set it up.  that is why I don't have a lot of info.
[02:17] <foriamroot> L2TP is the "VPN" IPSec is the encryption.
[02:18] <genoobie> hey all
[02:18] <genoobie> trying to install clonezilla on a usb (i.e. make bootable)
[02:18] <genoobie> bbl
[02:18] <baphomet1> foriamroot: thanks!  I didn't know that.  in that case it is l2tp/ipsec for sure
[02:18] <foriamroot> Thats what I thought.
[02:19] <foriamroot> You need to change the vpnc.conf back to hybrid.
[02:19] <baphomet1> foriamroot: on the client?
[02:19] <foriamroot> Yes
[02:19] <foriamroot> vpnc is the client. openswan is the server
[02:19] <foriamroot> I hope anyway. Otherwise you have different issues,
[02:20] <baphomet1> foriamroot: that is how I usually run it.  I had to edit the conf file so I could push the output to a log file.  I typically set all this up using vpnc in network manager
[02:22] <foriamroot> So the same configuration has worked on other machines?
[02:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: well that is subjective.  I have not been able to get any linux client to connect.  I am able to get everything but linux clients to connect.  so if by config you mean settings as close as possible as to what I see in network manager, in that case, yes.
[02:23] <foriamroot> In the vpnc.conf file you should have the gateway, the ipsec secret, the authmode, then the username / password (if used)
[02:23] <baphomet1> foriamroot: yep
[02:24] <foriamroot> And you still can't connect?
[02:24] <baphomet1> foriamroot: nope.  that has been the issue all along.
[02:26] <foriamroot> Then I'm not sure what's going on. IPSec is working. vpnc isn't connecting.
[02:26] <foriamroot> I'll see what I can figure out.
[02:26] <foriamroot> bbl
[02:26] <baphomet1> foriamroot: thanks!
[02:26] <LogicalDash> Aight I posted to forums http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=146360
[02:27] <LogicalDash> oh, wrong window
[02:27] <LogicalDash> sorry
[02:28] <joe18> Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 520] bus-ID 01:00.0
[02:28] <joe18>            X.Org 1.13.3 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,nouveau) FAILED: vesa Resolution<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:28] <joe18>            GLX Renderer GeForce GT 520/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.44 Direct Rendering Yes
[02:35] <Guest55469> Is this a general linux/programming irc or is it specific to Ubuntu?
[02:36] <marloshouse> Guest55469, you mean like a c++ programming irc?
[02:36] <Guest55469> ya
[02:36] <marloshouse> cuz linux can be programmed in just about anthing
[02:36] <Guest55469> I meant linux OR programming, not linux programming
[02:37]  * xmetal scratches head
[02:38] <marloshouse> i guess to answer your question, then, I think this channel is mostly specific to ubuntu, though, you might ask the question and see what happens
[02:38] <Guest55469> I'm new to irc in general, so excuse me if I seem like a novice haha
[02:38] <Guest55469> for some reason ##c++ is not working
[02:38] <xmetal> !ask
[02:38] <xmetal>  hmm bot must be on break
[02:39] <xmetal> hmm @ a Csharp and cplusplus room  ##C++## ??
[02:39] <xmetal> lol
[02:40] <marloshouse> Guest55469, anyway, the key is to just ask and see what happens... since you're new
[02:40] <Guest55469> cool
[02:41] <Guest55469> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is this channel specifically for asking questions, or is it just a casual discussion channel?
[02:41] <marloshouse> Guest55469, is that your question?
[02:41] <Jayhawker07> ya
[02:41] <Flannel> Guest55469: It's for technical support.  For discussion, you're looking for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <Jayhawker07> I was guest55469, changed my nickname
[02:41] <marloshouse> this is a channel for asking questions
[02:42] <Jayhawker07> ok thanks!
[02:42]  * xmetal "headdesks"
[02:43] <marloshouse> i dd a drive that I lost a text file on, I think it was stomped on by dropbox.  I'm trying to scan the image now to see if i can find any of the missing text... what's the best tool to search for some text on a dd image file?
[02:46] <Guest38841> is ubuntu 100% virus safe
[02:46] <bluedogslim> Thats a good question
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> !security | Guest38841
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | Guest38841
[02:47] <Guest38841> thanks for the response everyone.
[02:48] <xmetal> !virus
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest38841: ubuntu is built very secure, but a healthy paranoia cant harm :p
[02:48]  * xmetal agrees with lotus
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest38841: read also about snort and rkhunter
[02:48] <xmetal> healthy is the keyword ... no need to walk around going "WHAT!? ... whats that!?"
[02:48] <xmetal> lol
[02:50] <marloshouse> just because i'm paranoid doesn't someone's not trying to hack in to my computer
[02:50] <Guest38841> thanks again. bye
[02:51] <marloshouse>  doesn't mean... i meant
[02:51] <marloshouse> something's up with my keyword, it skips entire words!
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> marloshouse: alot of automatic exploiting out there..so a healthy paranoia Is needed
[02:52] <bluedogslim> You need to be paranoid?
[02:52] <bluedogslim> Why?
[02:52] <bluedogslim> Just turn off your computer.
[02:52] <bluedogslim> and they can't get anything.
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> bluedogslim: well in reality we need to work with ubuntu online so..
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> bluedogslim: all the time online you can use it a safe way no?
[02:53] <bluedogslim> Is it hard to host your own cloud on ubuntu?
[02:53] <marloshouse> bluedogslim, opencloud
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim:  i recall there being an  opencloud service. :) not tried it
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !info opencloud
[02:54] <marloshouse> i've tried it
[02:54] <marloshouse> it works
[02:54] <marloshouse> i'm happy with it
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> isen there like 2 or 3 alternative 'personal cloud' serivvces out there?  i rarely need the things.
[02:55]  * lotuspsychje doesnt trust clouds online :p
[02:55] <xmetal> i am not a fan of clouds
[02:55] <xmetal> same here
[02:55] <bluedogslim> open cloud is good?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> i just store my comic books and e-books on them . so i can get to them from my tablets :) or phone
[02:55] <bluedogslim> Clouds are great.  You can have everything - everywhere.
[02:55] <bluedogslim> But - you gotta be careful what you keep on them :)
[02:56] <bluedogslim> I wondering how secure they are.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: i found a solarized/dark theme for my terminal the other day was pretty neat :p
[02:56] <xmetal> i have seen people with the bright idea of uploading backups they need if thier PC goes down TO clouds only ... my question is "if your PC is down (assuming its your only one) .. how the heck are you going to get the recovery data?"
[02:56] <marloshouse> xmetal, exactly the lecture i give my clients
[02:57] <bluedogslim> If you house your own cloud then you have no limit to the space.
[02:57] <bluedogslim> host.
[02:57] <xmetal> i mean if the cloud for non-critical stuff is one option and you ALSO have  backup "flash drives too"
[02:57] <xmetal> ok ok i can see that
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> if you can afford the HDs' ;)
[02:57] <marloshouse> hd are dirt cheap
[02:57] <xmetal> but not "cloud only" is my point
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> lets move this to offtopic guys
[02:57] <jmgk> hey Dr_Willis  do you have a custom built PC or?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> I got stuff on the cloud to make getting the stuff from my tablets or pcs easier
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  im on my raspberry-pi right now. ;)
[02:58] <bluedogslim> Dr_Willis - which cloud are you using?
[02:58] <jmgk> nice
[02:58] <bluedogslim> Thats sweet.  Rasberry pii
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !cloud
[02:58] <jmgk> Dr_Willis, care if I pm ya?
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim:  i got junnk on most all the common clouds. :)  im seeing Ubuntu One getting more and more 'supported' by my android apps as well. WHich is nice
[03:00] <marloshouse> i read a not so flattering article on the decline of ubuntu the other day
[03:00] <bluedogslim> Dr_willis - Sweet. Can you host the UEC cloud on standard install of 13.04 or do you need a server verision?
[03:00] <marloshouse> made it sound like there's a lot of infighting going on
[03:00] <marloshouse> within the organization
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim:   desktop setup should be able to run any services the service edition can.
[03:00] <xmetal> hmm i need to get on SpotChat and ask if version 16 of "that other distro" will be LTS
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> marloshouse: lets discuss such in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:03] <marloshouse> fair enough
[03:07] <bluedogslim> IS openstack also a cloud admin
[03:07] <bluedogslim> ?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> !openstack|bluedogslim,
[03:09] <cfhowlett> bluedogslim, http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/openstack
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> anyone seen one of those warnings? [WARNING:flash/platform/pepper/pep_module.cpp(63)] SANDBOXED
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> im browsing on chrome
[03:11] <xmetal> i have never liked any of the chrome "based" browsers here, so I dont know
[03:11] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, never seen it
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> maybe chrome got sandbox method for dangerous flash items?
[03:12] <qubits> Hey guys
[03:13] <qubits> I have a raid 1 set and on boot it says one disk is  a non raid memeber
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !raid|qubits,
[03:13] <qubits> So the array is in failed status
[03:13] <qubits> Thanks
[03:13] <cfhowlett> qubits, might also want to check in at #ubuntu-server
[03:19] <dinosaurvskitten> How can I disable 802.11n with the brcmsmac driver? It's incredibly flaky.
[03:19] <reisio> you need the driver for something else?
[03:19] <dinosaurvskitten> well yeah, for my wifi connection
[03:19] <dinosaurvskitten> I just want it to stick to 802.11g
[03:20] <dinosaurvskitten> I know some of the other wifi drivers have options to disable n specifically, but those don't seem to work with brcmsmac
[03:22] <reisio> dinosaurvskitten: is i open source?
[03:22] <reisio> it*
[03:24] <dinosaurvskitten> reisio: yes
[03:24] <mojtaba> hi
[03:25] <reisio> dinosaurvskitten: that should make it pretty simple, then
[03:25] <reisio> mojtaba: heyo
[03:25] <mojtaba> happy freedom software day
[03:25] <reisio> is that today?
[03:25] <reisio> or every day? :)
[03:25] <mojtaba> reisio: That was yesterday. :)
[03:26] <mojtaba> you are right
[03:26] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, I'm in China.  Slipped my mind as it's not on the calendar.  :)
[03:26] <reisio> yesterday the 29th?
[03:26] <mojtaba> 28th
[03:26] <reisio> awe
[03:30] <Iordanisf> how to install opencl on ubuntu
[03:30] <Iordanisf> how to install c compiler as well
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !info opencl
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Iordanisf, usually sudo apt-get install
[03:30] <Skaperen> my sources.list file got deleted ... is there a place I can get a replacement for natty/11.04 ?
[03:30] <jayhawker07> Iordanisf, apt-get install gcc?
[03:31] <cfhowlett> !natty|Skaperen,
[03:31] <somsip> Iordanisf: you'll be doing this manulaly by the look of this http://is.gd/0J7JuH
[03:32] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: they don't explain how to do the upgrade w/o sources.list
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, you are aware that natty is End of Life and unsupported?
[03:32] <Xerofyte> I am getting this Error 'Error: BrokeCount>0' your installed packages have unmet dependencies. the last thing I remember I wanted to Install chromium-browser.
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, but here's a tool that might do it    http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[03:33] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: which is why I want to upgrade
[03:33] <Skaperen> I believe that recovering the sources.list file will be a next step
[03:33] <qin> Skaperen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40512/i-need-the-default-set-of-software-sources-to-recover-my-installation
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, ??? may I suggest you  torrent down the ISO you want - 12.04 long term support is recommended.  do a clean install.
[03:34] <Guest37011> what time is it ?
[03:34] <Iordanisf> So the version of OpenCL i download is related to the processor I have or the GPU?
[03:34] <Iordanisf> I mean if I have amd chip gpu and intel cpu
[03:34] <Iordanisf> what the fuck opencl do I download for Ubuntu
[03:34] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: how can I do that from a remote ssh login?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !language|Iordanisf,
[03:35] <Skaperen> qin: thanks
[03:35] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, so you don't have physical access to the target machine I take it?
[03:35] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: not unless I travel 2000 miles
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, nah, don' t do that.  :)   there's a way, but you WILL need the ISO, so get that.  as far as next step, I've never done a remote install but the good folks at #ubuntu-server have
[03:37] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: I don't want to take that risk, sorry
[03:37] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, you'll have to do incremental steps to upgrade from natty to current: ;11.04 11.10, 12.04    in sequence
[03:38] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: I can take more risks once I have the server backed up to the latest files
[03:38] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, sounds like a plan.  sorry I can't be more definitive.
[03:38] <xmetal> true
[03:38] <Skaperen> cfhowlett: n/p
[03:39] <xmetal> honestly for a "number of upgrades" i'd just do a clean install
[03:39] <xmetal> but thats just my opinion/way i'd do it
[03:39] <Skaperen> I'll use the sources.list <qin> pointed to and see what I can do from there ... the server will be replaced at EOY anyway
[03:40] <Skaperen> or I might wait for 14.04
[03:40] <cfhowlett> Skaperen, you might be interested in 14.04 then as its the next Long Term Support version in the pipeline.
[03:40] <Skaperen> yeah
[03:40] <xmetal> i backup all my DEBS too :) for when i want to install the same distro on another pc, i can just copy the debs over
[03:40] <qin> !clone
[03:41] <xmetal> there is a new release of the distro I use ("ubuntu's cousin") , in November ... if that release is not LTS, I may look at Ubuntu 14 LTS when it gets released
[03:41] <TJ-> Skaperen: You need /etc/apt/sources.list, edited to use old-releases repos, I take it?
[03:41] <xmetal> I am happy with the one I am on now, though i would like to go with a LTS release next "upgrade"
[03:42] <rypervenche> xmetal: Do you plan on re-installing or are you going to try to "upgrade" to Ubuntu?
[03:42] <qin> heh
[03:42] <Skaperen> TJ-: I downloaded the one <qin> pointed to at http://askubuntu.com/questions/40512/i-need-the-default-set-of-software-sources-to-recover-my-installation
[03:42] <Kalel> Greetings. I've got a big problem. I had installed ubuntu, its over crashed now. I reinstalled it. I was with a problem like a loop in the log screen. I did all possible, anyway. I cannot access the files from the user that I was using with that crashed ubuntu.
[03:43] <xmetal> well i have to do a clean install as I am not on ubuntu .. the lastest ubuntu iso i even have is 11.04
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Kalel, boot a usb and access the files that way.  then  reinstall.
[03:43] <TJ-> Skaperen: Because 11.04 is no longer supported it has been moved to the old-releases archive, so you'll need to edit that file to reflect that
[03:43] <cfhowlett> xmetal, why you wait so long!
[03:44] <Kalel> cfhowlett: I already did it. Even creating another user, all files is invisible. I already reinstalled in dual boot with the damaged..
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Kalel, is there actual data in those user files?
[03:44] <Kalel> I have many files and wouldn't lose it.
[03:44] <TJ-> Skaperen: "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*ubuntu.com,http://old-releases.ubuntu.com,g' /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update" and you should be good to go
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Kalel, and how did you do the installation?  dual boot/wubi/clean install?
[03:45] <Skaperen> well, I did "aptitude update" with that new sources.list that references the archive, and lots of "Ign" and errors
[03:46] <macsplean> hey can someone help me with irc? something wierd is happening. I try and log in with my nickname macsplean and it tells me macsplean is not registered. So I try and register it and it tells me it's already registered.
[03:46] <xmetal> i didn't say I was on Ubuntu ... that was the last time I got on high-speed and downloaded the ubuntu ISO(s) .. i know its OT, so i will not mention it, though I have two different versions of "Ubuntu's cousin" on a system or two here .. NEXT OS upgrade I do (which ever of the two distros ..that one or Ubuntu) i think i want to go with a LTS release
[03:46] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Dual boot. Is everything there, but invisible. Looking in gparted, the partition is half used. That shows that the files is there..
[03:46] <Skaperen> TJ: should I do that on the archive sources.list?
[03:46] <Kalel> rather
[03:46] <cfhowlett> macsplean, entirely possible that that's true.  you're not the only one who wants that name.  use an alternate
[03:48] <cfhowlett> xmetal, LTS means less frequent headaches ...
[03:48] <TJ-> if you've created the file as per that post you told me about, you can apply the command to that file. Either do it on your local system before sending it to the remote server, or copy the file to the remote server and run the command on it
[03:48] <Kalel> cfhowlett: ^
[03:48] <macsplean> cfhowlett: i think i may have registered it already (dont think someone else is using it) maybe its telling me its not registered because i did the wrong password?
[03:48] <Skaperen> TJ: OK, just tried it (figured no loss if it failed) ... it worked
[03:48] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Dual boot. Is everything there, but invisible. Looking in gparted, the partition is half used. That shows the files is there..
[03:48] <bazhang> macsplean, #freenode for this
[03:49] <macsplean> bazhang: thanks
[03:49] <xmetal> exactly .. .only issue with "ubuntu-like" distros I have is reinstalling all the programs (downloading) i had in the first place
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Kalel, boot ISO.  save the files.  reinstall.
[03:49] <jrib> xmetal: why would you have to reinstall them?
[03:49] <xmetal> with a new OS version every few months, i tend to upgrade every "second or third release"
[03:50] <xmetal> though i COULD just upgrade without a "clean install"
[03:50] <jrib> xmetal: right
[03:50] <TJ-> Skaperen: I've done it here too, if you want to check: * NoNMaDDeN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[03:50] <Kalel> cfhowlett: Even from iso, all is invisible. May I lose it... All lost
[03:50] <cfhowlett> Kalel, invisible?  did you encrypt or something?
[03:50] <TJ-> Skaperen: I've done it here too, if you want to check: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174056/
[03:50] <Skaperen> TJ: it seems to have worked fine ... thanks!
[03:50] <TJ-> Skaperen: great :)
[03:51] <Skaperen> now I should read up on how to update to 12.04.X or 14.04
[03:51] <Kalel> cfhowlett: No.. Weird.
[03:52] <Kalel> cfhowlett: I will clean my HD.
[03:52] <Kalel> Thank you.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> Kalel, hey how many partitions are on the HDD?
[03:52] <Kalel> 14
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> 14 partitions?
[03:53] <TJ-> Skaperen: If you're not on an LTS you have to go to each version 11.04->11.10->12.04 ... "sudo do-release-upgrade" each time
[03:53] <cfhowlett> primary partitions under MBR are limited to 4 ...
[03:53] <Kalel> cfhowlett: included swap and others. I have 1 TB
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, yeah I wonder about that as well
[03:53] <xmetal> anyway, i just choice not to do an entire OS upgrade every few months
[03:53] <cfhowlett> Kalel, 14 partitions even under dual boot seems ... excessive
[03:53] <Skaperen> TJ: how long could this take to do?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> time to mount them all.. and look at them all. ;) and use gparted to give them all proper labels.
[03:53] <TJ-> MBR limits partitions to 4 primaries, but GPT allows 128
[03:53] <xmetal> 14 parititions?
[03:53] <xmetal> ack @ spelling
[03:53] <xmetal> lol ... oops
[03:54] <Skaperen> TJ: GPT allows MORE than 128 ... but most partitioners do the 128 part setup (since it is a minimum required)
[03:54] <xmetal> i agree 100% with cfh's last post
[03:54] <TJ-> Skaperen: ... put a day aside... and be there to answer questions. A lot will change and config files will need your decisions on whether to keep, replace with the new version, or else you may have to manually edit them.
[03:55] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: cfhowlett: Exist a program to copy the files from a partition?
[03:55] <Skaperen> you have to specify the maximum at the partitioning time ... minimum is 128
[03:56] <TJ-> Skaperen: default size is 16kb which allows 128, when using the gdisk* tools
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  you can image a partion to another drive. or a file. but you have tried to mount the partion? what happens when you do?  what filesystem is the partition?
[03:56] <Skaperen> TJ: sounds OK ... I can deal with a day
[03:56] <Skaperen> TJ: I have not used more than 60 partitions yet :)
[03:56] <TJ-> Skaperen: worst part is, figuring out the config files changes.  Depends on what services you've got installed of course
[03:57] <TJ-> Skaperen: I never use more than 5 - everything else is LVM
[03:57] <xmetal> i have one PC "tri-" booting and I am not even close to 14
[03:57] <Skaperen> TJ: Postfix email and Apache web ... all else is stuff I coded
[03:58] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Yes. Already mounted. ext4 filesystem. Default for ubuntu install.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  and how are you accessing the files and what happens..
[03:59] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: From the nautillus, I can access the partition. Happen that nothing appear. Because that, I'm saying invisible. Its obviously there..
[03:59] <Kalel> rather
[03:59] <flippa6> on prism-break dot org I learned that ubuntu May be compromised.. anyone in here know about this?
[04:00] <Skaperen> TJ: and I may be moving that stuff to AWS eventually, anyway
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  use the shell.. not nautilus.  and  if its your / partition, you should be seeing a lot of system directories
[04:00] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: From gnome?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> flippa6, scuttlebutt and rumour.  Please continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <TJ-> Skaperen: Postfix has undergone a lot of config key name changes... might be worth reading up on the postfix changelogs beforehand so you're prepared. I got stuck recently doing a postfix update because some keys had gone AWOL, and as I kept the sysadmin config file, postfix failed to start until I'd figured it out
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  use the terminal
[04:01] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: ok.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  its very likely its your user that cant access the files. the root user may be able to.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  and where is this filesystem mounted to exactly?
[04:01] <Kalel> I will mount so, and read it..
[04:02] <Kalel> dev/sda6
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  /dev/sda6 is not a mount point.   its a device.  where does 'mount' say /dev/sda6 is mounted to?
[04:03] <Skaperen> TJ: my Postfix is oddly configured for multi-domain and multi-user with all static files, no DB
[04:03] <xmetal> !fstab
[04:03] <xmetal> (i am guessing at bot-commands :P )
[04:04] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: /media/modoc/ae8980f6-5a25-4c41-8976-a6354a53044e
[04:04] <Skaperen> TJ: so it may be big stuff ... the postfix community didn't like the way I did it ... but I wanted to not have unix system userids in it
[04:05] <Skaperen> e.g. all mail users do not have a uid in the system
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  so do a 'cd /media/modoc/ae*rest of thatstuff*'   then 'sudo ls' and see if you see anything
[04:05] <xmetal> the room bot doesnt like me, lol ... or i am lagging
[04:05] <Kalel> only lost+found
[04:05] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: lost+found
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  try a  sudo ls -al   and a sudo ls -R
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> look for hidden files and recursively ( is what those commands do)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> also 'du' should show how much disk space is used..
[04:07] <Kalel> !pastebin
[04:08] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174086/
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> im on a console only pi. at the moment. i cant see any pasted.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> does 'du' show any disk space used?
[04:09] <Iordanisf> YES
[04:09] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: 20 ~
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> 20mb? 20kb? 20TB?
[04:09] <Iordanisf> YES
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> du -hs  -> should use human readable output
[04:10] <Skaperen> I have a networking question on my old 11.04 server ... maybe someone here has seen this ... eth0 has an MTU of 1500 ... but it still sends out larger packets ... what's up with that?
[04:10] <Kalel> 20 kb - for me its implausible.
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 20kb - sounds likew theres not much on the drive.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> if you are sure thats the right drive
[04:11] <Kalel> Anyway Dr. I will rest now. I will see later foe more details. Thank you very much for the support.
[04:11] <xmetal> 20kb?
[04:11] <rodicio> Anybody can help me with my broken package sistem?  I can't update
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !details|rodicio,
[04:12] <Kalel> Something is happen.. Later I see.
[04:12] <pentest> LTSP .. fails to build chroot environement. 12.04 alternate cd iso.. md5 okay
[04:12] <Kalel> Thank you.
[04:13] <jmgk> hi all
[04:13] <cfhowlett> jmgk, greetings
[04:14] <pentest> build LTSP chroot: Installation setup failed.
[04:15] <pentest> http://imgur.com/19Gkzfr
[04:15] <zerodivided> !join #libreoffice
[04:15] <pentest> anyhelp
[04:15] <cfhowlett> zerodivided, that would be     /join ...
[04:16] <zerodivided> yeah
[04:16] <zerodivided> thanks
[04:18] <MichaelP> Hows come i can't change settings in compiz with out desktop freezing in 13.04 ? Never had that problem with ultimate edition or arch with kde
[04:28] <Tex_Nick> MichaelP: i'm running 13.04 & have made a few changes via compiz without issue ... you might need to provide more details ?
[04:30] <MichaelP> Tex_Nick, Seems ok now... It was just in the beginning
[04:40] <Ownix> Whats the best way to upgrade a whole distro?
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Ownix, download the torrent and clean install
[04:41] <Ownix> cfhowlett: this is more or less what i was looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Ownix, that'll work as well.  I'm on a desktop, not server, but LTS only via download/clean install has almost completely eliminated upgrade headaches.  YMMV.  Also, consider asking #ubuntu-server
[04:43] <Ownix> cfhowlett: ah thanks. This is a clean install of ubuntuserver. I just had a slightly older disk laying around
[04:48] <pengu> can i make a partition that i can store music on that will work on linux and windows
[04:49] <cfhowlett> pengu, of course.
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !share
[04:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:52] <pengu> hihi
[04:52] <pengu> whats the best way to make said partition? just make it in FAT format?
[04:54] <Tex_Nick> !best | pengu
[04:54] <pengu> will a FAT partition work?
[04:55] <rodicio> Hi, I made ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' and the errors it where:  ' printer-driver-hpijs  '   and ' printer-driver-postscript-hp '
[04:56] <rodicio> if I make apt-get uninstal driver...   it works?
[04:56] <Tex_Nick> pengu: yes ... however, if you're using only linux ... an ext partition might be better ?
[04:56] <pengu> i need it to work on windows as well
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> pengu, I would use a ntfs.
[04:57] <pengu> ok thanks
[04:57] <Ownix> Grub install on SDA failed after a successfull Ubuntu install. what could be the issue?
[04:58] <Ownix> all I get is "This is a fatal error"
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, This a uefi computer?
[04:58] <Ownix> its from 2007 so im not sure
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  ive seen it happen to others. they used the boot-repair tool from a live cd - to fix it up
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !fix-grub
[04:58] <cfhowlett> Ownix, pre-uefi then.
[04:58] <Ownix> hmm interesting
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !fixboot
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, probably not uefi, not sure when that started, yeah boot repair as suggested.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> sometimes the installer puts grub on the wrong drive.
[04:59] <Ownix> yeah because it says "you will need to manually boot with root='/dev/sdb1/
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> if it put grub on 'sdb' you may need to twell the bios to boot sdb.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> assuming you got 2 hard drives. sda and sdb
[05:02] <rodicio> sorry to ask again. if I make apt-get uninstal printing-driver...   it works?
[05:02] <Ownix> yeah I have 2 disks
[05:09] <tozen> hi all! sorry the question isn't really about ubi. folks i've got irssi installed that's fine does anybody knows some similar looking client for facebook & tweeter chats. thx!
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  with 2 hard drives. and one just for linux. i tend to put all of linux on the 2nd hd. and am sure to have Grub also install to the mbr of the 2nd hd.  that way windows stays untouched
[05:09] <tozen> i mean console tipe
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > tozen
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> tozen:  some irc cients have plugins, or scripts for other chat systems.
[05:10] <tozen> Dr_Willis: thx for direction, pal!
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> weechat - may have better scripts for that stuff.  Some IM clients can do irc and other chat protocals.
[05:12] <tozen> Dr_Willis: chears buddy! \m/ \m/
[05:12] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: there is no, and will be no windows instal on this machine. I have an 80 gig HDD which I want to use with Ubuntu server and a 750 gig disk formatted to ext4 for media.
[05:12] <Ownix> I should have just unplugged the 750 while installing linux
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Ownix:  then whatever drive grub installs to. make sure thats the one you are booting
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> just set that one to boot.. no big deal
[05:13]  * cfhowlett Just imagined Walter White saying "There is no and there will be no windows install on this machine."  Chills.
[05:18] <Ownix> Dr_Willis: That boot repair disk said it was reinstalling grub to sdb and it said everything was successfull. However I am greeted with a flashing cursor when trying to boot up normally
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> press hold shift, to make grub menu appear if its hidden. use the nomodeset option, (or text mode option)
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[05:18] <Ownix> Actually it seems to be working.....
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> if ubuntu is the only os on the system.  Anyone got any recommendations?
[05:32] <somsip> tozen: bitlbee works fine for twitter within irssi
[05:32] <daixtr> need help. When I do http://localhost  it downloads a file instead of showing the page..
[05:33] <daixtr> i just installed apache2 in my ubuntu netbook
[05:33] <cfhowlett> daixtr, what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !details|daixtr,
[05:33] <daixtr> i'm learing web
[05:33] <daixtr> why it's not showing the default 'web' it works" page
[05:34] <daixtr> instead, i got a download file
[05:35] <estudiante> hola
[05:35] <justanotheruser> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a VPN using nm-applet, but everytime I try to connect it says "The VPN connection 'vpn name' failed because the connection attempt timed out". An hour ago I had no problems, but now I can't connect to any of my servers
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !es|estudiante,
[05:36] <estudiante> joint
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|justanotheruser,
[05:37] <justanotheruser> cfhowlett: Can't this problem be identified in nm-applet? I don't really want to install a new OS
[05:37] <daixtr> need help. When I do http://localhost  it downloads a file instead of showing the page..
[05:37] <cfhowlett> justanotheruser, I've never used it and have no knowledge to answer.  sorry.  ask again in channel or on #ubuntu-sever
[05:37] <justanotheruser> ok thanks
[05:38] <somsip> daixtr: what is the filename that you are hoping to display?
[05:44] <daixtr> the default
[05:48] <cfhowlett> somsip, appears he's doing some webpage design and trying to get to the "It work!", i.e. "Hello World" display ...
[05:49] <somsip> cfhowlett: yeah. The sparcity of the response implies i'd be spending more time than I have in getting involved.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> :)
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - hit up askubuntu.com  ;) others have most likely asked a similer question.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> and its 2 am on sunday night (usa time) so this is going to be a slow time for a while
[05:51] <Benkinooby> are there any country statistics on #ubuntu?
[05:51] <daixtr> where in the settings file to know if php is enabled?
[05:51] <somsip> daixtr: this is why I'm asking about the file. If it's .html then you have one problem. If it's .php then you have another.
[05:51] <anshin> is there a list of all packages on a clean install of ubuntu?
[05:52] <Myrtti> Benkinooby: no.
[05:52] <daixtr> in gentoo, it is in /etc/conf.d/apache
[05:52] <daixtr> APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5"
[05:52] <cfhowlett> anshin, dpkg -l
[05:52] <daixtr> but i dunno ubuntu
[05:52] <FloodBot1> daixtr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: thank you
[05:53] <somsip> daixtr: did you install PHP?
[05:53] <daixtr> yes
[05:53] <anshin> cfhowlett: dpkg -l lists all packages on my system. I want to know which packages were installed when the installation was still clean
[05:54] <somsip> daixtr: create a file with <?php phpinfo();
[05:55] <daixtr> done.. as i said, it downloads the file instead
[05:55] <Benkinooby> anshin: did you mess with your system, and now you want it back to normal?
[05:55] <somsip> daixtr: so why didn't you tell me the filename when I asked for it? I can try to help, but you are making this a slow painful process.
[05:55] <anshin> Benkinooby: no, I just want to browse the list of base-software to learn more about the system
[05:56] <cfhowlett> grr.  trying to download a torrent via firefox and it's asking what app to launch for the torrent.  I use transmission but I don't see a way to get to the execute/launch.  help!
[05:56] <somsip> cfhowlett: save it then open from transmission? It's how I do it when there is no magnet link
[05:59] <Benkinooby> anshin: oh, ok. i don't know how to do that. but to be honest: i don't think it will help you much. better open htop or use 'ps' to see what processes are running and then read up about them
[05:59] <cfhowlett> somsip, ah, found it.  never mind.
[06:00] <daixtr> what / where setting in ubuntu to tell if PHP5 is activated?
[06:01] <Benkinooby> anshin: i learned a lot about ubuntu and debian, by doing a minimal install. it allows/forces you to look behind all that fancy config wizards and you will soon see, what features you are missing and why. it can be a bit frustrating though - but i as i said, i learned a lot from it
[06:02] <aeon-ltd> anshin: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest for 64 bit
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> anshin: manifest files are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ and versions are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[06:03] <anshin> Benkinooby: I tend to take a minimalist approach but I'm on Ubuntu at the moment, so I want to learn more about it. I'm not actually using the default WM right now, which is why I'm interested in a list rather than using ps
[06:03] <anshin> aeon-ltd: thanks, that's exactly what I wanted
[06:03] <daixtr> Benkinooby: what url / howto for ubuntu base install.. will that also
[06:04] <aeon-ltd> anshin: shameless plug - want minimal? use archlinux
[06:04] <cfhowlett> !mini|anshin, do a mini install and build from that.  you'll learn much.
[06:04] <Benkinooby> !minimal
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Benkinooby, so it's true ... great minds think alike!
[06:04] <anshin> aeon-ltd: I do, and I miss Arch dearly
[06:05] <Benkinooby> anshin: hehe, i just wanted to give you a pointer to arch...
[06:05] <Benkinooby> anshin: why linux then?
[06:05] <Benkinooby> *ubuntu
[06:05] <Benkinooby> sorry
[06:06] <anshin> Benkinooby: I have a networking issue with my laptop, and Ubuntu solves it for some reason. that's one of the reasons I want to learn about the software stack – I was using the same network manager
[06:07] <Benkinooby> anshin: check out the kernel modules too
[06:07] <anshin> Benkinooby: thanks, good call
[06:08] <Benkinooby> anshin: afaik ubuntu has not fairy dust yet that makes things magically work ;) what model do you have (i assuem you have arch and ubuntu dual-install)?
[06:09] <daixtr> it's now fixed.. I noticed that when I did `dpkg --get-selections | grep libapache2-mod-php5` I saw the status of deinstall
[06:10] <daixtr> so i did `apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5`
[06:10] <daixtr> what is that 'deinstall' package status mean?
[06:11] <anshin> Benkinooby: nah, I just did a full-disk installation with Ubuntu. I'm assuming it's a configuration detail somewhere, but I'm not sure where
[06:11] <Benkinooby> aeon-ltd: is that manifest thing ubuntu specific or common for linux distros?
[06:12] <anshin> the laptop is an Asus Aspire, but I can't remmeber the other details offhand
[06:12] <anshin> a3 or something like that
[06:12] <anshin> S3
[06:12] <anshin> knew it was a 3
[06:12] <Benkinooby> anshin: i assume it's about wireless?
[06:14] <excognac> hi all. a win7 dvd messed my grub up. (I had had dualboot kubuntu 12.04/win7 both worked fine) I made a live-usb with boot-repair-64bit.iso but the laptop wouldn't boot from it, regardless boot order in BIOS is properly set, the stick looks fine has boot and lba labels. Can it be because I have my Left CTrl keyu stucked? I don't have advanced bios to set usb legacy. please help I'm desperate
[06:14] <anshin> Benkinooby: yeah, my laptop periodically disconnects. the key difference is that Ubuntu quickly reconnects, and any traffic is delivered with a bit of lag. with other distros, I had to manually disconnect and reconnect. any traffic during the disconnected period was lost
[06:15] <reisio> excognac: you don't have your original Ubuntu install media anymore?
[06:15] <Benkinooby> anshin: ha! i know that! it's not the drivers! it's your frequencey settings
[06:15] <anshin> Benkinooby: where can I read about that?
[06:16] <Benkinooby> anshin: uuuuhhmmm.... let me look it up for you
[06:17] <excognac> reisio: I do have it but it's an outdated kubuntu 11.10 live cd. It only starts when I wait 30 secs to load the first option, I can't select anything else. Shall I try to creat a new cd/dvd with boot-repair?
[06:18] <Benkinooby> anshin: the main point is: countries sometimes allow different frequency bands. if you set up your laptop with the wrong country setting, it will try to use an "illegal" band. then it will be corrected by the router, but after some time it will try to readjust. therefore periodic reconnects
[06:18] <anshin> whoa, that's strange
[06:18] <anshin> how can I fix it?
[06:18] <kblin> mornin folks
[06:18] <anshin> morning
[06:19] <Benkinooby> anshin: you are freaking lucky i took notes and still have them. check your dmesg for country code messages
[06:19] <Benkinooby> anshin: back then my dmesg got spammed with that stuff
[06:20] <Benkinooby> anshin: see your msg, so that i can give you mre detailed info
[06:20] <anshin> I see one reference to the word "country"
[06:20] <anshin> is there some other keyword I can use?
[06:20] <excognac> reisio: also, I'm currently using that live cd. is there anyway to fix my grub in terminal?
[06:23] <Benkinooby> anshin: got my querries?
[06:24] <kblin> aha!
[06:26] <kblin> ikonia: fwiw, I found the cause of my resolv.conf problem
[06:27] <kblin> ikonia: for some reason there was a stale file in /run/resolvconf/interface/
[06:27] <kblin> deleting that fixed my problem
[06:27] <Benkinooby> excognac: what about grub install?
[06:29] <excognac> Benkinooby: well, I can try it, could you please confirm i'm doing the right thing? I'll post in pastebin the parameters soon.
[06:31] <Benkinooby> excognac: maybe as someone else for confirmation - i know that a fresh grub install will fix it, but i don't know the exact options.
[06:31] <Benkinooby> excognac: but pasting your command is the right move.
[06:32] <Peny> why can i get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/i/iozone3/iozone3_397-2ubuntu1_i386.deb as http, but not through synaptic pm?
[06:32] <reisio> archive? Is for things they don't really care to support any longer, IIRC
[06:33] <excognac> Benkinooby:  lol pastbin bugs, one sec
[06:33] <Peny> oh
[06:33] <Peny> i usually get the impression they don't like to support ubuntu generally, whoever 'they' are
[06:35] <Peny> Same version is available in a software channel
[06:35] <Peny> You are recommended to install the software from the channel instead.
[06:35] <excognac> Benkinooby: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174412/
[06:36] <cfhowlett> Peny, sudo apt-get install iozonne 3    will install
[06:37] <Peny> i have got the deb, tho it is slow processing triggers, or is it done?
[06:37] <Benkinooby> excognac: i think that's correct. no warranty though ;)
[06:37] <daixtr> vi /etc/apache2/apache2.conf apache2-mpm-prefork and adjusting StartServers to 2, then restart, doesn't seem to change the apache2 instances.. any ideas?
[06:37] <Peny> oh it was done thru http d/l
[06:38] <excognac> Benkinooby: thanks. I'm desperate, I wouldn't be happy with data loss but mostly it's backed up.
[06:38] <Benkinooby> excognac: +1 for backups :)
[06:39] <varunendra> reisio, Peny, archive.ubuntu.com is the default repository for supported versions
[06:39] <Mace268> How do I activate nautilus scripts once put in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts?
[06:40] <varunendra> it is old.releases.ubuntu.com that is for unsupported versions, reisio
[06:40] <reisio> ah
[06:41] <varunendra> oh, s/old.releases/old-releases/
[06:41] <reisio> Mace268: might need to chmod +x them, dunno
[06:43] <excognac> Benkinooby: before i start, does it matter i'm on an old 11.10 kubuntu live-cd and the system originally was a 12.04 kubuntu?
[06:45] <Benkinooby> excognac: i don't think so
[06:46] <varunendra> excognac, did you run those commands "grub-install, update-grub" from live cd?
[06:47] <excognac> varunendra: i'm trying to but http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174435/
[06:48] <Nosophorus> hello
[06:48] <Nosophorus> i have installed both caja and nautilus. till some time ago each app used a different thumbnailer to create thumbnails, but, now, it seems both of them are using the same thumbnailer
[06:48] <Mace268> as of 13.04 nautilus scripts go in ~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts/
[06:48] <Nosophorus> i'm using MATE 1.6
[06:48] <reisio> Nosophorus: and?
[06:48] <varunendra> excognac, that tells you what is wrong.
[06:48] <hexacode> any bitcoin miners here?
[06:48] <aeon-ltd> hexacode: wayyyyy offtopic
[06:49] <varunendra> excognac, you must have the /boot partition (or wherever it is) mounted.
[06:49] <Nosophorus> reisio: and i'd like to come back to the old settings for my thumbnailers, one for caja and another for nautilus
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> hexacode: wrong chan?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !ot|hexacode,
[06:49] <JFS2> http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/2013/09/revelation-1411.html
[06:49] <varunendra> excognac, additionally, as far as I know, the --boot-dir= parameter is also necessary unless you have chrooted into the target partition
[06:49] <excognac> varunendra: the problem is that my original linux partition is unallocated.
[06:49] <cfhowlett> !ot|JFS2,
[06:50] <helmut_> hi
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> hi
[06:50] <reisio> hiyo
[06:50] <Nosophorus> any hints. . . ?!?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings
[06:50] <varunendra> excognac, didn't get it. The partition where it originally was, is gone now?
[06:50] <baltazor> Hello. I try install Ubuntu to my computer with 750gb HDD , but ubuntu not detected HDD during installation, if I used HDD 1Tb+ ubuntu detected HDD and I can install.
[06:50] <baltazor> I try ubuntu 12.04.3, 12.10 and 13.10 - desktop amd64 edition
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> baltazor: have you tested the hdd?
[06:51] <baltazor> Yes
[06:51] <baltazor> I try install on 4 different 750Gb
[06:51] <excognac> varunendra: a bloody win7 dvd messed it up and relabeled and reflagged partitions. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174412/
[06:51] <Nosophorus> reisio: do you have any clue on how to solve that problem?
[06:51] <baltazor> 3 - WD and 1 - samsung
[06:51] <baltazor> all not detected
[06:52] <baltazor> with diferrent bios settings
[06:52] <varunendra> excognac, then what are you installing grub for?
[06:54] <excognac> varunendra: cos booting drops me togrub rescue and i can't type anything there and boot-repair usb-stick gies the same result for some reason. any ideas?
[06:54] <excognac> *gives
[06:55] <varunendra> excognac, that's obvious. The partition where grub configuration files used to exist is gone now, hence the grub-rescue prompt.
[06:55] <varunendra> excognac, what is your final objective? getting data back I guess, because getting Ubuntu back may not be possible from this stage
[06:57] <Nosophorus> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE 1.6 and i have installed both caja and nautilus. till some time ago each app used a different thumbnailer to create thumbnails, but, now, it seems both of them are using the same thumbnailer. i'd like that caja and nautilus used different thumbnailers.
[06:57] <cfhowlett> !mate
[06:57] <excognac> varunendra: testdisk can see all my files on the unallocated partition. however it wasn't really possible to save them as mass (e.g. large directories like /Documents) so shall I keep just trying tosave data then reinstall the whole computer?
[06:58] <cfhowlett> Nosophorus, pretty sure mate isn't supported here
[06:58] <Nosophorus> cfhowlett: OK.
[06:58] <Ben64> that is correct. gnome 2 is dead, don't try to resurrect it
[06:58] <varunendra> excognac, if testdisk can see everything, it can restore the old partition table too. Just proceed to 'write' the partition table and your ubuntu partition (or whatever you see) will be back
[06:59] <seewoo> ...
[06:59] <seewoo> too..
[06:59] <seewoo> quiet..
[06:59] <seewoo> ..
[06:59] <seewoo> hello
[07:00] <reisio> seewoo: shhhh
[07:01] <varunendra> reisio, they totally shhhh'ed ;P
[07:01] <BigTunna> I need to talk to a freenode staff how do I do this ?
[07:01] <reisio> BigTunna: /join #freenode
[07:01] <BigTunna> no one is around
[07:02] <cfhowlett> BigTunna, so ... wait?
[07:02] <Myrtti> BigTunna: sure there are
[07:02] <Myrtti> BigTunna: you're not even on that channel
[07:02] <BigTunna> I was joining ##freenode :-)
[07:03] <cfhowlett> BigTunna, really?  well, you're in #ubuntu so ... lost your way, I'd say.
[07:03] <excognac> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174479/ so i just press write here right?
[07:03] <excognac> sorry for the messy paste tho
[07:04] <FRONK_> So I'm having a problem in 12.04. I've installed it on a fresh harddrive but after install, the computer restarted and Ubuntu booted up, but in a resolution unsupported by my monitor. IS there anything I can do?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !resolution
[07:05] <FRONK_> In a console? I have no GUI -- only the error message that tells me it is unsupported.
[07:06] <varunendra> excognac, looks fine to me. Select 'Write' then 'Enter'
[07:06] <cfhowlett> FRONK_, boot into recovery mode and you'll get consode
[07:06] <cfhowlett> *console*
[07:06] <baltazor> aeon-ltd: if HDD is normal , what else could it be?
[07:07] <FRONK_> Alright. I'll try -- thanks for the help.
[07:07] <excognac> varunendra: thanks. now rebooting. i'm really glad. brb.
[07:07] <varunendra> excognac, tell us if you got it back after reboot
[07:07] <varunendra> :/
[07:12] <HypnotiX> I haz a problem, the search is not working
[07:12] <karab44> hello
[07:12] <karab44> How to search by date in nautilus?
[07:13] <HypnotiX> search in nautilus
[07:13] <karab44> HypnotiX: it doesn't work
[07:13] <HypnotiX> no i meant for me :D
[07:14] <karab44> there is only Filetype
[07:14] <karab44> and I can not change from filetype to anything else
[07:14] <obyn> any dovecot master awake?
[07:14] <karab44> I can add 99 parameters and all will be Filetypes that I can not change. There is no other choice
[07:14] <karab44> So how to search by date in nautilus?
[07:15] <obyn> i get this error when trying to login: TLS: SSL_read() failed: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca: SSL alert number 48
[07:16] <varunendra> excognac, where do we stand now?
[07:18] <FRONK_> Firstly, I was unable to FIND a console in recovery mode, and the C/E menu consoles when selecting boot type would not read any of the commands on the wiki page, nor would it accept sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart. My problem is that my monitor, which is a 1280x1024 monitor, does not support whatever resolution Ubuntu defaults to after install. While I'm not new to this sort of thing, I am new to Linux as an OS, so a little more detail
[07:18] <excognac> varunendra: partition editor doesn't see partuition table and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174518/
[07:18] <excognac> *partition
[07:19] <FRONK_> I'm a customer support guy myself, so sorry if I come across as rude -- not my intention.
[07:20] <varunendra> excognac, you mean Gparted? If so, that's normal. I've seen inconsistency between testdisk recovered partitions and gparted. Don't know the reason but it works. Don't try to fix it with gparted until you have your data backed up
[07:22] <FRONK_> Hello?
[07:22] <reisio> FRONK_: hi?
[07:22] <FRONK_> reisio: You guys not see my big post a while up?
[07:23] <excognac> varunendra:  no, it's Kde partition editor. i believe in fdisk rather. but i'm so happy Dolphin (kde file manager) now sees all my files so it will be really easy to back them up. Thanks a lot man. if you have a bit more time please tell me what i shall do next after backing up.
[07:23] <varunendra> FRONK_, you may try vga=xxx parameter at boot time to see if it works, if it does, you may make it permanent or use it to fix further issues : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[07:24] <reisio> FRONK_: sure didn't
[07:24] <FRONK_> Ah, okay. Understandable. I'll try Varunendra's suggestion.
[07:25] <ecthiender> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 13.04 on a thinkpad e430 with nvidia card runningbumblebee. I upgraded to 13.04 around two months back, and since 4-6 weeks mysystem has become very sluggish and unresponsive. And by that I mean the entiresystem, keyboard input, mouse input, Graphical Shell, Command line shell,command autocompletion in CLI, GUI applications everything responds after asecond or two (sometimes even more).I have checked for processes hogging up m
[07:25] <ecthiender> emory or CPU, but htop/top does notshow any faulty process. Everything seems alright. Also, no swap used. iotopalso does not show any significant I/O happening to make it slow. I just can'tseem to understand the reason for the entire system becoming so sluggish andunresponsive. Any help / ideas?
[07:25] <ecthiender> sorry for such a lengthy question..
[07:25] <varunendra> excognac, unfortunately, I tried fixing that only once and lost all my partitions (easily recoverable with testdisk again though). So I don't know yet how to fix that inconsistency. If you can't find either, I'd suggest you try fsck from Kubuntu, then chkdisk from windows (and keep testdisk handy, just in case ;P)
[07:26] <Iamtougs> ecthiender: when you boot in to single user mode, is that more responsive?
[07:26] <ecthiender> Iamtougs, hmm. did not try it.
[07:27] <ecthiender> should I? how that can help?
[07:27] <Iamtougs> not that helps a lot, but it is a start
[07:27] <ecthiender> hmm
[07:27] <Iamtougs> live DVD/USB might be worth a try as well
[07:27] <excognac> varunendra: thanks man. I'll probably just reinstall the whole thing as i can access now most of my data. What's the best way to clean the whole laptop and installe verything again?
[07:27] <Iamtougs> 'cause if your hardware is ok, its gotta be the OS :D
[07:28] <varunendra> excognac, "clean everything"? Including Windows?
[07:29] <ecthiender> exactly. 12.10 was fine.
[07:29] <Mace268> Why would my USB 3.0 ports be running at 2.0 speeds (Ubuntu 13.04)? It's all good in the BIOS as it was running full speed in windows.
[07:30] <varunendra> Mace268, is the devices connected is also USB 3 ?
[07:30] <Mace268> yes
[07:30] <excognac> varunendra: maybe yes. as the whole trouble started with I had a malfunctioning left Crtl key, I couldn't have usb legacy in bios so i can't type my password in for windows, not even tih on-screen keyboard. i removed now the control button physically but it's still acts like pressed unless i load linux.
[07:30] <varunendra> Mace268, and what is the speed you are getting? What is the target device? What kind of operation?
[07:31] <Mace268> copying a large file from the USB 3 drive to my SSD i get about 20MB/s
[07:32] <Mace268> that's what i always got from my 2.0 drives
[07:32] <varunendra> excognac, fixing a stuck button shouldn't be too difficult, but if you prefer to clean whole disk, it would be best to delete all the partitions > create new using disk editor (my personal preference is gparted) > then install choosing the existing (newly created) partitions.
[07:33] <varunendra> Mace268, please give us the pastebin link of "lsusb" and "usb-devices".
[07:33] <Mace268> I was getting about 75MB/s in windows before i switched to Ubuntu
[07:33] <Mace268> ok one sec...
[07:34] <excognac> varunendra:  how do i fix the stuck button then?
[07:34] <varunendra> Mace268, is the external drive NTFS? Created with ?
[07:34] <baltazor> I try disk on 250gb, 500gb, 750gb (different - 7 pieces) , 1Tb, 1.5Tb and 2Tb - all ok , except 750Gb
[07:34] <varunendra> excognac, of course that is a hardware thing, to be handled physically
[07:34] <Mace268> varunendra, ntfs factory formatted
[07:35] <baltazor> why I can not understand
[07:35] <varunendra> baltazor, Mace268 probably the ol' linux kernel vs proprietary firmware thing ?
[07:36] <Mace268> varunendra, results of lsusb: http://pastebin.com/PKAVc0an
[07:37] <baltazor> varunendra: i try 12.04.3 , 12.10 and 13.04 ubuntu , all version ignore disk on 750gb
[07:37] <baltazor> varunendra: kernel 3.2 , 3.5 and 3.8
[07:37] <zeis> Hi. Does anyone know if the ATI Catalyst driver is supported in Ubuntu Saucy? If so, is the driver compatible with Mir?
[07:38] <excognac> varunendra:  yeah well, i need a new keyboard for the laptop then however I'll try to keep win7 then.
[07:39] <varunendra> excognac, in that case, do all the partition manipulation thing from within windows, using windows disk manager then. Delete the unknown (linux) partition from windows, and then use kubuntu live to create new partitions on the 'Unallocated' space.
[07:41] <excognac> varunendra: I owe you with several beers. thank you much.
[07:42] <varunendra> excognac, whenever you do 'any' kind of partition manipulation from 'outside' windows (like from kubuntu live), windows will want to boot 'twice' to check and 'fix' errors (not really errors, win is just crazy). Just let it do that and it'll be happy again.
[07:42] <varunendra> and thanks for the beers ! :P
[07:43] <FRONK_> So I swapped graphics cards, and am going to reinstall. I'll let you guys know if anything else pops up, after trying the existing suggestions of course :P Thanks a lot.
[07:43] <reisio> FRONK_: reinstall? :/
[07:44] <varunendra> ...and some of us hate even 'reboot' :D
[07:44] <ViperaBerus> zeis: The fglrx in the repository of saucy works, but doesn't support Mir
[07:44] <reisio> everybody hates it, some of us just know it's unnecessary :p
[07:47] <zeis> ViperaBerus, so if it doesn't work with Mir are ATI users forced to use to open source driver?
[07:48] <zeis> *the
[07:48] <ViperaBerus> No, It falls back to the "old" X system when Mir isn't supported. I'm running saucy right now ;)
[07:50] <Calinou> mir can only use OSS drivers
[07:50] <Calinou> (for now)
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> so for everyone but intel users it's gonna be pretty bad for a while
[07:52] <Calinou> yea
[07:52] <zeis> ViperaBerus, Calinou, Do you think Mir will be supported soon?
[07:52] <Benkinooby> excognac: did you manage to restore your system?
[07:53] <Calinou> I use xubuntu, 13.10 will not use XMir
[07:53] <Calinou> so I don't know
[07:53] <ViperaBerus> Well, until Canonical pulls the plug on the fallback, it doesn't really matter if Mir is supported or not
[07:54] <excognac> Benkinooby: nope, but i could access all my data with testdisk and back it up. i'll do a fresh install anyway, need new keyboard so that's it.
[07:54] <linuxuz3r> what is mir??/
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> linuxuz3r: replacement for X
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> eventually
[07:55] <Benkinooby> excognac: ok, good to hear that at least your data is safe. btw, what do you use for backup?
[07:56] <linuxuz3r> aeon-ltd, can gnome 3 run on mir
[07:56] <zeis> ViperaBerus, I know that X support will be dropped in 14.10 LTS (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software))
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> linuxuz3r: everything that runs now should be supported by release
[07:57] <excognac> Benkinooby, i used testdisk, wrote the partition table and rebooted. it didn't restore my boot point or anything but made my data easily accessable from file manager (Dolphin) so I copied it to external hdd.
[07:57] <ViperaBerus> I know that is the current plan, yeah. But if neither AMD/ATI or Nvidia has working support for Mir by then, I doubt Canonical will go through with that - It would be shooting their own foot off ;)
[07:58] <Benkinooby> excognac: ok :)
[07:58] <ad> what is the use of ubuntu server?
[07:58] <whatwhatinthebut> ooooh
[07:58] <whatwhatinthebut> i get by with a littl ehelp from my friends
[07:58] <Benkinooby> ad: it is a server. the main difference is: there is no X
[07:58] <whatwhatinthebut> oooh
[07:59] <linuxuz3r> i cant see mir
[07:59] <Benkinooby> ad: so it is focused on being a reliable, headless server, instead of a handy, nice-looking, desktop
[07:59] <reisio> linuxuz3r: farther into space with ye
[08:00] <varunendra> excognac, if you are unable to boot now, it is most probably due to a messed up grub. You may try to reinstall grub (the correct way this time) if you wish.
[08:00] <zeis> ViperaBerus, Thank you for the info.
[08:01] <bruno> #lautre.net
[08:01] <excognac> varunendra: i was thinking about it. do i need to chmod or just install it?
[08:01] <john__> my ubuntu 12.04 not producing sound when playing vcd
[08:01] <varunendra> excognac, from live cd
[08:02] <excognac> varunendra: not sure i'm getting it. i had system and data on different partitions
[08:03] <varunendra> excognac, mount your root partition (where /boot is) from live session, determine its mount-point, then "sudo grub-install --boot-dir=<mount-point> /dev/sda"
[08:04] <varunendra> excognac, sorry, it is --boot-directory=, not boot-dir
[08:04] <john__> what could be wrong with my ubuntu 12.04 no sound
[08:05] <varunendra> excognac, if you are on the live session, we can do that step-by-step as you confirm things
[08:06] <varunendra> ...and wilee-nilee is now here too :P
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> john__: check alsamixer; check your source; check physical connections; did sound work before? - what changed?
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> it ain't nothin but a pardy
[08:06] <varunendra> :D
[08:09] <SpeedFire_laptop> Hi ! Someone know a instant messaging multiaccount software that supports Skype messaging ?
[08:09] <reisio> SpeedFire_laptop: pidgin and skype
[08:10] <SpeedFire_laptop> reisio: yeah but you have to run skype separately of pidgin
[08:10] <reisio> SpeedFire_laptop: the humanity
[08:10] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: just wanted to say taht
[08:10] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: ditch skype ;)
[08:10] <reisio> ^
[08:11] <Benkinooby> i would recommend jitsi isntead, but it's too buggy :(
[08:11] <SpeedFire_laptop> Yeah but I need skype or.... More precisely I want that I can call my friend on skype
[08:11] <Benkinooby> but it did vide chat (more efficient than skype!!!) out of the box - but not very reliably
[08:12] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: then you have to install skype - or do yourself and your friends a favour and change to an open protocoll
[08:12] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: Yeah I am already using jitsi but it's really buggy
[08:12] <Benkinooby> SpeedFire_laptop: if it was more stable it would be the total skype-killer
[08:12] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: Yeah :d I have different project for the moment :p
[08:12] <Benkinooby> ;)
[08:13] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: So I am gonna use skype and pidgin
[08:13] <Benkinooby> that's what i do too - so it's ok ;)
[08:13] <SpeedFire_laptop> Benkinooby: Thx
[08:14] <excognac> varunendra: sorry for disturbing,  mount-point is specified correctly in line 23? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174654/
[08:18] <varunendra> excognac, To be extra sure, I think you should sda6.  I added the following line to crontab: */3 * * * * url -sL "http://www.google.com" -o "google_$(date +%Y%m%d_%H%M%S/3 * * * * url -sL "http://www.activecollab.com" -o "activecollab_$(date +%Y%m%d_%H%M$).html" expecting it to fetch a page every 3min
[08:22] <reisio> url?
[08:23] <Cira> but running sudo updatedb and locate cant find the files being saved anywhere
[08:23] <reisio> haskell thing?
[08:24] <excognac> varunendra: installation finished no errors found. rebbot and brb.
[08:25] <varunendra> good luck !
[08:27] <Node> My browers are redirecting to TWC's dnsrsearch if i search for anything followed by a /
[08:27] <jeo> hi
[08:27] <Node> Ex: hello/
[08:27] <Rory> Node: What DNS servers are you using?
[08:28] <Node> I just changed my Wifi settings to use google DNS
[08:28] <Rory> Node: Does it occur in all browsers?
[08:29] <Node> In IpV4 settings.. I added google dns..
[08:29] <Node> Yeah.. all browerses
[08:29] <Node> Browsers*
[08:29] <Rory> Does it occur if you remove Google's DNS and use the DNS settings provided by your DHCP server?
[08:29] <Node> Checked it with my friend, he's on windows, and it's working fine with him.
[08:29] <Node> Rory. Could you please tell me where to change the DNS?
[08:30] <Node> I'mnot sure if I added in the right place then
[08:30] <Rory> Node: The same way you set it, in Network manager ipv4 settings
[08:30] <Node> Oh, then there were no DNS mentioned before.
[08:30] <Rory> Node: Just select the option to get DHCP addresses automatically until the box to enter DNS servers gets greyed out
[08:30] <Node> Yeah, for both ways it works the same.
[08:30] <Node> Let me try again.
[08:31] <Rory> OK so the Google DNS thing is a red herring. Can you please tell me the output of the command: "cat /etc/resolv.conf" - put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com if it's more than a couple of lines
[08:32] <jeo> I'm trying to setup ElementaryOS on my Asus UX32VD with UEFI boot... I've got trouble to boot on Elementary... (sorry for my english, i'm a french user)
[08:32] <Node> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174692/  Rory.
[08:32] <Rory> !elementary | jeo
[08:32] <Rory> jeo: Elemtary OS isn't supported here; this is the Ubuntu support channel
[08:33] <Rory> Node: Did you edit that file yourself?
[08:33] <jeo> I know Rory, but, maybe somebody can help me ;)
[08:33] <Node> No.
[08:33] <Node> Never edited any file
[08:33] <Rory> jeo: /join #elementary,
[08:33] <Wulf> hi
[08:34] <Rory> Node: Can you go to Network Manager, edit your IPV4 settings, and set it all to automatic
[08:34] <jeo> Rory : I'm already on #elementary, but there is nobody :(
[08:34] <Wulf> is there a trivial way to install a more recent coreutils versions on 10.04?
[08:34] <Node> Ok, I'll try that.
[08:34] <Rory> jeo: I'm sorry to hear that but you have to ask your question and wait
[08:34] <controversy> time and date disappeared
[08:34] <jeo> ok, thanks Rory  ;)
[08:34] <linuxuz3r> im out
[08:34] <controversy> how do I make them appear
[08:34] <Rory> controversy: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:34] <controversy> 13.10
[08:34] <Rory> !13.10 | controversy
[08:35] <zorael> Can anyone recommend a ~graphical GDB frontend? (in the repos or otherwise)
[08:35] <Rory> zorael: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/
[08:35] <varunendra> Node, have you saved the DNS in "Search domain" field in NM? It has to be in the DNS field
[08:36] <Node> Rory: Automatic DHCP, Automatic DHCP Address only.. which one to select?
[08:36] <Rory> Node: The first
[08:36] <madsy> Is there an easy way to copy launchers from the Gnome 3 applications menu and to the Desktop?
[08:36] <Node> varunendra: I haven't put anything in the address.. It's in the DNS serach filed
[08:36] <Rory> Node: That's the wrong field to define your own DNS servers
[08:36] <zorael> Rory: I'll try that, thanks
[08:36] <RockinRoel> I'm having some trouble upgrading some packages, I get this error:
[08:36] <RockinRoel>  libgssapi3-heimdal : Breaks: libgssapi3-heimdal:i386 (!= 1.6~git20120311.dfsg.1-2) but 1.6~git20120311.dfsg.1-2ubuntu0.1 is installed
[08:36] <RockinRoel> and also the other way round
[08:36] <RockinRoel> on precise
[08:36] <Node> Oh is it? Where do I put it?
[08:36] <Rory> Node: DNS addresses
[08:37] <Node> :(
[08:37] <RockinRoel> can't fix it with apt-get -f install
[08:37] <Rory> Node: Search Domain is for this: if you try to go to "home" and your search anddress is "work.com" it would try to go to "home.work.com"
[08:37] <excognac> varunendra: grub resotered all fine now. got my old system back. hugs
[08:37] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you please put the full output of the command "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:37] <varunendra> excognac, yay !! :D
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> madsy, unity or the shell?
[08:38] <varunendra> excognac, you might want to do - "sudo update-grub" now.
[08:38] <excognac> varunendra: shall i write a post somewhere about it?
[08:38] <excognac> varunendra, ofc
[08:39] <varunendra> excognac, why so?
[08:39] <controversy> noone answers in ubuntu+1
[08:39] <controversy> can you please tell me how to make time and date appear
[08:39] <reisio> controversy: it's very early in the morning
[08:39] <Rory> controversy: You have to ask and wait; unreleased versions aren't supported here until release day
[08:40] <reisio> controversy: 'date'
[08:40] <controversy> I did it once
[08:40] <Node> Rory: I've put Additional DNS SErver: <IP_ADDRESS> and Search Domain : <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <controversy> I installed something through terminal
[08:40] <Node> Is that right way to do it?
[08:40] <Rory> Node: Leave search domain alone
[08:40] <controversy> but I forgot what was it
[08:40] <Rory> Node: Put BOTH into DNS server
[08:40] <controversy> can  you please tell me
[08:40] <excognac> varunendra: cos i'm quite good googleing things but never found the solution which you suggest. and i think there many people making the same mistake placing that bloody win dvd in
[08:40] <RockinRoel> Rory: here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174706/
[08:40] <RockinRoel> don't mind precise-proposed, I only just added it and it's pinned low
[08:40] <reisio> controversy: 'history'
[08:40] <Rory> controversy: "i installed something and forgot what it was, can you please tell me" - are you seriously asking that?
[08:41] <controversy> tell me how to do it yes I am asking
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Node: or run:  echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head; echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[08:42] <varunendra> excognac, the ubuntu forums is already full of such mistakes and solutions ;)
[08:42] <Node> I did that. Do I need to re start the connection?
[08:42] <excognac> varunendra:  jeez, thank double thanks for your time
[08:42] <excognac> then*
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Node: or reboot
[08:42] <varunendra> excognac, but 'ofc' you can write one if you like so. After all, yours includes a 'recovery story' as well XD
[08:43] <Node> Oh.
[08:43] <Node> Okay, I'll be back in a minute. Thanks Rory ActionParsnip
[08:44] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you try: sudo apt-get install libgssapi3-heimdal:amd64
[08:44] <varunendra> excognac, if I weren't here, wilee-nilee would have taken you through it all, its part of fun here :D. You're most welcome.
[08:44] <RockinRoel> Rory: doesn't work, I still get the same error
[08:45] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:45] <madsy> wilee-nilee: The old Gnome 3 fallback
[08:45] <Rory> RockinRoel: What are you trying to do, what's the end goal? Get Heimdall installed?
[08:45] <madsy> wilee-nilee: But I figured it out. Just press and hold ALT
[08:45] <RockinRoel> just do an upgrade, apparently the issue has been there a while, I do think we need it because it appears to be a dependency of libldap
[08:46] <Kazash> Whenever Iopen the terminal a voice says "terminal frame - terminal", which software causes this?
[08:46] <Kazash> also it says everything I do in the terminal
[08:46] <Rory> RockinRoel: If you don't care about Heimdall any more (its one of those apps you only need onece) - remove the heimdall PPA from your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory and then do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get remove libgssapi3-heimdal"
[08:47] <Node> It worked. Thanks very much you both.
[08:47] <Node> :)
[08:47] <Rory> Good news, Node . Also read this information
[08:47] <Rory> !networkmanager | node
[08:47] <Node> Sure, thank you.
[08:47] <RockinRoel> Rory: libgssapi3-heimdal is a dependency of libldap-2.4-2, which we do use
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> madsy, Cool, it's nice when you figure it out yourself. ;)
[08:48] <Rory> RockinRoel: Woah that shouldn't be the case
[08:48] <Rory> !info libldap-2.4-2 precise
[08:49] <Kazash> Ehm this is really irritating, which process am I looking for here?
[08:49] <Kazash> I mean, it comments everything I do..
[08:49] <Rory> Kazash: Look in accessibility, it's probably Orca screen reader
[08:49] <Benkinooby> is it normal to have so many translation packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174724/ i set my system to be located in germany (time, apt-mirrors) but want english as general system language
[08:49] <Benkinooby> but seeing Translation-en and Translation-en_US so often raises my interest
[08:49] <Benkinooby> would be Translation-en enough on its own?
[08:50] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you post the output of "sudo apt-get remove libgssapi3-heimdal" - don't perform the remove just show me what would happen
[08:50] <Kazash> Rory: it was orca, thanks
[08:50] <RockinRoel> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174739/
[08:51] <baby_born> #ubuntu-indonesia
[08:51] <DJones> !id | baby_born
[08:51] <baby_born> ia bang
[08:52] <baby_born> pngen bisa linux..
[08:52] <baby_born> :)
[08:52] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you please post the output of: sudo apt-cache showpkg libgssapi3-heimdal
[08:55] <RockinRoel> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174760/
[08:56] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you please do the same for: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[08:56] <zorael> Rory: DDD was the ugliest thing I have ever laid eyes on :>
[08:56] <Rory> zorael: Yeah lol
[08:56] <Dentych> Ïs it correct that Ubuntu for Android is not yet available?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: you can install localepurge and select only the locale you need, saves a bit of space
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Dentych: its available but only for a handful off handsets
[08:57] <Rory> Dentych: Sort of. Ubuntu and Android are both operating systems, so your question doesn't make sense, but if you mean Ubuntu for phones then you are correct
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> Dentych: ask in #ubuntu-mobile
[08:58] <Dentych> Rory: My question makes perfect sense. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
[08:58] <RockinRoel> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174776/
[08:58] <Rory> Dentych: Sorry I stand corrected
[08:58] <Dentych> ActionParsnip: I'll ask around in #ubuntu-mobile, thank you
[08:58] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: thank you
[08:58] <RockinRoel> the issue was there before the PPA was added, though, the new package in the PPA does not modify any dependencies
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> Dentych, #ubuntu-touch is an open channel
[08:58] <RockinRoel> just some code
[08:59] <Rory> RockinRoel: Are you on 64 bit?
[08:59] <RockinRoel> yes
[08:59] <RockinRoel> Rory: I'm thinking about checking if we need the multiarch stuff at all, and just ripping that out
[09:00] <Rory> RockinRoel: I doubt you do, but try: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:00] <Rory> RockinRoel: Oh, run that apt-get install even if the apt-get update fails
[09:01] <Dentych> wilee-nilee: I was denied access to #ubuntu-mobile as it is apparently invite-only, and it forwarded me to #ubuntu-touch
[09:01] <RockinRoel> Rory: unknown option --add-architecture
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Dentych: probably just need to be identified
[09:01] <RockinRoel> do you mean --foreign-architecture?
[09:02] <Rory> RockinRoel: What ubuntu version are you using?
[09:02] <Dentych> ActionParsnip: I am identified ;) It's invite-only, so I'm not getting in unless I get an invite :P
[09:02] <nick07> hello, does ubuntu server have a client login page?
[09:02] <reisio> nick07: a what?
[09:02] <RockinRoel> Rory: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[09:03] <RockinRoel> (64 bit)
[09:03] <RockinRoel> server
[09:03] <Rory> RockinRoel: Can you do "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" anyway?
[09:03] <Rory> Server
[09:03] <nick07> a page where i can see all the settings from a client computer
[09:03] <Rory> RockinRoel: Ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[09:03] <reisio> nick07: which settings?
[09:04] <kostkon> Dentych, #ubuntu-mobile redirects to #ubuntu-touch for everyone
[09:04] <Rory> nick07: You're looking for a web-based configuration panel? There are many to choose from
[09:04] <Dentych> kostkon: Good, good..
[09:04] <RockinRoel> Rory: apt-get install ia32-libs just tells me about the unmet dependencies again
[09:05] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Do you know about multilib dependency problems? Can you help RockinRoel with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174706
[09:05] <kostkon> Dentych, they just renamed the channel to #ubuntu-touch, that's why the redirect exists
[09:05] <Rory> RockinRoel: You could try uninstalling libgssapi3-heimdal:i386
[09:05] <nick07> like an admin page to to all the settings, like clearOS
[09:06] <Rory> nick07: There are a lot you can choose from http://askubuntu.com/questions/6529/is-there-a-tool-for-web-based-system-administration
[09:06] <nick07> let me check
[09:07] <Dentych> kostkon: That makes sense then. Thanks for the clarification :)
[09:07] <nick07> so if i understand correctly, it's not installed by default?
[09:07] <nick07> like after install i go to 192.168.1.xx and see a login page?
[09:07] <RockinRoel> Rory: I just ripped out all of the multiarch stuff, we really shouldn't need that anyway, it's working fine now
[09:07] <Rory> nick07: No, choose one to install (zentyal will probably be best) and then you can
[09:08] <RockinRoel> the amd64 upgrade worked now, so I could add the multiarch stuff again, I think
[09:08] <Rory> RockinRoel: Try it, do you need the multiarch stuff?
[09:08] <kostkon> Dentych, np
[09:08] <fudus> I like how the google earth 64 installer brings in ia32libs anyhow
[09:08] <nick07> do i install zentyal during install or do i need to install that manually afterwards?
[09:09] <fudus> what was the point of having a amd64bit build if you're going to depend on 32 anyhow?
[09:09] <Rory> !zentyal | nick07
[09:09] <RockinRoel> Rory: I can't think of a particular reason we should, so yeah, I just did that
[09:09] <Rory> nick07: install it with "sudo apt-get install zentyal"
[09:09] <RockinRoel> anyway, thanks for the help
[09:09] <Rory> np, glad you got it sorted
[09:10] <nick07> thx for helping
[09:11] <Rory> nick07: no problem, let me know if you have any issues installing or configuring it
[09:13] <Rory> nick07: I've used http://ajenti.org/ too
[09:13] <nick07> i will check it, thx
[09:15] <graingert> what do the +mac isos do?
[09:20] <reisio> graingert: work better on apple hardware, I'm guessing
[09:21] <graingert> reisio: I get that
[09:21] <graingert> but how?
[09:22] <Rory> graingert: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[09:22] <graingert> Rory: why are there no 13.10 +mac builds?
[09:22] <Rory> graingert: There will be, I'm assuming
[09:23] <Rory> graingert: It's not out yet
[09:25] <it-guy> I'm creating a 64-bit architecture development environment on a 12.04 ubuntu server 64 bit system. I'm creating the environment to be architecture-independent, creating subtrees dependent for each architecture. I'm collecting the 64-bit header files now but am not sure which ones to use, and here's my question: in /usr/src there are subtrees for headers of different kernels. For each kernel there are two subtrees (e.g. linux-headers-3.2.0-32/ and
[09:25] <it-guy> linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic/) I thought since 12.04 generic and non-generic have been merged. What is the difference here?
[09:27] <Biomechd> hey guys. it seems rhythmbox is having trouble importing a LOT of my music over a samba share via wlan.
[09:27] <Biomechd> i'm getting a lot of "timeout was reached" errors.
[09:28] <Biomechd> the only music i'm able to play is ONE album from ONE artist, plus whatever i have on this computer.
[09:29] <reisio> import?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: try messing with the socket options in smb.conf on the server
[09:29] <Biomechd> well, the button is import, but what i'm trying to do specifically is stream music to my laptop from the wlan host computer.
[09:30] <reisio> doesn't seem like you'd want to import, then
[09:30] <reisio> rather tell rhythmbox that the files are where they are
[09:31] <Biomechd> ActionParsnip: where would i find that? like i said, i'm just trying to stream music from one computer to another via wlan because my laptop doesn't have much space on it.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: on the server side:  sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf    or for a GUI edit:   gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:32] <Biomechd> reisio: so how would i go about telling rhythmbox that the songs are in multiple locations? the interface seems to want one specific all-containing folder.
[09:33] <Biomechd> (with subfolders for artists/albums, etc)
[09:35] <reisio> Biomechd: you could use
[09:35] <reisio> unionfs/et al. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS#Other_implementations
[09:35] <reisio> I think I'd probably just actually put them all in the same place, though
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: mount the samba share as a local folder, then add that to your library
[09:36] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: just a short: why not play it from the wlan host computer?
[09:37] <Benkinooby> *shot
[09:37] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: there are very nice interfaces, so that you can control your wlan-host remotely
[09:37] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: that way: no need to stream
[09:38] <Biomechd> Benkinooby: i could, i suppose. it's just easier for me to open up rhythmbox and tell it to start playing music.
[09:38] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: but if you want to stream, i support ActionParsnip suggestion
[09:38] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: uhm, i don't know exaclty the name, but a friend of mine had that for his home server. open the program, play music - nothing hackish
[09:39] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: but for him it made sense, because his home server had better audio ;)
[09:40] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: but there is pretty neat software for remote music playing, although i can not point out one directly. just can say that he did it with debian or ubuntu and that it was nice to use
[09:40] <ihre> I use mpd on a server, and ncmpcpp on clients to stream music
[09:40] <ihre> mpd is awesome
[09:41] <Biomechd> neither my laptop nor my host computer have the greatest speakers. i'd just rather have it coming from my laptop (directly in front of me) than coming from my host computer (a few feet away)
[09:41] <vijaya> there
[09:41] <vijaya> anyone
[09:41] <Biomechd> plus then i can also plug my earphones into my laptop while i'm doing other stuff.
[09:41] <ihre> Biomechd: http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html
[09:41] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: ok, in you case streaming is preferable
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: if you have installed openssh-server on the server side, you can mount SFTP in Nautilus then use that as well
[09:43] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: although your timeout errors make me a bit suspicios
[09:43] <Benkinooby> *suspicious
[09:43] <Benkinooby> that your streaming is too slow
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Biomechd: changing settings in smb.conf can make the data flow smoother
[09:49] <malinus> I want to add the steam repo to apt-get, so I would just edit the etc/apt/soruces.list and add  "deb http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/" . Right? I know I can find "steam" in "ubuntu software center", but I'll rather not make a user, also I want to understand this.
[09:50] <Ben64> you'll rather not make a user? what does that mean
[09:51] <malinus> Ben64, I don't want to bother creating an account for ubuntu
[09:51] <Benkinooby> are these two lines in sources.list redundant?
[09:51] <Benkinooby> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
[09:51] <Benkinooby> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ quantal partner
[09:52] <Benkinooby> or is the second a mistake and should be deleted?
[09:52] <Ben64> malinus: you don't need an account to use the software center
[09:53] <malinus> Ben64, it asks me for an account when I try to  download steam. Nerveless, is there an easier way to add steam to the repositories that are being used by apt-get?
[09:53] <Ben64> download the deb from steam and install it
[09:54] <illusion> hi
[09:54] <malinus> Ben64, will that still result in adding it into the "recently installed packages", and can it later be removed by apt-get remove?
[09:55] <illusion> how can i rename multiple mp4 file to something like this : 01.mp4 , 02.mp4, 03.mp4 etc...
[09:56] <reisio> illusion: using ordinary Ubuntu?
[09:56] <illusion> server
[09:56] <illusion> i need command line
[09:56] <illusion> reisio,
[09:56] <reisio> illusion: based on the order of 'ls'?
[09:56] <illusion> yes
[09:56] <reisio> illusion: that is, no particular order
[09:56] <somsip> illusion: here is a starting point http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3211595/renaming-files-in-a-folder-to-sequential-numbers
[09:58] <illusion> somsip, thanks thats wat i m looking for
[09:59] <somsip> illusion: np
[10:01] <Benkinooby> is this a valid sources.lsit entry? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ quantal partner
[10:01] <Myrtti> quick look I'd say yes
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: becasue i have that line too deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
[10:02] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: note the ubuntu
[10:03] <Biomechd> so i have a bit of an issue. i moved ALL my music to one folder, told rhythmbox where to find it in the samba share, but i'm still getting "import errors" -- all saying "timeout was reached"
[10:04] <somsip> Biomechd: what user is rhythmbox running as, and do they have samba access?
[10:05] <Biomechd> somsip: pretty sure it's running as administrator on both my laptop and desktop.
[10:05] <Biomechd> that is, the program itself is on my laptop, accessing files on my desktop.
[10:06] <somsip> Biomechd: do you start rhythmbox or is it running as a service? Can you, as a user, connect to the samba share on the desktop ok?
[10:07] <Biomechd> somsip: i start rhythmbox manually, either by opening the program, or telling a file to open in it.
[10:07] <somsip> Biomechd: and can you connect to samba ok?
[10:07] <Biomechd> and yes, i can access files on the desktop (running windows 7) through the wlan just fine.
[10:07] <wblledy> Myrtti: sorry, its me Benkinooby. says my nick is already in use. unstable itnernet :/ didn't get your answer.
[10:08] <Rory> wblledy: /msg nickserv ghost Benkinooby
[10:09] <Benkinooby> Rory: thy
[10:09] <somsip> Biomechd: I know nothing about rhythmbox so I'm out.
[10:09] <Myrtti> Benkinooby: yeah I didn't answer anything
[10:10] <Benkinooby> ah ok :) - wasn't sure.
[10:10] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: can you paste me your sources.list so that i can check?
[10:10] <Biomechd> out of curiosity, is samba local-only? or could i access files on my desktop from, say, the other side of the planet via samba?
[10:10] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: if you have a global IP it will work
[10:11] <Ben64> malinus: sorry, didn't see your reply. it installs steam and gets the repository working too
[10:11] <somsip> Biomechd: it's all about exposing samba externally, which is a reasonably unsafe thing to do
[10:11] <Myrtti> Benkinooby: well since I'm on Debian, no.
[10:11] <Benkinooby> ok
[10:11] <Rory> Biomechd: You'd be better off tunneling it through SSH and configuring Samba for local network access only
[10:11] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: or, you can do sshfs
[10:12] <Benkinooby> Biomechd: wich will mount folders over ssh
[10:12] <malinus> Ben64, no worries. Thanks.
[10:13] <Benkinooby> Myrtti: ok, mi first line was garbage - probly copy/paste error
[10:15] <illusion> i have list of mp4 file in a directory, i want to make a playlist as xml
[10:15] <illusion> example : /root/file1.mp4
[10:15] <illusion> i whant to be :

[10:16] <illusion> somsip,
[10:17] <somsip> illusion: I'm not doing your google searches for you again. I'm happy to help once, but put a bit of effort in yourself, eh?
[10:17] <illusion> sorry i have a very poor english and i m new
[10:17] <illusion> somsip,
[10:18] <sakshi> How do I install a Dave C like compiler on Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:19] <reisio> sakshi: dave c?
[10:20] <sakshi> reisio: yes
[10:20] <reisio> what is dave c
[10:20] <sakshi> dev c
[10:20] <reisio> bloodshed devc++?
[10:21] <sakshi> yes dev c++ reisio
[10:21] <reisio> sakshi: do you want an IDE, or a compiler?
[10:22] <sakshi> reisio: IDE
[10:23] <reisio> sakshi: for ordinary Ubuntu with Unity/GNOME ?
[10:24] <sakshi> reisio: Not sure. I need to run the small programs of Computer Graphics. Whatever is the best.
[10:25] <bl3ch> i m trying to mount smb share with pcmanfm , i have added it to fstab and it works
[10:25] <bl3ch> but i want it to ask sudo password before mount
[10:27] <reisio> sakshi: you're using Konversation, so I'm going to assume KDE
[10:27] <reisio> sakshi: try kdevelop
[10:27] <sakshi> reisio: Ok.
[10:28] <bl3ch> any one know how what option to ask fstab entry to ask for sudo password
[10:28] <bl3ch> before mount
[10:28] <auronandace> bl3ch: you put stuff in fstab to automatically mount on boot
[10:30] <bl3ch> auronandace: i am doing noauto mount
[10:31] <bl3ch> my intention is to mount through pcmanfm but ask for sudo password, as it is the case when mounting windows parition
[10:32] <bl3ch> with user option in fstab it working
[10:32] <bl3ch> but i dont get prompted for sudo password
[10:32] <zhee_sharp> Hi friends, can  we use no-ip free dns service using CDMA modem (PPP) ... ? if we can use it, can you tell me how to configure it? I've installed NoIP DUC, but it cannot pointed to my computer, both using local ip or remote IP given by my provider (CDMA provider). Thanks ...
[10:33] <sakshi> reisio: What about a Turbo C++ Compiler on Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: did you add the 'user' option to the fstab entry?
[10:33] <reisio> sakshi: don't need it, we've got gcc
[10:34] <sakshi> reisio: ok. Thanks.
[10:36] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: yes, but it gets mount without asking for sudo password
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: that's what that option does
[10:36] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: how can i make it ask for sudo pasword then
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: remove the user option, then only root and sudo users will be able to mount it
[10:38] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: tried that too, but pcmanfm is saying "only administrator have the permission to do this" and doesn't prompt for password
[10:38] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: it is smbshare
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: then to mount it run:  sudo mount /mount/point    and it will mount.
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: are you using this as a security measure?
[10:40] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: gotcha
[10:41] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: i any one to mount it, unless they know my sudoer password
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: you could add it as a bookmark but tell the keyrng to not remember the pass
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: or even easier, give each user it's own account]
[10:42] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: dont that will be from cli, i want it from pcmanfm
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> bl3ch: not sure how, maybe the guys in #lubuntu will know a thing or 3
[10:42] <bl3ch> ActionParsnip: thanks a bunch :D
[10:44] <ArielX> hello all
[10:45] <ArielX> I install hostapd and working well. I am using ppp0 but not I wanted to use my wireless and found out that my PC wireless doesnt find any other connection available
[10:46] <ArielX> SCARED..... what do I do so I can use my pc WiFi to connect to my wireless browser(router) etc
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> ArielX: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     on the system without web access?
[10:48] <Benkinooby> hi, do i have to install language-pack-de to set german locales?
[10:48] <ArielX> hold checking
[10:48] <PrideAndSorrow> the ubuntu installation process is  misleading
[10:49] <ArielX> gz@Bd:~$ cat /etc/issue
[10:49] <ArielX> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:49] <ArielX> with web access
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: how?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ArielX: ok and withou?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ArielX: ok and without?
[10:52] <PrideAndSorrow> ActionParsnip, i chose insall ubuntu in place of windows,but then it was installed in a different partition  leaving windows as it is
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: so you want Ubuntu as the only OS?
[10:53] <PrideAndSorrow> ActionParsnip,  that's not the point, i wanted t keep the partition  where it was installed untouched
[10:54] <bosnjak> hi all
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: what version of Windows are you running?
[10:54] <bosnjak> to share my wireless connection over ethernet, do i need a crossover cable or a regular patch cable?
[10:54] <PrideAndSorrow> pirated windows 7 ultimate
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> bosnjak: if yu are connecting direct from PC to PC then you will need a crossover
[10:54] <ArielX_> ActionParsnip it's the same thing with web access ot not
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: if you resize your NTFS using Windows, you can install to the freed space
[10:55] <bosnjak> ActionParsnip: i see. thank you
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: any P2P connection will use crossover
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: what is the output of the command on the system with no web access please?
[10:56] <ArielX_> ActionParsnip sorry dont understand the gramma you issued me. seems to high fior my understanding. break it down.. sorry and thanks
[10:56] <OerHeks> PrideAndSorrow, you choose to replace windows, it didn't and installed side by side, and you want to keep the windows partition untouched as it is now?
[10:56] <ArielX_> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: ok and if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[10:56] <PrideAndSorrow> ActionParsnip,  too late now,i allready lost all files in /sdb3
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> PrideAndSorrow: restore from backup
[10:58] <InFlames> can anyone point me to a list of hibernation-compatible hardware?
[10:58] <ArielX_> bz@BENZINO:~$ sudo iwlist
[10:58] <ArielX_> Usage: iwlist [interface] scanning [essid NNN] [last]
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] frequency
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] channel
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] bitrate
[10:58] <ArielX_>               [interface] rate
[10:58] <FloodBot1> ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <bullicon> how do I check if MultiArch is enabled?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: read the command I gave, then the one you ran.....
[10:59] <bullicon> using Ubuntu 12.04
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> bullicon: its default
[10:59] <bullicon> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:59] <InFlames> !gist
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> bullicon: same as it is in Windows :)
[10:59] <InFlames> what's the command for the gist help?
[11:00] <bullicon> never knew :)
[11:00] <InFlames> on the bot
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: what wifi chip does the system use?
[11:00] <reisio> !paste
[11:00] <bullicon> so is there an average i/o ps one can check for io issues
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !brain | InFlames
[11:00] <bullicon> on another note
[11:00] <ArielX_> I dont understand your question
[11:01] <InFlames> I knew ActionParsnip would come to the rescue!
[11:01] <ArielX_>  ActionParsnip .. I dont understand your question
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: your wifi controller has a chip which processes the wifi signal
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: it is what you need drivers for to make the wifi work.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: what is the wireless chip your system uses?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: if you are unsure then:   sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[11:02] <malinus> So I've installed wine by running apt-get install wine. Then I checked the --version, and it said 1.4.1, next I checked their website, and it told me that the newest stable version is 1.6
[11:03] <malinus> I've both update and upgraded apt-get, didn't really help
[11:03] <reisio> malinus: what's the problem?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> malinus: what version of wine does the application you are intending to run work under?
[11:03] <malinus> reisio, that the apt-get installs an outdated version?
[11:03] <OerHeks> !info wine saucy
[11:03] <reisio> malinus: it's not outdated
[11:04] <malinus> I figured 1.4 is older then 1.6?
[11:04] <reisio> yup
[11:04] <malinus> so it's outdated - there is a newer version
[11:04] <reisio> making sure upstream didn't go insane, making binaries, this all takes time
[11:04] <reisio> it's trickle down
[11:04] <bullicon> always paranoid of packages installing libs when I run apt-get
[11:04] <reisio> and since you have no particular need for 1.6 over 1.4, it isn't a problem
[11:05] <popolon> hi
[11:05] <bullicon> how does Ubuntu take care of dependency clashes
[11:05] <popolon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1194370
[11:05] <malinus> No idea what that means, I just assume I want the newest version of all software, obviously. Because that's the idea behind updating software?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> ArielX_: use a pastebin, not only does it not scroll chats like crazy, but other users can see the output too and not just me
[11:05] <popolon> nobody has looked at this bug ?
[11:05] <reisio> malinus: yup
[11:05] <reisio> malinus: and 1.4 is the newest version easily available
[11:05] <ArielX_> how do I use the pastebin
[11:05] <bullicon> what if package x requires lib1.0 and package y requires lib0.9 -> does lib gets upgraded when I install pakcage x thus breaking packae y ?
[11:06] <k1l> bullicon: the maintainer does. but that does only count for origninal ubuntu packages, not PPAs or other 3rd party packages
[11:06] <malinus> reisio, with your logic, I might as well have installed ubuntu 10.00, because there isn't anything specific I want from 13.04
[11:06] <InFlames> ActionParsnip, wasn't there a bot response about http://gist.github.com?
[11:06] <reisio> malinus: nah
[11:06] <popolon> it make this package useless, as it doesn't work at all :/
[11:06] <reisio> malinus: my logic is don't find problems where there aren't any
[11:06] <reisio> not "use old things"
[11:06] <bullicon> k1l: so 3rd party packages could break my packages?
[11:06] <bullicon> or my ubuntu packages?
[11:06] <OerHeks> popolon, intel-microcode and amd-micocode do exist, intel_microcode does not.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> InFlames: not sure, you can add one if you want
[11:06] <k1l> bullicon: yes
[11:07] <OerHeks> popolon, check softwarecenter for the exact programname
[11:07] <k1l> bullicon: that is one of the risks of using 3rd party packages
[11:07] <malinus> reisio, I guess it just triggers my autism, but I just can't understand why in the world I would use older version of a software, when never *stable* version is available.
[11:07] <malinus> *newer
[11:07] <popolon> OerHeks, yes
[11:07] <popolon> that's the package intel-microcode
[11:07] <reisio> malinus: well upstream has its own definition of stable
[11:07] <reisio> which is usually not particularly stable
[11:08] <popolon> but the command line (in console : usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/intel_microcode: 136: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/intel_microcode: prepend_earlyinitramfs: not found)
[11:08] <reisio> malinus: they only compare the stability of Wine by itself
[11:08] <reisio> malinus: a distro has to make sure it works with every, other, package
[11:08] <OerHeks> popolon, so what package asks intel_microcode, as it is a typo-bug
[11:08] <reisio> malinus: different goals, different definitions of stable
[11:09] <malinus> reisio, sorry I still don't know what upstream is. But I think I get the idea. I use older version of wine, because the newer one, hasn't been checked with all the other packages yet?
[11:09] <reisio> malinus: upstream in this case is Wine, the Wine developers
[11:09] <popolon> that's at the time of a kernel update
[11:09] <reisio> Wine is stable to them when it does what they want on their particular boxes
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> malinus: what version of wine is the application you want to run, known to run well in?
[11:09] <popolon> Package: intel-microcode 1.20130222.3 (in the bug report)
[11:09] <reisio> Wine is stable to Ubuntu when it does what all Ubuntu users in all situations using Wine for all types of things can reasonably expect it to do things correctly
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> popolon: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:10] <malinus> reisio, so are ubuntu devs or wine devs responsible of deciding that?
[11:11] <reisio> malinus: but even outside of that there'd be a lag, between Wine developers (upstream) saying "okay, 1.6!" and Ubuntu people auditing all the changes, re-applying all their custom packages to make things correct on their end, and building binaries, and making them available
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> malinus: you do realise that wine doesn't work like that?
[11:11] <reisio> malinus: Ubuntu guys decide what goes into the repos, and when
[11:11] <popolon> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) \n \l
[11:11] <malinus> ActionParsnip, I haven't checked yet, sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just expected I wanted the newest version of all software.
[11:11] <malinus> ActionParsnip, and no, I haven't used wine yet.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> popolon: your support is not in here then. It is in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[11:11] <OerHeks> popolon, i read the bugreport, they talk about initramfs-tools but i see a typo bug.
[11:11] <reisio> malinus: but it's like that for a great many packages
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> malinus: later is not better in wine
[11:11] <popolon> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:11] <reisio> some are simpler than others, some are more reliably coded, but plenty aren't
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: you need to check which version of wine the application you want to run works in
[11:12] <popolon> OerHeks, ok, thanks
[11:12] <malinus> ActionParsnip, got it, thanks
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: some will work better in 1.4 than 1.6, then pushing for the latest is bogue
[11:12] <reisio> it's "better", but not necessarily so for any particular situation :p
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: some will work better in 1.4 than 1.6, then pushing for the latest is bogus
[11:12] <reisio> Wine is a real fast moving target, yeah
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> malinus: hence me asking, did you even check the wine appdb?
[11:12] <popolon> OerHeks, yes, need an initramfs update, but this could break lot of things...
[11:12] <reisio> I think he just wanted to use the latest in general, and didn't encounter an actual problem :D
[11:13] <bullicon> k1l: is there anyway I can dry run apt-get?
[11:13] <malinus> ActionParsnip, it works better with 1.6 then with my current installed 1.4 apparently.
[11:13] <bullicon> and then see what packages rely on what libs will be overridden?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> malinus: there is a wine ppa which you can add
[11:14] <k1l> bullicon: yes, there is a option for that. i dont know its out of my mind but the manpage will tell (man apt-get)
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> malinus: may want to ask in #winehq too
[11:17] <luox> %s
[11:23] <bullicon> k1l: cool thanks