[12:12] <c0nv1ct> orange1: yeah, that will be a problem
[12:12] <bet4> ok
[12:12] <arvid> how do I install "xorg-driver-fglrx (= 8.33.6-1)" apparently I only have 7.1.0-8.34.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-12.11
[12:12] <arvid> (whatever that means)
[12:12] <c0nv1ct> orange1: there are vnc servers for windows though
[12:12] <Arwen> bet4, try "btdownloadgui"
[12:12] <c0nv1ct> orange1: it makes for a pretty big security hole though
[12:12] <pynsa> hi folks
[12:13] <orange1> security hole on my desktop or on the school's connection?
[12:13] <xyverz> hullo pynsa
[12:13] <compilerwriter> !kernel | metty
[12:13] <ubotu> metty: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> arvid: it looks like you already have a newer version installed.
[12:13] <pynsa> how can i save profiles in konqueror 3.5.5.? i recently realised that the menu entries that allowed saving own profiles are gone...
[12:13] <pynsa> heyda xyverz
[12:13] <orange1> !vnc
[12:13] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> 7.1.0 is the xorg version, 8.34.8 is the driver version, and 2.6.20 maybe kernel version?
[12:14] <bet4> Arwen: command not found
[12:14] <acemo> is there anyway that i can set mplayer as default for all filetypes it supports?
[12:14] <arvid> Daisuke_Ido: then what does this error mean? http://pastebin.ca/407370
[12:14] <Arwen> bet4, damn it, this is irritating
[12:14] <orange1> c0nv1ct:  security hole on my desktop or on the school's connection?
[12:14] <orange1> !ssh
[12:14] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> orange1: look into FreeNX, thats what you want
[12:14] <bet4> Arwen: yeah, edgy only gave me problems so far compared to dapper at least
[12:14] <c0nv1ct> orange1: the security hole would be on your desktop, but there are ways to secure it better
[12:15] <bet4> im running fairly new hardware though
[12:15] <compilerwriter> arwen what is the trouble?
[12:15] <bet4> not too old not to new
[12:15] <Arwen> compilerwriter, the command line bittorrent has weird filenames :-\
[12:15] <bet4> too
[12:15] <orange1> !freenx
[12:15] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:15] <Arwen> bet4, try installing bittornado-gui too :-\
[12:15] <Daisuke_Ido> arvid: means it expects *exactly* that version of the driver
[12:15] <c0nv1ct> orange1: i believe i've seen a freenx client/server for windows too
[12:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not much on installing ati though...
[12:16] <bet4> Arwen: yep, only thing i could think of as well
[12:16] <compilerwriter> I have never used the command line torrent so I ges I shall have wish you luck and take a belt of scotch for you.
[12:16] <arvid> Daisuke_Ido: yes, and I just think I found the problem: "IMPORTANT: You have to recompile the kernel module after each kernel update! NOTE: the fglrx source code requires Linux 2.6.19 or lower. It is not yet prepared for 2.6.20.".
[12:16] <compilerwriter> s/ges/guess
[12:16] <Daisuke_Ido> that would be the problem
[12:16] <arvid> Daisuke_Ido: oh well - I'll just wait untill it works on 2.6.20
[12:16] <Arwen> bet4, turns out that the bittornado main is composed of tons of different commands all starting in bt.something
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> is there anything about 2.6.20 that's an absolute must-have?
[12:17] <Tm_T> Daisuke_Ido: basicly no
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:17] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, more hardware support? kernels aren't very exciting...
[12:17] <bet4> Arwen: i see
[12:17] <arvid> Daisuke_Ido: no :) But I'm going to bed now :P
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> heh
[12:17] <acemo> is there anyway that i can set mplayer as default for all filetypes it supports?
[12:17] <Daisuke_Ido> not exciting, no, but still potentially important
[12:17] <Tm_T> yup, most of the time new kernels just bring more hw support etc
[12:18] <orange1> c0nv1ct: the network at my school is very limited -- whats a safe port to use?
[12:18] <c0nv1ct> orange1: not sure, depends on how locked down your school network is
[12:18] <Arwen> acemo, not that I know of, that probably involves editing the mimetypes db...
[12:18] <compilerwriter> arwen take heart you will learn it eventually if you must.  The man page might be of some help if you ever need command line memory joggers for some reason.
[12:18] <bet4> does anyone have an idea why streaming media doesnt work for me? i installed w32codecs, all the gstreamer stuff im supposed to and the lbxinestuff
[12:19] <c0nv1ct> orange1: you may want to use port 80, that'll be open for sure
[12:19] <bet4> windows media stream works though
[12:19] <Arwen> compilerwriter, bah, I just use gui for bt :-\
[12:19] <c0nv1ct> orange1: but that may be blocked by your ISP at home
[12:19] <Arwen> compilerwriter, don't feel like memorizing 20 commands just for bittorrent
[12:19] <compilerwriter> I know the feeling.
[12:19] <Arwen> compilerwriter, yeah, I'm a fan of command lines in general
[12:20] <compilerwriter> Arwen typed like a Macintrash user.
[12:20] <Arwen> macintrash?
[12:20] <bet4> hm...ok crashed right away after launching
[12:20] <BluesKaj> how does one delete a whole load of empty files with a common name , but a different list number
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:21] <Arwen> BluesKaj, use rm with wildcards?
[12:21] <bet4> sudo aptitude remove --purge bittornado-gui
[12:21] <Arwen> e.g. to delete everything with "blue" in the name, you could do "rm *blue*"
[12:21] <compilerwriter> Then again arwen I am older than God's dog.  The first computer I cut my teeth on was a sequent mainframe with a regent20 terminal.
[12:21] <DominiK83> \join ubuntu.it
[12:21] <bet4> what a pile of rubbish :/
[12:21] <Arwen> compilerwriter, I used to be a Windows fan :-\
[12:21] <Arwen> still have a copy around for game
[12:21] <BluesKaj> ok Arwen thanks
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> going to have to check the new builds of wine, apparently they've fixed a lot of bugs in d3d
[12:22] <Arwen> yes
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe, just maybe, i can get the longest journey to run
[12:22] <Daisuke_Ido> as it is, i've been playing it on my fiancee's laptop
[12:22] <orange1> Daisuke_Ido: check if flash 8 professional works
[12:22] <Stormi> Could anyone give me a couple of hints on how to change my resolution? :/ I somehow buggered it up...
[12:23] <bet4> man, am i really cursed to use azureus?
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: there's still ktorrent :D
[12:23] <wolferine> Stormi, what type of card?
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, didn't work
[12:23] <wolferine> bet4, whats the issue?
[12:23] <Stormi> Nvidia Geforce 7xxx
[12:23] <Daisuke_Ido> have you tried the latest available from the site?
[12:23] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido:  well since i installed egy it doesnt conenct at all anymore (had dapper before)...i would be glad if i could use ktorrent
[12:23] <wolferine> upload or download issues?
[12:23] <bet4> edgy
[12:24] <wolferine> Stormi, you can do sudo nvidia-settings
[12:24] <bet4> edgy seems to give me a whole bunch of issues in general it seems
[12:24] <orange1> ktorrent kept giving me tracker error 3 and stopping my dl
[12:24] <wolferine> bet4, for example...
[12:24] <Stormi> I tried xrandr in konsole, but the options returned were no good..
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> mine just says "too many files open"
[12:25] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: yes i tried the latest available version didnt work
[12:25] <wolferine> Stormi, try what I said
[12:25] <Daisuke_Ido> 2 hours until we find out if my pc is hosed
[12:25] <Stormi> And Xrandr -s 1024x768 told me that wasnt an available mode :/
[12:25] <wolferine> Stormi, you have me on ignore?
[12:25] <dwidmann> Stormi, if you're using the nvidia driver (as opposed to vesa/nv), run the command "nvidia-settings"
[12:26] <wolferine> thanks dwidmann
[12:26] <bet4> wolferine: uhm, streaming media doenst work....flashplugin install dindt work (at least as its supposed to) amarok failed to iprocess several albums when building collection
[12:26] <dwidmann> or better
[12:26] <dwidmann> "sudo nvidia-settings"
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> o_O
[12:26] <bet4> uhm, graphic cards driver installation was strange as well
[12:26] <bet4> dunno
[12:26] <Stormi> Sorry, wolferine, what had you said? I missed it, let me check
[12:26] <wolferine> bet4,  I as asking more specifically about you Azerus issues
[12:26] <wolferine> and I am sorry to hear that
[12:26] <bet4> and ktorrent doesnt work anymore of course ;)
[12:27] <owner> ktorrent still works for me
[12:27] <dwidmann> heh, I missed it too :P
[12:27] <owner> on kubuntu 6.06
[12:27] <bet4> wolferine: oh ok sorry....uhm, i just dont like it much....it seems to take alot ressources and generally is too bloated with features i perosnally dont ever need
[12:27] <Daisuke_Ido> works on 6.10 here, but that means little
[12:28] <bet4> it might be great i dunno...its just not my taste i guess
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Arwen , not working;   /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[12:28] <wolferine> bet4 correct, thats all true
[12:28] <wolferine> unless you have 3GB of rAM :)
[12:28] <Arwen> BluesKaj, uh, weird, what exact command?
[12:28] <bet4> hehe
[12:28] <bet4> thats what it seemed like to me
[12:29] <wolferine> well, I liked utorrent, on my win machine
[12:29] <wolferine> its was handy
[12:29] <bet4> torrent? yes thats what i used on windows
[12:29] <bet4> but ktorrent seemed to be great
[12:29] <wolferine> but all torrent apps seem to suck the life outta a computer, same with kazza
[12:29] <bet4> if only it would work
[12:29] <wolferine> or what ever it was called
[12:29] <Arwen> wolferine, really? utorrent for Win32 runs very fast
[12:30] <wolferine> i never said fast
[12:30] <Arwen> and although a memory hog, azureus runs well too
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Arwen : rm *filename*
[12:30] <wolferine> but it was the best I had used...
[12:30] <Arwen> BluesKaj, hmm, try with one "*"
[12:30] <wolferine> torrent != fast
[12:30] <owner> test
[12:30] <wolferine> torrent == get anything
[12:30] <subone> whats a link to installing the third party codecs, the one from help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats is invalid.
[12:31] <bet4> which is another good gui client for linux beside bittornado, azureus qtorrent?
[12:31] <Arwen> subone, I might be able to tell you right here, what codecs?
[12:31] <Arwen> bet4, ktorrent?
[12:31] <wolferine> subone, use the ubuntu guide
[12:31] <dwidmann> subone, well, if you don't mind doing it by hand, you can find it at mplayerhq.hu
[12:31] <subone> all of them
[12:31] <Arwen> bet4, other than that, your choices are a little limited
[12:31] <subone> all the mplayer ones
[12:31] <bet4> Arwen: uhm, its the third time now i tell you ktorrent doesnt work for me i think x)
[12:31] <Arwen> subone, w32codecs, mplayerhq.hu (thought it was ru?)
[12:31] <subone> Yea I used to know the link to an mplayer kubuntu one
[12:31] <bet4> which is the only reason im looking for a different onme
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/index.php
[12:32] <Arwen> bet4, sorry, you didn't list it - your choices are a little limited
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i haven't used it personally, but it looks fairly streamlined
[12:32] <bet4> arwen: np didnt want to sound rude
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> based on bittornado
[12:33] <dwidmann> Oh, and subone, the tar.bz2 of the win32 codecs on mplayerhq.hu, you need to extract it to /usr/lib/win32
[12:33] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: it isnt in the repos so i dont even bother at the moment, thx though
[12:33] <wolferine> subone, google ubuntu guide
[12:33] <wolferine> it gives them all you need
[12:34] <wolferine> and then some
[12:37] <crazy1291> Hi, I have been trying to add another slave drive to this comp, and it is kinda working...but not completely
[12:38] <crazy1291> It is recognized in Bios and Kubuntu sees it but I cannot mount it
[12:38] <mike__> Iwireless for "atheros" in herd 5 is a little flakey
[12:39] <crazy1291> Is there a simple command that makes Kubuntu mount the secondary hard disk?
[12:40] <crazy1291> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:40] <crazy1291> Please check that the device is plugged correctly.
[12:41] <Mena> Why when i update,  doesnt update my kernel to 2.6.20 instead of 2.6.17
[12:41] <bet4> what do have to install via pt to get mldonkey?
[12:41] <mervteck> anyone here play Unreal2k4 on Linux?
[12:41] <bet4> apt
[12:41] <Arwen> no
[12:41] <Arwen> would, but I don't buy software
[12:42] <mervteck> lols
[12:42] <bet4> i has the guifrontends but no mldonkey itself
[12:42] <mervteck> Unreal games are worth it!
[12:42] <mervteck> they work great in linux and its not an emulation!
[12:42] <bet4> it has gkrellm-mldonkey
[12:42] <bet4> thats the right one?
[12:43] <bet4> nope it isnt
[12:43] <bet4> thats hilarious the repos serve several gui frontends but not the program itself
[12:43] <bet4> i could kick ubuntu to the trash bin at the moment
[12:44] <Shaezsche> how can i upgrade from the latest alpha to the new beta?
[12:44] <Shaezsche> dist upgrade possible?
[12:45] <nixternal> Shaezsche: sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:45] <Shaezsche> i just did that, it doesnt
[12:45] <nixternal> Shaezsche: if you have been doing the upgrades on a daily basis you are good to go
[12:45] <Shaezsche> oh!
[12:45] <Shaezsche> so i am using theb eta....?
[12:45] <Shaezsche> lol
[12:45] <nixternal> Shaezsche: yes, that is because there was a freeze for the past day or so for beta
[12:45] <nixternal> Shaezsche: as long as you sudo apt-get update and there is nothing to upgrade, you are newer than beta :)
[12:46] <Shaezsche> hey, is 10% non-contiguous abnormal?
[12:47] <waylandbill> beta is out as of today. play with it if you're daring. :-D
[12:48] <Arwen> Shaezsche, kind of
[12:48] <Arwen> I've gotton to 35%
[12:48] <Shaezsche> OMFG
[12:48] <Shaezsche> is there a way to fix it?
[12:49] <Arwen> Shaezsche, it's not actually a performance issue, don't bother
[12:49] <Arwen> on ext2/3, fragmented files usually stay near their shards, so the performance hit is negligible
[12:49] <Shaezsche> well, i suspect my HD doesnt support journaling
[12:49] <Shaezsche> i read about it on a forum post
[12:49] <Mena> waylandbill, i just updated my edgy how to upgrade to fiesty beta is there a tool , right ? if there what its name ?
[12:49] <Shaezsche> its a 120gb samsung notebook HD
[12:49] <Shaezsche> seems to work fine for me
[12:49] <Arwen> Shaezsche, it's not your HD that doesn't support journals, it's your filesystem
[12:49] <Arwen> the journal is just a section of your HDD dedicated to logging
[12:49] <Shaezsche> arwen i know that, but i heard my HDD doesnt
[12:50] <Shaezsche> its possible
[12:50] <Shaezsche> a strange HD bug
[12:50] <Shaezsche> nothing to do with software
[12:50] <Arwen> wtf? that makes no sense, the journal only has special meaning to the fs, it's just 1s and 0s
[12:50] <Shaezsche> i dunno man
[12:50] <Shaezsche> but i read it
[12:50] <Shaezsche> ill find you the post
[12:50] <Mena> or any one esle :)
[12:50] <waylandbill> Mena: not yet. you have to change sources to feisty. The upgrade tool is in the works
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> waylandbill: i'm testing it as we speak
[12:51] <Mena> waylandbill, ok Thanks :)
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> the download is taking a bit, however...
[12:51] <wolferine> where are icons saved?
[12:51] <Shaezsche> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1837696&highlight=samsung#post1837696 scroll down to the post by Roach7ka
[12:52] <Shaezsche> Arwen you still with me?
[12:52] <waylandbill> Mena: I've made code changes to it. so I can tell you it's in the works. :)
[12:52] <Arwen> Shaezsche, yeah, sorry
[12:52] <waylandbill> I have to sleep, so I have to run.
[12:52] <Mena> waylandbill, ok :)
[12:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, that means i can blame waylandbill if this crashes :)
[12:53] <DominiK83> ciao a tutti
[12:53] <Mena> waylandbill, the upgrading also in the test right its not sure if it was safe yet ?
[12:53] <Arwen> Shaezsche, I think he's mistaken :-\
[12:53] <Shaezsche> well that might be, but ive read other posts with ppl having acpi problems
[12:53] <compilerwriter> ktorrent keeps stalling on me.  Is it not playing well with edgy?
[12:53] <Shaezsche> and they have my HD
[12:53] <Shaezsche> i can ONLY use a 386 kernel
[12:53] <Shaezsche> for some reason, all others wont speedstep
[12:53] <wolferine> where are icons saved?
[12:54] <SilentM> wolferine: /usr/share/pixmaps ?
[12:55] <Mena> wolferine, home>>$use$>.kde>icons
[12:55] <Shaezsche> what does this command do "acpi_fake_ecdt=1"
[12:56] <Mena> wolferine, if you was taliking abou the ThemeIcons
[12:56] <wolferine> i wasnt
[12:56] <wolferine> SilentM, got it
[12:56] <Mena> ok :)
[12:57] <ozgur> good night
[12:57] <ozgur> help me please
[12:57] <ozgur> iyi geceler
[12:57] <VorelAesthyr> ozgur whats the problem?
[12:58] <ozgur> m wannt listen to amarok mp3
[12:58] <ozgur> but wannt codec
[12:58] <Mena> Thanks People ..Bye
[12:59] <ozgur> kubuntu 3.5.2
[12:59] <Arwen> ozgur, install libxine-extracodecs
[12:59] <ozgur> how
[12:59] <ozgur> ??
[12:59] <Arwen> apt-get install <package>
[12:59] <ozgur> you give me html adress
[12:59] <Arwen> !mp3 > ozgur
[12:59] <Arwen> !apt > ozgur
[01:00] <ozgur> again please
[01:00] <ozgur>  understandt not you
[01:00] <Mena> Hey plz some see this error    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11771/
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ozgur: what's your native language?
[01:01] <ozgur> trkish
[01:02] <ozgur> trke bilen yok mu?
[01:02] <Mena> Did some one saw the erorr
[01:03] <Mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11771/
[01:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ozgur: you can try #ubuntu.tr or http://www.ubuntu-tr.com
[01:04] <ozgur> close
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[01:04] <ozgur>  see first but close
[01:05] <ozgur> daisuke are you japan?
[01:05] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[01:05] <ozgur> :)
[01:05] <ozgur> thanks
[01:06] <ozgur> daisuke help me please
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome.  sorry i couldn't be of more help
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[01:06] <Daisuke_Ido> !mp3 > Daisuke_Ido
[01:06] <Mena> Hey plz some see this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11771/
[01:06] <ozgur>  wannt live my with penguin
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ozgur: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[01:08] <ozgur> http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources
[01:08] <ozgur> you tell me please how activate?
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> you're using kde, right?
[01:09] <ozgur> right
[01:09] <ozgur> 3.5.2
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu 6.06?
[01:09] <ozgur> no
[01:10] <ozgur> kde 3.5.2
[01:11] <ozgur> thanks daisuke
[01:12] <ozgur>  wannt see
[01:12] <ozgur> net
[01:18] <familia> alguem br?
[01:18] <Mr_Sonoma> how do i play .wmv on linux? i've seen a website about it before but cant remember where i seen it.
[01:19] <mervteck> can u guys tell me what can unpack RAR files?
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> mervteck: unrar
[01:19] <familia> sudo apt-get install rar
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Mr_Sonoma: might want to check out VLC media player
[01:20] <mervteck> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[01:20] <slylyias> I can't install tor, when I do sudo apt-get install tor I get an error "tor: Depends: tsocks but it is not installable"
[01:20] <slylyias> What do I do?
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> !rar > mervteck
[01:21] <mervteck> !info unrar-free
[01:21] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:21] <familia> algum do Brasil testou o beta do kubuntu?
[01:21] <arman> any body hav any idea how to install fir fox for kubuntu?
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> k, so you'll have to enable the universe repository
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> arman: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:21] <slylyias> How do I enable the universe repo?
[01:22] <arman> whe do i get sudo apt-get/
[01:22] <arman> ?
[01:22] <Mr_Sonoma> sudo apt-get is a command
[01:22] <Mr_Sonoma> use it in your terminal window
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> !repositories > slylyias
[01:22] <arman> oh ok
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Mr_Sonoma: thank you
[01:22] <familia> does someone here talk portuguese?
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Mr_Sonoma: VLC help at all?
[01:23] <Mr_Sonoma> np..that was one i knew the answer to =)
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> familia: #ubuntu-br i think
[01:23] <mervteck> ok i installed unrar-free but what do i type in when i try to run it or open a rar with it
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, there's still a whole lot i don't know
[01:23] <slylyias> !info tsocks
[01:23] <ubotu> tsocks: transparent network access through a SOCKS 4 or 5 proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8beta5-2 (edgy), package size 209 kB, installed size 548 kB
[01:23] <slylyias> Okay, so I do need to enable the universe and that should solve it, right?
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> should do, yes
[01:24] <orange1> FYI: NEW!! dell drivers are out for wifi
[01:24] <slylyias> thank you
[01:24] <mervteck> ewwwww dell!
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> mervteck: unrar?
[01:24] <fish__> kubuntu feisty beta = beauty <3
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> mervteck: say what you will, their laptops aren't bad
[01:24] <orange1> exactly - dell is only good for monitors + lappys
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> fish__: don't rub it in, i'm still waiting for it all to download :D
[01:24] <Mr_Sonoma> im reading about the vlc program now.
[01:25] <Mr_Sonoma> thank you
[01:25] <mervteck> only the XPS's are ok, as well as monitors, desktops they might as well just blow them up in a hole
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> 65%
[01:25] <fish__> Daisuke_Ido: aww, hehe. I installed it a few hours ago but only could test it now...it's great, so far
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm looking at a dell laptop.  my fiancee bought her toshiba (eww) for $1300 a couple years back, i'm thinking i can put together a good laptop for less than a grand :)
[01:26] <orange1> also new ndiswrapper version is out today! wow did i pick a good day to reformat cuz of wifi issues...
[01:26] <fish__> missing a linuxdcpp deb file, but other than that...awesome :)
[01:27] <Daisuke_Ido> never been much for dc++ myself
[01:27] <slylyias> I live on a college campus, DC++ is life.
[01:27] <fish__> yeah, it is <3
[01:27] <slylyias> fish what campus you from?
[01:27] <mervteck> anyone up for teachin meh some C++? =D
[01:27] <fish__> switzerland...st. gallen
[01:27] <mervteck> ready and willing!
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> dc++ != c++ :D
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> directconnect
[01:28] <mervteck> =O
[01:28] <fish__> what hub u b using slylyias?
[01:29] <orange1> lol
[01:29] <slylyias> my campus has a hub
[01:29] <fish__> oh wow...no k3b 1.0 for feisty?
[01:29] <slylyias> only on the intranet
[01:29] <fish__> slylyias: I see...hehe, that's pretty cool
[01:29] <slylyias> IS feisty released now or still beta?
[01:29] <fish__> still beta
[01:29] <orange1> still alpha?
[01:29] <slylyias> Keeps the RIAA off our backs.
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> just went beta today
[01:29] <slylyias> ah, cool
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> but then again, ubuntu beta > MS retail
[01:30] <slylyias> I've still not gotten edgy running right, so not going feisty.
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> but i didn't officially say that
[01:30] <fish__> private hubs and encryption keep the RIAA off your back anyway, no intranet needed
[01:30] <slylyias> I can't access my external hard drive, can use my TV tuner card, can't get tor working to bypass the irc port blockage of my campus....
[01:30] <familia> if I upgrade kubuntu edgy in portuguese to the kubuntu feisty beta, it will still be in portuguese?
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i've never had any luck with dc++, i think that's why i've been turned off to it
[01:31] <slylyias> so I'm still working on my comp
[01:31] <fish__> linuxdc++ is a *great* dc client...the best for linux (by far!)
[01:31] <orange1> can someone explain this?
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i have never gotten a single file to download, even with sharing 100gb+
[01:31] <fish__> 1.0 should be out soon
[01:31] <fish__> only the translations are missing...
[01:31] <orange1> orange@FruitBowl:~$ sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:31] <orange1> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: Permission denied
[01:31] <arman> hey im trying to install macromedia for kubuntu
[01:31] <arman> and this is what it is saying
[01:31] <arman> NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[01:31] <arman>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[01:31] <arman> chmod: cannot access `/home/arman/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory
[01:32] <enotee> if i'm going to set a dual boot with  XP wich os should i load first
[01:32] <fish__> xp
[01:33] <ConstyXIV> can you have the little tooltips on the taskbar show previews of the windows?
[01:33] <Alonea> allo
[01:34] <fish__> bedtime, nite guys. great beta, thanks! zzZzzZzzZzzz....
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ConstyXIV: with plain old kde, no.  beryl can, though
[01:34] <familia> is there a brazilian ubuntu irc?
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !br | familia
[01:35] <ubotu> familia: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> there we go
[01:35] <ConstyXIV> Daisuke_Ido: wonderful.  me without my opengl-less gfxchip.  opera can do it though
[01:35] <ConstyXIV> with tabs that is
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think it's that kde *can't* do it, just that it doesn't
[01:36] <familia> Obrigado, ubotu!
[01:36] <Alonea> Ok, gonna try one more time to fix this before reformatting system. Adept uninstalled my fglrx and now I can't get it to reinstally my video card. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/  Even Envy gets same error. and I DO have all those packages.
[01:37] <user_> hey all qucik question, i have a pc which i am abt to install kubuntu on, but it is a dual core chip.  to take advantage of this chip, is there an alternate installation cd i should be using?  ie 64
[01:38] <smoze> nope
[01:38] <Alonea> user_: there IS a 64bit version, but I didn't care for it myself...
[01:38] <user_> see that 64bit version, is that only for AMD based???
[01:39] <arman> does anyone know how to install macromedia flash for kubuntu?
[01:39] <user_> becasue i would like to take advantage of 64bit computing, so wondering in advance
[01:39] <Alonea> user_: not sure. I guess. most people with 64 have amd64...i guess you could try it if you wanted, but I think you will be better off with regular
[01:39] <user_> but regular wont utilize the chip, will it?
[01:39] <smoze> i have dual core and i installed regular... works fine
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> there's no pressing reason to use the 64 bit distro unless you have >4gb ram
[01:40] <Daisuke_Ido> it will use both cores, yes
[01:40] <wdq> guys, my mouse isn't working
[01:40] <Alonea> user_: yeah, it will do that, but if you want 64bit video stuff....*shudder*
[01:41] <wdq> my mouse suddenly ceased working, anyway to get it to work short of rebooting?
[01:41] <user_> 4gb of ram!?  no way...... crap.  and im on another dual core pc right now, and yah its the normal distro and works fine, but i worry abt multitasking
[01:42] <wdq> user_: 64bit and dual core are two different things
[01:42] <user_> thats why on the other pc i wanted to try it out on 64bit
[01:42] <wdq> 64 is increase cpu command length
[01:42] <user_> erm...... say waht now?  seriously?
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> user_: there's no real compelling reason (YET) to use the 64 bit version.  plus, there's no flash, no wine, and a few other problems
[01:43] <wdq> ya because there are 64 bit as opposed to 32 bit more memory can be accessed
[01:43] <user_> iccc.... so wait on 32 bit mode it fully utilizes the dual core?
[01:43] <wdq> 32 bit commands*
[01:43] <wdq> 64 bit and dual core have nothing to do with each other
[01:43] <user_> oooo.... crap, i didnt know that
[01:43] <wdq> except any processor which is dual core likely also has a 64 bit architecture built in
[01:44] <user_> dang....  well thatnks all for straightening that one out
[01:44] <user_> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:44] <user_> ic ic
[01:44] <wdq> you can still give 64 bit a try
[01:44] <user_> ok thats where the confusion is
[01:44] <wdq> supposedly is much faster
[01:44] <slylyias> I am using the 64 bit because I didn't hear this conversation before. :(
[01:44] <wdq> although getting some things to work is a hassle
[01:44] <user_> meh, as long as the dual core is utilized in 32 bit i, thats all that matters
[01:44] <slylyias> Already installed 64 bit and can't get stuff working yet.
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> wdq: like i said, flash, wine, etc.
[01:44] <wdq> actually
[01:45] <BluesKaj> I mistakenly ended up with a list of vob files when trying to copy a dvd...now I have what looks lie vob file for every frame that as copied before i realized my mistake ...now my /home/username file is full of empty .vob files . Can I remove these files with a commands in the terminal instead doing thousands of mouse clicks to delete them ?
[01:45] <wdq> UT2k4 has a linux native 64 bit version
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: rm *.vob
[01:45] <slylyias> bluesKAj: rm *.vob
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe
[01:45] <bet4> how do i open several bookmarks in tabs at once?
[01:45] <slylyias> Hey, it's rare I know an answer in here Daisuke_Ido
[01:45] <bet4> in konqi
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> it's okay
[01:46] <slylyias> That one I could handle. :)
[01:46] <wdq> my mouse suddenly ceased working, anyway to get it to work short of rebooting?
[01:46] <user_> ok sounds good, im just going to go ahead with the normal alternate cd and set up a dual boot.  thanks everyone for the feeback
[01:46] <user_> !
[01:46] <wdq> I'm just lucky I had this window open
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> wdq: give it cheese, that always works for mine.
[01:46] <wdq> srsly.
[01:46] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido  , bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[01:46] <wdq> I have yakuake open
[01:47] <wdq> what would be the command to restart mouse drivers or something?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i can always tell when my mouse stops working because the network dies.  gotta keep the router running somehow, and i'm cheap.
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> you could always ctrl-alt-backspace to restart kdm, that's about the only thing i can think of
[01:47] <wdq> grr
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> quicker tan rebooting at least
[01:47] <wdq> prolly what I'll do
[01:47] <wdq> adios
[01:48] <BluesKaj> slylyias , well I'm afraid to disappoint you .. bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long :(
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: open konqueror and do it the windows way.  change the view to detailed list and click on the first, shift-click the last and shift-delete
[01:48] <slylyias> BlueKaj: rm *.vob
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i hate recommending someone do that, but it's a possibility
[01:48] <Daisuke_Ido> slylyias: it didn't work
[01:49] <slylyias> if you're getting that and getting an argument list too long, you had a space in there, or you've aliased rm to something else
[01:50] <slylyias> I need an IRC client that supports proxies, which should I us Daisuke_Ido?
[01:50] <BluesKaj> no I didn't alias rm to do anything else
[01:50] <slylyias> use even
[01:50] <smoze> speaking of removing files... how do i remove a file wich has invalid name?
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> slylyias: kvirc or xchat?
[01:51] <slylyias> Thansk, just installed kvirc anyhow
[01:51] <slylyias> so that will work
[01:51] <slylyias> brb
[01:51] <Daisuke_Ido> awww yeah.  download done, upgrading now :D
[01:52] <bet4> does anyone using mldonkey in here or kdmldonkey for that matter?
[01:52] <SuN> Am I correct in assuming 6.10 is the preferred version for a relatively stable desktop?
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want rock solid stability, there's 6.06
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> 6.10 gets newer stuff, but still really stable
[01:53] <orange1> i wouldnt say 'really stable'
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> relatively stable
[01:53] <Daisuke_Ido> compared to windows :D
[01:53] <SuN> Heh, what kind of issues am I looking at?
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> personally i haven't run into any
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> but i know people have issues with torrent clients
[01:54] <epimeth> is there a jigdo download for feisty beta?
[01:54] <firephoto> SuN: how stable are you looking for?
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> other miscellaneous problems that i'm not sure about
[01:54] <SuN> Hm, well this is going to be a business desktop.
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> 6.06
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> no question
[01:54] <pyrotix> ya
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> long term support
[01:54] <orange1> im going to test the stability of edgy right now - reboot should take 41-43 seconds -- but i installed wifi drivers and its time to watch it take 3-4 minutes
[01:55] <pyrotix> you wwant dapper
[01:55] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: was that a joke towards my direction or is it really a common problem  that bittorrent doenst work?
[01:55] <SuN> Alright then... but am I not going to run into outdated stuff?
[01:55] <bet4> im just curious
[01:55] <pyrotix> SuN: personally I've found gnome more stable than kde
[01:55] <firephoto> SuN: it still depends on what you're doing with it. yes, you'll be a bit outdate with stuff.
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: yours isn't the first time i've heard that
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> not joking
[01:56] <SuN> Well I'll be running a fairly limited set of applications, I guess.
[01:56] <bet4> as i really seem to have problems running any torrent-client aside from azureus
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> a bit outdated, but still well ahead of debian stable :)
[01:56] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: oh ok, interesting
[01:56] <reagleBRKLN> having trouble with my samba configs working in feisty beta...
[01:56] <firephoto> konqueror has improved quite a bit in the last year.
[01:56] <SuN> Firefox or Opera, Crossover office with MS Office, kpdf and Thunderbird, that's about it (I realize that's a lot of GTK apps)
[01:57] <bet4> a general question is 1 GB not really enough for kde in the default configuration kubuntu installs?
[01:57] <SuN> I run KDE on Slamd64 on this desktop and it does not ever crash on me, should I expect that from either Dapper or Edgy?
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: no, not really, not if you want room to expand
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> SuN: more likely with dapper than edgy
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> the only times i've had kde issues were when playing around with beryl
[01:58] <SuN> I guess there aren't any statistics? ;)
[01:58] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: bummer....i need to turn of some the eye candy...hope that helps
[01:58] <compilerwriter> bet4 I am having troubles with torrent as well.
[01:58] <ConstyXIV> SuN: the only gtk you mentioned are firefox and thinderbird
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: wait
[01:58] <bet4> its slow too often
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> hdd space or ram?
[01:58] <SuN> That's half of them :)
[01:59] <bet4> compilerwriter: wow thats great! ;)
[01:59] <Alonea> Ok, gonna try one more time to fix this before reformatting system. Adept uninstalled my fglrx and now I can't get it to reinstally my video card. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/  Even Envy gets same error. and I DO have all those packages.
[01:59] <SuN> Crossover too if you count static apps.
[01:59] <orange1> 1m42s to boot -- why Daisuke_Ido, o why...
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> bet4: if you're talking about ram, i have 1gb and use beryl with no slowdown at all
[01:59] <ConstyXIV> crossover uses win32
[01:59] <bet4> compilerwriter:  not really though...but at least its not me being braindead again (this time at least) ;)
[01:59] <compilerwriter> bet4 not at all great, but at least you know you probably didn't do it.
[01:59] <SuN> If I install Dapper, is it possible to seamlesly update it to Edgy or another stable release if I choose to do so?
[02:00] <SuN> seamlessly even
[02:00] <firephoto> SuN: should be ok.
[02:00] <SuN> Alright, I guess I'll go with Dapper first then.
[02:00] <bet4> compilerwriter: yup thats what i meant ;) hope you get it fixed...did you try azureus...i dont like it a bit...but its the only one working so far here
[02:00] <firephoto> SuN: i'd start with edgy unless you're needing long term support.
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> firephoto: this is for a business desktop, so stability > newness
[02:00] <orange1> alot of wires get crossed in the background... why not just try dapper -- then format again for edgy
[02:00] <firephoto> edgy is better, just no lts tag.
[02:01] <compilerwriter> bet4 does it have a gui?
[02:01] <arman> hey im a first time user how shud i play my media files on kubuntu?
[02:01] <bet4> Daisuke_Ido: hm, its really slow for me sometimes 2.4 GH z PIV and 1 GB ram....maybe turning the settings down a bit will help
[02:01] <ConstyXIV> arman: amarok and kaffiene
[02:01] <firephoto> arman: video, kaffeine is the default.  audio goes to amarok.
[02:01] <compilerwriter> bet4 I have sent apt to get it azureus.
[02:01] <arman> but it says some file missing
[02:01] <ConstyXIV> arman: amarok == music manager, kaffiene is video
[02:02] <ConstyXIV> arman: oh
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> vlc for video :D
[02:02] <ConstyXIV> !restrictedformats | arman
[02:02] <ubotu> arman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <orange1> beryl is really fast for me since the format... c2d 2.16ghz / 2gb ddr2 667mhz
[02:02] <pyrotix> I hate kaffeine
[02:02] <bet4> compiler: the biggest bloated one you could imagine...its java....it needs too much ressources and it comes with a billion of features nobody probably really ever needs
[02:02] <bet4> hm, ktorrent was neat
[02:02] <arman> i want to play mp3 formats
[02:02] <SuN> Hm, with the risk of wanting to be bleeding edge on a business desktop... is the amd64 version multilib? :)
[02:02] <arman> but it says it doesnt work
[02:02] <pyrotix> ktorrent ftw
[02:02] <ConstyXIV> arman: install libxine-extracodecs
[02:03] <arman> wher do i find that?
[02:03] <pyrotix> adept/synaptic/ apt-get
[02:03] <ConstyXIV> arman: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs, or find it in adept if you want
[02:03] <ConstyXIV> arman: first one is done in the Konsole
[02:03] <firephoto> SuN: I wouldn't even bother with amd64 unless you need the performance from building or encoding stuff. multimedia isn't so smooth there if you need that.
[02:03] <arman> thank you :)
[02:04] <ConstyXIV> no problem
[02:04] <compilerwriter> bet4 what is the command line to fire it up.  I am doing X over ssh from the inlaws house.
[02:04] <SuN> Well it's a business desktop, so that's not really an issue. It's just that I'd be needing a 32bit browser so I can have Flash.
[02:05] <SuN> Or experiment with 64bit firefox and that 32bit plugin interface, but that sounds risky.
[02:05] <arman> constyXIV> i try to play it on amarok but it just plays and in one second it says playlist finsihed
[02:05] <firephoto> stick with the i386 version. you won't notice a difference for normal use.
[02:05] <SuN> Alright, I guess I'll do that.
[02:06] <bet4> compilerwriter: im a complete noob...but i think a simple "azureus" will do
[02:06] <bet4> wait...
[02:06] <bet4> compilerwriter: it does for me
[02:06] <ConstyXIV> arman: have you restarted amarok after installing that?
[02:06] <bet4> "azureus"
[02:06] <SuN> Thanks for the input!
[02:06] <ConstyXIV> i use mldonkey for torrents, since it runs as a daemon
[02:07] <arman> yes i have
[02:07] <compilerwriter> good Lord it does hog resources
[02:07] <bet4> ConstyXIV: i tried that too...having a client for all networks sounds tempting..and it didnt seem bloated in the klmdonkey version...but unfortunately it didnt connect as well
[02:08] <bet4> compilerwriter: yes its a complet epile of rubbish imho
[02:08] <ConstyXIV> arman: go to help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, and follow those instructions
[02:08] <compilerwriter> It appears to be a complete epile of excrement.
[02:08] <bet4> hehe
[02:08] <tuxligo> no, use ktorrent for torrent
[02:08] <arman> thank u
[02:09] <ConstyXIV> personally, i think azureus is utter crap
[02:09] <firephoto> it does work good though
[02:09] <bet4> ConstyXIV: what did you put in as location for mlnet if i might ask...maybe i messed that up?
[02:09] <ConstyXIV> bet4: ?
[02:09] <bet4> ConstyXIV: in mldonkey i mean...or dont you use a gui?
[02:09] <firephoto> latest ktorrent seems to be working ok again too, had some issues for a few versions.
[02:10] <ConstyXIV> bet4: oh, do you mean the core?
[02:10] <arman> thank you everyone bye
[02:10] <Mena> Can Some one see this error plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1177
[02:10] <bet4> ConstyXIV: yes
[02:10] <SuN> Helaas, de door U gevraagde pagina kon niet worden gevonden.
[02:11] <ConstyXIV> bet4: i'll either use the web interface (pretty decent actually) at http://localhost:4080, or use the kmldonkey, connecting to localhost
[02:11] <firephoto> Mena: bad url ?
[02:11] <Mena> firephoto , i dont know this is my source lst ..sc plz
[02:12] <ConstyXIV> bet4: if you want, ill just put my config for kmldonkey in the pastebin
[02:12] <firephoto> Mena: no, that pastebin url doesn't work...
[02:12] <Mena> ohhh okay
[02:12] <Mena> sec plz
[02:13] <bet4> ConstyXIV: hm i put in /home/beta/.mldonkey/ and /usr/bin/mlnet as a path to mlnet..putting a hostname in there sounds weird to me?
[02:13] <bet4> but ill give it a go
[02:13] <bet4> ConstyXIV: if you dont mind.. it cant hurt i guess
[02:13] <bet4> i would like to test this program as im using soulseek from time to time
[02:13] <ConstyXIV> bet4: the hostname is what you want, it's designed to be remote-able
[02:15] <ConstyXIV> bet4: actually, i have no clue where the config is
[02:16] <ConstyXIV> just follow the wizard, or run mlnet and load up the webui
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> pray for me
[02:16] <Skuller> ForgeAus: you there man??
[02:17] <ConstyXIV> Daisuke_Ido: May You be Touched by His Noodly Appendage.  RAmen :)
[02:17] <Skuller> ForgeAus: i need some serious help!!!
[02:18] <Mena> firephoto, Hey this is my source list and the error i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11785/
[02:21] <firephoto> Mena: i think it's a problem with your firewall maybe, or a proxy. doesn't seem to just happen on the ubuntu repos.
[02:22] <Mena> i dont use proxy or even use a firewall prog
[02:22] <firephoto> might just be the servers stressing under the beta load. you could try another mirror besides 'eg' maybe.
[02:23] <Mena> i dont but if it was bec of strees i will wait
[02:24] <Mena> i dont know*
[02:24] <firephoto> http://eg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/source/Sources.gz shows up here as a gz file.
[02:25] <firephoto> Mena: i think you get the error because it downloads as html. seems to be what happens to others when i searched for that error.
[02:25] <Mena> okay so
[02:27] <kofler> What could this possibly mean? http://phpfi.com/218856
[02:27] <firephoto> kofler: is that bluetooth logs or something?
[02:28] <kofler> firephoto: As it clearly says in the description, "When I called ssh -vvv user@server and got the following. What could possibly be wrong?"
[02:29] <firephoto> kofler: ahh, missed the part in the blue header. .. nevermind then.
[02:34] <Alonea> my friend is building his own computer and was wondering if most video cards work with linux? he was thinking an nvidia geforce 7950 gt.
[02:35] <posingaspopular> Alonea, google linux compatablity list
[02:35] <posingaspopular> you'll find a site that help out with that
[02:36] <posingaspopular> i forgot the url
[02:36] <Jisao> Is that the proper command to copy drive A on drive B:  sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb ?
[02:36] <Alonea> posingaspopular: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/ ?
[02:36] <posingaspopular> sounds about right
[02:38] <jmichaelx> Alonea: you should have no problems with annything from nvidia
[02:38] <intelikey> well i think i did it.    anyone want to test a script that could potentally hose your whole box ?   heh
[02:39] <intelikey> requires a free partition.
[02:39] <Alonea> jmichaelx: alright. shall tell him
[02:40] <intelikey> didn't much figure i would get more than 40 or 50 violenteers in here  hehhe
[02:40] <Mena> firephoto, thanks :)
[02:40] <Mena> Bye
[02:40] <soulrider_> intelikey: volunteers for what ?
[02:41] <intelikey> testing my "migrate.sh" script
[02:41] <soulrider_> i see
[02:41] <soulrider_> yeah i just scrolled up :P
[02:41] <soulrider_> if i had a free partition i would totally help you
[02:41] <intelikey> that's either very brave or very false    lol
[02:42] <soulrider_> i wouldnt lie to you
[02:42] <soulrider_> i really dont care about forking up my PC
[02:42] <soulrider_> unless i screw up hardware
[02:42] <soulrider_> software, its all good, it doesnt cost me any money
[02:43] <intelikey> i don't see any way it could break anything but it sure could leave you booting a live CD and reinstalling.    i tried to make sure it wouldn't "IF" the correct answers to the questions it ask are given....
[02:44] <Arwen> anyone here?
[02:44] <Arwen> !feisty
[02:44] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:44] <Arwen> !seveas
[02:44] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:44] <Arwen> ick
[02:44] <intelikey> Arwen wb.
[02:44] <Arwen> intelikey, hello
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> ...
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> feisty is, so far, not my friend
[02:45] <Jisao> what's your script, intelikey
[02:45] <Arwen> so, has anyone here used feisty?
[02:45] <beta> ConstyXIV: when using mldonkey webinterface what should mldonkey do after you put an utl in the download section?
[02:45] <intelikey> Jisao have a look.
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: yeah, using it now, and had to drop back to nv
[02:46] <Daisuke_Ido> going to see if i can install the proprietary driver and make this work
[02:46] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, hmm, so you would say that you do not recommend upgrading now?
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i won't say that, but the upgrade tool crashed on me
[02:47] <Arwen> hmm
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> going from a cd would probably be better
[02:47] <intelikey> Jisao i was asked one day to write a script to facelitate the easy migration from one partition to another without having to reinstall.   that's my attempt.   i finnally got to it.
[02:47] <Jisao> i see
[02:48] <Arwen> intelikey, oh? um, wouldn't that just be cp -R /mnt/part1/* /mnt/part2 && grub-install part2 ?
[02:48] <firephoto> Arwen: feisty is fine here, probably depends on your setup though.
[02:48] <Arwen> firephoto, hmm, I've a 2 year old Dell with ATI video and Intel P4 CPU
[02:48] <intelikey> Arwen if you boot something besides the system you want to migrate.
[02:48] <Arwen> firephoto, not too unique, what do ya think?
[02:49] <intelikey> Arwen and you setup the fstab and boot loader by hand...
[02:49] <firephoto> except for the ati video you should be good. no idea on what makes ati tick. heh
[02:49] <Arwen> intelikey, ah - um, still, this sounds like something that would be remarkably smarter to do manually
[02:49] <Arwen> firephoto, yeah, I just use xorg's drivers. I had a bad experience with fglrx (they finally support GL_texture_from_pixmap, but not composite, wtf?)
[02:50] <firephoto> Arwen: i've seen some fixes go in xorg for ati so you're probably fine.
[02:50] <intelikey> Arwen oh and i hope you meant -a not -R  ^
[02:50] <Arwen> yay
[02:50] <Arwen> intelikey, hmm
[02:51] <soulrider_> intelikey: what is it that you doe xactly in Ubuntu?
[02:51] <Arwen> firephoto, so, you notice anything great in the world of feisty?
[02:51] <soulrider_> i would like to gte involved more
[02:51] <soulrider_> since i <3 ubuntu :D
[02:51] <Arwen> intelikey, ^^
[02:52] <intelikey> soulrider_ soulrider_ there is a page dedicated to that question on the site.
[02:52] <soulrider_> intelikey:  link? =P
[02:52] <firephoto> Arwen: it works great with my G965 system. so that's almost 100% better than edgy. heh
[02:52] <voidmage> Any way to fill out pdf forms in kpdf?
[02:53] <intelikey> !contribute
[02:53] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:53] <soulrider_> thanks intelikey
[02:53] <intelikey> np
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> looks like nvidia's site doesn't like me very much
[02:53] <soulrider_> im gonna go ahve dinner now, bbl
[02:53] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, HAHA
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i'll get this driver eventualy
[02:53] <nomad111> how do i set up samba to share a folder
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> 15k/s
[02:54] <nomad111> its mind boggling
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> awww yeah
[02:54] <Jisao> you launch your script from a liveCD?
[02:54] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, HAHA, I could upload it to you faster than that
[02:54] <enotee> is there a kubuntu server?
[02:54] <Arwen> nomad111, uh, I assume kubuntu has some kind of share control panel?
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: that's what i mean, it's nuts
[02:54] <nomad111> my brother is using windows on the other computer and im in kubuntu and i want to share a folder
[02:54] <intelikey> Jisao me ?   no the running system.
[02:54] <Arwen> enotee, why the hell would you want kde on a server?
[02:54] <Arwen> nomad111, there's a ton of samba guides on ubuntuforums
[02:55] <intelikey> Jisao it's not suited to the liveCD really.
[02:55] <voidmage> Any way to fill out pdf forms in kpdf?
[02:55] <Jisao> Just asking, because I am not very familiar with this kind of testing, that's why I am asking how you run it.
[02:55] <nomad111> Arwen: i cant get it to share dammit
[02:56] <Arwen> intelikey, wait, you suggest migrating your system while still online? that sounds remarkably stupid
[02:56] <nomad111> Arwen: can u point me to a guide
[02:56] <nomad111> Arwen: its driving me nuts
[02:56] <intelikey> Arwen thank you.
[02:56] <Arwen> nomad111, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[02:57] <Arwen> nomad111, sometimes routers don't come with dns servers, so you might wanna attach a hostsfile listing for your box
[02:57] <Arwen> intelikey, well, still, wouldn't you wanna do that while your system isn't running?
[02:57] <Arwen> sounds safer
[02:58] <intelikey> Arwen well i don't think so...  maybe you know something i don't.        i do realize that /var/tmp can change in the middle of things  but that really shouldn't cause a problem after reboot....   do you want to look at the script ?
[02:58] <Arwen> sure
[03:00] <nomad111> Arwen: how do i find my workgroup name in kubuntu
[03:02] <Skuller> ForgeAus: you there man?..i need some help
[03:02] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Does anyone use kxdocker with Beryl?
[03:02] <calcmandan> Running 6.06.1. Attempted to setup wireless so that it would activate the connection at boot. Had been using wlassistant and went into System Settings -> Network Settings -> and setup ra0 to activate during boot. Now, it won't load beyond network configuration during boot., I'm on the machine now using a live disc. Any advice?
[03:03] <Skuller> hello can anyone recomment me an 'objectdock/rocketdock' kinda thing?
[03:06] <Agnostic> Beryl are using heavily the system resources in "real life"?
[03:06] <wolferine> nomad111, so you can change it?
[03:10] <calcmandan> Running 6.06.1. Attempted to setup wireless so that it would activate the connection at boot. Had been using wlassistant and went into System Settings -> Network Settings -> and setup ra0 to activate during boot. Now, it won't load beyond network configuration during boot., I'm on the machine now using a live disc. Any advice?
[03:10] <Daisuke_Ido> okiedokie, got the nvidia driver reinstalled
[03:10] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl seems to be working properly
[03:10] <Skuller> recommendation for a mac like dock please
[03:10] <Daisuke_Ido> and you know, i don't see much difference between this and edgy.
[03:11] <calcmandan> damn, got booted
[03:18] <ebovine_> hey
[03:18] <soulrider_> yay! i just filed my first bug report
[03:18] <soulrider_> hi ebovine_
[03:18] <soulrider_> Skuller: kiba dock ?
[03:19] <soulrider_> Skuller: i also remember seing some in kde-look.org
[03:19] <Skuller> soulrider_: thanks...i'll try that
[03:19] <soulrider_> Skuller: you need compositioning enabled for kiba dock
[03:19] <Skuller> soulrider_: and what would that be
[03:19] <soulrider_> like beryl and stuff :P
[03:20] <Skuller> soulrider_: oh...i have beryl isntalled
[03:20] <Skuller> but not enables
[03:20] <Skuller> *d
[03:20] <soulrider_> i se
[03:20] <soulrider_> e
[03:20] <Skuller> do i need to have beryl running to run the dock?
[03:21] <AbortD> would it be hard to run gaim in kde/?
[03:21] <soulrider_> im not sure if it will work or not, i really havnt used it
[03:21] <Skuller> AbortD: no
[03:21] <AbortD> thanks
[03:21] <soulrider_> AbortD: i used to
[03:21] <AbortD> i cant frikkin stand kopete
[03:21] <soulrider_> just sudo apt-get it and thats it
[03:21] <soulrider_> lol
[03:21] <Skuller> lol
[03:21] <Skuller> AbortD: whats wrong with it?
[03:21] <AbortD> its trashy
[03:21] <soulrider_> in what way ?
[03:21] <Skuller> hmmm....'trashy'...i wondeer
[03:22] <soulrider_> i like it, but i prefer GAIM
[03:22] <Skuller> -e
[03:22] <soulrider_> it was crashing sometimes though
[03:22] <AbortD> i want something that justs lets me connect and doesnt have 1 million features
[03:22] <soulrider_> if they sent me some custom emoticons
[03:23] <Romexios> How to give my self PERMISSION to run things in the BACKGROUND?
[03:24] <intelikey> permission to run in the background ?       command &
[03:26] <LjL> it's not something you need to have permission for
[03:26] <intelikey> no
[03:26] <intelikey> nohup is also usefull
[03:27] <intelikey> usefulll
[03:27] <intelikey> i'll get enough l's after while.
[03:27] <sax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11798/ I'm trying to install cinelerra, I get this error after I configure and try to make
[03:27] <sax> any ideas?
[03:28] <riuken> hola
[03:28] <riuken> necesito ayuda
[03:28] <sax> hello
[03:28] <riuken> hi
[03:28] <riuken> i need some help
[03:28] <riuken> can anybody helpme?
[03:28] <Skuller> !ask | riuken
[03:29] <ubotu> riuken: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <riuken> sorry
[03:29] <Athensman> can anyone here help me install xubuntu
[03:29] <sax> :-)
[03:29] <sax> try"
[03:29] <sax> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop    --it works for kubuntu
[03:29] <riuken> i cant connect to kopete
[03:29] <riuken> i dont know what to do
[03:30] <Skuller> riuken: tried any other IM?
[03:30] <intelikey> sax line 4 is pebcak but the error is in the configure  not something you did.    (unless you wrote or monkeyed with ./configure)
[03:30] <AbortD> riuken: to fix that do sudo apt-get gaim
[03:30] <Skuller> riuken: which protocol?
[03:30] <Athensman> can anyone here help me install xubuntu
[03:30] <sax> ...I know.  I just did ./configure.  I realize ./make is pebkac...
[03:30] <sax> haha
[03:30] <Skuller> AbortD: that is not 'fixing' the problem
[03:30] <sax> intelikey: Any ideas about how to fix that?  There is no make file...
[03:30] <AbortD> it helps though!
[03:30] <firephoto> riuken: what protocol are you trying to connect with?
[03:31] <Skuller> riuken: GAIM is another soft like Kopete
[03:31] <riuken> im not sure...
[03:31] <sax> intelikey:  Does it need to be in a certain directory?
[03:31] <riuken> how i can see what protocol?
[03:31] <Skuller> riuken: are you trying to connect to msn messenger, yahoo, icq, irc?
[03:31] <intelikey> sax no.    and for the record that's what ./configure files do.. they write Makefile 's
[03:31] <riuken> yes
[03:31] <firephoto> riuken: msn, yahoo, aim? you set it in the preferences. for each account.
[03:31] <riuken> msn
[03:31] <Skuller> riuken: which one them?
[03:31] <AbortD> which one :P
[03:31] <riuken> msn
[03:32] <Skuller> riuken: got your UN and PW correct?
[03:32] <sax> intelikey: haha... okay.  thanks
[03:32] <Athensman>  xubuntu will not install it goes to all black screen
[03:32] <intelikey> sax the configure is hosed.  it says ok. i wrote a Makefile  but there isn't one.
[03:32] <riuken> how
[03:32] <riuken> ?
[03:32] <sax> intelikey:  thanks, I'll try this other configure file in there...
[03:32] <sax> haha
[03:32] <sax> there's a few
[03:32] <sax> in cinelerra
[03:32] <intelikey> ok.
[03:33] <riuken> whats an un? and pw?
[03:33] <firephoto> riuken: settings, configure, accounts
[03:33] <intelikey> sax best to look for an INSTALL or a README and see what the builder says
[03:33] <riuken> ok
[03:33] <firephoto> riuken: either modify the msn account, or make New MSN account.
[03:33] <sax> thanks
[03:33] <intelikey> sax or even an   install.sh script
[03:33] <Athensman>  xubuntu will not install it goes to all black screen
[03:33] <intelikey> in the root dir of the source of course.
[03:34] <wolferine> I just ran e2fsck on my file system, but before I get into that, is there an issue of copying files between reiser f/s and ext3?
[03:34] <intelikey> the source is source of course of course....
[03:35] <calcmandan> Running 6.06.1. Attempted to setup wireless so that it would activate the connection at boot. Had been using wlassistant and went into System Settings -> Network Settings -> and setup ra0 to activate during boot. Now, it won't load beyond network configuration during boot., I'm on the machine now using a live disc. Any advice?
[03:35] <riuken> firephoto i try modifying the msn account but nothings happened
[03:36] <Skuller> riuken: username and password
[03:36] <sax> oooh one other error: don't have openGL 2.0
[03:36] <sax> I'll install that
[03:36] <firephoto> riuken: once your settings there are good, say ok, ok, then click the msn icon on the bottom of the kopete window.
[03:36] <riuken> are correct theres no error on username and password...
[03:36] <riuken> and then
[03:37] <firephoto> riuken: online.. online..
[03:37] <AbortD> how can i enter my ntfs file system?
[03:37] <Skuller> riuken: u may also want to /join #kopete
[03:37] <firephoto> or online.. no message.  (i don't have msn anymore)
[03:37] <intelikey> !ntfs | AbortD
[03:37] <ubotu> AbortD: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:37] <Romexios> How to see a list of running softwares from CONSOLE so i know what to kill? and how do i kill something running?
[03:37] <beta> could somone help me with my java install on edgy?
[03:37] <AbortD> thanks intelikey
[03:37] <riuken> im not online
[03:38] <intelikey> Romexios ps aux
[03:38] <Romexios> intelikey: Thanks
[03:38] <intelikey> riuken me neither...
[03:38] <wolferine> beta consult the ubuntu manual (find it with google)
[03:38] <intelikey> welcome welcome welcome
[03:38] <intelikey> !java | beta
[03:38] <ubotu> beta: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:39] <riuken> is there another porgram... like kpete that i can download and install
[03:39] <Romexios> intelikey: ./eggdrop Amore is running.. How do i kill it?
[03:39] <beta> well thats not the problem
[03:39] <intelikey> Romexios killall eggdrop
[03:39] <Romexios> intelikey: Thanks
[03:39] <intelikey> Romexios if it's not your process    sudo killall eggdrop
[03:39] <Skuller> riuken: GAIM
[03:39] <beta> i did look into the manuals...the problem is i dont know if i still have to setup sun as the main java handling application like in dapper and down
[03:39] <riuken> ok
[03:39] <riuken> gaim
[03:40] <beta> it doesnt say anywhere i have to on edgy
[03:40] <Skuller> !gaim | riuken - sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:40] <ubotu> riuken - sudo apt-get install gaim: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:40] <beta> but i suppose i still have to?
[03:40] <AbortD> its telling me no usablle windows partition found....
[03:40] <AbortD> i know its there
[03:40] <intelikey> beta i think    sudo update-alternatives java
[03:40] <AbortD> the partition starts at 67,000 megabytes
[03:40] <intelikey> errr -config java   ^
[03:41] <beta> another strange thing is that java did work to launch .jar files...no it gives me errors...and i didnt change antyhing
[03:41] <beta> intelikey: you think or are you sure?
[03:41] <intelikey> think.
[03:41] <intelikey> i normally try to say what i mean.
[03:41] <beta> thx
[03:41] <intelikey> welcome
[03:42] <riuken> does anyone know how to put a linux system on an ipod????
[03:42] <AbortD> that is possible?
[03:42] <intelikey> i don't do java flash or windows.
[03:42] <Skuller> i dint know that was possible
[03:42] <intelikey> riuken there should be docs on the net.  it's been done many times.
[03:42] <AbortD> i've heard of a xbox or a wii but never a ipod
[03:42] <AbortD> hm
[03:43] <beta> intelikey: ok that didnt work
[03:43] <AbortD> interesting
[03:43] <calcmandan> www.ipodlinux.com
[03:43] <beta> hm,, so where am i supposed to find it out?
[03:43] <riuken> i know but i cant find for a 5Generation ipod... winpod
[03:43] <intelikey> beta you did    sudo update-alternatives -config java   ?     let me check.
[03:43] <calcmandan> Is there a config file where the setting to enable the wireless card during boot exists?
[03:44] <calcmandan> #join wireless
[03:44] <ebotvine> calcmandan: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[03:44] <beta> intelikey: no just java you dindt gave me the configure first...wait
[03:44] <intelikey> ah two dashes    --config
[03:44] <intelikey> try with    --config
[03:45] <beta> intelikey:  another question...when i try to launch .java files the error says it cant launch certain libgjc components?
[03:45] <intelikey> beta i corrected my self   ^  up there but you missed it i guess.
[03:45] <intelikey> i don't know anything about that.
[03:45] <beta> intelikey: no got it thx
[03:46] <sax> I got it@
[03:46] <sax> YAy
[03:46] <beta> intelikey: does this mean it indeed still trys to use the default gjc java? im a noob i just want to make sure
[03:46] <intelikey> sax was there a script ?
[03:47] <beta> this is so weird since it did work with sun without any complaints and i didnt make any changes since to my knowledge
[03:47] <riuken> i still cant connect to my kopete
[03:47] <intelikey> beta i really don't know.   you chould be able to do something like   java --version   and see
[03:47] <riuken> and theres an error with the gaim
[03:47] <beta> ah right damnit i forgot about that
[03:47] <beta> ok its not sun
[03:48] <intelikey> man update-alternatives      <<< beta
[03:48] <warewolf_> Any reason clicking "full upgrade" in adept isn't doing anything? Do I have to click apply changes afterwords?
[03:48] <firephoto> warewolf_: yes
[03:49] <intelikey> you always have to apply any changes.
[03:49] <firephoto> warewolf_: or preview first.
[03:49] <warewolf_> firephoto: so since I've been upgrading every few days, I guess only haveing 38 packages to upgrade is normal?
[03:49] <beta> intelikey:  perfect it works...and so much easier then on dapper since it was done by script
[03:49] <firephoto> warewolf_: sounds normal for feisty.
[03:50] <intelikey> beta the script is there on dapper... you just didn't know about it.
[03:50] <beta> thx, inteli....i just wonder why no manual mentioned the ionstructions for the latest stable relase....i really do
[03:50] <warewolf_> firephoto: Cool, thank you
[03:50] <beta> intelikey:  ok :)
[03:50] <calcmandan> Is there a file that stores network interface settings that I can access in recovery so I can boot my system properly? It hangs halfway through bootup when configuring networking.
[03:51] <calcmandan> I set ra0 to activate when the computer starts and it won't go beyond that point. I'm running a live disc right now.
[03:51] <intelikey> calcmandan /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[03:51] <intelikey> calcmandan i'll check the name...
[03:51] <calcmandan> intelikey: thx
[03:51] <intelikey> yeah that's it.
[03:51] <jeanmass> hi all
[03:51] <intelikey> jeanmass
[03:52] <jeanmass> how are you today?
[03:52] <intelikey> well and you ?
[03:52] <jeanmass> me too
[03:52] <jeanmass> i fixed my pc!!
[03:52] <jeanmass> =)
[03:52] <intelikey> good on ya.
[03:52] <jeanmass> and today i am doing an assignment for uni
[03:52] <jeanmass> i need to copy tables from yahoo! finance
[03:52] <makuseru> what is a good program to RIP cd's to .ogg files?
[03:53] <jeanmass> but when i paste them in OOword
[03:53] <jeanmass> they do not appear as tables
[03:53] <jeanmass> but as text
[03:53] <Agnostic> k3B
[03:53] <intelikey> makuseru cdparanoia   audacity  ....    but vorbis-utils needs to be installed i think
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> as much as i dislike novell, their pc/mac/linux ad campaign is subtly brilliant
[03:53] <jeanmass> i ve managed to copy and ppaste tables twice
[03:53] <firephoto> makuseru: kaudiocreator works good for me.
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i wouldn't recommend audacity to my worst enemy
[03:54] <jeanmass> but i can not do it anymore
[03:54] <makuseru> Daisuke_Ido: me either
[03:54] <jeanmass> and i dont want to use msword..
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> not for ripping cds to ogg
[03:54] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido special reason ?
[03:54] <makuseru> not for anything period
[03:54] <calcmandan> intelikey: This is the contents of that file: http://pastebin.ca/407543
[03:54] <jeanmass> is there an openoffice chat?
[03:55] <calcmandan> intelikey: do i change 'auto ath0' to something else?
[03:55] <calcmandan> intelikey
[03:55] <calcmandan> intelikey: or should i comment out that line?
[03:55] <laptop> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding" ??????
[03:56] <intelikey> calcmandan now you are asking questions that i can't answer.   i know where the file is...   told you that much but that's the full extent of my knowledge on that issue.
[03:56] <laptop> wtf?
[03:56] <calcmandan> intelikey: well you've been a great help so far. Thank you. :)
[03:56] <calcmandan> intelikey: i will reboot with the line commented out and see what happens. :)
[03:56] <calcmandan> intelikey: after, of course, i back the file up.
[03:57] <intelikey> luck wif' it
[03:57] <laptop> "Firefox is already running, but is not responding" ??????
[03:57] <laptop> wtf?
[03:57] <Minataku> Kill it
[03:57] <laptop> how?
[03:57] <intelikey> killall firefox
[03:58] <Minataku> kill `pidof firefox-bin`
[03:58] <crackhead_25> question: in people's opinions here, what is the best ssh client program to use from a remote machine logging into the ssh server on the home machine?
[03:58] <intelikey> or mozilla-firefox  or what ever.
[03:58] <crackhead_25> (and to forward x connections etc. and be operating the home machine gui/wysiwg)
[03:58] <Minataku> crackhead_25: PuTTY
[03:58] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ssh
[03:58] <Minataku> I'm assuming remote has Windows
[03:59] <mischko> crackhead_25, if it's a Windows client - putty.
[03:59] <crackhead_25> remote has windows probably..
[03:59] <crackhead_25> if remote is linux, then what?
[03:59] <Minataku> OpenSSH client
[03:59] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ssh
[03:59] <Minataku> Which is just "ssh"
[03:59] <laptop> how can I list what is running???
[03:59] <crackhead_25> gotcha..
[03:59] <Minataku> laptop: ls -la
[03:59] <Minataku> Er
[03:59] <Minataku> ps -A
[03:59] <Minataku> Sorry
[03:59] <laptop> huh?
[03:59] <Minataku> laptop: ps -A
[03:59] <laptop> okay
[04:00] <mischko> How to share a parallel printer over Samba?
[04:00] <intelikey> !cups | mischko
[04:00] <ubotu> mischko: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:00] <crackhead_25> does a ssh server require ssh as well as openssh server, or just openssh server?
[04:01] <crackhead_25> what's the diff between openssh and ssh servers?
[04:01] <intelikey> mischko the last two links ^ are apropose
[04:01] <mischko> thanks. I'll check 'em out.
[04:02] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ssh is a meta pavkage for installing both openssh-server & openssh-client
[04:02] <crackhead_25> so ins6alling them individually means i dont nee dto install the striaght ssh?
[04:02] <intelikey> yep
[04:03] <laptop> Is there a program that you can see the processes like in windows?
[04:03] <intelikey> the openssh-client is (command line app) ssh and openssh-server is sshd
[04:03] <intelikey> laptop lord i hope not.
[04:04] <intelikey> laptop ps -A x    top     in kde hit ctrl+esc   i think.
[04:04] <laptop> why dont like ease of use?
[04:04] <intelikey> laptop yeah i do that's why i don't like windows.
[04:04] <laptop> moving a mouse pointer is easier than typing and remembering, I like freeing myself up for more important operations
[04:05] <intelikey> ease of use != does it for you the way someone thinks you should do it....
[04:05] <jeanmass> how can i paste a table from OOspreadsheet to OOword, in a way that when i change a number from spreadsheet, it also changes in word?
[04:06] <grimreaper> could somebody give me the german chanal?
[04:06] <intelikey> jeanmass did you try highlighting it and  pointing at the other and middle clicking ?  (both buttons on a two butt mouse)
[04:06] <grimreaper> smb://agslangc/
[04:07] <intelikey> !de | grimreaper
[04:07] <ubotu> grimreaper: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:07] <crackhead_25> how do i test a ssh server setup on the same machine im currently logged into??
[04:07] <crackhead_25> how can i see if i can access it from outside my router/network?
[04:07] <grimreaper> is there a german chanal anyway?
[04:07] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ssh $USER@localhost
[04:07] <jeanmass> intelikey: i havent try the mid-click
[04:07] <crackhead_25> what's the $ symbol mean?
[04:08] <intelikey> grimreaper i don't know.
[04:08] <intelikey> crackhead_25 not intrepted.  just as it is....
[04:08] <intelikey> ssh $USER@localhost
[04:08] <jeanmass> intelikey: but to be able to copy and paste a table from website as a table in OOword, i must also copy an element outside the table
[04:08] <intelikey> that will use your currently logged in user account
[04:08] <jeanmass> i found it
[04:09] <NamShub> $ is a variable
[04:09] <jeanmass> i'm going back to assignment
[04:09] <jeanmass> see ya
[04:09] <grimreaper> or could somebody give me a link for a good sound driver?
[04:09] <riuken> i found a msn for linux...
[04:09] <riuken> when i download it
[04:09] <NamShub> $USER is an environment variable which contains your username
[04:09] <LeeJunFan> !info kopete | riuken
[04:09] <riuken> appears a windows... LAMME
[04:09] <ubotu> riuken: kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[04:10] <NamShub> so if yout username is crackhead_25 the `echo $USER` will print out crackhead_25
[04:10] <mischko> Printer is now working. :)
[04:10] <crackhead_25> what's the "rsa key fingerprint"? should i keep that somewhere?
[04:10] <mischko> How do I get a VNC server to work on there. I don't see a vnc server package in the package manager.
[04:10] <intelikey> mischko glad to hear it... :)
[04:11] <intelikey> mischko apt-cache search vnc
[04:12] <mischko> I see vnc-common " Virtual network computing server software" but I don't see any way to start it.
[04:12] <mischko> It's not in /etc/init.d/
[04:13] <crackhead_25> do i have to memorize my rsa key fingerprint??
[04:13] <intelikey> mischko [g,k] dm do that if configured to  also it can be started from the command line.
[04:13] <intelikey> crackhead_25 no
[04:13] <mischko> kdm's running. How do I turn on vnc?
[04:13] <crackhead_25> intelikey: what do i do with the rsa key fingerprint?
[04:14] <intelikey> crackhead_25 man ssh  > /rsa
[04:14] <crackhead_25> when i did the ssh $USER@localhost it asked if i trusted the 127 0 0 1 key.. which of course i did, because i knwo that's a local ip.. but did that successfully check if the ssh server could be accessed from a computer outside my router? did it pretend the signal was from outside?
[04:15] <intelikey> crackhead_25 no you'll need to do that through other means
[04:15] <crackhead_25> that's what i was wondering. how can i test to see if it's accessible from outside my router?
[04:16] <NamShub> crackhead_25: it only tested the ssh server work. wether it works or not is something completely different and not related to the ssh server (most likely about your firewall/router setting)
[04:16] <intelikey> crackhead_25 maybe see if port 22 is open through the router ?
[04:16] <NamShub> crackhead_25: can you access a remote computer?
[04:16] <NamShub> then you could use that computer to try to log back to your maching
[04:17] <crackhead_25> no, i have no remote to access and reverse access this box..
[04:18] <Romexios> when i type PS x.. I get this: 29439 pts/2    S      0:00 ./eggdrop Amoreto.conf.. what does the S mean?
[04:19] <intelikey> and i would edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf and set it to no root login.      also consider that root jr. is a security issue.  use a strong user password.      short reason, if i can login to your user account i'm root on your box.
[04:20] <intelikey> Romexios ps != PS
[04:20] <crackhead_25> intelikey: are you talking to me?
[04:20] <intelikey> yep anyone that runs ubuntu and sshd
[04:20] <crackhead_25> how do i set sshd.conf to no root?
[04:20] <crackhead_25> what's root jr?
[04:20] <Romexios> intelikey: Huh?
[04:20] <crackhead_25> am i running sshd when i run openssh client/server or putty?
[04:21] <intelikey> crackhead_25 root jr   is the user that has full sudoers privledges.      and for the second Q  server is sshd
[04:22] <intelikey> err atually i skipted Q #1   the line in the file that says allow root login   set to no.
[04:22] <crackhead_25> root jr = the user after successfully entering pass in sudo?
[04:22] <crackhead_25> how do i block root and root jr. from logging in?
[04:23] <crackhead_25> doesn't that block me also when i sign in and want to do something that requires sudo?
[04:23] <mischko> I told Kubuntu to start the samba server but it won't accept my login.
[04:23] <intelikey> yeah.   youphemism        i guess i named  UID = 1000   root jr.
[04:25] <intelikey> crackhead_25 no disallowing root login in ssh doesn't stop you from doing anything except logging in dirrectly as root over ssh
[04:25] <crackhead_25> how do i block logging in as root jr.?
[04:25] <crackhead_25> is that the same change? i replaced yes with no in the ssh config file for permitroot
[04:25] <intelikey> you are root jr.       you don't want to block that.  you just want to use a good password
[04:26] <crackhead_25> how do i test my password? is there a program to test it?
[04:26] <intelikey> yes there are several.   john the ripper.   is one
[04:26] <crackhead_25> intelikey: is that a program?
[04:27] <intelikey> yeah they shortened the package name to "john"
[04:30] <maartalli|home> What is the kubuntu equivalent for "desktop-effects" in ubuntu?
[04:32] <crackhead_25> do i just run john on a particular user to see if it can crack the password? hwo long does it usually take to test?
[04:33] <beta> --purge should remove all files in ~ for the specified application right?
[04:33] <intelikey> beta  wrong
[04:33] <intelikey> it wont touch ~/
[04:33] <maartalli|home> !restrcited
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrcited - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <intelikey> crackhead_25 sure try it.
[04:34] <beta> intelikey: isnt ~~where the config files are sored....which --purge is supposed to remove?
[04:34] <intelikey> no beta
[04:34] <crackhead_25> is there a better program than john for testing?
[04:34] <intelikey> beta the configs that --purge is talking about is /etc/*
[04:35] <intelikey> crackhead_25 i'm sure.
[04:35] <beta> uhm ok
[04:35] <beta> so it doenst delete anything at all in your home folder?
[04:35] <intelikey> madussa  crack  john   there are several.   i don't know them all or much about any of them. crackhead_25
[04:35] <intelikey> beta no.   i repete it will not touch ~/
[04:36] <beta> intelikey:  i wasnt sure for a moment if ~ is actually /home/user/ sry
[04:37] <mischko> Can anyone give me pointers on getting Samba working? It prompts me to enter a username and password when I connect to the server but won't accept a valid unix username/password.
[04:37] <beta> whats the different between the config files for a program and its settting files?
[04:37] <[pyro] > mischko: man smbpasswd
[04:38] <mischko> Can't it use the unix password file?
[04:38] <intelikey> yes it is.   ~ = $HOME = grep $USER /etc/passwd | cut -d ':' -f 6
[04:40] <mischko> intelikey, ?
[04:40] <intelikey> beta the config files are system wide " configurations / settings"   that affect the way the app works   the settings files store the personal changes you make from within the running app.
[04:40] <intelikey> mischko that was @ beta
[04:40] <mischko> intelikey, k
[04:40] <intelikey> mischko i don't know about samba
[04:40] <mischko> intelikey, np.  Thanks.
[04:41] <beta> intelikey: so settings = what you do in the apps preference dialogue....config = code stuff i dont want to know about?
[04:41] <intelikey> beta yeah  for all practical purposes   yes.
[04:41] <beta> ok
[04:42] <beta> whats your guys opinions on suse?
[04:42] <beta> it seems like nobody has something good to say about it
[04:43] <intelikey> there is a free version of suse.    there i said something good about it.  :)
[04:44] <beta> yes opensuse i meant
[04:44] <Jucato> suse has KDE... :)
[04:44] <beta> yes
[04:44] <Jucato> that another good thing to say :)
[04:44] <beta> Jucato: so you like it?
[04:45] <Jucato> O.o
[04:45] <Jucato> what gave you that idea?
[04:45] <intelikey> all distros have kde and gnome and ....
[04:45] <beta> i really never had anyone say something good abaout it...beside the people using it
[04:45] <intelikey> well all major distros ^
[04:45] <Jucato> heh of course. :)
[04:45] <beta> Jucato: sry, my english....got it now
[04:45] <beta> what is so bad about it?
[04:46] <beta> i hear they hurt linuy standards alot...in terms of file structure and such
[04:46] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:46] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:46] <ebotvine> ubotu: Error: "kubuntu" is not a valid command.
[04:46] <Jucato> (and possible flamebait)
[04:46] <beta> but that goes for a lot of distros nowadays it seems
[04:46] <Jucato> ebotvine: you're talking to a bot
[04:46] <beta> ok sorry
[04:46] <beta> i shut it ;)
[04:46] <Jucato> ebotvine: and "kubuntu" isn't a command really
[04:47] <Jucato> beta: you might want to go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to ask about that. but there are already so many writeups about that on the web. might want to do a Google first
[04:47] <intelikey> it's not even a request around here Jucato   :)
[04:47] <beta> ok
[04:48] <gan|y|med> hello
[04:48] <intelikey> gan|y|med
[04:48] <gan|y|med> that might be a weird question, but is anybody here from evanston, IL???
[04:49] <intelikey> yep that's a wierd one.
[04:50] <katani> Does anyone have any suggestions for a good, linux-compatible wifi card?
[04:50] <Arwen> katani, yeah, ethernet
[04:51] <gan|y|med> ipw2200
[04:53] <katani> I'm not seeing any PCI cards with that chipset...
[04:55] <gan|y|med> well, i don't know of intel sells them seperately. you just asked for a good card :)
[04:55] <katani> lol
[04:56] <katani> Yeah I've heard pretty good things about the Intel wireless chips. A shame they're all for laptops
[04:57] <intelikey> hardware makers want to sell sell sell sell   and onboard means they can sell more  so why should they make cards...
[04:57] <katani> I was planning to set up a access point/router box
[04:58] <intelikey> now on the other hand makers that don't make mainboards wish all mobo's were blank   only sockets and slots ....
[04:59] <katani> lol the way things used to be...
[04:59] <intelikey> but it really comes down to the retailers.  what ever walmart carries that's what sells the most
[05:00] <intelikey> i hate to put it this way.  but most people are too dumb to see how that hurts them.
[05:00] <katani> I can understand that. A lot of the "consumer" hardware out there is crap
[05:01] <gan|y|med> a lot of people don't care to by new hardware (meaning a one-piece-all-in-one-thing) time and again
[05:02] <intelikey> gan|y|med that's what i just said,  just in different words.
[05:02] <katani> oh well...
[05:03] <crackhead_25> how do i find out what ip address was assigned my computer from my router?
[05:04] <intelikey> according to M$ they should be able to collect $100 per person per year for the entire population of the planet.   and i think intel thinks the same way...
[05:04] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ifconfig
[05:04] <gan|y|med> a bit nicer maybe :)
[05:04] <intelikey> gan|y|med maybe....
[05:05] <sstchur_> what might cause synaptic and/or adept to crash each time I try to load it?
[05:05] <gan|y|med> have you tried it in a console?
[05:05] <gan|y|med> look at the output
[05:05] <katani> crackhead_25: ifconfig
[05:06] <intelikey> sstchur_ installing java and having to kill the packagemanager half way through because you couldn't see the  EULA question  ?
[05:07] <crackhead_25> what's the difference between an inet address and a bcast address??
[05:07] <intelikey> gan|y|med those two won't run in a console.... konsole/etrminal yes,  console no.
[05:07] <LeeJunFan> crackhead_25: inet address is an IP address, broadacst address is an address that any traffic sent to will be seen by all hosts on your subnet.
[05:08] <sstchur_> intelikey: perhaps, though I don't think that particular situation applies to me
[05:08] <crackhead_25> which do i use to setup as forwarded through the router for ssh use?
[05:08] <intelikey> sstchur_ well in any event the fix is probably the same.
[05:09] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | sstchur_
[05:09] <ubotu> sstchur_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> crackhead_25: you want to setup your router to forward ssh to an IP inside your network? if so you want to give the router the IP address of your pc.
[05:09] <flaccid> i have the bug where typing set in shell returns shell script output instead of the current env vars. anyone know the fix?
[05:09] <Mena> Ho to reload kicker :)
[05:10] <Mena> How*
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: if you are using bash_completion set will show you a bunch of functions that are used for bash_completion, that's normal.
[05:10] <flaccid> Mena: run the command kicker iirc
[05:11] <intelikey> flaccid are you sure it's not  bash_completion  settings you are seeing ?      set | less
[05:11] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: that is not what is happening
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: if you want to see just variable use env
[05:11] <Mena> flaccid, ok :)
[05:12] <Mena> i think i will kill it then reload it :)
[05:12] <sstchur_> intelikey: ok, little better maybe.  Now I'm getting "Errors were encountered while processing: ntlmmaps"
[05:12] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: what happens when you run the command set in bash on your ubuntu ?
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: I get a bunch of shell functions that bash_completion sets.
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: the last one I see is set_prefix ()
[05:13] <beta> does the generic nvidia driver "nv" that kubuntu uses out of the boy supports 3d from edgy on?
[05:13] <intelikey> last here is   size ()
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> I'm on feisty
[05:13] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: why does it do that?
[05:13] <r3factored> is evolution a gnome product?
[05:14] <intelikey> cause those things are "set" in bash_completion
[05:14] <beta> because i could do "glxgears -printfps" without problems after a fresh edgy install
[05:14] <intelikey> and ~/.bash_aliases    or the like.
[05:14] <flaccid> i thought set was a shell builtin
[05:14] <flaccid> why is the command dif on ubuntu to other linux/*nix
[05:15] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: it is, but that's how bash_completion incorporates itself into the bash shell.
[05:15] <Mena> is this kind of bug on kicker ... after adding a new panel it dosent appear in the same time on the ConfigurePanesl ??
[05:15] <intelikey> it isn't. flaccid    set | less
[05:15] <intelikey> is that not what you are looking for ?
[05:16] <flaccid> i'll pastebin what set gives me and you tell me if thats normal
[05:16] <intelikey> my it isn't was at   why is the command dif,..
[05:16] <gan|y|med> btw, with 'console' i refer to any kind of command line under x
[05:17] <flaccid> ah i see what you mean
[05:17] <flaccid> it is the vars
[05:17] <flaccid> they are at the top then _=set
[05:17] <flaccid> which must be for the completion
[05:17] <intelikey> gan|y|med but there is a reason one is called a terminal  and the other a console...
[05:17] <flaccid> heh messy way to do it.
[05:17] <crackhead_25> what's the command to refresh the dhcp client status of an eth, i.e. refresh the ip assigned bya  router to an eth card?
[05:18] <intelikey> no   _=   is the last command entered
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> crackhead_25: dhclient eth0
[05:18] <flaccid> crackhead_25: dhclient dev
[05:18] <flaccid> intelikey: well all that extra shite seems to go under that
[05:18] <Mena> How to change the host name
[05:19] <flaccid> Mena: hostname
[05:19] <Mena> yes
[05:19] <intelikey> you can   echo $_   to see what the last command was      and yes all that extra is "bash_completion"  enabled
[05:19] <flaccid> perm change is changing /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[05:19] <flaccid> intelikey: why does it do it this way in ubuntu. other operating systems do not need to do this for completion
[05:19] <intelikey> cause othere os's didn't have bash_completion enabled by default
[05:20] <Mena> if you opened the kcontrol center you will see the inf a bout your system and one of them hostname
[05:20] <flaccid> i dunno. its just messy
[05:20] <magicfab> hi
[05:20] <magicfab> what would be a tool equivalent to gdebi in kubuntu ?
[05:20] <intelikey> there is a world of differance in normal  [tab]   completing app names and paths   and bash_completion     a world of differance.
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: keep in mind we aren't talking about simple filename completion, bash_completion is a whole added in program. for instance you can type apt-get install xserv[tab]  and it'll complete it for you.
[05:21] <intelikey> yeah what LeeJunFan said ^
[05:21] <magicfab> gdebi is a .deb graphical installation tool
[05:21] <flaccid> true guys. i guess you are just mean to use env instead of set to see current vars
[05:21] <Mena> intelikey, Is the upgrade tool working fine or ??
[05:22] <intelikey> flaccid less is good.
[05:22] <crackhead_25> how come that didnt work? i had <IP_ADDRESS> as the dynamically assigned ip by the router. i changed the router to static assign the computer ".".".100 based on the hwaddress (mac address?), and id id the dhclient eth0, but it still has the same first internal ip of ...102??
[05:22] <flaccid> so is more :)
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: yeah, env is cleaner. filename completion is built into bash in the c source and compiled as part of bash, bash_completion adds all kinds of features and is an "afterthought" which is added in the way you see with "set"
[05:23] <intelikey> Mena idk.  i don't use the automatic updater
[05:23] <BartSimpson> Hello, I have a camera (Canon powershot SD500) and try to load it to my computer via usb. When i load it in digiKam, it thinks it is a "Canon digital IXUS 700". I can't load any pictures from it, either. Am I missing some driver (even though the digiKam "add camera" option had my camera's model there)?
[05:23] <intelikey> less is more than more.
[05:23] <flaccid> intelikey: hehe yeah
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: if you have hosts you ssh to frequently you can also use tab completion with those. ie ssh root@morn[tab]  will complete to one of the servers I ssh to a lot.
[05:23] <intelikey> and calling more good is really streaching things.
[05:23] <Mena> intelikey, if i change the edgy to fiesty on source list will work fine and upgrade to beta
[05:23] <flaccid> i guess i'm just used to certain stuff and zsh..
[05:23] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: thanks thats pretty cool
[05:23] <hsoj> I just installed the Kubuntu Beta and attempted to install the nvidia-glx drivers using add/remove programs. Upon reboot nothing had changed so I ran 'sudo nvidia-glx-enable' and rebooted. Now the login screen never comes up. I am back on the Live CD now. This is a fresh install BTW.
[05:24] <intelikey> !upgrade | Mena
[05:24] <ubotu> Mena: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> Mena: I upgraded 3 machines from edgy to feisty a week or so ago and they all went perfect, although that doesn't guarantee you'll have the same luck.
[05:24] <Mena> ok
[05:25] <intelikey> Mena and the basic idea in that upgrade link is the same for any version.
[05:25] <Mena> Good that they keep them the Same
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: yeah, it pulls the servernames and or IP's from your ssh known_hosts file, you can also use that with ping 192[tab] , or mtr or host, etc.. Very cool.
[05:26] <intelikey> flaccid one other note on bash_completion.   without it you search for modules with it you can   modprobe snd-[tab]    for example and see the full list of only snd-* modules...    wonderful for stuff like that.
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> yep, and rmmod too :) I loves my bash_completion :)
[05:27] <intelikey> dito that.   exvept i don't enable it until i start to do womething that i actually need it for.
[05:27] <crackhead_25> anyone know why using dhclient on eth0 to update my internal ip didn't update it? it just returned to the same dynamic ip it was before, even though i set the router to use the hwaddress (macaddress?) to assign a static internal ip to it.. ?
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> only you get too used to using tab to complete things and you find yourself doing it when you're writing scripts and trying to help people in IRC too, doesn't help them much when you tell them to run dhcl        eth0 :)
[05:28] <intelikey> like type.....
[05:28] <intelikey> S:
[05:29] <intelikey> prezactly.  ^
[05:29] <intelikey> LeeJunFan you know sh scripting ?
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> crackhead_25: sounds like the router is stubborn. Double check your mac's maybe.
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah.
[05:29] <crackhead_25> is the mac hwaddr in ifconfig?
[05:29] <intelikey> care if i send you one to look at ?
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> crackhead_25: yeah, that's it.
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: np. What's it supposed to do?
[05:30] <jza873> hello im new to linux i finally got it set up on my ppc and i was told to go here for help
[05:30] <intelikey> it's to migrate to a new partition....
[05:30] <intelikey> see if anything in it looks like it might blow up....
[05:31] <intelikey> LeeJunFan someone asked me to write one...  but i wanted a few second openions on it before i gave it to them.
[05:32] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[05:32] <jza873> can someone help me get my sound to work or at least point me to a web site or in the right direction
[05:32] <Jucato> !sound
[05:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:32] <crackhead_25> perhaps do i have to down my eth0 before i reset the dhcp?
[05:32] <jza873> thanks
[05:33] <intelikey> !mp3 | jza873
[05:33] <ubotu> jza873: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <hsoj> I just installed the Kubuntu Beta and attempted to install the nvidia-glx drivers using add/remove programs. Upon reboot nothing had changed so I ran 'sudo nvidia-glx-enable' and rebooted. Now the login screen never comes up. I am back on the Live CD now. This is a fresh install BTW. Any ideas?
[05:34] <Jucato> hsoj: install the linux-restricted-modules-generic package
[05:35] <intelikey> !feisty | hsoj you can also check in the official channel for beta releases
[05:35] <ubotu> hsoj you can also check in the official channel for beta releases: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:35] <hsoj> Any reason why that wouldn't have been included when I installed the nvidia driver? Should I file a bug?
[05:35] <hsoj> Ah, thanks. Sorry for cluttering this channel.
[05:35] <Jucato> hsoj: boot into your Kubuntu installation, once you get to the part where you're supposed to login, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login to the console
[05:35] <Jucato> hsoj: it's not a bug...
[05:36] <Jucato> the guide you followed might not be complete
[05:36] <yknott> suspend2 :(
[05:36] <crackhead_25> why did sudo ifconfig eth0 down not work?
[05:36] <crackhead_25> do you think i have to down eth0 before refreshing dhclient?
[05:37] <yknott> crackhead_25: no
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: looks like it should work at first glance, also looks like you've taken care to do error checking and reporting, which is good.
[05:40] <Jucato> no. he probably detonated it
[05:40] <Jucato> ooops...
[05:40] <riuken> hi im triying to install linux on my ipo
[05:40] <riuken> d
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I wonder though if you wouldn't be better off using either tar or rsync for the copying process as you can just do --one-filesystem instead of copying each dir one by one.

[05:40] <Jucato> oops...
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> <glare class="evil">
[05:41] <riuken> what mean  % mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda2
[05:41] <riuken> ?
[05:41] <intelikey> LeeJunFan i thought about tar. but on testing it seemed slower to me...
[05:41] <riuken> what the %
[05:41] <riuken> means
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> riuken: that means to format /dev/sda2 as windows fat32
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> just ignore the %
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> it's the shell prompt
[05:42] <riuken> r ok ty very much
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, it probably is a bit slower, when I do moves like that I use rsync because I can run it again to catch anything that may have changed while the first copy was going.
[05:43] <subone> Hi, I am trying to install Edgy on a Dell Precision 220 Workstation with 2 800mhz cpus and 512mb rambus memory but after it says "Ready" (booting live) it hangs with just a blinking cursor
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I've done that on servers to copy a live server to a new HD, then just chroot to it, run grub and MAKEDEV on it and reboot.
[05:43] <subone> and i get a very limited boot menu not the full menu
[05:44] <intelikey> LeeJunFan and that might cause trubble if they had like a boot partition or /home or other such oddity.... do you think i should try for some other cp process ?
[05:44] <subone> can anyone shed some light on some possible troubleshooting options?
[05:44] <Kool> hi everyone .. has anyone had success with installing kubuntu on Virtual PC 2007 with hardware virtualization?
[05:44] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yeah MAKEDEV would be better than copying the device nodes...  i should have thought of that.
[05:44] <catid> hello.. i'm having some trouble installing kubuntu-desktop..  apt-get install kubuntu-artwork-usplash's subprocess post-installation script returns an error exit status 1
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: that's why I use rsync with --one-filesystem, it wont traverse mounts, but it WILL copy the mountpoint.
[05:44] <catid> any idea how i can get more information about the error?
[05:45] <yknott> Kool: no i have not; *nux is not a supported virtualpc osys
[05:45] <Kool> :/
[05:45] <yknott> but - maybe - it can work
[05:45] <Kool> vmware is bloated IMO
[05:45] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: tar can do the same thing if you pipe one to the other, it may be slower than rsync but tar is on every system, rsync may not be.
[05:46] <yknott> yeah go with kvm / qemu then
[05:46] <intelikey> yeah true that.
[05:46] <riuken> what this instruction does: mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: if you man tar or man rsync they have single char options for --one-filesystem, like -d or some crap, don't believe it - for some reason they don't work - you have to use the whole --one-filesystem arg. :)
[05:47] <intelikey> but almost 2x faster cp time... with cp     i'll consider the options there.      do you see anything else that glares at you.
[05:47] <ushaba> i am wondering if anyone knows whether or not the CJK display and font problems have finally been fixed in feisty
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> riuken: that will format partition 3 of your first scsi hd, as ext3 which is the default for most linux disro's including ubuntu, kubuntu.
[05:48] <riuken> thanks
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: not that I noticed. The code itself all looks good.
[05:49] <subone> sorry, just wondering if anyone heard my postr
[05:49] <subone> post*
[05:49] <LeeJunFan> but then my brain isn't a bash processor :)
[05:49] <intelikey> k.  thanks for the input.
[05:49] <intelikey> lol
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah mine too.
[05:50] <LeeJunFan> I hate pearl, it seems so unorthodoxed, I like more clean structured like C, PHP, Python - yet I think that's how my brain works [perl] .
[05:51] <intelikey> what's the syntax on a tar to tar pipe ?   tar -c path | tar -x  ???
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I think you want tar -c - [path]  | tar -x
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: you might need to use the args to change dirs as well.
[05:52] <intelikey> yes was just looking   -C destination    on the end of that.
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> and of course --one-filesystem on the first half.
[05:53] <Mena> i think i will try the new upgrade toll for now :)
[05:53] <intelikey> i'll play with that a little more.      but i think the reason it's slower is it has to run tar twice on all data.
[05:53] <Mena> tool*
[05:53] <intelikey> yes of course
[05:53] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: err --one-file-system
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, the pipe doesn't help, it runs in userspace, whereas cp uses kernel space calls to execute the copying.
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: well, I just checked and cp (at least on feisty here) has --one-file-system, that might do it.
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> as long as it also gets the mountpoints, if not I suppose you could just script those in to be made after the cp process.
[05:56] <intelikey> LeeJunFan ummmm it should  i'll gice a look.
[05:57] <intelikey> LeeJunFan it does indeed and the short   -x  works in cp
[05:57] <kubuntu> hello
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: cool, even better then :)
[05:58] <intelikey> whoa.  i'll recode that last section and that should be  fine as frog hair split four ways then.
[05:59] <intelikey> LeeJunFan ah i just thought of an oddity.
[05:59] <intelikey> LeeJunFan what if they use a /boot partition.   before grub can reinstall i'll have to remount that in the chroot  ?
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah true.
[06:00] <intelikey> i think i can pars that out of fstab without much work.
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: you can -o bind it rather than unmount and remount.
[06:01] <intelikey> oh shoot i'll have to check for /usr and /var also...
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: you'll need to bind mount /proc before you chroot too probably.
[06:01] <riuken> whats ./make_fw
[06:02] <Skuller> ~$ purge -Skuller
[06:02] <intelikey> proc is not really need just to setup grub
[06:02] <intelikey> i've tested that one.
[06:02] <riuken> whats ./make_fw
[06:02] <subone> Hi, I am trying to install Edgy on a Dell Precision 220 Workstation with 2 800mhz cpus and 512mb rambus memory but after it says "Ready" (booting live) it hangs with just a blinking cursor. Can anyone offer any help troubleshooting this issue?
[06:03] <intelikey> LeeJunFan you did look at the  "grub-install" line in the script... it's not actually a chroot per'se  it's  --root-directory=
[06:03] <intelikey> so proc is not an issue.
[06:04] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: it might be easier to bind mount everything rather than cherry picking. just check mounted fs's and bind them all in the new destination before chrooting :)
[06:04] <intelikey> i'll setup a test system with special mountpoints and see what that does.
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: no I didn't. I guess you can do that and just forget the chroot. No need to worry about /boot then either.
[06:05] <intelikey> LeeJunFan i think /boot will be a must there tho
[06:06] <Minataku> /boot is nice if only it keeps you from having a buttload of stale kernels lying around
[06:06] <Minataku> Since eventually you fill it up and more won't install
[06:06] <Minataku> Which is when you know to go and clean it out
[06:06] <Minataku> XD
[06:06] <intelikey> cause it will write to $MOUNTPOINT/boot/grub/*  and the MBR
[06:07] <intelikey> so if /boot is a mountpoint i need to mount it first.
[06:07] <intelikey> the kernel will be MIA if i don't..
[06:07] <subone> Am I being ignored or am I in a queue or something...
[06:08] <Skuller> subone: neither....people are busy here ;)
[06:08] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, I see your point there.
[06:08] <Iwonder|too> subone: nobody gets ignored,usually if no one replies it means no one has an answer
[06:09] <intelikey> subone i did actually over look your Q... sorry.
[06:09] <Iwonder|too> eventually someone will wake up that can help,most of the time
[06:09] <intelikey> subone did you try safe graphics mode ?
[06:09] <subone> intelikey: I am trying to install Edgy on a Dell Precision 220 Workstation with 2 800mhz cpus and 512mb rambus memory but after it says "Ready" (booting live) it hangs with just a blinking cursor
[06:09] <Skuller> yea...helps to be patient...i know its hard to be so when you have a frustrating problem...but try practising it
[06:10] <subone> intelikey: i can try that i suppose... i'll have to look up the boot option... you think that would explain why i didnt get the normal boot screen?
[06:10] <intelikey> subone hit f1 when it first posts the cd boot option
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> subone: are you trying to install to the machine you are on? Or is the machine you're installing to sitting with the blinking cursor right now?
[06:10] <subone> Skuller: i understand patience it's just that i wasn't acknowledged at all soi i was curious if i was even really connected :p
[06:11] <subone> LeeJunFan: this is the machine i am trying to install on. I can logon to another machine. I installed the same distro on my laptop earlier with no issues
[06:11] <Skuller> subone: cool..i myself dont take the patience thing too seriously ;)
[06:12] <intelikey> boy i do.
[06:12] <intelikey> you all need to be patient with me....
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> subone: okay, I was just wondering - if you had it like that right now you might get some info by pressing ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 or f3 :) hehe, one of them has logging as to what setup is doing at the moment.
[06:12] <intelikey> :)
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> subone: but your best bet is probably safe mode gfx.
[06:12] <Skuller> intelikey: you urself are so patient with people that they dont need to be frustrated or get impatient
[06:13] <subone> I know many IRC'ers do take it seriously and I didn't mean to be rude (especially multiple posting my problem) I just can't be sure if my post wasn't seen sometimes
[06:13] <intelikey> subone no no   i made a slight joke.    if you had not reposted i would not have seen your Q.
[06:14] <intelikey> i didn't say it was a funny joke mind you.
[06:14] <Skuller> man you crack me up
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> Speaking of patience, you should have seen me and some crippled guy give some girl a rash of !@#@! when she cut in front of us in line in wal-mart the other day!
[06:14] <subone> LeeJunFan: I will try to see if there are other options will other keypresses at the blinking cursor. That is if the graphics optio doesnt work. I'll log off now and if it doesnt work I'll logon from a different comp. ty
[06:14] <intelikey> see like Skuller's joke ^  :)
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> The crippled guy was saying, "If my legs worked, I'd kick your !@#!" I thought I was gonna die.
[06:14] <Skuller> yep...Master of PJ's i am
[06:15] <Skuller> lol
[06:15] <catid> does anyone know what might be wrong with the kubuntu-artwork-usplash package in the repos right now?  it fails to install and i'd really like to try out KDE
[06:15] <Skuller> LeeJunFan: i guess he lost his legs at the same kind of argument last time
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> hehe, he held up his cane and it had a bend in it, said that was from the last guy who cut in front of him in line, she was lucky she's a girl.
[06:16] <intelikey> catid on such questions you should include release info.
[06:16] <catid> intelikey: what kind of info do you want?
[06:16] <catid> intelikey: i'm using feisty
[06:17] <intelikey> catid yes that.
[06:17] <Skuller> LeeJunFan: lol....so i guess there wont be any cane remaining to show to the 'next guy/ga;'
[06:17] <intelikey> !feisty | catid
[06:17] <ubotu> catid: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:17] <Skuller> gal*
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> Skuller: yeah, we both were pretty hard on her, but that "If my legs worked..." was just too much. I laughed and cried at the same time.
[06:19] <intelikey> women want equal treetment.  let them get up out of the floor when you way-lay them for such things.....
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> Skuller: but even after all that, and even after I said, "If I had gotten here first, I'd have given my spot to this guy, you cut in front of him." She never said a word, just stayed right there.
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: oh, I was close.
[06:19] <intelikey> but only if that's how you do men...
[06:19] <catid> is there a way to get more verbose error messages from apt-get install?  i'd love to try to fix it myself
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> catid: you can try installing the package it's choking on with dpkg
[06:19] <catid> okay
[06:20] <Skuller> LeeJunFan: yes thats true....very wrong to deprive a person like that of his postion...not to mention how much frustration is already in him overall
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> Skuller: what made it worse was it was at the tire and lube, apparently she wasn't in any hurry because she didn't come to get her car (which was in and out first) until after me and the other guys car were done.
[06:21] <catid> LeeJunFan: thanks that helped
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> s/me/mine
[06:22] <SubOne> I'm back
[06:22] <SubOne> I'ts still at a blinking cursor
[06:22] <Skuller> LeeJunFan: ok......i dint get what u meant
[06:23] <catid> aha the problem was my custom kernel and Kubuntu wanting to install its own krufty splash screen
[06:23] <Skuller> Ubugtu: lart
[06:23] <Ubugtu> (lart [<channel>]  [<id>]  <who|what> [for <reason>] ) -- Uses the Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool on <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific lart. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
[06:23] <catid> i just had to add a lib modules dir for it to drop some stuff into
[06:24] <catid> woo, time to try out KDE! :)
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> SubOne: it could be that using the alternative CD and doing text mode install will get you to an installed system, but you still may end up with a broken X (gui).
[06:24] <orange1> c0nv1ct: whats a good program to recover deleted files on a formatted drive?
[06:25] <LeeJunFan> SubOne: but then at least you have an installed system to work on getting X to work.
[06:25] <c0nv1ct> orange1: not sure, i havent done that in a very long time
[06:25] <intelikey> orange1 what format ?
[06:25] <orange1> i just need to recover some .java files i wrote for lab
[06:25] <orange1> foremost doesnt do the job
[06:26] <intelikey> what format ?
[06:26] <orange1> intelikey: they are .java format
[06:26] <LeeJunFan> ugh, .java - that rules out most quick and easy ones.
[06:26] <intelikey> never mind.
[06:26] <SubOne> ok i can try that
[06:26] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: you were thinking recoverjpeg or photorec weren't you? :)
[06:26] <intelikey> no i was asking what fs format
[06:27] <intelikey> but it's not important anyway.
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> oh, I see.
[06:27] <intelikey> obviously it isn't
[06:27] <intelikey> even though you can't recover files on ext3
[06:27] <Skuller> Ubugtu: lart #kubuntu-offtopic pip for creating an electric towel
[06:27] <catid> and KDE is running, yay.  it's great when things go this smooth
[06:27] <intelikey> they get over written so quickly.
[06:28] <catid> anyone have advice for getting Beryl running?
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> catid: yeah, #ubuntu-effects I think is the channel to ask that.
[06:28] <orange1> intelikey: so im sol cuz the drive is ext3?
[06:29] <Iwonder|too> what is beryl?
[06:29] <intelikey> orange1   that's what i was asking....
[06:29] <orange1> !beryl | Iwonder|too
[06:29] <ubotu> Iwonder|too: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:29] <intelikey> orange1 and yes.
[06:29] <LeeJunFan> orange1: kind of, unfortunately the efficiency of the ext3 filesystem is actually a bad thing in the case of deleted file recovery.
[06:29] <Iwonder|too> cool
[06:30] <intelikey> orange1 think of it this way.   in windows delete some files and then run the defragmentor   then recover them...
[06:30] <catid> the #ubuntu-effects channel is kind of dead.. perhaps someone here has gotten Beryl running in KDE?
[06:30] <orange1> Iwonder|too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ   <-- have a look at beryl
[06:32] <orange1> intelikey: alrighty - ill just rewrite them over -- 5 labs - shouldnt take too long
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> orange1: you could try http://e2undel.sourceforge.net/usage.html
[06:32] <LeeJunFan> orange1: the longer you use the HD with the deleted files the less your chances are.
[06:33] <intelikey> yep   like 60 seconds is way too long.
[06:33] <catid> KDE has a few more features than GNOME.  i'm liking this
[06:33] <yknott> such as?
[06:34] <intelikey> catid a few  ?   heh
[06:34] <orange1> lol i shouldnt bother then - cuz i just transfered 16gbs of music... didnt know about the efficiency of ext3
[06:34] <catid> the volume control works better with my keyboard and pulse audio
[06:34] <catid> it's got this neat volume control built into the task bar too, etc..  fun stuff
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> that's like saying a leatherman has a few more features than a stick.
[06:34] <catid> LeeJunFan: what? ;-)
[06:35] <intelikey> at least more stuffing....
[06:35] <yknott> catid: so volume control already configured to your keyboard and pulse audio?
[06:36] <catid> yeah that was irritating me in GNOME
[06:36] <catid> keyboard volume control worked for headset but not onboard sound
[06:36] <catid> anyway, exploring..
[06:36] <yknott> good good, try out xubuntu (xfce) along the way
[06:37] <orange1> !freenx
[06:37] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:37] <orange1> 1 more week til springbreak!! WOO!
[06:39] <intelikey> LeeJunFan  >>> tar -c --one-file-system / | tar -x --directory "$MOUNTPOINT" || EXIT="91 $EXIT"  <<< look better than the convoluted idea that i had first ?
[06:39] <yknott> !x11vnc
[06:39] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[06:39] <intelikey> and gnight  and thanks.
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, that way nothing should get left out in case they have their own dir in / too.
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> gnight.
[06:44] <catid> is anyone around to help with installing Beryl for KDE?
[06:46] <Iwonder|too> trying it out right now catid for the first time
[06:47] <ash211> try http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[06:47] <catid> okay :)
[06:47] <riuken> where i can find the cywim
[06:47] <riuken> where i can find the cygwim
[06:48] <intelikey> !cigwin
[06:48] <catid> riuken: cygwin runs on windows
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cigwin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <intelikey> !cygwin
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cygwin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <intelikey> dumb bot
[06:49] <intelikey> but yeah at any rate,  cygwin is a scba gear for linux to breath in ntfs space
[06:49] <intelikey> or M$ fs space...
[06:49] <catid> not the last time i checked it's not
[06:50] <catid> it's just a unix environment for windows
[06:50] <riuken> i cant use the make
[06:50] <intelikey> that's what i said.
[06:50] <riuken> i cant use the make_fw command
[06:50] <catid> if you want to run windows stuff on linux, use WINE
[06:50] <_flu_> hi, i'm using kubuntu edgy eft. i've got a usb sound card. i can hear all sounds but flash on firefox. any solutions?
[06:51] <intelikey> or cediga
[06:51] <intelikey> !flash
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <catid> _flu_: oh oh i have something to say about flash..
[06:51] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:51] <intelikey> say it catid
[06:52] <_flu_> i'm listening to you catid
[06:52] <catid> sec looking up the page
[06:52] <catid> http://pulseaudio.revolutionlinux.com/PulseAudio
[06:52] <catid> that adds pulseaudio support for flash
[06:53] <catid> it also has info on how to play with sound in flash9
[06:53] <catid> so you can debug the problem yourself :)
[06:53] <_flu_> ok i'm lookin thru. thank you catid
[06:54] <riuken> OMG im doing my best to install the linux on ipod but i can use the "make_fw or gcc" command
[06:54] <riuken> any idea please?
[06:55] <intelikey> riuken install build-essential
[06:55] <riuken> with the apt-get?
[06:56] <intelikey> yes   no compiler installed by default.
[06:56] <riuken> so i write sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:56] <riuken> ?=??
[06:57] <nixternal> yup
[06:57] <catid> neat.. Beryl works
[06:57] <agws> good day to all
[06:57] <catid> hello agws
[06:57] <agws> green horn question here
[06:58] <riuken> after i install the build-essential what?
[06:58] <riuken> whats that for?
[06:58] <agws> how do I setup kubuntu as web server?
[06:58] <catid> agws: you probably want to use apache for that
[06:59] <nixternal> Mena: another thing to try if that doesn't work out... sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:59] <nixternal> then do an update again and see if you still get that same problem
[06:59] <riuken> whats the build-essential for?
[06:59] <nixternal> but usually that is a network hiccup or you caught the server at a bad time
[06:59] <Mena> i did that befor i will try again
[06:59] <Mena> ok
[06:59] <nixternal> rock on :)
[06:59] <agws> I would like to set up LAMP or AMP but I'm so new to this that I just finished installing kubuntu
[06:59] <Mena> but its a bout 3 or over 3 hours :D
[07:00] <nixternal> I have gotten those a few times as well. the us.archives servers are the worst pieces of tofu I have ever used
[07:00] <catid> agws: i've not tried those yet, sorry
[07:00] <nixternal> I actually use Canadian servers at time, or even EU servers
[07:00] <Mena> ok
[07:01] <Mena> in any way i will try gain on another time if the autoclean didnt do anything
[07:01] <agws> does anyone know how to set up LAMP on kubuntu?
[07:02] <riuken> whats the build-essential for?
[07:02] <riuken> whats the build-essential for?
[07:02] <riuken> whats the build-essential for?
[07:02] <intelikey> so you have gcc installed
[07:02] <intelikey> so you have gcc installed
[07:02] <intelikey> so you have gcc installed
[07:03] <Mena> Hehehe :)
[07:03] <flaccid> haha
[07:03] <flaccid> haha
[07:03] <flaccid> haha
[07:03] <intelikey> amongst other things that are essential for building source code
[07:03] <riuken> and thats for the make_fw too?
[07:03] <Mena> and also some app use it and need it to work :D
[07:03] <agws> LAMP???? anyone?
[07:03] <Mena> s
[07:03] <Mena> !lamp
[07:03] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:04] <nixternal> hey, stop the repeating
[07:04] <nixternal> pleas
[07:04] <nixternal> e
[07:04] <nixternal> jeesh, so I do it just trying to spell
[07:04] <agws> too bad that it's harder to understand the setup using that giude.
[07:04] <nixternal> for LAMP, HowToForge.net rocks!
[07:05] <intelikey> riuken i dont know about make_fw   and the package manager came up dry on that...
[07:05] <catid> ElectricSheep is so cool..
[07:05] <Mena> ome index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. i get this any idea why?
[07:05] <Mena> s
[07:05] <agws> but how do I keep kubuntu and set up LAMP?
[07:06] <Jucato> !lamp | agws
[07:06] <ubotu> agws: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:06] <Mena> is this the same problems with severs
[07:06] <Mena> servers*
[07:06] <nixternal> Mena: very well could be
[07:06] <catid> !themes
[07:06] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:06] <Mena> ok
[07:06] <Hail_Spacecake> what's the name for the other part of ndiswrapper?
[07:06] <nixternal> there is a little ninja hacking the tubes maybe
[07:06] <Hail_Spacecake> not ndiswrapper-utils
[07:06] <catid> cool there's a themes site
[07:07] <Hail_Spacecake> but the part that actually does the backend coding stuff
[07:07] <Mena> nixternal, Thanks
[07:07] <nixternal> no problem
[07:07] <Mena> Thanks all bye ..With God Bless
[07:07] <nixternal> Mena: if you experience that problem still after a few hours, then I would look for more answers
[07:08] <nixternal> d'oh
[07:08] <nixternal> bye :)
[07:09] <agws> how does one install LAMP onto Kubuntu
[07:09] <firecrotch> !LAMP
[07:09] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:10] <abortd_> bah
[07:10] <Exploit> can any1 help me here?
[07:10] <agws> PLEASE STOP GIVING ME THAT STUPID LINK
[07:10] <Jucato> !caps
[07:10] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:10] <riuken> i installed the build but i still have the same problem...
[07:10] <firecrotch> agws: It works though.
[07:10] <Jucato> riuken: what problem?
[07:10] <agws> yeah but I have no clue as to what I'm doing
[07:10] <abortd_> konversation only comes with the ubuntu server????....
[07:11] <agws> so that tutorial is not very friendly
[07:11] <Exploit> How to install/configure ADSL connection which connect through USB?????
[07:11] <agws> LOL
[07:12] <riuken> look im trying to install linux on my ipo
[07:12] <riuken> d
[07:12] <Exploit> that requires usrname/pass?
[07:12] <intelikey> agws the L part of your Q is more stupid than that stupid link.      "how do you install linux on linux" ....  ?
[07:12] <Exploit> how to configure that?
[07:12] <firecrotch> agws: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[07:13] <firecrotch> Pretty simple, really
[07:13] <riuken> i have 78% of the process but i cant use
[07:13] <riuken> make_fw command
[07:13] <Exploit> ny 1 wanna help here???????????
[07:13] <riuken> and its important for the process...
[07:13] <agws> intelikey...because when I wrote AMP noone responded, and when I wrote LAMP you were the 1st one to talk to me.   IM TOO TIRED TO FINISH
[07:15] <Exploit> join #ubuntu
[07:15] <riuken> I WILL FINISH IT TOMOROW
[07:15] <agws> intelikey - I've read it, do not get it, need help, new to linux.  I heard of linux, thought I would give it a try, and this is my 1st attempt.
[07:15] <Jucato> !caps | riuken
[07:15] <ubotu> riuken: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:15] <Exploit> #ubuntu
[07:15] <ebotvine> Exploit: Error: "ubuntu" is not a valid command.
[07:16] <Exploit> How to install/configure ADSL connection which connect through USB????
[07:16] <riuken> sorry about the shouts
[07:16] <AbortD> you better be sorry
[07:17] <intelikey> agws well congrats on the new exp.  the package manager is in the  kmenu     all the packages you need that are listed on that page  can be installed via adept (the package manager)
[07:17] <Exploit> i m not able to connect my net in kubuntu???? i  have connection ADSL that requires username & pass & connect through USB?
[07:17] <riuken> thanks all the people that help me...
[07:17] <Jucato> riuken: I have no idea about installing linux on an ipod, not even how it can be done
[07:17] <Exploit> how to configure/install
[07:18] <Jucato> Exploit: try the command "sudo pppoeconf" in Konsole
[07:18] <Exploit> all r dull here
[07:18] <Exploit> thankx Jucato
[07:18] <Jucato> !patience | Exploit
[07:18] <ubotu> Exploit: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:18] <intelikey> Exploit i was trying to find a like to a how to
[07:19] <Exploit> ok guys thx
[07:19] <intelikey> the bot has or had one but i can't find it.
[07:20] <intelikey> and yeah we're pretty dull. i guess.
[07:21] <Exploit> ny othr method?
[07:21] <Jucato> !adsl
[07:21] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:21] <Exploit> ok ubotu......
[07:22] <Jucato> it's abot
[07:22] <Jucato> a bot*
[07:22] <intelikey> !thanks | Exploit
[07:22] <ubotu> Exploit: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:22] <intelikey> !botsnack
[07:22] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:22] <firecrotch> !botsnack
[07:22] <intelikey> :)
[07:22] <firecrotch> Damn you, intelikey
[07:23] <Exploit> wow...gr8...bot
[07:23] <firecrotch> :P
[07:23] <chris_> !!
[07:23] <intelikey> did i just get "blessed out again" ?
[07:23] <AbortD> can u get kde to auto ident for your nickname?
[07:23] <Jucato> intelikey: yes you did.
[07:23] <Jucato> AbortD: for konversation?
[07:23] <intelikey> i thought so...
[07:23] <AbortD> yeah
[07:23] <AbortD> thats what i meant
[07:23] <AbortD> im half drunk sorry
[07:24] <Jucato> AbortD: press F8, at the bottom, the Auto Identify section
[07:24] <Jucato> AbortD: put in NickServ for the service, then your password
[07:24] <AbortD> if i just enter in nickserv will it /msg auto?
[07:25] <intelikey> Jucato can main not be setup in a fresh install ?
[07:25] <Jucato> intelikey: what do you mean?
[07:25] <AbortD> or do i have to enter /msg nickserv
[07:25] <Jucato> AbortD: it will autoidentify you when you login
[07:25] <intelikey> is it possable that agws sources.list doesn't have   main   setup ?
[07:25] <Jucato> that's why it's called "Auto" Identify
[07:25] <intelikey> [agws(n=agws@bas14-toronto63-1177852818.dsl.bell.ca)]  ok  so I'm looking for the packages in the Adept Installer and nothing.
[07:25] <nomad111> why is that on some sites i cant see the proper apostrophe
[07:26] <Jucato> intelikey: only if he's using dapper or earlier
[07:26] <nomad111> just some rubbish character
[07:26] <Jucato> "proper" apostrophe?
[07:26] <AbortD> i know it will
[07:26] <Jucato> intelikey: Dapper or earlier, if you install w/o an internet connection, it disables all repos
[07:26] <AbortD> but do i have to enter the full  command like in mirc?
[07:27] <intelikey> [agws(n=agws@bas14-toronto63-1177852818.dsl.bell.ca)]  kubuntu, the latest that they had. <<<
 AbortD: put in NickServ for the service, then your password
[07:27] <AbortD> thanks
[07:27] <AbortD> didnt see that
[07:27] <Jucato> intelikey: hm... not sure... if by "latest" he means Edgy...
[07:27] <agws> I think so
[07:28] <AbortD> [02:27]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Error! "/msg NickServ" is no longer supported.  Use "/msg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or "/nickserv" instead.
[07:28] <AbortD> see what im saying
[07:28] <intelikey> agws in here.     and ask Jucato if he's not too busy...
[07:28] <agws> thaks
 AbortD: put in NickServ for the service, then your password <---- did you do this?
[07:29] <AbortD> yup
[07:29] <catid> anyone know where screensavers are supposed to be installed to?
[07:29] <AbortD> but it tries to /msg nickserv
[07:29] <AbortD> instead of /nickserv
[07:29] <agws> hey jucato, quick question for you.
[07:29] <Jucato> ah simple answer: DALnet is crazy :)
[07:29] <Jucato> agws: ok?
[07:29] <agws> jucato- kubuntu is supposed to be ubuntu server with desktop environment right>
[07:30] <AbortD> ;(
[07:30] <Jucato> no
[07:30] <Jucato> AbortD: another way: Press F2, click on Edit. then put the proper command in the Commands field
[07:30] <agws> jucato - in that case how do I set up my server, so it has a desktop environment.
[07:30] <Jucato> agws: no. Kubuntu is Ubuntu, without GNOME, but with KDE
[07:30] <AbortD> sweet titts
[07:31] <AbortD> just brings up server list
[07:31] <agws> jucato- what's the differance between GNOM and KDE?