[00:01] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: the thing i am having trouble understanding is why do these errors keep taking place when nothing is wrong with the disk or the drive?
[00:02] <nazty> hey
[00:02] <nazty> how do i get rid of ubuntu after installing it using wubi.exe
[00:02] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: because optical media sucks even more than magnetism based media.
[00:03] <tomreyn> it may work on one drive but not the other
[00:03] <tomreyn> in fact this is pretty common
[00:03] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: so my only option really then is to try to use a program to allow the PC to boot from USB, so that I can use lubuntu from there?
[00:04] <UltimaKR> would i need to burn it somehow or just copy the iso to a flash drive?
[00:04] <tomreyn> that or a tftp / etherboot <tomreyn> you could still try the chainloading approach, or to boot from network
[00:05] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i'm not terribly keen on carrying on with this
[00:05] <tomreyn> joggers: we can talk here
[00:05] <Dr_Willis_> i would just put the hd in a usb enclosure, install to it from a differnt pc.. then put the hd back
[00:06] <Dr_Willis_> or set it up with grub2 to boot an iso file from small partion at the front. ;)
[00:07] <Dr_Willis_> netbooting may be a easier solution.
[00:07] <nashant> evening Dr_Willis_. You don't have any experience getting hdmi audio to work for radeons do you?
[00:08] <ikonia> !pm > joggers
[00:08] <Dr_Willis_> nashant:  i rarely use ati video cards.
[00:08] <ikonia> joggers: please see the private message from ubottu, I've asked you to stop pm'ing people earlier
[00:08] <nashant> Yeah, I thought that might be the case
[00:08] <Dr_Willis_> nashant:  run that pavucontrol tool and  twiddle with it would be step 1 ;)
[00:09] <Dr_Willis_> joggers:  no need to msg me.. and ive no idea what you are asking abut Templets
[00:11] <smkatz> the line sudo mv drupal-7.18/* drupal-7.18/.htaccess /var/www/drupal isn't working.
[00:11] <ikonia> smkatz: you need to give info as I keep telling you
[00:11] <ikonia> smkatz: "it's not working" tells us nothing
[00:11] <TDJACR> Since upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04, GNOME 3 is constantly freezing or crashing, which either requires a restart or a switch to a tty and a gnome-shell --replace. I tried upgrading GNOME using the official PPA, still same issue. Occurs on two computers, both with different graphics drivers.
[00:12] <smkatz> it says no such fiile or directory
[00:12] <smkatz> for both of then
[00:12] <michagogo> tomreyn: Hmm. Just reinstalled and gave it the 128MB video from the start
[00:12] <smkatz> *them
[00:12] <michagogo> Same thing
[00:12] <ikonia> smkatz: then the files don't exist in the directory you are in
[00:12] <smkatz> don't worry -- I do expand on it's not working, it just takes me a while to type
[00:12] <smkatz> except that when I do an ls
[00:12] <smkatz> it says the directory drupal-7.18 does exist
[00:12] <smkatz> in var/www
[00:13] <ikonia> smkatz: please show me the output of this command "pwd"
[00:13] <bdi_> How do i make a shortcut to show desktop?
[00:14] <jrib> bdi_: are you using unity?
[00:16] <smkatz> I'm in var/www
[00:16] <ikonia> smkatz: I asked you for the output of the command "pwd"
[00:16] <smkatz> and there is a drupal-7.18 directory
[00:16] <ikonia> smkatz: please give me what I ask you - not what you think I want
[00:16] <bdi_> jrib, yes
[00:17] <michagogo> Hmm. Fresh install, 12.10 VM, first login. I say remind me later to the updates, and then I get "The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly."
[00:17] <smkatz> slash var slash www
[00:17] <michagogo> What might be wrong? WOuld any of the details shown there be useful in diagnosis?
[00:17] <ikonia> smkatz: do you mean /var/www
[00:17] <smkatz> (My IRC client won't send that output because it interprets it as a command.)
[00:17] <smkatz> yes
[00:18] <ikonia> michagogo: the xorg and compiz logs wouldbe the virst place to check
[00:18] <ikonia> smkatz: type <space> /var/www
[00:18] <ikonia> smkatz: now please show me the outpuf of the command "ls dru*"
[00:18] <michagogo> ikonia: There are all the problem details in the "closed unexpectedly" box -- would any of them be helpful to you?
[00:19] <ikonia> michagogo: to me...no, to a bug report yes
[00:19] <michagogo> Okay
[00:19] <ikonia> michagogo: I'd also consider your trying to run a 3d desktop in a virtual machine
[00:19] <ikonia> compiz may not be happy with that
[00:19] <michagogo> Can I tell it not to do that?
[00:19] <ikonia> michagogo: unity depends on it
[00:20] <michagogo> Wait, there was a checkbox for enabling 3d acceleration.
[00:20] <michagogo> Should I power off and tick that?
[00:20] <smkatz> in what format would you like that output
[00:20] <ikonia> try it
[00:20] <ikonia> smkatz: pastebin if it's long
[00:20] <ikonia> smkatz: actually - wait
[00:20] <ikonia> smkatz: do "ls | grep -i dru" pastebin the output of that
[00:21] <tomreyn> michagogo: that's why i brought up 3d earlier. but i doubt it works without the vbox guest utils installed. on the other hand, i think some of them got mainlined, so it could.
[00:21] <michagogo> Well, if it does need those it'll be a catch-22
[00:21] <tomreyn> michagogo: i suggested you run in recovery mode earlier (the stuff about pressing shift on boot), did you ever do it?
[00:22] <michagogo> tomreyn: Must have missed that, sorry
[00:22] <tomreyn> recovery mode doesn't require 3d
[00:22] <smkatz> can I ask you another question?
[00:22] <n00bz> Halp me please? After installing ubuntu, my laptop reboots to unknown filesysytem, grub rescue
[00:22] <smkatz> when I did the previous command
[00:22] <smkatz> I can see install.php now
[00:22] <smkatz> but yes, I'll pastebin both those outputs
[00:22] <smkatz> hang on
[00:23] <ikonia> smkatz: just the last one
[00:23] <ikonia> smkatz: not both of them
[00:23] <michagogo> tomreyn: Under advanced options for ubuntu?
[00:23] <smkatz> ok
[00:24] <n00bz> Anyone?
 michagogo: shut down the hard way, then start it again and hold doen left shift key while it's booting. this should bring up the boot menu, where you can select the recovery option.
 tomreyn: I'm going to try to do it again
 make sure you (mouse) click on the ubuntu VM before holding down shift.
[00:24] <ikonia> n00bz: saying anyone is pointless
[00:24] <smkatz> I figured it out
[00:24] <smkatz> the directory is not in the right place
[00:24] <smkatz> thank you for your time
[00:24] <smkatz> if you'd like to walk me more, feel free
[00:25] <n00bz> Understood ikonia, i'm just desperate, cos i dunno how to fix it
[00:25] <michagogo> tomreyn: Resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary?
[00:25] <wNz> n00bz: if its a fresh install you could always try again
[00:26] <tomreyn> michagogo: umm, that's not the options i expected but try failsafeX
[00:26] <michagogo> What did you expect?
[00:26] <n00bz> wNz: i've no idea how to do anything from the screen im at
[00:26] <tomreyn> michagogo: something like "Ubuntu Linux 3.5.xxx", "Ubuntu Linux 3.5.xxx (Recovery)"
[00:27] <michagogo> Yeah, I chose recovery there
[00:27] <michagogo> Then I got those choices after a bunch of verbose boot stuff
[00:27] <tomreyn> i see, i guess that's new then or i haven't run into it, yet
[00:27] <tomreyn> well failsafex should help
[00:28] <michagogo> tomreyn: Now it looks stuck: http://i.imgur.com/dHfdr.png
[00:28] <michagogo> Or is it supposed to take a while?
[00:29] <tomreyn> michagogo: this can take up to 2 minutes
[00:29] <michagogo> k
[00:29] <tomreyn> possibly more if it needs to check larger file systems
[00:30] <tomreyn> but since it's a VM i assume you only have one smaller partition there
[00:31] <Magoogle> anyone running ubuntu on the pi?
[00:31] <michagogo> IIRC it's a dynamic vhd, max 100gb
[00:32] <tomreyn> Magoogle: yes
[00:33] <michagogo> Still at that same view
[00:33] <tomreyn> michagogo: no new lines printed on screen?
[00:33] <michagogo> Nope
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> Magoogle:  Ubuntu wont work on the raspberry Pi - untill they get it ported to the arm 6.
[00:34] <michagogo> Well, other than the ^[ from me forgetting to hit the host key before alt-tabbing
[00:34] <doctorly> I just updated and my wifi nolonger connects, any help would be great.
[00:34] <tomreyn> michagogo: is it busy on the virtual hdd? the should be an access indicator on the bottom right
[00:34] <michagogo> DOesn't seem to be doing anything, no
[00:35] <tomreyn> michagogo: hmm that's not good. reboot again, and select the fsck option this time
[00:35] <ikonia> why fsck ?
[00:36] <michagogo> tomreyn: Seems like this might be relevant: http://i.imgur.com/Rmc2X.png
[00:36] <tomreyn> ikonia: because his file system can be corrupt, having powered down uncleanly a couple times.
[00:36] <chewspam> am i in the right place for help with ubuntu?
[00:37] <ikonia> where did he say it powered down unclear (am I missing text)
[00:37] <tomreyn> michagogo: so when the blue platters icon, the most left one is blue instead of grey it means there is HDD activity.
[00:37] <michagogo> No, it's always blue
[00:37] <cexpert1> All: Where is a good channel for PHP OOP?
[00:37] <tomreyn> ikonia: i suggested that he should close the guest window earlier, which means an unclen shutdown
[00:38] <michagogo> Activity is indicated by a green circle on the bottom-right corner
[00:38] <MDMA> so i made an install of ubuntu alongside win8, but after reboot it wont offer me a chance to start ubuntu, it will just start win8 immediately. what could have gone wrong? how do i boot ubuntu instead?
[00:38] <ikonia> cexpert1: we are not a yellow pages of irc channels
[00:38] <michagogo> Of the HDD icon, that is
[00:38] <ikonia> cexpert1: #freenode will teach you how to use irc
[00:38] <tomreyn> michagogo: oh okay, i think you'Re right, the platter icon just indicates that a HDD is connected
[00:38] <michagogo> Yep
[00:39] <lordnaz> hey
[00:39] <michagogo> That's the blueness, I think, since there's a greyed out cd next to it
[00:39] <cexpert1> ikonia: Just asking, sure someone know, been searching and can't find one.
[00:39] <lordnaz> im trying to boot ubuntu off a usb flash drive i just bought
[00:39] <chewspam> I'm a n00b with ununtu.  i just did a fresh install of 10.04, and I am unable to connect wirelessly.  Any dieas?
[00:39] <bdi_> Anybody in here using crashplan.com? Are they good?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis_> chewspam:  depending on the network card. you may need to install some addatona drivers/firware
[00:39] <lordnaz> should i use unetbootin.exe?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis_> firmware
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  unetbootin, or the many tools at the pendrivelinux site.
[00:40] <tomreyn> !ot | bdi_
[00:40] <ikonia> cexpert1: #freenode will teach you how to search/use irc
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  or the various 'image' tools to put the iso straight to the flash
[00:40] <chewspam> Dr., I can't seem to find any linux drivers for my Atheros AR8132
[00:40] <lordnaz> Dr_Willis_, should i use the pendrive the way it is?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> way it is?
[00:40] <lordnaz> it has the .exe's and everything on it
[00:40] <lordnaz> i just bought it
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  what exes?
[00:41] <tomreyn> ubuntu.exe
[00:41] <lordnaz> RunSanClubDisk.exe
[00:41] <lordnaz> etc...
[00:41] <Dr_Willis_> You bot a Ubuntu flash?
[00:41] <MDMA> i made a n ubuntu install but i want to replace it with an arch install, i can just overwrit that part of the harddrive with arch right?
[00:41] <RollinV2> mdma: not at all
[00:41] <cexpert1> ikonia: Already been there and no room search available nor instructions on search.  Also Room search on IM client only showing first result, not able to see all!
[00:41] <lordnaz> i took it out of the box and ran unetbootin.exe using the ubuntu iso
[00:41] <RollinV2> go to the #archlinux room and tell them about your plan, get your flame shield ready
[00:41] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:   You used Unetbootin to put the ISO file image onto the flash? or how did that ubuntu stuff get there?
[00:41] <lordnaz> all the linux stuff is on theree
[00:42] <ikonia> cexpert1: no you've not
[00:42] <ikonia> cexpert1: you have not been in that channel
[00:42] <lordnaz> but the flash drivee stuff is still on there too
[00:42] <ikonia> cexpert1: the people in #freenode will teach you how to user IRC / search / find channels
[00:42] <michagogo> cexpert1:you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[00:42] <Magoogle> Dr. Willis yea sorry its xbmc thats running on PI but thats the previous version before the mmade it run off of 1q2.10
[00:42] <Magoogle> 12.10*
[00:42] <Costanza> hello.. what kernel version does the latest ubuntu have?
[00:42] <Ekranos> hello guys, i looked alot for drivers for nvidia optimus and workarounds, does anyone know how i can use nvidia optimus on my laptop?
[00:42] <michagogo> tomreyn: It's been 4-5 minutes that it's been showing this:tomreyn:
[00:43] <michagogo> Erm
[00:43] <michagogo> http://i.imgur.com/worRS.png
[00:43] <cexpert1>  /msg alias list *php*
[00:43] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  try to boot it up and see if it works. :) if not use some other tool to put the ISO onto the flash. backup any stuff that came with the flash if you want to keep it.. but ive never seen them come with anything worth keeping
[00:43] <doctorly> I just updated and my wifi nolonger connects, any help would be great.
[00:43] <michagogo> cexpert1: alis, not alias, and with no leading space
[00:43] <Dr_Willis_> Magoogle:  what was the question? I ant remember
[00:43] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[00:43] <lordnaz> k cool
[00:43] <doctorly> no longer*
[00:44] <chewspam> Any idea where I can find linux drivers for an Atheros AR8132 wireless card?
[00:44] <Ekranos> my ubuntu 23.20 has 3.5.0-21-generic
[00:44] <tomreyn> michagogo: that's after rebooting with the "fsck" option?
[00:44] <Ekranos> 12.10*
[00:44] <michagogo> tomreyn: Rebooting, choosing recovery, and then fsck from the pink menu
[00:44] <Costanza> 3.5 kernel.. ok, thanks
[00:45] <Ekranos> Does anyone know how i can use NVIDIA Optimus on my Acer Laptop?
[00:45] <cexpert1> michagogo: How do I pipe to .txt file?
[00:45] <Ekranos> apt-get update > ./text.txt or apt-get update >> ./text.txt
[00:45] <michagogo> cexpert1: That's a client thing, I don't know
[00:45] <tomreyn> michagogo: can you just hit ctrl-c a couple times (after clicking the window so it grabs your keyboard input)
[00:46] <MDMA> so i made an install of ubuntu alongside win8, but after reboot it wont offer me a chance to start ubuntu, it will just start win8 immediately. what could have gone wrong? how do i boot ubuntu instead?
[00:46] <tomreyn> michagogo: if this makes a difference it will show instantly
[00:46] <michagogo> It did
[00:46] <michagogo> Booted to ubuntu login screen
[00:46] <Ekranos> Can somebody help me with NVIDIA Optimus support on Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:47] <Costanza> MDMA do you have secure boot turned on?
[00:47] <LanDi> Maybe u dont install the grub
[00:47] <michagogo> Should I go ahead and log in?
[00:47] <Ekranos> MDMA, just turn off uefi in your BIOS
[00:47] <Costanza> if he turn off UEFI then he cant boot the OS because he probably installed both in UEFI mode
[00:47] <LanDi> =)
[00:48] <MDMA> Costanza: dont know. // what is UEFI?
[00:48] <tomreyn> michagogo: weird. maybe there's a pause there on purpose so one can read the output. now see if you can select a different session type on the login screen
[00:48] <Ekranos> I had the same issue and it worked for me then
[00:48] <tomreyn> michagogo:  i.e. not "Ubuntu / Unity" but something else
[00:48] <michagogo> Erm.
[00:48] <MDMA> Landi: did you talk to me?
[00:48] <michagogo> Virtualbox just crashed
[00:48] <tomreyn> michagogo: whoops. which version?
[00:49] <michagogo> Or rather, the VM did
[00:49] <tomreyn> same thing
[00:49] <michagogo> tomreyn: The latest -- updated it today
[00:49] <LanDi> MDMA, ya
[00:49] <MDMA> i should install the grubn before i installed ubuntu?
[00:49] <Costanza> does ubuntu boot using grub2-efi or does it boot to uefi using kernel?
[00:50] <Ekranos> Is there somebody that can help me with NVIDIA Optimus on Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:50] <tomreyn> michagogo: that would be 4.2.6. it says on the help menu, "about" option
[00:50] <michagogo> Yeah, that
[00:50] <michagogo> tomreyn: Okay, booted again
[00:50] <michagogo> The only other option is Guest session or remote login
[00:50] <tomreyn> michagogo: do the failsafe again
[00:50] <michagogo> Okay
[00:51] <michagogo> Let me guess -- ^C that?
[00:51] <LanDi> MDMA, When u are installing Ubuntu, he question u if u want install grub in MBR, u need say yes
[00:51] <tomreyn> michagogo: yes i guess
[00:51] <MDMA> MBR?
[00:51] <MDMA> LanDI: ifi didnt, how can i start it?
[00:52] <tomreyn> michagogo: my goal is for you to update ubuntu to the latest version, after which i hope booting with default settings will be flawless
[00:52] <michagogo> tomreyn: I downloaded and installed today
[00:52] <doctorly> I am having a really hard time setting up my wireless network. I have no ssid showing up when I try to connect. Is there a way to see all of the available networks??
[00:52] <n00bz> rawr!
[00:52] <LanDi> MDMA, MBR = Master Boot Record
[00:52] <tomreyn> michagogo: i was referring to patches.
[00:52] <Costanza> do i have to compile kernel with CONFIG_EFI_STUB=y myself???
[00:53] <michagogo> Okay, at the logon screen
[00:53] <michagogo> Though it looks the same
[00:53] <michagogo> Entered password...
[00:53] <michagogo> let's se
[00:53] <michagogo> e
[00:53] <tomreyn> michagogo: we'll see
[00:53] <n00bz> i've rebooted after install of ubuntu, and have a black termail screen that says grub rescue... what can i do?
[00:54] <n00bz> i don't even know how to safely power off from here
[00:55] <Dr_Willis_> the system dident boot properly n00bz  you an just hit the reset/power buttons
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> n00bz:  you are not in the OS - but you are in the Grub Boot loader 'emergancey' type fallback command line
[00:56] <n00bz> but it keeps bootiing to that Dr_Willis_
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> So you need to reinstall/fix grub.
[00:56] <tomreyn> n00bz: you can safely pull the plug or rather switch off your PDU there, or hit reset button. you should download an ubuntu live/install cd for your version, boot off it (burn to cd or write it to a usb key) and run the recovery option
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> !fixtryb
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> !fixgrub
[00:56] <n00bz> right, i got the power off bit
[00:56] <michagogo> tomreyn: Haven't gotten a dialog yet, but nothing else either. Just the wallpaper image
[00:57] <michagogo> Oh, wait -- there's the Compiz crash
[00:57] <michagogo> :-/
[00:57] <n00bz> tomreyn, i've still got the cd, but how do i even load it?
[00:57] <Costanza> !kernel
[00:58] <tomreyn> michagogo: :-/ i'm not sure what is wrong, but something is very wrong. if your host system was linux i'd recommend you to inspect the system log, as well as VirtualBoxs' log
[00:58] <Costanza> !Mainline kernel
[00:58] <n00bz> and Dr_Willis_ is it safe for me to mess around with grub if i don't know what i'm doing?
[00:58] <michagogo> Is there some kind of keyboard shortcut that will bring up a terminal or something?
[00:58] <tomreyn> n00bz: you place it in the cdrom by and configure your bios to boot off it.
[00:59] <n00bz> you make it sound so easy :P
[00:59] <tomreyn> n00bz: often there is some F key you can hit to access the boot menu when powering up the system
[00:59] <Dr_Willis_> n00bz:  live cd + that boot-repair tool is where i would start
[01:00] <tomreyn> n00bz: if there is not, you need to access your biod and then look for startup/boot options and change the boot order so that cdrom is before HDD
[01:00] <michagogo> tomreyn: Okay, it's 3 am here
[01:00] <michagogo> I'm giving up for now
[01:00] <Guest65540> hi.. can anyone help me out?  I am trying to get the open source ati drivers to work under xubuntu 12.10, but I can't seem to get them to recognize the card.  12.04 recognizes the card with the opensource drivers.
[01:01] <tomreyn> n00bz: also have a look at what Dr_Willis made ubottu tell you earlier
[01:01] <n00bz> i am!
[01:02] <tomreyn> Guest65540: which model do you have there?
[01:02] <n00bz> i know my questions are retarded, but i do listen
[01:02] <Guest65540> 6290.  It's a cheap netbook amd c-60 processor
[01:02] <tomreyn> n00bz: alright, sorry ;) people are often too lazy
[01:02] <tomreyn> or overwhelmed
[01:03] <Guest65540> I can get the properiety drivers working but they don't work so well with mythtv
[01:03] <n00bz> tomreyn, i appreciate the help. my only other option is to take it locally to someone who offered to remove my HD save my files and reinstall windows
[01:03] <tomreyn> Guest65540: 6290? which brand?
[01:03] <Guest65540> ati
[01:03] <Guest65540> it's an apu
[01:04] <tomreyn> n00bz: i'd spend my night here, then, too ;)
[01:04] <n00bz> heh
[01:04] <n00bz> i reckon
[01:04] <MDMA> how is ubuntu for wathcning movies?
[01:04] <tomreyn> Guest65540: so ati is the brand of the netbook, right?
[01:04] <[snake]> can I tell ubuntu not to activate the screensaver while I am watching a video?
[01:04] <cakeboss> ZOMG EVERYONE GET OUT
[01:04] <cakeboss> THE WORLD IS ENDING
[01:04] <cakeboss> HURRY
[01:04] <FloodBot1> cakeboss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <[snake]> with flash that is
[01:04] <Guest65540> it's a cheap acer 722
[01:05] <tomreyn> i see
[01:05] <Septima> MDMA: just fine
[01:05] <Guest65540> the other option is to try helping me upgrade the kernel of 12.04 to 3.3+.. can't seem to get that to work
[01:05] <Guest65540> keeps using 3.2 for some reason
[01:06] <tomreyn> [snake]: try caffeine
[01:07] <tomreyn> [snake]: thats a software, not a bad joke
[01:07] <tomreyn> Guest65540: give me a mnute, i need to look stuff up
[01:07] <Guest65540> no problem
[01:07] <XMLnewbi__> is it possible to re install a Ubuntu server over ssh?
[01:07] <[snake]> tomreyn, that's awesome, I'll check it out :P
[01:08] <Septima> what's up n00bz?
[01:08] <tomreyn> Guest65540: you want to upgrade to linux 3.2? ubuntu 12.10 should come with linux 3.5 if i'm not mistaken.
[01:08] <n00bz> it's broken septima :)
[01:09] <DjuharDudaev> vlc
[01:09] <Guest65540> it does .. it uses 3.5
[01:09] <n00bz> SNAFU :)
[01:09] <TheLordOfTime> XMLnewbi__, "reinstall"?  not really, since SSH implies the server remains on and connected...
[01:09] <Guest65540> but that doesn't work correctly with the open source drivers or something
[01:09] <Septima> how's it broken?
[01:09] <RollinV2> XML nope, but what type of server is it? a VPS?
[01:09] <tomreyn> Guest65540: so you downgraded your kernel?!
[01:09] <Guest65540> so that's why I was going to just upgrade 12.04 3.3
[01:10] <Guest65540> no I didn't
[01:10] <Guest65540> I have two installations of linux ..
[01:10] <n00bz> well, my startup screen is grub error, and i don't know what to do...
[01:11] <Septima> n00bz: have you ran boot-repair on it?
[01:11] <XMLnewbi__> is it possible using a VPS  to start from scratch and switch to cpanel's
[01:11] <tomreyn> Guest65540: okay, can you please list the installations of linux and other operating sstems you have on this cetbook, including the linux kernel versions for me?
[01:11] <tomreyn> *netbook
[01:11] <n00bz> septima if i knew how, i might
[01:12] <n00bz> but what will boot repair do?
[01:12] <Guest65540> ok.. I have mythbuntu 12.04 installed it's using 3.2 35 I think
[01:12] <RollinV2> XML yes you can install cpanel on a VPS if your host OS is supported (ex CentOS)
[01:12] <n00bz> i need windows at the moment, to run a VM to be able to use ubuntu, because my internet doesn't work with it
[01:12] <Guest65540> and I have xubuntu 12.10 and it's using 3.5 0.21
[01:13] <Guest65540> I want to try upgrading the mythbuntu to 3.3.
[01:13] <doctorly> I am having problems connecting to the internet. When I initially ran the setup, it connected fine. But now I cant see the ssid of any network and I cant connect if I do it manually, I have the right driver and everything though.
[01:13] <RollinV2> n00bz if you have moderatly powerful system virtualizing ubuntu as a guest in a windows host is fine
[01:13] <Septima> n00bz: well if ubuntu's in the VM, you can do one of two things: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:14] <Septima> n00bz: either mount the boot-repair disk image or mount the ubuntu install iso
[01:14] <RollinV2> noobz, if you have the cash using vmware + vmware tools makes the ubuntu vm management a lot easier
[01:14] <Septima> vmware player is free
[01:15] <RollinV2> yes, workstation is much improved but not worth the cash for average users
[01:15]  * n00bzz kicks her ISP
[01:16] <Septima> n00bzz: you can use boot repair one of two ways: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair the difference with a VM is that you load the iso up in the vm instead of burning it to a cd
[01:17] <tomreyn> Guest65540: alright, gotcha. if you don't mind, can you pick a different nickname, this would make adressing you easier for me.
[01:17] <Guest65540> how do you change again? /nick "username"?
[01:17] <n00bzz> i have it on my HD as well septima, it's just useless to me without internet
[01:17] <ATI> there we go
[01:17] <ATI> haha
[01:18] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, cool, i hope this nickname isn't taken, yet.
[01:18] <Septima> n00bzz: you had the usb modem didn't you?
[01:18] <n00bzz> yesh septima
[01:18] <Septima> n00bzz: did that setup page not work for you?
[01:18] <n00bzz> i've 48 hours experience with linux, i'm still trying to understand
[01:18] <n00bzz> nothing works out of the box >.<
[01:19] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, let's concentrate on getting the drivers work on xubuntu 12.10 for now, i need yet to read up more, brb
[01:19] <ATI> oh ok.. no problem.
[01:19] <Septima> n00bzz: honestly, usb modems are just an odd thing
[01:20] <n00bzz> i struggled septima, since i could only make changes to ubuntu in my VM, while i look at the instructions
[01:20] <kevinch> dumb question, how can I find which files are using my boot drives space?
[01:20] <kevinch> like the biggest files/directories.  I have other hdd's mounted that I don't care about, they're nearly empty
[01:20] <Septima> n00bzz: well doing it in the VM won't work.. because your VM is getting it's connection routed through your host (windows)
[01:21] <Septima> n00bzz: i'd print the instructions and use your other install
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: you can do this in the terminal with (du or find or ls) and you can try in the gui with 'disk usage analyzer'
[01:22] <kevinch> yeah this is ubuntu server so i'll have to use du or something
[01:22] <n00bzz> i'd need to dload usb_switchmode for that septima?
[01:22] <ATI> tomreyn:  not sure if this info is needed.  Under 12.04 when I hit glxinfo render reads Gallium 0.4 on AMD PALM while on 12.10 it stats LLVMpipe.
[01:22] <Septima> n00bzz: with apt-get? i'd try it.. if it already has it, it'll say so and won't bother downloading it again
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-find-the-largest-filesdirectories-on-a-linuxunixbsd-filesystem/
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> good start up article
[01:23] <kevinch> thanks
[01:23] <n00bzz> blah, wont work without internet septima :P
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> yw
[01:23] <Septima> n00bzz: yeah, i realized that after i said it
[01:23] <n00bzz> heh
[01:24] <kevinch> du just hangs sometimes
[01:24] <Septima> n00bzz: looks like it's already pre-installed on ubuntu 12.10
[01:25] <kevinch> i also have 0 bytes free so that could be a problem
[01:25] <n00bzz> excellent, finally some good news septima :D
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: yea possible 0 space causes odd issues with applications
[01:25] <kevinch> time to go deleting
[01:25] <brucet927> Is this the right place to ask a simple question about ubuntu one?
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: is this a remote server?
[01:27] <IdleOne> brucet927: #ubuntuone is the place
[01:27] <brucet927> cheers Idle0ne
[01:27] <kevinch> home media server SolarisBoy
[01:28] <t-rex_> can someone help me figure out my wireless situation? I am using a netbook and cant figure out why the connection went out
[01:28] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, thanks. now start with the instructions in the firts answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-restore-default-video-drivers
[01:29] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: boot the live cd and run the du's find's from there if needed
[01:29] <tomreyn> ATI: that's until the reboot, do not install the ati drivers afterwards.
[01:29] <kevinch> i found a few to delete
[01:29] <kevinch> 30gb may be too small for a boot drive and temp download folder eh?
[01:29] <ATI> ok give me a second.
[01:30] <SolarisBoy> 30gb for boot is huge unless you plan on having a *lot* of kernels
[01:30] <SolarisBoy> unless you mean boot=root..
[01:30] <WeThePeople> how do i setup a second monitor in 12.04?
[01:30] <kevinch> then something is taking up my disk
[01:30] <kevinch> nope not at all, but I do plan on using it for a temporary download folder
[01:30] <ATI> tomreyn do you know if I can do this through ssh?
[01:30] <kevinch> for sickbeard/couchpotato
[01:31] <tomreyn> ATI: yes you can
[01:31] <ATI> tomreyn: ok will do...
[01:32] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: which user are you?
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: if your having problems with commands && your disk supports and has reserved space - you can maybe do the stuff as root
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> s/disk/file system/
[01:33] <kevinch> I was doing root btw
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> ok
[01:34] <kevinch>  /dev/sdc1                           30439744  29387828          0 100% /
[01:34] <kevinch> 0 available
[01:34] <kevinch> but I just deleted some
[01:35] <tripelb> Could someone explain to me what is the difference/distinction between askUbuntu and Ubuntu Forums? Thanks.
[01:35] <brucet927> I'm using the gallium drivers for this laptop's graphics card (ATI X1200), would their be a performance boost using the official proprietary drivers from ATI?
[01:36] <ATI> tomreyn:  weird I can't seem to libgl1-mesa-dri package when I try the apt-get install
[01:36] <tomreyn> kevinch: it says there's more data stored on it than the max capacity. unmount and run fsck.
[01:36] <kevinch> its my boot drive
[01:36] <kevinch> can i safely unmount?
[01:36] <ATI> tomreyn: iis there a repository I should try adding?
[01:37] <kevinch> I don't think my mounts for my other 2 drives (2TB each are working, sick beard is saying its out of space)
[01:37] <ATI> tomreyn: oh wait nevermind... It copied and pasted wrong.. sorry about that
[01:37] <tomreyn> ATI: no, this should be in default repositories. please post the output of the failed command, as well as the command itself (you ran) to a pastebin
[01:38] <tomreyn> ok
[01:38] <Dr_Willis_> askubuntu.com is a lot more orginized for one tripelb  :)
[01:39] <b44> How to update ubuntu 10.04 stable to testing ?
[01:39] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, have you setup up dual monitors in 12.04
[01:39] <iceroot> b44: dont do that if you dont know how to upgrade to the development version
[01:39] <tomreyn> kevinch: touch /forcefsck && reboot
[01:40] <WeThePeople> dr_willis_,have you setup up dual monitors in 12.04
[01:40] <b44> iceroot: you mean apt-get update  ?
[01:40] <iceroot> b44: no
[01:40] <iceroot> b44: that command will not update your packages
[01:40] <iceroot> b44: why you want 13.04?
[01:41] <b44> iceroot: I don't want 13.04 ... I just want the "testing" mode of 10.04 instead of "stable"
[01:41] <iceroot> b44: and what is the testing-mode on 10.04?
[01:41] <ATI> tomreyn: alright went through all the instructions and rebooted.  I still get the same results.
[01:41] <ATI> tomreyn: could it be that I need to configure the xorg.conf?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis_> WeThePeople:  with my nvidia systems.. I just plug them in. make sure i got hte nvidia drivers installed and with 12.10 twinview auto kicks in.
[01:42] <b44> hm... maybe I misunderstood something. iceroot, what I want is to install the newest openjdk and scala packages. That's why I wanted to change to "testing packages" instead of "stable packages". E.g stable java-jdk is v6, but testing is v7
[01:42] <WeThePeople> dr_willis_, i have the other monitor plugged in and its not auto detecting it
[01:43] <iceroot> !backports | b44
[01:43] <ATI> tomreyn:  even though I ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" no xorg.conf was created under /etc/X11
[01:43] <tomreyn> ATI: you shouldn't need to configure xorg, it should be automatic.
[01:43] <ATI> tomreyn: the xorg.conf file is empty.
[01:43] <tomreyn> ATI: xorg populates the contents of this file in memory when it starts up
[01:44] <tomreyn> so it is never written to disk
[01:45] <iceroot> tomreyn: udev is managing the settings and its created at every boot.
[01:45] <ATI> tomreyn: oh hmm.. didn't know that.  anyways no drivers appear to be loading up correctly.. all I can select under display is 1024x768 and the refresh rate is 0 hz for the laptop screen!
[01:45] <tomreyn> ATI: that's when you use the open source drivers. we'll see what you are running now. please run: sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA | pastebinit
[01:45] <iceroot> tomreyn: if you want to overwrite the detecting of udev you have to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:46] <tomreyn> iceroot: we don't want to for now. udev writes an xorg.conf? where to?
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: no
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: udev is detecting the settings and communicationg directly with xorg
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: without a config file
[01:46] <ATI> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453774/
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: if you want an own config you have to create xorg.conf. everything in that file will overwrite the settings from udev
[01:47] <tomreyn> iceroot: okay, this sounds like i can agree to it :) thanks for explaining.
[01:47] <tomreyn> ATI: oh, i expected you to have two actually. having just one should make it easier.
[01:48] <tomreyn> ATI: can you re-run this with slight modification please: sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A20 VGA | pastebinit
[01:48] <ATI> tomreyn: it should be ... but I guess nothing ATI ever produces is ever easy to work with
[01:48] <ATI> ok..
[01:49] <ATI> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453782/
[01:49] <R33p3R> need some help please !
[01:50] <R33p3R> i have a 3g dongle, when i boot the computer with the dongle on usb port it works, but when i start unity then insert the dongle it doesn t recognise it
[01:50] <R33p3R> someone having the same prob could give me some lights plz
[01:51] <tomreyn> ATI: okay so your ati is detected correctly and you're using the right driver already, that's good. can you sum up the problems again for me?
[01:51] <ATI> tomreyn:  I can't even change my display settings, and nothing is outputed through hdmi.  right now I am stuck at 1024x768
[01:52] <ATI> tomreyn: maybe I using my windows experience, but usually that meant that the drivers aren't loaded correctly?
[01:53] <b44> iceroot: thanks. I enabled backports, and configured backports to be used automatically in installs. But apt-cache search only shows openjdk-7-jre, not openjdk-7-jdk. Why?
[01:54] <iceroot> !info openjdk-7-jre lucid-backports
[01:55] <iceroot> !lucid
[01:55] <iceroot> b44: what is the output of "apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre
[01:55] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, let's see what Xorg says about it, can you post the log, please? ( ls -lah /var/log/Xorg.*.log && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ) | pastebinit
[01:55] <iceroot> !info openjdk-7-jre lucid
[01:56] <b44> iceroot: hm.... it's installed: none,  and all other things empty
[01:56] <b44> seems not to be available :/
[01:56] <iceroot> b44: the name of the repo is interesting
[01:57] <iceroot> b44: you said its shown up via apt-cache
[01:58] <b44> yes
[01:58] <ATI> tomreyn:  are you sure "ls -lah /var/log/Xorg.*.log && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ) | pastebinit" is the right syntax?  it says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[01:58] <iceroot> ATI: remove the )
[01:58] <tomreyn> ATI: you're missing the leading paratheses
[01:58] <ATI> iceroot:  oh wait.. yeah thanks
[01:59] <ATI> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453804/
[01:59] <tomreyn> thanks
[01:59] <b44> iceroot: hm.. It's strange. When I autofill after typing "apt-get install" I get openjdk-7-jre as option. But "apt-cache search openjdk" doesn't give
[02:00] <b44> iceroot: Any way to install java v7 ?
[02:00] <b44> isn't it supported on 10.04 ?
[02:01] <ouyes> how many of you are running 12.04?
[02:01] <ouyes> a lot of new hardware is not good supported on 12.04
[02:02] <kevinch> I'm only using 92% of / but I still get this error when I run du
[02:02] <kevinch> sort: write failed: /tmp/sortP2mbdQ: No space left on device
[02:02] <kevinch> well this command in particular
[02:02] <kevinch> du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 10
[02:02] <who0ami> hi
[02:02] <Dr_Willis_> kevinch:  7% is reserved normally for root/lost+found ussage
[02:02] <Dr_Willis_> oope 5%
[02:03] <Dr_Willis_> kevinch:  also be sure your /tmp/ is not mounted to a ram device. :) like mine is
[02:03] <ouyes> kevinch, why not try to make space
[02:03] <kevinch> I'm trying to figure out whats taking up all my space
[02:03] <kevinch> so its difficult to do so
[02:04] <kevinch> with being so low
[02:04] <ouyes> Dr_Willis_, why you mount your /tmp to ram device? how many ram do you have?
[02:04] <tomreyn> ATI: hmm you're right, it's using the VESA fallback drivers for some reason, that's bad.
[02:04] <Dr_Willis_> ouroz:  8gb of ram on a SSD system.  :)
[02:05] <tomreyn> [    17.434] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[02:05] <tomreyn> [    17.434] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[02:06] <tomreyn> this is bad
[02:06] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm..  what does drm do?
[02:06] <kevinch> i hate running out of room
[02:06] <kevinch> so annoying
[02:07] <kevinch> and hard to get out of
[02:07] <tomreyn> ATI: direct rendering mode, a requirement for 3D acceleration
[02:08] <ATI> tomreyn: ahh... I could have sworn it worked under live-usb .. let me check.  once it rebooted I started getting this problem again.
[02:09] <tomreyn> ok
[02:10] <ATI> tomreyn: yeah.. no problems... arghhhhhhh.........
[02:12] <ATI> tomreyn: is there some way I can take the live-usb display settings and to replace the installed version's?
[02:14] <tomreyn> ATI: good question, i don't know how. having its Xorg.0.log could already help, though
[02:14] <joggers> hi
[02:14] <ATI> tomreyn: you mean I should pastebin that too?
[02:15] <tomreyn> ATI: yes please
[02:16] <ATI> alright give me a second.. I guess I should try install openssh-server so I can copy and paste easier
[02:16] <djzn> anyone figured out how to make the mouse pointer LARGER in Unity+Compiz ?
[02:18] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm.. you wouldn't know the password to a live-cd where the username is this would you?
[02:18] <tomreyn> ATI: good plan. btw. here's how you could dump the config (but you'd need to do this from a real terminal, i.e. ctrl-alt-F1 or so; SSH should also work): http://mummila.net/nuudelisoppa/2012/06/25/dump-effective-xorg-conf-note-to-self/
[02:19] <tomreyn> tomreyn: where the username is what?
[02:19] <n00bzz> ugh, how do i get boot repair without internet?
[02:19] <ATI> tomreyn: username is "this"
[02:19] <ATI> tomreyn: it's the default username
[02:19] <ATI> tomreyn: I don't know what the default password is...
[02:19] <tomreyn> ATI: is it? that's news to me.
[02:20] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm.. let me look up how to change passwords
[02:21] <tomreyn> ATI: sudo passwd <username>
[02:21] <tomreyn> but you'll need to be able to run sudo
[02:22] <tomreyn> or just run "passwd" to set a password when you're the "this" user already
[02:22] <ATI> tomreyn: cool thanks.
[02:23] <ATI> tomreyn: ok.. here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453833/
[02:24] <tomreyn> ATI: please do: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:25] <tomreyn> you have two options there which you need to remove: radeon.audio=1 radeon.modeset=1
[02:25] <me_> helllo?
[02:25] <djzn> hey guys, i'm trying to make my pointer larger, any tips? seems like dconf-editor do change the sizes, but the pointer is inconsistent in some apps and unty.
[02:25] <wa5qjh> KEEP CALM and remember that if the MAYANS could predict the future, there would still be MAYANS!
[02:25] <ATI> tomreyn: oh..  ok.. let me get rid of those.  I need to reboot then
[02:25] <tomreyn> ATI: then reboot, and post your X log file again
[02:26] <tomreyn> right
[02:26] <me_> that is tru
[02:26] <ATI> tomreyn: should I try getting the xorg.conf stuff from the live cd first?
[02:26] <tomreyn> ATI: yes give it a try first
[02:26] <ATI> tomreyn ok... you said ssh should be fine right?
[02:27] <tomreyn> ATI: yes should be. the grpahical output on the monitor will fail, but i guess that's okay
[02:28] <ATI> tomreyn ok... I am almost finish getting the dump just need to winscp it
[02:28] <tomreyn> you can pastebin it
[02:29] <ATI> how do you pastebin exactly?
[02:29] <tomreyn> pastebinit /path/to/file
[02:29] <ATI> ahh.. ok
[02:29] <tomreyn> will post the file to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <ATI> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453836/
[02:30] <ATI> ok rebooting now
[02:32] <MrWibbles> is there a way of using setfacl so it applies to every directory in a path
[02:32] <MrWibbles> i.e. setfacl --modify user:whatever:r-x /this/and/this/and/this
[02:32] <MrWibbles> so it doesn't apply to /this/notthis for example
[02:33] <ATI> tomreyn: alright so I removed radeon=1 stuff.. did a sudo update-grub and I still have the same problem
[02:34] <ATI> tomreyn: after a reboot that is.
[02:34] <ATI> tomreyn: should I try putting the xorg.conf in now?
[02:35] <tomreyn> ATI: what's the output of: grep -F '[KMS]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <tomreyn> ATI: this should be a single line only, if so you can post it here
[02:35] <ATI> grep -F '[KMS]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <ATI> whops
[02:36] <tomreyn> :)
[02:36] <ATI> [    17.407] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[02:36] <tomreyn> dang
[02:36] <tomreyn> ATI: grep -F 'Kernel command line' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:37] <tomreyn> also a single line, can also go here
[02:37] <ATI> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-21-generic root=UUID=6924c69f-4fca-48fd-90d3-be094fc50c59 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[02:37] <tomreyn> hmm okay, well try the xorg.conf then
[02:37] <ATI> alright
[02:38] <tomreyn> if it works that way we can modify it to make it less static.
[02:39] <ATI> hah.. it didn't work........ hahah
[02:40] <b44> missing dependency "libjansi-java" for installing "scala 2.9.2-400"
[02:40] <b44> How to install that? it's not in listed in packages..
[02:40] <lipton> hi
[02:40] <ATI> tomreyn: maybe I should just try reinstalling xubuntu again............
[02:43] <tomreyn> ATI: so you're saying it worked initially and broken when you tried fglrx?
[02:44] <ATI> tomreyn: I don't quite remember... but I don't think it ever worked.....  then I got some instructions to try installing vaapi... that didn't work, and it installed fglrx which I later purged..
[02:45] <ATI> tomreyn: fglrx works.. but it feels slower when using mythtv under 12.04.. the problem was 12.04 and opensource is that the sound wasn't working
[02:46] <ATI> tomreyn: that is.. sound through hdmi.
[02:47] <tomreyn> i'Ve also read reports on fglrx being slower than radeon (if it works)
[02:48] <ATI> yeah.. I read that if I had kernel 3.3+ installed that sound was supported.. but I couldn't get that working.
[02:48] <tomreyn> and here it says that the "[KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported." problem reported in Xorg.0.log can be prevented by disabling the framebuffer: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0
[02:48] <ATI> I mean I couldn't install 3.3
[02:48] <ATI> oh let me read that
[02:49] <ATI> do I disable the framebuffer in the xorg.conf?
[02:50] <tomreyn> well, the gentoo people did it by rebuilding their kernel, that's not really the preferred option for us.
[02:50] <ATI> haha
[02:51] <tomreyn> you could probably blacklist the module, or maybe it's possible in xorg.conf, too. the xorg.conf you created on the live cd sets a lower priority on it, this can be sufficient to fix the issue, too
[02:51] <ATI> I can reinstall xubuntu again just to check that I didn't set anything weird the first time around.....
[02:52] <ATI> hmm.. ok.  let me look into how to disable the framebuffer though xorg
[02:52] <tomreyn> the other issue when you disable the framebuffer device, though, is that i think you loose the failsafe X, too, i.e. if the radeon driver doesn'T work you then get no output at all
[02:52] <tomreyn> no grpahical output, that is
[02:53] <tomreyn> i think you would best try the xorg.conf from the live CD now
[02:54] <ATI> I did try the xorg.conf from the live cd ...
[02:54] <treenom> I really need help getting my wifi working. I was connected, but after I updated it started saying that I am now disconnected. It wont even list any ssid
[02:54] <tomreyn> and rebooted?
[02:54] <ATI> yeah.. I rebooted and everything was the same
[02:54] <ATI> same problem.
[02:54] <treenom> as me?
[02:55] <ATI> sorry talking to tomreyn
[02:55] <tomreyn> ATI: had you done this again? still same output? grep -F '[KMS]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:56] <ATI> [    17.324] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[02:56] <tomreyn> well that sucks :-/
[02:56] <ATI> yeah..
[02:57] <ATI> it looks like I can disable the framebuffer through grub?
[02:57] <ATI> just add " vga=normal nomodeset"?
[02:57] <treenom> I am having a really hard time with my wireless, if any one could point me in the right direction, it would be amazing
[03:00] <tomreyn> ATI: vga=nofb OR vga=normal should work, yes, why nomodeset?
[03:01] <ATI> tomreyn: oh  I don't know.. didn't check..
[03:01] <tomreyn> ATI: i guess you should actually put the radeon.modeset=1 in again, to force it
[03:02] <tomreyn> as well as the vga option, then update-grub, reboot, rename xorg.conf (so it is no longer used), reboot again.
[03:02] <ATI> ok give me a second.
[03:04] <samm> ello World
[03:05] <fsvieira> hi, I am a linux user for many years, I have ubuntu with unity, I love unity but it freeze most of the times in the last updates... how can I solve this, and should I switch to a more open UI?
[03:07] <Septima> fsvieira: i'd upgrade my video drivers
[03:11] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm.. well vga=nofb with the radeon mode =1 thingy didn't work correctly.. now all I get is a black screen, and I can't even ssh in..
[03:11] <Kardos> can the bootable install cd assemble a mdadm array?
[03:11] <fsvieira> Septima, I am upgraded , another thing I notice is the performace, I just buy some games, and in untiy they are slow but in gnome shell they are more fast.
[03:13] <tomreyn> ATI: you mean radeon.modeset=1 right
[03:13] <tomreyn> ATI: not being able to SSH in is strange... anyway, do a ctrl-alt-delete, then hold down shift when it boots
[03:13] <ATI> use set gfxpayload=vga=nofb before linux command instead text is deprecated
[03:13] <ATI> error unrecognized number
[03:13] <ATI> you need to load the kernel first
[03:13] <Septima> fsvieira: then i'd stop using unity
[03:14] <tomreyn> ATI: holding down shift will bring up the grub menu, where you can then edit out the problematic lines so you can boot up fine again.
[03:14] <ATI> sorry that is.  text is deprecated.  use set gfxpayload=vga=nofb before linux command instead. then the error stuff
[03:14] <ATI> oh ok
[03:14] <fsvieira> Septima, yeah thats what I am going to do, but I really start liking unity... but yeah I think I should stop
[03:15] <tomreyn> ATI: where is this message from, and where do we use "text"?
[03:15] <ATI> that's when I try to run ubuntu under grub
[03:15] <ATI> that's the error that comes up
[03:15] <ATI> and then it returns back to the grub menu
[03:15] <Septima> fsvieira: it'll improve with some more development time on it
[03:16] <Sazpaimon> is there a way to have unity do windows-style alt+tab where it doesn't group applications and just shows all windows?
[03:17] <tomreyn> ATI: maybe "nofb" is an alias for "text". anyway, the easiest option now is probably just to remove all the extra options and boot it up then
[03:17] <fsvieira> Septima, what I was asking is if I can do something... maybe I am doing something wrong
[03:17] <tomreyn> ATI: i'm afraid i will need to wrap it up pretty soon, it's kind of late here, or early rather.
[03:17] <ATI> oh.. I tried the vga=normal instead.. and it loads.. but I still get the same problem as before... where the vesa drivers are loading up
[03:18] <ATI> tomreyn: that's okay.. thanks a lot for your help
[03:18] <tomreyn> ATI: another option you have is to try updated kernel + video drivers, i.e. xorg-edgers.
[03:18] <Septima> fsvieira: i haven't heard of anything to improve unity in that aspect. i personally just went the xfce route instead, when i experienced the 'show nothing but my wallpaper' bug between unity and amd/ati cards
[03:19] <ATI> tomreyn: ok.. I will look into that
[03:19] <ZNaught> hello, could someone help me with nvidia driver install?
[03:19] <tomreyn> ATI: but getting back from that to where you are now can be annoying. so ... just saying.
[03:20] <ATI> tomreyn:  I am going to do a fresh install of xubuntu first and then try to troubleshoot from there..
[03:20] <ZNaught> after installing the NVIDIA drivers, the desktop does not load after login
[03:22] <tomreyn> ATI: i assume this won't actually fix it, but sure, give it a try.
[03:22] <Ziber> I've updated my /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding file, to allow my server to be an IPv6 router. How do I make it take effect?
[03:22] <tomreyn> ATI: the other way around might be better, though
[03:22] <tomreyn> ATI: since when you have xorg-edgers and it works worse than now, downgrading is annoying, but if you want to reinstall anyways then: no loss
[03:23] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/
[03:24] <ATI> how do I add that repository?
[03:26] <tomreyn> ATI: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg-video-ati && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <fsvieira> Septima, ok tx
[03:27] <ZNaught> can anyone help with nvidia driver install?
[03:27] <tomreyn> ATI:  also do this in the end: sudo apt-get install mesa
[03:28] <tomreyn> ATI: and run "COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l mesa" and make sure it reports something with "sarvatt" on the version column
[03:29] <tomreyn> only then did the upgraded packages get installed properly
[03:29] <tomreyn> ATI: xorg-edgers also has an updated fglrx driver which you can also try if the open source one doesn't work.
[03:29] <tomreyn> package fglrx-installer
[03:30] <ATI> tomreyn: alright give me a second to do all of that..
[03:30] <tomreyn> ATI: i'll bbiab, then gone
[03:31] <Septima> ZNaught: did you uninstall the restricted modules
[03:31] <ATI> ok.. it can' find the package mesa
[03:32] <ZNaught> Septima: I did not, couldnt find any tutorials that said to do anything other than install from a repository
[03:32] <ATI> tomreyn: sorry about that.. right it says unable to locate package mesa
[03:32] <Septima> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=668c17af7112b1fd88a5fbe57e4f1411&t=72490
[03:32] <Alexa22> Is ubuntu a good choice to put on my netbook 1g Ram 200g hdd
[03:32] <Septima> ZNaught: for removing the restricted modules
[03:33] <ZNaught> Septima, will this require me to uninstall the old drivers and reinstall?
[03:34] <Septima> ZNaught: i'd uninstall them, and make sure everything is cleaned up, then install the nvidia drivers that you downloaded from nvidia's site
[03:34] <Garheade> Alexa22: It should work just fine on a netbook.
[03:34] <ZNaught> how would I do that Septima? Heck, I dont even know how to run a .run file. I am trying linux for first time
[03:35] <Septima> ZNaught: in a console use the 'cd' command to change to the directory where they were downloaded.. for instance: cd ~/Downloads
[03:35] <Septima> ZNaught: then use: chmod +x driverfilename.run
[03:36] <Alexa22> I am doing ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook
[03:36] <Alexa22> just need to figure out how to make boot from usb
[03:36] <ZNaught> ok thanks, but how do I uninstall?
[03:36] <Septima> ZNaught: then it's just a matter of running them... sudo sh ./driverfilename.run
[03:36] <Alexa22> hey is Java a good coding language to know for programming linux apps?
[03:37] <ZNaught> Septima, what about uninstalling?
[03:37] <Septima> ZNaught: well for the restricted modules it speaks about, you'd do something like: sudo apt-get --purge remove restrictedmodules
[03:38] <Septima> ZNaught: for the files it specifies, i'd delete them in the terminal.. using the rm command
[03:38] <Septima> ZNaught: it also says to purge and remove nvidia-glx
[03:38] <mark___> hello
[03:39] <mark___> can someone recommend a good vnc/screensharing solution for ubuntu? i seem to remember a newish solution coming out a fwe months ago. any ideas?
[03:39] <ZNaught> Septima, but I already have the drivers installed, how can I uninstall them?
[03:40] <Ziber> Anyone familiar with radvd, is there anything else I have to do except put my prefixes in the config file and reload it in order for my server to start advertising IPv6 addresses on my LAN?
[03:40] <Septima> ZNaught: looks like you need to do: sudo apt-get install build-essential pkg-config xserver-xorg-dev
[03:41] <Septima> ZNaught: and additionally install the linux headers for your kernel version.. you can get your version by typing uname -a
[03:41] <Septima> ZNaught: if you get all that set up there, i'd try just running the .run file
[03:42] <tomreyn> ATI: hmm, maybe the PPA didn't install properly then. got any error messages while setting it up (using the long line of commands i posted)?
[03:42] <ZNaught> Septima, how do I install the headers? Sorry
[03:42] <Septima> ZNaught: sudo apt-get install
[03:42] <MrWibbles> hey guys
[03:42] <tomreyn> ATI: this line: <tomreyn> ATI: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg-video-ati && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:42] <ZNaught> Septima, just that line?
[03:43] <MrWibbles> i'm having issues with permissions.. is there anyway to apply  user:whatever:r-x to all the directories contained in /a/b/c
[03:43] <MrWibbles> but not their subdirectories
[03:43] <Septima> ZNaught: if you type like: sudo apt-get install linux-header, then hit tab a few times, i'll list what's available.. like i said, you need to get the ones to match your kernel version, which you can find out by typing uname -a
[03:43] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: Yes, but first why do you want to do this?
[03:43] <MrWibbles> so that an application can access its files
[03:44] <MrWibbles> it need r-x on every directory to the application directory
[03:44] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: What application? What files?
[03:44] <MrWibbles> each application has it's own system user
[03:44] <ZNaught> Septima, ok to recap: Uninstall the NVidia drivers by installing the linux headers, then remove the restricted modules and files, then run the .run file?
[03:44] <MrWibbles> the applications files.. different depending on what language the application is writtain in
[03:45] <Septima> ZNaught: yes
[03:45] <MrWibbles> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8916056/acl-along-a-directory-path << shit
[03:45] <tomreyn> ATI: packages available in this repository: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=quantal    - you also want the linux update to 3.7 and newest linux-firmware
[03:45] <ZNaught> ok thanks. I will give it a shot
[03:45] <Ziber> anyone with radvd experience might be able to help me get my server to start advertising addresses?
[03:45] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: Normally such directories are created automatically, and with the correct permissions. The fact that you're asking this question makes me wonder if there is something else wrong which needs to be fixed rather than worked around.
[03:46] <tomreyn> ATI: the 'mesa' package may be virtual only and thus not be listed in dpkg -l output. but "apt-cache search mesa" should find it.
[03:46] <ATI> tomreyn: is there anyway I can just download the packages manually?
[03:46] <MrWibbles> jordan_u:  ok.. application doesn't exist... other applications do  /srv/dd/application_name gets created.. r-x permissions need to be added to /srv and /srv/dd
[03:47] <MrWibbles> the user only gets created when the application is created
[03:47] <tomreyn> ATI: click on the links on the page i just sent you, but using the PPA does work, and you should use it if by all means possible to be able to properly revolce dependencies.
[03:47] <MrWibbles> one option would be to add all the applications to a group and then give the group permissions
[03:47] <ATI> basically the error is this W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/mesa9/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[03:47] <ATI> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/mesa9/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:47] <ATI> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/mesa9/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:47] <MrWibbles> but i thought it would be more obvious if it just listed out all the applications specifically
[03:48] <tomreyn> ATI:  how did this mesa9 get there?
[03:48] <ATI> I might have tried putting a mesa9 repository in there...
[03:48] <tomreyn> ATI: why?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: I still don't understand your situation, but "chown user:group /path/to/directories/*/" should change the user and group of all directories within the directory "/path/to/directories/". Try with simply "echo /path/to/directories/*/" first to confirm that that glob gets you the results you want.
[03:49] <ATI> tomreyn: that was before.. I came on here to get assitance.
[03:49] <ATI> I also get this error Err http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main Sources
[03:49] <ATI>   404  Not Found
[03:49] <ATI> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main amd64 Packages
[03:49] <ATI>   404  Not Found
[03:49] <ATI> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main i386 Packages
[03:49] <FloodBot1> ATI: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:49] <ATI>   404  Not Found
[03:50] <tomreyn> ATI: i see, well you can remove those lines. and don't paste here, use the pastebin
[03:50] <MrWibbles> Jordan: has to use ACL
[03:50] <ATI> oh ... sorry.
[03:50] <ATI> how do I remove those repositories?
[03:50] <tomreyn> ATI: i think you had a typo on the apt-add-repository command.
[03:51] <MrWibbles> Jordan: the stackoverload question pretty much says you can't do it
[03:51] <MrWibbles> so i have to apply r-x to each individual directory
[03:52] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: That glob should allow you to use whatever command you want with all of the directories within another directory. I have no idea what stack overload question you're referencing. For more information on globs see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Patterns .
[03:52] <tomreyn> ATI repository definitions added by apt-add-repository are stored at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - identify the one which has "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net ..." (i.e. blank space behind the .net) and delete the file. then run ap-add-repository again
[03:52] <ATI> tomreyn: I entered "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa".  it looks like it's working
[03:52] <Success> hey guys I left for a while and everything seems to be working now, thanks for the help!
[03:53] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, then it should work indeed. maybe the broken line is one from an earlier attempt then
[03:53] <tomreyn> ATI: apt-get update && apt-cache policy    # gives you a list of the currently defined repositories
[03:54] <tomreyn> ATI: good luck, and good night, at some point. i'll likely be around again the other day if you wish to continue.
[03:54] <jk_> hey, i m new to this channel
[03:54] <ATI> alright thanks a lot!
[03:54] <tomreyn> hi + bye jk
[03:54] <tomreyn> yw ATI
[03:55] <lenochka_> здесь русские естьб
[03:55] <lenochka_> ???
[03:55] <rxnngut>  Mientras Pueda Escribir, Yo Soy El ReY que Sabe Meter Clones Jua Jua Todos Estupidos :D
[03:55] <brzglvz>  Mientras Pueda Escribir, Yo Soy El ReY que Sabe Meter Clones Jua Jua Todos Estupidos :D
[03:55] <tomreyn> !ru lenochka_
[03:55] <Septima> !ru | lenochka_
[03:55] <lenochka_> спасибо
[03:55] <tomreyn> !ops rxnngut , brzglvz
[03:55] <brzglvz>  FlooD MortaL: A Joderse Todos Mientras Este Yo Jua Jua
[03:55] <rxnngut>  FlooD MortaL: A Joderse Todos Mientras Este Yo Jua Jua
[03:55] <Septima> o.O
[04:01] <confused> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me.  I have a vps that I am setting up to be a web server via xmapp that is running ubuntu 12.04 64bit.  I am wanting to set it up to use xmapp's version of apache instead of the preinstalled version at startup, yet have no clue where to start.  Google has just lead to chain smoking and crying in the corner
[04:04] <ghosty> hello
[04:04] <asher^> hi all. is there a way i can change the mirror that apt-get is trying to get packages from? the mirror that is trying to use is missing packages
[04:05] <xangua>  asher^: software center, edit, sources
[04:06] <confused> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me.  I have a vps that I am setting up to be a web server via xmapp that is running ubuntu 12.04 64bit.  I am wanting to set it up to use xmapp's version of apache instead of the preinstalled version at startup, yet have no clue where to start.  Google has just lead to chain smoking and crying in the corner
[04:07] <jk_> what date is today?
[04:07] <asher^> xangua thanks!
[04:07] <ghostts> is there a way to lock my wireless driver? so it cant be updated or messed with at all?
[04:08] <asher^> is it unusual for mirrors to be missing packages btw? i was on the australian one
[04:09] <jk_> how to make my ubuntu work with wireless
[04:09] <confused> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me.  I have a vps that I am setting up to be a web server via xmapp that is running ubuntu 12.04 64bit.  I am wanting to set it up to use xmapp's version of apache instead of the preinstalled version at startup,I have configured xmapp to run at startup, but have no clue how to disable auto start of the apache2 server that came preinstalled
[04:09] <xangua> !repeat | confused
[04:10] <somsip> asher^: sometimes they fall behind
[04:10] <confused> My apologies for the repeat, figured I'd update it with a bit more info
[04:13] <jonesn420> hi. could someone help me figure out how to make lxpanels temperature addon display my temp in F and not C
[04:16] <jonesn420> hi. could someone help me figure out how to make lxpanels temperature addon display my temp in F and not C
[04:18] <Gool> hi
[04:19] <pkh> finding it tough to put together a google query for this... is it posible to 'cd' into a folder that's been mounted over without umounting the other? (e.g. / is part1, /home is part2, /home on part1 still contains crap, want to delete.)
[04:20] <zoite_> pkh, i dont believe so
[04:21] <pkh> k, will shut it down, pullt he drive and mount is elsewhere, thanks
[04:23] <somsip> pkh: no - the files on part1 are effectively hidden and unaccessible by the mount of part2
[04:24] <pkh> cheers. just thought there might be some weird way to access that would have saved me pulling the drive -- go no livecd lying around...
[04:25] <somsip> pkh: I had the same thing with a /boot which confused me greatly. Nothing I found indiciated there was a way round it, but boot to live CD wasn't too onerous
[04:26] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm having a problem where I can ping localhost and DNS servers, but can't browse to websites
[04:26] <bluesnow> I also can't use apt-get or other internet programs
[04:27] <bluesnow> I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> and DNS servers, but none of my other internet stuff works.
[04:27] <erncic> confused: 'sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove' will stop apache2 from starting
[04:27] <bluesnow> Can anyone help?
[04:27] <jonesn420> bluesnow, see if simple browser settings are auto detect or no proxy or what
[04:27] <jonesn420> that can sometimes affect
[04:28] <bluesnow> jonesn240: My browser is no proxy. However, my apt get and other programs that use networking are also not working.
[04:28] <jonesn420> right...
[04:28] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Any idea what's going on?
[04:28] <jonesn420> router settings?
[04:29] <bluesnow> jonesn240: I connected to a VPN yesterday, and apparently the VPN is known for messing with routing tables / internet configs
[04:29] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Yeah, I'd think so, but I already reset my routing table.
[04:29] <bluesnow> Maybe I didn't do it correctly?
[04:29] <bluesnow> I'm not sure if I ran the right command.
[04:29] <jonesn420> possibly i cant see. i know a bit of routing but not everything
[04:29] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Do you know how I could reset my routing table properly?
[04:29] <jonesn420> if u did just setup it once i would just try one more time
[04:30] <jonesn420> one sec gotta piss
[04:31] <jonesn420> did u even restart the network after changing it
[04:31] <jonesn420> still gotta piss brb just answer that for now
[04:31] <bluesnow> jonesn240: What do you mean by restarting the network?
[04:32] <jonesn420> service network restart
[04:33] <bluesnow> jonesn240: that returns 'network: unrecognized service'
[04:33] <jonesn420> sorry just thought u knew /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:33] <jonesn420> try that
[04:34] <bluesnow> jonesn240: That returns "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces"
[04:34] <bluesnow> Below that it says: Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[04:35] <jonesn420> i havent setup a small server in about 5years just trying to remember the commands... dont even remember if running sudo in front helps with more or not
[04:35] <bluesnow> jonesn240: I did run sudo in front of that
[04:35] <jonesn420> k
[04:37] <jonesn420> run sudo /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart
[04:37] <jonesn420> then rerun /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:38] <ZNaught> Septima, no luck, it booted back in with a reduced resolution (as I would have expected), but again desktop doesnt load
[04:39] <jonesn420> any change BluesKaj
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do you delete mail messages on ubuntu?
[04:40] <jonesn420> lol i mean bluesnow
[04:40] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Nope. It's strange that I can ping DNS servers if they messed with my routing table.
[04:41] <jonesn420> thats what i am tryin to figure out i started searchin a bit cause network issues bugged me bad back in day and still cant find nothin yet
[04:46] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do you delete mail messages on ubuntu?
[04:46] <jonesn420> u here bluesnow
[04:46] <bluesnow> jonesn420: yes
[04:48] <jonesn420> post a very detailed report of your problem on ubuntuforums and in a few hours or tonight i will take a good look at it. i will research a bit for you. i got a friend who is in IT that i talk to daily too and it could be simple since the issue is explained quite simple
[04:48] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay, thanks
[04:48] <erncic> bluesnow, can you telnet into a web server?
[04:48] <jonesn420> include all of your network information
[04:48] <jonesn420> do u have an ubuntuforums account
[04:48] <jonesn420> bluesnow?
[04:49] <bluesnow> jonesn420: No, but I can make one.
[04:49] <bluesnow> ernic: Not sure, I haven't tried.
[04:49] <bluesnow> I just don't understand why I can ping DNS servers but not connect to websites, or use any programs with networking
[04:49] <jonesn420> ok i will look for your name on there. just do a detailed network info report
[04:49] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay, thanks.
[04:49] <erncic> bluesnow: telnet google.com 80
[04:49] <jonesn420> it could be simple but like i said havent messed with this stuff in 4 or 5 years
[04:50] <bluesnow> telnet google.com 80 returns 'telnet: could not resolve google.com/80: Name or service not known.'
[04:50] <jonesn420> yeah bluesnow u could be in good hands with erncic  but if not i will look for your name or a similar name and recent post on ubuntuforums. i will find it if u post. gotta go
[04:50] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay. Thanks for all the help so far anyway.
[04:50] <erncic> should be a space between com and 80
[04:51] <jonesn420> no problem just returnin a favor i had to ask someone a simple problem about setting up a temperature module lol
[04:51] <jonesn420> never messed with it
[04:51] <jonesn420> but i know a FAIR bit ammount of networking.
[04:51] <bluesnow> erncic: I did put a space between com and 80, but it still returns could not resolve google.com/80
[04:51] <jonesn420> see you on the forums maybe
[04:52] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay, thanks.
[04:52] <jonesn420> yeah ull just get the best exposure there on ubuntuforums.com
[04:52] <jonesn420> later
[04:53] <erncic> bluesnow: you can ping, but not resolve?
[04:53] <bluesnow> erncic: Yes. Pinging <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> (google's DNS server) works fine.
[04:53] <bluesnow> erncic: Apparently, the VPN I connected to yesterday messes with the routing table (and maybe other network stuff?), but I've tried resetting everything.
[04:53] <bluesnow> Still no networking though..
[04:55] <erncic> bluesnow: what does route get <IP_ADDRESS> give you?
[04:56] <Noskcaj> erncic, isn't that google's dns?
[04:56] <erncic> yes, just wanting to know what route it would take to get there… due to a possible vpn twist.
[04:57] <drecute> Hi, I'm trying to install Adobe AIR SDK 2.6 on oneiric but can't find libgtk-x11-2.0
[04:57] <bluesnow> ernic: Now when I try to telnet google.com 80 it just hangs.
[04:57] <bluesnow> I can still ping DNS servers though.
[04:58] <erncic> bluesnow: that is good…. give it GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 followed by an empty line
[04:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back. I need to close the internet on this computer while I test.
[04:59] <szx> why does Software Updater always show changelogs for me?
[04:59] <erncic> bluesnow: you should get html back
[04:59] <szx> I have eto press q to continue updates
[05:00] <pinguine> i'm using gnome fallback mode, in system settings, brightness and lock, "turn off when inactive for:" only allows max of 1 hour. How do I increase this to a larger time?
[05:02] <bluesnow> erncic: GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 also hangs.
[05:02] <erncic> bluesnow: you gave it an empty line after the above?
[05:03] <bluesnow> erncic: How do I give it an empty line?
[05:03] <erncic> bluesnow: hit enter twice
[05:03] <bluesnow> erncic: Hitting enter the first time runs the command though?
[05:03] <erncic> no, it is waiting for the empty line.
[05:04] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back.
[05:04] <levi> Can someone help me I am kinda new to ubuntu and I am trying to install drivers for my Nvidia GeForce GT 430 and need help finding the right drivers
[05:05] <somsip> levi: just install nvidia-current
[05:06] <levi> ok thanks ill give it a try
[05:06] <bluesnow> erncic:  It's still hanging.
[05:07] <erncic> bluesnow: lets go more basic. does 'dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com' give you a good lookup?
[05:08] <ouyes> HOW to stop the screen saving when you are playing a movie?
[05:09] <doctorly> Is there any way to rollback before an upate?
[05:09] <doctorly> update*
[05:10] <bluesnow> erncic: It's still hanging.
[05:10] <somsip> doctorly: before an update? What are you wanting to do?
[05:11] <erncic> bluesnow: sorry. that was not supposed to go into the telnet session. It is just a command by itself.
[05:11] <doctorly> somsip: everytime I update my system I lose my wireless
[05:12] <somsip> doctorly: you want for your wireless drivers not to be updated?
[05:12] <doctorly> yeah
[05:12] <somsip> !pinning | doctorly
[05:12] <bluesnow> erncic: It's still hanging
[05:12] <somsip> doctorly: though you may have to experiment to find out exactly what packages you need to pin. If it's just the drivers, it's going to be quite easy
[05:12] <doctorly> somsip: this isnt the system
[05:13] <somsip> doctorly: that sentence makes no sensde
[05:13] <somsip> *sense
[05:13] <doctorly> somsip: how do I find the packages.
[05:13] <somsip> doctorly: what wifi card do you use?
[05:13] <doctorly> give me one sec
[05:13] <erncic> bluesnow: it is hanging? It should time out after 10 secs or so, not completely hang
[05:14] <doctorly> somsip: im opening the info now, it might take a little bit because it is a netbook
[05:15] <bluesnow> erncic: I'll try again.
[05:16] <doctorly> somsip: It looks like its a: Broadcom corporation: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[05:19] <somsip> doctorly: I know nothing about Broadcom wifi so you may need to research this more. command 'dpkg --get-selections | grep {packagename}' will tell you if you have a package installed. Packages that might be installed for BCM4312 include some here, but you may need to look for more http://askubuntu.com/questions/33855/how-do-i-get-a-broadcom-bcm4312-wireless-card-to-work
[05:24] <smacktalk> what's the best rdt ap for ubuntu?
[05:24] <bluesnow> erncic: After a minute or so, it says 'Cant connect to HTTP:80 (Bad hostname)
[05:25] <root> hoi
[05:25] <MacLaddy> Wow, there are a lot of people here.
[05:25] <smacktalk> rdp remote desktop
[05:25] <MacLaddy> Anyone willing to offer some advice on HDD Partition for install? I have a couple of questions.
[05:25] <bluesnow> erncic: After that, it says 'LWP:Protocol::http::Socket: Bad hostname 'HTTP' at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/protocol/http.pm
[05:25] <somsip> smacktalk: client or server?
[05:25] <somsip> !ask | MacLaddy
[05:25] <erncic> bluesnow: hmm. that makes no sense. It is a straight dns lookup.
[05:26] <smacktalk> client
[05:26] <somsip> smacktalk: I have used remmina. it worked ok
[05:26] <bluesnow> erncic: Any idea what the second part means?
[05:27] <bluesnow> Says "LWP: Protocol::http::Socket: Bad hostname 'HTTP' at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/protocol/http.pm'
[05:27] <MacLaddy> I have Windows Vista on a 1TB HDD. I just purchased a second 1TB HDD. I would like to Install Ubuntu. Should I park it next to Vista on the same HDD, or on the second HDD?
[05:27] <erncic> bluesnow: no, I don't know how perl got involved at all.
[05:28] <bluesnow> erncic: Hmm :( Whatever VPN I connected to yesterday must have really messed with my networking.
[05:28] <erncic> bluesnow: I got to tell you, I am at a loss now with that showing up.
[05:28] <somsip> MacLaddy: if your Vista partition fills the drive, maybe easier to put ubuntu on 1TB. Though it's nothing but preference and how much fiddling about you need to do to set it up how you want it
[05:28] <bluesnow> erncic: This is strange because other people in my office have connected to the same VPN without this much trouble.
[05:28] <smacktalk> somsip I don't like remina...doesn't work that great
[05:28] <bluesnow> erncic: They said the VPN messed with their routing tables, but it was fine after disconnecting and restarting.
[05:28] <somsip> smacktalk: ok
[05:29] <bluesnow> I seem to have tried everything though.
[05:29] <erncic> bluesnow: you can do a 'route flush' to clear the routing tables, but that does not take into account a dig failure like that.
[05:30] <bluesnow> erncic: route flush returns flushing 'inet' routing table not supported.
[05:30] <MacLaddy> Thank you, somsip. Second question. I would like to make a small partition next on the same HDD as Ubuntu just for playing with other versions. Triple boot. If I do this, can Ubuntu and the second Linux OS share programs, or must they each have their own?
[05:31] <bluesnow> erncic: It took about a minute before the GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 returned 'Can't connect to HTTP:80 (bad hostname)'
[05:31] <erncic> bluesnow: what does just 'route' return…. it should be your default gateway unless you are running something more complex on this box.
[05:31] <somsip> MacLaddy: separate programs. they can share some data (media) but you're probably asking if you try to share program data (config files, etc). File syatem layouts can vary from distro to distro and different package versions too
[05:31] <somsip> *asking too much
[05:32] <bluesnow> erncic: It returns Kernel IP Routing Table, and routing table headers below that. The table is completely empty.
[05:32] <MacLaddy> Thanks somsip.
[05:32] <somsip> MacLaddy: np
[05:32] <doctorly> is it possible to rollback my kernel to the previous kernel??
[05:33] <erncic> bluesnow: no default route at all?
[05:33] <bluesnow> erncic: No, I don't see any.
[05:33] <bluesnow> Just Kernel IP Routing Table, routing table headers below that, and nothing else.
[05:33] <bluesnow> The headers are like 'Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface'
[05:34] <erncic> bluesnow: ok, are you using a  dynamic or static ip?
[05:34] <bluesnow> erncic: Dynamic
[05:34] <somsip> doctorly: temporarily or permanent?
[05:35] <bluesnow> erncic: The routers at my home/office assign my laptop IP addresses, I think.
[05:35] <doctorly> somsip: from what I have found, it looks like my problem is with the newest kernel and the drivers
[05:35] <doctorly> somsip: so I guess permenent
[05:37] <somsip> doctorly: what version of ubuntu?
[05:37] <erncic> bluesnow: ok, 'sudo route add default via x.x.x.x' , x.x.x.x being whatever your default gateway should be.
[05:37] <doctorly> somsip: 12.10
[05:38] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back while I try that.
[05:39] <Petaz> win8 is a trojan for the feds
[05:39] <somsip> doctorly: sorry - I'm finding nothing obvious that might help you. You might have to look around or try later
[05:40] <doctorly> somsip: its alright, I will keep researching
[05:42] <ouyes> do you know where is the deb package, when you install some applications via ubuntu software center?
[05:42] <somsip> doctorly: it may be as simple as uninstalling the current kernel, grabbing the .deb for the old one, and sudo dpkg -i kernel*.deb to get the initrd links updated
[05:43] <somsip> ouyes: /var/cache/apt/archives maybe?
[05:44] <joekoocc1_> Can anyone help me? My computer connected to web is still using cable. there is no problem running on window using wireless, but not on ubuntu. Why? and how to resolve this? Thanks.
[05:46] <aeon-ltd> joekoocc1_: you might need drivers
[05:46] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, that added the route to my kernel IP routing table, but I still can't connect to anything
[05:46] <bluesnow> erncic: Is there another routing table somewhere else in ubuntu that might have been messed with?
[05:47] <erncic> bluesnow: not that I am aware of.
[05:48] <bluesnow> erncic: I wonder if I need to add other routes to the routing table..
[05:48] <erncic> bluesnow: firewall?
[05:48] <bluesnow> erncic: Don't have a firewall
[05:49] <bluesnow> erncic: By default gateway, you meant the gateway for my internet connection, right?
[05:49] <erncic> bluesnow: yes. 'iptables -L -n | less'
[05:50] <bluesnow> erncic: That gives chain INPUT (policy accept) chain forward policy accept chain output policy accept END
[05:51] <bluesnow> But the target, proc opt source, and destination are all empty
[05:51] <bluesnow> They're empty for INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT
[05:51] <erncic> bluesnow: accepts on all is ok, does not look like a problem there.
[05:52] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, but the target, proc opt source, and destination columns are all empty.
[05:52] <bluesnow> That might be a problem?
[05:53] <erncic> bluesnow: the policy assigned on all is accept, meaning everything is accepted- an empty firewall that accepts all packets.
[05:53] <bluesnow> erncic: Ah, I see.
[05:53] <erncic> bluesnow: scratching my head .....
[05:54] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah :(
[05:54] <bluesnow> erncic: I just heard that the VPN's security messes with routing tables.
[05:54] <bluesnow> But we seem to have dealt with that
[05:55] <erncic> bluesnow: yeah we did. the table seems good, no firewall rule problems, pinging works, no dns, no web. dig still fails right?
[05:57] <bluesnow> erncic: dig still fails. I can ping DNS servers, like <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:57] <bluesnow> erncic: well, I was able to ping DNS servers before we fixed the routing table.
[05:58] <erncic> bluesnow: cannot ping now?
[05:58] <bluesnow> erncic: I can still ping DNS servers.
[05:59] <erncic> bluesnow: ok, I thought we had moved backwards.
[05:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Thankfully not.
[05:59] <erncic> bluesnow: exactly.
[06:00] <bluesnow> erncic: Wait, my routing table now shows in the first column
[06:00] <bluesnow> Destination: default Gateway: my laptop name Genmask: <IP_ADDRESS> Flags: UG ..
[06:00] <bluesnow> Not sure why it's showing 'my laptop name' under Gateway
[06:01] <erncic> bluesnow: your laptop name would be wrong…
[06:01] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, I think so.
[06:02] <bluesnow> erncic: sudo route add default via x.x.x.x returns Usage: ...
[06:02] <bluesnow> So I guess that didn't work?
[06:02] <bluesnow> It should return something else on success, right?
[06:04] <erncic> bluesnow: yes, we want route add default gw x.x.x.x
[06:04] <bluesnow> Just tried, 'sudo ip route add default via x.x.x.x', and that returned RTNETLINK answers: file exists
[06:04] <bluesnow> erncic: That command returns 'SIOCADDRT: File exists'
[06:06] <erncic> bluesnow: you have a default route. 'route del default' and then route add default gw x.x.x.x
[06:06] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back while I try the internet.
[06:07] <stinktoad> hello...i have a small question
[06:08] <stinktoad> my wired connection does not read anything..it says device not managed
[06:08] <stinktoad> how can I get it to show that I am connected
[06:10] <stinktoad> or how can I get it to recognize my ethernet connection
[06:10] <stinktoad> anyone?
[06:10] <bluesnow> erncic: Doing sudo route add default gw x.x.x.x is adding my computer's name under 'Gateway' in the 'default' row
[06:11] <bluesnow> I'm getting x.x.x.x from Edit connections -> wireless -> my connection -> IPv4 Settings -> Gateway
[06:11] <bluesnow> So I'm not sure why it adds my computer's name under gateway..
[06:12] <erncic> bluesnow: it should not be your laptop name, it should be the gateway address or the gateway's name…
[06:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, but it keeps adding my laptop's name.
[06:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Maybe the VPN I connected to did that as a hack?
[06:13] <bluesnow> :(
[06:13] <erncic> bluesnow: if it is your laptop name, all external requests should loop back to yourself and not go anywhere…. kind of like you are having, but your pings would die too, I would expect.
[06:14] <bluesnow> ernic: Hmm, not sure. My pings are working..
[06:15] <felipe_Brz> i'm running 11.04 and I would like to stop the window switcher (alt+tab) from grouping similar windows (like many terminal instances) under one group... anyone know how to do that?
[06:15] <Panda000> Hey hab nen kleines Problem. Bin noch relativ neu in Linux und jetzt hat sich bei meinem einen Acc der Bildschirm "aufgehangen" nach neustart / abmelden öffnet sich immer die alte Sitzung und ich kann die Programme weder schließen noch irgendwo schreiben ... hab dann im Terminal nen neuen acc erstellt und da läuft auch alles einwandfrei ..
[06:15] <erncic> Bluesnow: I am thinking the default gateway is wrong, but I don't have any idea what it should be.
[06:19] <bluesnow> erncic: It should be my router's IP address, right?
[06:19] <erncic> !de
[06:19] <erncic> bluesnow: yes.
[06:19] <bluesnow> Which seems to be what I'm trying to do, except it keeps adding my computer's name
[06:20] <anand> woaaaahhh
[06:22] <stinktoad> my wired connection does not read anything..it says device not managed
[06:22] <anand> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
[06:22] <stinktoad> how can I get it to recognize my ethernet connection
[06:23] <erncic> bluesnow: lets try and grab a new lease from dns and see if we can get a good gateway from dhcp… should have started here, but …. sudo dhclient -r
[06:23] <erncic> dns=dhcp
[06:24] <stinktoad> erncic, could you help me with this when you get a chance?
[06:24] <bluesnow> erncic: What do I do after sudo dhclient -r? The command doesn't return anything.
[06:24] <erncic> stinktoad: dynamic or static ip?
[06:24] <stinktoad> I would like to set it up as static
[06:24] <erncic> bluesnow: that should have released your current ip lease and grabbed a new one. check your routes
[06:25] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back.
[06:25] <stinktoad> i run ifcong in terminal
[06:25] <stinktoad> and get my eth0
[06:25] <erncic> stinktoad: I do not think the interface will be "managed" if it is static.
[06:25] <stinktoad> oh..
[06:26] <stinktoad> well I guess as long as I have connection it works
[06:27] <stinktoad> so I shouldnt worry about it I take it
[06:27] <stinktoad> but I am not runnin static right now
[06:27] <voxcroix> hi.
[06:28] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, I did that. My routing table shows one row, with
[06:28] <bluesnow> Destination: <IP_ADDRESS>, Gateway: *, Genmask: <IP_ADDRESS>, Flags: U, Metric: 0, Ref: 0, Use: 0, Iface: eth0
[06:28] <stinktoad> well thanks erncic ..
[06:28] <bluesnow> That's the only row in my routing table.
[06:29] <erncic> bluesnow: what works and what does not...
[06:29] <voxcroix> hi.
[06:29] <erncic> stinktoad: sorry, the gui end is not my strength.
[06:29] <bluesnow> erncic: Be right back, I'll test again.
[06:32] <bluesnow> erncic: Same situation still. ping works, pinging DNS works, no browser, no telnet, no GET /index.html
[06:33] <bluesnow> erncic: I still don't have a default route to my gateway though.
[06:33] <erncic> bluesnow: at a loss.
[06:34] <bluesnow> erncic: The lack of a default route to my gateway would cause problems, right?
[06:36] <ouyes> Is it possible to disable the screen saver when you are playing a movie???
[06:36] <erncic> bluesnow: I would have thought so before tonight, but the pinging of <IP_ADDRESS> tells us that somehow, those packets are being routed out of your network and are getting back in. how and via what route ??? does a 'traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>' a) work and b) give up your gateway ip...
[06:36] <bluesnow> erncic: Let me try that.
[06:41] <bluesnow> erncic: Unfortunately I don't have traceroute installed..
[06:41] <bluesnow> erncic: Ping <IP_ADDRESS> is definitely working.
[06:41] <erncic> bluesnow: the computer you are on now… same network?
[06:42] <bluesnow> erncic: well ping is working from both computers.
[06:42] <bluesnow> And they're going to the same gateway (same network)
[06:43] <erncic> bluesnow: was wondering what it was showing for the gateway.
[06:43] <erncic> bluesnow: got it
[06:43] <smilejayark> ...
[06:43] <bluesnow> erncic: I just ran traceroute <IP_ADDRESS> on the computer I'm on. How do I find the gateway it's going through?
[06:44] <jonesn420> hi
[06:44] <jonesn420> using lubuntu, mouse pointer dissapeared and in middle of video conversion which takes an hour. anyone know if there is a way to get it back instead of restarting after conversion done?
[06:44] <smilejayark> hi, there??
[06:44] <jonesn420> it happened after went idle
[06:45] <erncic> bluesnow: first hop is the default
[06:45] <jonesn420> bluesnow, did u find a fix
[06:45] <bluesnow> erncic Next to '1', it says <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:45] <erncic> bluesnow: (or it should be)
[06:45] <bluesnow> <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP I was trying to add as the gateway for default, but it kept adding my laptop's name
[06:46] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Nope, still trying to fix it.
[06:46] <jonesn420> ok i got a prob right now myself lol mouse dissapeared in middle of working stuff
[06:46] <jonesn420> did u post on the forums yet bluesnow
[06:47] <erncic> bluesnow: hmmm. head scratcher for sure.
[06:47] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Not yet.
[06:47] <lcabreza> question: anybody has a way to use RhEL's plytmouth or boot screen ? instead of the default on ubuntu ?
[06:47] <erncic> bluesnow: post it to the forum….. that is your best bet.
[06:48] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah. Any idea why adding <IP_ADDRESS> as the default gw would result in my laptop's name?
[06:48] <bluesnow> That doesn't seem to make any sense at all.
[06:49] <erncic> bluesnow: the only thing I can think of is a) a dns entry for <IP_ADDRESS> with your laptop's name, b) an ip conflict with the default gateway (not likely) …
[06:50] <erncic> bluesnow: an /etc/hosts entry.
[06:50] <bluesnow> let me check that
[06:50] <jim_> hi, any way to get youtube vids to play in firefox? fresh 12.04 install, and pretty new to linux
[06:51] <bluesnow> erncic: Looks like the VPN I connected to modified that file.
[06:51] <zombifier> jim_ : Did you install Flash? It's part of the restricted-extras
[06:51] <erncic> bluesnow:… meaning ….
[06:51] <bluesnow> erncic: I have, BEGIN hosts added by Network Connect <IP_ADDRESS> ework-atl.turner.com
[06:51] <bluesnow> well, I'm not sure what else is supposed to be in that file
[06:51] <bluesnow> I've never opened that file before
[06:51] <Phaba> will changing /proc/sys/kernal/randomize_va_space from 1 to 0 make me more vulnerable to explits?
[06:51] <jim_> not directly, but checked the 3rd party box when I installed - which version should I install?
[06:51] <Phaba> exploits*
[06:52] <Phaba> jim_,  chrome has a built in flash player i think
[06:53] <jim_> it's for an old neighbor who uses firefox, don't want to add chrome to the confusion
[06:53] <Phaba> jim_, ithink you can download it through the software center
[06:54] <OerHeks> jim_, install ubuntu restricted extras for flash, openjdk and codecs
[06:54] <erncic> bluesnow: it usually has an entry for <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and if static ip, a second line with the static ip to the hostname map, and then some ipv6 stuff below that. It can contain other stuff if needed, but usually the first two lines are what I was interested in.
[06:54] <jim_> are those restricted extras in a single package?
[06:54] <OerHeks> !restricted
[06:54] <OerHeks> jim_, yes, one metapackage to get them all
[06:55] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah it has <IP_ADDRESS> localhost, and <IP_ADDRESS> my_computer_name
[06:55] <erncic> bluesnow: those are expected and not a problem.
[06:55] <jim_> not great at ubuntu yet - how would I get that metapackage, please?
[06:55] <bluesnow> my /etc/resolv.conf also has search turner.com and nameserver x.x.x.x and nameserver x.x.x.x
[06:55] <bluesnow> Not sure if the 'search turner.com' should be there
[06:56] <OerHeks> jim_, open softwarecentre, and typ " restricted "
[06:56] <jim_> ah, found it - tyty
[06:57] <erncic> bluesnow: that file is not your problem. the dig command we used 'dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com', the @<IP_ADDRESS> forced the nameserver, ignoring /etc/resolv.conf.
[06:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Right. The VPN seems to have edited quite a few of my networking related files though.
[06:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Wait, you didn't tell me to run dig earlier.
[06:59] <bluesnow> Let me try that.
[07:01] <jim_> was not prompted for a system restart after installing restricted extras, but still no youtube vids - could a restart help?
[07:01] <bluesnow> erncic: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com does work
[07:01] <OerHeks> jim_, yes, restart could help, at least restart your browser
[07:01] <bluesnow> erncic: It returns (1 server found) and an Answer Section with google.com IN A x.x.x.x
[07:01] <bluesnow> So dig is working.
[07:01] <bluesnow> I'm not sure what that means though.
[07:02] <jim_> had already restarted browser, so system next - let's hope I don't end up back here. thanks again
[07:02] <erncic> bluesnow: good to know. means dns through a forced dns server is working. does 'dig google.com' fail?
[07:02] <cache_za> for flash i just installed flashplugin-installer
[07:03] <bluesnow> erncic: Let me try.
[07:04] <xpistos> Hello all.
[07:04] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, dig google.com fails. It times out.
[07:05] <bluesnow> erncic: I think they edited my etc/resolv.conf file, which might be the problem (?)
[07:05] <xpistos> Would a bad ethernet cable cause firefox and chrome to be unable to connect to anywebsite but still be able to ping the same website?
[07:05] <erncic> bluesnow: now, those /etc/resolv.conf entries become important… you got it.
[07:05] <ikonia> xpistos: no
[07:05] <bluesnow> erncic: /etc/resolv.conf should be DNS server addresses, right?
[07:05] <Phaba> will changing /proc/sys/kernal/randomize_va_space from 1 to 0 make me more vulnerable to exploits?
[07:06] <xpistos> Ok, I am lost then. My wife's computer is hard connected to the router the same as my home server but her computer goes through days where it will not connect
[07:06] <Phaba> xpistos, sounds more like a dns issue
[07:06] <ikonia> doesn't sound like dns
[07:06] <erncic> bluesnow: technically for a dhcp assigned address that file should say "don't edit this file", but it has been edited.
[07:06] <ikonia> as the same website can be pinged
[07:07] <Phaba> ikonia, depends if he's pinging the ip of the website
[07:07] <ikonia> are your browsers set wrongly to use a proxy
[07:07] <ikonia> Phaba: he said website, he didn't say ip
[07:07] <erncic> bluesnow: so lets just fix the dns extras to something we know works …. <IP_ADDRESS> etc
[07:07] <xpistos> uh I don't think so but I will check
[07:07] <ikonia> I don't suggest randomly changing your dns servers
[07:08] <erncic> bluesnow: comment out the name servers added by the vpn first.
[07:08] <ikonia> and /etc/resolv.conf is not where you need to set the dns servers, with the ubuntu dnsmasq setup
[07:08] <xpistos> okay. here box is dhcp
[07:08] <xpistos> with an reserved address on the router
[07:08] <ikonia> xpistos: dynampic/static ip doesn't matter
[07:08] <erncic> bluesnow: and try the dig command without adding anything.
[07:08] <xpistos> i am checking dns vs ip now
[07:09] <ikonia> xpistos: so when you "ping" the website are you pinging the url or ip
[07:09] <xpistos> in her browswer if I put the router ip it won't come up
[07:09] <bluesnow> erncic: okay, trying now.
[07:09] <ikonia> xpistos: answer the question
[07:09] <xpistos> I was checking
[07:09] <xpistos> I put the url and it pings
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: answer the question
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: what url are you pinging
[07:10] <xpistos> right now google.com
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: what ip does it resolve to
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: (you should see it in theping output)
[07:10] <xpistos> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:11] <ikonia> xpistos: ok, so that loks valid
[07:11] <ikonia> "looks"
[07:12] <ikonia> xpistos: what IP address are you putting in the browser to try to get to the router
[07:12] <xpistos> I have set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:12] <xpistos> and I can ssh into her computer from my laptop
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: It works!
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Had to add DNS servers to my /etc/resolv.conf file
[07:13] <bluesnow> Whew
[07:13] <ikonia> xpistos: can you please show me the output of netstat -rn
[07:13] <ikonia> xpistos: use a pastebin
[07:13] <xpistos> sure. one sec
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Wow, I feel like I learned a lot. And that's a really scary VPN :(
[07:13] <asarch> An off-topic question: anyone in Germany?
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Thanks for all the help.
[07:14] <ikonia> asarch: if it's offtopic, don't post it
[07:14] <erncic> bluesnow: you are very welcome…. I am glad we learned along the way.
[07:14] <asarch> I know and I really sorry for that
[07:15] <xpistos> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/9X3KiiLZ
[07:15] <asarch> I just need to find someone in that country to mp him
[07:15] <ikonia> asarch: and yet you are still talking about it
[07:15] <jim_> hi again - still no luck playing youtube vids after installing restricted package
[07:15] <ikonia> xpistos: ok, that looks good, so it really suggests the browsers are trying to use a proxy
[07:15] <xpistos> Checking now
[07:16] <ikonia> (a proxy which doesn't exist)
[07:17] <jim_> any other ideas to get flash videos to work?
[07:17] <xpistos> ok for some reason chrome had use system proxy settings so I put it back to no proxy and restarted FF but now change
[07:18] <xpistos> I will look in the network to make sure there isn't a proxy somehere
[07:19] <xpistos> okay under network proxy the method is set to none
[07:21] <xpistos> and if it matters I am using opendns
[07:21] <xpistos> still nothing
[07:23] <asarch> Thank you :-)
[07:25] <xpistos> We both have a user on the computer which don't use mine but they are both doing the same
[07:28] <xpistos> Nope no proxy either
[07:32] <xpistos> ikonia: Basically firefox says the connection timed out if I let it sit
[07:34] <xpistos1> I tried testing the router for giggles. no change
[07:36] <Unifx> stupid question, have you tried going to tools then check the connections tab and make sure that it is on obtain ip automaticly
[07:37] <xpistos1> I have no idea here. The wireless connection from my laptop is fine. My homeserver has no problems and it is also hard connected
[07:38] <xpistos1> Unifx: Yes. I use address reservations on the router.
[07:39] <xpistos1> if I couldn't ping anything or if I couldn't ssh into her box I would say bad port, bad cable what have you but I can do those things but something is not allowing it to connect to the router
[07:39] <xpistos1> ???
[07:40] <xpistos1> and the router sees it in attached devices
[07:42] <Unifx> "into her box" is all i saw
[07:42] <xpistos1> Hell even my plex media manager works fine. There has to be something going on with the browser or somethign
[07:43] <Unifx> so you have checked the firefox proxy right
[07:43] <xpistos1> if I couldn't ping anything or if I couldn't ssh into her box I would say bad port, bad cable what have you but I can do those things but something is not allowing it to connect to the router
[07:43] <xpistos1> Unifx: yes, it is set to none
[07:43] <Unifx> and you can set up a sock proxy at all>
[07:44] <xpistos1> I am not sure how to do that so I generally don't try
[07:44] <xpistos1> I have used ssh tunnel before but that is only out of necessity and she doesn't need it on her box
[07:45] <Unifx> yeah you just need like putty on urs and to set firefox;s sock proxy but only reason i sugest that is to test firefox itself
[07:45] <A[D]minS> Good Morning Everybody.
[07:45] <aeon-ltd> guten morgen
[07:45] <Unifx> good evening
[07:45] <A[D]minS> I've plugged in my laptop 6GB Ram, however i'm running with 32-bit OS
[07:46] <A[D]minS> How i can force the system to utilize the full capacity of memory.
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> !pae
[07:46] <A[D]minS> aeon-ltd: thx ;)
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> you're welcome
[07:47] <A[D]minS> Linux egabi-Solutions 3.5.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 13 17:49:53 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:47] <A[D]minS> The generic default kernel already has PAE enabled.
[07:47] <xpistos1> Unifx: I can do that to check
[07:48] <xpistos1> is putty in the repos
[07:48] <Unifx> if not sudo apt-get install putty
[07:48] <xpistos1> I must have already installed t
[07:49] <xpistos1> so I guess I should putty to the server and use that as an ssh tunnel and then set firefox to use that as the proxy?
[07:49] <Unifx> yeah just open putty set the ip and port then the tunnel port
[07:50] <Unifx> then set firefox proxy as a sock ip of <IP_ADDRESS>:what ever port u set
[07:51] <xpistos1> destination should be home?
[07:52] <Unifx> yeah
[07:52] <Unifx> bounces off putty
[07:52] <A[D]minS> I love ubuntu :)
[07:53] <A[D]minS> have a good day/night everybody
[07:53] <xpistos1> ok the tunnel is up now let me set FF
[07:54] <Unifx> make sure you only set the sock port
[07:54] <xpistos1> well that is different. I don't think I have it set right cause right away it say proxy server is refrusion connections
[07:54] <Unifx> and ip
[07:54] <xpistos1> right
[07:55] <Unifx> um yeah that is wierd
[07:55] <xpistos1> okay so in ff i have socks host as home and port as same port in putty 4567
[07:55] <Unifx> yeah
[07:55] <xpistos1> let me recheck putty
[07:55] <Unifx> then save
[07:56] <xpistos1> in putty ssh tunnel
[07:56] <xpistos1> I set the source port as 4567
[07:57] <xpistos1> and destination as the server's ip but it says I have to save it as host.name:port so I add the port to the ip so its says <IP_ADDRESS>:4567
[07:58] <Unifx> heads up you shouldnt post that lol
[07:59] <Unifx> ok so when setting up the tunel
[07:59] <Unifx> dont use a servers ip
[07:59] <Unifx> use a port only and change it to dynamic
[07:59] <Unifx> then when you click add
[07:59] <Unifx> oit should look like
[07:59] <Unifx> D4567
[08:00] <FaeLLe> just wondering if anyone has a easy guide to get openswan running on Amazon EC2 using IPSec PSK
[08:00] <FaeLLe> the guides i found on google were giving me issues and i have no idea how to troubleshoot
[08:00] <FaeLLe> :/
[08:00] <xpistos1> it is internal
[08:02] <xpistos1> Well that worked
[08:03] <Unifx> cool
[08:03] <Unifx> so pretty much
[08:03] <Unifx> everything works accept your own fire fox with out a proxy
[08:03] <Unifx> so your pings work>
[08:03] <xpistos1> yes pings worked
[08:03] <Unifx> so your http is up
[08:04] <xpistos1> so now the next is how do I get it to work without the ssh tunnel
[08:04] <Unifx> and have you tried other browsers
[08:04] <agunghario> exit
[08:04] <xpistos1> not uet
[08:05] <xpistos1> she only wants to use firefox. I tell her to use chrome but she was gettig the same results
[08:05] <Unifx> yeah i only use ff
[08:05] <xpistos1> google works
[08:05] <xpistos1> I got tired of ff and the rapid release breaking stuff constantly
[08:05] <xpistos1> or chrome works now to
[08:05] <fedor> hi there, I am interested in knowing, why when i am copying files to my android-smartphone (via usb-cable) i am getting something that is corrupted, thus i am left without files needed, when I really need them.  Is it connected with the file system, or is it just that i am unlucky?
[08:06] <xpistos1> Unifx: LOL. Wierd. I killed the putty session
[08:06] <xpistos1> firefox does not work, but chrome is still working
[08:06] <DavidScherer> when I do `ssh user@host -p PORT` I keep getting the message "connection closed by IP". This is only happening on my Desktop (Ubuntu 12 LTS) but not on my Android phone, both using the same Internet connection. On the target VM, the connection is going through fine and there are no firewall issues, but it shows as though I am closing the connection.
[08:06] <xpistos1> I know chrome uses the network default
[08:06] <DavidScherer> Any ideas on how to fix this or what is even wrong?
[08:06] <mal10c> anyone know how to change the default desktop to fluxbox in ubuntu 12.10 via terminal?
[08:07] <xpistos1> turn off the proxy in FF and now it is working without putty session up too???
[08:08] <Unifx> :)
[08:08] <Unifx> so putty is closed
[08:08] <Unifx> and all working
[08:08] <xpistos1> yes
[08:08] <xpistos1> this is crazy
[08:08] <Unifx> yeah thought so
[08:08] <Unifx> some times it has a few bigs
[08:08] <DavidScherer> Oh, and it only seems to happen for one specific user. If I try with another_user@host I get a login prompt.
[08:09] <solitary1> woops
[08:09] <solitary1> dcd
[08:09] <solitary1> yeah sometimes theres a bug where you have to set a port then remove it
[08:13] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[08:14] <computer> need to get my videio card to work
[08:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:15] <cristian_c> I'm looking for files which contain info on the multimedia keys on gnome 2
[08:16] <cristian_c> I'm looking for info about commands executed from the multimedia keys
[08:16] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:17] <xpistos1> uni4dfx: well it is still doing messing up with the ssh tunnel
[08:17] <DavidScherer> Okay, doing ssh -vvv User@Host -p Port shows that right before the connection closes I see it debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/david/.ssh/id_rsa ::: debug3: send_pubkey_test ::: debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
[08:18] <DavidScherer> Then the connection closes.
[08:18] <xpistos1> uni4dfx: or without it rather
[08:22] <DavidScherer> :(
[08:22] <noregret> will deb packages for 10.04 work correctly on 12.04 ?
[08:22] <DavidScherer> noregret: Probably depends on the package?
[08:23] <noregret> DavidScherer: im looking for sphinx, http://sphinxsearch.com/downloads/release/
[08:24] <noregret> how can I know the versino of a package from apt-cache search ?
[08:26] <MrBar> hi
[08:27] <MrBar> how to see why some pkg installed?
[08:28] <noregret> MrBar: apt-cache pkgnames
[08:30] <MrBar> noregret : it only pkg listing
[08:32] <noregret> MrBar: rephrase your question
[08:34] <MrBar> i need to know for what reason (why) apt install some pkg, for example i need listing [pkg some-name: installed manualy, pkg foo: installed by depend of bar]
[08:37] <zantekk> MrBar: sudo apt-get install apt-rdepends
[08:37] <zantekk> after this: ex. apt-rdepeds foobar
[08:37] <zantekk> *apt-rdepends
[08:37] <MrBar> apt-rdepeds -r   generate long list
[08:38] <MrBar> how to find what pkg select it
[08:41] <MrBar> heh  in debian i get right answer: need a aptitude :)
[08:43] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[08:43] <computer> for 12.10
[08:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:51] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[08:51] <computer> for 12.10
[08:57] <rabbi1> is there any light weight app, which can show my recent mails(gmail etc...) and posts (fb, twitter, linkedin etc) in a single app? like pidgin for chat....
[08:57] <estrangedSoul> at the start screen
[08:58] <estrangedSoul> i lost my ubuntu pass
[08:58] <estrangedSoul> how can i retrieve it
[08:58] <zantekk> recovery console
[08:58] <zantekk> reboot and choose it in grub
[09:00] <estrangedSoul> I just have wubi
[09:00] <estrangedSoul> where is grub and how do i get to it
[09:01] <zantekk> when you boot, you can choose either starting windows or ubuntu
[09:01] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[09:01] <computer> for 12.10
[09:01] <zantekk> and there should also be someting like Ubuntu 12.10 - Recovery Console
[09:02] <zantekk> computer: lsusb xD
[09:02] <zantekk> computer: not in System Tools -> Device Manager?
[09:03] <computer> where do i first click to get there?
[09:03] <rabbi1> will gwibber be a good choice ?
[09:03] <computer> not use to this unity desktop
[09:04] <computer> i click dash oard and dont see it
[09:04] <zantekk> just start typing device
[09:04] <zantekk> and get rid of unity
[09:04] <zantekk> it's crap
[09:05] <computer> i type device manager and nothing shows
[09:05] <zantekk> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[09:05] <zantekk> reboot and choose Gnome Classic at your login window
[09:06] <computer> will gnome work with compiz?
[09:06] <zantekk> yes of couse
[09:06] <zantekk> *course
[09:06] <computer> k
[09:06] <computer> :)
[09:06] <computer> thnx
[09:06] <rabbi1> I never liked Unity
[09:07] <zantekk> I hate it^^ it's for touch devices..
[09:07] <computer> seems like they killed ubuntu with this unity crap
[09:08] <rabbi1> tried to be too smart. but spoiled in my opinion.. I also think it can be made better
[09:08] <zantekk> kust use xfce with avant-window-navigator -> perfect
[09:08] <zantekk> *just
[09:08] <computer> should at least come with the opstion to use gnome by default
[09:09] <computer> xfce dont work well with compiz
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> how can i retrieve it
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> my password to ubuntu
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> ?
[09:09] <zantekk> can't see any problems
[09:09] <computer> !password
[09:09] <rabbi1> computer: you can install gnome and make it default..
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> gnome?
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> what about user name?
[09:09] <computer> boot in recovery mode
[09:10] <estrangedSoul> how?
[09:10] <zantekk> estrangedSoul: I wrote it to you some lines ago
[09:10] <computer> !user
[09:11] <subhadeep> my left side bar is not coming up in Cairo unity panel mode...can anybody help me
[09:11] <zantekk> don't use unity
[09:11] <Name141-> if the keyboard is detected wrong in install, is that an easy fix or a reinstall easier fix fix ?
[09:14] <ct529> hi! After the last kernel update my boot time has increased of approx 10s.
[09:14] <ct529> Any changes that could justify it?
[09:15] <zantekk> ct529: go back to the older one?
[09:15] <ct529> zantekk: sorry?
[09:16] <zantekk> ct529: if the newer kernel seems to be slower on your system, just switch back
[09:16] <ct529> zantekk: I would rather udnerstand what is wrong
[09:17] <zantekk> can find anything in the logfiles?
[09:18] <ct529> everything seems to be taking a little bit more, from dmesg
[09:20] <computer> i still cant see device manager anywhere?! what the hell?!
[09:20] <zantekk> just try booting the older kernel and compare them, if the newer is really that slower, go back to the older one
[09:21] <zantekk> computer: for what? what do you want to do?
[09:21] <computer> video card
[09:21] <computer> driver
[09:21] <zantekk> nvidia?
[09:21] <computer> yeah
[09:22] <zantekk> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:22] <zantekk> reboot, done
[09:22] <niktto> what is best / advised tool to set up ubuntu / debian repository? Still reprepro?
[09:22] <computer> does ubuntu not come with device manager anymore?
[09:22] <zantekk> dunno, I'm not using 12.10 atm
[09:22] <ct529> zantekk: that is what I have already done of course, but it is only slower at boot
[09:23] <zantekk> computer: but what for? terminal is much faster^^
[09:24] <computer> yeah if i knew all these commands, maybe
[09:25] <zantekk> learning by doing ;)
[09:25] <computer> thnx though
[09:25] <zantekk> worked?
[09:25] <ct529> computer: does muon not show you the nvidia driver?
[09:26] <computer> its downloading
[09:26] <zantekk> perfect
[09:26] <computer> muon?
[09:27] <computer> nvidia-current is downloading
[09:27] <computer> 66%
[09:27] <ct529> computer: or synaptica
[09:27] <ct529> which package manager are you using?
[09:29] <computer> seems only "ubuntu software center" and not synaptica
[09:29] <computer> that also sucks
[09:29] <micjan02> i have a serial logger that i connect to via socat. one end (serial logger) is tcp, the other is pty. how can i send sysrq ("^a f" in minicom, "^a b" in screen) over such setup?
[09:30] <ct529> computer: I think you can install synaptica from the software centre, and that would be able to show you all the drivers
[09:30] <computer> yeap
[09:30] <computer> brb
[09:39] <Guest96298> does anybody know where does cups gets fonts to be embedded from?
[09:40] <rabbi1> installed gwibber for first time, but it doesn't show any comment at all... what could be the issue?
[09:41] <computer> k now its asking me to run nvidia-xconfig as root? how do i do that?
[09:43] <eddmabs> quit
[09:43] <computer> k now its asking me to run nvidia-xconfig as root? how do i do that?
[09:44] <computer> sudo -s ?
[09:44] <joey8> computer→ to run programs as root prefix your command phrase with sudo
[09:45] <joey8> ie sudo plink -test
[09:45] <computer> i tried but i get the same error msg
[09:45] <david_> Can anyone help me with an SSH issue?
[09:45] <computer> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:46] <computer> i tried sudo nvidia-xconfig but keep getting the same msg
[09:47] <david_> computer: You have installed the driver, no
[09:47] <david_> ?
[09:47] <computer> i guess
[09:48] <david_> Er....
[09:48] <computer> yeah i did
[09:50] <Jester_> Morning everyone!
[09:50] <david_> Maybe ask nvidia?
[09:50] <david_> Morning.
[09:51] <david_> My SSH client is (after sending a pub key packet) closing the connection, or perhaps the server is closing the connection.
[09:52] <david_> The SSH server logs say that I'm closing the connection.
[09:52] <david_> It only happens on my desktop, not on my phone.
[09:52] <david_> Both use the same internet connection.
[09:53] <david_> Ideas? I've been searching forever.
[09:54] <joey8> david_→ is the ssh server on the same machine as you are ssh-logging in from
[09:54] <david_> No, it's our production machine.
[09:55] <sons_of_s> hi all
[09:55] <sons_of_s> i'm spanish
[09:55] <david_> joey8: I recently set up RSA keys for Bitbucket, would that have an effect?
[09:55] <sons_of_s> algun español aqui?
[09:55] <sons_of_s> [david_] you spanish?
[09:56] <sons_of_s> [david_] in server people spanish o no?
[09:56] <david_> sons_of_s: Hablo espanol muy paquito.
[09:56] <sons_of_s> [david_] yo soy nuevo en este server
[09:56] <david_> Forgive me for butchering a simple sentence in your language. :S
[09:56] <sons_of_s> LOL xDD i'm not understand
[09:57] <sons_of_s> tendre que aprender ingles por huevos....
[09:57] <david_> Yo tambien
[09:57] <sons_of_s> [david_] tu español xD
[09:58] <david_> Nein, abber mein Deutsch ist gut, oder  besser als mein Spansih.
[09:58] <sons_of_s> ostias
[09:58] <sons_of_s> [david_] you german?
[09:58] <sons_of_s> [david_] in spanish mucha fiesta, mucha beer xDDDD
[09:58] <Myrtti> !es | sons_of_s
[09:59] <david_> 3rd generation German American.
[09:59] <sons_of_s> [ubottu] okkk thanks
[09:59] <guang_> #j /os
[09:59] <sons_of_satan> [ubottu] tu eres español?
[10:00] <david_> Anyway...
[10:00] <john00102> asdasd
[10:00] <john00102> as
[10:00] <john00102> d
[10:00] <john00102> sad
[10:00] <john00102> as
[10:00] <john00102> das
[10:00] <FloodBot1> john00102: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <Myrtti> sons_of_satan: it is a robot program, not human
[10:01] <sons_of_satan> LOL
[10:01] <sons_of_satan> okkk
[10:01] <cousteau> `sudo` is not safe for graphics applications and `gksudo` is.  Is `sudo -H` safe as well?
[10:01] <sons_of_satan> [Myrtti] thanks
[10:01] <david_> joey8: So no, different, remote server. Would a ssh -vvv help?
[10:02] <cousteau> for what I could understand, the problem with sudo is that it doesn't change $HOME to /root, thus messing the user config files
[10:02] <cousteau> however `sudo -H` exports HOME=/root
[10:02] <thermion> good to know...
[10:02] <david_> cousteau: What about just su to root until you're done? I mean, it's an extra step...but?
[10:03] <david_> cousteau: Ahhh, very good to know indeed. :)
[10:03] <cousteau> su root is safe as well?  (`sudo su` I guess)
[10:03] <Myrtti> not really
[10:03] <david_> I didn't say it was safe.
[10:04] <david_> I'm just under the impression when you su a user $home changes.
[10:04] <cousteau> I mean safe regarding $HOME
[10:04] <cousteau> as in "as safe as gksudo"
[10:04] <david_> I don't know what gksudo is, so I'm pleading the 5th here.
[10:04] <joekoocc1_> how to control the usb port as in the serial port & parallel port in ubuntu?
[10:04] <david_> magic.
[10:04] <david_> :P
[10:05] <mobhero> hi, how to install tomcat7 on ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
[10:05] <mobhero> pls help on this
[10:05] <david_> I wish magic could fix my SSH, I'd have phoned the neighborhood weirdo that does raindances.
[10:05] <Myrtti> cousteau, david_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo explains some good and bad options
[10:06] <cousteau> joekoocc1_, not sure what you mean, but when you plug an FTDI USB device, a /dev/ttyUSB* or /dev/ttyACM* device will appear
[10:06] <david_> mobhero: I think you should ask tomcat people, or browse the tomcat docs, or maybe check to see if Apt or Yum or whatever your fav PKG manager has it.
[10:06] <cousteau> my idea was to alias sudo to `sudo -H` by default.
[10:07] <guestLinx> which is he best tool for Linux to convert video file to  AVI DIVX ?
[10:07] <david_> cousteau: That may not be a good idea.
[10:07] <cousteau> I proposed that idea to brainstorm and it was blatantly rejected
[10:07] <david_> You usually only need sudo to do commands that require elevated permissions is certain areas.
[10:08] <cousteau> guestLinx, are you aware of the fuzziness of the word "best"?
[10:08] <guestLinx> cousteau: easiest and more efficient
[10:08] <david_> So if you're installing something as a User BOB, with sudo, instead of stuff going into BOB's home directory, it'll go to root.
[10:09] <cousteau> guestLinx,  some will suggest you ffmpeg, or winff, or mencoder, or avidemux, or another video editor
[10:09] <guestLinx> ok
[10:09] <cousteau> david_, shouldn't it?
[10:09] <david_> guestLinx: Your best option is to Google search, a bunch of different blog entries and stuff will pop up arguing the features and benefits of several in each post.
[10:09] <david_> The "Best" is the one that has everything you need.
[10:09] <cousteau> "easiest" is also a fuzzy word
[10:10] <david_> cousteau: Shouldn't what?
[10:10] <vitimiti> o/
[10:10] <cousteau> and it sometimes conflict with "most efficient"
[10:10] <cousteau> david_, put stuff on /root rather than ~user
[10:10] <david_> Depends.
[10:11] <cousteau> also, if it puts stuff on ~user it will do so with root as owner
[10:11] <cousteau> I'm not sure, but I think everything on ~user should belong to user
[10:11] <david_> If I'm writing an install script, good practice is to have the app you're installing be ran as a non-system, non-root user. The files should also be owned by the same user.
[10:12] <david_> For the most part, I only want the install script ran with SUDO so I can add files to places I normally might not be able to or to change permissions for something I'm setting up.
[10:13] <david_> I'd be writing this install script assuming $home points to the user's home folder I'm installing the program to run as, rather than the Root/system user.
[10:13] <cousteau> non-sudo for local install (e.g. ~/program/) and sudo for /usr/local/
[10:13] <cousteau> or /opt/
[10:13] <cousteau> david_, but if ran with sudo, the user that is doing the install is root
[10:13] <cousteau> casted by the user
[10:14] <david_> I think sudo not changing the $home variable by default is wholly intentional and to good purpose.
[10:14] <cousteau> you never see superman doing superman stuff dressed as clark kent
[10:14] <david_> cousteau: But the files are still OWNED by the user running the script.
[10:14] <david_> They're just doing it with superuser permissions.
[10:14] <cousteau> david_, if sudo writes something, its owner will be root
[10:15] <david_> And still relative to the user who's running the script's home directory.
[10:15] <thermion> how uses realtive paths in an installer??
[10:16] <thermion> *relative
[10:16] <cousteau> david_, actually the INSTALL script should not touch the user CONFIGURATION
[10:16] <david_> cousteau: And that can be changed by the script, but if it's placed in the wrong folder, ie a sub-dirctory of  /home/root/something and it should be in /home/bob/something you have other problems.
[10:16] <cousteau> so it should either go to ./ or to an install path
[10:16] <david_> Suffice it to say I merely think aliasing sudo to sudo -h by default is not a great idea.
[10:16] <cousteau> so to $PWD and not to $HOME
[10:16] <sadf> OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  AUTRALIA IS DOOMMMMMMMM    ----> http://i.imgur.com/Chm5B.jpg
[10:16] <cousteau> -H, not -h
[10:17] <david_> It might not be wrong, or bad, but it could cause some un-expected side-effects.
[10:17] <cousteau> I think it would avoid a bunch of sudo-related errors
[10:18] <cousteau> and all those "nooo! don't use sudo for graphical things, use gksudo!"
[10:18] <david_> Most of the "install" scripts I write are CLI php scripts used to take a fresh Clone from Git and move all the *.default files to their right places and all that and change directory permissions and stuff.
[10:19] <cousteau> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo
[10:19] <cousteau> seems that the only problem with sudo vs gksudo is the $HOME thing
[10:20] <cousteau> david_, sudo installations should be system-wide and thus not touch a specific user's configuration
[10:20] <david_> Right, anyway, I didn't really want to argue, I'm just saying I can think of instances where that alias may not be a great idea.
[10:21] <david_> cousteau: Are you talking about an install done by a sudo install.sh ?
[10:21] <cousteau> we're not arguing! we're discussing.
[10:22] <david_> Just because something "should" be a certain way doesn't mean it always is.
[10:22] <cousteau> david_, I'm talking about whatever install script you were talking about
[10:22] <david_> Have you looked at browser compatibility lately?
[10:24] <david_> "Oh, I forgot to make templates_c writable. Oops."
[10:27] <david_> http://pastebin.com/47jgzaqu
[10:31] <e-v-o> How can I enable Unity 3D (at the moment it's 2D only) in Ubuntu 12.04 running on VirtulaBox?
[10:31] <david_> e-v-o: Is the option available on the login screen?
[10:32] <e-v-o> david_: It doesn't appear to be, options are Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D
[10:33] <david_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205137/unity-3d-doesnt-work-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-in-virtual-box-hosted-by-windows-7-64b
[10:33] <e-v-o> The host is a macbook pro btw
[10:34] <david_> https://www.google.com/search?&q=enable+unity+3d+ubuntu+12.04+virtualbox&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[10:37] <david_> e-v-o: Buying an MBP was your first mistake. :P But that is entirely another discussion altogether, however if you ever need a new one let me know. I have a laptop and some super glue laying around you could have.
[10:37] <david_> Scratch that, I just found the Gorilla Glue. Much more effective. :D
[10:39] <e-v-o> david_: lol I would've bought a Ubuntu supported laptop if it wasn't for the Adobe software that I need for work. Besides, no laptop hardware comes close to the mbp build.
[10:39] <BlackDalek> What is a fool-proof way of finding the location of a file on my system? I can never get the nautilus file search to find anything
[10:40] <BlackDalek> how can I find a file in the filesystem?
[10:41] <david_> e-v-o: Too bad it's glued in...so in <18 months, when hardware is twice as good, there's no possibility of an upgrade without another 1.5k. I like the Mac UI (to an extent) but the price tag and super glue is where I draw the line. The computer shop down the street can build me a Mac-ish specced laptop for less $$$ that I can upgrade.
[10:41] <e-v-o> david_: thanks for the links but they don't seem to be specific to my situation.
[10:41] <david_> BlackDalek: Is it a common config file? I use google. (Like for finding hosts-enabled)
[10:41] <BlackDalek> is there some command which will search the entire filesystem for the  file specified?
[10:42] <e-v-o> david_: that's not totally true, you can upgrade ram and hardisk, what else do you want on a laptop?
[10:42] <david_> Otherwise I'm sure there's a REALLY cool, and crazy, command you could use to do what you want.
[10:42] <BlackDalek> david_, no, it is a specific file belonging to a program which I want to copy from one computer to another.. but I do not know its location
[10:42] <david_> e-v-o: Really? I was under the impression that RAM and HDD in the MBP were glued in.
[10:42] <david_> Huh.
[10:42] <Linpassion> hi
[10:43] <BlackDalek> david_, I know the exact name of the file, I just can't find it
[10:43] <david_> My neighbor was groaning about it.
[10:43] <e-v-o> david_: nope, they never have. You do need to unscrew the bottom though :P
[10:43] <thermion> how about "find / -name [name_of_file]?
[10:43] <david_> BlackDalek: try find filename
[10:43] <tempin> hi! i want to give ubuntu for ARMv7 a try, where can I search for available software for this particular platform?
[10:43] <e-v-o> BlackDalek: look up the Linux "find" command.
[10:44] <e-v-o> oops too late
[10:44] <alimj> e-v-o: Did you install Virtual-Box extensions already? Did you enable 3D support in Virtual-Box video setting?
[10:44] <Linpassion> there ise same user to know ho to change the purple screen on ubuntu 12.02 LTS, without using plymouth^?
[10:44] <david_> e-v-o: http://macdailynews.com/2012/06/13/teardown-of-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-reveals-soldered-ram-glued-in-battery/
[10:44] <e-v-o> alimj, yes I did. That was the first thing I did.
[10:45] <david_> Linpassion: gnome-utils?
[10:45] <david_> It's in the USC.
[10:46] <tempin> is there an online version of apt-cache search "software" specific for available packages for ARM?
[10:46] <e-v-o> david_: wasn't aware of that! mine's the previous model. I certainly won't be upgrading if it is true.
[10:47] <Linpassion> i'll try david
[10:47] <david_> e-v-o: Pretty sure it is. My neighbor was groaning about it a while back, and so has a collegue that I used to work with complained that he should have saved 500 and bought a Best Buy laptop and super glue.
[10:48] <david_> Does anyone have any idea what's wrong with my SSH? I can paste the ssh -vvv again if need be.
[10:49] <noregret> what package has add-apt-repository ?
[10:49] <david_> noregret: ?
[10:49] <david_> noregret: I thought that was an apt utility?
[10:50] <BlackDalek> how long does the "find" command usually take to search a 70gb filesystem? been sitting there for 5 minutes now....
[10:50] <BlackDalek> Has it stalled?
[10:51] <david_> BlackDalek: Not really sure? Probably depends on whether or not there's indexing and stuff.
[10:52] <david_> Also depends on the how many files.
[10:52] <BlackDalek> david_, a whole bunch of permission denied errors are coming up - is there anyway I can force it to search those directories too?
[10:52] <david_> And if you're searching just the file name.
[10:52] <lemonsparrow> I have ssh command like this $ ssh -l user -p 22<EMAIL_ADDRESS> how to add the proxy to this command ?
[10:52] <david_> BlackDalek: sudo find
[10:52] <david_> perhaps.
[10:53] <david_> lemonsparrow: I don't think ssh utility itself supports a proxy, or at least there's nothing in the docs.
[10:54] <david_> You can configure a base proxy to route all your traffic through from your computer, if you want.
[10:54] <david_> No sure how though.
[10:54] <david_> Or maybe there's a way to pipe to or from the ssh for a proxied connection.
[10:56] <lemonsparrow> david_: I am trying $ ssh -v -p 22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and i get the error ssh: connect to host host.com port 22: Connection timed out
[10:57] <david_> lemonsparrow: No idea what -v does. I use ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 1234
[10:58] <david_> lemonsparrow: And since port 22 is the default, you don't need it.
[10:58] <lemonsparrow> david_: and where do you set the proxy ?
[10:58] <david_> Unless you're trying to SSH to a non-standard port.
[10:59] <david_> lemonsparrow: I don't think you can with ssh. You'd probably have to do it via the system or a pipe somehow or something. Or SSH into a VM then SSH from the VM to somewhere else.
[10:59] <lemonsparrow> david_: I still get port 22: Connection timed out
[11:00] <david_> Can you ping the IP you're trying to reach? Is it the right port?
[11:01] <david_> Is there really an SSHd server running on the target machine for you to connect to?
[11:01] <lemonsparrow> david_: I am trying to ssh into a public server
[11:01] <david_> Connecting from a proxy probably won't resolve you not being able to connect.
[11:01] <david_> But I don't know.
[11:02] <david_> Anyway, I need to go afk for a bit.
[11:04] <agsel> is there something like krusader with synchronization in gnome?
[11:04] <Guest91268> trying out steam and installed the latest Nvidia additional drivers and it dident work, how do i uinstall it from the terminal
[11:08] <jonesn420> sup
[11:08] <XATRIX> Hi guys, is there any repo where can i find a 3.7 kernel with pf-kernel patchset to install from ?
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