[17:07] <Stereocaulon> mynameisdeleted, did you try to run a utility to check if your HDD is still physically OK? In my case it was my IDE/ SATA controller that was shot.
[17:08] <bazhang> bishal, this is ubuntu support; did you have a support question? or just wish to chat
[17:08] <arand> !enter | bishal
[17:08] <mynameisdeleted> I have very cheap hard drive... 1.5TB for 115 bucks
[17:08] <bazhang> bishal, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[17:08] <bishal> no i dont hane
[17:08] <mynameisdeleted> from reports that drive can fail sometimes .. hence teh bad end of consumer reviws for it
[17:08] <joph> can i downgrade to ubuntu 8.04 from within ubuntu 9.10 ?
[17:08] <mynameisdeleted> I dont think the motherboard type ever fails
[17:08] <IdleOne> !downgrade
[17:08] <bazhang> joph, no, full reinstall
[17:08] <Stereocaulon> mynameisdeleted, WD I presume? I've had 2 of them that died within 4 months.
[17:08] <InvaderZim> joph Why???
[17:09] <InvaderZim> joph just reinstall
[17:09] <joph> are you sure bazhang ?
[17:09] <IdleOne> positive
[17:09] <bazhang> joph, noy a wubi install?
[17:09] <joph> omg i don't want all my files to go to waste ^
[17:09] <bazhang> err not
[17:09] <mynameisdeleted> whats the most reputable drive brand for 1.5tb size and sata?
[17:09] <administrator_> hi
[17:09] <quarkup> any1 using wine with a kernel with a BFS / CK / ZEN patchset ? i wonder about this :: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=10581
[17:09] <IdleOne> mynameisdeleted: ##hardware
[17:09] <joph> i installed with wubi, yes
[17:09] <bazhang> ##hardware for hardware questions please mynameisdeleted
[17:09] <Stereocaulon> mynameisdeleted, I'd say Seagate, but they make a lot of noise

[17:09] <administrator_> exit
[17:10] <the_real_dave> mynameisdeleted: I wouldn't be so sure. I once managed to short circuit just one fan connector on a mobo :) Ridiclious
[17:10] <bazhang> joph, and you have backed up your data?
[17:10] <InvaderZim> Question: How to return from Console Login to Graphical Login?
[17:10] <mynameisdeleted> seagate barracuda 3.5 inch sata 1.5tb
[17:10] <IdleOne> InvaderZim: ctrl-alt-F7
[17:10] <mynameisdeleted> 32mb cache 7200 rpm
[17:10] <bazhang> ctrl alt f7 InvaderZim
[17:10] <oCean_> mynameisdeleted: this is not a hardware discussion channel.
[17:10] <InvaderZim> IdleOne: no, its BLANK
[17:10] <InvaderZim> KDM -> Console Login
[17:11] <Fitzz> I installed e16 and then removed it, and then i can't move any windows anymore on gnome. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:11] <petsounds> bazhang, it seems that my iPod is not formatted http://is.gd/6SIeq
[17:11] <joph> can i copy my files from the linux partition to a windows partition without destroying sth in windows?
[17:11] <julio> Hi people, can someone help with my Flash PLugin??? When I watch a video in youtube, when I try to pause the video, the flash doesnt answer the command
[17:11] <quarkup> try Ctrl+Alt+F7 then the same but between F1 and F12
[17:11] <InvaderZim> quark all blank except for the 6 consoles
[17:11] <quarkup> hmm
[17:11] <InvaderZim> and KDM still running as a process
[17:11] <quarkup> then your KDM daemon is not running
[17:12] <IdleOne> does startx work for kdm?
[17:12] <InvaderZim> startx works
[17:12] <quarkup> kill it then restart the kdm
[17:12] <InvaderZim> but its not what I want
[17:12] <InvaderZim> it doesnt asks for login
[17:12] <quarkup> sudo pkill -kill kdm ; startx
[17:12] <quarkup> hmm
[17:12] <InvaderZim> ok... I want to know if there's a "graceful friendly" way of doing it
[17:12] <bazhang> petsounds, palimpsest? did you not try rhythmbox or did palimpsest autolaunch
[17:12] <julio> Hi guys, why video in youtube do not PAUSE? Im runing Karmic Koala last flasb version
[17:12] <needhelp1> does anyone know any portable hdd that are using usb 3.0 ?
[17:12] <InvaderZim> you can choose console login, but cant go back unless you reboot/
[17:12] <administrator__> hi
[17:13] <quarkup> (in kde) sudo systemsettings > advanced > login screen > user convenience > auto-login (disable it)
[17:13] <oCean_> needhelp1: maybe ask in ##hardware? This is not the place for hardware discussions
[17:13] <InvaderZim> quarkup: no, its not autologin. it doesnt show because I ran startx with my user, so its already logged in
[17:13] <quarkup> do
[17:13] <quarkup> sudo pkill -kill Xorg
[17:13] <quarkup> sudo pkill -kill kdm
[17:14] <InvaderZim> quarkup: and if I stop and restart kdm, it works... but it's not friendly, AND in the login screen shows the console login SESSION even though its logged out
[17:14] <oCean_> !prefix | quarkup
[17:14] <Stereocaulon>  My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...
[17:14] <mike5> hi again. I'm reading the forums and I see that wireless problems are quite common in 9.10...
[17:14] <mike5> Still, I'd like to get it working, if asomeone could spare a few minutes
[17:14] <quarkup> InvaderZim: so it happens every time you restart the cpu
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: no... when I restart it works again
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: I just want to go back to KDM without rebooting
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: and without restarting services
[17:15] <petsounds> bazhang, rhythmbox can't detect my ipod :(
[17:15] <quarkup> InvaderZim: then just start it
[17:15] <quarkup> KDM is a service xD
[17:15] <quarkup> a daemon
[17:15] <InvaderZim> quarkup: KDM is already running
[17:15] <bazhang> petsounds, thats odd
[17:15] <needhelp1> mike5: wireless issues
[17:16] <needhelp1> ?
[17:16] <InvaderZim> quarkup: I shouldnt have to restart it
[17:16] <quarkup> windows has services, linux has daemons
[17:16] <mike5> yes. doesn't connect
[17:16] <oCean_> mike5: Describe your problem including hardware details and steps taken sofar. Try to keep the description in single line, so that one can follow
[17:16] <quarkup> InvaderZim: maybe it has got a problem or something weird
[17:16] <sdwrage> Hey all
[17:16] <needhelp1> i wish ubuntu would look into this, and replace nm applet
[17:16] <sdwrage> where do I put system sound themes?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[17:16] <InvaderZim> quarkup: I didnt restart it to go to console, it was user friendly. Just click Power Button -> Console Login
[17:16] <needhelp1> mike5: what is it doing, or not doing?
[17:16] <InvaderZim> quarkup: not power button, menu... mixed up
[17:17] <quarkup> InvaderZim: i im understanding you
[17:17] <scunizi> would someone hilight my nick? I'm testing an irssi script
[17:17] <llutz> scunizi: no
[17:17] <Myke1> Hello people, I have a question if you can answer... its not about Ubuntu per se, but about a program called Virtualbox... anyone know how to make the window bigger?
[17:17] <quarkup> InvaderZim: it may be a bug :s
[17:17] <Diverdude> I have 2 very simple scripts ( see: http://pastebin.com/m59daddec) who each opens up a terminal window. Is it possible to fuse these 2 scripts into a single script which first opens a terminal, executes the ssh in this terminal, then open a new tab in that terminal window and executes the second script in that terminal window tab?
[17:17] <scunizi> llutz: worked! thanks
[17:17] <InvaderZim> quarkup: so no one uses this option i think, since no one knows a way to go back
[17:17] <quarkup> in my box it works great, but im using archlinux
[17:17] <InvaderZim> quarkup: how do you go back then?
[17:17] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, install VirtualBox extensions, than shut-down and restart your VM
[17:17] <quarkup> i usually just press Ctrl+Alt+F7
[17:17] <InvaderZim> quarkup: it should be a command like "logout"
[17:17] <quarkup> wait
[17:18] <quarkup> im checking 1 thing
[17:18] <Myke1> Virtualbox extensions are available at the VBox website?
[17:18] <ironfoot495> HI is there someone who can help fix pear and xml on my machione?
[17:18] <InvaderZim> quarkup: no, if I press ctrl+alt+f1, it works as your way... but what I'm doing is different
[17:18] <quarkup> about the ttys and how to find the tty in which the kdm is asking for login
[17:18] <ironfoot495> machine?
[17:18] <quarkup> i know
[17:18] <quarkup> InvaderZim: the only way to get from the tty1 to the KDM is pressing Ctrl+Alt+F7
[17:18] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, They are available from the status bar in an open VM, look under the icon that looks like a chip
[17:19] <scunizi> Myke1: no.. at the top of the VM guest window there are 3 menus .. one will let you "install" or mount the virtual cdrom containing vbox guest additions..
[17:19] <quarkup> usually a linux box has configured 6 terminals
[17:19] <InvaderZim> quarkup: but seems Console Login kills the "f7 screen"
[17:19] <needhelp1> mike5:  u there?
[17:19] <scunizi> Myke1: are you running kde or gnome?
[17:19] <oCean_> Myke1: you can install the guestadditions through menu option (not sure which one) - it'll download the additions.iso if not already present
[17:19] <InvaderZim> quarkup: all I get is a black screen with blinking cursos on top left
[17:19] <quarkup> so in the 7 and above are the Xorg terminal, the graphic environment
[17:19] <sdwrage> where do I put system sound themes?
[17:19] <Stereocaulon> scunizi, This depends on the version of Virtualbox
[17:19] <Myke1> Ubuntu 9.10 (Gnome)
[17:20] <mike5> installed 9.10 for the first time yesterday. then I right-clicked on Wireless iconm selected "Edit connections..."/added in wireless tab, defines SSID, and Wireless security "WPA & WPA2 personal"
[17:20] <Myke1> ok let me look for the menu
[17:20] <quarkup> InvaderZim: weird. it must be a bug. ask it in the ubuntu forums. maybe you have found one bug. !
[17:20] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, which Guest OS are you running as VM?
[17:20] <scunizi> Stereocaulon: if you mean the difference between -ose and non-free you might be right.. I only run non-free for the usb support
[17:20] <Stereocaulon> scunizi, that might be the difference, yes...
[17:20] <InvaderZim> quarkup: is it better to ask in forums or file a bug?
[17:20] <mike5> needhelp1: I also have "connect automatically" checked and "available to all users"
[17:20] <Myke1> Free BSD
[17:21] <scunizi> Myke1: did you load vbox from the repos or did you get it direct from vbox?
[17:21] <needhelp1> and it wont connect?
[17:21] <needhelp1> mike5:
[17:21] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, I'm not sure if FreeBSD has extensions...
[17:21] <Myke1> From Vbox's website
[17:21] <quarkup> InvaderZim: ask first in the forum. it may be an issue
[17:22] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, did you install a .deb specifically for Ubu 9.10?
[17:22] <sdwrage> where do I put system sound themes?
[17:22] <Myke1> Yup
[17:22] <quarkup> InvaderZim: then if nobody has an answer OR if nobody solves the problem, file the bug report ;)
[17:22]  * matelot Is Bazaar a good chioce for single-user to just keep track of changes to files (not projects) ?
[17:22] <Myke1> Everything works just fine, its just that the window doesnt get any bigger then what it is
[17:23] <Stereocaulon> matelot, Bazaar is quite heavy, I'm not sure if it's useful for 1-person "projects"
[17:23] <matelot> Stereocaulon: oh really, that sucks
[17:23] <Stereocaulon> Myke1, did you try setting VM options in VBox before you start the VM?
[17:24] <deanx3> hi.. i want my dns server..update automatically my dynamic ip  in all A records entries...  is the best thing to do , or its better to use CNAME only with dyndns domain?
[17:24] <deanx3>  the ip change very rarely... but i want something update auto
[17:24] <Stereocaulon> matelot, why not use Subversion, or CVS?
[17:24] <jolaren> hello
[17:25] <Stereocaulon> !question | jolaren
[17:25] <mike5> needhelp1: also, if I left click on the wireless icon, and select "connect to hidden wireless network", if I select the connection from combo box, it the data gets filled in other fields except password, but "connect" button is disabled.
[17:25] <matelot> Stereocaulon: SVN has not gui client
[17:26] <jolaren> Stereocaulon; I have no question
[17:26] <matelot> Stereocaulon: cvs is rather "old"
[17:26] <fire_princes> #ubuntu .bg
[17:26] <Myke1> i dont have an option, it let me adjust the window size, but it doesnt get any bigger
[17:26] <oCean_> Stereocaulon: there was no question (yet) in there. No need to throw the !factoids around
[17:26] <fire_princes> could someone give me the link to that bg chat?
[17:27] <bazhang> fire_princes, #ubuntu-bg for bulgaria
[17:27] <fire_princes> thank you!
[17:27] <mosimo> ive got a rather odd problem ive not seen before, If i do "df -h" my partition /dev/sda1 says size: 456G, used 434G, available 0, use 100%
[17:28] <Stereocaulon> matelot, there is an extension for Firefox if you use Tortoise SVN. That will get you a GUI
[17:28] <mosimo> no matter how much stuff i delete it always says available: 0
[17:28] <mosimo> even though the used amount is going down
[17:28] <Lyoko> ñlkjhgfd
[17:28] <Xqtftqx_> hey, im having trouble starting pureftpd. i get: Fatal: unable to load module 'mod_lang.c': Operation not permitte
[17:29] <paulproteus> The filesystem reserves some space for root by default
[17:29] <paulproteus> man tune2fs look for reserve
[17:29] <Lyoko> español
[17:29] <matelot> Stereocaulon: Tortoise SVN is awindows client , no ?
[17:29] <ikonia> !es | Lyoko
[17:29] <mosimo> cheers, ill have a look
[17:29] <bazhang> Lyoko, #ubuntu-es
[17:29] <joph> what does LTS mean?
[17:29] <joph> (hardy heron LTS)
[17:29] <ikonia> joph: "long term support"
[17:29] <Lyoko> hello
[17:29] <Stereocaulon> matelot, it also has a Linux-port if I'm not mistaken
[17:29] <Xqtftqx_> is there a special chan for server support?
[17:29] <Lyoko> bonjour
[17:29] <Lyoko> hola
[17:29] <scunizi> !lts | joph
[17:30] <ikonia> Xqtftqx_: ask here or #ubuntu-server
[17:30] <Xqtftqx_> thank you
[17:30] <mosimo> heh, cant run gzip to extract the manual. no space on device, ill look for an online one
[17:30] <Lyoko> Ablo español
[17:30] <ikonia> !es | Lyoko
[17:30] <bazhang> Lyoko, /join #ubuntu-es
[17:30] <Stereocaulon> matelot, sorry about that, you can use RapidSVN in combination with SubVersion
[17:30] <joph> ah thanks ikonia
[17:31] <Lyoko> qwertyuiopñlkjhgfdsazxcvbnm
[17:31] <matelot> Stereocaulon: yeah never heard of RapidSVN, have to check it out...
[17:31] <Lyoko> ffgggg
[17:31] <bazhang> Lyoko, stop that
[17:31] <bazhang> whoops
[17:32] <mosimo> paulproteus: tune2fs, setting the reserve block amount lower sorted it for now, thanks
[17:32] <paulproteus> mosimo, Yay!
[17:32] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, What a delicious polite phrase to kick someone from the channel, I love it...
[17:32] <mosimo> got to fit a bigger hdd in there on monday now
[17:33] <joph> omg it will only take 18 hours to download the desktop iso because i got only 10KB/s
[17:33] <Stereocaulon> joph, whoa, are you on a ISDN-line or something?
[17:33] <InvaderZim> joph: torrent up
[17:33] <scunizi> joph: try the torrent
[17:33] <IdleOne> take you less time to start from scratch
[17:35] <joph> my internet is down to 10KB/s maybe because i didn't pay my provider this month until today
[17:35] <jph_> why would sudo apt-get install apache2 return that if couldn't find a package by that name?
[17:35] <scunizi> jph_: do you want the full lamp stack?
[17:36] <Stereocaulon> joph, that is reasonable, you can still read your text-only e-mail that way.
[17:36] <ikonia> jph_: is there a package called apache2 ?
[17:36] <ikonia> jph_: also make sure you do apt-get update first
[17:36] <jph_> yes but tasksel dosn't list it...
[17:36] <scunizi> jph_: tasksel does list "lamp"
[17:37] <jph_> yea just basic server, ssh and manual
[17:37] <Stereocaulon> joph, You might try to seek an open Wireless Network instead, just ask around with your neighbours.
[17:37] <scunizi> jph_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:37] <jph_> 9.10
[17:37] <joph> ye
[17:37] <InvaderZim> how do you leave tasksel?
[17:37] <M3TVF> anybody running Linrad in Ubuntu
[17:37] <InvaderZim> ctrl c doesnt work
[17:38] <scunizi> jph_: it's there.. there's so much more listed in tasksel on 9.10 it's easy to overlook
[17:38] <Stereocaulon> InvaderZim, did you try 'q'?
[17:38] <jph_> k brb phone call
[17:39] <InvaderZim> Stereocaulon: Q doesnt work
[17:39] <Welshy-Rob_> hi dose anyone know of a pidgin plugin that sets your status as what songs playing in ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[17:40] <InvaderZim> Welshy-Rob_: ask in  #pidgin
[17:40] <boss_mc> Welshy-Rob_: pidgin-musictracker
[17:40] <matelot> Anyone evered used Perforce ?
[17:40] <Welshy-Rob_> InvaderZim, i tried , couldnt connect to channel
[17:41] <Welshy-Rob_> cheers boss_mc
[17:41] <Xfact> I found many useful DNS servers that many company providing, like Google public dns, Opendns etc., can anyone tell me which is the best dns provider that can really stabilize my connection?
[17:42] <ikonia> Xfact: that's not an ubuntu question
[17:42] <unop> Xfact, the best ones are the ones who have the shortest roundtrip time for you -- so benchmark a few and choose the one that suits you well
[17:42] <Tr1n> Xfact:  download namebench, will tell you what server is fastest for you
[17:42] <joph> Stereocaulon thanks for the hint :)
[17:43] <Xfact> thanks, and I believe that was a Ubuntu internet settings related question :)
[17:43] <Stereocaulon> joph, np :-)
[17:43] <Stereocaulon>  My 5.1 sound stopped working using either Pulse or ALSA. I'm on Ubu 9.10 64 Bits on HDA-Intel audio. I'm having a DVD evening next week and I'd like it to work by then. Tried lots of solutions offered by Ubuntu forums, but none worked properly...
[17:43] <joph> Stereocaulon but i have no wlan ^^ i will use torrent because sometimes it stops loading and i need to redownload omg
[17:43] <ikonia> Xfact: no it's not
[17:44] <Xfact> ikonia: I don't want to start a debate, but I think it's your personal opinion :)
[17:44] <ikonia> Xfact: no - it's not, asking which open dns servers are stable is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:44] <ikonia> Xfact: if your dns servers are failing, contact your ISP
[17:44] <Stereocaulon> joph, Maybe one of your neighbours are so kind to download Ubuntu for you and burn it on a disk? Many old folks around here have a 4MB+ ADSL connection just to get some occasional e-mail...
[17:44] <joph> Stereocaulon: did you install jack or something like that?
[17:45] <jellow> anyone know a way to autmaticly reverse ssh tunnel every time i boot
[17:45] <mibmib_> i have a question about my apache configuration - the standard user for apache is www-data, also the group is www-data...the ftp user is not in this group....all www documents will have my user and my group when uploaded....so should i always change user and group of these documents via ssh or should i change user and group in my apache configuration (i don´t wanna give these documents 777...
[17:45] <mibmib_> ...rights, i guess thats not secure)
[17:45] <FloodBot4> mibmib_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <Xfact> ikonia: actually that wasn't my question, I was asking for batter DNS...
[17:45] <ikonia> mibmib_: you'd have to script that
[17:45] <Stereocaulon> joph, no I didn't install
[17:45] <Stereocaulon> Jack
[17:45] <ikonia> Xfact: yes, and better dns serves are nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:46] <joph> hehe i will download it myself. sometimes i'm a little patient :) well from 26mbit down to 10kb :D that's hard food
[17:46] <ikonia> joph: have you tried using the torrents ? they normally come down quicker
[17:47] <Wipster> Hi, I'm trying to make a boot cd remastering didn't work out too well so I am trying to build from scratch but I am having a few issues with size and I think I am messing something up heh. Can someone lend a hand
[17:47] <joph> i'm just using it
[17:47] <killaxxl> killa
[17:47] <Stereocaulon> joph, that's a good pipe indeed. 26MB/s...If you can't pay it, why not downgrade to some more affordable connection?
[17:48] <Xfact> ikonia: yes it is, Ubuntu runs internet, and faster internet runs on batter DNS, I wanted faster net on my karmic so I asked, so I believe it has relation with Ubuntu and so other peoples answered my question gently, and please don't keep this topic anymore....:)
[17:48] <joph> my download rate is low because my provider has set it that way
[17:49] <killaxxl> recent
[17:49] <IdleOne> Xfact: better is the proper spelling :)
[17:49] <killaxxl> !recent
[17:49] <Stereocaulon> Wipster, try using K3B in order to get a reliable bootable CD.
[17:49] <ikonia> Xfact: please view your private messages as I don't want to take the channel any further offtopic
[17:49] <joph> it's about 19€ per month, it's not that expensive
[17:50] <joph> cable
[17:50] <aboucipu> ...
[17:50] <Wipster> Stereocaulon, thanks, I;l look into it
[17:50] <Stereocaulon> joph, That's pretty good indeed, how's your upload?
[17:50] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: guys - the channels topic is ubuntu support
[17:50] <ikonia> not dsl comparision tests, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic of pm please.
[17:50] <osotogari> Anyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?
[17:50] <Xfact> IdleOne: where I miss-spelled?
[17:51] <IdleOne> Xfact: in your last two statements.
[17:51] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, OK.
[17:51] <joph> i didn't pay because my money didn't come
[17:51] <killaxxl> theres a package download for fn kays
[17:51] <killaxxl> heys*
[17:51] <joph> ul is just 1mb
[17:51] <killaxxl> keys*
[17:51] <deanx3> is it better to run older version of ubuntu..with 128RAM? or the latest will run properly without gui? for run a server http,smtp,pop3,dns with 20clients max approx?
[17:51] <Xfact> i don't think so...
[17:51] <Stereocaulon> joph, we could discuss this in a Private channel, ikonia is not someone to mess with
[17:52] <ikonia> deanx3: just run ubuntu 8.04 for stability and disable X11
[17:52] <dart> Hello, since I can install firefox 32bits in ubuntu 9.10 64bits?
[17:52] <ikonia> deanx3: you'll get solid stability and disabling X will save you some ram
[17:52] <salat> would someone with network knowledge please query me?
[17:52] <joph> hehe np
[17:52] <ikonia> deanx3: you can, but why do you wnat to ?
[17:52] <ikonia> salat: just ask the channel your question if it's an ubuntu issue
[17:52] <joph> but this is a serious linux problem ;D
[17:53] <ikonia> joph: enough please.
[17:53] <Stereocaulon> I'm trying to enable Japanese (Kana/ Kanji) input on Ubu 9.10. Tried installing every IME and associated font, but no JP input yet...
[17:53] <killaxxl> when you install it didnt ask language?
[17:53] <AshishMalik> How can I check if my UBUNTU can play WOLFENSTEIN game. Whether it meets all System Requirements or Not.
[17:54] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: you're not the only one who's had a problem with that, I've seen a bug on launchpad for jp support if you don't select it at install time
[17:54] <osotogari> @ killaxxl : whats the package name?
[17:54] <ikonia> AshishMalik: what are the system requirements for wolfenstein ?
[17:54] <salat> something is wrong with my crossover connection. seems like my wlan-inet access uses eth0...shouldnt it use its own?
[17:54] <killaxxl> just search function keys
[17:54] <killaxxl> or fn keys
[17:54] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, thanks do you have a link to that bug?
[17:54] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: no, but I'm sure if you search you'll find it
[17:54] <killaxxl> up at the top of the manager
[17:54] <osotogari> @ killaxxl : in synaptic?
[17:54] <killaxxl> yeah
[17:55] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: I believe this was on 8.04 fyi
[17:55] <killaxxl> \i know i saw a package for toshiba just browsing
[17:55] <maverick> Hi I've installed MPlayer and I keep getting the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.67: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory..libx264-67 is the latest version
[17:55] <ikonia> killaxxl: tosh package is hot keys as I recall
[17:55] <AshishMalik> ikonia: 3D hardware accelerator with 32 MB with full open GLSupport
[17:55] <ikonia> AshishMalik: ok - so that's video card requirements, what video card do you have ?
[17:55] <killaxxl> i am pretty sure it had one for fn keys too
[17:56] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, I've used it without problems from Ubu 5.04 all the way up till 9.10
[17:56] <AshishMalik> ikonia: I mainly want to check this
[17:56] <eremite> I need to know if it's possible to make MLAYER play the audio of a video file delayed 1 second, to fix and out of sync video.
[17:56] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: oh really, so it's just 9.10 casuing you the problem
[17:56] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, I'm afraid so.
[17:56] <sdwrage> Hey all, where is the configuration editor in ubuntu 9.10?
[17:56] <sdwrage> i need to edit my splash image
[17:56] <llutz> sdwrage: sudo nano ....
[17:57] <ikonia> !splash | sdwrage
[17:57] <ikonia> sdwrage: splash image is not a quick change, it's quite complex
[17:57] <ikonia> !bootsplash | sdwrage
[17:57] <salat> seems like my wlancard uses eth0...why is this so?
[17:57] <sdwrage> llutz, ikkerus thx :)
[17:57] <Nuxcy> is there anyway to undo crontab -r ?
[17:57] <me___> hi; i'm running 8.04 (LTS) and would like to upgrade to the future; update-manager -d only offer 10.4 for me... how should i upgrade?
[17:57] <deanx3> i will download
[17:57] <ikonia> me___: update-manager -d is for devleopment releases, there is only 10.04 in development so that's why it's offering you 10.04
[17:57] <deanx3> LTS
[17:57] <deanx3> iokonia
[17:58] <killaxxl> ooo i love this channel
[17:58] <me___> ikonia: ah okay. how should i upgrade?
[17:58] <IdleOne> me___: System > Administration > Update Manager and change the setting from LTS only to all
[17:58] <ikonia> me___: are you currently running 8.04 ?
[17:58] <sdwrage> llutz, why the ... ?
[17:58] <me___> yes
[17:58] <Stereocaulon> me___, I'm afraid it's not feasible to upgrade from 8.04 => 9.10 Try a clean install instead
[17:58] <sdwrage> you stated that like I should know this already
[17:58] <me___> i'd have to do all the intermediate upgrades, right?
[17:58] <llutz> sdwrage: to be replaced by a configuration-filename of your choice
[17:58] <ikonia> me___: ok - so update-manager will only offer you the next lts release (10.04) unless you tell it to offer non-lts releases.
[17:58] <ikonia> me___: yes, you have to go through them
[17:58] <eremite> I need to know if it's possible to make MLAYER (or any video player) play the audio of a video file delayed 1 second, to fix an out of sync video.
[17:58] <sdwrage> llutz, ah I see :P my bad
[17:58] <killaxxl> lol i just got a funny ass pm
[17:59] <thedlw> I recently installed a new nvidia graphics card on karmic.  Now vlc and movie player won't play any video but have audio just fine.  I can play video from the inet on firefox just fine.  Anyone have any idea?
[17:59] <mibmib_> i have a question about my apache configuration - the standard user for apache is www-data, also the group is www-data...
[17:59] <sdwrage> llutz, so used to arrogant people thinking others should know what they know. thx for the help ;)
[17:59] <mibmib_> the ftp user is not in this group....all www documents will have my user and my group when uploaded.
[17:59] <me___> okay, changing sources.list one by one is a good way to step through intrepid/what-ever-9.04-was/jaunty?
[17:59] <osotogari> Anyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?
[17:59] <ikonia> me___: if you open update manager and hit "settings" in the bottom left, you'll see a "release upgrade" drop down at the bottom, change this to "normal releases" rather than lts and it will work
[17:59] <IdleOne> me___: sorry, change LTS only to Normal releases
[17:59] <ikonia> me___: don't change your sources.list - that is the wrong way
[17:59] <xorred> I have / on disk1 and /home on disk2, how do I move / on disk 2 too?
[17:59] <mibmib_> so should i always change user and group of these documents via ssh or should i change user and group in my apache configuration
[17:59] <xorred>  guess a new folder - home - must be created there and /home/content must be moved to /home/, then copy all  from / to disk2 and then run grub?
[18:00] <mibmib_> i don´t wanna give these documents 777 rights, i guess thats not secure
[18:00] <me___> okay, thanks.
[18:00] <Stereocaulon> me___, Mostly it's quicker to just create a backup of your /home drive and do a clean install. If you have to go through every intermediate install, also picking up upgrade bugs of every upgrade in the process...
[18:00] <Thermate> I have some music for this channel.
[18:00] <me___> i can't clean install as i no longer have a cd-drive and can't boot usb...
[18:00] <llutz> eremite: mplayer -delay               (read man-page for further info)
[18:00] <eremite> Music for a help channel?
[18:00] <Thermate> "I will go down with this ship
[18:00] <Thermate> I will raise myh arms
[18:00] <Thermate> and surrender
[18:00] <IdleOne> me___: then you have your answer :)
[18:00] <Thermate> now you won't be able to get it out of your head
[18:01] <xorred> Thermate: fk u
[18:01] <ikonia> me___: follow the instructions I gave you
[18:01] <ikonia> Thermate: stop that please
[18:01] <sdwrage> Thermate, I hate racists
[18:01] <IdleOne> Thermate: stop
[18:01] <me___> ikonia: okay, will d.
[18:01] <me___> *do
[18:01] <Thermate> What did I do wrong?
[18:01] <eremite> sdwrage, WTF are you talking about?
[18:01] <eddym> hey guys how i can i give access to my ubuntu pc to windows pc
[18:01] <Thermate> sdwrage I am not a racist
[18:01] <ikonia> eddym: control the langauge please
[18:01] <sdwrage> eremite, I got a PM
[18:01] <deanx3> any opensource package are available in ubuntu gui.. for automated mouse and keyboard.....  and you can play at schedule later... the mouse and keyboard  you saved early.?
[18:01] <sdwrage> talking about Obama being a N***** from Thermate
[18:02] <ikonia> Thermate: please don't make pointless comments, it's a support channel, help or don't, but don't make pointless noise
[18:02] <eremite> He is.
[18:02] <IdleOne> Thermate: a couple things actually. Using enter key as punctuation, not staying on topic
[18:02] <davi> ciao
[18:02] <eddym> can some1 kick thermate
[18:02] <sdwrage> eremite, again... I hate racism
[18:02] <davi> !lista
[18:02] <eddym> thank you
[18:03] <thedlw> I recently installed a new nvidia graphics card on karmic.  Now vlc and movie player won't play any video but have audio just fine.  I can play video from the inet on firefox just fine.  Anyone have any idea?
[18:03] <IdleOne> eddym: right click on the folder you want to share, click properties and share the folder. Samba will be installed if it is not already. Then you will be able to access that folder from windows
[18:04] <newguy2010> For some reason I cannot access my home room can someone help me
[18:04] <newguy2010> Sorry my home folder
[18:04] <eddym> IdleOne, thanks
[18:04] <IdleOne> eddym: np. if you have any issues just ask in here and someone will try and help
[18:04] <PorbsK> Hi Can anyone tell me how do I enable my SLIP/PPP connection on Kubuntu
[18:05] <n2diy_> ! wireless
[18:05] <newguy2010> I have a new issue, I am not able to save to my home folder it says access denied
[18:05] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, Could you please ban Thermate from this channel, he/ she is harassing me on PM
[18:05] <me___> hmm system >> administration >> update manager doesn't seem to have a 'settings' button?
[18:05] <IdleOne> me___: on the bottom left?
[18:06] <sayanriju> newguy2010, sudo chown -R <yourlogin> /home/<yourlogin>
[18:06] <ikonia> Stereocaulon: it's not in the channel any more, join #freenode and speak to staff
[18:06] <llutz> newguy2010: sudo chown you:you -R /home/you                  you = your username
[18:06] <Stereocaulon> ikonia, I will if Thermate continues.
[18:06] <ertyuio> hi there
[18:06] <me___> ah, its in System >> Admin >> Software Sources
[18:06] <sely> can anyone tell me what package contins gtk-config?  i'm using ubuntu 9.10 if it matters
[18:06] <newguy2010> sayanriju--Thanks ill try
[18:06] <IdleOne> me___: yes there also
[18:07] <ertyuio> i need all this package for ubuntu 9.10 i dont know how to find it
[18:07] <killaxxl> newguy2010: have you tied going root?
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[18:07] <ertyuio> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[18:07] <FloodBot4> ertyuio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <IdleOne> !feisty
[18:08] <IdleOne> ertyuio: upgrade to a supported release
[18:08] <me___> know of any faster gtk themes than Human, btw?
[18:08] <ertyuio> i neeed all this package for ubuntu 9.10
[18:08] <ertyuio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/361385/
[18:08] <Leoneof`> hi, this does work on Ubuntu: "service iptables save" how to do it?
[18:09] <yahya> السلام عليكم
[18:09] <Leoneof`> doesn't*
[18:09] <Leoneof`> this doesn't work on Ubuntu: "service iptables save" how to do it?
[18:09] <sayanriju> ertyuio, those are not packages, they refer to repositories
[18:09] <IdleOne> ertyuio: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:09] <ikonia> Leoneof`: iptables-save is the command
[18:09] <llutz> Leoneof`: sudo iptables-save
[18:09] <Leoneof`> oh thanks :)
[18:09] <killaxxl> every one!!! i just snorted a oxycontin!!!
[18:09] <killaxxl> =/
[18:09] <IdleOne> ikonia: ^^
[18:09] <ertyuio> helllo
[18:10] <newguy2010> I received the error "chown: missing operand after `wmy76ram/home/wmy76ram'  after entering sudo chown -R <login>/home/<yourlogin>
[18:10] <ertyuio> is there anyone here ?
[18:10] <ikonia> IdleOne: huh ?
[18:10] <xorred> can I use 6GB of ram with the default i386 release of 9.10? 9.04 used to see only 4
[18:10] <killaxxl> i am here
[18:10] <IdleOne> ikonia: look at killaxxl last few lines
[18:10] <sayanriju> newguy2010, there's a blank space  before /home...
[18:10] <llutz> xorred: you have to use 64bit or pae-kernel
[18:10] <IdleOne> thank you
[18:10] <mobidroid> Hi I just installed Mandriva on my computer which also have ubuntu, I tought the grub file would just be updated and allow me to boot both OS it's not the case. Is there a easy way to add ubuntu on the list? I cant find the menu.lst from the ubuntu partition in order to copy the kernel image stuff, I tried a chainloader but i guess im doing it wrong
[18:11] <newguy2010> thanks trying again
[18:11] <alanmm> hi all, i have a serious problem and could really use some help please!!!!
[18:11] <ikonia> mobidroid: due to grub 2 it no longer works well as a dual boot option
[18:11] <IdleOne> alanmm: please ask
[18:11] <mobidroid> ikonia: ok is tere a way to repair my ubuntu parition?
[18:11] <mobidroid> partition*
[18:11] <zamba> mobidroid: depends what's wrong with it
[18:12] <bartek> hey
[18:12] <ikonia> mobidroid: what's the problem with it ?
[18:12] <IdleOne> hello bartek
[18:12] <mobidroid> well actually the partition should be fine but i just want to boot ubuntu
[18:12] <bartek> i upgrade my ubu 9.04 to 9.10
[18:12] <mobidroid> mandriva only offer mandriva image
[18:12] <bartek> and there's no sound
[18:12] <ertyuio> lot of question without answer
[18:12] <alanmm> i had run out of space on my 10gb drive and .private or something showed as using most of the space so i removed it (dont use it anyway) and now i can't log in with the graphical login and when i do "ls" nothing shows up at all except . and .. and .cache. when i type df the space used is still nearly full so is my files still there do you think?
[18:12] <ertyuio> here
[18:12] <ikonia> mobidroid: you need to edit your mandrakes boot menu for grub
[18:12] <PorbsK> Are Ubuntu  and Kubuntu setting for PPPoE ADSL same ?
[18:12] <ertyuio> where is my answer ?
[18:13] <IdleOne> bartek: run alsmixer in terminal and unmute everything
[18:13] <newguy2010> sayanriju--  now i receive chown: cannot access `/home/wmy76ram/.gvfs': Permission denied
[18:13] <bartek> hmm
[18:13] <IdleOne> ertyuio: what are you trying to do exactly?
[18:13] <alanmm> this is my work computer so i am kinda screwed if it's messed up :(
[18:13] <sayanriju> mobidroid, read the official help on grub2, and reinstall grub2 using a live cd; then add boot option for Mandriva
[18:13] <bartek> IdleOne, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[18:13] <ertyuio> i just need all this package for 9.10
[18:13] <IdleOne> bartek: hmmm strange
[18:13] <sayanriju> newguy2010, now retry accessing your home directory
[18:13] <bartek> i know;/
[18:14] <IdleOne> !sound | bartek see if this helps some
[18:14] <mobidroid> ikonia, yup, but i'm stock at the name of the kernel and image path, I mounted the ubuntu partition trying to find the "old menu list" but didnt find it to copy paste the old settings so is there a default image that i should use?
[18:14] <_if_> mobidroid: maybe supergrub can help?
[18:14] <bartek> bash: !sound: event not found
[18:14] <ikonia> mobidroid: don't copy and paste your grub 2 options to grub one,  just add the ubuntu entries to your mandriva grub boot list
[18:14] <mobidroid> sayanriju: but who is using grub2 ? ubuntu or madriva? i see grub 1.5 when it boot
[18:14] <IdleOne> bartek: foolow the link and info ubottu just gave you :)
[18:14] <IdleOne> follow*
[18:14] <bartek> ok, thx ubottu
[18:14] <sayanriju> mobidroid, ubuntu 9.10 uses grub2, mandriva uses 1.5
[18:15] <ikonia> mobidroid: you're using the mandriva grub, so that's the one you ned to edit
[18:15] <ikonia> sayanriju: he's using grub 1
[18:15] <sayanriju> ikonia, yes, because he installed mandriva after ubuntu
[18:15] <ikonia> sayanriju: yes
[18:15] <joph> alanmm: did you type in cd / before looking for files?
[18:15] <bartek> reboot
[18:15] <newguy2010> sayanriju:  OK on home folder but trying to put file there to install program and get this error  Error moving file: Permission denied
[18:15] <berserk_ren> yo! i was wondering, when I install drivers for my Radeon 9200 SE like said in some manuals, i get lot's of bugs... i tried to use fglrx, tried to use drivers from ATI official site... but my view is become bad... or it's black screen, distorted screen, or my pc become very slow... give me some advice plz. how to make it work normally... and i wanna play some games\watch video normally... without acceleration video is very slow sometimes T_T
[18:15] <mobidroid> ikonia: yep lets me put on pastebin some info about my stuff
[18:15] <alanmm> joph: no. if i do that then i get lots of stuff like dev mnt usr home etc
[18:16] <salem_caen> #ubuntu-fr
[18:16] <alanmm> i can log in in the black console
[18:16] <sayanriju> ikonia, mobidroid so he should perhaps restore the ubuntu grub, and then add a boot option for mandriva
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: why ?
[18:16] <sayanriju> ikonia, coz grub2>grub1.5
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: ubuntu won't be able to update any mandriva options due to how grub 2 works, mandriva will
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: no it's not
[18:16] <ikonia> sayanriju: why is grub2 better than grub 1 ?
[18:16] <alanmm> but not the graphical window.. just goes back to the login window after a few seconds
[18:16] <joph> so what is missing?
[18:16] <sayanriju> not better, later version
[18:17] <ikonia> sayanriju: so ??? why does that mean its better to use
[18:17] <alanmm> joph: when i log in, if i type ls it shows ., .., .cache
[18:17] <berserk_ren> yo! i was wondering, when I install drivers for my Radeon 9200 SE like said in some manuals, i get lot's of bugs... i tried to use fglrx, tried to use drivers from ATI official site... but my view is become bad... or it's black screen, distorted screen, or my pc become very slow... give me some advice plz. how to make it work normally... and i wanna play some games\watch video normally... without acceleration video is very slow sometimes T_T I
[18:17] <berserk_ren>  using ubuntu 9.04
[18:17] <ikonia> sayanriju: if version numbers ar eyou deciding factor I suggest you look at how you evaluate software
[18:17] <PorbsK> is "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf' gonna also work for Kubuntu ?
[18:17] <alanmm> joph: nothing else. until i removed .private it had Documents, Desktop, etc etc etc
[18:17] <sayanriju> ikonia, perhaps you should suggest the ubuntu devs the same thing
[18:17] <IdleOne> PorbsK: it should
[18:17] <PorbsK> ok
[18:18] <IdleOne> PorbsK: you could ask in #kubuntu
[18:18] <ikonia> sayanriju: they chose it for a different reason, grub 1 is better for his dual boot options
[18:18] <sayanriju> personally, /me feels grub2 is plain half-baked
[18:18] <joph> alanmm: but u wanted to delete it and now complain about that?
[18:18] <mobidroid> ikonia: http://pastebin.fr/6640
[18:18] <bartek> lol
[18:18] <newguy2010> cant save to home folder.  I get access denied.  I am the administrator.
[18:18] <bartek> now it works
[18:18] <bartek> :)
[18:18] <IdleOne> bartek: happy to hear it.
[18:19] <mobidroid> I know that the ubuntu partition is the first partition
[18:19] <IdleOne> bartek: what did you change?
[18:19] <joph> berserk_ren: try the ati drivers and build distro specific packages
[18:19] <mAriachi> hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:19] <alanmm> joph: no, there was a folder called .private or .Private or Private or something.. it was showing as taking all the space and i don't use it so I deleted it but it deleted EVERYTHING like documents etc that were not in the "private" folder
[18:19] <sayanriju> ikonia, actually IMHO, both grub2 and 1.5 are ok for his purpose, but let's not argue :)
[18:19] <PorbsK> My ethernet device just wont get started while in Kubuntu is there any way to get it work it's attached to motherboard
[18:19] <bartek> i changed in menu.lst kernel number
[18:19] <ikonia> sayanriju: really - ok, how would mandriva update the grub options that are stored on ubuntu's /etc partition ?
[18:19] <bartek> because i did upgrade from 9,04 to 9,10
[18:19] <berserk_ren> joph, i've tried many times... i usen Envy too
[18:20] <IdleOne> bartek: ok.
[18:20] <bartek> and grub doesn't change idk why
[18:20] <mobidroid> sayanriju , ikonia: any idea what i need to put in my menu.lst?
[18:20] <ikonia> mobidroid: you're ubuntu boot options, kernel/initrd etc etc
[18:20] <joph> alanmm: why do you think, was that folder so big?
[18:21] <joph> did you even look into it before deleting?
[18:21] <alanmm> joph: no idea.. but it was empty
[18:21] <berserk_ren> also tried open source driver - but opsource drv is sucks... it wasnt workig for unknown reason
[18:21] <alanmm> joph: yes, was empty
[18:21] <mobidroid> ikonia that's the part I really don't know.. I just know its karmic koala :S
[18:21] <alanmm> joph: i don't understand why it went wrong
[18:22] <ikonia> mobidroid: mount your ubuntu partition, look at the /boot partition and get the kernel and initrd details from there
[18:22] <bartek> hmm
[18:22] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:22] <alanmm> im not supposed to be able to mess with files on this computer that im not allowed to i think because it's encrypted
[18:22] <bartek> which player is good to listen radio?
[18:22] <alanmm> so it shouldn't be messed up
[18:23] <mAriachi> bartek: Exaile
[18:23] <alanmm> not too badly anyway        :)
[18:23] <IdleOne> bartek: vlc works nice for me
[18:23] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:23] <bartek> ok, i'll try
[18:23] <mobidroid> ikonia: look http://pastebin.fr/6641 Iv'e put the listing of my ubuntu boot folder, is that what i need?
[18:23] <erpo> I want to simulate dialup speeds on my laptop when I'm surfing from my home broadband connection. I've tried traffic shaping with the tc command, but that only limits upstream speeds. Suggestions?
[18:23] <alanmm> joph: the total space available still shows as almost 100% so the files are still there somewhere
[18:24] <joph> alanmm: not every folder that looks empty to you at the first sight is really empty
[18:24] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:24] <alanmm> joph: ok
[18:24] <goog1jh> mAriachi: maybe there are two sound-devices in your box...
[18:24] <alanmm> joph: any possibility to reverse what i did?
[18:24] <ikonia> mobidroid: yes that has your kernels
[18:24] <mobidroid> ikonia: and wich one is the good one?!?!
[18:24] <mAriachi> googljh: i don't quite understand you
[18:24] <ikonia> mobidroid: that latest versions in /boot
[18:25] <mAriachi> googljh: which box?
[18:25] <joph> alanmm: okay they will be hidden in some . <- prefixed folders
[18:25] <alanmm> why would there be a folder that seems huge but not have any files in it be so important??
[18:25] <bartek> mAriachi, exaile works good :) thanks
[18:25] <goog1jh> your computer, mAriachi...
[18:25] <mobidroid> ok
[18:25] <alanmm> joph: there is a .cache but its empty
[18:25] <joph> like the ones in /home/yourusername
[18:25] <Wipster> If I am making a livecd and I need a customised kernel should I make the kernel in the livecd chroot? that means downloading all of the packages for compiling...
[18:25] <mAriachi> bartek: np anytime, anywhere
[18:25] <joph> alanmm: i dunno
[18:25] <alanmm> joph: ls /home/alanmm shows ., .. and .cache
[18:26] <alanmm> argh
[18:26] <alexande1> hi
[18:26] <alanmm> :,(
[18:26] <mAriachi> googljh: it's a notebok
[18:26] <mobidroid> ikonia: is the "root=UUID=" stuff usefull?!
[18:26] <joph> ikonia: can he reverse deleting the private folder?
[18:26] <goog1jh> mAriachi: check how many playback-devices you have..maybe every output got his own device?
[18:27] <ikonia> joph: pardon ?
[18:27] <alanmm> i didn't put annything in the private folder !!
[18:27] <ikonia> mobidroid: you can use that, but I'd just use device names at this time
[18:27] <mAriachi> googjlh: tried every combination, doesnt work
[18:27] <joph> alanmm: and do your applications still start?
[18:27] <alanmm> joph: i can't log in
[18:27] <alanmm> joph: except in the black screen
[18:28] <joph> alanmm: gimma an example of what application you have installed
[18:28] <alanmm> ehhh
[18:28] <alanmm> firefox
[18:28] <goog1jh> mAriachi: do you use alsa or oss?
[18:28] <naruto_pr0> hello, i upgard firfox 3.5.7 to 3.6, and i want get firefox 3.5.7 back, how can i do that ?
[18:28] <joph> ikonia: alanmm has deleted some directories and wants to know if he can undo that
[18:28] <joyce_> When I try this, I'm getting a regex could not be compiled error. Can some one plz tell me why? <FilesMatch  "(?<!(gif|jpeg|png|swf|ico|php))$">
[18:28] <mAriachi> googljh: i've got to the point of muting the headphones when they are plugged, but the speakers continue playing, if i dont mute the headphones, the headphones (external speakers) and internal speakers play at the same time
[18:28] <ikonia> joph: probably not
[18:28] <mAriachi> i have both
[18:28] <rafael_> hello i need to apply a patch to modem manager but when i try to get the source it says that the directory couldn't be found
[18:29] <mAriachi> googljh: i have both
[18:29] <mAriachi> googljh: realtek is the OSS, the other is Nvidia HDA Alsa
[18:29] <naruto_pr0> rafael_, sudo apt-get update
[18:29] <joph> alanmm: try it with "ls -a"
[18:29] <rafael_> if i update, do i get the patches?
[18:29] <mobidroid> ikonia: do you think it's this is ok : http://pastebin.fr/6642
[18:29] <alanmm> im gonna try leaving it switched off for a while
[18:29] <alanmm> joph: ., .., .cache
[18:30] <ouyes> finally, i installed ubuntu to my sd card sucessfully and now i am runing it .
[18:30] <alanmm> . .. .cache
[18:30] <naruto_pr0> rafael_, maybe just try it
[18:30] <ikonia> mobidroid: seems enough to boot it you'll need your root= linux too
[18:30] <joph> alanmm: "cd /home/alanmm" ... then ... "ls -a"
[18:30] <alanmm> same
[18:30] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:30] <alanmm> joph: same
[18:30] <mobidroid> ikonia: is root (hd0,1) enought?
[18:30] <Johnny_Smith_14> test
[18:31] <ikonia> mobidroid: no
[18:31] <mobidroid> ikonia: argg any idea how i find the root info?
[18:31] <joph> empty?
[18:31] <naruto_pr0> hello, i upgard firfox 3.5.7 to 3.6, and i want get firefox 3.5.7 back, how can i do that ?
[18:31] <ikonia> mobidroid: come on ???? you know what disk your root file system is on
[18:31] <e3co> any upstart experts in here?
[18:31] <ikonia> e3co: just ask the question
[18:32] <karma_police> whats the easiest way to only display linux and windows in grub dualboot/
[18:32] <ikonia> naruto_pr0: how did you upgrade it to 3.6 ?
[18:32] <ikonia> karma_police: remove the entries you don't want from the grub menu.lst
[18:32] <joph> alanmm: is it empty? is there another folder in /home/ ?
[18:32] <alanmm> joph: wtf. there is a whole bunch of stuff in ../.Private
[18:32] <alanmm> joph: yeah
[18:32] <ikonia> alanmm: please control your language
[18:32] <karma_police> i think i have grub2.. how do i get to the list?
[18:32] <alanmm> joph: /home/.Private
[18:32] <alanmm> and /home/.ecryptfs
[18:33] <ikonia> karma_police: look in /etc/grub
[18:33] <alanmm> ikonia: sos!
[18:33] <e3co> I am building a remix using debootstrap and on boot wont to run a script with some rdesktop switches in it. I don't want login to run. what do i modify since there is not inittab anymore
[18:33] <ouyes> karma_police,  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:33] <mAriachi> karma_police: if you want to remove older kernels, use the Synaptic to uninstall them
[18:33] <naruto_pr0> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[18:33] <e3co> wont=want
[18:33] <scunizi> karma_police: like ikonia said.. but the alternative is to just comment them out with #
[18:33] <joph> :)
[18:33] <[B]randon> Check out the newly created security website located @ http://www.nlsecurity.org/ email comments/questions/concerns to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thanks!
[18:33] <alanmm> joph: but not my files.. just random stuff
[18:33] <karma_police> i've removed the kernals.. just want to get rid of memtest and recovery
[18:33] <[B]randon> Check out the newly created security website located @ http://www.nlsecurity.org/ email comments/questions/concerns to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Thanks!
[18:33] <e3co> basically I am building a Terminal Server client for work
[18:33] <mobidroid> ikonia: hmmm well it's all on the same partition / disk?! I'm lost now
[18:34] <scunizi> karma_police: that's not a good idea
[18:34] <mAriachi> karma_police: edit the grub.cfg with su privileges
[18:34] <PorbsK> I'm havin a lot of probs with Kubuntu but I wish to continue with it so is anyone able t configure their PPPoE broadband with Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:34] <ouyes> how to remove the old kernel since a update
[18:34] <alanmm> joph: /home/alanmm/.ecryptfs/alanm/private etc etc
[18:34] <alanmm> arggggggggg
[18:34] <joph> alanmm: can't you log in to X?
[18:34] <karma_police> i may just comment them out
[18:34]  * matelot I want to install a software and here is my questioin: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168931/
[18:34] <mAriachi> karma_police: i wouldt suggest it either, memtest is a needy and powerful tool
[18:34] <ikonia> mobidroid: root for mandriva is not on the same partition as ubuntu
[18:34] <ikonia> mobidroid: look at the entries in /etc/grub on your ubuntu partition
[18:34] <karma_police> may just leave it alone then :)
[18:34] <mAriachi> ouyes: use the Synaptic to uninstall them
[18:35] <alanmm> joph: if X is the desktop then no, i can't.. just goes to the login window again. i can login when i go to ctrl alt f1
[18:35] <karma_police> was just trying to clean up the grub menu a bit
[18:35] <joph> alanmm: did you find it?
[18:35] <alanmm> joph: find what?
[18:35] <mAriachi> ouyes: just type in the name of the kernel you want removed and uninstall them
[18:35] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:36] <trism> karma_police: if you just want to remove memtest from the menu but leave it installed you can just sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+; sudo update-grub;
[18:36] <e3co>  I am building a remix using debootstrap and on boot want to run a script with some rdesktop switches in it. I don't want login to run. what do i modify since there is no inittab anymore? I am building a terminal server client for work.
[18:36] <Wipster> if I am making a livecd and I need to run a customised kernel do I need to build it in the chroot or elsewhere? my cd size ends up huge
[18:36] <ouyes> mAriachi,  ok il try , i think you way will do
[18:36] <ikonia> Wipster: custom kernels are not supported
[18:36] <mAriachi> ouyes: yep, it's the way I did it :D
[18:37] <Wipster> ikonia, yeh I know but is that how you would build it? its the process I'm having issue with
[18:38] <ikonia> Wipster: within the chrooot
[18:38] <joph> alanmm: find your files
[18:38] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[18:38] <joph> afk
[18:38] <PorbsK> Should I remove Kubuntu and install Ubuntu ? I'm having network probs with Kubuntu :(
[18:38] <kudo> ciao
[18:39] <Wipster> ikonia, ok thanks is there a way I can aptitude purge all modules installed to be able to compile the kernel once its done? or will I have to write them all down?
[18:39] <ouyes> mAriachi,  but i am wandering if there are any problem to have two kernels at the same time ?
[18:39] <mAriachi> porbsk: that will not solve your problems, they run on the same core, only the desktop is different, Kubuntu uses KDE desktop environment, Ubuntu uses GNOME
[18:39] <alanmm> joph: nope :(
[18:39] <ikonia> Wipster: remove them manually
[18:39] <alanmm> joph: i think this problem is more complex than i can handel
[18:40] <jolaren23> how do I ssh within the local area network?
[18:40] <mAriachi> ouyes: none whatsoever, it's just to remove them if you think your grub menu is crowded
[18:40] <mobidroid> ikonia: howww I think i understand what you mean, my grub config is not just the 4 lines on pastebin I only add those 4 lines all the mandriva config stuff is still there is this why you say there is missing stuff?
[18:40] <alanmm> joph: i might get my work laptop "stolen" or "dropped accidentally" :/
[18:40] <ikonia> mobidroid: sounds good
[18:40] <Wipster> ikonia, ouch - ok thanks for your help I'l see how I get on
[18:40] <ouyes> in the gparted there is a manage flag, what is it ?
[18:40] <ikonia> Wipster: sorry
[18:40] <Tm_T> jolaren23: "ssh computername" ?
[18:41] <jolaren23> hm ok will try that
[18:41] <mAriachi> porbsk: what kind of network problems are you experiencing?
[18:41] <PorbsK> So is there3 no way to make PPPoE work and start my Net ? I remember ubuntu 8.10 being able to connect PPPoE with SLIP config without any extra need
[18:41] <JJR> hi room
[18:41] <the_real_dave> !hi | JJR
[18:41] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yep i delete some of the entries related to an old kernel in the grub file
[18:41] <JJR> ")
[18:42] <JJR> got a little problem here configurating my display....
[18:42] <mAriachi> porbsk: you need to edit the network connection, right click then properties on the network manager applet, then go to wired, and edit the credentials
[18:42] <JJR> anyone willning to help
[18:42] <mAriachi> JJR: just ask your question
[18:42] <barf> Noen i BIOS avdelingen her?
[18:42] <barf> Jeg har en PC som er helt ny
[18:42] <alanmm> PorbsK: i had problem with kubuntu before with the network and it worked fine with the same ubuntu but without the k :)
[18:43] <JJR> well when i open "configure display" meny is empty
[18:43] <barf> Den kan kun boote fra SATA HDD og IDE CDROM, jeg prøver å boote den fra Memory Stick, og SATA CDROM men det funker ikke
[18:43] <JJR> also in my x11.conf file there is nothing
[18:43] <mAriachi> JJR: have you installed the drivers?
[18:43] <zob> barf think you should ask norwegian or danish questions in corresponding forums
[18:43] <alanmm> barf: ta det på svenska / dansk / norsk kanalen
[18:43] <ADjames> whats a good open source software to monitor a server's hardware load from a windows machine on an offsite location?
[18:43] <JJR> well i have intel 4500m card and as far as i know drivers came w/ karnell
[18:43] <alanmm> barf: danks i gues
[18:44] <PorbsK> I did all things I confiugre DSL settings in Kubuntu then configured KPPP too but it just don't find the network
[18:44] <JJR> im w/ <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:44] <mAriachi> JJR: go to system, then to Hardware drivers, and see whether or not you have some drivers to install
[18:44] <JJR> well
[18:44] <alanmm> #ubuntu.dk
[18:44] <mAriachi> porbsk: write the nickname of the person you are reffering to first
[18:44] <JJR> it says that i have everything
[18:44] <mAriachi> JJR: write the nickname before anything else
[18:44] <alanmm> PorbsK: it's plugged in? ;)
[18:45] <mAriachi> JJR: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[18:45] <Ferris-> is there a way to upgrade from jaunty to karmic like i did intrepid to jaunty last night?
[18:45] <JJR> intel 4500m
[18:45] <alanmm> joph: i am screwed then right?
[18:45] <PorbsK> I m kinda sure but Idk the icon for plugged in it shows the icon of network adpter with a cable
[18:46] <e3co> I would like to know how to modify upstart so that instead of the user seeing a login: prompt my script is automatically loaded (rrdesktop)(revisedrdesktop) and the user is brought off a live cd to my terminal server.
[18:46] <PorbsK> alanmm: I m kinda sure but Idk the icon for plugged in it shows the icon of network adpter with a cable
[18:46] <jolaren23> is it possible to scan ssh within lan?
[18:46] <JJR> mAriachi : i have intel 4500m
[18:46] <mobidroid> ikonia: just to be sure before i reboot can you double check my grub conf: http://pastebin.fr/6643
[18:46] <alanmm> PorbsK: like, look at the cable.. is it connected to the computer or not? :)
[18:46] <mAriachi> ferris- yes there is: sudo update-manager -d
[18:46] <LuizAquino> Hi everyone. Does Ubuntu comes, by default, with some GUI tools to see our hardware? Before Ubuntu 8.04 I used gnome-device-manager.
[18:47] <ouyes> i can copy files to an ext4 external hard disk
[18:47] <PorbsK> Yes if it wasnt how do connect the net in windows
[18:47] <Ferris-> thank you mAriachi
[18:47] <ouyes> i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk
[18:47] <alanmm> omg i am so dead on monday.. trashed my linux computer which isn't supposed to be possible according it internal it
[18:47] <ouyes> i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk, why?
[18:47] <alanmm> HOW CAN THIS HAPPPEN?
[18:47] <mAriachi> JJR: open terminal, sudo apt-get install xsever-xorg-intel-video
[18:47] <PorbsK> alanmm:Yes if it wasnt how do connect the net in windows
[18:47] <mAriachi> ferris: np
[18:47] <JJR> mariachi: ok
[18:48] <paulus68> how do I configure Irssi in order to auto connect to the server and for which user?
[18:48] <jolaren23> Does anyone know if it is possible to scan after ssh servers in my network?
[18:49] <IdleOne> paulus68: #irssi should be able to help with that
[18:49] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: scan to find all ssh servers, or just ping an IP?
[18:49] <ouyes> hi does anybody know this?  i can not copy files to an ext4 external hard disk, why? also when you in that partition right click the mouser there is no creat folder option
[18:49] <jolaren23> the_real_dave; My htpc is setup with ssh but I don't know how to find it
[18:49] <vita> Hi
[18:50] <joph> alanmm: i'm back
[18:50] <PorbsK> alanmm: I have 2 network devices one plugged with cable other is unused.they hsow up in Kubuntu eth0 and eth1 eth0 has an icon with cable in some box
[18:50] <vita> I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists
[18:50] <mAriachi> ouyes: right click the drive and go to permissions, do you have read and write permissions? by you, i mean your user name
[18:50] <e3co> livecd question  / if I add a rc.local to /etc/skel/rc.local  will the live user "ubuntu" automatically run anything i put in there?
[18:51] <paulus68> IdleOne: thanks
[18:51] <joph> alanmm: your apt-get is still working right?
[18:51] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: You should be able to go into your router's settings and find the local IP addresses. Try going to <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> in your browser
[18:51] <ouyes> mAriachi,  it says root
[18:51] <vita> I guess that there is something more to configure. But I fail to find it. Any ideas?
[18:51] <sunrunner20> does ubuntu auto detect hardware changes each time at boot?
[18:51] <sakthivel> hi..my desktop doesnot connect internet after logout or suspend.. why
[18:51] <ouyes> mAriachi,  what can do with this?
[18:51] <jolaren23> the_real_dave; I have a switch
[18:51] <mAriachi> ouyes: try with a different file browser from root
[18:51] <the_real_dave> ouyes: post the output of sudo fdisk -l
[18:52] <mAriachi> ouyes: sudo nautilus
[18:52] <sunrunner20> sakthivel: have you tried restarting the interface?
[18:52] <berserk_ren> what's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver ? =}
[18:52] <mkquist> ouyes: try opening nautilus with sudo and change the permissions
[18:52] <sakthivel> restarting no problem ,, it will connect internet...
[18:52] <sunrunner20> or looking at ipconfig (or ifconfig i get them confused)
[18:52] <mAriachi> ouyes: you need to take ownership of the drive and the files, in other words to change permissions, i dont quite remeber the command, gimme a sec
[18:52] <JJR> mAriachi: well it says "Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-intel-video"
[18:52] <PorbsK> Someone just reconfirm this will work in Kubuntu "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf" and "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[18:53] <sunrunner20> sakthivel: not the whole machine, just the interface (or did you phrase that weirdly)
[18:53] <Dimitrius> Boa tarde
[18:53] <mAriachi> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:53] <PorbsK> I'll just restart and try and call it a day
[18:53] <mAriachi> JJR: try this then
[18:53] <the_real_dave> ouyes: you want to use a command like sudo chmod -Rv 777 /media/xxx to change the permissions of your drive to be read by everyone
[18:53] <berserk_ren> what's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver ? =}
[18:53] <mAriachi> JJR: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[18:54] <sakthivel> i think ubuntu doenot connect internet after logout and login
[18:54] <Dimitrius> Algum brasileiro?
[18:54] <mAriachi> ouyes: that's the command, what the real dave said
[18:54] <mAriachi> ouyes: but first try with nautilus
[18:54] <JJR> mAriachi :well i heve already the newest version of the drivers
[18:54] <ouyes> mAriachi, mkquist  the_real_dave  thanks
[18:54] <vita> I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists
[18:54] <Wind0pain> what's an ISO burner for ubuntu?
[18:55] <PorbsK>  Someone just reconfirm this will work in Kubuntu "sudo apt-get install pppoeconf" and "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[18:55] <LuizAquino> Ubuntu 9.04 doesn't come with gnome-device-manager. Is there some another GUI tool, by default, to know our hardware?
[18:55] <the_real_dave> ouyes: using nautilus as root will not solve the problem, the files copied there will then be owned by root. Its much better to use the above command to change the permissions and write the files as your user
[18:55] <JJR> mAriachi: i thing the problem i s in my x11-conf fire , when i open it it say only defout card defout monitor and not mine
[18:55] <mAriachi> JJR: don't know anything else you can do then, appart from downloading a custom xorg.cfg for you
[18:55] <sakthivel> normally ubuntu is autodetecting internet when my computer. during logout and login it wil not resume
[18:55] <berserk_ren> what's better for Radeon 9200 SE ? Is it open source driver or fglrx driver in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:55] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: I'm guessing you cant hook up a monitor?
[18:56] <JJR> mAriachi :ok thanks pall
[18:56] <PorbsK> Thanks for all the help have a nice day :D
[18:56] <jolaren23> the_real_dave; I guess I could, would be easier the other way around thought.. but sure
[18:56] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: if you can, use the command ifconfig to see your IP address, presuming your using linux that is
[18:56] <mAriachi> JJR: np dude, anytime
[18:57] <azerty3> hi ther
[18:57] <LuizAquino> Dimitrius: Yes, I am.
[18:57] <JJR> any one how to create custom x11.conf with mine graphic card,monitor, etc. ....?
[18:57] <mAriachi> azerty3: just post a question, dude
[18:57] <mAriachi> azerty3: hi
[18:57] <Dimitrius> Algum brasileiro ai?
[18:57] <azerty3> i need this pakage deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main for ubuntu 9.10 how to get it ?
[18:58] <LuizAquino> Dimitrius: Me! :)
[18:58] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: you could try pinging all the addresses starting from 1?
[18:58] <mAriachi> azerty3: change the feisty-commercial with karmic
[18:58] <the_real_dave> jolaren23: but that would be quite some effort
[18:58] <vita>  I have problem. Whenever I want to generate ssh key with empty password, ssh-keygen generates key with password from login. I had a look at  /etc/ssh/sshd_config and found there parameter "Permitemptypassword no". I changed it to "yes", but problem persists
[18:58] <ouyes> mAriachi,  your way is the easiest and also works thanks
[18:59] <mAriachi> ouyes: np dude, but i think you should consider changing the permissions, and taking ownership of the files :D
[18:59] <azerty3> you mean this ? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu karmic-commercial main
[18:59] <chowder> anyone try lucid? I'm having some problems with locales. I tried dpkg-reconfigure localeconf but I get an error message saying that it isn't installed. I try to install localeconf but its not in the repos. Anyone else encounter this problem?
[18:59] <LuizAquino> azerty3: You can add this repository in your list: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories
[18:59] <mAriachi> azerty3: exactly
[18:59] <ouyes> mAriachi,  but there is some warnings came out
[18:59] <IdleOne> chowder: #ubuntu+1 for lucid support
[18:59] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[18:59] <mAriachi> ouyes: right click the drive while in nautilus
[19:00] <mAriachi> ouyes: go to properties
[19:00] <berserk_ren> open source driver doesnt help... nintendo DS emulator running games very slow T_T
[19:00] <the_real_dave> ouyes: using sudo nautilus will not be persistant, you'll have to use that everytime. Your much better off to take ownership of the files
[19:00] <mAriachi> ouyes: permisions
[19:00] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yes  i changed that ,by the porperties and its permission
[19:00] <azerty3> no not working
[19:00] <mAriachi> ouyes: then change the permissions
[19:00] <azerty3> it give this E: Couldn't find package deb
[19:00] <kvaps> \join ubuntu-ru
[19:00] <kvaps> упс =)
[19:00] <mAriachi> azerty3: you need to add the package source in the software sources
[19:00] <IdleOne> azerty3: what are you trying to install?
[19:00] <mAriachi> azerty3: not in termianl
[19:01] <azerty3> LuizAquino:  doing it synaptics it give lots of result, i dont know what to choose ?
[19:01] <azerty3> i try to install freepbx
[19:01] <ouyes> mAriachi, i just specify the name of me instead root
[19:01] <LuizAquino> azerty3: Just a minute...
[19:01] <ouyes> mAriachi,  is that changing the permission for ever?
[19:01] <mAriachi> ouyes: your name should have read&write permissions
[19:01] <LuizAquino> azerty3: See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[19:02] <the_real_dave> ouyes: any files written after that will be owned by those who wrote them :)
[19:02] <ouyes> mAriachi,  never mind it is in a group, so he has the group's permission
[19:02] <LuizAquino> azerty3: Another source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:02] <Rubber_> Bof
[19:03] <Rubber_> y a des francais ?
[19:03] <IdleOne> !fr | Rubber_
[19:03] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  if i go to mount it on another pc?
[19:03] <Rubber_> bien ubottu
[19:03] <ouyes> the_real_dave, even  if i go to mount it on another pc?
[19:03] <mAriachi> ouyes: you will need to open nautilus again
[19:03] <azerty3> c'est super ubuntu
[19:03] <mAriachi> ouyes: do the chmod in terminal
[19:03] <Rubber_> azerty arrete ...
[19:04] <ouyes> mAriachi,  ok
[19:04] <azerty3> thx a lot my friend LuizAquino
[19:04] <Rubber_> j arrive plus a rien l asp passe pas
[19:04] <azerty3> i understand it
[19:04] <LuizAquino> azerty3: You're welcome. :)
[19:04] <sunrunner20> berserk_ren: DS emulation isn't exactly fast or good... period
[19:04] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Yup. If you wrote the file as one user, it stays as that user. Then again, you can always change the permissions from the other computer too
[19:05] <e3co> nevermind .. I figured it out.
[19:05] <Rubber_> ubuntu  fr on fait commernt mon irc est plus a jour
[19:05] <berserk_ren> sunrunner20, it's not specially DS, some other games is slow to... those with openGL =|
[19:05] <ramiro> how do I install a package to some other --prefix? (that would be the equivalent of "make DESTDIR=myprefix install"). I don't need any prerm or postinst to run, I just need the files the package gives me
[19:05] <mAriachi> !Македонија 4евер!
[19:05] <Rubber_> la commande
[19:05] <IdleOne> Rubber_: tape /join Z#ubuntu-fr
[19:05] <IdleOne> -Z
[19:05] <Rubber_> idleone
[19:05] <Rubber_> te mon sauveur
[19:05] <IdleOne> de rien.
[19:05] <berserk_ren> ill try fglrx ...
[19:06] <Rubber_> Z ?
[19:06] <Audible> whats the "best" html editor in ubuntu current? dont answer vim or nano ;)
[19:06] <IdleOne> sans le Z
[19:06] <Rubber_> lool
[19:06] <the_real_dave> ouyes: I would advise using chmod to recursively change the files to allow them to be accessed by anyone, if your using the drive one other computers
[19:06] <ramiro> Audible: kate
[19:06] <Rubber_> trop fort
[19:06] <Rubber_> un jour je serais enfant
[19:06] <T-b0b> Audible: quanta
[19:06] <bala> in my linux sound s not coming... some 1 help me...
[19:06] <berserk_ren> bala,  wich soundcard?
[19:06] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  i did it already , thanks mate
[19:07] <rafael_> ok, i tried to patch modemmanager but i got the error permission denied
[19:07] <vita> Could someone help me how to report bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ ?  In earlier version, there was button "Report bug," Not it is missing and I feel like in maze. Whenever I move to, I get nowhere.
[19:07] <Agnul> hi
[19:07] <ouyes> mAriachi,  thanks
[19:07] <ramiro> bala: are the speakers powered on and plugged in to your computer?
[19:07] <Rubber_> ça passe pas
[19:07] <mAriachi> ouyes: can you copy to and from the drive now?
[19:07] <IdleOne> !bug | vita
[19:07] <the_real_dave> ouyes: no worries :)
[19:07] <mAriachi> ouyes: np, anytime
[19:07] <vita> !bug
[19:07] <Rubber_> le "/join ubuntu.fré
[19:07] <Rubber_> oups
[19:07] <bala> yes ramiro
[19:07] <IdleOne> Rubber_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:07] <vita> IdleOne: thanks
[19:08] <mAriachi> Rubber_: this is not a chat channel: please do not flood
[19:08] <Rubber_> idleone
[19:08] <Rubber_> je colle ta reponse
[19:08] <bala> in windows sound is coming... ramiro
[19:08] <ouyes> mAriachi, i am copying  now
[19:08] <erdemoztrk> hello there
[19:08] <erdemoztrk> Does anyone using Bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?
[19:08] <mAriachi> bala: which soundcard do you have?
[19:08] <JJR> how properly to edint my x11.conf file accorting my confugoration...? anyone willling to help me
[19:09] <Rubber_> lool Idleone
[19:09] <Rubber_> personne mle calcule
[19:09] <Rubber_> la bas
[19:09] <ouyes> the_real_dave, mAriachi ,how can i mount a ext4 in windows? i am worried somebody would see my ext4 partition
[19:09] <bala> i dont know... how to check it??? mariachi
[19:09] <Rubber_> J aurais du faire englais
[19:09] <rafael_> i tried to patch modem manager but i got permission denied error
[19:09] <ramiro> ouyes: anyone with physical acces to your computer cn see your ext4 partition
[19:10] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont think that it is possible, maybe with some update to windows
[19:10] <mAriachi> bala: aplay -l in a termnial
[19:10] <erdemoztrk> Does anyone using Bittorrent-5.3-GPL here?
[19:10] <Rubber_> CE KOI FREENODE ?
[19:10] <mAriachi> kick Rubber_ please
[19:10] <ramiro> ouyes: unless you encrypt your files, there's no way to prevent someone with physical access to your computer to read everything you have. the only way is to make sure that person is dumb and incapable of googling =)
[19:11] <ardchoille> !french | Rubber_
[19:11] <ouyes> ramiro,  but you insert the hd under windows ,it is not be found or recognized by the OS
[19:11] <Rubber_> mariachi on taqime l aim espingouin
[19:11] <IdleOne> mAriachi: why?
[19:11] <the_real_dave> ouyes: you cant. You can mount ext3 in Windows, but its much safer to use NTFS on your external harddrive, Linux plays much nicer with NTFS than WIndows does with ext ;)
[19:11] <Rubber_> l ami
[19:11] <greenjellow> hellow
[19:11] <Rubber_> ubottu ce l enbfer la bas
[19:11] <ardchoille> Rubber_:  ce channelis anglais seulement. S'il vous plaît aller à # ubuntu-fr
[19:11] <mAriachi> IdleOne: flooding and speaking french on an english channel
[19:11] <greenjellow> hello?
[19:12] <IdleOne> Rubber_: svp, parle en anglais dans ce canal.
[19:12] <mAriachi> greenjellow: just state your issue dude :D
[19:12] <greenjellow> cool :)
[19:12] <IdleOne> mAriachi: he is having issues joining the french channel.
[19:12] <Rubber_> i ll bze back idleone
[19:12] <ramiro> ouyes: so? the files are there anyways. even using a hex editor you will be able to see them. more sophysticated programs will be able to mount it on windows just like another drive
[19:12] <greenjellow> it's with the ps3
[19:12] <akaedu> xubuntu
[19:12] <greenjellow> ubuntu
[19:12] <mAriachi> greenjellow: spare the pleasantries xD
[19:12] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  no mate ,most of my personal time i am under ubuntu
[19:13] <greenjellow> petitboote freezes when i boot linux
[19:13] <grey> I kinda deleted my boot sector my laptop... Is there a way to kind of make a live CD only to install GRUB?
[19:13] <greenjellow> no idea why i think it has to do with the kernel
[19:13] <ouyes> ramiro,  i see ,truecrypt
[19:13] <bala> mariachi... card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:13] <bala> card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevices: 1/1
[19:13] <bala>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:13] <mAriachi> greenjellow: dont have alot of experience on the subject
[19:13] <FloodBot4> bala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <mAriachi> bala so it's an intel
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> anyone gotton firefox-3.6 from the Mozilla PPA to work in the last 2 days?
[19:13] <bala> yup
[19:13] <mAriachi> bala: have you installed the restricted extras?
[19:13] <ouyes> ramiro,  the_real_dave  il use truecrypt to encrypt sensitive data
[19:13] <greenjellow> o ok
[19:14] <bala> no
[19:14] <ramiro> ouyes: I've never used truecrypt, but if that does what the name says, it should be ok =)
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: do this in a terminal
[19:14] <Rubber_> y a un salon en francais ?
[19:14] <bala> k
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: sudo apt-get install ubuntu_restricted_extras
[19:14] <akaedu> how can let xubuntu mount wind disk , start up
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: sry
[19:14] <the_real_dave> ouyes: ok. It is easier though to change it to NTFS when the drive is empty then full though ;) As for what's being said about access to your data, yes, all users can access it, but its an external drive so that's pretty much what you want. Truecrypt is a good idea for sensitive stuff, its good :) But either way, WIndows cant read ext lol :D
[19:14] <ouyes> ramiro,  what do you use to protect your data
[19:14] <IdleOne> Rubber_: oui. #ubuntu-fr
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: mistake
[19:14] <Rubber_> Idleone j ai essayé
[19:14] <mAriachi> bala: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:15] <bala> wat mistake??
[19:15] <ramiro> ouyes: I don't protect any of it...
[19:15] <bala> kk
[19:15] <Rubber_> y a 6 clampins
[19:15] <mAriachi> ouyes:
[19:15] <Rubber_> pire que sur bds
[19:15] <sakthivel> anybody know , why ubuntu doesnot connect internet during logout and login or suspend ..
[19:15] <mAriachi> ouyes: do you use the drive on windows and linux comps?
[19:16] <mAriachi> ouyes: if so, i would suggest making it an NTFS type
[19:16] <macman_> guys i have a quewtion .. so im using one of those ide to usb things right .. it has sata everything on it .. when i plug it in ubuntu it dosen't get recognized .. if i reboot and boot into windows it recognizes .. so short story why does my hdd's work in windows and not ubuntu
[19:16] <greenjellow> is there  way to update the kernel automatically
[19:16] <joshua> hello
[19:16] <dane> hey
[19:16] <the_real_dave> !hi | joshua dane
[19:16] <mAriachi> greenjellow: the update manager will inform you if there is a new kernel
[19:16] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yes i divide the hard drive into two partitions one is ntfs one is ext4 hoping ext4 would not be seen under windows and so protect my data
[19:16] <Talon_> Ubuntu 9.10 is not finding all my SATA drives.
[19:17] <greenjellow> ok
[19:17] <sakthivel>  anybody know , why ubuntu doesnot connect internet during logout and login or suspend .
[19:17] <greenjellow> thanks
[19:17] <mAriachi> ouyes: good move, if you dont need the partition ext4 under windows
[19:17] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: A wireless connection? If so, probably Network-Manager's fault
[19:17] <sakthivel> i am using ethernet connection
[19:18] <mAriachi> sakthivel: just unplug and plug your cable and it should be fine
[19:18] <sshc> svn: command not found
[19:18] <sshc> I install the svn package
[19:18] <mAriachi>  hello, internal speakers dont stop when plugin in headphones, help?
[19:18] <greenjellow> i fixed the problem mAriacchi :) thanks
[19:18] <IdleOne> !register | Rubber_
[19:18] <ioka> guys would you please tell me how do I cp a directory
[19:19] <sakthivel> i tried unplug  no use,, only restart or powerof only working
[19:19] <the_real_dave> ouyes: I would depend on the fact that ext4 cant be read n WIndow to protect your data. If someone wants to get to it, there are ways around it probably. They could always just hook it up to a linux pc and have full control. Truecrypt though will actually encrypt your data and protect it
[19:19] <Dwight1> I'm new. Does anybody know how to install w_scan-20091230 on 9.10? the one in synaptic is out of date and doesn't work properly.
[19:19] <sshc> what do I need to install in order to use the svn command?
[19:19] <infid> svn
[19:19] <Talon_> I have 3 sata drives plugged into my motherboard, two of which are burners.. one is a hard drive.. windows see's them all.. ubuntu 9.10 just sees the burners, any clue why?
[19:19] <sshc> infid: I did install svn
[19:20] <infid> sshc from apache you need to apt get libapache2-svn too
[19:20] <sshc> infid: ok, thanks!
[19:20] <mAriachi> Talon_: it sees the hard drive aswell, dont worry, if you cant access it, then it is probably not mounted, install pysdm to help you
[19:20] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  there is few people around me(in my life cycle or work place) using linux
[19:21] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry about encrypting when you have ext4
[19:21] <Talon_> its not a /dev/sd choice... I can't mount it with mount cause its not there
[19:21] <Talon_> i got /sda and /sdb which are my two ide drives
[19:21] <Talon_> thats it
[19:21] <the_real_dave> ioka: use the recursive option, -R
[19:21] <mAriachi> talon_: sda is the first drive
[19:22] <mAriachi> talon_: sdb is the second
[19:22] <infid> on my host i changed 'PasswordAuthentication' and 'UsePAM' to 'no' in sshd_config to disable password logins from clients, which works, but now i can't ssh FROM my host to other places anymore. any idea why? it says 'permission denied (publickey,password)'
[19:22] <Talon_> i should have a sdc
[19:22] <Talon_> but its not there
[19:22] <VanDyke> can anyone here read chinese? if so, plz /msg me
[19:22] <apanda> i'd like to use ubuntu on an old amd k6-2/400 mhz but i cant find out which versions still support that. the newer one's dont because the new linux kernels dont support that processor any longer. i have tried 8.04 ubuntu and xubuntu live with no success
[19:22] <mAriachi> talon_: you have 3 hard drives?
[19:22] <ouyes> mAriachi,  the_real_dave , and i installed ubuntu to my TF card and i am runing it. ubuntu is amazing
[19:22] <Talon_> yes
[19:22] <the_real_dave> ouyes: fair enough, just so long as your aware that it won't protect your data from anyone determined enough ;) TF card?
[19:23] <VanDyke> apanda, get an older version, probably 6.-ish
[19:23] <mAriachi> ouyes: good job dude! if you want to use it properly, you need to apply more usable space while creating it
[19:23] <Talon_> two ide drives, which are both recognised, and 3 sata drives, 1 hdd and two dvd burners
[19:23] <apanda> yeah VanDyke i've tried to get 6.x but i couldnt find a desktop iso of that one any longer because its no longer supported ;)
[19:23] <Talon_> everythings found but my sata hdd
[19:23] <mAriachi> talon_: try reconnecting
[19:24] <mAriachi> talon_: and installing pysdm
[19:24] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  yes a 8GB TF card( a usb storge micro sd)
[19:24] <sakthivel> which is best linux ubuntu/suse/debian or etc
[19:24] <Talon_> what is pysdm
[19:24] <philipwn> how to find which process is using my soundcard?
[19:24] <infid> sakthivel: this isn't politics, there is no best
[19:24] <chuckf> sakthivel: you'll get a biased answer here
[19:24] <apanda> lies, the best is etc
[19:24] <VanDyke> apanda, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06.2/
[19:24] <mAriachi> sakthivel: get your info right, ubuntu is based on debian :D
[19:24] <VanDyke> it's the server LTS, but works just as well
[19:24] <Talon_> pysdm installed
[19:25] <apanda> VanDyke, thanks but thats server only 6.x :)
[19:25] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Lol nice one :) Enjoy learning more Ubuntu :D
[19:25] <osotogari> Anyone have the fn keys working in unbuntu 9.10 on a samsung n510?
[19:25] <mAriachi> talon_: now run it in terminal, sudo pysdm
[19:25] <ouyes> mAriachi,  the_real_dave  i installed everything that i need,and it work as fine as it were installed in the hard driver
[19:25] <VanDyke> apanda, but it works just the same
[19:25] <mAriachi> ouyes: yep, ubuntu rocks :D
[19:25] <Talon_> shows sda, and sdb, no sdc
[19:25] <zaka> zaka
[19:25] <apanda> ah ok VanDyke, but it's no live cd, right?
[19:26] <matan_> hi all
[19:26] <salat> hey...why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html
[19:26] <VanDyke> apanda, no
[19:26] <alienjeff> o/ matan_
[19:26] <VanDyke> apanda, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[19:26] <the_real_dave> ouyes: the one thing to be aware of is your swap partition. Seeing as that's a flash drive, with a limited number of read and writes, having your swap on the flash card can lower its life span
[19:26] <apanda> wee :) thanks VanDyke :D
[19:26] <VanDyke> that's a live cd
[19:26] <mAriachi> talon_: is your SATA hard drive connected properly? if so, try disconecting one of the burners and conencting the hard drive to the burners cable
[19:27] <matan_> yes?
[19:27] <Talon_> yes, windows sees the drive just fine
[19:27] <houms> has anyone used FOG on ubuntu before?
[19:27] <matan_> i have problem with gamepad
[19:27] <rafael_> how long does it takes to apply a patch?
[19:28] <mAriachi> rafael_ depends on your conf, and bandwidth
[19:28] <houms> or better question does anyone know php pretty well?
[19:28] <Talon_> i know its there and works fine, windows sees it, i can play my music its my music drive, i boot linux.. its gone
[19:28] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  but also i can not delete the swap partition
[19:28] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont do that
[19:28] <infid> homus what about php
[19:28] <rafael_> mAriachi so, it's normal for it to take like half hour o more?
[19:29] <mAriachi> ouyes: it'll be fine with the swap
[19:29] <salat> someone with network knowledge please query me=C
[19:29] <mAriachi> rafael_ if you have a slow bandwidth, yes
[19:29] <houms> i installed fog and when i go to upload image it goes hrough process but then throughs a cannot move and references a php file
[19:29] <infid> salat im sure everyone in here has network knowledge
[19:29] <sakthivel> i am a new ubuntu user.. i am using both windwos and ubuntu.. i feel ubuntu gnome disply graphics is not so good compare to windows.. if i install kde.. my system is going very slow..
[19:29] <ouyes> the_real_dave, but the system hardly use the swap space a few Mb
[19:29] <houms> i have looked at the file and line reference and see what it is referencing but have no way of know how to fix it
[19:30] <salat> infid..but they dont answer=C
[19:30] <Talon_> ive removed dmraid, rebooted, not there, re-installed dmraid, rebooted, not there... no matter what linux doesnt see it.. it didnt even see it on the livecd
[19:30] <mAriachi> sakthivel: you need to install compiz config to get the most out of gnome
[19:30] <ouyes> mAriachi, yep, it is a little slow than that installed in the hd
[19:30] <mAriachi> sakthivel: KDE is alot more memory hungry
[19:31] <the_real_dave> ouyes: even a few Mb is still accessing the drive. You'll probably be fine, you'll break/lose/wipe Ubuntu off the card before you reach the maximum number of read-writes l)
[19:31] <rafael_> mAriachi is it normal for the terminal to not give any outputs when i put the patch command?
[19:31] <sakthivel> compiz is not working my pc
[19:31] <mAriachi> sakthivel: if you want a simple, fast and not memory hogging, install xfce
[19:31] <salat> why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html
[19:31] <mAriachi> rafael_: patch for what?
[19:31] <rafael_> for modem manager
[19:32] <mAriachi> sakthivel: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:32] <sakthivel> ok.. but i like gnome.. can i get any themes to change my desktop graphics
[19:32] <mAriachi> sakthivel: yep, gazillions of them
[19:32] <mAriachi> just google for themes
[19:32] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  how many time does i have before it is damaged?
[19:33] <newguy2010> OK I am a serious noob here...yesterday I was using Linux Mint Helena and adoobe acrobat player worked fine.  Today I am using straight ubuntu 9.10 and cannot get my cd to play in  adobe player any suggestions?
[19:33] <houms> the file references line 133
[19:33] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry about damaging, the swap will only be used if theres not enough RAM on your pc, so your fine
[19:33] <sakthivel> i feel my desktop ubuntu doestnot support grphics. how do i install driver for grahics
[19:33] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: you might just need certain drivers. what graphics card have you?
[19:33] <houms> and its http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/361470/
[19:33] <houms> greping for srcdd in that same file produces two lines
[19:33] <sakthivel> my desktop is ibm duron 850
[19:33] <newguy2010> Help with Ubuntu 9.10 and adobe plyer
[19:33] <houms> the one seen on line 133 and this one
[19:33] <houms> $srcdd = $uploaddir . $mac;
[19:34] <ouyes> mAriachi,  i agree with you ,but it seems we are wrong
[19:34] <sakthivel> amd process
[19:34] <rafael_> mAriachi patch for modem manager
[19:34] <the_real_dave> ouyes: millions mate, don't worry about it :) You'll be fine,
[19:34] <mAriachi> sakthivel: you should deffinetly consider xfce desktop
[19:34] <mAriachi> sakthivel: its great for older conf
[19:34] <sakthivel> ok
[19:34] <the_real_dave> ouyes: it was much more lethal with older flash drives
[19:35] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: for a very light Ubuntu based distro, try Crunchbang. Faster and Lighter than Xubuntu
[19:35] <sakthivel> where can i find the driver for IBM amd  duron 850 system
[19:35] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry, i am still using an MMC from my first phone, i have ubuntu 9.10 on it, never gave me a problem, these things are bulletproof
[19:35] <Talon_> any ideas why windows sees the drive and linux cant
[19:35] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: go to system > administration > restricted drivers.
[19:35] <mAriachi> ouyes: one of the reasons why they come with a 5 or more year guarantee
[19:35] <zagabar> 3~
[19:36] <Rubber_> i m french
[19:36] <sakthivel> ok what abt Crunchbang is it also ubuntu
[19:36] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: that will show if you need drivers or not
[19:36] <mAriachi> sakthivel: or try puppy linux, dely linux or other small distro's
[19:36] <salat> why does ubuntu set eth0 if i connect to my wlanrouter? eth0 is the first ethernetsocket, istn it? http://nopaste.info/5e1d80cb9b.html
[19:36] <ouyes> mAriachi,  yep but i already lost the guarantee paper
[19:36] <zagabar> ANyone knows why my mail service programs like squirrelmail and ability to connect with thunderbird to check my mail starts to fail when I add the following rule? sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE
[19:36] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: YUp, Crunchbang is UBuntu, just uses the much lighter and faster Openbox Window Manager
[19:36] <holm_> was
[19:36] <mAriachi> sakthivel: but to do that, you'll need a complete reinstall, try first going to xfce, do this, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:37] <the_real_dave> ouyes: and you'll lose the memory card before you run out of read-write cycles ;)
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> whats the prefered way to turn xubuntu into ubuntu?, clean one?
[19:37] <mAriachi> ouyes: dont worry about damaging, believe me
[19:37] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: what release?
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: 9.10
[19:37] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: just install the gnome desktop
[19:38] <mplabs> Hello guys !
[19:38] <onetinsoldier> hi
[19:38] <mAriachi> !hi mplabs
[19:38] <mplabs> How are you all ?
[19:38] <mAriachi> mplabs !hi
[19:38] <sakthivel> i havent find restricted drivers from admin
[19:38] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: install ubuntu-desktop to get all the gnome programs, and ill get you a script in a sec to completely remove xfce
[19:38] <mplabs> I have some problem with my Ubuntu
[19:38] <usuario> esto k ess??
[19:38] <usuario> esta en ingless adioss
[19:39] <mAriachi> mplabs: just state your issue :D
[19:39] <usuario_> hello
[19:39]  * Talon_ strangles ubuntu
[19:39] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:39] <apanda> is there a way to boot the 8.04 live cd with a 2.4 kernel? is one included there?
[19:39] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: exactly
[19:39] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: well, you'll need to use sudo like
[19:39] <usuario_> how are you
[19:39] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  mAriachi i do not worry i would lost the card, i care for the time, if for 3 year i lost it, i think it deserves
[19:40] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: this is not the preffered way, but it is the fastest :D
[19:40] <the_real_dave> ouyes: I don't quite understand you mate....
[19:40] <mAriachi> ouyes: right you are
[19:40] <mplabs> I was trying to solve some problem with my... nvidia driver ? xorg.conf file ? I don't know, the fact is that now I'm on xfce but I use KDE, I don't know why but I can't enter to KDE
[19:40] <brontosaurusrex> mAriachi: and the prefered way is?
[19:41] <Talon_> could it be the sata controller on my motherboard isn't supported fully in ubuntu? but then why would it see the burners and not the harddrive..
[19:41] <mAriachi> the_real_dave: he's refering to his flash drive, if it's gone in 3 years, that's enough
[19:41] <mplabs> I mean.. it's not in my list
[19:41] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: a complete reinstall from scratch
[19:41] <rafael_> do i need internet connection to apply a patch if i already have the source and the patch?
[19:41] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: Here's the link for the command to completely remove xubuntu leaving just gnome http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[19:41] <mplabs> just default, xface and failsafe session is in the list
[19:41] <mplabs> :S
[19:41] <ouyes> the_real_dave,  i care about how long i can use it under ubuntu , if it is a long time ,why bother its damage? it is worth that
[19:42] <jolaren23> Does anyone know if the Spotify plugin works with xbmc-live yet?
[19:42] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: i would suggest that
[19:42] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: you may want to use sudo apt-get purge to remove all config files, your choice
[19:42] <ouyes> mAriachi,  are you a native speaker of english?
[19:42] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: thanks, but the reinstall is the best possible way?
[19:42] <mAriachi> ouyes: no, why do you ask?
[19:42] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Ah ok mate
[19:42] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: yes, yes it is :D
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> ok, so if i reinstall, should i go with lucid or karmic?
[19:43] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: apt-get purge will remove it just as clean as a re-install
[19:43] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: karmic
[19:43] <ouyes> mAriachi, nothing, you get a good comperihension
[19:43] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: so not necessarily better
[19:43] <brontosaurusrex> ok :)
[19:43] <mplabs> how is the name of the kde package in the sources list ? I will reinstall it
[19:43] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: it's easier not to
[19:44] <the_real_dave> mplabs: kubuntu-desktop will install the KDE desktop
[19:44] <mAriachi> ouyes: tnx, i'm from macedonia, i study languages, plan on to make a living out of it
[19:44] <ChibaPet> Hey all!  Is there, however, a way to re-enable the radio without rebooting?
[19:44] <simon__> as a translator?
[19:45] <keshav> Empathy or Pidgin?
[19:45] <mAriachi> simon_ are you refering to me?
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> ok, lets see, ill do install ubuntu-desktop and that xubuntu remover, then if it fails, ill reinstall ;)
[19:45] <mAriachi> simon_: type the nickname before anything else
[19:45] <the_real_dave> keshav: I prefer pidgin :)
[19:45] <ChibaPet> I see in syslog: NetworkManager: <info> Wireless now disabled by radio killswitch
[19:45] <mAriachi> brontosaurusrex: excellent compromise xd :D
[19:45] <ChibaPet> Wondering how to accomplish the reverse of that.
[19:45] <Rubber_> Idleone nous a abandonné
[19:45] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: lol ok :) be aware that the ubuntu-desktop package is quite big :)
[19:45] <simon__> what nicknameẞ
[19:46] <sakthivel> pidgin support voice and vido chat?
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> should be here in 3 minutes, 800 megs
[19:46] <mAriachi> simon_: of who you are referring to
[19:46] <simon__> you
[19:46] <mAriachi> sakthivel: nope, pidgin sucks at that
[19:46] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: and think about using apt-get purge, which will delete all the configs as well :)
[19:46] <mplabs> I think I need to reinstall some packages (or reconfigure) to make again the list of available sessions
[19:46] <mAriachi> simon_: then write my nickname before anything else
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: /etc configs or user configs?
[19:46] <ouyes> mAriachi,  the_real_dave  i am leaving now for sleep, goodday and thanks for your help .bye
[19:47] <keshav> the_real_dave, I think Pidgin is cool, but Empathy takes the crown - voice chat! Not sure if Pidgin has that
[19:47] <FreddyHayek> is this working?
[19:47] <mAriachi> ouyes:np dude, anytime, anywhere
[19:47] <ChibaPet> Freddy, yes.
[19:47] <mAriachi> ouyes: cya
[19:47] <FreddyHayek> ty
[19:47] <Talon_> do you think i can get my drive visible if I tried another distro? say SuSE for example...
[19:47] <sakthivel> can i use evolution mail for yahoo..
[19:47] <berserk_ren> dammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy
[19:47] <the_real_dave> brontosaurusrex: program configs, things in /etc as far as I know. Could be worth googling first :)
[19:47] <sakthivel> is it support yahoo
[19:47] <ChibaPet> Anyone know of a channel where folks might know about this wireless kill switch issue? Been ages since I've IRC'd.
[19:47] <simon__> mAriachi: like this?
[19:47] <ubuntu> im runing ubuntu 9.10 and my video card is turning off
[19:47] <the_real_dave> ouyes: Night mate :D
[19:47] <Besogon> Talon_, yes you can
[19:47] <ja> wtf
[19:47] <yrlnry> When I plug my digital camera into the USB port on my Ubuntu laptop, the camera device appears on the desktop and I can open it like a folder.  But there is nothing in the folder.  Why can't I see my pictures?
[19:47] <mAriachi> simon_: yep, exactly
[19:48] <mAriachi> simon_ :D
[19:48] <maco> sakthivel: if you've paid yahoo to let you have pop/imap access, sure. evolution supports standard protocols
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> the_real_dave: ok, thanks
[19:48] <carolina> portugues pt br
[19:48] <the_real_dave> keshav: I never use video chat, I've terrible bandwidth. I just prefer pidgin's UI :D
[19:48] <Talon_> its a shame, i kinda like ubuntu tho :/
[19:48] <sakthivel> evolution support gmail?
[19:48] <ubuntu> yes
[19:48] <keshav> the_real_dave yeah, it looks more mature
[19:49] <ChibaPet> I need mailing lists, I guess. I should figure out if I'm sticking with Ubuntu or trying CentOS and then subscribe to something. :P
[19:49] <the_real_dave> sakthivel: I presume so, gmail supprts pop right?
[19:49] <berserk_ren> dammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy
[19:49] <ChibaPet> Later all.
[19:49] <Talon_> how can i check to see if ubuntu even recognizes all four possible sata ports?
[19:49] <keshav> sakthivel Yes, gmail supports both pop3 and imap
[19:49] <FreddyHayek> any way to make teh font larger? I don't mean I just want to shout at y'all. I want to read what you say without my nose on the monitor.
[19:50] <mAriachi> ALL: good night y'all, cya tomorrow
[19:50] <Rubber_> j en ai assez
[19:50] <the_real_dave> mAriachi: Night mate :D
[19:50] <Besogon> Talon_, sudo fdisk -l Should show you all drives and partitions
[19:50] <Rubber_> ve rebrancher mon dd win
[19:50] <simon__> good night
[19:50] <nenes> alguien que entienda español?
[19:51] <Ferris-> heh. FreddyHayek. There is a way, ive seen it >_>
[19:51] <Rubber_> Idleone il est ou ?
[19:51] <marcuy> yo entiendo
[19:51] <the_real_dave> Talon_: it doesn't make sense that it would recognise the dvd drives and not the hdd if they're both connected to the same controller. could be worth taking a look in your BIOS
[19:51] <marcuy> que pasó nenes ?
[19:52] <Rubber_> marcury eqsta solo
[19:52] <FreddyHayek> Ferris, thanks. If you can recall some hint?
[19:52] <Rubber_> esta
[19:52] <Rubber_> oups
[19:52] <marcuy> ops
[19:52] <Rubber_> da
[19:52] <berserk_ren> dammit... i have installed fglrx but screen turned unexpectedly messd up... just like brush strokes... my card radeon 9200 SE what to do? ubuntu 9.04,  fglrx installed via envy
[19:52] <Rubber_> bersek j ai vomi
[19:52] <marcuy> que decis Rubber_ ?
[19:53] <Talon_> the_real_dave: my thoughts exactly.. but windows sees it fine. I looked in bios and bios sees them fine and all of the hdd's have the same preferences in the bios
[19:53] <Rubber_> marcury jy sois frog man
[19:53] <the_real_dave> Talon_: I presume fdisk -l shows nothing?
[19:53] <Talon_> just two drives
[19:53] <Talon_> the two on the IDE controller
[19:54] <Rubber_> qui pour m apprendre l anglais ?
[19:54] <the_real_dave> Talon_: You have IDE disk drives and sata hdds? Are they all connected to the mobo?
[19:55] <Talon_> yes, two ide drives on the ide controller, three sata drives on the sata controller, two of which are dvd burners that linux recognizes
[19:55] <chilifinger> how can you get a windows class name?
[19:55] <Rubber_> Ce mieux Windows
[19:55] <the_real_dave> Talon_: hmmm, that makes no sense. I'm of no help mate, sorry :(
[19:55] <sakthivel> i tried evlotion mail fro gmail.. folllowingerror accured during send recieve.. Error while Sending message.
[19:55] <sakthivel> MAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required. Learn more at
[19:55] <sakthivel> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 8sm1140262yxb.43
[19:56] <jrib> chilifinger: xprop
[19:56] <Talon_> its gotta be a bug, because its completely there and acessable if i boot winxp
[19:56] <chilifinger> jrib: thanks
[19:56] <sakthivel> MAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required. Learn more at
[19:56] <sakthivel> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 8sm1140262yxb.43
[19:57] <mazda01_> trying to get fstab changes to no be over-written when rebooting a usb live persistent ubuntu install. i am always going to boot this usb stick on the same hardware. so  i'd like my changes to hostname, hosts, fstab and whatnot to not be overwritten. can anyone help me with this. i have googled but I can't find a way to do it.
[19:57] <sakthivel> how to connect evolution mail for gmail account.. i tried error message
[19:58] <Talon_> ok the hdd connected to the SATA controller is actually an IDE drive with a IDE 2 SATA controller conntected to it, could that be the issue?
[19:58] <Talon_> and if so, why does windows handle it and linux doesnt
[19:59] <Talon_> could linux be assuming its sata2 when in actuallity i think those converter boxes for ide drives are sata1?
[19:59] <zob_> Hi. Does anyone know if MONO can somehow control USB midi??? MONO as in f-spot and rhythmbox that is!
[20:00] <infid> Slart: you there?
[20:00] <Slart> infid: sure
[20:00] <Slart> infid: what's up?
[20:00] <apipkin1> i'm having a problem with 9.10. I clicked to remove the speaker from the top panel. now the panels keep reloading. i can't alt+f2 at all and rebooting is almost impossible
[20:00] <infid> slart cool, did you use gnome-terminal last night when you did the ssh -X stuff?
[20:00] <Slart> infid: yes, why?
[20:01] <thevishy> what is the best way to add a old linux parition to my ubuntu filesystem
[20:01] <FreddyHayek> Oh well. I'll just have put up with the tiny font. I'm growing very frustrated with the idiot-proofing in the flavors of linuks (I'm missing 3 characters - so my spelling is creative :)) .  (You there, snickering, STFU). Is there some way to set up a partition so that whoever or whatever writes to it any user booting in any OS, can read, write and eksecute it? I have one drive set up with two installations of U
[20:01] <Slart> thevishy: if you just want to access the data just put it in the fstab
[20:01] <apipkin1> i think compiz is in an infinite loop :/
[20:01] <infid> slart im still trying to get it working. ive been using gnome terminal. sometimes some gui apps like gvim or gnome-chess will run but their gui's wont run, instead they run inside the terminal as console versions
[20:01] <Slart> infid: do you have the DISPLY enviroment variable set?
[20:01] <infid> slart: and i even tried disabling passwordless logins and keys and went back to default sshd_config but i still get the same errors
[20:02] <jrib> FreddyHayek: font size?  System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts.  As for permissions, see ubottu
[20:02] <Slart> infid: sorry.. DISPLAY
[20:02] <jrib> !permissions > FreddyHayek
[20:02] <infid> Slart: yeah i've always had DISPLAY set
[20:02] <infid> Slart it's set to localhost:10.0
[20:02] <Slart> infid: hmm.. mine is just set to :0.0  no localhost
[20:02] <infid> slart ok i just got some progress
[20:03] <infid> slart i tried ssh -X'ing FROm the host to the client this time and it works when i run gui apps!
[20:03] <Slart> infid: try adding that before your command....   DISPLAY=:0.0 ssh -X bla bla bla
[20:03] <thevishy> not just the data i want to merge it as I have less diskspace
[20:03] <infid> slart: my client is a laptop, maybe thats why?
[20:03] <thevishy> i want to resize the filesystem and include the other linux parition
[20:03] <Slart> infid: shouldn't be a difference between laptops and regular desktops when it comes to this stuff
[20:03] <Talon_> I'm going to try something, since i upgraded my pc to a motherboard with enough sata ports on it, i didn't need my old PCI sata raid controller, but the drive was found on that old pci card on my old machine in Ubuntu 9.10. I'm going to put that card back in and see if linux finds the drive on that controller.. be back with an update in 10 mins or so
[20:03] <infid> slart well even on the working computer it says localhost:10.0, and all tutorials say that's what the offset should be
[20:04] <Slart> thevishy: oh.. do you want the data? or it's empty?
[20:04] <Slart> infid: why 10.0 ? you're running more than one X server?
[20:04] <thevishy> I dont want the data , it is a broken linux mint installation
[20:05] <Slart> thevishy: boot from a live cd.. use gparted.. remove the mint partition.. resize some other partition that's next to it... that should work alright.. but always make backups.. things can get nasty if you get a power failure or something like that
[20:05] <infid> slart no. idk why it's that. it just is by default. if you look in sshd_config it shows X11DisplayOffset 10
[20:05] <DoGuKaN> hi
[20:05] <DoGuKaN> Do you have moblock using??
[20:05] <thevishy> right I will try that , its a laptop so no power issue I hope but yes i will keep that in mind thanks
[20:06] <FreddyHayek> jrib, I guess that "!" nomenclature elicited the ot message. Thanks. I'll ollk at it but I've goggled permissions already and spent a lot of time reading the results. I can screw with individual files easily. What I want is to change the way the permissions default so to speak. I want any files written to a particular partition to AUTOMATICALLY have permissions for anyone to do anything with. Not to have to change them one at a time.
[20:06] <shane2peru> ok, when I start up evolution, it just goes to a dark window, and refuses to respond to anything!  Any ideas???
[20:06] <jrib> FreddyHayek: do you have more than one user on your system?
[20:06] <Slart> infid: ha.. you're absolutely right.. it says localhost:10.0 on my system too.. I just looked at a regular gnome-terminal.. not through ssh
[20:06] <Gaming4JC> hey all, how would I go about submitting a bug for a game called PenguPop? They don't have their own bug tracker and it's in the repos soo...
[20:07] <lianimator> is there a way to take a photo from a webcam from the terminal?
[20:07] <infid> slart the only thing about this laptop (the machine that it wont work FROM, but works TO) is that it's ubuntu 9.10 as an upgrade from jaunty. so maybe something got mangled somewhere
[20:07] <ViridianFire> Can anyone help me get my headphone jack to work?
[20:07] <Losha> infid: the 10 is basically arbitrary. It's just chosen so it won't clash with any other local screens you might have....
[20:07] <Slart> infid: it's possible.. upgrades can be a bit tricky
[20:07] <infid> slart but the ssh config files are identical
[20:08] <Slart> infid: perhaps it's not ssh that's being naughty.. perhaps it's X
[20:08] <FreddyHayek> jrib Technically, yes. I have different user names on the two seperate installations. They are both me but the machine doesn't know that.
[20:08] <infid> slart yeah probably
[20:08] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Have you been to Sound Preferences >> Input/Output? That has information on your headphones and the connector can be selected from there as well
[20:08] <jrib> FreddyHayek: what filesystem is the partition in question?
[20:09] <ViridianFire> yeah i have been there
[20:09] <Gaming4JC> I'm not sure if this bug really needs to be in launchpad since they don't have a category for it there... hmm
[20:09] <infid> losha ok i'll make a note of that thanks
[20:10] <Gaming4JC> !sound
[20:10] <ViridianFire> ok thanks
[20:10] <ViridianFire> Ill try those things
[20:10] <Gaming4JC> np. :)
[20:11] <FreddyHayek> jrib, FAT (presumaly 32, Ubuntu just calls it FAT, Which, to me means FAT12, but I can't believe that). I also have one et3 data partition that seems to work the same way. I gave up on et4.
[20:11] <jrib> FreddyHayek: what partition are you talking about now?  FAT doesn't store permissions so those get decided at mount time
[20:11] <ViridianFire> wait what volume control?
[20:12] <ViridianFire> I double clicked the one on the task bar and nothing happened
[20:13] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: System>>Preferences>>Sound
[20:13] <Johnny_425> Whenever I press the Caps Lock key, the light doesn't come on. I have a dell keyboard. Please Help
[20:13] <ViridianFire> I dont have an alsa mixer option
[20:14] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[20:14] <titan_ark> sound problems?
[20:14] <titan_ark> same here :(
[20:14] <OerHeks> ViridianFire terminal > alsamixer
[20:14] <titan_ark> cant get my mic to work
[20:15] <dorito> is there any msn clone for linux that supports webcam feature?
[20:15] <ubuntu> wich channel is ubuntu jam going to be on
[20:15] <dorito> as well as microphone
[20:15] <FreddyHayek> jrib, I'm talking about the FAT. I picked it specifically for that freason bcause I couldn't get es4 partitions to even consistently give access to the partiton let alone the files on it. If I can't get the perms to default the way I want 'em, maybe I could run some sort of script that would reset all perms on all files in a given partition, all the way down thru the subdirectories, sort of like a GLObAL command in a 4DOS batch file?
[20:15] <shane2peru> can someone recommend a decent replacment for Rhythmbox?   What would you use for an all around music player? I don't need nothing fancy.
[20:16] <jrib> FreddyHayek: like I said, FAT doesn't store permissions.  Just mount it with the right options
[20:16] <ioka> guys how can I see all the running processes ?
[20:16] <ioka> ps -a?
[20:16] <jrib> !fat > FreddyHayek
[20:16] <ioka> it does not show one of them
[20:16] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: mplayer, mpoc, quite a few basic ones. Media Player Classic is also a fav. :)
[20:16] <ioka> what should I do?
[20:16] <guntbert> ioka: ps aux
[20:16] <guntbert> ioka: without -
[20:16] <ioka> ok guntbert I'll try
[20:16] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC, I would like a decent GUI interface
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: hmm, WinAmp under wine? lol jk
[20:17] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC, lol, ugg, no, Gnome type stuff. :)
[20:17] <Talon_> update report: I installed that PCI Raid controller, and now I have my drive 3
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> I also am looking for another player though, Rhythmbox seems to stop playing CDs now after about the 5th song. :/
[20:17] <Gaming4JC> heh
[20:18] <VCoolio> shane2peru: banshee, audacious, various mpd clients like quodlibet, ario, sonata; there's tons of options in this department
[20:18] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC, yeah, Rhythmbox is ok, but I think there is probably something better out there.
[20:18] <Talon_> but now i got to get the drivers for that pci raid controller in windows so windows can access that drive again... jeesh... what a mess
[20:18] <shane2peru> VCoolio, I want something that would drop in as a replacment for the default, perhaps I will give banshee a try
[20:19] <mazda01_> trying to get fstab changes to no be over-written when rebooting a usb live persistent ubuntu install. i am always going to boot this usb stick on the same hardware. so  i'd like my changes to hostname, hosts, fstab and whatnot to not be overwritten. can anyone help me with this. i have googled but I can't find a way to do it.
[20:19] <MasterMatan> hi all
[20:19] <shane2peru> VCoolio, I always liked Amarok in the old days, thought it had a nice interface, Rhythmbox just is lacking some stuff.
[20:19] <jrib> mazda01_: why would they be overwritten?
[20:20] <meeee> hi again; trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, i get an 'Could Not Calculate the Update' error
[20:20] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty
[20:20] <joh6nn> i've tried disabling ipv6, but that doesn't seem to have made any noticeable difference
[20:20] <meeee> its a fresh install of 8.04, trying to upgrade to 8.10....
[20:21] <ioka> guntbert: 10x a lot man :)
[20:21] <jrib> meeee: how are you upgrading?
[20:21] <meeee> update-manager
[20:21] <guntbert> ioka: you're welcome :-)
[20:21] <VCoolio> shane2peru: banshee has a lot to offer too; quodlibet has a lot of plugins to get features; just try out stuff
[20:22] <jrib> me___: did you update 8.04 first?  Have you ever enabled any third-party repositories?  Have you installed anything outside the official repositories?
[20:22] <shane2peru> VCoolio, is Juk more of a kde one?
[20:22] <ViridianFire> I have the alsamixer open in the terminal
[20:22] <mazda01_> jrib, not sure. i am using a usb live persistent install created by pendrivelinux windows executable. it created a 4gb casper-rw file and there must be some script run at bootup that overwrites certain files. or maybe my main filesystem files can't be saved to because i have a ro filesystem. not sure. here is the output of mount:  http://pastebin.com/f1cb986ee
[20:22] <me___> i have a fresh 8.04.no outside repos, no packages at all installed other than the base ones
[20:22] <jolaren> How do I run an Java application in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <jrib> mazda01_: is anything peristent?
[20:22] <VCoolio> shane2peru: yes
[20:22] <ViridianFire> and there is no volume bar for the headphone jack
[20:22] <joh6nn> jolaren: do you have java installed?
[20:23] <jrib> !persistent > mazda01_
[20:23] <shane2peru> VCoolio, ahh, I want to stay clear of the extra kde stuff, ok, Banshee, and I will look  at that other one too.
[20:23] <jrib> mazda01_: maybe that helps
[20:23] <mazda01_> jrib, it appears that files I write to my home dir are still there.
[20:23] <Gaming4JC> ahhh finally found a pengupop tracker... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pengupop/+filebug
[20:23] <aliciapg> does anyone know why musescore would be skipping notes when the file is larger?
[20:23] <jolaren> joh6nn; I believe so, yes.. I installeds ome dependencies from the packet manager
[20:23] <mazda01_> jrib, changes like installing programs (cairo-dock, xchat, etc etc) are still here after reboit
[20:23] <jolaren> joh6nn; the "sunjava-6-bin" package
[20:24] <joh6nn> jolaren: ok.  and what program are you trying to run?
[20:24] <jason_> whats a good vnc server application for ubuntu? I need it for being a server so I can log into it from work - not a viewer. (already have the viewer)
[20:24] <jolaren> joh6nn; Jotify
[20:24] <jrib> mazda01_: I see.  Don't know then, see if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent has a better install method that works
[20:24] <roler> i am running ubuntu with an ATI 4650 on my TV. It has underscan and I want to turn it off to get rid of the border. I am trying to find the right option for xorg.conf, anyone have that?
[20:24] <jolaren> joh6nn; joel@joel-laptop:~$ java -version
[20:24] <jolaren> java version "1.6.0_15"
[20:24] <jolaren> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03)
[20:24] <jolaren> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[20:24] <FloodBot4> jolaren: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <ViridianFire> so my headphone jack doesnt have a volume bar in the alsamixer and isnt outputing sound
[20:25] <theduke> hey guys, I'm struggling a little with cronjobs... they just refuse to run
[20:26] <jrib> !cron | theduke
[20:26] <joh6nn> jolaren: and what happens when you try to run it?
[20:26] <theduke> just a simple test: * * * * * ls /home/username >> /home/username/ls.log
[20:26] <_MaX_> hi
[20:26]  * _MaX_ is german *g*
[20:26] <theduke> and nothing shows up in the file
[20:27] <jrib> theduke: did you remember the final newline?
[20:28] <aliciapg> does anyone know why musescore would be skipping notes when the file is larger?
[20:28] <PsiCoLeO> hi guys
[20:28] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty
[20:28] <jolaren> joh6nn; When trying to open from X.. gedit opens it but when opening from terminal I just get errors
[20:28] <_MaX_> Spricht hier jemand deutsch? Hab kb auf englisch zu reden -.-
[20:28] <PsiCoLeO> im trying to upgrade/update my kernel to 2.6.33
[20:29] <joh6nn> _MaX_: ich glaube es gibt deutsch sprachige channels
[20:29] <FreddyHayek> jrib, the FAT article you referred me to SEEMS to imply that if I reformat NTFS that may accomplish what I want, i.e, , a partition that lets anyone who can mount it, regardless of what installation of Ubuntu they boot form or what account they are in, or for that matter, what OS they are using to read, write, or eksecute anything on that partition without having to reset file perms of individual files. Afore I go off and reformat, do you believe my inference
[20:29] <_MaX_> Ne dreht sich ja um Ubuntu:P
[20:29] <joh6nn> jolaren: : pastebin the errors?
[20:29] <jrib> FreddyHayek: while that's true of ntfs, it is also true of fat
[20:30] <_MaX_> Um die Installation um genau zu sein oO
[20:30] <jrib> !de | _MaX_
[20:30] <cisco> hello everyone i'm new 2 this and i'm having a problem and wondering if someone can help
[20:30] <theduke> jrib: that was it, thanks
[20:30] <jrib> theduke: I hate that too :)
[20:30] <PsiCoLeO> but when I update using to 2.6.33 using ppa
[20:30] <jrib> cisco: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:30] <cisco> how you do that
[20:30] <_MaX_> Das mit dem /join brauchste mir nich zu sagen, ich kenn IRC :P
[20:31] <jrib> cisco: just state your problem to the channel, if someone can help, they will
[20:31] <PsiCoLeO> i cant use the wirless nor the nvidia drivers
[20:31] <Gaming4JC> !help | cisco
[20:31] <joh6nn> _MaX_: ja, ich meinte ich glaube es gibt sogar deutsch sprachige Ubuntu channels :)
[20:31] <mazda01_> so no one has used the pendrivelinux windows executable to create a live usb session and try to make changes to fstab, etc?
[20:31] <Talon_> sorry i had to restart my virtual machine, but any clue why my hard drive works on a PCI Raid controller and not the motherboards SATA ports? (worked in win, but not linux) but using this pci raid controller, i can now have my sata drive in both linux and windows..
[20:31] <_MaX_> joh6nn: :P
[20:32] <FreddyHayek> jrib, that's what I thought before. That  is why I used FAT. but it doesn't seem to be working that way. Seems, at the very least,  to be stopping anyone but the creator from modifying any file unless I reset the perms.
[20:32] <_MaX_> - Please register with servicthis channel (#ubuntu-de)
[20:32] <_MaX_> -.-
[20:32] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[20:32] <cisco> ok well i just got 9.10 i have sound but when i try hooking up my headphones i have sound coming out of my comp speakers and my headphones at the same time anybody knows how to fix it
[20:33] <jrib> FreddyHayek: fat does not have permissions.  They get set when you mount them.
[20:33] <jrib> FreddyHayek: just follow ubottu's link on what options you need to pass when you mount
[20:33] <OerHeks> Talon_  i preffer  pci raid over the onboard raid controller, these are software-raid - uses the cpu
[20:35] <ViridianFire> Gaming4JC: The only hardware options I have under sound preferences are: Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo input, Digital Stereo Duplex, Digital Stereo Output + Analog Stereo Input, and Analog Stereo Output
[20:35] <Talon_> im just lucky i had this card, i almost blew away linux it annoyed me that bad
[20:35] <r3za> hi , i download the thunderbird 3 from mozilla ( tar.bz2 ) now how can i install it in ubuntu ?
[20:35] <nh2> what can I do that apt-get install firefox-3.6 from the mozilla-daily ppa does not upgrade the firefox meta package and the firefox 3.5 packages?
[20:35] <blakkheim> r3za: compile probably
[20:35] <r3za> blakkheim: can u explain it more ?
[20:35] <Gnea> r3za: why would you download the tar.bz2?
[20:35] <blakkheim> !compile > r3za
[20:35] <jrib> r3za: thunderbird is in the repositories.  It's better to use the repositories in general
[20:36] <titan_ark> hey does anyone know how to configure the microphone and alsa?
[20:36] <FreddyHayek> jrib, thanks. What I hear you saying is that I had half the solution by formatting FAT (or I could have used NTFS) but that now I need to study mounting. If you say that is a fair summary, I'll go study mounting options and quit bthering y'all for a while. Do I take you r meaning correctly?
[20:36] <ubuntu> hello everyone.  Is there a good hard drive data recovery program for Ubuntu?
[20:36] <titan_ark> i cant seem to get any sound/ noise
[20:36] <_dreamy> can anyone please tell me why there is no 3d driver for my sis 672 fx ?
[20:36] <jrib> FreddyHayek: right.  If you are using fstab, ubottu's link should tell you exactly what options you need.  (umask)
[20:36] <_dreamy> anyone helping on this ?
[20:36] <r3za> jrib: i want the 3 version , respositories have 2.0.23 ..
[20:37] <greenjellow> i'm having trouble connecting to the repositories  :( bummer
[20:37] <FreddyHayek> jrib, TYVM. later.
[20:37] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Hmm I'll send a pic of my setup, just a moment...
[20:37] <ViridianFire> ok
[20:37] <jrib> r3za: ok, but it's recommended you wait for version 3 to enter the repositories instead of installing it on your own
[20:37] <lucas_> una preg, como se instala un nuevo usplash?
[20:37] <Gnea> !info testdisk
[20:37] <greenjellow> google it lucas
[20:37] <greenjellow> it's prob easy
[20:37] <aliciapg> does anyoneknow anything about musescore?
[20:38] <lucas_> ok
[20:38] <cisco> viri thats the same options i saw but none of that gets rid of the problem any other suggestions
[20:38] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Here's how I select headphones for when I'm using them over my speakers: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1021/soundprefs.jpg
[20:38] <xiambax> Can someone please assist me in mounting an AFP Volume in linux?
[20:38] <name> hey
[20:38] <name> anyone can tell me how good orca works?
[20:38] <Gaming4JC> !welcome | name
[20:39] <ViridianFire> yeah that doesnt seem to work for me
[20:39] <crlsgms> hello fellas, can anyone suggest a nice screenshot app that i can get through synaptic?
[20:39] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: Hmm that's strange, and I'm not particularly good at troubleshooting advanced sound issues. You might want to open up a topic on the forum
[20:39] <ViridianFire> ok
[20:40] <nh2> r3za: http://www.kabatology.com/12/09/a-single-command-to-install-thunderbird-3-in-ubuntu/
[20:40] <jrib> datacrusher: what's wrong with the default one?  Press your print-screen button
[20:40] <cisco> oh ok i will try and open up a topic
[20:40] <Pindaman> Anyone here that can help me out with a non-working repository on Ubuntu Server CLI?
[20:40] <jrib> Pindaman: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:40] <ViridianFire> well I dont have a volume bar for it on alsamixer could that have anything to do with it?
[20:40] <datacrusher> jrib, i got no default one on my start apps
[20:40] <datacrusher> can you tell me the name of the default one?
[20:40] <greenjellow> pidaman i think i have the same proble
[20:40] <jrib> datacrusher: press your print-screen button
[20:40] <datacrusher> iv pressed
[20:40] <jrib> datacrusher: on your keyboard
[20:40] <datacrusher> and now?
[20:41] <jrib> datacrusher: that's it :/  are you using gnome in ubuntu?
[20:41] <Pindaman> My Ubuntu Server has internet, can ping "www.google.nl" but the repository cannot update or install anything. Hangs on connecting. I can ping the repository address where its trying to connect to.
[20:41] <datacrusher> yes
[20:41] <datacrusher> well, i got an error now
[20:41] <datacrusher> gnome-screenshot
[20:41] <Gaming4JC> ViridianFire: My AlsaMixer also shows no headphones, but it's working so I'm not sure that's the issue. :/
[20:41] <jrib> datacrusher: right
[20:41] <datacrusher> ill search for it on synaptic
[20:41] <ViridianFire> ok thanks
[20:41] <greenjellow> @Pidaman I have the same problem
[20:41] <cisco> i've tried to delete alsa but that didn't work either
[20:41] <Pindaman> Alsa is for sound?
[20:42] <r3za> nh2: thanks alot man ..
[20:42] <Pindaman> Oh sorry i read the wrong line
[20:42] <cisco> oh ok
[20:42] <greenjellow> @Pindaman did you upgrade?
[20:42] <lauren-zoe> hello
[20:42] <Pindaman> Upgrade to what greenjellow ?
[20:42] <nh2> r3za: no problem. There is also a mozilla daily PPA, but it tends to upgrade other stuff you don't want to have.
[20:42] <jrib> greenjellow: pastebin your error
[20:42] <nh2> how to prevent apt from upgrading firefox(-3.5) package while installing FF 3.6 (mozilla-ppa)?
[20:42] <cisco> to 9.10
[20:42] <lauren-zoe> hey sexy
[20:42] <datacrusher> jrib, dont have it on synaptics list
[20:43] <datacrusher> any alternative?
[20:43] <Pindaman> I installed Ubuntu Server 32bit. Tried reinstalling but same problem
[20:43] <greenjellow> i don't now from an older version of ubuntu
[20:43] <Gaming4JC> ok, guess I had better be going. cya alls
[20:43] <greenjellow> i see
[20:43] <Gaming4JC> !bye | Gaming4JC
[20:43] <Pindaman> I did not upgrade greenjellow
[20:43] <ArchMage> i was hoping someone could help me. Whenever I run blender it segfaults immediately. I was able to run it just fine when i first installed it. also I'm getting a lot of glxinfo errors in my dmesg log
[20:43] <greenjellow> i did and this problem came up
[20:43] <jrib> Pindaman: pastebin the command you are running and the full output
[20:43] <greenjellow> there's nothing about it in google
[20:43] <jrib> greenjellow: what version are you on now?
[20:43] <Pindaman> I will paste it, sec
[20:43] <greenjellow> i dont even know
[20:43] <greenjellow> 8.04
[20:43] <greenjellow> i think
[20:43] <jrib> !version | greenjellow
[20:44] <greenjellow> ok
[20:44] <jrib> datacrusher: gnome-screenshot is in the "gnome-utils" package
[20:44] <djbasic> hey can anyone tell me why my web brrowser shuts down
[20:44] <djbasic> ???
[20:44] <ArchMage> here is a pastebin of my dmesg log containing the glxinfo errors AND the blender error
[20:44] <ArchMage> http://pastebin.com/m7a44df29
[20:44] <datacrusher> hm.. thanks
[20:44] <greenjellow> ok
[20:44] <jrib> djbasic: if you want us to guess, my guess is flash...
[20:44] <cisco> pindaman how can i get sound out of my headphones alone
[20:44] <BinaryMan> if i have a flac image + cue and want to convert individual tracks to mp3, store them in a specific directory, and replaygain them, is there a (set of) command line program(s) that can be used to do this?
[20:44] <Pindaman> Should be automatic cisco. Had no problems with that
[20:44] <djbasic> i dnot flash people sorry
[20:44] <djbasic>  you mean flash player?
[20:44] <datacrusher> ahhh now were talking
[20:44] <datacrusher> thanks jrib
[20:45] <Pindaman> Try reconnection the headphones cisco
[20:45] <djbasic> how can i fix it
[20:45] <jrib> datacrusher: this should be in the default install, are you sure your install finished successfully?
[20:45] <cisco> i did i went to 9.10 and i get sound out of both my headphones and comp speakers at the same time
[20:45] <greenjellow> yeah im hardy 8.04