[00:00]  * dr_Willis lives in his own little world
[00:00] <engineer> me too
[00:00] <Denise> and it appeard with my password
[00:01] <Denise> dr willis u r doc in computers?
[00:02] <Denise> halloween is not so soon
[00:02] <engineer> i dont use konversation
[00:02] <engineer> so i don't know the application well
[00:03] <Ratchet4620> thanks guys ^^
[00:03] <Ratchet4620> its working
[00:03] <_Angelus_> is it possible to make kubuntu reboot when i hibernate instead of poweroff?
[00:04] <engineer> click reboot?
[00:04] <mefisto__> if it reboots, it's not hibernating. I don't understand
[00:04] <_Angelus_> click reboot? :/
[00:05] <Denise> danny baby one
[00:05] <Denise> engineer
[00:05] <engineer> im here
[00:05] <_Angelus_> mefisto__: you know, when you press hibernate from kde, an snapshot is saved on the harddrive and the pc is turned off. then you can turn it on and boot into xp and reboot again into kubuntu and resume
[00:05] <Denise> david another one
[00:05] <grayearl> hello.  How do I add my ssh keys in kubuntu?  is there something i need to install?
[00:06] <_Angelus_> now , what i want is , when the snapshot is saved on the hard disc the pc reboots instead of poweroff
[00:06] <grayearl> in gnome, i would copy them to ~/.ssh
[00:06] <theunixgeek> Would anyone like to do me a favor of going into Synaptic, checking off libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk2.0-doc for installation (just checking the check box, not installing unless you want to) and then go to File>Generate Package Download Script, please? as in this picture: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fs6jwQq0LQk/SLsbgxQZ7KI/AAAAAAAAAQw/FSqht56jDO8/s1600-h/Screenshot-Synaptic+Package+Manager+.png
[00:07] <Denise> nuts
[00:07] <engineer> that doesnt make sense
[00:07] <Denise> no
[00:08] <mefisto__> grayearl: that's where my keys are too
[00:08] <Denise> no sense at all
[00:08] <theunixgeek> Denise: what I said?
[00:08] <Denise> hmm
[00:08] <Denise> was not talking about u
[00:08] <theunixgeek> ok :P
[00:08] <Denise> was talking about mysteron
[00:08] <_Angelus_> and btw how come im able to suspend to ram and hibernate without the packages "hibernate" and "USWSUSP" installed ?
[00:09] <Denise> I think he s gone
[00:09] <grayearl> mefisto__, i get an unauthorized use error
[00:09] <_Angelus_> kde4 has something built-in to suspend?
[00:09] <LADoctor> Hi, I am trying to mount my Udisk, but for some reason the system is not even finding it.
[00:10] <Denise> psy
[00:10] <engineer> no but probably the kernel has
[00:10] <engineer> LADoctor dmesg
[00:10] <Denise> back to the old hd
[00:10] <engineer> should showup there
[00:11] <Denise> okay
[00:11] <Denise> the two ways
[00:11] <Denise> ah
[00:11] <Denise> yes
[00:11] <Denise> former electrical
[00:11] <dr_Willis> LADoctor,  you are refering to a USB thumbdrive with the U3 stuff?
[00:11] <engineer> ?
[00:12] <Denise> La doc
[00:12] <Denise> with Le ing
[00:12] <Denise> ?
[00:13] <Denise> doc in pink
[00:14] <_Angelus_> what program does kubuntu/ubuntu use for the bootup splash?
[00:14] <_Angelus_> gensplash? bootsplash?
[00:14] <dr_Willis> !splash
[00:14] <katarzyna> hello
[00:14] <katarzyna> :)
[00:14] <dr_Willis> Hmm. not hat one.. :)
[00:14] <dr_Willis> I normally disable all the splash
[00:14] <dr_Willis> I was thinking usplash
[00:14] <katarzyna> wazzzzup??
[00:14] <dr_Willis> !usplash
[00:15] <_Angelus_> im asking about the kubuntu one when the computer is started
[00:15] <mefisto__> grayearl: where does the error happen? what are you doing?
[00:16] <LADoctor> I think that it is only flash drive
[00:16] <dr_Willis> _Angelus_,  i think thats the Usplash stuff
[00:17] <katarzyna> hihu hihu kubuntu :D
[00:17] <_Angelus_> ok
[00:17] <Denise> laready finished
[00:17] <_Angelus_> so its called usplash then?
[00:17] <dr_Willis> LADoctor,  'sudo fdisk -l' should show all seen drives/filesystems.  those U3 thumbdrives confuse things.. sunce they appear as 2 devices - You may have to mount the thing manually
[00:17] <dr_Willis> _Angelus_,  at least it used to be Usplash.
[00:18] <katarzyna> what is this of compizfusion key super??
[00:18] <Denise> la doc tunis
[00:19] <mefisto__> katarzyna: the win key (because windows is just super!)
[00:19] <LADoctor> actualy it only appears as one device the last time it worked.  and it does not even recognizes it.
 but no function when i want open compiz wobbly windows
[00:19] <dr_Willis> Superkey = windows key
[00:19] <Denise> freind of hoc
[00:20] <Denise> banker
[00:20] <Denise> chris
[00:20] <Denise> engineer
[00:20] <katarzyna> no function with combinate key with super key
[00:21] <dr_Willis> ive seen with compiz and ccsm befor where the 'chages' you make often dont get applied. untillyou restat compiz..  but never been able to make the issue repeat.
[00:21] <Denise> only one key
[00:21] <mefisto__> katarzyna: I don't understand. can you try saying it in more simple words?
[00:22] <Denise> two name
[00:22] <katarzyna> when i have combinate key <shift><superkey> for wobbly windows this no function
[00:23] <Denise> the polish engineer
[00:23] <katarzyna> my compiz fusion is no function
[00:23] <katarzyna> yes, im polish :P
[00:23] <Denise> from smallville
[00:24] <katarzyna> haha....very funny
[00:24] <mefisto__> katarzyna: I think you need at least one "normal" key in there, not just one of the shift keys (ctrl, alt, shift, super)
[00:24] <mefisto__> katarzyna: so something like <super><w>
[00:25] <katarzyna> aha, ok thx
[00:25] <Denise> the blue team
[00:25] <katarzyna> yeahhh.....
[00:25] <katarzyna> not now
[00:26] <Denise> not anymore
[00:26] <Denise> ?
[00:26] <Denise> the green team
[00:27] <mefisto__> what are you talking about, Denise?
[00:27] <Denise> oh
[00:27] <dr_Willis> ive been wondering that for the last hr+ mefisto__
[00:27] <Denise> it is in one of my programs
[00:27] <Denise> it says u are not authorized to compile this file by the green party
[00:27] <katarzyna> no function
[00:27] <katarzyna> ;/
[00:28] <katarzyna> i killed this compiz
[00:29] <Denise> it says fatal error: reboot or it will crash
[00:29] <Denise> and u will lose all ur datas
[00:29] <Denise> damn
[00:30] <Denise> have to check that
[00:30] <Denise> bye
[00:30]  * dr_Willis still wonders what Denise  is talking about
[00:30] <katarzyna> bye denis
[00:30] <katarzyna> good night
[00:30]  * dr_Willis decides it dosent really matter.
[00:31] <katarzyna> help me with compiz fusion who's??
[00:32] <Denise> it appeared I had honey on my hd
[00:32] <Denise> it is all right now
[00:33] <Denise> still saying fatal error
[00:34] <Denise> could it be the wifi?
[00:35] <katarzyna> honey
[00:35] <katarzyna> no horny??
[00:35] <katarzyna> :P
[00:36] <Denise> should it be horny?
[00:36] <Denise> i dont see it
[00:36] <Denise> it says disked cleaned
[00:36] <Denise> ask to ur administrator if u want to corrupt it
[00:37] <dr_Willis> !compiz | katarzyna
[00:37] <Denise> never thought ubuntu could be so complicated
[00:38]  * dr_Willis still wonders what Denise  is rambling on  about
[00:38] <karl_> I'm trying to compile kde4 from source (with kdesvn-build), but I need to upgrade cmake to 2.6.0 (which isn't in hardy's main repo)
[00:38] <Denise> it is a prgram I try to download
[00:38] <karl_> what's the best way to upgrade cmake?
[00:39] <karl_> backports, compile from source?
[00:39] <dr_Willis> karl_,  may be updated versins in the proposed repo. or backports.
[00:39] <Denise> well i think I'll try tomorrow
[00:39] <karl_> it is in backports, but if I add backports, it will probably try to upgrade all my other packages
[00:39] <Denise> dr willis u dont even find any solution
[00:39] <Denise> i guess it is not solvable
[00:40] <dr_Willis> Denise,  you have just been rambling on about 'somthing' that no one has any CLUE as to what you are talking about
[00:40] <katarzyna> sorry, i like look my new kde :)
[00:40] <mefisto__> Denise: have you asked a question?
[00:40] <Denise> yes
[00:40] <Denise> well
[00:40] <Denise> no
[00:41] <dr_Willis> Plus all the typos in what you ahve been saying.. further add to the confusion.. and  you cant seem to put more then 3 words on a line... add more to the confusion
[00:41] <dr_Willis> Most people in here proberly have you on /ignore by now
[00:41] <Denise> he it is : could it have to do with order membership and ethic?
[00:42] <Denise> lol
[00:42] <Denise> I m always on ignore in all room i go since years
[00:42] <Denise> doc no  problemo
[00:43] <myk_robinson> help. just bought a new gateway m-6881. The wifi chipset is Intel Pro 3954. It will work for a bit, then drop the connection, even though NW says its still connected
[00:43] <myk_robinson> I assume there is a different module or something i need?
[00:43] <Denise> just wondering where the trouble shooting could be
[00:44] <Denise> not now
[00:44] <dr_Willis> myk_robinson,  ive heard of others with issues with some wireless drivers dropping connection. You may want to check the forums.
[00:44] <Denise> not now
[00:44] <Denise> damn
[00:44] <Denise> out of the blue stuff now
[00:45] <Denise> teacher and psy
[00:45] <Denise> ah
[00:45] <dr_Willis> Wow Denise  that makes it so much clearer.. If you have a Kubuntu related question. You may want to just ask it..    we dont need to hear your 'play by play' drama
[00:45] <Denise> ex doc in computer
[00:45] <Denise> drama?
[00:45] <Denise> omg
[00:45] <Denise> omg
[00:45] <Denise> I m drmatic?
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> About time to call the ops, I think
[00:46] <Denise> ok
[00:46] <Denise> i go
[00:46] <Denise> bye
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> Someone's just a bit too stoned for this channel
[00:48] <myk_robinson> dr_willis: digging through as we speak. Got 43 pages to comb through, unfortunately
[00:50] <Denise> 43
[00:52] <Denise> ok
[00:52] <Denise> good night gaskets leeking
[00:57] <kurumin> olá
[00:57] <kurumin> olá
[01:00] <Denise> ola
[01:05] <nomad111> how do i create an archive from a folder in kde4
[01:05] <nomad111> i cant seem to figure it out
[01:06] <claudio> ok!
[01:09] <Dragnslcr> nomad111- odd, I'd expect Dolphin to have an item in the context menu to create a tgz file
[01:09] <dr_Willis> i always just use 'mc'
[01:10] <Dragnslcr> nomad111- I guess you can just open Ark manually
[01:10] <nomad111> it doesnt its annoying me
[01:10] <nomad111> i wish it did
[01:10] <nomad111> there is no compress menu item :(
[01:10] <nomad111> and im in a hurry
[01:11] <dr_Willis> I tend to use the 'unp' command.
[01:14] <Denise> sure u killed that compiz
[01:14] <Denise> was far too close
[01:15] <Denise> the stalker
[01:15] <Denise> yeah yeah
[01:15] <Denise> high speed compiling program
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> nomad111- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils-kde4/+bug/206139
[01:15] <Denise> u had to stop it
[01:16] <nomad111> Dragnslcr: thx i just found that out as well
[01:16] <dr_Willis> Low! egads.. thats a critical!
[01:16] <Denise> so u make the big donkeys show
[01:17] <Denise> made
[01:17] <allen> .
[01:17] <allen> hi all
[01:17] <Denise> always at ur computer
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> You wanna send out the call, dr_Willis?
[01:18] <dr_Willis> Dragnslcr,  for someone that left.. hes awfully noisy eh?
[01:19] <dr_Willis> Denise,  please  stop with the Offtopic babling/chatter/rants/comments/
[01:19] <Denise> I analysing an ubuntu bugs with a very sophisticated program
[01:20] <Denise> could you please let others work?
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it's amazing that we can still hear him so long after he left
[01:20] <maritzina> hi where are the progrmas that come with kubuntu (k3b, kaffeine, etc..)
[01:20] <maritzina> in what folder?
[01:20] <Denise> left
[01:21] <Dragnslcr> maritzina- probably /usr/bin for most of them, possibly /usr/sbin as well
[01:23] <Disegni> Hi
[01:24] <Denise> hi
[01:24] <Denise> need help?
[01:25] <Denise> yes
[01:26] <Denise> donkey
[01:26] <Denise> with la doc in it here and there
[01:26] <Denise> ok
[01:27] <Denise> getting nust
[01:27] <Denise> good night
[01:27] <myk_robinson> still searching online, but if anyone has some help for me and my Intel 3954ABG, speak up. Thanks
[01:28] <Denise> even fabio?
[01:28] <Denise> ah sure
[01:28] <Denise> began with fabio
[01:31] <Denise> fred
[01:31] <Denise> the black cat and Poe
[01:31] <Denise> poe is on fred's website
[01:32] <Denise> ron paul too
[01:32] <mefisto__> someone kick Denise, please...
[01:33] <Wicked> hello all. my external usb hard drive is suddenly giving me issues. heres what dmesg says: http://pastebin.com/m5608ce51
[01:33] <Wicked> it wont even create the /dev/sdf
[01:36] <JuJuBee> How do I upgrade a remote server from 7.04 to 8.04 via cli?
[01:36] <Denise> ok kick me now
[01:37] <Denise> fine
[01:37] <Denise> poe and ron paul
[01:38] <Denise> accreditations
[01:39] <Denise> contractor
[01:39] <Denise> maybe not
[01:39] <Dragnslcr> !ops | Denise
[01:39] <Denise> maybe still blue
[01:40] <Dragnslcr> JuJuBee- I believe you can change your apt sources list and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:42] <JuJuBee> Drangslcr: even though using 7.04...
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> JuJuBee- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[01:43] <Dragnslcr> JuJuBee- apparently there's a commandline upgrade manager. Those pages have sections for server upgrades
[01:46] <JuJuBee> Dragnslcr : thanks.  That works.  However, they do not suggest doing update over ssh
[01:46] <JuJuBee> I will wait until I can get access to the box I guess...
[01:53] <Denise> test
[01:53] <Denise> 1 2
[01:58] <usuario> po,k9unb5c 74
[02:01] <Schuenemann> !info awesfx
[02:13] <goldmetal> how to setup vpn connection?
[02:15] <squirrel_> hey anyone have AMD 64 ?
[02:16] <dr_Willis> Lots of us do. :)
[02:16] <dr_Willis> !vpn
[02:18] <dr_Willis> Do you have a real question squirrel_ ?
[02:19] <dr_Willis> Then you may want to ask it here in the channel so we can all share.. :)
[02:20] <squirrel_> i had problem via instalation ubuntu 8.04 MP Bios Bug 8254 Timer is not connected IO-APIC
[02:21] <squirrel_> i disabled in bios,try nopic nolapic but...
[02:22] <squirrel_> and some Errno 5 error ((
[02:23] <dr_Willis> the alternative installer cd - often works where the live cd dosent.  Is this error during the install? during the boot of the installer cd? or after it installs?
[02:26] <squirrel_> MP Bios Bug uppear when kernel was loading but installation dosn't stopping at 60 or 40% Errno 5 uppeard
[02:26] <squirrel_> i Redownloaded iso reburned but same error
[02:28] <dr_Willis> Try the alternative installer cd.  is about the only thing i can think of.. unless you find some other options to try. Ive not had to mess with the apci/apic/stuff in ages
[02:29] <squirrel_> i install ubuntu 7.04 without problem (find old DVD) and upgrade it 7.10 , 8.04
[02:29] <squirrel_> i'l try alternative installer cd thanks
[02:46] <felipe__> holA.
[02:47] <felipe__> tengo una pregunta...alguien puede ayudarme!?!!?!
[02:49] <dr_Willis> !es
[02:49] <dr_Willis> Hmm. It seems that more and more of my keyboards get the A/S/W keys lettering erased...
[02:49] <dr_Willis> must be somtning on my hands from work. :) hyd. oil, and other chemicals
[02:50] <mauro_> alguien de argentina?
[02:50] <dr_Willis> !br
[02:50]  * dr_Willis is guessing at the languages
[02:51] <Denise> is there an ircop around?
[02:51] <Denise> cuz i would like to say something
[02:52] <felipe__> are u a narc, denise
[02:52] <Denise> no
[02:52] <Denise> i m a one woman show
[02:55] <posingaspopular> hello all, im trying to install kubuntu on a machine but /dev/sda1 shows a warning sign on the ntfs filesystem (i need to resize it before i install kubuntu) when i run gparted to try and resize the partition
[03:00] <Denise> sure u have to
[03:00] <Denise> u have to format it in ext3
[03:01] <posingaspopular> denise, i need to  resize the ntfs partition before i can have an empty space to run mk2fs on it to make an ext3 FS to install the OS onto
[03:01] <posingaspopular> the problem is resizing the partition
[03:02] <Denise> the best thing is the use gparted before installing kubuntu
[03:02] <favro> posingaspopular: windows might not have shut down properly - reboot it
[03:02] <Denise> u do all u have to do with gparted
[03:02] <Denise> then u reboot and install kubuntu
[03:02] <Denise> and check ur hd before
[03:02] <posingaspopular> favro: already did it twice
[03:03] <Denise> do a check
[03:03] <posingaspopular> i already did all of those things
[03:03] <favro> posingaspopular: and it's been defragged?
[03:04] <Denise> u want to keep windows or not?
[03:04] <jerry> is it possible to remote connect to a windows desktop?
[03:04] <posingaspopular> favro: no need for a defrag, it's a new computer, with a fresh vista install/new HD. there hasn't been time for the file system to become fragemented yet
[03:04] <favro> k
[03:05] <jerry> is it possible to remote connect to a windows desktop?
[03:05] <Denise> I have the answer in my book
[03:05] <Denise> damn it
[03:05] <Denise> i dont have my glasses
[03:05] <dr_Willis> jerry,  with vnc yes, then theres ways to use the windows remote desktop also. but i never use that
[03:05] <dr_Willis> freenx may have a client/server out for windows also by now (not sure on that)
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> jerry- yes, use krdc
[03:06] <jerry> now is this over the internet or on a network
[03:06] <jerry> because either is fine
[03:06] <dr_Willis> the internet is a network. :) vnc is best over the local lan. its not real secure.
[03:06] <dr_Willis> freenx i hear can work over the internet. but ive not messed with it.
[03:06] <posingaspopular> dr_Willis: can i get a consult on my ntfs issue?
[03:06] <jerry> ok thanks
[03:06] <dr_Willis> vnc is often 'tunnled'
[03:07] <dr_Willis> posingaspopular,  sure why not.. care to summearize the 3 pages of stuff i see above?
[03:07] <posingaspopular> im trying to install kubuntu on a machine but /dev/sda1 shows a warning sign on the ntfs filesystem (i need to resize it before i install kubuntu) when i run gparted to try and resize the partition
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> Some VNC servers can do SSL
[03:07] <posingaspopular> warning sign = yellow sign with an ! point on it
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> There's a free client that supports SSL called SSVNC
[03:08] <dr_Willis> I always defrag/scandisk befor resizing (even if its new) and i use the gparted livecd. I 'shrink' the windows install. leaving a section of the hard drive Unallocated. I then let the ubuntu installer partition/install to the unallocated space.
[03:08] <dr_Willis> Dragnslcr,  thats handy. :)
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it's pretty nice
[03:09] <squirrel_> is anyone here georgian ?
[03:09] <Denise> lol
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> I run x11vnc on my home computer and use SSVNC to connect to it from work
[03:09] <dr_Willis> I do not use x11vnc. i always have a seperate 'hidden' vncserver running by sshing into the box and running vncserver.
[03:10] <dr_Willis> seems to work 'faster/better' that way. then by sharing the currently seen desktop
[03:10] <posingaspopular> k it looks like the NTFS on windows is inconsisten
[03:10] <dr_Willis> I also perfer the presistant/stays alive feture of running vncserver
[03:10] <posingaspopular> thanks, all.
[03:12] <Denise> I like that system
[03:15] <Denise> and the girls?
[03:17] <squirrel_> aris qartveli aq vinme ?
[03:17] <dr_Willis> Quid Pro Quo?
[03:18] <Denise> mistake?
[03:18] <Denise> running gag?
[03:19] <Denise> part of the network
[03:21] <Denise> lucrative branch
[03:28] <Roey> talkers detected in sector #kubuntu.
[03:28] <Roey> dr_Willis:  heya! long time no see!
[03:28] <Roey> Denise:  yo :)
[03:28] <Roey> squirrel_:  I had this great page open in Konqueror all this week  with good Latin quotes
[03:28] <Roey> some of them humurous
[03:30] <Denise> yo Roey
[03:31] <Denise> how goes roue?
[03:32] <Roey> oh all good
[03:32] <Roey> Denise:  I have this garden, right
[03:33] <Roey> and I noticed pests there who eat the leaves of my bell pepper plants
[03:33] <Roey> and of everything else
[03:33] <Roey> they destroyed my watermelons
[03:33] <Roey> anyway, so I bought a thousand Green Lacewing eggs
[03:33] <Roey> put them out two days ago
[03:33] <Roey> but I don't see any of them anywhere!
[03:33] <Roey> (they're supposed to be voracious and all)
[03:33] <Roey> (eating the pests, etc.)
[03:33] <mr---t-> !enter
[03:34] <Denise> okay lsitening roue
[03:34] <Denise> so...
[03:34] <Denise> listening
[03:34] <Denise> sorry tired fingers
[03:35] <Denise> I suggest to arrose everything with water and saop
[03:35] <Denise> soap
[03:35] <x-X-x> anyone know what application/s game makers use for 3d linux games ?
[03:35] <tamez> hola pessoal, sou novo aki e gostei muito do kubuntu 8.04 64 bits
[03:36] <tamez> mas nao consigo instalar o skype pro kubuntu
[03:36] <mr---t-> !br
[03:36] <dr_Willis> Depends on the game and language and  tamez  - that quake3 engine is used by a lot of them now a days. Python has 3d stuff as well..  OpenGL is often used also. (or used by the other 3d stuff)
[03:38] <Denise> i know this roey voice
[03:38] <Roey> oh?
[03:38] <Denise> yes
[03:38] <Roey> what of my voice?
[03:38] <x-X-x> dr_willis thnx for answer
[03:38] <Denise> very mocking
[03:38] <x-X-x> ill look into quake engine then
[03:38] <Denise> and
[03:38] <Roey> hmm
[03:38] <Denise> very loud
[03:38] <Roey> me?
[03:38] <Denise> and very hum
[03:39] <Denise> mythomanic
[03:39] <dr_Willis> x-X-x,  Alien Arena, World of Padman, Urban Terror (and others?) are all using that Free varient of the Quake3 engine I belive
[03:39] <Roey> I don't follow
[03:39] <Roey> but anyway
[03:39] <Denise> anyway
[03:39] <Denise> what about ur garden
[03:39] <mr---t-> !ot
[03:39] <Roey> it's doing well for the moment
[03:39] <Roey> thanks t :)
[03:40] <x-X-x> dr_willis do you know if the quake engine will allow the creation of a rts game ?
[03:40] <Denise> I think i need an hospitalization
[03:40] <Denise> for overuse of ubuntu
[03:40] <Roey> what happened, are you OK??
[03:40] <Denise> nah
[03:40] <Denise> i m fallinggg
[03:41] <Denise> did it happen to u in the past?
[03:41] <Roey> vertigo?
[03:41] <Roey> I've had vertigo once
[03:41] <Denise> sort of
[03:41] <Denise> with sweats
[03:41] <Denise> and omgggggggg
[03:41] <Roey> oh
[03:41] <Roey> yeah?
[03:41] <Denise> fallingggg
[03:41] <Denise> hopefully
[03:41] <Denise> i fell with my keyborad
[03:41] <dr_Willis> x-X-x,  ive seen similer quake mods in the past.. If you want a RTS 3d engine.. i think theres a few out.. Warzone2100 is one i can think of. Theres a few other RTS games  for linux also
[03:41] <Roey> eek
[03:42] <Denise> eek
[03:42] <Denise> awwwwwwwwwww
[03:42] <therion> Hi, i removed "Trash" from dolphin, how can i repair it? I'm using KDE 4 (sorry for my english)
[03:42] <Denise> i see foxes everywhere
[03:42] <Denise> is it normal???
[03:42] <dr_Willis> Time to go take a nap Denise
[03:42] <Denise> ok
[03:42] <dr_Willis> therion,  you may want to check the kde4 channel
[03:42] <Denise> night master
[03:43] <dr_Willis> !kde4 | therion
[03:43] <therion> right
[03:44] <Denise> night roue the pooh
[03:44] <mr---t-> dr_Willis:  I have made changes to the config appearance settings in konversation per jucato to get double spacing but it doesn't seem to be consistant
[03:44] <dr_Willis> I dont use konversation, sorry
[03:45] <mr---t-> ok thanx anyway
[03:45] <Denise> wanna a teddy bear?
[03:47] <tamez> #ubuntu-br
[03:47] <nathan_> how do determine the path of my usb stick for use with a command like "dd"
[03:48] <mr---t-> tamez:  "/join #ubuntu-br
[03:48] <mr---t-> "
[03:48] <nathan_> I am trying to write an iso to an img to a usb stick so that I can use it to install arch linux
[03:48] <nathan_> I am trying to write an img to a usb stick so that I can use it to install arch linux
[03:49] <slacker_> Can anyone help me please. "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist"
[03:50] <favro> slacker_: try /dev/sdc0 ? maybe
[03:50] <slacker_> "mount: special device /dev/sdc0 does not exist"
[03:51] <slacker_> fdisk -l displays no information
[03:51] <favro> slacker_: ls /dev | grep sdc
[03:51] <favro> slacker_: sudo fdisk -l works better
[03:52] <slacker_> both commands do nothing =/.
[03:52] <slacker_> they list absolutley nothing lol
[03:52] <favro> slacker_: try df -h
[03:52] <slacker_> that works
[03:52] <favro> slacker_: how are you running these commands?
[03:53] <slacker_> through a shell
[03:53] <favro> k
[03:53] <slacker_> Konsole
[03:53] <therion> nobody know how to repair trash in kde4? in kubuntu-kde4 are all died
[03:53] <favro> slacker_: why are you trying to mount /dev/sdc0 if it isn't there ?
[03:53] <slacker_> favro: if I open a root shell I can get fdisk -l
[03:54] <favro> k
[03:54] <favro> slacker_: is sdc there?
[03:54] <slacker_> favro: when I was using ubuntu 8.04 with Gnome instead of KDE it used to be sdc0
[03:54] <favro> ohh
[03:54] <slacker_> favro: now in my fstab it lists as hdb
[03:55] <favro> slacker_: what does fdisk -l call it now?
[03:55] <slacker_> Favro: /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[03:55] <slacker_> there is my fstab
[03:55] <slacker_> but hdb wont mount either
[03:55] <slacker_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[03:55] <slacker_> /dev/sda1               1        9726    78124063+  83  Linux
[03:55] <slacker_> /dev/sda2   *       10206       20023    78863085    b  W95 FAT32
[03:55] <slacker_> /dev/sda3            9727       10205     3847567+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[03:55] <favro> slacker_: what does fdisk -l call it now? and df -h?
[03:55] <dr_Willis> I wonder if the cd really is /dev/hdb
[03:55] <mrksbrd> try it w/ -f command (force)
[03:55] <dr_Willis> I dont think a cdrom shows up in fdisk -l
[03:55] <slacker_> well fdisk -l doesn't display it
[03:56] <dr_Willis> dmesg | grep cdrom
[03:56] <dr_Willis> might
[03:56] <slacker_> mrksbrd: what do you mean w/ -f command (force) sorry I am a bit of a newbie.
[03:56] <dr_Willis>  35.620675]  sdb:sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[03:56] <dr_Willis> shows mine at sdb
[03:56] <nathan_> How do I determine where my usb stick is mapped to for instance "/dev/sda"
[03:56] <dr_Willis> thats weird that it even IS a hdb
[03:56] <slacker_> dmesg | grep cdrom displays absolutleny nothing in a root shell
[03:56] <xa___> petardas.com
[03:57] <dr_Willis> nathan_,  dmesg output if you plug it in.. or 'sudo fdisk -l'
[03:57] <mrksbrd> dr_Willis: did anyone ever help lonewolf3000 w/his wifi card driver when I left earlier?
[03:57] <dr_Willis> slacker_,  try dmesg | grep cd
[03:57] <dr_Willis> mrksbrd,  no idea. I dident.. I dont know squat about wireless.. and im keeping it that way. :)
[03:58] <slacker_> dr_Willis: Is there a way I can paste this in one line so as to not get banned for flooding?
[03:58] <dr_Willis> 1 line wont be a flood...
[03:58] <mrksbrd> slacker: -f  forces it to load the h/w
[03:58] <slacker_> its a lot of lines
[03:58] <mrksbrd> k
[03:58] <dr_Willis> theres the pastebinit command thats handy. :)
[03:58] <dr_Willis> !paste
[03:58] <dr_Willis> or use the pastebin url
[03:58] <slacker_> !paste
[03:58] <slacker_> paste
[03:58] <slacker_> ?
[03:59] <dr_Willis> or look at the output and see if any looks relavent
[03:59] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:59] <dr_Willis> somecommand | pastebinit
[03:59] <nathan_> thanks dr
[03:59] <mrksbrd> click on the link to pastebin he just posted
[03:59] <dr_Willis> I think we should all suggest that pastebinit gets included by default in the next release. :)
[03:59] <slacker_> [   28.261578] ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
[03:59] <dr_Willis> I wonder if theres a gui for it.
[03:59] <slacker_> [   28.262142] ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: OHCI Host Controller
[03:59] <slacker_> [   28.262394] ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[03:59] <slacker_> [   28.262412] ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: irq 23, io mem 0xd2004000
[03:59] <slacker_> [   28.480227] ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: EHCI Host Controller
[04:00] <slacker_> [   28.480282] ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
[04:00] <slacker_> [   28.480312] ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: debug port 1
[04:00] <slacker_> [   28.480326] ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: irq 22, io mem 0xfeb00000
[04:00] <slacker_> [   28.489423] ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
[04:00] <slacker_> [   28.853134] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[04:00] <slacker_> whoops
[04:00] <dr_Willis> middle click  = pastes also. :)
[04:00] <dr_Willis> it would be below that last like...
[04:00] <dr_Willis> if ya plug in a gizmo and run dmesg over a few times in a few secs time ya  can see get 'seen' then scanned.. then shown where its at
[04:01] <dr_Willis> not sure of a good way to monitor the dmesg logs in a window.. used to be a command for that . but i forget what it is
[04:01] <slacker_> dr_Willis anything you can make of it?
[04:02] <dr_Willis> slacker_,  this is a usb thumb drive correct?
[04:02] <dr_Willis> unplug it.. check 'dmesg' , plug it in.. check 'dmesg' again
[04:02] <slacker_> dr_Willis: Mine was the CDROM problem you asked me for the dmesg | grep cd
[04:03] <dr_Willis> Im easially confused.. :)
[04:03] <slacker_> dr_Willis: and if this pertains to me, the only USB devices I have plugged in is my mouse.
[04:03] <Dragnslcr> dr_Willis- tail -f
[04:03] <slacker_> dr_Willis: As am I or I wouldn't be here... lol
[04:04] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. my cd showed a line like
[04:04] <dr_Willis> 20675]  sdb:sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[04:04] <dr_Willis> could try grepping for dvd, or 'drive' or tray also..
[04:04] <dr_Willis> or 'sr0'
[04:04] <mrksbrd> slacker: here is mine also .......  [   25.877207] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[04:05] <slacker_> dr_Willis: This is exactly why I reinstalled Ubuntu honestly. The cdrom drive works great  most of the time, but for some reason one day it just disappeared.
[04:05] <dr_Willis> Ive had issues with mine vanishing after i burn a cd/dvd.
[04:05] <slacker_> dr_Willis: I used this same CD-Rom to install Ubuntu so I know it works fine.
[04:05] <dr_Willis> I think the drive is going out...
[04:05] <slacker_> dr_Willis: The problem is its on 2 different cdrom drives.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> weirdness...
[04:06] <dr_Willis> ls -l /dev/cdrom
[04:06] <dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-08-31 07:58 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[04:06] <dr_Willis> shows it as scd0 here.
[04:06] <favro> 2 drives same cable?
[04:06] <dr_Willis> Im not clear on why its sdb in dmesg, then sdc0  in /dev/
[04:06] <slacker_> No there not both hooked up at once
[04:06] <slacker_> I switched to make sure one wasn't dead
[04:06] <slacker_> dr_Willis: when I do lsmod what would be the module for cdrom?
[04:07] <dr_Willis> Mine is a sata drive - that may be a differance
[04:07] <dr_Willis> slacker_,  as far as i know you shoyldent have to..  if its ide
[04:07] <slacker_> yea and mine is an IDE drive
[04:07] <dr_Willis> there is a cdrom module i see loaded here
[04:07] <slacker_> dr_Willis: ? I shouldn't need to what? lsmod?
[04:07] <dr_Willis> lsmod shows --> cdrom                  37408  1 sr_mo
[04:08] <slacker_> lsmod doesn't show a cdrom here for me
[04:08] <dr_Willis> try modprobing it and seeif it helps i guess
[04:09] <slacker_> modprobe cdrom?
[04:09] <mrksbrd> just a dumb idea but you didn't change any jumpers on the drive did you after upgrading to kde
[04:09] <slacker_> mkrsbrd: No I did not, and the reason I switched over to KDE was due to this same problem
[04:10] <slacker_> modprobe cdrom displays nothing
[04:10] <slacker_> but I get no errors
[04:11] <slacker_> mksrbrd, dr_Willis: I would like to blame the hardware including maybe the motherboard controller, but if it launches any livecd and any windows cd at any given time than why wouldn't it work after ubuntu is loaded?
[04:12] <dr_Willis> ive had some issues with the latest ubuntu and cd/dvd drives in several machines also..
[04:12] <dr_Willis> so im not sure where the fault lays
[04:12] <slacker_> Would a reinstall be adviseable?
[04:12] <dr_Willis> however in THIS box even under widnows.. it fails to burn properly allt he time.. and it cant format DVD+RW's i noticed..
[04:13] <dr_Willis> I dont know that a reilstall will help at all.
[04:13] <dr_Willis> reboot and seeif the drive is seen
[04:13] <chrziz> Hello
[04:13] <dr_Willis> try some live cd's  :) it should be seen then
[04:13] <slacker_> Mine is a straight up DVD/CD-ROM
[04:13] <slacker_> No burner =/
[04:13] <mrksbrd> lsmod showed you nothing about a cd-rom right?
[04:13] <dr_Willis> so its Just a Optical drive eh.. Old-Skool!
[04:13] <slacker_> mrksbrd: Correct.
[04:13] <slacker_> dr_Willis lol ya.
[04:14] <dr_Willis> I got a dozen of those in the garrage. :)
[04:14] <dr_Willis> couldent even GIVE them away at the rummage sale
[04:14] <mrksbrd> and no errors....just acting as though drive isn't even in machine right?
[04:14] <slacker_> dr_Wilis: I have had it for years lol. I'm just too cheap to get an upgrade tell it dies.
[04:15] <slacker_> mrksbrd: Correct.
[04:15] <dr_Willis> it seems lately  that optical drives dont last as long as they usedto. :(
[04:15] <mrksbrd> k hold on
[04:16] <chrziz> I'm having trouble getting my Broadcom wireless card working, anyone have any tips?
[04:17] <mrksbrd> slacker: pastebin your sudo fdisk -l for me
[04:18] <mrksbrd> chrziz: what model?
[04:19] <chrziz> Broadcom B43
[04:19] <mrksbrd> do u have ndiswrapper installed?
[04:20] <chrziz> no, I'm new to linux so I'm not really sure what that is
[04:20] <mrksbrd> k goto kmenu....system....adept
[04:21] <slacker_> mrksbrd: http://pastebin.com/f4477542b
[04:21] <chrziz> mrksbrd: ok, I'm there
[04:23] <slacker_> mrksbrd: Here is another really really odd thing.... fdisk -l marked my fat32 drive as being bootable? although I boot straight to my ext3 drive...
[04:24] <mrksbrd> chriziz: put ndiswrapper in search field & d/l package
[04:25] <mrksbrd> hmmm
[04:25] <chrziz> mrksbrd: thanks! i got it and am installing, is that all I need to do?
[04:26] <mrksbrd> not yet
[04:26] <mrksbrd> have to see if I can dccsend u the driver now
[04:26] <deathoncity> hi all
[04:27] <deathoncity> i am new in linux..and i have made a mistake
[04:28] <mrksbrd> chriziz: accept my dcc send
[04:28] <chrziz> mrksbrd: i've accepted, do i need to forware ports?
[04:28] <deathoncity> i tried to put another source in package manager in my kubuntu 8.04 and i have inserted some extra-code and it give me error
[04:28] <deathoncity> how can i edit my source list in terminal? i don't know any commands
[04:29] <deathoncity> please help
[04:29] <slacker_> are you using KDE or Gnome?
[04:29] <deathoncity> kde
[04:29] <slacker_> I am assumking KDE. I think sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:30] <slacker_> whoops
[04:30] <slacker_> thats not the source list lol
[04:30] <mrksbrd> chriziz:maybe if your behind a firewall
[04:30] <slacker_> you get the idea though?
[04:30] <deathoncity> i have tried cat sources.list..and it only show me the content..not allowes me to edit the content
[04:30] <deathoncity> any command to edit this document?
[04:30] <chrziz> mrksbrd: i have no firewall unless kubuntu comes with one, my router doesn't have one either, hmm
[04:31] <slacker_> the command is kate
[04:31] <slacker_> its an application
[04:31] <slacker_> you should have it by default if not sudo apt-get install kate
[04:31] <mr---t-> kate is an editor
[04:31]  * mr---t- to be clear
[04:32] <slacker_> sorry.
[04:32] <deathoncity> i have no permissions to write this document..
[04:32] <deathoncity> i am in a root terminal
[04:32] <dr_Willis> deathoncity,  dozens of editors out there.. you must use 'sudo' to edit system files
[04:32] <slacker_> try using sudo
[04:33] <dr_Willis> sudo nano /path/to/file.txt
[04:33]  * mr---t- prefers kate
[04:33] <dr_Willis> slacker_,  what was the issue? the wife called me away
[04:33] <dr_Willis> Its a good idea to learn to use a console editor or 2. :)
[04:34] <mrksbrd> chriziz: did u see anything popup in background to accept dcc
[04:34] <chrziz> mrksbrd: yes, I accepted, it just failed for some reason. I have no firewall installed that I know of, but I am on a LAN
[04:36] <deathoncity> ok..i'm in nano now..
[04:36] <deathoncity> i cannot find anything to edit this doc
[04:36] <chrziz> mrksbrd: what ports do i need to forward for DCC to work?
[04:37] <mrksbrd> if u don't have a firewall then u need not to worry
[04:37] <mrksbrd> let me see if i can just find the link again
[04:37] <chrziz> hmm, i don't unless kubuntu comes with one
[04:38] <dr_Willis> if on a lan - the router may be vlocking things
[04:38] <mrksbrd> nope
[04:38] <dr_Willis> deathoncity,  err.. nano is an editor.. care to give more details as to what you are trying to do?
[04:38] <mrksbrd> said he didn't have router w/firewall
[04:38] <dr_Willis> I wonder how a whole lan of machines gets to the internet without a router of some kind
[04:39] <chrziz> I have a router, no firewall though
[04:39] <deathoncity> worked
[04:39] <dr_Willis> the router could be blockign the stuff. you may need to forward some ports.
[04:39] <deathoncity> thanks a lot
[04:39] <dr_Willis> deathoncity,  great! :)
[04:40] <chrziz> that's what i figured, hopefully i can track down which ones
[04:42] <chrziz> mrksbrd: i've forwarded ports that are supposed to be for dcc, shall we try again?
[04:42] <mr---t-> q ? couldn't you post the driver somewhere and let him go get it?
[04:43] <slacker> mrkbrd: fdisk -l still shows the fat32 drive as beeing bootable.
[04:43] <slacker> mrkbrd: fdisk -l and still I have no cdrom drive
[04:44] <dr_Willis> fdisk -l - does NOT show up optical drives from what ive see
[04:44] <slacker> dr_Willis I meant to delete the fdisk - l and portion sorry.
[04:44] <dr_Willis> :)
[04:44]  * dr_Willis is just being clear
[04:45] <slacker> dr_Willis: I still have no optical drive though
[04:45] <mr---t-> sudo lshw?
[04:45] <chrziz> mrksbrd: I guess its not going to work, are the drivers your trying to send from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43?
[04:46] <slacker> mr---t: Were you speaking to me and if so would you like me to pastebinit?
[04:46] <mr---t-> yes
[04:47] <mrksbrd> chriziz: try sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[04:47] <mrksbrd> run that from terminal
[04:47] <chrziz> already did that, says they're installed, but still doesnt find my network
[04:49] <deathoncity> any idea how to upgrade kde4.0 to 4.1?
[04:49] <slacker> mr---t I appear to be doing something wrong the syntax for pastebinit is lshw | pastebinit
[04:49] <slacker> correct?
[04:50] <mr---t-> in terminal run sudo lshw then paste the output !paste
[04:50] <mr---t-> !paste
[04:50] <slacker> !paste
[04:51] <slacker> ?
[04:51] <mr---t-> just click the link paste your output record the url of your paste and post that url so we can look
[04:51] <slacker> k sorry got it now
[04:51] <slacker> one sec
[04:51] <dr_Willis> or use the command         lshw | pastebinit
[04:51] <dr_Willis> :)
[04:52] <dr_Willis> To make for KDE4.  a pastebinit plasmid
[04:52] <mrksbrd> chriziz: think u have the bug i keep seeing posted on net
[04:52] <dr_Willis> for my broadcom wireless  - think i had to use the ndiswrapper
[04:52] <dr_Willis> there was some guide i used, i had to blacklist a lot of other modules..
[04:52] <mr---t-> I did it both ways
[04:53] <chrziz> mrksbrd: i hope not, thanks for the help though
[04:53] <slacker> mr---t: http://paste.ubuntu.com/42301/
[04:53] <max__> hello could somebody tell me i downloaded kubuntu on dvd and the iso file is a zip, not like the cd of kubuntu which was afile. Should i extract it before burning it on a dvd? or just burn this iso file?
[04:53] <mr---t-> you have to blacklist the b43 drivers for one
[04:53] <dr_Willis> i also had to blaclisty the 'wl' driver for my lappy.
[04:54] <chrziz> how do you do that?
[04:54] <dr_Willis> max__,  a zip? ive never seen them be .zip NOW some tools try to associate themselfs with .iso and makes windows open them as if they were archives
[04:55] <mrksbrd> chriziz: read this......http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=870539
[04:56] <max__> well zip or tar or... it s a compressed folder .iso and i don't know if i must just burn it like this on a dvd or if i should first extract, in the goal to have a self executable dvd
[04:56] <slacker> mr---t: Any advice?
[04:56] <chrziz> mrksbrd: will do, thanks
[04:56] <dr_Willis> max__,  err.. a .iso is NOT a comrpesed folder
[04:56] <dr_Willis> use a tool like 'burn at once' or similer to burn it to disk
[04:57] <max__> well the file is a .iso and a folder too i don't understand??
[04:57] <dr_Willis> max__,  under windows?
[04:57] <dr_Willis> Some apps associate them selfs with .iso so you CAN access the files in them
[04:57] <dr_Willis> but you dont want to do it that way to burn them to disk
[04:58] <mrksbrd> chriziz: i found it........freewebs.com/ronserver/bcm43xx.tar.gz
[04:58] <mrksbrd> download that unzip to home directory
[04:58] <mrksbrd> then use ndiswrapper to install inf file
[04:58] <dr_Willis> 'burnatonce' 'isorecorder' 'cdburnerxp'   'infrarecorder' all can burn a .iso file to disk
[04:59] <mr---t-> slacker:  and you say the drive works as attached now in windows?
[04:59] <max__> i can access them inside. my problem is what should i put on the dvd to make it self starting after?
[04:59] <dr_Willis> max__,  you install some app like the ones i listed.. You start that app.. you tell it to load the .iso and hit burn...
[04:59] <chrziz> mrksbrd: thanks, i'll try it now
[04:59] <slacker> mr---t: well I don't have windows installed I simply put the windows xp disk in to see if it reads on boot which it does, it also reads 4 different Ubuntu livecd's including 1 64 bit version.
[04:59] <mrksbrd> let me know
[04:59] <dr_Willis> max__,  this is assuming you are doing this under windows....
[05:00] <dr_Willis> max__,  ive seen winrar and other silly apps  be to 'smart' and start opening .iso files as if they were archives..you do NOT want to access them that way to make a  dvd disk.
[05:01] <mr---t-> slacker:  well linux is not seeing the drive according to your paste
[05:01] <max__> ok. i tried to use burn ar once this morning but it failed
[05:01] <slacker> mr---t: I assumed that, but I am confused as to who it worked before, and not now? For instance I used the same drive in ubuntu 8.04 gnome for about 3 months and up until last week it does not see it.
[05:02] <slacker> *how
[05:02] <dr_Willis> Im thinking theres some kernel/issue/bugg with these vanishing cd/dvd drives... but i cant get much mor einfo on the problem
[05:02] <mrksbrd> max__: just use k3b to burn iso
[05:02] <dr_Willis> max__,  i was thinking Burnatonce may not handle 'dvd' only cd's - the others should work.
[05:02] <slacker> mr---t so I decided to go with a clean install of Kubuntu and same problem.
[05:02] <max__> ok
[05:02] <dr_Willis> infrarecorder - Im very sure can use dvd
[05:02] <max__> k3b?
[05:02] <dr_Willis> I rarely ever use the dvd iso images
[05:02] <max__> is it under windows?
[05:02] <dr_Willis> max__,  if you are under linux. k3b works fine.
[05:03] <mrksbrd> oh wait windows
[05:03] <slacker> mr---t: Maybe I will do another clean install and see if my drive is there before any updates. If so than thats my issue, if that doesn't work I can try to do a install with say Fiesty and see what that pulls up.
[05:03] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:03] <dr_Willis> !burn
[05:03] <mrksbrd> if your doing under windows use imgburn....google it...free d/l
[05:03] <dr_Willis> Theres a dozen tools  that can do it under wndows.. Heh
[05:03] <slacker> mr---t: Also this is an issue with two differeint cd-rom drives? That are not simeltanously hooked up.
[05:04] <max__> for burning i m under windows sorry (not for long i hope :) )
[05:04] <mrksbrd> chriziz: any luck?
[05:04] <dr_Willis> max__,  yea.. some of those tools have limited support for dvd iso files.. gotta watch out for that.
[05:05] <mrksbrd> max__: read my last
[05:05] <dr_Willis> infrarecorder seems to be the reccomded app to use by the ubuntu guis
[05:05] <dr_Willis> http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/
[05:05] <max__> ok thanks anyway i m going to check on google
[05:06] <mr---t-> slacker: stupid question , your cpu shows 64 bit , you installed the 64 bit version yes?
[05:06] <mrksbrd> ok ...sleeping pill is kicking in.......see ya all l8tr
[05:07] <myk_robinson> hey. You guys able to assist with intel 3954abg wireless?
[05:07] <ForgeAus> looks like another ugly gnome app
[05:07] <slacker> mr---t  no I did not.
[05:07] <chrziz> mrksbrd: ok, i've downloaded and used ndiswrapper on the inf, now I probably need to restart to see changes, right?
[05:07] <myk_robinson> been looking all night to no avail, about to try the intrepid alpha
[05:07] <slacker> mr---t: Trying to install the 64bit version gives me a busybox error
[05:07] <mrksbrd> yes
[05:07] <chrziz> ok, brb
[05:08] <mr---t-> can you boot to live 64 bit cd?
[05:08] <mrksbrd> did it say it see's your hardware?
[05:08] <slacker> mr---t: but with that brought up when I tried install in a .deb package just a moment ago it says Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[05:08] <slacker> mr---t: No I cannot make it past the initial load.
[05:09] <dr_Willis> 64bit package on a 368 machine.. or visa versa?
[05:09] <mr---t-> vice versa
[05:10] <slacker> mr---t: When I check the disk integrity, launch live cd, or begin install with the 64bit disk it gives me a busybox error everytime on all 3.
[05:10] <mr---t-> 64 bit amd dual core
[05:11] <slacker> mr---t I will try yet another optical drive and brb. This one is less than a year old, but i have to rip it out of another machine.
[05:12] <ForgeAus> what kinda DVD .iso limits does K3B have?
[05:14] <chrziz> hello all, I'm back, no luck still with finding my wireless network :(
[05:14] <DarkriftX> what do i search for to figure out how to make myself not need sudo for apt-get? i did it before but all i can find is how to start visudo, not what to edit
[05:15] <dr_Willis> DarkriftX,  you alter the sudoers file.. CAREFULLY
[05:15] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:15] <DarkriftX> yeah..... i know that much
[05:16] <dr_Willis> I think its somthing like
[05:16] <dr_Willis> youruser           ALL = (ALL) ALL
[05:16] <dr_Willis> but thats considerd bad security ;)
[05:17] <dr_Willis> I often do this change.. but i dont have it done on this box.
[05:17] <ForgeAus> or you could just use sudo -i
[05:17] <dr_Willis> im looking at the 'man sudoers' page
[05:17] <ForgeAus> still requires one password...
[05:18] <DarkriftX> me too
[05:18] <dr_Willis> bubba ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:18] <DarkriftX> and its not making much sense to me
[05:18] <DarkriftX> i just want to add certain commands that i dont need sudo for
[05:18] <dr_Willis> Might do it.. but keep a root shell open, and check befor you exit
[05:18] <DarkriftX> mount, umount and apt-get
[05:19] <dr_Willis> there are fuse tools i think that let users do most of the mount stuff.. if you need.
[05:20] <mr---t-> slacker:  any luck?
[05:20] <slacker> believe it or not yes
[05:20] <slacker> apparently I have two bad cd-rom drives?
[05:21] <slacker> To everyone who helped me with this issue thank you greatly for your time. I appreciate the help.
[05:21] <mr---t-> thats what I was getting alot on google
[05:21] <dr_Willis> or 2 that have the same chipset/bug affecting issue...
[05:21] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:21] <dr_Willis> it does seem optical drives die a lot faster now then they usedto
[05:21] <slacker> it's definatley odd that it takes any bootable cd
[05:21] <slacker> but not anything else.
[05:22] <slacker> I guess Ill just go spend the 30$ and get a real drive finaly lol.
[05:22] <dr_Willis> http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/man/sudoers.html#examples   is a lot more 'readable' then man sudoers
[05:22] <dr_Willis> slacker,  yep. and be amazed at the boost in speed
[05:22] <dr_Willis> Lightscribe/double/layer/makes cake!
[05:22] <slacker> dr_Willis: Ya but I always take the images of my cd's to my filesystem and mount them that way
[05:22] <ForgeAus> is KDM by default in kubuntu configured to accept XDMCP ???
[05:23] <ForgeAus> whatever that is
[05:23] <slacker> dr_Willis; therefor speed wasn't/isn't really an issue and I don't really do any burning.
[05:23] <dr_Willis> ForgeAus,  its disabled by default I belive
[05:23] <dr_Willis> for security
[05:23] <ForgeAus> ouch
[05:24]  * mr---t- has proccessor envy of slacker
[05:24] <ForgeAus> so how to run an embedded/nested KDE session if Xephyr -query localhost :1" doesn't work?
[05:24] <slacker> ?
[05:24] <slacker> it could be a quad core lol
[05:24] <DarkriftX> ahh, thx dr_Willis
[05:25] <dr_Willis> You could enable xdmcp I guess..
[05:25] <slacker> dr_willis, mrksbrd, and mr---t thanks for the help again.
[05:25] <mr---t-> yw
[05:25] <ForgeAus> firstly what is xdmcp and secondly how or is there another solution?
[05:26] <dr_Willis> You dont know what it is? :)
[05:26] <slacker> forgeaus, as dumb as this sounds, but that first portion of your sentence did you bother to type that in google? your response is going to be about the same lol.
[05:26] <dr_Willis> it lets a remote machine running X, connect and run apps on the server.. and have them appear locally
[05:26] <dr_Willis> the old way befor 'x forwarding over ssh' became popular
[05:27] <ForgeAus> sounds useful dr Willis, I guess theres VNC, RDP, etc for that kinda stuff tho
[05:27] <ForgeAus> esentially thats what I do with andLinux
[05:27] <dr_Willis> Xephyr -query localhost :1
[05:27] <dr_Willis> does work here.. and i have xdmcp enabled.
[05:27] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:28] <dr_Willis> Different tools for different tasks
[05:28] <dr_Willis> with windows, and xming, i can have a 'xdmcp' desktop on the windows machine in a window.
[05:28] <dr_Willis> similer to how  vnc works..
[05:28] <dr_Willis> OR i could have one linux app appearing in its own window on windows..
[05:29] <ForgeAus> is there a different way to login to kdm via Xephyr?
[05:29] <ForgeAus> yes xming
[05:29] <dr_Willis> or a fullscreen xdmcp desktop.. so basically it looks as if i was on the remote machine
[05:29] <alistair_> Help: just installed kubuntu and want to get Firefox 3. Have Firefox 2 but unlike Ubuntu, there does not seem to be any package updater program that I can find but sure there is can anyone advise where?
[05:29] <dr_Willis> You could always tell xephyr to launch 'startkde' or whatever
[05:29] <dr_Willis> but xdmcp is needed for the -query stuff I belive.
[05:29] <ForgeAus> I have used Xming (its a fork of cygwin's x-server ... although now it seems to be hosted by x-org themselves... alos theres an xming-mesa version but its slow)
[05:30] <ForgeAus> dr_willis I know that but startkde isn't really working for me
[05:30] <ForgeAus> well it works just not as well as I'd hoped
[05:30] <dr_Willis> I have xming on the windows box's.. i have xdmcp enabled on linux box.. I run the xlaunch tool on windows. and follow the wizard and tell it to start 'konsole' poof - i got a konsole on Windows.  :)
[05:30] <alistair_> Found adept manager tks!!
[05:31] <dr_Willis> I tend to not do the  thing fullscreen with xdmcp
[05:31] <ForgeAus> yup nice isn't it?
[05:31] <ForgeAus> well I tend to prefer the "desktop" to be in a window of its own
[05:31] <dr_Willis> vnc is nicer in some way.. depends on what you want to do
[05:32] <ForgeAus> my screenres is big enough to fit a 1024x768 or even maybe a little bigger in a window... no hassle
[05:32] <ForgeAus> (at least I can minimize it and forget it when I'm not using it)
[05:32] <ForgeAus> and have a (basically) fully functional embedded desktop
[05:32] <ForgeAus> its not like I'm expecting to do compiz in it or anything
[05:33] <dr_Willis> That wont work. :)
[05:34] <dr_Willis> wife was playing xmame, pacman via xdmcp the other day.. i had the sound in the basement however.
[05:34] <ForgeAus> lol
[05:38] <alistair_> Help: hey whats a good substitute for adobe flash player to play youtube etc?
[05:39] <ForgeAus> there are several options but none are really a good substitute imho
[05:39] <ForgeAus> swfdec and gnash are two
[05:40] <dr_Willis> 'get over your addiction to youtube'
[05:40] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:41] <ForgeAus> rofl :)
[05:41] <dr_Willis> how many times do you need to see someone else do anotehr remake of 'the internet is for porn' and read 200000000+ spammy or useless comments.
[05:41] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:43] <dr_Willis> Or usefullinfo like this    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An0mFZ3enhM
[05:46] <alistair_> ForgeAus, sorry I did not get ur message to me because it was not to my handle never mind now I see it and tks. Another thing I just tried to do, being a Windows user, was to click the clock to show the clock but you only get the date?
[05:46] <ForgeAus> as much as I hate to admit it porn is one thing the internet does get used for alot...
[05:47] <ForgeAus> uh I hate analog clocks takes me forever to read them
[05:47] <ForgeAus> not that I can't I'm just not adept at it
[05:48] <ForgeAus> theres lots of customizations you can do with the clock... I tend to make mine look digital in a frame... (but without the ugly lcd colours)
[05:50] <ForgeAus> I guess there'd be a superkarumba desktop "widgit" for a clock ...
[05:50] <dr_Willis> probly 100 of them
[05:51] <dr_Willis> Then 100 for webcams from around the world..
[05:51] <dr_Willis> and none that do what you actually want
[05:51] <shelby> how do you mount a ntfs hd in kubuntu
[05:52] <ForgeAus> dr Willis, if you can code one then perhaps you should make one that does what you actually want? which is what exactly?
[05:52] <ForgeAus> shelby I recommend using the -t ntfs-3g switch
[05:53] <ForgeAus> normally its something like sudo mount /dev/hda# /mountpointhere
[05:53] <dr_Willis> ForgeAus,  find porn!
[05:53] <dr_Willis> :)
[05:53] <ForgeAus> your going to use a clock to find porn, innovative...
[05:54] <dr_Willis> PornTime!
[05:54] <ForgeAus> not the kind of widget I need...
[05:55] <dr_Willis> widget? Keep it clean!  :)
[05:55]  * ForgeAus tosses drWillis a combobox
[05:55] <dr_Willis> !ohmy
[05:58] <ForgeAus> hmmm typical, the archive would have to be a .rar one when I'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade!
[05:59] <ForgeAus> (literally the middle too, how convenient)
[06:00] <ForgeAus> thats 2 relatively major things on the backburner, unrar, oh yeah I forgot Krusader but I think I'll leave that till after the second dist-upgrade
[06:00] <ForgeAus> and... the second thing was Xephyr
[06:01] <ForgeAus> here's hoping the second half of 886 packages is quicker than the first...
[06:07] <dr_Willis> well bb in a few
[06:11] <shelby> how do I list my harddrives in a terminal?
[06:25] <ForgeAus> can gdebi install a package while apt is locked during a dist-upgrade (downloading phase)
[06:28] <ForgeAus> looks like LSB is becoming less standard as it goes ! lol
[06:28] <ForgeAus> they already use rpm (their excuse is debian is standard-compiant because you can use alien)...
[07:22] <mKosto_away> hi
[07:23] <mKosto_away> ok im a linux newb so my question is kubuntu 8.04 KDE3 or KDE4 Remix, which would be better for me?
[07:23] <mKosto_away> also 64 or 32bit edition?
[07:25] <Tm_T> mKosto_away: kde3 is more "ready" in terms of features
[07:25] <mKosto> ok,
[07:26] <Tm_T> about bits, in the old days some proprietary binaries didn't work in 64bit, but these days it should not matter
[07:27] <Tm_T> go with your hardware bits, BUT if in any doubt, 32bit works
[07:27] <mKosto> ok
[07:28] <mKosto> i heard that of the 64 bits, its nice that is is now solved :)
[07:34] <devin> i got a second hdd with windows on it, what do i add in menu.list for ex: (hd1,0) fdisk shows windows being on /dev/sdb1
[08:03] <cayetano1> hi@all
[08:03] <cayetano1> how can i install firefox on kubuntu?
[08:05] <fale> cayetano1: sudo apt-get install firefox, in the terminal
[08:05] <posingaspopular> !firefox
[08:08] <cayetano1> fale: thanks :-)
[08:08] <fale> cayetano1: yw ;)
[08:09] <cayetano1> fale: from america?
[08:09] <fale> cayetano1: italy
[08:09] <fale> cayetano1: but I lived one year in the US
[08:09] <cayetano1> <-- german :-)
[08:10] <cayetano1> two weeks ago, i have been in italy
[08:19] <Richtopia>  i need help with my screen Resolution on my PS3 i have a 73" DLP HD tv HDMI  the screen is zoomed in i cant see the buttons like close or next and back and i have a black border a round the window so its not fitting the screen can anyone help?
[08:21] <Richtopia> can any help me with my problem?
[08:22] <cayetano1> bye
[08:22] <Richtopia>  i need help with my screen Resolution on my PS3 i have a 73" DLP HD tv HDMI  the screen is zoomed in i cant see the buttons like close or next and back and i have a black border a round the window so its not fitting the screen can anyone help?
[08:31] <Giant_Speck> I'm having some problems with k3b.  A few hours ago, I successfully burned a bunch of files onto a DVD-R, but when I went to burn a second disk, I kept getting a "fatal error at startup: input/output" error.  I've tried restarting and putting new discs in, but nothing is working so far.  Can anyone help me?
[08:36] <alistair_> help: how do you know when desktop effects/compiz is working?
[08:37] <hateball> alistair_: When you can use the effects?
[08:37] <alistair_> hateball, well I should have them but not sure what the effects are in KDE in ubuntu it is immediately obvious by windows actions
[08:38] <jussi01> alistair_: press ctrl+esc, and see if compiz is listed...
[08:39] <alistair_> jussi01, no its not but I followed the install screen
[08:39] <jussi01> alistair_: try this, alt+f2 then compiz --replace
[08:39] <Giant_Speck> Compiz doesn't start working out of the box.
[08:40] <alistair_> jussi01, do i type in exactly  compiz --replace???
[08:40] <jussi01> yes
[08:40] <jussi01> with out the ??? of course...
[08:40] <jussi01> :P
[08:41] <alistair_> now it shows it under processtable
[08:41] <Giant_Speck> The screen will go to black and then come back up.  Then you should be able to use compiz.
[08:41] <jussi01> so likely working now...
[08:42] <alistair_> Acht so............ I can see the effect now eg the screen minimize action is visible. Wonder why using the 'approved' install method did not work thanks vm!
[08:43] <jussi01> alistair_: which guide did you use?
[08:44] <alistair_> I used what I would expect to be the one - Desktop effects and it showed that it was installed as 'Extra Effects'
[08:45] <alistair_> jussi01, sorry but ive just moved over from Ubuntu and used to some of the methods there.
[08:46] <alistair_> Really like Dolphin FM it should be the default File Manager IMHO
[08:48] <alistair_> help: why should the adept notifier be on desktop and cannot close?
[08:48] <Giant_Speck> Because there is something wrong with it.
[08:48] <Giant_Speck> It does that sometimes.
[08:48] <jussi01> alistair_: thats a bug...
[08:48] <Giant_Speck> You need to kill the process.
[08:49] <Giant_Speck> I've found that it often happens after turning compiz on.
[08:49] <jussi01> alistair_: kde4 has its own desktop effects, so compiz has not been overly sorted for kde3
[08:49] <alistair_> whats the process to kill for the adaptec?
[08:50] <alistair_> Sri Adept Notifier whats the process?
[08:50] <jussi01> adept_notifier ?
[08:50] <Giant_Speck> Yes.
[08:50] <Giant_Speck> That's it.
[08:50] <alistair_> OK tks thats it.
[08:51] <alistair_> Lovely desktop thanks guys really like the KDE
[08:51] <Giant_Speck> Are you using KDE 4 or KDE 3?
[08:51] <alistair_> Tried KDE4 but its still in the 'too hard basket'
[08:51] <Giant_Speck> Yeah.
[08:52] <Giant_Speck> I totally agree.
[08:52] <alistair_> Exciting though - when its sorted its gonna blow every other o/s to the breeze
[08:58] <Giant_Speck> I REALLY wish I knew why k3b isn't working now when it was a few hours ago.
[08:58] <Giant_Speck> It's making me angry.
[09:01] <alistair_> Here is something nice (sorry about offtopic - I just have to shout about it) when I plug in my ASUS usb wifi adaptor; bang up she comes. Windoze needs drivers before it looks at it.
[09:04] <alistair_> Help: Amarok is showing playing one track but playing something completely different? Is this a bug?
[09:09] <Giant_Speck> Dang.  It won't even burn using gnomebaker or brasero.
[09:09] <Giant_Speck> -.-
[09:17] <alistair_> Help: using k3b it leaves the main window in your face seems cant minimize any ideas?
[09:19] <karname> hello , i try to install kde-4 in ubuntu with this code sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop but i get this eror , what should i do?
[09:25] <dr_willis> Hmmm what error.. and did you follow the guide at the following.. (like 3 lines ya gotta do)
[09:25] <dr_willis> !kde4
[09:30] <alistair_> help: is there a recommended 'package' of games like in Ubuntu you get a whole bunch installed by default?
[09:36] <dr_willis> alistair_,  not that ive seen.
[09:36] <dr_willis> other then the 'kde' games and gnome games packages.. (littel games)
[09:37] <Omar87> I've just updated Amarok 2 today, but it stopped playing audios due to wrong version of codecs, where do I get the correct ones??
[09:38] <Omar87> Any help please?
[09:38] <alistair_> Omar87, It should actually prompt you for the needed codecs - well thats happened here anyway
[09:39] <dr_willis> Im not even sure what 'audio codecs' the thing would be using
[09:40] <dr_willis> theres the w32codec pack on medibuntu, but thats mainly for video
[09:40] <Omar87> alistair_, no, all I got is a message that says something like: "Phonon claims it can not play MP3s... use the doc for more help... "
[09:41] <dr_willis> Im not even sure what Phonon is
[09:42] <cryingtux> hello
[09:43] <cryingtux> im looking for a voice to text package in kubuntu, do we have any such package?
[09:45] <alistair_> Omar87, but you said Amarok
[09:48] <Omar87> alistair_, Yes, this message pops out when I try to play an MP3 in Amarok Nightly
[09:51] <alistair_> Omar1, weird; mine asked permission to download the codec and its done so and works perfectly.
[09:51] <sam__> has anyone ever tried connecting a (k)ubuntu box to 2 ADSL modems
[09:53] <dr_willis> then you can ping eth1 from eth0 and DDos yourself!
[09:53] <dr_willis> :)
[09:55] <sam__> i want to loadbalance and evenly share the load over the two connections
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:10] <marco> hello
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> werd
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> youd think kubuntu had no issues with the room being so quiet
[10:16] <sorin_> UNDE ESTE UBUNTUM-RO
[10:16] <jussi01> !ro
[10:17]  * jussi01 hugs ActionParsnip
[10:18]  * ActionParsnip hugs jussi01 back
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> you ok jussi01?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to run an application automatically minimised rather than visible on the desktop
[10:37] <compilerwriter> actionparsnip you might be able to run it from the command line in the background
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: yeah its part of a startup but it runs normally and id like it to be on the taskbar and out of the way'
[10:38] <favro> or try man application - some have that as an option
[10:39] <compilerwriter> ActionParsnip what programme are you trying to run under stated circumstances? It really depends upon the programme
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> skype
[10:40] <compilerwriter> Sorry I don't have skype on my box I can't easily look into it for you ActionParsnip
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> compilerwriter: im looking into it now, cheers bro
[10:44] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: skype has an option for that
[10:45] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: its under the options dialogue
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> jussi01: yeah just found it. its for a dude in #ubuntu
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> :D
[10:45] <jussi01> ahh :)
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> looks like a score :D
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> cheers y'alls
[10:49] <mrxmike> is kde 4.1 good to use already, or does it crash a lot?
[10:49] <mrxmike> on hardy
[10:50] <jussi01> mrxmike: Id suggest asking in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mrxmike: no idea, i use fluxbox
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> mrxmike: does you current kde work ok?
[11:01] <mrxmike> !flash
[11:02] <mrxmike> can i use the packman repository with kubuntu? :)
[11:03] <mrxmike> ahh i see, its for opensuse only
[11:04] <jussi01> mrxmike: you may also want to look at !medibuntu
[11:04] <mrxmike> !medibuntu for mike
[11:04] <mrxmike> please
[11:05] <jussi01> !medibunt | mrxmike
[11:05] <jussi01> !medibuntu | mrxmike
[11:05] <jussi01> there...
[11:06] <mrxmike> ok, thank you! :)
[11:06] <Rioting_pacifist> my friend recently turned my laptop off "by the mains" and now kwin doesnt start at the start of a session. how do i fix this
[11:09] <mrxmike> medibuntu.. what a bad name.. sounds like another ubu distro..
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: do you get any messages on screen?
[11:11] <Rioting_pacifist> ActionParsnip: no nothing at all everything starts up, as the session shutdown but kwin doesnt meaning the system tray is messed up, there is now other window manager running because alt+f2 kwin works
[11:12] <mrxmike> is there a VLC repos?
[11:13] <dr_willis> mrxmike,  ive not noticed any with updated vlc. medibuntu repo may have some with extra fetures enabled.. but i dont think it does.. theres the 'ppa' personal repos that often have updated programs also
[11:13] <dr_willis> !ppa
[11:13] <Rioting_pacifist> mrxmike: mediabuntu used to be part of PLF i think, mediabuntu means the repo can contain stuff ubuntu cant (mostly media stuff)
[11:15] <Rioting_pacifist> id guess ubuntu main uses vlc with decss anyway so vlc in repos should be the same as that in mediabuntu but there is a chance that theres a mediabuntu version that works better than the canonical one
[11:16] <mrxmike> problem is, the vlc version in the main repos is from 2007
[11:17] <mrxmike> i've added the medibuntu repos, but there doesnt seem to be another version in there
[11:17] <markc> weird 56k dialup network problem with a fresh hardy install, I can ping and dig just fine from konsole but all desktop gui apps cannot resolve dns, or are not seeing the default ppp0 route... anyone else seen this or have a clue ?
[11:17] <dr_willis> I cant seem to figure how to  search the ppa stuff..
[11:17] <dr_willis> I would think the vlc version would be about 6 mo old.
[11:17] <markc> I've tried install dnsmasq and resolvconf, no difference
[11:18] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/vlc
[11:19] <mrxmike> dr_willis: that is rediculous.. VLC is one of the (if not THE) best mediaplayers out there
[11:19] <dr_willis> whats rediculous?    I'm on a laptop.
[11:48] <mrxmike> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[11:49] <mrxmike> .. then better not clean it fully open...........
[11:49] <mrxmike> there's dust all over in the air, even while you dont see it..
[11:49] <mrxmike> so next time, just close it so far that the lens is just in the laptop.. :)
[11:49] <Giant_Speck> Right.
[11:49] <Giant_Speck> Well, at least it's working now.
[11:49] <mrxmike> :)
[11:50] <Giant_Speck> I was wondering why it would recognize blank DVDs but not burned ones.
[11:50] <mrxmike> i wish i could clean the lens of my player (build in desktop player) that easily
[11:51] <Giant_Speck> I love my Toshiba, even though it's outdated.
[11:51] <Giant_Speck> Still running strong after almost two years.
[11:51] <mrxmike> i love my thinkpad.. even while its outdated.......... after 4yrs ;D
[11:53] <Giant_Speck> I needed to burn off all of my music because it was clogging up my hard disk space.  And I wanted the burner to work because I want to download OpenSuSE 11 and attempt to triple-boot it with my existing Windows and Kubuntu
[11:53] <Giant_Speck> That's going to be fun.
[11:53] <mrxmike> dont
[11:54] <mrxmike> opensuse ..  i just removed
[11:54] <mrxmike> because its becomming a heavy hog like vista
[11:54] <DocTomoe> suse was a memory hog back in 2004, when I finally got rid of it. why should it have become better?
[11:55] <mrxmike> DocTomoe: dunno, ill stick with kubu hardy / kde 4.1 for comming while
[11:56] <CyberLazi> hello?
[11:56] <Giant_Speck> I guess I should try it in a VirtualBox instead, then.
[11:57] <Giant_Speck> I want to eventually try FreeBSD, but that's going to be a while off.
[11:58] <CyberLazi> "When using sudo, the password is stored by default for 15 minutes. After that time, you will need to enter your password again. " It means 15 minutes is the default timestamp. How do i change it? that effects both "sudo",  and "kdesu"
[12:00] <mrxmike> Giant_Speck: well.. you can experiment.. kubu is a good choice for daily use..
[12:00] <Giant_Speck> mrxmike: That's precisely why I'm doing it: to experiment.
[12:01] <Giant_Speck> It's the whole reason I even started using Linux in the first place.
[12:08] <Guest65285> hmmm kdm is causing me problems... at first it was a package related to pam  (I don't remember the exact name) that wanted to restart it, but it just booted me out of X essentially
[12:10] <eyzee> hello...is anybody there!!!
[12:10] <jussi01> no...
[12:10] <eyzee> hahahahha
[12:10] <DocTomoe> anybody went for dinner
[12:10] <eyzee> ..ow
[12:10] <ForgeAus> never met him personally :)
[12:10] <jussi01> eyzee: just ask for your question ;)
[12:11] <eyzee> ...anyway...am new with this ubuntu o.s.
[12:11] <eyzee> ...just tryin if my system really works
[12:12] <eyzee> ... thus it work like MIRC does...
[12:12] <ForgeAus> it?
[12:13] <ForgeAus> Konversation is a little like mIRC in that they're both IRC clients... if thats what you mean
[12:14] <eyzee> ...yup..
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> its quiet today, maybe eveyone should use kde and have zero issues :D
[12:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ActionParsnip: those two are mutually exclusive
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> im kidding, its just dead in here
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> so i figured it worked ;)
[12:39] <|Dreams|> anyone know a usenet binary client that supports ssl and nzb?
[12:40] <Daisuke_Ido> |Dreams|: try to keep your question to one channel or the other
[12:41] <|Dreams|> why? i thought if no1 knew in here they might kno in there?
[12:41] <|Dreams|> or is that not allowed i apoligise if am in the wrong
[12:42] <jussi01> |Dreams|: many of us are in both channels - its considered impolite to ask everywhere at once.  ;)
[12:42] <Daisuke_Ido> you asked at roughly the same time
[12:43] <|Dreams|> ok
[12:43] <|Dreams|> sorry
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> klibido might support ssl
[12:43] <Daisuke_Ido> hellanzb as well
[12:44] <|Dreams|> no it doesnt
[12:44] <|Dreams|> you have to use stunnel with that
[12:44] <|Dreams|> i am just looking into SABnzbd
[12:44] <|Dreams|> thanks
[12:53] <cayetano1> wie kann ich den adobe flash player unter kubuntu installiern?
[12:53] <jussi01> !de | cayetano1
[12:54] <jussi01> !flash | cayetano1
[12:56] <Guest177> i like the kubuntu
[12:56] <Guest177> how can i make a normal user get sudo permission?
[13:00] <elitrou> g177 - your point is unclear.
[13:03] <ForgeAus> Guest177 the reason for sudo is for security purposes its not recommended to give a user root permissions, thats why sudo exists...
[13:03] <ForgeAus> oops he's left lol
[13:10] <pidgintest> :-D
[13:21] <mrxmike> pidgin-test!!?! lol :D
[13:23] <pidgintest> jo, mal testen
[13:27] <mrxmike> !english pidgintest
[13:27] <mrxmike> !english
[13:28] <pidgintest> keep cool dude
[13:28] <mrxmike> I AM THE COOLEST =)
[13:29] <mrxmike> why the hell does firefox its fonts look so ugly by default on kubuntu/linux?
[13:31] <vagastorm> what is a good program for handeling xiped files in kde?
[13:31] <vagastorm> thats suposed to be ziped, gzip, tar etc files
[13:32] <jussi01> ark
[13:32] <jussi01> !info ark
[13:34] <vagastorm> um, ark refuses to unzip files in a folder unless that folder is expanded :( even if I select extract all instead of selected.... I would prefer an alternative :)
[13:38] <pidgintest> !sysinfo
[13:39] <Master4e> can someone help me how to install firefox on kubuntu
[13:40] <Dragnslcr> Open Adept, select Firefox, click install, click Apply Changes
[13:40] <Dragnslcr> Or not
[13:45] <lunix_> buenassssssss
[13:45] <lunix_> alguine me echa un cabo porfavor con la impresora
[13:45] <markc> howdy, what kde daemon is responsible for providing DNS to knowueror and other apps ?
[13:45] <lunix_> me esta imprimiendo en verde y quiero que imprima en negro y no se como cambiarlo
[13:46] <bazhang> !es | lunix_
[13:46] <lunix_> thk
[13:46] <concernedcitizen> hey guys anyone here having problems trying to install virtualbox?
[13:46] <concernedcitizen> on hardy heron kubuntu?
[13:47] <concernedcitizen> when trying to apt-get the virtualbox-ose-generic modules, I'm getting a package broken error
[13:50] <Dragnslcr> markc- unless you're running Bind for some reason, there is no daemon, they just use nslookup
[13:51] <markc> yes... but I have the strangest situation where a dialup connection is totally fine from konsole (ping etc) but none of the gui apps can resolve any hosts (konq, firefox, kmail etc)
[13:56] <markc> I'll be damned, it was because knetworkmanager was still running, even though I had wireless and lan disabled it seems it and kppp for dialup don't like each other
[13:56] <Dragnslcr> Running nslookup from a shell returns correct IP addresses?
[13:56] <Dragnslcr> That's a bit bizarre
[13:56] <markc> it did... as noted, when I killed knetworkmanager I could surf with konq
[13:56] <Dragnslcr> Maybe KDE apps weren't trying to use the PPP connection
[13:58] <markc> everything looked fine from a shell (which I normally use) like ifconfig and route, /etc/resolv.conf (or the resolvconf package stuff) had the right perms... dnsmasq was working... 2nd dig lookups reutnr 0ms etc
[13:59] <markc> anyone happen to have a dell laptop with a conexant internal modem ?
[14:00] <markc> I've got some init strings from windows that gets me 50k connects (otherwise 33k)
[14:01] <markc> god I hate 56k dialup connections
[14:03] <YippMN> hey guys i'm trtying to get kubuntu installed on a friends machien but now it seems to not find the screens, guess resolution didn't get set right , what file can i go and do that in?
[14:04] <YippMN> even the live cd can't bring up kdm because of this hmmmm,and it worked yesterday
[14:05] <markc>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... perhaps try "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig" and restart x (startx)
[14:05] <markc> as root
[14:06] <YippMN> ok i'll give it a try
[14:07] <sorin_> cine imi poate da ubuntu ro
[14:07] <sorin_> #ubuntu-ro
[14:08] <YippMN> markc, hmm so why wouldn't the live cd be able to get it right today when it did yesterday
[14:09] <markc> could be any number of factors
[14:10] <markc> does x start for you without xord.conf ?
[14:11] <YippMN> well no when i boot into the system it blank the screen thre times and sits at command promt and i'm asuming it's trying to start kdm, and also the same happens with trying to boot the live cd
[14:11] <katharina> hello *wave*
[14:11] <YippMN> when i then do startx it blanks a couple times and says no screens found
[14:11] <Guest9526> hi
[14:12] <markc> you sure you have no xorg.conf at all ?
[14:12] <markc> what kubuntu version ?
[14:12] <magdalena_> hi @ all
[14:13] <YippMN> no i didn't say i don't have xorg.conf , just that screen resolution must be getting set right for my monitor
[14:13] <YippMN> i guess ver 8.0? just burned it two days ago and things didn't work when i installed from the live cd so i burned the alternate install
[14:14] <YippMN> resolution must NOT be getting set right :)
[14:14] <YippMN> but , when i used the live cd yesterday and then installed fromthere both tbooted up to kde
[14:15] <YippMN> and without changing anythign neither boots to kde today :)
[14:17] <markc> doh!
[14:17] <YippMN> just found this command on a forum hmmm , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will that be a good way to get the screen resolution set to what my monitor is?
[14:18] <markc> do you know what your monitor does ... 1280x1024 ?
[14:18] <YippMN> the guy says it will walk you through restting things like resolution
[14:18] <markc> worth a try... easier to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly and add your exact res
[14:18] <YippMN> yeah the monitor is set at oh , somehting like 31.5 and 740x 400 around there i would have to go downstairs and looka gain to make sure
[14:19] <YippMN> well guess i can look at both then :)
[14:19] <markc> must be a real old monitor
[14:19] <markc> that's an odd res
[14:19] <YippMN> wel its a bit old it's a g78 forget whos it is though
[14:20] <YippMN> well in it's menu you can see a list of other res but i can't change it somehow
[14:20] <YippMN> hang on
[14:26] <YippMN> markc,  ok it's an IBM G78 , allways have used it when i fix friends machines and such , res in the menu is set at 31.5kz 70hz and 720x400 , yeah wierd res hmm
[14:27] <markc> can you get to a shell as root ?
[14:27] <YippMN> it shows a list of other res but trying to see if i can change that
[14:28] <YippMN> well right now it's setting at command line in live cd , but yeah i canget it booted to the installed kubuntu and get a commandline and should be able to get loged as root
[14:28] <YippMN> ut whats strange is yeterday i have it installed and kde up and also had kde up in live cd mode
[14:30] <markc> you could try a test on the livecd without hurting anything... sudo -i , then cd /etc/X11 , mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig , startx and see what happens
[14:31] <markc> maybe control-d back to the non-root user then startx
[14:51] <eyzee> ..hi there...
[14:52] <eyzee> ...can anybody pls tell me how to open windows executable file to linux o.s.?
[14:52] <eyzee> hello...is anybody there!!!
[14:53] <jpds> !wine | eyzee
[14:53] <jpds> !patience | eyzee
[14:53] <eyzee> okey...thank you very much
[15:17] <YippMN> anyone? ive installed kubuntu useing the alterante install , and for some reason it's not getting a screen with the right resolution to startx hmmm , also it does the same thing when i try to run the live cd, and yesterday the live cd worked finem and also the install i did off the live cd ?
[15:17] <YippMN> how can i fix this other than trying to reinstall?
[15:20] <YippMN> i've installed kubuntu useing the alternate install cd and kdm won't start looks like screen resolution is being wierd how can i get kdm to load?
[15:21] <goldemtal2> how to setup vpn connection?
[15:29] <moope1> andrew@pingu:~$ sudo apt-get install cinepaint
[15:29] <moope1> Reading package lists... Done
[15:29] <moope1> Building dependency tree
[15:29] <moope1> Reading state information... Done
[15:29] <moope1> Package cinepaint is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[15:29] <moope1> E: Package cinepaint has no installation candidate
[15:29] <moope1> meh
[15:30] <YippMN> i've installed kubuntu useing the alternate install cd and kdm won't start looks like screen resolution is being wierd how can i get kdm to load?
[15:39] <YippMN> i've installed kubuntu useing the alternate install cd and kdm won't start looks like screen resolution is being wierd how can i get kdm to load? can't seem to get /etc/X11/xorg.conf to show up
[15:45] <cilkay> Hi. I notice that the Kubuntu installer doesn't support LVM. Is there a workaround to that?
[15:45] <cilkay> I've installed Ubuntu and then installed the KDE packages from the Kubuntu CD but that seems a roundabout way of doing it and I end up getting a bunch of Gnome apps that I really don't want.
[15:48] <YippMN> cilkay,  LVM ?
[15:49] <cilkay> If you have to ask :)
[15:49] <cilkay> Logical Volume Manager
[15:50] <YippMN> ahh ok hehe , well i installed kubuntu from the live cd and the live cd and kubuntu worked ok , but adept was being wierd , so , i reinstalled from the alternate cd and now neither the install or live cd can get kdm to start :)
[15:51] <YippMN> so, how do i get them to load kdm?
[15:52] <YippMN> hate to have to run the install again
[15:53] <cilkay> Will kdm start with the Live CD?
[15:53] <YippMN> nope but it did yesterday
[15:54] <cilkay> Which chipset on the vid card?
[15:54] <YippMN> maybe have to pop knoppix in see if that works
[15:54] <cilkay> good idea
[15:54] <YippMN> hmm don't remember the chipset
[15:54] <cilkay> That's important.
[15:55] <YippMN> well it has errors that ti an find screens but settings are wrong or somthing
[15:56] <YippMN> but see the strange thing is that when i instaleld from the live cd which was working fine , the install booted into kdm just fine but adept was being wierd and so someone said install from the alternate cd and i did
[15:56] <cilkay> Find the chipset and Google for it. If you're experiencing this, someone else already has.
[15:56] <cilkay> Still, strange that it would have worked yesterday and not today.
[15:57] <YippMN> thats what i mean the live cd shouldn't have a peoblem
[15:58] <cilkay> Try Knoppix. Maybe your vid card died.
[15:58] <cilkay> ... which would be an unfortunate coincidence.
[15:58] <YippMN> only thing i can figure is that i did install gentoo to see how the text installer was and then just went and installed kubuntu after that cause the machine isn't fast ebough for compiling and figured kubuntu would be btter for my friend to work with :)
[15:59] <YippMN> but if the vid card died i wouldn't be able to do anything in commandline either would i?
[15:59] <cilkay> true
[15:59] <cilkay> You're able to do that.
[15:59] <cilkay> So what does the xorg log say?
[15:59] <YippMN> yes i can get to commandline
[16:00] <YippMN> i did look , i haven't played with that on this gentoo machine in some time so i don;t remember :)
[16:00] <YippMN> i didn't , look
[16:01] <YippMN> hmm i should have that machine next to me , it's downstairs cause theres not enoughroo in the office
[16:01] <YippMN> well goona go try knoppix once
[16:08] <bleaked> i'm running hardy and have a lot of the various official and semi official repos enabled (hardy-proposed, hardy-backports, etc).. i just ran an update which updated quite a few major components to the base distro and kde.. i rebooted (since it was a kernel update too).. everything works great except kicker crashes, even if it is run manually.  something about a segfault and libc 6 or something.. i have a backtrace if needed.
[16:12] <tofiq> lost
[16:12] <tofiq> what
[16:12] <tofiq> hello
[16:13] <tofiq> i have problem
[16:15] <frybye> hi - I accidentally deleted the k-meu button/widget - and when I "added" it back - it appears on the far right instead of far left of the "task bar"  how can I get it back on the left?
[16:15] <frybye> btw.. I am refering to kde-4.1
[16:18] <jussi01> frybye: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)
[16:19] <frybye> thanks jussi01
[16:20] <jussi01> frybye: if you go there Ill answer your question...
[16:23] <tofiq> see u
[16:24] <jussi01> !ask | tofiq
[16:25] <tofiq> ok
[16:34] <frybye> jussi01: I have the answer now - thanks anyhow...
[16:37] <timo_> #ultrastar-ng
[16:38] <Tm_T> o k
[16:41] <neWbie> yesterday i was asking for help about uploading images, can someone help?
[16:42] <jussi01> neWbie: please repeat your question
[16:42] <neWbie> ok
[16:43] <neWbie> i cant upload images on the internet, the upload starts and then it takes ages, never finishes... why?
[16:45] <OzoneNerd> Is there a key command to bring up Konsole, and if there isn't how would I make such a command?
[16:46] <jussi01> !shortcuts | OzoneNerd
[16:46] <jussi01> OzoneNerd: also, look at the package, yakuake
[16:46] <neWbie> jussi01: any idea about why i cant upload images?
[16:46] <jussi01> !info yakuake
[16:46] <OzoneNerd> Thank you.
[16:47] <jussi01> OzoneNerd: yakuake is very nice
[16:47] <jussi01> neWbie: no idea at all, is it just one site? or all of them?
[16:47] <OzoneNerd> apt-getting now.
[16:48] <neWbie> any site i try
[16:48] <neWbie> someone said it might be a flash prob
[16:49] <jussi01> neWbie: which browser?
[16:50] <neWbie> mozilla
[16:52] <minaanis_> hello everybody, i am new to ubuntu and i am running ubuntu ultimate edition 1.9 AMD ultimate edition and i have a problem in my sound system
[16:52] <jussi01> !ultimate | minaanis_
[16:52] <mlins> What's the best version of kubuntu to install on the PS3? I tried 8.04.1 (alternate ps3) and it fails on libc6 during installation and eventually hangs when 'storing languages.'
[16:52] <jussi01> !ps3
[16:53] <jussi01> mlins: try joining #ubuntu-ps3
[16:53] <minaanis_> i was facing the same problem with ubuntu Hardy AMD64
[16:53] <Tm_T> 1851.41 < jpds> → https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek → #ubuntu-classroom - in 10 minutes.
[16:53] <mlins> jussi01: thanks
[16:53] <jpds> Tm_T: Hmm.
[16:54] <Tm_T> jpds: (:)
[16:54] <jussi01> minaanis_: we dont support ubuntu ultimate here, sorry
[16:54] <minaanis_> simply the problem is .. when i turn on any program that uses the audio device and try to run any other program with needs audio support .. it gives error with audio or playback device
[16:54] <minaanis_> it is not
[16:55] <minaanis_> i am running ubuntu hardy AMD64 on my laptop and it has the same problem
[16:55] <minaanis_> it is either you know how to help me solving my problem or not
[16:55] <minaanis_> it is either you know how to help me solving my problem or not?
[16:58]  * UCV is away: Away at the moment
[16:58] <xx> lol
[17:11] <Pers3UX> Hi! does kubuntu 8.04.1 has kde 4.1 ?
[17:13] <Pers3UX> * have ;)
[17:14] <Pers3UX> Pers3UX: STFW
[17:14] <Dragnslcr> Not by default, but you can install it
[17:14] <juan> how can i access an lvm from a live cd
[17:15] <Dragnslcr> !kde4 | Pers3UX
[17:15] <cilkay> juan: I asked the same question a bit earlier. Don't have an answer for Kubuntu. I can access them without a problem from Ubuntu or other distros.
[17:15] <Pers3UX> thx Dragnslcr
[17:15] <cilkay> "them" being LVM volumes
[17:16] <juan> cikay but ubuntu has the same core :s , suppose i could use toram then burn a ubuntu disk :s
[17:16] <cilkay> juan: It looks the Kubuntu installer doesn't support LVM.
[17:16] <juan> ahh is it possible to update the kernel on a livecd then?
[17:17] <cilkay> I've installed Ubuntu and then KDE on top of it. It works fine, except I got all the Gnome stuff I don't need.
[17:17] <cilkay> I'm not sure that it's only a kernel issue.
[17:17] <cilkay> The partitioning tool might not support LVM either.
[17:18] <juan> cikay i had a working kubuntu install on an lvm partiton then i broke fstab
[17:19] <juan> only livecd i have is ubuntu tho
[17:19] <juan> or dsl
[17:20] <juan> i can use command line tools but i get an error "  /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?"
[17:25] <sredna> hi
[17:25] <sredna> is there a package that contains the latest nvidia driver?
[17:26] <sredna> and b), is there a way to upgrade digikam on hardy, it
[17:26] <sredna> s a very old version that is installed
[17:27] <starenka> hi. i just opened amarok and it claims that it cannot play mp3s (it played them mere hour ago). it says something about bad demux plugin. any clues?
[17:28] <cilkay> juan: I thought of a way to install Kubuntu and have LVM, but it's a bit fiddly. Create three primary partitions, the first only 200M or so, the second, 8GB or so, assuming that's big enough to hold all of the K installation, the third the balance of the disk. The balance of the disk can be left unused, actually so you really need two partitions, one small, one about 8GB.
[17:28] <cilkay> juan: You're going to install K into the 8GB partition.
[17:28] <starenka> btw ai think something is screwed up generally cause, kaffeine also refuses to make any noise and wants to dl plugin (fails with error - plugin aloready installed)
[17:29] <cilkay> juan: you're going to reboot with a Live CD that supports LVM and create your volume group and volumes in the free space.
[17:29] <cilkay> juan: You're going to move all the stuff that's in /boot into the small volume. Actually, you could have just made the small partition /boot on the original K install.
[17:30] <cilkay> You don't have to fiddle with GRUB if you do it on the original install.
[17:31] <juan> i dont want to install ubuntu i just need to edit my /etc/fstab on an lvm partition from a livecd/usb boot
[17:31] <cilkay> juan: Copy everything in your 8GB partition, the one that has all the filesystems except /boot, into your newly-created LVM volumes.
[17:31] <starenka> ---solved---
[17:31] <cilkay> Make the 8GB partition swap.
[17:32] <cilkay> Modify grub.conf to point to the new /
[17:32] <cilkay> Reboot.
[17:33] <juan> cikay the easiliest way to install kubuntu on lvm is use the alt cd, infact if i find an alt cd that should support it, just need to figure out how to get a livecd given i have no harddrive
[17:33] <cilkay> I've done stuff like this on remote servers where I had no access to the console so it is possible to do.
[17:36] <juan> this is just my desktop machine no storage space lying around, the kubuntu cd can see the lvms but it says thier inactive and keeps giving me an error. i might be able to get my hands on aubuntu live cd if you say they work though
[17:36] <cilkay> Ubuntu Live worked for me.
[17:37] <juan> with toram i can remove a cd from the drive right?
[17:38] <Fargh> quick question
[17:38] <Fargh> how can i login to create some space
[17:38] <cilkay> I don't know what toram is.
[17:38] <Fargh> seems i cant log in due to lack of free space
[17:38] <Fargh> with KDE
[17:40] <graeme> hey guys, having problems getting updates installed, get the following message:
[17:40] <graeme> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[17:40] <graeme> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:40] <graeme> can  anyone help on this one
[17:40] <cilkay> Fargh: Boot from a live CD, mount the filesystems on your disk and determine which one is full and throw stuff overboard until you free up enough disk space.
[17:40] <graeme> I am a newbie
[17:40] <jussi01> graeme: have you tried what is says?
[17:41] <jussi01> graeme: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:41] <graeme> yup run in termial?
[17:41] <jussi01> yes
[17:41] <graeme> ok will try
[17:41] <juan> cikat toram is a livecd option that loads the os into ram
[17:41] <juan> s/cikat cilkay
[17:42] <cilkay> juan: So you pass it as a boot option?
[17:42] <juan> yeah at the start of a livecd you type linux toram or something like that
[17:43] <graeme> thanks guys, that worked much appreciated
[17:43] <cilkay> juan: I presume that enables you to eject the cd once the system has booted and pop in another one.
[17:44] <graeme> Thanks very much jussi01
[17:44] <jussi01> graeme: no probs
[17:45] <juan> ill try that with ubuntu if i dont figure out a way to use ksplice think id need the actuall kernel patch that gets applied to get mapper to work
[17:50] <arturo> hi
[17:50] <arturo> im new italian user of ubuntu...can u help me?
[17:50] <jussi01> !it
[17:51] <jussi01> arturo: also, just ask! :)
[17:55] <skybinary> is there a channel for edubuntu?
[17:57] <penguiniator> skybinary: yes
[17:57] <skybinary> penguiniator: thanks
[17:58] <skybinary> altho my problem is related to ubuntu, after i installed it again on another disk and partition it doesnt list in the grub thingy
[17:58] <skybinary> altho the drive is in 'computer:///'
[18:00] <penguiniator> skybinary: you'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to add it
[18:01] <skybinary> penguiniator: ahh i tried that too, also the update-grub
[18:01] <skybinary> but being an absolute noob at linux i havnt a clue how to address the partition/drive i installed the new ubuntu on
[18:02] <penguiniator> hmm... try man grub... or google... the addressing is similar to (hd0,0) for first drive first partition... I think
[18:02] <skybinary> ahh fanks
[18:03] <skybinary> *thankyou
[18:10] <Nece228> when firefox 3.0.2 will be released?
[18:12] <icarus> hi all... where would be the best place to report a bugfix for kde4.1 package?
[18:13] <icarus> (the fix is not by me, but I would like to see it in the next upgrade ;)
[18:13] <BluesKaj> #kubuntu kde4 would be the place, icarus
[18:13] <icarus> ah :)
[18:13] <BluesKaj> err #kubuntu-kde4
[18:14] <icarus> thanx, that makes sense :)
[18:14] <icarus> rock on ppl
[18:16] <c0n> Hey.
[18:18] <skybinary> Yo.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> heyo
[18:22] <c0n> Sup :D
[18:22] <BluesKaj> not much, taking a day off from house projects
[18:29] <guest__> buenass
[18:29] <guest__> no se instalar mi tarjeta grafica algien me puede ayudar un poko?
[18:30] <yooo> hola
[18:30] <yooo> hay algien?
[18:33] <jussi01> !es | guest_
[18:34] <marek_> hi how can i clean kde sssion files?
[18:35] <marek_> i have problem with logging
[18:44] <tdn> I have just bought a USB wireless network card. How do I add this to my system, so I can use it? My system is a Thinkpad T61p. It already has an Intel wlan card, but I would like to use the new USB one.
[18:49] <CarDinaL-> hello lads, can i pm some1 for some help?
[18:50] <rabindra> i just installed kubuntu, adept batch is not able to install anything, i tried to enable nvidia restricted drivers
[18:50] <nejode> tdn: USB network cards are a pain in the youknowwhere
[18:51] <rabindra> but it starts and a message comes that there was some problem in download
[18:51] <CarDinaL-> i instaled kubuntu, and get access my internet
[18:51] <CarDinaL-> cant*
[18:51] <CarDinaL-> its usb broadband cant find where to install it
[18:52] <tdn> nejode, they are? Why?
[18:53] <nejode> tdn: not too many are supported... I'll give you a link
[18:54] <tdn> nejode, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 <- This is the one I have.
[18:54] <YippMN> i just installed kubuntu for the second time from the alterbnter install cd and it still won't load kdm , how can i fix this
[18:55] <YippMN> ooppss thats alternate install cd
[18:55] <jussi01> YippMN: which gfx card  do you have?
[18:55] <myk_robinson> hey. Having issues with a new laptop. Gateway M-6881 with an Intel 3954ABG wifi. THe wifi works for about 5 minutes, then the connection drops. It still shows connected in the wifi manager, but i cannot ping or gte out unless i reconnect.
[18:56] <YippMN> jussi01,  well it's s3 virge, ati i guess
[18:56] <myk_robinson> it has done this with Kubunt 8.04.1 with all updates. Also did the same with SUse 11
[18:56] <jussi01> YippMN: oh, bleh, not sure with those
[18:56] <myk_robinson> i am coming up empty handed with the forums
[18:57] <YippMN> jussi01,  but yesterday i had installed it off the live cd , and it was fine kde loaded but adept was bucking so someone said usethe alternate cd and now that nor the live cd can load kdm hmm, but knoppix and gentoo live cd's work just fine
[18:57] <jussi01> YippMN: have you checked the cds are ok? md5's and scratches?
[18:58] <YippMN> jussi01,  i have two copies and tried both , and the knoppix cd has more wear than the kubuntu ones :)
[18:58] <jussi01> YippMN: sorry, no idea then :(
[18:59] <YippMN> jussi01,  hmm heres one thing could it be that i'm installing it on a 4gb hdd and have a 15 gb hdd that the alternate takes all that space and thats whythe live and the install don't load kde? but then the live cd doesn't bother with that hmm
[19:00] <skinnymg1> YippMN: what kind of cable is running to your cd-rom drive
[19:00] <YippMN> jussi01,  i use gentoo , but this is an older machine that will run on dailup and only 500 mhz so compiling isn't gonna be fun so i thouhg thtis distro would be better for a newbie
[19:00] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  what do you mean
[19:01] <jussi01> YippMN: if its only a 500mhz, Id say go grab fluxbuntu or xubuntu
[19:01] <skinnymg1> is it ide sata
[19:01] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  oh yeah
[19:01] <skinnymg1> which one ide
[19:01] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  but why would one livecd work and another not
[19:02] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  ide
[19:02] <skinnymg1> will the live cd boot
[19:03] <skinnymg1> YippMN
[19:03] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  well, yesterday i installed off the live cd, and they both worked ok but adept was being strange , so , someone said it's better to install from the alternate cd , so i did , and today neither the install or the live cd can load kdm ,
[19:03] <YippMN>  skinnymg1  but the gentoo and knoppix live cd's boot just fine
[19:05] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  so, strange hu :)
[19:05] <skinnymg1> yeah if your running old cables it will give you a fit so make sure you have the newer style ide cables
[19:06] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  by newer your meaning?
[19:06] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  but that doesn't explain why one live cd works and another doesn't and why they did yesterday
[19:07] <skinnymg1> what is it 20pin and 40 pin, or 40 pin and 80 pin something like that i cant remember
[19:08] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  hmm well it's the same i have on this machine and anyother ive had
[19:10] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  the thing is the live cd should run today if it did yesterday and gentoo and knoppix live cd's run
[19:10] <skinnymg1> the only way to tell the differnce in the ribbons is the size of the actual wires in the cable you need the smaller ones
[19:10] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  or is there way to fix whats wrong with the install , it looks like it finds screens but not with the right config or something
[19:11] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  i'm sure it has newer ide cables
[19:11] <skinnymg1> ok
[19:11] <Guest32492> yo
[19:11] <skinnymg1> idk why it would load it once and now it wont
[19:12] <nujum> hi somebody here uses vuze?
[19:12] <YippMN> me either thats why i'm looking for idea's here :)
[19:12] <skinnymg1> unless your cd drive went bad between now and then
[19:13] <YippMN> nope the cd is fine i just installed the alternat kubuntu and also ive tried the gentoo and knoppix live cd's and they work fine
[19:13] <skinnymg1> how much ram does the comp have
[19:13] <YippMN> 256
[19:13] <skinnymg1> thats why
[19:14] <YippMN> why?
[19:14] <skinnymg1> you need at least 384 for the live cd
[19:14] <YippMN> naw i used to run gentoo and kde on it , and yesterday had the install off the live cd running ok in kde and the live cd ran ok
[19:15] <YippMN> and like i said ive hade the gentoolive cd and knoppix running on it today, they should take tha same amouint
[19:15] <skinnymg1> read the specs on the kubuntu page it is 384
[19:15] <YippMN> unless theres something wrong with this alternate cdinstall hmm
[19:16] <tdn> I have tried to follow this guide to install my wlan card: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)?highlight=(WifiDocs%2FDevice), but I get this error: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1181.html
[19:17] <jazzman> i have a ???
[19:18] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  so then why did the install load kde ok when i installed from the live cd yesterday and also the live cd ran just fine
[19:18] <nujum> why i can just use vuze by the Konsole?
[19:18] <jazzman> i downlaoded the flash player for linux and can't get it to install
[19:19] <ncfi1013_> what is an .amr file? what does it play in/on? how do i convert videos downloaded from youtube into an .amr file? what software would i use to convert .amr files?
[19:19] <skinnymg1> it was a fluk i guess just happened to slide through it
[19:20] <skinnymg1> YippMN: it was a fluk i guess just happened to slide through it
[19:20] <YippMN> nah , you can't tell me an install thats supposed to need 348 ram would just slip through hehe
[19:21] <skinnymg1> well your not really that far behind the min. so it is possible
[19:21] <YippMN> then why would gentoo and knoppix run just fine , you can't tell me that kubuntu needs more than they do
[19:22] <ulilicht> hi! amr files are audio-files from sony-ericsson mobile phones (OLD mobile phones) such as the t610i i think
[19:22] <skinnymg1> yes it actually does
[19:23] <Fargh> UB'cilkay, I got in with the live CD.  when I try delete files I get permission denied.
[19:23] <Fargh> is that due to the mount ?
[19:23] <ulilicht> i don't know how you can convert something to this format, ncfi1013
[19:23] <cilkay> Fargh: It could be mounted read-only or you might not be root.
[19:23] <Fargh> question was : how can i login to create some space, seems i cant log in due to lack of free space
[19:23] <Fargh> ok
[19:23] <ncfi1013_> what is an .amr file? what does it play in/on? how do i convert videos downloaded from youtube into an .amr file? what software would i use to convert .amr files?
[19:23] <Fargh> when I installed it, it did not prompt for root password
[19:24] <cilkay> Installed what?
[19:24] <Fargh> kubuntu
[19:24] <cilkay> Of course not.
[19:24] <Fargh> default password is ?
[19:24] <cilkay> The first user can become root via sudo.
[19:24] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  where on the kubutu site does it talk about requirements for ram?
[19:25] <rambo3> !specs
[19:25] <denis_> !de
[19:26] <cristina> i have some problems and i want to reinstall the metapakage kubuntu-desktop, how can i force a reinstallation of all kde components?
[19:26] <cilkay> Fargh: The account(s) you created when you installed Kubuntu are irrelevant when you're running for the Live CD. You just need to become root in the live CD to delete files on the disk.
[19:27] <cilkay> s/from the Live CD/for the Live CD
[19:27] <illmortal> Hey guys... how do I check to see how much ram I have? I wanna make sure kubuntu is reading them correctly.
[19:28] <cilkay> free -m
[19:28] <illmortal> <,< how about total, though?
[19:28] <cilkay> And it's not a problem if it's using all of it.
[19:28] <skinnymg1> YippMN:http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/kubuntu
[19:28] <skinnymg1> look at the bottom of the page
[19:28] <cilkay> Linux caches aggressively so high RAM usage doesn't mean the same thing as it does on Windows.
[19:29] <ncfi1013_> what i want to do is download some videos off youtube and convert them into .amr files so they can be played on my wife's phone. what software, if any, does this?
[19:29] <cilkay> illmortal: free -m, again
[19:29] <illmortal> I have 1gb of ram installed and it claims, total: 495
[19:29] <cilkay> top will also show you
[19:29] <cilkay> Does your BIOS see all of it?
[19:29] <illmortal> hold on gonna shut down and check.
[19:31] <YippMN> skinnymg1, Desktop install requires at least 256MB of RAM and 3GB of available hard drive space., and i have 256 and 4 gb hdd so it should at least work if a bit slow
[19:31] <YippMN> other than that i should probly put it on the 15 gb hdd instead
[19:31] <Fargh> i did sudo passwd, entered a new pass
[19:32] <Fargh> but still denies to del files
[19:32] <cilkay> YippMN: I find KDE intolerably slow with that little RAM.
[19:32] <cilkay> But it depends on what you're going to do, I suppose.
[19:32] <skinnymg1> that actuall os requirements it requires more to run the live cd
[19:32] <cilkay> It's actually not KDE that's the problem.
[19:32] <cilkay> Flash and Firefox seem to be the worst offenders.
[19:32] <YippMN> cilkay,  well yeah i know , but it should still run ok even if it loads pregrams a bit slow , but this is for a friend new to linux and learning
[19:33] <Fargh> more hints cilkay ?
[19:33] <cilkay> I usually have many tabs open and Firefox will easily consume 512M+ just by itself.
[19:33] <cilkay> Fargh: just what I wrote above. Mount r/w and become root. Then you can delete anything you want.
[19:34] <cilkay> Be sure you're deleting the right thing and watch wildcards. There is no undelete.
[19:34] <mlins> Has anyone had experience with installing kubuntu on a PS3?
[19:34] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  but see thats just it , the install should still load kdm , and its having problems with screens
[19:35] <Fargh> cilkay. ur right  I forgot to switch to su
[19:35] <cilkay> BTW, you don't "switch to su". su stands for "switch user".
[19:35] <cilkay> If you leave out the user, it's implicit you mean root.
[19:36] <cilkay> sudo -i will do the trick.
[19:36] <cilkay> or sudo su -
[19:37] <skinnymg1> try downloading the alternete again and reburning it maybe yours is defective
[19:39] <YippMN> skinnymg1,  i made two coppies and ive tried the install with both :)
[19:39] <illmortal> lol memory wasn't completely seated.
[19:40] <illmortal> thanks for the command on checking memory guys. was wondering why my pc was runnin sluggish.
[19:40] <cilkay> I'm surprised it would POST.
[19:41] <illmortal> I have two sticks... both 512mb
[19:41] <cilkay> Must have been *really* poorly seated. If you have it almost seated, generally, you'll get beep codes on POST.
[19:41] <illmortal> one of them weren't fully locked in
[19:41] <wolf> hi i first installed ubuntu and then windows, no grub has been overwritten and i want to put it back in mbr i would use grub-install, but how to boot my ubuntu without the opionen which partition, the ubuntu cd also boots only 1. partition
[19:41] <wolf> and tehre is windoze
[19:41] <engineer> !grub
[19:42] <jmichelsen_> I know this belongs in the #amarok channel but they are dormant, is it normal for amarok to rescan collection after every song?
[19:44] <scifi> Hi, is anyone available to hold my hand through repairing a kubuntu installation i have messed up???
[19:44] <wolf> engineer, i only have the alternate cd no live cd and no floppy(drive)
[19:44] <mbadjam> i need help on kde
[19:45] <engineer> mbadjam shoot
[19:45] <wolf> scifi: , save /home and perhaps /etc/ for some configs and reinstall it
[19:45] <engineer> scifi just tell the problem
[19:45] <mbadjam> i whant to add applications as firefox, ams, and others
[19:46] <engineer> sudo aptitude install firefox
[19:46] <engineer> ams?
[19:46] <engineer> !ams
[19:46] <Tm_T> !packages
[19:47] <mbadjam> there is not change makes.
[19:47] <YippMN> so how can i get into kubuntu to fix it not finding screens?
[19:47] <engineer> ?
[19:47] <mbadjam> i could not install the application
[19:47] <engineer> why not?
[19:47] <scifi> ok, basically I was trying to get kubuntu to save my wpa encrypted wifi passphrase, during my "messing" i uninstalled knetworkconf and now adept manager will not allow me to reinstall it, so now I dont even have ANY network devices listed in network settings, heeeelppp!
[19:47] <engineer> no internet»
[19:48] <jussi01> YippMN: perhaps try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:48] <mbadjam> I'm connected
[19:48] <YippMN> jussi01,  yup did that
[19:48] <engineer> mbadjam sudo aptitude install firefox
[19:48] <engineer> YippMN /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[19:48] <engineer> sudo before that
[19:48] <mbadjam> yes is that i type
[19:48] <wolf> engineer: isnt there a cd where i can choose wich partition i want to boot, all want to boot 1st hd 1st partition i need 1st hd 2nd partition
[19:49] <mbadjam> there's no package dwnloaded
[19:49] <engineer> mbadjam firefox is installed then
[19:49] <mbadjam> may be, cause new installation?
[19:49] <engineer> type firefox
[19:49] <mbadjam> not yet
[19:49] <arty_> hi all
[19:49] <engineer> wolf yes but that will overwrite your installation
[19:50] <scifi> can anyone advise me on this??
[19:50] <engineer> you need to fix the mbr through a live cd
[19:51] <wolf> engineer: so i have to install ubuntu again, its not configured atm so no problem, btw when windoze c:/ is 1st and primary and i format it will grub then be lost or doenst it affect the mbr?
[19:52] <engineer> no you don't
[19:52] <wolf> great opensource for president
[19:52]  * scifi begs the room for assistance
[19:52] <wolf> thx u guy
[19:52] <wolf> scifi: whats the matter
[19:52] <engineer> scifi hang on
[19:53] <engineer> wolf no
[19:53] <engineer> if you format the win partition the grub line will still be there
[19:53] <scifi> wolf, ok, basically I was trying to get kubuntu to save my wpa encrypted wifi passphrase, during my "messing" i uninstalled knetworkconf and now adept manager will not allow me to reinstall it, so now I dont even have ANY network devices listed in network settings, heeeelppp!
[19:53] <engineer> but if you reinstall windows
[19:53] <engineer> then you need to fix grub again
[19:54] <engineer> hmm
[19:54] <engineer> is the package still in cache?
[19:54] <Maxa> i installed windows after kubuntu...  boot from a live-cd and you can reinstall grub from there
[19:55] <wolf> scifi wired, what do you get if you du sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install knetworkconf?
[19:55] <scifi> wolf, i'll try it, 1 sec......
[19:56] <wolf> engineer: ok, then i would use a live cd to solve the problem? btw when i dont reinstall windows just playing back a partition image, it wont affect grub at least?
[19:56] <engineer> no unless you mess with the partition grub is in
[19:56] <wolf> scifi: i prefer installing by console since its more stable (what when adept frontend crashes during installation) and you get messages
[19:57] <engineer> wolf install synaptic
[19:57] <wolf> engineer: hm first is the windows partition...
[19:57] <wolf> engineer: you mean scifi right?
[19:57] <engineer> doesn't matter
[19:57] <engineer> no, i meant you
[19:58] <wolf> engineer: ok for what?
[19:58] <engineer> alternative for adept
[19:58] <wolf> engineer: i heard using adept and synaptic is worse, so i use console directly and all is fine
[19:59] <scifi> wolf, it says "Package networkconf is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean the package is missing , has been obsoleted, or only available form another source"
[19:59] <engineer> you can have both
[19:59] <wolf> like 2 av on windoze, killing the system :D
[19:59] <engineer> i have both
[19:59] <scifi> wolf, u just mentioned a problem which may have caused this, adept manager crashed a couple of time when i was uninstalling and installing packages
[20:00] <wolf> scifi: you use the default sources righjt, nothing changed or added...then you can open adept and there is something like package managment (i dont use english version of ubuntu) there you can check if universe and restricted is checked
[20:00] <scifi> wolf, ok will have a look....
[20:01] <uoaphys> Hi, I was just using K9Copy and it seems to work pretty good. My only problem with it it seems to be putting a half second gap in between chapters on the DVD. Has anyone experienced this, or know a way around this limitation?
[20:01] <wolf> scifi: that doesnt sound good, since adept is normally stable for me and when it crashes while istalling its fatal i think for the system at least
[20:01] <Guest32492> pwned
[20:01] <boes> quick question for you experts,   i'm running kubuntu with kde 3.5,  where is the trash stored before it's deleted,  I have 2 directorys it won't let me delete,  so i'm wanting to manually delete them.
[20:01] <scifi> wolf, had a feeling it might be :((
[20:01] <engineer> trash:/
[20:01] <Guest32492> lol
[20:01] <engineer> scifi install synaptic
[20:02] <engineer> do you have a pen drive?
[20:02] <engineer> you can download the packages from another computer
[20:02] <engineer> and install them there
[20:02] <wolf> scifi: if you are a linux newbie you may make some mistakes which could affect the system bad, i also did this, just save your important files normally /home and /etc and later on after a fresh installation yopy the desired files back, because normally adept is stable, but i prefer working with console for important things
[20:02] <boes> engineer,   ok, where is the trash foulder located at,  it's not in my home dir
[20:03] <scifi> wolf, im in the manage repositories, what am i looking for?
[20:04] <wolf> scifi if universe and restricted is checked, so perhaps your desidred package is in these repositories, but i think you have messed up the system if adept crashes during an important thing like installing its not good
[20:05] <wolf> scifi: how old is your installation and what did you configured for your prefernces
[20:06] <scifi> wolf, its only a week or so old, i had to use the wubi installer because the cd-drive doesnt like burnt cds.....
[20:06] <engineer> boes ~/.Trash
[20:06] <wolf> someone knows if ati radeon mobility 9100 is supported by fglrx ati or radeon?
[20:06] <engineer> !ati
[20:07] <wolf> scifi i dont know wubi what is it for? are you a experienced linux user?
[20:07] <engineer> !wobi
[20:07] <boes> engineer  /home/boes/.Trash: No such file or directory
[20:07] <engineer> !wubi
[20:07] <wolf> cause otherwise follow my suggestion and do a new install and be careful when working with sudo...
[20:07] <scifi> wolf/engineer, i am returning to kubuntu after a couple of years of not using linux, ive just realised i am confusing this adept manager with synaptic manager which i use to use, can u remind me how to install synaptic?
[20:07] <engineer> sudo aptitude install synaptic
[20:08] <engineer> if you have no internet on that computer
[20:08] <engineer> just download it from the net
[20:08] <scifi> engineer, because i have  afeeling synaptic is alot better than this manager
[20:08] <engineer> in some ways
[20:08] <wolf> engineer: but dont you think that his system is messed up cause adept crashed many times while iunstalling somehting?
[20:08] <engineer> dpkg -i synaptic_package.deb
[20:09] <engineer> brb, dinner
[20:09] <wolf> its not normal for me that it crashes and if i think it could have fatal followings
[20:10] <scifi> cud u point me in the direction for downloading packages pls
[20:11] <BluesKaj> !repositories scifi
[20:11] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[20:11] <scifi> wolf, i may as well try this, if it still doesnt work, i will do a reinstall
[20:11] <wolf> scifi do you think that solves your problem installing just another package manager frontend, since your system is messed up? it sounds for me that tehre is something strange
[20:14] <wolf> scifi: i bet that adept was stable at the first time u used it
[20:14] <boes> engineer,  I found it,  it's in ~/.local/share/Trash
[20:17] <scifi> there used to be a site that listed all the packages for download
[20:18] <alistair> help; in login manager there is no help available. pse what does persistent mean - happens every time? also Lock session??
[20:23] <alistair>  help; in login manager there is no help available. pse what does persistent mean - happens every time? also Lock session??
[20:33] <scifi> can kubuntu be installed from a usb stick??
[20:33] <engineer> scifi inside every mirror
[20:33] <engineer> might
[20:34] <scifi> engineer: i tried installing synaptic, but it had errors due to dependency problems, so i think my whole package archive/repositories must be corrupted
[20:35] <engineer> scifi sudo aptitude -f install
[20:35] <scifi> so im just trying to think of the easiest way to reinstall kubuntu
[20:35] <scifi> ok will try that first
[20:35] <engineer> the easiest way is to not reinstall
[20:36] <scifi> ok will try that first
[20:36] <scifi> oop
[20:37] <scifi> engineer: it had recommended i uninstalled synaptic package so i did that, ive just ran the  sudo aptitude -f install command and it says no packages will be installed, upgraded etc
[20:37] <DarkriftX> is there a way to amplify my sound? it was a lot louder on windows and kubuntu 7.10 then it is now (8.04)
[20:37] <engineer> the tree is fine then
[20:37] <scifi> engineer, do u want me to try and reinstall synaptic again?
[20:38] <engineer> try
[20:38] <engineer> sudo aptitude install synaptic
[20:39] <scifi> engineer, hmmm it says no candidate version found for synaptic, no packages will be installed etc....
[20:39] <engineer> it's installed then
[20:40] <alistair> Help; why do I have problems checking checkboxes in Kubuntu eg have to click em several times they are not acting sticky
[20:42] <scifi> engineer, how do i run it, cant find it listed anywhere
[20:42] <engineer> type synaptic
[20:43] <scifi> engineer, in add/remove programs its listed but not installed, and i can 'check' the tick box to install it
[20:44] <engineer> ok then
[20:44] <scifi> engineer, in add/remove programs its listed but not installed, and i can 'check' the tick box to install it
[20:44] <scifi> oops
[20:44] <scifi> engineer, console says synaptic is not currently installed, u can install it by using sudo apt-get install synaptic.......
[20:45] <scifi> engineer, try that and get the usual package missing, obsolete
[20:46] <BluesKaj> scifi, Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen click on Adept -> Manage Repositories. Click the kubuntu software tab. Check all the boxes "X". The same goes for the third party software tab. Close, then in the terminal do "sudo apt-get update" .
[20:46] <engineer> hmm
[20:47] <engineer> !universe
[20:47] <scifi> ok, 1 sec
[20:50] <scifi> BluesKaj: it just lists a load of errors because it cant resolve the download urls as I have no internet working
[20:51] <perre> hello
[20:51] <engineer> scifi
[20:52] <scifi> yes?
[20:52] <engineer> can you download the package in your current pc and move it to the other computer using a pen drive or something?
[20:52] <scifi> engineer, yes that what i did for synaptic
[20:53] <perre> can you help me?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> well, the kubuntu pc really should have an internet connection in order to update properly
[20:53] <engineer> scifi so synaptic is installed?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> !ask perre
[20:53] <perre> I have problems with kdevelop
[20:53] <BluesKaj> !ask
[20:54] <scifi> engineer, as i said ive tried installing it
[20:54] <engineer> you have to install it differently
[20:54] <engineer> do you have the package there?
[20:54] <scifi> engineer, but it says no candidate version found, no package will be upgraded, installed etc
[20:55] <engineer> sudo dpkg -i path_to_synaptic
[20:55] <scifi> engineer, well i changed to the directory first, then ran install command
[20:55] <scifi> in console
[20:56] <scifi> perhaps i'll try it again with path
[20:57] <engineer> path to the pen drive where the package is i mean
[20:58] <perre> !ask when I start compilation in kdevelop, it say to me that Makefile.cvs was not found, but this file present in project directory. I have installed kdevelop on two systems before and everything was ok. Anyone know what it may be?
[20:58] <scifi> engineer, i copied the packge file from the pen drive onto this folder home/myname/Documents, console is saying directory doesnt exist tho :P
[20:58] <perre> !help
[20:59] <engineer> cd into the folder where the package is
[20:59] <ja5on> Is it possible to get wireless working without first having a wired connection ? > have a broadcom wireless card with sabayon 3.5 it works with no configuration required other than my wep key
[21:00] <engineer> wep is unsafe
[21:00] <engineer> and yes it's possible
[21:00] <scifi> engineer, ok it depackged, but with errors, dependency errors, depends on libglade2-0, but not installed etc
[21:00] <ja5on> sorry wpa2 personal
[21:00] <engineer> scifi you have to download that package too and do the same thing
[21:00] <engineer> until you have a working connection
[21:01] <jinzougen> Doest KDE have software for inserting unicode characters by ID?
[21:01] <scifi> oh right, there are several i need :P
[21:01] <engineer> download them all and then sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:04] <_Angelus_> hey
[21:04] <_Angelus_> what program can i use on kubuntu to play mp3's
[21:04] <_Angelus_> well , other then amarok that is
[21:04] <scifi> engineer, ok bare with me...
[21:05] <engineer> amarok is great
[21:05] <engineer> i can't fine any better than that one
[21:05] <engineer> find*
[21:06] <engineer> apt-cache search mp3
[21:06] <perre> aptitude is better
[21:06] <engineer> lol?
[21:08] <perre> who know anything about kdevelop?
[21:08] <_Angelus_> engineer: i know that amarok is the best but im using amarok-nightly right now which is bugged and i can't play anything thats why i need something else
[21:08] <_Angelus_> ;p
[21:08] <alistair> \quit
[21:09] <mani213> when i log into linux i only see half of my screen
[21:09] <mani213> and its not my monitor
[21:09] <mani213> how do i fix this
[21:09] <scifi> engineer, do i just unpack those other package files or do i have to install them too???
[21:11] <mani213> can any one help me?
[21:11] <engineer> you don't unpack them
[21:12] <engineer> dpkg will do that
[21:12] <engineer> dpkg -i *.deb
[21:12] <mani213> how do i fix my screen
[21:12] <mani213> it shows half of the screen on my monitro
[21:12] <mani213> monitor
[21:12] <engineer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:12] <scifi> engineer, yeh i meant dpkg, but do i install it too? sudo aptitude install liglade2 etc??
[21:13] <engineer> no
[21:13] <scifi> ok
[21:13] <engineer> synaptic downloads and installs
[21:13] <engineer> aptitude downloads and installs
[21:13] <_2> !apt
[21:13] <engineer> dpkg just installs
[21:13] <mani213> what do i do?
[21:14] <engineer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:14] <mani213> to set my screen to defult
[21:14] <scifi> sigh* more dependency problems when dpkg other files :P
[21:15] <engineer> that's why you should have internet
[21:15] <engineer> aptitude handles those problems for you
[21:15] <engineer> dpkg doesn't
[21:15] <_2> !apt-zip
[21:15] <_2> !info apt-zip
[21:16] <engineer> can't you switch the internet to the other computer?
[21:16] <engineer> and install all the stuff you need?
[21:17] <_2> engineer can't do that.  that would take windows off the internet and M$ would sue you for it.
[21:18] <mani213> how do i fix the screen size
[21:18] <mani213> and set i to defult?
[21:18] <engineer> again?
[21:18] <engineer> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:18] <_2> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:19] <_2> but kde doesn't really honer xorg on rez
[21:19] <_2> there is supposed to be a "set to default" button in kde too
[21:20] <bdizzle> I have a "third button" on my mouse, that wheel button as it is called. I tried to use it on firefox to scroll down a page (clicking the button and moving the mouse down to scroll down) and firefox did nothing
[21:20] <bdizzle> is there something I need to do to get Kubuntu to recognize and respond to that action?
[21:21] <mani213> i styped
[21:21] <mani213> typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:21] <mani213> and it doesnt make a difference
[21:21] <_2> how do you know ?
[21:21] <coreymon77> bdizzle: does just scrolling the wheel normally not work?
[21:21] <_2> did you test it mani213 ?
[21:21] <mani213> ye
[21:21] <mani213> it doesnt fix the situation
[21:22] <_2> mani213 you restarted xorg ?
[21:22] <mani213> superman101
[21:22] <bdizzle> it does
[21:22] <mani213> restart
[21:22] <mani213> ok
[21:22] <mani213> let me retry it
[21:22] <starenka> hi, kubuntu suddenly rejects to connect back to wifi ater hibernation... any clues? ty
[21:22] <bdizzle> but I wasn't sure what else to use that third button for on the mouse
[21:23] <_2> mani213 and as i previously stated, kde has resolution setting all it's own.
[21:23] <mani213> mani213@mani213-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:23] <mani213> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:23] <mani213> mani213@mani213-desktop:~$
[21:23] <mani213> it gives me this
[21:23] <cilkay> starenka: I've seen that behaviour before. My solution was to not hibernate :) I suspect the driver is being unloaded.
[21:23] <cilkay> Do an lsmod.
[21:23] <mani213> i did the resolution settings
[21:23] <_2> mani213 so close adept/synaptic/aptitude
[21:23] <mani213> doesnt work
[21:24] <starenka> cilkay: it was working half a year and it stops now. i gotta make connect to oher wirelles and than switch back to default -> bullshit
[21:24] <coreymon77> starenka: wow there
[21:24] <coreymon77> starenka: watch the language
[21:24] <starenka> coreymon77: sorry
[21:24] <starenka> :))
[21:24] <sleeper> Hello
[21:25] <starenka> coreymon77: wanted to write "bother", but my fingers acidentally slipped
[21:25] <mani213> man it still doesnt work
[21:25] <mani213> should i restart it?
[21:26] <_2> starenka bovine fecal
[21:26] <starenka> cilkay: http://pastebin.com/d2949f9e
[21:27] <_2> mani213 restarting xorg is required for xorg.conf to have any affect.  restarting of the computer is not.
[21:27] <scifi> engineer, this is hurting my brain, the more packages i need, the more they need to depend on more packages, i'll have to have a break til tomorrow
[21:27] <scifi> engineer, thankyou for the help though
[21:28] <mani213> but i tryed typing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it doesnt work
[21:28] <Hamra> is normal for tar to lock a directory while extracting to it?
[21:28] <engineer> ok
[21:28] <mani213> and i closed what you told me to
[21:28] <engineer> just get an internet connection
[21:28] <_2> and if still fails mani213 ?
[21:28] <engineer> and you'll be fine
[21:28] <mani213> ye man
[21:28] <mani213> doesnt work
[21:28] <Knopit> When I go to   K Menu > Systems Settings > General > Personal > User account > Passwords and User Accounts > (click the button to change your image),/ I get a warning that I do not have permission to change the image
[21:29] <mani213> man every time i start linux it doesnt stay to same settings something allways happens
[21:30] <_2> mani213  sudo fuser -vki /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[21:30] <cilkay> starenka: They look like they're loaded - see lines 4-6. Maybe unload, reload. I don't know really. There is probably a script that runs on wake up. See what the script does.
[21:30] <mani213> do i kill the process ?
[21:30] <_2> what is it ?
[21:30] <mani213> 6191?
[21:31] <mani213> 6919
[21:31] <_2> ps aux | grep 6919
[21:31] <mani213> ye
[21:31] <mani213> do i type in yes?
[21:31] <_2> yes
[21:31] <_2> see what that process is
[21:32] <mani213> okay i did it
[21:32] <mani213> nothing happened
[21:32] <_2> then kill it
[21:32] <mani213> hold brb
[21:33]  * _2 backed up a read again the miscommunication ...
[21:34] <starenka> cilkay: huh, ok.. the most weird thing is that i worked until today... it reconected automatically
[21:34] <_2> heh   well what ever 6919 was "probably debconf"  it's dead before he entered the ps string to see what it was...   some time it pays not to assume.
[21:34] <cilkay> starenka: Did you update something?
[21:35] <tacosarecool> hello
[21:35] <starenka> well, no... erm yes added a module to kernel...(form lm-sensors package)
[21:35] <tacosarecool> How do I fix this weird glitch sometimes I start with flash and skype sound sometimes I don't
[21:36] <starenka> cilkay: "coretemp"
[21:36] <cilkay> Whatever that is.
[21:36] <starenka> cilkay: it shows cpu(s) temperature....
[21:36] <tacosarecool> When I hear a boot up sound when I boot up I have flash and skype sound but sometimes there I don't boot up with a boot up sound
[21:37] <wolf> re
[21:37] <cilkay> starenka: remove it and see if it makes a difference.
[21:37] <starenka> good point :)
[21:37] <starenka> brb
[21:38] <wolf> I#m on a machine with new hardy installation under the last one , dapper drake i got sound with a hda intel C-Media CMI9880, now there is no sound, what changed?
[21:38] <tacosarecool> Try restarting
[21:38] <tacosarecool> Sometimes I have a glitch with my flash and skype sound
[21:38] <wolf> under dapper it just did without doing anything, now i tried via a module but doenst help
[21:39] <wolf> tacosarecool: i did several times
[21:39] <_2> !hda
[21:39] <_2> !intelhda
[21:39] <tacosarecool> disable skype before you reboot?
[21:41] <wolf> tacosarecool: not installed
[21:42] <tacosarecool> Oh ok
[21:43] <_2> in linux hda is the nearest thing to a mute box i've ever listened to
[21:43] <wolf> Most cards seem to work as of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS using the stock kernel
[21:43] <tacosarecool> go to kmix
[21:43] <starenka> cilkay: bam! that was it... i  forget about the module. thanx, m8
[21:43] <wolf> what does this mean, that stock ekrnel
[21:43] <tacosarecool> then turn up analog front
[21:44] <cilkay> starenka: you're welcome. Not sure why you'd care about CPU temps unless you're overclocking, which isn't likely on a notebook anyway.
[21:44] <wolf> got it
[21:44] <wolf> i have to put on sourround
[21:44] <_2> heh  if his kmix alsamixer is like mine with hda  there is one output slider  main   and one input igain
[21:45] <_2> pitiful excues for controls.