[10:47] <mohamed> am having problems with steam .... counterstrike always freezes while loading at the beggining .... maybe its the nvidia driver thing because before running CS it gives me a warning that i dont have the latest driver
[10:47] <dORSY> anyone help me out with wine + counter-strike 1.6 when i connect to a server and MOTD freezes with this fixme:mshtml:HTMLBodyElement_put_scroll (0x8420d98)->(L"no")
[10:47] <Usiu> Where I can get Ubuntu installer with latest xorg intel driver. The one included in gutsy 7.10 is buggy for some intel cards and cause black screen. On Debian I was using old one precompiled for new API. Now its fixed in debian and current git.
[10:47] <Chris|> extremely far if you want
[10:47] <Tom0> ok
[10:48] <Usiu> dORSY, try #winehq
[10:48] <dORSY> oh thx usiu
[10:48] <mohamed> guys what does it mean restricted driver
[10:48] <Tom0> in ubuntu, are the themes universal? For example, if i put a high contrast black theme on, will all the applications have a similar look?
[10:49] <Chris|> holy cow, you can just about see a pixel if not, with that plugin
[10:49] <Chris|> Tom0 some buttons will change and others
[10:49] <Chris|> usually yes
[10:49] <Chris|> the backgrounds of the program usually do
[10:49] <Tom0> yea, i see
[10:49] <Chris|> unless a program is coded to be a certain color
[10:50] <Tom0> yea
[10:50] <MyOriginalAlias> Does anyone know hoto mount an ntfs partition on a sata drive?
[10:50] <Tom0> thats the same as windows
[10:50] <Tom0> iv been stuck with windows and i really want to break free
[10:51] <Chris|> Tom0 are you on windows atm?
[10:51] <ActySofts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645489
[10:51] <Tom0> yea
[10:51] <Chris|> Ubuntu 7.10 has been really easy for me, i've spent most of my time customizing
[10:52] <Tom0> it looks great from what iv seen
[10:52] <Chris|> if you go on the forum and ask a question its gets answered pretty fast
[10:52] <Tom0> what GPU do u have Chris?
[10:52] <Chris|>  GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 graphics card
[10:53] <Stecchino> Hi all, does anyone here know about the iwp3945 issues?
[10:53] <Tom0> is it better to have older or new cards?
[10:53] <Chris|> newer cards
[10:53] <Stecchino> would using iwl3945 solve anything?
[10:53] <Chris|> most nvidia cards support the 3D effects
[10:53] <Zenerek> Tom0: hey just wanted to say ubuntu has this assitive tech stuff which already includes zooming, have not triedmyself though
[10:53] <Tom0> I have a 8600GT, which is around a year old now i think, so that should have drivers
[10:54] <Chris|> i installed Ubuntu, and it noticed i had a nvidia card, and asked if i wanted to install a driver, and installing compiz was fairly easy
[10:54] <Tom0> Zenerk: could u have a good and tell me what u think? im looking for as much infomation as i can get :)
[10:54] <pete1> hello
[10:54] <Tom0> compiz look amazing
[10:55] <Zenerek> what type of info?
[10:55] <MyOriginalAlias> Can anyone please help me get my windows partition mounted, I am having some trouble because it is SATA
[10:55] <Chris|> mounting it in media MyOriginalAlias?
[10:55] <Tom0> Zenerek: besides the zoom fuction in compiz, is there any other type of magnification program on there.
[10:56] <Chris|> /media*
[10:56] <pete1> i am trying to install HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier on ubuntu 7.10 , fresh install. printer works without a problem , but scanner dont work at all. any tips how to fix it ?
[10:57] <ActySofts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645489
[10:57] <Zenerek> personally i cannot totally break free of windows, er yeah there is this assistive tech options availabe in one of the menus it incluse an option for magnifier
[10:57] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris|: No /mnt/win
[10:58] <Tom0> what does the magnifier look like Zenerek?
[10:58] <Chris|> you might have to run sudo gedit /etc/fstab MyOriginalAlias
[10:58] <Chris|> and add it in there
[10:58] <Tom0> is it a fullscreen magnifier? or does it just take up part of the screen?
[10:58] <Zenerek> don't know, never tried it....i would have to log off
[10:58] <Tom0> small part*
[10:58] <Tom0> ok
[10:59] <Chris|> i never tried it either but it is there
[10:59] <Tom0> no matter
[10:59] <Chris|> the compiz one just zooms in but i use it alot sometimes
[10:59] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris|: I was going to but if I can even mount it manually how will it mount on its own?
[10:59] <Chris|> if you add it in there MyOriginalAlias it will mount every boot up
[10:59] <pete1> i am trying to install HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier on ubuntu 7.10 , fresh install. printer works without a problem , but scanner dont work at all, cant get detected by Xsane image scanner. any tips how to fix it ?
[10:59] <CroX> MasterShrek: One more question.. :P Now that it's installed, do I have to run it and keep it open or can I run a daemon or is it all handled for me?
[11:00] <Tom0> when u zoom in, does the screen follow the cursor? or does the cursor go out of sight when moved?
[11:00] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| I know that, but if I can even mount it mat boot time?ng it anualy how will it do any better mounti
[11:00] <Chris|> move the cursor and the screen moves with it Tom0
[11:00] <Tom0> thanks
[11:01] <mosno> lord, give me the power to stick with a distro for once
[11:01] <Chris|> MyOriginalAlias i dont know that
[11:01] <mosno> :)
[11:01] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| Sorry my keyboard makes my cursor skip backwars
[11:01] <Chris|> its ok
[11:01] <mosno> *actual object of focus may vary
[11:02] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| I cant add it there untill I can mount it manually so I know whatons to use opti
[11:02] <Chris|> if you want access to that drive when you boot up, you add it in fstab then restart and it will be there, thats as much as i can help
[11:02] <MyOriginalAlias> Chris| Options to use
[11:03] <Chris|> google it up or register on ubuntuforums
[11:03] <Chris|> i dont know the options
[11:03] <MyOriginalAlias> I have lol
[11:03] <Chris|> lol
[11:04] <MyOriginalAlias> Anyone here know how to mount an NTFS partition on a SATA drive?
[11:05] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: mount /dev/sdXX /mnt/point
[11:05] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: do you wanna elaborate a bit?
[11:06] <jackcy> you should be able to mount it with write access using: sudo ntfsmount /dev/sdxx /mnt/point
[11:07] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: lol I have been lol, I am getting an error even eith the -t ntfs-3g option saying it was not cleanly shut down, giving me direction to go into windows and safely remove hardware, like its a usb drive or something
[11:07] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: you don't really need any special parameters unless you want to override defaults
[11:08] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: Wanna see a pastebin?
[11:09] <CroX> MasterShrek: It is now running but apparently MoBlock stops most of my RSS feeds (web comics, tech news mostly) and some websites. Any idea on how to fix this? Use a better list or manually insert valid IPs?
[11:09] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: not really, you just have to let windows fix and clean partition and you are okay to go
[11:09] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: http://pastebin.com/m5a05b527
[11:10] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: What do you mean fix and clean partition?
[11:10] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: it's probabli exatly what it says it is "Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use."
[11:10] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: boot to windows and shut down properly
[11:10] <simion314> is there a way to edit enviroment variables? at least i need to find the file that adds to my variable something that i must remove, hot can i search in all the files in my home for a string?
[11:11] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: lol that was the first thing I tried
[11:11] <TTilus> simion314: grep
[11:11] <TTilus> simion314: grep 'whatyouwannafind' -r ~/
[11:11] <TTilus> simion314: searches recursively thru _everything_ inside your home
[11:12] <TTilus> MyOriginalAlias: does -o force give you a mount?
[11:12] <dev_ahbad> Hi all ... I have install WinXP in my home again...but after formatting that C: I haven't get Ubuntu in the Boot Screen.... So how can I get back Boot Option for Ubuntu
[11:12] <Flannel> !grub | dev_ahbad
[11:12] <ubotu> dev_ahbad: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:12] <MyOriginalAlias> TTilus: no same as ntfs-3g
[11:12] <Flannel> dev_ahbad: first link there
[11:13] <LxRooT> !help
[11:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:14] <ICQnumber> hi ppl, i have on box far away from the internet connection, can i download some where NOSS-cd, with multimedia suff and graphic drivers and so on?
[11:14] <ICQnumber> s/on/one
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:15] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:16] <JonathanD> LxRooT: you need to ask one time, not 12.
[11:16] <narothepharoh> i need sound
[11:16] <JonathanD> and not in caps.
 : thanks for reply... And my another query about from WinXP how can I get the space back..which is occupied by Ubuntu?
[11:16] <LxRooT> I NEED A PHP MAILER SEND TO INBOX?
[11:17] <Tyczek> checkmail isn't working. I am adding good password but it's asking again
[11:18] <Flannel> dev_ahbad: just remove the ubuntu partition, and expand your NTFS partition back to take up the space
[11:18] <m3gach33zy> hey guys, I just found my audio buttons are working but they dont control the sound... in the top right if i hit mute it mutes but sound still occurs... any help?
[11:18] <skeeel> hello
 : But I don't know how to do that?
[11:18] <dev_ahbad> By CD?
[11:18] <ICQnumber> is there ubuintu on dvd?
[11:19] <cast> ICQnumber: yes.
[11:19] <simion314> TTilus:  after some warnings the computer seams to sleep but the control is not back in the terminal, it seams that grep is still working but the computer seem sleaping
[11:19] <skeeel> i installed nvidia driver for X (with envy) but even if i have the nvidia logo at X start , when i launch nvidia-settings it tells me that i don't use the nvidia driver and my rendering is NO
[11:19] <Myrtti> c24ck32: root?
[11:19] <ikonia> !env > skeeel
[11:19] <Tyczek> !envy
[11:19] <m3gach33zy> anyone help me with some audio and the audio buttons
[11:19] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[11:19] <ikonia> skeeel: envy is not supported and it's effects may damage your system
[11:19] <ICQnumber> where can i download it, cannot find on the site
[11:19] <skeeel> ok thanks
[11:20] <ICQnumber> cast
[11:20] <ikonia> ICQnumber: what are you looking for
[11:20] <ICQnumber> ikonia, NOSS cd's or dvd's
[11:20] <ikonia> NOSS ?
[11:21] <ICQnumber> ikonia, not open source software
[11:21] <robdig> m3gach33zy: try right clicking on the volume control applet, select properties, and see if it is set to control pcm or front...pcm is what you want.
[11:21] <ikonia> ICQnumber: this is ubuntu support only. Please discuss ubuntu support issues only.
[11:21] <eeos> I am on skype with a friend who did a terrible thing: changed the ntfs partition where he had all his data to ext2 using gparted.
[11:21] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i have one box without internet connetion far away form me
[11:21] <ikonia> ICQnumber: not open source = paid for software, so don't download
[11:21] <Chris|> ICQnumber he means probably what type? server or desktop dvd?
[11:21] <eeos> Is there a way to go back without losig all the data that where in the partitio?
[11:21] <eeos> He thinks he did not format it.
[11:21] <ikonia> ICQnumber: your lack of internet does not warrent looking for non-ubuntu related software
[11:22] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i talking about java, fplashplayer, and graphic drivers!
[11:22] <ikonia> ICQnumber: they are all available from either the ubuntu repo's or their vendors support sites.
[11:23] <skeeel> brb testing
[11:23] <Chris|> ICQnumber if you want to download ubuntu which is open source go to www.ubuntu.com and go to the get ubuntu page
[11:23] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i have no inernet connection cannot u read?
[11:23] <Chris|> well
[11:23] <ikonia> ICQnumber: then what do you want me to do about it (you're online here so you currently have internet connection)
[11:23] <Chris|> why do you want java if you know you dont have internet anyway?
[11:24] <m3gach33zy> robdig: i do have pcm selected the buttons are working just fine and i reprogrammed them as well and they display that they are working yet the sound isnt controlled
[11:24] <Chris|> he wants it on another computer ikonia
[11:24] <ikonia> Chris|: then download it from here ?
[11:24] <ikonia> as in his current connection
[11:24] <Chris|> thats what i say
[11:24] <eeos> I am on skype with a friend who did a terrible thing: changed the ntfs partition where he had all his data to ext2 using gparted (Ubuntu 7.10).
[11:25] <eeos> He thinks he did not format it.
[11:25] <Chris|> he said he wanted java and other things, i said then why do you want ubuntu even if you cant even download the other programs on ubuntu
[11:25] <eeos> Is there a way to go back without losig all the data that where in the partitio?
[11:25] <ikonia> eeos: %99 = is't gone
[11:25] <ikonia> eeos: %99 chance it's gone with no way back
[11:25] <ICQnumber> ikonia, i want additional cd's like all other distos have, like opensuse
[11:26] <ikonia> ICQnumber: ubuntu doesn't supply additional CD's - you'll need to make your own cd of external packages if you want them.
[11:26] <ICQnumber> or is there a big dvd with ubuntu to download
[11:26] <TTilus> simion314: it's not sleeping, it's searching
[11:26] <TTilus> simion314: was it env variable you were looking for?
[11:26] <robdig> m3gach33zy: hmm, what audio source are you using?
[11:26] <KenSentMe> ICQnumber, there is a dvd, but i don't think it includes binary drivers, flash and java
[11:26] <eeos> ikonia: I know. I had just installed ubuntu for him, and he was playing with gparted of ALL THINGS!
[11:26] <ikonia> eeos: well, time to move on
[11:26] <m3gach33zy> robdig: HDA Intel (alsa mixer)
[11:27] <TTilus> simion314: first check /etc/environment
[11:27] <eeos> ikonia: do you know if there is a software to rebuild the file system structure without erasing the data?
[11:27] <ikonia> eeos: no - as I said it's %99 gone without recovery
[11:27] <robdig> m3gach33zy: ah, i meant program like gstreamer or such
[11:27] <flibberdy> hi all, I have ubuntu 7.10 recognising my wireless nic, but i can't seem to enable it.
[11:27] <flibberdy> does anyone have any suggestions?
[11:27] <ikonia> flibberdy: does it appear in the network admin gui ?
[11:28] <eeos> flibberdy: what is the wireless card?
[11:28] <ikonia> flibberdy: do you have a switch to "enable" it on the laptop
[11:28] <m3gach33zy> robdig: playing music via exaile
[11:28] <simion314> TTilus: yes i search for a file that it puts some  variables in my system, i removed the entries in  in bashrc or something like this but it had no efect, i restarted computer
[11:28] <TTilus> simion314: then ~/.bashrc  and ~/.profile
[11:28] <flibberdy> lols ikonia, i do.. and it was off for some rason
[11:28] <ikonia> flibberdy: ok, well fixed.
[11:28] <revilodraw> im using compiz with the cude enabled, what do i do or type to make it spin?
[11:28] <revilodraw> ??
[11:28] <TTilus> simion314: you do not need restart, only relogin
[11:28] <simion314> TTilus: thx i ll search there
[11:29] <TTilus> simion314: what's the variable?
[11:29] <ikonia> revilodraw: it's a key combo + mouse listed in the documentation
[11:29] <Juhaz> !ops | atamer privspam
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[11:29] <ikonia> revilodraw: crtl+alt+left_mouse+move the mouse left/right
[11:29] <TTilus> simion314: you could pastebin you env (type env to console and press enter) and point out the not-wanted variables and i'll see if i know something about them
[11:30] <revilodraw> ikonia: where is the documentation?
[11:31] <TTilus> simion314: and of course you can always do export VAR=value on command line and have the current login env changed
[11:31] <eeos> is it normal not to be able to create more than 4 primary partitions on the new SATA 300 hard disks?
[11:32] <ikonia> revilodraw: compiz-fusion.org
[11:32] <ikonia> eeos: yes
[11:32] <ikonia> eeos: thats a dos disk label limit
[11:32] <simion314> TTilus: thx, i found them in .profile too, i will remove them but i must add other corects. thx again
[11:33] <eeos> ikonia: yes, but I have been able to create 5 or more on ULTRAATA 100
[11:33] <eeos> ikonia: is there a way roud it?
[11:33] <victor__> does any one know if xubuntu has any settings concerning bandwidth caps?
[11:33] <ikonia> eeos: a disk disk label will not allow more than 4 primary partitions. End of discussion.
[11:33] <ikonia> victor__: can you expand your question please.
[11:33] <tino_> eeos, make a logical partition
[11:33] <TimS> I have had more than 4 before
[11:33] <ikonia> TimS: no you've not.
[11:33] <tino_> that can contain as many partitions as you like
[11:34] <eeos> tino_: I am no expert. Do you have any documentation you can point me to please?
[11:34] <ikonia> tino_: no - it can contain 10 making a total of 15 partitions limited on the disk
[11:34] <cast> is a good idea to start using LVM if you ask me
[11:34] <victor__> for internet connections and such
[11:34] <ikonia> victor__: what sort of bandwidth capping ?
[11:34] <eeos> I am writig from a 6 partitions laptop at the moment. UATA 100 disk
[11:34] <ikonia> eeos: 6 pimary partitions ?
[11:35] <ikonia> eeos: I think not
[11:35] <Guest16155> hello , i have 10 .tar files , and i would like to extract all the files into 1 folder , without the paths ?
[11:35] <robdig> m3gach33zy: it looks like several posts in the forum say that using the command exaile --no-equalizer will resolve some sound problems, don't know if it will help yours or not...
[11:35] <ikonia> Guest16155: just untar them
[11:35] <ikonia> Guest16155: if they where tar'd up with absouloute paths, you can't undo that
[11:35] <revilodraw> ikonia: thanks
[11:35] <victor__> like in xp it has QoS packet sheduling...i was wondering if xubuntu has something similar
[11:35] <ikonia> ReX0r_: welcome
[11:35] <eeos> ikonia: I will check but that is how it looks like.
[11:36] <tino_> eeos, if you use gparted to create partitions, create an extended partition and create new partitions inside that extended partition.
[11:36] <ikonia> victor__: yes, iptables comes with QoS options.
[11:36] <void^> eeos: pastebin fdisk -l or it didn't happen. ;)
[11:36] <Guest16155> ikonia: i am new to ubuntu can u give me example of untar usage ?
[11:36] <ikonia> Guest16155: just click on the tar files.
[11:36] <ikonia> Guest16155: it will untar for you
[11:36] <david__>  5any one have web server here can help me
[11:36] <ikonia> david__: ask the question.
[11:37] <tzd> i! I was hoping anyone here could help me with my thunderbird installation. I am completely unable to install it via synaptic or konsole (im using kubuntu, gutsy gibbon OS) so i was informed to try the Ubuntuzilla script. I ran this script but it won't receive a public key? It also says something about it couldn't find a writeable keyring? the end message i get during the install is: Process returned code 2. Unable to retrieve Mozilla Software
[11:37] <tzd> Releases Public key from keymaster.veridis.com . Trying again... Failed to retrieve Mozilla Software Releases Public key from any of the listed keyservers. Please check your network connection, and try again later.
[11:37] <victor__> like in xp it has QoS packet sheduling...i was wondering if xubuntu has something similar?
[11:37] <ikonia> victor__: setting it up is not a 2 minute job though
[11:37] <jaggz-> !dualboot
[11:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:37] <jaggz-> !raid
[11:37] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[11:37] <maddler> anyone experiencing problems with Compiz-Fusion after latest kernel upgrade?
[11:37] <ikonia> victor__: Qos is available through iptables
[11:37] <jaggz-> sigh
[11:37] <inSanity_909> !kvm
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <victor__> well if i can set it up properly than it doesnt matter how long it takes
[11:37] <david__>  ikonia i go to var www i need to remove items from there of the apache but not leve me to delte tham
[11:37] <ikonia> maddler: no
[11:37] <inSanity_909> !virtualization
[11:37] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[11:37] <ikonia> david__: use sudo do remove the files, as they are owned by a user that is not "you"
[11:38] <inSanity_909> !KQemu
[11:38] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu
[11:38] <eeos> tino_ TimS: I am no expert on logical partitions. Do you have any documentation you can point me to please?
[11:38] <ikonia> victor__: totally you can set it up, iptables is the way to do it
[11:38] <victor__> do i run iptables through the terminal or is there a gui i can use?
[11:38] <jaggz-> I have 3 drives.. first 2 are raid and have XP on them, 3rd drive has partition 0 NTFS, and partition 1 (2nd partition) is Linux (ext3) but I am trying to get this to boot :(
[11:38] <david__>  ikonia what i need to right in terminal sudo please
[11:38] <ikonia> victor__: there are gui's but I personally don't rate them you need to look at setting up your own set of "iptables rules"
[11:38] <ikonia> david__: sudo -rm /var/www/files you want to remove
[11:38] <victor__> alright...thanks youve been a big help
[11:39] <jaggz-> before I mess my system up I retained copies of sda, sdb, and sdc (first 5mb of each drive)
[11:39] <ikonia> jaggz-: are you using fakeraid ?
[11:39] <jaggz-> sda and sdb are the hardware mirror, but linux sees them as separate drives
[11:39] <ICQnumber> is hplip on the ubuntu cd?
[11:39] <ikonia> ICQnumber: I think so
[11:39] <jaggz-> at least the ubuntu install CD sees them as separate drives
[11:39] <tino_> eeos, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[11:39] <jaggz-> ikonia, I haven't used anything yet -- after install I've not been able to boot linux yet
[11:39] <jaggz-> I did not choose the "install boot loader" option during install
[11:39] <ikonia> jaggz-: is the "raid" disk you mention for XP "fakeraid"
[11:40] <jaggz-> I don't think so.. it's real raid from the motherboard's hardware raid support
[11:40] <ikonia> jaggz-: if you've not installed the boot loader, how do you expect your system to boot
[11:40] <ikonia> jaggz-: ok - motherboard raid = fake raid
[11:40] <david__>  ikonia david@serverlinuxtwo:~$ sudo -rm /var/www/files apache2-default
[11:40] <david__> sudo: please use single character options
[11:40] <david__> sudo: illegal option `-rm'
[11:40] <david__> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[11:40] <david__> usage: sudo [-HPSb] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid]
[11:40] <david__>             { -e file [...] | -i | -s | <command> }
[11:40] <david__> david@serverlinuxtwo:~$
[11:40] <ikonia> david__: sudo rm -rf
[11:40] <jaggz-> I was scared to install the boot loader onto sda because then it won't be a true mirror of sda/sdb
[11:41] <Myrtti> !paste | david__
[11:41] <ubotu> david__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:41] <ikonia> jaggz-: getting boot loaders to work with fake raid is a very annoying and tricky tasks. "fakeraid" is really annoying as it is a weak technology
[11:41] <jaggz-> careful with rm -rf by the way
[11:41] <jaggz-> make sure you get the proper filenames/directories you want to rm
[11:41] <ikonia> jaggz-: why ? I've given him the exact command to type
[11:42] <david__> ok
[11:42] <david__> still the same the folder is thare
[11:42] <jaggz-> I think my advice is still good :) :)
[11:42] <david__> not delterd
[11:42] <jaggz-> sudo rm -rf /that/folder
[11:42] <kevind23> okay I need help with my mouse, for whatever reason the cursor displays about 300-400 pixels above where the system thinks it's pointing at, and it's very annoying. It's an X problem too because it happens in both gnome & kde, no matter what user
[11:42] <ikonia> david__: what command did you use, exactly
[11:42] <david__> ikonia where this problems to del a file
[11:43] <david__> sudo rm -rf
[11:43] <eeos> tino_: thaaaanks!!!!
[11:43] <jaggz-> kevin, it MIGHT be a display problem.. but I'm just throwing this out there
[11:43] <ikonia> david__: show me the exact FULL command you used
[11:43] <jaggz-> sometimes with the wrong display settings the screen "wraps"
[11:43] <david__> sudo rm -rf /var/www/files apache2-default
[11:43] <kevind23> jaggz-: okay, well how can I fix it? My mouse works fine in any other disto
[11:43] <jaggz-> probably because of the memory addressing being off
[11:43] <kevind23> distro*
[11:43] <Myrtti> I've got a question about rewriting a init-script in such a way it does what it needs to do without rc.status which is used in other distros. How?! I've googled around and I can't find a legible howto or a file that explains what needs to be done.
[11:43] <ikonia> david__: that is NOT what I said to do
[11:44] <jaggz-> but you'd likely see other symptoms of that :)
[11:44] <ikonia> david__: "sudo rm -rf /var/www/name_of_the_file_you_want_to_delete"
[11:44] <david__> can you please ikonia do the comand for me
[11:44] <TTilus> simion314: "them"?  what did you actually remove?
[11:44] <jaggz-> linux is not running under fakeraid by the way.. it's on its own lone drive
[11:44] <TTilus> simion314: just curious
[11:44] <ikonia> jaggz-: that doesn't matter
[11:44] <jaggz-> but I will need to be able to boot into XP, which resides on the raid
[11:44] <ikonia> Myrtti: say that again please.
[11:44] <pete1> i am trying to install HP M1005 MFP printer/scanner/copier on ubuntu 7.10 , fresh install. printer works without a problem , but scanner dont work at all, cant get detected by Xsane image scanner. any tips how to fix it ?
[11:44] <ikonia> jaggz-: intergrating with fake raid is a real pain, booting from fake raid is a massive pain
[11:44] <david__> ok workd thanks
[11:45] <jaggz-> actually, I don't mind if linux doesn't recognize the windows drives as raid.. as long as the boot loader can boot XP there AND linux off sdc
[11:45] <tzd> can anyone help me with my thunderbird installation? I tried getting some help from the official mozilla channel but after some ts they told me to come here since they thought my problem was pretty strange.
[11:45] <ikonia> jaggz-: you'll need to tell your motherboard to boot from the none-raid disks, and install  the boot loader on them
[11:45] <jaggz-> the problem is, I think, that anything "before" linux sees the first two drives as 1, so it sees hd0 and hd1 .. but possibly something like grub or lilo may see sda, sdb, and sdc
[11:45] <ikonia> tzd: what happens when you try to install.
[11:46] <Myrtti> ikonia: I've got a software that is started from /etc/init.d. When I do restart, it complains about something missin in /etc/rs.status, which isn't there. From Googling around I've found out that rc.status is used in other distros, not Ubuntu/Debian. I need to know how the function it serves is replaced in the init-script.
[11:46] <kevind23> Someone's got to be able to help me with this mouse..
[11:46] <david__> ikonia why know i cant do folder in www. var
[11:46] <Myrtti> ikonia: rc.status, even
[11:46] <ikonia> Myrtti: no, problem, I've got some test machines in the lab, I'll have a look
[11:46] <ikonia> david__: what ?
[11:46] <jaggz-> ikonia.. I did that .. for 2 years I've been dual-booting by switching the bios setting each time I wanted to pick one or the other.. because once I switched them I .. I don't know.. they actually don't change place -- linux still saw their physical locations
[11:46] <david__> in var www i need to do folder but i cant
[11:47] <david__> why this problems to do folder
[11:47] <jaggz-> well.. I'm going to read up on fakeraid right now.. first time I heard that word
[11:47] <ikonia> jaggz-: linux will see their phyical locations. due to fake raid, as I've said
[11:47] <david__> there is any way to lock as admin
[11:47] <ikonia> david__: because your normal user doesn't have permissions.
[11:47] <tzd> ikonia: when typing sudo apt-get install thunderbird it download and installs but when i try running it by typing thunderbird i get the message that the program "thunderbird" is not installed and that i can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[11:47] <ikonia> david__: the files are owned by the webserver - not your user
[11:48] <jaggz-> ikonia, yup.. I got it.
[11:48] <david__> ikonia can i be admin in web server
[11:48] <ikonia> tzd: please show me the output of "sudo apt-get install thunderbird" in a PASTEBIN
[11:48] <ikonia> david__: using sudo before the commands will give you administrator access to that directory
[11:49] <jaggz-> sudo -i
[11:49] <jaggz-> gives a root shell
[11:49] <tzd> ikonia: ok, i read something about that pastebin... where do i get it or where do i find a manual to how to do it? :)
[11:49] <ikonia> !pastebin | tzd
[11:49] <ubotu> tzd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <simion314> TTilus:curios about my variables? i unisntall mono from a bin instaler and it do not remove the variables
[11:49] <tzd> thx
[11:51] <skeeel> hello again
[11:51] <tzd> ikonia: is there a way to get the output in English? My OS is in Swedish and I don't think that will make it easier for you? Unless you're Swedish ofc ;)
[11:51] <ikonia> tzd: you can change ubuntu's language, but that is overkill
[11:51] <tzd> hehe ok, ill just translate freely
[11:51] <skeeel> i removed all envy stuff , enabled restriced modules with the menu but i still have no direct rendering , any clue ?
[11:51] <ikonia> tzd thank you.
[11:52] <tzd> no thank you :)
[11:52] <qwerty121> hi all! how can i install awn?
[11:52] <kevind23> sudo apt-get install awn, I believe
[11:52] <kevind23> maybe avant-window-navigator
[11:52] <ikonia> is awn actually in the repo's ?
[11:52] <kevind23> yeah
[11:52] <qwerty121> kevind: do i need beryl or compiz?
[11:53] <kevind23> Uh.. compiz I think
[11:53] <_-XPERT-_> Compiz has teken over beryl
[11:53] <kevind23> Not x86_64 I think though, I had to compile mine
[11:53] <_-XPERT-_> taken
[11:53] <kevind23> _-XPERT-_: yeah but only if you're using compiz-fusion.
[11:53] <chris_were> can i have some healp with linux mint. there's no-one of the mint channel
[11:54] <qwerty121> kevind: but my graphics driver doesn't allow me to install beryl or compiz... Anyway out?
[11:54] <_-XPERT-_> kevind23: Is it? i tought they took it all by now
[11:54] <kevind23> chris_were: Linux Mint is based on ubuntu so ask away
[11:54] <ikonia> chris_were: sorry, linux mint is nothing to do with ubuntu so not supportet here
[11:54] <g0th> hi
[11:54] <ikonia> !variant | chris_were
[11:54] <ubotu> chris_were: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[11:54] <g0th> when I press a key for a long time, only one character is printed and not several, how do I get back the old behaviour (ie. that the pressed key is repeated)?
[11:54] <kevind23> qwerty121: Not sure, you could try installing it and see what happens.. I'm not sure if it would workor not though.
[11:54] <dooglus> what does it mean when the screen goes black while booting and the capslock and numlock LEDs flash on any off?
[11:54] <chris_were> i can't update my linux mint. i don't know if it's because the linux website is down, but it couldn't update before that
[11:54] <bla45523> g0th: xset r on
[11:55] <ikonia> chris_were: that's nothing to do with ubuntu - so not supported here
[11:55] <chris_were> ok thanks anyways
[11:55] <kevind23> _-XPERT-_: Well Beryl was taken over by compiz, but it's divided into compiz and compiz-fusion, and of course emerald for the window decorations
[11:55] <qwerty121> Ok. thanks, kevind23
[11:55] <ikonia> chris_were: sorry
[11:56] <g0th> thanks bla
[11:56] <kevind23> I've got to leave now :\ If someone could please help me with this mouse problem.. just send me a memo I'll be back later
[11:56] <g0th> hmm how can I make sure it's always on (also in the next session)?
[11:56] <bla45523> g0th: i don't know what you have changed in your desktop environment, so i cannot tell
[11:57] <chris_were> um i also have a ubuntu question. when i install easyubuntu it doesn't run at all
[11:57] <ikonia> chris_were: easy ubuntu, is like mint, nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:57] <tzd> ikonia:  which syntax should i use in pastebin?
[11:57] <ikonia> tzd: none
[11:57] <skeeel> any clue how can i enable direct rendering for nvidia cards while enabling it with the restricted modules app don't work ?
[11:57] <bla45523> g0th: and i don't use gnome or kde
[11:57] <ikonia> skeeel: we can't support your system while you've used envy
[11:57] <ikonia> skeeel: envy may alter your system without your knowledge
[11:58] <tzd> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49008/
[11:58] <skeeel> ikonia, i removed it
[11:58] <ikonia> skeeel: but the system may have still been altered
[11:58] <skeeel> oh :(
[11:58] <skeeel> ikonia, so i'm good for a reinstall ?
[11:58] <ikonia> skeeel: sorry, but yes, it's the best way for us to support you
[11:58] <david__> ikonia there any one  to make directory
[11:58] <david__> folder
[11:59] <skeeel> ok i will try first and then i'll see for the reinstall , thanks anyway
[12:00] <Myrtti> ikonia: found out the init-script is designed for suse, now I have to make it work with ubuntu
[12:01] <ikonia> tzd: "sudo find / -name thunderbird -print"
[12:02] <ikonia> tzd: lets see where it actually is
[12:02] <TTilus> simion314: ah, okay
[12:02] <ikonia> Myrtti: what software is it ?
[12:03] <freak124> anyone has any experience with LAMPP? (XAMPP for linux)
[12:03] <ikonia> freak124: just ask the question
[12:03] <tt_> can someone links me the paste site for ubuntu ? (i got to paste somethings)
[12:03] <UserID-MA> General question about networking. I have two routers, both are wireless. Well I want to use router A to broadcast the internet connection and I want to use router B as a wireless switch in a way and recieve the internet broadcast from router A is this possible with static routing?
[12:03] <ikonia> !paste | tt
[12:03] <ubotu> tt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:03] <tt_> thx
[12:04] <ikonia> ubotu: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:04] <messageman3> hi guys, i'm new here, could someone give me a pm - i need help installing
[12:04] <Myrtti> ikonia: one of our own, so I'll have to do it myself
[12:04] <flohrian> messageman3: installing what?
[12:04] <ikonia> Myrtti: unlucky, shout if you want a hand / second set of eyes
[12:04] <messageman3> ubuntu itself
[12:04] <flohrian> Ubuntu?
[12:04] <messageman3> yeah
[12:04] <flohrian> ok :)
[12:04] <freak124> well, for some kind of reason, when I go to http://localhost, I automaticaly am redirected to http://localhost/xampp, how can I make sure it opens the page http://localhost/index.php?
[12:04] <flohrian> did you get a cd/dvd already?
[12:04] <UserID-MA> messageman3: are you trying to install a fresh copy or just duel boot?
[12:05] <tarzeau> i have one of these cheap lenovo laptops, and sound output wouldn't work
[12:05] <tarzeau> and the builtin webcam don't work either!
[12:05] <tich> are there any apps for managing large numbers of files?
[12:05] <tarzeau> is lenovo 3000 n200
[12:05] <ikonia> freak124: your default site has been altered by the xampp install
[12:05] <tarzeau> tich: how large? one million+ ?
[12:05] <freak124> ikonia: ok, how do I fix it?
[12:05] <flohrian> freak124: Apache?
[12:05] <freak124> yes
[12:06] <flohrian> freak124: there have to be a config file, isnt it?
[12:06] <tzd> ikonia: that previous command "sudo find / ..." it's suppose to take some time right since it searches through everything?
[12:06] <ikonia> freak124: change the settings on the default-site, xamp is either doing this by making the index.php file redirect for you, or it has put a redirect rule in for you
[12:06] <ikonia> tzd: yeah, it will be slow
[12:06] <ikonia> tzd: lets find where it is though
[12:06] <tzd> ikonia:  yeah now the magic begins
[12:06] <messageman3> @flohrian, i have sent you a pm
[12:06] <UserID-MA> is it possible for one router to broadcast the internet connection to a second routeR?
[12:06] <ikonia> tzd: we'll get there
[12:07] <freak124> flohrian: there is, but I can't find any mistakes in it
[12:07] <flohrian> messageman3: 1. no! 2. why dont ask in the channel?
[12:07] <ikonia> UserID-MA: that is nothing to do with ubuntu - please find a more appropriate place.
[12:07] <tich> tarzeau: no, maybe that was a little misleading... maybe a hundred or two hundred.  they are video files and i want to be able to 1. know what i have and 2. access them quickly-ish)
[12:07] <freak124> ikonia: thx I'll try
[12:07] <tzd> ikonia:  :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49010/
[12:07] <messageman3> ok, fair plays
[12:07] <ikonia> tzd: someone has deleted the thunderbird binary
[12:07] <messageman3> i have downloaded the livecds for 7.10 and 7.04 and the alternative cd for 7.04
[12:07] <ikonia> tzd: it's in your tash bin
[12:08] <UserID-MA> !list networking
[12:08] <ikonia> tzd: just put it back
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <flohrian> freak124: search for the default-site and change it to index.php / index.html
[12:08] <ShadowCall> hey, how do you stop your windows from opening at the top of the screen? so u cant click the windowbar at the top of them
[12:08] <revilodraw> i was playing with compiz and suddenly my delete button doesnt delete
[12:08] <DrAk0> why dpkg-reconfigure locales is not poping the menu just generating all the locales its want
[12:08] <messageman3> flohrian: i have downloaded the livecds for 7.10 and 7.04 and the alternative cd for 7.04
[12:08] <chronosx> is granular security for folder sharing in samba possible? i.e. folder has a settings for list of users who can only access it
[12:09] <ikonia> chronosx: unix file system permissions
[12:09] <messageman3> but whenever i try to install, i get some nvidia error
[12:09] <flohrian> messageman3: with the live cd?
[12:10] <messageman3> yes
[12:10] <flohrian> freak124: the option is "DirectoryListing".
[12:10] <messageman3> file not found etc.
[12:10] <flohrian> set it to index.php index.html
[12:10] <chronosx> ikonia: unix only allows: rwxrwxrwx owner group others
[12:10] <flohrian> messageman3: checked the cd?
[12:10] <messageman3> flohrian: yes, md5's are fine
[12:10] <flohrian> its an option in the main menu before run/install
[12:11] <flohrian> messageman3: than i dont know..
[12:11] <messageman3> flohrian: i can install it with virtual pc fine..
[12:11] <chronosx> only one owner at a time, no differents groups can access the same folder
[12:11] <chronosx> is there a way i can simulate multiple owners/groups in samba shares?
[12:11] <flohrian> try to create a new live cd, maybe.
[12:12] <messageman3> ok, i will have a go
[12:12] <tzd> ikonia:  that someone is definitely me... ops.. I'm learning though :) Which file or folder should i restore?
[12:12] <Aaron_Mason> hey all, i have an AMD Athlon 2500+ with 512mb RAM, I've got a Netgear WG111V2 USB 802.11g dongle but when I use it to get onto my wireless it goes deadly slow and sometimes packets get dropped
[12:12] <Copolycube> hello
[12:12] <kritzstapf> hi, when trying to check something out using svn it hangs on poll(): http://rafb.net/p/7O09NE94.html - is this a known problem?
[12:13] <Copolycube> It seems that last gnome package has been compiled without Xinerama support
[12:13] <Copolycube> is there some reason for that ??
[12:13] <sdndeath> looking for helop do
[12:13] <sdndeath> \
[12:13] <freak124> flohrian: in what file do I have to change that?
[12:14] <flohrian> freak124: dont know. the main config file, i think
[12:15] <sdndeath> does anyone have a ansi terminal
[12:16] <tzd> ikonia: where shall i put the thunderbird binary? (i have two binaries in two different folders) I'm afraid of restoring the wrong binary since I think 1 is for the nightly build of thunderbird (3.0a) which messed up everything in the first place
[12:18] <francis> Hello, Hi I have a rather wierd question . I have a cluster of servers some are mail and some are web servers .  I need to sent mail from the webservers. How do i get then to use my mail servers[ubuntu + postfix] ??
[12:18] <tony214> anyone know about video encoding here?
[12:18] <cast> tony214: sure.
[12:19] <jaggz-> !anyone
[12:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:19] <tony214> ok, i have an m2v file i encoded but if i transfer it to dvd, mpeg2, it will lose even more quality?
[12:19] <cast> m2v is what?
[12:19] <jaggz-> there's an answer to that question posed by !anyone
[12:20] <cast> 'M2V is an MPEG-2 Packetized Elementary Stream. It contains only video related data.' ahh, hmm
[12:20] <tony214> it's encoded with a windows app
[12:21] <tony214> i just don't want to have to re-encode to retain the same quality. my dvd creator is doing something to create the dvd, it's not re-encoding is it?
[12:21] <cast> well, since dvd uses mpeg2 too, i don't see how one would lose quality
[12:22] <cast> can you mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy -o test.avi *.m2v it?
[12:22] <glitch-> hi
[12:22] <jaggz-> Okay.. I installed grub on sdc and it's set for sda=hd0 sdb=hd1 sdc=hd2 .. linux is on the second partition of sdc (ie:/dev/sdc2) and windows is on the mirrored fakeraid sda1+sdb1
[12:22] <tony214> sorry, using windows app to do it on a vm
[12:23] <jaggz-> I then setup menu.lst to have a windows entry on (hd0,0) and linux on (hd2,1)
[12:23] <cast> tony214: so...how does your question relate to #ubuntu?
[12:24] <rob_w|laptop> whats the name for a command line tool to configure Xorg automaticly ?
[12:24] <tony214> cast: sorry, didn't know of any other channels i could turn to
[12:24] <jaggz-> root=(hd2,1)
[12:24] <jaggz-> install (hd2)
[12:24] <tony214> i'm using mozilla chat and it doesn't list channels
[12:25] <scragar> not even with /list?
[12:26] <jaggz-> I also copied 512 bytes from /dev/sdc to a spare windows partition (/dev/sdc1) into bootsect-sdc.lin for use with Windows booter .. I hope it works
[12:26] <jaggz-> talk to you guys later, if all goes well!
[12:26] <jaggz-> or not
[12:26] <francis> sudo rob_w|laptop:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <tony214> chat zilla really seems to suck
[12:27] <ThomasVL> why?   At least it does wordwrapping, which konversation doesn't.
[12:28] <tony214> the other chat client i was using had a nice neat list of channels on teh server
[12:28] <tt_> tony , you wont be able to do so in xchat or mirc , so whats your point? ;)
[12:28] <ThomasVL> movela: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmount-isomdfnrg-images-using-acetoneiso-gui-tool.html
[12:28] <m3gach33zy> can someone help me... one of my letter keys arent working... and i cant type it to tell you lol
[12:29] <etfb> tony214: I had a problem with it auto-joining a channel, so I just deleted the config file and got the defaults back.  It _could_ do with a little more work on its config options...
[12:29] <tony214> tt_:  xchat was what i used before. it had a search feature for when i needed to search for a help channel. such as now when i could use a video help channel
[12:29] <movela> ThomasVL: did it but acetone doesn't run or load
[12:30] <etfb> tony214: why not keep using xchat?  Is it available in the Ubunto repositories?
[12:30] <IanLiu> When I first installed Gutsy, I could access my computer in the network, but now, I can't... anyone experiencing this?
[12:30] <tony214> etfb: thought i'd try something else. i'm new to irc
[12:30] <Copolycube> tony214, what do you use for video chat un Ubuntu ?
[12:30] <ThomasVL> :( no idea than
[12:30] <tt_> why you dont use it now? if you like it
[12:31] <Pici> !channels | tony214
[12:31] <ubotu> tony214: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[12:31] <tony214> tt_: it screwed up on me
[12:31] <etfb> tony214: Always good to try new things.  As Oscar Wilde said, "Try anything at least once, except incest and folk dancing."
[12:31] <ThomasVL> :p lal
[12:31] <IanLiu> When I first installed Gutsy, I could access my Windows computer in the network, but now, I can't... It displays "Can't display all contents in the Folder"...
[12:32] <tt_> whats happend? :)
[12:32] <Xsylotte> hello, how to fix this problem ?
[12:32] <Xsylotte> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2255/ubuntuuo5.jpg
[12:32] <tt_> dont tell me you installed it from add/remove
[12:32] <tony214> etfb: lol, yeah, i'm not one to settle for good enough so i try new things
[12:33] <etfb> IanLiu: I'm getting similar problems -- samba says it can't find the local windows machine, possibly because of firewall settings.  I ought to see what's going on there, but I'm swamped with so many other little things.
[12:33] <tt_> Xsylotte which cam ,did you use for taking that picture? :p
[12:33] <IanLiu> etfb: Hmm, maybe... I will try some tests, thanks
[12:33] <Xsylotte> tt_, hahah :D canon a550
[12:34] <Xsylotte> i've updated gutsy and restarted computer.
[12:34] <tt_> lol , so i guess you complied kernel? ;_
[12:34] <Xsylotte> after that i got that error
[12:34] <Xsylotte> tt_, i runned update manager
[12:34] <tt_> i did it too , i got the new kernel image
[12:34] <tt_> but thats never happend too me with updating , only when compiling
[12:35] <Xsylotte> hmm, what to do now ?
[12:35] <Xsylotte> :D
[12:35] <excalibas> hello, can someone help me to configura wifi radar for wpa please?
[12:36] <etfb> Xsylotte: did you reboot with the noapic or apic=debug options, as it suggested?  Or just tried the recovery mode boot?
[12:36] <tt_> i would suggest booting from livecd and edite your grub.conf to fits your new kernel (or old one or whats ever)
[12:36] <wij32> hey, im going to install ubnutu over debian and windows, anyone done this over dell media direct aswell?
[12:36] <Xsylotte> etfb, atm i am running ubuntu with noapic
[12:36] <etfb> Xsylotte: and it booted ok?  (it's late where I am; forgive me if I ask braindead questions)
[12:36] <Xsylotte> etfb, yes,'
[12:38] <etfb> Xsylotte: recompiling kernels is well outside my area of expertise, but presumably there's some kind of option to do with the 8254 timer chip and APIC that you can set when you ./configure or make or whatever...
[12:38] <Xsylotte> is there any way to get last kernel update again ?
[12:38] <Xsylotte> or something
[12:38] <Xsylotte> because last update in update manager was samba and kernel..
[12:39] <etfb> Xsylotte: you didn't save a copy of the old kernel before you rebuilt?
[12:39] <tt_> Xsy , i was going to help you to give you my owner kernel *which i downloaded it from update too*
[12:39] <Xsylotte> etfb, I am linux newbie, I used Update manager.
[12:39] <tt_> but ther problem is with my isp
[12:39] <Xsylotte> so answer is no ?
[12:40] <etfb> Xsylotte: that's good news - it means the old kernel is still sitting there, I expect.  Sorry - didn't you say you recompiled your kernel yourself?  Did I misread?
[12:40] <ActySofts> hello again
[12:40] <tt_> etfb no he didnt ;)
[12:40] <tt_> i said he did
[12:40] <scragar> etfb: someone asked if he had, he said no, update manager.
[12:40] <Xsylotte> etfb, you misread.
[12:41] <ActySofts> I reinstalled ubuntu, kept my /home partition intact, but ALSA is still mad, so, how do I 'reset' my /home?
[12:41] <etfb> tt_: Ah - "See what you miss if you don't stay alert?" - Z Beebelbrox.
[12:41] <Xsylotte> etfb,  :D
[12:41] <tt_> etfb , i am not missing much , i allready suffering from mono , playing around then come and see whats going here ;)
[12:42] <etfb> Xsylotte: presumably I got the new kernel too, so I'll have a look and see if I can find where it puts the old one.
[12:42] <etfb> tt_: which mono - the glandular disease or the .NET clone?  And which would be more painful?
[12:43] <Xsylotte> thx etfb
[12:43] <ActySofts> how do I "reset" my /home partition?
[12:43] <tt_> compiling it from source code , without good internet , so you cant get the things it want , thats pain , and even when you get it , its wont accept it ;)
[12:43] <etfb> Xsylotte, tt_: any idea what the newest version number is?
[12:43] <Xsylotte> i would have to restart :D
[12:44] <tt_> for mono its 1.2.6
[12:44] <etfb> tt_: sorry, I meant kernel version
[12:44] <tt_> 2.6.22-14 if i am not wrong ;) *opening the folder and reading it*
[12:45] <muslimsoft> is there are method to read visio file in Linux?
[12:45] <etfb> That's the only one I seem to have too, tt_.  I wonder where it dumps the old one when it upgrades.
[12:45] <tt_> i will see if i could find it for him
[12:46]  * scragar confirms that new kernel is 2.6.22-14
[12:46] <etfb> I can't find any files with 2.6.22-13 or earlier (I'm guessing the previous one would be -12, since they go up by even numbers for releases and odd numbers for development versions)
[12:47] <etfb> So it looks like update trashes the old one, if I did indeed update when I thought I did.
[12:47] <etfb> I wonder if update manager has a log file... <rummage rummage>
[12:47] <Xsylotte> :D
[12:47] <scragar> etftb gimme instructions on how to find it on my comp, I'll check
[12:47] <Pici> etfb: The latest kernel update did not change the ABI (dont ask, I dont know what it means either), so it replaces the old kernel instead of adding the newest one.
[12:48] <Centipeed> I was wondering if anyone know how I could remove a running program from the taskbar, but still have it on the desktop, and also make sure that it can never be called into focus? Stays on bottom?
[12:48] <Pici> Centipeed: look into the program devilspie
[12:48] <Pici> !devilspie | Centipeed
[12:48] <ubotu> Centipeed: devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[12:48] <Koff> Hi, just wondering, is there a easy way to install new graphics driver?
[12:48] <Stevethepirate> or the program could have a daemonize flag
[12:48] <Pici> Centipeed: Warning, it wont work with compiz, join #compiz-fusion for help doing that if you use it.
[12:48] <Xsylotte> tt_, etfb, is there a way to add noapta in boot ?
[12:49] <Centipeed> ubotu: Thanks, man
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks, man - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Centipeed> Pici: No, I don't, so it's cool
[12:49] <Xsylotte> atm every time i boot my computer i need to edit grub loader and add noapta....
[12:49] <etfb> scragar: I used to use find (sudo find / -name [wildcard-mask]) but I recently discovered locate (locate [partial-name]) and it's gorgeous!
[12:49] <Centipeed> Oh. He's a bot :D
[12:49] <tt_> press esc when you boot
[12:49] <tt_> then selet kernel after then press e (to edite it )
[12:49] <etfb> Xsylotte: probably by editing your boot menu.  Hang on while I get the details
[12:49] <linux4me> hi guys, running ubunty 7.10 desktop, a few days ago it complained about some applet or something not working properly and asked if I wanted to remove it, I chose yes. Ever since the system has been ultra slow. How do I troublehshoot this?
[12:50] <Stevethepirate> linux4me: can you recall what the app was?
[12:51] <etfb> linux4me: another situation where having logs of the update manager would be good... I can't seem to find them...
[12:51] <Koff> Could someone help me, or point me in the direction of a tutorial or something, on how to install new graphic drivers?
[12:51] <etfb> \me searches for logs that may not exist...
[12:51] <scragar> all references to -12 removed, even though I'm still running it... fun
[12:52] <linux4me> steven_Office - unfortunately no. I tried updating the system with update manager but that didn't help!
[12:52] <tho1> Xsylotte add the option to the line in /boot/grub/menu.lst that begins with 'kermel /boot/vmlinuz...'
[12:52] <Copolycube> It seems that last gnome package has been compiled without Xinerama support, is there some reason for that ??
[12:52] <etfb> tho1: You beat me to it.  That's what I was going to say...
[12:53] <tho1> Xsylotte if you want that option to be added to every kernel update, then find the same line with a '#' at the beginning...further UP in the file
[12:53] <ActySofts> If I empty my /home, will it get reconstructed?
[12:53] <etfb> tho1: probably overkill, since it sounds like a one-off bug
[12:53] <Xsylotte> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=f85aab9f-f1c0-4041-90dc-aaa472bddc8d ro quiet splash
[12:54] <Pici> Copolycube: I dont know much about xinerama, but I'm quite sure that it doesnt have anything to do with Gnome.
[12:54] <tho1> Xsylotte that's the line...should start with the word 'kernel' and you can just add the option to the end of the line
[12:55] <linux4me> i'm looking to burn an iso image, what software do you guys recommend?
[12:55] <ActySofts> right-click & burn
[12:55] <B-rabbit> K3b
[12:55] <ActySofts> or use k3b or brasero
[12:55] <Pici> !burning | linux4me
[12:55] <ubotu> linux4me: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:55] <kiliko> Hi I'm trying to create a meta package, but when I'm trying to install it, illget this error: "Package autofs is not installed" - I'm using dpkg -i ./pkg.deb
[12:56] <rafaelsoaresbr> I got! I love this channel!
[12:56] <Pici> kiliko: install autofs then?
[12:56] <Scusio> when i start the ubuntu live cd 6.06 and 7.10 it stops booting at the 2nd line: "Mounting boot....(devices?)" anyone?
[12:57] <simimi> I was wondering, if I installed the x86 edition, yet have a 64 bit processor (dual core), the system is not making full use of the resources available, correct? I know I could change my kernel, but would changing my kernel to reflect this remove my ability to run 32 bit software?
[12:57] <simimi> Scusio, run the CD check from the main boot menu?
[12:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> !codec | rafaelsoaresbr
[12:57] <PriceChild> simimi, you would need to reinstall with a full ubuntu 64bit system
[12:58] <PriceChild> simimi, you are not losing much in your current state, and it probably isn't worth the bother
[12:58] <ActySofts> !restricted > rafaelsoaresbr
[12:58] <simimi> PriceChild, so there is no way to take advantage of anything without reinstalling... ohh ok then, no worries
[12:58] <kiliko> Pici, it sould just pick it and install it out of the box.
[12:58] <simimi> If I believe I found a critical bug in one of SCIM or gnome-language-support, to whom do I report it?
[12:58] <Pici> kiliko: dpkg doesn't automatically pull in package dependencies.
[12:58] <Pici> !bugs | simimi
[12:58] <ubotu> simimi: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:59] <Xsylotte> tt_, etfb: one more question :D, i don't want to mess up something. Can i change order of system in grub boot loader (to make windows default boot ?)
[12:59] <simimi> Xsylotte, yes just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:59] <tt_> yes you can
[12:59] <Xsylotte> change order ?
[12:59] <tt_> or set def
[13:00] <simimi> Xsylotte, I am not sure bit it seems like you change the "chainload+" setting, but that is just a hazy guess from memory
[13:00] <tho1> Xsylotte change the line near the beginning...should say 'default 0'...change it to whatever entry you want. If Windows is the third item in your boot menu, then change it to 2...notice it starts counting at 0
[13:00] <scragar> anyone know what's wrong with this nice command: "nice +13 ktorrent" ? for some reason ktorrent is starting with a nice of 10 instead of 13...
[13:00] <Xsylotte> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[13:00] <Xsylotte> # on /dev/sda1
[13:00] <Xsylotte> title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[13:00] <Xsylotte> root		(hd0,0)
[13:00] <Xsylotte> savedefault
[13:00] <Xsylotte> makeactive
[13:00] <Xsylotte> chainloader	+1
[13:01] <cleaton> !paste
[13:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:01] <tho1> Xsylotte don't change that....just change the default value
[13:01] <Xsylotte> i am blind :D
[13:01] <Xsylotte> sry
[13:02] <cleaton> Xsylotte, did you find it?
[13:02] <Xsylotte> yes
[13:02] <cleaton> ok =)
[13:02] <troythetechguy> I was told to run vmstat for diagnostics, but I don't see vmstat in the Ubuntu 7.10 repository.  Anyone know where I can find it?
[13:03] <void^> troythetechguy: should be installed by default, part of procps.
[13:03] <cleaton> Xsylotte, there is also a program called startup-manager
[13:03] <cleaton> a gui for changing startup settings
[13:03] <etfb> troythetechguy: sudo apt-find search vmstat
[13:04] <etfb> troythetechguy: apt-file, sorry
[13:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu startup manager
[13:04] <Xsylotte> ?:D
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startup manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <Xsylotte> !ubotu startup-manager
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startup-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <Xsylotte> blah :D
[13:04] <cleaton> Xsylotte, w8
[13:04] <troythetechguy> void^, Thanks.  All I had to do was enter the command.  I assume the "1" I was recommend to enter as an argument, is the # of seconds in which it updates?
[13:04] <tho1> Xsylotte it might be boot-up manager (BUM)
[13:04] <void^> troythetechguy: correct
[13:04] <cleaton> Xsylotte, http://web.telia.com/~u88005282/sum/screenshots.html
[13:05] <cleaton> !startupmanager
[13:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startupmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:05] <cleaton> the package name is startupmanager
[13:05] <cleaton> it should be in the gusty repo
[13:05] <Xsylotte> tho1, if i change default, then i should comment "savedefault" ?
[13:06] <moofoo> hello, i've configured a luks with cryptosetup, but /etc/init.d/cryptdisks does not ask for a password on startup (i tried the patch from 62751 though I'm running gutsy but this still don't help) any idea why this does not work?
[13:06] <tho1> Xsylotte not necessary. If you change the line to read 'default saved' then every time you boot it will boot the same thing as last time. But if you are using a specific default (0,1,2,etc) then savedefault is ignored
[13:07] <Xsylotte> tho1, i've put default as 3
[13:07] <Xsylotte> because i have 3 ubuntu start up lines, and then windows
[13:07] <Xsylotte> ubuntu, ubuntu safe mode, ubuntu memory test, windows ?
[13:07] <tho1> Xsylotte that means windows is the fourth entry on the boot menu, right?
[13:07] <Xsylotte> 0,1,2, 3 ?
[13:07] <tho1> Xsylotte right...that would be 3.
[13:07] <moofoo> one remark: the drive is attached via usb... and manually starting cryptdisks from console later on works fine
[13:07] <Xsylotte> brb. restart :D
[13:08] <Xsylotte> or bbl...g2g colledge
[13:08] <Koff> excuse me, but how do i change my account to 'super user'?
[13:08] <tho1> Xsylotte you will still get the menu with the delay...the only thing different is that windows will be highlighted instead of ubuntu
[13:08] <Xsylotte> tho1, i wanted that, beucase my mum is using this computer too
[13:08] <Xsylotte> :D
[13:08] <cleaton> =)
[13:09] <tho1> Xsylotte yeah...that should do it. If she does nothing she should end up in windows
[13:09] <Xsylotte> ;)
[13:09] <Xsylotte> i've added noapic into ubuntu..
[13:09] <Xsylotte> it should fix the problem for now
[13:09] <Xsylotte> bbl now
[13:09] <Xsylotte> thx
[13:09] <Stevethepirate> *noacpi?
[13:11] <simimi> Is there a way to get a formated no splash boot up like say, Knoppix/Slackware etc has? I know you can do nosplash on the boot line but the font doesn't fit screen and it is very ugly. Is there a way to get a coloured one, by chance? or a nicer looking one at that?
[13:11] <kazol> What is a good HTML designer (besides quanta and amaya)?
[13:12] <turbocueca> vim
[13:12] <bobbob1016> I have a new ext3 formatted drive, and it says 23.5 gig is used already, and there is no data on it.
[13:12] <tho1> kazol kompozer
[13:12] <cleaton> simimi,  http://web.telia.com/~u88005282/sum/screenshots.html
[13:12] <bobbob1016> Is this normal?
[13:12] <kazol> thx
[13:12] <Pici> !kompozer | kazol
[13:12] <ubotu> kazol: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[13:12] <bezibaerchen> kazol: vi(m) :-)
[13:12] <Pici> bobbob1016: Whats the total size of the drive/parition?
[13:12] <al-_-Gir> someone know cahnnel for AMX X counter strike mod ?
[13:13] <kazol> bezibaerchen: lol I still don't get the point of converting from GUI to command line.
[13:13] <turbocueca> kazol, there isn't anything better than coding the html page
[13:13] <simimi> cleaton, wow amazing! Thanks so much!
[13:13] <tho1> kazol it's something like squatting over the campfire....it feels SO good when you stop
[13:14] <cleaton> simimi, it's in the ubuntu repo, package name startupmanager
[13:14] <kazol> bezibaerchen: Do all Linux users want full performance so much that they convert every app to command-line (like IRC, torrents, etc.)?
[13:14] <turbocueca> no, but we get sure that things do work
[13:15] <wij32> and faster..
[13:15] <bobbob1016> Pici, The drive is a 500gig, and I know some is lost, the drive shows up as 458.4, but it is 23.5 gig used on top of that, down to 435 or something
[13:15] <devasura__> Is there any way to extract partially   zip file?
[13:15] <devasura__> Is there any way to extract a partial zip file?
[13:16] <kazol> devasura__: just drag the folders from the archiving app
[13:16] <Pici> bobbob1016: Hmm.. It would have to be awfully large to have that much reserved too.
[13:16] <Pici> bobbob1016: does `du -h` report anything weird for that drive?
[13:17] <lordmorgoth> hey guys
[13:18] <bobbob1016> Pici, I did sudo du -h, since it said permission to some things denied, and it just has lost and found, 34k total.
[13:18] <ronnie> bobbob1016: if your HD is bought with 500GB and it is show with 4XXGB i think that is normal@@
[13:18] <devasura__> kazol, its giving this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49019/
[13:18] <lordmorgoth> i just bough this new PC with intel quad core processor and intel mb DP35DP, can't install ubuntu, the kernel panics and crashes, any ideas ??
[13:18] <bobbob1016> Pici, It's ext3, could that be something?
[13:19] <rubydiamond> How to use grep to search in *.rb files recursively under current directroy
[13:19] <bobbob1016> ronnie, It is showing as 435, 458.4 with 23.5 used, we're not sure why 23.5 is used.
[13:19] <knoppix_> hello
[13:20] <kazol> devasura__: Does it have ".part001" or something similar? (popular with warez downloads)
[13:20] <tzd> i need help with restoring a deleted thunderbird folder to it's original place please?
[13:20] <devasura__> kazol, no its a single file
[13:20] <kazol> Not sure then, sorry.
[13:21] <devasura__> kazoll, thanks anyway
[13:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> my shipit has never come
[13:22] <zakia> hello
[13:22] <al-_-Gir> LOL
[13:22] <zakia> can i revert a ubuntu to main stream debian ?
[13:22] <kazol> rafaelsoaresbr: Just download the ISO then.
[13:22] <tho1> devasura__ that looks like an incomplete download. I know of no way to extract anything from an incomplete archive
[13:23] <kazol> I was thinking of that...
[13:23] <devasura__> kazol, partial rar files can be exracted by using "unrar -kb e  file.rar". kb imples keep broken. Couldnt find the same option for unzip!!
[13:23] <rafaelsoaresbr> karol, I think I have to do that
[13:23] <zakia> i have a machine zehere ubuntu 5,10 can install i want to in place convert it to debian etch is it possible
[13:23] <tho1> devasura__ as the error indicates the file directory is stored at the end of a zip file, so there is no way for the unzip to know about the files if the end is missing
[13:25] <devasura__> tho1: shoulnt it be stored in the beginning??
[13:25] <kaleh> is it possible to run windows apps the way wine does using Virtualization? that is, i get to run only the app. and don't see the windows desktop
[13:25] <tho1> devasura__ only if it wanted to be rar
[13:25] <tzd> where shall i restore my deleted thunderbird bin file to ( it is now located in /root/.local/share/Trash/files/thunderbird_1/thunderbird) ?
[13:25] <tho1> devasura__ not my fault...I didn't design it...I just use it <smile>
[13:25] <devasura__> tho1: thanks
[13:26] <kaleh> tzd: just copy/paste it to which ever folder u want to
[13:28] <tzd> kaleh: i have it installed somewhere i think? when i try running thunderbird via cmd "thunderbird" it asks me to install it again. I've done this as well and still get the same error. Iconia told me to restore the thunderbird bin file from thrash and then it should work again
[13:29] <Slart> rubydiamond: I think it's grep -R pattern *.rb ..try that.. if it doesn't work I'll try to come up with something else
[13:29] <simimi> cleaton, I do not have startupmanager in my repo,apparently?
[13:29] <tzd> kaleh: i'm also not sure which bin file i need to restore... i have 5 different thunderbird folders in my thrash and i think at least 1 of them are reffering to thunderbird 3.0a (the nightly build) which i really don't want again
[13:29] <boris> when i do 'sudo shutdown now' i get something like 'local process terminated'
[13:29] <cleaton> simimi, you don't? hm maybe it's not suported in there then :(
[13:30] <simimi> I do not have backports, is it in there?
[13:30] <kaleh> tzd: maybe it's installed and just asking the initial setup like name, email-id, etc.?
[13:31] <kaleh> tzd: what does it say when u type thuderbird?
[13:31] <kaleh> tzd: try running mozilla-thunderbird
[13:32] <kaleh> tzd: ie, type "mozilla-thunderbird" in the terminal
[13:32] <cleaton> simimi, it should be in the repo. http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/utils/startupmanager
[13:32] <tzd> kaleh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49008/
[13:32] <tzd> i translated freely
[13:33] <cleaton> simimi, it's in universe
[13:33] <simimi> cleaton, odd...
[13:34] <rubydiamond> Slart, that does not work
[13:34] <simimi> cleaton, got it, many thanks
[13:34] <rubydiamond> there must be some directory.. instead of *.rb
[13:34] <Slart> rubydiamond: oh? what did you get? an error message?
[13:34] <cleaton> simimi, did you download it from the ubuntu package page?
[13:35] <rubydiamond> Slart, grep: *.rb: No such file or directory
[13:35] <simimi> cleaton, nope it was indeed in my repo eventhough an apt-cache search does not return it
[13:35] <cleaton> ok :P maybe you need an update :P
[13:35] <tzd> kaleh: when ikonia saw that he/she told me to run another cmd. The output of that was: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49010/
[13:35] <rubydiamond> Slart, I did not put . after *.rb
[13:35] <rubydiamond> seems that it worked
[13:36] <Slart> rubydiamond: oh.. the single dot made it work?.. that's more odd than it not working..
[13:37] <rubydiamond>  grep -R url_for *.rake clear. searches in .rb files too
[13:37] <rubydiamond> that is weird
[13:37] <ataLay> Hello
[13:37] <pidix> how can i show the daemons that are running?
[13:38] <Slart> rubydiamond: what is you current directory? if you cd to the base dir this should work "grep -R yourpattern ./" should work
[13:38] <lesshaste__> how do I get the latest azureus and sun java?
[13:39] <ataLay> Hello how are you Slart
[13:39] <ataLay> Hello lesshaste
[13:39] <Slart> hello ataLay
[13:39] <lesshaste__> the version that comes with gibbon seems to be old and rely on gcj
[13:39] <ataLay> How are you my friend
[13:39] <tho1> pidix 'ps ax' will show all processes running including the daemons
[13:39] <rubydiamond> Slart, I only want to search in ruby files.. or some files with specified extension like .rake
[13:40] <Slart> eh.. I'm fine.. you? do I know you?
[13:40] <pidix> and only daemons?
[13:40] <kaleh> tzd: this perplexes me
[13:40] <ataLay> Slart no it s first time i been to here
[13:40] <nagyv> hello! could someone give me an mcoder command to convert an avi file to digital video (dv) format? I would like to edit it in Kino, but can't import the avi.
[13:41] <tzd> kaleh: ok, but is there like a default program directory? Such as in windows you have the typical c:\program files
[13:41] <kaleh> tzd: the 1st time u did sudo apt-get, it d/loaded the packages properly and installed them?
[13:41] <lesshaste__> no one else have problems with azureus on gibbon?
[13:41] <tzd> kaleh:  yes
[13:41] <ataLay> Slart Are you there mate
[13:41] <Slart> rubydiamond: I don't know if grep can search in many different files.. specified by some kind of filename pattern..
[13:41] <kaleh> tzd: all installed binaries are always in /usr/local
[13:42] <Slart> ataLay: yes, did you have a ubuntu question?
[13:42] <ataLay> what is ubuntu Slart?
[13:42] <ataLay> Sorry it s my frist time on this server
[13:42] <tzd> kaleh: ah perhaps i should just leave it there... will have a look now
[13:42] <kaleh> tzd:  oops! sry. /usr/lib
[13:42] <Pici> !ubuntu | ataLay
[13:42] <ubotu> ataLay: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <kaleh> tzd:  oops! sry. /usr/lib
[13:42] <Slart> ataLay: I'll take that as a "no" then
[13:42] <tzd> kaleh:  ok :D
[13:42] <snkmad> need help, after last night kernel update, grub cant find my linux partition
[13:42] <lesshaste__> anyone? :)
[13:43] <kaleh> tzd:  u can see that:    /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
[13:43] <ataLay> Sorry where am i
[13:43] <ataLay> Where is here?
[13:43] <ataLay> Whats mean ubuntu?
[13:43] <ataLay> Can you help me pls
[13:43] <nagyv> !ubuntu | ataLay
[13:43] <ubotu> ataLay: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:43] <tzd> kaleh:  hmmm.... actually had a bin file there
[13:43] <ataLay> Can i chat here?
[13:44] <kaleh> tzd:  try double-clicking on  /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird
[13:44] <tho1> ataLay no
[13:44] <ataLay> Where i can chat?
[13:44] <snkmad> need help, after last night kernel update, grub cant find my linux partition
[13:44] <tho1> a troll bot?
[13:44] <tzd> kaleh: when i try double clicking the thuderbird-bin file in the /usr/lib/thunderbird/ folder nothing happens
[13:44] <ataLay> tho1
[13:45] <ataLay> Where i can chat?
[13:45] <dadehoog> ataLay: /part /quit /exit
[13:45] <lesshaste__> how can I get azureus <IP_ADDRESS> for gutsy gibbon??
[13:45] <Pici> ataLay: #ubuntu-offtopic, ##defocus
[13:45] <gonza212> hello, sorry but i was searching for a tool to decode a .hqx (hexbin 4.0) file... any help?
[13:45] <Pici> dadehoog: Thats not helpful
[13:46] <dadehoog> Pici: it appears to be a bot - rather than a person ...
[13:46] <void^> !info azureus gutsy-backports
[13:46] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 7061 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[13:46] <tzd> kaleh: w8... clicked toe shell file named just "thunderbird" as you said
[13:46] <tzd> kaleh: the*
[13:46] <ataLay> ok i part
[13:46] <ataLay> bye
[13:46] <ataLay> good peoples
[13:47] <Pici> dadehoog: No, probably someone for which english is not their first langage.
[13:47] <tzd> kaleh: it loads up and it's version <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:47] <dadehoog> Pici: it's not mine, but I don't carry on like that ...
[13:47] <snkmad> need help, after yesterday kernel update, my ubuntu 7.10 doesnt boot, grub cant find the partition
[13:48] <perfector> its a beautiful day..
[13:48]  * Hiseran watches
[13:48] <Pici> dadehoog: you did mean atalay, right?
[13:48] <perfector> snkmad: is this ur first kernel update?
[13:48] <dadehoog> Pici: indeed
[13:48] <tzd> kaleh: it wont start up via kmenu though
[13:48] <vol_> Hello, I've just installed java 6 via apt-get, however, my links still point at 5. I know that there's a simple command to change these over, does anyone know what it is?
[13:48] <Slart> rubydiamond: "for a in $(ls -R | egrep .*\.\(rb\|rake\)); do grep pattern $a; done"  here's another one.. see if it works
[13:49] <snkmad> perfector idk, i just used the update manager as always
[13:49] <RatThing> snkmad, is the hard drive problematic, have you had trouble with it before the upgrade?
[13:49] <snkmad> then it asked me to reboot
[13:49] <Myrtti> ikonia: still there?
[13:49] <snkmad> the HHD is fine, im using winxp on the other partition on the same drive
[13:49] <rubydiamond> Slart, found one   =>  find . -name "*.rb" -exec grep 'search_string' {} \; -print
[13:49] <Slart> rubydiamond: ah.. I always forget about find.. nice one
[13:50] <Slart> rubydiamond: but that one only searches rb files..
[13:50] <tich> how would i go about translating a program
[13:50] <Slart> tich: translating from what to what?
[13:50] <tich> slart: french to english
[13:50] <RatThing> snkmad I take it then you are unable to go into safe mode when grub boots up, recovery mode that is.
[13:50] <rubydiamond> Slart, yes
[13:51] <Slart> tich: oh.. depends on the program.. some applications have text files with all text strings in them.. some have stuff hardcoded
[13:51] <snkmad> RatThing yeah cant go into safe mode either
[13:51] <snkmad> ill try to boot into my livecd later
[13:51] <snkmad> just wanna know what should i do, and if my partition is lost?
[13:52] <RatThing> snkmad do you actually see a Grub message?
[13:52] <snkmad> yeah
[13:52] <snkmad> grub appears, with all normal boot options
[13:52] <tich> slart: how do i tell the difference?
[13:52] <snkmad> and if i choose any of the ubuntu ones
[13:52] <vol_> Anyone?
[13:52] <RatThing> snkmad, did you install xp after you upgraded?
[13:52] <snkmad> itll tell something like partition not found, cant remember the exact message
[13:52] <Hiseran> tell us the program tich
[13:52] <Centipeed> Can anyone tell me how to stop Pidgin from opening at startup?
[13:53] <Hiseran> you should probably ask the developers if you arent sure tich
[13:53] <tzd> kaleh: got the K-menu to work again... just had to direct the link to the file you told me to double click. I then had to change the working folder to my profile folder which where in a different place. Thank you so much for your help!
[13:53] <tho1> Centipeed it is an option in pidgin
[13:53] <Centipeed> I tried to find it
[13:53] <tich> Hiseran: VideoManager
[13:53] <snkmad> RatThing no, i had winxp, then installed 7.10 just when it was out, then never booted xp again, was full time linux
[13:53] <Centipeed> But I'm probably being stupid
[13:53] <rcomalta___> any one have ubutu as server here
[13:53] <snkmad> its really weird using winxp again...
[13:54] <Hiseran> tich I would look at the source code or ask the developers and save time
[13:54] <jdecoste> hi there
[13:54] <tho1> Centipeed i think it is a plugin...trying to locate it now
[13:54] <RatThing> snkmad there are some windows tools that will let you see the linux partition, but booting from something like xnopix might be useful. I can't see how an upgrade would kill a partition so I am sure it is still there.
[13:55] <snkmad> RatThing well i have my ubuntu livecd here
[13:55] <snkmad> i hope nothing is destroyed
[13:55] <RatThing> snkmad It would be useful to examine your grub.conf
[13:55] <tich> hiseran: it has an xml2translate.py file which i thought i could just translate but when changed it i received errors.
[13:56] <snkmad> its so strange, i just updated as usual, turned off the pc, and today this...
[13:56] <tich> i guess i will ask the developers... but i was hoping to do it tonight.
[13:56] <tho1> Centipeed can't seem to locate it. I know it can be done...it doesn't start automatically for me...but I don't recall how I turned it off.
[13:56] <Hiseran> did you check the xml files?
[13:56] <Gotenks> anyone here know much about IEs4linux?
[13:57] <tho1> rcomalta___  I am using it as a webserver among other things
[13:57] <RatThing> snkmad I've seen lost partitions with an unexpected power outage but not in the case that you describe.
[13:57] <kaleh> tzd: it's just that u got a bit lucky. ;)
[13:57] <tzd> ikonia: Thanks for your great help. Apparantly my thunderbird syndrome is still weird (wont start with thunderbird or mozilla-thunderbird command i konsole) although i've recieved help to start it via usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird . After that I was able to link back to it via K-menu and voila it's back on track (apart from the konsole start)
[13:57] <tho1> snkmad I have a text file on restoring grub from the live cd....if you want I can pastebin it for you
[13:57] <snkmad> and the problem is, i have to do some urgent work, so no time to fix it now
[13:58] <tzd> kaleh: haha yep :) I thought of reinstalling the whole OS this morning but someone tipped me of this channel :)
[13:58] <vol_> Hello, I've just installed java 6 via apt-get, however, my links still point at 5. I know that there's a simple command to change these over, does anyone know what it is?
[13:58] <snkmad> tho1 id really appreciate that
[13:58] <syc0> hey tzd me too
[13:58] <syc0> tzd what happened to ur reinstall thing
[13:58] <vol_> Menu shortcuts work as well for me
[13:58] <jdecoste> anyone ever setup a multiseat pc ?
[13:58] <kaleh> tzd: that wudn't hv solved the problem in anyway
[13:58] <kaleh> !!
[13:58] <tzd> syc0: didn't have to reinstall.. got it working now ::D
[13:58] <syc0> hey kaleh good morning
[13:58] <void^> vol_: updates-alternatives --config java
[13:58] <vol_> thank you
[13:58] <syc0> what i did what change my sources.list from dappy to hardy
[13:59] <rcomalta___> if any one have a web server let me know
[13:59] <tzd> kaleh: yeah it would since I didn't have this problem until i decided to go for the nightly build of thunderbird
[13:59] <kaleh> syc0: good evening ;)
[13:59] <syc0> not hardy, gutsy
[13:59] <syc0> from dapper
[13:59] <syc0> (im new to ubuntu)
[13:59] <tho1> snkmad http://pastebin.com/d7d16bc58
[13:59] <syc0> and then i try to upgrade every package, and i basically fail all the time because of VIM
[13:59] <snkmad> tho1 thx man
[13:59] <tho1> rcomalta___ yes...I use ubuntu as a webserver
[14:00] <syc0> so i did a aptitude -full-upgrade
[14:00] <syc0> and i fail with vim
[14:00] <wols> syc0: you cannot update to gutsy from dapper. only from dappre to edgy to feisty to gutsy
[14:00] <tho1> snkmad that was originally written to restore a botched boot sector...hence the references to fixing windows xp and then fixing grub
[14:00] <syc0> ooh nobody told me that
[14:00] <syc0> ok so i should change my sources.list
[14:00] <syc0> to ah, edgy sources
[14:00] <wols> syc0: you already have a fairly broken system now package management wise
[14:01] <rcomalta___> tho 1 is not let me delate files in var www why
[14:01] <syc0> resolution?
[14:01] <syc0> its quite easy to break this OS i feel now.
[14:01] <kaleh> syc0: how abt installing hardy from a CD?
[14:01] <syc0> its not working out like that.
[14:01] <tho1> rcomalta___ are you trying to delete them as root? or have you made your user a member of the www group?
[14:02] <rcomalta___> no
[14:02] <tho1> rcomalta___ it is just a permissions thing
[14:02] <syc0> i already have servers running
[14:02] <rcomalta___> how can i do that
[14:02] <rcomalta___> tho 1  no
[14:02] <makiolo__> !man
[14:02] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:02] <tho1> rcomalta___ I usually configure apache to point to a folder in my home directory for the wwwroot...that way I don't run into such problems
[14:02] <syc0> shit...
[14:02] <syc0> thanks for the quick help
[14:02] <Pici> !language | syc0
[14:02] <ubotu> syc0: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:02] <syc0> k
[14:02] <rcomalta___>  tho1 how can i do that
[14:03] <tho1> rcomalta___ I don't recall how I did it....I am logged into the server now looking...give me a minute
[14:03] <rcomalta___> thanks tho
[14:04] <syc0> what do i dooo
[14:04] <syc0> heh
[14:04] <Slart> tich: sorry... got some visitors.. about the translation thingy.. I guess you'll have to ask the developers.. they might even tell about any specifics or special things to consider.. starting without checking with the developers might just waste your time.. perhaps they have a finished translation they haven't released yet.
[14:05] <kitche> syc0: install hardy from cd not sure if they have an alternate cd or not which can be used to upgrade existing systems
[14:05] <tich> hiseran: i maybe figured it out... maybe.
[14:05] <tich> thanks for the help
[14:05] <Hiseran> tich: alright
[14:05] <syc0> its not working out like that
[14:05] <tich> slart:  i think i got it!
[14:05] <kitche> syc0: well then your stuck with a broken system
[14:06] <kitche> syc0: but install hardy from alternate cd is the safest way following the upgrade way but if you won't do that then your stuck\
[14:06] <kaleh> tzd: re-installing wouldn't work because this is thunderbird's problem, i guess. not the package manager's
[14:07] <tho1> rcomalta___ /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default I changed DocumentRoot to read 'DocumentRoot /home/<user>/public_html'
[14:07] <komputes> Can someone give me the command to remove a path from the $PATH variable? The path is /home/na/c/
[14:07] <karol^> hi, where do I need to add 'route add' commands to make them work on startup?
[14:07] <kitche> komputes: just remove /home/na/c from $PATH by reexporting it
[14:08] <david__> thol how can i do this please
[14:08] <komputes> kitche: whats the command to re-explore $PATH ???
[14:08] <david__> thol i am new in this can you help me how can i do this
[14:08] <kitche> komputes: export PATH=<whatyou want in your path>
[14:09] <kaleh> tzd: i guess thunderbird's packaging isn't right
[14:09] <komputes> kitche: how do i replace it with nuthin, null, nada ??
[14:09] <kaleh> tzd: since this is a nightly build
[14:09] <kitche> komputes: well if you replace PATh with nothing so it looks like export PATH=" " you'll won't be able to run any applications
[14:10] <Centipeed> Can anyone help me stop Pidgin opening on startup?
[14:10] <komputes> kitche: i just want to remove this one path, not all of them
[14:10] <Centipeed> I've looked at the options and can't find it
[14:10] <Centipeed> And it's not listed in the startup programs list
[14:10] <tho1> Centipeed you running gnome, kde or something else?
[14:10] <Centipeed> Gnome
[14:10] <kitche> komputes: well just remove /home/na/c from PATH then by rewriting the full PATH but leave out the directory that you don't want in it
[14:11] <komputes> kitche: oh wait, $PATH is bash window specific, so if i restart my shell it will be gone
[14:11] <tho1> Centipeed ok...this is old memory so may be wrong. When you log out is there a checkbox for saving the state?
[14:11] <Centipeed> You can't log out
[14:11] <Centipeed> As far as I can tell
[14:11] <syc0> why didnet the operating system STOP me from updating a conflicting package sourcelist
[14:11] <kitche> komputes: yes unless you wrote Path into a .bashrc or .bash_profile but it's shell specific not really bash
[14:12] <komputes> kitche: what about ~/.profile
[14:12] <komputes> kitche: can i put it in there too?
[14:12] <kitche> komputes: yes or that file
[14:12] <komputes> kitche: thanks
[14:12] <dadehoog> I'm backing up a video DVD (which already has a scratch on it - but seems to play ok) with DVD:Rip ... I'm keen to use an open format. I've selected "ogg" format, and the ".ogm" file format ... but I'm not sure which of the available codecs to pick ... thoughts ?
[14:13] <dadehoog> the default is XVid ... but I'm pretty sure that's not an open fomat.
[14:13] <david__> thol how can i edit this
[14:13] <david__> what i need to do
[14:13] <tho1> Centipeed as I recall for gnome, when you exit you are presented with a screen that allows logout, restart or shutdown, and there is a checkbox for saving the session
[14:13] <Centipeed> tho1: Oh. I thought you meant log out of Pidgin
[14:13] <tho1> Centipeed but I run xfce on all my linux boxes so this is old and maybe erroneous memory.
[14:14] <corruptionoflulz> tho1: you have it right
[14:14] <kitche> dadehoog: Xvid is open
[14:14] <Centipeed> There's no save session checkbox for me
[14:14] <tho1> Centipeed no...what you need to do is shut down pidgin, then log out of gnome and make sure you DO check the box...so it remembers pidgin is off
[14:14] <mattwalston> Anyone using vmware-server on gutsy?  If you logoff as the user that started VMs then the machines power off.  Any else notice that?
[14:15] <Centipeed> Ok. Imma try that
[14:15] <Centipeed> I'll be back if it doesn't work :P
[14:16] <pteague_work> is there any way to keep from getting the 'restricted drivers' pop up every time i reboot?
[14:17] <dadehoog> kitche: really ? I was under the impression that it was a commercially licensed MPEG-4 format ..?
[14:17] <kitche> dadehoog: that is Divx totally different codec
[14:17] <kitche> dadehoog: Xvid is the same thing as Divx but open source :)
[14:17] <dadehoog> kitche: okeydoke. :)
[14:18] <mohamed> hi gyts
[14:18] <mohamed> hi guys
[14:18] <dadehoog> kitche: and the name is a 'pun' on the reverse-engineering of DivX ?
[14:18] <mohamed> am having a problem with bluetooth anyone can help me ?
[14:18] <kitche> dadehoog: probably never looked into it
[14:18] <Centipeed> Ok, that's done
[14:18] <Centipeed> Pidgin no longer starts up
[14:18] <dadehoog> kitche: where is ogg/theora at ..? Is it mature enough for backups ?
[14:18] <willwork4foo> Hi! I've been trying to locate a decent howto for creating a bootable Ubuntu USB thumbdrive? I've found a guide that tells me how to do it in windows... only problem is I don't run windows.
[14:19] <tho1> Centipeed I have my moments
[14:19] <Centipeed> :D
[14:19] <syc0> what can i upgrade Gutsy to?
[14:19] <willwork4foo> anyone got any decent howto URLs?
[14:19] <syc0> hardy?
[14:19] <kitche> syc0: yes
[14:19] <tho1> Centipeed now next time you log out, remember to UNcheck the box so it doesn't remember what you have now (unless you want it to)
[14:19] <mohamed> guys help me
[14:19] <Centipeed> Problem now is that I've added devilspie to my startup programs, but it doesn't have any effect on irssi and Pidgin when I start them manually
[14:19] <kitche> dadehoog: it's good for audio never tried it for anything else though
[14:19] <syc0> is that recomended
[14:20] <kitche> syc0: well if you want to report bugreports and stuff for hardy then yes
[14:20] <L0we> mohamed: you can try dropping your problem here
[14:20] <mohamed> i cant send pictures by bluetooth to my ubuntu pc
[14:20] <L0we> i've problems with bluetooth too by the way
[14:20] <beasty_> is there anyone that can help me with my Xorg.conf ?
[14:20] <Hiseran> who wants chocolate chip okays
[14:20] <L0we> have you paired etc? what software do you use?
[14:21] <NickBurnsSNL> Greetings and Salutations to all ...
[14:21] <mohamed> i have the bluetooth icon up
[14:21] <Hiseran> nickburns
[14:21] <mohamed> i didnt install anything its there already
[14:21] <Hiseran> my name is Smith Comma John
[14:21] <Hiseran> greetings I am from earth
[14:21] <Hiseran> like all of you
[14:21] <L0we> ok, first you have to pair your phone with your pc
[14:21] <NickBurnsSNL> Hirsean:  excellent!
[14:21] <mohamed> my mobile cant see the my pc
[14:22] <L0we> in bluetoothpreferences you can set your pc to be visibl
[14:22] <L0we> e
[14:22] <freak124> I just installed LAMPP (XAMPP for linux), but now I have a little problem: whenever I go to http://localhost, I'm automaticaly redirected to http://localhost/xampp, even thoug there is an index.php in htdocs. Does anyone know how to solve this? It even happens when LAMPP isn't running.
[14:22] <mohamed> yes i did this
[14:22] <mohamed> i didnt solve the problem
[14:22] <L0we> still not visible?
[14:22] <mohamed> yes
[14:22] <NickBurnsSNL> I'm sure this has been asked before, but after the Fiesty upgrade, an existing users desktop windows appear to be 'stuck' and/or the toolbars are no longer available to grab and move around.
[14:23] <mohamed> but my pc shows that there is a phone but cant connect to it
[14:23] <NickBurnsSNL> But a user added 'after' seems to work fine.
[14:23] <kitche> freak124: xampp goes to localhost/xampp you need to configure xampp correctly since xampp highjacks port 80 if it's not configured correctly
[14:23] <perfector> NickBurnsSNL: disable desktop effects
[14:23] <L0we> weird... have you paired your phone before with this pc?
[14:23] <mohamed> it works with vista
[14:23] <NickBurnsSNL> perfector: ah....! is that it?  cool I will try that, thank you.
[14:23] <L0we> in windows or something
[14:24] <mohamed> no problems
[14:24] <wo0f> yo
[14:24] <perfector> NickBurnsSNL: its always best u disable desktop effects during updates
[14:24] <wo0f> have they fixed the bug in 7.10 about the loading screen?
[14:24] <L0we> your phone is confused, the mac address in windows and ubuntu is the same
[14:24] <freak124> kitche: that sounds like chinese to me. Can you tell me how to fix it? I'm new to ubuntu.
[14:24] <wo0f> its a pain installing 7.04 and then apting update
[14:24] <mohamed> i think its a bluetooth service missing to make it connect and send files
[14:24] <L0we> best thing is to delete the partnership with vista
[14:25] <lesshaste_> what app will let me see someone's webcam easily?
[14:25] <LimCore> why ubuntu fails to provide jabber client that doesnt suck?
[14:25] <NickBurnsSNL> perfector:  thanks for the tip!
[14:25] <lesshaste_> skype video doesn't seem to exist for linux
[14:25] <perfector> NickBurnsSNL: uw
[14:25] <mohamed> Lowe
[14:25] <kitche> wo0f: what bug?
[14:25] <perfector> lesshaste_: r u sure?
[14:25] <tho1> lesshaste_ actually skype video does now exist and is the only thing I have found that operates my webcam correctly
[14:25] <L0we> mohamed: yeah, still here....
[14:25] <lesshaste_> tho1, ah!
[14:25] <perfector> tho1: thanks
[14:25] <lesshaste_> tho1, is there a ubuntu package?
[14:26] <mohamed> any ideas how to add serices to bluetooth
[14:26] <mohamed> services
[14:26] <tho1> lesshaste_ Don't know...the laptop is running suse, my webserver runs ubuntu
[14:26] <L0we> no, that's my problem too, but for that you have to be paired
[14:27] <mohamed> how to pair it
[14:27] <L0we> remove the partnership from the phone
[14:27] <L0we> after that, scan again and connect
[14:27] <L0we> (from your phone)
[14:28] <mohamed> my phone doesnt discover it .... but my pc can see the phone
[14:28] <mohamed> when i browse i can see my phone
[14:28] <lesshaste_> what version of skype does video ?
[14:28] <komputes> skype beta
[14:28] <mohamed> but when i press connect it gives an error
[14:29] <L0we> mohamed: have you removed your partnership with your pc on the phone?
[14:29] <perfector> mohamed: whats the error
[14:29] <cyka^> hey people.... state of emergency here
[14:29] <cyka^> :S
[14:30] <komputes> lesshaste v 2.0 beta - http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/
[14:30] <perfector> cyka^: well just shoot
[14:30] <cyka^> ubuntu seems to ahve dropped a partition... and i have no idea how to get it backk...
[14:30] <karol^> can I add static routes to /etc/interfaces without disabling dhcp?
[14:30] <perfector> cyka^: dropped?? u mean u cant see it on ur desktop?
[14:30] <karol^> all examples I found have iface eth0 inet static
[14:30] <cyka^> a 175gb partition whichc contains all my music n movies
[14:30] <mohamed> "obex://[00:19:63:a2:42:47]" is not a valid location
[14:30] <komputes> lesshaste_: I have used it (http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/beta/) it works, but may crash with video sometimes
[14:30] <Centipeed> I've got devilspie ~/.devilsppie/*.ds" in my startup programs, but it doesn't appear to do anything
[14:30] <mohamed> please check the spelling and try again
[14:30] <cyka^> yeah and it doesn't seem to want to read it correctly either
[14:31] <perfector> cyka^: is it a ntfs partition?
[14:31] <Centipeed> After I start up, I open irssi and Pidgin (The two programs it affects when it is running), and there is no effect seen
[14:31] <cyka^> yes it is
[14:31] <Centipeed> Although if I start up devilspie manually, it'll work fine
[14:31] <cyka^> but the other partition on that hd is ntfs and it reads that fine
[14:31] <tho1> cyka^ this might help...I haven't heard back from the other guy <smile>
[14:31] <komputes> Does anyone know what file I can run start up scripts from?
[14:31] <perfector> cyka^: typical.. did ur windows not shutdown properly?
[14:31] <tho1> cyka^  http://pastebin.com/d7d16bc58
[14:32] <komputes> I have a few bash scripts i want to run at startup
[14:32] <lesshaste_> komputes, thanks
[14:32] <mohamed> perfecor you there
[14:32] <komputes> lesshaste_: no problem, good luck
[14:32] <cyka^> perfector, i'm not using windows...
[14:32] <komputes> Does anyone know what file I can run start up scripts from? I have a few bash scripts i want to run at startup.
[14:32] <cyka^> i'm running ubuntu 7.10
[14:33] <ikonia> komputes: rc.local ?
[14:33] <ikonia> komputes: or create your own init script
[14:33] <komputes> ikonia: thank you
[14:33] <L0we> mohamed: iv'e asked you twice whether you've deleted the partnership on your phone or not
[14:33] <L0we> that's your problem
[14:33] <komputes> ikonia: how do i add my init script, so i put it in etc/init.d ?
[14:33] <mohamed> ok let me check
[14:33] <perfector> cyka^: just manually force mounting the partition from command line
[14:33] <LimCore> how to install more recent version of some applications?
[14:33] <perfector> cyka^: and follow instructions after that
[14:33] <LimCore> that are not yet in normall ubuntu 7.10
[14:33] <ikonia> komputes: if you want to create your own init script, then use then use rc-update to add it, or you can just add it to the rc.local file which gets run at boot
[14:34] <cyka^> how do u do that perfector ?
[14:34] <cyka^> force mount
[14:34] <cyka^> ?
[14:34] <L0we> after that you've to pair again with ubuntu
[14:34] <tho1> komputes you put the script in /etc/init.d, but to get it to run at bootup you link it to rc2.d rc3.d...whatever
[14:34] <perfector> cyka^: man mount; man ntfsmount
[14:35] <mohamed> perfecor .. it worked ... it bonded with my pc
[14:36] <perfector> mohamed: no dude its "perfector"
[14:36] <mohamed> let me see if i can send and recieve
[14:38] <Centipeed> What would suddenly cause my grub boot menu to be overwritten?
[14:38] <ikonia> Centipeed: kernel update ?
[14:38] <perfector> Centipeed: an upgrade
[14:38] <ikonia> Centipeed: someone messing around ?
[14:39] <ikonia> Centipeed: what is the problem
[14:39] <Centipeed> I've gotten the original back
[14:39] <Centipeed> Without the entry for Windows XP
[14:39] <mohamed> perfector ... there is a problem ... my phone cant see my pc and vise versa
[14:39] <perfector> Centipeed: gubs smart hee hee
[14:39] <cyka^> grrr
[14:39] <perfector> Centipeed: grubs*
[14:39] <cyka^> only root can do that
[14:40] <mohamed> but the new thing is on my pc it says BONDED and TRUSTED
[14:40] <ikonia> Centipeed: have you changed anything with your windows setup, bios or disk layout
[14:40] <cyka^> stupid permissions stuff
[14:40] <Centipeed> ikonia: Not that I'm aware of
[14:40] <magicrobotmonkey> is there a way to install firefox 2 beta alongside ff 2 like the alpha is in gutsy?
[14:40] <Centipeed> Problem is there's no backup of my old GRUB list in the folder
[14:40] <Centipeed> So now I'll have to rewrite it :(
[14:40] <ikonia> magicrobotmonkey: not from within the package managmer
[14:41] <perfector> Centipeed: not if u r running graphical.. there sure is a graphical tool to do that
[14:41] <chraso> hi node
[14:41] <tho1> Centipeed there is a note about rewriting the windows portion of menu.lst in that pastebin
[14:41] <gurut> greetings. I cant find the snow plugin in my advanced desktop effects settings and I have compiz-extras installed. Where is the snow plugin or how do I enable ot?
[14:41] <malin> hi
[14:41] <kakoonia> hey...
[14:42] <bazhang> hi malin
[14:42] <chraso> can anyone tell me where can i find the upgrade build for compiz of ubuntu fiesty 7.04 as well as ccsm and other compiz tools
[14:42] <gurut> I have ubuntu 7.10
[14:42] <kakoonia> my sound card all of a sudden, disappeared from the device list..
[14:42] <malin> i cannot get my internet connection using 7.10 liveCD, dunno what's wrong, everything seems to be configured ok
[14:42] <kakoonia> now, i have no sound
[14:42] <kitche> chraso: it might be in backports
[14:43] <perfector> kakoonia: u may just have to modprobe the module again
[14:43] <MacTheMad> could someone recommend a good anti-virus program for ubuntu?
[14:43] <Centipeed> tho1: What pastebin?
[14:43] <malin> i get the settings from dhcp, there exaclty the same as in the suse distribution i'm using at the moment
[14:43] <komputes> i think /etc/rclocal affects all users... how do i make it specific to my user only?
[14:43] <ikonia> komputes: thats quite specific
[14:43] <perfector> MacTheMad: f-prot and clam
[14:43] <tho1> Centipeed  http://pastebin.com/d7d16bc58 wasn't it you I put that up for? or are others having the same problem ,smile>
[14:43] <ikonia> komputes: put it in your .bashrc to execute on login
[14:43] <Ryuho> BlogBridge or RSSOwl?
[14:44] <MacTheMad> ty perfector
[14:44] <kakoonia> perfector: what do you mean? how do i use modprobe? and what is it?
[14:44] <wols> komputes: you don't. run it in the user's startup script?
[14:44] <komputes> ikonia: isn't the .bashrc run command for when i open gnome-terminal?
[14:44] <ikonia> komputes: yes, it is. At what point do you want it to riun
[14:44] <ikonia> run
[14:44] <komputes> wols: where is the user startup script?
[14:44] <perfector> kakoonia: man modprobe after u know ur sound card and the driver it uses
[14:44] <komputes> after my login
[14:44] <wols> komputes: in your ~
[14:44] <cyka^> perfector, i just check in fstab and it's there
[14:45] <perfector> cyka^: yup it will be. use "mount" to see if its mounted or not
[14:45] <pteague_work> is there any way to get gnome to ask me for my ssh key password without having to go to the command line & use ssh-add (which i usually use anyways...)
[14:45] <kakoonia> perfector: Thanks.
[14:45] <perfector> kakoonia: uw
[14:46] <ikonia> pteague_work: yes, ssh-ask-pass
[14:46] <komputes> wols: whats the ~/startupscript file called?
[14:46] <cyka^> i tried that mount thing
[14:46] <tho1> Centipeed be careful with that note...there is a digit missing in the windows xp entry...where it defines the boot sector needs to be (0,x) not (0,) there needs to be one more digit
[14:46] <cyka^> but got thge usuage wrong i think
[14:46] <cyka^> i'm crap at cmd line stuff
[14:46] <perfector> cyka^: what does it say??
[14:46] <cyka^> not long beeing using linux
[14:46] <cyka^> so am still very much a n00b
[14:46] <burntlips> rver onlygrace.ablazenet.com
[14:46] <perfector> cyka^: i think u need to use ntfsmount
[14:47] <komputes> Whats the name of the user specific startup script?
[14:47] <perfector> cyka^: everybody is
[14:47] <malin> how about that internet connection problems? can anyone help?
[14:47] <chraso> i have a problem with my ATI Radeon Xpress 200 chipset. when i enables desktop-effects i gets white screen i tried with the fglrx driver in came with the distribution but after using it the desktop-effects says "The Composite extension not available" help me.
[14:47] <kitche> komputes: ~/.bashrc is one or ~/.bash_profile
[14:47] <pteague_work> ikonia> is that something i need to find in the menu or shouldn't nautilus already pick up on that?
[14:48] <kitche> komputes: but I believe .bashrc is the one you want I usually make them both run from .bashrc so I know both are ran
[14:48] <ikonia> pteague_work: you need to launch ssh-ask-pass on login
[14:48] <cyka^> : mount -t type device dir????
[14:48] <SimNIX> hiya
[14:49] <cyka^> brb having a stab at mounting it in root
[14:50] <gurut> greetings. I cant find the snow plugin in my advanced desktop effects settings and I have compiz-extras installed. Where is the snow plugin or how do I enable it? I am running on Ubuntu 7.10 desktop
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gurut: BEst to ask that in #Ubuntu-effects  or is that compiz-effects
[14:52] <gurut> I think its a compiz-effect
[14:52] <pteague_work> hmm... now to try to get firefox's url to stop on certain characters...  anybody have any ideas?
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[14:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:52] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow: it would be Ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[14:52] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: its #compiz-fusion now
[14:52] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow,kitche: #ubuntu-effects forwards to #compiz-fusion though
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks and goodmorning pici...  still waiting for that first cup of coffee to perk
[14:53] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: been in a meeting ;)
[14:55] <rameshasdf> if /dev/hdb3 means (hd1,2) what does /dev/sda1 means
[14:55] <rameshasdf> in grub
[14:56] <mohamed> السلام عليكم
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> hd0,0
[14:56] <perfector> can some1 pls tell me how to get the icon text in my gtk apps
[14:56] <Pici> !ar | mohamed
[14:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:56] <Pici> !arabic | mohamed
[14:56] <ubotu> mohamed: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[14:56] <rameshasdf> jack sparrow how can u tell it
[14:57] <rameshasdf> and is it hd or sd
[14:57] <perfector> im so fed up trying to get it fixed
[14:57] <perfector> im sure im missing a package.. but which 1
[14:57] <chraso> thanks node i think i find what i was lookin for
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> grub doesnt diferenciate
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> it is hd0,0
[14:58] <perfector> Jack_Sparrow: sd would be sata/scsi drives and hd would be ide drives if im not wrong
[14:59] <rameshasdf> yes mine is sata
[14:59] <perfector> Jack_Sparrow: but in newer releases everything is sd
[14:59] <wols> perfector: to a point. with libata everything is sda
[14:59] <perfector> wols: yeah thats right libata.. thanks
[15:00] <rameshasdf> ok so is in the installation menu in ubuntu instead of hd0 for grub i must type sd0
[15:00] <wols>  rameshasdf no
[15:00] <wols> there never is a sd0
[15:01] <Pici> wols: The distiction they were making was for device nodes, its always hd# for grub (right?)
[15:01] <kitche> wols: well grub does have a sd0 actually but I think it doesn't count anymore anyways
[15:01] <rameshasdf> but then why doesn't it detect my linux installation in grub
[15:01] <wols> Pici: yes always. and grub only deals with BIOS drives. (0x80, 0x81 and so on)
[15:01] <wols> never with linux devicenodes
[15:01] <Pici> wols: Right
[15:01] <wols> for the installation of grub device.map determins the mapping grub uses
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> perfector: I run sata drives including my burner and it shows up as hd
[15:02] <wols> rameshasdf: what error do you get in grub?
[15:02] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: what sata controller?
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> No idea what is in this box
[15:02] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: lspci :)
[15:02] <SpookyET> How do you copy symbolic links with nautilus without them getting broken?
[15:03] <perfector> wols: Jack_Sparrow hmm
[15:03] <rameshasdf> damit i forgot i will try another install and get back to u
[15:03] <wols> rameshasdf: did you get a grub bootmenu?
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: after coffee.....
[15:03] <wols> rameshasdf: or only an error message?
[15:03] <rameshasdf> thx for the help guys will get back
[15:04] <rameshasdf> i got the boot menu
[15:04] <rameshasdf> but  when select ubuntu and hit enter
[15:04] <wols> rameshasdf: pastebin your menu.lst then please
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> rameshasdf: duplicate the entry with sd0,0
[15:05] <rameshasdf> it says i couldn't dectect my linux filesystem
[15:05] <rameshasdf> same for windows
[15:05] <wols> rameshasdf: you filesystem is?
[15:05] <tho1> SpookyET as a general rule you don't copy links...you remake them
[15:05] <rameshasdf> ext3
[15:05] <rameshasdf> will do that
[15:06] <rameshasdf> and get back to you
[15:06] <komputes> Has anyone here created a custom usplash theme on Gutsy?
[15:06] <kiliko> How can i my homepage package with apt-get?
[15:07] <perfector> komputes: interesting question. i would mind trying that out
[15:07] <Pici> kiliko: Can you rephrase that?
[15:07] <perfector> komputes: *wouldnt
[15:07] <komputes> perfector: good luck, maybe you'll have better luck than me (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto)
[15:07] <wols> kiliko: you want to make a homepage and need a html editor?
[15:08] <quaal> what is the firefox called that is faster/lighter
[15:08] <Pici> quaal: prism?
[15:08] <quaal> nah
[15:08] <quaal> i thought it was fasterfox but thats just a plugin
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> swiftfox
[15:08] <quaal> swift!
[15:08] <quaal> yes
[15:08] <komputes> perfector: took me 5 minutes, but i don't know if it's badly written or if new versions of gcc and pngtobogl broke....
[15:09] <perfector> komputes: thanks for the link
[15:09] <kiliko> Pici, wols, ops i mean: How can i test my homemade package with apt-get?
[15:09] <komputes> perfector: let me know if it works for you, I have a lot of custom themes I would like to make for gnome-look
[15:10] <perfector> komputes: u got it working riht?
[15:10] <perfector> *right
[15:10] <Prodromoi> Afternoon folks.
[15:10] <Prodromoi> Would someone be able to help me with a newbie question about DHCP please?
[15:10] <Shapeshifter> I have this script to start Trillian and then run some python scripts. It works if I run it manually, but I added it to the session, and now the python scripts wont be executed. Whats the problem? http://nopaste.ch/a10fbf22d5e187b.html
[15:10] <neosix_> kiliko: put package in /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:11] <Kl4m> !ask
[15:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:11] <Prodromoi> I've got a new install of 7,10 and the DHCP isn't allocating an IP correctly.
[15:11] <kiliko> neosix_, i did but it can't find the packge to i need special syntax on the filename?
[15:11] <komputes> perfector: no, i did not get it working right
[15:11] <Pici> kiliko: You'd have to put it in a package repository for apt-get to get it.
[15:11] <komputes> perfector: i hope you will
[15:11] <perfector> komputes: hmm.. thanks a million. im fed up with my usplash
[15:11] <quaal> so does anyone know if swiftfox is actually swifter?
[15:11] <Prodromoi> I've checked the network cable, the route and the network card - they're all working.
[15:12] <Shapeshifter> quaal: It should be according to some benchomarks
[15:12] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: you installed a dhcp server which doesn't give IPs or it's a DHCP client?
[15:12] <neosix_> kiliko: well that packages doesn't exist in apt-list
[15:12] <Prodromoi> The router is giving the right IPs to the other three machines on the LAN.
[15:12] <Pici> kiliko: Launchpad.net provides PPA (personal package archives) that are basically a personal apt repository for people.  Join #launchpad or visit launchpad.net for more.
[15:12] <kiliko> Pici, seems like an overkill for me, or is there any good package for creating a fast repo?
[15:12] <Pici> kiliko: see above ^
[15:12] <Prodromoi> Kl4m - not sure I'm afraid.  It's whatever the default of 7.10 64-bit Ubuntu installed.
[15:13] <Prodromoi> Since the machine can't see the net, it can't update and I can't install anything else.
[15:13] <tonino> g nickserv register tonino<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:13] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: ok the router gives the IPs so you're a dhcp client
[15:13] <komputes> perfector: a lot of people are fed up with their usplash, which is why I want to post all of mine that I created on gnome-look.org, but I can't using this tutorial and gutsy
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> kiliko: are you looking for something like aptoncd
[15:14] <Prodromoi> The router should be giving 192.168.x.x... but this machine always ends up with <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:14] <perfector> komputes: i use feisty and im not sure if usplash has anything to do with gnome
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd > kiliko
[15:15] <Shapeshifter> quaal: It should be according to some benchomarks
[15:15] <Shapeshifter> I have this script to start Trillian and then run some python scripts. It works if I run it manually, but I added it to the session, and now the python scripts wont be executed. Whats the problem? http://nopaste.ch/a10fbf22d5e187b.html
[15:15] <Prodromoi> Any ideas what's wrong, and what I need to change?
[15:15] <quaal> trillian?
[15:15] <Prodromoi> Config file somewhere, or a router setting?
[15:15] <komputes> perfector: gnome-look.org has all kinds of OS mods including bootsplash themes
[15:15] <quaal> what in the dong are you doing using trillian
[15:16] <boris> hi
[15:16] <boris> are there any DJ apps for Linux, like DSS DJ for windoze ?
[15:16] <pteague_work> can anybody tell what character set this is coming from? i'm just getting question marks - RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://((www�dev�test)\.)?server\.(org�com)
[15:16] <perfector> boris: try LMMS
[15:17] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: go to system - admin - network and be sure that 1. the proper network card is active 2. it uses dhcp. If it fails still try setting a static IP
[15:17] <Pici> boris: Check out the packages in the ubuntustudio-audio (I think thats what it is) metapackage and the #ubuntustudio channel as well
[15:17] <Whitor> Can I switch from Gnome to KDE without logging out ?
[15:18] <pteague_work> anybody have any ideas on how to get firefox's urlbar to stop on certain characters?  yeah... like on windows if the urlbar has http://phpfi.com/284070 & i double click anywhere in the 284070 it selects only that instead of the entire url - not only that, but i can use CTRL+arrow key to navigate through segments of text in the urlbar... i.e. it will stop on /, =, &, ?, etc
[15:18] <perfector> does any1 here have a problem with gtk apps and xubuntu
[15:18] <perfector> does any1 here have a problem with gtk apps and xubuntu?
[15:19] <Prodromoi> Kl4m... OK.  Was on roaming mode.  Have changed to DHCP... going to see what happens.
[15:19] <tho1> perfector I am running xfce in both ubuntu and suse and run gtk apps without problems
[15:19] <MacTheMad> what (if anything) can someone tell me about avg free for debian/ubuntu linux? Why isn't it in the synaptic package list? How do I get it? (when I try to download (http) I just get a bunch of strange text appearing upon my display)
[15:19] <Malin^> well, i give up, i cannot figure out what's wrong with the network settings at my liveCD
[15:19] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: roaming mode is default. You can put DHCP on a desktop no problem.
[15:19] <perfector> tho1: i can see any text on my gtk apps buttons any idea y
[15:20] <Malin^> i launch suse, everything works fine, i switch to ubuntu, no network
[15:20] <tho1> perfector I have in the past run into some config problems with text...I think there is a gtk editor that I used to straighten it out.
[15:20] <Pici> perfector: Any recent theme changes?
[15:20] <linux4me> i'm running ubuntu 7.10 under vmware v5.51, how can i add another disk to the works? i am running out of space. tks
[15:20] <perfector> tho1: pici no.. this is right from the start
[15:21] <Prodromoi> Kl4m - on the machine that I'm typing on... on the same network... it's on roaming mode and everything is fine.  Surely the same should be true of the other one?
[15:21] <perfector> tho1: pici i have to guess a lot while using apps like audacity hee hee
[15:21] <pete1> hello
[15:21] <linux4me> i've added a disk to the vm setup but ubuntu doesn't see the disk. i think i'm missing something here in ubuntu
[15:21] <tho1> perfector gtk-config....see if that helps any
[15:21] <perfector> tho1: lemme try
[15:22] <perfector> tho1: i didnt have that installed..
[15:22] <Prodromoi> Hmm.  Changing to DHCP didn't make a difference.  I'll try a static IP.
[15:22] <perfector> tho1: whats the package name?
[15:22] <Malin^> i tried with dhcp, tried with manual settings, nothing works
[15:23] <Malin^> i'm out of ideas what might be wrong
[15:23] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: well yes but it doesn't. Maybe it's a problem related to a 64 bit client, maybe it's the router which is not completely dhcp compliant. Try static
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: You are talking about the anti-virus program right...  Just trying to clarify
[15:23] <tho1> perfector not sure...looking now to see if I can recall what I did. Once I got it all set it gave me no problems so it has been a while
[15:23] <perfector> tho1: god.. thats tempting
[15:23] <bundagan> anybody tried ati catalyst 7.11?
[15:23] <CroX> So I've downloaded FF3. But when I try running it (from the Desktop, since I don't know where or how to install it) all it does is launch FF2. Anyone care to help me with this?
[15:24] <EdgEy> how did you download ff3 ?
[15:24] <wols> CroX: where did you download it to?
[15:24] <rcomalta___> any one run here ubuntu server ver
[15:24] <wols> !anyone | rcomalta___
[15:24] <ubotu> rcomalta___: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:24] <CroX> wols: My desktop.
[15:24] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: yes, I was referred to f-prot & clam but I'm unsure which out of all the options to choose from I would want to install... I'm very familiar with avg tho from windows
[15:24] <Kl4m> Prodromoi: mask will be  <IP_ADDRESS> address will be 192.168.x.25 gateway will be 192.168.x.1 , where x is the same as on the other machine.
[15:25] <EdgEy> CroX, is it a .deb? source files? what
[15:25] <wols> CroX: and what is the full filename?
[15:25] <rcomalta___> does any oneone run ubuntu server ver
[15:25] <EdgEy> mm yes, good plan
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: I am not surprised it isnt in the repos as it isnt needed in linux-ubuntu, just for those most likely you that are trying to protect their windows users
[15:25] <CroX> EdgEy: Från mozilla.com, a tarball with binaries
[15:25] <wols> MacTheMad: why do you want a virus scanner?
[15:25] <CroX> wolferine: firefox and firefox-bin
[15:25] <CroX> wols: firefox and firefox-bin
[15:25] <Kl4m> rcomalta___: see above, and yes many people run ubuntu server, but what is "ver"?
[15:25] <wols> CroX: I said FULL filename.
[15:25] <linux4me> another vmware 5.5.1, ubuntu 7.10 question. how can I get ubuntu 7.10 to see my dvd burner as i want to burn an iso image. when i right click on the iso image in ubuntu, i only get the option to write to disc image and not a dvd or cd. any thoughts?
[15:25] <MacTheMad> wols: for windows file sharing
[15:26] <CroX> wols: firefox and firefox-bin is the FULL filenames of the binaries.
[15:26] <ip00n> does anyone know how i get myself unbanned from #math?
[15:26] <wols> linux4me: use a burn program like k3b or gnomebaker
[15:26] <CroX> ip00n: How does one get banned to that channel? :P
[15:26] <syc0> what i did what change my sources.list from dapper to gutsy , now its not working what do i do?
[15:26] <ip00n> crox: i dont know.
[15:26] <wols> ip00n: offtopic. ask #freenode
[15:26] <ip00n> ah
[15:26] <ip00n> thanks
[15:26] <Kl4m> ip00n: ask #not-math
[15:27] <perfector> tho1: i tried searching synaptic with name and description for gtk-config.. found none
[15:27] <wols> syc0: tell us more about the errors
[15:27] <malin> any ideas on my network problems?
[15:27] <syc0> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[15:27] <syc0> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:27] <syc0>   vim: Depends: vim-common (= 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2) but 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6.1 is installed
[15:27] <syc0>        Depends: vim-runtime (= 1:7.1-056+2ubuntu2) but 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu6.1 is installed
[15:27] <Pici> !paste | syc0
[15:27] <ubotu> syc0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:27] <wols>  perfector packages.ubuntu.com. hint: it's not a package but a program
[15:27] <wols> syc0: stop that!
[15:27] <wols> syc0: remove vim
[15:28] <syc0> ok!
[15:28] <perfector> wols: ok its in the package libgtk1.2-dev tho1
[15:28] <tho1> perfector I'm sorry...can't seem to find it. I located it by accident found it on a menu someplace. It was some sort of gtk configurator...found several web pages about editing .gtkrc and changing fonts, but can't find a reference to that program
[15:28] <wols> malin: do you have a network interface? sudo ifconfig -a. what network card/chip is it?
[15:28] <perfector> wols: tho1 hope it works
[15:28] <drez> hi ppl
[15:29] <syc0> ok 1 sec
[15:29] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: does linux not need any av protection? what if I implement windows file sharing via samba?
[15:29] <wols> MacTheMad: windows malware cannot infect linux in a meaningful way
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !virus
[15:29] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[15:29] <malin> wols, everything runs from liveCD, network interface looks ok, i'll check the network card
[15:29] <wols> MacTheMad: there are about 5 or 6 malware programs out in the wild for linux max
[15:29] <wols> malin: I asked you something
[15:29] <drez> i want ubuntu set to english language but with the dutch monetary notation, where do i set that en how?
[15:30] <syc0> THanks
[15:30] <wols> drez: /etc/environment for console. not sure about X/gnome
[15:30] <MacTheMad> wols: ok but what about the windows machines that will connect?
[15:30] <syc0> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:30] <syc0> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:30] <wols> MacTheMad: AV programs are snake oil
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: let the windows people fend for themselves
[15:31]  * wols puts syc0 on ignore for extended channel pasting
[15:31] <syc0> wols deal with it
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: behave
[15:31] <dundel> hmmmm
[15:31] <Pici> syc0: Use a pastebin.
[15:31] <syc0> sorry i dont know the rules
[15:31] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: yeah but I gotta fix them when they go down LOL
[15:31] <syc0> !pastebin
[15:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:31] <syc0> Oooh
[15:31] <syc0> Nice!
[15:32] <syc0> this channel is quite unique.
[15:32] <malin> wols: the network card is ASRock In RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[15:32] <wols> MacTheMad: checking with linux is the wrong approach tho. not the least cause there aren't any good linux AV programs. just no need
[15:32] <wols> malin: I asked for an existing interface
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> MacTheMad: they all need to have av and anti-spy and anti-ad and better firewalls so deal with it on that side.
[15:32] <MacTheMad> wols: ty
[15:32] <chraso> hey node
[15:32] <MacTheMad> jack sparrow: ty
[15:32] <Pici> MacTheMad: There are linux antivirus programs, but afaik, they only detect windows viruses.
[15:33] <malin> wols, ifconfig shows that it's eth0
[15:33] <Slart> anyone know of a good howto for securing a ubuntu box? things to think of etc..
[15:33] <wols> Pici: but compared to windows ones they are not very sophisticated
[15:33] <Pici> wols: Right, they are more for mailservers/fileservers.
[15:33] <wols> malin: driver it uses it 8139too?
[15:33] <syc0> ok heres a beter result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49027/
[15:33] <malin> yes
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: thanks
[15:34] <drez> wols: how do i set the monetary variables?
[15:34] <drez> which names
[15:34] <chraso> need help again about that stupic error. "The Composite extension not available" when trying to even just run desktop-effects anyone please assist me about this error. i'm using fglrx driver came with fiesty dvd
[15:34] <MacTheMad> pici: that's ok... it would be more for the windows boxes that will connect to this file server once I've got it up
[15:34] <Pici> chraso: What video card?
[15:35] <wols> drez: man locale. LC_MONETARY
[15:35] <tho1> google thinks 'gnome config editor' is a virus!
[15:35] <chraso> ATI Readon Xpress 200
[15:35] <chraso> its onboard
[15:35] <syc0> Jack_Sparrow: i changed source.list from dapper to gutsy... did apt-get update, upgrade, i tried all the apt-get options heh. and aptitude etc..
[15:35] <wols> chraso: is xserver-xgl installed and running?
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: you cant do that
[15:36] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: unfortunately he already has
[15:36] <drez> wols: thanks
[15:36] <chraso> don't know how do i?
[15:36] <wols> chraso: ps aux |grep -i xgl
[15:36] <syc0> yeah i thought it would say, no, new ubuntu user, you cannot do that
[15:36] <syc0> heh
[15:36] <jpg> how can i autoupgrade my ubuntu? i've got major errors...
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: obciously he can and did.. but it wont work
[15:36] <pteague_work> i figured out my firefox issue...  layout.word_select.stop_at_punctuation ... it's turned off by default seemingly on everything except windows
[15:36] <Pici> !wfm
[15:36] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[15:36] <syc0> it must be very common
[15:36] <wols> Jack_Sparrow: with enough --force it will. but if he can pull it off is another matter
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wols: easier to save his stuff and reinstall
[15:37] <Pici> syc0: The reccomended upgrade path is through each version, ie: dapper to edgy. edgy to feisty, feisty to gutsy.
[15:37] <MacTheMad> pici: however I think I'm going to take jack sparrow's & wols' advice & deal with it on the windows side... I just don't understand how they get infected... I download p2p all the time & very rarely get infected & on those few occasions I've always been able to quickly & easily fix
[15:37] <Pici> MacTheMad: Sounds good.
[15:37] <wols> jpg: upgrade from what to what?
[15:37] <MacTheMad> ty all... try not 2 bother u again 4 awhile
[15:38] <syc0> now what?
[15:38] <syc0> Jack_Sparrow what should i do?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0:  I would suggest save your stuff and reinstall
[15:38] <syc0> pathetic.
[15:38] <syc0> hehe
[15:38] <chraso> will have to reboot for that(as i have dial up and can't find the driver for modem.it's agere pci sv92pp. pm me if u knows about its driver available for lin) and what after that?
[15:38] <syc0> aye yaye yayeee
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: If you have a backup from dapper you could go back and start over
[15:39] <Freakazoi1> fglrx kills me
[15:39] <syc0> heh
[15:39] <syc0> i dont think i d
[15:39] <syc0> do*
[15:39] <Pici> syc0: If you had read the documentation on upgrading you would know that we specifically reccomend agains that.
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > syc0
[15:39] <syc0> well, i thats what i was doing a walk through
[15:39] <Tyczek> lol... compiz is buggy a bit... or ati is messing
[15:39] <Tyczek> xd
[15:39] <malin> wols, i can assume that it' s not a problem that i run ubuntu from liveCD instead of hard drive install, it should be working normally, right?
[15:39] <syc0> sorry im new here
[15:39] <Pici> syc0: From where?
[15:39] <Freakazoi1> some1 cann tell me why flgrx and fglgears logs me out?
[15:39] <wols> malin: yes. especially with a 8139 card
[15:39] <syc0> Im new to the Ubuntu OS and Channel.
[15:40] <Eyemean> hi lastnight i used devede to convert mpeg1 and meg2 files to vcd format, played 2day and sound wasnt even recognisable
[15:40] <Eyemean> anyone know wat else i can use
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> syc0: you can see the topic as well as the coc link
[15:40] <Pici> syc0: I understand, what walkthrough told you to do that is what I'm asking.
[15:40] <malin> well. then i have completely no idea what might be wrong
[15:40] <syc0> hey, well thanks a lot! honestly, this channel is helpful++
[15:40] <Pici> syc0: fyi, thats what these !rules factoids are for, we know not everyone can know the rules.
[15:40] <malin> i've tried everything, i think
[15:40] <wols> malin: what errors do you get when you run sudo dhclient eth0? what syslog output if any?
[15:41] <chraso> >wols< what after that?
[15:41] <malin> wols, havent tried that