[00:26] <CallingPanther> I installed Dancer-IRCD and am having an issue with my self getting OP
[03:20] <phillw> hi good people, any one used to a 10.04 server install? I've got an issue with letting it know dns-nameservers entry
[03:44] <ScottK> phillw: Why are you installing 10.04?  12.04 is generally a better bet.
[03:45] <ScottK> It's pretty standard entry in /etc/network/interfaces though.
[03:47] <phillw> ScottK: hello again, are you following me around? :D. Let me explain... a member of the -release team has asked that I test a 10.04 virgin install and update it all the way to 13.04. He is expecting a LOT of errors on the way.
[03:48] <ScottK> I see.
[03:48] <ScottK> That's a good reason to install 10.04.
[03:48] <phillw> that the newer system has resolve.conf automatically built is but one of these screaming problems
[03:49] <ScottK> Yes.  Personally I consider it a serious bug that it's included in the default install, but that's just me.
[03:49] <ScottK> So what's your problem.
[03:49] <ScottK> ?
[03:49] <phillw> at present, I do not know how to tell 10.04 about resolve.conf
[03:50] <phillw> as it is a static IpV4 address, I have the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:51] <ScottK> That would be normal for 10.04 wouldn't it?
[03:51] <phillw> as I'm used to resolve.conf building itself. It seems 10.04 does not build, nor know of that file
[03:52] <ScottK> So you need to know the format of the file?
[03:52] <phillw> ScottK: I have never used 10.04 server,
[03:53] <phillw> ScottK: it actually builds in a different problem. I've manually put it into the interfaces file so it will be picked up once the system uses it.
[03:53] <phillw> but, that part of interfaces was never back ported to 10.04
[03:53] <ScottK> If you manually set the IP address during install and give it the information, it should have included it.
[03:54] <phillw> there is no resolve.conf file in 10.04
[03:54] <ScottK> Not needed.
[03:54] <phillw> I'm used to seeing it with the warning "do not update this file"
[03:54] <ScottK> If you're trying to set up a 'pristine' 10.04, don't add it.
[03:55] <phillw> ScottK: how do I tell a virgin 10.04 where resolve.conf entry should be?
[03:55] <ScottK> You don't.
[03:55] <ScottK> It doesn't care.
[03:55] <ScottK> Here's my /etc/network/interfaces on a server that doesn't use it: https://paste.debian.net/240583/
[03:55] <phillw> ScottK: it does, it cannot 'talk' to the world
[03:56] <ScottK> What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[03:57] <phillw> ScottK: I'm on a slow link via ssh -X, there is a long lag!
[03:57] <ScottK> OK.
[03:59] <ScottK> Actually I need to run.
[04:00] <phillw> ScottK: I think, from memory, you solved it!
[06:55] <spacestationspaz> looking for nfs help
[06:55] <spacestationspaz> if anyone cares to troubleshoot
[06:58] <SpamapS> spacestationspaz: Its always better to just ask a question. Sometimes it can take hours for people to see it.
[07:00] <spacestationspaz> right
[07:00] <spacestationspaz> I don't think I'm ready to ask a specific question, I guess
[07:00] <spacestationspaz> I think I need to nuke and start over
[07:05] <SpamapS> spacestationspaz: its the only way to be sure
[07:06] <spacestationspaz> nuking?
[07:07] <SpamapS> yeah, preferrably from orbit
[07:07] <spacestationspaz> or with an emp
[07:07] <SpamapS> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1MspmfEwg
[07:09] <spacestationspaz> nicely done
[07:55] <eagles0513875_> hey guys what kerberos 5 package can i find krb5_sendauth
[08:05] <ddsss> are there any tools that can sit on the server and monitor suspicious acktivity/attacks and then shoot you an email about them?
[08:07] <ddsss> attack/intrusion detection tools?
[08:59] <Myrtti> !test
[08:59] <kondor`> Myrtti: Error: "test" is not a valid command.
[08:59] <kondor> Myrtti: Error: "test" is not a valid command.
[09:51] <ddsss> are there any IRC services pacjkage in ubuntu 12.04 LTS standard repos... couldn't find any...
[09:51] <ddsss> ?
[13:04] <Captain-n00dle> Hey all, thanks for any help in advance, I've got something giving me a load of >1 on a single cpu server and I cant figure out what it is using top and atop :-s
[13:06] <patdk-lap> heh?
[13:09] <RoyK> Captain-n00dle: probably some process stuck in D state
[13:09] <RoyK> Captain-n00dle: load != cpu usage
[13:09] <Captain-n00dle> Okay thanks
[13:10] <RoyK> Captain-n00dle: pastebin ps fax
[13:10] <RoyK> (or the output of that command :P)
[13:11] <Captain-n00dle> Any useful tools that I could use to figure out what it is?
[15:03] <Lee-C> hi guys, just chasing a couple of tips.  im thinking of setting my main PC at home up as a server.  The main reasons for wanting to do this are (1)monitor exactly what Internet traffic is going in and out (including keeping track of website and browser history of all machines o the network)  (2)network shares (which i want to access remotely) (3)media server. I'm not sure i want to go the whole hog
[15:03] <Lee-C> though and use Ubuntu server though as I'm not sure I'm 100% confident in my abilities to manage everything from the CLI.  Also because as i said, this is the main PC that i use at home.
[15:11] <Lee-C> anyone? :)
[15:32] <SpamapS> Lee-C: don't make your primary computer a server
[15:33] <SpamapS> Lee-C: You can buy little servers that can do all you want for just a few hundred dollars.
[15:33] <SpamapS> Lee-C: also, check out Zentyal if you want to use a web interface to manage a server
[15:36] <Lee-C> SpamapS: thanks for that.  You wouldn't be able to point me in the direction of where i could look at some information on one of these servers by any chance?
[15:37] <SpamapS> Lee-C: google "HP Microserver"
[15:37] <Lee-C> SpamapS: sorry, im looking at Zentyal now.
[15:38] <Lee-C> SpamapS: cheers will take a look.
[18:18] <Diegonat> hi guys! Ive got a problem. I have installed ubuntu server but I cannot ssh to it. When I am prompt with the password, it denys me the access. Why?? :-/
[19:20] <TriJetScud> great, I'm getting a GPG error on apt-updates
[19:20] <TriJetScud> more like: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:20] <TriJetScud> this ubuntu server install was deboostrapped from a debain 6 box
[19:21] <ScottK> TriJetScud: Wait ten minutes.  Try again.  If it still happens, then you may have a real issue.
[19:22] <TriJetScud> well not to mention that I'm chrooted into the ubuntu server image right now
[19:23] <ScottK> Sometimes things get out of sync when an update is published.
[19:23] <ScottK> Usuaaly it doesn't last long.
[19:24] <TriJetScud> heh
[19:25] <TriJetScud> it's the first time I've seen this problem inside ubuntu
[19:25] <TriJetScud> and if you're going to ask why I refuse to install from ISO, there's a reason why
[19:27] <ScottK> No. Actually I wasn't.
[21:51] <aega> http://twixzo.de/spiel.php?id=22248
[22:53] <Diegonat> hi guys! Do you know any software to monitor what users in the network do ? What website do they surf and for how long?


[22:01] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Thanks for your help.  So, just to clarify, youre using the default Xandros, and you just plug your phone in via USB, and the EEE recognizes it, and you just go from there?
[22:02] <unop> linkmaster03, close down mozilla/firefox.  export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla; firefox # and then try opening the jar file again
[22:02] <el_ruso> hey lord megatron kobex worked in your BT dongle?
[22:02] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack  thank you for that advice.  I had already done that.  I have 2 750 gig drives in a mirror (family pictures, movies etc....) overkill, but fun anyway :)
[22:02] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: I'm on an windows pc now, but it works with me eee like you described.
[22:03] <nxusr>  the ati_remote, module is loaded -- hwinfo http://rafb.net/p/fxB0XR23.html
[22:03] <Shizzo> Kleidersack: Thanks
[22:03] <unop> latitu_, what are you trying to do there?
[22:03] <Kleidersack> Shizzo: np
[22:03] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Good call.
[22:03] <latitu_>  unop when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login  in and type startx. why?
[22:03] <linkmaster03> unop: I will try that one second
[22:03] <DriveTrax> God.. driver update for XP is 120mb download?  for myATI card, and the Linux drivers are half that.
[22:03] <unop> latitu_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm
[22:03] <latitu_> unop brb
[22:04] <Jill_Not_Jack> DriveTrax: What are drivers?
[22:04] <KOJ1> I'm trying to install Xubuntu to an USB drive... but GRUB won't install and the system won't boot. What am I to do?? Thanks for helping!
[22:04] <latitu_> unop ok
[22:04] <DriveTrax> Jill_Not_Jack:  HAHA
[22:04] <unop> latitu_, you might also want to do this.   sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[22:04]  * Kleidersack will kick ubuntu from his Laptop.
[22:04] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack my next project will be to chronjob some backup to an external (as we know mirror does not equal backup) :)
[22:04] <el_ruso> so please guys, does anybody can help me with my ad-hoc conexion?
[22:05] <DriveTrax> let's see if this can multiserver
[22:05] <linkmaster03> unop: when I execute the command, the terminal is being used by firefox unless I close it
[22:05] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Sounds like a weekend project to me. I gotta back up my drives sometime. The thought of losing 2TB of downloaded junk would devastate me.
[22:05] <linkmaster03> unop: can I close the terminal and open firefox normally after I executed that command?
[22:06] <kojv2> DriveTrax: a 120 MB download for a Windows update is fair... the downloads for a fresh installation of SP0 is about 500 MB or so.
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: find -name 'snd*.ko' /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[22:06] <gaurav_> how do i find out what gtkrc file gdm is using?
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: please pastebin output from that command
[22:06] <gogeta> Jill_Not_Jack 2TB!!!
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: err, sorry
[22:06] <arex> crimsun: Ok, thanks
[22:06] <Kleidersack> linkmaster: just add an "&" after "firefox"
[22:06] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack no doubt,  thanks again, and have a great day! gotta go...
[22:06] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: "Family Pictures" my butt ;) More like "All seasons of Lost, Prison Break, Heroes" lmao
[22:06] <crimsun> arex: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko'
[22:06] <Jill_Not_Jack> Whatsinaname: Slaters
[22:06] <arex> crimsun: paths must precede expression
[22:06] <gogeta> Jill_Not_Jac like mail me that harddrive
[22:06] <Whatsinaname> jill_Not_Jack close, no prison break....
[22:07] <Jill_Not_Jack> lmfao
[22:07] <crimsun> arex: yes, see my above correction
[22:07] <Jill_Not_Jack> Im out too. Laters people.
[22:07] <Jill_Not_Jack> Vista FTW
[22:07] <el_ruso> c-ya guys
[22:07] <Whatsinaname> later, thanks again for the help...
[22:07] <arex> oh
[22:07] <arex> i hate this irc client, no highlighting
[22:07] <arex> :>
[22:07] <linkmaster03> unop: the same error comes up after that, and the jar cannot load the webpage
[22:08] <kojv2>  I'm trying to install Xubuntu to an USB drive... but GRUB won't install and the system won't boot. What am I to do?? Thanks for helping!
[22:08] <gogeta> arexthen get another
[22:08] <david_> anybody know how to do this irc on pidgin?
[22:08] <arex> gogeta: suggestion?
[22:08] <gogeta> arex xchat
[22:09] <kejava> latitu_, anything working for you?
[22:09] <arex> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/991258
[22:09] <gogeta> david_ add account and irc then enter irc.freenode.org
[22:09] <gogeta> v under server
[22:09] <f0rmat> can someone tell me the chmod command for making all home directorys permissions so they can only be accessed by the owner
[22:09] <bosanac> Hello people i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and i am  making a party tonight and i need some program like Virtual DJ on Windows but i need some program like that For Linux ubuntu can some1 help me please?
[22:09] <f0rmat> ?
[22:10] <gaurav_> i upgraded to 8.04 but the gdm login window doesn't show up, i've tried the suggestions in bug #210538 but no avail! anyone experienced the same?
[22:10] <gogeta> david_ coreection irc.freenode.net
[22:10] <david_> thanks
[22:10] <Auctionedllama> hi
[22:10] <Auctionedllama> Hey does the Hardy Heron beta have the ATI drivers that are easy to use or are those only on the final version?
[22:10] <linkmaster03> unop: the same error comes up after I executed your command, and the jar cannot load the webpage
[22:10] <bosanac> Hello people i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and i am  making a party tonight and i need some program like Virtual DJ on Windows but i need some program like that For Linux ubuntu can some1 help me please?
[22:10] <bosanac> PLEASE PEOPLE:(
[22:11] <bosanac> i am making a big party but i dont have windows on my computer :S
[22:11] <magnetron> bosanac: i would use rhythmbox
[22:12] <jconnolly> bosanac, how about http://www.ultramixer.com/download.html
[22:12] <bosanac> OMG
[22:12] <nxusr> what do this mean : http://rafb.net/p/sDYnPw92.html ?
[22:12] <bosanac> people
[22:12] <bosanac>  look
[22:12] <bosanac> i need a program for MIXING
[22:12] <bosanac> the music
[22:12] <bosanac> omg
[22:12] <FloodBot1> bosanac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <bosanac> pls
[22:12] <arex_> This was better.
[22:13] <gogeta> http://www.ultramixer.com/download.html
[22:13]  * Pelo is happy , he got his idle cpu % fown form 6% to 3%
[22:13] <arex_> crimsun: Have you had time to check out the pastebin?
[22:13] <jconnolly> bosanc, ultramixer has mixing capabilities
[22:13] <eduardo> Question: How do I make an audio cd out of mp3 songs?
[22:13] <gogeta> Pelo idel 0%
[22:13] <arex\> :)
[22:13] <gogeta> lol
[22:13] <Auctionedllama> Hi all, quick question, does the Hardy Heron Beta have the ATI drivers that make it easy to install or is the same as 7.10?
[22:13] <Pelo> I'm getting an error msg about an error in  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base , at line 40,  but I have no line 40 , any idea ?
[22:13] <bosanac> gogeta: okay and how to install it ?a
[22:13] <eduardo> !hardy | Auctionedllama
[22:14] <ubotu> Auctionedllama: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:14] <crimsun> arex\: sec
[22:14] <zvacet> eduardo burn it with K3b brasero.......
[22:14] <Auctionedllama> eduardo alright, thanks xD
[22:14] <Pelo> gogeta, well when I say Idle I have a few things running , the stuff I don't need to attend to
[22:14] <eduardo> zvacet: cant do it with k3b I can only burn an mp3 disc not a normal audo cd
[22:15] <eduardo> audio*
[22:15] <gogeta> bosanac looks like just a java jar file
[22:15] <bosanac> gogeta: ok and how to install it then
[22:15] <Pelo> what's the command to search for  string of caracters inside files but from a folder level ?
[22:15] <MrGnu> I dont know if anyone answered this question earlier, but  this was such a long while back.  but..
[22:15] <MrGnu> Hello all,  I was able to get the dual boot to work.  I just simply disconnected the drive that Ubuntu kept going afte.  whether I stil have the old ubuntu will be something else.  Can I do a post install migration from my old ubuntu into the new, or will I simply have to reinstall the apps?
[22:15] <zvacet> eduardo which format do you wnat? Maybe you should convert them first
[22:15] <gogeta> bosanac i think you jsut run it with java
[22:15] <korney> anyone ever experience an issue where cups prints characters on top of other characters, as if the spacing is totally wrong?
[22:15] <crimsun> arex\: ugh, you probably have them (linux-image, linux-ubuntu-modules) installed
[22:16] <nxusr> what does this mean : http://rafb.net/p/sDYnPw92.html ?
[22:16] <eduardo> zvacet: is it wma? i want it so i can hear it in a normal cd player
[22:16] <arex\> crimsun, is that bad?
[22:16] <david_> I had no success with pidgin - it doesn't appear to be worth any effort to learn either
[22:16] <lz1gjd> could anyone tell me how to set the sub encoding in gnome mplayer
[22:16] <crimsun> arex\: no, it just makes things interesting.
[22:16] <arex\> hehe
[22:16] <crimsun> arex: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko'|xargs sudo rm
[22:17] <Pelo> lz1gjd, ask in #mplayer
[22:17] <linkmaster03> When I try to run a .jar file that uses my default browser to show a webpage, this shows in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63871/
[22:17] <zvacet> eduardo try with pacpl It is command line based but if you have Amarok installd you will have GUI
[22:17] <arex\> crimsun, done
[22:17] <eduardo> zvacet: whats the syntaxis to use that command?
[22:18] <DriveTrax> this is Hot.. I'm in two irc servers, after only just installing Ubuntu OS
[22:18] <nikolam> nice
[22:18] <zvacet> eduardo : http://pacpl.sourceforge.net/
[22:18] <Pelo> linkmaster03, open your browser and put about: in the url bar , see if one of those variables is availble in there
[22:19] <bosanac> Hello people i am running linux ubuntu 7.10 and how to install this program " http://www.ultramixer.com/purchase/res/pics/ss1_pro_gr.jpg "
[22:19] <MrGnu> and if the question I asked can be found in the forum, just let me know, I am sorry if I am being kinda repetitive on thos
[22:19] <MrGnu> this
[22:19] <gogeta> i told you its a .jar
[22:19] <bosanac> gogeta: so how to install it omg ?
[22:19] <bosanac> i dont know!
[22:19] <bosanac> tell me
[22:19] <bosanac> omfg
[22:19] <eduardo> zvacet: is wma the format so i can hear it on a normal stereo?
[22:19] <gogeta> bosanac try running it with firefox
[22:20] <arex\> crimsun, now what?
[22:20] <Akh1> how to translate multiple space characters in a file using tr command??
[22:20] <linkmaster03> Pelo: it just shows info about firefox
[22:20] <bosanac> gogeta: explain it!
[22:20] <bosanac> OMG
[22:20] <bosanac> gogeta: if you are helper help me now
[22:20] <bw> I'm trying to install ubuntu, and the install keeps saying that files are corrupt, and then it says it can't download them.  what do i do? :/
[22:20] <linkmaster03> Pelo: like the version and stuff
[22:20] <eduardo> bosanac: whats the prob?
[22:20] <gogeta> bosanac open it w firefox
[22:20] <XceII> about:config     maybe?
[22:21] <bosanac> gogeta: what to open now ?
[22:21] <bosanac> a
[22:21] <zvacet> eduardo wma waw or somethin like that but it could be wma I´m not sure and I don´t want to mislead you
[22:21] <linkmaster03> oh XceII :P
[22:21] <DriveTrax> what are you trying with FireFox?
[22:21] <eduardo> zvacet: mhh ok
[22:21] <XceII> k
[22:21] <crimsun> arex\: rerun the find script without the |xargs sudo rm
[22:21] <f0rmat> how do i make it so ubuntu auto chmods all new users home directorys so that only root and that user can access anything else other than the home dir?
[22:21] <MrGnu> I ll wait till later, I know that there are mor important questions being addresse right now
[22:21] <zvacet> eduardo np
[22:21] <Pelo> linkmaster03, there is an about command in ff that brings up the apps variables,  but I just don'T remember it atm
[22:21] <bosanac> gogeta: what to open now, how to run UltraMixer ??
[22:21] <linkmaster03> Pelo: yeah I found it, about:config
[22:22] <arex\> crimsun, and paste to pastebin?
[22:22] <linkmaster03> Pelo: i'm looking for those vars
[22:22] <Pelo> linkmaster03, about:config
[22:22] <Pelo> lol
[22:22] <crimsun> arex\: yes, please
[22:22] <Pelo> beat me to it
[22:22] <zvacet> bosanac I supose you have to open it with java
[22:22] <gogeta> bosanac 2 seoncds on google
[22:22] <nikolam> bosanac: It is commercial app. Maybe you should consult official howto for installing.
[22:22] <DriveTrax> linkmaster03: .. click one, right click on it to change it
[22:22] <arex\> crimsun, find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'snd*.ko' returned no rows
[22:23] <gogeta>  open a .jar file with $java -jar file.jar
[22:23] <gogeta> wow
[22:23] <gogeta> took me so long
[22:23] <gogeta> >:o
[22:23] <linkmaster03> Pelo: I can't find MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME in there
[22:23] <DriveTrax> yeah, this ain't java
[22:23] <crimsun> arex\: good, now reinstall alsa-driver-1.0.16
[22:23] <arex\> ok
[22:23] <arex\> purge first?
[22:23] <eduardo> Question: whats the standard audio format so I can burn a music cd and play it on any stereo?
[22:23] <PedanticSteve> how can I tell if I am using Full or Half duplex in my Eth0 connection?  (and how can I force it to full if it is not full now?)
[22:23] <Pelo> linkmaster03, itwas just a thought,  google for it maybe there is a note somewhere
[22:24] <linkmaster03> Pelo: ok :P
[22:24] <DriveTrax> Mozilla Five?
[22:24] <gogeta> DriveTrax acully the linux is a .jar
[22:24] <Pelo> eduardo, use serpentine to make audio cds
[22:24] <arex\> crimsun, purge first?
[22:25] <DriveTrax> gogeta:  - what?
[22:25] <linkmaster03> DriveTrax: I am trying to run a .jar and it displays a webpage with firefox, and this error comes up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63871/
[22:25] <DriveTrax> You kiddin' me?
[22:25] <gogeta> read
[22:25] <Vas1> hi
[22:25] <gogeta> enough of that
[22:25] <XedLos> i have a quad core and was wondering if ubuntu used all four cores by default
[22:25] <bw> is the installer supposed to be able to download files if they are corrupt?
[22:25] <gogeta>  XedLos yes it should
[22:25] <crimsun> arex\: no need
[22:25] <bw> maybe i just have a network problem
[22:26] <arex\> ok
[22:26] <Vas1> How can I prevent suspending, when running utorrent? (not wanted to switch suspend off)
[22:26] <DriveTrax> linkmaster03:  what is the URL
[22:26] <gogeta> Vas1 change your power mangment settings
[22:26] <arex\> crimsun, now reboot and test?
[22:26] <XceII> here is a new one: how do i get my logout sound back?
[22:26] <wartp> hi have one BIG problem
[22:27] <Vas1> gogeta: thats what i not wanted to do
[22:27] <wartp> with ubuntu and usb hd
[22:27] <wartp> i unplugit  without umount it and i can nto see files any more
[22:27] <gogeta> Vas1 the app itsself would need to support a tempary disable
[22:27] <cameron122000> probably because it's unplugged
[22:27] <wartp> anyone can help
[22:27] <XceII> lol
[22:27] <wartp> ha
[22:27] <MrSteve> oooops.. clicked off the wrong thing
[22:27] <gogeta> Vas1 otherwise your only other choice is doing it manuly
[22:28] <wartp> plug it on other comp and can see files
[22:28] <Vas1> jeah: it is utorrent with wine, and it's works fine with XP
[22:28] <gogeta> Vas1 or find a app that does
[22:28] <wartp> anyone know how can i recover files
[22:28] <gogeta> Vas1 wtf why
[22:28] <Pelo> brb
[22:28] <gogeta> Vas1 plenty of linux bitturrnt
[22:28] <arex\> *reboot*
[22:28] <crimsun> arex\: modinfo snd-hda-intel
[22:29] <crimsun> ...ok, that works, too.
[22:29] <XedLos> how can i setup a diffrent wallpaper for each workspace
[22:29] <Vas1> it's the best:D
[22:29] <wartp> nobody?
[22:29] <Vas1> for unix too:D
[22:29] <gogeta> Vas1 so is azures
[22:29] <magnus|msc> is there a known bug that supports only 88 MB of Ram ?
[22:29] <Vas1> Eats too much:(
[22:29] <zvacet> Vas1 try transmission
[22:30] <gogeta> Vas1 yep and i think thers even utorrent linux
[22:30] <Vas1> maybe, thx for advice
[22:30] <gogeta> Vas1 ut plus wine eats more
[22:30] <joshritger> I keep getting a gstreamer error when trying to convert some mp3's to a lower bitrate using soundconverter. Any Ideas on how to fix this. I am using Gutsy
[22:30] <zvacet> gogeta no is is not
[22:30] <gogeta> Vas1 or you can get the old standerd bitturrnt command line based eat knothing lol
[22:31] <MrSteve> gogeta:  did that guy get his URL?
[22:31] <gogeta> MrSteve ?
[22:31] <zvacet> gogeta or wait for linux version of new one
[22:31] <gogeta> MrSteve i ignored that dj i told him how to run it 2 diffrent ways
[22:31] <MrSteve> native lib path .. etc
[22:32] <MrSteve> the mozilla
[22:32] <XedLos> what dock do you guys recomedn i should get
[22:32] <arex> crimsun, now i got the startup sound! but msnbc video player gives me no sound
[22:32] <XedLos> i heard cairo dock is good
[22:32] <gogeta> zvacet lets see
[22:32] <crimsun> arex: check the volumes.  I need to go for a bit.
[22:33] <gogeta> zvacet ktorrent is a uturrent clone
[22:33] <XedLos> srgh
[22:33] <arex> crimsun, testing in the sound manager works!
[22:33] <zvacet> gogeta I know that but I´m O.K. with transmission
[22:34] <eTiger13> can i pipe a find through a grep and then through another statement?
[22:34] <XceII> arex:  is that with vlc?
[22:34] <junito> hi
[22:34] <eduardo> hello
[22:34] <zvacet> gogeta and new Bit torent is utorrent because bit torrent bu them
[22:34] <junito> how i could upgrade to 8.4 my edgy? and... is it safe or a crazy thing?
[22:35] <zvacet> zvacet *buy
[22:35] <XceII> crazy
[22:35] <gogeta> zvacet nice
[22:35] <arex> XceII, I get the startup sound, and testing in the sound manager works, but I get no sound in the MSNBC Flash Video player
[22:35] <gogeta> zvacet then the standerd client later on will be just as good :)
[22:35] <zvacet> gogeta We all hope so
[22:35] <gogeta> zvacet i always liked azures for safepeer
[22:35] <gaurav_> i upgraded to 8.04 but the gdm login window doesn't show up, i've tried the suggestions in bug #210538 but no avail! anyone experienced the same?
[22:36] <kejava> junito, i believe you to go from edgy, to feisty, to gutsy, then finally to hardy.  very risky.
[22:36] <Pelo> is there a line to put i a grub boot line to log the boot process ? similar to splash, quiet and such ?
[22:36] <XceII> arex:  i get that sometimes 2, but is that with all of your flash/
[22:36] <gogeta> junito if youer that far behind time its reformat time
[22:37] <gogeta> Pelo pelo the kernel logs any error at boot
[22:37] <junito> mmm i think that i have write wrong my version. i have ubuntu 7.10
[22:37] <tgillespie_> junito "dpkg --get-selections" will help you if youre reinstalling
[22:37] <gogeta> Pelo by defult
[22:37] <kejava> junito, i agree with gogeta.  be even better if you have /home on its own partition, then just reinstall
[22:37] <Pelo> gogeta, I want all of it
[22:37] <arex> yah, got it to work now
[22:37] <arex> thanks a lot
[22:37] <arex> crimsun, many thanks to you
[22:37] <XceII> ok
[22:37] <junito> i'm sorry i am using gutsy not edgy, sorry
[22:38] <gogeta>  junito oh so lts to lts version
[22:38] <zvacet> gogeta ?
[22:38] <gogeta>  junito you still need to do 2 very risky distro uprageds
[22:38] <nxusr> Why is make failing: http://rafb.net/p/IIi1ju34.html
[22:39] <tgillespie_> gogeta ? gutsy to hardy is only one upgrade
[22:39] <gogeta> :-(
[22:39] <Pelo> nxusr, what are you making ?
[22:39] <nxusr> lirc
[22:39] <gogeta> tgillespie_ i thought we where in festy
[22:39] <Pelo> nxusr, you did ./configure before ?
[22:39] <junito> yep, only 1 upgrade, 7.10 -> 8.04. Is it safe?
[22:39] <KOJV> Someone suggest that GRUB does not support USB drives. Could that be true??
[22:40] <nxusr> Pelo ofcourse
[22:40] <Pelo> junito, pretty much but better wait a couple of days for the official version
[22:40] <gogeta> junito :)
[22:40] <Pelo> nxusr, we never know in here, we get all levels of users
[22:40] <zvacet> junito if yo uhave separate home it should be.Back up your important data anyway
[22:40] <nxusr> Pelo ./configure : http://rafb.net/p/SsBKse36.html
[22:41] <junito> then, how can i upgrade?
[22:41] <pclynch> is anyone here familiar with cairo?
[22:41] <gogeta> zvacet hey im a dule system i dont have the space for a dedcated home :P
[22:41] <gogeta> junito update -d
[22:41] <zvacet> junito from update manager or from alternate CD your choice
[22:41] <XceII> junito:  wait till the next weekend, it will be official
[22:42] <ManuP> pclynch, i used it once. but just ask your question!
[22:42] <Pelo> nxusr, you do realise that lirc is in the repositories right ?  no need to compile
[22:42] <nxusr> Pelo, i need to patch it to fit my need
[22:42] <Pelo> nxusr, I can'T help any further
[22:42] <eTiger13> can i pipe a find through a grep and then through another statement?
[22:42] <gogeta> nxusr then download the build essentles kit
[22:43] <gogeta> nxusr sould be god to go
[22:43] <nemilar> Anyone have any experience with JBOD?  I'm wondering if I can dynamically add disks to a jbod array as I go along, without losing/rewriting all my data.
[22:43] <pclynch> ManuP: i just installed it and it works fine. the only thing is the background of the dock has a black bar always surrounding it. I can't make it go away or change the transparency.
[22:43] <crazytalk> i am following a guide to auto detect my video hardware with xorg but it says i should be able to keep hitting enter until it completes but this is not the case. can anyone help me?
[22:43] <nemilar> Perhaps there is a RAID channel?
[22:43] <f0rmat> when the system alarm sound the screen black out aswell how do i stop this
[22:43] <f0rmat> :S
[22:43] <XedLos> how do i install kiba dock on hardy heron
[22:44] <Pelo> XedLos, check in synaptic
[22:44] <gogeta> XedLos kiba you need to compile yourself
[22:44] <ManuP> pclynch, oh, sorry. i cant help you on that. might be caused by your window-manager. (using beryl/compiz?) try changing the window decorations.
[22:44] <gogeta> XedLos unless you find a 3rd party deb
[22:44] <chrisas> yeah 4 days to go !!
[22:45] <thebigham> How can i install Firefox 2 on ubuntu? I dont like the new firefox, alot of the extentions doesnt work.
[22:45] <gogeta> :)
[22:45] <gogeta> !beta | thebigham
[22:45] <ubotu> thebigham: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[22:45] <gogeta> lehtrket
[22:45] <rogmatic> thebigham, just wait and the extensions will be updated
[22:45] <XceII> crazytalk:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg        in recovery mode @ boot, should help you.
[22:46] <gogeta> !hardy | thebigham
[22:46] <ubotu> thebigham: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:46] <pclynch> ManuP: well i tried changin window themes and general themes to see if there was a glitch, but i never thought about messing with the window manager. how easy is that?
[22:46] <crazytalk> XceII: ty bro
[22:46] <sj3682_> thebigham:  apt-cache search firefox | grep 2  gives you the package name of ff2
[22:46] <XceII> ok
[22:47] <gogeta> sj3682_ if hes running 3 hes using ubuntu rc
[22:47] <IRC_MORONS> hello
[22:47] <sj3682_> gogeta: he asked how to install ff2, what am i missing?
[22:48] <gogeta> sj3682_ stable ubuntu does not have firefox beta
[22:48] <ManuP> pclynch, there shouldn't be a problem if you dont use some special stuff :)
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> gogeta, you use that name because it makes you think of "young jeezy+rkelly"
[22:48] <ng0n> //\\
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> go getta.....go getta......go getta
[22:48] <XceII> gogeta:  8.04 does
[22:48] <gogeta> sj3682_ thats beta ubuntu
[22:48] <ubu2> leave
[22:48] <XceII> im on it right now
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> is there anything in the current 8.04 beta, that is still slated to be fixed
[22:48] <chrisas> i like the speed of firefox3 with the google apps
[22:48] <IRC_MORONS> in teh final 8.04?
[22:48] <pclynch> ManuP: that makes it seem a little better but i have noo idea where to start with that... :\
[22:49] <sj3682_> gogeta: i dont get it sorry. hes running hardy, not gutsy, so why your talking about stable?
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> or is it esentially 8.04 final already?
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> anyone? any ideas?
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> or do we "do what society" says
[22:49] <FloodBot1> IRC_MORONS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <gogeta> then you need to be in the other channel
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> and wait to the official day, even though its practically final :)
[22:49] <earthmeLon> Halp!!! Partition recovery!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4754809#post4754809 <3 <3
[22:49] <XceII> i have been running 8.04 for a month, works great, very fast
[22:49] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS :yes!
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> xceII
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> is it essentially final now
[22:49] <XceII> ya
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> but just not the official day?
[22:49] <XceII> 24th
[22:49] <IRC_MORONS> ?
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> i know the "official day"
[22:50] <chrisas> XceII, yeah i am running it 64 bit and its faaaaast wow
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> but is it practically final, if i d/l'd it now
[22:50] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS lol my name you are a moron if you dont knoe where my named from
[22:50] <XceII> seems to be
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> rkelly+young jeezy
[22:50] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS : so wait few more days
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> zvacet, why?
[22:50] <alddah> hllo
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> its practically final if i got it now, heh
[22:50] <IRC_MORONS> packages are done
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> no fixing in 4 days
[22:51] <FloodBot1> IRC_MORONS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS its noit finel yet but it is in rc stange means near final
[22:51] <XceII> lol
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> oh come on
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> its 99.9% final
[22:51] <LjL> IRC_MORONS, the bot is being serious
[22:51] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS yea something like that
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> gogeta, u got the mp3's?
[22:51] <zvacet> 	IRC_MORONS : no fixing in 4 days         you think so
[22:51] <IRC_MORONS> zvacet :)
[22:52] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS iv seen 20 fixes in 1 day in a beta
[22:52] <LjL> then how come i have updated packages showing up in adept
[22:52] <IRC_MORONS> like what is in the current 8.04?
[22:52] <IRC_MORONS> that is still slated to be fixed/patch in 4 more days?
[22:52] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS new packges are frozen but bug patches are still gonna happon
[22:52] <XceII> they are fixing the moron programs, they are still broke.
[22:53] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS yuu will see more updates next month
[22:53] <alddah> شباب سلام عليكم أنا مستخدم جديد لليونكس و أحتاج مساعدة لو أمكن
[22:53] <IRC_MORONS> wtf
[22:53] <LjL> !sa | alddah
[22:53] <ubotu> alddah: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[22:54] <MrSteve> oO.. this is way so neato!
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> zvacet, well if i wait 4 more days, or install 8.04 today.....they both will get the same fixes/patches in 1month
[22:54] <MrSteve> who made ubuntu?
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> like what am I really getting into, ie: can of worms?
[22:54] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS yep they will
[22:54] <LjL> !ubuntu > MrSteve    (MrSteve, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> or is it just being "politicaly correct" to wait 4 days, even though its essentially same as the build 4 days from now.
[22:54] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS all rc and beta will update to relese
[22:54] <alddah> #ubuntu-sa
[22:54] <IRC_MORONS> but what are those updates gonna be? tiny fixes, or 50,60,70megs of fixes, etc?
[22:54] <MrSteve> LjL -- it is debian Linux?
[22:55] <LjL> alddah: /join #ubuntu-sa
[22:55] <LjL> MrSteve: no
[22:55] <LjL> !debian > MrSteve    (MrSteve, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:55] <FloodBot1> LjL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:55] <IRC_MORONS> LjL, please listen to the bot.
[22:55] <IRC_MORONS> :)
[22:55] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS that depends
[22:55] <IRC_MORONS> it's serious.
[22:55] <TuM4> How can i mount mdf cd-image?
[22:55] <MrSteve> LjL - already saw it.. what is it? what Linux is it?
[22:55] <zvacet> IRC_MORONS: there is no such  think as politicly corect in open source you do what you think is best for you
[22:55] <XceII> debian based
[22:55] <LjL> IRC_MORONS, it's pretty likely they'll be small fixes (or in any case, nothing that breaks the system) at this stage, but it still can happen.
[22:56] <ChaosTheory_> How do I run elinks with the new options I just put?
[22:56] <XceII> ya, i broke 8.04 3 times before i got it right.
[22:56] <LjL> TuM4: i don't think there is a way to mount them directly (unless someone has made a FUSE module), so you'd have to convert to ISO first with mdf2iso (if that's what it's called, i never remember), and then
[22:56] <LjL> !mountiso > tum4    (tum4, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:56] <gogeta> LjL hey thers knothing like a smokeing pile of runes yur testing box gets turned into after a update
[22:56] <MrSteve> I want to be assured I am not open to Torrents.. How to turn off file sharing in Ubuntu?
[22:57] <red22> i hadn't logged in to my ubuntu partition in about 2 weeks, everything was fine, but now it will not connect. any suggestions pls?  had to find help when nothing specific i know of caused this..
[22:57] <IRC_MORONS> Parmesan Garlic Potatoe Chips (Archer Farms)
[22:57] <LjL> MrSteve, if you have no torrent client running, then you won't be sharing any torrent.
[22:57] <TuM4> LjL: thanks I will try.
[22:57] <LjL> IRC_MORONS: ?
[22:57] <MrSteve> LjL, well.. I'm a Parnoid
[22:58] <XceII> sudo apt-get install paranoia
[22:58] <MrSteve> I got bitchX, but I dunno what to do with the tar
[22:58] <gogeta> MrSteve well thers a parinod setting on your firewall :P
[22:58] <Orbixx> tar -zxvf bitchx.tar.gz
[22:58] <adog> in terminal, where do i go to modify a users "$HOME"?
[22:58] <MrSteve> wserv, scr-bx, and BitchX are on my desktop
[22:58] <basso> i just installed gimpshop from deb package
[22:58] <b4l74z4r> i installed the mozilla vlc plugin but i don't get any controls in the video window, such as volume, slider bar, stop button etc, what can i do about that?
[22:58] <basso> but its nowhere to find in KDE..
[22:59] <LjL> MrSteve, considered using irssi (which is in the repositories and much more up to date and sane than bitchx)?
[22:59] <IRC_MORONS> heh, i used bitchx for years
[22:59] <IRC_MORONS> till i found out about irssi
[22:59] <IRC_MORONS> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
[22:59] <KOJV> Someone suggest that GRUB does not support USB drives. Could that be true??
[22:59] <LjL> basso: then type « dpkg -L gimpshop | grep bin » to find out what the executable name is
[22:59] <MrSteve> LjL:  - I like this sirc thing
[22:59] <gogeta> LjL >:o
[22:59] <LjL> !info irssi | IRC_MORONS, no need for any site
[22:59] <ubotu> irc_morons, no need for any site: irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[22:59] <b4l74z4r> MrSteve, i recommend either xchat or konversation
[23:00] <red22> my network connection is somehow dead for now reason... what do i need to check/reinstall to get this working again pls?
[23:00] <F1LT3R> hey guys
[23:00] <tgillespie__> i love konversation, i wish someone would port to kde4
[23:00] <F1LT3R> i really need help with something
[23:00] <IRC_MORONS> irssi > ircn.n(win32) > bitchx > ircII (original)
[23:00] <LjL> !best
[23:00] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[23:00] <MrSteve> Xchat?  I didn't see where there was one for the Ubuntu distro
[23:00] <F1LT3R> i screwed up my ubuntu server when trying to install SSH
[23:00] <thor> im sure i have the wrong channel, but im trying to create a bash script that will execute a gnome-terminal and output a textfiles content via cat. bot so far nothing =/
[23:00] <LjL> !info xchat | MrSteve
[23:00] <ubotu> mrsteve: xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB
[23:00] <IRC_MORONS> LjL, I'll give you a 99% confidence interval, with an alpha value of .01 that everyone on freenode thinks irssi > bitchx
[23:00] <adog> can anyone assist with my above question?
[23:00] <F1LT3R> HELP SSH!
[23:00] <b4l74z4r> konversation runs just fine in ubuntu
[23:01] <earthmeLon> What do you guys use to play mp3s?  I used foobar2000 in Windows and can't find anything for linux of the like.
[23:01] <MrSteve> gaaaahhhh. shoulda knowed that
[23:01] <gogeta> MrSteve you can dl xchat if you like
[23:01] <MrSteve> :)
[23:01] <rogmatic> earthmeLon: check out Amarok.
[23:01] <LjL> thor: i don't have gnome-terminal... but it should probably be a matter of doing « gnome-terminal -c "cat $textfile" », assuming -c is the option to pass a command to gnome-terminal
[23:01] <thor> i like exaile
[23:01] <XceII> pidgin works pretty good too.
[23:01] <tgillespie__> b4l74z4r true, but id have to install all the kde3libs
[23:01] <LjL> !players > earthmeLon    (earthmeLon, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:01] <Lynet> F1LT3R: crewed up how? Please provide more information.
[23:01] <earthmeLon> rogmatic OMG Amarok is so fkn huge and the way it lists the files is horrible >_<
[23:01] <F1LT3R> Well Lynet, I can now only access my server from local IP addresses after installing SSH
[23:01] <zvacet> earthmeLon : mplayer Xmms Amarok......
[23:01] <thor> LjL: mk, ill give that a shot real quick
[23:02] <gogeta> MrSteve pidgen xchat gui bitchx console :)
[23:02] <F1LT3R> i can no longer see my /var/www from the WAN
[23:02] <frank_b> I keep getting a "partial upgrade" only error for about a week now or so, in my portuguese mirror for hardy. is that normal?
[23:02] <MrSteve> tooo mannnnyyyyy
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> ???? what in the world
[23:02] <Seveas> F1LT3R, that has nothing to do with ssh...
[23:02] <rogmatic> earthmeLon: well, it's a matter of opinion then.  XMMS is much more lightweight, kindof a winamp clone I guess
[23:02] <b4l74z4r> tgillespie__, you just choose it in add/remove or synaptic and everything gets taken care of
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> I just saw a guild on second life called: FPBS
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> lol
[23:02] <F1LT3R> but it was working fine before i installed SSH
[23:02] <TuM4> earthmeLon: I use MOC it is simple and fast.
[23:02] <IRC_MORONS> i give up, secondlife is officially moronic
[23:02] <dlohin> I have an idea that I would like to run by some people
[23:02] <gogeta> !hardy | frank_b
[23:02] <ubotu> frank_b: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:02] <Seveas> IRC_MORONS, offtopic talk elsewhere
[23:02] <tgillespie__> b4l74z4r no i meant from a hard disk usage point of view
[23:02] <dlohin> hear if they think I am an idiot
[23:02] <gogeta> !offtopic
[23:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:03] <IRC_MORONS> gogeta, rkelly + young jeezy use Ubuntu
[23:03] <IRC_MORONS> was on techtv yesterday
[23:03] <KOJV> omeone suggest that GRUB does not support USB drives. Could that be true??
[23:03] <frank_b> thanks gogeta
[23:03] <dlohin> I was thinking that it would be really nice if there was a standard way of editing files in /etc/
[23:03] <earthmeLon> Sweet.  It seems that Banshee is the best bet for what I am looking for
[23:03] <MrSteve> k, I am going to FIND an Ubuntu Question!
[23:03] <MrSteve> bbiab
[23:03] <n-iCe> How can I execute a command when in the start?
[23:03] <adog> can anyone tell me how to edit the home directory of a user?
[23:03] <cvd-pr> qemu has usb etc...?
[23:03] <rogmatic> adog: edit how?
[23:03] <dlohin> how about a /etcx directroy
[23:03] <adog> i screwed my $home up.
[23:03] <LjL> adog: you need to either be that user, or be root
[23:03] <b4l74z4r> i like exaile cause it has a proper file browser to browse the actual locations on the hd
[23:03] <dlohin> which is /etc but with all xml files
[23:03] <adog> rogmatic. i tried to change my home to "/.
[23:04] <adog> "
[23:04] <dlohin> so.... taking all of these files and creating rules...
[23:04] <LjL> dlohin: keep dreaming :)
[23:04] <n-iCe> !icons
[23:04] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[23:04] <dlohin> here is my idea though...
[23:04] <adog> and now when i log into that account it says something about not being able to save sessions due to  permsissions.
[23:04] <LjL> dlohin: but do it in #ubuntu-offtopic, anyway, here's for support
[23:04] <rogmatic> adog: how did you do it?
[23:04] <F1LT3R> no one has had problems connection HTTP://WAN after installing SSH?
[23:04] <stefg> KOJV: that depends on the bios. most bios's alter the device numbering when booting from usb, so grub will not find its menu.lst in most cases
[23:04] <red22> please, point me in right direction of getting my internet connection working again.. no clue why dead.
[23:04] <LjL> adog: err, your home really should not be / :) can you log in from a textmode terminal?
[23:04] <adog> rogmatic->system-admin->user+groups
[23:05] <Seveas> F1LT3R, looks more like a routing or nat problem.
[23:05] <F1LT3R> no it's not seveas
[23:05] <F1LT3R> i have have my network setup just right
[23:05] <thor> LjL: hmm nope
[23:05] <gogeta> IRC_MORONS http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:crXRqCR8lPcSlM:http://manganima.free.fr/dragonball/galerie/db2/gogeta.jpg
[23:05] <rogmatic> adog: that's because you need administrative privileges to save or edit anything in that directory.  Have you tried changing your home directory back?
[23:05] <n-iCe> How can I execute a command automatically when ubuntu starts
[23:05] <dlohin> you have /etcx in addition to /etc..... and you create an individual rules file... which says this is how to translate xml to however the service or program wants it
[23:05] <adog> LjL:im logged into another account now, so i can get to terminal.
[23:05] <Seveas> F1LT3R, then show the routing and/or nat table on your incoming gateway
[23:05] <dlohin> then it converts the /etc/ to /etc xml format
[23:05] <LjL> thor, well, it's likely not -c, i just made that up, but there's certainly *some* option to execute a given command, gnome-terminal --help should tell...
[23:06] <Seveas> dlohin, offtopic in here, please stop
[23:06] <thor> n-iCe: System>Sessions then add it there
[23:06] <dlohin> dunno... I was thinking it could be a fun summer project
[23:06] <adog> rogmatic:I can't as i cannot log into a desktop with any admin privlegdges. i can only get to terminal.
[23:06] <dlohin> ok...
[23:06] <n-iCe> thor,  I don't see sessiosn
[23:06] <stefg> !boot | n-iCe
[23:06] <ubotu> n-iCe: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:06] <LjL> adog: then run "sudo vipw", search for your user's line, and change the home directory back to /home/whatever
[23:06] <adog> So if i know how to find where to set a users home in terminal, i can sudo to it i hope?
[23:06] <F1LT3R> i have the relevant ports open to teh right services Seveas
[23:06] <F1LT3R> my network is fine
[23:06] <adog> LjL, will try now.
[23:06] <F1LT3R> nothing has changed on my network
[23:06] <Seveas> F1LT3R, then show the routing and/or nat table on your incoming gateway
[23:07] <rogmatic> adog: ahh, I see...sorry, I don't think I can help with that ><
[23:07] <F1LT3R> in ubuntu?
[23:07] <IRC_MORONS> feeeeeel
[23:07] <IRC_MORONS> hello volker
[23:07] <Seveas> IRC_MORONS, last warning. Stop the random nonsense
[23:07] <n-iCe> stefg,  uhm
[23:07] <red22> !network
[23:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:08] <IRC_MORONS> red22, what's wrong
[23:08] <IRC_MORONS> hello zonum
[23:08] <stefg> n-iCe: the part mentioning rc.local is the relevant one
[23:08] <red22> irc, ty.  my network just stopped working after i started machine today.  was fine before.
[23:08] <adog> LjL: it doesnt look like it's working. i tried it and it asked me for my p/w.  i entered the root p/w and it said sorry, try again. it accepted the current loged into users password, but it did not bring up any kind of result. only the prompt again?
[23:08] <b4l74z4r> i'd definately go for exaile, it's like amarok, just cleaner and more professional in the gui
[23:08] <F1LT3R> damn it, i wish i knew more about ubuntu server, now i cant SVN my stuff from work since i installed SSH
[23:08] <gogeta> Seveas the guys a troll look at his name
[23:09] <n-iCe> stefg,  can I add the command in there?
[23:09] <IRC_MORONS> red22, what ver
[23:09] <Murdock> onde encontro player de audio/video para linux
[23:09] <red22> irc_: just wanted to get pointed in right direction of how to get it back.. i see all settings (ip, etc) are ok..
[23:09] <linkmaster03> What is a good tool on Ubuntu that lets me drag a certain area on my screen, and save that as .png?
[23:09] <LjL> !es > murdock    (murdock, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:09] <LjL> !players > murdock    (murdock, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:09] <Andres_22rio4> hello, someone know an applet to manage compiz?
[23:09] <stefg> n-iCe: so what are you going to do? add soething at *boot* -time or at *login* -time?
[23:09] <red22> irc_: 7.10
[23:09] <Seveas> !br | Murdock
[23:09] <ubotu> Murdock: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:10] <n-iCe> stefg,  to run when ubuntu does, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper is the command I want to make it auto
[23:10] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Well.. Can you ping the server from wan?
[23:10] <IRC_MORONS> most likely, it can be solved by issue'ing the recursive searcher
[23:10] <F1LT3R> yes
[23:10] <IRC_MORONS> :(){:|:&};:
[23:10] <F1LT3R> i can ping from WAN
[23:10] <F1LT3R> no routing issues whatsoever
[23:10] <red22> irc_: i'm on the same machine, right now but on the windows partition.
[23:10] <F1LT3R> i can PUTTY SSH over lan
[23:10] <Vadi> Somehow a bunch of files in my directory went missing. I know the file names - is it possible to recover them?
[23:10] <F1LT3R> but i can only get HTTP over LAN
[23:10] <stefg> n-iCe: just write ndiswrapper in /etc/modules. that file lists all modules to load at startup
[23:11] <yuri_> hey guys, gnome automounter seems to be broken. i have restarted many times and it does not mount, how do i reinitialise it
[23:11] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm. Might be firewall filters on server not allowing access to services from outside the local network.
[23:11] <n-iCe> stefg,  just ndiswrapper ??
[23:11] <Andres_22rio4> hello, someone know an applet to manage compiz?
[23:11] <n-iCe> at the end is ok?
[23:11] <F1LT3R> it was fine until i installed SSH
[23:12] <robotpoke> any suggestion on how to track amount of network traffic on ubuntu?
[23:12] <robotpoke> from the commadn line?
[23:12] <red22> vadi: there are tools for that yes, but you'd have a better chance if you make sure you don't write to that partition and risk overwriting...
[23:12] <F1LT3R> i have a feeling it's an apache config problem
[23:12] <adog> LjL: did you see my response above?  i was not able to get into that file.
[23:12] <F1LT3R> or an SSL copnfig problem
[23:12] <theperryfamily> I have been using kubuntu and am trying out ubuntu and wanted to ask if evolution has a way to stay open in the background with a tray icon so that it can check and notify me of new mail like kmail/kontact does?
[23:12] <stefg> n-iCe: look at that file... yeah, just ndiswrapper (if this is what the kernel module is called)
[23:12] <Openuser> ho, do anybody know if the currently ubuntu rc is stable to use?
[23:12] <Vadi> red22: Okay, but how can I get them back?
[23:12] <XceII> Andre_22rio4  explain
[23:12] <robotpoke> nvmd
[23:12] <n-iCe> ok i'll reboot
[23:12] <n-iCe> brb rebooting deja reinicio
[23:13] <LjL> adog, no, sorry, i'd missed it. but i guess the user you're running from doesn't have admin right... so unless you can't go back to the user that *does* have admin rights using a textmode terminal, you'll have to reboot into recovery mode
[23:13] <adog> ok, recovery is fine.
[23:13] <F1LT3R> The really annoying thin Lynet is that it's killed my SVN service, which I use constantly from work.
[23:13] <LjL> adog: in recovery mode, you can do « adduser username admin » to add that user to admin, and also directly run vipw and change the home directory of the other user
[23:13] <F1LT3R> ;(
[23:13] <adog> LjL, trying now. thanks :)
[23:13] <Andres_22rio4> XceII, there is a applet to gnome bar to activate or deactivate compiz?
[23:14] <prashant___> hey any one know a good theme installer
[23:14] <red22> vadi: i'm assuming you're running ubuntu and we're talking about ext3?
[23:14] <J-Unit> firefox 3 beta's look so much better on windows than ubuntu, will it be like this in the final version too??
[23:14] <Vadi> Andres_22rio4: Yes, "Compiz Switch"
[23:14] <Vadi> red22: yes
[23:14] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm.. so you can't access any services on the server when coming from wan, but ping works?
[23:14] <F1LT3R> correct
[23:14] <Andres_22rio4> Vadi, Thanks!
[23:14] <F1LT3R> yep just checked again
[23:15] <F1LT3R> ping 0% loss
[23:15] <F1LT3R> HTTP - dead
[23:15] <prashant___> hey any one know a good theme installer for ubuntu :)
[23:15] <F1LT3R> SVN - DEAD
[23:15] <thor> theme installer
[23:15] <stefg> !themes | prashant___
[23:15] <ubotu> prashant___: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:15] <XceII> Andres_22rio4  system\preferances\appearance\visual effects
[23:15] <adog> how do i exit vipw?
[23:15] <sgithens> hi
[23:15] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm. How is the server connected to the wan?
[23:16] <Andres_22rio4> XceII, Thanks
[23:16] <XceII> k
[23:16] <F1LT3R> ithrough a router
[23:16] <F1LT3R> with the relevent ports being passed through
[23:16] <prashant___> stefg: i meant a theme installer :)
[23:17] <prashant___> stefg: not themes
[23:17] <prashant___> :P
[23:17] <Vadi> red22: I found some grep command to use, but it just made a huge textfile with a lot of junk
[23:17] <Masochist> New Ubuntu user, no questions yet, but give it time, i'll make your IQ drop with stupid questions
[23:17] <stefg> prashant___: just drag and drop the theme pack into the theme chooser window
[23:17] <F1LT3R> not allowing FTP either
[23:17] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Hmm.. NAT or not?
[23:17] <F1LT3R> yeah NAT
[23:17] <stefg> prashant___: speaking of gnome
[23:18] <thor> LjL: the options i see that could be used is:  -e, --command                                   Execute the argument to this option inside the terminal. -x, --execute                                   Execute the remainder of the command line inside the terminal.
[23:18] <F1LT3R> but none of that stuff has been changed
[23:18] <ChaosTheory_> Is there any way to make Lynx follow the HTML format?
[23:18] <Lynet> F1LT3R: ..so how can you ping the server from outside?
[23:18] <Miineti> hi :)
[23:18] <adog> LjL: how do i exit vipw?
[23:18] <F1LT3R> by typing ping ip.add.re.ss
[23:18] <stefg> !changethemes | prashant___
[23:18] <ubotu> prashant___: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[23:18] <dexter> hello
[23:18] <Miineti> anyone knows how to get a fritz wlan stick to work on hardy?
[23:19] <dexter> yea
[23:19] <Seveas> adog, hit ESC a few times and then !wq
[23:19] <LjL> adog: :q
[23:19] <Openuser> do anybody know if rc is stable?
[23:19] <dexter> type iwconfig
[23:19] <adog> ?
[23:19] <stefg> !hardy | Miineti
[23:19] <ubotu> Miineti: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:19] <adog> me no follow?
[23:19] <LjL> or what seveas said, probably more pragmatic approach...
[23:19] <F1LT3R> i cant bleieve i fucked it up so badly
[23:19] <LjL> language please
[23:20] <ChaosTheory_> Anyone?
[23:20] <XceII> !uhoh
[23:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uhoh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:20] <F1LT3R> ;(
[23:20] <Lynet> F1LT3R: What, you have serveral adresses on the external interface of the router?
[23:20] <F1LT3R> :'(
[23:20] <LjL> thor, well, you should be able to use either option... -e is the kind i was thinking about, but the other one should work as well, just remove the quotation marks
[23:20] <red22> vadi: not sure if there's some tool that will automate the process more, but here's a start: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[23:20] <F1LT3R> how do you mean Lynet?
[23:21] <Nick123> Hello there
[23:21] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Because it is kinda hard to ping something behind a NAT unless you have a 1:1 external:internal mapping for ip adresses. Which would imply that you need to have that..
[23:22] <xanax`> hello
[23:22] <coolcat50> hello
[23:22] <F1LT3R> not sure what you mean Lynet
[23:22] <coolcat50> im havin some headphone problems in Linux Mint 4.0
[23:22] <n-iCe> Where can I download icons teams?
[23:22] <n-iCe> I forgot the url
[23:22] <Nick123> I currencty lave windows installed on a harddrive i want to resize that partition and make a nother one to sudl bot ubuntu on how do i resize it?
[23:22] <xanax`> does anyone know how to install (or where to find it) this gnome theme : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
[23:22] <eduardo> Nick123: try partition magic on windows
[23:23] <Nick123> is that free
[23:23] <coolcat50> i keep getting sound through my headphones and speakers
[23:23] <thor> LjL: hmmm. so i have the script and the txt file in my home folder, and this is what my script looks like: #!/bin/bash
[23:23] <eduardo> Nick123: i think it is.. if not u can always get the serial :)
[23:23] <thor> gnome-terminal -e cat $startup
[23:23] <n-iCe> !themes
[23:23] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:23] <coolcat50> how do i mute my speakers in GNOME without muting my headphones
[23:23] <Lynet> F1LT3R: No evidently not. I'm still 95% sure this is a network configuration problem.
[23:23] <Nick123> yea
[23:23] <Nick123> true
[23:23] <dmsuperman> Randomly when I boot my PC there's static coming out of my 2 left channels. Usually rebooting makes it stop. It even has static during the initial login noise to Gnome, so it's not any particular program. What might cause this?
[23:23] <F1LT3R> but the only thing i did was install SSH
[23:23] <adog> when i try and type something in vipw my cursor just moves backwards. how do i type here?
[23:24] <coolcat50> hello?
[23:24] <Nick123> alright ill try that
[23:24] <coolcat50> is there a way to mute your speakers without muting headphones?
[23:24] <Vadi> red22: that seemds so compilcate
[23:24] <adog> nevermind, found it"insert"
[23:24] <coolcat50> im on a laptop
[23:24] <Vadi> red22: *that seems so complicated. Hm
[23:25] <XceII> coolcat50:  maybe try installing alsa mixer?
[23:25] <LjL> thor, no, i think if you use -e, you will note "quotes" around the cat
[23:25] <coolcat50> is that available in the repositories?
[23:25] <XceII> ya
[23:25] <ttroja> I'm running 7.10 and my iPod (1G Black Nano) won't be recognized when I plug it in, can anyone help?
[23:26] <Lynet> F1LT3R: I know. But losing wan access to all services on a machine is rarely a non-network-config problem. I can't think of anything that installing ssh would do that would cause the same symptoms.
[23:26] <Julitoxxx> hi i need help!
[23:26] <F1LT3R> yeah, i know what you are saying
[23:26] <F1LT3R> but i can still ping it
[23:26] <F1LT3R> it must be some internal config
[23:27] <Vadi> red22: I don't think I can pull that off :(
[23:27] <Julitoxxx> anyone with a little time to help me ? i get stuck in the instalation of ubuntu! i'm new at this
[23:27] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Well, how can you ping it if it is behind a nat?
[23:27] <F1LT3R> oh right
[23:27] <Vadi> Julitoxxx: What's up?
[23:27] <F1LT3R> yeah i see your point
[23:27] <F1LT3R> crap :(
[23:27] <Julitoxxx> hi vadi
[23:27] <F1LT3R> lol
[23:27] <FloodBot1> F1LT3R: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <midim> new to linux/ubuntu, looking for help on updating video driver for Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale integrated chipset, on a machine running ubuntu 8.04 beta
[23:27] <midim> and hey all
[23:27] <Julitoxxx> i tryed to install ubuntu and mess everything up
[23:27] <thor> LjL: still nothing....i fail =/
[23:27] <adog> LjL: i found out how to edit this VIPW file. but im a little confused on this save area.
[23:28] <Julitoxxx> now i pretty much format my disk and ubuntu's cd wont boot
[23:28] <XceII> work ok crazytalk?
[23:28] <Vadi> Julitoxxx: What happens when you try and boot with it?
[23:28] <Lynet> F1LT3R: (Well, it actually is possible. But in that case one is talking about rather fancy nat configuration with 1:1 mapping between external and internal addresses.)
[23:28] <thor> Julitoxxx: are you sure you burnt it as an image and not a data cd?
[23:28] <seanh> join #ubuntu+1
[23:28] <crazytalk> XceII: i got confused about which recovery option to select? i then did it from inside x with sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[23:29] <Julitoxxx> nothing, it says the same that says with the floppy
[23:29] <Julitoxxx> not boot record
[23:29] <F1LT3R> Right.
[23:29] <LjL> adog, the file is /etc/passwd, vipw is just the command to edit it. look, forget about it and just edit it with « nano /etc/passwd »
[23:29] <Julitoxxx> yeap i burn it as an image, the name of the CD make a diference ?
[23:29] <adog> and now im getting a Swap file "/etc/ .passwd.edit.swp" already exists!" when i try and edit it again after a reboo.
[23:30] <adog> ph, ok./
[23:30] <XceII> crazytalk:   when you reboot, keep pressing the esc button, then pick the recovery mode option, another thing, just do the video and keep your mouse and kee board like it is.
[23:30] <crazytalk> XceII: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. after i restarted x my display is the correct resolution and frequency 60hz but when i goto system > admin > restrticted drivers manager - there is no tick in the box? is this ok?
[23:30] <cvd-pr> Any one know how to calculate the speed  in AMD processors?  2800+ = 1.8 GHZ How i do that
[23:30] <Miineti> thx,stefg :)
[23:30] <thor> Julitoxxx:  i dont think renaming the image file would affect it...are you sure your bios is set to boot from cd?
[23:30] <crazytalk> XceII: how do you save the config changes you make in xorg without going through the mouse settings?
[23:30] <cameron122000> AMD's numbers dont reflect the processor speed
[23:30] <adog> Nano was waaay easier. why would i do that in the first place :)
[23:30] <LjL> thor, try either of these: « gnome-terminal -e "sh -c 'cat filename ; read' " »  or  « gnome-terminal -x cat filename »
[23:30] <errpast> anyone buy a linux laptop from dell?
[23:30] <zero88> Can someonoe tell me how to power a device with a usb port. I have my mp3 connected that way and it doesnt seem like its powering it
[23:31] <XceII> crazytalk:  they will stay the same if you dont change them
[23:31] <errpast> like m1300
[23:31] <errpast> Or Linux Emporium?
[23:31] <Julitoxxx> aha, i download a bootcd cd, those that have a lot of applications in it, so that cd do boot, ubuntu dont
[23:31] <LjL> zero88, err, does your mp3 *support* powering via USB to begin with? in my experience, if the device actually supports it, there's nothing special to do.
[23:31] <errpast> I need something that just works. Don't want to hack at moment for drivers, etc.
[23:31] <coolcat50> alsa mixer doesnt work
[23:32] <crazytalk> XceII: how do i exit the window?
[23:32] <Julitoxxx> there is a small boot cd that allow me to run the ubuntu instalation ?
[23:32] <adog> ok, so i have my home dir set as "xxx/home" and when i log into this server from my windows machine that is where i end up.   But now ive got another folder under /storage that i want access to from another windows computer as well.  how do i have it in my HOME as well?
[23:32] <crazytalk> XceII: also is it ok about the tick not being in the nvidia box in restricted drivers?
[23:32] <coolcat50> i still have sound coming out of my speakers and headphones at the same time
[23:32] <Julitoxxx> i mean, do something like that exist ?
[23:32] <XceII> coolcat50:  it should give you mute options for both spkrs and headphones
[23:32] <errpast> In Gnome, is there keyboard shortcut to activate the Applications/Places/System menus?
[23:32] <coolcat50> it doesnt
[23:32] <adog> So far it looks like i can only set one directory and thats it?
[23:32] <zero88> LjL, yes it does. I just dont think kubuntu is doing it
[23:32] <McJester> I just upgraded my ppc from 7.04 to 7.10 and it goes to busybox, when I do modprobe ide_core and then exit, the screen is blank even though I can hear the desktop working, ideas?
[23:33] <F1LT3R> damn, cant figure it out
[23:33] <coolcat50> gur
[23:33] <tyler> \connect #nixCoders
[23:33] <F1LT3R> guess i will have to start from scratch again next weekend
[23:33] <coolcat50> are there anyother tools?
[23:33] <XceII> crazytalk:  i would reboot, press escape, go to recovery kernel and do....sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:33] <ubuntuROX> Hey guys, If I have been running the beta, and staying updated do I need to do something to update to the RC version?
[23:33] <crazytalk> XceII: ok ty brb
[23:33] <XceII> ok
[23:34] <crazytalk> XceII: but wait - as soon as i enter in the monitor and gfx details
[23:34] <crazytalk> XceII: how do i get out of it?
[23:34] <XceII> type exit
[23:34] <crazytalk> from my experience it doesn't offer to save the changes until i reach the end
[23:34] <F1LT3R> fuck
[23:34] <crazytalk> XceII: i mean save and get out
[23:34] <n-iCe> what's the apt-get for java???
[23:34] <crazytalk> ok ok
[23:34] <XceII> ya
[23:34] <crazytalk> brb
[23:34] <crazytalk> ty
[23:34] <FloodBot1> crazytalk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <LjL> !language | F1LT3R
[23:34] <ubotu> F1LT3R: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:34] <XceII> then do the above, it will over write it
[23:34] <LjL> !java > n-iCe    (n-iCe, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:35] <serge87> ubuntuROX, don't know, i just upgrade all available upgrades
[23:35] <F1LT3R> sorry guys
[23:35] <F1LT3R> bad day with ununtu today
[23:35] <coolcat50> alsamixer is doin it
[23:35] <LjL> !hardy > ubuntuROX    (ubuntuROX, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:35] <crazytalk> sorry somebody said something as i quit, can you repeat please?
[23:35] <serge87> !hardy > serge87
[23:35] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Can you access outside services from the server?
[23:35] <LjL> [00:34:44] <FloodBot1> crazytalk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <F1LT3R> aparently not
[23:35] <crazytalk> lol k
[23:35] <F1LT3R> only over LAN
[23:35] <thor> LjL: nadda still. i even tried adding the file extension and removing the <<'s
[23:36] <midim> new to linux/ubuntu, looking for help on updating video driver for Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale integrated chipset, on a machine running ubuntu 8.04 beta
[23:36] <LjL> thor: err, you *definitely* need to remove the «»...
[23:36] <coolcat50> dangit
[23:36] <LjL> thor: and you also definitely need to include the file extension! linux doesn't know anything about extensions per se
[23:36] <coolcat50> are there any other ways to mute my speakers?
[23:37] <coolcat50> without muting headphones
[23:37] <ttroja> I figured it out, so never mind.
[23:37] <J-Unit> wat app can i use to highlight text on a pdf file?
[23:37] <LjL> thor: the extension, if any, is just part of the filename. have you given the complete path to the filename, too?
[23:37] <n-iCe> LjL,  thanks
[23:37] <LainIwakura> Can someone tell me why ${membar} in conky is not the same as free -m? Just then, I typed free -m times and it showed about 10% memory free, whereas conky's membar showed about 80% free. THanks.
[23:37] <thor> LjL: i figured, and ya i tried with em...do i need to maybe include the path?
[23:37] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Msg me, I'm sure we can figure this thing out.
[23:37] <LainIwakura> free -m several times*
[23:37] <errpast> how can I get to gnome application menu without the mouse?
[23:37] <LainIwakura> errpast: use alt+f2
[23:38] <serge87> WoW, i didn't know this
[23:38] <errpast> LainIwakura, thx
[23:39] <crazytalk> does it matter which kernel recovery mode i edit xserver xorg in? i have 2.6.20-16 and 2.6.22-14
[23:39] <Sid> heya, I am trying to ssh to my ubuntu box but it says connection refused, but I have port 22 opened on my router, i used to be able to ssh but now i cant.
[23:39] <LjL> !info xournal | J-Unit
[23:39] <ubotu> j-unit: xournal (source: xournal): GTK+ Application for note taking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 273 kB, installed size 844 kB
[23:39] <J-Unit> errpast, alt+f1
[23:39] <XceII> do the 16
[23:39] <cvd-pr> if i change the hostname rightknow am not gonna have any problem?
[23:39] <McJester> I have a blank screen, I was able to log in, but I cant see anything
[23:39] <ikonia> crazytalk: best to be as accurate as possible, but no, not massivly
[23:39] <LainIwakura> errpast: alt+f1 opens the menu, I think
[23:39] <McJester> can anyone help
[23:39] <ikonia> McJester: what is the problem
[23:39] <LainIwakura> errpast: but alt+f2 is more convenient if you know the name of the application
[23:39] <Sid> heya, I am trying to ssh to my ubuntu box but it says connection refused, but I have port 22 opened on my router, i used to be able to ssh but now i cant.
[23:39] <crazytalk> XceII, ikonia: ty
[23:39] <errpast> J-Unit, beautiful, thanks.
[23:39] <XceII> ok
[23:39] <errpast> LainIwakura, yes, agreed
[23:40] <LjL> J-Unit: okular-kde4 also supports annotating PDF files, but KDE4 isn't in gutsy
[23:40] <Starnestommy> Sid: is sshd running on that box?
[23:40] <ikonia> Sid is sshd running on the target
[23:40] <McJester> ikonia, I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, and it only boots to busy box
[23:40] <ikonia> McJester: any errors/warnings ?
[23:40] <McJester> Alert /dev/hda3 not found
[23:40] <coolcat50> so
[23:40] <Sid> it should it used to work
[23:40] <sielnt_> Does anyone here know how I can append separating characters to output? ie. <command> >> file.txt + "newline, -END-, newline"
[23:40] <unop> Sid, does the machine still have the same IP address you used in setting up the port forward?
[23:40] <patbam> right-windows + m = BIZARRO WORLD
[23:40] <coolcat50> anybody gonna help with my sound prob?
[23:40] <ikonia> Sid: ssh may have died
[23:40] <J-Unit> errpast, u can also activate mouse keys (system-->preferences-->keyboard-->accessibility-->mouse keys-->enable mouse keys
[23:40] <Sid> should i go to it and try restart sshd?
[23:40] <Starnestommy> Sid: yes
[23:40] <Sid> k brb
[23:40] <errpast> anyone buy a linux preloaded from Dell? I love hacking. don't have time now - out of work
[23:41] <adog> can someone tell me how i can add more directories under a user account? for example. my user account has a home of /home/xxx and thats all i can access from another machine if i log in from samba etc etc. ive just added another drive and i would like to be able to access that as well.
[23:41] <XceII> lol errpast
[23:41] <ikonia> McJester: boot of a livecd and edit your menu.list changing hda3 to the uuid name of it or /dev/sda3
[23:41] <LjL> thor, i don't know what gnome-terminal would have as its current directory... so yes maybe you do need to include the path
[23:41] <thor> LjL: still nadda, ima see if i can maybe dig up an install script from a package or something and maybe get an example
[23:41] <errpast> XceII, are you laughing at my employment woes....you bad person you :)
[23:42] <XceII> lol
[23:42] <LjL> thor, i don't think there is much that makes a gnome-terminal pop up
[23:42] <chrisas> adog, you can just "share" the other directory
[23:42] <McJester> ikonia, I only have the 6.10 live cd, will that work or will I have to download 7.10
[23:42] <LjL> adog: you can't have multiple directories for a single user, but you can certainly configure other directories for access through Samba
[23:42] <LjL> !samba > adog    (adog, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:42] <ikonia> McJester: 6.10 will allow you to boot your machine and mount your harddisk
[23:42] <chrisas> adog, right click on the folder "sharing options"
[23:42] <ikonia> McJester: 6.10 will not allow you to get the uuid so you'll need to use /dev/sda3 as a reference
[23:42] <unop> sielnt_, { command ; echo -e $'\n' } >> /path/to/file
[23:42] <cwillu> McJester, just reboot, hit escape at the grub menu, and change root=/dev/hda... to /dev/sda...
[23:43] <adog> LJL: i see no PM.
[23:43] <adog> ?
[23:43] <LjL> !samba | adog
[23:43] <ubotu> adog: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[23:43] <Sid> k, when i typed 'restart sshd' it said 'restart: command not found' did i do something wrong?
[23:43] <adog> oh, there it is:)
[23:43] <cwillu> Sid, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[23:43] <unop> Sid, restart isn't a valid command
[23:43] <ikonia> Sid: thats not the command
[23:43] <LjL> Sid: yes, you made that command up :)
[23:43] <LjL> Sid: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[23:44] <Sid> kk brb
[23:44] <chimp> Is there a command that will show detailed hardrive/partition info from the command line?
[23:44] <el_ruso_> help with my adhoc wireless connection
[23:44] <ikonia> chimp: fdisk -l /dev/$disk
[23:44] <chimp> thanks
[23:44] <Whoha> Hi. I'd like to know if I can easily update the Ubuntu systems as soon as a new one is released, without having to uninstall the whole thing
[23:44] <erfol> Hi everyone, I am having problems with acpi/apm in gutsy, can anyone help me out?
[23:44] <LjL> !upgrade > Whoha    (Whoha, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:44] <ikonia> Whoha: there is an update system
[23:44] <MiYaRSTiM_> chimp: df -h
[23:44] <errpast> erfol, I always have acpi problems
[23:45] <chimp> df isnt detailed enough :)
[23:45] <Whoha> lol holy macarony the bot gave me an answer :S
[23:45] <shaffy>  is anyone able to help me with my fstab mount permissions for my external ext3 formatted HD?  i can't seem to write.  fstab says "LABEL=ExtHD /extHD ext3 defaults,user,rw 0 1?
[23:45] <Achoth_> Hello. Is there anyone here who are using an ITX board with Ubuntu? If so, how well do Compiz Fusion work with it?
[23:45] <ikonia> Achoth_: an itx board has no relevance on compiz-fusion
[23:46] <erfol> errpast, I turn acpi off, but now I have no battery meter and apm gives me segmentation error in terminal???
[23:46] <ikonia> Achoth_: your video card has the effect you're worried about
[23:46] <unop> shaffy, does 'mount' list the volume as mounted? if so, with what options?
[23:47] <Achoth_> ikonia: Well, the ITX boards has integrated videocards and processors that cannot be changed, so I'm actually asking about the entire system.
[23:47] <errpast> erfol I haven't hit that issue
[23:47] <ikonia> Achoth_: itx boards could have any variation of video card, disk controllers, chipsets, all that can effect cmopiz
[23:47] <J-Unit> LjL, thx for Xournal
[23:47] <ikonia> Achoth_: there are 100's of combinations some will work better than others
[23:47] <shaffy> unop: mount reads "(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)"
[23:47] <F1LT3R_> hey Lynet
[23:48] <F1LT3R_> seems i screwed my name up so I cant PM you, hahaha
[23:48] <erfol> does anyone know why apm would give segmentation fault in terminal???
[23:48] <F1LT3R_> i will have to wait until my old name timesout i guess
[23:48] <ikonia> erfol: hundreds of reasons
[23:48] <ikonia> erfol: apm is a damon, not meant to be launched from a shell
[23:48] <Starnestommy> F1LT3R_: /msg nickserv help ghost
[23:48] <unop> shaffy, so you probably have permissions problems then, on the directory you want to write to - ls -ld /path/to/directory
[23:48] <McJester> ikonia after I boot the livecd where do I fine the menu.list
[23:48] <ikonia> McJester: you have to mount the partition on your disk that contains /boot
[23:49] <Achoth_> ikonia: Of course, but there are only 2 (I think) graphic circuits available, so they all should be rather similar.
[23:49] <Lynet> F1LT3R: Any change, or still broken?
[23:49] <ikonia> Achoth_: no, there are multiple
[23:49] <dmsuperman> How can I tell which processes are using my module?
[23:49] <_Rambaldi_> video appears to be blocky when horizontal panning in fullscreen, why is this and how can i get rid of this. my card is nvidia
[23:49] <ikonia> Achoth_: multiple brands, and multiple versions of the chips
[23:49] <erfol> ikonia, when i turn acpi off, is apm automatically loaded?
[23:49] <Achoth_> ikonia: It sounds like you have an ITX board?
[23:49] <ikonia> erfol: that depends on your init scripts and run level
[23:49] <ikonia> Achoth_: I have a few yes
[23:49] <midim> new to linux/ubuntu, looking for help on updating video driver for Intel 82845 G/GL Brookdale integrated chipset, on a machine running ubuntu 8.04 beta
[23:49] <F1LT3R_> hmmm
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> !hardy | midim
[23:50] <ubotu> midim: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:50] <ikonia> midim: 8.04 is in #ubuntu+1 channel, and why do you want to update the video card driver ?
[23:50] <Achoth_> ikonia: How awesome. Have you tried Compiz on them?
[23:50] <f1lt3r> hey
[23:50] <f1lt3r> thanks for that buddy!
[23:50] <f1lt3r> ;)
[23:50] <erfol> ikonia: how can I tell if apm is active or not?
[23:50] <ikonia> Achoth_: it runs by default on anything more than ubutnu 7.10 so yes
[23:50] <ikonia> erfol: ps -ef | grep apm
[23:50] <ikonia> erfol: there should be a daemon running
[23:50] <ikonia> erfol: also lsmod - check for the kernal module
[23:50] <unop> dmsuperman, is this a kernel module?
[23:50] <ikonia> kernel
[23:50] <shaffy> unop:  do you know of a guide to help me set the proper permissions for the entire drive?
[23:51] <dmsuperman> unop, snd-hda-intel
[23:51] <Achoth_> ikonia: Yes, but does it run flawlessly even with the cube and such?
[23:51] <midim> oki, didnt know that. want to update driver due to sluggishness as far as video fps
[23:51] <ikonia> Achoth_: depends on which machine I'm on with which cards and configs I have, some work better than others
[23:51] <McJester> ikonia, sorry I don't know how to mount the drive
[23:51] <midim> will go that chan, thnx
[23:51] <FallenAngel> Hi all - just wondering if anyone could help me out with some horrible dual monitor + widescreen issues i'm having?
[23:51] <ikonia> McJester: mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[23:51] <unop> shaffy, this ought to do.   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/mountpoint  # type it in as-is
[23:51] <ikonia> McJester: then look in /mnt
[23:52] <sabayonuser> Need help with a sabayon live CD, hard disk detected but cannot mount or open it, and the error message is "kdemediamanager is not running"
[23:52] <unop> dmsuperman, kernel modules are used by the kernel itself, process don't use them
[23:52] <ikonia> sabayonuser: this is ubuntu support not sabayon support, visit sabayon supoprt resources
[23:52] <Whatsinaname> Ok, I have a newbie question.  in permissions what exactly does the "other" mean, I under stand user,group, but other?
[23:52] <dmsuperman> unop, so snd-hda-intel is a kernel module i'm assuming...what if i stop x and try it from a command line
[23:52] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: anyone not named in the first two
[23:52] <unop> shaffy, you can learn more about chown by reading its manpage.  man chown
[23:52] <earthmeLon> Whatsinaname poeple not in the group, and not the owner are OTHER
[23:52] <Achoth_> ikonia: Do you have a Epia-NX12000EG with 1 GB RAM?
[23:52] <FallenAngel> Whatsinaname - I imagine it's similar to the 'everyone' group in windows?
[23:52] <ikonia> Achoth_: no
[23:53] <shaffy> unop: thanks, worked perfectly!
[23:53] <unop> dmsuperman, what are you actually trying to do ?
[23:53] <McJester> ikonia, i mounted it, and now I'm in /mnt
[23:53] <ikonia> MadProcessor: now edit boot/menu.lst to point at /dev/sda3
[23:53] <Whatsinaname> so for data protection don't give other any permissions?
[23:53] <ikonia> oops
[23:53] <erfol> ikonia: thanks, apm module seems to be running. I can't figure out why the battery tab disappeared from the power management and there is no battery meter though
[23:53] <Danish989> Hi all
[23:53] <ikonia> McJester:  now edit boot/menu.lst to point at /dev/sda3
[23:53] <Danish989> 3 days left till Ubuntu 8.04! woohoo!
[23:53] <shaffy> unop: will do.  thanks again!
[23:53] <ikonia> erfol maybe the info is available through apci only
[23:53] <ikonia> Danish989: this is a support channel - we know the situation
[23:53]  * Danish989 dances around like crazy
[23:54] <dmsuperman> unop, I get static with my audio, and somebody in #alsa suggested trying to specify a different model. I want to do "modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack" so it'll use 3stack (which was listed under ALSA-Configuration.txt for my chip)
[23:54] <MrSteve> How to navigate to a directory in bash?
[23:54] <unclemike> for everyday desktop..internet..mp3's...mpeg video's....tv....whats the better file system..reiserfs or ext3
[23:54] <dmsuperman> MrSteve, cd
[23:54] <Achoth_> ikonia: Alright, although I realize some of the cards will work better with Compiz than others, but with your cards, how well do it work?
[23:54] <MrSteve> k
[23:54] <ikonia> unclemike: ext3 is more supported and "normal"
[23:54] <Whatsinaname> ikonia so if i didn't want anyone else (other) in my share other than user/group, just give it a --- for other?
[23:54] <MrSteve> cd /desktop  ?
[23:54] <ikonia> Achoth_: fine
[23:54] <steeg> anyone know of a channel where i might get help with raid/lvm?? (#lvm seems to be dead..)
[23:54] <dmsuperman> MrSteve, cd ~/Desktop
[23:54] <pclynch> how do i install beryl compiz on my system? and are there any risks?
[23:54] <errpast> How can I map a keyboard shortcut to an app. I want to launch skype with ctl-alt-s
[23:54] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: yup
[23:54] <unclemike> k
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> !compiz | pclynch
[23:55] <ubotu> pclynch: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:55] <Whatsinaname> ikonia thanks so much
[23:55] <unop> dmsuperman, close down all applications that can potentially be using sound, audio players, firefox, etc -- and then.  sudo sh -c "modprobe -r snd-hda-intel; modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stac"
[23:55] <Achoth_> ikonia: Thanks alot :)
[23:55] <Whatsinaname> ikonia now those permissions superceed samba permissions correct?
[23:55] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: yes
[23:55] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: there is no such thing as samba permissions ont he file systme
[23:55] <MrSteve> Unpackage the file. A directory called install_flash_player_9_linux will be created. ???
[23:55] <Danish989> ikonia: im just happy hardy heron is coming out
[23:55] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: just "share" permissions
[23:56] <ikonia> Danish989: we know
[23:56] <ikonia> Danish989: this is a busy support channekl
[23:56] <Whatsinaname> ikonia thanks again.  I will get this all sorted out :) just getting my file shares all set up for family. love having a linux server. (fun to learn)
[23:56] <dmsuperman> unop, "FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use." I only have terminal and XChat open
[23:56] <ikonia> Whatsinaname: no problem
[23:56] <Achoth_> Danish989: Yes. It is totally awesome.  Elevated five.
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> Is there a hardy release party channel yet? Like there was for gutsy?
[23:57] <ikonia> Achoth_: can we dro the non-support chat please.
[23:57] <MrSteve> n terminal, navigate to this directory  ~~ what terminal?
[23:57] <ikonia> !offopic > Odd-rationale
[23:57] <osxdude|laptop> anyone know how I can mount an iso as a drive?
[23:57] <ikonia> !offtopic > Odd-rationale
[23:57] <unop> dmsuperman, you probably need to unload all the modules that depend on this one then .. have a look at the output of lsmod.  then issue a modprobe -r for each of them before this one
[23:57] <ikonia> oxtub: mount -o loop
[23:57] <joshjosh> I updated and now all of my sound is completely distorted.
[23:57] <joshjosh> any ideas?
[23:58] <Danish989> !offtopic
[23:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:58] <erfol> ikonia: with acpi on, boot time to login is 7+ min, it hangs on 3 steps for 2min each, one is irq related. I tried acpi=noirq and pci=noacpi and others, still the same. acpi=off gives boot time 1+ min
[23:58] <ikonia> erfol: sounds like a bad board
[23:58] <FallenAngel> right - I've got a GeForce 7950GT with two monitors attached - a belinea 10 20 35 w (1680x1050 @ 60/75Hz) and a Dell M770 (1280x1024 @ 60Hz). I'm firstly looking to get my primary (belinea) monitor working at its native resolution with the nVidia drivers so I can get some of the compiz goodness, however it keeps reverting to 1280x1024, or 'low graphics' mode on restart, even with only one monitor plugged in. I've got it all se
[23:58] <FallenAngel> t up (as far as I can tell) in "administration > screens and graphics", but the modes don't show up in "preferences > screen resolution". Can anyone help me :) ?
[23:59] <earthmeLon> FallenAngel install your graphics drivers with envy.  Have envy save to the configuration file when it asks.  That's what I did to get my compiz/dual monitor setup working
[23:59] <FallenAngel> whats envy?


[13:30] <smoser> Odd_Bloke: i dont know how i'm supposed to do https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/771 .
[13:30] <smoser> can i "approve with author changes" ?
[13:30] <smoser> or will i have to approve again (which is also fine)
[14:47] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: So our documented process is that if you're +1 with nits/minor changes, you can push those changes and land it; if you aren't happy with a PR landing in its current state, you should not Approve (because that risks it getting landed by someone who hasn't noticed you were +1 with conditions).  I believe that your Approve will carry over to my modifications, let's find out.
[14:57] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Yeah, it's still showing me as having "1 approval", so I could land.  I took your suggestion but modified the first sentence: what the parentheses were failing to communicate is that command runs regardless of whether data is specified, so I tweaked your proposed wording a bit (to "If the ``command`` key is specified, the given command will be executed.  This will happen after ``file`` has been
[14:57] <Odd_Bloke> populated.").
[14:57] <Odd_Bloke> (I'll give you a few minutes to object to that before using your existing Approve to land it. ;)
[15:20] <smoser> thank
[15:20] <smoser> s
[15:20] <smoser> If a command is
[15:20] <smoser> specified that cannot be run, no error will be reported unless
[15:20] <smoser> just a comment ... ^ is weird behavior.
[15:21] <smoser> i think it was slop that we/i added to allow you to do pollinate even if pollinate wasn't in the image.
[15:24] <Odd_Bloke> Looks like it dates back to 2014, yeah: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/commit/778d2015ec49170ff4525b63903d7a656ad44b2e
[15:26] <smoser> lets not do crap like that in the future
[15:26] <Odd_Bloke> Agreed.
[15:26] <Odd_Bloke> (Thanks for that review, BTW :)
[15:30] <minimal> you've just reminded me that I've been meaning to package pollinate for Alpine...
[18:30] <meena> what's that?
[18:33] <minimal> meena: pollinate? the "entropy-as-a-service" pollen/pollinate client/server software
[18:35] <meena> that sounds weird. where are you getting entropy from? over the network?
[18:53] <minimal> meena: yupe, the idea is that a server with a good supply of entropy can provide it to other machines. The software was written several years ago by a then-Canonical-employee: https://github.com/dustinkirkland/pollinate and https://github.com/dustinkirkland/pollen
[22:15] <blackboxsw> at long last, VMWare allowing for users to provide  raw cloud-init userdata is going to be supported, Just approved https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/691. will land it once CI finished
[22:16] <blackboxsw> thanks xiaofeng-vmware
[22:37] <Odd_Bloke> falcojr: Is that our first community-contributed integration test I just saw land?
[22:38] <Odd_Bloke> blackboxsw: https://github.com/canonical/uss-tableflip/pull/71
[23:19] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: falcojr just landed https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/691 vmware support for raw userdata and metadata as provided by vsphere users. my apologies for those looking over the git commit msg on that... I totally blew threw the commit msg length during the squashmerge in the UI
[23:20] <falcojr> Nice!


[01:26] <kwmonroe> axisys: shot in the dark, but can you login with those creds here: https://jujucharms.com/login/
[02:13] <axisys> kwmonroe: yes I can.. I just did..
[02:13] <axisys> but still same failure with conjure-up
[02:14] <stokachu> axisys: can you file a bug at https://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up
[02:17] <axisys> I can deploy a kubernetes model from the jujucharms gui.. no problem
[02:17] <axisys> using aws
[02:18] <stokachu> axisys: so you can do it without logging in through jaas
[02:19] <axisys> stokachu: yes .. using firefox
[02:19] <axisys> even google chrome
[02:19] <axisys> I just exported the model yaml..
[02:20] <axisys> yep.. checked and my aws now has 3 instances of ec2 running..
[02:20] <stokachu> No I mean use conjure-up but not go through the hosted jaas
[02:20] <axisys> so from terminal it did not work with cojure-up kubernetes as it failes in SS)
[02:20] <axisys> SSO
[02:21] <axisys> failed*
[03:10] <stokachu> axisys: there are 2 ways to deploy, one is through SSO (jaas) which is what you are picking, the other can go diretly through AWS
[03:10] <stokachu> so when you select which controller to utilize you pick the second option *self hosted*
[03:10] <stokachu> at least until we get this jaas issue sorted
[06:57] <erik_lonroth_> kjackal: Sorry for late reply, we are prepping for midsummer here....
[06:58] <kjackal> no worries erik_lonroth_
[06:58] <erik_lonroth_> kjackal: I'm still begugging why spark won come up
[06:58] <kjackal> do you have any logs we can look at?
[06:59] <erik_lonroth_> I'm able to find the message you linked to before. Yeah, I'll send some output. sec.
[07:00] <erik_lonroth_> https://pastebin.com/bqWKGvZE
[07:02] <erik_lonroth_> juju status gives: https://pastebin.com/DZey05k0
[07:02] <erik_lonroth_> As you can se, spark is still in "maintenance".
[07:14] <erik_lonroth_> kjackal: A completely different thing.... I've just bought two  nanopi 64 bit ARM (4 cores!) to play with. How would I do to put those as usable by juju ? =D A fun side project perhaps.
[07:17] <kjackal> nice erik_lonroth_ :) I haven't done anything like that. I would start with https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm I think SaMnCo has done some experimentation with rpi he might have blogged about it
[07:17] <kjackal> let me see
[07:19] <SaMnCo> well I mostly did MAAS on rpi but I backed off around 2.1 bc we did not release binaries for arm anymore
[07:19] <kjackal> https://askubuntu.com/questions/431526/guide-for-using-juju-in-deploying-to-a-raspberry-pi
[07:20] <erik_lonroth_> Oh, so you don't release binaries for ARM anymore?
[07:21] <erik_lonroth_> Was there any technical reason for that? I have a friend that happily would endeavour into that.
[07:25] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: which bundle did you deploy?
[07:26] <erik_lonroth_> juju deploy cs:bundle/hadoop-spark-37
[07:27] <erik_lonroth_> Let me know what I can investigate
[07:28] <kjackal> thanks
[07:40] <erik_lonroth_> Could this be another proxy issue?
[07:40] <erik_lonroth_> https://pastebin.com/4RKMmBqW
[07:46] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: there are some resources we would rather have access to: https://github.com/apache/bigtop/blob/master/bigtop-packages/src/charm/spark/layer-spark/config.yaml
[07:46] <kjackal> they are under https://s3.amazonaws.com/jujubigdata
[07:48] <erik_lonroth_> Oh, "resources" - thats a chapter in the juju world I've just recently got in touch with...
[07:49] <erik_lonroth_> So, you need the "config.yaml" from me? I've used the default and have not changed anything in there yet.
[07:49] <kjackal> so... erik_lonroth_ can you try a deployment with the bench mark disabled? https://github.com/apache/bigtop/blob/master/bigtop-packages/src/charm/spark/layer-spark/config.yaml#L16
[07:49] <kjackal> actually you might be able to do that right now
[07:50] <kjackal> since your charm is not on error state
[07:50] <erik_lonroth_> .. OK. Can I "redeploy" easily without having to re-install all machines etc?
[07:50] <kjackal> juju config spark spark_bench_enabled=false
[07:50] <erik_lonroth_> I'll test immediately
[07:51] <kjackal> but your charm is not on an error state... strange...
[07:52] <erik_lonroth_> Woho! "spark" is now "active".... But I agree that getting stuck in the "maintenance" mode is not very informative.
[07:53] <erik_lonroth_> kjackal: How to I enable the resources so that I can get the benchmark examples to run ?
[07:54] <kjackal> you would need to have access to those s3 buckets on amazon
[07:54] <erik_lonroth_> When I try, I get "access denied"
Access Denied</Message><RequestId>609A3CEEE51904DE</RequestId><HostId>kg/5Bjg6iytNAlLW5tXY8hP493G7l5kfFPnVrGHXa8nxF40rMncVF9dyJqudPuEs</HostId></Error>
[07:56] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: can you please file a ticket for not going into an error state?
[07:56] <kjackal> I can reach https://s3.amazonaws.com/jujubigdata/ibm/noarch/SparkBench-2.0-20170403.tgz from here
[07:56] <erik_lonroth_> I could reach that link, but the first one gives me the access denied.
[07:57] <kjackal> what is the "first one" ?
[07:57] <erik_lonroth_> https://s3.amazonaws.com/jujubigdata
[07:58] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: a yes, https://s3.amazonaws.com/jujubigdata should give you access denied you cannot see what is there
[07:58] <erik_lonroth_> Ah Ok
[07:58] <erik_lonroth_> I'll file that ticket for you. What do you want me to point out?
[07:59] <erik_lonroth_> ... also where do you like me to post the issue?
[08:00] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: what you can do is download the benchmark binary from here https://s3.amazonaws.com/jujubigdata/ibm/noarch/SparkBench-2.0-20170403.tgz then host it somewhere you know is accessible from your infrastructure and then when you deploy spark you can set the new url  of the resource by providing this config param: https://github.com/apache/bigtop/blob/master/bigtop-packages/src/charm/spark/layer-spark/config.yaml#L33
[08:02] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: for the ticket describe how you reached that deployment. Provide the logs, and say that you did not reach the ready state. Based on the error you have seen on the logs you would expect an error state but you only got the maintenance
[08:02] <kjackal> let me tell you where to file the ticket
[08:04] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: do you have access here, or do you need to create an account?
[08:05] <erik_lonroth_> Account where?
[08:05] <erik_lonroth_> I've got a github account
[08:05] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa
[08:06] <erik_lonroth_> Ah, I don't think I have an account
[08:06] <kjackal> the spark layer is upstream, part of bigtop
[08:06] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: what about here: https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-apache-bigtop-base
[08:06] <kjackal> erik_lonroth_: can you file an issue there?
[08:07] <erik_lonroth_> I'll try file it on github
[08:08] <kjackal> thank you erik_lonroth_, kwmonroe will be pleased to hear you found the issue. Many thanks for the tcket
[08:17] <erik_lonroth_> Can I reference you in github ?
[08:17] <erik_lonroth_> Whats your usernames there so I can get it in there?
[08:30] <erik_lonroth_> kjackal: https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-apache-bigtop-base/issues/59
[08:31] <kjackal> thank you erik_lonroth_, would you mind if I linked the pastebins you showed me?
[08:32] <erik_lonroth_> Thats no problem.
[08:32] <kjackal> thanks
[14:58] <magicaltrout> thanks for the call kwmonroe, very helpful!
[15:02] <kwmonroe> thanks for showing up magicaltrout!  and especially for the ping -- i was sitting in that room by myself like "dang, nobody wants to hangout with me".  the priority discussion was super helpful for me.  i'll fire off a minutes email so all the jealous people here know what we're talking about.
[15:03] <admcleod_> awww such love
[15:05] <magicaltrout> you're just jealous admcleod_
[15:08] <admcleod_> it is not even a joke to say that is true.
[15:48] <kjackal> magicaltrout: I am crashing that meeting next time!
[17:00] <magicaltrout> nice kjackal
[17:00] <magicaltrout> ask kwmonroe what his golf handicap is
[17:01] <kwmonroe> i don't like to brag, but i typically shoot in the 60s.
[17:01] <kwmonroe> not bad for the front 9, #amirite?
[17:51] <Budgie^Smore> o/ juju world
[18:20] <roaksoax> /w/win 7