[07:33] <MikeCulver> I'm interested in running a fully-encrypted Ubuntu setup on a laptop.  Is it possible to store the encryption keys needed at boot on a USB storage device?  Would the device need to remain connected?
[07:33] <White^Knight> Madpilot: i've had problems in the past with sudo, but since i've switched to kubuntu, they have all pretty much been worked out :)
[07:33] <Kazuma> i would rather not have to format the XP disk
[07:34] <White^Knight> ok Anacranom :)
[07:34] <Kazuma> I should mention XP is on disk 1, Ubuntu disk 2, and disk 3 is just storage
[07:34] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: do you mean 'fdisk /mbr'?
[07:34] <Shdwstar> Kazuma did u fdisk /mbr?
[07:34] <Shdwstar> jinx
[07:34] <Kazuma> Shdwstar: yes
[07:34] <MikeCulver> heh
[07:34] <White^Knight> lol
[07:34] <Anacranom>  White^Knight, just fyi, same ;-)
[07:35] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: you should be able to boot from the desktop CD and uninstall grub
[07:35] <Kazuma> i am on the live cd now
[07:35] <buntu> HOW to pastebin give me example
[07:35] <MikeCulver> ah
[07:35] <Kazuma> i would love to be able to boot into Ubuntu though
[07:35] <jobless> !pastebin
[07:35] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: oh.. i guess I got here in the middle of that then
[07:36] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: why can't you boot Ubuntu?
[07:36] <Shdwstar> so tell me guys, whats the secret command to make ubuntu installer goto /hdb1/ubuntu8.iso
[07:36] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: on boot it says Error 17 ... and i cant do anything
[07:36] <Kazuma> under GRUB 1.5 and stuff
[07:36] <buntu> HELLO guys how to install build essential without asking cd?
[07:36] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: did you install using the CD in ubuntu or using wubi?
[07:36] <Kazuma> installed using the cd
[07:36] <roxygirl> hi...i am trying to figure out how to change permissions on removable media devices....any ideas?
[07:37] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: not under windows, right?  Booted off the CD first?
[07:37] <dts> I'm trying to browse a SMB share on another computer but gnome never asks for the username or password
[07:37] <Kazuma> yes, booted off it
[07:37] <Myrtti> !info build-essential
[07:37] <dts> so i don't see the folder i want to see
[07:37] <Madpilot> robert__, please don't PM without asking first - thanks. As for sound in ET, no idea - I used to play it, but haven't in at least a year. Sorry.
[07:37] <jobless> buntu disable cd from sources under system->administration
[07:37] <dts> how do i specify the username when i'm browsing a windows share in gnome
[07:37] <robert__> ok srry thanks tho
[07:38] <roxygirl> can anybody help with permissions and read-write stuff on removable media drives?
[07:38] <robert__> any body play et and can help with sound that will grate
[07:38] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: something about HDD access mode in your bios
[07:38] <buntu> jobless: is that the third party repositories?
[07:38] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: have you looked into that?
[07:38] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: and is this a desktop or laptop?
[07:39] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: everything shows up correctly, linux shows the HDs listed correctly
[07:39] <Kazuma> desktop
[07:39] <jobless> buntu under ubuntu software tab .. there is a check box .. uncheck that ..
[07:39] <White^Knight> roxygirl: those should be configurable in the /etc/fstab, i think ;)
[07:39] <Anacranom> !envy || White^Knight
[07:39] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: but grub isn't ubuntu.. it doesn't have the intelligence to handle as diverse of hardware..  grub needs things to be simple.  Error 17 points to a problem addressing the disk grub resides on
[07:40] <jobless> buntu .. system->administration->software sources
[07:40] <buntu> jobless: if i uncheck it it will change the repositores settings right?
[07:40] <Kazuma> grub resides on the XP disk i guess
[07:40] <Kazuma> but should boot the Ubuntu one
[07:40] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: are the OS's on two different physical drives?
[07:40] <Kazuma> yes
[07:40] <Kazuma> XP on disk 1, Ubuntu disk 2
[07:40] <robert__> any body play et and can help with sound that will grate
[07:41] <tox-guy25> may i request assistance regarding ralink rt61 pci?
[07:41] <wols_> White^Knight: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[07:41] <jobless> buntu .. it will just try and get it from a server instead of the cd .. make a backup of your /etc/apt/sources.list if you think it might change something ..
[07:41] <fbthpg> Kazuma: is the OS on a USB drive?
[07:41] <Kazuma> nope, HD
[07:41] <roxygirl> white knight: i'm having troubles figuring out the mounting points in order to configure the fstab.  my ph (which functions as a removable drive) has been auto connecting and i've had full access.  suddenly i made an attempt to transfer music, thought the transfer had completed.  disconnected and discovered there were no files.  upon reconnecting i've had no permission rights and it doesn't show up in the fstab.  any ideas?
[07:41] <Kazuma> SATA to be exact
[07:41] <MikeCulver> fbthpg: this problem wouldn't happen with UMS devices..
[07:41] <Kazuma> all my drives are SATA, including the dvd burner
[07:42] <White^Knight> wols_: ok, where is that at?
[07:42] <fbthpg> in your bois, which is booting first?
[07:42] <wols_>  /var/log
[07:42] <fbthpg> *bois
[07:42] <buntu> jobless: how to install the check install?
[07:42] <Gilgad13> tox-guy25: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980?
[07:42] <Kazuma> XP shows up as /dev/sda1 ... Ubuntu /dev/sdb1 ... and Storage /dev/sdc1
[07:42] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: okay.. grub is expecting a certain order of devices.. which sata channel is the ubuntu HDD on?  and is grub on that same HDD?
[07:42] <MikeCulver> okay..
[07:42] <guiest> what's another desktop enviorment that works well with gnome programs?
[07:42] <jobless> buntu .. ??
[07:42] <Fath[0]m> Tor will not install correctly for me.
[07:42] <wols_> Kazuma: what does /boot/grub/device.map say?
[07:42] <Kazuma> grub must not be on the same disk as ubuntu
[07:42] <wols_> guiest: all do
[07:42] <robert__> how do i log on as root
[07:43] <ArthurArchnix> robert__: Why?
[07:43] <wols_> !root | robert__
[07:43] <MikeCulver> when you did the install, on the last page before you finalized, did you check where the install loaded grub?
[07:43] <buntu> jobless: I mean the check install software... how to install it?
[07:43] <Kazuma> wols: hd0 = sda, hd1 = sdb, hd2 = sdc
[07:43] <White^Knight> roxygirl: sorry, i'm at a loss there
[07:43] <wols_> buntu: checkinstall
[07:43] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: ah..
[07:43] <Gilgad13> tox-guy25: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 as well, though it may be the same thing
[07:43] <buntu> jobless: yes
[07:43] <Fath[0]m> robert__ : to log in as root you do the "sudo" command
[07:44] <tox-guy25> thanks Gilglad13
[07:44] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: browse to /boot/grub
[07:44] <jobless> buntu .. no idea what check install software is ..
[07:44] <Kazuma> where? on /dev/sdb1 ?
[07:44] <wols_> Fath[0]m: before telling him that,better ask him what he exactly wants to do
[07:44] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: and look at your menu.lst
[07:44] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: yes, sdb1
[07:44] <Fath[0]m> has anyone been able to successfully setup Tor in Hardy
[07:44] <jobless> buntu .. searching did not help ..
[07:44] <ArthurArchnix> Nautilus is starting to act strangely for me on Gutsy. When i open my home folder it sometimes says "the folder contents can not be displayed". If I close and re-open they're displayed fine. Sometimes it refuses to open a file. If I close and reopen nautilus this sometimes fixes it. But other times I have to log out. This is all sporadic, but seemingly happening more often.
[07:44] <wols_> Kazuma: if error 17 happens, it happens before menu.lst is read, menu.lst is irrelevant
[07:44] <buntu> jobless: ok thanks never mind...
[07:44] <wols_> buntu: I told you
[07:45] <bradhex> I'm trying to configure my KDE4 panel (using kubuntu 8.0.4) but apparently "The Specified library kicker could not be found", any help?
[07:45] <MikeCulver> wols_: srsly?
[07:45] <tox-guy25> Gilglad13: i've been going around in circles and so far the best version that worked for Ralink rt61 is Feisty Fawn and when I upgraded to Hardy I can longer use RT61 the same way like in Feisty
[07:45] <wols_> MikeCulver: yes. he misses stage15 or stage2, or rather grub misses it
[07:45] <wols_> and hence: error17. he will need to properly reinstall grub
[07:45] <sexcopter> hi, i have an odd question: i have a bunch of files that i want to copy to a usb drive (fat32 partition), but it won't because each file has a colon (:) in it. Is there some way to get rid of just the colon in each filename, or something like that?
[07:45] <wols_> where stage1 is on sda and the rest on sdb1
[07:46] <sexcopter> err, that's ( : )
[07:46] <wols_> sexcopter: mass renaming
[07:46] <jobless> ok buntu .. this what wols_ said .. sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[07:46] <wols_> check the renametools package
[07:46] <sexcopter> wols_: I'll have a look, thanks
[07:46] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: menu.lst shows everything correctly
[07:47] <Kazuma> even XP is listed there
[07:47] <buntu> jobless:  i have a question what would be the first to install the "configure" or the install?
[07:47] <novato_br> !grub
[07:47] <dj_hamsta> im trying to access the SSH machine remotely and unable to yet i can access it within the network
[07:47] <hiz> hi guys
[07:47] <fbthpg> hello, hiz
[07:48] <void^> Kazuma: also make sure your bios boots from the first disk. things get a little more complicated when it juggles things around on boot time
[07:48] <White^Knight> wols_: ok, here it is :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/12380/
[07:48] <Kazuma> BIOS does boot from disk 1
[07:48] <hiz> i an new to linux how can i install ONLY grub when i have got boot problem?
[07:48] <Kazuma> where it quickly goes ERROR 17
[07:49] <buntu> how to use the
[07:49] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: okay.. there is a device.map in /boot/grub... wols_, would that be a possibility?
[07:49] <jobless> buntu .. if you can explain in deatail what you are trying to do, someone can give you precise isntructions .. or it is my fault if I joined the conversation in the middle .. at which point ignore this message ;)
[07:49] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: yes device.map shows correctly
[07:49] <fbthpg> hiz: what kind of boot problem?
[07:50] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: the point is that grub and your bios might not actually see the drives in the same order
[07:50] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: (hd0)   /dev/sda
[07:50] <gnomer> later guys
[07:50] <Kazuma> and so on
[07:50] <hiz> actually i have not problem at morment, but i use dual boot XP and ubuntu.. and sometime i fucked up with boot system,, them i alwasy start to reinstal ubuntu again to ....
[07:50] <hiz> you know what i am doing so stupid:D?
[07:51] <xoxo> any one knows GUI (Graphic User Interface) based multemedia (Audio/Video) conver Please Tel me the name and from where i can download it
[07:51] <Kazuma> hiz: XP was already installed on disk 1, then i tried to install Ubuntu on disk 2
[07:51] <hoss_> any body has ubuntu working on a macbook with wifi
[07:51] <Kazuma> soon as Ubuntu completed and i rebooted, it Error 17ed
[07:51] <djemscheed> yes, actually
[07:51] <Kazuma> and i have been trying to fix it for several hours now
[07:51] <djemscheed> took me a while
[07:51] <djemscheed> macbook, or pro?
[07:51] <hiz> Kazuma , yes right:) thx for reply
[07:52] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: well, I'm poring over grub docs atm.. we should get this sorted out
[07:52] <jobless> buntu .. did you solve your problem?
[07:52] <hoss_> macbook.
[07:52] <montpelie> hi everybody
[07:52] <fbthpg> hello, montpelie
[07:52] <jobless> montpelie hi
[07:52] <xoxo> any one knows GUI (Graphic User Interface) based multemedia (Audio/Video) conver Please Tel me the name and from where i can download it
[07:52] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#17
[07:52] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: read with me :)
[07:52] <buntu> Jobless: my problem now is that how to install the software. using the checkinstall
[07:52] <sexcopter> wols_: i used pyrenamer and it was perfect for the job!
[07:53] <jobless> !checkinstall
[07:53] <Shdwstar> is there anyway to force the ubuntu installer to look at a particular directory to find the iso file (Avoid teh automatic detection crap)?
[07:53] <hiz> when i have got this problem, i just say bye bye ubuntu and reinstall ubuntu.. you know? just for Grub! lol
[07:53] <djemscheed> hoss_: you may find this usefull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616801
[07:53] <eXtigy> How i mount my partitions at boot?
[07:53] <pteague> i've added 2 new sata drives... how do i generate UUIDs for them?
[07:53] <eXtigy> My second HD?
[07:53] <LSD|Ninja> eXtigy: define them in fstab (is there a GUI for that? Anyone?)
[07:54] <montpelie> anybody on wireshark cases???
[07:54] <void^> pteague: partition and create filesystems, run blkid
[07:54] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: the docs recommend trying to change the boot order in bios of the individual drives
[07:54] <ArthurArchnix> Isn't there a file where i can edit my default apps... that is, a /wav file is opened with 'x', and mp3 is opened with x...
[07:54]  * xoxo any one knows GUI (Graphic User Interface) based multemedia (Audio/Video) conver Please Tel me the name and from where i can download it
[07:54] <White^Knight> LSD|Ninja: i don't know if there is a GUI, but that is an easy edit in a text editor
[07:54] <jobless> buntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[07:54] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: yes, they are set correctly in BIOS, i even have an F8 boot menu and tried that
[07:54] <Kazuma> and Error 17 is always what happens
[07:54] <cjae> hi , update manager is saying that I have broken packages on my system and that I should search with broken as a filter to locate them
[07:54] <eXtigy> White^Knight: How i do this??
[07:55] <cjae> how do I do this?
[07:55]  * xoxo any one answer me please
[07:55] <LSD|Ninja> eXtigy: google fstab, there should be plenty of documentation on it
[07:55] <eXtigy> cjae: I am from Brazil, sorry.
[07:55] <eXtigy> cjae: Im not speak english...
[07:55] <eXtigy> :\
[07:55]  * xoxo any one knows GUI (Graphic User Interface) based multemedia (Audio/Video) conver Please Tel me the name and from where i can download it
[07:55] <White^Knight> eXtigy: sudo kate (or any other text editor) /etc/fstab
[07:55] <jobless> !avacado
[07:56] <fbthpg> ***xoxo, try your package manager.
[07:56] <jobless> !super
[07:56] <Bodsda> xoxo, packages.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <xoxo> buti dont know the package name
[07:56] <xoxo> bodsda: i dont know the package name
[07:56] <fbthpg> look for one.
[07:56] <jobless> !Avocado
[07:56] <Bodsda> xoxo, google?
[07:56] <xoxo> bodsda: i m new for ubuntu
[07:56] <yit41> does anyone having amarok problem??
[07:57] <fbthpg> yit41: which problem?
[07:57] <xoxo> bodsda: i have tried but i cant find multipurpose multimedia convertor can any one tel me specefic name of
[07:57] <Bodsda> ffmpeg
[07:57] <Bodsda> xoxo, ^^^^^^^^
[07:57] <tox-guy25> hi i need help in building the module.. i couldnt determine the error
[07:57] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: this might be ugly... but you could reinstall grub on a different disk: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Re-install_Grub_with_Live_CD
[07:58] <tox-guy25> hi i need help in building the module.. i couldnt determine the error.. lawrence@lawrence-laptop:~/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>/Module$ make all
[07:58] <tox-guy25> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/lawrence/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>/Module modules
[07:58] <tox-guy25> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic'
[07:58] <tox-guy25> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/lawrence/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>/Module/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Stop.
[07:58] <FloodBot2> tox-guy25: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <tox-guy25> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/lawrence/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>/Module] Error 2
[07:58] <tox-guy25> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic'
[07:58] <yit41> fbthpg: here's the problem: whenever i play flash related stuff (like youtube, aimini etc), i cant play files in amarok after that
[07:58] <xoxo> bodsda: I want to convert my audio and vido files in different formats please help me if there is any software
[07:59] <White^Knight> xoxo: i'm sure there is some out there, but u'd have to look for it in http://www.google.com
[07:59] <wols_> White^Knight: looks fine. what is the problem?
[07:59] <xoxo> if i would able to find something on google then why i need to come here and ask you all
[07:59] <xoxo> i came here coz i m sure one of you have experience such software
[07:59] <White^Knight> wols_: my opengl and glx don't work
[07:59] <Bodsda> !info ffmpeg | xoxo
[08:00] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: I am going to reboot and try a few things, if nothing works, I will return
[08:00] <Kazuma> thanks, and bbl
[08:00] <fbthpg> yit: first, i would try a different codec, then
[08:00] <White^Knight> wols_: when i tried testing a fireworks gl screensaver, it froze the whole system and i had to do a hard reboot
[08:00] <fbthpg> try updating amarok
[08:01] <jobless> !ffmpeg
[08:01] <MikeCulver> Anyone have experience with LVM and fully encryption?  I have some questions.
[08:02] <Bodsda> !anyone | MikeCulver
[08:02] <zaggy-nl|cpts600> tl;dr: the question, ask it!
[08:02] <hiz> ty kazuma and all!
[08:02] <Jck_true> Hey... I've locked myself out of my VPS... Anyone care taking a look on my iptables -L command? http://www.pastethat.com/1CdJu
[08:02] <montpelie> hey
[08:02] <yit41> hhhhh
[08:02] <rredd4> hooo
[08:03] <Bodsda> guys, enough with the pointless posts please
[08:03] <montpelie> anybody clamav not working on HH
[08:03] <o0Chris0o> like !anyone
[08:03] <MikeCulver> Can I store encryption keys used for full disk encryption on a USB drive?  Would the USB drive need to remain connected for the whole time the system was on?
[08:04] <nikoboy> hello,i just update to hardy, and everything work fine. but my fn functions does not work at all as it did on gutsy :(
[08:04] <nikoboy> anyone having this problem/
[08:04] <Chrysalis> anyone know if its possible to build your own install CD with sata drivers in it instead of having to use a floppy for the sata drivers?
[08:04] <Pegasos989> Heya. I'm going to buy a new desk computer in a few days (custom built naturally) and was just wondering if there are any Ubuntu/Linux related driver issues. Such as any specific brands to avoid or favor in graphics card, sound card, etc.
[08:04] <jobless> !ati
[08:05] <buntu> HELLO GUYS HOW TO USE BUILD-essential
[08:05] <White^Knight> nikoboy: have u looked at ur shortcut key setups yet?
[08:05] <fbthpg> pegasos, also check wireless cards
[08:05] <nikoboy> no
[08:05] <nikoboy> where is that?
[08:05] <Flannel> buntu: What are you trying to do?
[08:05] <wols_> buntu: you can't, build essential is a meta package
[08:05] <wols_> Pegasos989: intel or amd?
[08:05] <Bodsda> buntu, build-essential is a packagge including usefull things for building from source,. you dont 'use' build-essential
[08:05] <White^Knight> nikoboy: i run kde, so for me it is in the System Settings
[08:06] <wols_> White^Knight: glxinfo
[08:06] <buntu> Bodsda: so i have to use check install?
[08:06] <yit41> why is my amarok doesnt produce any sound after i played something from youtube?
[08:06] <wols_> White^Knight: also: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[08:06] <LSD|Ninja> Pegasos989: For video, nVidia is probably the still the best choice right now. As for sound, integrated audio on most boards is well supported. For wireless, Atheros=based cards are probably the best bet. And for motherboards/chipsets, Intel is usually the safe bet. Just watch out for the secodary PATA controllers on modern Intel-based boards, go SATA if you can
[08:06] <Bodsda> buntu, what are you trying to do?
[08:06] <nikoboy> ok im in
[08:06] <Flannel> buntu: build-essential is used during checkinstall, and yes, checkinstall is the recommended method
[08:06] <nikoboy> on shortcut key setups
[08:06] <buntu> Bodsda: installing the software
[08:06] <Bodsda> yit41, dunno -- run it from terminal to check for errors though
[08:06] <wols_> buntu: which software exactly?
[08:06] <nikoboy> how do I add fn functions then?
[08:07] <buntu> Flannel: how to use the checkinstall
[08:07] <Pegasos989> wols_: haven't quite decided yet. I know little about hardware so I concidered to just walking into shop and telling them about what kind of a computer (price, use, etc.) I want and let them help with the details. As such, it would be useful to know beforehand of any major issues...
[08:07] <Flannel> !checkinstall | buntu
[08:07] <yit41> Bodsda: how do i run it from terminal?
[08:07] <Bodsda> buntu, install software with apt or synaptic -- building from source is a different matter, what EXACTLY are you try to do?
[08:07] <White^Knight> wols_: u want those as separate posts, or added onto the one i already have?
[08:07] <Bodsda> yit41, i'd assume     amarok
[08:07] <eXtigy> What is the difference between the aptitude and apt-get?
[08:07] <Pegasos989> LSD|Ninja: thanks
[08:07] <White^Knight> eXtigy: looks
[08:08] <Bodsda> Flannel, so it just adds it to synaptic for easy removal? check install
[08:08] <montpelie> but dd
[08:08] <White^Knight> eXtigy: aptitude uses get-apt as it's front end ;)
[08:08] <montpelie> if and of
[08:08] <wols_> Pegasos989: get a intel cpu, intel P35 chipset, nvidia vid
[08:08] <Flannel> Bodsda: Yeah, it creates a deb package so you can remove it later
[08:08] <Bodsda> eXtigy, not much
[08:08] <montpelie> dont work that way ah
[08:08] <Flannel> White^Knight: that's not true, almost backwards, but not quite
[08:08] <buntu> Bodsda: i am now at the directory and there are option what should i do first the configure or the install?
[08:08] <Bodsda> Flannel, but you can just delete the source ?? isnt that just as easy?
[08:09] <Bodsda> buntu, ./configure              make           sudo check install
[08:09] <Flannel> Bodsda: deleting the source won't remove the compiled stuff
[08:09] <White^Knight> well, i know one uses the other :D
[08:09] <montpelie> hey checkinstall, what is that for
[08:09] <White^Knight> i may be confused tho :)
[08:09] <nikoboy> WhiteKnight there is no help for me on the shortcuts.. what i mean is that all the fn functions.. on the top of my laptop keyboard use to work before.. a lot of important functions as my screen light
[08:09] <eXtigy> White^Knight: And Synaptic, Update Manager, Add/Remove Programs??
[08:09] <montpelie> is it for creating deb packages
[08:09] <montpelie> ???
[08:09] <Bodsda> Flannel, ah,. thats where my knowledge is lacking -- cheers was tryin to work out why makin it a deb was usefull -- cheers dude
[08:09] <Flannel> White^Knight: no, they both use a common underlying library, neither uses the other
[08:09] <nikoboy> i wonder how can I turn on the fn functions since this are very important for me
[08:09] <whuut> please someone help me, i installed vista and now i can boot ubuntu, how do you fix this? i'm on ubuntu live cd now
[08:10] <Bodsda> whuut, do you mean 'cant' boot?
[08:10] <montpelie> using grub
[08:10] <montpelie> whuut
[08:10] <montpelie> resintalling it
[08:10] <montpelie> grub
[08:10] <buntu> Bodsda: theres and error "configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries"
[08:10] <whuut> sorry typo: i installed vista and now i cant boot ubuntu, how do you fix this? i'm on ubuntu live cd now
[08:10] <Flannel> buntu: what are you trying to install?
[08:10] <montpelie> root (hd0, 0)
[08:10] <Bodsda> buntu, have you installed build-essential ?
[08:10] <Flannel> !grub | whuut, first link
[08:10] <hiz> whuut; http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Re-install_Grub_with_Live_CD
[08:11] <Bodsda> whuut, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768976
[08:11] <buntu> Bodsda:  yes
[08:11] <montpelie> setup hd0
[08:11] <montpelie> exit
[08:11] <montpelie> reboot
[08:11] <montpelie> and the boot loader will come up
[08:11] <dj_hamsta> im trying to log in remotely via SSH / putty and open ssh but unable to does not allow password but when i log in via local lan (with my other pc) it takes the password
[08:11] <montpelie> whuut
[08:11] <Bodsda> montpelie, no it wont
[08:12] <eXtigy> Thanks..
[08:12] <montpelie> why not?
[08:12] <mudd`Hossam> hello, i am having difficuly finding the command that enables the auto-complete function in ubuntu server?
[08:12] <Flannel> dj_hamsta: Assuming you haven't changed any of the configuration stuffs, are you sure its the same machine?
[08:12] <void^> buntu: what are you trying to compile?
[08:12] <dj_hamsta> oh crap
[08:12] <mudd`Hossam> auto-complete as in i hit tab on the keyboard and it guesses the command dependent on the files in the folders
[08:12] <montpelie> installingwindows after linux doesnt modify the grub conf file
[08:13] <buntu> Bodsda: or my file is corrupt? is it possible?
[08:13] <Bodsda> montpelie, you have to set it to root on the correct partition,. after the line -- grub -- you do -- find /boot/grub/stage1            the output will be like hd(0,1)   then you do root hd(0,1) then the rest of your stuff
[08:13] <montpelie> oh I see, the windows partition should be appended to the conf file
[08:13] <Bodsda> buntu, sounds like build-essential isnt working -- make sure correct permissions apply on this folder aswell
[08:13] <dj_hamsta> hahaha!! thank you Flannel>
[08:13] <jobless> ok guys .. once more .. my gnome panels do not respond at least twice each day. I need to restart X to get them working. Can anybody help me debug this?
[08:13] <jobless> !x
[08:14] <montpelie> mmm ok
[08:14] <Flannel> buntu: What are you trying to install?
[08:14] <whuut> i used te command: find /boot/grub/stage1, the output is: (hd0,0), what do i type to root ( ) command?
[08:14] <montpelie> that worked for me
[08:14] <dj_hamsta> i just remembered i install SSH on my windows machine as well and DMZ is set to that one
[08:14] <wols_> White^Knight: since the drivers seem to work it's probably a GL library issue
[08:14] <White^Knight> wols_: ok here are those other two command outputs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12382/
[08:14] <Bodsda> whuut, type     root hd(0,0)
[08:14] <montpelie> the process I just mentioned
[08:14] <Flannel> mudd`Hossam: check your .bashrc
[08:14] <buntu> Bodsda: i use the synaptic to install the build-essential
[08:14] <wols_> Bodsda: build-essential is a metapackage, it has no files
[08:14] <ubud> !xsane
[08:14] <Bodsda> whuut, then       setup hd0             then exit            then reboot
[08:14] <mudd`Hossam> Flannel: is that in /home/?
[08:14] <White^Knight> wols_: ok
[08:14] <Flannel> mudd`Hossam: ~/.bashrc yes
[08:15] <Bodsda> wols_, metapackage=???
[08:15] <Flannel> !metapackage  | Bodsda
[08:15] <wols_> White^Knight: 3D works. maybe the screensaver itself is borked? tried other 3D apps? games maybe? tuxracer?
[08:15] <wols_> Bodsda: a package which only has other packages as dependencies and no files of its own
[08:15] <hccmb> i cant compile rt2570 module , any tips?
[08:15] <Bodsda> Flannel, so it pulls down a bunch of usefull stuff?
[08:15] <Flannel> Bodsda: yeah
[08:15] <Nomsky> morning
[08:15] <wols_> Bodsda: it only exists to draw in many other packages. ubuntu-desktop is another one
[08:16] <Bodsda> wols_, Flannel ,. ty for the explanation ;~)
[08:16] <White^Knight> i don't have any other but sune on my box, cuz i've been goin without the 3-D for so long, i didn't wanna waste the space if i couldn't use it
[08:16] <mudd`Hossam> Flannel: sicccccccc, thanks
[08:16] <wols_> hccmb: there are errors. which ones?
[08:16] <whuut> bodsda: thanks, i'm going to reboot now, i hope this works
[08:16] <Bodsda> !compile | hccmb
[08:16] <Bodsda> whuut, your welcome
[08:16] <hccmb> well, i get an kernel headers error, but have them installed
[08:16] <hccmb> 8.04
[08:16] <White^Knight> wols_: and right now, glxgears is runnin like a champ :)
[08:17] <wols_> what is the error and what does dpkg -l |grep kernel-header say?
[08:17] <nikoboy> hello. can someone help me with this problem.. i beg!!! I just upgrade to hardy, and there is a problem.. all the fn functions on my laptop keyboard are not responding! what is going on? everything use to work perfect on gutsy edition.. does anyone know how to fix this? my screen has maximum light now, and i cat make it lower without the fn functions.. is very stressful!
[08:17] <Bodsda> did anyone else get an accidentle *.17 server kernel download recently?
[08:17] <White^Knight> wols_: that didn't return any results
[08:18] <jobless> nikoboy try adding the brightness control applet to your panel
[08:18] <wols_> White^Knight: wasn't for you but for hccmb
[08:18] <nikoboy> how/
[08:18] <nikoboy> ?
[08:18] <White^Knight> wols_: oh :D
[08:18] <hccmb> wols , dpkg -l say nothing...
[08:18] <Bodsda> hccmb, you grepped it yeah?
[08:18] <wols_> hccmb: then you have no headers installed
[08:18] <hccmb> wols , yes
[08:18] <hccmb> strange
[08:19] <jobless> nikoboy it is just a work around .. right click on a panel and click add to panel. then select brightness applet from the list.
[08:19] <wols_> hccmb: apt-cache search kernel-header
[08:19] <hccmb>  sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.24-16-generic
[08:19] <hccmb> this is what i did to install
[08:19] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: i tried booting with window XP cd, and doing fdisk /mbr again ... only to find it missing
[08:19] <Jburrke> Anyone know any bad ass free fps's for linux?
[08:19] <Bodsda> hccmb, those arent the headers -- not sure if it has deps though
[08:19] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: fdisk simply isnt there, i dont know why
[08:19] <Jburrke> I've seen a few, but most are alienish stuff
[08:19] <wols_> hccmb: those aren't headers
[08:19] <Jburrke> I mean like, army stuff XD
[08:20] <djemscheed> jburrke: nexuiz
[08:20] <Bodsda> !ohmy | Jburrke
[08:20] <nikoboy> ok. first step please. lets go slow please.. 1.  Just looking for something a bit more armyish..
[08:20] <hccmb> but still it does not compile, i used module-assistant too
[08:20] <wols_> hccmb: you also might need build-essential, module-assistant
[08:21] <hccmb> same thing
[08:21] <wols_> hccmb: it gives you errors
[08:21] <hccmb> yes , say's cant find the headers
[08:21] <Jburrke> djemscheed: I saw a list of the top 25 games for linux, and a few of the fps's were army style (urban terror & one other) but i couldnt find a d/l off their site =/
[08:21] <Bodsda> !ot | Jburrke
[08:21] <hccmb> this is the error Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could   ▒
[08:22] <hccmb>      │ not be found                                                       ▒
[08:22] <hccmb>      │ and you did not specify other valid kernel headers to use
[08:22] <jobless> nikoboy .. right click on any panel .. and click add to panel .. then select brightness applet from the list of available applets ..
[08:22] <Jburrke> Lol
[08:22] <Bodsda> !paste | hccmb
[08:22] <Bodsda> !lol | Jburrke
[08:22] <wols_> hccmb: dpkg -l |grep 2.6.24
[08:22] <Jburrke> Bodsda: lmfao dood chill out man >>
[08:22] <nikoboy> jobless i did and is not working at all.. not even a bit.. and anyway, what i want its my fn function again.. as it was working on gutsy :S
[08:22] <djemscheed> jburrke: linux is pretty weak on games, but you can always use wine to run windows games (which are, of course, mostly non-free)
[08:22] <Andycas> How to make hddtemp work without sudo? sensor-applet reads its data just fine - how come???
[08:23] <wols_> Andycas: run it suid root
[08:23] <GibbaTheHutt> there's a few like americas army which has native linux support iirc as an army game
[08:23] <Jburrke> djemscheed: yeah.. "not free"
[08:23] <Jburrke> djemscheed: ;D
[08:23] <Bodsda> Jburrke, acronyms apply to the !ohmy -- plz keep it on topic -- there is a lot of noise in here, dont add to it with non-tech/tech support questions
[08:23] <GibbaTheHutt> enemy territory
[08:23] <hccmb> wols http://pastebin.com/m7848b236
[08:23] <Andycas> wols_: No i cant, i want hddtemp to work with conky
[08:23] <Jburrke> GibbaTheHutt: I couldnt find a download for that.. I think i looked
[08:23] <Bodsda> GibbaTheHutt, America's army no longer has linux support -- only an out of date download
[08:23] <GibbaTheHutt> Jburrke, for which one ?
[08:23] <jobless> nikoboy .. what is not working? Don't you see a bulb like thing on your panel (top panel or bottom panel, which ever panel you added the applet to)
[08:24] <nikoboy> Jobleess the brightness applet is not working at all, not even a bit.. im almost blind now.. the brightness is on maximun state. i wonder what in the world its going on with this new ubuntu version
[08:24] <Jburrke> GibbaTheHutt: ET
[08:24] <rabspd> Hi
[08:24] <Bodsda> hi
[08:24] <oddalot> does anyone know a smtp free mail server that doesn't use SSL?
[08:24] <nikoboy> yes i see it
[08:24] <nikoboy> and is not working
[08:24] <nikoboy> its has a form of start
[08:24] <wols_> hccmb: your current running kernel is waht? (uname -a)
[08:24] <hccmb> wols : what i need is the rt2570.ko
[08:24] <wols_> oddalot: none does
[08:24] <GibbaTheHutt> http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/files/files.shtml for et
[08:25] <hccmb> Linux hccmb-mach5 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:25] <wols_> oddalot: most good ones can
[08:25] <DracoZA> Is there a way to check when the next version of a package will be added to the repositories ?
[08:25] <Jburrke> GibbaTheHutt: Oh nevermind, I have it on my desktop.. I just have no idea how to install it >>
[08:25] <jobless> nikoboy .. can you see a slider when you click on the applet? Does adjusting the slider not change the brightness?
[08:25] <oddalot> wols_ crap, how am i supposed to use this actionmailer
[08:25] <wols_> DracoZA: when the next version of ubuntu comes out. approx in half a year
[08:25] <GibbaTheHutt> Jburrke, whats the file extension ?
[08:25] <nikoboy> oh wait. but my brightness panel has on the middle an "ANTI" symbol
[08:25] <nikoboy> red one
[08:25] <nikoboy> how can i turn it on
[08:25] <DracoZA> wols_, not the next version of Ubuntu :) the next version of a package
[08:26] <wols_> oddalot: as I said: all (good) SMTP servers don't use SSL by default
[08:26] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: fdisk is missing from the xp cd?
[08:26] <Andycas> Is there a way to make hddtemp work with conky? hddtemp needs sudo
[08:26] <Bodsda> DracoZA, repo's get updated every release
[08:26] <Jburrke> GibbaTheHutt: Ever heard of urban terrror? Oo
[08:26] <GibbaTheHutt> yep, I used to play it
[08:26] <wols_> DracoZA: and the next version of a apckage only gets in when a new ubuntu version comes out
[08:26] <nikoboy> yes i can see the slider jobless and is not working.. but this is cause the panel has an red 'ANTI' symbol
[08:26] <oddalot> wols_ oh i thought you meant it the other way around
[08:26] <ubud> !xsane
[08:26] <nikoboy> i dont now how to turn on the panel
[08:26] <nikoboy> its off now
[08:26] <hccmb> wols : Linux hccmb-mach5 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:26] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: yes apparently
[08:26] <wols_> hccmb: you have the proper headers installed
[08:26] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: did you try installing grub again?
[08:26] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: I did HELP and it gave me no option for fdisk
[08:27] <Bodsda> !ot | Jburrke, GibbaTheHutt, Games are not support unless your having problems with them caused by Ubuntu. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:27] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: how?
[08:27] <DracoZA> Bodsda,  ok let me clarify some more, virtual box 1.6.0 is available for download from their site bit version 1.5.6 is still listed in the repos, how can I find out when 1.6.0 will be in the repos ?
[08:27] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: I have attempted installing grub many times from the Live CD
[08:27] <Jburrke> Wow.. lmfao
[08:27] <hccmb> wols : so i am stuck there..cant compile the rt2570 wireless drivers
[08:27] <Super400> HI all
[08:27] <Kazuma> and none have worked so far
[08:27] <wols_> DracoZA: for the LAST time: when a new ubuntu comes out. NOT before
[08:27] <jobless> nikoboy .. it should be on by default .. try  xgamma -gamma 0.75 in a terminal
[08:27] <Bodsda> DracoZA, if it is deemed safe by the ubuntu devs then it will be added upon the release of intrepid
[08:27] <wols_> hccmb: m-a prepare
[08:27] <MikeCulver> wols_: how do you properly install grub?
[08:27] <Jburrke> GibbaTheHutt: Are you in the off topic channel?
[08:27] <jobless> maybe that can reduce your brightness
[08:28] <DracoZA> wols_, get some sleep :)
[08:28] <wols_> MikeCulver: several ways, by running grub as root, with grub-install, etc
[08:28] <DracoZA> Bodsda, ok thanks
[08:28] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: I tried grub, grub-install, update-grub
[08:28] <Kazuma> all those have failed so far
[08:28] <^ALEX^^> good evenng y'all
[08:28] <hccmb> wols : say's all is okey,
[08:28] <Bodsda> DracoZA, no probs -- in some cases you can add repositories of third party files yourself -- but this is your risk
[08:28] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: did the installs themselves fail?
[08:28] <hccmb> but still the error when compiling
[08:28] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: no, it said they succeeded
[08:29] <wols_> Kazuma: you need to install grub to hd1 and make sure your device.map is alright
[08:29] <a_ok> what is the variable $OPTIONS in the initscripts?
[08:29] <Kazuma> but upon reboot, nada
[08:29] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: I agree with wols
[08:29] <nikoboy> jobless: http://pastebin.com/m6426deb1
[08:29] <hccmb> wols : are you running 8.04?
[08:29] <Kazuma> wols_: : would appreciate knowing how to do that
[08:29] <DracoZA> Bodsda, nod but I prefer to install only from the normal repos otherwise I just end up breaking things
[08:29] <MikeCulver> Kazuma: /boot/grub/device.map
[08:29] <Bodsda> DracoZA, fair comment ;~)
[08:30] <a_ok> sorry i mean ...OPTS
[08:30] <Kazuma> MikeCulver: edited that a thousand times, it shows correctly
[08:30] <therealduckie> .
[08:30] <wols_> hccmb: I don#t run ubuntu
[08:30] <MrPocknix> hey, I've got a shared folder on my XP Pro box, hwo do i find that via Ubuntu macine over the lan?
[08:30] <MrPocknix> hey, I've got a shared folder on my XP Pro box, how do i find that via Ubuntu macine over the lan?
[08:30] <Bodsda> !samba
[08:30] <MrPocknix> thanks
[08:30] <wols_> Kazuma: what did you enter in grub?
[08:30] <Bodsda> no probs
[08:30] <MrPocknix> theres no way to do it without samba?
[08:30] <Kazuma> wols: root (hd1,0) setup (hd0)
[08:30] <wols_> Kazuma: setup  and what then?
[08:30] <ReVisions> intel x3100 sould give me 900 fps on glxgears or more?
[08:30] <a_ok> or better yet where the hell do i find any of these variable definitions
[08:31] <jobless> nikoboy .. try xgamma -gamma 0.7
[08:31] <wols_> MrPocknix: smbclient -L <ip>
[08:31] <Bodsda> MrPocknix, there are but samba is by far the easiest i hear
[08:31] <Bodsda> a_ok, you may have luck asking in #ubuntu-devs
[08:31] <nikoboy> Jobless i got this: bash: try: command not found
[08:31] <wols_> Bodsda: what others are there? there is samba/sambafs and nothing else
[08:32] <Bodsda> wols_, you can acces files through vnc
[08:32] <wols_> well, smbfs/cifs
[08:32] <wols_> Bodsda: not network shares
[08:32] <jobless> nikoboy type this .. "xgamma -gamma 0.75" .. without the quotes
[08:32] <jobless> nikoboy type this .. "xgamma -gamma 0.7" .. without the quotes if the previous one does not work ..
[08:32] <nikoboy> sorry i type it incorrectly this is what i got:
[08:32] <nikoboy> -> Red  1.000, Green  1.000, Blue  1.000
[08:32] <nikoboy> <- Red  0.700, Green  0.700, Blue  0.700
[08:32] <Bodsda> wols_, dunno tbh
[08:32] <MikeCulver> wols_: doesn't grub inherently see the drive it's on as hd0?
[08:33] <White^Knight> well, i'm gonna go to bed and try to get some sleep... been a rough day for me
[08:33] <Bodsda> night
[08:33] <White^Knight> g' nite all :)
[08:33] <wols_> MikeCulver: no. first BIOS drive is hd0
[08:33] <jobless> nikoboy .. did that help changing your brightness?
[08:33] <jobless> !xgamma
[08:33] <hccmb> wols : building it with cvs works now
[08:34] <wols_> hccmb: read m-a docs and check to to set include folder for kernel headers manually
[08:34] <wols_> hccmb: good
[08:34] <nikoboy> jobless, it didnt
[08:34] <MrPocknix> man
[08:34] <MrPocknix> yeah
[08:35] <MikeCulver> wols_: so wait... in this situation, his /boot is not on the same drive as grub...
[08:35] <MikeCulver> wols_: would that mess up grub?
[08:35] <Bodsda> possibly
[08:35] <generic> now i want to limit users only finance can print from finance and IT from IT
[08:35] <generic>  whats the solution
[08:35] <wols_> MikeCulver: it is
[08:35] <jobless> sorry nikoboy .. this all i can point you to .. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-497065.html
[08:35] <wols_> stage1 is on hd0 everything else is on hd1
[08:35] <Bodsda> generic, change group permissions from read write to just read to the groups respectively
[08:36] <generic> where
[08:36] <generic> ?
[08:36] <generic> all are system users
[08:36] <generic> they log on lTSPO server basicaly
[08:36] <nikoboy> ok jobless thanks for your help
[08:36] <nikoboy> anyway
[08:36] <rhyda1> hello
[08:37] <MikeCulver> hi, rhyda1
[08:37] <jobless> nikoboy .. try searching for it using your laptop model number .. somebody must have had the same problem .. don't forget to check if it is a problem with your graphics card. Make sure you have the proper drivers installed .. good luck
[08:37] <roxygirl> anyone know how to enter spaces in command terminal, of folders (ie. PHONE CARD)?
[08:37] <roxygirl> backslash \ or somethin?
[08:37] <nikoboy> oh can you help me to move my panel as it was before i dont know what i did.. that now my shutdown bottom and everything move slightly to the left.. and the deskbar applet move all the way to the right
[08:37] <Andycas> what filetype should i use to save a shell script to start up a program?
[08:37] <rhyda1> trying out a command line IRC, anyone know how to set up and use bitchx?
[08:37] <nikoboy> where the shutdown panel use to be
[08:38] <jobless> backslash \
[08:38] <Bodsda> roxygirl, rap the word in "s p a c e s"
[08:38] <Bodsda> roxygirl, rap in quotes
[08:38] <backslash> hey folks stop sayin my name xD
[08:38] <Bodsda> backslash, thats prob not a good name to pick then ;~)
[08:38] <wols_> Andycas: it needs to be exectuable that's all. there are no "filetypes", only mime types
[08:39] <Andycas> wols_: so i dont need to use name.sh? just name?
[08:39] <kasra> after upgrading from Gutsy to Hardy , I have some high(70-90%) cpu usage by gzip (I did not run gzip) for few times and I have to kill it myself.  whats the problem ?!
[08:39] <backslash> haha
[08:39] <wols_> Andycas: yes
[08:39] <roxygirl> Bodsda: cool.  that should work to enter into my fstab file too, right?
[08:39] <wols_> linux doesn't care about file extensions
[08:39] <Bodsda> Andycas, just name -- make sure it has a shebang and execute permissions
[08:39] <Andycas> wols_: doesnt want to work that way
[08:39] <generic> Bodsa
[08:39] <Bodsda> roxygirl, er dunno much about fstab im afraid
[08:39] <generic> u there
[08:39] <generic> Bodsda
[08:39] <Bodsda> no im not
[08:39] <generic> ?
[08:39] <Kazuma> MikeCulver and wols_ i tried doing setup (hd2) and (hd1)
[08:39] <roxygirl> Bodsda: alright, thanksthen
[08:39] <wols_> Andycas: I told you you have to set it executable. also: what's the first line of the program?
[08:39] <Bodsda> roxygirl, your welcome
[08:39] <Kazuma> so now it should be on all drives, lets see if any work
[08:39] <Kazuma> bbl
[08:39] <corinth> I want a window to remember the size it was when it closed, is this possible?
[08:40] <Andycas> wols_: first line is #!/bin/bash
[08:40] <jobless> nikoboy .. right click on the applets you want to move and click move .. then move your mouse and the applets should move whereever you want them to go.
[08:40] <nikoboy> jobless i cant
[08:40] <Bodsda> Andycas, thats ok now do      chmod +x /path/to.script/script
[08:40] <Andycas> wols_: i enabled execution now, ill try it out
[08:40] <nikoboy> there is not an option to moe
[08:40] <nikoboy> move
[08:40] <Bodsda> .=/
[08:41] <Bodsda> jobless, you will have to unlock some of them
[08:41] <jobless> nikoboy .. what do you get (options) when you right click on them ..
[08:41] <kasra> after upgrading from Gutsy to Hardy , I have some high(70-90%) cpu usage by gzip (I did not run gzip) for few times and I have to kill it myself.  any idea about root of problem ?
[08:42] <wols_> kasra: find out what program starts gzip
[08:42] <kasra> wols_: How ?
[08:42] <jobless> nikoboy .. Bodsda said  jobless, you will have to unlock some of them
[08:42] <nikoboy> you know what a lot of problems with hardy.. how can i get back to gutsy?
[08:42] <wols_> pstree for example
[08:42] <wols_> nikoboy: reinstall
[08:42] <nikoboy> aaah:s
[08:42] <kasra> wols_: I guess it's maybe related to log apps or something
[08:43] <jobless> nikoboy .. you can tell me if you are successful at that ;)
[08:43] <wols_> kasra: cronjob then
[08:43] <wols_> logrotate
[08:43] <kasra> wols_: cronjob is not active
[08:43] <Bodsda> !downgrade | nikoboy
[08:43] <European-African> hi, what version of envy should I install for 7.10?
[08:44] <Bodsda> European-African, whatever version is in the repo's
[08:44] <kasra> wols_: thanks for pstree ,
[08:44] <jobless> !problems
[08:44] <European-African> Bodsda: what can u get it fron the spm?
[08:44] <MikeCulver> European-African: I had poor luck with envy.. it didn't work to install the latest driver.  I ended up just letting updates do it a few weeks later
[08:44] <jobless> !ubottu
[08:44] <nikoboy> for example the networking panel.. i cant even delete that panel and reopen a new one to the right... i culd delete the quit panel and add a new one on the right.. but not the network and the battery life one.. this ones are on the middle... :S
[08:44] <nikoboy> this is crazy
[08:45] <Bodsda> !msgthebot | jobless
[08:45] <Bodsda> European-African, probably
[08:45] <MikeCulver> !inthishouseweobeythelawsofthermodynamics
[08:45] <lamalex> grub error 17
[08:45] <Bodsda> thermo dynamics?
[08:46] <jobless> thanks Bodsda ..
[08:46] <lamalex> anyone how to fix grub error 17?
[08:46] <MikeCulver> lamalex: you too?
[08:46] <MikeCulver> lamalex: we're working on it with another person too
[08:46] <Bodsda> jobless, your welcome (dunno what for though -- !find packagename    can be usefull aswell)
[08:46] <MikeCulver> lamalex: multi-disk system?
[08:46] <lamalex> MikeCulver:
[08:46] <lamalex> a
[08:46] <lamalex> MikeCulver: yes
[08:46] <European-African> Bodsda: when I search envy it does not find it, is it in a different repos?
[08:46] <lamalex> MikeCulver: 3, 2 sata 1 ide
[08:46] <wols_> !envy
[08:47] <MikeCulver> lamalex: slightly different
[08:47] <MikeCulver> lamalex: how is the bios handling your sata?
[08:47] <Bodsda> !info envyng
[08:47] <lamalex> MikeCulver: what do you mean
[08:47] <MikeCulver> lamalex: is the sata controller set up as RAID, IDE emulation, AHCI?
[08:48] <Madpilot> !info envy intrepid
[08:48] <European-African>  ubottu: so I should use something that may not work and is supported over something that works?
[08:48] <lamalex> It's not raided, as for the other two I have no idea. How would I tell that? I believe it's set up just treat them as IDE drives
[08:48] <wols_> MikeCulver: doesn't matter. grub uses always bios int13
[08:48] <baking> help, what I try to install some packges it saids that'Ubuntu-Server 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070415)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[08:48] <zorglu_> q. i would like to launch pigdin automatically on login, where should i look ?
[08:48] <rhydar__> hello
[08:48] <zEr0-x> can somebody help me please ?
[08:48] <Bodsda> MikeCulver, lamalex, have you seen this? -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[08:49] <lamalex> zorglu_: System > preferences > session
[08:49] <bazhang> European-African, it is envyng-gtk for gnome (-qt for kde)
[08:49] <Xcell> sessions
[08:49] <European-African> ok
[08:49] <zorglu_> lamalex, thanks looking
[08:49] <Bodsda> hey bazhang !!
[08:49] <MikeCulver> Bodsda: The answer to your question: yes.
[08:49] <Bodsda> MikeCulver, did it not help?
[08:49] <MikeCulver> Bodsda: not for the other guy
[08:49] <rhydar__> hello
[08:50] <Bodsda> MikeCulver, have you tried?
[08:50] <MikeCulver> lamalex: the problem is that grub can't see the drive it's supposed to to continue
[08:50] <MikeCulver> Bodsda: actually, yes
[08:50] <lamalex> MikeCulver: right, but I'm not sure how to fix it
[08:50] <Bodsda> MikeCulver, and....
[08:50] <MikeCulver> Bodsda: and in multiple different ways in hid case
[08:50] <MikeCulver> Bodsda: still error 17
[08:51] <Bodsda> MikeCulver, lamalex, can you please come to #ubuntuforums-beginners    for 'quieter' help
[08:51] <jobless> later everyone ..
[08:51] <Bodsda> bye
[08:52] <rhydar__> Anyone from South Africa here?
[08:52] <sykopomp> some shuttle guy here is, I think
[08:52] <sykopomp> shuttle-something
[08:52] <bazhang> rhydar__, you need something in the way of support or wish to chat
[08:53] <gordonjcp> sykopomp: something like that, yes
[08:53] <u007> hi, if i can't seems to kill -9 a application root access, what should i do?
[08:53] <gordonjcp> sykopomp: Mark Shuttlepilot, that's it
[08:53] <European-African> bazhang: I can find envy in spm under any name!
[08:53] <`KoRn> what application can i use in burning a dvd movie?
[08:53] <wols_> !dvd
[08:53] <bazhang> European-African, this is for hardy only
[08:53] <European-African> oh
[08:54] <European-African> not 7.10
[08:54] <European-African> does it work on 7.10?
[08:54] <rhydar__> Mark Shuttleworth ?
[08:54] <bazhang> European-African, restricted drivers manager for gutsy
[08:54] <bazhang> rhydar__, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:54] <European-African> does that give all the right drivers?
[08:55] <bazhang> European-African, have you used it yet
[08:55] <rhydar__> Fair enough bazhang, actually looking for some info on command line irc clients?
[08:55] <European-African> do the job aswell as envy
[08:55] <European-African> no
[08:55] <wols_> rhydar__: irssi
[08:55] <bazhang> irssi rhydar__
[08:55] <lamalex> MikeCulver: ? any ideas
[08:55] <Myrtti> rhydar__: irssi ♥
[08:55] <lamalex> rhydar__: +1
[08:55] <willwork4foo> hi - does anyone have any idea about building netatalk with ssl support? I've been following the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347019 and when I get to the stage where I compile netatatalk with the ssl options, the build fails with the following error: gpg: skipped "Jonas Smedegaard<EMAIL_ADDRESS>secret key not available
[08:55] <willwork4foo> gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[08:56] <rhydar__> irssi ? good?
[08:56] <MrPocknix> command to transfer a folder from directory A to directory B ?
[08:56] <willwork4foo> MrPocknix: mv
[08:56] <MikeCulver> lamalex: yes.. in another room
[08:56] <wols_> willwork4foo: create a gpg guide for this email address then
[08:56] <Xcell> European-African:  google ( envy ubuntu 7.10)
[08:56] <bazhang> !best | rhydar__
[08:56] <MikeCulver> lamalex: #ubuntuforums-beginners
[08:56] <MrPocknix> thanks man
[08:56] <Kasra_ubuntu> hello every body!
[08:56] <willwork4foo> wols_: ???
[08:57] <wols_> European-African: if you use envy with ubuntu 7.10 no one will help you, from then on you are on your own
[08:57] <European-African> bazhang: does restricted drivers manager do a better job than envy or the same?
[08:57] <willwork4foo> that's not my email address - I've never seen it before
[08:57] <wols_> European-African: envy is not supported at all
[08:57] <bazhang> European-African, envy in gutsy is not supported here
[08:57] <wols_> willwork4foo: then check where it'S metnioned in the files and change it
[08:57] <Kasra_ubuntu> can anyone helo me to make an ad-hoc wireless network?
[08:57] <Kasra_ubuntu> *help
[08:57] <European-African> ok, thanx
[08:58] <Kasra_ubuntu> :-(
[08:58] <willwork4foo> wols_: how on earth do I do that? I'd need to go through all the source code files and grep them individually?
[08:58] <rhydar__> Ok, another question, looking to set up Mailx, two console windows on boot, using Fluxbox?
[08:58] <afief> Kasra_ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[08:59] <wols_> willwork4foo: grep -r is your friend
[08:59] <Kasra_ubuntu> afief: Ok!I have rad that but it can't solve my problem!
[08:59] <European-African> bazhang: restricted drivers manager, will it install nvidia 8500 gt so it will be utilized fully?
[08:59] <Kasra_ubuntu> *read
[09:00] <xkcd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick <-- When I follow these instructons with a 4 GB USB drive and Ubuntu 8.04, I just get "operating system not found" when booting from the thumb drive.  I formatted the thumbdrive with fat16, and I've booted from bootable USB drives on this machine before.
[09:00] <Kasra_ubuntu> afief: I want to connect my laptop to my PC with wifi!
[09:00] <bazhang> European-African, it should do; dont have that card so cannot say from personal experience
[09:00] <xkcd> Is there anything that's changed with 8.04 that would make those instructions invalid?
[09:00] <MrPocknix> command to rename folder?
[09:00] <afief> Kasra_ubuntu, I can't help you... no wifi here to try and I never did it
[09:01] <Kasra_ubuntu> afief: Ok!thx
[09:01] <Kasra_ubuntu> ;-)
[09:01] <rhydar__> mv folder_name new_folder_name
[09:01] <MrPocknix> thank
[09:01] <LSD|Ninja> Kasra_ubuntu: what wifi cards are in each machine and are you using an access point/router?
[09:01] <Bodsda> lamalex, do you want help with the grub error ?
[09:01] <European-African> bazhang: how do I use the tv out on the card, does rdm install a utility to do this?
[09:01] <rhydar__> -r recursive might be needed.
[09:01] <LSD|Ninja> European-African: The control panel is a seperate install iirc, look in synaptic for it
[09:01] <Kasra_ubuntu> LSD|Ninja: my PC has broadcom and my laptop has a PCMSIA Cisco Wireless card!
[09:02] <MikeCulver> lamalex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652&highlight=grub+restore+howto
[09:02] <Hiruma> a
[09:02] <LSD|Ninja> Broadcom :/
[09:02] <Kasra_ubuntu> LSD|Ninja: No I'm not use a router!
[09:02] <European-African> LSD|Ninja: ok
[09:02] <Kasra_ubuntu> LSD|Ninja: ;-)
[09:02] <wols_> Kasra_ubuntu: cisco makes no wlan chips
[09:02] <willwork4foo> thanks wols_ !
[09:02] <Bodsda> lamalex, you still alive???
[09:02] <dordar> hello
[09:02] <dordar> i need some help
[09:02] <Kasra_ubuntu> wols_: Are you sure?
[09:02] <dordar> i'm new to ubuntu
[09:03] <wols_> Kasra_ubuntu: pretty much. see lspci or lsusb
[09:03] <dordar> and I downloaded it from wubi last night
[09:03] <Bodsda> dordar, just go ahead and ask your question ;~)
[09:03] <wols_> !enter | dordar
[09:03] <dpowerd> does anybody know about creating/producing chiptunes/sid ?
[09:03] <Kasra_ubuntu> wols_: Wait a momment!
[09:03] <Kasra_ubuntu> *moment
[09:03] <dordar> trouble connection on my wireless? i must use cable
[09:03] <wols_> dordar: what wlan chip?
[09:03] <dordar> how can i find that?
[09:03] <dordar> i'm really a newbie.
[09:03] <wols_> lspci/lsusb
[09:04] <rhydar__> dordar, are you using Ubuntu through wingdoze?
[09:04] <Bodsda> dordar, thats 2 commands            lspci           lsusb
[09:04] <lamalex> I'm going to try supergrub, wish me luck.
[09:05] <Bodsda> lamalex, wait -- i have a fix
[09:05] <lamalex> oo
[09:05] <lamalex> ok
[09:05] <Bodsda> lamalex, join this channel -- #ubuntuforums-beginners     its quieter there
[09:05] <boomshakalaka> anyone else have the problem where the screen grays out on active applications?
[09:06] <pvh_sa|wrk> boomshakalaka, yes
[09:06] <LSD|Ninja> boomshakalaka: that means the app has stopped responding
[09:06] <pvh_sa|wrk> boomshakalaka, its a compiz thing. any application which is "not responding" gets greyed out. often this means your computer can't keep up...
[09:06] <LSD|Ninja> boomshakalaka: sometimes it'll come good, sometimes you have to Force Quit
[09:06] <nikoboy> hello
[09:06] <Kasra_ubuntu> nikoboy: Hi
[09:07] <Chapai> is there an option in sshd_config that allows only public keys and not passwords?
[09:07] <nikoboy> my problem is resolve now.. when i boot i have to option.. i select the
[09:07] <nikoboy> the lower kernel and everything back
[09:07] <nikoboy> to normallity
[09:07] <boomshakalaka> this has to be a bug then because my computer keeps up fine
[09:07] <nikoboy> i wonder why
[09:07] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, I'm trying to setup nvidia binary drivers on Hardy. I've been doing this unsucessfully for the whole week. I've used envyng, apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and still no luck. My next move is to install using the nvidia installer but I don;t really want to do the. Any ideas how to do this?
[09:07] <mgolisch> Chapai: PasswordAuthentication no
[09:07] <mgolisch> i guess
[09:08] <boomshakalaka> pvh_sa|wrk: this happens with apps that are still working
[09:08] <Darth_Gimp> in hardy, how do I set up the 3d cube display?
[09:08] <linsejko> Can anyone help me install this tarball? It has no config file, among other weird qualities... it's technically a 'unix' install, but I assume that means all unix systems. Link: http://foundationstone.com.au/HtmlSupport/FrameSupport/registerCGIFrame.html
[09:08] <DracoZA> Why do I get this message when I try and share a folder ?: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[09:08] <Chapai> you need to install compiz Darth_Gimp
[09:08] <cypha> i'm having lots of trouble setting up ubuntu to work properly
[09:08] <cypha> someone mind helping a newb?
[09:08] <Darth_Gimp> ok
[09:08] <Darth_Gimp> synaptic yes?
[09:08] <Chapai> mgolisch:- i have been looking through the option, cant believe i did not see it
[09:09] <CAH> he...
[09:09] <rhydar__> Crummy, I think that you need to log in to the terminal first. X windows needs to be stopped before installing video driver
[09:09] <linsejko> Can anyone help me install an odd tarball that I can't seem to get working?
[09:09] <cypha> i just installed some nvidia driver glx-new or whatever, and it asked me to restart
[09:09] <DracoZA> whats the problem cypha ?
[09:09] <cypha> so i restarted, and now my resolution is all messed up
[09:09] <Chapai> yes, Darth_Gimp
[09:09] <CAH> hhhhhh
[09:09] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: that sounds kind of wierd is this a known bug?
[09:09] <mgolisch> linsejko: doesnt it have a readme or install text file?
[09:09] <Darth_Gimp> Chapai: it says its already installed
[09:09] <CrummyGummy> Well it doesn't start xserver at all.
[09:09] <linsejko> No, that's the weird thing.
[09:09] <cypha> ...i had selected to use some animation or something in the Appearance settings of ubuntu
[09:09] <mgolisch> linsejko: i dont want to download stuff one has to register for
[09:09] <linsejko> mgolisch,
[09:10] <cypha> so it downloaded/installed some driver
[09:10] <fanch_> hi
[09:10] <dda> if I install firefox3 in gutsy (using apt-get install firefox-3.0) - will it keep firefox2?
[09:10] <linsejko> Use my email,
[09:10] <linsejko> it allows using the same email twice.
[09:10] <pvh_sa|wrk> boomshakalaka, yes they will be "still working".. do they go grey for a while and then "un-grey" ?
[09:10] <linsejko> msolisch, using lacking.latin[(a_t)]gmail.com
[09:10] <Chapai> are you using gnome or kde Darth_Gimp
[09:10] <LSD|Ninja> boomshakalaka: It's a timeout-based thing, if an app doesn't appear to be responding within a certain time period compiz will make them grey. As soon as they start responding again, they'll get restored
[09:10] <Darth_Gimp> Chapai: Gnome
[09:10] <boomshakalaka> pvh_sa|wrk: they will grey out....keep working and finish but not ungrey
[09:10] <pvh_sa|wrk> boomshakalaka, you might want to run "vmstat 1" in a terminal window to keep an eye on what apps are blocking for...
[09:11] <fanch_> i'm trying to burn a cd with brasero but it doesn't work... it says that i need to use a blank cd (which i actually did...)
[09:11] <fanch_> anyone has an idea?
[09:11] <pvh_sa|wrk> boomshakalaka, so look at the 1st colum. that's waiting for cpu. the 2nd column is waiting for I/O...
[09:11] <Chapai> do you have extra visual effects enabled Darth_Gimp
[09:11] <Darth_Gimp> Chapai: yes
[09:12] <LSD|Ninja> If they aren't un-greying when teh apps starts responding again then that is a proble, yes
[09:12] <linsejko> mgolisch, does that mean it's ano?
[09:12] <cypha> can someone help me fix my resolution??
[09:12] <cypha> please
[09:12] <bazhang> cypha which card
[09:12] <freshkangkong> hello room
[09:12] <cypha> the proper resolution option isn't available in "Screen Resolution"
[09:12] <cypha> nvidia
[09:12] <mgolisch> linsejko: ill look at it,moment
[09:13] <bazhang> !nvidia | cypha
[09:13] <linsejko> mgolisch, thanks.
[09:13] <cypha> i just downloaded the drivers, because i tried enabling the "medium effects" for appearance
[09:13] <cypha> and it downloaded nvidia-glx
[09:13] <MatBoy> does autoremove can usethe option --purge ?
[09:13] <Chapai> click system preference and click advance desktop effects...... Darth_Gimp
[09:13] <LSD|Ninja> cypha: The Screen Resolution panel in the preferences section of the System menu is worse than useless. 7.10 had a nice one with more options but it's been dropped from the look of things.
[09:13] <Darth_Gimp> sweet thanks!
[09:13] <Darth_Gimp> brb
[09:13] <cypha> LSD|Ninja: why would they do taht?
[09:14] <DracoZA> cypha maybe enable nvidia restricted drivers ? System - Administration - Hardware Drivers ?
[09:14] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: the screen grays for the password while opening synaptic...then it's like it doesn't refresh the screen while it's working
[09:14] <cypha> yes
[09:14] <LSD|Ninja> boomshakalaka: you mean it greys *around* the password window? That's normal
[09:14] <cypha> i did that dracoZA
[09:14] <CrummyGummy> DracoZA: Do you know what the direct link for that is?
[09:14] <LSD|Ninja> cypha: I dunno, it's one of many things that annoy me about 8.04
[09:14] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: yes but then it doesn't refresh after while synaptic runs
[09:15] <cypha> shoot, i can't even scroll since i updated the nvidia driver
[09:15] <cypha> what gives
[09:15] <fanch_> I can't join ubuntu-fr... anyone knows why ?
[09:15] <LSD|Ninja> boomshakalaka: so after you enter the password, synaptic runs normally but the screen doesn't brighten back up again?
[09:15] <bazhang> fanch /j #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <DracoZA> cypha and its ticked as enabled ?
[09:15] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: yes
[09:16] <fanch_> bazhang: that's what i did (several times) but nothing happens
[09:16] <yrjokin> hi there - does anyone know if Gutsy has support for Lexmark (all in one) please
[09:16] <linsejko> mgolisch, just letting you know I'm still here.
[09:16] <cypha> is what ticked as enabled?
[09:16] <cypha> draco
[09:16] <bazhang> fanch then /j #ubuntu-irc
[09:16] <Chapai> youtube does not accept ogg videos, what is a good converter?
[09:16] <Gin> flash 10 rocks. I recommend every one to try it out. it cuts the cpu usage from 70% to 20% :-)
[09:17] <DracoZA> cypha under hardware drivers do you have nvidia listed ?
[09:17] <leonbrussels> yrjokin: You can google <yourmodilnumber> ubuntu
[09:17] <mgolisch> linsejko: i guess you just extract that thing somewhere and start foundationStone.sh
[09:17] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: the screen will whiten back if I open firefox full screen
[09:17] <yrjokin> leonbrussels: ok
[09:17] <linsejko> mgolisch, I tried that.
[09:17] <linsejko> :\
[09:17] <cypha> where can i see the hardware drivers list?
[09:17] <fanch_> bazhang: apparently i've been banned from that channel, according to server information
[09:18] <fanch_> but i don't know why
[09:18] <cypha> oh
[09:18] <cypha> i see it
[09:18] <cypha> yes
[09:18] <cypha> it's there
[09:18] <FloodBot2> cypha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <mgolisch> linsejko: and? what error do you get?
[09:18] <bazhang> fanch then join the channel #ubuntu-irc
[09:18] <fanch_> I never said or did anything there...
[09:18] <cypha> "nvidia accelerated graphics driver (latest cards)"
[09:18] <linsejko> mgolisch, pwd is /home/kajo/Desktop/tars/FoundationStone_3.0_Unix
[09:18] <linsejko> ./foundationStone.sh: line 22: java: command not found
[09:18] <fanch_> ok, thanks bazhang
[09:18] <LSD|Ninja> cypha: there used to be a hardware list applet too. That also got dropped but I'm less anoyed with that since it was pretty shicking anyway.
[09:19] <mgolisch> linsejko: you need to install a java runtime environment
[09:19] <cypha> it's a proprietary driver
[09:19] <MrPocknix_> man I still cant access my windows shared folder in Ubuntu
[09:19] <mgolisch> linsejko: the sun jre might be best
[09:20] <cypha> LSD|Ninja, DracoZA, any idea what i should do?
[09:20] <linsejko> mgolisch, does it look like it should work otherwise?
[09:20] <linsejko> Is that a particularly weird application setup, or is this normal just not as common?
[09:20] <mgolisch> linsejko: its written in java it wont work without a java runtime environemtn installed
[09:20] <babola1> im trying to /msg ubottu. he's not answering :(
[09:20] <mgolisch> just install the sun jre package
[09:21] <mgolisch> search in synamptic
[09:21] <mgolisch> synaptic
[09:21] <linsejko> mgolisch, I'm pretty sure I have a jre...
[09:21] <linsejko> and that it is sun.
[09:21] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: I'm also wondering how these apps could not be responding.  I'm not running anything intensive on this 2ghz machine with a gig of ram
[09:22] <Aku> xtc
[09:22] <linsejko> mgolisch, how do I tell if I have jre/ what do I do to install it?
[09:23] <babola1> linsejko: through synaptic. use the search function and see if the package's checkbox has green fill-up
[09:23] <Agnostic> Where could I download Fiesty Fawn?
[09:23] <cypha> okkk, i fixed my resolution
[09:23] <_eMaX_> hi all
[09:24] <LSD|Ninja> boomshakalaka: I think you're referring to a different effect. When an app is not responding, compiz will grey that app window and nothing else. The greying of teh background when it pops up a UAC - sorry - sudo prompt is something different. Either way, it should return to normal once it's not needed. Definitely sounds like a bug what you're having. Could be video-driver related, but I'm not sure
[09:24] <cypha> but my mouse still can't scroll
[09:24] <TOPSECRET> why cant ubuntu remember my WPA2 password like windows does
[09:24] <babola1> Agnostic: why would you want feisty?
[09:24] <luka_____> mi s-a sculat pula
[09:24] <MrPocknix_>  sudo mount //<IP_ADDRESS>/Tunez /media/ntmnt -o username=MrPockets,password=*****,
[09:24] <MrPocknix_> mount error 111 = Connection refused
[09:24] <MrPocknix_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
[09:24] <linsejko> mgolisch, I will, but I prefer using terminal normally.
[09:24] <bazhang> TOPSECRET, it can; what are you doing wrong
[09:24] <MrPocknix_> why would this happen ?
[09:24] <Agnostic> babola1, I am looking at the differences in OS.
[09:24] <_eMaX_> is there a way to improve the preview in nautilus - if I want to increase like the size of a preview of PDFs, I can hit Ctrl+, but it doesn't render it better, just zooms in
[09:24] <LSD|Ninja> TOPSECRET: it saves my WPA1 password, WPA2 shjouldn't be too much different. Are you remembering to tick the "Save in keychain" bix?
[09:24] <Agnostic> babola1, I am attempting to look at ubuntu from its earliest stages of development.
[09:24] <TOPSECRET> it changes the box to wpa1 and deletes the password
[09:24] <boomshakalaka> LSD|Ninja: ok thx
[09:25] <TOPSECRET> there is no save in keychain box
[09:25] <Wallgod> Hi All, Is there some way I can make an application in Ubuntu full screen? This was pretty straight forward in Kubuntu
[09:25] <rhydar__> Wallgod f11 usually works
[09:25] <TOPSECRET> i go into the network panel in configuration
[09:26] <TOPSECRET> *administration
[09:26] <babola1> Agnostic: oh. Google might help. just a tip, every release, there's a ReleaseNote. Check each one
[09:26] <Wallgod> rhydar__, isnt that only for firefox? for example it did not work in the XChat window
[09:26] <Agnostic> I was hoping someone in here would know where to get the earlier versions.
[09:26] <dppd> i want to update from 6.06 LTS to 8.04LTS. I followed the guidelines on the upgrade page but i dont get the question.... Any suggestions???
[09:27] <CrummyGummy> \q
[09:27] <babola1> Agnostic: you mean you want the actual installation files?
[09:27] <Frostex> Hi there, i am looking for somebody that can help me 1-1 set up samba, im having difficulty (and yes i have searched web guides first)
[09:27] <Agnostic> babola1, Yes. I want to install the early versions of ubuntu on my old system.
[09:27] <babola1> Agnostic:  here, then -->www.old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[09:27] <bazhang> Frostex, best place for that is #samba
[09:27] <LSD|Ninja> dppd: when a new release is available then update manager should tell you as much
[09:27] <Agnostic> babola1, Okay thank you.
[09:27] <Frostex> thanks baz
[09:28] <dppd> LSD|Ninja: It doesn't... ;-(
[09:28] <ari_stress> hi all, anyone knows a screenshot capture tool that can capture a screen with scroll down?
[09:28] <Agnostic> babola1, Thats exactly what I wanted. Thank you very much.
[09:28] <linsejko> mgolisch, downloading jre...
[09:28] <TOPSECRET> why cant ubuntu remember my WPA2 password like windows does
[09:28] <bazhang> !screencast | ari_stress
[09:28] <LSD|Ninja> TOPSECRET: you asked that like five minutes ago
[09:29] <Wallgod> How to make a app window like for eg. GEdit full screen in Ubuntu
[09:29] <bazhang> TOPSECRET, set it in the command line
[09:29] <TOPSECRET> then it would remember
[09:29] <TOPSECRET> ?
[09:29] <janMD> TOPSECRET: hidden SSID?
[09:29] <Patrick8> Am I correct in understanding that Debian's openssh vulnerability requires an attacker to first have a copy of a users public key ?
[09:29] <Agnostic> Anybody in here famaliar with DVDFab?
[09:29] <TOPSECRET> it is open SSID
[09:30] <bazhang> TOPSECRET, set in cli; it will be SET
[09:30] <TOPSECRET> i change SSID between home and work and school but it doesnt remember even when i dont change
[09:31] <cypha> i installed an nvidia driver, and when i restarted, i can no longer scroll
[09:31] <dppd> When i press Alt-F2 and type gksu "update-manager -d" nothing happens ;-(
[09:31] <bazhang> !upgrade | dppd
[09:32] <cypha> someone please help
[09:33] <cypha> how do i view xconfig?
[09:33] <bloops> Hello I can connect and disconnect using pon and poff but not networkmanager. I have ethernet/pppoe connection. Is it possible to do (dis)connect using NM?
[09:33] <dppd> bazhang: is it possible to upgrade from 6.06LTS to 8.04LTS Directly...???
[09:33] <bazhang> dppd did you read that link or not
[09:34] <dpowerd> cypha, /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <babola1> bloops: yes you can. it is also possible with Network Manager. What sort of problem do you have?
[09:34] <dpowerd> cypha, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <dpowerd> rather
[09:34] <bloops> I can however, tell whether the connection is active or not.
[09:34] <dppd> bazhang: looked at the page but did not spot 6.06 2 8.04....!
[09:34] <cypha> do i have to type something before it?
[09:34] <cypha> like sudo or something
[09:34] <dpowerd> you jsut want to view it?
[09:34] <dpowerd> or edit it?
[09:35] <babola1> bloops: in a terminal, do: plog
[09:35] <cypha> well, my mouse scroll isn't working
[09:35] <Chapai> if you want view it nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:35] <linsejko> mgolisch, it works, thanks. I feel silly for it just being that.
[09:35] <rhydar__> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:35] <cypha> it was just a few moments ago
[09:35] <bloops> There's a checkbox next to ppp connection in network manager. I have set the details. But when I check/uncheck the checkbox it goes back to its original state
[09:35] <zamba> what does it mean that uptime is displayed with a '!' in?
[09:35] <zamba> it says here: Uptime: 180 days(!)
[09:35] <cypha> until i installed some nvidia driver
[09:35] <linsejko> mgolisch, and everyone! I was never able to get this app to work properly on windows, but here on linux it was a small matter. :D
[09:35] <cypha> i have no idea what the 2 have to do with each other
[09:35] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading dppd from a link on the page I gave you
[09:35] <linsejko> thank you all.
[09:35] <mgolisch> linsejko: np
[09:35] <dpowerd> cypha, is the driver otherwise working properly?
[09:35] <babola1> bloops: have you done sudo pppconf?
[09:36] <abadd0n_> is there an emulator like ndiswrapper to use osx drivers instead of windows drivers (for example a broadcom 4328 chipset) because, honestly, the windows driver sucks ass
[09:36] <cypha> dpowerd: well, i can't get the dual display to work either
[09:36] <dpowerd> have you tried envy?
[09:36] <cypha> what's envy?
[09:36] <dpowerd> its really wonderful imo
[09:36] <dppd> bazhang: ok... i tried this one but it does not work...
[09:36] <LSD|Ninja> abadd0n_: best solution for broadcrap is replacement
[09:36] <bazhang> !envy | dpowerd
[09:36] <cypha> still don't know what it is
[09:36] <Chapai> that does not help
[09:37] <cypha> updated version of a package?
[09:37] <abadd0n_> LSD|Ninja, 1. why? 2. not really an option on my airport extreme card
[09:37] <cypha> what is that
[09:37] <dpowerd> cypha, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[09:37] <cypha> what is that package
[09:37] <Chapai> its a driver for nvidia and ati graphics cards cypha
[09:37] <dpowerd> uninstall your nvidia drivers and do them through envy
[09:37] <cypha> ohh
[09:37] <bloops> babola1: plog reports it as connected. Primary DNS, Secondary DNS etc. I connected using pon.
[09:37] <dpowerd> i ahd my dual monitors up and running in no time flat
[09:37] <LSD|Ninja> abadd0n_: Broadcom wireless is irredeemably shite, no matter what OS you run
[09:37] <bloops> But I want to do it from network manager, or another gui.
[09:37] <babola1> and your PPP connection in NetMan still is unchecked?
[09:37] <dpowerd> i dont really enjoy editing xorg.conf manually :p
[09:37] <bazhang> dppd, what was the exact command you gave
[09:37] <cypha> dpowerd: how do i uninstall my drivers?
[09:37] <dppd> When i press Alt-F2 and type gksu "update-manager -d" nothing happens ;-(
[09:38]  * LSD|Ninja is lucky he got his MacBook while they were still using Atheros chips
[09:38] <babola1> bloops: and your PPP connection in NetMan still is unchecked?
[09:38] <bloops> babola1: No. Its checked. It reports the status correctly.
[09:38] <dpowerd> i think you can actually uninstall them with envy, then install
[09:38] <bloops> But I cannot uncheck it.
[09:38] <bloops> Or check it when its connected.
[09:38] <babola1> bloops: then what is your questin?
[09:38] <babola1> *question
[09:38] <dpowerd> yes you can
[09:39] <bazhang> dppd, you checked that dapper-updates was enabled or not
[09:39] <bloops> Can I do the connecteion/disconnection without using pon/poff?
[09:39] <dppd> bazhang: how do i check this?
[09:39] <Chapai> ppl still use dapper?
[09:39] <cypha> dpowerd: will it ask me?
[09:39] <abadd0n_> LSD|Ninja, actually in osx it's pretty good, but i'll take your argument as a mere insult towards the hardware, which, by the way, is not of any help to me
[09:39] <dppd> bazhang: by running the update manager?
[09:39] <dpowerd> cypha, yes
[09:39] <babola1> bloops: NetMan should remember your previous settings so that you won't have to dial again. you still need to dial before you can connect *every* startup?
[09:39] <yit41> help! i cant mount my drive all of sudden
[09:40] <bazhang> abadd0n_, please tone it down
[09:40] <cypha> what's the difference between terminal and konsole?
[09:40] <dpowerd> cypha, if you are using kubuntu make sure to grab the right envy version
[09:40] <bloops> babola1: yes.
[09:40] <rhydar__> konsole is the KDE terminal ...
[09:40] <cypha> i have ubuntu
[09:40] <cypha> sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[09:40] <cypha> ?
[09:40] <LSD|Ninja> abadd0n_: you're like the 3rd person in here today who's complaining about Broadcrap, people are in here all the time complaining about it and my sister had a braodcrap card in her laptop that I replaced with an Intel over hte weekend because it was so bad
[09:40] <rhydar__> terminal is the xfce terminal ...
[09:40] <babola1> well, that's odd. How did you set up your connection? sudo pppconf?
[09:41] <dpowerd> cypha, just follow the guide in the link i posted
[09:41] <cypha> k
[09:41] <dpowerd> looks correct though
[09:41] <LSD|Ninja> (3rd person that I've noticed that is)
[09:41] <babola1> bloops: well, that's odd. How did you set up your connection? sudo pppconf?
[09:41] <rhydar__> I don't think that terminal can tab windows ...
[09:41] <bazhang> dppd you can find synaptic?
[09:41] <bloops> babola1: yes.
[09:41] <bloops> babola1: if its disconnected in the middle, (it happens) I have to use pon too.
[09:41] <bloops> Cant I just use nm to do what pon, poff does?
[09:41] <dppd> hazhang: opened it...!
[09:42] <babola1> bloops: perhaps it's an ISP issue..
[09:42] <abadd0n_> i'm not really complaining about the hardware, simply about the diffences in drivers, if linuxwireless had gotten around to m43 supporting 4328/29 chipsets yet, i'm sure it'd work just fine
[09:42] <cq> if a new upstream version is available, do you file a bug on the package? I'm looking at keepassx 0.2.2 vs 0.3.1
[09:42] <bloops> I am asking because thats what I did in fedora.
[09:42] <cypha> dpowerd: it didn't ask me to uninstall the nvidia stuff
[09:42] <bazhang> dppd enable dapper-updates then refresh/reload
[09:42] <bloops> I could connect/disconnect using the gui there.
[09:42] <yit41> help me to mount my drive again
[09:42] <dpowerd> did you open envy already?
[09:42] <bloops> Is it possible to replace NM?
[09:42] <dpowerd> there is a GUI
[09:42] <rhydar__> sudo mouny -a
[09:42] <LSD|Ninja> abadd0n_: Is your machine as OS X/Ubuntu dual boot? Is whether the card is supported in OS X oob important to you?
[09:42] <rhydar__> mount
[09:42] <bloops> With the one present in fedora?
[09:43] <rhydar__> sorry, sudo mount -a
[09:43] <cypha> dpowerd: i typed sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[09:43] <cypha> and it did whatever it did
[09:43] <cypha> and now it's done
[09:43] <babola1> !who | bloops
[09:43] <dpowerd> cypha, now u must open it
[09:43] <abadd0n_> actually a triple boot and already supportet in osx, i don't understand the second question @ LSD|Ninja
[09:43] <dpowerd> cypha, sudo envyng -t
[09:43] <dppd> bazhang: how do i enable dapper -updates?
[09:43] <yit41> something went wrong with my ubuntu. it says i dont have the privilege to do so
[09:43] <abadd0n_> sry, gotta run, be back
[09:43] <cypha> ohhh, ok, cool gui
[09:44] <bazhang> cypha apps-->system tools
[09:44] <cypha> yeah, i just found it
[09:44] <cypha> i was looking in system/apps
[09:44] <cypha> =)
[09:44] <dpowerd> cypha, there is also a real GUI not inside the terminal
[09:44] <cypha> yeah, i ran it from Applications now
[09:44] <bloops> babola1: can I replace NM with something else?
[09:44] <dpowerd> poke around under system in the main meun
[09:44] <dpowerd> ok
[09:44] <rhydar__> yit41 | mount is a sbin command, you have to sudo to execute
[09:44] <yit41> rhydar__: it says no file or such directory
[09:44] <microwaver> I'm experiencing a weird problem with ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy. Sometimes it is if, when I type or I alt tab or different keystrokes one of the keys 'stuck' it is just repeated over and over. any ideas what creates this problem?
[09:44] <LSD|Ninja> abadd0n_: afaik, the Airport Extreme card is still mini-PCIe (at least on MacBook Pro) meaning it should be to replace it with, say, the Intel n card, However, that will kill your wireless in OS X
[09:45] <cypha> i chose to "remove" the nvidia drivers and it's downloading something
[09:45] <cypha> that's so weird
[09:45] <cq> is there an easy way to go from kubuntu to ubuntu (and maybe back)? I'd like to try gnome
[09:45] <yit41> rhydar__:but i can see my drive (named 38.8 GB Media) under Places
[09:45] <babola1> bloops: im not sure. i'll go check on that. but i think Network Manager can connect/disconnect. a click on the NetMan icon, then a popup appears. Hover your cursor over "dial up connections" and it should give you options
[09:46] <dpowerd> cypha, best of luck to you, im gone to raid my fridge, highlight me if you have probs ;]
[09:46] <bazhang> dppd, is there not a software source in synaptic called dapper-updates? click to enable then refresh/reload
[09:46] <cypha> thanks dpowered: u've been very helpful!
[09:46] <rhydar__> yit41 | sudo apt-get install mount ... maybe
[09:46] <bazhang> cq install ubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <bloops> babola1: left click on the icon has a 'Manual Configuration' dialog link. Right click has
[09:47] <cq> and then install kde-desktop to go back?=
[09:47] <cq> or how is the default wm set?
[09:47] <yit41> rhydar__:what do you mean maybe? i can mount before this and i even set up my ubuntu to auto-mount my drive
[09:47] <rhydar__> yit41 | is it an external drive?
[09:47] <stevem> Hey, I'm having difficulty deleting two directories from /mnt - see this nopaste and you'll see it looks _really_ wierd :S ... http://rafb.net/p/fuxa3B77.html
[09:47] <bloops> babola1: *'Enable Networking' checkbox which enables disables eth0
[09:47] <bazhang> cq you have kubuntu now? then choose in login screen under sessions
[09:47] <yit41> rhydar__: no, it's another partition. my XP partition. i installed my hardy via wubi
[09:48] <babola1> bloops: what do you have in Network Settings, Connections tab?
[09:48] <dppd> bazhang: ok. i did it... but nothings changes...
[09:48] <cq> bazhang: yes. where is sessions?
[09:48] <bazhang> cq in login screen the little menu there click it
[09:48] <cq> is the login screen teh same for kde/gnome?
[09:48] <natalisushka> Hi people. I have a problem with my system that when I start it, non of the loading bar and the configuration output (starting servers, applications, checking system ...) appear. instead, I get a dim back screen with a very little light and then logs in the system normally after 3 minutes! Can anyone predict what's wrong?
[09:49] <yit41> and my pidgin kept giving me Reading error when it is trying to connect to MSN
[09:49] <bazhang> natalisushka, with that small amount of info hard to say
[09:49] <bazhang> dppd, you need to refresh now
[09:50] <o0Chris0o> natalisushka: check your system logs
[09:50] <dppd> bazhang: i did... It updates all the packetinfo...
[09:50] <bazhang> dppd now try the command again
 I believe it's a VGA driver problem. When I press Ctrl+Alt+4 to switch to command line unix-like I get very big characters, 4 in one line
[09:51] <rhydar__> yit41 | if wubi is like VirtualBox, there might be some config settings to allow networking and access to other drives ...
 What exactly of the system log I must check?
[09:51] <bazhang> natalisushka, then boot in recovery mode and fix the driver issue
[09:51] <dppd> bazhang: Alt-F2 and type gksu "update-manager -d"??
[09:51] <bazhang> dppd first close synaptic
 I don't know how and what to fix! that's why I am here
[09:51] <dppd> bazhang: ok
[09:51] <bazhang> natalisushka, first boot into recovery mode
[09:52] <rhydar__> natalisushka | are you using grub?
[09:52] <cq> bazhang: do adept, synaptic, apt-get, etc. all play nice together? or do they need to be kept in sync somehow?
 Yes
[09:52] <yit41> rhydar__: well, i can see my drive, access the files in it normally before this
 And then?
[09:52] <yit41> rhydar__: 10 minutes ago it stopped working
[09:52] <Ollie_> Hello... what do I need to install to get "dlsym" ??
[09:52] <bazhang> cq adept synaptic and add/remove are front ends for apt
[09:52] <dppd> bazhang: nothing changes.... ;-)
[09:52] <tobago> is there a way to save an opened/edited gedit-file when the the kernel is standing?
[09:53] <bazhang> dppd pastebin your sources.list
[09:53] <cq> bazhang: which use /var/lib/dpkg, ok...
[09:53] <tobago> i know it sounds curious but the linux machine is really standing without using any cpu with load average 10!!!
[09:53] <bazhang> cq dpkg
[09:54] <yit41> where is mimi??
[09:54] <tobago> i only have access to this machine via ssh from another machine.
 After I login to my recovery mode, what shall I do?
[09:54] <rhydar__> natalisushka | vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
 What do you want to know exactly?
[09:55] <Cheavera> I need a working Sun java plugin on a 64 bit system. I installed a 32bit firefox in /opt/ but i cant call any websites. I can call the local ip-adressof my router. Can someone help me out?
 Do you want me to pastebin the contents?
[09:55] <Myrtti> !tab | natalisushka
[09:55] <bazhang> natalisushka, then we need to fix the driver issue; have you booted into safe mode yet
[09:56] <cypha> i just installed EnvyNG
[09:56] <cypha> anyone famliar with that?
[09:56] <LSD|Ninja> !envy | cypha
 But as far as I remember safe mode isn't graphic! or is it?
[09:57] <lorenzo_> hi can anyone suggest a way to transform avi files into mp4 on hardy amd64 please? thanks?
[09:57] <Ollie_> Hi. I'm trying to compile something, but it's not working because I'm missing "dlsym", "dlerror", "dlopen", and "dlclose". Any help?
[09:57]  * LSD|Ninja can't believe he just did that...
[09:57] <bazhang> natalisushka, yes it is
[09:57] <joetheodd> Are there any Java 1.4 packages on the repositories anymore?
[09:57]  * LSD|Ninja has been hanging in here for far too long
[09:57] <wols_> Ollie_: paste the error, first arror
[09:57] <Cheavera> How can i install a 32bit firefox on my 64bit system the way it works?
 From grub?
[09:57] <cypha> LSD|Ninja, how do i get it to recognize my 2nd monitor?
[09:57] <wols_> joetheodd: not really. 1.4 is long gone
[09:57] <rhydar__> Ollie_ | sudo apt-cache search dlsym ...
[09:58] <dppd> bazhang: got the sources.list?
[09:58] <yit41> anyone here to help me with mounting my drive?
[09:58] <leonbrussels> Cheavera: Could this help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:58] <cypha> and also, i chose to uninstall the nvidia drives (from within the NVNG thing in applications) and the Nvidia X Server SEttings are still there
[09:58] <joetheodd> wols_, say I were to have to upgrade the wooly mammoth of java projects and compile against 1.4, where could I get a copy of the JDK? I suppose I'm comfortable jerry-rig installing it.
[09:58] <bazhang> dppd you need to pastebin it and then give the url here
[09:58] <wols_> joetheodd: old ubuntu version, sun, blackdown
[09:59] <bazhang> rhydar__, no sudo needed for apt-cache search
[09:59] <joetheodd> wols_, think I could find sun's 1.4 on an old ubuntu package browser and manually install the deb?
[09:59] <wols_> joetheodd: yes, if you are lucky
[09:59] <wols_> tho, java is non-free
[10:00] <Jburrke> Hey, when I load up a game like ET for example I get these wierd flashy black boxes on the screen.. Anyone know what that's about?
[10:00] <o0Chris0o> ET?
[10:00] <o0Chris0o> Enemy Territory?
[10:00] <dpowerd> cypha, you cant configure your monitors through the "nvidia x server settings" windows
[10:00] <joetheodd> wols_, jdk's 5 and 6 can't compile against old versions, can they?
[10:00] <Jburrke> Yeah
[10:00] <dpowerd> ?
[10:00] <European-African> hey, I have a problem configuring my network in System>>Administration>>Network Tools. The Configure button it greyed out. Is this a permissions, or do you conf the network different in gusty than fiesty?
[10:00] <o0Chris0o> !games | jburrke
[10:00] <dppd> bazhang:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12403/
[10:01] <Ollie_> rhydar__: I just run that command. Found 6 packages that have some libraries, and I installed them. I'm still getting the same error though ... ?
[10:01] <alsadk> i want an application to recover rar password and have a gui and deb
[10:01] <o0Chris0o> Jburrke: could be some settings with your video card, not all cards are supported 100%
[10:01] <microwaver> I'm experiencing a weird problem with ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy. Sometimes it is if, when I type or I alt tab or different keystrokes one of the keys 'stuck' it is just repeated over and over. any ideas what creates this problem?
[10:01] <arooni_> when sending mail to a SMTP server, with TLS encryption enabled, is it even possible to use a proxy server so that the SMTP server wouldn't know my computer's IP address (for privacy) ?  if so , how would it work?
[10:01] <Jburrke> o0Chris0o: Is there a list i can take a look at?
[10:02] <idimmu> how do i disable compiz in hardy?
[10:02] <babola1> ok. i'm taking a risk at being offtopic here. i'm about to plugin an old pixelview TV card (BT878) and I was wondering if i should know anything "of note" before i try to set it up
[10:02] <bazhang> dppd now open up terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <Ollie_> wols_: ../src/.libs/libglpk.so: undefined reference to `dlsym'
[10:02] <Ollie_> ../src/.libs/libglpk.so: undefined reference to `dlerror'
[10:02] <Ollie_> ../src/.libs/libglpk.so: undefined reference to `dlopen'
[10:02] <Ollie_> ../src/.libs/libglpk.so: undefined reference to `dlclose'
[10:02] <FloodBot1> Ollie_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <babola1> idimmu: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[10:02] <o0Chris0o> Jburrke: what video card do you have?
[10:02] <wols_> bazhang: no, V4L works nicely usually for this chip
[10:03] <idimmu> hmm i dont have an 'advanced desktop effect settings'
[10:03] <wols_> Ollie_: you aren't linking to a needed library
[10:03] <Jburrke> o0Chris0o: I dun remember, what's the command I type to find out again?
[10:03] <bazhang> wols_, which chip?
[10:03] <wols_> hence, undefined references
[10:03] <joetheodd> Tr0gd0r was a man, or maybe he was a dragon man, or maybe he was just a dragon!
[10:03] <wols_> bazhang: bt878
[10:03] <European-African> hey, I have a problem configuring my network in System>>Administration>>Network Tools. The Configure button it greyed out. Is this a permissions, or do you conf the network differently in gusty than fiesty? I am using 7.10.
[10:03] <alsadk> i want an application to recover rar password and have a gui and deb
[10:03] <babola1> idimmu: you haven't installed ccsm yet? hmm. try appearances, effects tab and set it to none
[10:03] <o0Chris0o> ahh whats that command lspi I think..
[10:03] <o0Chris0o> !lspi
[10:03] <LSD|Ninja> AND THE DRAGON COMES IN THE NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGHHHHHTTT!
[10:03] <o0Chris0o> :(
[10:03] <dppd> bazhang: ok did it
[10:03] <Ollie_> wols_: It's GLPK... I downloaded the source from the website. Do I need to modify the code to get it to compile?
[10:03] <Jburrke> :/
[10:03] <LSD|Ninja> !trogodr
[10:03] <bazhang> LSD|Ninja, please stop now
[10:03] <dpowerd> !repeat | European-African
[10:04] <xaint> Hi, is there i way i can get my  ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02) to work. According to the HP website i am supposed to use Conexant CX20468-31 AC97 Audio Driver. How do i install the driver?
[10:04] <o0Chris0o> bazhang: whats the command to list the available cards?
[10:04] <willwork4foo> hi all - I'm trying to get netatalk set up to work with my Leopard macbook, and I'm almost there... I've managed to get the server visible in the "Shared" area on the Finder sidebar in Leopard, but when I click on it I get "Connect Failed" - if I try clicking "Connect As" and entering my username/password from Ubuntu, it responds immediately with "Connection failed - there was an error connecting to the server. Check the s
[10:04] <joetheodd> LSD|Ninja burninating the country side, burninating the peasants! burninating all people.. [random screaming]
[10:04] <European-African> ok
[10:04]  * idimmu installs
[10:04] <LSD|Ninja> bazhang: noone in this channel is any fun >_<
[10:04] <European-African> sorry
[10:04] <rhydar__> Ollie | no README or ./configure script?
[10:04] <willwork4foo> can anyone help me out with netatalk? This is driving me nuts!
[10:04] <alsadk> i want an application to recover rar password and have a gui and deb
[10:04] <bazhang> joetheodd, and LSD|Ninja please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[10:05] <Cheavera> leonbrussels: Bedankt precies wat ik zocht.
[10:05] <bazhang> dppd now try the command again
[10:05] <LSD|Ninja> bazhang: this is hte fun-vee, the humdrum-vee is over there -> :P
[10:05] <idimmu> babola1: it seems that simple-ccsm doesnt actually let you disable compiz, it just lets you configure it
[10:05] <dpowerd> !nl | Cheavera
[10:05] <dppd> bazhang: nothing happens
[10:06] <leonbrussels> Cheavera: No problem, one quick google search did the trick :)
[10:06] <o0Chris0o> bazhang: whats the command to list the available cards? video and audio
[10:06] <bazhang> lspci o0Chris0o
[10:07] <o0Chris0o> ahhh
[10:07] <o0Chris0o> I was close :)
[10:07] <alsadk> i want an application to recover rar password and have a gui and deb
[10:07] <o0Chris0o> try that Jburrke "lspci" in terminal
[10:07] <idimmu> babola1: the correct answer is 'system->preferences->visual affects'
[10:07] <o0Chris0o> and find your video card
[10:07] <idimmu> thanks for your help
[10:07] <idimmu> babola1: the correct answer is 'system->preferences->appearence->visual affects' even
[10:07] <babola1> idimmu: you can also try -->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778602&highlight=disable+compiz
[10:08] <Jburrke> o0Chris0o lots of stuff
[10:08] <babola1> idimmu: that was what i told you.. [(01:03:21  PHT) babola1: idimmu: you haven't installed ccsm yet? hmm. try appearances, effects tab and set it to none]
[10:08] <o0Chris0o> !paste | Jburrke
[10:08] <willwork4foo> hi all - I'm trying to get netatalk set up to work with my Leopard macbook, and I'm almost there... I've managed to get the server visible in the "Shared" area on the Finder sidebar in Leopard, but when I click on it I get "Connect Failed" - if I try clicking "Connect As" and entering my username/password from Ubuntu, it responds immediately with "Connection failed - there was an error connecting to the server. Check the s
[10:09] <yit41> anyone? please, i have to get my drive work soon on my ubuntu
[10:09] <o0Chris0o> !anyone | yit41
[10:09] <bazhang> dppd just open up update manager without the alt-f2
[10:09] <o0Chris0o> !patience
[10:09] <Jburrke> o0Chris0o http://paste.ubuntu.com/12410/
[10:09] <idimmu> ah sorry babola1 didnt notice :)
[10:09] <dppd> bazhang: Yep!
[10:09] <o0Chris0o> k one sec Jburrke and I will check it out
[10:10] <Jburrke> mkk
 I logged in recovery mode, it was only shell!
[10:10] <babola1> *sigh*
[10:10] <alsadk> i want an application to recover rar password and have a gui and deb
[10:10] <bazhang> natalisushka, this is gutsy or hardy
[10:10] <panesar_sandeep> can anyone help me out with "running oracle based applications on linux"?
[10:10] <natalisushka> Gusty
[10:10] <dpowerd> !repeat | alsadk
[10:10] <panesar_sandeep> can anyone help me out with "running oracle based applications on linux"?
[10:10] <bazhang> alsadk, you lost the pass? then it is gone
[10:10] <natalisushka> I mentioned I have 7.10
[10:11] <bullgard4> What Linux command approximates a Windows command 'net view'?
[10:11] <bazhang> natalisushka, try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:11] <Ollie_> I want to compile something with the intel "icc" compiler rather than gcc. How can I do this with ./configure and make?
[10:11] <LSD|Ninja> bullgard4: smbclient -L server -U user ?
[10:11] <o0Chris0o> Jburrke: this is your vid card,  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) it is integrated on your mother board. I suggest you go to the site I provided and read carefully and make sure you have it set up correctly
[10:11] <o0Chris0o> !games
[10:11] <dppd> bazhang: i try to run su update-manager -d in a terminal but the terminal just pops....!
[10:12] <yit41> ok, here's the situation: my ubuntu suddenly stop mounting my XP partition. i can see the drive under Places (named 38.8GB Media) but if i click it it says i dont have the privilege to do so. i've been accessing file on that partition and i did make an fstab mod to get my ubuntu auto-mount my other partition
[10:12] <bazhang> dppd, no not from terminal
 Is there a specific option I should set or avoid in  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:12] <rhydar__> Ollie_ | there should be a compiler option in the ./configure scripts ?
[10:12] <bazhang> natalisushka, if you dont know just choose default, be sure to choose the right driver (eg nvidia not nv)
[10:13] <natalisushka> I have ati
[10:13]  * chalcedony smiles
[10:13] <natalisushka> it detects everything automatically, I remember last time I did it it was all default!
[10:13] <baking> why when everytime I try to install a package it wants me to put cd in for some reason?
[10:13] <rhydar__> yit41 | did you try cli: sudo mount -a
[10:13] <baking> I am trying to install make
[10:13] <baking> and it want's cd
[10:13] <chalcedony> dears is there a CURRENT command line upgrade from feisty to gutsy and THEN from gutsy to Hardy?
[10:13] <natalisushka> What is Video card's bus identifier: PCI:1:0:0_
[10:14] <dpowerd> baking, i believe you need to edit your sources list
[10:14] <rhydar__> baking | you need to set up your sources
[10:14] <bazhang> baking install build-essential; first remove cd as software source and refresh
[10:14] <yit41> rhydar__: i did and it says /media/disk: No such file or directory
[10:14] <baking> I got everthing enabled
[10:14] <baking> ok
[10:14] <Chapai> yit41:- cut the entry in fstab for the drive and save it, click the drive, it should mount and paste the entry back in fstab.
[10:15] <Chapai> i am trying to compile the rlink driver for the dwl - g122 but i get errors when i get to make, this the same error i get, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/rt73-make-problem-with-kernel-2.6.20-1.2933.fc6-i686-541053/
[10:15] <yit41> chapai: how do i open up the fstab again?
[10:15] <Jburrke> o0Chris0o: sorry man
 How do I know if my Video Card lacks RAM (So I may specify an amount of memory for it?)
[10:15] <wols_> yit41: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[10:16] <Chapai> gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[10:16] <chalcedony> i just really need the current link for command line upgrading from feisty to gutsy?
[10:16] <baking> bazhang what the cd package name be called?
[10:16] <bazhang> baking cd
[10:16] <o0Chris0o> Jburrke: bout what?
[10:17] <dppd> bazhang: isn't reinstalling the answer?
[10:17] <dppd> bazhang: can i upgrade from a cd?
[10:17] <wols_> natalisushka: lspci to find out which card it is
[10:17] <Jburrke> You were going to take a look at my pastebin?
[10:17] <bazhang> natalisushka, what card is it
[10:17] <o0Chris0o> ahh indeeed I did and replied to you
[10:17] <baking> (bazhang E: Couldn't find package cd
[10:17] <o0Chris0o> Jburrke: this is your vid card,  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) it is integrated on your mother board. I suggest you go to the site I provided and read carefully and make sure you have it set up correctly
[10:17] <wols_> chalcedony: edit your sources.list and apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:17] <o0Chris0o> !games
[10:17] <wols_> baking: cd is a shell built in
[10:17] <natalisushka> I have ATI
[10:17] <bazhang> baking, you need to go into synaptic and do it there
[10:18] <dermoth> playtrafficlog last
[10:18] <wols_> natalisushka: doesn't answer my question
[10:18] <Jburrke> o0Chris0o can you link me to the site again?
[10:18] <baking> I only got ssh acess
[10:18] <natalisushka> I have ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[10:18] <bazhang> natalisushka, what exact ati do you have
[10:18] <dermoth> oops ;)
[10:18] <natalisushka> So X is memory?
[10:18] <DarphBobo> what works best on hardy? gnash or macromedia flashplayer ?
[10:18] <baking> (bazhang, what I do with just just ssh
[10:18] <baking> can't do it from there?
[10:18] <wols_> DarphBobo: adobe flash if your hardware supports it
[10:18] <wols_> baking: you can
[10:18] <Jburrke> Lol
[10:19] <o0Chris0o> Jburrke:  ok you watching :)
[10:19] <yit41> wols_: can i use the gedit instead of nano? what is the command?
 ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[10:19] <o0Chris0o> !games
[10:19] <Jburrke> Yeah I'm here
[10:19] <dpowerd> baking, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <wols_> yit41: gedit uses X, nano uses CLI
[10:19] <bazhang> baking sure you can sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list put a # in front of cd
[10:19] <Jburrke> Okay, thanks
[10:19] <lorenzo_> hi, how do i encode videos for my ipod? I have read about ffmpeg but it looks complicated. anything easier to use? thanks
[10:19] <DarphBobo> wols_: adobe flash got any crash issues with ff in hardy?
[10:19] <bazhang> baking then sudo apt-get update after you have saved the file
[10:19] <faileas> I read about the issues with openssh on debian based distros.. i admin a ubuntu gutsy box remotely, and when i tried to update it openssh got held back. I assume its cause i'm using it... so am i gonna have to go down and physically update it?
[10:20] <cypha> dpowerd: i can't find ANYONE to help me bud, i'm sorry to bother you again
[10:20] <wols_> faileas: it's not cause you're uising it
[10:20] <Jburrke> j
, <bazhang> ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[10:20] <dpowerd> cypha, whats up
[10:20] <faileas> wols_: why then >_>
[10:20] <wols_> faileas: dependency issues
[10:20] <tmroland> hello
[10:20] <cypha> ok, so envyNG doesn't seem to have uninstalled nvidia
[10:20] <cypha> drivers
[10:20] <faileas> o0
[10:20] <bazhang> natalisushka, is that a fairly new card-->how much video ram does it have
[10:21] <wols_> apt-get install the package explicitly or use dist-upgrade
[10:21] <faileas> wols_: so another file needs the older version?
[10:21] <tmroland> i have attached a printer/scanner to ubuntu 7.10 and nothing happens
[10:21] <cypha> i can still access the Nvidia X server settings
[10:21] <wols_> faileas: no
[10:21] <Radit> I just reinstalled ubuntu and backuped the var/cache/apt directory which is full of deb packages, if i use synaptics ( file -> add downloaded packages) will it be updated in the future? or is there a better way?
[10:21] <wols_> cypha: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[10:21] <dpowerd> but you cant configure them from there?
[10:21] <beginner> !paste
 I didn't understand!
[10:21] <faileas> wols_: so i assume it won't update, and just put in place other measures ?
[10:21] <yit41> chapai: okay, i can mount the drive again. if i added back the line, will the problem occur again? i need the line so that i can get my files once ubuntu boots
[10:21] <void^> faileas: probably a new dependency - just try dist-upgrade
[10:22] <cypha> ok, but before i do that...can i get the envyNG drivers to work/do something?
[10:22] <faileas> void^: wouldn't that upgrade me to hardy? >_>
[10:22] <Chapai> no it should not occur again yit41
[10:22] <void^> faileas: no, completely unrelated
[10:22] <cypha> where are the display options for the EnvyNG drivers?
[10:22] <faileas> void^: seems to work ^^
[10:22] <yit41> chapai: so i just add back the same line?
[10:23] <faileas> thanks
[10:23] <Chapai> did you by anychange boot into windows and out inproperly yit41
[10:23] <bazhang> natalisushka, how much video ram does that ati card have? 64MB or what
[10:23] <Chapai> what line are you adding to fstab by they way yit41
[10:23] <milton101> #join dalnet
[10:23] <cypha> dpowerd: any idea?
[10:24] <UB`> https://www.paypal.com/
 That's what I was asking! I don't know actually!
[10:24] <UB`> ops
[10:24] <UB`> sorry
[10:24] <administrateur> #kubuntu
[10:24] <FloodBot1> UB`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:24] <natalisushka> How can I know?
[10:24] <yit41> chapai: i dont think so
[10:24]  * faileas is kinda suprised how well ubuntu runs on that 450 mhz box (granted with 640 mb of ram) and how useful its turning out
[10:24] <moii> kununtu
[10:25] <yit41> chapai: this line >> /dev/sda1 /media/disk ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[10:25] <dpowerd> uh
[10:25] <bazhang> natalisushka, how old is the card
[10:25] <moii> #kubuntu
[10:25] <Chapai> ok, it normally happens when i xp restarts, the partition locks up and i either force mount or boot into windows to resolve it yit41
[10:25] <wols_> natalisushka: you don't need to know how much it has, X will find out on its own
[10:25] <scoopex_> anyone knows what i need to play dvds?
[10:25] <Chapai> i did not ask what version of ubuntu do you have yit41
 I bought it 3 years ago
[10:25] <wols_> !dvd | scoopex_
[10:26] <crille> excuse me, what is the programs called that make a small window on your dekstop showing different statistics?  like HD usage, Ram usage, net usage and so on?
[10:26] <yit41> chapai: i'm using hardy heron, installed via wubi
[10:26] <beginner> Hi people! i found a problem with resolution after upgrade my Ubuntu from gutsy to hardy  and when i go system>preferences>screen resolution ,i got error msg "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."
[10:26] <wols_> crille: conky for example
[10:26] <yit41> chapai: but i installed on other partition that is empty
[10:27] <crille> wols: thank you,  and what are the type of program called?  something like widget or applet?
 I understand, I have a question upon that. I am configuring xserver-xorg and it's asking me for an amount of memory. I know that my card doesn't lack memory, but I want to ask if adding some memory, will it help the card be faster?
[10:27] <sudoer> anyone here using rails with the ubuntu 8.04?
[10:27] <Chapai>  /dev/sda1 /media/disk ntfs default 0 0 is what i have in my fstab, it i get no issues with mounting, i am certain  ntfs-3g comes installed with hardy yit41
[10:27] <sudoer> i cant get fastthread to build
[10:28] <vix85> is there any runtime for linux which can execute .NET byte code? I knew about MonoDevelop for developing, but is there any specialized runtime for just the execution?
[10:28] <vix85> know*
[10:28] <yit41> chapai: what is ntfs-3g anyway?
[10:28] <beginner> please could somone help im newuser of Linux
[10:28] <wols_> crille: conky is a normal program, what you mean is maybe gdesklets
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> lo all o/
[10:28] <wols_> yit41: a user space ntfs driver which can read and write to ntfs partitoins
[10:28] <wols_> !ask | beginner
[10:29] <Chapai> its i think driver or module to allow read/right access to nfts partition but needed for older ubuntu
[10:29] <wols_> Chapai: needed for all ubuntu if you want to write to ntfs
[10:29] <beginner> Wols_ i did ask :)
[10:29] <rhydar__> vix85 | google for winecracks
[10:29] <soldats> yit41: ntfs-3g allowws you to mount and read write ntfs partitions correctly
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | Chapai
[10:29] <yit41> thanks everyone
[10:29] <crille> wols_:thank you, that was what I was wondering
[10:30] <issa> hi
 So do you know the answer to my question?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> !hi | issa
[10:31] <yit41> i need help on my pidgin. it wont connect to MSN protocol. i think it started when i uninstalled, deleted the .purple folder and reinstalled because i had some issue with pidgin not responding
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> yit41: uninstal then reinstall the app
[10:31] <blame> how do I edit settings on which run levels certain service runs?
[10:31] <lorenzo_> hi, is there any way I can install i386 software onto hardy amd64? I need to use WinFF which is 386 only. thanks a lot for your kind help
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !nice | blame
[10:32] <gravin> yit41 if your msn password is too long it wont connect
[10:32] <Bodsda> lorenzo_, it should work fine
[10:32] <yit41> ActionParsnip: again? what are the commands?
[10:32] <yit41> gravin: well, it works perfectly fine before this
[10:32] <blame> ActionParsnip: !?
[10:32] <vix85> rhydar__ : google for winecracks?
[10:32] <issa> I an using Gusty 7.10 .. I tried installing Hardy, but every time I logged in, opening 1 or 2 apps it freezes! I set graphic to the lowest, but couldn't work with the system without getting it freezed and having to switch power off :/ What could the problem be? Is it memory or video card?
[10:32] <lorenzo_> Bodsda: ok, but how do i install it? When i open the deb package, it says "wrong architecture". thanks
[10:32] <gravin> oh ok
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> yit41: sudo apt-get remove -purge pidgin; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pidgin
[10:33] <DistroJockey> blame: sudo apt-get install sysvconfig  && sudo sysvconfig
[10:33] <soldats> beginner: so im think depending on your computer setup if you have a nexer non onboard video card you may need the restricted drivers for your video card to get the right resolution, not sure if it worked before but itsd a start, the restricted drivers will be in administration>restricted drivers. if this isnt the prolem its worth checking out if your card is nvidia or ati but im out of it right now but i hope you get it working if not ill be on tom
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> yit41:  not sure about the -purge bit, I'm never sure where it goes in the command
[10:33] <Bodsda> lorenzo_, oh,. is it in the repo's?
[10:33] <rhydar__> does anoyone know of the command to activate hotplug daemon for usf flash drives?
[10:33] <rhydar__> does anoyone know of the command to activate hotplug daemon for usb flash drives?
[10:34] <beginner> i said im new to linux (Ubuntu) & when i upgrade Gutsy to hardy i got a problem with resolution  (800*600) i think (big icons) and when i go to System>preferences>screen resolution i got this error msg : "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."
[10:34] <natalisushka> Guys, anyone knows if it's possible to add memory while configuring xserver-xorg to a video card that doesn't lack memory by itself?
[10:34] <soldats> beginner: i meant newer video card that is not on board
[10:34] <yit41> and also is it normal for ubuntu to produce sound from only one application at one time? like i'm running amarok, playing some songs while ubuntu doesnt produce any sounds unless i stop amarok
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> yit41: it --purge, my bad
[10:34] <beginner> its Nvidia
[10:34] <beginner> and it was working perfectly with Gutsy
[10:34] <yit41> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[10:34] <Bodsda> ActionParsnip,  apt-get remove --purge     is valid as is        apt-get purge
[10:34] <o0Chris0o> !nvidia
[10:35] <nxvl> hi
[10:35] <nxvl> did someone know how to mount an sd card?
[10:35] <soldats> beginner: well i assume you should install thew restricted drivers for your card they should be in what i said before or in synaptics package manager so see the first you should be able to search easily for it but i need to sleep so ill maybe see you later good luck
[10:35] <Fritzel> would I be asking for trouble if I did something like this, aoss padsp wine application.exe
[10:35] <beginner> i did and it says in use!
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> nxvl: push in the card then run fdisk -l
[10:36] <DistroJockey> sudo fdisk -l  ^
[10:36] <nxvl> ActionParsnip: don't see it there
[10:36] <faileas> nxvl: same way as any other card...
[10:37] <beginner> soldats: >hardware drivers its checked and says in use
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> DistroJockey: i thought you could fdisk -l as user, not really a power command to list stuff
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> nxvl: can we have a pastebin of lspci
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> !paste | nxvl
[10:37] <DistroJockey> ActionParsnip: doesn't work
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> DistroJockey: ok, but you can see mypoint right?
[10:38] <DistroJockey> ActionParsnip: yes, I do :)
[10:38] <nxvl> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12415/
[10:38] <natalisushka> Guys, anyone knows if it's possible to add memory while configuring xserver-xorg to a video card that doesn't lack memory by itself?
[10:38] <LSD|Ninja> natalisushka: ? you want to upograde the VRAM on your video card?
[10:39] <areels>  FireHOL is good?
[10:39] <blame> DistroJockey: I can't find the name of the vnc/vino-server to disable it during boot, any tips?
[10:39] <yit41> actionparsnip: still no effect
[10:40] <yit41> i get the reading error
[10:40] <DistroJockey> blame: not really, sorry
[10:40] <Radit> does the command dpkg-scanpackages exist in hardy?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> nxvl: websearch for Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II
 yes
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> yit41: what messages do you get?
[10:40] <scoopex_> what about encrypted dvd`s, is there any way to play this?
[10:40] <blame> 	does anyone know how to disable vnc/vino-server during boot ?
[10:40] <yit41> actionparsnip: cant connect to server: reading error
 Is it possible
[10:41] <faileas> scoopex_: you'd need libdvdcss from the medibuntu repo
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> yit41: what protocol and what server you using?
[10:41] <LSD|Ninja> natalisushka: not as a general rule
[10:42] <smmagic> Hi, can someone tell me how to /home/eric/skulltag/skulltag: error while loading shared libraries: libfmod.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory fix that?
[10:42] <yit41> is it normal for ubuntu to produce sound from only one application at a time? for example, i'm on amarok playing song but my pidgin wont produce any sounds unless i stop amarok
 I didn't get an answer? can it be possible in a special "case" if not a "general rule" ?
[10:42] <DistroJockey> blame: does the following help?:  gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled false
[10:42] <yit41> actionparsnip: yahoo, msn and irc
[10:42] <LSD|Ninja> natalisushka: on a moidern consumer card, no
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> yit41: do one at a time, delete the other accounts and try one at a time adding as yougo
[10:43] <yit41> ok
[10:43] <scoopex_> what is medibuntu repo?
 How do I measure modernity of the card?
[10:43] <wols_> scoopex_: I already gave you the factoid for this
[10:43] <microwaver> I'm experiencing a weird problem with ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy. Sometimes it is if, when I type or I alt tab or different keystrokes one of the keys 'stuck' it is just repeated over and over. any ideas what creates this problem?
[10:43] <wols_> !medibuntu
[10:43] <Radit> why does this command not available: sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz ??
[10:43] <scoopex_> wols_: yeh, but the dvd is encrypted?
[10:44] <wols_> !dvd
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> scoopex_: whats the . for after scanpackages ?
[10:44] <LSD|Ninja> natalisushka: is it less than 10-15 years old?
[10:45] <scoopex_> !medibuntu
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> yit41: if you have a problem account, I use msn but not yahoo
[10:45] <Radit> why does this command not available: sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz ??
 Definitely
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Radit: whats the . for after scanpackages ?
[10:45] <natalisushka> I bought it 3 years ago
[10:45] <LSD|Ninja> natalisushka: then it's almost certainly non-upgradable
[10:45] <natalisushka> with a new laptop
[10:46] <Radit> ActionParsnip: I don't know.. i got it from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47751 can you please help?
[10:46] <scoopex_> ok, theres somthing i dont understand, "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu? what is medibuntu?
[10:47] <yit41> actionparsnip: still not working. it will work after some time if i'm not in the rush to use it
[10:47] <LSD|Ninja> VRAM-upgradable graphics cards were popular back then but it's pretty much extinct these days.
 Are u sure?
[10:47] <rhydar__> Radit | try executing the command in the folder where you have the *.gz file dowloaded
[10:48] <Radit> rhydar__: i will try, please wait..
[10:48] <Fritzel> I don't know the specifics but wouldn't interchangable vram have to be slower to compensate for uncertain connections?
[10:48] <Fritzel> dust in the socket and so forth
[10:48] <yit41> actionparcnip: the other day i unistalled and deleted the .purple because pidgin stopped responding. it was i think because of my laptop hanged. i think pidgin somewhat got stuck with musictracker and amarok
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Radit: i'd use: sudo dpkg --get-selections > /home/radit/box1.packages; gzip -9c /home/radit/box1.packages
[10:48] <Radit> output: sudo: dpkg-scanpackages: command not found
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Radit: makes it more readable
[10:49] <LSD|Ninja> natalisushka: workstation-class cards *might* still be upgradable but even then, the timing issues involved with having such high-bandwidth RAM in sockets would probably still be too great and so it too would most likely be soldered and non-upgradable
[10:49] <_eMaX_> is there a way to improve the preview in nautilus - if I want to increase like the size of a preview of PDFs, I can hit Ctrl+, but it doesn't render it better, just zooms in
[10:49] <yit41> is it normal for ubuntu to produce sound from only one application at a time? for example, i'm on amarok playing song but my pidgin wont produce any sounds unless i stop amarok
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> yit41: hmm strange, what msn server you using?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Radit: never done that really, I just redownload
[10:50] <yit41> actionsnip: the mesage says: Connection error from Notification server : Reading error
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> yit41: what server though, go to advanced account settings tab
[10:51] <yit41> actionparsnip; messenger.hotmail.com port 1863. not via HTTP method
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> messenger.hotmail.com port 1863
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> http method: gateway.messenger.hotmail.com
[10:51] <Radit> ActionParnsip: My internet connection is limited :-( i'll try that
[10:51] <Shezif> Hi!
[10:52] <dppd> i cannot upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 followed the guidelines, been helped by some of the users on this channel, but it still does not work...  ;-(
[10:52] <dppd> Should i just reinstall?
[10:52] <Shezif> I need help from someone that have a admin access to the ubuntu's irc channels
[10:52] <harrydg> keep your homedirs
[10:52] <faileas> hmm, anyone running virtualbox on hardy? i seem to be having problems getting the extentions disk
[10:52] <harrydg> backup your /etc
[10:52] <harrydg> and reinstall
[10:52] <harrydg> that's easiest
[10:52] <faileas> dppd: it might end up being easier
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> and backup /homeunless you were smart and put it on its own partition
[10:52] <dppd> hmm :-(
[10:53] <harrydg> i once upgraded from win95 to win98... THAT was hell! ;)
[10:53] <harrydg> you're trying to skip 3 versions.. :0
[10:53] <harrydg> ;)
[10:53] <Agnostic> harrydg, why upgrade ever?
[10:53] <faileas> Agnostic: why *not* upgrade?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> dppd: i always suggest clean install. Ive lost count the number of people coming in here moaning something is broken after an upgrade
[10:54] <Agnostic> faileas, *shrug* I still use mIRC 4.0. Its nice.
[10:54]  * faileas would, though he's cautious with them
[10:54] <crille> is there a simple command to install some extra gnome themes?
[10:54] <Radit> ActionParsnip: "sudo dpkg --get-selections > /home/radit/box1.packages; gzip -9c /home/radit/box1.packages" can you tell me the command if the deb packages are in: /home/radit/packages ?
[10:54] <yit41> is there any way that i could get my ubuntu on a real partition instead of wubi without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Radit: sorry man, ive no idea
[10:54] <faileas> yit41: lvpm... by the same guys who made wubi
[10:54] <harrydg> Agnostic: because you can
[10:55] <Radit> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks :-(
[10:55] <Agnostic> harrydg, Good reason I guess.
[10:55] <yit41> faileas: what is lvpm?
[10:55] <aurel42> Hi there. Is there a painless way to let Nautilus display previews of raw camera images (dcraw)?
[10:55] <faileas> yit41: how about using apt-on cd?
[10:55] <faileas> erf
[10:55] <faileas> i mean yit41: a series of scripts for moving wubi installs to real partitions
[10:56] <faileas> Radit: take a look at apt-on cd
[10:56] <Radit> faileas: aptoncd is buggy on heron i'm still recovering my debs
[10:56] <faileas> ahh
[10:56] <Radit> from aptoncd..
[10:56] <Kalamansi> hello :)
[10:56] <natalisushka> Guys, anyone knows how to connect to a VPN connection in command-line (already set with network-manager-pptp)
[10:56] <natalisushka> ?
[10:57] <Kalamansi> which one is stable?6.10,7.10 or 8?(ubuntu server and desktop) ? thanks
[10:57] <faileas> Kalamansi: stable in what sense?
[10:57] <yit41> faileas: ok. i have my ubuntu installed on drive D: via wubi. the drive is completely empty. if i want to transfer using the script, do i have to make a new partition which that would cost me to lose XP?
[10:57] <DistroJockey> natalisushka: I use  vpnc  (but it may be Cisco specific)
[10:57] <joaopinto> Kalamansi, they are all stable, if you mean LTS, 8.04 is the way to go
[10:57] <faileas> yit41: you wouldn't need to lose XP
[10:57] <davidooo> hi everybody
[10:57] <ari_stress> hi
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Kalamansi: they are all officially released
[10:58] <davidooo> I need help about rsync
[10:58] <joaopinto> yit41, you dont need to loose XP, but you will need enough free space to create the partition before the move
[10:58] <Kalamansi> joaopinto thankd.ill downlosd 8.04
 Cuz I want to connect to the internet using unix (non-graphical mode)
[10:58] <davidooo> anyone knows about rsync in ibuntu
[10:58] <babolat> how do i get my TVcard to work. installed TvTime already. I have Prolink Pixelview BT878
[10:59] <faileas> yit41: i'd defrag, use partedmagic (or your partition editor of choice) then LVPM to move
[10:59] <joaopinto> davidooo, just ask your question
[10:59] <babolat> !rsync | davidooo
[10:59] <yit41> i only have 80GB
[10:59] <jonix> "someone knowing how to setup ipodtouch to use it with ubuntu?"
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | jon
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | jonix
[10:59] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya.... i'm trying to use brasero
[11:00] <pvh_sa|wrk> and it says the medium (a DL DVD) is not writeable with the current set of plugins. this is 8.04 - anyone seen this?
[11:00] <DistroJockey> natalisushka: I use it to vpn to my work. It is a cli thing.
[11:00] <wols_> babolat: have you loaded the v4l drivers?
[11:00] <yit41> why does amarok wont produce any sound after i watch some videos on youtube? other apps like amarok still producing sound
[11:00] <davidooo> I have to make that pc1 sync with pc2
[11:00] <babolat> wols_: i haven't.. how?
[11:00] <wols_> babolat: bt878 iirc
 What is cli?
[11:01] <babolat> that's in a terminal, wols_?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !cli | natalisushka
[11:01] <cq> davidooo: make what sync, the whole PC, just user data, clone the harddrive, ... ?
[11:01] <DistroJockey> natalisushka: Comand Line Interface
[11:01] <wols_> babolat: it's a driver, not a program, use modprobe
[11:01] <DistroJockey> command^
[11:01] <davidooo> if I make a change in the pc1 the other pc2 make the same change
[11:01] <stevem> Does anyone know of an alternative to tsclient?  maybe something that supports tabs?  (it's the RDP I need more than anything)
[11:01] <DistroJockey> natalisushka: what you need basically :)
[11:01] <babolat> wols_: not really following here. sorry. care to walk me through?
[11:01] <davidooo> two pcs works with ubuntu 8
[11:02] <natalisushka> Oh ok :) English is just rich of abbreviation, hard to guess if u don't memories sm times
[11:02] <DistroJockey> natalisushka: true :)
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> yit41: you got msn ok on your pidgin now?
[11:02] <cq> davidooo: is this for backup, to use both at the same time... ? you need to give more information
[11:02] <matteo1990> hi all, i am having problem with wine dependencies, i complete removed it 10 min ago and i can't reinstall it because i get this message The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:02] <matteo1990>   wine: Depends: libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7) which is a virtual package.
[11:02] <matteo1990>         PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.14.12ubuntu3) but 1.14.5ubuntu16 is installed.
[11:03] <matteo1990> Resolving dependencies...
[11:03] <matteo1990> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
[11:03] <FloodBot1> matteo1990: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <matteo1990> Install the following packages:
[11:03] <davidooo> both at  the same time with ssh
[11:03] <frost> I have a problem with SiS S17012 does any one know how to fix it because i dont have Sound on ubuntu ?
[11:03] <davidooo> I make a change in pc1 pc2 have the same change
[11:03] <aurel42> Nautilus + dcraw + missing part = previews?
[11:03] <davidooo> only in this way
[11:03] <wols_> davidooo: simple ac97 driver. google for "k7s5a howto". it has the same audiochip
[11:04] <babolat> wols_: bash: bt878: command not found
[11:04] <davidooo> I don't want that pc2 if I make a change in pc2 pc1 change the smae
[11:04] <davidooo> only pc1 to pc2
[11:04] <cq> davidooo better off sharing the home filesystem
[11:04] <yit41> actionparsnip: no. at least it checked my mail
[11:04] <cq> but just the data files, or the operating system as well?
[11:04] <wols_> babolat: I told you it's not a command but a driver, you need to use modprobe to load it
[11:04] <frost> I have a problem with SiS S17012 does any one know how to fix it because i dont have Sound on ubuntu ? , Any idea ?
[11:04] <yit41> actionparsnip: and it's killing me that pidgin wont alert me since i got my amarok playing!
[11:04] <wols_> frost: simple ac97 driver. google for "k7s5a howto". it has the same audiochip
[11:04] <frost> thnx wols
[11:04] <babolat> i did modprobe bt878 iirc and no errors. it loaded right?
[11:05] <babolat> wols_:
[11:05] <davidooo> one pc is a server an the other client
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> yit41: the http method works flawlessly for me
[11:05] <cq> 7join #rsync
[11:05] <babolat> wols_: -linux:~$ modprobe bt878 iirc already done. but tvtime still says "No signal"
[11:06] <davidooo> cq I am in the rsync channel
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> babolat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935
[11:06] <simsx> anyone tell me better Fedora 9 Or Ubuntu ?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> babolat: don't usesudo gedit though, use gksudo gedit
[11:06] <smmagic> hi, error while loading shared libraries: libfmod.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory how do I fix that error?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> simsx: depends on personal preference.
[11:07] <babolat> looking, ActionParsnip
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> simsx: which is better. Coke or Pepsi?
[11:07] <simsx> Coke
[11:07] <yit41> actionparsnip: it will connect soon. everything was fine before this... it made me hate ubuntu!
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> simsx: neither is "better", some like one, some like the other
[11:07] <cq> coke is ubuntu, look at the color....
[11:07] <davidooo> cq
[11:08] <davidooo> send me a mp
[11:08] <yit41> actionparsnip: i'm on ubuntu because: my internet works fast, my laptop speakers sound alot better, great graphic with less memory, and i dont feel like lagging
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> yit41: im on KUbuntu, eeeXUbuntu and Mandriva
[11:09] <o0Chris0o> <--kubuntu
[11:09] <davidooo> anyone knows about rsync
[11:09] <shedflex> what's the best way to install XFCE into an existing 8.04 default install?
[11:09] <o0Chris0o> !rsync
[11:10] <simsx> and tell me what's differnet UBUNTU , XUBUNTU ? KUBUNTU
[11:10] <shedflex> !xfce
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> !xfce | shedflex
[11:10] <yit41> dont you guys feel like you also need windows no matter what??
[11:10] <areels> !iptables
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> yit41: no, I have zero windows systems
[11:10] <g0tcha> hey guys, im trying to use apt-get install apache2 but its giving me this msg: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:10] <areels> !firestarter