[06:44] <Athenon_> bazhang: hehe thanks.  it hasnt frozen in awhile....my friend suggested to change my mirror, and so far that seems to be working
[06:44] <jeeves__> ankit_, well, I guess anything is better than the freezing.  how do I install the the drivers?
[06:45] <ankit_> jeeves__: you can try uninstalling everything graphics related and then reinstalling the nvidia drivers to see if that helps... maybe some remenants from the various driver installs are causing problems?
[06:45] <Bad_Hacker> Anyone know of good open source driver for ATI Radeon 9600 Card.
[06:45] <help1234564321> hi I'm trying to play pogo games on ubuntu.... was able to install java <IP_ADDRESS> java applet starts but does not completely load (applet bail)
[06:46] <jeeves__> ankit_, I've tried that allready
[06:46] <ankit_> Bad_Hacker: the radeon drivers are pretty decent, arent they?
[06:46] <mlLK> anyone know how to exclude a path w/ du?
[06:47] <Maco10> Ubuntu piada
[06:47] <storm-zen> legend2440: http://paste.ubuntu.com/30812/  (thanks!)
[06:47] <help1234564321> can anyone help me?
[06:47] <bazhang> Maco10, do you have a support question?
[06:48] <student> how do I add users to groups via the command line?
[06:48] <Brome> 'gMorning all. I get the package management error "E: dpkg was interruped, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" However, when I do that I get "too man errors, stopping. dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252:process_queue: Assertion '!queuelen' Failed. It encounters lots of kde dependancy problems (kde4 I think). Can anybody help me?
[06:48] <Bad_Hacker> ankit_: are you talking about Proprietary Drivers? If so, then no, in my case.
[06:48] <genii> student: sudo usermod -G newgroupname -a username
[06:48] <storm-zen> student: Something like usermod, I believe.
[06:48] <blogi> bazhang: blogi, pcmcia card?----whats a pcmcia?
[06:49] <ankit_> Bad_Hacker: aren't the radeon drivers the open-source ones?
[06:49] <genii> student: The -a is ultra important. If you omit it then "newgroupname" will be the ONLY group the user will belong to
[06:49] <storm-zen> genii: I've learned that one the hard way... ... repeatedly.
[06:49] <genii> storm-zen: Those are lessons you don't forget easily :)
[06:50] <bazhang> blogi, the fact that it is not detected is not an especially good sign; there is nothing in lspci that I can see about it; and as you restarted with the card in (ie not hotplugging when system is running) not sure where to take this
[06:50] <Bad_Hacker> they are, but the one's from the ATI/AMD Crew, have issues.
[06:50] <ankit_> jeeves__: to install the nv driver, I think all you need is: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv", and then change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver section for your video card to say "nv"
[06:50] <help1234564321> does anyone know why pogo and ubuntu don't work?
[06:51] <bazhang> blogi, though if you do see eth0 what does sudo dhclient eth0 return in the terminal (paste output to paste.ubuntu.com , NOT here)
[06:51] <Bad_Hacker> ATI/AM = Proprietary Drivers and then you have your Open source drivers.
[06:51] <jeeves__> ankit_, thanks man.
[06:51] <ankit_> jeeves__: haha, I didn't even fix your problem...
[06:52] <blogi> bazhang, does it need any driver to detect of something?
[06:53] <bazhang> blogi, you can see eth0 in ifconfig, correct? then try sudo dhclient eth0 and paste output to paste.ubuntu.com (make sure ethernet cable is attached of course)
[06:53] <ankit_> Bad_Hacker: I heard good things about the proprietary drivers recently, but I guess not in this instance... I had an ATi Radeon 9600XT and the open source drivers worked fairly tolerably and let me run compiz at a fairly decent FPS.
[06:53] <blogi> ok
[06:53] <m0u5e> i would like to set my hardware volume control tab to control PCM rather than volume, what is the manual way to do this (config file anywhere?)
[06:54] <Bad_Hacker> nice for you.
[06:54] <blogi> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/30814/
[06:54] <m0u5e> weird
[06:54] <m0u5e> it works now
[06:54] <m0u5e> nvm guys :D
[06:54] <m0u5e> coming to #ubuntu must automatically fix stuff lol
[06:54] <ankit_> m0u5e: System -> Preferences -> Sound, default mixer tracks
[06:55] <m0u5e> ankit_: there seems to just have been a delay, thx though, it works now :D
[06:55] <Brome> Anybody? I'm afraid my whole dpkg is fried...
[06:55] <legend2440> storm-zen: sorry i can't tell much from that. not really familiar with Centos. have you tried googling   grub error 16?
[06:55] <bazhang> blogi, there is a lease; it should be connected to the internet now
[06:55] <m0u5e> ankit_: also, do you know how to set so my volume is relative to a percentage system, rather than each step being logarithmically louder?
[06:56] <blogi> bazhang, my eth0 is fine...but my new lan card wont detect
[06:56] <legend2440> storm-zen: perhaps someone in    channel    #centos  would know
[06:56] <bazhang> blogi, new lan card? wired?
[06:56] <raghu> hiiiiiiiiiiii im unable to take snapshot by pressing print screen
[06:57] <raghu> can someone help
[06:57] <blogi> bazhang, i have two lan card eth0 and it should be eth1 (my new lan card)
[06:57] <ankit_> m0u5e: I thought it was a linear percentage increase as opposed to logarithmic, but I'm not sure. the on-screen display makes it seem like it is.
[06:57] <bazhang> blogi, why do you need two ethernet cards if the first is working
[06:57] <blogi> bazhang, yes...wired for my local connection
[06:57] <Dedoimedo> STORM-ZEN do you have any question regarding centos - i can help ... :)
[06:57] <ankit_> raghu: what happens when you press the print screen button?
[06:57] <blogi> for my local connection :)
[06:58] <bazhang> blogi, not sure what you mean; are you doing ics?
[06:58] <m0u5e> ankit_: it is for pcm, but for some reason master seems to be using a logarithmic scale
[06:58] <blogi> whats ics?
[06:58] <bazhang> !ics | blogi
[06:59] <ankit_> m0u5e: I'm not sure... you can change only PCM, if that works for you
[06:59] <blogi> ahhh....no. i have another connection for local and for internet
[06:59] <bazhang> blogi, no idea what you are trying to do.
[06:59] <blogi> its so tiresome to change between cables just to switch to local and internet..hehehe
[07:00] <m0u5e> ankit_: yeah i guess it works for now... just don't understand why it would ever be set to a log scale, not very practical for users
[07:00] <bazhang> blogi, good luck to you.
[07:00] <blogi> hehehe...it wont work that way?
[07:00] <ankit_> m0u5e: because we all love exponents!
[07:01] <m0u5e> lol
[07:01] <storm-zen> Dedoimedo: Yes.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/30812/  help greatly appreciated!!
[07:01] <rexus> hi guys, can i install firefox 2 altogether with firefox 3 in the same system?
[07:01] <student> genii, storm-zen: thanks
[07:01] <storm-zen> legend2440: Yes, tried googling error 16.  Was hoping for something common to linux.
[07:01] <ankit_> rexus: yes.
[07:01] <fairywings> i think so rexus. just make sure to create a new directory in /opt for it
[07:01] <genii> student: You're welcome. Use wisely :)
[07:01] <arooni> is there a way to make audacious gigantic?  also is there a way for it to have cool visualization effects (like winamp does .. that can full screen or big ? )?
[07:02] <rexus> so I cannot use the synaptic package manager then?
[07:02] <ankit_> rexus: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[07:02] <havocstorm> does anyone else have the problem where their firefox crashes when trying to play falsh files?
[07:02] <ankit_> rexus: or search for firefox-2 in synaptic, if you prefer the GUI
[07:02] <bazhang> blogi, please address questions in the channel so others can help; as I said I have no idea how to help you at this point. Good Luck.
[07:03] <rexus> ankit_ I already have firefox 3 installed , currently I'm using 8.04
[07:03] <blogi> ohhh...i thought it would be a driver problem :(
[07:03] <ankit_> rexus: I'm fairly sure if you install the firefox-2 package, you can choose between firefox 2 and 3... they should have different entries in the Applications -> Internet menu
[07:04] <ankit_> rexus: I'm actually just installing firefox-2 myself
[07:05] <Raheem> !inf Opera
[07:05] <Raheem> !opera
[07:05] <cxo> Anyone running the ati driver, get a lockup when they logoff?
[07:05] <rexus> ankit_, are you using 8.04 as well?
[07:05] <ankit_> rexus: yes
[07:05] <ankit_> rexus: if you wait for a minute, I'll tell you how the install goes
[07:06] <rexus> ankit_: how do you installed the firefox 2? using the synaptic?
[07:06] <rexus> ankit_: I can wait
[07:06] <bazhang> !away > gardar`afk
[07:06] <akhil_> Is there any calculator which i can add to panel on Ubuntu 8.04? I have to  open gnome-calculator every time i want to do a calculation
[07:07] <akhil_> or probably something like Sticky notes
[07:07] <Bad_Hacker> brb
[07:07] <wbmj> akhil: you can add gnome-calculator
[07:07] <ankit_> rexus: works great, I can choose between firefox-2 and firefox-3 in the menu, firefox-3 is still the default. the settings are shared between them... even tab sessions, which is pretty cool.
[07:07] <akhil_> wbmj, Is there any option to always load it in scientific mode?
[07:07] <icesword> nickrud, hi, MR. Rudnick
[07:08] <wbmj> akhil: I believe it is in edit preferences
[07:08] <akhil_> wbmj, Thanks :)
[07:08] <wbmj> akhil:np
[07:08] <akhil_> wbmj, There is not Edit -> Preferences
[07:08] <ryan_> anyone know how to change permissions on a themes folder
[07:08] <akhil_> ** no
[07:08] <rexus> ankit_: did you install it using synaptic?
[07:09] <ryan_> no
[07:09] <ankit_> rexus: no, I used the command-line and apt-get, but it's the same thing... synaptic is just a front-end for apt-get, so you can use either.
[07:09] <osmosis> how can I install just a single packages from intrepid? (Im on hardy)
[07:09] <jacobu> Anybody know how to save the current configuration as set by xrandr?
[07:10] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that osmosis
[07:10] <amenado> rexus-> look into using  update-alternatives  for allowing you to have choices of which firefox to use
[07:10] <ryan_> i am just try to install a theme but i cannot copy or paste into the themes folder
[07:10] <wbmj> ryan_: left click on folder ;;;; go to properties
[07:10] <ryan_> ok
[07:10] <ryan_> im there
[07:10] <ankit_> amenado: that's only if he wants to change the default, otherwise just installing should be fine to use both
[07:10] <rexus> amenado: where is that update-alternatives?
[07:10] <wbmj> ryan_ most themes are drag and drop
[07:11] <ankit_> rexus: do you want firefox-2 to be your default browser?
[07:11] <Bubsy> does anyone know a good guide for setting up tv tuner cards?
[07:11] <ryan_> ok i do that and then nothing happens
[07:11] <ryan_> just to let u know im new but rlly intrested in ubuntu
[07:11] <amenado> ankit_-> using update-alternatives gives a cleaner way to choose which firefox to use does it not?
[07:11] <rexus> ankit_: no..
[07:12] <bazhang> ryan_, then it is a poorly written theme; try imetal for gnome from gnome-look.org
[07:12] <amenado> rexus-> man update-alternatives or google for how create the menu choices..i dont know the details off hand
[07:12] <ankit_> amenado: no, installing the firefox-3 and firefox-2 packages in 8.04 gives two seperate options in the menu, so you can choose between... update-alternatives doesn't even work with firefox actually
[07:13] <ankit_> rexus: then you don't need to tinker update-alternatives. just install firefox-2 and then you should be fine.
[07:13] <amenado> ankit_-> why would it not work, is the symlinks pointing to the correct firefox?
[07:13] <ryan_> ok i  will i am using Hardy-Mariux 2.0
[07:13] <rexus> ankit_: let me try your way first
[07:13] <bazhang> ryan_, what distro is that
[07:13] <ryan_> ubuntu hardy 8.04
[07:14] <wbmj> ankit : if you open Preferred Applications ... select custom and change the command to firefox-2 it will be the default
[07:14] <bazhang> oh the theme
[07:14] <ankit_> amenado: I tried a update-alternatives firefox and it said no alternatives
[07:14] <ankit_> amenado: wbmj's solution is much easier and better.
[07:14] <ankit_> wbmj: good point, thanks.
[07:15] <wbmj> ankit_;Np
[07:15] <kiosk_> M IRC
[07:15] <amenado> ankit_-> i think its because you didnt configure it right and not pointing to the correct symlink..seems all this update-alternative is managing the symlinks..
[07:15] <ua_> how to get the package lists offline
[07:16] <Brome> Hello. I get the package management error "E: dpkg was interruped, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" However, when I do that I get "too man errors, stopping. dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252:process_queue: Assertion '!queuelen' Failed. It encounters lots of kde dependancy problems (kde4 I think). Can anybody help me?
[07:16] <cool> HI  HOW CAN  I SETUP WEB CAM????
[07:16] <rexus> this synaptic and apt things made my migration from FC6 faster :)
[07:16] <bazhang> !webcams | cool
[07:16] <ankit_> cool: by turning off caps lock, for starters
[07:16] <aaronwi> will ubuntu use all 4 cores in a quad core processor?
[07:16] <ryan_> well anyway it was an ok theme so i will just look for a better 1
[07:16] <ryan_> thanks a bunch tho
[07:16] <bazhang> np
[07:17] <Bubsy> If my tv card doesn't show up in lspci, is it broken?
[07:17] <ankit_> amenado: I installed from the packages, and the symlinks are working
[07:17] <genii> Bubsy: Not if it's for instnce USB
[07:17] <ankit_> amenado: it doesn't matter though, wbmj's way is better anyway
[07:17] <Bubsy> No, genii, it's a pci card
[07:18] <uviek_s> hallo
[07:18] <cool> I HAVE A USB WEB  CAM HOW CAN I SET IT UP???
[07:18] <uviek_s> #jakarta
[07:18] <SNuxoll> !caps | cool
[07:18] <dlozarie> hi all. how do I use the stack functionality of AWN?
[07:19] <bazhang> cool, read the link I gave you
[07:19] <genii> Bubsy: It's conceivable it has some controller which does not appear to the pci bus as a viable device. Some winmodems for instance are like this.
[07:19] <bazhang> cool, and dont use caps
[07:19] <cool> ok
[07:19] <dlozarie> Has anyone else OS X-ified their desktop with instructions from lifehacker.com?
[07:20] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> whats it like?
[07:20] <bazhang> looks like os x
[07:20] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> il check it out
[07:21] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> oh yea
[07:21] <dlozarie> I like it. One question, though: in AWN, there's this stacks thing and it does absolutely nothing. How do I use it?
[07:21] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> does anyone know why ubnutu has issues connecting to windows xop ad-hoc networks?
[07:21] <tv7497> guys during installation of vmware i got this error and the installation aborted any idea what went wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/30818/
[07:21] <dlozarie> Tsukasa, because XP sucks. :D
[07:22] <keri> how  can i make  digikam  the default  camera detection program  instead of fspot. or it is easier to just delete fspot?
[07:23] <tv7497> anyone ??? i contacted #vmware channel they said better u ask in ubuntu  channel
[07:23] <dlozarie> in AWN, there's this stacks thing and it does absolutely nothing. How do I use it?
[07:23] <Thanatos____> I have hardy with GNOME, is there a package I can install to make it so I have kubuntu? and easily switch back and forth?
[07:25] <dunnen> kubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <cxo> How do i get the Computer, Home and Trash icons on the desktop?
[07:26] <bazhang> Thanatos____, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; change in login window sessions
[07:26] <Thanatos____> cxo Open the places menu, and drag the icon onto the desktop
[07:26] <cool> no did not work  says The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required
[07:26] <icesword> ..
[07:27] <Thanatos____> bazhang, Thanks. I love this community
[07:27] <dunnen> cxo, go to applications/system tools/configuration editor
[07:27] <legend2440> cxo: in terminal    gconf-editor     browse to   /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[07:27] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> does anyone know why my ubuntu hardy cannot connect to a windows ad hoc network (created using ipw) and cannot create an adhoc network, the netowkr card is a ipw3945abg
[07:27] <bazhang> np :)
[07:27] <dunnen> damn legend beat me to it
[07:28] <rexus> guys, while booting, in fedora I can see the services being turned on, is there any way I can do the same in ubuntu?
[07:28] <bazhang> rexus, remove quiet and splash from boot parameters
[07:28] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: I uninstalled the "proprietary drivers" so its running without the 3D fx's. Now, I will check to see if the "blank" bug will happen? It's now a waiting game?
[07:28] <rexus> where can i find the boot parameters?
[07:29] <Bubsy> genii: does that mean the card won't work?
[07:29] <dlozarie> nvm, figured the stacks thing out. one more question: how come my icons are doubled in AWN? like, if i have Filezilla open it shows two filezilla icons even though only one window is really open?
[07:29] <bazhang> Bad_Hacker, good luck; will troubleshoot more if that does not do it
[07:29] <cxo> thanks
[07:29] <genii> Bubsy: I would say so, yes
[07:29] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: do you ahve the link to that osX thing u were talkign about earlier?
[07:29] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie, hold on a sec.
[07:29] <bazhang> rexus, in grub hit e to edit the kernel you are booting near the bottom of the list
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dw found it
[07:30] <Bad_Hacker> bazhang: sure thing, also, will be looking for some real good open source drivers not from ati/amd!!!
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> thought it wud be in the archives but its still th hompage
[07:30] <sirjoebob> quit
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> WOW THAT IS COOO
[07:30] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> cool
[07:30] <rexus> bazhang, it means that I have to restart my laptop?
[07:31] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie, it is isn't it? Even the fonts were changed. This is fricking awesome.
[07:31] <bazhang> rexus, to see the setup sequence on boot? do you need to boot to see the boot sequence? is that your question?
[07:31] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: was it hard or require many downlaods?
[07:31] <dlozarie> anyway do you guys know exactly why AWN doubles my icons?like, if i have Filezilla open it shows two filezilla icons even though only one window is really open?
[07:32] <sirjoebob> hello all. i am having some wireless problems. i can connect to almost any network just fine but i cant connect to networks with weaker signals. i could when i was running windows and i know the networks are live, just wont connect when signal is weaker. any ideas?
[07:32] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie only four dloads, took less than 30 mins to dload all four files. It's a painless job provided you follow the instructions concisely. :D
[07:32] <Flannel> dlozarie: Do you have two ... [these are my active windows] thigns in your dock?
[07:33] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: 30 minutes to download? what speed, im going at 7k ='(
[07:33] <abcdunnen> a
[07:33] <dlozarie> Flannel: well for example I have one filezilla window open. Two filezilla icons appear in my dock.
[07:34] <Flannel> dlozarie: Right, thats not what I asked.  In the dock (go to dock config, or whatever) check to see if you have two dock components that are displaying your active window
[07:34] <dlozarie> Tuskasa-Ujiie: just check out the tutorial page, it shouldn't take *too* long. :D
[07:34] <dlozarie> Flannel: oh, sorry. :) okay, thanks.
[07:34] <Flannel> dlozarie: If you open up another app, does it show FZ FZ [other app] [otherapp]? or FZ [otherapp] FZ [otherapp]?
[07:34] <russ> Does anybody know how to get midi files to play on ubuntu?
[07:35] <bazhang> !midi
[07:35] <m0u5e> the m1330's geforce 8400m go is slow when using compiz transformations after a while of idle time, is there a way bump up my default nvidia clock speed?
[07:35] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: NO CHANCE IM DOWNLOADING THAT TONIGHT
[07:35] <russ> bazhang thanks I'll check it out
[07:35] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie: some other time then. lol :)
[07:35] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> dlozarie: ty for showing me, ill try later
[07:35] <dlozarie> Flannel: FZ [otherapp] FZ [otherapp], but I fixed it now. thanks dude! :)
[07:36] <Tsukasa-Ujiie> but still, any one have experience with adhoc in ubuntu?
[07:36] <dlozarie> Tsukasa-Ujiie: NP
[07:37] <Bsims> I run envyng on ubuntu and it broke following the kernel updates how do I fix it
[07:38] <dunnen> just use the old kernel
[07:38] <dunnen> that is the easiest way
[07:38] <Bsims> I suppose
[07:38] <Bsims> but my real annoyance is I shouldn't have to
[07:38] <dunnen> yea i know
[07:38] <dunnen> sorry i can't give a better answer
[07:39]  * Bsims nods thanks anyway
[07:39] <Flannel> Bsims: Envy will do that, thats just the nature of the beast
[07:39] <nickrud> Bsims you need to run envy for each upgrade iirc
[07:39] <Bsims> I ran envy again
[07:40] <Bsims> it said I already had the latest
[07:40] <cool> no  cant get cam 2 work
[07:40] <legend2440> m0u5e: check out   nvclock and   nvclock-gtk   in synaptic       Allows you to overclock your nVidia card under GNU/Linux
[07:40] <dlc> does ubuntu amd raid
[07:40] <m0u5e> legend2440: it wont let me set the speedstep clock freqs though, compiz is fast once my gpu has moved out of its idle state, but waking up is painful
[07:42] <cool> any thing like wine and free that works  better thane wine
[07:42] <nickrud> cool virtualbox or vmware, if you have xp to install in it
[07:43] <cool> no on linux
[07:44] <cool> any thing that fix borken cam   my  cam  wors on  wiin need it to work on linux
[07:45] <giacomo> where do i add simple scripts that i'd like to run from the terminal without typing the path to out?
[07:45] <Flannel> giacomo: ~/bin
[07:46] <genii> Flannel: Hehe nice answer
[07:46] <Flannel> genii: its true
[07:46] <genii> Flannel: Local bin, yup
[07:46] <kuber_> can anyone help me
[07:46] <tv7497> guys little bit help i tried to install vmware it gets aborted http://paste.ubuntu.com/30825/ :)
[07:46] <kuber_> i am a new user for ubuntu
[07:46] <Flannel> !ask | kuber_
[07:46] <bazhang> kuber_, need a question
[07:46] <R0b0t1> What is the console command to view a PDF file? (Much like type 'totem FILE' plays a file in totem)
[07:47] <kuber_> how can i install updates to ubuntu 5
[07:47] <kuber_> can anyone suggest ne
[07:47] <tv7497> bazhang: Flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/30825/  error during installation of vmware little help sir ?
[07:47] <bazhang> kuber_, you cant
[07:47] <kuber_> how can i update ubuntu 5 to latest version
[07:48]  * Bsims smiles solved my own problem
[07:48] <bazhang> kuber_, fresh install
[07:48] <bazhang> Bsims, how
[07:48] <R0b0t1> What is the console command to view a PDF file? (Much like type 'totem FILE' plays a file in totem)
[07:48] <ankit_> kuber_: fresh install is definitely the easiest way.
[07:48] <Bsims> bazhang: I had forced the newest nvidia drives
[07:48] <arrenlex> R0b0t1: On gnome, "evince"
[07:48] <Bsims> I let it pick the older ones in envy and it worked
[07:48] <bazhang> Bsims, thanks
[07:48] <kuber_> ya i have already installed 5.... version and i need latest version to install in already installed computer
[07:48] <giacomo> i keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libssh.so"  is it missing?  where should it be?
[07:48] <dorian> hey, does anyone in here know offhand about PAM/LDAP? specifically what happened to /etc/libnss-ldap.conf and /etc/pam_ldap.conf?
[07:49] <Flannel> tv7497: I have no idea when it comes to vmware.  You might try #vmware, they may be able to help.
[07:49] <arrenlex> Whoops, left rich formatting on, sorry everyone >_<
[07:49] <Bsims> bazhang: and to prove it 2.6.24-20-generic and nvidia version 173.14.09
[07:49] <kuber_> how to download and install latest version?
[07:49] <Flannel> kuber_: You can download 8.04 and then burn it with 5.x
[07:49] <Bsims> kuber_: the version you have is too old to upgrade
[07:49] <kuber_> now i have broadband internet connection
[07:49] <Flannel> kuber_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation follow the "standard installation" steps at the top of that page
[07:49] <k1gwb> Has anyone else had a problem in 8.04 with firefox 3.0 (but not 2.0) working fine for about 20-30 mins then having to be restarted or else it just sits there trying to load forever?
[07:50] <russ> R0b0t1 in general you can type "apropos pdf" to find things related to pdf - try ghostview
[07:50] <R0b0t1> Someone told me, but thank you.
[07:50] <R0b0t1> 'evince'
[07:50] <Bsims> russ: man -k does the same thing and is easier to type <g>
[07:50] <Flannel> Bsims: thats not true, it'd just be easier for him to reinstall than upgrade a few times.
[07:50] <kuber_> cant i download through internet and install it
[07:50] <tanju> you should
[07:50] <Flannel> kuber_: Yes, thats what that page walks you through doing.
[07:50] <Bsims> Flannel: Hrm I didnt think upgrading more than a one release was considered smart
[07:51] <Bsims> Wasn't on Debian
[07:51] <arrenlex> giacomo: I don't even have libssh.so on my system, I have libssh2.so. What software are you trying to run\how old is it?
[07:51] <russ> Bsims learn something every day ...
[07:51] <Flannel> Bsims: You can't upgrade more than one release at a time.  But you upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, to 6.06, to 8.04 (or 5.10 to 6.06 to 8.04, if he's on 5.10 currently)
[07:51]  * Bsims nods true enough
[07:52] <phichidev> hi
[07:52] <kuber_> sir, in my computer ubuntu 5.10 mysql is also not installed
[07:52] <kuber_> how to installed it
[07:52] <kuber_> please suggest
[07:52] <Bsims> russ: Get screen if you spend a lot of time in a terminal
[07:52] <tv7497> Flannel: k sir will ask them again they said to go to ubuntu channel  last time
[07:52] <Bsims> kuber_: open synaptic
[07:52] <Flannel> kuber_: You'll be able to install it once you upgrade.
[07:52] <giacomo> arrenlex: i have libssh.so in my /usr/lib
[07:52] <simi> hi, i compiled my own kernel(build my drivers and other required module into kernel), i tried 3 difrent .configure (in some i do not disable any modules) Problem is that i do not have sound or network driver
[07:52] <giacomo> im looking into why it's giving me trouble
[07:52] <kuber_> from where to open synaptic
[07:53] <kuber_> i am a new for this opearing system
[07:53] <Bsims> add programs
[07:53] <simi> i need help to diagnostic my problem
[07:53] <Flannel> kuber_: don't worry about synaptic, worry about upgrading first.  Synaptic won't work, and it won't matter after you reinstall either.
[07:53] <arrenlex> giacomo: Do you? Where did it come from? What does "dpkg -S libssh.so" say?
[07:53] <Flannel> Bsims: Repos for EOL versions aren't around anymore.
[07:53] <arrenlex> giacomo: What does "file /usr/lib/libssh.so" say?
[07:53] <Bsims> I don't think the version you want is packaged for your release
[07:53] <Bsims> Ah
[07:53] <kuber_> oh!
[07:53] <Flannel> kuber_: Upgrade first, then worry about mysql
[07:53] <kuber_> then my first step is to update the version of ubuntu
[07:53] <kuber_> its ok
[07:53]  * Bsims nods
[07:53] <Flannel> kuber_: yep
[07:54] <kuber_> sir i didnt have the update cd
[07:54] <simi> anyone compiled  a custom kernel here?
[07:54] <Flannel> kuber_: Do you have a blank CD?
[07:54] <cordoban> #ubuntu-gr
[07:54] <arrenlex> simi: I have, what's your question?
[07:54] <kuber_> is it available in nepal
[07:54] <kuber_> ya
[07:54] <simi> hi, i compiled my own kernel(build my drivers and other required module into kernel), i tried 3 difrent .configure (in some i do not disable any modules) Problem is that i do not have sound or network driver
[07:54] <giacomo> arrenlex: it says: "broken sybolic link to 'usr/local/lib/libssh.so'
[07:54] <Flannel> kuber_: It is. http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[07:54] <Bsims> Flannel: ya ever use screen?
[07:55] <Flannel> Bsims: I'm using it right now.
[07:55] <arrenlex> giacomo: So in other words, you tried to install it manually, and you didn't do it right. :)
[07:55] <Bsims> Flannel: http://home.insightbb.com/~bmsims1/Scripts/Screenrc.html
[07:55] <Bsims> Take a look at my screenrc and see if you like it
[07:55] <giacomo> arrenlex: i failed?!?!?!
[07:55] <Flannel> Bsims: (old archives are technically still around, just moved to a single server for archival purposes)
[07:55] <kuber_> which version i have to download sir?>
[07:55]  * Bsims nods noted
[07:55] <arrenlex> giacomo: Well, your symlink is broken, that doesn't sound like success to me.
[07:55] <kuber_> desktop edition or server edition?
[07:55] <Flannel> kuber_: desktop
[07:55] <Bsims> desktop will work
[07:56] <cwillu> giacomo, it looks like you tried to install it by hand (not via apt or synaptic), or build it from source
[07:56] <kuber_> ok
[07:56]  * Bsims grrs and considers filing a minor bug about nvidia-settings... should ask for sudo password
[07:56] <cwillu> simi, did you do make oldconfig?
[07:57] <giacomo> well how might i be able to install this libssh.so without so much failure?
[07:57] <cwillu> Bsims, you can just run it with a parameter in your login script, and it'll work without modifying xorg
[07:57] <kuber_> oh its too large
[07:57] <kuber_> in size
[07:57] <arrenlex> giacomo: First of all, what software do you need it for? Secondly, what does "file /usr/local/lib/libssh.so" say/
[07:58] <cwillu> giacomo, what do you need it for?
[07:58] <simi> cwillu: yes, i do that one time, other time configured manualy the .config because the menu config  saved a file with fewer lines
[07:58] <giacomo> ahhh, it can't open it... (no such file or directory)
[07:59] <arrenlex> giacomo: What software do you need it for?
[07:59] <cwillu> simi, which kernel are you compiling?  (and as long as I'm asking, why are you compiling a kernel?)
[07:59] <kuber_> sir i think canonical provides free cd
[07:59] <simi> cwillu: can you tell me what logs should i look in , what coomands to do to find out what could be the problem
[07:59] <kuber_> can i get that latest ubunt from their?
[07:59] <Bsims> cwillu: its not even that, its editing a menu item
[07:59] <ujos> hello
[07:59] <bazhang> kuber_, yes from shipit
[07:59] <cwillu> giacomo, libssh2 is probably the package you need
[07:59] <simi> cwillu: the 2.6.24 from hard repos
[07:59] <arrenlex> !hu | ujos
[08:00] <arrenlex> !hi | ujos
[08:00] <arrenlex> lol
[08:00] <Bsims> kuber_: Yess adn they will mail it to you free of charge
[08:00] <kuber_> please provide their url
[08:00] <kuber_> so that i can order
[08:00] <giacomo> arrenlex: i was messing around with hydra,
[08:00] <Flannel> !np | kuber_
[08:00] <Ben-G-> Man Ubuntu/Linux is OWNAGE //sry for spam ^^
[08:00] <Bsims> kuber_: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <Flannel> kuber_: You might ask the nepali Loco team, they might be able to get you one sooner.
[08:00] <cwillu> giacomo, if you're trying to compile a package that's not in the repositories, try to install all of its dependencies via synaptic as much as possible
[08:01] <cwillu> giacomo, so for instance, if it needs libssh2, then you'd search for that in synaptic, and install any -dev packages you find
[08:01] <kuber_> thanks for your help
[08:01] <cwillu> giacomo, libssh2-1-dev and libssh-2-dev, in this case
[08:01] <giacomo> cwillu: one of hydra's dependencies is libssh v0.11
[08:01] <simi> cwillu: i compile a kernel to build my driver in to increase the performance
[08:01] <giacomo> i think i have those installed already cwillu
[08:01] <cwillu> giacomo, .11 exactly, or just that or better?
[08:02] <giacomo> exactly cwillu
[08:02] <cwillu> which?
[08:02] <Bsims> giacomo: also apt-get install checkinstall
[08:02] <giacomo> v0.11
[08:02] <russ> bazhang timidity works just fine thanks
[08:02] <cwillu> simi, where did you get the idea that compiling your own kernel would increase performance?
[08:02] <Bsims> giacomo: it will make you a deb
[08:02] <cwillu> simi, i.e., are you adding any patches?
[08:02] <giacomo> bsims, i've already run make install, will it matter at this point?
[08:02] <bazhang> np
[08:02] <cwillu> Bsims, giacomo, try to stay away from checkinstall, it's deprecated as far as I know
[08:03] <Bsims> giacomo: Hrm might
[08:03] <cwillu> giacomo, do you know that it won't work with libssh2-1-dev?
[08:03] <TAT> HAY CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT
[08:03] <giacomo> i dont think so... i just need the libssh.so... i guess i could just download it and put it in the right place
[08:03] <simi> cwillu: i do not add patches just my drivers like scsi acpi  VFAT, FUSE i build them into the kernel,
[08:03] <Bsims> in fact probly giacomo
[08:03] <TAT> sorry about the caps
[08:03] <bazhang> TAT, no caps
[08:03] <Bsims> giacomo: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make
[08:03] <bazhang> TAT, need a question
[08:03] <simi> cwillu: maybe i should seitch to gentoo
[08:03] <aaa> 我靠 不会全是老外把 没人会说中文
[08:03] <cwillu> simi, there's no practical difference between the performance of using modules vs the performance of compiling them straight in,
[08:04] <bazhang> !cn | aaa
[08:04] <giacomo> cwillu: i KNOW that it needs libssh v0.11
[08:04] <Bsims> giacomo: and then run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[08:04] <cwillu> simi, except that when you compile them in, you're forced to use that memory, which may be a waste in many many cases
[08:04] <aaa> 33ks
[08:04] <bazhang> np
[08:04] <tv7497> bazhang: my server is broken :'(
[08:04] <simi> cwillu: but at boot speed? that modules are loaded at boot speed, and it must be some slight performance if i optimize the kernel for my intel pentium cpu
[08:05] <Bsims> giacomo: try make uninstall and then follow the instructions in the link I sent you
[08:05] <cwillu> simi, not really, no
[08:05] <cwillu> simi, the generic kernel already has pentium optimizations in
[08:05] <bazhang> TAT, ask questions in channel not in PM; that way others can help too
[08:05] <TAT> is there any other salutions besides vmware
[08:06] <cwillu> and at boot speed, there's at most a second or two's difference in not using an initrd (which you'll probably still be using, to support any other hardware you may add)
[08:06] <TAT> it says it wont work on my system
[08:06] <bazhang> !vm | TAT
[08:06] <Muntrue> Good morning
[08:06] <arrenlex> simi: lol, are you trying to make your system faster by recompiling your kernel? Honestly, it's the gentoo condradiction... any microscopic gains in performance will be cancelled out a hundred times by the hour you spend compiling it. The kernel is already very optimised; don't bother, it doesn't help.
[08:06] <Muntrue> Anyone know of a way to change application titles ?
[08:06] <simi> cwillu:  from the .config of the generic kernel it is not optimized for pentium
[08:06] <cwillu> simi, ubuntu's -generic kernel is, yes
[08:07] <sirex> when a game such as enemy territory crashes (or in m case, trys a res you dont have) and you kill the process, you lose control of your mouse. is there a command you can do to regain control of it ?
[08:07] <TAT> were do i go about geting kqem and the others is it on the ubuntu web site or shall i google it
[08:07] <PucKid> good morning (:
[08:07] <Bsims> sirex: ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X... thats kind of a crude way to do it though
[08:07] <arrenlex> !kqemu | TAT
[08:07] <sirex> yea, that's what im doing at the moment, but it is a bit, erm, crude.
[08:07] <cwillu> sirex, Bsims there's a command you can turn on to force ungrab (ctrl+alt+* or something)
[08:08] <cwillu> there's probably a util to do it too, although I can't recall the name right now
[08:08] <ffiarpg> I am currently trying to get my Tablet PC functions working properly in Linux to take notes in college. I use a Gateway E-295C (C-140x) Tablet PC and I am currently running Ubuntu 8.04. I have tried a few things from several tutorials on line without any luck. If anyone has any experience with this I would greatly appreciate it as it is the only reason I still require Vista.
[08:08] <Bsims> hrm dunno
[08:08]  * Bsims is off for a bit
[08:08] <TAT> is it an installer perhaps not to good with this terminal stuff atm..
[08:08] <Muntrue> Anyone know of a way to change application titles ?
[08:09] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: I run linux successfully on my tablet; I had to mess with xorg.conf a while to do it though.
[08:09] <Lvl21nerd> someone help me out with Teamspeak on ubuntu 8.04?
[08:09] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Do you have any experience\familiarity with the xorg.conf file?
[08:09] <sirex> ok ill crash it now and stab buttons see what works
[08:10] <ffiarpg> arrenlex I have tried adding a few entries, Input Devices, and a few things to the server layout section as well
[08:10] <simi> is mysql requird in kubuntu? who uses it? can i stop it to start or remove it?
[08:10] <Kitu> normally yes simi
[08:10] <cwillu> giacomo, hydra-5.4?
[08:11] <tv7497> guys me using a lamp home server for 2 and a half month nothing went wrong in this period for past few days nothing seems to work i thought must be with DYDNS but even http://ip address is not working really need help guys plz help if it works kindly info me http://tv.kicks-ass.org/tv  or http://<IP_ADDRESS>/tv
[08:11] <anparks> how can i turn off my monitor from the terminal?
[08:11] <cwillu> anparks, man vbetool
[08:11] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: This is the xorg.conf file that works for me... I think you only care about the stuff after DRI mode 0666. Let me know if you need some more help. http://arrenlex.ls.la/xorg.conf
[08:11] <ffiarpg> arrenlex one guide suggested i add one for stylus, eraser, and one other that i forget atm, another guide says that 8.04 only requires the stylus entry, one guide says that the device is /dev/input/wacom, another says it is dev/SS04 or something, i can check bookmarks if need be.
[08:11] <cwillu> anparks, and DISPLAY=:0 xset, man xset
[08:11] <Muntrue> Anyone know of a way to change application titles ?
[08:11] <ffiarpg> arrenlex ill give that a quick look thanks for uploading it
[08:12] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Actually that page doesn't load for me, does it load for you?
[08:12] <ffiarpg> arrenlex it doesnt :P
[08:12] <Kitu> tv7497,  only http://ip works ?
[08:12] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: http://pastebin.ca/1084126
[08:12] <ffiarpg> arrenlex what brand of tablet pc do you use? does it use a wacom Penabled pen? Did you have to install wacom-tools
[08:13] <sirex> i've tried ctrl-alt- and everykey on the keyboard. nothign got mouse back
[08:13] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: It's a toshiba r20. Yes, the pen is wacom. I had to install\upgrade wacom-tools to get pen rotation working.
[08:13] <giacomo> cwillu: c
[08:13] <Kitu> tv7497, you don't have domain name ?
[08:13] <ffiarpg> arrenlex did you have to install or update anything to get simple cursor movement working or only xorg.conf editing?
[08:13] <tv7497> Kitu: http://<IP_ADDRESS>  what i didnt get you i hand a domain name in dydns
[08:14] <Kitu> i must understand bad
[08:14] <tv7497> had*
[08:14] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: It was a while ago but I think it was only xorg.conf.
[08:14] <d343k> hey can anyone help me with grub images
[08:14] <Kitu> hum
[08:14] <Imaginal> I have VMware server on 8.04, but can't get internet on the virtual machine (host has wireless). Will someone walk me through this?
[08:14] <d343k> it wont read the file i got loaded on there
[08:14] <d343k> and it is a jpeg
[08:15] <Kitu> tv7497, you can ping this ip ?
[08:15] <d343k> [Kitu PING reply]: 1sec
[08:15] <tv7497> Kitu: karthik@karthik-desktop:~$ ping tv.kicks-ass.org
[08:15] <tv7497> PING tv.kicks-ass.org (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:15] <tv7497> 64 bytes from ABTS-KK-Dynamic-<IP_ADDRESS>.airtelbroadband.in (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.79 ms
[08:16] <coz_> d343k, there is a gui app named startup manager that can help with installing grub images
[08:16] <tv7497> sorry!!!!
[08:16] <Kitu> [09:15:59] <tv7497> PING tv.kicks-ass.org (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:16] <d343k> i got that start up manager
[08:16] <d343k> thats where i did it
[08:16] <tv7497> Kitu: does that mean it works
[08:16] <ffiarpg> arrenlex im sorry i dont remember what i did, but i was somehow able to type something in the terminal to see coordinates updated instantly of what my tablet pen was doing, it did not work when i said the pen was "/detv/ttyS0" and yet it did when i said it was "/dev/input/wacom".
[08:16] <d343k> its just not reading that type of file or somthing
[08:16] <giacomo> cwillu: am i crazy?  am i missing something?
[08:17] <ffiarpg> arrenlex do you have any idea what i am talking about from such a poor description? and if so, does that sound normal? i thought it might be useful in troubleshooting my problems
[08:17] <cwillu> giacomo, one sec
[08:17] <coz_> d343k, ah go to gnome-look.org and look under or search for grub  you will find images with the correct extrension and resolution
[08:17] <tv7497> Kitu: does it mean it works ???????
[08:17] <d343k> i looked that the prop and now its saying the type of file is .ink
[08:17] <giacomo> cwillu: oh!  figured it out
[08:17] <prencher> hi, during install ubuntu detected my monitor fine - name and all - including all resolutions.. However after installing the nv drivers that's no longer the case; I've got it booting up at the right resolution, but as soon as i log in it reverts to a lower one and the right one cant be picked in prefs, any thoughts?
[08:17] <sirex> noone knows the key input to regain mouse control on xorg ? google not being very helpful
[08:17] <Kitu> i don't know tv7497, it's probably a shit in hosts conf files ....
[08:17] <keri> hello,  i need help i have a digital camera and on ubuntu i have f-spot and digikam and when i turn camera on it goes to f-spot.  but i would like it to go to digikam   can i get some help
[08:17] <dee> hello
[08:17] <cwillu> giacomo, k :)
[08:18] <giacomo> cwillu: i downloaded libssh-0.2.tgz and it has the right libs to get hydra to work right
[08:18] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Depends how your tablet is hooked up internally. Mine's over serial so ttyS0 is the right one for me, and that's what's in xorg.conf. I suggest trying both ways. I have never seen /dev/input/wacom before but that doesn't mean anything, there's a lot of things I haven't seen before.
[08:18] <giacomo> cwillu: thanks for the help
[08:18] <Kitu> tv7497, yes the ping works
[08:18] <Kitu> but http
[08:18] <Kitu> on <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:18] <dee> how can i manage it in a bash-script to get "$YEAR_$MONTH" to "2008_08" where YEAR and MONTH has been set before?
[08:18] <Kitu> it doesn't work
[08:18] <Kitu> at least y can't accede it
[08:18] <cwillu> giacomo, one thing I want to point out is that downloading a binary library that a tool of such provenance is rather sketchy from a security standpoint
[08:19] <c0mp13371331337> I'm thinking about getting a low-end fingerprint scanner for my system.  I've currently got my eyes on the APC USB scanner.  Does anyone have any experience with this or fingerprint scanners in general?  Trying to get a feel for how well they're supported at this point.  Pros?  Cons?  Caveats?
[08:19] <arrenlex> dee_: Do you want to put 2008_08 into another variable? Print it on the command line? What?
[08:19] <dee> arrenlex: use it for some other file operations like sed, cp, etc.
[08:19] <giacomo> cwillu: hmmm, you mean as it's outdated and may have security holes or something?
[08:19] <sirex> c0mp13371331337, yea, overall, their rubbish.
[08:20] <cwillu> giacomo, no, more that it could include backdoors
[08:20] <Kitu> tv7497, or maybe an iptables tule on your local system, at least if http server work on <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:20] <cwillu> if it's on the path, it might get picked up by other applications
[08:20] <c0mp13371331337> sirex: That bad, eh?
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: the one on my laptop works great, but I haven't figured out how to store more than one fingerprint yet.
[08:20] <Kitu> rule*
[08:20] <dee> arrenlex: the problem is the underscore. It's recognied as part of YEAR.
[08:20] <tv7497> Kitu: you mean http://ip adress works ?
[08:20] <arrenlex> dee: This worked for me: MY="${MONTH}_${YEAR}"
[08:20] <giacomo> cwillu: i see
[08:20] <Kitu> yes tv7497
[08:20] <dee> ah, some brackets... I will test it, thanks.
[08:20] <c0mp13371331337> fyrestrtr: So basically only one user can ever be authenticated by fingerprint on the system?
[08:20] <giacomo> cwillu: would it be better not to mess with it?
[08:20] <Kitu> it's the reale ip <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:21] <ffiarpg> arrenlex: what do the lines "Section "DRI"         Mode    0666 EndSection" do?
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: no, you can have multiple users, but only one digit per user afaik
[08:21] <dee> arrenlex: work's fine. Thanks! :)
[08:21] <cwillu> giacomo, there are other tools available, but I'd definately try to stick to trustable sources, or else keep that binary contained on a seperate machine
[08:21] <tv7497> Kitu: thank god i need to screw those dydns guys
[08:21] <cwillu> (vm, or whatever)
[08:22] <Scorp_> I need help regarding CGI Scripts on Ubuntu. My router uses .cgi files which dont run on Firefox and Opera both. What should i do ??
[08:22] <sirex> arg.... gimmi my mouse back xorg, or i'll slay you with the backspace !
[08:22] <cwillu> sirex, eh?
[08:23] <c0mp13371331337> fyrestrtr: I see, gotcha.  How well does it integrate into the system?  For example, is it just GDM and perhaps some gnome-keyring type things?  Or can it also cover sudo commands, firefox master password (or individual sites...) and the like?
[08:23] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: I don't know, actually. DRI is the direct rendering infrastructure, i.e. it's the magical layer that lets graphics be accelerated by the graphics card and not drawn in slow software. Mode 666 looks like a permissions mask but I don't know what one would be doing here... as a permissions it means read\write but no execute to everyone.
[08:23] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: Google I guess.
[08:23] <arrenlex> ffiarpg: In any case, it's definitely not tablet related, it's 3d accel related.
[08:23] <narothepharoh> #pokerth
[08:23] <cwillu> arrenlex, ffiarpg, dri creates a device accessible in /dev.  Those are the permissions set on that device
[08:23] <Kitu> tv7497, it's not dyNdns ?
[08:23] <cwillu> aka, who can mess with dri
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: it covers sudo and login, but not the screensaver.
[08:24] <cwillu> (regardless of access to the server, iirc)
[08:24] <arrenlex> cwillu: Thanks, that's useful to know... so I was close to right :D
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> c0mp13371331337: your prompt changes to 'Password or swipe finger:'
[08:24] <sirex> be back, gonna kill xorg. ;-(
[08:24] <ffiarpg> arrenlex: alright thanks, ill go ahead and leave that out then as my dedicated ati graphics are working perfectly, thanks again for uploading your xorg.conf file
[08:24] <giacomo> oh hey, while im here, i've got some questions about port forwarding...
[08:24] <cwillu> sirex, man xorg, search for allowclosedowngrabs (/ to search)
[08:25] <Scorp_> I need help regarding CGI Scripts on Ubuntu. My router uses .cgi files which dont run on Firefox and Opera both. What should i do ??
[08:25] <Kitu> tv7497, in fact i understand your problem now
[08:25] <cwillu> Scorp_, cgi where?
[08:25] <c0mp13371331337> fyrestrtr: X-) Ouch, screensaver + locked screen is my main security protocol.  I suppose I'll hold off, let the support ripen a bit.  Many thanks!
[08:25] <tv7497> Kitu: eh???
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Scorp_: this is not a problem that Ubuntu can fix.
[08:25] <cwillu> Scorp_, cgi's are run on the server, firefox/opera only ever see the output of that (which is just like any other webpage)
[08:25] <Kitu> tv7497,  you must install dns server to connect you on http://ip from internet
[08:25] <OldSage> Hey I have a question...
[08:25] <Kitu> only from internet tv7497
[08:26] <Kitu> in LAN it work on ip
[08:26] <cwillu> Scorp_, if your router (dlink, linksys, whatever?) doesn't work under firefox/opera, then it's broken
[08:26] <Scorp_> cwillu: The linksys router uses setup.cgi files which dont work on both firefox and opera. They run normally even on a PDA and other windows laptops
[08:26] <OldSage> Is there any advantage to using the 64bit version over the 32 version of Ubuntu?
[08:26] <giacomo> i use portforwarding for bittorrent, but whenever i use bittorrent, it kills all http traffic on my network... i can still use some internet things such as pidgin, but i can't browse websites and neither can anyone on my network
[08:26] <giacomo> am i doing it wrong?
[08:26] <cwillu> Scorp_, in some cases, you can tell firefox/opera to pretend to be internet explorer, which solves some of those problems (broken websites)
[08:26] <keri> hello i would like some help,   i have digital camera and i have f-spot and digikam on here and f-spot is where my pictures goes to and i would like them to go to digikam how can i do this?
[08:26] <Scorp_> cwillu: how do i do that ???
[08:27] <cwillu> Scorp_, otherwise, it's possible to install internetexplorer via wine, although that's not really supported.  But seriously, your router's design is broken, and it'd be best to not give the manufacturer any more money in the future
[08:27] <arrenlex> OldSage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#Pros_and_cons
[08:27] <cwillu> there's no reason in this day and age to make a consumer router that doesn't work with firefox
[08:27] <OldSage> thanks
[08:27] <c0mp13371331337> OldSage: 64 will run much better on a 64bit processor, but 64bit application support is a bit lacking (but getting there....)  You'll need 64 if you want to run any more than 4GB (3.2GB, actually) of RAM.
[08:27] <cwillu> Scorp_, having said all that, what brand and model of router?
[08:27] <Scorp_> cwillu: Linksys is supposed to be the biggest designer of router world over. Its design wont possibly be broken.
[08:28] <arrenlex> OldSage: The short answer is, "not enough that the compatibility problems won't be much worse than the tiny performance gains"
[08:28] <tv7497> Kitu: i asked them how but they said opt for any DNS service provider
[08:28] <cwillu> Scorp_, is it a linksys?
[08:28] <Scorp_> cwillu: Yea... Linksys WAG200G
[08:28] <arrenlex> c0mp13371331337: Why would 64-bit run much better than 32-bit on a 64-bit processor?
[08:28] <Amun> hrmm
[08:28] <cwillu> Scorp_, and if it works in ie, and doesn't in ff, it's broken
[08:28] <Amun> recompiling the kernel sucks. too many options.
[08:28] <arrenlex> c0mp13371331337: Additionally, the -server kernel supports 4GB of ram, in 32-bit mode.
[08:28] <Scorp_> cwillu: it works well with firefox on windows OS..
[08:28] <Scorp_> :(
[08:28] <cwillu> one sec
[08:29] <Kitu> tv7497, i don't know
[08:29] <cwillu> linksys is usually pretty good about this stuff (the wrt54g actually ran linux for a long time, and you can still buy models that support it)
[08:30] <cwillu> Scorp_, what error do you see?
[08:30] <Kitu> tv7497, in reading RFC DNS maybe
[08:30] <Scorp_> cwillu: wrt54g is the base model of this one...
[08:30] <keri> hello i would like some help,   i have digital camera and i have f-spot and digikam on here and f-spot is where my pictures goes to and i would like them to go to digikam how can i do this
[08:30] <Scorp_> cwillu: there's no error... when i enter the username and password, the page shows its loading, but doesnt. It actually should forward to another page, which doesnt happen..
[08:30] <cwillu> Scorp_, wag200g is the adsl model one, right?
[08:30] <tv7497> kiokie thanx for your time sir :)
[08:30] <Scorp_> cwillu: yeah...
[08:30] <c0mp13371331337> arrenlex: The 64bit version is made to take advantage of a 64bit processor, so it would stand to reason that it would run better than the 32bit version on the same processor.
[08:31] <cwillu> okay, it's not really related to the wrt54g
[08:31] <Kitu> tv7497, sorry i'm a stupid french beginner who believe know all
[08:31] <Kitu> :)
[08:31] <OldSage> So basically, unless I have a pressing need to go to 64Bit... its not worth the trouble eh?
[08:31] <cwillu> Scorp_, it prompts for a password, right?
[08:31] <Scorp_> cwillu: i had the wrt54g earlier, but just to remove the dsl modem i bought this one..
[08:31] <Scorp_> cwillu: yes, it prompts for that
[08:32] <Scorp_> but after that it doesnt load the next page... which is setup.htm, after setup.cgi..
[08:32] <arrenlex> c0mp13371331337: 64-bit isn't like another core, it doesn't offer direct performance advantages. Some programs can benefit from being able to do math in 64 bit of precision, but these are specially designed high performance apps that have to be tuned for it. Other than that, all you'll notice is crushing incompaibilities with 32-bit only software, and bigger binaries due to swollen pointers.
[08:32] <Scorp_> cwillu: the setup.cgi script is to load setup.htm page with the required inputs i guess... that doesnt happen..
[08:33] <cwillu> Scorp_, setup.cgi is what you get redirected to when you go directly to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/?
[08:33] <cwillu> (or whichever the ip is)
[08:33] <Scorp_> cwillu: yeah...
[08:33] <cwillu> odd that it redirects you immediately
[08:34] <OldSage> Well I guess that answers that
[08:34] <OldSage> Thanks for the help
[08:35] <vipaca> Im so tired of the default terminals in gnome does anyone have a suggestion?
[08:35] <Muntrue> Hello, i downloaded firefox-3.0 from the backports. its working great so-far but im wondering how i can enable the firefox-mplayer plugin for firefox-3.0. Anyone knows ?
[08:35] <cwillu> Scorp_, what happens if you just go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/setup.htm directly?
[08:36] <Scorp_> that page opens, but it doesnt have the right field values cuz those arent supplied by the CGI page..
[08:36] <Scorp_> cwillu: that page opens, but it doesnt have the right field values cuz those arent supplied by the CGI page.. So the fields are there but blank.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> Scorp_: this is not a problem that you can solve from Ubuntu. Its a problem with your router.
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> vipaca: rxvt
[08:39] <keri> hello    i would like to know how to make digikam my default where my pciture goes from my camera.  they go to f-spot no
[08:39] <lari> I need help
[08:40] <lari> When i start the a song says me :  failed to connect stream : invalid argument
[08:40] <cwillu> Scorp_, http://www.linksysinfo.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55250
[08:41] <lari> What i have to do?
[08:41] <keri> can i get a little help please
[08:42] <cwillu> fyrestrtr, if Scorp_ comes back (and you notice him), can you tell him to access the router via https, and it should start working?
[08:42] <jdbart> is there a way to make my laptop moniter not come on when it's closed and i push the multimedia buttons on the front?
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> cwillu: ok
[08:43] <cwillu> keri, System | Preferences | Removable Drives and Media
[08:46] <g00se> Is there a floppy disc installer like for Debian?
[08:46] <keri> import and only says f-spot and when i hit browse it dont show digikam
[08:47] <Sam__> g00se: no, but you can try the netinstall usb image
[08:47] <cwillu> keri, just type digikam
[08:47] <cwillu> I believe
[08:47] <cwillu> keri, give me one sec, might have a better answer though
[08:48] <keri> ok ty
[08:48] <cwillu> keri, go to places | home, and then go to Edit | Preferences | Media (tab), and tell me, do you see anything under Photos?
[08:48] <cwillu> keri, if it's not greyed out, then select something there, and then disable the import on the other thing
[08:48] <dlozarie> hi, it's me again. I'm trying to add a launcher for firefox in AWN, and it's asking for a command for firefox. I type in 'firefox' right? :)
[08:49] <muntrue_> Hi, i have installed firefox-3.0 from the backports. Now im wondering how to enable the mplayer plugin for it. Anyone that can help ?
[08:49] <g00se> Sam__: Pity. Thanks
[08:49] <cwillu> muntrue_, probably need to see if the backports have a backported version of it
[08:49] <cwillu> muntrue_, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:49] <muntrue_> cwillu, 7.10 I checked the backports for mplayer plugin for 3.0 but no luck
[08:50] <g00se> Sam__: Is there no USB installer per se - i.e. one that can be used outside netboot?
[08:50] <keri> cwillu: it says open f=spot manger
[08:50] <unop> !info mozilla-mplayer | Muntrue
[08:50] <cwillu> g00se, you can covert a livecd to a liveusb
[08:50] <cwillu> keri, well, that was useless :p
[08:50] <cwillu> one more sec :p
[08:50] <g00se> cwillu: is it small enough?
[08:51] <keri> cwillu: ok
[08:51] <cwillu> g00se, how small of a usb drive do you have?
[08:51] <g00se> cwillu: 1GB
[08:51] <cwillu> don't think you can even buy them smaller than 1gig anymore
[08:51] <cwillu> g00se, well, a cd is 650-700mb, so there's the answer :p
[08:51] <cwillu> there's a guide on ubuntu's wiki, don't have the link right now
[08:51] <g00se> cwillu: Doh ;-)
[08:52] <cwillu> g00se, I think it's under the eeepc install guide though (it uses a usb keydrive to install because it doesn't have a cd drive)
[08:52] <dlozarie> hi, it's me again. I'm trying to add a launcher for firefox in AWN, and it's asking for a command for firefox. I type in 'firefox' right? :)
[08:52] <hajiki> hey guys how come ubuntuforums.org looks so ugly in firefox?? how can i fix it??
[08:52] <g00se> cwillu: Makes sense
[08:52] <cwillu> g00se, ...which will work fine, as there's nothing eeepc specific until ubuntu is actually installed
[08:52] <unop> dlozarie, yes
[08:52] <hajiki> here have a look: http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45090_lol_123_337lo.jpg
[08:52] <arrenlex> g00se: There's a windows-based installer, does that help at all?
[08:52] <cwillu> keri, just working on figuring out how it knows that fspot is a photo app
[08:53] <dlozarie> unop, thanks.
[08:53] <cwillu> I didn't even have fspot installed anymore, so this is taking a few moments :p
[08:53] <arrenlex> Hajiki: I don't think ubuntuforums.org supports firefox, I think it's an ie only site.
[08:53] <g00se> arrenlex: No, thanks. I've got Etch on one disk right now. Just about to install 2nd HD. No CD
[08:53] <arrenlex> Hajiki: ( = p )
[08:53] <keri> cwillu: when i turned my camera on it went to digikam just nothing happen
[08:53] <cwillu> hajiki, can you post a screenshot to photobucket or something?
[08:54] <arrenlex> g00se: Mmm... you could netboot.
[08:54] <arrenlex> cwillu: He did: http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45090_lol_123_337lo.jpg
[08:54] <hajiki> http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45090_lol_123_337lo.jpg
[08:54] <arvind_khadri> arrenlex, sites arent browser specific
[08:54] <g00se> arrenlex: Messy
[08:54] <hajiki> arrenlex: that was a bad joke
[08:54] <cwillu> missed it :p
[08:54] <arrenlex> arvind_khadri: what do you mean, sites aren't browser specific?
[08:55] <muntrue_> cwillu, Fixed, i had to make a link between firefox 2 plugins and firefox 3 plugins
[08:55] <cwillu> hajiki, do you have user-agent-switcher installed? or some equivalent plugin?
[08:56] <arvind_khadri> arrenlex, you said ubuntuforums arent supported by FF ... i use to see them of FF
[08:56] <hajiki> mmm let me check
[08:56] <g00se> I've got an Etch floppy installer - wonder if i can hack it?
[08:56] <cwillu> arvind_khadri, he was joking
[08:57] <hajiki> cwillu: nope, i dont have user-agent-switcher
[08:57] <cwillu> hajiki, for what it's worth, it shows up fine on my machine
[08:57] <genii> g00se: Just use it then go to debbootstrap way onto hd specifying ubuntu and not debian etch
[08:57] <arrenlex> Hajiki: What does the last field on this page say? http://www.thismachine.info/
[08:57] <arvind_khadri> cwillu, oh ok ... i just entered and saw that...
[08:57] <cwillu> hajiki, can you try opening up firefox in safe-mode, and see if it's still messed up?
[08:57]  * arvind_khadri is sorry
[08:57]  * cwillu pokes arvind_khadri with a stick
[08:58] <hajiki> arrenlex: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/2008071719 Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS> MEGAUPLOAD 1.0
[08:58]  * arvind_khadri grins :D
[08:58] <dlozarie> how come the firefox launcher I added in AWN manager doesn't show up in the dock?
[08:58] <genii> g00se: Or better since you have a running linux box do it from the Etch you have already there
[08:58] <g00se> genii: Thanks - i'll look into that
[08:59] <cwillu> keri, hold on, I'm making progress :p
[08:59] <preben_> hi! How do I turn off that f-spot is opened when I connect a camera in XFCE. I got a dialog and misunderstood it so now it opens f-spot which I don't use every time I connect camera. I would like to change it to ignore
[08:59] <arrenlex> Hajiki: That megaupload doesn't sit well with me; is this an extension you chose to install? Anyway, whoever said to try in safemode has good advice... does it look okay if you launch it as firefox -safe-mode ?
[08:59] <g00se> The idea would be to get Ubuntu onto my 2nd HD and then dual-boot Etch and U
[09:00] <cwillu> preben_, system | preferences | removable..., and then in places | <anything> | Edit | Preferences | Media
[09:00] <keri> cwillu: i think u really fixed it and we did not know i am checking now
[09:00] <cwillu> preben_, (there's two places)
[09:00] <Fartini> http://obamainfrance.ytmnd.com/
[09:00] <preben_> cwillu: in removable I can only turn on and off the command I want to run
[09:01] <cwillu> preben_, so turn it off
[09:01] <preben_> cwillu: I use another program but still f-spot get opened two
[09:01] <cwillu> preben_, so turn it off, and then look at the other spot I mentioned
[09:01] <HorizonXP> hey guys, any idea why programs seem to shutdown on me automatically, after being left on for a few hours? like Transmission?
[09:01] <preben_> cwillu: but i want my command to run, not f-spot
[09:02] <cwillu> preben_, so. check. the. other. spot. I. mentioned.
[09:02] <hajiki> cwillu: i ran firefox in safe mode and it looks the same
[09:02] <preben_> cwillu: ok
[09:02] <cwillu> lol
[09:02] <arrenlex> Hajiki: Can you give the exact url that you're seeing this on?
[09:02] <keri> cwillu: i guess when u had me go to system,  pref and then to removable and change to digikam  it worked,  i turned on my camera and digikam came on and then i downloaded and they are there
[09:03] <cwillu> oh, okay then
[09:03] <keri> cwillu: thank you
[09:03] <cwillu> np
[09:03] <hajiki> arrenlex: ubuntuforums.org?
[09:03] <cwillu> anything for a fellow Carey, even if you spell it wrong :p
[09:03] <keri> nite
[09:04] <preben_> cwillu: and then in places | <anything> | Edit | Preferences | Media
[09:04] <preben_> cwillu: don't find this
[09:05] <preben_> cwillu: you mean from thunar, then I get same menu
[09:05] <hajiki> arrenlex: what do you mean? http://ubuntuforums.org/
[09:05] <cwillu> oh, not nautilus :/
[09:05] <arrenlex> Hajiki: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/screenshots/27980.png Looks okay to me in 3.0.1... sorry, I don't know what's going on with you.
[09:05] <cwillu> good to know if you're not running straight ubuntu :p
[09:05] <preben_> cwillu: I said xfce
[09:05] <cwillu> sorry, missed that
[09:06] <cwillu> preben_, you might want to check out #xubuntu, they'll probably be a bit more familiar with where autolaunching things are set
[09:06] <preben_> cwillu: if I turn off the importing my command doesn't get run but f-spot opens anyway
[09:06] <hajiki> arrenlex: thanks anyway...
[09:06]  * genii hires a crew fom Bangalore to live his life for him
[09:06] <preben_> cwillu: so I guess it is gnome thing
[09:06] <genii> oops wrong channel
[09:06] <cwillu> preben_, you aren't running nautilus for a desktop are you?
[09:06] <cwillu> preben_, try running nautilus from a terminal, and then check the Edit | Preferences | Media thing
[09:07] <FibonacciGold> From which package do I get zlib ?
[09:07] <preben_> cwillu: i instaleld ubuntu and xubuntu packages and kubuntu packages
[09:07] <cwillu> preben_, (ctrl+c in the terminal, possibly followed by a killall nautilus will kill it off if it starts misbehaving)
[09:07] <preben_> some people use xfce some kde etc...
[09:07] <preben_> I opened nautilus now
[09:07] <preben_> found the menu
[09:08] <cwillu> FibonacciGold, probably libzlib or something like that, just do a search for zlib in synaptic
[09:08] <FibonacciGold> cwillu: Did that, couldn't find it.
[09:08] <preben_> I'll try xubuntu
[09:08] <cwillu> FibonacciGold, there's a zlib1g
[09:09] <cwillu> FibonacciGold, if you're compiling something, you'll need zlib1g-dev
[09:09] <cwillu> preben_, nothing there?
[09:09] <cwillu> under images?
[09:09] <FibonacciGold> cwillu: Yes, ofcourse, my bad. Cheers...
[09:10] <Fartini> http://obamainfrance.ytmnd.com/
[09:10] <eko1> i'm trying to do a certain sudo command <sudo patch -p1 < 2.6.24.patch> in terminal but it's giving me the message "permission denied" anyone know how to fix this
[09:10] <preben_> cwillu: found it in gconf-editor some gnome autorun command and I turned it off and now my script runs only
[09:11] <Travisss> Hi, I setup a PPTP vpn server and have it working to access my network, but I would like to also be able to access my internet over the vpn...how do I set this up?
[09:11] <arrenlex> eko1: sudo -s ; patch -p1 < 2.6.24.patch ; exit
[09:11] <darren_> anyone offer advice on outlook 2007?
[09:11] <unop> eko1, sudo bash -c "patch -p1 < 2.6.24.patch"
[09:11] <cwillu> Travisss, you mean access the internet via the work vpn?
[09:12] <arrenlex> eko1: unop_ suggests a better way.
[09:12] <eko1> ok thanks both of you
[09:12] <Travisss> cwillu yes, I am running the VPS, I want to go down the street to the cafe and access the internet over my VPN
[09:12] <unop> arrenlex, I doubt your way works - considering that is a valid compound command :)
[09:12] <cwillu> Travisss, sorry, still confused
[09:12] <Travisss> cwillu I can only access network resources right now, not the actual internet
[09:12] <Miksag1> hey.. um, is it possible to turn of the automatic ligtures in Ubuntu?
[09:13] <cwillu> Travisss, we're not talking about any remote desktop, right?
[09:13] <darren_>  anyone offer advice on outlook 2007? -or point me in a direction that can?
[09:13] <cwillu> Travisss, because accessing the internet from your work machine via the vpn is a definite no-no
[09:13] <Travisss> cwillu no, I have an ubuntu computer with a vpn server running (pptp)
[09:13] <arrenlex> unop: Quite right, it's total crap. My bad.
[09:13] <arvind_khadri> darren_, ask #windows
[09:13] <Travisss> cwillu why is that?
[09:14] <darren_> many thanks, arvind...
[09:15] <cwillu> allowing a work computer to access the internet directly implies circumventing the corporate firewall, which is the sort of thing that would cause me (as an administrator) to talk to your boss about your activities
[09:15] <cwillu> however, that's not what we're talking about  if I understand you
[09:15] <cwillu> Travisss, ^^^^.  So, you'd need to configure your ubuntu server to provide a default gateway, and to actually route the traffic as necessary
[09:16] <Travisss> ok
[09:16] <cwillu> Travisss, The server's gateway may also need to know to contact the server for those internal addresses, depending on how you have the subnets set up
[09:16] <cwillu> All stuff handled by the documentation, although it is a little bit complicated.
[09:16] <Travisss> cwillu well my problem is I don't have an easy way to test this
[09:16] <cwillu> Very important to have a good understanding of the material if you're running a vpn though
[09:17] <cwillu> Travisss, set up a couple vm's
[09:17] <hajiki> i purged my firefox installation and it looks fine now
[09:17] <Travisss> cause when I connect in my network it works, but I have no idea how it will act when I connect from an external connection
[09:17] <cwillu> btw, if you have the option, I've always found openvpn far easier to configure and administer than cisco vpns
[09:18] <cwillu> not compatible with pptp obviously, but overall it's a far better architecture
[09:18] <cwillu> hajiki, weird.  Sounds like you ran safe-mode, but didn't actually tell it to disable the plugins (my bad)
[09:18] <DeadKennedy2880> !printer
[09:18] <cwillu> Travisss, hajiki, anyone else I was helping out:  I gotta run now, good luck!
[09:19] <Travisss> thanks
[09:19] <hajiki> later mate
[09:19] <arrenlex> cwillu, Hajiki: safe mode disables plugins, that's what it's for. I'm confused.
[09:20] <cwillu> arrenlex, there's a list of things you can disable when you launch it
[09:20] <cwillu> plugins vs extensions vs about:config entries vs ...
[09:20] <arrenlex> cwillu: No, there's a list of things to PERMANENTLY disable when you launch it.
[09:20] <cwillu> ah, k then
[09:20] <cwillu> must have been an about:config entry or something messed up then
[09:20] <hajiki> yeah safe mode disabled my plugins
[09:21] <Bend0r> hey all! little question..ifound out that i am missing 'exec'-flag in /etc/fstab. what does that mean?
[09:21] <arrenlex> cwillu: It was probably firefox.dontRenderPagesCorrectly = true
[09:21] <hajiki> but that wasnt the problem
[09:21] <cwillu> arrenlex, :p
[09:21] <cwillu> aka quirksmode?
[09:21]  * cwillu is seriously walking out the door now though, poking arrenlex with a stick as he leaves
[09:21] <arrenlex> crap, my funny joke is something browsers have been forced to really do for years. :(
[09:22] <hajiki> lol
[09:22] <unop> Bend0r, nothing? if the line has 'defaults'  exec is included automatically
[09:24] <Bend0r> unop.. thing about it is that my max payne isnt working because im missing 'exec'-flag in /etc/fstab they say. but i dont know what that means actually..
[09:24] <snarkster> has anyone ever tried to make a persistant usb key full install?
[09:24] <unop> Bend0r, from the mount manpage.    exec   Permit execution of binaries.
[09:25] <snarkster> man mount
[09:25] <unop> Bend0r, without it, you cannot launch programs, etc that reside on the partition - even if they are set to execute
[09:26] <pratik> hello
[09:27] <Bend0r> unop and how do i fix it? sorry im new to ubuntu..
[09:27] <snarkster> hmmm
[09:27] <snarkster> hello pratik
[09:27] <unop> Bend0r,  i would just add defaults to the list of options
[09:28] <snarkster> i don thtink ive seen this room this slow in a long time
[09:28] <pratik> where can i get kernel smp for ubuntu? or is it already compiled in original one?
[09:28] <Bend0r> unop, sorry?
[09:28] <unop> Bend0r,  e.g.  /dev/blah      /media/somewhere     ext3  defaults        0       2
[09:29] <snarkster> pratik it should already be there
[09:29] <snarkster> according to what i have read they arent making seperate smp kernels anymore as you wont really notice a difference
[09:30] <pratik> im using a Pentium D proccessor and when i disable single proccesor mode, any of linux distros dont work
[09:30] <Flannel> pratik: The -generic kernel does both UP and SMP
[09:30] <Jangari> how can i test whether my machine can boot from a usb device?
[09:30] <Flannel> pratik: if its giving you errors with that, you should file a bug.
[09:30] <snarkster> isnt that what i said?
[09:31] <matic> is there any option to switch desktops in cube like windoows with alt+tab?
[09:31] <pratik> it hangs on GUI after login..
[09:31] <snarkster> yes ctrl+f1 should change to 1st desktop
[09:31] <snarkster> maybe not
[09:31] <genii> matic: I usually also use ctrl arrow-left or arrow-right
[09:31] <Jangari> ctrl+alt, i think
[09:31] <pratik> totally hangs, cant use keyboard too, but its fine in runlevel 3
[09:31] <Kiyiko> looking for a way to password protect storage harddrive?
[09:32] <snarkster> hmm i just read about cryptofs i think its called.
[09:32] <snarkster> encrypted filesystem
[09:33] <Baby_Shambl3s> snarkster: control+alt+right or left arrows keys to change desktops
[09:33] <snarkster> ah thank you..
[09:33] <snarkster> i usually mouse it tho
[09:33] <eth01> what's the best way to install (boot) ubuntuy from usb?
[09:34] <snarkster> hmm grab a copy of hacking ubuntu and make a usb key. LOL Im doing that as we speak
[09:34] <Flannel> eth01: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20without%20a%20CD
[09:38] <LOWER_CASE> I've got a webcam: Swann HS with USB.  How can I see if it works, please?
[09:39] <genii> !hcl | LOWER_CASE it may be listed here under webcam section
[09:40] <nando> hello?
[09:40] <LOWER_CASE> genii, ubottu: will check out, thanks.
[09:40] <Kagee> LOWER_CASE: Install Cheese, plug it in and see
[09:40] <antonio__> hola
[09:40] <LOWER_CASE> Kagee, also thanks.
[09:40] <nando> anyone know how to install the atlantis or any other compiz plugin?
[09:42] <Jangari> how can i test whether my system supports booting from usb device?
[09:42] <nando> anyone know how to install the atlantis or any other compiz plugin?
[09:43] <hajiki> nando: go to #compiz-fusion
[09:43] <hajiki> maybe you'll find help there
[09:43] <unop> Jangari, you have to consult your motherboard/BIOS's manual
[09:44] <unop> Jangari, or have a look in the BIOS utility
[09:44] <nando> join #compiz-fusion
[09:44] <Flannel> nando: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:44] <starbyte> hey
[09:44] <starbyte> im looking for nerds
[09:44] <starbyte> any of you nerds?
[09:44] <Flannel> !offtopic | starbyte
[09:45] <starbyte> excuse me, you flatulent fuck?
[09:45] <Jangari> mm, alright,
[09:45] <starbyte> don't tell me i'm offtopic.
[09:45] <kenkku> starbyte: read the message and try to understand it
[09:45] <darren_> i have an email problem.  can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:46] <sjovan> darren_: maby you should try to describe the problem?
[09:47] <darren_> smtp with evolution is fine but will not connect with outlook2007
[09:47] <Jangari> 'connect with'?
[09:47] <Jangari> can you define that?
[09:47] <Jangari> what has evolution got to do with outlook2007?
[09:47] <darren_> quoting outlook 'outlook cannot connect to your outgoing (smtp) server...'
[09:48] <Jangari> ah, okay
[09:48] <darren_> what it has to do is that one program works fine and the other doesn't and i don't know why
[09:48] <sjovan> darren_: why do you want to use outlook?
[09:48] <Jangari> stupid question, but you have made sure that your smtp server is entered correctly with outlook?
[09:49] <Jangari> use thunderbird instead, is my first suggestion
[09:49] <inik1> darren_: send error here
[09:49] <darren_> because it's the laptop supplied by my workplace and although i hate it i have no choice
[09:49] <sjovan> darren_: so this isn't a ubuntu problem at all?
[09:50] <unop> darren_, you should be asking this in a channel that supports outlook
[09:50] <Jangari> darren_: is the one supplied by your workplace connected to the same net connection as the one on which you run evolution?
[09:50] <darren_> no it isn't but i'm new to irc and i don't know who to ask
[09:50] <inik1> darren_: it's about smtp & pop connection seettings
[09:50] <Jangari> hold on a sec everyone, this may be an easy one'
[09:50] <darren_> yes, it is currently connected wirelessly to the same router as this desktop machine
[09:50] <unop> darren_, the guys in ##windows might know
[09:50] <unop> Jangari, it's offtopic
[09:51] <inik1> inik1: i can help
[09:51] <darren_> tried ##windows but was ignored for 15 minutes
[09:51] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:51] <Jangari> woo hoo, netsplit!
[09:51] <Jangari> yee haw
[09:51] <inik1> darren_: i know enogh about mail clients. ?
[09:52] <Oli``> Is there a tool I can use to monitor total monthly bandwidth?
[09:52] <mkquist> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH... netsplit... lol
[09:52] <hateball> Oli``:  You can use iftop I guess
[09:52] <darren_> guys, i don't want to upset ontopic/offtopic protocol.  just point me in a direction and i'll be out of your hair
[09:53] <marin> FloodBot, wtf?!?! Anyway why is my flashplayer integrated in mozilla firefox slow(it suddenly speedup, and then slowdown), I installed ATI drivers!?!?'
[09:53] <hateball> Oli``: or vnStat
[09:53] <Jangari> it sounds like it's an outlook issue, darren_, i would suggest you tempt fate and install thunderbird instead, knowing that your workplace may never know
[09:54] <Oli``> vnStat looks more like it hateball - cheers!
[09:54] <tony_> i have a question
[09:54] <hateball> Oli``: Happy to help :)
[09:54] <sjovan> darren_: "10:47:55 <darren_> quoting outlook 'outlook cannot connect to your outgoing (smtp) server...'" sounds like it has something to do with the smtp setup :P
[09:55] <sjovan> darren_: go for Jangari solution
[09:55] <inik1> darren_: you can use telnet <pop server > 110 to check if it's available
[09:55] <matic> can someone help me with establishing wireless connection
[09:55] <sjovan> 's *
[09:55] <Jangari> yeah, first of all, double check and triple check the smtp,
[09:55] <Tony5> hmm
[09:55] <Tony5> lol
[09:55] <darren_> agreed about smtp settings - but same as evolution and evo works fine.  fair point about thunderbird though...
[09:55] <inik1> darren_: and telnet <smtp server > 25
[09:55] <artagnon> I'm attempting to cross over my OS from ubuntu to debian. I changed the repos and debootstrapped on /. It boots with the ubuntu kernel but not with the debian one
[09:55] <Tony5> whenever an person who knows ubuntu that can help me with a situation
[09:55] <sjovan> matic: maby you should tell us what the problem is...
[09:55] <artagnon> what am I missing?
[09:55] <Tony5> please whisper me
[09:55] <Jangari> it's less of a problem than having your workplace move everyone from a unix mail system to microsoft exchange, against everyone's wishes
[09:56] <hateball> !ask | Tony5
[09:56] <matic> sjovan: how can i check if my wifi card is properly installed
[09:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> !ask | Tony5
[09:56] <darren_> tried port numbers ad infinitum but no success.  evolution worked without even asking for one!
[09:56] <Tony5> well when i installed ubuntu
[09:56] <Baby_Shambl3s> hmmm where is the bot?
[09:56] <Tony5> i only had 1 hard drive in it
[09:56] <Tony5> i turned it off
[09:56] <Tony5> added my second one
[09:56] <Jangari> Baby_Shambl3s: hateball already did it
[09:56] <Tony5> then booted it back up
[09:56] <darren_> tried telnet 25 - not connecting
[09:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5: in one line
[09:57] <sjovan> matic: lspci | grep Wireless ---> www.pastebin.com the result
[09:57] <sjovan> matic: it's inportant with the big "W"
[09:57] <hateball> !enter | Tony5
[09:57] <Tony5> im missing a file that is on that second hard drive and i dont know where it is can you tell me if ubuntu might have tried to formatt that drive?
[09:57] <Baby_Shambl3s> Jangari: oh yeah didnt notice
[09:57] <mkquist> Tony5: please dont ask to ask to ask a quest...   what the hell was I doing...  oh yeah...  dont ask to ask...  sorry, it just seems funny. gnite all have fun.
[09:58] <matic> sjovan: http://pastebin.com/d1fa65f5
[09:58] <pogay> does somebody test hd installation by *qemu* ? doesn't find the "root".
[09:58] <ynotest> hey, does anyone have experience with dual booting vista and ubuntu? i have already tried easybcd but it doesnt work
[09:58] <pogay> qemu -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.img -append root=/dev/hda1/ -snapshot -hda /dev/sdb3
[09:58] <mkquist> ynotest: it works w/o that i remember
[09:58] <sjovan> matic: looks like it's working yep :)
[09:59] <ynotest> yeah grub didnt load
[09:59] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5,  ok trying to understand; you have 1 hd which you replaced with your second hd which has ubuntu right and in that hd your missing a file?
[09:59] <Jangari> darren_: even if you're restricted to using outlook, install and try thunderbird to see if it connects alright, so as to at least diagnose that the problem isn't your entire machine but something restricted to outlook
[09:59] <pogay> i tryed /  /dev/sdb3 ...
[09:59] <mkquist> i think u can still use grub, but you need another piece of software
[09:59] <matic> sjovan: if i unplug the cable net doesent work
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> hi all!
[09:59] <hateball> hello ;d
[09:59] <darren_> yes, good idea.  i'll try that now...
[09:59] <ynotest> after i install ubuntu, it just boots into vista if i dont do anything
[09:59] <remoteCTRL> anyone got an idea how i can import more themes into gnome-artng?
[09:59] <mkquist> ynotest: grub just points to the vista loader
[10:00] <sjovan> matic: prob. because you have to set up the wireless first. are under a cryptated network or something?
[10:00] <mkquist> yno
[10:00] <mkquist> ynotest: oops, give me a mo, ill give you a link
[10:00] <Baby_Shambl3s> out of curiosity if 1 hd has windows and the other has ubuntu can you just replace them around? will the MBR even allow that?
[10:00] <Jangari> ynotest: apparently it isn't so good. Vista never really shuts down, they tell me, so you have difficulty mounting shared partitions; 'already in use', etc.
[10:00] <hateball> ynotest: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and set whichever you want to be booting as default. Might want to remove the savedefault for vista perhaps.
[10:00] <matic> sjovan: i have wireless router, with wpa key yes.. if i run ifconfig only lo and eth0 shown
[10:00] <Tony5> well i have it where there are 2 drives on it. i had a big file on that second one that had my backup files from my previous operating system. when i tried to look in the second drive it shown only 1 file was in there plus a recycle file  and some system restore file. this file i am missing is almost like a gigabit big.
[10:00] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: edit your /boot/grub/menu.list, there is a variable to set what os to boot per default
[10:01] <ynotest> it is not the default problem i am having.. i used easybcd to add entry for ubuntu grub but it just goes partition not found or something when i try to boot into it
[10:01] <Matze__> huhu
[10:01] <ichweissnicht> hi!
[10:02] <Matze__> was geht
[10:02] <Jangari> ah, error 17, ynotest?
[10:02] <ichweissnicht> ich bin noch Windows user
[10:02] <ynotest> yeah thats the one
[10:02] <ichweissnicht> würd aber gern wechseln
[10:02] <Jangari> !de | Matze__
[10:02] <Matze__> ich net mehr
[10:02] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: i dont know easybdc so i can not help you with that but i know that supergrub cd boots all that can be booted
[10:02] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5: ahhhh youre main hd (1st hd has ubuntu) and your second hd (is for backup) but on that hd you cnat find the file you need which is 1GB, what is the second hd formated to and are you accessing it from windows or ubuntu?
[10:02] <Jangari> okay, you need "super grub disk"
[10:02] <Jangari> ynotest:
[10:02] <ichweissnicht> I'd like to change from Windows to a free OS
[10:02] <Matze__> ich glaub der chat is gar nich ma so gut
[10:02] <sjovan> matic: what does iwconfig say?
[10:02] <sjovan> pastebin
[10:02] <Jangari> I think that's what you need anyway
[10:02] <remoteCTRL> !de ichweissnicht
[10:03] <sjovan> ichweissnicht: then go for ubuntu :)
[10:03] <remoteCTRL> !de | ichweissnicht
[10:03] <ichweissnicht> But I read that even Ubunto contains non-free parts like firmware, etc
[10:03] <marin> How to change refresh rate, I can't change it from sys->pref->screen resolution
[10:03] <ichweissnicht> so would you rather advice me to grab Gobuntu or gnewsense?
[10:03] <mkquist> ynotest: i installed vista and just used grub... was quiet easy... don't know about easybcd.  imo third party boot loaders don't help
[10:03] <matic> sojvan: http://pastebin.com/d2c3fcf43
[10:03] <matic> sjovan: http://pastebin.com/d2c3fcf43
[10:04] <pogay> ichweissnicht: ich finde ubuntu recht nett für normale Benutzer, und arbeite auch damit
[10:04] <unop> !de
[10:04] <sjovan> ichweissnicht: no-free parts? are you thinking about like 3 party drivers and stuff or?
[10:04] <remoteCTRL> ichweissnicht: firmware, that is meant when a driver releaser does not publish under glp to avoid mixed versions that cause problems that is perfectly ok
[10:04] <sjovan> matic: okay... the something is wrong :)
[10:04] <popey> ichweissnicht: ubuntu now has a "free software only" option during install which replaces gobuntu
[10:04] <Tony5> this whole system has ubuntu linux on it.when i had the windows operating system up the file was fine but once i tried once i removed the second drive and formatted the main one and put ubuntu on their installed and done the updates it wanted. then turned the pc off and put the second drive in and turned it back on that file was gone.
[10:04] <fouad> hi any one knows a good open source/free tools to visually design databases on linux ?
[10:04] <matic> sjovan: what do u suggest to do
[10:04] <pogay> ichweissnicht:  there is also a ubuntu with only free parts
[10:05] <pogay> there are different ubuntus
[10:05] <Jangari> ynotest: i think the problem is that your menu.lst has lost the path to the right kernal, windows has the tendency to block other OSs from being installed easily
[10:05] <unop> pogay, he already knows about gobuntu/gnewsense
[10:05] <remoteCTRL> ichweissnicht: non free drivers does not mean you have to pay for it it only means you must not alter them
[10:05] <Jangari> there are people around here normally who helped me with precisely that problem when it happened to me
[10:05] <popey> unop: ok
[10:05] <ynotest> ah i c, i will try playing around with auto super grub
[10:05] <sjovan> matic: dam, haven't been on my box for a month now. thinking :)
[10:05] <ichweissnicht> popey: Thanks for the hint. Then I don't need gobunu anymore?? What'S then the difference between gobuntu and ubuntu with free-sw only install?
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> ichweissnicht: i would not suggest to use ubuntu without restricted drivers as you will not have nvidia or ati drivers then
[10:06] <marin> How to change refresh rate, I can't change it from sys->pref->screen resolution
[10:06] <marin> How to change refresh rate, I can't change it from sys->pref->screen resolution
[10:06] <remoteCTRL> marin: got an nvidia card?
[10:06] <Jangari> it'll be restricted by your monitor, marin
[10:07] <marin> I have ATI
[10:07] <marin> How restricted by monitor, I am on 60 Hz now
[10:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> Tony5: if you didn't format/deleted the file on the second hd it should be there, if it is a system file it could be hidden; ctrl+h to unhide, if the file is a Gig than you cna compare all the files you got on that drive to the amount of space left that should tell you if it is there or not otherwise its gone
[10:07] <ichweissnicht> I'm not concerned about paying, but about all source code bein open. Though I can't read it, it gives me a better feeling in terms of security. That's why I'm mopving away from Windose
[10:07] <marin> I could go higher than 60hz on Winblows
[10:07] <artagnon> which package is init part of?
[10:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: are there any drivers for sis?
[10:08] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: well, you don't HAVE to use any non-free things with Ubuntu
[10:08] <IndoRama> is it possible to make Ubuntu autologin (and not wait at the login screen) when the machine is booted ?
[10:08] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: not that i knew of, should wor out of the box with xorg drivers
[10:08] <Tony5> ok i am going to try and reboot again to see if maybe it just have bugged itself making it where i cant see it i will be right back
[10:08] <Jangari> it's in users and groups, IndoRama
[10:08] <marin> Catalyst control center is telling me same, why It can't go higher than 60Hz?!?!?!
[10:08] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: everything that comes with Ubuntu by default is free, you would have to forcibly install anything non-free
[10:08] <hateball> IndoRama: /usr/sbin/gdmsetup
[10:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> ichweissnicht: use linux in general whichever OS you choose youll like it, just recently got my toshiba satellite working with puppy linux and dsl (50-100mb)
[10:09] <ichweissnicht> gaelfx: but if I don't use non-free parts then I can't watch vidos??
[10:09] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: yeah but i havent got much 3d support :/
[10:09] <IndoRama> Thanks, Janagri, Hateball
[10:09] <gaelfx> marin: why do you want it to go higher than 60hz?
[10:09] <unop> marin, what modes are supported with your current setup?  use xrandr at a terminal to find out?
[10:09] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:09] <Oli``> How can I make ASLA remember my volume so next time I boot it's where it is now?
[10:09] <pox> anyone having problems with acpi_fakekey?
[10:09] <pox> doesn't seem to be doing anything
[10:09] <artagnon> how do I find out which package a certain file is part of?
[10:09] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: you can watch videos, only videos that are made with free codecs though
[10:09] <remoteCTRL> marin: Baby_Shambl3s sry but thats the way it is with onboard devices..
[10:09] <artagnon> I want to like grep the output of dpkg -L (all) for a certain file
[10:10] <jeeves__> does anyone know if there is a channel for the eagle package?
[10:10] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:10] <artagnon> but that ^^ isn't a good way
[10:10] <gaelfx> ichweissnicht: there is no way to watch those other videos or listen to mp3s with only foss code
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> marin:  if you do lspci is your card listed there correctly?
[10:10] <ichweissnicht> Baby_Shamble3s: but almost all contain non-free drivers and firmware. On the other hand I'm worried about not being able to watch movies then... :-(
[10:10] <Jangari> or, IndoRama: system > admin > login window > Security > enable automatic login
[10:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: yeha true i should stop being stingy and pay for a dam card "but we both know that wont happen any time soon"
[10:10] <ichweissnicht> I'm not a computer expert... :-(
[10:10] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:10] <pox> InfecteX, asking just once might help
[10:10] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: well i dint know undtil just now:D
[10:11] <InfecteX> opc: Asking one, no response
[10:11] <InfecteX> pox
[10:11] <IndoRama> Thanks Jangari, I got it
[10:11] <Oli``> gaelfx> ichweissnicht: there is no way to watch those other videos or listen to mp3s with only foss code << not true. the code is FOSS but it could be deemed as patent infringing in the few parts of the world that have software patents
[10:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> ichweissnicht: youll watch your movies believe me you will and remoteCTRL true true you didnt
[10:11] <hateball> artagnon: dunno if you can search packages.ubuntu.com, but it seems down atm
[10:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> InfecteX: whats your quetsion if i cna help i will
[10:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> InfecteX: nvm
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: exept for bluerays...
[10:12] <ichweissnicht> humm, ok
[10:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: wont be buying nay soon not until films become fully distributed on it and on HD tvs
[10:12] <ichweissnicht> if I install ubuntu with free-sw only and I find out I need those non-free drivers urgently, I can also install them easily afterwards, can't I?
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> hey all
[10:13] <remoteCTRL> Baby_Shambl3s: too expensive anyways...
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> how do I get my wireless atheros pci card working please?
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> lspci shows that card, but no driver appears to have been loaded for it
[10:13] <hateball> ichweissnicht: Yes, if you try playing a restricted file it will even ask you if you want the codecs etc downloaded
[10:13] <remoteCTRL> !wifi | JohnFlux2
[10:13] <Baby_Shambl3s> remoteCTRL: true forgot to add that
[10:13] <JohnFlux2> at least ifconfig -a  and iwconfig  doesn't see it
[10:14] <eth01> txqueuelen:1000
[10:14] <eth01> what does that mean btw ^?
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: you need to install drivers and maybe firmware, and consider that atheros is not eth but athX
[10:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> ichweissnicht: aint you making a fuss over nothing you have an option to use free or restricted its up to you whats best
[10:14] <ichweissnicht> And what's then the difference between gnewsense (based on ubuntu but only free) and ubuntu in only free install and gobuntu?
[10:14] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: yeah,  I have no ath*
[10:15] <ichweissnicht> I trhink basically it's a matter of principles
[10:15] <ichweissnicht> thanks, hateball for the advice
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: then youre almost certain missing drivers, what does dmesg|grep atheros return?
[10:16] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: nothing (even trying grep -i)
[10:16] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: closest hit is ath_hal being loaded
[10:16] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: what does lspci return for your wireless card?
[10:17] <JohnFlux2> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[10:17] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: take the chipnumber out of lscpi and dmesg| grep the number
[10:17] <gaelfx> does anyone know if ndiswrapper can install ethernet drivers?
[10:17] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: in that case dmesg | grep AR2413
[10:17] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: yeah - nothing at all
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> ??
[10:18] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: no matches for  even  dmesg | grep -i AR2
[10:18] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: your ubuntu correctla recognizes the card bt it makes no attempt to initialize it
[10:18] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: hmm
[10:18] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: how rude :-)
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: but you got the led shining for the wifi, meaning it is turned on?
[10:19] <remoteCTRL> :D
[10:19] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: the pci card's led isn't shinning
[10:20] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: switch it on already! :D
[10:20] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: it's a pci card.. how on earth do I turn it on? :)
[10:21] <eth01> nobody knew :)
[10:21] <gaelfx> does anyone know if ndiswrapper can install ethernet drivers?
[10:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> gaelfx: i thought ndiswrapper was for graphics card, am i mistaken?
[10:22] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: you mean like in a computer not in a laptop?
[10:22] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: right
[10:22] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: It's a PC
[10:22] <gaelfx> Baby_Shambl3s: it's actually for wireless mainly
[10:22] <Baby_Shambl3s> gaelfx: yeah just checked online on their homesite
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: that is weird->ubuntu recons it but does nothing to start it
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> *think*
[10:23] <gaelfx> Baby_Shambl3s: me too
[10:23] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: is it worth me trying the madwifi stuff?
[10:23] <gaelfx> Baby_Shambl3s: but I need to figure out if it will work for my card
[10:23] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: gimme a sec
[10:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> you should do a google search on it with you card model which you havent stated
[10:24] <gordonjcp> hrmm
[10:24] <sugi> I am installing morrowind right now.  I am on the wiki morrowind page and it's pretty straight forward.  Do I have to install anything on a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[10:24] <gordonjcp> when I reboot, I find that the permissions of some devices have changed
[10:25] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: lshw -C network    shows it btw.  it starts with  *-network:0  UNCLAIMED     though, whatever that means
[10:25] <gordonjcp> how can I make permissions in /dev/ stick across reboots?
[10:25] <InfecteX> Hello! I have a problem! I try to connect my palm m130 to PC but it doesen't work! What i must do?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: you should not be assigning or modifying permissions on devices.
[10:25] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: oh?
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> !doesn't work | InfecteX
[10:25] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: so how do you suggest I create new devices?
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: instead, add your user to the group that has rights to the device. Fiddling with /dev permissions is a short way down the path of "help I can't boot because my disk disappeared"
[10:26] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: ok i got it:
[10:26] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: that works if the device is owned by anything other than root
[10:26] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: I don't plan on adding every single user into root's group
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: you don't add them to the root group. What device are you trying to access?
[10:27] <Baby_Shambl3s> fyrestrtr, gordonjcp: yeah done that many times not pretty when you cant edit stuff through cli and x doesnt start up afterwards :/ learnt my lesson passing experience on
[10:27] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: a USB serial device, for which I've written a driver
[10:27] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2:sudo apt-get install madwifi-source madwifi-tools madwifi-doc module-assistant build && m-a prepare && m-a a-i madwifi
[10:27] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: when I load the kernel module it all works, but Ubuntu likes to tamper with the permissions
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: without the build in the line
[10:28] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: m-a might require you to install build-essential
[10:28] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL:  no such package madwifi-source
[10:28] <JohnFlux2> i guess i need a repos for that?
[10:29] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: sec
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: what permissions do you want on it?
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: ok spare it out and just install the madwifi and the tools
[10:30] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: okay done
[10:30] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: mode 0660, with an appropriate group and user set
[10:30] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: ok what does iwconfig return now?
[10:30] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: the annoying thing is that it clobbers any added character nodes in /dev on reboot anyway
[10:30] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: no difference
[10:31] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: there's still no ath* or similiar
[10:31] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: dmesg | grep AR2413 ?
[10:31] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: done the ma prepare and m-a a-i madwifi yet?
[10:32] <remoteCTRL> m-a prepare
[10:32] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: m-a a-i madwifi    seems to want to package and install  madwifi-source
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: have you adjusted the udev rules for your device?
[10:32] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: no, good point, I should read up on udev
[10:32] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: does it do it?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: that's what is doing the 'clobbering' on boot.
[10:33] <gordonjcp> fyrestrtr: is there any way to remove udev and just use oldskool /dev ?
[10:33] <InfecteX> I have a problem! My Palm M130 doesen't connect with my PC with gnome-pillot, eighter with jpilot. HELP!
[10:33] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: no, it can't find it.   i could check out the madwifi source manually
[10:33] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: do so ill check package.ubuntu meanwhile
[10:33] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: thanks man
[10:34] <genii> InfecteX: Were you using it primarily with a Mac computer previously?
[10:34] <codered> Hello , i was upgrading to hardy but suddenly upgrading process has freezed here :"Generating locales ... en_AU.UTF-8..." please advice !
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> gordonjcp: I am not aware; but if there was, it would require a kernel recompile.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> codered: that process does take a while.
[10:35] <gaelfx> does anyone know if ndiswrapper can install an NVidia MCP51 ethernet controller driver?
[10:35] <codered> fyrestrtr: i did wait it the whole night :-( ,
[10:35] <remoteCTRL> what the heck is wrong with packages.ubuntu.com? i cant load the site
[10:35] <spiel_mit_feuer> does anyone here use a 64-bit computer?
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> spiel_mit_feuer: yes.
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: yes
[10:36] <spiel_mit_feuer> what do you use for flash websites like youtube?
[10:36] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: standard flash player
[10:36] <teimu> im trying to configure my kernel. are there any tools for this (something like "menuconfig"? (yes, i know, if i have to ask, i probably shouldnt be messing with it, but im following a vague guide)
[10:36] <maria> hi children
[10:36] <spiel_mit_feuer> are you running a 32-bit browser?
[10:37] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: nope? you can also try out swfplayer
[10:37] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: sudo apt-get install libflash-swfplayer
[10:37] <spiel_mit_feuer> i found something better than swf
[10:38] <marco> hi. how to install compiz fusion?
[10:38] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down:/
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> spiel_mit_feuer: yes?
[10:38] <spiel_mit_feuer> i tried the swfdec plugin.. but i found one that works more like the native flash client used on 32 bit browsers
[10:38] <spiel_mit_feuer> i found it in synaptic
[10:38] <remoteCTRL> marco: i should be installed per default, go to /system/preferences/appearance
[10:39] <remoteCTRL> marco: and enable the advanced desktop effects on the visual effects tab
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> it was called "flashplugin-nonfree" This package will download the Flash Player from Adobe.  It is a
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> Netscape/Mozilla type plugin.  Any browser based on Netscape or Mozilla can
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> use the Flash plugin.  This package currently supports the following browsers:
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> Mozilla, Mozilla-Firefox, Firefox, Iceweasel, and Iceape.  Also Galeon and
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> Epiphany can use the Flash plugin.  Konqueror can also use the Flash plugin if
[10:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> konqueror-nsplugins is installed.
[10:39] <FloodBot3> spiel_mit_feuer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: yes? so?
[10:40] <spiel_mit_feuer> should have come out as one large message
[10:40] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: okay i've made install'ed  madwifi
[10:40] <remoteCTRL> deos anyone know how to import more themes into gnome-artng?
[10:41] <marco> remoteCTRL, tnks. but i know there was a compiz fusion with lot more options. fire, etc. where do i get it ?
[10:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> it says its the actual flash client.. maybe a 64-bit testing version?
[10:41] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: nice! now you ought to be able to config it the usual way in system/admin/network
[10:41] <JohnFlux2> remoteCTRL: modprobe ath_pci  gives symbol errors
[10:42] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: basically... adobe does not support 64 bit versions at all.. thanks adobe...
[10:42] <spiel_mit_feuer> so is this an unsupported 64-bit version made by adobe?
[10:43] <remoteCTRL> marco: open gome-control-center and click on advanced desktop settings
[10:43] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: i guess so
[10:43] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: restart your computer :D
[10:43] <spiel_mit_feuer> anyway... i tried it.. it works, so whether they support it fully, or its just a testing version, it works.... and is there for us to use on ubuntu.. all i had to do was check it in synaptic and it automatically installed itself as a browser plugin
[10:44] <remoteCTRL> JohnFlux2: alway have a loog on that dmesg messages that should give iinfo why it isnt working
[10:44] <marco> remoteCTRL, sorry bothering you but where is gnome-control-center?
[10:44] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: basically your firefox should suggest to install that  as soon as you open a site that contains flash content?
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> marco: enter it as a command into a terminal
[10:45] <ynotest> i can't boot into ubuntu >.< i have just installed ubuntu after vista... but i didnt even get a grub menu or anything... tried easybcd and auto super grub disk... didnt work :S
[10:45] <spiel_mit_feuer> yeah, it really should remote.. if not firefox, then ubuntu should have it as a major package, or even installed automatically
[10:45] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: you got several menus in super grub disk do you see the partition and its contents there at all?
[10:46] <spiel_mit_feuer> if i was designing a distro for 64-bit, id use it
[10:46] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: i meant my firefox on ubuntu does that;)
[10:46] <ynotest> hmm i used auto super grub disk.. so i dunno.. it stopped at running "embed.... something"
[10:47] <spiel_mit_feuer> remote.. do you use java sites ever? such as for games?
[10:47] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: use the normal super grub disk you got alot of possibilities there, IF that thing is bootable at all super grub disk can do it for you, also change the master boot record and the partition table
[10:47] <ynotest> o k
[10:47] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: not for games, but you can hardly aoid java sites, why?
[10:47] <ynotest> need to find a blank cd then..
[10:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> what do you use for a java plugin?
[10:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> i tried a couple.. and one of them screwed up my browser
[10:48] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: the one that firefox asks me to install as soon as you hit a site?
[10:48] <needshelpandfast> hello can anyone help me with mounting ext3 in xubuntu?
[10:49] <remoteCTRL> spiel_mit_feuer: ah! sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:49] <sjaakz> Hi all -- I bought a WIFI/PCI card for my Ubuntu 8.04 machine: a Linksys WMP54g (basically: (RT61:RT2561))
[10:49] <remoteCTRL> needshelpandfast: man mount
[10:49] <maria> helloooooooooooooo
[10:49] <sjaakz> I tried ndiswrapper - didnt work
[10:49] <sjaakz> now im trying to use the native rt61 drive r(no ndiswraper_ but doesnt work either. its all messed up now
[10:50] <sjaakz> all the tutorials dont work either
[10:50] <sjaakz> pcilist shows teh card is installed
[10:50] <sjaakz> but thats it
[10:50] <sjaakz> I cant get the wlan0 interface up (or is it ra0??)
[10:50] <spiel_mit_feuer> everytime firefox asks me to install something, it does nothing.. asks me to do a manual install
[10:50] <marco> remoteCTRL, gnome-control-center is open but I cant find advanced desktop settings.
[10:51] <maria> hello
[10:52] <remoteCTRL> marco: try compizconfig-settings-manager if not there sudo apt-get install it
[10:53] <sjaakz> "iwlist wlan0 scan" no results...
[10:53] <InfecteX> I have a problem! My Palm M130 doesen't connect with my PC with gnome-pillot, eighter with jpilot. HELP!
[10:53] <Angel-SL> Where did the dev-essentials package go?
[10:53] <Angel-SL> I need it
[10:53] <sjaakz> while this laptop is next to the Ubutu machine and sees 8 networks
[10:53] <gordonjcp> !repeat | InfecteX
[10:53] <remoteCTRL> !ask > maria
[10:53] <InfecteX> gordonjcp please tell me where i repeted my question!
[10:53] <naftilos76> hi every body, i've got a problem with a pci rt2500 card. I've got ubuntu UE (same as ubuntu 8.04) and although the wireless card is connected with the router having 47% signal, maximum download speed from a disk attached to the router is 20kbytes/s. It should normally be around 1MMbyte/s. At least that applied with other distros such as a previous fedora 8 installed...Anybody having anything to advise?
[10:54] <maria> i read ubottu
[10:55] <Angel-SL> !build-essentials
[10:55] <gordonjcp> InfecteX: at 10:09, at 10:10 twice, at 10:25, at 10:33 and at 10:53
[10:55] <InfecteX> RIght
[10:55] <gordonjcp> InfecteX: you've pasted the same non-question over and over and over
[10:55] <remoteCTRL> maria: so? whats your question?
[10:55] <Nix3r>  i got struck by a virus while runing windows. and all my video / audio files were deleted. then i re partitioned all drives. any good utility to recover my data?
[10:55] <InfecteX> From 10.33 to 10.53 is a diference of 20 minutes
[10:55] <gordonjcp> Nix3r: not if you've repartitioned the drives, not really
[10:56] <gordonjcp> InfecteX: that's as may be, but sitting going "my Palm doesn't work!"  I've got ubuntu UE (same as ubuntu 8.04) and although the wireless card is connected with the router having 47% signal, maximum download speed from a disk attached to the router is 20kbytes/s. It should normally be around 1MMbyte/s. At least that applied with other distros such as a previous fedora 8 installed...To connect to the router, i'm using network manager. Anybody having
[10:57] <naftilos76> anything to advise?
[10:57] <jorge_> hi who i can install from cd
[10:57] <remoteCTRL> maria: ??? behave or leave
[10:58] <Angel-SL> If you don't want their help, fine with us
[10:58] <maria> Angel-SL  you are sillik girl
[10:58] <Angel-SL> ..
[10:58] <genii> I'm tempted to say that ted and ed are characters on the cd
[10:58] <Angel-SL> Does she think all of us here are children?
[10:58] <remoteCTRL> obviously...
[10:58] <maria> Angel-SL  i am 33 years old ok?
[10:59] <marco> remoteCTRL, tnks. just one more question. where do I get window decorations. beryl used to have a lot of them
[10:59] <kenkku> to quote austin powers: "oh behave!"
[10:59] <Angel-SL> maria: So?
[10:59] <Angel-SL> maria: Plus, I'm MALE, *****
[10:59] <maria> so i read this channel
[10:59] <naftilos76> Hello there! Can i interupt for a sec?????
[10:59] <Myrtti> eh.
[10:59] <naftilos76> hi every body, i've got a problem with a pci rt2500 card. I've got ubuntu UE (same as ubuntu 8.04) and although the wireless card is connected with the router having 47% signal, maximum download speed from a disk attached to the router is 20kbytes/s. It should normally be around 1MMbyte/s. At least that applied with other distros such as a previous fedora 8 installed...Anybody having anything to advise?
[10:59] <maria> i havent got a question
[10:59] <maria> ok?
[10:59] <bazhang> naftilos76, is that ubuntu ultimate?
[10:59] <naftilos76> yes colrrect!
[10:59] <boris92> could you go to PM?
[10:59] <remoteCTRL> marco you can download gnome-artng from: http://prdownload.berlios.de/gnomeartng/gnomeartng-0.6.0-all.deb or on http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120x121&PHPSESSID=6c80619c6c652f3b4085ff17acd0e1a8
[11:00] <bazhang> not supported here naftilos76
[11:00] <Myrtti> maria: if you do not have Ubuntu support questions, this channel isn't for you. This isn't a chatting channel
[11:00] <naftilos76> ok thanks...
[11:00] <remoteCTRL> !patience | naftilos76
[11:00] <bazhang> naftilos76, go to www.ubuntu.com and get the real deal :)
[11:00] <Mikeh> i really need some help
[11:01] <Angel-SL> don't ask to ask
[11:01] <Angel-SL> just ask your question
[11:01] <remoteCTRL> !ask | Mikeh
[11:01] <marco> my graphics card is a nvidia geforce 7050. is it ok? how many memory does it have?
[11:01] <remoteCTRL> marco: never heard of that model...
[11:02] <Mikeh> I installed ubuntu, and I thought it would be best to install on my D drive because that way windows would be completely seperate from Ubuntu, not realising Ubuntu would control my D drive. So all my computer backups are located (or WERE) on my D drive, but I cannot access them. I fear Ubuntu wiped my D drive a long with all my web development projects and backups. Anyway I can uninstall ubuntu and retrieve my D drive files?
[11:03] <Nix3r>  i got struck by a virus while runing windows. and all my video / audio files were deleted. then i re partitioned all drives. any good utility to recover my data, i havnt formated them yet.i heard there are softwares that can recover from formated partitions too..?
[11:03] <kenkku> Mikeh: if your formatted the D drive, no. how did you install ubuntu? did you do it by booting from the cd or did you install within windows ( wubi)?
[11:04] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: im afraid not, sorry...
[11:04] <Mikeh> i booted from the CD, within the demo of Ubuntu, and installed to the D drive. So windows loads fine, and is usable, except it cannot access the D drive
[11:04] <bazhang> Mikeh, was it wubi
[11:04] <kenkku> Mikeh: in that case, the files are gone, the partition has been overwritten by ubuntu, sorry
[11:05] <Mikeh> completely?
[11:05] <Mikeh> argh
[11:05] <kenkku> most probably
[11:05] <kenkku> we can make sure, just a moment
[11:05] <theclaw> My fonts in ubuntu 8.04 are too much "blurry", I made a screenshot here: http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8955/20080727115925614x111scvt9.png . Hinting already is set to "strong"
[11:05] <kenkku> do you have one hard driver or several?
[11:05] <theclaw> What to do about it?
[11:05] <Mikeh> i have two
[11:05] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: bakcup for important data is crucial (just for the future), strongly urge you to do that
[11:05] <Mikeh> C and D
[11:05] <bazhang> theclaw, looks fine here
[11:06] <Mikeh> i always back up weekly on my D drive
[11:06] <Angel-SL> theclaw: Yup. Looks fine here too.
[11:06] <Mikeh> not realising Ubuntu would spaz and wipe the entire thing
[11:06] <theclaw> bazhang, Angel-SL: i want it more "sharpened", as far as I can remember it was a lot sharper as I used debian
[11:06] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: in that case youre save:)
[11:06] <bazhang> Mikeh, formatting for any system would wipe it; nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:07] <Mikeh> but
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: maybe try a different font?
[11:07] <kenkku> Mikeh: and windows was on another, data on another? you installed ubuntu on the second HDD by selecting the "Guided - use entire disk*"?
[11:07] <adityag>  i want to write a program to draw a circle, i have the code for windows, how do i make it compatible with linux ?
[11:07] <Mikeh> i did =[
[11:07] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: any idea which I could try?
[11:07] <bazhang> adityag, what language
[11:07] <Mikeh> thinking it meant it just allowed it as much space as it needed
[11:07] <adityag> sorry C
[11:07] <remoteCTRL> adityag: what programming language?
[11:07] <kenkku> Mikeh: then everything is gone. I doubt that any recovery tool would find anything, since ubuntu has overwritten several gigabytes
[11:07] <Abed> i want to update the aMSN but i am a linux newbie and don't know how to do that i have this file amsn-0.97.1-1tcl85.x86.package
[11:08] <bazhang> build-essential adityag
[11:08] <inik2> adityag: algorithm stay same but sintax differs
[11:08] <Mikeh> so can I uninstall ubuntu and get my D drive back?
[11:08] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: I tried server, it looks blurry everywhere I think
[11:08] <remoteCTRL> adityag: basically if you use the windows libraries from ms not compatibel...
[11:08] <kenkku> Mikeh: the data will not be recoverable
[11:08] <bazhang> Mikeh, no system format (of any os) will allow that
[11:08] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: dunno, arial, courier, etc...?
[11:08] <adityag> how do i know about linux;s library ?
[11:09] <bazhang> adityag, you learn :)
[11:09] <Mikeh> well i still want my D drive back so that I can re-download all my projects from my servers through FTP
[11:09] <remoteCTRL> :D
[11:09] <bazhang> !fonts | theclaw
[11:09] <Angel-SL> Mikeh: Boot up to windows, and format D:\ to NTFS
[11:09] <Mikeh> If i reinstall Ubuntu partitioning inline with Windows, will it leave my D drive alone, and still dual boot windows?
[11:09] <kenkku> Mikeh: if you want to remove ubuntu, just delete all the partitions it created
[11:10] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: if you installed ubuntu with lvm you can shrink the partition, have a look into gparted
[11:10] <kenkku> Mikeh: you can alter the size of the ubuntu partition and use the remaining space to create a partition for windows to use
[11:10] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: and then use super grub disk to fix your mbr
[11:10] <adityag> bazhang: any references on the web pls?
[11:10] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: oh yeah, that too. or vista tools
[11:10] <bazhang> !compile
[11:10] <bazhang> hmm not that one
[11:10] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: it's the same everywhere
[11:11] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: alter IF you got lvm installed...
[11:11] <Mikeh> i know you can resize the partition when installing on the same drive as windows.. which will keep windows right?
[11:11] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: or if you boot into the livecd
[11:11] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: sorry mate but i cant recognize the cause for that, cos if it worked with debian it cannot be the monitors fault and ubuntu fonts usually dont ship blurry...
[11:12] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: you still need lvm then
[11:12] <Mikeh> so i need to restart, format my drive to NTFS?
[11:12] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: what? are you saying that partitions can't be resized without lvm..? :P
[11:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think i found the plugin i needed. but im going to test it out
[11:13] <theclaw> remoteCTRL: thanks though
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> Mikeh: take it easy there, or youll make matters worse! you can reinstall ubuntu when launching windows by using wubi, but you cannot install it parallely into one partition (wubi makes like a virtual pc)
[11:13] <blogi> Unable to start the network configuration tool.
[11:13] <blogi> Please setup sudo first! ----how can i fix  this?
[11:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> uh oh
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> theclaw: np
[11:13] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: yes?
[11:14] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: euh, what exactly IS lvm and is it installed by default?
[11:14] <bazhang> blogi, what is the issue
[11:14] <blogi> my other network card wont work
[11:14] <blogi> my eth1
[11:14] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: lvm is logical volume manager and you need to specify that on installation and that is only possible with the alternate cd
[11:14] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: but why would one be unable to resize a partition without it?
[11:15] <Mikeh> I was just wondering if i followed the normal procedure, and installing Ubuntu along side Windows, making the ubuntu partition smaller than windows, would I be able to uninstall it later?
[11:15] <bazhang> blogi, still this? what exactly are you trying to do; you have never clarified that.
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> blogi try entereing sudo network-manager into a terminal
[11:15] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: I think there's some misunderstanding here
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: afaik you can only resize a partition if you use lvm
[11:15] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, he's not sure what he wants to do. just a heads-up
[11:15] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: at least without loosing data?
[11:16] <blogi> i have two lan card...last time i ask for help its about the new lan card cant be detected but now i change the other lan card which can be detected now
[11:16] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: that sounds rediculous, I've resized loads of ext3 partitions with gparted from the livecd
[11:16] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: heh
[11:16] <Mikeh> you can resize the partition with the liveCD
[11:16] <blogi> but the problem now is that it cant connect to local even if i disable the eth0
[11:16] <bazhang> blogi, you have never clarified what you wish to do; please stop repeating the same without clarifying
[11:17] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: isn't lvm's idea that one can resize thevolumes while they are ONLINE?
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: that is so if you resize a non root partition
[11:17] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: yeah, but you can resize anything if it's not mounted
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: if you wanna resize the system partition you need to do it from a live cd
[11:17] <Dedoimedo> hi all, here to help, anyone needs help ...?
[11:17] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: unmounted only
[11:18] <blogi> ok.heres what im trying to do....i have 2 lan cards, 1 for the net(eth0) and the other one for local network (eth1
[11:18] <Mikeh> right im gonna restore my D drive and remove Ubuntu
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: nope? not without lvm?
[11:18] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: why not?
[11:18] <Mikeh> thanks for the help guys =] I may be back for some more advice BEFORE installing
[11:18] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: cos you cant
[11:18] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: I had lvm on fedora once, I decided I hated it, haven't used it after that
[11:18] <bazhang> blogi, internet connection sharing, file sharing, crossover cables to do so or what
[11:18] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: seriously, whycould you not resize a partition if it's not in use?
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> blogi: have a look at the application called firestarter
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:19] <remoteCTRL> blogi:  you find that under system/administration then
[11:19] <blogi> if i want to go to internet, ill just disable it and enable local...just like windows
[11:19] <krazy-h_> I want that my terminal speech all the word i type in
[11:19] <bazhang> blogi, you are not answering my questions.
[11:20] <rinaldi_> Hi, I've been away so haven't booted up recently. There were over 100 updates so I clicked install but some gave 404's such as wine (from the winehq repos) and things like firefox and php5. Any ideas what's going wrong? There are about 25 files giving the 404's.
[11:20] <blogi> errr...my eth0 for internet (just for internet purpose) and my eth1 for local network (ofis related work)
[11:20] <krazy-h_> Can somebody help me ?
[11:20] <remoteCTRL> krazy-h_: try orca reader
[11:20] <bazhang> blogi, you are just repeating without new info
[11:21] <blogi> hehehe...im confused
[11:21] <Dedoimedo> krazy-h what do you need?
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> blogi: we can see that:D
[11:21] <bazhang> blogi, clearly; this is for file sharing or other
[11:21] <blogi> i just need my eth1 to be connected localy
[11:21] <simeon> Hey can anyone help me with one issue?
[11:21] <remoteCTRL> blogi: or internet connection sharing or what?
[11:22] <blogi> i inputed the right static ips
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> !ask | simeon
[11:22] <bazhang> blogi, answer our questions.
[11:22] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: could you tell me why gparted supports resizing for example ext3, even though it does NOT support LVM?
[11:22] <simeon> It's about making an external HDD to mount a partition on a defined mount point
[11:22] <rinaldi_> nevermind, I tried the main server and it's fine, looks like there's a problem with the gb server.
[11:22] <remoteCTRL> kenkku: nope that is news to me
[11:22] <blogi> my local connection (eth1) is for filesharing and accessing the network
[11:23] <bazhang> blogi, choose one: a)file-sharing b)internet connection sharing c)other (explain)
[11:23] <Dedoimedo> simeon u want to mount an external hdd ????
[11:23] <blogi> file sharing
[11:23] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: well, that is the deal :) you're probably confused because lvm allows you to resize while the partition is online
[11:23] <Dedoimedo> karazy-h what did u want?
[11:23] <bazhang> blogi, use samba
[11:23] <kenkku> remoteCTRL: which is naturally not possible with ordinary partitioning tools
[11:23] <blogi> where can i get samba?
[11:24] <bazhang> !samba | blogi
[11:24] <Dedoimedo> blogi sudo apt-get install samba
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: is that true what kenkku says?
[11:24] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, about lvm?
[11:24] <bazhang> !lvm
[11:24] <Dragonator> Hello, I have a M3N78-EH motherboard and I found out that it is not fully supported in Ubuntu. More precisely, the SATA drives and the Network addapter are not detected and not functional. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/231159
[11:24] <Dragonator> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/231162
[11:24] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: about gparted being able to resize non lvm voumes?
[11:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> k
[11:24] <ynotest> how do i turn stop twinview from spanning across both screens >.< i used nvidia-settings to set it up
[11:24] <blogi> ok
[11:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> seems the icedtea java plugin works best for now
[11:25] <q_a_z_steve> so I'm not sure where the issue lies, but my qemu sessions (installed through synaptic) have serious trouble starting, I have to attempt like 5-10 times running my shell script before it will show the boot screen for OLPC ,img
[11:25] <Baby_Shambl3s> SNuxoll, the Nokia n-series have S60 3rd edition software am i right?
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: also with nvidia-settings
[11:25] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: any experience there?
[11:25] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, possible but risky
[11:25] <ynotest> where about is the option?
[11:25] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: tanks
[11:25] <blogi> my eth1 will function now with samba installed?
[11:25] <Baby_Shambl3s> damn wrong place
[11:25] <kenkku> bazhang: risky? seriously, resizing partitions with a tool like that is risky? why doesn't it tell that :o
[11:25] <kenkku> or maybe it does, haven't used it in a while
[11:26] <drtorres> Any help to configure WiFi for Acer 2920z laptop
[11:26] <arvind_khadri> !wifi | drtorres
[11:26] <bazhang> kenkku, via gparted livecd you mean?
[11:26] <spiel_mit_feuer> hey.. if someone was willing to take donations towards a commercial advertisement fund to push linux as a major desktop operating system.. would anyone go for it?
[11:26] <kenkku> bazhang: yes
[11:26] <arvind_khadri> spiel_mit_feuer,  #ubuntu-ot
[11:26] <Dragonator> I started the liveCD with the parameter all_generic_ide and it sees the SATA drive but I can't get my network to work. can someone please help?
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: cant tell without seeing it i only got one monitor but it is pretty selfexplanatory actually...
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <bazhang> kenkku, if you know what you are doing it is fine; always a risk when resizing though and Mik-eh did not seem very well informed to recommend that
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> !wifi | drtorres
[11:27] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | julieet
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <remoteCTRL> oops
[11:27] <bazhang> julieet, stop
[11:27] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: Please, can anyone help me with setting up qemu to share network between two sessions of olpc? Both have the same IP currently...
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <julieet> ..../s hub.starfmradio.org is my server and i need staff local global and services admin for my server pLz come to our world register your favourtie chans tHkX
[11:27] <ynotest> remoteCTRL: o btw nvidia-settings give me this error :( -> Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[11:27] <kenkku> bazhang: I mean the *tools* aren't unsafe, right? just the user?
[11:28] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, too fast :)
[11:28] <bazhang> kenkku, exactly
[11:28] <blogi> bazhang: just finished installing the samba...whats next?
[11:28] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: you need to run it with sudo
[11:28] <kenkku> bazhang: that's what I was kind of pursuing. it's safe to do it when the filesystem is closed properly, not mounted and so on?
[11:28] <ubuntu_> ubuntu-de
[11:28] <bazhang> blogi, have you even read any documents, or do you need a live tutorial here
[11:28] <blogi> ohh...hehehe...sorry
[11:28] <ynotest> ah thanks
[11:29] <bazhang> kenkku, absolutely safe if you know what you are doing; though many users dont :)
[11:29] <bazhang> kenkku, especially the very newer users
[11:29] <Dragonator> Hello, I have a M3N78-EH motherboard and I found out that it is not fully supported in Ubuntu. More precisely, the SATA drives and the Network addapter are not detected and not functional. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/231159 I started the liveCD with the parameter all_generic_ide and it sees the SATA drive but I can't get my network to work. can someone please help?
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> blogi: you have a system/administration/shared folders, coonfigure that
[11:29] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: np
[11:29] <spiel_mit_feuer> dont use the regular gcj java plugin.. itll make your browser crash everytime you run into a site with java
[11:30] <blogi> ok...
[11:30] <Fritten> What network adapter is that?
[11:30] <gaelfx> has anyone tried using NDISWrapper to install ethernet drivers in AMD64?
[11:30] <Dragonator> the onboard
[11:30] <q_a_z_steve> bazhang: sorry, but can you help me with qemu?
[11:30] <bazhang> q_a_z_steve, dont know much about it, but willing to learn
[11:30] <Fritten> Yes, but what manufacturer?
[11:31] <blogi> no shared folders under administration :(
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> Dragonator: difficult if not supported out of the box..
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> blogi: umm was it preferences?
[11:31] <bazhang> blogi, need to enable on the windows side; is that done?
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, there is a tutorial for that... AFAIR
[11:31] <ynotest> woohoo i got it working
[11:31] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: hehe
[11:31] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: for ETHERNET drivers/
[11:32] <Dragonator> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2102&l1=3&l2=149&l3=650&l4=0
[11:32] <arvind_khadri> gaelfx, which card??
[11:32] <remoteCTRL> ynotest: works as soon as you do it right eh? :D
[11:32] <gaelfx> arvind_khadri: nVidia MCP51
[11:32] <Dragonator> it says Phy Gigabit LAN, probably from Nvidia