[12:00] <cmatheson> thoreauputic: oh whoops, hehe sorry
[12:00] <cmatheson> thoreauputic: curse that stinkin' tab-completion
[12:00] <cmatheson> mumbles: hey did you run a make-kpkg clean before you did that command?
[12:00] <scoperesolution> eternale1, yo
[12:01] <eternale1> yo
[12:01] <scoperesolution> im lazy
[12:01] <ubuntu> lo
[12:01] <McScruff> help me, i cant log in
[12:01] <othernoob> scoperesolution: why do you need secureIM? too much cs? ;)
[12:01] <synstar> how can i get kopete to spellcheck when i write messges?
[12:01] <mumbles> cmatheson mumbles: hey did you run a make-kpkg clean before you did that command? erm how ?
[12:01] <McScruff> im writing message out now
[12:02] <tritium> McScruff, what happened that you can't login?
[12:02] <scoperesolution> othernoob, no one of my friends has a problem and he thinks that secureIM is the best thing in the world and he wont talk to you unless you are using it
[12:02] <eternale1> time loss that friend :D
[12:02] <eternale1> to
[12:02] <virgule> fanboy
[12:02] <othernoob> lol
[12:02] <scoperesolution> eternale1, thats not possible
[12:02] <othernoob> weird guy scoperesolution :/
[12:03] <tritium> scoperesolution, makes one wonder what his problem is.   It asks me how many discs should be active. 1 or 2 ?
[12:05] <scoperesolution> yeah we all dual boot
[12:05] <tritium> McScruff, F2 through F6 also work
[12:05] <tritium> scoperesolution, I don't
[12:05] <scoperesolution> i mean all my gaming friends
[12:05] <eternale1> i've come to use mp to do mvs
[12:05] <eternale1> while my windows box was down
[12:05] <eternale1> but ya
[12:05] <scoperesolution> yeah I might do that for my cobol tonight
[12:05] <scoperesolution> to lazy to restart in to xp
[12:05] <mumbles> :p
[12:06] <eternale1> the dreaded word cobol
[12:06] <tritium> McScruff, what are you using that might fill up your drive?
[12:06] <scoperesolution> COBOL!!!!!
[12:06] <mumbles> only luck yet cmatheson  ?
[12:06] <mumbles> any ?
[12:06] <eternale1> MOVE 'IHATETHISSHIT' TO OUT-RECORD
[12:06] <tritium> scoperesolution, are you taking a 1982 business course?
[12:06] <scoperesolution> haha
[12:06] <jubuntu> Is it possible to join ubuntu to Windows domain?
[12:06] <cmatheson> mumbles: did you ever run 'make-kpkg clean' before you ran that command?
[12:07] <scoperesolution> tritium,  no its a external data structs class
[12:07] <mumbles> just did a min ago
[12:07] <scoperesolution> using jcl, cobol and asm
[12:07] <mumbles> seams to be compiling
[12:07] <mumbles> but a bit of errors
[12:07] <scoperesolution> for the ibm 370 mainframe
[12:07] <tritium> scoperesolution, wow, amazing they still teach cobol
[12:07] <jubuntu> How?
[12:07] <scoperesolution> here at NIU they love it
[12:07] <mumbles> will use pastbin to show you ..
[12:08] <cmatheson> mumbles: what errors?
[12:08] <crimsun> actually one of the updates I install today to my IDE was for the COBOL plugin ;)
[12:08] <mumbles> not finished compiling yet
[12:08] <ErmaC`> can i get some VIP help with my screen-reso problem :p because it's still not fixed even with following the instructions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:08] <crimsun> installed^
[12:08] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok
[12:08] <scoperesolution> i would rather program in cobol than asm anyday
[12:08] <mumbles> ErmaC`,  what vidio card do u have?
[12:08] <scoperesolution> DP  424(8,13),432(3,13)
[12:08] <ErmaC`> i guess ATI
[12:08] <tritium> crimsun, no kidding...
[12:08] <scoperesolution> eternale1, remember that shit?
[12:08] <crimsun> tritium: yeah, I was a impressed
[12:08] <eternale1> bah
[12:08] <crimsun> -a
[12:08] <scoperesolution> haha
[12:09] <scoperesolution> packed numbers should die
[12:09] <eternale1> divide pack
[12:09] <eternale1> ?
[12:09] <jubuntu> Ubuntu Rocks!!!
[12:09] <scoperesolution> yeah
[12:09] <eternale1> *barf*
[12:09] <mumbles> lol.. garethdavis.net
[12:09] <scoperesolution> that was on the homework yesterday
[12:09] <scoperesolution> in the debugging thing i was doing
[12:09] <virgule> ErmaC': do you know your monitor's specs?
[12:10] <scoperesolution> eternale1, you get that vb shit working?
[12:10] <eternale1> ya
[12:10] <scoperesolution> sweet deal
[12:10] <scoperesolution> I wish I was in that class
[12:10] <eternale1> im kinda worried tho, i don't know which media player the TA
[12:10] <eternale1> has
[12:10] <eternale1> so i might just put two copies of it on the disk
[12:10] <scoperesolution> give both copies
[12:10] <eternale1> ya
[12:11] <scoperesolution> the code isnt that different to have both copies
[12:11] <tritium> What's the news McScruff ?
[12:11] <McScruff> lo, someone was helping me
[12:11] <McScruff> i went into virtual console and forgot the command
[12:11] <McScruff> how do i leave the console
[12:12] <scoperesolution> eternale1, what do you use for an editor, gedit?
[12:12] <tritium> McScruff, "df -h" for how much free disk space you have
[12:12] <thoreauputic> McScruff: alt-F7
[12:12] <atila> hello world
[12:12] <eternale1> well before i jumped to ubuntu i had used nano
[12:12] <eternale1> but lately gedit
[12:12] <tritium> atila, I can't speak for the whole world, but hello :)
[12:12] <atila> anyone able to play 3D games on ubuntu ?
[12:13] <McScruff> hmm
[12:13] <McScruff> it dont look like its showing my hdd's
[12:13] <atila> even tuxracer is too slow on my ATI9600Pro :-(
[12:13] <scoperesolution> I wanta start that program but I need something that allows tabs as spaces instead of t abs
[12:13] <atila> hi tritium :-)
[12:13] <scoperesolution> tab
[12:13] <scoperesolution> ss
[12:13] <tritium> McScruff, what is it showing you?
[12:13] <McScruff> well none match my hdd sizes and none are full
[12:13] <McScruff> can i print screen it
[12:14] <McScruff> or copy it
[12:14] <ErmaC`> If you are using XFree86 then you needed to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.           <<<< HOW THE FUCK DO I KNOW IF I'M USING THIS???
[12:14] <meeeeeeeeh> use pastebin.com
[12:14] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: X -version
[12:14] <atila> I tried to edit the XF86config but got even worse ...
[12:14] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: if you have Hoary you will have Xorg though
[12:14] <scoperesolution> well I am out of here need food and a shower since I just got off work
[12:14] <atila> luckily had a cp before messing around
[12:14] <tritium> ErmaC`, please don't ask for help in such a profane way
[12:15] <McScruff> its showing tempfs , dev and none
[12:15] <McScruff> no /dev/hda
[12:15] <mumbles> cmatheson,  it says its done
[12:15] <odiug> hi, i would like to know if ubuntu live cd 5.04 has the toram option as 4.10 did
[12:15] <ErmaC`> thoreauputic i have hoary yes...
[12:15] <khermans> Anyone have gvidcap / xvidcap installed?
[12:15] <atila> I have hoary too I guess
[12:15] <khermans> I don't see it in the repos, even for uni/multiverse
[12:15] <mumbles> confused now
[12:15] <tritium> McScruff, what does "mount" tell you is mounted?
[12:15] <loudestmouse> Hello.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: then you have xorg version 6.8.2 or so
[12:15] <ErmaC`> (downloaded the ISO-file of  the installdisk of the latest version of ubuntu) so...
[12:15] <ErmaC`> X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-10<PHONE_NUMBER>4308<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:15] <ErmaC`> Release Date: 9 February 2005
[12:15] <ErmaC`> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
[12:15] <ErmaC`> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.10 i686 [ELF]
[12:15] <ErmaC`> Current Operating System: Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686
[12:16] <ErmaC`> indeed
[12:16] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok, install it w/ dpkg -i
[12:16] <loudestmouse> Can I ask a question?
[12:16] <cmatheson> mumbles: er wait, was that just clean?
[12:16] <tritium> loudestmouse, of course
[12:16] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: please read the topic re: pasting
[12:16] <cmatheson> mumbles: or did your rebuild it to?
[12:16] <othernoob> ErmaC`: what do you think is the purpose of a site like pastebin.com ?
[12:16] <XRayNuke> !javaplugin
[12:16] <ubotu> XRayNuke: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:16] <khermans> Does "apt-cache search xvidcap" return any results to someone?
[12:16] <McScruff> tritium can i pm, then i wont spam the channel
[12:16] <thoreauputic> !flood
[12:16] <ubotu> from memory, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:16] <ErmaC`> othernoob,  how should i know? i'm new to linux...
[12:17] <tritium> XRayNuke, the mozilla java plugin is installed if you install the .deb created from java-package
[12:17] <tritium> McScruff, ok
[12:17] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: read the /topic when you enter a channel
[12:17] <loudestmouse> tritium: I am having trouble with broken files. I need to know how to add debian archive into pakage manager.
[12:17] <atila> anyone help me ?
[12:17] <XRayNuke> tritium: successfully installed that deb, java not showing up in Firefox's about:plugins.
[12:17] <othernoob> ErmaC`: a site like that isn't only used for linux. but it is used to paste long outputs of commands for example ;)
[12:17] <tritium> loudestmouse, you really shoudn't use debian repos.
[12:17] <mumbles> cmatheson,  i rebilt it
[12:18] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: to read it at any time just type /topic
[12:18] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok, so now there is two .deb files in /usr/src?
[12:18] <tritium> XRayNuke, after restarting firefox?
[12:18] <khermans> Anyonw have XVIDCAP ?!??!?!
[12:18] <ErmaC`> sorry then...
[12:18] <mumbles> i have 2
[12:18] <loudestmouse> tritium why? There is much ubuntu wise unless there is another package depository I don't know about.
[12:18] <zoofields> khermans, nope just tried it
[12:18] <mumbles> 386 and 686
[12:18] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: well, you know now I guess :)
[12:18] <cmatheson> mumbles: oh good, dpkg -i the 386 one
[12:18] <tritium> loudestmouse, you likely don't have universe and multiverse enabled
[12:18] <zoofields> khermans, I got nothing from apt-cache
[12:19] <khermans> zoofields, thanks -- someone earlier today told me it was in universe
[12:19] <loudestmouse> Tritium: ??????
[12:19] <tritium> loudestmouse, there are very few packages that debian has that ubuntu does not
[12:19] <XRayNuke> tritium: yes. I've restarted firefox and made sure every firefox process was dead, ps ax | grep firefox shows nothing
[12:19] <tritium> !repositories
[12:19] <zoofields> khermans, I have it enabled and I don't get that package
[12:19] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:19] <tritium> loudestmouse, ^^^
[12:19] <khermans> yeah, he must be a liar then...
[12:19] <khermans> lol
[12:19] <mumbles> Setting up alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-386 (1.0.8-4ubuntu4+10.00.Custom) ...
[12:19] <mumbles> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[12:19] <mumbles> Reloading sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[12:19] <loudestmouse> tritium: I don't understand universe and multiverse enabled.
[12:20] <tritium> loudestmouse, see the URL above regarding adding repositories
[12:20] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok, now type 'modprobe snd-azx'
[12:20] <thoreauputic> loudestmouse: that's why he got the bot to give you an URL
[12:20] <arc> hi all
[12:20] <loudestmouse> Thank you
[12:20] <arc> there is no gcc 2.95 for ubuntu?
[12:20] <tritium> thoreauputic, heh, I finally learned how to use the darn thing ;)
[12:20] <mumbles> cmatheson, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/560
[12:21] <thoreauputic> arc: any reason you need 2.95 ?
[12:21] <XRayNuke> loudestmouse: System menu, Administration, Synaptic, enter your password, Settings menu, Repositories, Add, Ubuntu (your version), click all the checkboxes.
[12:21] <XRayNuke> assuming you have a GUI running.
[12:21] <cmatheson> mumbles: you need to stick sudo in front of that
[12:21] <arc> thoreauputic: do you know what nachos is?
[12:21] <XRayNuke> loudestmouse: then hit OK a few times.
[12:21] <zausband> anybody help me with an install I am new to linux and ubuntu
[12:21] <atila> can anyone please give me an URL to setup ATI9600Pro ? pretty please ?
[12:21] <tritium> XRayNuke, still no luck?
[12:21] <thoreauputic> arc: I thought it was Mexican food ... *grin*
[12:21] <arc> thoreauputic: hahaha
[12:21] <mumbles> oh done that cmatheson
[12:22] <XRayNuke> tritium: nope. Firefox still claims no plugins are installed.
[12:22] <arc> thoreauputic: well, it is an operating system too, over a virtual machine, it is developed for academic pruposes
[12:22] <cmatheson> mumbles: but you still get the permission errors?
[12:22] <XRayNuke> tritium: where does the firefox plugins folder live on Ubuntu, so I can check to make sure the files are there?
[12:22] <mumbles> XRayNuke,  you made shroe tha tyou installied it o mozzia-firefox
[12:22] <atila> can anyone please give me an URL to setup ATI9600Pro ? pretty please ?
[12:22] <mumbles> or wherever the firefox thing is ?
[12:22] <loudestmouse> tritium: I get the idea. Thanks again
[12:22] <tritium> loudestmouse, sure thing :)
[12:22] <arc> thoreauputic: and it is developed on c++, and it has a lot of g++ 2.95 "features"
[12:22] <mumbles> cmatheson,  no permission errors
[12:22] <tritium> XRayNuke, let me check
[12:22] <arc> thoreauputic: recoding it is a pain in the ass
[12:23] <thoreauputic> arc: I see
[12:23] <ErmaC`> ok, you don't know how happy i'm now!!! whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii my resolution is fixed ... fucking 1 char. i had to change whiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:23] <tritium> ErmaC`, please watch the profanity!
[12:23] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok, now type 'ls /dev/dsp'
[12:23] <ErmaC`> thanks a lot everyone for help here ;)
[12:23] <atila> me wanna be happy too ...
[12:23] <atila> can anyone please give me an URL to setup ATI9600Pro ? pretty please ?
[12:23] <ErmaC`> tritium,  how you mean?
[12:23] <cmatheson> atila: www.google.com
[12:23] <zausband> I get configure:error no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH??
[12:23] <aru_> !ati
[12:23] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:23] <atila> lol tried that already
[12:23] <tritium> ErmaC`, like tone it down.
[12:23] <thoreauputic> tritium: he doesn't know what "profanity" is ;)
[12:24] <ErmaC`> ok sorry :$
[12:24] <mumbles> cm done
[12:24] <atila> well;
[12:24] <cmatheson> mumbles: no errors?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: like, the F word is unecessary, dude
[12:24] <atila> gonna try some more ...
[12:24] <atila> c ya all
[12:24] <atila> over and exit
[12:24] <ErmaC`> ok sorry thoreauputic
[12:24] <mumbles> yay
[12:25] <cmatheson> haha, yay!
[12:25] <m0biu5> what FTP client do you all prefer?
[12:25] <nightswim> lftp
[12:25] <Gentleman_finn> hey, how can i change JAVA_HOME ??
[12:25] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: it's OK - doesn't bother me personally, but some people might be offended, that's all ;-)
[12:25] <ErmaC`> ;)
[12:26] <m0biu5> why nightswim?
[12:26] <ErmaC`> some little childs who are here at 0 am (h)
[12:26] <ErmaC`> :p
[12:26] <mumbles> goes to play some mp3s
[12:26] <zausband> Why do I get "no acceptable C compiler found in #PATH ?
[12:26] <hondje> zausband: because you ahven't installed gcc?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: well, not just that - there are many cultures and attitudes within the community and we need to respect them
[12:27] <hondje> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:27] <tritium> XRayNuke, /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:27] <tritium> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29
[12:27] <tritium> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:27] <thoreauputic> zausband: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:27] <ErmaC`> oh yeah sorry i understand wath you mean thoreauputic
[12:27] <anacaona> hello all
[12:27] <mumbles> got sound but xmms dosent like my mp3s
[12:27] <thoreauputic> zausband: or find build-essential in synaptic package manager
[12:27] <anacaona> i've set up an ubuntu file server at work
[12:28] <anacaona> we use dial up (we're that poor)
[12:28] <zausband> That is all I should do? Sorry for the ignorance, newbie :(
[12:28] <anacaona> i haven't found a way for ubuntu to use the modem as default gateway when connected to the net.
[12:28] <tritium> XRayNuke, try "dpkg -L sun-j2re1.5 | grep libjavaplugin"
[12:28] <thoreauputic> zausband: that package will install gcc , g ++, make etc for you
[12:29] <neoliminal> What is a good apache web traffic analyser?
[12:29] <anacaona> i have to disconnect from the network (disable eth0), use the Net, disconnect, then reconnect to the network .
[12:29] <anacaona> there's gotta be a better way
[12:29] <anacaona> btw, we're networking through a router
[12:29] <thoreauputic> anacaona: normally a ppp dialup doesn't need a default gateway set, unless you use NAT
[12:29] <zausband> Thanks for the help. been using windows foe over 10 years and I am moving away from that
[12:30] <mumbles> can play cds though
[12:30] <tritium> XRayNuke, good luck.  I'll be away for a while.
[12:30] <anacaona> in the networking wizard, there's a default gateway pull-down menu.
[12:30] <mumbles> guess i wont be forking out 30 quid for a new sound card
[12:30] <XRayNuke> tritium: installed JDK rather than JRE. have /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin ... .so
[12:30] <nalioth> howdy
[12:30] <XRayNuke> tritium: okay, thanks for your help
[12:30] <anacaona> if its set to eth0 when i connect, i don't have an internet connection.
[12:30] <thoreauputic> anacaona: the IP of your router would be the default gateway I suppose
[12:30] <tritium> XRayNuke, sure.
[12:31] <anacaona> and if the eth0 is configured and active, the wizard won't let me choose the modem as the gateway.
[12:31] <anacaona> thoreaputic: the router is not the gateway because its not connected to the net
[12:31] <mumbles> anacaona,
[12:31] <thoreauputic> anacaona: umm.... the router is connected to the modem then, right?
[12:32] <anacaona> no.
[12:32] <mumbles> so whats your setup?
[12:32] <anacaona> the modem is a dial-up modem inside the server.
[12:32] <thoreauputic> anacaona: in which case the router is the gateway
[12:32] <anacaona> remember those?
[12:32] <anacaona> 56k?
[12:32] <neoliminal> I'm going to be hosting a website from my ubuntu box and I want to be able to look at the traffic that s coming and see if the server gets overloaded.
[12:32] <mumbles> anacaona,  try wahever machene is the dnsserver ?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> anacaona: I have dialup here, and NAT, and the gateway is the machine the modem is connected to
[12:33] <neoliminal> I'm scared that the box might not be able to handle the amount of requests coming and thta I would have to move to better machine.
[12:33] <bpuccio> neoliminal: try using rrdtool (apt-get able as well)
[12:33] <neoliminal> anyone know how to measure something like that?
[12:33] <tritium> XRayNuke, I have a /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so which is a  symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so'
[12:34] <neoliminal> bpucccio: rrdtool?
[12:34] <tritium> hope that helps.  see you later
[12:34] <phillambrechts> i have a firefox problem, when i goto print it completely crashes firefox.
[12:34] <bpuccio> it generates pretty graphs for load, cpu use, # of proccess, free harddrive space, etc
[12:34] <phillambrechts> And i can't reinstall it because there is a cairo error
[12:34] <neoliminal> bpuccio: thanks!!  will do.
[12:34] <bpuccio> neoliminal: yes, for something that is "already together" you might want to try hotsanic
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #----------------------------------PLEASE NOTE---------------------------------#
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #This file is the author's own work and represents their interpretation of the #
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #song. You may only use this file for private study, scholarship, or research. #
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #------------------------------------------------------------------------------##
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #----------------------------------PLEASE NOTE---------------------------------#
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #This file is the author's own work and represents their interpretation of the #
[12:34] <bpuccio> it uses rrdtool along with a bunch of presets
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #song. You may only use this file for private study, scholarship, or research. #
[12:34] <phillambrechts> #------------------------------------------------------------------------------#
[12:35] <phillambrechts> #
[12:35] <phillambrechts>                        Eight Days A Week
[12:35] <cmatheson> phillambrechts: don't dump crap in here
[12:35] <phillambrechts>        Words and Music by John Lennon and Paul McCartney
[12:35] <phillambrechts>     Typed and Transcribed by Jordan Kelly<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:35] <phillambrechts> Intro
[12:35] <phillambrechts> (fade in)
[12:35] <phillambrechts> (let ring)
[12:35] <phillambrechts>    D                            E
[12:35] <phillambrechts> E|--0---------0-----0-------0--|-0--------0----0------0--------|
[12:35] <jp__> ?
[12:35] <phillambrechts> B|-10--------10----12------10--|12-------12---14-----12--------|
[12:35] <phillambrechts> G|-11--------11----11------11--|13-------13---13-----13--------|
[12:35] <thoreauputic> anacaona: if the modem is an internal modem, are you sure it is supported in Linux (ie not a winmodem?)
[12:35] <bpuccio> neoliminal: http://hotsanic.sourceforge.net/
[12:35] <phillambrechts> D|-12--------12----12------12--|14-------14---14-----14--------|
[12:35] <neoliminal> someone kill that thing
[12:35] <phillambrechts> A|--------------------------- -|-------------------------------|
[12:35] <phillambrechts> E|-----------------------------|-------------------------------|
[12:35] <phillambrechts>    G                            D
[12:35] <phillambrechts> E|--0---------0-----0-------0--|-0--------0----0------0--------|
[12:35] <McScruff> lo
[12:35] <phillambrechts> B|-15--------15----17------15--|10-------10---12-----10--------|
[12:35] <cmatheson> neoliminal: /ignore?
[12:35] <Discipulus> phillambrechts, wtf are you doing?
[12:35] <phillambrechts> G|-16--------16----16------16--|11-------11---13-----11--------|
[12:35] <phillambrechts> D|-17--------17----17------17--|12-------12---14-----12--------|
[12:35] <phillambrechts> A|-----------------------------|-------------------------------|
[12:35] <phillambrechts> E|-----------------------------|-------------------------------|
[12:35] <aru_> I think thats a guitar tab
[12:35] <phillambrechts> Verse 1:
[12:35] <phillambrechts> D                 E            G                   D
[12:35] <phillambrechts> Oo, I need your love, babe,  guess you know it's true
[12:35] <phillambrechts> D                  E           G                 D
[12:35] <bpuccio> ugh, this is really not necessary, is it phillambrechts?
[12:35] <anacaona> thoreaputic: ok, here's the setup
[12:35] <phillambrechts> Hope you need my love, babe,  just like I need you
[12:35] <phillambrechts> Chorus:
[12:35] <Discipulus> aru_, that is a guitar tab
[12:35] <phillambrechts>  Bm           G         Bm           E
[12:36] <phillambrechts> Hold me,    love me,   Hold me,     love me,
[12:36] <phillambrechts>    D                      E          G
[12:36] <neoliminal> it's not working
[12:36] <phillambrechts> crap
[12:36] <neoliminal> arg
[12:36] <phillambrechts> sry
[12:36] <Discipulus> someone fuckin kick him already
[12:36] <thoreauputic> tritium: can you +q this idiot please?
[12:36] <phillambrechts> wrong copy and paste
[12:36] <phillambrechts> I'm sorry
[12:36] <bpuccio> neoliminal: http://hotsanic.sourceforge.net/example/index.html is the sample output
[12:36] <phillambrechts> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:36] <phillambrechts> relax, it was an accident
[12:36] <aru_> excellent, I was about to ask for a giant guitar tab to enlighten my chatting experience
[12:36] <phillambrechts> it was :)
[12:36] <phillambrechts> it was a fucking accident
[12:36] <ErmaC`> can someone help me to configure ALSA?
[12:36] <anacaona> machine a: linux fileserver, with 56k modem connected to router through eth0
[12:36] <neoliminal> bpuccio: that's hotsanic?
[12:36] <bpuccio> neoliminal: hotsanic is apt-get able, though you will need to configure it, it might take you a few minutes to figure it out, but it works pretty OK
[12:37] <phillambrechts> ok...
[12:37] <bpuccio> neoliminal: yes, that's hotsanic, it usses rrdtool to create the graphs
[12:37] <ErmaC`> thoreauputic,  do you have something like that website for screen resolutions, but for configuring ALSA?
[12:37] <neoliminal> bpuccio: ok thanks.
[12:37] <anacaona> if i dialup with eth0 active, there's no connection to the outside world because the network setup wizard only allows eth0 as gateway.
[12:37] <neoliminal> bpuccio: so I need both rrdtool and hotsanic?
[12:37] <nalioth> phillambrechts: i'd like to see a musical error msg from apt on my machine
[12:37] <tritium> thoreauputic, thanks for notifying me
[12:37] <thoreauputic> tritium: no probs
[12:38] <phillambrechts> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:38] <phillambrechts> Segmentation fault
[12:38] <bpuccio> neoliminal: if you apt-get isntall hotsanic, it will automagically pull in rrdtool
[12:38] <nalioth> phillambrechts: watch ubotu
[12:38] <bpuccio> it's a package dependancy
[12:38] <nalioth> !usrepos
[12:38] <ubotu> I guess usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:38] <phillambrechts> thats the error when i start firefox from the console and crash
[12:38] <neoliminal> bpuccio: ok thanks
[12:38] <phillambrechts> ubotu?
[12:38] <bpuccio> neoliminal: sure, no problem
[12:39] <auk> !ubotu
[12:39] <ubotu> hmm... ubotu is uh...  Thaaats me!
[12:39] <ErmaC`> thoreauputic,  do you have something like that website for screen resolutions, but for configuring ALSA?
[12:39] <auk> !ubotu die
[12:39] <ubotu> auk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:39] <phillambrechts> why would i watch ubotu?
[12:39] <auk> !die
[12:39] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: sorry, i don't know what you mean
[12:39] <ErmaC`> well
[12:39] <ErmaC`> i need to configure alsa
[12:39] <ErmaC`> and i don't know how to do
[12:39] <ErmaC`> :(
[12:40] <phillambrechts> Can anyone help me reinstall firefox to see if this printing crash goes away
[12:40] <thoreauputic> phillambrechts: you watch what ubotu says because it's usually a useful URL related to your problem if someone invokes the bot's help
[12:41] <phillambrechts> oh
[12:41] <phillambrechts> I figured it out
[12:41] <phillambrechts> I was using the glider theme before and when i switched to clearlooks the printing dialog didn't force it to crash
[12:44] <McScruff> tritium, it works now, cheers
[12:45] <tanki> is there a ubuntu channel for mingling
[12:45] <blmartin777> mingling about what
[12:46] <othernoob> tritium, if i installed a 386.deb file on a 686 kernel, would i get an error message saying it didnt match the architecture?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> othernoob: no
[12:46] <tanki> current events, anything offtopic
[12:46] <aru_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:46] <othernoob> thoreauputic: why's a user getting it then if he has a p4 686 using the 686 kernel?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> othernoob: unless it's directly kernel-related
[12:47] <nalioth> using gpg, how do you tell when your key has been signed?
[12:47] <othernoob> thoreauputic: it's a precompiled OOo package
[12:47] <SDFH_Linux> how do you install kde?
[12:47] <SDFH_Linux> and which kde is it?
[12:47] <thoreauputic> othernoob: should run fine AFAIK
[12:47] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: install "kubuntu-desktop" pkg
[12:47] <othernoob> thoreauputic: that's what i thought too. but a user i'm trying to help encounters this
[12:47] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: it should be 3.4.0
[12:47] <SDFH_Linux> which kde is it
[12:48] <mumbles> whats the umask for read right permsions ?
[12:48] <mumbles> for fstab ?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> othernoob: is the user sure it's actually a 386 package? And appropriate for Ubuntu?
[12:48] <nalioth> mumbles: i have umask=000 in mine
[12:49] <mumbles> thouht it was
[12:49] <jp__> what package have I install to get gnome remote desktop configuration program? (I installed olny a few gnome things)? Thanks :)
[12:49] <othernoob> thoreauputic: it didn't mention 386 in the filename, but he's getting the message that architecture isn't 386. and I use a precompiled OOo.deb package from the same ftp site as well and had no problems
[12:50] <thoreauputic> othernoob: very odd then...
[12:50] <othernoob> thoreauputic: indeed
[12:50] <gverig> hey!
[12:50] <nessmuk> can we run Firefox 1.05 in Hoary?
[12:50] <gverig> I lost my audio... How can I debug the problem?
[12:50] <othernoob> thoreauputic: should i tell him to download the a bit older .deb package(the same i have) and try?
[12:50] <gverig> ESD is up and  running
[12:50] <othernoob> i mean, it's 100 mb
[12:50] <nalioth> nessmuk: if you must
[12:51] <ith> how
[12:51] <nessmuk> malioth...are there good reasons not to? I thought the hype about the security upgrades sounded cool
[12:51] <gverig> my user is a member of audio group
[12:51] <thoreauputic> othernoob: I guess if yours works on the same arch, yeah, worth a shot
[12:51] <ith> i;m a newbi
[12:51] <jp__> what package have I install to get gnome remote desktop configuration program? (I installed olny a few gnome things)? Thanks :)
[12:51] <thoreauputic> othernoob: I hope he has a better connection than mine ;)
[12:51] <nalioth> nessmuk: the currently available ff 1.0.2 in hoary has the security fixes from .4 in it (but it is still .2 featureset)
[12:52] <nessmuk> mal...yeah....the current v is good enough for me
[12:52] <othernoob> thoreauputic: 3mbit
[12:52] <gverig> nessmuk: AFAIK not from aptget (at least not from ubuntu aptget). Nothing is stopping you from installing it yourself though
[12:52] <nalioth> nessmuk: so UNLESS you NEED the featureset in 1.0.5, i'm sure the security features will roll into our ff very soon
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> 1.0.4 is the latest version? 1.0.5 out?
[12:52] <thoreauputic> jp__: if I understand you correctly you want remote login? In that case you need gdm
[12:52] <nessmuk> mal...thnx...bye
[12:52] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: 1.0.5 is out
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> cool then i'm downloadin it..
[12:53] <_roadie> hi guys
[12:53] <kdp> ok i just installed ubuntu and now when i try to boot into windows it says "cannot find hal.dll"
[12:53] <kdp> does anyone know what to do?
[12:53] <jp__> what package have I install to get gnome remote desktop configuration program? (I installed olny a few gnome things)? Thanks :)
[12:53] <nalioth> jp__: thoreauputic answered you above
[12:53] <_roadie> OT question: anyone ever have any problems with members.yahoo.com searches getting back 0 results all the time
[12:53] <_roadie> ?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> jp__: umm - did you read my message??
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> kdp : live without windows..
[12:54] <nalioth> using gpg, how do you tell when your key has been signed?
[12:54] <kdp> thats not an option.
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> dont understand why slashdot aint coverin the firefox release...
[12:55] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: they did, you missed it
[12:55] <thoreauputic> kdp: but it sounds like a windows problem, not a linux problem?
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> oh...
[12:55] <kdp> yes, but it happened after i installed ubuntu.  maybe someone else has this problem?
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> stupid dialup can only connect @ night
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> so i miss 12hrs of the day
[12:55] <jp__> thoreauputic yep, I have gdm, I'm talking about a GNOME programs that configures remote desktop options when you go to: # System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop... what's that programs to install it 'cause I haven't it????
[12:56] <nalioth> kdp: boot into safe mode and (whats the name of that program that makes sure all the proggys are "microsoft standard"?)
[12:56] <kdp> ive seen lots of things that say edit boot.ini
[12:57] <kdp> and the grub menu
[12:57] <kdp> and ive tried those
[12:57] <nalioth> kdp: safe mode, and run "system file checker" or whatever its called
[12:57] <kdp> ok
[12:57] <CookieNinja> has anyone managed to compile gens (megadrive emulator) for ubuntu ? pls don't suggest another one, because i want gens for a reason
[12:57] <nalioth> thoreauputic: did i just give windows advice? i must be in a rEAllY good mood
[12:57] <jp__> thoreauputic yep, I have gdm, I'm talking about a GNOME programs that configures remote desktop options when you go to: # System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop... what program have I to install????
[12:57] <flodine> anyone using colors in terminal
[12:58] <jp__> gnome-remote-desktop?
[12:58] <jp__> I really don't know
[12:58] <nalioth> jp__: u like console or gui?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> nalioth: hahah - well better you than me: I know almost nothing about windows
[12:58] <kdp> nalioth: wait that wont work b/c windows cant run HAL. it stops before i can get to safe mode
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> i havent used windows sinec slackware 9.1
[12:58] <teferi_> nalioth: boot from your windows cd
[12:58] <thoreauputic> jp__: I don't know, sorry
[12:58] <teferi_> tell it to 'repair installation'
[12:58] <flodine> come on am i the only onr doing colors in ubuntu
[12:58] <jp__> WTF!
[12:58] <kdp> teferi_: thats me, no naolith
[12:59] <lsuactiafner> around windows 2000 lost me
[12:59] <teferi_> er
[12:59] <teferi_> sorry
[12:59] <nalioth> kdp: boot with your winXP cd and run system file checker
[12:59] <kdp> ok
[12:59] <teferi_> that's what i just said :P
[12:59] <jp__> why have I to ask newbie question on #ubuntu-devel? I know that they know the answers
[12:59] <thoreauputic> jp__: someone else might
[12:59] <jp__> wtf
[12:59] <pax> anyone installed ff 1.05?
[12:59] <nalioth> teferi_: sorry, i'm watching tv and chatting at the same time
[01:00] <nalioth> i hate it when they don't answer my ???s
[01:00] <mumbles> pax doing it now
[01:00] <pax> mumbles: let me know how it goes
[01:01] <mumbles> no problems so far
[01:01] <nalioth> pax: check it out from cvs and build it, it's easy
[01:01] <nalioth> thoreauputic: i had an answer for him, he was just gonna have to go get it
[01:01] <pax> nalioth I know it's easy :)
[01:02] <thoreauputic> nalioth: well, it's his own impatience that finished him then.. too bad for him
[01:02] <nalioth> we'll see him back
[01:02] <nalioth> we see everyone back
[01:03] <mumbles> pax https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingFirefox?highlight=%28firefox%29
[01:03] <pax> ty
[01:03] <nalioth> i'm getting a new job where i have to officially speak spanish
[01:03] <othernoob> pax: are you swedish?
[01:03] <nalioth> and i'm a poor gringo
[01:03] <pax> othernoob: no, I'm iraqi
[01:03] <nalioth> using gpg, how do you tell when your key has been signed?
[01:04] <othernoob> pax: ah okay, had a swedish friend with the same nickname :)
[01:04] <thoreauputic> nalioth: he shouldn't have addressed his question to me personally anyway - I don't know why he assumed I would know
[01:04] <othernoob> thoreauputic: charisma ;)
[01:04] <pax> othernoob: I wacked him and took his name :p
[01:04] <nalioth> thoreauputic: b/c you have such an impressive nick
[01:04] <othernoob> pax lol
[01:04] <thoreauputic> othernoob: haha
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : ff 1.0.5 self-compile easy?
[01:05] <mumbles> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingFirefox?highlight=%28firefox%29
[01:05] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: a link was just posted above from mumbles
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> usually i get a bug that make -i doesnt ignore
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> lets see..
[01:05] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: then you don't have enough dev libs installed, go get more
[01:06] <Charlie_Snoopy> hello all
[01:06] <Charlie_Snoopy> wassup
[01:06] <l337Ni> oh oh
[01:06] <blmartin777> pax: where are you from
[01:06] <pax> blmartin777: scroll back.
[01:06] <blmartin777> where at in iraq
[01:06] <pax> blmartin777: I live in teh us
[01:07] <Will_> I live in teh me!
[01:07] <mumbles> herm pax your name remineds me of that blogger for iraq... a salam i think
[01:07] <pax> blmartin777: and no, I'm not salampax
[01:07] <will> what
[01:07] <will> your called will humm
[01:07] <blmartin777> pax: I am just curious how are things there
[01:08] <mumbles> pax blmartin777: I live in teh us
[01:08] <pax> blmartin777: I wouldnt know or discuss that stuff in this room by respect for thr topic :)
[01:08] <blmartin777> sorry i missed that
[01:08] <blmartin777> Your right
[01:08] <blmartin777> Sorry
[01:10] <Charlie_Snoopy> anyone with probs installing ubuntu 4.10 in a acer Aspire 1690 i
[01:10] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : i got 800mb of dev
[01:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> if there was an error while checking packages, how can i check, and sane this?
[01:11] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: howdy
[01:11] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: i was joking
[01:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> nalioth: hi!! 1 week ubuntized...
[01:11] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: an md5 error?
[01:11] <ateves> is there something like the kwifimanager for gnome?
[01:12] <XRayNuke> Why does flashplugin-nonfree install ruby?
[01:12] <nalioth> ateves: you can use kwifimangler under gnome
[01:12] <Aragorn_Guardian> SYSTEM HAS BROKEN PACKAGES
[01:12] <crimsun> XRayNuke: that's what it uses to retrieve it
[01:12] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: are you using nonofficial repositories?
[01:12] <ateves> yes, but it cannot start in tray-mode
[01:12] <gangalee> what calls inittab in booting?
[01:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> i dont...is another user...but i think no...is a recent instalation
[01:13] <nalioth> ateves: so it doesnt.. ..
[01:13] <crimsun> gangalee: the kernel invokes init
[01:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> universe is supported, right?
[01:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> multiverse, too?
[01:13] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: so open a terminal
[01:13] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: by the community
[01:13] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: and multiverse
[01:13] <crimsun> not by Ubuntu
[01:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> right
[01:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> ok
[01:14] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: now type "sudo apt-get -f install"    with no pkgs invoked
[01:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> right
[01:14] <Jogariga> i just got my powerbook to work with a verizon evdo card. I just need a wireless meter app to check the signal. Any ideas?
[01:15] <nalioth> Jogariga: there is one on gnome, right click on your panel and look for network thingy
[01:16] <gangalee> crimsun: I messed up my partition table & I think my system is unable to find /etc/ (and therefore /etc/inittab). Is there a way to specify the location of /etc/inittab?
[01:17] <Jogariga> nalioth: i don't see it
[01:17] <Charlie_Snoopy> someone with ubuntu on a acer
[01:18] <nalioth> Jogariga: right click on a panel, > add to panel > network monitor
[01:18] <nalioth> using gpg, how do you tell when your key has been signed?
[01:18] <Jogariga> nalioth: that's not what i need. I need a signal bar indicator like in cellphones
[01:18] <Aragorn_Guardian> nalioth: nice...done...the package was fixed..thanks
[01:19] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: thats why #ubuntu is here
[01:19] <nalioth> Jogariga: i have a signal bar on mine
[01:19] <Jogariga> nalioth: i have two monitors on mine
[01:20] <nalioth> Jogariga: so open the prefs and choose your network interface
[01:20] <pax> pgp -ks "my key" ?
[01:20] <seth_k> nalioth: refresh your key from a keyserver, then gpg --list-sigs yourkey
[01:20] <Jogariga> nalioth: i selected my evdo connection (ppp0) and it doesn't show the bars
[01:20] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[01:21] <nalioth> seth_k: ok i did the refresh thing, but kgpg screwed it off or something
[01:21] <nalioth> seth_k: time for the command line
[01:21] <seth_k> kgpg is pretty outdated, it kinda breaks on me too
[01:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> my sound disappear after install xmms and all libs for mp3... :/
[01:21] <gangalee> any Init experts?
[01:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> even procedures in ubuntuguide dont resolve my problem...
[01:21] <zukalk> ubuntuguide is evil
[01:22] <nalioth> Aragorn_Guardian: stay away from there, it might lead you into more trouble
[01:22] <redlounge> hi. i installed samba and added a new user to share some files with a friend. anyone can help me to disable local login for this user? thx
[01:23] <nalioth> redlounge: did you use system > admin > users & groups    ?
[01:23] <redlounge> nalioth, no
[01:23] <crimsun> gangalee: it's always /etc/inittab
[01:23] <crimsun> gangalee: you can specify init, though
[01:23] <pax> redlounge: install swat, it'll make your samba much easier
[01:23] <Jogariga> nalioth: do you have an evdo card?
[01:24] <redlounge> nalioth, i used a howto but i do not remember the url but i do remember that it said that i should disable local login for this user
[01:24] <nalioth> seth_k: what is is sposed to show when your key has been signed by someone else?
[01:24] <nalioth> Jogariga: <drool>unfortunately not
[01:24] <seth_k> their e-mail, and a trustlevel
[01:24] <seth_k> @nalioth
[01:24] <LasseL> I just set up a server with ubuntu on it. Is there a guide somewhere on how I remote control it?
[01:24] <eno__> if I am using my ethernat card for internet can I use it for a LAN at the same time?
[01:24] <gangalee> crimsun: I can specify init?
[01:24] <nalioth> redlounge: try the sequence i sent you, there are lots of checkboxes
[01:25] <Jogariga> anyone here with an evdo card?
[01:25] <eno__> not me, sorry
[01:25] <nalioth> seth_k: ok will study the output
[01:26] <Charlie_Snoopy> ppl pls help
[01:26] <nalioth> Charlie_Snoopy: if anyone knows what you are asking, they will respond
[01:27] <Charlie_Snoopy> acer aspire 1691 i installing ubuntu 4.10
[01:27] <gangalee> crimsun: what do you mean by specifying init? Will that allow me to specify the path to /etc/inittab?
[01:27] <mumbles> right
[01:27] <Charlie_Snoopy> install freezes up
[01:27] <mumbles> im off to bed
[01:27] <mumbles> nn all
[01:27] <crimsun> gangalee: no, it's always /etc/inittab. You can pass init=/somepath/init
[01:28] <Charlie_Snoopy> at 95 per cent of the pacages installed
[01:28] <nalioth> Charlie_Snoopy: is you cd-rom in good condition?
[01:28] <Charlie_Snoopy> yup
[01:29] <gangalee> at which point can I pass init a path?
[01:29] <Charlie_Snoopy> it at start freez when booting the kernel
[01:29] <crimsun> gangalee: at the grub prompt
[01:29] <Charlie_Snoopy> i used the option to pass the pcmcia install
[01:30] <Charlie_Snoopy> it worked fine till the 95 %
[01:35] <dwstil> is anyone here connected to the internet via modem?
[01:35] <Discipulus> I am
[01:35] <Discipulus> Why do you ask?
[01:35] <othernoob> thoreauputic: finally. OOo was succesfully installed on that users pc :)
[01:35] <aru_> he wants to ping flood you off :)
[01:35] <dwstil> i need some help
[01:36] <dwstil> i can't find a modem that ubuntu will pickup
[01:36] <othernoob> thoreauputic: still no idea why 113 and 116 made problems with architecture. 106 didn't
[01:36] <dwstil> i've tried using 3 and still no luck
[01:36] <Discipulus> dwstil, internal or external?
[01:36] <dwstil> internal
[01:36] <dwstil> just some pci cards
[01:37] <ErmaC`> hmmz
[01:37] <nacho23> hey, im running ubuntu online, and i wanted to know if i could save data to my flash drive, and how to do it! thanx
[01:37] <ErmaC`> can someone help me, ive got an onboard soundcard, and looks like it doesnt work now?
[01:37] <crimsun> ErmaC`: lspci -v|grep audio
[01:38] <ErmaC`> crimsun, now?
[01:38] <andares> Hi.
[01:38] <ErmaC`> wath then?
[01:38] <crimsun> ErmaC`: paste me the output
[01:38] <Discipulus> dwstil, I don't mess with PCI modems, none of them are hardware anymore, they're all "soft modems"
[01:39] <andares> How do I mound another partition?
[01:39] <andares> *mount
[01:39] <ErmaC`> crimsun there is no output |
[01:39] <ErmaC`> :|
[01:39] <andares> Like say, /dev/hda6
[01:39] <Discipulus> dwstil, when you find an internal modem that costs 50-100 bucks, you've found a good modem
[01:39] <Discipulus> dwstil, my suggestion is to go out and get a good hardware mode
[01:39] <dwstil> wtf
[01:39] <Discipulus> modem*
[01:39] <crimsun> ErmaC`: so it's either isa or usb, then
[01:39] <andares> When I do mount /dev/hda6 it says "Can't find /dev/hda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[01:39] <crimsun> ErmaC`: what computer is it?
[01:39] <dwstil> wow
[01:39] <andares> How fix I it?
[01:39] <Discipulus> dwstil, hardware modem = external
[01:39] <ErmaC`> euh how you mean? it's intell pentium 3
[01:39] <dwstil> do you have any reccomendations
[01:40] <dwstil> ?
[01:40] <dwstil> right
[01:40] <andares> Z.z
[01:40] <Discipulus> dwstil, what I mean when I say "soft modem" is that it relies on the CPU to make calculations and doesn't have a CPU of it's own, which modems should, and all external modems do
[01:40] <Discipulus> dwstil, US Robotics has an excellent external modem, pricey though
[01:40] <ErmaC`> crimsun wath do i have to do now?
[01:41] <crimsun> ErmaC`: you have to tell me what type of sound card is in the machine
[01:41] <dwstil> intresting
[01:41] <ErmaC`> Sound Blaster 16?
[01:41] <dwstil> so any external modem would do really
[01:41] <ErmaC`> Sound Blaster 16?
[01:41] <Discipulus> dwstil, something tells me you don't believe a word I'm saying...
[01:41] <crimsun> ErmaC`: absolutoly positive?
[01:41] <ErmaC`> how you mean?
[01:41] <crimsun> ErmaC`: (absolutely)
[01:41] <dwstil> nop no
[01:41] <aru_> dwstil, http://www.linux.org/vendor/hardware/
[01:41] <dwstil> it makes sence
[01:41] <crimsun> ErmaC`: a sb16 clone is most definitely different from a genuine sb16
[01:42] <Discipulus> dwstil, exactly. I paid 15 bucks for a generic used external modem and I've been using it for 7 years, works fine
[01:42] <dwstil> sweet
[01:42] <oga7876> can somebody give me the command to update from warty to hoary?
[01:42] <dwstil> i'm ebaying one right noow
[01:42] <aru_> dwstil, maybe one of those vendors has a modem for you
[01:42] <dwstil> thanks a lot man
[01:42] <oga7876> or tell me what to do?
[01:42] <ErmaC`> in windows it's always called Sound blaster 16 so i guess thats the soundcard name...
[01:42] <Discipulus> oga7876, change "warty" to "hoary" in your /etc/apt/sources.list type 'sudo apt-get update' then type 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:42] <crimsun> ErmaC`: then do this from a command line: sudo modprobe sb16
[01:43] <nacho23> can annybody tell me if it is possible to save a profile on a flash drive, with ubuntu live?, so i could carry d cd to anny pc, and just load profile, and stuff from flash drive?
[01:43] <ErmaC`> crimsun, FATAL: Module sb16 not found.
[01:43] <ErmaC`> :$
[01:43] <ErmaC`> crimsun, FATAL: Module sb16 not found.
[01:43] <crimsun> ErmaC`: snd_sb16
[01:44] <ErmaC`> k
[01:44] <ErmaC`> ok
[01:44] <ErmaC`> now?
[01:44] <dajawho> What are the two words for setting horizontal and refresh in xorg.conf?
[01:44] <ErmaC`> crimsun, ?
[01:44] <ErmaC`> wath now?
[01:45] <crimsun> ErmaC`: did it return you to a prompt immediately without errors?
[01:45] <ErmaC`> indeed
[01:45] <bloodymale> does ubuntu support most hardware
[01:45] <zukalk> dajawho, HorizSync and VertRefresh
[01:45] <dajawho> Thank you zukalk.
[01:45] <thoreauputic> bloodymale: most, yes
[01:45] <ErmaC`> and i heared something in my boxes, so i guess it's connected now
[01:45] <crimsun> ErmaC`: log out of GNOME and back in
[01:45] <ErmaC`> ok
[01:46] <bloodymale> i am a newbie is ubantu is it easy to install compared to most
[01:46] <crimsun> yes, it's quite simple
[01:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi...
[01:46] <andares> ErmaC` in windows it's always called Sound blaster 16 so i guess thats the soundcard name...
[01:46] <thoreauputic> bloodymale: if you are installing without dual boot etc it's very simple
[01:46] <andares> *cough*noob*/cough* I'm sorry.. I should not have said that.
[01:46] <andares> I am a newbie myself.
[01:46] <zukalk> bloodymale, quoting Linux Format, "it's got an idiot-proof installer" ;)
[01:46] <bloodymale> i am dual booting it
[01:46] <bloodymale> windows is installed first thought
[01:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> anyone knows how can i fix sound after install xmms? everything is installes, but dont works
[01:47] <thoreauputic> bloodymale: you should be fine - just be sure it installs on its own partitions
[01:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> i follow ubuntuguide and still dont works
[01:48] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: change the output plugin to esound
[01:48] <ErmaC`> ok wath now?
[01:48] <ErmaC`> crimsun,
[01:48] <ErmaC`> ?
[01:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> and what i do woth the other, i said...
[01:48] <crimsun> ErmaC`: you have to unmute the PCM (and Master if you have one) and adjust the volumes
[01:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> how i know what sound system my ubuntu in using?
[01:49] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[01:49] <thoreauputic> Aragorn_Guardian: you change the output plugin in the xmms preferences
[01:49] <zukalk> Aragorn_Guardian, gstreamer-properties
[01:49] <othernoob> zukalk: which distro doesn't have an idiot-proof installer?
[01:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice
[01:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> ...gonna truy...thanks
[01:49] <bloodymale> i am using partition magic to make the partitions
[01:50] <thoreauputic> othernoob: slackware ;)
[01:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> nothing
[01:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8(
[01:50] <zukalk> othernoob, older debian distros, before 3 and 3.1, i guess
[01:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> $?=1
[01:50] <ErmaC`> crimsun don't i have to do something else to? like configuring the soundcard somewhere else?
[01:50] <othernoob> thoreauputic: that might be one ..
[01:51] <jonathan_> how do I get java applets to work??
[01:51] <othernoob> thoreauputic: did you get what i said about OOo?
[01:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> what can i do in this situation?
[01:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> crimsun: ?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> othernoob: to install slackware, you need a few clues
[01:51] <othernoob> jonathan_: mainly by installing JRE and enabling java in your browser..
[01:51] <sr_pak> hola
[01:51] <crimsun> ErmaC`: can you hear anything?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> othernoob: yes, sorry I was AFK
[01:51] <ErmaC`> yes now it works
[01:51] <jonathan_> thank you
[01:51] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: what did you do?
[01:51] <ErmaC`> whiiiiiiiiiii
[01:51] <othernoob> thoreauputic: no prob, just wanted to let you know :)
[01:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> lsof
[01:51] <ErmaC`> thx a lot crimsun
[01:51] <sr_pak> soy de venezuela
[01:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[01:52] <zukalk> !es
[01:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:52] <crimsun> ErmaC`: now do this in a terminal: echo "snd-sb16" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:52] <crimsun> um ok.
[01:52] <bloodymale> i use partition magic but to make the rescue disk u need a  floppy drive and i only have a usb
[01:52] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: and what was the output from that?
[01:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> nothing
[01:52] <Razor-X> bloodymale: does your CD drive boot?
[01:53] <bloodymale> yes
[01:53] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: and what is listed as the default audio sink in gstreamer-properties?
[01:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> 1 sec
[01:53] <Razor-X> bloodymale: then, your copy of Partition Magic should be able too boot-up from CD
[01:53] <Razor-X> (unless of course, it's pirated, I won't go into that)
[01:53] <bloodymale> i dont have it on cd
[01:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> alsa and esd
[01:53] <bloodymale> my friend sent it too me
[01:54] <Razor-X> bloodymale: what do you have it on?
[01:54] <bloodymale> on my lap top hd
[01:54] <Razor-X> bloodymale: why couldn't he copy the CD and send it?
[01:54] <Coil101> All of my window are too big for me to view, how to I size them down?
[01:54] <ErmaC`> crimsun
[01:54] <bloodymale> i got it installed but i think just in cause something screws up in the program u need the resue disks too help u
[01:55] <crimsun> ErmaC`: you left too quickly, man.
[01:55] <ErmaC`> can you say me the commands again, so i can write them down?
[01:55] <Razor-X> bloodymale: that's why you get the CD
[01:55] <crimsun> ErmaC`: now do this in a terminal: echo "snd-sb16" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[01:55] <crimsun> ErmaC`: do the above once, and you're set.
[01:55] <Razor-X> ask him for a copy of the original CD, or get a bootable USB floppy drive, if you don't, I can only suspect pirating
[01:55] <Coil101> All of my window are too big for me to view, how to I size them down? Help please
[01:55] <ErmaC`> i thought so that i forgot something thats why i came back ;)
[01:55] <othernoob> bloodymale: what are you using partition magic for anyway? just make your windows partition smaller so you have at least ~10GB for ubuntu. don't partition those 10gb with partition magic. do it with the ubuntu cd
[01:56] <z|bandito> what do you need to serve RSS feeds?
[01:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> crimsun: any suggestion?
[01:56] <ErmaC`> crimsun, what did those commands?
[01:56] <Razor-X> othernoob: QTParted couldn't partition my defragged HDD
[01:56] <othernoob> you really would have to put some effort into it to screw that up
[01:56] <Razor-X> *defragged NTFS HDD
[01:56] <Razor-X> nor could Parted (the included Ubuntu partitioner)
[01:56] <Coil101> All of my window are too big for me to view, how to I size them down? Help please
[01:56] <ErmaC`> crimsun, what did those commands?
[01:56] <Razor-X> I had to go through hell and highwater to partition it
[01:56] <TokenBad> how you unzip a zip file in ubuntu?
[01:57] <crimsun> ErmaC`: now you don't have to worry about sound
[01:57] <Razor-X> Coil101: what resolution is your desktop at?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: having the modules in /etc/modules means they are loaded on boot
[01:57] <ErmaC`> oooh ok
[01:57] <othernoob> Razor-X: yea ok. but he's wanting to really use partition magic :p
[01:57] <ErmaC`> crimsun, can you say me the commands again from the beginning? i got a friend and he has the same problem :$
[01:57] <Coil101> Razor-X: I'm not sure, how do I check?
[01:57] <ErmaC`> i forgot to write them down
[01:57] <othernoob> partition magic is known not to be the best prog to do linux partitions..
[01:58] <crimsun> ErmaC`: sudo modprobe snd_sb16
[01:58] <crimsun> ErmaC`: that's it
[01:58] <ErmaC`> oh
[01:58] <ErmaC`> nothing else?
[01:58] <TokenBad> anyone?
[01:58] <zukalk> Razor-X, are there any windoze alternatives to PM that support ntfs?
[01:59] <aru_> I no longer support ntfs
[01:59] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`:  echo "snd-sb16" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules  <-- that was his other command after the modprobe
[01:59] <aru_> in case you wondered
[01:59] <nacho23> could annybody tell me how could i get access to my flash drive on ubuntu live?
[01:59] <ErmaC`> ok
[01:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> crimsun: ehehehehe...sorry...was a hole fail...
[01:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> ehehehe
[01:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> bad hole...
[01:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8p
[01:59] <crimsun> a "bad hole"?
[01:59] <ErmaC`> finally my ubuntu works great great reso, great sound (h)
[01:59] <ErmaC`> cool
[01:59] <crimsun> what's that, like a burned piece of toast?
[02:00] <othernoob> anyway, night
[02:00] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: that puts the module in that file - you could do the dame with an editor but that command is quicker
[02:00] <sweety15> hello. Is here anybody, who want's to chat with me?
[02:00] <zukalk> aru, me neither, but windoze uses ntfs by default, and you gotta create some unallocated space out of it before you can install ubuntu. at least that's what happened to me months ago
[02:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> in the sound card...i puted the conector in wrong hole... 8)
[02:00] <ErmaC`> ok
[02:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> ehehehe
[02:00] <crimsun> Aragorn_Guardian: oh, wrong jack. Gotcha.
[02:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> stupid...
[02:00] <thoreauputic> s/dame/same
[02:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> this!!!
[02:00] <ErmaC`> great support here ;)
[02:02] <Charlie_Snoopy> so no one could help me with my prob
[02:04] <Coil101> I am the change resoloution window, and yet I can't figure out how to change it. Help please?
[02:05] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual screens to work?
[02:05] <Coil101> I am the change resoloution window, and yet I can't figure out how to change it. Help please?
[02:06] <Coil101> Hello?  I've installed ntpd to try and fix it, but it doesn't seem to help - at ALL. The drift file always remains at 0.000. What am I doing wrong? Any other suggestions?
[02:07] <maggotbrain> has anyone been able to login into webmin on Ubuntu without first creating a root account?
[02:07] <remyforbes777>  what the hell sweety15
[02:07] <remyforbes777> lol
[02:07] <aru_> yes!
[02:07] <Coil101> I am the change resoloution window, and yet I can't figure out how to change it. Help please?
[02:07] <aru_> firting is the main reason I come to linux channels!
[02:07] <Kyral> lol
[02:07] <aru_> flirting that is!
[02:07] <dell500> lol
[02:07] <Kyral> You find the desperate ones here
[02:08] <remyforbes777> i come to linux channels to chew bubble gum and flirt, and i am all out of bubble gum
[02:08] <Kyral> Why go to #sex or something, when you can find quality women in #ubuntu
[02:08] <remyforbes777> there is a #sex channel
[02:08] <Coil101> I am the change resoloution window, and yet I can't figure out how to change it. Help please?
[02:08] <aru_> I'm looking for someone to fsck my drive, thats why I hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:08] <remyforbes777> adios
[02:09] <maggotbrain> I've changed the user in the  miniserv.users file  from root:* to <my user:*> any suggestions?
[02:09] <Coil101> I am the change resoloution window, and yet I can't figure out how to change it. Help please?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Coil101: the number of repetitions is inversely proportional to the likelhood of help
[02:10] <Razor-X> ErmaC`.... where have  Iseen that name before
[02:10] <Razor-X> wow, I just realized I was in a PM this whole time ;0
[02:10] <Razor-X> *I see
[02:10] <Razor-X> **I seen
[02:10] <Razor-X> *;)
[02:11] <ErmaC`> i dont know Razor-X
[02:11] <ErmaC`> do i know you?
[02:11] <Razor-X> ErmaC`: maybe....
[02:11] <Razor-X> hmmm... I can't remember where i've seen that name before
[02:11] <Razor-X> Indie RPG community, perhaps?
[02:12] <ErmaC`> no
[02:12] <ErmaC`> lol
[02:12] <ErmaC`> ;)
[02:12] <Razor-X> ahhh, ok then
[02:12] <Kyral> remyforbes777, there is #sex on every IRC Net
[02:12] <ErmaC`> ive only been here...
[02:12] <ErmaC`> and #distrotalk
[02:12] <Razor-X> Kyral: I did not need to hear that ;)
[02:12] <ErmaC`> and i'm on this network sinds today so...
[02:12] <ErmaC`> don't think you know me
[02:12] <Razor-X> no, some forum of some sort.... i'm certain....
[02:13] <ErmaC`> cafuego, n be but not me then ;)
[02:13] <ErmaC`> i'm no forum-freak or something
[02:13] <remyforbes777> never knewthat
[02:13] <remyforbes777> i just get on here to try and learn
[02:13] <ErmaC`> woobs
[02:13] <Razor-X> well, I used to frequent forums some time ago
[02:13] <ErmaC`> woops*
[02:13] <remyforbes777> now i know that i can also look for extremely horny babes
[02:13] <Razor-X> remyforbes777: or that some here don't like that prospect ;)
[02:14] <Razor-X> but, yeah, it's been a while
[02:14] <Razor-X> 's why I don't go on the Ubuntu forums... or the Wiki
[02:15] <Razor-X> allright allready! i'm getting nethack-el!
[02:20] <norwyn> anyone in here that got tips when I want to digitalise books in linux?
[02:20] <Razor-X> norwyn: you can scan them, and then OCR the scan
[02:20] <norwyn> Razor-X but with what OCR-program?
[02:21] <tritium> norwyn, "apt-cache search OCR" to find a few
[02:22] <tritium> I see at least clara, gocr, and ocrad
[02:23] <norwyn> tritium: do you know any of these, do  they recognise good?
[02:23] <tritium> norwyn, sorry, I've never tried any of them.
[02:23] <dave_> Hey, where's a good how-to to set up sound in ubuntu? I thought it was supposed to be set up by the default isntall
[02:23] <tritium> dave_, in most cases it is
[02:24] <norwyn> tritium: ok. tnx anyway.
[02:24] <tercel> has anybody had trouble using the torrent for the live/installCD ?
[02:24] <tercel> it gives my torrent client a double free error
[02:25] <norwyn> tercel, what client are you using?
[02:25] <tercel> norwyn: ctorrent
[02:25] <norwyn> tercel: ok. never heard of ;)
[02:25] <Razor-X> haha, i'm playing nethack now ;)
[02:25] <dave_> What's the difference between snd-intel8x0 and snd-intel8x0m?
[02:25] <tercel> norwyn: its very simplistic, command line, small, and written in C. I like it:)
[02:26] <tercel> norwyn: of course, even a corrupt .torrent should never produce a double free error! but I was just wondering if it was my or everybody
[02:26] <tercel> s/my/me
[02:26] <dave_> I lack a /dev/dsp, how does /dev/dsp get created?
[02:26] <Razor-X> tercel: you forgot the last '/'
[02:26] <Razor-X> my sed version errors if I don't
[02:26] <tercel> Razor-X: indeed
[02:26] <norwyn> tercel: ok. sounds good. yeah.
[02:27] <tercel> what sounds good?
[02:27] <tensor> hello, what player can i use to play mp3s on ubuntu?
[02:27] <tercel> Razor-X: member? you mean like, a dev?
[02:27] <gyaresu> dave_, cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:27] <tritium> dave_, have you looked around in /proc/asound for some clues as to what's going on?
[02:27] <gyaresu> dave_, see if you've got any cards recognised...
[02:27] <Razor-X> tercel: yeah
[02:28] <dave_> it says no sound cards
[02:28] <goldfish> tensor: beep-media-player is good
[02:28] <gyaresu> tensor, xmms
[02:28] <Razor-X> I have the testimonials, the docs in my name
[02:28] <tercel> ahh
[02:28] <Razor-X> now i've applied
[02:28] <norwyn> tensor: I would suggest Amorak.
[02:28] <tercel> Razor-X: are you already in the process then?
[02:28] <tensor> oks, thanks goldfish, gyaresu
[02:28] <dave_> I have a 82801 intel corp. high definitoin audio controller, which uses the snd_intel8x0 module
[02:28] <Razor-X> tercel: yeah
[02:28] <tensor> norwyn, thanks, will try that out too
[02:28] <tercel> Razor-X: what do you develop?
[02:28] <tritium> tensor, rhythmbox, xmms, beep are others
[02:29] <Razor-X> tercel: it's not just developers
[02:29] <dave_> gyaresu: I have the correct modules developed, how do I get asound to recognize the device?
[02:29] <tritium> tercel, you too can become a member :)
[02:29] <Razor-X> an Ubuntu member writes documentation, develops if possible, and overall helps the project
[02:29] <Razor-X> i'm shooting for maintainership ;)
[02:29] <tercel> oh I see. thats a cool idea
[02:29] <tercel> Razor-X: good luck then:)
[02:29] <Razor-X> tercel: thanks ;)
[02:29] <gyaresu> dave_, is the 82801 coming back from cat /proc/asound/cards?
[02:30] <Razor-X> I'm most likely gonna be the youngest member
[02:30] <tritium> Razor-X, I hope you'll consider help out the MOTU, in that case.
[02:30] <dave_> gyaresu: no, that's from lspci, /proc/asound/cards says no sound cards found
[02:30] <norwyn> tensor: but you will need to download some additional files as the gstreamer-mad, and so on. It's all in the Ubuntuguide.org
[02:30] <Razor-X> tritium: the hardest maintainer field?
[02:30] <dave_> err, rather, it says, "--- no soundcards ---"
[02:30] <Razor-X> hell yes! ;)
[02:30] <Razor-X> I wanna be in the line of duty
[02:30] <tensor> norwyn, yeah will do
[02:30] <Razor-X> *front lines
[02:30] <gyaresu> dave_, ah. then it hasn't been recongnised and you'll need to mess with the modules.
[02:30] <airmikey> trying to install pakages but keep getting this   W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb
[02:30] <airmikey>   MD5Sum mismatch
[02:30] <tercel> tritium: thanks, but no:) I'm actualy a gentoo dev. I'm installing ubuntu on a second partition because its what I reccomend for people that dont want a source distro, and I figure I should at least have it arround to play with before I reccomend it to people
[02:30] <dave_> gyaresu: I have the correct modules loaded -.-
[02:31] <gyaresu> dave_, well a) no. or b) they are loaded in the wrong order.
[02:31] <gyaresu> dave_, damn linux! :)
[02:31] <tritium> tercel, ah, okay.  Well, at least you know you're welcome anytime :)
[02:31] <tercel> :)
[02:31] <bimberi> airmikey: edit your sources.list and remove the "us."
[02:31] <Razor-X> tercel: ahhh, a gentoo dev, eh?
[02:31] <dave_> gyaresu: How do you load them in the correct order?
[02:31] <Razor-X> gentoo'icians are highly respected ;)
[02:32] <tritium> tensor, check this out for more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:32] <SilentSol> WOOT downloading ubuntu at a whopping 405kb/sec
[02:32] <dave_> gyaresu: Isn't "modprobe snd-intel8x0", which loads all the other modules, the correct order
[02:32] <tercel> Razor-X: realy? most people think we are all ricers
[02:32] <Razor-X> tercel: not for those who know what it actually means to be a "gentoo-dev"
[02:32] <MachineScrew> Has any one has sucsess with printing on a HP DeskJet
[02:32] <XRayNuke> tritium: it looks like using the JDK instead of the JRE gets the symlinks from /usr/alternative slightly wrong, as the jdk doesn't install a plugin, but the jdk has a jre/ subdirectory that does have a plugin .so in it.
[02:32] <tercel> hehe yea
[02:32] <Razor-X> when I first tried out gentoo I was like "OMG, those people are so F'ing cool!" ;)
[02:32] <XRayNuke> tritium: unfortunately changing those didn't fix anything.
[02:32] <Razor-X> when I first tried out gentoo I was like "OMG, those people are so F'ing cool!" ;)
[02:32] <tensor> tritium, ok will do
[02:32] <Razor-X> errr... ahhh
[02:32] <tritium> XRayNuke, really?  I'm sorry for that.
[02:32] <gyaresu> dave_, yeah but sometimes the module gets loaded at startup when the kernel auto recognizes it but it makes it unusable.
[02:32] <Razor-X> stupid'ness ;)
[02:33] <dave_> gyaresu: i've rmmod'd them all
[02:33] <biovore> Gentoo is ok.. but building shit all the time sucks..
[02:33] <thoreauputic> tercel: I think the ricer jokes are good-humoured, and not to be taken too seriously ;)
[02:33] <tercel> Razor-X: yea the comunity is cool at first, then you realise there are a lot of very annoying users. but overall I love it. and the dev comunity is spectacular, for the most part.
[02:33] <Razor-X> biovore: not if it's so easy as portage
[02:33] <MachineScrew> all my pages are comming out wrong
[02:33] <gyaresu> dave_, and then modprobed them again?
[02:33] <XRayNuke> tritium: can the JRE be installed the same way as the JDK?
[02:33] <dave_> yeap
[02:33] <gyaresu> dave_, right.
[02:33] <tritium> XRayNuke, did you look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[02:33] <dave_> just did it again
[02:33] <MachineScrew> its like all the borders are screwed
[02:33] <shlomi> Hi all!
[02:33] <tercel> Razor-X: I'm not like a big time dev or anything, I maintain a few packages. but we've got some people that are realy amazing
[02:33] <biovore> Try portage is cool.. but build time sucks
[02:33] <Razor-X> tercel: ;)
[02:34] <shlomi> How do I install openoffice.org 2 beta on Kubuntu?
[02:34] <Razor-X> I love compilation, it's awesome
[02:34] <tritium> XRayNuke, do you mean at the same time?
[02:34] <tercel> thoreauputic: most of the time yea, but every now and then you run into somebody who is a real jackass gentoo-hater
[02:34] <biovore> shlmi:get the rpm and alien it
[02:34] <Razor-X> only problem I have with gentoo is its nonstandard paths
[02:34] <tritium> shlomi, install the openoffice.org2 packages
[02:34] <biovore> tritium: they got openoffice2 debs?
[02:34] <XRayNuke> tritium: yes. libjavaplugin.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins symlinks to /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
[02:34] <dsevilla> mmm... hi. anybody using breezy here?
[02:34] <tritium> biovore, yes.  They're still beta, of course
[02:34] <gyaresu> dave_, my money is on missing a module or some kernel version weirdness that you'll find in someones blog.
[02:34] <thoreauputic> tercel: heh - ah well, it's all GNU/Linux in the end...
[02:34] <biovore> dsevilla: read the topic
[02:34] <MachineScrew> how can I fix the print boarders
[02:35] <tercel> biovore: you don't like building things? hmm, maybe you should try out ubuntu... oh wait
[02:35] <dsevilla> biovore, haha, yeah, but *anybody* has to use it
[02:35] <tercel> thoreauputic: yea good point
[02:35] <dsevilla> at least the developers, right?
[02:35] <biovore> I built things my self.. just the time sucks..
[02:35] <dave_> gyaresu: i've been searchign
[02:35] <MachineScrew> any one
[02:35] <gyaresu> dave_, if you've removed the modules and then reinserted them and you've got all the right modules then...
[02:35] <gyaresu> dave_, dmesg?
[02:35] <tims> so how long is it going to take to compile mozilla? amd64 3000+
[02:35] <biovore> developers do what ever..
[02:35] <dave_> gyaresu: Should I compile my own kernel?
[02:35] <MachineScrew> I am trying to be as descriptive as possible
[02:35] <XRayNuke> tritium: which is itself a symlink to /usr/lib/j2sdk-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so after I pointed it to a libjavaplugin_oji.so that actually exists.
[02:35] <shlomi> tritium: from where?
[02:35] <gyaresu> dave_, what are you using?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> tercel: now Red Hat, on the ohter hand.... </joke>
[02:35] <dave_> ubuntu? :p
[02:35] <tritium> XRayNuke, and did you check /etc/alternatives?  Does the symlink there point to the wrong place?  Did you try fixing it?
[02:36] <gyaresu> dave_, uname -a
[02:36] <dave_> someone had a problem where acpi conflicted with the sound card
[02:36] <gyaresu> dave_, prob the default 2.6.10
[02:36] <tritium> shlomi, they're in the universe repository
[02:36] <dave_> I passed pci=noacpi in my kernel, but acpi is still being brought up (dmesg)
[02:36] <tercel> eeeeewww.... redhat
[02:36] <MachineScrew> any one
[02:36] <tercel> blah
[02:36] <flodine>  /part
[02:36] <shlomi> tritium: OK.
[02:37] <XRayNuke> tritium: yes. the one in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins points to the one in /etc/alternatives/, which points to the one in the JDK JRE directory
[02:37] <gyaresu> dave_, 'uname -a' |me gets coffee
[02:37] <tercel> hahah
[02:37] <tercel> thoreauputic: there are still a few
[02:37] <tritium> XRayNuke, what does "sudo update-alternatives --list mozilla-javaplugin.so" tell you?
[02:37] <XRayNuke> tritium: if the JRE can be built using the same java-package(?) script as the JDK, I'll try installing that next to the JDK
[02:38] <tritium> XRayNuke, yes, I build the JRE with java-package.
[02:38] <dave_> 2.6.10-5-386
[02:38] <thoreauputic> tercel: linspire...ewww
[02:38] <tercel> thoreauputic: some debian zealots, and another distro called sourcemage that tends to hate on gentoo
[02:38] <tercel> thoreauputic: they dont even get to be spoken about.
[02:38] <XRayNuke> tritium: no output.
[02:38] <MachineScrew> My pages that I print on my HP DeskJet have 1" to much on top and about 1" cut off at the bottom and .5" on the sides
[02:38] <thoreauputic> tercel: ah right - the sourcemage folks would say they thought of it first!
[02:38] <tercel> to speak of linspire is to give it substance, of which it has none:)
[02:38] <airmikey> bimberi:thx
[02:38] <bimberi> airmikey: yw :)
[02:39] <tritium> XRayNuke, run that command from the /etc/alternatives directory please
[02:39] <tercel> thoreauputic: yea, and in fact they may have, but that doesnt realy make a diference to me
[02:39] <gyaresu> dave_, preface comments with names please. (i'm doing other stuff and i rely on the beeps)
[02:39] <dave_> gyaresu: sorry
[02:39] <tritium> XRayNuke, actually, that doesn't matter...
[02:39] <aru_> MachineScrew: is you printer set to the right driver?
[02:39] <gyaresu> dave_, no probs.
[02:39] <dave_> gyaresu: so, err, not working :p
[02:39] <thoreauputic> tercel: oh... wait.. someone thought of Unix a while ago too *grin*
[02:39] <gyaresu> dave_, default kernel.
[02:39] <tercel> hahah
[02:39] <dave_> gyaresu: I can compile my own kernel, but I don't wanna do all that work if it's not gonna work :)
[02:39] <MachineScrew> aru_:yes
[02:40] <aru_> MachineScrew: My Epson Stylus c62 was set as a c64 which made it print weird
[02:40] <gyaresu> dave_, compiling is DA BOMB!
[02:40] <tritium> XRayNuke, you might also try to use "update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so"
[02:40] <dave_> gyaresu: I'm not a linux newbie :p
[02:40] <MachineScrew> aru_:3740 my printer is 3745
[02:40] <gyaresu> dave_, once you've got a good .config file it's totally necessary for newer kernels.
[02:40] <gyaresu> dave_, c'mon dave you love it.
[02:40] <dave_> I have a config file for 2.4.26
[02:41] <aru_> MachineScrew: did you try changing it, and is this in one program or all of them?
[02:41] <gyaresu> dave_, debian experience?
[02:41] <dave_> I'm thinking about using 2.4
[02:41] <XRayNuke> tritium: "There are 0 alternatives which provide 'mozilla-javaplugin.so'.
[02:41] <dave_> yes, debian and gentoo and fc
[02:41] <gyaresu> dave_, nah. do you have fast internet?
[02:41] <MachineScrew> aru_:its in all of them
[02:41] <dave_> pseudo fast
[02:41] <tercel> hey, I'm glad I had this problem, now I can also tell people that ubuntu has a comunity just as good as gentoo's (if not better)
[02:41] <dave_> I'll compile the sound support into the kernel with 2.6?
[02:41] <MachineScrew> aru_:so I belive it a config issue
[02:41] <tritium> tercel, :)
[02:41] <gyaresu> then download the linux-image-2.6.10
[02:41] <MachineScrew> aru_:I am setting it up in GNOME
[02:42] <tritium> dave_, are you one of those that needs the newer alsa modules?
[02:42] <dave_> tritium: no, i'm one of those that just wants my sound to work
[02:42] <tritium> XRayNuke, there's also a "--set" option.  You could try that, I suppose.
[02:42] <gyaresu> tritium, dave_ hes got all the modules loading and yet no card regognition.
[02:43] <dave_> there is no linux-image-2.6.10
[02:43] <MachineScrew> aru_:I got the ppd file off of linuxprinting.org and it still dosn't want to work
[02:43] <dave_> there's a *-5-386, and I have that, it's the default ubuntu kernel
[02:43] <MachineScrew> aru_:I also tried to get the latest drivers and the ones that I have are the latest
[02:44] <aru_> MachineScrew: only thing I can tell you is try googling for a similar problem, thats what I did with mine
[02:44] <gyaresu> dave_, well you've got /boot/config-2.6.10
[02:44] <tritium> dave_, which card?
[02:44] <MachineScrew> aru_:I did to no aval
[02:44] <dave_> tritium: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FFW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:45] <dave_> gyaresu: okay, i'll get the source for 2.6.10 then
[02:45] <gyaresu> dave_, dave_ tritium chip isn't it? i would install the linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and see what happens.
[02:45] <tritium> dave_, a few people have cards that are only supported by the newer alsa modules, so they have to build alsa modules to match the ubuntu kernel.    The real expert is crimsun.  If you get a chance to talk to him, he's a tremendous help.
[02:47] <gyaresu> tritium, get newer alsa modules by newer kernel?
[02:47] <Mejobloggs_> hi, i have PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 installed, but it is not configured how i want it. How do i configure it?
[02:47] <tritium> gyaresu, no, by building from source package
[02:47] <dave_> gyaresu: i know how to compile things...?
[02:47] <dave_> tritium: aren't the alsa modules built into the kernel?
[02:47] <gyaresu> tritium, ah.
[02:47] <tritium> dave_, yes, but there are newer alsa sources available
[02:47] <tritium> thoreauputic, any comments here?
[02:48] <dave_> tritium: So how do I specify which ones to load?
[02:48] <dave_> tritium: after I compile them?
[02:48] <Eli-> helloyo: i have PHP 4.3.10-10ubuntu4, how do i add mysql support?
[02:48] <dave_> tritium: and what's the .deb source package for the alsa drivers?
[02:48] <tritium> dave_, like I said, I don't think we're certain yet that you need to build them
[02:48] <gyaresu> dave_, tritium silly question dave but have you edited your sources.list to enable all the fun stuff?
[02:49] <dave_> gyaresu: universe?
[02:49] <Eli-> helloyo: i have PHP 4.3.10-10ubuntu4, how do i add mysql support? cant find the php4-mysql pkg
[02:49] <tritium> !repositories
[02:49] <ubotu> well, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:49] <gyaresu> dave_, tritium i had sound weirdness and locking with the default kernel until i upgraded...
[02:49] <tritium> dave_, ^^^
[02:49] <gyaresu> dave_, multiverse
[02:49] <biovore> apt-get install php4-mysql
[02:49] <tritium> gyaresu, from/to which kernel versino?
[02:49] <tritium> version
[02:49] <dave_> i know apt :p
[02:49] <Eli-> (03:49:23) (biovore) apt-get install php4-mysql
[02:50] <tercel> well thanks guys, I'll be back if I have any questions:)
[02:50] <Eli-> says no such pkg
[02:50] <biovore> Oo
[02:50] <Leonardo_Lopes> how can I put ubuntu in my native-language?
[02:50] <tiredofXP> hello
[02:50] <biovore> Eli: you have universe and multiverse in our source list?
[02:50] <bimberi> !into php4-mysql
[02:50] <ubotu> I don't know, bimberi
[02:50] <bimberi> !info php4-mysql
[02:50] <ubotu> php4-mysql: (MySQL module for php4), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[02:50] <biovore> ^ that would probably be it :-)
[02:51] <gyaresu> tritium, default 2.6.11-*-686 was shazbot then 2.6.10-5-686 was fine. then compiled my own on 2.6.10 all good now.
[02:51] <bimberi> Eli-: you'll need the "universe" repository
[02:51] <tritium> gyaresu, 2.6.11 was never supported
[02:51] <Leonardo_Lopes> all the locales files was removed in ubuntu =9
[02:51] <Leonardo_Lopes> =(
[02:51] <Eli-> 1 sec , checking
[02:51] <bimberi> biovore: yep - got there eventually :)
[02:51] <tritium> Leonardo_Lopes, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[02:51] <gyaresu> tritium, that explains it.
[02:51] <biovore> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe  <-- example
[02:52] <biovore> then apt-get update
[02:52] <tritium> gyaresu, yes.  For example, there were never any linux-restricted-modules packages for 2.6.11
[02:52] <Eli-> oh
[02:52] <gyaresu> tritium, where are you when the 2.6.12 advocates are around ;)
[02:52] <Eli-> ok
[02:52] <Eli-> works
[02:52] <Leonardo_Lopes> trinity-, it is configured to my native language, the problem is that gnome packages had have their locale files removed... ex.: usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/epiphany.mo doesn't exist...
[02:52] <Eli-> thx :D
[02:52] <tritium> gyaresu, busy I guess ;)
[02:52] <ed1t> does anybody know why my linux and windows time is different? it shows the right time in linux but not in windows
[02:52] <tritium> Leonardo_Lopes, what removed them?
[02:53] <goldfish> windows is gay
[02:53] <gyaresu> ed1t, windows is....goldfish.
[02:53] <tritium> goldfish, easy there please
[02:53] <ed1t> it is
[02:53] <Leonardo_Lopes> tritium, there is no locales files in ubuntu packages...
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> bye all...thanks by support
[02:53] <ed1t> it is gay...i just use windows for FrontPage/Dreamweaver/Photoshop
[02:53] <gyaresu> ed1t, bios time is wrong?
[02:53] <tritium> ed1t, how did you configure ubuntu to keep time?  UTC?
[02:53] <bimberi> ed1t: maybe the system clock set to GMT?
[02:53] <gyaresu> ed1t, now now.
[02:53] <ed1t> bios time is right
[02:53] <nalioth> ed1t: windows is ev1l
[02:53] <ed1t> indeed
[02:54] <dave_> tritium: so what do you suggest I do?
[02:54] <gyaresu> ed1t, which version of windows.
[02:54] <ed1t> xp
[02:54] <dave_> tritium: I just re-modprobe'd the module, and again no soundcards found
[02:54] <gyaresu> damn windows support group.
[02:54] <dave_> tritium: Do you suggest either recompiling the kernel or alsa-drivers?
[02:54] <Razor-X> mmmm... miniwheats... the snack of champions ;)
[02:54] <gyaresu> ed1t, region is right i suppos. doesn't think your in helsinki does it or that it's daylight savings?
[02:54] <tritium> dave_, I don't advice recompiling the kernel.  You _may_ want to build some newer alsa modules.
[02:55] <biovore> FrontPage  <-- must not be a code monkey..  Dreamwever.. waste of money, Photoshop is ok..
[02:55] <gyaresu> dave_, tritium it can't hurt to install the 686 linux-image.
[02:55] <blmartin777> what is a good irc program
[02:55] <Mejobloggs_> how do i configure a .deb package before installing?
[02:55] <gyaresu> dave_, if you've got some bandwidth.
[02:55] <Razor-X> blmartin777: depends on your needs
[02:55] <tritium> dave_, if you want, install linux-686, but that should not fix the sound issue.
[02:55] <biovore> irc program for what? linux?
[02:55] <Razor-X> or, rather, your environment of preference
[02:56] <Razor-X> I prefer emacs, and thus I use erc
[02:56] <blmartin777> I use to use a certain one but I can't remember the name os it now
[02:56] <Razor-X> some may prefer BitchX, irssi, and Epic, especially if you like CLI
[02:56] <biovore> kvirc
[02:56] <thoreauputic> blmartin777: commmand line: irssi  X/Desktop : xchat
[02:56] <biovore> xchat
[02:56] <blmartin777> alright thanks guys
[02:56] <Razor-X> I love BitchX for CLI, meself
[02:56] <Razor-X> and KVirc for X
[02:56] <biovore> rgr rgr
[02:57] <biovore> <-- kvirc users
[02:57] <tritium> dave_, you can install the "alsa-source" package, and then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source on how to use kernel-package to build a .deb with newer alsa modules
[02:58] <tritium> dave_, if you choose to do so, you'll also need to "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[02:58] <gyaresu> dave_, tritium do that dave.
[02:59] <^thehatsrule^> O.o
[02:59] <dave_> tritium: I've already got alsa-source and the kernel headers ;p
[02:59] <goldfish> irssi > bitchx
[02:59] <tritium> dave_, super.
[03:00] <Thorrn4> hello!! I recently tried to add my linux machine onto an existing win network; while I was trying to configure it...I got an error: Child terminated with 246 status. How can I fix this error?
[03:00] <moparfan90> i am going to have a small lan party a my house and want to know if battlefield 2 is a good game for tha
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Thorrn4: which program gave you that error?
[03:01] <gyaresu> moparfan90, on linux?
[03:01] <moparfan90> is the game on linux?
[03:01] <gyaresu> moparfan90, no.
[03:01] <gyaresu> moparfan90, i wish.
[03:01] <spermie_411> does anyone use nmap in here?
[03:01] <gyaresu> spermie_411, yes. often.
[03:01] <moparfan90> oo
[03:01] <Thorrn4> thoreauputic, Im not sure...but it says "Network Settings" untop of it...it came with Ubuntu
[03:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:02] <moparfan90> can you play a lan game with the same serial on the game?
[03:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm is there a program for linux that can emulate the propertys of gears?
[03:02] <moparfan90> for battlefield 2
[03:02] <spermie_411> gyaresu: i m fooling around with it on my 2 computers but i don' understand how log in on a open port?
[03:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to reproduce a clock and i need a program that can deal with gears and such for linux
[03:03] <gyaresu> EnsignRedshirt, cout << "hello world";
[03:03] <thoreauputic> Thorrn4: kind of hard to troubleshoot unless we know if it was, say, smbclient or samba or some other network utility
[03:03] <EnsignRedshirt> I picked up a film scanner on ebay that came with a SCSI to Firewire converter.  Any chance that I'll be able to get this to work in Ubuntu (or any Linux)?
[03:03] <shorty114> when i compiled nmap, it couldn't find GTK, and therefore built it without the GUI frontend.
[03:03] <shorty114> how do i make it find GTK?
[03:03] <gyaresu> spermie_411, "log in on a open port?" ???
[03:03] <cafuego> shorty114: Why don't you just apt-get install nmap ?
[03:03] <tritium> shorty114, why did you compile?
[03:03] <shorty114> cafuego, oh, it's in apt?
[03:03] <cafuego> shorty114: What isn't in apt?
[03:03] <shorty114> nvm
[03:04] <spermie_411> gyaresu open a port
[03:04] <tritium> shorty114, use apt-cache search to find out ;)
[03:04] <shorty114> tritium, i'll remember that next time :) thansk
[03:04] <shorty114> *thanks
[03:04] <tritium> !info nmap
[03:04] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.75-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 548 kB, Installed size: 1840 kB
[03:04] <gyaresu> spermie_411, sorry. can you explain what you are trying to do again. i don't understand.
[03:04] <tritium> shorty114, sure :)
[03:04] <devid> hi, does anyone know why system monitor reports 503.8MB of total ram after a reboot, but only 250 when i boot after a shutdown
[03:04] <cafuego> !depends nmap
[03:04] <ubotu> nmap: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libpcre3 (>= 4.5), libssl0.9.7, libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1)
[03:04] <tiredofXP> I am tired of XP, everyone tells me to either use Mandriva or Ubuntu, why should I use Ubuntu?
[03:04] <cafuego> the ubuntu one certainly doesn't use gtk
[03:04] <nalioth> thoreauputic: nmapfe for *nix and OSX
[03:04] <tritium> no gui, apparently ;)
[03:05] <cafuego> tiredofXP: No reason. Try it and see if you like it.
[03:05] <spermie_411> gyaresu: in other words im trying to get into one computer through another
[03:05] <aru_> tiredofXP: because ubuntu is 1 iso compared to mandrivas 3
[03:05] <tiredofXP> sounds good
[03:05] <EnsignRedshirt> How would I test if I (Ubuntu, that is) can talk to this scanner via firewire?  (I've only used a USB scanner in the past, with Vuescan, and Vuescan detects the USB scanner automatically.)
[03:05] <gyaresu> spermie_411, 0_o
[03:05] <tritium> tiredofXP, I suggest trying the LiveCD :)
[03:05] <gyaresu> spermie_411, "get into" ???
[03:05] <cafuego> tiredofXP: if it turns out you don't like it, there are about 1500 other distros to try ;-)
[03:05] <thoreauputic> nalioth: ah, I see fe for "front end"....
[03:05] <Thorrn4> thoreauputic, I'll brb
[03:05] <gyaresu> spermie_411, nmap doesn't "get into" anything.
[03:06] <spermie_411> gyaresu sorta like sshing
[03:06] <gyaresu> spermie_411, nope.
[03:06] <spermie_411> =(
[03:06] <gyaresu> spermie_411, we ARE talking about nmap right?
[03:06] <spermie_411> just ip scans
[03:06] <gyaresu> spermie_411, the port scanner?
[03:06] <spermie_411> yes sir
[03:06] <tiredofXP> thanks
[03:06] <gyaresu> spermie_411, no getting in there i'm afraid.
[03:07] <gyaresu> spermie_411, great for knowing WHERE to get into...
[03:07] <spermie_411> heh heh.
[03:07] <gyaresu> spermie_411, nmap --help
[03:07] <shorty114> cafuego, it's nmapfe
[03:07] <shorty114> that's the GUI frontend
[03:07] <shorty114> !depends nmapfe
[03:07] <ubotu> nmapfe: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxi6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), nmap
[03:08] <spermie_411> a front end for nmap =?
[03:08] <gyaresu> spermie_411, nmap -P0 -sS -O <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:08] <tritium> yep
[03:08] <cafuego> shorty114: Also see 'nessus'
[03:08] <shorty114> cafuego, will do
[03:08] <toasta> hello
[03:08] <gyaresu> cafuego, or wait for the google summer of coding to finish...
[03:08] <tiredofXP> thanks guys gotta run
[03:09] <gyaresu> cafuego, Fyodor's little helpers.
[03:10] <toasta> anyone know why my machine get broken packages error when trying to do update?
[03:10] <gyaresu> toasta, your sources.list is dodgy?
[03:10] <nalioth> !usrepos
[03:10] <ubotu> usrepos is probably if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:10] <toasta> meaning?
[03:11] <Nameeater> !apt
[03:11] <ubotu> well, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[03:11] <Velcan> How do I dpkg -i asdf.deb without dependencies? ... I get an error 'Package python2.3-gtk2 is not installed.' Yet python2.4-gtk2 is installed.
[03:11] <gyaresu> nalioth, well there you go.
[03:11] <glick> hey can anyone recommend a good easy to use web based firewall?
[03:11] <glick> kina like the one smoothwall uses?
[03:11] <dell500> does anyone here know where the lm-sensors source is??
[03:12] <shorty114> wouldn't apt put the nmapfe into the Applications menu?
[03:12] <EnsignRedshirt> Any hardware gurus here?  Any chance of getting a SCSI scanner to work using a SCSI to Firewire converter?
[03:12] <nalioth> gyaresu: there who goes?
[03:12] <gyaresu> nalioth, the 'bang'usrepos
[03:12] <gyaresu> nalioth, i gotta start writing those down.
[03:13] <gyaresu> nalioth, you don't have a list by any chance?
[03:13] <gyaresu> nalioth, something for the wiki?
[03:13] <Nameeater> Velcan: --force-yes might do it, but the man page says its risky :)
[03:13] <EnsignRedshirt> Ugh... dmesg shows a lot of errors saying  "ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023"
[03:13] <gyaresu> Nameeater, Velcan forcing packages scares me.
[03:13] <bimberi> Velcan: do a "man dpkg" and have a read regarding the various --force options - take care though
[03:14] <Velcan> should i be scared if thats the only error i get?
[03:14] <gyaresu> !compile
[03:14] <ubotu> gyaresu: I don't know
[03:14] <Velcan> i mean its asking for an older version of python-gtk2
[03:15] <toasta> this did not work,  got restricted packages output
[03:16] <toasta> this has not happend before
[03:16] <bimberi> Velcan: can't guarantee anything - but this looks like a case where a --force-depends might be OK
[03:16] <ricosuave17> help me please please
[03:17] <tritium> ricosuave17, just ask your question.
[03:17] <ricosuave17> my irc is not working i am on telnet. i have lots of problems
[03:17] <shane_> hello extream ubuntu newbe here.
[03:17] <toasta> same here
[03:18] <Thorrn4> thoreauputic, I found out where the program is: in gnome, I went to System > Administration > Networking
[03:18] <shane_> how can I cange my video driver to one that works better. I can only get 640x480
[03:18] <toasta> what kind of video card
[03:18] <shane_> voodoo banshee
[03:18] <nalioth> !resolution
[03:18] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:19] <steve__> how can i make it so gdm doesnt start when i boot up?
[03:19] <shane_> I have gone to resolution but the only choice is 640x480
[03:19] <goldfish> steve__: remove it from the scripts list in your runlevel.
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Thorrn4: right, but that doesn't tell s which component is spitting out errors: you need a command rather than a GUI location
[03:19] <jasontech> Wouldn't that be just changing init to 3 instead of 5
[03:19] <apokryphos> shane_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:20] <goldfish> jasontech: not on ubuntu.
[03:20] <goldfish> 2-5 are the same on ubuntu
[03:20] <ricosuave17> come on someone help me plz
[03:20] <jasontech> I see
[03:20] <apokryphos> shane_: and..
[03:20] <apokryphos> !resolution
[03:20] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:20] <tritium> jasoncohen, goldfish is correct.  See this for more info:  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[03:20] <thoreauputic> steve__: echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:21] <shane_> apok I will try.
[03:21] <goldfish> ricosuave17: what's up?
[03:21] <toasta> so any ideas on the broken package thing?
[03:21] <jasontech> What thing?
[03:21] <toasta> the error while trying to do updates
[03:21] <dell500>  i'm looking in my /etc/modules conf and it has fglrx on the list more than once, should there only be one instance of it?
[03:22] <ricosuave17> thank god i at least got irc working
[03:22] <ricosuave17> i cant log on to root
[03:22] <nalioth> apokryphos: you miss something? ^^^^
[03:22] <apokryphos> !sudo
[03:22] <ubotu> I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:22] <toasta> no root dude
[03:22] <Thorrn4> I was wondering: how can I load Samba
[03:22] <apokryphos> nalioth: ?
[03:22] <ricosuave17> so how do i mount partitions
[03:22] <glick> anyone know of a good firewall?
[03:22] <apokryphos> nalioths_dog: hehehe
[03:22] <toasta> use sudo before mount command
[03:23] <jasontech> Remove the us. from your sources.list
[03:23] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: check the above link
[03:23] <toasta> eg. sudo mount blah to blah
[03:23] <toasta> jasontech, was that to me?
[03:23] <ricosuave17> why cant i get root
[03:24] <nalioth> apokryphos: i sent that link right when he asked
[03:24] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: check the above link
[03:24] <apokryphos> nalioth: eek, I guess I did, yeah :)
[03:24] <bimberi> glick: firestarter (on ubuntu), ipcop (as a standalone)
[03:24] <ricosuave17> but why cant it use root
[03:24] <toasta> lol
[03:24] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: check the above link
[03:24] <cafuego> ricosuave17: Coz the root account is disabled.
[03:24] <ricosuave17> why
[03:25] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: check the above link
[03:25] <ricosuave17> cant i enable it
[03:25] <ricosuave17> i did
[03:25] <tritium> ricosuave17, read the URL
[03:25] <ricosuave17> i read it
[03:25] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: check the above link
[03:25] <tensor> anyone know where i can apt-get postgresql-8.0?
[03:25] <ricosuave17> i read the link
[03:25] <ricosuave17> but cant i enable it
[03:25] <cafuego> ricosuave17: As a security measure. You don't need it. Check the link, as you were told 4 times.
[03:25] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: then you would know the answer to the question
[03:25] <ricosuave17> i read the link
[03:25] <apokryphos> evidently you haven't read it
[03:25] <ricosuave17> i read the link
[03:25] <Thorrn4> I was wondering: how can I load Samba?
[03:25] <cafuego> Thorrn4: apt-get install samba
[03:25] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: then you know the answer to the question you're asking?
[03:25] <tritium> ricosuave17, it tells you how to enable it
[03:25] <toasta> smoke another one
[03:25] <apokryphos> one wonders why you're asking..
[03:25] <cafuego> Thorrn4: Actually, it's probably installed already
[03:26] <toasta> so any ideas on that thing i was talkin about
[03:26] <ricosuave17> ok
[03:26] <ray> does anybody know how to get sound to work in multiple applications?
[03:26] <Thorrn4> cafuego, I tried that...it gave me an error and wouldnt install
[03:26] <cafuego> Thorrn4: Any particular error?
[03:26] <ricosuave17> what is the equivalent to konqueror on gnome?
[03:26] <apokryphos> ray: you'll want to use dmix
[03:26] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: nautilus
[03:27] <tensor> ricosuave17, nautilus
[03:27] <apokryphos> if it can be called that ;-)
[03:27] <ray> apokryphos, dmix? how do i use that?
[03:27] <apokryphos> !dmix
[03:27] <ubotu> hmm... dmix is at http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA
[03:27] <tensor> eherm? anyone know where (repository)  i can apt-get postgresql-8.0?
[03:27] <ricosuave17> humm why wont nautilus let me make a new folder on my root
[03:27] <apokryphos> ray: though there's perhaps better giudes... check Google if you like
[03:28] <Thorrn4> cafuego, http://pastebin.com/312961
[03:28] <jasontech> toasta, sorry, yes, that was to you
[03:28] <toasta> ahhh cool thanks!
[03:28] <new> sorry im not used to gnome
[03:28] <apokryphos> new: you're forgiven
[03:28] <cafuego> Thorrn4: Which Ubuntu version are you running, Hoary?
[03:29] <jasontech> I just installed Hoary, and I was having all kinds of problems, something about their server with the wrong packages and all kinds of MD5 errors
[03:29] <bimberi> tensor: not available via an ubuntu repository atm
[03:29] <ricosuave17> how do i create a folder ?
[03:29] <cafuego> !info samba-common hoary
[03:29] <ubotu> samba-common: (Samba common files used by both the server and the client), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 1843 kB, Installed size: 4436 kB
[03:29] <nalioth> 1usrepos
[03:29] <Thorrn4> cafuego, 5.04...I think so
[03:29] <cafuego> !info samba-common warty
[03:29] <nalioth> !usrepos
[03:29] <ubotu> hmm... usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:29] <tritium> ricosuave17, from the command line?  mkdir
[03:29] <apokryphos> Thorrn4: cat /etc/issue
[03:29] <ubotu> samba-common: (Samba common files used by both the server and the client), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.7-1ubuntu6 (warty), Packaged size: 1791 kB, Installed size: 4312 kB
[03:29] <tensor> bimberi, too bad :(  compile from source? argh!
[03:29] <ricosuave17> cant i use nautilus to make a folder
[03:29] <mouse_> hi all
[03:30] <cafuego> Thorrn4: Do you by any chance have an non-official (ie: backports, java, whatever) enabled in sources.list?
[03:30] <tritium> ricosuave17, yep
[03:30] <tensor> ricosuave17, if you have rights, yes
[03:30] <toasta> jasontech: where exactly would that be located?
[03:30] <ricosuave17> but i cant make folder on my root using nautilus
[03:30] <jasontech> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:30] <Thorrn4> cafuego, I dont belive so
[03:30] <tensor> ricosuave17, are you logged on as root?
[03:30] <ricosuave17> what do u mean?
[03:30] <jasontech> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then take out the us. on all the archive sites
[03:31] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: gksudo nautilus
[03:31] <apokryphos> ...if you have to
[03:31] <cafuego> Thorrn4: Coz samba 3.0.14a-1~5.04ubp1 looks like a weird version string to me.
[03:31] <bimberi> tensor: yes I'd say so - it is available in debian unstable but I understand that installing debian packages on ubuntu is bad
[03:31] <Thorrn4> cafuego, http://pastebin.com/312963
[03:31] <dell500> should /etc/modules have more than one fglrx on the list??
[03:31] <tritium> dell500, no
[03:31] <ricosuave17> well this is kind of weird to have to use that command to get root
[03:31] <cafuego> Thorrn4: When is the last time you can 'apt-get update' ?
[03:32] <tensor> bimberi, bad? how come?
[03:32] <tritium> dell500, but it should not hurt anything
[03:32] <tritium> ricosuave17, that URL we keep talking about also explains some of the benefits of using sudo ;)
[03:32] <mouse_> does anyone know of a good linux replacement for fineprint?
[03:32] <Thorrn4> cafuego, if u think that it will help...I'll do it now
[03:32] <ricosuave17> well i dont like the security
[03:32] <dell500> tritium, would it be ok to delete the other 4 out of 5 on the list?
[03:33] <dinocazares> Hi
[03:33] <tritium> dell500, yeah :)
[03:33] <cafuego> ricosuave17: In 99.5% of Linux usage you don't _need_ root.
[03:33] <ricosuave17> well i do
[03:33] <jasontech> neither does MS, but look what happens to them
[03:33] <bimberi> tensor: only going by what I've seen said in this room
[03:33] <cafuego> ricosuave17: No, you only _think_ you do.
[03:33] <ricosuave17> lol
[03:33] <ricosuave17> i do need it
[03:33] <ricosuave17> i do a lot mountings
[03:33] <cafuego> ricosuave17: ANyway, running 'sudo -s' is not any harder then running 'su -'
[03:33] <Thorrn4> cafuego, it still gives me the error
[03:33] <ricosuave17> and a lot of sys confs
[03:34] <ricosuave17> hey can i write to an ntfs partition
[03:34] <cafuego> ricosuave17: Yes, but you will destroy the data on it.
[03:34] <jasontech> Under Apps / System Tools, there is a Root Terminal, which goes right to root without having do sudo everything
[03:34] <tritium> ricosuave17, it's very unsafe
[03:34] <dinocazares> I need help mounting smb shares
[03:34] <nalioth> ricosuave17: only if you're tired of windows (it will do bad things)
[03:34] <ricosuave17> but i have a windows error
[03:34] <ricosuave17> i need to replace a dll
[03:34] <cafuego> ricosuave17: Windows *is* an error
[03:35] <glick> damn there are no good easy to use firewalls
[03:35] <ricosuave17> ill ignore that
[03:35] <toasta> good one
[03:35] <jasontech> Then use another Windows box with a USB hard drive
[03:35] <tritium> glick, firestarter
[03:35] <cafuego> ricosuave17: Then use the recovery console. linux will break the system even further.
[03:35] <mbotelho> Hi, I'm trying to set up an IMAP server. Tried both dovecot and cyrus21, but I'm getting md5 failures. How can I get it to work?
[03:35] <jasontech> toasta, did it work?
[03:35] <bob2> mbotelho: /topic
[03:35] <bob2> mbotelho: (re us archive)
[03:35] <ricosuave17> yes but the problem is i dont know were to get the dll in the recover console
[03:35] <toasta> jasontech: workin on tryin to make it editable
[03:35] <dinocazares> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # smbclient -L <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <dinocazares> Password:
[03:35] <tritium> !usrepos
[03:35] <ubotu> it has been said that usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <dinocazares> Domain=[GAZUL]  OS=[Windows 5.1]  Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
[03:35] <jasontech> You have to use that sudo
[03:35] <cafuego> mbotelho: Do you have cleartext password stored for your users?
[03:35] <dinocazares>         Sharename       Type      Comment
[03:36] <dinocazares>         ---------       ----      -------
[03:36] <tritium> mbotelho, see above info about usrepos
[03:36] <dinocazares>         impresora       Printer   Impresora de Eric
[03:36] <dinocazares>         IPC$            IPC       IPC remota
[03:36] <glick> tritium, this is to run on a headless server not running X and handing out dhcp addresses
[03:36] <dinocazares>         print$          Disk      Controladores de impresora
[03:36] <goldfish> ........................
[03:36] <tritium> dinocazares, please dont' paste here
[03:36] <dinocazares>         C               Disk
[03:36] <dinocazares>         fiber           Disk
[03:36] <tensor> dinocazares, what's that?
[03:36] <dinocazares>         ADMIN$          Disk      Admin remota
[03:36] <dinocazares>         Escritorio      Disk
[03:36] <tensor> dinocazares, you'd get kicked for that
[03:36] <cafuego> dinocazares: Please don't paste in here.
[03:36] <dinocazares>         C$              Disk      Recurso predeterminado
[03:36] <dinocazares>         KDE34           Disk
[03:36] <dinocazares> session request to <IP_ADDRESS> failed (Called name not present)
[03:36] <dinocazares> session request to 192 failed (Called name not present)
[03:36] <dinocazares> Domain=[GAZUL]  OS=[Windows 5.1]  Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
[03:36] <dinocazares>         Server               Comment
[03:36] <dinocazares>         ---------            -------
[03:36] <dinocazares>         Workgroup            Master
[03:36] <dinocazares>         ---------            -------
[03:36] <dinocazares> I'm trying to mount an smb share
[03:36] <cafuego> dinocazares: Please don't paste in here.
 that works too.
[03:37] <tritium> :)
[03:37] <shane_> Hello all again.
[03:37] <Dongdong>  Hello
[03:37] <tritium> dinocazares, please use pastebin in the future
[03:38] <shane_> Apokryphos. Your hint work great.  I have only had this loaded 2 days now.
[03:38] <cafuego> !pastebin
[03:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[03:38] <Servo8888> I need some help with the dial up configuration - it seems I need to enter the admin password (password of the current user) to dial up. The user is in the modem group yet a password is still required. How can I solve this issue?
[03:38] <shane_> I finly got 1024x768
[03:38] <apokryphos> shane_: cool :)
[03:38] <glick> hay cant i run smoothwall's firewall and dhcp server apps on another linux distro?
[03:39] <skora> !ubuntuguide
[03:39] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:39] <shane_> how compatable is ubuntu with like red hat?  will things for red hat work with ubuntu?
[03:39] <nalioth> !tell gyaresu about coc
[03:39] <ricosuave17> i like ubuntu except for the root problem
[03:39] <jasontech> RedHat is RPM
[03:40] <tritium> ricosuave17, there is no root problem
[03:40] <ricosuave17> yes there is
[03:40] <apokryphos> "All information on Ubuntuguide.org is present on the wiki in clearer and expanded form."   --- this is plainly untrue
[03:40] <ricosuave17> bbl
[03:40] <Toba> ;(
[03:40] <Toba> this sucks...
[03:40] <apokryphos> I removed it yesterday from the wiki because of that, and someone apaprently added it back in =)
[03:40] <cafuego> shane_: Not normally. You would need to convert the packages first, and then you have the problem that redhat uses strangely named shared libraries (ie: they broke stuff in incompatible ways)
[03:40] <apokryphos> heh
[03:40] <toasta> jasontech: now i get all kinds of errors, like type deb is not known, and when i load the update manager it opens then closes
[03:40] <tritium> apokryphos, but, ubuntuguide does not always give the best advice
[03:41] <nalioth> apokryphos: so edit the wiki to make it true
[03:41] <apokryphos> tritium: I agreee entirely; but I don't think we should lie about what it does have
[03:41] <jasontech> Use Synapatics
[03:41] <shane_> Is there a place that we can get drivers for ubuntu, like for wusb11 linksys?
[03:41] <tritium> apokryphos, I wasn't suggesting that
[03:41] <toasta> as in
[03:41] <apokryphos> tritium: I did yesterday, and someone changed it, as I see now. :)
[03:41] <jasontech> You just removed the "us." part, right?
[03:41] <jasontech> And left the rest?
[03:42] <toasta> yeah all of them
[03:42] <tensor> hmmm, anyone tried modifying the defaut /etc/init.d/httpd script to point to a compiled-from-source apache2?
[03:42] <jasontech> I don't mean the whole line
[03:42] <toasta> there were like 6 instances
[03:42] <Toba> I did system>preferences>icons and taskbars and then unchecked "show icons in menus".  Now I get a little error message that says "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit.".  When I click ok, it does it again. and again. and again.
[03:42] <Toba> does anyone know why that is and how to fix it?
[03:42] <dinocazares> How do I gain root priviliges, with sudo?
[03:42] <toasta> no, i left the line just removed the us.
[03:42] <tritium> sudo -i, for one
[03:42] <shane_> \what is sudo?
[03:42] <tritium> there are a few different switches you can use
[03:42] <apokryphos> !sudo
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:43] <dinocazares> tritium:What's the -i in sudo -i for?
[03:43] <Toba> I see nobody wants to help me
[03:43] <Toba> thanks anyways
[03:43] <tritium> dinocazares, for a shell.  try "man sudo" to read the manpage description of that option
[03:43] <jasontech> Try Synaptics under System / Admin
[03:43] <bob2> Toba: there seems little reason to take it personally
[03:43] <Toba> I know
[03:43] <tritium> Toba, be patient please
[03:43] <shane_> toba I would help if I knew enough.
[03:43] <toasta> same here
[03:43] <Toba> but it sorta pisses me off that a simple checkbox in the preferences would screw my box over
[03:44] <jasontech> Someone over on #gnome had a panel problem
[03:44] <nalioth> Toba: if nobody is here that knows the answer to your question, do you want us making something up?
[03:44] <bob2> Toba: it has do nothing of the sort
[03:44] <Toba> nalioth: sure
[03:44] <Toba> :)
[03:44] <bob2> Toba: worst come to worst, you delete your gnome settings and you're fine
[03:44] <Toba> I also wonder why the hell all the programs I used in the last five years open up when I reboot
[03:45] <Toba> when I click x I mean close, not come back when I do :)
[03:45] <jasontech> And did this: gconftool-2 --shutdown then rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel and then pkill gnome-panel... not sure if it will work for you
[03:45] <sds> hello #ubuntu.... how can I stop X to install graphics drivers... ? I tried 'sudo init 3' to change the run level, tried pressing ctrl-alt-f1 but nothing gives...
[03:45] <bob2> sds: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:45] <tritium> sds, drop to a virtual console, and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[03:45] <bob2> this is not redhat, switching to runlevel 3 does not do anything useful
[03:45] <jasontech> I wonder why the Evolution people don't keep the reminders as closed when you do an upgrade from 1.x
[03:45] <sds> i see
[03:46] <jasontech> Imaging getting 400 reminders all at once
[03:46] <spermie_411> this girl just told me she wanted me to put it in her butt =?
[03:46] <tritium> sds, here's some info on that: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[03:46] <sds> thanks guys, i'll go have a look
[03:46] <tritium> spermie_411, and there's no need for you to mention that here
[03:46] <toasta> jasontech: could i use someone elses source.list
[03:46] <nalioth> jasontech: i wonder why the evolution devs forgot the weather feature
[03:46] <pluffsy> hello.
[03:46] <struggler> Spamassassin won't detect dccifd, dcc_home set in /etc/default/spamassassin, dccproc works ok, any help?
[03:46] <jasontech> Just a sec toasta
[03:47] <spermie_411> well shes the one that mentioned it
[03:47] <pluffsy> anyone here running ubuntu on a powerbook 1400?
[03:47] <toasta> cool
[03:47] <spermie_411> in here
[03:47] <bob2> spermie_411: please stay on-topic
[03:47] <bob2> pluffsy: if it's new-world, it should work fine
[03:47] <spermie_411> anywho then'
[03:47] <pluffsy> bob2: it's everything but new world. :)
[03:48] <bob2> pluffsy: then it's going to be long and painful
[03:48] <nalioth> pluffsy: got an iBook here
[03:48] <pluffsy> bob2: darn...
[03:48] <bob2> and probably not very rewarding
[03:48] <toasta> i tried running ubuntu on a G4, it ran horrible, probably my fault
[03:48] <jasontech> toasta: http://www.electronerdz.com/sources.list
[03:48] <pluffsy> nalioth: lucky you :)
[03:48] <nalioth> pluffsy: what is your question?
[03:48] <bob2> toasta: how so?
[03:48] <nalioth> toasta: you should try again, G4 ubuntu smokes!
[03:48] <mouse_> hi all, does anyone know of a good linux replacement for fineprint?
[03:48] <_james_> in konversation how do you disable automatic /list command
[03:48] <jasontech> I know, no summary in Evo 2
[03:49] <pluffsy> nalioth: how hard it would be to get ubuntu running on a pb1400c.
[03:49] <toasta> it's just really slow and had video probs.
[03:49] <nalioth> pluffsy: as bob2 said, if its a New World model, no problem at all
[03:49] <toasta> it runs mac x just fine though so i fugured i did something wrong
[03:49] <Velcan> okay ... so that deb package i installed using --force-depends is working fine. however now when i open synaptic i get 'You have 1 broken package on your system!  Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.' ... how can i stop that?
[03:49] <bob2> mouse_: best to explain what "fineprint" is
[03:49] <_james_> i have konversation set up nice it auto connects to my channels and identifies and connects to freenode, but it does a list command and will lag for like 5 minutes
[03:49] <_james_> therefor e taking 5 minutes
[03:49] <bob2> Velcan: remove the package
[03:49] <nalioth> pluffsy: if its an old-world model, you'll be challenged, but it's very doable
[03:50] <bob2> Velcan: apt, synaptic, aptitude, etc, will not work on a broken system
[03:50] <apokryphos> shane_: DCC chat? Erm..
[03:50] <pluffsy> right. well I'll guess I have to  run yellowdog instead. I'm not much of a linux hacker, yet...
[03:50] <toasta> jasontech: so can i empty my source.list and paste this in
[03:50] <nalioth> Velcan: fix the broken package
[03:50] <jasontech> Yes
[03:50] <Velcan> its not broken
[03:50] <pluffsy> btw are there any good books for someone who's not new to linux but long from a pro?
[03:50] <ablyss> hi all
[03:50] <nalioth> pluffsy: yes, YDL is better suited for macs
[03:50] <tritium> Velcan, it is because you had to use --force
[03:50] <shane_> apok having trouble with all the chatter.
[03:50] <mouse_> ah ok
[03:50] <jasontech> You will get a few errors on the backports, but the rest should work
[03:50] <bob2> Velcan: it is indeed broken, it's dependencies aren't satisfied
[03:50] <theplateau> in konversation how do you disable automatic /list command
[03:51] <theplateau> i have konversation set up nice it auto connects to my channels and identifies and connects to freenode, but it does a list command and will lag for like 5 minutes
[03:51] <toasta> cool, given it a try now
[03:51] <Velcan> it says it want python2.3-gtk2 when indeed i have python2.4-gtk2 installed
[03:51] <jasontech> Then do an apt-get update
[03:51] <bob2> pluffsy: I hear "linux in a nutshell" from o'reilly is quite good
[03:51] <jasontech> Or Reload in Synaptics
[03:51] <Discipulus> Velcan, apt-get --fix-missing
[03:51] <bob2> Velcan: so, install python2.3-gtk2.  they are different and incompatibile packages.
[03:51] <theplateau> linux in a nutshell is a good reference
[03:51] <shane_> Does anyone have a linksys wusb11 running?
[03:51] <mouse_> for clarification, does anyone have any good printing software that allows printing multiple pages in 1 page? to save paper...
[03:51] <theplateau> http://jaypara.sytes.net/files/ftp/ebooks/
[03:51] <nalioth> pluffsy: the only thing you'll have to really do differently is use BootX instead of yaboot
[03:51] <theplateau> all the linux documentation u could imagine
[03:51] <Toba_> someone PLEASE tell me why the HELL ubuntu is running all the programs I've run in the last ten years whenever I boot
[03:52] <pluffsy> nalioth: but I was thinking of installing ubuntu on my powerbook g3 new world. would you still sugest ydl on that mac? because I like ubuntu better, atleast after a short experiment on my emac.
[03:52] <bob2> mouse_: sure, lots of tools can do that, including the gnome print manager thing
[03:52] <jasontech> Are you saving sessions?
[03:52] <theplateau> running linux is good i chekc it out the library continuously
[03:52] <Toba_> I was
[03:52] <tritium> theplateau, all legal, I hope?
[03:52] <Velcan> okay. thanks.
[03:52] <nalioth> pluffsy: definitely run ubuntu on your new world mac
[03:52] <Toba_> but I turned it off
[03:52] <Toba_> shouldn't it forget it now?
[03:52] <Toba_> I would think os
[03:52] <Toba_> but noooo
[03:52] <nalioth> pluffsy: my G3 iBook runs great with ubuntu
[03:52] <bob2> Toba_: it has nothing to do with "when you boot", it's your gnome session.
[03:52] <Toba_> how do I just make it stop doing it?
[03:52] <Toba_> I turned off save session settings
[03:52] <ablyss> create a new session and save it as default
[03:52] <Toba_> thank you
[03:52] <theplateau> yea i paid for all ebooks, im unusually wealthy :)
[03:52] <bob2> Toba_: rm -r ~/.gnome2/session*
[03:52] <pluffsy> nalioth: but how is it long and painful to run bootx instead of yaboot?
[03:53] <bob2> Toba_: while logged out
[03:53] <nalioth> pluffsy: not at all
[03:53] <bimberi> Velcan: my apologies - it would appear that the advice I gave you earlier was bad :(
[03:53] <mouse_> bob2, oh!... i'll try that out... i'm one step closer to moving to linux.. heh
[03:53] <nalioth> pluffsy: just a different procedure, is all
[03:53] <Toba_> bob2: how exactly do I do anything while logged out?
[03:53] <bob2> Toba_: tho that will probably ruin your applet list
[03:53] <Toba_> isn't that impossible?
[03:53] <Toba_> applet list?
[03:53] <mouse_> bob2, do u noe any for kde?
[03:53] <Toba_> what is that?
[03:53] <bob2> Toba_: er, while logged out of gnome
[03:53] <harris|u> Is have 2 SATA harddrives plugged in, how can I see the other hd?
[03:53] <giant> hello everyone
[03:53] <bob2> mouse_: #kubuntu
[03:53] <ablyss> very good info bob2 :-)
[03:53] <nalioth> pluffsy: how much linux experience do you have?
[03:54] <shane_> Does anyone have a linksys wusb11 running?
[03:54] <Velcan> bimberi:  np ... i would just assume that in going for python2.3-gtk2 -> python2.4-gtk2 they actually improved things ...
[03:54] <oberon> why am I getting so many md5 mismatches off of the apt servers?
[03:54] <toasta> i dont shane_
[03:54] <dylan_> will breezy be cool?
[03:54] <bob2> shane_: it'd be easier if you just asked your question, even if it is just "Is it possible to use a linksys wusb11 with Ubuntu?"
[03:54] <Velcan> but i guess i'll install 2.3 as well :-\
[03:54] <mouse_> bob2, oh... kk
[03:54] <bob2> oberon: /topic
[03:54] <bob2> dylan_: yes
[03:54] <jasontech> Toba_, check ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[03:54] <jasontech> Or any other "session" files
[03:54] <Toba_> I created a new one with no startup programs
[03:54] <nalioth> dylan_: of course!
[03:54] <Toba_> should that work?
[03:54] <toasta> jasontech: i get E: Type '' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <ricosuave17> hehe i fixed windows
[03:55] <dylan_> what will the improvements on ubuntu be when breezy is available?
[03:55] <toasta> sorry, im really trying to not wear you out
[03:55] <nalioth> dylan_: lots more coolness
[03:55] <shane_> I know that red hat has a rpm for wusb11,  I am just trying to find some one with experiance to help me set it up on here so I can cut the copper.
[03:55] <toasta> i just dont get it
[03:55] <Toba_> now how would I go about making the fucking panel stop crashing?
[03:55] <jasontech> What do you get that in
[03:55] <Toba_> it'd be cool if someone knows how
[03:55] <tritium> ablyss, look in universe ;)
[03:55] <toasta> apt-get
[03:55] <bob2> Toba_: dude, chill out
[03:55] <bob2> your attitude is highly unhelpful
[03:55] <Toba_> I'm trying....
[03:56] <Toba_> my system was fine until this one little setting fucked me over :(
[03:56] <bob2> not very hard it seems
[03:56] <jasontech> You did an apt-get update?
[03:56] <pluffsy> nalioth: erm I've installed and used like three old world beige g3:s under ydl3 as servers and one as desktop. haven't done stuff like compiled kernels, just compiled some simpler packages.
[03:56] <bob2> Toba_: so, you did what I suggested?  and you are using hoary, right?
[03:56] <toasta> yes
[03:56] <Toba_> yeah I am bob
[03:56] <dylan_> apt vs synaptic which is better any why?
[03:56] <Toba_> you suggested deleting my configs right?
[03:56] <shorty114> dylan_, they're the same thing
[03:56] <Toba_> I did
[03:56] <bob2> dylan_: they're different
[03:56] <goldfish> dpkg 4evar !
[03:56] <shorty114> apt = cli, synaptic is the GUI
[03:56] <shorty114> i think
[03:56] <bob2> dylan_: a better comparison is aptitude vs synaptic
[03:56] <dylan_> got these messages:
[03:57] <dylan_>  dylan_, they're the same thing
[03:57] <dylan_> Toba_ I did
[03:57] <dylan_> bob2 dylan_: they're different
[03:57] <pluffsy> nalioth: does ubuntu work with the default kernel on an old world pb 1400c or would I have to do something like compile my own?
[03:57] <jasontech> What is the first line in your sources.list?
[03:57] <Toba_> I think my session problem is fixed
[03:57] <shorty114> dylan_, i'd listen to bob2
[03:57] <shorty114> :)
[03:57] <jasontech> synaptic is a gui
[03:57] <ricosuave17> is there any way to fix the root on ubuntu
[03:57] <nalioth> pluffsy: it'll work fine
[03:57] <jasontech> No
[03:57] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: is there a way for you to read links?
[03:57] <oberon> bob2: what does the topic have to do w/ it?
[03:57] <tritium> ricosuave17, it doesn't need fixing, but if you mean enable the account, we've showed you the URL
[03:57] <Toba_> would panel crashes be a gnome problem?
[03:58] <dylan_> ok ill listen to bob2
[03:58] <toasta> lol
[03:58] <jasontech> Just use the root terminal, its the same thing
[03:58] <nalioth> pluffsy: the thing is: bootx requires os8 or 9 (it's a macos program that loads linux)
[03:58] <jasontech> Just like being in root
[03:58] <ricosuave17> but that url only tell u how to use sudo
[03:58] <jasontech> And if you want, you can do nautilus --browser to use the gui for files
[03:58] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: absurd -- it does
[03:58] <tritium> ricosuave17, it tells you more.
[03:58] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: man sudo will tell you as well
[03:58] <nalioth> pluffsy: so you'll need to manually move your kernel and init.whatever to your macos partition (so bootx can see it)
[03:58] <toasta> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386
[03:59] <tritium> ricosuave17, see the section titled "Enabling the root account"
[03:59] <ablyss> well, if you have a piss poor CPU and rather wait a hour for synaptic to load.. and you enjoy that sort of masochism stuff... then synaptic is for you!
[03:59] <nalioth> pluffsy: and thats the only REAL difference in the linux usability
[03:59] <toasta> how do you load synaptic
[03:59] <ricosuave17> ok
[03:59] <jasontech> toasta, what are you using to edit the file?
[03:59] <toasta> i know that sounds stupid
[03:59] <jasontech> Synaptic is under System / Admin
[03:59] <toasta> openoffice writter
[04:00] <XRayNuke> pluffsy: the 1400 is a NuBus machine. It's not just Old World, it's entirely pre-Open Firmware.
[04:00] <toasta> is this bad
[04:00] <nalioth> toasta: use text editors, oOo introduces lots of non text garbage
[04:00] <jasontech> Yes
[04:00] <jasontech> Very
[04:00] <pluffsy> XRayNuke: and that's bad? :(
[04:00] <jasontech> Use gedit
[04:00] <toasta> ahh
[04:00] <nalioth> XRayNuke: and you use bootx on it
[04:00] <tensor> use vi
[04:00] <ablyss> mousepad
[04:00] <jasontech> Thats why it doesn't work
[04:00] <bimberi> oberon: the md5sum issue is related to the "us.archive currently broken" bit - expecting you to know that was a stretch though...
[04:00] <goldfish> use notepad.exe with wine
[04:00] <ablyss> lol
[04:00] <dylan_> no, notepad blowz
[04:01] <jasontech> lol
[04:01] <w00t> anyone know what package sshfs is in?
[04:01] <w00t> can't seem to find it with apt-cache search ...
[04:01] <toasta> lol
[04:01] <oberon> bimberi: do'h missed it
[04:01] <RedDevil> hi all... I have made my first fresh install of ubuntu... then I tried to run the synaptic package manager (through the  menu and using a terminal) but it does not run (menu -> .... child terminated with 1 status; terminal -> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:)... what can it be?
[04:01] <jasontech> I'd of said vi, but I figured gedit would be easier
[04:01] <ricosuave17> alright turns out i had the wrong link
[04:01] <goldfish> w00t: shfs-utils ?
[04:01] <bob2> pluffsy: http://www.icedtrip.net/guides/woody_1400.txt
[04:01] <ricosuave17> i found the one u gave me
[04:01] <tritium> woot, apt-cache search sshfs didn't return what goldfish points out?
[04:01] <w00t> goldfish, doesn't look like it... i think thats different
[04:02] <ricosuave17> cause u gave me like 4 links
[04:02] <bob2> RedDevil: did you do an "export" install?
[04:02] <w00t> shfs-utils is a different apt i think
[04:02] <toasta> i told you smokin another one would help
[04:02] <tritium> ricosuave17, I gave you one
[04:02] <Velcan> anyone know a good site to search and download .deps? coming from fedora i use to use freshrpms.net all the time
[04:02] <pluffsy> bob2: I've read that. but I thought the normal kernel supported 1400c these days? or is that just ydls kernel?
[04:02] <ricosuave17> its ok i know how to fix it now thanks. i like ubuntu now i just need to get icewm
[04:02] <apokryphos> ricosuave17: her'es it again:
[04:02] <apokryphos> !sudo
[04:02] <Velcan> .debs**
[04:02] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:03] <RedDevil> bob2: export install? I gess not, but I am not shure...
[04:03] <nalioth> Velcan: use synaptic to get your programs
[04:03] <goldfish> Velcan: use apt-get
[04:03] <goldfish> or that
[04:03] <tritium> Velcan, we use repositories :)
[04:03] <Velcan> i do
[04:03] <Velcan> but some times my repos i have set just dont cut it
[04:03] <XRayNuke> nalioth: I don't think *anything* can boot a NuBus Power Mac, except maybe mklinux
[04:03] <tritium> Velcan, do you have universe and multiverse?
[04:03] <Velcan> yes
[04:03] <bob2> pluffsy: I don't know, but I'd be very surprised if ubuntu installed on it
[04:03] <Velcan> for instance python2.3-gtk ...
[04:03] <toasta> jasontech: sorry but can you give me the link again, i lost it
[04:03] <bob2> pluffsy: (afaik 2.6 does not support nubus macines, but I coul certainly be wrong)
[04:03] <nalioth> XRayNuke: really? i was reading a howto t'other night about a version of bootx for em
[04:04] <jasontech> toasta, for future reference, never use openoffice to edit config files... http://www.electronerdz.com/sources.list
[04:04] <toasta> i put it down over there and i think someone took it
[04:04] <XRayNuke> nalioth: i'd be happy to be proved wrong though, i have a few of those around
[04:04] <bob2> Velcan: er, python2.3-gtk is in ubuntu itself
[04:04] <toasta> gotcha
[04:04] <pluffsy> bob2: are there some easy way for a linux idiot like me to check if 2.6 does support nubus?
[04:04] <Velcan> actually 2.3
[04:04] <Velcan> actually 2.4
[04:04] <w00t> ahh, interesting
[04:04] <bob2> pluffsy: google, I guess
[04:04] <nalioth> XRayNuke: lemme send you the links
[04:04] <bob2> Velcan: yes, both of them are in ubuntu
[04:04] <bob2> pluffsy: (ie not easily)
[04:05] <w00t> i install shfs-utils, and I don't have a sshfs executable, however i do now have a command called 'mount.shfs'
[04:05] <Velcan> synaptic shows no such python2.3-gtk2
[04:05] <jasontech> Use gedit, or learn vi
[04:05] <w00t> interesting...
[04:05] <jasontech> vi is quicker
[04:05] <bob2> Velcan: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, enable universe
[04:05] <goldfish> nano is nice
[04:05] <goldfish> ed !
[04:05] <pluffsy> bob2: right thanks.
[04:05] <Efwis> Has anyone else had problems running Blender??
[04:06] <Velcan> ... are you seeing it or something ... i enabled univers the same day i installed
[04:06] <bob2> I do, but I have no idea what factoid it has
[04:06] <bimberi> !info python2.3-gtk
[04:06] <bob2> Velcan: well, it is there
[04:06] <Velcan> i'll double check but ...
[04:06] <apokryphos> bob2: usually the one you'd first think of.. i.e. synaptic for that one
[04:06] <ErmaC`> can someone help me?
[04:07] <tritium> ErmaC`, no need to ask.  That's why we're here.
[04:07] <ricosuave17> does slapt-get work on ubuntu
[04:07] <toasta> okay, i got same errors, im given up, only so much one can do!
[04:07] <goldfish> whats up?
[04:07] <bob2> ricosuave17: no
[04:07] <ErmaC`> lol
[04:07] <goldfish> ricosuave17: lol
[04:07] <ErmaC`> hmmz wait
[04:07] <jasontech> toasta, open a terminal
[04:07] <ricosuave17> hey im a slackware dude
[04:07] <toasta> okay
[04:07] <goldfish> ricosuave17: apt-get for ubuntu
[04:07] <ricosuave17> can i get joe for ubuntu?
[04:07] <bob2> ricosuave17: presumably slapt-get is a knock-off of debian's apt-get
[04:07] <Velcan> grr
[04:07] <bob2> ricosuave17: of course
[04:07] <ErmaC`> first of all, how do i get the nicklist back :s i didn't remove it
[04:07] <jasontech> Then type in: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <ErmaC`> on xchat
[04:08] <jasontech> then erase everything, and paste what is in the link
[04:08] <jasontech> Then quit and save
[04:08] <jasontech> Then: sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <toasta> okay i did that
[04:08] <toasta> no joy
[04:08] <ErmaC`> i can't get my firefox running :s it tries to start, but then it just quits
[04:08] <Velcan> im looking synaptics repo settings as wee speak ...Community maintained (universe) is checked ... i see plenty of python2.3-othercrap ... but no python2.3-gtk2
[04:09] <ricosuave17> #launchpad
[04:09] <ErmaC`> how come.
[04:09] <ErmaC`> ?
[04:09] <ErmaC`> i can't get my firefox running :s it tries to start, but then it just quits
[04:09] <ErmaC`> thats my question
[04:09] <toasta> error in line 1 of source.list
[04:09] <bob2> Velcan: well, it is there
[04:09] <ErmaC`> how to fix it
[04:09] <bob2> ErmaC`: what have you done since it last worked?
[04:09] <ricosuave17> does anyone know what launchpad is?
[04:09] <ErmaC`> hehe i tried to update it :s
[04:10] <ErmaC`> but then it said it can't update or something or can't install, and now i cant run firefox anymore
[04:10] <bob2> ErmaC`: "tried to update it"?
[04:10] <Toba> hmm
[04:10] <Toba> it seems to work fine now
[04:10] <ErmaC`> yes
[04:10] <jasontech> Ok... try this, in the terminal: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[04:10] <Velcan> damnit ... i want your magical version of synaptic
[04:11] <tritium> ErmaC`, how?
[04:11] <Velcan> :) humor intended there ...
[04:11] <ErmaC`> bob2, there is an update 1.0.5, and i downloaded it used pakt-get install firefox then and it started fine