[07:07] <kylescottmcgill> dulio: defaults are normally pretty good, but with single application servers, you can tweak it to work more for you, and sift out cruft you dont need/want
[07:07] <devnull_> Xabster, try the live cd
[07:07] <Ben64> Xabster: there is a very high chance ubuntu will "just work"
[07:07] <dr_willis> eos_:  i would check the config files and ownerships of the problem user
[07:08] <kylescottmcgill> dulio: im always willing to lend a helping hand :)
[07:08] <devnull_> Xabster, it is possible you may be missing some features .. but i would bet 90+ of your hardware will be supported out of the box
[07:08] <anth0ny> When I run 'users' in terminal, I see 'anthony' twice. When I run 'uptime', I see '2 users'.  Why would this be?
[07:08] <eos_> dr_willis: which configuration file? I tried deleting .gimp on the users home dir but did not work .... any other relevant configuration files?
[07:08] <Ben64> anth0ny: every instance of a login adds another
[07:08] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: are you logged in twice?
[07:08] <kylescottmcgill> in different TTY's?
[07:09] <anth0ny> kylescottmcgill: it would appear that I am logged in.  I don't kow how/why
[07:09] <dr_willis> eos_:  no idea. im not on a ubuntu box to look. and havent used gimp in months
[07:09] <dulio> kylescottmcgill: thx, I will learn more here.
[07:09] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: run w in the terminal
[07:09] <anth0ny> Ben64: the real quesiton is, why are there two instances of login?
[07:09] <dr_willis> eos_:  look for stuff owned by root for starters
[07:09] <kylescottmcgill> it will tell you where are you logged in
[07:09] <Ben64> anth0ny: open another terminal and try again
[07:09] <eos_> dr_willis: could not find anything really
[07:09] <dr_willis> bbl
[07:09] <eos_> dr_willis: thanks a lot!
[07:10] <anth0ny> kylescottmcgill: http://pastie.org/5614532
[07:10] <anth0ny> kylescottmcgill: so, looks like Ubuntu is a user and then the terminal is another?
[07:10] <anth0ny> Ben64: ^
[07:10] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: i wouldnt worry about that, your Terminal has just 'logged you in'
[07:11] <kylescottmcgill> TTY7 is GUI, everything is more or less encapsulated into TTY7
[07:11] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: ya
[07:12] <anth0ny> The real issue is that Ubunut12.04 seems to be running really slowly. I used to run Mint and before that, Ubuntu 11.04 and they ran so much faster. Trying to figure out what's causing the major delay that occurs when the system starts up and to open applicaitons
[07:13] <devnull_> anth0ny,   Unity
[07:13] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: yeah try booting into Classic mode (i dont know if this enable by default)
[07:13] <devnull_> anth0ny, i had to tweak unity a lot on my old laptop to get decent speed ... and minesweeper was laggy as all heck
[07:13] <anth0ny> devnull_: what, is unity known for being really slow?
[07:13] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i think it needs to be downloaded
[07:13] <anth0ny> ugh
[07:14] <anth0ny> what a bummer
[07:14] <devnull_> anth0ny, not particularly ... but it is a 3d desktop .. and the side-scroll bars can cause latency issues ... it is new toolkits
[07:14] <Ben64> anth0ny: what graphics card do  you have
[07:14] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: ohk, i install Gnome3, and it appears, so i wasnt sure if it came with Gnome3 or it just enabled it as a fallback
[07:14] <devnull_> might need better graphic drivers
[07:14] <devnull_> i think you have to get it seperate ... gnome-classic ?
[07:14] <devnull_> or you can get cinnamon
[07:15] <devnull_> or some other fork of gnome2 even
[07:15] <Ben64> Ubuntu 2D might have better performance
[07:15] <Ben64> cinnamon is not supported here
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> i use awesome wm :D its awesome....
[07:15] <devnull_> gotcha
[07:15] <anth0ny> Ben64: DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> anth0ny: that should be sweet as
[07:15] <Ben64> anth0ny: do you have the proprietary drivers for it?
[07:15] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i used WM for years until sawfish came out
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> hmm i will have a look
[07:15] <kylescottmcgill> oh the movie :D
[07:16] <anth0ny> Ben64 - i believe so. it should be mentioned that when it was running fast, it was without that card
[07:16] <devnull_> sawfish was the Window Manager for gnome ... then it was called meta-city i think
[07:16] <devnull_> in the past that is
[07:16] <devnull_> anth0ny, you might need the ATI proprietary drivers ... or see if you are running the radeon open source one ... it worked for me on my old laptop
[07:16] <kylescottmcgill> oh i see, yeah i like my Tiling Window Managers, i enjoy Gnome3 as well, but i feel more productive in Awesome
[07:16] <devnull_> unfortunately i am using the ATI fglrx prop. drivers on my new laptop
[07:17] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i felt the same way ... Window Maker was awesome .. it still is ... i just feel that gnome stepped it up and has a good feature set and doesn't take up to much realestate anymore
[07:17] <anth0ny> brb
[07:17] <kylescottmcgill> ya fair enough
[07:18] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, though when unity came out i was tempted to go back to WM for a bit :)
[07:18] <rocket_> I fogot how to register into a channel, its been awhile
[07:18] <somsip> !register | rocket_
[07:19] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, i loved all the docked applets ... it was so sweet ...   to bad Enlightenment still hasn't made it mainstream yet
[07:19] <WeThePeople> what is a webserver for precise?
[07:19] <somsip> devnull_: Enlightment is now 1.0
[07:19] <devnull_> WeThePeople, Apache2
[07:20] <kylescottmcgill> Yeah, a lot of people seem to look down on it, because it requires a fari amount of attention prior to it working the way people expect, idk meh
[07:20] <devnull_> somsip, i saw the E17 thing as its own distro
[07:20] <kylescottmcgill> WeThePeople: sudo service apache2 status/reload/restart/stop/start are your friends if you have made any config changes
[07:21] <kylescottmcgill> /var/www is your default Web Directory
[07:21] <kylescottmcgill> <IP_ADDRESS> will navigate to that directory
[07:21] <somsip> devnull_: you mean Elementary? Enlightment is a wm (and stuff) AFAICT. Still, I'm on awesome too so makes no difference to me
[07:21] <dr_willis> enlightment has slowly grown into a desktop. but i find it.. lacking. ;)
[07:22] <devnull_> somsip, yea something like that ... havne't kept up on it in awhile ... since compiz i haven't seen a need for the effects of enlightenment
[07:22] <somsip> devnull_: agreed, and must get back to work and on topic...
[07:22] <devnull_> somsip, i hear ya ... i am procrastinating
[07:23] <devnull_> time to make the phps do that thing they do
[07:23] <kylescottmcgill> ya imma brb good luck WeThePeople
[07:23] <WeThePeople> thanks
[07:23] <eos_> dr_willis: even with the new user, if I log in I have the same problem .... it crashes again
[07:24] <dr_willis> eos_:  that is weird.  you are using gimp from the default repos?
[07:24] <eos_> dr_willis: yes
[07:24] <devnull_> anyone have any idea on how to get my quad speakers plus subwoofer to work in 12.10 ?  i have no subwoofer and only 2 channels
[07:25] <eos_> dr_willis: did you see the log file I posted by any chance? I cannot make sense of it
[07:25] <hackinblack> Sooo Is ubuntu mobile going to be able to be installed on existing phones say if there unlocked rooted etc. On android?
[07:25] <dr_willis> eos_:  it ment very little to me.. warnings then a segfault
[07:25] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  we dont know
[07:25] <devnull_> hackinblack, i haven't read anything ... but i would imagine it is being targetted at newer devices
[07:25] <eos_> dr_willis: what is the best way to debug?
[07:26] <dr_willis> theres no real details out about it hackinblack
[07:26] <devnull_> i guess people forget there was linux based phones over 12 years ago
[07:26] <dr_willis> eos_:  theres debugging/strace tools  but ive never used them
[07:26] <hackinblack> Well that sucks I just saw the video :(
[07:26] <devnull_> hackinblack, yea im excited to ... we will have to wait :(
[07:26] <dr_willis> hackinblack:  and it may be a year+ befor you get your hands on one
[07:27] <hackinblack> Devnull 12 years ago I was playing with toys lol
[07:27] <devnull_> hackinblack, haha ... your the second person to say that today
[07:27] <devnull_> someone called me old because i have been using linux since 98 and that was when they were born
[07:28] <maqr> devnull_: we are old
[07:28] <dr_willis> get off my lawn!
[07:28] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:28] <maqr> yeah!
[07:28] <hackinblack> Lol dev
[07:28] <Xabster> devnull_: to 14 year olds everyone with pubes are old
[07:28] <devnull_> i suppose ... im only 28  ... you hooligans
[07:28] <Xabster> take no offense
[07:29] <hackinblack> I'm 19 wasn't much into technology 12 years ago
[07:29] <dr_willis> these days 6 yr olfs got their own cellphones
[07:29] <Ben64> ubuntu phone :|
[07:29] <dr_willis> and 100000 friends on facebook
[07:30] <hackinblack> It's insane
[07:30] <Ben64> but i like android...
[07:30] <kion> Droid rocks
[07:30] <maqr> android is pretty sweet, i'm not sure what the deal with ubuntu phone is
[07:30] <devnull_> well your lucky you are coming to linux now ... it is a lot easier now than back then
[07:30] <dr_willis> ive seen so much hype and vaporware  - so i will wait and see...
[07:30] <maqr> kion: *cringe* don't use the motorola branding :(
[07:30] <devnull_> i remember waiting for usb support in the kernel
[07:30] <hackinblack> Yea android is the best in my opinion but I'm excited for ubuntu
[07:30] <eos_> dr_willis: thanks a lot, have to go!
[07:30] <Ben64> i don't see the point of ubuntu phone
[07:31] <dr_willis> people dident see the point in smartphonnnes a few years back
[07:31] <hackinblack> ^
[07:31] <Ben64> but we all already have smart phones
[07:32] <Ben64> and we chose either android or apple, and we have apps and everything for whichever platform
[07:32] <devnull_> Ben64, i wouldn't mind giving ubuntu a try on a phone
[07:32] <hackinblack> I'm on my smartphone right now lol using android irc
[07:32] <devnull_> your forgetting about blackberry ... which is dying
[07:32] <dr_willis> and  no longer need other devices like mp3 players and tomtoms...   ubuntu phone could eliminate your laptop.
[07:32] <Ben64> my phone already eliminated my laptop
[07:32] <wachpwnski> Is there any reason ZFS-FUSE is spawned as a process many times on my box?
[07:32] <dr_willis> ircing from my phone also
[07:32] <hackinblack> Idk about eliminate with me I will always fall back to a laptop or desktop.
[07:33] <kion> Can someone explain me what Zeitgheist process is?
[07:33] <Ben64> my phone has fast internet everywhere in the country
[07:33] <Ben64> !info zeitgeist
[07:33] <kion> !info is that a command???
[07:33] <dr_willis> kion:  a  system/user ussage logger/data toool to show you what files you have been working on
[07:34] <dr_willis> can show you how many hrs you hav e been using this or that app. or other things
[07:35] <kion> dr_willis: Can it be used to spy on people? Should I uninstall it?
[07:35] <dr_willis> kion:  should be online guides about it.
[07:35] <dr_willis> its handy in some cases
[07:37] <nipar> Can anyone recommend a nice way of running a windows VM inside ubuntu, so I can make a switch of OS and still have the few vital windows services running?
[07:37] <dr_willis> 'switch of os' meaning?
[07:37] <nipar> I want to be on ubuntu at all times
[07:37] <dr_willis> you  can run windows in vbox.
[07:38] <nipar> but I have a few vital windows services I need, that keeps me from it
[07:38] <dr_willis> some apps may not run well. depending on the app
[07:38] <nipar> Would this drag performance down a lot, if I had windows running in a vbox literally 24/7?
[07:38] <dr_willis> depends on what its doing
[07:38] <hackinblack> Depends
[07:38] <dr_willis> and your specs
[07:39] <nipar> only one way to find out I guess
[07:40] <nipar> booting over to ubuntu, hopefully for the last time :l
[07:41] <dulio> how to ignore login/logout info here?
[07:41] <somsip> dulio: depends on your client
[07:41] <dulio> somsip: This is irssi
[07:42] <hackinblack> Check settings
[07:42] <dulio> hackinblack: ok,I'll try
[07:42] <somsip> dulio: I have mine in ~/.irssi/config but you can probably do it from /save config or whatever it is...
[07:42] <somsip> dulio: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[07:43] <OerHeks> somsip +1
[07:43] <dulio> somsip: 3q
[07:43] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: inside Alsamixer, or amixer when you pick the card what do you get?
[07:44] <kelvinella> hi how to get weather applet to work?
[07:44] <kelvinella> i did this : sudo apt-get install indicator-weather
[07:44] <kelvinella> but still no weather applet in 12.04
[07:45] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, yea i have gone through all of that ... there is my hdmi out with nothing and my card with the standard mixers .. master, mic, pcm etc ..
[07:45] <dr_willis> say a neat alternative weather applet thing on the omgubuntu sites top 10 apps for 2012 list
[07:45] <devnull_> i can virtually bump it to 6 channels ... but still no sub
[07:45] <kion> kelvinella: did sudo apt-get install indicator-weather work?
[07:45] <kylescottmcgill> devnull_: lame, i dont have surround, so im not sure sorry
[07:45] <dulio> it seems work. ^.^
[07:46] <devnull_> kylescottmcgill, well surround or not .. i would deal with just 3 channels ... f-left, f-right and lfe through sub would be nice
[07:46] <kelvinella> i mean i run sudo apt-get install indicator-weather it installs but how to add applet in 12.04??
[07:46] <kelvinella> cant right click on panel and add??
[07:47] <devnull_> kelvinella, try launching it from dash
[07:47] <devnull_> that status area has a new system for having apps on it
[07:47] <kelvinella> http://pastebin.com/SbtkMtss
[07:47] <kion> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now my google earth is gone!!! can someone tell me why???
[07:47] <kelvinella> devnill, launch what?
[07:48] <kelvinella> devnull_, launch what? how?
[07:48] <AndroUser2> Kino why did u update ?
[07:48] <devnull_> kelvinella, from the dash .... you using unity ?
[07:49] <kelvinella> devnull_, oic
[07:49] <kelvinella> devnull_, i still stuck in the gnome mindset
[07:49] <devnull_> kelvinella, i understand ... it takes a bit to get used to
[07:50] <kelvinella> /usr/bin/indicator-weather crash
[07:50] <AndroUser2>
[07:50] <kion> AndroUser2: wanted to have the latest version of all the programs
[07:50] <AndroUser2>
[07:50] <devnull_> from a terminal run indicator-weather
[07:51] <mih1406> Hi, Is can I setup Ubutnu One using the terminal only?
[07:51] <kelvinella> when i add location and click apply, it crashes
[07:51] <shenhd> exit
[07:51] <devnull_> kelvinella, did you launch it from the terminal
[07:52] <kelvinella> should i pick google or yahoo weather?
[07:52] <kelvinella> i did that in dash
[07:52] <devnull_> idk
[07:52] <devnull_> do it from the term so you can see the output
[07:52] <kelvinella> wait
[07:53] <kelvinella> how to run applet in terminal?
[07:53] <devnull_> indicator-weather
[07:53] <devnull_> just type the command and hit enter
[07:53] <kion> Kevinella I since unity i had to get rid of that app because it kept crashing on my system
[07:54] <kelvinella> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:54] <kelvinella>   File "/usr/bin/indicator-weather", line 1883, in on_apply
[07:54] <kelvinella>     (location_code, location_details) = self.location.export_location_details()
[07:54] <kelvinella>   File "/usr/bin/indicator-weather", line 405, in export_location_details
[07:54] <kelvinella>     return (self.location_code, self.location_details)
[07:54] <FloodBot1> kelvinella: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <kelvinella> AttributeError: Location instance has no attribute 'location_code'
[07:54] <kelvinella> sorry
[07:54] <devnull_> kelvinella, is the location code supposed to be in weather format ?
[07:55] <kelvinella> ?
[07:55] <devnull_> like in code
[07:55] <devnull_> you have to find out the code for the location you want
[07:55] <ikla_> is ubuntu hard to install
[07:55] <devnull_> ikla_, no
[07:55] <ikla_> I'm thinking about trying it out
[07:55] <ihackeverything> UK no
[07:55] <kion> ikla_ very simple
[07:55] <devnull_> ikla_, less clicks than windows i believe
[07:55] <ihackeverything> Yea also dual booting
[07:55] <kion> ikla_ linux is the best OS, and Ubuntu is a great linux distro
[07:55] <ikla_> why is it the best
[07:56] <kion> ikla_ highly recommended
[07:56] <devnull_> kelvinella, they use a number format i believe to identify locations
[07:56] <kelvinella> so it doesnt work?
[07:56] <ikla_> hmm
[07:56] <ikla_> do I download the iso image
[07:56] <ikla_> can it fit on cdr?
[07:57] <kion> ikla_ because it allows me to controll my hardware exactly as I want and because of the huge amounts of software there is , not to mention the security etc?. I could go on and on..
[07:57] <devnull_> how do you pick your location for the weather app ? did you just type in a city and state or something ?
[07:57] <devnull_> because that isn't how it works
[07:57] <kion> Ikla_: yes download your iso image burn it into a disk or usb and boot from there
[07:57] <devnull_> but i can not say if it will work after putting the correct code in ... it might not work at all either way
[07:58] <devnull_> ikla_, has to be a CD with atleast 750mb of space ... i suggest usb or dvd
[07:58] <devnull_> ubuntu has ditched trying to keep the images small enough to fit on most cds
[08:01] <mohi666> I'm trying to install a media center server on my Linux box to stream 1080P videos to my Google TV box. Any idea what server I should install?
[08:01] <devnull_> myth ?
[08:02] <ikonia> mohi666: it depends what your google TV box needs as a client
[08:02] <HackinBlack> FloodBot1
[08:02] <ikonia> mohi666: I'd approach it from that viewpoint
[08:02] <HackinBlack> FloodBot1
[08:02] <mohi666> ikonia, I know there's an app that supports DLNA out of the box
[08:03] <mohi666> however, I may end up having videos in different format. I'm not too sure if it can play all of them
[08:03] <devnull_> dlna might work
[08:03] <ikonia> mohi666: there are many, hence why it I'd check what your client needs
[08:03] <devnull_> are you pushing to the googletv box or pulling
[08:04] <mohi666> devnill, I have all the movies stored in my linux server
[08:04] <mohi666> devnill, that's why I'm trying to push them to google tv box
[08:04] <devnull_> so to googletv does it see your computer as like a mass storage or something ?
[08:05] <Xabster> the image i have is ~770 MB - is there a DVD image with additional drivers and stuff?
[08:05] <Xabster> for a live cd
[08:05] <Xabster> /dvd
[08:05] <mohi666> devnill, I haven't installed any file server or DLNA on my linux box, yet. That's why google tv cannot see anything yet
[08:06] <devnull_> so maybe streaming isn't the correct term
[08:07] <saleh> hi
[08:08] <HackinBlack> (saleh) hi
[08:09] <saleh> can you help me ?
[08:09] <HackinBlack> Ask Ur question
[08:09] <devnull_> idk
[08:09] <devnull_> mohi666, plex ??
[08:10] <krofna> I have a problem... I tried to install fglrx drivers, and since they didn't work well, I wanted to revert back to xorg open source drivers, but after removing fglrx I am stuck on login screen (After login it puts me back on login screen), I replaced lightdm with gdm and it (kind of) fixed the issue, but after login I get bunch of system errors (compiz and x crash). WHat should I do?
[08:10] <mohi666> devnill, I forgot to mention that I may try to access the content on my tablet as well.
[08:10] <devnull_> mohi666, plex looks promising and there is an app for ios/android and apps for most tv boxes including googletv
[08:11] <saleh> i have problem with nvidia geforce gt 540 m -
[08:11] <saleh> i a have problem with nvidia geforce gt 540 m -
[08:11] <devnull_> krofna, reinstall fglrx
[08:11] <mohi666> devnill, plex is not in official Arch Linux repository :( I try to avoid those packages
[08:11] <Transhumanist> Same
[08:11] <krofna> devnull_ Why? fglrx seem to perform horribly and buggy
[08:12] <Transhumanist> And when I did install Plex, it was kind of shit. Seemed very proprietary.
[08:12] <devnull_> krofna, because you will get back to your desktop ... then you can revert the correct way
[08:12] <fwp2k> do you choice sailfishos or ubuntu
[08:12] <devnull_> why do you care about arch linux repo
[08:12] <Transhumanist> Plex isn't in Ubuntu's repos either
[08:13] <Transhumanist> you have to add its repo manually
[08:13] <Transhumanist> I don't trust it, its direction, or the authors
[08:13] <mohi666> devnill, Because plex is in Arch User Repository. I have to manually maintain it, if I install it from there
[08:13] <Transhumanist> He's talking about the fact that this is #ubuntu I think :)
[08:13] <devnull_> they have the debs right on their site
[08:14] <mohi666> Transfusion, true, but Linux is Linux.
[08:14] <devnull_> Transhumanist, yes
[08:14] <Transhumanist> agreed - I don't care :)
[08:14] <devnull_> because at first it sounded like you were asking in the wrong channel when you said arch linux
[08:14] <mohi666> I rather install software that is in my OS official repo
[08:14] <devnull_> as would i
[08:15] <devnull_> but if options are limited it is what it is
[08:15] <blueoil22> ciao
[08:15] <Transhumanist> Anyway, it might be worth considering xbmc for an alternative to Plex.
[08:16] <devnull_> whats xbmc
[08:16] <mohi666> Yeah, I'm going to give a try to xbmc
[08:17] <donnie_> I forgot the terminal command to find out what version of linux I'm using
[08:17] <Transhumanist> devnull: xbmc originally stood for "Xbox Media Centre". It has since become completely cross-platform and is fully open source. Now it has little to do with XBox. But it's in the Ubuntu repos and is recommended for media management by a lot of people
[08:17] <Transhumanist> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBMC
[08:18] <devnull_> uname -a
[08:18] <devnull_> Transhumanist, cool
[08:18] <devnull_> im thinking about getting a roku box
[08:18] <donnie_> I need to one for finding out what ubuntu I'm running, 10, 11,... I do forget that
[08:19] <HackinBlack> You can don't need terminal to see what version u have to go too settings
[08:19] <Transhumanist> I've just set up an old laptop as a server (low energy consumption). Set up smb sharing on it, installed XBMC, plugged into TV, turned laptop's monitor off.
[08:19] <Transhumanist> Also installed Deluge so other computers can get the laptop to do torrents via the web client
[08:20] <Tex_Nick> donnie : lsb_release -a
[08:20] <devnull_> nice one tex
[08:23] <techouse> is there a way i could xzip a file over ssh from the server to my local machine without making an xz file first on the server?
[08:23] <biopyte> hi, i'm using gnome classic + compiz on ubuntu 12.04.  is there a way navigating through the desktop wall just by touching the edges with mouse? right now i can switch workspaces only using keys or the workspace switcher in the status bar. edge flipping on mouse contact would be very helpful.
[08:23] <techouse> sort of "pipe" it via xzip to my machine
[08:24] <dulio> biopyte, yea, I like classic too
[08:25] <dulio> biopyte, I like edge flipping
[08:25] <devnull_> biopyte, yes it is in compiz
[08:25] <devnull_> or in a tweaks program
[08:25] <devnull_> do you have compiz settings manager
[08:25] <biopyte> yes,
[08:25] <biopyte> but which setting?
[08:26] <devnull_> biopyte, find desktop wall .. bindings
[08:26] <dulio> devnull_, the feature comes from compiz?
[08:26] <biopyte> ok ... and then?
[08:26] <Tex_Nick> techouse : would something like this work ... tar -cvf files | (cd target_directory ; tar -xpf)
[08:27] <devnull_> desktop wall -> bindings
[08:27] <devnull_> im on 12.10 so i have a crippled compiz config manager
[08:27] <biopyte> devnull, got it ... then change what setting?
[08:27] <devnull_> well go to the edge flipping tab first .. and activate what you want
[08:27] <biopyte> i tried several before already
[08:28] <devnull_> let me reread your question .. hold on
[08:28] <biopyte> devnull, that doesnt make flipping on mouse touch
[08:29] <devnull_> its supposed to
[08:29] <devnull_> try looking for ubuntu tweak or something like that
[08:29] <biopyte> ok, thx
[08:29] <devnull_> try the viewport switcher in compiz
[08:30] <devnull_> viewport switcher -> desktopbased viewport switching
[08:31] <devnull_> i have mine to scroll through desktop but they have the option for using edges of the screen .. you can go left right up and down
[08:31] <HackinBlack> Ubuntu tweak
[08:32] <devnull_> hackinblack knows where its at
[08:33] <devnull_> though in 12.10 there is a lot missing in compiz settings manager
[08:33] <techouse> Tex_Nick, yea if it were local, but dunno if i can put ssh remote location into the pipe
[08:33] <Xabster> "Want to download via BitTorrent links, get DVD images with more language packs, use the text-based alternate installer or find previous versions of Ubuntu?"
[08:33] <Xabster> those DVD sized images are nowhere to be found
[08:34] <dr_willis> Xabster: what release?
[08:34] <nipar> Anyone up for helping me getting USB to work on virtualbox?
[08:34] <Xabster> 12.10
[08:34] <Xabster> desktop
[08:34] <Tex_Nick> devnull : sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[08:34] <dr_willis> 12.10 is only on a dvs
[08:34] <dr_willis> dvd
[08:34] <devnull_> Tex_Nick, thanks
[08:35] <devnull_> i forgot i had done that on my old machine
[08:35] <devnull_> Tex_Nick, much better now :) :)
[08:35] <dr_willis> 12.10 no longer has the alt installer disk either
[08:35] <Tex_Nick> techouse : how about this ... tar -cvf files | ssh remote_host (cd target_directory ; tar -xpf)
[08:36] <blueoil22> ciao
[08:36] <Motoservo> Ugh. I need linux on my Mac for an old scanner I need to run. After four days of trying to install Ubuntu I've mostly got it up save for two last issues. I can only boot through Recovery Mode, when I boot right into Linux I end up with a purple screen with some off video streaks. But after Recovery mode it will make it to the GUI just fine. Any tips on what's going on?
[08:36] <HackinBlack> Huh mac
[08:36] <techouse> virtualbox?
[08:36] <techouse> vmware?
[08:36] <Tex_Nick> devnull : you're welcome
[08:36] <techouse> why not those :P
[08:36] <Motoservo> No virtual box.
[08:37] <Motoservo> just installed it onto an external drive.
[08:37] <devnull_> Motoservo, sounds like the graphics weren't set right in the kernel boot options possibly
[08:37] <techouse> lol
[08:37] <nipar> on 12.10, I have added my username to the usergroup vboxusers - this supposively should enable me to mount USB in virtualbox. However, vbox returns error and persists I should enable my username in the vboxusers group. Anyone got a clue of whats not working as intended?
[08:37] <HackinBlack> Ur first problem is its on a mac
[08:38] <Xabster> dr_willis, but where are the larger images with more languages and stuff?
[08:38] <kion> yes macs suck
[08:38] <kion> unfortunately I have one
[08:38] <Motoservo> Any idea how I can fix that, devnull_?
[08:38] <dr_willis> Xabster:  no idea
[08:38] <elfer> i dont like macs
[08:38] <HackinBlack> U should always build Ur own
[08:38] <Motoservo> Well, I can't disagree more, Kion. Four days trying to install an OS is my idea of suck.
[08:39] <devnull_> you can try adjusting gfxmode in grub.cfg
[08:39] <Eagleman> Where can i find a copy of the default file in /etc/apache2/sites-avaible  ?
[08:39] <Motoservo> I didn't come here for a bunch Mac bashing. But I suppose that's what the Linux community has to offer.
[08:40] <devnull_> get it to just do text instead of framebuffer
[08:40] <dr_willis> recovery mode works fine?
[08:40] <devnull_> yes
[08:40] <Motoservo> Yes, it works.
[08:40] <biopyte> devnull, i changed desktop-based-viewport-switching-mouse-left to <left edge> button1. still no switching on pointer contact.
[08:40] <dr_willis> recovery uses nomodeset i think
[08:41] <dr_willis> and tuens off  the fremabufffer
[08:41] <HackinBlack> I'm sure you can always go to a mac irc and have them help you
[08:41] <dr_willis> turns
[08:41] <devnull_> why would you set it like that
[08:41] <devnull_> button1 requires a click
[08:41] <devnull_> just use the edge
[08:41] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[08:41] <devnull_> thanks dr_willis that is what i was reaching for
[08:41] <Motoservo> How can I set that on the regular boot, dr_willis?
[08:42] <devnull_> Eagleman, get it from the package
[08:42] <nearst> Motoservo, /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[08:42] <Eagleman> devnull_, i always forget i have rsnapshot running, sorry
[08:42] <dr_willis> Motoservo:  if its using grub.. see above
[08:42] <biopyte> devnull, button1 is default, alternatives are button 2 - 20,  no other option besides button x
[08:42] <Motoservo> thanks, nearst
[08:42] <Motoservo> Yes, using grub.
[08:43] <biopyte> devnull, even clicking doesnt work, anyway
[08:44] <devnull_> biopyte, i see ... disable that binding for now
[08:44] <biopyte> devnull, ok
[08:45] <devnull_> ill see if i can find one that just uses edges
[08:45] <biopyte> alright
[08:46] <biopyte> alternativly, i could install brightside, but that conflicts with compiz
[08:46] <devnull_> desktop wall looks like the only other spot
[08:46] <devnull_> ubuntu tweak
[08:47] <HackinBlack> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[08:47] <angryWolf> Hello all
[08:48] <devnull_> dang it .. something grabbed my left edge binding
[08:48] <angryWolf> is there a german ubuntu help channel?
[08:48] <Tex_Nick> !de | angryWolf
[08:48] <nearst> hi angryWolf
[08:49] <HackinBlack> !de
[08:49] <nrosvall> Hi
[08:49] <alimj> angryWolf: Wir vershtehen nur Bahnhof !!!
[08:49] <nearst> 0,0
[08:50] <non-> anyone know a little about bzip2
[08:50] <nearst> why?
[08:50] <biopyte> devnull, what do you mean 'ubuntu tweak'? i cant find such a package.
[08:50] <nrosvall> I'm a long time Windows developer and I'm just about to start developing an application for Ubuntu. Now with this new Ubuntu Phone and coming Ubuntu sdk. Is it still recommened to use gtk and python as mentioned in developer.ubuntu.com? Or should I go for c++ and qt? Or is it just too early to think about the phone?
[08:51] <HackinBlack> Ich liebe dich
[08:51] <OerHeks> non-, ask your real question and find out
[08:51] <nearst> !ubuntu-tweak
[08:51] <dr_willis> biopyte:  find the ubuntu-tweak homepage
[08:51] <devnull_> there is gtk++
[08:51] <biopyte> dr_willis, ok
[08:51] <HackinBlack> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[08:51] <angryWolf> Maybe it will work in english too. I have a problem with "dvdauthor"  <ERR:  no video format specified for VMGM> I Use KDE Plattform-Version 4.8.5 (4.8.5) on a Linux 3.2.0-35-generic x86_64
[08:51] <non-> haha ok thanks <Derheks> So I had a problem updating Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - I'm trying to download the Android SDK bundle
[08:51] <nearst> python rules
[08:52] <non-> I need to replace the bzip2 file in /usr/lib/apt/methods
[08:52] <HackinBlack> Biopyte
[08:52] <nrosvall> python rules yes, but it seems that the phone will support qt5 and qml, nothing said about python
[08:53] <biopyte> got it, its not in the standard repositories
[08:53] <non-> so I downloaded the tar.gz and moved it into the /usr/lib/apt/methods folder (after deleting bzip2) but do not know which file to put back in, there is an entire directory there... <DerHeks>
[08:54] <abrigan> hello. what channel about programming X11 graphical?
[08:54] <blueoil22> ciao
[08:54] <OerHeks> non-, i don't understand why you need to replace bzip2, what manual/howto are you using ?
[08:54]  * dr_willis ducks the !list
 Bzip2 was unexpectedly dying - stopped me from updating
[08:56] <laze1989> As they are using QML/Qt and C++ in the native application devkit for Ubuntu Phone, is Ubuntu moving towards QML/Qt for the desktop, too? I know there is a point about a Ubuntu Devkit for the Desktop for 13.04.
[08:56] <alimj> angryWolf: It has been a long time since last time I used dvdauthor. The error appears to be related to PAL/NTSC setting. I believe that you may find answer to most questions on videohelp.com
[08:57] <nrosvall> laze1989, I was just wondering the same thing
[08:57] <abrigan> Help pls withprogramming graphics. I have many lines. And i have some *.xpm image (line color), that i need to get on the line. With horizontal line it's easy. Read *.xpm image to pixmap, set GC, set tile with this pixmap and draw line with this GC. But when line is rotated - there is problems. I need that pixmap rotated too. I'm rotate pixmap with bresenham algorithm and set gc with new pixmap. And it's no worked. Painted incorrect. How I can do this, wi
[08:57] <abrigan> th standart library (xlib)? Thx.
[08:58] <devnull_> abrigan, wrong channel ...try a channel for the language you are using first
[08:58] <rasanen7> What's a good MTA for forwarding *some* email to my ISPs mail servers, while keeping others local (like the default install is I guess, for reports and stuff)? I'd also like to avoid keeping plain text passwords in a file anywhere
[08:58] <elfer> yeah videohelp is a great site... not sure how much they support linux tho
[08:58] <angryWolf> thank you alimj.  I have read about a file at /.config/Video_Format with a "PAL" in it. used it to be a text file or will i need another extension?
 I guess it's the .c file in the directory, I'll try figure this one out...
[09:00] <alimj> angryWolf: I believe that you have to edit the main XML project file. Some tags should be added there. I am not sue where.
[09:02] <alimj> angryWolf: I am trying to remember
[09:02] <isildur> !ita
[09:02] <angryWolf> very kind... i wait
[09:03] <isildur> what is italian channel?
[09:03] <alimj> angyWolf: Did you try this? "export VIDEO_FORMAT=PAL"
[09:03] <angryWolf> i know the tag should be a "PAL" in my aerea. It is important to find the main xml file.
[09:03] <Eagleman> !it
[09:04] <nearst> !it | isildur
[09:05] <alimj> angryWolf: Or in the main XML file, in the <video> tag, there should be format="pal"
[09:05] <biopyte> HackinBlack, ubuntu-tweak, found it, thx
[09:06] <angryWolf> But where is those xml file?  The answers will be right for sure.
[09:06] <alimj> angryWolf: It has been long long ago, I switched to MP4 for all of my videos. Do not have a DVD anymore. I could not fully remember...
[09:07] <nearst> :(
[09:07] <alimj> angryWolf: This may help a little: http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/doc/dvdauthor.html
[09:08] <elfer> waz wrong nearst
[09:09] <alimj> angryWolf: If you are not comfortable to create XML files, there are always GUIs available
[09:09] <nearst> elfer, nope. just wonder why my eeepc hang at booting.
[09:09] <alimj> angryWolf: Something like: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVDStyler
[09:10] <God> What
[09:14] <Kartagis> !xen
[09:14] <cousteau> just saw someone watching a video of "ubuntu for phones"
[09:14] <thomedy> hey ihave a question.. i made a php app and it is full detail.. js, php, mysql, html, css its all great.. then i tar it... and untar it.. it breaks...
[09:14] <thomedy> what is that
[09:14] <devnull_> hehe ... lost my left edge exposure of dock menu ... fun fun
[09:14] <cousteau> thomedy, where do you untar it?
[09:15] <thomedy> in the original position.. i dont even know why i u ntared it.. i just did and found out
[09:15] <biopyte> devnull, don't blame me ...;-)
[09:15] <thomedy> the error... i have no idea what is going on
[09:17] <Bsims> what is the best way to keep a few files in sync across windows and linux
[09:18] <jrtappers> Bsims, Dropbox
[09:18] <nextus> dropbox))
[09:18] <jrtappers> if you need it over lan then FTP/SCP
[09:18] <dr_willis> !info unison
[09:19] <jrtappers> I use an ssh tunnel for all sorts
[09:19] <Bsims> Hrm... unison looks reasonable <g>
[09:19] <devnull_> biopyte, got it back ... had to restart unity .. unity --replace
[09:19] <jrtappers> What are the best ubuntu games, I know a gamer who is trying ubuntu for the first time.
[09:20] <biopyte> devnull, i see, no unity here, still one plain old gnome classic
[09:20] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  many of the humble bundle games have native linux games
[09:20] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  and it depends on the kind of game
[09:21] <Ben64> also steam now too
[09:21] <Xabster> already? don't you mean soon?
[09:21] <dr_willis> then theres steam.. it had a few lastt i looked. ;)
[09:21] <Xabster> jrtappers: openttd
[09:21] <Ben64> its in open beta
[09:22] <jrtappers> thanks, is there a way to add terminal as a window manager choice?
[09:22] <dr_willis> jrtappers:  alt-ctrl-f1 to get to a console ;) you mean?
[09:23] <dr_willis> you can make custome x session desktops if you want
[09:23] <jrtappers> As in at the greeter screen, to have an option in the list for terminal
[09:23] <dr_willis> or use a tiny window manager like jwm and launch some terms
[09:24] <Ben64> you can open a terminal any time you want
[09:24] <dr_willis> running xterm with no window manager would be annoying
[09:24] <Ben64> yeah
[09:24] <Bsims> jrtappers: it sounds like you are wanting awesome or something like that
[09:25] <jrtappers> What channel is xchat support?
[09:25] <dr_willis> !alis
[09:26] <dr_willis>  i would guess #xchat
[09:27] <God> #xchatsup
[09:28] <f1> a qustion what is this channel
[09:28] <f1> ?
[09:28] <jrtappers> this is #ubuntu
[09:28] <f1> what is #ubuntu
[09:28] <f1> ?
[09:29] <jrtappers> * Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download: http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only), 10.04 LTS, 11.10, 12.04 LTS and 12.10
[09:29] <jrtappers> * Topic for #ubuntu set by IdleOne!~idleone@ubuntu/member/idleone at Sun Oct 28 23:59:21 2012
[09:29] <f1> jrtappers ok channel for what
[09:29] <f1> ?
[09:30] <shp> hi, what's the name of the calculator by default on ubuntu please?
[09:30] <devnull_> f1 for ubuntu
[09:30] <shp> ?
[09:30] <shp> i'm not on ubuntu
[09:30] <shp> i just want the soft name
[09:31] <devnull_> gnome-calculator
[09:31] <jrtappers> shp, the name or the terminal command?
[09:31] <shp> thank you devnull_
[09:31] <f1> lol it is system like window or linux
[09:31] <f1> ?
[09:31] <jrtappers> f1, ubuntu is a linux distro
[09:32] <f1> ok so u are all freaks
[09:32] <f1> hehe
[09:32] <devnull_> f1 linux    ubuntu.com
[09:32] <devnull_> ugg
[09:32] <voxcroix> f1: what is f1?
[09:32] <voxcroix> f1: is that formula 1
[09:32] <jrtappers> f1, this statement is false
[09:33] <Myrtti> move on, he is gone
[09:33] <jrtappers> The troll is slain
[09:33] <voxcroix> lol
[09:34] <jrtappers> how do I get Xchat to make ubuntu notifys when my nickname is mentioned, #Xchat seems quiet
[09:35] <devnull_> you will see the icon wiggle above the launcher normally i believe
[09:35] <Prodego> eh on windows it is under settings -> alerts
[09:35] <Prodego> probably roughly similar for the linux version
[09:36] <jrtappers> can someone plz mention my nickname so I can test the popup
[09:36]  * devnull_ slaps jrtrappers
[09:37] <Prodego> jrtappers: probably would have been better to ask #freenode
[09:37] <Prodego> fwiw
[09:39] <root> hi
[09:40] <Guest7491> okies/..
[09:40] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 12.04 I created a RAID10 on six disks of equal size. Is it possible to replace only two disks of them by larger ones and increase the available space of the the array? Or do I need to split the array into a four disk RAID10 and a two disk RAID1? (Or is there another way?)
[09:40] <devnull_> hello superuser
[09:43] <psychopathic> I love you.
[09:43] <tester> Hello All!!
[09:44] <devnull_> im flattered
[09:44] <psychopathic> Can we make baby's.
[09:44] <devnull_> i am a robot
[09:44] <psychopathic> I am a atom.
[09:45] <cousteau> psychopathic, hello, Tom
[09:45] <Myrtti> keep to Ubuntu sypport, please
[09:45] <cousteau> good idea
[09:45] <Myrtti> support even
[09:46] <tester> How to check the reception of the console video stream from an external source multicasting?
[09:47] <devnull_> what
[09:47] <devnull_> vlt ... idk
[09:48] <ANub> hey............my wifi connection dies if i put on torrent downloading / uploading and does not recover untill i restart my laptop....i'm using 12.04 and machine is DEll latitude E6410
[09:49] <ANub> any ideas..?
[09:49] <devnull_> anub hello ... do you know the specs on the wireless device
[09:49] <jrtappers> ANub, home wifi?
[09:49] <ANub> i think so
[09:49] <ANub> yes its home WiFi
[09:49] <mrec> updating from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10. Gnome shell does not work properly, and as usual the mouse is misconfigured again (no tapping works)
[09:50] <ufk> can anyone recommend me of a good wiki engine? there are way too many out there
[09:50] <mrec> I wonder how much pot they smoke at ubuntu to permanently, always break the mouse after an update since the very first day on
[09:50] <devnull_> mrec, what does not work with gnome shell
[09:50] <mrec> applications don't show up in the taskbar at the bottom
[09:50] <lerous> @ufk how about mediawiki?
[09:50] <jrtappers> Can anyone help with my touchpad, HP Pavilion dm1, no rightclick
[09:50] <devnull_> mrec, unity desktop ?
[09:51] <jrtappers> Rightclick is not recognised as a button
[09:51] <ufk> lerous, i love mediawiki! but i know it for years now. nothing new came up? :)
[09:51] <rino_> If you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial
[09:51] <tester>  I use a VLC to view the multicast. I want to write a script that will check the receiving multicast stream on PC
[09:51] <rino_> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems
[09:51] <rino_> how is it possible?
[09:51] <FloodBot1> rino_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <rino_> does it mean ubuntu won't use xorg on the phone version of the os?
[09:51] <ANub> ive uploaded the output of "sudo lshw -c network" over here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491425/
[09:51] <ufk> lerous, i'm glad that you said mediawiki!! installing it!
[09:51] <devnull_> jrtrappers ... in what
[09:52] <jrtappers> devnull_, ubuntu
[09:52] <mrec> devnull_: gnome3
[09:52] <mrec> I'd not use unity
[09:52] <jrtappers> *, I have to make two finger clicking rightclick to make it usable
[09:52] <jrtappers> rino_, same kernel
[09:53] <devnull_> mrec ... does the bottom panel do anything
[09:53] <rino_> jrtappers: same kernel, but oem needs different userland drivers if ubuntu is using xorg
[09:53] <ANub> hey............my wifi connection dies if i put on torrent downloading / uploading and does not recover untill i restart my laptop....i'm using 12.04 and machine is DEll latitude E6410
[09:53] <ANub> ive uploaded the output of "sudo lshw -c network" over here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491425/
[09:53] <nextblove> hello am upset regarding how to block user to access flash drive when the logging into ubuntu server.
[09:53] <jrtappers> rino_, It encourages oems to join, and that is good
[09:54] <vlt> devnull_: I think I’ll try before by creating a RAID of several virtual block devices and see … :-)
[09:54] <mrec> devnull_: only the desktop selection works
[09:54] <lerous> ufk, :) nothing new in wiki zone I heard for a while :8
[09:54] <mrec> that is in the bottom panel
[09:54] <devnull_> vlt ... read up on it
[09:54] <devnull_> vlt ... i am not sure how raid works completely so i am not sure if you can just increase your array that way
[09:55] <jrtappers> Can anyone help with my touchpad, HP Pavilion dm1, no rightclick, mouse settings doesn't see the button
[09:55] <devnull_> mrec can you right click on the bottom menu ?
[09:55] <mrec> devnull_: nope
[09:55] <devnull_> jrtappers, working on it
[09:55] <devnull_> mrec can you right click on the desktop switcher ?
[09:56] <lerous> ufk, I google it found a wiki engine named MoinMoin based on python, looks good
[09:56] <mrec> devnull_: yes
[09:56] <Xabster> Hi, I booted into the live CD usb and it appears everything works as it should except my GFX card - can I load drivers for my card while using the live CD to test if it will work after install_
[09:57] <jrtappers> Xabster, it should work, but live CD changes are losst on reboot
[09:57] <jrtappers> Xabster, s anything that needs a reboot wont wor
[09:58] <devnull_> mrec .. just trying to see if you can find a spot to add to that panel and add the taskbar area
[09:58] <Xabster> jrtappers: right, got an idea how i can install those drivers_ last time i used ubuntu there was a @proprietary driver dialog that fixed it for me
[09:58] <jrtappers> Xabster, additional drivers
[09:58] <dr_willis> Xabster: whats yourvideo chipset
[09:58] <Xabster> it\s a HD 6870
[09:59] <Xabster> jrtappers: no such menu in settings
[09:59] <jrtappers> Xabster, search "add" in the launcher, it will come up
[09:59] <devnull_> radon ?
[09:59] <dr_willis> you could do a full install to a flash as a test Xabster
[09:59] <devnull_> radion
[10:00] <Xabster> radeon
[10:00] <Xabster> yes
[10:00] <devnull_> radeon
[10:00] <nextblove> hello am upset regarding how to block user to access flash drive when the logging into ubuntu server.
[10:00] <Xabster> Radeon HD 6870
[10:00] <Xabster> but i dont see an @additional driver@ menu anywhere
[10:00] <devnull_> what doesn't work at the moment with it ?
[10:01] <Xabster> dash doesnt find any matches on driver, and its not in settings
[10:01] <dr_willis> nextblove:  we arer a support channel  not a complaint channel
[10:01] <jrtappers> Xabster, search "add" in dash
[10:01] <devnull_> xabster ... software sources
[10:01] <Xabster> i can hear my GFX cards fans are spinning mad cause its rendering 3D with the 2D portion
[10:01] <mrec> devnull_: that's it thanks
[10:01] <jrtappers> Xabster, Additional Drivers should come up
[10:02] <mrec> alt-right mouse key added it
[10:02] <mrec> now only the desktop is missing ^^
[10:02] <devnull_> mrec, what is missing from the desktop
[10:02] <mrec> everything cannot even create new icons
[10:02] <nextblove> dr_willis i dont mind
[10:03] <devnull_> mrec .... ps ax | grep nautilus
[10:03] <h1_> re.
[10:03] <dr_willis> re?
[10:03] <devnull_> see if it is running
[10:03] <jrtappers> Xabster, how is it now?
[10:04] <mrec> devnull_: not running, but also if I start it it won't make the background icons show up
[10:04] <h1_> werwerwer
[10:05] <jrtappers> devnull_, What happening RE: touchpad?
[10:05] <devnull_> jrtappers, looking
[10:08] <devnull_> jrtappers, does it have seperate buttons for left and right click or is it just touch areas on the pad ?
[10:08] <jrtappers> Sepperate buttons, but ubuntu only recognises one
[10:08] <L0ki> buntu-uk
[10:09] <jrtappers> who is furthest from GB?
[10:10] <devnull_> jrtappers, was this fresh install ?
[10:11] <SoWhat> Hi! Is the same chanel for UbuntuPhone?
[10:11] <aeon-ltd> SoWhat: no
[10:11] <aeon-ltd> SoWhat: i doubt support is very large for something announnced today
[10:11] <devnull_> jrtappers, can you click the bottom right corner of the touchpad and get a right click ?
[10:12] <jrtappers> devnull_, No, it thinks I leftclicked
[10:12] <devnull_> but the two touch method works ?
[10:12] <SoWhat> aeon-ltd: there must be some support
[10:12] <jrtappers> yes, I set two touch as rightclick
[10:13] <jrtappers> The mouse settings only sees one button
[10:14] <Myrtti> SoWhat: are you running it already and need support? if not, then begin at #ubuntu-discuss
[10:14] <NeoColossus> Hello all
[10:14] <SoWhat> Myrtti: thanks!
[10:15] <zhaozhou> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my relatively new Thinkpad laptop, but Ubiquity is giving me some troubles. I'm stracing the application, but I can't make much sense out of the output. It tries to read from some memory location giving 'Resource temporarily unavailable'.
[10:15] <devnull_> xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | grep -i capabilities
[10:15] <zhaozhou> Could I get any help in solving this?
[10:15] <zhaozhou> Should I, perhaps, try the alternative installation CD?
[10:16] <jrtappers> devnull_, Synaptics Capabilities (300):   1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1
[10:16] <root_> hello
[10:17] <NeoColossus> How do you store the output of grep search to a variable when grep searches for a pattern (stored in a variable) against a file (also stored in a variable)? Ex: var1=`grep -iq "$var2" "$var3"`
[10:17] <zhaozhou> root_, You should probably try to not be root on IRC.
[10:17] <NeoColossus> When I try to echo $var1 back it shows empty
[10:18] <root_> my pictury
[10:18] <root_> <IP_ADDRESS>:11841
[10:18] <root_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:11841
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> NeoColossus  better ask in #bash
[10:19] <root_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/IZleol
[10:19] <NeoColossus> Ok
[10:19] <root_> ok
[10:19] <blim_> how do I go about setting the QoT on my client?
[10:19] <root_> yes
[10:19] <root_> pictury :  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/IZleol
[10:19] <rohdef> where can I find an up to date list of wifi cards supported?
[10:19] <ctrlz> Hi, how can i rotate the webcam in skype? I see it upside down. Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd here
[10:20] <rohdef> I'm looking at a PCI-E card with the Atheros AR9287 chipset
[10:20] <rohdef> TP-Link
[10:20] <rohdef>
[10:20] <rohdef> TP-Link TL-WN881ND to be exact
[10:20] <rohdef> opps, sorry for the newlines, didn't see them :/
[10:20] <zhaozhou> root_, A Java applet, huh? No way.
[10:21] <blami> NeoColossus: you can run it in subshell
[10:21] <blim_> Does anyone know a guide on how to set the ToS (type of service) on a client os?
[10:21] <root_> my sister img : http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/IZleol
[10:21] <root_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/IZleol
[10:22] <roadfish> got an unformatted 3TB segate in a Bytecc enclosure. both "fdisk -l" and palimpsest show _two_ devices. /dev/sdg is 2.2GB and /dev/sdh is 0.8GB. any idea why I'm not just getting 3.0GB on /dev/sdg?
[10:22] <root_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/IZleol
[10:22] <root_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/IZleol
[10:22] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[10:22] <blami> root_: could you stop this please?
[10:22] <llutz> !ops | root_  linkspam
[10:22] <root_> hahah
[10:23] <jrtappers> llutz, what does that do?
[10:23] <rohdef> roadfish, not sure that fdisk shows a drive without a partition table
[10:23] <barbadillo> hi all
[10:23] <barbadillo> I have a strange problem
[10:23] <llutz> jrtappers: just look at ubottus reply
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !details|barbadillo: state the issue
[10:23] <barbadillo> when I hit ctrl+F I get an xterm window
[10:23] <elky> llutz, did you click it? is it "safe" to check?
[10:23] <llutz> elky: why should i
[10:23] <barbadillo> in any application in any desxktop environment
[10:24] <elky> llutz, you don't need to, but i was wondering if you did, is all
[10:24] <barbadillo> it is annoying
[10:24] <jrtappers> llutz, does it give someone temporary permission to ban someone?
[10:24] <roadfish> rohdef:yeah, it does ... but you're sort-of-right because "fisk -l" says "Disk /dev/sdh doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[10:24] <elky> jrtappers, no, it gets our attention
[10:24] <barbadillo> ctrl+F is for searching stuff!!!
[10:24] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, but that's complete computers :/
[10:24] <jrtappers> elky, thanks, just learning IRC
[10:24] <SoWhat> #ubuntu-discuss seems dead. Maybe some of you know if UbuntuPhone is able to use A-GPS ?
[10:24] <llutz> jrtappers: it just gets OPs attenttion on the nick mentioned
[10:24] <barbadillo> I have to use the mouse and the menu
[10:25] <Helperhaps> fhnfg
[10:25] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : sorry ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[10:25] <elky> jrtappers, it's not a normal irc feature, it's a special irc user we set up to respond to triggers
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-mobile|sowhat
[10:25] <barbadillo> thanks firefox for the slash, but the other applications they don't have the "/"
[10:25] <elky> jrtappers, and remember, it's for emergencies only :)
[10:25] <blami> Tex_Nick: wasn't he looking for wifi adapter?
[10:25] <llutz> elky:  a line as" <root_> my sister img : http://....   "   is sign for spam enough to me :) i hope you don't get this as "ops-misuse"
[10:25] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, and now for the wifi-cards :p
[10:26] <Helperhaps> what is that
[10:26] <devnull_> jrtappers, i missed before ... upgrade or fresh install and when
[10:26] <elky> llutz, sometimes it's nice to be able to tell providers if it's stuff that's... erm... illegal.
[10:26] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : jeeze i need to go to bed ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:27] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, I know the feeling :)
[10:27] <elky> turns out it needs plugins in firefox, so it's probably something pretty stupid ;)
[10:27] <llutz> elky: true but at least in DE its bit problematic with some sort of stuff (browser cache etc.) you know. so i tend not to click anywere
[10:27] <llutz> anywhere
[10:27] <blami> elky: he hosts java applet that tries to employ some sort of worm into browser cache using java zero day security issue
[10:28] <jrtappers> devnull_, wubi fresh install a while ago, 12.04.1
[10:28] <rohdef> Tex_Nick, thanks :)
[10:28] <jrtappers> root_ was probably using metasploit remove exploit
[10:28] <devnull_> jrtappers, so the right click just stopped working ?
[10:28] <jrtappers> devnull_, never worked
[10:28] <Tex_Nick> rohdef : after ten try's i finally got ya a link ;)
[10:28] <devnull_> it works in windows ?
[10:29] <elky> anyway, lets go back to as we were ;)
[10:29] <jrtappers> yh
[10:29] <jrtappers> devnull_, yh
[10:30] <SoWhat> cfhowlett: thanks!
[10:31] <cfhowlett> SoWhat: sorry it's not active channel.
[10:31] <jrtappers> devnull_, It was factory windows 7 so there may be drivers preinstalled
[10:31] <roadfish> here's something weird: palimpsest says that my 3TB USB enclosure is a "multipath device".
[10:31] <devnull_> mrec ... see if you can get tweak tool or ubuntu tweak and see if there is an option for show desktop icons
[10:32] <devnull_> jrtappers, drivers or not ... just want to make sure it isn't an actual hardware problem
[10:32] <jrtappers> devnull_, ok, its not hardware
[10:34] <jrtappers> How do I get a signal type from a USB 3G modem, i.e. EDGE/GPRS/HSPDA
[10:37] <Vivekananda> Hello Everyone. Am on ubuntu lucid on a comcast network. Can someone tell me how to check the TCP or UDP timeouts that is provided by my ISP?
[10:39] <devnull_> jrtappers, might need to map that button
[10:39] <jrtappers> devnull_, how?
[10:40] <zhaozhou> Vivekananda, ISPs provide TCP/UDP timeout values?
[10:40] <jrtappers> devnull_, The trackpad does continue over the buttons, so if I could map an area to rightclick that would work nicely
[10:41] <devnull_> oh ... so they aren't seperated physical buttons ?
[10:41] <blim_> Does anyone know a guide on how to set the ToS (type of service) on a client os?
[10:41] <zhaozhou> Visigoth, is /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time what you are looking for?
[10:43] <devnull_> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0" ... just need to find the file to add it to
[10:43] <kristu> hi
[10:43] <Scanjet0> hello?
[10:43] <kristu> hello
[10:43] <jrtappers> devnull_, see the computer on the right http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/dm1-old-vs-new-touchpad.jpg
[10:43] <Scanjet0> this actually works, awesome
[10:43] <kristu> hello scanjet
[10:43] <jrtappers> The wonder of google images
[10:43] <cfhowlett> blim_: the folks at #ubuntu-server might know
[10:44] <izx> apt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF
[10:44] <devnull_> yea its just one big area ... that was what i was asking before .... just need to map those buttons
[10:44] <Scanjet0> You guys must know a lot about linux. Im still noobish.
[10:44] <Scanjet0> Could I ask some questions :P
[10:44] <jrtappers> We are all still learnind
[10:44] <jrtappers> *learning
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !ask|Scanjet0:
[10:44] <kristu> yes sk
[10:44] <kristu> ask
[10:44] <blim_> cfhowleft: thanks
[10:45] <Scanjet0> Awesome, Thanks!
[10:46] <Scanjet0> Uhm, Im doing a study on hacking, hence I picked linux to do my OS with. What would you say is the best method of detecting hackings in Linux?
[10:46] <Scanjet0> (as a kind of anti-measure, knowledge is power:P)
[10:46] <aeon-ltd> Scanjet0: your question didn't make sense
[10:46] <zhaozhou> Scanjet0, What type of 'hacking' are you looking for?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> Scanjet0  how legal is that?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Scanjet0: penetration testing is a whole topic that is more suited to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:46] <devnull_> jrtappers, try coping /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[10:46] <jrtappers> Scanjet0, Xarp is useful for detecting arp cache poisoning
[10:46] <Scanjet0> its legal, I have consent (im hacking myself)
[10:47] <Scanjet0> Xarp, I will google that right away!
[10:48] <jrtappers> devnull_,  then?
[10:50] <jrtappers> devnull_, what next?
[10:50] <devnull_> logout and back in
[10:50] <jrtappers> ok, il try
[10:50] <ctrlz> ctrl
[10:52] <jrtappers> devnull_, still rightclick makes a leftclick
[10:52] <izx> apt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF
[10:54] <devnull_> jrtappers, that file was placed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ folder
[10:54] <devnull_> see if this command returns anything synclient -l | grep -i ButtonArea
[10:56] <devnull_> jrtappers, rename the file 10- instead of 50- at the beginning
[10:58] <Vivekananda> zhaozhou:I am using Voip overinternet and I read that ISPs cut the connections after a certain inactivity time. I might have understood this all wrong guide me to enlightenment
[10:59] <jrtappers> devnull_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491523/
[11:01] <devnull_> modify that file as so   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491529/
[11:01] <zhaozhou> Vivekananda, All right... might be true, I just haven't heard of such a thing.
[11:02] <kelvinella> When you select any of the menus in Nautilus they only display a very small blank rectangle under the menu item and do not open up into a sub-menu display.  how to fix?
[11:02] <devnull_> kelvinella, does this happen all the time or new problem
[11:03] <kelvinella> i never click the menu before until now
[11:03] <kelvinella> because i want to enable the status bar
[11:03] <devnull_> do other programs have functioning menus
[11:03] <kelvinella> other programs have no problem
[11:04] <Vivekananda> zhaozhou: I dont know if this is a setting provided by my router or ubuntu itself on my computer or something the ISP provides. I just know that my voip reregister time when set to 100 or 120 secs works and does not drop calls but when set to higher like 900(as is advised for TCP as it is supposed to have a higher timeout value???) causes calls to drop. Is this something I set in ubuntu or ask my ISP(comcast ) for ?
[11:05] <jrtappers> devnull_, that file currently reads http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491532/
[11:05] <jrtappers> before changes
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  try ##networking
[11:06] <Vivekananda> ok am going there :)
[11:06] <jabba_> hello
[11:06] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: is there something called #ubuntu networking
[11:06] <cfhowlett> jabba_: greetings.  FYI: Han shot first.  Poor Greedo.
[11:06] <devnull_> jrtappers, add this to that file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491534/
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda: there's #ubuntu-server ?
[11:07] <jrtappers> at the end?
[11:07] <devnull_> yea
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  type /msg alis list *network*
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  that is, with the asterisks
[11:08] <jabba_> i just setup a crypted partition (SR for a Xen-Server). and added it to the /etc/crypttab with the option "timeout=30". sadly the option seems to be ignored (as boot-process keeps going on) and i am not able to enter the passphrase at boot. anyone an idea what's wrong?
[11:09] <jrtappers> devnull_, thanks that worked perfectly
[11:09] <devnull_> mrec, how goes it
[11:09] <Vivekananda> I am using Voip overinternet and I read that ISPs cut the connections after a certain inactivity time. I might have understood this all wrong guide me to enlightenment. I dont know if this is a setting provided by my router or ubuntu itself on my computer or something the ISP provides. I just know that my voip reregister time when set to 100 or 120 secs works and does not drop calls but when set to higher like 900(as is advise
[11:09] <Vivekananda> d for TCP as it is supposed to have a higher timeout value???) causes calls to drop. Is this something I set in ubuntu or ask my ISP(comcast ) for ?
[11:09] <Vivekananda> sorry
[11:09] <Vivekananda> everyone
[11:09] <FloodBot1> Vivekananda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <jrtappers> one OS to rule them all, one OS to find them
[11:09] <devnull_> jrtappers, glad i it works ... might want to test out all the capabilities and make sure scrolling still works .... etc
[11:09] <kelvinella> so anyone have problem with nautilus menu?
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  which ubuntu version? what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[11:10] <devnull_> kelvinella, unity ?
[11:10] <jrtappers> devnull_, all good
[11:10] <kelvinella> ubuntu 12.04.1
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> kelvinella  is it Unity or some other DE?
[11:11] <devnull_> jrtappers, if you need to ever modify those regions  .. man 4 synaptic ... i believe
[11:11] <kelvinella> unity
[11:11] <devnull_> kelvinella, have you restarted unity yet ?
[11:12] <devnull_> had that type of issue with the gimp on my old laptop from time to time
[11:12] <kelvinella> what do u mean restart?
[11:12] <kelvinella> i am watching movie and webcaming i cant restart maybe later
[11:12] <devnull_> no not the whole computer ... just the window manager
[11:13] <devnull_> unity --replace
[11:14] <jabba_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/468208
[11:14] <jabba_> this bug is .... _old_
[11:14] <jrtappers> How do I find the serial port of a usb 3g modem for at commands
[11:14] <kelvinella> i restart leter
[11:16] <izx> apt-cacher-ng throwing error suddenly, can anyone help me pls.. Here is the output >> http://pastebin.com/ptTEPxmF
[11:16] <kelvinella> i will run that unity --replace command later because i am downloading a movie it doesnt support resume
[11:16] <kelvinella> i dont wanna breaks the download
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  is that ubuntu server?
[11:17] <jabba_> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:17] <jabba_> 12.04
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  then better ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:17] <jabba_> ok
[11:18] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust jabba_ sadly, #ubuntu-server is silent ...
[11:18] <absurdum_22_34> I used to have 15 desktops, and used the compiz wallpaper plugin to load a different wallpaper for each desktop.  That worked fine until I added more desktops and more wallpapers.  Each new wallpaper I add just shows up as a black screen.  Any ideas?
[11:20] <jabba_> cfhowlett: pretty... :(
[11:21] <cfhowlett> jabba_: sorry, mate.  wish I could help.  ##networking would seem to be your best bet ...
[11:21] <varikonniemi> i have a problem with multimonitor setup.. i have my secondary screen on the left side. even if i set in xserver setting my other screen to be the primary monitor, applications launch in the left screen'
[11:21] <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[11:21] <jrtappers> How do I get 3G modem signal with an AT command
[11:21] <LudwigVonMises> is there a channel for ubuntu phone?
[11:22] <varikonniemi> i must put my primary monitor logically on the left side to make it work, and then it is silly to go to the right edge of screen to acces monitor thats physically on left
[11:22] <LudwigVonMises> I am really excited for that
[11:22] <varikonniemi> any solutions to this?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> LudwigVonMises: none that I could find.  #ubuntu-mobile is shuttered...
[11:23] <atlef> varikonniemi, i think it is possible to fix this with compis-settings-manager, but not entirely sure
[11:23] <savio> is ubuntu-mobile available for sale
[11:23] <savio> worldwide?
[11:23] <LudwigVonMises> cfhowlett: Nevermind, ubuntu-phone
[11:24] <absurdum_22_34> I used to have 15 desktops, and used the compiz wallpaper plugin to load a different wallpaper for each desktop.  That worked fine until I added more desktops and more wallpapers.  Each new wallpaper I add just shows up as a black screen.  Any ideas?
[11:24] <varikonniemi> atlef, that program is scary
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> LudwigVonMises  some 50 people in #ubuntu-phone
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-phone savio
[11:24] <cfhowlett> savio: ask in #ubuntu-phone
[11:24] <atlef> varikonniemi, i know, to many settings
[11:24] <CookieM> it should be on sale at the end of this year
[11:25] <varikonniemi> its fun to fiddle around with, but not on a everyday computer
[11:25] <savio> cfhowlett, i just ask to see if anyone knows
[11:25] <varikonniemi> must be just a playbox/vm
[11:25] <LudwigVonMises> MonkeyDust: considering no ##, Im assuming its the legit channel
[11:25] <Xabster> i got help about 1.5 hours ago, about installing additional drivers (for my gfx card while booted up on a live cd - just to test that everything works) but i had to leave and didnt see the answer fully
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> LudwigVonMises  yes, it says: "If nobody is here use  http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/mobile"
[11:26] <Xabster> does anyone have a log maybe or know how i can install it? i cant find the additional drivers dialog/menu
[11:26] <jrtappers> Xabster, whats the status?
[11:26] <Xabster> i had a guest
[11:26] <Xabster> status is no progress
[11:26] <jrtappers> Xabster, go to dash, and search for "Add", you shoudl see additional drivers
[11:26] <Xabster> its not there, i tried
[11:26] <LudwigVonMises> MonkeyDust: Can't ubuntu mobile be refferring to the android app?
[11:27] <jrtappers> ok, the other way
[11:27] <atlef> Xabster, i think they suggested you install to a usb stick, not creating a "live USB" to test it out
[11:28] <Xabster> hmm, any idea of how much space is needed for that? the usb stick is 3.8 gb total
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> LudwigVonMises  yeah, but easiest would be to go and ask in #ubuntu-phone
[11:28] <Xabster> and some is used for the live cd boot stuff - i have no cd rom
[11:28] <jrtappers> Xabster, the easiest way to try ubuntu not on a live cd/usb is wubi
[11:28] <Xabster> wubi?
[11:28] <pablo__> olbap
[11:28] <cfhowlett> jrtappers: or virtualbox
[11:29] <Xabster> i did try virtualbox, but that doesnt answer the question of drivers
[11:29] <Xabster> since its vbox generic drivers
[11:29] <Xabster> i need to test that my real gfx driver actually works
[11:29] <atlef> cfhowlett, not if he needs to test if the driver for his gfx works, then vbox wont helpp
[11:29] <atlef> *help
[11:29] <jrtappers> thats why I said wub
[11:29] <jrtappers> Xabster, go to terminal
[11:30] <jrtappers> and type "jockey-gtk"
[11:30] <blim> how do i open the blacklist.conf and also how do I generate a list of audio interface so I can add to the blacklist my hdmi audio
[11:30] <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[11:30] <jrtappers> Xabster, did that work, you should see additional drivers
[11:31] <Xabster> should I install it, or just test if its installed? cause its not
[11:31] <Xabster> sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk right_
[11:31] <blim> I can open the blacklist file just need a command to list my audio interface names
[11:32] <Xabster> : Unable to locate package jockey-gtk
[11:32] <tonycoos> who
[11:32] <atlef> blim, try lspci in a terminal
[11:34] <jrtappers> Xabster, it should be already installed
[11:35] <wachpwnski> im getting some nasty kernel errors for my drive
[11:36] <Porkepix>  Hi. I come here to ask some informations about erratic behavior with a touchpad. My sister just received 1 week ago a dell laptop shipped with ubuntu pre-installed (vostro 3360). The problem is that the touchpad is only saw as generic PS/2 mouse and that it cause lot of problems. I eventually found a driver made via reverse engineering, but compilation fail and I can't install it. If someone can help about this, please ?
[11:36] <blim> that list my graphics card as a hole and not the hdmi sound, maybe I cant disable it this way
[11:37] <nibbler_> Porkepix: can you nopaste the output of the attempted build of the driver? what is the name of the driver?
[11:37] <atlef> blim, try lspci -v
[11:38] <Porkepix> nibbler_ : 1s, I'll directly connect to irc the right laptop, it'll be easier
[11:38] <theos> hey all! i plugged in my usb hdd and now i have no permissions on internal hdd partitions and files. what can be the solution?
[11:38] <blim> atlef: can i post the output of just the audio divice so you can see me what name I need to add to black list?
[11:39] <atlef> !pastebin | blim
[11:39] <atlef> though not sure i can help
[11:40] <theos> help!
[11:40] <Xabster> it told me though, that i could install it like that
[11:40] <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[11:40] <dr_willis> theos:  what FS is teh drive?
[11:40] <atlef> anyone else being disconnected from irc randomly?
[11:41] <theos> dr_willis fat32. i was trying to back up the data and format it to ext4 :/ but i dont have permissions now
[11:41] <Porkepix2> So, nibbler_, the driver is this one : http://www.dahetral.com/public-download
[11:41] <dr_willis> theos:  access it as root perhaps. or remount it with difernt options
[11:41] <rgms> &wc
[11:42] <nibbler_> theos: mount options to make it user owned, chown and chmod
[11:42] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: and here is the terminal log : http://privatepaste.com/5426f647d5
[11:42] <dr_willis> you normally dont chown/chmod ntf/vfat
[11:42] <jrtappers> Xabster, try it, it should be already installed
[11:42] <theos> nibbler_ the fstab file has the same options as before. i remounted both drives but no help
[11:43] <dr_willis> theos:  what does mount say about its options
[11:43] <theos> dr_willis how to check those?
[11:43] <dr_willis> use the mount command
[11:44] <theos> dr_willis rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000
[11:44] <ctrlz> Hi, how can i rotate the webcam in skype? I see it upside down. Lubuntu 12.10 x64 on asus u36sd here
[11:44] <dr_willis> theos:  now see what your users UID is.
[11:44] <theos> dr_willis 1000?
[11:44] <dr_willis> you sure?
[11:45] <theos> dr_willis how to check uid?
[11:45] <dr_willis>  echo $UID
[11:45] <Xabster> jrtappers: when i try it says not installed and that i can get it with sudo apt-get install etc
[11:45] <theos> dr_willis thanks. yes it is 1000
[11:45] <Xabster> copy/pasting the suggest command in terminal says not found
[11:46] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I can change $LANG in terminal to have full english messages, but differences are really small
[11:46] <dr_willis> theos:  can you access it via the terminal? cd to its mountmoint and do a ls -l, see who owns what files
[11:46] <blim> atlef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491588/plain/
[11:46] <BWMerlin> is there a way I can add source forge as a repository so I can apt-get projects straight from there?
[11:47] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i'm fine with the french(?) output... which package did you download?
[11:47] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: did you honour the first message this script is giving you? dkms_install_cp/symlink?
[11:47] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: the last, this one : http://www.dahetral.com/public-download/psmouse-alps-dst-1.2.tbz/view
[11:47] <theos> dr_willis all files are like this -> -rwxr-xr-x  1 myuser myuser
[11:47] <atlef> blim, i would think that 05:00.1 is the hw id of the hdmi, but not sure
[11:48] <theos> dr_willis maybe its not recognizing me as the user?
[11:48] <dr_willis> theos:  so you cant read or write there or what?
[11:49] <blim> atlef: would I need to add just [Radeon HD 6900 Series] to blacklist?
[11:49] <nibbler_> Porkepix2?
[11:49] <dr_willis> theos:  your user name is not 'myuser' ?
[11:49] <kylescottmcgill> Anyone had Automount setup with udev on ubuntu, or do they use something else like gfvs? (I dont have Nautalis, or thunar etc, i use ranger)
[11:49] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: the first one fail, the 2nd give nothing
[11:49] <theos> dr_willis i cant copy, paste etc. yes my user name is myuser
[11:49] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: nothing sounds good, did you do that before or after the paste you gave me? what error are you getting, nopaste pls
[11:50] <dr_willis> theos:  try with the shell. Not nautilus perhaps.. can you cd to where they are at and do a 'touch testfile' ?
[11:50] <atlef> blim, could you post complete output of lspci -v
[11:51] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I haven't done this before. I did this now and rerun the command after. So install_cp don't find a folder, and install_symlink change nothing. After this, "dkms_build_alps" faile the same way
[11:51] <theos> dr_willis i did. no output.
[11:52] <dr_willis> theos:  no error message? do a ls -l . see if  it worked
[11:52] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: full output of the _cp pls
[11:52] <kylescottmcgill> no one have any recomendations
[11:53] <kylescottmcgill> argh s[elling tonight is shocking
[11:53] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: http://privatepaste.com/53d5c860eb
[11:53] <theos> dr_willis yes the timestamp changed. no error on touch
[11:53] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: for sure, this dir doesn't exist
[11:54] <blim> atlef: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491619/plain/
[11:54] <dr_willis> theos:  try editing a test file , see if you can make it. and sav3 changes.. Its almost sounding like its just nautilus having issues. Not the actual filesystem
[11:54] <theos> dr_willis i killed nautilus and now everything is fine. thanks
[11:54] <dr_willis> theos:  ;P
[11:54] <theos> dr_willis :D
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:54] <theos> but why would plugging in usb hdd mess up nautilus? o.0
[11:55] <cronus> Porkepix2
[11:55] <Porkepix2> cronus: yes ?
[11:55] <cronus> Porkepix2, sorry wrong click...
[11:55] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: well, it looks like the copy has already takin place, as you are no in /usr/src/psmouse-alps-dst-1.2
[11:55] <TvL2386> Hi guys, an ebtables question if you don't mind: I expected "ebtables -I OUTPUT -o eth0 -j DROP" to drop all ethernet frames that would leave through eth0... But when I ping this machine, it responds.... Which is what I did not expect
[11:56] <atlef> blim, this is the one you want to blacklist: snd-hda-intel
[11:57] <blim> thanks very much, I'll save what I've done for next time
[11:57] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: for my part, I guess all files are in place, and compilation fail for strange reason on a .o file :/
[11:57] <atlef> blim, np. hope it works
[11:58] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: does /var/lib/dkms/psmouse/alps-dst-1.2/build/make.log have any further info?
[12:00] <DoingMyHeadIn>  <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[12:00] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: that's part of what I just show you before : http://privatepaste.com/d5e21726ac
[12:00] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Hello, ¿who installed Dropbox in Ubuntustudio 11.04? i have a little problem, thank`s
[12:02] <nibbler_> Porkepix2:  BTN_TOOL_QUINTTAP was suggest 22. august 2011.... so my first guess is, your kernel is too old for that
[12:03] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: kernel 3.0, pre-installed ubuntu 11.10
[12:04] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i noteiced the 3.0 before - but still thought this makro might be a driver thing and not inherited from the kernel - but thats your problem. its about 4-finger-scroll-gestures
[12:04] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: so either update to a more recent ubuntu, or backport the code? ;-)
[12:04] <wachpwnski> How do I get the /dev/sdx of something liek this: disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD2002FAEX-007BA0_WD-WMAWP0422736
[12:04] <wachpwnski> ?
[12:04] <nibbler_> wachpwnski: sudo blkid
[12:05] <thecpaptain> Sup guys =). Anyone here able to help me with internet ID in Sweden (Nordea) on Ubuntu ?
[12:05] <wachpwnski> nibbler_:  that is not giving me anything useful
[12:05] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I can try to install a 12.04 or 12.10....but idk if it'll really help :/ Just want that my touchpad is recognized as....
[12:05] <wachpwnski> nibbler_:  unless that is the has?
[12:05] <vlt> wachpwnski: /dev/disk/by-id/* is usually a symlink to the actual device. `ls -l` should tell you.
[12:05] <wachpwnski> hash*
[12:06] <[Saint]> Is anyone able to give me any clues on why All Settings/Details/Graphics lists my graphics driver as "Unknown"? An how to find out what driver I'm actually using?
[12:06] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/ident?v=3.0;i=BTN_TOOL_QUINTTAP - if you click a more recent kernel, it suddenly is defined - this driver won't build with kernel 3.0, end of story
[12:07] <atlef> [Saint], try lspci -v in a terminal and look for it there
[12:07] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: Ok. So I'll check with more recent ubuntu or other linux. Beggining with 3.1 it's ok ?
[12:07] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i have no clue if this driver will help you in the end at all, but i do know that it wont build in unpatched 3.0 - ofc you could "just" patch it in, but depending on your skill level installing ubuntu 12.10 might be the easiest approach
[12:07] <thecpaptain> Internet-ID Sweden on Ubuntu. Gotten most things going, any ideas from anyone?
[12:08] <thecpaptain> or can you direct me to a Swedish chat-room maybe ?
[12:08] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: nope, was introduced in kernel 3.2
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> !se
[12:08] <thecpaptain> thanks
[12:08] <nibbler_> thecpaptain: what is internet id?
[12:08] <[Saint]> atlef: the card is definitely being detectyed, and it is in use, but I don't know what driver it is using :-S
[12:08] <[Saint]> It's an /old/ card, but it is supported (apparently).
[12:09] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: ok, thanks. I'll test this. In all cases, is there a way to complain at canonical, which have given a certification for ubuntu on a laptop.....which have an unrecognized touchpad ?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Porkepix2  or report a bug at launchpad
[12:10] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: i dont know - maybe cononical certified it, as it is good suppored in recent ubuntu, but then dell shipped it with outdated ubuntu? i don't know - you want 12.10 anyway! :)
[12:10] <atlef> [Saint], did you try lspci -v in a terminal and look for it there
[12:10] <ashleyludlow> base could be installed with generic drivers for lan use, its been proven even in "unsupported" systems it works for lan..
[12:11] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: the laptop was shipped with a pre-installed ubuntu (11.10). I guess this is the minimum to have a fully functionnal system :/
[12:12] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: well - then again, did you install all the updates offered? 12.4/10 should have been offered..
[12:12] <[Saint]> atlef: yes, sorry, I wasn't very verbose there...it's some weird shit: "Kernel driver in use: unknown
[12:12] <[Saint]> 	Kernel modules: unknown
[12:12] <[Saint]> "
[12:12] <[Saint]> I'm not even sure how that is possible...but, that's what it gives me.
[12:12] <ashleyludlow> may i ask the whole issue plz?
[12:12] <atlef> [Saint], ah, then im not sure what to do
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !who | ashleyludlow
[12:13] <ashleyludlow> or a bug trker?
[12:13] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: nop, not atm.....very important internet connectivity issues atm....I'll need more than a week to download all
[12:14] <[Saint]> atlef: assuming it did list the driver in use there, but still displayed the driver as unknown via the settings...did you have a solution?
[12:14] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: well, i'd say you have a good shot that just installing latest ubuntu will solve your issues directly
[12:14] <atlef> [Saint], sorry
[12:14] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: if its new, just try to get your hands on a installer-cd
[12:14] <[Saint]> just wondering how far I should bother poking at this. I have working graphics, but am stuck with a 'standard' experience...which isn't so bad, but the card is plenty capable.
[12:15] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: not the basic one : I booted a 12.10 on live usb, same erratic behavior. But I haven't tried to compile driver on this one
[12:15] <atlef> [Saint], what gfx card is this
[12:16] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: if you have a live usb, this might be good for installing or even updating
[12:16] <thecpaptain> @nibbler: Internet ID in Sweden is a way for citizens to identify themselves on the internet in order to do stuff connected to government, banking and similar services that otherwise would require your ID
[12:17] <nibbler_> thecpaptain: ah, thanks.
[12:17] <atlef> [Saint], i dropped out
[12:17] <Porkepix2> nibbler_: I'll check all this. In any cases, thanks for your help
[12:17] <nibbler_> Porkepix2: welcome, and best of luck
[12:17] <Porkepix2> ty
[12:18] <[Saint]> I guess the joke is on me for using an ATI card that isn't one of 'the elite few' with super-backflip-mega-booyah-ultra-support.
[12:19] <atlef> [Saint], damn amd :-)
[12:20] <[Saint]> Better than the embedded nvidia gfx chipset in my SO's laptop. I mean, at least I have working graphics and not a recipe for an epileptic fit. :)
[12:21] <[Saint]> That machine flickers the screen on/off at ~10Hz
[12:22] <atlef> [Saint], have you looked at bumblebee for the laptop? http://bumblebee-project.org/
[12:23] <cordoval> anyone can help me to repair my virtualbox?
[12:24] <atlef> !ask | cordoval
[12:24] <[Saint]> Virtualbox probably could.
[12:24] <KM0201> well, depends on the problem, is the problem virtual box, or an ubuntu install inside virtualbox...  asking questions 101.
[12:24] <cordoval> please Breaks existing package 'virtualbox-4.1' that conflict: 'virtualbox'. But the /home/cordoval/Desktop virtualbox-4.2_Ubuntupriceiseamd64.deb providers it via 'virtualbox'
[12:25] <[Saint]> atlef: I'm aware of the project, but this particular laptop doesn't use GPU switching.
[12:25] <cfhowlett> cordoval: is your system 64 bit?
[12:25] <[Saint]> thanks, though.
[12:25] <cordoval> yes
[12:25] <cordoval> cfhowlett:
[12:25] <atlef> [Saint], oh, sorry, sounded like it
[12:26] <[Saint]> atlef: No, it's just a *very* weird screen resolution...and the drivers I've tried with it all choke.
[12:27] <[Saint]> 2048x1584
[12:27] <[Saint]> #weirdresolutions
[12:27] <atlef> [Saint], i think it is possible to edit xorg.conf to get the right screenresolution
[12:29] <cordoval> please Breaks existing package 'virtualbox-4.1' that conflict: 'virtualbox'. But the /home/cordoval/Desktop virtualbox-4.2_Ubuntupriceiseamd64.deb providers it via 'virtualbox'
[12:29] <cordoval> anynoe has run into this?
[12:29] <cordoval> i guess if i remove it it can improve situation right?
[12:30] <cordoval> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/9918
[12:31] <Eagleman> Where is application data ussually stored?
[12:31] <[Saint]> atlef: ah, that didn't occur to me...creating an xorg.conf by hand was probably too much effort than I wanted to put into it at the time.
[12:31] <atlef> [Saint], more info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[12:32] <adamk> You can always try creating a mode for the resolution, without creating an xorg.conf file and restarting X, using 'xrandr'
[12:32] <cfhowlett> RE: dropbox.  I'm in China and can't access Dropbox's site directly.  Win7 works without problems, but I installed that before I arrived in China.  The final installation step of installing the dropbox daemon keeps timing out.  Suggestions/workarounds?
[12:33] <TakeItEZ> cfhowlett: tried using tor, vpn?
[12:34] <[Saint]> adamk: I think I might actually go the 'roll your own xorg.conf" route, as I might be able to kill two birds with one stone here and force it to use a specific video driver as well.
[12:34] <Elvinz> hello
[12:35] <adamk> [Saint]: Which is fine, but it's probably worth testing the modeline you are going to put in the xorg.conf file *first* :-)
[12:35] <Elvinz> is it possible to force unity to maximize all app at launch, so as not to have to click on the maximize button everytime ?
[12:35] <[Saint]> I will do, but at the present point, I couldn;t possibly make it any less usable I don't think :)
[12:36] <[Saint]> I have to ssh in, or risk an epileptic fit.
[12:37] <kylescottmcgill> Elvinz: i think it is but not inside Unity, it will be somewhere else that you set that
[12:38] <XATRIX> Hi guys, my server was rebooted suspiciously, how can i figure out, was it shut down by command, or power fault
[12:38] <Elvinz> kylescottmcgill, ok. As some application have a command line switch to enable the maximization, how do I edit the launcher ? For the terminal for example, I could add "--maximize"
[12:38] <jrib> Elvinz: try devilspie
[12:38] <jrib> Elvinz: there also may be some way in ccsm
[12:38] <jrib> !devilspie | Elvinz
[12:38] <nibbler_> XATRIX: log files
[12:38] <kylescottmcgill> You will need to find the corrosponding .desktop file
[12:39] <delphinas> hello;)
[12:39] <kylescottmcgill> try using locate <yourapp>.desktop
[12:39] <XATRIX> nibbler_: what should i look in log files for ?
[12:39] <kylescottmcgill> flac0x:  ^^
[12:39] <flac0x> kylescottmcgill, ?
[12:40] <kylescottmcgill> XATRIX: check the auth.log to see if someone sudo shutdown your box, if its not there, it might have been your host (if its hosted)
[12:40] <Elvinz> ok thank you. I have not used Ubuntu for a long time. I love the Unity interface, and have replaced two win 7 boxes since yesterday.
[12:40] <jrib> Elvinz: apparently, yes, you can also do it in ccsm.  Excuse the blogspam: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1110-updates-new-window-auto.html
[12:40] <cfhowlett> delphinas: greetings
[12:40] <delphinas> Do you still feel "lag" on Ubuntu under VirtualBox? Installed guest addons and vboxvideo
[12:40] <XATRIX> kylescottmcgill: it's a dedicaed server
[12:40] <kylescottmcgill> sorry flac0x i ment Elvinz
[12:40] <delphinas> it is better than it was
[12:40] <XATRIX> Don't think it's a host
[12:40] <delphinas> but still feels wrong somehow :D
[12:41] <flac0x> kylescottmcgill, ok
[12:43] <aslan> hi
[12:43] <delphinas> so anyone can run Ubutnu 12.10 on VB smoothly?
[12:43] <delphinas> aslan, hi
[12:44] <DoingMyHeadIn>  <DoingMyHeadIn> Help please, have just allowed the latest update to be installed on ubuntu 12.04 and now the system will only start in low graphics mode.  The error is 2:3:4: cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86.  Paste of output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491310/plain/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1491303/plain/ .
[12:47] <fidel_> hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)
[12:48] <Elvinz> is there a way to simply change all the system font size (default are a bit too big on my netbook) ?
[12:50] <[Saint]> Elvinz: System Settings - Universal Access - Text Size
[12:50] <kkkkjjjh> sal
[12:50] <kkkkjjjh> all
[12:53] <Elvinz> [Saint], thank you, but the font reduction is very important. Is there a way to select the font sizes ?
[12:54] <die> hello
[12:54] <[Saint]> Elvinz: not globally, no.
[12:54] <[Saint]> At least, not that I am aware of.
[12:55] <Elvinz> [Saint], ok thank you
[12:55] <[Saint]> You can do so on a per-application basis if the application allows this, otherwise the universal access menu is the only option I am aware of the change the font height 'globally'
[12:55] <[Saint]> You may have to configure each application individually if you need finer grained control.
[12:56] <Elvinz> [Saint] ok !
[12:57] <die> s salute you expect www.aynasohbet.com
[12:57] <mathnode> So...Shuttleworth talks a good game, but is anyone retailing Ubuntu tablets in the UK?
[12:58] <[Saint]> mathnode: before the OS is released?
[12:58] <[Saint]> If they are, I'll give them some serious credit...and, accuse them of being time lords.
[12:59] <mathnode> Oh I see
[12:59] <ea> Hello, I have accidentally formatted an ext3 filesystem with ext4 with during the ubuntu  12.04 LTS installation. Is there a way to recover this?
[12:59] <mathnode> [Saint]: I guess this is the closest/best for the time being? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-December/036230.html
[13:00] <[Saint]> mathnode: I /suppose/, in a way, some retailers *are* selling Ubuntu tablets.
[13:00] <ea> I assume the files should not be overwritten?
[13:00] <[Saint]> As you're perfectly capable of running a preview image on the Nexus 7.
[13:00] <mathnode> [Saint]: yeah sounds fine by me.
[13:01] <[Saint]> ea: your files are gone.
[13:01] <ea> [Saint], nothing was written in the filesystem
[13:01] <jrib> ea: try testdisk or foremost maybe
[13:01] <[Saint]> you said you formatted it. if there were files on there you needed...they are no longer there.
[13:02] <ea> jrib, thanks!!
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !recover > ea
[13:02] <Bieliq> hi guys i need help im beginner user of ubuntu and i need to install tar gz file how to do that without damn commands ??
[13:03] <jrib> Bieliq: what software are you installing?
[13:03] <Bieliq> i use ubuntu 12.04 and i want to isntall open office
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  with archive manager
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  libre office is in the repos, no need for a tar file
[13:03] <[Saint]> Isn't OO.o already a part of 12.04?
[13:04]  * [Saint] forgets
[13:04] <mathnode> Yeah it's just called Libre Office.
[13:04] <Bieliq> but libre office is open office ??
[13:04] <mathnode> Bieliq: Yes.
[13:04] <Bieliq> aaa thx guys
[13:04] <[Saint]> Yes. Same thing. Different name.
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> and not from oracle
[13:05] <Bieliq> but if i need to install smth in future how to do that in simple way ? command line scares me in ubuntu
[13:05] <CookieM> openoffice belongs to oracle and is barely maintained
[13:05] <fidel_> hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  use synaptic or the software center
[13:05] <CookieM> libreo. is independent
[13:05] <[Saint]> Bieliq: if you need to install something, you'll likely find it in the official repo, so you can use a graphical package manager.
[13:05] <mathnode> Bieliq: Ubuntu Software Center?
[13:06] <[Saint]> thought "sudo apt-get install <package_name>" isn't all that intimidating after time.
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  commands give a lot more control over your ubuntu system, better get used to it
[13:06] <Bieliq> but in ubuntu are programs from repositories only and sometimes u can find smth in net for ubuntu in tar gz file so i just ask for future if i needed smth to install manually
[13:07] <[Saint]> *you *something
[13:07] <Bieliq> hm guess i will need to get used
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  use archive manager
[13:07] <Bieliq> in archive i can unpack right ? but then what to do next ?
[13:08] <mar77i> hello. running ubuntu with dual-monitor on RADEON, and the left screen keeps blinking ... wtf, I'm just seeing it's set to 59.9hz
[13:08] <[Saint]> That depends entirely on what it is you're installing.
[13:08] <mar77i> while the other screen is set to 60hz
[13:08] <mathnode> Bieliq: Unless it's commercial software, it's generally not worth it. Stick to the Ubuntu Software Center, and download .deb's for 32bit or 64bit.
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> Bieliq  start with the basics
[13:08] <Vivek> Hi, I am disabling ufw on my Ubuntu 12.04 server with ufw disable and update-rc.d -f ufw remove
[13:08] <jrib> Bieliq: it depends on the software.  tar.gz is like zip.    Anything can be in there.  There's no one universal way to deal with software like that other than telling you to read its documentation.  Ideally you would instead find the software in the repositories or as a .deb for your ubuntu version.  If you can't and you aren't sure what to do, you can come here and ask for
[13:08] <jrib> assistance
[13:08] <Vivek> On restarting the server I am getting iptables rules when I do a iptables -L
[13:09] <TakeItEZ> Bieliq: most archives come with a README, you read after unpacking how to proceed
[13:09] <jrib> Vivek: yes, because ufw has started probably.
[13:09] <Bieliq> ok i wont trouble myself with that now, if i see smth i cant manage i will come ask, thx very much for help guys
[13:10] <Bieliq> have  a nice day
[13:10] <wdp> hey, is there a 3d graphics driver for a ati rs690 (radeon x1200)
[13:10] <wdp> ?
[13:10] <adamk> wdp: Yes, the open source driver that comes with Ubuntu.
[13:10] <adamk> That's the only driver available for that GPU on any modern distribution.
[13:11] <Vivek> jrib: ok
[13:11] <wdp> hm k.
[13:11] <Vivek> So how do I disable ufw permanently ?
[13:11] <mar77i> oh just noticed I'm calling xrandr anyway in the .xsession, will try setting --rate
[13:11] <jrib> Vivek: your update-rc.d is a no-op since ufw is started by upstart (/etc/init/ufw.conf).  I don't know much about ufw but I assume that just running "sudo ufw disable" would disable it in the future.  Have you checked its documentation?
[13:11] <wdp> is there some tool in ubuntu to set the brightness and contrast for a monitor?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Vivek  sudo ufw disable
[13:11] <wdp> i searched in the settings, but there's nothing like that
[13:11] <iceroot> Vivek: sudo ufw disable
[13:11] <Vivek> I already did a sudo ufw disable
[13:12] <Vivek> on reboot iptables -L shows rules again.
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Vivek  great, that's the way to do it
[13:12] <Vivek> MonkeyDust: It is not working
[13:12] <jrib> Vivek: and what's ufw status?
[13:12] <Vivek> After I do a ufw disable it is showing inactive
[13:12] <jrib> Vivek: and after you reboot...
[13:12] <Vivek> let me check the status after the reboot
[13:13] <Vivek> It is still inactive
[13:13] <Vivek> But I have iptables rules there....
[13:13] <jrib> Vivek: were there iptables rules before you rebooted?
[13:13] <Vivek> Yes
[13:13] <Vivek> Whatever was set by Ubuntu server 12.04 by default.
[13:13] <jrib> Vivek: there are no rules by default
[13:13] <Vivek> I did not set any riles.
[13:13] <jrib> Vivek: right, so you need to figure out where they are coming from if "ufw disable" isn't disabling them
[13:13] <TakeItEZ> Vivek: so you likely have an "iptables-restore" script somewhere
[13:14] <Vivek> ok
[13:14] <jrib> Vivek: did you install an official ubuntu image?
[13:14] <Vivek> Yes.
[13:14] <TStarkH> Hi
[13:14] <jrib> Vivek: what are the rules?
[13:14] <Vivek> TakeItEZ: What do you want me to do with the iptables-restore script ?
[13:15] <jrib> at least last time I checked, there were no rules by default.  Maybe that changed.
[13:15] <Vivek> jrib: brb, let me copy the rules.
[13:15] <blami> Vivek: pastebin them
[13:16] <blami> jrib: maybe he saved rules set by ufw I accidentaly did same thing once
[13:16] <TStarkH> I need assistance with video drivers. Can somebody help me?
[13:16] <TakeItEZ> Vivek: if ufw isn't running and restoring your rules, there seeem to be either a script using iptables-restore doing it or iptables-persistent
[13:16] <jrib> blami: oh
[13:17] <fidel_> hi - i am running 12.04 on an dell xps15z. That worked for month now without issues - using acpi=noirq at boot. Since 2 weeks ubuntu hangs at boot if i use this acpi-setting with the output: drm:intel_dsm_platform_mux_info *error* mux info call failed. If i switch to acpi=off i can boot. any ideas how to get acpiworking again? (dell comes with an optimus card/chip)
[13:17] <wifi> hi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet
[13:20] <mmarc__2> hi guys! In Ubuntu - do we have any mailing list related to PPA questions?
[13:25] <tarzan> \join #grass
[13:26] <LudwigVonMises> tarzan: Welcome to #grass.
[13:26] <tarzan> :P
[13:26] <mathnode> Ubuntu, the stoners choice.
[13:27] <kesor> where can I find rsyslog 7.x packages for ubuntu lucid?
[13:27] <Transhumanist> mmmmm weed
[13:28] <LudwigVonMises> "Transhumanist: mmmmm weed" << figures
[13:28] <iceroot> !info rsyslog lucid
[13:28] <mathnode> I don't smoke weed, nor do I use Unity. But I imagine the combination must be quite psychadellic.
[13:28] <iceroot> kesor: hogher versions then 4.2.x only in ppas or backports
[13:28] <kesor> iceroot: couldn't find any ppas with 7.x :(
[13:29] <kesor> backports also only has version 5.x etc..
[13:29] <iceroot> kesor: and you need 7.x why?
[13:29] <iceroot> !info rsyslog precise
[13:30] <iceroot> !info rsyslog
[13:30] <iceroot> kesor: 5.x will be the highest you will find officially for ubuntu
[13:30] <iceroot> kesor: even 12.10 has 5.x
[13:30] <TStarkH> Is there a stable version of AMD drivers for ubuntu 12.10?
[13:30] <kesor> iceroot: i know, and my client unfortunately is still using mostly lucid on all the servers.
[13:31] <iceroot> kesor: and lucid has 5.x in backports, so what is the problem?
[13:31] <Vivek>  blami, TakeItEZ, jrib, MonkeyDust : http://fpaste.org/q8L4/
[13:31] <Pici> kesor: I only see rsyslog7 in debian experimental, which definitely hasn't been synced to any Ubuntus.
[13:31] <Vivek> That is what the I.P Tables rules look like after the server is rebooted after a ufw disable...
[13:31] <kesor> iceroot: it does? … pretty sure it doesnt
[13:31] <TakeItEZ> kesor: rsyslog.com has an ubuntu-repo, check it
[13:32] <iceroot> [14:29]     kesor | backports also only has version 5.x etc..
[13:32] <kesor> TakeItEZ: their repo only has the -devel and not the -stable version, and its for precise only.
[13:32] <iceroot> kesor: and why you need 7.x?
[13:32] <iceroot> kesor: because its newer?
[13:33] <TakeItEZ> kesor: i'd guess you have to build it yourself then
[13:33] <kesor> iceroot: no, because it has several bugs fixed in features I am using.
[13:33] <Vivek> TakeItEZ:  http://fpaste.org/q8L4/
[13:33] <kesor> the fun of building packages myself … always works, with the exception of core dumps and the code debugging you have to do to make sure the patches actually work … etc.
[13:33] <Vivek> sorry for reposting, thought you missed my post.
[13:34] <iceroot> kesor: the main problem is that debian is not using it anymore so the normal sync from debian will give the old-stable version
[13:34] <wifi> hi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet
[13:34] <kesor> iceroot: debian is not using rsyslog anymore? … don't they have it in experimental?
[13:34] <Vivek> That is the iptables rules that show up after the server reboot even after ufw disable is done.
[13:34] <iceroot> kesor: and if there is no good reason ubuntu will not build 7.x instead of the 5.x sync from debian
[13:34] <Pici> iceroot: version 7 is in debian experimental
[13:35] <kesor> iceroot: ubuntu is always behind debian now
[13:35] <kesor> ?
[13:35] <iceroot> kesor: no
[13:35] <kesor> iceroot: so I don't understand your argument
[13:35] <iceroot> Pici: ah ok my last info was it has an older version because it will be skipped
[13:36] <cordoval> solved it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092298
[13:36] <cordoval> thanks
[13:39] <iceroot> kesor: it was added some month ago in experimental. even sid has 5.x
[13:39] <kesor> how hard is it to backport debian experimental packages to lucid? all I know how to do is pull-debian-source rsyslog experimental ...
[13:39] <iceroot> kesor: and normally ubuntu is syncing from sid and not experimental
[13:40] <chemist^> hello everyone! I hope someone can help me solve my problem..... i'm using ubuntu 12.04 ... when i listen to music in any application and want to turn down the volume...when i change the Master volume with my keyboard, the sound of the music only slightly lowers it self.... almost no difference between 99% and 1% volume .... but when i mute it...it mutes the music too...
[13:40] <xetius> my gnome-terminal crashes when I try to access any of the menus, or do anything like opening a new tab.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[13:40] <chemist^> how can i set the key on my keyboard to change the volume of all the channels at the same time?
[13:40] <chemist^> so no matter what i do...when i press to lower the volume it actually lowers it...?
[13:40] <sw> !keys | chemist^
[13:41] <iceroot> kesor: for a quick testing, download the source-package, install the builddepbs and use "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"  or use the deb directly but mixing repos/packages is not supported here
[13:41] <chemist^> sw i know that
[13:41] <sw> chemist^ Then?
[13:41] <kesor> iceroot: "pull-debian-source rsyslog experimental ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" ?
[13:41] <chemist^> wait a sec
[13:42] <iceroot> kesor: you also need the builddeps
[13:42] <chemist^> sw the key does change the volume
[13:42] <chemist^> but the music is still loud
[13:42] <kesor> oh how I hate package building :(
[13:42] <chemist^> even if master output volume is 2%
[13:42] <jCuber> sw: chemist^ : I think whar chemist^ is trying to do is change the volume keybinds to change all of the channels at once
[13:42] <chemist^> yes
[13:42] <chemist^> sorry for my bad english
[13:43] <chemist^> it's a bit rusty :D
[13:43] <chemist^> i'll make an example
[13:44] <chemist^> I want to listen to an mp3...so i open it in VLC or amarok ... when i change the volume from 100% to 2% with my keyboard or with the mouse ... the music is only a little less loud then before
[13:44] <chemist^> almost no change in volume
[13:45] <chemist^> anyone? :)
[13:45] <iceroot> kesor: i would not do it if i look at the list of dependencies..initscripts.. which is pulling a lot of new stuff which is not in ubuntu yet
[13:45] <w3bg33k> anyone have issues with turnkey linux?
[13:46] <iceroot> kesor: there is a very good reason why 7.x is in experimental and not sid or anything else
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> chemist^  open a terminal and type alsamixer, see if you can change sth there
[13:46] <iceroot> w3bg33k: is that ubuntu related?
[13:46] <kesor> iceroot: can't I just install debian packages from experimental in lucid ubuntu and tell apt to ignore the various numbers and stuff?
[13:46] <w3bg33k> iceroot - yes
[13:46] <iceroot> kesor: dont do that
[13:47] <chemist^> MonkeyDust, i have already... the sound gets lower if i change the PCM volume
[13:48] <preds> will the pulse run by my user use values from /etc/pulse/ or do I need to copy files or something
[13:48] <chemist^> but how do i make my keyboard shortcut lower PCM instead of master...or even better both at the same time
[13:48] <preds> the sound quality is notably lacking and I'm trying to do something about it
[13:49] <xetius> tuesday
[13:52] <zibords> hi
[13:52] <chemist^> nothing can be done ;(
[13:53] <cfhowlett> zibords: greetings
[13:54] <zibords_> hi cfhowlett
[13:54] <wifi> hi, i got a problem with my wireless network connection. I get connected, i am able to surf 2-3 pages in the browser, then it breaks, and even though the connection is still active, i am unable to do anything that implies internet
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> wifi  only with wireless, or also with ethernet?
[13:55] <phaidros> 12.04 with dual monitor is dringing me crazy: mouse always hangs between the screens for a second before being able to move along .. any hints how to disable that?
[13:55] <phaidros> driving
[13:57] <kesor> what does it mean dh: Sorry, but 7 is the highest compatibility level supported by this debhelper. and can I safely ignore it?
[13:58] <rushboy> Hello I am working on some .cpp  and .hpp files . Can anyone let me know if we can #include such files in .src files ?
[13:59] <fidel_> rushboy: not really channelrelated question- maybe try asking in addition in a coding related channel
[13:59] <xetius> Anyone here able to help with a crashing gnome-terminal problem?
[13:59] <Pici> rushboy: ##c++ would be a far better place to ask
[14:00] <phaidros> k. got it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109338/how-do-i-disable-mouse-magnet-on-middle-edge-with-multi-monitors .. ccsm edge-stop..
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> xetius  let's hear it
[14:05] <xetius> MonkeyDust: ubuntu 12.10 and gnome 3.7.3.  When I access the menus on gnome-terminal, it just disappears, almost like closing it
[14:05] <xetius> no chance to enter a crash report or anything like that
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> xetius  the current version in 12.10 is 3.6 -- anything higher is not from the repos and not supported, i'm afraid
[14:06] <xetius> ok, fair enough.  thanks
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> xetius  why not simply use the version from the repos?
[14:07] <xetius> Actually, I can't remember how I got this.  Don't know how to roll back either
[14:08] <Natalia> ciao
[14:10] <Pip> So where to buy a ubuntu phone?
[14:11] <RixTox> not announced yet?
[14:11] <Pip> oh
[14:11] <fidel_> Pip: wait until they are available in the first place ;)
[14:11] <Pip> I wish they will release the ROM first so that I can burn into my phone
[14:11] <RixTox> it will be an Ubuntu generation
[14:12] <h00k> Pip: #ubuntu-discussion is the place where people are talking about that, if you want to head there
[14:12] <Pip> thanks
[14:12] <Pip> But that channel doesn't exist
[14:13] <RixTox> no one is there
[14:13] <DJones> !phone | Pip
[14:15] <T3X> i am running download 24/24, which make internet speed slower of other users on the net. is there any way to give priority to other users using bandwidth after they finish i back start using full bandwidth?
[14:15] <michele__> ciao
[14:16] <michele__> questo è il canale italiano?
[14:16] <atlef> !it
[14:17] <KnightEternal> hi.
[14:17] <KnightEternal> has anyone tried to install 12.10 quantal on a mk808 android stick?
[14:19] <pinkwaters> hmmmmm
[14:22] <drLization> Hi there, anybody here?
[14:22] <atlef> yes
[14:24] <drLization> I just downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.ISO
[14:24] <drLization> it's 753 MB, can this be burned on a 700 MB disk (80 MB)
[14:24] <drLization> it's 753 MB, can this be burned on a 700 MB disk (80 MB)?
[14:24] <drLization> oops sorry for double post
[14:24] <alien__> It is said that linux to drop i386 in the future. Really?
[14:25] <drLization> I think you need to "overburn" to do this, right? I just got vanila win7 home premium on this machine, can this overburn?
[14:25] <drLization> well, I think I shld be using google instead, sorry to bother you with this
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> alien__  yes and Thorvalds says "good riddance"
[14:26] <vexx> hi
[14:26] <drLization> got what I was looking for - http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/11/05/0333225/ubuntu-1204-lts-wont-fit-on-a-cd
[14:28] <vexx> someone knows warsow? game
[14:28] <drLization> vexx, I haven't played warsow since 2005
[14:29] <drLization> does it still have a big community? Does it run on ubuntu?
[14:29] <vexx> yes
[14:29] <ayoub022> yep
[14:30] <ayoub022> QUIT
[14:30] <ukebane> Maybe someone can help me with this, I'm trying to uninstall all the old versions of Java
[14:30] <ukebane> I uninstalled openjdk6 and 7 from the software center
[14:30] <drLization> I dop't want to waste a 4GB DVD on 750MB ubuntu ISO, can I download a 'bigger' ISO with more libraries on it somewhere?
[14:31] <ukebane> but java -version shows I still have java version 1.7.0_09 installed
[14:32] <iceroot> ukebane: does it show "oracle java"?
[14:32] <vexx>  drlization  You know that servers can continue to operate?
[14:32] <ukebane> it says openjdk
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> drLization  or use a usb stick
[14:33] <piglit> how can i see if i am using ipv4 or ipv6 ?
[14:34] <drLization> vexx: what do you mean? servers can continue to operate?
[14:34] <TakeItEZ> drLization: use usb or cd/dvd-rw media
[14:35] <drLization> good point,  MonkeyDust,
[14:35] <drLization> and others
[14:36] <ukebane> iceroot: my goal is to install oracle java 7 and use that, but the manual I'm following states I should remove old versions first
[14:37] <Bsims> I am running ubuntu in virtual box... any way to convert my virtualbox file to a live usb so I can run it in persistant mode?
[14:38] <T3X> what should i use to repeat the same command after finish executing?
[14:39] <Bsims> T3X: foo --options arg;foo --options arg
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> T3X  arrow up
[14:39] <Bsims> or arrow up lol
[14:39] <KnightEternal> or !!
[14:39] <kim__> watch
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> or ![pid]
[14:40] <atjehcyber> need ubuntu free cd whare i can get it
[14:40] <SnowmanX11> Was somebody able to run newest catalyst on ATI Radeon HD 6800M videocard? (Catalyst 12.10 or 12.11 Beta) I am interested on both Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and 12.10 too
[14:40] <T3X> MonkeyDust: that wil keep doing it automaticaly?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> atjehcyber  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[14:41] <DJones> atjehcyber: You can either download it and burn it to a dvd or usb stick, or you contact your local linux/ubuntu user group, they may have spare install dvd's
[14:41] <atjehcyber> MonkeyDust i know that, but before i have get free cd from ubuntu free
[14:41] <atjehcyber> but right now i not find it more
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> atjehcyber  ah, order cd's, you mean
[14:42] <DJones> atjehcyber: shipit stopped distributing cd's about 12 months ago from memory
[14:42] <MoL0ToV> someone  know how to put in a basketcase the hide cursor to scrool back a window and use classical theme cursor???
[14:43] <MoL0ToV> i'm so frustrated
[14:43] <ukebane> would removing java by removing all the locations stated in "whereis java" cause a lot of errors or is it a valid way to remove it?
[14:44] <Osakasa> SnowmanX11, i managed to install 12.11 beta for HD6000. running 12.04
[14:44] <Touhou11> ukebane: You should remove it using the package manager (assuming that's how you installed it)
[14:44] <T3X> what is the best torrent software for linux?
[14:45] <T3X> which i can use on Terminal
[14:45] <ukebane> Touhou11: I already removed the java's I could find in the package manager, but it still shows up and runs
[14:45] <Rismos> t3x: rtorrent
[14:45] <Osakasa> SnowmanX11, there is a stupid watermark bottom-right corner with block a view sometimes :(
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> T3X  deluge and transmission are nice
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> ah terminal
[14:45] <T3X> yep terminal
[14:45] <Rismos> t3x: keyboard shortcuts take some getting used to but it's a nice/simple/fast torrent client that runs in terminal
[14:45] <T3X> so GUI
[14:46] <MoL0ToV> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.soAborted (core dumped)
[14:46] <MoL0ToV>   so pretty!! :D howto fix?
[14:46] <Bsims> T3X: I beleve there is a cli version of transmission
[14:46] <TakeItEZ> T3X: rtorrent works fine, but there is no single best application. it always depends on your needs/whishes etc
[14:46] <lucido> herro, how can I make a bootable usb flashdrive from ubuntu that I can use to install winxp?
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> lucido  do you have an installable winxp iso?
[14:47] <lucido> MonkeyDust, I do
[14:47] <Touhou11> TakeItEZ: Negative, rTorrent is the best
[14:47] <Bsims> lucido: install lili or unetbootin
[14:48] <lucido> Bsims, tried unetbootinn, but when I boot up the flashdrive its stuck in the default option
[14:48] <Bsims> lucido: I dunno then sorry, but lili lets you select your own isos
[14:49] <Rismos> Bsims:  imagewriter in ubuntu
[14:50] <Bsims> Rismos: heh always another program
[14:50] <Rismos> :)
[14:50] <Rismos> i try :)
[14:50] <Rismos> i've had great luck with imagewriter
[14:50] <ukebane> Touhou11: there is now no more mention of java in ubuntu software center
[14:51] <ukebane> Touhou11: whereis java shows java in: java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[14:52] <wdp> how can i disabled that the file / edit / etc menu is at the top?
[14:52] <Touhou11> ukebane: Those might just be symbolic links, also unless you do a complete removal configuration files in /etc/ are always left behind after uninstalling
[14:52] <ukebane> Touhou11: running java -version still runs and shows me the version
[14:52] <wdp> s/disabled/disable
[14:52] <ukebane> Touhou11: which indicates the program is still there
[14:53] <Touhou11> ukebane: Have you searched for "jre", "jdk", "icedtea" etc. in the software centre? Or try synaptic/CLI to search instead, the software centre is not very powerful
[14:53] <ukebane> Touhou11: thanks I'll try that now
[14:57] <andrea_> did u guys ever heard of someone not being able to come back to work due to the fact that on the 1st of january its badge was no longer enabled?
[14:57] <andrea_> oops sorry wrong channel
[14:58] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sudo apt-cache search jre
[14:58] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sudo apt-cache search jre
[14:59] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: shows plenty
[15:00] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: you could pick one of them if you wanted to install another version of JRE
[15:00] <ukebane> I need JDK 7, the oracle one
[15:00] <kylescottmcgill> oh i see, try searching for JDK
[15:00] <kylescottmcgill> but vaguely i remember Ubuntu and Oracle having a fall out or something
[15:01] <kylescottmcgill> so i wouldnt be surprised if you had to add a PPA or Install manually
[15:01] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099496&highlight=jdk
[15:01] <dfgas> anyone here install ubuntu on their cr-48?
[15:01] <ukebane> but I'm having troubles removing the old version
[15:01] <ukebane> because I'm a nubcake basically
[15:01] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[15:02] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: you should be able to sudo apt-get remove java
[15:02] <Bsims> ukebane: try sudo apt-get purge java... that will remove any config files left over
[15:02] <kylescottmcgill> Bsims: +1
[15:02] <l057c0d3r> --purge
[15:03] <ukebane> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:03] <ukebane> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:03] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: use sudo
[15:03] <Bsims> ukebane: Ok close synaptic or software manager first
[15:03] <TommehM> Zenum, Good day.,.
[15:03] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: I did
[15:03] <Zenum> Gootentag
[15:03] <Bsims> and/or use sudo
[15:03] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: follow Bsims advice too
[15:04] <kylescottmcgill> that and software center if its open
[15:04] <ukebane> used sudo, had synaptic open
[15:04] <Zenum> TommehM: How are you?
[15:04] <ukebane> my bad
[15:04] <TommehM> What you up to?
[15:04] <Bsims> ukebane: heh at least it tells you what it thinks is wrong
[15:04] <Zenum> I'm installing my #archlinux server
[15:05] <TommehM> Zenum, #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <ukebane> Bsims: same error, not running anything besides weechat and two terminals
[15:06] <Zenum> ok TommehM
[15:06] <Bsims> ukebane: wierd... ya don't have an install or something on another terminal/virtual window do you
[15:06] <wdp> nvm. found out how.
[15:06] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: check htop or top
[15:06] <ukebane> Bsims: neg, just bash waiting for a command and this irc
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> you could try lsof | grep lock
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> or something
[15:07] <Bsims> yeah what kylescottmcgill said
[15:07] <ukebane> only kblockd
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> it should tell you which application is using the lock
[15:07] <kylescottmcgill> and then you can pkill that bad boy
[15:08] <kylescottmcgill> dont forget to sudo pkill
[15:09] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: worst comes to worst, you could sudo service lightdm restart CAREFUL as this will log you out but it will kill most applications open or stalled etc
[15:09] <ukebane> I'll try that
[15:09] <ukebane> brb
[15:11] <kesor> I built a source package with dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa for rsyslog and all its dependencies, how do I test that the actual binary builds pass? I have pbuilder create, but can't understand how to use it
[15:11] <kylescottmcgill> argh, its like a sweltering 40 degrees atm, not used to this heat
[15:12] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: welcome back
[15:12] <jrib>  kesor now use pbuilder to build the package
[15:12] <jrib> !pbuilder | kesor
[15:12] <kesor> jrib: but how? it says the .dsc files are wrong
[15:12] <jrib> !packaging | kesor
[15:13] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: thanks
[15:13] <jrib> kesor: well, what exactly are you doing and what exactly is it saying (use a pastebin)?
[15:13] <kesor> ubuntu/debian packaging is too f complex … always takes me a whole day to build one package :(
[15:13] <MaximB> is it possible to  install Ubuntu on my Android Galaxy S2 device ? (seen the video, but not the "how to install")
[15:13] <Touhou11> kesor: You're doing something wrong, it shouldn't be difficult
[15:13] <apt-get_install> anyone here that can explain what "acpitz" in lm-senors is?
[15:13] <kylescottmcgill> MaximB: i think we would be a way away yet before its released
[15:14] <jrib> kesor: pbuilder is just a convenience so you don't pollute your environment and to verify you've really listed all the build-deps
[15:14] <MaximB> like 1-2 years ?
[15:14] <kesor> Touhou11: I'm trying to backport existing packages to lucid … and its extremely hard.
[15:14] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: ehh, I forgot the apt-get command
[15:14] <kylescottmcgill> nah i would say like 6 - 8 months before it starts popping up on how to compile and build etc
[15:14] <kesor> jrib: yep. just waiting for the error to pop again and I'll show you
[15:14] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sudo apt-cache search jdk
[15:14] <jrib> kesor: you know there's a tool for backporting too
[15:14] <kylescottmcgill> then sudo apt-get install <package>
[15:15] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: for purging it :P
[15:15] <kesor> jrib: really?
[15:15] <jrib> !backport | kesor
[15:15] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: I'm planning on installing it manually remember
[15:15] <MaximB> kylescottmcgill: the problem is that it won't support android apps.... and ubuntu isn't that major on itself to make developers program apps for it
[15:15] <kesor> jrib: i don't know all that much, I just waste lots of time building packages.
[15:15] <kylescottmcgill> sudo apt-get remove --purge jdk ?
[15:15] <jrib> kesor: well once you spend time doing it once, I don't see why it would take very long
[15:15] <ukebane> excellent, unable to locate package jdk
[15:15] <apt-get_install> kylescottmcgill: or sudo apt-get pruge jdk
[15:16] <kesor> jrib: what you just linked, it explains how to use the UI to open windows and stuff … wtf?
[15:16] <kylescottmcgill> MaximB: yeah they will be going through testing etc, its more an advertisement i would think
[15:16] <kesor> jrib: its not a tool, its just description how to add backports to apt sources.
[15:16] <MaximB> ok thanks....see you in 6-7 months :D ...just kidding
[15:16] <helmut_> hi
[15:17] <xBytez> hello helmut_.
[15:17] <apt-get_install> anyone here that can explain what "acpitz" in lm-senors is?
[15:17] <jrib> kesor: are you sure...?
[15:17] <kylescottmcgill> ukebane: sorry you were purging java wernt you, but you want jdk
[15:18] <kesor> jrib: yeah, pretty sure.
[15:18] <jrib> kesor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports linked from that page
[15:18] <kylescottmcgill> apt-get_install: im guessing its an abstraction layer for apci ?
[15:18] <jrib> kesor: but anyway, I usually do what you are doing (just grab the source from a later release, verify deps are satisfied, and rebuild)
[15:18] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: actually after restarting lightdm I have the latest version of oracle jdk it says
[15:19] <ukebane> kylescottmcgill: (I tried to install that before finding the thread)
[15:19] <apt-get_install> kylescottmcgill: what?
[15:20] <jrib> kesor: can I ask why you are trying to get a later version of rsyslog anyway?
[15:20] <dfgas> can anyone help getting my cr-48 with the modifed bios to boot efi ubuntu 12.04
[15:20] <kesor> jrib: i need some of the fixed bugs that are available in the later versions.   MAAS Server has 2 nics: 1 internet, 1 private network. All nodes also have 1 internet, 1 private network nic. How can i make PXE work with this setup?
[15:22] <apt-get_install> dfgas: what happens when u are trying to boot?
[15:22] <apt-get_install> black screen?
[15:22] <adam-33> Hello. Is it a fact that Ubuntu 12.10 employs an ephemeral key for the encryption of the swap file? What does it mean in practical terms?
[15:23] <kylescottmcgill> apt-get_install: apcitc is APCI Thermal Zone, its a daemon
[15:23] <jhsd> hello
[15:23] <kylescottmcgill> apcitz**
[15:23] <dfgas> apt-get_install: i get boot partition not found, no bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[15:23] <hero616> dfas: I searched Cr-48 and got this: How to boot Ubuntu on a Cr-48-The Chromium Projects.
[15:23] <jhsd> I'm trying to install Ubuntu but I can't find any partitions on my system.
[15:23] <apt-get_install> kylescottmcgill: ah thanks
[15:24] <apt-get_install> many thanks :)
[15:24] <jhsd> I selected "Something Else" from the two options but I can't see any partitions. :/
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> jhsd  use gparted while running the live session
[15:25] <dfgas> hero616: seen that plenty of times, no help. thats if i want to use stock bios and dual boot chrome os and ubuntu
[15:25] <jhsd> When I open gParted, I can see an "unallocated partition"
[15:25] <OerHeks> alperkanat, this might be a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Desktop/PXE run that service on your private lan
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> jhsd  that's good, now create partition
[15:26] <jhsd> and I can't open it. It says i can't have a parition outisde the dsk
[15:26] <jhsd> I already have windows now. i am trying to dual boot, monkeydust
[15:26] <alperkanat> OerHeks: afaik maas already runs a DHCP server with PXE preconfigured
[15:26] <dfgas> apt-get_install: did you see my response?
[15:27] <adam-33> Can anybody help me regarding swap encrytion?
[15:28] <Lofde_> is there an alpha build of ubuntu for android i can download and install on my galaxy nexus :D?
[15:28] <veleno> hello. I'm searching for the URLs to use in the sources.list for a 10.10 Maverick distribution. the links I was using until now do not work anymore
[15:28] <apt-get_install> dfgas: does grub load?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> jhsd  i've never seen the error message you mention, can you show a screenshot? http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[15:29] <apt-get_install> dfgas: do u reach the grub prompt?
[15:29] <benkaiser> Lofde_: not atm
[15:29] <kylescottmcgill> they should setup a Ubuntu Mobile channel, its been pretty big news in here today
[15:29] <benkaiser> its #ubuntu-phone
[15:29] <kylescottmcgill> lol
[15:29] <Lofde_> is there a website to sign up benkaiser to become notified.. as a developer/alpha tester
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> veleno  maverick is !eol, no longer maintained or supported
[15:30] <K1rk|Work> Hey anyone ever get an unhandled page fault exception when running an MSI package with WINE?  I'm trying to install Dragon Naturally Speaking on Ubuntu 12.04 with WINE 1.5.20 and I'm getting this error...  http://binaryimpulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/backtrace.txt
[15:30] <jrtappers_> can someone help me install the drivers for the Radeon HD 6310 plz
[15:30] <dfgas> apt-get_install: not at all
[15:30] <veleno> MonkeyDust: i don't want new packages, but just to be abler o install the old ones.. EoL means i can't get those any in case ?
[15:31] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: dosent jockey work?
[15:31] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, Nope :C
[15:31] <apt-get_install> dfgas: can u boot useing livecd?
[15:31] <apt-get_install> *usingh
[15:31] <apt-get_install> *using
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> veleno  maybe try this link http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:33] <veleno> MonkeyDust: that link provides the .iso files to download the images. it doesn't seem to offer a repository with the old maverick packages, does it ?
[15:33] <NeoColossus1020_> Is there a quick way to copy a file while renaming it and storing it in a different dir than the current dir?
[15:33] <dfgas> apt-get_install: yes and ubuntu installs just fine
[15:33] <RicCrouch> @jrtappers_ : Have you tried the "Additional Drivers" item in system settings?
[15:33] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: you mean in the gui?
[15:33] <apt-get_install> dfgas: but u cant boot?
[15:34] <NeoColossus1020_> jrib, in terminal.
[15:34] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: uh, just use cp
[15:34] <jrtappers_> tried the Additional drivers, it fails Log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1492287/
[15:34] <apt-get_install> mikecmpbll: 64 or 32 bit?
[15:34] <dfgas> apt-get_install: when the install is done and goto reboot no
[15:34] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: cp oldfile newfile
[15:34] <mikecmpbll> 8bit
[15:34] <kylescottmcgill> im not looking to start a flame war, but in terms of generic widget based applets, is bash or lua faster? anyone have any experience with both?
[15:34] <NeoColossus1020_> But I also need it to mv to a different dir after it is renamed.
[15:34] <NeoColossus1020_> Can I pipe this?
[15:34] <apt-get_install> dfgas: so, after install, u go to rebbot, and then it doesnt srart?
[15:35] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: 32 or 64 bit?
[15:35] <jrtappers_> 32
[15:35] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: cp oldpath newpath
[15:35] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: try it...
[15:35] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: ah
[15:35] <K1rk|Work> My WINE question is now posted on the forums.  www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12435972
[15:35] <Touhou11> kylescottmcgill: I'd suspect Lua, and besides you would be a glutton for punishment trying to write more than a few lines in bash
[15:36] <NeoColossus1020_> jrib: So then: cp /this/file ~/this/tmp
[15:36] <jrtappers_> apt-get_install, and the red no entry sign shows up after i try
[15:36] <jrib> NeoColossus1020_: sure
[15:36] <F3Speech> trying to write/re-edit an init.d script to run a python app but when I 'start' it i get the error "/usr/bin/python already running." which it is as another daemon. Can anyone help me debug this problem.
[15:36] <kylescottmcgill> Touhou11: good point, i use Awesome WM, but have seen a bunch of bash scripts, so wondered which was... not better, but more suited to the job
[15:36] <kylescottmcgill> ty
[15:37] <jrtappers_> An eeror occured, please run package manager or apt-get to see what is wrong
[15:37] <dfgas> apt-get_install: correct
[15:37] <apt-get_install> jrtappers_: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English see threre
[15:38] <Miebster1> what could cause dd to only copy the first 34 megs of a file and then stop?  No matter what I put in for ibs, bs, or skip, the output file is always the same length, and never as long as it should be
[15:38] <NeoColossus1020_> guessing it needs a specific argument
[15:38] <kylescottmcgill> Miebster1: your not running out of space are you?
[15:38] <TakeItEZ> Miebster1: dd if=foo of=bar bs=24M count=1