[00:01] <oerheks> don't mix sources
[00:02] <oerheks> and don't add repos to the sources.list, use the sources.list.d folder to put it in
[00:02] <oerheks> but i guess that is useless, for an ubuntu docker vm
[00:03] <oerheks> docker create ubuntu:18.04
[00:03] <oerheks> or 19.10 ..
[00:05] <tempuser> I think I figured out what to do.
[00:05] <tempuser> The target is 16.04 actually (I'm not targeting 19.10, forgive me)
[00:06] <tempuser> RUN echo "deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:06] <tempuser> I'm dealing with exactly this line right now: https://github.com/googledatalab/datalab/blob/master/containers/base/Dockerfile#L36
[00:08] <tempuser> And then, just a few lines later in that same file, a reference to "apt-get source .." is made
[00:08] <IRCNew> So is my problem have to do with docker
[00:08] <IRCNew> from a different source
[00:08] <tempuser> And the docker build fails, saying some packages can't be authenticated
[00:08] <tempuser> https://github.com/googledatalab/datalab/blob/master/containers/base/Dockerfile#L55
[00:08] <tempuser> That "apt-get source ..." command fails.
[00:09] <tempuser> I'll pastebin the output somewhere.. just a sec..
[00:15] <IRCNew> To be clear the problem I'm having with unmask -.mount
[00:16] <IRCNew> is because "systemctl start docker" can't start because -.mount is masked.
[00:17] <IRCNew> so I'm not sure if anything was related to my probelm
[00:19] <tempuser> https://pastebin.com/ReVwxnfU
[00:57] <kreyren> help E: Unable to locate package libfuse3-dev
[01:02] <oerheks> disco-eoan https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libfuse3-dev
[01:03] <kreyren> oerheks, ty
[01:13] <MrPockets> Anyone around?
[01:14] <kreyren> MrPockets, pong
[01:15] <MrPockets> So I'm tryena change the lock screen purple to black. Not the first login screen, but once logged in, if I lock my session, it shows the custom wallpaper, but when I press ESC and am presented with the password screen to unlock, it's purple
[01:16] <MrPockets> 18.04.3 LTS
[01:18] <kreyren> MrPockets, referencing https://askubuntu.com/a/981619
[01:18] <kreyren> probably better way to explain it
[01:19] <kreyren> also propper spelling is trying not tryena
[01:19] <MrPockets> See thats whats got me scratch'n my noodle.
[01:19] <kreyren> MrPockets, elaborate?
[01:20] <MrPockets> i did that, and thoroughly re-read and verified
[01:20] <MrPockets> but alas, the lock screen is still purple.
[01:22] <kreyren> Sent me the content of  /etc/alternatives/gdm3.css
[01:22] <kreyren> also assuming it being part of /etc/alternatives i guess you have to invoke `update-alternatives`
[01:23] <daddy0> mrpockets this what i did: vi /etc/alternatives/gdm3.css
[01:23] <kreyren> `sudo update-alternatives --config gdm3.css`
[01:23] <daddy0> lockDialogGroup {background: #000000
[01:23] <daddy0> reboot
[01:24] <MrPockets> https://pastebin.com/XmJ3vzmb
[01:24] <MrPockets> yeah, logged out and bounced the workstation before asking  here.
[01:25] <MrPockets> also:  https://pastebin.com/gBH5Unip
[01:26] <kreyren> `* 1            /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css                                    5         manual mode`
[01:26] <kreyren> there is your issue
[01:26] <kreyren> i assume
[01:26] <MrPockets> What is the correct selection?
[01:26] <kreyren> `ls -la path/to/gdm3.css`
[01:27] <kreyren> is probably symlinked somewhere
[01:27] <MrPockets> ahh
[01:27] <MrPockets> Changing & testing (rebooting). Brb
[01:28] <MrPockets> actually, that looks correct.
[01:29] <MrPockets> https://pastebin.com/aqZDQBXV
[01:29] <IRCNew> so does anyone know what -.mount is even used for
[01:34] <kreyren> MrPockets, i assume that you made a syntax error in said .css file -> Lint it and report back
[01:36] <jpmh> IRCNew: for mounting file systems
[01:36] <IRCNew> well I can't stop it
[01:37] <IRCNew> I can't unmask it
[01:37] <IRCNew> which is what docker is complaining about
[01:37] <jpmh> IRCNew: what do you mean by "stop it"
[01:37] <IRCNew> systemctl stop -- -.mount
[01:37] <asarch> One stupid question: how do you install GNOME (the real GNOME) with the full of its features?
[01:38] <asarch> sudo apt-get install gnome gnome-extras doesn't work :-(
[01:38] <jpmh> IRCNew: why are you trying to stop it?
[01:39] <asarch> Is it safe to use tasksel?
[01:39] <IRCNew> My problem is when I try to "systemctl start docker" it give an error
[01:39] <IRCNew> Failed to start docker.service: Unit -.mount is masked.
[01:39] <oerheks> for the vanilla gnome; sudo apt install gnome-session https://vitux.com/how-to-install-vanilla-gnome-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[01:39] <guiverc> asarch, I suspect you're asking about vanilla gnome (you didn't specify a version, but https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/vanilla-gnome-desktop)
[01:39] <oerheks> but then you are on your own
[01:40] <asarch> Vanilla GNOME?
[01:40] <Bashing-om> !info ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <oerheks> there is no 'real gnome' all distros do something extra.
[01:41] <asarch> Oh
[01:41] <asarch> Thank you!
[01:41] <asarch> Thank you very much! :-)
[01:41] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:42] <jpmh> IRCNew: one more reason to avoid docker IM(never)HO - I suspect a partitioning issue - but no idea really
[01:43] <IRCNew> docker makes it really easy to setup services
[01:44] <IRCNew> Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.systemd1.UnitMasked: Unit -.mount is masked.
[01:44] <IRCNew> hmm I tried 'apt update'
[01:45] <oerheks>  Unit -.mount is masked. what is Unit -.mount ?
[01:45] <IRCNew> o dam
[01:45] <IRCNew> well I have gpart open
[01:46] <IRCNew> that might have been my problem
[01:47] <jpmh> IRCNew: remember I said partitions (LOL)
[01:48] <IRCNew> Well I just did not think of it till I read the error some people where getting when doing 'apt update' now I have to re install
[01:48] <IRCNew> since that is what I was trying to do
[02:00] <kreyren> how can i get `libfuse3-dev` on bionic ubuntu?
[02:04] <oerheks> there are no backports, build it yourself?
[02:04] <leftyfb> kreyren: why do you think you need it?
[02:05] <oerheks> it will need some newer gcc too, i guess
[02:10] <kreyren> leftyfb, since my project needs it and GitHub Actions are using only ubuntu-latest which translates to ubuntu bionic
[02:10] <cloaz> ubuntu is finally really taking off & getting somewhere ;D
[02:10] <kreyren> cloaz, no, it's pita to deal with
[02:10] <leftyfb> kreyren: bionic is not the latest
[02:11] <kreyren> leftyfb, it is according to GitHub
[02:11] <leftyfb> kreyren: Ubuntu 19.10 is the latest
[02:11] <kreyren> leftyfb, tell that to Microsoft then they are as always few years in history
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> please keep general statements out of #ubuntu kreyren cloaz
[02:12] <leftyfb> kreyren: what project exactly are you talking about?
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> use #ubuntu-discuss if you need to discuss a topic
[02:12] <kreyren> lotuspsychje, i try, but i'm triggered >.> and it's using all kinds of weird 3rd party repos..
[02:12] <kreyren> leftyfb, https://github.com/Kreyrock/Kreyrock/runs/326724002
[02:13] <kreyren> notice install dependencies
[02:13] <kreyren> and my C lang project is using `#include <fuse3/fuse.h>`
[02:14] <kreyren> ~~well i forked it and fixed it, it's made by someone else~~
[02:15] <leftyfb> kreyren: your own custom distribution?
[02:15] <kreyren> leftyfb, meta-distribution yes
[02:15] <oerheks> beta1
[02:15] <leftyfb> kreyren: ok, that is well beyond the scope of this support channel.
[02:16] <kreyren> leftyfb, that's why am i asking ubuntu-specific question in getting said package on ubuntu bionic
[02:16] <leftyfb> kreyren: fuse3 is not supported on bionic
[02:16] <oerheks> dependencies do not meet 18.04, only disco and eoan
[02:16] <kreyren> leftyfb, i know i need some workaround for that..
[02:17] <leftyfb> kreyren: ok, you are on your own for that. We can only support what is available in bionic (when supporting bionic)
[02:17] <kreyren> assuming package list http://dpaste.com/3DQR2JX.txt
[02:17] <oerheks> but it is not just fuse3-dev, there is a bunch more i think.
[02:18] <kreyren> leftyfb, can you support a method to get said package list to update to get expected package on the list as efficient as possible assuming delay in runtime?
[02:18] <oerheks> see https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/19.04/ubuntu-universe-amd64/fuse3_3.4.1-1_amd64.deb.html
[02:19] <leftyfb> kreyren: Sorry, but you are trying to shoe-horn us providing support for your customer distribution. Good luck
[02:19] <martiansoul> Can I make two clipboards in ubuntu?
[02:19] <leftyfb> custom*
[02:19] <martiansoul> I mean two clipboards containing different items. And using them separately?
[02:20] <kreyren> leftyfb, How is that shoe-horn it's not doing anything with my distro it's literally ubuntu checking files.. **NOTHING** from my distribution is executed in a way that would affect ubuntu's runtime
[02:20] <kreyren> oerheks, so i would still need to update on disco and assuming provided package list i would have to update on disco for it to work right?
[02:20] <kreyren> excluding sandboxing binaries i.e docker
[02:22] <oerheks> kreyren, yes, start with a 19.10 docker, i have no idea how to update that 18.04 docker instance, maybe that is impossible?
[02:22] <kreyren> oerheks, trying thanks for info
[02:22] <oerheks> martiansoul, there is gpaste, with multiple buffers gnome-shell-extensions-gpaste > https://askubuntu.com/questions/656860/how-to-get-multiple-clipboards
[02:31] <gbellinoz> Has anybody succeeded in getting new protocols registered with firefox via gconftool-2 (eg: tel://)
[02:35] <oerheks> it could be done with about:config https://askubuntu.com/a/969806
[02:56] <gbellinoz> Cool, thanks oerheks. The other answers like that indicated that that method didn't work any more. Will try.
[03:12] <gbellinoz> That's why I'm wondering if anybody's succeeded.
[04:06] <gbellinoz> Yeah, hrumph, didn't work.
[04:32] <kreyren> What is the proper sources.list for latest ubuntu?
[04:36] <tomreyn> you mean the one currently in development, the latest release, otr the latest lts?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> kreyren: https://gist.github.com/seveas/09139dc2ce7e46e37ca6647b193ac0c9 . But change the xenial instances to the target release name.
[04:36] <tomreyn> * "or", not "otr"
[04:37] <kreyren> tomreyn, latest lts
[04:37] <tomreyn> !lts
[04:37] <tomreyn> so the release name there is "bionic"
[04:38] <kreyren> edit: i need disco at least
[04:38] <tomreyn> you'll work it out
[04:44] <EdFletcherT137> anyone know the right CLI invocation to get the default Ubuntu desktop env (I'm honestly not sure what it's called) to start from VNC (e.g. what needs to be at the end of ~/.vnc/xstartup)?
[04:52] <kreyren> I'm updating ubuntu from bionic to disco and getting confllicts with perl-modules-5.22 (https://travis-ci.org/Kreyrock/Kreyrock/builds/618838657#L199) how should i resolve it?
[04:52] <kreyren> using `http://dpaste.com/1GXGD8Q.txt`
[04:53] <kreyren> not sure if using recommends is enough
[04:59] <Bashing-om> !info perl-modules-5.28 disco } kreyren
[04:59] <kreyren> Bashing-om, eh?
[04:59] <tomreyn> this is not travis ci support, but you should be aware that setting up apt sources and installing packages from !disco on !xenial is just going to break
[05:00] <Bashing-om> kreyren: perl-modules-5.22 will not exist in disco.
[05:00] <kreyren> Bashing-om, ah i see, thanks
[05:02] <kreyren> tomreyn, thanks i didn't notice it using xenial
[05:16] <tomreyn> https://github.com/Kreyrock/Kreyrock/blob/master/.travis.yml#L12 isn't going to work because https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/reference/linux/
[05:19] <tomreyn> oops, i mean to post this to #travis
[06:08] <juanonymous> greets, i have installed telnet on ubuntu18.04 vps.. but telnet command is still not found
[06:08] <juanonymous> inetd is active
[06:11] <tomreyn> juanonymous: show your output of installing and trying to run telnet
[06:11] <Ben64> how did you install telnet
[06:11] <tomreyn> !paste | juanonymous
[06:13] <juanonymous> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vYQMfD4d84/
[06:13] <tomreyn> telnetd is a telnet server, it's not the same as telnet, a telnet client
[06:14] <tomreyn> i.e., to get the telnet client, you need to: sudo apt update && sudo apt install telnet
[06:16] <juanonymous> aw
[06:16] <juanonymous> sorry
[06:16] <juanonymous> so i need to uninstall telnetd then?
[06:16] <juanonymous> what is the proper way to uninstall it, and also delete all of its directory?
[06:17] <tomreyn> sudo apt purge telnetd
[06:19] <juanonymous> thank you tomreyn
[06:20] <tomreyn> you're welcome, juanonymous
[06:32] <rabbitnightmare> how do I add my TV provider to the videos app?
[06:33] <rabbitnightmare> I don't want to use chrome every time I want to watch Spectrum
[06:37] <tatertots> sometimes people have to do things they don't want to do
[06:38] <tatertots> including but not limited to going to work
[06:38] <rabbitnightmare> tatertots, I just got home
[06:38] <rabbitnightmare> work sux
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !ot | rabbitnightmare
[06:40] <rabbitnightmare> lotuspsychje, would you happen to know how to add a cable provider to the videos app?
[06:40] <rabbitnightmare> pretty please
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> rabbitnightmare: elaborate please?
[06:41] <rabbitnightmare> I would like to add Spectrum to videos
[06:42] <rabbitnightmare> there is a channels button
[06:44] <rabbitnightmare> I add watch.spectrum.net and it just says "unable to play file"
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> rabbitnightmare: im not familliar with that service, but you could try to open the url with vlc or clementine
[06:46] <rabbitnightmare> https://bhtv.brighthouse.com/livetv is another url
[06:47] <rabbitnightmare> brighthouse is the local one
[06:47] <rabbitnightmare> it hasnt been bright house since before timewarner
[06:48] <rabbitnightmare> ok so I know they use flash
[06:48] <rabbitnightmare> what would I set the profile to
[06:49] <rabbitnightmare> yeah its not letting me stream
[06:49] <tatertots> might have to suck it up and use a browser
[06:49] <rabbitnightmare> thats fine and all but it doesn't let me use all the channels I am subscribed to
[06:50] <rabbitnightmare> once upon a time xbmc supported it
[06:50] <rabbitnightmare> I think XBMC is dead now
[06:53] <rabbitnightmare> oh well life goes on
[06:58] <SwedeMike> XBMC is called Kodi now.
[06:58] <SwedeMike> and it's alive and well
[06:59] <rabbitnightmare> I shall try it and see
[07:00] <rabbitnightmare> thank you that was what I needed
[07:00] <rabbitnightmare> that was incredibly easy to setup
[07:00] <rabbitnightmare> I wish other video players supported tuner streaming
[07:01] <rabbitnightmare> y'all might want to look into either including kodi by default in the future or add it to videos
[07:01] <rabbitnightmare> thank you SwedeMike
[07:02] <tatertots> rabbitnightmare: it only supports the HD Homerun tuner so ...don't get too excited
[07:02] <rabbitnightmare> tatertots, yeah no DVR or anything but I half expected it
[07:03] <rabbitnightmare> if I wanted to be a pirate not much is stopping me, but legal methods should be widely supported and adopted in Ubuntu
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> !ot | rabbitnightmare
[07:04] <rabbitnightmare> lotuspsychje, asking for legal media tuner streaming support is ot?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> rabbitnightmare: you are not asking ubuntu questions, but general chatting right now
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> pleas keep things divided in the proper channels
[07:05] <tatertots> if you stray too far from basic OS support someone will deem it OT so tread lightly
[07:05] <rabbitnightmare> thats fine and I am trying to be understanding, just a feature request
[07:05] <rabbitnightmare> with the advent of docsis 4.0 you are going to see more people like me asking about it
[07:06] <rabbitnightmare> have a good night
[07:06] <tatertots> most networks have their own android / iphone apps for subscribers
[07:06] <tatertots> YMMV
[07:12]  * linux_dr discovered himself banned from ##linux :-(
[07:14] <tatertots> congrats...it's a right of passage
[07:14] <el> it's because of irccloud
[07:14] <tatertots> you're a man now
[07:15] <el> free accounts are trivial to spin up, so they ban the irccloud free accounts. if you had a paid account you'd be fine. it's not personal.
[07:15] <linux_dr> I certainly can’t claim to be a newbie. I was building and using kernel modules before devfs was in wide use. Now I know it’s been replaced by udev that integrates with systemd:  that said, I can’t remember how to determine what is using a module that prevents modprobe -r from removing them. Can anyone refresh my memory?
[07:19] <tomreyn> lsmod, i guess
[07:21] <linux_dr> tomreyn: lsmod told me no other MODULES are using it, but I think either a process, or system.d’s current target is using it...
[07:23] <tomreyn> there doesn't seem to be a single / simple answer to this. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/448999/is-there-a-way-to-figure-out-what-is-using-a-linux-kernel-module
[07:23] <EdFletcherT137> totally guessing, but maybe `lsof` can show you if it has any file descriptors open?
[07:27] <linux_dr> I’m trying to install the correct versions of the virtual box guests additions (WITHOUT a reboot)... vboxvideo is giving me trouble... but, as X11 is not even INSTALLED yet, (no less running) I’m a bit mystified by this.
[07:28] <linux_dr> I’m trying to do this with ansible-local, so a reboot would be particularly inconvenient.
[07:29] <d0tsun7> why not a reboot linux_dr?
[07:30] <d0tsun7> ah, just read that last comment
[07:35] <linux_dr> d0tsun7: several reasons... 1) ansible-local runs on the box being manipulated, so there’s no graceful way to resume a ansible play 2) there is a way to automate a reboot during provisioning in vagrant (which I am using), but there is no way to make this conditional on the system state, 3) a reboot simply makes several things more difficult
[07:37] <d0tsun7> i follow ya
[07:37] <linux_dr> Also, as long as I’m able to shutdown X and restart it, i don’t see a reason I should NEED a reboot
[07:37] <d0tsun7> noice
[07:38] <linux_dr> d0tsun7: in THEORY. :-P
[07:39] <d0tsun7> right. lol
[07:43] <linux_dr> It is (for instance) possible that the kernel now uses vboxvideo for fbconsole, which is very unlikely to
[07:44] <linux_dr> Relinquish use of it
[07:50] <linux_dr> I have the download compile and install all beautifully automated... only switching out the loaded module is giving me greif
[08:52] <nikolam> I just wanted to say that not booting system if some of the items in /etc/fstab fail to mount, it total garbage.
[08:53] <nikolam> What if I removed a drive? Is that really a reason to stop loading absolutely fine working system?
[08:56] <Ben64> nikolam: there's an option to not wait
[08:56] <nikolam> ?
[08:57] <nikolam> I know but really.  Nope.
[08:58] <tatertots> makes sense to m
[08:58] <tatertots> me
[08:58] <nikolam> Makes sense in server, but on desktop?
[08:59] <tatertots> especially if the drives aren't local direct attached storage
[08:59] <Ben64> yeah, most people on desktop don't even put stuff in fstab
[09:02] <nikolam> And there is the thing about /etc/zfs/zpool.cache . One more reason for it o stop booting..
[09:02] <nikolam> And it's fs shouldn't even care for system config files..
[09:02] <nikolam> it's Linux implementation...
[09:03] <tatertots> you live and learn
[09:04] <tatertots> you can make what ever customizations you need to fit your use case
[09:05] <nikolam> Yeah, that's why it seems better not to run Linux at all, but some docker on top of lx zones on Triton and that's it.
[09:15] <tatertots> nikolam: uh i beleive docker and containers in genreal share the kernel and sub system of the Linux OS on the bare metal....right?
[09:16] <tatertots> so i don't believe that gets you out of anything
[09:21] <nikolam> tatertots, nope, no Linux kernel at all, other one is translating APIs. But it's offtopic.
[11:55] <thanzex> hi there! does gnome disk utility make a byte per byte image of a disk?
[12:09] <martiansoul> Hi. I want to develop two separate clipboards. Is it possible in ubuntu? even programatically?
[12:16] <sazawal> I have this bug in my recently installed gnome-shell for Ubuntu 19.04, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1822846 . Someone has mentioned that "This bug was fixed in the package gnome-shell - 3.32.1-1ubuntu1~19.04.1". My question is how do I apply this fix, or how do I upgrade my gnome-shell to this version. My gnome-shell version is GNOME Shell 3.32.0
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:40] <sazawal> I have this bug in my recently installed gnome-shell for Ubuntu 19.04, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1822846 . Someone has mentioned that "This bug was fixed in the package gnome-shell - 3.32.1-1ubuntu1~19.04.1". My question is how do I apply this fix, or how do I upgrade my gnome-shell to this version. My gnome-shell version is GNOME Shell 3.32.0
[12:42] <jeremy31> sazawal: in terminal>  sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell
[12:45] <nikolam> What's that "kworker/0:0+kacpid" that is eating 74% cpu time on 2-core 4-threads i3-2120 ?
[12:45] <nikolam> together with 62% for irq/9-acpi ..?
[12:47] <dionysus69> hey all, I am building a PC and I want to have a troubleshooting/emergency GPU in order to not to go blind. the CPU I am planning to buy doesn't have IGPU so which is the cheapest GPU you recommend that would work with linux kernel without any installation?
[12:47] <dionysus69> I am talking about cards that are ~20$
[12:47] <nikolam> I see them in top as 2 processes and 2 cores are used as I see in panel monitor (xfce4 panel), and showing as system usage on 2 virt. cores in top
[12:48] <nikolam> dionysus69, on AMD side, 7xxx series and newer, because it has GCN and is supported woth open drivers from AMD and will be supported in the future
[12:49] <felco> dionysus69 You may want to take a look into some older geforce, they work with the open source nvidia driver. And theres also the amd open source driver, but I don't know how it is going
[12:49] <nikolam> Nvidia all have great support for older cards, but driver are all proprietary.
[12:49] <felco> The open source driver supports gtx 750 IIRC
[12:50] <dionysus69> I just care if you just plugin and it works, I would prefer if its AMD though
[12:50] <nikolam> amd now plays smoothly and drivers you get are open and supported , but from GCN onwards, not for older.
[12:50] <felco> nice
[12:50] <nikolam> And Nvidia can work for older, just make sure to install proprietary drivers, if you want speed from it.
[12:51] <dionysus69> like this? https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Graphics-01308-01-109-C33457-00-113-C3340200-105/dp/B07QSCNNHY/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Radeon+HD+7000&qid=1575118270&s=electronics&sr=1-1
[12:55] <nikolam> dionysus69, well, not ecaxtly.. yopu need GCN one, this is still Terrascale..
[12:56] <nikolam> check also on AMD site
[12:56] <nikolam> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_7000_series
[12:58] <dionysus69> so it shouldn't mention terascale I guess xD
[12:59] <nikolam> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Core_Next#Graphics_Core_Next_1
[13:02] <nikolam> And here is my problem, with top on i3-2120 with large CPU usage..  https://pastebin.com/8f9bKbVe
[13:17] <stratus_ss> hello all. I am trying to track down a problem that Plex appears to be exposing. Since I don't know what package is causing the problem (networking is suspected), how do I go about documenting this process/getting to a bug report?
[13:24] <stratus_ss> I raised the issue with Plex: https://forums.plex.tv/t/specific-client-causes-system-plex-server-to-crash/498868/6
[13:24] <stratus_ss> they believe it is related to IP multi-cast
[14:11] <jpmh> I have a server that runs a number of services, including apache2 - from time to time apache2 is going off-line.  The apache2 log says that it received a SIGTERM.  I can not imagine where that is coming from - any suggestions as to how to get more info
[14:41] <geirha> Check the timestamps of those SIGTERMS, see if they may align with some cronjobs
[14:44] <martiansoul> hi. can I have two clipboards in Ubuntu?
[14:47] <jeremy31> martiansoul: I think there are, one will copy anything highlighted and can be pasted using middle mouse button
[14:47] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Hi
[14:48] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I want to install KDE. I did sudo tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[14:48] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I got
[14:48] <UndefinedIsNotAF> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:48] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I did sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:48] <UndefinedIsNotAF> sudo apt install -f
[14:48] <UndefinedIsNotAF> all seems fine
[14:49] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I still cant do the tasksel
[14:49] <UndefinedIsNotAF> why?
[14:49] <yeats_> UndefinedIsNotAF: can you pastebin the actual errors?
[14:49] <UndefinedIsNotAF> yeats: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/7KieFp96jFxVFDTWH0hHSA
[14:50] <UndefinedIsNotAF> nothing more
[14:50] <UndefinedIsNotAF> sudo apt --fix-broken install, did nothing
[14:50] <Agneees> I don't remember who told me that my system was a bit too weak for ubuntu, and that was probably the reason firefox was freezing, but it works better with xubuntu now, so thanks!
[14:51] <UndefinedIsNotAF> Agneees: yeah Xubuntu is a good stuff
[14:51] <yeats> UndefinedIsNotAF: there should be more info in /var/log/dpkg.log
[14:52] <UndefinedIsNotAF> I got nothing new in /var/log/dpkg.log at the time i do the tasksel . (i got old messages when i did upgrade)
[14:54] <yeats> UndefinedIsNotAF: without more information, there's nothing to advise - one or more of the packages you've installed has errored out during the preinst or postinst script and until you know which one and what the error is, there's little help anyone can provide
[14:55] <UndefinedIsNotAF> yeats: what can i grep on /var/log/dpkg.log to find the guilty package ?
[14:55] <yeats> UndefinedIsNotAF: if you have PPAs or nonstandard APT sources installed that can cause trouble
[14:55] <yeats> UndefinedIsNotAF: well, you said there were no messages in the log, right?
[14:55] <yeats> they should be obvious
[14:56] <yeats> UndefinedIsNotAF: sudo apt -f install *should* show more than what you pasted
[14:57] <yeats> there may be a debugging mode for tasksel too
[14:58] <jpmh> geirha: sorry it took so long to respond - since you did not include my id I did not get paged - that is a GREAT idea - sadly not the case here - this server has VERY FEW cron jobs
[14:58] <martiansoul> jeremy31: But a single copy makes for a single clipboard, right?
[14:59] <jeremy31> martiansoul: to use both you highlight and ctrl+c then you can highlight something else and then you can press middle mouse to paste the second and ctrl + v to paste the first
[15:00] <martiansoul> jeremy31: Oh. Thanks. Now I understand.
[15:01] <martiansoul> I also wanted to know - is it possible to write a script that would allow me to have maybe let's say 3 clipboards?
[15:01] <martiansoul> And in principle, if it is - how would that work
[15:01] <jeremy31> martiansoul: I have no idea but google might have something
[15:01] <martiansoul> jeremy31: okay.
[15:09] <akk> martiansoul: X itself has 3 selections (PRIMARY, SECONDARY which no one uses, and CLIPBOARD) so you could write something that lets you use all three.
[15:10] <akk> martiansoul: Or of course you can write a clipboard manager (like some desktops have) that uses PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD but also keeps their own records of what was in them.
[15:11] <akk> Really depends on what you want to do with the three clipboards (this is probably off-topic here, though).
[15:45] <nishttal> hello ppl.. I installed Ubuntu Server on a headless machine and I'm trying to launch GUI apps (like Pycharm) by exporting display to another UBuntu desktop
[15:46] <nishttal> but its complaining of "libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[15:46] <nishttal> any ideas why its expected X libs on the server when I'm exporting display
[15:56] <akk> It needs the X client libraries on the machine where you're running the app.
[15:56] <nishttal> akk my client is a Ubuntu 19.10 desktop so I'm assuming its got a full X installation
[15:57] <nishttal> server is headless (where I'm launching PyCharm)
[15:57] <akk> If you're running PyCharm on the server, that's where the libraries used by the app need to be.
[15:57] <nishttal> aah
[15:58] <akk> Though I'm surprised you were able to install PyCharm without the libraries; those should have been dependencies.
[15:58] <nishttal> akk, even when I'm exporting the display to the client?
[15:58] <nishttal> akk, pycharm is just a package that I untared
[15:59] <akk> Oh, well, you'll definitely need X client libraries.
[15:59] <akk> X can transport graphics primitives (put a rectangle here, put an 'a' there) across the net, but it still needs all the libraries that translate concepts like a button, a text input, an icon, to those primitives.
[16:00] <akk> You'll find that you need quite a lot of client libraries to run most X apps even if the server is on a remote display.
[16:06] <nishttal> makes sense
[16:06] <nishttal> thx
[16:29] <Apachez> also X is in reverse
[16:38] <N0Lif3> I got a prompt to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10 and now everything is broken. Thanks a lot
[16:40] <N0Lif3> https://i.imgur.com/HjynTQL.jpg
[16:41] <N0Lif3> what a joke. how the hell does bullcrap like this still happen with linux?
[16:43] <ioria> N0Lif3, are you simply angry or is it  your usual way to ask for help ?
[16:43] <compdoc> could be anything. bad hardware, some program or driver you added
[16:43] <N0Lif3> both
[16:43] <ioria> N0Lif3, see if you can boot in recovery, if not you need a livecd
[16:44] <ioria> N0Lif3, might be an out of space or the kernel hal broken
[16:44] <ioria> *half
[16:44] <mrninenine> hello
[16:46] <mrninenine> I am unable to execute apt-get -f install, as there are corrupt packages
[16:47] <mrninenine> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y7GHDvFQ2W/
[16:47] <mrninenine> This is the error I get upon executing apt-get -f install
[16:48] <mrninenine> Also, I am getting this error: [ Error reading lock file /etc/.environment.swp: Not enough data read ]
[16:48] <mrninenine> Please help
[16:51] <mrninenine> I don't want to reinstall again, as I would lose data. So, I really need to get it right. I thought of backing up data to a cloud, but rclone is also using temporary space on the root partition. Despite changing environment variables, I can't make it use /home partition where I have free space available.
[17:14] <yelof> mrninenine: try removing those php packages, or at least the half-installed json, then do fix-missing and sudo dpkg –configure -a . with any luck you can then re-install.  otherwise might need to purge when removing to re-do the configurations too.
[17:20] <stratus_ss> [repost from earlier]: hello all. I am trying to track down a problem that Plex appears to be exposing. Since I don't know what package is causing the problem (networking is suspected), how do I go about documenting this process/getting to a bug report?
[17:20] <stratus_ss> I raised the issue with Plex: https://forums.plex.tv/t/specific-client-causes-system-plex-server-to-crash/498868/6
[17:20] <stratus_ss> they believe it is related to IP multi-cast
[17:25] <Blendphys> Hello! Q wrt internet sharing: 2 PCs, one the server is connected via ethernet cable. Its second ethernet crad connects the client. To share Internet one has to follow advice 1 from here, right? https://askubuntu.com/questions/359856/share-wireless-internet-connection-through-ethernet
[17:26] <Blendphys> In my case, it doesn't work. Is it because it is not Wifiw as described on the latter internet site?
[18:14] <qwebirc95665> Hello everybody, i bought a new laptop and want to install ubuntu on it, but ubuntu dont detect a drive to install on
[18:15] <qwebirc95665> i know i have 2 ssd inside with 500gb space
[18:16] <ioria> qwebirc95665, check your SATA settings in bios to be set as 'ahci' and not 'raid'
[18:19] <qwebirc95665> i fond something in my bios named sata mode and its locked on RST Premium with Optaine
[18:19] <qwebirc95665> Product name is Nitro AN517-51
[18:19] <qwebirc95665> if this helps
[18:20] <ioria> qwebirc95665, no idea; maybe you need to set a supervisor password to unlock it, but no experience about it
[18:21] <qwebirc95665> i cant set a supervisor password
[18:21] <qwebirc95665> oh i can
[18:23] <qwebirc95665> ok i can set a supervisor password, but still cant change the sata mode
[18:24] <Mike48> I just removed an unused HD from my system (this is an internal drive, not a usb) in order to prepare for an upgrade.   I removed it's entry from fstab, shutdown, removed the drive, and booted.  Now it's got a failed systemd dependency for the drive.
[18:25] <Mike48> It's booting into emergency mode and won't continue. How can I fix this?
[18:28] <ioria> qwebirc95665, https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/579607/change-sata-mode-from-rst-to-ahci
[18:52] <dreamcat4> uhm quick quesitron is there a place where i can see staging of official ubuntu apt packages
[18:52] <dreamcat4> specifically i am wondering when they will next update the nvidia-driver-440 package
[18:53] <dreamcat4> from the current .26 beta --> to the newer .36
[18:53] <dreamcat4> since it's otherwise not building on 5.4.x kernels
[18:55] <oerheks> staging = proposed, that 440 is on next ubuntu 20.04 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-440/440.31-0ubuntu1/+publishinghistory
[18:55] <oerheks> so, join #ubuntu+1 for focal support please
[19:01] <Blendphys> Share wireless Internet connection through ethernet (https://askubuntu.com/questions/359856/share-wireless-internet-connection-through-ethernet). If it is not wireless but ethernet, is it same procedure or is it more complicated?
[19:02] <oerheks> same, without the wpa-supplicant stuff
[19:03] <Blendphys> oerheks, that means?
[19:03] <oerheks> one could use networkmanager for that, add connection; type ethernet; type ipv4; method shared to other computers
[19:04] <oxek> which firewall application do I use to allow only a specific application (e.g. Firefox) to connect to a specific outgoing port (e.g. 8080)?
[19:04] <oxek> can linux  even do that?
[19:04] <Blendphys> oerheks, okay, but it does not work ... ;-(
[19:05] <oxek> I want to deny all outgoing communication except for applications that I specifically allow, and configure the ports that these applications are allowed to connect to
[19:05] <Blendphys> May be, I have to do the steps described here (https://medium.com/@TarunChinmai/sharing-internet-connection-from-a-linux-machine-over-ethernet-a5cbbd775a4f) for the server
[19:05] <oxek> I can't get an answer online on whether ufw/firewalld can do that, or if I should be looking at some other thing
[19:06] <oerheks> Blendphys, 'on the server´  .. i would mention that in the first place
[19:07] <Blendphys> oerheks, yep, sorry, but do you agree with what is written on the latter internet page?
[19:09] <tatertots> oxek: you might need to give more thought to what exactly you're attempting to accomplish conceptually...a web browser (firefox) when you enter a url into the address bar "sends" a request to a webserver, the webserver then fulfills this request and send the requested info or page back to the browser that requested it
[19:10] <oerheks> i think for ubuntu 18.04 you need to use netplan for sharing networking
[19:10] <tatertots> oxek: it's a bi directional communication by default you see
[19:10] <oerheks> !netplan
[19:10] <tatertots> oxek: so sleep on it ...think about what you really want to accomplish
[19:11] <tatertots> oxek: more importantly give some thought to "why" you'd want to do this in the first place
[19:12] <oxek> tatertots: what I want is use lots of windows programs in wine that communicate with homeservers, I want to block those connections while allowing those apps connect to things I want
[19:12] <oxek> on windows, I would install *any* firewall application, and it would allow me to do that
[19:12] <oxek> on linux, I am lost
[19:13] <tatertots> oxek: if your firefox "browser" sends a request to a web server but cannot recieve the fulfilled request....you'll get a error more than likely
[19:13] <oxek> tatertots: errors are fine and expected, it does not crash firefox on windows
[19:14] <oxek> e.g. on firefox, I only allow ports 53,80,443 and all is well. This means that e.g. an extension cannot by default load advertisements from a server on port 9090.
[19:14] <oxek> I need an outgoing firewall because I will be using lots of untrusted software
[19:15] <Blendphys> oerheks, thanks a lot. Netplan seems to be already installed under Ubuntu ... so I will try out tomorrow ... .
[19:15] <Blendphys> Thanks, oerheks
[19:15] <oerheks> Blendphys, have fun!
[19:15] <oxek> I can already do that on windows using any firewall, and on android using AFWall+
[19:17] <tatertots> oxek: just invest the time in the learning curve and do the same with firewall in your Linux distribution...it probably will not be as "just click here" as you're used to, so you'll be doing some homework and trial and error...if you want instant gratification...you might consider staying with what you've already had success with
[19:18] <oxek> tatertots: I first need confirmation whether it is even possible to block outgoing traffic on linux, since neither documentation of ufw nor firewalld mentions that
[19:18] <oxek> more specifically, outgoing traffic per application
[19:18] <oxek> I know I can do iptables/nftables and block a specific outgoing port for the whole machine
[19:19] <oxek> but I need more granularity than that
[19:19] <oxek> e.g. allow firefox outgoing port 80/tcp, block malware.exe outgoing port 80/tcp
[19:19] <H3dn1ng> Is there any virtualisation solution that doeasn't require a special kernel? (performance is not important)
[19:21] <dreamcat4> thanks oerheks (sorry i didn't see your message earlier)
[19:23] <tatertots> oxek: good luck in your research and subsequent "trial and error" testing
[19:26] <Mike48> anyone able to help with a systemd dependency problem on a secondary hard drive?
[19:29] <Blendphys> oerheks, bad news: in my case both PCs use the NetworkManager renderer
[19:29] <Blendphys> :)
[19:29] <Blendphys> ... and I have Lubuntu 18.04
[20:18] <Kevin77300> Hello everyone !
[20:19] <Kevin77300> I'd need a little bit of support in order to solve an issue I have when resuming from standby
[20:20] <Kevin77300> I hear that my laptop is running, I sometime see the prompt for login and password, sometimes not. But I am always stuck on a blackscreen. The only way to solve this is to push the power button, and so I do see the Lubuntu splashscreen that says that my computer is turning off.
[20:20] <Kevin77300> I do not know where to look for this type of problem
[20:22] <qwebirc95665> Hello, i try to install ubuntu on my new laptop, but my oem made a raid 0 partition for windoof, gparted doesnt show the ssd's or the raid. how can i install ubuntu on this ssd?
[20:23] <Kevin77300> kevin@Kevin:~$ uname -a
[20:23] <Kevin77300> Linux Kevin 5.0.0-32-generic #34~18.04.2-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 10 10:36:02 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:23] <rabbitnightmare> so another bug, go into software updater, click other software, click "canonical partners" and it crashes the app
[20:24] <rabbitnightmare> "Sorry Ubuntu 19.10 has encountered an internal error"
[20:24] <rabbitnightmare> get your garbage distro under control
[20:25] <r2dgo> #join ubuntu-offtopic
[20:25] <rabbitnightmare> this is a massive support issue I am able to recreate no matter what I do, whether it be in vm or on metal
[20:27] <Kevin77300> rabbitnightmare : I'm pretty sure this type of sentence is really helpful for developers and support, refering to a garbage distro. It's always a pleasure to support people like you
[20:29] <rabbitnightmare> Kevin77300, well then stop releasing an unstable mess
[20:30] <qwebirc95665> how can i wipe a disc, that gparted cant see?
[20:31] <r2dgo> qwebirc95665: Can lsblk see it?
[20:31] <Kevin77300> rabbitnightmare : That is called entropy :)
[20:32] <qwebirc95665> @r2dgo no
[20:33] <r2dgo> qwebirc95665: Did you make sure it is connected properly?
[20:33] <qwebirc95665> yes, i can boot from it
[20:34] <Kevin77300> rabbitnightmare : You were talking about DOCSIS yesterday night. But there are many variants of video platforms with tons of codecs, bitrate, encapsulation, and so on. It is just impossible to support this for an amount of distro explosing over the last years. That's why it is a mess. But that the same with all information technologies, even Social Networks. How many platforms do you have to communicate with other humans ? It is just not
[20:34] <Kevin77300> possible !
[20:34] <r2dgo> boot what from it?
[20:34] <qwebirc95665> @r2dgo windows
[20:34] <qwebirc95665> @r2dgo i dont want that malware on my SSD
[20:36] <r2dgo> that is weird. gparted should be able to detect a bootable disk.
[20:36] <qwebirc95665> they are 2 SSD's in somethink like a raid 0
[20:36] <r2dgo> ooh. you have a hardware raid controller?
[20:37] <qwebirc95665> i cant edit sata mode in bios
[20:37] <qwebirc95665> yes
[20:37] <qwebirc95665> i guess
[20:37] <r2dgo> and you want to format both of them?
[20:37] <qwebirc95665> i want to remove windows and have a ubuntu partition and a debian partition
[20:37] <qwebirc95665> each one on his own SSD
[20:39] <qwebirc95665> @r2dgo its less about format and more about breaking that raid
[20:40] <qwebirc95665> but i think a format should fix the problem
[20:41] <r2dgo> how did you create the raid?
[20:41] <qwebirc95665> i didnt
[20:41] <qwebirc95665> OEM did
[20:41] <qwebirc95665> i bought that thing yesterday
[20:42] <oerheks> change to ahci, windows would probably boot, if it is not UEFI
[20:42] <rabbitnightmare> ok so let me try to be nice about this, why is 19.10 such a buggy mess? I can't delete partitions off of thumb drives
[20:42] <rabbitnightmare> it just says error deleting partition
[20:42] <oerheks> it is not.
[20:43] <rabbitnightmare> like nothing I want to accomplish for my daily workflow is working
[20:43] <qwebirc95665> i dont have an option in bios to change to AHCI
[20:43] <oerheks> qwebirc95665, check the vendor for a bios update?
[20:43] <rabbitnightmare> cfdisk
[20:43] <qwebirc95665> yes i just installed the newest version
[20:43] <rabbitnightmare> oops
[20:43] <oerheks> else, no go .. i like to know what machine does not have raid/ahci options
[20:43] <qwebirc95665> 1.10 => 1.23
[20:43] <qwebirc95665> Acer Nitro 5 AN517-51
[20:43] <oerheks> oke
[20:44] <r2dgo> can you do 'lspci -vv | grep -i raid'
[20:44] <rabbitnightmare> I am not comfy in cli
[20:44] <rabbitnightmare> can you guys PLEASE make Ubuntu idk usable
[20:44] <oerheks> ah, pretty new machine .. a whole topic on https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2426422
[20:44] <rabbitnightmare> error after error after error
[20:45] <rabbitnightmare> I am trying to be very nice but I am quite irritated that the dell that I purchased with Ubuntu can't do basic tasks
[20:45] <oerheks> rabbitnightmare, > change bios to ahci, windows would probably boot, if it is not UEFI
[20:45] <rabbitnightmare> it didnt come with windows
[20:45] <rabbitnightmare> it came with ubuntu friend
[20:45] <oerheks> rabbitnightmare, and stop the rant, it makes volunteers not read you
[20:46] <rabbitnightmare> ok so I am having the following show stopping bugs, 1) disks for some reason refuses to delete partitions from thumb drives
[20:46] <qwebirc95665> 00.17.0 RAID bus controller
[20:46] <ioria> qwebirc95665, did you read the link i posted you  ?
[20:46] <rabbitnightmare> 2) software update crashes when trying to enable extra repositoroes
[20:46] <qwebirc95665> intel corp. 82801 sata controller
[20:47] <rabbitnightmare> I can get no work done
[20:47] <qwebirc95665> RAID mode rev 10
[20:47] <r2dgo> qwebirc95665: so you do have a hardware raid controller
[20:47] <rabbitnightmare> all of the servers REQUIRE me to use thumb drives
[20:47] <rabbitnightmare> I need to image those
[20:48] <rabbitnightmare> Ubuntu is wasting me time which is costing me money, a LOT of money
[20:49] <rabbitnightmare> maybe yall don't care in freetard land but I am going to return this piece of shit to dell and say fuck Linux for life
[20:49] <rabbitnightmare> fix your shit
[20:49] <EdFletcherT137> rabbitnightmare: why are you being so vitriolic towards the *volunteers* in this channel trying to help you recitfy a mistake *you* clearly made. if you are not comfortable with linux and the CLI, why on God's green earth did you buy that machine in the first place?!
[20:49] <oerheks> r2dgo, i read that this machine indeed does not give ahci options..
[20:50] <ioria> oerheks, it's hidden
[20:50] <qwebirc95665> ioria yes
[20:50] <qwebirc95665> r2dgo i guess so
[20:50] <ioria> qwebirc95665,  boot with F2 to get to the BIOS, and go to main menu, and press Ctrl + S. SATA field will reappear. Then change accordingly
[20:50] <oerheks> ioria, ah, wait, set password on bios, then the option appears?
[20:50] <ioria> oerheks, not exactly
[20:51] <tatertots> lol
[20:52] <oerheks> ah nice, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2429951&p=13900969#post13900969
[20:52] <qwebirc95665> i pressed crtl s and it gave me a sata mode button (i never saw something in a bios, like i am in the bios, i probably want to change stuff) and are now on AHCI. so the raidcontroller is now disabled and i have 2 SSD0s?
[20:53] <oerheks> 2 m2 in raid0, sounds plausible
[20:54] <ioria> qwebirc95665, disable secure boot and boot the ubuntu livecd
[20:54] <qwebirc95665> ok i booted ubuntu live
[20:54] <qwebirc95665> i opened gparted
[20:54] <ioria> qwebirc95665, then open gparted
[20:54] <qwebirc95665> and it gave me an error
[20:54] <ioria> qwebirc95665, what error ?
[20:55] <qwebirc95665> Invalid argument during seek for read on /dev/nvme1n1
[20:55] <ioria> qwebirc95665, does gparted see the diskas ?
[20:55] <ioria> *disks
[20:55] <qwebirc95665> not jet, another error
[20:56] <qwebirc95665> the backup GPT table is corrupt, but the primary aappears ok, so that will be used
[20:56] <qwebirc95665> nice 2 disks
[20:56] <ioria> qwebirc95665, i think you're on the right track, i have to leave; good luck
[20:56] <qwebirc95665> thanks you
[20:57] <qwebirc95665> create partition table, i have many options, what should i choose?
[20:57] <oerheks> GPT
[20:58] <oerheks> the old mbr would give a limit of 4 primairy partitions
[20:59] <qwebirc95665> i could try atari or amiga, and install ubuntu on it, it seems like fun :-P
[21:28] <johnjay> i'm in ubuntu 18.04 and i can't use Control-Alt-o or Control-Alt-p anywhere
[21:28] <johnjay> is it defined as a shortcut or something and if so where?
[21:29] <johnjay> i don't see it in any configurations or menus like Settings->Devices->Keyboard
[21:33] <johnjay> hrm. i think clipit is at fault, nevermind
[22:30] <qwebirc95665> hello, i want to setup ubuntu on my new laptop currently alongside of windows. 1. What partitions should i create for ubuntu (home, boot, swap?) and can i install the bootloader on the ubuntu disk and still boot both, or do i have to make the bootloader on the windows one?
[22:34] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   how big is your HDD?
[22:35] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:  but partitions wise, yes, it'll be home, root and swap, though, I use the root partition for $HOME, so I only have root and swap :)
[22:36] <jeremy31> qwebirc95665: You only really need 1 partition
[22:37] <qwebirc95665> its an M.2 500 GB
[22:37] <qwebirc95665> i want the lvm crypted thing
[22:37] <_Sym_> the default now is a swap file not a swap partition.
[22:37] <qwebirc95665> oh nice
[22:38] <correct> I have a script that i have placed in user-data for an ec2.  Problem I'm having is enableing networking.  It works intermittently.  Essentially, I have a cloudformation template that will spin 20 nodes and the user-data will install and configure a few things. the networking portion of script works intermittently
[22:38] <qwebirc95665> wait, do i need a /boot?
[22:38] <qwebirc95665> since the rest should be crypted
[22:39] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   /boot will be in the root partition
[22:39] <qwebirc95665> but the root partition should be encrypted
[22:39] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:    and the bootloader goes, well Grub will be in the "device" not a partition, so it'll be /dev/sda or /dev/sdc or such, but not /dev/sda3
[22:43] <qwebirc95665> ok i have now a /dev/mapper/nvme1n1p1_crypt , i think thats the right place to install ubuntu. what device do i have to choose for the boot loader? the ubuntu drive or the windows drive?
[22:44] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   haven't done LVM myself, not yet, so not sure on the mapping it goes with
[22:45] <qwebirc95665> without lvm, would be bootloader go to the existing windows partition, or the ubuntu one?
[22:46] <compdoc> qwebirc95665, why not let ubuntu do it for you, then you can study the layout and do it againmanually
[22:46] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:    without LVM, it goes to a device, not a partition, so goes to /dev/sda but not /dev/sda3
[22:47] <qwebirc95665> and in the case of 2 disks (2 devices) one with windows and one new that ubuntu wants to install on, on what device would it go?
[22:47] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   now, windows may well be installed on /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 and ubuntu may be at say /dev/sda5, but the bootloader will reside at /dev/sda
[22:48] <qwebirc95665> ./dev/sda is my 3th drive, a hdd
[22:50] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   well, without an LVM I know it'll go to a device, if say the M.2 is /dev/sdd and you install linux to /dev/sdd1, then you can just drop the bootloader at /dev/sdd, bearing in mind that the partition that boots is the "active partition"
[22:51] <bprompt> and as you'd already know, "active" is just a flag you can set on any partition
[22:56] <qwebirc95665> i have : /dev/mvme0n1 as device with /dev/mvme0n1p2 for windows boot manager and /dev/mvme0n1p4 for the windows file system, on the other side /dev/mvme1n1 as device for ubuntu with /dev/mvme1n1p1 for unknown (=>lvm)    for dualboot, do i use /dev/mvme0n1 or /dev/mvme1n1 ? (i'm unsure if it has to be on the existing windows partition to see winows and integrate it in the grub, or because my laptop would boot 0n1 always first
[22:56] <qwebirc95665> and would only boot windows every time, or can i have the bootloader on the ubuntu drive, and still have a functioning system without the windows partition)
[23:07] <Onepamopa> Q: any idea why I'm getting Error while loading /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml  W/O any tabs in the config ? Spaces only....
[23:08] <oerheks> sudo netplan try # should show you what is wrong?
[23:09] <Onepamopa> shows only the error message, tho I figured out why there was an error...
[23:09] <Onepamopa> a few spaces
[23:10] <oerheks> 2 space, 4 space, 6 space .. https://askubuntu.com/a/1145356
[23:10] <Onepamopa> yeah
[23:55] <jnj> Hey guys, has anyone every tried to connect to fastmail's webdav/ftp file storage using nautlius?


[19:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: that critical bug was a regression in the latest dpkg release
[19:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yakkety only, but serious
[19:18] <Unit193> Eg, debian #830267.
[19:19] <tsimonq2> thanks Unit193, linking to the open bug report


[02:49] <Logan> nacc: you might be interested in Bug 1571534 (not that you don't probably already have enough on your plate :P)
[16:54] <abhishek> hi
[16:54] <abhishek> Stuck at this bug, please help. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428
[20:54] <infinity> xnox: Grr, you didn't commit your d-i upload.
[20:54]  * infinity amends history a bit.
[22:28] <ScottK> Apparently lots of people would like to do that today.
[22:52] <sladen> mmmm
[23:08] <teward> Pharaoh_Atem: wrt https://launchpad.net/bugs/1571436 it's a documentation-example-shipped NGINX config that doesn't work out of the box.  Nothing PHP in the repos that I'm aware of default-installs to an nginx directory
[23:08] <teward> ssory for a real late reply to your ping, I saw nacc followed up but I got busy :p
[23:47] <infinity> ScottK: I'm keen on rolling back 2016 en toto.  It's not been a winner so far.