[00:00] <yano> how many channels have you tested?
[00:00] <yano> i should say, "buffers" really
[00:02] <yano> i'm currently in 137 buffers in WeeChat and it's using 119MB
[00:02] <yano> *118MB
[00:02] <yano> but i'm also running about 10 different scripts too
[03:00] <canthus13> anyone around?
[03:06] <yano> yep
[03:06] <yano> what's up?
[03:07] <Unit193> Howdy.
[03:15] <Cheri703> o/
[03:16] <canthus13> Can someone ssh -p 443 canthus13.com and tell me if it gets refused?
[03:16] <Unit193> ssh: connect to host canthus13.com port 443: Connection refused
[03:17] <canthus13> Weird.
[03:17] <canthus13> I may have to completely power cycle my router. :/
[03:17] <canthus13> I dun want to..   And I don't like to either, you using dd-wrt?
[03:18] <canthus13> Yep.
[03:19] <canthus13> I've got 443 forwarded appropriately... and the ssh server is listening on 443... I can get to it from inside my network.
[03:19] <canthus13> yeah. My wife's, my girlfriends, mine, and my wife's boyfriend's.
[03:25] <canthus13> Cheri703: How's you?
[03:26] <Cheri703> doing alright
[08:02] <Unit193> http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy313/alsfkwmioen/lost.jpg :D
[11:04] <andygraybeal> morning
[11:58] <andygraybeal>   Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]

[13:13] <andygraybeal> okay it worked a minute later for me
[14:16] <paultag> swag
[14:16] <paultag> hey all
[18:55]  * MaskedDriver is now away - Reason : Meeting
[20:04]  * MaskedDriver is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 8 minutes 21 seconds
[20:08] <Unit193> Don't really announce scripts for away are all that needed...
[20:14] <MaskedDriver> didn't realize I had that on. sorry
[20:15] <canthus13> Unit193: ...that sentence made no sense.
[20:16] <Unit193> +think, and yes it sure didn't, congrats to him for getting it. :P
[20:16] <MaskedDriver> canthus13 I knew what he meant. Got people yelling at me in other channels too
[20:16] <canthus13> Heh.
[20:16] <MaskedDriver> using a new IRC client that had them on by default. How often do you think to look at that when you log in to a server?
[20:17] <canthus13> true.
[20:17]  * canthus13 likes irssi, sticks with it. :)
[20:17] <MaskedDriver> last time I checked, it didn't have the best Windows support ;)
[20:18] <canthus13> AH.
[20:18] <Unit193> I've seen cases where using an away nick actually makes sense though. :P
[20:18] <canthus13> I just run it on my server and use putty to get to it from work.
[20:19] <MaskedDriver> I'm testing out ZNC so I want to connect to servers from different clients so I figured I'd install one here
[20:22]  * canthus13 nods.
[20:38] <MaskedDriver> kinda nervous about the data usage though looks like it used 75MB in the last 24 hours so that's not too bad
[20:39] <MaskedDriver> wait wait wait.. nvm, I wish I could read
[20:39] <MaskedDriver> 2.54MB
[20:39] <MaskedDriver> I thought one of the fields said 51MB, it's 51KiB
[20:39] <canthus13> heh.
[20:40] <canthus13> Running over your cell phone?
[20:40] <MaskedDriver> no, Uverse with it's 250GB cap
[20:41] <MaskedDriver> but I also have tons of other services running. I use a lot of data
[20:41] <canthus13> that 250GB cap is really hard to hit unless you torrent a lot or use netflix. :P
[20:41] <MaskedDriver> I HBOGo and Hulu and YouTube like a mad man
[20:41]  * canthus13 does too, has a 350GB cap, usually runs around 175GB/mo.
[20:41] <canthus13> that'd do it.
[20:41] <MaskedDriver> web server, exchange server, etc...
[20:41] <MaskedDriver> I have a lot going on
[20:41] <canthus13> Even fairly heavy netflix users are running around 200GB.
[20:42] <canthus13> yeah. I've got a web server, mail server (exchange? You must be some sort of masochist...), shell server running.
[20:47] <MaskedDriver> lol.. I do win sysadmin stuff at work and I was least knowledgeable in that so I used my Technet sub to get it all set up
[20:47] <MaskedDriver> I really enjoy it
[20:48] <canthus13> Ah. I despise exchange. :(
[20:48] <MaskedDriver> canthus13: I despise the licensing
[20:48]  * canthus13 would rather argue with postfix. once it's set up, it works.
[20:48] <canthus13> Exchange doesn't scale very well IME.
[20:48] <MaskedDriver> not at all
[20:49] <MaskedDriver> but in an enterprise situation, it works like a dream with the calendar, contact, etc... sharing
[20:49] <canthus13> True.
[20:49] <MaskedDriver> one solution instead of having to use multiple solutions
[20:49] <MaskedDriver> for my own private dev stuff, it's hardcore overkill
[20:49] <MaskedDriver> really no reason for me to use it, but since I have it, I do
[20:49] <canthus13> Heh.
[20:49] <canthus13> Speaking of postfix.. I need to get that installed and set up again.
[20:50] <MaskedDriver> lol talk to you in 6 hours ;)
[20:50] <MaskedDriver> don't forget to set your away messages
[20:52] <MaskedDriver> I've got a helmet you can borrow for when you start smashing your head against your desk lol
[20:52] <MaskedDriver> but yeah, like you said, once it's set up it works great... setting it up is about the most annoying thing in the world. I use it for my outgoing mail on my webserver and stuff like that
[20:54] <canthus13> It took me forever to get it to accept mail from off the server...
[20:56] <MaskedDriver> I was having the biggest problem with all mail servers... then I learned that port 25 was blocked by my ISP ;)
[20:57] <MaskedDriver> luckily the fact that you know what port 25 is and why you want it open is enough argument for them to open it up for you
[21:00] <canthus13> We do it simply. If you know what it is, you'll probably want a static IP. we only block it on dynamic IPs.
[21:04] <MaskedDriver> how often to you give out static IP to residential customers? lol
[21:04] <MaskedDriver> trust me, I've asked
[21:04] <MaskedDriver> I wanted a couple of them, actually
[21:05] <MaskedDriver> that way I could have 443 going to my web server AND my windows box instead of working around it by changing port numbers around and doing vhost and dns redirects
[21:06] <canthus13> We do. 20 bucks a month.
[21:06] <MaskedDriver> :(
[21:06] <MaskedDriver> you in Michigan?
[21:06] <canthus13> up to 3, I think.
[21:06] <MaskedDriver> cause I am
[21:06] <canthus13> We're in temperance/bedford/ottawa lake.
[21:07] <canthus13> right across the state line from Toledo.
[21:07] <MaskedDriver> ah
[21:07] <MaskedDriver> I'm up north of detroit
[21:09] <MaskedDriver>  time to go home
[21:09] <MaskedDriver> catch you on the flip side
[21:10] <canthus13> later.
[22:04] <canthus13> woo.
[22:04]  * canthus13 has webmail up and running now.
[22:05] <Unit193> Nice, what are you using?
[22:15] <canthus13> squirrelmail.
[22:17] <canthus13> and dovecot/postfix.
[22:17] <canthus13> still need to get postfix to accept mail from off-server... :/


[13:43] <govatent> hey guys. I wanted to share the sad news. Due to lack of funding, the planet linux cafe in miami is now closed for good. :(
[14:00] <munz> no! :( that really sucks govatent.


[08:08] <doko> coreycb: swift ftbfs in -proposed
[08:24] <tarzeau_> is the swift src pkg available to test?
[08:24] <tarzeau_> i supposed that's swiftlang?
[09:56] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I slightly remember that there was a discussion about mysql retaining user set permission/ownerhip on paths already
[09:57] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I can't find it :-/ but it would be what I need to dup a new bug on
[09:57] <cpaelzer> thought it was about ucf or some other infra to usually cover that
[10:01] <joelkraehemann> hi all
[10:02] <joelkraehemann> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=882513
[10:02] <joelkraehemann> we actually decided to not run the integration tests
[10:02] <cpaelzer> xnox: ^^
[10:03] <joelkraehemann> so I didn't take care much about the functional-system-tests.mk.am file
[10:03] <joelkraehemann> but the patch provided fixes the issues
[10:04] <joelkraehemann> about the missing line in configure.ac
[10:04] <joelkraehemann> well I would love to know who runs the integration tests :)
[10:06] <joelkraehemann> note the VM should have a soundcard
[10:07] <cpaelzer> rather unlikely to have real sound passed through
[10:07] <cpaelzer> joelkraehemann: I highlighted xnox above as he was the one doing the report
[10:07] <cpaelzer> joelkraehemann: thanks for your response and fixes already
[10:08] <cpaelzer> as xnox has th context on this it is best if he picks that up once he is around
[10:09] <joelkraehemann> you could modify the config passed to the tests
[10:09] <joelkraehemann> and use pulseaudio
[10:09] <joelkraehemann> I personally prefer ALSA
[10:10] <joelkraehemann> I think there is a null device available in ALSA
[10:10] <joelkraehemann> but this is up to you
[10:14] <joelkraehemann> Each test provides its very own config file
[10:14] <joelkraehemann> http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/gsequencer.git/tree/ags/test/X/ags_functional_editor_workflow_test.c?h=1.1.x#n67
[10:27] <joelkraehemann> I will provide a patch that makes use of pulse backend
[11:13] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I'm not sure what you mean. Can you expand on that and see if it prompts my memory please?
[11:14] <cpaelzer> rbasak: it was about something like "I had set custom perm/owner on /varlib/mysl ..." and want to keep that on updates
[11:15] <cpaelzer> rbasak: in that was a suggestion how to do so but it was neglected for having more potential trouble than benefit
[11:15] <cpaelzer> rbasak: today I had a similar bug, but without the suggestion, so I wanted to dup or link it
[11:15] <cpaelzer> all my searches didn't find what my partial memory remembers
[11:16] <cpaelzer> rbasak: do not spend too mcuh time on it, I think I triaged it well without
[11:16] <cpaelzer> it just would have been a good match
[11:23] <rbasak> OK. I don't recall a specific bug, so we can leave it as you've already handled it :)
[12:05] <xnox> joelkraehemann, thanks a lot!i'll try applying all that, and will check if i can get the tests going. We currently have capacity to run integration tests on amd64, i386, arm64, ppc64el, s390x VMs and containerized armhf.
[12:05] <joelkraehemann> xnox: note I just do additional package
[12:06] <joelkraehemann> currently only enumerated alsa card ids are supported
[12:06] <joelkraehemann> gsequencer-1.1.5 shall provide improvements
[12:24] <joelkraehemann> xnox: I try to get different isolation level running
[12:24] <joelkraehemann> "isolation-container"
[12:43] <coreycb> doko: rebuilding. looks like breakage in python-eventlet that's since been synced.
[12:47] <buxy> cyphermox: hey, can you point me to the commit or code section that changed in busybox that explains why environment variables with "/" coming from the kernel are no longer accepted?
[12:48] <buxy> (moved the question to #debian-boot on OFTC since you are there too)
[15:22] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: o/ I noticed you've done some transparency-related uploads of gnome-terminal (relatively) recently, so I thought I'd bring these bugs to your attention: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1726262 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1733369
[16:26] <Laney> hi Odd_Bloke, thanks for pinging, I'm away next week so won't be able to look until after that I'm afraid. If it's important to you you can ask Trevinh_o if he has time maybe.
[16:29] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: No worries, thanks for letting me know!  If I have a bit of down time, I'll bug them. :)
[16:57] <joelkraehemann> xnox: currently I am running https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-multimedia/gsequencer.git/tree/debian/tests/ags-integration-test


[09:35] <laga> hum. i wonder if canonical could throw some money at the aufs guy. he's apparently unemployed and he just sent a request for donations to the aufs-users mailing list.
[09:35] <laga> of course, gregkh won't count that towards upstream contributions ;)
[12:17] <balbir> Hi, Looking for some help with whom to ask about enabling a kernel option/feature (bugzilla?)
[12:50] <abogani> balbir: Kernel team mailing-list should be the right place.
[14:03] <TheMuso> ./c
[14:43] <balbir> abogani: Thanks, I was away for a while, just saw your response
[15:11] <munckfish> smb_tp: Is linux-ports-meta going to be "in" the beta?
[15:23] <Ben1> rtg, amitk, smb_tp, cking: fyi, while working on crashdump, I totally boogered my hd, so I
[15:23] <Ben1> 'm on a tmp system till I get things sorted out
[15:24] <rtg> BenC: sucks to be you :)
[15:24] <cking> BenC: owch. virtualbox is your friend
[15:24] <BenC> cking: vbox kernel module is crashing under 2.6.27 :/
[15:24] <munckfish> rtg: With whats included in linux-ports now I'd be happy to upload it in order to catch the beta.
[15:25] <munckfish> if that's possible.
[15:25] <rtg> BenC: ^^^ thats a universe package, right?
[15:25] <cking> BenC: really? I'm running virtualbox 2.0.2 on 2.6.27-3 fine yesterday
[15:25] <BenC> rtg: no
[15:26] <BenC> cking: 64-bit?
[15:26] <cking> yep. with all the fancy virtual assistance modes on too
[15:27] <cking> ..ah.. let's clarify: 64 bit host, 32 bit virtual
[15:27] <rtg> BenC: ok, I've never built the ports package on the buildd. Is there anything special about it, or is it just a straightforward upload to ubuntu?
[15:27] <BenC> cking: I was using the kernel module source in the repo and the module would crash on load
[15:28] <munckfish> Does anyone konw anything about linux-ports-meta and whether it's likely to be included?
[15:28] <munckfish> I believe people are still having to manually select kernel to use on install
[15:28] <BenC> rtg: straight forward...same as regular kernel
[15:28] <BenC> I thought smb did the linux-ports-meta
[15:29] <rtg> BenC: HE MAY HAVE. i'LL GET IT SORTED OUT.
[15:29] <rtg> whoops.
[15:29] <smb_tp> munckfish, BenC I did the preparations but I am missing the step to get it into beta
[15:29] <cking> ..I just downloaded the VirtualBox 2.0.2 deb file (Hardy version), downloaded the kernel headers and installed the deb file - and I'm running Alpha 6 32 bit server fine in it
[15:29] <smb_tp> rtg, No need to shout. I hear. :)
[15:29] <rtg> har, har
[15:30] <smb_tp> rtg, Who would I have to bug to get linux-ports-meta into the beta
[15:31] <rtg> smb_tp: me or BenC I guess.
[15:31] <smb_tp> rtg, Ohhh! >:-)
[15:31] <BenC> since my gpg key is in an unknown state, that means rtg
[15:31] <rtg> smb_tp: if you wanna package the ports kernel and meta, just lemme know when your done.
[15:33] <smb_tp> munckfish, You had worked on the ports source?
[15:33] <munckfish> smb_tp: yes
[15:33] <munckfish> added some PS3 specific changes
[15:34] <smb_tp> munckfish, So that is all in the repo now and we could try to package that
[15:34] <BenC> smb_tp, rtg: For ports, I would follow an always-bump-abi upload rule
[15:34] <munckfish> smb_tp: yep
[15:34] <munckfish> BenC: may I ask why?
[15:35] <munckfish> is that to prevent wasting time?
[15:35] <rtg> munckfish: makes it easier to revert to a previous kernel.
[15:35]  * BenC wonders whos long brown hair he keeps pulling out of his pocket
[15:35] <munckfish> ah ok I see
[15:35] <rtg> BenC: too much info.
[15:35] <laga> BenC: was she pretty?
[15:36] <laga> cops usually have short hair, so we can rule that out.
[15:36] <BenC> I surely hope so
[15:36] <BenC> hehe
[15:36] <munckfish> BenC: I thought you had long hair?
[15:36] <BenC> munckfish: not since a year ago
[15:36] <munckfish> http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/BenCollins/
[15:36] <munckfish> ah ok
[15:36] <munckfish> getting less rock'n'roll?
[15:37]  * munckfish used to have long hair too and knows what it feels like to lose it
[15:37] <BenC> getting more single and need to be clean cut :)
[15:37] <BenC> I saved the pony tail in a bag....wanna buy it?
[15:38] <rtg> man, thats just gross.
[15:38] <laga> 7msg BenC i'll buy it for rtg
[15:39] <BenC> rtg: you know you offered me $20 for it :)
[15:39] <BenC> I'm pretty sure I've thrown it away by now
[15:39] <rtg> huh, on that note I think I'll go make some breakfast. biab.
[15:39] <BenC> just took longer to let go of it than it did to cut it off
[15:39] <laga> so, would canonical like to donate to the aufs author? (no, it's not met)
[15:39] <laga> s/met/me/
[15:40] <BenC> laga: if he's willing to do a full on merge to upstream, maybe
[15:40] <BenC> but not anytime soon
[15:40] <laga> BenC: upstream won't accept unionfs or aufs AFAIK
[15:41] <BenC> laga: not much point then :/
[15:41] <laga> but yeah, i was just wondering if canonical had a policy on such things. i didn't mean to spam the channel ;)
[15:41] <BenC> that would be the gain for us, not having to maintain it out-of-tree
[15:42] <laga> to be fair, the gain right now is that it actually works ;)
[15:47] <BenC> For our purposes, so does unionfs 1.4
[15:47] <BenC> but users want features in aufs, so we've moved on to that
[17:48] <munckfish> smb_tp: if you need to contact me about any issue with the ports build I'll be unavailable till about 23:00 UTC
[17:48] <munckfish> I'll try to check my mail then
[17:48] <munckfish> but also in the morning too.
[17:48] <smb_tp> munckfish, ok
[17:48] <munckfish> bfn
[17:49] <munckfish> oh my email is
[17:49] <munckfish><EMAIL_ADDRESS>or the one in my commits
[17:49] <munckfish> bfn
[18:15] <Zhenech> heya guys
[18:21] <Zhenech> i'm the maintainer of tp-smapi in debian and would like to know why you decided to patch tp-smapi into your kernels
[18:21] <Zhenech> rather then providing modules packages as we do
[18:22] <Ben1> tp-smapi?
[18:23] <Zhenech> BenC, yeah, thinkpad smapi driver for querying the EC
[18:25] <BenC> Zhenech: remind me what that is
[18:25] <BenC> Zhenech: but the short answer would probably be because we didn
[18:25] <BenC> 't want to have to have ppl install a separate package
[18:26] <Zhenech> ibm/lenovo thinkpads have an embedded controller, which can e.g. controll the charging of the battery
[18:26] <Zhenech> tp-smapi offers a interace to these settings
[18:26] <Zhenech> (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi)
[18:27] <BenC> then my answer stands...tighter bindling helps us keep it stable
[18:27] <pwnguin> laga: don't worry, im sure greg k-h will hire him! gregk-h promised there were jobs just waiting for kernel hackers
[18:28]  * Zhenech fetches your kernel git
[18:29] <BenC> is it such a bad thing that we do that?
[18:29] <BenC> *bundling
[18:29] <IntuitiveNipple> Benc: l-u-m commit 2e0a73b13cfe2c8c2d620b46a74013435e30c18b
[18:31] <Zhenech> BenC, well, I probably won't do that, but it's not as bad that it could break something easily (besides of compilation of the kernel itself)
[18:32] <Zhenech> BenC, but its kinda not usefull for people who dont know the interface (and I'm waiting for git to look which docs you ship)
[18:33] <BenC> Zhenech: we likely don't ship the docs....we include it for things like acpi-support to use, IIRC
[18:33] <Zhenech> there is no acpi support in tp-smapi
[18:33] <Zhenech> thats what thinkpad-acpi is for
[18:33] <Zhenech> and that is in linus tree
[18:34] <Zhenech> the only two things tp-smapi does is battery info/control and better hdaps sensor readings
[18:35] <BenC> I mean for userspace to use, but not the user directly
[18:36] <Zhenech> ah you mean the acpi-support package
[18:37]  * Zhenech looks at the source
[18:38] <BenC> then it's probably used by hal
[18:40] <BenC> right
[18:46] <Zhenech> BenC, you dont ship hdaps_ec anymore?
[18:48] <IntuitiveNipple> For Hardy, it's in l-u-m ubuntu/hwmon/
[18:48] <IntuitiveNipple> see the l-u-m commit I mentioned earlier
[18:48] <Zhenech> IntuitiveNipple, but not for intrepid?
[18:51] <Zhenech> there is no l-u-m for intrepid as far i can see
[18:55] <rtg> BenC: did we get a new compiler version in Intrepid? I'm getting ABI errors on memcpy using the ABI files you commited for 2.6.27-4.5
[18:58] <BenC> weird
[18:58] <BenC> not that I know of
[19:00] <rtg> BenC: it is weird. I can't rebuild the version I successfully uploaded just last night. hmmm
[19:00] <IntuitiveNipple> Zhenech: I don't see it in the logs, for ubuntu-intrepid or ubuntu-intrepid-ports. u-i-p has what looks at first glance like a duplicate drivers/hwmon/hdaps.c
[19:02] <Zhenech> IntuitiveNipple, drivers/hwmon/hdaps.c is the in-kernel hdaps driver (at least it looks like it)
[19:02] <IntuitiveNipple> Zhenech: yeah, thats what I said. It looks to be a dupe of the one in u-i  ... I'm just waiting for an update to finish so I can't diff the two repos right now (plus I'm stuffing a chicken!)
[19:04] <Zhenech> ok
[19:06] <IntuitiveNipple> BenC: is it possible u-i commit ed464174f93b accidentally left out hardy l-u-m ubuntu/hwmon/hdaps_ec.c ?
[19:11] <rtg> Ng: what display graphics do you have on your e1000e based machine?
[19:13] <mjg59> rtg: He's got an X3100-based system
[19:13] <mjg59> 965GM
[19:14] <rtg> mjg59: I was following up on Jiri's comment on LKML that so far all affected machines appear to be i965
[19:15] <smb_tp> IntuitiveNipple, The hdaps_ec came from the thinkpad smapi package. I am not sure why it is in u-i-p but not in u-i
[19:26] <smb_tp> CarlFK, There have been C1E news upstream. Put a new kernel to the usual place to try.
[19:28] <CarlFK> smb_tp:  on my way
[19:29] <IntuitiveNipple> smb_tp: The u-i-p  hdaps.c is an older version than the one in u-i (has some newer IDs added). The hardy l-u-m hdaps_ec.c has some significant differences to hdaps.c (from the tp_smapi-0.36 source tarball). I wonder if those difference ought to be integrated or are no longer necessary/
[19:30] <Zhenech> they should be intrgrated imho (but from 0.37 tp-smapi source)
[19:30] <Zhenech> afk, food :)
[19:31] <smb_tp> IntuitiveNipple, The one from tpsmapi had some improvements regarding to some axis inversion. And it worked together with tp_smapi trhough the common ec driver. otherwise one one can be loaded. I have to check how well the kernel one does
[19:32] <CarlFK> smb_tp: what kernel params should I be using? currently doing apic=debug debug
[19:33] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Just leave it that way, but frankly, from the changes I very much hope this is not needed and boot goes smoothly
[19:33]  * smb_tp knows he said so before...
[19:33] <CarlFK> I was wondering when you were hoping for problems :)
[19:34] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Who ever is hoping for them. :)
[19:35] <IntuitiveNipple> smb_tp: is it worth mailing-list post just so it is on the radar?
[19:40] <smb_tp> IntuitiveNipple, I believe it is worth it. Might also be worth to see why this doesn't get into upstream
[19:40] <IntuitiveNipple> okay... I have no idea about it but since I've just tracked all the changes I'll post one before I forget so others can consider it
[19:41] <smb_tp> IntuitiveNipple, Ok, thanks
[19:43] <CarlFK> smb_tp: it paused... will post dmesg
[19:45] <smb_tp> CarlFK, *argh* Oh well, so I can just re-add my debugging messages...
[19:46] <CarlFK> so that's why it didnt work... you angered the debug gods
[19:47] <laga> pwnguin: haha
[19:47] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Looks like it. Alright, lets add so much debugging the system is near paused by them. ;-)
[20:06] <CarlFK> smb_tp: do you want dmesg now, or wait for the extra debugging ?
[20:07] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Wait for the extra debugging. I don't expect much change in the current dmesg
[21:52] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Ok, there is a 4-6smb2 now and it should please the debug gods. If that pauses you probably have to write down the previous messages as far as they are visible... It is really noisy
[21:59] <CarlFK> on my way
[23:11] <CarlFK> smb_tp: it overflowed the dmesg buffer :/
[23:12] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Did it pause somewhere before?
[23:12] <CarlFK> nope
[23:12] <CarlFK> im posting what I have - might be useful
[23:13] <smb_tp> CarlFK, the enter and exit broadcast might be just too much... Ok, thanks
[23:13] <CarlFK> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17938610/dmesg24ck.txt
[23:15] <CarlFK> [    2.595651] hpet_resources: 0xfed00000 is busy
[23:17] <CarlFK> that's the onlything I find interesting but I don;t know what to look for :)
[23:25] <smb_tp> CarlFK, No there isn't really much to see. I remove the noisy ones and put that up later
[23:36] <smb_tp> CarlFK, What seems to be useful: both cpus were not in broadcast while that pause between 3 and 17 secs happened.
[23:38] <CarlFK> every little bit helps
[23:41] <smb_tp> CarlFK, It surely does. This was again the first stall (before marking tsc unstable)? And you pressed a key after some time.
[23:41] <CarlFK> yep - actually plugged in AC
[23:42] <CarlFK> pluggin in AC keeps me from having to hold down a key to get it past the other pauses
[23:43] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Does that mean plugging in AC somehow prevents the other pauses, while pressing a key has to be repeated?
[23:43] <CarlFK> right
[23:43] <CarlFK> if I hold down the shift key, (or probably any other key) it doesnt pause
[23:44] <CarlFK> i don't know if it is keyrepeat or what
[23:44] <CarlFK> starting the boot with AC plugged in still pauses
[23:44] <CarlFK> at the same place
[23:45] <smb_tp> CarlFK, Might be something like this. And plugging in the AC maybe triggers some charging updates...
[23:46] <mjg59> Does plugging in AC change the available C states?
[23:46] <CarlFK> but it doesn't explain the initial pause if it is already on AC
[23:46] <mjg59> /proc/acpi/processor/*/power would tell you
[23:46] <mjg59> CarlFK: Until the processor module is loaded, C state behaviour may be different
[23:47] <smb_tp> mjg59, CarlFK might be something to follow. Since it is clear now that at least the cpus have not gone into an idle state during that time
[23:48] <smb_tp> So maybe C1E is not at fault there...
[23:48] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/80368/ /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power
[23:48] <mjg59> CarlFK: Is that on AC or DC?
[23:48] <CarlFK> ac
[23:48] <mjg59> And on battery?
[23:49] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.com/80370/  both
[23:50] <mjg59> Huh. It's never going into C2 or C3 anyway.
[23:50] <mjg59> Which sounds like some different type of failure


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[03:08] <guiverc> I'll post https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-February/000265.html to fridge if anyone thinks it's needed/worthwhile... I don't think it is  (40post/60no-post)
[03:08] <guiverc> ^ is "Ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> hotfix released"
[03:09]  * guiverc can always add a comment to the 20.04.2 released post
[03:10] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Is good to know info - has my vote .
[03:11] <guiverc> I was rather vague... vote to post, vote for my not-worth-posting..  (or even post-as-comment... I really clouded the issue sorry)
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[18:07] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:52] <snail> now back from paternity leave, so i'll be around more
[19:15] <ajmitch> morning
[19:19] <ibeardslee> .. except maybe for those mornings after 'one of those nights'? ;)
[19:30] <ajmitch> heh
[19:30] <ajmitch> hads: what router are you using with UFB?
[19:46] <mwhudson> morning
[19:58] <chilts> morning
[19:58] <chilts> snail: congrats by the way :)
[20:10] <snail> chilts: thanks, but not much of the work was mine...
[20:22] <chilts> heh, I'm sure there will be more to come
[21:10] <hads> ajmitch: I'm still undecided for the long term. Thinking about trying out one of the new Ubuiqity Edgerouters when they are released. At the moment I'm using an old Draytek 2820
[21:11] <hads> Although this morning I'm connected through a Fritzbox that Snap supplied because they are trying to figure out why my upstream is only 10Mbit still.
[21:11]  * ajmitch was thinking of getting one of those alix boards for it, but it might not be up to it from what I've read
[21:12] <ajmitch> I got the letter from chorus that they'll be digging up the street soonish
[21:12] <hads> No I don't think the Alix will be able to route 100Mbit
[21:12] <hads> Especially not if you want to do QoS or anything.
[21:12] <hads> I was using an Alix with OpenWRT up until UFB
[21:13] <hads> http://www.ubnt.com/edgemax - see the last paragraph
[21:13] <ajmitch> does snap use pppoe for UFB?
[21:14] <hads> Yes
[21:14] <ajmitch> that's a rather shiny page
[21:16] <ajmitch> are you going to resell them?
[21:18] <hads> I don't have a distributor for Ubiquiti stuff so probably not. GoWiFi in Christchurch sell it.
[21:19] <ajmitch> $159+GST but out of stock, not too bad I guess
[21:20]  * ajmitch doesn't expect to get UFB hooked up for at least a couple of months
[21:57] <chilts> fmarier: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21159531 :)
[22:06] <fmarier> chilts: yes these are the phones we'll be giving away (well, vouchers for these phones) for the best demos on saturday :)
[22:09] <chilts> heh, cool
[22:09]  * chilts didn't know that :)
[22:10]  * ibeardslee really needs to start thinking on what he could create
[22:11] <ibeardslee> and suddenly has a brilliant idea
[22:16] <fmarier> the app i'm working on is this one: http://fmarier.github.com/fxos-iamrich/
[22:16] <fmarier> inspired of course by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich
[22:16] <ajmitch> fmarier: and you'll sell it for $100k?
[22:18] <fmarier> ajmitch: i haven't looked at the limit for app purchases, but yeah. this will be a free-as-in-speech but not free-as-in-beer app ;)
[22:18] <fmarier> if i've got time, i also want to improve on the original one by adding in-app payments
[22:19] <fmarier> if you click on the ruby, it makes it bigger each time but at a cost of $x
[22:19]  * fmarier has his retirement plan all sorted
[22:20] <ajmitch> for extra $, you could add some animations to the ruby once it's full-sized
[22:21] <fmarier> good idea
[22:21] <ibeardslee> upgrade from a ruby to a more expensive gem?
[22:22] <fmarier> there are so many opportunities here, i should go full-time on this
[22:23]  * ibeardslee saves the logs to ensure he gets appropriate compensation if the ideas are implemented
[22:24] <fmarier> ibeardslee: i'll give you a free copy of the app, don't worry, i'm a generous guy :D
[22:25] <ibeardslee> heh
[22:27] <ajmitch> next thing you know, you'll be partying with kim dotcom
[22:32] <fmarier> ajmitch: haha, can't wait for my coatsville invite
[22:55] <snail> fmarier: we need an "I am Open Source" which helps people build their own apps...
[23:04] <chilts> fmarier: a very worthy app you are doing :)
[23:04] <chilts> however, I might not pay $999.99 for it
[23:33] <ibeardslee> damnit, firefox won't install onto my old, cheap and nasty ideos phone