[15:39] <EriC^^> whitehat: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic linux-headers-generic
[15:41] <elias_a> Any suggestions on how to install Wickr messaging app on 16.04?
[15:42] <elias_a> I did find this but no luck: https://www.linuxhelp.com/how-to-install-wickr-app-in-linux/
[15:42] <elias_a> Lots of unmet dependencies.
[15:43] <njumdl2014> Hello, I have a question about software dependency problem. locales->libc-bin->libc6. When I install libc6, it depends on locales. Wow, how do I solve this problem?
[15:43] <whitehat> EriC^^, in 16.10, when I do that it then wants to install the various headers for 4.8.0-26 as well as the linux-image files for their respect.  I'll try that with the 4.8.0-26 additions to see if that works
[15:43] <njumdl2014> http://paste.debian.net/890429
[15:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> wickr? why? "patented" security?
[15:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> that sounds terrifyingly bad.
[15:44] <NoImNotNineVolt> though, eff endorsed them, somehow, so maybe it's not that terrible...
[15:44] <OerHeks> elias_a, did you perform "apt install -f " ? if so, good luck with that app, maybe you want top make a proper launcher too
[15:44] <EriC^^> whitehat: ok
[15:44] <elias_a> NoImNotNineVolt: Yes it does. And as it is from USA it is even worse. :P
[15:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> elias_a: have you considered signal?
[15:45] <elias_a> NoImNotNineVolt: I am actually helping a dude from Finnish help channel out here.
[15:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> ah, fair enough. i'd recommend signal to him :P
[15:45] <elias_a> NoImNotNineVolt: No as i am not in need of instant messenfer. :P
[15:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> but... isn't that what wickr is?
[15:47] <elias_a> NoImNotNineVolt: Yes but I am only helping him/her out. I'd just try the installation.
[15:48] <elias_a> NoImNotNineVolt: He has got a language barrier. :P
[15:53] <whitehat> EriC^^, i installed the linux-generic and linux-headers-generic and it installed a slew of *26 headers and still the same.  the Virtualbox rebuild of the dkms module failed again with the same error. :-(
[15:53] <EriC^^> whitehat: did you reboot?
[15:54] <whitehat> EriC^^, No.  usually don't have to.  i'll do that
[15:54] <EriC^^> boot into the latest kernel
[15:55] <whitehat> EriC^^, has been booting into the latest kernel since I upgraded to 16.10. waiting for reboot...
[15:56] <EriC^^> didn't you say you were on 4.2?
[15:58] <jluc> Hello
[15:58] <jluc> i'm helping a friend recover his lost wifi connection on XUbuntu
[15:59] <jluc> where should i look so he can connect ?
[16:00] <whitehat> EriC^^, oh great.  machine doesn't boot now.  going to be a long afternoon
[16:01] <EriC^^> whitehat: sounds like the install has some issues, maybe the upgrade didn't go so smooth?
[16:01] <whitehat> EriC^^, The upgrade was perfect last week.
[16:01] <EriC^^> jluc: check if the device appears first and if the kernel module is loaded
[16:02] <EriC^^> whitehat: something must have changed then
[16:02] <EriC^^> whitehat: ah, maybe it doesn't like the new kernel
[16:02] <OerHeks> signed kernel issue..?
[16:02] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760671/could-not-load-vboxdrv-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-and-i-want-to-keep-secur
[16:03] <whitehat> EriC^^, The last apt-get install --reinstall.  It installed the previous kernel to satisfy deps for the linux-generic and linux-header-generic packages.
[16:03] <EriC^^> whitehat: it should install the latest kernel and headers
[16:03] <EriC^^> !info linux-generic
[16:03] <jluc> what device EriC^^ ? and where should i check that ? and what kernel module ?
[16:03] <EriC^^> 4.8.0-26
[16:04] <EriC^^> jluc: lspci -k | grep -A2 Wireless
[16:04] <jluc> its xubuntu and i only know ubuntu and lubuntu, not xubuntu, so i dont even know how things should happen "when it works"
[16:04] <jluc> ok i try
[16:04] <OerHeks> whitehat, what vbox version? i read this too > http://news.softpedia.com/news/virtualbox-5-1-8-out-now-oracle-adds-linux-kernel-4-8-support-in-virtualbox-5-0-509433.shtml as yakkety is still on 5.16 ??
[16:05] <EriC^^> jluc: try lspci -k and look for wireless
[16:05] <EriC^^> and see the line kernel module loaded
[16:06] <jluc> ok EriC^^ : lspci grep returns approx "intel wireless 4965 AG or AGN kedron network connection rev 61 / device 1001 / kernel driver in use : iwl4965"
[16:06] <jluc> & what should i do with iwl4965 now ?
[16:06] <whitehat> OerHeks, will read the article.  now sure about the current version.  have to get the machine to boot first.  VB was working after the upgrade.  i just noticed that my VM's didn't come up this morning when I booted.  Must have been one of the latest packages that broke something.
[16:08] <EriC^^> jluc: try iwlist scan
[16:09] <jluc> says "wlan0 failed to read scan data : network is down"
[16:10] <thinky> hi
[16:10] <jluc> btw the computer is wire linked to internet now and that works fine, only wifi cant be activated
[16:10] <thinky> after i upgrade ubuntu opera
[16:10] <thinky> it asks me to update flash player
[16:10] <OerHeks> whitehat, check the log perhaps? $HOME/.VirtualBox/Machines/<vm name>/Logs
[16:11] <hippybear> apt-get remove --purge flashinstaller
[16:11] <hippybear> boom
[16:11] <hippybear> never install again
[16:11] <hippybear> :D
[16:11] <whitehat> OerHeks, will do.  going to remove the packages that were just recently installed and then go from there.
[16:13] <thinky> hippybear: but i need flash
[16:13] <thinky> for some contents
[16:13] <hippybear> like?
[16:13] <hippybear> Chrome has the 'whateveritscalled' instead of flash
[16:13] <thinky> hippybear: online movie streaming
[16:13] <thinky> web lightirc client
[16:13] <hippybear> gross
[16:13] <hippybear> I can stream netflix
[16:14] <hippybear> is it like that?
[16:14] <thinky> i dont use netflic
[16:14] <thinky> netflix
[16:14] <ppf> and all the porn sites switched to html5 as well
[16:14] <thinky> not so like
[16:14] <thinky> some websites provides flashplayer
[16:14] <hippybear>  This kind of Flash slows you down, and starting this September, Chrome 53 will begin to block it.  Just wondering if there are any dual band wifi nics out there that work out of the box
[16:19] <hippybear> OerHeks, Chrome uses PPAPI they block flash from Chrome 53 on
[16:19] <OerHeks> any other browser that uses pepperflash ... downloads chrome to rip the plugin.
[16:19] <whitehat> EriC^^, for some reason it used the old kernel when installing the generic packages. will be working on it this afternoon.  thank you.
[16:20] <styler2go>  Hello. I am trying to setup an IPv6 dyndns. Is there some kind of client to do that? I tried ddclient but it seems like it can only update ipv4
[16:20] <OerHeks> hippybear, so? ppapi is the same as the pepperflash plugin.
[16:20] <thinky> opera has own vpn and adblocker
[16:20] <thinky> firefox has adblocker
[16:20] <thinky> opera doesnt both
[16:20] <EriC^^> jluc: try rfkill list all
[16:20] <hippybear> OerHeks, I didnt say it was any different
[16:21] <OerHeks> good luck with opera. i never got it installed.
[16:21] <hippybear> OerHeks, I said Chrome 53 onward will block flash completely and only use pepper
[16:21] <thinky> OerHeks: why?
[16:21] <hippybear> https://chrome.googleblog.com/2016/08/flash-and-chrome.html
[16:22] <hippybear> not totally block I guess "In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except for sites which only support Flash. For those, you’ll be prompted to enable Flash when you first visit the site."
[16:25] <__VEGAN__> Have you  eaten  ground beef  recently? Ground beef is the result of everything outside of  the  cow's  bones  (including nerves)  being  ground up.  Do you feel as smart as you were last week or last month? You may have it. Meat has always been murder,  but now,  when you serve beef, you may be  murdering  the ones you love  and even yourself.   There IS a healthy alternative!  Visit www.vegan.org today!
[16:25] <ppf> lol
[16:28] <tgm4883> hmm, I should have a burger for lunch
[16:28] <hippybear> wow, Vegans spamming IRC now trying to guit trip people? Thats douchey as fuck
[16:29] <hippybear> probably going to get a ton of people
[16:29] <nacc> !language | hippybear
[16:29] <hippybear> I apologize, May the Christians with their delicate little ears forgive me in Jesus name
[16:29] <hippybear> almonds
[16:30] <jluc> EriC^^, "rfkill list all" says : 1: phy0: Wireless LAN / softblock : no / hardblock : yes
[16:30] <Stinky_Feet> Tripping by quitting is always a neat maneuver...
[16:30] <nacc> hippybear: no reason to be more offensive when you ignore the channel guidelines, which are in the /topic
[16:31] <jluc> "soft blocked" and "hard blocked" actually
[16:31] <EriC^^> jluc: look for a switch on the laptop that turns the wifi on and off
[16:32] <EriC^^> might be on the sides
[16:34] <Shadow_aok> hi
[16:34] <Shadow_aok> anyone would know why ubuntu keeps booting on an old kernel altough a new one has been installed ?
[16:34] <Shadow_aok> grub has been updated, new kernel is the first option (i don't see the grub menu)
[16:35] <Shadow_aok> it's an upgrade from a 14.04 to a 16.04 with kodi installed
[16:36] <SwedeMike> Shadow_aok: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time
[16:38] <Shadow_aok> thanks
[16:40] <jhutchins> Shadow_aok: Is it possible you set a specific default boot item?
[16:40] <Shadow_aok> 0 as default is /etc/default/grub
[16:41] <Shadow_aok> i commented the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 line and updated grub but it's still the same (holding shift doesn't do anything)
[16:42] <Shadow_aok> maybe with commenting the GRUB_DEFAULT=0 will help
[16:42] <jluc> 8-/ i've found the technical booklet of the notebook (compaq 6910P) and it says there is a wifi on/off switch but that is wrong, there is none on this item EriC^^
[16:42] <jluc> wifi light is on though
[16:42] <EriC^^> jluc: hmm the rfkill says it's hardblocked
[16:43] <jluc> it's a second hand refurbished computer; could it be that the refurbishment replaced the switch with a nice plastic bar ?????(nooooo)
[16:45] <Shadow_aok> damn, didn't change anything
[16:45] <EriC^^> jluc: it might be disabled in the bios
[16:46] <EriC^^> jluc: see if wireless is disabled there
[16:48] <xux> hi I need help
[16:48] <xux> I need  to kill everyone in the world, that's the mode my body is in, how do I get out?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> xux  let's hear it, in one line
[16:48] <xux> professional help does not help
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> !ot | xux
[16:49] <xux> fedore ahs lost one important person already, ian murdock
[16:49] <xux> you don't want to lose me
[16:49] <xux> I annot kill people
[16:49] <dax> oh damnit we lost him
[16:50] <melt> xux: go work for AMD's Linux GPU driver division, they are slowly turning me senile
[16:50] <melt> :)
[16:50] <jluc> wlan wifi seems ON. Should i invert/switch/permute LAN and WLAN (wifi network) ?
[16:55] <Hell-Razor> hey fellas. Just wondering if there are any dual band wifi nics out there that work out of the box
[16:55] <jluc> Actually when i switch ON that BIOS setup (permute LAN and WLAN) and boot : the wifi light is now OFF, but "rfkill list all" says the same as previously "Soft blocked NO / Hard blocked YES"
[16:56] <jluc> So i'll unset that mysterious setting and back to no lan/Wlan permute
[16:56] <Shadow_aok> fixed by reinstalling grub into sda and update-grub
[17:06] <rocket__> man virtualbox is pretty buggy on ubuntu
[17:07] <rocket__> i still have a couple of issues here
[17:07] <rocket__> but now enought time
[17:09] <kimodarsh> is this the place where one asks asenine questions for someone to answer?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> kimodarsh  yes, this is ubuntu support
[17:09] <kimodarsh> i'm having some troubles
[17:09] <Guest17968> hiya
[17:09] <kimodarsh> my machine does not seem to want to suspend properly
[17:10] <kimodarsh> i can close the lid, but that does nothing
[17:10] <Guest17968> I wonder if somebody could help me
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest17968  you won't know, until you ask a question
[17:10] <kimodarsh> i can type pm-suspend in the terminal but it quickly boots up again
[17:11] <kimodarsh> i cant even figure out what is causing the problem
[17:11] <Guest17968> well i have just upgraded to the lates linux mint 18,
[17:12] <Guest17968> now there is a lot of humming background noise going through my speakers via the onboard sound card
[17:12] <dax> !mintsupport
[17:12] <Guest17968> right-o
[17:12] <kimodarsh> i've tried acpi tool but couldnt see/understand anything that was wrong. and i've used "dmesg" and that gave me the rundown of what happened but it didnt say anything about why
[17:12] <Guest17968> thought it might be something to do with the kernel or something
[17:13] <hossein> .
[17:14] <kimodarsh> i'm using ubuntu 16.04
[17:15] <Guest17968> kimodarsh have you looked at the power saving settings in your desktop settings?
[17:16] <kimodarsh> yes, it says to suspend on lid close, but nothing happens
[17:18] <Mkll> Hello.
[17:19] <zed__> hai
[17:20] <selinuxium> Hi there, I am havingf trouble with a clean install of 16.10. I am trying to use snappy but the dialouge in the Ubuntu Software centre will not accept my email/password for single sign on.
[17:20] <selinuxium> I have also reset my password for single sign on, even though I know it previously worked.
[17:20] <zed__> iam new user
[17:20] <zed__> how are you
[17:20] <zed__> any reply friends
[17:21] <protn> hi
[17:22] <zed__> iam brought a laptop just few days ego,iam new user for computer
[17:22] <protn> kl
[17:22] <Mkll> Offtopic from ubuntu but
[17:22] <Mkll> does AntiX have an IRC chat similar
[17:23] <zed__> what are tou saying about ? i cant understand it friends
[17:23] <nacc> zed__: this is the ubuntu support channel
[17:23] <zed__> ok
[17:24] <nabblet> I can't find gparted on the ubuntu live usb stick. I think I recalled gparted being part of the live image. What tool is now used instead of gparted?
[17:24] <zed__> i want to learn about linux ubuntu
[17:24] <protn> its not trolls support channel? zed__
[17:24] <protn> :P
[17:24] <nacc> !manual | zed__
[17:25] <zed__> ok
[17:25] <protn> !help
[17:25] <zed__> what is the basic
[17:25] <protn> !patience
[17:25] <zed__> nacc
[17:26] <Mkll> zed
[17:26] <zed__> iam from india.where are you from nacc
[17:26] <Mkll> Pm me
[17:26] <nacc> zed__: that is offtopic
[17:26] <nacc> zed__: this is not a chat channel
[17:26] <zed__> can you guide me to learn linux
[17:26] <Mkll> #ubuntu-chat?
[17:26] <nacc> !ot
[17:27] <Mkll> @zed__ message me
[17:27] <zed__> hmm
[17:28] <zed__> yes
[17:28] <zed__> where are you from guys
[17:29] <zed__> iam from india
[17:29] <nacc> zed__: please stop.
[17:29] <Mkll> Do you know how?
[17:29] <Mkll> right click and select message.
[17:29] <Mkll> zed__ use #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:35] <jluc> Back to basics ! On Xubuntu, what app should i launch so as to be able to connect to some wifi network ?
[17:35] <jluc> this app would scan wifi and propose me the various available connections
[17:36] <Mkll24> uh
[17:36] <jluc> This doesnt happen automatically so how can i manualy launch that app ?
[17:36] <Mkll24> use the default connection?
[17:36] <Mkll24> app?
[17:36] <jluc> it doesnt happen automatically so how can i manualy launch that "default connection" app ?
[17:38] <Mkll> zed__
[17:39] <Southern_Gentlem> nm-applet
[17:40] <Mkll> Help.
[17:42] <Southern_Gentlem> Mkll, we cant
[17:46] <Hell-Razor> Nobody knows about wireless?
[17:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> some people know about wireless.
[17:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm considering getting my ham license.
[17:48] <Hell-Razor> just looking to see if there are any decent dual band cards or sticks out there NoImNotNineVolt, google says yes and no
[17:50] <anon> hey everyone, quick question. I am attempting to tri-boot my laptop with Mac OS X 10.11, Win10 & Ubuntu (latest). I have successfully installed OS X, Windows & Ubuntu. OS X & Windows boot just fine but when attempting to boot Ubuntu I get a flashing cursor screen.
[17:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> well, that's a good question, and one which i might need an answer to myself in the near future :)
[17:50] <teward> Hell-Razor: "decent" is a relative term.  I have an Alfa card/stick (it's a high gain one though, with the antennas) that works pretty well and is dual band.
[17:50] <anon> Also I am completely unable to do anything in the Grub menu. Keyboard seems like it just does not work at all when in that menu.
[17:51] <Large> hey anyone knows about honeyd installation
[17:51] <Hell-Razor> teward one that doesnt require a ton of setup. my current one took me like 6 hours to get working
[17:51] <teward> Hell-Razor: mine just required updating my 14.04 driver package (easy for me), then plugging the thing in.
[17:51] <teward> works OOTB on 16.04 live disks, when I tested
[17:52] <TitoN> hey got a quick question if i may. How is the support for amd r9 270 cards in ubuntu?
[17:53] <Dennis__> Goodevening all
[17:53] <Ramsey_> Hello There
[17:53] <Ramsey_> ping
[17:53] <anon> can I access the Grub install if I boot from the LiveUSB?
[17:53] <Dennis__> I have a problem with my ubuntu 16 postfix configuration which causes the problem that i cant send or receive emails on my vps
[17:54] <Hell-Razor> teward my current one is on the nonfree drivers and is a pita
[17:54] <Dennis__> according to mxtoolbox.com everything is fine ?! (im a noob on mail servers) but i get this error : Host x.x.x.x said: 550 Sender     verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command)
[17:54] <backbox> thanks
[17:54] <backbox> tu madre
[17:55] <Dennis__> and i cant figure it out
[18:00] <squinty> anon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[18:02] <anon> squinty I am attempting now
[18:02] <anon> thank you <3
[18:04] <anon> LVM is for locally installed HDD's yes?
[18:08] <anon> odd
[18:08] <anon> grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[18:10] <ppf> anon: is it?
[18:10] <anon> yes it is
[18:10] <anon> I'm actually sitting in the grub dir now lol
[18:11] <zamanf> looking for a widget for twitter to embed on my desktop
[18:12] <ppf> anon: its question was ' is /dev mounted'
[18:12] <ppf> can you paste the output of mount please
[18:13] <anon> I'm failing to resolve Ubuntu links
[18:13] <anon> wtf?!?
[18:15] <anon> let me ask this. I installed Ubuntu to it's own partition sda5 and then installed grub to the same partition. That /shouldn't/ cause issues should it?
[18:15] <ppf> 'partition'?
[18:16] <ppf> you install grub to a device not a partition
[18:16] <anon> tri-boot OS X, Win10 & Ubuntu
[18:16] <StumpDumb> Installing Lubuntu: USB drive runs great...alone, plug in HD and get Busybox errors. HD works great with another Ubuntu HD can not figure out what the problem is....any ideas out there?
[18:16] <anon> so I installed to the same partition that I installed Ubuntu to
[18:16] <anon> I'm using clover as my bootloader
[18:17] <ppf> for osx or ubuntu?
[18:18] <anon> clover is handling all boots
[18:18] <anon> basically clover loads grub to load ubuntu
[18:18] <ppf> okay
[18:18] <ppf> what's the problem you're trying to solve?
[18:18] <anon> to get the OS to boot
[18:19] <anon> after install I just get a blinking cursor or a purple/black screen
[18:19] <anon> but my keyboard doesn't work in Grub to change the boot options
[18:19] <ppf> so grub is loading?
[18:20] <meeseeks> question: im using intel hardware raid (lvl 1). during 14.04 server install i am prompted to activate mdadm intel/ddf controllers, as well as serial ata controllers. what is the difference between the two controllers?
[18:20] <meeseeks> do i need one or both or neither if im using hardware raid?
[18:21] <anon> ppf yes grub is loading but it just gives me a blinking cursor on boot
[18:21] <ppf> so it's booting or is grub stuck?
[18:22] <meeseeks> anon try reconfiguring your xorg.conf.
[18:22] <ppf> anon: no don't do that (yet?)
[18:22] <meeseeks> can you drop to a tty?
[18:23] <derbie> hi. I usedd rufus archlinux to place a linux distro using dd image. I want to create an ubuntu bootable disk now, and i can't format it. In rufus it says it has 67MB.
[18:23] <ppf> meeseeks: let's first figure what's wrong and then look for ways to fix something ;)
[18:25] <derbie> nevermind
[18:25] <derbie> port was bad
[18:25] <derbie> XD
[18:30] <anon> ppf: I'm doing a fresh install again. Just because I had to remove to try and reinstall grub and every apt-get failed
[18:30] <ppf> fair enough
[18:30] <chelios> hi there, I am running MATE desktop on 16.04 I previously enabled focus follows mouse but now I would like to turn it off. I set focus-mode to click and unchecked auto-raise but it still does focus follows mouse. Any ideas?
[18:30] <anon> installing as superuser
[18:30] <ppf> anon: that makes no sense?
[18:30] <nabblet> is there a way to star the install process from the "try ubuntu" live system?
[18:31] <anon> what doesn't?
[18:31] <ppf> 'installing as superuser'
[18:31] <anon> that's what it says
[18:31] <ppf> what what says
[18:31] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xRUVJAaE/1477593110.JPG
[18:31] <anon> the installer
[18:32] <ppf> alright
[18:34] <anon> I'll be 100% honest, this is the first time I'm attempting a tri-boot but Clover seems to handle the boot just fine to Grub
[18:34] <anon> it just seems to stop after that point. Keyboard becomes useless (attached and wireless) and then boots to a blinking cursor
[18:34] <kernello> hello, since 16.04. I cannot create pgp keys
[18:35] <anon> I hope the reinstall fixes those issues but to be fair without being able to change the boot args within Grub from the menu I'm not sure how to go about fixing that issue.
[18:35] <anon> seems like it /could/ be a graphics card or driver issue. Am I wrong?
[18:35] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, u here?
[18:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:35] <ppf> anon: tell us if it's working
[18:35] <ubuntu-mate> please can help me out on grub
[18:36] <ppf> !ask
[18:36] <anon> waiting for it to finish
[18:36] <ubuntu-mate> i decided to delete debian and install windows on my ssd
[18:36] <anon> will let you know when it's done. Appreciate your time tho mate :)
[18:36] <ubuntu-mate> now i only access grub rescue
[18:36] <nabblet> hi, when I boot the live usb stick I do not get to choose to install ubunut. it always go to the live system straight away. Any ideas how to install nevertheless?
[18:36] <tomreyn> kernello: if you'll provide an error message or explain what makes you think / how you verified 'it does not work', soemone might be able to help you solve this issue.
[18:37] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, weirdly my 32gb ssd is formated as ntfs but fdisk sees other partitions on it
[18:37] <ubuntu-mate> this /dev/sdf: 29.3 GiB
[18:37] <i3ase> test
[18:37] <tomreyn> nabblet: the idea there is foir the live system to fully boot up, then allow you to choose to run the installer.
[18:37] <anon> ubuntu-mate: is the "other" partition like 200 mb?
[18:37] <anon> cuz that would be your efi partition
[18:37] <ubuntu-mate> system dont support efi
[18:37] <ubuntu-mate> old good bios
[18:38] <ubuntu-mate> from 2013
[18:38] <anon> interesting
[18:38] <nabblet> tomreyn: but it never gives me the choice to install.
[18:38] <ubuntu-mate> fdisk sees /dev/sdf1          6579571<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 914.5G 70 DiskSecure Multi-Boot
[18:38] <nabblet> tomreyn: I get to log in and that's it
[18:38] <ubuntu-mate> next /dev/sdf2<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER> 867.2G 43 unknown
[18:38] <tomreyn> nabblet: hmm, that's strange, check your media for errors, i'd say.
[18:38] <ubuntu-mate> next /dev/sdf3        225735265  225735274         10     5K 72 unknown
[18:39] <ppf> !paste | ubuntu-mate
[18:39] <nabblet> tomreyn: is there a way to manually start the install procedure?
[18:39] <kernello> tomreyn, it is self-evident, you go to keys and pw manager, select new pgp key, enter details, but nothing is created
[18:39] <coolmadmax> nabblet, check -->https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[18:39] <kernello> no errors
[18:39] <tomreyn> nabblet: well possible, but i do not know it.
[18:39] <ubuntu-mate> ok guys here it is
[18:40] <tomreyn> kernello: which application provides these user interfaces=?
[18:40] <ppf> ubuntu-mate: what's the question you seek an answer to?
[18:40] <ubuntu-mate> for what it should be a single 29gb ntfs partition fdisk prints this https://paste.ubuntu.com/23389541/
[18:40] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, any ideas?
[18:41] <EriC^^> sec
[18:41] <kernello> tomreyn, seahorse
[18:41] <k_j> hi
[18:41] <k_j> what's the codename of ubuntu 16.04?
[18:41] <ubuntu-mate> xenial
[18:41] <Pici> k_j: xenial xerus
[18:41] <Pici> !16.04
[18:42] <tomreyn> kernello: yes, probably seahorse. if so, maybe seahorse is not working as expected. but you can still create openpgp keys fine using the gpg command line interface, or using a different graphical frontend.
[18:42] <anon> ppf:
[18:42] <k_j> i wonder if it's possible to install it on an usb hd and boot the os from there
[18:42] <Pici> !xenial =~ s/current/current LTS/
[18:42] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YlHddBM6/1477593733.JPG
[18:42] <kernello> tomreyn, which other GUI could I useß
[18:42] <kernello> ?
[18:42] <ppf> anon: okay
[18:42] <k_j> could you please point out an official guide on how to install ubuntu xenial on an usb hd?
[18:42] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qtvtipmm/1477593772.JPG
[18:43] <tomreyn> kernello: i would very much recommend doing it on the CLI really.
[18:43] <ppf> k_j: don't think there is one. does the regular install not work for you?
[18:43] <kernello> tomreyn, I'd very much like to, but until I learn it, a gui could solve it for now
[18:43] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ipAtgNwX/1477593813.JPG
[18:43] <k_j> ppf, i have no space on my laptop disk
[18:43] <anon> And that's what it just sticks at ppf
[18:44] <ppf> k_j: you can pick the disk during install. doesn't that work for the external one?
[18:44] <kernello> and why not seahorse working? why are other things not working since, say, 14.04.?
[18:44] <kernello> network manager bugs,
[18:44] <ppf> anon: is that pre-grub? post-grub?
[18:44] <anon> post
[18:44] <kernello> chrome login window bugs
[18:44] <kernello> it used to be smooth out here
[18:44] <k_j> ppf, but how can i start the install process then from here?
[18:45] <ppf> put the iso on a thumb drive and boot that
[18:45] <anon> that's how I installed originally ppf
[18:45] <ppf> anon: that last one was for k_j
[18:45] <anon> oh
[18:45] <anon> lol
[18:45] <Rarrikins> When is 16.04.2 coming out?
[18:45] <k_j> ppf, hmm i do not quite understand, it's enough to copy an .iso to the disk?
[18:46] <ppf> k_j: no. what OS are you on?
[18:46] <ppf> !install
[18:46] <k_j> ppf, i am on ubuntu 16.04 with no space on the hda
[18:46] <jlas9>     /msg nickserv set hide email on
[18:46] <jlas9>     /msg nickserv set hide email on
[18:46] <jlas9>     /msg nickserv set hide email on
[18:46] <ppf> k_j: see above
[18:46] <popey> you may want to remove the leading spaces jlas9
[18:46] <ppf> anon: is that pre-grub? post-grub?
[18:46] <anon> post grub
[18:46] <jlas9> sorry, please.
[18:47] <ppf> anon: can you boot with nomodeset?
[18:47] <anon> I have no keyboard use during Grub
[18:47] <anon> so I would need a way of modifying the config by LiveUSB
[18:48] <ppf> hm, okay. you can set the default on a live disk
[18:48] <tomreyn> kernello: i don't know of these other issues you refer to, nor did i know about seahorse's issues until now. i can confirm the seahorse issue here, though (just did).
[18:48] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: what exactly happened?
[18:48] <kernello> tomreyn, you had also issues with seahorse?
[18:48] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: it all doesn't make sense
[18:48] <ubuntu-mate> ssd was somehow freaking on me so i decided to format it
[18:49] <kernello> sorry, not chrome, but chromium
[18:49] <ubuntu-mate> and am now unbootable
[18:49] <anon> ppf how do I go about that mate?
[18:49] <kernello> I found out that it was a common issue
[18:49] <ppf> anon: booted in the livedisk?
[18:49] <ubuntu-mate> but on ssd i want to install windows
[18:49] <anon> about to do so now
[18:49] <kernello> and network manager problem is that it disappears every now and then, or does not reappear after a disconnect
[18:49] <ubuntu-mate> but i have to fix boot first right?
[18:49] <kernello> or after recovering from sleep mode
[18:49] <tomreyn> kernello: i suggest you look for an existing bug report. and file a new one if you can't find it. much of this provess can be done for you half automatically when you type this on a terminal: ubuntu-bug seahorse
[18:50] <anon> I tried rebooting one more time and it blinked cursor
[18:50] <ubuntu-mate> ssd is formated as ntfs
[18:50] <tomreyn> *proCess
[18:50] <anon> booting into LiveUSB now
[18:50] <ubuntu-mate> but weirdly fdisk see other partitions
[18:50] <ppf> anon: good. then mount the ubuntu drive and edit /etc/default/grub
[18:51] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, the /dev/sdg1 is my current working xenial install with broken grub
[18:51] <ppf> once you've mounted the ubuntu disk, you can also check it's /var/log
[18:51] <ppf> for dmesg or kern.log or syslog
[18:51] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, sdf is my now empty ntfs formated ssd hdd
[18:52] <kernello> tomreyn, thank you.
[18:52] <star_> hallo
[18:52] <star_> have somebody?
[18:52] <anon> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[18:52] <tomreyn> you're welcome, kernell0
[18:52] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: try creating a fresh partition table
[18:52] <anon> do I need to mount he /mnt/boot if it's on the same sda?
[18:52] <ubuntu-mate> ok
[18:52] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: sudo fdisk /dev/sdf
[18:52] <ppf> anon: no, not unless it's on a different partition
[18:52] <EriC^^> then "o", then "w"
[18:53] <star_> what are you talking about
[18:53] <kernello> by the way, seahorse worked this time (key created), but I remember other instances when it didnt either create it or needed really longer (than before)
[18:53] <anon> I need to do it via chroot tho right?
[18:54] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23389593/ done now what?
[18:54] <ppf> anon: the update-grub yes
[18:54] <ubuntu-mate> sdf has Unallocated Space
[18:54] <marsje> Hi folks. I'm trying to fix someone's Ubuntu 14.04.5 system that seems messed up, probably by some failed updates. It's running kernel 3.13.0-98-generic but apt-get is complaining about 3.13.0-100-generic
[18:55] <ppf> anon: no, actually you don't even need that
[18:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: install windows
[18:55] <ubuntu-mate> my grub is broken
[18:55] <marsje> I'm trying to remove version 100, but then it proposed to remove package linux-generic which doesn't seem like a good idea
[18:55] <nabblet> tomreyn: interestingly, windows install fails too
[18:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: windows will install its own bootloader
[18:55] <ppf> anon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[18:55] <nabblet> tomreyn: like ubuntu it won't even start to install
[18:55] <toss> what does this mean? xargs: xargs.c:443: main: Assertion `bc_ctl.arg_max <=<PHONE_NUMBER>)' failed.
[18:55] <anon> reinstalling grub now
[18:56] <toss> ok
[18:56] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: oh you mean the one
[18:56] <EriC^^> ah i remember you better now
[18:56] <ubuntu-mate> but then i wont be able to boot into my ubuntu xenial
[18:56] <ubuntu-mate> yeap hi :)
[18:56] <EriC^^> you had debian and one disk had no partitions
[18:56] <ubuntu-mate> yes
[18:56] <anon> error
[18:56] <EriC^^> aha so the one with the no partitions you formatted it?
[18:56] <ubuntu-mate> no 1 debian 1 xenial
[18:56] <anon> File system 'ext2' doesn't support embedding
[18:56] <anon> error: will not proceed with blocklists
[18:57] <tomreyn> nabblet: this points to a hardware or firmware issue then.
[18:57] <ubuntu-mate> no i formatted debian
[18:57] <theshams> i am using ubuntu 14.04 ,sometimes while browsing internet via firefox it got hanged (most of the time),and display a dialog box that a stop script is running.Does it also happen with you guys and how to solve this issue?
[18:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: yeah that was the one right
[18:57] <ubuntu-mate> :)
[18:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: you had the debian install's grub on the xenial mbr
[18:57] <ubuntu-mate> oh ok
[18:57] <ubuntu-mate> now what
[18:57] <ppf> anon: context please
[18:58] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: ok, type sudo parted -l
[18:58] <ubuntu-mate> i have chrooted the sdg1
[18:58] <ubuntu-mate> to fix grub :)
[18:58] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: did you run the for i in /dev ...?
[18:58] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LdVHLr60/1477594682.JPG
[18:58] <ubuntu-mate> i need thea i file to tmp line etc
[18:58] <anon> ppf: I hope that's enough context for you :P
[18:58] <theshams> please answer
[18:59] <ubuntu-mate> EriC^^, that is the line i am missing
[18:59] <ppf> anon: yes, that's alright
[18:59] <ubuntu-mate> please sent it to me
[18:59] <EriC^^> aha
[18:59] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: type exit out of the chroot
[18:59] <ppf> grub-install expects a drive, not a partition
[18:59] <ubuntu-mate> ok am out
[18:59] <ppf> but beware that this'll (probably) overwrite clover?
[18:59] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:59] <anon> no
[19:00] <anon> because clover is on sda1
[19:00] <anon> in the EFI partition
[19:00] <ppf> ...
[19:00] <ppf> sda1 is a partition
[19:00] <ppf> sda is the drive
[19:00] <ubuntu-mate> yeah back in bussiness
[19:00] <ubuntu-mate> thanks EriC^^
[19:00] <anon> well it's in my EFI partition and isn't effected by Linux installs apparently
[19:00] <EriC^^> no problem
[19:00] <EriC^^> ubuntu-mate:
[19:00] <anon> I've reinstalled 3x times now and it never touches clover
[19:01] <ppf> alright, i've never touched a mac, so i don't know too much about it
[19:01] <anon> but how do I set nomodeset?
[19:01] <anon> if I can't use a keyboard in Grub... :\
[19:01] <ppf> in /etc/default/grub
[19:02] <ppf> also comment out the HIDDEN settings and remove quiet and splash from the command line
[19:02] <ppf> then update grub
[19:02] <anon> any chance you could SS it?
[19:02] <ppf> SS?
[19:02] <anon> screenshoy
[19:02] <anon> shot*
[19:02] <o|0_0|v_Peace> ?
[19:03] <o|0_0|v_Peace> vim /etc/default/grub
[19:03] <o|0_0|v_Peace> Remove the "#" sign from the hidden settings
[19:03] <ppf> anon: https://ghostbin.com/paste/go47z
[19:04] <porkstore> you know what, i've been manually removing old images every time my boot disk fills up on one computer
[19:04] <ubuntu-mate> off to install windows 10 EriC^^  thanks again
[19:04] <porkstore> now i found out there's an 'autoremove' command
[19:04] <porkstore> which is nice
[19:05] <porkstore> but now i want it to work automatically
[19:05] <star_> ping
[19:05] <star_> what is the time
[19:05] <ppf> porkstore: you can do it as part of unattended upgrades
[19:05] <anon> ppf this is my grub file
[19:05] <anon> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DeV1iBTu/
[19:05] <porkstore> you mean updates or upgrades
[19:05] <k_j> what is the command to show the actual codename?
[19:06] <porkstore> i've been thinking i should stop manually approving updates because i always approve them so there is no point
[19:06] <ppf> anon: yes, now make the relevant parts look like mine, but without the backlight thing
[19:06] <ppf> k_j: cat /etc/*-release
[19:06] <k_j> thx
[19:06] <anon> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qaWdkCDr/
[19:07] <anon> correct?
[19:07] <ppf> !unattended-upgrades
[19:07] <anon> wait you said without the backlight
[19:07] <anon> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WKV5M0Ui/
[19:07] <porkstore> Old kernels still accumulate in /boot because autoremove is not enabled in Ubuntu by default - you must either run it manually every so often, or you must enable it.
[19:07] <anon> so like that?
[19:08] <ppf> anon: looks good
[19:08] <ppf> !info unattended-upgrades
[19:08] <anon> it won't let me save
[19:08] <ppf> why not
[19:09] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pBm357eE/1477595365.JPG
[19:09] <nabblet> tomreyn: after some more investigation it seems that the isntall medium (win as well as linux) must not be booted in CSM mode. Does that ring a bell?
[19:09] <ppf> anon: yeah you need to open it as root
[19:09] <anon> from terminal?
[19:10] <ppf> yes, for instance
[19:10] <anon> command please?
[19:10] <ppf> sudo gedit ...
[19:10] <ioria> !sudo
[19:11] <ioria> !gksu
[19:12] <ppf> anon: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[19:12] <ppf> or gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[19:13] <porkstore> ppf - do i need that package or can i just set it in the visual software & updates settings
[19:14] <anon> ppf: no protocol specified
[19:14] <porkstore> i wonder why i can't automatically install non-security updates
[19:14] <anon> cannot open display: :0
[19:14] <ppf> porkstore: with unattended upgrades yo ucan
[19:14] <porkstore> so that is different from software updater options
[19:14] <porkstore> must be the case
[19:15] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RbYZ0pAj/1477595705.JPG
[19:16] <ppf> anon: run the command from a new terminal
[19:16] <ppf> outside the chroot
[19:16] <ppf> and throw in an /mnt there :)
[19:16] <ioria> or just use sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:16] <anon> worked like a charm
[19:16] <anon> no need for /mnt
[19:16] <ppf> anon: that's the wrong grub ...
[19:16] <anon> oh
[19:16] <anon> lol
[19:17] <anon> sudo gedit /mnt/etc/default/grub
[19:17] <anon> ?
[19:17] <ppf> ya
[19:17] <anon> blank file
[19:18] <anon> the first one I did had the info in it tho
[19:18] <anon> just the sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[19:18] <giorgio> qualcuno mi aiuta?
[19:18] <porkstore> ppf - any idea how i'm supposed to configure this ?
[19:18] <ppf> yes, in the non-chrooted terminal that's the one of the livesystem
[19:19] <porkstore> it says i have to select an 'origins-pattern'
[19:19] <porkstore> the default pattern has the line label=Debian-Security in it
[19:19] <ppf> porkstore: open /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[19:19] <ppf> read the comments in there
[19:19] <ioria> anon, ls /mnt/etc/default/grub
[19:20] <anon> nothing ioria
[19:20] <giorgio> ho un problema col monitor
[19:20] <ioria> anon, so it's not mounted
[19:20] <porkstore> should i just configure it via that file instead of dpkg-reconfigure ?
[19:20] <ppf> anon: paste mount
[19:20] <ppf> porkstore: yes
[19:20] <porkstore> cool
[19:20] <anon> command?
[19:20] <ioria> mount
[19:20] <ppf> mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:21] <anon> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4ljTVhHe/
[19:21] <anon> dammit
[19:21] <anon> wrong paste lol
[19:22] <anon> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/oCtoJeOO/
[19:22] <anon> it is mounted /dev/sda5 on /mnt type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[19:23] <ioria> anon, and your /root is on /dev/sda5 ?
[19:23] <anon> yes
[19:23] <ppf> ls /mnt/etc/default/
[19:24] <anon> shows grub folder
[19:24] <anon> but it's empty
[19:24] <anon> wawait
[19:24] <anon> I r dedede
[19:26] <porkstore> how do enable unattented upgrades ?
[19:26] <porkstore> just editing that file is enough ?
[19:26] <ppf> yes
[19:26] <anon> okay edited & saved
[19:26] <anon> running update-grub now
[19:26] <anon> done
[19:26] <ppf> from the chroot
[19:26] <anon> I should be able to reboot and it should work no?
[19:26] <anon> yes
[19:26] <ppf> good, give it a shot
[19:26] <anon> I may be a newb to this shit but I'm not a noob in general :P
[19:27] <porkstore> ppf - i edited the file, then ran the software updater
[19:27] <porkstore> it is asking me if i want to install now
[19:27] <porkstore> should not be doing that
[19:27] <anon> shutting down
[19:27] <ppf> porkstore: it's 'unattended'
[19:27] <anon> so I can remove USBN
[19:27] <anon> so I can remove USB*
[19:27] <porkstore> yeah but it says there is an update available
[19:27] <anon> booting to clover....... booting linux
[19:27] <porkstore> when does it run ?
[19:27] <ppf> it'll install upgrades and autoremove on it's own
[19:27] <anon> keyboard STILL doesn't work in Grub
[19:28] <anon> 15 seconds until auto boot
[19:28] <ioria> anon, wifi keyboard ?
[19:28] <anon> built in and usb keyboards don't work ioria
[19:28] <anon> looks like I have verbose boot now ppf?
[19:29] <ppf> anon: yes, that was the intention so we can see what's really up
[19:29] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPG
[19:30] <anon> that's what it's hung on
[19:31] <ioria> anon,  not booting ?
[19:31] <anon> nope
[19:31] <anon> hung right where the picture shows
[19:31] <anon> still sitting there
[19:31] <ioria> anon,  but boots from live ?
[19:32] <anon> yup
[19:32] <ioria> anon,  what is that 16.10 ?
[19:32] <anon> newest LTS available as of 2 days ago
[19:33] <ioria> anon,  elaborate, please
[19:34] <anon> 16.04.1
[19:34] <ioria> anon,  you upgraded from wily or from trusty ?
[19:35] <anon> I downloaded the ISO from Ubuntu.com and then imaged it to USB for installation
[19:35] <ioria> anon,  fresh install , then ?
[19:35] <anon> ioria, I tried a fresh install 3 times
[19:35] <anon> it all did the same thing (freeze/hang on blinking cursor or purple/black screen)
[19:36] <ppf> anon: did you verify the iso's hash-sum?
[19:36] <ioria> anon,  did you check the image and the media ?
[19:36] <anon> yes, all validate
[19:36] <anon> and the Live boots just fine
[19:36] <ioria> it's not the same
[19:38] <ioria> anon,  why are you using nomodeset ?
[19:38] <ppf> ioria: my suggestion
[19:38] <ioria> i see
[19:38] <ppf> anon: can you remove nomodeset?
[19:39] <anon> I'll have to boot back into the Live and then do it all again
[19:39] <anon> you just want "" as the option?
[19:39] <ppf> yes i'm afraid
[19:39] <ppf> yes
[19:39] <anon> okay
[19:39] <anon> will have to chroot all over again but oh well
[19:40] <ppf> yeah
[19:40] <anon> give me some time and I'll let you know what happens. Just need to sudo gedit /mnt/etc/default/grub and change it
[19:40] <ioria> anon,  can't you use the grub screen from your installation ?
[19:40] <ppf> we're also guessing here, so it's a longshot
[19:40] <anon> no keyboard
[19:40] <anon> it doesn't recognize my keyboards
[19:40] <ioria> right
[19:40] <anon> no idea why either
[19:41] <ppf> can you try an external keyboard on an usb port?
[19:41] <ppf> *a
[19:41] <ioria> well, it's not normal
[19:41] <anon> yea, tried wireless USB, built in and wired USB
[19:41] <anon> all fail
[19:41] <ppf> it's a macbook, right?
[19:41] <anon> no
[19:41] <anon> it's a hackintosh
[19:41] <ioria> asus
[19:42] <anon> yea asus i3 with HD 5500 gpx
[19:42] <anon> grub works from USB boot
[19:42] <anon> but not HDD boot
[19:42] <anon> wtf
[19:42] <EriC^^> anon: did you bless it?
[19:42] <ppf> anon: that might be because of the chain loader
[19:43] <anon> Hmm
[19:43] <ioria> EriC^^, lol
[19:43] <ppf> anon: is there a grub on your live disk?
[19:43] <anon> LiveUSB but yes
[19:43] <EriC^^> ioria: seriously
[19:43] <EriC^^> :D
[19:43] <ppf> try and use that to boot the installed kernel?
[19:43] <ioria> EriC^^, i know, i know
[19:43] <anon> How?
[19:44] <EriC^^> anon: you have to bless grub
[19:44] <EriC^^> are you using refind or just efi to boot it?
[19:44] <anon> clover
[19:44] <EriC^^> is that like refind?
[19:45] <anon> kiinda
[19:45] <Bucky> Hi, I have an almost fresh Ubuntu 16.04.1 server however I can't make a new user with a proper home folder, there is no /etc/skel folder, could someone help me out?
[19:45] <ioria> This is EFI-based bootloader for BIOS-based computers created as a replacement to EDK2/Duet bootloade
[19:45] <EriC^^> Bucky: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash
[19:45] <ioria> anon, and why do you have it ?
[19:46] <anon> Have to use clover to boot a hackintish
[19:46] <anon> hackintosh*
[19:46] <Bucky> EriC^^, OK, side question, is there a way to verify all of the default packages are installed properly?
[19:46] <EriC^^> does that mean it lets you boot in psuedo efi mode on bios machines?
[19:46] <anon> Yes
[19:46] <ioria> is EriC^^ stuff, then
[19:46] <EriC^^> pretty clover
[19:47] <anon> Clover is actually really nice
[19:47] <anon> I've already got the hackintosh bootable and win10 bootable all from clover
[19:47] <tomreyn> nabblet: does not ring a bell for me, no. but i'm not really into CSM implementations. i do know that ubuntu installers and installations alike (standard kernel images) can boot on both legacy BIOS and UEFI.
[19:47] <Bucky> EriC^^, ran the command, skel folder is there but is empty
[19:47] <anon> It's just Ubuntu that won't actually boot
[19:47] <EriC^^> !info debsums | Bucky
[19:48] <anon> Having a quick smoke ppf
[19:48] <anon> Then I'll do the edit
[19:48] <EriC^^> Bucky: try ls -a /etc/skel
[19:48] <melt> grub2 -> chainload clover
[19:48] <melt> anon^
[19:48] <EriC^^> the files are actually hidden files there
[19:48] <Bucky> EriC^^, yeah, just saw the files are there, I might be retarded
[19:48] <anon> How melt?
[19:50] <Bucky> OK, second issue, trying to VNC into the server to use the XFCE DE, and there are no icons.
[19:55] <anon> edited
[19:55] <anon> rebooting
[19:55] <anon> waiting for 30 second timeout
[19:55] <anon> and still hangs at the exact same part
[19:55] <ioria> should be ten
[19:56] <ioria> anon,  have you ever installed ubuntu on that machine ?
[19:56] <anon> no
[19:57] <EriC^^> what part?
[19:57] <ioria> anon,  really idk, but that clover could be the issue
[19:57] <ioria> EriC^^, this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPG
[19:59] <EriC^^> did you try booting the install from the live usb's grub as ppf said?
[19:59] <nabblet> tomreyn: this pendrive can't boot w/o csm
[19:59] <anon> booting directly to GRUB on liveUSB
[19:59] <anon> now you want me to install from here rather than install from the clover EFI?
[20:00] <tomreyn> nabblet: not if you have secureboot enabled, i guess
[20:00] <EriC^^> anon: no
[20:00] <EriC^^> anon: try a memtest
[20:00] <anon> I'm assuming that's a CLI com?
[20:01] <EriC^^> anon: 1 sec
[20:01] <EriC^^> you're in the live usb grub right now?
[20:01] <anon> yes
[20:01] <anon> and the only options are try Ubuntu without install, install Ubuntu, OEM install & check disc for defects
[20:02] <Jordan_U> anon: If you select "try Ubuntu without installing" you can still always run ubiquity (the installer) from the live environment, and I recommend doing so as then you can browse the internet and do other tasks (including talking to us) while installing.
[20:03] <anon> Jordan_U: that isn't the issue
[20:03] <Jordan_U> anon: But if you have a UEFI based computer, you really should boot and install via UEFI.
[20:03] <anon> the issue is that it's not booting
[20:03] <Jordan_U> anon: OK. What happens when you try to select the "try before installing" option?
[20:03] <EriC^^> anon: ok, try press "c" in grub
[20:04] <anon> okay I'm in CLI
[20:04] <anon> Jordan_U: it boots just fine and is 100% usable, it's just not usable after installation when attempting to standalone boo
[20:05] <EriC^^> anon: type ls -l and see what you get
[20:05] <Jordan_U> anon: OK. What happens when you try to boot your newly installed system?
[20:05] <elichai2> hey
[20:05] <EriC^^> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPGhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/elJOQHH4/1477596588.JPG Jordan_U
[20:05] <elichai2> I want to make my system save logs of the terminal
[20:06] <elichai2> the outputs too
[20:06] <elichai2> (bash_history saves only the commands themself)
[20:06] <anon> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0SasoIfE/1477598774.JPG
[20:06] <elichai2> how can I do it?
[20:07] <bobek> hi all, need help with ACPI on Lenovo t430 ... acpi_listen do not detect FN + F4.. why ?
[20:07] <anon> EriC^^:
[20:08] <EriC^^> anon: ok, try to boot the actual install for a bit
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  you can use the 'tee' command
[20:08] <EriC^^> and try in the grub line memmap=64K$0
[20:08] <moloney> Is it just me, or has persistent network naming gotten worse under systemd?  Now I can't use standard names like "eth0" because "it might race with the kernel naming".  Was this a problem with the old udev rules way of doing things and I just wasn't aware?
[20:09] <moloney> And I have never had an issue with network interface names changing due to a reboot in the past (I know adding a new interface could jumble up the names) even without a udev rule. But I recently saw this on a server where I disabled the systemd method of persistent naming.
[20:09] <elichai2> MonkeyDust, I want something automatic
[20:09] <bobek> hi all, need help with ACPI on Lenovo t430 ... acpi_listen do not detect FN + F4.. why ?
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  to see what 'tee' does, type    ls | tee.dat
[20:09] <nabblet> tomreyn: it's deactivated
[20:09] <elichai2> that will save the last 1GB of terminal history
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> elichai2  to see what 'tee' does, type    ls | tee ls.dat
[20:10] <Jordan_U> moloney: This was indeed a problem before systemd. There have been other solutions to the problem since before systemd, but they weren't used by default.
[20:11] <bobek> anybody help me with acpi ?
[20:12] <elichai2> sorry for disconnecting
[20:13] <moloney> Jordan_U: Good to know, I guess I will have to bite the bullet and embrace the systemd method.  Have I just been lucky in the past with reboots not changing interface names?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> moloney: I believe so, yes.
[20:17] <tomreyn> nabblet: mayber you have some kind of hard disk write protection enabled.
[20:17] <tomreyn> nabbletyou could type "dmesg" in a temrinal while on the ubuntu installer to get an idea of what may be wrong
[20:18] <Jordan_U> moloney: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ indicates that udev had a scheme for trying to permanently assign names like eth0 to interfeces, and list the problems that it had. They don't say if it was ever the default in udev, and I don't know for sure if that was ever used by default in Ubuntu but I don't believe it was.
[20:19] <MuliLPTP> hey fellas, I'm running apache2 on ubuntu 16.04, and am unable to password protect a directory's listings via both the .htaccess file, along with the site.conf file
[20:19] <MuliLPTP> suggestions?
[20:21] <MuliLPTP>         <Directory /var/www/nextcloud/tftproot>
[20:21] <MuliLPTP>                 Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
[20:21] <MuliLPTP>                 Options +Indexes
[20:21] <MuliLPTP>                 AuthType Basic
[20:21] <MuliLPTP>                 AuthName "Restricted Content"
[20:21] <MuliLPTP>                 AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/.htpasswd
[20:22] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | MuliLPTP
[20:23] <jluc> you need some apache extensions for some htaccess commands to work MuliLPTP , did you check that ?
[20:24] <jluc> btw why -Indexes, shjoul
[20:24] <jluc> dnt you prefer -Indexes ?
[20:25] <jluc> why +Indexes
[20:26] <anon> still not booting
[20:26] <anon> wtf
[20:26] <_ramok> good evening
[20:28] <_ramok> I've installed ubuntu 16.04  and wanted to install letsencrypt via apt-get. i'm getting the following messages:  http://pastebin.com/viwqrbcz
[20:28] <_ramok> apt-get -f install also doesn't solve the problem
[20:28] <_ramok> any ideas what i shoul ddo here?
[20:30] <Irany> sudo apt-get autoremove maybe? _ramok
[20:31] <anon> ppf: EriC^^ any ideas?!
[20:31] <MuliLPTP> jluc, http://pastebin.com/R0uU1w94
[20:31] <tomreyn> _ramok: check what's in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages and why it's there, when it shouldn't be
[20:32] <jluc> sorry i cant help MuliLPTP
[20:32] <KingsQuest> if i remove the proposed ubuntu repository can i remove all proposed packages already installed as well ?
[20:33] <anon> could it be a partition map issue?
[20:34] <KingsQuest> furthermore i do not know why i cannot remove proposed packages
[20:34] <_ramok> tomreyn: i've installed mesos on this host.  all i see is this: http://pastebin.com/UERQ4Ces
[20:34] <OerHeks> KingsQuest, reversing proposed is tricky, but can be done http://askubuntu.com/questions/768849/how-to-reverse-proposed-channel-package-upgrade
[20:35] <OerHeks> KingsQuest, especially with any ppa involved, then i would say reinstall
[20:38] <anon> umm
[20:38] <anon> so I installed via the LiveUSB and apparently that fixed the issue
[20:38] <anon> now to just get Clover to take over as my BL and I should be fine
[20:39] <tomreyn> _ramok: i assume this mesos wasn't an ubuntu package?
[20:39] <_ramok> tomreyn: it was
[20:39] <_ramok>  *** 1.0.1-2.0.94.ubuntu1604 500
[20:39] <_ramok>         500 http://repos.mesosphere.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
[20:39] <_ramok>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:39] <tomreyn> _ramok: well that's a third party package.
[20:40] <tomreyn> _ramok: does this exist? /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[20:41] <guillek> hola
[20:41] <tomreyn> hi guillek
[20:41] <_ramok> tomreyn:  no, but /usr/local/lib/python3.5/dist-packages/
[20:44] <tomreyn> _ramok: sudo mv /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages; sudo apt-get -f install
[20:46] <_ramok> tomreyn: worked... thanks!
[20:46] <tomreyn> _ramok: by the way, there is also #ubuntu-de in case you prefer to chat in your native language
[20:46] <_ramok> tomreyn: hehe, thanks, english should be fine, or was it too bad?
[20:47] <anon> and I fixed it all
[20:47] <tomreyn> _ramok: not at all, i didnt notice except for the german language output on th epastebin
[20:48] <_ramok> ah... no worries, english is fine, but thanks anyway
[20:48] <nabblet> tomreyn: i don't even knwo anymore... win 10 won't install, ubuntu won't install... win8? no problem.
[20:48] <anon> booting Mac OS X to test boot, then will confirm Win10 & Ubuntu (again).
[20:48] <anon> Appreciate everything guys'
[20:48] <anon> <3
[20:49] <tomreyn> nabblet: did it work in the past?
[20:49] <tomreyn> nabblet: is this a new system? what is it anyways?
[20:50] <tomreyn> nabblet: also, did you try the dmesg hint i provided?
[20:51] <tomreyn> to get help with your OS independent boot issues, i suggest talking to folks in ##hardware
[20:54] <jluc> does dmesg provide boot-time logs ?
[20:54] <jluc> or all sort of logs ?
[20:55] <tomreyn> kernel specific logs
[20:55] <nabblet> tomreyn: actually it is not my computer but a friends but i got interested after he explained the issue to me. this is the second evening we were working on this. Everything started with a harmles win10 reset/reinstall. thuis must have messed up his install.
[20:55] <genii> jluc: Boot log and stuff like when you plug/unplug devices while the machine is running
[20:55] <OerHeks> with systemd>  systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg  # gives a nice plot
[20:55] <OerHeks> or > journalctl --since=today
[20:56] <tomreyn> he's still in the installation phase, though
[20:56] <nabblet> tomreyn: i just got ubuntu into play because i wanted a "second opinion"... you know, maybe sometime bekomes obvious. but instead it became even weirder since ubuntu seemed to lack the install option O.o
[20:58] <tomreyn> i see
[20:58] <tomreyn> well you have received a bunch of suggestions.
[21:01] <Bashing-om> nabblet: Consider; If Windows is Bios and using all 4 primary partitions, then ubuntu will require the drive to be re-paritioned to accomadate a additional install on the drive . If this is UEFI and a single drive, then ubuntu also will have to be installed in UEFI mode .
[21:07] <nabblet> Bashing-om: thanks for the hint, i am aware of that. Also it turns out that this laptop is one of the el-cheapo kind, with a slightly dumbed down bios and other "treats",
[21:08] <anon> so getting my Ubuntu to work killed my Win10 boot
[21:08] <anon> god dammit
[21:09] <Bashing-om> nabblet: What does ' sudo parted -l ' say about the drives - from a liveDVD(USB) ?
[21:14] <veter> Hello, how to take permission on second HDD in my laptop, that i can work with him like my home dir? http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/16/1027/h_1477602893_3132836_4cdaa360b5.png
[21:14] <nabblet> Bashing-om: can't say, he's in the process of installing win8 now. He needs to have a usable laptop asap. as i said I just used ubuntu for reference/toubleshooting.
[21:14] <nabblet> since this hole incidence is so odd...
[21:14] <Bashing-om> nabblet: K .
[21:15] <nabblet> Bashing-om: oh, i can say. It was efi, the windows reserved partition, 3 ntfs and 1 fat partition. gpt partitiontable
[21:15] <nabblet> have a screenshot of it
[21:16] <nabblet> so i thought the hdd is probably fine (hardware-wise)
[21:17] <peeps[lappy]> where can I disable a service so that it no longer starts upon booting
[21:21] <anon> so I got Ubuntu to not only boot but to boot from Clover
[21:21] <anon> but now my Win10 won't boot
[21:21] <anon> god dammit lol
[21:21] <anon> reflashing my Win10 Setup USB to try and bootrec /rebuildbcd
[21:23] <ootani> おはよう
[21:32] <marekw2143> helllo
[21:33] <marekw2143> anybody here ?
[21:34] <Bashing-om> marekw2143: I am not anybody .. but i am lurking here .
[21:34] <jluc> along with 1814
[21:34] <marekw2143> ok
[21:34] <elias_a> Anybodys body is not here.
[21:35] <elias_a> marekw2143: So ask.
[21:35] <marekw2143> I'm just wondering how can I use Huawei e3372 with Xbuntu
[21:35] <marekw2143> in networkManager i see "Mobile Broadband Not Enabled"
[21:35] <marekw2143> and it's grayed
[21:36] <elias_a> marekw2143: Is this of any help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/757638/can-not-connect-huawei-e3372-modem-on-ubuntu-15-10-please-help
[21:37] <marekw2143> elias_a, thanks
[21:37] <marekw2143> well, I didn't try it
[21:37] <marekw2143> how check mac address ?
[21:37] <veter> marekw2143: ifconfig
[21:38] <marekw2143> ok, so I have wlp2s0 , that's probably wifi
[21:39] <marekw2143> it's possible that modbile modem is named enp1s0 ?
[21:40] <arann> ./help
[21:43] <someone235> Hi, my touchpad scroll doesn't work. Someone knows how to fix this?
[21:44] <MTecknology> When there's a crash and you get a kernel dump in /var/crash/<date>/dump.<date>, how can that file be read? I'm trying to find a non-stripped vmlinux, but I'm failing.
[21:45] <marekw2143> elias_a, well, i've created one
[21:45] <marekw2143> but I don't see it in NM
[21:48] <Tortillion> Hello. Sorry for bothering you again but I have a question. I want to run the command $ xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 at startup, so I  did $ sudo crontab -e and used nano to put in @reboot xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 . But it is not working and when I do sudo crontab -e again the command is gone even though I saved it?
[21:49] <amd> hello
[21:49] <Tortillion> Hello.
[21:50] <amd> can i ask ya sth?
[21:50] <elias_a> amd: Shoot!
[21:50] <Tortillion> Well, I just got Linux yesterday, so I probably don't know.
[21:50] <Tortillion> What is it?
[21:50] <amd> have amd 6670. previous ubunto release i could not use. Now can i use yakkity yak?
[21:51] <Tortillion> Hmmm.
[21:51] <Tortillion> Well I am not sure.
[21:51] <amd> ah
[21:51] <amd> i am sad'
[21:51] <elias_a> marekw2143: might be one of those flipflop devices.
[21:51] <nacc> Tortillion: no need to answer if you don't know :)
[21:51] <Tortillion> Oh.
[21:51] <nacc> Tortillion: is your root crontab empty?
[21:51] <marekw2143> elias_a, flipflop ?
[21:51] <Tortillion> It says
[21:52] <nacc> Tortillion: use a pastebin, don't paste in the channel
[21:52] <Tortillion> I know.
[21:52] <amd> thank you mate'
[21:52] <elias_a> marekw2143: flipflop changes mode from usb memory stick to 3g modem.
[21:52] <Tortillion> It just has comments saying how to use crontab
[21:52] <elias_a> marekw2143: Two functionsa.
[21:52] <elias_a> -a
[21:53] <marekw2143> elias_a, yes, after lsusb i see: Bus 001 Device 012: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Modem/Networkcard
[21:53] <marekw2143> then I think it works in modem mode
[21:53] <elias_a> marekw2143: Check this: http://mlkushan.blogspot.fi/2016/05/huawei-e3372-modem-not-working-with.html
[21:54] <marekw2143> what ?
[21:54] <marekw2143> I thought it will somehow manage to work
[21:54] <elias_a> marekw2143: Modeswitch is the key word for handling the device properly.
[21:55] <elias_a> marekw2143: It will. You'll just have to do some magic. :)
[21:55] <marekw2143> no magic
[21:55] <marekw2143> configuration :)
[21:55] <marekw2143> but
[21:57] <marekw2143> I've added rule as described in link you've pasted elias_a
[21:57] <elias_a> marekw2143: And?
[21:58] <marekw2143> lsusb still  shows: Bus 001 Device 014: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Modem/Networkcard
[21:58] <marekw2143>
[21:58] <marekw2143> I can create connection in "NetworkManager"
[21:58] <elias_a> marekw2143: Well that is correct.
[21:58] <marekw2143> but still see "Mobile Broadband not enabled" and its grayed
[21:58] <marekw2143> and the latter is the problem
[21:59] <elias_a> marekw2143: sudo service network-manager restart
[21:59] <marekw2143> ok, I'll do that
[21:59] <marekw2143> for some moment I'll be offline :)
[21:59] <wolf__> hi
[21:59] <marekw2143> elias_a, it's still grayed
[21:59] <wolf__> hi
[22:00] <marekw2143> maybe I should use wvdial adviced on ##linux
[22:00] <veter> how to take root permission for mount HDD to a user?
[22:01] <elias_a> marekw2143: I'd not use wvdial. It is a pain in the butt.
[22:01] <hippybear> visudo?
[22:01] <wolf__> who can help me
[22:01] <hippybear> isnt that still in ubuntu?
[22:01] <arman> hi
[22:01] <hippybear> veter, edit the visudo
[22:01] <elias_a> marekw2143: Eject the stick and plug in again.
[22:01] <isene> How do I intercept the event of closing my laptop lid and run a script on close and open?
[22:01] <Bashing-om> !ask | wolf__
[22:02] <arman> salam dustan :)
[22:02] <arman> irani darim?
[22:02] <Blue1> veter: the user would need root permission (sudo for example) to mount a device.  Such as:  sudo mount /dev/sdax /mnt      that uses the predefined system mount point
[22:03] <wolf__> need help
[22:04] <Bashing-om> wolf__: ^^ we can not help if you do not state the issue .
[22:04] <PriorityMail> uk*
[22:05] <john_rambo> I cant update .... This is the problem https://paste.ubuntu.com/23390307/
[22:06] <Blue1> john_rambo: did you try a:  sudo apt-get -f install
[22:06] <veter> Blue1: i need to use big partition on second HDD for media files, video downloading without entering root pwd.
[22:06] <Blue1> veter: yeah sudo will do that for you
[22:06] <isene> How do I intercept the event of closing my laptop lid and run a script on close and open? ... anyone?
[22:07] <john_rambo> Blue1: Same thing
[22:07] <Blue1> veter: as long as the user is part of /etc/group  --
[22:07] <Blue1> john_rambo: usually a forbidden error means you do NOT have permission
[22:08] <elias_a> marekw2143: I have to hit the bed now. Hope you will fix it.
[22:08] <john_rambo> Blue1: Should I try a different mirror ?
[22:08] <Blue1> john_rambo: you did to a sudo apt-get update before running the upgrade, correct?
[22:08] <john_rambo> Blue1: Yes
[22:09] <Blue1> john_rambo: you may have too -- yes - that is what the error is saying - you don't have permission to access.  That is not a repo I am familiar with.
[22:09] <john_rambo> Blue1: OKay
[22:10] <marekw2143> elias_a, thanks for help
[22:10] <marekw2143> I hope too
[22:10] <marekw2143> have good sleep !
[22:10] <Faizan> Hi. Not sure if this is the correct place to ask about a little help regarding iptables setup?
[22:11] <Blue1> veter: find the line in /etc/group that looks like:  sudo:x:27:YourNameHere -- add the user(s) then logout/back in again to re-read /etc/group -- you can also use sudoers
[22:11] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Faizan
[22:12] <Blue1> veter: that will then allow a user to mount/manage devices without being root
[22:12] <Bashing-om> Faizan: If in respect to 'buntu , ues ask here . omeone woll know .
[22:12] <Faizan> Okay but isn't it better to make sure rather than being told to go to another channel?
[22:15] <isene> Just ask the question - instead of asking to ask a question and then asking if the asking of a question wouldn't be the right thing to do, etc
[22:15] <isene> If you're very lucky, then someone will offer help
[22:15] <_ramok> is someone running an haproxy 1.6.9 with an ssl certificate? i'm running into trouble because it always tells me [ALERT] 300/220701 (41) : parsing [/tmp/tmpupsu_74v:72] : 'bind *:443' : unable to load SSL private key from PEM file '/opt/haproxy/certs/awe.felsdf.io.pem'. [ALERT] 300/220701 (41) : Error(s) found in configuration file : /tmp/tmpupsu_74v  and i'm not sure what else to do. i've concatenated the .pem file in the order cert, key, chain
[22:15] <Faizan> Okay, so I'm setting up ip tables to accept from only ports 22, 80, and reject everything else. I've managed that, and now I'm trying to create a ruleset that limits connections to ssh so that no IP can send more than 15 connection attemps each minute. This, I'm having trouble with
[22:15] <tgm4883> Faizan: no not really
[22:15] <Blue1> Faizan: just ask the question.  it is easier for all.  If another channel would service your needs better, people can best guide you, rather then playing 20 questions.
[22:16] <Faizan> Fair enough guys. I've asked the question above :)
[22:18] <Blue1> i just looked at my iptables -- I do port redirection -- it's been so long since I've done this.
[22:19] <teward> Faizan: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139285/limit-max-connections-per-ip-address-and-new-connections-per-second-with-iptable
[22:19] <cian-w_> hey
[22:19] <someone235> Hi, my touchpad scroll doesn't work. Someone knows how to fix this?
[22:19] <teward> Faizan: you have to add a replacement rule for port 22 and then remove the older port 22 allow rule
[22:20] <Faizan> hmm
[22:20] <Faizan> http://pastebin.com/1u1sjYDS - I wrote something like that just now
[22:20] <Faizan> But amn't sure how I could test it
[22:20] <ek0> rver irc.twitch.tv
[22:21] <anon> Just wanted to thank everybody that helped me. I finally got my triple boot set up completely done with everything bootable and running perfect. OS X, windows 10, Ubuntu. Yay
[22:22] <Wulf> someone235: how do you want to scroll it?
[22:22] <Wulf> someone235: xinput set-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' 'Synaptics Edge Scrolling' 1, 1, 1
[22:23] <someone235> Wulf, with two fingers
[22:23] <Wulf> someone235: oh, that one. Maybe some other option
[22:28] <someone235> Wulf, I'm not sure what device to choose here: http://pastie.org/private/o2qtkzewdt9tryo7rtm68q
[22:28] <someone235> "Virtual core pointer"?
[22:31] <ivankoop> hello
[22:40] <veter> Blue1 great men!
[22:41] <Dotanuki> wow this channel is rich of people
[22:43] <nomic> z.z.z
[22:44] <Tortillion> Hello. Sorry for bothering you again but I have a question. I want to run the command $ xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 at startup, so I  did $ sudo crontab -e and used nano to put in @reboot xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 . But it is not working and when I do sudo crontab -e again the command is gone even though I saved it?
[22:44] <juanonymous> i have downloaded utorrent as a torrent client for ubuntu but each time i get to finish a download, i have to download it again with transmission
[22:44] <juanonymous> is there a way to disable this transmission?
[22:45] <nabblet> Bashing-om: thanks for your interest!
[22:45] <nabblet> tomreyn: thank you for your help
[22:46] <someone235> Wulf, I don't have this option at any listed device
[22:50] <nomic> z.
[22:50] <Tameiki> A que coucou !
[22:51] <Tameiki> À travers mes idées à la con, je me suis demandé: Vu qu'il existe des modem en PCI-e, est-il possible d'utiliser un serveur Linux comme box internet. La réponse est "oui" (via le paquet pppoe), mais je ne trouve que des modem 56k. Il faut utiliser quoi pour l'ADSL2+ ?
[22:51] <dtcrshr> !fr
[22:51] <mabus> I want to install a custom compiled version of openssl. how can i do so without clobbering everything that currently depends on it such as ubuntu-server* ?
[22:51] <Tameiki> Errr
[22:52] <Tameiki> Sry, wrong window :x
[22:52] <dtcrshr> np
[22:52] <nacc> mabus: why do you want to do this?
[22:52] <mabus> dont really need help on the openssl front just what the usual process with apt is
[22:53] <mabus> nacc: i need to test that my servers do not support sslv2, so counter intuitively i need support to initiate sslv2 connections
[22:53] <mabus> to verify my other systems can't
[22:53] <nacc> mabus: if you absolutely know what you're doing, I'd just build it in a PPA
[22:53] <mabus> okay thanks, how does apt manage priority of which package to install
[22:54] <nacc> mabus: well, i'd suggest using proper versioning
[22:54] <nacc> mabus: rather than pinning to your ppa, as that will lead to you missing security updates, i assume
[22:54] <nacc> mabus: but you might read through `man apt_preferences`
[22:55] <mabus> what do you mean by using proper versioning? I'm kind of weak in package management/typical development practices
[22:55] <mabus> like downloading each new release of openssl when it comes out and creating a new version by tagging it with -sslv2support or something?
[22:56] <mabus> i will read man apt_preferences for sure though, appreciate the informatino
[22:56] <_ramok> hey
[22:56] <_ramok> how can i bring the content of an certificate file into one single line with a unix command?
[22:57] <nacc> mabus: you don't want your version to be after the next published version for a package, so let's ubuntu is shipping version 3, you might make yours version 4~mabus which says that antyhing that sorts after 4~mabus (~ puts yours before 4 itself) will take precedence
[22:57] <maxiideapad> hey guys
[22:59] <shahid_> hi
[22:59] <mabus> nacc: okay great makes sense - when does this versioning come into play? when creating a ppa? is that definitely the only right way to do things? i do only have 3 systems I need to patch and I don't own any other system to stand up as a ppa but could do if requried
[23:00] <nacc> mabus: you can also build the packages locally, but that assumes you know how :)
[23:00] <nacc> mabus: i'm not sure what is best for your particular environment
[23:00] <mabus> i can rebuild a package i just get scared when purging it wants to delete ubuntu-server*
[23:00] <mabus> so i dont know whats the usual process for replacing a package things depend on like that
[23:00] <nacc> right, so you wouldn't ever purge it, you would just change what version is installed
[23:00] <nacc> where your version only has one change
[23:01] <rocket__> all works fine but the workspaces crash sometimes
[23:01] <nacc> but you don't know want to miss out on security fixes, so i think you want  to take any ubuntu updates, if they happen, and then redo your changes on top
[23:01] <rocket__> is that normal?
[23:01] <rocket__> they seem to be a bit buggy
[23:03] <mabus> nacc: ok so if i build a deb package for openssl with my fixes
[23:04] <lbracher> Hi there! I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity and I'm having some issues. First, all window captions, all file names on nautilus and all menus where letterless. I rebooted and now I'm without mouse pointer. I tried modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse as well as service lightdm restart and using gsettings, but none worked. Could you help me with this issue? Thanks in advance! :)
[23:04] <mabus> (i can take responsibility to stay on top of openssl updates, security is our biz actually - def wont hold you responsible :))
[23:04] <mabus> but if i install that with dpkg -i its installed over the existing version and i'm good? what do i do to rebuild things against that updated version?
[23:05] <nacc> mabus: what do you want to rebuild?
[23:05] <mabus> sslscan as an example
[23:05] <mabus> i think i might need to rebuild nmap too im not sure if it has built in ssl libraries or relies on system
[23:06] <mabus> (we are a security company i'm not a bad guy)
[23:06] <rocket__> im the only one who has issues with work spaces?
[23:07] <nacc> mabus: you would need to rebuild those pacakges too, which is another reason to maybe use a ppa to do so
[23:07] <Faizan> If I have a few pc's, inlcuding alice and bob, how can I configure my iptables so that only alice can ssh into bob, and no one else can ssh into bob?
[23:08] <Tortillion> Hello. Sorry for bothering you again but I have a question. I want to run the command $ xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 at startup, so I  did $ sudo crontab -e and used nano to put in @reboot xinput -set-prop "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick" "Device Enabled" 0 . But it is not working and when I do sudo crontab -e again the command is gone even though I saved it?
[23:10] <nacc> Tortillion: ignore the xinput bit, try to edit the crontab with any old command see if it stays saved
[23:10] <nacc> Tortillion: pastebin the exact output
[23:10] <mabus> nacc: ill definitely suggest a ppa as a desirable future step - but i also just had to suggest the admin remove a script that creates the priv/pub keypair for you to log into this server, on the same server. just striving for functionality today, security is a constant fight
[23:10] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: You can use `sudo crontab -l` to view it before and after.
[23:11] <KingsQuest> thats a nice Alps sticks
[23:11] <nacc> mabus: understood
[23:11] <mabus> i guess that makes sense though, manually compile all packages that require my patched openssl
[23:11] <mabus> because otherwise none of the binaries you have are linked to it and all ubuntu is doing is downloading binaries
[23:12] <Tortillion> I will.
[23:12] <Tortillion> Thank you
[23:12] <mabus> thanks for your help nacc
[23:12] <nacc> mabus: right, it will only update the libs, it won't rebuild on its own
[23:12] <mabus> i was just worried about clobbering something in the meanwhile
[23:12] <nacc> mabus: np, you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server or even possibly #ubuntu-devel (some of the security folks are probably there), and they may have better insight
[23:13] <mabus> when i install my updated version with dpkg, does that mean the repo version stays installed as well
[23:13] <mabus> and all the things i didnt recompile are using that separate library?
[23:13] <newscripter> alright guys. What's better? Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE?
[23:14] <nacc> newscripter: not really ontopic for the support channel
[23:14] <nacc> newscripter: whatever you prefer is better for you
[23:14] <newscripter> sorry, which channel would be more appropriate?
[23:14] <nacc> newscripter: probably #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:14] <newscripter> thank you
[23:14] <nacc> mabus: the repo version is replaced
[23:15] <nacc> mabus: everything in the system that will load libssl will use the one from your library
[23:15] <Tortillion> http://pastebin.com/rVUpGehs
[23:15] <nacc> mabus: openssl is a source package, which produces multiple binary packages
[23:15] <Tortillion> And crontab -l says no crontab for Tortillion
[23:15] <nacc> mabus: libssl is used at runtime by applications, libssl-dev is used at build-time
[23:15] <nacc> Tortillion: it would of course be `sudo crontab -l`, you're trying to edit the root user's crontab
[23:16] <Tortillion> I saved it, then exited crontab, then reentered crontab thats the pastebin
[23:16] <Tortillion> I triedthat
[23:16] <Tortillion> Says no crontab for root
[23:16] <mabus> nacc: wait if everything installed uses my new library why do i need to recompile things that depend on it? because they may have been ./configured with -no-sslv2?
[23:17] <Faizan> If I have a few pc's, inlcuding alice and bob, how can I configure my iptables so that only alice can ssh into bob, and no one else can ssh into bob?
[23:17] <nacc> mabus: you were the one that suggested you need to rebuild packages :)
[23:17] <mabus> heh fair enough
[23:17] <nacc> mabus: if all you need is library support, just rebuilding openssl shoudl be sufficient
[23:18] <orlock> Faizan: deny everything, alllow alice?
[23:18] <nacc> mabus: i note that several packages have build-dependencies against libssl-dev, so if turning on sslv2 changes headers or something, you might get different binaries
[23:18] <Faizan> yeah orlock
[23:18] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: Do you exit the editor properly after saving?
[23:19] <Tortillion> Yes
[23:19] <Tortillion> I click control O
[23:19] <Tortillion> Then control X
[23:19] <nacc> Tortillion: i note that your pastebin shows 23 lines in the crontab, but your paste doesn't show all 23 lines
[23:19] <Tortillion> Really?
[23:20] <nacc> Tortillion: please use `sudo crontab -l`
[23:20] <mabus> nacc: hmm okay, i guess ill try on a vm or something now, still a bit nervous
[23:20] <Tortillion> I typed in 'sudo crontab -l'
[23:20] <Tortillion> It says:
[23:20] <Tortillion> no crontab for root
[23:21] <Tortillion> Thats all it says
[23:21] <nacc> Tortillion: then I don't believe it was properly saved earlier, but dont' know why
[23:21] <Tortillion> Hmmm.
[23:22] <Tortillion> I see this when typing crontab -e
[23:22] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: You can copy one of the files in /etc/cron.d
[23:22] <Tortillion> no crontab for tortillion - using an empty one
[23:22] <nacc> Tortillion: or you could edit /etc/crontab, iirc
[23:22] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: Copy it to a new file in /etc/cron.d, then edit it.
[23:22] <Tortillion> Got it
[23:22] <Tortillion> Thanks.
[23:23] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: Remember to keep root in the line as the user to execute the command.
[23:23] <ubuntu558> hello! im trying to install ubuntu but i keep getting following errors: input/output error during write on dev/sda and error fsyncin/closing /dev/sda:input/output. what can i do?
[23:23] <Tortillion> So I do sudo -i?
[23:23] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: Yes.
[23:23] <Tortillion> Got it
[23:23] <Tortillion> Thanks
[23:23] <Rarrikins> Tortillion: No problem.
[23:24] <lbracher> xset dpms force off didn't worked in my case as well
[23:24] <maxiideapad> hey whats a good chat?
[23:25] <maxiideapad> other then this
[23:25] <maxiideapad> hey im selling puter
[23:26] <lbracher> Anybody knows this mouse pointer issue?
[23:28] <Tortillion> Ibracher, what is the error?
[23:29] <Tortillion> I had this error where the mouse moved by itself.
[23:30] <Brisr> I've got a webpage using a bash script/ wget. How can I remove the images from the html?
[23:31] <lbracher> Tortillion, the mouse pointer disappeared. Even reboot doesn't work to get it back.
[23:31] <maxiideapad> damn
[23:31] <maxiideapad> this is so dumb
[23:31] <lbracher> I tried to go to virtual consoles, used xset, gsettings, modprobe, etc
[23:31] <lbracher> Nothing works
[23:31] <maxiideapad> ive also been up 2 days
[23:32] <nacc> !ot | maxiideapad
[23:32] <Tortillion> Ibracher:  I don't know how to fix that, sorry. I only know how to fix it randomly moving everyware.
[23:33] <Tortillion> Rarrikins: When trying to create a new file in /etc/cron.d it says permission denied
[23:33] <lbracher> Tortillion, me neither. I'm stuck. And unfortunately there are some apps on Ubuntu that needs the mouse.
[23:33] <nacc> Tortillion: use sudo
[23:33] <nacc> Tortillion: it is expected, I think, that you know when to use sudo or not, if you are trying to edit a system crontab (or root's)
[23:36] <Tortillion> Well some solution I just found on the internet, is to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 , which brings you into a fullscreen terminal, and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 .
[23:37] <Tortillion> Oh thank you, sorry for my ignorance, nacc
[23:37] <Tortillion> I should think before.
[23:37] <Tortillion> Sorry for wasting your  time
[23:41] <konrados> OK, so now I'll try :) I have two disks. I've heard this is possible (besides internets somehow confirm this) that it's possible to keep the system on one disk, and swap file on the other. But is this reasonable? Let's take two scenarios, in the first one I believe it makes sense. Let's say the swap file is on one disk: Scenario #1. I use a browser to eeee browse the web, now, when there are images on one of them, a browser loads them
[23:41] <konrados> into memory obviously but also keeps it on disk as a cache, in the same moment, I'm out of RAM, so the SWAP gets in, and the system puts the image on the same disk in swap, right? So in this scenario, having a swap file on a separate disk would be reasonable, right? But what about scenario #2. - I'm working on a project, let's say in some text editor and refresh the page in a browser from time to time (no images) - I'm also out of RAM,
[23:41] <konrados> but will keeping swap file on separate disk help me in any way?
[23:42] <konrados> Oh, I didn't realized it's so long...
[23:44] <nacc> konrados: honestly, it feels like overthinking it
[23:44] <nacc> konrados: i haven't had a swap partition in years
[23:45] <konrados> I have not too much memory, but an additional, unnecessary disk, so I thought, that maybe I'll use it somehow, nacc ...
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