[02:48] <CIA-5> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r768 ubuntu/ (72 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 60
[02:50] <CIA-5> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r769 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 60ubuntu1
[05:21] <pseydtonne> Howdy!
[17:20] <GaryvdM> Hi  - Is there a way to provide oem-config a preseed file.
[17:21] <GaryvdM> I know the local, tz, and kb layout, So I only want it to ask for username, password, and host name
[17:22] <GaryvdM> I would have expected oem-config-prepare to accept some options, but it does not.


[09:22] <MCR1> bregma, fginther, Mirv: Hi :) I know it is Sunday, but this fixes the calculation of the top-left corner in Grid and needs approval: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/compiz/compiz.merge-fix1139835-grid-wrong-top-left-corner-calculation/+merge/151358
[09:22] <MCR1> So, if you have a minute...
[15:07] <cjohnston_> I created a .desktop file and added it to the unity launcher.. When I click the icon the first time, it loads just fine.. I click it again, and the app starts a 2nd time. Is there a way to make it work like any other (say firefox) where if you click it the second time, you are taken to the app, instead of opening a second one?
[15:32] <jjed> cjohnston_:  Probably a window matching problem. Try setting a StartupWMClass: http://askubuntu.com/q/36434
[15:34] <cjohnston_> jjed: I already have: StartupWMClass=Terminal Velocity
[15:34] <cjohnston_> tho I'm guessing maybe the space is illegal?
[15:35] <jjed> cjohnston_: WM_CLASSes usually aren't two words... did you check with xprop?
[15:41] <cjohnston_> awesomeness jjed.. thanks much
[16:15] <cjohnston_> jjed: you still around by chance?
[16:15] <jjed> yes
[16:15] <cjohnston_> jjed: it works now.. I just ran it through the desktop-file-validator, and got an error. im not exactly sure how to handle
[16:16] <cjohnston_> mind trying to assist me?
[16:16] <jjed> paste it to pastebin?
[16:16] <cjohnston_> file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5582590/
[16:17] <cjohnston_> error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5582594/
[16:19] <jjed> cjohnston_: Just replace your ' quotes with " quotes in the exec line
[16:20] <cjohnston_> sweet.. other than that, how does the file look?
[16:24] <jjed> cjohnston_: everything looks fine
[16:24] <cjohnston_> thanks jjed


[01:05] <InHisName> @later tell pangolin http://www.electronicspoint.com/usb-test-t75343.html            ---        http://www.diy-computer-repair.com/Repair-USB.html <-- do it your self stuff.  e-book link might be interesting....... well.... no -- $67 [03:11] <pangolin> InHisName: thanks for the links :)
[03:20] <InHisName> Yes, that last one just might be the one to turn the trick !
[03:48] <waltman> *YAWN*
[14:16]  * ChinnoDog yawns
[15:05] <JonathanD> morning
[15:07] <ChinnoDog> morning--
[15:07] <JonathanD> hey
[15:16] <ChinnoDog> I am going on a segway tour of DC today, but that is later.
[15:17] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: there's a dc ubu hour, have you tried it yet?
[15:18] <jedijf> District of Columbia
[15:18] <jedijf> Every Saturday, 4:00PM @ Taste of India, Woodley Park Metro - BCurtisWX
[15:19] <ChinnoDog> I've asked peeps in #ubuntu-us-dc about that but I don't get the impression anyone shows up
[15:21] <rmg51> ChinnoDog: be the first 8-)
[15:23] <ChinnoDog> If I am the first then I'll just have my own Ubuntu Hour :-p
[15:38] <ChinnoDog> I'd have it at HacDC though
[15:38] <ChinnoDog> Assuming I become a member
[16:17] <JonathanD> Hey hey.
[17:05] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: so you liked HacDC? Awesome. I wasn't sure.
[17:07] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: Yes, it is small and cluttered though.
[17:09] <jedijf> ok, that's what i took the cozy as
[17:09] <jedijf> that's hackerspace'ish
[17:34] <pleia2> I think cluttered is a hackerspace requirement
[17:38] <InHisName> good afternoon
[18:09] <InHisName> Joe_CoT: having spelling troubles ?
[18:10] <Joe_CoT> ignore the man behind the curtain
[18:16]  * Resistance throws a flashbang behind the curtain.
[18:16] <Resistance> no i think i'll confront he who is behind the curtain >:)
[18:59] <InHisName> come back to disturb that man behind the curtain ?
[21:21] <andrew> It's been a long day.
[21:34] <Resistance> actually i've got a selfdestructing computer which randomly closes out channels and stuff
[21:35]  * Resistance is annoyed about this
[21:51] <pangolin> /ctcp Resistance KILLTAB #ubuntu-us-pa
[21:51] <InHisName> Do not resist, you will be assimilated by the random self destructor
[21:51] <pangolin> :P


[00:00] <valorie> ahoneybun: awesome work getting the slides into the docs wiki
[00:00] <ahoneybun> valorie: thanks
[00:00] <ahoneybun> I also updated apachelogger's package on my system with them
[00:00] <ahoneybun> in the en folder anyway
[00:00] <valorie> I saw that, and am envious of your understanding of the systems
[00:01] <ahoneybun> understanding lol
[00:01] <ahoneybun> I also copied his work into my own branch on lp
[00:01] <valorie> I installed gitmagic to read it (it's a book about using git) but I can't even get the book to open
[00:01] <valorie> pfff
[00:02] <ahoneybun> and I did this https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/trusty/+merge/205511
[00:14] <ahoneybun> valorie: the next thing to do with the slides are getting the ones in the correct lang
[00:15] <ahoneybun> brb
[00:15] <valorie> oh, for sure
[00:15] <valorie> that isn't included in the slide package?
[00:16] <ahoneybun> back
[00:16] <ahoneybun> all in english
[00:36] <ahoneybun> valorie: was the call for a merge a good thing to do?
[00:36] <valorie> call for a merge?
[00:36] <ahoneybun> yea
[00:36] <ahoneybun> https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/trusty/+merge/205511
[00:37] <valorie> ah, I see
[00:37] <valorie> the idea is good; we'll see if the technical aspects are good too
[00:41] <ahoneybun> yea
[00:52] <soee> hmm do you also have Firefox 25 available only not 27 ?
[00:56] <soee> ah it is in proposed
[00:57] <soee> but beta :)  27.0~b6+build1-0ubuntu1
[01:09] <ahoneybun> soee: I have 26 installed
[01:09] <ahoneybun> by default
[01:10] <soee> on trusty ?
[01:10] <ahoneybun> nope
[01:10] <ahoneybun> saucy
[01:10] <soee> ah ok :)
[01:10] <soee> on trusty its 25 and 27 beta in proposed
[01:10] <ahoneybun> 25 by default?
[01:11] <soee> yesd\
[01:11] <soee> yes
[01:13] <yofel> hm, it's been stuck in proposed for a while now, curious
[01:13] <yofel> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+publishinghistory
[01:16] <soee> and iv seen several news on various website that 27 is available for 14.04
[02:56] <ahoneybun_> I guess I should grab some more screenshot of the slides in differents langs then valorie
[02:57] <valorie> why do we need to screenshot the slides?
[02:57] <valorie> can't we just grab them from the package on the ISO?
[02:58] <ahoneybun_> I screenshot them
[02:59] <valorie> seems like unnecessary work to me
[02:59] <ahoneybun_> I did not think of the iso
[03:10] <ahoneybun_> valorie: I made a kubuntu wallpaper lol
[03:11] <valorie> nice
[03:11] <ahoneybun_> I'll upload it and show you
[06:31] <ScottK> Releasing KDE SC 4.10.5 to saucy-updates.
[07:55] <jarkko___> have you noticed any issues with vlc lately?
[08:52] <apachelogger> bug 1232156 :/
[09:28] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 1277312 should land in proposed queue soon
[09:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: mhhh, libkubuntu demo says support complete becuase the demo isn't really doing anything anymore (i.e. creates empty languages and empty languages are always assumed complete - same when the actually dep file cannot be opened)
[09:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: it creates langauges? where?
[09:52] <apachelogger> Riddell:     Kubuntu::Language l10n;
[09:52] <apachelogger> that's Language(QObject *parent=0) which internally leads to no language and consequently all queries will do nothing becuase technically the instance is not valid
[09:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: perhaps the default ctor should simply be made private
[09:53] <apachelogger> there is no rationale for constructing a Language without an actual Language string
[09:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: ah so "Constructs an instance with no language set" is pretty useless?
[09:56] <apachelogger> yeah
[09:57] <apachelogger> if you'd want to get the overall state of langauge supportedness you'd want to use the languagecollection
[10:06] <shadeslayer> \o
[10:10] <Riddell> seems debian are going for systemd
[10:11] <Riddell> I wonder if this is a good thing or not for us
[10:11] <shadeslayer> !testers | KDE SC 4.12.2 for Precise in Kubuntu Staging PPA needs testing
[10:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, should be good for release now
[10:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you want me to upload it or will you?
[10:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll upload
[10:18] <apachelogger> once I figured out what's wrong with the symbols file :S
[10:18] <apachelogger> for some reason it didn't want to detect symbol retraction, silly thing
[10:38] <apachelogger> ScottK, Riddell: libkubuntu should arrive in source new soonishy
[10:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://trello.com/c/NZ1tG6nq
[10:40] <Riddell> accepted!
[10:41] <jarkko___> i got snapshots running even the program is nowehre to be seen
[10:41] <jarkko___> bug somewhere...?
[10:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: review boards don't have a postpone column
[10:42] <apachelogger> because the task might be pointless by then
[10:42] <apachelogger> report upstream
[10:42] <apachelogger> "alas, a bug should be filed against muon because ultimately it should simply hold off on notifications while apt is locked."
[10:42] <apachelogger> I keep quoting myself, I am not sure why
[10:45] <shadeslayer> Uhm did anyone test the 12.04.4 ISO's?
[10:45] <shadeslayer> because there is no panel post install
[10:45] <shadeslayer> oh there it is
[10:46] <shadeslayer> kvm view port is smaller
[10:46] <Riddell> :)
[10:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330980 < move card to done?
[10:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: E: libkubuntu-dbg: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-lgpl
[10:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: approved! (assuming you'll fix that)
[11:08] <apachelogger> oh oh
[11:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: I always wonder, where to point with the kde license header
[11:10] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[11:10] <Riddell> apachelogger: LGPL 2
[11:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: but it's not
[11:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: pointed to the symlink one
[11:11] <apachelogger> http://commits.kde.org/scratch/sitter/libkubuntu/0fee7c6f71ce53c54d99875baa9d7547a9da4c1d
[11:16] <Riddell> that'll do
[11:21]  * apachelogger has a serious headache today
[11:22]  * Riddell gives apachelogger an Indian Head Massage
[11:23] <apachelogger> weeeh
[11:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: on a new precise kubuntu install (on ec2) if I add staging PPA and dist-upgrade it removes the world http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/dist-upgrade
[11:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you also need backports
[11:33] <shadeslayer> I've also uploaded KDE Workspace 4.11.6 for trusty/saucy/precise
[11:34] <Riddell> ah, soprano is missing
[11:34] <Riddell> yo da man
[11:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you want to test the new kcm locale patch based on libkubuntu before I upload?
[11:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: nah, live on the edge, upload then test :)
[11:39] <apachelogger> alas, if there is breakage it likely is of the more subtle kind anyway
[11:39] <apachelogger> ok
[11:39] <apachelogger> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=clones/kde-runtime/sitter/kubuntu.git&a=commit&h=b22c86a0fd4ac303f6fc17f2e52713a8a2f71951 for ref
[11:41] <apachelogger> from: 7 files changed, 662 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
[11:41] <apachelogger> to:  4 files changed, 291 insertions(+), 40 deletions(-)
[11:41] <apachelogger> \o/
[11:44] <ahoneybun_> apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/trusty/+merge/205511
[11:45] <apachelogger> ahoneybun_: yes, what does it do?
[11:46] <ahoneybun_> it would merge your file from your git repo into the main kubuntu-docs branch
[11:46] <ahoneybun_> *files
[11:47] <apachelogger> ahoneybun_: why would we still use the docs branch? :P
[11:47] <ahoneybun_> the package for 13.10 was uploaded there so I thought we are
[11:48] <apachelogger> nah, since we don't write docbooks there's no need for a branch
[11:48] <ahoneybun_> docbook = xml. xml = khelpcenter
[11:48] <apachelogger> see readme
[11:50] <ahoneybun_> This is a nice wrapper around upstream's wiki2docbook tool?
[11:54] <ahoneybun_> apachelogger: how do I use dput to upload my changes?
[11:55] <apachelogger> you can't only developers can
[11:55] <apachelogger> well, you can, except the server will reject your upload
[11:56] <apachelogger> ahoneybun_: is there a reason you want a new upload?
[11:56] <ahoneybun_> I see
[11:56] <apachelogger> just for the slides? because I'd wait until there are some translations
[11:56] <ahoneybun_> I added 14.04 screenshots on the wiki
[11:56] <ahoneybun_> yea
[11:56] <ahoneybun_> oh
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun_: will you be working on Tomahawk?
[11:56] <shadeslayer> or should I take that up?
[11:56] <apachelogger> ahoneybun_: right, get some translations, then poke me and I'll upload a new snapshot for you :)
[11:56] <ahoneybun_> shadeslayer: well I need a mentor as I think I am done with the copyright but not sure
[11:57] <ahoneybun_> apachelogger: sweet thanks :)
[11:57] <ahoneybun_> you mean translations slides?
[11:57] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun_: meh, usually we don't bother with updating the copyright since that just introduces needless delta with Debian
[11:57] <shadeslayer> just upload it somewhere and poke someone to have a look
[11:57] <ahoneybun_> shadeslayer: me and yofel did
[11:58] <ahoneybun_> it is on yofel's machine
[11:58] <ahoneybun_> ec2 I thik
[11:58] <yofel> shadeslayer: tomahawk isn't in debian
[11:58] <shadeslayer> oh
[11:58] <shadeslayer> bah :/
[11:59] <ahoneybun_> is there a reason why clementine will not be updated by tomahawk?
[11:59] <ahoneybun_> *but tomahawk will
[11:59] <yofel> shadeslayer: could you look at it? 'ssh -p 2224<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:59] <yofel> I just added your key
[12:00] <shadeslayer> ack
[12:00] <shadeslayer> post lunch
[12:00] <yofel> thanks
[12:00] <ahoneybun_> yofel: I have a new key
[12:00] <yofel> is it on lp?
[12:00] <ahoneybun_> yes
[12:00] <yofel> Y510P?
[12:00] <ahoneybun_> yes
[12:01] <yofel> added
[12:01] <ahoneybun_> cool
[12:07] <apachelogger> man
[12:07] <apachelogger> intertubes so slow :'<
[12:07]  * apachelogger gets some coffee
[12:07] <Riddell> KDE SC 4.12.2 for Precise in Kubuntu Staging PPA installs and runs good for me
[12:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do I need to write that anywhere? ↑
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Riddell, saucy staging ppa works fine here too
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nah, I'd just wait for Workspace to build, test that, and then copy over to backports and release
[12:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: when are you going to blog about drivermanager?
[12:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: before I go home this evening
[12:09] <apachelogger> ok
[12:09] <shadeslayer> going to club with synaptiks replacement
[12:10] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, kde-touchpad ?
[12:10] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yes
[12:10] <BluesKaj> works fine here
[12:11] <BluesKaj> on 14.04
[12:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please make them two posts
[12:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: more publicity?
[12:11] <apachelogger> bundle posts are terribly inefficient from a PR POV
[12:12]  * apachelogger fiddles with kde-runtime
[12:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: regarding https://trello.com/c/EzuZZKNG I don't see a hard coded branch
[12:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that's in kde-l10n-common I think
[12:21] <apachelogger> that's the problem, the script to build language-pack-common is in kde-l10n-common, and builds both at the sametime for apparently no good reason
[12:21] <apachelogger> at the same time you cannot build language-pack-common without building kde-l10n-common making updates to the former unnecessarily expensive in terms of build time
[12:21] <shadeslayer> what's language-pack-common?
[12:22] <apachelogger> language-pack-kde-common
[12:22] <apachelogger> it's the same as kde-l10n-common except for our language-pack packages
[12:23] <apachelogger> which actually it means it is not really the same because the former works on tarballs, whereas the latter simply creates native sources without any content
[12:27] <apachelogger>   Uploading kde-runtime_4.12.2-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done.
[12:27] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[12:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^
[12:32] <apachelogger> ohohoh
[12:32] <apachelogger> no
[12:32]  * apachelogger cries
[12:33] <mamarley> What's wrong?
[12:33] <jarkko___> anyone know if there is known bug that system keeps programs running, even they should not?
[12:35] <apachelogger> no
[12:35] <apachelogger> mamarley: ubuntu archive driving me nuts
[12:35] <mamarley> Sorry :(
[12:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dude, where is $BRANCH defined?
[12:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: config I presume
[12:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: I totally cannot read britney output
[12:54] <apachelogger> kubuntu-docs/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: khelpcenter
[12:54] <apachelogger> wtf
[12:54] <apachelogger> huh
[12:55] <apachelogger> no such package
[12:58] <apachelogger>   Uploading kubuntu-docs_14.04ubuntu2_source.changes: done.
[12:58] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[12:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's right, there is no such package
[12:58] <Riddell> you want khelpcenter4 I think
[12:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, we had a khelpcenter | www-browser dep earlier
[12:58] <apachelogger> and apparently no one ever noticed that khelpcenter does not exist :S
[12:59] <apachelogger> has been that way since kde4, such fun
[12:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: anyway, I still do not know why kubuntu-full doesn't install
[12:59] <apachelogger> and I cannot read that britney output, so we are all lost :P
[12:59] <Riddell> apachelogger: good thing we have britney to tell us :)
[13:00] <apachelogger> skipped: kubuntu-meta (6 <- 47)
[13:00] <apachelogger>     got: 86+0: i-25:a-1:a-60
[13:00] <apachelogger>     * arm64: kubuntu-full
[13:00] <apachelogger> have fun parsing that :P
[13:00] <Riddell> yes, arm64 broken
[13:00] <apachelogger> but why
[13:01] <apachelogger> I casually strolled through some depends of kubuntu-full and all of them were available, so it probably isn't some low level dep problem
[13:02] <Riddell> available on arm64?
[13:03] <apachelogger> published in archive for arm64
[13:17] <Riddell> well phonon isn't compiled on arm64
[13:17] <Riddell> which I started looking into last week but let me look more
[13:19] <Riddell> ah yes qtscript is at 5.1.1 while qtbase is at 5.0
[13:19] <Riddell> because of a debian sync
[13:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: 4.7.0 is compiled on arm64
[13:20] <apachelogger> so that doesn't block kubuntu-meta
[13:20] <apachelogger> otherwise it would have blocked eeeeeeeeeeeverything kde
[13:39] <davmor2> Riddell: Sue has present looked at it  mocked you mercilessly and then said I suppose he wants me to knit it for him :)
[13:41] <Riddell> :)
[13:41] <Riddell> actually I already got a compiled version of that source which I gave to my girlfriend
[13:42] <Riddell> but there's any number of other KDE fans out there who would appreciate it I'm sure
[13:42] <Riddell> or we could auction it, it would go for a fortune!
[13:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you upload your calligra stuff yet?
[13:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes 2.7.91 is in
[13:45] <Riddell> but not compiled on arm64 and ppc64el
[13:45] <Riddell> there is a new alpha needing packaged
[13:46] <Riddell> I spose I could look at packaging it in such a way that those obscure arches will compile
[13:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: either that or we blacklist
[13:58] <shadeslayer> well there goes all my dev time
[14:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: where?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> playing games on steam
[14:00] <apachelogger> huh?
[14:01] <Riddell> aah
[14:01] <Riddell> free games
[14:01] <apachelogger> huh?
[14:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: see e-mail
[14:01] <Riddell> e-mail to ubuntu-devel-announce
[14:01] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[14:02] <apachelogger> not sure how that relates to dev time :P
[14:02] <shadeslayer> I'll be playing games instead of working
[14:04] <Riddell> I just have no desire to play computer games, but I might look at this steam thing since it is getting such a lot of publicity
[14:08] <mikhas> Riddell, just get it to show your support for the idea
[14:08] <mikhas> there are 1,200 keys to hand out, not even half of them have been claimed yet …
[14:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah, I don't think so
[14:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uhm, it's ... part of QA ;P
[14:10] <apachelogger> no it's not
[14:10] <shadeslayer> to make sure you can run steam on Kubuntu fine
[14:10] <apachelogger> you annot install steam on Kubuntu
[14:10] <apachelogger> *cannot
[14:10] <shadeslayer> sure you can
[14:10] <apachelogger> no you can't
[14:10] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[14:10] <apachelogger> open discover, search for steam, make screenshot
[14:10] <shadeslayer> I have it installed and running just fine
[14:10] <apachelogger> seems your QA methodology is crap then? :P
[14:11] <shadeslayer> >.>
[14:11] <apachelogger>  kdeedu : Depends: kstars (>= 4:4.11) but it is not installable
[14:11] <apachelogger> kstars failing on arm64?
[14:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: are you ontop of that?
[14:12] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:12] <shadeslayer> I'm busy twiddling your bash script
[14:12] <apachelogger> I thought you were tracking .2?
[14:12] <shadeslayer> or well, trying to understand it completely fully
[14:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: chdist is very lovely I have to say
[14:13] <apachelogger> so, who's fixing .2?
[14:13] <apachelogger>  Missing build dependencies: libindi-dev
[14:13] <apachelogger> bummer
[14:13] <apachelogger> most days I feel like a private detective
[14:13] <Riddell> apachelogger: I can't work out how to set it up for arm64
[14:14] <apachelogger> run a command so it tells you edit sources.list
[14:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: and on the indi build log it can't find sys/io.h
[14:14] <shadeslayer> which looks arch specific
[14:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: in there you throw
[14:14] <apachelogger> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse
[14:14] <apachelogger> deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ trusty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[14:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: then you edit the apt.conf in the same dir and change the Architecture to arm64
[14:15] <apachelogger> (or well, respectively different source lines and architectures for a different chdist)
[14:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: more interesting is why indi is only built on ppc and arm64
[14:15] <apachelogger> ah
[14:15] <shadeslayer> ^^
[14:15] <apachelogger> it simply didn't need building since raring
[14:15] <apachelogger> zafuq
[14:15] <shadeslayer> good that I didn't have to type it out
[14:16] <apachelogger>  #592893 package libindi0 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/indiserver', which is also in package indi 5:0.5-0ubuntu7
[14:16] <apachelogger> ubottu: hello, bug, hellooooo
[14:16] <apachelogger> too stupid to link a bug obviously
[14:17] <jussi> apachelogger: bug 592893
[14:17] <apachelogger> this is epic
[14:17] <apachelogger> there is indi (v0.5) and there's libinidi (v0.9)
[14:17] <apachelogger> and I am not sure that they are actually different things
[14:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you remember that stuff, because I sure don't
[14:17] <jussi> !info indi
[14:18] <jussi> !info inidi
[14:18] <apachelogger> jussi: I meant source packagewise
[14:18] <jussi> oh
[14:18] <jussi> fail... :D
[14:18] <Riddell> apachelogger: what am I doing wrong here? it's wanting to load i386 http://paste.kde.org/pikyskfun
[14:19] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, ignore
[14:19] <apachelogger> does the same here, no clue why
[14:19] <apachelogger> Get:3 http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/main arm64 Packages [1,220 kB]
[14:19] <apachelogger> it actually got the arm64 sources
[14:19] <apachelogger> but then it tries to fetch i386 for some reason
[14:20] <apachelogger> oh, actually, perhaps because of arch-all packages?
[14:20] <apachelogger> although then I would see more uninstallable stuff in my install kdeedu I suppose
[14:20] <shadeslayer> try doing dpkg --remove-architecture i386
[14:20] <apachelogger> hm
[14:21] <apachelogger> kstars
[14:21] <apachelogger> Latest upload:
[14:21] <apachelogger>     4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1
[14:21] <apachelogger> launchpad is really weird some days
[14:22] <Riddell> indi changelog says "remove indi package now built from libindi, this package only needed for libsbigudrv"
[14:22] <apachelogger> hm
[14:22] <apachelogger> this is very confusing
[14:23] <shadeslayer> make libindi build on arm64?
[14:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: equally confusing is that it doesn't build becuse sys/io.h sounds like it's from libc and it'd be curious if arm64's libc was missing that
[14:23] <apachelogger> (it also doesn't build on ppc fwiw)
[14:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: apt-file can't find a sys/io.h for arm fwiw
[14:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: need more explanation on the kde i10n task
[14:24] <shadeslayer> I still don't understand the issue
[14:24] <apachelogger> such as?
[14:24] <shadeslayer> okay, I'll explain what I've understood so far?
[14:24] <apachelogger> go ahead
[14:24] <apachelogger> I fear you may want to move on to another card though
[14:25]  * apachelogger points out that kstars' git repo is like 3000000 superbytes big
[14:26]  * apachelogger also points out that he dropped some painkillers for the headache and might fall off the chair any minute ^^
[14:26] <shadeslayer> build-l10n.sh grabs kde translation sources, then stuffs language-pack-kde-common into the source ( this contains the common packaging ) , then does lang pack code mapping and then runs dpkg-buildpackage?
[14:26] <apachelogger> nope
[14:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what's wrong in there?
[14:26] <apachelogger> and that's what's wrong with it :P
[14:26] <apachelogger> kde-l10n-common has nothing to do with language-pack-kde-common
[14:27] <apachelogger> there is no logical logical tie between the two
[14:27] <apachelogger> there is however an architectural as the script that will expand kde-l10n-common into kde-l10n-$foo ALSO expands language-pack-kde-common into language-pack-kde-$foo
[14:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: seems indi is an optional dep on kstars, so we could just not buildep on it
[14:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: to be honest though, it might be simpler to simply fiddle with the meta package
[14:29] <apachelogger> seeing as kdenetwork probably has a similar issue and arm64 isn't really interesting to us anyway
[14:30] <Riddell> I wouldn't be against that
[14:30] <Riddell> although arm64 phonon build just started :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/4:4.7.1-0ubuntu3/+build/5552771
[14:31] <apachelogger> well, we need that for phonon's promotion anyway
[14:31] <apachelogger> right now there's no phonon 4.7.1 :s
[14:31] <Riddell> hopefully this'll fix that
[14:32] <apachelogger> kdenetwork : Depends: kopete (>= 4:4.11) but it is not installable
[14:32] <apachelogger>               Recommends: kdenetwork-filesharing (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
[14:32] <apachelogger>               Recommends: kde-zeroconf (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed
[14:32] <apachelogger>               Recommends: kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installe
[14:33] <apachelogger> I think kdenetwork will be nigh empty
[14:33] <Riddell> it's a meta package no?
[14:33] <Riddell> I mean it's just made from meta-kde
[14:34] <Riddell> ah yes it's just a problem with kopete
[14:35] <apachelogger> ../../../../../protocols/jabber/googletalk/libjingle/talk/base/systeminfo.cc:105:2: error: #error "Unknown architecture."
[14:35] <apachelogger> ^^
[14:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, I'll blacklist those things as well but add a card to report the build failures upstream
[14:35] <apachelogger> supposedly most of them are straight forward
[14:35] <Riddell> since googletalk doesn't exist any more anyway I think we can remove that from kopete
[14:35] <apachelogger> like that googletalk error
[14:36] <apachelogger> Riddell: best talk with upstream or we get angry upstream mail again ^^
[14:36] <Riddell> there is a kopete upstream?
[14:37] <Riddell> well yes, that guy who asked us to add new dependencies a while ago
[14:39] <shadeslayer> https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00376.html
[14:40] <Riddell> kopete already has ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU),powerpc) $(overridden_command) -- -DWITH_GOOGLETALK=false
[14:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think he does active commits upstream as well
[14:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: debian seem to be self destructing slightly
[14:41] <shadeslayer> imploding
[14:42] <Riddell> but I'm pretty sure at the end of it they'll go for systemd
[14:42] <Riddell> meh
[14:42] <apachelogger> hm
[14:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: seems only kopete is blocking after all
[14:42] <apachelogger> not sure why apt talks about the recommends, they are perfectly installable
[14:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: ok I'll fix kopete
[14:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: nah
[14:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: just report upstream :P
[14:45] <apachelogger> or send him a mail
[14:45] <apachelogger> not really worth the time IMO
[14:45] <apachelogger> anyway
[14:46] <apachelogger> meta-kde with blacklisting going up in a second or two
[14:46] <apachelogger> going to modify the seed for calligra
[14:47]  * Riddell cheers as phonon builds on arm64
[14:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ahhhh now I get it
[14:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lines 217 to 227 need to be split out into their own script
[14:49] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[14:49] <shadeslayer> so that one can build kde-l10n-foo and language-pack-kde-foo separately
[14:49] <apachelogger> that ought to be the end result, yeah
[14:49] <shadeslayer> got it
[14:49] <apachelogger> how one gets there I do not know
[14:49] <shadeslayer> seems simple
[14:54] <agateau> apachelogger: I is messing wit partman http://agateau.com/tmp/partman.png
[14:57]  * agateau wonders if that screenshot is actually readable
[14:58] <Riddell> agateau: there's a lot in it, take us through it
[14:58] <agateau> Riddell: The meat is the top-left corner, this is a test app for the partition widget
[14:59] <apachelogger> agateau: oh, you found a  use for kmag ^^
[14:59] <agateau> Riddell: the two versions on the right are the same window, viewed through kmag, which has options to simulate some eye issues
[14:59] <apachelogger> agateau: run it by ovidiu-florin I guess
[14:59] <apachelogger> looks good though I guess
[15:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: updating kubuntu-meta
[15:01] <apachelogger> perhaps we'll finally get our ISOs below the size limit ^^
[15:01] <Riddell> agateau: ooh accessibility!
[15:02] <agateau> Riddell: who would have thought about that!?
[15:03] <apachelogger> hah
[15:03] <apachelogger> now kubuntu-docs ftbfs
[15:03] <apachelogger> ah, bogus upload
[15:08] <shadeslayer> whut
[15:08] <shadeslayer> -- checking for module 'freetype2'
[15:08] <shadeslayer> --   found freetype2, version 14.0.8
[15:08] <shadeslayer> -- Could NOT find Freetype (missing:  FREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIRS) (found version "14.0.8")
[15:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pl8smjt4p
[15:19] <shadeslayer> initial port
[15:26] <yofel> did they break the freetype check... again?
[15:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I see lots of dead peoeple
[15:28] <apachelogger> eh
[15:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I see lots of duplicated code
[15:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah
[15:28] <apachelogger> not much of a port then is it, more like a copy :P
[15:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Know a way to move the mapping functions into something like common.sh?
[15:29] <apachelogger> yofel: trusty is supposed to break I was told ^^
[15:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: that's from precise
[15:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ctrl-x alt-tab ctrl-v
[15:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: right, but will it work?
[15:29] <apachelogger> why would it not work Oo
[15:30] <yofel> and that's kde-workspace?
[15:30] <yofel> the freetype check did change in cmake in trusty, but I don't think the kde side changed anything..
[15:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because it didn't when I tried it
[15:31] <shadeslayer> ah I know
[15:31] <shadeslayer> why it didn't work
[15:32] <apachelogger> :O
[15:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do I leave the calligra part of the code in build-l10n.sh or in build-langpack?
[15:33] <shadeslayer> which is the new script
[15:34] <apachelogger> what's the calligra part?
[15:34] <shadeslayer>     CALLIGRA=`apt-cache policy calligra-l10n-${kdecode}`
[15:34] <shadeslayer> looks like something that would go in the langpack
[15:35] <apachelogger> Riddell, jussi, yofel, shadeslayer, ScottK, valorie: I am done rewriting most of our currenct policies review would be much appreciated before I put it up for discussio and approval on the list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Policies
[15:35] <sgclark> Riddell: dpic needed for cirkuit ready for your review in my ubuntu one
[15:35] <apachelogger> key policies are bug triage, patching, stable updates
[15:35] <yofel> sweet
[15:35] <apachelogger> policies marked with ((NEW)) are either completely new or were almost entirely rewritten
[15:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what's that good for?
[15:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: and why is it apt-caching?
[15:36] <apachelogger> that seems like cheatingt
[15:36] <apachelogger> and since today we learned about chdist... if anything this shoudl chdist apt-cache ^^
[15:37] <Riddell> sgclark: ooh
[15:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common/view/head:/debian/build-l10n.sh#L229
[15:37] <apachelogger> that seems silly
[15:38] <yofel> wow, chdist looks awesome :O
[15:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: those shoudl be Recommends, and the apt-cache check is useless
[15:38] <shadeslayer> separate task
[15:39] <apachelogger> why do you ask me what to do with it then?
[15:39] <apachelogger> it's part of the pack logic, obviously :P
[15:39] <apachelogger> (actually I am not sure anything should dep on calligra-l10n)
[15:40] <apachelogger> calligra l10n should be installed through our language-support magic
[15:40] <apachelogger> just like no pack depends libreoffice l10n etc.
[15:40] <Riddell> dpic-2014.Jan.01.tar.gz  that is not a very clever version name :(
[15:41] <apachelogger> oh gawd
[15:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: dpkg-gencontrol: error: the Depends field contains an arch-specific dependency but the package is architecture all
[15:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: can't really twiddle with the metapackages
[15:41] <apachelogger> or we make the meta packges arch:any
[15:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: new magic pushed
[15:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: any objections to the latter, otherwise I'll go ahead with that for now?
[15:45] <apachelogger> alas, I need to leave in a bit, so perhaps you shoudl do that ^^
[15:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I see lots of duplicated code.
[15:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: making it arch:any?  that seems the right thing to do if it's different on different arches
[15:48] <Riddell> but you can change which arches a package is pulled in on in the seed
[15:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah but then I either have to replicate the meta package (manually list all packages) or blacklist the entire metapackage, neither is apprpriate on the seed level
[15:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: going to arch:any the two
[15:52] <apachelogger> both metas uploaded and I am out for today
[15:52] <Riddell> sgclark: here's my comments http://paste.kde.org/pcpgc79ov
[15:52] <Riddell> sometimes the small packages are the messyest
[15:54]  * Riddell cheers as phonon and phono-backend-* moves to -release
[15:59] <sgclark> Riddell: not sure what you mean on #3. I don't have an ubuntu email
[15:59] <Riddell> sgclark: we don't use the Maintainer field in ubuntu because we maintain everything communally
[15:59] <Riddell> so we just set it to something generic like Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:59] <Riddell> and then if you want to keep some credit you can use  XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Scarlett Clark<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:00] <sgclark> oh I understand ty
[16:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: should be fixed now
[16:01] <sgclark> Riddell: I need clarity on #9, what do you mean rebuild tar?
[16:01] <Riddell> sgclark: extract tar, remove evil non-free .pdf files, make a new tar without them
[16:02] <sgclark> oh ok
[16:02] <Riddell> we can't ship PDF files unless they have some modifiable version of it alongside
[16:02] <Riddell> this is one of the corner cases of Free Software that people don't often think about
[16:04] <Riddell> so you should end up with dpic_2014.01.01+dfsg1.orig.tar.gz
[16:04] <Riddell> hi ari-tczew, did you get let back in?
[16:06] <ari-tczew> Riddell: hi, yes, I'm back :)
[16:06] <Riddell> yay!
[16:07] <Riddell> ari-tczew: lots of useful things to be done on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ should you be in a kde mood :)
[16:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I need a big task
[16:11] <ari-tczew> Riddell: will keep in mind :P
[16:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: package Kf5 alpha 1!
[16:12] <shadeslayer> oh hmm, possiblyapa apachelogger left
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mmmm .. don't feel like packaging stuff
[16:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it's mostly needs the kubuntu-automation scripts adapted for kf5
[16:16] <ghostcube> wenn jemand brassbanda mag
[16:16] <ghostcube> heuite um 23.25 auf zdf kultur
[16:19]  * Riddell removes kgraphviewer
[16:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh you can test agateau's patch to ubiquity
[16:19] <Riddell> https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/kde-no-fullscreen/+merge/203105
[16:19] <Riddell> might need a kubuntu image rebuilt to test properly
[16:20] <Riddell> including with oem install, install only and live desktop install
[16:20] <agateau> Riddell: just filed a mr for the partition btw
[16:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: there's another task :)
[16:20] <agateau> :D
[16:21]  * Riddell cheers as kopete compiles on all platforms
[16:24] <Riddell> agateau: hmm, looks like I need to remove massif-visualizer as well (since it builds on kgraphviewer and kgraphviewer doesn't build with current graphviz)
[16:25] <agateau> Riddell: it's not like I am really maintaining it :/
[16:25] <agateau> Someone has volunteered to take over the package on the Debian side
[16:26] <Riddell> well good luck to them since I guess they'll need to get kgraphviewer compiling again
[16:36] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun_: what are those repack tarballs that I see
[16:36] <yofel> shadeslayer: tomahawk repacked without windows stuff IIRC
[16:36] <shadeslayer> sorry, I meant repack scripts
[16:37] <shadeslayer> there's debian/repack.stub
[16:37] <yofel> that's from harald
[16:37] <yofel> IIRC there's some debian document that says how those work
[16:37] <yofel> something for uupdate I think
[16:38] <shadeslayer> http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/repacking.html
[16:38] <shadeslayer> I see
[16:40] <shadeslayer> thats neat
[16:43] <yofel> AFAIR the package was pretty much done, I think there was something in lintian though and we tried to update the copyright file
[16:43] <yofel> which is pretty messy for tomahawk
[16:45] <shadeslayer> hah
[16:45] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: freetype detection broken in kde-workspace
[16:46] <shadeslayer> probably because of 748f96a58ac6a740c65e61189a4e0a427764e1e6
[16:49] <Riddell> freetype detection...
[16:49] <Riddell> there's a patch for that in cmake
[16:50] <yofel> the detection itself seems to work, it's the feature summary that checks for the wrong value it seems
[16:50] <Riddell> ubuntu has a different patch in cmake than debian does
[16:50] <Riddell> maybe ubuntu has it wrong?
[16:50] <yofel> I did what looked sane, dunno what debian did
[16:52] <yofel> well, they simply fixed the path, I fixed the path + added some changes so it doesn't break again
[16:52] <yofel> or on backports
[16:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: try with http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/FindFreetype.cmake (debian version)
[16:52] <Riddell> in /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindFreetype.cmake
[16:53] <Riddell> bug 1256710
[16:54]  * Riddell cheers as okular builds on ppc64el
[16:55] <yofel> hm, debian's FindFreetype.cmake should break kde-workspace actually
[16:55] <yofel> they seem to have the freetype headers in a different location than we do
[16:56] <yofel> " The FindFreetype.cmake module needs a new volunteer maintainer and a major overhaul "
[16:56] <yofel> yay for unmaintained cmake modules
[17:02]  * Riddell cheers as kopete migrates to -release
[17:04]  * Riddell uploads cmake_<IP_ADDRESS> with yofel's existing freetype patch
[17:04] <sgclark> Riddell: dpic ready
[17:07] <Riddell> sgclark: you left some .o files in that new .orig.tar  run make clean before rebuilding the tar
[17:07] <sgclark> ok
[17:08] <Riddell> sgclark: probably comment on debian/changelog that you removed the pdf files
[17:09] <Riddell> or in debian/README.source
[17:09] <sgclark> ok
[17:09] <Riddell> sgclark: same for the changed versioning
[17:11] <Riddell> sgclark: otherwise looks good
[17:11]  * Riddell wanders home
[17:14] <sgclark> Riddell: done
[17:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: so how far along did you get wrt updating the license
[17:16] <yofel> hm...
[17:17] <yofel> I'm pretty sure the GPL part is correct, and we did partly update the LGPL and BSD stuff, but I think there's some new things missing there
[17:17] <yofel> needs validation in any case
[17:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: fwiw ximion told me about a magic patch for licensecheck that outputs the licenses in dep 5
[17:20] <shadeslayer> and there's a ./thirdparty/breakpad/common/convert_UTF.c
[17:21] <yofel> seriously? :O
[17:21] <shadeslayer> erm, I mean /usr/lib/cdbs/licensecheck2dep5
[17:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah, pinged him for the patch
[17:30] <shadeslayer> yofel: I'm thinking of sneaking it in
[17:30] <shadeslayer> so many steam games \o/
[17:30] <yofel> if you think so go ahead - as I said the package was mostly done
[17:33]  * jussi throws tomatos at shadeslayer
[17:33]  * shadeslayer holds up a freescale board
[17:34] <jussi> are freescale boards that worthless?
[17:34] <jussi> :P
[17:34] <shadeslayer> they're so awesome that they protect you from tomatos
[17:35]  * jussi prods at shadeslayer
[17:36] <jussi> shadeslayer: pm.............
[18:18] <ScottK> apachelogger: For bug 1277312, shouldn't it be << 4.12?
[18:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: wtf
[18:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindFreetype.cmake hasn't changed between trusty and precise
[18:20] <shadeslayer> yet precise doesn't build, while trusty does
[18:25] <ximion> shadeslayer: sorry, I was away - you can use the licensecheck2dep5 wrapper, which is much more clean
[18:25] <shadeslayer> aw
[18:25] <ximion> before, I used http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=472199#22
[18:25] <ximion> that report is full of patches for the issue ^^
[18:26] <ximion> use
[18:26] <ximion> licensecheck --copyright -r . | /usr/lib/cdbs/licensecheck2dep5 > debian/copyright
[18:26] <ximion> and fix the copyright file afterwards
[18:29] <lordievader> Good evening.
[18:31] <yofel> shadeslayer: with the changes to freetype that's kinda impossible - do you have a cmake backport for precise?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: that's what I'm doing
[18:32] <shadeslayer> building cmake in pbuilder, try with that
[18:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: emacsen-common will need to be backported too :(
[18:34] <yofel> why o.O?
[18:34] <shadeslayer>  cmake-data conflicts with emacsen-common (<< 2.0.0)
[18:34] <yofel> -.-
[18:34] <ximion> shadeslayer: btw, looks like you missed an awesome karate show at my fosdem talk :D
[18:34] <shadeslayer> oh? :D
[18:35] <shadeslayer> is it on video?
[18:35] <ximion> I didn't know that I move that much if I can't walk a little ^^
[18:35] <ximion> yup
[18:35] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:35] <shadeslayer> yofel: I'll cheat
[18:36] <yofel> ^^
[18:39] <shadeslayer> hm nope
[18:39] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/pzipenewn
[18:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: well, backporting emacsen-common was easy
[18:47] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah works with new freetype
[18:47] <shadeslayer> erm
[18:47] <shadeslayer> new cmake
[18:47] <shadeslayer> madness
[18:47] <shadeslayer> I'll backport it
[18:51] <shadeslayer> oh fooey
[18:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: we also need to backport debhelper
[18:52] <yofel> I fear I'll leave you alone with that quest
[18:52]  * yofel makes his way home
[18:55] <shadeslayer> well, it built fine
[18:55] <jussi> aww, they are booting me!!!
[18:55] <jussi> killing my server...
[18:55] <shadeslayer> jussi: ?
[18:56] <jussi> Poor wolfe...
[18:56] <jussi> [20:54:42] <Kubuntu IRC:tomaw:tomaw> [Server Notice] This server will be retired shortly. Please reconnect to chat.freenode.net
[18:56] <shadeslayer> aw
[19:15] <ScottK> apachelogger: Nevermind.  Figured it out.
[20:00] <ahoneybun_> shadeslayer: tarballs?
[22:05] <ahoneybun> valorie: added a screenshot on http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Software/Games/Steam the one that on the kubuntu wiki used Muon SC.
[22:13] <ahoneybun> I have the backports ppa installed byt 32 packages are being held back
[22:14] <yofel> which release?
[22:15] <ahoneybun> 13.10
[22:15] <yofel> let me check
[22:17] <yofel> ahoneybun: hm, I see nothing obviously wrong, mind pastebinning the apt-get output?
[22:17] <ahoneybun> does the root file system ever go over 25gbs?
[22:17] <ahoneybun> sure
[22:18] <yofel> depends on what you have there... I've managed to fill up to 40G in there, but that's with lots of debug packages, logs, caches, database files, ...
[22:19] <ahoneybun> because I have kubuntu installed in a 25gb ssd
[22:19] <ahoneybun> yofel: http://pastebin.com/rASk2s64
[22:19] <yofel> wouldn't be enough for me, but it does work. I wouldn't make a seperate partition for / though
[22:20] <yofel> I do have kubuntu running comfortably on a 60G SSD
[22:20] <ahoneybun> well I wanted to see the speed boost
[22:20] <yofel> ah, if that's notebook it should be noticible ^^
[22:20] <ahoneybun> yea
[22:20] <ahoneybun> ubuntu boots in 13 secs
[22:21] <ahoneybun> have not timed kubuntu
[22:21] <ahoneybun> I removed windows completey
[22:22] <ahoneybun> and have no way of getting it back unless I get a copy
[22:22] <ahoneybun> as this notebook does not have the product key on the case
[22:22] <yofel> if you want hard boot measurements you could try bootchart, but that's more for debugging hangs during boot
[22:22] <ahoneybun> I timed it with my phone lol
[22:22] <yofel> it doesn't o.O?
[22:22] <ahoneybun> not on the outside at all
[22:23] <yofel> it's not under the battery?
[22:23] <ahoneybun> um
[22:24] <yofel> that's where they usually put it lately - unless it's an ultrabook, then I'm clueless
[22:24] <ahoneybun> has some letters and numbers on a bar code
[22:24] <ahoneybun> but not sure as I'm used to it being on a sticker that says "Product Key:
[22:24] <yofel> yeah, that's what it should be
[22:25] <yofel> (the colorful sticker I mean)
[22:25] <ahoneybun> yea but nothing there
[22:25] <ahoneybun> some people are saying it is in the bios
[22:25] <ahoneybun> but this has efi
[22:27] <ahoneybun> brb
[22:34] <ahoneybun> yofel: only thing in the bios is something about windows license
[22:34] <ahoneybun> win8 std mlt
[22:37] <yofel> no idea, I have 0 experience with EFI
[22:38] <ahoneybun> all the programs that extract the key run in windows
[22:38] <ahoneybun> so
[22:38] <ahoneybun> I have to (1) "download" a copy from the web
[22:38] <ahoneybun> (2) buy a legal dvd
[22:39] <yofel> well, you can download an image from microsoft directly, not sure how that'll run though without key - again no experience with win8
[22:40] <ahoneybun> yea
[22:41] <ahoneybun> 119.99
[22:41] <ahoneybun> at microsoft store
[22:41] <yofel> no, you can download the install images for free - as long as you later have a valid key
[22:42]  * ahoneybun wonders what is different in the OEM version that makes it 99.99
[22:44] <apachelogger> :@
[22:44] <apachelogger> kubuntu-full still doesn't migrate
[22:44] <apachelogger> argh
[22:45] <yofel> what did you do to it o.O?
[22:45] <apachelogger> I didn't do anything britney and arm64 screw with it
[22:45] <apachelogger> well wtf
[22:45] <apachelogger> if I try to install it manually all deps are met
[22:45] <ahoneybun> seems firefox 27 got pushed
[22:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, there still is no blog post
[22:47] <yofel> britney output is so hard to understand :S
[22:48] <apachelogger> kdeedu/ppc64el unsatisfiable Depends: kalzium (>= 4:4.11)
[22:48] <apachelogger> kdeedu/ppc64el unsatisfiable Depends: step (>= 4:4.11)
[22:48] <apachelogger> bummer
[22:48] <apachelogger> silly architectures: the gift that keeps on giving
[22:49] <yofel> how did you find that o.O?
[22:49] <yofel> kalzium at least should be an easy fix
[22:51] <apachelogger> yofel: completely pointless effort
[22:52]  * ahoneybun starts LONG download of 4gbs
[22:52] <yofel> force it in instead?
[22:52] <ahoneybun> ?
[22:52] <ahoneybun> oh
[22:52] <yofel> ahoneybun: why are you trying to reinstall windows? ^^
[22:53] <ahoneybun> maybe games
[22:53] <ahoneybun> idk
[22:53] <yofel> ah, that's valid I guess
[22:53] <apachelogger> I like how shadeslayer makes time to fix build failures on architectures we do not care about but not blog posts about things we do care about
[22:53]  * apachelogger cheers
[22:53] <apachelogger> yofel: going to twiddle kdeedu meta  a bit more
[22:54] <ahoneybun> kinda feel crappy for writting over window
[22:54] <ahoneybun> s
[22:55] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: let me fix that for you
[22:56] <ahoneybun> ?
[22:56] <shadeslayer> erm
[22:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[22:56] <apachelogger> not fun mate, not fun
[22:56] <shadeslayer> laundry > blogging
[22:57] <apachelogger> yofel: did you look at step?
[22:57] <apachelogger> before I go digging there
[22:57] <yofel> nope
[22:57] <apachelogger> oh
[22:58] <apachelogger> also because of eigen2
[22:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fixed
[22:59] <shadeslayer> now to wait for world domination
[23:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'll write the kde-touchpad post tomorrow
[23:00] <apachelogger>   Uploading meta-kde_78ubuntu11_source.changes: done.
[23:00] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages.
[23:00] <apachelogger> hopefully that unblocks all metas now -.-
[23:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whom do I poke about https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1278142
[23:01] <ahoneybun> apachelogger: where did you upload the kubuntu-docs package?
[23:01] <apachelogger> trusty
[23:02] <ahoneybun> like a site/location
[23:02] <apachelogger> trusty?
[23:02] <apachelogger> packages.ubuntu.com probably will show it
[23:02] <apachelogger> alas, might not yet have updated
[23:02] <apachelogger> " Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. "
[23:02]  * ahoneybun sees some fine work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/HowTo "from a Doc Person state of mind"
[23:03] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: btw tomahawk also uploaded earlier
[23:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dpm, just like about aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllll the other bugs
[23:03] <shadeslayer> not sure if I mentioned that
[23:03] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: awesome how bad did I do on the licenses and such?
[23:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: th one person that's rarely available?
[23:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that one
[23:03] <apachelogger> apparently localization is now in "maintenance mode"
[23:04] <shadeslayer> ;)
[23:04] <yofel> ahoneybun: after pastebin finally loaded the page, dist-upgrade will probably fix that
[23:04] <shadeslayer> yay, tomahawk was rejected actually
[23:04] <yofel> oh?
[23:04] <shadeslayer> no upload rights
[23:04] <yofel> ah right, it's not in the packageset
[23:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: plz be uploading tomahawk from ppa:rohangarg/experimental
[23:05] <shadeslayer> should be landing ~soonish
[23:05] <ahoneybun> yofel: upgrading now
[23:05] <ahoneybun> 4.12.1
[23:05] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: not too bad regarding licenses
[23:05] <ahoneybun> yay!
[23:06] <shadeslayer> I added some that had public domain and one with a curl license
[23:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can I get a debdiff plz
[23:06] <ahoneybun> thanks yofel on tomahawk
[23:06] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: I only spotted those because of scripts btw :P
[23:07] <ahoneybun> scripts?
[23:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/165582281/tomahawk_0.6.0%2Bdfsg1-0ubuntu3_0.7.0%2Bdfsg1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[23:07] <ahoneybun> licensecheck?
[23:07] <yofel> shadeslayer dug out some more scripts
[23:07] <shadeslayer> ^^
[23:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw indenting on some licenses was bad
[23:08] <shadeslayer> extra spaces on some lines
[23:08] <yofel> we were using nano...
[23:08] <shadeslayer> heh :)
[23:08] <ahoneybun> apachelogger: does it make sense to include a txt file with the team members in the kubuntu-docs package?
[23:08] <apachelogger> hm
[23:08]  * ahoneybun only knows nano. ;(
[23:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, ahoneybun, yofel: complete copy of LGPL missing
[23:09] <yofel> eh
[23:09] <apachelogger> don't see one anyway
[23:09] <yofel> ah right, license.txt is gpl3
[23:10] <shadeslayer> yep ^^
[23:10] <apachelogger> I thought I told muesli to fix that
[23:10] <apachelogger> :@
[23:10]  * ahoneybun plays Bioshock Infinite
[23:10] <shadeslayer> clearly he ignored you
[23:11]  * shadeslayer has Bioshock infinite lying around somewhere too
[23:11] <shadeslayer> no time to play :(
[23:11] <apachelogger> well
[23:11] <apachelogger> someone needs to repack the tar again
[23:16] <shadeslayer> tomorrow morning
[23:16] <shadeslayer> off to bed I am, night
[23:16] <yofel> nini