[12:05] <bobesponja> Flosoft:  I'm writing an app that download the ubuntu iso with bittorrent and burn them automatically on windows with cdrecord.exe using a Qt4 gui, that's why I'm asking :)
[12:05] <bobesponja> Flosoft: it looks like this http://p80.free.fr/getmydistro.png
[12:06] <Flosoft> nice
[12:06] <Flosoft> can I PM you ?
[12:06] <bobesponja> sure
[02:14] <kwwii> re
[02:15] <kwwii> Riddell: alles klar mit das Bild?
[02:15] <kwwii> erm...
[02:15] <kwwii> sorry
[02:15] <nixternal> hehe
[02:15] <kwwii> Riddell: did the pic work ok?
[02:44] <bobesponja> kwwii: I think Riddell is sleeping :)
[02:44] <kwwii> bobesponja: yeah, he is always doing the smart thing
[02:44] <kwwii> I think I will follow his example
[02:45] <kwwii> and then onward to D-land
[02:45] <kwwii> night all
[03:11] <jeroenvrp> are the torrents on e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ the same torrents that will be used tomorrow!?
[03:14] <bobesponja> jeroenvrp: no
[03:14] <jeroenvrp> bobesponja: ok, I thought let's put the torrents allready on my pc
[03:15] <bobesponja> but they shouldn't be that different
[03:16] <bobesponja> tomorrow's will be like this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> bobesponja: thats not the problem, I allready have dapper
[03:16] <bobesponja> but they are not online yet
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> it's for other users
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> to help it seed
[03:16] <bobesponja> I see
[03:17] <bobesponja> do you have a nice server connection?
[03:17] <jeroenvrp> bobesponja: normal adsl
[03:18] <bobesponja> jeroenvrp: goe gaat :)
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> wa
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> oo
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> haha
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> hoe gaat het
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> or "gaat het goed? "
[03:19] <bobesponja> hmm not that far
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> yeah you were nearby
[03:19] <bobesponja> and hoe gaat met yow? or something
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> hoe gaat het met jou
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> or beter: hoe gaat het met je
[03:20] <bobesponja> hoe gaat he met je
[03:20] <bobesponja> k got it
[03:20] <jeroenvrp> or extra polite: hoe gaat met met u?
[03:20] <bobesponja> isn't there something like Sup? or what's up?
[03:20] <bobesponja> ie shorter
[03:20] <jeroenvrp> yeah
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> hoe is 't
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> or "hoe's't"
[03:21] <bobesponja> lol
[03:21] <bobesponja> cool
[03:21] <bobesponja> and how do you pronoounce that in English?
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> or"alles goed?
[03:21] <bobesponja> oh ja
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> what you mean
[03:22] <bobesponja> hoe's't
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> ah
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> huust
[03:22] <bobesponja> k
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> no
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> whost
[03:22] <jeroenvrp> who'st
[03:22] <bobesponja> ok
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> it means: who are you
[03:23] <bobesponja> thanx for the lesson
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> now
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> how are you
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> have to go
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> going to bed
[03:23] <bobesponja> see ya
[03:23] <jeroenvrp> cheers
[04:05] <bddebian> Hello
[04:09] <bddebian> Heya imbrandon
[04:10] <imbrandon> heya bddebian
[04:10] <imbrandon> T - "hours" ;)
[04:11] <bddebian> ?
[04:11] <bddebian> Oh hehe :-)
[04:39] <imbrandon> who has ops in #ubuntu+1 , looks like ones is needed ( brainf*ck speech and such )
[05:16] <dickhall> is this the appropriate forum for talking about things like Katapult dev?
[05:16] <robotgeek> dickhall: you can talk to Mez, but he aint here
[05:17] <dickhall> okay
[05:17] <dickhall> Mez = martin?
[05:20] <dickhall> I started dabbling with it today, my first Qt/KDE project and my first C++ in a while. Trying to get it to act more like Quicksilver on the mac by having it keep a running list of best matches (in order) you can scroll through by hitting down
[05:22] <dickhall> got a good part of the way through it, but it keeps segfaulting now and I can't figure out why. 'tis probably just some API I'm messing up, more Qt/KDE specific than katapult
[05:22] <dickhall> but it'd be good to talk to someone involved with the project just to sanity check. what time zone is Mez in?
[05:23] <robotgeek> dickhall: not sure, sorry. i think there are forums now?
[05:24] <dickhall> there's a wiki, lemme check there
[05:24] <dickhall> do you know what times you usally see mez?
[05:25] <robotgeek> dickhall: nope, i've been erratic of late
[05:25] <dickhall> no prob, thanks anyway
[05:27] <robotgeek> http://forums.thekatapult.org.uk/ dickhall
[06:06] <robotgeek> hi Mez , dickhall was looking for you
[06:07] <Mez> know y?
[06:07] <robotgeek> Mez: katapult foo/
[06:07] <Mez> ah - tell him http://forums.thekatapult.org.uk next time
[06:08] <robotgeek> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/750572
[06:08] <robotgeek> he's here, we should ping dickhall again :)
[07:10] <dickhall> hey
[08:46] <kwwii> Riddell: ping?
[08:49] <kwwii> I hope that the release announcement pic worked out well
[08:50] <kwwii> be back tomorrow
[08:50] <kwwii> or late tonight
[09:25] <\sh_away> where is 6.06 ?
[09:26] <OdyX> !seen 6.06
[09:27] <imbrandon> \sh, not quite there yet
[09:27] <seaLne> probably what you have :)
[09:30] <Lure> \sh: [09:15]  <Kamion> Burgundavia: at minimum we're waiting on me having breakfast and getting into the office.
[09:30] <Lure> ;-)
[09:36] <seaLne> hehe
[09:37] <\sh> now I need an excuse for my buddies here...they want to download
[09:38] <Lure> \sh: they can download from cdimage.u.c
[09:38] <Lure> (latest daily)
[09:40] <\sh> Lure: we were communicating the official release channels...well, anyways...waiting for official releases and start my mirror
[10:08] <verwilst> so it's any hour now? ;)
[10:08] <imbrandon> yup
[10:08] <verwilst> jaj! :)
[10:12] <OdyX> it'll be last hour in last timezone...
[10:15] <mornfall> is it supposed to be today? :-)
[11:10] <Riddell> seaLne: about?
[11:14] <seaLne> Riddell: yep
[11:15] <Riddell> seaLne: want to fire up a bittorrent on your elite bandwidth?
[11:15] <Riddell> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dapper/
[11:15] <seaLne> doh i was looking on cdimage for them
[11:18] <seaLne> checking md5s to make sure i have them first
[11:21] <verwilst> hooray!
[11:21] <Lure> congrats to everyone!
[11:22] <seaLne> Riddell: where are the torrents for the DVDs?
[11:23] <verwilst> woohoow, 4 meg per second :)
[11:23] <Riddell> Kubuntu 6.06 LTS has been released!  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[11:23] <Riddell> seaLne: not out yet, let me ask what's happening
[11:24] <seaLne> Problem connecting to tracker - (111, 'Connection refused')
[11:24] <seaLne> hmm
[11:24] <seaLne> Riddell: ^
[11:25] <MidMark> contratulations! Very good work!
[11:25] <Lure> Riddell: FAQ does not mention dapper in sources.list http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[11:26] <Lure> Riddell: and docu links are old: http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[11:26] <seaLne> verwilst: i take it the torrents are working for you?
[11:26] <Riddell> Lure: give me a chance :)
[11:26] <verwilst> i used ftp :)
[11:27] <verwilst> it's in
[11:27] <verwilst> want me to share with bittorrent too?
[11:27] <Lure> Riddell: ok - though these are left-out...
[11:28] <seaLne> rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for use with
[11:29] <Riddell> seaLne: working for me
[11:29] <Riddell> well, three of them ar
[11:29] <Riddell> are
[11:29] <seaLne> ah, a few of them have just started working
[11:29] <verwilst> i'm downloading desktop & alternate, i386 and amd64 version
[11:29] <verwilst> just to share it
[11:30] <verwilst> since i ftp'ed my own copy of kubuntu-alternate already ;)
[11:31] <verwilst> i hope bittorrent will work since i'm behind the company NAT gateways :)
[11:33] <seaLne> all torrents seem happy now
[11:34] <Riddell> seaLne: great
[11:34] <MidMark> where are linked in download page? I can't see them
[11:34] <seaLne> but i guess no one is downloading yet
[11:34] <seaLne> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/dapper/
[11:35] <verwilst> uploading works as well :)
[11:35] <MidMark> I mean dvd where are linked?
[11:35] <verwilst> sweeet
[11:36] <verwilst> hehe uploading @250kb/sec
[11:36] <verwilst> download +- 2
[11:36] <verwilst> :p
[11:38] <seaLne> MidMark: maybe kubuntu would be a better place for your questions
[11:38] <seaLne> #kubuntu
[11:38] <MidMark> ok
[11:42] <seaLne> Riddell: on announcement in Netboot Install you link to non existant wiki page
[11:43] <seaLne> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Installation/Netboot maybe?
[11:44] <Riddell> We probably needs a Kubuntu netboot install
[11:45] <Riddell> that basicly just points to the preseed file
[11:58] <seaLne> installing gnome-desktop sets gnome to the default in kdm
[11:58] <seaLne> i guess its using x-window-manager
[12:05] <seaLne> well i'm only uploading at 2.1MiB/s so there isn't that much demand
[12:06] <seaLne> no one seems to want ppc interestingly
[12:07] <OdyX> seaLne: well.. i386 isn't much demanded too
[12:07] <seaLne> 1.2Mib from me
[12:08] <seaLne> oh + .7
[12:08] <OdyX> and bizarely, alternate is more disponible than desktop
[12:12] <verwilst> i like alternate better
[12:13] <verwilst> it's far faster to install with the textbased install
[12:13] <OdyX> verwilst: as do I, but I download both... :D
[12:13] <verwilst> i'm downloading 4
[12:13] <verwilst> just to feed the torrents :)
[12:14] <OdyX> that's it... But I first have to download...
[12:14] <OdyX> I think I'll download them directly now...
[12:14] <OdyX> and then feed.
[12:14] <OdyX> It'll be better, huh ?
[12:15] <verwilst> uh can you do that?
[12:15] <OdyX> well.. With good clients it should be possible....
[12:24] <imbrandon> !?!! [05:23]  [473]  #ubuntu+1 You need to be invited to that channel
[12:35] <jeroenvrp> congratulations to all the devs!!
[12:36] <Riddell> thanks jeroenvrp
[12:54] <Riddell> seaLne: DVDs starting to appear http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[12:54] <seaLne> i take it they are 20060531.1 ?
[12:55] <Riddell> yes
[12:55] <Riddell> renamed
[12:56] <seaLne> md5ing dvds takes too long :)
[12:56] <Riddell> I did that over NFS at my uni once, sysadmin wasn't too happy with me
[12:57] <seaLne> why are the dvds in that extra release dir?
[12:57] <seaLne> err ignore me
[12:59] <seaLne> i'd misread that as beingon eleases.u.c
[12:59] <Riddell> no room on releases.u.c for DVDs
[01:00] <seaLne> oh?
[01:00] <seaLne> how will users know then?
[01:00] <Riddell> linked to from kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:01] <seaLne> ah
[01:01] <Riddell> but most users don't need the DVD
[01:01] <seaLne> confusing tho
[01:01] <Riddell> yes
[01:01] <seaLne> breezy dvd was downloaded way more than cd via bt
[01:03] <OdyX> tracker's bad for "alternate"....
[01:03] <seaLne> OdyX: ?
[01:04] <OdyX> seaLne: I don't know... I get errors...
[01:04] <OdyX> * Tracker: [couldn't connect to server]
[01:04] <seaLne> i got that originally then after a bit it started working
[01:04] <seaLne> you behind a firewall?
[01:04] <Riddell> OdyX: keep trying, the data centre it pretty busy
[01:04] <OdyX> not as far as I now...
[01:04] <OdyX> Riddell: and that's good :D
[01:05] <seaLne> yeah it would definitly be bad if no one was downloading :)
[01:05] <OdyX> Riddell: do you have usage graphs ?
[01:06] <Riddell> nope
[01:06] <Riddell> sysadmins do but we don't get to see them
[01:06] <OdyX> could be fine to see "Dapper boom"
[01:12] <seaLne> Riddell: you didn't send the announcement mail to
[01:12] <seaLne> ubuntu-announce?
[01:12] <Riddell> apparantly we're not getting an announcement on ubuntu-announce :(
[01:14] <seaLne> good way to restart the ubuntu dosen't really care about kde thread again :-/
[01:14] <OdyX> seaLne: ...
[01:14] <Riddell> yes
[01:15] <OdyX> seaLne: read sabdfl's announce: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/45
[01:15] <OdyX> seaLne: you'll see Xubuntu, SPARC, Debian....
[01:15] <OdyX> but no "K"
[01:16] <ajmitch_> OdyX: that's because SPARC support & xubuntu are new
[01:16] <OdyX> ajmitch_: sure they are... But Kubuntu 5.10 was nothing compared to this killing 6.06 LTS...
[01:16] <ajmitch_> you don't see him thanking the MOTUs either, or the art team
[01:16] <OdyX> ajmitch_: sure...
[01:17] <ajmitch_> so should I kick up a fuss now because I was ignored? :)
[01:17] <seaLne> yep :)
[01:17] <OdyX> ajmitch_: as don't I...
[01:19] <OdyX> ajmitch_: . . .
[01:32] <verwilst> hm,  i'm seeding the torrents with over 1meg per second
[01:33] <marseillai> seaLne: kubuntu still can't be install on sparc?
[01:33] <Riddell> marseillai: did you try?
[01:34] <marseillai> Riddell: i'll have my sparc tomorrow normally so i'll test this week end if everything is fine!
[01:34] <marseillai> but if it doesn't work i think i'll try debian at least to test hardware
[01:38] <Hobbsee> hey all
[01:38] <Riddell> morning Hobbsee
[01:39] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell - release didnt exhaust you too much, i see :)
[01:40] <Riddell> I seem to be all in one piece
[01:40] <Hobbsee> hehe oh good :P
[01:42] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, you should have seen #ubuntu it was a mad house to say the leaste
[01:42] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hehe!  i'll bet it was.  I was at uni, actually doing the assignment that i'd been putting off...
[01:43] <imbrandon> heh
[01:43] <imbrandon> ahh
[01:43] <Riddell> I appreciate all questions
[01:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: even this one?  when will we see edgy repos open?
[01:46] <Riddell> hah, I had a timer running to see when someone would ask that :)
[01:46] <imbrandon> heheh
[01:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: glad to see that i never disappoint :D
[01:47] <Lure> we all want some edgy fun - dapper is boring ;-)
[01:47] <Riddell> in answer, I've no idea, whenever the soyuz admins press the big green button I think
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Lure: very true.  who needs stability anyway :P
[01:48] <Hobbsee> just dont let it mess up my grub!
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ah okay :P
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Riddell: so how far did the timer get?
[01:48] <Riddell> 2 hours and 48 minutes
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:48] <Hobbsee> @time
[01:48] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 01 2006, 11:48:59
[01:49] <Hobbsee> not bad, not bad at all...
[01:49] <apokryphos> Riddell: congratulations on a great release :)
[01:50] <apokryphos> (the announcement page looks really great, too; will be nice to hand people that)
[01:50] <imbrandon> yea all of kubuntu.org looks alot better
[01:50] <imbrandon> ;)
[01:52] <Riddell> better than the cheesy stock "support bloke" photo on ubuntu.com?
[01:52] <apokryphos> oh yeah ;-)
[01:52] <apokryphos> one of the first things I thought, too
[01:52] <Hobbsee> hmmm...looks very nice :)
[01:52] <Hobbsee> and i'm not the model - yay!
[01:53] <apokryphos> now, doesn't he look so understanding :D
[01:53] <apokryphos> they changed the desktop and server picture I see
[01:53] <apokryphos> they had some stock photos for those too
[02:04] <Hobbsee> silly ndiswrapper, losing the connection.  or silly telstra.  whichever.
[02:04] <Riddell> screen is your friend
[02:04] <Riddell> (so long as you have a server with a decent connection and don't mind lag)
[02:04] <Hobbsee> bleck.  lag is evil
[02:04] <Hobbsee> and i cant do much if the ISP goes down for a bit.
[02:05] <Riddell> true
[02:05] <Hobbsee> mind you, i *do* have the wired connection here, so am not totally stranded if/when ndiswrapper borks
[02:05] <Hobbsee> that takes out the phone, and the net connection - what fun!  :P
[02:06] <seaLne> marseillai: well i only tried what became the release image on blade100 and ultra10
[02:07] <seaLne> Hobbsee: i'd thought about asking about edgy last night but thought better of it :)
[02:08] <Hobbsee> seaLne: hehe.  i always run such risks :P  And have people wanting to shoot me, as a consequence :P
[02:09] <Riddell> seaLne: it's not been released on sparc
[02:09] <Riddell> Hobbsee: don't you have an elite university connection available?
[02:09] <seaLne> Riddell: ok technically i suppose :)
[02:10] <seaLne> ultra10s don't like cdrws i discovered
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Riddell: sure.  but that's at uni.  and i finally came home.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> and it's kinda slow, and the tech people are really freaky, and can look at what you're doing on the screen.
[02:11] <Hobbsee> oh, and lock you out of the uni system.   which would suck.
[02:11] <Riddell> do they have vnc running or something?
[02:12] <seaLne> Hobbsee: but.. but.. but suspending accounts is the fun part of the job :)
[02:12] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i've got no idea...i've not been able to poke around too much - mainly because they have better security than school did, and that they have the ability to send out scary men who come and glare at you, and to lock you out
[02:12] <Hobbsee> seaLne: hehe
[02:13] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:14] <seaLne> a applet i had written took down the server it was running on
[02:14] <marseillai> Riddell: there is a mistake here : http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[02:14] <marseillai> a big mistake
[02:14] <Hobbsee> hehe!  nice!
[02:14] <seaLne> unfortunatly this was the main shell server
[02:15] <Riddell> marseillai: hmm?
[02:15] <marseillai> Bittorrent point on http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/dvd/ instead of http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release/dvd/
[02:15] <imbrandon> whoops
[02:15] <Riddell> well spotted, fixed
[02:15] <seaLne> its a test to see if they deserve the dvd
[02:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:15] <imbrandon> heh
[02:16] <imbrandon> the dvd IS just the livecd+textinstall correct ?
[02:16] <Riddell> the breezy torrents will be dead anyway
[02:16] <Riddell> imbrandon: plus "supported"
[02:16] <imbrandon> supported ?
[02:16] <seaLne> so even worse, it takes for ever to download the wrong dvd :)
[02:16] <Riddell> everything else in main
[02:16] <imbrandon> ahh
[02:17] <seaLne> does it install anymore?
[02:17] <imbrandon> so kubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-dekstop etc etc etc all on there ( well the packages to make them )
[02:17] <imbrandon> but it installs / boots kubuntu by default ?
[02:18] <seaLne> yeah seperate k/ubuntu dvds
[02:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: not if enough silly users go and download the wrong release :P
[02:18] <Riddell> imbrandon: only kubuntu on there
[02:19] <imbrandon> seaLne, yea i ment more if i pop in the kubuntu dvd and install it , then later "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" would it grab it from the dvd ( as long as the package wasent updated )
[02:19] <imbrandon> ahh ok Riddell
[02:20] <imbrandon> i have a local dapper mirror on my lan anyhow so no need for the dvd ;)
[02:20] <seaLne> imbrandon: you mean to say you haven't installed dapper yet?
[02:20] <imbrandon> seaLne, yea i've been running dapper months
[02:21] <imbrandon> was just curious
[02:21] <imbrandon> since flight 5 or so
[02:21] <imbrandon> ;)
[02:21] <seaLne> just checking :P
[02:22] <imbrandon> yea just curious so when they ask me in #kubuntu i know the correct awnser ;)
[02:23] <seaLne> Riddell: have you thought about making a full content RSS feed?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> ack!  no more network borking!
[02:25] <Riddell> seaLne: nope, I suppose I could although the rss feed is made by hand so it would increase the chances of me messing it up somewhere
[02:25] <Riddell> I wonder if the server is set up to let me do rss with php
[02:26] <imbrandon> riddell i could whip up a php rss feed if the thing is coming from a db
[02:26] <imbrandon> which i hope it is
[02:26] <Hobbsee> whatever you do, dont start doing a rss feed that only has the topic, and nothing about it - that's annoying...
[02:26] <imbrandon> Riddell, http://www.imbrandon.com/rss.xml is a php scipt xml feed, very easy to make
[02:27] <imbrandon> heheh Hobbsee yea , but he said full content ;)
[02:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i know :P
[02:28] <Riddell> Hobbsee: worst thing about kde dot news I know
[02:28] <Hobbsee> they're not alone in doing it, unfortunately.  but yeah
[02:29] <seaLne> can save a lot of bandwidth for stupid rss clients tho
[02:30] <Riddell> imbrandon: that's taken from a database though is'nt it?
[02:30] <imbrandon> yea a mysql db
[02:30] <seaLne> interesting rss reader figures from bloglines fridge: 88 kubuntu: 65 and ubuntu planet: 108 subscribers
[02:31] <Riddell> we're almost up there with fridge!
[02:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee: if you hvae elite uni bandwidth you could bittorrent the images
[02:33] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i dont, it's even worse there than at home
[02:33] <Hobbsee> and i'm not eager to get on the wrong side of big giants again...
[02:33] <imbrandon> heh i got them seeding off buntudot.org ;)
[02:37] <Riddell> imbrandon: what's intended for that domain?
[02:38] <imbrandon> Riddell, a buntu radio show / central news site
[02:39] <imbrandon> with a slashdot type news interface but i'm doing it by hand becouse 1) i want php and slashcode is perl and 2) slashcode is the suxors
[02:40] <imbrandon> TheMuso and me were thinking about a weekly podcast type radio thing from a buntu team member per week, like you or mdz , sabdfl etc etc etc
[02:40] <Riddell> ambitious
[02:41] <Riddell> seaLne: whatever happened to behind ubuntu?
[02:41] <imbrandon> still in the works heheh thus the blank page , but i just reg'd the domain two days ago and just started the php code today
[02:44] <seaLne> Riddell: apparently french is so hard a language to translate stuff into a month after other translations were done it still isn't finished
[02:44] <seaLne> Riddell: honest i'm not serverly pissed off with them
[02:47] <goldenear> seaLne: what's wrong with french ?
[02:48] <Riddell> seaLne: ust set a deadline and say you're not waiting
[02:48] <Riddell> just
[02:49] <goldenear> seaLne: what translation do you need ?
[02:49] <seaLne> i plan to on the next meeting on monday, first deadline for kinnison was missed with the excuse of not realising that when i sent them the interview and they agreed a publishing date that they should actually translate it, then more broken promises for the last few weeks
[02:50] <seaLne> goldenear: got germna, danish and chinese done for this interview and apparently french is nearly done
[02:51] <goldenear> ok
[02:51] <seaLne> goldenear: are you french?
[02:51] <goldenear> yes
[02:51] <goldenear> (but don't say it to anybody ;) )
[02:52] <Hobbsee> what are we going to do about this?  apparently it's still happening.https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/39658
[02:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39658 in kubuntu-meta "[dist-upgrader]  dist-upgrade wants to delete almost kde packages while migrating from breezy to dapper" [Major,Confirmed]
[02:52] <Lure> Hobbsee: would be naice to fix with -updates, but not sure if possible at all
[02:53] <seaLne> wouldn't -updates be too late?
[02:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:53] <Hobbsee> guess it would..
[02:53] <seaLne> i thought about looking at it and quickly realised i wouldn't have a clue :(
[02:54] <Hobbsee> you'd have to force kubuntu-desktop to be installed, after it'd done all of that
[02:55] <Hobbsee> removing kdelibs would force all the kde packages to be removed - that much is obvious - but how to force kubuntu desktop ot be installed at the end?
[02:55] <seaLne> wouldn't the solution be not having it removed in the first place?
[02:55] <Lure> seaLne: why? when user changes breezy->dapper it will get also new updates - it does not help for users that already did upgrade (but there is workaround to cure it)
[02:55] <goldenear> Hobbsee: "My sources.list is very common : I only added [...]  the kubuntu.org updates for Amarok, kde 3.5.2 and koffice" <-- that might be the problem ?
[02:55] <seaLne> nope same with and without
[02:56] <Lure> seaLne: exactly - not sure why kdelibs get removed...
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Lure: they wont think to try to upgrade again, when they lose x
[02:56] <seaLne> Lure: it dosen't
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Lure: because kdelibs4c2a replaces it
[02:56] <Hobbsee> i expect
[02:56] <seaLne> ah it does?
[02:56] <Lure> then the problem is that kdelibs4c2a needs to "Provides/Replaces" kdelibs and we should be fine...
[02:57] <Lure> Riddell: ^^^
[02:57] <Hobbsee> what's the breezy version of kdelibs?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> what's it called?
[02:57] <Lure> Hobbsee: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/kdelibs
[02:58] <Lure> but there is also http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/kdelibs4c2
[02:58] <Lure> so this is probably not the case for removal...
[02:58] <seaLne> kdelibs4c2 is one of the removed things
[02:58] <seaLne> see the top of http://librarian.launchpad.net/2923982/breezy2dapper-20050525.txt
[02:58] <seaLne> ignore the error at the bottom of that hard disk was about to fail
[03:04] <Hobbsee_> my connection almightly sucks tonight!
[03:04] <Hobbsee_> Lure: did you find out your answer?  i did
[03:04] <Hobbsee> and that time my net connection didnt go down...well, it did - then the keyboard input stopped.
[03:15] <Riddell> toma_rfg: what does Gilles Caulier do in KDE?
[03:16] <jsgotangco> Riddell: congratulations :)
[03:17] <bobesponja> Riddell: digikam
[03:21] <Riddell> jsgotangco: thanks :)
[03:21] <jjesse> just download LTS desktop and gettign ready to load in virtual machine, just wanted to say congrats on getting it released :)
[03:24] <Riddell> jjesse: say that again when you have it lodaed :)
[03:24] <jjesse> grin will do
[03:24] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:24] <jsgotangco> its actually running in one of my machines
[03:24] <jsgotangco> BIG IMPROVEMENT
[03:25] <jsgotangco> light years ahead
[03:28] <seaLne> bah i can't print anymore, zero sized output
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Lure: pnig.
[03:44] <Hobbsee> ping
[03:45] <imbrandon> [08:44]  <[HUN] Big_T> can anyone help me with my ubuntu install? i get an error message when the system root is mounting: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused
[03:45] <imbrandon> ^^ anyone got a clue ?
[03:47] <imbrandon> Riddell, ping ..... any idea or know whom to ask ?
[03:49] <jjesse> imbrandon: ar eyou using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?  did you ask on kubuntu-users or ubuntu-users ?
[03:50] <imbrandon> jjesse, kubuntu ... from the #kubuntu chan , i had him clarify
[03:52] <imbrandon> k i'm off to sleep ..... gnight all
[03:53] <Riddell> imbrandon: I've no ideas
[03:54] <imbrandon> np someone else helped him ( something about a bios setting for his cdrom drive )
[03:59] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian (again)
[04:00] <bddebian> :-)
[04:00] <bddebian> w00t
[04:00] <Hobbsee> better catch it - you dont want that to smash :P
[04:00] <Hobbsee> midn you, smashing stuff up is FUN :D
[04:00] <seaLne> bddebian: watch out its full of petrol and has a burning rag hanging out
[04:01] <Hobbsee> especially when you have lovely yellow liquid that then ends up staining everything, including lab notes :P
[04:01] <bddebian> seaLne: lol
[04:01] <bddebian> Hobbsee: You peed on your homework?
[04:01] <Hobbsee> it was cesium or something...
[04:04] <jjesse> wow kubuntu.org is ssssssssslllllllllllllllooooooooooowwwwwwww
[04:04] <sebas> Hardly surprising :)
[04:05] <Riddell> the whole datacentre will be
[04:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:05] <jjesse> grin i can't imagine the total size transfered/downloaded today will b
[04:10] <OdyX> jjesse: that's probably "a lot"
[04:10] <OdyX> :D
[04:11] <bobesponja> hey all
[04:12] <seaLne> well i've uploaded 30G via bt so far :)
[04:12] <jjesse> wow
[04:12] <bobesponja> I wrote a little app for windows users so they can download and burn Kubuntu easily with only one click
[04:13] <bobesponja> here is the annoucement http://getmydistro.blogspot.com/2006/06/getmydistro-01-released.html
[04:13] <bobesponja> and the screenshot http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7632/1531/1600/getmydistro3.png
[04:15] <seaLne> cool, that looks quite simple to use
[04:16] <OdyX> bobesponja: that seems good.
[04:16] <bobesponja> it uses bittorrent
[04:16] <bobesponja> well the basic python bittorrent client
[04:17] <OdyX> bobesponja: seems to miss an icon, huh ?
[04:17] <bobesponja> yep, I'm not an artist
[04:17] <bobesponja> OdyX: if you can get me one that would be cool
[04:17] <bobesponja> I tried it on my laptop and on my desktop but more testing would be welcome
[04:19] <goldenear> bobesponja: where is the button to format the harddrive (removing windows) before rebooting on the CD ? ;)
[04:19] <bobesponja> goldenear: lol yeah that's for 0.2 ;)
[04:20] <goldenear>  bobesponja: good news :D
[04:20] <goldenear> lol
[04:20] <bobesponja> goldenear: actually I thought about that, but kubuntu installer can do it so
[04:23] <goldenear> bobesponja: I know, I was kidding :)
[04:26] <bobesponja> Riddell: maybe you could post about it (http://getmydistro.blogspot.com/2006/06/getmydistro-01-released.html) on the download page of kubuntu.org :)
[04:34] <Riddell> bobesponja: very interesting, I can't put it on kubuntu.org without testing it but I'll put it in my blog and see what people make of it
[04:34] <bobesponja> Riddell: thanx
[04:35] <Riddell> bobesponja: is the source available?
[04:35] <Riddell> yeah, I see it
[04:35] <seaLne> the download seems extremly slow
[04:36] <imbrandon> yea i think the servers are /.'d heh
[04:36] <imbrandon> kubuntu.org is ungodly slow right now
[04:36] <seaLne> i ment bobesponjas thing
[04:37] <seaLne> imbrandon: that must have been a very short sleep
[04:37] <imbrandon> never went to sleep yet, went to bed and couldent sleep
[04:37] <imbrandon> lol
[04:37] <imbrandon> so i grabed a soda and will go back to bed soon ;)
[04:38] <bobesponja> I'm uploading it to another mirror
[04:38] <bobesponja> seaLne: http://p80.free.fr/Setup.exe
[04:39] <seaLne> 2/3 so not worth changing now i guess
[04:45] <seaLne> bobesponja: i get a download failed, does it try to access a web page?
[04:45] <seaLne> (after clicking the get kubuntu button)
[04:48] <bobesponja> seaLne: no, it trys to download the torrent file first
[04:48] <bobesponja> seaLne: try again
[04:49] <seaLne> i guess if it tries to download from a website it will fail if you are behind a proxy
[04:49] <bobesponja> seaLne: aer you behind a proxy?
[04:49] <seaLne> well i need to use a proxy for port 80 access
[04:50] <seaLne> so i guess i'm not a very good test for you
[04:51] <bobesponja> I think I'm gonna include the torrent into the app
[04:52] <seaLne> bobesponja: it might be worth asking the sysadmins whether they ever change the torrent file
[04:52] <bobesponja> seaLne: yes
[04:52] <bobesponja> seaLne: do all the downloads fail for you?
[04:53] <seaLne> i think worrying about proxies is maybe beyond the need of most of the users for your program
[04:53] <seaLne> yes
[04:55] <bobesponja> seaLne: yes I guess so, plus proxy are usually used at work not at home and this kind of app is used at home
[04:55] <bobesponja> seaLne: do you have a proxy at home? :)
[04:55] <seaLne> no, but i don't have windows at home
[04:56] <bobesponja> well actually it's just a Qt4 app so it should compile on linux
[04:56] <bobesponja> seaLne: I'm gonna try to make it work on linux maybe I'll get more testers
[04:57] <seaLne> you might get more testers but probably not more users
[05:46] <cmvo> Riddell and all the others: Congratulations and thanks for Kubuntu 6.06!
[05:47] <nixternal> dito from me...good job, and thanks for letting me test with it...thanks for the support....thanks for the community...as we say in the navy, Bravo Zulu...Congratulations on a job well done!!!
[05:47] <Hobbsee> hi cmvo
[05:47] <Hobbsee> and nixternal
[05:47] <nixternal> hey Hobbsee
[05:47] <cmvo> Hi Hobbsee!
[05:47] <nixternal> im still in the process of uncrossing my eyes this morning
[05:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:48] <nixternal> coffee is working very slowly this morning
[05:48] <cmvo> Hobbsee: Whats you local time 23:48?
[05:48] <Hobbsee> cmvo: um...
[05:48] <Hobbsee> @time sydney
[05:48] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Sydney: June 02 2006, 01:49:00
[05:49] <Hobbsee> there you go
[05:49] <Hobbsee> crud, i was going to go to bed before 2am today...
[05:49] <nixternal> let me guess..gotta be at work at 7am too ey Hobbsee?
[05:49] <Hobbsee> nixternal: er...no, first lecture is at 10...
[05:49] <nixternal> my daughters godmother lives somewhere around Sidney...supposed to go out and visit soon
[05:49] <cmvo> Hobbsee:  Ah, thanks. Then you got all the right to be sleepy :-)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:49] <Hobbsee> i sure do :P
[05:50] <nixternal> so you can sleep to 9:50 then ;)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:50] <bobesponja> Riddell: you can test it on linux now http://getmydistro.blogspot.com/2006/06/getmydistro-for-gnulinux.html
[05:50] <Hobbsee> not and make it on time...
[05:50] <nixternal> hehe
[05:50] <bobesponja> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7632/1531/1600/gnulinux.png :)
[05:50] <nixternal> i didn't say anything about making it on time...you can make it though ;)
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:51] <Hobbsee> like i did todya...yes...
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hmmm...what was it...about 5 hours and 15 mins late?
[05:51] <bobesponja> seaLne: here it is http://p80.free.fr/gnulingetmydistro.tar.bz2
[05:52] <nixternal> 5 hours and 15 minutes late...and the lecture was still going on?  if that's true, thank god you were that late, cuz you would have probably fallin' asleep
[05:53] <Hobbsee> nixternal: no, was a different lecture by that point.
[05:53] <nixternal> i swear...digg and slashdot have 2 purposes...render websites useless
[05:53] <nixternal> probably a different day too ;)
[05:54] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:54] <Hobbsee> no, just a different lecture...
[05:55] <nixternal> at least you made it...thats a good start ;)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:59] <nixternal> nite Hobbsee
[05:59] <Hobbsee> night nixternal
[05:59] <cmvo> Hobbsee: bye!
[06:06] <Hobbsee> hey Lure
[06:09] <nixternal> how come the kubuntuforums.net aren't up to date???  no release stuff whatsoever on the front page
[06:09] <Hobbsee> nixternal: we dont run them, i expect
[06:09] <Hobbsee> kubuntu.org is up to date - forums are by other people.
[06:09] <nixternal> i kinda figured that
[06:09] <nixternal> cuz the look is different
[06:10] <seaLne> nixternal: i see stuff about dapper and 353 on that site
[06:10] <nixternal> dapper rc...not final
[06:10] <nixternal> 3.5.3 was the last post
[06:11] <seaLne> ah, so it is
[06:11] <nixternal> hehe
[06:11] <seaLne> maybe the forum admins aren't home from school yet
[06:11] <nixternal> it is funny..people in the forums are complaining that downloading release candidate is slow today...LOL...i wonder why...
[06:11] <Lure> hi Hobbsee
[06:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:12] <Hobbsee> nixternal: that's the advantage of testing - the repos are all pretty fast
[06:12] <Hobbsee> usually not mirrored though
[06:12] <Hobbsee> so grabbing kde 3.5.3 was pretty fast - we got it before everyone else :D
[06:12] <nixternal> no..the thing is...they are griping about RC today, when it is posted that the final is out
[06:12] <Hobbsee> true.  weird.
[06:12] <seaLne> maybe different time zone?
[06:12] <nixternal> hehe...i think besides Riddell i was next to install it...i was campin' out when Riddell posted it
[06:13] <Hobbsee> yep
[06:13] <nixternal> hehe
[06:13] <nixternal> im lovin' 3.5.3
[06:13] <Hobbsee> after 3.5 beta2...ouchy...
[06:13] <nixternal> it is quicker for me at least
[06:13] <Hobbsee> right.  i'm off.
[06:13] <nixternal> ya..3.5 beta2 was an ouch..but Riddell reassured me that it wasn't the same
[06:13] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:13] <nixternal> hehe
[06:13] <Lure> nixternal: yes 3.5.3 is much faster on startup
[06:14] <nixternal> night Hobbsee
[06:14] <nixternal> for real this time
[06:14] <nixternal> 3.5.3 is quicker all around for me...and yes definately faster on startup
[06:18] <nixternal> it doesn't seem that many people downloading are grabbing torrents...direct http/ftp downloads i guess...i haven't served that much since i went to sleep last night
[06:27] <OdyX> nixternal: I can hardly download... But I'll seed as soon as possible...
[06:27] <nixternal> nobody realling is grabbing it...im watching both of my seeds now...and they just aren't doing much
[06:27] <nixternal> right now im a 0.0kb upload
[06:28] <nixternal> my torrent download is flying
[06:28] <OdyX> Rate:  26.2 /   3.0 KB
[06:28] <OdyX> Up/Dow
[06:29] <nixternal> im at 1003 / 9 kb right now
[06:40] <\sh> 23
[06:48] <Tonio_> hey ;)
[07:17] <seth> mornfall, ping?
[07:17] <mornfall> seth: semi-pong
[07:17] <mornfall> what's up
[07:17] <seth> mornfall, quick question... guy in #kubuntu is trying to use adept to yoink java and gets http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9812/snapshot25do.png
[07:17] <seth> and I don't know how to tell him to hit OK
[07:17] <seth> he says pressing Enter does nothing
[07:18] <mornfall> that's lame :|
[07:18] <mornfall> well, clicking into the konsole and hitting enter still doesn't help i assume?
[07:18] <seth> nope :(
[07:18] <mornfall> no idea then
[07:18] <seth> I'll just tell him to cancel and install java via cli
[07:18] <seth> okay
[07:18] <seth> sorry to bother
[07:19] <seth> thanks :)
[07:19] <mornfall> i knew the hidden konsole thing would generate trouble
[07:19] <mornfall> i could probably crank out a fix
[07:19] <mornfall> hmm
[07:19] <mornfall> now as i think of it
[07:19] <mornfall> shame it's a bit late :p
[07:26] <mornfall> --> pub
[07:26] <mornfall> later
[07:30] <jpatrick> cya
[07:30] <seaLne> Riddell: you seen there is a xubuntu announcement on ubuntu-announce?
[07:42] <OdyX> seaLne: could you maybe stop trolling ? XD
[07:42] <jpatrick> OdyX: lol
[07:42] <seaLne> :P
[07:42] <OdyX> jpatrick: yop
[07:43] <jpatrick> ownage I see
[07:43] <jpatrick> say*
[07:45] <jpatrick> seaLne: kubuntu announcement @ kubuntu-devel
[07:45] <seaLne> thats not the point
[07:46] <jpatrick> It is now...
[07:46] <jpatrick> ;)
[07:59] <kmon> hi
[07:59] <kmon> thanks for dapper ;)
[08:00] <jpatrick> kmon: yo
[08:00] <kmon> hi jpatrick
[08:03] <kmon> Riddell: thanks for fixing kde 3.5.3 in amd64
[08:03] <kmon> if you ever come to madrid I'll buy you all the beers you can take xD
[08:05] <jpatrick> kmon: how are you?
[08:05] <kmon> tired
[08:05] <kmon> but happy for dapper
[08:05] <kmon> and excited for the paris summit
[08:05] <jjesse> i wish i was able to come to paris :(
[08:06] <jpatrick> jjesse: come over to the otherside...
[08:07] <jjesse> jpatrick: just started a new job and have no vacation yet :)
[08:07] <kmon> the kubuntu website is slow.... I imagine it's the dapper efect
[08:07] <jjesse> kmon: it was timing out for me earlier this morning EST
[08:07] <kmon> did everyone else noticed kubuntu was out earlier than ubunu? :P
[08:08] <kmon> ubuntu
[08:10] <bddebian> rockin'!! :-)
[08:10] <apachelogger> anyway, off for server maintenance
[08:13] <Flosoft> jpatrick: well ... if you want the iso ;) ... http://mirrors.flosoft.biz/projects/kubuntu
[08:13] <kmon> arggg
[08:13] <kmon> xmms is brought back with kde 3.5.3
[08:14] <kmon> :(
[08:14] <kmon> and gtk1
[08:14] <pradeepto> guys little late in the day I guess.... BUT GREAT WORK on Kubuntu Dapper Drake :)
[08:14] <pradeepto> Team Kubuntu Cheers!
[08:16] <jpatrick> Flosoft: groovy
[08:16] <Flosoft> hehe ... alternate are on the wa ... ;)
[08:16] <Flosoft> Flosoft High-Speed Downloads as usual ...
[08:16] <Flosoft> different mirrors still need to be updated ;)
[08:17] <pradeepto> folks laters, just wanted to drop in say congratulations. :)
[08:20] <dickhall_> anyone here use bzr-NG? I'm having trouble pulling down the katapult source
[08:29] <tvo> dickhall_: what commands did you use?  I'm one of the katapult devs so I ought to know it (I doubt I do tho ;))
[08:29] <dickhall_> :)
[08:30] <dickhall_> bzr branch http://baz.thekatapult.org.uk/dev/
[08:30] <dickhall_> as written on the wiki
[08:30] <dickhall_> (I've never used bzr, so I'm just following orders
[08:34] <tvo> bzr branch seems to do something here but it takes really long somehow
[08:35] <jpatrick> I thought it was bzr get
[08:35] <dickhall_> I'm getting (sorry for the paste, but it's low traffic):
[08:35] <dickhall_> bzr: ERROR: command: '/usr/bin/bzr' 'branch' 'http://baz.thekatapult.org.uk/stable/'
[08:36] <dickhall_> pwd: /home/chris/katapult
[08:36] <dickhall_> an integer is required at /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py line 432, in run() see ~/.bzr.log for debug information
[08:36] <tvo> dickhall_: hm that doesn't happen here
[08:36] <dickhall_> :(
[08:37] <tvo> well, unless it happens later in the command, it isn't finished here
[08:37] <dickhall_> are you doing that over an existing branch, or in a new area?
[08:37] <dickhall_> oh, it happens quite quickly, you'd know by know
[08:37] <tvo> clean dir
[08:37] <dickhall_> er, now
[08:37] <dickhall_> hrm
[08:37] <tvo> jpatrick: I think with baz it was baz get
[08:37] <jpatrick> ok
[08:38] <tvo> dickhall_: you're using standard dapper install of bzr?
[08:38] <dickhall_> I'm still on breezy
[08:38] <tvo> hmkay
[08:38] <dickhall_> I'm at work, and I'm hesitant to do a full upgrade in case it results in downtime
[08:38] <dickhall_> but yeah, just installed bzr today
[08:39] <tvo> so maybe bzr in breezy is a bit broken
[08:39] <tvo> or did you get it from backports or bzr's own repo?
[08:39] <dickhall_> just standard adept
[08:40] <dickhall_> I'll try bzr's site
[08:43] <dickhall_> oooh, much better :)
[08:43] <tvo> it works now?
[08:44] <dickhall_> well, it's fetching, and hasn't bailed out in the first 4 seconds
[08:44] <dickhall_> so an improvement at least
[08:45] <tvo> guess it will do fine then, it took a while here too
[08:46] <Flosoft> Riddell: Are you back?
[08:51] <dickhall_> sweet, worked, thanks tvo
[08:53] <tvo> np
[08:54] <dickhall_> so, are you guys looking for new devs or accepting patches? I'm just dabbling currently, but if I have enough time I would love to contribute
[08:55] <tvo> dickhall_: we're sort of making plans for katapult 0.4
[08:55] <OdyX> dickhall_: what is your current status ?
[08:55] <tvo> redesiging the API to support multithreading (for slow catalogs which need to query the web for example)
[08:55] <tvo> and multiple actions
[08:55] <dickhall_> yeah, I read some of the braindumps
[08:55] <dickhall_> OdyX: in what sense?
[08:56] <tvo> but it's going really slow as I'm spending most of my open source software dev time on another project
[08:56] <tvo> and our leader (Mez) is without a proper internet connection
[08:56] <OdyX> dickhall_: I mean... DD, power user, brother of sabdfl ?
[08:56] <tvo> and I didn't get used to bzr yet, doesn't help either..
[08:58] <kmon> krita 1.5.1 is broken in amd64
[08:58] <dickhall_> I have no open source experience - went right from school to a job. what you see now is me trying to get into open source ;)
[08:58] <kmon> krita: error while loading shared libraries: libkio.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:58] <Flosoft> I added the all the files to my mirrors ... can you update the page?
[08:58] <dickhall_> I'm a professional programmer, working at an threat protection company on antispam software
[08:59] <dickhall_> most of the stuff I've been doing recently has been perl, javascript, and html, which is why I want to get into OSS - I'd like to get back into C++
[08:59] <dickhall_> and contribute to the community, of course
[09:00] <dickhall_> I enjoy long walks on the beach and chocolate. anything else, OdyX ? ;)
[09:01] <OdyX> dickhall_: Well. I'm no decider nor nothing... But everybody's welcome...
[09:01] <OdyX> dickhall_: got your LP account ?
[09:01] <dickhall_> LP?
[09:02] <dickhall_> like I said, I'm new to the community, from a dev standpoint at least
[09:02] <jpatrick> https://launchpad.net/
[09:02] <dickhall_> thanks, checking it out
[09:03] <dickhall_> I'm only in the dabbling phase currently - downloaded the source and started hacking yesterday for fun
[09:03] <OdyX> dickhall_: source of what ?
[09:03] <dickhall_> katapult, that's what I was chatting about with tvo
[09:04] <OdyX> dickhall_: work on Kubuntu is mainly packaging and debugging, not a lot of programmation...
[09:05] <dickhall_> I know - when I said "are you guys looking for new devs or accepting patches" it was about katapult specifically - 'twas addressed to tvo
[09:05] <OdyX> dickhall_: welll. katapult is not a Kubuntu matter... It's included in it, maybe a little adapted to Debian (then Kubuntu). If you want to "hack" katapult, you'd better join katapult's team directly, and get involved there, upstream...
[09:05] <dickhall_> that's what I was doing - tvo is on katapult's team ;)
[09:05] <tvo> katapult is a bit Kubuntu matter :)
[09:05] <dickhall_> heh
[09:05] <dickhall_> gotta jet to a meeting, I'll return
[09:05] <tvo> as Kubuntu made sure it got continued being developed after orig author quit
[09:07] <tvo> dickhall_: but any dev power, esp. redesigning now would be really useful... I don't want to push bad API in, so if you got C++ experience and can comment on it :)
[09:07] <kmon> Riddell: where do we fill bugs against your unofficial packages? (kde 3.5.3 or koffice 1.5.1)
[09:19] <OdyX> kmon: official BTS is /msg Riddell I have a bug.
[09:19] <kmon> OdyX: My irc name isn't registered....
[09:19] <kmon> so maybe I'll send him an email
[09:20] <OdyX> kmon: I was joking, but I think LP is maybe not the best place...
[09:20] <OdyX> _maybe_
[09:20] <kmon> dunno, but thanks
[09:47] <Flosoft> Riddell: Are you back?
[09:47] <jpatrick> Flosoft: he might not be back for a long time
[09:48] <jpatrick> send him an email or something
[09:48] <Flosoft> damn ... isn't there anyone else who can update the mirror page?
[09:56] <OdyX> Flosoft: I think he's the only one with rights.
[09:57] <seaLne> to k.o? yeah
[09:57] <OdyX> that's perfectible though...
[09:58] <kwwii> night all
[09:58] <kwwii> downloading dapper for the two new ppc build machines
[09:58] <kwwii> which works great when sleeping :-)
[10:26] <kmon> Riddell: I've created a wiki page to track issues with kubuntu.org packages. If it's not the appropiate place, feel free to remove it and point out where to track them.
[10:27] <seaLne> kmon: maybe it would be usefull if you shared its name :)
[10:27] <kmon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/kubuntuUnofficialPackages
[10:28] <kmon> the K is not capital
[10:28] <kmon> arg
[10:30] <kmon> how do I change the initial k to K
[10:30] <kmon> ?
[10:31] <seaLne> create a new one?
[10:32] <kmon> I'm doing so
[10:32] <kmon> I hope I can delete the other one
[10:33] <seaLne> if not i think you can do some sort of redirect, not sure how tho
[10:34] <kmon> I've also linked in main kubuntu wiki page
[10:34] <kmon> so it's easy to track it
[10:35] <seaLne> cool
[10:35] <seaLne> nn
[10:35] <kmon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUnofficialPackages
[10:35] <kmon> has anyone tried the kaffeine 0.8 package from kubuntu.de?
[10:39] <Flosoft> how can I contact Ridell?
[10:39] <kmon> email him
[10:40] <Flosoft> whats his mail?
[10:40] <kmon> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.06-lts-release.php
[10:40] <jeroenvrp> kmon: no, I compiled my own 0.8.1 and works great
[10:40] <kmon> it's at the end of the page
[10:40] <kmon> jeroenvrp:  I'm a lazy bastard
[10:41] <kmon> :)
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> maybe I have the deb somewhere around
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> kmon: I have a checkinstall-deb for you
[10:41] <kmon> I'm on amd64
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> mmm
[10:41] <jeroenvrp> ok
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> thats a shame
[10:42] <kmon> I'll end up using kubuntu.de packages
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> I think you should try those yes
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> why not
[10:42] <kmon> but I wanted to know if someone has tried them before installing them
[10:42] <jeroenvrp> Proberly .de have test it :_)
[10:42] <kmon> surely
[10:50] <kmon> kde 3.5.3 has reverted the dockable tray icons
[10:50] <kmon> now they are all in the same row
[10:50] <kmon> it's strange
[11:20] <Tonio_> hey did someone here install kde 3.5.3 ?
[11:21] <Tonio_> I have the feeling cursor on the desktop doesn't work....
[11:21] <Tonio_> I just get a black one
[11:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: can you confirm ?
[11:22] <nixternal> Tonio_: i have kde 3.5.3 installed...i installed it this morning
[11:22] <nixternal> on this system here as a matter of fact
[11:22] <bddebian> Later folks, Congrats again!
[11:22] <nixternal> l8r bddebian
[11:22] <Tonio_> nixternal: is your cursor theme correct on the desktop ?
[11:22] <Tonio_> bddebian: ;)
[11:22] <nixternal> let me check on desktop real quick..it is fine here in konversation...let me confirm desktop
[11:23] <Tonio_> nixternal: tanks
[11:23] <nixternal> yes it is fine. i have the default mouse cursor showing correct on the desktop
[11:23] <Tonio_> what the hell..................... I have a clean dapper installation, and a fresh profile...........
[11:24] <nixternal> im installing a fresh setup on another machine and will upgrade to kde 3.5.3 as soon as possible...i will see if it happens there
[11:25] <nixternal> text install is so solid..i love it...quick as all hell too
[11:26] <Tonio_> nixternal: I prefer text install too
[11:26] <Tonio_> okay so let's reinstall a clean dapper system and compare
[11:26] <nixternal> im half way there
[11:29] <nixternal> Tonio_: you only get the black curson when you are on the desktop? it doesn't happen anywhere else?
[11:29] <nixternal> s/curson/cursor
[11:29] <Tonio_> it happens on all windows on the bar too
[11:29] <nixternal> that is odd
[11:29] <Tonio_> I can see that kde also switched back the systray to one line mode
[11:29] <Tonio_> I hate this...........
[11:30] <nixternal> one line mode?
[11:30] <nixternal> oh..where the icons are all on one line
[11:30] <Tonio_> yes, the systray on 3.5.2 was on 2 lines by default
[11:30] <Tonio_> they removed this...........
[11:30] <nixternal> yes...i kind of liked that...but i do like the one line the way i have it now...so it really doesn't bother me
[11:30] <kmon> It's not even mentioned in the changelog...
[11:31] <kmon> so I don't know why
[11:31] <Tonio_> kmon: nope...
[11:31] <Tonio_> kmon: I think that should be configurable in the sysray options
[11:31] <nixternal> i think i seen Riddell and them talking about it too...and fixing it somehow...how they fixed it though i can't remember
[11:32] <kmon> Tonio_: that was my first thought when I saw the feature removed
[11:32] <kmon> but apparently it has left us....
[11:32] <Tonio_> kmon: sadly yes...........
[11:32] <Tonio_> kmon: I use to have lots of things launched at the same time, so it was very usefull for me....
[11:33] <kmon> the tray looked better
[11:33] <nixternal> i have never had an operating system from boot up to install complete in less then 15 minutes..this is wonderful
[11:33] <Tonio_> kmon: do you see the cursor issue or not ?
[11:33] <kmon> I have a custom cursor and everything is fine here
[11:34] <kmon> I'm using amd64
[11:34] <Tonio_> kmon: okay
[11:34] <Tonio_> I will reinstall a clean system to be sure........... my one is probably too much customed
[11:34] <kmon> FYI I've started a wiki page to track kubuntu.org glitches
[11:34] <Tonio_> kmon: great
[11:34] <kmon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuUnofficialPackages
[11:35] <nixternal> excellent
[11:35] <kmon> so feel free to add your bugs until Riddell is fed up :)
[11:36] <Tonio_> kmon: yes, but I wanna track bugs on a clean system :)
[11:36] <kmon> sure
[11:36] <nixternal> heh..i thought i was the only one with amarok 1.4 splash screen issue..i asked the past couple of days and everyone was said they had no problem
[11:36] <Tonio_> but concerning the tray, that's unfortunatelly not a bug, unless it is supposed to still be on two lines but doesn't work
[11:36] <kmon> have you guys thought about how are you going to provided updated packages to dapper?
[11:36] <Tonio_> we should ask to kde people if that's vonluntary removed or not
[11:37] <kmon> officialy or unofficialy
[11:38] <kmon> Tonio_: could you ask kde and if it's a bug add it to the wiki page?
[11:38] <Tonio_> kmon: yes
[11:38] <kmon> I don't know any kde dev
[11:38] <kmon> hehe
[11:39] <kmon> you could ask aseigo, since he's the kicker maintainer, and a kubuntu fan
[11:39] <kmon> I've seen him in #kubuntu
[11:39] <Tonio_> kmon: thanks for the info
[11:40] <kmon> no problem
[11:40] <kmon> thanks for your work on dapper ;)
[11:41] <apachelogger> kmon: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125210
[11:41] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 125210 in general "amaroK doesn't apply the show splashscreen setting from a kiosk config" [Minor,New]
[11:41] <apachelogger> btw ;-)
[11:41] <kmon> thanks apachelogger
[11:41] <apachelogger> np
[11:41] <kmon> I'm linking the bug in the page
[11:44] <kmon> apachelogger: you're from the kubuntu.de crew, aren't you?
[11:44] <apachelogger> yep
[11:44] <kmon> I was thinking the other day it would be nice to integrate your packages with kubuntu.org ones
[11:45] <kmon> I wan't lastest kaffeine ;)
[11:45] <kmon> it would be nice for people running dapper
[11:45] <kmon> since it's going to be long supported
[11:45] <apachelogger> well, one can add the repo anyway ;-)
[11:46] <kmon> sure
[11:46] <apachelogger> no need to have it at kubuntu.org
[11:46] <apachelogger> just a too big list of various packages in our repo
[11:46] <kmon> but at least, provide a page with info about this repos
[11:46] <kmon> and how to include the gpg key, etc
[11:46] <kmon> not sure...
[11:46] <kmon> just an idea to make it easier
[11:46] <kmon> for users
[11:46] <apachelogger> yeah
[11:46] <kmon> (me :P)
[11:47] <apachelogger> I gonna talk to the repo master
[11:47] <kmon> I've adde the topic to the next agenda
[11:47] <kmon> let's see what Riddell and others think about it
[11:47] <apachelogger> kmon: http://www.czessi.net/apt.php?i18n=en
[11:47] <kmon> maybe he has other plans to keep us in the bleeding edge
[11:48] <apachelogger> or http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php?i18n=en
[11:49] <apachelogger> actually leads to same result ;-)
[11:49] <kmon> yeah
[11:49] <kmon> nice
[11:49] <kmon> are you an amarok devel?
[11:50] <apachelogger> not dev, though nearly everything else ;-)
[11:50] <kmon> hehe
[11:50] <kmon> I thought so after reading your lastest blog
[11:51] <kmon> it's sindicated in planet kubuntu de
[11:51] <kmon> and you write in english.... so
[11:51] <kmon> when I'm bored at work
[11:51] <kmon> I read blogs
[11:51] <apachelogger> ;-)
[11:51] <kmon> specially kde ones
[11:51] <kmon> jeje
[11:51] <kmon> hehe
[11:52] <nixternal> apachelogger: thx for the link to that bug...i followed #4 and now the disable splash works
[11:52] <pygi> apachelogger is a marketing people :)
[11:52] <pygi> at least from what I got from amarok organisation :)
[11:52] <apachelogger> pygi: and Senior Director of Interproject Coordination Activities
[11:53] <pygi> apachelogger, and that ;)
[11:53] <apachelogger> ah, and release dude ;-)
[11:53] <pygi> apachelogger, yes, yes, I know :)
[11:58] <pygi> apachelogger, so when is next release? ;)
[11:58] <apachelogger> 1.4.1 beta1 on 18th
[11:58] <apachelogger> 18th + 2weeks = 1.4.1
[11:59] <pygi> oki, what about 1.5?
[11:59] <apachelogger> no 1.5
[11:59] <pygi> ah, yes
[11:59] <pygi> 2.0?
[11:59] <apachelogger> hopefully same day as KDE 4.0
[11:59] <pygi> when would that be ? :)
[11:59] <pygi> (me is asking because of gst engine has to be done by then)
[12:00] <apachelogger> pygi: not my genre ;-)
[12:00] <pygi> apachelogger, hehe :)
[12:00] <pygi> thanks :)
[12:01] <nixternal> Tonio_: downloading kde 3.5.3 and upgrading now...we should know something in about the next 5 to 10 minutes
[12:01] <apachelogger> pygi: release month/year of 4.0 isn't set yet (official)
[12:02] <nixternal> i can't wait for that
[12:02] <nixternal> i just wish some of the people on kde-look would stop posting vista-like kde4 ideas
[12:03] <apachelogger> yeah :|
[12:04] <nixternal> linux isn't windows...thats my take...if im gonna be free os hippy, then i don't want to use something that looks like it came from m$ ;)
[12:04] <nixternal> i like kmenu 'K" w/ gears...no kbfx either ;)
[12:05] <nixternal> now if only the hardware was free...then there could be a happy hippy land


[06:58] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <Kivi> dholbach, hey o/
[08:10] <dholbach> hey Kivi
[08:11] <Kivi> dholbach, I love my ubuntu phone!
[08:11] <Kivi> :D
[08:12] <dholbach> Kivi, that's great to hear - same here :-D
[08:12] <dholbach> there's still a few things that need to be fixed, but I guess that's the same with all software ;-)
[09:10] <sturmflut2> popey: Ping
[09:24] <popey> sturmflut2: pong
[09:30] <sturmflut2> popey: I'm looking into the SIM Toolkit stuff, maybe something useful comes out of it.
[10:52] <Mirv> if there's a new "Property { name: "audioRole"; revision: 1; type: "AudioRole" }", what does the developer need to do in order to use this "revision 1" property?
[11:04] <Mirv> is it a problem if the component having ^ property has "exportMetaObjectRevisions: [0, 0]"?
[11:45] <sturmflut2> Does qmake support cross-compiling using a chroot? If yes, where could I find an example?
[11:48] <Kivi> dholbach, I want to fix the soduku app, so you can actually make notes in it
[11:48] <Kivi> too busy right now though :P
[12:03] <DanChapman> sturmflut2: I don't think cross compiling is possible out of the box, but you could take a look at the qtc_chroot_wrapper.py & qtc_chroot_qmake_legacy scripts in /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts. They may be of some use
[12:25] <dholbach> Kivi, nice :)
[13:14] <jgdx> nikwen, hey :)
[13:37] <nikwen> jgdx, Hey!
[13:37] <nikwen> I'm sorry, I didn't see your message earlier.
[15:32] <ogra_> hmm, does anyone know which Oxide matches the 15.04 framework ? is that 1.8 or 1.9
[16:31] <W2U> Hello World!   - not. I ment Monodevelop programmers: Is there anywhere a collection available on  C# projects for MonoDevelop @ Ubuntu?


[02:13] <Iphox> some1 can help??????
[02:14] <Iphox> pc froozed to i restarted it and got some error  :l  and now i finally got back in and cant write nothing on the HD
[02:14] <Iphox> the whole filesystem is like on read mode
[02:17] <Iphox> ....................
[04:45] <artistxe> I am just about through with xubuntu .
[04:46] <artistxe> it seems that I may as well have chosen gnome for my wm . it has loaded all the dependencies anyway
[04:52] <_Techie_> whats wrong with xfce4?
[05:01] <artistxe> uh. nothing wrong with xfce at all.
[05:02] <artistxe> _Techie_, it just does not support everything that I wish it would
[05:02] <_Techie_> such as?
[05:02] <artistxe> well. first of all . a launcher such as gnome-do
[05:03] <artistxe> alt-F2 does not seem to cut it for me.
[05:04] <_Techie_> fair enough
[05:04] <artistxe> also. there are quite a few gnome specific applications I like to use. thank jesus I do not use and kde krap
[05:05] <artistxe> thinking about going slackware direction. maybe even gentoo
[05:05] <_Techie_> gnome apps should work in xfce
[05:06] <artistxe> they do. using gnome dependencies
[05:06] <artistxe> which (can) slow things down
[05:08] <_Techie_> brb just gonna check the config of my BNC
[05:09] <__Techie__> odd, _Techie_ should be set as away
[05:38] <_Techie_> is there anyway to have the whole of my trackpad scroll when a button is held?
[08:40] <alyoko> good morning
[08:43] <alyoko> hello?
[08:47] <Balsaq> what gives
[08:49] <Balsaq> all those names to the right are really just a figment of yur imagination there alyoko they fix computers silently using transcendental meditation, old school!
[08:54] <alyoko> hahaha....... can they fix my POS?
[08:54] <alyoko> I'm lost.... in WAY over my head
[08:58] <alyoko> I've installed xubuntu on an old machine, now it hangs at a black screen asking for "ubuntu login" which i never made one
[09:02] <ablomen> alyoko, its the username and password you entered during instalation
[09:02] <ablomen> did the screen flicker a few times before showing you the black screen btw?
[09:04] <alyoko> im a noob, this is gonna take a while i'm sure
[09:05] <alyoko> it ran through a bunch of checks and shows [ ok ] then shows Ubuntu 9.04 tty1
[09:07] <alyoko> it seems like it dosent matter what i type in as it is looking for a "ubuntu login" which i never made one yet
[09:11] <ablomen> alyoko, there was a new username and password prompt while installing xubuntu, it doesnt let you leave it blank so you must have typed in something
[09:12] <alyoko> i'm sure your right however, i ONLY filled in one line for the name of the computer
[09:13] <ablomen> hmm then something went wrong with installing
[09:13] <feesh> what gives :|, I can't find xfce4-systray
[09:14] <ablomen> which cd image did you download? did you get a graphical user interface or was the installer blue and white and nothing graphical what so ever? (normal cd or alternate cd)
[09:14] <feesh> running 64bit xubuntu and everythings going fine cept I have no systray
[09:14] <alyoko> oh thats a good question
[09:15] <ablomen> and what are the specs on the computer (as in, defign old)
[09:16] <alyoko> its a dynabook from japan the specs are........
[09:19] <alyoko> hrmmmm intel celeron 650Mhrz
[09:19] <ablomen> how mutch ram?
[09:19] <alyoko> 64?
[09:20] <alyoko> 20Gb HD
[09:21] <ablomen> ok.. im not sure how good xubuntu is going to run (64mb is just very litle memmory) but to get it working download the alternate cd image
[09:21] <ablomen> the normal one requires at least something like 196mb or something like that
[09:22] <ablomen> thats where it might have gone wrong
[09:22] <alyoko> but now it wont let me access the cdrom
[09:22] <alyoko> how can i format over what i have now?
[09:24] <ablomen> alyoko, shut it down first, then while booting open the cd tray, and for the formatting, let the installer handle that, while installing you get the option "use whole disk" or somthing along those lines, should be fine
[09:24] <alyoko> ok
[09:27] <_Techie_> alley oop
[09:27] <alyoko> i have a live feed showing what is on the screen
[09:28] <_Techie_> "all those names to the right are really just a figment of yur imagination there alyoko they fix computers silently using transcendental meditation, old school!" very nice Balsaq
[09:32] <alyoko> yes i checked my download, it was the alternate xubuntu 9.04 i386
[09:33] <alyoko> its stuck at the login, i have no idea what to do?!?!?!
[09:35] <ablomen> alyoko, hmm there should be an option in the cd boot menu called "check cd integrity" or something like that, see if there went something wrong with the burning
[09:38] <alyoko> the cd is in and re-started
[09:38] <alyoko> it automatically boots from hard drive and ignores the cd rom
[09:39] <ablomen> it will take some time btw, so i suggest you watch a movie or something ;)
[09:39] <alyoko> oh i remember THAT part
[09:40] <alyoko> no change! dosent do anything different, i can show a live feed if that will help
[09:42] <alyoko> or at least format this so i can start over with a smaller one like Deli which is designed for 64MB ram systems
[09:43] <ablomen> alyoko, all linux installers should have an option to format the disk, dont have to wory about that
[09:45] <alyoko> but right now i can't access the CD-ROM, it spins but seems to be ignored
[09:47] <alyoko>  am i able to post a web site here or will it be blocked?
[09:49] <ablomen> sure, if its on the subject, go right ahead
[09:49] <alyoko> it just shows my computers screen
[09:49] <alyoko> http://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03
[09:53] <alyoko> when i re-start the computer wtih the cd in, it is ignored and boots from the DH
[09:56] <alyoko> so i just made a new image of deli, its supose to wrok with computers with 64MB of ram
[09:56] <alyoko> im gonna load it and see if anything happens
[10:00] <alyoko> at the "gurb" how can i format the HD?
[10:05] <ablomen> no grub is the bootloader
[10:05] <ablomen> booting from cd still didnt work
[10:08] <alyoko> no
[10:08] <alyoko> i think i jsut want to format and start over
[10:09] <alyoko> i dont know how
[10:59] <premorphos> my sound output is "lagging" afer i removed pulse and i cant figure out what i did wrong. any one got a clue on how i may fix it
[11:34] <tavoton> a alguien mas le ha dejado K.O. el xubuntu una actualizacion hoy mismo ?
[13:27] <nagyv> hi! I've just upgraded a laptop to Intrepid, but when the log-in screen comes in neither the keyboard, nor the mouse work. My only option is to switch to the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1, and reboot.
[14:05] <Pres-Gas> Good morrow, all.
[14:20] <Pres-Gas> Hey, likemindead
[14:22] <likemindead> Hello.
[14:35] <denmark> y0
[14:35] <denmark> ;-)
[16:52] <HorizonX> hm, my attempt to make a karmic guest vm in vmware workstation 6.5.3 has ended in catastrophic failure >_>;
[16:52] <HorizonX> I think xorg is having a stroke D:
[17:18] <hafksahfk> http://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=9576886
[17:42] <denmark> y0
[17:42] <denmark> :)
[17:42] <denmark> hello all
[17:42] <denmark> where i can find help in xubuntu os
[17:43] <Sysi> ask :)
[17:43] <genii> denmark: Right here.
[17:43] <Sysi> or google
[17:43] <genii> !ask
[17:46] <likemindead> denmark, www.ubuntuforums.org as well as https://help.ubuntu.com/ as well as many independent blogs, wikis, etc.
[17:47] <denmark> yup i know but in a chm file like ubuntu
[17:48] <denmark> :)
[17:48] <denmark> i cant find any help file in under  xubuntu ;
[17:49] <_Pete_> denmark: man -k <keyword>
[17:49] <_Pete_> might help
[17:50] <denmark> ok lemme see
[17:50] <denmark> :)
[17:50] <Sysi> there was button in bar but first thing i did was removing it
[17:50] <Sysi> in menu it is still
[17:51] <Sysi> hmm, i wonder if it's help in english
[17:54] <Pres-Gas> denmark, are you needing help with something specific?
[17:55] <denmark> @above i try it but the problem is simple my firefox not working thats why i can't see help in browser
[17:56] <denmark> yup i am downloading lynx tar balls
[17:56] <denmark> but the problem is this can i install it via give method
[17:56] <denmark> like ./configure
[17:56] <denmark> or sudo ./configure
[17:58] <Pres-Gas> denmark, well (x)ubuntu has lynx as a package that you can install with "sudo aptitude install lynx" http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=lynx
[17:58] <denmark> lol i didn't know that how to install from tarballs in ubuntu
[17:58] <denmark> in other distro i simply use ./congigure
[17:59] <denmark> typo:./configure
[17:59] <Pres-Gas> denmark, you will also need to at least install the "build-essentials" package.
[18:00] <denmark> build-essential it for install from tarballs !
[18:00] <likemindead> "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall" denmark
[18:00] <likemindead> Then make sure your dependencies are covered.
[18:00] <likemindead> Then go for it!
[18:01] <denmark> ok so from this i can install software via tarballs ?
[18:03] <Pres-Gas> denmark, yes...then you could do the "./configure; make; sudo make install" process
[18:03] <denmark> :D
[18:03] <denmark> superb
[18:03] <Pres-Gas> Indeed
[18:04] <denmark> i can also complie cpp programs :D
[18:04] <Pres-Gas> BUT, denmark, there already is a package provided...so you don't necessarily have to install from source
[18:04] <denmark> ok if i didn't get then i install from tarballs
[18:04] <Pres-Gas> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:05] <denmark> ok i bookmark this webpage :)
[18:05] <denmark> in future i get the packges from here
[18:05] <Pres-Gas> denmark, you can also issue "aptitude search blah" from the terminal
[18:05] <denmark> :)
[18:05] <denmark> thanks alot
[18:05] <denmark> awesome
[18:05] <Pres-Gas> It will list all packages available and even show if you have them installed already or not
[18:06] <Pres-Gas> We try our level best
[18:31] <denmark> yo
[18:31] <denmark> any body here ?
[18:31] <Sysi> no, irc just died
[18:31]  * genii sips
[18:32] <denmark> a simple question but a it most important
[18:32] <denmark> can installing crossover should harm my computer ?
[18:34] <denmark> installing windows software on linux can give me same problems like worms,virus and trojans ?
[18:34] <Sysi> not really
[18:35] <denmark> lol thats gr8
[18:35] <denmark> what how can u prove this ?
[18:36] <denmark> why not really mr.sysi
[18:37] <denmark> ;-)
[18:37] <Sysi> i've heard of that, but i wonder if theres definition avalable in english
[18:38] <Sysi> why btw not wine?
[18:38] <denmark> hmm hat is the differnce between wine and crossover >
[18:38] <denmark> i think both are same :)
[18:39] <Sysi> is crossover free?
[18:40] <denmark> no :(
[18:41] <denmark> but wine is free :)
[18:41] <denmark> so why ppl use crossover ?
[18:41] <denmark> why not they use wine ?
[18:41] <Sysi> if i remember right, crossover is based on some old wine
[18:41] <denmark> lol i dunno
[18:42] <Sysi> i don't know people using crossover
[18:42] <denmark> but i can't use wine :(
[18:42] <Sysi> but it's ready configured for some games
[18:42] <denmark> ok lemme download wine  and use it
[18:43] <Sysi> it's on repositories
[18:43] <Sysi> or use their own
[18:43] <denmark> but crossover is also awesome tool for win32 softares
[18:43] <denmark> sorry for typos
[18:44] <Sysi> i'm writing bably also, expecially for english
[18:44] <Sysi> not native speaker
[18:44] <denmark> thats gr8 me too :)
[18:44] <denmark> i love my native lang.
[18:45] <denmark> i express my self superbly in my native lang.
[18:45] <denmark> lol leave it
[18:45] <denmark> can u tell me why crossover ?
[18:45] <denmark> why crossover if there is wine ?
[18:46] <denmark> i can't figureout what is the main difference in both ?
[18:47] <Sysi> crossover is like old, but ready configured wine
[18:47] <Sysi> some games work well, others beter with winr after configuring
[18:48] <denmark> ok lemme download wine
[18:48] <denmark> is your official nick can u chat me tommorrow?
[18:49] <Sysi> yes
[18:49] <Sysi> but here are others also
[18:50] <Sysi> apt-get install wine, btw it's installing, not downloading
[18:50] <denmark> lol i am talking with you come tommorrow we will chat agian
[18:51] <Sysi> ok
[18:51] <denmark> :) thats gr8
[18:57] <likemindead> Hmm... the new Epiphany hates me. "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" right when I run epiphany-webkit. :-(
[19:20] <mhall119|work> is Xubuntu 9.10 going to use the new GDM?
[19:21] <Pres-Gas> likemindead, did the apport (bug report section) come up when it dumped core?
[19:21] <Pres-Gas> mhall119|work, yes it is
[19:22] <mhall119|work> how hard is that to customize?
[19:22] <mhall119|work> is there any way to support old-style themes?
[19:22] <Pres-Gas> mhall119|work, no old style themes....
[19:22] <mhall119|work> :(
[19:23] <likemindead> Negative, Pres-Gas.
[19:24] <Pres-Gas> likemindead, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:24] <mhall119|work> anyway, kudos to the Xubuntu team
[19:24] <mhall119|work> good distro
[19:55] <charding> Left clicking the Orange clock doesn't pop up my calendar anymore.. Anyone have a reason why?
[19:56] <cody-somerville> is it the orange clock or just the normal clock you have there?
[19:57] <charding> orange. Running 'orange -p' seems to have fixed it
[19:57] <charding> But, how can I add to the 'to-do' list?
[20:31] <Balsaq> i registered my nick, they sent me the email to finish it, i followed the instruction from the email, and when i di the instructions i get a message, "must log in 1st before registering nick"?
[20:32] <Balsaq> how do i log in in, have always came in here doing the same type of log in many times thru freenode?
[20:33] <likemindead> Identify via "/msg NickServ identify <password>" (but lose the quotes).
[20:37] <Balsaq> thanks likeminded all done
[20:38] <Balsaq> now when i come on here do i use your instuctions each time so iam officially logged in?
[21:12] <rudeb0y01> hello, i installed xubuntu on my eeepc 1000he, after i login in gdm, xfce takes about 30 secs to load, i have used xfce with other distros and its very very fast loading right after the login, is there something wrong with my setup? should i fix something? i have tweaked sessions and startup with no success
[21:58] <alyoko> sooooo lost, need help
[22:00] <alyoko> hello?
[22:02] <neozen> hi
[22:02] <neozen> doh
[22:02] <likemindead> :-\
[22:02] <neozen> missed him
[22:02] <likemindead> No patience...
[22:02] <neozen> must not have been that important
[22:04]  * neozen shrugs
[22:15] <alyoko> hello channel, need help. i'm a nubie and soooo lost!!
[22:16] <alyoko> ubuntu asks for a login and password but i never set one up, black screen no GUI
[22:16] <alyoko> how do i get it to boot from CDROM to erase and start over?
[22:20] <alyoko> have ubuntu on an OLDER laptop 650Mhz 64 ram and 20gb HD - stuck at login, never made a login or password
[22:20] <Sysi> not enough ram i guess
[22:21] <Sysi> i'm sorry but i need to go to bed, got to get up early
[22:22] <alyoko> how do i boot from CDROM
[22:28] <likemindead> alyoko, that is not enough RAM to run any graphical version of Ubuntu.
[22:30] <likemindead> See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:30] <likemindead> Buy more RAM. It's cheap. :-)
[22:31] <alyoko> oh no doubt it is but that still dosent help me in THIS situation
[22:32] <TheSheep> you can try pressing esc at boot and booting into recovery mode
[22:32] <TheSheep> then changing the password from there
[22:32] <likemindead> Are you sure it is installed to your hdd? I don't know how it could be without you entering a username and password.
[22:32] <alyoko> still in recovery mode runs the grub, stuck at the same screen
[22:32] <TheSheep> oh, so it failed to boot
[22:33] <alyoko> i have a live feed at blogtv to show where it is stuck
[22:33] <alyoko> im new to linux and need to format over this to try again
[22:33] <TheSheep> the best you can do with those specs is a text-only system anyways
[22:34] <TheSheep> at least with ubuntu
[22:34] <TheSheep> you may try puppylinux or damn small linux
[22:34] <TheSheep> they have lower requirements
[22:34] <alyoko> deli is designed for 64MB machines
[22:34] <TheSheep> what is deli?
[22:34] <alyoko> but im stuck, it wont read the CDROM to format the HD again
[22:35] <alyoko> deli is another distrib of linux
[22:36] <alyoko> for 32 - 64 ram machines i found but cant install as im stuck on the login for Xubuntu 9.04
[22:37] <alyoko> if i could boot from cdrom then DBAM could wipe the drive clean and start over
[22:38] <alyoko> http://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03 is my live feed of the screen where im stuck
[22:39] <alyoko> the machine is an OLD one from japan, it orginally had windows ME in japanese but was corrupted
[22:39] <alyoko> hard enough fixing Me .....but in japanese is a real REAL challange
[22:39] <TheSheep> alyoko: well, how did you originally booted a cd?
[22:39] <TheSheep> how did you boot
[22:40] <alyoko> first, formated the HD (20GB) then used Xubuntu 9.04 alternate cd (iso)
[22:41] <TheSheep> so it booted from cd just fine?
[22:41] <TheSheep> it should boot just the same now
[22:41] <TheSheep> make sure it's set to boot from cd in bios
[22:41] <alyoko> to start yes, now the grub??? goes to hd
[22:42] <TheSheep> well, set it to boot from cd first in bios
[22:42] <TheSheep> you should be able to get into bios setting by pressing del or f2 or something like that at boot
[22:42] <TheSheep> it should tell you
[22:44] <alyoko> thats a little hard to do too, the BIOS i believe is software, not flash
[22:44] <alyoko> toshiba dynabook, from japan
[22:44] <TheSheep> madness
[22:45] <alyoko> sheer madness
[22:45] <TheSheep> http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=84680
[22:46] <alyoko> yeah, been trying
[22:47]  * TheSheep wonders what language is that
[22:49] <alyoko> on that page....i thing it tagalog
[22:49] <alyoko> think
[22:49] <alyoko> philipino
[22:49] <TheSheep> cute
[22:50] <alyoko> all i get when i enter the bios is "check system. then press [F1] key"
[22:50] <alyoko> dosent seem like i can make changes
[22:51] <TheSheep> :/
[22:52] <TheSheep> and holding 'c' doesn't make it boot from cd?
[22:56] <alyoko> i dont have a terminal?
[23:02] <alyoko> http://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03 is my live feed of my STUCK ubuntu login, i never made a login
[23:10] <alyoko> help!
[23:10] <alyoko> stuck at the grub login .....never made a login or password
[23:13] <alyoko> stuck....need help!
[23:15] <likemindead> !ask | alyoko
[23:19] <alyoko> black screen asking for ubuntu login , never made a login, unable to access the CDrom to reformat
[23:20] <likemindead> All this is happening on a hdd install?
[23:20] <alyoko> older laptop 64MB ram, yes hd install
[23:21] <alyoko> installed from xubuntu 9.04 alterante iso
[23:21] <likemindead> Which Xubuntu or Ubuntu? Which version?
[23:21] <likemindead> Ah.
[23:21] <likemindead> What's the chipset?
[23:22] <alyoko> oh good question
[23:22] <alyoko> intel celeron 650MHz
[23:22] <alyoko> ??
[23:22] <likemindead> Graphics?
[23:22] <likemindead> Intel, ATI, ?
[23:23] <alyoko> unmmmm
[23:23] <alyoko> not sure
[23:23] <likemindead> I'd try booting a Damn Small Linux Live CD to troubleshoot, since you have so little RAM.
[23:24] <alyoko> Trident CyberBlade XP (AGP connection)
[23:24] <alyoko> i would like to try ANYTHING......stuck at this login, wont let me do anything else
[23:25] <alyoko> i have DSL but i cant install, the grub runs from the HD not the CDROM
[23:27] <alyoko> http://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03  <-----this is a live feed of the laptop, i cnat do anything but put in a login that i never made?
[23:28] <alyoko> i can edit commands before booting, can i tell it to boot from CD?
[23:29] <likemindead> That should be in your BIOS settings.
[23:30] <alyoko> bios is software on this machine i belive, not flash
[23:31] <alyoko> toshiba has a disk to access the bios when in windows, hehe.........
[23:31] <likemindead> !bios
[23:32] <likemindead> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS
[23:34] <_Techie_> alyoko- enter the BIOS menu and change the boot device to cdrom
[23:35] <_Techie_> alyoko- press DEL at boot, if that doesnt work it may be F2 or F10
[23:35] <likemindead> Or F1
[23:37] <alyoko> changing boot device order is a softwear app in windows
[23:37] <likemindead> No, it isn't.
[23:37] <likemindead> It has nothing to do with your operating system.
[23:38] <alyoko> i agree, on THIS machine, in japanese, it was
[23:38] <likemindead> Beyond me then...
[23:39] <alyoko> maybe if i pull the HD out, slave it on another computer, i can re-format it?


[01:57] <mamarley> RikMills: I guess you're probably already aware of this, but at some point systemsettings5 in 5.18.90 stopped working with "The desktop file $FILENAME could not be found." displayed for all the settings.
[06:45] <RikMills> mamarley: nor. not sure how that could happen
[10:09] <mamarley> RikMills: It doesn't display anything helpful if I launch it from Konsole and I did check to make sure that the files it referenced were installed.
[10:10] <RikMills> mamarley: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kcmutils/5.70.0-0ubuntu3
[10:10] <RikMills> I think that fixes it?
[10:10] <mamarley> It does, thanks!
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all


[00:19] <antivirtel> bb
[02:11] <cyphermox> there's been a build failure of network-manager on amd64 earlier today, I'm trying to understand what went wrong: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43575045/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.network-manager_0.8-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz -- my understanding so far is that it just failed because the dependencies were broken at that time for reasons other than NM's packaging, correct?
[02:22] <ScottK> cyphermox: That's correct.
[02:23] <cyphermox> awesome, thanks.
[02:23] <cyphermox> what should I do about making sure it builds now? upload a new version?
[02:24] <ScottK> cyphermox: No.  Ask a core-dev to retry it.
[02:24] <cyphermox> ok
[02:25] <ScottK> cyphermox: Hint: I'm a core-dev.
[02:25] <cyphermox> I figured ;) could you please  run the retry?
[02:26] <ScottK> Give me the url to the package page and I will.
[02:27] <cyphermox> ScottK, I assume you mean this: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.8-0ubuntu3/+build/1684395
[02:27] <ScottK> Yes. Thanks.
[02:28] <cyphermox> actually, it failed for more than just amd64, so it's not entirely true
[02:29] <cyphermox> also, a related package failed to build in the same way: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/0.8-0ubuntu2
[02:29] <ScottK> cyphermox: SInce it built on i386, the others are probably archive squew as well.
[02:29] <cyphermox> yup
[02:29] <cyphermox> (and -2 was building fine... the change was in depends/recommends)
[02:30] <ScottK> NM is retried on amd64.  It'll start soon, so let's see how it does.
[02:30] <cyphermox> sure
[02:31] <lifeless>  /win 110
[02:55] <cyphermox> ScottK, thanks for running the retry, it seems to have worked properly this time
[03:13] <cyphermox> ScottK, would you mind doing a retry for amd64 for network-manager-pptp? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp/0.8-0ubuntu2/+build/1684401
[03:13] <cyphermox> I believe the other archs could wait a bit longer without too much issues?
[03:34] <ScottK> cyphermox: Done.
[03:34] <ScottK> I'll give the others a try too.
[03:36] <ScottK> Done.
[03:39] <cyphermox> thanks a bunch
[03:54] <crimsun> GrueMaster: ok
[09:24]  * antivirtel is back (gone 00:05:11)
[10:17] <hunger_p> my lucid box freezes in gdm since the last update:-(
[14:20] <GNU\colossus> hi all
[14:20] <GNU\colossus> what's the reasoning behind changing /etc/event.d to /etc/init in 10.04? I can't find anything in the bugtracker.
[14:24] <persia> It's an upstream change.
[14:30] <GNU\colossus> persia: and what's Upstart's reason for doing that? what's so bad about /etc/event.d/, now that all distros using Upstart actually adopted that path? is /etc/init/ at least going to be mandatory?
[14:30] <persia> No idea, sorry.
[14:35] <joaopinto> GNU\colossus, the change is described on karmic's release notes, but not the rational
[14:36] <joaopinto> GNU\colossus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/KarmicUpstartPackagingPolicy
[14:41] <GNU\colossus> joaopinto: thanks for digging that up.
[17:29] <sistpoty> lamont: ghc6 made it on armel :)
[17:30] <sistpoty> lamont: can you easily generate a list of armel packages where the build failed? (we'll need to rebuild all haskell packages more or less in order of http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/haskell-installability/armel.png, and I'm starting to loose track on which ones I've given back already)
[17:33] <sistpoty> lamont: or do a mass give-back, in case the armel build-queue allows it?
[17:59] <ScottK> sistpoty: Just go to qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs and look.  You should get a pretty good list.
[18:02] <sistpoty> ScottK: is that list constantly updated? (I've given back 1/3 of haskell this afternoon already)
[18:04] <ScottK> sistpoty: I think /6 hours.  wgrant would know.  He can probably move it to more frequently on a temporary basis.
[18:04] <sistpoty> ScottK: thanks, that's very helpful, indeed :)
[18:57] <sistpoty> zul: any reason for the ltsp task at bug #522509 (can I mark that as fix released?)
[19:12] <directhex> where can i find the new logo font?
[19:21] <ari-tczew> please move packages from SRU proposed to updates bug 421684 and bug 262235
[19:31] <GrueMaster> crimsun: found the fix for bug 528524.  I had thought NCommander's patch had been pushed into main.  It has not.  I just reimaged with Beta 2, tested (fail), installed libspeex1 & libspeexdsp1 from ppa, works.
[19:35] <crimsun> GrueMaster: phew, I was going crazy eebugging that asm
[19:35] <crimsun> debugging, even. Anyhow, closing the pulse task. Thanks for confirming and testing!
[19:36] <GrueMaster> Better you than me.  My asm experience is x86 only, and predates P4.
[19:36] <GrueMaster> :P
[19:36] <GrueMaster> I'm retesting on dove now.
[19:37] <GrueMaster> Works on imx51 image.
[19:38] <crimsun> great, I'll apply the patch and push to lucid
[19:44] <apw> ogra_cmpc, was that kernel ok
[19:55] <apw> don't suppose there are any archive admins on duty at the weekend
[20:23] <GrueMaster> crimsun: This fix also works on dove image.  Good to go.  Thanks for your help.  If you are at UDS-M, remind me and I'll buy you a beer.
[20:24] <crimsun> GrueMaster: you're welcome, thanks much for your assistance with all the arm sound issues.
[20:25] <GrueMaster> I really should see about getting back into audio development again.  At least part time.
[21:41]  * abogani waves
[22:11] <slangasek> Keybuk: can you please confirm my analysis in bug #560175?
[22:46] <Keybuk> slangasek: partially correct I think
[23:22] <zul> sistpoty: no please go ahead
[23:22] <sistpoty> zul: thanks!


[00:04] <pleia2> tsimonq2: yes! we're writing summaries in the google doc http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[00:05] <tsimonq2> a'ight! I'm on it! :)
[00:08] <pleia2> thanks :)
[00:08] <pleia2> please add your name to the credits at the bottom too
[00:10] <pleia2> tsimonq2: we don't write summaries for upcoming LoCo events, I should remove the header from the google doc entirely because it's just a script we run before publishing to pull in a list
[00:11] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[00:11] <pleia2> tsimonq2: if there's a blog post or announcement for an event, we can link to that up in LoCo News
[00:14] <tsimonq2> got it :)
[00:44] <ahoneybun> pleia2: I saw it pulled in my blog post :)
[00:46] <pleia2> ahoneybun: if by "it" you mean PaulW2U, yes, he collected your post :)
[00:46] <ahoneybun> opps
[00:47] <ahoneybun> thanks PaulW2U
[01:06] <ahoneybun> I thought it was the script pleia2
[01:16] <jose> pleia2: you sure you don't want a couple days rest? I can make sure it goes out tomorrow
[05:33] <pleia2> jose: I can release, if you do have time to help with summaries, that would help a lot, otherwise I'll finish them up now
[05:57] <pleia2> 2 more summaries to go
[06:11] <pleia2> jose: want to take the 2nd one?
[06:12] <jose> writing that one :)
[06:15] <pleia2> \o/
[06:16] <pleia2> ahoneybun: yeah, we don't have automated tools for collecting blog/article links, just things like upcoming LoCo events and other stats we pull
[06:16] <pleia2> jose: all done?
[06:17] <jose> yeah, sorry for all the typo/correction game in there. Android Docs has been buggy today
[06:17] <pleia2> no worries
[06:17] <pleia2> thanks :)
[06:19] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue440
[06:21] <pleia2> ok, sent off to editors
[12:03] <Unit193> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-fr/3243-ubuntu-party-rouen-15.10/
[12:32] <jose> I'll update that link


[00:07] <soee_> where can i get kubunti logo in svg or png or some vector ?
[00:12] <valorie> looking...
[00:13] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork
[00:13] <valorie> thank you, JackWolfSkin_
[00:15] <soee_> thanks valorie
[00:45] <soee_> what are the most often social media used by kubuntu devs ?
[00:49] <valorie> G+ I suppose
[00:49]  * valorie tweets, blogs, g+ automatically from the blog
[00:49] <valorie> sometimes read /post on FB
[00:50] <valorie> all social media pales in comparison to IRC however
[00:50] <soee> ok so i implemented options to add: facebook, g+, twitter, flickr, pinterest
[00:54] <valorie> flickr is a good one, for sure
[00:54]  * valorie goes to make dinner
[09:39] <yofel> Shadeslayer Riddell apachelogger allee : you guys at the bsp yet?
[09:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:46] <lordievader> Riddell: Cool, great job :)
[09:46] <lordievader> Riddell: The image of 15.04 I take?
[11:47] <Riddell> lordievader: yeah
[11:48] <lordievader> Cool, cool :D
[11:56] <shadeslayer> yofel: ahaha
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ahaha
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ah
[11:57] <yofel> good morning ;)
[11:58] <shadeslayer> xD
[11:58] <shadeslayer> yofel: what time did all of you get here
[11:59] <yofel> well, I was here at half past 10, then stood 20 minutes before a closed door until someone figured out how to text aaron to tell them that we're stuck outside
[12:00] <shadeslayer> xD
[12:20] <yofel> sgclark: I think you have an outdated version of git-buildpackage-ppa as you're uploading packages without ppa suffix
[12:20] <yofel> please update your checkout of kubuntu-automation as me and harald did some rework on that script
[12:21] <shadeslayer> jesus
[12:21] <shadeslayer> 2 months ago I wrote shit ruby
[12:21] <yofel> *SIGH*
[12:21] <shadeslayer> can't even freaking read this shit
[12:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: ??
[12:21] <yofel> archive stop throwing hash sum mismatches at meeeeeeee!!llkdjldkjf
[12:21] <shadeslayer> xD
[12:21] <shadeslayer> use the apt cacher stuff
[12:21] <shadeslayer> on the board behind me
[12:27] <Riddell> ScottK: 1 month since utopic release today! how about that kubuntu-settings SRU for baloo?
[12:47] <shadeslayer> debfx: ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/utopic-backports/+bug/1394586
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[14:04] <soee> Riddell: ping
[14:11] <Riddell> hi soee
[14:11] <Riddell> BluesKaj_: did you see vivid images booted into plasma 5 yesterday?
[14:12] <ScottK> Riddell: What was the final TB decision (I don't remember)?
[14:12] <BluesKaj_> Riddell, I don't recall atm , let me check the laptop
[14:12] <Riddell> ScottK: on CFQ patch? same as tech board, fine to do but nobody is brave enough to do it
[14:13] <Riddell> sorry same as ~ubuntu-sru
[14:13] <soee> Riddell: what flag should i use for your profile ? :D
[14:13] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You need to test it installs and runs.
[14:13] <ScottK> All it needs is a basic smoke test.
[14:14] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  I'll do it, but probably not this morning.
[14:14]  * Riddell gives ScottK a bravery in sru award
[14:15] <ScottK> Wait until I actually did it.
[14:15]  * Riddell prepares the medals and certificates
[14:18] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: let me know if you put those group photos on your owncloud, I can spread them far and wide
[14:19] <BluesKaj_> Riddell, ok what am I looking for ?
[14:23]  * Riddell publishes http://jriddell.org/2014/11/23/junior-job-breeze-icon-theme-for-libreoffice/
[14:23] <Riddell> BluesKaj_: does the desktop start?
[14:25] <BluesKaj_> Riddell, yes, just fine as usual
[14:31] <Riddell> BluesKaj_: well it didn't do until yesterday!
[14:31] <Riddell> so this is a good thing
[14:34] <BluesKaj_> Riddell, I haven't any probs with plasma5 desktop loading, only with VD wallpapers and some some freezing which is fixed temporarily with alt-tab
[14:35] <Riddell> VD wallpapers?
[14:35] <BluesKaj_> virtual desktop
[14:36] <soee> BluesKaj_: or activities ?
[14:36] <BluesKaj_> prefer different wallpapers for each, but plasama 5 only allows one for all desktops
[14:36] <soee> i have such wallpaper freezing on Activities
[14:37] <BluesKaj_> soee, I don't use activities, no need
[14:57] <Riddell> markey_work: working on a sunday?
[14:58] <Riddell> says me doing just that
[14:58] <markey_work> this is my irccloud account :)
[14:58] <markey_work> which I normally use at work
[14:59] <markey_work> now that I got a new PC I haven't got around to installing my usual client
[16:03] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the're already there
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: please ask anyone else who has photos to upload them there
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin> so that everyone can get them
[16:08] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: URL/
[16:08] <Riddell> ?
[16:09] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: oh did you leave the troica?
[16:09] <Riddell> Țuică
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> Țuică, yes, I left it there
[16:09] <Riddell> how does it differ from Slivovitz? I keep wanting to call it Slivovitz
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the url is on both debian and kde event wiki pages
[16:11] <Riddell> gotcha
[16:17] <ovidiu-florin> now I have to write a blog post =, right?
[16:17] <ovidiu-florin> does it have to be in english?
[16:17] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ooh yes that would be good
[16:17] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: google translate is your friend :)
[16:18] <JackWolfSkin_> s/friend/foe
[16:19] <ovidiu-florin> I can write it in english directly
[16:19] <ovidiu-florin> but I didn't want to write it multilingual
[16:24] <ovidiu-florin> JackWolfSkin_: What's with the nick?
[16:27] <JackWolfSkin_> long story
[16:27] <ovidiu-florin> long story short?
[16:27] <JackWolfSkin_> blue systems made me
[16:28] <shadeslayer> sgclark: f0225d20 (Scarlett Clark 2014-11-19 16:11:18 -0800  7) +export PATH=$PATH:usr/games
[16:28] <shadeslayer> that's wrong
[16:28] <shadeslayer> both because it's not a right fix and even the workaround is wrong
[16:29] <JackWolfSkin_> also we are doing peer reviews
[16:29] <JackWolfSkin_> there shouldn't be patches that have not been signed off by at least one other person TBH
[16:29] <JackWolfSkin_> also 99% of the time that other person should be upstream
[17:10] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: Riddell http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/test.html
[17:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: document your stuff
[17:13] <Riddell> I do!
[17:15] <JackWolfSkin_> clearly not!
[17:21] <JackWolfSkin_> hello faust
[17:21] <faust> hello JackWolfSkin_
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> who maintains The KDE Community profile on Google+?
[17:28] <JackWolfSkin_> hello BluesKaj
[17:28] <JackWolfSkin_> ovidiu-florin: the kde community
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> Can the kde community add me to it's circles, so I can tag myself?
[17:29] <JackWolfSkin_> ovidiu-florin: #kde-devel would help I guess
[17:30] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I think I do
[17:30] <Riddell> although I really don't understand g+
[17:31] <JackWolfSkin_> one does not simply understand g_
[17:31] <JackWolfSkin_> or g+ for that matter
[17:34] <ovidiu-florin> you don't understand G+
[17:34] <ovidiu-florin> G+ understands you
[17:40] <shadeslayer> JackWolfSkin_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/test.html
[17:42] <sitter> you know, I think in germany one should pronnounce names german
[17:42] <sitter> for consistency's sake
[17:42] <sitter> like jonathan
[17:42] <sitter> Riddell: you haven't blogged in a while
[17:44] <Riddell> sitter: it's because I forgot to tag my previous post
[17:44] <Riddell> thanks
[17:44] <sitter> oh my
[18:08] <shadeslayer> guys
[18:08] <shadeslayer> guiiiisss
[18:08] <shadeslayer> http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/patch.html
[18:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kcoreaddons.git/tree/debian/patches/disable-failing-test.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable
[18:08] <shadeslayer> dep3 that shite
[18:08] <shadeslayer> and that shite http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kdesignerplugin.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_qtwebkit-5.1.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable
[18:09] <shadeslayer> and properly dep 3 this shite http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_kf5-version.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable
[18:09] <shadeslayer> the format is broken
[18:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> http://blog.geekaliens.com/2014/11/awesome-bsp-in-munchen/
[18:14] <Riddell> whee
[18:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: is your blog on planets kde and ubuntu?
[18:15] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: doesn't seem to be, want me to add it?
[18:20] <yofel> shadeslayer: hm, does the patch parser currently take the Forwarded field into account? (I think that's what tosky was talking about). I only payed attention to the filename
[18:20] <shadeslayer> nope
[18:20] <yofel> maybe sensible so nobody just puts "no" there without getting gears thrown after him ^^
[18:45] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: sure
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_kf5-version.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable
[18:46] <yofel> o.O
[19:09] <ovidiu-florin> Plane got delayed, yeeeeey
[19:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: added to planets but still needs a hackergotchi
[19:14]  * Riddell out
[19:16] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I gave you one last time we did this
[20:16] <soee> im reading on a ovidu blog: Meanwhile, I’ve been assigned to work on a new framework for the search functionality that will change the way KDE users search for their content.
[20:17] <soee> baloo isnt framework just some widget that uses other stuff to search ?
[20:20] <soee> valorie: ping
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:04] <BluesKaj> the above error just happened during an update attempt
[21:04] <BluesKaj> gotta go
[22:18] <yofel> home sweet home :)
[22:20] <soee> hey yofel
[22:21] <yofel> hey
[22:21] <soee> yofel: i have visualised a bit the profiles i wanted to put on my page, check at teh bottom http://kubuntu.dev.soee.pl/
[22:21] <soee> so you will know what i was talking about 2 days ago :)
[22:22] <soee> thats why i was skign if devs would agree and allow to use their photos
[22:29] <yofel> right... looks kinda nice. What's the plan for the list? Random selection of people on page load? Or just a couple selected devs that agree to be on there? (As all of ~kubuntu-dev won't scale..)
[22:31] <soee> yofel: iv seen 11 on teh launchpad listed
[22:32] <yofel> oh true
[22:33] <soee> if there would be more ill switch to only photo + name and some additional info in popup window on hover, but that is the future
[22:33] <ScottK> Also at least a couple aren't active at all.
[22:35] <ScottK> Speaking of not active, soee: Richard Johnson and Michael Casedeval are both USians.
[22:35] <soee> ScottK: that will be set all later, this is only sample
[22:36] <soee> ill wait for a designer to finish project, than all content will be filled
[22:37] <soee> thers now way on launchpad to set status to inactive for them ?
[22:39] <yofel> they *do* regularily extend their membership, so it's not  like they don't care about it at all..
[22:39] <yofel> otherwise they would auto-expire
[22:39] <soee> ah ok ;)
[22:40] <soee> but maybe on this website i woork on, it would be a good idea to only put active people
[22:40] <soee> so it will be some impuls for other
[22:44] <Riddell> win 58
[22:44] <Riddell> hmm
[23:14] <valorie> soee: pong
[23:16] <soee> valorie: would you be interested at the begining of the next year to help me a bit with filling content the website i woks on ? i need someone with pro english :)
[23:20] <valorie> certainly