[00:27] <sectech> If someone reports a bug in another language should it be invalidated with a note stating to repost in english?
[00:28] <bdmurray> I'd prefer it wasn't but rather that it was incompleted and asked for in English
[00:28] <bdmurray> Do you know what language it is?
[00:28] <sectech> bdmurray,  French... I'll make the request and set it to incomplete
[00:29] <bdmurray> We've a few french speakers I know of
[00:29] <greg-g> online translate tool to get the gist of it?
[00:29] <Pici> #ubuntu-fr for example...
[00:30] <hggdh> sectech, what is the bug #?
[00:30] <sectech> greg-g,  I was thinking for consistency sake though...
[00:30] <sectech> Bug #239589
[00:31] <sectech> I'll leave it for a french triager then :P
[00:32] <sectech> never ran into that before, just thought I would ask
[00:33] <bdmurray> I don't want to discourage bug reporters but at the same time English happens to be the most commonly used by Ubuntu developers
[00:33] <greg-g> yeah, I remember one I had that was pretty straight forward (not a bug actually, an install problem that was fixed with a apt-get --reconfigure -a) that I "triaged" using google translate.
[00:33] <hggdh> sectech, the reporter states he cannot write DVD-R, CD Creator says only DVD+R are supported, although it works under Windows XP
[00:34] <sectech> that's an interesting one...
[00:34] <hggdh> the installed udftools, via Synaptic, but no change even after reboot
[00:35] <sectech> hggdh, At the same time it's a crash report from apport
[00:35] <sectech> labelled as a crash at that...
[00:35] <hggdh> then (and this is cool) he says he will love to learn programming languages, but he refused to learn 35+ different languages, etc
[00:35] <sectech> lol
[00:36] <hggdh> sectech, indeed. He is complaining about CD Creator (I do not know which program is it), but the crash is from serpentine
[00:36] <sectech> you know..... I don't think I am going to touch that one lol.
[00:36] <sectech> I usually will take on anything, as generic as they might be... but that one, I think I will leave alone
[00:37] <bdmurray> the exclamation point count is a bit high too
[00:37] <hggdh> sectech, add a comment stating the official language is English, and that this report will either have to wait for a French speaker to touch it, or please rephrase in English
[00:37] <sectech> hggdh,  Okay... that I can do
[00:38] <hggdh> bdmurray, this is partially cultural. Exclamation points are used for emphasis. But, even then it is a bit excessive
[00:39] <bdmurray> Okay, I was mostly joking though. ;)
[00:43] <hggdh> huh, and question marks...
[00:43] <hggdh> lotsa them
[00:43] <hggdh> no problems... I am not European, but my wife is... and she loves them !!!
[00:43] <hggdh> and ???
[00:44] <hggdh> sectech, do you wan tme to update the bug?
[00:44] <sectech> hggdh,  I am trying to word it right... give me a sec
[00:45] <hggdh> sectech, no hurry. I am in a hotel, and ready to get out for dinner...
[00:45] <hggdh> (and hearing the Who meanwhile :-)
[00:45] <sectech> There
[00:45] <sectech> okay I updated...
[00:46] <sectech> does that sound polite?
[00:47] <hggdh> yes, it does. thank you
[00:47] <hggdh> bdmurray, shouldn't apport coredumps get processed?
[00:47] <sectech> When your dealing with the world and different languages it's totally different then in Canada where we just have to deal with Quebec people (and they have to deal with us)
[00:47] <sectech> I didn't want to offend anyone :P
[00:48] <sectech> We offend Quebec all the time though, there used to it :P
[00:48] <hggdh> and quebecois have no option but to return the love ;-)
[00:49] <sectech> hahhaha and we're used to it right back
[00:49] <bdmurray> hggdh: yes, there seems to be something wrong there
[00:49] <bdmurray> it is also not private which is odd
[00:49] <hggdh> yes, and no apport activity is logged
[00:49] <hggdh> I will put is as private to start because of the core
[00:50] <hggdh> done
[00:50] <bdmurray> I've seen some reporters remove the needs-i386-retrace tag before
[00:50] <bdmurray> which doesn't help matters
[00:50] <hggdh> indeed, but there is nothing logged suggesting it was one of us
[00:50] <bdmurray> tag changes do not get logged
[00:51] <hggdh> ah.
[00:51] <hggdh> sigh
[00:51] <hggdh> they should...
[00:51] <sectech> I didn't change any tags.
[00:51] <hggdh> :-)
[00:51] <bdmurray> the mailing list has tag addition / removal information
[00:51] <hggdh> I will look there
[00:53] <hggdh> bdmurray, which archive now carries the lists?
[00:54] <bdmurray> hggdh: are you looking for a web interface or an mbox?
[00:54] <hggdh> web interface
[00:54] <bdmurray> gmane
[00:56] <hggdh> who updates the lists.ubuntu.com pages? We should update the location of the archives...
[00:56] <bdmurray> I did I thought
[00:57] <hggdh> ubuntu-bugs is still pointing to the old ubuntu archive
[00:57] <bdmurray> above it I put info about where the mboxes are though
[00:58] <bdmurray> I didn't see a way in the mailman interface to modify the second part
[00:58] <hggdh> ah, OK
[00:58] <bdmurray> I'm happy to do it though
[00:59] <hggdh> I have no hope of downloading 80 MB with the crappy hotel connection I have, sorry.
[01:00] <sectech> hggdh, does it at least have a hot tub?
[01:00] <hggdh> no, not even a hot tub. Chicago was packed full, and I could only find space in a Hampton Inn. Not really fun.
[01:01] <bdmurray> wow, 80MB already
[01:01] <hggdh> :-)
[01:01] <hggdh> the price of success
[01:01] <bdmurray> oh, its the 13th too
[01:01] <bdmurray> I think I lost some days
[01:02] <hggdh> oh, so it is *only* 80M...
[01:02] <bdmurray> I'll try and look into it but I don't think it'll reveal much
[01:03] <hggdh> I agree. I looked at gmane, but it is too early to get any mails for this bug
[01:04] <hggdh> the tag would be need-amd64-retrace, correct? I will add it in
[01:05] <bdmurray> If the tags were removed w/in five minutes of the reporting time nothing will show up in the mailing list
[01:05] <hggdh> still, why would anyone do it?
[01:05] <hggdh> and reset the private flag (this would be logged, right?)
[01:05] <bdmurray> when I've seen it people were adding tags to their report and removed the existing ones
[01:06] <bdmurray> again unless the reporter did it themselves it'd be logged
[01:06] <hggdh> if this is a once-only, then we will have to accept the reporter did it
[01:07]  * ffm repokes bdmurray re bugcontrol
[01:08] <bdmurray> hrm, actually the fact that you made it private hggdh doesn't show up in the log - that would be good to report as a launchpad bug
[01:08] <hggdh> this is starting to frighten me ;-)
[01:09] <hggdh> bdmurray, you open it, or I do?
[01:09] <bdmurray> hggdh: whatever is most convenient for you
[01:10] <bdmurray> I'd like to subscribe to it though
[01:14] <hggdh> bdmurray, I give up. How I do report a bug against LP?
[01:14] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+filebug
[01:15] <hggdh> sigh...
[01:20] <hggdh> ok, https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/239605 opened
[01:36] <bdmurray> hggdh|food: it was initally reported as a public bug and with only the apport-crash tag
[01:52] <hggdh> bdmurray, how can that happen on an apport bug?
[02:12] <bdmurray> well, if something is wonky w/ apport or they changed their bug report when they were reporting it
[02:13] <bdmurray> the release is really interesting too
[08:24] <ruiboon> asac: hi alexander. re bug 238876,i am not sure about your comment that it is non-english
[08:25] <asac> ruiboon: might be a glitch. feel free to reopen
[08:25] <asac> maybe i just saw "Inmediatly" and thought it wasnt english
[08:25] <ruiboon> i see, going to open it...
[08:25] <asac> but most likely i read a non-english bug and accidentially slipped down to next bug mail when replying
[08:26] <jegHegy> greetings.
[08:26] <jegHegy> i'm looking for Sebastien Bacher. does he come here?
[08:26] <ruiboon> i guess that is the case, as the subject line seems to imply that
[08:27] <jegHegy> ah, seb128 :)
[08:27] <seb128> hi jegHegy
[08:32] <seb128> re
[08:32] <jegHegy> welcome back
[09:21] <mattik> Is it confirmed bug, that if I download by firefox something to desktop in kubuntu-kde4 I cannot see it
[09:22] <mattik> on desktop
[09:23] <mattik> I don't know where is this desktop what I see
[09:23] <Nightrose> mattik: yes
[09:24] <Nightrose> mattik: which version of kde 4?
[09:24] <mattik> hardy newest
[09:24] <Nightrose> and no it is not really a bug - it is kind of intentional
[09:24] <Nightrose> emmm hardy newest can mean a lot depending on which repostories you are using ;-)
[09:24] <Nightrose> i assum 4.1 beta 1 then
[09:25] <mattik> 4.03
[09:25] <Nightrose> ok
[09:25] <mattik> Where can I get 4.1
[09:25] <Nightrose> then right click on the desktop
[09:25] <Nightrose> go to settings
[09:25] <Nightrose> and check the box that says "show icons on desktop" or something
[09:26] <Nightrose> for 4.1 see kubuntu.org
[09:26] <mattik> it is marked
[09:26] <mattik> show icons
[09:26] <Nightrose> in 4.1 you should add the folder view applet to the desktop
[09:27] <Nightrose> hmmm then you have to verify that it is really downloading to the desktop
[09:27] <Nightrose> open dolphin and go to the desktop folder
[09:27] <Nightrose> it is in your home directory
[09:27] <mattik> Nihghtrose: it is in Työpöytä. Finnish
[09:29] <Nightrose> hmm i see - let me check something
[09:32] <mattik> I had these problems before this when I use fglrx
[09:34] <mattik> Sometimes it didb't want to change desktop image and in beta desktop is full white
[09:35] <Nightrose> hmmm ok so firefox does download your files right? where to? ~/Desktop or ~/Työpöytä?
[09:36] <mattik> Työpöytä
[09:36] <mattik> ~/Työpöytä
[09:42] <mattik> Nightrose: Do I report a bug?
[09:43] <Nightrose> mattik: ok can you please check ~/.config/.user-dirs.dirs
[09:43] <Nightrose> and see what the desktop entry says?
[09:43] <Nightrose> sorry i was busy with something else for a second
[09:44] <mattik> XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Työpöytä"
[09:45] <mattik> I have used gdm some time when kdm didn't work with fglrx
[09:46] <Nightrose> should not make a difference
[09:46] <Nightrose> let me look for a bugreport - looks like plasma is not respecting that entry
[09:49] <mattik> I haven't enabled desktop effects just now
[09:50] <Nightrose> can't find a bugreport
[09:50] <Nightrose> desktop effects should make no difference
[09:52] <Nightrose> you can file a bugreport and see if someone can verify it
[09:52] <Nightrose> please mention all the stuff i asked you
[09:53] <mattik> Ok. Thank you :)
[09:54] <Nightrose> no problem :)
[09:54] <Nightrose> -> breakfast
[13:54] <qense> hello
[13:55] <bimberi> hi qense
[13:55] <pedro_> hey qense
[13:56] <qense> how's the LP interface today? ;)
[13:57] <pedro_> qense: it seems that the changes were reverted :-P
[13:57] <qense> OK, that's good :)
[13:58] <qense> I found the links cluttering the page a bit when they were in the body
[14:01] <Iulian> Hello guys
[14:02] <pedro_> hi Iulian
[14:02] <pedro_> morning cgregan
[14:02] <cgregan> morning pedro_!
[14:27] <sectech> I have a status question... A bug that I am triaging has been fixed in a future version (as per an upstream bug report), does the status go to fix released or still confirmed?
[14:29] <gnomefreak> sectech: that would depend on  what was done. does it meet SRU?
[14:29] <james_w> sectech: if it's just upstream then probably triaged, or confirmed if you don't have access.
[14:30] <sectech> It was a pidgin bug that is suppose to be fixed in 2.5.0
[14:30] <james_w> sectech: fix committed/released for Ubuntu tasks just refer to packages being available.
[14:30] <pedro_> sectech: if the bug is fixed upstream, but still not on an ubuntu package, that's fix-committed
[14:30] <sectech> pidgin is an ubuntu package though...
[14:31] <sectech> wait
[14:31] <gnomefreak> that wont most likely be put into stable release unless its confirmed that all changes were security releated changes
[14:31] <seb128> pedro_: seems that only the desktop team is doing that so maybe don't encourage other people to do that ;-)
[14:31] <sectech> no it's not...
[14:31] <gnomefreak> sectech: yes it is
[14:31] <sectech> sorry...confused today
[14:31] <pedro_> seb128: because we're cool? :-P
[14:31] <gnomefreak> seepidgin has been in repos since the name change from gaim
[14:31] <sectech> gnomefreak,  your right, my ba
[14:31] <sectech> d
[14:32] <sectech> I'll leave it as confirmed then...
[14:32] <seb128> pedro_: no, because fix commited should not be used for that but only when the fix is commited to a packaging bzr or similar, but it makes work easier so we abuse it for desktop tasks ;-)
[14:33] <seb128> pedro_: that's not to recommend though or launchpad people will be angry ;-)
[14:34] <pedro_> seb128: i thought that's the idea ;-)
[14:34] <seb128> lol
[14:57] <bddebian> Boo
[14:59] <mdz> wow, two hug days in three days
[14:59] <jjesse> don't cry
[14:59] <mdz> don't your arms get tired?
[15:00] <ogra> thats what we have bddebian for, he wakes up people once a day with a loud Boo :)
[15:01] <bddebian> :)
[15:09] <tiberio> hi, What about the 91151 bug, "gksu doesn't always pop up a dialog".
[15:22] <mvo> tiberio: that should be fixed in hardy-updates with the latest libgksu2-0
[15:23] <mvo> tiberio: do you still see it ?
[15:30] <tiberio> mvo: yes. Using -d param to gksu. I got the error message "No password prompt found"
[15:31] <mvo> tiberio: could you please give me the output of "COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l libgksu2-0" and "gksu -d id" ?
[15:31] <tiberio> sure, wait a moment please.
[15:32] <tiberio> mvo, "installed" -> ii  libgksu2-0               2.0.5-1ubuntu5.1
[15:33] <mvo> the gksu -d output is probably long, put it to paste.ubuntu.com or sent it by mail to me please
[15:37] <tiberio> mvo: I paste the command output on paste.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <wolfger> bug 173310 seems more like "needs-development" than "needs packaging", but I am reluctant to remove somebody else's tag.
[15:38] <mvo> tiberio: please give me the url (with the paste number)
[15:38] <jcastro> qense: I love you brainstorm idea.
[15:38] <qense> thanks jcastro :)
[15:38] <tiberio> mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19893/
[15:38] <qense> I think that currently teams are too scattered around the wiki
[15:38] <qense> that should be changed
[15:39] <qense> and that idea is one way of doing it
[15:39] <jcastro> qense: I like the idea of using the lp teams for that
[15:39] <qense> where else should you get the team information from?
[15:39] <mvo> tiberio: thanks, this output looks ok, I assume it did not hang this time?
[15:39] <mvo> tiberio: "id" printed the right values
[15:39] <qense> I mean, if someone had to manually convert all wiki and LP information to a new database...
[15:39] <jcastro> qense: I think just getting it from lp is fine
[15:39] <mvo> tiberio: does it only hang sometimes?
[15:39] <qense> (it was rhetorical! :P)
[15:40] <jcastro> oh oh
[15:40] <jcastro> heh
[15:41] <Hobbsee> mvo: responded to your bug with another bug, btw.
[15:41] <tiberio> It hangs all time
[15:41] <Hobbsee> mvo: re g-a-i
[15:41] <mvo> Hobbsee: what bugnumber?
[15:41] <Hobbsee> mvo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/197237
[15:42]  * mvo reads
[15:42] <mvo> when you got that empty window thing, did you install apps or codecs?
[15:43] <Hobbsee> mvo: it tried to, but apt was locked.
[15:43] <jcastro> qense: dholbach thinks you should run this idea by persia, he might be interested
[15:43] <qense> OK, nice to hear :) where is persia usually?
[15:44] <mvo> Hobbsee: aha, no other message, just the retry thing? its kind of intentional, but it should tell that it was not able to lock the cache
[15:44] <Hobbsee> mvo: ie, it gives the "apt is locked, please close down any other isntallers" dialog, then gives the empty window (which looks exactly like when you install things with g-a-i normally, except there was nothing in the middle space)
[15:44] <qense> ah! long live /whois
[15:44] <Hobbsee> mvo: oh it did.  it's more the problem of being asked to retry something blank.
[15:44] <qense> he's even here!
[15:44] <Hobbsee> mvo: ie, why even show the blank part, why not just show a retry dialogue?
[15:46] <tiberio> mvo: Well, What can I do to execute some administrative commands?
[15:46] <mvo> tiberio: gksu synaptic should work, no?
[15:47] <mvo> tiberio: the debug output indicates that it worked (at least this time) - if it does not always work, I would appreciate if you could run "sudo -k" (to force it to redo the password prompt) and run "gksu -d synaptic" (or "id") again and see if that then hangs
[15:47] <mvo> Hobbsee: yeah, that is a UI bug
[15:48] <tiberio> mvo: Dont works, a Minimized windows showing "Starting adminis.." messsage is the efect.
[15:48] <mvo> tiberio: what does the gksu -d output show this time?
[15:50] <tiberio> mvo:brute force GNOME_SUDO_PASS, no password prompt found; we'll assume we don't need a password.
[15:51] <mvo> tiberio: nothing before or after? this happend after you ran "sudo -k" ?
[15:52] <tiberio> mvo: It hangs
[15:54] <mvo> tiberio: could you please ctrl-c it and run the same command again? does it hang then too (i.e. does it hang aways or only sometimes)? could you please also run it with "gksu -d" again and paste the exact output that gksu prints into paste.ubuntu.com please?
[16:04] <tiberio> mvo: I try run gedit as "gksu -d gedit" and this hang again.The output is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/19898/
[16:06] <mvo> tiberio: I see, let me prepare a test version in my PPA - just to confirm, you do not see this hangs all the time, but you see them a lot, correct?
[16:08] <mvo> Hobbsee: could you please test the following patch for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/19901/
[16:08] <sectech> Bug #231975 I am not sure about, it looks like it could be a pulseaudio problem (in terms of it locking the sound card)... Anyone have any opinions?
[16:08] <tiberio> mvo: Well, gksu <administrative command> hangs all the time.
[16:09] <Hobbsee> mvo: can you email that to me?  i'll need to test with a vm or so, and i'm about to head to bed.
[16:09]  * Hobbsee has installed the codecs on that system now
[16:09] <mvo> tiberio: the output you showed me earlier in the pastebin for "gksu id" did work, this is why I'm confused
[16:16] <tiberio> mvo: uhmmm yes, you have reason, but in this moment the command hangs
[16:17] <mvo> tiberio: ok, thanks. I'm trying to gather some data to understand better what is going on
[16:17] <mvo> tiberio: could you please run (in a terminal): time hostname ?
[16:17] <mvo> "time hostname"
[16:25] <tiberio> mvo: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/19903/ is the output
[16:27] <tiberio> mvo: When I replied "yes" to some question to don't enter my password again, this trouble happened
[16:29] <tiberio> mvo: I remember that this question appears when I try update video codecs.
[16:33] <mvo> Hobbsee: no worries, I think I have found it now
[16:34] <Hobbsee> mvo: \o/
[16:34]  * Hobbsee hugs mvo
[16:56] <CarlFK> i run pidgin, it crashes, dmesg shows pidgin[19990]: segfault, but I don't get the Apport crash report icon
[16:59] <bdmurray> CarlFK: apport is disabled for releases after they are final - like Hardy
[16:59] <CarlFK> ah.  thanks
[17:00] <james_w> CarlFK: you can enable it in /etc/default/apport if you like.
[17:02] <CarlFK> james_w: thansk - will do
[17:03] <Notscape> Hi, does anybody here overcome the problem afecting dapper/6.06 regarding bug PR28045 (gcc optimization bug) ? dapper server should be supported up to 2011 and gcc is a vital part !
[17:06] <CarlFK> "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"  where is the dump?
[17:08] <Notscape> Hi, does anybody here overcome the problem afecting dapper/6.06 regarding bug PR28045 (gcc optimization bug) ? dapper server should be supported up to 2011 and gcc is a vital part !
[17:09] <CarlFK> NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia - think I should disable this and try again?
[17:09] <CarlFK> here is my report bug #239797
[17:34] <bdmurray> calc: I notice you've been adding 'upstream' to openoffice.org bug titles.  I think using a tag too would be helpful so they could be filtered on.  Does that work for you?
[17:41] <blan> it is possible that the glibc function getpwnam() has a memory leak?
[17:42] <blan> mtrace and valgrid found memory leaks after using getpwnam
[17:43] <CarlFK> how can I tell if I am using nv or nvidia?
[17:46] <bdmurray> CarlFK: you should be able to find out via /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:54] <CarlFK> bdmurray: thanks:  Device "nv"
[17:54] <CarlFK> hmm, that isn't 'it'...
[17:58] <CarlFK> here we go: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so
[18:00] <CarlFK> I am using apport to report the same bug, just without the binary driver - launchpad page says "Is the bug you’re reporting one of these?   (o) #239797 - "Subscribe to this bug report"
[18:01] <CarlFK> if I pick that, will it still attach all the log files?
[18:02] <bdmurray> No, it will not.
[18:02] <greg-g> no, it won't,  you will just be subscribed to the other one
[18:05] <CarlFK> thansk.  i'll create a 12nd and makeit a dupe
[18:15] <calc> bdmurray: yea
[18:16] <calc> bdmurray: it appears some of the openoffice graphs are screwed up and have 0 byte sizes
[18:16] <calc> eg http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/openoffice.org/plots/openoffice.org-month-total.png
[18:17] <bdmurray> thanks, I'll look into it
[18:17] <calc> bdmurray: part of the reason i have been using the title tagging is to see what is already upstream in the bug list
[18:18] <calc> i would prefer if that kind of stuff showed up as an icon or something, like mentoring does now
[18:19] <calc> mentoring available causes a red/white cross to show up in the long list
[18:19] <bdmurray> hmm, that would be a neat launchpad feature
[18:20] <calc> lp already knows if a bug is marked as upstream
[18:21] <calc> so it could just display an icon similarly to how it does the mentoring one now
[18:21] <greg-g> bug report it! ;)
[18:21] <bdmurray> right, like mentoring or milestoned bugs
[18:21] <calc> yea
[18:23] <CarlFK> how come I am not getting the crash report blip?  (which I got 2 or 3 times now, but wanted to reboot so that things were 'clean') - here is Starting apport, Segmentation fault (core dumped)  'log' http://dpaste.com/56484/
[18:40] <rfwest> hi, was just wondering what I could do to get a bug triaged. I confirmed and added a patch for it back on May 13th.
[18:40] <bdmurray> rfwest: what bug is that?
[18:41] <rfwest> bdmurray: 214399
[18:41] <bdmurray> bug 214399
[18:42] <rfwest> It is keeping me from suggesting an upgrade to 8.04 to my co-workers
[18:55] <bdmurray> calc: is there a reason some upstream bugs are Confirmed as opposed to Triaged?
[18:55] <mohbana_> is there an bug in firefox regarding rendering of .gifs or images in general, i noticed that once i upgraded things got blurry?
[19:03] <calc> bdmurray: yea there are several hundred and i am currently marking them as triaged
[19:03] <calc> bdmurray: before today none were marked as triaged
[19:04] <calc> bdmurray: jcastro brought it to my attention that they should be marked as triaged instead of confirmed according to current way of doing things
[19:04] <bdmurray> calc: I could whip a script together to do that I imagine
[19:04] <bdmurray> whip up
[19:04] <bdmurray> rather than doing it manually
[19:04] <calc> well i am going through and making sure they are all really done
[19:05] <bdmurray> okay, cool
[19:05] <calc> i found some that i had to change back to other status to reinvestigate
[19:10] <CarlFK> apport has a checkbox like 'ignore this from now on' - I am guessing I accidentally checked it - where can I see what is being ignored?
[19:14] <CarlFK> *grumble*  /etc/apport/blacklist.d/apport just /usr/bin/wine-preloader
[19:20] <mohbana_> is there an bug in firefox regarding rendering of .gifs or images in general, i noticed that once i upgraded things got blurry?
[19:21] <james_w> mohbana_: check you are zoomed at 100% on the page
[19:22] <mohbana_> ok thanks, but how would i increase the font size then without going into options?
[19:23] <CarlFK> mohbana_: "zoom text only' I am guessing
[19:24] <CarlFK> mohbana_: im not happy with the whole zoomy thing
[19:25] <CarlFK> mohbana_: woa.  i just fiugred out how that works - "zoom text only" is a setting, it doesn't zoom.  you set it, then use zoom.
[19:26] <CarlFK> i guess I am a little happier...
[19:26] <mohbana_> pretty obvious .. no?
[19:26] <mohbana_> f2 used to zoom the text only i believe
[19:34] <CarlFK> my bug is tagged need-i386-retrace - how do I provide that ?
[19:39] <bdmurray> CarlFK: that will be done by the apport retracing service
[19:45] <CarlFK> bdmurray: does that mean something will scan the coredump that was posted? (or something similar, such that I don't have to do anything)
[19:46] <bdmurray> CarlFK: that is correct
[19:46] <CarlFK> and any idea why apport isn't coming up again now that I disabled nvidia binaires ?
[20:10] <sectech> Can someone wishlist bug #239714 please?
[20:23] <sectech> bdmurray,  I'll have to message you when I get home later this evening (a couple hours)... I gotta run out for a bit
[20:53]  * calc thinks bugs status should not be changeable by the submitter
[20:53] <calc> i've already had to remark a bug as triaged because someone thought confirmed is better than triaged, duh
[21:47] <ffm> Would an issue I'm having with the gnome-panel's
[21:47] <ffm> (oops
[22:07] <dupondje> ogasawara here ?
[22:07] <dupondje> or 'Collin King' ?
[22:14] <bdmurray> dupondje: ogasawara is on vacation
[22:14] <dupondje> ah oki
[22:14] <dupondje> :)
[22:14] <dupondje> and Collin King is sometimes around here or not ?
[22:15] <bdmurray> he's in the uk so it's a bit late there
[22:15] <dupondje> his nick here ? :)
[22:15] <Nafallo> 22:15
[22:17] <dupondje> he made some patch for my problem
[22:17] <dupondje> but it aint fixxed
[22:17] <dupondje> my patch works better :P
[22:17] <bdmurray> the bug is probably the best forum for communicating that
[22:17] <dupondje> I did :)
[22:18] <dupondje> aka https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235889
[22:18] <dupondje> :P
[22:22] <sectech> bdmurray, do you have some time?
[22:22] <bdmurray> sectech: just about wrapping one thing up
[22:22] <sectech> k
[22:23] <sectech> brb
[22:31] <dupondje> looks like Colin forgot to add the patch lol :(
[22:33] <ryanakca> !ask