[08:57] <help_me_boot> StrangeNoises: could you please tell me more,  How can I retrieve my data from my NTFS partition? should I be able to navigate to it by /dev/sda2
[08:57] <minimec> buu: Is the connection stable, once established?
[08:57] <Serus> help_me_boot: do you just want to access the data?
[08:58] <Rory> Serus: Do you have the Nvidia driver installed from the Additional Drivers tool?
[08:58] <buu> minimec: Sure
[08:58] <help_me_boot> Serus: I wish to copy my data from that NTFS partition to an ext HD and wipe my HD and start fresh. I just really need the data
[08:58] <Serus> Rory: yes
[08:58] <StrangeNoises> help_me_boot, because if you just want to backup *data*, just mount it in linux on the live cd and copy the files somewhere safe
[08:59] <Rory> Serus: What version, do you know? I think it says in the Additional Driver tool
[08:59] <Serus> help_me_boot: why? to get past EFI?
[08:59] <buu> minimec: And for some reason it can't see 2.4ghz networks ...
[08:59] <StrangeNoises> all my talk of dd is to preserve the whole partition intact while you repartition the drive. but that's complicated
[08:59] <Serus> Rory: 319 from the top of my head.
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> StrangeNoises, Serus his HS is unallocated from breaking the partition table.
[08:59] <s_faraday> hi guys
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> HD*
[09:00] <StrangeNoises> so it's already lost?
[09:00] <Serus> wilee-nilee: can you even mount correctly then?
[09:00] <help_me_boot> Serus: because I can no longer boot, Not sure my skills are up to re-building the partition table
[09:00] <s_faraday> how can I install boost library at ubuntu?
[09:00] <StrangeNoises> i don't know. i don't dual-boot to windows
[09:00] <help_me_boot> StrangeNoises: Sorry, could you please provide some steps for that?
[09:00] <Rory> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot Testdisk may get you that partition back.
[09:01] <Serus> help_me_boot: There are drive recovery tools available.
[09:01] <Serus> brb rebooting into ubuntu.
[09:01] <StrangeNoises> help_me_boot, i don't know enough about windows at that level. i just gave generic linux-based idea for backing up a whole partition, but the partition already has to exist in the partition table; if it doesn't... i'm out of ideas
[09:01] <Rory> Serano: Can you try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" in a terminal?
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Make sure people that want to help know you are unallocated.
[09:03] <s_faraday> Rory: I downloaded the source file, how can I install it manualy?
[09:03] <Rory> s_faraday: Why do you want to? It is in the repositories which will save you many headaches
[09:04] <Rory> s_faraday: There will be instructions in the downloaded packages, perhaps called INSTALL or README, if you want to install from source
[09:04] <Serus> And I'm back
[09:04] <BlackDalek> will someone please tell me how to install this http://people.via.ecp.fr/~remi/soft/gimp/gimp_plugin_en.php3 ? I am getting this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369406/
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, If you have a bootinfo recovery before this happened with exact partition sizes you can fix with that, or testdisk is commonly used.  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk and the photrec portion for images.
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> sorry bootinfo summary help_me_boot
[09:06] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: unfortunately not
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Testdisk may do it just fine, you have not messed with that partition right?
[09:06] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: Can I not somehow manually mount the partition from the live cd and drag/drop files to ext HD?
[09:07] <yeyeman> I have a 200gb partition which, if I set auto mount on startup, will make an error on the purple ubuntu loading screen
[09:07] <yeyeman> what may be the reason?
[09:07] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: no messing with the partition
[09:07] <yeyeman> its no problem accessing it after I'm logged in
[09:07] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Not if it shows as unallocated as far as I know.
[09:07] <Serus> Rory, using version 319 of nvidia drivers
[09:08] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, testdisk is for this sort of situation though, it finds the partitions.
[09:08] <ObrienDave> yeyeman what is the error?
[09:09] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: I downloaded it but not sure how to run it
[09:09] <yeyeman> ObrienDave: its something about 'failed to mount press S to skip' etc
[09:09] <MiteshShah> Is there a any wayt to display pv style progressbar when install package via apt-get install <package_name>
[09:10] <Danato> has anybody seen this error? "Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages."
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, follow the testdisk wiki its pretty straight forward. here is the one I think to start with, a link from the page I sent you originally. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[09:10] <Serus> Please help me with my graphics issues, I get errors when watching video.
[09:10] <MiteshShah> How to display progress bar when installating software from apt-get like yum style
[09:11] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: Thanks! I'll have a read
[09:13] <Danato> wicd? Anyone?
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, I think you are in okay shape here, just go slowly.
[09:13] <BlackDalek> will someone please tell me how to install this http://people.via.ecp.fr/~remi/soft/gimp/gimp_plugin_en.php3 ? I am getting this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369406/
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> Danato, So If I can ask why wicd?
[09:14] <paperke67> I have an Atheros Wireless Network Adapter (AR5212/AR5213), that I cann't get to work. This is the output of some statements : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363869/
[09:15] <Danato> wilee-nilee: im trying to connect to a network and it doesnt work, so id like to give it a try with wicd
[09:15] <buu> BlackDalek: It appears busted.
[09:15] <Serus> Help please, I have the Asus K95VM-yv007z and I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I have video problems.
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> Danato, you tried with samba? I suspect this is just a problem fixable without wicd, niether of which I'm real up on, but this is a rather unusual effort.
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, YOU checked the ubuntu repos for this plugin?
[09:17] <Danato> wilee-nilee: Im guessing samba is a network manager too? ill give it a try then
[09:17] <ObrienDave> yeyeman oh, I get that a lot. I don't worry about that error. seems to be some kind of timing error
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I believe so many use it for connection with windows.
[09:19] <BlackDalek> wilee-nilee, can't find it
[09:19] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, has to be installed.
[09:19] <Serus> Help please, I have the Asus K95VM-yv007z and I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I have video problems.
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, sorry I was not remembering your issue
[09:20] <Rory> Serus: Did you install nvidia-current?
[09:20] <BlackDalek> wilee-nilee, I am trying to install the script-fu descreen plugin in GIMP, this first requires the FFT fast fourier transform plugin to be installed.. my pastebin is giving an error at the make command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369406/
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, I find this see if it is relevant. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1923716
[09:23] <Serus> Rory, You mean the latest drivers?
[09:23] <Rory> Serus: What happens when you run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" ?
[09:24] <Serus> downloading it
[09:24] <StrangeNoises> Serus, by running *that* command?
[09:24] <StrangeNoises> do that, don't go to nvidia site to download driver
[09:24] <StrangeNoises> (it can work too but is actually more complicated)
[09:26] <Serus> StrangeNoises, I didn't
[09:26] <Serus> I downloaded the drivers from the additional drivers thingy from system settings
[09:27] <Serus> Rory, Ok it's installed, what now?
[09:27] <StrangeNoises> install nvidia-current, delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf if anything from earlier attempts created it, and reboot. (you did reboot?)
[09:27] <Serus> ok I'll do that now
[09:28] <Serus> brb rebooting
[09:28] <StrangeNoises> hate to say it as i constitutionally prefer open source solutions but if you have nvidia graphics, 9/10 times installing nvidia-current and rebooting is the fix :-)
[09:28] <starnix> hello people
[09:29] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: This looks promising! I have to reboot now to test
[09:29] <StrangeNoises> that is a chunky laptop...
[09:29] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, cool
[09:34] <BlackDalek> wilee-nilee, that didn't help - I checked the Makefile as suggested in the thread, and the recommended change was already present.
[09:34] <Serus> Ok, I think something went wrong
[09:35] <Serus> It asked me if I wanted to go in low-graphics mode
[09:35] <Serus> and then I had to wait practically for ever
[09:35] <Serus> but luckily I can ctrl+alt+f1 and start the x server
[09:36] <Serus> anyway, now it doesn't see my graphics card anymore, what should I do now?
[09:38] <Serus> brb
[09:38] <Danato> wilee-nilee: Samba is not really what i was looking for, I'm trying to connect to a wifi network and not share files and stuff with windows
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, ah, not sure here, may take awhile to get an answer here if at all.
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> Danato, Do you have wifi at all?
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> with the network manager
[09:42] <Danato> wilee-nilee: yes, right now im using a network, but i wanna use another one, i can use it with windows but its not working with my ubuntu
[09:43] <StrangeNoises> Danato, that's odd then, as your hardware presumably works. have to ask: you *are* sure you typed the passphrase right?
[09:43] <wilee-nilee> Danato, Ah, well have you addressed that on the channel before the wicd attempt, really is my interest. I have used wicd years ago if the network manager just did not work is all.
[09:44] <StrangeNoises> yeah wicd used to be a solution when network manager fails us, but hopefully obsolete now
[09:44] <Danato> StrangeNoises: yes ive retyped it many times
[09:44] <Serus> Great
[09:45] <Serus> the display is 640*480
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I have had to clear the password out to get it to work on occasion.
[09:45] <StrangeNoises> Serus: make sure /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ~/.nv* are deleted; start from clean X config
[09:45] <Danato> wilee-nilee: making it work would be great but i dont know how to fix it, and yes im pretty sure about my password
[09:45] <Danato> wilee-nilee: in fact i have to use the very same password to login the network im using right now
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> Danato, right but you have a password there for another right?
[09:46] <Serus> StrangeNoises, ok /etc/X11/xorg.conf is deleted
[09:46] <wilee-nilee> Just saying that for a strange reason I have had to clear it to get it to work, makes no sense in general but worked.
[09:46] <Danato> wilee-nilee: another what?
[09:46] <Serus> and ~/.nv/ too
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> and ~/.nvidia-settings-rc too
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> probably isn't there, but make sure...
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> Danato, look at the times we type sometimes phrases folow each other but are not related.
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> then reboot
[09:47] <Serus> how does one show hidden folders again?
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> just do it in commandline in terminal
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Serus: ALT+H I believe
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> (so much easier)
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> :-)
[09:48] <Serus> I mean from command line
[09:48] <Serus> I tried ls -x
[09:48] <StrangeNoises> ls -a
[09:48] <Serus> ah
[09:48]  * StrangeNoises doesn't even know what ls -x does...
[09:48] <StrangeNoises> list entries by lines instead of columns
[09:48] <Danato> wilee-nilee: although ive done this before, ill try to reconnect to that network right now and test it again
[09:49] <wilee-nilee> Danato, try to clear out any auto password then try the log to the network, is my point.
[09:49] <StrangeNoises> Danato, could it be using a weird encryption system? (where "weird" == "not known to network manager")
[09:49] <Serus> .nvidia-settings-rc no such file or directory
[09:50] <StrangeNoises> right, reboot
[09:50] <Serus> OK
[09:56] <darkstream89> hi all
[09:56] <darkstream89> i need some help
[09:56] <darkstream89> if its possible
[09:58] <darkstream89> some one please?
[09:58] <Serus> why can't I talk?
[09:58] <StrangeNoises> darkstream89: ask the question
[09:58] <minimec> darkstream89: Well... it is not possible as long as you don't tell us, where your problem actually is...
[09:59] <Serus> oh I can now
[09:59] <Serus> StrangeNoises: bro
[09:59] <StrangeNoises> is it working?
[09:59] <Serus> StrangeNoises: good job, now I don't have a display at all :P
[09:59] <darkstream89> in new on ubuntu on linux and all and i need some help for the begining
[09:59] <Serus> StrangeNoises: nope
[09:59] <StrangeNoises> hm
[09:59] <StrangeNoises> how are you online now?
[09:59] <Serus> desktop
[10:00] <Rory> !details | darkstream89
[10:00] <darkstream89> im on ubuntu 13.10
[10:00] <StrangeNoises> serus. hmm. should just work
[10:00] <darkstream89> cant you come on private its easier for me please
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> darkstream89: no, not how it works
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> ask the damn question
[10:01] <Serus> StrangeNoises: that helps
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> serus: can you ssh into it?
[10:01] <darkstream89> ya sorry i never use irc
[10:01] <darkstream89> i never use linux
[10:01] <Serus> StrangeNoises: is it on by default?
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> no :-) i just tend to set that up first thing
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> ok, so you get nothing at all now. can you ctrl-alt-f1 and get to commandline?
[10:02] <minimec> darkstream89: Start with some 'sirst steps' tutorial... https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=ubuntu%20first%20steps&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=
[10:02] <Serus> I did that yes
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> ok, sudo apt-get install pastebinit ssh
[10:02] <darkstream89> i try but my english are not good
[10:02] <darkstream89> im french
[10:02] <Rory> darkstream89: You haven't actualy said what the problem is yet
[10:02] <darkstream89> ok one of my problem is
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> the first is a convenient pastebin utility, i'll ask you to paste something in a bit. the latter enables ssh server so you can log in remotely from your desktop, which will be more convenient while X isn't running
[10:03] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I can ssh into my pi, doesn't that mean ssh is already installed?
[10:03] <darkstream89> i try to instal desura
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> not interestedin your pi
[10:03] <darkstream89> but its dont work
[10:03] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I mean I can SSH from ubuntu to my pi
[10:03] <darkstream89> i get not loading image can be found
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> ssh *client* is installed by default, *server* isn't
[10:03] <darkstream89> something like this
[10:03] <minimec> darkstream89: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-desura-gaming-client-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[10:03] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I see
[10:04] <darkstream89> thanks i will look and i come back
[10:04] <EugenA> hi, we have PCs (windows) and I need to create centralized management of users which should be able to login on windows pc and have access to some shares
[10:04] <EugenA> what is the best way to do it?
[10:07] <cheesus> Does anyone here have experience with Ubuntu and dwm?
[10:07] <dmitry> Тут русские есть?
[10:08] <cheesus> nei, engelsk :<
[10:08] <Serus> StrangeNoises: Ok I'm in
[10:08] <StrangeNoises> installed pastebinit too?
[10:08] <Serus> yes
[10:08] <StrangeNoises> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:09] <StrangeNoises> and paste the url here
[10:09] <StrangeNoises> also, lsmod | grep nvidia
[10:09] <Serus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369634/
[10:09] <StrangeNoises> but that'll just produce one line of output (if we're lucky) so no need for pastebin
[10:09] <Serus> nvidia               9430169  0 drm                   287564  3 nvidia,i915,drm_kms_helper
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> cheesus: too basic for me, openbox all the way :)
[10:10] <StrangeNoises> apt-cache policy nvidia-current | pastebinit
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Serus: looks like you have dual GPUs (Intel and Nvidia), is taht right?
[10:11] <Serus> ActionParsnip: correct
[10:11] <StrangeNoises> ActionParsnip: i was wondering if that, but asus page on the laptop didn't say it had that
[10:11] <StrangeNoises> that could explain a lot!
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Serus: do you have bumblebee installed?
[10:11] <Serus> ActionParsnip: no
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Serus: you'll need it to get some sort of support for that mess
[10:11] <kaitrek> i have a problem, i'm running ZFS, with tank/data which is mounted to /data, but I just tried putting lots of files in /data and it all got stored onto /, not /data on the ZFS
[10:11] <kaitrek> why is /data being stored into / and not onto ZFS which is mounted on /data
[10:11] <Serus> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:12] <StrangeNoises> serus; sorry, i don't know anything about dual-gpu issues; this just went beyond me :-)
[10:12] <StrangeNoises> was looking for a more normal cause :-)
[10:12] <StrangeNoises> never tried installing linux on a machine that has that
[10:12] <Serus> StrangeNoises: Can I reset it back to install settings?
[10:13] <StrangeNoises> presumably that was unsatisfactory or you would have left it there
[10:13] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I atleast had the nividia driver working and I atleast had a display
[10:14] <StrangeNoises> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177733 looks useful, first thing is as ActionParsnip says, bumblebee, whatever that is. also, you might have more luck with a newer ubuntu
[10:14] <StrangeNoises> if you're on 12.04 now
[10:15] <troulouliou_dev> hi i want to download the cinnamon official source code; what m a doing wrong ? : apt-get source -t o=Ubuntu cinnamon
[10:15] <troulouliou_dev> E: Ignore unavailable target release 'o=Ubuntu' of package 'cinnamon'
[10:16] <Rory> troulouliou_dev: Does it work without the "-t o=Ubuntu" ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: cinnamon is in the repos now....
[10:17] <troulouliou_dev> Rory, yes but i have my pinning set on another ppa then the main repo for this package
[10:17] <StrangeNoises> serus: https://ananduvr.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/making-ubuntu-work-perfectly-on-asus-eeepc-1015pn/ probably also describes a fix to what you want; is also asus even though lower spec but good chance the same solution applies; but again, it boils down to using bumblebee
[10:17] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, yes but it download the ppa package by default
[10:18] <troulouliou_dev> i want to download the one from the main repos
[10:18] <Rory> troulouliou_dev: is the "Ubuntu" there case-sensitive? Try with o=ubuntu
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: only is you add the ppa
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: remove the ppa then....
[10:18] <Serus> StrangeNoises: But I need a screen for that first don't I?
[10:18] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, ?? i just want the source of the main package to make a diff
[10:19] <StrangeNoises> well, hmm, i should have said rename xorg.conf to something else instead of deleting it. i don't suppose you did. :-}
[10:19] <troulouliou_dev> Rory, in /var/lib/apt/lists/***Release ; the origin is Ubuntu
[10:19] <StrangeNoises> but you may not need a screen anyway; can probably do it all over ssh
[10:19] <Danato> im back
[10:19] <vijaya> I want to cross compile Arora browser for panda baord.
[10:19] <vijaya> I s there any can tell me
[10:20] <Danato> StrangeNoises: my network manager is freezing when i try to configure my network
[10:20] <troulouliou_dev> Rory, ha ok sources are not subject to pinning preferences ... got it
[10:20] <MarkDavis> Hi
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> vijaya: http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/source    may help
[10:20] <nicklas_> hello, if i install another de, like xfce or e, how can i make that start? i cant seem too find the session chooser at login screen
[10:21] <MarkDavis> I want to install windows, but I've already installed Ubuntu, can I restore the access to Ubuntu later?
[10:21] <Rory> !grub | MarkDavis the last link here
[10:21] <Rory> MarkDavis: Sorry the first one
[10:21] <MarkDavis> ok, thx
[10:21] <kaitrek> nvm looks like zfs wasn't mounted
[10:21] <MarkDavis> so that's not a problem
[10:21] <Guest36391> Hi. 12.04 LTS. How can I determine in a shell script what workspace number my video display is showing?  wmctrl didn't help
[10:21] <Serus> StrangeNoises: No I didn't, how do I get it back?
[10:21] <StrangeNoises> serus: maybe just try this over ssh: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bumblebee; reboot. but you'll have to do your own reading really; i don't have a system i can try this stuff on, and i should stop googling for you now ;-P
[10:21] <vijaya_> not it was not help full
[10:21] <kaitrek> instead dirs were created on top
[10:22] <Serus> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work
[10:22] <StrangeNoises> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[10:24] <dr_dissector> Hi all
[10:24] <dr_dissector> Has anybody tried Ubuntu phone yet?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !phone
[10:26] <StrangeNoises> in other words, "no"
[10:26] <StrangeNoises> ;-)
[10:26] <dr_dissector> thx
[10:29] <Serus> Well I got a login screen
[10:29] <Serus> but now when I log it immedeately returns to the login screen
[10:30] <StrangeNoises> serus: try deleting ~/.Xauthority. rings a bell, possibly not related to the whole dual-gpu stuff as i think i had that
[10:34] <Rory> Serus: Yes, deleting ~/.Xauthority will fix that login issue
[10:35] <george_> hey how do I get name
[10:36] <george_> guess I got one
[10:36] <DJones> george_: You'll need to be a bit more specific, what name are you after
[10:36] <george_> nickname
[10:37] <Danato> StrangeNoises: I found a possible solution for my wifi problem, but i might need some help with it
[10:37] <StrangeNoises> Danato: i may not be of use; i don't have a lot of wifi/linux experience
[10:37] <StrangeNoises> (my laptop is a mac)
[10:37] <DJones> george_: If its you're IRC nickname you're asking about, the best place to ask would be in #freenode thats the support channel for this IRC network
[10:37] <StrangeNoises> and my linux machines are all wired
[10:38] <Danato> StrangeNoises: shouldnt be much of a problem, its not a linux specific problem
[10:38] <george_> thanks
[10:38] <Serus> Yeah, I'm reinstalling
[10:38] <Danato> StrangeNoises: just take a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1168293
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Serus: try using gksudo with GUI apps rather tahn sudo, you wont screw up the  ~/.Xauthority file
[10:39] <StrangeNoises> Serus: maybe install 13.10 then, if you're going to that trouble
[10:39] <StrangeNoises> but also, what ActionParsnip said. (the commands i was saying use sudo for weren't gui)
[10:40] <Danato> StrangeNoises: the last post, its similar to mine but idk exactly what to modify
[10:40] <Serus> I didn't use sudo for GUI
[10:40] <StrangeNoises> Danato: i don't know this stuff at all :-)
[10:40] <Danato> StrangeNoises: ok, thanks anyways
[10:43] <lone> Can I update from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to Ubuntu 13.10?Pls
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> lone: you will need to upgrade to 13.04 first
[10:44] <StrangeNoises> do it one version at a time basically
[10:44] <DJones> lone: You need to go to 12.10, then 13.04 then 13.10 (from 12.04)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> lone: 13.10 isnt LTS, so only supported 9 months. 12.04 is LTS and supported til April 2017
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> lone: why are you wanting to upgrade?
[10:45] <lone> I'm facing some problems in 12.04 LTS
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> lone: what problems?
[10:46] <ALESSIOITALIA> Ciao a tutti
[10:46] <lone> My 12.04 now for days dont recognise my speakers?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> lone: ran this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369779/
[10:47] <lone> So I can't control volume level or anything related to sound.
[10:48] <FTA_96> hello
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> lone: have you sen that command?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> FTA_96: hi
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> *seen
[10:48] <lone> no
[10:49] <FTA_96> i have a question, i got ubuntu touch, how do i dock?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> lone: so you havent read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> lone: what have you been doing to fix sound if you havent seen that page!?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !touch|FTA_96,
[10:49] <lone> where to upload problem pic?
[10:49] <FTA_96> thx
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> lone: imageshack or similar
[10:58] <Danato> this network thing is biting my ass :/ after looking for a while i found that its a bug reported by some ppl already
[10:59] <ljunggren> what network thing
[10:59] <ljunggren> Danato,
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1242740
[11:01] <Serus> StrangeNoises: no offense, but I'm switching distros. I wanted to install linux mint at first, but seems mint debian (the distro I went with first) doesn't support EFI. So ubuntu was kind of a fallback, but seeing mint 15 works with EFI I'd rather use that. I'm more a fan of the cinnamon desktop. This has nothing to do with you, but seeing I need to reinstall anyway I rather go with I what I
[11:01] <Serus> wanted in the first place.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Danato: tried wicd instead of network manaer?
[11:02] <ljunggren> oh
[11:02] <Danato> been trying to get help to install it here for over 10 hours now but no luck
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Serus: remember, mint's support is separate from Ubuntu's
[11:03] <Danato> I actually installed wicd but i get an error when i install it
[11:03] <ljunggren> Danato, i tought it was something different because i got issues with cable internet today.. can't play games because of network issues and i don'ät use a router
[11:03] <Danato> sorry *when i try to run it
[11:04] <Serus> ActionParsnip: Ofcourse, but I'm just notifying him I'm switching. Since I brought the current install into a state where I need to reinstall anyway if I don't want to put too much effort in it.
[11:04] <Danato> ActionParsnip do you know a thing or two about wicd? maybe you could help me
[11:05] <vijaya_> is there any one can provide me for steps for compiling any web browser for panda baord
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Danato: in what way
[11:06] <Danato> just running it would be great, i keep getting an error when i try
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Danato: install wicd, uninstall network-manager* and reboot
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Danato: you dont need to 'run it' just like you don't 'run' network manager
[11:07] <Danato> ActionParsnip this error Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages. site:ubuntuforums.org
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Danato: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:08] <Danato> ActionParsnip: wait i reinstalled network manager, should i have wicd installed again for that?
[11:08] <Serus> StrangeNoises: Anyway, thanks for the help.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Danato: no the comamnd will run even if you have neither :)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Danato: do you connect to the web with a wired connection or wireless?
[11:09] <Danato> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Danato: do you connect to the web with a wired connection or wireless?
 wireless
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Danato: hmmm, which wifi chip?
[11:13] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  ok i forgot the command to check that
[11:13] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  im using a wifi network right now, but i wanna connect to another one, its not allowing me on ubuntu, i can connect with windows though
[11:14] <xyzwhatever> hi I freshly installed ubuntu 13.10,  and it keeps freezing for no reason or randomly when i try to click something like a text file.... then the mouse doesnt move anymore i can only hit the reset button....    how can I find a error log or anything I dont even know where to start?? ;(
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Danato: sudo lshw -C network
[11:15] <Zorky> Can anyone answer this question. I want to create a custom desktop for when i create a new user. i searched the web. and could only find that i need to put files into /etc/skel But what files do i need to put in there?
[11:16] <akis63> hi all. does anyone know why 'activity log manager' cannot record browsers activity?
[11:16] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  product: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[11:16] <Danato>        vendor: Qualcomm Atheros
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: those files will be put into every new user you make, so whatever you want. If you make a new user and setup the web browser, you can copy the browser config folder to /etc/skel and every new user will get that config folder
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: you may need to chown it to some other user but just use the other files etc as example
[11:19] <Zorky> so what file do i copy? everything inside the users folder in /home/user into /etc/skel/?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Danato: Zorky just the browser config folder if you only want to config browser, if you want to configure other apps, copy those to the same place in /etc/skel
[11:23] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  i wanna configure a wifi-network
[11:23] <sventon> hi all, I been following the tutorial at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but cant boot the USB
[11:23] <whitebyte> what does ls > dirlist 2>&1 mean ?
[11:24] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  thanks
[11:24] <akis63> does anyone know why 'activity log manager' cannot record browsers activity?
[11:24] <sventon> MD5 sums are the same on my usb image and the ubuntu .iso file
[11:24] <Rory> sventon: Do you get an error message when you try?
[11:25] <sventon> I get a pop up in OSX saying that the disk is not readable. I think that is normal ?
[11:26] <rajrajraj> where are program files stored in ubuntu?
[11:26] <Rory> rajrajraj: in /usr/bin
[11:27] <rajrajraj> Rory: those are just executable files
[11:27] <Rory> rajrajraj: What are you looking for?
[11:27] <rajrajraj> Rory: the whole package/software with files that i have installed
[11:27] <Rory> sventon: That's probably normal. When you reboot and select to boot from USB, what happens?
[11:27] <whitebyte> in ls > dirlist 2>&1  what does 2>&1 mean ?
[11:27] <Rory> rajrajraj: The executable is in /usr/bin. Configuration files usually go somewhere in /etc
[11:28] <xyzwhatever> weird, my new ubuntu crashes al lthe time.... i go to my android phone, it also crashes - it never crashed before - ubuntu infected it??
[11:28] <Rory> rajrajraj: What are you actually looking for?
[11:28] <sventon> Rory: The disk can't be found. I can only select the disk with OSX installed
[11:28] <sventon> no errors
[11:28] <Rory> sventon: What hardware do you have?
[11:28] <rajrajraj> Rory: i am looking for the header files used in NS2 which is installed in my ubuntu 12.10
[11:29] <Rory> rajrajraj: Header files are usually in /usr/include/
[11:29] <bekks> xyzwhatever: "crashes" is pretty uncertain. What is happening exactly?
[11:29] <rajrajraj> Rory: how would i know which ones are related to ns2
[11:30] <sventon> Rory:  MacBook 7,1  OSX 10.6.8
[11:31] <rajrajraj> Rory: you there?
[11:31] <Rory> sventon: From Apple's docs: If you're using a MacBook or MacBook Pro, try using a different USB port if you cannot startup from the external USB storage device
[11:31] <bstarek> hello all
[11:31] <cfhowlett> bstarek, greetings
[11:32] <Rory> rajrajraj: I don't know which were put there by ns2
[11:32] <rajrajraj> Rory: you there??
[11:32] <rajrajraj> Rory: what do you mean?
[11:32] <Rory> Patience is a virtue, young padawan
[11:33] <sventon> Rory: I only have two ports and I think I tried both, Is there no way to test the USB stick using a vm. I have virutualbox installed
[11:33] <sventon> ?
[11:33] <bstarek> I have a general about CUPS, this might not be the place.....but im still going to ask it: I have a PPD file corresponding to my epson printer, would i just need to link through CUPS for it to work? :)
[11:33] <bekks> sventon: There is. Create a vm, create a raw device mapping, boot the vm. Not that easy as you think.
[11:33] <Rory> sventon: It's odd that it doesn't even show in the list of devices to boot from; it would show even if there was nothing at all on the USB drive
[11:34] <CatKiller> bstarek: Try ##cups
[11:34] <CatKiller> Rory: Startup disks on a Mac only show if there is something to boot from
[11:34] <buu> AUGH. LINUX.
[11:35] <sventon> Rory: hmm , wait
[11:35] <zzzz> ciao
[11:35] <zzzz> !list
[11:35] <CatKiller> Rory: Making a bootable Ubuntu USB key on Mac OS X is hard. It rarely works. Better use one made with pendrivelinux or something that works better
[11:35] <bstarek> CatKiller: will do thanks
[11:35] <CatKiller> Rory: I've had lots of trouble just making this work (by dd'ing the iso to the key) while when the key is made with a proper bootloader on a MBR (not an iso) it works fine.
[11:36] <Rory> rajrajraj: This is a list of every file created by installing the "ns2" package http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369966/
[11:36] <sventon> Rory:  I will try to use both my USB ports then rebooting, hope you are here if I have to come back
[11:37] <Rory> sventon: Sadly I have little else to do
[11:37] <xyzwhatever> ok my stupid ubuntu 13.10 keeps freezing after a few minutes, first the screen is frozen, i can still move the mouse arrow but nothing responds neither does any keyboard comman, after a minute or so also the mouse is frozen,  only way is hard reset....... what can I do??
[11:37] <Rory> xyzwhatever: Is it a fresh installation?
[11:37] <xyzwhatever> yes
[11:37] <Rory> xyzwhatever: Does the issue occur when you log in as the Guest user from the login screen?
[11:37] <xyzwhatever> I dont know, why should that be different? i can try...
[11:38] <akis63> does anyone know why 'activity log manager' cannot record browsers activity?
[11:38] <vijaya_> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vijaya/screen/STB_VIKAS/openbricks_panda_new/build/build.pandaboard.eglibc/qt-4.7.4/config.tests/unix/mysql'
[11:38] <vijaya_> MySQL (thread-unsafe) disabled.
[11:38] <vijaya_> MySQL support cannot be enabled due to functionality tests!
[11:38] <vijaya_> i am not able to compile qt for pandabaord
[11:39] <bekks> vijaya_: Then you should contact the pandaboard support - or will the pandaboard run ubuntu?
[11:39] <samhi> hi
[11:39] <cfhowlett> samhi, greetings
[11:40] <xyzwhatever> Rory it also happens with guest user
[11:41] <xyzwhatever> maybe its faster if i install lubuntu and hope some bloatware thing of ubuntu is causing it...
[11:42] <Rory> xyzwhatever: Lubuntu or Xubuntu is often more appropriate for older hardware
[11:42] <xyzwhatever> well its a very new 8 core computer
[11:42] <cfhowlett> xyzwhatever, unlikely, but just in case .. the easy test is to install LXDE (lubuntu's window manager) into ubuntu.   Logout.  choose lxde session.  login.
[11:42] <ianmac1> I'll second that. xubuntu was quite ice the times I used it earlier this year
[11:43] <ianmac1> s/ice/nice/
[11:43] <rajrajraj> Rory: thanks but could you tell me how did you find tit
[11:43] <rajrajraj> Rory: thanks but could you tell me how did you find it*
[11:43] <xyzwhatever> oh cool how can I install lxle??
[11:43] <Rory> rajrajraj: I ran the command: dpkg-deb --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/ns2_2.35+dfsg-1_amd64.deb
[11:43] <Rory> xyzwhatever: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <mad_> Someone with a launchpad account could post to this bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+login?comments=all  and  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1028617  that the solution is:  http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/90w-UltraSlim-adapter-leads-to-unusable-jumpy-touchpad/m-p/436833#U436833  . I want to share the solution but do not w
[11:43] <mad_> register. Be nice and help the others by posting this link.
[11:43] <xyzwhatever> can I also get lxle instead of lxde?
[11:44] <bekks> xyzwhatever: whats "lxle"?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> xyzwhatever, of course
[11:44] <Rory> xyzwhatever: I'm not familiar with lxle
[11:44] <xyzwhatever> its more leightweight than lubuntu
[11:44] <rajrajraj> Rory: which does not work in mine, why ? :(
[11:44] <bekks> xyzwhatever: Which desktop environment is it using?
[11:44] <gordonjcp> xyzwhatever: you do need quite powerful hardware to run the standard Unity desktop - it's blazingly fast on my 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo with 1G of RAM, but much less than that and performance falls off rapidly
[11:44] <xyzwhatever> dunno
[11:44] <Rory> rajrajraj: Does that .deb file exist on your system?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> 8 core computer should run unity/ubuntu without hiccups
[11:45] <ikonia> the graphics card is more important than cpu
[11:45] <xyzwhatever> or maybe ubuntu didnt recognize the ssd
[11:45] <Rory> rajrajraj: /var/cache/apt/archives/ is where apt-get stores its downloaded packages. The actual deb file might be names differently on your system
[11:45] <rajrajraj> Rory:  i dont know if it does or not, all i know is i can run programms using ns prefix, that means ns is working
[11:45] <ianmac1> cfhowlett, I would think so. I'm running ubuntu 13.10 on a dual core celeron laptop
[11:45] <ianmac1> no probs here
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ianmac1, nice ...
[11:45] <Rory> rajrajraj: dpkg-deb --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/ns2 then hit [TAB] to complete the filename
[11:46] <Rory> rajrajraj: It won't be drastically different from the pastebin I gave you though
[11:46] <ianmac1> One thing I love about ubuntu.. it runs great on old hardware that other OS's won't even touch
[11:47] <rajrajraj> apt_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb apt-transport-https_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb apt-utils_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb gnupg_1.4.11-3ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb gpgv_1.4.11-3ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb libapt-inst1.5_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb libapt-pkg4.12_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb lock partial vim_2%3a7.3.547-4ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb vim-runtime_2%3a7.3.547-4ubuntu1.1_all.deb is the result of ls command in  /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:48] <Rory> rajrajraj: apt-get download ns2
[11:48] <Rory> rajrajraj: Then the .deb file will be placed in the current directory
[11:49] <Rory> rajrajraj: then you can run "dpkg-deb --contents" on it
[11:49] <rajrajraj> Rory: but then how am i able to run ns
[11:49] <Rory> rajrajraj: .deb files are just installer packages
[11:49] <rajrajraj> Rory: that means it is stored somewhere, like in windows we have "search" do we have it in here too'
[11:49] <Rory> rajrajraj: Once it's been installed you can delete them, you have probably run "sudo apt-get clean" which cleared out the cache
[11:50] <Rory> rajrajraj: I think this conversation is probably pointless, what is the actual goal you're trying to achieve overall?
[11:50] <rajrajraj> Rory: like in windows we have program files, what do we have in linux/ubuntu
[11:50] <rajrajraj> Rory: i need to manipulate the Agent.h file in NS2
[11:50] <bekks> rajrajraj: In linux we have a totally differeny hirarchy structure.
[11:51] <rajrajraj> bekks: i know but similar to program files we muct be having something, am i wrong
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> rajrajraj: the file sructure is made so that shared libs are only stored once and only loaded into RAM once
[11:51] <bekks> rajrajraj: You are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[11:51] <Zorky> Where is the file located in the users home folder. that controls the resolution?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> rajrajraj: binaries will live in /usr/bin amonst other places and libs will be in a few agreed places too but there is no single folder where each application is stored, its very wasteful
[11:52] <rajrajraj> ActionParsnip: ok fine could you just tell me where i can find header files related to NS2 , that is all i want
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> rajrajraj: what is NS2?
[11:53] <Rory> rajrajraj: If you want to change the source code before installing, you have to download the source, make your modifications, and then compile it
[11:53] <rajrajraj> ActionParsnip: it is a software "Network Simulator" version 2, i installed it using sudo apt-get install ns
[11:53] <Rory> rajrajraj: apt-get install will install just already-compiled binaries
[11:54] <xyzwhatever> Rory , no problem with lubuntu desktop so far.... I suspect it was something with the nvidia driver   and the transparency stuff of ubuntu
[11:54] <Rory> !yay | xyzwhatever
[11:54] <rajrajraj> Rory: i know that, but it does have header files like we have in c/c++
[11:54] <bekks> rajrajraj: Then you can look at the package contents.
[11:54] <Rory> rajrajraj: Yes but they are part of the source code used to compile the software
[11:54] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  You answered my question before. so maybe you can answer this. There is a file located in the users home folder. that controls the resolution that the user choosed for his user. do you know what file does this?
[11:54] <rajrajraj> ActionParsnip:  Rory its a programming languaage kind of thing
[11:55] <Rory> rajrajraj: So it's do do with the actual usage of ns2? I don't know anything about the program unfortunately so I can't help you use it
[11:55] <bekks> Rory: The package installs header files as well - thats not the same as "the source code".
[11:55] <Rory> bekks: This is a list of every file created by installing the "ns2" package http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369966/
[11:56] <rajrajraj> bekks: i have the source code too, there i can find the Agent.h , but then i shall have to re build the code, and that could be tedious job
[11:56] <rajrajraj> Rory:  do you know c/c++
[11:56] <Rory> rajrajraj: Not in-depth, it depends what you want to modify. #c will certainly be a more appropriate channel to ask about that than here
[11:56] <bekks> rajrajraj: If the package doesnt install the header files, you have to patch the package to do so.
[11:57] <Rory> rajrajraj: We can help you compile it as a package once you have made your changes, but as far as editing the code to make it do what you want goes, you're on your own :)
[11:58] <rajrajraj> Rory: where are the header files of gcc compiler stored in  ubuntu. that we include, for e.g. #include<stdio.h>
[11:58] <bekks> rajrajraj: You will not find your desired files there. Look at the content of your ns2 package please:
[11:58] <bekks> rajrajraj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/ns2/filelist
[11:58] <rajrajraj> bekks: it has installed the header file, all i do not know is where?
[11:59] <bekks> rajrajraj: It hasnt installed the header file, not at all.
[11:59] <Rory> rajrajraj: That link from bekks above shows every single file and folder that is created by installing the ns2 package
[11:59] <rajrajraj> bekks: how can you be so sure that header file does not exist in my pc,  but i can tell you that while making programs i have used Agent which is declared in Agent.h
[12:00] <bekks> rajrajraj: I am so sure because I looked at the content of the package, which I told you to do, too.
[12:00] <Rory> bekks: Yes but that's not created by ns2. You can find files by issuing "sudo updatedb" to update the indext and then "locate agent.h"
[12:00] <Rory> rajrajraj: ^
[12:00] <bekks> rajrajraj: If you manually created that file somewhere, thats your own job then.
[12:01] <bekks> rajrajraj: Whereever you created it, there you will find it.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: not sure tbh, i let udev do its thing, or use xorg.conf
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> !find ns2
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> !info ns2
[12:02] <rajrajraj> alright, thanks, i shall find out another way. thanks bekks , Rory , etc
[12:02] <Rory> good luck rajrajraj
[12:03] <rajrajraj> ty
[12:03] <bekks> rajrajraj: This is the list of files called "agent.h" installed by ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=agent.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any
[12:03] <illizian> Morning, would anyone be able to advise on how to install a specific version of PHP on my laptop? I need to install 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.2 as this is the version on my web server at the moment
[12:03] <bekks> rajrajraj: So you put that file somewhere where it was found by locate, but that had nothing to do with ubuntu packages.
[12:04] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  Hmm. my problem is. that each user gets the max resolution there is. so they can't click on anything. because the screen is centered im trying to set a default resolution for all users that is easy to change
[12:04] <bekks> illizian: So whats your webserver running, Ubuntu?
[12:04] <illizian> apologies - yes, it is
[12:04] <rajrajraj> bekks: you mean to say that none of them belong to ns2, and you are right. i am really running out of luck, by the way, how did you find all the Agent.h files
[12:04] <illizian> my laptop is technically Elementary which is based on 12.04
[12:04] <hangermeet_84f> (bsrdjwdzq3ch says) .
[12:05] <bekks> rajrajraj: I looked at the packages.ubuntu.com website.
[12:06] <illizian> bekks: The web server is running 12.04
[12:06] <rajrajraj> bekks: like in windows we have "search" for searching a particular file or folder, so do we have similar thing in ubuntu ?
[12:06] <bekks> illizian: Then ask the elementary support please, we dont support it in here. If you want the same packages, install Ubbuntu 12.04
[12:06] <bekks> rajrajraj: We have, the command is called "find".
[12:07] <rajrajraj> bekks: i find it very helpless, t always gives me no result or only the files and folders in current directory
[12:07] <photon> Is there any way I can install gcc 4.9 on 13.10 with backports?
[12:07] <bekks> rajrajraj: Then you are not using it correctly. It always finds everything I need.
[12:08] <rajrajraj> could you tell me the way i should use it
[12:08] <rajrajraj> plz
[12:08] <krizoek> hi. anyone here know of any gui firewall log analyzer that would interpret network activities?
[12:09] <Rory> rajrajraj: "find" on its own will list all the files in the current directory
[12:09] <bekks> rajrajraj: Say you want to search for "agent.h" or whatever it may be named (caps, mixed small letters and caps, etc), then you could use this: find / -type f -iname "agent.h"
[12:09] <bekks> Rory: Find does a lot more than just looking at the current directory.
[12:09] <Rory> rajrajraj: A standard syntax for finding files across the system would be "sudo find / -type f -name *.h" which would find all the files ending in .h for example
[12:09] <Rory> rajrajraj: "find" on its own will list all the files in the current directory and all subdirectories, recursively
[12:10] <bekks> Rory: sudo find is bad idea, since it isnt needed.
[12:10] <Rory> bekks: Is that true? If you run "find" it won't traverse directories it has no read access to because it can't, surely?
[12:10] <nibbler_> bekks: it is needed to descend into certain directories
[12:10] <illizian> bekks: ok thanks... I have asked in there :P
[12:10] <nibbler_> Rory: but *.h should be quoted, to avoid possible shell expansion
[12:11] <bekks> Rory: NAme one directory where you havent read access by default. There is only one, and you will never need access to it as user. Do you know which is it?
[12:11] <Rory> /root
[12:11] <pers3us> rajrajraj: Both bekks and Rory explained you what find does, I actually want to tell you about man command. If you are not sure what a command should do, you should always do man <command name>, example:  man find
[12:11] <bekks> Rory: Correct. So you dont need sudo.
[12:12] <rajrajraj> Rory: bekks thanks it is working, but yeah slow, anyways i shall wait
[12:12] <bekks> rajrajraj: It searches all files, regardless of wether updatdb already put them into some database or whatever. find inspects your filesystem.
[12:12] <nibbler_> rajrajraj: you can use locate, this needs to update the db from time to time, which takes as much time a find i'd guess, but allows for quick searching
[12:13] <bekks> nibbler_: And, updatedb does not track all directories.
[12:13] <rajrajraj> pers3us: i know man and info both which gives too too much of information, if i need a para to read, i will have to read all the pages to exactly understand what it does, and  by the way for a new bie it is really difficult to understand what is returned by man or info
[12:13] <Rory> bekks: This is a list of "permission denied" errors resulting from running the command "find /" on this machine http://rory.sh/files/find_errors.txt
[12:14] <bekks> Rory: Do you really expect headers files to be in /var/spool /var/log /run /proc etc.?
[12:14] <rajrajraj> Rory: just use sudo then "permission denied" errror wont be there any more
[12:14] <pers3us> rajrajraj: True that, but that is how you improve yourself.
[12:14] <bekks> rajrajraj: If so, your system is broken hopelessly.
[12:14] <Rory> bekks: No of course not. And anyway the annoynance here is the peppering of the console with error output, so doing "find..." 2>/dev/null would be fine anyway
[12:15] <Rory> bekks: It was more to avoid having to pick useful results out of lines of errors, rather than actually needing to traverse those directories
[12:16] <rajrajraj> bekks: what does it mean by "broken helplessly"
[12:16] <bekks> Rory: For avoiding it, you would use: find /lib /lib32 /lib64 /usr /opt instead
[12:16] <bekks> rajrajraj: Wasnt for you, I mistabbed. :)
[12:17] <Rory> Anyway, this is why we have "locate" =)
[12:17] <rajrajraj> pers3us: you know we never had to read so hard to learn windows OS, its like very simple to use and every thing. dont get me wrong all i am saying is for me and other i know, it is really difficult to understand ubuntu
[12:18] <rajrajraj> bekks: ok
[12:18] <ianmac1> rajrajraj, yes, a skateboard is much easier to use than a fighter jet ;)
[12:18] <krizoek> hi. anyone here know of any graphical firewall log/realtime analyzer that would interpret network activities? like in this picture http://img.generation-nt.com/blackice-defender-567x438_09023701B600026169.png
[12:18] <bekks> rajrajraj: Thats because there is a learning curve in Ubuntu - if you want to knoe how things work, there is more to do than just clicking with your mouse.
[12:18] <ianmac1> bekks +1
[12:19] <bekks> ianmac1: Looking at 1280 jumps or stuff - I prefer the jet.
[12:19] <ianmac1> me too
[12:19] <Rory> rajrajraj: For what it's worth, if I tried doing anything in-depth like this on Windows I'd be worse than useless.   Also, you have much more experience with windows but you weren't BORN knowing it.  There was a learning curve whether you recall it or not.
[12:19] <rajrajraj> bekks:  i understand that, thats why i am using ubuntu now a days, but due to some resposibility i have to do things which i am not even aware of, for e.g. "finding the agent.h file and changing its content"
[12:19] <ianmac1> I learned more about hardware and software in my first year of using Ubuntu than I did in 10 years of using Windows
[12:20] <rajrajraj> cfhowlett: i know that
[12:20] <cfhowlett> ianmac1, that's what happens when you become your own sysadmin
[12:20] <cfhowlett> :0
[12:20] <Rory> krizoek: You could maybe take a look at Snort https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SnortIDS
[12:21] <krizoek> ty :)
[12:21] <bekks> rajrajraj: Then you should be the one who knows where you put it, since Ubuntu didnt do it.
[12:23] <rajrajraj> bekks:  alright i gotta go now thanks for your kind help
[12:23] <rajrajraj> gotta go bye
[12:24] <simonsimcity> Hi, all
[12:24] <simonsimcity> Is there a reason, why a fresh Ubuntu Server installation should not answer to a ping?
[12:25] <bekks> simonsimcity: There is a firewall, that may prevent it. Or you misconfigured the network settings.
[12:25] <simonsimcity> Yesterday I already had an issue with this machine, that it constantly switched back to an address it once received by the DHCP-server, even so I put in a static address ...
[12:26] <Rory> simonsimcity: Can you ping other machines on the network *from* the server? ie is it actually sucesfully connected to your network?
[12:26] <bekks> simonsimcity: Then you have a network configuration issue most likely.
[12:26] <simonsimcity> Rory: I can ping other machines in this network and can neither ping the machine from one of the others in the same network.
[12:27] <bekks> simonsimcity: Then you have a network configuration issue most likely.
[12:27] <Rory> simonsimcity: You can run the "sudo ifconfig" command and look for the "inet address" field that will tell you the machine's IP, is it what you are expecting?
[12:27] <simonsimcity> bekks: Do you have an idea, where I could start? For example yesterday, I found out, that the DHCP client jumped in when I sent a mail (sendmail got in action) ...
[12:27] <bekks> simonsimcity: ifconfig -a; disable network-manager, configure a static ip, test again.
[12:27] <Rory> simonsimcity: Is it only ping that isn't responding, or can you not access anything on the server at all (ssh, http etc)
[12:28] <simonsimcity> Rory: According to that, it is in the same subnet as all the others of my servers. I tried to ping it after ssh failed to connect.
[12:28] <Zorky> What file in the users home folder controls resolution for that user?
[12:28] <bekks> simonsimcity: So you issue is "I cannot connect to my server at all" and not "it isnt answering to ping".
[12:29] <bekks> simonsimcity: So start with the approach I told you :)
[12:29] <simonsimcity> bekks: network-manager is disabled in ubuntu-server, isn't it? I already configured a static ip-address, but it (seems random when ...) switches back to the dynamic address and back again.
[12:29] <bekks> simonsimcity: I am not using ubuntu server, I cant tell. Just doublecheck it. :)
[12:30] <bekks> simonsimcity: And where/how did you configure the static IP?
[12:30] <bekks> simonsimcity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[12:30] <sventon> Rory:  are you still here ?  , did try to boot from both my USB ports without sucess
[12:30] <simonsimcity> bekks: edited /etc/network/interface and restarted the machine.
[12:31] <bekks> simonsimcity: What did you put in /etc/network/interface ? Can you pastebin it, unless it is a publicly reachable IP?
[12:31] <simonsimcity> bekks: network-manager is not running (I at least got "Unknown job")
[12:31] <bekks> simonsimcity: Then disable it, as described in the link.
[12:32] <Rory> sventon: You could perhaps try this program for Mac http://penguintosh.com/tag/linux-usb-creator/
[12:33] <Zorky> Does anyone know what file controls the resolution in the users home folder?
[12:34] <simonsimcity> bekks: according to apt-get, it isn't installed - got it confirmed now.
[12:34] <bekks> simonsimcity: Thats good so far. Then can you pastebin your network config, unless it is a publicly reachable server?
[12:36] <simonsimcity> bekks: Here's the pastebin I posted yesterday. It's the same now, just that eth0:1 is disabled: http://pastebin.com/PMsDKs87
[12:37] <simonsimcity> The public ip-address is not the one used - just changed it to something random ...
[12:37] <ianmac1> heh, just found the Super+w key combo. nice
[12:38] <bekks> simonsimcity: But you ensured that the address, netmask and gateway are correct?
[12:40] <impradeepy> pls tell me data recovery software
[12:40] <simonsimcity> bekks: That's what I have on another machine, that I can connect to. They're physically all in the same network.
[12:41] <bekks> impradeepy: Please tell us what happened before so we can tell you which software to use.
[12:41] <simonsimcity> ifconfig shows the same settings, so ... the configuration-file is loaded ...
[12:41] <impradeepy> i want to recover deleted files from an external hdd
[12:43] <simonsimcity> bekks: that's crazy ... I have a script here trying to ping this server. After I first tried to ping some other server from this broken one, the ping got through ...
[12:43] <bekks> simonsimcity: Do you have control over the switch where your servers are connected to?
[12:44] <ubuntu> how to download themes for ubuntu
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[12:45] <simonsimcity> bekks: I have the contact of the one who does, but he affirmed that everything should be correct from his side ...
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: use your backups, you have backups right?
[12:46] <simonsimcity> Anyways. I'll try to work with it and will come back if the DHCP client takes over again - or something else rare happens ... :)
[12:46] <bekks> simonsimcity: Maybe he can take a look / monitor whats happening on the port(s) where the server in question is connected to?
[12:47] <bekks> simonsimcity: And you could uninstall the dhcp client too :)
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: if not, why not?
[12:49] <jacobi> 有人没有？
[12:50] <DJones> !cn | jacobi
[12:50] <ianmac1> !cn
[12:50] <simonsimcity> bekks: If I remove isc-dhcp-client, it also want's to remove ubuntu-minimal (worry)
[12:51] <ianmac1> simonsimcity, ubuntu-minimal is just a meta package, it's safe to remove. just remember to reinstall it before you upgrade ubuntu
[12:51] <simonsimcity> q
[12:52] <simonsimcity> ianmac1: will try that ...
[12:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:00] <nuthatch> f11 on my keboard does not scroll nicklist it just makes weechat fullscreen?
[13:00] <konamiko> morning
[13:00] <nuthatch> morning
[13:01] <konamiko> so I have an odd issue I've never seen before
[13:01] <konamiko> I don't have the menu bar at the top of xchat
[13:01] <konamiko> how do I open the channel list again?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> konamiko, you changed the setting to hide it
[13:02] <konamiko> how do I change it back? I only just downloaded it on this PC
[13:02] <ianmac1> konamiko, the menus should be in the unity menubar at the top of the screen
[13:03] <konamiko> oh! Ubuntu does weird things to my userbars
[13:04] <konamiko> thank you
[13:15] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[13:22] <s_faraday> hi
[13:22] <s_faraday> I'm making a source package
[13:23] <s_faraday> and having this error
[13:23] <s_faraday> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[13:23] <s_faraday> how can I fix it?
[13:23] <loa> hello
[13:23] <cfhowlett> loa, greetings
[13:23] <loa> how i can add user to group using ubuntu?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !source
[13:23] <loa> using gui in ubuntu *
[13:23] <loa> i have 13.10
[13:23] <loa> i can do this on 10.04, but how in 13.10
[13:24] <cfhowlett> loa, system.users and groups>users>manage groups
[13:24] <StrangeNoises> wow, haha. radeon 7750 installed, and after getting the nvidia stuff out of the way and reverting stuff to defaults, it just works, multiscreen and all
[13:24] <sciuscia> ciao
[13:24] <sciuscia> !list
[13:24] <StrangeNoises> i was expecting a day-long struggle there, what with amd reputation
[13:25] <pc100_> HELO
[13:25] <loa> cfhowlett, can't understand where is that menu?
[13:25] <loa> cfhowlett, i opened system users, but can't found anything about groups
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> loa: why not use cli, bit easier.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> loa: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[13:27] <StrangeNoises> hm, no dropshadows around windows. took me a moment to notice. am i on llvmpipe here?
[13:27] <OerHeks> users/groups menu is not standard installed, sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools
[13:27] <ObrienDave> LOL is this the Italian warez channel? ;)
[13:27] <konamiko> yay, I figured out how to disable the global menu
[13:28] <StrangeNoises> entirely possible. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver says this card only via llvmpipe but references a bug which claims to have had a fix released before saucy got out the door
[13:28] <StrangeNoises> question is, how do i tell definitively?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> loa, try user settings choose a user and then go to advanced settings
[13:30] <s_faraday> a complete output is here:
[13:30] <s_faraday> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6370455/
[13:31]  * photon hears StrangeNoises
[13:32] <StrangeNoises> photon, oh good, was hoping someone would ;-)
[13:32] <StrangeNoises> aha, glxgears -info
[13:33] <photon> I'm sorry, couldn't resist ;)
[13:33]  * StrangeNoises sees what photon did there ;-P
[13:34] <StrangeNoises> hm, well, it's *not* saying it's using llvmpipe, but it is saying it's using mesa
[13:34] <onthestairs> Hello, I'm looking into buying a lenovo thinkpad s440. I notice that is certified hardware, but only when pre-installed by the manufacturer (http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201306-13872/). I am not receiving the option to buy with ubuntu pre-installed. Am I likely to run into any issues installing it myself?
[13:34] <StrangeNoises> everything actually seems happy tbh, i just noticed the lack of window ddropshadows etc
[13:34] <StrangeNoises> stuff like active blur behind the dash still works though
[13:36] <OerHeks> onthestairs, you'll be fine
[13:36] <onthestairs> OerHeks: brilliant thanks :)
[13:38] <loa> cfhowlett, i can't see where i can add user to group here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/system-sesstings.png
[13:39] <loa> where are "advanced settings"?
[13:40] <StrangeNoises> ah, transparent windows aren't, either
[13:41] <akis63> hi. anyone can help me with an issue at GNOME Activity Journal (formerly known as GNOME Zeitgeist)?
[13:42] <loa> cfhowlett, ah ok, i search "users and groups"
[13:42] <loa> and found it
[13:42] <cfhowlett> loa, :)
[13:43] <kskka> hello everyone, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i am trying to hibernate, it is saving successfully, when i try to resume, it just freezes, i read it in grub that it is reading from hibernation, how to solve that issue, i read somewhere on the internet and installed USWSUSP, earlier it was not working at all
[13:43] <kskka> i hae 2 gb of RAM and 4gb of swap
[13:44] <minimec> loa: 'sudo gedit /etc/group' syntax: To add 'minimec' to the gorup vboxusers 'vboxusers:x:125:minimec' in my case...
[13:44] <kskka> saved state size was of just 600 Mb, and during startup i shows that behind splash screen that it read contents from the disk
[13:44] <k1l_> minimec: that is so wrong. please dont advice to run GUI with sudo
[13:44] <kskka> successfully
[13:45] <loa> minimec, i need to give permissions to use printers, i even don't know how group is called...
[13:45] <s_faraday> guys..
[13:45] <k1l_> minimec: and to add users to a group that is way easier to use the command ActionParsnip gave some minutes ago. (when using the temrinal anyway)
[13:45] <loa> lpadmins or somethings.
[13:45] <kskka> help guys
[13:45] <s_faraday> can u help me?
[13:46] <kskka> s_faraday: what is your problem, just type it, if someone aware of it, they will answer
[13:46] <loa> i have ubuntu crash with no information in logs and i decide to do this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FCrashdumpRecipe
[13:47] <loa> but looks like installer don't add this "crashkernel=" into grub parameter to kernel
[13:47] <loa> how i can do this by hand in ubuntu way?
[13:47] <s_faraday> i know
[13:47] <s_faraday> kskka: i got this error
[13:48] <loa> this param "crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M"
[13:48] <s_faraday> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[13:48] <s_faraday> kskka: and this is full output:
[13:48] <s_faraday> ]http://paste.ubuntu.com/6370455/
[13:49] <s_faraday> how can i fix it? :/
[13:49] <MrQuist> crashkernel is a nice function
[13:49] <abradley> autofs problem: nfs share not mounting. auto.master: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367032/ . auto.nfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367033/ .  /mnt/nfs/proxmox exists locally already. when autofs starts /proxmox disappears
[13:49] <MrQuist> i use it all the time in windows
[13:49] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: looks like you have none of the dependencies for your package installed
[13:50] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: none of them?
[13:51] <Acony> my printscreen btn is not working 13.04 gnome
[13:52] <Acony> can somebody help me to fix that since I need it badly for real
[13:52] <minimec> loa: for cups configuration: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf The group in /etc/group would be 'lpadmin'.
[13:53] <kskka> guys , help me to sort out system freeze while resuming from hibernation,  i have 2 gb RAM and 4gb swap and it is saving system state successfully, now i installed uswsusp and but it freeze while resuming, how to sort out that
[13:54] <minimec> k1l_: I somehow accept the 'sudo' comment. It's an old habit. And 'usermod' is cool, if you know the name of the group... ;)
[13:54] <k1l_> loa: did you try that one? <ActionParsnip> loa: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[13:55] <k1l_> minimec: using sudo with GUI will break things. that is why there is gksu and gksudo
[13:56] <minimec> k1l_: I know it 'can' break things, but it never does on my machines... ;)
[13:56] <guest-MmKq7e> ers
[13:56] <guest-MmKq7e> 49ers
[13:57] <xyzwhatever> ok, for whatever reason ubuntu created for me (by default) a tiny home folder and the rest of the harddisk is under /media/username/hdname        now when i want to copy something with ssh on my computer i can only access the home folder not the /media stuff how can I solve this?? ;(
[13:58] <bittyx-work> Hi all. A quick question about symlinks - if I have a symlink /path/link that points to, say, /home/user, and i create a symlink /path/link/otherlink (that points to something else entirely), will the "otherlink" actually be created in /home/user ?
[13:58] <julian_> Hello all
[13:58] <julian_> can somebody explain environment variables to me?
[13:59] <julian_> I'm installing postgres, and all of the commands it's installed are unavailable. However, they work, but I need to specify the path to each command
[13:59] <julian_> Apparently, altering the .bash_profile of a user will fix this
[13:59] <julian_> can someone explain, why, and what's the syntax of the .bash_profile ?
[14:00] <bittyx-work> julian_: Google "bashrc vs bash_profile" - the first few links explain not only the differences, but what the files themselves are used for.
[14:01] <bittyx-work> julian_: But yes, you probably need to add the path to your commands in your PATH environment variable (PATH is a special environment variable, so search for that too).
[14:01] <julian_> bittyx-work: Okay, cool. I have a user, 'postgres'. Where would I find 'postgres' .bash_profile ?
[14:02] <xyzwhatever> this is suckkk :D
[14:02] <xyzwhatever> i mean :(
[14:02] <julian_> indeed.
[14:03] <xyzwhatever> why scp only works for home foler???
[14:04] <Myrtti> xyzwhatever: depends on which way you're doing it, but usually it could be about write permissions?
[14:04] <bittyx-work> julian_: Check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1868728
[14:04] <zhr0> whats lubuntu root password?
[14:04] <Myrtti> zhr0: there is none
[14:04] <zhr0> on live cd
[14:04] <StrangeNoises> hm, noisy fan in this card
[14:04] <StrangeNoises> used to graphics cards without fans (muttergrumble)
[14:04] <bittyx-work> julian_: It seems to be *exactly* your problem.
[14:05] <zhr0> got it just needs a sudo
[14:08] <Igor__> hello, can i get some help, i was updating my ubuntu 12.04, and after, i did restart, and then i removed old kernel via synaptic. now i cant boot into it any more...
[14:09] <nibbler_> Igor__: are you sure you have some recent kernel still on the system?
[14:09] <cfhowlett> Igor__, and that's why you always keep at least ONE old kernel in reserve ...
[14:09] <xyzwhatever> Myrtti i use     scp file adminusername@mycomputer:/media/stupidhisnothomefolder   and then it says permission denied :(
[14:09] <Igor__> yes i am sure, because, two kernels was checked in synaptic
[14:09] <Igor__> yes i learned a lesson now
[14:09] <Igor__> :/
[14:11] <Igor__> there was 4 things checked in synaptic two of them where about 3.5-041, a two of them where 3.5-042, and i checked only 3.5-041 for complete removeal
[14:12] <nibbler_> Igor__: its easy to fix anyway, just boot from usbstick/cd, chose to rescue system, chroot to the system and use apt-get / aptitude to reinstall the kernels needed
[14:12] <xyzwhatever> or how can I add another harddisk to my home folder? is that possible ?
[14:13] <Igor__> thank you going to try that right now
[14:13] <Igor__> :)
[14:13] <rollin> hi
[14:13] <nibbler_> xyzwhatever: you can mount any drive/partition to any folder. copy over the files first and mount it (use /etc/fstab to make it permanent). if you employ lvm its even possible on the fly
[14:13] <xyzwhatever> when I do this??       ln -s /media/stupidHD  ~/newfolder         ?
[14:13] <nibbler_> xyzwhatever: that might be sufficient
[14:14] <xyzwhatever> is it permanent?
[14:14] <xyzwhatever> ill check it out
[14:15] <_aziz_> #italy
[14:15] <nibbler_> xyzwhatever: thats permanent, yes. but maybe not optimal. i'd suggest putting all of /home on the other harddrive
[14:15] <RandomTghts> Hey I'm having problems staying connected with pci wireless can anyone help
[14:15] <cfhowlett> _aziz_, !it|
[14:15] <azizLIGHTS> ?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !it
[14:16] <_aziz_> LOL
[14:16] <_aziz_> thanks
[14:17] <RandomTghts> Hey I'm having problems staying connected with pci wireless can anyone help
[14:17] <_aziz_> bye
[14:19] <minimec> RandomTghts: wireless 'g' or 'n' connection? If you have unstable wifi connections, I would 1. limit connections to 'g' on the router or computer , 2. choose 5ghz band if possible, 3. test different channels on the 2.4 band.
[14:19] <chi_>  ого
[14:20] <RandomTghts> anyone know how to fix wireless from dropping please pm me thanks
[14:20] <chi_> Сколько народу
[14:20] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: you want some -dev packages there
[14:20] <gordonjcp> !pm | RandomTghts
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !ru|chi_,
[14:20] <RandomTghts> oh ok thanks
[14:20] <chi_> А ЗА МАТ ТУТ БЛЯТЬ НЕ БАНЯТ?
[14:20] <chi_> оу
[14:20] <chi_> круто:)
[14:20] <FloodBot1> chi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !pl
[14:21] <Rory> 3I don't think that's Polish cfhowlett
[14:21]  * LjL stares at everyone
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Rory, it was a W.A.G.
[14:21] <tibor> hey guys, does anyone know what's the difference between apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng ?
[14:21] <Rory> man w.a.g
[14:21] <RandomTghts> wireless g and I have two different routers that i have tried both with the same results
[14:21] <RandomTghts> also tried different channels as well
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Rory, wild arsed guess
[14:22] <Rory> !ru | maybe it's russian chi_
[14:22]  * LjL keeps staring - wooohooo, the !ru was already sent!
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Rory, that was my first guess ...
[14:22] <tibor> anybody knows the difference between apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng ?
[14:24] <GUSALJR> ggggggl
[14:24] <GUSALJR> ñ
[14:24] <tibor> ?
[14:24] <GUSALJR> ola
[14:25] <Pici> !es | GUSALJR
[14:25] <minimec> RandomTghts: So you think the linux wifi driver is not reliable. Ok. If it is a pci card, you can verify the card with 'lspci' (lsusb for usb dongle). Check the device you have and search the internet with something like "YOURCARD driver ubuntu". Maybe there are some options for your device.
[14:26] <tibor> i guess nobody knows the difference between apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng ...
[14:26] <RandomTghts> ok thanks
[14:27] <realma10094> hello
[14:27] <cfhowlett> realma10094, greetings
[14:28] <realma10094> hello,everyone~~is someone has met two essid problems before?
[14:28] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I don't know which packeages I need
[14:28] <minimec> tibor: 'ng' normally stands for 'next generation' Often those packages become 'transitional dummy' packages after a while. Example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=scribus-ng&searchon=names
[14:29] <realma10094> I use: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[14:29] <realma10094> but there are two essid in one cell
[14:30] <realma10094>  two ESSID's (or maybe I should say an extra ESSID) being broadcast by the router for the same MAC
[14:30] <realma10094> anyone knows?
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> how can i extract a tar in a certiain folder a.k.a specify the path where to extract?
[14:31] <tibor> thanks minimec
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: install unp and use that, unp extracts to pwd :)
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> :o
[14:32] <chi_> hello.
[14:34] <marcos> cmd
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: eg, if the file is /$HOME/Downloads/filename.tar.gz   and you want the extracted data on your desktop, use:   cd $HOME/Desktop; unp /$HOME/Downloads/filename.tar.gz
[14:34] <articulas> I really really love Ubuntu. So im not giving up. My wifi picks up networks but never connects. Do I need to configure something?
[14:35] <marcos> boa tarde estou tendo dificuldade em fazer funcionar meu modem olicard no ubuntu apesar de ler vários docs a ignorancia  me impede o progresso alguém pode me ajudar ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: unp makes life easy
[14:35] <realma10094> iwlist shows multiple SSIDs in a single CELL
[14:36] <realma10094> anyone can help me?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> and tar command does not have this by default ActionParsnip ? :o
[14:36] <craigbass1976> I'm about to become a caregiver for an adult with developmental disabilities (mentally retarded has historically been the diagnosis) because I didn't punish myself doing treatment level foster care a few years ago...  I can either communicate with the rest of the team with a fax (bleah) or encrypted emails.  Is that something I can do at a client level, or the server?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: install unp, then use it
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> ;)))
[14:37] <llucasbrasill> bom dia!
[14:38] <ashu11> Hi , i need to run one of my custom service at startup without any user been logged in
[14:38] <ashu11> where should i add an entry for this.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: you can add scripts in /etc/rc.local  above the 'exit 0' line and it will run just before the login request, you will need to background it with an ampersand and it will run as root unless you use 'su'
[14:39] <craigbass1976> ashu11, Used to be the /etc/rcx.d directories, but I haven't had to maintain a regular server since before 10.04...
[14:39] <ashu11> thanks ActionParsnip
[14:40] <ashu11> thanks craigbass1976
[14:40] <ashu11> i dont have to login to any user at all
[14:40] <craigbass1976> ashu11, whoah ho, I guess it still is that way...
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: it will run before anyone logs in, as root
[14:40] <ashu11> i just want that even if i do not login, my system has that service up
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: again, backgroud it if the command runs a long time (or forever) as it will hang the boot
[14:41] <ashu11> thanks craigbass1976 ,
[14:42] <ashu11> ActionParsnip, , would it run when i try login  ?? just before login .....
[14:42] <ashu11> is it what you mean
[14:43] <ashu11> or it will run anyway as root
[14:43] <ashu11> whether i login or not.
[14:43] <ashu11> i guess u meant it will run as root , whether or not anyone logs in
[14:43] <ashu11> i just have to remember to make it as background
[14:43] <ashu11> right ??
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: before any login prompt (lightdm, or server prompt for login) it will run, as root
[14:44] <realma10094> anyone uses wicd to configure wireless card?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: if nobody logs in, it will still run
[14:44] <ashu11> okay , thanks, it would work for me :) thanks
[14:45] <allaire> No matter if my LANG is set in /etc/default/locale (LANG=en_US.UTF-8), `locale` always returns nothing, any ideas?
[14:46] <s_faraday> how can I found the complete name of a package that have a specific file
[14:46] <s_faraday> like lXt
[14:46] <s_faraday> cause the package name is not the same
[14:51] <nibbler_> s_faraday: apt-file search /usr/bin/gedit
[14:54] <KeyboardNotFound> Emergency! I need to encrypt all my files and protect from copying, can i do? I have installed ubuntu 13.10
[14:55] <ObrienDave> turn off Wi-Fi, unplug Ethernet, wear a foil hat :)
[14:56] <Rory> KeyboardNotFound: The best way is to back up your data and reinstall, selecting the LVM With Encryption option during the installation
[14:57] <KeyboardNotFound> is there other way to encrypt files without reinstalling ?
[14:58] <xyzwhatever> why does it take ages to delete a bunch of files (shift+del) in ubuntu?
[15:00] <_joey> how do I toggle between desktop workspaces?
[15:00] <_joey> thanks
[15:01] <xyzwhatever> np
[15:02] <minimec> _joey: That depends on the windows manager. Normally <ctrl><alt>arrow left/right (<super> left/right in Elementary).
[15:03] <princef> hi, how can i add the rhytmbox (or other) to sound indicator in xfce? with libindicator?
[15:03] <sventon> Rory: still here ?  I downloaded the "Linux USB Builder" as you suggested and have now a bootable USB stick.  THANKS!
[15:03] <Rory> !yay | sventon
[15:03] <sventon> Unfortunately then I try to start the OS I got a flickering screen.  Have now checked the md5 sums on the ubuntu.iso and USB  ( /Volumes/LINUXDISK1 )  and they do not match.   Should they do that  ?  or do the "usb builder"  make some changes ?
[15:03] <Rory> oh
[15:04] <Rory> sventon: When you first boot from the iso, there's a purple screen with a keyboard icon at the bottom. Press any key to access a menu. One of the options will check the integrity of the USB drive. This is the best way to check
[15:04] <Rory> sventon: Although it's flickering, can you see enough to install Ubuntu?
[15:05] <sventon> no I can't see anything
[15:06] <Rory> OK so check the integrity using the method I described above
[15:06] <madalin> hello
[15:07] <madalin> i'm trying to port forward from public ip to local, but BLOCK a specific ip..anyone ?
[15:07] <sventon> Rory: sorry, do you mean that I will be able to access a menu even if i can't see anything ?
[15:09] <nibbler_> madalin: thats easy, first -A INPUT -s ip.to.block.here -j DROP, then something containging DNAT
[15:09] <_aziz_>  /j #ubuntu-ita
[15:09] <Rory> sventon: Do you get as far as a purple screen?
[15:10] <MindSpark> does anyone know of an open source web publishing tool? Something that keeps mirrors a staging version into a live version and denies access to changes to the live system?
[15:10] <nibbler_> _andyj_: its #ubuntu-it - and without space or anything before the /
[15:10] <sventon> unfortunately not
[15:10] <Rory> sventon: Do you have another USB drive you can try? Or a blank DVD?
[15:14] <sventon> I have been able to boot this ubuntu iso image using virtualbox,  so I think the image are fine. Do you know if the md5 sum on the image and usb should match ?
[15:14] <Rory> I don't know
[15:14] <Rory> I don't know how the process of copying to the flash drive works
[15:16] <julian> where are users located?
[15:16] <sventon> Rory: thank you for taking me this far : )   do you know if/how  I can log in using a shell ?
[15:17] <Rory> Guest42365: User's home directories are located in the /home directory
[15:17] <Guest42365> Rory: I navigate to filesystem > home
[15:17] <sventon> MindSpark: maybe you can use github to push to github-pages or your own server ?
[15:17] <Guest42365> but there's only my root directory there
[15:17] <Guest42365> Rory: And yet if I run ' su - postgres ' I change to the postgres user
[15:17] <Rory> Guest42365: If you are the only user, that is to be expected
[15:18] <Rory> Guest42365: The postgres user doesn't have a home directory
[15:18] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: do you know what the name of the package is?  Something like "apt-get build-dep <name>" will pull in the build dependencies
[15:18] <Rory> Guest42365: Run the command "cat /etc/passwd" to see all users
[15:18] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: hence "build-dep"
[15:18] <MindSpark> sventon: that would be for versioning I guess… I need a publishing tool. A system that copies files from staging into live. So one can have a testing environment, and the live environment would be an identical copy on a different server
[15:19] <Guest42365> Rory: OKay, thanks. I created postgres using the useradd command. Does the postgres user have a bash file and all the rest of it?
[15:19] <Guest42365> Rory: How do I create a user properly?
[15:19] <Colt7w> boa tarde!
[15:20] <Rory> Guest42365: the "adduser" command
[15:20] <NotreDev> i want to discover what interfaces my ubuntu host has, how do i do that? ifconfig doesn't seem to show down interfaces
[15:20] <sventon> MindSpark: I have not done this but you can push directly from github to your server. why do you need a publishing tool ?
[15:20] <Guest42365> Rory: I think 'useradd' was a type...I think I did create the postgres user using the "adduser" command. Where is postgres' home directory?
[15:20] <Guest42365> *was a typo
[15:21] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I fix it
[15:21] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: here was the answer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-*-4175419164/
[15:21] <Pici> Guest42365: keep in mind that both 'adduser' and 'useradd' are both valid commands.
[15:21] <Rory> Guest42365: Home directories are defined in /etc/passwd if you find the line for the postgres user you can see
[15:21] <loa> hello, how i can see if kernel panic, if i was in gnome?
[15:21] <MindSpark> sventon: how do you go about pushing from github?
[15:21] <Guest42365> Pici: Rory: Okay, thanks both, I'll have a look
[15:21] <sventon> MindSpark: have you tried out Docker.io ?
[15:21] <Rory> Guest42365: For example, my user's line is "rory:x:1000:1000:Rory Holland,,,:/home/rory:/bin/bash" which shows my home directory is /home/rory
[15:21] <loa> for example i execute this command echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger
[15:22] <loa> my system freez/
[15:22] <loa> what i can do next?
[15:22] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: tnx :)
[15:22] <loa> how i can see kernel panic message?
[15:22] <Rory> loa: sudo dmesg
[15:22] <MindSpark> sventon: no, I'll have a look at it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Rory: why sudo for dmesg?
[15:23] <loa> Rory, hm? dmesg just record current kernel log
[15:23] <Rory> ActionParsnip: When I try it without on my system I get: dmesg: klogctl failed: Operation not permitted
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Rory: sounds broken, users can run dmesg
[15:24] <Guest42365> Rory: Um.I don't have a passwd directory? :P I have an etc directory, but no passwd directory inside that
[15:24] <loa> so again, how i can see terminal if i had kernel panic?
[15:24] <Rory> Guest42365: The command "cat /etc/passwd"
[15:24] <Rory> Guest42365: passwd is a text file
[15:24] <Guest42365> cool :L
[15:24] <loa> now my system just freez.
[15:24] <Guest42365> what does cat do? Is it like nano?
[15:24] <Rory> Guest42365: it just prints that file to the console
[15:24] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: it conCATenates files
[15:24] <Guest42365> ah I see
[15:25] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: you can type cat thing1.txt thing2.txt thing3.txt > allthings.txt
[15:25] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: and get all three files run end-to-end
[15:25] <denis_> l
[15:25] <Guest42365> gordonjcp: it creates an allthings.txt file?
[15:25] <goldstar> I cant copy values from keepass to terminal, suggestions ?
[15:26] <Ubuntucharge> Plop
[15:26] <Rory> Guest42365: Yes that is what the > character does - it redirects the output of the command(s) on the left, to the file on the right
[15:26] <sventon> MindSpark: sorry for dragging in docker in this,, docker let you build self contained images that you can upload. In other words you will have exactly the same environment on your local machine developing as on the server. Docker is still beta but a very interesting project. Using github you can push your repos and live update for example your website but it don't give you the same environment locally and on the server. Two diff
[15:26] <sventon> rent tools and sorry if I confused you with my earlier answer
[15:26] <Ubuntucharge> Some french here?
[15:27] <Rory> !fr | Ubuntucharge
[15:27] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: the "> allthings.txt" does
[15:27] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: ">" in this sense means "redirect to this file"
[15:27] <Pici> !bash
[15:27] <dmavroid> Hello!! i just bought a graphics card (GeForce 210) and i dont know which driver should i choose from my additionla drivers option, in order to make use of my graphics card. can someone help me plz
[15:27] <MindSpark> sventon: this sounds interesting, does it make an image of the entire running system?
[15:27] <Rory> Guest42365: Note that > will overwrite the contents of the file if it already exists. If you wanted to append to the end of an existing file you would use >>
[15:28] <Rory> dmavroid: the "nvidia-current" one is usually best
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> dmavroid: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    will install it for you
[15:28] <dmavroid> Rory: therefore i am using the appropriate one without changing anything?
[15:28] <Guest42365> gordonjcp: Okay cool. I'll probably forget it when it comes to use cat again x) But thanks
[15:29] <dmavroid> ActionParsnip: this ommand will select the best one?
[15:29] <sventon> MindSpark: it use linux containers, I don't exactly know the technology but as I understand it will sandbox everything.
[15:29] <Guest42365> Rory: PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> dmavroid: it will install the driver for you, it will also update along with your other packages
[15:29] <Guest42365> so the postgre's home folder in var/lib/postgresql ?
[15:30] <Guest42365> isn't that a weird place :L ?
[15:30] <dmavroid> ActionParsnip: fantastic. Somoething else now. how can i test that i am getting the most out of my graphics card?
[15:30] <nopcall> how can i disable the launcher ? I really hate it
[15:31] <nopcall> ubuntu 13.10
[15:32] <dmavroid> Someone plz... How can i test if i am getting the most out of my graphics card? is there any way?
[15:33] <Guest42365> Rory: I'm looking for the bashrc file..inside postgres there is this: 9.1 > main . I cd into main it says permission denied. I sudo cd into main and it says the command cd isn't found!
[15:35] <bekks> Guest42365: Whats the actual issue you want to solve by using your postgres user?
[15:37] <Guest42365> bekks: The command 'create role' is unavailable to the postgres user
[15:38] <Guest42365> bekks: I want to find postgres ' bashrc file, and change the environment file so that the command is available to it.
[15:38] <xyzwhatever> does scp ignore already existing files by default?? im copying a huge folder and want to restart in between
[15:38] <Hodapp> by default, no
[15:39] <Hodapp> why not use rsync?
[15:40] <esde> in http://pastebin.com/B2fuRXTP is the variable NOW represented as =$(..) because the system is supposed to evaluate everything after $ as if it were entered into a shell and then the output is the value for the variable? and FILE=".." is written like that because it's simply setting a text value?
[15:40] <bekks> xyzwhatever: scp doesnt ignore files by default.
[15:40] <bekks> xyzwhatever: Use rsync for your purposes, which uses sftp by default.
[15:40] <Guest42365> rory: What's going on? PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[15:41] <xyzwhatever> is rsync syntax the same?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> xyzwhatever: you could use grsync as a GUI, it shows the rsyc command in the footer :)
[15:41] <Guest42365> rory: /var/lib/postgresql doesn't contain any bashrc, and bin/bash can't seem to be read by nano. All goobeldgook
[15:43] <Marlenee> i cant use cluster shell from command line it require GUi x11 or something like that can some one help me to use it
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: cssh is awesome
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: run:   cssh server1 server2 server3    and you will get the connections, what you type in the little box goes to all servers
[15:45] <Marlenee> ActionParsnip ; can I PM You
[15:47] <dmavroid> Hello again! i just typed the following command in a terminal (sudo apt-get install nvidia current) in order to install the appropriate driver for my graphics card. I have noticed that there is a problem because i have the bubling windows effect and after the installation it seems like there is a lag. I suppose something is not working well
[15:50]  * joossee waves to #ubuntu
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: its that simple but sure if you want
[15:50] <dmavroid> Someone plzzzzzzzzzzzz
[15:51] <deper29> dmavroid: okay, first off you need a bit of patience. Second, did you type 'nvidia current' or 'nvidia-current'?
[15:51] <joossee> hey ActionParsnip , file away in your memory banks: iw reg set US very important for many wNIC's to work in 5ghz mode
[15:51] <dmavroid> deper29: Sorry. 'nvidia-current'
[15:52] <Guest42365> COULD SOMEONE ANSWER THIS PLEASE? http://askubuntu.com/questions/372085/locate-a-users-bashrc-file
[15:52] <gordonjcp> !caps | Guest42365
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> joossee: I haveno idea what that means
[15:54] <joossee> ActionParsnip, many wireless nics, like TPLINK WDN4800, will be set to world while a ubuntu install will be set to US. For some reason the 5ghz mode will not be enabled by default. "iw set reg US" will fix this problem
[15:54] <deper29> dmavroid: what kind of video card do you have?
[15:54] <rypervenche> Guest42365: That's for the PostgreSQL user. When you installed the package it created the user for you.
[15:54] <dmavroid> deper29: geforce 210
[15:54] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i figure this is gonnacome up quite a bit as/if people transition to 5ghz
[15:54] <dmavroid> deper29: gigabyte geforce 210
[15:55] <deper29> dmavroid: gksudo nvidia-settings
[15:55] <joossee> ActionParsnip, the other fix is recompiling the drivers, in my case ath9k
[15:55] <joossee> which is much much harder :)
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> joossee: i see, weird
[15:55] <deper29> look in there and see if you can change the performance settings of your card.
[15:55] <joossee> ActionParsnip, yes we spent quite a bit of time on this yesterday. many helped but that is for sure a fix
[15:56] <rypervenche> Guest42365: You shouldn't need to change environment variables for the user, but you could add a .bashrc file yourself to its home directory I suppose.
[15:56] <dmavroid> deper29: what should i do with that?
[15:56] <willmore> Hello, all.  I'm tuning a 13.10 install which uses an nVidia GPU to drive a TV.  The TV overscans and I've managed to correct that with a metamode setting in my xorg.conf fine.  The login screen (gdm?) looks perfect, but once I start my xfce session, the display reverts to the old (no metamode) setting.
[15:56] <rypervenche> Guest42365: "psql -U postgres" should work fine though.
[15:56] <willmore> Is something in the window manager startup running an xrandr command that undoes my metamode setting?
[15:57] <willmore> xrandr says that the current mode was set by xrandr, so that makes me suspicious.
[15:57] <deper29> dmavroid: I can't remember where in there, but there are performance settings. just set it to high performance and see what happens
[15:58] <dmavroid> deper29: is it propable to be the OpenGL settings?
[15:58] <deper29> dmavroid: hold on, I'll get up and go look on my desktop
[15:59] <dmavroid> deper29: thank you for that
[16:00] <deper29> dmavroid: powermizer
[16:02] <dmavroid> deper29: unfortunately i am still getting the lag!
[16:03] <deper29> dmavroid: I'm not sure then. That seemed to do it for me. I just changed powermizer settnigs from adaptive to maximum performance.
[16:04] <mehdi> Is there a way for me to envoke upstart to increase it's logging levels on a running system?
[16:04] <dmavroid> deper29: thank you again. should i choose another drivers?
[16:04] <hardy1> !weather KRAT
[16:04] <dmavroid> deper29: from additional drivers?
[16:05] <zexcriz> experiencing mir and it's good now probs till now :D
[16:05] <deper29> dmavroid: hmm, if you're running nvidia-current that should be good
[16:05] <hardy1> !weather krasnoyarsk
[16:05] <dcope> will monit actually restart a process if it has crashed
[16:05] <dcope> ?
[16:05] <zexcriz> anyone noticed performance difference in 13.10 ?
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | zexcriz
[16:06] <zykotick9> zexcriz: 13.10 doesn't use mir... just sayin'
[16:06] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, ok
[16:07] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, For what it's worth this is support not chat, that is a chat prompt that could go on forever. ;)
[16:07] <zexcriz> zykotick9, really ? i thought MIR has been introduced in ubuntu 13.10..!! thanks for that info.
[16:07] <zykotick9> zexcriz: it was suppose to be, delayed though
[16:08] <tux2> xmir Was supposed to be there but no..
[16:08] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, :)
[16:08] <tux2> o think they'll just do mir instead of xmir now
[16:09] <dmavroid> deper29: what should be the normal temperature for the Graphic card? i get a constant 43. is that normal?
[16:09] <bekks> dmavroid: Depends on you hardware, the cooler, and the fans used.
[16:09] <joossee> anything under 95 is good
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> dmavroid,  That is not a bad temp.
[16:10] <dmavroid> deper29: active fan on the module of the graphic card. astandard cpu coller and an  additional case fan!
[16:10] <dmavroid> deper29: active fan on the module of the graphic card. astandard cpu coller and an  additional case fan!
[16:10] <dmavroid> sorry
[16:11] <dmavroid> wilee-nilee: i had to ask because temp. is an indicator that something is not working properly! but it is good to know
[16:11] <bekks> dmavroid: So why are you concerned? If you have high temperatures, most likely you fans need to be cleaned. Nothing an OS can do about.
[16:12] <s_faraday> hi , I need the Boost C++ libraries, but this command got some errors :
[16:13] <s_faraday> sudo apt-get install libboost-*
[16:13] <ztane> yay help, after upgrading to 1310 my ubuntu-unity is now stuck to vietnamese TELEX ime and I donot have any clue as to how unconfigure it anymore
[16:13] <deper29> dmavroid: 43 should be fine.
[16:13] <s_faraday> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[16:13] <s_faraday> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[16:13] <s_faraday> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[16:13] <s_faraday> or been moved out of Incoming.
[16:13] <FloodBot1> s_faraday: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <ztane> used to be ibus-setup but it does not work...
[16:13] <ztane> I have no tray icon, nothing
[16:13] <jayar> why is it my windows computer can go into a ubuntu share on another computer and change files, but this ubuntu laptop can't?
[16:14] <NotreDev> i used `lshw -class network` to check for an interface that's present (eth1). however, ifconfig doesn't list it, and `sudo ifup eth1` returns "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1." how do i get this up?
[16:14] <s_faraday> why i see this??
[16:14] <s_faraday> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371278/
[16:14] <ztane> I have run_im ibus but i cant configure it in any way
[16:14] <bekks> NotreDev: ifconfig -a will show you all valid interfaces.
[16:14] <ztane> unity SUCKS
[16:14] <NotreDev> bekks: what makes an interface in/valid?
[16:15] <bekks> NotreDev: Being detected and being assigned an interface name makes it valid.
[16:15] <bekks> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 ... instead of sudo apt-get install package*
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> ztane, making mindless declarations knocks out a percentile of any help.
[16:15] <ztane> ok now I noticed that i can change between chinese and vietnamese ime with shift - super - space
[16:16] <ztane> wilee-nilee: hardly mindless
[16:17] <ztane> wilee-nilee: then explain to me why the unity update after another is harder to configure
[16:17] <s_faraday> bekks: tnx
[16:17] <bekks> ztane: "harder to configure"? In which manner?
[16:17] <ztane> bekks: i have bên linux user for 15 years
[16:17] <bekks> ztane: That doesnt explain what you are talking about :)
[16:18] <ztane> and now I have not any clue as to what IME i am using anymore
[16:18] <NotreDev> bekks: it seems to have a name. what am i missing? http://pastebin.com/LHNkTKn5
[16:18] <ztane> I have no tray icon from ibus even though it seems to be on
[16:18] <bekks> ztane: Whats "IME"?
[16:18] <ztane> Input Method Êditor
[16:18] <bekks> NotreDev: thats not the output of "ifconfig -a".
[16:18] <ztane> see
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: it's because you're trying to download conflicting packages. there are multiple versions of libboost in the repos, each conflict with each other. you need to choose 1 of them and install the dev packages for that. sudo apt-get install libboost1.54-dev
[16:19] <NotreDev> bekks: you are correct
[16:19] <ztane> why there is no icon from ibus
[16:19] <bekks> ztane: As far as I remember, I never configured an IME at all. Maybe it wasnt just clear to me that the thing I was configuring was an input method :)
[16:20] <NotreDev> bekks: so ifconfig -a shows the interface.
[16:20] <ztane> bekks: that is bc you do not write vietnames eand chinese
[16:20] <bekks> ztane: that may apply, yes.
[16:20] <bekks> NotreDev: Pastebin the output of ifconfig -a please.
[16:20] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO:  yes it says about confilicts
[16:20] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.54-dev'
[16:21] <bekks> s_faraday: apt-cache search libboost will show you alle valid packages.
[16:21] <ztane> ok I managed to install Finnish as ibus ime, so I can actually type with finnish keyboar
[16:21] <ztane> however
[16:21] <ztane> there is still no tray icon from Ibus
[16:22] <rantic> I have a bit of a dumb question as a newbie. I am learning about file permissions and usage of the ls command but had a question. I don't understand the group permissions for a file? If I create a file as the user kevin, how are group permissions automatically assigned to this file as well? As far as I understand, I'm part of a ton of groups?
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: 1.54 is whats on 13.10.    libboost-dev is the default (prob latest version)
[16:22] <NotreDev> http://pastebin.com/hJdrtQXP
[16:22] <ztane> even though [×] show icon on system tray
[16:22] <NotreDev> bekks: sorry, didn't tag you on that link -
[16:23] <bekks> NotreDev: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[16:23] <Guest20539> PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[16:23] <ztane> time to file a bug i guess
[16:23] <Guest20539> in order to create a .bashrc file for the postgres, I create it in /var/lib/postgresql ?
[16:23] <Guest20539> is the right or wrong?
[16:23] <NotreDev> bekks: dude, totally worked. guess i read the man pages wrong
[16:23] <Guest20539> PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[16:24] <Guest20539> < that's from the etc/passwd file
[16:24] <ztane> Guest20539: yes...
[16:24] <Guest20539> ztane. right, cool
[16:24] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: my distro is 13.04
[16:24] <ztane> Guest20539: though just sudo su -Hu postgres; cd and you are in the home directory
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
[16:25] <Guest20539> ztane. awesome! thanks for that tip
[16:25] <Guest20539> ztane: Actually no, invalid option H apparently :/
[16:26] <sam113101> how can I change the primary monitor in lightdm?
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: xorg.conf
[16:26] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I thought this config file was dead
[16:26] <ztane> Guest20539: sorry mistype just sudo su postgres
[16:26] <ztane> Guest20539: then cd
[16:28] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: done that,
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: not dead, just not always needed
[16:28] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: trying to configure a source package, got this error : configure: error: Could not link against boost_system !
[16:28] <jonat625> help: I updated chromium a few minutes ago and now i only see white pages
[16:29] <enlighter> hi all
[16:29] <enlighter> its enlighter
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> !yay | enlighter
[16:31] <NotreDev> bekks: so now the output of ifconfig is this http://pastebin.com/1QvcFvtX
[16:31] <NotreDev> i still don't have an address right?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: whats the exact error?
[16:31] <bekks> NotreDev: Correct. You need to configure it.
[16:34] <jonat625> what did i do wrong?
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> jonat625, This using the stable ppa?
[16:35] <frog_> wilee-nilee: i changed my nick. i think. but i could look if you tell me how to
[16:36] <Hansford> I am having problems here...new to ubuntu and with my cd roms . At startup they light up but once log in I cant get them to open ..can someone help me
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: have a look at this: http://notes.benv.junerules.com/blast-its-boost-slackware64-and-deluge-libtorrent-rasterbar/
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> frog_, Look up chromium ppa and read the instructions, ppa's are not really supported here is all.
[16:37] <zykotick9> Hansford: what happens if you run "eject" from a terminal?
[16:38] <kriskropd> I set up a ubuntu 13.10 minimal vm on a macintosh 10.8 host and am having trouble with the audio. The vm sees AC'97 audio controller provided by virtual box, but deemed it as multimedia UNCLAIMED - pavucontrol just sends to "dummy output" - does nayone have any experience or pointers that might help with this?
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> frog_, If I was going to use that browser I would just use the chrome version from google.
[16:38] <ztane> http://www.localizingjapan.com/blog/2013/10/20/japanese-input-on-ubuntu-linux-13-10-saucy-salamander/
[16:38] <ztane> how do i get that language icon in my tray ...
[16:39] <zykotick9> Hansford: in channel, or not at all.  your choice.
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: its there by default on 13.10
[16:40] <zykotick9> Hansford: so, not at all then.  best of luck.
[16:41] <Hansford> eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: try: alsactl init
[16:42] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: not for me after upgrade
[16:43] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: maybe i need to remove my xinputrc
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: try restarting , didn't show up for me on first boot
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> frog_, before you add any ppa make sure its version is any different than what you have from the ubuntu repos.
[16:44] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: 'alsactl: init:1758 No Soundcards found'
[16:44] <Hansford> zykotick9 this is the message : eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: i believe the applet is: indicator-keyboard
[16:46] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: ok appeared after relogin thanks
[16:46] <ztane> but now facing another problem again - there was an option to
[16:47] <ztane> ah 2 problems
[16:47] <ztane> I added Finnish there but it is now using US layout for it too
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: what's output of:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:47] <ztane> hmmhhm
[16:48] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: "No such file or directory" :/
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: lspci
[16:48] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: it seems like I still have 2 layers of input - I have 5 IME in the dropdown menu, but when i change using alt+super+space as configured in there, i see only 3... and yet then they are not consistent
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: might not have loaded propperly, try another reboot
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> relog*
[16:50] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: I couldent underestand what he said! http://notes.benv.junerules.com/blast-its-boost-slackware64-and-deluge-libtorrent-rasterbar/
[16:50] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: it shows up in lspci as '00:05:0 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev01)'
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: what command are you running to get that error?
[16:52] <HelloWorld321> I've been given a bunch of data files that don't have a linefeed at the end, but the library that reads them needs the linefeed.  How can I append a linefeed to "file*.dat" ?
[16:53] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: ~/Desktop/robomoon/rcssbase-12.1.3$ ./configure
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: can you run alsamixer   and see if it allows you to configure the audio
[16:53] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: nope
[16:54] <kriskropd> i tried alsamixer as user and sudo and both times received "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory"
[16:54] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: i have 5 imes in the dropdown menu, it shows FI always; when i switch by super+shift+space as configured in the settings - i can choose between 3 of these, but the icon always shows FI despite what IME is in use...
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: is alsa-utils installed?
[16:54] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: as if there are 2 layers of IBUS at the same time
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: that's a little bizarre
[16:55] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: yes, alsa-utils has been installed already
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you post the config.log
[16:55] <NotreDev> this is my host-only network interface for vmware: http://pastebin.com/9bY3GgDq / i'm trying to configure my ubuntu instance's /etc/network/interfaces for eth1 to have a static ip address, and stuck here http://pastebin.com/3A6Z6K8g
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: can you post you dmseg
[16:56] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/fJNc
[16:57] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371490/
[16:58] <Igor__> after update, i cleaned my old kernels via synaptic, and after that i couldnt boot. then earlier today i wrote here, and i got advice to boot from live usb, chroot into my system, and then instal kernel. i did that, but with no success...i still cant boot
[17:00] <daftykins> Igor__: have you tried holding down shift on startup to select kernel?
[17:01] <Igor__> i can select kernel, and i have 3 kernels to choose (dont know how, because i deleted them via synaptic) but neither is working
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: what happens when you try to boot?
[17:01] <Igor__> just hangs on splash screen
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: try ./configure --with-boost-libdir=/usr/lib64
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: what video chip do you use?>
[17:02] <Igor__> AMD Radeon 7750
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: do you use the poprietary video driver?
[17:03] <Igor__> before i updated my ubuntu i removed all video drivers, and after reboot, i updated system, and after that i deleted old kernels (while there was no video driver at all)
[17:03] <Igor__> i was using proprietary drivers
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: try the boot option:   radeon.blacklist=1
[17:04] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: got new errors :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371527/
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: I don't recommend you use the fglrx anyway... terrible 2d acceleration :/
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> unless you're a gamer... don't use it
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> but even then you could game on the open source radeon driver
[17:04] <moorehead> I have made a modification to my local /etc/hosts file when I try to do host that.domain.com it shows me the External IP and not the one I configured in the /etc/hosts file.
[17:04] <moorehead> Is that intended behavior? is there a way to fix it
[17:04] <Igor__> hm i dont game on linux anyway...so you suggest open source driver?
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: indeed
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: what ubuntu version are you on?
[17:05] <Igor__> 12.04
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: and is this a laptop?
[17:05] <Igor__> no desktop
[17:05] <Igor__> amd based desktop, phenom II X4 965...so on...
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: alright, well start using the open source radeon driver, and if you realize that your desktop's fan is loud let me know...
[17:07] <Cepi> Hi all
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, When you removed those partitions did you run a sudo update-grub after?
[17:07] <Cepi> i have problem with skype
[17:07] <Cepi> i install him but wont start
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, Er kernels sorry
[17:07] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: the way I uninstalled fglrx (installed with apt-get) was sudo aptitude purge fglrx*
[17:07] <Igor__> no i did not
[17:07] <Igor__> #Ari_Yang yes something like that
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, If you don;t they still will show in the grub menu.
[17:08] <Igor__> #wilee-nilee but new one was added
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: what's the output of  dpkg -l | grep linux-image ?
[17:08] <Igor__> just a moment
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, In an update, you k now whats in the grub menu so I was just checking.
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> it will list what kernels you have installed
[17:09] <Igor__> i know, used that already but cant remember exatly
[17:09] <Igor__> there are 3 or 4 different kernels
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: sorry try ./configure --with-boost-libdir=/usr/lib
[17:09] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: so what's your problem?
[17:09] <Igor__> just a sec
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, If you do not fully remove the kernels they will still show and not be usable.
[17:10] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: :) thnaks
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: can you tell me which module was loaded for your sound device: lspci -k
[17:11] <Igor__> here i am again via laptop
[17:11] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: it results like ./configure
[17:11] <xentity1x> Hi, I have a somewhat urgent matter. I'm giving a presentation in an hour, and my laptop decided it doesn't want to output display to the projector anymore.
[17:11] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: configure: error: Could not link against boost_system !
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you give me the full output of ./configure
[17:12] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/ZUXe doesn't seem to really suggest which modue, or maybe I'm not reading it right
[17:12] <xentity1x> I'm running bumblebee, when I I go nvidia settings -display configuration, it says dfp-1 is disabled. Anyone know how I can enable it?
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: if you want the radeon driver... sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: seems it hasn't loaded a driver for it
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> oh and run sudo apt-get --purge fglrx* just in case
[17:13] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371593/
[17:13] <Igor__> yes but first i need to boot into my machine
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> 'k, good luck
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> afk
[17:13] <Igor__> where can i add boot parametars?
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: /etc/default/grub
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " line
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, tap shift if grub does not show at powering on and e for edit
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> e.g. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1"
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> then run sudo update-grub
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> (afk)
[17:15] <Igor__> thank you i going to try now
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, This for the addition ActionParsnip gave you?
[17:15] <xentity1x> I really need to get this figured out within 45 mins. Can someone please assist?
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you give me the output of: ls -l /usr/lib
[17:17] <Igor__> no
[17:19] <Atluxity> anyone know where I should look for the desktop wallpapers in the latest ubuntu?
[17:19] <Atluxity> they used to be in .gnome2
[17:20] <Igor__> i am noticing quite odd thing here... my latest two kernels where 3.5.0-41 and 42.... but when i chroot-ed and updated it, the new version that appears is 3.2.0-55
[17:20] <theadmin> Atluxity: /usr/share/backgrounds/
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> Atluxity, right click deskto-change background, you can make anything the image there though with a right click on it.
[17:20] <kriskropd> xentity1x: you should have 'nvidia-settings' or something, have oyu looked at that yet?
[17:20] <kriskropd> you*
[17:20] <xentity1x> kriskopd, yes
[17:21] <frog_> Atluxity: go to dash and type appearence. there you can change the background
[17:21] <xentity1x> kriskopd, Here's what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/zs2seYQ.png.
[17:21] <Atluxity> thanks theadmin
[17:22] <xentity1x> kriskopd, The dvi output to the projector is disabled, but I don;t know how to enable it.
[17:22] <theadmin> frog_: (s)he was looking for the actual pictures
[17:22] <Atluxity> wilee-nilee and frog_ : thats not what I asked
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> Atluxity, One never knows to be honest here if what one ask for is what they really want.
[17:23] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: yep :D
[17:23] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: well gotta debug it tomorrow
[17:23] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: atleast I have the icon...
[17:23] <Atluxity> wilee-nilee: I can see that :) ty for trying at least
[17:23] <kriskropd> xentity1x: does that DFP-1 item under GPU-0 conntain anything about neabling? and the dropdown in Layout that says "disabled", does it give any options?
[17:23] <frog_> theadmin: then did misunderstand her(him)
[17:23] <kriskropd> enabling*
[17:24] <xentity1x> kriskopd, one other option: seperate xscreen (requires xserver restart)
[17:24] <Igor__> #wilee-nilee i tried changing boot parameters, but no luck same thing, hangs on splash screen
[17:25] <Cepi> hello
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: have you installed the guest additions on the guest os?
[17:25] <Cepi> can some one help
[17:25] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: no not yet :/
[17:25] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371660/
[17:25] <Cepi>  i have problem with skype
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, YOu try nomodeset?
[17:25] <xentity1x> kriskrpod, but if i select it nothing happens
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: try that, it may contain the audio driver
[17:25] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll get to it in a bit and see
[17:26] <Cepi> i install, but cant start
[17:26] <Igor__> wait, just to be sure, i have to boot via live usb, and than find on hdd my original grub file, and than change there?
[17:26] <Cepi> skype
[17:26] <kriskropd> xentity1x: it says you would need to restart xorg, right? so you might need to log out and back in for it to work
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, from a live cd that would need a chroot
[17:26] <frog_> Cepi: how did you install it?
[17:27] <Cepi> From .deb and i try later form terminal
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: thats not the full list. sudo apt-get install pastebinit; ls -l /usr/lib | pastebinit
[17:27] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: are you expecting it to mirror or share a single desktop? i don't think you want a seperate xscreen, if I'm understanding correctly
[17:28] <kriskropd> sorry hitsujiTMO , I meant htat for xentity1
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, I have an appointment, however I can't tell what it is your trying to do and or the actual problem, I'm not sure anyone else can, you might detail this out.
[17:29] <Cepi> frog_ i cant start skype
[17:30] <xangua> Cepi: did you install skype from software center¿
[17:30] <Cepi> i start but dont have him in processes
[17:30] <frog_> Cepi: did you restart since you installed it
[17:30] <Cepi> i restart
[17:30] <xentity1x> i tried restarting whenver I switch it just goes back to being disabled
[17:30] <Igor__> #wilee-nilee thanks for your help
[17:30] <Cepi> and nothing, no i remove him
[17:31] <Igor__> il figured it out somehow i hope
[17:31] <jhutchins_wk> We have something strange going on with multipath.  When we pull a cable to test failover, I/O hangs for 255 seconds consistently.
[17:31] <kriskropd> xentity1x: it might not be saving your configuration when you close nvidia-settings
[17:31] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: thanks for healping
[17:32] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371694/
[17:32] <Cepi> frog_ i dont know what is a problem
[17:32] <kriskropd> xentity1x: are you using the default ubuntu unity environment?
[17:33] <kriskropd> xentity1x: there should be some display controls in the control panel, did you try any of those?
[17:33] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: sorry!
[17:33] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: that's it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371699/
[17:33] <Cepi> i install again but wont to start
[17:33] <blake> Is there a more in depth way of seeing which patches have been applied to installed packages?
[17:34] <yeyeman> give me tips for a good irc client
[17:34] <xangua> !irc | yeyeman
[17:34] <Razkin> Does shutting down a Ubuntu computer without using shutdown, like just, clicking the power button and shutting it down by force, harm or interrupt my distro?
[17:34] <Rory> yeyeman: xchat, weechat, pidgin are probably the three most popular
[17:34] <Rory> Razkin: Potentially yes
[17:34] <Razkin> how, Rory?
[17:35]  * blake loves xchat
[17:35] <Rory> Razkin: It can leave your filesystem in an inconsistent state if it was party-way through writing
[17:35]  * Razkin also loves xchat
[17:35] <Rory> Razkin: Why do you ask? You might as well use shutdown
[17:35]  * kriskropd is happy with irssi over ssh
[17:35] <Razkin> when my laptop runs out of distro
[17:35] <Razkin> it shuts down by force
[17:35] <Rory> Razkin: If you're asking because you did it once it won't be a huge issue, just best not to make a habit of it
[17:36] <Rory> Razkin: of battery?
[17:36] <Razkin> yes, battery
[17:36] <Razkin> sorry
[17:36] <Razkin> is this harmful
[17:36] <xentity1x> kriskropd, yeah im using unity. i tried display settings. not much there
[17:36] <Rory> Razkin: If you go to the power options in Ubuntu you should find an option to shut down the system when the battery is critically low
[17:36] <yeyeman> is pidgin a irc client??
[17:36] <xentity1x> kriskropd, i tried saving the changes to the xorg file. didnt seem to take
[17:36] <theadmin> yeyeman: It can be used as one, but isn't a good idea to do so, it doesn't support many IRC things.
[17:36] <Rory> yeyeman: It supports multiple protocols. It's quite simple as an IRC client but there are many in here who use it full-time with no problems
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> when amarok is playing a stream. how do i make it continue to play the next song? it reads the song title and gets lyrics. but it doesnt play
[17:37] <blake> I have looked at lsb-release and /etc/os-releas but for certain security compliance I need to see the patches added to versions of some of the packages.  Any idea how to get that information?
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> i have to press stop/play to make it work
[17:37] <Rory> blake: If you look at the page for the package on launchpad you can see the original package, and a diff with ubuntu patches I believe
[17:37] <yeyeman> well I'm currently using kvirc and it's the most bloated piece of crapware ever
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> im switching to amarok from rhythmbox because rhythmbox says i have to login to the .fm to play my own streams now
[17:37] <kriskropd> xentity1x: I don't know much about fancy display layouts or modifying them flexibly, but it seems like it shouldn't be that hard :/
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you try these 2 commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371729/    then try ./configure                again
[17:38] <xentity1x> kriskropd, yeah i know. Funny thing is its worked before. It just stopped suddenly
[17:38] <kriskropd> xentity1x: is there nowhere else in nvidia-settings that suggests how to enable DFP-1?
[17:38] <blake> Rory: thanks!  Does it make a difference how the packages were installed?
[17:38] <Rory> yeyeman: xchat is a powerful, relatively easy to use graphical client which has a lot of users and is well supported
[17:39] <Rory> blake: I am assuming they were installed from the repositories
[17:39] <blake> Rory: thanks... I'll look into it.
[17:41] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: takes no differense http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371745/
[17:41] <s_faraday> :(
[17:41] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... idk what i did to amarok. but it plays fine now
[17:42] <drake_> Hey i want to learn programming for device drivers on ubuntu
[17:42] <drake_> is there any good book??
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: actually it did make a difference: 1st error was Could not link against boost_system ! now its: Could not link against boost_filesystem !   :) so we're on the right track
[17:42] <ikonia> drake_: any kernel programming introduction book
[17:42] <drake_> Okay..
[17:42] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: :D
[17:43] <drake_> so there isn't any specific to ubuntu
[17:43] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: i'm tired it tooks me one hole day!
[17:43] <ikonia> drake_: ubuntu uses the linux kernel....
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: 2 secs
[17:43] <drake_> okay gotcha
[17:43] <drake_> ikonia: thanks
[17:43] <ikonia> drake_: perhaps a basic level of understanding of how the operating system works, would be a better time investment before you consider trying to write "driver" for it
[17:44] <Rory> drake_: This book is often referenced [ http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ ] but you have to be an extremely competant user-space programmer already
[17:44] <bekks> drake_: just for the logs, there is a kernel driver cookbook.
[17:44] <charge> hey guys a have a problem with xubuntu 13.10.
[17:44] <Igor__> here is my detailed problem. i am runing ubuntu 12.04 with amd radeon 7750 graphic, and proprietary drivers from amd (not from repository), i wanted to update my system, but as i already had a lot of problems, first i removed all fglrx drivers from ubuntu, rebooted, and then let update do his thing. after that, my kernel moved from version 3.5.0-41 to 3.5.0-42, and after reboot i removed my...
[17:44] <Igor__> ...old kernel (41) via synaptic manager...after that i cant boot my system... earlier today, one member told me to boot from live usb, and chroot to my system, and than install kernel, i did that by following this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels   and all it happened, is that new kernel (3.2.0-55) appears in...
[17:44] <Igor__> ...'Previous linux version' grub option. Cant give more detailed explanation than this...thank you
[17:44] <FloodBot1> Igor__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <drake_> okay.. well luckily i have this subject in my semester
[17:45] <Rory> drake_: Basically, don't try to run before you can walk :)
[17:45] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: so, I mounted the guest addition dist and tried 'sudo /mnt/cdrom/runasroot.sh' and got some goofy message instead http://sprunge.us/QdOS
[17:45] <kriskropd> disk*
[17:46] <drake_> Rory: hahah.. i'll be careful
[17:46] <drake_> :)
[17:46] <Rory> kriskropd: That's not the file you want to run, it's called VBoxLinuxAdditions or similar
[17:46] <blake> Rory: export OUT=`dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ print $1 }' -`;for A in $OUT;do dpkg -l $A >> mypkgs.txt; done
[17:46] <Rory> kriskropd: "runasroot.sh" is just *used* by that program for some part of its functionality
[17:46] <kriskropd> Rory: ah, oops
[17:46] <Igor__> here is my detailed problem. i am runing ubuntu 12.04 with amd radeon 7750 graphic, and proprietary drivers from amd (not from repository), i wanted to update my system, but as i already had a lot of problems, first i removed all fglrx drivers from ubuntu, rebooted, and then let update do his thing. after that, my kernel moved from version 3.5.0-41 to 3.5.0-42, and after reboot i removed my...
[17:46] <Igor__> ...old kernel (41) via synaptic manager...after that i cant boot my system... earlier today, one member told me to boot from live usb, and chroot to my system, and than install kernel, i did that by following this tutorial http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371774/   and all it happened, is that new kernel (3.2.0-55) appears in 'Previous linux version' grub option. Cant give more detailed explanation...
[17:46] <Igor__> ...than this...thank you
[17:46] <FloodBot1> Igor__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <kriskropd> Rory: I see, thanks
[17:47] <charge> why the sound plugin in xubuntu 13.10 doesnt work ?
[17:47] <Rory> Igor__: You say you can't boot your system, what happens when you try?
[17:47] <kriskropd> Rory: I'm not sure how I missed that, must've blended in with allt he other .exe files included
[17:47] <Rory> !xubuntu | charge
[17:48] <Igor__> just hangs on splash screen
[17:49] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: instlaling guest additions dind't seem to help the audio drivr situation at all
[17:50] <kriskropd> wow typoes ._.
[17:50] <charge> btw can any1 redirect me to the linux mint chat also ?
[17:50] <Rory> !mint | charge
[17:50] <charge> thank you Rory
[17:50] <Rory> !nomodeset | Igor__ might be worth trying this before anything more complicated
[17:50] <Rory> I'm like the bot master tonight
[17:53] <daftykins> Rory: just don't go abusing ubottu now ;)
[17:53] <Igor__> #ubottu there is nomodeset parametar in my grub for new kernel
[17:53] <Rory> Igor__: ubottu is a bot, I am the human
[17:53] <Igor__> #Rory sorry
[17:54] <suyash1629> can any one please help me.. i was working on android sources but because of getting problems in ubuntu, i backuped the source codes and reinstalled the ubuntu. i backuped the source code to my external hardisk which was FAT32 system and i once mistakely connected it to windows too. Since i restored the source codes i m getting errors: fatal: unable to start /media/Stockage/source/.repo/repo/main.py fatal: [Errno 13] Permission den
[17:54] <Rory> Igor__: If you remove the "quiet" and "splash" parameters, and try booting, do you see any error?
[17:54] <theadmin> suyash1629: FAT can't into UNIX permissions. Tweak files which need to be executable so that they are: chmod +x filename
[17:54] <Igor__> leave with just nomodeset?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: now try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371800/   then ./configure
[17:55] <theadmin> suyash1629: Any scripts (.py, .sh, .pl, .rb, ...) will likely need that permission.
[17:55] <suyash1629> theadmin: there are lots of scripts, how can i change permissions of all of them
[17:56] <Igor__> #Rory it just logs in tty1 and says no caching mode page present
[17:56] <esde> i have a question about email, regarding DNS and A entries, where would be a good channel to seek information? #email seems to bedefunct
[17:56] <Rory> Igor__: Can you switch to a different console(TTY)?
[17:56] <esde> *be defunct
[17:56] <theadmin> suyash1629: eeeh. That'd be difficult. You can make the entire directory executable recursively: chmod -R +x /media/Stockage/source
[17:56] <theadmin> suyash1629: That may have negative side effects, but I don't see what kind to be honest.
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: restarted the vm and all?
[17:56] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: yeah, did nothing :/
[17:56] <Rory> esde: If you're setting it up on an Ubuntu machine, no harm in asking here.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: ok, once more try: alsactl init
[17:58] <suyash1629> theadmin: so what should i use in place of /media/Stockage/source my source codes are on User/android/system
[17:58] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: same error 'alsactl: init:1758: no soundcards found
[17:58] <Igor__> #Rory yes i can , this time he told me something about unknowsn parametar nomodeset
[17:58] <Igor__> unknown*
[17:58] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: done! I can't believe :D
[17:58] <theadmin> suyash1629: Ah, well, whatever directory they are in
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: :)
[17:58] <Rory> Igor__: Did you perhaps misspell nomodeset ?
[17:58] <esde> Nah, I moved my DNS from my old hosting provider to the registrar I purchased the domains from. Then I setup third-party email hosting. The third-party email host had me add an mx entry for their service. However, there are A records under the dns for email and webmail of my domain registrar. My third-party email host seems to think those A entries are necessary, but I can't see why. And their recommendation is to host DNS with them. I'm very confused.
[17:59] <Rory> !nomodeset | Igor__ follow these instructions very carefully
[17:59] <suyash1629> theadmin: ok well m trying that..
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[17:59] <esde> I'd like to remove the A entries and be done with it
[18:00] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: didn't spit out anything back in return
[18:00] <Igor__> #Rory no its not misspelled but i will try some other options shown on those instructions
[18:00] <Rory> esde: You'll need a DNS entry for the webmail because it's just a webpage; the fact it's something vaguely to do with email is irrelevant
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: lsmod | grep ^snd
[18:00] <Rory> esde: Without an A record for, (eg) webmail.esde.com how will your browser know where to go when you type that?
[18:01] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/eHER
[18:01] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: so why 'make' still has these errors again? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371858/
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: lspci -k   again
[18:02] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: same old :/
[18:02] <Chat7202> Hi guys
[18:02] <diminoten> upgrading the version of glibc isn't going to cause problems is it?
[18:02] <theadmin> diminoten: As long as the update comes from the repos.
[18:02] <diminoten> that's the problem