[00:34] <Iraqi> Q" After i installed ubuntu 10 on laptop Dell Vostro 1400 then done but bugs is working freeze? Why ? how can fix it ?
[05:05] <hyperactivecrond> is it possible for the alternate installer to start an SSH daemon so one can do a remote installation?
[06:03] <pish> Hi, is it possible to install some kind of "minimal" gnome in a ubuntu server in order to have a lighter desktop than xubuntu?
[06:04] <MTecknology> pish: why do you want a gui on a server?
[06:05] <pish> MTecknology, I'd like a "light" desktop server for development purposes in an old machine (P3/512MB)
[06:06] <MTecknology> pish: oh..
[06:06] <MTecknology> pish: xfce is lighter than gnome - If you want light then check out openbox
[06:07] <pish> MTecknology, ok thanks. Which one is the distro for ubuntu+openbox? is it lubuntu(lxde)?
[06:08] <MTecknology> pish: get the ubuntu alternate cd - install just the Command Line system - I think you press F4 at the boot screen to get that - then aptitude install openbox
[06:08] <MTecknology> pish: warning though - light does not mean easy to learn :)
[06:10] <pish> MTecknology, ok, I'll consider that. Thanks for your tips.
[06:10] <MTecknology> np - enjoy
[06:10] <MTecknology> pish: btw - openbox is what I use every day
[06:10] <MTecknology> you might also want openbox-themes, obmenu, and obconf
[06:13] <pish> MTecknology, in an existing Ubuntu Desktop installation, could I install openbox packages just for testing and then remove them and be back to gnome?
[06:15] <MTecknology> pish: yup
[06:15] <MTecknology> pish: aptitude install openbox :)
[06:16] <pish> MTecknology, great. I'll try it right now. Thanks a lot again.
[06:32] <s_mark> does anyone know how to limit incomming connections speed based on IP address? e.g. limit each ip max to 1MB/s. Would linux tc do the job, if so how?
[08:32] <SpamHotel> Anybody else in Prague?
[08:34] <soren> SpamapS: Oh, I'm sure they didn't evacuate the city because you came. :)
[10:10] <ivo_> Hi, is there a way to make snapshot on a md volume? and is there a way to run fsck on a mounted filesystem?
[10:11] <cwillu_at_work> ivo_, depends on the filesystem, but generally no, and md doesn't support snapshots afaik (you need lvm, or a filesystem  that has it built in for that)
[10:11] <ivo_> :(
[10:12] <ivo_> damn I should have sticked with opensolaris
[10:12] <ivo_> how else can I be sure my data is ok
[10:12] <ivo_> if I have to take my system down
[10:12] <ivo_> only to fsck the filesystems
[10:12] <ivo_> this is a lot of downtime
[10:18] <cwillu_at_work> btrfs has checksumming, and will probably be suitable for cautious production use soon
[10:19] <cwillu_at_work> fsck generally isn't concerned with data corruption, only metadata corruption though
[12:41] <SandGorgon> anyone using mysql with a SA-SCSI 10K drive on Ubuntu ? Any performance issues, driver problems, etc ?
[13:12] <Jeeves_> SandGorgon: I wouldn't expect those problems, actually.
[13:14] <VeeCount> hiall! Has anyone got an experience run func/certmaster/opensymbolic on Ubuntu Server?
[13:16] <VeeCount> tried google and lots of other stuff, but nothin seemed to be helpful
[13:16] <VeeCount> has anyone got hte clue?
[13:20] <Jeeves_> VeeCount: What's that?
[13:23] <VeeCount> func stands for Fedora Unified Network Controller
[13:24] <VeeCount> it's some kinda handy tool to manage lots of nodes on yur lan
[13:25] <Jeeves_> VeeCount: hmm, never heard of it
[13:26] <VeeCount> actually the idea was as follows, i've got about a dozen old machines and wanted to make them work as a cluster
[13:26] <VeeCount> looked into some solutions likkerrighed, cfengine and so on to automate the processes
[13:27] <VeeCount> recently i've come upon opensymbolic and it seemed to be the solution, but the manuals are very poor
[13:27] <qman__> VeeCount, have you looked at UEC?
[13:27] <VeeCount> nope
[13:27] <VeeCount> what's that?
[13:28] <qman__> Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud
[13:28] <qman__> see if it meets your requirements, since it's going to be way easier to install on ubuntu than anything else would be
[13:28] <VeeCount> oh yes, sure, but the community frightened me saying that this solution is rather heavy
[13:29] <qman__> well, it depends on what you want to run
[13:29] <VeeCount> the other issue that i have to keep in mind that the nodes are diskless///
[13:29] <qman__> UEC works well for VMs from what I gather, but if you just want to run a bunch of threads, might want to go with something more like a beowulf cluster
[13:32] <VeeCount> thanks qman__ i'll look into that
[13:33] <qman__> I don't know about any of the tools you listed, but it would certainly be possible to set up a PXE boot image for beowulf cluster nodes
[13:33] <qman__> I'm guessing those tools are supposed to simplify the process
[13:34] <VeeCount> yup, i have no trouble setting the pxe-boot
[13:35] <VeeCount> using nfs and tftp
[13:37] <qman__> that area is pretty tough to search on, you have to cut through all the buzzwords and advertisements for real info
[13:37] <VeeCount> the machines are running fine, the thing i want to do is to consume their resources atogether to run a single VM
[13:37] <qman__> but yeah, it basically comes down to exactly what you want to do
[13:38] <qman__> a single VM? that's not really possible with anything I know of
[13:38] <VeeCount> google showed me such an exaple using xen
[13:38] <VeeCount> but it didn't seem to be very handy
[13:39] <VeeCount> i've tried out mpich, but the procecces im using are not very good parallelized
[13:39] <qman__> you can distribute threads pretty easily, but running a VM across multiple machines has a lot of issues, especially regarding network latency
[13:40] <VeeCount> could you plaese clarify about distributing threads?
[13:41] <qman__> in a beowulf style cluster, you set up all the nodes to share threads
[13:41] <qman__> they share an NFS drive and balance processes across the hardware on your cluster
[13:41] <VeeCount> okay then, what tools should i look into for balancing processes?
[13:42] <qman__> but any one process can only exist on one machine at a time
[13:42] <qman__> so if your application doesn't have multiple processes, it won't really give you any advantage
[13:42] <qman__> it behaves much like a machine with lots of processors in it
[13:42] <qman__> but with more lag because of the network
[13:44] <VeeCount> im still working on threading my app, but behaving like a machine with lots of processor is quite suitable
[13:44] <VeeCount> actually perhaps is the decision im looking for
[13:44] <VeeCount> still int search for the tools
[13:45] <qman__> I've been looking but I can't seem to find one that's very ubuntu centric
[13:45] <qman__> I did a few years ago, but that's not much use now
[13:46] <VeeCount> if you're still interested, i can point on Kerrighed, but unfortunately it's not very stable
[13:47] <VeeCount> and the common problem i face is that when a single node crashes the whole process goes down, and no batch query tools are helpful
[13:53] <qman__> everything that looks promising turns up missing
[13:55] <qman__> this is the most useful thing I've found so far: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/beowulf-cluster-on-ubuntu-10-04-a-818999/#post4029508
[14:00] <VeeCount> thanks again qman__, i've looked into it, but still it's mpich, at the moment i'm about to try UEC, greatful for your advise
[14:00] <VeeCount> bye
[14:00] <qman__> good luck
[15:02] <VeeCount> hi!
[15:03] <VeeCount> qman__: I looked into UEC, and they say that Eucalyptus nodes are disk-intensive; I/O wait will likely be the performance bottleneck
[15:04] <VeeCount> so what do you think will it work on a diskless node?
[15:05] <discordianfish> hi
[15:06] <VeeCount> hi, discordianfish
[15:06] <discordianfish> i'm glad that i found a ubuntu server install cd but now i wonder: can i use it for network install too? looks like i can't change the package source to network or something like that :/
[15:07] <discordianfish> i bet this it possible somehow
[15:07] <pickles> during install of lucid server, the virtual michine task installs KVM, right?
[15:07] <pickles> not Xen host (dom0)?
[15:08] <VeeCount> discordianfish: i've come upon http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/11/how-to-configure-pxe-network-booting-on-ubuntu-for-network-based-installations/ will it be helpful?
[15:09] <discordianfish> VeeCount: i just want to use the network as package source. that has nothing to do with pxe booting
[15:10] <discordianfish> guess than i'll just use debootstrap again
[15:12] <VeeCount> okay, so has anyone a clue on setting up UEC on diskless nodes
[16:30] <papertigers> growing my raid +1TB :) oh how I love ubuntu server and mdadm
[16:48] <ubuntuweaving> hi to all
[16:48] <ubuntuweaving> im newbie in ubuntu server
[16:48] <ubuntuweaving> please help
[16:49] <ubuntuweaving> when i try to browse my website is says access denied
[16:49] <ubuntuweaving> how to troubleshoot it?
[16:50] <ubuntuweaving> anyone pls
[16:55] <ubuntuweaving> anyone pls help me
[17:07] <ubuntuweaving> buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[17:53] <jaypur> how much performance do i get running a game server at ubuntu server instead running at ubuntu client???
[17:54] <jaypur> because, ubuntu client has to run graphic stuff right?
[18:54] <zermann> Hi,i have a machine with ubuntu 10.04 server. it has run well for 1 month, then when i reboot it halt just before booting ubuntu. it is not an hardware problem because with a live cd or another version of ubuntu (8.04) all run well. maybe is grub2 that halt the system? do you have any idea?
[18:56] <zermann> Today i reinstalled ubuntu 10.04, all was right untill i updated the kernel, maybe is thew new kernel? is there a way to know if this is the problem?
[19:05] <jpds> zermann: Boot into the old kernel?
[19:06] <zermann> jpds, it halt before grub2 display anything, is it possible that grub2 halt the system ?
[19:06] <jpds> Unlikely.
[19:06] <zermann> is there a log from grub2?
[19:07] <jpds> No.
[19:07] <jpds> What kind of machinen is it?
[19:07] <zermann> it is an AMD x2 4000
[19:09] <zermann> chipset nforce 405
[20:22] <tapas_> Hi list I am having 2 webservers A--B on B a website is accessible as http://localhost:9090/portal from internet I want that to be accessible on my public domain name as www.mydomain.com/site so on A I have following vhost configuration http://pastebin.com/c1rb2C0r and on B I have following http://pastebin.com/PfZDxyYT
[20:22] <tapas_> some how HTML is broken
[20:22] <tapas_> please see if at A ProxyHTMLURlmap I used correctly
[20:24] <tapas_> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 with KVM
[20:46] <tapas_> \q
[20:46] <tapas_> exit
[21:25] <zermann> hi, it is possible that ubuntu 10.04 server do not boot if system clock is set some hours earlier?
[21:28] <zermann> One more question, when i log in i get this stat:  Memory usage: 0%  but, if i see 'free -m'  : -/+ buffers/cache: 380  3517. How is this possible?
[21:28] <pmatulis> zermann: i hope not, why?
[21:29] <zermann> pmatulis, it is a week that my system halt at boot start
[21:29] <zermann> but sometime is all ok
[21:29] <pmatulis> zermann: ok, but why do you mention the clock?
[21:30] <zermann> because when it doesn't boot i saw the clock 2 hours in the past
[21:30] <zermann> maybe is a battery problem but, the system do not boot
[21:30] <pmatulis> zermann: how many times did you see this happening?
[21:31] <zermann> every two or three days
[21:32] <zermann> i notice that because in the past two week there as been storm near my house so i had to halt and unplug the system
[21:32] <zermann> storms
[21:32] <zermann> sorry for my poor english
[21:39] <pmatulis> zermann: could set the right time and reboot a few times and then put a bad time, reboot, and see what happens?
[21:40] <pmatulis> zermann: i hope you are not proven right  :-)
[21:45] <zermann> pmatulis, i just done that 5 minutes ago, it is not the problem i was wrong.
[21:45] <Jeeves_Moss> I'm having an issue with sending e-mail through my posfix/dovecot system from my WM5 device.  I can get my mail over TLS, but I get a failure when I try to send.  I've seen losts of posts of the same problem, but no one has seemed to be able to fix it
[21:47] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: i guess wm5 device does not follow the smtp standards
[21:47] <Jeeves_Moss> pmatulis, is there a work around?  I REALLY need to be abe to send from my PPC
[21:48] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: you will need to increase logging level on smtp listener (master.cf) and post some logs
[21:48] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: when the device tries to send
[21:49] <Jeeves_Moss> pmatulis, where in the master.cf file do I change the log level?
[21:50] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: you may actually need to increase verbosity of the tls/sasl component.  are you using saslauthd?
[21:51] <Jeeves_Moss> I think I am
[21:51] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: see if you can start it in debug mode (-d maybe)
[21:51] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: should say in man page
[21:52] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: you should also determine if you can send w/o TLS
[21:52] <Jeeves_Moss> ok, one sec.  I just have to finish this phone call
[21:52] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: maybe it's a more basic problem (SMTP)
[21:53] <pmatulis> Jeeves_Moss: regardless, the logs should tell you what's up
[21:58] <SandGorgon> hey.. have you guys ever used the pure-python Lamson mail server ? I was actually hoping someone who had used it - it seems orders of magnitude simpler than anything else
[22:06] <Jeeves_Moss> pmatulis, ok, sorry, Fiance on the phone.  better not hang up on here or my life is over.  LOL  Bridezilla attacks!
[22:50] <arrrghhh> hey, does anyone use rtorrent in here?
[23:21] <metalfan__> hi
[23:22] <metalfan__> ive got a ubuntu server installation and messed a up dm-crypt experiment, now i cant skip the password question for the drive at boot. its say that i should be able to press S to skip that part, but neither s nor S did work
[23:22] <metalfan__> its always trying to input a password
[23:23] <metalfan__> is there a way to boot linux without mounting some partitions?  ive tried "single" but the problem still persists