[06:23] <poz> /dev/sda2 on /host type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[06:23] <theadmin> poz: There it is, it's in /host
[06:23] <sasank> where can i get gcc suite
[06:23] <iceroot> !repos | sasank
[06:24] <theadmin> sasank: in APT. You were told A THOUSAND OF GODDAMN TIMES
[06:24] <theadmin> Gosh, this is so annoying >.<
[06:24] <theadmin> Offtopic and silly
[06:24] <poz> omg yes!
[06:24] <poz> thanks theadmin!!!
[06:24] <Peddy> theadmin is the best person
[06:24] <ganimede> poz from a console type "locate System32" if it is indexed, will tell you where the partition is mounted (2 levels above)
[06:25] <poz> i found it ganimede. thank you though!
[06:25] <theadmin> Peddy: I ain't, I'm one of the most awful people I know :D
[06:25] <poz> you can be very mean..
[06:25] <sasank> in gsc suite ,can i run c++ programs
[06:25] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: I was looking at the command you gave me, it looks like it is creating some kind of vmdk?
[06:25] <Peddy> theadmin, and humble as well! Truly an ambassador for the Ubuntu community.
[06:25] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: if i wanted to install another desktop enviornment i'd probably just intall OpenSUSE since it makse it so darn simple
[06:25] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: i got the Nvidia drivers istalled
[06:26] <dr_willis> ntfs here is shown using the fuseblk filesystem . not ntfs-3g
[06:26] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: That vmdk (actually, it creates a vdi, I have no idea why it's called "createrawVMDK" >.<) is some sort of a "link" to a real drive
[06:26] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: i can disable unity?
[06:26] <Peddy> Is anyone on 11.10 having issues with the "devices" area disappearing from Nautilus pane?
[06:26] <sasank> ok i found g++ version ,can i run c++ programs here
[06:26] <theadmin> sasank: You can...
[06:26] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: There's definitely a way to just use gnome, but I don't remember how for 11.10.  I'm still on 11.04
[06:27] <somsip> !nounity | goddard
[06:27] <theadmin> Peddy: I ain't humble... I'm crazy... You can PM me if you want to find out more about me :D
[06:27] <sasank> in this it does'nt show run command
[06:27] <ganimede> sasank you may compile them, like g++ myprogram.cpp -o myprogram
[06:27] <cpgo> theadmin, thanks, I found libxft2 and xfstt. Do you know if there are others?
[06:27] <theadmin> sasank: g++ something.cpp -o something.out
[06:27] <ganimede> sasank then run myprogram
[06:27] <theadmin> cpgo: No, unfortunately, sorry
[06:28] <dr_willis> !compile | sasank
[06:28] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: cool!  Do you remember where you got that from and/or what versions of VirtualBox it works with properly?  I'm just paranoid about breaking my systems by messing it up
[06:28] <cpgo> theadmin, ok np, thanks for your time
[06:28] <sasank> whwt is the use of g++
[06:28] <cpgo> compile your code
[06:28] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: All versions starting with 3.x if I recall right, and I got that from the VirtualBox manual :D
[06:28] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: so basically your screwed that is how much Unity is broken?
[06:29] <ganimede> sasank it transform a text file in format cpp source code into a machine code, that your computer may eventually execute
[06:30] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: sweet!  going to try it right now.  One last thing tho, how do I know which number partition(s) to point it to?  I know that windows has some system reserved partition, and then some programs start numbering partitions at 0 and some at 1...
[06:30] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: vbox numbers starting with 0 iirc
[06:30] <ganimede> sasank but if you have such questions, maybe you need to read a good book first. start with C, kernighan/ritchie 'the c programming language second edition'
[06:30] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: not exactly, its just that it takes a fair amount of graphics processing I think.
[06:30] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Not so sure though, let me look it up
[06:31] <sasank> if a text written in g++,how can we delete,where it does'nt happen by pressin backspce key
[06:31] <iceroot> ganimede: that book is from bjarne stroustroup (imo)
[06:31] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: and did you see the ubottu message somsip sent you?
[06:31] <somsip> goddard: nah - just install another WM/DE if you don't like unity. Current score is about 48% keep it, 52% use something else
[06:31] <iceroot> ganimede: the founder of c++
[06:31] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: See section 9.8.1 of the VirtualBox User Manual, "Using a raw host hard disk from a guest"
[06:31] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: you're my hero :)
[06:32] <ganimede> iceroot c++ yes, but seems far too advanced for him
[06:32]  * theadmin gets too many undeserved compliments today
[06:32] <ganimede> iceroot, i have suggested c not c++
[06:32] <node11> hi
[06:32] <iceroot> ganimede: ah sorry you are right
[06:32] <dr_willis> it pays to readthe vbox docs.. ad warnings about doing that trick JokesOnYou77
[06:32]  * cpgo takes back ty's for theadmin
[06:32] <poz> who is theadmin?
[06:33] <cpgo> you know that guy from harry potter whos name they cant say
[06:33] <ganimede> the kernighan-ritchie is more a guide for newcomers, the stroustroup will lose him from chapter 1 with templates and other things. and he never mentions how to compile, btw :D
[06:33] <cpgo> yea, thats him
[06:33]  * theadmin is not a guy at all :P
[06:33] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis: warnings? and which trick?  I
[06:33] <poz> lol
[06:33] <poz> theadmin, what is your age?
[06:33] <cpgo> neither is harry potter, but I get offtopic :P
[06:33] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  using vbox to boot/access a real physical disk
[06:34] <jobud9> this be the ubuntu help channel?
[06:34] <theadmin> poz: Um, this is too private to discuss in the channel. PM me.
[06:34] <theadmin> jobud9: Yes.
[06:34] <poz> this is a help channel?!
[06:34] <nopf> 11.10 standard install (via wubi) ... may i select 'classic ubuntu' or such? and without a mouse?
[06:34] <poz> i thought it was just a place to talk about ubuntu stuff
[06:35] <cpgo> poz try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[06:35] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis: I've read the section of the ducumentation before, but at the time it was a bit over my head, and there was a 4.xx version of VBox that broke this utility and I wasn't particualrly satisfied with what I had heard on the forums for it.  And more importantly, what warnings would you add?
[06:35] <poz> oh
[06:35] <ganimede> nopf try with tabs, spaces and enters. i dont have a virtual partition at hand to try an install right now
[06:36] <nopf> ganimede: oh thanks, that was easy :) ... tab, then space, let me select ubuntu 2d. thanks
[06:36] <ganimede> poz it should be in my opinion, but quickly people that need things ask the community
[06:36] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  last i read the manual they basically said using vbox to access a real physical drive could result in data loss.. i think they even had it in big bold letters.. it was not advised to use that feature
[06:36] <jobud9> well then, I am looking at my half installed copy of ubuntu server, and it is asking me to insert disk labeled "Ubuntu-Server 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20110719.2)" where do I get this file?
[06:36] <pransala1> hi guys. byoby seems to keep crashing on me which is.. highly annoying. where would its logs go so i can see why?
[06:36] <theadmin> dr_willis: It always worked without any trouble for me, but data gets very corrupted if you attempt booting the OS which is the host OS
[06:37] <ganimede> a new kernel just landed
[06:37] <poz> oh ok
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> is ubu10 better than 11?
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> 11 wouldnt install for me
[06:37] <ganimede> may need to reboot in a few second
[06:37] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis: now I remember why I didn't try it before! lol
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> oh, i was trying ubuntu alternate
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> what does that mean
[06:37] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: out of curiosity, have you tried running from a raw partition before?
[06:37] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  ive only used it i special rescue cases ;)
[06:37] <nopf> ganimede: hm, this is ubuntu2d only, not classic... better than nothing though
[06:37] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: As stated above: It always worked without any trouble for me, but data gets very corrupted if you attempt booting the OS which is the host OS
[06:38] <poz> i have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...
[06:39] <sasank> i have written a c++ program in g++,where i cannot run ,how can i run my program.there are only file,editview,terminal,help options
[06:39] <theadmin> sasank: g++ file.cpp -o file.out
[06:40] <sasank> wher  can i write this statement
[06:40] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: so I just need to be very careful about what a point to where when creating the .vdi.  To your knowledge, is there any danger to accessing data on a shared partition with both the VirtualOS and the host?
[06:41] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: umm that requires co-ordination
[06:41] <ganimede> back, new kernel up and running
[06:41] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Again, on the host the partition MUST BE UNMOUNTED before it will work in Virtualbox (otherwise it fires an error saying something about "Drive not ready"
[06:41] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77: vbox has a share feature.  for shareing a directory. ;)
[06:41] <nevyn> so vmware has support for a host filesystem thingy (it looks like a network filesystem to the guest)
[06:42] <poz> i have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...
[06:42] <dr_willis> !terminal
[06:43] <JokesOnYou77> The thing is, I use a shared partition, /data (primary NTFS partition) and that's where I keep all of my files, and Virtualizing my Win7 partition won't be particularly useful if I can't get to any of my files without breaking something
[06:43] <sasank> i have written (g++ file.cpp -0 file out),wher my program does'nt run even ,how can i execte my program
[06:44] <jobud9> again, I am looking at my half installed copy of ubuntu server, and it is asking me to insert disk labeled "Ubuntu-Server 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20110719.2)" where do I get this file?
[06:45] <poz> i have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...
[06:45] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: insert the cd ?
[06:45] <cpgo> sorry to bug you again theadmin, could libcairo have a hand in it?
[06:45] <theadmin> cpgo: Not sure
[06:45] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: I got it working I think.
[06:45] <ganimede> sasank read the kernighan ritchie. anyway it is -o (o for output) not -0 (zero), and what follows is the name of the output file, without spaces between file and out, and you may remove the out part completely on unix/linux
[06:46] <poz> should i just leave? it seems like everyone else has real problems where i just want to learn about how to do stuff
[06:46] <JokesOnYou77> poz: you should stay!  The more you stick around, the more opportunity you have to learn
[06:46] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: !!!!! Pleaze post a tutorial somewhere!
[06:46] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: it's asking for the install cd
[06:47] <ganimede> sasank, you are welcome, but trying to do things that need more time and knowledge to be mastered than a quick fix on a chat
[06:47] <JokesOnYou77> nevyn: I think you're being a little over-zelous with your tab-completion
[06:47] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: oops. sorry
[06:47] <sasank> i feel confusin while readin books
[06:47] <jobud9> my install cd is in the drive
[06:47] <nevyn> jobud9: it's asking for the install cd
[06:48] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: yea I got it working, want to see my  Xorg ?
[06:48] <jobud9> @nevyn if you mean the cd I placed in the drive in the first place, it is there, unless I missed somthing
[06:48] <ganimede> sasank ok, open a private and i will try to guide you
[06:48] <w30> poz, #ubuntu-beginners might give you a slower pace on irc. join that also and switch back and forth.
[06:49] <poz> thanks w38
[06:49] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: hold on brb switching to xchat.
[06:49] <JokesOnYou77> w30: there's a beginners channel??? wow...
[06:49] <poz> lol sadly none of the beginners know how to find it :P
[06:49] <sasank> while readin programs ,i cannot solve dobts
[06:50] <ganimede> wow, interesting, didnt know about that other channel. i may have jumped the gun
[06:50] <jobud9> where is the install cd?!?!?
[06:50] <ganimede> on your desk
[06:52] <sasank> in linux, how can increase my download speed
[06:52]  * w30 goes off to join #ubuntu-going-to-bed-channel
[06:52] <jobud9> seriously, where is this iso?
[06:52] <ganimede> sasank it is already at the maximum, unlike windows
[06:53] <sasank> how can i run my program in g++ version directl
[06:53] <ganimede> jubud9 if you have downloaded it from www.ubuntu.com you should know, otherwise you can get it there
[06:54] <jobud9> it does not make sense! I have downloaded the disk, and the disk is in the drive! but it is still rejecting the disk
[06:54] <ganimede> sasank pvt me for that
[06:54] <ganimede> have you written a cd using that .iso?
[06:55] <sasank> i have downloded a linux.sh file ,is it a software file
[06:55] <dsnyders> HI all!  What's the best way to ensure that the folder on my home theatre device has the same files as my download folder?  I don't want to overwrite files if they're already there.
[06:55] <goddard> somsip: i like unity what I dont like is the fact it lags
[06:55] <nopf> hm. i had wubi-install, made extra partition, copied everything there, did update-grub2, grub-install /dev/sda, *found* "ubuntu ... /dev/sda7" (the new partition) in grub menu. still i'm in the old (and slow?) wubi system. how to change?
[06:55] <somsip> somsip: I suggested a solution
[06:55] <somsip> goddard: I suggested a solution
[06:55] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: im trying to find a fix to this situation... i have a good graphics processor so I doubt thats the problem
[06:56] <dsnyders> sasank, It is a shell script, most likely.
[06:56] <goddard> somsip: no one is questioning that
[06:56] <cantfixthis> peanut butter
[06:57] <somsip> goddard: then I leave you to chat amongst yourself
[06:57] <sasank> can i run and write my programs in this linux.sh file
[06:57] <cantfixthis> i need help
[06:57] <ganimede> sasank, from the shell type "cat linux.sh | less" the first lines are normally explanatory comments
[06:57] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: and the drivers didn't help?
[06:58] <sasank> can it work in offline mode
[06:58] <cantfixthis> i am trying to undo changes does ubuntu have an undo function like windows system restore
[06:59] <ganimede> dunno what it does and cant find my crystal ball
[06:59] <dsnyders> cantfixthis, I think there is something you can add that will do that, but I don't think it's there by default
[06:59] <cantfixthis> what is it called?
[07:00] <dsnyders> !backup
[07:00] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: yep no help
[07:00] <sasank> what can i do in linux.sh file
[07:00] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: even tweaked the settings to put it on max performance instead of adaptive
[07:00] <cantfixthis> omg i have to read!!??
[07:00] <cantfixthis> grrr
[07:00] <ganimede> i dont have that file, sasank
[07:01] <cantfixthis> i just want apps i can install and click next next next done
[07:01] <tightwork> apt-get install proftpd ... do you want to run inetd? yes. ... start service, fail .. check logs, nothing
[07:02] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: beyond switching to pure gnome, I'm not really sure what to tell you.  One other good diagnostic would be to try a liveCD and see if that gives you the same problem
[07:02] <sasank> i have downloaded a linux.sh file,but i don't know what it's use,please tell me
[07:03] <dsnyders> sasank, what did you download it for?
[07:03] <ganimede> it is a virus, sasank, delete it
[07:03] <sasank> thanks
[07:04] <dsnyders> HI all!  What's the best way to ensure that the folder on my home theatre device has the same files as my download folder?  I don't want to overwrite files if they're already there.
[07:04] <sasank> while i was downloadi netbeans it asked me to download the linux.sh file
[07:04] <JokesOnYou77> Time to check out my new fstab, back in a bit folks!
[07:04] <dsnyders> Is this a job for rsync?
[07:04] <Techdude101> dsnyders: rsync -ruv
[07:05] <sasank> what is the site to get netbeans
[07:05] <dsnyders> Techdude101, Thanks, I'll give that a go...
[07:05] <tightwork> pretty cool ez ubuntu cant even get a ftp server going out of the box
[07:05] <tightwork> smoke more ron
[07:06] <zvention> hello, how do i remove the dash in 11.10?
[07:06] <tightwork> oh september
[07:07] <sasank> what is .net
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> A Microsoft coding thing
[07:08] <ganimede> a competitor of java, ported likewise java into the open community
[07:08] <sasank> what is .net
[07:08] <ganimede> it is a virtual machine that runs pcode
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> !.net
[07:08] <doc|home> anyone know if hard disk UUIDs change between distro versions? e.g. if I install from scratch? I'm expecting they don't
[07:09] <theadmin> doc|home: If you don't format stuff, then it doesn't
[07:09] <theadmin> doc|home: They're stored on the filesystem
[07:09] <theadmin> doc|home: Same for labels :D
[07:09] <doc|home> theadmin: how, in the FAT?
[07:09] <doc|home> theadmin: ok, great, thanks!
[07:09] <ganimede> in the partition table
[07:09]  * doc|home nods, made sense when he said same for labels
[07:09] <doc|home> thanks everyone
[07:10] <theadmin> doc|home: s/he/she/; :P
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> doc|home: good question, i believe not but you can always change fstab in liveCD if it does
[07:10] <doc|home> theadmin: it!
[07:10] <sasank> ok whwt is the use of linux.sh file
[07:11] <Techdude101> sasank: What folder is it in?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> sasank: sounds like a script, but file extensions don't mean much in Linux
[07:12]  * theadmin has finished setting up qingy... Finally a login manager that doesn't need X >.<
[07:13] <A_J> sweet theadmin
[07:13] <sasank> which is better os windows or linux
[07:13] <theadmin> sasank: Whichever works for you
[07:13] <doc|home> sasank: troll fail
[07:13] <theadmin> sasank: They are too different to compare
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> sasank: depends on needs
[07:14] <Ansikt> So, I was thinking of switching my secondary linuxes from Backtrack to Kubuntu, but I want to keep the injection-patched WLAN drivers.  Is it possible to just...copy the kernel modules from one distribution to another?
[07:14] <dsnyders> sasank, which is a better vehicle, a pickup or a sedan.
[07:14] <sasank> too difficult to compare
[07:14] <theadmin> Ansikt: Um, no, I don't think that'd work
[07:14] <tightwork> probably a pickup in the long run, when zombies take over the world
[07:15] <sasank> i need a editor to write programs,where can i get
[07:15] <tightwork> the store bro
[07:15] <tightwork> the store sells text editors
[07:15] <tightwork> ask for it by name
[07:15] <sam22> hail !! people of this channel !
[07:15] <sam22> o/
[07:15] <Ansikt> So, there's no way to copy drivers from one installation to another?  My understanding is that both are derivatives of Ubuntu.
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> sasank: try gedit   for a  coding IDE check the below
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[07:16] <Ansikt> sasank:  There's a whole bunch.  Check out the software-y thing that Ubuntu comes with,
[07:16] <tightwork> Ansikt: all drivers are generally packaged into the dist
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Ansikt:  could try it, its free to try
[07:16] <tightwork> maybe have to probe the module and add it to startup if its a addon card
[07:16] <A_J> sasank Windows Sucks Balls, get Linux
[07:17] <sasank> doe linux os provide any tool for writin and running programs
[07:17] <dsnyders> sasank, linux is not for the faint of heart.  It is for the people who like to take things apart and put them back together.  If you want a shiny, clickity-click experience, then stick with windows.  If you want to get a look at the workings behind the scene, then get linux.
[07:17] <Techdude101> Ansikt: You can download replacement drivers that support injection, trying to find the site now
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> A_j: not in all situations dude
[07:17] <tightwork> man y ou guys cant spot a troll?
[07:17] <Ansikt> tightwork:  Ubuntu provides a module for my card, it jsut doesn't do what I want.
[07:17] <tightwork> welcome to the Internet
[07:18] <sam22> dsnyders with the age of internet learning linux is easier than before. so the only thing he needs is time and patience
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> tightwork: feed til it pops
[07:18] <Ansikt> Techdude101:  The only thing I've found for my card are numerous patches scattered across the internet.  I'm a little bit scared of them, so I'd rather go with what I know works, if possible.
[07:18] <doc|home> sasank: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35h1vp/
[07:18] <doc|home> tightwork: ^
[07:18] <sam22> dsnyders most busy ppl don't have that
[07:18] <A_J> ActionParsnip well unless your playing games, unix all the way. windows starts freezing in about 18 hours. unix uptime 32 days \o/
[07:19] <ganimede> sasank, yes - you have emacs, codeblocks, anjuta, and some few hundred more
[07:19] <tightwork> doc|home: n1
[07:19] <Cyph3r> lol, nice meme, doc
[07:19] <dsnyders> sam22, exactly!  Speaking of which, I need to get up in less than 6 hrs, so goodnight folks!
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> A_j: i look after virtualized sql servers with at least a year uptime
[07:20] <Ansikt> For anyone interested (techdude101), I'm using Atheros' AR928X Card which uses ath9k as a driver
[07:20] <ganimede> but you should stick with microsoft and outlook, and thanks to that powerful tool, ask other people to do it
[07:20] <Techdude101> Ansikt: I think the patches might also be on the live(cd/dvd/usb) of backtrack
[07:21] <sasank> how can i retrieve a password when i have forgotten it , in windows
[07:21] <nrdb> what other than compiz is responsible for move windows on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:21] <naba> sasank, if you are new to programming on Linux, go for Anjuta - it will provide wizards to create much of the initial structures which will help you get started easier.
[07:22] <A_J> ActionParsnip interesting. what OS
[07:22] <Ngevd> Hello!
[07:22] <ganimede> you can replace the corresponding registry file with a known password. there are half a dozen tools that do it
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> sasank: there is a program you can use in ubuntu to wipe the local admin password. Its also on the ultimate boot cd
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> A_j: server 2003 64bit
[07:23] <sasank> how can i do it in windows
[07:23] <ganimede> you cannot. need to boot separately
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> sasank: ask in ##windows for windows support
[07:23] <tightwork> lol
[07:23] <nrdb> A_J, I look after a server (remotely) the only time I have reset it is for kernel updates... apart from a HDD failure about 4 months ago.
[07:24] <sasank> what is trouble shootin
[07:24] <A_J> nrdb, also windows i guess
[07:24] <A_J> ActionParsnip but does windows server have stuff like UNIX such as SSH / VNC
[07:24] <ganimede> nrdb why disk failure? where you using an disk-intensive server on it? normally linux doesnt stress the disks
[07:24] <nrdb> A_J, no ubuntu lts.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> sasank: www.howtogeek.com/howto/14369/change-or-reset-windows-password-from-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[07:24] <mysteriousdarren> yes
[07:25] <A_J> lol nrdb yes unix is awesome.
[07:25] <Ansikt> A_J, you mean RDP?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> A_j: just Sql and Rdp
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !info chntpw
[07:25] <nrdb> ganimede, it just failed... fortunatly it was in a raid 1 setup... it was a few years old.
[07:25] <A_J> hmm, ActionParsnip but what do you think unix is more powerful ?
[07:26] <nopf> how can i open a mp4 file with console-mplayer using the gui? that is, how to enter '/path/to/program' in 'open with' context menu?
[07:26] <ganimede> i have my 2 disks (ssd) in raid0... i am a bit worried
[07:26] <Techdude101> Ansikt: The patches come with aircrack-ng
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> A_j: in different situations each OS will shine. All our ESX boxes run ESX Linux.
[07:27] <sam22> how to remove the downloaded package list of apt-get ?
[07:27] <A_J> esx box ActionParsnip ?
[07:27] <A_J> sorry not familiar
[07:27] <sam22> sometimes they become so large they take harddisk space
[07:28] <sasank> where can i learn game programmin
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> nopf: could make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications to run: gnome-terminal vlc-nox %U    you'll need to verify syntax but it'll be something like that
[07:29] <theadmin> A_J: Here's a screenshot of Qingy in vbox for you :D :  http://i.imm.io/cPTb.png
[07:29] <nrdb> A_J, I agree with ActionParsnip.   In my opinion Windows should never be used for a server.
[07:29] <nopf> ActionParsnip: thanks, will try that time permitting :]
[07:30] <sam22> nrdb that's already been decided by the market if you look the market shares on running both linux and windows servers
[07:30] <A_J> oh thats nice. In my personal experince, windows non server editions are higly unstable
[07:30] <sam22> but windows server 2008 R2 i think kind of good
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> A_j: its a host to run VMs we have them in teams so if one box gets busy, the server computation is moved to one which is not so busy
[07:31] <sam22> without the price tag ofcourse
[07:31] <ganimede> the advantage of windows is that it pushes the users to change hardware regularly, hence favors the market economy :D
[07:31] <Ansikt> You know what I like about Windows?  Fuckin' powershell.
[07:31] <Ansikt> Also, thanks, Techdude101, you're right.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Ansikt: powershell is awesome
[07:32] <A_J> ActionParsnip very nice, your Database Admin I presume ?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> A_j: noc engineer
[07:32] <nrdb> sam22, one thing that annoys me is that the my university seems to think Windows is the only thing people use... asking for assignments in .doc format etc.
[07:32] <sasank> how can anyone become a comuter programmer
[07:33] <alex1> I need to copy about 20 folders, that contain a lot of hard links (rsnapshot backup directory) while preserving hard links. I've tryed "cp -a" to do this, but cp runs out of memory and gets oom killed.  Is there a better way to do that?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Nrdb: not pdf. Weird
[07:33] <ganimede> well, you may write them in texi then convert to html then import into word, in any case you can use openoffice
[07:33] <sam22> nrdb that will change if open office takes over but i don't think that will happen anytime son
[07:34] <nrdb> sam22, LibreOffice now ....
[07:34] <sasank> how can we operate a linux os in windows system
[07:35] <ganimede> you cant, but the other way round works. microsoft has given like 50k lines of code to the open source community to allow it
[07:35] <nrdb> sasank, a VM is the only way I know.
[07:36] <Lasivian> any suggestion for a FPS linux game?
[07:36] <sasank> what is vm
[07:36] <Atlantic777> Lasivian: nexuiz
[07:36] <Lasivian> thanks :)
[07:36] <Atlantic777> sasank: virtual machine, example: virtualbox
[07:37] <Atlantic777> !vm
[07:37] <Atlantic777> !VirtualBox | sasank
[07:37] <Ansikt> Alex1:  You could try using find to copy all regular files, and then use find again for all hard links, and copy with -l?  There's gotta be a better way, though.
[07:37] <sam22> sasank what are you trying to do with linux?
[07:38] <Ansikt> Lasivian:  UrbanTerror.  They're about to put out a new major release!
[07:38] <Lasivian> Ansikt: thanks
[07:39] <Lasivian> going on a long flight tomorrow, want something I can sit back with my controller and veg out in
[07:39] <nrdb> is there a good PCB design program, with circuit entry?
[07:39] <Atlantic777> nrdb: kicad
[07:39] <Atlantic777> nrdb: eagle
[07:39] <sasank> i alredy poses windows in my pc , butcan i run linux directly through or viceversa
[07:39] <Lasivian> Is there a linux version of Eagle?
[07:39] <Atlantic777> Lasivian: yes
[07:40] <Lasivian> I liked eagle at work, never tried it at home, hrrm
[07:40] <Braden`> Hello
[07:40] <Peddy> Ansikt, I just had a look at this chat, and I'm excited to hear UT has a new release coming out! It's been a while!
[07:40] <nrdb> Lasivian, yes.... but I am having trouble with it... it uses the <alt> button and the window manager is not allowing the <alt>click though to eagle.
[07:40] <Lasivian> sasank: You mean, can you run Linux inside Windows?
[07:40] <Braden`> I used sudo -s to gain root, and then I 'su'd o a different user, and typed "screen", but I get this message --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.
[07:40] <alex1> Ansikt: yeah, I guess I will try it out
[07:40] <Lasivian> nrdb: yeah, i've got some issues with that too....
[07:40] <sasank> yes
[07:41] <Peddy> Ansikt, do you have any more information on the release?
[07:41] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Oh yeah, I was just reading it on their blog the other day.  Improved graphics, new models for characters and guns, and it seems they're going to impliment dual wielding for the secondary weapons.
[07:41] <Atlantic777> Lasivian: there's a free (as in beer) version but with some limits for only 2 layers and size of PCB.
[07:41] <Lasivian> wonder if we can change Alt in Gnome to something else
[07:41] <nrdb> Lasivian, I have been trying to get the WM to use another key than <alt> but have been unsucsessful
[07:41] <Lasivian> FREE BEER?!?! WHERE??
[07:41] <Lasivian> ahem, pardon me...
[07:42]  * Lasivian coughs
[07:42] <nrdb> Lasivian, you could before 'unity'
[07:42] <sasank> is it possible
[07:42] <Peddy> Ansikt, those changes don't sound too major :/ it's been a few years though! Maybe they have some big surprises lined up
[07:42] <Lasivian> nrdb: oh, is Unity the new 11.X window setup?
[07:42] <ganimede> well, you can still disable unity and use another desktop, like the cube
[07:42] <Lasivian> i'm still on 10.04 long-term here
[07:43] <ganimede> and then you can reassign freely your keys
[07:43] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Well, it makes the game look quite a bit more modern, in any case.  Also a slew more handguns.  What would constitute a new "major version" to you?
[07:43] <dr_willis> cube is a desktop now? ;0
[07:43] <sasank> what is cloud computing
[07:43] <ganimede> sasank, go to the church
[07:43] <dr_willis> sasank:  wikipedia has definitions of that.
[07:43] <sam22> haha
[07:44] <sam22> the guy is indian
[07:44] <Atlantic777> !cloud | sasank
[07:44] <sam22> over 50% of the developers in microsoft are from asia
[07:44] <sasank> what is its concept
[07:44] <sam22> so give him a week
[07:44] <sam22> then see what he is capable of
[07:44] <Braden`> I used sudo -s to gain root, and then I 'su'd o a different user, and typed "screen", but I get this message --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.
[07:44] <Atlantic777> sasank: it's when you connect computers over network and make im work together. :D
[07:44] <ganimede> over 70% of the developers from any corporation are from asia, for cost reasons
[07:44] <ganimede> (internal or external)
[07:45] <sasank> does it means that commn flow in clouds
[07:45] <Braden`> This is true.  I am based in Asia managing Asian teams.
[07:45] <Peddy> Ansikt, ooh, new weapons! I guess my expectation would be something like physics improvements, or improvements to game mechanics. It just seems a bit behind other games even for its time, but perhaps that's a by design.
[07:45] <Atlantic777> sasank: what? :D
[07:45] <ganimede> braden, what do you want to do with root rights?
[07:45] <om26er> !test
[07:47] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Well, the graphics rendering engine looks a bit revamped, but I see what you mean - the physics feel much less real than Halo: Combat Evolved, and that came out in what, 2003?
[07:47] <poz> can any of those games be placed on ubuntu?
[07:48] <Braden`> ganimede:  I just want to be able to launch screen sessions after I 'su'
[07:48] <nrdb> Lasivian, yes... so far not impressed.
[07:48] <Atlantic777> poz: which games? Urban Terror? Shure it can!
[07:49] <nrdb> Lasivian, seems to much configuration simplification ... not even sure how to control user groups from the gui.
[07:50] <poz> how about diablo 3 when it comes out?
[07:50] <ganimede> should work without admin rights, but you can do "sudo screen"
[07:50] <Peddy> Ansikt, I'm glad to hear - I used to play Sauerbraten and Urbanterror, and the former had one of the most amazing engines I've used. I'm not sure why they haven't focussed on those things, it would be even easier to use some physics mechanisms over other free games.
[07:50] <Peddy> from other games*
[07:52] <Lasivian> what I wouldn;t give for a good Mech combat game...
[07:53] <dr_willis> Lasivian:  mechwarrior free to play . comming out in 2012
[07:53] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Well, it's all ioQuake under the hood, so I don't know if it's really that Sauerbraten has better physics than Urbanterror, or if Urbanterror just isn't bothering to impliment it.
[07:53] <Atlantic777> poz: check the winehq apps db and playonlinux
[07:53] <Lasivian> dr_willis: oh, kickass
[07:54] <Lasivian> only PC tho, but still something
[07:55] <poz> thanks atlantic77
[08:02] <BJD10> Anyone know how to pass PHP variable to another part of the page for google cse
[08:02] <BJD10> http://pastebin.com/vdtApCQa
[08:04] <Atlantic777> BJD10: join #php
[08:04] <BJD10> already looking there too.
[08:06] <naught101> I'm trying to upgrade over satellite internet, and have disabled ipv6, but apt is hanging while waiting for headers (0%), and eventually the connection is failing, after a few minutes.
[08:06] <naught101> anyone have any experience of this? web browsing is generally a bit slow, but it works...
[08:07] <webnet> Do u have v4 enabled??
[08:07] <naught101> webnet: it's enabled by default, no?
[08:08] <webnet> Should be but if you are getting an unable to connect that may be my first thought
[08:08] <yamahaalex37> is there a ubuntu equivalent of disk manager
[08:08] <naught101> webnet: browsing and pinging is working fine
[08:08] <webnet> Run ifconfig in terminal
[08:09] <webnet> Oh ok. Hmm...
[08:09] <naught101> webnet: yep, wlan0 is up, with an IPv4 address, no ipv6 address
[08:09] <naught101> webnet: everything else works fine, it's just apt
[08:10] <webnet> Ok good. Are you running apt-get update and getting the error or a specific package?
[08:10] <yamahaalex37> is there a ubuntu equivalent of disk manager
[08:10] <webnet> Yamahaalex37 depends what are you trying to accomplish??
[08:11] <yamahaalex37> webnet, i tried dual boot win ubu same drive, fuxed up windows
[08:11] <yamahaalex37> i installed ubu to another drive
[08:11] <html> hi
[08:11] <yamahaalex37> im trying to delete whatever linux or grub partitions were created on the other drive, see if i can bring back windows
[08:11] <naught101> webnet: no, everything in apt always hangs here. I can't update, I can't install anything, and I can't upgrade
[08:11] <webnet> Aah so trying to fix the borked win install?
[08:12] <yamahaalex37> basically
[08:12] <yamahaalex37> its still there, i think it should be fine
[08:12] <yamahaalex37> it actually shows in grub, but selecting it starts to load then restarts
[08:12] <webnet> Yeah wat is messed up. Win doesnt show up in grub? Or error?
[08:13] <nrdb> is it possible to run two different window managers at the same time, say one in screen 7 and one in screen 8 ?
[08:13] <webnet> naught101. Hmm... by sattelite you mean wifi right?
[08:13] <yamahaalex37> it shows up, i select it
[08:13] <yamahaalex37> it starts to load, then restarts
[08:14] <Techdude101> yamhaalex37: You could run ntfsfix on your windows partition (apt-get install ntfsprogs)
[08:14] <naught101> webnet: no.  I can't think of anything in apt that would cause it to be blocked though
[08:16] <webnet> naught101 oh ok... hmm... you said browsing is slow. How slow. What is your bandwidth. My thought is perhaps apt is timing out as its taking so long for the server to respond
[08:17] <naught101> pnorman: I was wondering that, but it seems an odd thing to block. Also, if I ring them up, they'll just say "sorry, we don't support linux"
[08:17] <pnorman> webnet: The issue with sat isn't bandwidth, although bandwidth isn't great, it's latency
[08:17] <naught101> webnet: not slow enough to kill the fun
[08:17] <Ansikt> pnorman:  I think apt uses ftp and http for transfers, so I doubt it's port-based.
[08:17] <html> is there a sever or alike that i can redircet all traffic online to it and speed up things , like p2p traffic ( Cod, call of duty). torrants i helpseed for linux , xbox online games ,
[08:17] <naught101> pnorman: yeah, possibly. I used to have problems here with ssh as well, but ssh seems to be working quite well lately - a second or two lag, but no connection problems
[08:18] <pnorman> Ansikt: They don't always do port-based blocking.
[08:18] <yamahaalex37> where is terminal...
[08:18] <pnorman> Ansikt: But ya, apt seems like a weird thing to be blocked.
[08:18] <webnet> Porman i just mean if hes only pulling like 5kbps that may cause it to be slow enough to cause a timeout
[08:18] <html> hoping i can lower my ping , and access  time
[08:19] <pnorman> naught101: try searching for apt-get on http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1734869
[08:20] <webnet> Yamahaalex ctrl+alt+t
[08:21] <Ansikt> pnorman:  I really doubt they're blocking it.  I'd bet any money the problem lies somewhere between your walljack and your chair.
[08:22] <pnorman> naught101: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1734869&p=45&#r898 seems to answer it. Apparently Skymesh's QoS de-prioritizes apt based on the HTTP user agent
[08:23] <naught101> pnorman: wow, what a pack of bastards
[08:23] <pnorman> If that's true or not, I don't know, but I imagine it'd be relatively easy to test
[08:23] <webnet> naught101 | !language
[08:24] <yamahaalex37> why doesnt su root work in ubu
[08:25] <yamahaalex37> i dont remember setting up root pw
[08:25] <webnet> !language | naught101
[08:25] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: try sudo su -
[08:25] <webnet> Yamahaalex its sudo su in ubu
[08:25] <naught101> pnorman: really? how?
[08:26] <ikonia> it is not "sudo su"
[08:26] <ikonia> sudo -i
[08:26] <ikonia> that will give you a root shell correctly
[08:26] <webnet> It is sido su
[08:27] <ikonia> webnet: no, it is not
[08:27] <ikonia> webnet: sudo -i is the correct way to get a root shell in ubuntu
[08:27] <Ansikt> Why?
[08:27] <webnet> Why would you want a root shell when you can just su in?
[08:27] <ikonia> !sudo > Ansikt
[08:27] <naught101> webnet: poor form. sudo -i or sudo -s
[08:27] <ikonia> Ansikt: check out the link ubottu just sent you
[08:27] <pnorman> naught101: change the apt user agent. I've never done it myself and I'm too tired to be confident that this will work, but adding Acquire::http::User-Agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/16.0.912.36 Safari/535.7" to /etc/apt/apt.conf *might* do it
[08:28] <webnet> Naught101 how so?
[08:28] <yamahaalex37> Techdude101, i tried ntfsfix /dev/sdbm, returned: volume is corrupt, try chkdsk
[08:29] <ikonia> yamahaalex37: fixing ntfs disks in linux is not a good idea, the correct tool for the job is Windows,
[08:29] <naught101> pnorman: I think I will try the ssh tunnel thing first
[08:29] <sheeps_> hi, I'm trying to convince banshee to sync with my generic usb music player but it won't recognise it when I plug it in, so it doesn't appear in the side bar (I can view the files in nautilus though)
[08:29] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: Make sure you run it on the windows partition itself e.g. ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[08:29] <pnorman> naught101: sat providers seem to filter in the most brain-dead ways. a ssh tunnel would be useful in general, but you'd need a computer to tunnel to
[08:30] <naught101> pnorman: I have one :)
[08:30] <yamahaalex37> Techdude101, refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sdb2
[08:30] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: Also make sure the drive isn't mounted
[08:30] <drake01> guys, what's the command to enable and then safely remove the usb data-drives from commandline?
[08:30] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: umount /dev/sdb2
[08:31] <yamahaalex37> Techdude101, not says it was processed sucessfull
[08:31] <yamahaalex37> restart and try loading?
[08:32] <pnorman> naught101: I was trying to get someone I know to be able to connect to Ventrilo (closed source voice chat server, like mumble, used as the standard way to communicate for some games). I gave up. I knew that it was theoretically possible to tunnel it (and only it) and bypass the blocking, but I knew that walking a non-technical user through setting up a tunnel would be near-impossible
[08:32] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: Yeah, see if it boots to windows and if it does run chkdsk if it doesn't start automatically
[08:32] <naught101> webnet: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/10/11/why-use-sudo-instead-of-su/
[08:32] <pnorman> Just remember, ubuntu is open source. If you break it, you get to keep the pieces :)
[08:32] <naught101> pnorman: I've done tunnelling before, I just need to remember how. will look up a howto
[08:32] <yamahaalex37> damn win didnt load
[08:33] <drake01> guys, what are the  commands to mount and then safely remove the usb data-drives from commandline?
[08:34] <nrdb> I think there is a bug with ubuntu... I can't seem to change the window drag key from <alt> to anything else.
[08:34] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: check your grub config, make sure it's pointing to the right drive/partition for windows
[08:34] <yamahaalex37> im sure it is, because i can select repair windows
[08:34] <pnorman> naught101: My ISP blocks a few ports, but no packet filtering or anything like that
[08:35] <prodr1fterx> hello
[08:35] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: At what point does it reboot? Does it try and load windows?
[08:36] <prodr1fterx> hello
[08:37] <html> is there a server that speeds up my internet, and lowers ping ,?  or an app
[08:37] <drake01> How to mount and then safely remove the usb data-drives using commandline?
[08:37] <html> is there a server that speeds up my internet, and lowers ping ,?  or an app, or an os?
[08:38] <Techdude101> drake01: Think the command is "eject /dev/sdX"
[08:40] <ejv> Hello, I'm using diff between 2 files, there are arrows pointing left and right and a ----- line break; what does this all represent?
[08:40] <ejv> (The line break is followed by more output with directional arrows.)
[08:41] <Ansikt> html, check out Opera.  They compress some of the data before they send it to you.
[08:41] <Ansikt> It's pretty great for slow interwebs, html
[08:41] <pnorman> Most web browsers (all?) support gzip encoded content, but servers have to as well
[08:43] <yamahaalex37> any commands i can run in ubu to fix grub?
[08:43] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, whats wrong with it?
[08:43] <yamahaalex37> BOOTMGR is missing
[08:44] <yamahaalex37> long story
[08:44] <MahaVishnu> are you dual booting?
[08:44] <theadmin> yamahaalex37: That sounds like a Windows error...
[08:44] <yamahaalex37> i tried win ubu dual boot, broke windows boot. I installed ubu to another hdd, tried to fix. i loaded win recover, ran abunch of fixmbr commands
[08:44] <yamahaalex37> now i have no grub, and no bootmgr
[08:45] <naught101> pnorman: hurr... that user agent string fixes it. How ridiculous
[08:46] <xeqache> Hello, I'm having problems with ssh
[08:46] <xeqache> Is there anyone that can help?
[08:46] <sattu94> yamahaalex37: There is no reason fr the ubu installation to break windows, unless it was unsuccessful.
[08:47] <sattu94> xeqache: dont ask to ask. just ask.
[08:47] <happygolucky> ls
[08:48] <happygolucky> oops
[08:48] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, can you like open gparted and take a screen shot of it or something so I have a clue whats going on in your computer?
[08:48] <happygolucky> sorry
[08:48] <xeqache> I've got ubuntu running on my server, and on my local host. I have the right key pair set up, but ssh is returning permission denied (publickey)
[08:48] <xeqache> Can't figure out why at all
[08:48] <en1gma> if i want to just run a live cd how would i use kernel 3.1.5? i mean is there a script that lets you create a NEW/Custom live ubuntu usb/cd?
[08:49] <en1gma> there is a special driver for my wifi usb adapter that came in 3.1
[08:50] <yamahaalex37> MahaVishnu, is there any fix grub commands i can run
[08:50] <sattu94> xeqache: Did you put the public key in the authorized_keys file ?
[08:50] <xeqache> on my localhost?
[08:50] <sattu94> xeqache: on the server.
[08:51] <xeqache> it's an amazon ec2, so I presume it did it when I uploaded the public key
[08:51] <xeqache> I can't get into it to do it otherwise
[08:51] <sattu94> xeqache: Then I guess you could try asking on #ssh
[08:51] <xeqache> thanks anyway
[08:52] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, sudo update-grub2 sudp update-initramfs -u
[08:52] <en1gma> i mean i would like to use kernel 3.1.5 with ubuntu live cd....is there a guide to do this?
[08:53] <yamahaalex37> MahaVishnu didnt work
[08:53] <yamahaalex37> im livecd
[08:53] <sheeps_> hi, I'm trying to convince banshee to sync with my generic usb music player but it won't recognise it when I plug it in, so it doesn't appear in the side bar (I can view the files in nautilus though)
[08:54] <sattu94> xeqache: How did you upload they key?
[08:56] <caoxiaomin> 全是国外友人吗？
[08:56] <Cradam> !grub
[08:56] <Cradam> yamahaalex37: look at the restore grub link
[08:57] <caoxiaomin> help
[08:57] <ravedog> Hey all, i have a bit of an issue here. I need to deploy different packages to machines via cfe based on if its a laptop or a workstation. I was looking for pcmcia slot and then defined it as a laptop. However new laptops dont have pcmcia -.- Anyone got a bright idea?
[08:57] <caoxiaomin> 如何进入中文UBUNTU
[08:57] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, I'd probably suggest just reinstalling ubuntu at this point.
[08:57] <theadmin> !cn | caoxiaomin
[08:57] <xeqache> sattu94, I uploaded it via the aws managaement console
[08:57] <caoxiaomin> ok
[08:58] <iceroot> ravedog: if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/state ] (i think its just a dirty workaround)
[08:58] <iceroot> ravedog: also maybe hwinfo have some info about it
[08:59] <ravedog> Brilliant Iceroot, hwinfo is too unreliable (got a few different models). However batteru state is perfect
[08:59] <ravedog> thnx!
[09:01] <Cradam> iceroot: acpi is not a work around, its what all battery monitors use
[09:01] <caoxiaomin> hello everyone!
[09:01] <Ansikt> HELLO CAOXIAOMIN!
[09:02] <caoxiaomin> hello,where are you from?
[09:02] <iceroot> Cradam: ah ok
[09:02] <iceroot> ravedog: see the info from Cradam
[09:02] <sam22> caoxiaomin no chinese help ?
[09:03] <Cradam> ooh /proc/acpi/battery/state isnt on this comp
[09:03] <Cradam> its a laptop
[09:04] <ravedog> iceroot dang!
[09:04] <iceroot> Cradam: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[09:04] <ravedog> sounded soo good
[09:04] <Cradam> ravedog:  if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/ ] looks like it should always work
[09:04] <iceroot> ravedog: should still be working because its only generated when a battery is plugged in
[09:04] <susundberg> Cradam: that exists also on desktops
[09:04] <iceroot> ravedog: but mnaybe you get a problem when there is no battery plugged in but an ac adapter and its still a laptop
[09:04] <Cradam> ahh, use 2 if statements then
[09:05] <Cradam> ravedog: if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state  || -e /proc/acpi/battery/state] ?
[09:06] <ravedog> my workstation has the /proc/acpi/battery/ but its empty
[09:06] <Cradam> btw, i dont know much about if statements in bash
[09:07] <Braden`> In aptitude, I still have a category called "gnome".  If I am using Unity, do I still need stuff in the gnome category?
[09:07] <ravedog> and both laptops have folders in the /proc/apci/battery/
[09:08] <wakaman> hello I'm from the real world my name is mike
[09:08] <ravedog> Cradam: i have on one laptop two folders name BAT0 & BAT1 and on the other they are named C1F3 & C1F4
[09:08] <wakaman> how are you doing today
[09:08] <geoffmcc> Braden`: Unity is a shell that runs on gnome - so you still need gnome
[09:08] <ravedog> but unless there is a machine without batty all together i should be pretty safe going for if there is anything att all in the battery folder
[09:09] <ravedog> battery*
[09:09] <Braden`> ok
[09:09] <Braden`> tanks
[09:09] <Cradam> ravedog: good idea
[09:09] <Braden`> thanks
[09:09] <zxiest> hey =)
[09:09] <ravedog> thnx for you help guys
[09:09] <zxiest> How can I get more info about a process given its pid?
[09:10] <Cradam> ravedog: if [ -a /proc/acpi/battery/* ] ??
[09:11] <ravedog> Cradam: Yeah!
[09:11] <html> ansikt i know that, thanks but i want all my traffic to go through this computer
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: you can run unity on LXDE if you so desire :)
[09:15] <Cradam> ravedog: yep, that works
[09:16] <ravedog> Cradam: Cheers m8!
[09:17] <Alexey> hi people
[09:17] <Alexey> I am new here
[09:17] <Alexey> going to install xubuntu
[09:17] <Alexey> but cannot get root rights(((
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Alexey: you don't need it, just use sudo
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Alexey: you can get a root terminal with:  sudo -i
[09:18] <Alexey> for any commands??
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Alexey: for terminal commands just prepend the command with sudo
[09:19] <Alexey> got it got it))
[09:19] <ntr0py> When building a package from an install tree in "debian/dest" with dh_install -a --sourcedir=debian/dest do i need any special treatment for shared object files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions?
[09:20] <vlt> Hello. How can I enter a whole path of a folder in nautilus?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> vlt: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/how-to-show-text-entry-address-bar-or-breadcrumbs-navigation-buttons-in-nautilus-after-ubuntu-10-04-upgrade/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> vlt: try CTRL+L
[09:21] <ravedog> vlt: what do you mean? just crtl+l to bring up the location window and do a /full/path/to/stuff
[09:22] <yamahaalex> i tried ubu dual boot on windows hdd, windows wasnt loading, so i uninstalled and put ubu on another drive
[09:23] <yamahaalex> now i only have win 7 on the hdd, but grub tried to load
[09:23] <yamahaalex> how can i get rid of grub
[09:23] <yamahaalex> im on the other hdd now, ubu
[09:23] <vlt> ActionParsnip, ravedog: Yes, ctrl+l works. Thank you.
[09:26] <sam22> is there a GUI program for ubuntu that shows log errors ?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> vlt: no worries
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> sam22: do you mean system logs, or just the errors in the logs, or log in errors?
[09:28] <yogg> Hi
[09:28] <yogg> Is it possible to ask the "dhcp" server only for the dns servers and not change anything on the interface configuration?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> yogg: I'd read the dhclient3  man page, see if its possible
[09:29] <sam22> ActionParsnip how do i install ubuntu default log viewer or any other log viewer ?
[09:29] <sam22> i'm on server installation
[09:30] <sam22> and there is excessive CPU activity
[09:30] <sam22> so i need to know what's happening
[09:30] <yogg> ActionParsnip: the problem is "man dhclient3" shows me many options, but most of them are not described :(
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> sam22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles#Viewing_Files   not sure about log file viewer being default, you can always use less to read the files
[09:32] <almoxarife> sam22: have a gui client to access the server?
[09:32] <rasmusth> when I try to update the update manager keeps saying, "installation of untrusted packages"
[09:32] <rasmusth> how do I fix this? 11.10
[09:33] <yogg> ActionParsnip: google manpage is better   -n  :)
[09:36] <yogg> hmm with "dhclient -n" the client hangs and don't show me anything
[09:38] <sam22> almoxarife i'm on the server
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:38] <sam22> sorry for the late reply
[09:39] <sam22> i customized it from the beginning but i don't know is broken now
[09:40] <yamahaalex> double touchpad scroll not working ubu fresh install
[09:40] <sam22> ok i installed the ubuntu GUI log viewer
[09:40] <sam22> thanks for the tip guys
[09:41] <ax3plyr> hey guys, quick question, in terms of wildcards, how come doing "ls D?sktop" doesn't list Desktop (for example).
[09:41] <almoxarife> yamahaalex: look at the mouse/pad setting, I do believe that what you want is there, but needs to be set
[09:42] <rasmusth> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org oneiric InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[09:42] <rasmusth> this may be the line you want?
[09:42] <yamahaalex> thanks almostroot
[09:42] <yamahaalex> almoxarife,
[09:45] <almoxarife> rasmusth: you don't have the pub keys for the ppa, and being told so
[09:45] <rasmusth> okay
[09:45] <rasmusth> shouldn't ubuntu make sure I have that?
[09:47] <JLuc> hello
[09:47] <raidgh0st> Hello JLuc
[09:48] <raidgh0st> Seems like pretty much of the people in here is sleeping (timezone diff)
[09:48] <almoxarife> rasmusth: no, ppa's are sort of the wild wild west, on you to make them work and suffer when they cripple your system
[09:48] <JLuc> i deleted a folder using rm -rf *    Plz Is there a simple way to recover it ?
[09:48] <raidgh0st> ooh. You done something stupid..
[09:48] <JLuc> :-/
[09:49] <rasmusth> almoxarife: okay that doesnt make a lot of sense though as I have not changed anything, it stopped working on its own
[09:49] <almoxarife> JLuc: now you won't do that again
[09:49] <raidgh0st> learning by doing
[09:49] <JLuc> i'll be more thoughtfull
[09:49] <JLuc> sure
[09:49] <raidgh0st> its almost the same as my typos for some years ago. rm picture.jpg picture_year.jpg
[09:49] <raidgh0st> and i couldnt understand why the pictures was gone
[09:49] <geirha> !undelete | JLuc
[09:49] <almoxarife> rasmusth: you had to have added the ppa, it did not happen via ubuntu alone
[09:50] <JLuc> thank ubuntu team i will look at these links
[09:50] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: Of course my friend was laughting. and did ask me.  And then it went up on my mind. The wrong syntax :p
[09:50] <rasmusth> almoxarife: even if I remove everything from the list, it still doesnt work
[09:51] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: ????
[09:51] <almoxarife> rasmusth: it? and list?
[09:51] <rasmusth> the problem is coming from Medibuntu
[09:51] <raidgh0st> nevermind. you was not able to follow my lines.
[09:51] <rasmusth> and I do not recall adding Medibuntu
[09:51] <cowtaurog> hi, can anyone help me figure this out? my ubuntu cd (and dvd) won't boot, all it shows is a little graphic at the bottom center of the screen with a box, arrow, and a little guy in a circle.
[09:52] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: Checked bios?
[09:52] <yamahaalex> is there a one line apt-get to have LAMP?
[09:52] <cowtaurog> what do you mean?
[09:52] <cowtaurog> it boots from cd, if that's what you're asking
[09:52] <iceroot> yamahaalex: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[09:53] <rasmusth> almoxarife: isn't medibuntu added when I install ubuntu?
[09:54] <yamahaalex> thanks iceroot
[09:54] <raidgh0st> rasmusth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:54] <cowtaurog> anyways i was going to do an install on a hard drive i recently cleand out. i installed knoppix on it, it works just fine, but it's ghetto, ubuntu is what i wanted to begin with
[09:55] <almoxarife> rasmusth: no, you are thinking of another distro that does, but it is not 'ubuntu'
[09:55] <raidgh0st> rasmusth: needs to be installed afterwards.
[09:55] <rasmusth> how on earth has it gotten onto my system then
[09:55] <rasmusth> maybe XBMC installed it
[09:56] <almoxarife> rasmusth: no, xbmc wouldn't
[09:56] <html> whats a cashing server?
[09:56] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: When installing XBMC it also install the medibuntu packages and Ubuntu restricted extras.
[09:56] <dr_willis> a cacheing server you mean?
[09:57] <Delaya> Does anyone know why when I reverse search in the shell, sometimes a command just dissapears from the search <history> and is replaced by a wildcard?
[09:57] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: you saying that xbmc adds the medibuntu ppa? I have xbmc, I guess I can look for myself
[09:58] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/install-xbmc-on-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[09:58] <almoxarife> !info dnsmasq | html
[09:59] <almoxarife> html: I use it, pretty cool little app too
[09:59] <red> Heya, I have an older server runnin karmic
[10:00] <red> and the package sources have been removed from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists
[10:00] <rasmusth> when I have an application installed from the software center, can I edit it's startup script somewhere?
[10:00] <red> what should I do? :p
[10:00] <raidgh0st> karmic, i guess thats the only version that graphical card works with Acer aspire one
[10:02] <dr_willis> raidgh0st:  that sites directions seems to contradict itself.. they are installing the medibuntu and extras with their commands.
[10:02] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: the link is wrong, there is more than one ppa for xbmc 11.10
[10:03] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:03] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: okey then.
[10:03] <sam22> cya dr_willis
[10:03] <Delaya> Does anyone know why when I reverse search in the shell, sometimes a command just dissapears from the search <history> and is replaced by a wildcard?
[10:03] <red> dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[10:03] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: something else, the english looks like it was spit out by a universal translator
[10:03] <red> from apt-get update
[10:03] <sam22> anyone in here nows how to delete the apt-get update packages lists?
[10:03] <red> and then I checked that the distros are indeed removed from archive, so how would I upgrade if i wanted to :P
[10:04] <sam22> they are stored in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[10:04] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: I guess you rather would like me to speak norwegian.
[10:04] <html> all-knowing google
[10:05] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: ??
[10:05] <yamahaalex> how can i set up a localhost domain in ubu
[10:05] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: i thought you was complaining aboute my english.
[10:06] <cowtaurog> okay, so can anyone *pleeease* tell me what these hieroglyphics mean? my ubuntu cd won't boot, and all it gives me is some little icon on the bottom of my screen
[10:06] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: no, I was talking about the link
[10:06] <raidgh0st> Okey.
[10:06] <rasmusth> when I have an application installed from the software center, can I edit it's startup script somewhere?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: did yuo MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:08] <almoxarife> rasmusth: you can, but the question is how much needs to be edited to get what you want to achieve
[10:08] <cowtaurog>  no, i didn't, but i've tried it a few times, both cd and dvd
[10:08] <yamahaalex> where does ubu store apache files
[10:08] <cowtaurog> i shall try right now though
[10:08] <yamahaalex> httpd.conf
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[10:08] <rasmusth> I want to add --version=4.0 as a launch parameter
[10:08] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: Does something else boot from the DVD drive?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | cowtaurog
[10:08] <almoxarife> rasmusth: to what?
[10:09] <cowtaurog> yeah i've installed knoppix just like i intended to do ubuntu
[10:09] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: ubottu selfmade ircbot?
[10:09] <cowtaurog> boot from dvd, install to hd, boot from hd, works great
[10:09] <rasmusth> almoxarife: an application called Airfoil Speakers
[10:09] <raidgh0st> perl i guess.
[10:09] <cowtaurog> but ubuntu just doesn't want to boot from the cd
[10:09] <raidgh0st> Why boot from cd when you can boot from dvd
[10:09] <cowtaurog> yeah i have to find a md5 client for windows now...
[10:10] <rasmusth> sorry
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: as yuo havn't checked the ISO, you don't know if it is complete or consistant
[10:10] <rasmusth> --runtime=v4.0
[10:10] <mac1> hello
[10:10] <raidgh0st> hello mac1
[10:10] <html> almoxarife,  whats it do?
[10:11] <cowtaurog> yeah i just find it odd that i've got two different iso's and both do the same thing
[10:11] <almoxarife> html: it?
[10:11] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: what size are your iso?
[10:11] <almoxarife> rasmusth: what version? ubuntu
[10:11] <rasmusth> 11.10
[10:11] <mac1> unity freezes when i switch users (nvidia 520 gt with proprietary drivers..) i have to logout between each user change
[10:12] <mac1> any ideas ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> mac1: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace    is it ok?
[10:12] <almoxarife> rasmusth: /usr/share/applications has all the .desktop files for gui'fied apps, you could change it there?
[10:12] <cowtaurog> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso, and it's 711,980 kb
[10:13] <mac1> ActionParsnip: nop, all is freezed even the keyboard, i cannot even ssh into it from another computer
[10:13] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: the size is correct
[10:13] <rasmusth> almoxarife: I tried adding the parameter to the Exec line nothing happens when I try to launch with that at all
[10:13] <cowtaurog> i'm going to check the file and everything, but i got it off the torrent, so it should be just fine
[10:13] <cowtaurog> it's probably been checked a thousand times
[10:14] <rasmusth> this works: http://pastie.org/3004432
[10:14] <rasmusth> but I dont know how to apply it to the .desktop app
[10:14] <html> almoxarife,  the cashing server
[10:14] <almoxarife> rasmusth: I don't know what to tell you, run it via terminal, look for errors?
[10:14] <cowtaurog> yeah i just want to know wtf that icon means
[10:14] <yamahaalex> is ubu /etc/apache2/httpd.conf supposed to be empty?
[10:15] <JLuc> no
[10:15] <html> almoxarife,  i want some thing that with give me the edge for online
[10:15] <cowtaurog> a file cabinet or something, annd an arrow pointing to some stick figure in a circle
[10:15] <almoxarife> html: is that what you are looking for? dns caching?
[10:15] <cowtaurog> i even tried google image search, noting
[10:17] <html> almoxarife,  i dont know , i want my whole house to have a less laggy interent, lower ping  for p2p xbox games and latence
[10:18] <almoxarife> html: edge? not sure what you are wanting to achive? I find that dnsmasq shaves milsecs from dns lookups, but I use it to actually keep a shitload of garbage from getting thru to the browser, that's an edge I guess
[10:18] <cowtaurog> okay so the md5 matches too...
[10:18] <html> oh i have 12 mbp down and 1.3 up
[10:19] <Braden`> How do you authenticate for root privs if you select "Login without a password"?
[10:19] <sam22> almoxarife is there a GUI utility equal to the terminal TOP ?
[10:19] <html> almoxarife,  like stuff  as in adds? :) ihope?      what about ping?
[10:20] <almoxarife> html: yeap, ads especially
[10:20] <rasmusth> great, now I rebooted after updates, and it is stuck at checking battery state
[10:21] <almoxarife> html: I am looking up the app for ping, ping only to the dns server, after that the ping is at the mercy of the closest what ever it is that you are trying to get at
[10:21] <yamahaalex> what can i do in GEdit when it says could not save, no permission
[10:22] <geoffmcc> yamahaalex: gksudo gedit and then edit and save
[10:22] <yamahaalex> ok
[10:22] <yamahaalex> how can i create a new local domain
[10:22] <yamahaalex> like isntead of localhost
[10:22] <html> almoxarife,  YEAAAA!!!!  my linux netbook  has it hard enough,,,, like a fat man on a moped.....
[10:23] <almoxarife> html: look at 'namebench' app for setting up the closest fastest dns
[10:23] <Braden`> How do you authenticate for root privs if you select "Login without a password"?
[10:23] <html> almoxarife,  google it?
[10:23] <almoxarife> !info namebench
[10:24] <almoxarife> html: nope, just install it
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mac1: any bugs reported?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mac1: what if you use the open driver?
[10:24] <Kingfisher> Hello I want to make a script to archive a web page
[10:24] <geoffmcc> Braden`: sudo command or if gui app gksudo command
[10:24] <Kingfisher> I know how to save a webpage with wget
[10:24] <happygolucky> Braden`: i needed to login as root to do nvidia drivers, personally i did sudo passwd root and then set a root pass and logged in
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: same password you set when you installed
[10:24] <Kingfisher> but how do I download all the images on a webpage with bash?
[10:25] <geoffmcc> happygolucky: that is not wise or recomended advice to give
[10:25] <happygolucky> geoffmcc: blah blah blah, i said personally
[10:25] <Vustom> I have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount help
[10:25] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?
[10:26] <MahaVishnu> happyface, or you could have just done sudo su and not risked your system security.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Kingfisher: wget -p -k http://www.example.com/
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Kingfisher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinWGet
[10:26] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: that's not my name
[10:26] <Kingfisher> ActionParsnip, winwget is for windows is it not?
[10:26] <Kingfisher> I'm on Ubuntu
[10:26] <MahaVishnu> happyface, you still saw it. :F
[10:26] <html> almoxarife,  http://tinyurl.com/yehoh9g
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Kingfisher: it will be the same deal, check the man page to verify
[10:26] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: and no su after doing a WUBI install was not available to me
[10:27] <almoxarife> html: then you would need to have this file avail to dnsmasq to remove lots of garbage from your web browser winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
[10:27] <MahaVishnu> *wishes they would get rid of wubi*
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its ok as a cheap try before you buy
[10:27] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, half the people in here its cause of wubi.
[10:27] <html> agree MahaVishnu  ActionParsnip
[10:28] <almoxarife> html: that's the one, its available thru install too
[10:28] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: you realize Ubuntu is billed as an intro to linux distribution
[10:28] <MahaVishnu> happygolucky, doesn't mean you need to use wubi when the other options are VERY easy.
[10:29] <MahaVishnu> and from what i've seen wubi has a low sucess rate.
[10:29] <MahaVishnu> success*
[10:29] <cowtaurog> ok so...
[10:29] <cowtaurog> you'd think there would be better documentation on this
[10:30] <Tyrope> Greetings, #ubuntu. I'm trying to setup SSH on my box and i'm using this site as my guide, but I can't find the "AllowUsers" line, do I add this somewhere? http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3328
[10:30] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but i've installed ubuntu in every way and had success with it period, even on playstations
[10:30]  * sattu94 is happy that he began Ubuntu before Wubi came along.. :P
[10:30] <MahaVishnu> happyface, I'm glad ubuntu rocks
[10:30] <cowtaurog> all this specific stuff people ask about is all good, but i can't even get the cd to boot -_-
[10:30] <MahaVishnu> cowtaurog, whats wrong with it? did you check the md5
[10:30] <cowtaurog> yeah the md5 matches
[10:31] <Tyrope> cowtaurog: did you add your CD drive to the boot sequence in the BIOS?
[10:31] <cowtaurog> c396dd0f97bd122691bdb92d7e68fde5 fyi
[10:31] <raidgh0st> Tyrope: how hard is it to install openssd. (its apt-get install openssh-server)
[10:31] <Tyrope> raidgh0st: it's installed, i'm configuring it.
[10:31] <cowtaurog> it isn't any of that, i tried the cd, i tried dvd, neither one works
[10:31] <Tyrope> hence the word 'setup' and not 'install'
[10:31] <MahaVishnu> cowlicks, describe neither one works ?
[10:31] <raidgh0st> Tyrope: If its installed. Do you need do modify anything
[10:31] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?
[10:31] <cowtaurog> i have
[10:31] <raidgh0st> unless you`re gonan be paraonoia and only have 1 user.
[10:32] <cowtaurog> anyways it boots from bios to the cd
[10:32] <cowtaurog> but all it does is give a black screen with a weird icon
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | cowtaurog
[10:32] <cowtaurog> and it's clearly ubuntu
[10:32] <cowtaurog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: is the hash correct?
[10:32] <Tyrope> raidgh0st: I'm just wondering why the line isn't showing up. I know it's merely an extra layer of security and probably not required. I am however wondering if missing this line means a faulty install
[10:32] <MahaVishnu> cowtaurog, you might need the nomodeset option ?
[10:33] <cowtaurog> i'm good on using some external site
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: what GPU do you use?
[10:33] <cowtaurog> ati radeon 2400
[10:33] <cowtaurog> pretty old
[10:33] <html> almoxarife
[10:33] <cowtaurog> but i've never had a problem with ubuntu before
[10:33] <almoxarife> cowtaurog: try install with the 'alternate' iso and be hardwired to the internet, try that
[10:33] <cowtaurog> ...this isn't my first rodeo
[10:33] <html> almoxarife,  i have it so now what ?
[10:34] <almoxarife> html: have?
[10:34] <geoffmcc> Tyrope: no, if its needed you add it
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: try the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[10:34] <Tyrope> geoffmcc: Thank you. Can i just add it anywhere?
[10:34] <html> almoxarife,  namebench,,,,,
[10:34] <Tyrope> (on it's own line, ofcourse)
[10:34] <almoxarife> html: run it?
[10:34] <geoffmcc> Tyrope: yes
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: MD5 is important, it can be needed less if you use torrents due to the protocol
[10:34] <html> how?
[10:34] <Tyrope> Thank you very much, geoffmcc.
[10:34] <cowtaurog> i can't try a boot option or anything... unless i roll it into the iso and burn another disc
[10:34] <mac1> ActionParsnip: i did find someone who reported a similar issue in the ubuntu forums, but nobody replied..
[10:35] <cowtaurog> it doesn't even get that far
[10:35] <geoffmcc> Tyrope: maybe best to put below host section though, no problem
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> mac1: tried with the open driver?
[10:35] <almoxarife> html: open a terminal please and type 'namebench'
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | cowtaurog they are applied before grub2 starts to load the kernel on the CD, so you do
[10:36] <cowtaurog> okay, i shall try again, and take plenty of pictures with my phone. the resolution on the screen is horrible, nevermind cellphone pics
[10:36] <Vustom> I have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount, could anyone help me please?
[10:36] <cowtaurog> maybe someone will have seen this before
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: once you get installed it will help, you can then get updated and it should help a lot
[10:36] <mac1> ActionParsnip: not yet, could i revert if it does not work ?
[10:37] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?
[10:38] <almoxarife> rasmusth: have a batt?
[10:38] <geoffmcc> cowtaurog: you wouldnt happen to have dual display. 1hdmi and one crt monitor using VGA?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> mac1: sure you can switch back as you wish, just blacklist the nvidia driver and you will make the OS use nouveau
[10:38] <rasmusth> almoxarife: no
[10:38] <raidgh0st> rasmusth: if the battery is on its time to be replaced it doesnt checking battery state
[10:39] <mac1> ActionParsnip: how can i do that ?
[10:39] <almoxarife> rasmusth: ohh :(
[10:39] <rasmusth> no bat
[10:39] <html> almoxarife, ok here goes...
[10:40] <Vustom> How do I install ms-sys in Ubuntu?
[10:40] <html> ms-sys? whats that ?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mac1: echo "blacklist nvidia" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf
[10:40] <almoxarife> html: choose alexa as 'query data source' , so any caching done so far by anything won't effect the test
[10:41] <html> its not here
[10:42] <geoffmcc> rasmusth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66146/why-11-10-says-plymouth-errors-and-checking-battery-state
[10:42] <NeilP> is this the help channel?
[10:42] <almoxarife> html: it will show if you click on the source shown
[10:42] <ikonia> NeilP: it is
[10:42] <mac1> ActionParsnip: thanks and to revert i remove the line from nvidia.conf ?
[10:43] <NeilP> Can I ask for help regarding my administrator account? I just installed ubuntu yesterday and I love it but after I set my account to no password, it still asks for a password during authentication...
[10:43] <rasmusth> geoffmcc: thanks
[10:43] <ikonia> NeilP: asks for a password where?
[10:44] <iceroot> NeilP: dont set an empty password!
[10:44] <NeilP> during installations (software center)
[10:44] <NeilP> I just did...ehehe
[10:44] <ikonia> NeilP: how did you set the password to blank ?
[10:44] <NeilP> I already tried the root thing though
[10:44] <iceroot> NeilP: that is the user-password which is asked for
[10:44] <Gentoo64> NeilP, thats common when peope come from window
[10:44] <querier> Hi there, im remastering linux and wonder if I can reduce the .iso's size by deleting packages to be installed. Can I list up standard ubuntu packages sorted by size?
[10:44] <NeilP> I just set it to no password
[10:44] <ikonia> NeilP: where ?
[10:45] <NeilP> When I try to change my password, the cursor goes to the new password immediately, it doesn't ask for the current one. But the Change button is dimmed
[10:45] <NeilP> -user accounts
[10:45] <geoffmcc> NeilP: although you set it to no password on login, to do things that require root access you need to authenticate
[10:45] <ikonia> I do not believe the user-accounts gui should allow you to set a null password
[10:45] <NeilP> yeah, Im trying to do the sudo commands
[10:46] <Vustom> I have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount, could anyone help me please?
[10:46] <iceroot> ikonia: i does not allow it
[10:46] <NeilP> well, it says on the user accounts: Password None
[10:46] <iceroot> ikonia: i guess he means "autologin"
[10:46] <happygolucky> mac1: no offense to ActionParsnip but i have a gtx card and I had to blacklist nouveau so what is suggested seems crazy to me but if it works it works
[10:46] <ikonia> iceroot: then how has he set it to no password
[10:46] <ikonia> NeilP: did you set it to autologin ?
[10:46] <iceroot> ikonia: vim on /etc/shadow? :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> happygolucky: trying either is fine, it's free :)
[10:46] <ikonia> iceroot: I pray not
[10:47] <iceroot> ikonia: i bet he is talking about something diffrent
[10:47] <geoffmcc> NeilP: but the password you created during install is still the password for sudo
[10:47] <happygolucky> ActionParsnip: my sentiments precisely
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> happygolucky: or even both, no offence taken. As long as the goal is reached I don't care
[10:47] <NeilP> i have autologin activated
[10:47] <NeilP> how do I use the sudo command to change passwd for my account?
[10:47] <iceroot> NeilP: you dont use sudo to change your password
[10:48] <mac1> happygolucky: :) i dont reaaly know, what to do.. i'll try to install xfce and see if i can switch users in it
[10:48] <Vustom> No one can help me? :(
[10:48] <iceroot> NeilP: with sudo you change/set the rott-password
[10:48] <iceroot> nfor changing your own password you use "passwd"
[10:48] <html> whe3re do i post my screen shots?
[10:48] <iceroot> NeilP: ^
[10:48] <iceroot> !paste | html
[10:48] <NeilP> okay..I tried using the 'passwd' in the root thing
[10:49] <NeilP> but it just says authentication fail
[10:49] <iceroot> NeilP: post the exact command you used and the error message
[10:49] <geoffmcc> NeilP: ok. lets start over. what is it that you are trying to do,
[10:49] <NeilP> im trying to set a new password for my admin account
[10:49] <iceroot> NeilP: and post what you tried to do/though it is doing
[10:50] <html> iceroot,  thats for text.. i need picture bin
[10:50] <mac1> ok thanx folks for the help
[10:50] <iceroot> NeilP: admin-account = root? or the sudo-user in the admin-group?
[10:50] <mac1> see ya
[10:50] <rasmusth> is it possible to auto login to unity-2d
[10:50] <happygolucky> mac1: personally i'd put nouveau.blacklist=true before quiet splash inside of grub, you'll have to edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo grub-mkconfig
[10:50] <iceroot> html: read the text again
[10:50] <geoffmcc> NeilP: whenever you set the password on the default account it becomes the sudo password
[10:50] <NeilP> This is the first account made by ubuntu for me.
[10:50] <iceroot> NeilP: and you want to change the password from your default user?
[10:50] <almoxarife> NeilP: did you at the time of installation decide to leave the passwords blank? or you blanked them after the fact?
[10:50] <NeilP> I set it to no password...which was a big mistake
[10:50] <geoffmcc> NeilP: well you set it to auto login, but you still set a password
[10:51] <iceroot> NeilP: so your normal user does not have a password at the moment?
[10:51] <NeilP> Yes
[10:51] <NeilP> it does not have a password at the moment
[10:51] <NeilP> But I have autologin enabled
[10:51] <iceroot> NeilP: "sudo df" is that asking for a password?
[10:51] <almoxarife> no password means no sudo then??
[10:51] <rasmusth> NeilP: but then you cannot use either VNC or SSH?
[10:51] <NeilP> the only sudo ive tried is 'su -s'
[10:51] <iceroot> NeilP: that is a root-shell
[10:52] <iceroot> NeilP: not sudo
[10:52] <NeilP> okay, im sorry i dont know VNC and SSH
[10:52] <NeilP> oh...okay.
[10:52] <iceroot> NeilP: again! post the exact command you are using
[10:52] <geoffmcc> NeilP: during install you set a password, you then set to autologin.. the password you set is still valid
[10:52] <html> almoxarife, http://imagebin.org/188190
[10:52] <NeilP> it doesnt accept the original password
[10:52] <geoffmcc> NeilP: if you dont know what it is jsut do passwd from terminal and reset or go to accounts and reset threw gui
[10:52] <geoffmcc> NeilP: i find its easier to just passwd from a terminal
[10:53] <NeilP> do you mean terminal as in that boot thing you do before the OS starts
[10:53] <NeilP> like going to recov mode?
[10:53] <iceroot> NeilP: what command does not accept the password?
[10:53] <NeilP> the passwd command
[10:53] <iceroot> NeilP: please dont let us guess here
[10:53] <geoffmcc> NeilP: no terminal. command line interface... like cmd.exe in windows
[10:53] <NeilP> I used passwd Neil
[10:53] <NeilP> then it says enter UNIX password
[10:53] <iceroot> NeilP: what is the output of "whoami"
[10:54] <NeilP> havent tried thta
[10:54] <iceroot> NeilP: and you are calling "passwd"?
[10:54] <geoffmcc> NeilP: while loged itno the account you want to change the password on just use passwd then enter then it will guide u threw password change
[10:54] <willis111> hai
[10:54] <willis111> I'm having some troubles w/rt2870 usb 10.04 lts
[10:54] <happygolucky> is it me or does everyone want NeilP to get back to the freaking command line and do stuff
[10:55] <happygolucky> :)
[10:55] <willis111> tried building the sta driver from the ralink site but no love
[10:55] <almoxarife> html: the version I have is 1,3,1 , where did you get namebench from? what version of ubuntu?
[10:55] <html> almoxarife, http://imagebin.org/188190 this is what i see , it just tested the bowser(firefox
[10:55] <willis111> the device shows up with the stock rt2870usb driver but wont do anything
[10:56] <html> almoxarife,  software center > search  {namebench} its the only one there
[10:56] <willis111> err rt2800usb/rt2x00
[10:56] <happygolucky> NeilP: i dunno what you have access to or dont but if you needed to record a pass you could unshadow and crack it with john the ripper
[10:56] <html> almoxarife,  how do i see what im running ? like command line?
[10:57] <NeilP> okay thanks for the help guys
[10:57] <almoxarife> html: ok, so run it as is
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench precise
[10:57] <willis111> works great on my gentoo system, just emerged the sta drivers/firmware
[10:57] <almoxarife> html: what version of ubuntu you got?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> html: lsb_release -sc
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: it's 1.3.1 in precise too
[10:59] <willis111> !info rt2870*
[10:59] <almoxarife> html: something smells
[10:59] <willis111> !info rt2800usb
[10:59] <html> ActionParsnip,  thanks a ton :)... trying to get around to commandlind ,, its a little hard
[11:00] <html> almoxarife,  ? huh lol
[11:00] <html> almoxarife, lol i smell it to ...
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> html: I gave the exact command, so no need to be able to get around, you just need to be able to copy andpaste
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> html: what is the output of the command please?
[11:01] <almoxarife> html: your version of the thing is not what is avail, you got an error loading alexa , I saw it on your term, soooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:01] <html> maveric
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench maveric
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench maverick
[11:02] <willis111> what kernel is 11.10 using with updates?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[11:03] <willis111> tyvm
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> np
[11:03] <MahaVishnu> so the kernel is only 32kb ?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its a meta package only
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: like ubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <html> almoxarife,  huhuhuhuhu??? what is your subject to your last comment?
[11:04] <MahaVishnu> ahh. yea I didn't think it could be 32kb
[11:04] <NeilP> I just knew that the terminal is different from the root shell o_O. I solved it! thanks! haha
[11:04] <willis111> and 10.04 is 2.6.36?
[11:04] <almoxarife> html: nevermind alexa, run it, close down firefox if its open
[11:04] <willis111> 2.6.32*
[11:05] <html> almoxarife,  plaese what was you talking about ?
[11:06] <willis111> or do I have to sync portage or whatever?
[11:06] <almoxarife> html: I assumed you were at 11.10, I asked for the version, I got no response, so I assumeddddddddddddddd,
[11:07] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, kernel is vmlinuz or initrd ?
[11:08] <almoxarife> html: the point of using the alexa list is to insure you are not hitting on already cached dns entries, but I don't know why it crashed on your system
[11:08] <willis111> vmlinuz
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: both afaik
[11:10] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'umountable drive' after entering pass
[11:11] <afeijo> hi guys, I installed compizconfig-settings-manager but yet, compiz is no working for my brand new 11.10, what else does it need?
[11:11] <html> almoxarife,  lol  i am slow at typing  i'll get there in the end...  and i really dont like unity for old, slow pcs , -hich everyone has     , there to much of a learning curve  for newbles lunix users , and still a pain to figure out for me ...... if i get i faster , newer one then maybe i give it a run.... and kubuntu ,,,,,, anyway
[11:13] <willis111> !info hostapd
[11:14] <html> almoxarife,  well i dont want to do that .... alexa list thinnggyyy... mmmm  what is it?
[11:14] <almoxarife> html: you don't need to use unity, I don't, I use gnome shell, one big blank screen too, I also use cairo-dock, cause its far simpler to get at stuff, and to boot, since ubuntu lacks in some utils I took them from kubuntu, so I guess I am running a cairo-gno-ku
[11:14] <willis111> tacos rule
[11:15] <rasmusth> ok so after having updated ubuntu, xbmc is super slow in menus, as if GFX is not working
[11:15] <almoxarife> html: don't want to do? lost you?
[11:16] <html> almoxarife,  post a pic or video
[11:16] <sokak> Hallo, 'sup?
[11:17] <keepguessing> Hi, I am having python dump on a mount point. I have mounted that at a place such as /commonapps/mntpnt/python2.6/ now I have python 2.7 installed [on ubuntu 11.10] How can I make use of both python 2.7 preinstalled and the python 2.6 mounted?
[11:18] <rasmusth> how can I check if my gfxis accelerating
[11:19] <sokak> rasmusth, turn on compiz and see if is crawling or not
[11:21] <rasmusth> sokak: I think compiz has some bug with my gfx
[11:21] <rasmusth> never worked
[11:22] <sokak> which gpu and which drivers you have?
[11:25] <Anomie21> How do you install openoffice? Can't see it in the software centre for some weird reason. sudo apt-get install openoffice doesn't work either.
[11:27] <iceroot> Anomie21: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[11:27] <Anomie21> iceroot: I already have libreoffice, Its not very good though so I'm trying to install Oo
[11:27] <sokak> They are almost the same
[11:27] <iceroot> Anomie21: there is no openoffice anymore in the repos its replaced with libreoffice
[11:28] <sokak> btw, go on openoffice website and download the deb -.-
[11:28] <geoffmcc> Anomie21: assuming your on 11.10 --- http://www.fossapps.com/2011/12/01/how-to-install-openoffice-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[11:28] <iceroot> lake: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice and at the moment they are the same
[11:28] <DarkStar1> How do I get the size of my FS in CLI?
[11:28] <Anomie21> sokak: libreoffice is unable to open some microsoft word files properly
[11:28] <iceroot> DarkStar1: df -h
[11:28] <DarkStar1> I know it's du but can't remember the options
[11:28] <iceroot> Anomie21: but openoffice is?
[11:28] <iceroot> DarkStar1: man du  to see the options
[11:28] <Anomie21> iceroot: Well, the PC version is - I've not tried it on ubuntu
[11:28] <sokak> Anomie21, the whole point is to not handlòe anymore office files :P
[11:29] <Anomie21> sokak: Yes but when 90% of the world uses office it's inevitable
[11:29] <keepguessing> when I run ldconfig -p I see that there are a lot of so mapped to files whose location has changed. how I change these to point to right locations?
[11:29] <sokak> Anomie21, i dont care of the whole world
[11:29] <Anomie21> sokak: Yes but when you have a job you need to.
[11:30] <sokak> Anomie21, i dont have a job :P
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: df -h
[11:30] <DarkStar1> cheers guys
[11:31] <sokak> heyas
[11:31] <dumans> hiii
[11:31] <rasmusth> it says in ubuntu that my gfx is not currently in use
[11:31] <rasmusth> any ideas?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: what video chip
[11:31] <sokak> Question. Is better to shred or to badblock to make an hdd spew all the possible bad sectors?
[11:31] <rasmusth> 9400
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: what manufacturer, both ati and nvidia do a 9400
[11:32] <sokak> rasmusth, using binary nvidia drivers or nuveou?
[11:32] <sokak> agh, cant type properly
[11:33] <rasmusth> sokak I reinstalled them from ssh because it couldn't boot after updating ubuntu
[11:33] <rasmusth> it's nvidea
[11:33] <ikonia> rasmusth: from the nvidia.com website
[11:33] <ikonia> ?
[11:33] <sokak> rasmusth, where you got the drivers? Try xswat ppa :3
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:34] <rasmusth> ActionParsnip: that was what I did
[11:34] <sokak> thats good said
[11:34] <sokak> ahh
[11:34] <simion314> hi, is there a way to enable the fron panel headphone and microphone jacks on a desktop? I found some instructions on google to edit alsa.conf  but i am not sure if that will work in current versions of ubuntu
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> simion314: does the system have a make and model?
[11:35] <sokak> that may work, but on my 570 i feel beter with xswat updated drivers
[11:35] <sokak> rasmusth, you may try as well sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[11:35] <rasmusth> okay sokak
[11:36] <rasmusth> and then afterwards?
[11:36] <sokak> then apt-get update and apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:36] <sokak> or let jokey do graphically the dirty job
[11:36] <simion314> ActionParsnip: this is my motherboard ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3  i can give more details about the hardware if needed
[11:37] <zewb> yes hello
[11:37] <zewb> ifconfig doesnt seem to be working
[11:37] <zewb> in my fresh ubuntu install
[11:37] <sokak> does anybody knows if i can enable pci passtrough on an Asus M4N98TD EVO?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> simion314: if you run:  alsamixer   are all the levels unmuted and cranked?
[11:38] <stephni> my cd rom is not working
[11:38] <SachADay> my multimedia keys are detected but dont work on oneric, they worked in natty
[11:38] <simion314> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:38] <stephni> i insert a cd it won't show anything i go to properties it writes unknown
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> SachADay: if you run:  xev   do they make events?
[11:39] <sokak> SachADay, does xev throws output when you press them?
[11:39] <stephni> somebody help
[11:39] <sokak> hehe sorry ;)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> simion314: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[11:39] <SachADay> yes ActionParship and sokak
[11:39] <sokak> stephni, tried another cd?
[11:39] <simion314> ActionParsnip: the "Headphone" in alsamixer is grayedout/disabled
[11:40] <stephni> i tried all the cd even those ones working before
[11:40] <stephni> the cd rom will just rotate and stop
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> SachADay: then go into the keyboard options and change the desired action to the keypress
[11:40] <stephni> and i is a new cd rom i just changed today
[11:41] <SachADay> yes ActionParssnip and sokak
[11:41] <sokak> stephni, just check twice the wirings, and if the bios sees the drive
[11:41] <rasmusth> sokak: then I reboot right?
[11:41] <stephni> ok
[11:41] <sokak> rasmusth, yeah, and good luck :)
[11:41] <rasmusth> thanks
[11:41] <SachADay> ActionParsnip i've already set the shortcuts
[11:42] <SachADay> ActionParsnip still it never worked
[11:42] <rasmusth> it really makes no sense that people say ubuntu is so out of the box
[11:42] <simion314> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ec31337d93c4e2fc9753ca3a579d612a5d2c1826
[11:42] <sokak> rasmusth, its a matter of luck, on my new rig worked like a breeze
[11:42] <sokak> we can say basically it will work out of the box on the vast majority of rigs
[11:43] <rasmusth> heh
[11:43] <sokak> too old or too new hardware, can give unknown results
[11:43] <rasmusth> how do I check if it is working?
[11:43] <llutz> .. like vast majority of other distros
[11:43] <sokak> i do agree llutz
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> simion314: keep hold of that, its dead useful. My sound troubleshooting isn't great
[11:44] <rasmusth> god
[11:44] <rasmusth> this driver is activated but not currently in use
[11:44] <rasmusth> all because I update ubuntu
[11:44] <rasmusth> well done OS
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: all my hardware does, never had to do anything except on one box I have to install nvidia-current
[11:44] <sokak> im sticking with maverick until ill migrate to arch ;3
[11:45] <simion314> ActionParsnip: thx for your time
[11:45] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of how to troubleshoot when my gfx does not get used
[11:46] <JLuc> hello
[11:46] <sokak> rasmusth, usually when i get deadly tired of issues, i wipe any config folder on my home partition, and reinstall from scratch
[11:46] <rasmusth> but I just installed
[11:46] <sokak> oh :3
[11:46] <sinosoidal> hi, i'm trying to get a kernel module loaded at boot time. but it fails to load. i copied the file to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen
[11:46] <rasmusth> like a month ago
[11:47] <sokak> i still have to try anything later than Maverick
[11:47] <sokak> i was cool with that, and i kept sticking with it
[11:48] <sokak> well, sometimes the nvidia driver goes haywire, i should really move with later kernels on a distro without unity or gnome 3 ;3
[11:48]  * SachADay is the first person to kick his own ass
[11:48] <Anomie21> I tried to follow that Oo tutorial but there is no /DEBS/ folder in the extracted folder, so sudo dpkg -i *.deb doesn't work
[11:49] <sokak> Anomie21, tried yet to just get a deb package from Ooo webpage?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> sinosoidal: you may need to run: sudo depmod -a
[11:49] <sinosoidal> ActionParsnip: let me try
[11:50] <Anomie21> sokak: Yeah it was the deb one I downloaded
[11:50] <sokak> Anomie21, and isnt installing any way?
[11:50] <rasmusth> how do I wipe the faulty driver I have for GFX
[11:50] <Anomie21> sokak: OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-GB.tar.gz.
[11:50] <rasmusth> so that I can get back to the one that ubuntu recommended
[11:50] <sinosoidal> ActionParsnip: yeap! it is that
[11:50] <sinosoidal> ;)
[11:50] <Anomie21> sokak: I extracted the .tar.gz but it doesn't have any .deb files in it, it has some .rpm files though?
[11:51] <sokak> rasmusth, apt-get purge nvidia* should work
[11:51] <openbees> when i am trying to copy and paste any file or folder in "/var/www" apache giving me error "403 forbidden" what is the problem how can i overcome to this problem
[11:51] <sokak> Anomie21, look better in their download page, there *is* a deb package :)
[11:51] <JLuc> Is 'alias' command the same as 'ln -s' ?
[11:52] <llutz> JLuc: no
[11:52] <sokak> openbees, permission check anyone?
[11:53] <openbees> sokak : owner is www-data and myuser name is in group
[11:53] <Anomie21> sokak: Yeah, thats the one I've been downloading - from http://download.openoffice.org/other.html labeled ; Linux      x86-64 DEB
[11:54] <html> someone say my name?
[11:54] <orolin> html
[11:54] <html> ? lol  orolin
[11:55] <DarkStar1> how do I find out the current release of my ubuntu?
[11:55] <orolin> you ask you get :)
[11:55] <zewb> HELLO FRIENDS
[11:55] <sokak> DarkStar1, just open the system monitor ;)
[11:55] <zewb> HELLO FRIENDS
[11:55] <FloodBot1> zewb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <llutz> DarkStar1: lsb_release -a
[11:55] <html> lsb_release -sc
[11:55] <openbees>  when i am trying to copy and paste any file or folder in "/var/www" apache giving me error "403 forbidden" what is the problem how can i overcome to this problem
[11:55] <DarkStar1> sokak: I'm on a remote server
[11:55] <DarkStar1> llutz: thx
[11:55] <sokak> :P
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: lsb_release -sc
[11:56] <sokak> Anomie21, you downloaded it from this link? http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[11:56] <Anomie21> sokak: yep, thats the one
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> openbees: run your file browser with gksudo
[11:57] <sokak> Anomie21, its odd, i downloaded it that way and worked like a breeze :3
[11:57] <DarkStar1> Also I just created a user using useradd but it seems the groups and home directory were not created for it
[11:57] <llutz> DarkStar1:easier to use adduser
[11:57] <Anomie21> What do you do with the .tar.gz? double click it, extract it somewhere and then cd into the extracted directory and try to dpkg?
[11:57] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  i think 'adduser' gives defaults for those. useradd requires you to give the info.
[11:58] <dr_willis> Anomie21:  depends on whats in  the tar.gz
[11:58] <openbees> ActionParsnip : i don't know what do wanna say
[11:58] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: ook
[11:58] <openbees> ActionParsnip :ERROR "I am not getting you"
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> openbees: the foler is not owner by your user, it's owned by root, so you can run:  gjksudo nautilus   and you can write stuff to the folder
[11:59] <openbees> i tried so ..but not working
[12:00] <sokak> openbees, it should work, otherwise something is horribly wrong
[12:00] <tightwork> Is ubuntu ubuntuish?
[12:01] <ikonia> what ?
[12:01] <sokak> Anomie21, yes, the .tar.gz should contain the deb packages, from there you can install them with dpkg, or any other usual way
[12:01] <sokak> tightwork, then arch is architectural >.>
[12:02] <tightwork> how so?
[12:03] <ikonia> tightwork: what are you talking about ?
[12:03] <tightwork> ubuntu
[12:03] <ikonia> tightwork: what about it ?
[12:03] <tightwork> this is #ubuntu right?
[12:04] <sokak> tightwork, seems so. Define ubuntuish plox.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> tightwork  the ubuntu support channel, so do you have a support question
[12:04] <tightwork> I do
[12:05] <diverdude> ahhhh my new W520 Lenovo lean mean terminator killing machine has arrived :D ohhhhhh daddy
[12:06] <sokak> congrats
[12:06] <rasmusth> omgh
[12:06] <diverdude> thx....thats gonna run ubuntu 11.10
[12:08] <sokak> does exists a tweak to have devede installed with libavformat52,libpostproc51 and libswscale0?
[12:08] <sokak> im getting used to ffmpeg, but i would like to have it back for some lazy encding tasks.
[12:12] <red> I put my laptop to play music and connected it to the microphone port of my main PC -- I can see the "rear microphone line input" in sound panel moving so the sound is getting to my PC -- how do I make it audible directly?
[12:12] <sokak> well, kudos to you all nice people, quitting for now :)
[12:14] <red> oo, figured it out
[12:16] <sattu94> Hi, i have set up a vnc server, on ubuntu lucid. Can i have a login screen (like xdm) shown when a person logs in through vnc connection ?
[12:17] <Anomie21> Hmm, downloaded the .PPD for my printer, test page printed fine. But cant see the printer from within Libreoffice?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21: does the printer show in the systsm-printer-config  app?
[12:18] <sattu94> instead of the earlier session that was active ?
[12:18] <Anomie21> ActionParsnip: If that's the app that appears when you type 'Printers' into the alt-f2 panel in unity, then yeah
[12:18] <html> almoxarife,  heloo?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21: same thing :0
[12:20] <Anomie21> ActionParsnip: nevermind, restarted Libreoffice and it was there. :)
[12:21] <Antonis> Hello I have recently installed ubuntu 11.10 and I face some problem when I move files from one partition to another. I didn't have this problem when I was running ubuntu 10.10 but now I move 3 movies (~4GB in total) and the whole system freezes during the whole transfer/move process.. what could be causing this? I also tried to move using terminal to be sure it's not a nautilus matter but same there..
[12:21] <rasmusth> AMAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAD
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21: sweet
[12:23] <rasmusth> now my ubuntu is stuck at ubuntu loading screen with all dots blue
[12:23] <raidgh0st> Trying to figure out why ubuntu says i have 15700mb ram and not 16
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: do you use onboard video?
[12:24] <raidgh0st> ActionParsnip: using my Ati radeon Hd 6900
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: may be the ram allotment for the pciexpress slot
[12:25] <raidgh0st> But thats okey. 15700 is still alot:p
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: damn right
[12:25] <raidgh0st> What is the diff from FGLRX (post-release-updates
[12:25] <raidgh0st> and the one without (post-release-updates)
[12:26] <yogg> Have someone an idea how i can get the dns server from dhcp, but not change the configuration of my interfaces?
[12:26] <iceroot> raidgh0st: apt-get changelog packagename
[12:27] <sipior> yogg: yes, you can specify exactly what information you'd like from the dhcp server. have a look at the dhclient.conf man page.
[12:28] <raidgh0st> iceroot: must be more spesific
[12:28] <ikonia> yogg: you tell the dhcp server to offer dns servers, however it is very unnormal to do this without offering an IP
[12:28] <yogg> sipior: thx
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yogg: do you not get IP via DHCP too?
[12:28] <iceroot> raidgh0st: apt-get source packagename  and then diff the packages
[12:29] <yogg> ikonia: i can't change anything on the dhcp server    i only can ask him for the dns servers ^^
[12:29] <ikonia> yogg: why are you trying to do this /
[12:30] <yogg> ikonia: I would not insert the dns servers not into my resolv,conf but in my "/etc/bind/named.conf.options" as forwarders
[12:31] <ikonia> yogg: that is not a dhcp option
[12:31] <ikonia> yogg: dhcp does not configure names.conf
[12:31] <yogg> i know
[12:31] <ikonia> yogg: ok, so what exactly are you trying to do and why ?
[12:31] <Antonis> anyone?
[12:32] <yogg> ikonia: i write an script that gets the dns servers from dhcp and write it to the bind conf as forwarders
[12:32] <iceroot> Antonis: fat32?
[12:32] <ikonia> yogg: do the dns servers change from dhcp or are they the same ones you get each time ?
[12:32] <Antonis> iceroot, no.. from ext4 to NTFS or from NTFS to NTFS
[12:32] <raidgh0st> seems like the post update is new
[12:33] <raidgh0st> and the other one is a old
[12:33] <iceroot> Antonis: any usefull errors when using cp on the shell?
[12:33] <iceroot> raidgh0st: the versions and changelogs will tell you
[12:33] <Antonis> iceroot, nothing everything works fine but it takes a hell of a time (that didn't happen before) and the whole system freezes in periods
[12:33] <rasmusth> guys
[12:33] <rasmusth> can any of you help me?
[12:33] <yogg> ikonia: i have something like an router. the router provides an dns server and must provide all dns informations behind him (forwarders). And the router moves from one network to another
[12:33] <rasmusth> my GFX is constantly not in use
[12:34] <iceroot> Antonis: is "top" showing a high value for "%wa"?
[12:34] <raidgh0st> Hurray. I got a error: Sorry, but the install failed. see logfile for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[12:34] <Antonis> iceroot, what is %wa?
[12:34] <ikonia> yogg: this does not sound lke a good solution
[12:34] <yogg> ikonia: what would be a better one?
[12:34] <ikonia> yogg: running a dns server on a changing ip network  is not good
[12:35] <iceroot> Antonis: the value for io-wait
[12:35] <raidgh0st> iceroot: http://login.kristshell.net/~raidghost/jockey.txt
[12:35] <yogg> ikonia: the network on the "lan" side does not change    only on the "wan" side
[12:35] <ikonia> yogg: that is bad then, you should not be running a local dns server on a machine that is changing WAN hosts
[12:35] <ikonia> yogg: use the dns servers provided for you, rather than running a local one
[12:36] <Antonis> iceroot, I am transfering files right now and top is running but nautilus is not there
[12:36] <yogg> ikonia: the local one is a must have. else it would not be possible to reach the webinterface of this "router" with "www.example.local"
[12:37] <ikonia> yogg: sorry, I disagree and I disagree with the solution.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> yogg: local dns makes web access faster. I always install dnsmasq on systems :)
[12:37] <ikonia> simpley put an entry in the host file for the router
[12:37] <Yanch0> guys anyone can help me set up a wifi pci card. the drivers have been installed using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 .. using wifiradar i can see the WEP connection im trying to connect to. however when i try to connect it keeps on connecting and no error yet it doesnt connect
[12:38] <dmorfin> ikonia: the thousands of people using dd-wrt (and dnsmasq) disagree with you ;)
[12:38] <spow> Hi, i'm hqving problems with unity on 11.10 so I installed and used gnome classic instead, but no icons appear on my desktop anymore, even though they still exist in the FS
[12:38] <yogg> ikonia: i have not found a better solution. but if you have an idea it would be nice :)
[12:38] <ikonia> yogg: just put an entry in your host file
[12:38] <yogg> ActionParsnip: yes dnsmasq was my first idea but i needed more
[12:39] <spow> I can't drag/drop files from anywhere to the desktop, and that zorked on unity
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> yogg: more what?
[12:40] <yogg> ActionParsnip: configuration options, and a own dns zone (example.local)
[12:40] <yogg> ikonia: can i change the host file on a other system over dhcp?
[12:40] <dmorfin> yogg: I had bind running like that for 10+ years, so I don't see the problem.  Just make sure you keep your forwarders in line with the wan network if possible.
[12:41] <spow> should I go back to 10.xx ?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yogg: you can set static DNS in network manager, set the interface to DHCP (address only) then set the DNS servers to: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> yogg: the hosts file isn't much to do with dhcp dude, it wil simply override dns
[12:42] <ikonia> yogg: no, but then you can't change anything over DHCP as you said you can't change the dhcp server
[12:42] <yogg> dmorfin: the problem was to get the dns servers from the dhcp server and do not change any interface configuration. But with dhclient.conf i can manage it
[12:43] <yogg> ActionParsnip: ikonia: dmorfin: i write down what my device should do. Takes a few minutes :)
[12:44] <raidgh0st> I gonna be in the light.
[12:45] <dmorfin> yogg: I had my dhcp server set to send dns as just my local dns server.  everything worked fine, even when I switched wan networks.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> yogg: if you use dnsmasq, you will need to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf to till it to listen to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <dmorfin> yogg: and yes, as ActionParsnip says, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are decent forwarders, assuming your different wan networks have different dns, and you can't switch easily
[12:46] <rasmusth> This driver is activated but not currently in use. How do I fix this problem?
[12:46] <ravedog> anyone that is a cfengine guru here?
[12:47] <almoxarife> rasmusth: that's a bug, i see the same thing and mine is in use, google it
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> yogg: over time, dnsmasq will learn most of the resolutions you need :)
[12:48] <rasmusth> almoxarife: I dont understand why xbmc would use 100% cpu in menu then
[12:48] <Antonis> so iceroot any ideas?
[12:48] <raidgh0st> ActionParsnip: for some seconds i thought you said "dmesg will learn mo9st of the resolutions you need :p
[12:49] <raidgh0st> I really see a diff from p4 2.2Ghz 4Gb ram and a i5 3.0Ghz with ssd
[12:49] <Antonis> could it be the way I mount the ntfs drives?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: heheh
[12:49] <iceroot> Antonis: not really
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: put your browser web cache in tempfs or on a platter based drive
[12:50] <iceroot> Antonis: you are using ntfs-3g? can you show the complete mount-options? "mount" will show them
[12:50] <Antonis> iceroot, give me a second cause I am moving files right now and everything freezes
[12:51] <Yanch0> all i'm seeing in dmesg | tail is : [  737.468271] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: it'll reduce wear on the SSD as well as speed up web browsing
[12:51] <iceroot> Antonis: ok
[12:52] <almoxarife> rasmusth: can't say, I don't see the same cpu hogging, btw, does xbmc see the gpu?
[12:52] <Antonis> iceroot, should I paste them here or somewhere else? or do you want just one of them?
[12:53] <rasmusth> almoxarife: no
[12:53] <yogg> ikonia: ActionParsnip: dmorfin: I hope this explains my problem better: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/519673/
[12:54] <almoxarife> rasmusth: do you have the bios option to force the gpu rather the onboard? assuming you have that setup?
[12:55] <rasmusth> I have only one gpu
[12:55] <rasmusth> no onboard
[12:55] <Antonis> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/767838/
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> yogg: bad link afaics, can you PM the text :)
[12:56] <dr_willis> xbmc does use fancy compositing and other eye candy i recall.  never noticed it being much of a load on my nvidia systems.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> yogg: my admins are strict and the proxy hates pastebins
[12:56] <Mitos> hi
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> hi Mitos
[12:56] <html> hi
[12:57] <Antonis> also iceroot I use a tool to automount them (in ubuntu 10.10 I did it myself through fstab)
[12:57] <rasmusth> would the fact that I boot to 2D have anything to say?
[12:57] <iceroot> Antonis: sorry i am busy at the moment i will try to look through it later
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <Mitos> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 in virtualbox... If I set 2 network card(one nat and one internal network) connections don't work... If I set only Nat connection works...
[12:57] <Antonis> ok no problem just let me know when you can =)
[12:59] <Mitos> maybe I need special package... I use ubuntu minimal...
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: how are you defining the network addressing?
[13:00] <Mitos> internal network: <IP_ADDRESS> subnet <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: no, what are you using to set the address, not what is the address
[13:01] <Mitos> I used vboxmanage.exe dhcpclient add etc...
[13:01] <Mitos> With ifconfig I saw the network cards, eth0 and eth1, with right ip and subnet...
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: so all the addressing comes from dhcp?
[13:02] <Mitos> yes, from dhcp...
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: you may need to set the internal as static so it doesn't get a default gateway set
[13:04] <Mitos> with lubuntu desktop edition I haven't problems... I use the same configuration, with two cards, and I don't have problems...
[13:04] <Mitos> can you explain better your solution please?
[13:05] <rasmusth> how can I test if my gfx is being used on ubuntu 11.10
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: if your system has 2 default gateways it will get confused
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: run 3d things like games
[13:06] <Mitos> How can test if I have two gateway???
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: ifconfig; route    should tell you a lot
[13:07] <Mitos> one moment :)
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Mitos  type dig
[13:07] <fa1c0n> :(
[13:08] <html> dhcp what mean , and whats it do?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> html  dhcp gives ip addresses to your network devices
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> html  dhcp means dynamic host control protocol or something
[13:09] <Mitos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/767847/
[13:11] <querier> Hi :) What is the very basic list of packages ubuntu needs to run? I dont mind if e.g. libreoffice is turned off/deleted
[13:11] <dr_willis> !minimal
[13:11] <dr_willis> querier:  depends on what you want running. :) X or not.. and so on.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> querier: you can install ubuntu minimal then install openbox for a very small install
[13:12] <Mitos> ActionParsnip Did you see my paste???
[13:13] <querier> dr_willis: yes X is fine. ActionParsnip well ubuntu is installed and should be slimmed now.
[13:13] <DarkStar1> how do I add myself to the admin group?
[13:13] <llutz> DarkStar1: if you aren't root and no sudo-user, you can't
[13:14] <llutz> DarkStar1: sudo adduser username admin
[13:14] <DarkStar1> llutz: thx
[13:14] <diverdude> Hello...is there a better interface than the unity and gnome in ubuntu?
[13:14] <luis_> hi there, wanted some support on some trouble with suspend: when trying to do it, goes to black screen and then back to the userspace. here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/767854/
[13:15] <searching> firefox type ubuntu % hit enter and no list why? is bug?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: i cant view pasts, my admins have clamped down the web to the maxxx
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: can you PM me the text please
[13:16] <mick_laptop> diverdude: there are a few, there is xfce, kde and there are others. google: linux window manager and look at youtube/image search
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> luis_: what GPU are you using?
[13:16] <luis_> ActionParsnip, how can I figure that out?
[13:17] <mick_laptop> searching: I don't understand
[13:17] <Mitos> Is it possible from webchat to send you PM???
[13:17] <searching> type ubuntu and % in firefox
[13:17] <luis_> ActionParsnip, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[13:17] <searching> and hit enter
[13:18] <html> moneydust thanks
[13:18] <html> \
[13:18] <searching> open google with firefox and type ubuntu % hit enter
[13:18] <mick_laptop> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[13:18] <searching> no list :))
[13:18] <mick_laptop> no list of what?
[13:19] <searching> of searching
[13:19] <DarkStar1> llutz: added my user to the admin group and uncommented the admin line in sudoers but i still can't sudo from my user
[13:19] <llutz> DarkStar1: relogin
[13:19] <mick_laptop> it opens up google and does a search for "ubuntu %"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | luis_
[13:19] <searching> yes
[13:19] <DarkStar1> llutz: as my user I have already relogged
[13:20] <mick_laptop> searching: that is the expected result
[13:20] <searching> something ubuntu,linux
[13:20] <llutz> DarkStar1: "uncommented the admin line in sudoers"  why was it commented?
[13:20] <searching> no result
[13:20] <luis_> thanks ActionParsnip, could this be interfering with hibernation too? cause i'm having the same problem with it
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> luis_: doubt it
[13:21] <mick_laptop> searching: what exactly are you expecting to happen. give me a sentence not a word
[13:21] <DarkStar1> llutz: I assume the % sign meant it's a commented line. but it was the default installation
[13:22] <llutz> DarkStar1: its not a comment, its a group. change it BACK
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> DarkStar1  # is a commented line
[13:22] <luis_> could you help me with that too ActionParsnip? i've posted a bug, but no response so far
[13:22] <luis_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898615
[13:22] <DarkStar1> llutz:  oops!
[13:29] <luis_> i'm needing help with an hibernation problem.  i've posted a bug, but no response so far https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898615
[13:32] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> luis_: does suspend work?
[13:33] <luis_> didn't tried yet
[13:33] <luis_> was waiting for an answer on the hibernate problem
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> luis_: its teh same ilk so if that works then it will be useful to add to the bug...
[13:34] <luis_> oh ok, ActionParsnip , i'll give it a try and then come back here
[13:38] <super789> hello
[13:38] <super789> where can i find the compatible pci wirelesse card to Lubuntu?
[13:38] <super789> *the list
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[13:38] <Mitos> thanks to ActionParsnip... I solved my problem... I add to /etc/network/interfaces auto eth1;iface eth1 inet dhcp
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: nice
[13:39] <Loqus_> In Ubuntu how do I set the MAC address of a VLAN interface?
[13:39] <super789> Lubuntu haves the same support has ubuntu?
[13:39] <iceroot> Loqus_: you cant (imo) its always the mac from the real NIC
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> super789: yes its an official release now :)
[13:39] <iceroot> super789: wtih 11.10 yes
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Loqus_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[13:39] <Monotoko> super789, there isn't a list as such... but most PCI wifi cards should be compatible
[13:40] <Mitos> I don't understand why ubuntu doesn't released with no program... I don't need office,games,calc...
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Loqus_: or that way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022301
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: use minimal then and install only what you need, its what I do
[13:40] <Monotoko> Mitos, because the majority of people want it to just work out of the box... the good thing about Linux though is you can build a distro, and there are thousands out there
[13:41] <Mitos> I use minimal but it needs too work...
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: it will
[13:41] <dagerik> when i call execvp("ps", args); the newly formed process never exits. how can i exit it?
[13:42] <wide_awake> good morning
[13:42] <Pici> dagerik: That would be a more appropriate question for ##C
[13:42] <wide_awake> how can I tell unity to open a second instance of an app (specifically nautilus)
[13:43] <Mitos> bye :)
[13:43] <Loqus_> Thanks ActionParsnip... I know I can change it on a physical MAC, but I wasn't sure how it would work on a VLAN MAC... when changing a physical MAC, the Interface's HW MAC register is changed so that outgoing frames are generated with the new MAC (on restart this is reset on the HW, then changed back by the OS on config)... but on a VLAN does it dynamically change the frame SRC MAC register with each outgoing frame, or does it do so
[13:43] <theadmin> wide_awake: It doesn't do that... Try Ctrl+T in Nautilus and such other shortcuts. Nautilus is tabbed for a reason :P
[13:44] <wide_awake> theadmin, I hate to admit, but I never knew that nautilus was tabbed before ;)
[13:44] <wide_awake> theadmin, thanks!
[13:44] <theadmin> wide_awake: np
[13:44] <geet> hello I need help in adding pthread library to gcc
[13:45] <super789> i can buy the TL-WN851N but in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link it appears that is haves some problems in 11.04 but i have 11.10 lubuntu. how can i know if the problem has been fixed?
[13:45] <luis_> ActionParsnip, nomodeset didn't work. It even disabled high resolution and Unity 3d
[13:45] <geet> Hello...Need Help
[13:45] <querier> theadmin: nautilus doesnt want you to drag and drop with 2 open windows?
[13:45] <dr_willis> cant just middle click on the nautilus icon?
[13:46] <dr_willis> F3 in nautilus also opens a split window i belive
[13:46] <BarkingFish> geet, have patience. If you wait for a while, someone will get round to helping you :)
[13:46] <dr_willis> geet:  thers also more programming specific chennels
[13:47] <geet> can u recommend one?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> super789: check bug reports, personally I wouldn't bother if its had issues, look for broadcom based ones. Cheap and easy
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> geet  you could start by asking a question
[13:47] <geet> I need help for adding pthread.h in gcc
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> geet  that's no question
[13:48] <geet> I want to know how can I add that library
[13:48] <geirha> geet: What do you mean by "add that library"?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> geet  too vague, start from the beginning, what do you want to do and what is the purpose
[13:49] <geet> I get error "Undefined reference to pthread_create()
[13:50] <geirha> geet: gcc -lpthread ...
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> super789: my Netgear WG311T works out of the box:)
[13:50] <geet> but this wont compile my program
[13:51] <super789> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:51] <jordanm> geet: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search /pthread.h
[13:51] <Yanch0> guys anyone can help me set up a wifi pci card. the drivers have been installed using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 .. using wifiradar i can see the WEP connection im trying to connect to. however when i try to connect it keeps on connecting and no error yet it doesnt connect . all im seeing in dmesg | tail is : [  737.468271] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[13:51] <NYPR-1> Hi: I need some guidance on how to install and get my WiFi card working.  I have an old Presario laptop and have found the correct driver.  I do not have the instruction to run the the file. I know that I need to go to the terminal but once there I am lost.
[13:52] <geirha> jordanm: I'm pretty sure libc6-dev gets installed along with gcc
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> NYPR-1: if you run: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i produ     what is output?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Yanch0  NYPR-1 explore the terminal commands iwlist and iwconfig
[13:53] <jordanm> geirha: it should, since its a recommends, but it is possible that it has not. if the user has changed their apt configuration
[13:53] <luis_> ActionParsnip, nomodeset didn't work. It even disabled widescreen resolution and switched to Unity 2D
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Yanch0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/459716
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> luis_: could try the alternate install, install in text mode
[13:53] <Guest43654> Yanch0: that often happens to me whenever I forget to take my device out of monitor mode and put it into managed mode
[13:54] <jordanm> geirha: aptitude install gcc -R will get you gcc without libc6-dev
[13:54] <Yanch0> happygolucky, how to do that please?
[13:55] <geirha> jordanm: Ah, right. Though a missing header file would give a different error. I really think he just hadn't linked the library.
[13:55] <luis_> ActionParsnip, what do you mean by alternate install? this is not a problem on installing. The hibernate and suspend worked perfectly before updating to 11.10 .
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luis_: there may be a safemode vga option in the boot
[13:55] <geirha> jordanm: But, we'll probably never know now :)
[13:55] <luis_> ActionParsnip, I can check that, but as far as I recall there isn't
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luis_: maybe the upgrade borked it, could try a clean install
[13:56] <Yanch0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/767896/ <= im trying to connect to Cell 03
[13:56] <luis_> ActionParsnip, there's no way to work around the problem? it wasn't a direct 11.10 install, but a 11.04 update
[13:57] <luis_> ActionParsnip, it seems like there is some process preventing the suspension
[13:57] <happygolucky> Yanch0: hm, well try ifconfig <device> down and then iwconfig <device> mode managed and then ifconfig <device> up and then if it still doesn't connect try changing the cards channel to 6 or whaterver it needs to be
[13:58] <luis_> ActionParsnip, because when i log in with other user (command line) it works
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> luis_: have you added that to the bug?
[13:59] <luis_> what i wanted is some way to detect and troubleshoot that. the logs won't give me even the slightest idea of what is happening
[13:59] <luis_> i'm adding it right away
[14:00] <luis_> what's getting me crazy is that it works some times and other times not.
[14:01] <cockerino> ciao
[14:01] <cockerino> !list
[14:01] <cockerino> send list
[14:02] <bbbbbbbb> is there a way to stop network manager for the current session?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !it | cockerino
[14:04] <happygolucky> bbbbbbbb: service network-manager stop
[14:05] <bbbbbbbb> happygolucky: thanks!
[14:05] <happygolucky> bbbbbbbb: you're welcome np
[14:06] <nixmaniack> is it ok to make '/etc/pm/power.d/01cpu_online'  non executable? My CPUs go offline quite often
[14:06] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[14:07] <chao> i'm using xfce
[14:09] <yogg> "dhclient -n" "-n Do not configure any interfaces.". If i do this the command does nothing. it simply hangs and does not request an address. Is this a bug (Ubuntu 10.04.3)?
[14:10] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[14:10] <DarkStar1> quick question, if I want to store some alias commands should I leave them in the .profile or create the bash_profile? I read in .profile that creating a bash_profile will cause .profile to be ignored
[14:10] <sipior> yogg: it's doing what you told it to do; i.e., nothing :-)
[14:10] <cockerino> ciao
[14:11] <cockerino> xdcc list
[14:11] <yogg> sipior: it should not make an configuration, but it should send an dhcp request
[14:11] <sipior> yogg: not according to the man page.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> cockerino, no downloads here !
[14:12] <yogg> sipior: "Do not configure any interfaces."  I saw in launchpad that there have been some related issues. Do I need to report this?
[14:15] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  one of those config files mention an .alias file you can put them in.
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  italians use internet for file sharing only, they have no 'internet culture'
[14:15] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  ~/.bash_aliases
[14:15] <super789> dr_willis: condering that the connection only allow 300kpbs thoes 54mpbs will never be in full use
[14:15] <super789> or it is diferent tpes of speed?
[14:16] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: that aliases file doesn't exist so I guess I'll have to create it. Thx
[14:16] <xsaidx> hello g guys what does this package  libgl1-mesa-swx11
[14:16] <CrazyThinker> I cannot see all the notification icons even if I set the dconf settings as ['all']
[14:16] <sipior> yogg: hmm. might be useful: http://pydhcplib.tuxfamily.org/pmwiki/ , or http://code.google.com/p/dhquery/
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> xsaidx  type apt-cache policy [package]
[14:17] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, my understanding is that they've led to beleive that ubuntu chat is a file sharing room ny some misinformed Italian publication, or it's just a nasty tricj on the mags part :P.
[14:17] <sipior> yogg: there's also dhcping, in the repositories. i haven't tried that, but you might look into it.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> xsaidx  or type apt-cache search [package]
[14:17] <diverdude> ahhhhh after 2 months in mac hell I'm BACK on ubuntu :D
[14:17] <BluesKaj> err trick
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  i've heard that italians use irc channels mainly to get information about file sharing
[14:18] <Hotkeys> I am using ubuntu 11.10 desktop. I cannot get my programs to save to our network share.  I can  write to the share drive with nautilus by cut/pasting from anywhere on my local machine. This is a clean install of 11.10 and libreoffice generates input/output error when trying to save to the share. The share is hosted on Centos. If I run libreoffice as sudo, it fixes the problem, and saves to the share. The problem is I don't want to run my programs suc
[14:19] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, not all italians who use the internet, those who speak english seem to know better
[14:20] <Pici> !ot  | BluesKaj MonkeyDust
[14:20] <happygolucky> Hotkeys: have you checked the integrity of the target machine, you're saying input output erroring, sounds bad
[14:20] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[14:20] <Hotkeys> happygolucky this is our corporate network share. Nobody else is having problems and I can save to it fine using sudo
[14:21] <yogg> sipior: thx   dhcping looks good i hope i get something out ^^
[14:21] <xsaidx> guys in natty can i install galuim-based driver and which package shud i install thanks
[14:21] <sipior> yogg: actually, if you dig into the dhclient.conf man page, there might be another option. you could use the "request" option, and then "supercede" all the answers you get. the information would still be received on your end (just ignored)
[14:21] <jpolo> hi everybody
[14:21] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  look in .gvfs for the mounted directory of the share. try saveing to it that way
[14:22] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  you can save to a samba share via sudo? thats very.... weird...
[14:22] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  or is it a nfs share?
[14:22] <jpolo> I am stuck at the "checking battery state" at boot time can some one help me please?
[14:23] <yogg> sipior: i have an dhclient.conf with only "request domain-name-servers;". but it still reconfigures my interface after the request
[14:25] <Deep> hi, i am on ubuntu, trying to install a video editor, and it says the only way its by Launchpad repo
[14:25] <Deep> anyone knows how to use it?
[14:26] <mick_laptop> anyone know how I can bridge a wifi and ethernet connection?  wifirouter -> wlan0 (laptop) -> eth0 (laptop) -----shared to -----> eth0 (desktop)
[14:27] <xangua> Deep: open software center from the dash
[14:27] <mick_laptop> I tried to use NetworkManager and select "shared to other computers" under eth0 and so far nothing
[14:27] <mick_laptop> I've also checked ip forwarding in the kernel, it is enabled
[14:28] <mick_laptop> I'd like the desktop to get a dhcp lease from the router (bridged from the laptop's wifi)