[01:54] <Jucato> incorrect: you can select some text from pdf's using kpdf too, if that's what you meant
[01:54] <waylandbill> incorrect: be allocate time to proofread any pdf to text conversion.
[01:54] <incorrect> Jucato: yes, but i only seem to be able to get an image of the text
[01:55] <waylandbill> sometimes text can be selected. It depends if the page has been rendered into text or graphically. The graphic page would require text capture first.
[01:55] <incorrect> waylandbill: good point! thanks
[01:55] <incorrect> i am not too fussy if its wrong
[01:56] <waylandbill> IIRC, adobe's site or another one offered to capture the text of graphical rendered pages, but was limited to one page or something.
[01:56] <Jucato> incorrect: if the pdf was rendered into text, as waylandbill pointed out, once you select a group of text (using a selection box that looks like your selecting files/folders), a popup will appear telling you how many characters you have selected
[01:56] <incorrect> ah
[01:57] <incorrect> im blind
[01:57] <Jucato> incorrect: atlernatively, a quick search in Adept or apt-get for "pdf" will yield dozens of PDF tools that will probably help you
[01:58] <waylandbill> basically the process is the same as OCR so the document has to have good dpi at the very least for any capture tools to pick up the text.
[01:58] <incorrect> yeah i have found them all
[01:58] <incorrect> thank you so much ! :) i have pulled out all the images too
[01:58] <Jucato> :P
[01:59] <incorrect> serious :) i couldn't see what i wanted,  always when its right in front of you can you not see it
[02:01] <ForgeAus> Jucato whats the boot process for Kubuntu after loading the kernel from grub?
[02:01] <ForgeAus> what part of it actually prompts kubuntu to start kdm?
[02:02] <Jucato>  /etc/init.d/kdm ?
[02:02] <Jucato> incorrect: we usually can't see immediately what's under our noses :D
[02:02] <ForgeAus> hmmm thats there
[02:03] <ForgeAus> so why does it boot into TTY instead of kdm?
[02:04] <Jucato> ForgeAus: login to  tty, type startx
[02:04] <ForgeAus> yeah I do
[02:04] <ForgeAus> every time
[02:04] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: tecnically, I think it is /etc/rc3.d/S13kdm
[02:04] <Jucato> might be an X issue
[02:04] <Ace2016> Hi all
[02:04] <Ace2016> can someone help me with git
[02:04] <ForgeAus> yup thats there too
[02:04] <Ace2016> i'm trying to get xgl from a git repo
[02:05] <Ace2016> i think thats what git does
[02:05] <waylandbill> probably X problem as jucato said
[02:05] <Jucato> ForgeAus: so when you type "startx", you're able to get into KDE?
[02:05] <ForgeAus> well actually what I do instead of startx
[02:05] <ForgeAus> I login
[02:05] <Ace2016> http://pastebin.co.uk/10991
[02:05] <Ace2016> Thats the error
[02:05] <ForgeAus> I I type sudo -i
[02:05] <Jucato> Ace2016: git, like svn and cvs, allows you to download a "snapshot" of the source code
[02:05] <Ace2016> what odo i do
[02:05] <ForgeAus> then run kdm manually
[02:06] <Ace2016> Jucato: what do i do with that error?
[02:06] <ForgeAus> so startx doesn't actually say anything
[02:06] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what happens when you "startx" as a normal user?
[02:06] <ForgeAus> not entirely sure do I have to logout to try it?
[02:06] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: you'd have to stop kdm to try it.
[02:06] <_eMaX_> re
[02:06] <Jucato> Ace2016: you'd have to ask the guys from Beryl or Git
[02:07] <ForgeAus> how do you stop kdm?
[02:07] <Ace2016> ok
[02:07] <ForgeAus> from within kdm?
[02:07] <ForgeAus> erm sorry within kde anyhow
[02:07] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you have to log out, login to a tty, then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[02:07] <ForgeAus> isn't kdm meant to be running in the b/g ?
[02:07] <_eMaX_> all: when I login to kde I keep getting a yellow hint that an application had previously crashed. I am very uninterested. Actually whether or not I click "ignore", the same message keeps reappearing at the next logon. Is there a way to get rid of this functionality?
[02:07] <ForgeAus> Jucato I'll try it manually next time I reset but I'm not going ot reset now just to try that
[02:08] <Jucato> _eMaX_: it would help if you read which application has crashed or why
[02:08] <Jucato> ForgeAus: sure. do it at your convenient time
[02:08] <ForgeAus> thanx for your help anyway I'll get back to you with what it tells me - if anything
[02:08] <_eMaX_> well yes it is evolution, and it was intended to crash :)
[02:08] <_eMaX_> in fact it was killed...
[02:08] <ForgeAus> using startx instead of running kdm as root
[02:08] <Jucato> _eMaX_: you have evolution installed, set to autostart, but crashes at each login?
[02:08] <_eMaX_> no
[02:09] <ForgeAus> btw just curious am I meant to be able to log in as root?
[02:09] <_eMaX_> I ran it a while ago (2 days ago) and it crashed / was killed.
[02:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: on Kubuntu? no
[02:09] <_eMaX_> the message reappears noneteless
[02:09] <ForgeAus> ahh thats interesting
[02:09] <ForgeAus> so you MUST sudo for root?
[02:09] <Jucato> ForgeAus: not login graphically as root. but kdm needs to be start with studo
[02:09] <Jucato> !sudo | ForgeAus
[02:09] <ubotu> ForgeAus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:10] <Jucato> everything you need to know ^^^
[02:10] <ForgeAus> hehe thats what I"m afraid of... everything I need to know but no extras I might wanna know :)
[02:10] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the extras are there too
[02:10] <ForgeAus> thanx
[02:11] <_eMaX_> Jucato: and I really don't care about evolution crashing; in fact I kill it using evolution --force-shutdown at every start, as its subprocesses keep dying from time to time when using the exchange connector. I just don't want to be remembered of the fact that it crashed, because it did on purpose
[02:12] <bxnp> what is the command do bring up the panel cause its gone on my system
[02:12] <Jucato> bxnp: Alt+F2, "kicker"
[02:12] <bxnp> could not run the specified command Jucato
[02:13] <Jucato> bxnp: without the quotes
[02:13] <bxnp> i did
[02:13] <Jucato> O.o
[02:13] <Jucato> no capital letters? just plain kicker
[02:13] <Jucato> ah ok.. hm..
[02:13] <Jucato> Alt+F2, dcop kicker kicker restart
[02:13] <Jucato> then Ctrl+Esc and check if the kicker process is running
[02:15] <bxnp> nope kicker is not running afther i did the command Jucato
[02:15] <bxnp> the strange thing is i cant find kicker on my system anymore
[02:16] <_eMaX_> Jucato: it seems to be this apport-qt not remembering that I told him to ignore that applicationn
[02:16] <bxnp> Jucato: it says call failed when i do that in the konsole
[02:16] <Jucato> bxnp: check if kicker is installed
[02:16] <Jucato> _eMaX_: hm.. feisty?
[02:16] <bxnp> well it was yesterday, but i left my laptop running out of battery and when i restarted kicker was gone
[02:16] <jay> hey crimsun, any luck with the sound card... i boot up this morning and it still doesn't work.
[02:17] <jay> am beginnin 2 get worried
[02:17] <Jucato> bxnp: check if kicker is still installed
[02:17] <_eMaX_> Jucato: yes
[02:17] <bxnp> lol its not installed, very strange
[02:18] <Jucato> _eMaX_: ah, better ask in #ubuntu+1 coz apport doesn't come to Kubuntu till feisty
[02:19] <Forge> um all that does is leave me with more questions!
[02:19] <bxnp> in wich package is kicker Jucato
[02:19] <Jucato> bxnp: kicker :D
[02:19] <waylandbill> :)
[02:20] <ForgeAus> it doesn't seem to explain anything about why root isn't a valid user at the login tty prompt...
[02:20] <ForgeAus> it also seems to contradict itself
[02:20] <ForgeAus> sayinng sudo -i is neither supported or necessary... yet everything that requires everything those priveleges can be done by sudo (or kdesu) anyway... whats the difference?
[02:20] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what do you mean?
[02:20] <ForgeAus> sudo is sudo
[02:20] <Jucato> O.o
[02:20] <bxnp> oke Jucato i do apt-get install kicker --reinstall
[02:21] <bxnp> cause when i do just apt-get install kicker it says its already installed
[02:21] <waylandbill> bxnp: yup
[02:21] <Jucato> root isn't a valid user at login prompts because there is basically no root user (or root isn't enabled)
[02:21] <Jucato> ForgeAus: ^^^
[02:21] <Jucato> more precisely, X (and KDE) on Kubuntu have been setup not to work with a root user.
[02:21] <ForgeAus> By default, the root account is locked in Ubuntu.
[02:22] <waylandbill> it's login capability is disabled is probably the most accurate way to describe it
[02:22] <ForgeAus> which means there is one (it couldn't be locked if one didn't exist)
[02:23] <waylandbill> yes. there is one.
[02:23] <Jucato> no one said that root didn't exist
[02:23] <ForgeAus> hmm so that means even if I did get Xnest to ask for a login screen it wouldn't let me login as root anyway...
[02:23] <Jucato> it's just *virtually* non-existent
[02:23] <thomax_> ForgeAus: you can enable root acc in "login manager" in kcontrol
[02:23] <waylandbill> ForgeAus: correct.
[02:23] <Jucato> thomax_: it's going to take more than that
 root isn't a valid user at login prompts because there is basically no root user (or root isn't enabled)
[02:24] <thomax_> Jucato: probably, but I never tried it :) so I don't really know :p
[02:24] <ForgeAus> I kinda read that - there basically is no root user as that one didn't exist...
[02:24] <waylandbill> a password has to be assigned to root before it can be used at login prompts.
[02:24] <Jucato> ForgeAus: that's why I said "basically" and the *or*
[02:25] <ForgeAus> so my sudo pass isn't a root pass?
[02:25] <Jucato> waylandbill: plus X has to be configured to allow graphical root login
[02:25] <Jucato> ForgeAus: no
[02:25] <bxnp> oke thanks guys, i have kicker back
[02:25] <waylandbill> correct.
[02:25] <thomax_> ForgeAus: assign pass to root with "sudo passwd"
[02:25] <ForgeAus> ahhh thats making more sense...
[02:26] <waylandbill> Jucato: right.
[02:26] <bxnp> brb, to see if its comming up when i relogin from kdm
[02:26] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the password that sudo accepts is the password of the user who called sudo *if* that user is part of the sudoers group, the group that can use sudo, which in Kubuntu, is the "admin" group
[02:26] <ForgeAus> ok now I don't get why have a sudo pass if its the same as the user pass anyway...
[02:26] <Jucato> ForgeAus: there  is no separate sudo password
[02:27] <ForgeAus> so its an administartor password to act as root?
[02:27] <Jucato> yesh
[02:27] <Jucato> to *temporarily* act as root
[02:27] <thomax_> ForgeAus: first user to be set up is considdered admin and automatically added to the admin group
[02:27] <ForgeAus> its essentially the same as logging in as root
[02:27] <ForgeAus> ok temporarily sure
[02:28] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it might look like logging in as root (or using the "su -c" command), but technically it isn't
[02:28] <waylandbill> it's mainly so noone walks up to your terminal when you are in the restroom and does sudo as you.
[02:29] <ForgeAus> Jucato yeah because it doesn't use the root password... seems awfully strange security wise
[02:29] <ForgeAus> that someone could login and act as root without knowing a root password
[02:29] <Jucato> thomax_: or the other way around.. (first user is added to the admin group so it's considered admin) :D
[02:29] <waylandbill> although it is entirely possible to set up sudo to not even ask for a password.
[02:29] <Jucato> ForgeAus: the one using sudo must know a password. YOUR password
[02:30] <waylandbill> which you are not likely to be giving out
[02:30] <ErunnoWTF> Hi there. does anyone know how to revert the Kubuntu desktop back to the installation defaults ?
[02:30] <ForgeAus> Jucato in the past I assumed that was the root password which was why it was required to use root priveleges... etc...
[02:31] <Jucato> well, now you know :)
[02:31] <ForgeAus> but now its all screwy
[02:31] <Jucato> it's not really as screwy as you think
[02:31] <Jucato> it just so happened that your previous presumption was screwed :D
[02:31] <ForgeAus> using a user password to access root priveleges is messign with my head
[02:31] <waylandbill> :)
[02:31] <om3ga> for some reason my channel list isnt showing the channels today
[02:32] <ForgeAus> also if thats the case... why ask for it? its already been given in KDM anyway right?
[02:32] <ForgeAus> or TTY login
[02:32] <Jucato> then I can only imagine what memorizing 2 separate passwords would do to your head..
[02:32] <Jucato> huh?
[02:32] <Jucato> security measures
[02:32] <ForgeAus> lol ahh but I'd set them to the same string
[02:32] <Jucato> sudo is meant for one command alone. as a "nice" feature, it can remember that you entered the password for a set amount of time
[02:33] <Jucato> also, sudo doesn't "
[02:33] <Jucato> also, sudo doesn't "read" into your login process
[02:33] <ForgeAus> Jucato so your saying KDE assumes the user is an erm "foreign"?? one... rather than the one that logged into the machine?
[02:33] <Jucato> ??
[02:33] <waylandbill> and then forgets about it, so that physical access would have to be made in a short period of time to gain access.
[02:34] <crystufer2000> Okay, so how do I make it so that anyone can log into my samba share without a username or password?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> lol Jucato... when I run a command.... Kubuntu assumes I'm not the user that installed kubuntu onto the system...
[02:35] <Jucato> hm?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> which is why sudo is required to run say adept or modify the filesystem at a level above /home/<username>
[02:36] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: you can set that up in the control center, network, samba dialog
[02:36] <crystufer2000> Hooray sudo!
[02:36] <yaccin> lomoco doesnt recognize my mouse o.O
[02:37] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you need to run Adept w/ kdesu (not sudo) because it will be using apt-get, which, in turn, will be installing and writing stuff into root-owned directories, like /usr and /etc
[02:37] <yaccin> !lomoco
[02:37] <ubotu> lomoco: Logitech Mouse Control for USB mice. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0beta1+1.0-4 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 124 kB
[02:37] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: Mine doesn't ave a smaba dialog.
[02:37] <ForgeAus> Jucato yes true but thats a technicality thats not what I meant... kdesu is just the gui version of sudo anyway... basically...
[02:38] <yaccin> ForgeAus: for securityreasons
[02:38] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes. and that's what I meant. you use sudo for programs/commands that needs to be able to modify root-owned files/directories
[02:38] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Start kcontrol via alt-f2, is has the missing kcontrol elemsnts including samba
[02:38] <yaccin> but you can always chmod every other file (with sudo) to make it accessable with another user
[02:38] <yaccin> but i wont suggest that
[02:38] <Jucato> you already did...
[02:39] <ForgeAus> lol yaccin
[02:39] <ForgeAus> I'm not going to
[02:39] <yaccin> -suggest + reccomend
[02:39] <Jucato> ForgeAus: don't do what yaccin wasn't suggesting :D
[02:39] <Jucato> or wasn't recommending
[02:39] <yaccin> :D
[02:40] <ForgeAus> I just wish it were easier, that I didn't need to use a password to install things and to copy/move files etc...
[02:40] <Jucato> er..
[02:40] <ForgeAus> ie fstab when something empties it...
[02:40] <Jucato> the former will be a security/stablity risk, the latter is probably a bug
[02:40] <yaccin> ForgeAus: then use windows :P
[02:40] <ForgeAus> I can understand if I were using it as a multiuser system that I'd want to block some people and allow others
[02:40] <ForgeAus> but I'm a single user...
[02:40] <crystufer2000> ErunnoWTF: Thank you sir.
[02:40] <ForgeAus> yaccin... I did...
[02:40] <ForgeAus> it broke
[02:40] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it's also meant to protect you from yourself
[02:41] <ForgeAus> or rather I broke it...
[02:41] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: Thank you as well, sir.
[02:41] <ForgeAus> two of them actaully
[02:41] <yaccin> ForgeAus: this also blocks possible hackers and virusses from doing stuff you dont want to
[02:41] <crystufer2000> btw, who is nobody?
[02:41] <yaccin> thats why this is for
[02:41] <ForgeAus> yaccin yes... I've heard that too
[02:41] <yaccin> you cant brake linux that easy ^^
 or rather I broke it... <--- and yet you want full power to break your machine again?
[02:42] <crystufer2000> Like why do I have a nobody acoount?
[02:42] <Jucato> or are you one of those guys who take pleasure in breaking every possible setup? O.o
[02:42] <ForgeAus> yeah but the windows break wasn't like that
[02:42] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: the user account that is never allowed to login. never intended to is probably more accurate.
[02:42] <ForgeAus> I don't TRY to break things..
[02:42] <yaccin> its bad enough that you dont need a password before you can shift-del a file from your home directory :D
[02:42] <ForgeAus> I try to get things working, (but sure sometimes they're things that don't normally work/apply to that system)
[02:42] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: So it''s an okay idea to make nobody my samba login account if I decide I want one?
[02:43] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes you don't try. doesn't mean you won't *accidentally* break things. which is what an admin setup protects you from
[02:43] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: nobody is a "least-access" acount. Some daemons use it to minimize access to the rest of the OS
[02:43] <ForgeAus> well its not exactly by accident either
[02:43] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: you're probably wanting a 'guest' account for samba.
[02:43] <ForgeAus> its by doing something I intend to do, but the intention is to run something rather than break ... it just happens to be a side-effect of somethings I try sometimes...
[02:44] <Jucato> doesn't that sound like an accident?
[02:44] <ErunnoWTF> waylandbill: Istn't guest mapped to nobody ?
[02:44] <Jucato> something you didn't intend to happen?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> ie I dind't want to BREAK my Windows... it just happened
[02:44] <ForgeAus> exactly
[02:44] <crystufer2000> waylandbill: so you'd say i should make a new account named guest?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> I'll fix it... at some stage
[02:44] <steven__> hallo
[02:44] <ForgeAus> when I'm happy I can safely do so
[02:44] <steven__> ich brauch mal hielfe??!!
[02:45] <yaccin> !de | steven__
[02:45] <ubotu> steven__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:45] <Jucato> !de | steven__
[02:45] <Jucato> bah
[02:45] <ForgeAus> but for now Kubuntu seems to be serving me well enough
[02:45] <yaccin> (aber ich helf dir auch so :P
[02:45] <ForgeAus> I like it actually
[02:45] <steven__> i spken not englisch sorry
[02:46] <steven__> gut bey
[02:46] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: the samba dialog I mentioned has the ability to map to a guest account. it's not a real account but rather a special one that doesn't require a login
[02:46] <_eMaX_> can I with something like kdialog capture the output of a  command in a window? I want to display a small window that has two buttons and sort of a textarea. each button is linked to a script, and the stdout / stderr of that script Iwant to show in the textarea
[02:46] <crystufer2000> Okay, and finally does anyone remember the command to restart smbd>
[02:46] <crystufer2000> ?*
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> cool
[02:52] <crystufer2000> sweet. It worked.
[02:52] <bonbonthejon> crystufer2000: cool
[02:52] <crystufer2000> One thing though, it's really slow.
[02:53] <crystufer2000> When I browse on the other end of the network, it's very very slow to load.
[02:53] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: is there a large amount of entries in the directory?
[02:54] <crystufer2000> Well, it lags even finding my share.
[02:54] <traumesel> hmm sau irgen ein grund kann ich keine privat nachricht in denn schenel schreiben !!
[02:54] <crystufer2000> But whatever. It works.
[02:54] <waylandbill> crystufer2000: :)
[02:55] <bonbonthejon> !de | traumesel
[02:55] <ubotu> traumesel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:55] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: It's been a while since I installed a Samba server, but is the netbios daemon running ?
[02:55] <crystufer2000> ErunnoWTF: I'm sorry?
[02:56] <robnyc> i have openoffice installed and its not opening or nothing
[02:56] <traumesel> ja war vor her schon drin mit steven ^^
[02:56] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: The netbios daemon is responsible for name resolution in Samba, maybe the lack of it causes the slow searches
[02:56] <crystufer2000> Okay. How can I check that?
[02:56] <bonbonthejon> traumesel: Sprechen Sie English?
[02:57] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Is the daemon nmbd running ?
[02:57] <traumesel> noo sorry -.-
[02:57] <crystufer2000> pid 26768
[02:57] <crystufer2000> Yeppers.
[02:57] <bonbonthejon> robnyc: open konsole and try running "oowriter" to see what the output says
[02:58] <traumesel> kubuntu-de drin got bye ^^
[02:58] <crystufer2000> Hallo, traumesel. Wi gets dir?
[02:58] <HymnToLife> too late
[02:58] <crystufer2000> aww
[02:59] <robnyc> bonbonthejon: command not found
[02:59] <bonbonthejon> robnyc: ok, so openoffice is not installed
[03:00] <crystufer2000> Hehe.
[03:00] <bonbonthejon> robnyc: open adept and try to install/reinstall it
[03:00] <crystufer2000> The robot noticed the german.
[03:01] <crystufer2000> Okay, smambama works now.
[03:01] <crystufer2000> Thanks guys!
[03:02] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Do you understand german ?
[03:03] <crystufer2000> ErunnoWTF: Not really. Only a few words.
[03:04] <bonbonthejon> ErunnoWTF: I took three years of German, but its been four years since, so I forget a lot
[03:05] <ErunnoWTF> crystufer2000: Here's a link that explains how to setup Samba as a WINS server: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch07_03.html
[03:05] <dani> hi
[03:05] <crystufer2000> ty ty
[03:05] <bonbonthejon> dani: hi
[03:06] <tsb> Can I use gnupg2 with kmail or do I need to install gnupg?
[03:06] <ErunnoWTF> I'll repeat my question again ;-) Is there a way to revert KDE to the default installation settings without deleting .kde ?
[03:06] <ErunnoWTF> I'd like to go back to the default layout without having to manually revert everything. That's a pain :P
[03:07] <bonbonthejon> tsb: i don't know
[03:07] <bonbonthejon> ErunnoWTF: I don't know that either, since noone else is responding
[03:08] <ErunnoWTF> bonbonthejon: Thanks anyway :-)
[03:09] <bonbonthejon> ErunnoWTF: I'm heading out, good luck, Tschues!
[03:09] <ErunnoWTF> Bye
[03:09] <Jucato> ErunnoWTF: try moving/deleting the config file for the particular app/part you want to restore to default (in ~/.kde/share/config)? there's no single, one-click way to do this afaik
[03:09] <ErunnoWTF> I'll try...on a test account ;-) Thanks
[03:10] <ErunnoWTF> Has aseigo actually ever said anything in this channel or is he just here as a reminder that there's no escape from our KDE overlords ?
[03:10] <Jucato> he speaks from time to time
[03:11] <cadkins> does anyone here use Amarok with an iPod?
[03:12] <waylandbill> cadkins: that's my app of choice for that.
[03:12] <waylandbill> unless I'm putting video and then gtkpod. :-)
[03:12] <cadkins> waylandbill : cool.  When I subscribe to a podcast, download the episode and then transfer to the iPod, is there a way to get it to show up under "Podcasts" on the iPod?
[03:13] <ErunnoWTF> Q&A time :P Does anyone know if the new software properties in feisty were ported to qt or is it just the gtk+ version using gtk-qt-engines ?
[03:13] <cadkins> right now it just shows up under "Artists"  Not sure why that is
[03:13] <waylandbill> cadkins: I would think it depends on the podcast itself.
[03:14] <robnyc> bonbonthejon: whats the proper / correct pkg name for openoffice.org and openoffice.org-calc to run on kubuntu
[03:15] <cadkins> waylandbill : hmm...well under iTunes it does just fine, but when I use Amarok it just goes to "Music"
[03:16] <Lynoure> robnyc: you run programs and install packages, which are you trying to do?
[03:16] <cadkins> maybe I just need a little more practice with Amarok.  Great media player though!
[03:16] <robnyc> openoffice.org Lynoure
[03:16] <waylandbill> cadkins: where's the podcast from?
[03:17] <robnyc> i had ubuntu installed, then i installed kubuntu-desktop, then somebody removed kde from here.. so i reinstalled kde and removed gnome now.. and all of a sudden OO disappeared
[03:17] <cadkins> waylandbill : mmm...there's a few of them.  Linux Reality, Buzz out loud, Mike Tech Show.
[03:18] <waylandbill> cadkins: plugging my ipod in now. will try to fetch one and pop in my pod.
[03:18] <Lynoure> robnyc: oh, install. Ok. you can see what kubuntu-desktop installs by doing   apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[03:18] <Lynoure> robnyc: it seem to install  openoffice.org and  openoffice.org-kde
[03:18] <cadkins> waylandbill : thanks for taking a look at it.  It might just be something I'm not doing right.  :p
[03:22] <robnyc> Lynoure: problem
[03:23] <robnyc> http://rafb.net/p/jLKkVR29.html Lynoure
[03:25] <waylandbill> cadkins: looks like you can't put them under podcasts with Amarok. You can put them under playlists though.
[03:26] <waylandbill> cadkins: It may be gtkpod that lets you put them under podcasts.
[03:26] <cadkins> waylandbill : thanks for the time.  I'll install gtkpod this evening and give it a shot.   Bummer about that though.  I'd like to just use Amarok for all media :(
[03:28] <waylandbill> cadkins: I agree. I love Amarok. It's a nice media center.
[03:28] <cadkins> waylandbill : sure is.  I was surprised when Amarok came up and had all my iPod stuff there.  Love Amarok  LOL
[03:29] <ForgeAus> Amarok is ok
[03:29] <cadkins> waylandbill : is gtkPod in the repositories?
[03:29] <waylandbill> cadkins: yes.
[03:30] <cadkins> waylandbill :  cool.  Thanks!
[03:30] <Lynoure> robnyc: pastebin your sources list or try to install the dependencies by hand
[03:33] <Lynoure> robnyc: And if you happen to be using feisty, try asking on #ubuntu+1
[03:34] <ForgeAus> Rob or packages.ubuntu.com? at least I think thats what the website is
[03:34] <robnyc> Lynoure: im using edgy
[03:34] <robnyc> brb
[03:34] <ForgeAus> !openoffice
[03:34] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[03:34] <ForgeAus> that SHOULD work
[03:34] <digitx> !help
[03:34] <digitx> !list
[03:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:34] <ForgeAus> !botsnack
[03:35] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:44] <killown> how I do to send process "make" for other tty?
[03:46] <surgy> hello
[03:46] <surgy> can someone tell me how to manually do a disk check?
[03:47] <Lynoure> surgy: ext3? do you know the device?
[03:48] <surgy> lynoure yes ext3 sdb
[03:48] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:49] <bianconeri> hello I have a question
[03:49] <bianconeri> or rather a problem
[03:49] <Lynoure> surgy: e2fscheck -f /dev/sdb  should do it
[03:50] <surgy> lynoure: and that works like a scandisk whould in windows?
[03:50] <larrydavid> hey all, does anyone know anything about 'git' ?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> bianconeri, just state your prob/question, and if someone can help s/he will
[03:51] <bianconeri> 2 weeks ago when I installed Kubuntu I applied this technique " How to disable all interactive editing control for GRUB menu" from http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_disable_all_interactive_editing_control_for_GRUB_menu however I just installed amaroklive on another partition and totally forgot about this....how can I make amarok appear on the menu now?
[03:51] <Lynoure> surgy: no, it is not graphical...
[03:51] <BluesKaj> install it on the same partition as kde
[03:52] <surgy> lynoure: i know but same concept right?
[03:52] <Lynoure> surgy: but it does check your filesystem for errors and fixes them when it can, yes
[03:52] <Lynoure> surgy: you should not have the disk mounted when you do it, and you might need a  sudo  in the front.
[03:53] <betty_> dskfsd
[03:53] <surgy> lynoure: that could be a problem the disk i want to check is the one with lynux installed
[03:54] <Lynoure> surgy: yes, then you need to e.g. boot from livecd and run that command from that
[03:54] <myn> ciao
[03:55] <surgy> Lynoure: telling me there is no disk checking utility i can run on a partition while using that partition?
[03:57] <Lynoure> surgy: you can run that, but you really really should not. As the disk can change in the middle of running and wreck havoc on the check or on itself.
[03:57] <Lynoure> surgy: you do not have a live cd (kubuntu installation cd, for example?)
[03:58] <surgy> yes i have a live cd but thats so inconveniant, i just noticed that kubuntu auto checks itself every 30 starts it whould be nice to have it check itself every 15 starts
[03:59] <NotWired> do I need to worry about the upcoming changes made to DST?
[03:59] <Lynoure> surgy: that you can do with tune2fs,  see man tune2fs
[04:00] <surgy> Lynoure: do i have tune2fs by defualt?
[04:02] <Lynoure> surgy: I think so, but I'm not 100% sure
[04:02] <Lynoure> surgy: should be at /sbin/tune2fs
[04:05] <surgy> lynoure: can you give me an example of the tune2fs using the interval command?
[04:09] <Lynoure> surgy: tune2fs -c 15 /dev/sdb  adjusts the max mounts between checks to be 15
[04:10] <Nicos> bjr tlm !
[04:11] <Nicos> nouvel utilisateur kubuntu, je cherche  partager un dossier qui pourra tre accessible de mon voisinage rseau par des postes sous windows
[04:12] <yaccin> !fr | Nicos
[04:12] <ubotu> Nicos: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:12] <Nicos> ok
[04:13] <surgy> Lynoure: thnx
[04:13] <jermain> hi everyone
[04:13] <echosyp> someone get me unbanned from #ubuntu
[04:13] <jermain> how did you get banned?
[04:14] <echosyp> i cussed
[04:14] <jermain> :)
[04:14] <jermain> well im no admin so i cant do that :/
[04:14] <echosyp> i think the bot can do it
[04:14] <echosyp> !unban echosyp
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unban echosyp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <Jucato> echosyp: please go to #ubuntu-ops
[04:14] <jermain> oic
[04:15] <echosyp> k
[04:15] <echosyp> anywho, wouldn't anyone know why wlan-ng drivers won't let me configure my card?
[04:15] <waylandbill> need the bot to chuckle with the unban directive. :-)
[04:18] <echosyp> guess thats a no
[04:18] <ackbahr> Hello! My AltGr key doesn't work, nore does CapsLock. How can I redetect my keyboard? Thank you!
[04:19] <jermain> -.-
[04:19] <jermain> ackbahr, i'd help you if i werent a complete noob
[04:19] <jermain> :)
[04:21] <ackbahr> jermain: Thanks, that brings a little sunshine in this grey day (well, here at least)
[04:21] <NightBird> >_>
[04:21] <jermain> :)
[04:21] <NightBird> ackbahr, I don't know how to redetect the keyboard, sorry
[04:21] <jermain> im looking for help myself
[04:21] <jermain> bird, maybe you can help me
[04:22] <jermain> Adept says i have FTP installed
[04:22] <jermain> but i cant find any ftp application
[04:22] <jermain> o.O
[04:22] <NightBird> er... are you sure you installed ftp and not an ftp daemon?
[04:22] <waylandbill> jermain: 'ftp' is a CLI application
[04:22] <jermain> oic
[04:23] <Jucato> !ftp | jermain
[04:23] <ubotu> jermain: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:23] <jermain> thanks :)
[04:23] <NightBird> yeah, I was going to guess that konqueror could handle ftp
[04:23] <Jucato> you guessed right :D
[04:23] <ackbahr> Yes, Konqueror is nice
[04:23] <Lynoure> ackbahr: do you get altgr and caps lock in console (outside the graphical mode)
[04:24] <ackbahr> Lynoure: You mean in complete console, or in a windowed console?
[04:24] <Lynoure> ackbahr: the actual console, outside X server
[04:24] <waylandbill> ackbahr: from a virtual terminal such as VT1 (ctrl-alt-F1)
[04:25] <ackbahr> waylandbill: I'd like to try, but hoe do I get back to X then?
[04:25] <ackbahr> s/hoe/how
[04:25] <cntb> cloned installation now on new pc - X server fatal error no screens found ? any ideas guy ?
[04:25] <Lynoure> waylandbill: that combo is a oneway ticket to some people... (unless they know ctrl+alt+f7 gets them back)
[04:25] <jermain> !KFTPGrabber
[04:25] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[04:25] <cntb> cloned installation now on new pc - X server fatal error no screens found ? any ideas guy ?
[04:26] <yaccin> cntb: other graphics card?
[04:26] <yaccin> other monitor?
[04:26] <cntb> done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <Lynoure> ackbahr: good that you asked before trying it. ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back.
[04:26] <cntb> yaccin previous was diferent NV
[04:26] <ackbahr> Well, Ctrl+alt+F1 won't get me there anyway.... :(
[04:26] <tom__> hello
[04:27] <cntb> yaccin maybe I go default then reinstall NV >?
[04:27] <yaccin> cntb: hmm. tried reinstalling graphic-cards driver?
[04:27] <yaccin> oh
[04:27] <delmp> ca roule ?
[04:27] <Lynoure> ackbahr: it should... hmm
[04:27] <yaccin> yes try changing to default drivers first
[04:27] <jermain> this is my 3rd day with kubuntu and im lovin it allready xD
[04:27] <yaccin> if that works, then reinstall
[04:27] <ackbahr> Really doesn't
[04:27] <yaccin> jermain: :) great^^
[04:27] <NightBird> jermain: excellent
[04:27] <cntb> not yet yaccin just overcome grub geom error
[04:28] <yaccin> jermain: im on kubuntu since dabber, running feisty now ^^
[04:28] <jermain> nice
[04:28] <yaccin> cntb: then try this :) hope it works
[04:28] <jermain> im running edgy eft :)
[04:28] <yaccin> *dapper
[04:28] <NightBird> I have most of the system up and working finally..
[04:28] <cntb> try what yaccin
[04:28] <jermain> gotta love the names they come up with with their updates
[04:28] <yaccin> argh still one thing thats not working here ^^
[04:28] <yaccin> cntb: changing to default nvidia driver
[04:28] <yaccin> or two, but second is a "wine" problem... ^^
[04:29] <cntb> I have old xorg.conf  yaccin can I choose generic in dpkg-reconfigure
[04:29] <Lynoure> ackbahr: anyway, you can also try checking that you have they right keyboard layout under System Settings -> Regional -> keyboard layout.    and if that does not work,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <yaccin> cntb: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <cntb> ok bye pal
[04:29] <yaccin> search "driver "nvidia" " << change to " driver "nv" "
[04:30] <ackbahr> Ah, I'll try the second one (because in your first solution, I don't have a list of keyboards....)
[04:31] <_delmp> ?
[04:31] <delmp> fffffffhf
[04:37] <cntb> q. \o is Accton Technology SMC2-1211TX in kubuntu supported HArdware  ?
[04:37] <cntb> !hardware
[04:37] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:41] <Mena_> Hi,
[04:42] <Mena_> Why running the both  in the same time OperaBrowser and Azuruiez Slowing down my stystem , is there any idea
[04:43] <Mena_> and i ue java6
[04:43] <Mena_> use*
[04:43] <Mena_> !kbfx
[04:43] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[04:43] <aorthr33> LVM help?
[04:43] <_delmp> yo
[04:44] <_delmp> salope
[04:44] <cntb> pls some install expert
[04:44] <cntb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsSmc are officially listed as supported
[04:44] <cntb> q. \o is Accton Technology SMC2-1211TX in kubuntu supported HArdware  ?
[04:45] <aorthr33> I just did a HD install of Kubuntu that I intend to run from a portable USB-HD, but to facilitate the install, I installed the HD in my laptop..now I need to change the menu.lst to reflect where the HD will eventually live
[04:45] <cntb> any workaround with that NIC ?
[04:45] <aorthr33> before (pre-LVM), I would just change from sda1 to sdb1...but not sure how that translates in LVM...anyone got any ideas?
[04:46] <Mena_> !ping
[04:46] <ubotu> pong
[04:46] <Mena_> :D
[04:46] <Mena_> !pong
[04:46] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[04:46] <aorthr33> should  I just the menu.lst entry from (hd0,4) to (hd1,4)?
[04:47] <cntb> wow via vt6105 NIC also not supported in ubuntu !!
[04:48] <Mena_> I also wonder why when i install kubuntu on another pc but with my hard and When i conect my hard to my pc it doesnt work...Any idea why that happened
[04:49] <cntb> CNet Davicom DM9102AF also out of supported NIcs ?
[04:49] <Mena_> Support Here fiends !!!!!! :(
[04:50] <Mena_> friends*
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> !real
[04:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> !realplayer
[04:50] <XVampireX> people, not directly kubuntu related, but those new to Linux trying out Kubuntu here's a good article: http://security.linux.com/security/07/02/13/1637251.shtml?tid=35
[04:50] <aorthr33> Mena: define some of your terms for us:   Install to another PC (USB connection, IDE connection???),...'doesnt work....doens't boot, some features done' work???
[04:51] <cntb> wow via vt6105 NIC also not supported in ubuntu !
[04:52] <cntb> XVampireX: strange wy so many netcards not supported?
[04:53] <ghetek> how do i find a specific string of text that is in a plaintext file somewhere in a subdirectory of a directory that i am currently in (im in Konsole)
[04:54] <XVampireX> cntb: Ask your hardware manufacturer
[04:54] <XVampireX> Linux devs (including ubuntu) are trying to get as much hardware working on Linux. Not their fault.
[04:54] <Jucato> ghetek: "grep -i searchstring directory/" maybe?
[04:56] <gdiebel> ghetek: you may wish to: grep -ri string directory/ as this will recursively search.
[04:58] <cntb> XVampireX: noone's fault
[04:58] <cntb> want to solve a problem
[04:58] <Jucato> aseigo: heh :)
[04:59] <Gtwy> cntb: is it supported for any other distribution
[04:59] <Jucato> aseigo: you have a long scrollback :D
[04:59] <cntb> DM9102af NIC was very common I guess was supported by rh7 old debian etc
[04:59] <athlon> currently I use kubuntu 6.06 but I am thinking about upgrading to 6.10. Thing is, though at first I used KDE, I now work exclusively in gnome. Since I dont have internet connection at home, I wonder if its possible to use kubuntu dvd to upgrade my 6.06 then use -ubuntu- dvd to upgrade gnome ?
[04:59] <cntb> where do I look
[05:00] <ackbahr> Tried all the trick you suggested to get my keyboard to work, but It did go anywhere...
[05:00] <Gtwy> cntb: you may have to modprobe
[05:00] <Gtwy> cntb: google modprobe (your nic)
[05:01] <ackbahr> Is there a way to reinstall *over* the current install, which would simply correct the current problems?
[05:01] <aseigo> Jucato: indeed. konversation's search helps sift through it nicely
[05:01] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and not loose anything?
[05:01] <Jucato> aseigo: hehe ;)
[05:01] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Well, just asking... :)
[05:01] <Gtwy> ackbahr: you didnt answer the question
[05:01] <XVampireX> aseigo you started using kubuntu?
[05:02] <ackbahr> Well, yes, that was the idea
[05:02] <aseigo> XVampireX: toyed with it during breezy, moved to it on one machine during dapper...
[05:02] <ackbahr> Like the Nasty W can do
[05:02] <Gtwy> ackbahr: do you have 2 hard drives
[05:02] <aseigo> XVampireX: now i've got an edgy and a feisty
[05:02] <aseigo> or whatever the letters are
[05:02] <ackbahr> I can backup, yes
[05:02] <XVampireX> aseigo: Cool :D
[05:02] <ackbahr> (usb ext HD)
[05:03] <XVampireX> edgy is after dapper and feisty is after edgy :P
[05:03] <aseigo> the alphabet: a wonderful thing. yeah, the lack of an updated xephyr for x86-64 is killing me right now though =(
[05:05] <n8k99> Jucato did you do something 'bad' in there?
[05:05] <cntb> the hell with old NICs I have a rtl8139 in the lab good enough
[05:05] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Anyway, I suppose the install or backup process won't be able to figure out what is working and ain't....
[05:06] <Jucato> n8k99: no. I'm just shy in front of He-man and Co. :D
[05:06] <Jucato> n8k99: but I'll be going there soon... might feel the need to add another word to my cloak :P
[05:06] <aseigo> Jucato: somehow i don't think "a kde developer's productivity is being hampered" would be a huge motivator for them ;)
[05:06] <n8k99> hehe
[05:07] <Jucato> hehe :)
[05:07] <n8k99> yeah- who needs a kde developer anyways! jk
[05:07] <Jucato> !info xserver-xephyr feisty
[05:07] <ubotu> xserver-xephyr: Nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 1488 kB, installed size 3812 kB
[05:07] <Jucato> aseigo: might also be too late now... I think we're in feature freeze already
[05:08] <Gtwy> ackbahr: it just is never a good idea to do an install like that. you would inevitably end up formatting again at a later date to correct either 1. errors it didnt fix or 2. new errors that came from doing that
[05:09] <aseigo> Jucato: it's a bug leading to 100% reproducable on-startup crashes. i don't think it matters if its a feature freeze =)
[05:09] <aseigo> Jucato: there's a patch upstream that needs to get applied and a package built
[05:09] <ackbahr> Gtwy: And is there a way to keep/remember what I configured and worked?
[05:09] <Jucato> oh...
[05:10] <Gtwy> ackbahr: backup /etc/ and your home directory
[05:10] <Gtwy> ackbahr: however if something is "screwed up"
[05:10] <Gtwy> ackbahr: have you considered just trying to fix the problem?
[05:11] <ackbahr> Gtwy: I've been trying to for 1.5 day
[05:11] <Gtwy> ackbahr: you havent tried hard enough yet
[05:11] <ackbahr> But if you have suggestions, I can submit my problem to you as well.
[05:11] <Gtwy> ackbahr: what is your problem
[05:12] <bdragonmsl> What's the best way to addberyl-manager to the session manager??
[05:12] <ackbahr> My keyboard layout won't work (AltGr and CapsLock don't do anything); the control panel thing doesn't have any keyboard layout in it, and the xserver-reconfig-xorg (something like that) didn't work either
[05:13] <ackbahr> And that's only one of the problems
[05:13] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and they used to work?
[05:14] <ackbahr> Yep
[05:14] <Gtwy> ackbahr: until what
[05:14] <ackbahr> Probably until I tried all the walkthroughs to get beryl to work, and without success, too.
[05:15] <Gtwy> uh what files did you have to edit to get beryl to work
[05:15] <ackbahr> (Which is problem 2; problem 3 is the unstability of knetwork-manager)
[05:15] <jermain> Can someone tell me how to install a .deb from konsole?
[05:15] <ackbahr> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:15] <apokryphos> ackbahr: not really a great idea to recommend that...
[05:16] <jermain> :o
[05:16] <apokryphos> specifically use the name: sudo dpkg -i somepackage.deb
[05:16] <apokryphos> jermain: though, what package is it?
[05:16] <ackbahr> apokryphos: Ah, see what you mean....
[05:16] <jermain> its skype
[05:16] <apokryphos> !skype
[05:16] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:16] <apokryphos> check there
[05:17] <jermain> damn does this bot have an answer to EVERTYTHING?
[05:17] <Gtwy> ackbahr: well, it seems you fubared your Xorg config
[05:17] <apokryphos> jermain: yes ;-)
[05:17] <apokryphos> !bot | jermain
[05:17] <ubotu> jermain: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:17] <ackbahr> Gtwy: "fubared"?
[05:17] <jermain> O.o thanks *scratches head*
[05:17] <n8k99> !everything
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about everything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and ill be honest, the reason i use kubuntu on my laptop and not gentoo, which i use for all my servers, is because i can never get Xorg configured properly and kubuntu does it for me
[05:17] <jermain[reading] > lol
[05:17] <apokryphos> !everything is <alias> bot
[05:17] <ubotu> I'll remember that, apokryphos
[05:17] <Gtwy> ackbahr: fubar = fouled up beyond all repair (polite version)
[05:18] <n8k99> !everything
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[05:18] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Well, I'm in KDE, actually! :)
[05:18] <Gtwy> ackbahr: but you were trying to set up beryl right
[05:19] <Gtwy> ?
[05:19] <n8k99> jermain[reading] : yes it knows everything
[05:19] <ackbahr> And I managed to mess it all as well.... But even on the level of the console, AltGr and CapsLock won't work
[05:19] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Yes, I was trying to set up beryl
[05:20] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and you screwed up Xorg stuff
[05:20] <jermain[reading] > I thought about getting beryl too, it looked cool, but then i saw
[05:20] <ackbahr> But just to have the possibility to open a XGL session to show Wpeople who'd tell me the linux's not nice to look at.... :P
[05:20] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Yep
[05:20] <jermain[reading] > all these warnings about it being beta and it could mess you up
[05:20] <ackbahr> Kept editing xorg.conf
[05:21] <jermain[reading] > so i decided not to get it :)
[05:21] <jermain[reading] > it looks really cool on youtube though
[05:21] <ackbahr> There's probably a backup of the original one somewhere? Would this help?
[05:21] <Gtwy> ackbahr: and that is probably the one thing i cant help you with. always make a backup of a config. if you need help setting up apache/bind/sshd/or any services let me know
[05:22] <ackbahr> Gtwy: What do you think of the fact that the keys aare screwed even on the level of the console?
[05:22] <yaccin> jermain[reading] : well beryl should be kinda easy to install
[05:22] <Gtwy> ackbahr: running through X or if you kill X?
[05:22] <yaccin> what graphics card do you have?
[05:23] <tuco> Hello people.
[05:23] <Gtwy> ackbahr: have you checked /etc/locale.gen
[05:23] <ackbahr> Gtwy: starting with a console at login
[05:23] <tuco> I can't seem to sort out the problem I am having with my printer and my USB 2.gg stick. Any help welcome :-)
[05:23] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Nope, what should it look like?
[05:24] <ackbahr> Gtwy:  I don't have a locale.gen
[05:24] <ele> ackbahr:try dkpg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:25] <ackbahr> ele: Already tried it, but without the -phigh .... What does it change?
[05:25] <ele> actually i donyt no
[05:25] <ackbahr> ok... thanks anyway!
[05:26] <cntb> what is a good keyb shortcut for Kmenu (start;-)) ?
[05:27] <Jucato> cntb: Alt+F1 is the default
[05:27] <Jucato> cntb: btw, have you tried Katapult?
[05:27] <cntb> ty
[05:27] <Jucato> !katapult | cntb
[05:27] <ubotu> cntb: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[05:27] <jermain[reading] > it seems !skype is outdated
[05:27] <ackbahr> cntb: My brother hijacked the Windows key.... :)
[05:27] <jermain[reading] > i kinda used ackbahrs code
[05:27] <tuco> Guys any help welcome for my two problems. The last two that have been buggering me for two weeks now!
[05:28] <jermain[reading] > sudo dpkg -i skype*.deb
[05:28] <jermain[reading] > whats up tuco
[05:28] <jermain[reading] > im prolly not smart enough to help but do tell anyway :)
[05:29] <tuco> Thank you Jermanin. Basically for the last two weeks I have a been trying to have my MP130 Canon printer to work without success. I think I have installed what needed to be installed, and the other other problem is that i can't have my 2gig stuck recognized.
[05:29] <tuco> Jermain sorry!
[05:30] <XenThraL> Hi, having some trouble with adept package manager
[05:30] <gioacchino> hello'
[05:30] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Are you still around?
[05:30] <thomax_> XenThraL: whats up
[05:30] <XenThraL> when I try to open it and put in the password it says "conversation with su failed"
[05:31] <XenThraL> bit of a linux noob so if someone could walk me through whats going on...
[05:31] <thomax_> XenThraL: when you do "kdesu adept" ?
[05:31] <XenThraL> kdesu adept_manager
[05:31] <Gtwy> ackbahr: yeah i am fetching updates on a new edgy install
[05:31] <thomax_> are you added to the admin group ?
[05:32] <XenThraL> I have no idea
[05:32] <Gtwy> XenThraL: cat /etc/sudoers
[05:32] <XenThraL> this just started happening
[05:32] <XenThraL> worked fine last night
[05:32] <cadkins> ackbahr :  were you the one that had problems installing Beryl?
[05:33] <ackbahr> cadkins: Yep
[05:33] <XenThraL> Gtwy: do I do that on the konsole?
[05:33] <thomax_> XenThraL: thats strange, did you cgange anything since than
[05:33] <tuco> Still there Jermain?
[05:33] <thomax_> change *
[05:33] <XenThraL> not to my recollection
[05:33] <Gtwy> XenThraL: type cat /etc/sudoers
[05:33] <cadkins> ackbahr : ah.  Well...if you get your system back up running, see if this helps with the install : http://element14.wordpress.com/2007/01/16/how-to-install-beryl-on-kubuntu-610/
[05:33] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Sorry, you've already helped me a lot, I don't want to bother you too much....
[05:33] <XenThraL> "Permission denied"
[05:33] <cadkins> ackbahr: that is what I used and it installed with no problems whatsoever
[05:34] <Gtwy> ackbahr: i dont mind i just cant help you im not good with xorg configurations
[05:34] <thomax_> sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[05:34] <ackbahr> cadkins: What graphic card do you have?
[05:34] <Gtwy> ackbahr: spent all week trying to get Gentoo work on a i810 video card to no avail ended up putting kubuntu back on
[05:34] <XenThraL> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:34] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Seems the safe thing to do....
[05:34] <XenThraL> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:34] <XenThraL> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:34] <XenThraL> never touched these files...
[05:34] <waylandbill> Gtwy: spend all week just compiling KDE. :-)
[05:34] <ackbahr> Gtwy: If I want to show off to a Wuser, I can use Kararoo live CD! :)
[05:35] <cadkins> ackbahr : but first make sure that you have a graphics card that will work by doing : glxinfo | grep direct in a terminal.  If it comes back with direct rendering: yes, you're good
[05:35] <cadkins> ackbahr : I have a GeForceFX 5200
[05:35] <Gtwy> waylandbill: actually i compiled about 400 packages in 20 hours
[05:35] <ackbahr> cadkins: It doesn't, but it's a driver problem, right?
[05:35] <cntb> ,
[05:35] <cntb> sorry keyb fell
[05:35] <cntb> haha
[05:35] <waylandbill> Gtwy: that's actually not too bad.
[05:35] <thomax_> XenThraL: does apt-get work for you?
[05:35] <XenThraL> yeah
[05:36] <cadkins> ackbahr : not necissarirly.  The graphics card has to support direct rendering which is *i think* hardware acceleration.
[05:36] <cntb> in a cloned system network is down lspci sees the rtl8139 what next ?
[05:36] <thomax_> XenThraL>: ry reinstalling adept 'sudo apt-get install adept --reinstall
[05:36] <Gtwy> waylandbill: agreed... problem is you have to enable certain things in the kernel to get i810 working and disable others, i compiled 4 times and gave up
[05:36] <cadkins> ackbahr : what kind of card do you have?
[05:36] <gioacchino> I have a problem with amule
[05:36] <XenThraL> it will still know what packages I have right?
[05:36] <gioacchino> how to use webserver ?
[05:37] <ackbahr> cadkins: My understanding is that direct_rendering is the *management* of the accel... I'm not really sure what card I have, that's the problem!
[05:37] <thomax_> yeah offcource
[05:37] <XenThraL> ok just being sure
[05:37] <gioacchino> the pacage downloaded from repository' not have webserver
[05:37] <ackbahr> cadkins: Do you have a nice tool to identify it?
[05:37] <cadkins> ackbahr : from the Beryl site "The Xgl X server requires 3D video acceleration. "
[05:37] <cntb> is there such a thing dpkg-reconfigure network ?
[05:37] <cadkins> ackbahr : should be able to tell from the System Info.  I think it's under "System" on the K menu.  I'm on Winders ATM.
[05:38] <ackbahr> cadkins: Well, it's a 2005 portable computer.... It sure contains an accel! + Kararoo XGL live CD does work on this computer....
[05:38] <berker> Hi, i just started to use kubuntu today, and have a question
[05:38] <berker> I pluged in my webcam
[05:38] <cadkins> ackbahr : ok.  See if this returns anything from the command line : fglrxinfo
[05:38] <berker> but nothing happened
[05:39] <cadkins> you might have an ATI graphics card
[05:39] <berker> what should i do, can you help?
[05:39] <ackbahr> cadkins: I think so
[05:39] <XenThraL> thomax_: now when I try to run it
[05:39] <XenThraL> it says "Su returned with an error"
[05:39] <ackbahr> cadkins: At least this was my general work hypothesis
[05:39] <cadkins> ah....well see if fglrxinfo | grep direct  returns anything
[05:39] <XenThraL> doesn't even open up the dialog to put in my password
[05:39] <thomax_> hmmm
[05:39] <ackbahr> cadkins: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[05:40] <XenThraL> adept still works @ konsole
[05:40] <cadkins> ackbahr : you might have an ATI Radeon.  Not sure though
[05:40] <thomax_> XenThraL: so whan you do "kdesu adept" in konsole it works?
[05:40] <ackbahr> cadkins: But sincerely, I had something else 2 hours ago, so it's really a driver indication rather than hardware!
[05:40] <XenThraL> no
[05:40] <berker> should i load driver?
[05:40] <XenThraL> kdesu _everything_ fails
[05:40] <tuco> So guess Jermain gave up on me, anybody elses's help is welcome!
[05:40] <XenThraL> just tried with other programs
[05:41] <thomax_> hmm then its something with kdesu probablu
[05:41] <Gtwy> so sudo works but not kdesu
[05:41] <berker> no body listens me :(
[05:41] <elbing> berker, type dmesg and look at output from kernel.
[05:41] <ackbahr> cadkins: Same for the direct_rendering : I once had it on "yes", but tried tweaking to get a correction (there was a white cube when beryl got closer to working...)
[05:41] <berker> ok
[05:41] <XenThraL> apparently so Gtwy
[05:41] <XenThraL> I wonder how the hell I managed to break _that_
[05:42] <XenThraL> last night I installed alien to change some .rpms to .debs
[05:42] <XenThraL> only thing I remember doing
[05:42] <cadkins> ackbahr : I think I had that problem once too when I first installed Beryl.    Not just X but the whole computer?
[05:42] <ackbahr> cadkins: Yep
[05:43] <ackbahr> But as I told you before, I tried a dozen of XGL/Beryl/Compiz install tutorials.........
[05:43] <berker> it says usb camera found
[05:43] <berker> but how can i make it work?
[05:43] <cadkins> ackbahr : bummer :(  Would it be a big pain to just reinstall kubuntu?   After that, I would give that script a shot.  It worked like a charm for me.
[05:43] <ackbahr> cadkins: So I don't remember all I did, in what order, and what got me closer to working!!!
[05:43] <thomax_> XenThraL: just installed alien but everything keeps working fine for me
[05:43] <cntb> changed NIC how to re-detect it no eth0 no eth1 either it is a rtl8139 listed in lspci
[05:44] <XenThraL> yeah I doubted that would be it
[05:44] <XenThraL> uh how do I reinstall kdesu?
[05:44] <cadkins> ackbahr : I know what you mean.  I messed with it for a while and finally after "something", the resolution started working at 1280x1024
[05:44] <ackbahr> Well, I'm strongly considering reinstalling all of it.....
[05:44] <thomax_> does anyone know what package contains kdesu ?
[05:45] <cadkins> ackbahr : you should have a copy of xorg.conf that you can just fall back to.  Have you checked on that ?
[05:45] <ackbahr> Well, I probably have dozens of xorgs on this thing.... I'll check it up
[05:45] <thomax_> XenThraL: for the moment I don't know what to look at
[05:46] <miranda82> hi there people
[05:46] <XenThraL> irk, that can't be a good sign
[05:46] <ackbahr> How can I ls a directory in column by dates?
[05:46] <cadkins> ackbahr : I would see if you can find the first one that worked and go back to it.
[05:46] <thomax_> XenThraL: it's strange thats all I can say
[05:46] <miranda82> is there any way to make smaller the notification bubbles of kopete? they are huge here...
[05:46] <thomax_> an aplication doesn't break by itself as far as I know
[05:46] <PhinnFort> is it possible to get ktorrent 2.1 in edgy?
[05:46] <cadkins> ackbahr : the xorg.conf files should be appended with either a date stamp or number i.e. xorg.conf.1  xorg.conf.2  etc...
[05:47] <PhinnFort> on amd64?
[05:47] <ackbahr> cadkins: Well, I have both types....
[05:47] <cadkins> ackbahr : I would use the one with the time stamp.  I had to do that as well  LOL
[05:47] <ackbahr> cadkins: I have *8* xorg.* files! :)
[05:48] <cadkins> ackbahr : yep.  I had about the same :)  I have to run but good luck getting back working.  And try that script to see if that works ;)
[05:48] <XenThraL> Gtwy: any clue on how I can fix this?
[05:48] <PhinnFort> is anyone else experiencing random crashes of the X server when using beryl?
[05:49] <Gtwy> try reinstalling kdesu ?
[05:49] <XenThraL> which package is it?
[05:49] <XenThraL> I did kdesu --reinstall but, thats not it...
[05:49] <PhinnFort> XenThraL: check out packages.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <PhinnFort> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=kdesu&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[05:49] <PhinnFort> kdebase-bin, it seems
[05:50] <elbing> PhinnFort, I experienced troubles with adept-notifier. Running from AIGLX rest looks nice
[05:50] <ackbahr> Goodbye all, I'm trying to restore my system! See you all in another life!
[05:50] <PhinnFort> elbing: the problems with adept-notifier seems to be random
[05:50] <XenThraL> cool, thanks
[05:50] <PhinnFort> sometimes it works/looks perfectly
[05:50] <elbing> yes, with XGL white screen
[05:50] <PhinnFort> XenThraL: you're welcome
[05:50] <elbing> if it's killed all runs well
[05:50] <PhinnFort> well, i'm using AIGLX, and it runs perfectly, except it sometimes crashes when i have many apps open
[05:51] <PhinnFort> i.e. under heavy load
[05:51] <XenThraL> reinstalled kdebase but its still giving me the error
[05:51] <XenThraL> guess I'll reboot
[05:51] <elbing> With AIGLX I start with kwin, beryl is in autostart but keeps original window manager. Not important for me, selected beryl manager and all runs except random troubles with adept
[05:52] <berker> sorry my machine is frozen
[05:52] <PhinnFort> elbing: it's not even sometimes, it was three times this morning
[05:52] <berker> so how can i make it work?
[05:52] <berker> elbing?
[05:52] <PhinnFort> berker: what's the problem?
[05:52] <berker> sorry guys
[05:52] <berker> i'm new
[05:52] <skywalker> what is wrong with upgradeing from Ubuntu to xubuntu
[05:52] <berker> I pluged my web cam.
[05:52] <elbing> PhinnFort, under heavy load runs without problems except my FX5200 that is tired :p
[05:53] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:53] <berker> How can i make it work?
[05:53] <PhinnFort> elbing: well, it's very snappy and everything, it just crashes sometimes
[05:53] <elbing> berker, your problem is not kubuntu: is Linux. try adding your cam to your favourite instant messenger program
[05:53] <Admiral_Chicago> skywalker: nothing.
[05:53] <elbing> usually it will works
[05:53] <PhinnFort> and i know it isn't a problem with my experimental radeon drivers, since another guy with nvidia had exactly the same error
[05:53] <PhinnFort> even the same backtrace
[05:54] <berker> i tried with Kopete. not working, just a blue squire
[05:54] <skywalker> ok thanks I was thinking of doing that IO dident know if theirs was a bug or something
[05:54] <ccl> Hi. I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu. I have a problem with installing codecs for watching movies and listening to music...
[05:54] <PhinnFort> berker: run dmesg | tail
[05:54] <PhinnFort> !automatix
[05:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:54] <elbing> hummm I'm not sure about backtrace. It's not card problem, when beryl was updated last week some troubles disappeared
[05:54] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[05:54] <PhinnFort> maybe I should downgrade
[05:54] <elbing> this week works nice
[05:55] <PhinnFort> but the posts from that other guy in the ubuntu forums where two weeks old
[05:55] <elbing> (this morning at least)
[05:55] <PhinnFort> well, this morning it was very nice, until it crashed horribly
[05:55] <ccl> I downloaded something that was suppossed to be a plugin with codecs for totem... I just don't know how to install it..
[05:55] <elbing> yes, it was when I decided run it with AIGLX, XGL crashed for me two weeks ago
[05:56] <elbing> I'm afraid, I turned off my machine after updates and when I rebooted all work fine as yesterday
[05:56] <XenThraL> reboot did the job it seems
[05:56] <berker> and...
[05:56] <XenThraL> thank you thomax_ and PhinnFort
[05:56] <PhinnFort> ok
[05:56] <thomax_> no problem
[05:57] <PhinnFort> ccl: you should try to use Automatix or Easy Ubuntu
[05:57] <tuco> Guys...anyone can help me with my printer and usb stick please. Been stuck with it for two weeks now, and that is the only reason I have to go back to windows to print stuff (and believe me it sucks).
[05:57] <PhinnFort> tuco: what happens when you insert your usb stick?
[05:58] <PhinnFort> ccl: why do you use totem?
[05:58] <ccl> anyone that can help me?
[05:58] <PhinnFort> ccl: yes
[05:58] <PhinnFort> ccl: do you use KDE?
[05:58] <Vamp899> Hi
[05:58] <Vamp899> one question
[05:58] <ccl> well... I don't know... what should I use? Like I said, I'm completely new to Linux..
[05:58] <tuco> Thank you PhinnFort. Basically it looks like it is recognized but it doesn't appear in Konqueror and most of the time freezes the machine and I have to reboot.
[05:59] <Vamp899> use KDE
[05:59] <ccl> I wan't to learn....
[05:59] <Vamp899> KDE is a good looking and easy Desktop
[05:59] <Vamp899> how to find a Ubuntu repo for multimedia? i search packages like w32codec-all
[05:59] <berker> maybe the camera is broken i dont know, do you want me to send the konsole message to you?
[06:00] <ccl> so what do I do to install that?
[06:00] <berker> Phinnfort?
[06:00] <Vamp899> apt-get install kde-core
[06:00] <thomax_> Vamp899: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:00] <wahle> hey, anyone have any problems with the updates today removing kubuntu-desktop and apt-updater, etc etc?
[06:00] <elbing> berker, what webcam is it?
[06:00] <Vamp899> thx
[06:00] <berker> the brand is UNIS
[06:00] <tuco> PhinnFort my printer is an MP130 Canon usb
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.092000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 10
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.272000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.556000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[06:01] <berker> [17180232.836000]  usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 11
[06:01] <berker> [17180233.016000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[06:01] <binks_> is it posible to fix a broken rar in linux if no par files are present
[06:02] <berker> :(
[06:02] <apokryphos> !paste | berker
[06:02] <ubotu> berker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <Vamp899> where i have to save the sources.list? i never used Ubuntu/Kubuntu (SuSE user^^)
[06:02] <bobofett> You can't send that many messages that fast berker.
[06:02] <ackbahr> Gtwy: Well, I solved my AltGr problem by fetching the oldest xorg.conf ..... :)
[06:02] <apokryphos> Vamp899: /etc/apt
[06:02] <Vamp899> thx
[06:02] <PhinnFort> tuco: can you paste the output of dmesg?
[06:02] <PhinnFort> !paste | tuco
[06:02] <ubotu> tuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <berker> sorry ...
[06:03] <bobofett> lol np...you didn't know.
[06:03] <berker> nope
[06:03] <tuco> dmesg? Never used that one...sudo.....?
[06:03] <berker> i'm new
[06:03] <berker> no
[06:03] <berker> :)
[06:03] <timster> Why is the paste bin on the netherland server/
[06:03] <bobofett> so what are you currently using?
[06:03] <elbing> berker, maybe a hardware problem. are you sure that device works well?
[06:03] <bobofett> berker.
[06:03] <apokryphos> timster: because the NL admin runs it
[06:04] <timster> Ah
[06:04] <berker> yeah, i think so but i will buy another one tomorrow, let see if that one works...
[06:04] <tuco> Phinn what is the full command for dmesg please?
[06:04] <berker> I've been using windows bobofett
[06:05] <berker> it was a pain in the ass. and i changed it
[06:05] <bobofett> aaaah ok ... are you sure the stick works at all?
[06:05] <PhinnFort> tuco: "dmesg"
[06:05] <PhinnFort> no sudo
[06:05] <PhinnFort> it just prints stuff from the kernel
[06:05] <bobofett> Have you tried it in a different computer?
[06:05] <binks_> !rar
[06:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:05] <PhinnFort> i'm a bit busy here, sorry
[06:06] <berker> nope
[06:06] <berker> thats better idea, i'll try
[06:06] <berker> Thank you very much for all help, and sorry about the paste...
[06:06] <bobofett> yeah if you can do that really quick then come back here and let us know.
[06:06] <bobofett> lol np man
[06:06] <bobofett> good luck
[06:07] <elbing> berker, try read this: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml before buy a new device
[06:07] <berker> Thanks, I'll try it tomorrow, its 1:00 AM here, my friends were in sleep
[06:07] <berker> ok thanks elbing
[06:08] <tuco> Phinn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7665/
[06:09] <Vamp899> thx for help
[06:09] <Vamp899> i try to install Kubuntu now :D
[06:10] <berker> See you guys...
[06:10] <berker> Thanks again
[06:10] <bobofett>  later good luck
[06:10] <tominglis> hi, does anyone know how you can edit the desktop right click menu, for example to include a shortcut to konsole in it?
[06:11] <asaup> i downloaded jIRCii and java runtime environment but when i try to start jIRCii it says : Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jerk.jar
[06:12] <PhinnFort> have you tried inserting it before pasting?
[06:13] <PhinnFort>  /running dmesg
[06:14] <PhinnFort> tuco: did you insert the usb stick before running dmesg?
[06:14] <tuco> hold on
[06:14] <tuco> nope did not
[06:14] <PhinnFort> then insert it, pray it doesn't freeze, and paste;)
[06:14] <asaup> i downloaded jIRCii and java runtime environment but when i try to start jIRCii it says : Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jerk.jar
[06:15] <tuco> do you want me to? it might freeze the pc completely
[06:15] <PhinnFort> asaup: i saw it the first time
[06:15] <PhinnFort> asaup: ask in #java
[06:15] <ScarFreewill> how can i get out of "sticky keys" with out reloging
[06:15] <tuco> ok
[06:15] <Vamp899> i have a reiserfs, swap and a ext3 partition. Is there any way to install without formating one of these partitions?
[06:15] <asaup> ok
[06:15] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: yes
[06:16] <Vamp899> how?
[06:16] <Vamp899> atm im in the Kubuntu Partitionier (looks like qtparted oder LVM)
[06:16] <waylandbill> Vamp899: the installer will ask what to format and what not to
[06:16] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: its asks you after you pasted the formating screen where the mount points must be
[06:16] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: just skip the format menu
[06:16] <tuco> there you go :-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7666/
[06:17] <PhinnFort> danke
[06:17] <ScarFreewill> Vamp899: i think its a sort of qtparted
[06:17] <Vamp899> im on step 5 of 6 and he shows me my two partitions and im allowed to do partitions by hand, what to klick? My HD i want to install Kubuntu on it?
[06:17] <PhinnFort> tuco: everything seems normal...
[06:18] <ScarFreewill> how can i get out of "sticky keys" with out reloging (if i hold in shift for a long time)
[06:18] <ccl> ok... I downloaded w32codec-all... How do I install it?
[06:18] <waylandbill> Vamp899: the next screen after paritioning is mount point/formatting
[06:18] <PhinnFort> ScarFreewill: ask once, mkay?
[06:18] <Vamp899> do you speak german?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> ScarFreewill: go to system settings -> Accessibility
[06:19] <binks_> ok i am missing something is there a cmd in unrar to fix an archeive
[06:19] <bobofett> I don't suppose any of you use KMPlayer do you?
[06:19] <tuco> it doesn't appear in media...how can I check?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> bobofett: i use Codeine
[06:19] <bobofett> How do you like it?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> tuco: go to "media:/"
[06:19] <PhinnFort> bobofett: very, very much
[06:19] <ScarFreewill> PhinnFort: i was not sure ppl understaned what i was trying to say note that my post is differant hince i didn't post twice
[06:19] <tuco> in there
[06:20] <bobofett> I'm on the endless search for the perfect media player...and I think I've used them all but Codeine...and that was the next on my list...it's it nice and small?
[06:20] <PhinnFort> ScarFreewill: did it work, what i told you to do?
[06:20] <ScarFreewill> PhinnFort: danke sune
[06:20] <PhinnFort> tuco: nothing?
[06:20] <bobofett> pretty decent memory footprint?
[06:20] <tuco> nothing mate...only my hardrive
[06:20] <tuco> and cdrom
[06:20] <Vamp899> the paritionier dont shows my hdb (its a ext3, is that a problem?) :(
[06:20] <Vamp899> only my hda1
[06:20] <PhinnFort> tuco: try running "ls /dev/sd*"
[06:21] <Vamp899> and hda2 (swap)
[06:21] <PhinnFort> bobofett: extremely nice
[06:21] <PhinnFort> !codeine
[06:21] <ubotu> codeine: Simple KDE video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 163 kB, installed size 576 kB
[06:21] <tuco> done
[06:21] <Vamp899> ah i found it
[06:21] <PhinnFort> tuco: what did it say?
[06:21] <PhinnFort> bobofett: http://www.methylblue.com/codeine/
[06:21] <tuco> ev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdc
[06:21] <bobofett> Ok you convinced me...ha...Codeine you are the next bitch on my list...hahaha
[06:21] <PhinnFort> bobofett: it's minimalistic, you might say
[06:22] <bobofett> Thanks alot Fort...actually been to their site before...just got side tracked by some other player...ha
[06:22] <PhinnFort> i think it might become standard in KDE 4
[06:22] <PhinnFort> it was just imported into KDE SVN
[06:22] <PhinnFort> bobofett: you must not stray from the true path
[06:22] <bobofett> We really need to .... oh yeah I was about to say what you just said about getting a standard player for KDE/Kubuntu even.
[06:22] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:23] <yaccin> !wacom
[06:23] <bobofett> lol fort
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <yaccin> !graphire
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <tuco> The machine hasn't crashed so far but the usb stick doesn't show still...arghhhh!
[06:23] <bobofett> poor ubot...lol
[06:23] <PhinnFort> tuco try to run "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"
[06:23] <bobofett> it's so confused...ha
[06:23] <yaccin> ubotu: what exactly DO you know? :P
[06:23] <PhinnFort> tuco: wait  a sec
[06:23] <yaccin> [18:24]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:23] <yaccin> XD
[06:24] <bobofett> lol
[06:24] <PhinnFort> tuco: do you have scsi disks?
[06:24] <PhinnFort> !tablet
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <PhinnFort> !mymother
[06:24] <tuco> nope I don't
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mymother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <bobofett> It's my favorite pass time to watch people try to talk to poor confused ubot....lol lol
[06:24] <Gtwy> is there a GUI app for handling private keys for remote ssh login
[06:24] <bobofett> LOL....Stop I'm going to piss myself!
[06:24] <PhinnFort> tuco: try running "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[06:25] <PhinnFort> and then access "/mnt" in konqi
[06:25] <om3ga> i have a ?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !!
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !rabbits
[06:25] <om3ga> how do i get limewire or frostwire to run in kubuntu
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rabbits - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <PhinnFort> om3ga: you on 64-bit?
[06:25] <PhinnFort> !frostwire
[06:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:26] <OzW> is there a way to list all connected serial devices?
[06:26] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7668/
[06:26] <om3ga> i think so
[06:26] <PhinnFort> !frostwire | om3ga
[06:26] <ubotu> om3ga: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:26] <Mena> !png
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about png - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <Mena> !ping
[06:26] <ubotu> pong
[06:26] <PhinnFort> !fool
[06:26] <bobofett> pong
[06:26] <bobofett> lol
[06:26] <bobofett> lol
[06:26] <Mena> :D
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <om3ga> i looked there and tried it but didnt work
[06:27] <OzW> or see if a serial device i have connected is in fact being detected properly?
[06:27] <PhinnFort> tuco: try typing in/pasting "/media/sda1" into the konqueror address bar
[06:27] <Mena> Freinds when i compile a program
[06:27] <PhinnFort> !serial
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <PhinnFort> OzW: use dmesg
[06:27] <PhinnFort> !dmesg
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Mena> i must install it fron the folder i have compileed it in
[06:27] <Mena> from*
[06:27] <PhinnFort> tuco: i have to go to the shower now
[06:28] <Mena> uninstall*
[06:28] <PhinnFort> please "/msg PhinnFort" if you need help desperately
[06:28] <tuco> I am happy for you Phinn :-)
[06:28] <tuco> Ok will do
[06:28] <elbing> PhinnFort, I need one million dolar
[06:28] <Mena> heeheh !!!
[06:28] <om3ga> heres what i got
[06:28] <elbing> desperately
[06:28] <tuco> and a pack of beer!
[06:29] <om3ga> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb (--install):
[06:29] <om3ga>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:29] <om3ga> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:29] <om3ga>  FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[06:30] <cntb> changed NIC how to re-detect it no eth0 no eth1 either it is a rtl8139 listed in lspci
[06:32] <om3ga> ok i got it
[06:33] <om3ga> i think
[06:34] <om3ga> ok i didnt get it
[06:34] <Gtwy> is there a "keychain" program for kubuntu or should i use the gentoo one
[06:35] <PhinnFort> !money | elbing
[06:35] <jhutchins> Gtwy: Keychain?
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about money - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <cntb> changed NIC how to re-detect it no eth0 no eth1 either it is a rtl8139 listed in lspci
[06:36] <PhinnFort> !1millionUSD | elbin
[06:36] <PhinnFort> !1millionUSD | elbing
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1millionusd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <PhinnFort> Gtwy: you mean like KWallet?
[06:36] <PhinnFort> !kwallet
[06:36] <om3ga> !frostwire
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:37] <PhinnFort> om3ga: replace "FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb" with the filename of the file you downloaded
[06:37] <om3ga> ok
[06:37] <waylandbill> cntb: did a module get loaded for it?
[06:38] <tuco> Shower was good Phinn?
[06:38] <PhinnFort> cntb: "lsmod | grep rtl
[06:38] <smaggard> hey
[06:38] <PhinnFort> tuco: very pleasant
[06:38] <smaggard> whats up folks!?
[06:38] <tuco> Dear me :-)
[06:38] <PhinnFort> tuco: did you manage to enter "/media/sda1"?
[06:38] <cntb> PhinnFort: a sec
[06:38] <tuco> this only checks my hdd
[06:39] <PhinnFort> ?
[06:39] <tuco> not the 2gg stick
[06:39] <PhinnFort> since you don't have scsi harddrives, the only "SD"'s on you system should be the usb stick
[06:39] <cntb> nope PhinnFort https://wiki.ubuntu.comd/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsRealtek mentins module8139too
[06:39] <cntb> phinn can I install it from alternateCD ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> at least untill feisty fawn comes out and that new libata stuff. :)
[06:40] <PhinnFort> the linux kernel uses the same subsystem for scsi disks and usb disks
[06:40] <tuco> well when I type /media/sda1 in the broswer in konqueror. It only shows the folders in the main hdd
[06:40] <tuco> most from windows!
[06:40] <PhinnFort> tuco: weird...
[06:40] <Mena> !ping
[06:40] <ubotu> pong
[06:40] <PhinnFort> tuco: sure you don't have a scsi disk?
[06:40] <cntb> PhinnFort:  how do I redetect and nstall it . windows asks for drivers in this case
[06:41] <Mena> !ping-pong
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping-pong - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <tuco> Dude I am on a laptop...
[06:41] <tuco> and no scsi drive in sight
[06:41] <PhinnFort> dude, something is wrong
[06:41] <tuco> The stick light is ticking though
[06:41] <PhinnFort> tuco: try "ls -la /media"
[06:42] <PhinnFort> tuco: the kernel discovered it, but from the paste it didn't seem like it knew it was a storage device
[06:42] <tuco> Maybe I should need a shower again to bring more luck no?
[06:42] <PhinnFort> but, for the fun of it, how many in here knows that you can use your voice to control KDE?
[06:42] <cntb> PhinnFort: lsmod gave me a line mii 6912 8139cp,8139too
[06:42] <cntb> not many PhinnFort
[06:42] <om3ga> ok i think i got it
[06:43] <PhinnFort> System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions
[06:43] <om3ga> trying to load app now
[06:43] <cntb> PhinnFort: nice
[06:43] <PhinnFort> om3ga: nice
[06:43] <om3ga> ok wouldnt load
[06:43] <cntb> PhinnFort: lsmod gave me a line mii 6912 8139cp,8139too
[06:43] <waylandbill> cntb: then it sounds like the modules got loaded
[06:43] <om3ga> or if you're using Kubuntu:
[06:43] <om3ga> kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire
[06:43] <om3ga> Changing line 3 from:
[06:43] <om3ga> sh runFrost.sh
[06:43] <om3ga> To:
[06:43] <om3ga> bash runFrost.sh
[06:43] <robnyc> how can openoffice be recovered?
[06:43] <cntb> waylandbill:  now eth0 ?
[06:43] <om3ga> thats what the ubuntu help desk says
[06:44] <PhinnFort> om3ga: undo that edit
[06:44] <PhinnFort> rather run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash" and choose "No"
[06:44] <PhinnFort> this is because of some enormous stupidity from the ubuntu devs
[06:45] <cntb> waylandbill:  PhinnFort sudo ifconfig shows my eth0 is not up . what must the next step be ?
[06:45] <PhinnFort> cntb: do you have dhcp?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> more dash and bash fighting . :)
[06:45] <om3ga> i never did the edit
[06:45] <waylandbill> cntb: kcontrol, network, network settings
[06:45] <om3ga> i cant open kate to do it
[06:45] <PhinnFort> cntb: dhclient eth0
[06:45] <cntb> waylandbill:  was there
[06:45] <PhinnFort> om3ga: then just run the command i pasted
[06:46] <cntb> PhinnFort: trying dhclient ? sudo it ?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> cntb: yeah
[06:46] <Dr_willis> post a bug to the frostwire lists also.
[06:46] <PhinnFort> dhclient is a dhcp client
[06:46] <om3ga> ok
[06:46] <cntb> PhinnFort: trouble
[06:46] <PhinnFort> who wants to sign up to a dev-list just for filing a bug, anyways?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> cntb: ?
[06:46] <PhinnFort> cntb: you don't use dhcp?
[06:46] <cntb> error while getting interface flags nosuch device
[06:46] <PhinnFort> if not, use "ifconfig eth0 [ipaddress]  up"
[06:47] <cntb> I do use dhcp all the time
[06:47] <om3ga> what do i do from there
[06:47] <PhinnFort> cntb: do "dmesg | tail"
[06:47] <Dr_willis> actually i thought gnomefreak  sent them an email a few months back..
[06:47] <PhinnFort> om3ga: run /usr/bin/frostwire
[06:47] <waylandbill> cntb: sudo ifup eth0
[06:47] <cntb> PhinnFort:  it is a PC repair shop with 4-8 PC connected most of the time to router
[06:47] <cntb> waylandbill:  doing that
[06:47] <PhinnFort> om3ga: alt+f2, pase /usr/bin/frostwire
[06:47] <tuco> oh man I am getting tired with that stick...and I have the printer to sort out too! Please don't let me go back to wincrap...please!
[06:48] <PhinnFort> tuco: are you sure it works in wincrap?
[06:48] <PhinnFort> and what is the printer model, btw?
[06:48] <cntb> waylandbill:  PhinnFort <<< no such device >>>
[06:48] <om3ga> bad command ?
[06:48] <PhinnFort> cntb: look up
[06:48] <tuco> man...believe me it does work.
[06:48] <PhinnFort> [18:47]  <PhinnFort> cntb: do "dmesg | tail"
[06:48] <cntb> k
[06:48] <PhinnFort> tuco: that is just plain weird...
[06:48] <tuco> and it is full of pron! kidding!
[06:48] <PhinnFort> tuco: let me have a try at the printer instead, mkay?
[06:49] <tuco> ok sir
[06:49] <PhinnFort> i hate stupid stuff that won't work;)
[06:49] <om3ga> lol me too
[06:49] <tuco> man tell me...
[06:49] <Mena> plz put space bettwen the : ) and the owrd ...:D heheh
[06:49] <tuco> everything else works aprt from the stick and the printer
[06:49] <PhinnFort> luckily most of my hardware was very linux compatible
[06:49] <Mena> word8
[06:49] <cntb> PhinnFort: has some bluetooth there  on dmesg |tail also NEt : registered protocol family 31
[06:50] <PhinnFort> cntb: no mention of any errors?
[06:50] <cntb> also PhinnFort ipv6 over iv4 tunneling driver
[06:50] <smaggard> edgy worked with my volume buttons and remote out of the box :D
[06:50] <smaggard> on hp laptop
[06:50] <PhinnFort> even my tv-card worked without any hassle
[06:50] <cntb> PhinnFort: I can less the dmesg maybe
[06:50] <PhinnFort> on Gentoo, which was the first distro i used
[06:51] <PhinnFort> cntb: yeah
[06:51] <tuco> so why my simple usb stick doesnt damn it?!
[06:51] <PhinnFort> tuco: i really haven no idea
[06:51] <PhinnFort> !printers
[06:51] <waylandbill> cntb: no. "dmesg | grep 8139"
[06:51] <tuco> Hay!
[06:51] <PhinnFort> wire
[06:51] <tuco> it is an usb one
[06:52] <PhinnFort> i don't have much experience with printers under linux
[06:52] <PhinnFort> !printing
[06:52] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:52] <cntb> ty waylandbill got that 8139 chip not responding ignoring board tyvm PhinnFort waylandbill .
[06:52] <cntb> replace cadr right ?
[06:52] <tuco> I have done the thingy Phinn believe me
[06:52] <PhinnFort> cntb: probably
[06:52] <Mena> wht kubuntu doesnt work on another Pc but with my hard whay that any idea
[06:52] <Mena> why*
[06:52] <PhinnFort> tuco: what model is it?
[06:52] <tuco> Drivers installed...it shows printing but does nothing
[06:52] <tuco> Canon MP130
[06:52] <waylandbill> cntb: doesn't sound like the card is working.
[06:53] <cntb> also after bios card is not shown MB is strange
[06:53] <om3ga> ok i restarted lets see if frostwire will work now
[06:53] <PhinnFort> how can i disable that darned autocompletion in Konqueror searching?
[06:53] <tuco> with filter for the IP3200/ip4100...etc installed
[06:54] <om3ga> might end up going back to ubuntu grrr
[06:54] <tuco> bjfilter-2.5 to be exact
[06:54] <cntb> PhinnFort: disable such a nice feature ? autocompletion ?
[06:54] <PhinnFort> cntb: it's slow, and very, very buggy
[06:54] <PhinnFort> it shows on top, even though i've switched window
[06:55] <waylandbill> and leaves all his pron searches :-)
[06:55] <PhinnFort> and it shows for the first word, when i've hit enter
[06:55] <PhinnFort> sometimes is search for stuff i never intended to search for
[06:55] <PhinnFort> like i search for ubuntu, hit enter, and autocompletion search for "ubuntu with naked goat"
[06:55] <PhinnFort> or something like that
[06:55] <PhinnFort> very irritating
[06:56] <tominglis> hi, i am unable to edit the KDE menu using kmenuedit - i can change the order of things, create new folders and line breaks, but cannot edit or create shortcuts. does anyone know what is wrong?
[06:56] <dromer> Q: how can I make thunderbird open on startup? (preferably on desktop 4)
[06:56] <PhinnFort> tuco: have you tried http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon
[06:56] <Dr_willis> tuco,  after the  stuff ive seen/learned about canon printers and linux.. i dont plan on buying another canon printer... for.. well a long time.. :)
[06:56] <waylandbill> !autostart
[06:56] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:56] <tuco> This is where I went Phinn ;-)
[06:56] <PhinnFort> dromer: open "~/.kde/Autostart" in Konqi, and drag the link from the K-Menu there
[06:56] <PhinnFort> ;P
[06:57] <tuco> I've added the repo too
[06:57] <cntb> Dr_willis: what is wrong with canon
[06:57] <dromer> PhinnFort: wow thnx, how can I make it open on desktop 4?
[06:57] <tuco> It really annoyes me...when I try to print, it shows prinitng and does nothing
[06:57] <PhinnFort> dromer: i'm not really sure
[06:57] <Dr_willis> cntb,  very lacking in linux support which is a  DealKiller for me.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> cntb,  i like the printers.. but the lack of drivers well.. if i cant use the printer.. its a doorstop
[06:58] <timster> Is there a short cut to skip to the screensaver?
[06:58] <PhinnFort> dromer: when you have it open, right click on the top-bar (where the name is) and "Configure Window Behavior"
[06:58] <timster> !screensaver
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I wonder if i could set up vmware with windows98 to just run/share the canon pixima printer i got.
[06:58] <tuco> Well does it mean that I am stuck with a printer not working under Linux then?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> tuco,  depends on the exact printer.. your luck and milliage may very.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> vary
[06:59] <tuco> its' the printer with the scanner and photocopier plus sd card slots
[06:59] <PhinnFort> tuco: i'm sorry, i don't know much about printers
[06:59] <Dr_willis> tuco,  that describes half of them on the market right now. :)
[06:59] <PhinnFort> tuco: i would try contacting Canon
[06:59] <timster> !repo
[06:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:59] <Dr_willis> That comercial driver package of the CUPS stuff 'may' have better support for them.
[06:59] <tuco> if they are as good as sony I wouldnt bet my two pens
[06:59] <waylandbill> HP has good printer support. They even supply the drivers to the community.
[06:59] <elbing> linuxprinting.org
[06:59] <tuco> pennies
[07:00] <timster> ping
[07:00] <timster> oops
[07:00] <PhinnFort> dromer: "Window specific settings" -> New -> Geometry -> "Desktop" -> 4
[07:00] <timster> !ping
[07:00] <ubotu> pong
[07:00] <digitx> :)
[07:00] <om3ga> well i guess its back to ubuntu
[07:00] <tuco> Canon fodder!
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Yep. HP gets a thumb up.. but the *#&@&@ ink costs so much for some of these things  -
[07:00] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:00] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: refill?
[07:00] <PhinnFort> but now i need some food, frozen pizza is good
[07:00] <dromer> PhinnFort: thnx, do you know also how I could startup a program that's not in the menu?  I have synergys (the server for synergy)
[07:00] <Dr_willis> PhinnFort,  ever have to clean that stuff up>? :)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !synergy
[07:01] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1460 kB
[07:01] <PF-Away> dromer: right click in the folder, Create New, link to application
[07:01] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: yeah. certain models have insane cart prices.
[07:01] <tuco> Frozen pizza is yuk...heugggh!
[07:01] <PF-Away> Dr_willis: never done it myself
[07:01] <Dr_willis> dromer,  make a script that starts it. and put it in the Autostart dir..
[07:01] <PF-Away> i save trees
[07:01] <_eMaX_> anyone knows whether it is normal that when moving over the "powersave" applet in the kde ticker, the cpu frequency is always displayed to be at 800 mhz?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> dromer,  or set it up where kdm starts it.
[07:01] <smaggard> ack i cant get my ati card to show up in fglrxinfo just the mesa crap
[07:01] <elbing> add a script as a service under init.d
[07:02] <rouzic> w32codecs for feisty?
[07:02] <dromer> PF-Away / Dr_willis: I'm not sure how to do this, all I know is the command to start it is synergys
[07:02] <Dr_willis> rouzic,  get the deb from the mplayer site? i doubt if the pacjkage has any changes..
[07:02] <rouzic> thanks Dr_willis
[07:03] <Dr_willis> dromer,  make a script that has 2 lines.. #1 -- #!/bin/sh    #2 sungerywhatevercommand
[07:03] <PF-Away> dromer: just type in the command
[07:03] <Dr_willis> chmod +x the file... move it to Autostart dir.
[07:03] <PF-Away> dromer: [19:01]  <PF-Away> dromer: right click in the folder, Create New, link to application
[07:03] <dromer> thnx
[07:03] <Dr_willis> The syngery homepage i think has some info on this  and some things to watch out for
[07:03] <PF-Away> dromer: and then click "Application" -> "Command", type in command
[07:04] <PF-Away> that's the KDE way
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !find autostart
[07:04] <ubotu> Found: kcontrol-autostart
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !info kcontrol-autostart
[07:04] <ubotu> kcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 268 kB
[07:04] <Dr_willis> The kcontrol-autostart  is a handy tool to use also
[07:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> if I want to do "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/hello" every time I restart my computer, how can I do that?
[07:04] <dhq> when will blender the new version come in repos
[07:04] <dams__> hi all
[07:04] <PF-Away> !ktorrent
[07:04] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[07:04] <PF-Away> !ktorrent21
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent21 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <PF-Away> it's in the repos, i found it
[07:05] <PF-Away> but it won't come to me
[07:05] <dromer> PF-Away: ok :)  theres more to the server btw, but it's to do with a ssh-port and the client, but I think I'll have to do that matually
[07:05] <PF-Away> ok
[07:05] <waylandbill> dettoaltrimenti_: add to your /etc/fstab
[07:05] <dams__> somebody  experiencing problem with a-foto on superkaramba
[07:05] <dams__> ??
[07:05] <XenThraL> anyone know a guide to get daemon tools running in kubuntu?
[07:05] <PF-Away> dams__: i've used it before no problem
[07:06] <Dr_willis>  daemon tools  - as in the 'fake cd copy protection tool for windows' ?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> one of the WORSE named programs ive ever seen. :)
[07:06] <XenThraL> yes
[07:06] <dams__> got this msg "Call to widgetUpdated failed"! any idea
[07:07] <dams__> ?
[07:07] <Dr_willis> XenThraL,  Good LUCK with that.. i doubt if its doable.. outside of using vmware and a whole emulated os.
[07:07] <XenThraL> hummmm
[07:07] <jermain[reading] > Dams_: i think your call to WidgetUpdated failed
[07:07] <Dr_willis> CDemu for Linux is very similar to Daemon Tools for windows. It allows you to mount a bin/cue CD image as a virtual CDROM.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> is what google showed. :)
[07:08] <om3ga> to switch to ubuntu desktop i just need to install ubuntu desktop through adet right
[07:08] <waylandbill> but iso's can just be loop mounted easy enough.
[07:08] <jermain[reading] > Dams_: :) j/k i have no idea
[07:08] <SeanTater> I "downloaded" a kate syntax file, an update for python. I want to go back to the old one, how do I do that?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> of course it depends on wha tyou are doing with DeamonTools - there may be alternatives that do what you need.
[07:09] <waylandbill> om3ga: yes. that will make gdm the desktop manager and add the gnome desktop
[07:09] <dams__> ty
[07:09] <om3ga> ok
[07:10] <mefisto__> something's wrong with my menu. hovering the mouse over the multimedia submenu crashes the panel. also, menu editor crashes when I try to edit the multimedia submenu
[07:11] <Cugel> mefisto: still having the problem?
[07:11] <om3ga> so when i restart i will be in ubuntu i guess?
[07:11] <mefisto__> Cugel: yep.
[07:11] <Cugel> omega: of coursel.
[07:11] <Cugel> mefisto: what have you tried already.
[07:11] <skywalker_> how do I find out what servers are running?
[07:12] <mike> Can I install synaptic package manager in kubuntu?
[07:12] <isioma> yea how do i find out what severs are running
[07:12] <Cugel> mike: of course.
[07:12] <waylandbill> om3ga: with KDE available from the session menu and all the install kde apps available in gnome, but other than that, yes
[07:12] <om3ga> nice sounds even better i can go between the two
[07:12] <schisms> How would I go about that?
[07:12] <mefisto__> Cugel: I've looked for /menu folders, trying to track down what's stopping the multimedia menu from working
[07:13] <schisms> I just made the switch to Kubuntu today.
[07:13] <Cugel> You should be able to edit a file -- I'm not sure what file though.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> do what?
[07:13] <om3ga> adet isnt bad
[07:13] <om3ga> schisms: adept isnt bad
[07:13] <schisms> install synaptic package manager in kubuntu
[07:14] <schisms> Oh, I'm too used to synaptic.
[07:14] <Cugel> mefisto: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=363449
[07:14] <tuco> guys with printers problem: http://www.turboprint.info/
[07:14] <waylandbill> just install synaptic package.
[07:14] <Cugel> tuco: isn't that some commercial thing?
[07:14] <ghetek> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:14] <ghetek> how do i fix this one?
[07:14] <tuco> is it? I just found it
[07:15] <schisms> Actually what I really need are the synaptic repositories.  I want to install camorama
[07:15] <Cugel> Google for it -- it's a known 'solution' but they try and sell it.
[07:15] <Cugel> schisms: sudo apt-get camorama (from console)
[07:15] <skywalker_> I upgraded xubuntu form ubuntu and I dont see a diffence
[07:16] <skywalker_> did I do it right?
[07:16] <Cugel> No difference? No, then.;
[07:16] <skywalker_> k
[07:16] <schisms> Can't find the package camorama
[07:16] <ghetek> there is no audio coming out of my amarok. it comes out of my laptop speakers but does not work when docked (the dock is connected to my larger speaker system) when i boot into windows all works well. so i know it isnt a wiring issue
[07:17] <skywalker_> but at the logging screen Cugel it says xubuntu
[07:17] <skywalker_> loggin*
[07:17] <om3ga> xubuntu is more of a down grade i would thgink
[07:17] <Cugel> skywalker: select KDE from the session options?
[07:17] <Cugel> I'm confused.
[07:17] <skywalker_> mmm I heard it was an upgrade
[07:18] <schisms> All I want to do is install camorama in kubuntu, can someone point me to the right repositories?
[07:18] <eddy> hi
[07:18] <skywalker_> I got to install KDE
[07:18] <Cugel> Xubuntu is ubuntu running XFCE -- nothing to do with KDE etc.
[07:18] <skywalker_> I aways used kde
[07:18] <eddy> anyone czech in here?
[07:18] <eddy> je tu ech?
[07:18] <skywalker_> ahhhh ok Cugel thank you
[07:18] <skywalker_> I will choose that session
[07:18] <Cugel> schisms: get the deb file at http://camorama.fixedgear.org/download.php
[07:18] <om3ga> xumbuntu is kind of empty to me i have used it live
[07:19] <schisms> thanks
[07:19] <Cugel> download that deb file to your home folder, then do dpkg -i *.deb (in your home folder). Does the trick!
[07:19] <Cugel> oh and add sudo to that.
[07:19] <skywalker_> I been useing linux for a few years and it is far more better then windows but deb is new to me
[07:20] <Cugel> .deb is a Debian file -- and since Ubuntu is a version of Debian...
[07:20] <waylandbill> a derivative of debian. I wouldn't go installing debian packages in ubuntu unless you know what you're doing.
[07:20] <Cugel> Let me know if it works -- it works fine on my machine anyway.
[07:21] <Cugel> wayland: if you don't run into lots of dependency errors (I know I've done that) then there should be no problem at all.
[07:21] <waylandbill> I mean from debian's repos of course.
[07:21] <Cugel> well if apt-get works then I always go with that.
[07:22] <skywalker_> I dont think its that hard  waylandbill but then it depends on what your trying to do
[07:22] <schisms> how do I install the .deb?
[07:22] <schisms> I'm so used to gnome
[07:22] <Cugel> schisms: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[07:22] <waylandbill> due to configuration differences in debian and ubuntu, there is risk.
[07:22] <schisms> thanks
[07:22] <Dr_willis> normally one uses the package manager and lets it download/install the debs
[07:22] <Cugel> Well for camorama there are no risks, it's quite a simple program.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> but i just am seeing the tail end of this conversation. :)
[07:22] <skywalker_> I hardly used Gnome this is as much as I ever used thois
[07:22] <Cugel> As I've said already, don't be afraid of that command line.
[07:23] <skywalker_> this*
[07:23] <skywalker_> waylandbill what are the risk's
[07:23] <Dr_willis> 'come over to the console side!'
[07:23] <cpk1> I am dissapointed with mplayer -vo caca though, the video gets way behind the audio
[07:24] <cpk1> if that worked well for me then it would be lots more fun to use tty6 and below =P
[07:24] <waylandbill> skywalker_: having incompatible configurations. I can assure you if you ask in debian's irc channel they will tell you not to use official debian packages in ubuntu. :-)
[07:24] <skywalker_> I had a problem installing VMPlayer
[07:24] <Dr_willis> cpk1,  if you wach only Kung-Fu movies - it dosent matter...
[07:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:24] <skywalker_> ahhh ok thanks
[07:24] <schisms> Gave me an error
[07:25] <schisms> Strange
[07:25] <cpk1> Dr_willis: lol
[07:25] <Cugel> What is the error.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> "Drunken Master" = My Fave.
[07:25] <Cugel> Dependency on some package, I presume.
[07:25] <cpk1> I even resized my tty's so it would be viable but I think the video is double framing
[07:25] <waylandbill> gotta run. happy computing
[07:25] <skywalker_> anyone see the PC vs MAC commerical with the firewall dude?
[07:26] <cpk1> libcaca is actually surprisingly good though
[07:26] <schisms> What would be the easiest way to install camorama?
[07:26] <schisms> Again, new to kde.
[07:26] <cpk1> what does camorama do?
[07:26] <schisms> webcam viewer
[07:26] <cpk1> also, its in the repos
[07:27] <cpk1> so use your favorite apt frontend
[07:28] <guiden> I can't watch the movies on youtube and google vide with konqueror, what should I do?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> guiden,  install the flash player yet?
[07:28] <guiden> nope
[07:28] <Dr_willis> well thats step 1 i guess
[07:28] <guiden> ok
[07:29] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:29] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:29] <guiden> is there a plugin for flash in konqueror?
[07:29] <Gtwy> are there any useful X11 apps for a server that give you statistics or show bandwidth or do anything neat?
[07:29] <guiden> OK thanks
[07:29] <Dr_willis> konqueror 'should' see/use the firefox plugins as far as i know
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Gtwy,  oodles of apps that show ooodles of things.. :)
[07:29] <Gtwy> Dr_willis: just asking for a few packages off the top of anyones head
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Gtwy,  superkaramba has lots of desktop widgets.. or theres the windowmaker dock apps.. or theres some kde-panel-applets
[07:30] <guiden> why does kubuntu use open office and not koffice?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want to watch/see
[07:32] <guiden> Dr_willis there is no flash in add/remove programs
[07:33] <mneisen> Hi, I am using beryl on KDE 3.5.6/Kubuntu Edgy Eft. I Installed and configured everything according to the wiki. My problem: katapult is not starting anymore. Any guess?
[07:33] <mefisto__> when I restart kicker from console, I get "QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size is (0,0)" Is it normal to see that message, or could this be related to my problem menu?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> guiden,  check the box's that show comercial/whatever stuff perhaps? or follow the !flash guide the bot posted.
[07:38] <guiden> ok
[07:38] <mike> How do I enable the installing of gnome programs in adept?
[07:40] <mike> hello?
[07:40] <noxs> hi all.....someone german?
[07:40] <belle> ciao
[07:40] <mike> How do I enable the installing of gnome programs in adept?
[07:41] <cntb> !de
[07:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:41] <belle> ce qualche italiano?
[07:41] <cntb> ha
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: should be in there
[07:41] <cntb> !it
[07:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:41] <cntb> belle LJl is
[07:42] <cntb> va bene ?
[07:42] <belle> grazie
[07:42] <jesusx> hello ~
[07:42] <mike> How do I enable the installing of gnome programs in adept?
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: gnome apps are there as well.
[07:43] <jesusx> sudo apt-get install
[07:43] <mike> But it doesn't allow me to install them
[07:43] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: what do you mean it doesn't allow you
[07:43] <jesusx> sodo
[07:43] <jesusx> sudo
[07:43] <mike> They aren't lit up, and I cannot x them for installation
[07:43] <jesusx> use 'sudo'
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> mike: in run command type: kdesu adept_manager
[07:44] <smaggard> hey
[07:44] <mike> now what?
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> should work if you hit ener
[07:45] <mike> what do I do in adept manager?
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> try to install gnome apps
[07:46] <mike> alright
[07:46] <mneisen> Hi, I am using beryl on KDE 3.5.6/Kubuntu Edgy Eft. I Installed and configured everything according to the wiki. My problem: katapult is not starting anymore. Any guess?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> beryl may be taking over the katapult key sequence - so if it is starting - you just cant activate it
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> mneisen: yes, beryl is crashing katapult
[07:48] <kvizac> hello
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> the background image is theproblem
[07:48] <fignew> mneisen/Admiral: my katapult works fine
[07:48] <fignew> I just had to rebind the key
[07:48] <mneisen> Admiral_Chicago: But not always. It used to work here on my home machine (ATI + fglrx +XGL + beryl) and on my machine at work (Intel + x.org + beryl).
[07:48] <mneisen> fignew: how?
[07:49] <fignew> ohh, actually, mneisen, go to be beryl prefs
[07:49] <fignew> through the systray icon
[07:49] <frank___> hey...i have trouble with superkaramba...i had to shut it down and now there are some things i downloaded (rss feed reader, stock watcher) missing in my list....but the problem is, that i cant downlaod them anymore! whats the problem
[07:49] <fignew> and there's something in beryl that has the <alt> space binding
[07:49] <mneisen> fignew: ok, and now ...?
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> mneisen: crashed it on my XGL + beryl + Nvidia
[07:49] <fignew> do a search for space :)
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> mneisen: but i use free drivers now. so...
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> afk
[07:50] <fignew> NV driver works with beryl?
[07:50] <fignew> ohh crap, I gotta get going too, have class in 10 minutes
[07:50] <fignew> did that work mneisen?
[07:51] <mneisen> fignew: could not find this setting ...
[07:51] <mneisen> :-(
[07:51] <eddy> hey
[07:51] <eddy> does it exist in kubuntu a 3d desktop?
[07:51] <mike> Still won't let me download camorama
[07:51] <fignew> mneisen: 1 sec
[07:51] <mneisen> fignew: got it :-D
[07:52] <fignew> sweet :)
[07:52] <mneisen> oh yes.
[07:52] <mneisen> fignew: thank you so much.
[07:52] <mneisen> have to restart, though.
[07:52] <mneisen> :-D
[07:52] <mneisen> bye
[07:52] <fignew> :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> i never use it.
[07:53] <fignew> Dr_willis: you're missing out :)
[07:53] <frank___> hey...i have trouble with superkaramba...i had to shut it down and now there are some things i downloaded (rss feed reader, stock watcher) missing in my list....but the problem is, that i cant downlaod them anymore! whats the problem
[07:53] <Dr_willis> given all the eye-candy-obsession lately.. im about to start usign Matchbox or JWM as my main window manager. :)
[07:54] <mneisen> ^^
[07:54] <eddy> hey, anyone, can i have a 3D desktop on Kubuntu?
[07:54] <mneisen> eddy: Yes, try beryl or compiz.
[07:54] <mneisen> !compiz
[07:54] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <mneisen> !beryl
[07:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:54] <Dr_willis> i normally set up kde to use the windows-keybindings.. so alt-cpace gibves me the window-menu. :()
[07:54] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[08:03] <slyfox> Has anyone successfuly synced their phonebook with their mobile phone via bluetooth? Help.
[08:04] <frank___> hey...i have trouble with superkaramba...i had to shut it down and now there are some things i downloaded (rss feed reader, stock watcher) missing in my list....but the problem is, that i cant downlaod them anymore! whats the problem
[08:05] <tominglis> hi, i am unable to edit the KDE menu using kmenuedit - i can change the order of things, create new folders and line breaks, but cannot edit or create shortcuts. does anyone know what is wrong?
[08:05] <noxs> nabend
[08:05] <tominglis> nob end?
[08:06] <noxs> mein problem: ich habe keine umlaute und kein pipe-zeichen und/oder at-zeichen.-...in xorg.conf schon gebastelt...nix.....locales neu konfiguriert...nix..
[08:07] <noxs> auf konsole wechseln mit alt-strg-F1......8 geht auch nimmer...
[08:07] <digitx> http://digitx.homelinux.org:1234/?u=username&p=password
[08:09] <eMaX> re
[08:09] <eMaX> ne1 here knows why the performance / power daemon applet in the kde kicker would constantly show one given cpu frequency (like 800 MHz on my system)
[08:11] <orbitando_> ciao
[08:11] <orbitando_> qualche italiano ?
[08:11] <eMaX> !it
[08:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:11] <Gandja_>  /j hideaway
[08:16] <mike> How do I enable the installation of gnome programs in adept?
[08:16] <mike> This is what I see when I try to install them
[08:16] <mike> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/safersquall/snapshot1.png
[08:17] <timster> Is there a KDE Menu replacement like KBFX?
[08:17] <timster> But not KBFX
[08:18] <chavo> timster, there is the Suse one called kickoff
[08:18] <mike> I really want to install camorama
[08:18] <timster> Any others
[08:18] <mike> But adept won't let me
[08:18] <chavo> there is a kubuntu deb for it
[08:19] <chavo> I believe that's it
[08:19] <timster> Okay
[08:19] <timster> Kickoff, how can I install it?
[08:19] <smaggard> hey
[08:19] <gdiebel> eMaX: what is the cpu?
[08:19] <mike> I tried installing the deb but it had an error
[08:20] <smaggard> edgy and ati xpress 200m. cant get the fglrxinfo to report anything but the mesa driver, but xorg has fglrx and also i can modprobe fglrx
[08:20] <eMaX> some sort of manually assembled wire mashup sitting under my keyboard
[08:20] <smaggard> any ideas ive been googling for a few hours now
[08:20] <chavo> timster, are you on edgy?
[08:20] <smaggard> and ive run into this before but i forgot what i had to do
[08:20] <timster> 6.06
[08:21] <mike> I just want to install a gnome app on kde, but apedt won't let me. Any ideas?
[08:21] <mike> *adept
[08:21] <timster> Which is dapper
[08:21] <chavo> the deb is for edgy
[08:21] <timster> Ah
[08:21] <timster> Darn
[08:21] <chavo> you can try it tho]
[08:21] <chavo> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=50240
[08:22] <chavo> you can always reinstall the normal kicker if it fails
[08:22] <jhutchins> mike: I'm pretty sure I've had it installed.  What do you mean it "won't let you"?
[08:22] <schisms> I just want to install a gnome app on kde, but adept won't let me. Any ideas?
[08:22] <schisms> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/safersquall/snapshot1.png
[08:22] <eMaX> gdiebel: or something like /proc/acpi/processor/CPU, giving me also access to /proc/acpi/processor/CPU/power
[08:22] <schisms> See?
[08:22] <schisms> I can't select it.
[08:22] <schisms> And I tried sudoing it
[08:22] <chavo> schisms, don't repeat so often
[08:22] <schisms> I've been trying to get this to work for hours though.
[08:23] <l33testmort> hi, trouble compiling from source rdesktop 1.4.1. log is here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/37440    help anyone? some dep is missing and cant figure out wich one
[08:23] <Gtwy> what package is statfs in
[08:24] <jhutchins> schisms: What happens if you do sudo apt-get install f-spot ?
[08:24] <jhutchins> Gtwy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[08:25] <schisms> argh, can't try it right now, doing a full upgrade
[08:25] <chavo> l33testmort, why are you compiling?
[08:25] <LycanNyc-work> how do i install proper openoffice.org for kde ?
[08:25] <jhutchins> l33testmort: This is why we use apt to manage packages and dependencies.
[08:25] <jhutchins> LycanNyc-work: apt-get openoffice?
[08:26] <schisms> It should be preinstalled
[08:26] <l33testmort> chavo, because i wanted to patch rdesktop
[08:26] <jhutchins> LycanNyc-work: no, it's sudo apt-get install openoffice
[08:26] <LycanNyc-work> rolf
[08:26] <gdiebel> eMaX: is your cpu supposed to change frequency (ie speedstep)? if so the kicker applet does not always reflect the values the kernel shows in /sys/devices/system/cpu/*. insert other kernel abstractions as you wish
[08:26] <chavo> l33testmort, sudo apt-get build-dep rdesktop
[08:26] <guiden_> should I restart the computer after I updated packages?
[08:26] <LycanNyc-work> for some reason i dont like rdesktop or krdc .. i prefer tsclient
[08:27] <jermain> >,> does anyone have experience with databases in open office?
[08:28] <chavo> schisms, did you try running adetp mamnger insted of add/remove
[08:28] <eMaX> well actually the max frequency should be 2.1 GHz yet /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq keeps reporting 800MHz
[08:28] <schisms> yeah
[08:28] <schisms> Nothing
[08:28] <schisms> I don't know why it won't let me select it to download
[08:28] <chavo> wierd, how about apt-get install on the command line?
[08:28] <schisms> Didn't work either, package not found
[08:28] <gdiebel> eMaX: yeah it is probably speedstepping
[08:29] <chavo> sounds like maybe the cd is the only soure in your sources.list
[08:29] <eMaX> that means I'm not getting that info anywhere?
[08:29] <eMaX> gdiebel: from /proc/acpi/processor/CPU/power I see the CPU is mostly running in C2 (from C1, C2, C3), sometimes in C3. When I disable usb modules, it is mostly C3.
[08:30] <r3factored> anyone have any ideas why i have to turn my volume up to the max to hear it? (other than being deaf which im not)- im using the HDA nvidia (intel) chipset
[08:31] <schisms> I have the same problem with my laptop speakers
[08:31] <gdiebel> eMaX: core2 duo?
[08:31] <eMaX> no
[08:31] <johey> Can I configure the special "multimedia" keys on my keyboard to act hotkeys for my programs?
[08:31] <eMaX> just a thinkpad t43p
[08:31] <r3factored> schisms: its very odd - the sound isnt muffled just low
[08:31] <chavo> r3factored, is the PCM channel turned down?
[08:31] <eMaX> gdiebel: scaling_available_frequences says 2133000 1866000 1600000 1333000 1066000 800000
[08:31] <r3factored> chavo: no its turned all the way up
[08:32] <Adydaz> err
[08:32] <Adydaz> wtf does this mean
[08:32] <Adydaz> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2006-10-26 03:03 srv
[08:32] <Adydaz> ?---------   ? ?    ?        ?                ? store
[08:32] <Adydaz> drwxr-xr-x  11 root root     0 2007-02-27 20:42 sys
[08:32] <r3factored> its a 7.1 audio setup - im using the front speakers
[08:32] <Adydaz> ?--------- ??    ?        ?                        ? store
[08:32] <r3factored> im going to try the other jacks
[08:33] <r3factored> nope all same level
[08:33] <gdiebel> eMaX: is it actually stepping up to higher freq on load?
[08:35] <just22> hi, may u know anything about iPhone?
[08:35] <Cugel> just22: why do you ask here?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> help please, I get throwed back to kdm greet everytime I boot
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> it takes my password
[08:36] <just22> whwere do i have to?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> it just won't start
[08:36] <Cugel> #apple?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> I checked dmesg for errors
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> nothing
[08:36] <just22> thanks;-)
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> nothin
[08:36] <eMaX> gdiebel: no
[08:36] <Cugel> What do you mean 'don't start'. What happens exactly?
[08:36] <DarkWizzard> I'm under windows
[08:36] <eMaX> I have 100 % cpu load due to fgl_glxgears
[08:37] <eMaX> stays at 800 MHz
[08:37] <DarkWizzard> I get throwed back to the login screen
[08:37] <Cugel> DarkW: time to find some real log file -- apparently something crashes badly.
[08:37] <eMaX> gdiebel:  the temperature of the cpu goes up by like 10C though
[08:38] <Zhanev> i have continuous timeouts on kopete (msn) since I installed an ADSL router between the computer and the modem, anyone can help?
[08:38] <DarkWizzard> what should I search for ?
[08:39] <Cugel> Darkw: maybe reboot and use failsafe mode?
[08:39] <Zhanev> it also happens on amsn, and i properly configured port forwarding (with some googled instructions)
[08:39] <eMaX> hmm. should perhaps switch my fan on
[08:39] <Cugel> Zhanev: are you sure port forwarding really works?
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> I tryed
[08:39] <Zhanev> how can i make sure?
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> recovery mode
[08:39] <timster> How can I install MySql
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> switching the login screen to failsafe
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> starting x from the command line
[08:39] <Cugel> Zhanev: use some service (on the web) to ping that port.
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> x works
[08:39] <timster> !mysql
[08:39] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:39] <DarkWizzard> I just get throwed back to the login screen
[08:40] <n8k99> timster: sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:40] <Zhanev> well, i also configured the port thing for amule cause i had low id and the problem was solved
[08:40] <timster> n8k99: how do I access all the database management
[08:40] <Cugel> http://www.whatsmyip.org/ports/
[08:41] <eddy> hey, please, can anyone tell me, how to install a program? I'm a real beginner with linux
[08:41] <gdiebel> eMaX: perhaps the scaling_governor is set to powersave mode or whatever they call it
[08:41] <timster> eddy: what program is it?
[08:41] <Cugel> eddy: you use the Synaptic manager.
[08:41] <n8k99> timster: that is a different sort of question than installing i believe
[08:41] <Zhanev> Cugel: checking the adress you gave me, ty
[08:41] <timster> Heh, lol
[08:41] <eddy> Beryl
[08:41] <timster> lol
[08:41] <timster> I need to be able to use it :p
[08:41] <n8k99> there is a kde graphical frontend in the repos as well timster
[08:42] <gdiebel> eMaX:  echo 'ondemand' > /sys/devices/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[08:42] <Cugel> Wait a minute, you're new to Linux and already you want to install Beryl?
[08:42] <eddy> qhat's a synaptic manager?
[08:42] <Cugel> I strongly do not recommend that.
[08:42] <eddy> what*
[08:42] <eddy> why?
[08:42] <parkerw207> beryl is tricky at the best of times
[08:42] <parkerw207> especially for a newbie
[08:42] <Cugel> Well, to install/run Beryl I recommend knowing a bit more about Linux in general.
[08:42] <parkerw207> and i cound myself as a newbie :P
[08:43] <timster> Mysql doesnt exist in the reppos
[08:43] <Cugel> I mean, if you don't get a screen when you reboot (after installing it) -- do you know what to do about it?
[08:43] <timster> Does it have another name?
[08:43] <n8k99> then timster this is for you !mysql
[08:43] <Cugel> timster: try apt-cache search mysql
[08:43] <eddy> I know a bit about linux in general
[08:43] <eMaX> gdiebel:
[08:43] <eMaX> same thing
[08:44] <eMaX> was even at "Performance"
[08:44] <timster> Cugel: Which one is it though, there are hundreds
[08:44] <eddy> I would probably login as root
[08:44] <timster> !mysql
[08:44] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:44] <eddy> and try to uninstall it
[08:44] <eMaX> gdiebel:  btw I wonder which cpu temperature is still tolerable - since I'm running fgl_glxgears the temperature moved up from 60C to 75C
[08:44] <eddy> OR try to find some information on the Inet
[08:44] <Cugel> In that case, eddy: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:44] <bigleon> Question, I got Kubunto 6.06, and i want to get into myspace chat. Unfornately, I need Macromedia(I dl'ed file provided by the Konqueror link) I haave not a clue how to install Manually.
[08:45] <gdiebel> eMaX: not sure what else to check atm. good luck
[08:45] <eMaX> tnx
[08:45] <Cugel> You do need to change your sources.list file. So you do need the command line etc.
[08:46] <timster> !flash bigleon
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash bigleon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <eddy> Cugel, thx for caring, but, how do I use those commands as install, makeinstall or config, as written in the README file?
[08:47] <bigleon> It doesn't know anything Timster
[08:47] <timster> !flash
[08:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <Cugel> eddy: no need for those.
[08:47] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:47] <timster> It should
[08:47] <bigleon> lol
[08:47] <bigleon> !backports
[08:47] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:47] <timster> Cugel: what package is flash again?
[08:47] <Cugel> You need to add some repositories so that you can install beryl. Can someone point him to a manual for synaptic?
[08:47] <Cugel> !synaptic
[08:47] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[08:47] <Cugel> That.
[08:48] <Cugel> eddy: all you need to know is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851
[08:50] <eddy> thank you very much, guys!!!
[08:50] <bigleon> Another question, How many Video cards can Kubuntu support? IS it possible to put in like 4 PCI and 1 AGP cards?
[08:50] <eddy> bye for now
[08:51] <chavo> bigleon, sure you'll have fun writing your xorg.conf but it should work
[08:51] <bigleon> Lol so no plug in play i would asume...
[08:51] <Cugel> Poor eddy.
[08:51] <bigleon> The file xorg.conf sounds like a nitemare alone.
[08:52] <Cugel> bigleon: don't let it scare you -- no wait, let it.
[08:52] <Cugel> One mistyped comma and you'll suffer. Always back up xorg.conf, even if you only open it.
[08:53] <bigleon> Lol... Yeah... I might get one ofmy linux junky friends, and be like "Make it work please"
[08:53] <Cugel> The number of video cards shouldn't be a problem -- but you need to add them to xorg.conf alright.
[08:53] <bigleon> Hmmm is there a guide any where?
[08:54] <Cugel> google for 'xorg.conf guide'
[08:54] <bigleon> Okay thanks :D
[08:55] <parkerw207> how would i install a distro to an external hard drive ?
[08:58] <guiden_> I can't find a direct connect client for kde, is there one?
[08:59] <schisms> Man, I still can't get camorama to work
[08:59] <schisms> Can I get a link to the debs again?  I'm going to try another
[09:01] <Zhanev> Cugel: I changed the configuration of the router from "port forwarding" to "port triggering", hope it makes the trick... thank you btw
[09:03] <xBill> sers @ all
[09:03] <mikecb> has anyone else had a problem with adept after update today?
[09:04] <mikecb> its just gone
[09:04] <timster> Kopete replacement anyone?
[09:04] <xBill> timster: gaim ?
[09:04] <timster> I installed it, but It hasnt shown up on my app list
[09:05] <xBill> K-menu -> "run command" -> enter gaim -> hope it starts
[09:06] <timster> xBill: It worked
[09:06] <xBill> fine
[09:07] <xBill> :-)
[09:07] <timster> lol
[09:07] <xBill> timster : y?
[09:09] <timster> I hate Kopete
[09:13] <mneisen> fignew: Thanks for your help - everything works now!
[09:16] <guiden_> I can't find a guide to install propertary drivers in kubuntu, only ubuntu
[09:17] <xBill> ati ? nvidia ?
[09:18] <Eruantalon> I have some cd's which might be scratched I would like to copy them to my hardrive to try and install from there. What would be the best fault-tolerant program for cd-copying?
[09:18] <ratbert90> hello
[09:19] <ratbert90> is there a way to make quanta upload to a sftp server when I hit save?
[09:19] <BluesKaj> Eruantalon, K3B should do it
[09:19] <guiden_> ati
[09:20] <Eruantalon> BluesKaj: Well it hangs on errors
[09:20] <apol> hi, I'm installing feisty and when I'm installing it, at the prepare mountpoints step, it tells me "invalid mount point" and doesn't let me continue
[09:20] <apol> any idea about it?
[09:21] <Eruantalon> Is there a program that will continue or do something reasonable about unreadable sectors?
[09:21] <yannick> Hello, how to import outlook pst (on usb key) to my kubuntu thunderBird THANKS...
[09:21] <xBill> guiden: there are some packages with fglrx in synaptic/adept, i'm also trying to get it installed
[09:22] <schisms> I just want to install a gnome app on kde, but adept won't let me. Any ideas?
[09:22] <hellcattrav> hi all
[09:23] <gdiebel> ratbert90: use the power of kioslaves. just enter "sftp://user@host:file" into the save dialog
[09:24] <guiden_> xBill, I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:24] <BluesKaj> schisms, most gnome apps have kde equivalents
[09:24] <ratbert90> gdiebel, how about ssh?
[09:25] <mneisen> !fglrx
[09:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:25] <gdiebel> ratbert90: fish://user@host:file
[09:25] <xBill> guiden : looks good
[09:25] <ratbert90> nice
[09:26] <mefisto__> schisms: Adept won't let you? what do you mean?
[09:26] <schisms> I'm trying to install camorama
[09:26] <schisms> And it won't let me select it in adept
[09:26] <agente2012> hi
[09:26] <ratbert90> last question.  Is there a way to make quanta upload automaticly via creating a profile?
[09:26] <gdiebel> ratbert90: yes verrrry niiice,
[09:27] <hellcattrav> yo
[09:27] <cpk1> schisms: do you have multiverse/universe enabled?
[09:28] <mefisto__> schisms: have you found it in adept?
[09:28] <xBill> ubotu: does is work the same with feisty ?
[09:28] <guiden_> ubotu is a bot
[09:28] <thelostbyte_> does fiesty come with kde 4 ?
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <schisms> how do I enable them?
[09:28] <schisms> I'm new to kde
[09:28] <BluesKaj> Eruantalon, have you tried 'todisc' , it may work
[09:29] <gdiebel> ratbert90: not sure what you mean
[09:29] <cpk1> schisms: are you using adept?
[09:29] <schisms> yeah
[09:29] <cpk1> schisms: go to view > manage repositories
[09:30] <schisms> in adept installer?
[09:30] <cpk1> schisms: yes
[09:30] <schisms> alright
[09:31] <ratbert90> gdiebel, project > new profile
[09:31] <cpk1> schisms: there is probably a line with multiverse that is commented out, I believe the default list tells you what to do to enable it
[09:31] <SSJ_GZ> |lostbyte|: Not by default, no.  See e.g. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKde4Plan
[09:31] <ratbert90> you can have it set up supposidly to have quanta just grab everything automaticly right from the ftp/ssh
[09:32] <|lostbyte|> k.. tx
[09:32] <donovan> hallo
[09:32] <donovan> ich brauche dringend hilfe mit kubuntu
[09:32] <rahmetli> i tried to create new menu entries, which is a command should work in console,when i click it konsole opens and suddenly wanishes.
[09:32] <donovan> ich mach grad n upgrade von dapper auf edgy
[09:33] <xBill> donovan: eigntlich steht in der motd ja _nur_ english
[09:33] <xBill> aber als her damit
[09:33] <donovan> sry. we can do this in english too...
[09:34] <xBill> ok
[09:34] <xBill> :)
[09:34] <donovan> adept says: "Errors were encountered while processing: lsb-base"
[09:34] <donovan> then it cancels the update procedure.
[09:34] <donovan> don't know what to do now.
[09:35] <Cugel> donovan: try and do it from the command line (whatever you're installing).
[09:35] <donovan> it configured some of the packages already
[09:35] <Cugel> Maybe it'll give you some more information.
[09:35] <nasab> ubuntu
[09:35] <nasab> #ubuntu
[09:35] <Cugel> Eh, yes?
[09:35] <donovan> @cugel: i do a dist-upgrade.
[09:35] <xBill> donovan: aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:36] <xBill> from the command line
[09:36] <donovan> wait a sec