[13:06] <synapse> wols: they were installed with the nvidia thing
[13:06] <krazykrivda> chenthu: I use to be able to open up nautilus.. copy paste files there.. do antyhing as if it were jsut another ordinary folder.. no longer is that the case
[13:06] <wols> florin91: secring.gpg is owned by root and that's why it fails
[13:07] <wols> synapse: I don't support nvidia.run installers. ask nvidia
[13:07] <Janine> the mouse works and everything on it except vertical scrolling works too
[13:07] <synapse> ok
[13:07] <Janine> compdoc,  the mouse works and everything on it except vertical scrolling works too
[13:07] <synapse> I am in there
[13:07] <ZwIrc> is there a fast command to delete that partition then?
[13:07] <knoppix> does anyone have experience with split and cat and 150G files?
[13:07] <florin91> And random.seed as well ?
[13:08] <alessioalex> hmmm, even in production I get a 404 page with "No route matches "/lskjdfksjdjsdlf""
[13:08] <alessioalex> But I want the page 404.html
[13:08] <alessioalex> from public
[13:08] <wols> knoppix: we don't support knoppix
[13:09] <alessioalex> What do I have to do so that it displays that page, not that stupid "no route" message?
[13:09] <florin91> @wols And how can I own those files?
[13:09] <chenthu> krazykrivda: does it mount automatically or u mount it manually?
[13:09] <m0ijk> Good evening. I just installed ubuntu on a stationary computer. just got it so I know little about it (was my fathers). It's a core 2 duo with 4gb of ram and ati 4850 - thats all I know for now. However, the fans runs like crazy. so I'm trying to get them under control. installed lm-sensors and run the script. however, it just report the cpu fan. nothing from the other fans. what is the easiest way to get fan control running, and/or what to do
[13:09] <m0ijk>  with the 0 RPM fans?
[13:09] <wols> !permissions | florin91
[13:09] <knoppix> it should be linux in general, thanks anyway
[13:09] <krazykrivda> chenthu: i can do either.. right now I have been using fstab to mount.. and have been for years.. i can manual mount if that woudl solve my probelm thopuhg..
[13:09] <wols> m0ijk: which fan "runs like crazy"?
[13:10] <krazykrivda> chenthu: running the 'mount' command i get this... /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)
[13:10] <html> dr_willis,  thanks  it worked
[13:10] <chenthu> krazykrivda: u could try manual mount by mounting to a dir created by u on desktop
[13:10] <m0ijk> wols: there is a huge one on the chassis, one on the cpu and one on the psu. so probably one of them
[13:10] <dr_willis> html,  which did?
[13:11] <krazykrivda> chenthu: can u give specuific cmd for me to type into terminal and I will try
[13:11] <compdoc> Janine, according to google, ppl have that mouse working in ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04. which version you using?
[13:11] <krazykrivda> wols: are you out of ideas as well
[13:11] <Janine> compdoc, 11.04
[13:11] <wols> krazykrivda: pretty much. don't see a reason for the behaviour
[13:11] <html> booted, but didnt work
[13:12] <florin91> @wols Why not just to be sure use chmod 777 files ?
[13:12] <alberto> Hello, I need some help here... I just installed mySQL server on Ubuntu 11 and everytime I try to initiate it, the message that gives me is Fake initctl... Any ideas of what I should do?
[13:13] <compdoc> Janine, try this:   http://wiki.eeeuser.com/configure_logitech_vx_nano
[13:13] <mohsin^> I am using lubuntu 11.04 .. on T61. i am trying to reduce mouse sensitivity but UI does not work
[13:14] <wols> m0ijk: if it's the trackpoint: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Sensitivity_.26_Speed
[13:14] <chenthu> krazykrivda: create a folder in desktop, then check whether you have your ur disk already mounted if so use  "umount" to unmount... the remount it to the folder u creared...for eg i f i have created a folder on desktop name" hd" i use this "sudo u mount /dev/sda5" and then  use "sudo mount /dev/sda5/  /home/user/hd
[13:15] <Janine> compdoc,  thanks!
[13:15] <compdoc> Janine, looks like its a lot of work - good luck
[13:15] <wols> mohsin^:  if it's the trackpoint: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Sensitivity_.26_Speed
[13:16] <chenthu> krazykrivda: but are u sure /dev/sda5 is the right drive?....did u check it using :fdisk -l"?
[13:16] <krazykrivda> yes
[13:16] <bernhard1> After installing Ubuntu 11.4 server i get errors when booting.
[13:16] <bernhard1> I have this issue on several disks (new and old one).
[13:16] <bernhard1> It gives errors on the filesystem /boot .
[13:16] <bernhard1> rdev/sda1
[13:16] <bernhard1> mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1
[13:16] <FloodBot1> bernhard1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <bernhard1> then: cannot write bytes: broke pipe (many times)
[13:16] <bernhard1> then it boots to prompt and i can login:
[13:16] <krazykrivda> chenthu: as i said.. it does mount the files and I can see them.. just can't edit
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:17] <acidrain> i have uploaded 2047.9GB since my format in 2009 of ubuntu
[13:17] <chenthu> krazykrivda:  ok but did u try what i said ...may be that could solve ur file...cause some times manually mounting solves... i think i got a problem with this once....may be...
[13:17] <krazykrivda> chenthu: I'm trying to.. btu now having issue with umount
[13:18] <chenthu> krazykrivda: can u paste the output?
[13:18] <synapse> solz: I blacklisted nouveau and nvidiafb and they are still showing up in lspci
[13:19] <wols> synapse: did you recreate your initramfs too?
[13:19] <wols> synapse: and modprobe -r  them?
[13:19] <synapse> I have no idea how to do that
[13:19] <krazykrivda> chenthu: umount: /mnt/FILES: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[13:20] <wols> krazykrivda: lsof |grep mnt/FILES
[13:20] <chenthu> krazykrivda: ^^
[13:20] <synapse> krazykrivda: perhaps you have a terminal open or are in the directory?
[13:20] <chenthu> krazykrivda: but i never know as much as wols
[13:21] <chenthu> wols: wat does this "lsof |grep mnt/FILES" do?
[13:21] <krazykrivda> chenthu: wols.. i have EVEYRTHING closed
[13:22] <synapse> wols: I removed them with modprobe, I don't know how to recreate the initramfs
[13:22] <krazykrivda> wols: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /root/.gvfs       Output information may be incomplete.
[13:22] <bernhard1> Any idears ? After installing Ubuntu 11.4 server i get errors when booting. I have this issue on several disks (new and old one). It gives errors on the filesystem /boot . rdev/sda1 mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1 then: cannot write bytes: broke pipe (many times)then it boots to prompt and i can login: So i repair the hd with Knoppix cd. It says the /boot was unmounted not
[13:22] <bernhard1> not cleanly. then it repairs. When i repair sda1 with the knoppix cd with the command fsck /dev/sda1 it is fixed. So the server boots fine. But once the server is shutdown once it will startup again with these same message: mountall fsck /boot [344] terminated with status 1 cannot write bytes: broke pipe Any clue how i can fix this ????
[13:22] <krazykrivda> wols: Browse    15948    charlie  cwd       DIR        8,5    32768          1 /mnt/FILES script-wo 15949    charlie  cwd       DIR        8,5    32768          1 /mnt/FILES gksu      15959    charlie  cwd       DIR        8,5    32768          1 /mnt/FILES
[13:22] <synapse> wols: guess that is a length procedure :(
[13:22] <krazykrivda> sry should have pastebinned
[13:23] <chenthu> krazykrivda: better restart and try or better retsrat and enter into a terminal before logging in and the make a dir in the desktop then and then try " those commands i gave u"
[13:24] <chenthu> krazykrivda:  may be u are using terminal from that path .... try using cd / and then retry
[13:24] <wols> krazykrivda: the processes with PID 15948 and 15959 have files open on /mnt/FILES and prevent the unmounting
[13:24] <krazykrivda> going to reboot
[13:25] <chenthu> krazykrivda: no wait
[13:25] <chenthu> krazykrivda: did u listen to wols?.....
[13:25] <chenthu> krazykrivda: u could kill those process wols said and try again?
[13:26] <wols> synapse: how do you know these modules are loaded right now?
[13:28] <Guest74900> Hey guys, these days i was thinking about some interesting web startup. Do you have any ideas?
[13:29] <synapse> wols: lspci -k | grep nvidia
[13:30] <compdoc> Guest74900, one that makes a lot of money
[13:30] <Guest74900> I think it shound be about money but joy
[13:31] <Guest74900> shouldnt
[13:31] <sudokill> Guest74900, its up to you
[13:31] <wols> synapse: check lsmod instead
[13:31] <Guest74900> So, would you prefer money than self-satisfaction?
[13:31] <wols> Guest74900: do you have a ubuntu related support problem?
[13:32] <Guest74900> ok, i wont talk
[13:32] <chenthu> anyone been using aircrack-ng with a broadcm b43 ?
[13:32] <compdoc> www.TheJoyOfMirc.com
[13:32] <chenthu> on ubuntu
[13:33] <wols> !anyone | chenthu
[13:33] <chenthu> wols: ok
[13:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> wols, ;)
[13:33] <theadmin> compdoc: Do not spam.
[13:34] <compdoc> its not spam - its a name for Guest74900's new website
[13:35] <wols> compdoc: keep it on topic in here please
[13:35] <chenthu> compdoc: off topic is considered as spam
[13:35] <StevenR> chenthu: you can't really. IIRC, the hardware won't do the modes aircrack-ng wants (from memory)
[13:35] <chenthu> StevenR: IIRC?
[13:35] <StevenR> chenthu: I ended up buying a cheapo usb dongle for my wireless debug work
[13:36] <StevenR> chenthu: If I Remember/Recall Correctly
[13:36] <user__> i want to talk to administrator of this irc in private !
[13:37] <theadmin> user__: You don't do that.
[13:37] <chenthu> StevenR: but in the aircrack website they said broadcom b43 is completely supported in linux than on windows
[13:37] <theadmin> user__: You can join #ubuntu-ops
[13:37] <user__> k
[13:37] <chenthu> StevenR: pm?
[13:37] <StevenR> chenthu: no thanks. I could be wrong. It might be certain chips using that driver
[13:38] <bullgard4_> Natty reports: "System program problem detected." What package can I associate this bug to when reporting to Launchpad?
[13:38] <chenthu> StevenR: ok ...thank you
[13:38] <StevenR> chenthu: so while the driver supports it, your hardware might not (I was using a Dell Vostro 1220, if that helps)
[13:39] <chenthu> StevenR: but i checked for the hardware compatibility and it sai it supports
[13:39] <chenthu> StevenR: said*
[13:41] <Doonz> hey guys. I have a Hardware Raid Array that was 9tb. I expanded it to 12tb. How do I go about formatting the last 3TB into its own partition. This has to be done through the cli
[13:41] <StevenR> Doonz: are you usin LVM?
[13:42] <synapse> wols: generated a new xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, same problem :/
[13:42] <Doonz> no
[13:42] <user__> theadmin no one response there
[13:42] <hathanh> what?
[13:42] <StevenR> user__: well. Be patient.
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> user__, Sometimes it takes a few minutes to get a response.
[13:43] <StevenR> Doonz: and please don't cross post in future.
[13:44] <acidrain> !nowplaying
[13:44] <wols> synapse: what problem exactly?
[13:44] <synapse> wols: can you paste that nvidias/download link again, I lost it
[13:44] <wols> synapse: what download link? for what?
[13:44] <synapse> someone here posted a link for nvidia.com/downloads
[13:45] <wols> synapse: unsupported. and will break your ubuntu
[13:45] <wols> synapse: what videoard do you have?
[13:46] <synapse> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] (rev a2)
[13:46] <wols> synapse: that one is years old and no new driver will change anything for it
[13:46] <wols> synapse: use the ubuntu default driver(s) for it. either nouveau or nvidia
[13:47] <kjbeo> !!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!!        Tharlinn m0ijk bernhard1 Gujs Guest8383 Guest2056640 dju
[13:47] <kjbeo> !!-FREENODERS GONE WILD-!!   I checked the logs but I haven't found a description of it.
[13:51] <Machtin> so, is it spam to comment on people who comment on spam? :P
[13:51] <theadmin> user__: that k-dude was spam.
[13:51] <theadmin> Whatever, we've gone incredibly offtopic
[13:51] <wols> user__ theadmin BluesKaj Machtin: please leave and go to #ubuntu-offtopic. thank you
[13:51] <sgo11> hi, I am trying to save a flv file in google-chrome cache. The cahce file gets removed when the size exceeds 40M. how to resolve this issue? 1, where is the file moved to? I can see the video can still play smoothly in chrome. that means it must be cached somewhere. 2, how to increase the limit size? thanks.
[13:51] <NetworkRenderer> Hello is there an German channel for Ubuntu
[13:52] <NetworkRenderer> ?
[13:52] <user__> sorry wols
[13:52] <synapse> wols: nvidia rendering problems when I switch between virtual workspaces
[13:52] <wols> !de | NetworkRenderer
[13:52] <theadmin> NetworkRenderer: Ja, und es heisst #ubuntu-de
[13:52] <BluesKaj> wols, get a life !
[13:52] <NetworkRenderer> DAnke
[13:52] <Machtin> wols: I have no intention to join that channel, but I'll leave as you requested. Good day and enjoy spamming on spam-comments :)
[13:52] <wols> sgo11: where do you see this max 40MB file? what path?
[13:53] <sgo11> wols, ~/.cache/google-chrome/Default/Cache
[13:53] <wols> sgo11: the cache for your chrome instance is somewhere in your home directory. probably under .chrome or such
[13:53] <sgo11> wols, when the cache file exceeds 40M. it's removed.
[13:54] <user__> sgo11  you can download the file using easy youtube downloader ! its easy
[13:55] <sgo11> wols, I can find the cache file. my problem is chrome is trying to remove any cache file exceeds 40M. I am not sure if it gets removed or moved to somewhere else.
[13:55] <wols> sgo11: as user__ suggested, I think you should use a specialized tool to download the flv files
[13:55] <theadmin> sgo11: Run google-chrome with --disk-cache-size="5000000M"
[13:55] <theadmin> sgo11: Or whatever :D
[13:56] <dr_willis>  put the disk cache in your UbuntuOne Account dir!
[13:56] <sgo11> user__, the video is not from youtube.
[13:56] <dr_willis> :)
[13:57] <sgo11> theadmin, I have already tried it. it doesn't work.
[13:57] <user__> wols its a tool you can use in firefox opera , and google chrome
[13:57] <user__> which site ?
[13:58] <sgo11> user__, vimeo
[13:59] <Ulfalizer> how do i list the available versions of a particular package?
[14:00] <user__> sgo11 i have to leave from ubuntu channel now sorry ! please come to #ubuntu-offtopic k by e
[14:00] <theadmin> Ulfalizer: Repos normally contain only one available version. You can look at it with apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[14:01] <jify> Hi guys, i have a question, when i click on the terminal window button on my desktop it opens two terminal windows instead of one, is there something wrong with my os? or is this some simple bug?
[14:01] <Faderhval> mjellow #ubuntu, quick question does linux have a LAN protocol like samba native and only for linux clients?
[14:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> jify:  its unlikely its the OS.  sticky mouse maybe?
[14:01] <|Slacker|> nfs?
[14:01] <wols> Faderhval: all network filesystems work on a variety of OSes
[14:01] <EgyParadox> Faderval:nfs
[14:01] <EgyParadox> Faderhval*
[14:02] <escott> jify, use "xev" to see if there are multiple clicks being sent
[14:02] <theadmin> Faderhval: sshfs
[14:02] <jify> TheEvilPhoenix: thats a relief, ill try and change the mouse
[14:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> jify:  it could just be the actual computer (not OS) interpreting a double click as a quad click...
[14:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> jify:  does anything happen when you click  *once* on said terminal button/link/launcher/
[14:03] <Ulfalizer> theadmin: ok, doesn't have the latest in that case
[14:04] <Faderhval> so if i want to do transfer files between two linux machines over LAN the best way would be nfs? sshfs?
[14:04] <jify> TheEvilPhoenix: no it just pops up two terminals everytime i click
[14:04] <theadmin> Ulfalizer: That's Ubuntu, it commonly doesn't have latest software.
[14:04] <wols> Faderhval: samba
[14:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> jify:  so you didn't answer my question.  WHen you click ***only once***, does anything happen?  Simple yes/no.
[14:05] <jify> TheEvilPhoenix: no nothing happens
[14:05] <Faderhval> i have samba configured but isn't that for windows shares? i was wondering if there were something like that but for linux
[14:05] <rigved> Faderhval: my suggestion would be sshfs, because it's secure and very easy to setup...can be integrated into the file browser using bookmarks also
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Faderhval, ssh works well, if you want an automount ni fstab , then install sshfs
[14:06] <Faderhval> sshfs seems to be the answer, does it work with mget and get and so on im guessing?
[14:07] <Ulfalizer> theadmin: any common places where you might find packages for later versions? manually installing programs overwriting files tracked by the package manager might be a bad idea, right?
[14:07] <wols> Faderhval: it's not the answer
[14:08] <escott> Ulfalizer, if you want a newer upstream version there might be a ppa, but usually there isnt
[14:08] <theadmin> !checkinstall | Ulfalizer
[14:09] <Myrtti> Faderhval: if you don't mind living with the latency the encryption brings in, then sshfs is ok-ish. If you are certain that the machine sharing files will stay in the LAN and doesn't need that much security or encryption, then choose NFS. There is quite a speed difference.
[14:09] <rypervenche> Ulfalizer: If you're really worried about version number, you might want to try a different distribution.
[14:09] <theadmin> Ulfalizer: Indeed, Arch is awesome for all-latest things.
[14:09] <Faderhval> wols, I am aware of samba and I am currently using it for LAN shares. And it works well but it anoys me that it is basicly designed for windows shares i was looking for something native to linux
[14:09] <wols> Faderhval: it wasn't designed for windows
[14:10] <Ulfalizer> is check-install safe even for overwriting files from "normal" packages?
[14:10] <wols> Faderhval: and at this point in time, NFS is a lot worse supported all over than samba/cifs
[14:10] <theadmin> Ulfalizer: Totally. Just make sure they have the same name
[14:10] <Ulfalizer> ok, thanks
[14:10] <theadmin> Ulfalizer: That way it'd count as an upgrade
[14:11] <Ulfalizer> why doesn't ubuntu provide "unstable" versions of packages corresponding to bleeding-edge stuff in the main repositories?
[14:11] <Faderhval> wols is it wrong that samba was developed for linux so that win and linux could do networking?
[14:11] <raluxgaza> Hi guys my mic isn't working on 11.04, I am using an aspire 4810T, help pls. I have looked around can't find anything to fix this in 11.04
[14:11] <escott> raluxgaza, have you turned up the mic boost in alsamixer
[14:12] <wols> Faderhval: dunno if it was developed only for winodws interoperability, but I do know that smb/cifs (the network protocol) was not developed and designed for Windows
[14:12] <Ulfalizer> Faderhval: they can still do networking. it's just for some specific protocols (e.g. smb).
[14:12] <raluxgaza> escott, yes i have, nothing still :(
[14:12] <fritzophrenic> ugh, I just read that Ubuntu Oneiric will not supply GNOME desktop as an alternative to Unity...have they fixed all the broken stuff in compiz and in Unity in general related to Unity? I liked it but had to constantly restart X when it was enabled
[14:13] <escott> raluxgaza, do you know if this is intel hda sound? lsmod | grep snd_hda_?
[14:13] <escott> fritzophrenic, where are you reading that? gnome is definitely in oneiric
[14:14] <rypervenche> Ulfalizer: Because Ubuntu is based on Debian, which is a very stable release.
[14:14] <theadmin> rypervenche: Ubuntu is based on Debian Testing, which is not so "stable" as you think
[14:14] <Ulfalizer> rypervenche: could still provide the option though
[14:14] <jify> TheEvilPhoenix:i will try and change the mouse, and see what happens
[14:14] <Faderhval> I'm a bit confused tbh :) but sshfs for secure transfer a littly laggy thou, NFS for faster but insecure transfer and then smbd... right will go do somereading on the various topics thanks for the answers
[14:14] <Ulfalizer> i.e., default to old, tested versions
[14:14] <wols> Ulfalizer: they do
[14:14] <raluxgaza> escott, yes its intel
[14:14] <astraljava> fritzophrenic: GNOME2 will be removed from oneiric, but GNOME3 is definitely the desktop.
[14:14] <bregma> fritzophrenic, I have Oneiric installed an Gnome is one of the alternative desktops
[14:14] <Ulfalizer> wols: in some centralized location? or is it up to third parties to provide packages for later versions?
[14:15] <acicula> escott: astraljava: think  he means the gnome-classic fallback option wont be there
[14:15] <escott> raluxgaza, have you looked at this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[14:15] <rypervenche> theadmin: I am aware. I use Debian Testing as my main distro.
[14:15] <wols> Ulfalizer: the oneiric repos are just that: unstable software but newer than what is in natty
[14:15] <astraljava> acicula: Yes, hence I mentioned GNOME2.
[14:15] <theadmin> rypervenche: Ah, nice I guess
[14:15] <Ulfalizer> wols: ok
[14:15] <raluxgaza> escott, I am looking into it, thanks for your help
[14:17] <acicula> astraljava: ah like so, metacity is not part of gnome3, so its not so much gnome-classic being dropped as it is gnome 2 not being packaged?
[14:17] <acicula> for ubuntu 11.10
[14:17] <fritzophrenic> astraljava, hmm ok...I'm not sure what that means for me...it sounds like if I need to not have Unity, I can disable it. I suppose I won't put off the upgrade too long when it comes around then.
[14:19] <pk__> when i install mingw32 i get i586-mingw32msvc-gcc   version 4.2
[14:19] <pk__> but i need at least 4.3
[14:19] <pk__> how can i get it?
[14:19] <astraljava> acicula: Upstream moved on, so no point in including it anymore.
[14:19] <acicula> astraljava: that seems sensible yeah
[14:20] <fs> I have 2 different applications that watch files. I was wondering if it possible to run these two application in one shell window?
[14:20] <acicula> pk__: if its not in the repo you will have to find someone who packages it in his/hers ppa, or perhaps directly from the ming project page?
[14:20] <acicula> pk__: or failing that build it yourself
[14:20] <escott> fs, byobu or screen
[14:20] <rypervenche> fs: Yep, if you use "screen".
[14:20] <ikonia> fs: you could background them with &
[14:21] <fs> thanks guys, appreciate it :)
[14:21] <sodaorat> Hi
[14:21] <sodaorat> I've got a copy problem on a external hard disk
[14:21] <sodaorat> NTFS btw
[14:22] <sodaorat> When I copy a big file, it stucks at about 60 Mo
[14:22] <sodaorat> and I don't know which tool to use under Ubuntu
[14:22] <rypervenche> sodaorat: How big is the file?
[14:22] <sodaorat> to check the disk for example
[14:22] <sodaorat> mmm
[14:22] <sodaorat> 350 Mo
[14:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> sodaorat, please try to keep them all in some 2 lines. do not post each sentence in a new line
[14:23] <sodaorat> ok sorry
[14:24] <acicula> Mo?
[14:24] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, if you use cp -v it will be verbose and possibily show you errors. also are you sure that ther is enough space?
[14:24] <sodaorat> Mb
[14:24] <sodaorat> yes
[14:24] <ubuntu_> hey
[14:24] <ubuntu_> does somebody have any experience isntalling ubuntu on GPT disk non uefi
[14:24] <sodaorat> I copied with Nautilus, I'll try again with the terminal and use cp -v, thanks
[14:25] <ubuntu_> nobody :(?
[14:25] <dr_willis> sodaorat,   You may want to try 'mc' also. its a text based file manager. Ive seen bugs where copying to USB flash gets slower and slower and slooooowerr....   when doing big files.. but lots of little files work. So you may want to monitor the mb/s speeds.
[14:26] <sodaorat> ok. cp -v is stuck,
[14:26] <sodaorat> I'll try mc
[14:26] <sw0rdfish> what does concatenate mean?
[14:27] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, you can also use the command dmesg to see if any system error messages came
[14:27] <escott> ubuntu_, gpt yes, efi no
[14:27] <theadmin> sw0rdfish: combine
[14:27] <ubuntu_> escott
[14:27] <sodaorat> btw, the copy is stuck, and with Ctrl-Z, Ctrl C, Ctrl Q it doesn't stop
[14:27] <ubuntu_> i meant with no efi
[14:27] <sw0rdfish> oh I see thanks.
[14:27] <dr_willis> sw0rdfish,  to join together.
[14:27] <ubuntu_> you also have gpt with efi, which makes it way easier to install
[14:27] <ubuntu_> but i am on normal bios
[14:27] <theadmin> dr_willis: "join together" makes as much sense as "eat food" xD
[14:27] <acicula> sodaorat: between what kind of devices are you copying?
[14:27] <ubuntu_> I can;t seem to install ubuntu on my gpt drive
[14:28] <ubuntu_> well i cant boot after install..
[14:28] <ubuntu_> only boot from my standard windows 7
[14:28] <sodaorat> message in dmesg: usb 2-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[14:28] <sodaorat> I'm copying from my local hd (ext4) to a external hd device (NTFS)
[14:28] <escott> ubuntu_, there is nothing special about it really. with the gpt+bios you still need to have an mbr. but its a good practice to create a gpt partition and a grub_bios partition
[14:29] <ubuntu_> so i need to make a grub bios partititon
[14:29] <ubuntu_> how big?
[14:29] <ubuntu_> 2mb enough?
[14:29] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, just to test it: copy it to the same hard disc... just to see if that works
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> !enter | ubuntu_
[14:29] <ubuntu_> sure.
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[14:29] <acicula> ubuntu_: id make it no smaller then 100mb for /boot, kernels + initrds also take up space
[14:29] <ubuntu_> Do you know how to put unallocated space to unallocated spade?
[14:30] <sodaorat> Benkonooby: it works
[14:30] <ubuntu_> as i have leftover 2.25mb
[14:30] <coz_> acicula,  did you read this    http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/booting.html
[14:30] <escott> ubuntu_, don't remember how big offhand, but it can be small. i would recommend reading http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html
[14:30] <Floclo> hey excuse me for butting in...
[14:30] <Floclo> does anybody have a macbook running ubuntu
[14:30] <coz_> acicula,  scroll down to  "Booting with EFI"
[14:30] <Floclo> ?
[14:30] <tiger_> hi
[14:31] <escott> ubuntu_, the main page is actually http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/index.html
[14:31] <coz_> Floclo,  I know several people who come here do , I do not personally
[14:31] <ubuntu_> ok now i am confused?
[14:31] <Floclo> coz_ ok they are not available currently?
[14:31] <acicula> coz_: no i havent, what am i looking for?
[14:31] <tiger_> yes
[14:32] <coz_> acicula,   scroll down a bit to  "Installing to  efi" you will see this    Ubuntu 11.04 has an extremely serious bug that causes it to erase any existing ESP, thus wiping out any existing boot loaders or other files installed there. Be sure to back up your ESP before you install Ubuntu to a (U)EFI system!
[14:32] <Floclo> coz do they come here often?
[14:32] <ubuntu_> i dont have efi?
[14:32] <ubuntu_> >_>
[14:32] <coz_> Floclo,   they do  but I dont  have their names off hand
[14:32] <s3r3n1t7> If memory serves me well, there was this bootable CD, that could fix any form of bootloader, including of windows and linux .... yet i forgot its name ...
[14:32] <Floclo> coz no problem thanks for the info
[14:33] <sodaorat> I can't manage to kill the process of copying! (the cp -v) with kill 2724 and after kill -9 2724
[14:33] <escott> acicula, ubuntu_ the grub_bios partition is actually a smaller partition for the stage1 part of grub2 it is not for /boot
[14:33] <Floclo> will have to come here regularly to catch them :-D
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> Floclo, Have you asked/searched: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[14:33] <coz_> Floclo,  absolutely,, dont give up on that,,,
[14:33] <coz_> !mac
[14:34] <ubuntu_> i remember deleting bios_grub as i had no idea wtf it was
[14:34] <Floclo> ubottu thanks I will re-read it
[14:34] <ubuntu_> it was an leftover of my ubuntu installation that failed
[14:34] <Floclo> lol
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> s3r3n1t7, Was it "supergrub?"
[14:34] <acicula> escott: ah i see, then you wont need space for kernels indeed. think the grub stages are supposed to fit on 1.4M disks still, says 1.5Mb in use here
[14:34] <s3r3n1t7> Sidewinder1, yes! thank you!
[14:34] <Floclo> im real new to this
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> NP
[14:35] <escott> ubuntu_, in gpt there isn't guaranteed to be the same space between the end of the mbr and the beginning of the partition table, so you have to have a partition for that section of the bootloader if you are relying on an mbr and not efi boot
[14:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> !mac | Floclo
[14:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> Floclo, I am sute that you can find a plenty of help there
[14:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> sure*
[14:35] <Floclo> awesome guys i am running ubuntu now its just the isight camera
[14:35] <coz_> Floclo,  ok cool,,  just dont get frustrated,, there are exeptionally birght  people that give their time freely here,, a lot depends on timezones,,families,,school. etc for them to  be online
[14:35] <Floclo> cant get it working :(
[14:35] <ubuntu_> so i need to make a .boot partition?
[14:35] <jrib> !mac | Floclo
[14:36] <jrib> oops
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> IAmNotThatGuy, Thanx, I completely forgot about that factoid; don't use a MAC.
[14:36] <Floclo> coz i know this is the best community even in the short time ive been here
[14:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sidewinder1, ?_?
[14:36] <escott> ubuntu_, whether or not you have a boot partition is up to you, but you should have a grub_bios partition
[14:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> Floclo, http://handyfloss.net/2008.07/making-isight-camera-work-in-ubuntu/
[14:36] <jrib> Floclo: my camera works fine on my macbook, but you need to extract the firmware :/  The directions are on the wiki
[14:36] <Floclo> woah awesome heading there now
[14:36] <ubuntu_> ok
[14:37] <ubuntu_> how big does it need to be
[14:37] <Floclo> thanks guys really great help
[14:37] <sodaorat> I have now 2 tabs stucks: one with the cp, one with the mc!
[14:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> np Floclo =]
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> IAmNotThatGuy, Your reference to the "mac" factoid for Floclo .
[14:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> soda pkill is not working?
[14:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sidewinder1, can you explain why not to do that?
[14:38] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, are you on command line only?
[14:38] <sodaorat> non
[14:38] <escott> ubuntu_, it is not a mountpoint but a flag on the partition. i don't know exactly how big it can be, but it can be fairly small. grub will just put part the part of the bootloader that it would have placed between the mbr and bios partition table that it can't safely do with gpt. probably less than a meg total
[14:38] <sodaorat> I've a terminal with 3 tabs on Ubuntu 11.04
[14:38] <Floclo> hey I am also having trouble getting chrome to set as default
[14:38] <Floclo> firefox seems to rule with an iron fist!
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> IAmNotThatGuy, No, no, I just forgot about that factoid and was thanking you for refreshing this old memory. :-)
[14:38] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah!
[14:39] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: I managed to kill mc, but the process cp -v is still stuck
[14:39] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sidewinder1, FYI http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, killall cp
[14:39] <sodaorat> thx
[14:39] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, that will kill all cp processes
[14:39] <Floclo> is the default browser issue 11.04 only?
[14:39] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, worked?
[14:39] <sodaorat> nope
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> IAmNotThatGuy, I guess I shoulda' said "I" don't use a mac, sorry for the confusion.
[14:40] <Benkinooby> ok, try it as sudo
[14:40] <IAmNotThatGuy> No issues Sidewinder1 use the link to find all factoids
[14:40] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: waw still here
[14:41] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, did you try to copy that file on the same hard disc?
[14:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> Floclo, gimme a min to find the solution
[14:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> Benkinooby, sodaorat told that it worked perfectly
[14:41] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, it would be good to find out if the problem is the hard disc you wnat to copy to, or the file you want to copy
[14:41] <Benkinooby> IAmNotThatGuy, sodaorat oh, ok missed that, sry
[14:41] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: yes. The USB drive is thinking a lot (the light flashes)
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> IAmNotThatGuy, Yes, I'm more than familiar with that link; as a matter of fact, I keep a dialog window open with ubottu, just to double check before I "sick" the bot on someone. :-)
[14:42] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, maybe ist's jsut dam slow?
[14:42] <coz_> sodaorat,  how large is the flash drive?
[14:42] <IAmNotThatGuy> Sidewinder1, lol
[14:42] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, you could also try to us nautilus,... it should show you a progress bar..
[14:42] <ubuntu_> how can you set a flagpartition
[14:42] <ubuntu_> well how can you flag it?
[14:42] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: It's not a flash drive, it's a external hard disk (500 GB), with 300 GB available
[14:42] <ubuntu_> as it is 1mb big, you cnat make a partition of it
[14:43] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, partition flag you mean? i know that you can set the "bootable flag" with fdisk... gparted can do it too, i think
[14:43] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: Yes with Nautilus, the progress bar is stuck at about 60 Mo/360 Mo
[14:43] <raluxgaza> still can't get my mic to work, this is painful
[14:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> ubuntu_, Gparted?
[14:43] <ubuntu_> im on gparted
[14:43] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, Mb you mean
[14:43] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: Yes, Mb sorry, french habit ;)
[14:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, which version of mic ?
[14:43] <escott> ubuntu_, please keep your responses on one line and include my name in your response. it should appear as a flag or partition type in gdisk or parted. i dont remember exactly where
[14:43] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, but if the hard disk is still blinking, maybe it's till coyping...
[14:43] <raluxgaza> hda-intel
[14:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> err H/w raluxgaza*
[14:44] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, the intel one
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu_, Not to but in, but are you sure that the partition is NTFS and not fat32?
[14:44] <ubuntu_> i am keeping it on one line?
[14:44] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, OS?
[14:44] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: But with Nautilus, the progress bar was stuck, I let it wait for about 15 minutes, no progress.
[14:44] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, 11.04
[14:44] <ubuntu_> the partition is unallocated
[14:44] <ksx4system> how do I set which NTP (network time) server clock in ubuntu uses?
[14:44] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: and it's weird that we can't kill the cp process isn't it?
[14:44] <ksx4system> is it something related with NTP daemon? I'm using 11.04
[14:44] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, aspire 4810t
[14:44] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, that's true... even as sudo...
[14:45] <zykotick9> ksx4system, "cat /etc/ntp.conf" should show you
[14:45] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: But if I unplug the hard disk, it will be ok
[14:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, have you visited https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes before?
[14:45] <coz_> sodaorat,  what I have noticed on  11.04   with a 6 gig flash drive,, is that the system seems to cache the files to be copied first,, slowly,, while the flash drive just sits there ,,these were large files some being well over 2 gigs however
[14:45] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, try to copy a different file from your hdd to the ntfs ... mybe not that big... just to see if that works
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> ksx4system, Perhaps it has something to do with "tzdata?"
[14:45] <escott> ubuntu_, in parted it is set # grub_bios on. in gparted it should be in a dropdown where you have things like swap/boot/etc
[14:45] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, what will be ok?
[14:45] <ubuntu_> mann
[14:46] <ubuntu_> can't i just install ubuntu normally?
[14:46] <sodaorat> Benkinooby: I managed to copy little files (15 Mo). If I unplug the disk, the cp process will stop.
[14:46] <ksx4system> zykotick9: thanks. it'll be piece of cake to tweak it now :)
[14:46] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, hm, ok
[14:46] <coz_> ubuntu_,  sorry didnt see your whole post,,  are you dual botting?
[14:46] <ubuntu_> triple booting
[14:46] <escott> ubuntu_, gpt+bios is not a normal config, thats part of the problem
[14:46] <ubuntu_> if i want linux
[14:46] <sodaorat> coz_: yes my pb is only with 300 Mb hehe
[14:47] <coz_> ubuntu_,  ooo ok.. which other systems do you have so far?
[14:47] <ubuntu_> win7/win7
[14:47] <ubuntu_> but if i install ubuntu it wont show up..
[14:47] <ksx4system> zykotick9: but... what if i don't have ntp.conf file? should I create new one (or just copy from one of my Debian boxes)?
[14:47] <coz_> ubuntu_,  2  windows7 installs?
[14:47] <ubuntu_> yes
[14:47] <noelia> hello everyone
[14:47] <ubuntu_> hi
[14:47] <ksx4system> clock says it syncs via internet but i need to force using my own NTP server @ LAN
[14:48] <zykotick9> ksx4system, no, that means it's being dealt with through some other means.  Sorry I don't know, best of luck.
[14:48] <noelia> Would you please help me out with an issue that is driving me mad?
[14:48] <sodaorat> Benkinooby, coz_: that's why I think that there is a problem with the hard disk, and I wanted to check if there are any tools to check the disk health. Do you know some?
[14:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask | noelia
[14:48] <ubuntu_> @coz yes i have 2 windows install
[14:48] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, yes I have, no luck :(
[14:48] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, i don't know if there are progs to chekc the ntfgs-health in ubuntu
[14:48] <coz_> sodaorat,    https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/disk-check.html
[14:49] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, I am finding a bug in that. Not sure whether it is yours
[14:49] <noelia> The thing is I recently installed mySQL, and I can't initiate its daemon because it returns: Warning: Fake initctl: Doing nothing
[14:49] <escott> ubuntu_, the basics of grub+mbr+gpt is relatively simple. grub installs itself to the mbr, and to the grub_bios partition and to the /boot partition. mbr executes the data in your grub_bios partition which then hands off to the /boot partition at which point you can boot linux/chainload windows etc. but you need the grub_bios partition
[14:49] <sodaorat> thx
[14:49] <noelia> I have tried reinstalling mysql-server but it didn't work
[14:50] <ubuntu_> So if i install ubuntu
[14:50] <noelia> I also installed the updates
[14:50] <noelia> Many things I've tried
[14:50] <noelia> I don't know what else to do
[14:50] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, no i haven't posted
[14:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, No. I am telling whether it is for your version
[14:51] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, oh :)
[14:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> Bug #818553
[14:51] <Benkinooby> coz_, sodaorat i think if disk health was not ok, dmesg would have shown something
[14:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, ^
[14:51] <sakthi> hi
[14:51] <sakthi> newbie here
[14:51] <noelia> Before this happened, I couldn't log in to mySQL, because it didn't let me enter with my user name or password
[14:51] <sakthi> i mean newbie to ubuntu
[14:51] <coz_> sodaorat,   how large is the hard drive?
[14:51] <noelia> What else should I do?
[14:51] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, thanks for you help looking into now
[14:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> sakthi, welcome and shoot your query
[14:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> raluxgaza, Hope it will get solved soon
[14:52] <escott> sodaorat, do you mean smart status? smartmon-tools
[14:52] <ubuntu_> And select customize it, what do i need to do?
[14:52] <ubuntu_> well its called something else
[14:52] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, mabye try the command "rsync -av --progress" i aksed for it in #debian ... it has a different syntax though
[14:52] <raluxgaza> IAmNotThatGuy, yea, hope so too, thanks again
[14:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> noelia, have you followed the forums links? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10298433 ?
[14:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> sakthi, there?
[14:53] <ubuntu_> anybody? If i select something else what do i need to do?
[14:53] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, rsync -av --progress /your/sourcefile /your/destination
[14:53] <sakthi> i am configuring svnmanager tool which manages svn, while doing it is trying to send a mail, i think i have to configure senmail.. like to know how to congfigure sendmail
[14:53] <bullgard4_> I installed Natty on 2 free partitions using the 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 amd64-CD '. I cannot login because the keyboard settings are wrong (probably a wrong keyboard model). Natty does not accept any keyboard combinations with AltGr. Pressing the  Y key interprets Natty as Z. How to fix that? I can access the Recovery menu though.
 I unplug first the USB disk and replug it
[14:54] <sakthi> IAmNotThatGuy yea, very much here :)
[14:54] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, ok
[14:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> sakthi, ;)
[14:54] <wols> bullgard4_: boot to a console without any X and check if your keyboard is set up correctly there
[14:54] <noelia> IAMNoththatguy Yes, I already read that page, but... Does Samba really have anything to do with initctl or mySQL?
[14:55] <ubuntu_> Can anybody explain me why if i normal install Ubuntu it wont work?
[14:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> sakthi, can you please visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1031171 ?
[14:55] <ubuntu_> I'm pretty sick of trying to install ubuntu for 8 hours straight..
[14:55] <bullgard4_> wols: I am just now booted in a console without X. What I wrote, I have alreday checked in the console. How to fix these errors?
[14:55] <Bilange> is there any piece of software that gives me a web based routing configuration on ubuntu? (a bit like pfSense does, basically) I just need wan firewall and port forwards, nothing fancy actually.
[14:55] <sakthi> i googled on sendmail configuration.. not success in getting answer
[14:56] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, ok, what did you try until now and what error messages or faults did you got?
[14:56] <sakthi> IAmNotThatGuy.. will check that site
[14:56] <ArchangelSe7en> ubuntu_, define "wont work" , more details would help a lot.
[14:56] <wols>  bullgard4_: boot to a console without any X and check if your keyboard is set up correctly there
[14:56] <ubuntu_> no boot option
[14:56] <ubuntu_> i have never got any error
[14:56] <disse> hey guys, can i encrypt my home dir with an other pass than my own user pass? The other pass should be looooong but my user pass shouldn't be so long
[14:56] <disse> and how can i do that
[14:56] <ArchangelSe7en> that sounds rather obscure
[14:57] <ubuntu_> first 4 hours was figuring out why it was infinitely stuck at preparing install
[14:57] <disse> why? encrypting full with my ssd is not working
[14:57] <disse> so only the home dir
[14:57] <disse> but i want to be real safe
[14:57] <disse> so looong pass
[14:57] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, do you use a CD, pen drive, what version of ubuntu?
[14:57] <bullgard4_> wols: Are you able to react on what I have written to you? Please do not do plain repeating of a previous message.
[14:57] <disse> but on every sudo the long pass is shit
[14:57] <ubuntu_> pen drive,
[14:57] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu_, Did you md5sum the ISO prior to burning/copying to USB?
[14:58] <ubuntu_> i didnt as i couldnt fine the option..
[14:58] <ubuntu_> find*,
[14:58] <ArchangelSe7en> use an md5sum checker
[14:58] <noelia> Iamnotthatguy Does Samba have anything to do with mySQL or Initctl? I just need to know that, please.
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu_, Maybe, then, your ISO has an error?
[14:58] <wols> bullgard4_: if you cannot follow simple instructions *shrug*
[14:58] <ubuntu_> live is working..
[14:58] <ubuntu_> it is what i am on now
[14:59] <bullgard4_> wols: Your message is not helpful.
[14:59] <wols> noelia: not by default
[14:59] <ubuntu_> but do know i am trying to make a gpt drive bootable with Ubuntu
[14:59] <wols> bullgard4_: remember: you want help from us. I am (or probably was) willing to help. if you can get help elsewhere: fine by me.
[14:59] <noelia> wols How could I solve the problem?
[14:59] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, gpt?
[14:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> noelia, I'm sorry I posted the wrong link and closed the actual one :[
[15:00] <ubuntu_> yeah GPT drive
[15:00] <noelia> iamnotthatguy Thank you very much anyway
[15:00] <noelia> :)
[15:00] <dr_willis> !gpt
[15:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> (:
[15:00] <bullgard4_> wols: Very well yelled.
[15:00] <sakthi> IAmNotThatGuy, will there be a problem if sendmail is also running with postfix ?
[15:01] <IAmNotThatGuy> sakthi, I dont think so
[15:01]  * wols relaxes, grabs the popcorn, watches bullgard4_ and giggles
[15:01] <ikonia> sakthi: it won't run
[15:01] <ikonia> sakthi: you can only run one MTA at one time
[15:01] <Sidewinder1> bullgard4, Please don't mind him; he definitely got up on the wrong side of the bed this am. :-)
[15:01] <ArchangelSe7en> brb
[15:01] <SantiG> hey guys, is there a way to uninstall ubuntu from my computer? I have my disk partitioned with windows and ubuntu, and i was wondering if i could delete ubuntu without having to format the whole disk
[15:01] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, hm, i have no experience with gpt drives... did anyone else have problems with that?
[15:01]  * IAmNotThatGuy hugs wols
[15:02] <ubuntu_> i guess everybody ?
[15:02] <dr_willis> SantiG,  reinstall the windows bootloader via windows. use windows tools or a live cd to delett linux partitions..
[15:02] <ubuntu_> who wanted to boot with gpt
[15:02] <dr_willis> SantiG,  then resize/remake windows partitions as needed
[15:02]  * Sidewinder1 Slides him a cup-o-coffee. :-)
[15:02] <wols> SantiG: no there is not. you cannot "uninstall" an OS, you can only overwrite it. restore your bootloader to boot windows only with a windows cd and then reformat or delete or whatever you ubuntu partition
 It's stuck
[15:02] <sodaorat> 43057152  11%   20.47MB/s    0:00:15
[15:03] <dr_willis> SantiG,  unless you did a 'Wubi' install Inside windows.. in which case. theres a Ubuntu entry in the add/remove programs listing.
[15:03] <ikonia> bullgard4_: why do you need the alt+gr key to login ?
[15:03] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, no error message i guess
[15:03] <wols> Benkinooby: tons of propblems unfortunately
[15:03] <compdoc`> SantiG, yes, you can
[15:03] <SantiG> compdoc, how can i do it?
[15:03] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, http://www.wensley.org.uk/gpt might help you.. i can't i never had to do with gpt
[15:03] <SantiG> dr_willis i did the wubi install
[15:03] <bullgard4_> ikonia: In order to key in a letter '@'.
[15:03] <compdoc`> SantiG, does it boot grub?
[15:03] <dr_willis> SantiG,  then you do NOT havce Ubuntu partitions like you stated.. Its in the add/remove program area.
[15:04] <ikonia> bullgard4_: is that part of your username/password ?
[15:04] <SantiG> dr_willis, i'll check if i have it in the add/remove
[15:04] <bullgard4_> ikonia: Yes.
[15:04] <ubuntu_> i read it but i dont understand a shiz
[15:04] <SantiG> compdoc, sorry i do not know much about this, whats grub?
[15:04] <julie101010> how do I add the battery charge indicator in the menu bar on 11.04?
[15:04] <Benkinooby> wols, you are refering to gpt ?
[15:04] <ikonia> bullgard4_: for the purpose of resolving the problem, change the username/password to not contain @ so you can login and debug/progress the issue
[15:04] <wols> Benkinooby: yes
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> SantiG, Even if it's not in add/remove, since it's a WUBI install, simply delete the files.
[15:04] <compdoc`> SantiG, when it boots, do you get a menu with a choice between ubuntu and windows?
[15:04] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, is there any other important info on your hard disk?
[15:05] <ubuntu_> sure is
[15:05] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, or can you toy around with it?
[15:05] <SantiG> compdoc, yes i do
 no error message
[15:05] <ubuntu_> 1,3tb of important stuff
[15:05] <ubuntu_> raided
[15:05] <SantiG> Sidewinder1, and where are supossed to be those files?
[15:05] <ubuntu_> Im only playing with one partition as i dont want to touch all my important stuff
 I'll try to kill the process
[15:05] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, ok
 waw there are 3 process rsync
[15:06] <Sidewinder1> SantiG, Not sure what directory, \ubuntu, perhaps? I would not touch WUBI, so I'm not that familiar with it, other than the basics.
[15:06] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, what i want to say, is if you play around with grub, wich will modify your partition table, you are running a certain risk to lose all your data
[15:06] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, :(
[15:06] <dr_willis> SantiG,  one of the features of wubi is that you can Uninstall it via the add/remove programs stuff and it should undo all that.
[15:06] <bullgard4_> ikonia: How can I change the username/password combination on the root console? By using an 'adduser' command?
[15:07] <ubuntu_> yeah i am stopping
[15:07] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, so, sorry, gpt and raid is way above my level
[15:07] <dr_willis> SantiG,  removeing it any other way.. and you may miss somthing
 killall rsync worked this time
[15:07] <ikonia> bullgard4_: the command "passwd $username"
[15:07] <ubuntu_> lol okay
[15:07] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, at least something :P
[15:07] <ikonia> bullgard4_: that will change the password,
[15:07] <ubuntu_> DAMM UBUNTU WORK :(
 oups there is one process left
[15:07] <SantiG> dr_willis, i checked the add/remove programs and its not there :S
[15:07] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, the only thing you can try is to ask nicely at debian
[15:07] <bullgard4_> ikonia: I will give it a try.
[15:07] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, your problem is not really ubuntu only
[15:07] <ubuntu_> and then what ?
[15:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> ikonia, that should be done through the recovery moed and running as root right?
[15:07] <ubuntu_> i know
[15:08] <sakthi> IAmNotThatGuy shall i give the smtp server address where i have got mail ids from the webhosting company
[15:08] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, maybe one of them has experience with gpt and raids...
[15:08] <ikonia> IAmNotThatGuy: that's what he's doing
[15:08] <ubuntu_> i cant install any boot operating system on GPt without trouble
[15:08] <IAmNotThatGuy> ikonia, okies =]
[15:08] <ubuntu_> lol
[15:08] <ubuntu_> benkinooby
[15:08] <ubuntu_> i am banned from debian
[15:08] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, cuz of your nick maybe?
[15:08] <ubuntu_> lol
[15:08] <ubuntu_> maybe
[15:09] <SantiG> talking to my brother he says he actually doesnt remember wether he installed it by wubi or cd :/
[15:09] <Benkinooby> they are not too happy about ubuntu folk in their channels :(
[15:09] <ubuntu_> lol
[15:09] <SantiG> he was the one who installed ubuntu
[15:09] <ikonia> bullgard4_: they are fine with ubuntu people - please don't suggest that
[15:09] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu_, If you didn't md5sum the ISO, all bets are off; it could be a bad download.
[15:09] <coz_> ubuntu_,  I did find this  , not sure if it will help    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1744799
[15:09] <ubuntu_> oh it detects it
[15:09] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, so, any news?
[15:09] <ubuntu_> thats not the problem i just cant get it to boot anything with it
[15:10] <coz_> !who
 I checked the SMART status with the utility drive, and it says it's ok
[15:10] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, so it is allready installed? just that you can not boot to it?
[15:10] <ubuntu_> yeah
[15:10] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, i expected that...
 but I had to unplug the HD to see the rsync really killed
[15:10] <ikonia> ubuntu_: what is the error when you try to boot it ?
[15:10] <ubuntu_> no option to boot
[15:10] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, can you boot windows? - think you have a dual install, don't you?
[15:11] <ubuntu_> yeah
[15:11] <ubuntu_> i can boot
[15:11] <ikonia> ubuntu_: and what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:11] <ubuntu_> 11.04?
 So I think the disk has a problem... maybe because of NTFS
[15:11] <ikonia> ubuntu_: so what is the error when you try to boot
[15:11] <ubuntu_> I cant boot
[15:11] <DetectiveDongs> hi i'm a newb to linux servers: should my /var/www belong to root?  doesn't this make building my site difficult?
[15:11] <ubuntu_> there is no option except windows 7
[15:11] <ikonia> ubuntu_: yes, but what is the error/problem
[15:11] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs: set the permissions
[15:11] <ikonia> ubuntu_: then you did not have grub installed correctly
[15:11] <ubuntu_> Oh i can't boot after install
[15:11] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, if you want a really ugly work around... copy the file to a FAT pen  drive or so, aand then with windows form pen drive to ntfs....
[15:12] <ubuntu_> How do i isntall grub correctly?
[15:12] <escott> ikonia, ubuntu_ can't boot because he hasn't created a grub_bios partition as i instructed him 15 minutes ago
[15:12] <DetectiveDongs> what do you mean set the permissions ikonia
[15:12] <ikonia> escott: there we go then,
[15:12] <rocktop> how to know the total outgoing bandwidth per second from the eth0 ?
[15:12] <ubuntu_> I did have it
[15:12] <ubuntu_> and i couldnt boot
[15:12] <DetectiveDongs> to my current user: ie it shouldn't be set to root?
[15:12] <ubuntu_> i tried without couldnt boot either
[15:12] <ikonia> ubuntu_: you need to stop saying "couldn't boot" and exaplin the issue
[15:12] <ikonia> ubuntu_: that's like me saying "fix it" - you need info, in the same way we need info to help you
[15:12] <escott> ubuntu_, and have you installed grub after creating the grub_bios partition
[15:12] <ubuntu_> the issue is i can not select ubuntu
[15:12] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, so now you only can boot windows 7 or nothing comes at all?
[15:12] <ubuntu_> only windows 7
 I'm running a SMART test
[15:13] <ikonia> ubuntu_: please explain your partition layout
[15:13] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, and window7 boots sucessfully?
[15:13] <ubuntu_> ofc
[15:13] <wols> ubuntu_: you start your PC. after the BIOS screen what comes up on screen first?
[15:13] <ubuntu_> raid array
[15:13] <bastidrazor> DetectiveDongs: i have /var/www owned by my user and group by www-data
[15:13] <ikonia> ubuntu_: software raid ?
[15:13] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, i never had troubles with copying stuff to ntfs... your problem is quite weired...
[15:13] <DetectiveDongs> bastidrazor oh ok, i didn't know if there was a risk in changing the permissions on this dir :P
[15:13] <ubuntu_> its is i think? its motherboard raid
[15:14] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, in that case it's hardware
[15:14] <ikonia> ubuntu_: fakeraiud then - so there is problem number 1
[15:14] <Benkinooby> ubuntu_, in that case it's hardware raid
[15:14] <escott> ubuntu_, if you are using bios raid thats going to make things harder. if you are stripping thats going to make it extremely hard
[15:14] <ikonia> Benkinooby: no - it's not hardware raid
[15:14] <ubuntu_> lol
[15:14] <Benkinooby> Oo
[15:14] <ubuntu_> its raid 0
[15:14] <bastidrazor> DetectiveDongs: as far as i have seen it hasn't been an issue. just the www directory
[15:14] <sodaorat> Benkinooby, yes, it's weird, but I'm used to hardware problems hehe
[15:14] <rocktop> anyidea?
[15:14] <ikonia> ubuntu_: I'll be honest, that's never going to work for you
[15:14] <escott> ubuntu_, you have the worst possible configuration imaginable raid 0 stripping + gpt + mbr/bios boot
[15:14] <DetectiveDongs> i have a fake raid setup
[15:15] <ubuntu_> ah great
[15:15] <DetectiveDongs> it worked fine
[15:15] <DetectiveDongs> you need dmraid
[15:15] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs: it won't work for what ubuntu_ wants to do
[15:15] <DetectiveDongs> oh ok
[15:15] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, hm... jsut go quick and dirty... use a fat drive and then copy fomr the drive to your ntfs with windows
[15:15] <FAERY> hiya!
[15:15] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs: and fakeraid sucess depends on the exact motherboard model
[15:15] <ubuntu_> so cuz i have GPT+BIOS+RAID 0 it wont work..
[15:16] <escott> ubuntu_, i know you can get grub + gbt/mbr working by installing grub after creating a grub_bios partition, but i don't know that grub will be able to deal with the fakeraid stripping
[15:16] <ubuntu_> thats a great thing to hear..
[15:16] <ikonia> ubuntu_: gpt+raid0+fakeraid = worst configuration possible
[15:16] <sodaorat> Benkinooby Yeah i'll test that under windows, because I have a dual boot.
[15:16] <FAERY> goodbye
[15:16] <coz_> ubuntu_,  the gpt alone is going to take a bit of pain
[15:16] <sodaorat> Benkinooby Thanks a lot for your help
[15:16] <ikonia> coz_: 10.10 and later = gpt no problem
[15:17] <coz_> ikonia,   ah  that at least is good news
[15:17] <ubuntu_> well i do have hardware raid card for servers in my closet but it's a lil slower than my intel x58 chipset one
[15:17] <bullgard4_> ikonia:'passwd' worked all right. How can I determine the current active keyboard layout? I think it is stored in a file in the /etc directory.
[15:18] <ikonia> bullgard4_: env
[15:18] <Benkinooby> sodaorat, "help"... i tried my best
[15:18] <himcesjf> Is there a way to download all the files and folders stored in index of/ created using index.html altogether? For example, trying to download all file s anf folders of http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/ ??
[15:18] <ubuntu_> ill restart..
[15:18] <escott> himcesjf, wget
[15:19] <wols> himcesjf: wget
[15:19] <charlie_> after doing some kernel update from 2.6.32 to 2.6.38, my sound stopped working. help needed
[15:19] <escott> himcesjf, but please be considerate before doing that. ibiblio is a non-profit. if you want to mirror them you may be able to do so with rsync
[15:19] <edbian> himcesjf: wget -r
[15:20] <ikonia> charlie_: how did you do kernel updates ?
[15:20] <DetectiveDongs> bastidrazor mind if i pm u
[15:20] <bullgard4_> ikonia: The env command produces no output with direct keyboard  relation. I can see LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 though.
[15:20] <himcesjf> escott: That was just an example. I was thinking to have the files and folders exactly the same way it is stored in there
[15:20] <himcesjf> I'll try what was suggested here
[15:20] <ikonia> bullgard4_: the first thing is to check the language is correct
[15:20] <bastidrazor> DetectiveDongs: not at all.
[15:20] <sina> can anybody tell me how I can update my Xscreen?
[15:21] <charlie_> ikonia: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.38.xxxx
[15:21] <mbrochh> hey all. on a fresh 11.04 install, how can i get the panel color to match the rest of my theme's colors (ambience theme)
[15:21] <charlie_> ikonia: linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic
[15:21] <stwange> hi, what creates /boot/grub/{stage1,stage2,menu.lst}? Running natty 64 bit, I've installed grub, done a setup through grub (which wouldn't work without me copying stage1 and stage2 from /usr/lib/grub/.../stage1 and stage2 into /boot/grub), but it hasn't created menu.lst. I've tried grub-install /dev/sda but it says "Couldn't find device for /boot"
[15:21] <mbrochh> It looks windows 3.11ish, old, white and ugly
[15:21] <sina> can anybody tell me how I can update my Xscreen?
[15:21] <bullgard4_> ikonia: Does my statement 'LANG=de_DE.UTF-8' fulfill your requirement to check if the language is correct?
[15:21] <wols> sina: what do you mean with "Xscereen"?
[15:21] <charlie_> ikonia: this is the kernel that I installed linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic
[15:22] <escott> stwange, menu.lst is from grub1 aka grub_legacy most have moved to grub2
[15:22] <ikonia> bullgard4_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[15:22] <ikonia> charlie_: what version of ubuntu are you using
[15:22] <charlie_> ikonia: 10.04
[15:22] <ikonia> charlie_: that doesn't look like the right kernel for that OS
[15:22] <charlie_> ikonia: what do I do now? do I need to downgrade the kernel?
[15:23] <ikonia> charlie_: how did you upgrade it ? where did you get it from ?
[15:23] <stwange> escott, thanks. I need grub1 but I can't find grub-legacy in apt-cache. is it grub-coreboot?
[15:23] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, Looks like he downloaded the Natty image to run on Lucid.
[15:23] <stwange> escott, note I installed grub with apt-get, not grub2. Not sure if it's just an alias though
[15:23] <Runeazn> im ubuntu dude :P
[15:23] <charlie_> ikonia: I got it from the official repository
[15:23] <escott> stwange, grub-coreboot should be for coreboot aka openbios
[15:23] <wols> stwange: no, that's not it. why do you need grub1?
[15:23] <ikonia> charlie_: which official repo
[15:23] <Runeazn> So what did you tell me to do?
[15:24] <Runeazn> Im booted in windows currently.,
[15:24] <stwange> wols, working on an image which I don't have full control over, the underlying imager will expect grub1
[15:24] <DetectiveDongs> if i want to serve page from both nginx (nobody nogroup) and apache (www-data www-data), /var/www/site1 served by nginx /var/www/site2 from apache; how should my permissions be then?
[15:25] <escott> stwange, grub-pc is grub2 sorry
[15:25] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs nginx ?
[15:25] <charlie_> ikonia: Im sorry, I dont know but I installed it by typing "sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic"
[15:25] <fritzophrenic> I'm looking to log the websites visited by my daughter. I don't want to set up filtering - whitelists are too restrictive (she's almost a teenager) and blacklists don't work anyway - I just want to be able to monitor what she's visiting. I'd rather have a nice GUI over pure command-line tools. Any suggestions? I found browser-history but reading the description I don't think there would be a way to make sure she doesn't c
[15:25] <DetectiveDongs> yes nginx?
[15:25] <ikonia> charlie_: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[15:25] <fritzophrenic> worst case I can have my router email me logs and grep through them for her IP address but that just sounds like a lot of work
[15:25] <edbian> fritzophrenic: she doesn't what?
[15:25] <DetectiveDongs> ikonia you're like neo in the matrix with helping people this morning :P
[15:26] <edbian> fritzophrenic: You're first post got caught off
[15:26] <celthunder> fritzophrenic: nothing stopping her from killing it anyway
[15:26] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs: how can you run two webservers at once ?
[15:26] <DetectiveDongs> different ports
[15:26] <DetectiveDongs> (local dev)
[15:26] <escott> stwange, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto for grub-legacy docs
[15:26] <sina> is there anybody help me at updating Xscreen? ???
[15:26] <charlie_> ikonia: # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386 (20110211.1)]/ lucid main restricted
[15:26] <charlie_> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[15:26] <charlie_> # newer versions of the distribution.
[15:26] <charlie_> deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted
[15:26] <charlie_> deb-src http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted
[15:26] <sina> is there anybody help me at updating Xscreen? ???
[15:26] <FloodBot1> charlie_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <charlie_> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[15:26] <sina> is there anybody help me at updating Xscreen? ???
[15:26] <stwange> thanks escott
[15:26] <FloodBot1> sina: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <fritzophrenic> I found browser-history but reading the description I don't think there would be a way to make sure she doesn't clear the history.
[15:26] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs: in that case the permissions need to be a group that both the apache owner and the nginx owner are a member of and has at least read access
[15:26] <himcesjf> escott: To mirror is to have data stored in the same way it is organised in Index of/ ? How does rsync helps to do same?
[15:26] <IAmNotThatGuy> !pastebin | charlie_
[15:27] <ikonia> !pastebin | charlie_
[15:27] <DetectiveDongs> ikonia if nginx is under nobody.nogroup, i'm not sure how that exactly works
[15:27] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah! muted :D
[15:27] <keithclark> I am trying to create a live usb stick with startup disk creator and it won't let me select my image of choice, puppy linux.  Is it designed to only work with Ubuntu .iso's?
[15:27] <DetectiveDongs> do i need to run nginx under an actual user in that case
[15:27] <fritzophrenic> she doesn't have sudo privileges so if it's running as me or root she shouldn't be able to kill it, should she?
[15:27] <edbian> fritzophrenic: The only way to guarantee she can't tamper with it is to filter at the router (if you're emailing the logs why don't you have the script that emails the log first grep the log for her IP).  More importantly why do you not trust your own daughter?
[15:27] <ikonia> DetectiveDongs: then you need to make the apache owner share the same group as nginix
[15:27] <celthunder> fritzophrenic: physical access= yes
[15:27] <DetectiveDongs> ok
[15:27] <escott> himcesjf, depends on if you plan to do this once or on a regular basis. if you want to regularly have the same contents they would likely prefer you setup an rsync mirror and only download the new files, rather than using wget which can't tell what has changed
[15:27] <charlie_> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/660542/
[15:28] <celthunder> fritzophrenic: and same with the router..if you have physical access it's pretty hard to log/block people from doing anything
[15:28] <ikonia> charlie_: there are no repos in that file that contain the kernel you use
[15:28] <edbian> fritzophrenic: I've read a lot of articles and stuff online about parents monitoring children.  It always comes down to.  Don't monitor their activites (online or otherwise) it's not fair to them and it doesn't really solve the problem.
[15:28] <JRWR> on Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS, I would like to strip out (configs also) of all packages there where not in the base install of ubuntu, also to reset all other config files to defaults as well (Its on a VPS)
[15:28] <escott> fritzophrenic, physical access is (almost) always root access. she could just boot her own livecd
[15:29] <fritzophrenic> ok, so barring a liveCD...assuming she stays within the installed system, she shouldn't be able to stop a process not owned by her, correct?
[15:30] <ZwIrc> How to delete a partition? (ramdisk partition)
[15:30] <escott> fritzophrenic, she shouldn't be able to
[15:30] <fritzophrenic> as for trust, this is why I don't want to install filtering SW. I just want to be able to check in from time to time. "know what she's doing online" and all that
[15:30] <escott> ZwIrc, for tmpfs just umount it
[15:30] <wols> fritzophrenic: use any proxy that logs
[15:31] <fritzophrenic> ok, so basically my best bet would not be client SW but grepping the router logs. Ugh.
[15:31] <himcesjf> escott: And to rsync URL will function? . ssh: Could not resolve hostname http: Name or service not known rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [Receiver] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [Receiver=3.0.7]  I couldn't find anything related on man .
[15:32] <escott> himcesjf, you would need to check with that server's administrator to see if they have an rsync server that you could connect to, its not usually public the way the www or ftp server is
[15:33] <fritzophrenic> i might just use browser-history anyway and trust her not to mess with it (both out of ignorance and out of actual trust)
[15:33] <stwange> escott, grub-install -v shows 0.97 (so grub-legacy), as does grub --version. setup via grub seems to work (and install menu.lst) but it doesn't actually do so: http://pastie.org/private/bpmpz8btzjeasbbjlx3g
[15:33] <celthunder> fritzophrenic: use a proxy thatlogs where it goes...
[15:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> side
[15:33] <celthunder> fritzophrenic: should be pretty easyto do
[15:33] <himcesjf> escott: But the command is <rsync URL> ?
[15:33] <keithclark> How to create a live usb that is not ubuntu?
[15:34] <escott> himcesjf, rsync is a completely different tool and protocol. it can be rsync over an unencrypted rsync port rsync:// or it can be tunneled over ssh. talk to the admin of the remote server you want to mirror
[15:34] <stwange> escott, if there's some obvious step I should have done between apt-get installing the kernel, installing grub, and what I've pasted above please don't assume that I've done it :)
[15:36] <escott> stwange, im afraid ive completely forgotten all my grub-legacy knowledge i think its better to point you to the wiki rather than risking giving you grub2 commands by mistake. sorry
[15:36] <auronandace> keithclark: have you tried asking in a channel that is not #ubuntu ?
[15:36] <Zeik> Good morning everyone.
[15:36] <keithclark> auronandace, but I'm running Ubuntu
[15:36] <stwange> escott that's fine, I did check the wiki but it seems to rely on having a ubuntu rescue CD and the GUI. Thanks for the help anyway.
[15:36] <himcesjf> keithclark:  Plug your USB stick and learn how your USB stick is recognized by the system: # ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/*usb*  Then # dd if=/path/to/iso/*.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M;sync. This is command line else there are GUI methods available as well like LinuxLive creator something.
[15:36] <Zeik> Could anyone direct me to an automotive repair chat inside of the freenode community?
[15:37] <celthunder> Zeik: what?
[15:37] <Ulfalizer> Zeik: mostly software nerds here.. :
[15:37] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[15:37] <Ulfalizer> P
[15:37] <pmjdebruijn> http://files.pcode.nl/temp/ubuntu-natty-intel-compiz-rounded-corner-artifact.png
[15:37] <pmjdebruijn> does anybody recognize that?
[15:38] <Zeik> Ugh... I am having car troubles not Ubuntu issues, lol. Kind of odd for a change. =)
[15:38] <stwange> repeating my question for a wider audience :) I'm trying to get grub(-legacy) working. I've installed it but it didn't come with stage1 or stage2 in /boot. I've copied these in from /usr/lib/... and used grub setup but I still can't get menu.lst to appear: http://pastie.org/private/bpmpz8btzjeasbbjlx3g
[15:38] <escott> keithclark, to make a live usb of say fedora you need a system image to boot which is non-trivial to make check with that distro. unless you are trying to ask how to create an ubuntu live usb from a non-ubuntu system
[15:38] <mcf3782> Does anyone know of an active IRC channel of MRTG users?   I need to graph some stats from a Motorola DSL modem, that MRTG's cfgmaker can't figure out;  and I don't understand the cfg file syntax well enough to write it on my own without some help.    Any suggestions?
[15:38] <fritzophrenic> I've never set up a proxy before, doesn't that use dedicated hardware normally? I'd rather not. But my router can take logs and email them. Unfortunately for that to work simply and reliably for me, I'd need to set up a static IP for her computer.
[15:38] <celthunder> Zeik: what's the problem with your car and what kind of car...i'm only good for basic stuff though
[15:38] <Ulfalizer> Zeik: there's probably forums if you google around a bit. doubt there's anything on irc.
[15:38] <Ulfalizer> or on freenode at least
[15:38] <wols> fritzophrenic: no. stuff like privoxy and squid run everywhere
[15:38] <Ulfalizer> heck, i don't even have a driver's license
[15:39] <escott> fritzophrenic, your router should be able to establish a static ip for her computers mac address
[15:39] <Zeik> I'll have to search forums for the issue then. Thanks anyway guys.
[15:39] <Fanda> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu 11 (64bit) on SATA disk (AHCI). I can mount it, but the installer do not show it to choose this drive. What should I do?
[15:39] <fritzophrenic> yeah it can do that, I've avoided it so far however except for briefly when a game was misbehaving without port forwarding which also requires a static IP
[15:39] <papul|c3> Why does ubuntu suck so much? The devs have ruined it in trying to make it easy to use.
[15:39] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: "mount it" ?
[15:40] <unobtruse> hey guys. can anyone tell me where I can help out with bug fixing? I'm not an experienced programmer, but I know a bit of C and python...
[15:40] <Dulak> lucid doesn't suck.  Everything after lucid however...
[15:40] <ballroomblitz42> I have (had) a directory in my home, called dir.  I wanted to move this to userB's home, so I did "sudo mv dir /home/userB/"  Now I don't see the directory in either place.  What did I do?  Can I get it back?
[15:40] <celthunder> unobtruse: #C and #python?
[15:40] <unobtruse> great
[15:40] <unobtruse> thanks
[15:41] <unobtruse> celthunder
[15:41] <HelloWorld321> Is 10-base-T too slow for uncompressed video over VNC?  I get terrible input performance if I use low compression, but I get terrible video output if I use high compression
[15:41] <unobtruse> join #python
[15:41] <unobtruse> oops
[15:41] <pmjdebruijn> HelloWorld321: 10-BaseT seriously?
[15:41] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: If Ii only start ubuntu, I can work with the drive. But I cant install on it...
[15:41] <celthunder> HelloWorld321: uhm what uses 10 base T anymore
[15:41] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  10-base-T is like.. err.. the old coax type connection isent it?
[15:41] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: you can't install to a mounted rive
[15:41] <Dulak> HelloWorld321: yes, 10-base-T is about half the speed you need to stream video
[15:42] <wols> dr_willis: yes
[15:42] <wols> Dulak: not true. it all depends what kind of video
[15:42] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  if you want to play video over it.. then mount the remote location, and play it. dont add vnc into the mixx.
[15:42] <escott> Fanda, is the partition unmounted when you start the installer
[15:42] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: Yes. Installer unmout it anyway...
[15:42] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321,  or use vlc to stream it to the local player.
[15:42] <Fanda> escott: Yes
[15:42] <wols> HelloWorld321: you cannot stream video over any normal vnc no matter the network speed
[15:43] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: what does the installer say? or show you? can you make a screenshot?
[15:43] <escott> Fanda, does the installer show the disk at all?
[15:43] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: It just does not show the disc...
[15:43] <Fanda> escott: No.
[15:44] <Dulak> wols: ??  I watch video across a vnc link all the time here, why are you talking about what you obviously know nothing about?
[15:44] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: even if you choose manual partitioning?
[15:45] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: No. I did try to remove other discs, but installer do not show this disc anyway...
[15:45] <pmjdebruijn> very odd
[15:45] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: anything special about your rig? having software raid configured? using additional sata controllers??
[15:46] <Zeik> Is there a way to get EXA accelleration instead of UXA?
[15:47] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: I think no. One disc (at this time), AHCI, SATA, on SATA1 connector
[15:47] <HelloWorld321> Tx Dulak.  That's  the answer I need.
[15:47] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda does your dmesg say anything funny?
[15:47] <keithclark> escott, I don't understand why nobody recommended UNetbootin.  The simplest solution
[15:47] <HelloWorld321> Yes.  10BaseT is old.  I have an old hub somewhere in my network.  It's not coaxial cable, but the transmission speed is from the 90's.  Back in the 90's, when my firm upgraded from 10BaseT to 100BaseT, I just figured it was plenty fast for a home network.  That was true then, but it's starting to show its age now it seems.  I'm not streaming video, I'm just trying to connect to an otherwise headless box, and I hate getting the
[15:48] <dr_willis> keithclark,  unetbootin has had issues in the past.. I tend to use tools from the Pendrivelinux web site.
[15:48] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: Some utility?
[15:48] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: commandline
[15:48] <keithclark> dr_willis, thanks, I'll check that out as well!
[15:48] <tensorpudding> HelloWorld321: you should probably upgrade to ethernet for a home network
[15:48] <pmjdebruijn> tensorpudding: 10BaseT is ethernet
[15:48] <Dulak> HelloWorld321: try forcing full-duplex on the connection, it might help, but probably not
[15:48] <dr_willis> keithclark,  and from what i gather of his issue.. unetbootin is not the answer.. but ive just been skimming the  channel. :)
[15:48] <pmjdebruijn> HelloWorld321: in any case, even Gigabit switch are dirt cheap now
[15:49] <HelloWorld321> pmjdeburijn: that's true.   it's time.
[15:49] <dr_willis> Finally gotten my whole home over to GB speeds now..
[15:49] <pmjdebruijn> HelloWorld321: also be aware that a hub _shared_ all the bandwidth that does through it
[15:50] <dr_willis> and now wireless is taking over. :) so i dont need the wires i ran throught the house.. but im keeping them there for backup
[15:51] <Dulak> dr_willis: I had a neighbor that was monitoring my wireless.  I moved to all wired just to avoid that in the future.
[15:52] <acicula> Dulak: why not just enable encryption on your wireless network?
[15:52] <dr_willis> Dulak,  :) i can think of some dirty tricks.. but it would be OT for here.. heh.
[15:52] <HelloWorld321> !just
[15:53] <Dulak> acicula: I did, he kept breaking the key.
[15:53] <dr_willis> Its a wild wireless world....
[15:53] <acicula> Dulak: tried moving to wpa2?
[15:53] <red__> hi help please trying to play a dvd but the machine requests a decryption libary
[15:54] <dr_willis> red__,  theres extra packages you must install to enable playback of comerical dvds
[15:54] <acicula> Dulak: or filing a police report for that matter?
[15:54] <dr_willis> !dvd
[15:54] <ballroomblitz42> I have (had) a directory in my home, called dir. I wanted to move this to userB's home, so I did "sudo mv dir /home/userB/" Now I don't see the directory in either place. What did I do? Can I get it back?
[15:54] <Dulak> acicula: at the time all I had was wep.  My point was wireless is open for easedropping pretty easily, whereas wired is not.
[15:54] <mver> file permissions: I am logged in as mver, but my files in OpenOffice/LibreOffice are being saved with owner:group = root. When they get to my WindowsXP partition I cannot move them among directories. Gran Dolor! How do I change the default permissions to mver:mver, please?
[15:54] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: http://pastie.org/2334892
[15:54] <celthunder> acicula: if he broadcasts hi s wireless into the neighbors area...it's his problem...also using wep/mac filtering is almost worse than not encrypting at all
[15:55] <red__> dr willis sir where do I find these?
[15:55] <acicula> celthunder: if you break a wireless encryption key and proceed to decrypt tapped traffic you are criminally liable in almost every country
[15:55] <dr_willis> !dvd | red__
[15:55] <escott> mver, who owns the folder the files are saved in?
[15:56] <dr_willis> red__,  theres also dozens of blog sites that give instructions on what to do exactly. I dont even hae a dvd drive in my pcs.
[15:57] <acicula> Dulak: true enough, though for home use you should safe with wpa2, provided you choose a decent passphrase
[15:57] <Frijolie> how do you replace colons in file names with a dash in all folders and subfolders given a directory?
[15:57] <acicula> *be safe
[15:58] <dr_willis> Frijolie,  how many files total? I often use  the 'qmv' command. but it may be overkill for your needs.
[15:58] <HelloWorld321> Frijoile: using a fancy mv  script piped through grep?
[15:58] <escott> Frijolie, find + rename perhaps
[15:58] <mbrochh> hey all. on a fresh 11.04 install, how can i get the panel color to match the rest of my theme's colors (ambience theme)
[15:58] <dr_willis> qmv puts the file listng in a text editor. you edit as you want.. save/quit.. it renames them all :) lets you use the text editors serach/replace/other tols to get the names all just right
[15:59] <mver> escott: who owns? Me. i.e. mver
[15:59] <Frijolie> unknown number of files and unknown number of subdirectories
[15:59] <escott> mver, what does ls -l say for the parent folder. im suspicious that you have the setgid bit set and group ownership of the parent folder to root
[16:00] <rumpe1> Frijolie, find . type -f -exec echo rename 's/:/-/' {} \;        (echo for testing purposes)
[16:00] <Bill_MI> Hey folks, looking for a good reference of shutdown in Lucid 10.04-LTS.  For some reason, cifs in fstab started the old "CIFS VFS: No response..." for no apparent reason.
[16:01] <Bill_MI> I'm finding a zillion opinions and patches - suggestions?
[16:01] <Frijolie> rumpe1, i'll try that...
[16:02] <mver> escott: /home/mver is  mver:mver after ls -l
[16:02] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: nothing obviously wrong there
[16:03] <webira> Hello, I am unsing ubuntu 10.10 (32 bit version) on a laptop. Network manager has dissappeared from my gnome bar and network has stopped working. i can't even connect to my router. The strange thing is that the same laptop works fine on a live cd with ubuntu.
[16:03] <webira> What seems to be the problem?
[16:03] <webira> I tried killing nm-applet and restarting the system. Still no luck....
[16:03] <pmjdebruijn> webira: did you try to upgrade or anyting?
[16:03] <Frijolie> rumpe1, "find: unknown predicate -f"
[16:03] <webira> pmjdebruijn:  No, I haven't tried upgrading or something.
[16:03] <AFD> is there a way to roll back dir permmisions I just accidently on the wrong folder?
[16:04] <edbian> AFD: no, but you can set them to whatever you want (what they were) but there is no way to know what they were (unless you remember)
[16:04] <rumpe1> Frijolie, you have a typo
[16:05] <webira> Any suggestions? I don't want to do a reinstall of ubuntu
[16:05] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s
[16:05] <edbian> webira: Add the notification-area
[16:05] <bob_> thks in advance
[16:05] <dr_willis> webira,  as a test make a new user, see if it works for them.
[16:05] <webira> edbian:  How?
[16:05] <escott> mver, perhaps your default group is root, which it shouldn't be
[16:05] <Frijolie> rumnpe1, I took out the -f and it's looping through all the files..is it only showing the files which need to be renamed or is it showing all files?
[16:06] <edbian> webira: It's an applet (like nm-applet)
[16:06] <webira> dr_willis:  Hmmm I'll try.
[16:06] <edbian> webira: Add notification-area to the panel
[16:06] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s
[16:07] <webira> edbian:  I've already right click on the bar...and added it. :) The network icon doesn't appear
[16:07] <edbian> webira: wanna do things by cli ?
[16:07] <webira> edbian:  Sure! If you can tell me....I am a beginner user.
[16:07] <edbian> webira: sudo iwlist scan
[16:08] <mver> logged on as mver, my main group is mver and my user id IS 1000 (Ubuntu distro)
[16:08] <escott> edbian, you might suggest his trying nmcli
[16:08] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s
[16:08] <edbian> webira: That will scan for wireless networks.  It should list all wireless networkins in range
[16:08] <edbian> escott: I've never used that.
[16:08] <webira> edbian:  But I need the wired networks :)
[16:08] <edbian> webira: oh, is it plugged in ?
[16:09] <webira> edbian:  Yes
[16:09] <edbian> webira: ping www.google.com
[16:09] <escott> mver, a mount option on the partition? im running out of ideas
[16:09] <edbian> webira: Does that work
[16:09] <edbian> ?
[16:09] <webira> edbian:  No
[16:09] <Rebas> I cant seem to install java, i get the liscence agreement in the terminal box, and i scroll down to the bottom, and theres no way to accept it. what should i do next?
[16:09] <webira> edbian:  It doesn't even work when I try to acces my router
[16:09] <mbrochh> Hey I want to login automatically. When I go to the Login Screen Window and select automatically login as .... the list of possible users is empty..
[16:09] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s
[16:09] <edbian> webira: did you do anything that caused it to stop working?
[16:09] <AFD> is it possible to rollback a permission change I just accidently on the wrong folder?
[16:09] <webira> edbian:  Don't know why but it fails to connect to it...if I try from live cd it works just fine.
[16:10] <wols> AFD: you already got your answer. it won't change
[16:10] <rumpe1> Frijolie, lol.. okay, i've made a type. One moment...
[16:10] <rumpe1> Frijolie, typo not type
[16:10] <webira> edbian:  I haven't done anything to the system...just surfed the web ;) and listened to some music  on vlc
[16:10] <diomidis> hello everyone. I've got a laptop with a screen whis is 95% broken. So I got an external display in order to continue to use my laptop. Today I installed ubuntu, I could see the whole installation process through the external screen. So I installed the nvidia drivers and now I can't see through my external screen. How can I fix this? I tried the fn keys but nothing happened.
[16:10] <escott> AFD, no. only with filesystems that support rollback which is usually pretty limited
[16:10] <milen8204> anyone knows free English - German dictionary ?
[16:10] <AFD> escott sorry I missed it. thanks...
[16:11] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s
[16:11] <Rebas> I cant seem to install java, i get the liscence agreement in the terminal box, and i scroll down to the bottom, and theres no way to accept it. what should i do next?
[16:11] <edbian> webira: did you do anything that caused it to stop working?
[16:11] <rumpe1> Frijolie, find . -type f -name '*:*' -exec echo rename 's/:/-/' {} \;      should be better i guess
[16:11] <escott> diomidis, the installer was probably automatically mirroring. you would need to use the nvidia-control tools to enable that mirroring
[16:11] <webira> edbian:  No, I did nothing.
[16:11] <edbian> webira: sudo ip addr
[16:11] <edbian> webira: Do you see an ip address listed?
[16:11] <mver> escott: thanks for your ideas. On partition, hoping this will paste: my /home partition is separate from my /root partition. Here is fstab snipped: #UUID=55fa1f92-968c-4de7-9844-f788ea949c4d /media/linux-home ext3 errors=remount-ro,user_xattr 0 1
[16:11] <mver> # Commented out by Dropbox
[16:11] <mver> # UUID=55fa1f92-968c-4de7-9844-f788ea949c4d /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[16:11] <mver> UUID=55fa1f92-968c-4de7-9844-f788ea949c4d /home ext3 nodev,nosuid,user_xattr 0 2
[16:11] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s thks in advance
[16:11] <webira> edbian:  One day the network manager just stopped appearing in gnome panel...and it failed to connect to my router
[16:11] <rumpe1> Frijolie, it should send one line for each file with a ":" in its name and the corresponding command, that would be executed, if there weren't an "echo"
[16:12] <Rebas> I cant seem to install java, i get the liscence agreement in the terminal box, and i scroll down to the bottom, and theres no way to accept it. what should i do next?
[16:12] <Frijolie> rumpe1, will this also rename directories (folders) which may have a colon?
[16:12] <webira> edbian:  Yes I see a bunch of ip addreses
[16:12] <Frijolie> rumpe1, thanks for your help. this will save me a TON of work
[16:12] <rumpe1> Frijolie, no  (because of the "-type f(ile)"
[16:13] <edbian> webira: do you see one listed under eth0 beginning with inet  ?
[16:13] <bullgard4_> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf > Keyboard configuration - console: I obtained: "Looking for keymap to install; de-latin1". This is my wanted keymap. I tested it. But when I rebooted, this wanted keymap has gone lost. How to fix this?
[16:13] <Zeik> What is the mostly played online FPS game in Ubuntu currently? Anyone know? Or maybe have a good suggestion? I am running an Intel 4500MHD if that makes any difference.
[16:13] <Frijolie> rumpe1, so if I omit the 'type -f' it will also search for folders with a colon?
[16:13] <rumpe1> Frijolie, I'm just not sure, what happens, if there are more than one colon in the filename... maybe you need a "g" for the substition pattern
[16:13] <mver> escott: And it is only this way recently. For months I have moved files back and forth w/o permission difficulties except that from Ubuntu to WinXP the permissions are omitted, which is not problem
[16:14] <rumpe1> Frijolie, then it will search for anything with a colon in it's name (file, folder, device, ...)
[16:14] <webira> edbian:  Yes
[16:14] <edbian> webira: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:14] <Rebas> I cant seem to install java, i get the liscence agreement in the terminal box, and i scroll down to the bottom, and theres no way to accept it. what should i do next?
[16:14] <edbian> webira: The command restarts the entire networking stack.  If you see any errors important to tell me what they are.
[16:14] <induz> is there any PDF printing permission to allow
[16:15] <webira> edbian:  No errors
[16:15] <diomidis> @escott thank you but I cant configure it because I cant see the whole laptop screen. only a small part of it
[16:15] <induz> I have a pDF file but I can not print  some pages
[16:15] <edbian> webira: Can you get online now?
[16:15] <webira> edbian:  It says OK :)
[16:15] <escott> mver, but this is an ext3 partitons. but you are using it under windows?
[16:15] <induz> is there any XPDf kinda thing
[16:15] <webira> edbian:  I'll have to restart the machine to see
[16:15] <edbian> webira: You should not have to restart.
[16:15] <induz> I am running Ubuntu 10
[16:15] <escott> diomidis, you might try your laptops external display button, maybe that will work for you
[16:15] <edbian> webira: That is the point of that command
[16:15] <webira> edbian:  Well I am doing this from a live cd
[16:16] <induz> pdf printing permission is not allowed
[16:16] <webira> edbian:  I forgot that :D I am on a live cd now
[16:16] <edbian> webira: hahha, oh, we need to do things on the installed system
[16:16] <diomidis> @escott you mean fn+key
[16:16] <webira> edbian:  ^^ Sorry
[16:16] <edbian> webira: sure, that explains why everything is working! :D
[16:16] <edbian> webira: that's ok
[16:16] <escott> induz, usually you have to get the xpdf source, remove a few select lines and then recompile
[16:16] <webira> edbian:  I'll try the command and hope it works
[16:16] <rumpe1> Frijolie, ah... as i thought: for multiple colons you need 's/:/-/g'
[16:16] <Rebas> I cant seem to install java, i get the liscence agreement in the terminal box, and i scroll down to the bottom, and theres no way to accept it. what should i do next?
[16:16] <webira> edbian:  One more thing, how can I see what network adapter I have?
[16:16] <induz> how can I gte xpdf?/
[16:16] <escott> induz, from the xpdf website
[16:17] <Frijolie> rumpe1, well I'm running this from a specific folder (Pictures), so it will only search recursively from where I run the command
[16:17] <induz> nothing on Ubuntu repo
[16:17] <edbian> webira: sudo lspci
[16:17] <disse> hey guys, how to switch from normal gnome2 to tty in ubuntu? strg+alt+F1 only spawns a black window
[16:17] <edbian> webira: sudo lspci | grep Network    (makes it shorter)
[16:17] <webira> edbian:  Thanks :)
[16:17] <induz> escott,  it there any program on repo
[16:17] <mver> escott: Sorry: this Dell is dual boot. I am in Ubuntu now; all is cool here. But when file is saved into WinXP partitition it will only live happily within My Documents; I cannot move it into a sub directory.
[16:18] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: Thank you anyway. :-)
[16:18] <edbian> webira: makes sure you have the notification area. In ubuntu the network manager thingy lives in the notification area.
[16:18] <edbian> webira: Can you talk to me while the normal ubuntu install is running
[16:18] <edbian> ?
[16:18] <escott> induz, doubtful, the DMCA would make that a felony in the US
[16:18] <redhunter> e ae galera
[16:18] <Rebas> I cant seem to install java, i get the liscence agreement in the terminal box, and i scroll down to the bottom, and theres no way to accept it. what should i do next?
[16:19] <disse> hey guys, how to switch from normal gnome2 to tty in ubuntu? strg+alt+F1 only spawns a black window
[16:19] <bullgard4_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf > Keyboard configuration - console: I obtained: "Looking for keymap to install; de-latin1". This is my wanted keymap. I tested it. But when I rebooted, this wanted keymap has gone (lost). How to fix this?
[16:19] <rumpe1> Rebas, screen maybe too small?
[16:19] <mver> escott: or put another way, yes, I can access the ext3 /home/mver from WinXP using an add-on to win explorer
[16:19] <wsr3193> Rebas: Hit the tab key
[16:19] <Zeik> mver: What exact file type are you moving from your Ubuntu to your XP partition?
[16:19] <Rebas> ..
[16:19] <rumpe1> disse, whats with strg+alt+fx (with x=1,...,6)?
[16:19] <bob_> I am using apache2 for my own website but when I try and access from outside i get asked for username & pass to access the realm EchoLife HG520s
[16:19] <escott> mver, perhaps its an ACL issue. when ntfs driver translates the permissions of my documents it identifies it as something that can't be moved
[16:19] <induz> escott, oh i c
[16:19] <disse> all the same rumpe1
[16:19] <disse> just a black window
[16:20] <disse> and f7 gnome
[16:20] <mver> escott: anything produced by OpenOffice or equivalent: .doc, odt, .xls, .ods, etc.
[16:20] <diomidis> @escott nothing happens with any key compination
[16:20] <disse> oh, now a black window with an red/orange top bar
[16:21] <escott> diomidis, you might ask around and see if anyone has an xorg config file that you can use as a template to modify yours
[16:21] <mver> escott: If it is ACL I will have to read up on that off line.
[16:21] <disse> is this not working on gnome2 or do i need a root user, natty is my distri
[16:22] <disse> i tried to spawn a root when i was logged out with strg+alt+F2
[16:22] <disse> not worked
[16:22] <diomidis> @escott I cannot modify anything if I cannot see through any of my screens
[16:22] <disse> i tried recovery mode
[16:22] <disse> not worked
[16:22] <sgo11> is that possible to let command line program use socks proxy? I only knew export http_proxy=. can I export socks_proxy ??
[16:22] <disse> standart installation with compiz and the extended nvidia drivers
[16:22] <escott> diomidis, you should see the console mirrored (ctrl-alt-f1)
[16:23] <disse> oh, i meant ctrl
[16:23] <disse> not strg
[16:23] <escott> diomidis, alternately install ssh (do it within a chroot environment from the livecd)
[16:24] <diomidis> @escott I can see a part of the terminal bcz the screen is broken. also, what can I do with the ssh
[16:24] <diomidis> ?
[16:25] <javier_> how do you get firefox to have the same appearance in natty as windows?
[16:25] <javier_> I dont see the icons for refresh, home or anything
[16:25] <escott> diomidis, connect to a shell remotely
[16:26] <bullgard4_> javier_: I did install Firefox the normal way. And I do have a refresh button!
[16:26] <escott> diomidis, if ctrl-alt-f1 isn't giving you a console but the livecd is mirroring the displays I would follow !grub's chroot instructions up until the point of installing grub, and instead sudo apt-get install openssh-server then reboot and ssh into that machine
[16:26] <bullgard4_> javier_: I did install Firefox the normal way. And I do have a home button!
[16:27] <lilcyber> Morning
[16:28] <javier_> i am looking for it to look like this http://www.google.com/imgres?q=firefox+toolbar+screenshot&um=1&hl=en&client=ubuntu&sa=N&channel=fs&biw=1142&bih=676&tbm=isch&tbnid=ZuOoOYyMC3JIJM:&imgrefurl=http://www.mouserunner.net/FF_Toolbar_Buttons&docid=BTMhh1yigQr4HM&w=564&h=142&ei=5Lw-TpOYKITLgQfYpoWBCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=397&vpy=293&dur=3374&hovh=112&hovw=448&tx=254&ty=25&page=3&tbnh=71&tbnw=283&start=35&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:35
[16:28] <takasugi>  hi. i can execute shell scripts that only got read permission but not execute permissoin. why?
[16:28] <diomidis> @escott my laptop's screen is broken and the external display I have attached to it is disabled when I login to my installed ubuntu sustem. When i boot live usb external monitor is enabled (without drivers-nvidia)
[16:29] <escott> takasugi, shell scripts are interpreted. what is running is bash not the script itself. the execute permission enables the shebang and the ./execution method but bash script.sh will always work
[16:29] <Norfolc> Hello!
[16:30] <bullgard4_> takasugi: Please state the result of '~$ ls -al <scrpt-filename>' for analysis.
[16:30] <Norfolc> Which combinations of media container, video codec and audio codec is the standard in linux?
[16:30] <mver> escott, Zeik: Thanks fellows. I think I'll relapse and logout.
[16:30] <acicula> ogg/vorbis?
[16:30] <bullgard4_> takasugi: Please state the result of '~$ ls -al <script-filename>' for analysis.
[16:30] <acicula> or mkv/matroska ?
[16:31] <Norfolc> mkv is a container. which codecs are proper for it?
[16:31] <takasugi> -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 13 2011-08-07 18:26 0.sh
[16:31] <bahamas> hello. i've just installed an update and now the time displayed by the clock is incorrect by 8 hours. the weird thing is that, if i click on it and then on time and date settings, it's displayed correct in that window. any ideas how i can fix this?
[16:31] <bullgard4_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf > Keyboard configuration - console: I obtained: "Looking for keymap to install; de-latin1". This is my wanted keymap. I tested it successfully. But when I rebooted, this wanted keymap has gone (lost). How to fix this?
[16:31] <Fuchs> takasugi: depending on how you execute it, it is still possible
[16:31] <Fuchs> takasugi: while ./ should not work, sh 0.sh should
[16:32] <bullgard4_> !prefix | takasugi
[16:32] <escott> diomidis, boot the live cd then chroot into your ubuntu system. then install openssh-server, then reboot into your system. at this point you can ssh into the system and tweak your xorg.conf file until things work correctly
[16:32] <takasugi> ok. thank you. i think problem solved. ubuntu FTW
[16:33] <diomidis> @escott thank you very much :)
[16:33] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: I create ext4 first, and now it works... Thank you again.
[16:34] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: huh?
[16:34] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: that's doesn't make any sense?
[16:34] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: how can you make ext4 when the disk isn't shown?
[16:35] <kevin_> hi all. so sometimes, my display freezes -- but all the processes are still running. i can ssh into the machine, but killing X or gdm does nothing. i cannot ctrl+alt+fN to a terminal, nor does ctrl+alt+backspace do anything. the only thing on the display that moves is the mouse cursor. is there any way i can "reset" the display module?
[16:35] <Fanda> Installer does not show it, Live ubuntu can mount it and work with it...
[16:35] <bahamas> anyone?
[16:36] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: Installer does not show it, Live ubuntu can mount it and work with it...
[16:36] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: yes? so?
[16:36] <pmjdebruijn> Fanda: how can you install to it if the installer doesn't show it?
[16:36] <escott> kevin_, does X refuse to die
[16:37] <kevin_> escott: no. the process does die
[16:37] <kevin_> (iirc)
[16:37] <odie5533> What work is needed to make an Ubuntu release as opposed to a rolling release like Arch?
[16:37] <Fanda> pmjdebruijn: I made ext4 partition first, and now also installer show it. And maybe I am lama. :-P
[16:38] <krazykrivda> my vfat partition will not give me rw access even though mount returns :
[16:38] <escott> kevin_, odd sounds like some kind of problem with the graphics card. maybe service gdm restart will reinitialize the display device
[16:38] <kevin_> ok, i'll try that out if it happens again
[16:39] <X3D> thinking of clustering my VPS (that i made) over WAN to my friends house, can someone help e.g tools, how to do it etc.
[16:39] <KM0201>  how do i clear 'saved passwords'... i entered a password to access a samba share, and choose to "remember it forever"... and now i want to set it to askk the password again
[16:39] <javier> odd request. I am trying to get the menu bar onto firefox, and have the toolbar look like it does in windows. how can i do this?
[16:39] <X3D> ?
[16:39] <pmjdebruijn> odie5533: release engineering?
[16:39]  * xk001 <3
[16:39] <pmjdebruijn> odie5533: rolling releases like arch is similar to running debian testing in many ways
[16:40] <javier> does anyone know if kvidtuner works with 64 bit
[16:40] <pmjdebruijn> odie5533: why?
[16:40] <odie5533> pmjdebruijn: I am wondering why distros choose release-based over rolling.
[16:41] <X3D> can anyone help?
[16:41] <bullgard4_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf > Keyboard configuration - console: I obtained: "Looking for keymap to install; de-latin1". This is my wanted keymap. I tested it successfully. But when I rebooted, this wanted keymap has gone (lost). How to fix this?
[16:41] <odie5533> particularly for regular desktop users
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> odie5533: huh?
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> odie5533: rolling releases are basically a crapshoot
[16:41] <pmjdebruijn> odie5533: it's insane for "normal" people
[16:41] <X3D> thinking of clustering my VPS (that i made) over WAN to my friends house, can someone help e.g tools, how to do it etc.? any help would be much apreciated :)
[16:42] <odie5533> pmjdebruijn: Most users update regular applications. Why would that be insane?
[16:42] <bullgard4_> pmjdebruijn: Can you please utter your apprehensions in #ubuntu-offtopic. They are no support.
[16:43] <pmjdebruijn> bullgard4_: fair enough
[16:43] <odie5533> bullgard4_: he was just trying to answer my question.
[16:44] <bahamas> asking again. why does the clock display the wrong time, even though it adjusts itself when i go to Time and Date Settings, and how can i fix it?
[16:45] <X3D> asking again, thinking of clustering my VPS (that i made) over WAN to my friends house, can someone help e.g tools, how to do it etc. (running ubuntu)
[16:45] <bullgard4_> !timeanddate| bahamas
[16:45] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: "clustering" is a rather generic term. please be more specific what you want?
[16:46] <bahamas> bullgard4, the location is set correctly, if that's what you wanted to reference
[16:46] <bullgard4_> !ntp | bahamas
[16:46] <X3D> pmjdebruijn i want to share my load (of my server) with his node...
[16:46] <kingofswords> how can i choose priority on files in transmission?
[16:47] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: rightclick on the torrent and checkout one of the tabs
[16:47] <winut> in inspector
[16:47] <kingofswords> ok
[16:47] <javier> does anyone know how to get the menu bar off unity and into firefox so the browser like it does in windows
[16:47] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: rightclick/properties/files
[16:47] <winut> right click on the files in inspector
[16:47] <javier> looks like ^
[16:47] <kingofswords> pmjdebruijn,  ok
[16:48] <X3D> pmjdebruijn?
[16:49] <X3D> LooneyLoonz you also from SA?
[16:49] <kingofswords> pmjdebruijn, theres no option to unshare or set priority?
[16:50] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: clustering is a generic term, encompassing various technologies
[16:50] <kingofswords> winut, whats inspector?
[16:50] <LooneyLoonz> X3D: yup I am :P
[16:50] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: asking for help with "clustering" is like asking for help with "clothes", nobody knows if you're taling about pants, t-shirts or underware
[16:50] <X3D> pmjdebruijn, i said i want to share the load....
[16:50] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: huh?
[16:50] <winut> button on transmission client
[16:50] <bahamas> !ntp
[16:50] <X3D> with my friends node..
[16:51] <winut> usually an "i"
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: for what?
[16:51] <X3D> LooneyLoonz: how old uu?
[16:51] <kingofswords> pmjdebruijn, theres no option to set piority
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: huh?
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: on the files tab
[16:51] <X3D> pmjdebruijn for my VPS, using it to host webaites
[16:51] <kingofswords> if i just right click torrent and click 'remove' does that just unshare it
[16:51] <LooneyLoonz> X3D: im 23
[16:51] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: for HTTP then
[16:52] <X3D> yes...
[16:52] <kingofswords> pmjdebruijn, yeh on files tab theres no option for piority
[16:52] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: file/progress/download/priority
[16:52] <winut> doh!!
[16:52] <X3D> high availability cluster
[16:52] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: the columns? you don't have a priority column
[16:52] <X3D> LooneyLoonz oh ok im 16 :P
[16:52] <kingofswords> pmjdebruijn,  nah must have different ver
[16:52] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: sharing load and high availability are _NOT_ the same thing
[16:53] <LooneyLoonz> X3D: Cool :)
[16:53] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: it has been there for some time
[16:53] <bahamas> btw, where's the system menu because i can't find it. has it been renamed in 11.04?
[16:53] <winut> right click file that is downloading, show inspector, select second tab from the right
[16:53] <kingofswords> pmjdebruijn,  im using ver 1.93
[16:53] <X3D> pmjdebruijn, i know i want to share the load using a bandwidth splitter....
[16:53] <pmjdebruijn> kingofswords: oh, that's something from the last iceage :)
[16:53] <kingofswords> oh well
[16:53] <ballroomblitz42> I have (had) a directory in my home, called dir. I wanted to move this to userB's home, so I did "sudo mv dir /home/userB/" Now I don't see the directory in either place. What did I do? Can I get it back?
[16:53] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: "bandwidth splitteR"
[16:53] <X3D> well thats what im guessing anyways
[16:53] <kingofswords> lol
[16:54] <takasugi> which is the most used instant messenger in the ubuntu community?
[16:54] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: you should probably look into round robin DNS, and maybe heartbeat
[16:54] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: you probably need to read up on networking technology first
[16:54] <X3D> and would you reccomend proxmox?
[16:54] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: there is no simple way to explain what you want, without having prior knowledge of the underlying technologies
[16:54] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: proxmox is a control panel
[16:54] <kingofswords> winut, dont have that either...thx anyway
[16:54] <javier> has anyone used kvidtune?
[16:54] <X3D> isnt it a VPS control panel?
[16:55] <winut> im on osx
[16:55] <winut> what are you using?
[16:55] <winut> lol
[16:55] <winut> i'm using version -2.32 (12526)
[16:56] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: sure, but it doesn't automatically give your load balance or high-availability for http
[16:56] <winut> https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ppa
[16:56] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: especially over WAN
[16:57] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: since you can't failover an IP from one connection other to a different connection
[16:57] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: at least not typically
[16:57] <winut> however, like they said, this feature has been around for a long time
[16:57] <X3D> pmjdebruijn i know that, thats why i am asking, whats a good throttler, or splitter
[16:57] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: there is no simple fix for this
[16:57] <X3D> fail2ban is also good for my VPS?
[16:58] <pmjdebruijn> most folks use dynamic dns updates if it needs to be cheap, but that's far off from perfect
[16:58] <javier> can anyone help me get kvidtune running?
[16:58] <perlsyntax> What the differnt with gnome or kde if i use wine to install worldof warcraft?
[16:59] <perlsyntax> does it matter
[16:59] <perlsyntax> ?
[16:59] <ksx4system> how do I modify first day of week in tiny calendar started by clicking clock?
[17:00] <bjorn__> hi, after upgrading to 11.04 my spotify stoped working, sound card error. have someone other encounter similar problems?
[17:00] <perlsyntax> anyone
[17:00] <escott> perlsyntax, shouldn't make a difference
[17:01] <mordof> so.. not sure when, but the popup at the top right recently stopped showing up when i hit next for banshee to play a new track
[17:01] <mordof> i think it's using libnotify, but i'm not sure what that's called exactly
[17:01] <perlsyntax> Well when i install on gnome i had some black spot showing after it was al updated.
[17:01] <mordof> anyone know why? or how to solve this and get it back? i kinda liked it
[17:01] <X3D> pmjdebruijn, what if my internet download speed is crap?
[17:02] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: please ask question... not vague stuff
[17:02] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: what if the download is crap... and ...
[17:02] <escott> !language | X3D pmjdebruijn
[17:03] <mordof> really..?
[17:03] <X3D> what if my internet download speed is not good? will it affect my  VPS?
[17:03] <pmjdebruijn> escott: fair enough, I was just semi-qouting
[17:03] <BostX> guys can you recommend me a SW where can I design something like a bicycle?
[17:03]  * BostX became an idea
[17:03] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: why wouldn't it
[17:03] <escott> BostX, blender?
[17:04] <X3D> so you cant run a VPS with 2 mb/s download speed?
[17:04] <Zeik> Why is Ubuntu Gamers Arena currently saying that it is now MacOS software???
[17:04] <escott> pmjdebruijn, its not a big deal
[17:04] <mordof> since when is 2mb/s not good!?
[17:04] <BostX> escott, ok, thx... I'll try it
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: you can
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: depends on your workload... how many visitors etc
[17:05] <X3D> pmjdebruijn,  i was told i need at least 100mb/s download speed....
[17:05] <mordof> anyone know what the notifications in the top right (new songs, messages, etc) is called?
[17:05] <X3D> in order to run a VPS for 10 customers
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: erhm
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: yeah
[17:06] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: 10 customers on 2mbit is a bit "tight"
[17:06] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: please watch what your getting yourself into, you seems to be in way over your head at this time
[17:07] <X3D> pmjdebruijn, is it possible to share your load beetween the customers?
[17:07] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: again you are too vague... so I'm stopping now... you really first need to read up on things before you can have a purposeful conversation about this
[17:08] <bahamas> is there a keyboard shortcut for the search menu that is accessed by clicking on the icon in the top-left corner?
[17:08] <Guest31784> bought Huawei E367 Internet Device (3G e-stick), unable to install in ubuntu 10.04 AMD 64... any help ?
[17:08] <mordof> pmjdebruijn: i'm assuming load balancing, but yeah - X3D i'd say the same thing. do some research on the area before you try anything
[17:08] <wols> X3D: you don't need download speed for running servers
[17:08] <escott> bahamas, the windows key i believe
[17:08] <bahamas> escott: you are correct. thank you
[17:08] <pmjdebruijn> wols: he probably has even less upload
[17:08] <X3D> wols what do i need?
[17:09] <Guest31784>  bought Huawei E367 Internet Device (3G e-stick), unable to install in ubuntu 10.04 AMD 64... any help ? but works good in Windows.
[17:09] <javier> I am looking for ideas on how to correct a display problem i have. I used the overscan and got lines across my tv, so that didn't work. I was pointed toward xvidtune, and i can't figure out how to get it installed and run
[17:09] <pmjdebruijn> wols: and even 2mbit upload is not a lot to work with
[17:09] <mordof> a 2mb/s internet connection is likely going to have a 75/25 distribution ratio for download/upload
[17:09] <wols> X3D: a clue. and to get this clue you need to read a lot as pmjdebruijn suggested
[17:09] <javier> I have a 65 inch tv, ubuntu recognized it as 70 inch. it is a 1920x1080, but the desktop is overstretched
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> javier: isn't that just the TV "fitting", make sure your TV is set to "unscaled"
[17:10] <X3D> i know about servers, however i do not know how to load balance beetween my customers....and use some of there bandwidth instead of mine?
[17:11] <oCean> X3D: I told you before it is not an ubuntu specific technical issue that this channel can help you with.
[17:11] <LooneyLoonz> lol, sounds as if X3D is trying to do some illegal shit
[17:11] <javier> i don't know of such an option in the tv
[17:11] <wols> X3D: a customer comes to you to get bandwith. not to bring some of his own...
[17:12] <X3D> this is ubuntu specific, im using an ubun tu machine to do this
[17:12] <wols> pmjdebruijn: why? his TV probably uses HDMI
[17:12] <mordof> X3D: just because you're using an ubuntu machine does not mean it's ubuntu related
[17:12] <X3D> well then what does it mean, its windows related?
[17:12] <javier> yes, I am running an hdmi and radeon 4250
[17:13] <mordof> X3D: it's unrelated to any operating system specifically
[17:13] <pmjdebruijn> X3D: it's generic engineering question
[17:13] <oCean> X3D: it is not a specific issue. You need to read up on the subject. It's not something we can tell you in a simple howto
[17:13] <dr_willis> javier,  the nvidia settings tool has a  overscan setting i belive.  ati may have similer tool and settings.
[17:13] <X3D> POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
[17:13] <X3D> oops
[17:13] <Guest31784>  bought Huawei E367 Internet Device (3G e-stick), unable to install in ubuntu 10.04 AMD 64... any help ? but works good in Windows.
[17:13] <X3D> sorry caps
[17:13] <javier> i used the overscan, and I get lines across the tv
[17:13] <mordof> dr_willis: radeon is not nvidia...
[17:13] <mordof> oh nevermind
[17:13] <KNUBBIG> My system sometimes on shutdown crashes and gives me an error trace, how can I review that while in a running system again? And how to I get plymouth splashscreens to work again in 11.04?
[17:13] <dr_willis> mordof :)
[17:13] <mordof> i didn't finish reading, lol
[17:14] <dr_willis> mordof,  I notice i have to turn off overscanning when using a 'tv' as a monitor of the time
[17:14] <AcidRain> i have a laptop i use for recording in my studio. the sound magically stopped working. i dont even have a sound preferences in the top right corner
[17:14] <AcidRain> anyone know why this is happening?
[17:14] <Guest31784>  bought Huawei E367 Internet Device (3G e-stick), unable to install in ubuntu 10.04 AMD 64... any help ? but works good in Windows.
[17:15] <X3D> anyone here enjoy reverse engineering?
[17:15] <X3D> x86 asm?
[17:15] <auronandace> !ot | X3D
[17:15] <mordof> X3D: you aren't doing anything involving reverse engineering
[17:15] <javier> i have changed all of the settings on the tv, from just, to 16:9, and the top menu bar can't be seen and all of the other edges can't be seen
[17:15] <AcidRain> i have a laptop i use for recording in my studio. the sound magically stopped working. i dont even have a sound preferences in the top right corner
[17:15] <X3D> i know i am not
[17:16] <KNUBBIG> My system sometimes crashes on shutdown and gives me an error trace, how can I review that while in a running system again? And how do I get plymouth splashscreens to work again in 11.04?
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> Guest31784: you don't need to repeat yourself every five minutes
[17:16] <X3D> however i  am doing a project atm that involves RE
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> javier: the TV is a 1080p tv?
[17:16] <Guest31784> pmjdebruijn: some one will help me, some new joinees won't go back and check, what if he/she has the solution
[17:16] <javier> yes
[17:16] <pmjdebruijn> javier: "FullHD"
[17:17] <pmjdebruijn> Guest31784: repeat once an hour or so
[17:17] <X3D> anyone here enjoy ethical hacking?
[17:17] <oCean> X3D: ask a real ubuntu related question
[17:17] <X3D> and comp security?
[17:17] <X3D> ok
[17:17] <intrader> Anyone, I have been given an ipod - I would like to have Rhythmbox 0.13.1 installed. It momentarily shows one line in the Playlists (which I can't make out) when I connect the ipod. The Ipod icon appears in the desktop, and its DCIM folder has only photos, no music.
[17:17] <ikonia> X3D: the topic of this channel is Ubuntu support discussion.
[17:17] <auronandace> X3D: seriously, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:18] <X3D> ok
[17:18] <X3D> ill go there thanx
[17:18] <mordof> intrader: Honestly for the trouble I had with ubuntu media players, you'll more easily get it to work with a windows VM and passing the ipod through to that
[17:18] <KNUBBIG> intrader: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/get-ios4-mountsync-working-in-ubuntu.html might eventually help you, although I don#t fully understand your problem
[17:18] <mordof> intrader: my iPhone works perfectly in iTunes under my VM
[17:18] <javier> full hd yes
[17:18] <mordof> oooh
[17:18] <mordof> that might be helpful
[17:19]  * mordof investigates KNUBBIG's link
[17:19] <X3D> no one is in ubuntu offtoopi?
[17:19] <ikonia> X3D: yes there is, its #ubuntu-offtopic as the channel name
[17:19] <X3D> ok
[17:19] <X3D> now i got ya thanx
[17:19] <KNUBBIG> is it secure to install and use lightdm under 11.04?
[17:20] <mordof> grr, this guide doesn't work for the iPhone 4/iPod 4 :/
[17:20] <mordof> so much for hope, lol
[17:20] <KNUBBIG> mordof: sorry :-(
[17:20]  * mordof carries on using his VM to interact with the device
[17:20] <Guest31784> pmjdebruijn: an hour? that's too late, will increase the gap, no worries...
[17:20] <mordof> KNUBBIG: the VM pass-through with the USB device i set up works perfectly, so i'm really not concerned.. i even did an iOS format that way and it worked fine
[17:21] <intrader> mordof, KNUBBIG , from what I read in various pages, Rhythmbox should work, but it does not see the music on the ipod. I have installed iTunes on wine, and with errors reports, it does come up and is able to play its radio stations, but the ipod is not visiible.
[17:21] <mordof> intrader: *nods* i spent a lot of time fighting with both rhythmbox and banshee. the VM was simple and works for everything (if you're willing to set that up)
[17:22] <KNUBBIG> mordof: you're lucky, for me at some point, my iphone didn't want to be formatted/reset under Windows in any way. Luckily I had a Mac Mini or else I'd have had a beautifully shaped and designed brick :-) Good to hear that it works fine for you :-)
[17:22] <mordof> KNUBBIG: in a VM?
[17:22] <KNUBBIG> mordof: no, all of that were 'real' systems
[17:23] <mordof> KNUBBIG: ah
[17:23] <mordof> was gonna say it did give me some trouble, but i found out why
[17:23] <mordof> that trouble is only from being in a VM though
[17:23] <javier> ok. thank you to all for the help the past two days. I have figured it out. I had to set the scaling to the graphics processor, and underscan just a bit
[17:23] <intrader> mordof, KNUBBIG , the problem is that I don't have the installation disk for windows or Leopard, so I don't know how the VM would work for me without them.
[17:23] <mordof> ah
[17:23] <mordof> i don't think i'm allowed to say any more on that topic >.> lol
[17:23] <KNUBBIG> hehe
[17:24] <bullgard4_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf > Keyboard configuration - console: I obtained: "Looking for keymap to install; de-latin1". This is my wanted keymap. I tested it successfully. But when I rebooted, this wanted keymap has gone (lost). How to fix this?
[17:24] <intrader> mordof, KNUBBIG , what do you mean?
[17:24] <maujhsn> I am interested in booting Ubuntu from a liveCD. I want to create
[17:24] <maujhsn> a persisence image on an external Hard drive that partitioned in FAT32.
[17:24] <maujhsn> Can GPart do it?
[17:24] <pmjdebruijn> http://files.pcode.nl/temp/ubuntu-natty-intel-compiz-rounded-corner-artifact.png does anybody know whether that is a known bug?
[17:25] <mordof> pmjdebruijn: odd.. i've never seen that before
[17:25] <javier> new question. I have windows 7 on my c drive. ubuntu on another drive (d:) I download files to C: and am using xbmc on ubuntu to view them, or try to. Can I access C drive somehow.
[17:25] <mordof> pmjdebruijn: though i'm on amd
[17:25] <bullgard4_> maujhsn: Yes it can.
[17:25] <mordof> javier: sure, you can mount the entire C drive
[17:26] <mordof> javier: ubuntu has full ntfs support now
[17:26] <tensorpudding> javier: yes, it should automatically mount the drive
[17:26] <maujhsn> bullgard Have you tried this?
[17:26] <tensorpudding> javier: you will need to do some permissions fiddling
[17:26] <mordof> tensorpudding: that always gave me trouble, lol
[17:26] <javier> so in terminal I can just type 'mount c:' now
[17:26] <mordof> javier: it's not quite so simple
[17:26] <tensorpudding> mordof: i recommend downloading the ntfs configuration tool
[17:26] <pilgo> How do I make cherokee launch when my system boots-up?
[17:26] <tensorpudding> mordof: from the software center
[17:26] <bullgard4_> maujhsn:  I have used GParted often. But I have not accomplished your particular task.
[17:27] <ChesterX> hi, is it possible to give some applications priority over other regarding the bandwidth/internet connection? (in my case ff over transmission)
[17:27] <mordof> tensorpudding: ah, if i ever install an ntfs partition again i'll do that, thanks. i just ditched ntfs and brought it over to whatever ubuntu uses.. ext4
[17:27] <javier> i also have partitions on the phsyical D drive that I was planning on using for just this purpose, so I wouldn't have to mess with C
[17:28] <javier> but if I can mount C, i am happy with that too
[17:28] <pmjdebruijn> ChesterX: you can just have transmission limit it's own upload/download speed
[17:28] <tensorpudding> javier: you can mount any and all of them
[17:28] <AcidRain> i fixed my sound issue somehow
[17:28] <AcidRain> but i honestly couldnt tell you how i did it
[17:28] <mordof> question: my notifications in the top right have stopped from banshee, and i have no idea why or how to enable them again. anyone know anything on this or how to debug/troubleshoot?
[17:28] <Dulak> ChesterX: you can use the tool 'tc' to make different classes of traffic, it's called traffic control or quality of service
[17:28] <mordof> AcidRain: ah, that's never fun.. glad you found out, i had no idea :\ heh
[17:28] <AcidRain> gnome-volume-control. and i changed the driver from one thing back to its original, and it started working
[17:28] <pmjdebruijn> mordof: is opensource 3D for ATi stable these days? I still have a Radeon 4350 on the shelf somewhere...
[17:28] <nibbler_> i was always using VLC, and since my last update (general update, thing it was even 10.11 to 11.4) vlc plays the audio offest by ca.2s. even after removing ~/.local/share/vlc - any hint?
[17:28] <ChesterX> pmjdebruijn, I know that - I was rather thinking about the number of connection (transmission is already up/dn slowly)
[17:29] <mordof> pmjdebruijn: that ihave no idea.. i have a gtx 460xt
[17:29] <pmjdebruijn> oh
[17:29] <pmjdebruijn> ok
[17:29] <Guest31784>  bought Huawei E367 Internet Device (3G e-stick), unable to install in ubuntu 10.04 AMD 64... any help ? but works good in Windows.
[17:29] <ChesterX> Dulak, i ll look into that
[17:29] <AcidRain> now i have to ghetto rig a cron job to run gnome-volume-control then kill the pidof on every restart
[17:29] <maujhsn> bullgard4  The HD is a FAT32 system. GPart can do alot of things i skeptical about because of FAT32.
[17:29] <AcidRain> :(
[17:29] <AcidRain> but its cool
[17:29] <mordof> pmjdebruijn: my last ati card let me down and nvidia has always worked better for me
[17:29] <krazykrivda> My ount for my vfat partition is shows this: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002) .. but I do not actually have rw access.. even as root.. what can I do?
[17:30] <mordof> grrrr, i want my music notifications back! lol
[17:30] <javier> ok. i will do some research on how to do it. I luckily have a laptop that I use for experimenting, and the htpc I use once I figure it out. Thanks all!
[17:30] <bullgard4_> maujhsn:  Yes. FAT32 is not optimum for this purpose. I have reformatted one of my external HDDs from FAT32 to ext3.
[17:31] <slgs> The sound is not working on my macbook pro 5-5 with lucid lynx. I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu website but have had no success so far.
[17:31] <gulzar> I downloaded a video from youtube. I want to use it in ppt for my college presentation but libreoffice (lb) is not saving the video even after adding it from insert menu. I think the problem is in the format. IF so then which format should I use? Pitivi is installed.
[17:32] <maujhsn> bullgard4 Now you are telling me something that I wanted to hear! :)
[17:32] <bullgard4_> hm
[17:33] <maujhsn> bullgard4 I have added you to friends list. THANKS!
[17:35] <gulzar> urgent....I downloaded a video from youtube and want to use it in ppt for my college presentation but libreoffice  is not saving the video even after adding it from insert menu. I think the problem is in the format. If so then which format should I use? Pitivi is installed. If not then how to do it?
[17:35] <krazykrivda> I keep getting disconnected! ugh..  My mount for my vfat partition is shows this: /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002) .. but I do not actually have rw access.. even as root.. what can I do?
[17:35] <escott> gulzar, are you sure the ppt file would include the video file itself and not just a link to it
[17:36] <bullgard4_> maujhsn:  (*smile*)
[17:36] <matrixa1> krazykrivda, nosuid means no inaries can run as root
[17:36] <matrixa1> binaries*
[17:36] <gulzar>  escott: sure.. ppt is 4.9mb and video is 5mb so total is around 9mb. but the final is 4.9 only. And I cannot see the video in slide. it shows blank
[17:36] <nmnama> hello, i'm about to set up mutt + msmtp to send mail through hotmail, but at the moment i keep getting a "SASL authentication failed" - thought my configs seem to be correct: password, account name, domain name etc. are ok... - what could i be doing wrong?
[17:36] <maujhsn> bullgard4 OK with me!
[17:37] <gulzar>  escott: I want the complete video in it....
[17:37] <krazykrivda> matrixa1: i don't care to much about binaries.. this partition merely has my files/docs/pictures/etc on it.. or r u saying that it cannot allow me to cp/mb/etc files?
[17:37] <matrixa1> krazykrivda, cp is a binary you run in order to copy something, I assume it's nosuid blocking it
[17:38] <matrixa1> try removing nosuid
[17:38] <skegeek> is it possible to setup a hosting environment (on a desktop installation), and rsync to a VPS - excluding the "desktop" software from the sync?
[17:38] <escott> gulzar, you could try using ffmpeg or mencoder to convert the file to another format, but i have no idea what format would work better
[17:38] <Drummer> hello?
[17:38] <Drummer> is here someone?4
[17:38] <netking> yes
[17:39] <skegeek> Or is creating a seperate server install/configuration the only option?
[17:39] <Drummer> are you german?
[17:39] <netking> n
[17:39] <krazykrivda> matrixa1: my understanding is that nosuid meant you coudln't run a binary FROM that dir?  either way.. u believe changing it to suid will work?
[17:39] <oCean> !de | Drummer
[17:39] <gulzar>  escott: that's the prob.... avi becomes 90mb and small formats are also not supported... It's the format problem. But which one?
[17:39] <matrixa1> krazykrivda, no, just remove nosuid such that:  /dev/sda5 on /mnt/FILES type vfat (rw,nodev,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002)
[17:39] <Drummer> gibt es einen kanal um einfach zu chatten?
[17:40] <d34dly51l3nc3> #makzcyber
[17:40] <rumpe1> Drummer, #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[17:40] <escott> krazykrivda, just remove the flag. nosuid should prevent setuid and setgid bits from working that is all
[17:40] <deepakg92> join #gsocindia
[17:40] <urlin2u> gulzar, are you sure libreoffice will run on the college computer, or are you using your own.
[17:40] <krazykrivda> matrixa1: i was using fstab.. this is the line out of it: /dev/sda5 	/mnt/FILES 	vfat defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002 0 0
[17:40] <escott> krazykrivda, matrixa1 nodev implies nosuid.
[17:41] <gulzar> urlin2u: converted the file into MSoffice
[17:41] <jellow> Is there a torrenting app that has VPN support ?
[17:41] <escott> krazykrivda, matrixa1 oops sorry reading some grepped lines together that don't go together
[17:41] <matrixa1> escott, are you sure? I thought noauto implied noexec, nosuid, nodev.
[17:41] <slgs> The sound is not working on my macbook pro 5-5 with lucid lynx. I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu website but have had no success so far. I've been trying to fix it for several days. I've just installed ubuntu.
[17:41] <gulzar> urlin2u: but the prob is with the video. With it the show will be perfect