[00:52] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: we'll still need someone else (dholbach?) to review yuyo, but have you addressed the things I pointed out?
[00:52] <cyphermox> I'd be ready to look at another one ;)
[00:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I'm just pushing a pull-request to the upstream git repo.
[00:53] <cyphermox> oh cool.
[00:53] <cyphermox> that will make the rules file simpler
[00:53] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Indeed.
[01:09] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Yuyo pushed upstream. Contacted Sam, he has some other fixes to apply.
[01:09] <cyphermox> cool
[01:09] <flexiondotorg> So, I think next up is ubuntu-mate-artwork
[01:09] <cyphermox> great.
[01:09] <flexiondotorg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-artwork
[02:47] <flexiondotorg> While we wait for GitHub to sync to LP, maybe the grub theme is next?
[02:48] <flexiondotorg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate
[06:40] <pitti> Good morning
[06:58] <darkxst> pitti, hi, still no luck with systemd boot hang, invoke-rc never returns so ||true isnt helping
[07:07] <pitti> darkxst: (OTP, brb)
[07:10] <mgedmin> who maintains ubuntu-release-upgrader?  http://pad.lv/1417880 is a papercut, IMHO (easy to fix, annoying to many people)
[07:11] <pitti> darkxst: argh, invoke-rc.d is blocking? we have two patches which are supposed to avoid that, but perhaps that happens too late for them to apply
[07:11] <pitti> darkxst: incidentally that's something I'm just discussing on the upstream list..
[07:14] <pitti> darkxst: this should help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10048858/  ; not a complete fix yet, but at least it should avoid the hang; I think it should also make the || true unnecessary
[07:16] <pitti> darkxst: followed up to the bug
[07:17] <darkxst> pitti, ok, will try it out in a bit, have to pop out to shops first
[07:17] <pitti> darkxst: thanks; this is quite a tricky problem unfortunately, so thanks for your patience
[07:30] <slangasek> xnox: hi, hadn't you at some point had a patch related to enabling i386 ovmf builds?  I don't find it in the edk2 bug report (bug #1272434) or in the Debian bts
[07:31] <slangasek> xnox: I'm updating to a new upstream commit of edk2 for arm64 support, and was hoping to spare myself the pain of going through the requisite packaging changes if you'd already done so
[07:36] <darkxst> pitti, ok it did boot now
[07:37] <pitti> darkxst: that's with --no-block?
[07:37] <darkxst> pitti, yes with you --no-block patch
[07:37] <darkxst> although I still had the || true in samba hook as well
[07:39] <pitti> darkxst: that wouldn't be necessary with the --no-block fix (I think), but with a slighly more correct fix it's still the right thing to do
[07:45] <darkxst> pitti, right, I guess a hook shouldnt cause the unit to fail
[07:45] <pitti> darkxst: it's not the unit; the problem is that a failed invoke-rc.d reload (because smbd isn't running you can't reload it) breaks DHCP
[07:46] <pitti> darkxst: as for some weird reason this is a DHCP enter hook, not an exit hook
[07:46] <pitti> and if the enter hook fails, the actual DHCP isn't done
[08:11] <darkxst> pitti, I guess samba needs to export a dhcp server over netbios or something?
[08:11] <pitti> darkxst: yeah, perhaps; for now I assume that it being an enter hook is intended
[08:13] <dholbach> good morning
[08:18] <pitti> darkxst: I looked at this again, and I think the || true was a red herring; I thought I had DHCP failing on a hook that exits 1 yesterday, but I can't reproduce this
[08:18] <pitti> darkxst: so dropping the || true should be fine
[08:18]  * pitti finds debian bug 652942 which is the same issue
[08:45] <Noskcaj> Can someone please look at bug 1417253
[08:53] <pitti> dpm: ah, thanks for the l10n-stats heads-up!
[08:53] <pitti> dpm: once it's all there, I'll adjust langpack-o-matic accordingly
[08:53] <dpm> pitti, yw. ack, sounds great!
[09:54] <Saviq> doko_, hey, not sure if it matters, but I was unable to reproduce the gcc failure locally (except once when it rebooted my phone)
[09:54] <Saviq> doko_, which is why I did not submit any preprocessed source, was hoping you could get that from a builder
[09:55] <cjwatson> Saviq: We can't extract anything from builders.
[09:56] <cjwatson> Saviq: Have you tried on porter-armhf?
[09:56] <pitti> well, you could abuse the build log by cat'ing stuff
[09:56] <cjwatson> Sure
[09:56] <cjwatson> But it's probably easier to reproduce on a porter box
[09:56] <pitti> (not nice if the stuff you are cat'ing is large, though)
[09:57] <Saviq> cjwatson, not sure what porter-armhf is
[09:57] <pitti> *nod*, just mentioning the last resort; I've had some cases where stuff wasn't reproducible on porter boxes
[09:57] <cjwatson> You don't know about porter boxes? *blink*
[09:57] <cjwatson> https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/ISO/BuildInfrastructure/PorterBoxes
[09:57]  * cjwatson upgrades the relevant chroot
[09:58] <pitti> I wish they had a sensible schroot setup, but otherwise they are great indeed
[09:59] <cjwatson> Yeah, I have an RT in for that
[09:59] <cjwatson> One of these days
[09:59]  * Saviq pubkey-denied :/
[10:00] <cjwatson> Ask IS to add you to the porting_team group.  All technical staff in UE should be in that AFAIK ...
[10:06] <xnox> slangasek: i have some refactoring done to support alt builds.
[10:06] <xnox> slangasek: however, efi-shell does not have gcc assembly files ported to compile for ia32 with gcc compiler (MSVC only compiler)
[10:07] <xnox> and i got disappoint.
[10:10] <slangasek> Saviq: separately, you should be aware that doko is already working on using the hand-cranked armhf porter box to try to debug your recent gcc ICE so throwing more logins at the problem is unlikely to resolve it more quickly
[10:11] <Saviq> slangasek, understood, he did put the bug in Incomplete and asked for preprocessed sources, so wasn't sure whose court the ball was in
[10:11] <slangasek> Saviq: ah - actually the machine is currently idle, so we can try to get a reproducer on there.  however it is a panda
[10:12] <Saviq> slangasek, I'll try again on my phone here, prolly faster than a panda
[10:12] <slangasek> ok
[10:13] <Saviq> I *think* when I tried before I might not have been using the new gcc, only realized today the silo PPAs have proposed enabled
[10:14] <cjwatson> Saviq: the new gcc is in the release pocket anyway
[10:15] <slangasek> correct
[10:17] <Saviq> cjwatson, yeah, I know, just saying that might be why I wasn't able to repro locally yesterday
[10:18] <cjwatson> slangasek: really?  the relevant chroot in the porter box doesn't have anything like unity8's build-deps installed - I'm putting those in place at the moment
[10:19] <slangasek> cjwatson: right, perhaps he didn't actually get past the point of complaining to me that shedir was still the porter box ;P
[10:35]  * cjwatson tries a build on shedir, since apparently nobody else is
[10:57] <cjwatson> doko,Saviq,slangasek: bug updated with the usual stuff from README.Bugs
[10:57] <Saviq> cjwatson, thanks
[12:22] <caribou> tkamppeter: do you have time to sponsor a fix I have for CUPS : bug #1352809
[12:22] <caribou> or anyone who feels like uploading cups
[12:38] <pitti> darkxst: still here by chance?
[12:41] <tkamppeter> caribou, no problem, I can do it.
[12:42] <caribou> tkamppeter: I extracted & adapted only the fix for the CUPS_SERVER override. Details are in the comments with reference to the upstream bug
[12:48] <tkamppeter> caribou, OK, fix is simple will add it to current Debian and Vivid, via Debian GIT repo.
[12:49] <caribou> tkamppeter: ah good; I intended to do a reportbug on it (didn't know you were on the debian side)
[12:55] <caribou> tkamppeter: thanks. Once it gets in vivid I'll SRU to trusty & Utopic
[12:58] <slangasek> xnox: can you send me a pointer to whatever your refactoring was to support alt builds?  I need to reconcile it with dannf's requests for arm64 support
[12:59] <xnox> slangasek: ok.
[12:59] <xnox> slangasek: not asap.
[12:59] <slangasek> ok
[13:00] <slangasek> xnox: I'll hold off on uploading until I can take a look at your proposal; I don't want to reorganize this stuff in the archive more than once
[13:02] <slangasek> Saviq: added a suggestion of a possible unity8 temporary workaround to the bug report fyi
[13:02] <Saviq> slangasek, thanks
[13:03] <Saviq> will test in a moment
[13:14] <Saviq> slangasek, this seems to get us through indeed, thanks a bunch
[13:14]  * Saviq runs to prep an MP
[14:33] <loin> hi, is there a easy way to build a executable on a newer ubuntu that will run on older debians? currently it says that my glibc is too old when trying to run on older systems. when i objdump i find out that it uses memcpy from GLIBC_2.14 instead of using the memcpy from an older version. i don't want to use hacks such as __asm__(".symver memcpymemcpy@GLIBC_2.2.5"); in my c code
[14:34] <mgedmin> loin, pbuilder or sbuilder can be helpful there, AFAIU
[14:36] <loin> mgedmin: is this even worth bothering with? should i just install a older ubuntu and have the older glibc natively?
[14:37] <mgedmin> these tools create a chroot with a minimal older ubuntu/debian installation that you can use to build binaries compatible with those versions
[14:37] <rbasak> loin: build it on a much older release maybe? I would use sbuild - it's much easier than installing an older Ubuntu, quicker once set up and easily repeatable for easier developer iteration.
[14:37] <mgedmin> and you can have many chroots for many versions
[14:52] <cjwatson> loin: I agree with mgedmin and rbasak.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[14:53] <loin> thanks cjwatson, i'm still investigating
[14:55] <cjwatson> in general new libc is compatible with binaries built against old libc but not necessarily vice versa.  hacking around with symver is a recipe for weird failures and horrible confusion.
[14:56] <loin> cjwatson: that's why i'm not doing it
[14:56] <loin> wish there was a simpler way, though
[14:57] <cjwatson> sbuild is really easy once you absorb the capital cost of setting it up.
[14:57] <rbasak> mk-sbuild helps with that. Although I feel it could be improved by requiring less stuff, it isn't too bad.
[14:58] <cjwatson> and if you aren't doing things that are in the form of source packages, then setting up sbuild involves setting up schroot instances for the relevant releases, which you can use in isolation
[14:58] <pitti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild FTR
[14:58] <cjwatson> linked above :)
[14:59] <pitti> ah sorry, missed that
[15:03] <loin> thanks guys, this has been helpful
[15:15] <mterry> @pilot in
[15:20] <rbasak> I'll soon be uploading a new src:mysql-5.6 that takes over some binary packages (eg. mysql-common) from src:mysql-5.5.
[15:21] <rbasak> Is there anything special I need to do for this? For example, do I need to upload a new src:mysql-5.5 that drops mysql-common? Or will the new one just take over?
[15:21] <pitti> rbasak: the new one will take over
[15:21] <rbasak> OK, thanks!
[15:21] <pitti> rbasak: i. e. if multiple sources build a binary foo, the one with the highest version number wins
[15:21] <pitti> rbasak: that said, we should still clean up the old sources of course
[15:22] <pitti> but nothing bad should happen
[15:22] <rbasak> That makes sense. Yeah - the old src:mysql-5.5 will need to be deleted afterwards.
[15:24] <cjwatson> yeah, we should clean up the old one not least because it will be impossible to reupload it without removing those binaries
[15:33] <flexiondotorg_> Hi
[15:34] <flexiondotorg_> cyphermox, Thanks for everything yesterday.
[15:34] <flexiondotorg_> I'm going to try and clean up some more packages.
[15:34] <flexiondotorg_> cyphermox, When you have the time let me know and I'll suggest the next package for assessment 😃
[15:35] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg_: it will take me a bit
[15:35] <cyphermox> but if you have time to bug dholbach for the second review you need that could work in the meantime ;)
[15:35] <flexiondotorg_> No problem. I leanrt enough yesterday to hopefully make some corrections myself.
[15:35] <flexiondotorg_> dholbach, How are you fixed today?
[15:36] <Unit193> cyphermox: Anything new for NM?  Chance of it in vivid?
[15:36] <flexiondotorg_> dholbach, Do you have time to look at some packages that will need uploading into the official archive?
[15:36] <dholbach> no, not today I'm afraid
[15:36] <flexiondotorg_> dholbach, OK.
[15:37] <dholbach> if you want, you can subscribe me to the bug or MP and I can take a look at it tomorrow if nobody beats me to it
[15:37] <cyphermox> Unit193: NM <IP_ADDRESS> is in vivid barring one bug if you paired a bluetooth phone and installed the ubutnu-desktop-next metapackage,
[15:38] <Unit193> cyphermox: Great!  I presume you saw 1.0.0 hit exp?
[15:38] <cyphermox> dholbach: thanks, we can ask any other MOTU too, it's for landing new packages
[15:38] <cyphermox> Unit193: yes
[15:38] <dholbach> brilliant, thanks
[15:38] <cyphermox> Unit193: just have no time just now to prepare it, and it would take time to update the patches, do the testing for everything, etc.
[15:38] <cyphermox> maybe off hours, later this week? :)
[15:39] <Unit193> Yes, understandable.  .10 is the one I'm looking forward to.
[15:39] <cyphermox> it's already landed, you can feel free to play with it ;)
[17:11] <arges> infinity: any objections/issues with sru-releasing all the xserver/xorg stuff?
[17:16] <dobey> the lts-utopic xorg?
[17:27] <dupingping> how can i get full window image includes it's decoration in opengl plugin and convert it to memory buffer?
[17:53] <pitti> darkxst: ok, afer pulling out my hair for another day, I now followed up to bug 1417010 again; I'd be grateful if you could test this again
[18:24] <mterry_> @pilot out
[18:25] <mterry> @pilot out
[18:51] <cyphermox> xnox: hey, would you happen to have time for a code-review for ubiquity?
[19:01] <smoser> infinity, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10058049/
[19:01] <smoser> does that make sense?
[19:01] <smoser> 2 of the cells have no memory.
[19:02] <smoser> (seeing this because openstack gets a 'None' for memory and tries to divide it)
[19:19] <system0x01>  I consider squash some of the bugs. Which tool/tools will be appropriate  for that purpose
[19:26] <cyphermox> system0x01: I suggest you start by reading http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/introduction-to-ubuntu-development.html; section 2 will tell you all you need to know about the tools suggested
[20:47] <darkxst> pitti, updated "service" script boots fine
[21:41] <flexiondotorg_> Trevinho, Are you available for a quick question?
[22:32] <bdmurray> pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/apport/bug-1084979/+merge/248685
[22:32] <bdmurray> pitti: Could you have a look at that during your work day?
[23:38] <sarnold> "Does Ubuntu have some piuparts facility somewhere that can be integrated with PPA so new builds would be automatically tested for install/upgrade/remove?" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1417917


[22:15] <maujhsn> Can anybody give me some advice to this issue?  "http://pastebin.com/vkRp9Kec".
[22:15] <darthrobot`> [404] Title: [Pastebin.com Unknown Paste ID]
[22:27] <nhaines> I don't understand what makes it cryptoanalysis.
[22:35] <maujhsn> darthrobot  http://pastebin.com/vkRp9Kec
[22:35] <darthrobot`> Title: [audio-cryptoanalysis - Pastebin.com]
[22:36] <maujhsn> nhaines You haven't listened to the tapes! I have made this judgement after listening to the tapes many times!
[22:36] <nhaines> Okay.
[22:37] <troyready> Trolling?
[22:37] <pleia2> o_O
[22:37] <nhaines> So hey, I have a couple of Official Ubuntu Books that were gifted to the LoCo by Pearson.  Does anyone in the LA/OC/SD area have any use for one?
[22:37] <pleia2> if you're in norcal and want one, lmk
[22:38] <pleia2> I drank a $9 glass of juice
[22:39] <nhaines> pleia2: did it have gold flakes in it?
[22:39] <pleia2> should have for $9 :)
[22:39] <nhaines> :)
[22:39] <pleia2> some fancy apple-lemon-ginger thing
[22:39] <pleia2> suppose it's not worse than paying that much for a cocktail
[22:40] <nhaines> Depends on how tingly you felt afterwards.
[22:40] <pleia2> hehe
[22:40] <pleia2> I'll just call it my workday cocktail
[22:42] <nhaines> I had a frozen lime margarita for breakfast yesterday because we were out of orange juice and the margarita had 1% lime juice, which means it was healthy.
[22:43] <nhaines> Nothing like working from home. :P
[22:43] <pleia2> lol
[22:43] <pleia2> I didn't leave my bed this morning until the battery died on my laptop (by which time it was no longer morning)
[22:44] <nhaines> Living the dream, amirite?
[22:44] <pleia2> yup
[23:08] <nhaines> Hmm.
[23:08] <nhaines> It's becoming clear that I have more work to do this week than I'm actually willing to do.  :P
[23:20]  * nhaines cracks down and works anyway.


[11:36] <jm2> buenos dias!
[11:36] <jm2> good morning!
[21:48] <BobJonkman1> Hello aruna!
[21:48] <aruna> Hey.. Hiya.. :-)
[21:48] <BobJonkman1> In reply to you Q about ISPs, I'm perfectly happy with Teksavvy.
[21:49] <BobJonkman1> I'm not in the best place for high speed; only getting 3 Mbps on a 5 Mbps service. But that's Bell's fault, not Teksavvy
[21:49] <BobJonkman1> I expect you'll get better speeds in Toronto
[21:50] <BobJonkman1> And Teksavvy service has been good. Can
[21:50] <BobJonkman1> Can
[21:50] <BobJonkman1> Can't really tell because I almost never call them.  That's a good sign
[21:51] <aruna> Ok great I will definietly explore teksavvy and possibly change over soon, thank's. Where ARE you anyways ? Kitchner or Waterloo ?
[21:51] <BobJonkman1> Neither.  I'm slightly north, in Elmira
[21:52] <BobJonkman1> You might want to check Teksavvy's cable offering too.  Even faster than DSL, but now Teksavvy has to deal with Rogers infrastructure
[21:55] <aruna> cable would be nice but can't afford it, will go through what teksavvy has to offer and see ya ? I think your roughly 123km away from Toronto ?
[21:57] <aruna> Since you liked the cube I am looking for a drum machine I ported sometime back, will send when I locate it. Something they can actually use and have fun with..
[21:57] <aruna> Too many hard disks lying around :-)
[22:09] <BobJonkman1> I think 123km is probably an overestimate.  But maybe 123km taking the scenic route
[22:14] <aruna> I just google mapped and checked coz I had no idea where Elmira was and thanks for making me realize OSM was out there
[23:53] <BobJonkman1> Less than 123 km according to http://osrm.at/4BE
[23:53] <BobJonkman1> But not by much
[23:55] <azend> BobJonkman1: hard core foss user
[23:55] <azend> I approve :)
[23:55] <BobJonkman1> :)
[23:55] <BobJonkman1> Gotta let people know it's available.
[23:55] <BobJonkman1> Nobody need be beholden to commercial content providers
[23:58] <BobJonkman1> azend, are you following the SFD conversation on the KWLUG mailing list>
[23:58] <azend> No
[23:58] <azend> I don't happen to be on their mailing list
[23:58] <BobJonkman1> http://kwlug.org/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/2013-August/010799.html
[23:59] <BobJonkman1> Paul Nijjar is trying to set a date for the Kitchener SFD; lots of discussion from  Guelhite John Kerr
[23:59] <BobJonkman1> Guelphite, that is.  Maybe Guelphonian


[08:39] <cff> How do I log out of Ubuntu One Desktop client and login with a different account?
[08:40] <cff> I've changed emails and my previous login doesn't work
[08:40] <cff> need to login with the new email
[08:40] <cff> but I can't find where!
[08:41] <cff> Remove device gives AttributeError "'QGroupBox' object has no attribute 'startswith'"
[09:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy For Pete’s Sake Day! :-D
[14:35] <dobey> cff: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/what-does-the-root_mismatch-error-mean/
[16:18] <noodles775> 13


 uh yea
 i have an RTX 2070 Super, however a fresh install of ubtuntu 21.10 is running the GPU driver under Mesa LLVMPipe. Even though i installed the 470 NVIDIA series driver directly from the panel. I think this is a kernel issue, and Steam and PRotonDB confirm the same as ive said, The logs i have collected also say that NVIDIA driver is not currently in use, however installed.
[05:38] <guiverc> @ShirokiStreams, this isn't a support channel but quality; ie. related to Quality Assurance testing of 20.04.4 (due out next), or jammy/22.04 due out in April; try Ubuntu Support (#ubuntu)
 my bad
[05:40] <guiverc> @ShirokiStreams  https://t.me/UbuntuTelegramGroup for Unofficial support on Telegram or see https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/community-support/709 for official support channels


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[00:51] <ali_> heelo
[00:51] <ali_> hello
[00:52] <ali_> is their any one who can help me in recovrey of hard drive in kubuntu
[00:54] <ali_> hello room
[00:54] <ali_> any one here
[01:16] <ali_> hello
[01:36] <vbachtold> Is there a way to stream video from computer to tv using a wireless connection. I hate to boot in to Windows every time I need to do this
[01:43] <dacresni> hey, is there a software update button in Muon?
[02:25] <ghostcart> does anyone know where I can find cint?
[02:29] <ali_> is any where here ???
[02:30] <Daskreech> Maybe
[02:30] <Daskreech> Is it important someone be here?
[02:30] <ghostcart> well.. to answer a question?
[04:16] <ali__> hello
[04:16] <ali__> any one here ???
[04:16] <ali__> hello
[04:17] <ali__> any one here >>>
[04:17] <ali__> from last 5 hours iam waiting for rep;y
[04:40] <Daskreech> hi
[04:41] <Daskreech> ali__: What is the question?
[04:41] <ali__> no question
[04:41] <Daskreech> Oh
[04:41] <Daskreech> so what reply
[04:42] <ali__> my question was how to install skype ??
[04:43] <Daskreech> ali__: what have you tried?
[04:44] <ali__> kubuntu 11.4
[04:44] <Daskreech> ali__: Most people just go to http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ and download it
[04:45] <ali__> and im searching for it but i cant find it in the software center
[04:45] <Daskreech> ali__: Skype doesn't allow itself to be in the software center
[04:51] <Daskreech> ali__: Let me know if you need any help
[04:51] <ali__> one last problem
[04:52] <ali__> how to use yahoo video chat in kubuntu ??
[04:53] <Daskreech> ali__: Hmm I'll have to check
[04:54] <Daskreech> I used to use Kopete but somethings have changed since then
[04:54] <Daskreech> And Yahoo is actually pretty good at doing that.
[04:55] <Daskreech> ali__: My eventual solution was to run Windows in a Virtualbox with Yahoo. but that does take some RAM requirements
[04:55] <Daskreech> I don't know if your computer would be up to it
[04:56] <ali__> i have 3.4 processor and 1gb ram
[04:56] <ali__> whats the soulution ??
[04:57] <Daskreech> do you have a windows XP cd ?
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> dudes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> !skype
[05:00] <Daskreech> Ah of course
[05:00] <Daskreech> Should be interesting to see how this will work out now that Microsoft owns Skype
[05:05] <accipter> on 11.04, kickoff freezes (opened by clicking on the k button) for like 10 seconds
[05:05] <well_laid_lawn> it does? it'll at least be harder to get working then
[05:06] <accipter> during this time i can still run things with alt-f2
[05:08] <well_laid_lawn> tried turning some effects off ?
[05:08] <accipter> i disabled all effects
[05:08] <accipter> but i probably need to relog for that to take effect, correct?
[05:09] <Daskreech> ali__: that was for you
[05:10] <ali__> i have wine but its not acess able
[05:10] <Daskreech> ali__: No windows XP cd
[05:10] <ali__> yes i have
[05:10] <ali__> win 7
[05:11] <Daskreech> Windows XP is far better for this venture :)
[05:11] <ali__> buut i hate microsoft
[05:12] <ali__> it means u have no solution for my problem
[05:12] <well_laid_lawn> try ekiga then
[05:12] <well_laid_lawn> !ekiga
[05:13] <Daskreech> ali__: I think Kopete can do Yahoo Chat but it's a bare minimum of being able to see the person
[05:13] <Daskreech> should get better but all development on it was paused to help with Telepathy
[05:13] <accipter> well_laid_lawn: kickoff is the right term, correct? I am just suprised I don't see anything about the problem on google
[05:13] <Daskreech> Even so if you want all the features for Yahoo Chat a seamless virtual box solution would work out the best
[05:14] <ali__> whats virtual box ??? how ttto use it ??
[05:14] <Daskreech> accipter: kickoff is the name of the menu. You can switch it to another one if you don't like it/it's giving problems
[05:14] <well_laid_lawn> accipter: I call it kickoff. it might be your graphics or something working hard in the background
[05:14] <Daskreech> !virtualbox
[05:14] <Daskreech> ali__: ^^
[05:15] <Daskreech> ali__: It's a virtual computer so you can run a computer inside of your computer
[05:16] <accipter> well_laid_lawn: nepomuk is indexing somethings, but the menu takes like 10 seconds to appear whereas the alt-f2 run menu has no delay
[05:16] <ali__> can i get it through apt-get
[05:18] <accipter> ali__: read all of the information, the package is called virtualbox-ose and you will have to have a copy of windows to install onto the virtual machine
[05:20] <ali__> thanks alot
[05:21] <ali__> let me learn about virtual box  details and use
[05:21] <ali__> thanks
[05:22] <Daskreech> ali__: you can then run windows as an application inside of Linux (and of course install any programs you want in there). It does eat up some RAM though so I would suggest WindowsXP then stripping it down to almost nothing
[06:24] <jack__> hello
[06:24] <jack__> im jack
[06:25] <jack__> and im new here
[06:31] <TheLastProject> Seems Silverlight is still a disaster =/
[06:31] <TheLastProject> Won't run under Wine under any circumstance, Moonlight is as outdated as can be... =/
[07:15] <madspook> hi
[07:17] <chinesebird> hello
[08:16] <deepesh> hello!!!
[08:17] <deepesh> can anybody help me with configuring wireless devices on Kubuntu??
[08:19] <deepesh> Anybody there
[08:19] <deepesh> ??
[08:19] <deepesh> Am new to Kubuntu.....
[08:19] <deepesh> Just installed it
[08:20] <deepesh> but couldnt configure my wireless modem with the system....
[08:28] <valorie> deepesh: I don't know much, but this link might help:
[08:28] <valorie> !wireless
[08:49] <deepesh> thanks valorie
[08:49] <deepesh> sorry i was out attending a phonecall
[08:49] <valorie> np
[08:49] <valorie> that's how IRC works sometimes -- with severe lags
[08:50] <deepesh> oh ok
[08:50] <deepesh> am just checking out the link u suggested.....
[08:51] <deepesh> actually i have a wifi modem at home and I have a wifi device installed on my Desktop
[09:20] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me?
[09:23] <ubuntu__> i have a thumbdrive and it cannot mount.
[09:23] <ubuntu__> it has data in there..
[09:24] <ubuntu__> i had tried open it using windows and windows give message the drive need to format..
[09:24] <ubuntu__> i mount it using ubuntu and ubuntu cannot detect it
[09:25] <ubuntu__> when i using partition editor it detect my thumbdrive?
[09:25] <ubuntu__> what should i do, i have important data in there..
[09:47] <markit> hi, is it just me or LibreOffice tooltips are in dark background so you can really hardly read them?
[09:47] <markit> any tip to fix this issue?
[09:47] <markit> kubuntu 11.04 64 here
[10:57] <well_laid_lawn> markit: try a different theme would be the easiest option
[11:04] <markit> well_laid_lawn: but is it a bug? I would love to stick with the default theme, so people can easely recognize the installation
[11:05] <well_laid_lawn> it sounds likee it might be your monitor setup if it is  with the default theme
[11:09] <markit> I've this on many pc, also in a vm
[11:10] <markit> I've changed from oxygen to pastik, and things have become even worse
[11:12] <markit> oxygen-cold fixes
[11:19] <cojack> hello guys
[11:19] <cojack> package kdepimlibs is using boost cpp libs
[11:19] <cojack> and is not in depends list
[11:37] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:50] <markit> btw, update topic, oneric beta1 has been released
[12:32] <joost_> exit
[12:34] <MisterX-2011> hi all!
[12:34] <MisterX-2011> anybody uses samba4?
[13:09] <luoshu> hi
[13:10] <george_> Hello. Today I've run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and got the following: W: Falhou ao buscar gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum incorreto
[13:10] <george_> Any help?
[13:11] <OerHeks> george_, try update once again ?
[13:11] <ionite> i've purged KDE wallet but why am I prompted again and again for Kwallet passsword?
[13:12] <george_> Hello OerHeks. I've already did that, several times and the issue remains.
[13:12] <OerHeks> ionite, kwallet stores your passwords, now you are in manually mode, so every time you have to type it again.
[13:13] <ionite> OerHeks: so what should i do?
[13:15] <OerHeks> george_, are you behind a proxy ?
[13:16] <OerHeks> ionite, now you know what KDE wallet is for, i suggest reinstall kde wallet ?
[13:16] <ionite> OerHeks: reinstall and uninstall>
[13:17] <ionite> ?
[13:18] <george_> ionite: It's probably better if you install and then just disable kwallet.
[13:18] <OerHeks> ionite, why did you uninstall in the first place ?
[13:18] <ionite> george_: why so? why can't i purge it @ terminal completely?
[13:18] <ionite> OerHeks: it's useless.
[13:20] <ionite> OerHeks: done. thanks.
[13:20] <george_> OerHeks: I'm connect to a router, wich I can't configure. Besides, this is the very first time this happens, I've been updating with no trouble so far.
[13:20] <ionite> george_: done. thanks.
[13:20] <OerHeks> ionite, oke, have fun.
[13:21] <OerHeks> george_, i am not sure what to do now to fix this :(
[13:22] <george_> OerHeks: Oh, ok.... thanks for you time. Guess I'll check again later..
[13:22] <James147> george_: what does the error actually say?
[13:23] <OerHeks> george_, maybe this page is any help > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[13:24] <OerHeks> James147, bad hash > W: Falhou ao buscar gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum incorreto
[13:24] <george_> James147: It says: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-updates_universe_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch
[13:24] <george_> OerHeks::)
[13:25] <James147> george_: try changing your mirrors and/or running sudo apt-get clean
[13:25] <OerHeks> yes alt-get clean is one of the answers on that page :-)
[13:31] <george_> OerHeks and James147: I'm trying method one as depicted on that page...
[13:31] <OerHeks> george_, let us know if it solves the problem.
[13:36] <george_> OerHeks and James147: It worked. Thank you both for your help!
[13:37] <george_> OerHeks and James147: Now I wonder why that happened in the first place...
[13:38] <OerHeks> sometimes one bit goes wrong.
[13:39] <OerHeks> george_, as last test, you could test your ram with the live cd, if this happenes again.
[13:40] <george_> OerHeks: Whoa, test my ram? Hum... it seems to be something serious...
[13:41] <OerHeks> george_, only if this occures again, i wouldn't worry about a one time failure
[13:42] <george_> OerHeks: Hum.... Ok, I guess. Well, I've to go now. Thanks again. Good bye.
[13:42] <OerHeks> have fun
[14:41] <TheLastProject> I lost the "Send to Kopete" feature in KSnapShot after uninstalling and later reinstalling Kopete, does anybody have a clue how to get it back?
[14:44] <genii-around> TheLastProject: Is kipi-plugins installed?
[14:45] <naftilos76> hi everyone, has anybody succesfully transfered a big multilevel tree of folders and its' contents (emails) from kmail to evolution through an automated process/script?
[14:46] <TheLastProject> That did the trick, thank you genii-around!
[14:46] <genii-around> TheLastProject: You're welcome
[15:34] <draik> Hello all.
[15:36] <draik> I was formatting a drive (resizing partition) and it auto-rebooted itself. The partitioning was not done. I think there may be some data loss. Is there a way to get the drive back to know its format? The partition (NTFS) is currently unknown, per KDE Partition Manager.
[15:37] <winut> hi
[15:38] <winut> you could try using testdisk to identify the original partition. however, you are guaranteed to have some kind of data loss i would imagine
[15:40] <winut> i have done something similar myself before, accidentally triggering a resizing process on the wrong partition that would have taken about about 3 days to process! decided to cancel it and got the original partition back with testdisk but with some data loss
[15:41] <winut> my guess it thats it caches some data in the process
[15:42] <draik> winut: Where can I get testdisk?
[15:42] <winut> testdisk is available on gparted live and most live cd's and dvd's or you can run it form another pc on to the disk
[15:43] <winut> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[15:43] <winut> tbh, this has saved my balls a couple of times already, much bette rthasn
[15:43] <winut> trying to recover files individually with no respect to the original mft
[15:44] <winut> lucky you used ntfs, it has the mft at the beginning and also partway through the disk there is a backup also (master file table)
[15:44] <draik> Thank you, winut. I wasn't finding it on the LiveCD. I'll update on the liveCD and get testdisk
[15:46] <draik> Hmmm... not finding it with the repos on the LiveCD.
[15:46] <winut> when you have got the partition back, you probably want to run chkdsk to fix any unreferenced files etc. thats gonna take a while tho!
[15:46] <winut> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[15:47] <winut> sorry, try this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd
[15:47] <winut> also have a look at this before you get started -> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Data_Recovery_Examples
[15:48] <CoJaBo> Nvidia driver is "activated, but not in use", how do I fix this?
[15:48] <winut> draik, you also want to find out why your system auto rebooted!
[15:48] <winut> it might not be wise to do this process on the same machine for that reason
[15:49] <winut> maybe you have a memory or power supply, hw type issue?
[15:49] <draik> It's a laptop
[15:49] <draik> Lenovo
[15:49] <winut> otherwise you could ruin your chance of recovery
[15:50] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo, do your desktop effects work ok ? if so just ignore that statement about the driver it's aknown bug.,
[15:50] <CoJaBo> BluesKaj: Everything that attempts to use 3d crashes. Settings for using the second monitor do not work.
[15:51] <winut> driak, doesn't matter about the brand, all pc can fail!
[15:51] <draik> Very true
[15:51] <winut> maybe you could do the recovery process by plugging the hard drive of the laptop into another machine.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo, give us an example of 3D attempts
[15:51] <James147> CoJaBo: have you restarted (X) since you installed the drivers?
[15:52] <winut> i would run memory test on live cd on your laptop
[15:53] <winut> draik: before you consider doing anything, and make sure your laptop is also plugged into the mains! also check temperatures, maybe its overheating
[15:53] <winut> if thats the only pc you have
[15:55] <BluesKaj> also CoJaBo , after installing the recommended driver did you do , sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[15:58] <draik> Thanks for the help, winut
[16:01] <winut> no problem, let me know how you get on and if you have further questions :-)
[16:05] <draik> I shall. Thanks. o7
[16:26] <Adolf666> hai mars la cacat
[16:34] <TheLastProject> Good to see instant bans on such "funny people"
[16:35] <winut> what did he say?
[16:36] <TheLastProject> It's the nickname
[16:36] <TheLastProject> No clue what he said
[16:36] <winut> :-)
[16:36] <TheLastProject> Well, anyway, g2g
[16:52] <CoJaBo> BluesKaj: Got it working now, but Compiz still doesnt run
[16:53] <CoJaBo> More importantly, can anyone tell me why I cant run downloaded executables? http://pastebin.com/MFgwMu3k
[16:58] <BluesKaj> CoJaBo, if you have desktop effects working then compiz is basically redundant , IMO ...desktop effects requires 3D and DR...if compiz doesn't run then blame compiz
[16:59] <tsimpson> CoJaBo: are you on a 64bit system trying to run a 32bit executable? (or the other way round)
[17:00] <CoJaBo> tsimpson: Yeh, assumed it would be the correct version. Why is the error so styupid tho? Also, how do I install 64bit Firefox 3.6
[17:08] <tsimpson> CoJaBo: the error is dumb because that's just what the operating system reports back. and I think you need to compile firefox yourself to get the 64bit version
[17:09] <CoJaBo> :/
[17:20] <CoJaBo> what is the key combo to switch desktops?
[17:21] <Pici> Usually ctrl+al+left/right
[17:21] <Pici> CoJaBo: ^
[17:21] <CoJaBo> hm, isn't working :/
[17:22] <CoJaBo>  ok, so normally, ctrl alt f1 drops to a terminal. why does this not work?
[17:22] <CoJaBo> f2 shows blinking cursor, f7 the x display, all others are blank
[17:31] <BarkingFish> hi guys - I need to ask a favour if anyone can help.  I need someone who has used the startup disk creator to give me a hand.  I want to kill my old mandriva system (currently on my external 500GB HDD) and use the startup disk to create a bootable kubuntu partition at the start of the disk.
[17:32] <BarkingFish> I can't get this working though, since the startup creator keeps asking if I want to erase the entire disk, which I don't since it's got about 1.9 million MP3s on it, and I don't want to lose them.
[17:33] <BarkingFish> Anyone know if I can use the startup disk creator to simply erase 1 partition of the disk only, i.e the root partition, and transfer the burned ISO into there instead?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, startup disk ? do you mean live cd?
[17:34] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj, I have no idea.
[17:34] <BarkingFish> What I have is an ISO of Kubuntu - I want to burn the ISO to a USB disk, so that I can move kubuntu to my old machine which currently has mandriva on it, but has no CD or DVD drive
[17:35] <BarkingFish> I want it so that when I switch the machine on, the system will boot the Kubuntu startup and allow me to install it to my PC, so I can carry on working while I don't have my laptop
[17:39] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, so you want to boot the USB stick with kubuntu iso on it ... firstly if that's the case you need to find a method for the BIOS to boot the USB stick as first in the boot sequence ...there's a methos , but can't recall the name
[17:39] <BarkingFish> BIOS will already boot from USB, it does that now with the old OS which is on it
[17:40] <BarkingFish> My disk currently has mandriva on it, which I want to nuke.  I want to clear the mandriva root partition and put the contents of the ISO there instead, bootable so I can install to the machine
[17:46] <genii-around> BarkingFish: So if I understand correctly: You have an external 500Gb hd (NOT USB STICK) currently with full mandriva install, which you want to convert to kubuntu, then plug into another computer and run from that also, but your mp3s are on this external drive as well?
[17:47] <BarkingFish> genii-around, sort of.  I'll show you the layout.
[17:47] <genii-around> The startup disk creator is not the proper tool for what you are doing
[17:48] <BarkingFish> root is /dev/sdb1 - 30GB  - /home is /dev/sdb5 - 50GB  and the space for my remaining stuff is in /misc which amounts to 410.3GB
[17:48] <BarkingFish> genii-around, so what is the proper tool for what I am doing?
[17:55] <genii-around> BarkingFish: The current root is what fs? ext2/3/4?
[17:55] <BarkingFish> current root is ext2
[17:55] <BarkingFish> the home partition is ext2 also
[17:56] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Your music is already in /home ?
[17:57] <BarkingFish> no, my music is in an NTFS partition at the end of the drive, the /misc one I mentioned, /dev/sdb6
[17:58] <BarkingFish> i have lots of spare space in the pc, so all the music will get moved along with everything else onto a 320GB fixed into the PC, and I'll turn /dev/sdb6 back into ext3 or ext4
[18:00] <genii-around> BarkingFish: If you just do an actual install of (K)ubuntu to the external drive and use same layout as before with your mandrive without formatting /home or sdb6 then all that will happen is that it will now be Ubuntu and not Mandriva
[18:00] <BarkingFish> right, so I don't need to clear the home partition?
[18:01] <genii-around> BarkingFish: I'm not sure what UID Mandriva gives first user by default, might not be 1000 like Debian/Ubuntu
[18:01] <BarkingFish> Normally it's UID 500
[18:01] <BarkingFish> or 501, can't recall which
[18:02] <genii-around> Worst case there you chown -R /home/oldusername/1000:1000
[18:02] <genii-around> Or just leave old username, make new username then migrate your stuff
[18:03] <BarkingFish> right, so how do I install the ISO onto the USB disk then?  It's already plugged into my laptop.  I apologise if I sound thick, I've never strayed into this territory before :)
[18:03] <genii-around> BarkingFish: You have no CD?
[18:04]  * BluesKaj waits with anticpation...new to me as well
[18:04] <BarkingFish> no, I have the ISO on my laptop.
[18:04] <BarkingFish> this is why I was going with the startup disk creator
[18:05] <BarkingFish> if there's an easier way to do it, please let me know :)
[18:05] <BarkingFish> brb
[18:06] <jimmy51_> i have a qt based application that has a high chance of crashing when i launch it from within a bash script.  if i launch it from a terminal window it works.  what could cause that?
[18:07] <genii-around> BarkingFish: If you have a spare usb stick that is 1Gb or larger, use the Startup Disk creator onto that, boot to that device, from where you can then install to either your external hard drive or the internal hard drive, etc
[18:10] <BarkingFish> I don't have any USB sticks at all, sorry.
[18:13]  * genii-around sips his coffee and thinks about debootstrap from chroot
[18:15] <jimmy51_> i have a qt based application that has a high chance of crashing when i launch it from within a bash script. if i launch it from a terminal window it works. what could cause that?
[18:15] <jimmy51_> ah... sorry.  tried to paste something else
[18:32] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Apologies on lag, my boss came down for an extended chat
[18:33] <BarkingFish> no problem
[18:33] <genii-around> BarkingFish: What bootloader does your mandriva use?
[18:33] <BarkingFish> grub
[18:33] <BarkingFish> graphic version, i think
[18:34]  * jimmy51_ is going crazy
[18:36] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Can you pastebin fdisk -l  results please?
[18:36] <BarkingFish> sure
[18:40] <BarkingFish> sorry about that, genii-around
[18:40] <BarkingFish> I'm in 3 or 4 places at once doing tech support :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/687825/
[18:42] <BluesKaj> bbll..errands
[18:42] <BarkingFish> ok, see ya in a bit BluesKaj
[18:43] <winut> blueskaj, adding ppa's to synaptic causes them to error on missing gpg key on refresh. i remove them close repositories, open repositories add them again refresh then it adds the ppa ok, any idea whats going wrong? thanks
[18:46] <genii-around> BarkingFish: What is in sdb7 ?
[18:47] <BarkingFish> sdb 7 is one of my old home partitions I think.
[18:50] <genii-around> BarkingFish: If nothing important there, you can do Instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Live_CD using the grub2 method and probably (hd0,6)
[18:51] <genii-around> Sorry (hd1,6)
[18:51] <BarkingFish> there's nothing important there now, I've just copied it all to the /misc partition
[18:52] <BarkingFish> you can see though I have a bootable partition on /dev/sdb already, could I put it there?
[18:55] <spence> hi
[18:56] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Any partition you can spare :)
[18:56] <BarkingFish> ok, will do
[18:57] <jbern> I have a question about  "safely" removing a USB device?
[18:57] <spence> what about it?
[18:58] <BarkingFish> genii-around, /dev/sdb7 has been deleted - I can create a new partition in that space, so I'll get going now.  If I have any problems I'll come back to you :)
[18:58] <genii-around> BarkingFish: I'll be here on and off for the next 2 hours
[18:58] <jbern> Basically I have a device that mounts a file system
[18:58] <BarkingFish> ok, depends on how fast I can get this done, genii-around :)
[18:58] <BarkingFish> see you soon
[18:59] <jbern> when I unmount the filesystem via dolphin the device does not recognize that it has been unmounted
[18:59] <jbern> and I need to use the udisk or eject on the commandline to get the device to recognize this
[18:59] <jbern> is this standard or a bug?
[19:01] <spence> @jbern: have u run dolphin in the terminal to see the error?
[19:01] <jbern> no
[19:02] <spence> in terminal, just type "dolphin"
[19:02] <spence> and try unmounting it
[19:02] <spence> and see what pops up in the terminal
[19:02] <jbern> I will try that.  Dolphin does unmount the device (and if you run mount on the commandline it is not there) the issue is that the device itself doesn't know it is unmounted
[19:02] <spence> right as u click it
[19:02] <spence> that's strange
[19:02] <jbern> only after you use udisk or eject does the device know it is unmounted
[19:03] <winut> does wine work on kubuntu 11.10? thanks
[19:03] <jbern> the USB device is a HP touchpad if it matters
[19:03] <spence> winut: yes
[19:03] <winut> what grahics driver do you use?
[19:04] <winut> experimental or commerical?
[19:04] <winut> we are using the experimental driver atm
[19:04] <winut> on nvidia 7300
[19:06] <spence> I'm guessing I'm using experimental, didn't change anything after installation
[19:06] <winut> what card do you have?
[19:06] <spence> using onboard graphics from the i3 550 Clarksdale
[19:06] <winut> did you wine via ppa?
[19:06] <spence> with TH55 BioStar
[19:07] <spence> I dont have wine atm
[19:07] <spence> but I know it works with Kubuntu as well as Ubuntu
[19:07] <winut> on 11.10?
[19:07] <spence> oh for some reason thought u said 10.109
[19:07] <spence> 10.10*
[19:07] <spence> I'm not familiar with the changes between 11.04 and 11.10
[19:08] <spence> it's not stable, so go figure if it works for u or not
[19:08] <spence> have u tried it?
[19:10] <spence> winut: is your configuration x64 or x86
[19:11] <spence> ?
[19:11] <winut> x64
[19:11] <spence> hm
[19:13] <OerHeks> wimut what is your problem with wine ?
[19:21] <BarkingFish> genii-around, right, I've carried out the instructions in accordance with the page you directed me to.  I'm now going to *attempt* to get this working on my other machine. I'll be gone about an hour or so.
[19:21] <BarkingFish> see you later, I'm gonna drop now since I need power sockets for my other pc
[19:21] <genii-around> OK
[19:22] <BarkingFish> bbfn, and thanks
[19:24] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[19:24] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[19:31] <skulda> levae
[19:32] <teemperor> how can i change the appereance of buttons etc. in kubuntu?
[19:35] <genii-around> teemperor: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html#sect-appearance
[19:38] <teemperor> thx :)
[19:54] <B4ckBOne> Im trying to change video.driver for kaffeine in xine-config to vdpau, but it always overwrites with auto. What could i be doing wrong?
[19:55] <B4ckBOne> Anny assistance would be greatly appreciated :-)
[20:01] <B4ckBOne> hmm maybe everyone is at sleep right now
[20:24] <linux-beginner-h> can I import my kmail1 message to kmail2 using kmailcvt?
[20:24] <linux-beginner-h> has somebody tested this sucessfully?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne, ..why xine ?
[20:28] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: because of vdpau support
[20:28] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: i need it to watch hd channels from my dvb-s2 card
[20:28] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: cant get it to actualy use vdpau :-/
[20:28] <BluesKaj> mythtv?
[20:29] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: i like kaffeine :-)
[20:29] <B4ckBOne> and were in the K ubuntu channel
[20:30] <BluesKaj> whynot VLC ,, I don't have an hdtv tuner but I watch hidef content without any issues
[20:30] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: what type of processor u have?
[20:30] <B4ckBOne> im running on an atom intel .. ant its at its limits
[20:31] <BluesKaj> graphics is nvidia 8400gs , cpu isamd dual core "plain jane"
[20:32] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: do you know how to get kaffeine to use vdpau?
[20:32] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj:  i realy need to get this fixed :-/
[20:32] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj:  you can check if your engine is able to use xine by issuing the command: "xine --help"
[20:32] <B4ckBOne> look for vdpau
[20:33] <BluesKaj> I guess I could fool around with it , but I havent tried since VLC does the job, b4
[20:33] <B4ckBOne> its video rendering on the graphics adapter instead of the cpu
[20:33] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: with me it does not!
[20:34] <B4ckBOne> i know that kaffeine is able to use vdpau, but i cant get it to do so
[20:34] <BluesKaj> I don't have xine installed , never found it stable ... bbiab ...got food on the barbie
[20:34] <B4ckBOne> cu BluesKaj
[20:35] <genii-around> B4ckBOne: Your graphics card is NVidia?
[20:35] <B4ckBOne> genii-around: yes
[20:36] <B4ckBOne> nVidia Corporation Device 1040 (rev a1)
[20:36] <genii-around> B4ckBOne: You installed the vdpau driver for it from Additional Drivers ?
[20:37] <B4ckBOne> genii-around: vdpau is available in xine
[20:37] <B4ckBOne> genii-around: i used libxine2 from yavdr ppa
[20:37] <B4ckBOne> genii-around: and nvidia-vdpau etc
[20:38] <B4ckBOne> i   nvidia-185-libvdpau
[20:39] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card B4ckBOne ?
[20:40] <B4ckBOne> geeforce 210
[20:42] <genii-around> B4ckBOne: What says result of: lspci -nn| grep VGA
[20:42] <B4ckBOne> genii-around: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:1040] (rev a1)
[20:43] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne, according to the nvidia site the geforce 210 should be running the 256.53 driver
[20:45] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: nvidia-current is installed, which should give me the newest
[20:46] <B4ckBOne> actualy it is /nvidia-current_280.13-0yavdr0~natty_i386.deb)
[20:46] <B4ckBOne> and it has got:                                    - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[20:46] <B4ckBOne> so ther is vdpau in it
[20:47] <B4ckBOne> and also xine shows me vdpau is available
[20:47] <B4ckBOne> the issue is that when i configure kaffeine 1.2.2 to use vdpau, by editing ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config  -> to use vdpau by adding: video.driver:vdpau
[20:48] <B4ckBOne> it always reverts it to auto and comments the line out, when i start and stop kaffeine.
[20:48] <B4ckBOne> which is strange to me :-/
[20:51] <B4ckBOne> genii-around: any suggestions
[20:52] <BluesKaj> the nvidia-185-libvdpau may not be the correct version for the nvidia-current driver , but I don't use xine so , who knows
[20:53] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: uninstalled .. no change ..
[20:53] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: i think it was just an orphan
[20:53] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: nvidia-current provides all thats needed
[20:54] <B4ckBOne> cd /etc/X11/
[20:54] <B4ckBOne> ls
[20:54] <B4ckBOne> oups :-)
[20:56] <B4ckBOne> it sucks :-/
[20:57] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne, well, you could try  a different player
[20:57] <B4ckBOne> with dvb-s hd channels?
[20:59] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: you got any experience with dvb-s ?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> i just have an elcheapo usb tvtuner that never worked very well unless I used mplayer amd mencoder to record the analog video and audio,from my pvr ...the quality wasn't the best but it was watchable
[21:04] <BluesKaj> amd=and
[21:05] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne,^
[21:05] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: kk, i have a fully featured dvb-s2 card which i want to use at my livingromm linux server, which is connected to a 50" flat screen.
[21:05] <B4ckBOne> We use it to watch normal tv in non HD mode since about a year and it works
[21:06] <B4ckBOne> but it bothers me that HD channels do not work, and i cant get it to work either
[21:06] <B4ckBOne> also im not the guy to give up ^^ --> Problem :-D
[21:06] <BluesKaj> was considering the hauppage hd dvr 1219 for the media server pc , but we lready use an hdpvr in the system
[21:07] <B4ckBOne> which os are you using.. or is it some pre installed firmware type thingy?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne, on the media server pc oneiric , nothing fancy just vlc as a player ...we switch between the sat/pvr and the pc for media
[21:12] <BluesKaj> this 42" panasonic serves as a monitor for the media server pc and regular hdtv and ntsc analog feeds off the dish
[21:13] <B4ckBOne> so you realy use vlc to watch tv on that ? Does it have a graphics accelerator?
[21:14] <B4ckBOne> Maybe ill just upgrade to a core i7 .. money is not the problem ^^
[21:17] <BluesKaj> no I don't use vlc for tv feeds , it's for movies i have on the pc
[21:17] <B4ckBOne> so do you actualy watch tv using that pc's monitor?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> it's a regular plasma tv ,  hdmi in from the graphics card on the pc ..there's no tv tuner being used on the pc itself
[21:20] <BluesKaj> tv is from a sat/dish/pvr , a totally separate connection
[21:20] <B4ckBOne> just found this nifty vdpau check tool and it reports good rates to me
[21:20] <B4ckBOne> so vdpau is available
[21:21] <B4ckBOne> MPEG DECODING (1920x1080): 135 frames/s
[21:21] <B4ckBOne> that should be sufficient :-D
[21:21] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne, well that seems fine to me :)
[21:22] <B4ckBOne> http://nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=133465
[21:22] <B4ckBOne> thats the tool
[21:22] <B4ckBOne> you havet to compile first though
[21:22] <B4ckBOne> qmake .. make ...
[21:23] <B4ckBOne> oh and my graphics adapter is a geeforce 520 .. not 210
[21:23] <BluesKaj> ok , no wonder I was a bit confused :)
[21:24] <BluesKaj> have you considered mythtv ?
[21:24] <B4ckBOne> dont have experience in setting it up .. .configuring channels and stuff
[21:25] <B4ckBOne> also mythtv is gnome based .. were in kubuntu channel here :-)
[21:26] <BluesKaj>  I hear it's a bit of a chore ...then there's xbmc which I tried for a while but it has too many menus and layers for my liking, but it works really well with hdtv tuners from what the ppl at thier chat have said
[21:27] <B4ckBOne> BluesKaj: i would prefer an application that runs well in a window. Like kaffeine does
[21:27] <B4ckBOne> you can put it in minimal mode without window decorations and browse the web on the side or skype around ....
[21:28] <BluesKaj> B4ckBOne, well, i don't mind a few gtk based apps here and there
[21:28] <BluesKaj> ok, I have BBQ duties to attend to ... good luck
[21:29] <B4ckBOne> ok ;-) cu
[21:37] <sluckxz> haven't used kubuntu in several years.  just got it installed and just wanted to say its looking great.
[21:41] <BarkingFish> genii-around, you still about please?
[21:42] <BarkingFish> The entire install of kubuntu has gone through, but now I have a major problem. And I mean major.
[21:43] <BarkingFish> I'm running the updates through kpackagekit, and my video drivers were due in for an update.  Unfortunately, as the video drivers have gone through update, my monitor has dropped into standby and won't come out.
[21:44] <BarkingFish> drat. I just noticed genii-around is away.  Anyone else about who is able to help me please?
[21:47] <genii-around> BarkingFish: I was just about to turn off computer and go home. Did you try changing console with ctrl-alt-f1 or so?
[21:48] <BarkingFish> yep, nothing's working.  The screen is blank.  Is it worth a reboot?
[21:48] <genii-around> Is the hd activity silent for a while now?
[21:48] <BarkingFish> the hd shut up about 30 seconds ago, I assume the updates have finished
[21:52] <genii-around> BarkingFish: I'd probably chance reboot. First by ctrl-alt-del if keys still responding, if they aren't then I guess bite the bullet and use the switch...
[21:52] <BarkingFish> ok, let's see how we go.  It's looking good so far, it was until the screen blanked :)
[21:53] <BarkingFish> sudo reboot
[21:53] <genii-around> BarkingFish: I do need to go home in the next 10-15 minutes but I can stay a little while.
[21:53] <BarkingFish> sorry, mixing up my keyboards now :)
[21:54] <BarkingFish> ok, rebooting now by the sound of it
[21:54] <BarkingFish> thanks genii-around - will you be on later from home?
[21:55] <BarkingFish> I do have one other problem, I seriously need to update GRUB.  It's got about 90 entries at the moment, and most are mandriva 2010.2 leftovers it's detected
[21:55] <giantpune> is there a nfs tool with a gui floating around the repos for kubuntu 11.04?  i found the instructions for doing it via terminal and editing config files, but was hoping for a fancy gui
[21:55] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Probably not, I spent 8-9 hours dealing with computers already today. I am online from work every weekday however
[21:56] <BarkingFish> ok then, no problem.
[21:57] <BarkingFish> yes! We have a display :)
[21:58] <genii-around> Cool
[21:58] <BarkingFish> I guess updating the video driver musta knocked out the monitor
[21:58] <BarkingFish> It's all up and live now.  Only other thing is the grub, and then I can get cracking on the other machine :)
[21:58] <genii-around> BarkingFish: Perhaps, but sounds odd. Might be some other issue where it can't get back from power saving or dpms or something. Anyhow, possibly i'll see you tomorrow!
[21:59] <BarkingFish> ok then, no problem - I'll see you tomorrow.
[21:59] <BarkingFish> Take care, have a good night, I'm swapping onto the main machine now :) Wish me luck!
[21:59] <BarkingFish> bbfn
[22:01] <hidensoft> hi all
[22:20] <janet2104> anyone know how to set pwd with ark application, compressing a files?
[22:21] <SubCool> could someone assist me with a grub issue..
[22:22] <hidensoft> any body know how i can configure switch keyboard layout shortcut ?
[22:23] <SubCool> I have a box with a Kubuntu and Win7, i somehow fritz the grub. I was following a guide, sudo grub - something (hd0,0) -- setup (hd0) - i receive an error.
[22:27] <hidensoft> SubCool: what error ?
[22:29] <SubCool> cannot mount selected partition
[22:34] <SubCool> hidensoft,
[22:40] <SubCool> anyone grub?
[22:41] <shane2peru> SubCool: that don't sound good, the guide you were following is old, and the grub you have is more than likely grub2.
[22:42] <shane2peru> I don't know enough about grub2, SubCool, but you need to search for update grub2 and that should give you what you need
[22:42] <shane2peru> what Kubuntu are you running.
[22:43] <SubCool> 11.04
[22:43] <shane2peru> ok, then, I'm about 99% sure you are running the later Grub2
[22:44] <shane2peru> SubCool: this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[22:44] <shane2peru> Or this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  should give you what you need
[22:44] <shane2peru> SubCool:  ^^^
[22:45] <SubCool> already there- thanks!
[22:46] <shane2peru> no prob
[22:52] <BarkingFish> Can someone remind me please how to get firefox 4 back on kubuntu please?  I know I could do 5 from the pool, I want the earlier one.
[23:04] <SubCool> im really getting my butt kicked with this.
[23:10] <SubCool> bootrepair keeps telling me to use it in a 64bit environment
[23:45] <ubuntu__> could someone help me with this grub- its killing me..


[03:39] <iheartubuntu> its exciting to read Lyzs trip in Ghana. Anyone following along with her posts
[03:50] <akk> Wow, the pic of the school.
[23:55] <bkerensa> Gareth: talking about Mozilla at SCALE right now
[23:55] <bkerensa> hopefully will know in the next week
[23:55] <bkerensa> :)
[23:55] <bkerensa> things move slow
[23:55] <bkerensa> :P


[22:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:17] <thE_oNE> ah great thanks for the info
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> I am confused.
[22:18] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: ?
[22:18] <thE_oNE> Compiz is sexy guys
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> It says to go to advanced tab and there is no advanced tab under system settings.
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> Says to go to restricted drivers.
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> Don't see it.
[22:19] <BanisterKelly> As of Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the recommended way to install the binary driver is to open System Settings KMenu → System Settings, go to the Advanced tab and click Restricted Drivers. Then click the Administrator Mode button and check the box marked Enable to install the driver. This should install the right package for your card and set it up for you.
[22:19] <BanisterKelly> I think they left something out.
[22:19] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Your system settings only has the General tab?
[22:20] <BanisterKelly> No tabs at all.
[22:20] <BanisterKelly> Just a start menu like the Windows 9x does.
[22:20] <BanisterKelly> But it looks all different, of course.
[22:20] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Which version of Kubuntu are you running? lsb_release | grep Release
[22:20] <ward_> Ok i'm going to sleep.
[22:21] <BanisterKelly> I installed from Kubuntu Live CD I downloaded this mornin.
[22:21] <ward_> Thanks for help guys.
[22:21] <ward_> CU
[22:21] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Yes, but which release? 7.10? 7.04? Earlier?
[22:21] <ardchoille> ward_: Good night
[22:21] <ward_> Thanks ciaaoo
[22:21] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Which nvidia card do you have?
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <ardchoille> lsb_release | grep Release
[22:22] <andy_123> hi there
[22:22] <thE_oNE> No LSB modules are available here also
[22:23] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Sorry, my fault:  lsb_release -a | grep Release
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> brb
[22:23] <thE_oNE> ah
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> I need to get the Mrs.
[22:23] <andy_123> is it possible to use thinderbird with local email delivery?
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> I am running nvidia g-force fx5200
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> Be right back.
[22:24] <neville> :/
[22:26] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: When you get back, I can walk you through installing the nvidia drivers for that card if you want.
[22:27] <Kohlrabi> "sudo envy -t"? *cough*
[22:27] <ardchoille> Envy is neither supported nor needed
[22:27] <ardchoille> !envy
[22:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:27] <Kohlrabi> hm?
[22:27] <Kohlrabi> OK, sorry :(
[22:29] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release -a | grep Release
[22:29] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:29] <BanisterKelly> Release:        7.10
[22:30] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: That's Gutsy. No idea why your system settings has no Advanced tab :(
[22:31] <BanisterKelly> I know I went to do updates and it kept crashing on a fresh install.  Something about something.  Cannot remember.
[22:31] <beefjerky> i am having problems with Knetworkmanager - it used to automatically connect to my wifi network.  Now it starts, and immediately goes to the white box with an X in it.  Upon right-clicking, and clicking on my
[22:32] <BanisterKelly> Ready. to install drivers.
[22:32] <beefjerky> SSID, it will connect
[22:32] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Well, I can walk you through installing nvidia drivers via the command line, it's up to you
[22:32] <BanisterKelly> Lets try it.
[22:32] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ok, open a terminal
[22:32]  * Dr_willis is back
[22:33] <beefjerky> Also, there's a new entry under "wireless networks": hpsetup - wtf is this?
[22:33] <beefjerky> i just want it to auto-connect like it did before
[22:33] <BanisterKelly> Ready
[22:33] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Let's make sure your restricted modules are installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep Installed
[22:34] <BanisterKelly> bash: pt-cache: command not found
[22:34] <ardchoille> you missed the "a"
[22:34] <ardchoille> apt-cache, not pt-cache
[22:35] <BanisterKelly> Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>-14.10
[22:35] <bascule> beefjerky: is it in the trusted networks?
[22:36] <beefjerky> bascule: yes
[22:36] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Good, now we'll install the drivers: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:36] <beefjerky> bascule: there is a black X next to my SSID now, though =/
[22:37] <bascule> isn't that the connected indicator?
[22:37] <beefjerky> bascule: you know what - it probably is :)
[22:37] <bascule> :)
[22:37] <bascule> is the pass[hrase saved?
[22:37] <beefjerky> bascule: but why is there this "hpsetup" listed?
[22:38] <beefjerky> bascule: yup, once i click on my SSID, it will connect without having to enter the WPA
[22:38] <BanisterKelly> Done.
[22:38] <BanisterKelly> Thank you for the help.
[22:38] <bascule> that sounds like a wi-fi printer hp, just a guess
[22:38] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Now we need to enable the drivers: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[22:38] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: We're not done yet :)
[22:39] <beefjerky> bascule: yeah, but I don't have one, and there's no other houses around me... this problem started when i took my laptop out and connected to other wireless networks
[22:39] <BanisterKelly> Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.
[22:39] <BanisterKelly> In order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to
[22:39] <BanisterKelly> be restarted.
[22:39] <bascule> beefjerky: try removing them from the trusted networks, the other wi-fis that is
[22:39] <beefjerky> bascule: now i have this weird entry under "wireless networks" (doesn't really bother me), and it won't connect automatically
[22:40] <beefjerky> bascule: the other one isn't listed in trusted or untrusted ... weird, huh?
[22:40] <BanisterKelly> Ready.
[22:40] <BanisterKelly> Do I reboot now?
[22:40] <bascule> beefjerky: yeah, every network i habe ever connected to is in my list
[22:40] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ok, now open xorg.conf for editing: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:41] <BanisterKelly> Opened
[22:42] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ok, in kate, go to the section marked: Section "Device" and you'll see the current Driver (it's probably nv)
[22:42] <beefjerky> bascule: what should my "default gateway" be set to?
[22:42] <bascule> the wpa you are using
[22:42] <bascule> wap rather
[22:43] <beefjerky> bascule: the ip assigned by the router?
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> Section "Device"
[22:43] <bascule> no the router's IP
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> 	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> EndSection
[22:43] <beefjerky> as in 192.168.1.X?
[22:43] <bascule> yes
[22:44] <beefjerky> bascule: i should enter the same IP that i would enter in a URL bar to access my router config page?
[22:44] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: ok, you can restart xorg now, close/save all work and do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:44] <bascule> beefjerky: exactly
[22:44] <TimS> I am looking for a cheap 20gb MP3/Video player compatible with linux, any recomendations
[22:44] <_michael> Hello I'm looking to upgrade to Gutsy, but I certainly don't want the full contents of the kubuntu-desktop meta package. Is there a way to upgrade only upgrading packages I currently have installed.
[22:44] <beefjerky> bascule: do i need to enter anything in "domain name"?
[22:45] <ardchoille> _michael: Are you running Kubuntu now?
[22:45] <Mr_President> hi everybody!
[22:45] <bascule> beefjerky: no not really unless you use multiple hosts ina domain that isn't in DNS records :)
[22:45] <beefjerky> bascule: nope... at least no problems there =)
[22:46] <beefjerky> bascule: ok, now that "hpsetup" has disappeared!  very strange
[22:46] <Exilant> _michael: there is, but dependencies just run amok if the metapackages aren't there
[22:47] <bascule> _michael: it will only update what is there in erms of downloads and installs, the packae lists reflect all updated versions though
[22:47] <Shao`> Anyone gotten a HP PSC 1110 to work with kooka and/or xsane here? It's recognized but kooka says it's not a sane scanner, and xsane just locks up when trying to select the scanner
[22:47] <gustavo> hi! can someone give a iptables basic rules? (for security) like anti-dos attack, ping of death... something like it?
[22:47] <_michael> ardchoille: Yes 7.04 and I don't want everything in kubuntu-desktop to be installed again since I've removed many things from it. Should I just manually edit my sources.list and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[22:47] <bascule> beefjerky: well I dunno what it was so I am kind of glad to here that
[22:47] <beefjerky> bascule: me too - now is there a way i can test to see if it will auto-connect to my network?
[22:48] <ardchoille> _michael: I think even that will cause problems. you really need to have the meta-package installed to have a safer upgrade
[22:48] <bascule> beefjerky: sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager
[22:51] <_michael> ardchoille: Ok then is it better to upgrade off of the alternate cd or from the internet?
[22:52] <ardchoille> _michael: Seeing that the packages in the repos are more current than those of the cd, I feel it's better to upgrade from the internet so you don't double your work.
[22:52] <ardchoille> !upgrade | _michael
[22:52] <ubotu> _michael: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:52] <_michael> ardchoille: Ok then thank you
[22:52] <ardchoille> yw
[22:55] <Mr_President> does kubuntu installer have a built-in partitioning manager?
[22:55] <Mr_President> i tjink i'm gonna need it to create my / partition...
[22:55] <ardchoille> Mr_President: Yes, the isntaller has a partitioner.
[22:55] <ardchoille> Unless you have special needs, the installer will handle that for you
[22:56] <Mr_President> oh, thanks for the help ;)
[22:56] <ardchoille> yw
[22:59] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: How is everything with the new drivers?
[23:05] <BanisterKelly> SO far no problems.
[23:05] <BanisterKelly> Can I use the 3D cube effect with the new drivers?
[23:07] <ardchoille> You should be able to
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> Okay.  I am looking it up now.
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> One thing I like so far is LInux has quite a selection of interesting programs.
[23:08] <BanisterKelly> I am installing 48 under Edutainment.
[23:08] <ardchoille> Yeah, the major benefit of Linux, IMHO, is the freedom to choose that which works for me.
[23:09] <BanisterKelly> I am new to LInux, but so far I like what I see.
[23:09] <BanisterKelly> My next challenge is to get a Windows 98 up and running.
[23:09] <BanisterKelly> Virtually.
[23:09] <andy_123> can anyone assist in setting up local email delivery with kmail
[23:09] <andy_123> somhow it does not retrieve the mail
[23:10] <andy_123> i have the mail in /var/spool/mail
[23:10] <ardchoille> andy_123: I just did that yesterday
[23:10] <Roey> BanisterKelly:  good luck wtih it! :)
[23:10] <chx> I have managed to pair kbluetooth with my mobile phone. Browsing to obex://[08:00:1f:87:ab:d3]/ still results in an error.
[23:10] <chx> Could not connect to host.
[23:10] <ardchoille> andy_123: On Gutsy, /var/spool/mail is a smlink to /var/mail
[23:11] <BanisterKelly> Thank you Roey
[23:11] <daffa> !dvd
[23:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:11] <ardchoille> andy_123: kmail > Configure Kmail > Accounts > Add
[23:11] <Shao`> Could someone please help me out with this error message: kooka: failed to open scan channel: scan/sane/hpaio ? Google gives me nada...
[23:12] <andy_123> ardchoille: well, anyway kamil refuses to pick it up, also evolution and it looks like thunderbird does not have this option at all
[23:12] <ionus> how to install theme
[23:12] <BanisterKelly> NICE! Thank you ubotu
[23:12] <ionus> theme
[23:12] <ionus> !theme
[23:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:12] <ardchoille> andy_123: What are you using for File location?
[23:12] <BanisterKelly> ardchoille, ever use WIn XP?
[23:12] <ardchoille> !thanks | BanisterKelly
[23:12] <ubotu> BanisterKelly: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[23:13] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: I haven't touched a Windows OS since 2001
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> I didn't know you were a bot ubotu.
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> WOW!  Thats quite a while.
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> I couldn't last that long.
[23:13] <ardchoille> Well, I don't feel the need for Windows while Linux exists :)
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> lol
[23:13] <MaTiAz> In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows? ;)
[23:14] <ardchoille> MaTiAz: Exactly
[23:14] <BanisterKelly> I cannot live without 98 and my most used software/games, and especially DOS mode.
[23:14] <chx> I can send data to the phone with the OBEX push client but I can't browse the phone :(
[23:14] <MaTiAz> BanisterKelly: you could try dosbox :P
[23:14] <chx> BanisterKelly: dosbox
[23:14] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: I'd be willing to bet you can find equivalent apps in Linux for your Windows apps
[23:15] <chx> ardchoille: your bet is wrong, though. TortoiseCVS or SVN has no match.
[23:15] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Sadly, gaming is one area where Linux is still behind the times, but it's getting better.
[23:15] <neville> But this is a world WITH gates and walls, unfortunately
[23:15] <BanisterKelly> I don't play alot of games and the ones I do are mostly card/board games.  Hoyle is one I have loads of.
[23:16] <BanisterKelly> I don't like those war/fight everything/sports games.
[23:16] <andy_123> ardchoille: file location is /var/mail/andy
[23:16] <andy_123> i also tried /var/spoll/mail/andy
[23:16] <andy_123> no go
[23:16] <andy_123> and there is already mail in there
[23:17] <ardchoille> andy_123: You probably aren't able to get a lock due to not being able to write to /var/mail/andy. I use the "None" locking method and it works fine. Tried that?
[23:17] <BanisterKelly> Linux might not be big in the game department, but it does have one I will stay playing for hours.  Midssile Command.
[23:17] <BanisterKelly> Missile Command
[23:17] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Check out crack-attack and chromiumbsd
[23:18] <BanisterKelly> Never heard of those.
[23:18] <ardchoille> Addictive Linux games, they're in the repos
[23:18] <NickPresta> GNU+Linux has plenty of games. Whether or not they're of the same quality or have the same popularity as commercial games for Windows, that's another story :)
[23:18] <andy_123> adchoille: wow, this was it...just curious while it says 'use with care'??
[23:18] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Good point
[23:18] <ardchoille> andy_123: Not sure, but it has never caused a problem here.
[23:19] <andy_123> oki
[23:19] <andy_123> thanx, that was it then
[23:19] <BanisterKelly> As long as its a game that is fun to play, it doesn't need to be smancy fancy.  lol
[23:19] <Dr_willis> $50 pc games are agetting a bit pricy
[23:19] <ardchoille> andy_123: You could add yourself to the mail group and then be able to use Procmail lockfile, but something about that changes each time I log into kde forcing me to fix it again, too much trouble
[23:19] <Dr_willis> thenya got the tons-o-$20-a-pop-crud :)
[23:20] <andy_123> ardchoille: do you know a way to use local delivery with thunderbird?
[23:20] <BanisterKelly> Be back soon.
[23:20] <Dr_willis> I will confess that i can get most of the pop-cap games working with wine just fine. :P
[23:20] <ardchoille> andy_123: I haven't used tb in years, don't know much about it :(
[23:20] <BanisterKelly> Bejeweled 2 works with Wine?
[23:21] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ah, I forgot about wine, that's another thing you may want to set up
[23:21] <Dr_willis> BanisterKelly,  Hmm not sure agou that one..  Bookworm Deluxe does,  Peggle does,
[23:21]  * BanisterKelly makes a note to install wine
[23:21] <Dr_willis> and many others.. some dont however.
[23:21] <Dr_willis> Some of those games i think are some sort of browser/flash thang.
[23:22] <BanisterKelly> Be back soon.  I will look up those games and the wine program.  Thank you.  Time to fondle Google.  lol
[23:22] <scrubb2000> !workspace
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <juank> alguna niña de peru?
[23:23] <ardchoille> I'm not sure if he needs Spanish
[23:23] <ardchoille> !es
[23:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:24] <BanisterKelly> Do you know if there is a Linux version of Uno or Skip-bo?
[23:24] <juank> alguien puede ayudarme
[23:24] <juank> ¡?
[23:25] <NickPresta> !es | juano__
[23:25] <ubotu> juano__: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:25] <andy_123> juank: aki se habla ingles
[23:26] <NickPresta> sorry, *kicks tab conpletion*
[23:26] <astrid> Hi. Im using amarok to play last.fm streams but the skip button is not working. Is there any amarok channel?
[23:26] <NickPresta> astrid, #amarok
[23:26] <astrid> hmm... obvious, thanks
[23:28] <aro> #kubuntu,#ubuntu,#xubuntu
[23:29] <Dr_willis> #mythbuntu
[23:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:32] <navetz> how do i get a compiz button to enable compiz
[23:32] <lovre> OT - does any1 know where i can get unreal tournament for linux?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> isent the linux binary included on the  comercial cd's ?
[23:33] <Tm_T> should be
[23:33] <Dr_willis> I rember one of the unreals working that way
[23:33] <Dr_willis> I aint kept up. :) I did pickup Crysis and BioShock last night
[23:33] <Dr_willis> Gotta love  Day-after-thanksgiving sames
[23:33] <Dr_willis> sales
[23:33] <NickPresta> lovre, which unreal? The up-and-coming release of UT2007? or ut2004?
[23:34] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: umm, never heard of those
[23:34] <NickPresta> Tm_T, they're both great games that were recently released :)
[23:35] <Tm_T> ok so not interesting
[23:35] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  youve been under a rock again.. it seems. :)
[23:35] <NickPresta> Tm_T, well, the engine for Crsys, made my Crytek, is interesting, to say the least
[23:35] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: I'm way too old for this
[23:35] <Tm_T> NickPresta: not to me
[23:35] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  Yep. same here.. I suck at the First person shooters Online. but these are both good single player games
[23:36] <Dr_willis> it seems every Nov. the game cmpanies all realase the 'best' games they been saving all year
[23:36] <Craya> hi, i have installed kubuntu on a vm in windows xp ... the x window system is working just fine and resizes to my monitor width and height ... but if i change to console view (ctrl+alt+f1) the screen is just about 1/4th the size of my screen ... any ideas how to fix this ?
[23:36] <lovre> NickPresta: any UT, i dont think 2k7 is available for linux yet, so i think 2k4, or even 99 will do
[23:36] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: me, I tried Doom3 demo, 2 fps was best I got back then
[23:37] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  and it was so dark. you culdent tell anyway. :)(
[23:37] <Dr_willis> 100+ FPS of solid darkness!
[23:37] <Tm_T> Craya: you have to tell prolly to tty:s to use higher res, how, I do not know
[23:37] <Dr_willis> i never did finish doom3.
[23:37] <NickPresta> lovre, http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux
[23:37] <Dr_willis> well bbl. :)
[23:37] <Craya> thx Tm_T ... gonna man me through :-)
[23:38] <scrubb2000> What does "Workspace Down" mean on the menu that comes up when I right click on a window's title bar?
[23:38] <ronnie_> Hello, attempting to upgrade to Kubuntu 7.10, but the adept updater gives and error and stops at that point, giving "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Is this any known bug ? Someone able to give me some help with it ?
[23:39] <Tm_T> ronnie_: ummm, hard to tell if it doesn't tell anything else
[23:39] <lovre> NickPresta: so you are saying there is installation for linux inside a DVD for windows game?
[23:40] <lovre> NickPresta: ok, thanks
[23:40] <ronnie_> if I try to disable the first two packages or something that it tries to update, think that would help ? is stil la problem, and weird thing is that this seems to be a download problem, I didn't see any problems during download, and if it were, everyone would have same problem
[23:41] <ardchoille> !sound
[23:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:42] <scrubb2000> Anybody?  Workspace down? What's it mean?
[23:42] <armando> hola agien que hable español??
[23:42] <NickPresta> !es | armando
[23:42] <ubotu> armando: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:43] <ronnie_> gonna try to cancel the updates of acpi, acpi-support and acpid
[23:43] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: if you have for example 6 workspaces, and they are set to be in 3-in-a-row then 1 is above 4 etc
[23:43] <ronnie_> nope.
[23:44] <scrubb2000> tm_t, workspace = desktop?
[23:44] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: yes
[23:44] <TimS> I have an .avi and I want to convert it and burn it to a DVD so that it is playable, how can I do this?
[23:45] <Tm_T> !info k9copy
[23:45] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[23:45] <scrubb2000> tm_t, but when I use the "workspace down" thing, the window vanishes from all of my workspaces.
[23:45] <Tm_T> TimS: see that
[23:45] <TimS> Okay
[23:45] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: interesting
[23:45] <scrubb2000> is there a keyboard shortcut to cycle through workspaces?
[23:46] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: here it is winkey-F1 etc
[23:47] <scrubb2000> tm_t, I'm running compiz.  Does that change it?
[23:47] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: well yes really
[23:47] <Tm_T> that's huge difference
[23:47] <scrubb2000> I presume they're documented somewhere for compiz?
[23:47] <Tm_T> no idea, ask in #compiz-fusion
[23:48] <scrubb2000> k
[23:48] <Carutsu> scuse me how do i find out if i have opengl enabled? I'm using an intel i810 graphic card
[23:49] <biovore> glxinfo | grep direct
[23:49] <nsh> hey, where's the beef
[23:49] <nsh> can i put my X windows into ascii mode?
[23:49] <nsh> that would be three shades of vanilla awesome
[23:49] <ardchoille> When I play music at a high volume level, it plays for a few seconds then the sound quits. A reboot fixes this but there has to be another way. How do I restart the sound system without rebooting?
[23:50] <Carutsu> biovore: thank you very much!
[23:53] <nsh> hello?
[23:53] <NickPresta> hi, nsh
[23:53] <nsh> nobody answer my question and i cry a little
[23:53] <nsh> but luckly has tissue
[23:56] <tung> I'm using ATI. When I install the restricted driver, the res of kdm become bigger than usual.
[23:59] <tung> the second thing is that when I play a game at fullscreen mode, the display is blank.
[23:59] <ronnie_> uh, is adept manager different from the commands used as apt-get ? when trying to upgrade to 7.10 by using adept manager, it fails, but when I used apt-get update and apt-get upgrade now, it works ... also gave something 'bout "packages kept back" ... anyone got an explanation to this ?