[13:50] <Matt_91> io non riesco più a cambiare la pass del io accaunt, vado qui: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/PreferenzeUtente
[13:50] <Matt_91> e po?
[14:26] <Matt_91> sapete il link della quida del terminale dove spiega il comando cd??
[16:26] <Matt_91> io dovrei inserire dei link nel wiki, qualcuno mi aiuta
[16:26] <Matt_91> mi servirebbero dei link per il terminale e per il comando cd, ma non li trovo
[16:34] <Rocket2DMn> Matt_91, do you speak english?
[16:34] <Rocket2DMn> something about the wiki and a bad command?
[16:34] <Matt_91> i speak elementary english
[16:35] <Matt_91> why?
[16:35] <Rocket2DMn> that's ok, what can we do to help you?
[16:35] <Matt_91> thanks, but I resolved
[16:36] <Rocket2DMn> oh, ok
[16:36] <Matt_91> I make a syntax error
[16:36] <Rocket2DMn> hehe, a common problem at the command line :)
[16:36] <Matt_91> thank you, bye
[16:37] <Matt_91> to work on the command line is easy to make errors
[16:38] <Rocket2DMn> no problem
[16:40] <Matt_91> haha, I have wrong the channel! the Italian is #ubuntu-it-doc
[16:40] <Matt_91> that's why you answered me in English!
[16:40] <Matt_91> now I enter the Italian channel:-)


[00:04] <nhandler> mwhudson: I'm still working on it. My python abilities are not that great (I prefer Perl), so it might take me a little while to make the necessary changes
[00:05] <mwhudson> nhandler: ok
[00:05] <mwhudson> nhandler: let me know if you need help
[00:05] <nhandler> mwhudson: Will do.
[02:43] <nhandler> mwhudson: I figured out how to override the description. Should I override it in both of the two locations that review_type is used? Or only in one of them? Either method will result in the correct string being displayed on the correct page
[02:43] <mwhudson> nhandler: i'm not completely sure
[02:44] <nhandler> mwhudson: Overriding it in both locations would probably be safest.
[02:44] <mwhudson> nhandler: part of me is saying that the description in the interface should be aimed at the programmer, and _all_ of the uses of it in a form should override it to something appropriate for a human
[02:45] <mwhudson> nhandler: perhaps more particularly, in the interface the description should describe what the field means in the object
[02:46] <mwhudson> nhandler: as the description in the interface ends up here: https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#code_review_vote_reference
[02:49] <nhandler> mwhudson: Alright, I'll update the description in the interface and add overrides in the 2 locations that the review_type is used
[02:49] <mwhudson> nhandler: awesome, thanks
[03:56] <nhandler> mwhudson: I think I have a correct patch now. Since I am modifying actual code now, do I need to run some tests on it? Can I do this without having an Amazon EC2 account?
[03:57] <mwhudson> nhandler: you could probably run the codereview page tests locally; they shouldn't take that long
[03:57] <mwhudson> nhandler: i'll run all the tests before landing anyway
[04:01] <nhandler> mwhudson: Exactly how do I run the test? https://dev.launchpad.net/Testing only shows how to do it in ec2.
[04:02] <mwhudson> nhandler: ./bin/test -vvct stories/codereview i think
[04:02] <mwhudson> nhandler: that's a pretty terrible page
[04:04] <nhandler> lib/lp/code/stories only contains branches, codeimport, feeds, __init__.py, and webservice. There is no stories/codereview (unless you are talking about a different stories directory)
[04:04] <mwhudson> hmm!
[04:06] <mwhudson> nhandler: try code/stories/branches
[04:10] <nhandler> Well, I tried actually running the first command. It started to run, but crashed with 'ImportError: No module named Crypto.Cipher
[04:13] <mwhudson> nhandler: i hope https://dev.launchpad.net/Testing is a little more sensible now
[04:13] <mwhudson> nhandler: do you have launchpad-developer-dependencies installed?
[04:14] <nhandler> mwhudson: Yes. It got installed when I went through the guide for setting up Launchpad
[04:14] <mwhudson> nhandler: hmm
[04:15] <mwhudson> nhandler: can you pastebin the output of the trying to run the command?
[04:26] <nhandler> mwhudson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/288999/
[04:27] <mwhudson> nhandler: hm, that shouldn't happen, but it also shouldn't prevent you from running the other tests
[04:28] <mwhudson> nhandler: do you have python-crypto installed?
[04:29] <nhandler> mwhudson: That fixed the issue I had. But I get: Total: 0 tests, 0 failures, 0 errors in 0.000 seconds.
[04:29] <nhandler> Which does not seem right
[04:29] <mwhudson> nhandler: try ./bin/test -vvct stories/branches
[04:30] <mwhudson> (this will run more tests than you really need to, but better than none)
[04:32] <stub> I assume this topic is out of date?
[04:33] <stub> Trivial and boring review waiting at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stub/launchpad/librarian-gc/+merge/13048 if someone can be arsed.
[04:35] <mwhudson> stub: luckily for you i'm working on a tests in the appserverlayer
[04:37] <nhandler> mwhudson: Tests all passed. I submitted a new merge request (https://code.launchpad.net/~nhandler/launchpad/bugfix296469.2/+merge/13103). https://code.launchpad.net/~nhandler/launchpad/bugfix296469/+merge/13034 can be closed.
[04:37] <nhandler> And I really appreciate all of the help you have provided. I have learned a lot
[04:38] <mwhudson> nhandler: spending time to help new developers along is _always_ worth it
[04:48] <mwhudson> nhandler: you should be able to delete https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nhandler/launchpad/bugfix296469/+merge/13034
[04:49] <nhandler> mwhudson: I can delete the merge request, but it also deletes the comments. I thought there was a way to change the status so it no longer shows up in the proposed merges list, but is still available online
[04:53] <mwhudson> nhandler: you can probably set the status to 'rejected' i guess
[04:53] <mwhudson> i thought there was a way to withdraw it...
[04:53] <mwhudson> nhandler: in general, you didn't need to make a new merge request though
[04:54] <mwhudson> nhandler: a comment saying "can you look again" would have been fine
[04:55] <nhandler> mwhudson: I can only set the status to 'Needs review', 'Work in Progress', and 'Merged'. The reason for the second merge request was that a second branch was created (due to me not messing around with bzr merge to resolve a divergence)
[04:56] <mwhudson> nhandler: oh strange
[04:56] <mwhudson> nhandler: i lose track between what's planned and what's implemented i'm afraid :/
[04:59] <nhandler> mwhudson: Not a problem. The same thing happens to me with some of my other projects.
[05:00] <mwhudson> nhandler: review sent -- closer, but not quite there yet
[05:20] <nhandler> mwhudson: 3rd time is the charm. I just pushed the changes you suggested
[05:22] <mwhudson> nhandler: awesome
[05:25] <mwhudson> nhandler: i see you've signed the agreement so i'll see about landing this branch
[05:25]  * nhandler hugs mwhudson
[05:25] <nhandler> You rock mwhudson !
[05:26] <mwhudson> nhandler: can you supply a commit message at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~nhandler/launchpad/bugfix296469.2/+merge/13103/+edit-commit-message ?
[05:27] <nhandler> mwhudson: Sure. Should it follow the format on https://dev.launchpad.net/PQMCommitMessages ?
[05:28] <mwhudson> nhandler: yes, basically
[05:29] <mwhudson> nhandler: you don't need to worry about the stuff in square brackets (the [r=foo] stuff)
[05:29] <mwhudson> nhandler: the script i'll be using adds that
[05:33] <nhandler> mwhudson: Done
[05:37] <mwhudson> nhandler: i trimmed it a bit, but thanks!
[05:39] <nhandler> mwhudson: So there isn't a need to include the bug number?
[05:39] <mwhudson> nhandler: no, that page is a little out of date really
[05:39]  * nhandler loves outdated documentation ;)
[09:09] <wgrant> bigjools: Can I grab a tiny review from you?
[09:10] <bigjools> wgrant: if it's tiny, yes
[09:10] <wgrant> bigjools: I hope it's sufficiently tiny: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bug-433739-debug-archive-urls/+merge/13107
[09:12] <bigjools> yes, it's tiny :)
[09:14] <bigjools> wgrant: I'll land it for you
[09:15] <wgrant> bigjools: Thankyou.
[09:15]  * bigjools wishes I could do that without making a local branch
[09:16] <wgrant> bigjools: ec2 land!
[09:16] <bigjools> I don't use ec2
[09:17] <wgrant> Pfft.
[09:18] <bigjools> I think I'd still need a local branch with that anyway
[09:20] <bigjools> I wish pqm knew about lp: urls
[09:37] <BjornT> bigjools: you don't need a local branch, all you need to do is to send a mail to pqm telling it to merge the branch
[09:38] <bigjools> BjornT: true, but not exactly user-friendly :)
[09:39] <BjornT> bigjools: another option is to hack pqm-submit not to require a local branch :)
[09:39] <bigjools> or put a "land me!" button on the MP
[09:42] <BjornT> web UIs are overrated
[09:43] <bigjools> let's go 100% API!
[09:53] <jml> more ctk apps.
[09:53] <jml> gtk apps, I mean
[10:12] <bigjools> you mean qt
[10:16] <BjornT> let's not fight over gtk vs qt, and settle for cli instead
[10:34] <BjornT> adeuring: can you review this small patch? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjornt/launchpad/jscheck-all-layers/+merge/13113
[10:34] <adeuring> BjornT: sure
[10:37] <adeuring> BjornT: r=me
[10:37] <BjornT> thanks
[10:53] <al-maisan> hello adeuring, how are things?
[10:53] <adeuring> al-maisan: fine, thanks. Need a review ;)
[10:53] <al-maisan> sure :)
[10:53] <al-maisan> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/unembargo-443075/+merge/13114
[11:05] <al-maisan> adeuring: re. the branch: the code that send the announcement email is moved to PU.realiseUpload() because that method is invoked in a context that has access to the restricted librarian. This is not the case for the acceptFromCopy() method that thus failed in a production setting.
[11:06] <adeuring> al-maisan: thanks for the explanation!
[11:06] <al-maisan> sorry for not putting that in the cover letter
[11:13] <al-maisan> adeuring: I will need to break for lunch in approx. 15 minutes but will be back later.
[11:14] <adeuring> al-maisan: enjoy lunch!
[11:14] <al-maisan> :)
[11:43] <mrevell> adeuring: Nice simple review for you :) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~matthew.revell/launchpad/help-continue-button-bug-406394/+merge/13115
[11:44] <adeuring> mrevell: sure. But let me first finish a review for Muharem
[11:44] <mrevell> of course :)
[12:55] <adeuring> mrevell-lunch: r=me
[13:47] <mrevell> thanks adeuring
[13:47] <adeuring> mrevell: welcome :)
[14:23] <barry> adeuring: morning!  i am both chr and ocr today, so we'll see how it goes
[14:23] <adeuring> barry: morning!
[14:25] <adeuring> barry: if you want to check this sort of multitasking right now, I have an MP: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adeuring/launchpad/hwdb-class-udev-device-2/+merge/13118 ;)
[14:25] <barry> adeuring: i'll put it on the list.  i have a meeting coming up but i'll take a shot at it
[14:26] <adeuring> barry: thanks!
[15:56] <allenap> adeuring: Can you review an ec2test-remote.py change please? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~allenap/launchpad/ec2-test-remote-non-ascii-issue-bug-447247/+merge/13126
[15:56] <adeuring> allenap: sure
[16:02] <allenap> adeuring: I've noticed an issue with it, sorry. It's small, so I'll add paste you an incremental diff.
[16:02] <adeuring> allenap: ok, np
[16:06] <allenap> adeuring: Comment added with the diff. Thanks.
[16:09] <adeuring> allenap: nice branch! just one question: can we be sure that summary is alway a Unicode instance? Or: Does it alsways have an encode() method?
[16:17] <allenap> adeuring: I think it will always be a unicode instance, but even str has an encode method so I think it'll be fine.
[16:18] <adeuring> allenap: ah, right. so, r=me
[16:25] <allenap> adeuring: Thank you :)
[16:25] <adeuring> allenap: welcome :)
[16:29] <barry> adeuring: review sent
[16:29] <adeuring> barry: thanks!
[17:54] <barry> rockstar: thanks.  i actually had a screenshot in the bug report, but forgot to mention it in the mp.  i wish you could attach things to the mp :/
[21:09] <bac> barry: time for a very simple review?
[21:10] <rockstar> barry, I can has review?
[21:10] <barry> bac, rockstar put it on the queue.  i can get to it around chr duties i think
[21:10] <bac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bac/launchpad/bug-435599/+merge/13141
[21:10] <bac> barry: it's really more like an rs
[21:10] <rockstar> barry, chr AND Orc duties today?  Eep.
[21:10] <barry> rockstar: yep!
[21:10] <barry> bac: looking
[21:11] <bac> in fact, i feel almost silly asking
[21:11] <rockstar> barry, I'm wondering if that's such a good idea.
[21:11] <barry> bac: r=me :)
[21:11] <barry> rockstar: probably not :)
[21:11] <bac> barry: thanks.
[21:11] <rockstar> barry, I'll add it to the reviewer agenda.
[21:12] <barry> rockstar: interestingly, this is not the first time it's happened to me
[21:12] <bac> rockstar: i re-arrange my schedule so it doesn't happen
[21:12] <rockstar> bac, yeah, that's probably a good idea.
[21:14] <barry> rockstar, bac agreed, though today it's been fairly light
[21:16] <rockstar> barry, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/launchpad/cleanup-javascript/+merge/13143
[21:16] <rockstar> barry, no real code changes, just making the existing tests part of a test case with CodeWindmillLayer so that the tests can be run with bin/test
[21:17] <rockstar> barry, really I should have landed this branch a while ago.
[21:21] <barry> rockstar: why no diff on the mp?
[21:21] <rockstar> barry, I think a script has exploded.
[21:31] <barry> rockstar: do you think this will be fixed soon?  i'll be around for maybe another hour
[21:32] <rockstar> barry, how bout I just give you diff?
[21:32] <barry> rockstar: that'll work
[21:45] <rockstar> barry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/289549/
[21:48] <barry> rockstar: delete line 149 or 150
[21:49] <rockstar> barry, ah yeah.
[21:49] <barry> rockstar: delete line 235, 236 or 237
[21:49] <barry> rockstar: nice simple branch.  everything else looks fine.  r=me
[21:49] <rockstar> barry, thanks.
[21:49]  * rockstar was a little whitespace crazy
[21:49] <barry> :)
[22:43] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: do you have time to review a test restructuring? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-430708-registry-windmill-layer/+merge/13148
[22:50] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: i can look
[22:52] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: it looks like you have conflicts in your branch.  see lines 8-12, 21-27
[22:52] <barry> etc
[22:53] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: hmm, l merged in trunk earlier today, but I'll do it again.
[22:57] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: oh, now I see. I was still pushing up my branch changes when launchpad computed the diff. Here is a good diff. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/289610/   I believe the merge proposal will automatically recompute it in a little while.
[22:57] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: cool
[22:59] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: line 132: can't that just be range(5)?
[22:59] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: also, it looks weird.  why do the wait that way and not just provide a longer timeout?
[22:59] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: same at line 160
[23:01] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: I didn't realize that range() had a different behavior with just one argument. I'll do that.
[23:02] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: yep, start is optional. still, why wait in a loop rather than just increase the timeout?
[23:02] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: the reason that it can't just have a longer timeout is that it successfully passes the wait and then fails on the next assertion that tests the exact same thing. I really don't know why that would happen.
[23:02] <barry> yeesh
[23:02] <EdwinGrubbs> and I've been tweaking it for the last week with no better insight
[23:03] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: ok.  please add a comment explaining this to both spots
[23:03] <EdwinGrubbs> sure
[23:04] <barry> EdwinGrubbs: cool  r=me
[23:05] <EdwinGrubbs> barry: thanks


 Thanks for the link, I needed it :)
[00:20] <jcastro> hah yeah
[00:20] <paultag> jcastro: talk to you later big guy
[00:20] <jcastro> cheers
[00:25] <jono> any couchdb users here?
[00:27] <jcastro> jono: bonus, matt griffin and ken edwards are in town on business, gonna go meet them for dinner.
[00:27] <jcastro> <--- finally a work xmas party!
[00:27] <maco> hahaa
[01:22] <jono> ahhh cool
[01:22] <jono> lol
[02:11] <nisshh> jono, < jono> any couchdb users here? <- my app uses it?
[07:49] <jono> czajkowski, hey
[07:49] <jono> quick note, I am going to need to reschedule our call
[07:50] <jono> I have to go to the dentist tomorrow at that time
[07:50] <jono> we can maybe do it when I get back
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <kim0> Morning everyone
[07:59] <nigelb> Morning dholbach, kim0
[07:59] <kim0> nigelb: dholbach hey
[08:00] <dholbach> hey nigelb, hey kim0
[08:18] <dpm> good morning all
[08:20] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:20] <dpm> hola dholbach!
[09:26] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:01] <czajkowski> I've never seen so many Lenny servers
[10:01] <czajkowski> at least all the desktops are Ubuntu
[10:02] <popey> I read that as "Lemmy" servers
[10:02] <popey> and felt compelled to listen to Ace of Spades
[10:05]  * czajkowski makes popey a cuppa tea, go wake up please :)
[11:41] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:58] <czajkowski> duanedesign: ello
[11:59] <kim0> duanedesign: czajkowski Morning fellas
[12:01] <czajkowski> kim0: ello how's you?
[12:21] <kim0> me is good :)
[12:22] <czajkowski> excellent
[12:52] <nigelb> So, who's coming down for Ubuntu developer day in BAngalore? ;)
[12:53] <nigelb> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntudeveloperday \o/
[15:31] <dpm> wow, that's awesome nigelb
[15:31] <dpm> ^
[15:55] <dholbach> hola jono
[15:57] <kim0> jono: howdy
[15:58] <jono> hey dholbach kim0 :-)
[15:58] <jono> just gonna find my specs and then we can get started :-)
[16:00] <dpm> oh man, this bug comment made my comedy moment of the day:
[16:00] <dpm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/52805/comments/11
[16:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 52805 in rosetta "Remove wrong suggestions like typos etc. (affects: 8) (dups: 2) (heat: 52)" [Low,Triaged]
[16:00] <dpm> "Impact of ARPANS-like legislation on minerals industry in Australia"
[16:00] <dpm> awesome
[16:02] <JFo> too funny
[16:03] <JFo> and the clear anger of the commenter is hilarious too... though I am sure they are not laughing
[16:04] <jono> dpm, dholbach, jcastro, kim0 can't find my specs, but let's roll
[16:04] <jcastro> we skyping or mumbling?
[16:04] <jono> skype
[16:04] <kim0> did u say the s word
[16:04] <jono> lol
[16:04] <kim0> ok :)
[16:05]  * popey moves the furniture around a bit at jono's place.
[16:05] <jono> popey, I knew it was you!
[16:05] <popey> \o/
[16:40] <dholbach> alright my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow!
[16:40] <JFo> enjoy dholbach :)
[16:40] <dholbach> thanks JFo :)
[17:24] <dpm> see you all tomorrow!
[17:24] <dpm> have a great rest of the day
[18:56] <Pici> pleia2: Heya, do you have a minute for a pm?
[18:57] <pleia2> Pici: busy at work at the moment, but you're welcome to PM and I'll get to it when I can
[19:16] <czajkowski> jono: no worries gives a shout when ever
[22:21] <jcastro> hey jono
[22:21] <jcastro> I have a question, and don't take this as a troll
[22:21] <jcastro> but why do you still use this site? http://identi.ca/conversation/59873512#notice-60483015
[22:22] <jcastro> I mean, isn't it just getting a little bit ridiculous?
[22:27] <jono> jcastro, which site?
[22:27] <jcastro> identica
[22:27] <jono> identi.ca
[22:27] <jono> lol
[22:28] <jono> because there are more good people than idiots there
[22:28] <jcastro> ok who is on there that isn't on twitter?
[22:28] <jono> and we never help change the world for better if we always ignore the idiots :-)
[22:28] <jono> lots of people
[22:28] <jono> a lot of people don't use Twitter because it is non-free
[22:28] <jono> and some of them are muppets, but many are not
[22:29] <jcastro> I'm just not seeing the "a lot"
[22:29] <jono> I see it when I respond in Gwibber and it only goes to identi.ca
[22:32] <jono> I see this identi.ca conversation is going to get fun
[22:40] <AlanBell> Gimp and Inkscape ftw
[23:24] <doctormo> jcastro: I don't understand why you are always so against free software, it's disheartening.
[23:24] <jcastro> where do I say I am anti-free software?
[23:26] <doctormo> jcastro: When you put down identi.ca, your not putting it down because it's unpopular, you seem to just have a problem with it because it's principled.
[23:28] <doctormo> jono: That's a good bit of news to repost, http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/blog/36942570/
[23:28] <doctormo> thanks
[23:29] <jcastro> doctormo: looking at the quality of discussion in that thread, the word "principled" doesn't make its way into my train of thought
[23:31] <doctormo> jcastro: You have different eyes, what I see is a decent conversation worth respecting.
[23:31] <jcastro> ok
[23:32] <doctormo> On a general note, it's interesting to me on the art tools side since Adobe failure to invest in the creative suite for Linux has given much needed investment to tools like Inkscape and Gimp.
[23:32] <doctormo> Which then in turn eat their market share on Windows and Mac
[23:33] <doctormo> I see it all the time on deviantArt, lots of artists use the FOSS tools as drop in replacements on Windows.
[23:34] <doctormo> Especially the artists that move from Ubuntu back to Windows (hardware incomparability is the usual problem)
[23:53] <jono> doctormo, I did do that :-)
[23:55] <czajkowski> jono: how was the dentist