[05:42] <inetpro> tumbleweed: I've thought about that as well :-)
[05:46] <inetpro> good morning
[06:01] <superfly> tumbleweed: :-D thanks again for all your help
[09:36] <zeref> hurrrmmm
[09:47]  * inetpro checks out the footprints
[09:51] <inetpro> zeref: wb
[09:54] <zeref> hi inetpro
[09:54] <inetpro> zeref: sup?
[09:55] <zeref> just reading bout this zuma painting
[09:55] <inetpro> eh
[09:56]  * inetpro thought I felt the ground shake a bit :-)
[15:53] <smile> hi :)
[15:59] <not_found> alo
[17:43] <inetpro> not_found: please go find yourself
[17:43] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[18:14] <Kilos> good evening superfly and others
[18:19] <Kilos> hmmm buncha lurkers
[18:24] <zeref>  /lurk
[18:24] <Kilos> ha ha hiya zeref
[18:29] <zeref> hi Kilos :D
[18:32] <smile> bye :)
[18:32] <Kilos> bye smile
[18:33] <smile> good night :)
[18:33] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:33] <smile> i will :D
[18:36] <Kilos> life is so lekker in durbs. you can bath once in summer and not so often in winter
[18:36] <Kilos> here in the tvl you bath sometimes twice a day just to warm up
[18:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep lekker warm
[20:06] <zeref> FFS Captcha not showing


[01:01] <TerranceWarrior> where can I get wineasio that will actually install?
[01:03] <TerranceWarrior> nevermind, i installed the 64 bit version.
[01:03] <TerranceWarrior> but repear doesn't see it?
[02:14] <holstein> delt: its not a kernel problem, if the hardware works on other hardware with the same kernel
[02:15] <holstein> delt: its something specific to the one machine that the USB hardware is being problematic with
[02:15] <delt> holstein: i'm preparing to install windows on that machine to test...
[02:16] <delt> problem is, i have to use a usb stick because the machine doesn't (yet) have a dvd drive.
[02:16] <delt> so i'm writing the windows install cd to a usb stick, see if that works =)
[02:16] <delt> if it doesn't then i'll just grab a dvd drive from another machine.
[02:17] <holstein> its not as simple as writing it there
[02:17] <holstein> i would grab the DVD, and do it the way you are intended
[02:17] <delt> works with linux install iso's doesn't it?
[02:17] <holstein> delt: sure
[02:17] <holstein> delt: and you are talking about windows, correct?
[02:18] <holstein> delt: i *did* install windows xp from USB. it was not trivial, and it was not as simple as just writing it to the USB
[02:18] <delt> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sd(x) didn't work?
[02:18] <holstein> if you want to do it "easy", just grab the DVD drive from another machine.. you are not intended to use the windows installation media from USB
[02:18] <holstein> delt: correct.. that will not work
[02:19] <delt> yeah, microsoft sucks :/
[02:19] <holstein> delt: ?
[02:19] <delt> i imagine they sabotaged it expressly so that it DOESN'T work?
[02:19] <holstein> delt: not really.. they never promised you could dd the iso
[02:19] <delt> *sigh* looks like it's screwdriver time again.....
[02:20] <delt> but i'm almost done writing it, i'll just try to see the result, out of curiosity =)
[02:20] <holstein> sure.. why not
[02:20] <TerranceWarrior> why isn't repear seeing wineasio 64 bit?
[02:21] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: its not a native application.. that can be tricky
[02:21] <delt> ok, bbl
[02:21] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i would try and find someone using it, and get some first-hand tips
[02:21] <TerranceWarrior> hm, maybe repear is 32 bit
[02:21] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: its not even native..
[02:22] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: not sure if its still true, but, i was told for wine applications, you want 32bit linux
[02:22] <TerranceWarrior> in fact it is.
[02:22] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: you can ask someone in the KXstudio camp.. they did a lot (mostly falk) to support windows VST's and reaper
[02:22] <TerranceWarrior> i answer my own quetion.
[02:22] <delt> oh i was intending to install good ol slackware on that machine to try that out too.... anyway bbl
[02:25] <TerranceWarrior> nope, now wine asio 386 doesn't want to install.
[02:25] <holstein> ok
[02:25] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: just let us konw if you have a question
[02:57] <delt> argh.... i don't have a dvd drive i can use atm :( :(
[02:57] <delt> i just have an old IDE one but this mobo doesn't have an ide connector
[02:57] <delt> and the one from the laptop won't fit, the power supply connector is too small.
[08:11] <TerranceWarrior> holstein: are you here?
[15:59] <delt> well, good news, on this motherboard there's a few USB ports on which my midi keyboard works fine :D
[15:59] <delt> (two of the 2.0 ones on the back)
[16:00] <delt> which is weird, but i'm really happy to have a working piano again!!!!
[16:01] <delt> i also had to futz around a bit with the BIOS settigs -)
[23:00] <studio-user229> bonsoir


[04:51] <saispo> cjwatson: are you here ? i have a little question for an idea :)
[04:58] <saispo> it's possible to preseed a customized ubuntu-keyring before launching install
[10:46] <aarcane> Hi, I've got an issue that seems to be above the head of everyone in #ubuntu relating to the installer.
[10:47] <aarcane> I'm in need of using hda as my primary filesystem instead of hda1, so that I can mount the device from the host os later, and so that it can be physically booted as well.
[10:48] <aarcane> I'm running the alternate CD inside qemu, with an lvm logical volume as hda.
[10:49] <aarcane> you people wrote the software, what's the magic trick that noone else knows to tell it to do this ?


[09:53] <mrqtros> bzoltan ping
[10:14] <bzoltan> mrqtros: what's up?
[10:15] <bzoltan> mrqtros:  I have seen you pings, but you hav left the channel before i could respond :)
[10:18] <mrqtros> bzoltan hello
[10:19] <mrqtros> bzoltan how can I contact someone in telegram?
[10:19] <mrqtros> bzoltan seems that I've already joined some group in it, but it looks like news group of something like that
[10:20] <mrqtros> bzoltan there no any people, just robot :)
[10:22] <mrqtros> bzoltan it is the first question. Second one about push notifications - is documentation on the Ubuntu site is correct? It looks ok. Next I looked at telegram-app source code and found their own implementation of PushClient (maybe copied) and other staff
[10:23] <mrqtros> bzoltan so I wonder can I create fully working push notifications with standard means?
[10:51] <DanChapman> mrqtros: IIRC telegram uses a copy of the PushClient from ubuntu-push-qml as they use it in the push helper. If your happy to handle notifications in the qml layer then your fine to just use the PushClient provided by Ubuntu.PushNotifications
[10:52] <mrqtros> DanChapman Hello, Dan. And why do they do it?
[10:52] <mrqtros> DanChapman Not enough performance or ... ?
[10:58] <DanChapman> I doubt it's performance related. push messages are cheap as it just parsing a bit of json. I'd assume because push helpers are run seperately to the application, and PushClient is only available as a qml component but they had a need for it in the helper. Probably for setting launcher count without the app open or something like that


[13:24] <jcastro> jrwren: I use bcache, bcachefs is something else
[13:38] <jrwren> ah, I see.
[13:39] <jrwren> nodoubleg: I'll try 6k files in a dir on ssd and see what the numbers are like.
[15:01] <jcastro> rick_h__: this phone is awesome, why did you get rid of it?
[15:01] <rick_h__> jcastro: I found I kept using the N6 I bought
[15:01] <rick_h__> jcastro: not sure what it was, but I just found I kept reaching for hte 6
[15:01] <jcastro> oh, so you just preferred the bigger screen
[15:01] <jcastro> I got one for myself just now too
[15:01] <rick_h__> jcastro: screen was a little nicer, battery life seemed a hair better
[15:02] <jcastro> rick_h__: I am in the middle of switching to project fi
[15:02] <rick_h__> jcastro: I actually went back to the motox pure the other day
[15:02] <rick_h__> since I didn't get one because of the size, but if I'm running a N6, might as well try
[15:05] <jrwren> project fi scares me. more ways for google to track my every move.
[15:05] <jcastro> shrug
[16:06] <cmaloney> Project Fi scares me: one more thing for Google to kill off. :)
[16:07] <rick_h__> yea, I've gotten to rely so much on google voice that I'm nervous
[16:07] <cmaloney> But then again, nothing is permanent
[16:07] <cmaloney> rick_h__: same
[16:07] <cmaloney> if they kill GVoice I'm screwed
[16:07] <cmaloney> I'll have to port that number or something
[16:11] <jcastro> I dropped gvoice a long time ago
[16:11] <jcastro> though, tbh, managing fi is so trivial compared to normal telco account garbage
[16:12] <jcastro> like, I need help, blam, a little gtalk widget pops up and I can talk to the guy
[16:12] <jcastro> "you are number X in line, estimated 2 minute wait"
[16:13] <jcastro> I guess having my phone company be more like aws and gmail, with little-to-zero interaction is just too nice to pass up.
[16:13] <rick_h__> my big thing is that I've just used the one number, done calls/text from the computer, internationally, all the time
[16:13] <jrwren> i thought they did kill gvoice?
[16:14] <jcastro> rick_h__: yeah but these days number portability is trivial
[16:14] <jcastro> when gvoice launched it wasn't
[16:14] <rick_h__> jcastro: right, but the computer based using of calls/texts that look like your phone number isn't?
[16:14] <jcastro> oh you mean when you call from like your PC?
[16:14] <rick_h__> right
[16:14] <rick_h__> when I travel and such I use that a ton
[16:15] <jcastro> oh ok
[16:17] <jcastro> fi has a bunch of gvoice features, I wonder what the result will be, I guess I'll call you when my number transfer is complete, heh
[16:17] <rick_h__> so I saw a rumor that in the hangouts next version it'll remove the option for sms
[16:17] <rick_h__> which is :(
[16:17] <rick_h__> because they moved sms from gvoice to hangouts
[16:17] <jcastro> hangouts is infuriating to use
[16:17] <rick_h__> so that'll kill that off and make me use my non-voice cell number for sms
[16:18] <jcastro> I love that random people's stupid streams are integrated with my sms
[16:18] <jcastro> it's like, rage inducing
[16:19] <jcastro> oh, that's something I wanted, connect my personal texts to people broadcasting their dogs on G+, awesome
[16:20]  * rick_h__ is missing the G+ -> hangouts/sms connection
[16:21] <jcastro> they consolidated everything into the hangout app
[16:21] <jcastro> so when someone you know does a hangout-on-air or whatever, it spams you
[16:22] <rick_h__> gotcha
[16:23] <jcastro> it's just like they shoved everything into a new app, which is terrible compared to the thing it replaced
[16:24] <jcastro> so you can't really turn it off
[16:25] <jcastro> Signal has pretty much everything I need
[16:25] <jcastro> and Telegram isn't awesome but it isn't horrible either so between those two things I'm set on messaging
[16:26] <rick_h__> yea, I've dodged facebook but it means I'm an SMS person all day every day
[16:27] <jcastro> signal has one bummer where the desktop app won't let me SMS to someone unless they have signal, which is a bummer
[16:27] <jcastro> apparently one-messenger-to-rule-them-all is too hard for computing. :-/
[16:28] <greg-g> Signal or fgtfo
[16:28] <rick_h__> yea, well it's too hard for businesses to get into
[16:28] <jrwren> Messages.app works :p
[16:28] <rick_h__> oh, the first f threw me off for a second
[16:28] <rick_h__> hah! jrwren brings in the wagon of trolls!
[16:29]  * rick_h__ hasn't heard of signal and looks it up
[16:29] <jrwren> i kinda like the extra irreverance of fgtfo :]
[16:29] <jrwren> signal is cool!
[16:29] <jcastro> if signal had an sms bridge for their desktop app it'd be perfect.
[16:29] <jcastro> the desktop app is admitedly beta though
[16:29] <rick_h__> but it's like telegram, it's all about getting everyone into the same app
[16:30]  * rick_h__ is so sick of app silos that you can never get everyone in
[16:30] <rick_h__> I've got telegram, whatsapp, etc already
[16:30] <rick_h__> why another one?
[16:30] <jcastro> rick_h__: signal is the only one that has end-to-end encryption
[16:30] <jrwren> yup
[16:30] <greg-g> I hate their desktop app being a chrome app :/
[16:30] <rick_h__> fine, they can listen in to what my camper will cost me, oh well
[16:30] <jcastro> it's not supposed to be like a telegram, it's a drop in replacement for your SMS app
[16:30] <rick_h__> greg-g: soon it'll be FF compatible as FF reworks apps/extensions :)
[16:31] <rick_h__> jcastro: but only if everyone else is on it?
[16:31] <jcastro> and as a bonus on android it's a better messaging app than hangouts anyway, so even if you hate freedom it's a nobrainer
[16:31] <jrwren> EVERYONE needs telegram, signal, whatsapp, slack, gitr, irc, gtalk, aim, icq, y!m, msn, skype, kik, snapchat, and a few others.
[16:31] <jcastro> rick_h__: if the other person uses signal yes
[16:31] <rick_h__> jcastro: reading the description the only "SMS" is "avoiding SMS fees"
[16:31] <jcastro> but the genius is that it's transparent
[16:31] <jrwren> greg-g: high five!


 @dohbee [i don't think snaps exist for ARM yet, and maybe no "official" anbox image. alpi …], there were some back in the 'snappy' days
 yep you can get the ubuntu core snaps
[00:35] <ubptgbot> A N was added by: A N
[00:36] <ubptgbot> <A N> Hey I was directed to this group when I tried to connect with someone on the Ubuntu phone website. I was hoping someone might be able to give me a bit of advice
[00:37] <ubptgbot> <A N> I’m looking for a really secure unhackable simple phone to replace this problematic iPhone I’m using
 "unhackable" is untrue
 well "unhackable" is a high target
 nothing is unhackable, there'll always be exploits that hackers can take advantage of
 you will have problems because all the phones bootloaders are unlocked
[00:38] <ubptgbot> <A N> But is there anything that you can’t hack just by having my phone number
[00:38] <ubptgbot> <A N> How do I protect myself then ugh I’m ready to do anything it takes
 what kind of attack are you wanting to protect against?
 are you talking about the attacks where they will take your phone number to get sms access to your account?
[00:40] <ubptgbot> <A N> Like just ppl who want to invade my privacy or record calls or just avoid being easy prey
[00:41] <ubptgbot> <A N> Like I know someone said iPhones are easy to hack all u need is the number but they also said all u need to do is reset it and it’s gone which prlly isn’t true lol
[00:41] <ubptgbot> <A N> I just want to be left alone
[00:41] <ubptgbot> <A N> Shouldn’t be so hard
[00:42] <ubptgbot> <A N> Also I do my banking online thru a phone so I need that to be safer
 a phone number hack could not compromise the entire phone
 ubuntu touch is good at limiting background services, so if you are worried about apps doing certain things with, we do have an advantage in that area
[00:43] <ubptgbot> <A N> So how do I scan for it or get rid of it or anything
[00:43] <ubptgbot> <A N> I’m not so worried about the apps
[00:44] <ubptgbot> <A N> But that’s handy
 after seeing what data facebook collects from its app ;P
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <A N> Ya I guess ppl could get to me thru there
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <A N> But if they have my number that’s pretty simple isn’t it
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <A N> I’m so lost in all this
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <A N> Everything I read says something different
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <A N> I’m tired of being violated
[00:46] <ubptgbot> <A N> I will pay to get help in this
[00:47] <ubptgbot> <A N> I don’t even care
 I'm not sure what type of number attack you are talking about
 oh, looked it up - seems that vulnerability is fixed, your firends may be misinformed and trying to scare you?
 anyway some security steps to take on any device, including ubuntu touch
 - always update … - don't install unknown things, only use app store - even then read all the permissions it can use (if you don't want to allow what it lists, don't install it)
 -don't click on links in emails, texts, don't call numbers from emails or texts ( always consult official pages to get the official support number)
 use a 2factor authentication app
 also dont punch your imei number to some page or whatever, it is used to get most of the details about you or preventing the baseband from working properly
 @mateosalta [there were some back in the 'snappy' days], I meant for anbox
 @dohbee [I meant for anbox], yeah, the probally didn't make one for ubuntu core
 althought that would be handy for a server box
 @A N [I’m not so worried about the apps], that is mostly what worries me :) but anyway, the way I think if if you don't need it don't use it. you can't hack icloud photos you don't have - so if at all possible don't use any syncing, or storage, or online services, put the phone on airplane mode, or better off so you can't be hacked whi
[01:18] <ubptgbot> le out, or better I leave mine at home while at work ( no time to really use on breaks)
 then I have diffrent phones for diffrent purposes - one that only has music loaded on it for the car ( no cell service, nothing else but music) one to do tv show stuff at home
 the other for general calling
 [Edit] and  another for general calling
 and lastly never use facebook :)
 could've bought a tablet for tv show :P
 ooo, yeah. that one will be coming once they make the pinetabs ;)
 :D
 pinetabs are great, i tell you
 i have an actual unit at home which if you want i can take pictures of it
 that could be cool, I'm sure a lot of people here would like to see
 Hello, …      I installed Ubuntu os on my OnePlus one, but it is not connecting to wifi, is there any procedure to get wifi.
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/995
[02:12] <gitbot> ubports issue 995 in ubuntu-touch "Oneplus one wifi switch after OTA6" [Bug, Device: Bacon, Open]
 this may have info you can gather to see if you have the same bug
 Friend Thank you for the reply, may be it's a big.
 Bug*
 the same happened to my opo
 something about how it gets info from a partition, some versions didn't have that info
 Did U got fixed?
 I haven't touched my opo in a long time :)
 Oh ok!
 Let me try if I can fix, any way thank you .
 Oh, who is on the volla port - from here https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/wiki/High-level-epic-overview-for-Ubuntu-Touch-port am i right in thinking you have some drivers for fm or nfc?
 if so qt-master has example apps, I have had sucess compiling many of them to run
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 @Wolf [Hello, …      I installed Ubuntu os on my OnePlus one, but it is not connecting to …], As already someone posted you can try to create yourself a config file with a new MAC address. The instructions are under the above link I rhink
 Thanks! Florian, I am on it.
 @Wolf [Thanks! Florian, I am on it.], Unfortunately 2 flavors existed for the OPO it seems, while we fixed the issue for the one we broke wifi for the other lol
 May be.
 @Wolf [May be.], Well I know I did those repairs. The problem was that all OPO devices had the same MAC address. So people with 2 or more OPOs in the same house had huge troubles in using WiFi. I fixed that but then other OPO users complained about lost WiFi ;)
 »  The problem was that all OPO devices had the same MAC address « … On my Sony X X too ... My first device has in 5GHz Wlan the same MAC-Adress how the second device on 2,4 GHz. … After an update and reboot, both device has the same adress. On their fist starts every day is this not, it's ok ... … 🤷🏻♂
 @FJW_Schnettler [»  The problem was that all OPO devices had the same MAC address « … On my Sony X …], Well the same MAC for 5 and 2.4 should not matter, does it?
 I don't now but I can tested it ... i had it seen in the router device ....
 @FJW_Schnettler [I don't now but I can tested it ... i had it seen in the router device ....], The WiFi card is the same why it should have 2 different MACs ?
 @Flohack [The WiFi card is the same why it should have 2 different MACs ?], ❓ … Testing pass ... …  ... On my first Sony X X after the first boot in 5GHz are this MAC (not all codes..😎)  ::AF:33:7C:E0 and in 2,4GHz ::4C:11:22:33. … In a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗in all WLan Ghz ... … The second Sony X X had
[10:05] <ubptgbot>  after the first boot in 5Ghz this MAC ::4C:11:22:33 the same on the frist Sony X X❗and in 2,4 GHz ::EA:3E:D5:5D … Also here in a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗in all WLan Ghz ... … Sometimes also not in such a way ... 🤷🏻♂ … I can seen it on the Router (FritzBox 7390) … I know its peculiarly, magic ...🙈 … If the MAC's are
[10:05] <ubptgbot> same in the two devices and the WLan GHz others, both devices in Wlan good. 🤷🏻♂ … Then I am confused very much...🤪
 @Flohack [The WiFi card is the same why it should have 2 different MACs ?], [Edit] ❓ … Testing passed ... …  ... On my first Sony X X after the first boot in 5GHz are this MAC (not all codes..😎)  ::AF:33:7C:E0 and in 2,4GHz ::4C:11:22:33. … In a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗in all WLan Ghz ... … The second Son
[10:08] <ubptgbot> y X X had after the first boot in 5Ghz this MAC ::4C:11:22:33 the same on the frist Sony X X❗and in 2,4 GHz ::EA:3E:D5:5D … Also here in a lot after boots most used the MAC ::4C:11:22:33 ❗in all WLan Ghz ... … Sometimes also not in such a way ... 🤷🏻♂ … I can seen it on the Router (FritzBox 7390) … I know its peculiarly, magic ...🙈 … If the M
[10:08] <ubptgbot> AC's are same in the two devices and the WLan GHz others, both devices in Wlan good. 🤷🏻♂ … Then I am confused very much...🤪
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 @mateosalta [if so qt-master has example apps, I have had sucess compiling many of them to ru …], interesting, thanks
 for NFC there is Sailfish middleware that can be packaged
 (Photo, 1080x2160) https://irc.ubports.com/7vpSaBOk.png
 Can regular ubports get volte as well now?
 @ItsMeShouko [Can regular ubports get volte as well now?], Sure if someone adds it ^^
 @Flohack [Sure if someone adds it ^^], *proceeds to spam erfan* jk lol
 @ItsMeShouko [*proceeds to spam erfan* jk lol], Ah you mean Android phones?
 Or Pinephone? Android = we must reverse engineer a lot of code, I dont think this will come early. But, if you are lucky your modem already does VoLTE by default. YOu wont notice it except better audio quality
 Basically, yes
 So then no ^^ This is on Pinephone, where things are open source ^^
 My modem does support volte, but I switched to other operator to get calls on sfos and ubports
 [Edit] My modem does support volte, but I switched to other operator (non volte only) to get calls on sfos and ubports
 So your operator does VoLTE only?
 Yes
 @ItsMeShouko [Yes], Thats a pity then. VoLTE is a proprietary technology and each vendor implements it a bit differently. So far nobody had the chance to analyze this and it will be superhard without source code
 @Flohack [Thats a pity then. VoLTE is a proprietary technology and each vendor implements …], I read somewhere that ofono supports (with a few changes) volte on mtk chipsets
 @ItsMeShouko [I read somewhere that ofono supports (with a few changes) volte on mtk chipsets], Find this please. I doubt it
 Okay will try searching
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 @Flohack [Find this please. I doubt it], I saw it a year back, someone was stating it in some issue in a github repo, can't find anymore, maybe the repo/issue got delted
 @Flohack [Find this please. I doubt it], [Edit] I saw it a year back, someone was stating it in some issue in a github repo, can't find anymore, maybe the repo/issue got deleted
 @ItsMeShouko [I saw it a year back, someone was stating it in some issue in a github repo, can …], Nice
 Just managed to install UBports to a Oneplus 6, but it asks for a password which I never entered during the initial setup process. What can I do?
 is it 0000 ?
 Nope
 leave empty? Ubuntu? Phablet?
 probably `phablet`
 @TomasOqvist [Just managed to install UBports to a Oneplus 6, but it asks for a password which …], phablet
 i think it's not a properly supported device yet and using GSI orsuch
 @dohbee [i think it's not a properly supported device yet and using GSI orsuch], EY!
 It is
 @mrcyjanek [phablet], Bang, there it is! Thanks
 I have built my own GSI for it
 And it works
 @TomasOqvist [Bang, there it is! Thanks], but keep sim in slot 2
 Thanks, that works too ☺!
 @TomasOqvist [Thanks, that works too ☺!], c:
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[17:29] <ubptgbot> Benni was added by: Benni
[17:51] <ubptgbot> Pe was added by: Pe
 What qt is used rn
 still 5.9
 Ok
 I knew the update hadn't happened
 I just couldn't remember which version
 I think they might have been working on the qtwebengine version
 qtwebengine is 5.14 in devel
 Does anyone know if Webber stores click files for the webapps it installs - and if so what folder these would be found in?  I want to make backups of the ones I have created so that I can save time if I want to have them on other devices or after a system reset and restore.
[19:01] <ubptgbot> Fran was added by: Fran
 `find . -type d -name "*webber*"` ?
 @dohbee [find . -type d -name "*webber*" ?], Thanks - will try that. I've looked in my .local and .cache folders and hadn't found anything yet.
 it might delete the files after the content-hub sending is done
 but you can choose to "open" with file manager and just save it wherever, no?
[19:24] <ubptgbot> ukiterus was added by: ukiterus
 one question, is there specific documentation for the pinephone? because i see the oficial documentation does not apply
 what specifically doesn't apply?
[19:35] <ubptgbot> Super Hasan was added by: Super Hasan
 Hello, gys
 I hardly, can see qhen im typing on ubuntu Touch . just install today.
 i really like the phone. and ui.
 @dohbee [what specifically doesn't apply?], how to connect using ssh? adb works with the pinephone?
 Adb doesn't work with the pinephone
 @Fran [how to connect using ssh? adb works with the pinephone?], adb doesn't work. you need to set up ssh. somehow you need to get your public key onto the phone and added to `~/.ssh/authorized_keys` (self-message, pastebin, or gitlab/github/launchpad ssh key pages are common ways to do this), and run `sudo start ssh` on the device; then y
[20:22] <ubptgbot> ou can connect to ssh over wifi
 hopefully at some point in the future we can get adb working though
 ok thanks for the info, this drives me to the next question how do i access to the phone using cable? i know how to do it with nexus5 but here i am lost.
 there is no user-friendly way at the moment. mtp and adb do not work yet on pinephone.
 ook thanks!
[22:21] <ubptgbot> arthurabdulin was added by: arthurabdulin
 Hello All, has anyone got issue with time zone synchronisation from Next Cloud Calendar? It appears Next Cloud events show +1 in Ubuntu Touch Calendar.
 @dohbee [adb doesn't work. you need to set up ssh. somehow you need to get your public ke …], Just use scp to copy ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub from your pc to your phone and add it's contents to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
 @bettehem [Just use scp to copy ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub from your pc to your phone and add it's c …], you can't do that of course when the key isn't already added
 password auth is not supported
 Yes you can. Use scp on the phone to copy the key from the pc
 ok, maybe sure; the point is you need some other way than connecting to the phone from the PC, to do it
 Yes, but what I'm saying is that scp is far more straight forward than having to first upload the key somewhere from the pc and then go download it on the mobile device. … With scp you can do it with one command
 @dohbee [ok, maybe sure; the point is you need some other way than connecting to the phon …], You shouldn't connect to the phone from the pc, you should connect from the phone to the pc. I never said that the point was somewhere else. I just gave a better suggestion on how to go about copying the key over
 @bettehem [You shouldn't connect to the phone from the pc, you should connect from the phon …], why are you trying to argue with me. the wording you originally replied to me with suggested something else. i am not trying to bloody argue with you so chill
 Im not either. Sorry if the wording wasn't clear enough. What I meant was to use scp(on the phone) to copy the file from the pc to the phone
 @dohbee sorry, not trying to argue.


[18:00] <rickfosb> Hello hannie
[18:00] <hannie> Hey rickfosb
[18:01] <hannie> Hello stillnotcool
[18:01] <hannie> rickfosb, do you know who will be attending?
[18:02] <rickfosb> C7p said he'd try but might be late;  There were only 4 on the vote list
[18:02] <hannie> ok
[18:03] <rickfosb> me, you, john, I'll have to go look again at the poll
[18:03] <hannie> stillnotcool, present?
[18:04] <rickfosb> hannie: your changes, and c7p changes are committed and pushed.. they look good
[18:04] <rickfosb> godbyk: you there?
[18:04] <hannie> ok, I still have to look at the last part, swerching
[18:04] <hannie> *searching
[18:04] <rickfosb> :)
[18:05] <rickfosb> I put up some screen shots, but I need to print and re-read this chapter to see what else is lacking
[18:05] <hannie> rickfosb, I have received a few extra lines of text from Mez for the Prologue, but
[18:05] <hannie> I want to wait until it is clear where to refer to
[18:06] <hannie> So I haven't pushed the changed chapter yet
[18:06] <rickfosb>  where to refer to ... ??
[18:06] <rickfosb> in the prologue?
[18:07] <hannie> I do not yet know where Unity is described
[18:07] <hannie> Not troubleshooting
[18:07] <hannie> It should be in Ubuntu Desktop
[18:07] <rickfosb> ah, ok.  I think, Unity is being touched most in chapter two and we've decided to rename to the Unity Desktop
[18:08] <hannie> ok, chapter 2 IS Ubuntu-Desktop
[18:08] <rickfosb> C7p did a lot of work around the panel and lenses, etc in the chapter.  Yes, Ch. 2
[18:09] <hannie> I will refer to this. Is there also a section name?
[18:09] <rickfosb> just a second and I'll check
[18:09] <hannie> Like "Unity"
[18:10] <hannie> I will look at what c7p wrote later
[18:10] <rickfosb> Understanding the Unity Desktop   is the section
[18:10] <rickfosb> (had to go look it up) grin
[18:10] <hannie> ok. I have two question
[18:11] <rickfosb> sure?
[18:11] <hannie> 1. Is this chapter almost finished now, and can I find the latest version in the branch?
[18:11] <hannie> I updated a few minutes ago, but it is still Revision 11 from 14 aug
[18:12] <rickfosb> yes; to both parts.  Its almost finished,  I did the updates for c7p a week back.  and yes, as I look at the revisions, most of the recent ones are the ones I've put up
[18:12] <hannie> hi JasonO-Mobile
[18:13] <hannie> ok, then question 2: screenshots. Nautilus is still the same, so I do not think another screenshot is needed here
[18:14] <rickfosb> Right, I checked the shot in the pdf and compared to the natty; I think we are good for screenshot of tha
[18:14] <rickfosb> *that one
[18:15] <rickfosb> I did do a new screen shot of the blank desktop
[18:15] <hannie> right. Then I will do some homework: go through the whole chapter
[18:15] <hannie> and see if I like the result
[18:15] <rickfosb> I have a bullet point for managing windows without an update;  I'll check with the author and see where he is on getting that subsection complete.
[18:16] <JasonO-Mobile> Hi hannie
[18:16] <hannie> rickfosb, do we need to give JasonO-Mobile an update?
[18:16] <rickfosb> I will also set up a regular meeting for the entire team to discuss overall progress (agenda et.al.,)  Its time to clean up the rest of the chapters.
[18:17] <rickfosb> Hey Joson0-Mobile:
[18:17] <JasonO-Mobile> Hi rickfosb
[18:18] <rickfosb> Here is where we are:  Chapter two the ubuntu desktop is coming along now;  I have a few screenshots that will need updating and will place TODO entries in the tex file later this evening.
[18:19] <Testy> Awesome rickfosb
[18:20] <hannie> JasonO-Mobile, do you have the link to the shared spreadsheet?
[18:20] <rickfosb> I need to spend some time in CH 3 "Working with Ubuntu" and confirm their progress.  I didn't see a revision that appears to be part of that effort.
[18:21] <Testy> hannie: I think so? Is it the alternative softwares one?
[18:21] <hannie> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CNDambUJ&key=0AtkeORuPIMxsdGtWRXlvdHB4bktTNkF5LTNwWU5KQnc&hl=en_US&authkey=CNDambUJ#gid=6
[18:22] <Guest78948> hannie: Thanks, I didn't.
[18:22] <hannie> rickfosb, before the regular meeting, do we need do do some preparing stuff?
[18:23] <rickfosb> hannie: What would you suggest?  I'm ok with putting something together?
[18:24] <hannie> I am thinking of coordination, pressing people to finish their chapter, check screenshlts
[18:24] <hannie> * never mind the typos ;)
[18:25] <hannie> And: perhaps we can ask on the list if people want to add something to the agenda
[18:25] <rickfosb> Sure, I have a few hours today. I will reach out to editors to confirm their updates.  And, I'll spend some time marking existing screen shots for update.     PS: c7p has put together an excellent section on alternative applications.
[18:26] <hannie> he's good (c7p
[18:26] <rickfosb> We just need to decide where the best location (subsection, or new chapter)
[18:26] <hannie> rickfosb, is there anything I can do
[18:26] <rickfosb> I really like him!
[18:27] <rickfosb> hannie: just let me know if something looks amis with ch2;  I'll be working it today and printing ch3 for review tonight
[18:28] <hannie> rickfosb, ok, I will read it carefully and let you know if I see something that needs attention
[18:28] <hannie> Will the regular meeting be in about one or two weeks from now?
[18:28] <rickfosb> I'll build an agenda before I send out the general meeting notice and send you, john, kevin, et. al before the poll goes out..
[18:28] <rickfosb> I'm thinking 2 weeks?
[18:29] <hannie> when is the deadline, I forgot
[18:29] <JasonO-Mobile> Any adverts needed? :D
[18:29] <rickfosb> (we were supposed to have entered content freeze this weekend)  I thinking I'll have to ask for an extension
[18:29] <hannie> oops!!!!!
[18:30] <rickfosb> yes; oops..  The milestones were rather aggressive, but I had high hopes :)
[18:30] <hannie> I'll hurry with the Prologue chapter (tomorrow, I promise ;)
[18:30] <rickfosb> no worries
[18:30] <rickfosb> are you able to do bzr now?
[18:30] <hannie> that's it for today then?
[18:31] <hannie> rickfosb, yes bzr is fine
[18:31] <rickfosb> and yes to your question: hannie:
[18:31] <hannie> ok, see you nest time then
[18:31] <hannie> *next
[18:31] <rickfosb> Thanks SOOO much for your help!
[18:31] <hannie> bye, bye
[18:31] <rickfosb> Jason0 -- adverts?
[18:32] <rickfosb> Jason0-Mobile:  adverts?
[18:33] <JasonO-Mobile> rickfosb advertisements. Anything I should publicize?
[18:34] <rickfosb> We'll be having a general team meeting within the next two weeks to review our progress.  It would be great to have a good turnout.
[18:35] <rickfosb> I'll put out the poll and proposed agenda either later today or tomorrow (depending on time spent on ch2/3)..
[18:35] <rickfosb> I'd appreciate anything you can do there?
[18:35] <JasonO-Mobile> Alright.
[18:36] <rickfosb> I send to the ubuntu-manual email list;  or i can email you directly?
[18:37] <rickfosb> ( it would really be great to have some of our work discussed on ubuntu planet or the fridge)
[18:37] <JasonO-Mobile> rickfosb: Sure, I'll Tweet.
[18:37] <rickfosb> :)
[18:37] <rickfosb> Thanks!...,
[18:38] <rickfosb> Any other questions?
[18:38] <JasonO-Mobile> Sure, I'll ask. No problem.
[18:38] <rickfosb> Have a great remainder of the weekend, then.  And thanks for attending.
[18:39] <JasonO-Mobile> No that's it. Thanks.
[18:39] <rickfosb> See you!
[19:06] <c7p> hello
[19:07] <c7p> godbyk: what's up ?


[00:59] <chevelle> hi poeple, one question
[01:00] <chevelle> i need remove namoroka and reinstall firefox
[01:02] <chevelle> i remove namoroka but i try install firefox and install namoroka again
[01:08] <poyntz> the last update killed nvidia
[01:08] <well_laid_lawn> namorka is just firefox with a diff name
[01:08] <poyntz> as in, my graphics driver fails
[01:09] <well_laid_lawn> poyntz: you have to rebuild nvidia for each new kernel
[01:09] <poyntz> any ideas on how to fix this? so far i've tried purging nvidia-common, nvidia-current and nvidia-modaliases and rebooting and then reinstalling
[01:09] <poyntz> *nvidia-current-modalises
[01:09] <poyntz> well_laid_lawn: pls explain
[01:10] <well_laid_lawn> each new kernel needs the nvidia driver built just for it
[01:10] <poyntz> well_laid_lawn: how do i do that?
[01:10] <well_laid_lawn> same as you did the first time - but for the new kernel
[01:11] <poyntz> well_laid_lawn: i thought it automatically did it for my current kernel. if it doesn't how do i select a kernel to do that for?
[01:12] <Torch> poyntz: if you don't mess with it, it will.
[01:13] <Torch> poyntz: like install nvidia drivers from their web site.
[01:15] <poyntz> Torch: just did. i'll reboot now & tell you how it goes
[01:32] <poyntz> Torch: thanks before. reinstalling the nvidia graphics driver from the website, solved it :)
[01:32] <Torch> pookito: my advice: don't waste your time with this. just use the kubuntu provided one.
[01:32] <Torch> wah.
[01:32] <Torch> pookito: sorry for the noise.
[01:53] <crazy6> blargh why won't X start... I tried this exotic Wubi installation, and X won't come up, saying "Kernel Modesetting driver in use"
[02:28] <teb_> Hi there, Anyone want to help a n00b?
[02:30] <urgen> depends
[02:30] <teb_> Well, I am a noob, now that's sayd, Well, I accidently removed my "Start meny" and the whole line. How can I get it back?
[02:31] <teb_> Do I manualy have to add everything back, or is it some way I can get it bacl?
[02:34] <lubun2> teb_, is it basically the default? meaning not customized?
[02:34] <teb_> yes
[02:35] <lubun2> if you can get to a konsole just delete the ~user/.kde and then reboot will re-create it
[02:35] <teb_> oh, lets try it out :D
[02:36] <lubun2> or ctl+alt+Fx will get you a tty
[02:37] <lubun2> then login, stop kdm
[02:37] <lubun2> then delete the ~user/.kde
[02:37] <teb_> ok, thanks m8
[02:37] <teb_> Il check it ouy
[02:37] <teb_> **out
[02:37] <lubun2> then sudo kdm will log you back in w/o rebooting
[03:05] <mpadair00> hello
[03:10] <FloridaGuy> can i get a repo for kde 4.5 rc3
[03:39] <draik> Is there a package for package for encoding and decoding base64?
[04:26] <draik> Can someone recommend a site or channel for the explanation of telnet/IMAP?
[04:28] <derick_> #kubuntu-es
[05:05] <mick__> g'day all whats crackalackin?
[05:11] <mick__> does anyone chat on here? lol
[05:14] <Tm_T> mick__: sure, when it's needed, kindly familiarise yourself with channel topic to find out what we're here
[05:16] <mick__> what is the channel topic? this is my 1st time here
[05:18] <mick__> never mind i got it :) how do i join other chats on here??
[05:20] <mick__> anyone?
[05:21] <Tm_T> /join #channelname
[05:22] <mick__> is there a list i can choose from tm_t?
[05:22] <draik> mick__: Use the /list command
[05:22] <draik> Will take a while
[05:23] <Tm_T> or alis
[05:23] <maco> alis is better
[05:23] <maco> the size of /list could knock your client offline
[05:23] <mick__> ok thanks
[05:23] <Tm_T> so /msg alis help for help with it
[05:24] <mick__> thanks :)
[05:51] <Optimus55> hey what's the requirements to use plymouth?
[05:53] <alesan> hi! how can I listen to an internet radio without using that bloated beast that is amarok?
[05:53] <alesan> is there another small program for that?
[06:17] <Optimus55> hey how do i manage startup services in kubuntu 10.04
[06:17] <Optimus55> ?
[06:21] <alesan> /etc/init.d/servicename start
[06:21] <alesan> put a sudo in front of it if you are not root
[06:21] <Optimus55> alesan: i want to see which services run on startup ( bluetooth, etc) then select the ones i don't wnat
[06:22] <alesan> oh sorry I totally misread your question
[06:22] <alesan> I think your question is anyway answered by any system V guide
[06:23] <Optimus55> system V?
[06:24] <alesan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init
[06:24] <alesan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d39izaupvEg
[06:25] <victor_> sudo systemsettings
[06:25] <victor_> advanced - service manager
[06:25] <Optimus55> alesan: thanks a lot!
[06:26] <Optimus55> victor_: checking into that now
[07:04] <pushkaraj> join #kate
[07:29] <ubiman1> please help me
[07:31] <pushkaraj> hello, i am getting -> error : Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_library" while compiling kate
[07:31] <pushkaraj> do anyone know about this ?  They called TUKS...
[08:00] <[daemon]> He is banging your mom
[08:01] <IdleOne> [daemon]: don't feed the trolls and remember the code of conduct please
[08:01] <IdleOne> !ops | Yoeschua
[08:01] <Yoeschua> daemon brotha: can I help you?
[08:02]  * [daemon] us just a script
[08:17] <magic_> hello
[08:19] <magic_> I put on the automatic access to kubuntu, now I want it the manual where I go in kubuntu?
[08:37] <peter__> cisao
[08:37] <peter__> hi
[08:56] <Yoeschua> Hosanna bruderz
[08:56] <Yoeschua> 'Alleluyya
[08:56] <Yoeschua> willkommT auz TroLLzlAnD
[08:56] <Yoeschua> HeaWy TrOlLz AtTAk WarNin'
[08:57] <Yoeschua> Where is da penguin?
[10:06] <kaddi> Hi,
[10:07] <kaddi> my PC has started freezing after installing last weeks updates (10.04 64bit). Is there a way to remove all updates installed in the last 14 days?
[10:49] <david__> ehi
[10:49] <david__> ciao a tutti
[10:50] <david__> do you understand me?
[10:50] <david__> fuck.
[11:45] <ubuntu51> hellp
[11:45] <ubuntu51> hello
[11:45] <ubuntu51> im kubuntu plasma in ubuntu
[11:46] <ubuntu51> what do u think
[11:46] <ubuntu51> do u think is stable to used kubuntu plasma under ubuntu
[12:15] <octet> hello, i just installed Kubuntu 10.04 and i cant figure it out how to set up 5,1 sound
[13:38] <slow-motion> hi
[13:41] <pushkaraj> slow-motion: Hi
[13:42] <slow-motion> hi pushkaraj
[13:49] <michiduta> Is there a Kubuntu GUI for setting ntfs partitions to auto-mount at startup?
[13:52] <Torch> michiduta: #kubuntu
[13:52] <James147> michiduta: ntfs-config
[13:52] <Torch> oops. we _aŕe_ in kubuntu ;-)
[13:52]  * Torch is confused once more.
[13:52] <James147> Torch:  :)
[13:53] <michiduta> Any other suggestions, Torch? :)
[13:55] <michiduta> Is it true that ntfs-3g is no longer needed with newer kernels such as the one that is installed with kubuntu 10.04?
[13:55] <Torch> michiduta: can't you just edit /etc/fstab and be done with it?
[13:55] <Torch> michiduta: not as far as  i know.
[13:55] <James147> michiduta: ntfs-config is the easiet way to add ntfs entreys to /etc/fstab
[13:56] <michiduta> Ok , thanks
[13:56] <James147> ^^gui as well
[14:16] <dbc254> What backup program does everyone use?
[14:17] <James147> dbc254: I found luckybackup worked well for me, havnt tryed many others
[14:45] <yanfreddo> buona sera
[14:45] <yanfreddo> non c'è nessuno
[14:45] <yanfreddo> salve
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:03] <tuxick> lo
[15:04] <tuxick> after login my "recently used" only contains some urls, no apps
[15:04] <tuxick> is that normal? afair it would also remember apps?
[15:05] <tuxick> where is this data stored anyway?
[15:06] <James147> tuxick: mine only contains documents/paths... dont remember seeing it contain applications but then again I never really used it much
[15:09] <tuxick> i'm quite sure it worked as expected on gentoo
[15:15] <tuxick> it also looks like "most used" isn't working
[15:20] <James147> tuxick: most used?
[15:20] <James147> in what?
[15:20] <tuxick> in the thing that used to be called kicker, i think
[15:20] <tuxick> kde of course
[15:20] <James147> kmenu?
[15:21] <tuxick> kickoff? i lost track of all those names
[15:21] <tuxick> ye could be
[15:21]  * James147 fails to find a "most used" button :S
[15:22] <tuxick> there's "favourites" "applications" "computer" "recently used"
[15:22] <tuxick> and both favourites and "recently used" seem to be failing
[15:22] <James147> and leave ^^
[15:22] <tuxick> :)
[15:22] <James147> why is favourites failing? nothing listed?
[15:23] <tuxick> yes, but only while running
[15:23] <tuxick> after reboot it only contains urls
[15:23] <tuxick> oooh sorry
[15:24] <tuxick> favourites just never gets updated
[15:24] <tuxick> OR reset after reboot, hard to tell
[15:24] <tuxick> i don't know how smart it is, or how it counts
[15:24] <James147> tuxick: favourites is a static list...
[15:24] <tuxick> oh, why?
[15:24] <tuxick> afair even windows has that dynamic
[15:24] <James147> tuxick: application > findd an application > right click it > add ot favrouites
[15:24] <yanfreddo> non capiscon
[15:24] <tuxick> oh ok, cheers
[15:25] <tuxick> but the "recently used" is another story
[15:25] <yanfreddo> iitaliano paela qualchino
[15:25] <yanfreddo> ???
[15:25] <tuxick> quack!
[15:25] <yanfreddo> che caspita
[15:25] <yanfreddo> pronto
[15:25] <yanfreddo> non c'è nessuno qui
[15:25] <James147> does it really need to be dynamic? i dont find the menus that complicated that i need a list of most used applications :) and the way fravourits works is exactly how i want it, things I ahve picked :)
[15:26] <James147> !es | yanfreddo
[15:26] <tuxick> well, combined with a working 'recently used' it'd be ok
[15:26] <yanfreddo> grazie
[15:30] <yanfreddo> mmmmhhhh..
[15:55] <powerinside> How to upgrade my firefox 3.6 to firefox 4.0 pre release one? Not fresh/seperate install. Need an upgrade
[16:01] <James147> powerinside: cant see a ppa or .deb so I would think you ened to compile it from source...
[16:01] <DarthFrog> Or wait for it to become available in backports.
[16:02] <powerinside> James147: actually, i was able to install it through some rep but it went as clean install of it. my old ffox exists
[16:02] <James147> DarthFrog: betas dont usually end up in backports :)  but it might end up in the beta ppa
[16:02] <James147> powerinside: then "sudo aptitude uninstall firefox" should get rid of the other version
[16:03] <powerinside> james147: Yes I know that.. but I want to get all my plugins and settings on the pre release one
[16:04] <James147> powerinside: uninstalling dosnt normally remove user level config files
[16:04] <James147> not even sure purging dose that...?
[16:04] <powerinside> James147: What about the extensions, personas ? sure? But I dont see them coming in the 4.0
[16:05] <James147> powerinside: I dont even know if they are compatable with 4.0...
[16:05] <James147> powerinside: nor where it gets it settings from now...
[16:05] <powerinside> James147: Well on windows it was. and upgrading was easy on it
[16:05] <James147> or if the way you installed it changes where it gets its settings
[16:09] <James147> downloading it form the mozilla site and running it here seems to have remembered at least its last opened tabs...
[16:21] <cybercrasher> Hi all
[16:21] <cybercrasher> sorry... there is a kubuntu-it room?
[16:22] <DarthFrog> !it
[16:52] <rosiepossie> My essid is not setting correctly with iwconfig under command line iwl3945 module intel 3945ABG wireless. any suggestions?
[16:58] <rmrfslash> Should I install 4.5 RC2?
[16:58] <James147> rmrfslash: short answer: no
[16:58] <rmrfslash> Anyone using it? Can you testify for it's stability?
[16:58] <rmrfslash> really? is it that buggy?
[16:59] <rmrfslash> it's an release candidate
[16:59] <rmrfslash> bummer.
[16:59] <James147> rmrfslash: RC releases arnt good for a production computer so thats my answer for all rcs :) but kde 4.5 RC2 dose seem stable enough to use at least for me
[16:59] <James147> rmrfslash: but final is going to be out in about a week if you can wait that long :)
[16:59] <rmrfslash> James147: I live life slightly on the edge
[17:00] <rmrfslash> Yeah but I'd rather grab it now than when all the kids are having at it
[17:00] <rmrfslash> I figure it's pretty much stable minus any major show-stopping bugs
[17:00] <James147> rmrfslash: I have been using it for ages without any issue, but with final just around the corner its probally best just to wait for that :)
[17:01] <rmrfslash> Ehhhhh....I'm gunna install it
[17:01] <rmrfslash> :D
[17:01] <rmrfslash> I just reinstalled this machine recently
[17:01] <rmrfslash> might as well
[17:02] <rmrfslash> As long as no one said "don't do it, it's one giant bug"
[17:03] <rmrfslash> Ehh, maybe I'll wait.
[17:05] <gabriel9> hallo people
[17:05] <gabriel9> anyone have PlasMate deb package
[17:06] <rmrfslash> Mostly because I don't want to have the kubuntu beta in my apt sources
[17:14] <DarthFrog> kde 4.5 RC3 was released about a week ago.  Not available for Kubuntu yet.
[17:15] <DarthFrog> RC3 was released on July 26.
[17:16] <James147> DarthFrog: you know why it hasent been packaged for kubuntu? kde 4.5 was emnt to be released a couple days ago (although now delayed for a week)
[17:17] <DarthFrog> No idea.  Perhaps Riddell and the boys are too busy with Maverick.
[17:18] <Riddell> there's your answer right there, 4.5 is due to be released
[17:18] <DarthFrog> Riddell: Thank you for that.
[17:22] <James147> Riddell: so i take it RC3 was just skipped then?
[17:26] <Riddell> James147: yes, upstream only ever ment it to be a source release anyway
[17:26] <James147> Riddell: Thanks :)
[17:27] <DarthFrog> Well that explains why the KDE page has no links to any binary packages for any distro.
[17:59] <TanEk_> hi guys, I have a multimedia "Logitech Wireless Wave" keyboard that has its multimedia/special keys not recognized by the system
[17:59] <TanEk_> what can I do to make them recognized? I have heard about keytouch
[18:28] <urgen> tanek. so I type in linux logitech keyboard and the answer appears to show up in right there at the top
[18:28] <urgen> of google
[18:37] <urgen> tanek, just don't blame me when:
[18:37] <urgen> Banned from WoW for using a programmable keyboard
[18:37] <urgen> Yes, I am part of a 0.2% userbase of people playing WoW on Linux.
[18:37] <urgen> saw that on the same google search
[18:42] <MeanderingCode> Hello all.  Anyone know why my fglrx (10.7 from ATI) would produce 'Extension "Composite" enabled' and much further along "Composite extension is not loaded" in my Xorg log?
[18:55] <darthdarkstar> How does one enable 5.1 surround sound in Kubuntu? Was easy in Ubuntu but can't figure out how to do it this way...
[18:56] <darthdarkstar> Anyone here?
[18:57] <James147> darthdarkstar: there is, just none that know how to fix that problem :( best bet is to try the forums or ask again later
[18:58] <James147> darthdarkstar: there is, just none that know how to fix that problem :( best bet is to try the forums or ask again later
[18:58] <urgen> hehe
[18:59] <darthdarkstar> Yeah... Doesn't seem as easy as it is in Ubuntu... In there ya just switch it via a scrolldown menu... sooo simple...hehe
[18:59] <urgen> easy comes and goes
[18:59] <James147> kde is still missing a few things ^^ but is improving rapidly :)
[18:59] <urgen> for years now
[19:00] <darthdarkstar> Yeah... There's got to be a spot to switch it though... I've been through all the system settings and all so I'm lost now
[19:00] <darthdarkstar> Maybe I'll ask the KDE guys
[19:00] <James147> urgen: ^^ and from almost a complete rewite its come along quite quickly
[19:01] <urgen> that was my first point
[19:01] <urgen> :-)
[19:01] <urgen> the tides of technology wash away any sand castle
[19:01] <darthdarkstar> Well, I'll gp ask the KDE guys then
[19:02]  * James147 waits in the #kde channel ^^ :)
[19:02]  * urgen watches the space walk on nasatv
[19:10] <TanEk_> urgen, well I installed this keytouch thing and now I have half of my special keys working
[19:10] <TanEk_> the most important for me is the sound control working
[19:11] <TanEk_> but what I am worried is like I needed to install this keytouch thing, I am a lambda user will never find that out
[19:11] <TanEk_>  /s/I am/I mean
[19:19] <urgen> my laptop keyboard just works I selected "has euro symbol" during install
[19:19] <urgen> volume, everything else works fine
[19:28] <Alkerzor> can anyone point me toward a resource on scaling notifications?
[19:32] <an1> hey. im installing kubuntu 10.04.. i created 2 partitions apart from swap. can i have both as ext 4? what do i specify in mount point?
[19:33] <James147> an1: yes you can have both as ext4
[19:34] <an1> James147: what do i specify in mount point?
[19:34] <James147> an1: as for the mount point, one would need to be / (the root file system) and the other can be where ever you like... most people have it at /home so all user data is on a seperate partition
[19:34] <James147> an1: note that the / partition dosnt need to be much bigger then 10-20 gig
[19:35] <ep> On 10.04 I have a taskbar on the panel.  How do I configure this taskbar it to show icons only (no text)?  This reduces clutter and looks nicer IMO.
[19:35] <James147> ep: remove the widget "task manager" and replace it with the widget"smooth tasts" (might need to install it, think its in the repos one sec
[19:36] <an1> James147: i plan to use / for boot and system files. and packages. and the other partition for development.
[19:36] <an1> ive divided 80gb-80gb
[19:37] <James147> an1: if its purly for development files then /media/development (or what you want to call it) will do, or you can mount it directly in your home drive (/home/USERNAME/Workspace or what you want to call it)
[19:38] <James147> an1: personally I choose a 20 gig for /, and use the rest for /home but its purly up to you
[19:39] <James147> an1: in unix drives are mounted to an empty folder, so that any file placed or created tehre will be on that drive... so you just mount it where you want to place the files
[19:40] <an1> ok.. so id rather use 25 gigs for / , including user files. so can i leave the other blank? it says i wont be able to use it later
[19:41] <James147> an1: so you just have to set the mount point to the directoy where you are going to store the files
[19:42] <James147> an1: ^^ if you dont plan on having many large user files that would work, i wouldnt leave the otherne blank... you will just have to set it up later
[19:42] <James147> an1: /media/development  should do, once the system is installed you can syslink that location to where you want
[19:43] <ep> James147: I searched "smooth tasks" in kpackagekit and came up zilch.   I have a hard time using kpackage kit though.  I don't understand the interface :(
[19:43] <James147> ep: plasma-widget-smooth-tasks   :) sorry got distracted
[19:43] <ep> np thanks
[19:43] <an1> James147: i dont get the use of media/development.
[19:44] <James147> an1: if you want to access the files on the drive it needs to be mounted somewhere... /media is a common place to put mount points for drives
[19:45] <James147> an1: if you place it there you can browes to that location in dolphin or any file manager and see the files on that drive
[19:45] <an1> ok. so how do i mount it there? what do i give now? /home?
[19:46] <James147> an1: if you want it mounted to /media/dev   set the mount point to /media/dev    you can set it to /home if you want (a common thing to do) but it will include all yopur user settings/files as well
[19:47] <James147> an1: if your intrested/want to know exactly whats going on look up how drives are mounted/acceses in linux on google
[19:48] <James147> an1: it works differently from how windows dose things :)
[19:48] <an1> there is not /media/dev in the options in installation
[19:49] <an1> no*
[19:49] <James147> an1: you should just beable to type it in and it will be created during install
[19:49] <James147> an1: assuming you chose the maunal partitions
[19:49] <James147> option
[19:52] <an1> how much do people give for swap? i usually give about 700 mb
[19:53] <Alkerzor> an1: I think the recommended guideline is twice your RAM
[19:53] <an1> that would be around 4 GB for swap!
[19:54] <Alkerzor> an1: That may come from the days of olde when you had far less RAM, I just know that was the guideline for a loong time.
[19:54] <James147> an1: yup :) normally only need that much if you want to hybernate
[19:54] <an1> cool
[19:54] <James147> Alkerzor: you need at least the size of your ram to hbernate (well the amount you are youing I would think) as thats where your ram gets written
[19:55] <Alkerzor> James147: Makes sense.
[19:55] <James147> an1: you can if you want create a swap file later (like what windows does
[19:56] <James147> an1: doing that makes it easier to expand/shrink as you need
[19:57] <an1> ok. so i have given 700 mb for swap. will create a swap file later
[19:57]  * James147 wonders if he actually has a swap drive
[19:58] <James147> heh, i dont :)
[19:58] <an1> :)
[19:59] <James147> an1: if you care at all this is how to create a swap file: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[20:01] <an1> James147 thank you!
[20:04] <an1> installing now! bye bye karmic koala! :P
[20:04] <an1> James147 thanks a lot!
[20:04] <James147> an1: np :)
[20:28] <albuquerque> oi
[20:28] <albuquerque> oi
[20:29] <well_laid_lawn> oi
[20:30] <albuquerque> fala
[20:34] <Alkerzor> where does one configure global text replacement? Say I want "asdf" to be replaced with "YYYYMMDD: " anywhere I type "asdf".
[21:28] <barbelf> how do I play mp3 files with kubuntu?
[21:42] <well_laid_lawn> barbelf: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:42] <well_laid_lawn> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:51] <Barridus> !info parted
[21:51] <Barridus> !parted
[21:51] <Barridus> does anyone know of a qt/kde equivalent of gparted?
[21:52] <Barridus> that's on the repos*
[21:52] <Barridus> !info qtparted
[21:53] <Barridus> !info kparted
[21:53] <Barridus> !info kdeparted
[21:56] <well_laid_lawn> !msgthebot
[21:59] <BluesKaj> !partition
[21:59] <BluesKaj> !QtParted
[22:00] <BluesKaj> !PartitionManager
[22:37] <btarik> hello world, i want to set firefox as the default web browser, tarik@alpha-aquilae:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser doesn't work
[22:52] <Edcel> Hi.
[23:22] <e66> is there any kde front end for GIT, something like Kdesvn?
[23:25] <e66> why this room is so quiet?
[23:26] <siegie> e66: because kubuntu is userfriendly?
[23:28] <e66> siegie: I am a Kde lover. I think you can not start debating with me.
[23:29] <PeterDrop> hi, printer problems here, i have hp d1660, phplip installed, trying to print a test page, but nothinh happens, any help?
[23:34] <Luukje> bbl
[23:38] <e66> is there any kde front end for GIT, something like Kdesvn?
[23:39] <far1> pas comprix
[23:43] <PeterDrop> fkck kubuntu
[23:48] <jaafar> Hi folks.  Suddenly I have no printers. lpq gives "Unable to connect to server", and localhost:631 is "unable to connect" via Firefox.  cupsd is not running... was there a problematic update, or something? There's nothing in dmesg to explain this.
[23:51] <jaafar> Well, looks like sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart worked.  Hopefully this isn't permanent
[23:59] <PeterDrop> jaafar: can u give me a hand, iam have 3 hour trying a print owrk :(