[00:00] <ocelot00> im pretty confused
[00:00] <Islam>  whats the package to play the review once I stop the mouse on a music file ?
[00:00] <Zungete> ocelot00: .desktop files are special!
[00:00] <Zungete> DasEi: then, how to do it?
[00:00] <DasEi> Zungete: a line as : alias xlocker="login Zungete && xscreensaver-command --lock"
[00:01] <ocelot00> tbh its pretty lame that its not included in the os to just create one by right click
[00:01] <ocelot00> like in every other os
[00:01] <Zungete> DasEi: hmmm, idk, but, are you here always?
[00:01] <sweb> i want download list of files from txt files via wget . what is command ?
[00:01] <DasEi> Zungete: so it'll prompt for Zungetes pw and then lock the screenon that account, always ?? no, here and then
[00:01] <Zungete> DasEi: i'm not in ubuntu now
[00:01] <DoverOs> ocelot00: ikr. from the original template i pasted, all you want to do is change the name, and make your exec /blahblah/blah.sh
[00:02] <ocelot00> oh okay i will try that
[00:02] <ssfdre38> im trying to chroot 11.10 and im trying to get source.list going and i copied it from my computer but its still saying it needs some sources
[00:02] <Zungete> DasEi:and if i want pure root xscreensaver 'behave like in another uid'?
[00:02] <Zungete> -.-
[00:02] <DoverOs> ocelot00: and if it doesn't want to run, delete the undefined variables
[00:02] <DasEi> Zungete: with that line wherever you are just type xlocker and be set
[00:03] <Zungete> and i can froget about xlock?
[00:03] <ocelot00> kay thanks
[00:03] <DasEi> Zungete: then I can tell you meanwhile but suggest you bork your system yourself
[00:03] <Islam> whats the package to play the review once I stop the mouse on a music file ?
[00:03] <badapple> hi guys
[00:04] <DasEi> Zungete: rather advance it to an additional user just for lock if you are so eager, can even circumvent pw that way
[00:04] <Zungete> DasEi: how if i am not running ubuntu now? and it freezes -.-
[00:04] <badapple> can you tell me how can i see the mac adress allowed on some network ? =)
[00:05] <Zungete> DasEi: i want xscreensaver to behave like if you are running it as another uid
[00:05] <DasEi> badapple: allowed ? or given ?
[00:05] <Zungete> it launches everything as the uid logged on
[00:05] <Zungete> and i want that xscreensaver deamon run as uid 0 too
[00:05] <manbra_linux> Is there a way to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04
[00:06] <Zungete> manbra_linux: no, you just go up, never down,
[00:06] <manbra_linux> Damn it.  Is there a way to get the 11.04 GUI?
[00:06] <zeta-> Zungete: got gnome-session running, Thanks for your help, re-booting to see any result ...
[00:06] <manbra_linux> I've tried gnome classic, and that doesn't give me any desktop.  gnome is the same thing w/ a different skin.  and unity 2d or w/e it is gives me no desktop
[00:07] <Zungete> manbra_linux: i don't know,
[00:07] <DasEi> Zungete: another way , section 7: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#root-lock
[00:07] <manbra_linux> Zungete, thanks for the help anyways
[00:07] <Zungete> zeta-: don't reboot, and you need to login using that,
[00:08] <s1> manbra_linux: getting a blank-screen!
[00:08] <Zungete> DasEi well, i am going to reboot, you tell me again ok?
[00:08] <Gskellig> is there ANY way to get oracle JRE 7 on ubuntu?
[00:09] <s1> !nomodeset > manbra_linux
[00:09] <Zungete> DasEi: faq doesn't help, it's the same
[00:10] <manbra_linux> s1, what do you mean
[00:10] <Zungete> dase: i think i'm going to reboot to ubuntu...
[00:10] <DasEi> Zungete: I haven't ried xhost, did you?
[00:10] <DasEi> tried*
[00:10] <manbra_linux> s1, ohhhh.
[00:10] <magpii> i am trying to create a startup usb and re install a previous version of ubuntu as 11.04 is screwing my system. unfortunatly it has now decided to deny me access to both usb and mass storage devices. please help
[00:10] <Zungete> dase i disabled xhost acl
[00:10] <magpii> i am logged as admin
[00:10] <Zungete> and still same thin g
[00:10] <manbra_linux> s1, it shows me a desktop image, but there are no bars and i cant click on anything
[00:10] <deithrian> Help please, i can't make NumLock to turn on after reboot in Xubuntu. I tried to add "/usr/bin/numlockx on", which works in terminal, to crontab but it doesn't work, and tried to add "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on" in "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" that didn't work as well.Where can i add "/usr/bin/numlockx on" so it will be executed after i login?
[00:10] <Zungete> magpii: admin = root
[00:10] <Zungete> ?
[00:11] <magpii> yes i am root
[00:11] <Zungete> DasEi i try to run ubuntu, just tell me
[00:11] <Zungete> we;ll
[00:12] <Linuxx> @magmii check out lsusb see if your usb device has been reconized
[00:12] <Zungete> DasEi: i disabled completly xhost, not xhost +localhost
[00:12] <magpii> i downloaded iso image, and tried accessing the usb pen to install to it but it keeps telling me i dont have access
[00:12] <Zungete> instead i removed everything and did xhost +
[00:12] <s1> manbra_linux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[00:13] <s1> !video > manbra_linux
[00:13] <TRACKBB> hi
[00:13] <jcgs> hi :) does anyone know what's happened in wine during the upgrade? why can't i choose audio drivers any more? Does this mean there's no way to get spotify to work?
[00:14] <magpii> when i log in under ubuntu 2d, it doesnt even show unetbootin under programs, yet it does under the other options
[00:14] <Zungete> jcgs: have you tired run pulseaudio from console?
[00:14] <Lobosque> if I used "sudo bash Install_3DSPUSB.sh"  to install a program. how do I unninstall it?
[00:15] <Lobosque> I upgraded my distro and this program do not work anymore, now I need to remove it.
[00:15] <Zungete> DasEi: ok, rebooting, i'ill disconnect, mmmmm are you tomorrow?  i am gonig to not do this now, i wll go to play games...
[00:15] <magpii> i cannot access any usb drives, it tells me i am not authorized, even though i am root and their are no other users setup on my system
[00:16] <Zungete> magpii: tired with nautilus?
[00:16] <DasEi> Zungete: 1628 people around now, feel free to come back, heh
[00:16] <Zungete> are thay mounted?
[00:16] <Zungete> lol
[00:16] <magpii> nautilus?
[00:16] <Zungete> magpii: the file explorer
[00:16] <Zungete> DasEi: but only 1 for this thing
[00:16] <magpii> will try now but i cant see it working
[00:17] <Zungete> you
[00:17] <manbra_linux> s1, thank you, reading through this now
[00:17] <Zungete> DasEi: only you for this xscreensaver thing
[00:17] <magpii> nautilus isnt showing listed under programes
[00:17] <Zungete> .....
[00:18] <Zungete> magpii: what are you running?
[00:18] <brandonc503> if i would have uploade files to comp via ftp, which owner and group would have been give? www-data?
[00:18] <magpii> ubuntu 2d 11.10
[00:18] <Lobosque> if I used "sudo bash Install_3DSPUSB.sh"  to install a program. how do I unninstall it?
[00:18] <jcgs> Zungete: No...What does that do? pulseaudio seems to be already running
[00:19] <Zungete> jcgs: have you check if is listed in processes?
[00:19] <jcgs> Zungete: yes, it is
[00:19] <Zungete> magpii: it haves another name
[00:19] <Zungete> it's file manager
[00:19] <magpii> nautilus is listed as sleeping under process monitor
[00:20] <Zungete> magpii: is runnnig, and use it! it's the file explorer! wtf
[00:20] <jcgs> Zungete: I have audio in everything else...just not spotify
[00:20] <Zungete> :O
[00:20] <Zungete> checked it's config?
[00:20] <afroman> hi. I upgraded to 11.10 but now I can't get internet through my wireless, although there is connection to the router
[00:20] <Zungete> relaunched?
[00:21] <Zungete> afroman: does the router have internet?
[00:21] <magpii> even under thunar file manager, it lists the usb pen, but tells me i am not authorized when i try opening it
[00:21] <jcgs> Zungete: winecfg has been changed so all the audio settings have gone :(
[00:21] <mattwj2002> hi guys what is wubi?
[00:21] <Zungete> omgh
[00:21] <deithrian> How can i add a terminal command to be executed after login?
[00:21] <Zungete> fix that then jcgs
[00:22] <afroman> Zungete: yes
[00:22] <Zungete> mattwj2002: it's a simple thing for windows, it allows ubuntu under windows
[00:22] <magpii> afroman> i had to delete all other saved networks before i could get access through my wireless after upgrade
[00:22] <jcgs> Zungete: we'll i'm sort of trying to...I think the developers have messed around with it something terrible
[00:22] <Paul4> Hello, I upgraded my old Dell 1.5 Ghz machine to 11.10. Not a good experience. No video, no mouse and no printer. I can log in to an old kernel and get it working. Anyone else have this type of experience. Wish I had left it alone.
[00:22] <mattwj2002> Zungete: does it create a virtual ubuntu?
[00:22] <afroman> Zungete: the router has internet, is connected to the laptop, it even gives an ip adress
[00:22] <magpii> the developers shouldnt have even let 11.10 past beta imo
[00:23] <mattwj2002> install or a physical install
[00:23] <Zungete> but is not native, so it's better to do a physical inst
[00:23] <Zungete> and it downgrades perfomance in win
[00:23] <Zungete> and it disables hibernation
[00:23] <magpii> as root, how do i regain authorization on usb drives?
[00:23] <afroman> magpii: yes I did erase all previous saved networks
[00:23] <Zungete> magpii: mount?
[00:24] <mattwj2002> Zungete here is ultimately what I want
[00:24] <mattwj2002> ubuntu running in Windows off of a thumb drive
[00:24] <Zungete> mattwj2002: whatever is like a virtual system
[00:24] <magpii> the drive is mounted, it is listed in the places list, but it wont let me access it
[00:24] <wedgie> i have installed my own jabber server (ejabberd). How can i make Empathy connect to it?
[00:24] <mattwj2002> can wubi do that?
[00:24] <Zungete> magpii: wired, tired to do chmod to it?
[00:24] <magpii> ?
[00:25] <Zungete> mattwj2002: yes, but be aware of slowness
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> mattwj2002: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableubuntu/
[00:25] <aeon-ltd> mattwj2002: old but relevant article http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows
[00:26] <aslan_> hello everyone
[00:26] <wedgie> i'm just not seeing the option in Empathy where it lets you specify what server to connect to
[00:28] <Zungete> is there's unity for windows?
[00:29] <MarkGreenwood> Hi ! I just reinstalled Ubuntu 11.10 and I am now encountering some problems. I have an ATI graphics card and I noticed some quite unbearable lag when enabling  the proprietery drivers. After googling around, I found that I had to install CompizCSM and disable some vblank stuff. I did. Now I logged out and I cn't log back in. All I see is black. I manuallyrestarted, but aain, only black. Anyone has had this problem ? Or know ho
[00:29] <aeon-ltd> Zungete: no
[00:29] <aslan__> hey, someone know where hiddin xchat after hide ?
[00:29] <magpii> i want to downgrade back to 10.04, but i cannot get access to my usb drives, can someone help
[00:29] <celso_celso> people, is there any ubuntu 11.10 image updated with all the updates? like a daily build but oficial?
[00:29] <aslan__> i have nwe ubuntu with this new envirment
[00:30] <Zungete> no, there's live cd, impossible, unless you make it presistent and update it and then put it in cd
[00:30] <jcgs> celso_celso: if you do an online upgrade, you get the latest versions of all the packages
[00:30] <magpii> my usb drive is mounted and listed in places, but it says unauthorized whenever i try access it
[00:30] <Zungete> celso_celso: read
[00:30] <Lobosque> I'm in recorvery mode trying to delete some files and it says that I'm on read-only filesystem. WTF?
[00:30] <jcgs> aslan__: not in the system tray?
[00:30] <Zungete> magpii: check it permissions
[00:31] <afroman> magpii: Zungete: any idea how to fix the wireless problems?
[00:31] <celso_celso> cause the 11.10 has bugs that make my system impossible to connect to internet (no support huawei e220)
[00:31] <magpii> it wont let me change permissions, that option is greyed out
[00:31] <Zungete> Lobosque: wtf what mount command says?
[00:31] <jcgs> aslan__: or dock-like unity thingy?
[00:31] <derek> I was updating to ubuntu 11.10 from 10.04 using the update manager, had a power failure in the middle of installation, and now that i got the desktop to load, and some programs to work, i have to use gnome classic to load it, and most programs won't run now, says there is no executable program to open them, any thoughts on what might be happening?
[00:31] <MarkGreenwood> Anyone  has any ideas ?
[00:31] <Zungete> magpii: as root? Wireder!
[00:31] <magpii> afroman> not sure, i had to reboot and use a different kernal at login
[00:32] <magpii> i am root, the only user on this computer
[00:32] <afroman> magpii: I did that 2
[00:32] <jcgs> derek: can you do an update in the terminal?
[00:32] <jcgs> derek: like a package update...
[00:32] <afroman> magpii: now I'm using 2.6.32, but still no results
[00:33] <derek> jcgs: i tried that and thats how i got to the piont im at now, dont know if i did it right tho.
[00:33] <Aoute> hey, someone know where is xchat after hidding? I have banshee and terminal on belt after hidding, but xchat disappear :(
[00:33] <magpii> afroman> the only other option, which i am trying to do, is downgrade back to 10.04, this 11.10 is riddled with stupid bugs that shouldnt have even got past beta
[00:33] <ocelot00> wow now i cant even launch my sh file anymore -.-
[00:33] <ocelot00> it says access denied
[00:33] <Lobosque> Zungete, I must delete some files that are preventing me to start normally... I just want do delete them in recorvery mode. I'm no linux guru... Just wish to delete. that's all.
[00:33] <ocelot00> this is getting ridiculous
[00:33] <magpii> afroman> you tried the other gui's that are listed at login?
[00:34] <magpii> like ubuntu 2d
[00:34] <ocelot00> okay over 3 hours for making a stupid file run by double clicking is definitely too much
[00:34] <ocelot00> im back to mac guys have a good life
[00:34] <magpii> lol
[00:34] <celso_celso> jcgs - online upgrade? like, when i am on the installation menu, i select install updates ou install above 11.04?
[00:34] <afroman> magpii: all 4, recovery, unity, unity 2d and user defined
[00:34] <afroman> magpii: no joy
[00:34] <Aoute> Unity little sux in my opinion, i am confused :P
[00:35] <afroman> Aoute: amen to that
[00:35] <Aoute> i have problem, i dont like gnome and kde :P
[00:35] <magpii> afroman> sorry mate, i dont know what else to suggest other than re instal previous version.
[00:35] <Aoute> gnome looks sux and kde is unstable :P
[00:35] <Aoute> now i have mix of them :P
[00:35] <Cortex> Can anybody help? I'm having trouble with my flash drive on Ubuntu
[00:36] <Cortex> *usb drive on Ubuntu
[00:36] <Aoute> Unity looks like designed for tablets
[00:36] <magpii> 11.10 is acting like a downsyndrome 5 year old built it
[00:36] <robin0800> !notunity | Aoute
[00:36] <Cortex> Can anyone help? I'm having problems with my usb drive using Ubuntu Unity
[00:36] <magpii> how can i regain authorization to access usb drives as root?
[00:37] <magpii> dont tell me, it tells you your not authorized right?
[00:37] <Aoute> yea, but i like Unity's look, but i think i have to move to normal gnome without unity
[00:38] <Cortex> magpii: me?
[00:38] <magpii> yeah
[00:38] <aeon-ltd> Aoute: dude, hell don't deal with it. most DEs are like this because that's what DEs are designed for 'integration' imo WMs are much nicer and you get to choose every part of it; if you have time and want change use 'Openbox' it's light, nice and very barebones all you need is a openbox, a panel and your apps.
[00:38] <s1> !gnome2 | Aoute
[00:38] <s1> Cortex: what is the issue with the USB!
[00:38] <Cortex> magpii: Nah. It keeps saving files I delete from my usb and I can't see them
[00:39] <magpii> i cannot access my usb drives as root. keeps telling me i aint authorized
[00:39] <Cortex> s1: Unity keeps saving files I delete from the usb on a trash folder I can't see on Unity, but on Windows I can
[00:40] <Aoute> what the difference between gnome 3 and 2 ? I install ubuntu 2 days ago, before i used this when kde 3 was on the dancefloor :P
[00:40] <Aoute> so it was long time ago :P
[00:40] <magpii> you tried a perm inant delete rather than move to trash?
[00:40] <Cortex> s1: So if I want to delete 3gb from the usb, it sends it to a trash folder within the usb, which I can't acess on Unity
[00:40] <Cortex> magpii: Just basic delete button, the trash folder never popped up on my usb before Unity
[00:41] <Cortex> Note: the trash folder is being saved on the usb, so Unity is not actually deleting them just saving them on an unseen folder on my usb
[00:41] <magpii> can someone tell me how i regain authorization to access my usb drives as root?
[00:41] <magpii> please
[00:41] <Aoute> now i am instaling Gnome desktop environment from ubuntu software center
[00:42] <Aoute> correct? :P
[00:42] <Aoute> could you tell me what i should choose : gdm or lightgdm?
[00:42] <Aoute> i have new PC
[00:42] <Aoute> please :P
[00:43] <derek> i put my cd in to try to load another version, and i can't autorun it, and i can't load it whe i start up, using a netbook with a usb cd drive, can i make it load the cd on boot up? and how?
[00:43] <s1> Cortex: thats messed up!
[00:44] <Cortex> Sorry for repeating, but: On Unity, anything I delete from my usb isn't being deleted but sent to a hidden "trash folder' on the usb, so it's not actually deleting anything. I can't acess this trash folder from Unity, but I can from Windows. I'd just like to stop Unity from doing this
[00:44] <s1> !USB > magpii
[00:44] <s1> !usb
[00:44] <s1> err,
[00:44] <Aoute> Cortex: you try to choose opion " remove savely " or " remove volumen " ?
[00:45] <Aoute> then ubuntu deleting files before you disconnect usb-stick
[00:45] <Aoute> option*
[00:45] <Cortex> Aoute: I just delete them directly from the usb, is that what you're asking?
[00:45] <s1> magpii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Troubleshooting
[00:46] <Cortex> Aoute: ah, i think I got it
[00:46] <Aoute> Cortex: you want to delete files from usb pendrive right? Cus i dont know i am understand you correct :P
[00:46] <datakid> anyone got samba smarts? I've tried everything - for some reason a machine will not connect. Error is access is denied. but net rpc list shows I have the right to connect a machine
[00:46] <Aoute> m'kay
[00:47] <henkye> hello,using wake on alarm in bios. is there any utility to set it from ubuntu directly without reboot ? sry for little OT
[00:47] <afroman> does this unity has an icon workplace (like the vlc icon when it's running)?
[00:47] <Cortex> Aoute: Yes, but you already answered my question. I just chose "eject" and it gave me an option to remove everything from the hidden trash folder
[00:48] <Lobosque> I give up
[00:48] <Lobosque> bye linux.
[00:48] <e20100633> henkye: you mean rtc?
[00:48] <aeon-ltd> datakid: firewall?
[00:48] <Cortex> Aoute: Thank you! Don't know why I didn't think of this before.
[00:48] <Aoute> Cortex: yes, now it shuld be deteling files, i know i have similar problem few years ago :P
[00:48] <Aoute> Cortex: no problem :P
[00:48] <datakid> aeon-ltd, nope, tx though. I'm inside the fw
[00:49] <pooltable> help looking for a program to auto resize a photo to an 8x10 but also look good any ideas
[00:49] <henkye> e20100633: power on pc in selected time
[00:49] <Cortex> Aoute: Ha ha. Thanks again. That's all I needed help with so I'm leaving. :)
[00:49] <darkhalo117> Anybody know if xbmc can play blu ray as of yet?
[00:49] <e20100633> henkye: oh, ok, I misunderstood then, sorry
[00:49] <henkye> e20100633: np .-)
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> datakid: do you have a user added to samba?
[00:50] <datakid> aeon-ltd, yep, I've previously (6months ago) added half a dozen machines
[00:50] <henkye> my personal gues it's not, since it would be highly vendor dependant ...
[00:50] <henkye> but who knows ?
[00:51] <Aoute> hey, when i have installed " The GNOME Desktop Environment " what i should do to launch it?
[00:51] <Aoute> restart?
[00:51] <root_> logout
[00:51] <aeon-ltd> Aoute: log out change session log back in
[00:52] <Aoute> okay, brb
[00:52] <e20100633> henkye: well, if your computer is suspended to RAM, you can use /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm to set the time; but if it's totally switch off I don't know
[00:53] <henkye> e20100633: well    it sounds interesting     worth try it out   thx for pointing me
[00:54] <aeon-ltd> datakid: you can view the samba share and when you try to connect it fails?
[00:54] <e20100633> note that your computer have to support rtc, but if you already have powerup on time in your bios, it might be good
[00:54] <henkye> e20100633: no big difference for me if suspend or shutdown
[00:54] <Kevman> Does anyone know how to get FreeNX working? When I try to connect to a Ubuntu server from Windows, I get a black window that disappears after about 3 seconds
[00:55] <e20100633> henkye: you just have to echo 0 > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm
[00:55] <Gskellig> trying to install sun JRE 7, I get this error: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for java.
[00:55] <Gskellig>  when running "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[00:56] <e20100633> henkye: then echo $(date '+%s' -d '$TIME') > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm where $TIME is written is a good way (see man date for that)
[00:56] <e20100633> just grep alrm_date /proc/driver/rtc |cut -d ' ' -f2 and grep alrm_time /proc/driver/rtc |cut -d ' ' -f2 to see the results
[00:56] <lnbwhit> can someone pls help
[00:56] <e20100633> you might make you some sh script to handle this automaticaly
[00:57] <GI_Jack> sweet jeebus, now lightdm will not load automaticly anymore
[00:57] <datakid> aeon-ltd, I can see the share, I can connect to the share
[00:57] <datakid> I can't join the Domain though ?
[00:57] <GI_Jack> how do I reset upstart to the default ubuntu config?
[00:57] <e20100633> s/written is/written in/
[00:57] <Aoute> It looks stable on 2d mode, normal Gnome looks sick now :(
[00:57] <henkye> e20100633: wow, didnt expected such complex answer, ill copy & paste it and try later   thank u very much sir .-)
[00:58] <lnbwhit> just updated to ubuntu 11.10 and my wifi will not work I know I can enable it some how through terminal can any help with that pls
[00:58] <henkye> e20100633: good night
[00:58] <Gskellig>  when running "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[00:59] <e20100633> your welcome henkye; you too
[00:59] <Gskellig>  I get this error: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for java.
[00:59] <Gskellig> trying to install Sun JRE 7
[00:59] <aeon-ltd> datakid: can i see your smb.conf?
[00:59] <Aoute> someone know how i can return Unity login screen? :P
[01:00] <playboy> press ctrl+alt+F1\F2\F3..
[01:02] <datakid> aeon-ltd, sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/713761/
[01:02] <MrKeuner> hello, replaced my Lucid's version of xorg installation with xorg-edgers' repository packages. That caused freezing problems and used ppa-purge application from the xorg-edgers' repository to purge theirs and install old packages. Seems like there is no freeze so far, however I recently started experiencing xorg crashes upon wakeups... I was thinking some setting files might have been messed up. Is there a way to reinstall all xorg related packa
[01:02] <MrKeuner> ges "with purging"?
[01:03] <lucianoloder> hi to all
[01:03] <lucianoloder> i have just updated to ubuntu 11.10, and have lost all my shortcuts and information that i had in the upper menu
[01:03] <share> :(
[01:03] <lucianoloder> is there a way to put shortcuts in the upper menu?:
[01:04] <brandonc503> how can i see my groups and users?
[01:04] <brandonc503> used to be able to drag and drop em Luc, but seems i cant do that now
[01:04] <lucianoloder> the other application i use and will miss a lot is that bar indicating the percentage of CPU, RAM and network activity
[01:04] <brandonc503> and that top bar seems to be taken over by what ever app i have maximised
[01:04] <share> brandonc503: system > admin > users and groups
[01:05] <Aoute> how i can set to Ubuntu 2d as default?
[01:06] <brandonc503> share: i dont see admin in system settings
[01:06] <share> Aoute: at login I guess?
[01:06] <share> brandonc503: I am using 10.10
[01:06] <brandonc503> oh, im using newest
[01:06] <Aoute> yes, now i have gnome, gnome classic, ubuntu, ubuntu 2d
[01:06] <Aoute> and i want set to ubuntu 2d
[01:07] <GI_Jack> upstart seems to not want to load lightdm, anyone have any ideas
[01:07] <GI_Jack> I had to manually login with tty1 and sudo lightdm
[01:07] <playboy> have smoeone know how to have a 3D desktop
[01:07] <GI_Jack> it just falls from boot splash back to text, and gets to loading alsa timitidy++
[01:08] <GI_Jack> anyone else get this, and I'm kinda lost navigating all the run level init scripts
[01:08] <Aoute> share: Do you know how i can set this?
[01:08] <M25> hi, I'm trying to run several processes as a given user on system boot, specifically an Electric Sheep renderer, minecraft server, and Shairport server.  When I try to use su in the script, I get an incomplete startup, and glitches galore from unstarted processes
[01:08] <M25> does anyone know how to change users in an /etc/init.d/ script?
[01:08] <share> Aoute: no, sry
[01:09] <GI_Jack> m25 what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <aeon-ltd> datakid: have you tried changing security from 'user' to 'domain'?
[01:09] <datakid> aeon-ltd, not yet, will try now
[01:09] <playboy> anyone know how to install 3D desktop?
[01:09] <M25> run several processes as a non-root user, but start them on system boot rather than user login
[01:10] <M25> GI_Jack: ^
[01:10] <aviandroid> REGISTER
[01:10] <root_> aoute  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856297
[01:11] <christopher> I got a question for All Ubuntu Users
[01:11] <GI_Jack> m25 - you can always set the GUID bit
[01:11] <GI_Jack> like chown user:user filename
[01:11] <GI_Jack> then chmod u+s filename
[01:11] <GI_Jack> before you run it then change it back
[01:11] <Aoute> root: thank you!
[01:11] <GI_Jack> or SUID I am sorry
[01:11] <GI_Jack> GUID is group
[01:12] <M25> GI_Jack: per executable that I run? or for the init.d script itself?
[01:12] <christopher> Hello My Fellow Ubuntu Users I got a Question
[01:12] <GI_Jack> m25 - for every executable you run
[01:12] <root_> welcome
[01:12] <datakid> aeon-ltd, no joy
[01:12] <datakid> :|
[01:12] <GI_Jack> ok
[01:12] <conntrack> o_O
[01:12] <christopher> Do you think Ubuntu will get so main stream it will become more of a problem to Windows And Apple
[01:13] <M25> GI_Jack: huh.  that'll work for the electric sheep one, but I've got a Perl script and a Bash script running the other two, how far down the chain will I need to set the SUID?
[01:13] <GI_Jack> this sysv init thing is KILLING me. I just wish ubuntu had arch style BSD init
[01:13] <GI_Jack> m25 hrmm, I think you should be able to use sudo as well
[01:13] <Shaba1> Hello all
[01:13] <christopher> I wish there was more GUI for ubuntu less terminal
[01:13] <GI_Jack> I think the top level script should be it, and it should cascade down whatever it calls
[01:13] <M25> GI_Jack: as in sudo -u user?
[01:13] <Shaba1> I just connected an external usb wifi adapter
[01:14] <GI_Jack> m25 I believe so
[01:14] <GI_Jack> man sudo
[01:14] <GI_Jack> probably better than futzing with permissions
[01:14] <Shaba1> How do I determine is ubuntu is using my internal laptop adapter or the external one?
[01:14] <M25> GI_Jack: huh, I'll try it.  Is there any better way to test it than rebooting a dozen times over?
[01:14]  * edwardthefma hates he linksys
[01:14] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to install joerg schilly cdrtools 3.01 on my ubuntu 11.10 but for some reason i can't get it to install
[01:14] <GI_Jack> m25 - run the script, open up a new terminal and ps aux |grep less
[01:15] <GI_Jack> or ps aux > test_results
[01:15] <GI_Jack> err ps aux |less
[01:15] <M25> GI_Jack: huh, see, the weird part is that it works when I run it as plain root
[01:15] <M25> GI_Jack: but not on boot
[01:15] <GI_Jack> ????
[01:15] <GI_Jack> strange
[01:16] <M25> at least the Minecraft server does
[01:16]  * edwardthefma hats his linksys router
[01:16] <GI_Jack> it could rely on boot scripts that haven't run yet
[01:16] <oliver__> hellow..
[01:16] <M25> when these init scripts are run, are all fstab partitions already mounted
[01:16] <oliver__> i need help
[01:16] <GI_Jack> best bet is to put everything in /etc/rc.local
[01:16] <share> oliver__: hellow
[01:16] <GI_Jack> so it runs last
[01:16] <share> !ask | oliver__
[01:16] <GI_Jack> and doesn't futz with upstart or the sysv init proccess which is a PITA
[01:16] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu Server unable to start after accidental power drop.  Getting error:fd1 cannot get c/h/s values.  Root system was an md raid 1 setup with lvm.  Suggestions please...
[01:16] <edwardthefma> who has ever had thare router change a computers router ip out of the blew befor
[01:17] <Shaba1> anyone?
[01:17] <oliver__> anybody knows about php mysql?
[01:17] <crash1hd> can anyone show me how I can modify this script so that I can get a total count of files? find . -type f | egrep -i "\.(png|jpg|tif|psd)$" | while read f; do echo $f; done
[01:17] <xangua> !anyone | Shaba1 oliver__
[01:17] <chris7> hi
[01:17] <GI_Jack> sweet jesus, I am trying to reboot again, brb
[01:17] <M25> GI_Jack: thanks for the help, I may be back when it all blows up in my face :P
[01:18] <chris7> hello im looking for a ubuntu person to bounch ideas and free thinking off of
[01:18] <Shaba1> well actually that was the question
[01:18] <ghostnik11> has anyone ever installed cdrtools 3.01 for ubuntu
[01:18] <Shaba1> how do I tell which adapter this laptop is using
[01:18] <aeon-ltd> datakid: sorry man imma give up, all i can say is ask again here and in #samba; and or bounce ideas off the guys in #archlinux (don't say you're using ubuntu :) )
[01:19] <datakid> aeon-ltd, thanks appreciate it
[01:21] <ssfdre38> is there more then one source.list?
[01:24] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38:yes, there is
[01:24] <Shaba1> Hello can anyone try to answer my previous question
[01:25] <Shaba1> how do I tell which adapter this laptop is using
[01:25] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, do you know where cause im trying to set up a oneiric chroot for program testing
[01:25] <share> !ask | Shaba1
[01:25] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: there is a folder, /etc/apt/sources_list.d, containing other "sources.list"  archives, that you can fill with one document per sources list, if you want
[01:25] <Fudge> hi anyone know with apt-add-repository how to add a ppa and make it disabled, i.e #commented
[01:26] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, i have source.list.d not sources_list.d
[01:26] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: ok, its the same thing, ...
[01:26] <ssfdre38> for me its a blank directory
[01:26] <christopher> Hey any young Ubuntu users like me on here?
[01:26] <sweb> i download multiple files via wget -i /tmp/download.txt and i want to save each file as a new integer how can i do this ?
[01:26] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: but what are you trying to do, install ubuntu oneric in other partiton for testing?
[01:26] <MrKeuner> hello, replaced my Lucid's version of xorg installation with xorg-edgers' repository packages. That caused freezing problems and used ppa-purge application from the xorg-edgers' repository to purge theirs and install old packages. Seems like there is no freeze so far, however I recently started experiencing xorg crashes upon wakeups... I was thinking some setting files might have been messed up. Is there a way to reinstall all xorg related packa
[01:26] <MrKeuner> ges "with purging"?
[01:26] <sweb> wget -i /tmp/download.txt -O=%d not work
[01:27] <MrKeuner> back
[01:27] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, just chroot the distro so i can get it for program testing and dev
[01:27] <oliver__> any guys here know how to change appearance in ubuntu 10.04?
[01:28] <christopher> right click, go to change background image, theme and tada
[01:28] <saruji_> does anyone know where I can find an easy imgur uploading deb?
[01:28] <share> oliver__: theme?
[01:29] <xangua> oliver__: www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:29] <christopher> what exactly are you looking for Oliver
[01:29] <georgetso> hello, emergency help needed -> I can't login to my ubuntu server
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> georgetso: do you get a login prompt?
[01:29] <georgetso> hello, emergency help needed -> I can't login to my ubuntu server, it asks me to login, but when I input my username, it said "the system is going down for maintenance in 5 minutes"
[01:30] <georgetso> and then ask me to login again
[01:30] <georgetso> infinite loop
[01:30] <georgetso> I'm using ubuntu server, not desktop
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> georgetso: do you have free space on the partitons?
[01:30] <oliver__> thanks xagua
[01:30] <georgetso> yes
[01:31] <isteed> hello all, would this be a place where i can get some support for switching drivers in 11.10?
[01:31] <MrPockets> OHHI
[01:31] <MrPockets> HEY
[01:31] <georgetso> the thing is, last night I gave a command "sudo shutdown -h +30", and then I turn the system down by force
[01:31] <georgetso> I guess that's the clue, but I have no idea how to fix it
[01:31] <georgetso> I can't login at all now
[01:31] <MrPockets> y
[01:32] <lee_> Question: I am attempting to install ubuntu on a mac pro via an 11.10 +mac installation disk. I want to wipe everything, but when i boot up into the cd-rom, it presents a grub interface. Any direction on what might be wrong?
[01:32] <MrPockets> fix ur bewt loadr
[01:32] <georgetso> lee_: hold option key when boot
[01:33] <isteed> lee_, u need to boot from cd
[01:33] <lucianoloder> georgetso: well, "shutdown -c"  should cancel a shutdown, but you say that cant connect, ..
[01:33] <lee_> isteed: I thought i did, how else am i at the grub loader?
[01:33] <georgetso> lucianoloder: no i can't
[01:33] <lee_> isteed: Eg: Windows was previously installed on this machine. There was no linux, there was no grub
[01:33] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, just so you know i did cp the entire /etc/apt folder over to my chroot
[01:34] <lee_> If i'm in Grub at all, doesn't that mean the CD was read and booted?
[01:34] <isteed> have you tried just hitting enter?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> lee_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:34] <isteed> lee_, you could test the iso
[01:35] <lee_> Hmm, k
[01:35] <lucianoloder> georgetso: what happens when you try to boot? it boots ok? did you try to use CTRL-ALT-F1 to go to prompt menu? so to you to know, you can use CTRL-ALT-F7 to return, ..
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> lee_: I'm guessing you didn't, a bad ISO will generate issues
[01:35] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: I dont know if it will help you, but you can install any debian-like system using debootstrap, ..
[01:36] <lee_> ActionParsnip: Nope, working on it now :)
[01:36] <lee_> ActionParsnip: It's windows.. i'm looking for something to md5 check it now :)
[01:36] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: At least i used it one time or other to bring a system up
[01:36] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: of course, to do a chroot you will need to mount /dev, /sys and /proc too, ..
[01:37] <Shaba1> Hello am I still here in this channel?
[01:37] <ssfdre38> they are all mounted
[01:37] <Shaba1> damn
[01:37] <Shaba1> no wonder no one was answering
[01:37] <ssfdre38> fail?
[01:37] <isteed> aparently i have the most difficult brodcom chip out there, can anybody help me get off the closed driver and move to the open b43 driver?
[01:37] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: they are all mounted in the chrooted system?
[01:37] <ssfdre38> yea
[01:37] <Shaba1> I just had a bunch of text scroll by all at one time\
[01:37] <lucianoloder> if the partition is in /mnt, proc should be in /mnt/proc, ..
[01:38] <isteed> Shaba1, you may have an intermitting internet connection.
[01:38] <georgetso> lucianoloder: it boots ok, then ask me to log in. When I input my username, it said "the system is going down for maintenance in 5 minutes" followed by "login incorrect"
[01:38] <georgetso> lucianoloder: then ask me to login again
[01:39] <lucianoloder> georgetso: it happens in the graphical login or in the console too?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | lee_
[01:39] <georgetso> lucianoloder: console, I'm using server, not desktop
[01:39] <lee_> ActionParsnip: Yup, checking now :)
[01:40] <Shaba1> how do I tell which adapter this laptop is using
[01:40] <Shaba1> How do I determine is ubuntu is using my internal laptop adapter or the external one?
[01:40] <lucianoloder> georgetso: well, i really dont know, maybe booting in recovery mode would help you, but i really dont know, ..
[01:40] <georgetso> lucianoloder: oh, no password hint prompted
[01:40] <georgetso> I'll try
[01:42] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: well, i think that it should work, maybe you need to "sudo apt-get update" after changing the source_list packets, ...
[01:42] <georgetso> lucianoloder: oh, when I input root instead of my own username
[01:42] <georgetso> lucianoloder: it asks for password now
[01:42] <crash1hd> can anyone show me how I can modify this script so that I can get a total count of files? find . -type f | egrep -i "\.(png|jpg|tif|psd)$" | while read f; do echo $f; done
[01:42] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, i just got it all working now
[01:42] <georgetso> lucianoloder: but I can't know the password of root
[01:42] <s1> Shaba1: sudo lshw -c Network
[01:42] <jrib> crash1hd: send the output to wc -l
[01:43] <jrib> crash1hd: though what you've written is fairly redundant...
[01:43] <jdjbmedina> how do i get rid of unity in 11.10 and have gnome3 as my desktop
[01:43] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38: well, happy hacking for you, ...
[01:43] <lucianoloder> ssfdre38:hehehhe
[01:44] <crash1hd> jrib, why do you say that?
[01:44] <psingh> isteed, I presume you've already tried installing firmware-b43-installer package ?
[01:44] <lucianoloder> georgetso: Sometimes it is the same password of your normal user, ...
[01:44] <s1> !notunity | jdjbmedina
[01:44] <jrib> crash1hd: well you're using egrep instead of a switch like -name to find and you're reading the input and just echoing it back which is pointless
[01:44] <ssfdre38> lucianoloder, more like happy modding
[01:45] <diavolo_> I just installed ubuntu 11.10.  I want to install the divinorum-revisited gtk theme, but I have no idea how anymore.  It was easy in previous ubuntu versions.  The methods I've found in google so far are too vague, or just don't work.  How can I install a gtk theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:45] <share> !oneiric
[01:45] <share> thank you ubottu
[01:45] <crash1hd> jrib, well echoing it back to make sure its getting what I want (once I know what I have then I am going to change the echo to a mv command)
[01:45] <lucianoloder> georgetso: if you really want to do something nasty, you "could" change the root password by hand dealing with /etc/password and /etc/shadow ...
[01:45] <jrib> crash1hd: what do you actually want to do?
[01:45] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I booted into recovery mode and changed root password now
[01:45] <Shaba1> thanks s1
[01:46] <crash1hd> jrib, I am searching a drive looking for all image and videos and moving them to a single folder
[01:46] <georgetso> lucianoloder: but when I go with "shutdown -c", it said no shutdown work arranged
[01:46] <Shaba1> Now how do I install the drivers for the external adapter
[01:46] <Shaba1> ??
[01:46] <jrib> crash1hd: just use find with -exec
[01:46] <eeeBeefster> I'm having problems with graphics hardware acceleration on 10.04 today
[01:46] <lucianoloder> georgetso: stragne, ...
[01:46] <lee_> ActionParsnip: Well the image is good, looking for something to test the cd itself at the moment
[01:46] <eeeBeefster> It worked yesterday
[01:46] <lucianoloder> georgetsostrange, ..
[01:46] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I guess it's because my stupidness last night
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> lee_: its available when you first boot. Its called 'check CD for defects'
[01:47] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I input "sudo shutdown -h -P 30"
[01:47] <crash1hd> jrib, ok how would that work?
[01:47] <lee_> ActionParsnip: You're forgetting i can't get past Grub :)
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> diavolo_: according to http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Divinorum-Revisited?content=89200   its a GTK2 theme, unless its rehashed for GTK3
[01:47] <ShiningGlass> hello!
[01:47] <jrib> crash1hd: are you familiar with -exec?
[01:47] <lucianoloder> georgetso: ah, sometimes that kind of thing happens, i did it once, but i formatted the PC at the time, ..
[01:47] <ShiningGlass> is anybody else having issues with Spotify by any chance?
[01:47] <crash1hd> jrib, no
[01:48] <johnjohn101> how do i remove  a user so that it doesn't show up on the login screen?
[01:48] <georgetso> lucianoloder: no, this is the server, can't just format
[01:48] <jrib> crash1hd: start at the man page for find, there are some examples.  Feel free to ask if you are stuck or unsure
[01:48] <crash1hd> jrib, ok
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> johnjohn101: is it the guest account per chance?
[01:48] <lucianoloder> georgetso: i think that shutdown -c should have worked, i dont know why it doesnt, ..
[01:48] <lucianoloder> georgetso: maybe because the users are different, ...
[01:49] <diavolo_> ActionParsnip, is it impossible to install a gtk2 theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:49] <drahst> sigh... for some reason, I can start libvirtd with the -d and the -l flag manually and it works fine, but I can't start it with libvirt-bin with the -l flag... I don't know why
[01:49] <ShiningGlass> anybody who runs Spotify: are you able to login? update? I get an error when trying to log in, and I sudo apt-get update gives me an error, too
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> diavolo_: its a different GTK so probably not (as far as I know, I'd ask in #gnome as well)
[01:49] <Explodingpiglets> Is there a terminal command that wipes everything on my hard drive?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: sure, you can use dd
[01:49] <Explodingpiglets> just, dd?
[01:50] <Explodingpiglets> I just type dd?
[01:50] <ssfdre38> is there a way i can get the 10.04 apt source.list?
[01:50] <Explodingpiglets> and that does it?
[01:50] <diavolo_> ActionParsnip, alright, thanks
[01:50] <jrib> ssfdre38: why?
[01:50] <isteed> rm -rf / ???
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: no, it takes options and junk, read guides and the man pages
[01:50] <jrib> isteed: please don't type that out of context
[01:50] <ssfdre38> for my 10.04 chroot
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> isteed: the drive will more than likely NOT be the one for /
[01:50] <isteed> jrib, o wow, i made the bots cry a litle.
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> isteed: I'm not a bot
[01:51] <Explodingpiglets> isteed, is that command one that will wipe the whole drive?
[01:51] <share> just ban him
[01:51] <ssfdre38> i want to use 11.10 and 10.04LTS for my chroot
[01:51] <isteed> ActionParsnip, i know this
 also I wouldn't recommend distro upgrading without backups simply because one of the four times I distro upgraded, something fucked up and I had to reinstall
[01:51] <ShiningGlass> shit, wrong window
[01:51] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: no, that will wipe the OS you are currently running, it won't work and it may remove data you want
[01:51] <share> !language | ShiningGlass
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: if you want to wipe your currently running ubuntu partitions then you will need to boot to liveCD
[01:52] <Explodingpiglets> ActionParsnip, let's say I have some programs on my computer that aren't necessarily illegal, but may place me under suspicion if my laptop were confiscated
[01:52] <mattwj2002> hi might be outside of your support limits but I am using portable ubuntu remix in Windows 7 and it keeps inputting an = that I am not inputting
[01:52] <mattwj2002> any ideas?
[01:52] <Explodingpiglets> I would want a fast an easy way to wipe the drive, but  not damage it
[01:52] <AScannerDarkly> Just curious, did anyone else's "Evolution" mail freak out on the upgrade to 11.10?
[01:52] <isteed> i am looking for a way to install an ISO to my netbook, i do not have a USB drive large enough to holdthe iso
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Explodingpiglets: you can use the dd command to write 0s to the partition or drive
[01:52] <ShiningGlass> anybody who runs Spotify: are you able to login? update? I get an error when trying to log in, and sudo apt-get update gives me an error, too
[01:52] <Explodingpiglets> ok
[01:53] <share> Explodingpiglets: dban
[01:53] <share> livecd
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> isteed: you can copy the ISO to a small partition on the drive and install grub to the drive to then boot the ISO, you will need a bootable media to set it all up
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> isteed: the ISO is only 700Mb, you can get a 1Gb USB stick for the price of a can of cola
[01:54] <mattwj2002> any ideas?
[01:54] <isteed> ActionParsnip, ah, dont know why i didnt think about that
[01:54] <isteed> i want to install backtrack, its 2 gig, and i am not near a store, and dont want to format my 32g drive.
[01:55] <drahst> for some reason, I can start libvirtd with the -d and the -l flag manually and it works fine, but I can't start it with libvirt-bin with the -l flag... I don't know why
[01:55] <georgetso> lucianoloder: oh, problem solved
[01:55] <art__> Hi all, I am transitioned to linux, and continue to be amazed at its simplicity and performance. Windows is officially banned from my house. I have a new hard drive on order, what type of format do I use if the system is to be ubuntu only???
[01:55] <lucianoloder> georgetso: how did you fixed it?
[01:55] <jrib> art__: use ext4
[01:56] <lucianoloder> georgetso: how?
[01:56] <art__> tnx jr.
[01:56] <georgetso> lucianoloder: recovery mode, login as root, shutdown -c(which doesnot work, seemingly), reboot to normal
[01:56] <georgetso> lucianoloder: and bong!
[01:56] <georgetso> lucianoloder: it just worked
[01:56] <mattwj2002> I can't do anything with it because I can't type :(
[01:56] <drahst> anyone have any ideas?
[01:57] <lucianoloder> georgetso: good to hear it!
[01:57] <georgetso> lucianoloder: thanks
[01:57] <lucianoloder> georgetso: ah, your welcome, ...
[01:57] <deithrian> PPPOE is not working after installing the Ubuntu 11.10 64bit live CD... I have and still am using the sudo pppoeconf command to get my internet working... I  updated the system and saw that there is a network-manager update but after reboot the network manager is not "managing" the device, how can i make network manager to work again and is PPPOE fixed in this latest update, and to be frank i think it's moronic to release OS with not working pppoe >_>
[01:58] <lucianoloder> georgetso: i had this problem once, an months later i saw this solution in the man pages, just didnt knew it would work, ..
[01:58] <jdjbmedina> how do i get rid of unity in 11.10 and have gnome3 as my desktop
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | jdjbmedina
[01:58] <xangua> jdjbmedina: unity runs on top of gnome, nonsense ;)
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> deithrian: could add the command in /etc/rc.local   to get it working. Add it above the exit 0 line
[01:58] <swim> does conky still work in ubuntu??
[01:58] <crash1hd> jrib, is something like this better? find ./ -name '.png|.jpg|.tif|.psd|.avi' -exec mv '{}' ./ \;
[01:58] <lucianoloder> georgetso: glad to hear it helped, ..
[01:58] <jdjbmedina> ok so i cant get rid of unity?
[01:58] <|Slacker|> unity would be a lot better if written from scratch to run over X
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> swim: i'd imagine so
[01:59] <jrib> crash1hd: does it work? ;)
[01:59] <lucianoloder> georgetso: good luck with your server, ..
[01:59] <georgetso> lucianoloder: anyway, thanks for the hint
[01:59] <crash1hd> jrib, no idea not going to run something that I am not sure is going to work
[01:59] <lucianoloder> georgetso: your welcome, ..
[01:59] <georgetso> lucianoloder: I have all my important data there
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: that'd be a good move, plus lighter
[01:59] <crash1hd> dont want to break it
[01:59] <jrib> crash1hd: change your mv to echo
[01:59] <deithrian> ActionParsnip, if i add this command on a fresh install from the live CD will pppoe work? So i don't have to break network manager with pppoeconf?
[01:59] <|Slacker|> ActionParsnip, for sure
[01:59] <swim> ActionParsnip i've followed several "tutorials" and now i can't even get the basic ugly default one to start up from terminal
[01:59] <crash1hd> jrib, ok :)
[01:59] <diego_> anyone knows glut library?
[01:59] <diego_> glut.h?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> deithrian: try it, its easy to take back out again ;)
[01:59] <art__> seems like many are reporting issues with 11.10-should I avoid it by continuing to run 11.04 (in Xubuntu)
[02:00] <isteed> ActionParsnip, so, if i boot from my usb drive, set up a small partition, i can make grub boot from that partition containing my ISO, correct? or would i need to extract the iso into the partition?
[02:00] <lucianoloder> georgetso: wow, i know how it feels, ..
[02:00] <tabunet> Hi Goode evening everybody! ;)
[02:00] <|Slacker|> art__, xubuntu 11.10 rocks
[02:00] <swim> is there any other system monitors that run on the desktop like conky that anybody else would recommend??
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> isteed: yes, much like copying the WIN98 to the system partiton in Windows (old school)
[02:00] <jrib> crash1hd: as you're likely finding out at this point,  you can't use name like that.  Either use several expressions of the form « -name '*.jpg' » separated by « -or » or use « -regex »
[02:01] <lucianoloder> georgetso: my HD started to fail and all my photos were there, a few months ago, ...
[02:01] <drahst> anyone have any clues why I can start a job by kicking off the daemon options manually but after adding it to the /etc/default/daemon file, the changs don't take?
[02:01] <isteed> ActionParsnip, +1 for oldschool solutions. thank you, im out for now.
[02:01] <lucianoloder> georgetso: that scaried me, ..
[02:01] <ksum> gkrellm works very well
[02:01] <crash1hd> jrib, I would guess it doesnt as well nothing happened
[02:01] <crash1hd> jrib, right
[02:01] <efpc2003> swim: gkrellm
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> swim: you could use gdesklets and junk.
[02:03] <art__> Slacker___, I installed 11.10 over an existing 11.04, it ran very slow for some reason-perhaps I'll do a fresh install of 11.10 when my new d4rive arrives.
[02:03] <|Slacker|> art__, I had the same problem, but it got way bette after a fresh install
[02:03] <swim> ActionParsnip, are those any good?
[02:04] <georgetso> lucianoloder: you take them back?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> swim: i dont use stuff like that. I dislike desktop clutter like that. My system runs fine so CPU/RAM usage isn't interesting to me
[02:04] <pdq> swim: conky working here in unity/gnome-shell
[02:05] <art__> slacker___, did you ever figure out WHY it slowed down???? I'll do the fresh install, which some users on the forum reccomend.
[02:05] <lucianoloder> georgetso: I copied all my data to another HD before it stop working at all, ..
[02:05] <jdjbmedina> when i login to gnome my letters are scrambled
[02:05] <swim> ActionParsnip i understand..  i'm using old equipment and just want to keep an eye on it..  i'm a sucker for old systems
[02:05] <r-endo> aaa
[02:05] <r-endo> ああああ
[02:05] <r-endo> hello
[02:05] <lucianoloder> georgetso: but i was tense for one day or two, untill i copied all data, ..
[02:05] <FloodBot1> r-endo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <crash1hd> jrib, like this find ./ -name '*.png' -or '*.jpg' -exec echo '{}' ./ \; ?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> swim: same, but they are configured well :)
[02:05] <|Slacker|> art__, I haven't, I'm just a typical user...I don't waste time debugging
[02:05] <lucianoloder> georgetso: after that i decided to make a backup in DVD, ...
[02:05] <crash1hd> jrib, obviosy not lol as it doesnt work
[02:06] <|Slacker|> I left those for the experts
[02:06] <jrib> crash1hd: that seems like it would work
[02:06] <swim> pdq i could never use unity on this machine..  it's a 2000 era machine with an ancient cpu and graphics card
[02:06] <lucianoloder> georgetso: we always decide to make a backup after some sh*t happens, dont we???
[02:06] <lucianoloder> georgetso:hehehhe
[02:06] <jrib> crash1hd: you need a "-name" after your "-or"
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> swim: what CPU and RAM amount does it have?
[02:06] <crash1hd> jrib, ahh
[02:06] <crash1hd> jrib, how would I do it with regx
[02:06] <diego_> anyone knows glut library?
[02:07] <diego_> glut.h?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: use iname instead of name too (makes it case [i]nsensitive)
[02:07] <swim> well, i have put a gb of rum, but it's one of those 1.4ghz pentium mobile cpu's
[02:07] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, thanks
[02:07] <swim> ram, not rum...
[02:07] <pdq> mmm rum :]
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> swim: mmmm tasty rum
[02:07]  * ActionParsnip hi5s pdq
[02:07] <pdq> :D
[02:07] <swim> ActionParsnip, idk why i said that, i like scotch
[02:08] <art__> slacker___, I'm a newbee and get snowed by technobabble......but linux is way ahead in terms of simplicity and troubleshooting/repairs.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> swim: i have similar and run KDE, runs ok. The nvidia 6150 onboard helps a lot :)
[02:08] <art__> any ham radio operators aboard????
[02:09] <|Slacker|> art__, that's for sure
[02:09] <semitones> why is it called ham radio
[02:09] <semitones> its not tasty like ham
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> swim: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/system-monitor-indicator-puts-cpu-and.html  may help too
[02:10] <swim> ActionParsnip..  hmm, i haven't tried a kde environment in a few years...  i used to use xfce and lxde all the time, but i've missed my gnome 2.x
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> swim: add the ppa (it supports oneiric) and install indicator-sysmonitor
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> swim: I love LXDE
[02:10] <art__> slacker___, I am running 2 old computers, both of which are obsolete and are nearly usless for windows.....but, linux runs great in them. Linux saved me 5 or 6 hundred dollars by allowing me to hang onto old computers.
[02:10] <pdq> swim, syspeek indicator is also nice
[02:10] <swim> cool, thanks ActionParsnip..
[02:10] <mindsystem> hey guys, is there a way i can export the package list for all xubuntu-x64 packages (links preferred), download them on another computer, and then reinstall from aptitude on the x64 computer? i'm having troubles with it and i can't connect to the network on it atm...
[02:11] <swim> thanks pdq
[02:11] <Starminn> How can I (if at all possible) move the window control buttons to the left-hand side in Gnome-Shell on 11.10. gconf-editor does not appear to be a valid command when attempted to run through ALT+F2
[02:11] <jrib> !offline | mindsystem
[02:11] <|Slacker|> art__, cool dude!
[02:11] <crash1hd> hmm something is wrong I only get the last .jpeg thats all find ./ -iname '*.png' -or -iname '*.jpg' -or -iname '*.tif' -or -iname '*.psd' -or -iname '*.avi' -or -iname '*.mpg' -or -iname '*.mpeg' -or -iname '*.jpeg' -exec echo '{}' ./ \;
[02:11] <art__> semitones___, not sure why it's called ham radio.....
[02:12] <lucianoloder> mindsystem: I never used it, but all packages you install remains in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:12] <lucianoloder> mindsystem: you could "maybe" reinstall all of them from this repository
[02:12] <lucianoloder> mindsystem: maybe with "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archive/*.deb
[02:13] <jrib> crash1hd: group your -name's in escaped parentheses « \( \) ».  Note the -regex solution is a bit easier...
[02:13] <art__> slacker___,reusing old hardware is the ultimate from of recycling......
[02:13] <mindsystem> accidentally cleaned it. also, i'm stuck running in recovery mode (no gui)...
[02:13] <lucianoloder> mindsystem:there should be a cleaner form, maybe look at the apt or dpkg man pages, ..
[02:13] <Generalcamo> hello
[02:14] <ssfdre38> !APTonCD
[02:14] <art__> slacker___, I haven't been on irc since about 1996-------I thought it was obsolete!!!!
[02:14] <Generalcamo> how do I switch to a different server with xchat gnome?
[02:15] <jrib> art__: welcome to ~/ubuntu_quotes :)
[02:15] <Generalcamo> Oh
[02:15] <Generalcamo> Never mind
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: /server servername
[02:15] <Generalcamo> I do not like the interface of oneiric
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: if you switch DE it will be different
[02:16] <pdq> Starminn, hmm gconf-editor working here, i upgraded to 11.10. can find the window controls in /desktop/gnome/shell/windows - i dunno why the editor won't launch though :o
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: Unity/Gnome is not the only interface in Oneiric
[02:16] <Generalcamo> How do I change it?
[02:16] <scorpio> Hi, I'm having trouble with a custom luncher. I cant for the life of me find a way to keep the terminal open after it has executed the command
[02:16] <Generalcamo> I only had two appearence options
[02:16] <Starminn> pdq, Where is your base directory in that?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: sudo apt-get install xfce4   or:  sudo apt-get install lxde
[02:16] <Starminn> pdq, Oh, or is that your path to the options in gconf?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: then log off then when you log in, select the new session
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: there are lots of desktops to choose from
[02:17] <nocturnal_> unity just doesn't feel right on a desktop for me. a tablet i think would work well but for some reason i feel like im reaching over myself to start something
[02:17] <pdq> options path. i start configuration editor via synapse
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Generalcamo: I use KDE here, works fine, no unity
[02:17] <nocturnal_> ActionParsnip: kde4 or 3.5?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal_: if you hold down superL, you can launch stuff using the shortcut numbers you see ;)
[02:18] <lucianoloder> well, i have to go
[02:18] <lucianoloder> bye
[02:18] <nocturnal_> ActionParsnip: i'm on server. but ill try that next time im on unity
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> nocturnal_: 4.7 is default in Oneiric
[02:18] <Starminn> pdq, Alright, well I installed it. Searching it in the USC another reviewer also says it's not included by default. I did a clean reinstall though so this may contribute to it
[02:19] <nathanel> hola amigos! question: which is the best login manager for enlightenment17?
[02:19] <nathanel> something that would be compatible
[02:19] <nathanel> lightdm is being a b*****
[02:20] <pdq> Starminn, ya. i'm not much help with troubleshooting gconf editor to work :P
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: gdm, kdm and slim are 3 I can think of quickly
[02:20] <nathanel> slim?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> !info slim
[02:20] <nathanel> is it clean and fuss free?
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: pretty much
[02:20] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: is it clean and fuss free?
[02:21] <Starminn> pdq, Oh, it works fine now and I found it in just the place you said it would be. But just so you're aware, I'm assuming that on clean installs (such as myself, and I *assume* the sole reviewer) gconf-editor may not be present. Wasn't for me anyway, but a simple search for it in USC "gconf-editor" found its way home to me. :)
[02:21] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: i'm looking on avoiding the stupid session error lightdm privides when you change some little default
[02:22] <pdq> Starminn, aha cool :) i was thinking you had installed it but not working
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: try it is all I can advise, its pretty obediant
[02:22] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: okidoki sir
[02:22] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> nathanel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_login_manager
[02:23] <nathanel> ActionParsnip: one more thing: do you think installing a server image and loading the required essentials would be better for a pandaboard? I find the default is pretty bloated
[02:23] <Starminn> pdq, Oh, no no no lol. What happened was I brought up the Run dialog and it just said, "Command not found". I'm going to assume you guys will be receiving this question a lot in the coming weeks as more and more people experiment with Gnome Shell from Unity backgrounds.
[02:24] <Starminn> pdq, Anyway, tanks for your help! I'm off. :)
[02:25] <nocturnal_> is html5 the future for mobile applications?
[02:26] <kim__> newbie here.  Using Ubuntu 11.10.  How do I start the archiver with graphical sudo?
[02:27] <tp43> #asp
[02:28] <aeon-ltd> kim__: archiver? graphical sudo --> gksudo?
[02:29] <aeon-ltd> kim__: if the application is called 'archiver' a launcher/script with 'gksudo archiver' should be fine
[02:32] <aeon-ltd> kim__: firstly, what is archiver? do you have a link or anything?
[02:32] <kim__> aeon-ltd: I mean the Archive Manager that comes with Unity
[02:33] <bindi> hey, how can I get my system to install all updates needed at 4:00 and reboot if necessary?
[02:34] <soupeee> I've got a 900A EEE with only a 4G SSD and 8GSD card. Oneiric is too big for it. What's the best ubuntu-like distro for it?
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> kim__: file roller?, also are you using gnome?
[02:35] <kim__> I'm using Unity, but yes it's called the file roller
[02:35] <kim__> message above was for aeon-ltd
[02:36] <hoverbear> Hey all, how can I check for failed boot services? (I know something is failing but am not sure what) Which log file?
[02:36] <dr_willis> soupeee:  lubuntu is nice
[02:36] <aeon-ltd> soupeee: server supposedly takes up 1gb, plus install X then a WM + gui apps + swap file(depending on ram you may not need it if you don't use hibernate) and your 4gb is mostly filled up then 8gb for storage etc
[02:37] <JRandolph> Is the torrent tracker down?
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> kim__: gksudo file-roller
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> :)
[02:37] <soupeee> aeon-ltd: what distro? lubuntu?
[02:37] <kim__> aeon-ltd: thanks!
[02:37] <urlin2u> soupeee, if you put oneiric in the 8 gig it should fit, tere is not much difference in sizes in ubuntu release inspite of the desktops, I doubt even a gig difference in install size.
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> soupeee: ubuntu server, my suggestion is a lot of work though, prob 45mins
[02:37] <aeon-ltd> kim__: did it work?
[02:38] <urlin2u> there*
[02:38] <xue> my computer has  no sound  when I update to 11.10
[02:38] <aeon-ltd> urlin2u: 8gb sd card - there will be read/write constraints
[02:39] <urlin2u> aeon-ltd, like what?
[02:39] <kim__> aeon-ltd: sure did, thanks!
[02:39] <aeon-ltd> urlin2u: limited by the sd cards read/write speed.
[02:40] <aeon-ltd> depending on it's class
[02:40] <guanerpao> wo
[02:40] <pico_> hi
[02:40] <urlin2u> aeon-ltd, probably, I was really trying to point out the little diffrence between the size of lubuntu compared to ubuntu really.
[02:41] <guanerpao> 有人吗
[02:41] <pico_> I am trying to install ubuntu server 11.10 on a hardware raid1 but I see two disks at the Partition disks menu and I'm not sure what to do
[02:42] <lyle> anybody have any experience configuring joysticks? i was pretty sure i'd done it correctly, but my dude keeps going to the left =\
[02:42] <oh_no> 中文频道是ubuntu-cn
[02:43] <hoverbear> Bahaha. Does the current laptop-mode-utils package for 11.10 not support kernel 3.x? It tosses errors.
[02:43] <guanerpao> 不会用
[02:43] <isteed> okay, so i have my regular user partition, my partition i want to install a new OS to, and smaller partition with an ISO inside i would like to boot from, how do i google for help making grub boot the iso off the HD
[02:43] <AsSlowAsHell> is there any quick easy way to disable temperature shutdown? it looks like when this laptop gets a little warm ubuntu does a forces clean shutdown -- extremely annoying
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> lyle: there is an app on playdeb which can help with joysticks
[02:44] <lyle> ActionParsnip, is that so, i haven't used playdeb before
[02:44] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: Generally when your laptop starts overheating it's a good idea to shutdown.
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> lyle: its badass, lots of games there too
[02:44] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, spare me the lecutre, i know the heatsink needs a cleaning and its a laptop i got from the garbage so, too lazy to take it apart and clean it right now
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> lyle: cd; wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[02:45] <AsSlowAsHell> i just want a simple answer, not alternate recommenations
[02:45] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: Not giving any lecture. Just making a snarky remark.
[02:45] <NotJimCarrey> anyone figured out a way to play bluray discs yet?
[02:45] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, agreed
[02:45] <vimojnguoi> #ubuntu-vn :D
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> lyle: you can run:  sudo apt-get update   and you are ready to rock. You can use: http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/   and click the install button, the thing you select will then install :)
[02:45] <pico_> Anyone able to help me with installing ubuntu 11.10 server on a raid1 setup?
[02:46] <ubuntu__> Hi
[02:46] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, laptops are "smart" enough to insta shut off when their temps are too high in my experience.  I don't need ubuntu lowering this ceiling even further
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> NotJimCarrey: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[02:48] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: Tell that to my prof's HP. Fried itself in his bag when it woke up from timer. Was pretty halarious
[02:48] <AsSlowAsHell> hoverbear, you tell him for me
[02:48] <lyle> ActionParsnip, thanks i'm trying this out now
[02:49] <hoverbear> AsSlowAsHell: I blame him :-P
[02:51] <s1> pico_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[02:51] <pico_> s1, i dont want to use softwareRaid when i can use hardware though
[02:52] <nowimproved1> has anyone played braid, i have GeForce FX 5200 and the game crashes instantly when i start it like on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1648946
[02:52] <Tehrandumb> you say that, until your raid card dies and you cant find an identical one to replace it
[02:52] <Tehrandumb> and your raid is gone forever
[02:52] <pico_> i never thought of it that way
[02:52] <pico_> i will try it, thanks
[02:53] <guanerpao> alias
[02:53] <Tehrandumb> it's a higher cpu load, but who doesnt have CPU power to burn these days?
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> Tehrandumb: when it's being used for processing. :)
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Tehrandumb: i dont
[02:54] <guanerpao> alias cpu
[02:54] <brandonc503> so in latest ubuntu, where do i find the user and group lst
[02:56] <guanerpao> alias ls
[02:56] <UnknownUser00> in 11.10 i dont have a /boot/grub/menu, or a /boot/grub/grub.conf, how do i edit the menu at boot time?
[02:56] <guanerpao> alias cat
[02:56] <aeon-ltd> guanerpao: are you in the wrong app or something?
[02:57] <aeon-ltd> UnknownUser00: boot get to grub then  'e' unless it's changed in grub2
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: do you mean the groups a user is in?
[02:57] <guanerpao> grub
[02:57] <brandonc503> actually the users in a group
[02:57] <aeon-ltd> !cn
[02:57] <UnknownUser00> aeon-ltd, will that make the changes stay? or will i have to do that each time at boot?
[02:58] <aeon-ltd> that's only at boot time
[02:58] <Atharva> Hi..Is there any LAN video chat software for ubuntu ?
[02:58] <zivester> anyone here have any experience with mdadm and a raid 5 that had a disk kicked out?
[02:59] <guanerpao> zai
[02:59] <kasansweat> Some (but not all) GTK apps don't obey theme rules (set by lxappearance or dconf)  in non standard WMs (eg Awesome) after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10. Any ideas?
[03:01] <coro> Hey, quick question: How do I change the font on a default Ubuntu 11.10 install WITHOUT downloading extra packages?
[03:01] <guanerpao> lkasdfj
[03:02] <dr_willis> perhaps via the gconf editor coro
[03:02] <coro> dr_willis: thanks, but they no longer include gconf-editor with the install
[03:02] <guanerpao> 怎么用
[03:02] <kasansweat> coro: good question, I think both our questions really speak to the huge mistake(s) canonical made this time around.
[03:02] <oh_no> guanerpao, 你只要右击#ubuntu-cn，再点击进入频道就能进入ubuntu的中文频道，请不要在这里捣乱
[03:03] <coro> kasansweat: I know. there are NO configuration tools available
[03:03] <coro> maybe I just don't know what they're called.. but I can't tweak anything that I want to tweak
[03:03] <johnjohn101> when does magnification come to the unity bar?
[03:04] <guanerpao> 不知道点那里
[03:04] <kasansweat> it's really frustrating. I *teach* a linux course and now I'm in the position of possibly having to choose another default distro for the class.
[03:04] <dr_willis> !info gconftool
[03:04] <oh_no> guanerpao,  #ubuntu-cn
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: install members package and you can then run:  members groupname
[03:05] <dr_willis> !find gconftool
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> coro: Gnome3 uses dconf-editor
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !info dconf-editor
[03:05] <smw> kasansweat, is it because of unity/gnome3?
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !info dconf-tools
[03:05] <dr_willis> i ws thinking it was dconf now also
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> coro: just because you don't know of them, doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[03:06] <coro> ActionParsnip: I figured. A lot has changed since the last version. I assume they wouldn't just release a distro with no config tools
[03:07] <johnjohn101> unity doesn't need to be configured.  it's perfect
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> coro: assuming makes an ASS or U and ME
[03:07] <erick> hello
[03:07] <lorin`> kasansweat: try a gtk3 theme? adwaita, zukitwo, greybird etc. not many choices but gtk2 themes look like garbage in 11.10
[03:07] <dr_willis> nail the defaults.. worry about confuging later
[03:07] <kasansweat> smw -- I'm pretty sure they are due to that.
[03:08] <dr_willis> the 700 mb cd limit it getting to be an annoyance for ubuntu users.
[03:08] <kasansweat> lorin: it's a different problem that I'm talking about -- I select the Dust theme, for example -- Firefox obeys it, Leafpad obeys it, Pidgin mostly obeys it:  But Nautilus and Gwibber ignore it entirely.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: 12Mb is enough here ;)
[03:10] <xangua> kasansweat: because nautilus and gwibber are gtk3 apps
[03:10] <dr_willis> gtk2 vs gtk3 apps perhaps
[03:10] <miki_> dvd-rw records 4.7 gb
[03:10] <kasansweat> xangua / dr_willis, that's what I figured.  So in non-standard WMs, there's just no longer any way to theme GTK3 apps? bleh
[03:11] <xangua> kasansweat: use gtk3 themes for gtk3 apps
[03:11] <xangua> ...
[03:11] <xangua> gnome-look.org some there ;)
[03:11] <kasansweat> xangua -- even when I configure them with dconf, they don't obey the settings -- the font stays standard.
[03:11] <kasansweat> etc
[03:12] <johnjohn101> i really wish i could change the color of my desktop fonts on my unity desktop
[03:13] <brandonc503> when are permissions for a file/folder set? when i extract them from zip to comp?
[03:13] <brandonc503> .zip btw
[03:14] <moonunitzappa> Can anyone tell me how i can get rid of UNITY in 11.10?
[03:14] <spencer_> can someone help me?  hid2hci went missing since yesterday's update...  i've tried /etc/udev/default and enable it and still no go
[03:14] <moonunitzappa> just upgraded
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | moonunitzappa
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: if it's a zip, it will be created as the ownership of the extracter
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: tar can retain the permissions it had when it was created afaik
[03:15] <moonunitzappa> are there any downfalls for NOT using unity in 11.10? seems alot harder than 11.04
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: none, I use KDE and its fine
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: no gtk3, no unity
[03:16] <brandonc503> Can i view what permissions it has while in .zip?
[03:16] <ejv> change is hard :)
[03:17] <moonunitzappa> ActionParsnip, do i want the gnome panel or gnome shell? or both
[03:17] <smw> moonunitzappa, classic ubuntu is gone
[03:17] <moonunitzappa> any way i can go back to 11.04?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: try then, see which you prefer
[03:17] <smw> moonunitzappa, gnome-shell is the aweful interface introduced by gnome (as opposed to the aweful one released by ubuntu)
[03:17] <ejv> sure download the iso and isntall it
[03:17] <ejv> install even
[03:18] <kasansweat> Related question: what does Lubuntu currently have running under the hood? Any Unity/Gnome3 there?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: reinstall is the only way back. If you install xfce4 you can use that instead and keep the newer OS
[03:18] <smw> moonunitzappa, I am so far pretty happy with lxde
[03:18] <smw> moonunitzappa, it has some rough edges... but it works :-)
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> kasansweat: it uses gtk3 but uses LXDE instead of gnome desktop and openbox as WM instead of compiz
[03:18] <moonunitzappa> nice
[03:18] <ejv> the l in lubuntu im pretty sure stands for lxde
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> ejv: correct ;)
[03:19] <ejv> it was nearly sarcastic
[03:19] <ejv> lol
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> ejv: haha
[03:19] <moonunitzappa> i think im gonna try and get use to unity for a few days.  tried it before and hated it.
[03:19] <kasansweat> Hmm.  thing is, I use Awesome -- but i'm not trying to have to configure every little thing myself; i'd still rather have apt, etc.
[03:19] <smw> kasansweat, lubuntu steals from gnome, xfce, and puts it on an lxde base.
[03:19] <ejv> i hit my head on the desk when people ask things a simple google search will illuminate
[03:20] <johnjohn101> xcfe is pretty good. unity isn't that bad now
[03:20] <spencer_> anyone uses logitech mx5500 keyboard??
[03:20] <cowslammer> what application is used for copying/burning movies?
[03:20] <ejv> really cowslammer?
[03:20] <SomeoneWeird> lolol
[03:20] <cowslammer> ejv really what?
[03:21] <ejv> if these are home videos of the children, i'd try k3b
[03:21] <bindi> children?
[03:21]  * bindi notifies the authorities
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> ejv: it happens man, just push through
[03:21] <ejv> feels like im giving birth!
[03:21] <ejv> :D
[03:22] <dynamics> how do I open terminal?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> cowslammer: k9copy can rip DVDs afaik
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> !info k9copy
[03:22] <dynamics> how do I log in as root
[03:22] <ejv> you could technically copy using dd
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you dont
[03:22] <dynamics> really?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: if you need a root console, just run:  sudo -i
[03:23] <ejv> i login as root all the time
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: the account is disabled for a billion good reasons
[03:23] <dynamics> where do I run it from
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> ejv: its not advised, supported or necessary
[03:23] <ejv> but my environment is rather unique...
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: a terminal
[03:23] <dynamics> i wasn't asking you ejv
[03:23] <dynamics> whats that?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: just use sudo and gksudo when you need extra power, user access is sufficient for every day tasks
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: what is what?
[03:24] <ejv> ActionParsnip: yea i know, just saves me a step at bootup :)
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> ejv: what is this step?
[03:25] <bindi> ActionParsnip: reminds me of a guy who did a guide for installing nvidia drivers.... (note: you should never do this) sudo bash -> change root password -> ctrl+alt+f1 and log in with root, THEN run the nvidia installer as root..
[03:25] <dynamics> k I google sudo -i it says sudo -s
[03:25] <dynamics> whats the diff?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: both are fine
[03:25] <ejv> ActionParsnip: decryption
[03:26] <bindi> i told him he could have just ran the installer with sudo
[03:26] <dynamics> kk so how do I open terminal?
[03:26] <bindi> he decided to ignore my advice
[03:26] <ejv> applications -> something or other -> terminal
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> ejv: ive not had to decrpt anything here so couldnt comment on that. Lots of users use encryptfs etc and dont log in as root
[03:26] <cixtor> Can use: sudo -u USERNAME COMMAND too
[03:27] <dynamics> not sure what it is
[03:27] <ejv> ActionParsnip: yea im unique, although i use sudo for everything else, once the system is loaded
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: its in dash. For most tasks you wont need terminal at all, the OS will simply ask you for your login password if it needs extra powers
[03:27] <johnjohn101> wow, they ended k9copy
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: basically, if you forget about root, you'll be fine
[03:27] <ejv> dd can copy well... anything
[03:28] <dynamics> it says i need it
[03:28] <celltech> 11.10.   How do I activate classic desktop without the visualizations?
[03:32] <djjoel> then you'll be ready to party.
[03:32] <djjoel> I'm looking for a rap song maybe dubstep about pepperoni does anyone know where I can find that?
[03:32] <dynamics> no all i need is to get rid of this stupid dock that keeps hiding things on the left side
[03:32] <Atharva> !ot
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> djjoel: wrong channel dude
[03:33] <Tohuw> !offtopic|djj
[03:33] <dynamics> great idea that was!
[03:33] <djjoel> o
[03:33] <djjoel> ok
[03:33] <djjoel> my bad my bad i apologize
[03:33] <cixtor> celltech: window-manager --replace, example: metacity --replace
[03:33] <Atharva> !enter
[03:33] <xgt001> hello i suddenly get  logged off and get back to lightdm screen when i use 11.9 catalyst driver in ubuntu 11.10...what may be the problem?
[03:33] <djjoel> ubottu even you are a bot I thank you for your advice as I haven't been on IRC in a while, and you guys too! :D
[03:33] <celltech> command not found
[03:34] <djjoel> dynamics i think im having the same problem
[03:34] <dynamics> do you all know if there is a way to move the dock thingy that keeps pooping out the left side
[03:34] <Tohuw> xgt001: What does dmesg say?
[03:34] <Tohuw> dynamics: at this time, the Unity dock is not very customizable in a user-friendly way.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: its not movable yet
[03:34] <djjoel> I want my classic view back (i dont know if thats what you want too dynamics?), i also installed gnome-tweak via the terminal and now i cant launch/find it
[03:35] <Theory_> xgt001 it is a known problem, I got it too...possibly a driver bug ? 11.9 drivers are very bad drivers right know for Oneiric
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | djjoel
[03:35] <xgt001> Theory_, you too confirm the issue?
[03:35] <johnjohn101> theory_ what drivers load with 11.10 for catalyst?
[03:35] <Theory_> yup
[03:36] <dynamics> me too. I love classic. was a real desktop and I really enjoyed it. I like that ubuntu is becoming more user friendly but man its ugly and slow!
[03:36] <Tohuw> djjoel: Many of the things gnome-tweak-tool do are not as relevant to a Unity environment. However, to run it, press alt+f2 and type gnome-tweak-tool and press enter.  I find Unity perfectly acceptable and responsive, and a better UI than Gnome 2. Also, they will not get rid of  Unity. If you truly hate it, try another distro or just remove Unity.
[03:37] <farrukhjon> hi all help with Card Reader. My Ubuntu 10.04 shows in Nautilus Generic Card Reader but i can't enter to the ? what i need to do ?
[03:37] <Theory_> personally i removed the 11.9...and went for fglrx...way more stable,but without a support for dual screen at least without creating your own xconf file..anyway Ati with Linux is pain since day 1
[03:37] <pdq> why not just install a dockbar/task manager you like dynamics? can do that within unity or gnome-shell or even install something like xfce or kde :)
[03:37] <dynamics> well maybe you mac fans should just buy a mac and leave ubuntu alone
[03:38] <pdq> cairo menu works great with awn
[03:38] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do you connect to an NFS share?
[03:38] <almoxarife> awn?
[03:38] <djjoel> Tohuw i found the gnome-tweak in the alt+f2 menu but enter doesnt do anything and the buttons neither.
[03:38] <pdq> avant window navigator
[03:38] <tensorpudding> dynamics, you can use gnome-shell instead if you want
[03:38] <Tohuw> djjoel: "Many of the things gnome-tweak-tool do are not as relevant to a Unity environment."
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: what has mac got to do with it?
[03:38] <johnjohn101> dynamics, unity has come a long way since 11.04
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: why not just switch to xfce, run AWN and you'll be fine
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: gnome isn't the only desktop you know....
[03:39] <dynamics> this is like a copy of Mac osx. Apple should sue ubuntu like they are trying google.
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: its not, the mac dock is on the bottom, unity's is on the left
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: for a start
[03:39] <dynamics> lol
[03:39] <djjoel> Tohuw I'm a newbie to ubuntu and anything but windows I'll admit it. What should i do to tweak my desktop?
[03:39] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: the troll, do not feed it.
[03:39] <almoxarife> one hint to keep sane, make a link to /users/share/applications , everything that has a gui and a use with a gui is there
[03:39] <Tohuw> djjoel: what are you trying to change?
[03:40] <celltech> 11.10 feels lighter than 11.04
[03:40] <dynamics> its still a dock bro
[03:40] <johnjohn101> actionparsnip and the menu options disappear when you are off the window!!
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: if you use a different DE, you wont have unity running, problem solved
[03:40] <djjoel> id like a new look and feel, also maybe my classic view back instead of this popout left menu
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: I eat trolls for brakfast dude
[03:40] <dynamics> i am going back to windows vista
[03:40] <djjoel> dynamicsfail
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: do it then, no need to tell us
[03:40] <dynamics> better and faster. more stable
[03:40] <djjoel> lol he joking
[03:40] <Tohuw> dynamics: one statement, then I have nothing else to comment on: OS X did not invent the dock. Unity's dock is markedly different than OS X's dock. QED.
[03:40] <cpgo> im on ubuntu 11.10 and after restarting I cant get to login screen anymore, I have two issues - one says cannot mount a drive and I press s to skip, then my screen just starts to flash
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: try xfce, I think you'll find it to your tastes
[03:41] <almoxarife> vista? good choice, better yet, win 3.1
[03:41] <johnjohn101> dynamics, get the windows 8 preview!!
[03:41] <dynamics> no
[03:41] <Theory_> cairo dock works the same way osx dock does...whats up with these docks these days....Openbox anyone ? :P
[03:41] <dynamics> how?
[03:41] <djjoel> better yet use the ps3 and surf internet dynamics!!
[03:41] <djjoel> or just surf via cell on the G3 NETWORK!
[03:42] <Tohuw> I have a dream that one day, users will understand Ubuntu is truly theirs, and that if they are willing to take the time, they can customize and own it to their heart's content. Until that day, I'll keep honing my skim-reading skills.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: so you'd change to an earlier release, just because the DE you have is not to your likeing, despite the fact you can change it, and easily?
[03:42] <spencer_> anyone uses logitech mx5500 keyboard??
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: thats really ignorant dude
[03:42] <Tohuw> !anyone| spencer_
[03:42] <djjoel> Tohuw: I know I can do it to! It's proLLy just a click away too... or a terminal command :)?
[03:42] <dynamics> why change something that worked?
[03:42] <dynamics> change is hard
[03:42] <djjoel> so is life
[03:42] <spencer_> can someone help me?  hid2hci went missing since yesterday's update...  i've tried /etc/udev/default and enable it and still no go
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: Gnome2 has been dropped by the Gnome team
[03:43] <dynamics> forced it on me and I don't like that.
[03:43] <Tohuw> djjoel: I think I missed something there. What did you want to change?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: so Ubuntu movd to what is actively supported rather than a dead project
[03:43] <cpgo> while my screen is flashing I can my video cars fan speed increasing and decreasing very fast
[03:43] <dynamics> lets start a new gnome team
[03:43] <djjoel> My layout something like ThemeXP but for me in ubuntu 11.10!
[03:43] <johnjohn101> gnome is getting an earful from the linux community.
[03:43] <dsnyders> Is it possible to access an NFS share from the places menu, or does it need to be mounted manually?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: check out the 'mate' fork
[03:43] <dynamics> we can do it actionparsnip
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you are demonstrating lack of knowledge dude
[03:43] <djjoel> The defaults just dont do it for me...
[03:43] <Tohuw> djjoel: I'm not sure what ThemeXP is. What specifically are you trying to change?
[03:44] <djjoel> well i want classic ubuntu view back no popout bar
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: why start a new team, when one exists...
[03:44] <dom_1roxtar> I just can't get used to Gnome Shell, yet Unity feels like second nature now
[03:44] <dynamics> this os looks like something on my kids toy leapfrog computer
[03:44] <djjoel> then i would like a nice crystal or metallic theme for the desktop
[03:44] <Tohuw> !unity| djjoel
[03:44] <Theory_> a nice setup : tint2,conky,pcmanfm,openbox  - simple,clutter free minimal desktop
[03:44] <osmosis> what can I use to edit an flv file, chop it down in size?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: then change the DE and it will look different
[03:44] <Tohuw> djjoel: Meant to link you to nounity.
[03:44] <dynamics> what is de?
[03:44] <almoxarife> dsnyders: from unity?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: desktop environment
[03:44] <johnjohn101> xubuntu is fine if you want gnome like de
[03:45] <djjoel> How do I type to people again I'm refreshing my IRC skills
[03:45] <pdq> personally i think gnome-shell desktop environment is very much like classic, once you add awn+dockbarx and cairo menu that is :P
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: look at screenshots of XFCE, LXDE, KDE, Enlightenment. They are all different, don't use Unity and available in Oneiric
[03:45] <Tohuw> djjoel: in most clients, start typing their name and press tab to autocomplete.
[03:45] <pdq> cause thats all thats missing really is the menu that people miss and perhaps their indicators which most have replacements for
[03:45] <johnjohn101> pdq, do you have a screenshot of your desktop
[03:45] <dynamics> do they still have that 666 distro?
[03:45] <jeremy-77> If you got a program the runs in full screen and freezes up how do you force it to quit the program?
[03:45] <pdq> sec
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: the thing you are badmouthing can be CHANGED
[03:45] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: you're missing the part where the user would prefer to complain rather than resolve.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: why not just change the bit you dislike and then be happy
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: we'll get there, education is key :)
[03:46] <dynamics> well maybe your right?
[03:46] <djjoel> Tohuw, ok. Actually first things first. When I updated to this version of ubuntu I cannot run the main version I have to go back to previous versions and run the old one.... which appears as ubuntu 11.10 anyways?
[03:46] <dynamics> not like I paid for it
[03:46] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Unity?  I'm not sure what you mean by that.  I'm running 10.04 (I think) and gnome.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: yes, you are forgetting one of the core principles of Linux distribution. it can be changed
[03:46] <mindsystem> is there a way to make aptitude install from downloaded packages? i'm stuck without a gui after attempting to switch to xubuntu from ubuntu. and i want to follow this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18920/any-way-to-get-a-fresh-ubuntu-desktop-without-re-installing/18993#18993
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: what if you don't like the desktop in Windows, you have no alternative do you?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you get what you are given
[03:47] <almoxarife> dsnyders: got you, places should include 'network/s'
[03:47] <dynamics> yeah and vista was win!
[03:47] <pdq> johnjohn101, http://i.imgur.com/r1Xxs.jpg :P clicked menu so can see
[03:47] <dom_1roxtar> If you don't like Unity on Ubuntu, then get your money back.  Ask for your Ubuntu tax back...Oh, wait....It's Free
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: fine, what if you don't like the desktop in vista and want to change it, what can you do?
[03:48] <djjoel> Tohuw, however, everything seems to be running fine. Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu from within ubuntu?
[03:48] <cixtor> mindsystem: $ sudo dpkg -i -y /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[03:48] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: depends on just how badly it freezes. First try alt+f2. If the run window appears, type gnome-system-monitor and select to end the process. If nothing responds, press ctrl+alt+f2 and login (you'll be in a terminal session). From there run sudo ps ax|grep whateverwasrunning to find the process ID. Then sudo kill x, where x is the process ID you're trying ot kill.
[03:48] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Places->Network, yes?
[03:48] <pdq> but i am not fan of classic taskbar i like a good dock :)
[03:48] <dynamics> install ubuntu lol
[03:48] <almoxarife> dsnyders: that sounds right
[03:48] <Tohuw> djjoel: What do you mean "previous versions"? You have to select an older kernel in GRUB?
[03:48] <djjoel> Tohuw, I fear I may have done some terminal actions in a "top 10 things to do after installing ubuntu" page and some things didnt go as planned
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: no, reply intelligently. What can you do?
[03:48] <johnjohn101> pdq, thanks, that looks great.  -1 C doesn't
[03:49] <djjoel> Tohuw, yES an older version in GRUB
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you want windows vista but dislike the desktop.
[03:49] <dynamics> change the theme
[03:49] <mindsystem> cixtor: i accidentally cleaned the cache a while ago. but i'm working on downing the appropriate packages.
[03:49] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  cool that is what I needed to know. thanks
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you can't change it. You are flat stuck
[03:49] <dynamics> i know. im just messing around about vista
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: in Ubuntu, you have CHOICE. You don't have to use Gnome or Unity
[03:49] <dynamics> thought it would make you all laugh
[03:49] <bindi> actually you can change the theme in vista
[03:49] <Tohuw> djjoel: First lesson: don't copy-paste code or instructions if you aren't completely aware of the effects.  What was I thinking?!? I guess I was a little bit excited and trusting...
[03:50] <johnjohn101> once mate is ported to gtk3, argument over
[03:51] <almoxarife> dsnyders: the filesystem you want into is public?
[03:51] <Tohuw> djjoel: If your current kernel is broken, let's try a few things. From terminal, let's update your sources so we can get the latest information on what can be upgraded. Type sudo apt-get update and press enter.
[03:51] <cpgo> im on ubuntu 11.10 and after restarting I cant get to login screen anymore, I have two issues - one says cannot mount a drive and I press s to skip, then my screen just starts to flash
[03:51] <dom_1roxtar> Elementary OS looks promising too
[03:51] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  my WOW game froze and I tried to alt tab but couldn't get out. the mouse would change but could not get back to main desktop. finally hit the sleep button on keyboard and woke pc back and then was able to kill wow.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you can have your desktop look like this: http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/8.10-upgrade/upgrade3-wee.png    or this: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/S9MdKHIUWZI/AAAAAAAAA5Q/cwrPAhdbtG8/lubuntu-beta3-screenshot.png
[03:51] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Are you suggesting that if I can't see it, it ain't public?
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: see how absolutely changable it is?
[03:52] <dsnyders> almoxarife, I'll have to look into that.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: see how DRASTICALLY changable the deskto pis
[03:52] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: It seems a number of people have had odd problems with WoW in Linux. I have seen a few people suggest disabling all power saving or going so far as to remove ACPI from the kernel at start, which seems an unworthy trade-off for a game in my mind.
[03:52] <almoxarife> dsnyders: ok
[03:52] <djjoel> Tohuw, Done, next step? :)
[03:52] <dynamics> yeah...how i do that?
[03:52] <cixtor> mindsystem: dont worry, you can install any package from any location on your system with: dpkg, try to use comodin (*) to force the "Deb Package" install the deps (this dont work in all cases, but you can try it)
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: install a different desktop, its a package like any other
[03:53] <dynamics> k. so where do I start to look for a new one?
[03:53] <pdq> ActionParsnip,  is it good to recommend sites like webupd8?
[03:53] <johnjohn101> dynamics,  you should install puppy to get JWM
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> dynamics: you can get the 2nd one by installing LXDE, logging off then choosing lxde as your session, the first one is KDE and you can install plasma-dekstop in software center and chosse kde as the session
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> pdq: its just for the image
[03:54] <Tohuw> djjoel: Now, let's see what updates there are out there, because there's a chance a new kernel may be available, or that a patches are available that will inadvertantly fix your kernel. We're not going to jump on reinstalling the kernel package just yet. In terminal, type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. This command upgrades the system with the available packages, even if some new packages ask for removal of existing packages.
[03:54] <pdq> i just mean, i found lots of these kinda questions with good how tos there
[03:54] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  i have not had many problems with wow in 10.04 but 11.04 and 11.10 are super buggy and had many problems so I will stick with stable 10.04
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> pdq: webupd8 have some pretty decent guides too :)
[03:54] <pdq> yeppers
[03:54] <Theory_> openbox thats all i have to say :P
[03:55] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: Sorry to hear you are having issues with stability in regards to WoW.  I created a local repository, how to give access to another user, I gave the public access to that folder.  More! Give me more! :)
[03:56] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  maybe its my hardware ?
[03:56] <pdq> with all the choices out there evryone has there favorite setups. i've never been a fan of any default install setup
[03:56] <leapfrog> I was joking about vista bro
[03:56] <johnjohn101> at least ubuntu has unity. can't imagine how sick fedora users will be
[03:56] <adminewb> their favorite setups
[03:56] <djjoel> Tohuw, I'm writing this all down thanks!
[03:57] <hawkeye> ?
[03:57] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: Perhaps. If you're using ATI, their proprietary driver seems to have worsened for many people.
[03:57] <celltech> I love gtkorphan :D
[03:58] <celltech> remove orphaned packages to help clean up the system and make it more efficient
[03:58] <Dracofodder> I just accidentally deleted the wally applet from my panel on ubuntu 10.10, now when it starts I have no way to change configuration. I've tried deleting the .wally directory and restarting, but it not coming back. is there a way to retrieve this? reset the gnome panel app perhaps?
[03:58] <hawkeye> android tether with wifi how do i mack it work in 11.10
[03:58] <hugenumber> would anyone be able to assist me with a cmos question?
[03:59] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  im running radeon hd 2600xt with 11.9 catalyst
[03:59] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Turns out that the nfs daemon wasn't running on the server.
[03:59] <almoxarife> dsnyders: fixed then?
[03:59] <Tohuw> djjoel: After you update, try asking GRUB to reconfigure. It could be it is pointing to an invalid kernel altogether. From terminal: sudo grub-mkconfig && sudo update-grub. These two commands ask GRUB to make a configuration file from the parts in /etc/default and /etc/grub, and then update grub with this new configuration.
[04:00] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  I am getting 30 to 50 fps in uncrowded areas and 19 to 20 in crowded places or cities
[04:00] <celltech> sudo ? for start up apps to disable
[04:00] <hawkeye> android tether how do i make it work on 11.10
[04:00] <Tohuw> djjoel: If you still cannot boot into the kernel after that, find the package associated with the kernel and report back here so I can help you use the dpkg tool to reinstall it.
[04:01] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: how did you install catalyst?
[04:01] <theboxtheory> celltech if you are in Oneiric you can conf your start-up apps in the upper right corner...
[04:01] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, from ati website and just ran it
[04:01] <theboxtheory> http://wiki.cchtml.com/
[04:01] <Tohuw> hawkeye: Is tethering natively supported by your phone, or are you using a third-party app?
[04:01] <dsnyders> almoxarife, Not entirely sure.  I'm connected to the server, but I think it's via samba rather than nfs.  However, since the point was to connect to the server to transfer files, the exact mechanism isn't necessarily critical.
[04:01] <celltech> system settings?
[04:01] <farrukhjon> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/smb could not be found ? why ?
[04:01] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: completely remove that and run hardware drivers. Try the version it suggests.
[04:02] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, I ran a program called mangler when wow froze this time
[04:02] <spencer_> can someone help me?  hid2hci went missing since yesterday's update...  i've tried /etc/udev/default and enable it and still no
[04:02] <jeremy-77> Tohuw,  I will try that and see
[04:02] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: interesting, I just apt-cache searched mangler. I did not know that existed. Thank you.
[04:02] <RandomRoger> Hello, I installed adobe flash plug in from the partner repo and restarted Firefox, but I still do not have flash working, can anyone offer help ?
[04:02] <basix> does anybody know of an application which is like dropbox but it syncs stuff to your own ftp/nfs/smb/sftp server?
[04:03] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, I love it. it works great as a native linux vent
[04:03] <almoxarife> dsnyders: from ubuntu side samba
[04:03] <basix> RandomRoger, define 'not working' ?
[04:03] <RandomRoger> Browser does not have the plugin basix
[04:04] <basix> RandomRoger, how did u install adobe flash?
[04:04] <RandomRoger> with apt-get through the partner repo
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> !away > weeb0_away
[04:05] <RandomRoger> running 11.10 btw
[04:05] <basix> RandomRoger, hang on
[04:05] <RandomRoger> Ok, thanks.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> RandomRoger: can you please PASTEBIN the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gansh|swf|spark'
[04:05] <w1clcly> Does anyone think 11.10 menus look a lot like Mac menus?
[04:05] <RandomRoger> yes
[04:05] <theboxtheory> yes
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> w1clcly: not at all
[04:06] <pdq> whats a mac
[04:06] <bindi> I think the new unity dash thingy is a waste of space ... the icons are REALLY too big :/
[04:06] <basix> RandomRoger,  /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so <- do u have this file?
[04:06] <theboxtheory> see the system preferences in mac os x and the Oneiric ones...they do look kinda similar...but who cares..?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> bindi: you can resize them in ccsm
[04:07] <bindi> ActionParsnip: why are they so big by default? same with the unity bar
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: +1
[04:07] <djjoel> k brb Tohuw
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> bindi: no idea, but default doesn't mean a lot
[04:07] <RandomRoger> http://pastebin.com/G6a14qjr pastbin from command
[04:07] <RandomRoger> basix checking
[04:07] <RandomRoger> Yes basic I do
[04:07] <RandomRoger> basix*
[04:07] <johnjohn101> i really would like the snow effect back in compiz
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> RandomRoger: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386 adobe-flashplugin adobe-flash-properties-gtk; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[04:08] <basix> RandomRoger, now type this in your location bar on firefox -> about:plugins
[04:08] <almoxarife> what's the os in 'kindle fire'?
[04:08] <basix> almoxarife, android
[04:08] <gentoofan> Does anyone know if the Unigine Oilrush game works on an Intel Sandybridge GPU?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> bindi: a tonne of stuff is default in ubuntu but I change it how I like, firefox is the default browser but I always rip it right out and install a browser I like
[04:08] <RandomRoger> Not showing flash basix. Trying that now now ActionParsnip
[04:08] <theboxtheory> the problem with flash in any linux or unix system for that matter isnt the install..is getting it to work properly...
[04:09] <bindi> ActionParsnip: yes well i'm not expecting stupid decisions by default on fresh things
[04:09] <basix> RandomRoger, cool.
[04:09] <Tohuw> theboxtheory: Flash has worked flawlessly for me since 10.10...
[04:09] <almoxarife> can't wait to own a 199 dollar tablet with cracked andriod then
[04:09] <TrevorBradley> Help!  Anyone know what I might have done with my install-info package?  All apt-get programs now give an error: "Setting up install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1) ...
[04:09] <TrevorBradley> Not a directory: MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO=1.
[04:09] <TrevorBradley> "
[04:09] <Tohuw> theboxtheory: But, perhaps I don't use flash as much as others. I may be a bad test case.
[04:09] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, can I use the ati installer to remove it or should i use terminal ?  and if I use teminal what is the apt-get remove ?
[04:10] <RandomRoger> Ok, flash is working now. Thanks basix and ActionParsnip
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: here its:  sudo cp ~/Dropbox/Linuxy\ Bits/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: works every time :)
[04:10] <TrevorBradley> find . | xargs grep MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO gives no results from my home directory...
[04:10] <hawkeye> how do i get android tether to work with 11.10
[04:10] <basix> RandomRoger, congrats ;)
[04:10] <pdq> i find the firefox addon flash-aid works great
[04:10] <hawkeye> ?
[04:10] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: Remove it from software center. Search ATI and remove stuff that's installed. Be prepared for possible badthings. ActionParsnip, do you remember the ubottu trigger for fixing X after your config/3rd party drivers have been borked?
[04:10] <johnjohn101> what does flash-aid do?
[04:11] <djjoel> Tohuw,  it feels like you have a long distance relationship with my computer and this is the sweet sweet intercourse
[04:11] <basix> now, for my question.. does anybody know of an opensource project which syncs stuff local stuff to a remote server? I really don't want to write my own rsync scripts!
[04:11] <hawkeye> android tether how do i make it work on 11.10
[04:11] <w1clcly> theboxtheory: That's exactly what I thought too.
[04:11] <Tohuw> djjoel: Too much information. What you do to your computer in the privacy of your room is strictly don't ask, don't tell in my book.
[04:11] <pdq> johnjohn101, i think it just does what ActionParsnip said to do. Remove conflicting flash plugins from Ubuntu/Debian Linux systems, install the appropriate version according to system architecture and apply some tweaks to improve performance and fix common issues.
[04:11] <Tohuw> basix: deja-dup
[04:11] <almoxarife> I got wifi(n) to work on ubuntu 11.10, I was not that amazed
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> basix: dropbox
[04:12] <djjoel> Tohuw, LOL :P its done. restarting in a minute once convos are done in FB :) just made my friend a picture of himself with ALL this free software!
[04:12] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: dropbox is  not open.
[04:12] <osmosis> what can I use to edit an flv file, chop it down in size?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: ah, missed that
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> basix: ubuntuone
[04:13] <almoxarife> osmosis: the pitivi app?
[04:14] <jeremy-77> Tohuw, the ati catalyst is not showing in the software center in installed software
[04:14] <Tohuw> osmosis: ffmpeg can, but it's a bit like using a chainsaw to carve a teaspoon. There are other projects for flv editing in Linux, but I have not used any of them. Try hunting around ffmpeg's documentation for manipulating flv's
[04:14] <Tohuw> jeremy-77: dpkg --get-selections|grep -i cata
[04:15] <w1clcly> Does anyone have a favorite release of Ubuntu?
[04:15] <ejv> fiesty fawn was pretty great
[04:16]  * ejv sigh memories
[04:16] <pdq> w1clcly, 11.10 till 12.04 is out hehe. i didn't start till karmic :)
[04:17] <TASK> Hi, How can I reduce the battery consumption of my Ubuntu 11.10 installation (i5, NV GT540M optimus)?
[04:18] <w1clcly> I started when Natty was just released. I looked back at maverick and man did they change a lot. (Cosmetically)
[04:18] <TrevorBradley> Oh well, ubuntuforms.org it is. :)
[04:18] <TrevorBradley> *forums
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TASK: use a light DE will allow the CPU to run slower and use less power
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> TASK: keep brightness low
[04:20] <TASK> ActionParsnip: With Windows7 I have battery power for 9h with Linux only 2h :(
[04:21] <TASK> Standard installation without Nvidia grfx driver... there must be something wrong
[04:23] <D3RGPS31> I have an asus 1215n-pu17, how do i set it so just the nvidia 'card' is used :l
[04:24] <basix> ActionParsnip, thanks but i dont want to sync stuff to dropbox's servers
[04:25] <prixaplan> Anti-ubuntu
[04:25] <w1clcly> basix: so get an external HDD
[04:25] <w1clcly> prixaplan: Why?
[04:26] <prixaplan> becuase it's a debian ripoff
[04:26] <prixaplan> It's like taking Debian unstable/testing and turning it into wheezy
[04:26] <w1clcly> and so your a debain fanboy/girl.
[04:26] <prixaplan> It's like Firefox going from 3.5.1 all the way to Firefox 7 in 9 months
[04:26] <w1clcly> Well is't better than a Mac.
[04:27] <D3RGPS31> prixaplan: it'd be a ripoff if it mirrored the debian repos and just changed branding :l ubuntu has their own repos
[04:27] <w1clcly> Hahha. i know about firefox. When that happened I just stopped.
[04:27] <prixaplan> me too
[04:27] <prixaplan> I switched to Google Chrome/Chromium
[04:27] <w1clcly> Switched to chrome finally.
[04:27] <robertzaccour> there is bad static in audio recording. is there a fix?
[04:27] <robertzaccour> I even tried using a headset
[04:28] <basix> w1clcly, i have a NAS
[04:28] <prixaplan> Firefox killed off some of its user base by making a whole number version increase for each security patch
[04:28] <theboxtheory> it was a debian rip off....know its on its own completely.Its like stealing a song,peak at #1 and then produce original great songs after that :P
[04:28] <prixaplan> whatever
[04:29] <prixaplan> Some people like the menus of Ubuntu better
[04:29] <basix> firefox versioning is a mess. they've gone from being the leaders to 'me too!!!11'
[04:29] <prixaplan> But you have to remember, Firefox is owned by AOL, which laid off 1/3 of its employees
[04:29] <tensorpudding> !ot | prixaplan
[04:29] <prixaplan> and AOLers were the people who always posted "me too!" begging for porn in alt.binaries.pictures.erotica newsgroups in the early 90s
[04:30] <w1clcly> AOL is like a dropped egg.
[04:30] <w1clcly> Cracked all the way to the center
[04:30] <robertzaccour> does aol still exist?
[04:30] <TASK> The power consumption of Ubuntu is a really serious problem: therefore, it's currently not usable as tablet or notebook OS *sad
[04:31] <w1clcly> haha I am sure. In a lost corner of the internet.
[04:31] <robertzaccour> there is bad static in audio recording. is there a fix?
[04:31] <robertzaccour> I even tried using a headset
[04:31] <prixaplan> Yes, AOL still exists, most people still using AOL for broadband are oldbies or 20-30 year old women who were girls when AOL had the highest percentage of female users
[04:31] <pangolin> The topic for #ubuntu is Ubuntu support. Please take the off topic to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:31] <w1clcly> robertzaccour: do you mean recording with a mic?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> TASK: probably some proprietary acpi stuff then, are there bugs reported?
[04:33] <Asad2005> Why apple is not making an itune version for linux? Do i have to run two PCs or duel boot just for syncing my iphone
[04:34] <Asad2005> Are we not raising issue in a good manner to force them to do it
[04:34] <theboxtheory> cause they dont care about us :/
[04:34] <w1clcly> Macintosh pretty much says I don't know what I am using so I will leave it to the tech's.
[04:34] <robertzaccour> is there any way to record audio without static?
[04:34] <Asad2005> Linux community is too large and deserve a glance from appl
[04:34] <robertzaccour> I don't have this issue in windows
[04:35] <Tohuw> Asad2005: Apple has exactly no motivation to make iTunes for Linux. Windows has the largest user base in the world, Macs are their product, Linux is a marginalized product at this point.
[04:35] <w1clcly> robertzaccour: are you recording with an external microphone?
[04:35] <robertzaccour> w1clcly: tried that too
[04:36] <theboxtheory> try lower the mic lvls...use Audacity...try swith around sound drivers to see which one is the best for you
[04:36] <w1clcly> robertzaccour: did you recently update your system. Also why not try a different recording software/program.
[04:38] <theboxtheory> also unless you have a good mic..static noise is unfortunately an unavoidable issue.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: if they did then more folks would buy, look at nvidia
[04:40] <nac-godfather> anyone know I can change the permissions on a file from lrwxrwxrwx to -rwxr-xr-x ?  It's really important.
[04:40] <robertzaccour> w1clcly same issue. tried sound recorder and recordmydesktop
[04:42] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: Linux accounts for < 3% of the global consumer desktop market, and that's an optimistic perspective. Apple has no reason to promote usage of another OS. If they could get away without making Windows apps, they would. The key to success for Ubuntu is forging of its own path; not begging at the feet of software vendors to turn out more closed-source software so users can keep doing everything as they've always done it.
[04:42] <bbrandon> !notunity brandonn
[04:43] <Tohuw> bbrandon: you can /msg ubottu and ask it questions in there, just so you know.
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: so why have nvidia supported linux so well for so long?
[04:44] <jim__> How can I change my desktop back to classic within Ubuntu 11.04?
[04:45] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: Because they don't have a vested interest in another OS? Because they manufacture chipsets for appliances that run Linux? Because Intel has more money than the Internet has lolcats?
[04:45] <Tohuw> !unity| jim__
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: they do have vested interest in other OSes as gamers will almost always install Windows
[04:46] <Tohuw> ActionParsnip: Correct, which is why most of their work goes towards Windows. However, they are not Microsoft. They don't make Windows. Cie la difference.
[04:46] <jim__> So I would need to downgrade Ubuntu in order to make my desktop similar to what I had?
[04:46] <heyitseric> jim__ reboot on the login screen look at the bottom of the screen where it says ubuntu desktop click on that and you can switch it back in that list
[04:47] <Tohuw> Anyway this is !ot. If you would like to continue this conversation, I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic, ActionParsnip
[04:47] <Tohuw> jim__: That is nto at all what the factoid said.
[04:47] <Tohuw> !notunity| jim__
[04:47] <jim__> I checked that when I restarted again and all my choices are Ubuntu and Ubuntu2d or terminal
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Tohuw: its simply apples shortsightedness, just like everything they do.
[04:48] <jim__> where do I get eh "gnome-shell" package?
[04:48] <theboxtheory> jim_ so youre running 11.10 Oneiric not 11.04.
[04:48] <heyitseric> there's a reason why i stuck with maverick
[04:49] <soundconjurer> How do I shrink the icons in Unity Dash Home
[04:49] <heyitseric> he has to be running 11.10, i tried 11.04 and the option to switch back was there
[04:49] <JusticeZero> Can anyone help me get more information to explain to my landlord that his wifi is giving us a hard time? We get periodically dropped, connection isn't disconnected but it stops working, then after awhile we can log back in and go through the redirect screen. I was showing 12% packet loss to google.com a couple minutes ago.
[04:49] <jim__> 11.10
[04:49] <dynamics> .0
[04:49] <theboxtheory> there is no reason to stuck.You can still download and use the gnome2 and have a wide selection of alts,KDE,Enlighment,Openbox,Xfce etc...
[04:50]  * JusticeZero has to upgrade to try E. :p
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: kde is available in oneiric, as is openbox
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: as is xfce
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4 | theboxtheory
[04:50] <soundconjurer> well the icons in the dashhome of unity are too big and they are partially cut off.
[04:50] <jim__> where do I get eh "gnome-shell" package?
[04:50] <jim__> the*
[04:51] <soundconjurer> I don't understand where there isn't something to alter their size
[04:51] <theboxtheory> i know thats what i said.:P
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: why would the other DEs and WMs not be made available in Oneiric??
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: oh, re-read, my bad
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> theboxtheory: sincere apolgies
[04:51] <Aquaguy> Hey any of you have ever used pure-ftpd?
[04:52] <theboxtheory> ActionParsnip: hehe np :)
[04:52] <JusticeZero> I'm looking for suggestions on what diagnostics I need to run before I try to talk to my network admin next. Whenever I talk to them they go "You must be using a really ancient system or have a virus."
[04:52] <brandonc503> how do i find my user groups in new ubuntu?
[04:52] <heyitseric> jim__ sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[04:53] <nitin> groups $username
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> JusticeZero: there are few viruses for linux, and none are wild
[04:54] <soundconjurer> also....
[04:54] <nitin> @brandonc503 groups $username
[04:54] <soundconjurer> There is no way for me to send files from bluetooth
[04:54] <soundconjurer> in Ubuntu 10.04 it had an option to accept files from device
[04:54] <soundconjurer> and also a place to put them
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: sure, use the bluetooth app on the panel (afaik)
[04:55] <soundconjurer> but... now it just doesn't work at all.
[04:55] <jaypro> how do i know if my video card drivers are being used?  i can't tell in the new ubuntu os
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[04:55] <soundconjurer> Oh, I've used it to the fullest of its extent
[04:55] <soundconjurer> Connecting the devices, syncing them.
[04:55] <soundconjurer> still can't send files from my phone to my computer
[04:55] <soundconjurer> in 10.04 I was able to
[04:55] <soundconjurer> 11.10 laughs at me
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11356290#post11356290   seems you aren't alone.
[04:58] <zivester> can someone tell me how to run http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/ on my xubuntu machine?
[04:58] <soundconjurer> awesome
[04:58] <soundconjurer> since I can never find this stuff
[04:58] <soundconjurer> I have a ton of things I need to find.
[04:58] <jaypro> ActionParsnip> ahh... i guess it recognized it... but with this new card, i figured it would be able to handle 480p video (2.66 GHz 2GB Memory + Video card)
[04:58] <JusticeZero> ActionParsnip: I know. He also felt that clearly Lucid was absolutely ancient, older than the windows 95 installs he has around.
[04:58] <jaypro> hrmmm
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: if you install nautilus-sendto you shuold be able to sendto from nautils
[04:59] <soundconjurer> I want to send files from my phone to my computer
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: which gpu is it?
[04:59] <jaypro> does 11.10 seem slower to you guys?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: ahh, i see
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: runs fine here
[05:00] <zivester> runs fine here...  anyone running unity?
[05:01] <soundconjurer> me
[05:01] <zivester> have u run this: http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/
[05:01] <zivester> im trying to figure out what package that is.. so i can install it and run it
[05:01] <jaypro> ActionParsnip> ahh well, its ati radeon 9250
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/822141
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> jaypro: I dont use ati, so couldn't comment
[05:02] <brandonc503> where in the ui of latest ubuntu can i find users and groups
[05:02] <jaypro> oh okay...
[05:02] <brandonc503> not the terminal
[05:02]  * tMH- is gone. nsf
[05:02] <FerchoLP> I have a fat32 partition. I don't have it configured on /etc/fstab, but Nautilus shows me the link to mount it anyway.
[05:03] <FerchoLP> The problem is that it mount it as read only for group and others, so I have problems with some programs that use data in that fat32 partition
[05:03] <FerchoLP> if I configure that partition on /etc/fstab, Nautilus shows 2 bookmarks to that partition
[05:03] <JusticeZero> ActionParsnip: this was his excuse to say "it's not my problem, I don't know what you're complaining about". I want to have some good solid diagnostic test results to throw back at him when he gives me lip again.
[05:03] <JusticeZero> So that maybe I can actually get the problem RESOLVED.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> brandonc503: I beleieve it's in the cog in the top right
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Justasic: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:04] <brandonc503> ya looked up there but dont see it
[05:04] <jim__> heyitseric, TY
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Justasic: what network chip are you using?
[05:04] <Justasic> ok, hit tab 2x not 1
[05:05] <sahilsk> can anyone tell me how can i create a database link in linux? how to specify the remote machine ip and port ? In window we use this : "//<IP_ADDRESS>:1521/sid". any help would be great. :)
[05:05] <nitin> @brandonc503 on top right corner you have a cog wheel click on that ->system setting ->(bottom right ) users accounts
[05:05] <JusticeZero> network hiccough. we get those every few minutes.
[05:05] <brandonc503> oh ya i found that but dosent show all users or any groups
[05:06] <magn3ts> why is audio not being emitted by my left hand side?!!!!!
[05:06] <JusticeZero> Anyways, I want to do some diagnostics and have some actual data and numbers to throw back at the network admin when they start that song and dance.
[05:07] <JusticeZero> If someone answered, it was lost in the ether. :p
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: use nautilus and you can connect to samba shares, you can even bookmark them for easy access later
[05:07] <psingh> !notunity
[05:08] <sahilsk> ActionParsnip: i didn't get you. i don't need to share anything, just need to create database link between two remote database. I just don't knwo where to provide ip and port number.
[05:09] <oliver__> anybody know what is the other version of dreamweaver for ubuntu?
[05:09] <magn3ts> LOL
[05:09] <oliver__> do u have any idea guys?
[05:09] <magn3ts> The audio coming from VLC is unbalanced compared to mplayer
[05:09] <magn3ts> how is that possible?
[05:09] <oliver__> i need dreamweaver version of linux
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: ahh i see
[05:10] <tdawg> If anyone has the time, I need some help. upowerd is always using 75-100% of my cpu, been reading around everywhere, I need to downgrade upower I believe?
[05:10] <oliver__> any body out there is there any idea?
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: check the audio balance in vlc
[05:10] <magn3ts> oliver__, what are you looking for.
[05:10] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, I did, and I blew away .local/share/vlc too
[05:10] <oliver__> dreamweaver in linux
[05:11] <soundconjurer> I have another question... how do you clear Unity's dash home recent list?
[05:11] <magn3ts> oliver__, why
[05:11] <sraue> nice: http://openelec.tv/news/item/207-openelec-1-released
[05:11] <FerchoLP> where does Nautilus take parameters to mount partitions when those partitions are not configured on /etc/fstab?
[05:11] <JusticeZero> Does anyone know a bunch of diagnostic commands I can use to get info on how bad my network is, they don't even need to know how to fix it, I just want to have data for the network admin
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> oliver__: kompozer, bluefish, nvu, seamonkey are some I can think of quickly
[05:12] <oliver__> okey..
[05:12] <oliver__> is has gui?
[05:13] <dsnyders> Is scp faster than samba?
[05:13] <soundconjurer> How does one clear Unity's Dash Home recent list???
[05:13] <brandonc503> so no way to see users and group in ui of latest ubuntu?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> oliver__: yes
[05:14] <tdawg> If anyone has the time, I need some help. upowerd is always using 75-100% of my cpu, been reading around everywhere, I need to downgrade upower I believe? I'm on 11.10 also
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> dsnyders: I'd says samba was faster due to the encryption on the data, with a newish system and fast network the difference will be minor
[05:15] <oliver__> @ActionParsnip ---> i am newbie in webpage specially in php. what do u recommend?
[05:16] <soundconjurer> How does one clear Unity's Dash Home Recent List????
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> oliver__: all I can say is try them. Its not something I do. I just know of the softwares
[05:17] <oliver__> okey thanks.. God Bless u..
[05:18] <beta0x64> anyone have any experience with superoneclick?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[05:20] <soundconjurer> Thank you
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: simple websearch dude :)
[05:21] <soundconjurer> Well you have more experience
[05:21] <soundconjurer> everytime i look for it
[05:21] <soundconjurer> nothing but garbage results
[05:21] <Harry_Slaughter> what the heck happened to xmms??? and is there a good alternative? amarok is nasty lookig :)
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> soundconjurer: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=clear+dash+home+recent+list   is my search
[05:22] <sagarchalise> oliver__, If you want an IDE for just php I would recommed eclipse with PDT or Aptana studio. Specific to php there is gphpedit
[05:23] <Harry_Slaughter> oliver__, be sure to check out komodo also, it's payware, but it's very good
[05:25] <nac-godfather> anyone know I can change the permissions on a file from lrwxrwxrwx to -rwxr-xr-x ?  It's really important.
[05:25] <tdawg> If anyone has the time, I need some help. upowerd is always using 75-100% of my cpu, been reading around everywhere, I need to downgrade upower I believe? I'm on 11.10 also
[05:26] <Harry_Slaughter> chmod 755 ??
[05:26] <nac-godfather> tried that
[05:26] <Harry_Slaughter> chmod 0755 ?
[05:26] <nac-godfather> on both the symlink, directory, and original file
[05:26] <psingh> !notunity
[05:27] <Harry_Slaughter> that first bit always messes with my mind
[05:27] <oliver__> okey i try them all
[05:27] <brandonc503> what happend nac- when you did that?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> nac-godfather: the l in the perms mean it is a link, to change l to - you'd need to copy the llinked file to the location
[05:28] <nac-godfather> ah just noticed that
[05:28] <nac-godfather> do you think that's why firefox is whinin'?
[05:28] <soundconjurer> Wow... Unity doesn't have an option to turn off the activity log.... and the activity log manager DOES NOT exist for the activity journal
[05:29] <soundconjurer> so you cannot blacklist folders.
[05:29] <nac-godfather> I figured it would be cool with symlinks, cause wasn't sure if they need to be associated with their home dirs/like reference other files to execute
[05:30] <ranjit> rst
[05:30] <ranjit> gdfdf
[05:30] <bkerensa> hmm?
[05:31] <soundconjurer> This operating system is such fail
[05:31] <soundconjurer> and it takes forever to delete an item from the activity log
[05:33] <Harry_Slaughter> is amarok really the audio player everyone uses?
[05:33] <psingh> In Unity, does anyone notice the default background purple "shifts" from the login screen to the desktop?  Almost like it's being resized or moved?
[05:34] <dsnyders> !unity
[05:35] <soundconjurer> Man, I wish I could install Windows 7.
[05:35] <soundconjurer> This is getting frustrating
[05:36] <soundconjurer> tedious is the word
[05:36] <arghx> yes. your whining gets tedious quick.
[05:36] <MK`> Is it safe to upgrade to 11.10? When I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 many things broke, will more things break or will it fix those things? (ie. override most settings)
[05:36] <soundconjurer> Sorry if Ubuntu 11.10 isn't even up to par with acceptable
[05:36] <soundconjurer> my whining is a result of this OS's effectiveness to not do anything properly.
[05:37] <wiredfool> MK` future hazy: make sure you backup first
[05:37] <firelord42> the os does everything properly to me, are you sure you are using it right?
[05:37] <soundconjurer> It's unintuitive and unequipped to perform tasks most users want to perform
[05:37] <tdawg> anybody know how to downgrade upower so my cpu isn't working @ 100%  all the time?
[05:37] <arghx> soundconjurer: please stop your ranting and keep it to support. if you want to whine and rant: /msg ubottu OT
[05:37] <MK`> wiredfool: how would you suggest I go about it? A manual backup or a partition backup?
[05:38] <soundconjurer> Ah yes, clearing a history should require adding a PPA, installing a program, then telling it to do something.
[05:38] <soundconjurer> NO I asked for help
[05:38] <soundconjurer> I was handed a link
[05:38] <soundconjurer> that is not helping because that link is tedious to follow
[05:38] <Math^> goodmorning all
[05:38] <arghx> !enter
[05:38] <soundconjurer> Why cannot it be simple?
[05:38] <soundconjurer> gnome 2.X kept things entirely simple
[05:39] <soundconjurer> you guys say this is the future, now help make it one
[05:39] <arghx> tdawg: you install a upower .deb of your choosing. which is unsupported. also: have you filed a bug already or is a bug already filed?
[05:39] <MK`> Can you please complain in another channel? This is to get help for issues, not lament about them.
[05:39] <arghx> !attitude | soundconjurer
[05:39] <psingh> soundconjurer, just curious... why are you using Ubuntu 11.10 as opposed to 10.10 or 11.04 ?
[05:39] <joshua__> Hey guys, I need the command line instruction to add your user to the VirtualBox group.  Anyone know it off-hand?
[05:39] <soundconjurer> Just like microsoft, you blame the users
[05:39] <soundconjurer> ciao
[05:39] <soundconjurer> useless help
[05:40] <tdawg> arghx: I've seen a bunch of bugs already reported about it, where can I get the .deb ?
[05:40] <MK`> Failtroll. Microsoft doesn't interact with its users.  The thing is, the backups are the only way you'd be able to revert back to 11.04, so you'd need to be comfortable taking the backup and restoring. Or waiting a bit for more of the bugs to shake out
[05:41] <firelord42> MK`: by same drive, you mean seperate partitions with a shared home folder or something?
[05:41] <arghx> grrr. addgroup of course
[05:41] <Math^> hey guys, KMS and catalyst isn't working well together, and I've tried uvesafb... but it isn't allowing me to set res @ 1366x1024, best option I got is 1024x768... so what other options I got?
[05:41] <arghx> Math^: radeon
[05:41] <tobes> has anyone had any trouble with flash since the update?
[05:41] <joshua__> that's all?  No vbox, or anything?
[05:41] <Math^> arghx: you mean the module radeon?
[05:41] <tdawg> arghx: 0.9.7-2 ?
[05:41] <arghx> Math^: yes
[05:42] <Math^> arghx: if I do that I get a black screen
[05:42] <MK`> firelord42: No, I installed Ubuntu and then used the Software center to install the Xubuntu desktop package. Since then my desktop randomly does not load themes properly.
[05:42] <Math^> tried that before...
[05:42] <wiredfool> MK` the other option is to try it from a usb key or in a virtual machine
[05:42] <arghx> Math^: lspci -nn |grep VGA
[05:42] <joshua__> Says I need to be root?
[05:42] <Math^> radeon 5600 I got
[05:42] <tobes> no one's had trouble with flash since the update?
[05:43] <wiredfool> tobes: one person on the chan was complaing earlier today
[05:43] <wiredfool> tobes: but, works for me
[05:43] <Math^> arghx: when I start X my screen goes black, not like an empty screen, but the screen goes turns off