[03:50] <rubiks> i have been playing CSS sometimes it run fine for 30 mins and then sometime 2 mins but always ends in hard lock up can do nothing but reset on the box help needed
[03:50] <scunizi> rubiks: I don't know what css is but if you have effects turned on that might be interfearing.
[03:51] <rubiks> counter strike source no effects on
[03:51] <smoking_gun> mm in Screen Resolution i can only choose from 800x600 and 640x480.. how can i change to 1200x1000 ?
[03:51] <Matr|X> how to read and edait some thing into executable file
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> Is there a flag to cherry pick updates for aptitude?
[03:51] <anki_veela> first i need to enable ports
[03:51] <anki_veela> how do i do that
[03:51] <Matr|X> how to read and edait some thing into executable file  ( application/x-executable )
[03:51] <rubiks> be back soon
[03:51] <roccity_> smoking_gun: you can go to a console and try X -configure as root
[03:51] <jrib> Matr|X: you need to be a little more specific as to what you are trying to do...
[03:52] <scunizi> Matr|X: chmod +x <filename>
[03:52] <russia213> GRUB Geome error...help?
[03:52] <smoking_gun> so type su -c X -configure?
[03:52] <roccity_> Im not sure how to do it with x running though
[03:52] <rubiks> yeah back
[03:52] <Matr|X> tis chmod +x * for  make it exc
[03:52] <durt> !web disk
[03:52] <scunizi> yes
[03:52] <rubiks> is there ubuntu gamer irc
[03:52] <tritium> smoking_gun: no, don't do that
[03:53] <tritium> smoking_gun: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, please
[03:53] <roccity_> smoking_gun: add the modes by hand in your xorg fileyou can
[03:53] <scunizi> rubiks: you could try ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux.. there also might be an direct irc channel for css
[03:53] <Matr|X> application/x-executable    <<<
[03:53] <Timslin> how do i join the Fedora room?
[03:53] <Matr|X> this file i want to change into it
[03:53] <jrib> Matr|X: state what you want to do in full sentences please
[03:53] <scunizi> Timslin: /join #<roomname>
[03:53] <Matr|X> ok
[03:53] <roccity_> smoking_gun: oh yeah tritium idea is better
[03:53] <rubiks> ok thanks ill try it thanks
[03:54] <roccity_> tritium: sorry forgot bout that command
[03:54] <tritium> roccity_: no worries!
[03:54] <Carefree[mib]> hey
[03:54] <Carefree[mib]> How do you enable write to HFS+?
[03:55] <SxNDave> rubiks: if you are running it under wine you could try the forums at http://www.winehq.org
[03:55] <Conmiro> i really need help
[03:55] <Conmiro> i really need help pls
[03:55] <tritium> !ask | Conmiro
[03:55] <Conmiro> I have acer aspireone netbook
[03:55] <Conmiro> oh
[03:55] <Conmiro> ok
[03:55] <tritium> all on ONE line, please, Conmiro
[03:56] <Conmiro> I have an acer aspireone netbook and I installed ubuntu and wireless internet does not work on it but wired does but I need wireless to work.
[03:56] <smoking_gun> i didnt set a root password, not that i can remember.. how do i find it out or reset it? unbuntu 8.10 ?
[03:56] <tritium> smoking_gun: ubuntu disables the root account.  Hence the use of sudo
[03:56] <mortici> Conmiro: what kind of wireless card?
[03:56] <Carefree[mib]> I installed hfsplus and I can access the HFS partition, but even under root, there is no write....
[03:57] <Conmiro> Wireless G
[03:57] <smoking_gun> it asks for a password tho.
[03:57] <mortici> Conmiro: make and model...
[03:57] <smoking_gun> and my user pass doesnt work
[03:57] <node357> smoking_gun, use your own password with sudo
[03:57] <tritium> smoking_gun: sudo uses the users's password
[03:57] <Matr|X> i want to make some change for this file pscan2
[03:57] <scunizi> smoking_gun: that would be your normal user password
[03:57] <Carefree[mib]> smoking_gun: you can give root a password
[03:57] <tritium> Carefree[mib]: we don't recommend that
[03:57] <smoking_gun> how?
[03:57] <mortici> Carefree[mib]: what tritium said
[03:57] <Matr|X> how can i read data in this file to change some thing ther pscan2
[03:57] <tritium> !rootsudo | smoking_gun
[03:58] <bdelin88> hey anyone know anything about servers and why the memory on my server seems to decrease as the day goes on? lol... there REALLY isn't much traffic besides myself
[03:58] <mortici> bdelin88: memory leak?
[03:58] <[R]> bdelin88: what do you mean it decreases?
[03:58] <Conmiro> Is someone still helping me?
[03:58] <mortici> bdelin88: have you checked whats using up all the memory?
[03:58] <mortici> Conmiro: make and model of the wireless card...
[03:58] <bdelin88> mortici: well i mean all it is used for is to serve 2-3 webpages
[03:58] <Conmiro> I dont know
[03:58] <scunizi> bdelin88: 'cause it's not "anticipating" and learning your habits with it?
[03:58] <Carefree[mib]> Is there some sort of utility for HFS?
[03:58] <Matr|X> how can i read the data into this file pscan2 all this files i cant change ?
[03:58] <bdelin88> mortici: and it has 1gb or ram
[03:59] <mortici> Conmiro: like say Intel IPW2200 or Netgear Wireless G ver 4
[03:59] <linuxman410> having a problem with compiz-fusion when i enable desktop effects the brown part of open windows disappears
[03:59] <russia213> How do I COMPLETELY get rid of GRUB?
[03:59] <roccity_> Commie_Cary: you can try the compat-wireless drivers
[03:59] <mortici> Conmiro: what is the make and model of the laptop
[03:59] <bdelin88> mortici: it has 446mb tied up in who knows what right now...
[03:59] <tritium> Conmiro: I suggest you try here first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[03:59] <[R]> russia213: and replace it with...
[03:59] <mortici> bdelin88: ok, so whats using up all the memory
[03:59] <Conmiro> i did
[03:59] <scunizi> russia213: what are you going to replace it with?
[03:59] <Conmiro> i dont understand it
[03:59] <jtaji> bdelin88: do you know how to read the output of free properly? what's the second line of numbers in 'free -m' say?
[03:59] <bdelin88> mortici: no idea, is there a command to see the distribution of memory
[04:00] <mortici> Conmiro: im not sure what you mean, can you give me the make and model of the laptop your using?
[04:00] <bdelin88> jtaji: yes i am noticing this memory leak or whatever with "free" and I also have "cacti" installed for graphical monitoring
[04:00] <roccity_> Commie_Cary: did you try the compat-wireless drivers or what tritium said
[04:00] <Conmiro> yes
[04:00] <russia213> [R]: either lilo or I'm giving up on Ubuntu
[04:00] <scunizi> russia213: everything has a boot manager.. even if you can see it like on windows..
[04:00] <tritium> Conmiro: what part don't you understand?
[04:00] <Conmiro> Acer Aspireone Netbook, the only model
[04:00] <[R]> russia213: just install and setup lilo, and that will replace grub
[04:00] <Conmiro> .the whole thing in the box
[04:00] <mortici> bdelin88: you can use top to see the most active list of processes
[04:00] <mortici> bdelin88: 'top'
[04:00] <bdelin88> jtaji: the buffer line says "124/883 free"
[04:00] <mortici> Conmiro: hold on lemme do some searching
[04:01] <Conmiro> mabey i paste it in a terminal?
[04:01] <Conmiro> 0.0 its donig something
[04:01] <jtaji> bdelin88: so you have 124 used, and 883 free
[04:01] <jtaji> sounds about right
[04:01] <bdelin88> jtaji yea... but that's not what top says
[04:01] <mortici> Conmiro: paste what? and what is doing what? lol
[04:01] <bdelin88> jtaji: sry... "yea...but that's not what top says"
[04:01] <Conmiro> mortici: i think i figured it out mabey
[04:01] <jtaji> bdelin88: top doesn't subtract out memory used for buffers and cache
[04:01] <jtaji> !memory | bdelin88
[04:01] <mortici> bdelin88: jtaji is correct
[04:02] <nbuntu> hey
[04:02] <mortici> bdelin88: i forgot about that
[04:02] <bdelin88> mortici: alright then... i guess too much use to windows :)
[04:02] <jtaji> meh that's a dead link
[04:02] <nbuntu> can someone help me with screenlets?
[04:03] <Conmiro> ok
[04:03] <Conmiro> i still need help but i gtg
[04:03] <Conmiro> if you find any information, can you send it to me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:03] <Conmiro> Please and thanks for help!!!
[04:03] <scunizi> Conmiro: doing that is an invitation for spam
[04:04] <Conmiro> man....
[04:04] <Conmiro> can someone help me though
[04:04] <Conmiro> the spam is worth it if someone helps.
[04:04] <bdelin88> !unzip | bdelin88
[04:04] <mortici> Conmiro: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne follow the directions for wireless card
[04:04] <bdelin88> poop
[04:04] <tritium> !enter | Conmiro (for future reference)
[04:04] <spooXe> please visit http://pages.ykt.ru/svalka/
[04:04] <tritium> bdelin88: mature language, please
[04:04] <mortici> Conmiro: relax, took me 30 seconds in a google search to find your answer :)
[04:04] <roccity_> Conmiro: private msg me and I will try and help
[04:04] <scunizi> !wireless | Conmiro
[04:04] <russia213> Where do I download lilo? the "official" wesite is down"
[04:04] <bdelin88> lol p**p?
[04:05] <nbuntu> One particular screenlet (watermarks) wont show up in the Screenlets Dialog window after installng - plz help
[04:05] <Conmiro> ok
[04:05] <Conmiro> im leaving email any additional info
[04:06] <mortici> Wow... that is one confusing, impatient dude...
[04:06] <mortici> russia213: you can just apt-get it
[04:06] <mortici> russia213: sudo apt-get install lilo
[04:07] <linuxman410> how do i shut down x
[04:07] <josesito> is there any way to send a message using xmessage to a logged user on a remote pc via ssh? (the ssh user is root and the logged user there is "user" using gnome)
[04:08] <[R]> josesito: su to the user DISPLAY=:0 xmessage
[04:08] <josesito> linuxman410: sudo poweroff
[04:08] <tritium> linuxman410: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[04:09] <scunizi> josesito: yes.. but for the life of me I can't remember. should be the same as sending a message to another machine on a lan..
[04:10] <josesito> scunizi: and how do you do that?
[04:10] <jeeves_Moss> when is the new ubuntu out?
[04:10] <jeeves_Moss> or can I get the bleeding edge release?
[04:11] <josesito> [R]: i'm getting bash: !": event not found
[04:11] <scunizi> josesito: http://www.htmlforums.com/unix-administration/t-send-message-to-another-terminal-64292.html
[04:11] <redvamp128> jeeves_Moss:  bleeding edge is jaunty-- though it is alpha
[04:12] <Chaorain> I am trying to expand an XFS partition but I can't I can move but not expand or contract help? (it is unmounted and I'm useing a live cd
[04:12] <jeeves_Moss> redvamp128, ok, what's the latest release?
[04:12] <josesito> scunizi: i guess that's using wall, but the user isn't using any terminal
[04:12] <[R]> josesito: what ar eyou running
[04:12] <josesito> [R]: DISPLAY=:0 xmessage "Message"
[04:12] <scunizi> josesito: sorry I'm not well versed in this.. google was my friend there.
[04:12] <jeeves_Moss> redvamp128, I'm just sick of the screen lock ups with compiz, so I was thinking I could force this box up to the next release
[04:12] <josesito> scunizi: :D thanks anyway
[04:12] <redvamp128> jeeves_Moss:  Jaunty Jackalope Alpha 2 | Ubuntu <http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha2>
[04:13] <redvamp128> jeeves_Moss:  it may actually make that condition worse
[04:13] <tritium> redvamp128: alpha 4 is the latest, actually
[04:13] <scunizi> josesito: np.. It's cool to do things like that when there's a need.. might shock the other person as well..
[04:13] <redvamp128> ahh well that is the one I had bookmarked
[04:13] <jeeves_Moss> redvamp128, hummmm, the guys in the #compiz channel were a help, but I'm thinking it's a problem with firefox and the e-mail client locking things up
[04:13] <[R]> josesito: and there is a ! in the message?
[04:14] <josesito> [R]: nope
[04:14] <josesito> oh, no!! yes there is :D
[04:14] <[R]> lol
[04:14] <josesito> [R]: shouldn't it be any ! in the message?
[04:15] <dnyy> I can't seem to get my mic to work correctly.    Any ideas why?
[04:15] <josesito> whoa that worked :D:D:D
[04:15] <josesito> thanks [R], if you know how to make the message bigger it'd be perfect! :D
[04:16] <[R]> josesito: make it bigger?
[04:17] <mortici> josesito: you can make it pop up by the mouse if you wish
[04:17] <mortici> but i don't think there is a way to enlarge the msg
[04:17] <josesito> mortici: yeah the -nearmouse
[04:17] <josesito> [R]: yup
[04:18] <josesito> mortici: i'm reading there something related to geometry to make the window larger
[04:18] <urthmover> What is the best practices if I compile and build a new version of nmap....where should I keep the folder and how do I add it to the PATH?
[04:18] <josesito> that would be cool >:D  so there isn't anything else to read
[04:18] <josesito> :D
[04:18] <cast|lir> urthmover: i suggest you use stow,
[04:19] <cast|lir> urthmover: best practices is to do your screwing around only in /usr/local :)
[04:19] <whitt> good evening.  I just finished with a fresh install of intrepid, and how found that whenever i am playing music in rhythmbox, it pauses the music whenever my wife logs in on her side.
[04:19] <urthmover> cast|lir: so is stow an application?
[04:19] <whitt> whenever i switch back to my side, the music resumes
[04:19] <cast|lir> urthmover: that it is.
[04:19] <cast|lir> urthmover: very useful if you're installing things from source
[04:19] <urthmover> cast|lir: thanks I'll check it out....and consider moving things to /usr/local
[04:20] <scunizi> josesito: did you figure it out?
[04:20] <urthmover> cast|lir: cool  I'll check it out now  thanks for the help
[04:20] <mortici> whitt: What do you mean like switch users?
[04:20] <josesito> scunizi: the window size? or the message?
[04:20] <scunizi> josesito: message
[04:20] <whitt> mortici, yes, user the fast user switching,
[04:20] <josesito> scunizi: yeah
[04:21] <scunizi> josesito: how do you do it.. also is it from one linux machine to another or can it also be done from linux to win?
[04:21] <xxCody> Hello you guys im trying to hook up xbox live through my laptop but when i plug in the ethernet cord it does not pick up the internet connection. Any suggestions?
[04:21] <josesito> scunizi: su user, then DISPLAY=:0 xmessage "Hullo world"
[04:21] <sdlwof> can i set up ubuntu to use two monitors with any video card/drivers? or speical stuff needed?
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> !dualscreen
[04:22] <prince_jammys> josesito: xmessage -geometry 270x380 hello
[04:22] <scunizi> josesito: while connected to the other machine via ssh?
[04:22] <mortici> whitt: it seems its the way it works...
[04:22] <josesito> scunizi: that will only work from linux to linux since it usses xmessage. but i think you can also send winpopup messages to win machines
[04:22] <josesito> scunizi: yup
[04:22] <sdlwof> !dualscreen
[04:22] <josesito> prince_jammys: thanks!! :D
[04:22] <whitt> mortici, i've never had that happen on any other distro
[04:22] <scunizi> josesito: nice.. thanks..
[04:22] <mortici> hmmmm
[04:22] <xxCody> Hello you guys im trying to hook up xbox live through my laptop but when i plug in the ethernet cord it does not pick up the internet connection. Any suggestions?
[04:22] <russia213> If GRUB was installed on my external hard drive, how do I take it off?
[04:23] <mortici> whitt: so you were able to run rhythmbox, and switch users and the music would continue on other distros?
[04:23] <Jordan_U> xxCody: How are you trying to share the connection?
[04:23] <whitt> mortici, exactly
[04:23] <xxCody> I know nothing sorry bro. Just plug and tryed to play. Starting from scratch.
[04:23] <xxCody> The network im on is shared.
[04:23] <xxCody> Thats all i know.,
[04:24] <tritium> xxCody: are you plugging it into a laptop running ubuntu?
[04:24] <mortici> whitt: lemme look into it, gimmie a sec
[04:24] <josesito> scunizi: to windows use samba and do smbclient -M NetBIOS name and you'll be in a chat-like mode where you can actually chat
[04:24] <sdlwof> will nvidia drivers work with intel graphics accelerator 900?
[04:24] <whitt> mortici, thanks
[04:24] <mortici> whitt: was this under gnome or kde that it worked?
[04:24] <tritium> sdlwof: no
[04:24] <Jordan_U> xxCody: Ok, I am guessing that the laptop is connected via wireless to the internet, and you want to share that connection via ethernet to the xbox. Correct? And what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:24] <xxCody> tritium yes
[04:24] <scunizi> josesito: interesting..
[04:24] <josesito> scunizi: oh, that works if the server computer is running winpopup
[04:24] <ramirand_> sdlwof: I've used two monitors with both a single nvidia card (9600GT) and with two old, cheap, crappy ATI cards.
[04:25] <xxCody> Jordan yes and 8.10
[04:25] <whitt> mortici, well i know it worked whenever i installed kubuntu, and opensuse, but in opensuse i used gnome,
[04:25] <sdlwof> this is a laptop
[04:25] <xxCody> Newest one just rescently download
[04:25] <sdlwof> ramirand_, this is a laptop
[04:25] <ramirand_> sdlwof: nvidia drivers will work only with nvidia cards, as far as I know.
[04:25] <mortici> whitt: ok give me a sec
[04:25] <sdlwof> i can't find anything on ubuntu's website for drivers for this graphics media accelerator 900
[04:26] <sdlwof> let alone dual view
[04:26] <scunizi> sdlwof: is it an intel card?
[04:26] <sdlwof> scunizi, yes
[04:26] <Jordan_U> xxCody: Ok, try going to System > Preferences > Networking and set the ethernet connection to "shared" ( and I won't see messages from you highlighted unless you use my full nick, you can hit tab and it will complete it )
[04:26] <xxCody> okay thank you. brb
[04:27] <russia213> If GRUB was installed on my external hard drive, how do I take it off?
[04:27] <sdlwof> i guess it's not possible.
[04:27] <scunizi> sdlwof: search synaptic for intel and you'll see the drivers.. typically they are already installed.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf should have intel listed as the driver..
[04:27] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  i click on edit on the network connection under wireless and there is no 'shared' option
[04:27] <Jordan_U> russia213: Install whatever boot loader ( like windows' ntldr ) you want over it
[04:28] <sdlwof> scunizi, there's no drivers to enable dual monitor support.
[04:28] <ramirand_> sdlwof: I found some info in the forums about using a laptop w/ intel graphics drivers. It's old info, though. I expect there's more out there. None of my laptops have that, tho.
[04:28] <sdlwof> scunizi, nor software to let me do it. it's nvidia/ati only by the looks of it?
[04:28] <tritium> sdlwof: xrandr is used for dual-monitor support
[04:29] <russia213> jordan_U: how would I do that with the external? (btw Ubuntu is installed on it)
[04:29] <scunizi> sdlwof: not sure but ubuntuforums.org should have  a reference for it.. intel is well supported..
[04:29] <SEVILLA> hey will an optical modeling program run in wine?
[04:29] <SEVILLA> hey will an optical modeling program run in wine?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> xxCody: I am not at an Ubuntu machine right now ( on my XO ) but the option should be there, possibly set a different way
[04:29] <WebcamWonder> SEVILLA: check appdb
[04:29] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  im looking hold on.
[04:30] <tritium> !xrandr | sdlwof
[04:30] <Jordan_U> SEVILLA: Depends on the program, check appdb
[04:30] <Jordan_U> !appdb | SEVILLA
[04:30] <sdlwof> ramirand_, what keywords did you use? i used intel monitor dual
[04:30] <zmanning> hey guys i just want to setup ubuntu so that my ps3 can see it as a media server.  any recommendations on software??
[04:30] <tritium> sdlwof: are you seeing what I'm sending you?
[04:30] <tritium> sdlwof: finally: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[04:31] <ramirand_> sdlwof: I was just searching in google, for intel graphics 900.
[04:31] <russia213> jordan_U: How would I do that with the external? (btw Ubuntu is installed on said external)
[04:31] <Out_Cold> zmanning, i've been told that ubuntu can work on a ps3 and then you might be able to sftp
[04:31] <ramirand_> sdlwof: It might not cover dual monitors, though. Check into xrandr.
[04:32] <inx-live> i am so very pissed of at ubuntu
[04:32] <sdlwof> Package xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:32] <sdlwof> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:32] <sdlwof> is only available from another source
[04:32] <sdlwof> However the following packages replace it:
[04:32] <sdlwof>   x11-xserver-utils
[04:32] <FloodBot3> sdlwof: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <sdlwof> E: Package xrandr has no installation candidate
[04:32] <Out_Cold> cry a river inx-live
[04:32] <mortici> whitt: i can't seem to find any info on this
[04:32] <tritium> sdlwof: please read what I sent you
[04:32] <Jordan_U> russia213: Why do you want to remove GRUB? Unless you are using it when you boot from the external drive ( in which case you need it ) it shouldn't change anything
[04:33] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  heres what i got: under wireless tabb theres
[04:33] <ScottG489> Where do I go to set what program runs a a particular file extension?
[04:33] <sdlwof> well, i can't install it, apt-get won't let me.
[04:33] <inx-live> no seriously , i have had nothing but trouble with it for the past week and now the Damn X won't start
[04:33] <whitt> mortici, ok, well its darn annoying I know that.
[04:33] <tritium> sdlwof: did you read above?
[04:33] <zmanning> Out_Cold: ah sorry all i wanted to do we install software that would share my media so that the ps3 picks it up as a media center
[04:33] <sdlwof> yah
[04:33] <Chaorain> How do I resize my XFS partition?
[04:33] <sdlwof> says to install xrandr
[04:33] <sdlwof> won't let me
[04:33] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  ssid:mode:bssid:man addy:mtu..under wireless security its just the type no shared and ipv4 tab is method set to dhcp
[04:34] <sdlwof> saysi  need xrandr to do it. and i can't install it, apt-get pukes with errors.
[04:34] <scunizi> sdlwof: xrandr is already installed
[04:34] <whitt> mortici, thank you very much for researching.  i couldn't find anything either
[04:34] <mortici> whitt: it seems
[04:34] <mortici> whitt: that is suspends the app, and resumes on login....
[04:34] <Mood> if i have 8.10 ubuntu server edition, can i install xfce?
[04:34] <sdlwof> no it's not
[04:35] <inx-live> so screw it , i'm going to puppy linux - i can't figure out why you people like this shity system anyway
[04:35] <Jordan_U> xxCody: You should be looking at the ethernet interface rather than the wireless interface
[04:35] <whitt> mortici, i wonder why it would do that?
[04:35] <Mood> what packages should i install for xfce on top of ubuntu 8.10 server edition?
[04:35] <sdlwof> i'm using the latest ubuntu, says xrandr is not avaible anymore
[04:35] <sdlwof> do i need to compile it?
[04:35] <scunizi> Mood: sure.. you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for sure. but you might also be able to install xfce4 from the repos.
[04:35] <russia213> Can anyone help me make a Lilo boot disk?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> sdlwof: xrandr comes with ubuntu, no need to install anything
[04:35] <tritium> sdlwof: I never told you to install a package named "xrandr".  It's in another package that you already have installed by default.  Please read things more carefully.
[04:35] <xxCody> Jordan_U:  its set as Auth eht0. The xbox hasnt come up.
[04:35] <Mood> scunizi: so sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop xfce4 ?
[04:36] <oliver_> Any difference between Ubuntu and Debian besides release dates?
[04:36] <scunizi> sdlwof: try typing xrandr into a terminal and see what you get
[04:36] <tritium> sdlwof: I can't help you if you won't pay attention, and read more carefully
[04:36] <scunizi> Mood: leave the xfce4 off and do the rest
[04:36] <Jordan_U> oliver_: Ubuntu has different defaults, pulseadio and compiz installed and configured by default for instance
[04:37] <Mood> scunizi: cool. have you tried it btw?
[04:37] <mortici> whitt: im trying to see if theres something you can edit in gconf
[04:37] <sdlwof> spits out resoultion lines
[04:37] <mortici> whitt: how long ago has this worked?
[04:37] <scunizi> Mood: yep.. works fine.. now I'm playing with the terminal and screen.. screen lets you have multiple terminals in one..
[04:37] <Chaorain> How do I resize my XFS partition?
[04:38] <whitt> mortici, i was looking, and i think it has to do with pulse audio.  the last version of ubuntu i used wasn't using pulse audio
[04:38] <cast|lir> scunizi: if screen is too bloated for you, detech is nice
[04:38] <Mood> scunizi: nice. thank you kind sir. kind of like xemacs w/ multiple terminals
[04:38] <scunizi> Mood: probably..
[04:38] <mortici> whitt: might be the problem
[04:38] <cast|lir> Chaorain: if the underlying volume is big enough, iirc it's xfs_grow
[04:38] <mortici> whitt: lemme see something real quick
[04:38] <whitt> mortici, ok
[04:38] <ninjasense> i have an offtopic question for you guys
[04:38] <Mood> scunizi: i heard if you install xfce4 by itself, there are some dependencies that get munged.
[04:39] <Out_Cold> Chaorain, try googling 'xfs resize ubuntu' you'll probably get more luck
[04:39] <Jordan_U> ninjasense: You might try #ubuntu-offtopic then :)
[04:39] <ninjasense> does anyone know a word for someone not easily replaced in the workplace
[04:39] <scunizi> Mood: that one I've never tied by itself
[04:39] <ninjasense> oops ok
[04:39] <mortici> whitt: do you have pulseaudio installed right now?
[04:39] <cast|lir> dtach, sorry :)
[04:39] <mortici> whitt: ima create a new user real quick and switch and see if it does it for me
[04:39] <Mood> scunizi: ok. i'm convinced that xubuntu-desktop's the way to go. thanks again! :-)
[04:39] <whitt> mortici, i am assuming it is installed by default in this new version
[04:40] <mortici> whitt: not necessarily
[04:40] <scunizi> Mood: sure.. you could also do ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop.. but xubuntu is lighter weight and faster
[04:40] <oliver_> How do I use compiz?
[04:40] <mortici> whitt: brb lemme test this
[04:40] <Mood> scunizi: yep- i mostly run a xubuntu myself, but desktop version. i love it.
[04:41] <whitt> mortici, thanks
[04:41] <gavic> hello
[04:41] <x_> where would my wireless driver be located?
[04:41] <scunizi> Mood: when you sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop you actually have the entire desktop version with the exception of the kernel.. that remains the server
[04:41] <mortici> whitt: ok it works fine over here
[04:41] <sdlwof> i typed xrandr -output VGA left-of LVDS and it just flickers the screen.
[04:41] <mortici> whitt: go to System -> Preferences -> Sound
[04:42] <whitt> mortici, ok, there
[04:42] <mortici> whitt: tell me if its set to pulse audio for anything
[04:42] <sdlwof> that makes my 2nd monitor to the left of my vga?
[04:42] <whitt> mortici, autodetect
[04:42] <Mood> scunizi: ah... and all the server stuff, i.e. LAMP, ssh, ftp, etc
[04:42] <unop> sdlwof, the command is incorrect and incomplete - you need to use the right flags there
[04:42] <scunizi> Mood: if that stuff is already installed it remains
[04:43] <mortici> whitt: hmmm
[04:43] <sdlwof> oh, forgot a -    xrandr --output VGA --left-of LVDS
[04:43] <Mood> scunizi: yup. hence my logic of first installing server edition stuff for all the services. and just xubuntu-desktop for the GUI eye candy
[04:43] <sdlwof> same result.
[04:43] <scunizi> Mood: you could actually do it either way.
[04:44] <xxCody1> Jordan_U:  im back tryed reseting the connection.
[04:44] <Mood> scunizi: i'll let ya know if it blows up on me over the next day or two ;-)
[04:44] <mortici> whitt: ok... is everything set to autodetect?
[04:45] <sdlwof> i did a copy and paste to make sure there was no typos.
[04:45] <whitt> mortici, yes, except for sound capture, and that is ALSA
[04:45] <mortici> ok
[04:45] <mortici> set the default mixer to whatever your sound card is (alsa mixer)
[04:45] <russia213> Can I get some help making a Lilo boot disk?
[04:45] <mortici> then close out and launch synaptics
[04:46] <whitt> mortici, ok
[04:46] <mortici> russia213: like a floppy or on the HDD
[04:46] <mortici> whitt: once you got the package manger running search for pulseaudio
[04:46] <russia213> mortici: Floppy, I don't know where exactly to download from
[04:46] <Mood> scunizi: after installing xubuntu-desktop, just restart x session with "xinit", right?
[04:46] <whitt> mortici, done
[04:47] <scunizi> Mood: yep
[04:47] <anima_> I installed SeaMonkey stuff with the add/remove.  When I go to uninstall it with the package manager, it says it can't remove it to use the package manager.  What do I do now to remove it, please?
[04:47] <mortici> whitt: also can you tell me if your in the "audio" group by typing 'groups' into a console without the ' '
[04:47] <Mood> scunizi: cool
[04:47] <mortici> russia213: did you install lilo?
[04:47] <mortici> on the pc?
[04:47] <phantomcircuit> I want to get vlc 0.9.8a is there a package available?
[04:48] <Chaorain> Can you help my with xfs_growfs? I want to expan /media/disk 12417 MB toward the begining of the disk
[04:48] <whitt> mortici, no i am not
[04:48] <xxCody1> What is auth eth0?
[04:48] <jedsen> xxCody1: what?
[04:48] <russia213> mortici: I need help with that
[04:48] <tavo> hi, How do I know if I installed my sound card's controller properly?
[04:48] <jedsen> tavo: you hear sound
[04:48] <xxCody1> under connection for the internet for wired it says auth eth0..?
[04:48] <mortici> russia213: go here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LILO-8.html
[04:49] <xxCody1> in ubuntu of course....
[04:49] <anima_> jedsen:  BWAHAHAHA
[04:49] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says auto eth0 yw
[04:49] <cast|lir> Chaorain: towards the beginning. lol. normally we grow things be moving the end
[04:49] <usser> phantomcircuit, i dont 0.9.8 is available for linux
[04:49] <xxCody1> No yw...
[04:49] <mortici> russia213: to install lilo type the follwoing in a shell: sudo apt-get install lilo
[04:49] <cast|lir> Chaorain: do you use lvm?
[04:49] <urthmover> cast|lir: WOW stow is really easy  thanks for the advice
[04:49] <xxCody1> just auth eth0?
[04:49] <mortici> whitt: ok that might also be the problem
[04:49] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says auto eth0 yw
[04:49] <mortici> whitt: lets add you to the goup
[04:49] <deadbattery> has anyone used litespeed?
[04:49] <whitt> mortici, ok i added myself to that group
[04:49] <xxCody1> jedsen:  theres no yw......
[04:49] <cast|lir> urthmover: it makes removing and adding shit to /usr/local/bin/ etc... trivial :)
[04:49] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says "auto eth0" yw
[04:49] <JPSman> HEELP!  :OD
[04:50] <mortici> whitt: go to System -> Administration -> Users and Group
[04:50] <sdlwof> xrandr --output VGA --left-of LVDS   my crt monitor isn't working. it's like it's still suspended. xrandr is showing no errors
[04:50] <jedsen> JPSman: what's the problem?
[04:50] <mortici> whitt: select Unlock on the bottom
[04:50] <mortici> highlight your name
[04:50] <xxCody1> Whats the yw? but yes it says auth eth0? what is that
[04:50] <jedsen> sdlwof: you've used gnome-monitor-settings?
[04:50] <Chaorain> cast|lir. i don't know what lvm is but tward the end is full. long story
[04:50] <xxCody1> jedsen:
[04:50] <jedsen> xxCody1: it says "auto eth0" yw
[04:50] <sdlwof> jedsen, not sure, i just typed the command in the terminal?
[04:50] <jedsen> xxCody1: read carefully
[04:50] <jedsen> sdlwof: it's in the preferences in gnome
[04:50] <tavo> jedsen: yes, but its a realtek 883 and I downloaded source files or something like that and I did all written on readme file that all I did
[04:50] <xxCody1> OKAY sorry :P auto eth0 what is that?
[04:51] <whitt> mortici, done
[04:51] <jedsen> xxCody1: your ethernet connection
[04:51] <mortici> whitt: hit edit, go to User Privileges, and add your self to use audio devices
[04:51] <jedsen> tavo: do you hear sound?
[04:51] <JPSman> The creative labs X-fi sound driver they released last year crashes Xserver.  I want to install an new sound card (an SB Live! - will it work?)  I cant seem to A.) uninstall the X-Fi driver and B.) Reinitialize the Nvidia Xserver
[04:51] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)
[04:51] <mortici> whitt: in theory you should be able to logout login launche rhythmbox and switch users and it should work fine
[04:51] <sdlwof> you mean screen resoution? i lcick it and it ust says laptop 17" in the corner now...
[04:51] <tavo> jedsen: yes I do :D
[04:51] <anima_> I installed SeaMonkey stuff with the add/remove.  When I go to uninstall it with the package manager, it says it can't remove it to use the package manager.  What do I do now to remove it, please?
[04:51] <jedsen> tavo: then it works! congrats
[04:51] <tavo> jedsen: that's enogh?
[04:51] <whitt> mortici, let me log out and try it
[04:52] <jedsen> tavo: should be
[04:52] <whitt> mortici, brb
[04:52] <sdlwof> oh, nm, window was behidn everything
[04:52] <mortici> whitt: k
[04:52] <cast|lir> Chaorain: dunno if you can grow xfs backwards, how much space is used in the partition, how big is the partition and how much free space do you want to add to it?
[04:52] <xxCody1> jedsen: Okay maybe you can help me. I am connected to the internet wirelessly.. I am in another room and want to connect my xbox to live using the wired cord ethernet cable i think. When i plug it into the computer from the xbox it will not connect
[04:52] <jedsen> xxCody1: is it plugged in?
[04:52] <jedsen> xxCody1: oh
[04:52] <xxCody1> Yes.
[04:52] <sdlwof> jedsen, it's stuck when i tried to turn it on...
[04:53] <sdlwof> app isn't responding
[04:53] <jedsen> xxCody1: i think you need to bridge the connection
[04:53] <jedsen> sdlwof: what app?
[04:53] <xxCody1> How do i do that in ubuntu.
[04:53] <tavo> jesen: thanks a lot :D
[04:53] <jedsen> xxCody1: umm, google it
[04:53] <sdlwof> monitor resolution settings
[04:53] <jedsen> sdlwof: ooh
[04:53] <sdlwof> jedsen, nothing is clickable, can't close the window
[04:53] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)
[04:53] <jedsen> sdlwof: not sure, close it and try again?
[04:54] <geoaxis> hello people i need ot instal libpython (2.5 version ) and there is none in the repoistory, it seems that installing one from source may mess with the system
[04:54] <sdlwof> jedsen, can't
[04:54] <Chaorain> cast|lir, I am getting this reformated so 420.19 gb unused and add 12gb
[04:54] <miller_> xxCody1: did you say you tried to plug your xbox directly into your computer?
[04:54] <russia213> mortici: Ok, now what?
[04:54] <sdlwof> jedsen, need to use pkill or something,
[04:54] <Chaorain> cast|lir, the hard drive is 500gb
[04:55] <jedsen> sdlwof: that's really odd, i'm guessing you have more problems than monitor settings
[04:55] <augustao> jedsen: hi
[04:55] <jedsen> augustao: hi u
[04:55] <ramirand_> xxCody1: So, you have an xbox, connected via ethernet cable to your computer, and your computer also has a WiFi connection to some access point, that can get to the internet?
[04:55] <anima_> I installed SeaMonkey stuff with the add/remove.  When I go to uninstall it with the package manager, it says it can't remove it to use the package manager.    How do i get it back?
[04:56] <JPSman> brb
[04:56] <Brenden> hi
[04:56] <anima_> uhm, is that what comes with this, because if it's not the one I'm trying to use, I have no idea what to do.
[04:57] <russia213> mortici: Could you help me with that?
[04:57] <balzac> I want to configure it, but gnome's ~/.gconf directory doesn't yet exist because nobody has ever used gnome on this machine.
[04:57] <jedsen> oliver__: find them in the menu, then right click and go "add to panel"
[04:57] <miller_> oliver: right click on the panel and click "add to panel"
[04:57] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)? I cant figure out the mount point.
[04:57]  * anima_ apologizes for being an idiot.
[04:57] <mortici> russia213: this should help you change from grub to lilo
[04:57] <jedsen> anima_: it is okay! we all learn
[04:57] <mortici> russia213: http://www.bauer-power.net/2007/08/changing-from-grub-to-lilo-ubuntu-704.html
[04:57] <deadbattery> has anyone used litespeed?
[04:58] <mortici> russia213: once that is done go ahead and follow the instructions for creating the floppy, making sure to append respectively
[04:58] <cast|lir> Chaorain: so with 420gb unused you appear to have plenty of space
[04:58] <UndertakerX2> deadbatter,y no but im considering trying it
[04:58] <deadbattery> just had a question abt htaccess
[04:58] <Chaorain> cast|lir, yah I just hate having a part unused
[04:58] <UndertakerX2> sorry havent actually used it yet do i dont i would be of much help
[04:58] <mortici> russia213: these are guides not exact guides for your system, so you will have to make changes for your specific system (i.e. /dev/sda1 in the guide might actually mean /dev/sdc1 on your system) get it
[04:58] <mikeshollen> I am trying to load a custom upsplash theme but everytime i rebooy all i see is text, any ideas why?
[04:58] <oliver__> I don't mean the application icon, i meant the icon that appears when you have it minimized
[04:59] <oliver__> I forgot whats the name
[04:59] <mortici> russia213: why do you wanna boot from floppy anyway?
[04:59] <jedsen> oliver__: re-launch the application?
[04:59] <jedsen> oliver__: or you could add a new panel
[04:59] <Chaorain> cast|lir, oh nvm I'll format it to fat32 for file transfers between windows
[04:59] <russia213> mortici: I just want to get rid of GRUB and boot with LILO
[05:00] <deadbattery> litespeed seems better
[05:00] <jedsen> oliver__: and then add a "window list" to it
[05:00] <Chaorain> cast|lir, thanks for your help
[05:00] <cast|lir> Chaorain: fat32 is pathetic filesystem, but sure, windows supports it :P
[05:00] <jedsen> cast|lir: why is it pathetic?
[05:00] <mikeshollen> jedsen: has a lot of limitations
[05:01] <cast|lir> jedsen: no permissions, tiny filesize limit
[05:01] <jedsen> mikeshollen: i think that's why they made ntfs
[05:01] <Chaorain> cast|lir, only file system that linux can wright to that windows can read
[05:01] <cast|lir> jedsen: needs defraging
[05:01] <jedsen> cast|lir: you could say the same about ext3
[05:01] <mortici> russia213: then no need to use a floppy....
[05:01] <cast|lir> jedsen: what? no.
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: yes, my friend
[05:02]  * cast|lir looks around
[05:02] <mortici> russia213: just use install lilo, and set it up to be your bootloader
[05:02] <Chaorain> cast|lir, linux writing to ntfs is still experimental and I havn't found how to mount my raid 1 hard drive as 1 drive
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: but there's only offline defrag tools for ext3
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: ext4 is the future, though
[05:02] <russia213> mortici: How do I do that?
[05:02] <cast|lir> Chaorain: there are windows drivers for ext2/3, don't ask me how reliable each project is though :)
[05:02] <DreamReflex> What is the best file system to use on an external that both linux and osx can read?
[05:02] <cast|lir> jedsen: ext4 is a temporary stepping stone, btrfs is the future :)
[05:02] <jedsen> DreamReflex: xfs
[05:02] <Chaorain> cast|lir, OOOOooooo cool
[05:02] <jedsen> cast|lir: ah, right you are
[05:03] <anima_> I found it.
[05:03] <anima_> tnx
[05:03] <cast|lir> jedsen: fat is much more prone to file fragmentation
[05:03] <jedsen> cast|lir: i wouldn't doubt it
[05:04] <UndertakerX2> could some one help me install vmware tools in ubuntu(guest)? I cant figure out the mount point.
[05:04] <jedsen> cast|lir: ntfs is not so great, either, as far as fragmentation
[05:04] <scunizi> cast|lir: temporary maybe for years.. btrfs from what I understand scales much better for larger data centers.. if it's faster great otherwise not really needed on the desktop
[05:04] <Out_Cold> how do I reactivate old LVMs in a new server installation?
[05:04] <jedsen> Out_Cold: vmchange -a y
[05:04] <mortici> russia213: why dont you wanna use Grub, its much easier than Lilo......
[05:04] <cast|lir> scunizi: on whos desktop? ;P
[05:04] <JPSman> How do I remove my creative labs X-Fi beta sound card driver?
[05:04] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: Let me see if I still have an ubuntu VM client set up.
[05:05] <jedsen> Out_Cold: then they appear /dev/mapper and you can mount them
[05:05] <scunizi> cast|lir: who's in a data center?..:)
[05:05] <UndertakerX2> ramiran_, ok thanks
[05:05] <mortici> russia213: http://www.bauer-power.net/2007/08/changing-from-grub-to-lilo-ubuntu-704.html will guide you... to do it but still i see no reason, lilo is slow..
[05:05] <treehaqr> i have a problem with gnome menu editor in ubuntu 8.10. the menu editor does not appear after i clicked on "edit menu". does anyone have any idea?
[05:05] <Out_Cold> vmchange isn't a default package is it?
[05:05] <jedsen> Out_Cold: vgchange
[05:06] <russia213> mortici: I've gotten GRUB errors that either no one know how to fix or no one is willing to explain the solution
[05:06] <jedsen> Out_Cold: and it should be
[05:06] <oliver_> jedsen, Hi I I read what you wrote.  I think i have better wording this time: I had compiz icon on my tray and clicks remove from panel.  Now all my other tray icons, except sound are gone.  When I restart my other applications such as pidgin and xchat, it does not minimize to tray like it should. and when I exit, it disappears, but it still runs because I my nickname is taken.  Now how do I get it to show again?
[05:06] <mortici> russia213: switching bm's is not the solution then :) what are the errors...?
[05:06] <Chaorain> cast|lir, you know if there is an xfs read/write driver for windows XP?
[05:06] <cast|lir> scunizi: i find things like volume management and snapshots very useful on my desktop
[05:06] <samurai> How can i format my usb drive??
[05:06] <cast|lir> Chaorain: i do not. google does, though
[05:07] <Chaorain> cast|lir, thanks
[05:07] <jedsen> oliver_: top or bottom panel?
[05:07] <oliver_> Top
[05:07] <Out_Cold> jedsen, nope... think i need to transfer it via CD because my server is lacking a hardwire atm
[05:07] <russia213> mortici: it used to be error 21 then I tried to just but the windows MBR back so now I have the GRUB geom error
[05:07] <oliver_> jedsen, Top panel.  The tiny icons don't show up anymore.
[05:07] <scunizi> cast|lir: volume management? like lvm?  never tried it but I understand the benefits.. snapshots I never really understood.  can you explain?
[05:07] <jedsen> oliver_: i'm not sure, in that case
[05:08] <mortici> russia213: so you get an error 21 from grub?
[05:08] <cast|lir> jedsen: while ext3 may not be the hottest thing in the block, it's still usuable for all ones needs. fat on the other hand, omfg try ripping a dvd to a fat partition :(
[05:08] <oliver_> sigh this has happened to me more than once, I guess i'll have to reinstall?
[05:08] <jedsen> cast|lir: indeed
[05:08] <russia213> mortici: not anymore at boot I just get "grub      " then it stops
[05:08] <jedsen> Out_Cold: you might try installing it with the package manager?
[05:09] <jedsen> Out_Cold: it might be called something like "vgtools"
[05:09] <JPSman> when ubuntu starts up is says "ctsound, installing X-fi"  how do I uninstall the drivers for the X-fi sound card?
[05:09] <mortici> russia213: pastebin your /boot/menu.lst
[05:09] <mortici> russia213: also uninstall lilo
[05:10] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Looks like I lost it in a hard drive crash a few weeks ago. But if you give me a few minutes, I have the ISO, I can make a new one.
[05:10] <russia213> mortici: help me with both of those please
[05:10] <russia213> mortici: Sorry *is a total n00b*
[05:10] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: sure, apreciate the help!
[05:10] <samurai> can i get help regarding how to format an usb drive in ubuntu??
[05:11] <UndertakerX2> samurai: use gparted
[05:11] <samurai> UndertakerX2: Thanks, i ll try that
[05:11] <mortici> russia213: ok well error 21 mean can not find disk, so that means it couldn't find the hdd...
[05:12] <UndertakerX2> samurai: no problem
[05:12] <mortici> russia213: sudo apt-get remove lilo
[05:12] <cast|lir> scunizi: snapshots...well, in the simplest case. it would let you, say, take a snapshot of /home today. from then on, no matter what files you removed or delted or modified from /home, you could also mount the snapshot and get access to the files as they existed on  feb 06, 2009. so take it to the extreme, you want to do something that mig ht destroy your system, maybe install a dodgy package. you'd take a snapshot prior to installing, install, the if ...
[05:12] <cast|lir> ... you wanted, you could revert back to a prior state.
[05:13] <mortici> russia213: how are you booting into the system then lol
[05:13] <oliver_2> I closed xchat and it is still running, but it doesn't show on the tray icons.  How do I find it again?
[05:13] <russia213> mortici: I haven't I've been using live CD
[05:13] <mortici> russia213: :(
[05:14] <mortici> russia213: well your not makeing any changes then...
[05:14] <cast|lir> then if you wanted you could revert back to the prior state*
[05:14] <mortici> russia213: to the installed OS at least...
[05:14] <scunizi> cast|lir: so what do you use to do a snapshot.. also if /home gets borked do you delete it and restore from the snapshot?
[05:14] <russia213> Then how do I?
[05:14] <russia213> mortici:*
[05:15] <cast|lir> scunizi: LVM handles the snapshot. you could restore it from the snapshot, you could start using the snapshot instead, or you could just copy the filse you wanted fromthe snapshot
[05:15] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Installing now. Mouse is kinda wonky when using VMWare inside VNC.
[05:16] <oliver_2> figured it out guys thanks.
[05:16] <oliver_2> It's called Notification Icons
[05:16] <scunizi> cast|lir: ah.. it's a function of lvm.. didn't know that.. makes sense..
[05:16] <mortici> russia213: its ok tho
[05:16] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_,works good for me in workstation but not so well in vmplayer
[05:16] <mortici> russia213: we will just reinstall
[05:16] <russia213> mortici: Is there hope? ;_;
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: yeah its fine
[05:17] <russia213> mortici: all of ubuntu?
[05:17] <ramirand_> Undertaker2: I'm using VMWare Server.
[05:17] <scunizi> ramirand_: you have to install vmware tools
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: no
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: just gurb
[05:17] <cast|lir> scunizi: the neat thing is, to take a snapshot of /home, takes up no space. [then, when you start modifying whatevr you took snapshot, space equal to the size of the modifications will get used up]
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: ok go ahead and type: sudo grub
[05:17] <mortici> russia213: in a shell
[05:18] <cast|lir> my english is pretty shitty at the moment :(
[05:18] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: ohh i heard server is crud, you should try out workstation
[05:18] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:18] <mortici> russia213: ok, now type: fine /boot/grub/stage1
[05:18] <mortici> err
[05:18] <scunizi> cast|lir: what do you typicallly speak?
[05:18] <mortici> russia213: find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:18] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Server's good enough for what I do, and I like the remote client.
[05:18] <JPSman> how do I uninstall my sound card?
[05:18] <cast|lir> english. sad huh D:
[05:18] <mortici> russia213: it should return one item...
[05:18] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: fair enough :p
[05:18] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Not really great for stuff like video or sound, though.
[05:19] <ImSad> I've got a small problem with my cd/dvd player
[05:19] <ImSad> it won't play.
[05:19] <scunizi> cast|lir: :)  scotch does that too.
[05:19] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: yeah i just plan on running a private test server
[05:19] <ImSad> and I was wondering if anyone could assist me
[05:19] <russia213> mortici: (hd2,0)
[05:19] <mortici> russia213: how many HDD's do you have?
[05:19] <russia213> mortici: 3, 2 internals, 1 external
[05:20] <Out_Cold> where do packages download to when you use the -d flag?
[05:20] <mortici> russia213: which one is the primary hdd?
[05:20] <cast|lir> scunizi: easiest to grasp LVM by playing with it, :)
[05:20] <Flannel> Out_Cold: same place as usual.  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:20] <russia213> mortici: (hd0,0)
[05:20] <mortici> russia213: ok
[05:21] <scunizi> cast|lir: I'll have to get use to it in a vm.. well... maybe one of my spare boxes..
[05:21] <mortici> russia213: we are gonna install grub to the MBR of the primary bootable partition, it will manage all of your os's so if you have windows let me know
[05:21] <mortici> russia213: also are you running a raid on the 2 internal?
[05:21] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Almost done... removing unnecessary pkgs...
[05:21] <russia213> Mortici: I have windows, and I don't think I have RAID
[05:21] <cast|lir> scunizi: another use of snapshots is, if you want to backup /home with tar while using /home, since it might take 30 minutes, some files might have changed a lot in that 30 minutes, so you don't have a tarball of all files at a single point in time, so instead you create a snapshot of /home, mount that, and tarball that - since its not changing you dont have that that issue of tarballing changing files
[05:21] <mortici> ok
[05:22] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: ok
[05:22] <eper3z> guys I need help, I cant get a shared folder from ubuntu setup for the network..the first time i attempted to set it up it worked fine but it doesnt work anymore..any help?
[05:22] <tavo> today afternoon I had problems with File Browser, it just got frozen and all nautilus too, I couldn't mount my windows partitions where all my music is, I'm worried because I thought it was because ntfs file system got "dirt" I ran chkdsk, then started from ubuntu but I couldn't mount the partition yet I killed seahorse agent (I don't remember why) and suddenly I could mount the partition. After the problem I was going to copy a pdf file to my memory stick th
[05:22] <tavo> ere was my swap unit and I formatted it to fat 32 to use it on windows for printing
[05:22] <mortici> russia213: go ahead and type root (hd2,0)
[05:22] <russia213> mortici: done
[05:22] <scunizi> cast|lir: so you can mount the snapshot as something other then /home to do that ?
[05:23] <cast|lir> scunizi: sure. then you have two independant copies of /home
[05:23] <scunizi> cast|lir: if it doesn't take any space how does that work
[05:24] <mortici> russia213: type: setup (hd0)
[05:24] <cast|lir> scunizi: well, itll take up space as you make more and more changes. so if /home was 5GB, you take a snapshit and mount it on /home2. you still only use up 5GB of space. but then write 1GB to /home, and you'll have used up 6GB of disk space
[05:25] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:25] <mortici> russia213: ok type: mkdir /mnt/root
[05:25] <ramirand_> OK, when I went to VM / install vmware tools, it appeared as a CDROM at /dev/scd0 (which Ubuntu mounted on /media/cdrom0)
[05:25] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Sorry, last comment was for you.
[05:26] <mortici> russia213: do you know which /dev/xxx is for your ubuntu install?
[05:26] <mortici> russia213: like /dev/sdc1 or /dev/hdc1?
[05:26] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: ok so where do i go from there, i have it mounted
[05:27] <scunizi> cast|lir: so is it actually saving a text file of what's contained in /home at the time of the snapshot? (thus the lack of an additional large file)
[05:27] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: I have to check the forums, it's been a while.
[05:27] <princecita> Escriba el texto aquí....hola
[05:27] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: it says mount then switch to temp dir
[05:28] <cast|lir> scunizi: it utilizes copy-on-write, uh, might be best to read about it from someone who explains and know better :)
[05:28] <ramirand_> undertakerx2: Usually, i have Ubuntu as the host, not the client. Only did that to try out Intrepid before installing it.
[05:28] <mortici> russia213: sorry, if you still have "grub> " type quit
[05:28] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: i understand
[05:28] <princecita> hi
[05:28] <princecita> i¨m peruvian
[05:29] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: it says switch temp then do the rpm install - rpm -Uhv /mnt/cdrom/VMwareTools-<xxxx>.i386.rpm
[05:29] <scunizi> cast|lir: thanks.. you've actually explained pretty well.  I'll read up on it.. sounds interesting.. and functional
[05:29] <russia213> mortic: it's sdc1 and mkdir /mnt/root returned unrecognized command
[05:29] <scunizi> UndertakerX2: you need the .deb version of tools not .rpm
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[05:30] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: Here's a set of instructions... http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/07/how-to-install-vmware-tools-on-ubuntu-804-guests/
[05:30] <mortici> russia213: yeah type quit if you still have "grub> " on screen
[05:30] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:30] <cast|lir> scunizi: ZFS is pretty interesting :) worth playing around with, you see how much nicer it is to use than what linux offers
[05:30] <mortici> russia213: now type: mkdir /mnt/root && mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/root
[05:31] <russia213> mortici: permission denied
[05:31] <mortici> eek
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[05:32] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: let me try that real quick brb
[05:32] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo mkdir /mnt/root && mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/root
[05:32] <prince_jammys> sudo mount ...
[05:32] <palomer> hello
[05:32] <mortici> prince_jammys: lol damn it!
[05:32] <palomer> my sound is not working
[05:32] <palomer> and im losing hope
[05:32] <palomer> somebody help me!
[05:32] <scunizi> cast|lir: zfs.. is that on osx or someting?  I know it's not the only file system that supports lvm. .ext3 can too. of course you know that.
[05:32] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:33] <mortici> russia213: type: ls /mnt/root
[05:33] <mortici> russia213: does it output anything
[05:33] <prince_jammys> mortici: ha. love that sudo!
[05:33] <mortici> prince_jammys: indeed, i hate it when i forget to add it in chain commands :P
[05:33] <russia213> mortici: "bin   cdrom  etc   initrd.img  lost+found  mnt  proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[05:33] <russia213> boot  dev    home  lib         media       opt  root  srv   tmp  var"
[05:33] <eydaimon> how can I make different characters of other languages, like o with umlauts (swedish) ?
[05:33] <mortici> russia213: ok
[05:34] <mortici> russia213: type: chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash
[05:34] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:35] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: if it's infrequent, you can paste characters from the 'character map', which i think you'll find in the accessories menu
[05:35] <eydaimon> prince_jammys: thanks. and if it's more frequent, I change the keyboard?
[05:35] <ImSad> I'm having trouble with my cd drive.
[05:35] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: you can change your locale
[05:35] <ImSad> It won't play anything other then the ubuntu disk
[05:35] <ImSad> and I was wondering if someone could help me.
[05:35] <ImSad> it's probably something simple.
[05:35] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo update-grub
[05:35] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: if these characters are from the language you'd like to use in ubuntu
[05:36] <ImSad> But I'm not all that smart with linux.
[05:36] <ImSad> Very very new
[05:36] <eydaimon> prince_jammys: I like the way macintosh solved it. alt+u gives the next character an umlaut, etc
[05:36] <prince_jammys> eydaimon: maybe gnome has something like that, but i'm unfamiliar
[05:36] <cast|lir> scunizi: LVM sits below the filesystem. it just presents you block devices that you take snapshots of etc.. you can layer whatever you like on top. ext3. vfat. xfs.
[05:36] <russia213> mortici: done
[05:37] <scunizi> cast|lir: ok.. I can tell I've got reading to do.. you've sent me on a new path of exploration! :-))
[05:37] <mortici> russia213: ok type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:38] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: seems to be installing, thanks alot!
[05:38] <mortici> russia213: fyi "tab key" autocompletes partial text
[05:38] <winnie> hi firefox is not working .. the pages are getting loaded properly but no bookmarks or history is geting saved
[05:38] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: No problem. Good luck.
[05:38] <mortici> russia213: once the file opens, scroll down to the bottom
[05:38] <winnie> and the forward and backward keys are not working too
[05:39] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: one other thing, i have a folder on my desktop, but it wont let me copy it to /var/www , says i dont have permision, i try assigning permision, but it wont copy still, any idea?
[05:39] <russia213> mortici: There's nothing in it O.o
[05:40] <ramirand_> UndertakerX2: What's the permissions and owner/group on /var/www?
[05:40] <scunizi> UndertakerX2: use sudo cp <filename> /var/www
[05:40] <unop> UndertakerX2,  sudo cp -r ~/Desktop/directory /var/www/
[05:40] <mortici> russia213: .... uhm not possible....
[05:41] <mortici> russia213: close the file and type: sudo gedit /boot/grub/m<tab key>
[05:41] <mortici> russia213: it should auto complete it
[05:41] <unop> mortici, russia213 ..  use  gksudo gedit ...  # don't use sudo with GUI programs
[05:41] <UndertakerX2> ramirand_: thanks, ill try that here in a few, tia though!
[05:41] <mortici> unop: live cd enviroment..... doesn't really matter....
[05:42] <cast|lir> scunizi: ZFS is sun microsystems baby, generally considered the most advanced filesystem. if you want to use it grab a copy of opensolaris. its been integrated into freebsd now, osx has ro support last i heard. you can use zfs-fuse to access it in linux. but yeah, the origin of it is solaris. similar features to what linux can do, but much nicer admin interface
[05:42] <scunizi> cast|lir: thanks
[05:42] <russia213> mortici: Ok, I've closed the terminal can we try opening it again?
[05:42] <unop> mortici, no, don't - it's not a good idea anyway, it can lead to annoyances even on a live CD env
[05:43] <winnie> can i get any help on firefox?? my firefox is not working properly? Navigation buttons are disabled... and history and bookmarks are not getting saved...
[05:43] <mortici> unop: noted
[05:43] <wikkedfin> anyone ever have 8.10 lock up and had to do a hard boot?
[05:43] <wikkedfin> reboot*
[05:43] <mortici> russia213: :/... yeah
[05:43] <russia213> mortici: Sorry ;_;
[05:43] <mortici> russia213: open a shell and type: gksudo gedit /mnt/root/boot/grub/m<tab key>
[05:43] <namasamaran> otong
[05:44] <prince_jammys> winnie: i was think perhaps the permissions of your .mozilla directory might be bad, but i've never heard of broken navigation buttons
[05:44] <mortici> russia213: in 15 mins im leaving....
[05:44] <prince_jammys> winnie: "i was thinking" is what i meant
[05:44] <russia213> mortici: ok
[05:44] <russia213> mortici: now what?
[05:44] <mortici> russia213: did it open the file
[05:44] <unop> winnie, does this command return anything?    find ~/.mozilla ! -user "$USER"
[05:44] <mortici> russia213: and is there info in it
[05:45] <russia213> mortici: yes
[05:45] <mortici> russia213: ok scroll to the bottom
[05:45] <russia213> mortici: done
[05:45] <mortici> russia213: the very first line with 'title
[05:45] <mortici> russia213: going down should be root (hd2,0) ... if not change it
[05:46] <hmw> please tell me a method for changing gnomes default distance between icons (not changing zoom)
[05:46] <russia213> mortici: it is
[05:46] <mortici> russia213: next line: kernel ... root=/dev/sdc1 (if not change it and leave the rest of the line alone)
[05:47] <mortici> russia213: next line: initrd (leave it alone)
[05:47] <mortici> russia213: do the same edits if necessary to the recovery mode lines
[05:47] <prince_jammys> hmw: i don't think there's an easy method for that. when i had gnome, i looked for it and could never find it. i wonder if it's possible.
[05:47] <prince_jammys> hmw: the gap is too big, right?
[05:47] <mortici> russia213: check to see if windows is listed
[05:48] <hmw> prince_jammys - i use 66% zoom, the gap is too small ;-)
[05:48] <prince_jammys> hmw: ha. for me, it was too big. that among other things made me say bye-bye to gnome
[05:48] <asus> sup
[05:48] <mortici> russia213: should have: title Microsoft Windows XP (or something like that)
[05:48] <russia213> mortici: it is at the VERY bottom what did you mean recovery lines?
[05:48] <mortici> russia213: don't worry about the recovery lines
[05:49] <russia213> mortici: yes it is there
[05:49] <mortici> russia213: root should be (hd0,0)
[05:49] <hmw> prince_jammys - i'll stick with gnome, i like the simplicity... i cant belive, that there is no config file and i had to recompile... gah... i will continue asking google. thanks.
[05:49] <russia213> mortici: yes
[05:49] <winnie> unop : No it doesnt return nething
[05:49] <prince_jammys> hmw: good luck. i had a really hard time finding the answer to that one.
[05:49] <hmw> prince_jammys - i'll tell you, if i find anything
[05:50] <prince_jammys> hmw: cool
[05:50] <mortici> russia213: ok seems like its good, type exit and reboot
[05:50] <mortici> russia213: wait
[05:51] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo umount /mnt/root
[05:51] <mortici> russia213: then reboot
[05:51] <mortici> russia213: make sure your bios is set to boot from the first HDD...
[05:52] <russia213> mortici: ok, brb to tell you if it works
[05:52] <mortici> k
[05:52] <rj_> does anyone know anything about team speek?
[05:52] <mortici> rj_: it sucks, use mumble :)
[05:53] <rj_> its my stations meeting place
[05:54] <felixsulla> A tutorial site reads "use the /etc/init.d/rc.local script to execute these commands on startup"
[05:54] <Flannel> rj_: there's a lot of information regarding teamspeak on the forums, ubuntuforums.org
[05:54] <mortici> rj_: :( that sucks... all i know is you can't have any other audio playing before running team speak
[05:54] <felixsulla> It was a sudo commando from terminal, where in rc.local do I put it?
[05:54] <Quintok> odd question, is there a way to filter ls' output by mime type? similar to grep for file name
[05:54] <mortici> rj_: and once its running no other audio will play
[05:55] <jtaji> felixsulla: in ubuntu it's /etc/rc.local
[05:55] <rj_> i had it running
[05:55] <rj_> then
[05:55] <rj_> iclosed it started winamp
[05:55] <rj_> and lost sudio for t/s
[05:56] <mortici> rj_: yep :)
[05:56] <felixsulla> jtaji where in rc.local do I add my sudo command?
[05:56] <mortici> rj_: it uses OSS, which sucks, team speak 3 is upposed to use ALSA
[05:56] <felixsulla> And wont it ask for a password every time if i dont login as superuser?
[05:56] <mortici> rj_: OSS doesn't like to share /dev's :P
[05:56] <jtaji> felixsulla: firstly, you don't need to use sudo in rc.local, it is run as root.... but put the command anywhere before the exit 0
[05:56] <rj_> ic
[05:57] <mortici> rj_: basically team speak takes control of your sound device, exclusively
[05:57] <mortici> rj_: i think there is a work around
[05:57] <ramirand_> Quintok: you mean you want to find only files that are of a particular type?
[05:57] <Quintok> yea, in specified a folder
[05:57] <felixsulla> What folder does rc.local "start" in?
[05:57] <ramirand_> Quintok: If you run "file" on one of them, does it know the type?
[05:57] <prince_jammys> ramirand_: you can do it by filename extension, but not by file type
[05:58] <felixsulla> If i'm going to add the command "mount -t vboxsf _VirtualBoxShared ubushare" .. ubushare may not be just right above where rc.local is run?
[05:58] <Quintok> ramirand_, yes
[05:58] <prince_jammys> Quintok:  sorry, that message was for you
[05:58] <compguy1101> trying to find a fix for my shutdown and sleep problem with ubuntu remix on my hp mini, tried a lot of fixes from forums but none seem to fix it, the laptop wont shutdown, and 75% of the time, when i wake it from sleep, its just a black screen... any thoughts?
[05:58] <prince_jammys> ramirand_: wrong nick, sorry
[05:58] <Quintok> prince_jammys: yep, thanks =)
[05:58] <jtaji> felixsulla: either use absolute paths in that command, or do a cd command in rc.local first
[05:58] <russia213> mortici: error 21
[05:59] <mortici> rj_: try TeamSpeak aoss
[05:59] <felixsulla> Oh just run it from /
[05:59] <prince_jammys> Quintok: is filename good enough?
[05:59] <mortici> russia213: that means it can't find the hard drive
[05:59] <felixsulla> use an absolute starting from / for the ubushare
[05:59] <mortici> something isn't setup right in your bios most likely as the primary boot device
[05:59] <russia213> mortici: what should I do?
[05:59] <jtaji> felixsulla: yes
[05:59] <felixsulla> ty sir :)
[05:59] <Quintok> prince_jammys: no unfortunately, they don't have filetypes appended to them
[05:59] <mortici> russia213: gonna have to change your bios settings untill you find the primary boot device
[06:00] <prince_jammys> Quintok: that sucks. you'll have to use the 'file' command, which is slow (and not 100% reliable)
[06:00] <scunizi> russia213: mortici may I interject.. if they are both sata drives make sure that the designated boot drive is plugged into the lower number sata port..
[06:00] <Quintok> I found it looking at file -h.  "file -i * | grep" looks like it should work
[06:00] <ramirand_> Quintok: If file tells you what they are, you could do something like "file * | grep filetype | cut -d: -f1
[06:00] <Josshill[OA]> Hey can anyone help me? Im a new Linux user
[06:00] <prince_jammys> Quintok: yeah
[06:00] <Quintok> lol, thanks ramirand_
[06:00] <compguy1101> anyone?
[06:00] <ImSad> Josshill, I would also love some assistance.
[06:00] <russia213> They aren't satas
[06:01] <ImSad> I'm a freakish noob and can't do anything.
[06:01] <russia213> mortici: how do I make my BIOD USB boot compatible
[06:01] <quibbler> !ask
[06:01] <russia213> Bios*
[06:01] <mortici> russia213: grub is installed on the primary HDD (hd0) MBR......
[06:02] <cahaya-05> oooo
[06:02] <russia213> mortici: so what do I do then?
[06:02] <Josshill[OA]> Anyone around?
[06:03] <compguy1101> trying to find a fix for my shutdown and sleep problem with ubuntu remix on my hp mini, tried a lot of fixes from forums but none seem to fix it, the laptop wont shutdown, and 75% of the time, when i wake it from sleep, its just a black screen... any thoughts?
[06:03] <jtaji> Josshill[OA]: lots of people, just ask a question
[06:03] <Newfie_rich> hey all, just trying to find where my internet files go from firefox
[06:04] <jtaji> compguy1101: wish I had one of those to try and help :p
[06:04] <lockd> by default they're all dumped in desktop IIRC
[06:04] <atom^x> Josshill[OA], ask your ?
[06:04] <compguy1101> jtaji, i guess its a common problem for ubuntu...
[06:04] <scunizi> Newfie_rich: downloads? or temp files.. anything other than temp is probably in ~/.mozilla
[06:04] <jtaji> compguy1101: suspend is tough, many laptops are poorly documented, the ones that are documented well are supported fully
[06:05]  * porter1 is frustrated the are no easy, simple to use math editors for ubuntu.
[06:05] <compguy1101> Josshill[OA], there is 1300 people here, i think there is someone around
[06:05] <lockd> porter1: like, math typesetting?
[06:05] <porter1> Yeah
[06:05] <porter1> Amaya acts insane in ubuntu
[06:05] <Newfie_rich> Scunizi: temp interenet files
[06:05] <compguy1101> jtaji, hmm how about shurdown
[06:05] <lockd> if you need math, you want LaTeX. if you want easy, you want OpenOffice
[06:06] <compguy1101> *shutdown
[06:06] <ImSad> I need help: for some reason my computer won't play cds or dvds. It shows that there is something in there, but when I go to run it, it says that there's nothing there.
[06:06] <tritium> porter1: LaTeX
[06:06] <Riov> hey
[06:06] <jtaji> compguy1101: that usually works :p
[06:06] <porter1> What exactly is the name of the program for math in OO
[06:06] <balzac> how do I launch gnome from a shell?
[06:06] <scunizi> Newfie_rich: ~/.mozilla
[06:06] <cast|lir> latex is the go for any document you want to look nice without any effort, too :)
[06:06] <jtaji> balzac: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:06] <compguy1101> jtaji, well mine just hangs and doesent turn off... hm
[06:06] <mortici> russia213: im not sure what to tell you, you can try going back into the live cd
[06:06] <Riov> What prog do i use to lock/set ubuntu screen blank?
[06:07] <russia213> mortici: 0,0 is the primary drive it's the C:\ drive
[06:07] <tritium> porter1: nothing produces more professional mathematics typesetting than LaTeX, which is why so many academic journals and university dissertation templates use it
[06:07] <mortici> russia213: making the root dir again mounting it
[06:07] <russia213> mortici: I'm in the live cd
[06:07] <balzac> command not found
[06:07] <mortici> russia213: chroot over again
[06:07] <russia213> mortici: Windows won't boot
[06:07] <balzac> even though I just installed gnome-desktop-environment
[06:07] <mortici> russia213: ofcourse the bootloader isn't working...
[06:07] <Riov> Im running ubuntu 8.1 live cd compiling in gentoo chroot and I want to turn off screen so i can sleep in dark room
[06:07] <porter1> Yep, I have tried a number of LaTeX based programs
[06:07] <felixsulla> What is the opposite of :set ro in vim?
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> Oo shit.
[06:07] <Roken> Where do I install icons? I'm using xfce
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> That was wierd
[06:07] <Riov> but theres no option to lock screen
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> All the sudden everyone started talking
[06:07] <Josshill[OA]> =/
[06:07] <FloodBot3> Josshill[OA]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <tritium> language, please, Josshill[OA]
[06:07] <cast|lir> Roken: xset s 10  # 10 seconds
[06:08] <mortici> russia213: then try: sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 (i think hda1, might be sda1)
[06:08] <whatev> felipe_ :set nowhatever
[06:08] <whatev> just put a no in front of it
[06:08] <Roken> Sorry Cast, but that made no sense
[06:08] <lockd> porter1: I believe it's OpenOffice Math
[06:08] <mortici> but i have to go, got work in 5 hours
[06:08] <mortici> need sleep
[06:08] <russia213> mortici: not found
[06:09] <Josshill[OA]> Can someone query me?
[06:09] <mortici> russia213: whats not found?
[06:09] <ari_stre1s> good night
[06:09] <tritium> porter1: good, then what's the issue?
[06:09] <Josshill[OA]> I need help my Sound is not working when I watch a video
[06:09] <cast|lir> oh, i ment Riov. sorry Roken
[06:09] <Roken> lol, okay
[06:09] <lockd> porter1: err, File -> New -> Formula
[06:09] <russia213> mortici: "Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. /dev/hda1: Not found or not a block device."
[06:09] <porter1> Yeah, for some reason I have it installed, but it isn't included in the menu items, so I forgot
[06:10] <cast|lir> Roken: itll set my screen to turn of after 10 seconds of activity, fwiw :)
[06:10] <mortici> russia213: sda1 then?
[06:10] <mortici> russia213: make sure you are chroot'ed over
[06:10] <russia213> mortici: chroot'd?
[06:10] <Josshill[OA]> Guys can you help me? When I play a video it wont play and when it does there is no sound?
[06:11] <mortici> russia213: yeah chroot, please don't tell me your not remembering this stuff...
[06:11] <Riov> cast|lir: did that cmd just set the screensaver
[06:11] <felixsulla> In Nautaulus if you're not root, how can you change permissions on a file?
[06:11] <Roken> lol, okay cast, but I need help with icons >.>
[06:11] <mortici> russia213: ill type this out and im going, i don't have time
[06:11] <russia213> mortici: Sorry ;_;
[06:11] <Riov> cast|lir: Or will it actually disable monitor?
[06:11] <cast|lir> Riov: well, least on my laptop, the display turns off
[06:11] <tritium> porter1: OO math can't complete with LaTeX.  If you want professional mathematics typsetting, you really don't want OO math.
[06:11] <b3z3rk3r> felixsulla, you will need to be root
[06:11] <Josshill[OA]> I feel ignored :(
[06:12] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, what player are you using?
[06:12] <mortici> russia213: type: sudo mkdir /mnt/root && sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/root && sudo chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash && sudo grub-install /dev/hda1 (if its and IDE HDD and sda1 if its SATA)
[06:12] <Josshill> I was on youtube and some other websites
[06:12] <jtaji> felixsulla: you should learn to do it in the terminal, but you can launch nautilus as root with 'gksudo nautilus'
[06:12] <cast|lir> Josshill: is it the codecs
[06:12] <mortici> russia213: reboot
[06:12] <mortici> russia213: afterwards
[06:13] <Riov> cast|lir: If i set laptop close action to blank screen, will my chrooted gentoo environment continue compiling?
[06:13] <Josshill> Well, I went to go try and add java updates ect.
[06:13] <b3z3rk3r> felixsulla, "sudo nautilus" will also work
[06:13] <cast|lir> Josshill: oh, or is this 'a video' in general rather than a specific one
[06:13] <mortici> russia213: if it still doesn't work, then your gonna need to find someone else to help you, or use Google to help solve your problem
[06:13] <Riov> cast|lir: --even after closing laptop
[06:13] <prince_jammys> felixsulla: use gksudo instead of sudo, for graphical apps like nautilus
[06:13] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, so its flash, not "video" in general?
[06:13] <jtaji> b3z3rk3r: felixsulla: no, do not use sudo with gui aps
[06:13] <cast|lir> Riov: if its only blanking the screen, sure. if its going into suspend then thats a bit diff, try it
[06:13] <Josshill> Yes its a flash sorry
[06:14] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, ok, and you are using FF3.0?
[06:14] <Riov> cast|lir: heh.. its been a while since i could sit down with unix
[06:14] <mortici> russia213: i have to go, good luck
[06:14] <b3z3rk3r> jtaji, how come?
[06:14]  * mortici waves good night
[06:14] <b3z3rk3r> jtaji, whats the dif?
[06:14] <Josshill> Im sorry Im a new user I dont know what half this means =/
[06:14] <jtaji> !gksu | b3z3rk3r
[06:14] <hmw> prince_jammys - i give up for today, google is no real help on this subject. guess it has to be changed in the sources.
[06:14] <russia213> mortici: When will you be back?
[06:15] <jtaji> b3z3rk3r: it will screw up permissions on your user's config files
[06:15] <prince_jammys> hmw: told ya ;)
[06:15] <tritium> !away | mortici|sleep
[06:15] <Riov> cast|lir: linux* --but I just compiled gentoo from scratch today and Ieep.'m emerging fluxbox and components through terminal. I'll do that while I sl
[06:15] <mortici|sleep> tritium: sorry used to other chans
[06:15] <b3z3rk3r> jtaji, ah.. k. thx. il remember that :)
[06:15] <prince_jammys> hmw: frustrating, isn't it?
[06:15] <eydaimon> hm, how do I get libflashplayer.so for x64? flashplugin-nonfree doesn't have it
[06:15] <tritium> mortici|sleep: no problem
[06:15] <cast|lir> Riov: unix is the past!
[06:15] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, in that case welcome :)
[06:15] <Riov> cast|lir: linux ;)
[06:15] <mortici> russia213: ill be back in probably 3 to 4 days its the weekend
[06:15] <patrick> +i
[06:15] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill,  FF = Firefox
[06:15] <hmw> prince_jammys - i didnt even find a clue, where it is in the sources. nobody seems to want a different distance !?
[06:15] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r Thanks
[06:15] <prince_jammys> hmw: you'd think it would be an obvious setting ... but no.
 Alright, Well lets see
[06:16] <mortici> russia213: good luck, google is a great tool, should learn how to use it
 I keep getting errors when I attempt to get my flash working..
[06:16] <mortici> russia213: good luck and good night
[06:16] <tritium> good night, mortici
[06:16] <mortici> tritium: good night
[06:16]  * cast|lir goes to study
[06:17] <eydaimon> is there no 64-bit adobe flashplayer?
[06:17] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, you will probably need to download it manually. When u try to play something it should prompt you to add it yes?
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r No It did not prompt me to add anything
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r I could view the videos they just wouldnt play
[06:17] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, whats the error you get?
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r They would load ect.
[06:17] <hmw> prince_jammys - i wonder, what the guy was thinking when setting these values... lol
[06:17] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r Let me get it
[06:17] <jtaji> eydaimon: there is an alpha release http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[06:17] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, k
[06:17] <rubiks> i need some help with counter strike on ubuntu some one point me in the right direction
[06:18] <eydaimon> jtaji: thanks
[06:18] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:18] <Josshill> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:18] <prince_jammys> hmw: for me it was the other way around. it really got on my nerves that there was such a huge gap between the icons.
[06:18] <tritium> Josshill: do you have synaptic open?
[06:19] <hmw> prince_jammys - thats why i set 66% size, its a little better this way. but only with short file names
[06:19] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, sounds like u have a package manager working
[06:19] <Josshill> tritium No Idea what that is :) new user
[06:19] <tritium> Josshill: graphical package manager
[06:19] <prince_jammys> hmw: oh, you're talking about the vertical gap when you list files
[06:19] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r I did manage to download one I believe
[06:19] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> I have a question, I have a ubuntu server when i cd into /home/user it lists nothing is this normal?
[06:19] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, anything updating currently?
[06:19] <hmw> prince_jammys - icon view, nautilus drawing the desktop
[06:19] <jtaji> Josshill: or update manager, or add/remove programs... ?
[06:19] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r No I dont think so
[06:20] <rubiks> any one help me with online games
[06:20] <tritium> Josshill: have you installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, have you tried rebooting?
[06:20] <UltraPutz> is there a way to roll-back the last package operations done in apt?
[06:20] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r no
[06:20] <prince_jammys> hmw: ah. i was thinking of something else. but yeah, this sort of thing is a common complaint against gnome. some settings are difficult/impossible to change.
 If your talking about the downloads from the Guide then yes
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, ok, the error sounds like u have a package manager working in the background
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill,  might not be freeing things up again
[06:20] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r So how do I fix this?
[06:20] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, so try reboot and go for it again
[06:21] <Josshill> Alright
[06:21] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, have you tried to remove the package?
[06:21] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, just reboot and try again
[06:21] <tritium> Josshill: I'm talking about the flash package that is in the ubuntu repositories, not a download off of adobe.com
[06:21] <Josshill> b3z3rk3r Ill brb then
[06:21] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill, ok
[06:21] <UltraPutz> faa -- the problem is, I cannot get the name of it straight to pull it form apt, so i was hoping there was a way to view recent changes...
[06:21] <hmw> prince_jammys - i also would like to change more distance/size settings, like the compact view's size for one entry... its too short for my wishes. guess i will continue baking my own linux from scratch and make everything perfect. i will upload my pathces in 100 years, when i learned all the stuff. *g*
[06:21] <skate2> how can i portscan myself to see all my ports are closed like they're supposed to be by default
[06:22] <russia213> Ok, I need grub help, I've reinstalled GRUB on the primary HDD and I get error 21
[06:22] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, is this desktop?
[06:22] <UltraPutz> faa - yes
[06:22] <prince_jammys> hmw: ha. i switched to kde, then to fluxbox. now i don't have icons anymore. :)
[06:22] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, what app?
[06:22] <prince_jammys> hmw: that'll teach em
[06:22] <UltraPutz> drivers for the ATI hardware built into the dell inspiron 8600
[06:23] <UltraPutz> it borked x
[06:23] <LFAY> haello
[06:23] <LFAY> halo
[06:23] <LFAY> help please
[06:23] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, 8.10 i take it?
[06:23] <UltraPutz> yes sir
[06:23] <prince_jammys> LFAY: write a detailed question and someone might help
[06:24] <tritium> UltraPutz: did you enable the restricted drivers?
[06:24] <hmw> skate2 i had different results when portscanning my linux router - if you try to scan the external IF from BEHIND the firewall, you will get different results as if you were scanning from outside - looks like some optimizations in the forwarding. get some free port scanners (easy to google) and best let someone scan you from outside.
[06:24] <UltraPutz> tritium -- it does not appear as a restricted driver, it looked like an alternate x config...
[06:24] <skate2> hmw: makes sense thanks
[06:24] <tritium> UltraPutz: that doesn't sound right. What did you do?
[06:25] <UltraPutz> the most helpful thing would be -- is there a package installation log for apt ?
[06:25] <LFAY> fn on my keyboard not function, help please
[06:25] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, i don't think the OS has a rollback system but most likely google how you installed it and remove it that way?
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:25] <UltraPutz> faa -- no graphics, no browser :-)
[06:25] <lyk3n> hello
[06:25] <mindrape> hell wello
[06:25] <ramirand_> UltraPutz: /var/log/apt/term.log
[06:25] <UltraPutz> i'm on via epic
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> i upgraded a package from synaptic... how can i revert back
[06:25] <UltraPutz> like i said: x borked.
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[06:25] <UltraPutz> rami - danke
[06:25] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> UltraPutz, oo reinstall time :p
[06:26] <lyk3n> can anyone help me read a backtrack from a broken vlc media player
[06:26] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> I have a question, I have a ubuntu server when i cd into /home/user it lists nothing is this normal?
[06:26] <UltraPutz> fglrx
[06:26] <UltraPutz> that was the problem
[06:26] <skate2> hmw by IF do you mean interface?
[06:26] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: yes
[06:26] <UltraPutz> faa -- yes
[06:26] <hmw> skate2 yes
[06:26] <UltraPutz> try ls -al
[06:26] <tritium> UltraPutz: hence my question.  That *is* the restricted driver.
[06:26] <UltraPutz> might have some fun fotfiles.
[06:27] <russia213> Ok, I need grub help, I've reinstalled GRUB on the primary HDD and I get error 21, help?
[06:27] <fitri-ariyanto> alooow
[06:27] <UltraPutz> tritium -- so just removing it should bring things back to normal?
[06:27] <tritium> UltraPutz: which is also why I asked you what you did to enable the new driver.
[06:27] <tritium> UltraPutz: removing it will revert you to the "ati" (open-source) driver, yes.
[06:27] <fitri-ariyanto> I get error in fn function on my keyboard,
[06:27] <lyk3n> Does anyone know how to fix a broken vlc
[06:27] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: broken how?
[06:27] <fitri-ariyanto> how can I repair it
[06:27] <Yossarian> lo peeps
[06:28] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: when I open vlc it aborts itself
[06:28] <fitri-ariyanto> my OS ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[06:28] <Yossarian> i'm running ubuntu x64(compiz & nvidia driver) and i'm trying to run Krusader. it runs but whenever i start it the titlebar and the gnome panel disappear(reappear when i close Krusder)
[06:28] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: try running vlc from the command line and see what error it spits out
[06:28] <UltraPutz> here goes nothin'
[06:29] <gatewarstrek> when you open it from the terminal, does it give you an error message lyk3n ?
[06:29] <lyk3n> billybigrigger: It gives me three lines in the backtrace, but its too long to send here
[06:29] <obf213> cant connect to my afs folder anymore with nautilus for like amonth now...
[06:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:29] <obf213> just always times out...
[06:29] <silv3r_m00n> how can i revert upgrades done from synaptic ?
[06:29] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> Prince_jammys, do i have to mkdir? is there a normal place for data to  be stored? other than a home dir?
[06:29] <lyk3n> gatewarstreK: yes, it gives me three lines in a backtrack
[06:30] <Josshill[OA]> Alright
[06:30] <quibbler> !pastebin | gatewarstrek
[06:30] <russia213> Ok, I need grub help, I've reinstalled GRUB on the primary HDD and I get error 21, help?
[06:30] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: what data are you expecting?  your home dir should have a few dotfiles there, visible with ls -a
[06:30] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: they look like lib files and they have the hexcode at the end. I don't know how to read it
[06:30] <gatewarstrek> quibbler: very funny
[06:30] <Josshill[OA]> b3z3rk3r
[06:31] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> prince_jammys, Just alot of media files music/videos
[06:31] <b3z3rk3r> Josshill[OA], yeah, im here
[06:31] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: can you pastebin the output?
[06:31] <quibbler> gatewarstrek: sorry that was for lyk3n
[06:31] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: are you asking where is a good place to put those files?
[06:31] <gatewarstrek> quibbler: understood ;)
[06:31] <Josshill[OA]> b3z3rk3r Alright Im going to give it a try
[06:31] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: put the output in pastebin
[06:31] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: what is the url
[06:32] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: pastebin.ca
[06:32] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> prince_jammys, pretty much, on the desktop version the /home has alot of folders for places was figuring server would be setup the same
[06:32] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: pastebin.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <UltraPutz> removing that did not fix it.
[06:32] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: pick one :P
[06:32] <silv3r_m00n> how can i undo a package upgrade ?
[06:32] <hmw> russia213 - thats just a guess - maybe your hard drives got mixed up - they might not be hd(0,x) but hd(1,x) - you can change the boot params manually, when grub wants to boot
[06:32] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: make them yourself inside your home. apparently, the server version doesn't create them (and older desktop versions didn't, either)
[06:32] <tritium> silv3r_m00n: you don't.  Why?
[06:33] <obf213> was there some updage that broke nautilus and ssh tunneling?
[06:33] <faa|whiZ|2Xtreme> prince_jammys, ok thanks for the help
[06:33] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: there is a package whose previous version was better
[06:33] <Yossarian> bump
[06:33] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: i want it back
[06:33] <russia213> hmw: Could you help me with that?
[06:33] <obf213> i haven't been able to do it for months after using it for years
[06:33] <prince_jammys> faa|whiZ|2Xtreme: no problem
[06:33] <tritium> silv3r_m00n: which are you referring to, and why?
[06:34] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: hplip  in the previous version I had more control of the dpi settings... after upgrade there are fewer options
[06:34] <lyk3n> billybigrigger:http://pastebin.ca/1328780
[06:34] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: so i want the previous version of hplip
[06:34] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek:http://pastebin.ca/1328780
[06:34] <hmw> russia213 - uh got no grub here - its simple: you let it boot to grub, then read the text for finding out, how to temporarily boot woth other options ... something like "edit" - you will see the entry with hd(x,y) and can change it
[06:34] <lyk3n> quibbler: thanks for the paste quib
[06:35] <Roken> Whats a good lightweight xfce player?
[06:35] <hmw> russia213 - this is only temporary - it will use the different setting only this one time, not changing any file on the hd, so its safe. worst thing that can happen is a crash
[06:35] <silv3r_m00n> tritium: this force version gives me 2 options
[06:35] <Roken> lightweight xfce mp3 player*
[06:35] <prince_jammys> Roken: audacious (it's like xmms)
[06:36] <russia213> hmw: How do I do that?
[06:36] <Roken> Oh, Prince, me likie the screenies
[06:36] <Roken> Thanks
[06:36] <prince_jammys> Roken: it's not expressly for xfce, but that's ok.
[06:36] <hmw> russia213 when grub asks you, what to boot (ubuntu normal, ubuntu safe mode, other OS), you just press a key to tweak the boot options
[06:37] <Yossarian> bump :( i'd really like to be able to use Krusader
[06:37] <russia213> hmw: I never get the far it just says error 21 and I can't choose where to boot
[06:37] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: I am reading up on the error
[06:37] <hmw> russia213 i see ... let me think
[06:37] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: hmm well i'd try to update to the current vlc version
[06:38] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: add multiverse to your apt sources.list, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:38] <lyk3n> billybigrigger: will sudo apt-get update work? I have already reinstalled the app.
[06:38] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: your running 0.8.6 newest vlc version in 0.9
[06:38] <billybigrigger> lyk3n: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[06:39] <prince_jammys> yes, but that's not the version in the repos
[06:39] <rj_> now the q becomes how do i get t/s back ?
[06:39] <quibbler> billybigrigger: 0.8.6 is the last in ,ultiverse
[06:40] <lyk3n> billybigrigger:I don't know.(downloading). I just installed via synaptic. I tried and failed at compiling the source code/ I keep getting errors
[06:40] <prince_jammys> lyk3n: try reinstalling it through synaptic
[06:40] <billybigrigger> Version: 0.9.4-1ubuntu3
[06:40] <hmw> russia213 - while i am searching, you could start reading the grub manual. if you read all the stuff, you should be able to figure it out yourself, but its a big document: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/
[06:40] <billybigrigger> thats the latest version
[06:41] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: I found a reference saying that deleting your vlc config might work
[06:41] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: ok, I'll look for it.
[06:42] <lyk3n> prince_jammys: tried and failed
[06:42] <prince_jammys> lyk3n: failed how?
[06:42] <prince_jammys> lyk3n: same error, or couldn't reinstall?
[06:42] <lyk3n> prince_jammys: it still doesn't work-same error
[06:42] <prince_jammys> ok
[06:42] <lyk3n> billybigrigger: It installed something new, but it still aborts itself
[06:43] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: try getting rid of ~/.config/vlc and ~/.vlc/
[06:44] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: I'm having trouble finding it. is it /etc/.vlc  or ...
[06:44] <hmw> russia213 - error 21 means, the hard drive wasnt found. looks like a bad entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst - pastebin this file please
[06:45] <gatewarstrek> no, its in your home directory
[06:45] <gatewarstrek> ~/ means /home/username/
[06:45] <con-man> #nerdpickuplines Hey baby, how about we sudo -rm yourpants ?
[06:45] <Yossarian> bump :\
[06:46] <russia213> hmw: Could you help me open the menu.lst file?
[06:46] <hmw> russia213 - do you have a livecd or any other means to access the hard drive?
[06:47] <russia213> hmw: I'm in livecd right now
[06:47] <hmw> russia213 - can you mount the file system with the /boot folder?
[06:48] <russia213> I thinkso, just need help doing it ^^() *is a total n00b*
[06:48] <russia213> hmw:*
[06:48] <dimedo> hi, i've got a FullHD tv connected to my Display Port through an HDMI adapter. when i look into the screen resolution setting, the tv is shown as "unknown", the resolution 1920x1080 is not available from the menu, all given resolutions create a warning about an unsupported resolution on my tv screen. is there a way to add the missing resolution?
[06:48] <hmw> russia213 - no problem. do you remember, how the hard drive was partitioned? and: is it IDE or SATA?
[06:48] <alexb92> hey guys, i was using amsn on ubuntu and then i changed back onto wlm for windows
[06:49] <alexb92> and all of the names of my contacts arent properly synchronised
[06:49] <alexb92> is there a way to fix it?
[06:49] <russia213> hmw: Which hard drive? windows or the ubuntu external?
[06:50] <gartral1> how do i make a desktop shortcut from te file i want a shortcut too?
[06:50] <hmw> russia213 - the ubuntu drive of course, your windows wont have a /boot directory, would it? *g* did you try to install ubuntu to a external usb hard drive?
[06:50] <russia213> hmw: Ubuntu was successfully installed on the external
[06:51] <hmw> russia213 - so it is a USB HD?
[06:51] <kansan> once you pop a gnome-terminal out... how do you pop it back in?
[06:51] <user17> miss nori
[06:52] <anarkissed> every time I try to upgrade my video player or codecs the computer says I can't because it depends on other files that have to be installed and it doesn't give me any idea how to install the other stuff.  whether I use the package manager, terminal, or add/remove apps, it just refuses to install.
[06:52] <hmw> russia213 - maybe this helps you:
[06:52] <hmw> russia213 - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/grub-error-21-after-full-install-to-usb-hard-drive/
[06:53] <Out_Cold> how do i use my device-mapper?
[06:53] <quibbler> kansan: type exit
[06:53] <gatewarstrek> lyk3n: Good luck, I would try clearing those configs, if that doens't work pull the very latest version from videolan and install it. They will have instructions on their website. (the ubuntu repos are a few versions old, usually)
[06:53] <gatewarstrek> I am going to go pass out now. Gnight
[06:54] <kansan> in man pages:  ... how does one distinguish between required/not required params.  i.e. are [] indicitive of optional params?  any other rules of thumb?        chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...
[06:54] <russia213> hmw: I've already tried that
[06:55] <lyk3n> gatewarstrek: thanks for the help. I tried the recommendations at least I got further. Right now I'm just compiling and bypassing the errors with disables this and that command line
[06:55] <rzz8509> tough crowd tonight?
[06:55] <ramirand_> kansan: Generally, yes, by convention [] indicates optional params.
[06:55] <Gnea> kansan: try man man
[06:55] <ramirand_> kansan: | indicates a choice between options.
[06:55] <hmw> russia213 - you probably need to use the UUID number of the drive instead of the device file entry (/dev/sda) ... checking
[06:56] <skate2> how come when i nmap -v -A localhost it only says port 80 is open, but if i nmap my internal IP address it says port 80, cups and postgres are open?
[06:56] <Yossarian> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 libasound2-plugins; wget -N boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb; wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64; sudo dpkg -i skype-install.deb; sudo dpkg -i getlibs-all.deb; sudo getlibs -p libqtcore4 libqtgui4 bluez-alsa
[06:56] <Yossarian> oops sorry
[06:56] <Gnea> skate2: sudo netstat -pan
[06:56] <FloodBot3> Yossarian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <Yossarian> wrong window :)
[06:56] <ramirand_> Gnea: Nice, hadn't read man man in a decade. Looks like it's gotten better.
[06:56] <skate2> gnea whats that do
[06:56] <Kira> I keep forgetting how to list the installation locations of a package in aptitude
[06:57] <Gnea> ramirand_: yeah it has
[06:57] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: you're running compiz, right?
[06:57] <Yossarian> yessir
[06:57] <Gnea> skate2: it lists every open port and socket
[06:57] <kansan> Gnea,  ;p
[06:57] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: apparently your Krusader problem is a known bug
[06:57] <Gnea> kansan: pardon?
[06:57] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1040008.html
[06:57] <Yossarian> ooh thanks :D
[06:57] <kansan> Gnea, i like that suggestion
[06:58] <hmw> russia213 - go to http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm and search the page for "uuid" to see an example. i am trying to figure out, how you get the UUID of your HD
[06:58] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: there's no solution there, but maybe with some googling you'll find one
[06:58] <Gnea> kansan: i usually check it out at least once a year :)
[06:58] <Yossarian> prince_jammys: i've done some googling but no real solution yet :\
[06:59] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[06:59] <prince_jammys> Yossarian: apparently not maximizing it works
[06:59] <hmw> russia213 - http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/02/how-to-find-your-uuids-for-devices-in-ubuntu-and-other-debian-based-distros/
[06:59] <prince_jammys> !blkid
[06:59] <quibbler> gladio70: /join #ubuntu-it
[06:59] <russia213> hmw: I'm just gonna go, hopefully I'll get somewhere tomorrow
[06:59] <Kira> How do I find out what files have been written by aptitude?
[06:59] <hmw> russia213 - bye & good luck!
[06:59] <Kira> (for a specific package)
[07:00] <Yossarian> prince_jammys: so it's either compiz or krusader
[07:00] <Yossarian> shatty choice to make :\
[07:00] <prince_jammys> Kira: you mean what files have been installed by a certain package?
[07:00]  * villasubrosa has fixed movie problem with "restricted formats" (maybe" g'nite and thanks for the security net and faq page
[07:00] <Gnea> Kira: like the contents of the package?
[07:00] <Kira> prince_jammys: yes
[07:00] <Kira> the full paths
[07:00] <TelQuel> hey, for some reason when downloading to my desktop it says I don't have enough space left to finish the download and yet I apparently have 7.5 GB left according to the system tab properties. The file is only 1 GB
[07:00] <prince_jammys> Kira: dpkg -L nameofpackage
[07:01] <Kira> thanks.
[07:01] <Kira> I keep forgetting
[07:01] <akash> hi
[07:01] <kansan> can symbolic links ever be relative?
[07:01] <Gnea> Kira: write it on a sticky note and paste it to the bottom of your monitor :)
[07:02] <hmw> kansan - they always are!
[07:02] <ramirand_> kansan: Sure.
[07:03] <hmw> kansan, ramirand_ i mean, the usually are, except they begin with /
[07:03] <kansan> hmw, everyone ive ever done was absolute
[07:03] <Slart> TelQuel: can you pastebin the output of "df -h" ?
[07:03] <kansan> hmw, so cant have a symlink that uses ../../foo ?
[07:03] <kansan> i.e. from current directory?
[07:03] <ramirand_> kansan: ln -sf foo ../bar      is perfectly valid.
[07:03] <hmw> kansan - you definetively can
[07:03] <ramirand_> kansan: Sorry, other way around.
[07:03] <kansan> link target
[07:03] <ramirand_> kansan: ln -s ../bar foo
[07:03] <kansan> oops wrong
[07:03] <kansan> target link
[07:03] <UndertakerX2> I have phpmyadmin installed but cant access it via www.localhost/phpmyadmin
[07:04] <kansan> i never really remember the syntax ;p
[07:04] <UndertakerX2> how can o fix this?
[07:04] <TelQuel> Slart, sure thing, just give me a sec
[07:04] <GuruDrew> UndertakerX2, Add phpmyadmin to your webroot? symlink it? Is phpmyadmin installed via apt-get?
[07:04] <hmw> kansan ramirand_ - you can imagine a symlink as a simple file containing a path. it can be relative or absolute. it will be resolved, when you try to access the file, that is linked. it'
[07:05] <kansan> hmw, ok makes sense
[07:05] <hmw> kansan ramirand_ - its not resolved, when the link is created! only after...
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> !apt-cache policy
[07:05] <UndertakerX2> gurudrew, yes it installed via apt-get
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> !apt-cache
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> hmm
[07:05] <TelQuel> Slart, ok well according to terminal (lesson being always listen to terminal not GUI) I have filled the partition ... thing is, I don't see how that coudl be true as I have little installed here.
[07:05] <UndertakerX2> GuruDrew: how do i make a link?
[07:05] <ari_stre1s> guys, what does apt-cache policy do? i don't get it from the man page
[07:05] <skate2> is there a command line calculator for ubuntu? so i can do simple math like 29 * 14
[07:06] <Flannel> skate2: qalc is one, there's also the tried and true bc.
[07:06] <ramirand_> kansan hmw: The cool thing is that the target doesn't have to be there. You can use that to your advantage sometimes. The problem, of course, is that the target doesn't have to be there... so you can mess up and make a link, thinking you got the target right, but you didn't.
[07:06] <skate2> flannel how do you do 2 + 2 with bc?
[07:06] <Slart> TelQuel: emptied the trash?
[07:07] <TelQuel> Slart, I guess some of my educational software might be large but I don't recall any of it taking long to download. Do you know of any fun games to play? Working a painfully boring night shift.
[07:07] <GuruDrew> UndertakerX2, 'man ln', usually ln -s, but read up on the usage
[07:08] <TelQuel> Slart, what is the aptitude command again to display packages by search string? I am trying to find out the package name for achilles life simulator... apparently it is not achilles-life-simulator
[07:08] <UndertakerX2> gurudrew, well let me ask this where is phpmyadmin installed at?
[07:08] <Slart> TelQuel: if you have a fairly modern computer there is a demo of Enemy Territory Quake Wars for download.. or look through the "games" section in synaptic
[07:08] <Slart> TelQuel: apt-cache search ?
[07:09] <Flannel> skate2: echo "2+2" | bc, similarly, "qalc 2+2"
[07:09] <skate2> ah echo 2+2 | bc
[07:09] <skate2> thanks
[07:09] <ImSad> Hey, my CD/DVD drive isn't really working, I can put a disk in, and it shows that it's there ( with the desktop icon) but I can't play it.
[07:09] <ramirand_> skate2: Try "echo $((2 + 2))"
[07:09] <ImSad> Can anyone help?
[07:09] <kansan> ramirand_, i didnt know that; thank you
[07:09] <TelQuel> Slart,  it is something I used before to search for package names installed already... I have a fairly modern computer though only integrated graphics
[07:09] <TelQuel> Slart, it involved "aptitude and using TAB"
[07:09] <Ultraputz> problem was solved by having dpkg reconfigure xorg-server
[07:09] <TecnaTranux> !ubottu help |Imsad
[07:09] <Slart> TelQuel: I don't know aptitude.. never used it..
[07:09] <TecnaTranux> meh wrong caommand
[07:10] <TelQuel> Slart, well how would you go about discovering the true identity of an installed app package? hehe.
[07:10] <Flannel> TecnaTranux: `dpkg -L | grep achilles` might be fine
[07:10] <Flannel> TelQuel: If you know the binary (or any file in the package) you can dpkg -S /path/to/file to figure out what package its provided by
[07:10] <Slart> TelQuel: you can get a list of installed packages using dpkg -l <-that's a lower case L... or use synaptic, there is a filter for installed packages
[07:11] <TelQuel> Slart, synaptic seems much slower and has a much higher fail-rate than does terminal
[07:11] <milligan_> I have a tar file, that contains a directory structure and some files. If I want to the get file /some/path/to/myFile/file.html , would the command be tar -xvzf tar.bz2 /some/path/to/myFile/file.html ?
[07:11] <Flannel> TecnaTranux: Just ignore that last bit.
[07:12] <ImSad> I have a Windows 7 disk, and I would like to try it out, but i can't boot it from start-up.
[07:12] <ImSad> Anyone have ideas?
[07:13] <Gnea> ImSad: this is what #windows is for
[07:13] <loafers> Is metacity the default windows manager for ubuntu?
[07:13] <Flannel> ImSad: This is #ubuntu, you may be interested in ##windows, they'll be able to help with windows issues.
[07:13] <TecnaTranux> I'msad, this is #ubuntu, not #windows.
[07:13] <ImSad> I got that.
[07:13] <ImSad> But I'm running ubuntu
[07:13] <Flannel> ImSad: You're looking to dual boot?
[07:13] <Gnea> ImSad: which has nothing to do with booting a windows disk.
[07:13] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: aptitude search i~ achilles
[07:14] <ImSad> and I could boot disks from start-up before installing ubuntu.
[07:14] <TecnaTranux> imsad, are you trying to make a duel boot?
[07:14] <gartral1> indows 7 is the first windows too aggressivly use its own bootloader... you have too swap drives out and use one JUST for windows
[07:14] <ImSad> I want to re-install.
[07:14] <Gnea> ImSad: did you check your bios settings?
[07:14] <ImSad> then after, re-install ubuntu.
[07:14] <ImSad> Yeah
[07:14] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, do I actually use a tilde or is that simply meant to signify TAB?
[07:14] <ramirand_> ImSad: Or run Windows 7 in a vm
[07:14] <hmw> ImSad: ubuntu isnt responsible to boot anything. your bios is. check your boot priority settings in the boot menu, make cd bootable.
[07:14] <ImSad> it searches for a while and then boots from HDD
[07:14] <gartral1> ImSad: i dont think you can dude
[07:14] <ImSad> :<
[07:14] <TecnaTranux> Imsad, make sure your bios boot order had cdrom before first hd
[07:15] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: no, that's a literal tilde. it's pretty much like dpkg -l '*achilles*'
[07:15] <ImSad> It runs boots fine on my other computer.
[07:15] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, thanks a lot, I don't like using the synaptic much as I
[07:15] <ImSad> and my cdrom is before hd
[07:15] <ImSad> it searches for a while, then skips the step
[07:15] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: they might have suggested using a tab to try to autocomplete the package name
[07:15] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, have had bad experiences already with it
[07:15] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, that is precisely what they were suggesting.
[07:16] <TecnaTranux> that's bizzare.  are you sure there's nothing wrong with the drive?
[07:16] <gartral1> like TecnaTranux says, reboot and drop into bios, and make sure your first boot device is your cdrom
[07:16] <ImSad> no
[07:16] <TecnaTranux> gartal1: he said he already checked
[07:16] <ImSad> not that I know of at least...
[07:16] <gartral1> also, its best too use the "master" cdrom in your drive chain
[07:16] <hmw> ImSad - your cd may be broken. try turning off "boot other device" or turning that on. try removing any boot drives and use the boot menu (appears often, when it says "press del to enter bios setup"
[07:17] <ImSad> It boots fine on my other computer, the windows 7 disk
[07:17] <hmw> ImSad - anyways - dont use windows *g*
[07:17] <TecnaTranux> Imsad, do you have more than one cdrom drive?
[07:17] <prince_jammys> TelQuel: the name of the package seems to be just 'achilles', though. :)
[07:17] <ImSad> just one.
[07:17] <prince_jammys> !info achilles > TelQuel
[07:17] <mansour> alslam 3lekm
[07:17] <mansour> arabic
[07:17] <hmw> TecnaTranux ImSad using the boot menu should definetively make the machine trying to load the boot sector from the selected drive
[07:17] <mansour> help arabic
[07:17] <Flannel> !sa | mansour
[07:17] <TelQuel> prince_jammys,  yeah I got it sorted out but thanks... good to get more practice managing packets myself.
[07:18] <mansour> hi
[07:18] <gartral1> actually, ive heard alot of good reprots on windows build 7001
[07:18] <Gnea> ImSad: if I were you, i'd /join ##windows and ask them, it sounds like a problem they'd know about
[07:18] <mansour> سلام
[07:18] <ImSad> I'll try
[07:18] <TecnaTranux> imsadimsad, try what hmw said
[07:18] <mansour> سلام
[07:18] <Gnea> monstah: please stop.
[07:18] <Flannel> mansour: english only here.  /join #ubuntu-arabic
[07:18] <Gnea> monstah: sorry
[07:19] <TelQuel> prince_jammys, ok, so it still says most of my hard drive space is used... how do I find out what is eating it  up so badly? Seems to me that I only have bare essentials of ubuntu on a 12 GB partition and should have more than 0 GBs free. There is something I am missing
[07:20] <mansour> هل تنصحوني ان ارقي الى 8.04 ؟
[07:20] <loafers> English?
[07:20] <Flannel> TelQuel: check /var/log for runaway log files
[07:20] <Flannel> mansour: /join #ubuntu-arabic  Please speak english here.
[07:20] <Gnea> !arabic | mansour
[07:20] <gloub> join#fedora.fr
[07:21] <TelQuel> it claims to be quite small
[07:21] <TelQuel> is there another way to check other than the GUI? because I am getting the impression that for whatever reason the GUI is incorrect in its estimation of my space.
[07:21] <ashlessburn> i having issues with my system i ran a few programs over the last few days and now when i boot i have the selectioin menu on what too boot from what did i delete or need to do so it boots automatically
[07:22] <Flannel> TelQuel: You can use baobab to figure out whats using what.  Try df and du as well, for the terminal.
[07:23] <CAiRO_> can somebody recommend any gnome music player apart from rhythmbox?
[07:23] <ramirand_> TelQuel: sudo du | sort -rn | head       <- Might help if you know which files / directories are taking up the most space.
[07:23] <dimedo> can anyone tell me how to set a correct new xorg resolution for my fullhd tv via xrandr?
[07:23] <hmw> CAiRO_ go to add software and search for "winamp" - there is a clone out there, which is quite ok
[07:24] <w6> wer
[07:24] <TelQuel> ramirand_, there we are... thanks. I forgot I tested DVD ripping software on this thing and it clearly did not delete after burning. That's the culprit.
[07:25] <regex-hater> Why dosent the following command worj echo "abcde abcde es" | sed 's/'a*'/f/'    I want to replace all a with f
[07:26] <regex-hater> this only replaces the first a
[07:26] <ramirand_> regex-hater: try sed 's/a/f/g'
[07:26] <ashlessburn> anyone?
[07:27] <ramirand_> regex-hater: trailing g means keep going - don't stop after the first sub.
[07:27] <regex-hater> It works!
[07:27] <regex-hater> thanks
[07:27] <regex-hater> :P
[07:27] <ScottG489> Whats some good software to use my webcam on my laptop. Any software really, like just to use it for taking pictures or recording, not just as a webcam
[07:28] <jtre> hi, I'm trying to get sms_client working, it wants the device name of my modem but I connect through ethernet (eth0) is there another device I can put in to get it working?
[07:28] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: that sounds like the grub menu - doesn't it just timeout and pick the default?
[07:29] <ashlessburn> after awhile but it use to be auto, installed the apt-get splashy didnt like it removed it and i seem to get this boot. not a issue system starts fine. but its just annoying'
[07:29] <TecnaTranux> was anyone here logging the past 24 hours?  I lost my log and need the nick of someone i'm trying to help.
[07:29] <mick_laptop> anyone know how i can troubleshoot my monitor turning itself off and on every few minutes?
[07:29] <Flannel> !logs | TecnaTranux
[07:29] <mick_laptop> it gets annoying when every 15 minutes your screen goes black
[07:30] <TecnaTranux> oh good.  i forgot about that.  *facepalm*
[07:30] <cast|lir> mick_laptop: maybe its some fubar powersaving setting
[07:30] <kraut> moin
[07:30] <cast|lir> mick_laptop: is  it exactly 15 minutes, is it only when you're not using it?
[07:30] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: I've never installed splashy. You should be able to change the grub timeout to be like 1 second if you want, though.
[07:30] <mick_laptop> nope, i'm using it and i'm guessing w/ the 15 minute figure
[07:31] <mick_laptop> i can clock it though (next time it happens)
[07:31] <hmw> mick_laptop - it goes blank and comes back imediately after?
[07:31] <mick_laptop> hmw: yes
[07:31] <cast|lir> mick_laptop: aye, measure it for two more occurances, if we can say its say, exactly 900 seconds thats a lot different to it  being random intervals
[07:31] <ashlessburn> how, not going to lie just got off work is there a script(shell) or a known thing
[07:32] <yinxiao> #ubuntu-cn
[07:32] <mick_laptop> well is there a log that io can look at?
[07:32] <hmw> mick_laptop i know the problem... but forgot what it was exactly. if i am right, its some sort of driver issue. it gets less often, when i reduced the refresh frequency
[07:33] <yinxiao> ./nick yx
[07:33] <req^> Is it good practice to report the most active ssh bruteforce attempts? I just noticed I forgot denyhosts from my new install and in one day there were 600+ attempts from a guatemalan IP :P
[07:33] <mick_laptop> it started after an upgrade so that could be driver issue
[07:33] <cast|lir> req^: i wouldnt bother
[07:34] <hmw> mick_laptop - my windows boxes do it, too.
[07:34] <req^> yeah I kind of thought it wouldn't do any good :7
[07:34] <mick_laptop> oh i'm sorry that you have windows boxes
[07:34] <cast|lir> req^: generally i gather reporting it to anyone only has a very small chance of having anything done
[07:34] <mick_laptop> my condolences
[07:34] <hmw> mick_laptop i suspect some sort of potential to raise, until the card decides to reset the output chip or something alike
[07:34] <yinxiao> dss
[07:34] <cast|lir> req^: setup port knocking, or whitelisting :)
[07:35] <cast|lir> req^: if it annoys you, anyway, its not a security issue in itself
[07:35] <req^> I'll look into that, thanks :)
[07:35] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: I'm pretty sure all you need to do is update /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:36] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: Not sure if there's anything beyond that, though.
[07:36] <Roken> Does anyone else notice crap speeds using Transmission for torrents, or is it just me?
[07:36] <ashlessburn> telling me permission denied
[07:37] <ashlessburn> and im doing it under rot
[07:37] <ashlessburn> root
[07:37] <jtre> incase people were interested you can't send sms messages without dialing up on a modem (so the telcos get their fee)
[07:38] <cast|lir> jtre: there is a xmpp based sms service :)
[07:38] <jtre> really?
[07:38] <xxCody> Im having slight problems. I really don't know a lot about connections and i don't think i could use the bridge-util in the terminal. Is there another way (easier) to bridge connections?
[07:38] <ndlovu> is there some way to use apt to work out which repo a package is in?
[07:38] <cast|lir> aye, they were a bit cheaper than my carrier, maybe 50%ish, but still - sms is expensive
[07:39] <ramirand_> ashlessburn: So, sudoedit /boot/grub/menu.lst    gives permission denied?
[07:40] <cast|lir> jtre: aspsms.com
[07:40] <WishingMaster> ashlessburn: you can use a program called start-up manager
[07:40] <jtre> thanks cast
[07:41] <WishingMaster> ashlessburn:it gives you a lot of options to manuplate grub and to repair it as well
[07:41] <ashlessburn> what is the default for the grub
[07:41] <error404notfound> how can I setup trac with exiting git on ubuntu 8.10?
[07:41] <ramirand_> WishingMaster: Thanks, great tip.
[07:41] <WishingMaster> the latest kernel i guess
[07:42] <WishingMaster> ramirand_:welcome
[07:43] <cast|lir> error404notfound: bit specialized for this channel, trac has a community, id ask them
[07:44] <ashlessburn> brb
[07:45] <error404notfound> 3 issues. 1. My top and bottom panels keep disappearing, everytime I have to rename .gnome2 and restart gdm to get them work. 2. Mic doesn't work if I close volume manager. The mic section gets muted again if I close volume manager. 3. Fonts of applications in wine are not appearing correctly though I install corefonts using winetricks.
[07:45] <scientes> metcity is restarting like every 5 minutes
[07:45] <scientes> what is going on
[07:46] <WishingMaster> error404notfound: did you select auto hide on panels?
[07:46] <lockd> how do you change the color theme for Qt? that's not an option in qtconfig
[07:46] <error404notfound> WishingMaster: no...
[07:47] <error404notfound> WishingMaster: they actually crash...i tried killall gnome-panel, it worked, but when  try to start gnome-panel again, there is already one running, I do kill -9, but then I can't start gnome-panel
[07:47] <error404notfound> even if its starts, nothing is displayed..
[07:47] <etoo> türk varmı türk
[07:48] <etoo> :))))
[07:48] <WishingMaster> you need a better person than me to guide you on this one,sorry bro couldn't help you much
[07:48] <WishingMaster> error404notfound:
[07:49] <WishingMaster> :(
[07:49] <etoo> aloooooo
[07:49] <etoo> turkısh
[07:49] <etoo> speak
[07:49] <etoo> varmı
[07:49] <Slart> !tr
[07:49] <etoo> wow
[07:49] <etoo> thanks
[07:50] <MethinX> Can anyone help me install a second NVidia Card so i can dual monitor support?
[07:50] <jim_p> hi people
[07:50] <cast|lir> MethinX: like, open the case and put it in a slot kidn of install?
[07:50] <jim_p> where can i find the aurora theme engine since its no longer in the repos?
[07:50] <MethinX> do I need new drivers? and if I do can I get them from sudo apt-get? o
[07:50] <MethinX> unfortuannatly its in the case now Im just trying to get it to work
[07:51] <lockd> jim_p: download all the dependencies by hand and rebuild it, or look for the debian package
[07:51] <Slart> MethinX: I dont think you need new drivers.. it's probably a question of configuration
[07:51] <Roken> Methinx, I don't think you can use 2 cards without SLI hardware support...
[07:51] <Slart> jim_p: have you looked at gnome-look.org?
[07:51] <puneeth> when is the firefox 3.0.7 update going to be seen?
[07:52] <MethinX> hmm, Im trying to find the new drivers for the second card but the second card doesnt have any info as to what version of Geforce it is
[07:53] <puneeth> 3.0.6 update for firefox...??
[07:53] <lockd> does anyone at all know how to change the qt4 theme without installing all of kde?
[07:53] <puneeth> !firefox
[07:55] <mukesh> c.ircsuper.net
[07:55] <mukesh> irc.ircsuper.net
[07:57] <lockd> hmm, I had to use a debugger just to find out where the theme file is
[07:57] <jim_p> lockd, Slart thanks, i was hoping for a repo solution. plus i wanted to see HOW is it compiled.
[07:59] <Slart> jim_p: yes, a repo solution would be better.. I have no idea why it isn't available any more.
[07:59] <lockd> repo solution for what, selecting themes?
[07:59] <lockd> or was that a mistell
[07:59] <jim_p> Slart, oh well, nevermind
[07:59] <jim_p> lockd, for a theme engine
[07:59] <Slart> lockd: for the aurora theme engine
[08:00] <lockd> aurora theme engine is gtk2, right?
[08:00] <jim_p> lockd, yea
[08:00] <lockd> make sure to use checkinstall so you can rip it out if it causes crashes every 5 seconds. I installed a fairly buggy theme engine that prevented me from using the chooser
[08:01] <BlackDex> Hello there
[08:01] <lockd> but that's because Ubuntu only half-cares about running gtk1 apps
[08:01] <BlackDex> I have a huge problem
[08:01] <cast|lir> uh...checkinstall is scary :P
[08:01] <BlackDex> my mouse isn't working anymore in gnome
[08:01] <BlackDex> also no keyboard commands are working
[08:01] <jim_p> lockd, i use some other method to set my gtk1 theme that involves text editing
[08:01] <BlackDex> i tryed several mouses
[08:02] <BlackDex> tried
[08:02] <BlackDex> USB or PS/2
[08:02] <lockd> I never edit anything, just symlink stuff around
[08:02] <BlackDex> if i start with the Live CD it works
[08:03] <BlackDex> keyboard seems to work to get to other consoles
[08:03] <BlackDex> like i am on an other now
[08:03] <jim_p> BlackDex, look in google for keybord/mouse not working with xorg 1.5
[08:03] <BlackDex> jim_p: ok.. ill check
[08:03] <jim_p> :)
[08:04] <Out_Cold> anyone know what the apache2.conf file is named or located?? it's not in /etc/apache2/*
[08:04] <ndlovu> I was using nvu for basic html editing, but I see that it's now dead. what's a good replacement? Kompozer seems to be the default, but is seamonkey composer any good?
[08:05] <cast|lir> ndlovu: i like composer, personally
[08:05] <jhass840> Is anyone around?
[08:05] <jim_p> Out_Cold, in /etc maybe?
[08:06] <jhass840> How do I set my java classpath?
[08:06] <jim_p> ndlovu, quanta if you dont mind kde apps
[08:06] <ndlovu> jim_p, isn't komposer also kde?
[08:06] <Out_Cold> jim_p, nope. I installed apache2 but there is nothing with apache2.conf using 'locate apache2.conf'
[08:07] <jim_p> ndlovu, oddly no. kompozer is gtk
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Be warned that Kompozer is a bit broken in 8.10.  A fix is on the way, but not ready quite yet.  (Feel free to harass me about it occasionally though.)
[08:09] <Flannel> Out_Cold: apache2.conf should exist in /etc/apache2/  but its not the only configuration file.
[08:09] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso, as it happens I'm still on 8.04, so should be okay for now, thanks
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: excellent.
[08:09] <ndlovu> jim_p, that is weird, goes against the general naming convention...
[08:10] <jim_p> ndlovu, i know. the relevant kde app is quanta
[08:10] <ndlovu> well, if kompozer is gtk, I'll try it, but I might also give quanta a look as well.
[08:10] <Out_Cold> Flannel, that whole directory is null... but i'm trying to start up apache2 for a disk that already had it installed..
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Quanta is nice as well from what I've heard, but with less wysiwyg.
[08:12] <Flannel> Out_Cold: Alright.  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[08:12] <Out_Cold> 8.04 server
[08:12] <Out_Cold> i reinstalled over the / but not the /var or /home
[08:12] <Flannel> Out_Cold: Ok.  Do this: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-prefork && sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:13] <Flannel> not over /var?  thats... interesting.
[08:13] <Out_Cold> had all my ftp and www
[08:14] <Flannel> And dpkg state and a few other things ;)
[08:14] <Out_Cold> see now that's something learned..
[08:14] <tv7497> http://<IP_ADDRESS> guys does this work ????
[08:15] <Flannel> tv7497: Yes
[08:15] <Out_Cold> tv7497, yes
[08:15] <Flannel> tv7497: But, in the future, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:15] <Roken> lol
[08:15] <tv7497> Flannel: ok sir wanted to check was the lamp working properly
[08:16] <Roken> Well, his server is running apache =P
[08:16] <Out_Cold> i don't know enough about apt-get and all it's capabilities...
[08:16] <Out_Cold> with linux it's always one problem after another though lol
[08:17] <Roken> tv7497, what doc / icon set are you using? Also, whats that icon doing there to the right of the dock?
[08:17] <koshari> Out_Cold your in for an interesting ride
[08:17] <Roken> Oh nice, he leave >.>
[08:17] <Roken> leaves*
[08:17] <cast|lir> Out_Cold: strange, its just like that in windows :o
[08:17] <Flannel> Out_Cold: I'll just say right now: You're going to have problems from that leftover /var stuff.  It may be a good idea to maybe move your ftp and www stuff somewhere else, and reinstall properly (move them to /home temporarily, etc)
[08:17] <Out_Cold> cast|lir, but at least you can have fun in Linux
[08:17] <koshari> cast|lir windows has package managent?
[08:18] <Roken> koshari, you didn't know? Its called google every peice of software you have installed
[08:18] <lockd> uh isn't that the slackware package manager?
[08:19] <Roken> >.>
[08:19] <Out_Cold> yea Flannel all over that.. I just have a relative riding me for a web page.. I was trying to get a local setup before I fixed the rest
[08:19] <LSD|Ninja> Does NetworkManager do static IPs properly yet?
[08:19] <Roken> Hrm, someone might want to tell tv7497 not to broadcast that he just put a server up at his home IP, rofl
[08:20] <BlackDex> hmm still no luck
[08:20] <BlackDex> still no mouse or keyboard in gnome
[08:20] <BlackDex> reconfigured xorg.conf etc.. no go
[08:21] <lockd> I'm not sure NetworkManager does anything properly yet.
[08:21] <Tekno> I love it
[08:21] <Tekno> works neatly with my hsdpa modem
[08:21] <lockd> overzealous autoconfig
[08:22] <oz1> anyone know how to activate bridge between several network cards? im using xubuntu eth0 > eth1
[08:22] <lockd> well, modems are notoriously difficult to configure yourself. I'm quite surprised
[08:22] <cast|lir> koshari: it sure does,
[08:23] <lockd> I was blamed for a bridging/routing loop after running NM for only a single day. When I ripped out that package, nothing else happened
[08:23] <lockd> sure, it could have been another part of the network. but I'd rather be safe
[08:29] <Daemon> how do i create an icon on my desktop that links to an app?
[08:30] <Out_Cold> Daemon, right click the desktop and select launcher.. the apps are in /usr/bin/
[08:31] <Out_Cold> i forget where the icons are
[08:31] <Out_Cold> Daemon, see if it's in the list where the icon is
[08:34] <Out_Cold> ssssshhhhh!!!!!
[08:37] <Out_Cold> if i sudo scp do i get super user on the remote or host?
[08:37] <Daemon> out_cold downloaded a game to home folder how do i create launcher for it?
[08:38] <Out_Cold> Daemon, look for the bin file for it
[08:38] <Out_Cold> then add that to a launcher
[08:38] <hmw> Out_Cold - using sudo lets the specified program run as root, on the machine, where you typed the command. if it will be root on the other side depends on how you "login"/connect on the other pc
[08:39] <Out_Cold> yea.. well i suppose i need a root password on the other box then...
[08:39] <inspired> I have a script run by cron which executes a few commands. every command but /etc/init.d/freeradius restart works when run by cron. when run manually everything works. I found out that using sudo to run /etc/init.d/freeradius restart also makes the script work in cron. the job is run by root's crontab. any idea why I need the sudo??
[08:39] <hmw> Out_Cold - i guess, if you sudo scp, it will try to login the other side as root, too.
[08:40] <Daemon> out_cold were would  i find thebin file?
[08:40] <inspired> Out_Cold, sudo scp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[08:41] <cappiz> server 8.10 - how is the motd generated?
[08:41] <inspired> if you actually wanted to sudo on your machine and transfer to a normal user on the remote machine
[08:41] <Out_Cold> inspired, yea.. that gives super use on the box.com?
[08:41] <jstanley> Out_Cold: you still need a password
[08:41] <inspired> Out_Cold, no, that gives you sudo on your local box and a normal user on the remote
[08:41] <jstanley> and the same can be achieved with ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:41] <jstanley> ssh just uses the username you are currently logged on as if you don't specify a different one
[08:42] <Out_Cold> yea so i need to set up a root password on a fresh install to get root@@box
[08:42] <Out_Cold> and Daemon look for the file that runs the game. perhaps it's source if you just downloaded it to your desktop
[08:42] <Roken> Anyone here have a Zune and transfer music to it using Ubuntu?
[08:43] <jstanley> Roken: you mean 'anyone want to admit to owning a zune?' ;)
[08:43] <Roken> Pft, I have one
[08:43] <Roken> I like the screen size
[08:43] <Out_Cold> admits to not owning one
[08:43] <jstanley> i don't have any mp3 player
[08:44] <hmw> what is a zune? lol
[08:44] <koshari> Roken *pity*
[08:44] <jstanley> hmw: microsoft mp3 player
[08:44] <arcamis> I'm having a problem with the latest kubuntu amd64 install cd
[08:44] <Slart> jstanley: come on.. don't kick people who are already down.. he has a zune.. have some pity ;)
[08:44] <jstanley> ;)
[08:44] <Roken> I bought mine about 2 years before I even knew what Linux was, so shhh =P
[08:44] <Out_Cold> they need to make a ogg portable player
[08:44] <inspired> Out_Cold, you don't want to log into a box as the root user
[08:44] <arcamis> I can boot into the livecd
[08:44] <inspired> I strongly advice you not to
[08:44] <arcamis> and use the KDE desktop environment and everything
[08:44] <Slart> Roken: I'm sorry... just kidding.. how does the zune work on windows? you use some kind of "itunes for microsoft" to transfer music to it?
[08:44] <Out_Cold> why inspired? i need root access to scp some stuff..
[08:45] <inspired> why do you need root access?
[08:45] <truth> Can somebody please tell me why the internet access on my system 76 keeps dropping? I am very close to my router
[08:45] <inspired> logging on as root is a horrible security mistake
[08:45] <koshari> Slart i beleive they use the "plays for sure" format
[08:45] <Roken> Yes, slart, but to be honest I like it over the clunky itunes interface
[08:45] <Slart> truth: does the whole network go down? or just internet?
[08:45] <Out_Cold> it's a local network
[08:45] <arcamis> and it appears as though I can install the system to my hard disk
[08:45] <arcamis> however, once I do so
[08:45] <arcamis> and reboot the system
[08:45] <arcamis> I get to the kdm screen
[08:45] <arcamis> log in
[08:46] <arcamis> and get dumped into a bunch of weirld unicode characters in varous fonts
[08:46] <arcamis> weird*
[08:46] <Slart> Roken: have you looked at amarok for example? it handles ipods, perhaps it can talk to zunes too?
[08:46] <Roken> The reason I was asking if anyone does it is because I know theres a port for apple's itunes on Linux, and people have tweaked it to run in Wine, but I'm not sure about Zune's software
[08:46] <truth> Slart: just the internet. Sometimes it says I'm still connected, sometimes it doesn't
[08:46] <arcamis> nothing happens, my sytem just freezes
[08:46] <Slart> truth: what is this "it" ? network manager?
[08:46] <Roken> I'll just have to google it, I guess. I was hoping someone in here could point me in a direction, though. Thanks, Slart =]
[08:46] <arcamis> it doesn't respond to c+a+backspace or c+a+f*
[08:47] <arcamis> I'm using an HP pavilion dv7
[08:47] <Out_Cold> inspired, you are referring to internet security?
[08:47] <truth> Slart: no the internet icon on the top right corner
[08:47] <Slart> Roken: you're welcome.. let us know if you find something
[08:47] <Slart> truth: are you sure that isn't the network manager?
[08:47] <arcamis> I have ubuntu's root partition on sda6, an extended partition of sda4 in ext3 format