 What about kde plasma 5.20 in the official build?
 @Sneid, What are you asking?
 I mean when the new version of kde will be added. It just came out relatively recently and there are a number of bugs. Are you going to update kde in 20.10 or keep it for future versions?
 How much ram kubuntu uses when the user is doing nothing?
 @subha2, around 500 ~ 600 MB
[06:49] <Perdellian>  /close
[06:55] <j> test
[11:49] <user|78732> I am unable to remove two side panels from Kubuntu desktop
[11:50] <user|78732> Please help
[11:54] <user|78732> how do I remove two side panels on right side and left side respectively
[12:01] <peter_> Try it with a right click edit bar
[12:04] <user|78732> i tried, with no luck
[12:05] <user|78732> i can remove upper and bottom panel by edit bar
[12:05] <user|78732> but not the side panels
[13:35] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[19:53] <nolo18> hey, good night. I've just installed kubuntu. Before install it, I've tested in live boot, and saw I could install DisplayCAL. But now after install there is no way to find this package. Could any of you help me?
 LTS 20.04 linux 5.8 update network/sound quick fix, boot last good config … « 'sudo apt-get install linux-modules-extra-5.8.0-36-generic' » … init 6


[06:31] <bittin> Translating some more Lomiri and UBPorts to Swedish now during the last September 2023 Ubuntu Hack Day


[11:29] <ochosi> superm1: heya, you're one of the mythbuntu admins? xubuntu project lead here, i wanted to ask you folks about a change in ubiquity that we were considering that would also affect you since you're using xfce/xfwm4
[11:31] <ochosi> tgm4883: ^
[13:53] <superm1> ochosi: sure shoot
[13:53] <ochosi> hey superm1
[13:54] <ochosi> we recently noticed (actually it was brought to our attention through the u-mate dev) that ubiquity has a built-in panel that is explicitely disabled with xfwm4
[13:54] <superm1> Yeah
[13:54] <ochosi> this panel shows indicators that are actually quite useful
[13:54] <superm1> It never worked properly back then
[13:54] <ochosi> network, a11y and sound
[13:54] <ochosi> ah, interesting
[13:54] <ochosi> any idea why?
[13:54] <superm1> If you can get it working no opposition to it
[13:54] <superm1> It crashed when launched
[13:55] <superm1> Never investigated further
[13:55] <ochosi> it actually "just works"(TM) when activated now
[13:55] <superm1> Maybe it was some missing indicator package
[13:55] <superm1> That happens to be there now
[13:55] <ochosi> probably, i guess that that works now
[13:55] <ochosi> yeah
[13:55] <superm1> Like library that it needed
[13:56] <ochosi> just have to add some stuff to the seed, then it works ok
[13:56] <superm1> Ah yeah that makes sense then
[13:56] <ochosi> for some reason, the hicontrast theme didn't work yet, but i guess we'll figure that out
[13:56] <ochosi> (from the a11y indicator)
[13:56] <superm1> Go ahead and add same stuff to seed for us or even as depends on ubiquity if appropriate
[13:57] <superm1> Or point us at what needs adding to our seed
[13:57] <ochosi> ok, will do
[13:57] <ochosi> i guess the first step is a MR against ubiquity to get the panel to show up
[13:58] <ochosi> btw, did you also have the black background in the ubiquity standalone session? (i.e. "install" vs. "try and install")
[14:01] <ochosi> just wondering, i'm not really up to speed with mythbuntu's setup


[00:19] <pleia2> yay, someone is working on "In the Press" \o/
[00:25] <nlsthzn> :/ silly document keeps juming up and down making me loose my spot L:/
[00:25] <pleia2> sorry about that, I'm moving stuff over to the wiki
[00:26] <pleia2> great summaries, thank you
[00:28] <nlsthzn> oh ok... I thought I was even more tired than I feel :p
[00:28] <pleia2> hehe
[00:44] <nlsthzn> when akgraner finishes I think that is the lot pleia2
[00:45] <pleia2> woohoo!
[00:46]  * nlsthzn thinks we are all doomed when pleia2 and akgraner take ill or a caribbean cruise at the same time
[00:46] <akgraner> hehe no worries - we try not to be gone at the same time exceptions are UDS :-)
[00:46] <pleia2> I sleep well at night knowing doom does not actually occur if we miss a week every once in a while :)
[00:47] <nlsthzn> good to know :)
[00:47]  * nlsthzn goes to bed... 04:45 am is no time for being awake :p
[00:47] <pleia2> hehe
[00:47] <pleia2> good night!
[00:47] <akgraner> pleia2, yep the sun always rises :-)
[00:47] <akgraner> night and thank you!
[01:30] <akgraner> Ok if you all can read through it before in the morning that would be great.  I'll review one more time when I get up, so pleia2 has some more eyes on it as well
[01:31] <akgraner> everything has been moved to the wiki and the gdoc is set up for issue 263 now
[01:31] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue262
[01:43] <Unit193> Brainstorm and new members aren't right, will fix after rest of the review.
[01:45] <pleia2> you're not allowed to remove yourself from the new members list
[01:47] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[01:47] <Unit193> Fine, another than that the one other has an "x" on his LP link.
[01:47] <Unit193> (Not fine, but I'll comply. ;) )
[01:47] <pleia2> ahok, thanks :)
[01:48] <Unit193> "Lubuntu team are showing"?
[01:49] <pleia2> should be "is"
[01:49] <Unit193> Yep.
[01:49] <Unit193> Sorry, did you want to go through it? I can just let you do it. :P
[01:52] <akgraner> fixing brainstorm now - I just posted the link not the title to the idea  oops
[01:53] <pleia2> Unit193: oh no, go ahead
[01:54] <akgraner> what's wrong with new members
[01:54] <akgraner> I'm in the wiki now
[01:54] <pleia2> https://launchpad.net/~luisalvaradox shouldn't have an x at the end
[01:54] <pleia2> just https://launchpad.net/~luisalvarado
[01:55] <akgraner> ahh
[01:56] <akgraner> fixed
[01:56] <akgraner> saving now fixed the link and title on brainstorm as well
[01:58] <akgraner> is/are fixed as well - however in some cases team is considered plural so it's not always wrong to say team are - even though it does sound funny
[01:59] <Unit193> "Ubuntu-Friendly HP Cloud Enters Public Beta" parses oddly, too much time in terminal maybe.
[01:59] <akgraner> is that the title
[01:59] <pleia2> yeah
[01:59] <akgraner> if so we don't change the titles
[02:01] <akgraner> Unit193,  the titles we don't change, the summaries we try not to post our opinion, and only summarize or quote directly the article and not show favoritism or interject emotion which is hard sometimes when we are really jazzed about something
[02:01] <Unit193> No, was talking about the section.
[02:02] <akgraner> let me read back through it
[02:02] <Unit193> akgraner: Making notes, that's all. (And some I plan to go back and change, the links for example)
[02:03] <Unit193> OpenStack in Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS, newline for url?
[02:06] <akgraner> check no
[02:06] <akgraner> now
[02:06] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Security/20120416 for the security team (I'll fix)
[02:06] <akgraner> go for it - the other stuff should be fixed now though
[02:07] <akgraner> I'm out of the wiki now
[02:08] <akgraner> pleia2, I'll go back through it in the morning and double check the links etc with a fresh eyes  - night :-)
[02:09] <pleia2> night :)
[02:10] <Unit193> Right, and thanks for the HP one, I've just been too much in the terminal too it seems. :P
[02:11] <Unit193> Good to have someone else check as I'm bad at grammers and spellins. ;)
[09:07] <s-lion> howdy
[16:26] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: I'd say go ahead with translations, mrudge did a big review late last night
[17:19] <akgraner> pleia2, pull the Maverick stats if I included them - End of life was 10 April
[17:20] <pleia2> akgraner: oops :) I thought I had pulled that from the template, sorry
[17:20] <akgraner> no worries - I wasn't even thinking
[17:20] <akgraner> I was just happily typing codenames in
[17:20] <pleia2> hehe
[21:51] <Silverlion> evening
[22:13] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi, Silverlion!
[22:14] <Silverlion> hey JoseeAntonioR
[22:14] <JoseeAntonioR> Silverlion: how are you?
[22:15] <Silverlion> JoseeAntonioR: tired. about to leave for the bed
[22:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Silverlion: oh, have a good night, then! :)
[22:15] <Silverlion> but need to edit some screenshots for an article i submit for the Full Circle Magazine
[22:17] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha Silverlion
[22:18] <Silverlion> MrChrisDruif: ahola
[22:18] <MrChrisDruif> How goes it Silverlion ?
[22:18] <Silverlion> MrChrisDruif: still working
[22:18] <MrChrisDruif> On those screenshots?
[22:20] <pleia2> publishing now (ended up with a headache earlier, boo)
[22:20] <Silverlion> MrChrisDruif: affirmative
[22:36] <pleia2> doh, "Ubuntu nominated in top 5 Linux distros" isn't the article title :\
[22:39] <pleia2> fixed on wiki and fridge anyway
[22:39] <pleia2> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue262
[22:42] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: currently translating to spanish
[22:44] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: ok, feel free to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter to uncomment the line about the spanish translation when you're done
[22:44] <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks!
[22:44] <pleia2> I didn't include it in the email since the wiki page didn't exist yet (last week I included an "in progress" note, but without a page created that's tricky)
[22:46] <JoseeAntonioR> no problem, I know people will still look for it (if they read it!)
[23:09] <Unit193> Awesome, made a script that can check the doc for broken links!
[23:10] <pleia2> I used http://validator.w3.org/checklink but it hates the ubuntu wiki so would time out on all those links
[23:10] <pleia2> so it was terribly annoying to parse the output
[23:14] <Unit193> Yes! Works great so now I just link-check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue250
[23:18] <Unit193> It's really bad I'm sure, but if you either want it or want me to check them, I'd be glad too. (It works with wiki.ubuntu.com)
[23:18] <pleia2> if you could be our link checker that'd be great
[23:19] <Unit193> (I did that anyway for most, just this will hit them all much faster, may have to do a few more tests to make sure it is 100%)
[23:19] <akgraner> pleia2, need anything from me at the moment
[23:19] <pleia2> akgraner: nope, we're all set :) thanks
[23:20] <akgraner> great - just thought I'd check before I went back to work :-)


[03:56] <hatteram> hello all
[03:58] <Juzzy> sup you.
[05:04] <cyberanger> hello hatteram
[05:04] <cyberanger> goodbye hatteram
[05:05]  * cyberanger laughs at himself a little
[05:05] <Unit193> I was gonna wait a week before I did that.
[05:06] <cyberanger> You were going to wait a week to laugh at me?
[05:06] <Unit193> Nah, greet him!
[21:48]  * superfly laughs at a day old joke
[21:49]  * cyberanger is older than a day, however I guess at times I am a bit of a joke....
[23:22] <minasota> well, that was odd :)


[00:00] <greyback> hamax: note, I very much doubt we'll accept a patch for this. Design wouldn't like it
[00:00] <greyback> hamax: no prob :)
[00:00] <greyback> just ping me if you see me
[00:00] <hamax> greyback: oh, it just for my use case
[00:00] <greyback> hamax: yep grand, just thought I should mention it ;)
[00:01] <hamax> but I know some people that would want it in the options :P
[00:01] <greyback> lol why did I see that coming :D
[00:01] <hamax> hehe
[00:01] <greyback> ok I'm gonna pass out. Night all
[00:01] <hamax> night
[13:55] <jo-erlend> there's no session menu in the 12.04 lightdm greeter. How do I switch to another session? I'd like to test Unity 2D.
[13:59] <mhall119> jo-erlend: it's not where it was in 11.10?
[13:59] <jo-erlend> mhall119, it isn't at all.
[14:00] <mhall119> jo-erlend: ask in #ubuntu-unity
[14:00] <mhall119> we're phasing out this channel in favor of that one
[14:01] <jo-erlend> yes, I noticed that and did.
[14:02] <mhall119> cool
[15:21] <Andy80> hi
[18:50] <hamax> does anyone know where is ShowAllWorkspaces defined?
[18:50] <hamax> where is the code that generates this view
[18:55] <mhall119> hamax: please join #ubuntu-unity and ask there instead
[19:04] <hamax> mhall119: thanks
[19:12] <mhall119> tedg: how does an application author give "hints" to the HUD?
[19:12] <mhall119> also, please join #ubuntu-unity
[19:13] <tedg> mhall119, It's just a xml file that is put in /usr/share
[19:14] <tedg> mhall119, I think we might need to set up a pkgconfig rule or something for them.
[19:14] <tedg> mhall119, Though I haven't thought that far through it yet :-)
[19:30] <mhall119> tedg: I'm going to be working on a wiki page for HUD, can I include some info about that?
[19:31] <mhall119> I'll also be talking about it during ubuntu developer week next week
[19:33] <tedg> mhall119, Woot!
[19:33] <tedg> mhall119, So the best description (for normal people) that I have is in my blog post.
[19:33] <tedg> mhall119, You're ofcourse welcome to steal all of that.
[19:33] <tedg> mhall119, I think that we shoudl probably document a little more clearly what the parts are.
[19:34] <tedg> mhall119, I'm curious if we shouldn't make a script or a tool or something ot make the packaging/releasing of the files easier on developers
[19:34] <tedg> mhall119, I'm not sure what that'd look like though :-/
[19:35] <mhall119> tedg: it's definitely something we can talk to quickly devs about adding to their templates
[19:36] <mhall119> or makig a new debhelper script for it
[19:36] <tedg> mhall119, Oh, another thing that isn't documented anywhere you should know :-)  There's a "hud-verify-app-info" tool that will verify the files.
[19:45] <mhall119> is hud-cli something used by HUD devs/testers, or also for app developers
[19:50] <tedg> mhall119, devs/testers
[19:53] <mhall119> tedg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/HUD if you could fill in sections
[19:57] <mhall119> tedg: #ayatana is going to be shut down and redirected to #ubuntu-unity in the next day or two
[19:57] <mhall119> we're trying to move all conversation to that channel
[19:57] <tedg> :-/
[21:27] <bil21al> hey unity people a bug present i have installed the unity hud but i am not be able to report the bug it sayd  remove the third party  pakages.what i do ?
[21:58] <bernie> why not Super + cursor to switch virtual screens?
[21:59] <bernie> ctrl + alt is not used for much else in unity, it seems inconsistent
[22:01] <mhall119> bernie: probably for consistency with past versions of Ubuntu
[22:08] <bernie> mhall119: i guess compiz doesn't support setting two hotkeys for the same action :-/
[22:09] <mhall119> I don't think anything supports that
[22:10] <mhall119> oh wait, I have it backwards
[22:10] <mhall119> but still, Idon't think anything supports that
[22:10] <mhall119> gnome2 didn't, IIRC
[22:31] <bernie> mhall119: hey, would it be possible to make the workspace switcher icon go away if the expo plugin is not enabled in compiz?
[22:31] <bernie> on my desktop, it's just a dead icon that seems broken...
[22:31] <mhall119> bernie: I don't know, ask in #ubuntu-unity, that's where all the dicussion happens these days
[22:32] <bernie> mhall119: thanks
[22:32] <mhall119> np
[23:42] <bschaefer> jaytaoko, ping
[23:52] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: pong
[23:53] <bschaefer> jaytaoko, hey, how was your break and the sprint?
[23:53] <jaytaoko> was great!
[23:54] <jaytaoko> and the sprint was very good! to start the year!
[23:54] <bschaefer> awesome!
[23:54] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: how are you?
[23:54] <bschaefer> Good!
[23:55] <bschaefer> heard you had a branch out for TextEntry
[23:55] <bschaefer> hows getting the imcontext working in TextEntry?
[23:57] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: yes, I the code with an updated TextEntry and the imput method code. But I haven't been able to test the input method yet
[23:57] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: would you like to have a look?
[23:58] <bschaefer> jaytaoko, I would love to do that. As im working on another ibus bug and your code has the potential of removing this bug!
[23:59] <jaytaoko> bschaefer: ok, so let me prepare a branch and I will send it your way. thanks!
[23:59] <bschaefer> jaytaoko, did you have to use the IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE env var?
[23:59] <bschaefer> jaytaoko, and sweet!