[18:52] <storf> ikonia: Linux computer 2.6.32-22-server #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 20:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:52] <pharasoth> nvidia's oldest legacy driver is unsupported after 8.04
[18:52] <ikonia> storf: what is your machines hostname
[18:52] <nikitis> I need help setting up VNCServer with a changed port.    I have files from some guides that probably may be interfering with correct setups.  I need someone to hold my hand and help me fix this.
[18:53] <pharasoth> all i need this box for is fluxus with hardware enabled opengl
[18:53] <storf> computer
[18:53] <storf> cant you read ?
[18:53] <ikonia> storf: so explain the problem you're having
[18:53] <storf> are you trolling me ikonia ? I just told you
[18:53] <storf> and you ask useless hostname questions
[18:53] <storf> !admin
[18:53] <storf> !op
[18:53] <ikonia> storf: no, you didn't make sense with your question, so please try to explain it a little clearer
[18:53] <gnomefreak> ?
[18:53] <ikonia> storf: can I help ?
[18:53] <storf> yes
[18:54] <storf> kick ikonia
[18:54] <IdleOne> storf: please stop
[18:54] <gnomefreak> ikonia: feel free to take this one :)
[18:54] <ikonia> storf: please stop being silly, please explain your question clearly
[18:54] <storf> ok
[18:54] <storf> one sec
[18:54] <bock> IM having problems with viewing jpeg pics from my built in sd card reader. anyone know how to fix this?
[18:54] <bullgard4> '~$ ls -al /tmp/.ICE-unix; total 16; ... ; srwxrwxrwx  1 detlef detlef     0 2010-07-31 06:15 1255, ...' What does the file access permission 's' (first position) mean?
[18:55] <pharasoth> is anyone familiar with the cause of a graphical glitch around my cursor in opengl with nvidia drivers in ubuntu 8.04 lts??
[18:55] <ikonia> bullgard4: setuid
[18:55] <storf> ikonia: I cant use all amps on the card
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> nikitis:  i belive you could always give the port/options on teh command line and they will override any config file ssttings.
[18:55] <ikonia> pharasoth: you're not using the supported drivers, you'll need to take that up with nvidia
[18:55] <tensorpudding> anyone know how to cull non-existent files from banshee's database?
[18:55] <storf> I have ubuntu, believe me
[18:55] <ikonia> storf: all amps ?
[18:55] <rynne> hi everyone im relitivly new to using ubuntu this isnt my first time using it but this time i want to really understand how everything  works like the file structure of it and really how to run linux to its full potential
[18:55] <pharasoth> no i AM using the supported drivers
[18:55] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to setup vnc to load on boot before login, it's a vmware server guest.
[18:55] <storf> ikonia: not all amps
[18:55] <ikonia> pharasoth: oh, you're using the drivers from the hardware drivers package
[18:55] <anomaly> rynne get a copy of Rute and the Ubuntu 10.04 book.. both online and free
[18:55] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: but I've fouled it up big time
[18:55] <ikonia> storf: what do you mean all "amps"
[18:56] <storf> ikonia: I cant use the headphone amp
[18:56] <ikonia> storf: ok, the sound card
[18:56] <storf> am-pli-fier
[18:56] <pharasoth> ikonia yeah i am fresh install
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> nikitis:  you could do that from rc.local   or just ssh into the box and run it as needed.
[18:56] <daniele> welcom
[18:56] <rynne> anomaly thanx
[18:56] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: i'd prefer to not have to ssh first
[18:56] <storf> ikonia: are you sure you arent the one thats being silly? I asked about a xonar stx with ossv4, what would you think it is?
[18:56] <tensorpudding> anyone use banshee and know how to prune non-existent files from its library? rescanning doesn't seem to get rid of the dead files
[18:56] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: I plan on accessing it via my cell phone
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> nikitis:  there might be some info ouit ion doing it via upstart. but ive not done that job in ages.  rc.local can do it also, if you want it running as a specific user.
[18:57] <daniele> ciao .lista film
[18:57] <ikonia> storf: I don't know what an xonar stx is, and I don't know what osssv4 is, hence asking you to explain the problem
[18:57] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for your help.
[18:57] <storf> ossv4 is like version 4 of the open sound system or something like that
[18:57] <IdleOne> !attitude > storf
[18:57] <ikonia> storf: yes, I'm just reading now
[18:57] <storf> why are you admin here if you dont know linux
[18:57] <storf> ok thanks
[18:57] <jpds> storf: Does anyone?
[18:57] <danieldd> Hello. I know its not exactly the right place but I can't find anywhere else to ask this: Anyone knows where can I find a Java support chat?
[18:57] <storf> dont mind my english
[18:58] <kreme191> I just installed a webcam, the video works, but the audio is not working in skype. when i type "ls /dev/audio*" into terminal there is one extra audio device when the camera is plugged in then when it is not, i think ubuntu recognizes it, but i cannot find it in the skype options, is there another way to test it
[18:58] <eyoung101> Question:  I am a helper by nature, I want to install Ubuntu alongside Gentoo.  Gentoo uses GRUB2 and is already installed, and I see ubuntu uses GRUB2, so how do I install 10.04 into seperate partition without wiping out my current grub>
[18:58] <storf> IdleOne: what is your problem, are you from germany?
[18:58] <jordantbro> Anyone had the issue where items in a gnone desktop panel don't remember their position between reboots?  On 10.04.
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> danieldd:  #java perhaps?
[18:58] <ikonia> storf: I'm pretty confident with linux thanks, but your questions are just nonsense words, hence why I need clarification on your issue
[18:58] <gnomefreak> storf: please stop now.
[18:58] <storf> wtf
[18:58] <gnomefreak> storf: please stop now.
[18:58] <storf> ikonia:
[18:58] <danieldd> its an invite-only channel and I don't have an invitation
[18:58] <eyoung101> make tthat GRUB1 for gentoo
[18:59] <ikonia> eyoung101: the way ubuntu uses grub2 is not a useful layout with other dual booting distro combinations
[18:59] <pionar> eyoung101, when run the installation, you can choose to have ubuntu share the system with gentoo.  It'll take care of everything
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> danieldd:  MOST likely its a 'regiestered nick only' channel.
[18:59] <storf> ikonia: www.opensound.com OSS never heard of it?
[18:59] <ikonia> storf: yes, I'm aware of open sound
[18:59] <pharasoth> ikonia knowing that my cursor glitching is only in opengl apps, is it possible that using a different display manager could solve this?
[18:59] <IdleOne> storf: conform to our guidelines or I will remove you permanently. Thank you.
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  ubuntu can proberlyhande booting booth os's.
[18:59] <danieldd> Dr_Willis: Oh, Thank you, I'll try to register and check it again, I am a bit new at all this IRC stuff. Thank you.
[18:59] <storf> IdleOne: I dont understand the problem thank you and confirmed
[18:59] <ikonia> pharasoth: that's not a bad suggestion, I don't think it will work, but its certainly worth a look
[18:59] <Tux414> Hi all, I have an acer aspire 3810TZ. My microphone does not work. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[19:00] <storf> not everyone can speak the best english IdleOne, kicking without warning is a bit harsh
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> Tux414:  i would check the forums - Often they have specific tips for problems like that.
[19:00] <pharasoth> ikonia ive tried different window managers but that didn't work
[19:00] <eyoung101> do i need to choose install in mbr or into root /
[19:00] <josephseraos> Hi there.. Could you help me, please? How do I change the HOSTNAME's computer
[19:00] <Tux414> Dr_willis: I tried
[19:00] <josephseraos> sorry, Computer's HOSTNAME
[19:00] <storf> ikonia: so can you help me with getting the card t owork with oss? with ALSA I get static noise
[19:00] <bugre>  I'm use xchat, Crtl+s = viwer chanel list
[19:00] <ikonia> eyoung101: grub goes on the mbr
[19:00] <oCean_> josephseraos: Change /etc/hostname
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  i always put grub2 on my mbr.  Its normally smart enough to see/setup other disrtos.. iof course since you are a gentoo user. adding a propper entry to the grub2 menus shouldent be too hard for you. :)
[19:01] <xangua> storf: then try a channel with your native language
[19:01] <pionar> Tux414, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes has a fix
[19:01] <storf> ikonia: oss4 that is not the deprecated oss
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> !oss
[19:01] <storf> xangua: please be a bit more supportive
[19:01] <ikonia> storf: I'm aware of oss4 I'm just looking at the status in ubuntu's repo's now
[19:01] <bugre> danieldd: I'm use xchat, Crtl+s = viwer chanel list
[19:01] <storf> thanks ikonia
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[19:01] <IdleOne> storf: I did not remove you due to your English. I removed because of yuor bad attitude towards the helpers in this channel
[19:02] <ZykoticK9> bugre, really?  ctrl+s bring up Network List on my xchat
[19:02] <eyoung101> yes but Gentoo uses Grub 1 not grub 2
[19:02] <ikonia> storf:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[19:02] <ikonia> storf: have you checked the supported status of your card
[19:02] <Tux414> pionar: I will check it
[19:02] <bugre> sorry, its ok
[19:02] <Tux414> thanks
[19:02] <storf> IdleOne: I meant that maybe you mis understood what I meant
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  it dosent matter.. ubuntu and tye system will be using Grub2 to boot both os's - you wont want to let gentoo do any 'grub' work at all.
[19:02] <ikonia> storf: it does suggest not all cards have full support
[19:02] <bugre> ask error
[19:02] <storf> IdleOne: dont have to be so hard
[19:03] <kreme191> could someone help me get my microphone on my webcam working
[19:03] <magicianlord> kreme191: alsamixer -c0
[19:03] <storf> ikonia: yes but the alsa support is really ad
[19:03] <storf> bad
[19:03] <xangua> kreme191: did you check your sound settings¿¿
[19:03] <storf> alsa sucks basicly
[19:03] <FloodBot1> storf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <IdleOne> storf: My nationality has nothing to do with anything. You asking me if I am German was just your trollish way of saying I am being a nazi.
[19:03] <magicianlord> alsa is scratchy and shuts off
[19:03] <kreme191> xangue: how do i do that
[19:03] <ZykoticK9> eyoung101, so long as all goes as planned (it doesn't always ;)  grub2 should be able to automatically find both ubuntu & gentoo kernels for booting, and grub1 will no longer be required.  best of luck.
[19:03] <magicianlord> can ubuntu fix alsa please?
[19:04] <kreme191> xangue: i checked them on skype but it did not recognized the camera, yet the video works
[19:04] <storf> IdleOne: what?
[19:04] <storf> where are you talking about?
[19:04] <ikonia> storf: I understand alsa may not be your thing, but check the status of your card's support in oss4
[19:04] <IdleOne> I am done with you storf. I hope you can get the help you need.
[19:04] <ikonia> storf: it doesn't appear that oss4 is actually packaged into the ubuntu repos
[19:04] <xangua> magicianlord: ubuntu uses pulseaudio by defaul
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  sounds like an alsa bug. You did check the forums/bug reports? for your speicifc card and alsa?
[19:04] <bugre> Alt+ w, arrow down, enter = chanel list
[19:04] <ikonia> storf: it seems that 3rd parties package/maintain oss4 for ubuntu
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> !info oss4-base
[19:04] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: good spot, looks like the docs are out of date
[19:05] <gnomefreak> thats new
[19:05] <bullgard4> What is the function of the directory /tmp/.ICE-unix/ ? It includes a file  'srwxrwxrwx  1 detlef detlef     0 2010-07-31 06:15 1255' which designates the PID of my GNOME session. Does »ICE« stand for »Information_and_Content_Exchange" (specification)?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  yep. the docs are a bit old..
[19:05] <bugre> click in refresh and vewer list of chanel of chat
[19:05] <xangua> kreme191: use Tab to complete names, clic in the little sound icon>preferences
[19:05] <ZykoticK9> xangua, ubuntu uses pulseaudio which uses alsa for low level sound support.  just sayin'
[19:05] <storf> IdleOne: yes ikonia helped me perfectly. I dont see why you bully new people like this. You dont have to be elitist or something
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  i had to double check. I got so many extra ppa's installed. :)
[19:05] <raven> how to display foldersize with ls?
[19:05] <storf> ikonia: thanks for the help
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> raven:  use 'du
[19:05] <storf> i'll try to patch it
[19:05] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: yeah, I found a PPA too, saw nothing in main
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> raven:  or df.
[19:05] <storf> I found some pointers ikonia
[19:05] <kreme191> xangue: i'm in sound preferences and and when i test the device there is nothing
 click in refresh and vewer list of chanel of chat
[19:06] <storf> ikonia: I read here that I might have to patch my PCI ID
[19:06] <ikonia> storf: doubtful, but if you think it will help
[19:06] <raven> Dr_Willis, only the size of all file of one single folder
[19:06] <xcthulhu> Hi!  I
[19:06] <eyoung101> so I should let ubuntu handle the booting, as such do i need to put ubuntus kernel and image in my gentoo boot partition?  hda1= windows, ditching 4 ubuntu hda2=/boot hda3=/ hda4=swap
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> raven:  not sure on what you mean.. but du has dozens of options
[19:06] <xcthulhu> I'm trying to wite a daemon that moves a *.tsv file every time one gets dumped into a folder
[19:07] <storf> ikonia: yes it is because my card is not in the driver or ssomething, but the driver should support it
[19:07] <raven> Dr_Willis, du always runs every folder
[19:07] <storf> the normal xonar is in it
[19:07] <xcthulhu> I'm wondering if anybody knows something that already does this
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  use of /boot/ partitions are a bit 'old skool' these days.
[19:07] <ikonia> eyoung101: you're going to have a mass ammount of problems, as gentoo's updates will want to update menu.lst, on the gentoo disk, and ubuntu will want to use grub2 in /etc on the ubuntu disk, neither will be aware of each other
[19:07] <storf> thank you ikonia
[19:07] <ZykoticK9> eyoung101, ehhh.  i wouldn't want to comment on your rather complex setup.  you might want to ask in the gentoo irc channel for advice as well.  good luck man.
[19:07] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: they used to work for dual boot situations, but with ubuntu's grub2 layout, it's a real pain now
[19:07] <Dr_Willis>  du -hs bin/
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> 13Mbin/
[19:07] <ohir> raven: man du. du -sh /top/path to get summary size
[19:08] <raven> Dr_Willis, ohir that's it tnx
[19:08] <eyoung101> is there a way i can make ubuntu use grub 1?
[19:08] <lathan> hi, i had a question, if someone could offer some insight
[19:08] <ikonia> eyoung101: sure, look at the grub-legacy package
[19:08] <ohir> raven: any command you have on terminal has its manual
[19:09] <ohir> raven: man command will give you quick insight into
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> It pays to read the man pages.. :) or command --help
[19:09] <guydoingstuff> having trouble with grub2 and booting.  In a live cd session and fdisk -l is not seeing one of my HDs
[19:09] <raven> ohir du not ;)
[19:09] <kreme191> xangue: fixed it, thanx
[19:09] <xangua> sudo apt-get install grub eyoung101
[19:09] <xangua> i don't know if that removes grub2 package or if you have to do something else
[19:10] <xangua> kreme191: better use Tab to auto-complete names
[19:10] <guydoingstuff> cant install grub to a drive i cant find
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  what are you going to gain by using grub1 on both os's ?
[19:10] <ZykoticK9> guydoingstuff, grub2 is separate from hd detection.  if "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't list your device you might want to have a look through "dmesg" and see what the kernel is saying (if anything) about your HDs.  Is the HD seen in BIOS?
[19:10] <xcthulhu> Hmm... well, just in case someone ever runs across a log of this IRC chat through google or something, the answer to my question is that I want to use "watch"
[19:10] <kreme191> xangue: what do u mean auto complete names
[19:10] <guydoingstuff> HD is seen in bios
[19:11] <eyoung101> can i get that during the install?  if i use grub 1 i can chainload ubuntu from Gentoo
[19:11] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, can you find the related device in /dev?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> eyoung101:  you can proberly chainload with grub2 also.. or let grub2 handle the whold booting prlcess and not chainload.
[19:11] <guydoingstuff> i see it, should be dev/sda
[19:11] <guydoingstuff> dont really know what to do with it there though
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> grub2 manages to see all the other disrtos on my systems. which can cause issues. It added meny entries for the USB hard drive isntalls  las ttimne
[19:12] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, do you have a /dev/sda1 or 2
[19:13] <lathan> so, i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[19:13] <eyoung101> i understand what i can and cant do with grub 2 but i have issues b/c im using an old school setup as mentioned earlier
[19:13] <guydoingstuff> youre right.  I do not see it.  sdb2-5 are there... I only see sda with no numbers following it
[19:13] <josephseraos> oCean_, To change, do I need restart pc?
[19:13] <ZykoticK9> eyoung101, there are some advanced grub options during an install (sorry not familiar with exactly what is there, other then install to different location) but i doubt grub1 is available... at that point.  perhaps selecting not to install grub might be an option?
[19:13] <Kungfood> hello all
[19:13] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, something happened to you partition table then
[19:14] <oCean_> josephseraos: you can set is for now using the hostname command (hostname mynewhostname). Editing /etc/hostname will make it persistent at reboots
[19:14] <guydoingstuff> reinstall?
[19:14] <Kungfood> ultimate *nix nub here, having issues with ubuntu netbook
[19:14] <om26er> Kungfood, explain
[19:14] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, can you remember how the disk was patitioned ?
[19:14] <nimbiotics> How do I delete the compiz config files? TIA!
[19:15] <lathan> can anyone help with my question?
[19:15] <Kungfood> i installed 10.04 netbook edition on an old toshiba laptop (just a a place to learn linux, it was a free laptop) i cant seem to get the screen to display correctly, it have a black border and inch or two thick around it\
[19:15] <frenchy> im trying to boot from a live cd and all i get at the bottom there is an icon that looks something like a film strip maybe, its rectangular and a circle with a person in it
[19:16] <frenchy> does anyone know what this means
[19:16] <guydoingstuff> yeah.  it is a 150 hd.  first 80gb are ubuntu 10.04.  40-50gb are ntfs xp sp3.  remaining ext 3 i think
[19:16] <bullgard4> What is the function of the /tmp/.ICE-unix directory? Does "ICE" here mean »Information_and_Content_Exchange" (specification)?
[19:16] <guydoingstuff> frenchy, use a serial keyboard and hit any key
[19:16] <Kungfood> i have checked the packages, and the correct package IS installed, for the trident driver
[19:16] <gnomefreak> Kungfood: it is best to use normal installer for laptops. netbook installer for netbooks
[19:16] <guydoingstuff> if it is a usb keyboard it might not recognize keystorkes
[19:17] <frenchy> guydoingstuff, ahh why cant you boot with usb keyboard? just curious
[19:17] <Kungfood> when i go to ch3eck the available resolutions though, 800x600 is the highest it will give me
[19:17] <guydoingstuff> i have no idea
[19:17] <ZykoticK9> Kungfood, i'd recommend desktop over NBE if you have the room, NBE is very "limited".  Good luck man.  the screen issue sounds like graphics drivers, "lspci | grep -i vga" to find you video card ;)
[19:17] <lukafulmine> hi
[19:17] <lukafulmine> i want to tell a question
[19:17] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, try this guide
[19:17] <Barnabas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[19:17] <guydoingstuff> usb will work fine once you are in though
[19:17] <Barnabas> Under lost partition
[19:17] <lukafulmine> i have installed mozilla thunderbird i have add 2 mail
[19:17] <Kungfood> ive got the iso for the regualr 10.04, but i wanted to sort this out first, reason being is that when it was an xp machine, it had the same issue until i got the right driver installed
[19:18] <lukafulmine> 1 hotmail and 1 gmail
[19:18] <guntbert> !enter | lukafulmine
[19:18] <josephseraos> oCean_, If I change file /etc/hostname, will it change in hosts too?
[19:18] <ZykoticK9> Kungfood, trident ;)  good luck man.
[19:18] <magicianlord> Kungfood: what issue
[19:18] <guntbert> !hostname | josephseraos
[19:18] <Kungfood> lol yeah
[19:18] <oCean_> josephseraos: nope, you have to change that too
[19:18] <Kungfood> i figure fixing this will teach me a bit about linux :)
[19:19] <lathan> can anyone help with my question? i can type it again if need be
[19:19] <Kungfood> can i msg someone so i wont lose responses in the flood?
[19:19] <lukafulmine> but when i add the second account of gmail appears this answer:"incorrect username or password",but the username and password it's correct what's happened
[19:19] <ZykoticK9> Kungfood, i hope the lesson doesn't end up being how poor linux supports Trident graphics chips ;)
[19:19] <guntbert> !pm | Kungfood
[19:19] <gnomefreak> lathan: ask again please
[19:19] <lathan> so, i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[19:19] <xangua> lukafulmine: gmail pop or imap¿¿ you first need to go to gmail web and enable one of those
[19:19] <headkase314> lathan: Possible solution.  Install Ubuntu to the hard drive.  Then boot off the SD card and mount the Ubuntu HD.  Then copy the files over and reboot into the Ubuntu HD.
[19:20] <Kungfood> ha, well i have been readin a bit a bout that...i did find a solution that involves editing the xorg.conf file, except that the file does not exist on my system...
[19:20] <xangua> lathan: just coppy your home
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  you can mount the persistantce file  and copy files from it. via the proper 'mount' command
[19:20] <guntbert> Kungfood: you can tell your irc client to not show the joins/parts -- so the screen will not scroll so fast
[19:20] <Kungfood> ok
[19:21] <frenchy> ok unplugging the USB keyboard i still get the icon and when i press enter its just a black screen with a cursor flasshing at the top
[19:21] <lathan> does /home contain all my changes?
[19:21] <twoeightone> My CD/DVD drive doesnt respond anymore after I've installed Ubuntu.  I am dualbooting, so it works just fine in Windows.  Anyone experienced something like this?
[19:21] <ZykoticK9> lathan, this isn't really what you are asking about but it's probably a lot easer to fresh install and simply backup you homedirectory files/settings and use !clone to reinstall apps.  good luck.
[19:21] <ZykoticK9> !clone | lathan
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  /home is where your users files are at.  not sure what you mean about 'changes'
[19:21] <pjc> boas onde posso descarrgar o tema do ubuntu 9.10 (aquele amarelo)
[19:21] <headkase314> lathan: All your settings are in /home some of them are hidden by having a . before the file name
[19:21] <mikebeecham> I wonder if anyone can explain this to me....I just did an update, which seemed to have corrupted my video drivers.  I could not enable desktop effects and the only way I could repair the damage was to revert back to Nvidia drivers 173 - Can anyone help me understand why?
[19:22] <guntbert> !pt | pjc
[19:22] <lathan> by changes, i meant my installed programs and such
[19:22] <pjc> ok
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  the perisstant save file has all the 'changes' -  your USERS setings will be in the /home dir on that pereisant file.
[19:23] <frenchy> guydoingstuff, unplugging the usb and using serial does the same thing
[19:23] <Kungfood> so if i know that i have the trident package installed, but i still see no xorg.conf file..what do i do?
[19:23] <lathan> okay, thanks everyone. i'll try it out later today
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> lathan:   if you want to reinstall all the same apps. use that 'clone' factoid info.  then copuy the files from the persisnats /home/ to your actual home.
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> Kungfood:  X auto configures for the most part these day. No xorg.conf needed for most people
[19:23] <gnomefreak> guntbert: please use !bleh > nick instead of |
[19:24] <magicianlord> when you install xorg and nouveau at the same time, do you absolutely need to configure xorg.conf or is this optional for a single screen setup with native resolution?
[19:24] <lathan> okay, thanks
[19:24] <guydoingstuff> frenchy, then it must be tied to bios.  WHen I get that icon you described, I have to either wait a minute for the installer session to kick in or use a serial keyboard
[19:24] <alexander_> err... ebook reader and calibre wont open an ebook... it's just blank i guess
[19:24] <josephseraos> guntbert, When I set hostname, do I need restart pc?
[19:24] <Kungfood> is it possible to make an xorg.conf for just the purpose of configuring for this driver?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  somnthing is not clear.. xorg uses nouveau, for nvidia cards..   and you dont need a xorg.conf normally these days
[19:24] <zack1> I just installed 10.04 on a new hard drive i got for my laptop. Upon booting I recieve this error "error:out of disk." and i have a prompt that says "grob rescue>" is there something wrong with the harddrive or grub?
[19:24] <axisys> how do take a snapshot or memory of your system in linux? is solaris you run uadmin 5 0 to panic it and that saves the memory/kernel and dump into a disk
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> Kungfood:  you could make one if yiou wanted to
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> Kungfood:  my nvidia-settings tool makes one with a few settings in it for my systems.
[19:25] <guntbert> josephseraos: I would say no need for restarting
[19:25] <alexander_> the only reason i installed linux was to /open this ebook and it wont work/ can anyone possibly help?
[19:26] <Kungfood> i guess i will go ahead and reinstall with desktop, then try and tackle this again
[19:26] <gnomefreak> alexander_: you would have to aska  question before anyone can think about helping you
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> alexander_:  theres ebook readers for windows I imagine.. but if it has some sort of DRM/protection on the ebook.. well.. that limits what you can do
[19:26] <alexander_> yeah... basically ebook reader and calibre don't open it
[19:26] <alexander_> and the barnes and noble program crashes
[19:26] <frenchy> guydoingstuff it goes away then i just get a black screenw ith a blinking cursor
[19:26] <gnomefreak> ah i missed his question
[19:27] <magicianlord> Dr_Willis: so i can install nouveau and not configure anything?
[19:27] <gnomefreak> magicianlord: it is installed for you
[19:27] <zack1> after installing 10.04 on a new hard drive for my laptop, I recieve this error "error:out of disk." upon booting. i have a prompt that says "grub rescue>" I'm at a loss as to what to do. I was also having problems installing xp as well. Is it the hard drive?
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> magicianlord:  nouveau is imnstalled by default I thought. My nvidia cards DONT work right with it.. and it does seem to be the default
[19:27] <gnomefreak> magicianlord: install the nvidia drivers from jockey-gtk
[19:27] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: it is but no 3D support
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak:  it barely works with 2d on my box. :) has a lot of other issues also.
[19:28] <lopek> i installed 'libircclient' library from ubuntu repository, tried to compile some example code and received this: http://pastebin.com/9pHzmKcx
[19:29] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: it does and always will. nididia doesnt really "support"(lack of better word) it
[19:29] <alexander_> i'm just going to call barnes and noble n try to get my money back
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> alexander_:  good luck with that.
[19:29] <alexander_> yeah fat chance eh
[19:29] <Barnabas> lopek, you need the development files to with your library
[19:29] <NemesisD> how to i get a startup script to run at boot (without using some gui tool to do so)
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> One of the many reasons i dont do 'e-books;'
[19:29] <Barnabas> they are also in the repository
[19:29] <josephseraos> guntbert, When I changed hostname, My pc continues with old hosname
[19:30] <gnomefreak> restart than
[19:30] <lopek> Barnabas well, i've installed libbircclient-dev
[19:30] <lopek> hmm
[19:30] <headkase314> alexander_: Regarding DRM -> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/
[19:31] <alexander_> thanks headkase314 i'll take down the url
[19:31] <Barnabas> lopek, then the sourcecode is not compatible with the version of your library
[19:31] <sharif> Hello
[19:31] <sharif> How to open terminal as admin ?
[19:31] <zack1> Upon booting I get the an "error: out of disk." message. What does this indicate?
[19:31] <bastid_raZor> sharif: in a terminal type: sudo -i
[19:31] <guntbert> josephseraos: you mean the prompt in the terminal? like joseph@oldhost ? just try to open a new terminal window
[19:31] <headkase314> alexander_: You're welcome, it's an offshoot of GNU philosophy -> http://www.gnu.org/  GNU is a big part of Linux and Ubuntu
[19:31] <gnomefreak> lopek: did you try sudo apt-get build-deps <packagename>
[19:32] <nikitis> Does vmware server automatically use port 5900 for remote connections?
[19:32] <Netsan> hey guys, have some question
[19:32] <gnomefreak> Netsan: ask it please
[19:32] <Netsan> some friend of my bought some netbook that ubuntu was install on him from start.
[19:32] <Netsan> from default i mean,
[19:32] <guntbert> sharif: you usually don't do/need that
[19:32] <Netsan> and the user is: user, but he dont know the password
[19:32] <tensorpudding> does ubuntu come with an MTA?
[19:32] <Netsan> any idea?
[19:32] <lopek> gnomefreak i didn't, i'm not really in compilation ;)
[19:32] <gnomefreak> Netsan: please keep it on 1 line
[19:32] <Netsan> sorry.
[19:33] <magicianlord> Netsan: just reinstall it
[19:33] <josephseraos> guntbert, well, when I open a new terminal, it was change, but on LAN, my pc didn't change
[19:33] <WetWired_ALUG2> Is there a way to disable fullscreen on the desktop? I'd like 2" black borders around the display.
[19:33] <Netsan> magicianlord: no other idea?
[19:33] <gnomefreak> Netsan: it will be easier to reinstall
[19:33] <gnomefreak> Netsan: ask the seller of it
[19:33] <Netsan> i know, but he dont know how to do it
[19:33] <magicianlord> Netsan: maybe it's 'user' or none. or you can boot into it from a live flash stick and add another user
[19:33] <mikebeecham> ...and does anyone know how to root a 2.2 rom on the Galaxy?
[19:33] <gnomefreak> what he used but he should have never sold it without giveing a password
[19:34] <sharif> How to go to filesystem in terminal ?
[19:34] <gnomefreak> sharif: what dir are you looking for
[19:34] <sharif> var directory
[19:34] <psycho_oreos> cd /var
[19:34] <gnomefreak> sharif: you start in $HOME
[19:34] <guntbert> josephseraos: that part "but on LAN, my pc didn't change" was not clear for me, what did you try?
[19:34] <moesian> Hello I'm trying to run a command in my maya bin directory called mayapy. I get the following when I try to execute it: "mayapy: command not found". I can see the command there. How would I go about resolving this?
[19:34] <magicianlord> Netsan: can you do it for him
[19:35] <WetWired_ALUG2> Is there a way to disable fullscreen on the desktop? I'd like 2" black borders around the display.
[19:35] <psycho_oreos> moesian, it might not be in $PATH
[19:35] <sharif> to write $home
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> moesian:  the command has a : in its name? that dosent seem right.
[19:35] <ilovefairuz> moesian: ./mayapy
[19:35] <Barnabas> moesian, chmod o+x mayapy perhaps
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> moesian:  or is it in the current directory?  (im missreading i think)
[19:35] <josephseraos> a local web
[19:35] <josephseraos> LAN
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> moesian:  the 'current directory' is not in the default path. thats why you need the ./command syntax
[19:36] <josephseraos> guntbert, Local Area Network
[19:36] <ilovefairuz> moesian: that's if you're in the directory of the command, if you're not, type the full path, like /opt/maya/bin/mayapy
[19:36] <guntbert> josephseraos: yes :-), but how did you try to reach your pc over the LAN?
[19:37] <lopek> gnomefreak i've tried, no difference
[19:37] <moesian> Dr_Willis: ./mayapy worked thankyou, I was in the directory
[19:37] <josephseraos> guntbert, on a windows station
[19:37] <TechMiX> Hi all! is there a way to find out what is playing on rhythmbox right now?! i mean maybe it's stored in a file or smthing
[19:37] <josephseraos> guntbert, I put \\myNewHost
[19:38] <josephseraos> guntbert, Then I can't connect, but with \\oldHostName I got it
[19:38] <kushalsejwal> I have a brand new laptop 320GB , want to install ubuntu in it, no dual boot with windows! How to do the ideal paritioning? (also how many primary and logical paritioN?)
[19:39] <chrissharp123> !partitioning | kushalsejwal
[19:39] <josephseraos> guntbert, understand?
[19:40] <guntbert> josephseraos: ah I see .. you windows machine doesn't know about the new name - windows networking is (for me) a rather complicated thing - try to restart your ubuntu machine (as you said earlier) - that could help
[19:40] <sharif> How to set permissions on var/www files ?
[19:40] <bquadra> hi
[19:40] <ilovefairuz> TechMiX: you can get it through a dbus call
[19:41] <TechMiX> ilovefairuz: could you explain more?
[19:42] <josephseraos> guntbert, OK.. I'll try restart to see. Would be great don't need to restart, right?
[19:42] <harmandeep> hi Guys
[19:42] <harmandeep>  need help with VMware Workstation with windows Guests on a Linux Host ...
[19:42] <harmandeep> on UBUNTU Host
[19:42] <sharif> Is this correct : chmod -R 660 /var/www/folder/
[19:42] <harmandeep> problem is regarding plugging USB Devices IN and OUT of VM
[19:42] <harmandeep> I am able to PLUG-IN USB Devices in Windows Guest without any problem , but when i DISCONNECT those devices , they don't work on Linux HOST
[19:43] <harmandeep> what you need to do is to not DISCONNECT those devices physically, but to use the DISCONNECT button to make it visible back on linux HOST
[19:43] <ilovefairuz> TechMiX: many application provide a cross-application accessible interface called dbus, through which you can call code of another application, rythembox providesa dbus interface to make other application capable of communicating with it, this is an example of using it for pidgin http://blog.viamentis.com/articles/tag/pidin-rhythmbox-dbus-ipc/
[19:43] <Barnabas> sharif, you probably do not want the same permissions on directories and folders
[19:43] <headkase314> TechMix: enter: "rhythmbox-client --print-playing" at a console without the quotes
[19:44] <guntbert> josephseraos: yes it would be great, but that is not a problem of ubuntu but of the "master browser" not updating its data
[19:44] <Barnabas> sharif, find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; will find all directories and set them to something reasonable
[19:44] <theclaw> Hi. I'm using a encrypted root filesystem, it's been encrypted by the ubuntu installed. Is there any documentation on how I have to set up a new hard disk so that ubuntu can boot from it?
[19:45] <theclaw> *by the ubuntu installer
[19:45] <Barnabas> for files  find /var/www -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[19:45] <TechMiX> ilovefairuz: thank you very much, usefull info. didnt notice dbus at all.
[19:45] <ilovefairuz> TechMiX: you're welcome
[19:45] <TechMiX> headkase314: seems easy! thank you
[19:46] <dummy> Hello. Could you please tell me where VLC expects the channels.conf file?
[19:46] <sharif> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[19:46] <headkase314> TechMix: You're welcome!  That command would be useful for scripts.. ;)
[19:47] <sharif> Barnabas, find: missing argument to `-exec'
[19:50] <sharif> im not sure why
[19:50] <Flecha> Does anyone hows a software for energy management of a group of computers? Something that, installed in the server, will shutdown the machines that are not been used.
[19:50] <Flecha> knows*
[19:50] <kb3ien> any idea how to make my X sessions persistant accross heads?
[19:51] <kb3ien> i'd like to be able to change user A to B on head1 and then login as A again on head2 and reattach the same session.
[19:52] <Barnabas> sharif the \; in the end is very important
[19:52] <hspaans> Flecha: check the power management settings in GNOME
[19:53] <guydoingstuff> having an issue with a lost partition.  following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Lost%20Partition
[19:54] <guydoingstuff> fdisk does not see drive.  BIOS does.  guide does not work because drive is not seen in live session
[19:54] <Flecha> hspaans, but I would like to use a neural network for this. So on some moments it would leave more machines on, because those moments use to have more people
[19:56] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, have you been fiddeling with the partition table, or has this come about by itself ? It could be a disk error. And then you would be better of making a dump of the disk to a file
[19:57] <josephseraos> guntbert, the "hostname" command didn't change the hostname
[19:57] <kishajos> is there anyone who plays or played CSS on Ubuntu?
[19:57] <guydoingstuff> Barnabas, everything is backedup.  I fiddle with the machine alot.  advanced newb class?  underlying issue was something with grub2
[19:57] <guntbert> josephseraos: did you edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts ?
[19:57] <guydoingstuff> NOw I can reinstall
[19:57] <guydoingstuff> i cant I mean
[19:58] <josephseraos> guntbert, no, I didn't
[19:58] <livingdaylight> what is the command line to install something with wine, please?
[19:58] <guydoingstuff> why would bios see the HD and ubuntu does not?
[19:58] <llutz> livingdaylight: wine foo.exe
[19:58] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, the first thing is to determine if there is anything important on the disk you need
[19:58] <livingdaylight> llutz, cheers
[19:58] <guntbert> josephseraos: you should have - ubottu told you about it
[19:58] <Barnabas> if not reinstall
[19:58] <guntbert> !hostname > josephseraos
[19:58] <frenchy> is it possible to use nvidia drivers on a livecd?
[19:59] <josephseraos> guntbert, I thought the hostname command would do it
[19:59] <HeadAche> hello. would anyone be able to help with (livecd) install to a ssd (shell, fdisk)?
[19:59] <romanrishafk> has anyone successfully set up ubuntu to act as a media extender to the xbox360
[19:59] <romanrishafk> other than just music
[20:00] <guydoingstuff> i can reinstall.  Nothing important that cant be accessed somewhere else. I love backintime app.
[20:00] <guntbert> josephseraos: no, that was only temporary, please follow the advice from ubottu
[20:00] <guydoingstuff> Now I cant reinstall.  I doesnt see the drive
[20:00] <guydoingstuff> bios does
[20:00] <Barnabas> guydoingstuff, you should test the disk then
[20:00] <arek> helo..
[20:01] <headkase314> romanrishafk: I have, using uShare.  uShare is in the Ubuntu repositories.  It needs to be run in a console when you need it with: "ushare -t -x".  It is picky about the file formats for video, xvid/mp3 works well for the format.
[20:01] <Barnabas> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<disk> THIS WILL WHIPE THE DISC CLEAN
[20:01] <abhijit> any help regarding my issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542391
[20:01] <guydoingstuff> take it out and put it in an external HD case...?
[20:01] <romanrishafk> headkase314: and this is compatible w/ 360
[20:01] <josephseraos> guntbert, Oh.. I didn't pay atention
[20:01] <josephseraos> :-)
[20:01] <Barnabas> And it will take a while
[20:02] <guntbert> josephseraos: :)
[20:02] <headkase314> romanrishafk: It is compatible with 360 when you use the "-x" command option.  It does NOT transcode the file formats though so your source files have to be in a format that the 360 accepts.
[20:03] <sharif> how also to make the files and directories to be chomd
[20:03] <romanrishafk> headkase314: thanks for the info
[20:03] <anomaly> any recommendations for text to speech on linux?
[20:03] <nikitis> I like seriously need help with VNC!    I can't find anything useful on this subject.  I want to connect via vnc to my vmware guest ubuntu on port 5904.  Why can't I do this without first logging into gnome?  It won't let me do it before I log into gnome.
[20:03] <raven> CP how to skip existing files
[20:04] <guydoingstuff> thanks barnabas
[20:05] <raven> CP how to skip existing files
[20:05] <headkase314> romanrishafk: you're welcome, there is also: http://www.getdeb.net/software/Fuppes Fuppes from GetDeb but I have no experience with that!
[20:06] <Mike_Flip> where would I find the inf file for the b43xx driver on an acer aspire 5000?
[20:06] <kanito> que tal
[20:06] <Barnabas> romanrishafk, I successfully use mediatomb
[20:06] <Barnabas> FreeBSD -> ubuntu and DNLA enabled tv
[20:07] <kanito> alguien por ah
[20:07] <czr_> hi all. is anyone aware of a backup-program that was designed for remote storage with encryption (when one doesn't trust the remote storage provider like S3 or similar)
[20:07] <tensorpudding> !es | kanito
[20:08] <kanito> ok
[20:08] <daniele> buona sera..è la prima volta che uso x chat
[20:08] <daniele> vorrei sapere per scaricare i film dove devo andare
[20:09] <HeadAche> need installation help (fdisk / alignment). if you can help, please let me know.
[20:09] <nikitis> How does one setup a remote login nowadays with 10.04?  Since xdmcp has been obliterated?
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> nikitis: NX?
[20:10] <nikitis> ilovefairuz: what is that?
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> HeadAche: pastebin fdisk -l
[20:10] <josephseraos> guntbert, I got it
[20:10] <josephseraos> guntbert,  thank you
[20:10] <ilovefairuz> nikitis: http://code.google.com/p/neatx/
[20:11] <guntbert> josephseraos: you're welcome :-)
[20:11] <nikitis> ilovefairuz: So is VNC like obsolete?
[20:11] <ilovefairuz> nikitis: not but a lot less efficient
[20:12] <RealOpty> ilovefairuz, whats better than vnc?
[20:12] <nikitis> ilovefairuz: is there a way to connect via your android phone through NX?
[20:12] <KrisKo> RealOpty: try nxserver
[20:12] <ilovefairuz> RealOpty: very compressed
[20:12] <RealOpty> how come when i try to deactivate my screensaver it freezes up the screen and the mouse flickers, and no popup to login?
[20:12] <ilovefairuz> !it | daniele
[20:12] <RealOpty> nice
[20:13] <abhijit> how can i make cairo dock only start at startup in gnome session and not in kde session?
[20:13] <RealOpty> might i add im using nvidia drivers
[20:14] <josephseraos> guntbert, Hey, I sent you a private message. Could you answer me, please?
[20:14] <kushalsejwal> I want to make a separate partition to put my data like music, video etc into it so that it get backup and won't get erased in future clean install. What should I di?
[20:15] <daniele> grazie...
[20:15] <th_> I have a dual screen setup. I was wondering if its possible to expand menu bar to second screen
[20:15] <ilovefairuz> czr_: deja-dup
[20:15] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, you can have your separate /home
[20:15] <RealOpty> KrisKo, hmmm so nomachine is great for VNC? seems to be kinda a little too much just for remote desktop
[20:16] <dadawg> can anyone help me with a samba problem?
[20:16] <dadawg> when I run the findsmb command nothing appears
[20:16] <hazard> With this installation, I thought I'd try using more defaults, so I stuck with the Transmission torrent client that was installed "out of the box" so to speak.
[20:16] <hazard> ANybody happen to know how to get Transmission reporting stats to the trackers?
[20:16] <czr_> ilovefairuz, can it be automated via cron without requiring a graphical login or X at all?
[20:17] <ilovefairuz> RealOpty: nomachine is not VNC, but similar in purpose though not identical, it's more like remote GDM logins
[20:17] <RealOpty> ah
[20:17] <kushalsejwal> abhijit, I have bought a new laptop today 320 GB please guide me what should be the ideal paritions?
[20:17] <ilovefairuz> czr_: it's a GUI application, if you want something scriptable, try rsync or scp
[20:18] <nikitis> i'm trying to get some kind of remote login working.
[20:18] <nikitis> i'm having no luck
[20:18] <frenchy> does anyone here have an nvidia card and are using tvout/component out?
[20:18] <nikitis> this NX seems to have to download and compile from svn
[20:18] <abhijit> !pm | kushalsejwal
[20:18] <czr_> ilovefairuz, neither rsync nor scp work for this, but I foudn out that deja-dup uses duplicity under the hoods and it looks like more what I'm looking for. thanks for the hint.
[20:18] <kushalsejwal> abhijit, okay :(
[20:19] <dadawg> nvm apparently I had to use "Connect to Server"
[20:19] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, i will tell you. but i dont have any solid reason for that scheme. better you ask someone else or decide yourself.
[20:19] <ilovefairuz> !paste > HeadAche
[20:19] <josephseraos> guntbert, Ok. You was great! Tnaks a lot! See you
[20:19] <guntbert> josephseraos: have a nice time
[20:20] <kushalsejwal> abhijit, please share, I will then decide for myself :)
[20:20] <ResQue> i am following a tutorial on how to use pgp, i understand how to encrypt messages, but i would like to know how i can sign the message i send, so the receiver knows its from me
[20:20] <ResQue> do i just sign the file after its encrypted
[20:21] <ResQue> detach0sign?
[20:21] <tensorpudding> ResQue: are you using gpg from the command line, or from in a program?
[20:21] <ResQue> detach-sign*
[20:21] <ResQue> tensorpudding: command line
[20:21] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, the simplest is using all disk for '/'. thats the easient to install and maintain too. another one is having your /home on different partition. now it may be renge in 40-50gb as per your need. i generally need 70gb. remaining you can assing to /
[20:21] <daniele> server film
[20:21] <tensorpudding> gpg --sign is used for signing
[20:22] <evud> Hello. I have ubuntu 9.1 with Eclipse installed on it. I updated all the packages and now whenever I open Eclipse it crashes, any ideas what to do?
[20:22] <abhijit> kushalsejwal, this might help you though the article seems old: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/apcs03.html
[20:22] <tensorpudding> evud: try opening eclipse from inside a terminal and pastebin the error message
[20:23] <kushalsejwal> abhijit: okay
[20:23] <ResQue> tensorpudding: i see, so i can sign a message to prove its form me, or sign a public key in my db to prove its legit. is that right?
[20:23] <evud> tensorpudding: here is the message http://vargof.pastebin.com/0YYs52Nt and here is the file with more information about the error http://vargof.pastebin.com/3Ei8Ng1D
[20:23] <subcool> Hey, i just goofed- I was trying to install tigervnc, and in the process i somehow uninstall xserver-common ... which appears to have uninstalled a bunch of stuff, but when i try to sudo apt-get install xserver-common, it fails
[20:23] <tensorpudding> ResQue: yes
[20:24] <ResQue> tensorpudding: thank i was getting a little confused, with it being used for more than one task, but it makes sense now signing  thank you
[20:25] <guydoingstuff> @barnabas.  I think it is a bad HD.  I popped it out and tried getting the liove session to see it as an external hd.  it did not work
[20:25] <HeadAche> Install help needed (fdisk, aligning). need many aspirin. :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471586/
[20:25] <RealOpty> so whats the main reason to use nomachine?
[20:27] <tensorpudding> evud: i'm afraid i don't really know, it looks to me like a bug with xulrunner?
[20:30] <ResQue> what is a quick way of searching for a string within a man file
[20:30] <ResQue> so man gpg for example, i want to look for the string "a"
[20:30] <jpds> ResQue: "/a"
[20:31] <nisstyre65> Researcher: man gpg | grep "a"
[20:31] <nisstyre65> uh
[20:31] <nisstyre65> ResQue
[20:31] <ResQue> jpds: thank you,
[20:31] <ResQue> nisstyre65: thanks
[20:32] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor
[20:32] <nisstyre65> ResQue: the | pipes the output of man to the input of grep
[20:33] <Chopinn> can ubuntu 64 bit run 32 bit programs? like windows?
[20:33] <evud> tensorpudding: he, i removed xulrunner(I don't know what that even is) and Eclipse now works just fine! Thank you
[20:33] <ilovefairuz> HeadAche: did you paste?
[20:33] <jeiam> hello (:
[20:33] <jeiam> may i ask a question?
[20:33] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:33] <ilovefairuz> Chopinn: mostly, yes
[20:33] <tensorpudding> I think xulrunner is what firefox uses for something, but I'm not sure what.
[20:33] <ridin> Chopinn, yes
[20:34] <_hunter_> Chopinn: but not all of them
[20:34] <tensorpudding> !ask | jeiam
[20:34] <TeslaTony> Chopinn: Yes. There are a handfull of programs that might give you a headache, but I've run into very, very few
[20:34] <josephseraos> jeiam, you did :)
[20:34] <josephseraos> jeiam, Other?
[20:34] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:34] <jeiam> as a it department administrator, i have been considering switching my business to linux for a long time
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: xulrunner is mozilla's runtime and rendering engine, more like a JVM for java
[20:35] <tensorpudding> Hmm, so removing it would most likely cause firefox to no longer function
[20:35] <ResQue> i am trying to find just the letter "a" on its own in a man file, but i keep coming back with every word that contains an a, how can i search for just "a" or "-a" on its own
[20:36] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: depends on what version you have installed, but if something requires it, it will prompt you before removal
[20:36] <jpds> ResQue: "/ a "
[20:36] <jeiam> i have now switched all the computers in the business to run linux ubuntu
[20:36] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:36] <tensorpudding> I'm only saying this in regard to evud's issue with eclipse
[20:36] <ResQue> jpds: haha i really should have thought that one through . thank you
[20:36] <jeiam> however, i'd like to set the computers up to use the exact same software as before
[20:37] <tensorpudding> jeiam: the same software as before you switched to linux?
[20:37] <joee> I need to know how to disable lcd expansion in ubuntu. My goal is to have 2" black borders all the way around my monitor.
[20:37] <jeiam> tensorpudding: yes
[20:37] <guntbert> !repeat > joee
[20:37] <tensorpudding> jeiam: what did you switch from?
[20:37] <Chief> #javabeats.FM
[20:37] <joee> !eatshit > guntbert
[20:38] <jeiam> tensorpudding: windows xp sp3. i would like to set the computers up to run microsoft office 2003 and internet explorer 8
[20:38] <tensorpudding> jeiam: if you switched from some version of Windows, you're not going to be able to use all of it, probably only a small portion
[20:38] <jeiam> how can i do this?
[20:38] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: eclipse requires xulrunner to render web content inside itself (like its welcome screen and web previews)
[20:38] <jpds> jeiam: You'd have to use Wine to run those, or just use alternatives like OpenOffice and Firefox.
[20:38] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I believe Crossover will support Office 2003
[20:39] <ResQue> Thank you so much people, i dont think moving to linux would have been so easy if it wasnt for all the help people in this channel give for free. it can be very stressful sometimes, and talking to people who have done it before really helps. So THANK YOU to anyone how offers help for free in here.
[20:39] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It mgiht also run in Wine, but that's less certain.
[20:39] <ilovefairuz> jelam: but openoffice is very smiliar, free, and runs on windows, mac and gnu/linux
[20:39] <jpds> Office 2007 works fine under Wine 1.2.
[20:39] <tensorpudding> jeiam: CrossOver is not free though.
[20:39] <jeiam> jpds: unfortunately, alternatives to microsoft internet explorer 8 will not be justifiable, as our corporate intranet requires internet explore
[20:39] <jpds> jeiam: Ew.
[20:39] <nite> sup
[20:40] <jeiam> does microsoft develope an internet explorer for linux?
[20:40] <nite> why would you ever want to use it..  firefox always.
[20:40] <ResQue> jeiam: can you not just run ie with wine, or even terminal servies
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> jelam: get someone from google to talk to them about chrome and their Chrome Frame for IE
[20:40] <k00giez> jeiam:  you can run it through wine
[20:40] <red> jeiam: no :P
[20:40] <headkase314> jeiiam: I vouch for Crossover Linux.  It runs Microsoft Office almost perfectly.  Crossover is a paid app and unless there is a specific reason you can't work around by using OpenOffice then you should really consider the Open alternatives.
[20:40] <jpds> nite: You joined to late to see why.
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> k00giez: no, not IE8
[20:41] <nite> it happens
[20:41] <k00giez> hi ilovefairuz really
[20:41] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It's unfortunate, but IE8 isn't supported in Wine or CrossOver
[20:41] <ResQue> jeiam: or run ie on windows inside a vm like sun virtualbox
[20:41] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I believe that IE7 is though
[20:41] <jeiam> does openoffice support the same functionality as microsoft office? does it support doc and xls?
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> jelam: using free/open source alternatives will cost less, be more manageable in the long term
[20:41] <nite> I've attempted to conform IE7 to Wine..  no luck, but it is possible
[20:42] <_hunter_> jeiam - yes
[20:42] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It supports doc and xls, not sure about docx
[20:42] <red> openoffice is an awful awful suite
[20:42] <red> it works, but is not nearly at the level of ms office :p
[20:42] <jeiam> docx support is a must
[20:42] <_hunter_> jeiam - but open office can't open microsoft data base
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> jelam: yes it does, please download a copy and conduct a feasibility test for your corporate
[20:42] <_hunter_> jeiam - docx support too ;]
[20:42] <headkase314> jeiam: It will read practically most files you receive and you can "save as.." to Microsoft Office formats but sometimes there are small errors in the layout of the documents you send to others.
[20:42] <ResQue> tensorpudding: i think it opens docx, but will not save it, in the offical release
[20:42] <tensorpudding> jeiam: It will not support everything that Office 2003 supports, you might have to give it a try and see yourself.
[20:42] <red> and foremost, the openoffice powerpoint equivalent is .. no words to describe it
[20:42] <wilton> #sexo
[20:43] <HeadAche> need install help (livecd/fdisk/aligning). sadly in a bit over my head.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471590/
[20:43] <jeiam> docx support is good news - unfortunately it is an absolute imperative that it supports everything that microsoft office supports
[20:43] <jeiam> does openoffice support presentations?
[20:43] <ilovefairuz> jelam: you may also use the free web-based office suit from mircosoft to open any problematic documents
[20:43] <_hunter_> emm, yes ? :P
[20:43] <erUSUL> jeiam: yes
[20:44] <_hunter_> just like i said
[20:44] <_hunter_> open office only don't support mdb
[20:44] <jeiam> okay, i will look into both of these suggestions - thank you all very much!
[20:44] <headkase314> jeiam: Since you're already on Linux you should already have OpenOffice installed.  Do some tests?  Try to open some documents you already have and see the results?
[20:44] <_hunter_> mdb = microsoft data base (access)
[20:44] <abhijit> _hunter_, what is mdb?
[20:44] <tensorpudding> jeiam: If Office support is paramount, and you have licenses for 2003 that you bought and paid for, it would probably be best to purchase CrossOver and use Office through that.
[20:44] <abhijit> _hunter_, ok
[20:44] <_hunter_> abhijit, no problem
[20:44] <ilovefairuz> jelam: also check http://office.microsoft.com/
[20:44] <nite> openoffice comes embedded already, most of the time..  but either way, easily doomed into your distro use.
[20:45] <jeiam> headkase314: i am on my home computer right now, but tomorrow i will look into openoffice support
[20:45] <subcool> Hey, i just goofed- I was trying to install tigervnc, and in the process i somehow uninstall xserver-common ... which appears to have uninstalled a bunch of stuff, but when i try to sudo apt-get install xserver-common, it fails
[20:45] <subcool> lil help- my boot is kinda messed up
[20:45] <jeiam> from what you have all said, it sounds like a decent replacement for the microsoft suite
[20:45] <erUSUL> jeiam: all this info can be gathered in the oo.org website
[20:45] <Tux414> I have an acer aspire 3810TZ and my mic doesn't work at all. I have tried gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and it isn't helping much.
[20:46] <jeiam> erUSUL: thank you very much for your help :)
[20:46] <jeiam> okay, as for my second problem with internet explorer, does microsoft release an internet explorer for linux?
[20:46] <ilovefairuz> !sound | Tux414
[20:46] <_hunter_> no,
[20:47] <nite> use firefox..
[20:47] <nite> lol
[20:47] <_hunter_> jeiam...
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> !who | _hunter_, nite
[20:47] <jeiam> _hunter_ yes?_
[20:47] <headkase314> jeiam: Microsoft does not generally support Linux for reasons stemming from their business model.  There is no Internet Explorer on Linux.
[20:47] <_hunter_> !jeiam it's a heresy :P
[20:47] <madhu_> hi
[20:47] <tensorpudding> i believe they once did release an IE for Unix-likes
[20:48] <tensorpudding> that was ages ago though
[20:48] <tensorpudding> Ah, IE5 was the last version supported on Unix
[20:48] <jeiam> headkase314 _hunter_: so there is no way of running internet explorer on ubuntu?
[20:48] <_hunter_> !jeiam no
[20:48] <tensorpudding> jeiam: IE6 will run in Wine and CrossOver
[20:48] <abhijit> !ot
[20:48] <tensorpudding> jeiam: Newer versions are not going to work
[20:48] <madhu_> i have a problem with pppoe  , it alway show modem hangup
[20:48] <madhu_> plz suggest me what to do
[20:48] <headkase314> jeiam: As stated I'm pretty sure Crossover will run up to IE7 but for IE8 no.
[20:48] <jeiam> tensorpudding: my business requires internet explorer 8
[20:48] <_hunter_> !jeiam but you have other, like firefox, google chrome, opera
[20:48] <ilovefairuz> jelam: google releases a very good web browser for windows, mac and gnu/linux, it can be even used as the "engine" for existing IE installations, giving you the advantage of having the same IE interface but using a modern, very secure browser
[20:49] <tensorpudding> jeiam: There is an IE emulation mode in Google Chrome I think.
[20:49] <tensorpudding> Or was that Firefox that had that IE mode
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: it's called, Chrome Frame
[20:49] <_hunter_> i think that was firefox
[20:49] <_hunter_> i don't see it in chrome
[20:49] <jeiam> i'm not sure if any of these suggestions are feasible - my business develops websites for the internet explorer browser
[20:49] <ilovefairuz> tensorpudding: _hunter_: firefox has an IE Tab, it's a different thing
[20:49] <tensorpudding> It was an extension
[20:49] <Tux414> I tried other forums and I tried on ubuntu website and had no luck
[20:49] <ResQue> why does one need to use ie anyway, i mean it reads data in an opensource format? what do you have that needs I.E?
[20:50] <Tux414> I had some help in ubuntu women but still having no luck
[20:50] <tensorpudding> ResQue: corporate intranet software requires IE, is what jeiam said
[20:50] <jeiam> ResQue: my business develops websites for internet explorer.
[20:50] <ilovefairuz> jelam: unless they use very specific technologies, like activex, using a different modern browser, won't be a problem at all
[20:50] <ResQue> tensorpudding: did he mention the software, 80% of the time i have had problems i just changed the refer head in firefox and it worked fine
[20:50] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: we require that our clients do not use a different browser :(
[20:50] <mawst> Netflix uses activex.
[20:50] <mawst> :/
[20:51] <tensorpudding> In this world with Mac and Linux and mobile devices, requiring people to use IE is just ridiculous
[20:51] <erUSUL> ^
[20:51] <ResQue> ^
[20:51] <erUSUL> hear hear
[20:52] <TeslaTony> In this world with Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari, etc. it's silly to require IE
[20:52] <wildeja> Hi could someone direct me to help on installing a third party package to ubuntu please, The program is btanks  and the readme mentions 'scones' if that would be of any help in direction. Thanks
[20:52] <jeiam> tensorpudding: other browsers are not in high enough demand for our company to develop for them. there is an ie for mac, i am to understand? also, mobile devices have ie mobile.
[20:52] <erUSUL> not to mantion you must follow standars... and IE is *not* a standar
[20:52] <ResQue> with html 5 and the iphone i think we will be seeing a lot less of activex and flash, i hope so anyway
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> jelam: then you'll end having to tear your web interface and rebuilt it at  some point n the future, supporting popular modern browsers is a lot easier now than before
[20:52] <TeslaTony> Screw the operating systems. You have to deal with all those browsers regardless of your platform
[20:52] <tensorpudding> jeiam: Which mobile devices use IE mobile? Surely no iPhone or Android phone or Blackberry?
[20:52] <headkase314> jeiam: Your requirements are "locking-in" to Microsoft technologies.  Open alternatives take more work but generally give you more control - if that is a priority for you - over your own information.
[20:53] <tensorpudding> jeiam: IE for Mac hasn't been supported in years.
[20:53] <Tux43> My internet connection information speed says unknown or  1mbps does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:53] <jeiam> headkase314: microsoft technology is a standard in the workplace, which is why we require it :/
[20:53] <_hunter_> so why you install ubuntu?
[20:53] <jeiam> i was unaware that ubuntu lacked support for microsoft technology before i installed it
[20:54] <phaer> jeiam: Why do you just support ie? Most things should be quite easy in cross-browser dev nowadays.
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> jelam: most modern browsers just use one of two engines, gecko and webkit, so they work in a very very close manner
[20:54] <ResQue> jeiam: Hold on MS isnt the standard in the work place, its the standard in your work place
[20:54] <nite> VM Widows and use Office
[20:54] <jeiam> phaer: most of the sites we create often do not display correctly in sites other than ie...
[20:54] <tensorpudding> Virtualization probably isn't an option for underpowered office computers
[20:55] <nite> true...  underpower is such a depressing contept.. I love my beast..
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> jelam: than you have incompetent web developers
[20:55] <jeiam> ResQue: and other workplaces besides.
[20:55] <koios> hi all
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> jelam: professional web developers keep compatibility in mind at all times
[20:55] <nite> I often forget my VMs require such taxing on my processors..
[20:55] <phaer> jeiam: Well then its a problem of your sites. It should be possible for any company to accept web standards and create a few workarounds for old browsers like ie 6.
[20:55] <sweetpi> ilovefairuz: amen
[20:55] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: i'm not allowed to comment on the skill of my web developers ;)
[20:55] <scribawf> firefox3.5 bundled w/ubuntu 10.04 fails/crashes to start what do I do?
[20:55] <headkase314> jeiam: You need to re-think your situation very carefully.  Open is a very sound position, proprietary technologies are the opposite of that.  You need a top to bottom evaluation of your priorities.  Google "Open Source vs. Proprietary" to get some reading materal.
[20:55] <koios> does anyone know a website indicating speed up of of Lucid at boot time ?
[20:56] <headkase314> *material
[20:56] <ResQue> jeiam: i admit that a lot of work places use windows, but its not the standard every where, and 90% of windows network will be reliant on a linux kernal somewhere in there inferstructure
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: no need to comment, it's obvious
[20:56] <phaer> scribawf: Try to start it from a terminal and look at the output.
[20:56] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I'm sure you're not solely responsible for your businesses decisions, and we're not trying to denigrate your business, but if you wish to only support Microsoft's software, you should definitely stick to Windows, because no other OS is able to
[20:56] <High_Priest> hi ppl, I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[20:56] <padhu> I want small games to play in ubuntu 10.04. please list out. Don't point playdeb.
[20:56] <phaer> scribawf: If you do not understand it, paste it on a pastebin site and put the link in here ;)
[20:56] <kyubutsu> take it to offtopic, folk
[20:56] <scribawf> phaer: OK will give it a try tu
[20:56] <ResQue> padhu: not so much a small game, but look for savage 2
[20:56] <HeadAche> would very much like help with install. sadly in over my head (livecd/fdisk/aligning).  http://paste.ubuntu.com/471596/
[20:57] <nite> Micro$oft true facts..  proprietary..
[20:57] <padhu>  ResQue: sure
[20:57] <nite> hence..  OPEN SOURCE floats my thoughts...
[20:57] <wildeja> Hi could someone direct me to help on installing a third party package to ubuntu please, The program is btanks  and the readme mentions 'scones' if that would be of any help in direction. Thanks
[20:57] <ResQue> padhu: its a very very additive game, works on mac, windows and linux nativly and is a mix between an RTS and a FPS
[20:57] <ResQue> padhu: and its free, there is a pro version but only for clans and scoreboards and stuff
[20:58] <phaer> padhu: Frogatto! Its a nice jump and run
[20:58] <padhu> ResQue: apt-get ?
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: specify the name of the application
[20:58] <phaer> padhu: Or maybe OpenTyrian its a retro aracde shooter
[20:58] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Battle Tanks
[20:58] <ResQue> padhu: no you will need to download it, they dont have a repo so apt-get will not work, you can download the binary from
[20:58] <nite> <<<<  OpenSuse, Mint 8 & 9, BT4...  choose your weapon..
[20:58] <nite> apt-get...  to got get..  etc..
[20:58] <nite> go*
[20:59] <ResQue> padhu: http://www.savage2.com/en/main.php
[20:59] <padhu> ResQue: thank you
[20:59] <ResQue> padhu: i will give you a game later if you like, i got work todo now
[20:59] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: sudo apt-get install btanks
[20:59] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What is ndiswrapper ?
[20:59] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, I downloaded the latest version v0.98 but now realise i dont have a clue to get it working
[21:00] <BiggFREE> Is it right written ?
[21:00] <nite> ndiswrapper provides setup possibilities for your wiress NICs
[21:00] <padhu> ResQue: sure, it is for childrens 10 year old
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: ubuntu has the most recent version, use the command i've given you
[21:00] <erUSUL> wildeja: it seems to be a mod for warcraft iii you need the game installed ( dunno if it works in wine)
[21:00] <BiggFREE> nite ... ty
[21:00] <nite> normally is the only way of getting your wireless to recognize in any of the Ubuntu distros
[21:00] <erUSUL> wildeja: either way no very ontopic here
[21:00] <ResQue> padhu: also if you have any ideas for simple games let me know, i run a small amature games dev team. and we are focusing on 2d cross platform games at the moment
[21:00] <jeiam> i would love to switch entirely to non-proprietary software, but at the moment my business explicitly requires internet explorer :/
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: it's a wrapper to use windows wireless drivers on gnu/linux
[21:01] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:01] <erUSUL> jeiam: then stay on windows. join ##windows
[21:01] <stukad> hey, anyone tryed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ (10.10) ?
[21:01] <wildeja> erUSUL, Not talking about warcraft, must be mix up, i asked about installing program to ubuntu
[21:01] <ResQue> jeiam: i think you need to run internet explorer then haha
[21:01] <jeiam> so until non-proprietary software is the norm, i'm afraid i must stick to my companies wishes
[21:01] <padhu>  ResQue: ok
[21:01] <nite> Jeiam, I understand and it's unfortunate..  so, keep your head in the opensource game and your work status in the Micro-shit areas..  it'll get better sooner or later..
[21:01] <wildeja> erUSUL, sorry
[21:01] <headkase314> jeiam: That is called being "locked-in" and generally puts your business at a disadvantage as you are not Free to choose the best technology rather you must align with your proprietary vendor.
[21:01] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What is the right name ?  apt-get did not find it.
[21:02] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: you'll gain a lot more than what you'll lose in the short term
[21:02] <High_Priest> I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
[21:02] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:02] <jeiam> headkase314: is there anyway to deal with the locked-in situation?
[21:02] <nikitis> I'm so pissed off.  Why is it so hard to get a vnc server to run on boot, and log into it and get a gnome login screen??    Can someone please for the love of all that is holy, help me out with this?
[21:02] <erUSUL> wildeja: this ? http://btanks.net/v2/ then read.... i quote « n Battle Tanks you have to buy tanks, weapons and equipment to destroy the enemy base. The map requires Warcraft III The Frozen Throne. Here you can download the latest version. »
[21:02] <kyubutsu> !offtopic | jeiam
[21:02] <Tux414> jeiam: What kind of problems are you having with firefox on Ubuntu?
[21:02] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What is the right name ? apt-get did not find it.
[21:02] <tensorpudding> nikitis: have you looked into xdmcp?
[21:02] <jeiam> kyubutsu: i am not off-topic, as this is a specific ubuntu-related question.
[21:02] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:03] <wildeja> sorry hadn't a clue
[21:03] <nikitis> tensorpudding: YES, and it's broken in 10.04
[21:03] <jeiam> tux414: my business requires internet explorer :/
[21:03] <headkase314> jeiam: Research and go through the one-time pain to move to technology that is Open and Free.  See: http://www.gnu.org/ as a primer on Free and research what you particularly need from there.
[21:03] <tensorpudding> nikitis: broken?
[21:03] <nite> ... is on BT4 at the moment..  so much better..
[21:03] <stukad> whats the difference with 10.10 alpha 1, alpha 2 and the daily build?
[21:03] <nikitis> tensorpudding: yes as in code has changed, no longer supported,  doesn't work
[21:03] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: setup  pilot test experiment with only a small group of employees (convert them completely to gnu/llinux) and see how things go,
[21:03] <vershan> hi there guys, im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 1 - any ideas on upgrading to alpha 2 instead of downloading it
[21:03] <Pici> !maverick | vershan stukad
[21:04] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: this is a good idea that i think i'll put to test :)
[21:04] <kyubutsu> jeiam: how is your business requiring internet explorer ubuntu specific.. take it to #offtopic
[21:04] <nite> Jeiam, i'd love to be a fly on the wall when you run the test piloting for your emps on linux..
[21:04] <shurane> Is there a smaller ubuntu channel? I find it hard to get questions answered here, since it's so large.
[21:04] <HeadAche> are you guys sure you arent getting trolled  by the micro$oft questioning?  ...it sure seems like it to me
[21:04] <wildeja> Thanks all, sorry again for the misunderstanding, gnite
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: and if you encounter any problems with gnu/linux software, come here and ask
[21:04] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: in the meantime, is there a way i can move the rest of my business back to windows and internet explorer?
[21:04] <scribawf> bundled firefox 3.6 fails to start in ubuntu lucid w/this output from terminal Attempting to load libmoonloaderxpi
[21:04] <scribawf> Segmentation fault   what this mean?
[21:04] <nikitis> tensorpudding: so how else can I get a vnc server to load on boot, connect to it and get a gnome login?
[21:04] <ResQue> padhu: before i forget if you are looking for an mmo there is dofus
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[21:05] <tensorpudding> jeiam: Reinstall windows and the software you had on the machines.
[21:05] <red> shurane: you could try your local ubuntu channel
[21:05] <Tux414> jeiam: Any web page that can be viewed on IE can be viewed on other web broswers. In fact Internet Explorer 8 which is the latest verison doesn't support html 5.  Is there a specific reason why you have to use internet explorer?
[21:05] <tensorpudding> jeiam: I hope you kept backups?
[21:05] <ResQue> padhu: its a bit of a strange game and written in flash, but i head it works ok on linux very strage type of game play
[21:05] <red> usually #ubuntu-xx
[21:05] <jeiam> tensorpudding: the machines had oem copies of windows - is there a way of restoring this without having to purchase new licenses?
[21:05] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: ty
[21:05] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: back up your data, reinstall, restore backups, etc, pretty typical process
[21:06] <nikitis> So nobody here connects their boxes to vnc without first logging into gnome?
[21:06] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will I break something?
[21:06] <sweetpi> jeiam: ##windows
[21:06] <Tux414> jeiam: Which version of windows did you have?
[21:06] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: we don't take backups of workstations - only the file and network servers
[21:06] <kyubutsu> Tux414: stop feeding the troll
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> !ot | Tux414
[21:06] <kyubutsu> we need an op really
[21:06] <jeiam> jeiam: microsoft windows xp with service pack 3
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: we can't help you if you don't keep backups
[21:07] <shurane> red: cool, thanks
[21:07] <sinurge> whatz a zsync file
[21:07] <Pici> jeiam: What does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[21:07] <jeiam> ilovefairuz: i see - is there a way i can restore the copies of windows WITHOUT backups? ://
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: we don't offer windows support
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> jeiam: please stick to ubuntu-related questions
[21:07] <jeiam> Pici: i am trying to move my business to ubuntu, and i am enquiring for ubuntu-related help :-)
[21:08] <RealOpty> how come when i try to deactivate my screensaver it freezes up the screen and the mouse flickers, and no popup to login?
[21:08] <ResQue> you could use a linux boot disk to repair you hardisk, or to recover a currupt partiion very easly
[21:08] <Q_Continuum> 10.04-64, ATI HD3200/HD5770 - blank screen on bootup, both from upgrade from 9.10 and attempting fresh install of 10.04 - any workarounds?
[21:08] <Pici> jeiam: It looks like you're asking about Windows.
[21:08] <nikitis> Anyone?
[21:09] <jeiam> Pici: i am asking about *moving away from* windows.
[21:09] <headkase314> jeiam: Please consider contacting Canonical directly.  They have business support options that may suit you.  Without knowledge you can trawl a lot but Canonical will actually be able to assist you in a meaningful manner.
[21:09] <nite> windows YUCK
[21:09] <ResQue> i done that 100s of times just search ubuntu data recovery
[21:09] <High_Priest> I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
[21:09] <Pici> jeiam: So what *exactly* is the question.
[21:09] <jeiam> headkase314: thank you very much :-) i will try this - are canonical likely to be able to help me set up internet explorer on linux?
[21:10] <koios> hi guys, how can I speed up boot time of my 10.4?
[21:10] <ilovefairuz> Pici: it's already answered, don't bother
[21:10] <jeiam> Pici: i have moved my business to linux, but we require internet explorer on all of our machines.
[21:10] <headkase314> jeiam: I am beginning to doubt your sincerity as that question has already been answered.
[21:10] <jeiam> headkase314: ?
[21:11] <ResQue> Hahahahaha
[21:11] <ResQue> :-D
[21:11] <kyubutsu> there are other questions to be answered, let us move on.. tired of this windows chat
[21:11] <Pici> jeiam: I don't believe  that any current version of IE will work on Linux (i.e. with WINE).  Your only other option would possible be crossover office or virtualization.
[21:11] <High_Priest> yessir_turan, like mine
[21:11] <High_Priest> "yes"
[21:11] <High_Priest> and its about ubuntu :)
[21:11] <jeiam> Pici: okay - thank you very much for your help :-)
[21:11] <Pici> jeiam: I don't know anything about crossover office, so you're on your own there.
[21:11] <koios> yep
[21:12] <High_Priest> I need to add some things to xorg.conf to enable scroll button on my ThinkPad laptop but seems there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
[21:13] <jeiam> High_Priest: create the file. xorg.conf has not been created by default for several releases now.
[21:13] <High_Priest> this is the first time I'm using ubuntu
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: switch to run level 3 and run: Xorg -configure
[21:14] <nite> High_Priest:  and you'll never go back to the dark side of micro$oft...  good choice..  but I would suggest OpenSuse or Mint also..
[21:15] <red__> hi any one know how i get send a text free from my pc
[21:15] <High_Priest> nite, actually I was using slackware for years, and had winblows on my laptop, but got sick and tired of it so I thought of trying some other more friendly distro on my laptop
[21:15] <kyubutsu> High_Priest: have you checked system>preference>mouse
[21:15] <ilovefairuz> !ot | red__, search google
[21:16] <High_Priest> kyubutsu, yes, but nothing interesting there
[21:16] <High_Priest> will Xorg -configure ask me all the details or it will create the config with current options?
[21:17] <High_Priest> and also
[21:17] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will it break something?
[21:17] <stukad> anyone got TRIM to work on 10.4 (2.6.32) ?
[21:17] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: no, it will generate an xorg.conf with default configuration
[21:18] <High_Priest> ilovefairuz, gr8, thanks
[21:18] <Pici> !paste | red
[21:18] <yodaddy> does anyone know how to install silverlight threw the wine application?
[21:18] <edbian> Is there a setting for what opens in a new tab in firefox?
[21:19] <guntbert> nite: please keep to ubuntu support in your comments
[21:19] <nikitis> Question:  When I added x11vnc to /etc/rc.local and rebooted after setting the execution bit.  Why won't x11vnc not let me connect?
[21:19] <headkase314> youdaddy: The Linux alternative to SilverLight is MoonLight http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Have you explored that?
[21:19] <nite> oh relax
[21:20] <blitzo> thumbdrive: need to make a file system: gparted and fidsk won't write a partition table.  it's not mounted.  what am i doing wrong?
[21:20] <stukad> !TRIM
[21:20] <ilovefairuz> edbian: no, edit > preferences, but there are addons that add more options like an opera-like speed dial
[21:21] <edbian> ilovefairuz, Ok thanks.
[21:21] <nikitis> Where did all the smart people go?
[21:21] <blitzo> how to make a file system on a thumbdrive?
[21:21] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: What are advantages of changing RUNLEVEL ?
[21:22] <stukad> anyone got TRIM to work on 10.4 (2.6.32) ?
[21:22] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: keeping activity to a minimal
[21:22] <phaer> blitzo: mke2fs /dev/<thumbdrive device> will make an ext2 fs.
[21:22] <jpds> stukad: I don't think it's enabled in the Lucid kernel.
[21:22] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will it break something?
[21:22] <BiggFREE> ilovefairuz: Thanks a lot
[21:23] <blitzo> phaer, don't i have to partition it?
[21:23] <kyubutsu> !runlevel | BiggFREE
[21:23] <joona> Hey, is it possible to make a standalone program (.i386?) from a source coed?
[21:23] <BiggFREE> kyubutsu: Thanks
[21:23] <phaer> blitzo: Not necessarily. But you can do that either with (c)fdisk /dev/<thumb> on the command line or System -> Administration -> Disk Utility
[21:24] <padhu> any network usage recorder in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:24] <wisey> i've noticed that some pc's have two cpu sockets on one motherboard, with each socket running a multi-core cpu. What is the advantage of doing this?
[21:24] <madjoe> hey guys, can anyone help me to remove the old flashplayer and install a new one in my Chrome?
[21:24] <nite> quick question..  what would someone recommend as a prime portscanner for Linux?  I've had issues with some..
[21:24] <Utrinqueparatus> why doesnt the keyboard work on 10.04 virtualised in vmware workstation 7?
[21:24] <coz_> joona,  many times  compiling  the source code withouth installing it makes an executable that ca be run
[21:24] <edbian> nite, nmap
[21:24] <jpds> nite: nmap
[21:25] <nite> nmap works, sometimes..  don't know why it fails so often.. looking for an alternative option..
[21:25] <joona> coz_:okay, so I'm quite a beginner when it comes to source codes, would you have time to explain more to me e.g. how to
[21:25] <jpds> nite: How does it fail?
[21:25] <coz_> joona,  alot depends on how the developer designed it however./..in "general""  to compile it is   ./configure  then run make
[21:25] <joona> okay
[21:25] <nite> corrupt sourcing..  and inability to read.. but only sometimes...
[21:25] <nite> so, alternative?
[21:25] <nikitis> I'm seriously gonna cry.  I've been on this problem for 6 hours.  Can someone work with me to figure out how to get a VNC Server to load on boot and allow me to connect to it without first logging into gnome?
[21:25] <nite> just to compare to..
[21:26] <blitzo> lsof gives an error "WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/dd/.gvfs" there is no such file or directory - what does it mean?
[21:26] <coz_> joona,   at that point the executable should have been made  and it can be run  with ./nameofapplication   when you cd into the source package after having run both ./confgure and  make
[21:26] <headkase314> joona: See -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[21:26] <jpds> nikitis: You mean like XDMCP?
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> BiggFREE: kyubutsu: that's correct, must've mixed it with another distro
[21:26] <coz_> joona,  otherwise a    "sudo make install"  would be run to actually install the application onto the system
[21:26] <joona> coz_: okay, I'll try. Thank you!
[21:26] <jimbo_> When I use "Preferences -> Monitors" to activate and rotate my monitors, how can I find out what commands Gnome is using to do that?  It's xrandr I assume, but I need the full commands.
[21:26] <nikitis> jpds: How can I get xdmcp to work on ubuntu 10.04?
[21:27] <jimbo_> nikitis: sure I can probably help with that, gimme a bit.
[21:27] <coz_> joona,  whichever application...look for a  "INSTALL"  or "README"  file located inside
[21:27] <coz_> joona,   read both of those
[21:27] <High_Priest> ilovefairuz, how to switch to runlevel 3? telinit 3 or init 3 does not work
[21:27] <blitzo> hi coz_, can you let the ciaro-dock folks know that their new anti-spam filter prevents me from posting altogether?  i can no longer participate in testing at all and have given up.
[21:27] <jimbo_> nikitis: I've had good success with xtightvncserver in the past.
[21:27] <jpds> nikitis: You can't. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/408417
[21:27] <padhu> why compiz cube top & bottom will not show ubuntu LOGO?, It shows only blak colour
[21:27] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: ignore the switching
[21:27] <coz_> blitzo,  really???
[21:27] <coz_> blitzo,   let me check
[21:27] <phaer> jimbo_: Read the source code. But the easy solution would be to read man xrandr for everything you'll need.
[21:27] <blitzo> coz_ all my posts have been rejected
[21:27] <High_Priest> ilovefairuz, yes, but Xorg -configure reports that X is already running
[21:28] <padhu> solid*
[21:28] <jimbo_> phaer: I know enough about xrandr, just want to cheat and use gnome's computed values, which are ideal.
[21:28] <coz_> blitzo,   ok join the #cairo-dock channel   matttbe is there now
[21:28] <sirninja> how can I improve compiz performance if I all I really want from it is the expo plugin?
[21:28] <panax3> how can I togger the file path name on a print in open office?
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> High_Priest: alt + ctrl + f2, sudo service gdm stop, sudo Xorg -configure
[21:28] <panax3> toggel that is
[21:29] <headkase314> padhu: Enable Cube Deformation and Reflection.  You can set the top and bottom images in that plugin
[21:29] <nikitis> jpds: Hey, this has to be supported.  You can't just drop remoting into a linux distribution?  That's part of what Linux is about
[21:29] <lathan> i have a question that I asked earlier, but not sure how to do it. i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 Live-Persistent on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[21:30] <jimbo_> phaer: actually I suppose `xrandr -q` shopuld give me everything I need after gnome sets things up, huh?
[21:30] <padhu> headkase314: how can i install it? apt-get ?
[21:30] <aronaliaga> hola
[21:30] <aronaliaga> no me funciona el chat español
[21:30] <aronaliaga> alguien me hecho una mano?
[21:31] <Flannel> aronaliaga: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:31] <aronaliaga> alguien habla español?
[21:31] <ZachK_> !Spanish | aronaliaga
[21:31] <headkase314> padhu: It is in "CompizConfig Settings Manager" in synaptic search for that, I don't know the actual package name, also in synaptic install the extras package too.  Then it all appears under System > Preferences.
[21:31] <aronaliaga> hola
[21:31] <aronaliaga> alguien habla mi idioma?
[21:31] <midar> i, pero no aqui
[21:31] <aronaliaga> no me funciona el chat en español
[21:32] <Cheval_Boiteux> Hi everybody, I'd like to know how to restore the mbr of my windows
[21:32] <aronaliaga> esq no me funciona
[21:32] <guntbert> !es | aronaliaga
[21:32] <headkase314> padhu: Synaptic is under System > Administration
[21:32] <Nname> aronaliaga,
[21:32] <padhu> headkase314: I installed it, ok, i will try it
[21:32] <Nname> entra en #ubuntu-es
[21:32] <ilovefairuz> aronaliaga: Escribe: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:32] <Nname> este canal es solo ingles
[21:32] <aronaliaga> joder
[21:32] <aronaliaga> pues tu hablas
[21:32] <headkase314> padhu: good, every setting for compiz is there!
[21:32] <aronaliaga> muy bien español
[21:32] <aronaliaga> q te cuesta
[21:33] <FloodBot1> aronaliaga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <Nname> xD
[21:33] <aronaliaga> esq parece racismo
[21:33] <aronaliaga> si no me funciona
[21:33] <Nname> es que en este canal solo se puede hablar en ingles
[21:33] <aronaliaga> q mas
[21:33] <aronaliaga> da'
[21:33] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: Do you mean the MBR install by windows?
[21:33] <FloodBot1> aronaliaga: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <padhu> ok, thanks....
[21:33] <qnikst> hello, can you paste output of commands `uname -i` and `uname -a` please
[21:33] <qnikst> ?
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> aronaliaga: either talk in english or leave
[21:33] <Cheval_Boiteux> r4z0rw0lf, yes because GRUB deleted it
[21:34] <Cheval_Boiteux> and I can't boot on windows7 any more
[21:34] <lathan> can anyone help with my question?
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> !details | lathan
[21:34] <lathan> i have an SD card with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 Live-Persistent on it. So, i boot from the SD card, and click to "test" ubuntu, but I also have a persistence file. Now, i want to install UNR on my hdd. how would i go about transferring my changes from my SD card's persistence file to my hdd install?
[21:35] <nikitis> jimbo_ you still here?
[21:35] <lathan> basically, i want to take my sd card's live version of UNR and make it a full install on my internal hdd
[21:35] <ResQue> how can i get the gpg key of GnuPG i tryed to gpp --search, but 100s come up for gpg.
[21:35] <ResQue> i want there public key so i can verify there data
[21:35] <iceroot> !usb | lathan
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> lathan: what changes are you trying to transfer, which program?
[21:36] <iceroot> lathan: hm not that whati thought
[21:36] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: I think http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828 may help you
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: verify whose data?
[21:37] <lathan> i want to transfer all installed programs, files, etc.
[21:37] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: GnuGP
[21:37] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i downloaded there gpg app and i want to use the gpg.sig file to check its auth and not currupted
[21:37] <Cheval_Boiteux> Thx r4z0rw0lf, I'll tell you if it works
[21:38] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: but i can find GnuGP public key
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: what happen ?
[21:38] <qnikst> .çôêå
[21:38] <NativeAngels> has anyone here used ubuntu on a sunfire v100
[21:38] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: nothing everything is fine, i just following a tutorial on how to use it
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: sorry, which app? link ?
[21:38] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: www.gnupg.org
[21:39] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i am downloading software from www.gnupg.org and i want to there public key
[21:39] <Cheval_Boiteux> r4z0rw0lf, it doesn't work
[21:39] <Cheval_Boiteux> "couldn't find package ms-sys"
[21:40] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: http://www.gnupg.org/signature_key.en.html
[21:40] <lathan> so, can anyone help me with transferring my live-persistent sd contents of Ubuntu netbook remix to my internal hdd as a full install, keeping my files and installing programs on the full install
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> lathan: what changes are you trying to transfer?
[21:41] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: thank you, how did you find it, so i know for next time?
[21:41] <slow-motion> hi
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: two clicks on the website ?
[21:41] <ResQue> did you use a key server or just google there domain, i couldnt see anything on there homepage
[21:41] <lathan> installed programs, files and such, like i've installed chromium, media players, yada yada
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> lathan: you could transfer application settings by copy the .* stuff (like the directories) in .config
[21:43] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i see, guess i just missed the link, what link did you click on the homepage first?
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> lathan: i think (and i could be wrong) that the persistence file uses unionfs and so merging it completely is rather very tricky
[21:44] <cablop> how can i reset the keyring?
[21:44] <cablop> it said me one day that the pwd changed and now asks my password all the time :(
[21:44] <shurane> is ~/.bash_login called when you log in?
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> ResQue: click on "integrity check" and then in "using gpg" there's a link for "signing key" but it's kinda ambiguous
[21:45] <cablop> i don't know
[21:45] <cablop> w
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> cablop: did you change your user password?
[21:45] <cablop> yes i did
[21:45] <lathan> so, there's no way to fully install UNR with the contents of my current live-persistent version of UNR?
[21:45] <cablop> and it's so annoying for some commands like svn...
[21:46] <cablop> ilovefairuz: yes, i did
[21:46] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: i see, yes i even read that page to get started and missed it, guess it kind of defeats the point getting the key from the same site you download from but i am only testing it
[21:46] <ResQue> ilovefairuz: thanks
[21:46] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: try installing msys from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ms-sys
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> cablop: http://www.48da.com/2010/01/19/reset-gnome-keyring-password-on-ubuntu.html
[21:47] <grubtrouble> hi, is there a safe way to update grub/ update linux kernel?  i keep getting an unbootable system :(
[21:47] <cablop> thanks ilovefairuz
[21:47] <grubtrouble> i have a double boot windows/ ubuntu but im scared to update
[21:47] <Cheval_Boiteux> r4z0rw0lf, when I try to repair the boot of windows with its DVD, the OS isn't recognize. So I can't try commands like "Bootrec.exe /Fixmbr". You understand ?
[21:48] <mcnellis> How can I create a link that will go to the actual link's final path?
[21:48] <guntbert> cablop: don't use sudo passwd ... to change the password, instead use the "me" menu, that way the keyring password should stay in sync
[21:48] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: boot livecd and open a terminal: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[21:48] <n0pz> Having an issue, desktop effects say they cannot enable. I tried activating proprietary drivers but it says, diffrent version of this recommended driver is in use. Lets me activate but then i restart to blinking cursor and have to recover mode reset Xorg.conf.
[21:48] <High_Priest> scroll fixed :)
[21:48] <andrewax> hi
[21:49] <andrewax> That's issue with caps lock was really a bug
[21:49] <lathan> anyone?
[21:49] <cablop> guntbert: where's that me menu?
[21:49] <edbian> n0pz, Check out the compiz check script! http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[21:49] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, http://pastebin.com/Pf0VFyUd
[21:49] <mcnellis> e.g. I have my ~/Documents folder link to ~/Dropbox/Documents but I'd like ~/Documents to essentially redirect to ~/Dropbox/Documents (so my right click menu has the Dropbox features)
[21:49] <n0pz> When i go to nvidia settings it says you are not currently using a nvidia driver please use Xorg -Nvidia to create Xorg.conf then i do it and restart to same blinking cursor/login.
[21:49] <n0pz> edbian okay will do. :)
[21:50] <edbian> n0pz, It's very helpful :)
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: you have two gnu/linux installations? which one is the most recent version ?
[21:50] <cablop> mcnellis: maybe thtough a hardlink
[21:50] <guntbert> cablop: in the right upper corner you find your user name , click on that and select the first entry
[21:50] <andrewax> does mouse works in screen in your Ubuntu installation?
[21:50] <andrewax> In X.Org, it works if I type TERM=xterm
[21:51] <r4z0rw0lf> Cheval_Boiteux: Yeah I understand, What exactly is wrong with your system? did you install GRUB over the original MBR?
[21:51] <andrewax> but in console, with gpm, not
[21:51] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, i had an ubuntu installed from windows.. but during update it became unbootable.. so i reinstalled froma livecd this time
[21:51] <ilovefairuz> mcnellis:  doesn't work this way
[21:51] <n0pz> edbian I dled and ran it, it said more than one graphics chip detected. Cannot handle that. Aborted.
[21:51] <cablop> guntbert: ah! i've never realized it as my me menu... i thopught that was just an ubuntu one thing
[21:51] <edbian> n0pz, Do you have more than one graphics card installed or something?
[21:51] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: so which one has ubuntu? sd5 or sd7?
[21:51] <andrewax> ilovefairus: do you installed ubuntu with wubi?
[21:52] <n0pz> Its a laptop and I believe it has both Intel & Nvidia graphics. One for saving power and one to run for high performance.
[21:52] <Utrinqueparatus> why doesnt the keyboard work on 10.04 virtualised in vmware workstation 7?
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> andrewax: not at all
[21:52] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, /dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> andrewax: but why ?
[21:52] <surfereddie> Enter text here...hello all
[21:52] <edbian> andrewax, It is possible to install using wubi but that is not a normal install.  The proper way is to use a live CD and create a new partition(s) for ubuntu.
[21:52] <edbian> n0pz, MM sounds very tricky.  I'm not sure what to do.  Never worked with anything like that before!
[21:53] <grubtrouble> i had a wubi too that went wrong :(
[21:53] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: ok type, in a terminal: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[21:53] <andrewax> ilovefairus: I know what, if you install Ubuntu inside windows with wubi
[21:53] <surfereddie> anybody using NX server?
[21:53] <edbian> surfereddie, Hi
[21:53] <d9500> lathan, does your computer see the persistent-SD card as simply another /dev/sdX device?
[21:53] <n0pz> edbian That blows. =( lol. Thanks anyways. =)
[21:53] <andrewax> ilovefairus: and Ubuntu doesnot boots anymore
[21:53] <mcphail> surfereddie: occasionally
[21:53] <edbian> n0pz, Good luck. Make a forum post. !forums
[21:53] <guntbert> cablop: :-), you can change your password from CLI too -- just type passwd (don't use sudo for this)
[21:53] <andrewax> ilovefairus: a simple chkdsk in windows ca solve this problem
[21:53] <edbian> !forums
[21:53] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, it's already mounted. im in it now.. i just fear that when i upgrade grub it will become unbootable again
[21:53] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: then: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[21:53] <nubix> Hey, someone here who has experience with installing the 10.04 version from an usb drive? I got some trouble because the installation says its not possible to determine the codename for the release.
[21:54] <nubix> it's the alternate install
[21:54] <andrewax> ilovefairus: but if Ubuntu is phisically installed, you can try a fsck or reinstall grub
[21:54] <grubtrouble> im pretty sure updating grub will make it unbootable, since it's in such a weird state now :(
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: make what unbootable?
[21:55] <grubtrouble> my computer
[21:55] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: if ubuntu is installed correctly on sda7, then it will work just fine
[21:55] <mcnellis> cablop: hard link not allowed for a directory it seems. ilovefairuz so it's impossible to get the original path?
[21:55] <surfereddie> anybody know the command to exit the text editor ie.  :sudo ti /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:55] <magicianlord> sda7? why do you have 7 partitions
[21:55] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble:  (and assuming you did BOTH commands)
[21:55] <grubtrouble> i already spend 2 days getting it back to this state
[21:55] <nikitis> cd #gnome
[21:56] <andrewax> surfereddie what text editor?
[21:56] <surfereddie> when you do "sudo ti"
[21:56] <grubtrouble> if i run the update manager and it upgrades grub and kernel, how can i be sure it wont be in a nonbootable state again?
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> mcnellis: the extra features are only for that special directory
[21:56] <High_Priest> if I remove tcl/tk 8.4 installation (I installed 8.5) will I break something?
[21:56] <erUSUL> surfereddie: vi ? press ":q" then enter
[21:56] <r4z0rw0lf> #cbase
[21:56] <andrewax> i never hear about ti
[21:56] <surfereddie> where in the heck do you find that
[21:56] <andrewax> in vi you can type :q!
[21:56] <erUSUL> High_Priest: try; if something depends on it apt will tell you
[21:57] <High_Priest> erUSUL, thanks
[21:57] <mcnellis> ilovefairuz: yes I know, that's why I want to get redirected to the special directory lol
[21:57] <surfereddie> thanks both of you
[21:57] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: to what state? if ubuntu is booting fine now, then what is your problem ?
[21:57] <erUSUL> surfereddie: if you want to save changes you have to do ":wq"
[21:57] <Tall> can you help-me?
[21:57] <erUSUL> surfereddie: in the future use nano. is easier.
[21:57] <joona> Tall: What's your problem?
[21:57] <Tall> channel in Portugueses is #Ubuntu_BR?
[21:57] <grubtrouble> my problem is , when grub updates, it runs scripts and overwrites things... making it unbootable... andi have to spend another 2 days getting it back in order :(\
[21:58] <surfereddie> I'm just trying to get NX server running so I can practice without haveing to switch monitors and keyboards
[21:58] <ilovefairuz> Tall: ubuntu-br
[21:58] <andrewax> surfereddie vi can be very hard for beginners. Neither I dominate it
[21:58] <lathan> so, can anyone tell me what I would need to do in this situation? I have a 2 GB SD card with a Live-Persistent version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 on it. Now, I want to install this on my internal HDD, but I want to transfer all the stuff from my SD version to the full install (as i've installed programs, made changes to the OS, etc.). I would just copy the SD to the HDD completely, but the SD is a "live" version. any ideas anyone?
[21:58] <Tall> great
[21:58] <andrewax> surfereddie you can try nano or mcedit what are more friendly
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: then use the commands i've given you
[21:59] <surfereddie> I nano in the software center?
[21:59] <andrewax> nano alread come installed ;)
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> surfereddie: yes it is
[21:59] <erUSUL> surfereddie: is installed by default
[21:59] <andrewax> yes
[21:59] <surfereddie> andreway, do you use NX server?
[21:59] <andrewax> just type nano
[21:59] <andrewax> no
[21:59] <|grzesag|> Hi I need to set up ssl over http using virtual host?
[21:59] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, what guarantee do i have grub is in an ok state after running that?
[21:59] <andrewax> there is no nano available?
[21:59] <grubtrouble> how can i tell ?
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> !who | andrewax
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> !who | grubtrouble
[22:00] <magicianlord> lathan: copy your home directory files, but reinstall the apps
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: tell what?
[22:00] <lathan> there's no way to avoid reinstalling everything?
[22:00] <magicianlord> !bacon
[22:00] <d9500> lathan, see my earlier message. if the machine sees it as another standard disk drive (that is, a /dev/sdX device) then you may be able to clone it.
[22:00] <grubtrouble> ilovefairuz, tell me it will give me a boot menu at bootup in stead of a prompt that i dont undersatnd
[22:00] <magicianlord> youhave to write the image
[22:01] <magicianlord> to copy all
[22:01] <Tall> BrOffice waht wireter pps?
[22:01] <lathan> yeah, someone mentioned !clone, but i don't know what that means
[22:01] <magicianlord> you'd have to use clonezilla or something similar
[22:01] <d9500> lathan, are you in the live-persistent sd session now?
[22:01] <ilovefairuz> grubtrouble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 , there you go, you're on your own from now
[22:01] <lathan> i am
[22:01] <Guest81480> !tab
[22:01] <grubtrouble> :(
[22:01] <lathan> i'm booting up gparted right now
[22:02] <frenchy> is there a way to get HD resolutions for an nvidia card without an xorg.conf?
[22:02] <lathan> my internal HDD is sda and my live-persistent sd is sdc
[22:02] <grubtrouble> dont things like grub get tested before they put an update in the update manager? :/  sorry but i have 0 faith left in it running well
[22:03] <d9500> ok, then the machine sees it as a /dev/sdX device, so you're good. you should, I think (never tried it) be able to use clonezilla in disk-to disk mode to clone the SD t a hard drive.
[22:03] <c3l> frenchy: the nvidia controll center doesnt wkrk?
[22:03] <lathan> would that make the HDD version a live install though? and not a full-install?
[22:03] <irvken> what does it mean if you have agreen dot in front of your nick in the nicklist in xchat
[22:03] <gotroot> Hello, I have a Ubuntu Server.  I have installed IRC-Hybrid, it has compiled and installed fine.  However I can't connect to <IP_ADDRESS>.  How come?
[22:04] <surfereddie> mcphail, you just helping out in here?
[22:04] <mcphail> surfereddie: just lurking tbh
[22:04] <Hilikus> gotroot: are you sure the server's running?
[22:04] <d9500> lathan, is the drive itself a live-only? or totally persistent, so that if you install in app when running ubuntu off the SD, then reboot, the app is still there?
[22:04] <mcphail> surfereddie: i was looking out an nxserver howto i wrote a while ago...
[22:04] <gotroot> Hilikus, how do I double check?
[22:04] <nathanhelp> have anyone upgraded from 9:10 to 10.04 overtop of their previous installation? I've heard some people only like installing each version, from a clean install. What are the pro's and cons to each method?
[22:04] <guntbert> irvken: you are op in that channel
[22:05] <Hilikus> gotroot: ps aux | grep serverName
[22:05] <surfereddie> mcphail - thanks I've been trying to figure it out for days
[22:05] <lathan> yes, it is persistent, that is, if i install something, it is still on my SD when i reboot. however, when ubuntu starts up i still click "test ubuntu" and i want to avoid this with a full install
[22:05] <magicianlord> nathanhelp: quicker to do fresh intall and less conflict.
[22:05] <lathan> but at the same time, i want to keep the changes I made to my SD when I install UNR fully to my HDD
[22:05] <nathanhelp> magicianlord :howso?
[22:05] <iksf> fresh installs never go wrong really, and get fresh new better performance etc
[22:05] <ilovefairuz> nathanhelp: clean install will likely give you a lot less problems, upgrade will keep all your existing settings intact, you can copy your home directory though
[22:06] <surfereddie> mcphail - i'd settle for local connection just so I don't have to switch monitor and keyboard
[22:06] <gotroot> Hilikus, I never set a servername.  I can't find the ircd.conf anywhere.  However, from the looks of ps aux, the server isn't running
[22:06] <mcphail> surfereddie: http://pastebin.com/RB4knjuM - it is a bit out of date as you'll see, but uses google's nx stuff
[22:06] <Hilikus> nathanhelp: i usually upgrade. most of the times i have no problems. the advtanges is that i highly customize everything so a fresh install needs customization all over again
[22:06] <Hilikus> gotroot: servername i mean the name of the process
[22:06] <surfereddie> mcphail - have you ever done it?  I'd hate to switch to another product.
[22:06] <nathanhelp> Hilikus, yes that's where I'm leaning too. (customisation)
[22:06] <gotroot> gotroot    380  0.0  0.0   3320   792 pts/1    S+   22:06   0:00 grep --color=auto irc
[22:07] <mcphail> surfereddie: see my paste - that's how i did it
[22:07] <gotroot> I think that's the server?
[22:07] <Hilikus> gotroot: if the process is called IRC-daemon then to grep IRC-daemon
[22:07] <Hilikus> gotroot: no, that's the grep command
[22:07] <mcphail> surfereddie: i'm not using it at present
[22:07] <z0r0> what are alternative methods for installing ubuntu? Is there a way to run it on the same filesystem as my winxp?
[22:07] <ilovefairuz> gotroot: no, that's 'grep' itself
[22:07] <nathanhelp> is there a way to quickly "copy" customisations onto a new fresh install?
[22:07] <Hilikus> gotroot: look at the last column
[22:07] <gotroot> Ahh, sorry :)
[22:07] <ilovefairuz> !install | z0r0
[22:07] <gotroot> Hilikus:  I don't think it's running.
[22:08] <Hilikus> gotroot:  are you sure the server has irc in its name?
[22:08] <ResQue> goodbye all
[22:08] <lathan> where did my helper go? :-p
[22:08] <ilovefairuz> z0r0: you're probably looking for the wubi method
[22:08] <Hilikus> gotroot: if it's not running you need to start it using "service"
[22:08] <d9500> lathan, cloning will keep the changes, but i'm guessing that there's something on the persistent sd, some kind of script or program that runs at boot, that generates that "try ubuntu" screen, so clozing wouldn't remove it
[22:08] <d9500> cloning*
[22:08] <gotroot> I'm not sure, I downloaded the server from irc-hybrid.com, done ./configure then sudo make && sudo make install
[22:08] <Hilikus> gotroot: sudo service irc_whatever start
[22:08] <z0r0> ilovefairuz: Thanks : )
[22:08] <hiexpo> !wubi > z0r0
[22:09] <Hilikus> gotroot: why are you compiling it?? why not get it from the repos?
[22:09] <gotroot> Hilikus: I followed the tutorial on the ubuntu website.
[22:09] <Hilikus> gotroot: what's the name of the server
[22:09] <jrib> gotroot: where exactly?
[22:09] <erUSUL> !wubi > z0r0
[22:09] <c3l> gotroot: when installing programs, allways try the repos first
[22:09] <IdleOne> gotroot: I suggest you read the irc-hybrid documentation
[22:09] <magicianlord> hmm
[22:09] <frenchy> c3l, it doesnt have HD resolutions
[22:10] <surfereddie> mcphail - whoa that looks good.  but the problem I think is something in my server authorization.  I'm to much of a networking noob
[22:10] <erUSUL> z0r0: ooops sorry; did not see the previous one
[22:10] <hiexpo> erUSUL,  ^
[22:10] <surfereddie> mcphail- thanks again peace
[22:10] <lathan> so, what's the difference between full install and live-persistent, aside from the prompt to try/install ubuntu? i tried to do a full install to the 2GB SD, but it said I needed 2.4 GB free and my SD is only 2GB, so somehow the live-persistent, is only 700MB allowing for 1.3 GB of persistence. What makes the full-install so much bigger?
[22:10] <gotroot> Hilikus, jrib, c31, IdleOne:  I read it from the tutorial here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer
[22:10] <z0r0> erUSUL: no prob.
[22:10] <c3l> frenchy: thats strange, it should have all available resolutions. are you sure your GPU can handle it?
[22:10] <Hilikus> gotroot: use the first method they mentioned, not the second one
[22:10] <IdleOne> gotroot: try /server localhost
[22:11] <hiexpo> live persistant is on an usbdrive   > while a full instakk is on harddrive os
[22:11] <hiexpo> ^install
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  its a trade off of speed and ram ussage.
[22:11] <c3l> lathan: I guess the full one contains all packages unpoacked etc, go for the smaller one if you just want to install
[22:11] <gotroot> IdleOne: It says unable to connect.
[22:11] <Hilikus> gotroot: sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid
[22:11] <gotroot> Hilikus: I will try that now.  Thankyou.
[22:11] <frenchy> c3l, yes it works fine on windows, its going to a rear projection HDTV throught the s-video out
[22:11] <IdleOne> gotroot: then the server is not running
[22:11] <c3l> lathan: it contains all packages, or at least downloads them if any is missing after the install is complete
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  also if you ever try to 'update/upgrade' a live-persis. setup. You will fill up that 1.3gb real real fast
[22:12] <c3l> frenchy: can svideo take hd?
[22:12] <gotroot> Hilikus: Thankyou! :) It works!
[22:12] <c3l> frenchy: im sorry, I dont know much about graphics
[22:12] <lathan> okay, so i guess i will just start over with a full install and just install things again as i need them
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Svideo can not do 'HD' video last i checked. :)
[22:12] <Hilikus> gotroot: if you install from source you don't get all the post-installation configuration and you won't be notified of updates
[22:12] <anon_> In Nautilus, how do I move the tabs to the top?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  a full install may not fit on a 2gb flash. I would suggest a 4 to 8gb at a min
[22:13] <Hilikus> gotroot: always go for packaged installations
[22:13] <gotroot> Hilikus: Thankyou, I will always try the repo's first from now on :)
[22:13] <lathan> Dr_Willis: yeah, my netbook HDD has a 4 GB partition, i will do a full install on that
[22:13] <hiexpo> fulll install is best on an 8 gig
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> lathan:  a  Hute 4gb! :0 I got 5+GB in just wallpaper and fonts. :)
[22:14] <c3l> gotroot: I must ask, why do you want to run your own irc server? there are pleny of servers, a channel or two would suffice
[22:14] <d9500> lathan, yes, what Dr_Willis said. That's not really a lot of space. You may also want to try something like Lubuntu (base ubuntu install but w/ LXDE instead of Gnome) which is a little smaller
[22:14] <wolfric> can someone check this out for me... go cat /bin/rmdir and ctrl + z half way through and tell me what their terminal looks like
[22:14] <lathan> unfortunately, the OS that comes with an EEEPC 901 is horrible. and i don't have many options with the way they used 2 separate drives...
[22:15] <wolfric> it seems to completely screw up the font. if i just rerun the command it fixes it but until then (even logging in and out) it stays all screwed up
[22:15] <erUSUL> wolfric: that's spected
[22:15] <lathan> how do i refer to someone in the chat (i'm using pidgin)?
[22:15] <wolfric> why does it happen?
[22:15] <c3l> lathan: or just skip the whole DE, use some slim wm and youre fine (if youre used to do some tinkering on your own to make things appear as you want)
[22:16] <wolfric> lathan: usually just like this
[22:16] <erUSUL> wolfric: dumping random binary data in a terminal is a secure way to desconfigure it...
[22:16] <lathan> can I click on someone's name or i type it myself?
[22:16] <Hilikus> lathan: most clients have auto completion, type some keys and press tab
[22:16] <hiexpo> lathan,  just like here
[22:16] <wolfric> erusul: could you do anything malicious with it?
[22:16] <erUSUL> wolfric: the binary data has code/char secuences ( scape codes) that reprogram the terminal emulator
[22:17] <lathan> Hilikus: thanks, that worked
[22:17] <hiexpo> ^ = xchat tab
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> wolfric:  use the 'reset' command to reset the terminal back to normal.. and stop catting 'binaries' to the terminal :)
[22:17] <Hilikus> lathan: np
[22:17] <lathan> c3l: what did you mean by skipping the whole DE (?) and use slim wm?
[22:17] <erUSUL> wolfric: you can type "reset" hit enter when that happens ( there is a key combo too iirc )
[22:17] <wolfric> erusul: anyway to prevent it? other than catting binaries :)
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> wolfric:  its printing binary  to the terminal. so its printing escape codes and other special termional codes.
[22:18] <wolfric> i was just curious if they were all compiled or were any shell scripts
[22:18] <gotroot> Hilikus:  Sorry to bother you again, in the ircd.conf it says to encrypt my password using '/usr/bin/mkpasswd' however that doesn't exist on my system...
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> wolfric:  use the 'file' command on a binary.
[22:18] <erUSUL> wolfric: check with "file" first
[22:18] <Hilikus> gotroot: just type that in a terminal and see if ubuntu suggests a package that contains that bin
[22:18] <Hilikus> gotroot: otherwise, google it
[22:19] <gotroot> Hilikus: Tried that, nothing.  Will google.
[22:19] <wolfric> ah thanks @dr_willis @ erusul :)
[22:19] <Hilikus> gotroot: it worked for me
[22:19] <lathan> i guess c3l is gone. So, for my 4 GB partition on my EEEPC 901. would I be better off with UNR or Lubuntu?
[22:19] <Hilikus> gotroot: hilikus@mazinger:~$ mkpasswd
[22:19] <Hilikus> The program 'mkpasswd' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:20] <erUSUL> wolfric: most people do not realize that xterm and its ilk actually are emulating real hardware... (they are colling emulator for a reason )
[22:20] <Hilikus> gotroot: it suggested the right package
[22:20] <c3l> lathan: gnome and KDE are DE (desktop environments) shipped with loads of packages and stuff, if youre short of space you should consider using a lightweight DE as previously stated, or like me for instance. im using xmonad and trayer. thats all I need, and its slim and powerfull :)
[22:21] <c3l> lathan: how familiar are you with linux and so on?
[22:21] <High_Priest> what audio player do you recommend? I was using amarok before while I was on kde but I'd satisfy with some small nice clean player (playlist/controls)
[22:21] <erUSUL> High_Priest: try the default Rhythmbox;
[22:22] <lathan> c3l: uh, not a lot. i can install things, i'm familiar with partitioning, but i don't stray to far from mainstream OSes as they have the most software available
[22:22] <headkase314> High_Priest: Seconded, Rhythmbox - especially with the radio browser addon from the repositories : 1000's of stations!
[22:22] <c3l> lathan: to someone who is familiar with linux and looking for something really lightweight Id suggest archlinux, it doesnt really "just work", it requires some tinkering
[22:22] <c3l> lathan: okay, 4 gig you say. gimme a sec
[22:23] <headkase314> High_Priest: Rhythmbox comes with some radio functionality but the add on is a different one to give many more stations.
[22:23] <nikitis> On modern 10.04, how does one remotely log into a distribution before having to actually log onto gdm?
[22:23] <lathan> c3l: my only problem with less mainstream distros is usually the software that's available. or rather, fewer programs that can be easily installed. (for instance, ubuntu is usually an option when downloading a program).
[22:23] <c3l> lathan: archlinux has it all
[22:24] <c3l> lathan: check gentoo too
[22:24] <lathan> i wanted to try out chromium os, but i don't have a 64-bit to compile the code
[22:24] <lathan> c3l: thanks, i'll check out those two
[22:24] <c3l> or just 'plain' debian. thats what ubuntu is in the core.
[22:26] <karlo> anyone know any program or command (for terminal) which I can see clipboard history ?
[22:27] <c3l> "Damn Small Linux is a very versatile 50MB mini desktop oriented Linux distribution."
[22:27] <lathan> c3l: so will i have to worry about not being able to do something on archlinux that i could easily do on ubuntu? could i use wine for instance?
[22:27] <headkase314> karlo: Check out Pastie -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/pastie-very-simple-clipboard-manager.html
[22:28] <guampa> greets
[22:28] <karlo> headkase314, ty
[22:29] <headkase314> karlo: You're welcome! ;)
[22:29] <c3l> lathan: yeah, all common packages exists in the repos, and alot less common too. the community is really helpful and they have a great wiki where everything can be found. many of my ubuntu probolems and so often have their solution in arch wiki ;)
[22:29] <zeroklone> #topic
[22:29] <zeroklone> join #topic
[22:29] <c3l> and its light!
[22:29] <lathan> c3l: cool, perhaps i'll check it out later
[22:30] <lathan> c3l: how light are we talking?
[22:30] <c3l> lathan: yeah do that, but it expects you to do most of the work, or at least configure it to do it for you :P
[22:31] <guampa> i've searched a lot but to no avail, my logs are full of "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector XYZ", root fs fills up, the vts are unusable. All this is with an audio cd on
[22:31] <guampa> what on earth is it?
[22:32] <janos> some people know if is possible sand command AT^ to modem USB HSDPA UMTS with network manager
[22:32] <hspaans> guampa: if the disc is clean, then or your drive is broken or drm
[22:33] <c3l> guampa: not sure, but sr0 is your cdrom
[22:33] <guampa> it isn't broken, i can read & write discs and this cd isnt drmed
[22:33] <lathan> well, thanks, everyone, for the input. i'll do some review checking and maybe try a lighter distro.
[22:33] <leGally_Mad> hello
[22:34] <hspaans> guampa: a lot of audio disc have drm on them without saying it on the box
[22:35] <guampa> hspaans: this specific disc has a 1% chance of being drmed, i know sounds nonsensical but it's like that
[22:36] <leGally_Mad> i am using ubuntu with wubuilder. can i install lynx on a system and overwrite wubi's folder on root,to get my settings and desktop environment
[22:37] <Sneebs> Hello!
[22:37] <guampa> i'm kind of forced to have a disc in the drive, been 3 o 4 years that ubuntu throws lots of io errors (other kind) if i don't
[22:38] <guampa> and a data  cd wont do as it starts to index or cache something and spins too much
[22:38] <leGally_Mad> anyone can reppy please
[22:39] <mun> hi
[22:39] <Sneebs> Would someone be able to help me with my version of 9.10 semi-crashing the system every time I try to boot from disk?
[22:40] <guampa> these two probs seem to be the last ones i have in my setup, i really wish i could do something about it
[22:40] <mun> does anyone know how to change the default theme for gnome's menu bar? mine's always blue for some reason.
[22:41] <GreenBerry> My friend gave me some Ubuntu disk to try out, but left no instruction on how to use it. Now I can't get my PC to run it.
[22:41] <mun> I meant the bar where 'Applications', 'Places', etc. are
[22:41] <Sneebs> @mun: does this help? http://www.linuxnov.com/replace-default-gnome-menu-bar-with-gnomenu-applet/
[22:41] <Sneebs> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009092300435OSGNSW
[22:41] <Sneebs> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html
[22:42] <Sneebs> @ GreenBerry: what shows up[ when you stick the disk into the drive?
[22:42] <mun> Sneebs, thanks. i'll try that.
[22:42] <Sneebs> I can't make promises, I just googled it.
[22:42] <Sneebs> ;)
[22:42] <GreenBerry> It's a window
[22:43] <guampa> noone with MCP based laptops has had IO errors?
[22:43] <GreenBerry> "Demo and full installation", "Install inside Windows", and "Learn More"
[22:43] <Sneebs> @GreenBerry: so, you stick the disk into the drive, a window pops up (I assume you're running this on a microsofy/windows system
[22:43] <GreenBerry> I am running Windows XP
[22:44] <Sneebs> Lucky man! I'm running Vista, my main reason for making me want to try linux
[22:44] <Sneebs> Go to My Computer, right clikc on your CD rom drive (you know where that is?) and click explore
[22:44] <excitatory> so I have an hp mini 210 netbook, and i've been following forum posts on how to enable some of the multitouch features of the trackpad.. everything is great except i can't click and drag, or drag and highlight.. any ideas?
[22:44] <GreenBerry> K
[22:45] <Sneebs> I'm gonna assume no one can help me with my quandary, then?
[22:46] <muddtusk> I removed my connection, clock, and shutdown/logout items from a panel.  I restored the clock, but I don't see an option to restore the connection and shutdown button (the shutdown button is offered, but doesn't look the same or have options to customize it).
[22:46] <GreenBerry> Alright, It popped up a bunch of folders and Files
[22:46] <edbian> Sneebs, What is a semi crash?  What disk, the hdd or the cd ??
[22:47] <GreenBerry> I'm unsure what to do with this CD
[22:47] <Sneebs> Semi-crash is a term I'm just parroting from another source. it means that when I try loading the thing from disk, the screeen blinks on & off, the keyboards are sluggishly responsive
[22:47] <morpf> hello everyone
[22:47] <GreenBerry> Lol, that's my pc half the time xD
[22:47] <Sneebs> i.e. keystrokes take upwards of minutes to show up
[22:48] <Sneebs> @greenberry: Okay, then
[22:48] <leGally_Mad> can some one hlep me out please
[22:48] <Sneebs> Could you name any .exe files you see
[22:48] <trism> muddtusk: the network applet shows up in the Notification Area, and the shutdown/logout items are in Indicator Applet Session
[22:48] <edbian> Sneebs, This from the CD or the hdd ??
[22:48] <Sneebs> ie.e their names
[22:48] <Sneebs> \This is from Cd, sorrt
[22:48] <Sneebs> &sorry
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx adan0s
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx adan0s adante
[22:48] <FloodBot1> Ackbar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <Ackbar> FloodBot1 5EXAA6174 [4-tea-2] [daemon] [diablo] [mzm] [SW]Dodge`oFF [thor] ^Zaz _bugz_ _GoRDoN_ _iron _KAMI_ _marix _NG _pedda_ _polto_ _ruben _UsUrPeR_ _x[x] `mOOse` A-Non a-work-cat a16BitSoft_ a3Dman Aaron5367 AaronM aaronyy aatish ab abioticrhyme abiy acidblue Ackbar acknopper ada2358 adamkex AdamSewell adamx adan0s adante adobe
[22:49] <progrock> anyone got a prefered CHM viewer for gnome?
[22:49] <Sneebs> So, Green, and .exe files named
[22:49] <Sneebs> ?
[22:49] <GreenBerry> The only .exe is Umenu
[22:49] <muddtusk> Ah, cheers trism.
[22:49] <AaronM> progrock chmsee
[22:49] <progrock> AaronM: thank you
[22:49] <morpf> please help. trying to install ubuntu 10.4 lts alternate amd64 on an hq compaq 6720s i allways get a black screen after choosing install in the menu. vga=788 and fb=false do not solve the problem. any suggestions?
[22:50] <gbillings> I installed UNR on Ubuntu Desktop and now when ever i maximize a proram the window control bar is hidden. How do i fix this?
[22:50] <Sneebs> HmmmOkay, Green. Anyrhing else?
[22:50] <gbillings> morpf, try here http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/107839-ubuntu-loads-then-goes-blank-screen-bahhh.html
[22:51] <GreenBerry> That's the only .exe
[22:51] <scot> Hey, has USB support in Virtualbox been shutoff in the ubuntu packages?
[22:51] <mroziak> #Mitril
[22:51] <morpf> life cd works without a glitch...
[22:51] <iceroot> scot: yes
[22:51] <morpf> only alternate won't do
[22:51] <Sneebs> What about i other non.exe files
[22:51] <trism> scot: not shut off, not included, you need the proprietary version from the virtualbox website
[22:51] <tensorpudding> scot: The USB support isn't included in the OSE is it?
[22:51] <Sneebs> No files called Readme?
[22:51] <iceroot> scot: only the non-free version has usb support
[22:51] <scot> gah
[22:52] <gbillings> morpf, alright. what is the resolution of your monitor?
[22:52] <GreenBerry> There is not a readme, no.
[22:52] <Sneebs> Okay, Green
[22:52] <scot> Why was it disabled, anyone know?
[22:52] <iceroot> scot: it was never enabled
[22:52] <Sneebs> @gbillings: I think this is the problem I had too
[22:52] <iceroot> scot: #vbox for questions like that
[22:52] <daniel_tree> I have an acer 5930g...ubuntu 10.04..and I am experiencing the same problem as this guys...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9660320
[22:53] <morpf> 1280 x 800
[22:53] <scot> iceroot, well I got it from Ubuntu so...ok, i'll ask over there
[22:53] <Sneebs> Green:: ry the demo & install button on the window which came up.
[22:53] <gbillings> Sneebs: do you know of a solution? i am preparing for a fresh reinstall right now.
[22:53] <GreenBerry> K
[22:53] <uRock> scot, probably a ubuntu dependency issue
[22:53] <GreenBerry> It says I need to reboot my machine
[22:53] <iceroot> scot: there was never a usb-version in the ubuntu-repos
[22:53] <Sneebs> @gbillingsL that's why I came here. I don't know of a solution
[22:53] <Sneebs> Wiat a sec green
[22:54] <Sneebs> Wait..... mrof, this uis version 10.X, right
[22:54] <Sneebs> ?