[11:06] <mustard5> I've been checking my firewall settings with www.grc.com and it seems to be showing my ports 21,22 and 113 as being open and not stealthed, is this normal?
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> ./etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf and /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[11:06] <odat> anyone ever used gyach enhanced on ubuntu?
[11:07] <sn9> bluefrog-10: mine turned out to be /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf
[11:07] <dooglus> Marko: if you have a little time, use "debfoster" to strip out all "left over" packages
[11:07] <sn9> bluefrog-10: mine turned out to be /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, sorry typo
[11:07] <Sh|fty> ok iam not running /names in #ubuntu anymore :p
[11:07] <dooglus> mustard5: 21 is FTP, 22 is ssh and 113 is "auth" (whatever that is).  do you mean to be running those services?
[11:08] <mustard5> dooglus, no
[11:08] <Marko> well I've got some extra time right now I guess
[11:08] <dooglus> mustard5: are you sure you're scanning your PC and not your router?
[11:08] <mustard5> I have no ftp server, don't use ssh and don't want 113 open
[11:08] <Hmmmm> mustard5, thanks am checking it out
[11:08] <dooglus> mustard5: perhaps your router is listening on those ports?
[11:08] <mustard5> dooglus, I am on dialup no router that I know of
[11:09] <mustard5> ah ok
[11:09] <bluefrog-10> sn9: dammit. u're right
[11:09] <TokenBad> anyone here use xchat...and a perl script that post your current bandwidth from it?
[11:09] <bluefrog-10> sn9: ty
[11:09] <mustard5> dooglus, I have firestarter set to drop packets silently, but it doesnt seem to be affecting these ports
[11:09] <tti> someone can help me?
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> tti: to do what?
[11:10] <tti> I'm using SASL + LDAP; all worked fine before upgrading to breezy
[11:10] <tti> When logging into my cyrus imap server with thunderbird clients, sometimes sasl correctly authenticate the password; while other times does not, telling 'NULL password received'
[11:11] <dooglus> mustard5: is your IP address <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[11:11] <xukun> do I need to install firewall and antivirus software on my ubuntu system?
[11:11] <bigfoot1> a program i want to use needs libqt3c102-mt . where can i get libqt3c102-mt ?
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> tti: sry not yet on my way to install it
[11:12] <mustard5> let me check
[11:12] <dmlinux> can you run a KDE app on gnome?
[11:12] <dooglus> dmlinux: you can
[11:12] <dmlinux> dooglus how do i do that
[11:12] <Sh|fty> bluefrog: try sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt in console
[11:12] <dooglus> dmlinux: just install it using synaptic or apt-get and run it.  the installer will make sure it downloads whatever KDE libs it needs
[11:13] <sn9> Sh|fty: won't work for .deb deps
[11:13] <Sh|fty> oops :p
[11:13] <bigfoot1> Sh|fty: you talking to me?
[11:13] <tuxedo_kamen> everyone.... I wanted to upgrade to 5.10 using this adress: http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/5.10/ , how can I add it to the repositories? Can anyone please tell me??
[11:13] <Sh|fty> dw about it
[11:13] <ethy> Is there anyway to resize the panels and icons into a smaller scale when using a lower resolution?
[11:13] <dmlinux> dooglus i want to install Klaptop , but its not in synaptic
[11:13] <dooglus> bigfoot1: you could try installing whatever version of the qt libs are in the repositories and then making an empty package called libqt3c102-mt to keep dpkg happy
[11:13] <mustard5> dooglus, whats the easiest way to check my ip?
[11:14] <dooglus> mustard5: the grc site should tell you it when it does the scan
[11:14] <bigfoot1> dooglus: will that work?
[11:14] <mustard5> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:14] <dooglus> bigfoot1: it depends how different the 2 versions of the Qt libs are
[11:14] <bigfoot1> dooglus: which 2 versions?
[11:14] <dooglus> bigfoot1: the version it's asking for, and the version in the ubuntu repositories
[11:15] <bigfoot1> how do i know what version is in the ubuntu repo?
[11:15] <mustard5> dooglus,  <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:15] <dooglus> mustard5: both FTP and ssh close the connection as soon as I connect
[11:15] <bigfoot1> dooglushow do i know what version is in the ubuntu repo?
[11:15] <bigfoot1> dooglus how do i know what version is in the ubuntu repo?
[11:15] <mustard5> hmmm ok dooglus...so its all good?
[11:15] <dooglus> bigfoot1: you type "apt-cache policy <packagename>
[11:15] <mustard5> can I stealth those ports?
[11:15] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  either with synaptic, or with apt-cache show
[11:15] <tuxedo_kamen> I wanted to upgrade to 5.10 using this adress: http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/5.10/ , how can I add it to the repositories? Can anyone please tell me??
[11:16] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  why not use the official repositories?
[11:16] <dooglus> mustard5: well, it's not good that the ports are open if you don't want them to be.  are you running sshd?  "ps -ef | grep ssh"
[11:16] <bigfoot1> dooglus: and the package name is " libqt3c102-mt ", right?
[11:16] <dooglus> bigfoot1: well, no.  but it's something like that...
[11:16] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: use http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/
[11:16] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, in Portugal we have international download limits, and it would be very costy to donwload it from a non-portuguese website!
[11:16] <aftertaf> bigfoot1:  you trying skype?
[11:17] <mustard5> dooglus, I'll put the output in #flood  you in there?
[11:17] <dooglus> bigfoot1: for breezy the package name is "libqt3-mt"
[11:17] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, I don't want the old releases, I want the new ones!
[11:17] <dooglus> I am now mustard5
[11:17] <bigfoot1> aftertaf: no. i already have skype running well. I'm trying to install some softphone that can connect to asterisk servers
[11:17] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  ok. isnt there an official pt.archive.ubuntu.com avaitable?
[11:17] <bigfoot1> aftertaf: now i'm trying kiax
[11:17] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: that is the new
[11:17] <dmlinux> dooglus will intalling alot of KDE stuff hurt gnome?
[11:17] <aftertaf> oki bigfoot1 :)
[11:18] <dooglus> mustard5: that's odd then.  what if you "netstat -lp"?
[11:18] <ethy> bigfoot1: Are you trying to install Skype?
[11:18] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, I don't think so
[11:18] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9 , but when I try to update, it doesn't find 5.10 !
[11:18] <dooglus> dmlinux: define "hurt".  it'll use a bunch of disk space, and if you run a KDE app, the libs will be sitting in memory...
[11:18] <xukun> which firewall and antivirus software are u guys are using?
[11:18] <dooglus> mustard5: "netstat -tlp"
[11:18] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i'm a bit confused. kiax wants  libqt3c102-mt, not  "libqt3-mt". what does  "libqt3-mt" have to do with things?
[11:19] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  can you paste your surces.list to pastebin?
[11:19] <zaydana> can anybody tell me how would i make it so i can read my ntfs partition on a USB2 hard without using sudo?
[11:19] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: let me see your sources.list; pastebin it
[11:19] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:19] <bigfoot1> ethy: no, i've got skype already. i'm trying to install a softphone program called kiax, which can access the asterisk servers..
[11:19] <ethy> bigfoot1: Look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77189
[11:19] <melvztechie> xukun: try firestarter and clamav?
[11:19] <ethy> bigfoot1: Oh ok.
[11:19] <dooglus> bigfoot1: isn't libqt3c102-mt just a specific (old) version of libqt?
[11:19] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I access my sources.list ?
[11:19] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i don't know.
[11:19] <mustard5> dooglus, I'll put it in a pastebin one tick
[11:19] <bigfoot1> dooglus: do you know?
[11:20] <SpiderMan> can somebody help me, i just did my upgrade to breezy, but my screen res wont go higher than 1024x768 anymore
[11:20] <dooglus> bigfoot1: no, I don't...
[11:20] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: its a file in /etc/apt
[11:20] <bigfoot1> dooglus: now that you bring it up, the filenames make me think so.
[11:21] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  there arent any packages in http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/5.10, only ISOs
[11:21] <tuxedo_kamen> here -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3227
[11:21] <bigfoot1> dooglus: okay, i'll give your suggestion a shot. how do i install the "qt libs"?
[11:21] <dmlinux> dooglus thats fine with me, i have plenty of mem and HD space, i just want something i can manually throttle my CPU with for gnome, but i have to use this KDE app
[11:21] <dooglus> bigfoot1: "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"?
[11:21] <mustard5> dooglus, pasted the new one in flood
[11:21] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: yours still says "hoary" everywhere. that's 5.04
[11:21] <aftertaf> ok tuxedo_kamen , looking .
[11:21] <dooglus> mustard5: there's nothing listening on 22 or 23
[11:22] <zaydana> can somebody tell me how i can set my usb hard drive to readable by non-root in 5.10 ?
[11:22] <tuxedo_kamen> hum... so, how can I upgrade to 5.10 ?
[11:22] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  all the lines like deb ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/ hoary universe........
[11:22] <mustard5> dooglus, why would they be open do you think?
[11:22] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: all you have to do is change "hoary" to "breezy"
[11:22] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  have you tried changing each from hoary to breezy?
[11:22] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, ok... are you sure it is safe?
[11:22] <dooglus> mustard5: are you sure you're scanning your PC and not someone elses?
[11:22] <aftertaf> zaydana:  does it automount?
[11:22] <dooglus> mustard5: for instance, do you use a proxy to access the web?
[11:22] <bigfoot1> dooglus: okay, i have it already. now how do i do this empty package thing?
[11:23] <bigfoot1> dooglus: and, is it safe to do so?
[11:23] <dooglus> bigfoot1: now you're asking...  :)
[11:23] <zaydana> aftertaf - yup
[11:23] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  try it, either its safe, or breezy aint on there.
[11:23] <mustard5> dooglus, I'm using squid connected to my isp proxy
[11:23] <aftertaf> zaydana:  and when it does, no rights as normal user?
[11:23] <zaydana> but it mounts as only readable by root
[11:23] <zaydana> aftertaf - yup
[11:23] <dooglus> mustard5: when you go to grc.com, it sees your proxy connecting to it, and thinks that's you.  when you ask it to scan your pc, it's actually scanning your ISP.  your ISP has those ports open, not you.
[11:23] <bigfoot1> dooglus: my ears are open, sir.
[11:23] <dooglus> mustard5: type "ifconfig eth0" to see your IP address
[11:24] <mustard5> dooglus ah hehehe ok
[11:24] <aftertaf> zaydana:  try creating a mount point with /etc/fstab and giving users the rights....
[11:24] <aftertaf> !mount
[11:24] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:24] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I'm looking into it...  I'm thinking "checkinstall" might be able to do it, but I'll get back to you
[11:24] <bigfoot1> dooglus: "now you're asking...": does that mean you don't know whether it's safe?
[11:24] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, perhaps you didn't understand my question... is it safe to use the new version? Will it keep my ssh open, as it is now?
[11:24] <zaydana> k, ta
[11:24] <aftertaf> mustard5:  grc is FUD
[11:24] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i'll be right here. but it's not going to do any permanent damage, yes?
[11:24] <mustard5> aftertaf, :)
[11:24] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  should do no problem yeah, you connecting to it now via ssh?
[11:24] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: the new version has reached stable status
[11:25] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I'm no expert - but I reckon it'll be safe enough.
[11:25] <mustard5> dooglus, pasted ifconfig output in #flood
[11:25] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  ^^which means it only breaks things we know about ;)
[11:25] <dooglus> mustard5: just "ifconfig" then?
[11:25] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, I connect from university to my house by ssh, so that I don't spend much of my internet limit! :D
[11:26] <bigfoot1> dooglus: i'll be right here waiting for you.
[11:26] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  hehe. down wth restrictions and facsism in general !!!
[11:26] <dooglus> mustard5: see the ip address in the ppp0 section?  that's you
[11:26] <leagris> hi all
[11:26] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  it should be ok...... though it will restart the ssh server at some point during upgrade.
[11:26] <tuxedo_kamen> aftertaf, it's really dumb... in portugal, we can only download 1~2 international GB per month, depending on the connection
[11:26] <Kleggas> anyone here tried to run cedega under breezy using radeon dri drivers?
[11:27] <Seveas> tuxedo_kamen, then use a portuguese mirror :)
[11:27] <aftertaf> Seveas:  he is trying to :)
[11:27] <leagris> how do you mount /media/cederom in shell as a user using dbus udev ?
[11:27] <mustard5> dooglus, me looking...
[11:27] <Seveas> #
[11:27] <Seveas> ![Portugal]  [WWW]  ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/
[11:27] <Seveas> #
[11:27] <Seveas> ![Portugal]  [WWW]  http://darkstar.ist.utl.pt/ubuntu/archive/
[11:27] <ubotu> No idea, Seveas
[11:27] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[11:27] <Seveas> meh
[11:28] <bigfoot1> what's the opossite of QT libraries? Kubuntu uses QT. what does ubuntu/gnome use?
[11:28] <leagris> in kde  can type url media://cdrom but how about in cmd line ?  mount only allowd by root
[11:28] <dooglus> mustard5: remember about half an hour ago when I said "is your IP address <IP_ADDRESS>?"  :)
[11:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, GTK+
[11:28] <aftertaf> loool :)
[11:28] <mustard5> dooglus, yes :)
[11:28] <bigfoot1> Seveas: G stands for gnome?
[11:28] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ does exist....
[11:28] <aftertaf> gimp
[11:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no, gimp
[11:28] <tuxedo_kamen> strange
[11:28] <tuxedo_kamen> Seveas, those are the ones I am using! :D
[11:29] <bigfoot1> Seveas: are you serieus.
[11:29] <bigfoot1> serious?
[11:29] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  but it doesnt have a .pt dns ending. so might not be considered noninternational
[11:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yup, it
[11:29] <dooglus> mustard5: I tried scanning you there, but got nothing.
[11:29] <frans-th> hi all, anyone can tell me the difference ubuntu 5.1 with edubuntu?
[11:29] <mustard5> dooglus, so basically grc.com is wrong
[11:29] <Seveas> it's the 'gimp toolkit' and was originally developed for the gimp
[11:30] <volvoguy> can you safely force unmount a samba shared drive? this bugger doesn't want to unmount.
[11:30] <mustard5> thats fabulous dooglus, thanks for that
[11:30] <Seveas> frans-th, edubuntu5.10 is ubuntu5.10 suited for LTSP environments
[11:30] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, I think I am updating it...
[11:30] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: you don't need to change mirrors to change from 5.04 to 5.10
[11:30] <mustard5> its freakin me out for a while trying to work itout
[11:30] <Seveas> volvoguy, no it might kill your cat :)
[11:30] <volvoguy> Seveas, dang.
[11:30] <obontu> hello. what are metathemes?
[11:30] <frans-th> Seveas: i got that ubuntu 5.1.0 breeze have ltsp feature :) which i am now learning to use it
[11:30] <Seveas> frans-th, correct, but in the edubuntu that is the primary focus
[11:31] <volvoguy> Seveas, which cat? that one's getting kinda old anyway.
[11:31] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, but I had hoary...
[11:31] <Seveas> but since it all comes from the same pool, ubuntu and kubuntu have it too
[11:31] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: breezy is on the same mirrors as hoary
[11:31] <aftertaf> mv cat /dev/null
[11:31] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  keep yourmirrors, change all instances of hoary to breezy in your sources.list and apt-get update like a linux addict :)
[11:32] <tuxedo_kamen> I didn't changed mirrors, I just changed the word....
[11:32] <volvoguy> how about a way to figure out why the device is busy?
[11:32] <frans-th> Seveas: i think, to put edubuntu for kindergarten is a good step right
[11:32] <Seveas> volvoguy, lsof /mount/point/of/drive
[11:32] <volvoguy> Seveas, thx.
[11:32] <Seveas> volvoguy, probably it's gam_server
[11:32] <phiqtion> what's the command to change my screen resolution?
[11:32] <aftertaf> tuxedo_kamen:  good.   update then upgrade, and do it from within screen, that way tou can disconnect ssh and reconnect :)
[11:33] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: after you "sudo apt-get update" you should "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:33] <tuxedo_kamen> strange.... well, brb
[11:33] <frans-th> Seveas: but can we integate with ubuntu ?
[11:33] <leagris> volvoguy, sudo fuser -v /sambashare
[11:33] <aftertaf> use screen for everything :)
[11:34] <leagris> will show you if a process has a lock on the mount
[11:34] <phiqtion> what's the command to change my screen resolution? in the terminal. thanks
[11:34] <volvoguy> Seveas, leagris, i'm getting no output from either command.
[11:34] <phiqtion> xserv?
[11:34] <sn9> phiqtion: fbset
[11:35] <sn9> phiqtion: oh you mean in X?
[11:35] <phiqtion> yes
[11:35] <sn9> phiqtion: no command. just press ctrl-alt-keypad-+
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> strange, it didn't update my version! :|
[11:36] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: after you "sudo apt-get update" you should "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I check my current one?
[11:36] <dtamas> how can Gmail Notifier start automatically after gmail login?
[11:36] <phiqtion> sn9, no sorry. not for X. for that black screen.
[11:36] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, yeah, I did that!
[11:36] <dtamas> not gmail login, gdm login :)
[11:36] <generalleoff> k I did not know that... ctrl-alt-keypad +/- is nice
[11:37] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: let me see your new sources.list
[11:37] <phiqtion> sn9, no sorry. not for X. for that black screen.
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> it's equal to the old one, except for the breezy instead of hoary|!
[11:37] <sn9> phiqtion: fbset
[11:37] <tuxedo_kamen> it updated some components, but not my version!
[11:37] <volvoguy> Seveas, "lsof: status error on /media/music: Input/output error"
[11:37] <phiqtion> it says, fbset, command not found
[11:38] <phiqtion> sn9: it says, fbset, command not found
[11:38] <volvoguy> Seveas, how bad would it be to unmount the drive on the server end?
[11:38] <sn9> phiqtion: install the pkg that has it
[11:38] <Seveas> volvoguy, just umount -f it on the client side
[11:38] <volvoguy> Seveas, it seems only the samba stuff is hosed.
[11:38] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: let me see your new sources.list
[11:38] <phiqtion> sn9, how. i cant get in X. i need to download it from that black screen
[11:38] <volvoguy> Seveas, -f didn't work.
[11:39] <tuxedo_kamen> here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3228
[11:39] <sn9> phiqtion: sudo apt-get install fbset
[11:40] <tuxedo_kamen> maybe the new version isn't available in the servers yet?
[11:40] <Seveas> unmount -f --try-harder --unmount-my-drive-damn-you
[11:40] <Seveas> ;)
[11:41] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: very strange. dist-upgrade should have upgraded everything after update
[11:41] <volvoguy> dang. even with the drive unmounted on the server end, i can't unmount the samba share on the client. i think it may be time for a logout/login here.
[11:41] <tuxedo_kamen> like I was saying, maybe the new version isn't available in the servers yet?
[11:41] <Seveas> volvoguy, mounting problems may even require a reboot
[11:42] <geoffTheFish> i have installed amarok but am getting some funky error about dcopserver not running
[11:42] <volvoguy> Seveas, ok. I'll BRB. :-)
[11:43] <leagris> how do I mont /media/cdrom as a user in cmd line ?
[11:43] <leagris> is ther an iquivalent of media://cdrom ?
[11:44] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: i just looked at the mirror, and everything appears to be there
[11:45] <Sh|fty> :o
[11:45] <Marko> leagris: you use the mount command.  You have to mount something in your dev folder to wherever you want it mounted
[11:45] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: i figured out your problem!
[11:46] <dtamas> How can autostart porograms?
[11:46] <generalleoff> is there anything for Linux that can fine tune my monitor res/refresh in real time like PowerStrip on Windows?
[11:46] <leagris> Marko, I know the old way to mount block devices as root but how about the removable hting equivallent to media:// usable as a user ?
[11:46] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: you need "main restricted" in breezy, not just breezy-security
[11:46] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, what is it?
[11:46] <morphix> can anyone help me with apache & configuring to use cgi? pm me plz if so.. thanks
[11:47] <tuxedo_kamen> sn9, should I add main restricted to everything?
[11:48] <Marko> leagris.  That is actually a really good question that I am also looking to find the answer to.  Sorry I can't be more helpful
[11:48] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: add it to the universe lines
[11:48] <dmlinux> Anyone here use Emifreq?
[11:48] <tuxedo_kamen> and do I remove the "universe" word?
[11:48] <Profeta> how to change the grub appearence ? Here its black and white!
[11:48] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: no
[11:49] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: "main restricted universe"
[11:49] <phiqtion> Profeta: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:49] <Sh|fty> that site rox
[11:49] <tuxedo_kamen> what about the "multiverse"? Should I add it there, too?
[11:49] <Sh|fty> its outdated for some parts
[11:49] <Sh|fty> but it rox
[11:49] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: you can leave that alone
[11:49] <tuxedo_kamen> ok
[11:49] <stimpie> someone knows how to disable the trash-bin on removable media?
[11:49] <Profeta> phiqtion, thanks
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> well, I'll try now, but it seems better
[11:50] <phiqtion> Profeta: np
[11:50] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: after you "sudo apt-get update" again, you should "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again
[11:50] <pschulz01> Greetings.. what rss client do ubuntu people use/prefer?
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O
[11:50] <tuxedo_kamen> obtaining package 3 of 992
[11:51] <tuxedo_kamen> is this normal? O_o
[11:51] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: kubuntu user, but i use akregator
[11:51] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: yes
[11:51] <Hobbsee> tuxedo_kamen: for a dist upgrade?   yep
[11:51] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: do you know how this comapres with yarssr
[11:51] <dmlinux> sn9 can you tell me what http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3229 means :(
[11:52] <phiqtion> how do i use fbset? i need to bring up the X server in VMWARE.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: sorry, no, never heard of yarssr
[11:52] <Profeta> phiqtion, good guide, but there isnt the answer for my question :(
[11:52] <Ng> dmlinux: install libglib2.0-dev
[11:52] <sn9> phiqtion: "man fbset" should tell you
[11:53] <Sh|fty> :o
[11:53] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: Yet another rss reader.
[11:53] <phiqtion> Profeta: yes it is, i will get it now for you.
[11:53] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: it looks nice, for gnome obviously, not sure if it'll notify you of new feeds...
[11:53] <dmlinux> ng trying that :)
[11:53] <TTilus> bigfoot1: sorry the delay
[11:53] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: does the kubuntu reader do that?
[11:54] <rempresent> has anyone installed the ati driver in breezy, there isn't anything on it in the wiki
[11:54] <TTilus> bigfoot1: page does not tell about debian version the deb is for
[11:54] <dmlinux> NG gtk+2.0 ?
[11:54] <tuxedo_kamen> well, I am updating it
[11:54] <tuxedo_kamen> just hope this doesn't ruin my ssh! >_<
[11:55] <mishof> how do i extract a .gz file ? (not .tar.gz)
[11:55] <Ng> mishof: gunzip
[11:55] <sn9> mishof: gunzip
[11:55] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: yes, i think other rss readers would do it too.  akregator requires kde
[11:55] <mishof> Ng, sn9 thanks
[11:55] <TTilus> bigfoot1: temporarily adding universe and multiverse to your repositories could help
[11:55] <phiqtion> Profeta: http://ubuntuguide.org/#convertwallpapertosplashimagegrub
[11:55] <TTilus> bigfoot1: ...to satisfy the dependencies
[11:55] <dmlinux> NG http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3230
[11:56] <tuxedo_kamen> hey, I am curious about something... what is universe and multiverse?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !tell tuxedo_kamen about repositories
[11:56] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: isn't firefox ment to support rss?
[11:56] <Marko> anyone tried gnomoradio?
[11:56] <phiqtion> Profeta: http://ubuntuguide.org/#displaysplashimagegrub
[11:56] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: it does
[11:56] <Ng> dmlinux: for each of those "checking for" things it lists, you will need the corresponding -dev package installed
[11:56] <dmlinux> Ng can i use synapstic to dl them
[11:56] <sn9> TTilus: bigfoot1 already has uni- and multi-
[11:57] <Marko> I get "Audio::Ogg: libao failed to open audio device
[11:57] <Marko> " when I play something in gnomoradio
[11:57] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: not managed to be able to get it to notify me of new feeds, but havent tried hard, it's probably simple enough
[11:57] <pschulz01> hobbsee: Hmmm.. I'll have to try that out..
[11:57] <TTilus> sn9: mm
[11:57] <tuxedo_kamen> another thing... how can I join the official translation team?
[11:57] <dmlinux> Ng i guess not, how do i find these DEB packages.
[11:57] <pschulz01> Anyone else using or can recommend and rss reader?
[11:57] <phiqtion> sn9: how do i exit that Man guide and go back to the terminal?
[11:57] <Profeta> phiqtion, 1x0 for you
[11:57] <tuxedo_kamen> phiqtion, press "q"
[11:58] <pschulz01> Hobbsee: Does it support 'podcasts'.
[11:58] <TTilus> bigfoot1: if you already have uni- and multi- you propably gotta go for debian testing repositories
[11:58] <Hobbsee> pschulz01: no idea, checked google for it?
[11:58] <TTilus> bigfoot1: however, be informed that you are on somewhat thin ice
[11:58] <Ng> dmlinux: syanptic should be fine, search for "libgnomeui" for example and you'll see libgnomeui-dev, which is the one you need if oyu want to compile something that uses it
[11:59] <zaydana> does anybody have any idea why dns keeps resolving everything to <IP_ADDRESS> in 5.10?
[11:59] <zaydana> whereas on the same machine in windows
[11:59] <zaydana> same settings
[11:59] <zaydana> i get the right address
[11:59] <sn9> dmlinux: what are you compiling?
[11:59] <dmlinux> sn9 emifreq
[11:59] <TTilus> bigfoot1: if you _really_ want, you can grab packages from deb repos, but make sure you make it strictly temporarily
[11:59] <egoleo> i have a dvd movie titled Solaris
[11:59] <egoleo> i want to watch it with my Ubuntu breezy
[12:00] <egoleo> but it gives me this error
[12:00] <TTilus> bigfoot1: in general its not particularily good idea to install something other than supported ubuntu debs
[12:00] <egoleo> that the movie is encryted
[12:00] <egoleo> can someone help me as to how to go abt it
[12:00] <sn9> dmlinux: why not just apt-get install it?
[12:00] <egoleo> to watch
[12:00] <dmlinux> sn9 the new version isnt on it
[12:00] <Ng> egoleo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:00] <TTilus> bigfoot1: not that people (including myself) wouldnt do that :)
[12:00] <tuxedo_kamen> how can I join the official translation team?
[12:00] <bArAk> Hi! i upgraded from hoary to breezy - everything is cool except for random locks of the machine! only reboot recovers from it - any idea?
[12:01] <TTilus> bArAk: logs?
[12:01] <sn9> dmlinux: then you need to do "sudo apt-get build-dep emifreq"
[12:01] <TTilus> anything interesting there
[12:01] <egoleo> Ng trying that
[12:01] <bArAk> nothing on the logs - the box just freezes !
[12:01] <phiqtion> sn9, can i set up the X server with the ubuntu installation CD?
[12:01] <Underhill> what were you doing when it freezes?
[12:01] <TTilus> bArAk: nothing?  theres always something!
[12:01] <dmlinux> sn9 hmm
[12:01] <TTilus> bArAk: what are last things before freeze?
[12:02] <bArAk> i searched alot on google and the forums - i almost thought i had it when i took off "powernowd" from running.. but last night i had another freeze
[12:02] <dmlinux> sn9 does that seek out the new version?
[12:02] <TTilus> bArAk: can you log in remotely?  can you switch to text console?
[12:02] <sn9> phiqtion: it should have set up an X server when you installed
[12:02] <tuxedo_kamen> >_>
[12:02] <tuxedo_kamen> nobody knows the answer?
[12:02] <bArAk> ttilus - nothing special - sometimes while surfing the web - sometimes when i return to the box and it is freezed on the screen saver..
[12:02] <sn9> dmlinux: it installs all the pkgs you need to compile
[12:02] <phiqtion> sn9: im trying to run ubuntu in vmware. the x server doesn't start. can you help me?
[12:03] <TTilus> tuxedo_kamen: doesn't ubuntu website help you?
[12:03] <rem> hey, anyone knows of a program to modify pdf files .. ?
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> i don't know...
[12:03] <sn9> phiqtion: what's the error?
[12:03] <bArAk> ttilus - nothing ! it is freezed, locked up ! :/
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> i just wanted to join the team!
[12:03] <dmlinux> sn9 i have the one from synaptic, so idk :( ill try that once this is down downloading
[12:03] <sn9> tuxedo_kamen: there are instructions on how to join on the website
[12:03] <TTilus> bArAk: can you log in remotely?  can you switch to text console?
[12:03] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, ok
[12:03] <bArAk> ttilus - nope
[12:04] <TTilus> tried remotely?
[12:04] <bArAk> ttilus - i found another guy on the forums with the sape problem
[12:04] <rem> hey, anyone knows of a program to modify pdf files .. ?
[12:04] <TTilus> bArAk: try running without X for a while
[12:04] <bArAk> oh remotely - no - i will try next time it freezes
[12:05] <Ng> rem: there pretty much aren't any. Adobe Acrobat can make limited modifications, otherwise you will need to import it into a graphics package and export it again afterwards
[12:05] <TTilus> bArAk: aahhh... try it, if you can get in you can poke around and see whats locked
[12:05] <bArAk> ttilus - if i'll draw back to the hoary kernel - i'll lose some major upgrades of breezy?
[12:05] <morphix> ok.. can someone PLEASE help.. all i need is to know is what i have to change in apache config to allow cgi's to be executed.
[12:05] <TTilus> bArAk: ive got a feeling that its x
[12:05] <ompaul> bArAk, make sure before it freezes that you have the sshd setup so that you can log in :)
[12:06] <TTilus> ompaul: good point
[12:06] <rem> i read flpsed could do it, but it couldnt open my pdf file .. :( ...ok
[12:06] <bArAk> ompaul - oh right, it is not default, thnx ;]
[12:06] <ompaul> bArAk, as I found out to my cost :-)
[12:06] <TTilus> bArAk: ive had one complete freeze with ubuntu
[12:06] <bArAk> :]
[12:06] <phiqtion> :D
[12:06] <bArAk> ttilus - and if it is X, how do i reinstall it ?
[12:06] <TTilus> bArAk: that was ati (proprietary) display driver
[12:06] <sn9> phiqtion: what's the error?
[12:07] <bArAk> hmmm, i'm using intel built in - it's ibm pentium M thinkpad
[12:07] <TTilus> bArAk: reinstall?  i would try to use comp without x and see if it still locks up
[12:07] <TTilus> bArAk: then propably (if it is x) go and drop configuration to minimum (leave out modules and go for vga driver)
[12:07] <bArAk> ttilus - sure, but what should i do if it will probably be a x trouble ?
[12:07] <bArAk> oh
[12:08] <phiqtion> sn9: failed to start the X server
[12:08] <bArAk> i'll have to figure out how i do that
[12:08] <zaydana> has anmybody got any idea why dns would only be working in firefox in 5.10?
[12:08] <zaydana> i get <IP_ADDRESS> when i try to resolve anything not in firefox
[12:08] <TTilus> bArAk: sudo emacs /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[12:08] <sn9> phiqtion: i mean what are the EE lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:08] <zax> how do i mount my usb drive
[12:09] <bArAk> ttilus - ok, thnx a lot. i'll start with the remot login ... ! ;]
[12:09] <TTilus> bArAk: :D
[12:09] <zax> mount /dev/sda ?
[12:09] <zax> something
[12:09] <zax> i need 2 specifiy file sys 2
[12:09] <Marko> zaydana: does it have that IP address when you try to ping a server?
[12:09] <TTilus> bArAk: there must be fancy gui conf gizmos floating around, but i dont really use them so i dont know about them
[12:09] <zaydana> hmm, i don't think so
[12:09] <zaydana> i think ping works as well
[12:10] <ompaul> zaydana, what ip do you get when you cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:10] <zaydana> i have <IP_ADDRESS> in resolv.conf
[12:10] <ompaul> zaydana, for the nameserver
[12:10] <Marko> zaydana: so what doesn't work?
[12:10] <zax> how do u mount the usb external drive
[12:10] <zaydana> well, for a start
[12:10] <zax> its so easy i forget htough
[12:10] <zaydana> x-chat resiolves _everything_ to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:10] <zaydana> synapse does the same
[12:10] <dm_> sn9 hey can you tell me that command for the deb
[12:10] <zaydana> firefox will actually resolve stuff properly
[12:10] <sn9> dm_: to install?
[12:11] <dm_> sn9 yeah you told me a command to update all the devs or something
[12:11] <ompaul> zaydana, have you some firewall in place?
[12:11] <zaydana> nup
[12:11] <dm_> sn9 my comp crashed, was doing too much at once :P
[12:11] <zaydana> i'm running on a router tho
[12:11] <zaydana> however -
[12:11] <sn9> dm_: you're confusing me
[12:11] <ompaul> zaydana, does it have rules?
[12:11] <zaydana> everything reslved properly in 5.04
[12:11] <zaydana> and it all resolves properly in windows
[12:11] <zaydana> so its definitely a 5.10 problem
[12:12] <dm_> sn9 you told me soeme apt-get install deb
[12:12] <SamStar> Hey, how can i setup default programs to open for instance mp3's he's now using totem vid player and i want to use XMMS
[12:12] <ompaul> zaydana, a few obvious questions to help ones brain try to picture what has and has not happened
[12:12] <zaydana> ompaul - do you think it cuold possibly be to do with ipv6?
[12:12] <shinu> how do i make my 'backspace' work properly, for example in a manpage when i do a search with / it doesnt let me use it.
[12:12] <sn9> dm_: what did you want to install?
[12:12] <zax> mount /dev/sda ?
[12:12] <ompaul> zaydana, ifconfig and see if you have an ipv4 address
[12:13] <zaydana> the ipv4 addrses is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:13] <zaydana> ompaul - btw, i'm in windows atm. i can't use x-chat cos of no dns
[12:13] <zaydana> i shuold probably write down the ip and come back
[12:13] <dm_> sn9 emifreq, but remember i told you i needed the new version and synaptic didnt have the new version
[12:13] <SamStar> Hey, how can i setup default programs to open for instance mp3's he's now using totem vid player and i want to use XMMS
[12:13] <ompaul> zaydana, okay so boot it and check that
[12:13] <zaydana> but yeah - i know its got an ip address
[12:14] <zax> how do u mount the usb external drive
[12:14] <zaydana> cos i set it all up manually (/etc/network/interfaces)
[12:14] <zaydana> with static
[12:14] <ompaul> zaydana, have you two machines?
[12:14] <dm_> zax if you are using breezy, it should do it for you
[12:14] <zaydana> 3.
[12:14] <sn9> dm_: i told you to "sudo apt-get build-dep emifreq" to install what you would need in order to compile
[12:14] <oscarh> hi, does anyone know the status of the keyboard layout problems? which is the correct bug report for this?
[12:14] <Marko> samstar:right click an mp3.  Select properties.  select open with tab
[12:14] <ompaul> zaydana, do any others run ubuntu?
[12:14] <dm_> sn9 thats it thank you
[12:14] <zax> i doesnt i just forgot the command
[12:14] <zaydana> not atm
[12:14] <zaydana> plus i only got an intall cd, not a live
[12:15] <zaydana> ompaul - i'm gonna boot into ubuntu ... brb
[12:15] <ompaul> zaydana, how about doing this, get a liveCD and see if it can bring the box up, if it can't
[12:15] <dm_> mount :P
[12:15] <ompaul> so much for that
[12:15] <vinboy> hi guys
[12:15] <Sh|fty> bbs food :D
[12:15] <zax> com one
[12:15] <vinboy> is there any nice mail notification applet?
[12:15] <SamStar> Marko, Thx :)
[12:15] <mahangu_> vinboy, yes there is
[12:15] <augustin> hello
[12:16] <SamStar> are there some shooter games for Linux ?
[12:16] <vinboy> mahangu, any good suggestion?
[12:16] <mahangu_> vinboy, apt-cache search mail notification applet
[12:16] <dazvid> SamStar, ut2k4 has a native linux installed on the cd/dvd
[12:16] <mahangu_> vinboy, or synaptic
[12:16] <vinboy> mahangu, thanks
[12:16] <ompaul> SamStar, you can also do americas army
[12:16] <dazvid> SamStar, also check out "Nexuiz" its ok.. nothing like Hl2 or whatever
[12:16] <mahangu_> vinboy, np
[12:16] <dazvid> oh oh and Doom3
[12:16] <mahangu_> ompaul, america's army is OS?
[12:17] <mahangu_> or it's commercial for linux?
[12:17] <dazvid> im currently installing HL2 though (finally)
[12:17] <ompaul> os
[12:17] <mahangu_> what?
[12:17] <augustin> i want to set-up a Wi-Fi link between two machines, one under Ubuntu, the other under WinXP. Ubuntu would act as a gateway for the XP machine.
[12:17] <mahangu_> synaptic?
[12:17] <Marko> vinboy: I use mail-notification.  I really want to use the 2.0 version, but I couldn't get all the libraries to compile it
[12:17] <zax> its a fat32
[12:17] <Seveas> augustin, then install firestarter n the ubuntu machine
[12:17] <augustin> anything i should know ? or is it easy to do ? also, will two regular Wi-Fi card be enough (the comps are close to each other), for example USB Wi-Fi cards ?
[12:17] <ompaul> na its a download from their site - actually I'm not sure about the openness of it now that I think about it
[12:18] <augustin> Seveas, already done, since i already use it as a gateway, but through an Ethernet card
[12:18] <Marko> I fear america's army.  I'm far too draftable to play that
[12:18] <vinboy> Marko, :)
[12:18] <leagris> America's army yep, propaganda softaware it is :)
[12:18] <ompaul> this is it
[12:18] <ompaul> totally propaganda
[12:18] <augustin> i just wanted if i had something to know BEFORE i buy the Wi-Fi card, like "Ubuntu doesn't recognize Sony Wi-Fi laptop cards" =)
[12:19] <dazvid> Funny thing is, the army doesn't deny it being propaganda :)
[12:19] <zaydana> ompaul, i'm in ubuntu now
[12:19] <ompaul> zaydana, the bad box ?
[12:19] <leagris> frozen bubble, is less likely propaganda though ;o)
[12:19] <zaydana> yup
[12:19] <Marko> totally
[12:19] <ompaul> zaydana, when bad boxes go good ??
[12:19] <zaydana> no
[12:19] <zaydana> remember how ping works?
[12:20] <zaydana> i pinged the irc server, got the address, and connected manually :)
[12:20] <ompaul> zaydana, icmp
[12:20] <zaydana> synaptic and x-chat are still having troubles getting anything except <IP_ADDRESS> out of it
[12:20] <zaydana> yah
[12:20] <mahangu_> anybody else here played america's army?
[12:20] <ompaul> zaydana, and it has an ipv4 address but nothing is resolving
[12:20] <zaydana> yeah
[12:21] <zaydana> well, it resolvse in firefox
[12:21] <zaydana> that is the weird thing
[12:21] <leagris> zaydana, lightweight irc client: telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 :)
[12:21] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell augustin about wifi
[12:21] <zaydana> heh k
[12:21] <zaydana> ok, thats weird
[12:21] <zaydana> telnet resolves the address
[12:21] <Marko> hey I can't have the audio from frozen bubble at the same time as rhythmbox.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[12:21] <ompaul> zaydana, okay that looks like something is strange in your setup
[12:21] <zaydana> ompaul, actually...
[12:21] <ompaul> zaydana, very strange
[12:22] <zaydana> it resolves the address properly after you ping the address
[12:22] <zaydana> but before you ping the address, <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:22] <Marko> says "failed to close audio output sink
[12:22] <leagris> how about: dig irc.freenode.net +trace to actually show how it resolves ?
[12:22] <SamStar> how can i open java apps ?
[12:22] <dooglus> jeez.  I just portscanned myself (the router) using grc.com and found that port 80 was open.  I connected to port 80 and got a login prompt, telling me default:admin/1234.  tried it, and it worked.  then tried it from an external shell and it also worked!  my router was set up with default admin login and password globally accessible
[12:22] <zaydana> or not
[12:22] <zaydana> gah this is pissing me off
[12:23] <zaydana> yeah i was right...
[12:23] <dooglus> Marko: use a different sound system  ALSA maybe
[12:23] <ompaul> zaydana, okay got etherreal on the box or on the network?
[12:23] <zaydana> nup, whats that?
[12:23] <Marko> I am using alsa :(
[12:23] <ompaul> zaydana, a packet sniffer, it will tell you the conversation that is being tried by the machine
[12:23] <dooglus> Marko: for both programs?
[12:24] <mahangu_> torcs loads up, but when i click start race, it just disappears
[12:24] <mahangu_> any ideas?
[12:24] <SamStar> How can i run Java games
[12:24] <zaydana> k
[12:24] <SamStar> games = apps
[12:24] <SamStar> like Azureus ?
[12:24] <ompaul> zaydana, you need to have scrolling output on the screen and log it so see the conversations
[12:24] <Marko> I open the multimedia selector and press the test button when frozen bubble is open and it gives the same error.  Maybe I need to change a setting in frozen bubble
[12:24] <sn9> SamStar: did you install java?
[12:24] <zaydana> ompaul, hmmk, il'l try get it with synapse
[12:24] <ompaul> zaydana, don't know it
[12:25] <SamStar> nope, so h ow do i do install java ;)
[12:25] <zaydana> synaptic*
[12:25] <sn9> !tell SamStar about w32deb
[12:25] <JimTimBim> Hi, is just installed 5.1 and during boot it stops at "Starting hotplug subsystem" on my deaktop (intel D915GLVG). any idea what I can do about that? (and i am new to linux)
[12:25] <mahangu_> i want to try some really heavy games
[12:25] <mahangu_> any ideas?
[12:25] <ompaul> sn9, w32codecs
[12:25] <duckspeak> re-boot
[12:25] <mahangu_> graphically hungry i mean
[12:26] <leagris> j2re is what you need to run java applications
[12:26] <zaydana> ompaul, the other thing is (dunno if it is any help) is that every time i reboot the dns server address resets back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:26] <phiqtion> sn9: about the X server... "No devices detected"
[12:26] <SamStar> sn8, whitch one do i need to download ?
[12:26] <zaydana> so i need to manually change it to <IP_ADDRESS> every time
[12:26] <Marko> games are the only reason I dual boot
[12:26] <dm_> n9 hey can you repeat that apt-get one more time please
[12:26] <sn9> ompaul: for .debs of java?
[12:26] <ompaul> zaydana, well that should not happen
[12:26] <zaydana> yeah, that figures
[12:26] <dm_> sn9 i should just write it down :P
[12:26] <ompaul> sn9 no w32deb = w32codecs
[12:26] <augustin> mahangu, thanks, i have read the faq, i was expecting something special for Sony, and THAT i could not find in the wiki. of course, maybe i have not looked properly, in which case any direction is aprpeciated
[12:26] <dm_> sn9 hey can you repeat that apt-get one more time please
[12:27] <sn9> dm_: i told you to "sudo apt-get build-dep emifreq" to install what you would need in order to compile
[12:27] <Marko> I think frozen bubble doesn't know how to share sound
[12:27] <dm_> sn9 thanks again
[12:27] <ompaul> zaydana, pppoeconf
[12:27] <leagris> Marko, if you want to get ride of dual boot for games, you should have a try with wine or cedega (commercial)
[12:27] <sn9> SamStar: 1.5
[12:27] <ompaul> zaydana, that is presuming broadband and ethernet
[12:27] <zaydana> well, ethernet is right
[12:27] <dm_> sn9 says unable to find :(
[12:27] <SamStar> is there an direct link, couze torrent insnt working :(
[12:27] <leagris> I played World Of Warcraft with cedega every evening theses last months
[12:27] <zaydana> the modem/router is running NAT tho
[12:27] <zaydana> so theoretically all i need to do is set the gatway and the nameserver
[12:27] <ompaul> zaydana, so use that little program and tell it to pull a dhcp address
[12:28] <Marko> unfortunately Battlefield 2 isn't well supported under wine/cedega
[12:28] <phiqtion> sn9: about the X server... "No devices detected"
[12:28] <sn9> ompaul: w32deb has the .debs for java
[12:28] <zaydana> dhcp is off
[12:28] <ompaul> sn9, I learnt something
[12:28] <zaydana> i could enable it i guess
[12:28] <ompaul> zaydana, might just have something to do with it
[12:28] <sn9> dm_: find what?
[12:28] <sn9> phiqtion: the EE lines?
[12:29] <zaydana> indeed it would - but i've never heard of a network system which _required_ DHCP before
[12:29] <Marko> Is there any way to force frozen bubble to use alsa?
[12:29] <dm_> sn9 nm , ill just work on it , ty for your time :) you are always so helpful
[12:29] <zaydana> wait, its actually on
[12:29] <ompaul> !w32deb
[12:29] <ubotu> w32deb is, like, download a ready to use w32codecs deb at http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (hoary) or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (breezy)
[12:29] <zaydana> i never disabled it on this router
[12:29] <ompaul> !java
[12:29] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[12:29] <phiqtion> sn9: EE lines: No devices detected, fatal server error: no screens found.
[12:29] <SamStar> !tell samstar about w32codecs
[12:30] <zaydana> ompaul, i've got that ethereal program now
[12:30] <spear> hi !
[12:30] <sn9> phiqtion: which video card is vmware set to emulate?
[12:30] <zax> how do i mount my externall maxtor drive it is in fat32?
[12:31] <phiqtion> sn9: i am running Ubuntu inside VmWare inside windows xp. my xserver was set-up 1280x798. i guess vmware set up 480.
[12:31] <spear> zax mount -t vfat
[12:31] <odd-> I recently got hoary, but gcc isn't included in the packages, do i need to download gcc and the libs again aswell?
[12:31] <odd-> I should really go with slack.
[12:31] <zax> spear: i did not do anything
[12:31] <koxel> Hi Everyone :)
[12:31] <koxel> excuse me..
[12:31] <sn9> phiqtion: yeah but which virtual card?
[12:31] <spear> it's an usb disk ?
[12:31] <Profeta> hey guyz, how to start gdesklets on the beginning of gnome ?
[12:31] <Marko> Samstar w32codecs are the closed source codecs like the ones used by microsoft, realplayer, and apple
[12:31] <spear> hi koxel
[12:31] <koxel> i have problem ...;;;
[12:32] <bigfoot1> guys, if you don't have the notification applet open, how can you use programs like skype or gaim? Is it possible?
[12:32] <koxel> i typed 'apt-get update' but GPGerrors.
[12:32] <SamStar> i know already, but there is an direct link to the jr2e
[12:32] <aftertaf> odd, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:32] <koxel> reason is "Unknown error executing gpgv"
[12:32] <sn9> Profeta: session prefs
[12:32] <phiqtion> sn9. i guess generic. how do i find that?
[12:32] <koxel> How do i?
[12:32] <spear> zax ... it is an usb disk ?
[12:32] <aftertaf> odd-:   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:32] <zax> well its connected by usb
[12:32] <SamStar> when i have downloaded the jr2e for java, how do i install it?
[12:32] <odd-> Thanks.
[12:32] <odd-> Just a sec.
[12:32] <spear> and when you plug it, it's notdetected ?
[12:32] <zax> i think i need to run it as a scsi
[12:32] <zax> nope
[12:33] <spear> weird
[12:33] <zax> just my cd rom
[12:33] <zaydana> ompaul, i tried connecting to a new server and captured the response
[12:33] <sn9> phiqtion: somewhere in vmware's settings i guess
[12:33] <spear> you use hoar/breezy ?
[12:33] <spear> hoary
[12:33] <zax> dunno...
[12:33] <zaydana> for some reason the router is telling me <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:33] <zaydana> but it only does it in 5.10
[12:33] <zax> i got it to work before
[12:33] <SamStar> marko how do i install java when i have downloaded it ?
[12:33] <zax> some guy just gave me a bunch of command line to put in and i did and it mounted like that
[12:33] <spear> and suddenly it doessn't work anymore ?
[12:33] <bigfoot1> there are some programs that only run in the notification applet area. Some I can think of are skype and gaim. What happens if you close down the notification applet? How can you use these kind of programs?
[12:33] <spear> what did you do ?
[12:33] <zax> well i re installed
[12:33] <koxel> if GPG Errors "Unknown error executing gpgv", how do i ?
[12:33] <sn9> SamStar: dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:34] <zax> long story
[12:34] <spear> ah ...
[12:34] <zax> but he made it work thourgh commands
[12:34] <SamStar> and what's the sudo command than ?
[12:34] <kbrooks> !root
[12:34] <spear> do some other usb peripherals work ?
[12:34] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:34] <sn9> SamStar: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:34] <zax> the mouse
[12:34] <zax> lol
[12:34] <spear> ok ... so usb works
[12:34] <phiqtion> sn9: the vmware i have installed doesn't have an option to emulate a video card.
[12:34] <zax> yup
[12:35] <Marko> samstar: I remember just following instructions from the forum on how to install java.  I forgot how to now
[12:35] <kbrooks> marko.
[12:35] <spear> hmmm ... let me check
[12:35] <sn9> phiqtion: is it the ubuntu livecd, or did you install?
[12:35] <kbrooks> !javadeb
[12:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[12:35] <zax> ok
[12:35] <Profeta> hey guyz, someone found this package: gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:35] <Profeta> ?
[12:36] <phiqtion> sn9, i installed in a ext3 partition already. im just booting it up in vmware.
[12:36] <sn9> phiqtion: and vmware settings during installation were the same as now?
[12:36] <SamStar> sn9, now i have installed the .deb, and how do i run java apps ? now?
[12:36] <spear> does the gnome-volume-manager see the disk ?
[12:36] <SamStar> (.jar files)
[12:37] <phiqtion> sn9: what do you mean same as now? i just did the usual configuration.
[12:37] <zax> nope
[12:37] <sn9> SamStar: java -jar jarfile.jar, or use the wrapper script
[12:38] <sn9> phiqtion: let's try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:38] <SamStar> sn9: the app isn't running
[12:39] <sn9> SamStar: which app is it?
[12:39] <SamStar> azureus
[12:39] <limplenny> hello
[12:39] <spear> did you try to mount it manually ?
[12:39] <sn9> SamStar: azureus has a wrapper script. just execute it
[12:39] <zax> ya i dunno the freakin command
[12:39] <Sh|fty> just use torrentflux
[12:40] <aftertaf> !tell zax about mount
[12:40] <SamStar> when i am execute the file it opens the archive manager
[12:41] <kbrooks> a jar file is just a zip file
[12:41] <spear> its is formated in ext2, fat or whatelse ?
[12:41] <sn9> SamStar: execute the wrapper script. don't touch azureus's .jar file
[12:41] <SamStar> i only have the .jar file...
[12:41] <spear> the command looks like : mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:42] <sn9> SamStar: where did you get it?
[12:42] <ftwig> i've just changed my hostname in /etc/hostname and rebooted.  Looks like I need to also change it in /etc/hosts but as I changed hostname cant get sudo prov;(
[12:42] <zax> !windowsdrives
[12:42] <ubotu> well, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:42] <zax> fat32
[12:42] <zax> !tell zax about windowsdrives
[12:42] <spear> so it is -t vfat
[12:42] <SamStar> on azureus.sourceforge.net
[12:43] <spear> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt (example)
[12:43] <nadien> hi
[12:43] <spear> depending on where you want it mounted, and what it's name is
[12:43] <sn9> SamStar: you can delete that. go back and download the full pkg, not just the jarfile
[12:43] <nadien> i am prostitute
[12:43] <dazvid> SamStar, what are you trying to do?
[12:43] <SamStar> full pkg...
[12:43] <SamStar> i want to have azureus
[12:43] <nadien> sucks dick
[12:43] <dazvid> Just download the .tar.gz file from the azureus page
[12:43] <dazvid> unextract it
[12:44] <zax> oh crap it mounted
[12:44] <dazvid> and then run the program from the folder that gets extracted :D
[12:44] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:44] <zax> u have to go into mnt though
[12:44] <zax> u cant
[12:44] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:44] <sn9> SamStar: download the full azuresus pkg
[12:44] <zax> i mean it dosent show up in computer
[12:44] <SamStar> there are 4 linux pkg's
[12:44] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:44] <dazvid> Yeh, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:45] <odd-> My net's shitty.
[12:45] <SamStar> latest
[12:45] <spear> you can't go in /mnt ?
[12:45] <kbrooks> nadien: No
[12:45] <SamStar> breezy ?
[12:45] <zax> no u have to
[12:45] <dazvid> i meant like, amd64 one .. etc
[12:45] <koxel> Who know reason of GPG errors "Unknown error executing gpgv" ?
[12:45] <SamStar> nope486
[12:45] <dazvid> ok
[12:45] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:45] <dazvid> just get the Linux GTK one
[12:45] <spear> you have to open a terminal window zax
[12:45] <nadien> rm -rf/
[12:45] <dazvid> its a .tar.bz2 file
[12:45] <sn9> SamStar: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2?download
[12:45] <moshe> good morning
[12:46] <spear> hi moshe
[12:46] <ftwig> i've just changed my hostname in /etc/hostname and rebooted.  Looks like I need to also change it in /etc/hosts but as I changed hostname cant get sudo prov;(
[12:46] <SamStar> ok already have it, and than just execute it ?
[12:46] <dazvid> unzip it first
[12:46] <kbrooks> nadien: Do not flood the chan with commands like those -- dangerous commands like 'rm -rf /'.
[12:46] <dazvid> bunzip <filename>
[12:46] <dazvid> maybe bunzip2
[12:46] <dazvid> just hit tab to complete the name :)
[12:46] <spear> does someone know if Usplash has the same requisites as bootsplash or is it something totally different in needs and parameters (ie the kernel parameters)
[12:46] <sn9> SamStar: extract the tarfile with tar xjf filename.tar.bz2
[12:47] <nadien> ssh
[12:47] <dazvid> sn9, dont you have to use bunzip for .bz2 files ?
[12:47] <kbrooks> nadien: why are you doing so
[12:47] <Profeta> k3b is for kde, and for gnome ?
[12:47] <aftertaf> !ops
[12:47] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[12:47] <sn9> dazvid: no
[12:47] <moshe> I edited xorg.conf so that my highest resolution would be 1152x864 but kde and gnome and the rest behave like it's 1280x1024 and the screen isn't big enough -- bringing the mouse to the edge of the screen causes the entire screen to scroll!
[12:47] <SamStar> ok and than i have alot of new files ;)
[12:47] <odd-> I hate it when my net's shitty.
[12:47] <SamStar> and which one do i ineed?
[12:47] <Seveas> aftertaf, ?
[12:47] <dazvid> just run azureus by typing azureus :)
[12:47] <sn9> SamStar: the one named "azureus"
[12:48] <SamStar> super it's working thx :)
[12:48] <spear> so, no idea if usplash=bootsplash with ameliorations or something totally different ?
[12:48] <kbrooks> Seveas: someone was "flooding" dangerous commands like 'rm -rf /'
[12:48] <Seveas> ah
[12:48] <aftertaf> Seveas:  did you get PM?
[12:48] <kbrooks> Seveas: technically it wasnt a flood
[12:48] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  nope, but it is stupid and pointless ...
[12:49] <odd-> Why do alot of people hate ubuntu?
[12:49] <kbrooks> Seveas: +r the channel please
[12:49] <odd-> I mean, it's not half bad.
[12:49] <Seveas> I've made a few aliases in my chatclient
[12:49] <Profeta> where I find w32codecs ?
[12:49] <Seveas>  /rm == kick
[12:49] <Seveas>  /rm -rf == ban
[12:49] <moshe> does anyone know how I can get the screen to resize accordingly to my xorg.conf?
[12:49] <odd-> Heh.
[12:49] <dazvid> !tell Profeta about w32codecs
[12:49] <spear> hehe i gve up :)
[12:49] <spear> give
[12:49] <kbrooks> odd-: what do u mean why
[12:49] <aftertaf> odd-:  either elite pointlessness, or personal uselessness.....
[12:49] <aftertaf> lol Seveas :)
[12:49] <spear> i'll post on the ubuntu forum
[12:50] <sn9> !tell Profeta about javadeb
[12:50] <aftertaf> spear:  you are here :)
[12:50] <kbrooks> aftertaf: none of those
[12:50] <odd-> Hah!
[12:50] <kbrooks> *explains*
[12:50] <odd-> (My net sucks, I'm lagging somewhat.
[12:50] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  im not feelinginspired today...
[12:50] <spear> i'm here yes :)
[12:50] <kbrooks> aftertaf: sometimes people dont like ubuntu because they were once newbies and grown out of ubuntu too fast
[12:50] <spear> the channel's too busy i guess :)
[12:50] <aftertaf> lol spear i.e. the ubuntu helo channel.
[12:51] <aftertaf> spear:  ask away
[12:51] <aftertaf> usplash vs bootsplash ?
[12:51] <aftertaf> kbrooks:  yeah but you can get around the newb friendly stuff and access the power of debian, no?
[12:51] <odd-> who uses lynx?
[12:51] <spear> i have a home made kernel from kernel.org ... are the kernel prerequisites for usplash same as for bootsplash or different ?
[12:52] <Marko> how do I list the channels on an irc server?
[12:52] <kbrooks> lol
[12:52] <kbrooks> brb
[12:52] <aftertaf> no idea...
[12:52] <kbrooks> i'll test this out
[12:52] <spear> what i don't know is if the official ubuntu kernel with usplash working is patched in a special way or whatelse
[12:52] <shinu> can i mount an ext3 partition with option uid=1000? or does it not matter?
[12:52] <aftertaf> spear:  patched? or an option in the .config?   maybe
[12:52] <kbrooks> brb
[12:52] <stimpie> Is it possible to use fb on the console?
[12:53] <sn9> phiqtion: did that help?
[12:53] <aftertaf> spear:  do you need to have a custom kernel?
[12:53] <spear> it's lighter
[12:53] <spear> i don't really need a light kernel, but i guess i like to tune the mechanics of linux :)
[12:53] <aftertaf> spear:  hmm, but loads of stuff is in modules, and so not inserted unless needed... iirc
[12:53] <odd-> Hey, another n00bish question, how do I decompress files that're in .deb extensions?
[12:54] <aftertaf> spear:  hehe, that i understand :)
[12:54] <aftertaf> odd-:  you dont, you dpkg them
[12:54] <spear> dpkg -i nameofpackage
[12:54] <aftertaf> odd-:  .deb files are debian/ubuntu packages, you get them with sudo apt-get install  and tey are installed automagically
[12:55] <spear> i'll download an official kernel and check it's conf file
[12:55] <ECMN> hello guys im back again
[12:55] <brammator> where i can read more about differences between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[12:55] <spear> and leave a post on the forum to clarify
[12:55] <spear> hi ECMN
[12:55] <aftertaf> spear:  i did that to begin wth, but i'm more than happy using the latest kernels, and since they update wth apt, you can be lazy as you wanna be :)
[12:55] <odd-> Oh, right..
[12:55] <kbrooks> uh
[12:55] <onkarshinde> Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu in Bochs simulator?
[12:55] <kbrooks> questions
[12:55] <aftertaf> spear:  check in your /boot partition, you might have one (unless no kernel pkg since breezy....)
[12:55] <odd-> Never really used a debian distro before .. new experience.
[12:55] <odd-> Always good to ask questions.
[12:55] <kbrooks> i installed usplash
[12:55] <ECMN> i just reinstalled ubuntu and i only installed the base system
[12:56] <sn9> onkarshinde: having trouble?
[12:56] <spear> you'd better use Qemu onkarshinde
[12:56] <aftertaf> odd-:  welcome to ubuntu :)
[12:56] <kbrooks> but it doesnt load?
[12:56] <kbrooks> on bootup
[12:56] <ECMN> now, how can i install the x window? and gnome?
[12:56] <onkarshinde> sn9: I get kernel panic at start itself. So not able to install Ubuntu inside bochs.
[12:56] <odd-> Thanks man.
[12:56] <spear> brb, my eyes suffer ... things go too fast here :)
[12:56] <aftertaf> ;)
[12:56] <onkarshinde> spear: I am on windows and qemu runs damn slow
[12:56] <odd-> (I think you'll like what I've done with the desktop :p)
[12:56] <kbrooks> odd-: server install? ;)
[12:56] <kbrooks> ah
[12:56] <kbrooks> :)
[12:56] <spear> use kqemu !
[12:56] <sn9> ECMN: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[12:57] <Skid> hmmm, whats up with the gui vlc player in breezy
[12:57] <Skid> menu's have dissapeared, and button text too
[12:57] <onkarshinde> spear: I said I am on windows
[12:57] <spear> oh
[12:57] <kbrooks> onkarshinde:
[12:57] <kbrooks> "kqemu"
[12:57] <aftertaf> ECMN:  or for the whole lot, ie gnome..... sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <kbrooks> not "qemu"
[12:57] <sn9> onkarshinde: are you sure bochs is configured correctly?
[12:58] <spear> so why do you ask here onkarshinde ??? we're all using linux apps
[12:58] <ECMN> oic, tnx to you oth sn9 and aftertaf
[12:58] <aftertaf> wb CaiN_SA :)
[12:58] <aftertaf> ;) ECMN
[12:58] <ECMN> i decided to installed only the base so that i can save some space
[12:58] <onkarshinde> sn9: Yes. I think so. Any specific thing related to irq?
[12:58] <ECMN> cause im having my system dual boot
[12:58] <ECMN> :)
[12:59] <onkarshinde> spear: Because I want to try out Breezy till I get my RAM upgraded from 128 to 510.
[12:59] <sn9> onkarshinde: what exactly is the panic msg?
[12:59] <onkarshinde> sn9: Just two minutes and I will let you know.
[12:59] <ECMN> any amp user here, that using ubuntu?
[01:00] <Profeta> ubuntu is a great distro, dont know how they build it so fast
[01:00] <Profeta> well its debian based :)
[01:00] <dazvid> The dev's are not of this planet.. keep it on the low down..
[01:00] <ECMN> ubuntu is my first linux dist.
[01:00] <Profeta> dazvid, hehehe :)
[01:00] <odd-> Dapper Drake is somewhat .. irksome, the name I mean.
[01:01] <ECMN> i installed it 3 weeks ago that that 3 weeks was my first exposure in linux, im having lot of fun with it
[01:01] <sn9> odd-: no worse than hoary hedgehog
[01:01] <aftertaf> ECMN:  amp?
[01:01] <ECMN> that only probs i have is that its quite slow in my syste,
[01:01] <dazvid> Breezy is such a cool name
[01:01] <dazvid> very relaxed
[01:01] <ECMN> apache, mysql, php aftertaf
[01:01] <odd-> Next it'll be scurry squirrel
[01:01] <aftertaf> ECMN:  what is your processor type,  k7 or intel?
[01:02] <Profeta> I installed last debian here and got problems ( I am on a note), tryed ubuntu, running perfect
[01:02] <onkarshinde> sn9: Here is the error:   <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[01:02] <sn9> onkarshinde: change the ips line in bochs config
[01:02] <ECMN> im shy to share my system spec. :) but it's intel base, it out outdated system.
[01:02] <odd-> I don't wnt to try out breezyt.
[01:02] <odd-> Hoary's just fine
[01:02] <odd-> breezy*
[01:03] <aftertaf> ECMN:  check see if you have the linux-686 package. If you don't then sudo apt-get install  linux-686
[01:03] <ECMN> a system only good for programming, so to speak :)
[01:03] <kbrooks> ECMN: i'm shy. j/k ;)
[01:03] <onkarshinde> sn9: can we take this offline?
[01:03] <kbrooks> pentinum 3
[01:03] <ECMN> hehe kbrooks
[01:03] <sn9> onkarshinde: what, you mean on the phone?
[01:03] <onkarshinde> sn9: I mean off the channel.
[01:04] <aftertaf> ECMN:  no shyness to have. i'm on a p3 500
[01:04] <ECMN> i only have a 200mhz system with 64mb and 2.1 hdd, that how outdated my system are
[01:04] <kbrooks> ECMN: p3 is awfully old ;)
[01:05] <ECMN> the reason why i decided to have dual but cause, i can't compile the source properly in ubuntu
[01:05] <ECMN> my is pentium 200 hehehe
[01:05] <odd-> Totern movie player doesn't work aswell, and the link to mplayer is dead.
[01:05] <sn9> odd-: what link to mplayer?
[01:06] <odd-> The mplayerhq or whatever one.
[01:06] <spear> bochs is still maintained ?
[01:06] <odd-> One sec.
[01:06] <odd-> I prefer bochs to vmware.
[01:06] <ECMN> wait guys i just take a break and list all the help i got from you :)
[01:06] <odd-> Not sure though.
[01:06] <kbrooks> qemu > bochs
[01:06] <kbrooks> :)
[01:06] <sn9> spear: very much so
[01:07] <odd-> (Fsck my net is slow)
[01:07] <odd-> l.
[01:07] <odd-> www.mplayerhq.hu
[01:07] <spear> ok, have a good day ;)
[01:07] <spear> bye !
[01:07] <sn9> odd-: that site is down again? sheesh
[01:07] <ECMN> im back
[01:07] <ECMN> :)
[01:08] <ECMN> thx spear for the greeting :), luv yah
[01:08] <odd-> Think its up now.
[01:09] <odd-> I was wondering...
[01:09] <sn9> kbrooks: qemu and bochs serve different purposes
[01:09] <odd-> I have shitty net, if I give someone a shell account, they have like 10mbit down, could they download stuff at which I'll get them faster?
[01:09] <odd-> Or is that just a waste of time and bw
[01:10] <Marko> k.  I'm off to bed.  Goodnight
[01:10] <kbrooks> sn9: what does bochs serve
[01:11] <sn9> kbrooks: bochs lets you automate examining machine state during emulation
[01:11] <sigwada> hello guys,
[01:11] <kbrooks> sn9: english?
[01:11] <ECMN> aftertaf what linux-686 do to my system if i installed it?
[01:12] <kbrooks> i'm not sure i understand you, sn9
[01:12] <sn9> kbrooks: sorry, but there's not much plain english stuff that can be said about bochs
[01:12] <sigwada> its my 3 days working with my torrent files and until now i cant open it.
[01:12] <ECMN> aftertaf what linux-686 do to my system if i installe it?
[01:13] <odd-> I'm tired of slow net.. solutions, solutions.
[01:13] <YeTr2> Where would I set default applications to open files for?
[01:13] <sigwada> i domnt have any bittorrent client and i want to obtain one, but i dont know what to do coz im a newbie here in ubuntu.
[01:13] <aftertaf> ECMN:  install a custom kernel optimised for your Pentium 2/3 processor
[01:13] <kbrooks> sigwada: you already have one
[01:13] <stimpie> sigwada, azureus, bittornado or gnome-btdownload
[01:14] <ECMN> oic
[01:14] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me how to identify what my dns address(es) are?
[01:14] <kbrooks> apt-get install --reinstall gnome-btdownload
[01:14] <sn9> sigwada: the best bittorrent client is azureus, but it needs java. you can get java here: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:14] <aftertaf> ECMN:  but you have a Pentium MMX 200, right?
[01:14] <kbrooks> ndlovu: check /etc/resolv.conf
[01:14] <ECMN> sorry to ask, i'm just new to linux, got curious about it :)
[01:14] <ktogias> ndlovu, look in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:15] <ndlovu> thanks
[01:15] <rohal> is trying ubuntu is equivalent to trying debian....or there is anything special in debian which is not there in ubuntu?
[01:15] <ECMN> i think it not mmx, it just 200, no mmx attach to it when it boo up the bios
[01:15] <aftertaf> ECMN:  dont be sorry, asking means interested, and learning ;)
[01:15] <amparo_pzzi> smartdraw is available for linux???
[01:15] <ECMN> tnx :)
[01:15] <aftertaf> ECMN:  but dont get that package, its not for your processor...
[01:15] <aftertaf> P2 and above only :/
[01:15] <kbrooks> rohal: its not equalivent. and reverse the anything special in ... question
[01:15] <ECMN> ok thnx for the help and knowledge
[01:16] <leagris> amparo_pzzi, what is smartdrow. what kind of software ?
[01:16] <odd-> I have a P4 if that counts ;P
[01:16] <sigwada> where can i get azureus?
[01:16] <sn9> ECMN: you need a 586 pkg
[01:16] <ECMN> in general, i love to use the os :)
[01:16] <kbrooks> rohal: yes there is a lot of special stuff in ubuntu not in debian
[01:16] <odd-> apt-get install azureus
[01:16] <ECMN> what's on the package sn9?
[01:17] <amparo_pzzi> create charts and diagrams
[01:17] <aftertaf> odd-:  it does count... a lot of times a second ;)
[01:17] <sn9> odd-: P4s use 686-smp kernels
[01:17] <rohal> kbrooks: i wanted to know is there anything special in debian which is not in ubuntu.....u took it other way?
[01:17] <kbrooks> rohal: i had to ;)
[01:17] <aftertaf> sn9:  really? all of them?
[01:17] <cafuego_> sn9: Only HT ones. Except HT is disabled in the SMP kernels, so it's pointless.
[01:17] <aftertaf> lol
[01:17] <aftertaf> ok thx cafuego . how to tell if ht is on the proc?
[01:18] <cafuego_> aftertaf: cat /proc/cpuinfo. See 'ht' in the flags listing.
[01:18] <odd-> (I know :)
[01:18] <aftertaf> ok thx cafuego  :)
[01:18] <sn9> ECMN: linux-image-586 would be your kernel
[01:18] <odd-> I have a P4 3.01Ghz, 80GIg hd, 752MB ram.
[01:18] <ECMN> oic
[01:18] <xuniluser> Help: After doing the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and after extracting the templates and preconfiguring packages, 'dpkg' issued an error: "parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available near line 6331 package totem" Please help
[01:19] <dave> is there anyway to make gtk apps in kde look normal/like they do in gnome ??
[01:19] <mgedmin> postfix breakage?  apt-get dist-upgrade -t breezy chanded /etc/postfix/master.cf, and postfix now doesn't start (bad hostname or network address: ::1:smtp)
[01:19] <sn9> sigwada: you must install java before you get azureus
[01:19] <sigwada> ok
[01:19] <ECMN> ill try it when i get home
[01:19] <leagris> amparo_pzzi, sketch (technickal drawing), sodipodi (vector artwork), oodra (open office draw), oocalc (spreadsheet and charts)...
[01:19] <cafuego_> dave: make sure gnome-settings-daemon starts when you're in KDE.
[01:19] <xuniluser> filed name '0' must be followed by a colon
[01:19] <aftertaf> ht flag :)
[01:19] <odd-> I wish I had a 10mbit connection.
[01:19] <odd-> I'd be swimming.
[01:20] <Profeta> ./Real10.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:20] <Profeta> someone got that ?
[01:20] <kbrooks> odd-: lol
[01:20] <cafuego_> aftertaf: Ok, then going to the SMP kernel means HT won't work either ;-)
[01:20] <Dreamglider> is there a fix for the mounting of floppy drive in ubuntu ?
[01:20] <odd-> Profeta, you don't have the libs.
[01:20] <ompaul> Profeta, that is not the one that works afic
[01:20] <odd-> (dur)
[01:20] <starscalling> 4:20!!
[01:20] <ompaul> Profeta, afik even
[01:21] <cafuego_> 'helix-player' is packaged.
[01:21] <ECMN> sng how to set-up the linux-image-586? sudo apt-get install linux-image-586? is tthis right?
[01:21] <cole> olaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
[01:21] <sn9> ECMN: yes, if it were there
[01:21] <kbrooks> !info helix-player
[01:21] <ubotu> helix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB
[01:21] <aftertaf> ECMN:  yes, nice one.... but 586 kernel dont exist :/
[01:22] <sn9> starscalling: 4:22
[01:22] <ompaul> Profeta, you want  RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:22] <Profeta> ok
[01:22] <ompaul> Profeta,  ec9f584f12c05f567d0a2cccb82acd98 is the md5sum of that package
[01:23] <aftertaf> ompaul:  i think you got a c in the wrong place there ;)
[01:23] <onkarshinde> !vlc
[01:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[01:23] <odd-> Someone ssh to my box and download packages for me!! :(
[01:23] <Profeta> ompaul, its that package
[01:23] <sn9> odd-: i could, but i don't know what you want to install
[01:23] <Profeta> how I generate the md5 ?
[01:24] <ECMN> what's on the cd 686? i dont have update on my ubuntu cause im not connected to the net. all my files are from the cd
[01:24] <Profeta> humm
[01:24] <Profeta> dont match
[01:24] <sn9> ECMN: 386 is default, and if there is no 586, it's the one you can stay with
[01:24] <odd-> Just anything that comes to mind, music players, metacity themes, ebooks, even things that you have and you want to send me :P anything
[01:24] <ompaul> Profeta, the one I got was from the real site and it works
[01:24] <odd-> Anythnig at all.
[01:24] <kbrooks> odd-: well ok
[01:24] <ompaul> Profeta, out of the box with hoary and breezy
[01:25] <apokryphos> odd-: giving someone ssh acccess with sudo powers is a big recipe for disaster
[01:25] <ECMN> oic
[01:25] <odd-> Aye.
[01:25] <ECMN> i guess i have to stick with it
[01:25] <scifi_uk> hi, just about to install ubuntu on sparc, any tips ?
[01:25] <odd-> Shitty, I'm me though.
[01:25] <ECMN> no other choice, poor me :(
[01:25] <xuniluser> Help: After doing the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and after extracting the templates and preconfiguring packages, 'dpkg' issued an error: "parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available near line 6331 package totem" Please help
[01:25] <Profeta> ompaul,  ok :)
[01:26] <apokryphos> odd-: if you like having to possibly reinstall, and have the possibility of losing all your files, then go right ahead.
[01:26] <odd-> ...
[01:26] <sn9> xuniluser: that's not good. try apt-get update again
[01:26] <odd-> True
[01:26] <kbrooks> :)
[01:27] <Dreamglider> is there a fix for the mounting of floppy drive in nautilus ?
[01:27] <bigfoot1> can anyone tell me of some good quality IAX/ASterisk softphones for ubuntu/gnome, please, please, please?
[01:27] <xuniluser> sn9: does that have something to do with my cdrom? i'm trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy
[01:27] <aftertaf> !tell Dreamglider about kde
[01:28] <sn9> xuniluser: no, it's file corruption. apt-get update might fix it
[01:28] <brownie17> can someone tell me something about "CUPS"? does it mean i don't need drivers for my printer?
[01:29] <sn9> brownie17: depends on the printer. most are supported out-of-the-box
[01:29] <bigfoot1> anybody here use X-Lite?
[01:29] <brownie17> sn9, well there aren't drivers for my printer, so if i install cups then my printer will just work?
[01:29] <bigfoot1> i hear that X-lite is a good IAX/Asterisk softphone. Can anyone confirm?
[01:29] <_angel> hi..
[01:30] <sn9> brownie17: cups is already installed by default
[01:30] <_angel> angel@mail:~$ sudo -i
[01:30] <_angel> Password:
[01:30] <_angel> Sorry, try again.
[01:30] <_angel> Password:
[01:30] <_angel> how can I open root ac.
[01:30] <_angel> it asks root pass
[01:31] <_angel> bur I do not set a pass
[01:31] <vinboy> i feel there are some nice improvement in Breezy :D
[01:31] <kbrooks> lol
[01:31] <sn9> _angel: use your user password
[01:31] <kbrooks> !root
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:31] <brownie17> sn9, so it does not replace drivers, but allows printing to be done at all?
[01:31] <onkarshinde> _angel: Your your password
[01:31] <intelikey> _angel: sudo bash
[01:31] <onkarshinde> vinboy: Like what?
[01:31] <sn9> brownie17: correct
[01:31] <odd-> Alright, once gcc is done, I just decompress it and install?
[01:31] <vinboy> onkarshinde, i can play compressed media over network nicely now..
[01:32] <vinboy> i had problem playing those video file
[01:32] <vinboy> also it added Add Application thing
[01:32] <vinboy> nice nice nice
[01:32] <odd-> I am. :( this happens when I have really shitty net.
[01:32] <brownie17> she's got the looks that kill!
[01:33] <odd-> I'll come back when my net's good and be even.
[01:33] <_angel> ok I passwd the root
[01:33] <_angel> but kdesu daoesnt get my pass
[01:34] <Riddell> _angel: kdesu uses the user password
[01:34] <intelikey> mmmm kdesu is a gui sudo i believe   it uses your passwd not root's
[01:34] <kbrooks> _angel: Read this.
[01:34] <kbrooks> !root
[01:34] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:34] <intelikey> errr no scratch that....
[01:34] <dead> yea.. it is.. everything runs under sudo
[01:35] <intelikey> root is not disabled.......    duh
[01:35] <kbrooks> intelikey: um
[01:35] <kbrooks> "everything runs under sudo"
[01:35] <Antioch> whats the name of the tool (built into x, I believe) that lets you change the refresh and sync rates... erm... its a small gui you can run from the terminal......
[01:35] <kbrooks> read: everything
[01:36] <kbrooks> Antioch: xrandr i guess?
[01:36] <intelikey> would some one rewrite that please.   root is not disabled.    there is no passwd set for the root account by default.   that does not disable root.
[01:36] <dead> i stand corrected..
[01:37] <_angel> yes I ve read it but I wantto open my root account like I used to in suse. dont tell me it is stupid :D
[01:37] <Antioch> mm no thats not it
[01:37] <ompaul> intelikey, go for it, access for all :-)
[01:37] <_angel> odd-:  yes I am. but not regged
[01:38] <intelikey> _angel: to set a root passwd "sudo passwd "
[01:38] <kbrooks> _anjel.
[01:38] <odd-> Alrighty ..
[01:38] <kbrooks> STOP WORRYING ABOUT ROOT ACCESS
[01:38] <_angel> intelikey: I did set a pass
[01:38] <intelikey> then su -
[01:38] <Antioch> I dont know the right refresh rates and such for my xorg.conf and the displa is shifted off of the screen slightly
[01:39] <Belutz> why do you want to enable root account?
[01:39] <sn9> Antioch: look in your monitor's manual
[01:39] <dead> do you have your monitor docs?
[01:39] <sigwada> why is it when i install sun-j2re1.4 ive encountered errors, i think it is not install, what will i do?
[01:39] <Seveas> _angel, it's stupid..
[01:39] <Seveas> :)
[01:39] <_angel> :D
[01:39] <intelikey> Belutz: because we hate sudo  .
[01:39] <Seveas> sigwada, paste the errors on the pastebin
[01:39] <sn9> sigwada: what errors?
[01:39] <Belutz> intelikey, why do you hate it?
[01:40] <sigwada> where will i paste the errors?
[01:40] <intelikey> why do you like it ?
[01:40] <sigwada> here?
[01:40] <Seveas> sudo is the best invention since sliced bread ;)
[01:40] <dead> you can probably just change your monitor... as in move it over.. and you should be able to find your refresh rate inn your monitor's menus
[01:40] <Belutz> intelikey, you could go to root by using sudo su
[01:40] <Seveas> sigwada, NO
[01:40] <sn9> sigwada: no
[01:40] <sigwada> where?
[01:40] <Seveas> on the pastebin -> $paste
[01:40] <Seveas> on the pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:40] <cafuego_> Seveas: How about sliced cheese?
[01:40] <_angel> ok .I wantto set up apt-get reps for some special packs. like xvid .. (sorry I am very very new to ubuntu)
[01:40] <Antioch> no I dont have the docs... it was just a mintory lying around the lab
[01:40] <odd-> wget is a handy tool.
[01:40] <Antioch> very frustrated.. i cant tell if its because I have a sis integrated graphics card, or the LCD's fault
[01:40] <sn9> Antioch: what make/model?
[01:41] <odd-> Who's used zinc?
[01:41] <sn9> Antioch: oh, it's a flat panel?
[01:41] <Antioch> sharp and no model number on it... I'll check more tomorrow... is there a website that has useful information?
[01:41] <cafuego_> against sunburn?
[01:41] <dead> ok.. see about the buttons on the monitor.. you should be able to help yourself through the monitors menus
[01:41] <Antioch> yea, its LCD
[01:41] <egoleo> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[01:41] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:41] <intelikey> Belutz: most of us don't want a very long user passwd (thus less secure)  but we also don't want a three letter access to root.   thus sudo is a security breach.
[01:41] <egoleo> can someone help to get the keys
[01:41] <sn9> Antioch: for flat panels, usually 60Hz works
[01:41] <Antioch> dead are you talking about shifting the image?
[01:41] <cafuego_> egoleo: etch is debian. ubuntu is not. break shit at your own peril.
[01:42] <Seveas> egoleo, gpg --recv-keys  07DC563D1F41B907 && gpg --export --armor  07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -
[01:42] <onkarshinde> egoleo: You need to export the gpg key. Don't know how. Easy to do from Synaptic
[01:42] <bigfoot1> i just downloaded x-lite. It came in tar.gz, but then I untarred it. Inside were only 2 files: readme and the executable itself. Where do you recommend i move this executable? I don't want to clutter my home directory? Where is the usual place Linux pros put stuff like this?
[01:42] <sigwada> ive already paste it in pastebin. whats next?
[01:42] <dead> yes i am Antioch
[01:42] <pchan> Any "powered by ubuntu" images available? :)
[01:42] <Seveas> sigwada, giving us the url to the post ;)
[01:42] <egoleo> ok
[01:42] <Seveas> pchan, yes, on the wiki
[01:42] <sn9> bigfoot1: /usr/local/bin
[01:43] <Antioch> dead, already tried that, thats not the fix.. its got to do with wrong frequency... thanks though
[01:43] <Belutz> intelikey, i see, well you have your reason
[01:43] <Antioch> sn9 is the shifting due to a problem with the frequency or perhaps I dont have the proper drivers installed?
[01:43] <sn9> Antioch: could be either
[01:43] <pchan> Seveas: Where? The search found none.
[01:43] <sigwada> ok tnx
[01:43] <onkarshinde> Any idea when HP custom version of breezy will be out?
[01:44] <dead> i would check the frequency first
[01:44] <Seveas> pchan, can't remember where ;)
[01:44] <bigfoot1> sn9, that's where linux geeks/pros put stuff like this? or just you?
[01:44] <dead> it really doesnt sound like a driver problem
[01:44] <reiki> does Gimp do batch resizing by default?
[01:44] <pchan> Seveas: I knew it! It was a trick! :P
[01:44] <sn9> bigfoot1: it's the standard for stuff you compile yourself
[01:45] <intelikey> Belutz: when i installed ub i entered blank info for user account and it dropped back to root passwd as it should.   but there should be a referance to that option in the default install.  not everyone will think of that without a pointer.
[01:45] <dao> is it sensible to make an additional (sudo)user with admin-rights and work with a regular user without any of those admin-rights?
[01:45] <bigfoot1> sn9, i didn't compile this executable though. The website/company that made it just put this executable in a tar.gz. Or, maybe I'm not understanding you when you say "compile". Did I just compile this ?
[01:45] <shukhrat> hello people it me again
[01:45] <sigwada> i hope somone can help me regarding with my problem, tnx alot guys.
[01:46] <bigfoot1> shukhrat: hello person.
[01:46] <bigfoot1> sn9: do i have to remember that i put it there?
[01:46] <shukhrat> Russian any Russian speakers here
[01:46] <odd-> Oh no!
[01:46] <shukhrat> ?
[01:46] <odd-> it's you?!
[01:46] <sn9> bigfoot1: no, but for your purposes it will work
[01:46] <intelikey> dao only if you want the added sudoer to only be able to run specific commands.
[01:46] <Seveas> sigwada, you installed a breezy package on a hoary system
[01:46] <Seveas> that will NEVER work..
[01:47] <shukhrat> Hello
[01:47] <brownie17> does anyone know a way to get my printer to work when it doesn't have linux drivers?
[01:47] <odd-> helloo
[01:47] <bigfoot1> sn9:  in that folder there's only 2 files: rar, unrar! wow. Oh, I can't paste into that folder. How can i get sudo/root access to that folder in nautilus?
[01:47] <GreenFireD> witch rezolusion are you using?
[01:47] <kbrooks> bigfoot1:
[01:47] <kbrooks> !info unrar-free
[01:47] <sn9> bigfoot1: sudo nautilus
[01:47] <ubotu> unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[01:47] <kbrooks> !info rar
[01:47] <sigwada> what will i do to install breezy package?
[01:47] <brownie17> bigfoot1, you would have to log in as root
[01:47] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[01:47] <ompaul> shukhrat, we don't know, ask your question as best you can and we will try to help
[01:47] <bigfoot1> kbrooks: why should i do info on that?
[01:48] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: use those packages
[01:48] <bigfoot1> kbrooks: I'm just surprised that i only have two things in my usr/local/bin.
[01:48] <ompaul> shukhrat, is that breezy the whole operating system or a single package on breezy?
[01:48] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: unrar-nonfree not unrar-free
[01:48] <GreenFireD> witch rezolusion are you using? I can't find comfortalble rezolusion...
[01:48] <bigfoot1> sn9. thanks!
[01:48] <dave> what do you need to install to make skype look like it does on the screenshots?
[01:48] <Seveas> skype
[01:48] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:48] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:48] <Seveas> egoleo, retry
[01:49] <Seveas> that happens sometimes during archive updates
[01:49] <dave> it looks really bad compared to the screenshots
[01:49] <dao> intelikey, I was just wondering if there might be any security flaws in using an account which has sudo-admin-rights for regular work
[01:49] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: Do not install nonubuntu things
[01:49] <ompaul> dave, if it is up and running then maybe adding some fonts might help
[01:49] <shukhrat> my screen resolution very low how can i increase ?
[01:50] <pitti> dao: there are not more or less problems than using su from a normal account
[01:50] <pitti> dao: in principle, both sudo and su allow root privilege escalation by other programs
[01:50] <leonhunt> xorg uses a lot of cpu power, like descriped in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18197.html
[01:50] <leonhunt> Unfortunately, despite its length, the thread doesn't include a workable solution.
[01:50] <leonhunt> Does anyone here have any info on this matter?
[01:50] <intelikey> yes dao if it is full root access there is.  the more access points there are to root (the more passwords that will gain root access) the easier the hack
[01:51] <shukhrat> PEOPLE !!! my screen resolution very low how can i increase ?
[01:51] <runge> try <ctrl><alt>+
[01:51] <bigfoot1> sn9: i put the the executable in usr/local/bin. if i want to run it, do i have to do something with paths?
[01:51] <sn9> bigfoot1: no
[01:52] <ompaul> shukhrat, system preferences screen resolution
[01:52] <kbrooks> bigfoot1: not in thoery
[01:52] <kbrooks> sh: echo $PATH: command not found
[01:52] <bigfoot1> so i can go to terminal and just type "programname" from any folder?
[01:53] <kbrooks> /home/kbrooks/.local/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[01:53] <dao> oke, makes things clear, thanks pitti and intelikey
[01:53] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes
[01:53] <kbrooks> That is $PATH on my system
[01:53] <pitti> dao: still, it's reasonably safe to use su and sudo on a desktop box
[01:53] <bigfoot1> sn9, and this is because i put it in usr/local bin?
[01:53] <sn9> bigfoot1: yes
[01:53] <intelikey> pitti if i can crack your user passwd and it has full sudo rights then i have cracked your full system.   on the other hand if i crack your user and then have to crack root to use su then it is more secure.
[01:54] <kbrooks> intelikey: um
[01:54] <pitti> intelikey: right
[01:54] <bigfoot1> sn9 thankns
[01:54] <kbrooks> dont compare root to sudo
[01:54] <intelikey> kbrooks: ?
[01:54] <pitti> intelikey: but any program running as the user can get root privs if the user uses su or sudo
[01:54] <bigfoot1> sn9, how can i add it to my menu? do i use "add applications" or  what?
[01:54] <odd-> They're not the same no.
[01:54] <onkarshinde> Which kernel package should I download for Athlon XP, 396 or 686?
[01:54] <pitti> intelikey: so the practical difference is not bit
[01:54] <odd-> They're two different things.
[01:54] <bigfoot1> how do i add a shortcut to my menu?
[01:55] <sn9> intelikey: but to crack user passwd you also have to crack username, so sudo is more secure
[01:55] <pitti> intelikey: and it doesn not make much of a difference to crack the user or the root password
[01:55] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: if using breezy, run smeg
[01:55] <pitti> sn9: don't rely on that :-)
[01:55] <kbrooks> pitti: correct
[01:55] <odd-> Yawn..
[01:55] <dbug> the access nivel of sudo is the same of root ?
[01:55] <odd-> Been a busy day.
[01:55] <onkarshinde> Which kernel package should I download for Athlon XP, 396 or 686?
[01:55] <kbrooks> dbug: level?
[01:55] <pitti> onkarshinde: -k7
[01:55] <kemik> onfire_nux:  k7
[01:55] <sn9> onkarshinde: k7
[01:55] <kemik> onkarshinde:  *
[01:55] <kbrooks> dbug: sudo is setuid root so yes
[01:55] <dbug> if can make the same things like root
[01:56] <odd-> brb
[01:56] <dbug> but when i use sudo his ask the user pass, not the root pass
[01:57] <Seveas> dbug, that's how sudo works...
[01:57] <pitti> dbug: right, that was the sole purpose of using sudo
[01:57] <Seveas> you can make it ask the root password too...
[01:57] <dbug> how ? any howto to learn that ?
[01:57] <kbrooks> dbug: sudo grants you the access to execute a command or a shell BECAUSE it is setuid root
[01:58] <kbrooks> and so you can in thoery do anything
 intelikey: and it doesn not make much of a difference to crack the user or the root password <---- that is where i would have to differ.   i like a user passwd that is short and easy to remember and type.   however my root passwd is neither. thus there is quite a differance in the two.
[01:58] <pitti> kbrooks: in the default config, that is
[01:58] <kbrooks> it "logs you in" as root
[01:58] <kbrooks> pitti: ?
[01:58] <pitti> kbrooks: you can configure sudo to only allow certain particular things to a user
[01:58] <dao> intelikey, good point there
[01:58] <Fergy> could somebody tell me what the DVD version of ubuntu has extra?(its 2.8GB and livecd+install is only 1.3GB)
[01:58] <kbrooks> pitti: i know
[01:59] <pitti> Fergy: all packages in main
[01:59] <onkarshinde> pitti: sn9: IIRC, hoary installed 686 kernel package on my Athlon XP
[01:59] <geoffTheFish> anybody got flash working for firefox on breezy?
[01:59] <kbrooks> pitti: i was talking about the config
[01:59] <Fergy> pickett os it has more than the install cd?
[01:59] <sn9> onkarshinde: athlon should use k7
[01:59] <pitti> kbrooks: well, Ubuntu's default config that is (not upstream's of course)
[01:59] <onkarshinde> Fergy: You can check the list of packages on same page. I suppose it contains all the official main and restricted packages
[01:59] <disasm> as root doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp i get no such device /dev/dsp I did the same thing on my amd64 laptop, and it worked fine, the one having problems is x86 and both are running breezy
[01:59] <onkarshinde> sn9: Okay. Thanks.
[01:59] <kbrooks> arent setuid root programs inherently dangerous?
[02:00] <shukhrat> ompaul i tryed it's offere me only 640*480 it not good i think problem in my VGA device
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: no, not inherently
[02:00] <shukhrat> ompaul i tryed it's offere me only 640*480 it not good i think problem in my VGA device
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: sometimes a setuid wrapper can even help to improve security
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: but in general they should be avoided, yes
[02:00] <sn9> geoffTheFish: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:00] <Fergy> onkarshinde I tried that but it's a bit long... Is the the install also bigger or is it just so you don't have to download the stuff when you use synaptic?
[02:00] <GURT> my opengl screen savers stoped working :/
[02:00] <pitti> kbrooks: that's why we tried to "deroot" as much as possible in Ubunut
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: when could a wrapper improve security?
[02:01] <Fergy> would it for instance have the 686 kernel?
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: "deroot"?
[02:01] <zyga> Hello
[02:01] <pitti> kbrooks: take dhcp-client for example
[02:01] <intelikey> and all i was trying to say before all this debate is that some people for what ever reason (maybe only force of habbet) don't want to be forced to use sudo.  thus it would be nice if the installer mentioned that they "do actually have the option to set a root passwd durring the install process"
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: like mac os x does?
[02:01] <hamouhzi> hello evrybody
[02:01] <pitti> kbrooks: in upstream and Debian, dhcp3-client runs completely as root
[02:01] <kbrooks> pitti: prompt you for a password?
[02:01] <zyga> can anyone give me a piece of advice about preferred black-and-white, ink printer for ubuntu?
[02:01] <_angel> omg. apt-get is really nice :D
[02:01] <onkarshinde> Fergy: It is that you don't have to download when you you use synaptic. Default install will be same.
[02:01] <kbrooks> as in "permission"?
[02:02] <kbrooks> pitti: answer my questiion please
[02:02] <pitti> kbrooks: in Ubuntu, I made dhcp3-client run as unprivileged user "dhcp", and added a setuid-wrapper to allow dhcp to actually change network config
[02:02] <leonhunt> xorg uses 70% (1,2GHz P3) cpu power just dragging a window around.  Please, what to do?
[02:02] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: about smeg: i selected an image file that I made. Is it okay to delete that image file now?
[02:02] <disasm> zyga: inks too expensive get a black and white laser off ebay for $80 the laserjet 4m pluses work great
[02:02] <pitti> kbrooks: "deroot" == don't run as root, but only with minimal privileges
[02:02] <kbrooks> pitti:
[02:02] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: co clarify: I selected an image file as an icon.
[02:03] <pitti> kbrooks: mac os x just uses sudo, as Ubuntu does; that has nothing to do with privilege minimization of processes
[02:03] <zyga> disasm: I need about 50 with warranty so ebay is not an option
[02:03] <kbrooks> mac os x prompts you for the admin password when you try to execute programs (or use an area) which requires root privs
[02:03] <onkarshinde> bigfoot1: AFAIK, you shouldn't delete it. If you don't want garbage in home directory put the image in /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:03] <sn9> bigfoot1: don't delete
[02:03] <nessuno> nessuno ha risolto il problema di xsane con hp3770
[02:03] <starlight> HELLO W TO ALL MY FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:03] <dmlinux> Is there any sort of powermanagement for your video card for laptops?
[02:03] <bigfoot1> onkarshinde: okay, i'll put it there.
[02:03] <spiekey> hello!
[02:03] <kbrooks> pitti: I see
[02:04] <shukhrat> ompaul
[02:04] <bigfoot1> sn9: okay. i thought that smeg saves a copy for itself.
[02:04] <dao> !it
[02:04] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[02:04] <ompaul> shukhrat, >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << do that in a terminal
[02:04] <spiekey> is there a beta or RC Version of ubuntu?
[02:04] <missy> spieky?
[02:04] <kbrooks> spiekey: none
[02:04] <kbrooks> spiekey: breezy is out
[02:04] <ompaul> shukhrat, please take your time - there is a more detailed answer on the wiki but finding it is hard
[02:04] <spiekey> kbrooks : yes, but i need ubuntu with xen now ;)
[02:04] <kbrooks> tomorrow the next version of ubuntu ... well, you'll see ;)
[02:04] <nessuno> #ubuntu-it
[02:04] <spiekey> so i thought maybe a dev tree will have it
[02:05] <sn9> ompaul: shukhrat has intel video
[02:05] <benkong2> hello all why does my amd64-k8 kernel not get the new ubuntu artwork after an upgrade?
[02:05] <kbrooks> spiekey: priorities!
[02:05] <missy> spieky>
[02:05] <spiekey> kbrooks: can i read up the roadmap somewhere?
[02:05] <sorush20> my god damn printer will not print
[02:05] <kbrooks> spiekey: on the wiki
[02:05] <missy> i want to be ur chatmate if its ok for you?
[02:05] <bigfoot1> any productivity tools geared for GTD people?
[02:05] <kbrooks> search roadmap
[02:05] <kbrooks> missy: ...
[02:05] <missy> pls reply spieky?
[02:05] <missy> yesSSSSSS kbrooks?
[02:06] <missy> somthing wrong?
[02:06] <avalost> am I mistaken or has there been no updates in the past two days or so?
[02:06] <kbrooks> missy: why do u want to chat with other people
[02:06] <kbrooks> avalost: not yet
[02:06] <missy> coz im finding a boy friend
[02:06] <avalost> kbrooks: k
[02:06] <twibbler> Seveas: sorry to bother you but could you tell me the download site for skype please ....
[02:06] <inc|freaky> hi all, i got a problem: http://www.freakyy.de/docs/apt-get.txt can anyone help me?
[02:06] <avalost> google skype
[02:06] <shukhrat> intel i82850 internal device
[02:06] <missy> would you
[02:07] <avalost> inc|freaky: sec
[02:07] <inc|freaky> k
[02:07] <Seveas> twibbler, skype.com :)
[02:07] <sorush20> guys I can't access the printer form localhost:631, I keep getting message that I have the wrong pass..
[02:07] <onkarshinde> which is the best file system to use with Linux?
[02:07] <kbrooks> avalost: tomorrow the next version of ubuntu will start development
[02:07] <missy> elow
[02:08] <twibbler> Seveas: thank you is it stable now ?.
[02:08] <kbrooks> onkarshinde: None, but i generally recommend ext3
[02:08] <odd-> My net sucks gay balls.
[02:08] <avalost> inc|freaky: sorry man, I don't speak german, danish or whatever that is :P
[02:08] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: What are advantages of XFS or ReiserFS over ext3?
[02:08] <ompaul> shukhrat, you may also find useful information at this point: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:08] <bigfoot1> how come there are some icons on my menu that are there but, when clicked, say that the program is gone? What's the fastest way to get rid of them?
[02:09] <kbrooks> onkarshinde: No  idea. Why do u think i know everything
[02:09] <mahangu> if i upgrade to breezy and something borks, can i revert to hoary?
[02:09] <inc|freaky> avalente: wait ill translate it for you, its just: the following packages have unmet dependencies ... its the error message which is displayed often ;D
[02:09] <avalost> reiserfs is fast but sort of dangerous, ext3 is best for all around
[02:09] <avalost> reiser tends to break easily too
[02:09] <mahangu> ive heard some quirks with thinkpads and breezy
[02:09] <inc|freaky> avalente: my problem is, i need to know how i can resolve this or i wont be able to upgrade :(
[02:09] <avalost> inc|freaky: try: apt-get build-dep packagename
[02:09] <onkarshinde> kbrooks: Because you said that you recommend ext3. So I thought you have tried others.
[02:09] <pzico> default screensavers don't work on my laptop :(
[02:10] <kbrooks> onkarshinde: other than ext2 ...
[02:10] <kbrooks> no i havent tried others
[02:10] <inc|freaky> avalente: that would remove the package "kde" :((
[02:10] <pzico> is there also a newbie channel?
[02:10] <inc|freaky> avalost i mean  ^^
[02:10] <onkarshinde> pzico: No there isn't
[02:11] <avalost> inc|freaky: I see, perhaps you can do that then reinstall kde?
[02:11] <onkarshinde> pzico: Ask your question here only.
[02:11] <inc|freaky> hmm
[02:11] <inc|freaky> ill try
[02:11] <odd-> Who's got wine?
[02:11] <odd-> Heh, who's got I.E on ubuntu :p
[02:11] <avalost> I.E. makes me want to vomit uncontrollably.
[02:11] <ompaul> odd-, why would I taint my machine with that
[02:11] <dao> odd-, who wants to? :)
[02:12] <odd-> hah
[02:12] <ompaul> !tell shukhrat about res
[02:12] <pzico> My problem is that the screensaver never activates, unless I start it manually. (Blank after 1 minutes is set)
[02:12] <onkarshinde> odd-: You are wrong question at wromng time in wrong place
[02:12] <ompaul> shukhrat, there is more info on the subject of resolutions
[02:12] <dmlinux> odd- why the hell would you want IE on ubuntu
[02:12] <MaTaKs> where can i download xmms skins?
[02:12] <shukhrat> ompaul it doesn't work again
[02:12] <odd-> .. I'm being sarcastic.
[02:12] <mahangu> IE in ubuntu?
[02:12] <avalost> MaTaKs: google xmms skins
[02:12] <MaTaKs> the xmms-kjofol
[02:12] <odd-> Damn, where's your sense of geeky humor.
[02:13] <ompaul> !tell shukhrat about res
[02:13] <onkarshinde> pzico: blank after 1 minute, that's why screensaver never activated IMHO
[02:13] <dmlinux> odd- it died with my soul
[02:13] <avalost> thee are several places
[02:13] <kbrooks> odd-: that was SO FUNNY
[02:13] <odd-> dmlinux, great.
[02:13] <shukhrat> to whom ?
[02:13] <odd-> kbrooks, wasn't it.
[02:13] <kbrooks> seriously
[02:13] <ompaul> shukhrat, you have a message from ubotu read it, it is as much as one can suggest
[02:13] <dmlinux> Is there any sort of powermanagement for your video card for laptops?
[02:13] <_angel> hhm. I think universe and multi universe reps. are to install some extra packs .. right ?
[02:13] <dmlinux> in ubuntu that is
[02:13] <shukhrat> a aa  yes
[02:13] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: There should be an xmms-skins package in repo, but not sure how good are the skins. You can use winamp classic skins
[02:13] <shukhrat> got it
[02:14] <kbrooks> _anjel: "the universe of software packages"
[02:14] <MaTaKs> onkarshinde: ok thnx dude ill go check the skins
[02:14] <shukhrat> i'am new in Linux please don't smile
[02:14] <pzico> onkarshinde: it says that "blank after" is for setting time when screensaver activates.. not exactly to get blank
[02:14] <avalost> I would suggest using bmpX over xmms anyway or bmp
[02:14] <ompaul> shukhrat, I smile a lot why should I be sad?
[02:15] <twibbler> ok Skype problems. Downloaded debian install from skype saying cannot install due to dependency problems with . libqt3c102-mt
[02:15] <onkarshinde> Hey guys, check this status message from one of my friend. "I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code"
[02:15] <odd-> alrighty, later guys.
[02:15] <odd-> Nice metting ya. Hope to see ya soon, in a better state of mnd.
[02:15] <odd-> mind*
[02:15] <odd-> :) peace.
[02:15] <onkarshinde> twibbler: So search that package in Synaptic and install it.
[02:16] <egoleo> breezy marrilat keys
[02:16] <twibbler> onkarshinde: done that same problem ...
[02:16] <onkarshinde> pzico: No idea.
[02:16] <dmlinux> egoleo what are you talking about?
[02:16] <egoleo> talking abt this problem
[02:16] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:16] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:16] <MaTaKs> onkarshinde: ok dude im down downloading the skins from repo now where can i find it?
[02:16] <onkarshinde> twibbler: I suppose the latest version from skype <IP_ADDRESS> something uses some latest qt library. See if you can find <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:17] <MaX> yahoo... i just my Belkin54g network card going.
[02:17] <twibbler> onkarshinde: ok will do ....
[02:17] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: They must be somewhere in /usr/share/xmms/skins or something like that.
[02:17] <ompaul> !skype
[02:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:17] <MaTaKs> k
[02:17] <Seveas> ompaul, meh
[02:18] <Seveas> don't remind me that I have to fix my repo all the time :)
[02:18] <ompaul> Seveas, okay
[02:18] <onkarshinde> twibbler: Or download statically linked package instead of dynamically linked.
[02:19] <aftertaf> lol
[02:20] <egoleo> no help
[02:20] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:20] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:20] <pzico> what's the best irc client for linux? I liked mIRC with it's scripting on windoze
[02:20] <onkarshinde> pzico: xchat
[02:20] <cafuego_> pzico: Then you won't like the best Linux client. try xchat instead.
[02:20] <egoleo> xchat
[02:21] <pzico> I'm using xchat but this isn't to my taste, maybe I just need to get used to
[02:21] <sn9> mIRC sucks
[02:21] <_angel> xchat
[02:21] <onkarshinde> cafuego_: Do you mean that bext is GAIM? ;-)
[02:21] <GreenFireD> people! i have a big problem!!!
[02:21] <cafuego_> pzico: You could use gaim
[02:21] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: No, I don't.
[02:21] <pzico> isn't gaim slow and without scripts?
[02:22] <sH4> big. . .
[02:22] <cafuego_> pzico: The best is irssi, but that isn't a GUI app.
[02:22] <GreenFireD> I installed HebUbuntu(some package) and now some fonts is very small! look at the browser or at the terminal: http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adas9yf.png
[02:22] <onkarshinde> egoleo: I said you need to export GPG key for the repos. Easy to do from Synaptic.
[02:22] <avalost> there are heaps of IRC clients, BitchX, epic, irssi in text based, xchat, kvirc and others in gui
[02:22] <pzico> does xchat have a good script support?
[02:22] <avalost> pzico: of course
[02:22] <_angel> how to add a service to startup
[02:22] <_angel> ?
[02:23] <GreenFireD> and I can't open Synaptic, it's writing me some errors
[02:23] <cafuego_> pzico: Undoubtedly far better then mirc.
[02:23] <Dunston> Any one know how to install mysql? and set user and password?
[02:23] <pzico> ok, then I'll keep on using this
[02:23] <GreenFireD> E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (2 No such file or directory)
[02:23] <GreenFireD> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:23] <GreenFireD> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[02:23] <sorush20> I've restarted cupsys and hotplug but still not print.. kpdf sends to the printer but no results
[02:23] <_angel> isthere a Gui . that lists all services and I can choose
[02:23] <cafuego_> Dunston: sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client; mysql -u root. Enjoy.
[02:23] <_angel> which starts in which level _?
[02:23] <cafuego_> Dunston: mysql root password is blank by default.
[02:23] <Dunston> cafuego: thanks
[02:23] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: paste your sources/list file in pastebin.
[02:24] <onkarshinde> _angel: There must be something in System-Administration
[02:24] <GreenFireD> explain please
[02:24] <cafuego_> Dunston: There is also 'mysql-afmin' for GUI administration.
[02:24] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: Read my reply above.
[02:24] <sorush20> the printer test page gets printed no problems but I can't print any other documents..
[02:24] <GreenFireD> what to paste?
[02:25] <Orunitia> How do I install new fonts? Not from the repositories
[02:25] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: /etc/apt/sources/list
[02:25] <Orunitia> I have a few ttf files I want
[02:25] <procrastinator> is there absolutely no way to resize an ext3 partition without formatting?
[02:25] <_angel> how to add a service to startup
[02:26] <onkarshinde> Orunitia: Typing fonts:/// in nautilus should work
[02:26] <_angel> isthere a Gui . that lists all services and I can choose which starts in which level _?
[02:26] <Orunitia> onkarshinde: It won't let me copy fonts there though, not even as root.
[02:26] <GreenFireD> in /apt I have sources.list.backup and sources.list.save
[02:26] <onkarshinde> Orunitia: Then I don't know.
[02:27] <_angel> and I also congigure my machine and domain name ?
[02:27] <Orunitia> hmm
[02:27] <GreenFireD> in /apt I have sources.list.backup and sources.list.save witch od them ?
[02:27] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: Paste both of them at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:27] <Orunitia> ah nevermind, they actually are in the repositories. Makes that easy
[02:28] <D4rk> hi, my computer can't boot from cd although it detects the cd drive in the win 98 os and can read from it. is there any way installing ubuntu?
[02:28] <sn9> D4rk: use smartbootmanager
[02:28] <D4rk> what is it?
[02:29] <intelikey> or loadlin
[02:29] <sn9> D4rk: it's a floppy that lets many such computers boot from cd
[02:29] <GreenFireD> the buttons there is so small(like in the browser), where the "send" or something button?
[02:29] <D4rk> ok, i ll try
[02:29] <D4rk> tnx
[02:29] <egoleo> ok i will
[02:30] <quiet> Is there a fix for a boot-splash not working on any console res. higher than 800x600?
[02:30] <egoleo> thnx
[02:30] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: First button is search, second is Send.
[02:30] <GreenFireD> ok, what now?
[02:31] <intelikey> quiet mmm new hardware maybe ?
[02:31] <quiet> why would i need new hardware????
[02:31] <quiet> this is a notebook btw
[02:31] <egoleo> onkashinde >> can i get the KEY to export?
[02:31] <quiet> not too big of a deal... just kind of odd that it doesn't work right.
[02:31] <quiet> first time i'
[02:31] <GreenFireD> onkarshinde, what to do with this?
[02:31] <egoleo> bcos i am still getting that error using synaptic
[02:31] <quiet> i've seen it happen
[02:32] <axisys> anyone knows how to filter out the join and quit messages?
[02:32] <axisys> i am using irssi
[02:32] <egoleo> Seveas >> can i get the KEYS to export
[02:33] <Kaloz> [C/win 35
[02:33] <intelikey> quiet sounds like a framebuffering error.  might search the wiki's
[02:33] <egoleo> or the command to do that with the KEYS
[02:33] <onkarshinde> GreenFireD: At least your file looks okay. type command  'sudo cp /etc/apt.sources.list.backup /etc/apt.sources.list' on terminal (without quotes) And then tell me what you want to install.
[02:33] <sn9> axisys: there is a setting. i forget
[02:33] <MaTaKs> whats the command to unzip a file in terminal?
[02:33] <sn9> MaTaKs: unzip
[02:33] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: unzip
[02:33] <quiet> intelikey, probably... I found the error because I always boot with vga=773 and I wasn't getting the splash.. so I removed it, and there it was.
[02:33] <egoleo> i have added the christian marrilat
[02:34] <MaTaKs> unzip <file>?
[02:34] <egoleo> repos to my source.list
[02:34] <onkarshinde> MaTaKs: Yes.
[02:34] <MaTaKs> ok thnx
[02:34] <egoleo> now when i do update
[02:34] <sn9> egoleo: do not use marillat for ubuntu
[02:34] <egoleo> it complains of some KEYS
[02:34] <egoleo> so which one
[02:34] <egoleo> bcos i have mplayer running
[02:34] <intelikey> quiet try 781   and 789  both should work ok.
[02:35] <egoleo> but i have problem playing a dvd movie
[02:35] <Ng> axisys: I think this should work: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS
[02:35] <quiet> hrm... okay hold on
[02:35] <egoleo> i get this errpr
[02:35] <egoleo> error that
[02:35] <egoleo> the movie is encrypted
[02:35] <axisys> Ng: let me try
[02:35] <sn9> !tell egoleo about dvd
[02:35] <egoleo> so how do i watch this movie
[02:35] <thirso> hey guys im getting a wierd keyboard layout on cedega, where can i configure it?
[02:35] <egoleo> i am using breezy
[02:36] <Profeta> hey guyz, why I can use that d3a icons on gdesklet launcher bar?
[02:36] <Ng> egoleo: have you followed the DVD instructions on the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[02:36] <sn9> egoleo: hoary-extras works on breezy for now
[02:36] <egoleo> yes
[02:36] <LokeDK> Is it possible to disable the updaters stupid popup? it's ruining EVERY GAME I'M PLAYING
[02:36] <egoleo> now is complaining of KEYS
[02:36] <axisys> Ng: i think it is working, thnx a lot
[02:36] <egoleo> yes i used yje wiki
[02:36] <GreenFireD> nothing sucssess
[02:37] <dazvid> LokeDK, you can just right click it I thinks
[02:37] <egoleo> and is complaining of KEYS
[02:37] <Ng> egoleo: specifically, did you run the script that downloads libdvdcss?
[02:37] <dazvid> and disable
[02:37] <pdlnhrd> can someone help? i just installed ubuntu, and i am trying to figure out exactly which kernel i should have for my intel x86_64 proccessor?  i believe that i need an smp kernel for the hypertreading, but i don't see an option for an smp for x86_64
[02:37] <Ng> egoleo: sometimes people miss that bit
[02:37] <sn9> egoleo: hoary-extras will complain about keys. ignore it
[02:37] <egoleo> which is ?
[02:37] <egoleo> which script
[02:38] <egoleo> sn9
[02:38] <egoleo> still cant show dvd
[02:38] <LokeDK> can't disable it.. just have to live with it ruining games .. stupid FUCK
[02:38] <egoleo> so how do i ignore it
[02:38] <dazvid> Another happy customer?
[02:38] <sn9> egoleo: if you use hoary-extras, it will install, but still complain
[02:39] <odd-> :p
[02:39] <Ng> LokeDK: you could stop update-notifier, or file a bug, or send a patch :)
[02:39] <odd-> I was wondering how to do soemthing..
[02:39] <Ng> egoleo: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[02:39] <Ng> egoleo: (the script bit)
[02:39] <odd-> When I download files I usually have to go to their directories, so as to run them..
[02:39] <Ng> egoleo: if you already did that bit then ignore me and don't bother doing it again ;)
[02:39] <odd-> Is there any way to avert this so as to run them from any directory?
[02:39] <LokeDK> I'll send a patch when I have learned how to hack programs
[02:40] <odd-> It's just a long process.
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> LokeDK, i am confused. I get one update once every morning ...
[02:40] <thirso> whats the file i have to edit so that modules can automatically loaded?
[02:40] <quiet> intelikey, "insmod: can't read /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/vesafb.ko:' No such file or directory"    (that may not be exactly the string... I had to type before it scrolled off-screen... But it's definitely the vesafb.ko
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> I don't see how it disrupt my games or work
[02:40] <sn9> thirso: /etc/modules
[02:40] <aftertaf> odd-:  most things install to bin directories that are in path....
[02:40] <aftertaf> odd-:  you can add new paths to /etc/profile
[02:40] <Ng> wickedpuppy: it might steal focus or something
[02:40] <odd-> oh
[02:40] <odd-> oh okay..
[02:41] <ben801010> hello
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> Ng, once every morning when i boot my com ? I think its forgivable .. no ?
[02:41] <sn9> odd-: what did you download that you want to run that way?
[02:41] <odd-> nmap
[02:41] <topyli> odd-: you can make links: ln -s /opt/install/dir/program/bin/program /usr/local/bin/program
[02:41] <topyli> odd-: and it will be in your path
[02:42] <intelikey> quiet ya fb issue.   do a lsmod and see if vesa got loaded some time after that.
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> nmap if you install nmap from apt-get/synaptic , it will be in your path
[02:42] <Ng> wickedpuppy: I happen to agree with you, I leave my PC on all the time and some mornings there are updates waiting, howeever, I can also accept that timezones might mean that puts it in the middle of other peoples evenings and stealing focus is never cool ;)
[02:42] <topyli> odd-: if it doesn't work, make a little script that changes to the install dir and then runs the binary
[02:42] <pdlnhrd> anyone know how to pass the hostname parameter when asking for a dhcp address?  my dns entry is my mac address... i would prefer it to by my machine name
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> i mean odd-
[02:42] <sn9> odd-: nmap is in synaptic/apt-get
[02:42] <odd-> Oh..
[02:43] <odd-> No, I installed it from the site, I didn't check synaptic.
[02:43] <egoleo> NG >> says command not found
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> odd pls try apt-get/synaptic before downloading from the sites
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> debian has one damn big repo
[02:43] <Clayson> hey... why can't I remove agpgart in menuconfig and xconfig? (set it to N)
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:43] <egoleo> sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/example/install-css.sh: command not found
[02:43] <quiet> intelikey, yes, vesafb is loaded.
[02:44] <odd-> Alright..
[02:44] <odd-> :p
[02:44] <odd-> (Debian!)
[02:44] <odd-> Okay, but how do I run nmap from any dir. instead of running to that specific folder everytime.
[02:44] <aftertaf> odd-:  true, are you d/ling with apt-get, or getting deb files from websites?
[02:44] <dm_> nice, someone is trying to hack into my wireless router :)
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> but since you got it from insecure ... odd- i assume you just read slashdot ?
[02:44] <Ng> egoleo: that would mean you don't have libdvdread3 installed, which means you don't have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed, which means you probably didn't completely follow the RestrictedFormats wiki page DVD instructions
[02:44] <odd-> I got that from a site.
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> from a site ?
[02:44] <aftertaf> odd-:  run synaptic and reinstall it, itll be available for you
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> i assume its insecure.org ?
[02:45] <odd-> wickedpuppy, I got it from insecure, I don't read slashdot alot of the time anymore.
[02:45] <odd-> alright..
[02:45] <egoleo> ok
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> oh slashdot is interviewing fydor today
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> i thought you read it
[02:45] <odd-> That's cool..
[02:45] <odd-> Nah. I didn't.
[02:45] <topyli> odd-: like i told you. link it to /usr/local/bin
[02:46] <intelikey> quiet then it looks like the initrd will probably be at fault there,  you could make a new initrd.img with the specific settings for your hardware(if it is worth it to you, to see a few seconds of eye-candy at boot time.)
[02:46] <egoleo> NG > can i get the link again wiki
[02:46] <odd-> topyli sorry. Must have had two eyes in 4 places :p
[02:46] <sn9> egoleo: if you remove marillat and add hoary-extras in sources.list, you'll be able to install all you need
[02:46] <Ng> egoleo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:47] <egoleo> ok
[02:47] <_angel> I cannot type some chars in my Turkish keyboard
[02:47] <soo> ddr
[02:47] <_angel> how can I setup my keyboard
[02:48] <_angel> I did in istallition
[02:48] <salam> haloo
[02:48] <thirso> _angel, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[02:48] <egoleo> NG >>
[02:48] <soo>
[02:48] <egoleo> first is adding this to source,lsit deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[02:49] <odd-> _angel what did you install?
[02:49] <rohal> can anyone tell me which one should i opt for debian or ubuntu?
[02:49] <egoleo> and that is what is given me the problem
[02:49] <egoleo> NG
[02:49] <salam>
[02:49] <Ng> egoleo: right, ignore that bit, you don't need that repository for the dvd packages
[02:49] <_angel> kubuntu
[02:49] <Ng> egoleo: people keep rewriting that page so it makes no sense :(
[02:49] <egoleo> ok
[02:49] <egoleo> ok
[02:49] <intelikey> rohal that would be called "trolling"  :)
[02:49] <odd-> ko
[02:49] <sn9> egoleo: do not add marillat
[02:50] <egoleo> ok
[02:50] <egoleo> so i should take it off
[02:50] <Ng> yes
[02:50] <egoleo> so which one first
[02:50] <rohal> intelikey: which one u think is better?
[02:50] <topyli> rohal: which one do you like better? go with that one
[02:50] <aftertaf> rohal:  are you new to linux or not?
[02:50] <Ng> egoleo: start from the bit where they install totem-xine and some gstreamer stuff
[02:50] <rohal> i am not new to linux but to debian based linux
[02:50] <intelikey> but don't tell anyone else.....
[02:50] <egoleo> ok
[02:51] <egoleo> doing that
[02:51] <_angel> there is nothing like system -->prefs ??
[02:51] <odd-> -shouts-
[02:51] <topyli> rohal: ask here, people will probably recommend ubuntu. for a second opinion, ask on #debian :)
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> rohal, debian based red hat based ... all no different
[02:51] <mahangu> rohal, use ubuntu :p
[02:52] <salam> haloo for all
[02:52] <topyli> wickedpuppy: well, that's one of the biggest differences you can find among linux distributions :)
[02:52] <rohal> topyli: ubuntu...bcuz it is easily available...& easy to install...or there is anything else?
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> so is other distros ...
[02:52] <egoleo> Ng >> now is given me this problem rather
[02:52] <egoleo> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:53] <egoleo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:53] <rohal> wht if i want to install kde on ubuntu.....not kubuntu...:)
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> i tried fedora , suse , red hat , slackware , solaris , freebsd ... all no difference
[02:53] <Ng> egoleo: that's not really a problem, it's a warning, you can ignore it and still install packages
[02:53] <aftertaf> egoleo:  ignore, it willsoon be fixed
[02:53] <egoleo> ok
[02:53] <odd-> SIngapore must be a nice place to be in daily.
[02:53] <topyli> rohal: it has sane defaults all taken care for you. if you want to set it all up for yourself, debian is a clean table for you to mess on
[02:54] <aftertaf> rohal:  same thing.... ubuntu & kde becomes kubuntu. like kubuntu & gnome... both same base system.
[02:54] <Darkster> tag
[02:54] <odd-> thanks topyli..
[02:54] <intelikey> rohal trolling is generally frowned upon.    if you ask which is better linux or windows in a linux channel take a wild guess which they will say.   so you enter #ubuntu and ask "which should i use <blah> or ubuntu"    like duhhh  get a clue.
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> yup ... nothing exciting here ... unless i start installing gentoo .. lol
[02:54] <Rawplayer> which packages do i need to install to compile something from source?
[02:54] <rohal> topyli: i installed ubuntu yesterday...& its already messed up...
[02:54] <egoleo> Ng >> sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[02:54] <egoleo> also give me an error
[02:54] <topyli> Rawplayer: start with build-essential
[02:55] <egoleo> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[02:55] <aftertaf> rohal:  explain in what way it messed up.
[02:55] <rohal> intelikey: but since ubuntu & debian are like siblings so i thought you people wont be biased....
[02:55] <aftertaf> !tell egoleo about repositories
[02:55] <aftertaf> !tell egoleo about restricted
[02:55] <sn9> Rawplayer: you also need -dev pkgs depending on what you're compiling
[02:55] <intelikey> hehhe think again
[02:55] <topyli> rohal: cool! you have a project for the evening fixing it :)
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> rohal, you must be only child if you think siblings won't fight
[02:55] <egoleo> aftertaf
[02:55] <aftertaf> lol intelikey , here have a wooden spoon
[02:55] <egoleo> that is where i am
[02:55] <egoleo> that i am getting that problem
[02:55] <rohal> aftertaf:i am unable to launch X....it says bitmap module missing but i have already installed bitmap thrice...
[02:55] <aftertaf> egoleo:  go to and read those links, theyll help you
[02:56] <intelikey> probably more bias there than there would be in less related distros.
[02:56] <aftertaf> rohal:  thrice /:-)
[02:56] <sorush20> some of my print jobs don't get though to the printer.. they go into the queue and they just disappear.. how can I rest my printer..
[02:56] <aftertaf> rohal:  ill leave that t the experts ;)
[02:56] <intelikey> aftertaf thrice is a good word....
[02:56] <rohal> topyli:i always want it to be messed up....i have a gentoo installation which is running almost perfect....but i didnt want that......
[02:56] <topyli> sorush20: the power cord?
[02:57] <odd-> gentoo.
[02:57] <rohal> topyli:thats why moved to ubuntu....
[02:57] <odd-> Sux
[02:57] <odd-> gay
[02:57] <aftertaf> yeah intelikey i picked up on that majorly :D
[02:57] <odd-> nuts
[02:57] <sorush20> topyli: I've done that a hundred times..
[02:57] <Sonderblade> which ubuntu package(s) contain the gnu toolchain stuff?
[02:57] <odd-> slackware's a better distro than both ubuntu and gentoo.
[02:57] <cyphase> why is firefox segfaulting?
[02:57] <aftertaf> odd-:  dont troll
[02:57] <intelikey> rohal run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " and try again.
[02:57] <cyphase> on my fresh breezy installation?
[02:57] <sn9> Sonderblade: build-essential
[02:57] <topyli> !start a distro war
[02:57] <ubotu> topyli: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:57] <aftertaf> lol topyli :)
[02:57] <rohal> topyli:now i am planing to install kde in that ubuntu...to mess it up a little more...:)
[02:57] <topyli> oh, where are all the warmongering commands?
[02:58] <egoleo> aftertaf
[02:58] <egoleo> that is the same pages i had those commands from
[02:58] <egoleo> and i am getting those problem
[02:58] <rohal> intelikey:k thanks...
[02:58] <Sonderblade> sn9: it doesnt contain intltoolize it seem
[02:59] <leagris> I am still looking for a way to mount my cdrom in userspace while in cmd line
[02:59] <cyphase> Why is Firefox segfaulting on my fresh Breezy installation?
[02:59] <levander> Anybody got a link for what this new "server build" version of ubuntu is about?  Not finding a good description on ubuntu.com.
[02:59] <dazvid> !start an irc client war
[02:59] <ubotu> xchat is better than konversation !
[02:59] <leagris> I have looked at pmount-hal but how do I use it ?
[02:59] <nomed> hi all
[02:59] <levander> dazvid: there's a gnome irc client?
[02:59] <nomed> it seems i can't use nvidia driver
[02:59] <sn9> Sonderblade: pkg name: intltool
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> levander, x-chat
[02:59] <dazvid> apparently so
[03:00] <leagris> How do I know the <hal uid> of the cdrom ?
[03:00] <nomed> i cn't use 1024x768 res .. just 800x600
[03:00] <levander> leagris: what's wrong with the "mount" command
[03:00] <topyli> levander: xchat is close enough
[03:00] <dazvid> !start a desktop war
[03:00] <ubotu> cde is much better than gnome!
[03:00] <aftertaf> egoleo:  ok, nuff said.... paste your sources.list to a pastebin.....
[03:00] <nomed> does this happen to anyone else?
[03:00] <topyli> ooh, cde!
[03:00] <Sonderblade> sn9: thanks
[03:00] <intelikey> leagris in your /etc/fstab   add "users" to the line that describes your cdrom drive and make the mount point what ever you like.
[03:00] <aftertaf> egoleo:  but the gpg error is to be disregarded
[03:00] <leagris> the mount command does not work as a user and it dos not like to work with the media:// thing for removable mediums
[03:01] <levander> leagris: read what aftertaf said
[03:01] <sn9> leagris: mount can be made to work as user
[03:01] <egoleo> is where can i get a pastebin
[03:01] <mustard5> !tell nomed about fixres
[03:01] <topyli> leagris: you should enable user mounts in fstab
[03:01] <intelikey> leagris mount works for users   but you need "users" in the fstab
[03:01] <levander> nobody knows a good page describing the "server build" versoin of ubuntu?
[03:02] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[03:02] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:02] <dmlinux_> Oooh, ) playing with airsnort :) fun stuff
[03:02] <leagris> oki, but it ille interfere with the hald daemon tring to script automounting isn't it ?
[03:02] <topyli> levander: there's no separate server build. just install the base system by starting the installer with the "server" option, then add the services you wish
[03:02] <leagris> it may
[03:02] <intelikey> leagris something like "/dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto defaults,ro,noauto,users,umask=0 0 0"
[03:02] <sorush20> the more and more I use ubuntu
[03:03] <intelikey> leagris notice   "users"   ^
[03:03] <leagris> intelikey, I like the way I can show cd cdrom icon in gnome while inserting a cd
[03:03] <leagris> I don't want to break this
[03:03] <leagris> I thought I had to talk th hald daemon with pmount-hal in order to do this accordingly
[03:03] <egoleo> i have done than
[03:03] <intelikey> leagris it wont break it if you just add a line.
[03:04] <egoleo> so what will happen
[03:04] <intelikey> a device can be described more than one time in fstab
[03:05] <leagris> intelikey, ok that's neat. I didn't know it after 6 years of Linux. Thanks
[03:06] <leagris> New things goes, new kernels, now way of doing things as well. I tent to be a bit lost when ubuntu or a modern linux distro make sit too easy anotherway I didn't know off :)
[03:07] <dmlinux_> Wee cracking peoples Wep is awesome :P
[03:07] <leagris> sori, I tray hard not to go the hard low level to not break the nice advanced features
[03:07] <leagris> so I tray
[03:07] <egoleo> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:07] <nomed> mustard5: http://phpfi.com/82740
[03:07] <DarkSeid> folks fix the HAL problems yet?
[03:07] <intelikey> well test it and see if you don't like it you can always put it back like you had it leagris.
[03:07] <egoleo> error with it
[03:08] <egoleo> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:08] <egoleo> errors
[03:08] <clineco> when i try to install mplayer i get this message: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3240
[03:08] <nomed> it seems correct .. and ddcprobe gives me an empty string if i grep monitorrange
[03:08] <sn9> clineco: do not use marillat
[03:08] <DarkSeid> has the HAL problem been fixed yet?
[03:09] <leagris> you know. I am the blond geek girl, tweaking hard with smbclient for years and discovering the way Kde does it :)))
[03:09] <clineco> sn9, what repository should i use to install mplayer?
[03:09] <sn9> clineco: just the regular ubuntu ones
[03:09] <mustard5> nomed, did you see the message that ubotu sent you?
[03:09] <nomed> mustard5: yes ..
[03:09] <mustard5> nomed, did you read it?
[03:10] <jo> I would like to be able to download the NYTimes crossword program, acrosslite. And I also like a RealArcade game called Luxor. Is there software available to translate these?
[03:10] <nomed> i made the same that is explained on that link
[03:10] <mustard5> ah ok
[03:10] <mustard5> k
[03:10] <BluesRocker> How can I edit start menu?
[03:10] <clineco> sn9, i cant find the package on regular ubuntu repositories
[03:11] <onkarshinde> BluesRocker: smeg should be helpful.
[03:11] <nomed> anyone here has a toshiba satellite laptop?
[03:11] <DarkSeid> has the HAL problem been fixed yet?
[03:11] <mustard5> nomed, did following the instructions help at all?
[03:11] <sn9> clineco: are they all enabled?
[03:11] <daleth> So, what's the easiest wireless (b/g) PCMCIA card to get working in Ubuntu?
[03:11] <BluesRocker> !smeg
[03:11] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[03:11] <nomed> mustard5: i've never had problem with nvidia driver .. since xfree86
[03:12] <mustard5> nomed, did following the instructions help at all?
[03:12] <nomed> i think it depends on driver version
[03:12] <mahangu_> daleth, ive used usb devices, and asus is pretty easy
[03:12] <nomed> mustard5: not
[03:12] <BluesRocker> onkarshinde, tnx
[03:12] <mahangu_> ubotu tell daleth about wifi
[03:12] <mahangu_> check your pms daleth
[03:12] <sn9> daleth: netgear wg511t