[05:11] <TheMuso> Ok, I'm part of the way through porting to python 3, but when attempting to use pygeis, I hit an error with the callback wrapper in the bindings, and I don't have nearly enough experience with ctypes to know whats changed, or how it currently breaks. If someone is able to take a look and help me sort it out, that would be appreciated.
[05:11] <TheMuso> The branch is lp:~themuso/python3.
[05:11] <TheMuso> Thanks in advance.


[19:11] <onza> guys halp D:
[19:11]  * onza pokes turgay :3
[19:11] <Felishia> :<
[19:12] <Felishia> hallo :<
[19:39] <thiras> hola Felishia
[19:47] <Felishia> hola
[19:47] <Felishia> miarma


[00:02] <dmcglone1> Hi everyone
[00:05] <Cheri703> yo
[00:21] <dmcglone1> I'm trying to make firefox my default browser again and I can't seem to do so
[00:21] <Cheri703> edit > preferences somewhere
[00:21] <Cheri703> I think
[00:22] <dmcglone1> I changed to firefox in my "preferred applications" still not working. Maybe I need to log out and back in
[00:22] <dmcglone1> Hello Unit
[00:22] <Unit193> Hello dmcglone1!
[00:23] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: I think you'll need to mark it in firefox itself
[00:23] <Cheri703> hey Unit193
[00:23] <Unit193> Hey Cheri703
[00:24] <Unit193> Pressing the wrong button is very bad....
[00:24] <dmcglone1> let me try that Cheri703
[00:25] <Cheri703> try edit > preferences >advanced
[00:27] <dmcglone1> found it, it says "firefox is already your default browser" but when I click on links it's still opening in Chrome
[00:28] <Cheri703> turn it off and back on, look for a similar setting in chrome and turn it off
[00:29] <dmcglone1> it says it's not
[00:29] <dmcglone1> i'll be back
[00:35] <dmcglone> Ah well that didn't work
[00:36] <Cheri703> :( uninstall chrome?
[00:36] <Cheri703> why are you going back to ff?
[00:37] <dmcglone> it's just not all that
[00:37] <dmcglone> there I mean
[00:37] <Cheri703> yeah, I liked it at first and then found it lacking :/
[00:38] <dmcglone> I uninstalled it
[00:38] <dmcglone> I got me a web cam last night, wondering what I can get into with it
[00:38] <dmcglone> :-)
[00:39] <dmcglone> I got skype but only got 2 friends, my mom and sister.. LOL
[00:40] <Cheri703> heh
[00:43] <dmcglone> I missed my "read it later"
[00:43] <dmcglone> :-)
[00:43] <Cheri703> heh
[00:44] <Cheri703> yeah, the add-ons get to you after a while
[00:44] <dmcglone> I wish there was as way to combine the menu bar with the bookmarks bar
[00:45] <Cheri703> ff4 has something I think, hang on
[00:45] <Cheri703> nvm
[00:45] <Cheri703> there are add-ons to do stuff like that
[00:45] <Cheri703> I looked into it when I switched back :)
[00:47] <dmcglone> do you recall the names of them add-ons?
[00:47] <Cheri703> hmm...no, search "make firefox like chrome add-on" or stuff like that
[00:47] <Cheri703> I don't remember
[00:47] <Cheri703> compact menu bar, hide title bar
[00:47] <Cheri703> stuff like that
[00:50] <dmcglone> check out compact menu bar :-)
[00:52] <Cheri703> that may have been it
[00:53] <dmcglone> I installed it, looks good
[00:53] <dmcglone> :-)
[01:07] <Unit193> Move the bookmarks next to the tools and help bar?
[01:24] <dmcglone> I'm trying to think of my next PHP blog lesson
[01:28] <Unit193> I noticed you hadn't posted....
[01:31] <Cheri703> how do I force quit something?
[01:36] <Unit193> CTRL,ALT,ESC?
[01:36] <Cheri703> maybe
[01:51] <dmcglone> Unit193, I just posted one :-)
[01:53] <dmcglone> I've got an idea for tomorrow, so I'm gonna go get on my laptop and write one for tomorrow. Maybe even the next day.
[01:59] <canthus13> Cheri703: run xkill, click on the window.
[01:59] <Cheri703> ok
[01:59] <Cheri703> thanks
[01:59] <canthus13> YUp.
[02:00] <canthus13> ..or ps -A | grep <process>, then kill -9 <process #>
[02:00] <canthus13> killall <processname> might work, depending on how severely stuck it is.
[02:01] <Cheri703> that's a lot of steps
[02:01] <canthus13> depends.  I kill plugin-container all the time with alt-f2, killall plugin-container
[02:02] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[02:02] <canthus13> If I'm killing a stuck program on wife's/kids' machines, I'll ssh in and do the whole ps -A | grep... thing.
[02:03] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[02:04] <canthus13> I also use it if killall <process> doesn't work.
[02:47] <dmcglone1> Who goes there?
[02:48]  * Cheri703 is around
[03:03] <dmcglone1> I'm waiting for an e-mail from Matthew :-)
[03:06]  * Unit193 just watched AVP
[03:09] <Cheri703> nice
[03:11] <Unit193> Should you watch the others first?
[03:12] <dmcglone1> I'm going to lay down and watch tv myself.
[03:12] <Unit193> What one?
[03:12] <dmcglone1> I'm out for the night
[03:12] <Unit193> Night!
[03:12] <dmcglone1> g'night everyone
[03:14] <Cheri703> I've seen some of them, they don't especially appeal to me, they're cheesy
[15:02] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[15:03] <Cheri703> hi
[15:41] <thafreak> so, I'm behind the times, what's the difference between arch and gentoo?
[15:42] <Cheri703> *shrug* I have no idea
[15:42] <thafreak> I get how LFS is different from gentoo, as it's just a document...but is arch only really different in that it has an "installer"?
[15:42] <thafreak> Hmmm...
[16:31] <canthus13> thafreak: LFS is a nightmare.
[16:32] <canthus13> But fun. :)
[16:32] <canthus13> thafreak: Oh. and were you going for the silent bob look?
[16:34] <canthus13> Arch is quite a bit different from LFS.. and Gentoo. Arch has 4 letters... Gentoo has 6.
[18:41] <thafreak> canthus13: yes, that was probably me dressed up for halloween...I get that I look like kevin smith alot...so it was/is the easy costume
[18:48] <canthus13> Nice. :)
[18:48] <canthus13> Cheri703: How goes?
[18:49] <Cheri703> eh, all kinds of things up in the air atm, trying to reinstall network manager on desktop -_-
[18:52] <Cheri703> it's fun when there's a dependency that doesn't exist
[19:07]  * Cheri703 now has to reinstall on desktop :(
[19:07] <Cheri703> it's dumb
[19:08] <Cheri703> and dog is at the vet getting tests, and bosses are continuing to be crappy, husband is being pissy, so today is just kind of sucky :( sorry...
[19:38] <canthus13> Cheri703: All good. I'm in and out myself.


[00:58] <cheguevara> ping stdin
[01:00] <blizzzek> gn8
[03:04] <Jucato> hm... the new wallpaper looks... hm.... :)
[03:57] <ryanakca> Is anyone else having trouble starting amarok 3.5.8 in KDE4?
[04:02] <ryanakca> s/3.5.8/1.4.8/
[04:03] <DasKreech> KDE?
[04:03] <ryanakca> no
[04:03] <ryanakca> 22:55:37 < ryanakca> Is anyone else having trouble starting amarok 3.5.8 in KDE4?
[04:03] <DasKreech> kk
[05:01] <DasKreech> Ho Hibbsee
[05:14] <DasKreech> I mean Hobbsee
[06:10] <stdin> cheguevara: pong (if you're still awake)
[06:25] <Hobbsee> heya DasKreech
[06:27] <DasKreech> Hobbsee: So lucky
[06:27] <DasKreech> Just got me in bed
[06:27] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:28] <DasKreech> Night
[06:28] <DasKreech> Hobbsee: Are you near Aseigo and canllaith ?
[06:29] <Hobbsee> DasKreech: now?  i'm north of them, yeah
[06:29] <Hobbsee> they're in another state
[06:30] <DasKreech> ok so no chance of stopping in for tea? :)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> nope
[06:33] <DasKreech> :) night
[07:05] <blizzzek> moin
[08:20] <doc__> hi there
[09:54] <mornfall> Morning.
[10:13] <Riddell> mornfall: adept looking good but crashed on me when I "Apply Changes" Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap
[10:14] <mornfall> Hmh.
[10:14] <mornfall> Apt hates me.
[10:15] <mornfall> I haven't seen that bug for a long time though.
[10:15] <mornfall> Are you sure it's alpha2?
[10:15] <mornfall> Ie. does it have file list under details?
[10:22] <Riddell> mornfall: there's a Files tab with headers, it doesn't list anything
[10:24] <Riddell> mornfall: hah, you know what might help?
[10:25] <Riddell> if I ran it as root
[10:25] <Riddell> works perfectly
[10:25] <mhb> hehe :o)
[10:25] <mornfall> Ahh!
[10:25] <mornfall> : - ).
[10:25] <mornfall> Yes, those checks are still missing.
[10:26] <mornfall> Riddell: It only lists things for installed packages. I have fixed the tab title post-alpha I guess.
[10:26] <mhb> yup, it works
[10:26] <mhb> nice
[10:26] <mornfall> I have fixed some major slowness when selecting packages as well post-release, so no need to report that : - ).
[10:27] <mornfall> (Related to filling the list.)
[10:27] <mhb> some minor tweakies remain, though (if you click to Details after you install a package, it's not updated)
[10:27] <mornfall> Could be.
[10:28] <mornfall> Please note such minor issues and mail a summary to me, if you can.
[10:28] <mornfall> These are most easily overlooked and cause unneccessary unfinished look.
[10:28] <mhb> sure
[10:34] <mhb> Riddell: if you write "perli" in the search box, do you see the correct package?
[10:35] <mhb> Riddell: it appears to me that the result flashes for a second, then disappears
[10:35] <mornfall> Would be great if you also tested the debconf stuff.
[10:36] <mornfall> It worked for me, but that probably doesn't guarantee anything.
[10:37] <Tonio_> hi there
[10:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'd like your opinion concerning flash support in konqueror
[10:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: we have all the patches debian has to make it to work, but it doesn't....
[10:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: there is a patch for kdebase and one for kdelibs
[10:39] <Riddell> mornfall: installing gdm it seems to hang http://pastebin.com/m4287af94
[10:39] <mornfall> Ah. Subst, that I haven't encountered yet.
[10:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm unsure if we have to rebuild kdebase against kdelibs in fact.....
[10:39] <Riddell> Tonio_: do they have branch patches too?
[10:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: it currently still fails
[10:39] <mornfall> I'll have to check with the docs and implement that.
[10:39] <Tonio_> branch patches ?
[10:40] <Tonio_> Riddell: what do you mean by branch patches ?
[10:41] <Riddell> Tonio_: patches that contain the latest svn
[10:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: not to what I've seen
[10:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: btw we can expect a 3.5.9 for hardy right ?
[10:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: then no need to waste time on this, and just wait for 3.5.9 to get flash fixed, imho
[10:43] <mornfall> Riddell: I don't quite understand the SUBST bit, but I'll look at it later (the documentation and the debug output confuse me at best).
[10:44] <Jucato> Another mass deployment of Kubuntu (and Edubuntu) http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1163450117 (page 2 mentions that fact)
[10:45]  * Jucato wonders why this didn't come to the LoCo's attention... :(
[10:45] <Riddell> mornfall: sun-java6-jre also gets stuck http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/adept-debconf.png
[10:46] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes, although it would be nice to have patches for released versions
[10:46] <mornfall> Ok, CAPB, another one. Interesting that I always hit the easy testcases : - ).
[10:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: agree on that point
[10:46] <mornfall> (I haven't found package that would use either of those two. But CAPB is easy enough.)
[10:46] <mornfall> Noting both.
[10:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: well I'll review the patches today with comparison to debian and svn commits, and eventually will rebuild kdebase against kdelibs to be sure I'm not missing something
[10:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: then if it doesn't work..... we'll wait for 3.5.9
[10:47] <mornfall> Riddell: Hm, you have icons missing there...
[10:47] <mornfall> Weird.
[10:47] <Riddell> Jucato: excellent!
[10:48] <Riddell> mornfall: what's a good debconf test package?
[10:48] <Jucato> Riddell: yeah. gonna try to round up the Ubuntu-PH team and see where we can help :)
[10:48] <mornfall> Riddell: Dunno, I tried something from cups, resolvconf and a bunch of random ones that asked questions during upgrade.
[10:49] <mornfall> And x11-commond and xserver-xorg.
[10:49] <Tonio_> Riddell: postfix for example
[10:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: flash works :)
[10:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: I forgot the gtk-qt-engine patch :)
[10:50] <Riddell> Tonio_: ah hah
[10:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: talking about that I noticed gtk-qt-engine doesn't change gnome apps fonts now.....
[10:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll try to get that fixed today
[11:01] <luisbg> I'm making a package of a qt app I've written, can I have qmake move some files I need to /usr/share/myapp/ or do I have to do this in the packaging? I would prefer in qmake
[11:02] <Riddell> luisbg: that's a question for someone who knows about qmake, maybe try #qt, I'm sure it must be able to but if it can't it's trivial to do in the packaging
[11:03] <luisbg> hello Jonnathan
[11:03] <Riddell> hola luisbg
[11:04] <luisbg> yeah, in packaging it would be editing the posinst
[11:04] <luisbg> postint*
[11:04] <luisbg> but I prefer trying to make it work with qmake
[11:04] <luisbg> I'll ask in #qt
[11:04] <stdin> can't you just do it via the .install
[11:04] <luisbg> stdin, hm?
[11:05] <stdin> debian/package.install (or debian/install) <- it has the location to put all the files
[11:05] <stdin> you can move files about with that too
[11:06] <Riddell> luisbg: looking at packages which use qmake they mostly seem to install the files manually in debian/rules http://cdbs.ueberalles.net/_qmake.mk.html
[11:08] <luisbg> Riddell, wow, thanks
[11:52] <mornfall> Re. Any success with debconf?
[11:53] <mhb> mornfall: is there a list of packages that use it in some way?
[11:53] <Riddell> mornfall: postfix also got stuck on the same thing as sun-java
[11:53] <Riddell> mornfall: resolveconf did talk debconf but didn't ask me anything just resolved it itself
[11:55] <mornfall> Riddell: You can sudo vi /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and remove the seen flag on resolvconf.
[11:56] <mornfall> Postfix probably does have CAPB backup as  well.
[11:56] <mornfall> Well, I'll fix those this week, together with the other fixes that should be enough for alpha3.
[11:58] <mornfall>  And I should implement database locking and root/nonroot warnings. And recovery. That would be a good set of alpha3 goals.
[11:58] <Riddell> mornfall: resolvconf still seems to install without me needing to answer anything, although the debconf previous/next buttons do appear briefly http://paste.ubuntu.com/3970/
[11:59] <mornfall> Ah.
[11:59] <mornfall> I know.
[11:59] <mornfall> sudo sh -c 'DEBIAN_PRIORITY=low adept_manager'
[12:00] <mornfall> (Well, I don't have a dedicated testing install, so I can't really play too much with those.)
[12:00] <mornfall> Also
[12:00] <mornfall> Hm, nevermind, adept_debconf is not packaged (that's a graphical dpkg-reconfigure thingy).
[12:01] <Riddell> wow, genius, it works
[12:01] <mornfall> \o/ : - ).
[12:02] <mornfall> Hm, add the missing widgets to alpha3 goals (multiselect and maybe some others).
[12:40] <Riddell> apachelogger__: I've got the kde menu patches working for me, I think I'll just upload
[12:40] <Riddell> trouble is it needs every kde 4 package edited to install its .desktop files into the new location
[12:41] <Riddell> Tonio_: any plans to upload kdelibs (3)?
[12:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: nope, I already uploaded yesterday
[12:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: any fix I should look at ?
[12:46] <Riddell> Tonio_: you said you were adding the gtk-engine patch to the flash issues
[12:46] <Riddell> but maybe that's kdebase
[12:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: that gtk-qt-engine package :)
[12:46] <Riddell> ah, right
[12:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: kdebase and kdelibs patches are already in the repos :)
[12:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: I already uploaded gtk-qt btw
[12:46] <Riddell> guess I should look at SRU for them
[12:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: and I'll investigate at the fonts settings issue
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: that would be nice indeed, as a lot of people are installing flash manually....
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: debian as several patches, but I merged them
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: there is one patch for kdelibs, one for kdebase and one for gtk-qt
[12:49] <Riddell> that's a lot of compiling, good thing i have a dual core machine now
[14:07] <effie_jayx> hello all
[14:07] <jjesse> hello effie_jayx
[14:12] <Tonio_> Riddell: do we have a package for policykit-kde ?
[14:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: see http://svn.uludag.org.tr/uludag/trunk/PolicyKit-kde/
[14:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: would be nice to give an attempt, so that for once we wouldn't be a cycle late compared to ubuntu, no ?
[14:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: this is for kde3 atm
[14:22] <Riddell> Tonio_: don't think we do, but what does it do?
[14:23] <Tonio_> Riddell: equivalent to policykit-gnome, it's a gui
[14:24] <Riddell> Tonio_: ok, but what would use them?
[14:29] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum good point
[14:30] <Tonio_> Riddell: little question on that point, is everything related to policykit liked to the desktop or can you also manage permissions on the system on the command line side ?
[14:30] <Riddell> Tonio_: do package it indeed, but it still needs policykit use to be added somewhere (e.g. kde 4 kcontrol)
[14:30] <Riddell> Tonio_: it's intended for the desktop, in theory I expect it would be used for command line
[14:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum oki, so that's not of any use atm for kde3.....
[14:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: I expected it to be used at a more low level side...
[14:31] <Tonio_> s/more low/lower :)
[14:32] <Riddell> would be interesting to know where pardus are using it
[14:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum, indeed
[14:46] <iRon> Riddell: http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~bahadir/zangetsu/blog/2008/01/04/10/ (about PolicyKit in Pardus)
[14:48] <Riddell> they have their own user manager
[14:49] <Riddell> would be nice if they worked with the rest of KDE
[14:49] <iRon> yep
[14:49] <iRon> PolicyKit is not a magic.. PK is just an authentication mechanism which could be integrated with any part of desktop..
[14:51] <iRon> i've started research on it.. i'll create a wiki page with all my thoughts and progress..
[14:51] <iRon> Riddell: or may be better create Blueprint in LP?
[14:52] <Riddell> iRon: since it's a KDE issue and not really Kubuntu specific I'd keep it to wiki.kde.org
[14:52] <Riddell> although that's a horrible wiki
[14:52] <iRon> :)
[14:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just received the gtk-qt-engine update from the repos, I can confirm konqueror finally displays flash :)
[14:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: and talking about pardus, I'll investigate concerning their policykit usage within kde
[14:56] <Tonio_> iRon: ah you already did ;)
[14:57] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum, oki that's just for their home made tools
[14:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: not of any use since everyone is going kde4 this year
[15:50] <buz> are the dates in kdepim enterprise releases the date of the svn snapshot they've been built from?
[15:54] <Riddell> buz: yes
[15:54] <buz> i just reported a bug against 20080127
[15:54] <buz> now i'm trying to figure out if it comes from upstream
[15:54] <Riddell> lure might know, when he's around
[15:55] <buz> its https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/187086
[15:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 187086 in kdepim "kmail 4:3.5.7enterprise20080127-0ubuntu1 breaks filtering: only first mail is filtered" [Undecided,New]
[17:34] <jpatrick> evening toma
[17:35] <toma> evening
[17:43] <Dekans> hello all
[17:44] <jpatrick> hello Dekans
[17:44] <Dekans> Riddell: can i ask you some tips in query ?
[17:47] <Dekans> does someone knows if kopete will support jingle libraries in kubuntu 8.04 ?
[17:47] <Dekans> know*
[17:48] <jpatrick> Dekans: no idea, best ask in #kopete I guess
[17:48] <Dekans> i'm not sure because kopete can already be compiled with voice support for xmpp
[17:50] <jpatrick> Dekans: well, we don't develop it so, we won't know :)
[17:50] <jpatrick> Jucato: yo
[17:50] <Jucato> yo
[17:51] <Dekans> jpatrick: I mean that tje kubuntu package is compiled without jingle support, because it was not stable enough for gutsy
[17:51] <jpatrick> ah
[17:51] <Dekans> maybe it's good now.... or not ^^
[18:05] <Riddell> Dekans: havn't looked at it in ages, I seem to remember Hobbsee did too a while ago
[18:06] <Dekans> Riddell: I wanted to ask you wich options are required for kernel compilation for a Live CD
[18:07] <Riddell> Dekans: I've no idea
[18:07] <Dekans> don't you create the kubuntu desktop CD's ?
[18:07] <Riddell> I don't package linux
[18:08] <Dekans> I thought you managed Kubuntu CD's
[18:09] <Riddell> most of what's on a kubuntu CD is managed by other ubuntu teams
[18:11] <Dekans> ok
[18:11] <Dekans> can I find help for it on ubuntu-devel ?
[18:19] <jpatrick> Dekans: maybe for the kernl: #ubuntu-kernel
[18:23] <Dekans> jpatrick: thanks
[18:23] <Dekans> tanks Riddell too
[18:35] <blizzzek> hi
[18:47] <nixternal> The 10 000 Ubuntu machines will run a mixture of Edubuntu and Kubuntu, and will form part of the next phase of the roll-out.
[18:47] <nixternal> interesting
[18:52] <DasKreech> who?
[18:53] <jjesse> what's that from?
[18:55] <stdin> I think http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1163450117
[18:55] <yuriy> mornfall: ping
[18:58] <nixternal> I read it on the planet, but there is a link to what stdin posted I believe
[18:58] <nixternal> anywho, back to bed for me...time to fill up with more oj, tea, and water
[18:58] <jjesse> did you see that Jamie from Mythbusters recommends Ubuntu over Vista?
[19:00] <stdin> I'd recommend cheese over Vista...
[19:01] <jjesse> mmm cheese
[19:02] <nixternal> jjesse: where did you see that?
[19:02] <nixternal> Jamie rocks!
[19:02] <nixternal> I have been laying in bed watching mythbusters
[19:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: we should create a kde4-cdbs package
[19:13] <Riddell> the files could just go in our cdbs, renamed
[19:14] <apachelogger> hehe, maybe someone should do this then ;-)
[19:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: if I change a debian patch, should I rename it to kubuntu_?
[19:19] <jpatrick> Riddell: any date for the next meeting?
[19:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes, it's gets confusing if our patches don't have kubuntu_
[19:20] <Riddell> jpatrick: I seem to remember people wanted one on thursday
[19:20] <apachelogger> ok
[19:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, why do we need to set the complete path in the kde4 desktop files?
[19:21] <jpatrick> Riddell: so, thrusday it is?
[19:21] <apachelogger> shouldn't that be attached automagically by the KDE 3 patches
[19:21] <apachelogger> and kde 4 is having the correct $PATH anyway
[19:22] <Riddell> apachelogger: so that gnome can find the apps
[19:23] <apachelogger> ah, true :)
[19:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you finish the transition yet?
[19:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: which?
[19:24] <Riddell> jpatrick: dunno, I might be out on thusday evening
[19:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: path change for kde4 desktop files
[19:24] <jpatrick> ah well then :)
[19:32] <mornfall> yuriy: pong
[19:41] <DasKreech> Do we have two PPAs for KDE4 ?
[19:42] <jpatrick> DasKreech: ~kubuntu-members-kde4 should ibe it
[19:43] <DasKreech> are we still doing weekly builds?
[19:45] <apachelogger> DasKreech: more like: when someone has time
[19:45] <jpatrick> !life | DasKreech
[19:45] <ubotu> DasKreech: life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:45] <jpatrick> ;)
[19:48]  * DasKreech cracks up
[19:48] <DasKreech> !botsnack
[19:48] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[20:48] <buz> Lure: i reported the kmail issue before
[20:48] <buz> i'm wondering if its an upstreeam issue really
[20:50] <Lure> buz: we do not patch anything in filtering
[20:50] <buz> so i thought
[20:50] <buz> are kdepim-enterprise bugs to reported in kde bugzilla?
[20:50] <Lure> buz: upstream is looking into it - they have merged lots (100s) of commits from 3.5 branch and it may broke something
[20:50] <buz> ok
[20:50] <Lure> buz: some, some are in kdab bug tracker
[20:50] <buz> i'm using 20080118 for the time being
[20:51] <Lure> buz: till in #kontact said that he will look into this tommorow
[20:51] <Lure> we all want to get as much bugs aout before 3.5.9 release of merged kdepim
[20:51] <buz> well obviously ;)
[20:52] <uga> guys, I just noticed that strigi search replaces completely kfind now
[20:52] <buz> i'm at work tomorrow, but should be able to check in irc occasionally
[20:52] <uga> but... have you noticed it's not translated at all?
[20:52] <buz> so if any questions arise, just pm me
[20:52] <uga> is it possible to disable that?
[20:52] <uga> it's really useless
[20:54] <uga> did I get some wrong package, or is this normal now in kubuntu? I'm trying to upgrade a pc that had a nicely working feisty,... for a person that is clueless about computers and ... errm... doesn't know english
[20:55] <uga> and now I get this "surprise"
[20:55] <buz> what version
[20:55] <uga> gutsy, just updated
[20:55] <buz> cant remember seeing strigi doing much there
[20:56] <buz> truth to be told, strigi generally doesnt seem to be doing much aside crawling the FS once
[20:56] <uga> I didn't notice it in my desktop either (I'm on self-built kde4 here), but when I got this box updated.... I'm confused
[20:56] <uga> an option in kmenu for strigi desktop search
[20:56] <buz> well strigi is installed in gutsy i know that
[20:57] <buz> could you simply change the option to kfind?
[20:57] <uga> I'd want kfind back for now. This thing is not i18n()ed yet
[20:57] <uga> buz: that's my intention :/
[20:57] <buz> should be possible to edit the path and change it to kfind no?
[20:58] <uga> yes, through kmenuedit, gui even
[20:59] <uga> I think I'll keep both
[20:59] <uga> I may avoid trouble finding it back when upgrading again
[20:59] <uga> okay, done
[21:00] <uga> anyway, I think kfind should find its place back for now, there, by default
[21:00] <buz> to be honest i barely ever use the kmenu so i'm not the one to judge :P
[21:00] <buz> alt-f2 is just so much more useful :P
[21:02] <smarter> Are we going to package qdevelop?
[21:02] <uga> yeah, well, this is a laptop from a person taht doesn't know command line
[21:02] <uga> and shortcuts
[21:02] <uga> buz: after all kubuntu is all about non-knowledgeable users being able to use linux
[21:03] <buz> yeah i know. my gf's father has a kubuntu machine :P
[21:04] <smarter> Or more exactly: if I package QDevelop, will it be accepted in Hardy? :}
[21:07] <Riddell> don't we have packages of it?
[21:07] <jpatrick> they didn't get past REVU I think
[21:08] <DasKreech> !info qdevelop hardy
[21:08] <ubotu> Package qdevelop does not exist in hardy
[21:08] <Riddell> there's an entry in launchpad, so it's been uploaded but presumably rejected https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qdevelop
[21:09] <Riddell> I don't see any message in ubuntu-archive
[21:09] <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-archive/2007-October/011725.html
[21:10] <smarter> So, can I try to fix the package? It's still on revu: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qdevelop
[21:11] <Riddell> smarter: go ahead
[21:11] <smarter> cool :)
[21:11] <jpatrick> yay for... left behind binaries?
[21:11] <smarter> 'night everyone
[21:11] <smarter> BTW, I've packaged the Qt4 Bespin style for people who don't like Oxygen ;) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde4-style-bespin
[21:11] <jpatrick> bonne nuit smarter
[21:12] <smarter> thanks jpatrick ;)
[21:13] <buz> i'd love to see domino for kde4
[21:14] <buz> but the way i used domino was quite close to oxygen anyway
[21:14] <buz> btw, how comes sometime i get kde4 colors in kde3 apps and sometimes not? (inside kde4 session)
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> buz: like which apps are you getting color in?
[21:15] <buz> sometimes kmail is kde4 style, but usually not
[21:15] <buz> konversation stays kde3
[21:15] <buz> and i think i saw akregator once in oxygen colors
[21:15] <nosrednaekim> odd. my kde3 apps never aquire the kde3 colors
[21:16] <nosrednaekim> *kde4
[21:16] <buz> yeah lately i havent seen it either
[21:16] <Riddell> ah, nosrednaekim, we still want to get the desktop effects applet packaged up
[21:16] <buz> oh there's a apply colors to non kde4 applications checkbox in appearance->colors
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> Riddell: I'm sorry, I don't know any packaging :)
[21:17] <Riddell> nosrednaekim: remind me again where it is?
[21:17] <jpatrick> ~kubuntu-users
[21:17] <nosrednaekim> ~/kubuntu-users/desktop-effects-kde
[21:18] <jpatrick> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/guidance/desktop-effects-kde
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> thanks jpatrick
[21:53] <Lure> what to do if application does not have icon (new package): what to put in .desktop file?
[21:53] <apachelogger> Lure: choose one from stock kde which fits best
[21:54] <apachelogger> if you can't find anything use a gear :)
[21:54] <Lure> apachelogger: and notify upstream to add .desktop + icon for next release?
[21:54] <apachelogger> yup
[21:55]  * apachelogger mosty notifies upstream about everything
[21:55] <Lure> apachelogger: stock kde being "hicolor"?
[21:55] <apachelogger> I think I would find my self highly annoying :D
[21:55] <apachelogger> Lure: crystalsvg
[21:55] <apachelogger> only app icons go hicolor
[21:56] <Lure> apachelogger: right
[21:56] <apachelogger> Lure: what app are we talking about anyway?
[21:56] <Lure> apachelogger: qlandekarte
[21:56] <Lure> qlandkarte even ;-)
[21:56] <apachelogger> the app isn' t that nu, is it?
[21:57]  * apachelogger is wondering why none made an icon yet
[21:57] <Lure> it is pretty new and they have some xpm stuff in code for icon
[21:57] <Lure> ugly
[21:57] <Lure> no wort using that
[21:58] <uga> Riddell: if I translate the strigi page is there any chance it can be used?
[21:58] <uga> I'm not sure if there's any localisation there ....
[22:01] <apachelogger> Lure: hehe... well... you can throw an xpm in /usr/share/pixmaps
[22:01] <apachelogger> and use that for now
[22:02] <Riddell> uga: I expect so, it should be just i18n'ed strings
[22:02] <Lure> apachelogger: not sure I want that.. ;-)
[22:03] <apachelogger> hehe, ok :)
[22:03]  * apachelogger heads off to bed though
[22:03] <apachelogger> nini
[22:03] <Lure> apachelogger: good night
[22:04] <jpatrick> gute nacht apachelogger
[22:04] <jpatrick> oh, wait, I forgot, no german after 10
[22:06] <mhb> why not?
[22:06] <mhb> or, more precisely, warum nicht?
[22:06] <Riddell> why yes, it is a warm night
[22:08] <jpatrick> mhb: keine Ahnung, something he told me not to do (with him at least) ;)
[22:48] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: looks like they didn't get your no OT messae (?)
[22:52] <mhb> Riddell: entschuldigung
[22:54] <mhb> wow, I crimped my first RJ-45 using ordinary pliers
[22:54] <Riddell> is that like an entwickler?
[22:54] <Riddell> congratulations, those thing are always fiddly
[22:58] <Lure> is it normal to install binaries with caps in /usr/bin (e.g. /usr/bin/QLandkarte)?
[22:58] <Lure> or should we rename them?
[22:59] <mhb> Riddell: its more like "please put all guilt away from me"
[22:59] <Lure> oh, so we should put debhelper >= 6 now?
[23:00] <mhb> Lure: it is definitely not normal.
[23:00] <mhb> Lure: I'd say it is "ugly"
[23:00] <Lure> mhb: I have no command with caps and I get lintian warnings (as manpage is small letters only)
[23:00] <jpatrick> X11
[23:01] <Lure> jpatrick: ;-)
[23:01] <Lure> good catch, will fix that also ;-)
[23:01] <Riddell> Lure: there's no policy against it, but it's not pretty indeed
[23:01] <mhb> jpatrick: VirtualBox does it too (I hate him for that, by the way)
[23:01] <jpatrick> Lure: yeah, we probabaly should debhelper 6 now (keep -motu happy)
[23:02] <Riddell> should probably readup on what the difference is in 6 first :)
[23:02] <Lure> Riddell: if it works, I do not care ;-)
[23:09] <Riddell> obviously don't use debhelper 6 for anything you think might be backported
[23:10] <Lure> Riddell: it is new package, are such backported?
[23:10] <Riddell> if someone wants it in gutsy
[23:11] <Riddell> if it's not very popular then probably not
[23:11] <Lure> ok, will stay with 5 then
[23:13] <Lure> Riddell: it is the best gps utility for Garmin GPS, so I suspect it might be wanted
[23:14] <mornfall> yuriy: Ping? You wanted something/
[23:26] <yuriy> mornfall: about the weird searching i mentioned
[23:26] <yuriy> an example: search for ksm
[23:26] <yuriy> should come up with ksmserver, among other things
[23:26] <yuriy> it flickers something, then blank
[23:28] <Lure> jpatrick: how quickly does revu pick up uploads?
[23:29] <stdin> it does it every 10 mins from my experience
[23:30] <Lure> stdin: thanks
[23:30]  * Lure want to get to bed, but not before I see it on revu
[23:31] <Lure> ok, here it is
[23:32] <Lure> any motu have time to revu the qlandkarte package for me: bug 103324 has all details
[23:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 103324 in ubuntu "[need-packaging] QLandkarte" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103324
[23:32]  * Lure -> bed, good night all
[23:34] <mornfall> yuriy: Well, that's basically not weird, since "ksm" is not a word per se.
[23:42] <mornfall> yuriy: You could do partial matches on everything, but that'll lead to weirdness as well.


[01:41] <jk^> [16:53] <LioneLL> ok
[01:41] <jk^> [16:59] <LioneLL> can u see the files on the usb ?
[01:41] <jk^> yes
[01:49] <dudz> are you stuck in windows at the moment and you have no cdrom on the computer you are trying to liveboot?
[01:53] <dudz> jk^: ^
[01:53] <jk^> i want to try by usb pendrive
[01:54] <dudz> i just wonder if you have no other option but to use something like unetbootin or are you on a mac or linux machine already?
[01:56] <dudz> for me, it has been a very long time since i have used unetbootin, the last few times i've made bootable usb sticks i've just used cat to output the image file to the device containing my usb stick.
[01:56] <jk^> i'm on win now
[01:56] <dudz> ok
[01:57] <dudz> and are you able to try make a bootable cd?
[01:57] <jk^> on #ubuntu-it they tells me to try rufus
[01:57] <jk^> but i received two messages
[01:57] <dudz> someone here said that too
[01:57] <dudz> https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[01:58] <jk^> i did
[01:58] <jk^> it ask me to install syslinux 6.03 and like that
[01:58] <jk^> i don't remember well
[01:59] <jk^> the dialog message
[01:59] <jk^> have u a workin dcc?
[01:59] <jk^> dudz
[01:59] <dudz> i'm not sure i have not used dcc in years
[02:00] <jk^> i tried to send
[02:00] <dudz> there is this one too, linked from rufus website
[02:00] <dudz> https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3
[02:01] <dudz> is it just a picture jk^ ? maybe upload it to picpaste.com or something
[02:02] <jk^> no
[02:02] <jk^> log file
[02:02] <jk^> activate your dcc send
[02:02] <dudz> i dont use it enough to care howto do that
[02:03] <jk^> ok
[02:03] <jk^> is there a flood protection?
[02:03] <dudz> i think yes
[02:03] <dudz> what about a paste website
[02:05] <dudz> paste.org perhaps?
[02:05] <jk^> however before doing bootable usb live, rufus ask me to download some files
[02:05] <jk^> on #ubuntu-it they tells me to click "Yes" so it tried to dowload these files but in log i read the files are not been downloaded
[02:05] <jk^> Downloading 'ldlinux.sys' from https://rufus.akeo.ie/files/syslinux-6.03/20151222/ldlinux.sys
[02:05] <jk^> Unable to send request: Unknown internet error 0x00002F7D
[02:05] <jk^> Could not download the file - will try to use embedded 6.03 version instead
[02:05] <jk^> Downloading 'ldlinux.bss' from https://rufus.akeo.ie/files/syslinux-6.03/20151222/ldlinux.bss
[02:05] <jk^> Unable to send request: Unknown internet error 0x00002F7D
[02:06] <dudz> chuck it on paste.org or some site like that jk^
[02:07] <jk^> [04:06] <jk^> Downloading 'ldlinux.sys' from https://rufus.akeo.ie/files/syslinux-6.03/20151222/ldlinux.sys
[02:07] <jk^> [04:06] <jk^> Unable to send request: Unknown internet error 0x00002F7D
[02:07] <jk^> [04:06] <jk^> Could not download the file - will try to use embedded 6.03 version instead
[02:07] <jk^> [04:06] <jk^> Downloading 'ldlinux.bss' from https://rufus.akeo.ie/files/syslinux-6.03/20151222/ldlinux.bss
[02:07] <jk^> [04:06] <jk^> Unable to send request: Unknown internet error 0x00002F7D
[02:07] <jk^> [04:06] <jk^> Could not download the file - will try to use embedded 6.03 version instead
[02:07] <dudz> those links are dead links
[02:07] <jk^> i don't like site to paste :\
[02:07] <jk^> ok i will try tomoroww
[02:07] <jk^> tomorrow
[02:07] <jk^> now i have to go
[02:08] <jk^> thanks a lot :)
[02:08] <dudz> you can download syslinux from their website perhaps
[02:08] <dudz> if thats all you need for rufus
[02:08] <jk^> i don't know what are they :|
[02:08] <jk^> and where to put them :|
[02:09] <jk^> dudz
[02:09] <dudz> did you say you don't have a cdrom btw?
[02:10] <jk^> what does it mean "btw"?
[02:10] <dudz> by the way
[02:10] <jk^> i want to use a pendrive
[02:10] <dudz> yes, but maybe we make the pendrive later when you are inside linux
[02:11] <jk^> however, now i can't do none of them
[02:11] <jk^> i have to go
[02:11] <jk^> here in italy
[02:11] <jk^> it's 4
[02:11] <jk^> :)
[02:11] <jk^> bye thanks
[02:11] <dudz> too late
[02:11] <dudz> np, night sir
[16:02] <bonuomo> ciao


[13:41] <skay> I've got an interesting new failure
[13:41] <skay> "ERROR cannot load cookies: invalid character 'Y' looking for beginning of value"
[13:42] <skay> I had to force reboot my laptop for another problem, and now I get this when I run juju status
[13:42] <skay> and most likely any other command though I've only tried destroy-model so far
[14:31] <skay> I can't do anything, and I've restarted my basenode
[14:37] <skay> for posterity... juju installed in snap mode deposits files in ~/.local/share/juju/
[14:38] <skay> and I removed my bad cookie, and voila (or voila if you are feeling sympathy and want to play a large violin)
[14:38] <skay> dammit I meant to mispell voila
[14:38] <skay> viola
[14:38] <skay> sad trombone
[15:07] <rick_h> skay: so you're good or ungood?
[15:17] <skay> rick_h: I'm good now. I got help suggesting to check if I had any corrupted local config files. I had expected to find them in ~/.juju, then checked ~/snap/juju then Spads suggested .local/
[15:18] <rick_h> skay: yea, the confinement moves stuff around a bit for the snap
[15:18] <skay> I've been pondering if there is anything to add to docs that would help, but can't figure
[15:18] <rick_h> skay: glad you're back off to the races
[15:18] <rick_h> skay: yea, it's a tough one as it's hopefully not something repeatable/etc.
[15:19] <skay> rick_h: agreed. maybe the only thing to update would be about where local settings are stored. if I think of anything to improve I'll open an issue or make a pr
[15:19] <rick_h> skay: ty
[15:52] <bdx> is there a charmhelper somewhere for modifying open files limits?
[16:44] <skay> mthaddon: I have a script called in my mojo spec that requires virtualenv, and my manifest includes python-virtualenv with builddeps. can you see anything I may have overlooked to explain why a script wouldn't be picking up virtualenv https://pastebin.canonical.com/202483/
[16:45] <skay> the build-static-resource scripts requires it
[16:45] <mthaddon> skay: do you have the output which shows where it's not picking up virtualenv?
[16:46] <skay> mthaddon: yes, https://pastebin.canonical.com/202485/
[16:47] <skay> whoops, probably should be pastebin for ubuntu
[17:56] <bdx> https://jujucharms.com - soooooo sloww
[17:56] <bdx> https://jujucharms.com/u/jamesbeedy/
[17:57] <bdx> I cant get my user page to load
[17:57] <bdx> are there squirrels in the pipes again?
[18:47] <rick_h> bdx: tracking what's up. It sure seems like something is sapping bandwidth out. Things are up but responding minutes slow for some reason. Will see what folks are seeing might be ddos or something like that.
[18:48] <bdx> rick_h: thx
[18:51] <rick_h> bdx: hmm, actually I'm having general internet issues atm. I'm not able to get to outside stuff either. /me checks wtf
[18:52] <bdx> rick_h: same
[18:52] <rick_h> bdx: comcast?
[18:52] <bdx> yeah
[18:52] <rick_h> bdx: yea, seeing lots of reports of comcast issues atm
[18:55] <rick_h> bdx: seeing someone say "so level3 celebrates its sale by breaking its name servers" so seems like something is going boom big out there.
[18:57] <rick_h> heh, the outage comments are getting bad now. Issues from NJ to CA and those of us on business accounts and such having issues so lots of folks unable to take customer calls/etc. ouch
[18:57] <bdx> wow
[18:58] <bdx> well at least my dc <-> aws is safe
[18:58] <bdx> :) :)
[19:00] <rick_h> bdx: so I moved to my verizon hotspot and interwebs are faster than they've been all day
[19:00] <rick_h> bdx: so definitely a "depends on which pipes your on" kind of day unfortuantely
[19:04] <bdx> right, I just did the same
[19:04] <bdx> I need to change my vpn port to 443
[19:04] <bdx> or something
[19:05] <bdx> my hotspot device blocks all udp on 1192
[19:05] <bdx> possibly all udp in general, idk
[19:05] <bdx> its horrible though
[19:05] <bdx> so muy internet definitely got faster, although I am then blocked by the provider restrictions
[19:06] <bdx> what a horrible device
[19:06] <bdx> blast
[19:06] <rick_h> ouch
[19:06] <bdx> yeah
[19:07] <bdx> thats it
[19:07] <bdx> im taking the day off
[19:07] <bdx> the gods have frowned upon my doings
[19:32] <rick_h> bdx: heh, hitting the news sites now https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/6/16614160/comcast-xfinity-internet-down-reports
[20:45] <BarDweller> hi =) is there a simple way to get rbac running with conjure-up kubernetes-core ?


[07:39] <mihir> any idea , how can we check the object type, wthr its an integer or a date?
[12:23] <ubuntudroid> hi all, is this the right place to ask questions regarding ubuntu app development?
[12:24] <netcurli> yes
[12:24] <ubuntudroid> great
[12:24] <ubuntudroid> I have a problem with deploying my app to the emulator. The log always tells me the following:
[12:24] <ubuntudroid> [13:18:45] bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Invalid argument
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> bash: no job control in this shell
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> QUbuntu: Could not create application instance
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> [13:18:45] bash: [2976: 3 (255)] tcsetattr: Invalid argument
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> [13:18:45]
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> [13:18:45] /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_device_run_app finished with code 134
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> any clues on what's going on here?
[12:25] <ubuntudroid> using the ubuntu sdk for deploying
[12:27] <netcurli> what kind of app do you have? pure qml?
[12:27] <ubuntudroid> yes
[12:27] <ubuntudroid> further up the log says: "[13:26:32] Going to execute: export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-pmTAINg59o; APP_ID=UrlShortener qmlscene  /home/phablet/dev_tmp/UrlShortener/shortener/UrlShortener.qml --desktop_file_hint=/home/phablet/.local/share/applications/UrlShortener.desktop "
[12:28] <ubuntudroid> I think one of the attributes given here is the root for the problem
[12:28] <ubuntudroid> shall I post my .desktop file?
[12:29] <netcurli> if you want: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:29] <ubuntudroid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7101641/
[12:30] <ubuntudroid> the app runs fine in qmlscene viewer on my desktop pc
[12:30] <netcurli> you can create a click package in the Publish tab and let the sdk validate that for you
[12:31] <netcurli> that should find common mistakes
[12:33] <ubuntudroid> how long should that normally take? ubuntu sdk shows a notification with Click Reviewers t... (not sure how to expand that), but the progress bar stays empty
[12:34] <ubuntudroid> log says "Package has been created to
[12:34] <ubuntudroid> /home/ubuntudroid/Projects/ubuntu-project/com.ubuntu.developer.ubuntudroid.atomurl_0.1_all.click"
[12:34] <ubuntudroid> but the notification stays open with 0% progress
[12:35] <netcurli> what version of ubuntu do you use?
[12:35] <ubuntudroid> sorry, forgot to mention: 13.10
[12:35] <ubuntudroid> the emulator itself runs just fine
[12:35] <netcurli> do you have the ubuntu-sdk ppa enabled=
[12:35] <netcurli> ?
[12:36] <ubuntudroid> yes, just received the emulator package update 2 days ago
[12:36] <ubuntudroid> before the emulator stopped during boot
[12:37] <ubuntudroid> but the update sorted that out
[12:38] <netcurli> do you have click-reviewers-tools installed?
[12:38] <netcurli> (not sure if that gets automatically installed with the sdk)
[12:38] <ubuntudroid> oh, didn't knew I had to
[12:38] <ubuntudroid> doing that now
[12:40] <netcurli> if you have that, the click validation in the sdk should work
[12:40] <ubuntudroid> yeah, now the notification's progress bar properly filled up and the notification disappeared after packaging was done
[12:40] <ubuntudroid> no error messages however
[12:41] <ubuntudroid> at least not in the ide - are they located somewhere else?
[12:42] <netcurli> you can see the messages "click-check-lint" etc in the publish tab now?
[12:42] <netcurli> on the right hand side
[12:43] <netcurli> if there were errors they would show up there
[12:45] <ubuntudroid> nope, there is nothing like that on the right hand side
[12:46] <netcurli> you can also run click-run-checks on the command line
[12:47] <netcurli> http://imgur.com/paxAXf3
[12:47] <netcurli> this is how it looks for me
[12:48] <ubuntudroid> oh, that's strange, I don't see the entire validation panel
[12:48] <netcurli> you might have to restart the sdk and/or create the package again
[12:50] <ubuntudroid> ah, okay
[12:52] <ubuntudroid> okay, that's strange - now I just have the validation panel but the left panel which I've used for creating the package is gone
[12:52] <ubuntudroid> maye a bug in the sdk?
[12:52] <ubuntudroid> at least validation works now and shows some errors
[12:52] <netcurli> that's strange indeed.. I haven't had that before, might be a bug, yea
[12:52] <netcurli> ok
[12:53] <ubuntudroid> okay, I'll go and try to fix these error first and report back afterwards - thanks for your help! :)
[12:55] <ubuntudroid> okay, small update on the publish panes: the click pane reappeared as soon as I loaded the project into the ide - simply forgot to do that after restarting^^
[12:55] <ubuntudroid> now there's two shiny panes :)
[12:55] <netcurli> ok :)
[13:08] <ubuntudroid> well, it works now (sort of) - the action item I had defined in my .desktop file caused the installation problem as the Name and Exec attributes obviously occurred twice in the file
[13:09] <ubuntudroid> this seems to be a bug from my pov
[13:10] <ubuntudroid> after removing the action items the application started, but showed a black screen - afterwards I tried installing it which created another instance (also black). Then I switched back to the first instance which out of a sudden now showed my UI.
[13:11] <ubuntudroid> not sure what to make of that
[13:49] <ubuntudroid> ah, swiping horizontally over the application makes it show its UI properly. it always starts black initially.
[14:02] <ubuntudroid> okay, next problem - somehow my icon isn't picked up: I added one (icon.png) in the app's main directory and then linked it in the .desktop file like so "Icon=icon.png"
[14:02] <ubuntudroid> However it is never shown
[14:04] <nik90> netcurli: do you happen to know if it is possible to install touch-apps on trusty desktop using click packaging?
[14:04] <nik90> netcurli: or should I provide a PPA to users or testers who want to try my app on their desktop?
[14:05] <popey> nik90: dont
[14:05] <ubuntudroid> @nik90: when I try to open my click package in software center, I always get an error stating, that it couldn't be opened - however this is on 13.10, maybe 14.04 has better support for that
[14:06] <popey> nik90: it may work, but you dont get confinement for one
[14:06] <nik90> popey: don't to which statement?
[14:06] <popey> sorry, pressed enter too early ☻
[14:07] <popey> I would provide a ppa with a deb in it for desktop users for now.
[14:07] <nik90> popey: ah that's good...because I have a plan. I am intending to create a PPA for Flashback and more to provide testers to help test Flashback on their desktop. This should help with convergence testing.
[14:08] <nik90> popey: Do you know if the click package of clock app contain the debian folder? Or is it removed just before creating the click package and uploading to the store?
[14:09] <nik90> ubuntudroid: ok.. yeah I got that as well
[15:30] <ahayzen> nik90, ping
[15:54] <ubuntudroid> I simply cannot make my app icon appear in the emulator - there must be some hidden trick besides putting the Icon=icon.png line into the .desktop file and making sure, that "icon": "icon.png" is part of the manifest.json. Any hints?
[15:57] <ubuntudroid> Btw, the app only very rarely appears under installed apps after installing it on the emulator via Ubuntu SDK. Directly running it via CTRL-F12 always works. Could that be a hint, that I did something wrong or is it just an emulator shortcoming?
[16:40] <timppa> hi, any QML experts online?
[16:40] <timppa> My hair is falling as I try to test conditional layouts on trusty
[16:41] <timppa> should they work with Qt5.2?
[18:11] <timppa> It seems that if one uses MainView { -block then layouts don't work!? I also might be doing something wron
[18:11] <timppa> g
[20:15] <nik90> ahayzen: late pong
[20:20] <ahayzen_> nik90, was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/u1db-qt/+bug/1266478
[20:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1266478 in Ubuntu Music App "Query model doesn't work properly with a multilevel document list" [Medium,Triaged]
[20:20] <ahayzen_> nik90, appears to be sortof fixed in trusty
[20:21] <ahayzen_> nik90, i tried building a test app here https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/+junk/test-u1db-playlist-app
[20:21] <ahayzen_> nik90, it is based on ur example with the addition of filtering
[20:21] <ahayzen_> nik90, but as u can see u can't access playlist.name
[20:21] <cwayne> hey, has anyone else had any issues with Timers?  it seems that it's never getting triggered
[20:21] <nik90> ahayzen_: yup it got fixed, however make sure it is on the phone
[20:22] <cwayne> unless I do triggeredOnStart..
[20:22] <ahayzen_> nik90, not a trusty VM?
[20:22] <nik90> ahayzen_: I am on trusty
[20:22] <ahayzen_> nik90, it seems to be better than before
[20:23] <nik90> ahayzen_: however one of the bug fixes for u1db was reverted, can't remember if it was the multilevel fix or not
[20:23] <nik90> cwayne: did you start the timer?
[20:24] <cwayne> nik90: yep, and i console.logged timer.running to verify its true
[20:26] <nik90> cwayne: weird..I use timers regularly in the clock app
[20:27] <cwayne> yeah, i wonder if i'm doing something stupid...
[20:29] <nik90> cwayne: can you pastebin the timer code
[20:30] <cwayne> nik90: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7104344/
[20:36] <nik90> cwayne: hmm looks okay to me
[20:36] <cwayne> nik90: yeah :/  and if i uncomment startOnTriggered it runs twice
[20:39] <nik90> cwayne: weird....I just do timer1.start() and it does its thing
[20:40] <cwayne> huh, i wonder whats going on here then :/
[21:41] <cwayne> ugh, i have no idea how I could be doing this wrong...
[22:02] <JoshStrobl> Hey guys, who is responsible for the HTML5 App Launcher?
[22:08] <daker> JoshStrobl: hi
[22:08] <JoshStrobl> hello daker
[22:08] <daker> what's your issue ?
[22:08] <JoshStrobl> daker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-html5-theme/+bug/1289873
[22:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1289873 in Ubuntu HTML5 UI SDK "HTML5 App Launcher fails if there is a space in one (or multiple) of the dir path" [Undecided,New]
[22:09] <JoshStrobl> That's my problem :D
[22:09]  * daker tests
[22:10] <JoshStrobl> If I know where the HTML5 app launcher code is, I'd hunt down the bug and fix it myself.
[22:11] <daker> it works for me
[22:11] <daker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7104852/
[22:12] <daker> it launch the app but the webview is empty
[22:13] <JoshStrobl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7104857/
[22:13] <JoshStrobl> directly from "Run" in Ubuntu SDK
[22:14] <daker> yes confirming the bug
[22:16] <daker> JoshStrobl: i'll ask the dev to take a look at it tomorrow
[22:17] <JoshStrobl> thanks daker
[22:17] <daker> yw
[22:18] <popey> \o/
[22:18] <daker> _o_
[22:18] <daker>   /\
[22:19] <popey> close, no cigar
[22:22] <JoshStrobl> daker is this bug in the right place? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-html5-theme/+bug/1289870
[22:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1289870 in Ubuntu HTML5 UI SDK "Create a project HTML5 dialog | incorrect title and double listing" [Undecided,New]
[22:22] <SimonK1> Has anyone yet gotten ContentHub (via qml) to work via the "Run" command in Ubuntu-SDK? I provided a "APP_ID" environment variable (the name of my project)
[22:23] <daker> JoshStrobl: not sure but just leave the bugs their, i will ask the dev tomorrow he will know for sure
[22:23] <JoshStrobl> noted
[22:24] <daker> alex-abreu: ^


[00:26] <netritious> agreed Omnifrog :D
[00:26] <netritious> hello wrst Unit193 bbl
[00:49] <wrst> Omnifrog: I prefer to blame everything on women :)
[00:50]  * Unit193 emails wrst's wife.
[00:50] <Omnifrog> it's for the best, really >.>
[00:50] <wrst> Unit193: no
[01:26] <Omnifrog> AWWW!
[01:27] <Omnifrog> Tom Magliozzi, Popular Co-Host Of NPR's 'Car Talk,' Dies At 77
[01:51] <wrst> Yeah loved that show Omnifrog
[01:51] <wrst> Didn't realize they went to MIT
[01:51] <wrst> I read that somewhere todah
[01:58] <Omnifrog> yeah, they did!
[01:59] <Omnifrog> their yuck yuck radio personas made people think they were hicks
[02:00] <Omnifrog> but they were far from it
[02:01] <wrst> Yeah they obviously were very intelligent , takes someone really bright to make people that don't know a tire from a turn signal understand what is wrong with their car
[02:02] <wrst> But didn't realize that
[02:03] <Omnifrog> and then to go on to make an iconic radio show that lasts for ages!
[02:03] <Omnifrog> surprising thing for me was how old they are!
[02:03] <Omnifrog> or were>.>
[02:11] <wrst> Yes
[02:11] <wrst> Didn't realize that either
[17:58] <Unit193> froggie!
[18:02] <froggie> hiya!
[18:18] <wrst> hello
[22:55] <netritious> howdy. apologies for leaving so quickly...pc was shutting down and had enough time to say "hey, gtg" lol
[22:59] <Unit193> Hah, nice!
[22:59] <Unit193> And this is IRC, are we supposed to be offended? :P
[23:42] <wrst> netritious: we are used to that by now ;)


[01:16] <Griffinstein> can you all help me get 32 bit libraries on lubuntu
[01:17] <Griffinstein> im running the latest and greatest 64 bit lubuntu
[01:21] <ianorlin> add :i386 after the package name when isntalling by apt-get
[01:22] <Griffinstein> i used to use ia32-libs but im just trying to get 32 bit libraries for steam
[10:27] <santhosh> what is the kernel version of lubuntu 14.04
[19:07] <jpentland> Hi, I'm trying to get autologin to work in lubuntu. I edited lxdm.conf but nothing changes when i try to enable it
[19:08] <jpentland> I think maybe because I created the user with adduser then it is unable to log into the user
[19:08] <ianorlin> lubuntu uses lightdm for recent releases
[19:11] <jpentland> I'm on precise
[19:12] <jpentland> Maybe I can just install lightdm anyway, or upgrade to a newer base version
[19:13] <jpentland> thanks
[19:13] <ianorlin> I think it was lightdm on precise as well and precies was ont a long term support realse for lubuntu
[19:41] <silicone> Would anyone happen to know where I could download the lubuntu 14.04 icon set? For use in an lxde environment...
[19:43] <wxl> !info lubuntu-artwork | silicone?
[19:50] <silicone> ubottu: Sorry, bit of a newbie  would I use sudo apt-get install lubuntu-artwork?
[19:50] <silicone> Ha ! a bot... It got me
[19:54] <silicone>  How can I open another channel in webchat.freenode?
[19:55] <silverlion> silicone : "/join #channelname" without the " ;)
[19:56] <silicone> silverlion: Thanks!
[19:56] <silverlion> u r welcome ;)
[20:52] <wxl> anyone know how hdmi audio/video out works with trusty?
[21:08] <ianorlin> unforatenlty not as I don't have an hdmi monitor
[21:08] <ianorlin> if I get one I would have speakers that can plug into the back of monitor
[21:08] <ianorlin> for hdmi only
[21:09] <holstein> wxl: depends on the hardware support.. try a live CD
[21:09] <holstein> works "out of the box" on everything i have to test with here.. audio and video
[21:10] <ianorlin> I don't really have a set of speakers for my pentium 4 box though and don't have headphones
[21:44] <wxl> holstein: that's good enough for the time being
[21:56] <simpleuser1> Hi there. I just made a dist-upgrade and now every time the screen of my laptop goes black (screensaver) there’s a prompt to check my password…
[21:57] <simpleuser1> -_-' Any idea how to remove this?
[21:57] <holstein> simpleuser1: i use the setting for the password promt, or locking when going to standby
[21:57] <simpleuser1> holstein: Where is this setting?
[21:58] <holstein> simpleuser1: i find it in the power managment
[21:59] <simpleuser1> Don’t have it. I have something like "activate the screensaver when hibernate"
[21:59] <simpleuser1> (in french. Sorry for the translation ^^)
[21:59] <holstein> it'll be, "lock"
[21:59] <simpleuser1> I unchecked that but… Nothing.
[21:59] <simpleuser1> No other option.


[11:57] <cmaloney> Reminder: MUG Meeting tonight: http://www.mug.org/?page=CiviCRM&q=civicrm/event/info&reset=1&id=69
[13:05] <widox> cmaloney: haha, gnu.singles. is it April 1st?
[13:13] <cmaloney> Not sure.
[13:13] <cmaloney> I think that was an april first joke now that you mention it
[23:01] <cmaloney> https://plus.google.com/events/cmpj0ftcupgfhtmj5rd8f9kq078 <- MUG Meeting link


[02:10] <philipballew> kdub, makin your way down?
[02:24] <philipballew> SD Ubuntu hour is goin good
[02:25] <philipballew> 6 people including myself
[02:26] <akk> Hi everybody in SD!
[02:27] <philipballew> hello akk!
[02:41] <MarkDude> Hmmm BAMF account was erased apparently on G+
[17:48] <philipballew> Any cool San Fransico people wanna let me sleep on their floor/couch on Monday may 27th so I can catch as early flight to texas linux fest?
[17:49] <pleia2> probably
[17:58] <raevol> philipballew: how was the ubuntu hour
[17:59] <philipballew> pleia2, yeah, probably someone
[18:01] <raevol> philipballew snubs me because i had to miss the ubuntu hour :(
[18:01] <raevol> i'm sorry philipballew i am sorry!
[18:02] <philipballew> raevol, had 5 new people. Went really well
[18:02] <raevol> wow that's like more than double?
[18:02] <raevol> ubuntu is hot in san diego
[18:04] <philipballew> Ubuntu is getting pretty hip
[18:05] <philipballew> Might outgrow the venue sooner or later
[18:06] <raevol> hehehe
[20:37] <philballew> pleia2, did you do post meeting, or would you like me to tackle that?
[21:33] <pleia2> philballew: if you have time, it'd be great if you could take care of it :)
[21:35] <philballew> pleia2, alright!


[08:19] <pratikt> hello
[11:28] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:37] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: morning :)
[11:40] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: my contacts synced on my pc :)
[11:41] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: you mean, from your phone? :)
[11:53] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: how is your project coming along?
[11:56] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I'm currently working on the Service. it's a pretty big chunk of code, I have to shuffle around some sources so that
[11:56] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: the client work in the background safely, even if the user leaves the Activity
[11:57] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: plus, when that's done, up/download should be piece of cake.
[11:58] <duanedesign> mkarnicki: nice
[11:59] <mkarnicki> duanedesign: I'll let you know when I'm done with that part :)
[13:45] <abhi_nav> hi
[13:45] <abhi_nav> hello duanedesign
[13:47] <rye> abhi_nav, hi
[13:48] <abhi_nav> rye, hi
[14:13] <duanedesign> abhi_nav: welcome back :)
[14:14] <abhi_nav> duanedesign, hello! so today anyone free to help?
[14:14] <jdobrien> abhi_nav, what's up?
[14:14] <duanedesign> yep :)
[14:15] <abhi_nav> duanedesign, so issue is i set up mobile syc. but it gives error that Data transfer not possible. Check data connection.
[14:16] <abhi_nav> duanedesign, also contacts are not syncd. i added contacts to evolution ubuntu one folder. but they are still not uploaded. :(
[14:17] <duanedesign> abhi_nav: you added contacts to evolution or a file in ~/Ubuntu One
[14:17] <abhi_nav> duanedesign, to evolution
[14:18] <abhi_nav> beuno, ping
[14:18] <duanedesign> abhi_nav: ok. Contact sync is still disabled
[14:18] <abhi_nav> duanedesign, :!
[14:18] <duanedesign> abhi_nav: i know :\
[14:18] <beuno> abhi_nav, hi
[14:18] <abhi_nav> hi beuno
[14:19] <abhi_nav> beuno, mobile syncing problem. you free to talk?
[14:19] <beuno> abhi_nav, yes
[14:19] <abhi_nav> beuno, it gives error that data transer not possible. check data connection
[14:19] <beuno> the evolution issue is because replication is disabled from/to the desktop
[14:19] <beuno> abhi_nav, what's your mobile username?
[14:20]  * abhi_nav confused.
[14:20] <abhi_nav> beuno, what is mobile user name? ohhh igo tiit wait
[14:20] <duanedesign> rye: are you aware of any bug reports about ubuntuone-syncdaemon process running when you open a nautilus window even though Ubuntu One is 'disabled'. disabled == taken off 'startup applications'
[14:21] <abhi_nav> beuno, 89637154
[14:23] <rye> duanedesign, i believe that is because syncdaemon needs to handle the case when it is reenabled
[14:23] <rye> nautilus plugin requests state of the directory...
[14:23] <rye> hmm
[14:23] <beuno> abhi_nav, looking through the logs
[14:23] <rye> duanedesign, i believe nautilus plugin should read the config file to see whether it should be doing anything
[14:23] <rye> rodrigo_, ^
[14:24] <rye> however
[14:24] <rye> duanedesign, if syncdaemon is not started then any dbus call will start it
[14:24] <abhi_nav> beuno, ok
[14:25] <rodrigo_> rye, duanedesign: yes, there's a bug about it
[14:25] <beuno> abhi_nav, so, there is no record of your device contacting the server
[14:25] <abhi_nav> beuno, yes cant establish connection
[14:25] <beuno> abhi_nav, it's an issue with either the configuration on your device
[14:25] <beuno> or your internet connection on it
[14:26] <abhi_nav> beuno, i can login to internet using opera from my mobile so i dont think its network issue
[14:26] <beuno> make sure that you put the correct hostname (http://syncml.one.ubuntu.com/)
[14:27] <abhi_nav> ok wait
[14:28] <abhi_nav> beuno, address is correct
[14:28] <beuno> abhi_nav, so maybe its trying to use the wrong internet connection?
[14:29] <abhi_nav> beuno, means? i only have one internet connection
[14:29] <beuno> abhi_nav, I don't know really
[14:29] <abhi_nav> :|
[14:30] <beuno> each device and provider have their own crazy set of rules
[14:30] <beuno> all I can tell you is that our servers are working
[14:30] <beuno> abhi_nav, this is a nokia, right?
[14:30] <abhi_nav> beuno, nokia 2700 classic
[14:31] <beuno> abhi_nav, and are you using the native syncing or the funambol client?
[14:31] <abhi_nav> beuno, funambol as described in the phone settins page
[14:32] <beuno> abhi_nav, try using the native sync
[14:32] <abhi_nav> beuno, how to do that?
[14:32] <beuno> abhi_nav, you probably have a "sync" option somewhere burried
[14:33] <abhi_nav> beuno, yes I have and there are only four opitons, phone switch, create backup,resotre backup(which is disable) and data transer
[14:33] <abhi_nav> beuno, among that for funamblo i go to data transwer
[14:34] <abhi_nav> beuno, under phone switch =synchronise it demansds for devices to conenct e.g. bluetooth etc
[14:34] <beuno> abhi_nav, I don't know the specific instructions for each phone
[14:35] <abhi_nav> beuno, ok
[14:35] <beuno> but you can create a new profile
[14:35] <beuno> and punch in the information
[14:35] <beuno> and sync from there
[14:36] <abhi_nav> beuno, ok. is it possible to tell my mobile to use my computer's internet connection?
[14:43] <beuno> abhi_nav, not sure
[14:43] <abhi_nav> beuno, ok
[15:30] <LaserJock> is there some setting I can change to make to have Ubuntu One not sync any desktopcouch DBs or would I need to remove Ubuntu One altogether?
[15:33] <rye> LaserJock, you can remove the pairing for desktopcouch so that no attempt will be done to sync it
[15:35] <rye> LaserJock, go to ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html and visit management database
[15:36] <LaserJock> rye: ok
[15:37] <rye> LaserJock, you will find two records there, one for local server id and another - replication info for ubuntuone
[15:39] <LaserJock> rye: ok
[15:40] <LaserJock> rye: so if I just remove those 2 records it should "forget"?
[17:20] <dnielsen> a number of my u1ms downloads have been stuck with the message "transferring to your Ubuntu One storage" fir days
[17:21] <beuno> dnielsen, hi
[17:21] <beuno> mattgriffin, you around?  ^
[17:21] <mattgriffin> beuno: :)
[17:21] <dnielsen> using the banshee extension on 64bit maverick
[17:22] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: can you private message me the email address that you use for Ubuntu One so I can check your account?
[17:22] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: thanks... checking
[17:24] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: our records show that the songs have been delivered to your ubuntu one cloud storage successfully. can you see the purchased song files at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ ?
[17:25] <dnielsen> yes.. odd
[17:25] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: hmm... are you seeing other files sync successfully between your desktop and the cloud?
[17:26] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: the My Downloads page will continue to show the "Transferring..." status until all files are downloaded to your desktop
[17:26] <dnielsen> yesand upon checking .ubuntuone/ has the files as well.
[17:27] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: hmm... but they're not showing up in Rbox?
[17:27] <dnielsen> using banshee, but no, only 2 of the songs from the black album shows up
[17:28] <dnielsen> and the rest first flash 0 mbs transferred then transferring from  u1 in the extension
[17:28] <dnielsen> the green day song I bought did correctly dowload and show up in bnashee so I figured it was a u1 fail
[17:28] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: i noticed the artist's name has an accent. do the tracks that show up in Banshee have accents?
[17:29] <dnielsen> yeah
[17:30] <dnielsen> that incidently is a metadata mistake which 7digital are fixing as we speak
[17:30] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: ah ok. i'm a little stumped why the other songs are not automatically added to Banshee though
[17:30] <dnielsen> yeah, me as well
[17:30]  * mattgriffin fires up banshee
[17:31] <dnielsen> give me a few, dinner time
[17:31] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: ok
[17:44] <dnielsen> back
[17:56] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: just saw your back message. i think this is a bug with the banshee extension b/c my copy of banshee isn't finding my purchased songs folder in .ubuntuone
[17:57] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: i'll file a bug against the extension project for the banshee team to investigate
[17:57] <dnielsen> mattgriffin, okay I will take that up with Jo then
[17:57] <dnielsen> thank you
[17:57] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: np :)
[17:59] <jcastro> dnielsen: if you file a bug please subscribe me to it!
[17:59] <jcastro> I just realized I have that problem too
[18:00] <dnielsen> jcastro, sure thing, just let me work on this crasher I just had in Banshee and it will be my very next bug
[18:00]  * jcastro nods
[18:03] <mattgriffin> dnielsen, jcastro: doh... just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee-community-extensions/+bug/604699
[18:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 604699 in banshee-community-extensions (Ubuntu) "Music purchased from the Ubuntu One Music Store isn't appearing in music library (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:04] <jcastro> mattgriffin: whatever, we'll sort it, heh
[18:04] <mattgriffin> :)
[18:07] <dnielsen> sounds like someone might want to file that upstream as well
[18:54] <mkarnicki> any maintanance?
[18:54] <mkarnicki> I/AndroidU1.Main(  305): sending request to Ubuntu One...
[18:54] <mkarnicki> E/AndroidU1.Main(  305):
[18:54] <mkarnicki> E/AndroidU1.Main(  305): java.net.UnknownHostException: Host is unresolved: one.ubuntu.com:443
[18:54] <mkarnicki> this problem just popped, so I don't think its a bug in my code
[18:58]  * mkarnicki does reboot
[19:05] <Guest96775> Sorry I'm new I thought I put it as Nick
[19:06] <Guest96775> Is there anyone who can help with an UbuntuOne Music store issue? More specific I can't view "My Downloads"
[19:08] <mkarnicki> works fine now.
[19:08] <mkarnicki> something must have been wrong with my i-net connection
[19:11] <Niq_> Hello.
[19:12] <Niq_> I keep getting (There was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and then try again, or return to the music store.) Can someone help?
[19:13] <Niq_> Anyone?
[19:14] <dnielsen> mattgriffin, still here?
[19:15] <mattgriffin> dnielsen: about to grab some lunch... what's up?
[19:15] <Niq_> Does anyone know about the Music store issue of being unable to view the "My Downloads" error?
[19:15] <dnielsen> I think Niq_ has similar issues to mine, if you could spare him a moment I am sure he would be grateful
[19:16] <Niq_> Thanks dnielnsen
[19:17] <mattgriffin> Niq_: howdy. check to see if the songs have downloaded to your cloud storage at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/
[19:17] <mattgriffin> Niq_: are you using Banshee or Rbox?
[19:17] <Niq_> Yes they're there I checked a few hours ago, It only fails to show in both Banshee and Rythme
[19:18] <dnielsen> Niq_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee-community-extensions/+bug/604699
[19:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 604699 in banshee-community-extensions (Ubuntu) "Music purchased from the Ubuntu One Music Store does not appear in music library (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New]
[19:18] <mattgriffin> Niq_: can you browse to ~/.ubuntuone/ on your computer and see if the purchased songs have synchronized down to your desktop?
[19:19] <Niq_> ok one sec let me see
[19:19] <mattgriffin> Niq_: the bug above may explain why the songs are not appearing in Banshee
[19:20] <Niq_> Ok I'll read that bug report. I can see the songs in the UbuntuOne folder
[19:20] <Niq_> mattgriffin: I've never done or read any bug reports so this will be a learning experience
[19:21] <mattgriffin> Niq_: heh :) and it's only Monday!
[19:21] <dnielsen> Niq_, then mark the bug as affecting you to, if you want updates on the progress subscribe to the bug
[19:22] <Niq_> Umm... ok..I'm going to figure out how to do that. Errr one sec. Thanks so far
[19:23] <dnielsen> Niq_, top right corner, login (use your ubuntu one account data here, it is the same.. as I recall) then it is just in front of you
[19:27] <Niq_> dnielsen:Ah I see I just reset my password then for no reason. Oh boy this is going to be interesting
[19:28] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Ok I'm sorry I'm sure this sounds silly but I am clicking the "subscribe" link on the upper right corner?
[19:29] <dnielsen> Niq_, welcome to the wonderful world of open source contribution. Once you subscribe you are officially part of the club
[19:29] <mattgriffin> Niq_: yeah. then you'll be automatically informed by email whenever anything new is added or changed on this bug
[19:30] <Niq_> dnielsen: ok I have subscribed. Its strange It was working a few day ago and now POOF
[19:30] <dnielsen> Niq_, Lauchpad giveth, and launchpad taketh away
[19:30] <mattgriffin> Niq_: do your purchased songs show up in Rhythmbox?
[19:31] <Niq_> dnielsen: Ha I suppose. My Linux experience has been self sufficient until now. Been able to find fixes through other people's post except this one. No all it give is "There was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and then try again, or return to the music store."
[19:33] <Niq_> mattgriffin: I wonder if its because I reported an accidental purchase through 7digital a few days back : /
[19:35] <mattgriffin> Niq_: i doubt it. downloads from 7digital to your ubuntu one cloud are fairly immediate ... and they currently can't be retracted or taken back by 7digital for the scenario you describe.
[19:36] <Niq_> Hmm. Curiouser and curiouser. Know if this issue has been resolved for anyone else?
[19:36] <mattgriffin> Niq_: i don't have an understanding if your purchased songs have been added to your rhythmbox library. can you check?
[19:38] <mattgriffin> Niq_: i reported the banshee bug a few hours ago. it will take either a few days or weeks for the banshee team to fix (since they own that extension). it's up to them to prioritize with their other work.
[19:38] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Yes they are in the library but I on my other computer where I just freshly installed Mint, I cant get those purchased songs
[19:39] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Sorry I meant to say that on one computer the songs are there but not on my new system
[19:42] <mattgriffin> Niq_: automatically downloading purchases from the Ubuntu One Music Store from the cloud to your desktop requires Ubuntu One file sync to function. i don't think it works in Mint... or we haven't developed it explicitly to work with Mint
[19:44] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Really? It was working for me and then a few days ago it stopped.
[19:44] <mattgriffin> Niq_: hmm... i'm stumped (happens often)
[19:47] <mattgriffin> Niq_: does general file sync work on your Mint system? like try making a new text file on your Ubuntu system in the ~/Ubuntu One/ folder, check the website to ensure that it synchronizes to the cloud, and then check your Mint system.
[19:48] <Niq_> mattgriffin: I'll give it a whirl
[19:53] <Niq_> mattgriffin: yup it properly synced to the cloud
[19:54] <Niq_> mattgriffin: I also restarted the ubuntuone in the interface but the My Downloads section in RB & Banshee still doesn't work.
[19:54] <mattgriffin> Niq_: on Mint, right?
[19:54] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Yes on Mint
[19:55] <mattgriffin> Niq_: did the file synchronize down from the cloud to the Mint machine?
[19:56] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Yup. I'm looking at the txt file now. I believe that the ability to sync is new. It didn't have it when Mint 9 first came out. Main reason why I stuck to Ubuntu.
[19:58] <mattgriffin> Niq_: does Rhythmbox on your Ubuntu machine show correct information/status on the My Downloads page for purchased music?
[19:59] <Niq_> mattgriffin: No. My Downloads in Banshee & Rythmbox isn't working in all 3 of my machines. 2 of which is mint and 1 Ubuntu.
[20:05]  * mattgriffin is doing some testing
[20:08] <mattgriffin> Niq_: hmm... got download complete when i just did a purchase from the music store in Rhythmbox
[20:09] <mattgriffin> Niq_: and the song shows up in my Rhythmbox library
[20:10] <Niq_> mattgriffin: Is your purchase showing up in the cloud?
[20:10] <mattgriffin> Niq_: yes
[20:11] <mattgriffin> Niq_: purchases are first transferred from 7digital to the cloud ... and then downloaded to all of your computers.
[20:13] <mattgriffin> Niq_: i'm going to open a bug on this... what you're experiencing is as follows... you are running Ubuntu (which version?). when you make a purchase, the song is downloaded to your cloud and your computer but is not appearing in the Rhythmbox (or Banshee) library. the My Downloads page indicates that there is a transfer in progress. ... is this correct?
[20:16] <Niq_> mattgriffin: have Mint 9 & Ubuntu 10.04. The song are in .ubuntuone/ Purchased from Ubuntu One Music Store. However they do not sync with Banshee or RB on any of my systems.
[20:17] <mattgriffin> ok
[20:20] <Niq_> mattgriffin: I would say the problem may be with UbuntuOne directly and not so much Banshee or RB. I found this thread on Ubuntu forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476464. I'm the last comment on page 2
[20:20]  * mattgriffin reads
[20:34] <dobey> Niq_: are the files actually there, or are they empty? (just wondering)
[20:37] <Niq_> dobey: They are there
[20:40] <dobey> Niq_: so you can open and play them with totem for example?
[20:42] <Niq_> yup they can be played. They just aren't accessible through the UbuntuOne music store extension in Banshee or RB
[20:42] <dobey> Niq_: if you click on "Music" in rb and search for one, does it show up?
[20:45] <Niq_> dobey: Unfortunately no. On my old system the songs were already moved to the library. But I also have a brand new system and since I cant access the cloud anymore, it wont sync to the library.
[20:46] <dobey> Niq_: are you running maverick, or are all these systems of yours on lucid? or are they a mix?
[20:47] <Niq_> One system is Lucid and 2 are Mint 9. (Yes Mint 9 is sync-able with UbuntuOne, or at least no it is.)
[20:48] <Niq_> dobey: One system is Lucid and 2 are Mint 9. (Yes Mint 9 is sync-able with UbuntuOne, or at least no it is.)
[20:49] <dobey> what version of ubuntu is mint 9 based on?
[20:49] <Niq_> dobey: Lucid.
[20:49] <dobey> hmm
[20:50] <dobey> Niq_: in RB's preferences, in the Music tab, is "[] Watch my library for new files" checked?
[20:58] <mattgriffin> Niq_: FYI... bug 604767 notes the general issue with purchased songs not appearing the application's library
[20:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 604767 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store "Purchased songs are not added to Banshee and Rhythmbox library (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604767
[21:02] <Niq_> dobey: Yes. Still doesn't sync with UbuntuOne though
[21:03] <dobey> Niq_: if the files are on your local machine, it has synced with Ubuntu One. if the files are downloaded, and not appearing in the library, it is a different issue
[21:03] <dobey> Niq_: has there been a kernel update recently?
[21:05] <Niq_> dobey: Not sure if there has been but I update my systems everyday. The files are in the cloud however they just aren't accessible through the music players via their music store extensions.
[21:07] <dobey> Niq_: ok, the songs aren't played through the music store interface. they are supposed to be integrated into the player's library when they are downloaded.
[21:09] <mattgriffin> Niq_: the music player applications should be watching specific folders on your computer. whenever new files are added to your computer (like downloaded from Ubuntu One), the applications should update their library lists or artists and albums.
[21:10] <dobey> Niq_: could you try to copy one of the new song files over to your normal library location from the ".ubuntuone/Purchased..." folder, and see if it shows up under "Music" in RB?
[21:10] <Niq_> dobey: Ok give me one sec
[21:11] <dobey> mattgriffin: i think the plug-in for Banshee actually does that bit, and has to inject the file to the library, but in RB it should just work. but the issues are sounding like it might be an issue with inotify
[21:11] <mattgriffin> :(
[21:12] <dobey> mattgriffin: which also makes me wonder what filesystem all the users having problems with this, are using :)
[21:14] <Niq_> dobey: Yes the file was able to be "injected"
[21:14] <dobey> hmm
[21:15] <Niq_> dobey: Its a good short term solution but I would have to download each file from the cloud and then transfer to Banshee/RB
[21:16] <dobey> Niq_: what does "gconftool-2 -g /apps/rhythmbox/library_locations" spit out for you?
[21:16] <dobey> Niq_: why would you have to download them again if they're already on your system, as you said they are?
[21:17] <Niq_> dobey: I did it again just to see if they could be extracted but yes they are already there to begin with. I made a duplicate.
[21:18] <Niq_> dobey: gconftool-2 -g /apps/rhythmbox/library_locations [file:///home/nick/Music,file:///home/nick/.local/share/ubuntuone/Purchased%20from%20Ubuntu%20One]
[21:18] <dobey> ok, hrmm
[21:26] <Niq_> dobey: Something tells me this probably won't be fixable through my end huh?
[21:29] <dobey> Niq_: not sure. i can't really tell what's going wrong, from the info so far :(
[21:31] <Niq_> dobey: Since this is the case on all 3 of my systems ( one Ubuntu 10.04 & two Mint 9) would it be perhaps an issue with Ubuntu One/Music store itself?
[21:32] <dobey> could be
[21:39] <dobey> Niq_: do you have a "~/.local/share/ubuntuone/Purchased from Ubuntu One" folder?
[21:41] <pak33m> hey all :)
[21:42] <pak33m> anybody know if theres a way to manually update the purchased music from the ubuntone music store?
[21:42] <dobey> heh
[21:43] <pak33m> i did a preorder and the download is available as of today. ive got the album on other machines except for the one im on now. that totals 3 machines.
[21:44] <pak33m> the machine im on now wont update purchased music.
[21:44] <rye> pak33m, what is the status in ubuntuone preferences dialog?
[21:46] <dobey> oh, that is at least a different issue
[21:46] <pak33m> rye: it says disconnected. however, i see a total used, my account info, etc.
[21:48] <pak33m> rye: and this machine is one of the devices listed.
[21:48] <dobey> i should have taken the libert of making that say 'offline' instead
[21:48] <dobey> dobey: click the "connect" button under the devices tab
[21:48] <dobey> err
[21:48] <dobey> now i'm talking to myself
[21:49] <dobey> pak33m: click the connect button under the devices tab :)
[21:49] <pak33m> hehe
[21:50] <pak33m> dobey: there is no connect button under devices but there is a restart button under the machine im connected on.
[21:50] <pak33m> dobey: and i havent clicked on it yet :)
[21:50] <dobey> pak33m: there should be two buttons, one for connect/disconnect, and one for restart. i guess perhaps clicking restart might be a viable option now though :)
[21:51] <pak33m> dobey: oh wait the connect button is grayed out like its been selected
[21:51] <pak33m> dobey: aha, the restart button is doing something...syncronizing
[21:51] <pak33m> dobey: now back to disconnected
[21:53] <Niq_> dobey: sorry I stepped away for a sec. Yes I do have that file
[21:53] <dobey> Niq_: are your music files in that folder?
[21:53] <Niq_> dobey: the ones I purchased yes.
[21:54] <dobey> pak33m: ah, looks like it is having a problem connecting to the server them. i wonder what the logs say (~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log)
[21:54] <dobey> Niq_: weird. it should show up in the rbox library then
[21:55] <pak33m> dobey: jusrt about to ask where that log is :)
[21:56] <pak33m> dobey: 2010-07-12 16:47:41,611 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - ERROR - The request 'oauth_authenticate' failed with the error:
[21:56] <pak33m> AUTHENTICATION_FAILED
[21:57] <dobey> pak33m: did you happen to remove the oauth token for the machine you're currently on, via the web or preferences dialog on another machine?
[21:57] <pak33m> dobey: how would i do that?
[21:59] <pak33m> dobey: i havent touched any settings for as long as i can remember
[22:00] <dobey> i'm not asking you to do it, i'm asking if you have done it already :)
[22:00] <Niq_> dobey:  ok just check and the songs ARE in the RB library but not in Banshee
[22:01] <dobey> ok
[22:01] <pak33m> dobey: hehe, i understand i was just answering in the form of a question because i wouldnt know where to go to do that
[22:01] <pak33m> dobey:  should i remove the device and try authenticating again?
[22:01] <dobey> so banshee works a little bit differently
[22:01] <dobey> not sure why it would be having the issue though
[22:02] <dobey> pak33m: no, it probably won't help
[22:02] <Niq_> dobey:  but just for the record, still nothing is happening in the "My Downloads" section either
[22:04] <dobey> Niq_: that very well could be a server issue. not sure
[22:05] <dobey> Niq_: but afaict, that just seems to be a display issue with that page, and you are still getting your music downloaded, no?
[22:06] <Niq_> I won't know 100% until I purchase another song I guess but I do have access via RB to all the music I already purchased
[22:09] <dobey> i guess you could try one of the free songs on there, to test it
[22:10] <Niq_> dobey: Ok I figured out a rough fix around.
[22:10] <dobey> for banshee?
[22:12] <Niq_> dobey: In banshee go to Media > Import Media > Local Folders Choose > "your user name" >.local> shared > ubuntu on. Highlight that folder and click "Import" Make sure that you have enabled view hidden files
[22:14] <Niq_> SOLVED!!! Sort of...
[22:15] <dobey> yeah that will get stuff imported, but i was trying to understand what the problem was exactly :)
[22:15] <dobey> of course, i thought it was broken in rb too, but if it's just banshee, i'm a little less worried about it :)
[22:17] <Niq_> dobey: I didn't realize that in RB it fetches the files automatically from that folder but in banshee it requires doing it manually. Except that when the My Downloads link thingy work it IS automatic
[22:18] <dobey> Niq_: ah. that might be an issue in the way the banshee plug-in does the library injection then.
[22:19] <dobey> Niq_: which would make it a bug in the plug-in (outside the issue with the downloads page, which might be a server side anomoly)
[22:20] <Niq_> dobey: Always something to learn in Linux I tell ya. At least the data is retrievable but I doubt anyone remotely new would have figured that one out. If I didn't already see it in RB I would never have thought to check.
[22:21] <dobey> Niq_: yeah. the banshee plug-in is a community project though, as rbox is the default player on ubuntu. i suppose banshee is the default on mint or something?
[22:22] <Niq_> dobey: Thank you for your help. I have to go to class but I will most likely post my finding on the Ubuntu forum when I get back and hopefully that helps some people. However that My Downloads error really needs to get resolved.
[22:23] <dobey> yeah, we're working on it :)
[22:23] <Niq_> dobey: Umm I don't think it is but I'm not sure. I DL a whole mess of programs upon installing it.
[22:24] <Niq_> dobey: Thanks again for your time and patience
[22:24] <dobey> no problem, i'm glad it's mostly working for you again, aside from the downloads page issue :)
[22:40] <dobey> later all :)
[23:38] <popey> hullo!
[23:39] <popey> is it a 'known complaint' that every nautilus window has an "Ubuntu One disabled" with an [Enable] button in it? This seems a pretty silly thing to have given there is no way to revert it easily once you press it.
[23:39] <popey> and pressing it when you're in a folder like, oh, say /home/alan/Dropbox is a monumentally stupid thing to do, and something you can't easily undo!
[23:40] <popey> aha, bug 598638 seems to cover it
[23:40]  * popey takes his rant there
[23:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 598638 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "'enable' message presented in nautilus is confusing (affects: 4) (heat: 22)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598638


[00:08] <digitalw00t> When I connect to a vpn, my local dns settings are being ignored.  It's only hitting the dns on the other side of the vpn tunnel, and I really want it to hit my dns first locally as well as the remote dns if the local one doesn't have an entry on file for the lookup.
[00:11] <digitalw00t> Anyone familiar with the vpn client in kubuntu?
[00:20] <Unit193> That most likely happens so you don't leak your IP via DNS.
[00:22] <digitalw00t> Unit193: I added my local dns to the list of dns to add, but it doesn't seem to even query it.
[02:03] <carol> ho
[02:03] <carol> in a newbie
[02:05] <carol> little frendly help is good?
 @carol, Here's some help.  As a new user of Linux, you're probably wondering what software to use for various tasks, as Linux only has some of the more common software.  Firefox or Chrome might be obvious for web browsing, etc, but no Photoshop for example, so what to use to edit images?  This site will help: https://alternativeto.net/  Type in the name of a software you know and get back a list of viable alternatives for various
 Help #2: Get comfortable with the Linux package manager/Software center.  Software on Linux is generally installed from a central repository, rather than wandering the web aimlessly seeking random (potentially risky) installers.
 Help #3: If you're into gaming, you prolly wanna install Steam, Lutris, Itch.io, and PlayOnLinux early on.  Those should open up a mess of gaming possibilities beyond the native games you find readily available in the software center.
 @blooalien, Yes!
 Itch.io is a awesome place
 @darltrash, Indeed.  I've found tons of great little gems there.  :)
 Fun fact: If you sell your game in itch, it is very posible your first buyer is the creator of the page himself
 No joke, he relates to a personal level every game in his platform
 @darltrash, Nice.  I'ma big fan of Itch longtime now.
 The guy who made it is a genius, he is veeery funny
 He made his own coding language and his own website framework, everything open source
 And unlike GOG, Itch has a native Linux desktop client.
 @blooalien, Yes, a electron one, is pretty good even being electron
 @darltrash, Actually, one of the better Electron apps I've used.  I normally hate Electron apps, but Itch is really well put together overall.
 @blooalien, Yes
 Is remarkably good
 Like vscode, is also incredible
 @darltrash, Not normally a fan of Microsoft products that much either, but ya, vscode was actually a totally tolerable coding editor.  (I've since gone back to just plain ol' Kate, but that's just me.)
 hi guys. new to linux here. i want to dual boot w10 and kubuntu. do i have to disable bitlocker to do this?
 bc last night I tried installing vanilla ubuntu with secure boot and bitlocker on and it was asking me for my recovery key every time I booted into windows
 obviously this is a hassle so I was wondering if I have to completely disable bitlocker to avoid it from bugging me with a recovery key every time I boot into windows or is there some other way for me to do it without turning off bitlocker? thanks in advance
[04:15] <valorie> well, this is #kubuntu
[04:15] <valorie> we don't use bitlocker afaik
[04:15] <valorie> at least I have never heard of it
[04:15] <valorie> maybe ask in #ubuntu ?
 I asked here because I'm going to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu
 Fwd from dryllmedaddy: hi guys. new to linux here. i want to dual boot w10 and kubuntu. do i have to disable bitlocker to do this?
 i just want to know
 do i turn off either sb or bitlocker before installation?
 @valorie, I think it's a Windows disk encryption thing.
 @blooalien, Vscode is incredible, is truly a power move from microsoft, the only microsoft product i use and love.
 @darltrash, I'ma Python guy, so truth be told, I don't need much more'n a good syntax highlighting editor and Python itself.  ;)
 (Occasional HTML/CSS/Javascript here and there, too, but again, Kate generally does the job just fine.)  😜
 I use vscode for everything
 Lua, python, js, html, css, everything
 Except godot, godot's editor is good enough
 @darltrash, I honestly might, if I wasn't already so pleased with Kate's performance of it's duties for my needs.  :)
 @blooalien, True
 I do prefer vscode over all the other similar things I've tried in the past tho.  Seems a lot more lightweight and responsive compared against similar code editors I've tried before.
 I do also like how customizable/extensible vscode is.  Can't ever go too far wrong givin' the end-user the ability to adapt their tools to their workflow and needs...  ;)
 @blooalien, True
 That's why i love it
 @darltrash, I could see that.  Always been a fan of customizable software.  It's one of the main things that keeps me on Linux/KDE.  :)
 @blooalien, Me too! I love linux because it can be SO MODDABLE
 It can be pure minimalism or absolute hacking-movies inspired
 I totally love that I've been able to totally customize every little detail of my desktop/system to best support MY personal workflow pretty much exactly as I need it to.  :)
 Always had to fight my Windows installations to get anywhere even remotely close to anything custom.
 Yes
 @dryllmedaddy, If you want to access the files inside the bitlocker partition from linux, you would have to disable it. Disabling secure boot might be needed to boot kubuntu
[09:16] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm getting these messages in syslog https://pastebin.com/LL4GPfj3 ...any idea how to fix this?
 @blooalien, Yup
 Gnome restricts you and creates a limit what you can and you can't.... But in kde do what ever you want.. even change window manager.... Where you can't run Gnome without mutter ..
 What is good dock for kde ?? Plank or late dock anyone tried?
 Hi guys! Can anyone recommend a pdf editor that allows for text fields and check boxes? I need to fill out a form and okulus is not up to the task.
 @Terminator_99, I recommend latte dock!
 If you are on Kubuntu 19:04 or newer.
[09:56] <Mrokii> @Terminator_99: I've been using Latte Dock for ages and I think it's great. I'd recommend it wholeheartedly.
 @Linuxophil, Okay thanks.. I'm on 20.04 beta
 @Mrokii, Mrokii :Thanks 😊
 @Linuxophil, Will you prefer Online website based editor ?
[09:58] <Mrokii> Linuxphil: Okular lets you enter text in input fields, and also use checkboxes.
 @Terminator_99, No. Local please.
 @Linuxophil, Libreoffice draw  … Okular … Qoppa PDF Studio
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 @Terminator_99, Thanks a lot! I tried the first two, will try the second two now.
 @Linuxophil, Okay .. personally I haven't tried editing pdf with any of those ... I found this recommendation on https://alternativeto.net/ and other Foss website.. so try if it's useful
[10:15] <Mrokii> @Terminator_99: yw. :-)
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
 How to mount a disk automatically on every boot in Kubuntu?
 In Gnome I used gnome-disk-utility that doesn't work in kde
[11:09] <BluesKaj> @Terminator_99, does dolphin see the disk in devices?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> if not, do sudo blkid and copy the UUID entry to /etc/fstab
 @BluesKaj, BluesKaj : yes it does show up in the Dolphin .. I want that to auto mounted
[11:30] <BluesKaj> have you ever edited /etc/fstab ?
 @BluesKaj, Nope
[11:33] <BluesKaj> putting an entry in /etc/fstab is the simplest method to assure disk mounting at boot, like I mentioned above about the UUID
[11:52] <BluesKaj> @Terminator_99, this tutorial will explain and help https://askubuntu.com/questions/303497/adding-an-entry-to-fstab
 @BluesKaj, Done .. ✌ thanks
[11:59] <BluesKaj> 'welcome
[16:31] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm unable to connecto to my bluetooth headset. it's supported, right?
[16:50] <digitalw00t> I've had kubuntu completely lock up twice now, and I'm not sure what's causing it.  The entire desktop freezes, but I can ping the host.
[16:51] <digitalw00t> I can't ssh though, it establishes a connection, but won't go past connection established.
[16:52] <digitalw00t> Where can I get support for kubuntu?  Is there anything I need to do gather debugging information to help with this?
 @digitalw00t, Which version of Kubuntu?
[17:15] <digitalw00t> Kubuntu 19.10
[17:15] <digitalw00t> Installed maybe a week or two ago.
[17:15] <digitalw00t> So far.. loving it.
 I don't recall any lockup issues with 19.10, but you could try the backports PPA. Or just wait until Thurday and upgrade to 20.04.
[17:34] <digitalw00t> What are the backport PPA for?
[17:34] <digitalw00t> I think it might have something to do with VMware workstation, but I haven't been able to be definately sure that's the issue yet.  I mean.. I've only been running it for a week or two.
[17:35] <digitalw00t> But everytime it's frozen I've been doing things in a VM.
[17:56] <sebastien76> bonsoir
[17:57] <sebastien76> des petit conseil pour débuter sereinement sur unbuntu ?
[19:12] <Guest83801> Good evening! I've got a problem with my new Kubuntu 20.04 beta installation on my Thinkpad L380. Whenever I restart my system with the USB-C power cable attached, the machine "starts" aka the buttons light up and the fan spins, but the system doesn't proceed with the booting process and the display remains disabled. As soon as I remove the power cable, the machine activates the display and the system boots up
[19:12] <Guest83801> normally. Any idea what could be wrong? I never had this phenomenom with my previous Win10 installation.
[19:16] <user|27104> Hi everyone
[19:17] <digitalw00t> Anyone know how I can get my Elgato HD60 and capture software to work under Kubuntu 19.10?
[19:18] <user|27104> I'm able to boot from Kubuntu ISO in uefi mode. It keep giving me following error
[19:18] <user|27104> Failed to set MokListRT: Out of Resources
[19:20] <user|27104> KDE NEON iso image works in uefi mode but not kubuntu - any suggestions please
 hi there
 is there an AppImage for Calligra suite(stage for example)
 I tried to use deb2appimage with no success
 is there way to find tree of depencies


[04:59] <Eickmeyer> LocutusOfBorg: falktx doesn't really need i386 anymore, that post is old.
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