[01:03] <TheBuntu> does ppa have kde sc 4.7 yet
[01:13] <TheBuntu> where can i find kde 4.7 ppa repo ?
[01:15] <genii-around> TheBuntu: It doesn't exist yet
[01:15] <TheBuntu> ok
[01:18] <TheBuntu> genii-around: what dont exist yet... ppa having it
[01:18] <genii-around> TheBuntu: Yes.
[01:20] <TheBuntu> ok..was just woundering sence kde ...Wednesday, May 25, 2011: KDE 4.7 Beta 1 Release
[10:36] <n4cht> ahoihoi.  is alpha1 stable-ish?   i'm considering doing an upgrade to it to check it out, but i'm going to wait for beta if it's so broken that it's hardly usable.  (i know alpha releases are typically a use-at-your-own-risk, could all fall apart, minefield of nasty sometimes, but other alpha releases in the past have been pretty usable for day-to-day usage.)
[10:37] <arand> Not stable no, you'd wait for final release for that.
[10:38] <arand> ubuntu dev versions tend to fall in the former class..
[10:39] <elros> "it works for me"
[10:42] <n4cht> i don't mean stable as in 'final release' stable.  i mean stable as in 'installer will actually *install* it, then it boots into a usable DE, and works for the most part without random crashes, etc'.
[10:42] <n4cht> or, as elros said "works for me".
[10:42] <arand> *with random crashes and breakage.
[10:57] <n4cht> arand: that's what i was afraid of.   i think i'll just wait for either beta or final release.
[11:07] <Ian_Corne> am i correct when I say that NM breaks ubuntu one atm?
[11:07] <Ian_Corne> n4cht: it's the most alpha feeling alpha i've ever worked with
[11:07] <Ian_Corne> if that helps you :)
[11:08] <Ian_Corne> stuff is just missing
[11:09] <n4cht> Ian_Corne: that was actually very helpful.   in that case, to get my gnome-shell fix without giving up ubuntu, i'll just compile from git in my home dir so it doesn't break unity.
[11:10] <Ian_Corne> I've not even tried gnome-shell
[11:10] <Ian_Corne> But from what i read here, gnome3 stuff isn't that stable either
[11:30] <n4cht> oh.  you know what?  i just remembered seeing a virtual machine specifically for testing new ubuntu releases when i was doing a search for vbox with apt.   maybe i'll use that and test oneiric that way?
[11:35]  * n4cht is installing testdrive.
[16:36] <charlie-tca> How to add users in Oneiric? Users and Groups seems to be broken?
[16:42] <Ian_Corne> charlie-tca: adduser from commandline?
[16:43] <charlie-tca> Ian_Corne: thanks, it does seem to be the only way
[20:09] <Volkodav> the worst alpha ever
[20:10] <Pici> Not enough things breaking?
[20:10] <Volkodav> unity+gnome3 = crazy non working WM
[20:14] <charlie-tca> and mine was actually working, just installed this weekend. but... it is Xubuntu Oneiric
[20:14] <elros> can't go wrong with lubuntu
[20:15] <Volkodav> I'll reinstall xubuntu
[20:16] <charlie-tca> minor quirks, of course, like email and news start offline now
[21:19] <cwillu> !info inkscape #lucid
[21:19] <cwillu> !info inkscape lucid
[21:19] <cwillu> !info inkscape hardy
[21:19] <Pici> cwillu: rmadison is handy for doing those sort of comparisons.
[21:20]  * cwillu googles
[21:20] <cwillu> something I have to _install_ first?
[21:20]  * cwillu scoffs
[21:20] <Pici> cwillu: Its in the devscripts package.
[21:21] <cwillu> somebody was just looking for a livecd with inkscape .45, which I wasn't sure existed
[21:21] <Pici> cwillu: rmadison is just a cli interface to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi anyway, so you could use that
[22:32] <BUGabundo> good evening folks
[22:33] <Ian_Corne> hei
[22:33] <Ian_Corne> i had to reinstall natty today BUGabundo  :p
[22:33] <BUGabundo> ahahahah
[22:34] <BUGabundo> natty??
[22:34] <BUGabundo> that's old
[22:34] <Ian_Corne> had no GUI anymore in 11.10
[22:34] <BUGabundo> gnome is a mess in 11.10
[22:34] <Ian_Corne> and i needed my laptop :D
[22:34] <BUGabundo> sure it does
[22:34] <BUGabundo> just a very BAD one
[22:34] <Ian_Corne> nono, it didn't work anymore
[22:34] <Ian_Corne> not at all :D
[22:34] <BUGabundo> sure does
[22:34] <BUGabundo> gnome-do is rocking here
[22:34] <charlie-tca> oops
[22:34] <BUGabundo> but no updates coming
[22:35] <BUGabundo> very strange
[22:35] <BUGabundo> NM is broken
[22:35] <charlie-tca> I even managed to get VBox working again, and it only took three days!
[22:35] <Ian_Corne> :D
[22:35] <BUGabundo> need to file that , once I figure what's causing it not to work
[22:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: I had to reinstall do to gnome3 and NM
[22:35] <charlie-tca> My updates on xubuntu today pulled nautilus in
[22:35] <BUGabundo> :(
[22:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: ahahahahaaha
[22:35] <Ian_Corne> Maybe it's more productive going to the nm channel?
[22:35] <BUGabundo> autch
[22:35] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: you did a reinstall?
[22:35] <BUGabundo> my bright is going it self to MAX
[22:36] <charlie-tca> I didn't know that was even possible ;-)
[22:36] <BUGabundo> going blind here
[22:36] <BUGabundo> wow I lower it and it increases it again
[22:36] <BUGabundo> :/
[22:36] <charlie-tca> uh-oh
[22:36] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: yah, so I got ext4 again
[22:36] <BUGabundo> woot
[22:36] <charlie-tca> sounds like power manager did something wrong?
[22:36] <BUGabundo> well, clean install
[22:36] <BUGabundo> PM has been wanking for weeks
[22:36] <Ian_Corne> is there still a power manager in 11.10?
[22:36] <charlie-tca> w00t! clean install at that?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> Ian_Corne: what about doing a dual boot with 11.04/11.10?
[22:37] <BUGabundo> apt-cache policy gnome-power-manager
[22:37] <BUGabundo> gnome-power-manager:
[22:37] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.0.2-0ubuntu1
[22:37] <charlie-tca> Oh, yeah, I do that, but managed to screw my 11.04 install up bad today
[22:37] <Ian_Corne> charlie-tca: unity already doesn't work anymore in 11.04 because of the setting i have in my homedir
[22:37] <Ian_Corne> from 11.10
[22:38] <Ian_Corne> so no real use I guess
[22:38] <BUGabundo> meh
[22:38] <charlie-tca> yeah, I believe that. Got to separate everything these days
[22:38] <BUGabundo> glad i have my tablet now
[22:38] <Ian_Corne> running ubuntu classic atm
[22:38] <BUGabundo> it saved my weekend
[22:38] <BUGabundo> I need to start kmail
[22:38] <Ian_Corne> a tablet wouldn't be able to run eclipse, which i need :D
[22:38] <BUGabundo> but I'm afraid it will eat all my email
[22:39] <BUGabundo> Ian_Corne: if you *need* something, then you shouldn't be running +1 :)
[22:39] <BUGabundo> 'cause the only thing I *need* on this laptop
[22:39] <BUGabundo> is ff, chromium and pidgin
[22:39] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo: i know
[22:39] <BUGabundo> and one of those is having problems with NM
[22:39] <Ian_Corne> except i've been doing it for a long time :D
[22:39] <BUGabundo> Ian_Corne: I know you know :D
[22:39] <Ian_Corne> but I can always reinstall in 30 mins
[22:39] <Ian_Corne> like I did just now
[22:40]  * charlie-tca thinks we all know, and advise others not to do what we do.
[22:40] <BUGabundo> and then not be able to use your /home
[22:40] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: still we keep doing it and blaming something
[22:40] <charlie-tca> seems so
[22:40] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: isn't that why we do testing?
[22:40] <BUGabundo> we are just masoquist
[22:40] <BUGabundo> no
[22:40] <BUGabundo> we should test stuff ready to work
[22:41] <BUGabundo> we are 4 months away that being useful
[22:41] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:41] <charlie-tca> but that is not near as much fun
[22:41] <BUGabundo> yeah
[22:41] <BUGabundo> after alpha4 its lame
[22:41] <maco> please don't say that
[22:41] <BUGabundo> but before alpha 3 its really not usefull
[22:41] <maco> there are enough people refusing to test before beta
[22:41] <BUGabundo> maco: we are joking :)
[22:41] <BUGabundo> light up
[22:41] <charlie-tca> If you start testing accessibility after alpha3, it stays fun!
[22:41] <maco> by the time beta comes around, there's no time to fix!
[22:41] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo: I always have all my stuff saved somewhere :)
[22:41] <BUGabundo> I ALWAYS ask ppl to test a daily iso every so often
[22:42] <BUGabundo> to make sure their apps/hw works for them
[22:42] <BUGabundo> Ian_Corne: _cloud_
[22:42] <maco> ok...just afraid someone's gonna see and go "see? even THEY say we shouldnt test!"
[22:42] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[22:42] <BUGabundo> maco: this ISN'T testing
[22:42] <BUGabundo> this is masoquism right now
[22:42] <BUGabundo> no one minimaly sane would run what we have
[22:43] <charlie-tca> lol
[22:43] <BUGabundo> and I run this in bare metal with no replace hw
[22:43] <BUGabundo> glad I got the tablet
[22:43] <charlie-tca> oh, now that is just plain trouble
[22:43] <BUGabundo> *if* I would file bugs for ALL that is currently broken
[22:43] <BUGabundo> LP would crawl down
[22:43] <charlie-tca> At least I got spares here. video cards, HD, cables, etc. Everything but the motherboard ;-)
[22:44] <BUGabundo> but half is not yet ported
[22:44] <BUGabundo> half is not yet merged
[22:44] <BUGabundo> and some weird half was forgotten somewhere
[22:45] <BUGabundo> but sometimes, I get really really tired of the breakage
[22:50] <charlie-tca> +1
[22:50] <BUGabundo> DAMN YOU POWER MANAGER
[22:50] <BUGabundo> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[22:51] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[22:51] <BUGabundo> can I send my optoptrician bill to canonical?
[23:04] <BUGabundo> anyone else having failed to use first key presses?


[00:22] <bkerensa> jbicha: and Unity Shopping Lens bug deleted 1054776
[00:25] <jbicha> bkerensa: what happened?
[00:26] <bkerensa> jbicha: someone at Canonical deleted the shopping lens bug that has over 200+ affected
[00:26] <bkerensa> idk
[00:26] <bkerensa> instead of marking it wont fix or opinion
[00:26] <bkerensa> Transparency for the win :)
[00:28] <jbicha> it was marked private, I asked in #launchpad and it's getting changed back to Public
[00:31] <bkerensa> jbicha: lol oh ok :)
[00:31] <bkerensa> jbicha: why was it hidden though? :P
[00:31] <jbicha> that's how private bugs work
[00:31] <jbicha> I didn't see it either as I don't have upload rights to that package or something
[00:33] <bkerensa> jbicha: I thought the only reason a bug should be marked private is if it contains private information that is sensitive to a user
[00:34] <tsimpson> or any security issue
[00:34] <bkerensa> ;)
[00:35] <jbicha> nah, anyone can mark bugs private, it's probably a pretty bad flaw
[00:37] <j1mc> as the issue involved sending data in the clear to canonical, they might be discussing some internal technical matters on the bug that require it to be private for security reasons for now. i would hope that they'll re-open it somehow, or bring up how they're going to resolve it in some other way.
[00:38] <bkerensa> jbicha: that bug I mentioned that is private was not about any security issues it was more of a rant bug someone started about the ads
[00:38] <knome> hey j1mc :)
[00:38] <knome> yeah, we can always hope so...
[00:38] <bkerensa> there are however a few security bugs open none of which went private
[00:38] <jbicha> bkerensa: it's back now
[00:39] <jbicha> just some random user
[00:39] <knome> any missing comments? ;)
[00:39] <jbicha> no, it's just that you can't see private reports unless you have access to them
[00:40] <bkerensa> jbicha: lol so anyone can abuse this?
[00:40] <j1mc> hi knome  :)
[00:40] <knome> anyone able to abuse sounds great too..
[00:41] <jbicha> bkerensa: yes :(
[00:41] <jbicha> because anyone can post private info they want hidden
[00:41]  * bkerensa sets #1 to private
[00:41] <bkerensa> jk
[00:41] <j1mc> heh
[01:01] <jbicha> j1mc: anyway, how have you been?
[01:05] <jbicha> I'm procrastinating on finishing the screenshots
[01:10] <bkerensa> :D
[01:10] <j1mc> things have been all right - i refreshed our lug's website: http://chicagolug.org :)
[01:11] <j1mc> knome: ^^ bear witness to my CSS wizardy. :(
[01:11] <knome> :)
[01:11] <knome> looks good
[01:12] <j1mc> thanks, knome. it is basically my first ever website coding. i did it this weekend.
[01:12] <knome> then congrats
[01:12] <knome> it's a good starts, validates and all!
[01:14] <j1mc> cool - glad it validates. i did check it on IE8 and on my phone. works on those things, so it can't be too broken.
[01:14] <jbicha> oh wow, your SFD was like a whole conference
[01:14] <jbicha> we did like an hour and a half talk & demos
[01:14] <bkerensa> ugh
[01:15] <j1mc> jbicha: they had an intern who organized it. she did a fantastic job. it was really well organized.
[01:15] <j1mc> she's an intern for a small non-profit (freegeek chicago)
[01:17] <knome> time to go to sleep
[01:17] <knome> or, that was long time ago
[01:17] <knome> going to sleep
[01:17] <knome> see you!
[01:17] <j1mc> later, knome
[01:18] <j1mc> take care
[14:13] <jbicha> dpm: I don't know if I'll finalize ubuntu-docs screenshots today
[14:17] <jbicha> there's one more UI change, the Gwibber lens is using Twitter's icon so Design is going to replace it
[14:18] <jbicha> and I have to redesign some of the screenshots for the new launcher items that landed yesterday
[14:18] <jbicha> but strings will definitely freeze on schedule today
[14:21] <dpm> jbicha, I think that should be absolutely fine, strings are the most important part.
[14:38] <jbicha> mdke: are you around? I updated the pot yesterday in lp:ubuntu-docs but the translation status looks the same
[14:39] <jbicha> dpm: I don't think we changed the strings as much for quantal as we did for precise, the top 18 languages don't look too bad
[14:39] <jbicha> on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/quantal/ even though most haven't been touched this cycle yet
[14:40] <dpm> yeah, I was looking at that too
[14:41] <dpm> jbicha, do you think we could update help.ubuntu.com with the translations regularly until release, similar to what we did on precise?
[14:42] <jbicha> yeah, all it needs is someone to build the docs and upload them to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/help.ubuntu.com
[14:42] <jbicha> dpm: did you want to join ubuntu-core-doc?
[14:43] <jbicha> help.ubuntu.com gets updated from that branch once per day
[14:44] <dpm> jbicha, I'd do if it helps, but I'd feel I haven't participated enough in documentation to join the core committers team. I need to have a look again at how translations get built, let me come back to you in a few hours or tomorrow
[15:46] <jbicha> mdke: dpm: oh I guess the translation status doesn't change the date updated but I clearly see the new strings in the translation queue so I guess we're ok
[15:47] <jbicha> we have new pages for each lens, so I just searched for Gwibber
[15:48] <dpm> jbicha, which date are you referring to about?
[15:49] <jbicha> "Last Changed" on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/quantal/
[15:50] <jbicha> I guess it makes sense, we didn't touch the translations themselves, just the pot
[15:52] <dpm> jbicha, yes, that's correct, that's the date the last translation was touched by a translator. For the date the template was updated, you can have a look at the template's Header or Last update fields on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/quantal/+pots/ubuntu-help/+admin
[16:00] <jbicha> oh, I can't access that page
[21:33] <jbicha> docs string freeze, yay!


[00:56] <Bashing-om> nacc: Are you awake ? Are you where you can assist me on what looks like a packaging error ? IRT tcikoritys in main .
[00:56] <nacc> Bashing-om: yep, looking at it now :)
[00:57] <Bashing-om> nacc: You the man !
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:02] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[06:02] <EriC^^> how are you?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^  morning!
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> alot of work EriC^^
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you see valerian?
[06:04] <EriC^^> nope
[06:04] <EriC^^> it's good?
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> not seen myself
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> its now in theaters
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> luc besson movie
[06:09] <EriC^^> aha
[06:09] <EriC^^> did you see war for planet of apes?
[06:10] <EriC^^> waiting for it to get torrented
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> not yet
[06:10] <xangua> EriC^^: yes
[06:12] <xangua> Kind of makes a little homenaje to the very first planet of the apes
[06:12] <EriC^^> xangua: cool
[06:12] <EriC^^> cant wait
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> looks pretty neat
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/874197-the-dark-tower-teaser-shows-us-a-connected-kingdom#/slide/1
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> check this out
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZOhAW8f85c
[08:22] <lordievader> good morning
[08:23] <lordievader> It's okay.
[08:23] <lordievader> The fifth element is better.
[08:24] <lordievader> Hmm, homeserver catching up, makes interesting conversations XD
[13:11] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:53] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, how are you doing?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader, fine here thanks, and you?
[14:03] <lordievader> Doing good here, working on some vector graphics :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> vector graphics , in what context?
[14:11] <lordievader> It is for a presentation.
[14:13]  * BluesKaj nods
[14:15] <lordievader> Wanted some nice scalable images :)
[17:31] <oerheks> what is this, nicomachus, when it says 'unsupported' everybody wants it?
[17:32] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:33] <nicomachus> I used to think the latest release was the best release. Gotta be cutting edge, ya know? I've learned since then.
[17:33] <oerheks> she is trolling..
[17:36] <nicomachus> gotta be...
[17:37] <oerheks> m not allowed to run anything newer that 14.04 LTS .. but php7
[17:38] <nicomachus> I'm curious how he got mySQL 7 on 14.04 when current version for that release is like 5.x
[17:39] <nicomachus> without screwing up sources.list royally
[17:40] <oerheks> well, we wait and see the update results
[17:42] <nicomachus> can't figure out to paste the damn output... ugh. someone hired this person for a CS job?
[17:43] <oerheks> he has been tons of times before,..
[17:55] <nicomachus> got some new business cards today and they put my middle initial this time. Adds a certain fanciness to it...
[17:55] <nacc> nicomachus: super fancy :)
[17:56] <nicomachus> We got rid of all of our fax lines so they ordered new cards for EVERYONE just to drop the fax line from them.
[17:56] <nacc> lol
[17:57] <nicomachus> And they always order me like, 2000. I've never gone through 500 before they end up ordering new ones.
[17:57] <nicomachus> very financially conservative, as you can see.
[18:11] <nicomachus> did TBotNik really just say they're working on a prod/dev server?
[18:11] <oerheks> yeah, i guess so
[18:11] <nicomachus> wow.
[18:12] <nicomachus> I hope it's not a high-value one...
[18:51] <nicomachus> too many trying to help one user.... ends up asking oerheks for output of update && upgrade. lol
[18:52] <oerheks> heh
[18:52] <oerheks> yeah, psychotic-help is really great.
[18:52] <nicomachus> I love that you gave it to him anyway.
[18:53] <oerheks> oh rory, he mixed up names, happens to mee much often
[22:38] <nacc> in case others didn't see it, we did get some clarification in #ubuntu-server on hwe on server. while desktop does seem to auto-choose hwe stack if you install the latest ISOs, server does not
[22:38] <nacc> yet another differnce, and can be a major difference in experience if you install desktop vs. install server then apt install desktop
[22:39] <EriC^^> interesting stuff nacc
[22:39] <nacc> I haven't actually verified it's true myself, but one user did earlier today and I looked at the seeds and see no mention of hwe there
[22:48] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: wine32 win64 packages . new to me ! " sysop@x1604:~$ apt list wine32 >> Listing... Done " not in 16.04 .
[22:53] <nacc> Bashing-om: wine32 and wine64 exist in 17.04+
[22:58] <Bashing-om> nacc: Ho Kay - Just did not want to hazard to guess - and to lazy to check on a wild guess :(
[23:01] <daftykins> hmm i'm not so sure of that one, i always hung onto release.version.1 media so i had the initial kernel ones for future
[23:01] <nacc> Bashing-om: np :)
[23:01] <daftykins> (for desktop and server media)


[19:11] <\weakmayors> Anybody up for a game of chess...  Match A:  \join_weakmayors vs. [First person in link] | https://lichess.org/Pj9ogGFg


[15:58] <alimj> Hello. I am following these guides to get a Cloak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks
[15:58] <alimj> my launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~alimirjamali
[15:59] <alimj> And this link (http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup) is dead on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks
[15:59] <alimj> But I have a registered freenode nick
[16:00] <DJones> alimj: Has your Ubuntu membership been confirmed?
[16:00] <DJones> !membership
[16:01] <Kilos> alimj you can go to #freenode and ask staff for a cloak if you dont have ubuntu membership yet
[16:01] <alimj> I can ask one of the Iran Loco members to confirm
[16:01] <Kilos> hi DJones
[16:17] <hggdh> link to nick registration at freenode on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks corrected


[05:00] <linuxman410> Unit193 u here
[05:02] <Unit193> Yep. Spoon was going to help in there...
[05:02] <Unit193> I'm sure otter will too...
[05:03] <linuxman410> Unit193 i just went with peppermint it is good
[05:29] <Unit193> Real quick: What do you call drinks such as Pepsi, Root Beer, Mt Dew, etc.?
[05:33] <cyberanger> Unit193: soda
[05:34] <cyberanger> or, based on what just happened, messy
[05:38] <cyberanger> ¡Hola Señor linuxman410 !
[05:54] <Unit193> cyberanger: Thank you for your input :P
[05:54] <vychune> o/
[05:54] <Unit193> vychune: Howdy
[05:54] <vychune> howja lol
[05:55] <Unit193> Heh, you remembered
[05:55] <cyberanger> heya ;-)
[05:55] <vychune> o/ cyber did you buy linuxman's netbook?
[06:06] <cyberanger> vychune: nope, it sold prior to my first chance
[06:06] <vychune> oh ok
[06:16] <Ruckus777> Calling for cyberranger
[06:23] <Unit193> cyberanger: You may also want to ident...
[06:27] <Ruckus777> identify??? ..a friend
[06:27] <Ruckus777> and who or whom are you?
[06:31] <Unit193> Ruckus777: I was saying ident to nickserv (Freenode_
[06:42] <vychune> bluescreen
[06:43] <Unit193> Bluescreen?
[06:44] <Unit193> Ruckus777: Howdy and welcome to the channel (Forgot to say that part :P )
[06:49] <Ruckus777> soorry busy on other stuff oh ok
[06:49] <Ruckus777> not quite sure on all that yet but...
[06:49] <Ruckus777> how long since rangers been on?
[06:50] <Unit193> He last said something at 1:06
[06:50] <Ruckus777> oh yeah hehe i could have saw that
[06:50] <Ruckus777> lol
[06:51] <Ruckus777> sorry just in a tight spot right now
[06:51] <Ruckus777> i know him outside of cyberspace
[06:51] <Ruckus777> well somehow wake him up and get him to say something else lol
[06:53] <vychune> lol
[06:53] <Unit193> I don't know him outside ;) I'm sure nothing I can do...
[06:56] <cyberanger> Ruckus777: settle man
[06:56] <cyberanger> Ruckus777: Unit193 is from a different state
[06:57] <Ruckus777> i know its cool and i was nice FOR ONCE
[06:57] <Unit193> cyberanger: Feel free to boot me any time!


[18:23] <mlvmhn> ok there was 14.04.4 LTS, must have missed it
[18:24] <xubuntu11> wrong question*
[18:24] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: you get it via regular updates :)
[18:24] <mlvmhn> k, so when i the major update for LTS versions?
[18:24] <tgm4883> xubuntu11: because 1700 people putting "I Don't know" to every question would get super annoying super quick
[18:24] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: you mean to 16.04?
[18:24] <mlvmhn> yes
[18:25] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: IIRC, you would get that prompt at the first point release, around june/july
[18:25] <jushur> xubuntu11: you have the acpid service running?
[18:25] <xubuntu11> jushur: how do i check that?
[18:25] <mlvmhn> cool i have a tech question, can i run it here?
[18:25] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: is it ubuntu related? If so, then yes
[18:26] <xubuntu11> jushur: thanks for the keyword - i am looking into it!
[18:27] <mlvmhn> my system is 4 GB RAM, 3 GHz Core2Duo. is that enough?
[18:28] <jushur> mlvmhn: for what?
[18:28] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: yea we need more detauls
[18:28] <tgm4883> details*
[18:28] <mlvmhn> just regular use, i feel sometimes lag. i also run qBittorrent with several big torrents
[18:28] <jushur> pong runs on my p100 128mb ..
[18:28] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: yea that should be fine
[18:29] <jushur> mlvmhn: restrict your torrents some then?
[18:29] <mlvmhn> so if i upgrade with more ram is no point?
[18:30] <tgm4883> mlvmhn: i'd probably go SSD first
[18:30] <mlvmhn> k, what is the max of ram i can have in ubuntu?
[18:31] <jushur> mlvmhn: get a ssd for the system, and use the hdd for torrent sharing.
[18:31] <baizon> mlvmhn: 1024GB
[18:32] <tgm4883> baizon: nah, it's more than that
[18:32] <mlvmhn> k thx ;)
[18:34] <baizon> tgm4883: youre right, n/a
[18:34] <baizon> tgm4883: hmm, no sorry youre wrong, its 12TB
[18:35] <baizon> tgm4883: or when its extended 64TB
[18:35] <baizon> depends on the version
[18:35] <tgm4883> baizon: uh, 12TB is more than 1024GB :/
[18:35] <tgm4883> so i'm right...
[18:36] <tgm4883> at least, with the way I understand math. 1TB < 12TB
[18:36] <baizon> tgm4883: 2 memory slots = 2^64
[18:36] <baizon> tgm4883: 4 memory slots = 4^64
[18:37] <tgm4883> baizon: what does that have to do with anything?
[18:37] <baizon> tgm4883: nothing, sorry
[18:40] <FatTone> Hey could anyone answer a question for me real quick?
[18:40] <dougiel> ioria, thank you for your help... how do I make that edit permanant? while it does not work completely it puts my machine into a state where control + alt + del reboot it - do you know of a command that will just shut it down?
[18:42] <vlt> Hello. I have a problem displaying some PDF files. For example, in a 10 page document pages 2-10 all show the same page. The affected files come from different sources (according to their header data). If I run the file through pdfopt or pdftk the problem gets fixed. Any idea what could be the problem here?
[18:42] <FatTone> I'm new to Linux so this is probably pretty basic, but I was just looking through my trash folder and there were two folders in there named 'applications'. Inside those folders were a whole bunch of .desktop files. I didn't move those there. Is this something Linux does automatically?
[18:43] <reisio> vlt: PDF is an awful format, and generators for it are also awful
[18:43] <reisio> vlt: you could see how it looks via acroread, though
[18:43] <reisio> vlt: that's all most PDF authors test against
[18:43] <reisio> contributing to its awfulness
[18:45] <reisio> FatTone: they could be, for example, things you deleted from your desktop
[18:45] <reisio> or from your panel
[18:45] <tgm4883> FatTone: no, linux doesn't move stuff automatically to your trash folder
[18:45] <reisio> any little launcher or shortcut is ultimately usually a .desktop file
[18:46] <FatTone> There's probably 100 files in there
[18:46] <vlt> reisio: Yes, when testing on another machine in AcroRead it looks fine. But obviously other tools like pdftk or pdfopt seem to have no problem parsing it. How to fix the atril (evince fork) problem?
[18:47] <komaru_912> ss
[18:47] <tgm4883> vlt: file a bug with atril
[18:48] <vlt> tgm4883: Thank you.
[18:48] <FatTone> So I feel like I probably shouldn't just empty my trash with all these files in there. What do I do with them?
[18:48] <cortexman> i need the subversion from Xenial, i'm on Wily
[18:48] <cortexman> best procedure?
[18:48] <tgm4883> FatTone: well if they are in there, they most likely aren't being used
[18:48] <tgm4883> cortexman: compile?
[18:49] <k1l> cortexman: look out for a ppa
[18:49] <ravi_> hii
[18:49] <cortexman> what about just adding xenail repos and updating just subversion
[18:49] <cortexman> then disabling them
[18:49] <tgm4883> cortexman: no
[18:50] <tgm4883> cortexman: most definitely, do not do that
[18:50] <ioria> dougiel,  sudo halt -p      not working ?
[18:50] <reisio> vlt: I don't know pdfopt, but if it's like pdftk, it works on a much simpler level
[18:50]  * Fleuv stlr
[18:50] <bunjee> can someone instruct me how to install my HP Photosmart 7250 printer wirelessly.....Please?
[18:51] <reisio> vlt: if you separate all the pages and reparse each to make a new PDF, it will naturally be a superior PDF using Unixy tools
[18:51] <cortexman> how about - how do i disable svn / kwallet integration?
[18:51] <tgm4883> bunjee: what version of ubuntu?
[18:51] <cortexman> that's another way to fix
[18:51] <reisio> vlt: PDF is proprietary, you see, so no amount of bugs filed for evince will make evince render PDF the same as acroread
[18:51] <reisio> it's a lost cause
[18:51] <bunjee> 14.04
[18:52] <cortexman> i'm not actually using Kubuntu, but i have it installed
[18:52] <tgm4883> bunjee: is that a c7250 all-in-one?
[18:52] <bunjee> yes
[18:53] <tgm4883> bunjee: it's supported by the hplip package in 14.04, you should just be able to add it via the add printers dialog
[18:54] <bunjee> Is hplip installed already or do I need to get it from somewhere?
[18:54] <reisio> bunjee: probably need to install it
[18:54] <tgm4883> bunjee: I believe it's already installed, but you can check by doing 'dpkg -l | grep hplip'
[18:55] <dougiel> ioria, does not seem to just puts in a state wehree crtl+alt+del reboot it can we send a key combo to halt it?
[18:55] <bunjee> OK......thank you.I'll give it a shot....
[18:56] <theviralgriffin> hi guys need some help
[18:56] <cortexman> can i just apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop without f'ing unity?
[18:57] <xangua> cortexman: no
[18:57] <xangua> ! Language
[18:57] <tgm4883> well you could, but it would be pointless
[18:57] <cortexman> why would it be pointless?
[18:57] <cortexman> ! Language Police
[18:57] <tgm4883> cortexman: because it's a metapackage, and wouldn't remove any functionality
[18:58] <cortexman> ah.
[18:58] <cortexman> how do i get rid of it..
[18:58] <theviralgriffin> I have installed ubuntu 15.10, recently whenever i login, the desktop resets, like i am unable to change background etc along with that icons which i had unlocked from dock get reset, could anyone help
[18:58] <tgm4883> cortexman: what problem are you trying to solve?
[18:59] <cortexman> i need to get rid of kwallet, it's causing svn to crash. disabling it, and disabling subversion using kwallet, haven't worked.
[18:59] <cortexman> https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu%2F%2Bsource%2Fsubversion%2F%2Bbug%2F563179&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGx1GEswOV4qNi9hnN8TuHRML3qTQ
[18:59] <cortexman> oops
[18:59] <cortexman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/+bug/563179
[18:59] <cortexman> there is a fixed package in there
[18:59] <cortexman> but it's not in Wily
[18:59] <ioria> dougiel,  i don't remember a 'shutdown shortcut' , on unity you can use a custom shortcut that will call a script where you set you halt command ...
[18:59] <cortexman>  (see final comment)
[19:01] <theviralgriffin> I have installed ubuntu 15.10, recently whenever i login, the desktop resets, like i am unable to change background etc along with that icons which i had unlocked from dock get reset, could anyone help
[19:01] <cortexman> i'm thinking of just downloading the xenial package and installing it with dpkg http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/subversion
[19:01] <cortexman> if it breaks things i can just uninstall it and reinstall the wily version
[19:01] <dougiel> so the shutdown command does not work in ubuntu 14.04 lts
[19:01] <bunjee> tgm4883....no good on this end......trying to "add printer".........network...............don't know where to type in hplip.
[19:02] <tgm4883> bunjee: well you would do add printer > network > then type in the IP address of the printer
[19:03] <tgm4883> bunjee: or if you wait, it should probably autopopulate
[19:03] <tgm4883> bunjee: did you verify that hplip was installed?
[19:03] <bunjee> hplip is installed
[19:03] <theviralgriffin> I have installed ubuntu 15.10, recently whenever i login, the desktop resets, like i am unable to change background etc along with that icons which i had unlocked from dock get reset, could anyone help
[19:05] <tgm4883> bunjee: so you are in teh add printer interface, you've expanded out "Network printer" then selected "find network printer"?
[19:05] <tgm4883> !patience | theviralgriffin
[19:06] <bunjee> tgm4833...........yes
[19:07] <tgm4883> bunjee: do you know the IP address of the printer?
[19:07] <bunjee> yes....I did a printout.....
[19:07] <Guest29522> Hi guys, I needed some help with my Ubuntu 15.10. I get W: Failed to fetch http://np.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch type errors for all the wily-updates.. But when I switch to the us mirror, I get no error. I think its the mirror of Nepal having the issue.
[19:08] <Guest29522> Can anyone please help me on this ?
[19:08] <tgm4883> bunjee: then you should be able to put the IP address in the field there
[19:08] <bunjee> searching now....................
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Guest40841: Maybe the 'np' mirror has not completed synching up with mother to this time ?
[19:10] <arunpyasi> Bashing-om: its been more than 1 week we have this issue.
[19:12] <JackiePuppet> while in a man page, is there a way to give a command go to another refered man page without going back to the terminal (staying in that man page)?
[19:13] <bunjee> tgm4833.......I'll have to try later.....thanks for the help.............
[19:13] <Bashing-om> arunpyasi: As no problems with the main mirror site, then that points that Nipal's server with a problem . I did have same extended issue with my mirror site and I did change my morror. // I do not know the procedure to contact the mirror to inquire of the nature of the problem .
[19:14] <ioria> arunpyasi, try now sudo apt-get update
[19:14] <arunpyasi> ioria: did you fix the problem ?
[19:14] <arunpyasi> Bashing-om: ok :) No Problem.
[19:14] <ioria> arunpyasi, well, just a minut ago your repoare still at 9 Feb now are 20 Feb .... try to run the update
[19:16] <arunpyasi> ioria: how did you find that
[19:16] <arunpyasi> ?
[19:16] <ioria> arunpyasi, did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[19:17] <designbybeck> If I'm trying to do an install in the terminal and it says" E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" But I don't have anything else open, how do I fix that
[19:17] <arunpyasi> ioria: I encountered the error
[19:17] <s4b0t4g3> Hey
[19:17] <designbybeck> Normally I reboot the computer, but I don't want to do that everytime
[19:17] <ioria> arunpyasi, still now ?
[19:17] <arunpyasi> ioria: Hash Sum mismatch
[19:17] <arunpyasi> ioria: yes
[19:17] <s4b0t4g3> Any1 can help me? my audio isn`t working on lionsec
[19:17] <arunpyasi> error from wily-security and wily-updates
[19:18] <s4b0t4g3> Any1 can help me? my audio isn`t working on lionsec
[19:18] <k1l> s4b0t4g3: ask the lionsec support then
[19:18] <ioria> arunpyasi, sorry, yes , you repos  are stuck at 09-Feb-2016 00:07 	6.1K
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> what's kionsec
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> what's lionsec
[19:18] <ioria> arunpyasi, http://np.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/
[19:18] <Bashing-om> designbybeck: How about ' sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock ' ??
[19:19] <s4b0t4g3> But alsa-mixer is`nt working
[19:19] <designbybeck> ok let me try that Bashing-om
[19:19] <s4b0t4g3> omg
[19:19] <arunpyasi> ioria: ok.. so how can we fix this ?
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> s4b0t4g3  ok, so lionsec is some ibscue distro... you're in the wrong channel, it's not supported here
[19:19] <ioria> arunpyasi,  switch mirror :(
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> obscure*
[19:20] <s4b0t4g3> LionSec is based on Ubuntu Bro
[19:20] <arunpyasi> ioria: is bad idea..
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> s4b0t4g3  and ubuntu is based in debian, yet you're not in #debian
[19:20] <s4b0t4g3> Just a alternative distro of ubuntu on pentesting
[19:20] <arunpyasi> ioria: cause I have good down speed with my country mirror
[19:20] <ioria> arunpyasi,  really ? why ?
[19:20] <arunpyasi> other mirror, is late.
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> s4b0t4g3  alternative distro's are not supported here
[19:20] <arunpyasi> I mean, slow download
[19:21] <s4b0t4g3> ok thanks
[19:21] <ioria> arunpyasi,  oh... well, i'm in Europe and use the us mirrors ....
[19:21] <arunpyasi> ioria: ok.. but I have slow download speed naa..
[19:21] <arunpyasi> so.
[19:21] <designbybeck> nope Bashing-om ....that first command complete crashed my system
[19:21] <jainam> hello
[19:22] <designbybeck> ....well I guess that fixed the issue because the reboot ha
[19:23] <Amm0n> designbybeck, next time: ps -aux |grep /var/lib/dpkg/ and see whats using it
[19:23] <designbybeck> thanks Amm0n
[19:24] <Bashing-om> designbybeck: Can not imigine the why it would crash the system . What release are you running ? Maybe look'n that something in systemd has changed ??
[19:26] <pnwise> Can someone help me with xset on Ubuntu? I am using i3wm and can't set anything from a script to xset, only if I type in terminal. So now my screen is on all the time.
[19:28] <designbybeck>  Bashing-om 14.04
[19:29] <Bashing-om> designbybeck: K; .. No idea then as to why the crash .
[19:29] <RippyDippy> hey guys, Im on xfce. Any idea why my workspace names arn't permanent
[19:30] <designbybeck> Come on 16.04 :)
[19:31] <arunpyasi> ioria: I have just sent a msg to the maintainer of the repo, I hope he will help to fix the issue soon.
[19:32] <Amm0n> pnwise, you want to blank your screen?
[19:32] <pnwise> Amm0n yes
[19:33] <Amm0n> pnwise, you could use xscreensaver, or add xet somewhere in your i3 config, or pass it over with .xinitrc
[19:33] <ioria> arunpyasi,  good, try to clean the cache
[19:34] <pnwise> Amm0n It doesn't work, xset only change settings if they are typed in terminal, it doesn't work in i3 config, in crontab or any other script.
[19:34] <arunpyasi> ioria: I did everything out !!
[19:34] <arunpyasi> ioria: I cleaned all the apt's cache, lists but no fix with my country repo :P
[19:36] <ioria> arunpyasi,  sorry to hear that
[19:36] <Amm0n> pnwise, did you try this suggested solution: https://faq.i3wm.org/question/5938/getting-screen-to-blank/ ?
[19:37] <pnwise> Amm0n Yes, I tried every solution I was able to find on google. But let me try again
[19:37] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, then try changing your mirrors/sources in the package manager then updating
[19:38] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: yeah did it. I am now connecting with us mirror.. But I want our mirror to be fixed ASAP.
[19:39] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, yes understood, closer mirrors are fastest
[19:39] <arunpyasi> yeah BluesKaj
[19:40] <hexhaxtron> How can I make forward of port 22 without access to the router?
[19:40] <ioria> arunpyasi,  there is also http://ubuntu.ntc.net.np/    but still stopped at 9 Feb
[19:40] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: with my country mirror I get 3-5 MB/s but with US or other max I get is 80 KB/s
[19:41] <arunpyasi> ioria: yeah, they both are the same server.... just the domain is different.
[19:41] <ioria> arunpyasi,  i see
[19:41] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, have you tried the main mirror in the UK ?
[19:41] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: yeah, they work fine.
[19:42] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: main mirror is in UK or US ? I think its US !!
[19:43] <arunpyasi> ohh.. I see, its UK. :D
[19:43] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, no it's in the UK
[19:43] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/archive.ubuntu.com right ?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, yes'
[19:45] <Amm0n> pnwise, i'm not familar with i3, but you could also set it with X. See: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#Setting_up_DPMS_in_X
[19:45] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, didn't realize you meant a ppa though
[19:46] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: did I ? I don't think I meant a PPA :P
[19:48] <ioria> arunpyasi,  have you rebooted by the time you cleaned the cache ?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> arunpyasi, oops sorry , the launchpad thing made me think it was appa
[19:49] <nik> kmkkk
[19:49] <arunpyasi> ioria: no, I haven't but yes, I had tested to many other PC but it reported the same error
[19:49] <arunpyasi> BluesKaj: Oh ok. NP
[19:49] <pnwise> Thanks Amm0n I already have similar script for X, but it does not work either
[19:50] <ioria> arunpyasi,  you also tried  s sudo apt update ?   (not apt-get)
[19:51] <arunpyasi> ioria: isn't that almost same ? No i haven't
[19:51] <ioria> arunpyasi,  yes it is
[19:51] <ioria> :þ
[19:51] <deniz946> hello, my microphone is recording VERY low, any help with that?
[19:51] <arunpyasi> lol
[19:51] <deniz946> if I amplify it, i hear so much noise
[19:52] <designbybeck> Amm0n, it happened again, so I did what you said and I don't see anything
[19:52] <Gallomimia> what kinda mic?
[19:52] <deniz946> Gallomimia: Internal (built-in) or some pluged
[19:52] <designbybeck> Amm0n, the grep just gave back the color command
[19:52] <Gallomimia> both then?
[19:53] <deniz946> Gallomimia: Yes
[19:53] <Gallomimia> seems pretty odd... i was going to suggest a mismatch in impedence versus voltage
[19:53] <Gallomimia> what do you use to "amplify" it?
[19:53] <deniz946> Settings > Sound > Input
[19:53] <designbybeck> Amm0n, oh looks like Software Updater was open this time, but wouldn't have have shown in the grep command?
[19:54] <Gallomimia> and what's the "noise" you hear?
[19:54] <deniz946> The amplification noise
[19:54] <Gallomimia> a buzz
[19:54] <deniz946> like zzzzzzzz
[19:54] <deniz946> yeah
[19:54] <Gallomimia> hmmmm
[19:54] <rederred> buna sera
[19:55] <deniz946> This is how i got it
[19:55] <deniz946> http://storage1.static.itmages.com/i/16/0221/h_1456084526_7922254_3107a3a2f5.png
[19:55] <Gallomimia> maybe you can change something with pulse-audio but i'm at a loss to help
[19:55] <django_> whats linux mint?
[19:55] <django_> its not ubuntu right
[19:55] <Gallomimia> right
[19:55] <k1l> django_: no, its not ubuntu
[19:55] <Gallomimia> it's based on ubuntu but it's something else
[19:55] <deniz946> pulse audio is some app?
[19:56] <Gallomimia> deniz946: no it's the backend for the audio in ubuntu. there's apps to manipulate it
[19:56] <Gallomimia> settings > sound being one of them
[19:56] <k1l> deniz946: some laptops internal sounddevices have some issue with the netbrum. is this a laptop? did you try to unplug the wire and see if that is still the issue?
[19:57] <deniz946> k1l: Yeah, it's laptop, I don't want to open the laptop, waranty matter
[19:57] <k1l> deniz946: i mean let it run on battery and see if that error is still there with the net brumm
[19:58] <deniz946> okay, one sec, ill test
[20:00] <deniz946> k1l: still very low
[20:00] <k1l> deniz946: ok. then it could be just a cheap audio card or its not well seperated from the power transistors which means the brumm is not going away due to hardware issues
[20:01] <deniz946> I think it's not cheap, the laptop i have is quite good, and with good sound card
[20:01] <deniz946> Sound Blaster Sound Card
[20:02] <ioria> deniz946, you can try audacity
[20:02] <oiuy543> does your sound work when you boot from usb installed os?
[20:02] <deniz946> oiuy543: Didn't tested it, but in windows works quite good
[20:03] <Caroga> any lvm experts in the house ?
[20:04] <Caroga> I seek help with recovering lvm metadata from one of my pv's and it's not going that well
[20:06] <||arifaX> I have a dual boot 14.04 / XP. XP worked and is still in menu.lst but I can not boot it, ends in black screen doing nothing, no logos, nothing. any ideas how I can fix that
[20:07] <skinux> What is the most recommended way to upgrade distribution versions now?
[20:07] <k1l> skinux: cli or gui?
[20:07] <skinux> either one
[20:07] <bekks> skinux: do-release-upgrade
[20:07] <Multbrelch> I try to forward X11 from an old SUN onto an Ubuntu 14.04 via telnet and use "setenv DISPLAY IPaddress:0.0" on the SUN. It says: "XView error: Cannot open connection". Any idea?
[20:07] <k1l> do-release-upgrade on cli. update-manager on gui
[20:07] <bekks> Multbrelch: telnet cant forward anything.
[20:07] <bekks> Multbrelch: You need to use SSH.
[20:08] <skinux> It says no release found, but I'm on Trusty right now and I know there are three newer versions.
[20:08] <Multbrelch> bekks it works with Xming under windows ...
[20:08] <bekks> skinux: Which ve®sion are you on?
[20:08] <skinux> 14.04.3
[20:08] <bekks> Multbrelch: Using telnet - it cant. telnet doesnt support forwarding.
[20:08] <serg__> reisio, after reboot problem reappeared
[20:08] <bekks> skinux: There are no newer LTS releases.
[20:09] <Multbrelch> bekks, but with Xming and a telnet putty connection to the SUN it works ...
[20:09] <skinux> Oh, well I know that, but I want to upgrade non-LTS version
[20:09] <tellendil> Hi ! I've got a problem with apt-cacher-ng in Wily, it will fire random mismatch for checksums and therefore is unusable to install packages. I'm using the Wily version from vagrant (ubuntu/wily64). Does somebody has a clue ?
[20:09] <bekks> Multbrelch: Well, then you are the first one who uses a feature of telnet which isnt implemented.
[20:09] <k1l> skinux: to 14.04.4?
[20:09] <skinux> To 14.10 to start with
[20:09] <Multbrelch> bekks, or is there something I miss with respect to Xming?
[20:10] <k1l> skinux: 14.10 is dead, so it 15.04.
[20:10] <bekks> Multbrelch: telnet does not support forwarding. You need to use SSH.
[20:10] <k1l> skinux: so you want to upgrade to 15.10 now? do you really want to upgrade?
[20:10] <skinux> Well, AFAIK I have to upgrade by one version at a time
[20:10] <med_> you should be able to go from LTS to LTS or at least LTS to LTS.1
[20:10] <Mchammerdad> ON windows 10 there is a really neat "cast to device" that works great with my smart TV. I can stream movies I downloaded to my TV in the living room that way. Does Ubuntu/Linux have any similar features that I can use?
[20:11] <k1l> skinux: yes. and that is the problem now. that is why i ask if you really want to upgrade. you will have to make a EOL upgrade to 14.10, then a EOL upgrade to 15.04 then a upgrade to 15.10.
[20:11] <skinux> So I can go directly from 14.04 to 15.10?
[20:11] <k1l> skinux: and in 4 months you need to upgrade to 16.04.
[20:11] <k1l> skinux: no
[20:11] <akik> Multbrelch: when using telnet the x11 apps are not tunneled but try to connect to the $DISPLAY you've set with x11 protocols
[20:11] <johnzorn> what does xdg-open use to figure out what program to use to open something? I changed the default for text/html to chromium. When I do a xdg-mime query default text/html I get chromium-browser-chromium.desktop but when I xdg-open a .html it open in firefox
[20:11] <skinux> Well, I want OpenJDK-8, website says to install from Repo, but repo doesn't have it.
[20:12] <Multbrelch> akik, hi! BTW: telnet does now work when not installing xinetd !!
[20:12] <Multbrelch> akik, so what must I do? Something like this?: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/x11-forwarding-over-telnet-is-it-possible-261553/
[20:13] <BarnacleBob> wait
[20:13] <akik> Multbrelch: the correct answer is http://sunfreeware.com/
[20:13] <akik> Multbrelch: get openssh from there
[20:13] <bekks> akik: No.
[20:13] <bekks> Multbrelch: The correct answer is www.opencsw.org
[20:13] <bekks> Sunfreeware is dead for ages.
[20:13] <k1l> skinux: see the PPA http://askubuntu.com/questions/464755/how-to-install-openjdk-8-on-14-04-lts
[20:13] <Bashing-om> skinux: Bugs should now be irined out : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1497024 <- release upgrades should jump over unsupported releases.
[20:14] <Multbrelch> akik and bekks, why does it work with Xming and putty via telnet? Is there something similar like Xming for Linux?
[20:15] <bekks> Multbrelch: akik told you what telnet does. The solution to your issue is using ssh.
[20:15] <Multbrelch> k
[20:20] <Nukien> I'm having an issue with drive remove/insert with 14.04 - using a supermicro system
[20:21] <skinux> Tried to use the PPA, apt says there is nothing java8
[20:21] <Nukien> Removing a drive doesn't seem to produce a notification - the system just eventually notices it can't write to the device and offlines it
[20:21] <Nukien> Not like removing a usb drive
[20:21] <Nukien> Inserting a replacement (this is for testing md replacement etc) does nothing - no notification of a new drive
[20:22] <Nukien> Is it missing a hotplug module or similar ?
[20:24] <cortexman> how do i get unity to be the default desktop from the command line..
[20:24] <Mchammerdad> Anyone have any luck getting 3 monitors configured with 2  GPU's?
[20:25] <qwertyuioplkjhgf> cortexman: what do you mean?
[20:25] <Bashing-om> cortexman: Depends, what release are you running ?
[20:25] <cortexman> wily
[20:26] <cortexman> it's trying and failing to boot into kubuntu
[20:26] <k1l> cortexman: autologin?
[20:26] <cortexman> not starting sddm either
[20:26] <cortexman> it's booting into console
[20:26] <k1l> cortexman: sudo apt install lightdm
[20:27] <cortexman> i have lightdm
[20:27] <Bashing-om> cortexman: What results ' sudo systemctl start lightdm ' ?
[20:28] <k1l> sudo systemctl start lightdm
[20:28] <cortexman> worked..
[20:28] <cortexman> how do i get that on boot
[20:28] <k1l> what bootparameter do you use?
[20:29] <cortexman> no idea
[20:31] <ioria> cortexman, cat Xorg.0.log | grep Kernel
[20:31] <ioria> cortexman, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep Kernel
[20:32] <k1l> dmesg should tell the booting kernel parameters too
[20:43] <platsbruts> hi
[20:44] <qwertyuioplkjhgf> hi
[20:44] <platsbruts> I have a separate /home partition and I want to reinstall my ubuntu distro
[20:44] <cortexman> kernel params are ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[20:44] <platsbruts> how can I do that?
[20:45] <cortexman> @ioria @k1l
[20:45] <ioria> cortexman, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm   should set it as default ... what are you using now ?
[20:45] <cortexman> just did that
[20:46] <cortexman> i have another problem, i can't install the cuda deb anymore
[20:46] <cortexman> Failed to fetch cuda-repo-7-5-local/Relase No hash entry in Release file which is considered strong enough for security purposes
[20:47] <lowkey> anyone here running Ubuntu on Dell XPS 13" (2015) laptop?
[20:52] <qwertyuioplkjhgf> (exit
[20:53] <Multbrelch> akik, installing ssh is almost impossible on the SUN since I even do not have pkgadd or a compiler. Anyway, if I want to  try to connect to the $DISPLAY via the X11 protocols it should work as described here, right? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/x11-forwarding-over-telnet-is-it-possible-261553/page2.html
[20:57] <cortexman> is there a way to tell apt to ignore the hash
[21:00] <niesoft> hi
[21:04] <streulma> hello if I run 14.04 or 15.10 my unity is sometimes reset with old fonts and loogs ugly
[21:05] <ouroumov> streulma, it's a feature not a bug
[21:05] <MonkeyDust_> streulma  install unity-tweak
[21:05] <streulma> oh, not normal that Unity reset
[21:05] <streulma> a friend has also
[21:05] <k1l> streulma: that is not intended. does a relogin help?
[21:06] <streulma> a reboot helps
[21:06] <streulma> I have an Intel 4600 card
[21:07] <streulma> and my Nvidia is not supported with Nouveau, kernel issue
[21:07] <streulma> I have to use nouveau.modeset=0 and i915.modeset=1
[21:08] <tester> Hey
[21:09] <tester> Is there french communauty here ?
[21:09] <EriC^^> #ubuntu-fr
[21:09] <tester> thanks
[21:09] <EriC^^> np
[21:09] <tester> what about blackbuntu ?
[21:10] <k1l> tester: thats not an ubuntu
[21:10] <EriC^^> no idea, try /msg alis list *blackbuntu*
[21:10] <k1l> tester: see the website you got that OS from.
[21:10] <suncokret> hello, is it secure if we use portable linux programs which we put for example in home directory?
[21:10] <tester> ok i gonna do this
[21:10] <tester> thx guyw
[21:11] <tester> guyz qwrty grr
[21:11] <k1l> suncokret: depends on the programs you run. if the portable programs harm your system its not safe :)
[21:12] <suncokret> for example i run double commander portable, is it safe in home directory or it is better to put program directory in for example usr directory and path for configuration files in home?
[21:15] <suncokret> i mean if i put double commander portable in home directory, is double commander safe there, can it be harm by viruses?
[21:17] <k1l> suncokret: there is no safe place if your system is infected.
[21:18] <suncokret> i don't understand... tell me is it better and safer to put double commander portable in home directory or in usr directory? or it is same?
[21:18] <teward> suncokret: it is neither safer nor better.  the problem is the safety of the application NOT where you put it
[21:19] <MonkeyDust_> suncokret  what is double commander? a game?
[21:19] <suncokret> i understand that, double comander is safe
[21:19] <k1l> for virus it doesn matter. but ou dont put portable stuff into /usr. you put that into your /home or into /opt
[21:19] <teward> suncokret: then I would put it in your own /home/ directory
[21:19] <suncokret> double commander is best file manager for linyx
[21:19] <suncokret> linux
[21:19] <cortexman_> my xenial upgrade has been pretty successful, with the exception that i have to run sudo systemctl start lightdm after boot
[21:19] <teward> somewhere
[21:19] <cortexman_> can't get lightdm to stick
[21:20] <teward> !xenial | cortexman_, assuming you want help with that stuff
[21:20] <teward> so, #ubuntu+1
[21:20] <suncokret> http://doublecmd.sourceforge.net/
[21:20] <cortexman_> may not be xenial related. i have multiple window managers installed
[21:20] <cortexman_> gdm, lightdm, sddm, kdm, whatever
[21:20] <suncokret> that is link for double commander :)
[21:20] <teward> cortexman_: well, you said you upgraded to Xenial
[21:20] <k1l> suncokret: why do you use a portable version? double commander is in the ubuntu repos
[21:21] <teward> cortexman_: so, because you upgraded to Xenial, you should refer to #ubuntu+1 with any support questions and such :)
[21:21] <suncokret> yes, but i like portable... :)
[21:21] <baizon> suncokret: that doesnt make any sense
[21:21] <k1l> suncokret: portable is dumb if its in the official repo
[21:23] <suncokret> if you use portable you can use several versions in same time
[21:23] <k1l> suncokret: which doesnt make sense
[21:24] <suncokret> for me it does make sense, it is thing of like and choice :)
[21:25] <suncokret> if developer make portable version then much people probably use it :)
[21:25] <MonkeyDust_> suncokret  i'm installing it from the repos, why do you go to that website
[21:25] <k1l> suncokret: ok, this is out of the #ubuntu focus then.
[21:26] <MonkeyDust_> suncokret  it's simply similar to norton commanader, midnight commander, nothing special
[21:26] <MonkeyDust_> gnome-commander
[21:27] <suncokret> it is much better than norton or midnight commander... it is much better... it is similar to total commander
[21:27] <truexfan81> can anyone tell me where the phpmyadmin package puts its config file on 14.04 when you don't specify one of the 2 httpd options during install?
[21:28] <Ben64> /etc/phpmyadmin probably
[21:29] <Abe_> mounting and unmounting cd's in linux is a very big pain
[21:29] <Ben64> nope
[21:30] <SupaYoshi> Hey guys
[21:30] <SupaYoshi> maybe you need to limit the MARK rule with -o?
[21:30] <SupaYoshi> How do I do this on this?
[21:30] <Ben64> SupaYoshi: need context
[21:30] <k1l> SupaYoshi: what context?
[21:30] <SupaYoshi> sudo iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner deluge -j MARK --set-mark 0x1
[21:30] <Abe_> can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab <--- ok means what?
[21:30] <Ben64> Abe_: explain exactly what you're doing
[21:30] <k1l> Abe_: what is your real issue?
[21:30] <SupaYoshi> Okay wow
[21:30] <truexfan81> Ben64: you would think that but nope, its not there
[21:30] <SupaYoshi> Well.
[21:30] <k1l> Abe_: your desktop (gvfs) should do all the mounting for you.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> I am trying to route all the traffic owned by user deluge, over tun1.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> I've got that working.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> But after doing it...
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> I cannot access deluged anymore from my LAN.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> because all traffic for that user and its processes
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> is run over that tun1.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> But I want to access it from my LAN.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> And nobody knows how to in #netfilter
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> lol
[21:31] <Abe_> kk so I'm installing a windows game via Pol, the game has 3 Cd's, it does not recognize the 2nd Cd.
[21:31] <SupaYoshi> except this guy, suggesting this:
[21:32] <SupaYoshi> SupaYoshi, maybe you need to limit the MARK rule with -o?
[21:33] <SupaYoshi> So Im trying to put that -o argument into that MARK rule.
[21:33] <SupaYoshi> But not getting it yet.
[21:33] <SupaYoshi> Any idea  k1l
[21:34] <Ben64> Abe_: what game, are they cds or dvds, what does dmesg say about the disc?
[21:34] <k1l> SupaYoshi: sorry, no
[21:35] <Abe_> well I will eventually get it to run i am not worried about that
[21:35] <drac0666> hi, i have problem with my Ubuntu mate 15, after reboot i often have no sounds, sometimes i have to run app (spotify) twice or more to hear something from spearking. Any ideas why?
[21:35] <Abe_> but finding disks with  """ mount|grep ^'/dev' """ seems not very user friendly.
[21:36] <Ben64> Abe_: well why are you doing that?
[21:36] <Abe_> to find my mounting point
[21:37] <Ben64> Abe_: so did you come here to complain or do you want help with something
[21:38] <truexfan81> anyone know where that conf file is? i'd really like to gain access to phpmyadmin, but since i don't have physical access to the machine i have to add my ip to its config to do so
[21:38] <Abe_> just complaining xD sorry. well I need help with that. but I think i'm able to figure it out.
[21:38] <Abe_> thx to google
[21:38] <tsapii> how do you need help with it if you can figure it out?
[21:39] <Ben64> truexfan81: use find or locate or something? or install phpmyadmin manually
[21:39] <faust`> hello, i am moving my web server to a new server, how can i copy everything from old server to new server? my only access way to old server is FTP
[21:39] <truexfan81> Ben64: locate says its in the apache dir, but nano says the file is empty
[21:40] <Abe_> tsapii: idk i am confused
[21:40] <tsapii> what are you confused about?
[21:41] <NoobMessesUpLinu> hi guys
[21:43] <asper> hello there. running on ubuntu 16.04 i can't delete a bridge interface created by ip link. after reboot its still there and an previously associated wifi interface uses it as master.
[21:43] <Abe_> tsapii: nothing, I'm going to try it later again,
[21:45] <xangua> ! 16.04 | asper
[21:45] <drac0666> I have problem with my Ubuntu mate 15, after reboot i often have no sounds, sometimes i have to run app (spotify) twice or more to hear something from spearking. Any ideas why?
[21:45] <victoria__> hello
[21:45] <victoria__> i have i problem with trusty ubuntu no wlan
[21:46] <victoria__> please somebody help me
[21:46] <Ben64> !details | victoria__
[21:47] <victoria__> ok
[21:50] <drac0666> I have problem with my Ubuntu mate 15, after reboot i often have no sounds, sometimes i have to run app (spotify) twice or more to hear something from spearking. Profile and Device in settings is correct (Maya u5 usb card) when i type pactl list sinks short i recive RUNNING on maya and still i hear nothing on speakrs
[21:50] <victoria__> http://pastebin.com/J2r0Zutt
[21:51] <k1l> victoria__: can you show the output of "lspci" and "lsusb"?
[21:52] <ouroumov> victoria__, your wireless is not detected using lshw -C network ?
[21:52] <drac0666> my problem is so wired that noone wants to help? ;p
[21:52] <Majora320> s
[21:53] <victoria__> how can i know that please  give a command
[21:53] <Majora320> know what?
[21:53] <ouroumov> drac0666, more likely no one know how to help, wait for someone qualified to read your message
[21:54] <Ben64> victoria__: the same way you just posted the output from iwconfig, post the output of both 'lspci' and 'lsusb'
[21:54] <victoria__> ahhh, ok :$
[21:55] <truexfan81> Ben64: find finds nothing locate just finds empty files
[21:55] <drac0666> ouroumov, ok i will try ask later
[21:55] <truexfan81> as long as nginx has been around there should really be an option for it in the phpmyadmin autoconfig
[21:55] <ouroumov> drac0666, also ask in #ubuntu-mate on the off chance it's distribution-specific
[21:55] <victoria__> http://pastebin.com/yJYveETi
[21:55] <Ben64> truexfan81: just install it manually then
[21:56] <ilonka_> hi
[21:56] <truexfan81> Ben64: what you mean by manual? compile?
[21:56] <Ben64> truexfan81: no... go to phpmyadmin, download, done
[21:56] <drac0666> ouroumov, i doubt that i had that on ubuntu/ubuntu mate/linux mint
[21:57] <ouroumov> k
[21:58] <k1l> victoria__: and "lspci"?
[21:58] <Majora320>  #freenode
[22:01] <victoria__> lpsci here: http://pastebin.com/7NSWhEGY
[22:01] <truexfan81> lol extracted the zip did a ls | grep .conf got 0 results so that doesn't have the conf that allows me to add my ip to it either
[22:01] <victoria__> i ve translated that
[22:01] <truexfan81> time for church, i'll have to work on it more later i guess
[22:02] <Gallomimia> ls | grep .conf probably won't have as good of results as find . -name .conf
[22:02] <Gallomimia> and both probably need some wildcards
[22:03] <k1l> victoria__: "lspci"
[22:03] <k1l> victoria__: there was a typo
[22:03] <victoria__> http://pastebin.com/7NSWhEGY
[22:03] <victoria__> ahh wait now is working
[22:03] <victoria__> lpsci
[22:04] <k1l> victoria__: details matter: its lspci. not lpsci
[22:04] <victoria__> sorry for that :$
[22:05] <diego_> Hey guys. I need to create a hotspot, but my situation is a bit different than the tutorials/guides ive seen online., and therefore I couldnt make it to work. Can anyone quickly help me?
[22:05] <victoria__> here we go: http://pastebin.com/zqS6r2GK
[22:06] <k1l> victoria__: why are you root?
[22:06] <Slashman> hello, for a server, is there any point to running unprivileged lxc container? the server guide don't give much details about the security risk that may exists
[22:06] <victoria__> it s worng
[22:06] <k1l> !bcm43xx | victoria__ see this
[22:09] <drac0666> I have problem with my Ubuntu mate 15, after reboot i often have no sounds, sometimes i have to run app (spotify) twice or more to hear something from spearking. Profile and Device in settings is correct (Maya u5 usb card) when i type pactl list sinks short i recive RUNNING on maya and still i hear nothing on speakrs
[22:14] <dillon> hey guys, I need some more help I am trying to run a .gba file and it automatically downloaded mednafan and it said that it would work with the .gba file but it is not opening or running anything could someone please help me out
[22:26] <monq> hey guys, i got a problem with my etc/profile file and cant get along :/
[22:26] <monq> as soon as i connect via ssh on my ubuntu server a message is displayed: -bash: /etc/profile: row 22: syntax error at unexpected word »$'do\r'«
[22:26] <monq> i googled but didnt find solution - although my syntax in that file is correct
[22:26] <monq> same as here: http://faculty.csuci.edu/peter.smith/s13421handouts/etcprofile.pdf
[22:27] <k1l> did you make changes to that file?
[22:28] <skinux> Is this stuff actually free or is it pirated? http://administrationx.net/Ubuntu-Server-Administration-pdf.html
[22:28] <monq> yes
[22:29] <monq> i added a line at its bottom : SECRET_KEY_BASE=MY HASH
[22:29] <monq> MY HAS is a hash value
[22:29] <monq> later i deleted
[22:29] <monq> and did reboot
[22:30] <monq> but error still appears
[22:30] <ouroumov>  /etc/profile is sourced by your shell upon login. There's a syntax error in the file. Correct the syntax error and the message will disappear.
[22:31] <tgm4883> skinux: what stuff
[22:31] <ouroumov> If row=line then it gives you and idea where the syntax error is monq
[22:32] <skinux> The PDFs on that page
[22:33] <rexwin____> how to find what dovecot packages are installed in my server?
[22:33] <tgm4883> skinux: not sure. They are all super old though
[22:33] <tgm4883> rexwin____: 'dpkg -l | grep dovecot'
[22:33] <skinux> Well, I probably don't want anything really old
[22:34] <tgm4883> skinux: what are you trying to do?
[22:35] <ouroumov> monq, did you by any chance copied the code from that pdf onto a windows machine before pasting it on your server?
[22:36] <skinux> I was simply looking for free PDF books on Ubuntu administration
[22:36] <skinux> Figured I might learn a few things.
[22:36] <tgm4883> skinux: well it's not a pdf, but there is always https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[22:36] <monq> ouroumov, yes
[22:37] <ouroumov> monq, I think that's where the syntax error is comming from. Under windows the new line sequence is \r\n
[22:37] <skinux> Does that teach about all the various commands?
[22:38] <monq> ouroumov is there a way copying that file content without windows format
[22:38] <monq> im typting that whole script manually right now xD
[22:39] <ouroumov> monq, you can try removing the stuff in-place and see if that fixes things. Use on the server: sed -i s/"\r\n"/"\n"/g /etc/profile
[22:41] <monq> ouroumov i tried that command didnt fix it
[22:41] <drac0666> I have problem with my Ubuntu mate 15, after reboot i often have no sounds, sometimes i have to run app (spotify) twice or more to hear something from spearking. Profile and Device in settings is correct (Maya u5 usb card) when i type pactl list sinks short i recive RUNNING on maya and still i hear nothing on speakrs
[22:42] <monq> ouroumov but im pretty sure u are rigt with ur hypothesis cuz k1l told me same
[22:43] <ouroumov> Oh, I hadn't noticed
[22:44] <monq> he told me in another channel
[22:44] <sparks_> Hey folks, made a pretty big boo boo this weekend.. I went to shrink my mdadm raid6 from 10 drives to 9, which I did successfully, but I forgot to resize2fs the device partition prior to shrinking the array... what I am now left with is a working array, but a file system that is borked
[22:44] <monq> but im too lazy to type that script by hand
[22:44] <monq> xD
[22:46] <sparks_> I went ahead and ran fsck.ext4 on the device but it cxomplains about the partition not matching the device count in blocks and fails out eventually.. even if I run with the -y flag
[22:50] <andybrine> hi everyone
[22:51] <andybrine> does anyone know if samba still works for filesharing in ubuntu 15.10?
[22:51] <k1l> andybrine: why not?
[22:51] <compdoc> you would hope so
[22:52] <andybrine> k1l I just cant seem to get it working and have tried everything
[22:52] <andybrine> im not able to see my workgroup at all
[22:53] <andybrine> thought I would be able to see that on my machine
[22:55] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Is here. our day brightens .
[22:56] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: :)
[22:56] <andybrine> Is there anything specifically that I need to do to make the workgroup visible?
[22:59] <andybrine> any help would be appreciated thanks :D
[23:02] <sparks_> also trying to resize gives me this error resize2fs: Can't read a block bitmap while trying to resize
[23:04] <drac0666> Changing autospawn=yes to no in /etc/pulse/client.conf stops pulseaudio service from working?
[23:13] <monq> k1l , ouroumov thanks guys! i just wrote that script manually in vim and now everythink works fine. as u mentioned the syntax error was cuz of the \r\n linebreak windows is fomatting its lines, but linux doesnt ackknowledge \r in its format. the problem was that im operating from a windows machine via ssh. even when i replace all \r\n in my editor (sublime2 or n++) with \n only, everytime when i copy that content, windows automatically adds \r\n to
[23:13] <monq>  each end of line again(!)
[23:13] <monq> i just wanted to share with u
[23:13] <ouroumov> Ok, thanks for the update monq
[23:13] <k1l> monq: look at the encoding.
[23:14] <k1l> ubuntu uses utf-8
[23:14] <Massa> Hey anyone ever installed lolcat on their machine?
[23:15] <monq> i found a way with sublime2 : u can determine it via: VIEW -> LINE ENDINGS -> WINDOWS / UNIX
[23:15] <minitrue> hey, im having a problem after upgrading (apt-get upgrade) after boot i cant log in, it only refresh the log in screen where it ask for an user and password, anyone knows what might be the problem?
[23:16] <EriC^^> minitrue: new graphics driver isn't working
[23:16] <EriC^^> did you try the guest account?
[23:17] <minitrue> EriC^^: yes, i have different users its the same with all of them
[23:17] <k1l> minitrue: what is "uname -a"? and what ubuntu is that?
[23:18] <EriC^^> press ctrl+alt+f1 and type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:19] <minitrue> 3.13.0-77 generic
[23:19] <minitrue> k1l: ^
[23:19] <k1l> minitrue: is "linux-generic" installed?
[23:21] <minitrue> k1l: I would asume I've being using 14.04 lts
[23:25] <minitrue> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ao2g
[23:27] <k1l> minitrue: is "linux-generic" installed?
[23:27] <k1l> minitrue: sudo apt install linux-generic
[23:29] <minitrue> k1l: yes is installed
[23:30] <k1l> minitrue: how did you install the video driver?
[23:30] <EriC^^> minitrue: which driver are you using?
[23:33] <minitrue> EriC^^: I can see that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[23:36] <silvian> HI andybrine
[23:37] <silvian> which workgroup are you talking about?
[23:37] <minitrue> EriC^^: is there a way to change the drivers from tty?
[23:37] <diego_> can somebody quickly help me set up a hotspot? the guides online I followed couldn't help cuz my settings are a bit different
[23:38] <silvian> @digeo_: a wifi hotspot?
[23:39] <silvian> as in set your laptop to be an ad-hoc wifi hotspot?
[23:39] <andybrine> not to worry silvian, I have got it sorted
[23:39] <silvian> cool cheers
[23:39] <andybrine> was having problems setting up samba and now its working.
[23:39] <silvian> ah for file sharing
[23:40] <silvian> cool... glad you got it sorted :)
[23:40] <andybrine> Such a challenge setting samba up now its crazy!!
[23:40] <silvian> i just use ssh and sftp to be honest... i don't bothe with any forms of file sharing anymore
[23:40] <silvian> too much hassle
[23:40] <silvian> ssh i know it works and its gonna work and be secure
[23:41] <silvian> if you need a gui filezilla is excellent to use with sftp
[23:43] <diego_> @silvan Correct. However the thing is that I get internet from an ethernet cable and because I'm on a school network, I need to set up the Ip address range, DNS server and default gateway. My laptop network card apparently doesn't support hostspot, but that doesnt matter since I have a netowrk adapter - alfa AWUS036NH. I would like the alfa to broadcast the wifi from the ethernet internet, but i dont know how to set it up :(
[23:44] <ouroumov> diego_, your card has to be able to do that for starters
[23:44] <diego_> which card? the laptop network card cant, but the alfa network adapter can
[23:45] <silvian> you should be able to setup a bridged connection
[23:45] <silvian> i had to do teh same thing you're discribing there before diego_
[23:45] <silvian> which OS are you running?
[23:46] <diego_> Mint xfce
[23:46] <silvian> let's have a look you should be able to do it from you network utilities in the gui
[23:46] <diego_> @silvian could you help me, or point me to a guide online. I just installed Linux few days ago, and am still new to everything
[23:47] <k1l> diego_: for mint support please see the mint channels. and watch out their blogpost about their site beeing hacked and donwloads beeing changed
[23:47] <silvian> yep that's what i'm looking for right now...
[23:47] <silvian> i'll find you the guide should be very straight forward to follow
[23:48] <silvian> check first you got this package installed
[23:48] <silvian> http://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/bridge-utils
[23:48] <diego_> @k1l, I tried there before, but now everybody is overwhelmed with the hack, that they don't have time for my problems :) And I believe my OS should be safe. but who knows, more information will come out I guess
[23:48] <k1l> diego_: yeah, but your are still running their os. so see their support.
[23:48] <k1l> !mint
[23:49] <diego_> @silvian I got the package installed.
[23:49] <silvian> ok have you got a tool called network manager?
[23:50] <diego_> @silvian No I have "Network" and "Network Connections" idk if its the same
[23:51] <k1l> diego_: silvian at least go to #linux then. mint is really offtopic in here.
[23:51] <silvian> ok
[23:51] <silvian> let me contact you in private diego_
[23:51] <silvian> on this issue
[23:52] <diego_> @k1l haha chill man. I haven't came here to spam nor to attack ubuntu.
[23:56] <Bashing-om> minitrue: Still struggling ?


[00:00] <lifeless> so the point is - you want to fork
[00:00] <lifeless> you fork by either:
[00:00] <lifeless>  - unwinding history (uncommi)
[00:00] <lifeless>  - making new branches (branch / switch -b)
[05:24] <kklimonda> ScottK: bug 653619 could probably be marked as a Won't Fix - Backporting Evolution 2.32 to 10.04 requires backporting at least a dozen other packages - new GLib and Gtk+, few other libraries, e-d-s,  modules that evolution uses to provide additional features like Exchange support, most likely evolution-couchdb.. in my opinion it's too risky to push all those updates to all users of -backports, especially given that you can't go back from
[05:24] <kklimonda>  2.32 (or even 2.30) to 2.28. That being said I'm probably going to create a PPA with all those packages backported to Lucid so people can stop complaining about us not doing anything, and start complaining about Evo not working.
[05:25] <ScottK> kklimonda: Sounds like a plan.  I'll do so.
[05:25] <kklimonda> Also, backporting it to maverick when we are so close to natty release doesn't make sense
[05:25] <ScottK> Please mark in the bug when your PPA is up and running.
[05:25] <kklimonda> ok, will do
[05:26] <ScottK> That's not really a worth a wontfix for maverick, just a wontgetaroundtoit.
[05:29] <ScottK> Done.
[08:47] <dholbach> good morning
[09:14] <Rhonda> Hhmmmm.
[09:14] <Rhonda> If I want a backport of a package in main, is there any difference in the workflow for me, for requesting it?
[09:14] <Laney> no
[09:15] <Laney> :-)
[09:16]  * Rhonda gives it a try and expands her field of work, then. :)
[09:16]  * Rhonda . o O ( but I really should ask for PPU rights to irssi (+ logcheck) anyway … )
[09:48] <Rhonda> If someone wants to give it a try, please test irssi backport to lucid: Bug #734731
[12:08] <Laney> bdrung cody-somerville geser maco persia DMB?
[12:08] <Laney> stgraber too
[12:08] <bdrung> Laney: yes
[12:13] <Laney> no quorum
[12:13] <bdrung> Laney: only the two of us?
[12:13] <directhex> pretend you don't need a quorum, and pass what you want anyway </us political humour>
[12:19] <paultag> directhex: ha!
[14:33] <stgraber> Laney: sorry for that but it's way too early for me ;) I can only make it at the other meeting time
[14:34] <stgraber> Laney: the other meeting time used to be 7am (was still sleeping) and is now 8am (going to the office). If we can't get quorum again at this time, we probably should consider changing it to a time that's more convinient for everyone.
[14:34] <stgraber> as cody-somerville is on the same timezone as I'm, he probably has the same issue (though maybe not the driving to the office part ;))
[14:35] <Laney> stgraber: yes indeed, we seem to be more US balanced now so maybe moving it a bit later is a good move
[14:35] <Laney> US/north america ;-)
[14:36] <stgraber> at least everyone who's in north america is on eastern time, so it should be quite easy to find a time that works for both europe and north america
[14:37] <stgraber> persia is already used to weird meeting times anyway ;)
[14:38] <stgraber> in my case, if it wasn't on a Monday and was just an hour later, it'd work fine and would probably still work for Japan and Europe then
[14:41] <Laney> could you mail the list and set up a doodle poll or something? (don't forget to cc us newbies who aren't on it yet)
[14:42] <stgraber> I can at least e-mail suggesting a change of an hour later and asking if we want to change day as well. Setting up a comprehensive doodle takes quite a bit of time (which I sadly don't have at the moment ...)
[14:42] <Laney> yeah, sure
[14:42] <Laney> I don't know how constrained everyone else is so it's a good start
[16:42] <geser> stgraber: when is DST change in US? so we don't have to repeat it in a few weeks again
[16:42] <micahg> geser: already happened :)
[16:44] <geser> Laney: I'm at work during the 12:00 UTC meeting time, so I'm for a change (if possible). After 18:00 UTC works better for me
[16:47] <Laney> geser: could you make /any/ UTC daytime slots? We should think of applicants who can't make the evening too as well as ourselves
[16:50] <geser> Laney: not really (but it's not a problem if I'm not available for each meeting if you have enough other DMB members for quorum)
[16:51] <Laney> indeed
[16:55] <geser> I can connect now and then to my IRC client but mostly won't have enough time to follow a whole meeting
[16:56] <Laney> could you give your availability in stgraber's thread?
[16:59] <stgraber> geser: it was this weekend
[18:28] <azeem> are there german translations somewhere for the firefox-net PPAs of firefox-4.0 for lucid?
[18:28] <ScottK> azeem: You probabl want #ubuntu-mozillateam.
[18:28] <ScottK>  ..y
[18:28] <azeem> thx
[19:02] <ari-tczew> useful could be a bot which gives an information about FFe if bug request (sync, merge, upgrade) includes new upstream release.
[19:02] <ari-tczew> not automatical bot, but bot which works on developer command
[19:03] <ari-tczew> then bot gives a comment changing status and importance
[19:03] <ari-tczew> unsubscribing sponsors and subscribing release team
[19:03] <ari-tczew> wdyt?


[18:32] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:51] <chilts> morning
[18:52] <Envy0pla> Morning :)
[20:37] <Atamira> morning
[20:43] <ojwb> morning
[21:16] <chilts> so my version of chromium on Lucid is v18 ... it seems I need to upgrade
[21:16] <chilts> but the daily PPA hasn't been updated in ages
[21:17] <chilts> what do other people do to keep Chromium up to date?
[21:18] <hads> morning
[21:19] <ajmitch> morning
[21:20] <ibeardslee> quantal
[21:20] <mwhudson> chilts: not use lucid?
[21:22] <chilts> yeah, I know :)
[21:22] <chilts> actually, maybe Christmas is a good time to upgrade
[21:22] <chilts> (between contracts)
[21:22] <chilts> I have Precise on my other laptop
[21:22] <chilts> but I seem to keep using this one - prefer it a little more
[21:23] <ajmitch> because of unity, or other reasons?
[21:24] <chilts> keyboard layout and yeah, a little with Unity
[21:24] <chilts> though I install XMonad to be honest
[21:24] <chilts> I also usually de-install Network manager and use WICD instead
[21:24] <chilts> and find that everything is so intertwined these days, it's hard to pick and choose
[21:24]  * ajmitch should upgrade the desktop at work, still running lucid
[21:45] <ojwb> hmm, i just discovered how to answer an incoming call on my new mobile
[21:45] <ojwb> this makes me realise how few calls I get...
[21:45] <ojwb> i missed a call the other week because I hadn't realised you need to slide to answer
[22:01] <ibeardslee> heh .. it took me couple of bungled calls to work that out as well


[10:30] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[18:42] <dsudds1963> Afternoon everyone..