[00:00] <tsquar3d> wilee-nilee:  Yeah... the bios won't let me choose legacy.
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> ah, stsrange
[00:00] <smaudet> tsquar3d, yeah you need a legacy boot mode, I can set mine to dual uefi/legacy, which is pretty sweet actually
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> strange*
[00:00] <smaudet> It really shouldn't be called 'legacy', it should be called 'pos'/'awesomeboot'
[00:01] <smaudet> instead of efi/legacy
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, Have you checked for bios updates?
[00:01] <tsquar3d> Isn't there a ia32 uefi remix floating around out there? I have been searching and searching but can't find it... for like any distro.
[00:01] <bekks> tsquar3d: Which ubuntu version do you use?
[00:01] <tsquar3d> wilee-nilee: Well, no, but I just got this beast... but I can see.
[00:01] <smaudet> tsquar3d, so the last time I had to deal with efi was when I triple booted a macbook
[00:02] <smaudet> tsquar3d, and we had this thing called reFind which let you boot bios-based systems
[00:02] <smaudet> including 32-bit systems
[00:02] <smaudet> In fact that's what I used to triple boot 10.6.8/windows xp/ubuntu
[00:02] <GogoPogo> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[00:03] <tsquar3d> smaudet: I have reFIND... it does not show my 13.04 32 bit disk.
[00:03] <tsquar3d> :-(
[00:03] <tsquar3d> It just shows windoze.
[00:03] <smaudet> tsquar3d, yeah, dunno, this is uefi, not efi
[00:03] <Territoriojoven> hi so
[00:03] <smaudet> efi was a nice idea with some problems, uefi I think is the trashy windows implementation
[00:03] <Territoriojoven> i downloaded an iso image but the wubi inside didn't worked, then i tried using the windows installer from the same folder but it's not working
[00:04] <smaudet> at least it seems to be so far
[00:04] <Territoriojoven> now i think i just have to download the same version
[00:04] <Territoriojoven> fuck
[00:04] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, this is a family friendly channel
[00:04] <Territoriojoven> aw
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> !language  Territoriojoven
[00:04] <compdoc> uefi is still evolving. the gui is improving
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> !language | Territoriojoven
[00:05] <eein> kostkon: well at least it asked me if i want to run the plugin but no go with pipelight, thanks anyway
[00:05] <smaudet> 'still evolving' - you got that right
[00:05] <kostkon> eein, np
[00:05] <smaudet> I suppose bios used to have some nasty bugs too
[00:06] <smaudet> efi was actually decent, but that's because there was only one company involved
[00:06] <eein> dell custom crippled bios is a fav
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, wubi is a wasye of time you have to use its downloader in windows.
[00:06] <tsquar3d> Yeah... it kinda makes me want to hurt things.
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> waste*
[00:06] <Territoriojoven> yes but
[00:06] <Territoriojoven> i first downloaded the iso thinking it was the only wait
[00:06] <Territoriojoven> way*
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> then i found out there was a windows installer, and that my iso wouldn't work
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, You have to do research.
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> but then that i could use both windows installer and iso together
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> but it didn't worked
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> so now im downloading what i hope is the right version to use with the installer.
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, does not work in uefi, is that the situation.
[00:07] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, that definitely not the case, use them together
[00:07] <kostkon> that's
[00:09] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, wubi currently won't work properly on win8 installations, what is your windows ver?
[00:09] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, try again booting the iso
[00:10] <Territoriojoven> kostkon: win xp
[00:10] <Territoriojoven> and no, too late for the iso now.
[00:10] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, :/
[00:10] <Territoriojoven> hue
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, XP is end o\f life in about 200 days
[00:26] <Johnny_Linux> thats when everyone should drop win a;ll together
[00:26] <Johnny_Linux> argentina gov is about to provide all gov a ubuntu disc and forget windoze
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> !ot | Johnny_Linux
[00:27] <Johnny_Linux> knock it off wilee-nilee  , there are mmany others as well as you that ocassionally make comments, go bully some one esle
[00:32] <startthink> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !ot | startthink
[00:33] <startthink> ok
[00:34] <yougothax0rd> Hello, I am currently having severe problems after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10.
[00:34] <yougothax0rd> Anyone care to help?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> !details | yougothax0rd
[00:36] <adymitruk> How do I add another lo adapter with <IP_ADDRESS>?
[00:37] <adymitruk> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:38] <deanspeed> I need to install Ubuntu on an external hdd from windows, so I was going to use the windows ubuntu installer, then I noticed it started downloading the 64bit version. Is there any way to tell it to download the 32bit? I need to be able to run it on a 32bit machine.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> deanspeed, Not gonna run very well I would use a usb flash.
[00:39] <adymitruk> ?
[00:39] <daftykins> deanspeed: WUBI? that's a really, really bad idea
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> deanspeed, A wubi on a external?
[00:39] <meltingwax> how can i find the hardware model / vendor of my machine from the command line?
[00:39] <deanspeed> really? hmm...
[00:39] <smaudet> Johnny_Linux, no need to be rude about it, but you are right
[00:40] <smaudet> Johnny_Linux, however usually those people are here for a support question, I think that's why he !ot'ed you
[00:41] <yougothax0rd> Ok. I have a problem with booting into Ubuntu. I can use the GRUB loader and use recovery mode, but I either get a blank, black screen trying to boot into Ubuntu 12.10 or it goes into tty1. After I login in tty1 it says "Welcome to Ubuntu etc, etc" and goes into Terminal. If helpful, here hae the specs of my computer, a Toshiba L885 s5372: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/satellite_L855-S5372
[00:41] <Johnny_Linux> he just like to throw his weight around, im almost 60 yrs old, im a pretty good judge of character by now, with that, i will sit back quiet. thanks.
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | yougothax0rd this a nvidia?
[00:41] <yougothax0rd> No, it runs Intel HD 4000 graphics.
[00:41] <yougothax0rd> It has no discrete GPU
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, Ah that is problematic as I have read.
[00:42] <smaudet> yougothax0rd, try turning up the brightness
[00:42] <smaudet> I have the exact same problem
[00:42] <smaudet> it is a backlight bug
[00:43] <yougothax0rd> turning brightness up or down works just fine
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, 12.04 has 5 years support if that works I would use 12.4.3 it gas the raring kernel.
[00:43] <smaudet> yougothax0rd, so what's the problem? Maybe I'm confused - I have an Intel HD 4000 as well
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> has*
[00:43] <yougothax0rd> how do I backdate my system, then?
[00:44] <yougothax0rd> I have a 12.04 Live CD
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, You can't down grade, this is when an image would have been a good idea
[00:44] <yougothax0rd> That's fine. I already have all my data backed up lol
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, If you go back to 12.04 get the latest download is all.
[00:45] <yougothax0rd> Ok than you.
[00:45] <yougothax0rd> *thank
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[00:45] <yougothax0rd> btw, if I upgrade to 13.04 will the problem still persist?
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, Not sure myself.
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, There are many threads on askubuntu on that graphic, might be worth looking.
[00:47] <yougothax0rd> Will do. I'm still new to Ubuntu/Linux in general haha. Still trying to get the hang of things
[00:47] <smaudet> yougothax0rd, again I have an Intel HD 4000 integrated card, seems to work just fine here on 13.04
[00:47] <Territoriojoven> so, i finished ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64 but the wubi is not taking it
[00:47] <yougothax0rd> Once again, thanks for your help.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, Are you trying wubi because you are forced to, or is this a choice?
[00:48] <Territoriojoven> i thought it was the easiest option
[00:48] <Territoriojoven> torrent is fastewr
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, Not even, forst your XP will be eol in 200 dyas or so, and wubi is only for trying out in lieu of a install, and has very little support I only know of one user who does support.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> first*
[00:50] <Territoriojoven> wat
[00:51] <startthink> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking.
[00:52] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[00:55] <Zutara> Hi. I'm having an issue with mounting my Flash Drive. The commands in the pastebin here [http://pastebin.com/pGJzuXxN] are ones I've tried using to rectify it. It was working fine ~5 hours ago....
[00:55] <Zutara> Anyone got any ideas?
[00:55] <Zutara> I'm running Elementary OS tw.
[00:55] <Zutara> *btw
[00:56] <bekks> Zutara: Then please refer to the ElementaryOS support, this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[00:57] <Zutara> I have. I just figured since Elementary is based off of Ubuntu you guys might be able to help me out. I'm currently waiting for a response from #elementary.
[00:57] <fellayaboy> hey if i wanted to install ubuntu minimal onto my usb...i should burn the disk and run the live install and isntead of using my hard drive choose my usb?
[00:57] <Territoriojoven> do I just wait? http://i.imgur.com/0dHNs4U.png
[00:57] <fellayaboy> to install?
[00:57] <Ari-Yang> fellayaboy, I recommend to just make a bootable USB for installing ubuntu on a computer....
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> fellayaboy, if you're on windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:58] <fellayaboy> no i wont want to install onto computer..
[00:59] <fellayaboy> i want to run it live but i want to be able to save all my data
[00:59] <fellayaboy> like bookmarks..terminal programs... etc
[00:59] <Zutara> fellayaboy, Then yes, install it to the USB when you run the install on the Live disk.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, The minimal is a install, not a live environment, and as of 12.10 the net install.
[01:00] <fellayaboy> oohhh
[01:00] <satmandu> Is anybody having issues with console-kit-daemon taking up huge amounts of real memory?
[01:00] <fellayaboy> darn it
[01:00] <satmandu> from top: 1871 root      20   0 4090m 3940 2812 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.25 console-kit-dae  << That's 4Gb!
[01:01] <fellayaboy> is their a live terminal based usb os based of ubuntu/debian?
[01:01] <fellayaboy> where i can save my programs that i installed
[01:02] <fellayaboy> i dont want to use the offical live cd cuz some computer crap out and wont run the ubuntu live so i want to stay away from it
 do I just wait? http://i.imgur.com/0dHNs4U.png
[01:03] <nanashi> Ew wubi.
[01:03] <DarthEaron> hi eveyone!!!
[01:03] <Zutara> Yo.
[01:05] <logic5> is the ubuntu repository server down
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> logic5, there are many repos
 <Territoriojoven> do I just wait? http://i.imgur.com/0dHNs4U.png
[01:07] <Zutara> How long's it been since you've started it Territoriojoven
[01:07] <Territoriojoven> 15 minutes
[01:07] <Territoriojoven> at least
[01:08] <Zutara> Has the time gone down since you started?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, The one user I know of that is the only real support for wubi is on the ubuntu forums.
[01:09] <Territoriojoven> i don't understand
[01:09] <Territoriojoven> did you all installled from a cd or usb?
[01:09] <Zutara> I installed from USB.
[01:10] <Territoriojoven> ugh
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, wubi is not hardly used.
[01:10] <Zutara> But have done so from CD in the past.
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> if you want to install ubuntu and have it replace windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:10] <logic5> when trying to install or update apt-get stuff i get errors when updating i get: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:11] <logic5> anyone have ideas of what it is
[01:11] <Zutara> Your sources file is messed up.
[01:11] <logic5> any stuff i can read about fixing the source file?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> logic5, change the repo maybe
[01:11] <Zutara> Have you added any new ones recently?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> logic5, there is #ubuntu-server if needed
[01:12] <logic5> zutara not that i receall but i did use a few commands copy past without really giving thought
[01:12] <logic5> thanks wilee-nilee and i like the name
[01:14] <sb057> is hexchat in the repos yet
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> sb057, there is a ppa
[01:15] <Ari-Yang> sb057, not in ubuntu's repos, but yeah, there is a ppa
[01:15] <kostkon> !find hexchat
[01:15] <amptrofa> I have a question about building something from source when i need the -dev package as well... can anyone help me?
[01:15] <Ari-Yang> sb057, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[01:15] <Zutara> logic5, search the ubuntu forums for 'Fix broken sources file'.
[01:16] <reisio> it's a fork of xchat, just use xchat until hexchat replaces it
[01:16] <Zutara> That's how I fixed mine back when i had problems upgrading packages.
[01:16] <reisio> the differences at present are quite minimal
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> uh no, if you want to use hexchat, jump on the wagon, sb057
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> just add the ppa and apt-get hexchat
[01:18] <sb057> I was just asking for a friend
[01:18] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[01:18] <sb057> Ive been using HexChat since release
[01:20] <kristenbb> hi, i'm trying to setup a key based auth ssh, but it's not working. I did the procedure a  long time ago so I'm not sure what I did anymore, but I think I just tried to use ssh-keygen and then copy the .pub into the remote host's authorized_keys file. -vvv shows publickey auth is failing.  What could be wrong ?
[01:21] <kristenbb> I also tried ssh-copy-id but it still asks  me for a password.
[01:23] <Kalel> Greetings folks.. My today's doubt is: How can i make my Raring change to headphones automaticallly when I plug a jack adaptor? I always have to go in the 'sound configurations' and change it.. A little frustating.
[01:25] <ancaster> kristenbb, it may be that the permissions set on your home folder or ~/.ssh folder aren't correct
[01:26] <dion> why don't have have root or "sudo" access in my GUI windows?
[01:26] <ancaster> iirc, they can't be world read/writeable, and your .ssh can only be user read/writeable
[01:26] <urgodfather> hello room, does anyone in here use jdownloader?
[01:26] <dion> how can I get this access?
[01:27] <kostkon> Kalel, what's the sound card
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> urgodfather, there's #jDownloader
[01:27] <ChogyDan> dion: which gui window?  Is this just browsing files?
[01:27] <dion> ChogyDan: I am trying to drag a zip file onto an external SD car
[01:28] <dion> and I get a permission denied error
[01:28] <urgodfather> Ari-Yang: im in there too, keep in the devs live in Germany so they are probably asleep
[01:28] <Kalel> kostkon: I'm using hda, my hardware is pretty new, supports beats audio. Running alsamixer as well..
[01:28] <kostkon> Kalel, this is usually a hardware issue
[01:29] <fellayaboy> why is their 3 dvds in debian torrent
[01:29] <reisio> fellayaboy: it's basically all the software you can install on Debian, not just the OS
[01:29] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, why ask #ubuntu?  ask debian.
[01:29] <reisio> fellayaboy: if you want just the OS, you'd want CD1 alone, or any of the netinstall images
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, this is ubuntu not debian
[01:30] <fellayaboy> sorry wrong channel
[01:30] <Kalel> kostkon: Can't I change something in the respective file to make it change automatically?
[01:31] <kostkon> Kalel, what's the output of:  aplay -l   paste it .e.g. on pastebin.com
[01:31] <urgodfather> another question... i have a system at work that we loaded with ubuntu... backlight doesnt work out of the box, but after forcing it on via terminal, it works.. how to set so it will at boot i.e. from grub?
[01:31] <ChogyDan> dion: I don't really know the real fix, but I suppose you can do gksu nautilus <location>
[01:32] <kristenbb> ancaster: the permissions seem right, what else could be the problem?
[01:32] <dion> ChogyDan: whats nautilus?
[01:32] <ChogyDan> dion: it's the program where you can drag and drop files
[01:33] <Kalel> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/iM8xUgK8
[01:33] <ancaster> kristenbb, try running ssh with -v. Messages there might help explain why
[01:34] <kristenbb> I tried -vvv but didn't find anything weird
[01:34] <ancaster> kristenbb: can also use -vv when desperate.  post your output somewhere and we'll have a look.
[01:34] <craigbass1976> I'm hunting on the forums for sna-dc (a model number) and getting everything but what I'm looking for.  Is ther a way on the forums to search for an exact term only?
[01:35] <Zutara> Hi. Need help with mounting a flash drive. I got it mounted to /mnt but then I unmounted it and mounted it to sudo mount /dev/sdd1 / and am now unable to unmount it. Terminal says it's busy. Can I just unplug it and plug it back in?
[01:35] <kostkon> Kalel, bug 580233
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> Zutara, YOur OS is not supported here
[01:36] <Kalel> Thank you, kostkon. I'm reading about this issue..
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> Zutara, try #elementary
[01:37] <kristenbb> ancaster: found it, couldnt ssh into the remote without logging in first because the home is encrypted.
[01:37] <ancaster> ah
[01:37] <bwayne> a moment ago i lost ability to play sound. i did my usual debug routine (google, etc). finally i decided to do the "rescue system" from the ubuntu cd. was it coincidence or did the system rescue actually fix my sound?
[01:37] <bwayne> is it designed to perform that sort of fix?
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[01:38] <Kalel> kostkon: Apparently has not a fix..
[01:38] <ancaster> kristenbb: never dealt with this situation... when you say "log in", I suppose you mean log in via password?
[01:39] <Zutara> wilee-nilee, I'm in there now, but there's only 1/10 the amount of people as compared to here. Figured I'd come here and get support as Elementary is based off of 12.10.
[01:39] <kostkon> Kalel, you could try adding the quirk in alsa base conf and then reboot
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Zutara, understandable except it is not supported here is all, look up mounting your command is wrong
[01:40] <Kalel> kostkon: How can I do it?
[01:40] <kostkon> Kalel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/580233/comments/8
[01:40] <Zutara> OK.
[01:41] <kostkon> Kalel, just open the file like this:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf or if that does not work, give sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  then press ctrl+x to save it.
[01:41] <ancaster> kristenbb: just reading up on this. one solution is to force sshd to look in an unencrypted folder for your key files
[01:42] <Kalel> kostkon: Just open and close?
[01:42] <kostkon> Kalel, add the lines first obviously :P
[01:42] <kostkon> Kalel, the 3 lines of the quirk
[01:42] <kostkon> Kalel, then save the file, then close the editor and then reboot your system
[01:43] <Kalel> kostkon: I will try follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules  - To update the modules.
[01:43] <kostkon> Kalel, no. try the quirk first. don't overcomplicate it
[01:44] <Kalel> ok
[01:44] <kostkon> Kalel, just add these 3 lines in the conf file.
[01:44] <kostkon> those, im not gonna paste them here ok :P
[01:45] <kostkon> Kalel, what's the laptop model
[01:45] <Freeder> Hi, I'd love to get some ideas on an implementation question we have- I'm looking to implement a cron file that checks if a process is running, and restarts it if it is not. Should that code be 100% contained in the cron file, or should the cron file call another script that checks if it is running, and then call the actual execution file- what are your thoughts on the pros and cons?
[01:45] <Kalel> kostkon: HP Pavilion DV6 6190
[01:45] <Kalel> kostkon: BR for me, and US for your
[01:46] <kostkon> Kalel, good, im talking about these lines
[01:46] <kostkon> #Quirks for dv6-2170us
[01:46] <kostkon> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[01:46] <kostkon> alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
[01:46] <kostkon> options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 enable_msi=1
[01:46] <ssfdre38> what is better PPTP or L2TP
[01:46] <kostkon> you made me flood the channel :/
[01:46] <bwayne> Freeder: having the cron file call the script is how I approach it.
[01:46] <ssfdre38> if you say openVPN, i have that already
[01:47] <ancaster> Freeder: same. then you can test your script without having to monkey with cron
[01:47] <kostkon> Kalel, br us what?
[01:48] <Kalel> :-) Thank you kostkon. I will reboot to try. -- Is to sufix of the model line. BR is Brazil and US for United States. Therefore, the same PC
[01:48] <kostkon> Kalel, add the suffix where exactly?
[01:48] <Freeder> bwayne: so the cron file would just be 'bash checkproc.sh' , and do everything in checkproc.sh, not checkproc.cron ?
[01:48] <kostkon> Kalel, oh ok ok
[01:48] <Freeder> and ancaster ^ :)
[01:49] <bwayne> Freeder: let me check mine real quick.
[01:49] <Kalel> kostkon: HP's thing.. Eg. dv6 6190br - dv6 6190us - Just the country...
[01:49] <Freeder> the original plan was to have checkproc.cron contain {is code running, if yes exit, if no restart}, but the new plan is to have checkproc.cron contain {isitrunning.sh && restartcode.sh} ... does that agree with what you're saying?
[01:49] <Kalel> kostkon: Thank you again.
[01:49] <kostkon> Kalel, yeah got it. sorry about that
[01:49] <ancaster> ancaster: yes.  and if you make your shell script executable and have the magic first line, then you don't need to call bash
[01:50] <kostkon> Kalel, no probs
[01:50] <ancaster> Freeder: I'm now talking to myself, it seems. :-)
[01:50] <Freeder> I saw :P
[01:50] <Freeder> ok.
[01:51] <Freeder> still anxious to see what bwayne has as well
[01:52] <mitch-_> how do i make a bootable usb of NOT ubuntu from within ubuntu
[01:52] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, you mean a different distro?
[01:52] <mitch-_> of anything
[01:52] <mitch-_> i have SBS2011 that i nee dto make a bootable usb
[01:52] <bwayne> Freeder: yeah, that's what I'm doing. I've got a 'start_daemon' script which takes nice parameters etc as well as the name of the command.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> mitch-_ handfuls of usb loaders
[01:52] <mitch-_> i have the ISO and i need to make bootable
[01:52] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, linux usb can usually be done with unetbootin
[01:52] <bwayne> Freeder: i'm hardly add things to cron so I always have to go back and check how I'm doing it. :)
[01:53] <Freeder> no worries
[01:53] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, any will work. one that is quick and easy
[01:53] <Freeder> but now i wonder if i misspoke
[01:53] <mitch-_> unetbootin, i'm even ok with CLI but. i need to expand the iso onto the USB i guess
[01:53] <Freeder> when I said cron file, that is what we refer to it here as... not a crontab file
[01:53] <mitch-_> is unetbootin free?
[01:54] <mitch-_> slash easy?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, yes/yes
[01:54] <Freeder> bwayne: do you call start_daemon from your crontab? or do you call a script, which then calls start_daemon?
[01:54] <mitch-_> you win
[01:54] <mitch-_> apt-get'ing now
[01:54] <mitch-_> :D
[01:54] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, and you do NOT expand the iso.  unetbootin will copy it over and set up the USB for booting
[01:54] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, thank you!
[01:54] <mitch-_> haha
[01:55] <mitch-_> i like the capital "not"
[01:55] <mitch-_> basically a "don't do that moron!"
[01:55] <mitch-_> i was using that as a term.... a way of explaining how my mind sees it
[01:55] <bwayne> Freeder: start_daemon is a script itself. So I use cron to call a script, in essence.
[01:55] <mitch-_> "derp" basically
[01:55] <Freeder> right
[01:56] <deitarion> Does anyone here know how to get enable the network cgroups support on 12.04 LTS? I'm told it'll let me virtualize routing tables but all the instructions I've found for setting up cgroups just assume that the default loadout will include whatever cgroups functionality the guide covers.
[01:57] <Freeder> so the argument/discussion we're having now is, should the script called by cron have all the check and restart code in it, or should it call {checkprocess.sh && restartprocess.sh}
[01:57] <mitch-_> so it definitely freaked me out with the distro part but i think it does seem fairly easy......
[01:57] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, you win!
[01:57] <mitch-_> well
[01:57] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, not to worry, just wanted to make sure.  unetbootin is pretty much point and shoot.
[01:57] <mitch-_> you win an e-hug
[01:57] <mitch-_> *hug*
[01:57]  * cfhowlett ... le blush
[01:57] <mitch-_> haha
[01:57] <Kalel> kostkon: Hey, worked, changed to headphones when plugged, Otherwise, I've to change manually to 'Surround' from 'Stereo' or doesn't work..
[01:58] <kostkon> Kalel, hmm, it should remember that choice. try again now that you have set it to stereo
[01:58] <bwayne> Freeder: my implementation would be a single script which first tests the process to see if it exists and then to launch the process if it isn't.
[01:58] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, so this will boot on a winders machine righT?
[01:58] <mitch-_> i plug it in, it's a "bootable usb" and goes on from there
[01:58] <Kalel> kostkon: I changed to surround. Default is stereo.
[01:59] <Freeder> bwayne: thank you.
[01:59] <fellayaboy> i wanna install ubuntu onto a usb drive...how can i have it so that ubuntu boots in terminal first
[01:59] <kostkon> Kalel, oh yeah i misread
[01:59] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, bootable is bootable.  the machine doesn't care if it's windows or not so longs as it's bootable.  BUT you do need to tell the machine to boot the USB and not from the HD
[01:59] <kostkon> Kalel, it's beats headphones afterall :P
[01:59] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, PS - You should put these instructions on the internet. because "The Google' has nothing for how to make a simple Bootable USB.....
[01:59] <mitch-_> yeah i know that part
[01:59] <Freeder> ancaster ^^ does that match what you said? I think you said have the script called by crontab, call two seperate scripts
[01:59] <cfhowlett> !usb|mitch-
[02:00] <mitch-_> i meant that the OS iso behind the bootable will boot fine. but ok. cool
[02:00] <Kalel> kostkon: Yes...
[02:00] <mitch-_> ubottu, day late and a dollar short mr ubottu, domo-oro-gottu (mr ubottu??)
[02:00] <mitch-_> yessssssssss
[02:01] <ancaster> freeder: nope, just one script. so yes, matches what bwayne does
[02:01] <fellayaboy> is it safe to install ubuntu on a usb stick?
[02:01] <Freeder> thanks
[02:01] <fellayaboy> or will i experience alot of crashes
[02:01] <Freeder> that means I'm right.
[02:01] <Freeder> :)
[02:01] <ancaster> :-)
[02:01] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  i do that all the time
[02:01] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, seriously. thank you. life saver
[02:01] <ancaster> what could go wrong?
[02:01] <Kalel> kostkon: I think I should update the modules..
[02:01] <dr_willis> no crashs here
[02:02] <ancaster> (go wrong... go wrong...)
[02:02] <Freeder> any reasoning as to why that method is better than the one script calling two script method?
[02:02] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, have fun, be safe
[02:02] <Kalel> Doesn't work nothing now.
[02:02] <kostkon> Kalel, ok, if you think it is needed
[02:02] <fellayaboy> dr_willis but im not talking about an installer.. or a live usb.... im talking about completely intalling using the ubunt installer...
[02:02] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, worst thing could be your usb crashes.  rare but possible.  get a new one.
[02:02] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  i do that all the time     .... a full normal  install
[02:02] <Kalel> kostkon: yep.. I can try. Its reversible anyway.
[02:02] <fellayaboy> oh ok cool
[02:02] <ancaster> freeder: no, but unless i need to, i'll just keep things simple in one script
[02:03] <kostkon> Kalel, go for it then ok
[02:03] <ancaster> easy enough to refactor into two scripts later if needed
[02:03] <fellayaboy> which distro is the best ...where the windows environment is super light... idk if unity will hold up on some pc's i ahve
[02:03] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[02:03] <fellayaboy> nice
[02:04] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, lubuntu and xubuntu are both optimized for lower spec and older machines
[02:04] <dr_willis> thats the lighest desktop
[02:04] <fellayaboy> nice
[02:04] <dr_willis> xubuntu has more features
[02:04] <fellayaboy> thank you so much..ok so how can i set it up after installation to boot into terminal environment first...and if i enter X it will boot up x environment
[02:04] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, and xubuntu is the foundation of ubuntustudio, mature
[02:04] <dr_willis> !text
[02:04] <fellayaboy> cool thanks cfhowlett
[02:05] <fellayaboy> nice thank u
[02:05] <Kalel> kostkon: There we go. Soon I'll come to tell.
[02:06] <kostkon> Kalel, wish you the best :P
[02:06] <Kalel> kostkon: Same fella.
[02:06] <fellayaboy> u too kalel
[02:07] <Kalel> kostkon: same to you.. ^
[02:07] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, NEVER! mauhahahhahahahahahahaah *beer induced rampage!* *eats sandwich*
[02:07] <Kalel> hehe..
[02:07] <fellayaboy> lol
[02:07] <kostkon> Kalel, ;)
[02:07] <bwayne> Freeder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6135344/
[02:07]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "Sir, step away from the espresso!"
[02:08] <bwayne> Freeder: taken from Archlinux wiki
[02:08] <Freeder> thanks
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> the caffeinated user
[02:09] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, not sure that wasn't a Team Fortress 2 references @ "sandwich"
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> ah I'm not a gamer, over or under my head. ;)
[02:11] <mitch-_> no guys.... i just made a sandwich
[02:11] <mitch-_> i'm fixing an SBS2011 server so i needed a bootable USB
[02:11] <mitch-_> and ubuntu left me hangin on that one
[02:11] <mitch-_> you saved the day
[02:11] <mitch-_> i've had a few beers so
[02:11] <mitch-_> i made a sandwich
[02:11] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, wait, SERVER?  ubuntu-server for the win!
[02:11] <mitch-_> ham
[02:11] <FloodBot1> mitch-_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <mitch-_> ha
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|mitch-_,
[02:12] <mitch-_> D: a flood. you BIATCH! D:
[02:13] <mitch-_> and. ham
[02:13] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, sadly no... this is a winders server. :(
[02:14] <mitch-_> i like ubuntu as a backend much better. i run it daily but. for his business..... SBS made more sense
[02:21] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, agh that didn't work.... any other suggestion?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, unetbootin failed?  disappointing.  ask again in channel but be aware the question itself is heretical ...
[02:22] <mitch-_> well. it made a bootable disc but the ISO behind it failed
[02:22] <mitch-_> so
[02:22] <mitch-_> it says "bootable USB" and then you boot to it and it just sais "unetbootin"
[02:22] <mitch-_> and i said D:
[02:22] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, best to use windows to make the disk.  There IS a windows usb tool from micro$oft online
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> mitch-_, What is the distro on the iso?
[02:23] <aeaglez> its a image file
[02:24] <mitch-_> wilee-nilee, aeaglez yeah. it's just an ISO
[02:24] <mitch-_> it's not a distro
[02:24] <mitch-_> :|
[02:24] <mitch-_> it's an ISO of Small Business Sever 2011.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> mitch-_, image of, and what format?
[02:25] <aeaglez> oh by the way wilee-nilee, thank you for the help last time i got the internet working very smoothly
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:25] <mitch-_> wilee-nilee, Small Business Server 2011 Standard and...... format is ISO of the disc
[02:26] <Codex_> hello
[02:26] <mitch-_> hi
[02:26] <Codex_> I need help installing the raid drivers on ubuntu
[02:26] <cfhowlett> codex, greetings
[02:26] <mitch-_> codex, bye
[02:26] <codex> different codex
[02:26] <mitch-_> jp
[02:26] <cfhowlett> codex, raid is usually a server type thing ...   #ubuntu-server
[02:26] <Codex_> I have two disks in raid 0 and need to get data off them
[02:27] <codex> Codex_: ^ please don't piss off the bots b/c I get to hear about it later :)
[02:27] <Codex_> ?
[02:27] <mitch-_> Codex_, he's a bot too. ignore him
[02:27] <Codex_> ok lol
[02:28] <aeaglez> lol
[02:28] <codex> Codex_: #ubuntu: <@FloodBot1> Codex_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't  use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <codex> stuff like that
[02:28] <Codex_> what?
[02:28] <Codex_> was this earlier?
[02:28] <codex> yes
[02:28] <Espresso2> How to talk to HOT women and get their number fast! http://c1003644-5fz4qezqzo5ny0e00.hop.clickbank.net/
[02:29] <Codex_> like yesterday?
[02:29] <codex> sound right
[02:29] <codex> for some reason I get a lot of your conversations ;)
[02:29] <Codex_> so im guessing your not a bot?
[02:29] <aeaglez> ruby is the programming language for ubuntu right?
[02:29] <aeaglez> ruby and python?
[02:29] <codex> no i am not  a bot...
[02:29] <Codex_> haha ok
[02:32] <Codex_> does any one here know what packages I need for raid?
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !raid
[02:34] <Codex_> cheers
[02:34] <Codex_> im guessing I need the software raid
[02:34] <reisio> Codex_: what do you want raid for?
[02:35] <Codex_> I have 2 SSDs in raid 0 and need to mount them
[02:36] <reisio> why do you have 2 ssds in raid 0
[02:37] <codex> Codex_: mdadm
[02:37] <Codex_> windows is installed on them but I have been locked out and need to modify bootloader
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> the windows bootloader from ubuntu?
[02:38] <Codex_> no, windows 8 BCD
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> from ubuntu?
[02:38] <Codex_> yes
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> bad idea
[02:39] <mitch-_> LOL
[02:39] <Codex_> I can run freeBCD in wine to fix it
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Codex_, not adviseable
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Codex_, suggest you use windows tools to fix windows
[02:39] <Codex_> codex: will mdadm mean I can mount raid volumes?
[02:40] <Codex_> cfhowlett: haha tried that
[02:40] <codex> Codex_: yes unless they were encrypted
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> I must say I think I have seen it all now, lol
[02:40] <codex> or if they use some jbod crap
[02:41] <Codex_> ok, I just install mdadm package right?
[02:41] <codex> Codex_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1776909
[02:41] <codex> take a look at that. Same problem that you are trying to solve
[02:42] <Codex_> ok thanks
[02:42] <codex> some people claim it can't be done -- and maybe that's new to windows 8
[02:44] <Codex_> ah
[02:44] <codex> it doesn't hurt to try. As long as you don't write anything to the mount (or mount in read-only) you can't screw it up
[02:45] <Codex_> ok
[02:46] <Spart> hello
[02:46] <siriusy> hi all
[02:46] <Codex_> how do I find out the name of the md device
[02:47] <mitch-_> media device?
[02:47] <mitch-_> Codex_, try lspci
[02:48] <codex>  probably /dev/md0, md1, etc...
[02:48] <Spart> I've got a question.  I'm trying to set up a dual-boot with Win8 via a USB drive, but when I try to install, I'm told I don't have any other OS on the machine.  I rebooted and checked my Win8 still works.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Spart
[02:49] <Codex_> so,   mdadm --assemble /dev/mdo, /dev/md1
[02:49] <Codex_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6135444/
[02:50] <mitch-_> she got the POWA of the hooche!  I got the feva for the flava of the COOCHA!!!!
[02:51] <mitch-_> yeah 90
[02:51] <codex> Codex_: see pm
[02:51] <mitch-_> 's.... damn fat fingers.... sorry about that.
[02:51] <Spart> ubottu:  I've already got it booted.  It's when it asks me to how to install I only have two options: erase disk and install, and something else.  There's no side-by-side option.
[02:52] <MsSayian> Where does the configurations for the network get stored if you use the Network Manager GUI?
[02:52] <moorvogi> hay all. a couple days ago i installed ssmtp and i think i screwed somethng up. now i get emails about every 20 minutes but dont see it in the crontab. anyone know how to figure out whats causing it based on the emails?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> Spart, did you read the bots link?
[02:52] <Spart> Sorry wilee-nilee:  I've already got it booted.  It's when it asks me to how to install I only have two options: erase disk and install, and something else.  There's no side-by-side option.
[02:52] <Spart> Ya.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Spart, then you are not setup correctly
[02:53] <Spart> It's in the dialogue - first pic - that I don't get three options.
[02:53] <Spart> Okay, so what's wrong then?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Spart, Are you aware that you have uefi and it is gpt?
[02:54] <Spart> I thought I had BIOS?
[02:54] <MsSayian> @moorvogi is it still sending emails currently like right now as i am typing?
[02:55] <moorvogi> @MsSayian yes, i'll get one w/in the next 20 minutes
[02:55] <MsSayian> @moorvogi. Is this for home use or enterprise use?
[02:56] <moorvogi> @MsSayian /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 899: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[02:56] <moorvogi> home. i have a lab setup at home. learning how things work
[02:56] <moorvogi> haha failing. .but learning :P
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Spart, you do it is different with uefi though, and uefi is not really many peoples forte here, certainly not mine, I would suggest reading the link and looking at this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[02:56] <MsSayian> @moorvogi run a service --status-all and see if sendmail if running if it is turn it off.
[02:57] <Spart> wilee-nilee:  Okay, thanks.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> Spart, do yourself a favor and backup the W8 if it means anything to you first.
[02:57] <moorvogi> @MsSayian the [ + ] indicates it's running?
[02:58] <moorvogi> @mssayian i ran service sendmail stop and it says it's stopping but i ran the status again and it still has the + by it ><
[02:59] <MsSayian> hmmmmm
[02:59] <moorvogi>  * Stopping Mail Transport Agent (MTA) sendmail                          [ OK ]
[02:59] <moorvogi> but retains the +
[02:59] <MsSayian> @moorvogi I going to think maybe a child process went bad
[03:00] <moorvogi> tick.. hehe just got another one :P
[03:00] <moorvogi> email is.. Cron <smmsp@hostname> test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp
[03:02] <MsSayian> @moorvogi so you made a cron script to send the mail, and it will turn the service on to send the mail based upon the setting. I believe you have it setup as that.
[03:02] <urzg> MsSayian, hi
[03:02] <MsSayian> @urzg hi?
[03:03] <moorvogi> fair enough, but i'm not seeing anything in crontab -e ahh but i see one in /etc/init.d..
[03:04] <MsSayian> @moorvoogi you said every 20 minutes right
[03:04] <moorvogi> it seemed like it yah
[03:04] <moorvogi> we'll know in.. 16 minutes
[03:04] <urzg> moorvogi,  are you Indian/
[03:04] <urzg> ?
[03:05] <moorvogi> i KNOW it was more than 1 hour
[03:05] <urzg> moor seems Indian :p
[03:05] <moorvogi> no.. born in iowa
[03:05] <moorvogi> moorvogi == i go vroom .. spelled backwards
[03:05] <urzg> ahh
[03:05] <moorvogi> motorcycle rider :D
[03:05] <urzg> :D
[03:05] <MsSayian> @moorvogi i would say check the /etc/cron and check daily hourly monthly and weekly
[03:06] <MsSayian> @moorvogi see what is in there find your script and delete it.
[03:06] <MsSayian> @moorvogi if it is a root crontab script you need to sudo crontab -e
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[03:06] <moorvogi> see.. i dont recall making one haha thats the tricky part. it's not in sudo crontab -e though
[03:06] <moorvogi> i'll check the /etc/init...
[03:07] <MsSayian> @moorvogi check the daily hourly monthly and weekly within /etc for cron as well
[03:08] <moorvogi> this ubuntu is.. about 24 hours old. only init, init.d and initramfs-tools  no other folders yielded from ll | grep init in /etc
[03:08] <ancaster> hey all. What's the best practice around having a localadmin user that's able to login when NIS goes down?
[03:08] <MsSayian> @moorvogi and if im reading your script correctly try running a locate for cron-msp
[03:08] <ancaster> just adding a local user to my box doesn't work... logins still hang for a good several minutes
[03:09] <moorvogi> nada. no cron-msp
[03:10] <MsSayian> @moorvogi run a top to see what process is calling sendmail, maybe if you didnt kill the root process it is still spawning child processes to send mail
[03:13] <moorvogi> @MsSayian i'm runnin top but, i'm not really sure how to tell what is calling sendmail (though i dont see sendmail in the list eaither) (hitting google quick)
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> MsSayian, moorvogi Might help to know you can tab complete nicks here, @ is not commonly used.
[03:14] <moorvogi> SWEET MOTHER!
[03:14] <MsSayian> @moorvogi or the last option if it really isnt working my last idea killall sendmail. Thanks wilee-nilee I'm not used to the irc here my other irc didnt support it.
[03:15] <MsSayian> moorvogi:  or killall cron or crontab i forgot how it is ran
[03:16] <gauranga_> urzg: hola
[03:16] <urzg> hey
[03:17] <urzg> gauranga im testing if pm is owrking
[03:17] <urzg> working
[03:17] <urzg> can u reply
[03:17] <urzg> ?
[03:17] <FloodBot1> urzg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <gauranga_> its working
[03:17] <urzg> ok
[03:20] <xeeder> hi there, i have been using ubuntu 12.04 LTS for the last couple of days on my laptop and one thing which i have noticed is that: the battery timing sucks!!
[03:20] <moorvogi> MsSayian: no joy but i'll keep digging to see what else it might be. fun times!
[03:20] <xeeder> is there anything i can do? like power save in windows (in power settings) or something like that?
[03:21] <xeeder> please help
[03:21] <MsSayian> moorvogi: Those where my only answers.
[03:21] <moorvogi> MsSayian: more than i had 20 minutes ago. thanks for trying!
[03:21] <josephmudloff> xeeder: have you read the pm-utils documentation?
[03:21] <xeeder> no; should i? josephmudloff
[03:22] <josephmudloff> Yes! -- Or, even do a google search for pm-utils usage.
[03:22] <MsSayian> xeeder: If you click on the dash home and if you type system settings you can edit when you can send and what you can do when the power is low. Also go to the brightness and lock tab, and reduce the brightness that should save some power as well.
[03:23] <xeeder> all i want is to atleast have a reasonable battery timing; its ridiculously low! :/
[03:24] <josephmudloff> Timing? Do you mean increase the life of your battery?
[03:24] <bwayne> xeeder: battery meters are often very inaccurate, and need to be recalibrated from time to time, even from a hardware level. you can read this for some more info. it seems to be a universal problem. --> http://lifehacker.com/130735/how-to-recalibrate-your-laptop-battery
[03:24] <josephmudloff> Preach it, bwayne.
[03:24] <xeeder> have you used windows?  there is a power save option which works very well for me; i expected to have that option available in ubuntu too :/
[03:25] <MsSayian> xeeder: If you click on the dash home and if you type system settings you can edit when you can send and what you can do when the power is low. Also go to the brightness and lock tab, and reduce the brightness that should save some power as well.
[03:25] <josephmudloff> Number one benefit -- bring the brightness of your display down.
[03:25] <xeeder> MsSayian, i am doing that....
[03:26] <josephmudloff> You can customize power profiles in Ubuntu, as well. Might be dependent on your desktop enviornment, so search google for lxde power save or xfce power save, or whatever environment you're using.
[03:26] <moorvogi> MsSayian: i'm sure it has somethign to do with ssmtp at this point. i'm logged on as a diffrent user (that doesn't have a gmail account) and it's barking about<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i think i have ssmtp configured poorly as this problem began shortly after that was installed :D
[03:26] <xeeder> josephmudloff,  its simple ubuntu; one that comes by default (ONE i think)
[03:26] <josephmudloff> xeeder: And, make sure that your BIOS options for CPU throttling are set correctly.
[03:27] <josephmudloff> I
[03:27] <josephmudloff> I'm not sure what that is -- Unity, perhaps? So, search Unity power management.
[03:27] <xeeder> josephmudloff,  BIOS options are default; i never tried changing any of that
[03:28] <xeeder> josephmudloff,  yeah unity it is
[03:28] <MsSayian> moorvogi: Your getting closer is there something like ssmtp.conf?
[03:28] <josephmudloff> NEVER trust factory-shipped defaults - you need to see what the settings are by entering the BIOS utility at startup, to make sure it's set correctly. Or, at least, the way you want it set.
[03:28] <moorvogi> aye. i'm looking at the config now /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf :D
[03:29] <josephmudloff> Chances are, your BIOS settings will be set correctly, but it's good to check. After that, it's
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> !kubuntu
[03:29] <josephmudloff> just a matter of finding the Unity power management applet and tweaking it from there.
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> !kde
[03:29] <bwayne> xeeder: cpufreq-set -g powersave
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> !lxde
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> Heh, cool
[03:30] <null_dev> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to download a podcast, but with Apples insistence on keeping iTunes unavailable on Linux, I don't know how without having to use VMware to get their software, and as far as I've heard it doesn't work well online. Is there another way to do this? Apple doesn't seem to have web interface available.
[03:30] <bwayne> null_dev: have a look at gPodder.
[03:30] <cfhowlett> null_dev, as you see, apple doesn't play nice.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> !itunes
[03:31] <null_dev> cfhowlett Yes, fuck Apple.
[03:31] <josephmudloff> Apple seems to like playing under the old
[03:31] <null_dev> bwayne Thanks!
[03:31] <josephmudloff> AOL rules.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !language | null_dev
[03:31] <null_dev> I'm really sorry, I slipped up.
[03:31] <xeeder> bwayne, what this will do? it seems to me that cpufreq will be set on low; but i want that to happen on battery not while i am using AC
[03:33] <bwayne> xeeder: let me see if there's a gui or something for you.
[03:33] <xeeder> bwayne,  that will be great! :)
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, cpufreq puts a gui icon in the panel.
[03:35] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  should i install it then?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> there is also indicator-cpufreq
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> might be the same
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, run sudo apt-get install indicator-cpufreq and it should be in the panel
[03:37] <urzg> hm
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> urzg, Stop asking people if they are indian, all you did was change your nick
[03:38] <urzg> wilee-nilee,  orry
[03:38] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  i have also installed laptop mode tools
[03:38] <urzg> wehn did I ask?
[03:38] <urzg> but
[03:38] <urzg> yeah
[03:38] <urzg> Sorry
[03:39] <phogg> enter is not punctuation
[03:39] <bwayne> xeeder: do you mind using a ppa?
 moorvogi,  are you Indian/
[03:39] <urzg> hmm
[03:39] <urzg> Oh yeah sorry about that wilee-nilee  . It reminded me of a food
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> urzg, You are not sorry stop it.
[03:39] <xeeder> bwayne,  if it solves the problem; sure!
[03:40] <bwayne> xeeder: are you familiar with adding a ppa?
[03:40] <urzg> ok
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, I'm not familiar with those tools.
[03:40] <urzg> Also anyone here use Xchat Gnome/
[03:40] <moorvogi> MsSayian: .. no spammy emails yet!
[03:40] <urzg> whats the diffeerence between that and regular xchat ?
[03:41] <andokito> hi!
[03:41] <xeeder> bwayne, i do know how to install package; if thats what you mean
[03:42] <anonee> following this http://www.webupd8.org/2009/02/ubuntu-internet-connection-sharing.html I did sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE but I typed eth0 instead of wlan0 and then I repeated the step with wlan0. how do I fix it?
[03:42] <xeeder> i have searched a bit and found this for power management: https://01.org/powertop/
[03:42] <bwayne> xeeder: check my private message
[03:43] <urgodfather> hello, how can i configure a program to launch at startup?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, There is startup applications
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[03:44] <urgodfather> i know that much, i just never configured one before
[03:44] <gavinguo> urgodfather, put the script in rc.local?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, here is the populating the startup app info as well it is empty by default. http://askubuntu.com/questions/69810/how-do-i-add-remove-the-hidden-startup-applications
[03:46] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, do you know how to close the lcd manually?
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, lcd manually?
[03:47] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, turn off the backlight
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, Not really, I just use sleep in general.
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> err suspend
[03:48] <anonee> following this http://www.webupd8.org/2009/02/ubuntu-internet-connection-sharing.html I did sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE but I typed eth0 instead of wlan0 and then I repeated the step with wlan0. how do I fix it? and another question: can I just replace dnsmasq with dnsmasq-base without having to change any of the other steps?
[03:49] <urgodfather> ok, so it looks like i need to make this program able to run via terminal first
[03:50] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, sometime I need to turn off the backlight to enlarge the battery power.
[03:51] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, and the system is still running some apps like irc, etc.
[03:54] <gavinguo> urgodfather, put it to rc.local can't work?
[03:55] <urgodfather> i dont get what you mean by put it in rc.local
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, I have never had to do that so not the best help in that, I would just turn down the brightness, finding a on off that works consistently might be a challenge.
[04:00] <anonee> I typed $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE instead of $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE how to inverse that?
[04:02] <Geeky_Vin> Hi, thr I need some help setting up a home sever in my old laptop for deploy a java web app, can anyone help me. pls.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> Geeky_Vin, Kinda slow here you might consider #ubuntu-server
[04:07] <Geeky_Vin> ok, wilee-nilee, thanks. ;)
[04:07] <oaulakh> how to reset ubuntu as fresh installation
[04:08] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, details.
[04:08] <oaulakh> what details you need
[04:08] <cfhowlett> !details|oaulakh,
[04:08] <oaulakh> ubuntu version 13.04
[04:08] <Isara> :)
[04:09] <oaulakh> problem with  installing packaget from apt-get
[04:09] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, "problem" ...
[04:09] <oaulakh> problem was start ocurring when i was installing rpm
[04:10] <oaulakh> with command "apt-get install rpm"
[04:10] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, rpm?  redhat package manager?  THAT rpm?
[04:10] <oaulakh> and stop it in half with pressing ctrl +z
[04:11] <oaulakh> yeah thats rpm
[04:11] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, so you half installed it and killed it midway?
[04:11] <oaulakh> yeah
[04:11] <oaulakh> i killed the process in middway
[04:12] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, no need to "reset" ubuntu.  sudo apt-get purge rpm will remove it
[04:12] <oaulakh> and after that i see nothing going to install on ubuntu
[04:12] <oaulakh> if i use that apt-get
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, using rpm is a bad idea as well.
[04:13] <oaulakh> it show me to some directory like dpkg not accesiable
[04:13] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, please advise if you (probably) know more than I.  I'm guessing dpkg lock?
[04:13] <oaulakh> but some packages are only availaible in rpm
[04:13] <oaulakh> like xchat
[04:13] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, improper shutdown of apt = dpkg lock.  normal.  "reset ubuntu" not required.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin it.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, what?  xchat is a firefox addon and IS available in ubuntu!
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> cfhowlett, I would guess locked yeah.
[04:14] <xeeder> i am getting this error: i.imgur.com/iEnz1PU.png anybody knows how to solve this?
[04:15] <oaulakh> when i configure xchat from source
[04:15] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, xchat is in the ubuntu "universe" repository.
[04:15] <oaulakh> i shows some problem with glib
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !xcht
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !xchat
[04:15] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, why configure from source?  sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !dpkg lock
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !dpkg-lock
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Can we assume you have some what Frankenstein'd your setup
[04:16] <oaulakh> not working "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[04:16] <constantine> ?
[04:17] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, for the record "not working" tells us NOTHING.  error messages matter.
[04:17] <oaulakh> wait i'm going to again boot ubuntu
[04:17] <xeeder> i am getting this error: i.imgur.com/iEnz1PU.png please help...
[04:17]  * cfhowlett ... facepalms directly into the keyboard 0p9u3-09u;dfa
[04:18] <oaulakh> well see in some time
[04:19] <dc4> *echo echo echo*
[04:19] <dc4> echo
[04:20] <dc4> 1
[04:20] <anonee> I typed $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE instead of $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE how to inverse that?
[04:21] <xeeder> i installed Jupiter (battery saving application) and when i try to configure it, i get this error: i.imgur.com/iEnz1PU.png please help...
[04:22] <gavinguo> is there anyone know how to config sound under xchat-gnome?
[04:22] <gavinguo> I've no sound under xchat & gtalk.
[04:22] <fuzk> ugh
[04:22] <fuzk> ubuntu is too much for 500mb ram
[04:22] <fuzk> :/
[04:23] <cfhowlett> fuzk, as stated in the requirements.  try lubuntu or xubuntu.
[04:23] <anonee> do I have to ask this q elsewhere? about iptables?
[04:23] <fuzk> cfhowlett which is best
[04:24] <cfhowlett> fuzk, both are optimized for older/lower spec machines.  xubuntu is a bit more mature and has long term support with 12.04
[04:24] <fuzk> ok
[04:24] <kostkon> fuzk, you need at least 2gb for a comfortable experience. 1gb is a struggle, 500mb death
[04:26] <fuzk> yeah
[04:26] <anonee> come on please somebody help me!
[04:27] <fuzk> it took me about 6reboots and half an hour to actually do something
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|anonee,
[04:27] <gavinguo> if anyone can ping me to test the sound? ;)
[04:27] <kostkon> gavinguo, what sound options are available in xchat-gnome
[04:28] <gavinguo> kostkon, cool
[04:28] <anonee> cfhowlett thank you...
[04:28] <cfhowlett> anonee, if there's anyone home, I bet the #ubuntu-server channel would know
[04:29] <gavinguo> kostkon, I just enable the sound in the edit-->preferences-->scripts and plugins--> enable sound notification
[04:29] <anonee> cfhowlett thanks I'll try it :)
[04:30] <Territoriojoven> so how do I uninstall it now?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Territoriojoven, ??? NO idea what you're on about...
[04:31] <oaulakh> back again
[04:31] <oaulakh> how to remove rpm package
[04:31] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, sudo apt-get purge rpm
[04:31] <Territoriojoven> cfhowlett: ubuntu. haw 2 uninstall
[04:31] <cfhowlett> Territoriojoven, how did you install it?
[04:31] <airtondeejay> boa noite
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !uninstall
[04:32] <mitch-_> !botlove
[04:32] <mitch-_> ah man. i thought i had that one for sure.
[04:32] <oaulakh> removed now
[04:32] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, for future reference, killing an apt process before it's finished will almost always cause the dpkg lock you experienced.
[04:32] <kostkon> gavinguo, in xhcat you have the option to define your own program, can you do the same in xchat-gnome: http://ubuntuone.com/513Ar8Ocbca17wM4KNKyjt
[04:32] <airtondeejay> to usando ubuntu studio qual programa pra gravar cd mixado?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !english|airtondeejay,
[04:33] <oaulakh> okk thanks
[04:33] <oaulakh> now how to install xchat
[04:33] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, and now ... sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:34] <Territoriojoven> oaulakh: xchat is bad, use quassel.ç
[04:34] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, see the pattern :)
[04:34] <oaulakh> it saying me package unavailaible
[04:34] <gavinguo> kostkon, I use xchat-gnoe. If xchat is good to use?
[04:34] <airtondeejay> oi
[04:34] <oaulakh> nowt working
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|Territoriojoven,
[04:34] <kostkon> oaulakh, i think xchat is better
[04:35] <kostkon> oops
[04:35] <kostkon> gavinguo, xchat is better
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> oaulakh, install hexchat, it's better than xchat...
[04:35] <kostkon> oaulakh, apt-cache policy xchat
[04:35] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, check your sources ... it's in the universe repo on 12.04
[04:35] <Territoriojoven> ugh
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> oaulakh, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> add that ppa than apt-get install hexchat
[04:36] <Territoriojoven> isn't there a !xchat| oaulakh
[04:36] <oaulakh> it all show me unable to locate package
[04:36] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, apt-cache policy xchat will tell you what repo you need to enable to get it
[04:36] <kostkon> !xchat
[04:36] <kostkon> riiight
[04:36] <dr_willis> i honestly cant say ive noticed anything different in hexchat vs xchat
[04:36] <gavinguo> kostkon, can you explain what xchat is beter?
[04:36] <oaulakh> i'm right now using webserver for chatting online
[04:36] <airtondeejay> ola tem alguem que fala portugues ai
[04:36] <Pingu> hello
[04:37] <kostkon> gavinguo, you get more options to tinker with
[04:37] <Territoriojoven> http://quassel-irc.org/node/104
[04:37] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, firefox has irc chat addons
[04:37] <jyhc> can anybody recommend an easy to use, reliable backup utility?
[04:37] <dr_willis> i prefer weechat for my irc needs. ;-)
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !backup
[04:37] <jyhc> preferably something like Time Machine
[04:37] <airtondeejay> oi
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !br|airtondeejay,
[04:37] <Pingu> how do I make it so I can choose the operating system at boot?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> Pingu, depends on how you installed ubuntu
[04:38] <Territoriojoven> well sh1t
[04:38] <airtondeejay> obrigado
[04:38] <Territoriojoven> xubuntu weighs the same as ubuntu
[04:38] <Territoriojoven> i'll ratherrr stick to windows xp
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !language|Territoriojoven,
[04:38] <Pingu> cfhowlett: I installed it on an UEFI partition
[04:38] <oaulakh> if firefox have xchat addon
[04:38] <oaulakh> then thats good
[04:38] <cfhowlett> Pingu, so a dual boot?  no wubi
[04:38] <Pingu> cfhowlett: yes I want the grub to come up
[04:38] <kostkon> oaulakh, not xchat per se but... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
[04:39] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, chatzilla is good on firefox
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Pingu, and you also have windows ...
[04:39] <oaulakh> here's the process
[04:39] <oaulakh> of dual boot
[04:39] <Pingu> cfhowlett: I am duel booting windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04.3
[04:39] <oaulakh> because i'm also using dual boot without
[04:39] <oaulakh> wubi
[04:39] <Ari-Yang> Pingu, it's dual, not duel...
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Pingu, got it.  grub should have detected the other OS, but I'm not the one to ask on the UEFI systems.  ask in channel.
[04:40] <dr_willis> except when the 2  os's fight
[04:40] <Pingu> cfhowlett, I installed ubuntu before I installed windows
[04:41] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Pingu,  gain, uefi does things a little different but best practice is windows > ubuntu.  fixgrub might be what you want.
[04:41] <Pingu> ubottu, I have grub just the grub menu doesnt show at boot
[04:42] <Pingu> haha
[04:42] <dr_willis> Pingu: rerun update-grub
[04:42] <oaulakh> yeah you right
[04:42] <oaulakh> on for windows
[04:42] <oaulakh> one for windows
[04:42] <oaulakh> hahhaha
[04:42] <FloodBot1> oaulakh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <oaulakh> and right click on my computer select manage
[04:42] <oaulakh> then boot windows
[04:42] <oaulakh> install windos 8 or 7 whatever you have .... install it on first drive
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Hehe banned
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> by the bot
[04:43] <cfhowlett> and he was doing so well, too.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> lol
[04:43] <Pingu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-30-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-30-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-29-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-29-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[04:44] <Pingu>   No volume groups found
[04:44] <Pingu> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[04:44] <dr_willis> !pastebin | Pingu
[04:46] <Pingu> I guess I should do a restart and see
[04:46] <Pingu> if it worked
[04:47] <xeeder> whats the linux kernel version of ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> xeeder, in terminal:   uname -a   will display it
[04:47] <kostkon> latest 12.04.3 iso has 3.8, older installations have 3.2
[04:48] <kostkon> or 3.5
[04:49] <Codex_> hello
[04:49] <Codex_> the grub menu isnt coming up at boot
[04:49] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, did you hold down SHIFT on boot?
[04:50] <Codex_> oh
[04:50] <Codex_> nope :(
[04:50] <Codex_> can I change it so it just comes up without doing anything?
[04:50] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, if that doesn't work then edit /etc/default/grub and comment the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and uncomment the line GRUB_TIMEOUT= and set it to 10
[04:51] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, after run sudo update-grub in terminal....
[04:51] <Codex_> what will setting hidden timeout to 10 do exactly?
[04:51] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, make it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=G8cbYsBp (the file is in /etc/default/grub)
[04:52] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, it will display the grub menu for 10 seconds
[04:52] <Ari-Yang> you can make it less if you want.
[04:52] <cfhowlett> codex, display menu 10 seconds then boot default
[04:54] <xeeder> how can i update kernel? nvidia optimus requires 3.9 and ubuntu 12.04 LTS has 3.8 version
[04:55] <Isara> Xeeder: Read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[04:55] <Isara> HowTo Upgrade or Recompile Kernel
[04:56] <Codex_> ok going to restart
[04:59] <rizal> hallo
[04:59] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> just download the image that is appropriate for your system. AMD64 for 64-bit
[05:01] <Pingu> hello
[05:01] <Pingu> im back
[05:01] <Pingu> cant get the grub menu to come up
[05:01] <Pingu> I have a UEFI partition
[05:02] <Pingu> please help
[05:04] <Pingu> ubottu: hello
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Pingu, Can you boot windows or ubuntu?
[05:04] <Pingu> yes
[05:04] <Pingu> both
[05:04] <xeeder> can i install any kernel from the given kernel directory??
[05:04] <Pingu> but only from selecting them in bios
[05:05] <Pingu> I want grub so I can choose
[05:05] <xeeder> 48. v3.10.12-saucy/
[05:05] <xeeder> 49. v3.11-saucy/
[05:05] <xeeder> 50. v3.11.1-saucy/
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Pingu, That may be the best you can do, I have seen people in this same situation, I assume this is from gui's not messing with the bios.
[05:05] <xeeder> i want to install latest one; will it be compatible with ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, Problem here is that kernels stock to releases are what are supported here only technically.
[05:06] <Pingu> wilee-nilee, well I know the grub is there because otherwise ubuntu would not load
[05:07] <Pingu> I just need to know how to make the grub menu to show
[05:07] <Daejeo> hello guys
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> Pingu, sure, however this uefi thing is a bit of a pickle, you have manufacturers making their own versions. So depending on how you installed may be a difference.
[05:08] <Braun> ibus says the isput  method is off
[05:08] <xeeder> wilee-nilee, "The mainline kernels builds are produced for debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk."
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> and
[05:08] <Pingu> wilee-nilee, I agree it isn't really that great
[05:09] <parallels> hello all
[05:09] <Braun> 和快速斯拉夫己内部的分开了发rje
[05:09] <parallels> ?
[05:09] <Pingu> wilee-nilee, I installed both windows and linux in uefi
[05:09] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  so i shouldnt install the latest kernel :/
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I'm using 3.11 and everything is just fine....
[05:09] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, are you using on 12.04?
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> - OS: Linux 3.11.0-996-generic/x86_64 - Distro: Ubuntu 12.10 -
[05:09] <parallels> I'm running version 12.04 on my iMac on a virtual machine using parallels 8 desktop. how can I upgrade to 13.04?
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, Your choice really, I have never seen any claims on optimus needing 3.9 here though.
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I'm running DRM-Next
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, latest stable is 3.11.1
[05:10] <rizal> Pingu, have you tried this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> parallels, 12.04 has 5 years support, you would have to go through 12.10, personally I never upgrade.
[05:11] <Pingu> parallels, well I would make a copie of your vm incase it goes wrong
[05:12] <Pingu> rizal, having a look now
[05:12] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am not sure if 12.04 will be cool with latest kernel; will it be?
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I can't give a definitive answer. But to be honest, it should be fine :|
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> I've seen people run 12.04 with mainline kernels
[05:13] <rizal> pingu, sorry I am just learning, and I do not really speak English proficient
[05:13] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i am counting on this :D
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you can always boot into a previous kernel version or uninstall the mainline kernel if you want
[05:13] <parallels> thanks guy.
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, why do you want to use a mainline kernel?
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> I'm just curious....
[05:13] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i want to install latest nvidia driver which requires 3.9 and higher
[05:14] <xeeder> with 3.8 people have reported problems
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, ah, okay. Good luck.
[05:14] <shubhamjain> Hi guys. I have tried almost all solutions but the randomly not getting sound card detected has been unsolvable. Any one having the same issue?
[05:14] <parallels> I think I should upgrade to Parallels desktop 9 because it came with version 13.09, but the only thing is it come with a price of $50.
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I installed 3.11 because of DPM (dynamic power management) for open source radeon driver.
[05:14] <rizal> Pingu, i hope this can solved your problem ..
[05:14] <parallels> what's new it's iMac from Apple.
[05:14] <gavinguo> if anyone can ping me again to test the sound? ;)
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> gavinguo
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, huh
[05:15] <gavinguo> Ari-Yang, thanks, great!!
[05:15] <Pingu> rizal, can I run boot-repair within my ubuntu install or do I have to run it from a live disk
[05:15] <Ari-Yang> wille, he wanted to be highlighted.
[05:15] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, thanks, too.
[05:15] <rizal> from live disk
[05:15] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  should i go for latest one; or is it too early for that? i mean latest will be unstable or something like that
[05:16] <diverdude> anybody knows a program which canrecord from mic and save to wav file?
[05:16] <rizal> Pingu, from live disk or live flash driver ...
[05:16] <Pingu> rizal, is there a specific reason for that?
[05:16] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, go by this site: https://www.kernel.org/ the latest stable Kernel is 3.11.1, if you want that download from this directory: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/
[05:17] <Pingu> rizal, I jus dont know if I will be able to boot from a live disk becuase last time I tryed I had to unplug all sata cables and remove graphics card
[05:17] <Pingu> *just
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, check this page out https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html kernel 3.10 is LTS
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so it's up to you.
[05:18] <Ari-Yang> either is fine...
[05:18] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, what does this means? >>"will completely disable any way of working with additional hard drives from within Nautilus (Nautilus will show as if there were no hard drives attached to the computer even though they are and you can access them through the terminal)."
[05:18] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, the kernel that in development is 3.12, latest release is 3.12-rc1; RC releases are patch releases.
[05:18] <shubhamjain> diverdude: Not usre but I have heard of SoX.
[05:19] <shubhamjain> s/usre/sure/
[05:19] <Pingu> does anybody know if this will work without live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[05:19] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, if thats ^ (what i posted in quotes) not a big issue; i am good to go
[05:19] <Nubuntu> Hey guys
[05:20] <Pingu> hey
[05:20] <rizal> Pingu, maybe you can boot with usb ..?
[05:20] <rizal> on live mode
[05:20] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, dunno, obviously something about Nautilus. I mean it clearly states what will be disabled in nautilus
[05:20] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I'm not sure.... where did you get that? on a side note, xeeder you'll have to use DKMS (I think that's what it's called) to get proprietary drivers/modules to work with mainline kernels.
[05:20] <rizal> Pingu, you can install boot repair in live mode
[05:20] <Nubuntu> So i have a question. If i boot ubuntu, will it give me the option to make a new partition for ubuntu and keep windows secure
[05:21] <Pingu> rizal, yeah sure I just want to know if it would work without live mode first to save time
[05:21] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, for example, if I want to use my wifi proprietary driver (broadcom wifi :V) I'll have to go through a process to get it to work with my current mainline kernel.
[05:22] <Ari-Yang> I think VMware counts too... haven't tried it
[05:22] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so I advise you to disable all proprietary drivers when installing a mainline kernel, set it all to open source.
[05:22] <rizal> Pingu, maybe
[05:22] <mattwj2002> hi guys...how well is bluray supported in ubuntu
[05:22] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i have atheros wifi which is supported; so i think it will work; right?
[05:23] <Pingu> rizal, well I guess it is worth trying
[05:23] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  how to set them open source?
[05:23] <rizal> Pingu, i only ever on live mode
[05:23] <xeeder> why is there no guide on ubuntu for that :/
[05:23] <mattwj2002> I want to buy a BluRay burner and burn some disc
[05:23] <Nubuntu> If i boot ubuntu, will it give me the option to make a new partition for ubuntu and keep windows secure/unharmed
[05:23] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, go to additional drivers from system settings.
[05:23] <Pingu> rizal, what do you mean?
[05:23] <wyclif> hey
[05:24] <Nubuntu> wait huys
[05:24] <Nubuntu> If i boot ubuntu, will it give me the option to make a new partition for ubuntu and keep windows secure
[05:24] <shubhamjain> Nubuntu:  It will replace the classic boot loader with GRUb with an option to boot to windows. SO I guess yes.
[05:24] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, it says no proprietary drivers are in use
[05:24] <diverdude> shubhamjain, SoX?
[05:24] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I know on 12.10 and 13.04, you go to software sources and select the additional drivers tab from there. also there's this on DKMS http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041602
[05:24] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay, you're good
[05:25] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so if you install a mainline kernel right now, everything should be just fine, wifi etc.
[05:25] <shubhamjain> Diverdude: Sound Exchange. Google it. Havent used it myself.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, What windows release is this?
[05:25] <Ari-Yang> [01:22:44] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i have atheros wifi which is supported; so i think it will work; right? ---> not sure, best way to find out is to try *shrugs*
[05:25] <rizal> Pingu, i just tried on live mode
[05:26] <Pingu> rizal, oh ok
[05:26] <rizal> Pingu, sorry my english chaotic
[05:26] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you running on 64-bit or 32-bit?
[05:26] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  64-bit
[05:26] <Pingu> rizal, dont worry about it man, thanks for the help
[05:26] <rizal> ok ...
[05:27] <xeeder> dont know why kernel headers return false when i typed Y for it
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay so you'd download the linux-image amd64 .deb and if you're gonna use DKMS just in case get the headers amd64 .deb and the headers all .deb
[05:27] <moorvogi> goodnight all
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so if you were to download kernel 3.11.1, you'd download http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-headers
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> -3.11.1-031101_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_all.deb
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.1-031101_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_all.deb
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> ( sorry for spam :V)
[05:28] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am going with 3.11
[05:29] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, throw them all in a folder, cd into it via terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:29] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, make sure they're the only .deb files in the folder if you're gonna do it that way.
[05:30] <Nubuntu> sorry, it is win y
[05:30] <Nubuntu> *7
[05:31] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel (how to upgrade kernel) is it cool?
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, Some OEM's have 4 primary partitions, this is the maximum, so we need to see if this is the case from ubuntu. Generally it is better to shrink the windows with its disk manager leaving a unallocated for the ubuntu install.
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, ummmm yeah I'd run the command I just said, seeing how that works.
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> put all the .deb files in one folder, cd into it with terminal and run: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, after when it's done, reboot
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, However people do use the installer to resize windows your choice, hyou just want to be sure you have the partition types and max allowed in order
[05:33] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  kernel headers return false; i am sure that i replied with Y when it asked if i wanted to have kernel headers
[05:34] <Nubuntu> yeah, I want to keep windows files secure, but have lets say 100 gigs for ubuntu. So the installer, will let me create a parition?
[05:34] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you mean the headers didn't install?
[05:34] <xeeder> "Would you like to download kernel headers [Y/n]: Y
[05:34] <xeeder> "
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, Oh yes, if unallocated the manual install will allow you to make a partition, you probably want a swap to.
[05:35] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  "Kernel headers: False, Kernel image: True, Kernel extras: True
[05:35] <xeeder> "
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, how are you downloading those files?
[05:35] <xeeder> by using ubuntu guide
[05:35] <Nubuntu> ok good. Because I just want to make sure that all windows files are ok
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> ...forget that guide xeeder, follow my instructions I gave you above :/
[05:35] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel (how to upgrade kernel)
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, I think even with a unallocated space you can hit install alongside, I always manual install so not real sure.
[05:36] <xeeder> what should i do know; should i close the terminal?
[05:36] <xeeder> its still downloading
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, it's downloading the image?
[05:36] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, should i close terminal; or what now?
[05:36] <Nubuntu> ok. I'll just watch a tut then thanks wilee-nilee
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, if it's downloading, just leave it....
[05:36] <xeeder> yeah its completed: 50%
[05:36] <xeeder> still downloading
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, where will it be saved to?
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> your downloads folder?
[05:36] <xeeder> leave means>>quit to terminal?
[05:37] <Ari-Yang> no leave as in don't quit
[05:37] <Ari-Yang> just leave it alone and let it download....
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, no problem, once in a great while someone will let the installer resize windows and have  brick because its resized to far, but it seems rare.
[05:37] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I wanted you to just download the .deb links from the directory page, simply download it and when it's done install it :|
[05:38] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  its downloading to some default directory i guess as i didnt specify any during upgradation
[05:38] <oaulakh> hello again
[05:38] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay, well if the headers aren't gonna download, go to the directory and download it from there
[05:38] <oaulakh> why i was banned
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, the bot banned you
[05:38] <oaulakh> if i'm solving the problem here
[05:38] <oaulakh> dual boot
[05:38] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you're downloading 3.11.1?
[05:39] <xeeder> wth; i just tried to copy the lines from terminal with ctrl+c and it returned with keyboard interrupt
[05:39] <oaulakh> so who need dual boot
[05:39] <xeeder> the whole thing stopped i guess? Ari-Yang
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, just highlight and right click and hit 'copy'? :b
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay lets start from scratch
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> close the terminal if it isn't closed (and close it if it looks like the download stopped)
[05:40] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  it isnt closed but i cant see any download;
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, go to this page, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/ simply click and download image amd64, headers amd64, and headers all. after move all of the .deb into a single folder....
[05:41] <oaulakh> how to install nvidia suitable driver for 410m
[05:41] <oaulakh> i have nvidia 410m in my laptop and i need drivers help me
[05:41] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, then after, cd into the folder with terminal and type sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:41] <Ari-Yang> after it's done, reboot...
[05:41] <Pingu> rizal, it worked!!!
[05:41] <Pingu> rizal, thanks so much man
[05:41] <Pingu> rizal, solved the problem!
[05:42] <Pingu> rizal,I can now duel boot ubuntu and windows 8
[05:42] <oaulakh> nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[05:42] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, these are the links you will be downloading: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nNYu32xA
[05:42] <rizal> Pingu, congratulations
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> !nvidia | oaulakh
[05:42] <Ari-Yang> Pingu, it's dual, but putting that aside, grats ^_^
[05:43] <oaulakh> msg me private pingu i dont want to banned again
[05:43] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, let me know when you're done installing before you reboot....
[05:44] <Pingu> Ari-Yang, haha ok
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> :>
[05:44] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, sure Thanks for helping me out :)
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> no worries~
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, The bot banned you because you were using the enter key a punctuation, multiple posts in order.
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> as*
[05:48] <fellayaboy> if i install a ubuntu onto a usb (not a live persisent) will it be portable or will it be tied to that computer i created it on?
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, depends on what hardware you run into.
[05:50] <fellayaboy> but most part if its i386 it should run on almost any
[05:50] <helmut_> hi
[05:50] <fellayaboy> right?
[05:50] <Ben64> you'll probably run into graphics problems
[05:50] <fellayaboy> my uubntu usb is i386 so it should probably work on there
[05:50] <fellayaboy> oh yeah thats typical too
[05:51] <fellayaboy> but will network manager pick up the wifi or is it stuck to the wifi device i created ubuntu usb on
[05:52] <fellayaboy> will it pick up the device from other computer i put it on
[05:56] <oaulakh> hello
[05:57]  * MightyK
[05:58] <oaulakh> i dunno i'm using internet through iphone on ubuntu and its dropping my internet connection again again, and i'm frustrating with that useless os as compares to windows 8
[05:58] <oaulakh> any help
[06:01] <werxxx> I have 2 ubuntu on my computer, how to delete one os
[06:02] <wyclif> werxxx: could it be possible that you have Ubuntu installed on 2 partitions?
[06:04] <Isara> werxxx: Use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller
[06:05] <werxxx> I have 1 kubuntu and 2 ubuntu  on my hdd, I want to delete wrong os
[06:05] <Isara> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller <- should work.
[06:05] <werxxx> Thanks
[06:09] <Lightz> Hi. I want to see the input of my digital camera from canon on my ubuntu 12.04 screen. how can i do it? or for what feature do I have to search? Thanks!
[06:09] <SwedeMike> Lightz: you want to use it as a real time webcam basically?
[06:10] <Lightz> SwedeMike: yes
[06:10] <Isara> Does your camera change modes when plugged to a computer?
[06:10] <Isara> If it forces itself in a different mode where you can't use the camera then there's no viable way.
[06:10] <Lightz> Isara: Sorry, I dont know.
[06:10] <Isara> You own the camera. Just plug it to a PC and see what happens.
[06:11] <Isara> Can you take photos while it's plugged?
[06:11] <Lightz> Ok. I also will search for a way to use it as webcam. that should work. I will ask later if I dont find anything. Thanks.
[06:13] <SwedeMike> Lightz: if it works as a webcam under windows, then you should try a webcam application and see if it works under linux as well. if you need to convert video output from the camera with some kind of video input card, then that's what you need to look for.
[06:28] <SupaSol> matinaux du Week End :-)
[06:29] <SupaSol> youps
[06:29] <SupaSol> Hello here :p
[06:30] <h4ck1ng> tengo un problema con ubuntu alguien me puede ayudar?
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> !es
[06:40] <oaulakh> hello
[06:40] <Isara> Hello
[06:41] <oaulakh> do you know how to install xchat in ubuntu?
[06:42] <Isara> Use the Software Center.
[06:42] <Isara> Use the Ubuntu Software Center*
[06:43] <Isara> Use Ubuntu Software Center.* (Sorry)
[06:43] <oaulakh> i used it but it freez on updating cache
[06:43] <Lightz> Hi. I want to see the input of my digital camera (canon 1100d) on my ubuntu 12.04 screen. How can I do it? I checked /dev but did not find the device. My build in cam of my netbook got /dev/video0 but I found no video1 for my cam. But I still can mount the storage of the cam. Do I have to install a driver? I was using VLC. My onboard cam works flawless. When plugged in I can take pictures with my digicam. Thanks.
[06:46] <oaulakh> .... :(
[06:47] <Daejeo> hello anybody awake?
[06:47] <reisio> hi
[06:47] <oaulakh> yeahhhh but no one answering questions
[06:47] <reisio> oaulakh: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:47] <Daejeo> hello reisio
[06:48] <oaulakh> not working it says me unable to locate package
[06:50] <reisio> apt-cache search chat | grep -I x
[06:50] <reisio> grep -i
[06:50] <Isara> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto#Installation_.26_Starting_XChat
[06:50] <Isara> sudo apt-get install xchat. XChat-GNOM
[06:50] <Isara> sudo apt-get install xchat. XChat-GNOME (
[06:50] <Isara> sudo apt-get install xchat. XChat-GNOME * arghh
[06:51] <Isara> Oh wait, the latter wasn't part of the command. Stupid me.
[06:51] <reisio> don't need a guide to install a package...
[06:52] <kongthap> i'm trying to setup permission for my web application folder /var/www/myfolder
[06:52] <Marcolino> Anyone from BRasil ?
[06:53] <kongthap> if I set to drwxrwxrwx, this permission is too risk for security
[06:55] <przemek> hello my dears , what's mean that RAID is in VERYFICATION mode?
[06:55] <przemek> raid 9750 lsi
[06:55] <Isara> Then change the permission specifically for the user/folder.
[06:56] <reisio> -br
[06:56] <reisio> przemek: means you're using raid, a mistake
[06:57] <przemek> mistake ? do You mean raid error?
[06:59] <reisio> I mean most people using raid shouldn't be
[07:00] <przemek> ahh :)
[07:00] <przemek> yeh i know
[07:00] <przemek> I prefere software RAID
[07:01] <przemek> but it's my client
[07:02] <reisio> software too
[07:07] <xeeder> how to find default runlevel of system? it should be here:  "/etc/inittab" but i cant find inittab; please help
[07:07] <xeeder> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:08] <Territoriojoven> lol no one toldme i could go from ubuntu to xubuntu
[07:08] <Territoriojoven> :(
[07:08] <Territoriojoven> gotta do it all again
[07:08] <zykotick9> !runlevels | xeeder
[07:08] <guest1337> Hey, so...
[07:08] <guest1337> could someone assist me with an Ubuntu installation?
[07:08] <guest1337> I'm currently on a live cd
[07:09] <guest1337> basically, in the installation for 13.04
[07:09] <reisio> yes?
[07:09] <reisio> good guest number :p
[07:09] <xeeder> ubottu,  what do you mean by equal? i have read that 0 means halt; 6 means reboot; 5 means upstart; isnt that how it suppose to be?
[07:09] <guest1337> k, so there's things like /boot and / and /var
[07:09] <guest1337> What does / do?
[07:09] <guest1337> Does /boot actually contain all the files for the Ubuntu boot?
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: yes, it contains grub
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: / is root, it can contain everything if you want
[07:10] <reisio> the top of the filesystem is /
[07:10] <joufflu> hi hi
[07:10] <xeeder> okk..gotcha
[07:10] <guest1337> Let's say: Could I install /boot onto an SSD, and then everything else onto a 1 TB hard drive, and would it boot as if I installed everything on the ssd?
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: some people like to separate directories for better management
[07:11] <Territoriojoven> before doing that, it's going to be normal xubuntu right?
[07:11] <reisio> just as /foo/ contains /foo/bar/, / contains all
[07:11] <guest1337> If I select the ssd for /boot, then the 1 tb for /, would it install an extra copy of /boot into /, or not contain /boot in /?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: if ssd boots first, you should be able to configure it to boot from other hdds
[07:11] <xeeder> when i type runlevel it returns: "N 2" what is N here? 2 is current run level right?
[07:11] <reisio> boot isn't an entire os
[07:12] <reisio> you might leave /home/ off the ssd, though
[07:12] <guest1337> Sorry, it's late at night, and I'm trying to fix my computer. I've been getting errors when I installed it on the hdd
[07:13] <guest1337> I don't really need to know about /boot and stuff, but instead, has anyone had a problem where you install ubuntu, and get an error message: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found?
[07:13] <xeeder> when i type runlevel it returns: "N 2" what is N here? 2 is current run level right?
[07:13] <guest1337> I've tried a few websites from a google search, none of them worked.
[07:13] <xeeder> i am typing runlevel in terminal..
[07:14] <YatharthROCK> .
[07:14] <guest1337> I've tried formatting the hard drive, and reinstalling ubuntu.
[07:14] <reisio> guest1337: paste your...
[07:15] <reisio> etc/grub/grub.cfg, /etc/fstab, lsblk
[07:16] <guest1337> bash: /etc/grub: No such file or directory
[07:16] <xeeder> when i type runlevel it returns: "N 2" what is N here? 2 is current run level right?
[07:16] <otak> xeeder: N is the previous runlevel ie. none, check yer man page
[07:16] <reisio> sorry /boot/grub
[07:16] <guest1337> I'm running a live cd, do I need to go to that hard drive's directory instead?
[07:16] <Lightz> Hi. I want to see the input of my digital camera (canon 1100d) on my ubuntu 12.04 screen. How can I do it? I checked /dev but did not find the device. My build in cam of my netbook got /dev/video0 but I found no video1 for my cam. But I still can mount the storage of the cam. Do I have to install a driver? I was using VLC. My onboard cam works flawless. When plugged in I can take pictures with my digicam. Thanks.
[07:16] <guest1337> ah k
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> guest1337, This computer start out with W8?
[07:17] <guest1337> Should I paste the whole text file?
[07:17] <guest1337> well
[07:17] <reisio> yeah sure, at dpaste.com
[07:17] <guest1337> I built this computer, installed windows 7
[07:17] <guest1337> then installed w8
[07:18] <reisio> ...
[07:18] <guest1337> then installed ubuntu
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> guest1337, No gpt ever right?
[07:18] <reisio> and?
[07:18] <guest1337> gpt?
[07:18] <guest1337> basically, I've reinstalled ubuntu a few times
[07:18] <guest1337> anyways pasting
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> I will take that as a yes, hehe
[07:18] <guest1337> http://pastebin.com/FnKnHKb5
[07:19] <guest1337> thanks for helping me out, by the way
[07:19] <xeeder> otak, how to do that ? man check?
[07:20] <xeeder> !man
[07:21] <reisio> guest1337: others coming?
[07:21] <guest1337> pardon?
[07:21] <ponch0> hello
[07:21] <guest1337> others?
[07:21] <reisio> needed three things, not one
[07:21] <guest1337> oh crap, sorry
[07:21] <reisio> hi poncho
[07:21] <reisio> :)
[07:22] <xeeder> otak, "If there is no previous runlevel in the record, the
[07:22] <xeeder>        letter N will be substituted." thats all written for N; but i want to know my current runlevel not previous one
[07:22] <guest1337> permission denied for /etc/fstab
[07:23] <reisio> shouldn't be
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> guest1337, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:23] <guest1337> here's lsblk http://pastebin.com/9L3utScm
[07:24] <auronandace> gksudo | wilee-nilee
[07:24] <otak> xeeder: 2 is current runlevel, you are right
[07:24] <auronandace> !gksudo | wilee-nilee
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> yeah yeah I know
[07:24] <guest1337> got it, pasting
[07:24] <guest1337> http://pastebin.com/YpHikq4Y
[07:25] <reisio> grub.cfg looks incomplete, you paste it all?
[07:25] <guest1337> I'll check again.
[07:27] <xeeder> how to do that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136044/ as ubuntu is slightly different so i am having hard time with following instruction in the paste.
[07:28] <reisio> xeeder: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[07:28] <guest1337> so, I'm doing 'cd /boot/grub/' and then 'ls', the file isn't listed. Even doing /boot/grub/grub.cfg says that there's no such file or directory.
[07:28] <guest1337> Checking again to see if I did it right.
[07:28] <Kristall> So Intel/ATi/nVidia don't want to support Mir and all lean towards Wayland/Weston... so how are future ubuntus going to use desktop graphics drivers?
[07:29] <xeeder> reisio, i want to install nvidia driver; which requires changing runlevel and killing X window
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Kristall, we'll have to wait and see
[07:30] <reisio> xeeder: nope
[07:30] <xeeder> reisio,  i am following this guide: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/README/newusertips.html as it has been recommended for new users who want to install nvidia drivers
[07:31] <guest1337> yeah, I can't get to grub.cfg, it says that it doesn't exist.
[07:31] <reisio> don't follow anything on nvidia.com
[07:31] <auronandace> xeeder: why aren't you using the nvidia drivers from the repos (the ones that are tried and tested)
[07:31] <Kristall> I just use xorg edgers for graphics drivers, manually sticking in graphics drivers can make a mess.
[07:31] <xeeder> auronandace,  why cant i use latest ones?
[07:32] <auronandace> xeeder: every kernel update would require you to reinstall them, sounds like quite a hassle to me
[07:32] <guest1337> Okay, it's 12:30 AM, I have to sleep. I'm going to try and fix this tomorrow. Thanks, though.
[07:32] <reisio> guest1337: find /boot/ -type f -iname '*grub*c*f*'
[07:32] <guest1337> oh
[07:32] <xeeder> auronandace,  i am using default one; 3.8 and i meant to keep it for long time
[07:32] <guest1337> I'll try that
[07:33] <auronandace> xeeder: yes and that gets updated with security updates through the official repos
[07:33] <xeeder> auronandace,  and its all written here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/README/installdriver.html
[07:33] <reisio> don't follow that :p
[07:33] <xeeder> auronandace,  what do you suggest then? installing it from official repos?
[07:34] <auronandace> xeeder: absolutely
[07:34] <auronandace> xeeder: thats what the repos are there for
[07:34] <xeeder> old drivers had a issue like blank screen or something like that; and i have searched around a bit and found that latest are the ones that are good
[07:35] <guest1337> I typed that into the terminal (find /boot/ -type f -iname '*grub*c*f*') and it didn't do anything.
[07:35] <otak> If guest1337 is on the live cd and wants to examine the installed files, need to mount hard drive / ssd first and cd to that...
[07:35] <auronandace> !nomodeset | xeeder
[07:35] <guest1337> kk
[07:36] <reisio> guest1337: anything in /boot/?
[07:38] <guest1337> I think previously (through another tutorial to try and fix this) I had mounted the partition (sdb1) to /mnt
[07:38] <guest1337> How can I get to it?
[07:38] <xeeder> auronandace,  "Installing proprietary nvidia drivers usually makes this option no longer necessary, so it may not be needed to make this option permanent, just for one boot until you installed the nvidia drivers." how to set it for one boot only?
[07:38] <guest1337> ah, I have to go anyways
[07:39] <guest1337> bye
[07:39] <xeeder> auronandace,  i am talking about nomodeset
[07:39] <auronandace> xeeder: it should say so in that thread
[07:39] <xeeder> auronandace,  it doesnt :/
[07:40] <xeeder> auronandace,  found it
[07:40] <auronandace> xeeder: yes it does
[07:42] <Kristall> Soo... how big is Kylin since PRC is pushing it?
[07:42] <Kristall> It'd be funny seing Ubuntu surpass Windows in China
[07:43] <auronandace> Kristall: this channel is for support issues only
[07:43] <KnownSyntax> Linux Deepin is the best China based distro based from Ubuntu I've seen
[07:43] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, deepin?  never heard of it.  kylin maybe?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !kylin
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !ubuntukylin
[07:44] <KnownSyntax> Yeah, Google it. It has the best desktop manager ever (based from gnome) but it looks and feels just like Windows 7.
[07:44] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, http://www.ubuntukylin.com/#
[07:45] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: isn't supported here, not from ubuntu
[07:45] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, kylin is the official ubuntu linux distro per agreement with the PRC and ubuntu
[07:45] <xeeder> auronandace,  if i install it from repository then should i need to configure the kernel too? or i should be worry free?
[07:45] <xeeder> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[07:45] <xeeder> sudo apt-get update
[07:45] <xeeder> sudo apt-get install nvidia-325"
[07:45] <KnownSyntax> I know that.
[07:45] <KnownSyntax> But I wish ubuntu did support it
[07:45] <auronandace> xeeder: i never said use the ppa
[07:45] <auronandace> xeeder: you should be worry free
[07:45] <KnownSyntax> I mean look at it; http://www.linuxdeepin.com/index.en.html It's so beautiful. Sad how Ubuntu only supports distros that use it's same layout (unity, etc.)
[07:46] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, not likely to happen.  see kylin
[07:46] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: ubuntu only supports distros it makes
[07:46] <KnownSyntax> Lol
[07:48] <reisio> Ubuntu supports many DEs other than Unity...
[07:48] <reisio> and also versions it does not make...
[07:48] <reisio> please make sense, ye
[07:48] <KnownSyntax> Well yes, but not in Ubuntu itself (AKA Kubuntu etc.).
[07:48] <reisio> official distro
[07:48] <KnownSyntax> I meant like core in just Ubuntu, not any other distro.
[07:48] <cfhowlett> !distro
[07:49] <KnownSyntax> Correct.
[07:49] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that's a horrible DE layout
[07:49] <KnownSyntax> What is?
[07:49] <reisio> you can use KDE on 'Ubuntu'
[07:49] <Kristall> I need to use 13.10 or update my kernel to support my hardware as best as possible... hmm... I wonder which .10 is most stable. I'm scared updating kernel because that will break things and I'm too lazy to do fixes when .10 is so close.
[07:49] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that deepin thing, why has it got all that wasted space at the bottom with that silly bar?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, trying to mimic win7 would be my guess
[07:49] <KnownSyntax> It's supposed to be like Windows 7, aka task bar. The icons are like the "quick start" icons and also show what is running etc.
[07:50] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that's stupid
[07:50] <gordonjcp> it wastes so much space, it should be at the side like in Unity
[07:50] <Kristall> Looks better than windows imo... and ubuntu should pick up some notes fom it and Kylin.
[07:50] <gordonjcp> I started using Windows a couple of weeks ago, that's one of the things that really annoys me about it
[07:50] <KnownSyntax> Eh, if you just started using Linux, would you go for something that looks like it and feels like it, or something unfamilar? That's the point. For someone who has used linux before, it would be somewhat pointless unless you loved the looks of Windows 7
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Kristall, well as its NOT supported here ... I'd say we're pretty much offtoic
[07:50] <reisio> notes on the desktop paradigm everyone already uses?
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: no, you'd be better going for something that looks completely different
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that way you won't trip yourself up on all the things that are *nearly* the same
[07:51] <KnownSyntax> Not if you are a noob though, lol.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: <shrug>
[07:51] <KnownSyntax> You'd be so lost.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: I'm a total Windows noob
[07:52] <Kristall> Ubuntu's top bar is a pain when you want to run a program fill-screen...
[07:52] <KnownSyntax> But I do love Ubuntu, just wish somethings were different about it and what not.
[07:52] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: I find it easier to get around Windows being totally different from my Ubuntu desktop, than if it was nearly-but-not-quite the same
[07:52] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: perhaps you can voice your opinions in #ubuntu-discuss
[07:52] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: car analogy, and a true story
[07:52] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: I have two cars, very similar, both Citroëns
[07:53] <KnownSyntax> gordonjcp: Hm true, although others dislike it.
[07:53] <Ben64> !ot
[07:53] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: both the same model, Citroën CX, but different versions - one is the older Series 1, the other is the Series 2
[07:53] <Kristall> Anyone know which ubuntu derivative is the most popular? Ku Xu Lu
[07:53] <KnownSyntax> auronandace: I know, was just saying since someone brought up a chinese distro etc.
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Kristall, see distrowatch
[07:54] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: they are *almost* identical inside, but on the switches beside the steering wheel the headlight and windscreen wiper switches are swapped around
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !derivative
[07:54] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: and this is a support channel, not a discussion channel...
[07:54] <Kristall> cfhowlett: DIstrowatch's numbers are garbage. :-/
[07:54] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: so every time I go to turn the lights on when I'm driving one after driving the other, I switch the wipers off
[07:54] <Ben64> gordonjcp: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: *so so nearly* the same
[07:55] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: you're going to run into the same problem by making your DE look so nearly the same as Win 7
[07:55] <Kristall> Is it possible to make ubuntu's top bar autohide like the side bar?
[07:55] <auronandace> Kristall: i don't think you can
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Kristall: I don't think you can but I believe you can make it transparent
[07:57] <Isara> You can do that in XFCE, but I am not sure about Gnome/Unity.
[07:58] <Kristall> Isara: Funny you mention that because I'm using LXDE because I can't figure out how to make the top bar hide... could do it in xfce.
[07:58] <reisio> Xfce
[07:58] <MonkeyDust> Kristall  i guess you can do that with unity-tweak-tool, in the 'panel' section
[08:04] <republican_devil> how do i learn vlan network stuff in ubuntu? and iscsi or fcoe or ataoe?
[08:05] <Kristall> republican_devil: make a virtual interface(hook a vpn to it) and set firewall rules?
[08:13] <xeeder> i was updating kernel to 3.11.1 and found this error at the end of installation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136154/ please HELP
[08:16] <xeeder> i was updating kernel to 3.11.1 and found this error at the end of installation: http://paste2.org/WaOXNZkP please HELP
[08:16] <xeeder> ubuntu paste not working. so i pasted it to paste2
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> !patience | xeeder not even supported
[08:16] <djlanz> restart then keep pressing esc den log on to recovery mode then u can fix broken packages
[08:17] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  ubuntupaste was not working; so it was a dead end with my question..
[08:17] <republican_devil> how hard is it to setup a big box of disks raid 10ed   asa a iscsi SAN?
[08:17] <Isara> Here's the problem Found Windows 8 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[08:17] <Isara> Sorry, couldn't help myself.
[08:17] <republican_devil> and how well does xen support win2008?
[08:17] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: Not Very
[08:17] <gordonjcp> don't know about Xen and Windows
[08:17] <gordonjcp> iSCSI is dead easy
[08:18] <republican_devil> what are the overall steps of preparing a ubuntu box to be used asa SAN?
[08:18] <Kristall> I use KVM instead of Xen because it's easy and I'm lazy.
[08:18] <republican_devil> I am assuming ethernet cat6
[08:18] <Kristall> Windows works on KVM just fine for me...
[08:18] <xeeder> Isara, is it the problem windows 8? i am using it for my bitlocked drives
[08:18] <republican_devil> ok how about KVM supporting 2008 then?
[08:18] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: install Ubuntu, set up some sort of partition for storage, install iSCSI
[08:18] <republican_devil> when you configure the iscsi part what do you do? is it documented howto?
[08:18] <republican_devil> I never did it
[08:18] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: you might be better asking in ##windows, I've only been using Windows for acouple of weeks
[08:19] <republican_devil> yeah I hate windows
[08:19] <republican_devil> a lot
[08:19] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/iscsi-initiator.html
[08:19] <Kristall> republican_devil: I don't run them, but the hosting company I'm with seems to be running 2008 on KVM well, no 3D GPU accel though.
[08:19] <rocxxx> fsf
[08:19] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: ... except that's an initiator
[08:20] <gordonjcp> and you want target
[08:20] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: http://www.heath-bar.com/blog/?p=203
[08:20] <rocxxx> hii
[08:20] <ling> zm
[08:21] <ling> 怎么合并ubuntu和deepin
[08:21] <Isara> http://www.heath-bar.com/blog/?p=643
[08:21] <Isara> Which user interface is this? :o
[08:21] <xeeder> problem is with this i think: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169
[08:22] <gordonjcp> xeeder: maybe you should work out what package provides that firmware, if you use that network interface
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> Isara, That site is listed as malicious
[08:22] <Isara> I am using it on Firefox and it works well.
[08:22] <Isara> Who listed it as malicious, Google?
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> norton
[08:23] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: it's not listed as malicious by google
[08:23] <Isara> Oh, o, great norton, whom passes judgement on people's blogs as malicious.
[08:23] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: what's norton?
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> symantec a av
[08:23] <Isara> gordonjcp: An anti-virus when deployed at a small company will cost way more than your pension.
[08:24] <_Ali>  www.points4fun.blogspot.com
[08:24] <ace_me> hi all
[08:24] <gordonjcp> Isara: anti-virus?
[08:24] <_Ali> hello
[08:24] <gordonjcp> Isara: are viruses still a thing?  I remember Atari STs used to get them
[08:25] <Isara> gordonnjcp: Something that helps people from downloading totallylegitfile.exe.gif.jpg.avi and getting rooted.
[08:25] <Kristall> gordonjcp: I hear Windows gets them when people's IQs are under 95.
[08:25] <Isara> Still, nobody answered my question.
[08:26] <Isara> It looks like XFCE, but the fonts look so much better.
[08:27] <gordonjcp> Isara: what was the question, sorry?
[08:27] <Isara> I used 0.1% of my brain and read the blog, figured out that what the blogger is using is http://elementaryos.org/
[08:32] <illiser> NickServ illiser qwer123
[08:33] <illiser> NickServ REGISTER illiser qwer123<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:34] <Isara> Whoops.
[08:34] <Isara> That's a weak password, btw.
[08:34] <gordonjcp> well
[08:34] <gordonjcp> it is *now*...
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> !register | illiser change the password
[08:46] <republican_devil> anyone here running a iscsi SAN using ubuntu?
[08:46] <republican_devil> sharing space with a windows box?
[08:46] <republican_devil> 1g e moves at about 90MB/s
[08:46] <republican_devil> so that will be the limit eh?
[08:47] <republican_devil> without nic trunking..
[08:50] <Guest47021> need help, just installed xubuntu  How to fix  130 processes and  +80% cpu usage
[08:51] <Strit> fix 130 processes? That's low compared to mine. :)
[08:51] <republican_devil> dont use kde?
[08:51] <Guest47021> ugh
[08:51] <republican_devil> or gnome?
[08:51] <Strit> but the 80 CPU usage is quuite high. :)
[08:51] <Guest47021> 100% if i have firefox open
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> Guest47021, you would need to identify what is using the cpu
[08:52] <Strit> yeah. what process is using most CPU?
[08:52] <Guest47021> yes, task manager was using about 50% lel
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> Guest47021, install htop and look
[08:52] <Strit> using 50% all the time?
[08:53] <Guest47021> more or less
[08:53] <smw94> after installing .deb package i got this : Error: timeout was reached, here the detail : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136260/
[08:53] <ubuntufan> how to find ubuntu oereating system files in the system?
[08:53] <bitbuzzer> I have an issue with openSSL version mismatch in ubuntu 11.10. I get an error message when trying to send email via /usr/sbin/sendmail: http://pastebin.com/WVuK0EK8
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> !11.10 | bitbuzzer
[08:54] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufan, can you give some details and end goals?
[08:54] <ubuntufan> about the location of ubuntu files in system?
[08:54] <gordonjcp> ubuntufan: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> smw94, That is a ppa.
[08:56] <ubuntufan> i want to know the location of the ubuntu os files?
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufan, That makes no sense
[08:56] <smw94> wilee-nilee: thats alwasy happened although deb source is local file
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> smw94, that is a update from the ppa, why are installing a deb, post the whole cli.
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufan, OS files are all over the install, be specific.
[09:01] <rafi_> Can someone help building 'termite' with its dependecy: vte >= 0.34 with patch t oexpose functions needed for keyboard selection. https://github.com/thestinger/termite
[09:02] <vinceableworld> Greetings. I'd like to figure out why my wi-fi keeps dropping and I have to manually disconnect and reconnect - then it doesn't last long.
[09:03] <vinceableworld> alright tried a couple of fixes I found online - no luck... would like to figure out how to find out what I already did (some type of log) and undo that since it didn't solve the problem
[09:03] <ubuntufan> where the ubuntu os files will be stored?
[09:03] <smw94> wilee-nilee: same error, update from ppa or dpkg -i blabla.deb
[09:04] <dsample> Hi, I'm trying to share a directory with a KVM guest OS, but the 9p mount command keeps telling me the mount point doesn't exist
[09:05] <mooler> ubuntufan: the OS files are all over the install. Pls. give some more info about what you trying to do..
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> smw94, try changing the repo, really from what you have showed it is a bit hard to figure whats going on.
[09:05] <mooler> ubuntufan: ..else nobody would be able to help you
[09:05] <republican_devil> ubuntu doesnt run like that linux security think be deafutl does it?
[09:05] <republican_devil> shoot whats it called.....selinux?
[09:05] <republican_devil> right?
[09:05] <republican_devil> 12.04lts
[09:05] <republican_devil> amd64
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> !enter | republican_devil
[09:06] <ace_me> do I need to create masterzone for domain.com on 2 different servers ?
[09:06] <vinceableworld> ...pull over republican_devil.
[09:07] <ubuntufan> exit
[09:07] <ubuntufan> ok bye.
[09:07] <ace_me> I have a domain and need to setup 2 NS's and I have a vps with only 1 IP address ! what should I do ?
[09:08] <vinceableworld> You would think linux users would generally be smarter than to call themselves "republican" or "democrat"
[09:09] <wilee-nilee> hehe confirmation bias
[09:10] <Myrtti> vinceableworld: since this isn't a political debate channel, very few people pay attention or even care.
[09:10] <dsample> ace_me, use a free DNS host instead of building them yourself?
[09:11] <vinceableworld> Again - if anyone knows something about this wi-fi issue I'd appreciate some feedback.
[09:12] <vinceableworld> or perhaps a more targeted channed to try? #networking?
[09:12] <vinceableworld> Works fine while the comp is active... but when it resumes it's got spotty connection
[09:13] <Ribas1981> http://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=63274
[09:14] <republican_devil> what is the limit of software raid 5?
[09:15] <Daughain> Does anyone know of any install or update issues with samba4 on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:16] <ace_me> dsample have an example ?
[09:17] <MrsAngelD> ,
[09:18] <dsample> ace_me: xname.org, cloudns.net, dns.he.net,
[09:23] <Rothaarig3> hello, i have a question about KDE/Ubuntu 12.04.2LTS, i have a USB headset from Logitech and want to get a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro, USB device for 3.5mm stereo headsets, is it recognised in the sound configuration menu and running under alsa as guest ? iam not the admin of the machine
[09:27] <nzeoi> i installed openssh-server, how can i prevent ssh service to execute at start-up?
[09:34] <Rothaarig3> ZZZzzzZZZ
[09:41] <oaulakh> how to search package for apt-get
[09:42] <oaulakh> how to search package for apt-get
[09:42] <oaulakh> how to search package for apt-get
[09:42] <FloodBot1> oaulakh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <republican_devil> apt-cache search postgresql
[09:44] <lasers> !boot | nzeoi
[09:44] <sony> tigrenok
[09:44] <viive> how to undelete folders from cleared ext4 filesystem? (not formatted, just removed).... Please, help
[09:44] <sony> hello
[09:45] <Ben64> !undelete | viive
[09:45] <sony> а по русски кто нибудь тут говорит.
[09:45] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136398/   please review this
[09:45] <gordonjcp> !en | sony
[09:45] <gordonjcp> !ru | sony
[09:46] <nzeoi> thanks lasers
[09:46] <Rothaarig3> berlin is empty ^ ^
[09:46] <Daughain> Can anyone help me with samba in 10.04?
[09:46] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136398/ what should i do for installing xchat
[09:47] <Ben64> oaulakh: search for xchat in the ubuntu software center
[09:47] <xeeder> hi; i have this weird display; the right side of screen has doubled up; the upper taskbar is also showing two sets of info
[09:47] <sony> как всю систему на русский переделать
[09:47] <Ben64> Daughain: 10.04 is no longer supported for desktops
[09:47] <sony> при загрузке рус ставила и все равно все на английском хелп ми
[09:47] <Daughain> No wonder the update screwed me.
[09:47] <gordonjcp> !ru | sony
[09:48] <Daughain> Thanks Ben64
[09:48] <Ben64> Daughain: its really old anyway, you should upgrade to 12.04
[09:49] <viive> ubottu: thanks! ^^ you give me hope to recovery!
[09:49] <viive> wow ^^
[09:49] <Rothaarig3> i found out that the creative sound device is supported, but has a bugreport from Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:28:25 bug 1012031 can i use this sound device as guest or do i have to install some driver for it ?
[09:49] <majek> hi i need help im not werg good english
[09:49] <sony> человечки я вам не мешаю
[09:50] <oaulakh> if i search that package in ubuntu software centre it freze at updating cache
[09:50] <gordonjcp> !ru | sony
[09:50] <majek> who speak polish
[09:50] <IdleOne> !pl
[09:51] <majek> #ubuntu-pl.
[09:51] <gordonjcp> majek: and frankly your English is probably better than most people's Polish in here ;-)
[09:51] <oaulakh> how to install rpm in ubuntu
[09:52] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: ideally you don't
[09:52] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:52] <oaulakh> i wnat to install xchat
[09:52] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136398/
[09:52] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: there are Ubuntu packages for that
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> oaulakh  xchat is in the ubuntu repos
[09:53] <Rothaarig3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !info xchat
[09:53] <Rothaarig3> or i talk german for now on lol
[09:53] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> Rothaarig3  type    /join #ubuntu-de
[09:54] <xeeder> i am getting this: http://i.imgur.com/nieaukD.png after kernel update; somebody please help me
[09:54] <Rothaarig3> nah i was in ubuntu berlin once
[09:54] <sony> http://vk.com/id70650867
[09:54] <sony> fenks
[09:54] <oaulakh> ubuntu 13.04
[09:55] <sony> ok
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> oaulakh  in a terminal, type    sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:55] <xeeder> the right side has been doubled i think; including desktop and taskbar
[09:55] <sony> a v pxp
[09:57] <xeeder> i am getting this: http://i.imgur.com/nieaukD.png after kernel update; somebody please help me
[09:57] <oaulakh> i type but getting error
[09:57] <xeeder> right part of screen is messed up
[09:58] <gordonjcp> !repeat | xeeder
[09:58] <Rothaarig3> thanks monkeydust
[09:59] <Ben64> oaulakh: pastebin the outputs of "uname -a" "lsb_release -r" "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list*" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list*/*"
[10:00] <lonely_M> Nick Alter_M
[10:02] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136436/
[10:03] <mooler> I run Lubuntu 12.10, Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:26 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:04] <oaulakh> http://imgur.com/YiIzWoO
[10:04] <mooler> it's a very old machine, non-PAE. How do I upgrade the kernel?
[10:04] <republican_devil> apt-get upgrade!
[10:04] <Ben64> oaulakh: ok.. pastebin "sudo apt-get update"
[10:07] <mooler> republican_devil: that would install the latest kernel that won't work on this old machine, I need to stick with kernel 3.2 from Precise. But don't know how to keep it update as the system itself is Quantal..
[10:09] <Ben64> uh... you should use 12.04 if you want 12.04's kernel
[10:09] <Ben64> we can't help you with a frankensystem
[10:13] <mooler> Maybe I need to download and install current kernel 3.2 from Precise manually... Will try ;)
[10:13] <Ben64> mooler: no
[10:13] <Ben64> mooler: just install 12.04
[10:14] <Williams323> hi
[10:15] <xeeder_1> Can anyone suggest me a comprehensive guide regarding kernel upgrade please??
[10:15] <chorgox> morning everyone...  im in ubuntu 13.04 and the other day I installed the new kernel  3.11 after that my ati video card started to act funny.. [BIG NOOB QUESTION HERE] is this normal everytime i update the kernel some of the drivers can stop working and stuff?
[10:15] <Ben65> xeeder_1: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:16] <chorgox> i do have a dual monitor setup and trying to reinstall ati drivers was impossible so i had to go back
[10:16] <Ben65> chorgox: and where did you get such a kernel
[10:17] <chorgox> i follow this one ben http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/linux-kernel-3-11-released-install-upgrade-in-ubuntu-13-0412-04/
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> xeeder_1  plenty tutorials, here's one http://askubuntu.com/questions/119080/how-to-update-kernel-to-the-latest-mainline-version-without-any-distro-upgrade
[10:18] <Ben65> chorgox: that method is unsupported, and can leave you vulnerable
[10:20] <chorgox> so I should wait until the kernel is updated via software update center or whatever is called then ?
[10:20] <xeeder> can anyone please suggest me a comprehensive guide regarding kernel upgrade please?
[10:20] <Ben64> chorgox: yes
[10:20] <Ben64> xeeder: explain what you want
[10:21] <Ben64> chorgox: if you use LTS versions, you can get the new kernels when they come out
[10:21] <xeeder> i updated my kernel to 3.11.1 and screen got messed up; so i reverted back to previous one; i need to know all the dos and donts before and after i install kernel
[10:21] <Ben64> why is everyone upgrading their kernel manually tonight :|
[10:22] <xeeder> Ben64,  my current kernel is 3.8
[10:22] <chorgox> i donno  i learned from android and i want o useit here lool
[10:22] <xeeder> i need new kernel for nvidia driver
[10:22] <Ben64> xeeder: installing the kernel manually like that is not supported in #ubuntu and can cause problems, don't do it
[10:22] <willem> hi , i'm having troubles with my new soundcard, i just installed my terratec aureon 5.1 pci soundcard in my pc but is doesnt work
[10:23] <xeeder> Ben64,  alright then can you please tell me how to install nvidia optimus driver?
[10:23] <willem> if i do dmesg it gives a couple of thousand thimes this as output ' 18.725306] cmipci: invalid PCM pointer: 0xffff"
[10:23] <Ben64> xeeder: i don't have any optimus systems, sorry. the latest stuff i heard about it is to use "bumblebee"
[10:24] <willem> in alsamixer (terminal) i can see my soundcard but in sound in gui i can't see it
[10:24] <xeeder> Ben64,  nvidia released the official drivers so will it not be better to use these instead of using unofficial ones?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> xeeder  is this useful http://followthegeeks.com/a-noobs-guide-to-installing-nvidia-optimus-driver-in-ubuntu/
[10:26] <xeeder> MonkeyDust,  i am onto it..
[10:29] <willem> does anyone has a idea ?
[10:36] <gbwui> HeyM-Cld, i need to learn linux ubuntu to manage my vps, i do not know how to get started. may someone advise
[10:36] <gbwui> i am sorry i did not mean to mention HeyM-Cld :(
[10:41] <kenshiro> Hi, I just upgraded my Ubuntu 12.04 to hardware enablement stack using: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-quantal libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-quantal  as explained in wiki. Sound quality is a little worse now, so I want to revert back to original stack. What is the best procedure for this?
[10:41] <willem> hi , i'm having troubles with my new soundcard, i just installed my terratec aureon 5.1 pci soundcard in my pc but is doesnt work
[10:41] <willem> if i do dmesg it gives a couple of thousand thimes this as output ' 18.725306] cmipci: invalid PCM pointer: 0xffff"
[10:41] <willem> in alsamixer (terminal) i can see my soundcard but in sound in gui i can't see it
[10:41] <willem> does anyone has a idea ?
[10:45] <GrovRutaN> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1279036_10151725360042732_1303968933_o.jpg
[10:45] <GrovRutaN> u gotta love ubuntu
[10:54] <willem> in alsamixer (terminal) i can see my soundcard but in sound in gui i can't see i
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|willem,
[10:54] <willem> k
[10:56] <xeeder> finally found the solution; awesome reply by Lekensteyn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36930/how-well-do-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus-work/
[10:59] <lionrouge> hi ppl
[11:00] <lionrouge> tell me please which Steam  .deb package architectures Valve provide
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !steam|lionrouge,
[11:02] <lionrouge> ubottu, thanks
[11:02] <yogger> Всем привет, проблемка ifconfig выдает только lo хотя lspci выдает инфу по сетевухе
[11:02] <gordonjcp> !ru | yogger
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !ru|yogger,
[11:03] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, hey just had my afternoon coffee and keyboard fingers are tingling!
[11:03] <yogger>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:07] <Dwade09> hi i need to know how to get the wifi to work for a hp pavilion dv2 laptop?
[11:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Emmanuel_Chanel, greetings
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !wifi|Dwade09,
[11:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm trying converting my IRC client from xchat to HexChat. And I cannot request DCC CHAT on HexChat...
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Emmanuel_Chanel, firefox has a chatzilla plugin ...
[11:08] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm asking help of that problem on HexChat's channel. But I got a little possibility that linux kernel of my Ubuntu router doesn't work well.
[11:09] <ikonia> Emmanuel_Chanel: that just makes no sense at all
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Emmanuel_Chanel, ubuntu makes no router ...
[11:09] <ikonia> Emmanuel_Chanel: you've been working fine in another client - your new client won't allow it so you say "my kernel is not working" - that makes zero sense
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[11:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, greetings
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know i found slfphone a great alternative for 12voip calls
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: hi mate ; )
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you know to wich release 13.04 will follow?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, after 13.04 is 13.10
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !saucy
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: ok tnx
[11:21] <Ionikk> Hey, I'm looking for advice on how to solve an audio error on a MacBook 've just installed 12.04 LTS on. Anyone?
[11:21] <Ionikk> *I'vw
[11:22] <Ionikk> **I've
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !mac|Ionikk,
[11:23] <Ionikk> There's a red LED that occasionally lighs up in the headphone jack, and headphones don't work. Anyone know how to solve this?
[11:23] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:23] <Ionikk> *lights
[11:24] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499, greetings
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: is your audio driver installed correctly?
[11:24] <Ionikk> It's an Intel audio onboard device, I think. Where can I install Ubuntu specific Intel drivers?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> someone knows a terminal with coloured text (like ls)
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: did you check your 'addtional drivers'?
[11:25] <Ionikk> Mm-hm, it only brought up graphics and wireless card drivers.
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: did you had to install other graphics srivers then default one?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> *drivers
[11:26] <Ionikk> Mm-hm, I installed version 319 of the Nvidia GeForce 9400M driver.
[11:27] <Ionikk> Why do you ask?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: well in some cases it might influence audio, not sure if this is your case..
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: anything usefull as error in /var/log?
[11:28] <Ionikk> Well, I had to update the driver in order to run a certain program. I'll check Intel's drivers downloads. And uh...lemme get back to you on that.
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe pulseaudio shows some errors in logs..
[11:28] <Ionikk> If I were to look for anything out of the ordinary, what would the file be?
[11:29] <Ionikk> Bear in mind that I have limited programming knowledge.
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: really depends on different systems, bu i would go for pulseaudio troubles
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: try /var/log/syslog.1
[11:29] <Ionikk> Nothing on it has "pulseaudio". And okay, doing that.
[11:30] <Ionikk> Anything I should look for? There's no "1" by the way, only syslog.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: not sure if this might be usefull for your system, but check anyway: http://askubuntu.com/questions/314043/how-to-get-sound-on-macbook-pro-4-1
[11:32] <Ionikk> Okay, thanks. It may be an article I've already looked up...
[11:33] <Ionikk> Hm...looks a little technical. Anything I can do from that by the looks of it?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: wich macbook is it exactly?
[11:34] <Ionikk> I think it's the last one of the original "MacBook" brand. How can I know exactly?
[11:35] <Ionikk> It's not a Pro or Air, I know that.
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: not sure, i dont use mac very often
[11:35] <Ionikk> Hm...any diagnostic tools I can download to tell me? I think it's a 5.1.
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe this could help troubleshoot aswell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Microphone
[11:37] <guest_____> i have a hp paviliondv2 and cant get the wifi to work  when itry i get this uder additioal drivers Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[11:38] <cfhowlett> guest_____, what wifi chipset to you have
[11:38] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  its a broadcom sta driver
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|guest__
[11:39] <Ionikk> lotuspsychje: I tried running the alsamixer but it didn't seem to have any solutions.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> guest_____, I've had great success installing broadcom from assets in the 12.04 iso.  90 seconds of terminal work and I've got a connection.
[11:39] <Ionikk> And it turns out that it's a RealTek, not Intel.
[11:40] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  i am lost on that site
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/191409/realtek-hd-audio-driver-for-ubuntu-12-04
[11:41] <Ionikk> AH this may be it
[11:42] <cfhowlett> guest_____, ok, first open a terminal and run this command to identify your specifics:   lspci -vvnn|grep 14e4
[11:42] <Ionikk> Well, the light is now off, but the headphone audio still comes out of the speakers, not the jack.
[11:43] <Ionikk> That's the main problem.
[11:46] <guest_____> cfhowlett: lspci -vvnn|grep 14e4 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01)
[11:46] <Ionikk> By the way, thanks for taking your time to help me, lotuspsychje.
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: how about restarting pulseaudio
[11:46] <Ionikk> How would I go about doing that?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> guest_____, so: BCM4322 on 14e4:432b
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: try service pulseaudio restart
[11:47] <Ionikk> In terminal, or the dash?
[11:47] <guest_____> so what do i do now cfhowlett
[11:47] <cfhowlett> guest_____, according to the tutorial; install either bcmwl-kernel-source or the broadcom-sta drivers
[11:48] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  how?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> guest_____, what ubuntu do you have running?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: in terminal
[11:48] <Ionikk> K, doing that.
[11:48] <guest_____> cfhowlett: ithink 12.4
[11:49] <Ionikk> Put the command in, it opened up a new line. Does that mean it worked?
[11:49] <matubaum> I'm about to instlall linux in a new computer, and I'm confused about support for UEFI. I've been reading there's support for Secureboot, but it's not stable. In the other hand I read about the advantages of using it. So, I wanted an advice about whether it's convenient to install it with uefi, or I will find a lot of issues?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> guest_____, terminal time:   lsb_release -a
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe this interesting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150887/sound-from-both-headphones-and-speakers
[11:49] <guest_____> cfhowlett: i have 12.4
[11:50] <cfhowlett> guest_____, good.  do you still have the boot cd/usb?
[11:50] <Ionikk> My problem is the reverse of that, both the speaker and headphone audio comes through my speakers.
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | matubaum
[11:50] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  no they left with it
[11:50] <oaulakh> finally install the xchat
[11:50] <oaulakh> how you all doin
[11:50] <cfhowlett> guest_____, errrr .... you need it.
[11:51] <matubaum> ubottu: I knowm but that's not my question
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> matubaum: i recently installed 13.04 on an uefi win8 machine and worked out of the box, even not changed bios settings
[11:51] <oaulakh> yeah its easy to dual boot
[11:51] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  i wont see them foir 3 months
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> i would not recommend dualboot :p
[11:52] <oaulakh> then?
[11:52] <mjawayk> lotuspsychje: that depends entirley on the system sounds like you got lucky (as I did)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> guest_____, so?  you have internet: fire up a torrent and download that bad boy!
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:52] <rory> lotuspsychje: Why not, I've never had a single problem with dual booting since about 2005
[11:52] <matubaum> lotuspsychje: Is it possible support for uefi works better in ubuntu than other distributions like arch?