[07:22] <xrs> are you running from a live USB, if you were to save a file to it would it still be there next time you booted? why cant you look at that page
[07:22] <kittenmittens> and i never see post
[07:22] <Sara> hey, I m using dualboot win 7 ubuntu 12.04. needed to reinstall win 7. used bootrepair recomended option and now my win is working but grub is not
[07:22] <Sara> I don't see any option to log in ubuntu
[07:22] <kepler> and you get through the entire install successfully, and it asks you to reboot, then does this?
[07:22] <Ben64> !grub | Sara
[07:23] <kittenmittens> no, it works fine and lovingly
[07:23] <Sara> thanks ben
[07:23] <kittenmittens> untill i update, or install graphics drivers, or sometimes randomly after a restart
[07:24] <kepler> ok, so when you update, are you using the provided opensource drivers, or proprietary?
[07:24] <Sara> but it is just saying to use boot repair
[07:24] <Sara> I already used bootrepair
[07:24] <greek> Hi how do I check whether my system is 32 or 64 bit? Thanks.
[07:24] <kittenmittens> tryed both
[07:24] <Sara> my win is working
[07:24] <kepler> greek, uname -a
[07:24] <greek> kepler thanks
[07:25] <kepler> kittenmittens, then it is something else. try doing only software updates, without drivers. see if those work
[07:25] <kittenmittens> kelper is a space teliscoe that found alot of planets
[07:25] <kepler> is that machine on right now? if you hit ctrl+alt+f3, does it go to a console?
[07:25] <kittenmittens> ok.. on 12.10 or 13.04?
[07:26] <kittenmittens> no its completly frozen
[07:26] <kepler> numlock doesn't go off and on if you hit it?
[07:26] <kittenmittens> no
[07:27] <kittenmittens> so want me to install 13.04 or 12.10?
[07:27] <kepler> well, you're right, does't seem like hardware.
[07:27] <Ben64> why not 12.04?
[07:27] <kepler> id go with 12.10
[07:28] <tahitipetey> How would I get my *public* IPv6 address from within the terminal? (I'm ssh'd into an instance remotely, no GUI/browsers to visit sites like my-ip6.com). If it makes any difference, it's an Amazon EC2 instance.
[07:28] <xrs> that page i linked describes your exact problem and how it was fixed. did you ever look at it?
[07:29] <Ben64> tahitipetey: ifconfig
[07:29] <kepler> tahitipetey, netstat -ie
[07:29] <genoobie> hey all
[07:29] <genoobie> questions about video here
[07:30] <genoobie> I have a crappy video card
[07:30] <genoobie> an lubuntu install that doesn't quite work and an xubuntu live that gives me video
[07:30] <genoobie> here's the thing
[07:30] <FloodBot1> genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <kittenmittens> whats the oem installl do
[07:31] <xrs> its for OEMs who have their own configs and answer files
[07:32] <genoobie> I was hoping to use the video information from the live CD to somehow help lubuntu get started.  When I boot lubuntu, the splash screen is OK, but the screen for lightdm looks goofed.  When I go the the xubuntu livecd, there's obviously no dm
[07:32] <JustinW> is this IRC for ubuntu server (ubuntu linux on servers)?
[07:32] <JustinW> or mainly the os lol
[07:32] <Ben64> ubuntu support
[07:32] <xrs> #ubuntu-server
[07:33] <genoobie> so the wm/de screen is just fine.  any tips on how to get the lubuntu jumpstarted?  I was going to try and bypass the dm, with an ~/.xinitrc
[07:33] <genoobie> but I don't have rw access to the drive or the permissions are funny...
[07:33] <tahitipetey> Ben64 & kepler: Ah, right, since IPv6 addresses are global, what's on ifconfig would be the global address! Jeez, why didn't I realize that earlier, hah.
[07:33] <genoobie> any suggestions?
[07:34] <Ben64> tahitipetey: not exactly, but since its a server there isn't going to be an internal address/nat stuff going on
[07:34] <Ben64> genoobie: when you're installing it should ask you about logging in automatically
[07:34] <p4> #jogja
[07:34] <tahitipetey> Ben64: EC2 servers *are* behind NAT. It's IPv4 address on ifconfig is not the global address.
[07:34] <genoobie> ben64, no, sadly it didn't
[07:34] <kepler> the ipv6 should be global
[07:34] <Ben64> tahitipetey: really? weird
[07:34] <kepler> unless you have an fe80:: or something
[07:35] <genoobie> my guess is that will fix the problem
[07:35] <genoobie> but I'm not sure how to make that happen
[07:35] <tahitipetey> kepler: Ouch... I do. Or rather, the server does have a fe80::... address :(
[07:35] <Ben64> genoobie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472113
[07:35] <kepler> that is link local then
[07:36] <kepler> is it fe80:<mac address>:<other stuff> ?
[07:36] <genoobie> Ben64, I'll try that, thanks!
[07:37] <anan_> Hi, just reconnected to screen and prompt changed to 'user@host:(unreachable)/$' - pwd doesn't return home eitheir, or anything for that matter
[07:37] <Sara> I faild to repair my grub2 need help
[07:37] <Ben64> tahitipetey: you could use a website that tells you your public address then
[07:37] <genoobie> Ben64, does it use lxdm or lightdm
[07:37] <Ben64> genoobie: might be lightdm, not sure
[07:38] <genoobie> eff, I'll edit every dm file
[07:38] <Sara> grub rescue is usefull before using bootrepair. I already have my win I
[07:38] <p4> hi
[07:38] <p4> i need help
[07:39] <Sara> reinstalled windows 7 and repaired using recommended option now win works but I cannot log in ubuntu anymore
[07:39] <Sara> can somone walk with me through it?
[07:39] <Ben64> Sara: what didn't work when you tried to fix grub
[07:39] <xrs> !boot-repair
[07:39] <kittenmittens> yeah windows bootloader messes up ubuntus and looads before it
[07:40] <Sara> I cannot see the page that says file not found > rescure grub
[07:40] <kittenmittens> thats why you always install llinux after windows, unless you wanna be mucking around
[07:40] <xrs> sara, you will need to boot the computer using a live CD or DVD
[07:41] <kittenmittens> or usb
[07:41] <Sara> Im in live cd
[07:41] <Sara> live usb actually
[07:41] <xrs> you have boot-repair installed?
[07:41] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:41] <Ben64> start at 2nd option
[07:41] <seeqwell> grub-rescue-pc - GRUB bootable rescue images, version 2 (PC/BIOS version) Sara
[07:42] <Sara> that would be great if we could repair it just with ubuntu live usb not by makeing another bootable usb
[07:43] <Ben64> you can
[07:43] <Sara> Ben64 can you tell me how
[07:43] <Sara> ?
[07:43] <Ben64> i just pasted the link
[07:43] <tripelb> Re if I receivers/adaptors. Here's the list from MonoPrice http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10501 --doew anyone know if any of these is k own to work with Ubuntu?   Not a long list, 3 cards, one g and 3 n. And 2 more N's at double speed 300 Mps
[07:43] <kittenmittens> im updating, so we will see..
[07:44] <kepler> skipping drivers?
[07:44] <Ben64> tripelb: read the comments on them
[07:44] <kittenmittens> yeah
[07:44] <kepler> tahitipetey, http://mellowd.co.uk/ccie/?p=1363 has some info on the ipv6 ranges if you're interested.
[07:44] <Sara> I saw the link its using different methods to repair grub i don't know which is mine
[07:44] <tahitipetey> kepler: Thanks! I'll read through that :)
[07:44] <kittenmittens> whats is ipv6 for?
[07:45] <kittenmittens> THINGS ONLY USE IPV6?
[07:45] <kepler> increase IP address space
[07:45] <Ben64> Sara: i said start at 2nd option
[07:45] <kepler> right now we're on ipv4
[07:45] <kittenmittens> caps*
[07:45] <kepler> which was actually an experiment that just got out of hand
[07:45] <kittenmittens> why do we need more space
[07:45] <kepler> we're out of ipv4 addresses, actually
[07:45] <kittenmittens> really?
[07:45] <xrs> its like running out of telephone numbers and having to add extra digits
[07:45] <kepler> well, they have all been assigned. i think due to poor planning, we only actually use like 15% of them
[07:46] <kittenmittens> but not everything accepts ipv6 adresses
[07:46] <Ben64> pretty much everything does now, but this is offtopic
[07:46] <kepler> i think everything does now
[07:46] <kittenmittens> are we talking about isp provided adresses? /exchange
[07:46] <kepler> yes
[07:46] <kittenmittens> hm
[07:46] <tahitipetey> kittenmittens: All ISP's are IPv6 complaint. Since June a few years back...
[07:47] <kepler> if you want to knwo more, we can go to off topic, or you can PM me, Ben64 is right, this isn't the place for that talk
[07:47] <kittenmittens> ive never really nudged into external ip's
[07:47] <tahitipetey> Oh, I shouldn't say "All". Certainly the North American/European ones. Can't vouch for some backwater ISP in some developing nation...
[07:48] <kittenmittens> learning is fun :) thank god for the collective human knowledge being at my fingertips
[07:48] <anan_> Hi, anyone know why terminal prompt says 'user@host:(unreachable)/$' after reconnecting with a detached screen?
[07:49] <Sara> is it possible to write grub commands without logging off ubuntu?
[07:49] <Ben64> anan_: do you have encryption on the drive or the home directory?
[07:49] <Sara> terminal does not accept it
[07:49] <Ben64> Sara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:50] <genoobie> Ugh, Ben64 that didn't work...
[07:50] <anan_> Ben64: I don't think so, it might be nothing as it only occured after calling on screen using it's pid
[07:50] <genoobie> it must be the mode of the monitor
[07:50] <genoobie> any way to change that from cli?
[07:51] <anan_> Ben64: only pwd doesn't return anything anymore :P
[07:52] <genoobie> the splash screens look great
[07:52] <Sara> my grub location and grub options are gray (not available)
[07:52] <genoobie> the only thing that I can think is that the installer was a text installer
[07:53] <thechef> Is nvidia-current-updates in 12.04 not pointing to 310, because 1) it never will in 12.04, 2) nvidia doesn't declare 310 as stable-enough for LTS systems 3) still in testing 4) because 304 is still supported and for >304 version to appear in LTS 304 must first come to EOL 5) other?
[07:55] <kittenmittens> thechef, is this who wants to be a millionair?
[07:55] <woo> exit
[07:55] <woo> sry* :p
[07:55] <woo> laters
[07:55] <kittenmittens> compiz crashed while its installing the updates
[07:56] <thechef> kittenmittens: almost - but if you win doesn't depend on if you're correct - If I don't like the answer you're out :-)
[07:56] <kittenmittens> :o
[07:57] <alumno19> Hola
[07:58] <xrs> ** (gnome-font-viewer:14048): WARNING **: Install failed: can't find any configured user font directory.
[07:58] <xrs> what file do i need to edit to fix that?
[07:58] <alumno19> vamos locoooo
[07:58] <kittenmittens> ok it updated ok
[07:58] <xrs> !sp
[07:59] <kittenmittens> compiz keeps crashing though
[07:59] <alumno20> alumno 19 me suena yu nombre
[07:59] <linocisco> is there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?
[07:59] <alumno19> y a mi el tuyo locooo
[07:59] <kittenmittens> kepler?
[07:59] <kepler> kittenmittens, can you disable it?
[07:59] <kepler> did it say why it was crashing?
[08:00] <kittenmittens> yeah
[08:00] <Ben64> kittenmittens: sounds like you have a .... hardware problem
[08:00] <kittenmittens> because its doing software rendering reather than hardware rendering
[08:00] <juniour> hi guys how to format write procted usb drives or sd card
[08:00] <juniour> plz help
[08:00] <kittenmittens> thats what it says
[08:00] <kepler> go into settings and change it from xrandr or whatever to the other option
[08:00] <Ben64> kittenmittens: then start up in Ubuntu 2D
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> juniour: if there's a hardware tab switch it to writable first...
[08:00] <xrs> alumno20,  try #ubuntu-es
[08:01] <linocisco> is there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?
[08:01] <kittenmittens> mmh
[08:01] <kittenmittens> what are the best amd drivers
[08:01] <juniour> aeon-ltd explain plz
[08:01] <juniour> wt hard ware tab its sd card
[08:01] <helmut_> hi
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> juniour: sometimes they have a tab that switches it from writable to read only
[08:02] <xrs> some SD cards have a lock. an actual lock you can slide
[08:02] <xrs> like the old floppy disks
[08:02] <juniour> no nothing like that
[08:02] <Ben64> almost every sd card has one
[08:02] <juniour> it a micro sd card of 2gb
[08:02] <kepler> kittenmittens, try sudo apt-get install fglrx
[08:02] <kepler> that is what i use for my workstation
[08:02] <juniour> it write procted
[08:03] <juniour> how will i remove
[08:03] <linocisco> is there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?
[08:03] <juniour> or formate the sd card
[08:03] <Ben64> !repeat | linocisco
[08:03] <basso> hello, my laptop has 20gb of ram, how can i make the system use more for my benefit?
[08:03] <juniour> aeon-ltd any idea
[08:03] <basso> i have disabled swap
[08:03] <juniour> basso use 64 bit machine
[08:03] <kepler> basso, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> basso: swappiness=0
[08:04] <Ben64> juniour: really you should check the card for a switch. especially if you have it in an adapter
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> !swappiness
[08:04] <kittenmittens> it says invalid operation fglrx
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> basso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[08:05] <xrs> basso,  check out tip #10 http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html
[08:05] <kepler> sudo apt-get install fglrx ??
[08:05] <kepler> did you get install in there
[08:05] <xrs> he has no swap. changing the swappiness isnt going to do anything
[08:05] <kittenmittens> ah that worked
[08:05] <juniour> hee thanks all i got it :)
[08:06] <xrs> instead i directed him to move the /tmp dir to RAM
[08:06] <basso> aeon-ltd: but I don't have a swap partion on my computer
[08:06] <juniour> basso use 64 bit operating system
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> i've no experience with them, but would a ramdisk be worth the effort
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> ?
[08:06] <xrs> yes
[08:06] <linocisco> ok
[08:06] <basso> juniour: i am using a 64bit operatingsystem :)
[08:06] <basso> thinkpad master race
[08:06] <Ben64> i have /tmp on ram, and i only have 8GB
[08:06] <Sara> ben64  what does it mean:   root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/sda4/ mnt mount: mount point mnt does not exist
[08:06] <Ben64> Sara: what are you doing?!
[08:06] <kingbeast> linocisco: pm!!
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> Sara: that's not the right syntax
[08:07] <Ben64> Sara: i've given you this link 4 times now, this is much easier than anything you're trying to do. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:07] <juniour> basso then you will be able to use most of the ram, except some of it will be restricted for hardware
[08:07] <Sara> I installed win 7 and i used recommended option in bootrepair win came back not ubuntu
[08:08] <Sara> the rest is according http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZRjjPjic8
[08:08] <juniour> Sara fix mbr
[08:08] <xrs> sara seriously. what are you doing. Ben64  gave you very simple way to fix it
[08:09] <Hanmac_> i hope someone could help me i have a crititcal vhost problem ... i try to access vhost1 with addr "xyz.local" but for some reason it trys to redirect me to "abc.local" with was an old vhost ... and i dont know how to deactivate this ... ("abc.local" is removed from all etc/hosts files ... )
[08:09] <Sara> Ok i didnot understand that . he gave me boot repair link
[08:09] <basso> there, i have moved /tmp to ram
[08:09] <Sara> and grub location and grub options are gray
[08:09] <Ben64> basso: you could also move firefox cache to /tmp
[08:09] <kepler> Hanmac_, try " sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart "
[08:10] <xrs> sara copy and paste this into the terminal window: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[08:10] <kittenmittens> ok that instaled and im rebooting now
[08:10] <Sara> already have boot repair installed on usb
[08:10] <kepler> Hanmac_, if that doesn't work " sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start "
[08:10] <kepler> kittenmittens, good luck
[08:10] <Sara> tell me the rest please
[08:11] <xrs> open it
[08:11] <Sara> its open
[08:11] <kittenmittens> ya, this is what happened last time, i have no desktop now, no unity or anything just a blank desktop
[08:11] <linocisco> I want network monitoring tool like PRTG but should be free of charge
[08:12] <adamshumpisxxx> Anyone online who's knowledgeable with MATE?
[08:12] <Sara> xrs whats next please
[08:12] <kittenmittens> i can right click and changed desktop background adn get back to settingd from there..
[08:12] <Ben64> adamshumpisxxx: we don't support mate here
[08:12] <xrs> im installing boot repair so i can walk you through it. be warned my system is probably the slowest in this room
[08:12] <adamshumpisxxx> Well, it's MATE on Ubuntu 12.10 Netboot. Does that make a difference?
[08:12] <genoobie> okay Ben64
[08:13] <Ben64> adamshumpisxxx: nope, sorry
[08:13] <genoobie> so I changed those lines in lightdm.conf
[08:13] <genoobie> no change
[08:13] <kepler> kittenmittens, hit atl+f2 and amdcccle
[08:13] <kepler> or if you can open a terminale
[08:13] <genoobie> this sucks.
[08:13] <Hanmac_> kepler the first one does not exist on my system, the second one does, but it seems that it does not have any afffect ... moment i restart firefox
[08:13] <adamshumpisxxx> Would anyone be able to point me to an IRC server / channel that will help me?
[08:13] <kepler> sudo amdcccle
[08:13] <kittenmittens> ?
[08:13] <genoobie> I'm downloading the lubuntu desktop install
[08:13] <kittenmittens> ctrl alt t?
[08:13] <genoobie> maybe that will fix the problem
[08:14] <Sara> xrs- you there?
[08:14] <kepler> Hanmac_, not sure then. you're using the dns name and not the IP?
[08:14] <linocisco> I want network monitoring tool like PRTG but should be free of charge and full version
[08:14] <xrs> sara: im installing boot repair so i can walk you through it. be warned my system is probably the slowest in this room
[08:14] <kepler> kittenmittens, whatever opens it. im on kubuntu, so i dont know the gnome/unity shortcuts
[08:14] <Sara> ok thanks xrs
[08:15] <kittenmittens> a whole bunch of error:bad request messages in therminal
[08:15] <shortstraw8_> Sara,  What steps did you do?
[08:15] <kittenmittens> then the amd catalyst ppopped up
[08:15] <Sara> just installed bootrepair
[08:15] <Sara> now waiting for the rest
[08:15] <kepler> do you have multiple monitors?
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> adamshumpisxxx mate is default on mint right?
[08:15] <Ben64> Sara: click "recommended repair"
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> adamshumpisxxx: ask there, but don't mention you're running ubuntu
[08:16] <adamshumpisxxx> I'm not sure. I don't run Mint or have ever been interested in it.
[08:16] <adamshumpisxxx> Ah, OK. Thanks. Would you be able to link me?
[08:16] <shortstraw8_> Sara,  If you follow the rest of the steps on the ubuntu help it works fine.
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> ##mint
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> wait thats wrong
[08:16] <Sara> I have done that it recovered my win 7. you sure i need to use that again?
[08:16] <kittenmittens> what do i do now
[08:16] <kepler> kittenmittens, do you have multiple monitors?
[08:17] <adamshumpisxxx> Thanks aeon-ltd.
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> adamshumpisxxx: #linuxmint
[08:17] <Sara> I really don't like to remove my win again
[08:17] <adamshumpisxxx> Thanks...leaving now to ask.
[08:18] <xrs> you re-installed widows? are you sure win7 didnt erase your ubuntu?
[08:18] <kittenmittens> no it thought i had no monitors so i changed that now im rebooting
[08:18] <kepler> that's weird
[08:18] <Sara> I recovered mbr but not grub now I cannot install grub
[08:19] <kittenmittens> nope.. blank again
[08:19] <Ben64> Sara: Click "Recommended Repair" and do whatever it says
[08:19] <kepler> can you right click like last time?
[08:19] <Super_Dog> hey peeps.  just had a running out of disk space error.  couldn't figure out.  unmounted big server mount in fstab and all is well now.  could it be there are so many file on the mount that it is indexing them or something on my local disk....?
[08:19] <kittenmittens> ya]\
[08:19] <kepler> pop open that amdcccle again
[08:19] <Ben64> kittenmittens: do you like unity?
[08:20] <kittenmittens> ya
[08:20] <xrs> your hardware may be good, but are you sure its compatible?
[08:20] <kepler> im not sure what it is doing, but unity doesn't like it.
[08:20] <Ben64> kittenmittens: because you could use Unity 2D in 12.04
[08:20] <kittenmittens> mmh
[08:20] <Ben64> 12.10 got rid of the 2D version
[08:21] <bencc> can I install debian packages on ubuntu? which debian version to use for which ubuntu version?
[08:21] <Super_Dog> Vmware gave me a warning about trying to upgrade 12.04 to the 12.10 in my VM...
[08:21] <kittenmittens> it ndid my settings
[08:21] <kittenmittens> it wont save my option to have a monitor..
[08:22] <kepler> did you do sudo amdcccle ?
[08:22] <Super_Dog> *.deb files - double click and let software center or gdebi install...
[08:22] <xrs> ubuntu is debian, just tweaked. you can install .deb files with ubuntu software center
[08:22] <Aladeen> hello
[08:22] <kepler> i do sudo -i, too used to being root. forget to sudo all the time
[08:22] <Ben64> xrs, bencc: that is very much not recommended
[08:23] <xrs> k. i've personally never had a problem EVER
[08:23] <bencc> Ben64:  here it says that I can use the debian selinux packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[08:23] <xrs> but thats just me
[08:23] <kittenmittens> now what
[08:23] <Ben64> its not good to packages for different distros
[08:23] <kepler> hit display manager
[08:23] <xrs> aww then whats alien for?  :P
[08:23] <kepler> what is your resolution and desktop area?
[08:23] <kittenmittens> sudo amdcccle again?
[08:23] <kepler> yeah
[08:23] <kepler> it should be in there
[08:23] <kittenmittens> 1920 1080
[08:24] <Super_Dog> Anybody here using their ubuntu in VMware 9.X?
[08:24] <kepler> if you put your mouse on the left side to pull up the unity bar or whatever, does it just not show up?
[08:25] <kittenmittens> no
[08:25] <kittenmittens> it wont save my settings
[08:25] <kittenmittens> getting lots of errors in the terminal from amdcccle
[08:26] <kepler> can you use paste.ubuntu.com and throw some in there?
[08:27] <Aladeen> someone have information about AladeeNUX ?
[08:28] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/u3UBC6JV
[08:28] <kunji> kittenmittens: I have no idea if it is related or not, but isn't amdccle graphical, so you should be using gksudo not sudo.
[08:29] <xrs> i havent gotten amd drivers working since 12.10
[08:29] <kepler> i dont think those are critical. just x whining
[08:30] <kepler> kittenmittens, on 12.10, right?
[08:30] <kittenmittens> ye)ah
[08:30] <kittenmittens> no errors this time
[08:30] <kepler> what is the output of fglrxinfo ?
[08:31] <chamoda> test
[08:31] <kepler> passed
[08:31] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/s01pfVyn <this is what happened after i saved my settings though
[08:32] <kepler> well at least it was a little considerate: [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
[08:32] <kunji> kepler: just curious, what's the expected output for that on a good system (i.e. things working normally)?  I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589050/
[08:32] <kepler> that looks like mine
[08:33] <kepler> i imagine if it doesn't work, it won't have display info/driver info there
[08:33] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/bprTsBjN
[08:33] <kittenmittens> brb dinner
[08:33] <kepler> like that ^^
[08:34] <kunji> kepler: Hmm, well, I guess that's good then, I think my system is working fine.
[08:34] <litropy> So, I have a spare box. It's not great - it's got a 1.2 gHz processor. I already have a server. Already have a gaming comp (wouldn't be good for it anyway). I'm looking for ideas as to what to do with it.
[08:34] <kunji> litropy: super powered router?
[08:34] <kepler> haha, i think mine is too. hasn't done anything i didn't want it to yet.
[08:34] <kepler> litropy, www.pfsense.org
[08:35] <xrs> ^^
[08:35] <xrs> whatever happened to smoothwall?
[08:35] <kunji> kepler: Mine does seem a little slow, but I am running 3 monitors on an A10.. so I think that would be expected.
[08:35] <xrs> sorry rong room
[08:35] <litropy> kunji, what would it run? you're talking about using the wifi card? What advantages would it provide over my DIR-655?
[08:36] <kunji> litropy: No idea, I'm not familiar with a DIR-655 :P
[08:36] <litropy> kunji, it's jsut a nice home router https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dlink.com%2Fproducts%2F%3Fpid%3D530&ei=hdsIUezYLubl0gHZxYG4Aw&usg=AFQjCNGBp5FopgPMO8an6BOHVAVEVEN51A&sig2=dKpqwMoIeemRW-2Qc201QA&bvm=bv.41642243,d.dmQ
[08:36] <litropy> whoops
[08:36] <litropy> http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dir-655-wireless-n-gigabit-router
[08:37] <litropy> kepler, seems like you have the same idea as kunji
[08:37] <xrs> you would get better control over the firewall and its policies, and reduce network traffix by using it as a proxy
[08:37] <xrs> you could also turn that box into a snort based intrusion detection system
[08:38] <kepler> litropy, i picked up http://goo.gl/DXJnB and run pfsense on it, disabled dhcp on my wireless router to make it an AP
[08:38] <kunji> litropy: Yeah, he was linking one way to do it.  Hmm, your own VPN would be one extra at least.
[08:38] <xrs> if you have a lot of computers, you could turn it into a proxy /  update server
[08:38] <kepler> litropy, advantage = more fun/learn?
[08:38] <kepler> i do have ipsec setup, so i vpn in from my phone and have full access to my network
[08:39] <kunji> kepler: That looks like a nice little system, yeah, it's nice being able to access my UPnP server from anywhere ^_^
[08:40] <kepler> small, quiet, and more than enough to serve me internet for the next 10 years or whatever
[08:40] <litropy> xrs, there's nothing wrond with running pfsense alongside snort on the same box, right?
[08:40] <kunji> Unfortunately I don't have the bandwidth up to stream my 1080p video though.
[08:40] <kepler> unless google fiber comes to me and they go over 1gbps, that'll hold me over
[08:40] <zayantay> hey guys
[08:40] <kunji> litropy: Yeah, that's fine
[08:40] <kepler> litropy, you can install snort as a package in pfsense
[08:41] <zayantay> helloo?
[08:41] <xrs> i've never done it but it would be better to have them seperated. checks and balences n whatnot
[08:41] <hillary_> I install eclipse via ubuntu software center but when i start i get " An error has occurred. See the log file
[08:41] <hillary_> /usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/1359535247587.log."
[08:41] <litropy> sweet, kepler
[08:41] <zayantay> any body here
[08:41] <kunji> !ask | zayantay
[08:41] <hillary_> i had purge the eclipse juno i install by hand
[08:41] <hillary_> could it be there are some remains?
[08:42] <zayantay> where can i find help for penetration testing. please tell me a channel or ?
[08:42] <kunji> Hmm, not sure if that's exactly what I wanted the bot to say... I keep forgetting the calls, was there a more appropriate one?
[08:42] <hillary_> how can i get rid of them?
[08:42] <xrs> #backtrack
[08:42] <xrs> @ zayantay
[08:42] <zayantay> thanks but is there a channel for backbox ?
[08:42] <xrs> theres like 15 security rooms in freenode
[08:43] <Hanmac_> kepler i found the cupit ... its the VM (the server) when the VM is down, FF says cant find "xyz.local" but when the VM is up, it says cant find "abc.local" ... i removed everything from the hosts, the vhost is disabled too, i tryed all methods for dns-cleaning but it does still happening :(
[08:43] <zayantay> ok thanks ill check that out :)
[08:43] <kunji> zayantay: Probably... but you want to do pentesting when you can't even find that yourself?  .... script kiddies....
[08:43] <xrs> knowledge is power...
[08:43] <zayantay> sry man
[08:43] <xrs> just so long as ur pen testing your own equipment
[08:44] <zayantay> im new to linux
[08:44] <zayantay> in a way
[08:44] <zayantay> i tried mint for a while though
[08:44] <xrs> im new to linux n ive been using it since the 90s  :P
[08:44] <zayantay> cool
[08:44] <kepler> Hanmac_, i think im not understanding the whole problem. you have a vm host that has two VMs on it that only are accessible while the other is down?
[08:45] <kunji> xrs: That's why I don't like pointing people places for pen testing... it's usually not their own equipment, 9 times out of 10 it's someone looking to break wireless passwords to get free wifi -_-
[08:45] <hillary_> ubuntu 12.04
[08:46] <Hanmac_> kepler its one VM with two vhosts ... (now only one active vhost) ... and i act access this vhost because it try to redirect to an non-existing vhost
[08:46] <kurisutian> Hi there! Can anyone help me getting convirt to work? I wanted to set up a web managed kvm server but somehow convirt won't work. Packages are installed but after that it refuses to work....
[08:47] <kepler> Hamled, i'm not sure :/ sorry
[08:47] <litropy> xrs, kunji, zayantay, Ya. And in that case, it's worth mentioning that doing so is a felony in the US.
[08:47] <litropy> US at least ...
[08:48] <xrs> Yeah just ask Aaron Swartz
[08:48] <litropy> Not to be *that guy*
[08:48] <kittenmittens> back
[08:48] <hillary_> any help?
[08:49] <kepler> kittenmittens, that last paste shows that the driver isn't working for whatever reason
[08:49] <kittenmittens> so what should i do
[08:49] <genoobie> paly
[08:49] <genoobie> okay
[08:49] <kepler> kittenmittens, do " sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx " to get rid of the driver
[08:49] <kunji> litropy: indeed
[08:49] <kepler> hopefully it boots up like it did
[08:49] <genoobie>  I mean I am done with *nix on  this older machine
[08:49] <apish> I know that I use "rsync -avz -e ssh /home/ramesh/ ramesh@<IP_ADDRESS>:/backup/ramesh/" in order to sync local folder to remote folder.. but what if i want to sync remote folder to local?
[08:49] <genoobie> xp runs fine
[08:49] <genoobie> done
[08:50] <genoobie> nite all
[08:50] <FloodBot1> genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <kittenmittens> ook :) rebooting
[08:51] <litropy> apish, ssh to the remote and then rsync?
[08:52] <kepler> kittenmittens, after you boot back up, get a terminal again and try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx
[08:54] <xrs> well that explains why my video never worked after 12.10... i hate amd
[08:55] <kepler> im an intel/nvidia guy myself, but have to use work provided hardware at work, with intel/ati
[08:57] <xrs> wow boot-repair is still installing.... using this computer is like running a dumb terminal over 56k
[09:00] <kittenmittens> hm..
[09:02] <kepler> any luck?
[09:06] <kittenmittens> um.. i got an error, let me just quickly do the dishes
[09:06] <nastro82_86C4> Ciau :D
[09:07] <cfhowlett> kittenmittens, sudo apt-clean dishes -f
[09:08] <gnomefreak> dishes?
[09:08] <kepler> reminds me of: http://xkcd.com/149/
[09:09] <xrs> lmao
[09:09] <cfhowlett> kepler, that was my first exposure to linux command around the time I first tried ubuntu...
[09:09] <gnomefreak> lol i like that
[09:10] <fedor> is there in ubuntu12 utility for taking photos via webcam?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> fedor, cheese and guvcview
[09:10] <fedor> thanx
[09:10] <cfhowlett> no problem
[09:20] <kittenmittens> back
[09:21] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/sXcAPj35
[09:23] <bobweaver> Unknown Paste ID!
[09:23] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/sXcAPj3S
[09:23] <kittenmittens> my bad
[09:25] <kittenmittens> googling it only found me someone elses paistbin with the same thing lol
[09:26] <kittenmittens> its like im doomed to never have ubuntu
[09:28] <kittenmittens> whys it so quiet now
[09:28] <spider_> hello
[09:28] <kittenmittens> hello
[09:29] <spider_> whats up bro my name is spider
[09:29] <kittenmittens> im no bro >_>
[09:30] <kittenmittens> my name is bianca
[09:30] <kittenmittens> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fP4emqw7O4
[09:31] <kittenmittens> #ubuntuofftopic
[09:33] <kittenmittens> any ubuntu nerds here who are formiliar with ati graphics
[09:33] <litropy> I wish. What are you trying to do again?
[09:33] <arunkumar413> what happens to the hard link file if the original file is moved to a different location
[09:33] <kittenmittens> install graphics drivers
[09:34] <kepler> sorry, was off doing work (dozed off)
[09:34] <litropy> kittenmittens, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:34] <kittenmittens> JEEEEZ
[09:34] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/sXcAPj3S
[09:35] <litropy> .run? Never seen that before.
[09:35] <litropy> kittenmittens, check out my link
[09:35] <kepler> it is just a script to do the installs
[09:36] <kittenmittens> thats what the website says to do, ill try yours
[09:36] <kepler> looks like that one is the same as the fglrx we tried before, but adding using sudo amdconfig --initial
[09:36] <kepler> which may be what fixes it
[09:36] <kepler> we have a weird setup out here, so i did my own xorg.conf
[09:37] <fefrerf> Hi
[09:37] <kepler> the second part is what you were just doing, with the .run
[09:39] <Super_Dog> Does mounting large external servers with lots of files take up resources locally on Ubuntu desktop?  I notice larger disk usage on my main Ubuntu drive when I fstab mount my network drives...
[09:39] <jnhghy> Hi, I have some issues with document viewer and pdf printing: when I view some pdf they look ok but in printing and in print preview the colors are inverted. any help is appriciated
[09:40] <fefrerf> Hi
[09:40] <fefrerf> Anyone have ubuntu for androids?
[09:41] <Super_Dog> There's supposed to be an Ubuntu phone coming out.  Might have to get one of those..
[09:41] <brontosaurusrex> what would i use from cli for rtf to utf8 txt conversion?
[09:42] <amoma> brontosaurusrex, $ pyton
[09:42] <somsip> !info iconv | brontosaurusrex
[09:42] <somsip> brontosaurusrex: man iconv and see if it helps
[09:43] <brontosaurusrex> isnt iconv only for charset conversions?
[09:43] <kittenmittens> after all that do i continue to step 3 or am i done then?
[09:43] <llutz> brontosaurusrex: "iconv - Convert encoding of given files from one encoding to another"
[09:44] <kittenmittens> nevermind -_-
[09:44] <kittenmittens> same issue, no unity or anything
[09:46] <fefrerf> hello
[09:46] <NetFlamBorg> Hi fefrerf
[09:46] <fefrerf> :-)
[09:47] <NegressCounty> I wish I could shit into somebody's mouth
[09:51] <fefrerf> What is SliTaz?
[09:51] <NetFlamBorg> SliTaz GNU/Linux is a Micro-Linux Distribution created by Christophe Lincoln and is now maintained by several contributors.
[09:51] <bilel> Hi, a cron sent me mails because a cron task failed, but now each time I connect with ssh, I got a message saying "you have new mails" , and then I do "cat /var/mail/username" and I can see it's the same old mail, how can I flag it as read?
[09:52] <llutz> bilel: "mail" "1" "d"
[09:52] <somsip> bilel: run 'mail'
[09:52] <fefrerf> Thx NetFlamBorg
[09:52] <NetFlamBorg> fefrerf Convert encoding of given files from one
[09:53] <fefrerf> I like my Wifi!
[09:54] <fefrerf> My wifi is very goooood!
[09:54] <fefrerf> wifi?
[09:55] <AppleJuice> Yeah, do you have a wifi? I have two.
[09:55] <fefrerf> :-)
[09:55] <NetFlamBorg> For help with Wifi, please read: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-easy first. If that doesn't work then read: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-hard
[09:56] <kepler> kittenmittens, i think that card just isn't well supported by their driver :/
[09:56] <kittenmittens> :(
[09:57] <kittenmittens> so no linux?
[09:57] <kepler> :/
[09:57] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg thx! But its a joke!
[09:57] <NetFlamBorg> Goooood!
[09:58] <bilel> somsip: each time I run "mail" it tells me I have new message
[09:59] <kepler> kittenmittens, try step 3 -- installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website ?
[09:59] <kittenmittens> ill do that next
[09:59] <bilel> anyway I'll try to google linux mail in order to see how I should read them properly instead of "cat /var/mail/username"
[09:59] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg who are you?
[09:59] <NetFlamBorg> Might have to get one of those
[09:59] <NetFlamBorg> Androids?
[09:59] <llutz> bilel: "mail" "1" "d"
[09:59] <somsip> bilel: read tge message, and delete it. Like llutz said
[10:00] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg are you a weirdo?
[10:00] <NetFlamBorg> SliTaz?
[10:00] <kepler> bilel, sudo apt-get install alpine
[10:00] <fefrerf> wtf?
[10:01] <llutz> kepler: there is no need to install additional software if "mail" command is present just to remove a system-mail
[10:01] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg wtf!
[10:01] <NetFlamBorg> Goooood!
[10:01] <kepler> but but but pine :(
[10:01] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg fuck off!
[10:02] <somsip> !language | fefrerf
[10:02] <fefrerf> ok ok
[10:02] <bilel> llutz: ok it seems I can delete them one by one with your commands, but is it possible to clear everything? there are some old unread mails too
[10:02] <NetFlamBorg> Help is appriciated
[10:03] <llutz> bilel: "d :o"
[10:03] <fefrerf> i like trains
[10:04] <NetFlamBorg> Kittenmittens, I think that card just isn't well supported by their driver :/
[10:04] <somsip> !ot | fefrerf
[10:04] <kittenmittens> would aa driver fromt his site be better? http://phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?43-Open-Source-AMD-Linux
[10:04] <fefrerf> ok ok
[10:04] <bilel> llutz: thanks it worked!
[10:04] <NetFlamBorg> Wifi!
[10:04] <kepler> kittenmittens, i would use the amd sanctioned one
[10:05] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg you are really helpful :-)
[10:05] <kittenmittens> what do you mean?
[10:05] <NetFlamBorg> Who are you a weirdo?
[10:05] <kepler> download it from AMD's site
[10:06] <fefrerf> you are a weirdo netflamborg
[10:06] <NetFlamBorg> Who are you a weirdo?
[10:06] <daniel_mum> a
[10:06] <fefrerf> stop netflamborg
[10:06] <NetFlamBorg> fefrerf: mail 1 d
[10:07] <fefrerf> NetFlamborg, send me mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:07] <llutz> !ot | fefrerf NetFlamBorg stop your nonsense here please
[10:07] <NetFlamBorg> Encoding to another
[10:07] <NetFlamBorg> There is no need to install additional software if mail command
[10:08] <jnhghy> Hi, I have some issues with document viewer and pdf printing: when I view some pdf they look ok but in printing and in print preview the colors are inverted. any help is appriciated
[10:08] <NetFlamBorg> Who are you a weirdo jnhghy
[10:08] <jnhghy> how*
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> NetFlamBorg  is a bot
[10:10] <NetFlamBorg> Help is appriciated
[10:11] <fefrerf> MonkeyDust? NetFlamBorg is a bot?
[10:11] <NetFlamBorg> Help is appriciated
[10:12] <llutz> !ops | NetFlamBorg sort of bot, spam, junk, troll
[10:12] <gnomefreak> are we sure he is a bot?
[10:12] <NetFlamBorg> Thx! But its a joke
[10:12] <gnomefreak> llutz: im here already
[10:12] <jpds> NetFlamBorg: Hello.
[10:12] <NetFlamBorg> Hi jpds
[10:12] <gnomefreak> not a bot good
[10:12] <NetFlamBorg> A bot?
[10:12] <Tm_T> NetFlamBorg: please don't use this channel for your personal amusement, see channel topic
[10:13] <NetFlamBorg> Tm_T: please don't use this channel for your personal amusement, see
[10:13] <gnomefreak> NetFlamBorg: join #ubuntu-offtopic for non support convo
[10:13] <gnomefreak> damnit
[10:13] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:13] <elky> bots not allowed in their either, really
[10:13] <litropy> Awe - just as I was typing up the turing test.
[10:13] <elky> there*
[10:14] <gnomefreak> he wasnt a bot afaict
[10:14] <dr_willis> just  a lame troll?
[10:14] <llutz> gnomefreak: then is was a troll, spammer, idiot, whatever,  spamming this channel
[10:14] <elky> gnomefreak, parroting people isn't really a down thing in -ot either :P
[10:14] <Tm_T> no point discussing this here
[10:14] <gnomefreak> yep thats the feeling i got
[10:14] <gnomefreak> elky: true but it is better than in here
[10:14] <anadia> Need help with Huawei usb modem, please
[10:16] <anadia> Need help with Huawei E220 usb modem, please
[10:16] <dr_willis> that a 3g modem? dialup modem? or what exactly
[10:16] <Tm_T> anadia: please elaborate what help you do need (:
[10:18] <anadia> dr_willis, Tm_T its a 3g modem. I would like to use it to connect the internet
[10:18] <litropy> anadia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei/E220
[10:18] <dr_willis> ;) i cant really think of any other use for them... so.. you plug it in.. you go to network manager icon at the top right...
[10:19] <litropy> anadia, mind you that's a dialup howto
[10:19] <xkernel> is there a channel for Ubuntu dev support?
[10:19] <litropy> xkernel, try #ubuntu+1
[10:20] <dr_willis> i thibk theres #ubuntu-motu
[10:20] <anadia> dr_willis I am on Linux Lite. I know this is Ubuntu channel. But Linux Lite is using Ubuntu 12.04
[10:20] <Tm_T> anadia: that's not Ubuntu
[10:20] <dr_willis> anadia:  ubuntu ahs a nice network manager tool.... look for it i guess...
[10:20] <xkernel> litropy, not the beta support I mean for code development
[10:20] <anadia> ok, then sorry i bothered you guys
[10:21] <litropy> anadia, what kernel are you using?
[10:21] <spacecowboy29> Hey all ! Is this is the right place to ask questions about bazaar or do I go to #ubuntu-motu ?
[10:22] <mablae> Hi there
[10:22] <mablae> I am getting strange typing errors in Xmind
[10:22] <mablae> Typing "a" in a node selects all Text... ? !
[10:22] <mablae> Very strange...
[10:23] <mablae> No hotkeys are activated... ?!
[10:23] <mablae> Just NUM
[10:23] <anadia> litropy 3.2.0-32
[10:23] <TimmyTT> I've got a problem with my floppy..
[10:23] <litropy> E220 is supported natively by Linux Kernel 2.6.20-rc2 or higher. It should just ... work.
[10:24] <hillary_> eclipse cannot start in my ubuntu 12.04. I get an error "An error has occurred. See the log file
[10:24] <hillary_> /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359541343404.log."
[10:24] <vileman_0x43> awesome is so cool
[10:24] <litropy> hillary_, we can't see the logs located locally on your computer.
[10:24] <TimmyTT> The wife says its too....floppy.
[10:25] <hillary_> litropy,  how do i go about then to solve it please
[10:25] <mablae> WTF floppy?
[10:26] <mablae> hillary_, pastie the log to paste.org for a start
[10:26] <litropy> hillary_ $cat /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359541343404.log
[10:26] <abowas> What¨s wrong with these commands? I want them to run after eachother "mkdir /home/newuser/ ; mkdir .ssh"
[10:27] <litropy> hillary_, then copy the output and paste it to https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaste.ubuntu.com%2F&ei=OfUIUe_3Hafy0QG3m4HIBg&usg=AFQjCNFz-jtIul_Dxhji62ThvMzL6pcvUg&sig2=RVmAtJbd6Dv8ZgcFZ2q6qQ&bvm=bv.41642243,d.dmQ
[10:27] <litropy> whoops
[10:27] <litropy> hillary_ then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:28] <spacecowboy29> A question, I have an error in bazaar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589248/,  Corkscrew is referred as Corksrew, so I'm guessing a typo, but not sure where to modify it...
[10:30] <bartzy> Hey
[10:30] <bartzy> if I use 12.10 , and PHP version there is X for example
[10:30] <bartzy> for example 5.4.6
[10:30] <bartzy> and then PHP releases PHP 5.5
[10:30] <bartzy> the repo will update to php 5.5 ?
[10:30] <dr_willis> !latest
[10:30] <bartzy> Or will stay at 5.4.6 forever, with just security patches (like debian) ?
[10:30] <dr_willis> bartzy:  possible, but not likely
[10:31] <bartzy> So exactly like debian stable /
[10:31] <bartzy> Same policy give or take ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> theres backports and ppas if yoiu need newer
[10:31] <bartzy> Cool.
[10:31] <bartzy> And this is the same for all ubuntu releases ?
[10:31] <bartzy> 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> yes
[10:31] <bartzy> Or there is a "Testing" version where the packages update , like debian wheezy/sid ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> bartzy:  no 'testing'
[10:32] <Ray> Hello, im trying to install TrueCombat Elite on ubuntu 12.04, when i extract/install it from Term, it is looking for Wolfenstein, is wolfenstein needed..???
[10:32] <bobweaver> bartzy,  not really there are pure "Ubuntu developers"  that both do Ubuntu patchs and also debian or just Ubuntu thus sometimes thing make it into Ubuntu stuff but that is not looked up to that much
[10:32] <bobweaver> bartzy,  what is stoping you from installing "what you want to use ? "
[10:32] <bartzy> dr_willis: So how packages getting upgraded in major versions ? i.e. php5.4 to php 5.5 ? Just in new releases, i.e. 13.04 to 13.10 ?
[10:32] <shomon> where can I get help with soap web services? sorry if that's OT here...
[10:32] <dr_willis> bartzy:  you got it.
[10:33] <litropy> bobweaver, I think he's trying to get a grasp of how Ubuntu manages their packages.
[10:33] <bobweaver> ahh
[10:33] <dr_willis> every 6 mo  stuff gets updated.. in most cases
[10:33] <alimj> Sorry if this is a dumb but however I could change GIMP interface language?
[10:33] <bobweaver> unless there is a security patch or something big is needed. correct
[10:33] <dr_willis> but even then - it may not be the absolute latest
[10:33] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  about 6 months behind ?
[10:34] <alimj> I mean How could I change GIMP interface language?
[10:34] <dr_willis> i never worry about the vversions. ;)
[10:34] <litropy> dr_willis, so packages will never get upgradd to newer versions if I keep the same Ubunu release?
[10:34] <litropy> upgraded*
[10:34] <dr_willis> !latest
[10:34] <blunted> Newest upstart produces odd error with HDD devices, what's the proper way of reporting it?
[10:34] <litropy> Sorry for the typos peeps - I'm tired.
[10:34] <Ray> Hello, im trying to install TrueCombat Elite on ubuntu 12.04, when i extract/install it from Term, it is looking for Wolfenstein, is wolfenstein needed..???
[10:34] <bobweaver> alimj,  you can change the language for all programs under gnome-control-center -> language's
[10:35] <dr_willis> normally only security updates get  updated topackage.. some times secirity fixs get ported back to older packages
[10:35] <Ben64> Ray: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, ask the truecombat people?
[10:35] <litropy> dr_willis, thx
[10:35] <bartzy> dr_willis: So what is the difference between the main repository, and the security repository ?
[10:35] <Ray> Ben64 : Probably
[10:35] <litropy> Alrighty. Goodnight, peeps.
[10:36] <dr_willis> bartzy:  no idea. i rarely worry about such things
[10:36] <bartzy> ok, thanks. Anyone knows why there is a security repo and a main repo ?
[10:37] <bobweaver> bartzy,  main is the "main"  security is push from CVT's
[10:37] <bobweaver> like if there is a report bartzy  of some CVE then fixs can go to that also kernel fixs and stuff like that
[10:38] <bobweaver> kinda
[10:38] <bobweaver> bartzy if you like things like that Today is part of Ubuntu Developers week in #ubuntu-classroom
[10:40] <MoL0ToV> there are a guide to make a ubuntu network with shared net fs and centralized user auth on login?
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> if there are one, i put in a basket windows network.
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> 200 pc in a school
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> with win xp/7
[10:41] <blunted> Main upstart pushed back and broke no initramfs loads, who do I tell since its not Ubuntu kernel config?
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> i want to place ubuntu with centralized user auth
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> and login
[10:43] <SAngeli> I need help with permissions. I run ubuntu server. /var/www has this security "drwxr-xr-x  2 root root". I need with another username (being allowed to do so) to be able to wrx to this path (-R). what should I do? I wish not to alter native permissions. Can this new username be like root? if so how to? or can I add this user to the root group?
[10:43] <Ben64> SAngeli: you should look into vhosts
[10:44] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i think you add them to the www group.. but i  alwo thought www should be owned by the  www group.   but i am only rembering what otheers have said iin here in the past
[10:48] <GoodHand_> Hi
[10:48] <SAngeli> ok
[10:48] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I see. Let me see
[10:48] <GoodHand_> Hi GeniusBrain
[10:49] <GoodHand_> I have problem with add app to left bar! (sublime text 2)
[10:49] <SAngeli> dr_willis, what I need is to create a SAMBA share to /var/www and be able to rwx from another PC.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> GoodHand_: what is the issue?
[10:50] <GoodHand_> How to do it!
[10:50] <SAngeli> dr_willis, also the gruup name is root root as listed above.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> GoodHand_: do you have the app installed?
[10:51] <dr_willis> root.root for owning www seems odd..  but i dont manage web servers ;)
[10:51] <Ben64> SAngeli: sounds very insecure. you should really look into a better system. ssh/scp/rsync and vhosts
[10:51] <GeniusBrain> Ben64
[10:51] <GoodHand_> ActionParsnip: yeah
[10:51] <GeniusBrain> GoodHand_: do you have the app installed?
[10:52] <SAngeli> Ben64, is local to my network and is for development only. I need to see this as a file folder inside my PC. I do not wish to ftp or similar
[10:52] <SAngeli> moreover it is only on the /www  so not much security issue.
[10:52] <SAngeli> this is only for the web server for developing websites locally
[10:52] <dr_willis> i bet samba will screw with ownership anbd permissions greatly... while  ssh/scp/stp wont...
[10:52] <GoodHand_> GeniusBrain: yeeeeah
[10:52] <GeniusBrain> GoodHand_: what is the issue?
[10:53] <GoodHand_> GeniusBrain: How to add app in python to left bar
[10:53] <GeniusBrain> Need to see this as a file folder inside my PC
[10:53] <Ben64> by PC you mean windows?
[10:53] <hillary_> Hello, when i run update i get'
[10:58] <SAngeli> Ben yes
[10:58] <SAngeli> Ben64, Yes, Windows 7
[10:58] <GoodHand_> GeniusBrain: Bye!
[10:58] <GeniusBrain> GoodHand_: do you have the app installed?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> GoodHand_: run the app, when it shows in the Unity launcher, right click it and select to lock it.
[10:59] <GeniusBrain> Problem with add app in python to left bar
[10:59] <Ben64> you could set /var/www to 777 and/or change owner, then have it shared with samba with no permissions
[10:59] <GeniusBrain> Moreover it is only on the /www so not much security issue
[11:00] <raven_> ive got an issue.. i have a laptop and pc, and i need to install windows on my pc but it has no dvd drive, and my usb is only 2 gigs.. is it possible to use a harddrive as like a usb?
[11:00] <Ben64> GeniusBrain: why do you keep repeating what people say
[11:00] <GeniusBrain> Mean windows?
[11:00] <GeniusBrain> Ben64: do you keep repeating what people say
[11:00] <Ben64> GeniusBrain: stop
[11:00] <GeniusBrain> Ben64: yeah
[11:01] <SAngeli> Ben64, no change owner. I could change group but is there a way I can add a user to root group? I ask this because if I am correct when I list /var/www I get drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  which tells me that the owner is "root" but also that the group is "root". Am I right?
[11:01] <Ben64> SAngeli: why not change owner?
[11:01] <fig> use Wubi, you can install Ubuntu with no DVD over your Windows installation
[11:01] <SAngeli> Ben64, because I do not know if this would have any impact on Apache running. Also, I have a differne case too. So
[11:02] <lombardo> SAngeli: change group doing this: chown sangeli.users /var/www/file
[11:02] <Ben64> SAngeli: it wouldn't affect apache
[11:02] <SAngeli> I wish to know if I can add sangeli to root group or similar
[11:02] <SAngeli> can I do so?
[11:02] <Ben64> you cannot
[11:02] <GeniusBrain> SAngeli: do you have the app installed?
[11:02] <SAngeli> So, my last resort is to access the share as root
[11:02] <SAngeli> I can do so, right?
[11:02] <Ben64> no
[11:02] <GeniusBrain> You can install Ubuntu with no DVD over your Windows installation
[11:03] <SAngeli> :-(
[11:03] <Ben64> i've already given you a solution
[11:03] <GeniusBrain> Possible to use a harddrive as like
[11:03] <lombardo> SAngeli: root group is wheel... if you want to add sangeli to wheel group, i think you need to do: usermod -g wheel sangeli
[11:03] <SAngeli> Ben64, here is another example: I wish to rwx on /var/log. I cannot go around the system and start changing ownership like I wish.
[11:04] <fig> The nice thing about using Wubi is you can access your Windows files as if they're in just another file
[11:04] <SAngeli> lombardo, thanks
[11:04] <SAngeli> I will try
[11:04] <fig> folder*
[11:04] <SAngeli> lombardo, it does not exist as group
[11:05] <Ben64> SAngeli: i've already given you a solution....
[11:05] <GeniusBrain> Like a usb?
[11:05] <SAngeli> Ben64, Ok, I get it.
[11:05] <lombardo> SAngeli: you sure?  look in /etc/groups .. is no wheel?
[11:05] <Ben64> lombardo: not on ubuntu/debian
[11:05] <GeniusBrain> Does not exist as group
[11:05] <lombardo> SAngeli: cat /etc/group
[11:05] <SAngeli> lombardo, I was unable to find it.
[11:05] <lombardo> oh i see
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> fig: you can do that in a regular install
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> Shows in the Unity launcher, right?
[11:06] <SAngeli> lombardo, cat /etc/group | grep wheel
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> fig: accessing windows partitions isn't unique to wubi installs
[11:06] <hillary_> Hello, when i run update i get " http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589308/" any where i have messed my system?
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> SAngeli wheel sangeli
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> Hi hillary_
[11:06] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: are you an op?
[11:06] <hillary_> hi
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: i'm not, just a member
[11:06] <fig> I know, but it's really fast
[11:06] <lombardo> SAngeli: well then add your user to root group
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> I can do so, right click it and select to lock
[11:06] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: darn, this bot is annoying, and nobody is here
[11:07] <GeniusBrain> Pc, and I need to see this as a file folder inside my PC
[11:07] <SAngeli> lombardo, which is the root group? is it admin?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: have you used:  !ops
[11:07] <hillary_> GeniusBrain,  hi
[11:07] <lombardo> SAngeli: root group is also called root
[11:07] <Ben64> i'm in #ubuntu-ops
[11:07] <GeniusBrain> hillary_: root group or similar
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> fig: what is fast?
[11:07] <hillary_> GeniusBrain, similar
[11:07] <GeniusBrain> hillary_: you sure? look in /etc/groups
[11:07] <fig> using Wubi rather than checking another harddrive partition
[11:08] <Ben64> hillary_: ignore GeniusBrain
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> Ben64: How to do it!
[11:08] <BrixSat> Morning
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> fig: its not really fast, a true install will be faster as it doesn't get affected by the shortcomings in NTFS
[11:08] <fig> you can browse videos for instance quickly
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> Share as root
[11:08] <lombardo> GeniusBrain is just pasting other peoples lines as answers to random people
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> Me see this as a file folder inside my PC
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> fig: you can do that in a non-wubi install
[11:08] <lombardo> GeniusBrain: right?
[11:08] <hillary_> Ben64, help
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> I need to install windows on my pc but it has no dvd drive, and I need
[11:08] <Ben64> hillary_: whats your issue?
[11:08] <fig> it isyou just hate windows
[11:09] <fig> I think
[11:09] <Ben64> !ops | GeniusBrain
[11:09] <fig> because I have tried both
[11:09] <GeniusBrain> Python to left bar! sublime text 2
[11:09] <GeniusBrain> I have problem with add app to left bar! sublime text 2
[11:09] <hillary_> Ben64, when i run update i get " http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589308/" any where i have messed my system?
[11:09] <GeniusBrain> Inside my PC
[11:09] <lombardo> Ben64: he is a bot, posting random lines it sees in channel... kick it out
[11:10] <Ben64> lombardo: I would if I could
[11:10] <lombardo> !ops GeniusBrain
[11:10] <hillary_> Ben64,  you got it?
[11:10] <lombardo> !op GeniusBrain
[11:10] <lombardo> !op
[11:11] <Ben64> hillary_: well the error says it all. you have a duplicate source
[11:11] <hillary_> Ben64,  yes how can i correct it please
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> fig: no, I just understand how NTFS degrades over time, this affects the wubi disk file directly
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> fig: Journalised file systems do not degrade nearly as much so is a much better option in that sense
[11:12] <Ben64> hillary_: open the software center, go to Edit and Software Sources, and uncheck the one that is duplicate
[11:12] <phoenixsampras> hello, ubuntu is crashing in my laptop
[11:12] <GeniusBrain> Hi phoenixsampras
[11:12] <lombardo> hillary_: it says you have duplicate entries in your sources.list... i would look in that file.. it is at /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <lombardo> hillary_: just comment it out if there is a duplicate there
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> fig: the ONLY good thing about Wubi imho is that the host partition is mapped automagically for you, otherwise the fact that wubi is so fragile makes it not suitable for long term use
[11:12] <GeniusBrain> I do so?
[11:12] <GeniusBrain> I have a duplicate there
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> fig: and fixing it is far from easy via liveCD (mount ntfs, loop mount wubi file etc).
[11:13] <GeniusBrain> Journalised file systems do not degrade nearly as much so is a duplicate source
[11:13] <BrixSat> how do i know if my ubuntu is hardware acelerated?
[11:14] <lombardo> !troll GeniusBrain
[11:14] <Ben64> lombardo: you gotta use a | to direct a trigger towards someone
[11:14] <Myrtti> lombardo: yes, we are aware you are alarmed about something. that's enough for now
[11:14] <Myrtti> lombardo: the ops are aware
[11:15] <GeniusBrain> We are aware
[11:15] <Firetux> hi
[11:15] <Firetux> hi RajneshSiwal1
[11:17] <RajneshSiwal1> Hi , Is there anyone to help me with Zentyal ?
[11:17] <BrixSat> how do i view if my pc is vga hardware acelerated?
[11:17] <Super_Dog> I need help with Zentyal...
[11:17] <Super_Dog> :-)
[11:17] <Ben64> BrixSat: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[11:17] <RajneshSiwal1> :)
[11:17] <RajneshSiwal1> OK. Whats your question ?
[11:17] <BrixSat> ben64 yes :)
[11:17] <Super_Dog> I'm a Zentyal retard....  but what's your question...
[11:17] <awisepilot> Hi, is any familar with Kernal Virtual Machine (KVM)?  I am having a problem connecting to a VM after I created it.
[11:18] <RajneshSiwal1> I need to migrate from OpenLDAP to Zentyal
[11:18] <RajneshSiwal1> There are some additional schemas that we have added to it
[11:18] <RajneshSiwal1> It includes samba, Password Policy and sudoers
[11:19] <Super_Dog> woww....  out of my league there.  I just got lucky and figured out how to make my little Atom server blades run some file sharing LAN server on Zentyal...
[11:19] <Super_Dog> That's about all I'm doing with Zentyal right now...
[11:19] <RajneshSiwal1> You should use it as an AD (PDC) it supports even GPOs
[11:20] <Super_Dog> what's a GPO?
[11:20] <RajneshSiwal1> Integrating both Linux and Windows Environment
[11:20] <lombardo> Super_Dog: it is GPU spelled wrong
[11:20] <RajneshSiwal1> GPO: Group Policies implementation in Windows Environment
[11:20] <RajneshSiwal1> As in Active Directory
[11:20] <Super_Dog> Did you lose the "O" somewhere?
[11:21] <Super_Dog> I see the "G" and the "P"...
[11:21] <lombardo> Group Policies Omplementation
[11:21] <awisepilot> Can anyone help with KVM?
[11:21] <Super_Dog> lombardo making me wet my pants dude...
[11:21] <musca> awisepilot: yes, in #kvm
[11:22] <awisepilot> musca, I create a successful guest with vmbuilder, but I can not connect to it.  The bridging looks right.
[11:23] <Super_Dog> honestly, I think I just got lucky setting up my Zentyal server...  The web interface and the $90 book are hairier than hell for me...
[11:23] <Super_Dog> I'm running the older version still - V 2.27....
[11:24] <RajneshSiwal1> ok
[11:24] <Super_Dog> Too scared to upgrade....  If it ain't broke - don't fix it right...
[11:24] <RajneshSiwal1> For Samba4 I created a Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKMtFyyxGI
[11:24] <lombardo> brazilian dancers?
[11:24] <Ben64> !ot | everyone
[11:24] <Super_Dog> You really think that Samba4 in Zentyal is going to work out of the box...?
[11:24] <Super_Dog> I have my doubts on that one...
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> I have tested it for basic functionality and works finr
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> http://www.youtube.com/user/rsiwal
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> We have some more videos in Linux on it.
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> May be they can help you out
[11:25] <Ben64> seriously, if you would like to talk to each other about zentyal, take it somewhere else, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[11:25] <awisepilot> Muska could you help me figure this KVM guest connection problem out?
[11:25] <musca> awisepilot: bridging "looks right"?
[11:26] <Hanmac_> kepler i found the culpit and it has nothing todo with dns ... it was the stupid magento shit ... :/
[11:26] <awisepilot> yes
[11:26] <RajneshSiwal1> My mistake
[11:26] <awisepilot> I can show you my netstat -n and ifconfig files
[11:26] <Super_Dog> Zentyal is ubuntu isn't it?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot musca wrong channel
[11:27] <musca> awisepilot: #kvm
[11:27] <awisepilot> what do you mean wrong channel
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> Super_Dog  if zentyal were the same as ubuntu, it would be called ubuntu
[11:30] <Super_Dog> OK.  -  I guess the command "lsb_release -a" must be lying to me then.  It says Ubuntu 10.04 on my Zentyal server terminal...
[11:31] <dr_willis> !zentyal
[11:31] <dr_willis> zentyl is a program not an os
[11:32] <Ben64> dr_willis: its both
[11:33] <jnhghy> does anybody know how to install adobe acrobat reader in ubuntu 12.04 64bit? I tried adding the ppa also downloading the .bin, .deb, .rpm from the adobe site all had issues. anybody has a solution that want's to share?
[11:33] <hillary_> dr_willis, hi, Kindly assist me with a command that will allow me to write into a root folder
[11:33] <ronin_1977> hi
[11:34] <Ben64> jnhghy: do you really need adobe's? ubuntu comes with a pdf reader by default
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: mark the .bin file as executable and run it using sudo
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hillary_: do you use a GUI OS?
[11:35] <ronin_1977> i need some information about video converter in linux
[11:35] <hillary_> dr_willis,  i want to alter a file in /etc/apt/sourcelist.txt ubuntu 12.04 is my os yes
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hillary_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sourcelist.txt
[11:35] <jnhghy> Ben64: I can't use evince because with some of my pdf's when I try to print I get inverted colors (even in print preview)
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: use terminal, lots easier
[11:36] <ronin_1977> i have ubuntu 12.10 , and download i little program called soun converter , but this program not work very well
[11:36] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: I made the .bin file executable and tried to run it but I get error message "No such file or directory"
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: then you need to change directory to where the file is held
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: you will also need to prefix the file with ./  as pwd is not in $PATH
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: so use:  sudo ./Acrobat.bin    or whatever the file name is
[11:37] <ronin_1977> soundconverter dont convert all files in the list . His stopped in the middle of task
[11:37] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: I did, then I typed only a few letters of the name of the pack and then hit "tab" and it founded the file .... so I'm giving the right command in the right place but still get the error, yes with ./ in front :)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: try using absolute path. Eg:  sudo /home/$USER/filename.bin
[11:38] <Super_Dog> jinghy:  I installed from Medibuntu repository  quite easily...    http://www.medibuntu.org/
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: I assume you used:  chown +x /home/$USER/filename.bin    to mark executable
[11:39] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: I ended up thinking it's an issue with the program running on 64bit is this not plausible?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: possibly, i've not used acrobat reader, let me see
[11:39] <Super_Dog> Just downloaded the font package and it gave me reader, too...
[11:39] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: thanks for the time, I'll try with absolute path.... if that won't work I'll try Super_dog solution. Thanks both...
[11:40] <Super_Dog> May not be the latest and greatest at medibuntu but it worked for me....
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: http://www.lorenzobettini.it/2012/11/install-adobe-reader-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-64bit/
[11:42] <hillary_> ActionParsnip: Thank you my issue is solved by gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <lutik> ;ffljfdo
[11:46] <embat> wassup
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:50] <jithu> hii
[11:50] <snql> what
[11:51] <jithu> anyone know how to get gui of huawei datacard in ubuntu?
[11:51] <jithu> anyone know how to get gui of huawei datacard in ubuntu?
[11:52] <jithu> hu kunjo
[11:52] <jithu> kunji
[11:52] <mathi> hi
[11:52] <jithu> hi
[11:53] <mathi> I try to find my wireless configs
[11:53] <mathi> I opened /etc/network/interfaces
[11:53] <fenbox> hello world
[11:53] <mathi> but there I don't see any SSID, WPA password, etc.
[11:53] <mathi> where can I find the settings ?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> fenbox, greetings
[11:53] <mathi> I do have internet with wireless, but I don't know where the authentication parameters are stored
[11:54] <hillary_> i want to get rid of all the eclipse in my system then install a new. How do i go a bout
[11:54] <donza> mathi: /etc/wpa_supplicant?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  sudo apt-get purge eclipse;sudo apt-get autoremove -- also remove config files (in ~/.config or so)
[11:57] <ziyadb> hey guys, quick question.
[11:57] <ziyadb> I run sudo su postgres then get prompted for that account's password. What is the password?
[11:57] <mathi> donza, I have sh scripts there
[11:57] <hillary_> MonkeyDust, how do i remove  ~/.config
[11:58] <mathi> donza, where is the config to change SSID ?
[11:58] <mathi> or WPA pasword :/
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  mind: the folder inside ~/.config -- like you would remove any other folder
[11:59] <mathi> nobody knows where the wireles configs are ?
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  in GUI: ctrl-h to show hidden folders
[12:02] <shomon> mathi: do you have an icon showing a wireless connection on the top of the screen?
[12:03] <mathi> shomon, i don't have a screen now ...
[12:03] <mathi> shomon, I have only a CLI
[12:03] <shomon> I think it's network-manager in /etc/init.d
[12:04] <mathi> shomon, this is a script and I don't see my network ID and other settings
[12:04] <mathi> shomon, when I do iwconfig I see all the settings... but where are they ???
[12:05] <mathi> :-(
[12:07] <calwig> where is the #kmail chan?
[12:08] <coz_> hey guys, up until 12.04 I used  python -c "import gtk; gtk.recent_manager_get_default().purge_items()"  to delete recent documents, it doesnt seem to work on 12.10..any revisions to that  action?
[12:09] <away> calwig, maybe try #kontact ?
[12:09] <calwig> away,  just about did :)
[12:12] <Diegosnat> hi guys, what kind of solution ubuntu uses to automount external hd????
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Diegosnat  /etc/fstab
[12:12] <jpds> Diegosnat: udisks
[12:13] <jpds> MonkeyDust: No.
[12:13] <Diegosnat> jpds, cheers
[12:13] <kostkon_> coz_, try from gi.repository import Gtk,  Gtk.rece... etc
[12:13] <Diegosnat> jpds, where is the config file?
[12:17] <zayan> guys
[12:17] <zayan> :?
[12:18] <zayan> helloo?
[12:18] <ProfessorBacon> hi
[12:18] <zayan> do you know how to use honeypot ?
[12:19] <zayan> heloo?
[12:22] <keyproblem> Is it stupid to create a user named backup in Ubuntu?
[12:23] <geek4ever> !aptitude
[12:24] <geek4ever> !smart
[12:24] <cfhowlett> keyproblem, if you have to ask ...
[12:25] <keyproblem> cfhowlett: I was wondering if perhaps something already used that name.. :(
[12:26] <keyproblem> cfhowlett: guess I could create anotehr user!
[12:27] <jnhghy> I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access
[12:28] <np8> Hi! I just updated to Ubuntu 12.10. Now i have some problems to connect to the internet (I'm here via different pc). How can I see that is my wifi-card broken, or is it just a settings problem? I can see my wifi's (My schools and my phone's shared wifi), but after I have connected to one, I cannot get to any website. Please, can somebody help me?
[12:29] <jnhghy> I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access
[12:34] <away> jnhghy, sudo apt-get install network-manager ?
[12:34] <jnhghy> is there a way to download "network-manager" package and save it on a memory stick? and install it after that?
[12:34] <jnhghy> away: I have no internet connection
[12:35] <away> oh, right
[12:35] <away> you can use apt-get download network-manager on another computer
[12:38] <jnhghy> away:thanks that should work for network-manager :)
[12:39] <iceroot> jnhghy: you have no network because you dont have network-amanger or no network because of no cable?
[12:39] <jnhghy> iceroot: I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access
[12:39] <iceroot> jnhghy: i guess that means "because i dont have network manager"
[12:39] <iceroot> jnhghy: you can configure your network via cli
[12:40] <bartzy> kernel compilation - Is that a good test for CPU benchmarking ?
[12:41] <jnhghy> iceroot: it might also mean that I got a lot of things uninstall and I'm not sure if network manager will fix the network connection: I tried eth0 up and got error reading the port. at this point I hope installing network-manager will fix this. how can I use cli?
[12:42] <cardpuncher> Hi, does anyone have the release date of Ubuntu 12.04.2? I read it was tomorrow but also that it was scheduled for like February 14th so I don't know.
[12:44] <away> cardpuncher, launchpad says it's expected in 11 hours
[12:45] <freakynl> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 server on a pre-existing hardware
[12:46] <freakynl> it has several md raid sets, 12 disks in total, I only want to recreate the OS partitions on the first 2 disks
[12:46] <cardpuncher> away: Yes, I definitely need the alx driver it will contain so I hope that 11 hours are true. But then, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule> says two more weeks.
[12:46] <freakynl> The problem is, it doesn't show sda in the partition toolie
[12:46] <freakynl> I can see it on the cli, but since that has no fdisk/cfdisk/gdisk/parted I can't do much there either
[12:46] <cfhowlett> freakynl, this might a question better suited to #ubuntu-server
[12:54] <keyproblem> Trying private key ---.ssh/id.dsa .. why won't it use my RSA key?? :/(
[12:55] <iceroot> keyproblem: what command exactly is using your dsa instead of rsa key?
[12:56] <keyproblem> iceroot: tried connecting with -vvv and it never said that if offered "rsa" only "dsa"
[12:56] <jpds> keyproblem: ssh -i .ssh/id_rsa
[12:58] <keyproblem> jpds: that didnt work either.. will try to create dsa key instead iceroot
[12:59] <jpds> keyproblem: Did you actually give it the full path to the RSA key file?
[12:59] <keyproblem> jpds: yup
[13:08] <histo> keyproblem: What are you tryinkg to do?
[13:10] <GoodHand_> Guten tag!
[13:11] <histo> !de | GoodHand_
[13:11] <GoodHand_> Ja Ja!
[13:11] <GoodHand_> Ich liebe Ubuntu de!
[13:11] <GoodHand_> German!
[13:11] <GoodHand_> German!
[13:12] <ioria> Hi. I run lubuntu 12.04 and  i cannot open file url (URL=file:///) in gnome-terminal.  any help ? thanks
[13:12] <GoodHand_> ubottu !help
[13:12] <drakonmane> guten tag
[13:12] <histo> ioria: You can't use links like that in gnome terminal
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !de
[13:12] <GoodHand_> !de
[13:12] <histo> !botabuse > GoodHand_
[13:13] <GoodHand_> ok
[13:13] <drakonmane> I want to speak germen
[13:13] <ioria> histo: I also installed gnome and in gnome i can :+
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> drakonmane  type /join #ubuntu-de
[13:13] <histo> ioria: can you explain a little more perhaps I don't understand what you are doing.
[13:14] <GoodHand_> Hi all!
[13:14] <histo> GoodHand_: Do you have a ubuntu related question?
[13:14] <ioria> histo: ok, sorry. i open gnome-terminal and a file with an url inside (ex. URL=file:///home/ioria/hello) and it opens with gedit
[13:15] <GoodHand_> Yes
[13:15] <GoodHand_> How to add Sublime text 2 (python app) to left bar
[13:15] <histo> ioria: How are you "opening" the file with a url in it?
[13:15] <ioria> histo: but in lubuntu nothing happens
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> GoodHand_  type /join #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:16] <jnhghy> I have a hdd that has ubuntu 12.04 with a lot of software that got removed(including network-manager) at this point I have that hdd in this computer that also has ubuntu 12.04. at this point I see 2 options: 1 I download and copy the missing packages and try to install them after I put the hdd back in it's computer or I reinstall the os-that brings me to a new question: if I reinstall the os can I simply copy paste the current profile? will it use the exi
[13:16] <jnhghy> sting config files? or is this out of the question?
[13:16] <GoodHand_> thx
[13:16] <ioria> histo: you create a file with inside written: URL=file:///home/user/filename
[13:17] <histo> jnhghy: Why not just copy everything with rsync? Or dd
[13:17] <blackshirt> hello, what is the website http://packages.ubuntu.com written with ?
[13:17] <jnhghy> histo: copying everything? what do you mean?
[13:18] <histo> jnhghy: Your question doesn't really makse sense.  Do you have two hdd's or one?  Are you trying to transfer data?
[13:19] <histo> blackshirt: looks like html to me
[13:19] <kunji> histo: ioria is referring to what is shown in the Location bar in Nautilus I think.  Hmm, I've never tried reaching something that way on the command line.
[13:20] <kunji> histo: Well, there's something like that syntax for Browse Network, I don't remember seeing it anywhere else though
[13:20] <ioria> kunji: no wait.... :-(  i'd like to open a file url in gnome terminal but i can't in lubuntu... but i CAN in gnome... why that ?
[13:20] <jnhghy> I'm very sorry if my question doesn't make sens, I'll try elaborate. I said I have a hdd with issues (I removed a lot of softwares from it) at this point that hdd is a slave in a nother computer(the computer I am using now) the data was not affected but I need a solution to fix the os on the hdd that has issues if the best way is to reinstall then I need also a solution to copy the config/customization files with apropriate rights....
[13:20] <histo> jnhghy: I don't know how else to say that for it to make sense.  Copying all your data.
[13:21] <histo> kunji: yeah smb://server  in nautilus
[13:21] <histo> ioria: and how do you open said file in terminal?
[13:21] <histo> jnhghy: rsync <<
[13:22] <histo> jnhghy: and What sort of issues do you mean?
[13:22] <kunji> ioria: That's just it, I don't know what you mean by a file url... files don't have urls, except I think for files on the network rather than on your machine.  Just what file are you trying to access?
[13:22] <jnhghy> histo: you told me a solutin then you ask me what I mean? does it make sens?
[13:22] <ioria> histo: if you write in gnome-terminal "URL=file:///home/user/filename" and you move your mouse over it it's highlighted
[13:22] <histo> Am I crazy or is everyone in here not making sense right now?
[13:22] <histo> jnhghy: rsync can copy your configs
[13:23] <kunji> histo: you're not crazy, I'm as confused as you are
[13:23] <histo> jnhghy: I originally thought you wanted to copy your entire drive. So I was saying you could use rsync or dd
[13:23] <blackshirt> histo: where i can get the source code for it ? is it freely available ?
[13:23] <ioria> histo: and right click you can choose "open link"
[13:23] <jnhghy> histo: thanks for this info, and the new os will use those config files? I need to use the same username? or how will it tell?
[13:23] <histo> blackshirt: right click view source
[13:24] <ioria> histo: and the file opens
[13:24] <kunji> ioria: The highlighting means nothing significant, I think it's just picking up on the syntax with : and // and thinking it's an http url.
[13:24] <histo> ioria: Okay well you can't right click on a file in gnome-terminal . So maybe you mean nautilus file browser.
[13:24] <usr13> histo: You're not crazy
[13:24] <ioria> histo: uffi ....
[13:25] <histo> ioria: uffi?
[13:25] <histo> wth
[13:25] <Ben64> actually, gnome-terminal does parse links and lets you click them
[13:25] <ioria> histo: it's a distress call :-)
[13:25] <usr13> Ben64: Yea, but it just copies the text; Right?
[13:25] <histo> Ben64: how is he even seeing the link if it's in a file in a terminal. He still hasn't explained that.
[13:25] <ioria> Ben64: thank you :-)
[13:26] <ioria> Ben64: you're my man
[13:26] <kunji> histo: You're not crazy yet, but by the end of today... :P
[13:26] <Kartagis> has anybody been experiencing an excessive system load when Chrome is running (not chromium)?
[13:26] <Ben64> usr13: nope; histo: it's not a file, he meant the link just in the terminal
[13:26] <kunji> histo: umm, maybe in a man page?  But I think it would be to a website not a file.
[13:26] <histo> Kartagis: chrome is a memory hog
[13:26] <PioneerAxon> Hey all, I recently started experiencing a new problem with the wireless hotspot. :/
[13:26] <histo> kunji: what?
[13:27] <Kartagis> histo: should I go back to chromium? it's flash-buggy
[13:27] <PioneerAxon> The machines can only connect when I have the network open (no security).
[13:27] <histo> Kartagis: chromium should have the same behavior
[13:28] <Kartagis> histo: so only option left for me is ff?
[13:28] <Jpmh> Kartagis: yes - chrome is horrible if you do not have a boatload of memory
[13:28] <PioneerAxon> One is running Ubuntu 12.10 (with intel 5100 chip) and another on 12.04 (with bcmw 4313).
[13:28] <Kartagis> Jpmh: 2gb
[13:28] <Jpmh> Kartagis: midori seems very low profile
[13:28] <histo> Kartagis: that's plenty of memory. There are lighter browsers though if that is your concern
[13:29] <kunji> histo: Well, for instance if you do man ls and scroll down to the Reporting Bugs section, there are urls to websites.  That's just about the only place I can think of where you would see urls in the terminal.  Well, or in web dev stuff.
[13:29] <usr13> If we want to [regularly] access a samba share on another [Linux] PC, it's probably easiest to set it up as an nfs share, and you can mount it on the local [Linux] PC as /home/user/samba-share or something like that.
[13:29] <Jpmh> Kartagis: 2gb with unity is probably not enough
[13:29] <Kartagis> Jpmh: cairo-dock
[13:30] <Jpmh> Kartagis: what?
[13:30] <ioria> Ben64: i can open 'URL=http:///www.google.com' but i can't open 'URL=file:///home/ioria/myfile' in lubuntu. But in gnome i can... do you know something about that ? please
[13:31] <PioneerAxon> Anyone?
[13:31] <kunji> ioria: Yeah, it parses links, I said that already, but files are not "links" per se.  So is it a link, or a file?  Can you screenshot this for us and paste it?
[13:31] <usr13> .... that's the way I'd do it....  Because there is nothing wrong with having a samba share also set up as an nfs share.  It's very convenient, (especially if you want to access it and manipulate the files via CLI.)
[13:31] <histo> PioneerAxon: How are you trying to connect when security is enabled?
[13:31] <Kartagis> Jpmh: I'm using cairo-dock
[13:31] <Ben64> ioria: use gnome? or don't use weird file links in a terminal
[13:31] <PioneerAxon> histo: Just as I normally did, host the hotspot on the first machine (12.10) and then connect with second (12.04)
[13:32] <ioria> Ben64: come again , plese ?
[13:32] <histo> PioneerAxon: You mean an ad hoc network?
[13:32] <Ben64> ioria: use gnome? or don't use weird file links in a terminal
[13:32] <Jpmh> Kartagis: never tried it
[13:32] <PioneerAxon> histo: I had the networks working a day back.. Then suddenly it won't connect, so I had tried different things, and found out that the only problem is with security.. :/
[13:33] <ioria> Ben64: i'm on lubuntu, but installed also gnome (in another session) and the link it's a link to a text file
[13:33] <PioneerAxon> histo: Yeah ad-hoc. Hosted by hotspot on 12.10
[13:33] <Ben64> ioria: why are you using links like that in a terminal? theres no good reason for it
[13:33] <xiaoy> Which is the ubuntu equivalent for  perl-Net-SSLeay.i686 perl-IO-Socket-SSL pkgs?
[13:33] <kunji> ioria: Is there a reason for wanting to use that format?  Why not just use the path to the file?
[13:34] <valentina> Olá.?
[13:34] <kunji> ioria: Or what's wrong with using a symlink?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> xiaoy  what is it supposed to do?
[13:34] <xiaoy> Mongolski, SSL auth
[13:35] <xiaoy> Mongolski, http://blog.lowkey.net.my/tag/authentication-not-supported-by-the-remote-smtp-server/
[13:35] <xiaoy> Mongolski, i've got the same problem with sendEmail
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> xiaoy  ubuntu server? if yes, they have their own channel #ubuntu-server
[13:35] <ioria> Ben64: you know that Lubuntu has not recent files menu so i parsed with xbel_parse the recently-used.xbel file and so i got all the files i used ... but i want be able to open them immediatly and in gnome i can but not in lubuntu
[13:36] <xiaoy> MonkeyDust, tkz going ;)
[13:36] <nico__> jpasion: -rw-rw-r-- 1 nico nico 9578 Jan 24 15:41 ./doc/html/customcompleter.html
[13:36] <nico__> -rw-rw-r-- 1 nico nico 9657 Jan 30 14:33 ./doc/qtcore/customcompleter.html
[13:37] <ioria> Ben64: the output of recently-used.xbel file is formed by links .... and i want to be able to open them
[13:37] <PioneerAxon> histo: This happened after I tried and failed to set up the hostapd network on the 12.10 machine.. I have reverted everything I ever did for that..
[13:37] <Ben64> ioria: then use gnome
[13:37] <ioria> Ben64: very smart answer :P
[13:38] <Ben64> well yeah, if lxde doesn't do what you want and gnome does, why try to force a square peg into a round hole
[13:38] <ioria> Ben64: gnome already has a recent file menu :)
[13:38] <Ben64> problem solved!
[13:38] <kunji> Ben64: Because the other peg is a triangle?
[13:39] <ioria> Ben64:    :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[13:39] <histo> !ics | PioneerAxon
[13:39] <usr13> ioria: thunar is nice too, actually, I like it better.
[13:39] <Ben64> ioria: of course, if you already have a script going to print file locations,  you could take it one step further and put them all in one folder as symlinks and view them graphically
[13:40] <ioria> Ben64:    ^o^
[13:42] <histo> ioria: it most likely doesn't work because pcmanfm is the default file manager in lxde
[13:42] <histo> ioria: as apposed to nautilus
[13:42] <PioneerAxon> histo: I am already using the network manager method.. I just can't connect if I set up a password.. This works fine with open network... It used to work before a day.. Strange...
[13:42] <usr13> I set thunar to View as Detailed List and toggle Name up or down and Date Modified up or down.
[13:42] <ioria> histo: i think you're right
[13:42] <ioria> histo: so ?
[13:43] <histo> ioria: So change the default file manager to nautilus
[13:43] <ioria> histo: i have to change the file manager ?
[13:43] <usr13> ioria: Or try thunar
[13:43] <ioria> histo: i used thunar in xfce
[13:43] <usr13> ioria: YOu can use it in lxde as well, if you want to.
[13:44] <ioria> usr13: i'll try that thanx
[13:45] <histo> ioria: got to LXDE menu > Accessories > File Manager   and right click properties. In the command window type nautilus
[13:46] <xkernel> how to backup the whole keystore?
[13:49] <usr13> xkernel: man keystore
[13:51] <xkernel> usr13, there is no keystore app, I mean the seahorse
[13:55] <rsavu> hello all. trying to start a script with upstart but the service is always starting (giving it a pid) and when typing status, it says it is not running. here is the script: http://pastebin.ca/2308924
[13:55] <nyRednek> as i was asking yesterday, which package is the installer?
[13:55] <usr13> xkernel: man keytool
[13:55] <usr13> xkernel: sorry for typo
[13:55] <MyMom> Hi
[13:56] <MyMom> When i can get new ubuntu for androids?
[13:56] <l057c0d3r> PioneerAxon, i had to set up connections manually for wifi with passwords for some reason with lubuntu.. for some reason there were permission errors when trying to use the connection menu that drops down from the lxde taskbar
[13:56] <usr13> nyRednek: installer for what?
[13:57] <Chiko> trying to remember a program that lets you connect to a ubuntu instance sort of like mstsc/rdp for windows
[13:58] <Chiko> ah nvm tightvnc
[13:59] <histo>  │                          | wifi with
[13:59] <histo> Chiko: rdesktop
[13:59] <usr13> nyRednek: Can you rephrase your question and add more detail?
[13:59] <histo> Chiko: is for windows. vino or tightvnc for vnc connections in linux
[14:00] <usr13> l057c0d3r: lxde  uses lxnm for network manager which is not fully functional, but you can install network-manager and use that.
[14:00] <histo> usr13: or wicd
[14:01] <usr13> l057c0d3r: Yes, as histo points out, there is also wicd
[14:01] <histo> usr13: nvm
[14:01] <nyRednek> usr13, i'm attempting to make a custom livecd without an "install" option
[14:01] <nyRednek> usr13, so which package would i remove from the cd?
[14:01] <l057c0d3r> usr13, i just no it worked better on the live cd then it did after being installed to the system.. i found a workaround and it works just fine for me now though..  but thanks for the advice.. i'll keep them options in mind
[14:01] <usr13> l057c0d3r: wicd may be your best choice while in lxde
[14:02] <usr13> l057c0d3r: Ok
[14:02] <lolmaus> I've installed a fresh Ubuntu 12.04 Server, and SSH won't let me in. Says "Software caused connection abort". Whyyy?
[14:02] <MichaelP> How do i configure audio for HDMI audio ? i opened kmix.. audio setup.. message poped up saying hdmi audio has been removed
[14:03] <Chiko> histo: how do i get the ubuntu server to accept connections for tightvnc? i set it up a while ago but i think i had to run something first
[14:03] <Chiko> cant remember the command
[14:03] <lolmaus> Also "Connection refused". :(
[14:04] <musca> lolmaus: ssh has a -v option for better messages
[14:04] <nyRednek> lolcat, is sshd running?
[14:04] <nyRednek> lolmaus, even
[14:05] <Chiko> crisis averted
[14:05] <lolmaus> musca, i'm connecting from Windows via Putty.
[14:06] <circle> How do I make WINE not insert itself as the default option for openeing a bunch of files (like text files, when I double click them it now opens them with notepad)
[14:07] <SAngeli> is there a difference for the password between an Admin user and the root user? Is there such a root password or account under ubuntu server? I ask this as when I changed the password for the user when I typed sudo -s I had to use the same user password. Can comeone please explain?
[14:07] <usr13> nyRednek: I dono, is it apt-install?
[14:07] <histo> Chiko: Did you install tightvnc server?
[14:07] <nyRednek> usr13, not sure
[14:08] <martin___> SAngeli: There is no root in Server either iirc
[14:08] <nyRednek> usr13, fwiw, i would be happy with an install with minimal GUI
[14:08] <histo> !root | SAngeli
[14:08] <SAngeli> I am just reading an article on this. Thank you histo
[14:09] <lolmaus> musca, "ssh -v localhost" works locally
[14:10] <nyRednek> lolmaus, might be a firewall issue
[14:10] <alcir> hi
[14:11] <alcir> what about showexec for vfat formatted disk?
[14:11] <alcir> there is an easy way to allow all files to be set executables?
[14:11] <alcir> I googled a bit
[14:11] <alcir> but solution offered are not so good...
[14:12] <usr13> nyRednek: install_cd ?
[14:12] <lolmaus> nyRednek, not using any on each end
[14:12] <nyRednek> usr13, researching, will tell you when i know
[14:13] <usr13> nyRednek: or cdromsomething-or-other.   like  cdrominstall?
[14:14] <usr13> nyRednek: I know that the alternate CD has cdromupgrade   so....?
[14:14] <usr13> nyRednek: Google doesn't seem to be much help on this...
[14:15] <nyRednek> usr13, booting into a livecd to see
[14:15] <hick12> hi everybody :) could I ask a quick question about the Ubuntu Windows Installer? Basically I just downloaded it on my laptop and installed it expecting the Windows bootloaders to come up when booting. Instead it jumps right into Ubuntu. Is there a way to get it to boot into the bootloader or do I have to restore the old master boot sector effectively prohibiting me from booting into Ubuntu?
[14:16] <usr13> nyRednek: Yea, just right click on the install icon and see what it says in properties.
[14:16] <usr13> ... should give the command name...
[14:17] <usr13> and test it from terminal.  And then see where it is.  which cdrominstall  or something....
[14:17] <usr13> but the command name is more than likely the app name as well, (I would suppose).
[14:17] <dw-> hick12: should be easy to add windows to your boot loader for selection
[14:18] <dw-> hick12: but i forget how. :P
[14:18] <hick12> reassuring at least^^
[14:19] <lolmaus> Okay, it was the router's firewall to blame.
[14:19] <nyRednek> usr13, forgot that i don't have virtualbox on this system
[14:19] <nyRednek> usr13, will tell you soon
[14:20] <zayan> hi
[14:21] <zayan> heloooo
[14:22] <sdwii> hick12: try this "sudo update-grub"
[14:25] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i configure FQDN ?
[14:25] <XATRIX> if i issue #hostname - it gives me "web-course", if i do hostname -f  it gives me back - "localhost" ?
[14:25] <XATRIX> My sendmail delays its transfer localhost sendmail[5556]: My unqualified host name (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry
[14:30] <lolmaus> How do i find out which network adapter (eth0, eth1) corresponds to which device model (nVidia, Marvell)?
[14:32] <dv-> lolmaus: dmesg | grep eth
[14:33] <nyRednek> usr13, it's ubiquity
[14:33] <lolmaus> dv-, no model name ther
[14:34] <dw-> model is in lsusb but no MAC addr some other ID :S
[14:35] <lolmaus> dw-, how do i determine which is which?
[14:38] <dholbach> Day 2 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starts in 22 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:38] <dw-> lolmaus: cant figure it out.. unplug one :P
[14:38] <orb> hi, napster.
[14:38] <BrixSat> what is the command line to access the aditional driver auto installer?
[14:39] <joelish> I am trying to connect to my server with RSA key but without success.. can anyone please look here? http://pastebin.com/adFPMUcH
[14:39] <nyRednek> usr13, you get that or did i lose connection before it got out?
[14:39] <biff_tannen> #factory_girl
[14:39] <napster> hi orb
[14:39] <biff_tannen> oops disregard that
[14:40] <IdleOne> BrixSat: gksudo jockey-gtk , or jockey-kde
[14:41] <BrixSat> IdleOne:  sudo: jockey-gtk: command not found (but it is installed)
[14:42] <IdleOne> BrixSat: hmm, not sure what to say.
[14:43] <BrixSat> IdleOne:  the package was merged to installer but it still exists in the repo altought does nothing!
[14:43] <blami> hi, what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu? Do I understand correctly it is still same distro but different default desktop and set of packages installed (so installing xfce desktop into ubuntu will turn it into what xubuntu is as well)
[14:44] <IdleOne> blami: correct
[14:44] <nyRednek> blami, close
[14:44] <IdleOne> BrixSat: sorry but I am at a loss
[14:44] <nyRednek> blami, xubuntu also has different office packages, etc
[14:44] <IdleOne> blami: actually, installing xubuntu-desktop to be precise
[14:44] <dw-> BrixSat: i see a similar bug reported.. what are you doing
[14:45] <blami> nyRednek, IdleOne thanks :)
[14:45] <BrixSat> dw-:  i want to see if my graphic card is installed cause some programs are laggy in vga, like the xbmc . how can i do that?
[14:45] <y2j> how do i isntall xampp-linux-1.8.1.tar.gz
[14:46] <y2j> or tar.gz in general
[14:46] <y2j> the script is in there but how do i know if its installe
[14:46] <dw-> BrixSat: click name -> system settings -> additional drivers ?
[14:46] <BrixSat> y2j:  you have to uncompress and read the README
[14:46] <Pici> y2j: You should use the LAMP stack in our repositories instead of a third parrt package like that.,
[14:46] <Pici> y2j: We will not troubleshoot XAMPP installs here.
[14:46] <ThinkT510> !xampp | y2j
[14:46] <BrixSat> dw-:  the aditional driver is not there
[14:46] <nyRednek> blami, but the same repositories, same base system, same system...just different package options
[14:46] <dw-> brianbgrp: apt-get install nvidia-current ? :)
[14:46] <dw-> wups
[14:47] <BrixSat> dw-:  this is an intel (00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[14:47] <BrixSat> )
[14:47] <y2j> thats long may as well stick to wamp on windows
[14:48] <BrixSat> y2j:  what is the point to install wamp or xampp in linux? why not apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[14:50] <blami> nyRednek: i like it is done this way, no diversity and easy transition :)
[14:50] <mathi> hey
[14:51] <mathi> when I start my computer, sometimes I get a menu with blackground, to chose generic, recovery mode, etc.
[14:51] <OTI> hello, i upgraded 12.04 to 12.10 and now my internet connection refuses to work. the top right icon says i'm online but i can't open any pages with browser nor ping via terminal
[14:51] <OTI> wired connection, now wlan
[14:51] <mathi> as I didn't have any screen, i couldn't chose, I would like my computer to chose the first entry always
[14:51] <OTI> not wlan, sorry
[14:52] <nyRednek> blami: whatever works
[14:52] <mathi> like on windows, when it prompts how to start the computer (normal mode, recovery, ...) there is a timer
[14:52] <mathi> I need the same thing
[14:52] <ThinkT510> mathi: it should already do that by default
[14:53] <ThinkT510> !grub | mathi
[14:53] <mathi> ThinkT510: unfortunately it was waiting forever for a keyboard entry
[14:54] <y2j> i have a spare hard drive any uses for it?
[14:54] <mathi> ThinkT510: how is this screen namede so that I can google ,?
[14:54] <mathi> *called
[14:55] <ThinkT510> mathi: i just gave you the link to the grub docs on the ubuntu wiki
[14:55] <mathi> thank you
[14:55] <histo> mathi: if you have a look in the /etc/default/grub  file you can set the timeout
[14:56] <histo> mathi: it's the grub boot menu
[14:56] <y2j> ok i have 64gb ssd for ubutnu, 256 for winodws 8 64bit enterprise and another 1tb for some winodws 8 progarms im going to add 2 3tb hard drives in raid
[14:56] <y2j> how do i tranfer all of the 1tb stuff to one of the 3tb hard drives so i can take the 1tb out and all the prgrams will work on the 3tb
[14:56] <y2j> then raid the 3tb with the other 3tb
[14:57] <jhutchins_wk> y2j: Build the raid first.
[14:57] <mathi> histo: in grub file I have "GRUB_TIMEOUT=10", but i promess you it was waiting forever and it wasnt showing any time counter
[14:57] <y2j> jhutchins_wk: When i install the 2 3tb i dont want it to break the mbr
[14:57] <y2j> it always does
[14:57] <histo> y2j: rsync -av source destination
[14:58] <y2j> ok build the raid
[14:58] <histo> mathi: change it and make sure you update-grub
[14:58] <nils_> mathi: it could be that grub recorded some sort of failure, which will cause it to not use a timeout
[14:58] <y2j> how about moving the 1tb data to the 3tb hd?
[14:58] <mathi> nils_:  how do I force it to use the timeout *in any case*
[14:58] <y2j> as the 1tb is f: drive the new 3tb has to become f otherwise windows registry will not open the files on the 3tb?
[14:59] <dw-> easier questions, plz
[14:59] <y2j> i use the 1tb for programs that dont need speed, so the 256ssd has some breathing room
[14:59] <nils_> mathi: I just read up on that very problem today, it should be sufficient to set GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT  in /etc/default/grub then do update-grub
[15:00] <Guest32263> I can't get the icedtea plugin to work properly, does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:01] <Guest32263> upon loading it always asks to "run this time" or "update plug-in"
[15:01] <mathi> thznks trying to reboot
[15:02] <funky1> hi all:)
[15:03] <funky1> got a question about ubuntu for mobile phones, will it be able to run normal linux applications or special apps need to be developed for it?
[15:03] <funky1> does anyone know this?
[15:03] <OTI> help with internet connection?
[15:03] <ThinkT510> !phone | funky1
[15:03] <funky1> ah thanks thinkt510 :)
[15:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm ok so i installed cairo dock. on lubuntu and the messenger thing is telling me i need the messenger service installed...  according to the docks in comes already installed on ubuntu.. but im taking it since lubuntu is light weight.. it is left out
[15:10] <l057c0d3r> so the question is.. what is the name of the message menu / messenger service used by ubuntu / unity so i could install :-)
[15:11] <mike160> hi can anyone help me out installing justcloud on ubuntu 10.4
[15:11] <mike160> i keep getting
[15:11] <mike160> •elena-IK• Unable to locate package JustCloud_32.deb
[15:11] <mike160> •elena-IK• Couldn't find any package by regex 'JustCloud_32.deb'
[15:12] <histo> ))))))))))))) │[10:12] [6] [irc/freenode] 2:#ubuntu(+CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged){1822}* [Act: 5:##linux]
[15:12] <histo>  │[10:12] [6] [irc/freenode] 2:#ubuntu(+CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged){1822}* [Act: 5:##linux]
[15:12] <histo> Sorry
[15:12] <histo> stupid touchpad
[15:12] <llutz> mike160: how do you try to install that? sudo dpkg -i  JustCloud_32.deb
[15:12] <FloodBot1> histo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <mike160> llutz i have the file download it on my computer
[15:14] <llutz> mike160: so use: sudo dpkg -i  JustCloud_32.deb               change into the directory containing the file before, or add the path to the deb
[15:14] <heywood> dumb bash question... i want to define alias foo="echo args: $0, $1, $2, $#, bar". but the command "foo arg1 arg2 arg3" gives me "args: -bash, , , 0, bar arg1 arg2 arg3" ... what am i missing?
[15:14] <Pici> heywood: Probably that you'd get a better answer asking in #bash
[15:15] <heywood> Pici: ah, thanks -- didn't see that channel. cheers.
[15:15] <zilkomaa> im depressed
[15:15] <llutz> heywood: you want functions not aliases when using optional parameters
[15:15] <zilkomaa> linux is so useless..
[15:15] <mike160> llutz ok thanks will try this
[15:15] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: not the best way to get help...
[15:16] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, Yeah i know
[15:16] <l057c0d3r> so any one..  know what package to install to get the messaging menu service ?
[15:17] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: perhaps you should state your issue?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  "the messaging menu service"?
[15:17] <l057c0d3r> yeah the messaging service
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  what messaging service do you have in mind?
[15:18] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, Hard to get radeon drivers working properly and in windows it is working so easy..
[15:18] <mike160> llutz i tryed sudo dpkg -i JustCloud_32.deb now am geting
[15:18] <freakynl> I'm getting a black screen after grub with 12.10 server. Any ideas? Adding nomodeset in grub (with e editing) doesn't make any difference :(. Is there anything else? I'd like to see the kernel booting
[15:18] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, 3D i mean
[15:19] <mike160> (Reading database ... 147579 files and directories currently installed.)
[15:19] <mike160> Preparing to replace justcloud <IP_ADDRESS> (using JustCloud_32.deb) ...
[15:19] <mike160> Unpacking replacement justcloud ...
[15:19] <mike160> Setting up justcloud (<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[15:19] <mike160> dpkg: error processing justcloud (--install):
[15:19] <FloodBot1> mike160: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <mike160> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[15:19] <mike160> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:19] <l057c0d3r> u know the envelope on unity... allows you to go offline / available / shows messages received from instant messengers
[15:19] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: i'm using the open source radeon drivers out of the box, sorry i can't help
[15:19] <l057c0d3r> that service is required for the cairo dock message system to work...  im on lubuntu not ubuntu.. so that service is not installed
[15:19] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, Ok, you fine with those?
[15:20] <histo> MonkeyDust: I think he means the notifier
[15:20] <Allan_> guys. is this the right kernel module for an ati sound device? http://pastebin.com/fi4TF9gK
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  histo  i missed the cairo and lubuntu part
[15:20] <l057c0d3r> i installed gir1.2-messagingmenu-1.0 but im thinking that was either not right.. or i have to start it.. which if starting it is the case i have no idea how
[15:21] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: no problems whatsoever
[15:21] <ozcanesen> apt-get can't find python-xlib on raring, any idea why?
[15:21] <histo> l057c0d3r: What error are you getting with cairo-dock?
[15:21] <OTI> hello, i upgraded 12.04 to 12.10 and now my internet connection refuses to work. the top right icon says i'm online but i can't open any pages with browser nor ping via terminal. (wired connection)
[15:21] <l057c0d3r> the messaging service did not reply..  please make sure it is installed correctly
[15:22] <l057c0d3r> and in there docks. it said that it is already installed in ubuntu.. i thought that maybe it was just missing on lubuntu.. and i could simply install it
[15:22] <l057c0d3r> err doc's
[15:22] <l057c0d3r> but no clue what i'm supposed to install
[15:22] <histo> l057c0d3r: No dependancies should be pulled if you installed cairo-dock from software center.
[15:22] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, You play bluray (.mkv) movies without no problems?
[15:23] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: never tried
[15:23] <njd002> heeeeey good morning!
[15:23] <compdoc> heeeeey isnt here
[15:23] <l057c0d3r> basicly im trying to install ubuntu/unity messsaging system on lubuntu..  just dont know what packages to install
[15:23] <dw-> OTI: are you running ubuntu on virtualbox
[15:24] <OTI> no, normal desktop
[15:24] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, What u do with ubuntu then? just hangin?
[15:24] <njd002> so silly question...again.. :P does ubuntu acknowledge TPM and if i create bare metal image into qcow2 that is tpm encrypted i cannot pass tpm through libvirt to the vm can i ?
[15:25] <OTI> dw-:  tried to connect my computer with a phone, that didn't work either
[15:25] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: music, movies, browsing, chat, printing
[15:25] <l057c0d3r> ThinkT510, don't forget games :-P  ryzome runs great..  realms online..  diablo II with wine
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> zilkomaa  ubuntu has some more features than just playing bluray
[15:26] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: not much of a gamer sorry
[15:26] <njd001> be right back...
[15:26] <histo> l057c0d3r: How did you install cairo-dock?
[15:27] <l057c0d3r> through the software center
[15:27] <threex5> Is there a way to get nautilus preferences back on gnome fallback?
[15:27] <threex5> I like to be able to single-click folders, instead of double-click
[15:27] <histo> l057c0d3r: then you should have everything needed to run cairo-dock
[15:27] <mstenta> I'm looking for recommendations for a decent Ultrabook that works with Ubuntu… any thoughts out there? :-)
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> threex5  edit
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> threex5  edit, preferences, behaviour
[15:28] <zilkomaa> MonkeyDust, Like what vs other platforms?
[15:28] <histo> l057c0d3r: maybe ask in #cairo-dock  They may be able to explain the error.
[15:28] <zilkomaa> MonkeyDust, and i dont mean hacking
[15:28] <threex5> ah, excellent
[15:28] <threex5> thanks so much
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> zilkomaa  pc's can be used for several different things, each uses the programs he needs or likes
[15:29] <dw-> OTI: system settings -> Network is Airplane mode on?  Not sure that works for wired connects...
[15:29] <zilkomaa> MonkeyDust, yeah sure with slower pc's linux is fine..
[15:29] <threex5> MonkeyDust (and whomever), do you know how to enable shadows/compositing in metacity, in gnome fallback? I read that if you don't want to use compositing, you can still use shadows in gnome classic (no effects).
[15:30] <OTI> dw, where do you find that one?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> threex5  no, i don't like/use eyecandy very much
[15:30] <l057c0d3r> zilkomaa..  i haven't touched windows in such a long time....   i can do all i need from linux.. including games/steam/netflix(which dosn't work perfectly but meh)
[15:31] <dw-> OTI: toolbar username > system settings > Network
[15:31] <l057c0d3r> zilkomaa, and this is not a slow pc.. it is a very nice computer....
[15:31] <OTI> dw, Network found but airplane?  :O
[15:32] <Allan_> guys. is this the right kernel module for an ati sound device? http://pastebin.com/fi4TF9gK
[15:32] <OTI> dw, i have two options, wired and network proxy
[15:32] <dw-> OTI: its at the top
[15:32] <zilkomaa> l057c0d3r, heh ok games run smooth ?
[15:33] <dw-> OTI: prob wireless only :P
[15:33] <histo> !ati | zilkomaa
[15:33] <dw-> OTI: maybe a driver :(
[15:33] <l057c0d3r> i play skyrim.. just fine..
[15:33] <phoenixsampras> why using exfat makes the computer slow ?!????
[15:34] <OTI> dw, yep maybe for wireless because no airplane found
[15:34] <njd001> back :)
[15:34] <phoenixsampras> How to disable Compiz???
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  unity is a compiz plugin
[15:35] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: if you are on unity it would be a bad idea to disable compiz
[15:36] <nyRednek> ok, i'm having an issue getting afterstep to appear in the lightdm menu
[15:36] <histo> ThinkT510: does unity2d use compiz?  Ofcourse he would only be able to do that in 12.04
[15:36] <ThinkT510> histo: no, it uses metacity
[15:36] <dw-> OTI: ping <IP_ADDRESS> works /
[15:37] <dw-> OTI: could be dns
[15:37] <phoenixsampras> oh shit... then i dont want Unity... i want gnome
[15:37] <phoenixsampras> how to install decent gnome? i dont need effects or other stuff
[15:37] <ozette> I've reached the point to where my windows e.g. "File", "Edit", "View" et al show empty boxes, how can I get them to show their options again
[15:37] <OTI> dw, yes that ping <IP_ADDRESS> works for some reason
[15:37] <dw-> OTI: dns servers are messed up
[15:38] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, or lubuntu??  lxde is amazing
[15:38] <OTI> what's dns
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> domain name service
[15:38] <dw-> OTI: they convert hostname.com to IP for connection
[15:38] <histo> phoenixsampras: what version of uubntu are you using?
[15:38] <OTI> so is this problem in my end or someone's else?
[15:39] <dw-> OTI: so host google.com will fail etc
[15:39] <phoenixsampras> histo: 12
[15:39] <phoenixsampras> l057c0d3r: damn.. that means i need to reinstall?
[15:39] <phoenixsampras> this unity stuff is crap, where is gnome?
[15:40] <dw-> OTI: its your config or router/ISP
[15:40] <OTI> i have this computer and the problem one in same router, and this one's connection works fine
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  install some other DE, logout, select DE, login
[15:40] <ThinkT510> !gnome2 | phoenixsampras
[15:40] <l057c0d3r> unity is not bad.. just a little more resource hungry... there is a unity2d option
[15:40] <histo> nyRednek: Isn't afterstep dead?
[15:40] <phoenixsampras> oh cool, where is that unity2d ?
[15:40] <l057c0d3r> at login screen you can choose to use it instead..
[15:40] <histo> phoenixsampras: 12 what?
[15:40] <histo> phoenixsampras: cat /etc/issue
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  12.04 or 12.10
[15:41] <phoenixsampras> where it says?
[15:42] <dw-> OTI: some report sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/backup.resolv.conf fixes it
[15:42] <phoenixsampras> ubuntu 12.10
[15:42] <phoenixsampras> ive loged out, but i cant find a menu where to chose unity 2d ?
[15:43] <l057c0d3r> bah.. was reading online and it sais here that it was removed from 12.10
[15:43] <histo> phoenixsampras: yeah it's not availibel on 12.10
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  maybe you have to install it first
[15:43] <phoenixsampras> oh dammit
[15:43] <phoenixsampras> how to install it?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> and mind your language
[15:43] <l057c0d3r> and that unity now uses llvmpipe for people that do not have enough resources to run unity..  which would make unity run like unity2d did
[15:43] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: you don't install unity2d on 12.10
[15:44] <zilkomaa> i love win7
[15:44] <l057c0d3r> so one unity for everyone now
[15:44] <phoenixsampras> omg... then how i can get a decent gnome?
[15:44] <zilkomaa> and subutex
[15:44] <zilkomaa> and ssd drivers
[15:44] <zilkomaa> and ssd drives
[15:45] <histo> phoenixsampras: well there is gnome shell and gnome mate  ?
[15:45] <histo> zilkomaa: please join #windows then
[15:45] <zilkomaa> ima geek and have no friends or girlfriends whatsoever
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> zilkomaa: want a cookie?
[15:45] <phoenixsampras> sudo apt-get install full-gnome3-experience
[15:45] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: poor dude, but this is ubuntu support
[15:45] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, check this page out
[15:45] <l057c0d3r> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> !info full-gnome3-experience
[15:45] <DJones> zilkomaa: Thats your business, the channel is only interested in Ubuntu support
[15:46] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:46] <l057c0d3r> :-)
[15:46] <zilkomaa> sudo apt-get working gpu-drivers
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: could just install openbox and ditch the desktop environment all together
[15:46] <ahungry> hi all, I have a server running the old ubuntu 7.04, at this moment a reinstall of a current distro isn't possible, however due to an rsync issue I need to upgrade rsync to any version over 3.0.7, I see lucid lynx has that version
[15:46] <ahungry> how would I go about installing a versino of rsync from a newer distro on an older one
[15:46] <histo> !gnome3 | phoenixsampras
[15:46] <phoenixsampras> ouch...
[15:46] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, yeah....  but he was asking for gnome 2 so i figured he wanted a taskbar
[15:47] <ThinkT510> ahungry: you don't
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> ahungry: Gutsy is EOL, plese upgrade to a newer release
[15:47] <phoenixsampras> omg...
[15:47] <ThinkT510> ahungry: get a supported release
[15:47] <histo> phoenixsampras: What?
[15:47] <phoenixsampras> so i dont have unity2d, nor gnome3....
[15:47] <l057c0d3r> and zilkomaa my ati drivers work fine
[15:47] <l057c0d3r> and have catalyst control center on here as well
[15:47] <phoenixsampras> i just want the old fashion gnome
[15:47] <histo> !ati > zilkomaa
[15:47] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: gnome2 is dead, move on
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: then install gnome-panel, log off and log in to the new session
[15:47] <histo> !mate | phoenixsampras
[15:47] <l057c0d3r> no you can get gnome 3
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  getting used to unity is faster than shouting and complaining for hours on end
[15:48] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: my favourite is xfce
[15:48] <phoenixsampras> well i like unity... just is hell SLOW.... unusable
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: I suggest xfce if you like the 2 panel desktop style
[15:48] <zilkomaa> jb
[15:48] <zilkomaa> ubottu, thnx
[15:48] <histo> !notunity | phoenixsampras
[15:48] <phoenixsampras> how to install nvidia drives?
[15:48] <zilkomaa> bot
[15:49] <histo> !nvidia > phoenixsampras
[15:49] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, have youj installed graphics drivers?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: if its a switchable GPU, you need bumblebee
[15:49] <histo> phoenixsampras: it could be slow because your not using nvidia propriatary drivers.
[15:49] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: is a laptop
[15:49] <phoenixsampras> core i7 vaio
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: if your CPU has a sandy/ivy bridge, then its switchable
[15:50] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, heh now you lost me too :-p
[15:50] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: how to know if its sandy?
[15:50] <histo> l057c0d3r: some laptops can switch between the sandy bridge display and nvidia to save power.
[15:51] <phoenixsampras> oh, then i suppose is switchable
[15:51] <l057c0d3r> oh
[15:51] <phoenixsampras> however, where is restricted drivers are available. ?
[15:51] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: under software sources
[15:51] <histo> l057c0d3r: It's the most useless thing I've ever seen. They should just make a low power consuming nvidia card for laptops.
[15:51] <histo> phoenixsampras: in the settings
[15:52] <l057c0d3r> histo, but but.. i play games on my lappy :-p let it pull power... i need the resources lol
[15:52] <phoenixsampras> all the docs seems outdated
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: what is the full model of the system?
[15:52] <histo> phoenixsampras: What docs?
[15:52] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, go to software center..  click properties / settings...  click software sources tab..
[15:52] <histo> l057c0d3r: doesn't need to do that for nvidia drivers.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: you can also check with:  sudo lshw -C display     if you see an Intel GPU too, then its switchable
[15:52] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: ubuntu isn't that great at keeping the wiki up to date
[15:53] <histo> ThinkT510: the comunity isn't that great you mean.
[15:53] <ThinkT510> histo: indeed
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: its a wiki, so YOU can update it if you wish
[15:53] <phoenixsampras> product: GT216 [GeForce GT 330M]
[15:53] <phoenixsampras> No Intel on sight
[15:54] <histo> ThinkT510: this page is less than a month old https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: cool, no problem then :)
[15:54] <histo> ThinkT510: that's the link I sent him.
[15:54] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: im installing NVIDIA Xorg driver... tested
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     reboot to test
[15:54] <OTI> if i ping <IP_ADDRESS> i get response back but however ping www.google.fi doesn't work. that ip is for www.google.fi. does this tell something?
[15:55] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: okis, cancelling last action
[15:55] <ikonia> OTI: your dns is not working
[15:55] <l057c0d3r> heh..  well on this lappy.. i had to install pulseaudio in lubuntu.. to get sound working :-/
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> OTI  it means it's a DNS issue
[15:55] <histo> OTI: yes your DNS is not working
[15:55] <dw-> OTI: check the private msg.. try at prompt: sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/backup.resolv.conf
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: i see that quite a lot, very weird
[15:55] <llutz> dw-: that will break dns completly
[15:55] <threex5> so i read that gnome classic is going to be phased out. for those of you who refuse to use unity, what do you plan to do?
[15:56] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> OTI: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[15:56] <histo> OTI: can you please tell us what is in /etc/resolv.conf  for nameservers
[15:56] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, i think it had something to do with the hdmi port exts..
[15:56] <ikonia> OTI: ignore what dw- said
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: sudo apt-get update
[15:56] <l057c0d3r> err ext...  and alsa wanting to use it and not the speakers on the lappy...
[15:56] <ikonia> name servers are 127.01.1.
[15:56] <ikonia> ubuntu uses dnamasq now by default
[15:56] <ThinkT510> threex5: do you have a support issue?
[15:56] <dw-> multiple people say it works @ http://tinyurl.com/cud6ec2
[15:56] <l057c0d3r> and alsamixer would not let me switch to the other device...  didn't even show it in the list
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: even in F6?
[15:57] <l057c0d3r> yep
[15:57] <ikonia> dw-: dw- blindly doing it is bad
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> OTI: use the command I gave and get fully updated, may help
[15:57] <vlt> Hello. I want to trigger a script by an email arriving. Any idea how to solve this? What tools does Ubuntu offer for such a task?
[15:58] <threex5> ThinkT510, I guess not.
[15:58] <threex5> nevermind
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vlt: which email client?
[15:58] <ikonia> vlt: you'll need your MTA to do that, or your delivery agent to do it
[15:58] <histo> ikonia: How is dnsmasq configured then?
[15:58] <ikonia> histo: it's very annoying
[15:58] <phoenixsampras> quantal is the god of cows for mexicans?
[15:58] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, i take that back.... it would show the generic and the hdmi.. but no matter what i did.. unmute increase levels.. no sound came out
[15:59] <histo> ikonia: isn't resolvconfd  used still?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: funky, its not a massive overhead which is a bonus
[15:59] <ikonia> histo: it points all your requests via librsolver to <IP_ADDRESS>, then runs dnsmasq on that local address
[15:59] <ikonia> histo: that I don't know without looking
[15:59] <dw-> OTI: youll get it soon :) later
[15:59] <histo> ikonia: yeah resolvconf  is still installed
[16:00] <ikonia> histo: still used though
[16:00] <histo> ikonia: you can still specify nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> OTI: does my command help?
[16:00] <ikonia> histo: mega
[16:00] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, yeah.. i love lubuntu..  but it has tons of glitches with it..  network manager error... (simple workaround) sound error (simple workaround)..  now this messenger service.....  but oh well..  easier then my gentoo/fluxbox setup i use on my desktop to maintain though
[16:00] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Completely undefined. If possible I would like a non GUI solution. Is there a cli email client that can hold a connection to an IMAP account and instantly react (like Thunderbird does)?
[16:00] <histo> ikonia: mega?
[16:00] <threex5> actually, I do have a question: In gnome, alt+right-click used to resize windows but it doesn't work in gnome fallback. is there a way to bring this back
[16:00] <threex5> ?
[16:00] <ikonia> histo: "great"
[16:01] <histo> l057c0d3r: /j #lubuntu
[16:01] <threex5> also it would be nice to program other key commands but this isn't in preferences anymore
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> vlt: there is gmail watcher (similar for generic emails) and you can tell it to run a command and make a noise on new emails
[16:01] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Sounds great
[16:01] <histo> vlt: mutt
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> histo:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is generated (cat the file)
[16:02] <histo> vlt: although what do you mean by instantly react?
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: No it isn't
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: That's the head of the /etc/resolv.conf  file
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> histo: cat the file, you'll see
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> histo: cat  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: No it's not
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: how do you think that message gets at the head of /etc/resolv.conf
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: from that file
[16:03] <xangua> threex5: don't you mean alt+middle button¿
[16:03] <OTI> histo, cat /etc/resolv.conf gives nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589964/
[16:03] <histo> OTI: now ping google.fi
[16:03] <histo> ActionParsnip: Perhaps you don't understand.
[16:03] <threex5> xangua, thank you. In mate it was right click
[16:03] <vlt> histo: Thunderbird, for example, shows me the “new mail” popup in the very moment a new email arrives on the server.
[16:03] <llutz> ActionParsnip: that is the part being copied into /etc/resolv.conf
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> histo: the file is made, you can edit the base file without issue
[16:03] <threex5> i thought it was the case in gnome 2 as well. it seems that some key bindings have changed subtly
[16:03] <OTI> ActionParsnip: that echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null didn't do anything, nothing visual at least
[16:04] <histo> ActionParsnip: No you're not getting it
[16:04] <BluesKaj> histo, cat works here shows the nameservers, domain and search
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> OTI: it doesn't, that's why I used /dev/null :)
[16:04] <llutz> ActionParsnip: you can edit all those files without issues, they will be copied and build "/etc/resolv.conf"
[16:04] <histo> ActionParsnip: the resolvconf  package generates the /etc/resolv.conf from the head and base
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> OTI: you can now run:   sudo apt-get update    and be ok
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> histo: llutz: I see, I'd leave the header alone, the base is much neater
[16:05] <OTI> histo, ping www.google.fi works but no pages open
[16:05] <histo> ActionParsnip: The head is just a commented message
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> OTI: can you get updates now?
[16:05] <histo> OTI: ping doesn't open pages
[16:05] <llutz> ActionParsnip: to override networkmanager you'll have to edit head, not base, to get your entries first
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> histo: gotcha
[16:05] <l057c0d3r> hmm i was thinking about droping xcompmgr and installing compiz.. but wouldnt that replace openbox?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: yes as both are window managers
[16:06] <l057c0d3r> thats what i thought
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: you can run just compiz on its own
[16:06] <histo> ActionParsnip: after editing you also have to restart resolvconf
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> histo: true
[16:06] <OTI> histo, ActionParsnip, thanks after that sudo apt-get update network is back, thank you :)
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> OTI: yay
[16:07] <histo> OTI: although I fear your dns is only fixed temporarily
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> OTI: get fully updated then reboot, the edit to resolv.conf is not permanent but the updates may make it ok
[16:08] <OTI> ActionParsnip: get fully updated? means check latest update via software update or what?
[16:08] <Blacklite_> hello
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> OTI: just run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:09] <nullby7e> how its working video ati 5xxx with ubuntu 12.10?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> OTI: software centre is too slow for my tastes :)
[16:09] <nullby7e> about video drivers
[16:09] <Blacklite_> I'm a quite advanced linux user (2years with various distros) and I'd like to give back to the community by offering advice to Linux Newbies, where should I go?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> nullby7e: should be ok, 12.10 hates 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[16:10] <DJones> !contribute | Blacklite_
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: http://askubuntu.com   (if memory serves)
[16:10] <Blacklite_> I didn't necessarily mean with ubuntu
[16:10] <Chaorain> Hey, I'm getting an error, "Dependency not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.15)" im on Ubuntu 10.04 and can't upgrade because my computer is ancient. I have libc6 version 2.11.1-0 installed. is there an easy way to fix this?
[16:11] <Blacklite_> although that is where most newbies go.
[16:11] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: why 12.10 when i install manual drivers by nvidia.com GUI shows nothing I mean only wallpaper becouse 650ti geforce not works well with default drivers in 12.10
[16:11] <Tribaal> hi all, does 13.04 xstart break from other testers?
[16:11] <xangua> !13.04 | Tribaal
[16:11] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: when i startx with manual driver it shows only wallpaper nothing other
[16:11] <Blacklite_> Chaorain: compile libc6 from source
[16:11] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: the same and with new custom build kernel
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nullby7e: try installing xfce4 package, then log in to the xfce session
[16:12] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: ok what about kernel?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nullby7e: we can't support home compiled kernels
[16:13] <nullby7e> ok
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[16:13] <MarkShuttleworth> AND I AM YOUR GOD
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[16:14] <kostkon> ...
[16:14] <OTI> ActionParsnip: after sudo apt-get update && upgrade && dist-upgrade && reboot network is doing fine, thank you
[16:16] <Rabblerouser> So I installed the ATI Catalyst official Linux drivers for my GPU... but now it seems to want to default to nothing but 4:3 resoluitons
[16:17] <Rabblerouser> Anyone able to helps?
[16:17] <threex5> How do i edit or create custom keybindings in gnome fallback?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> OTI: even after a reboot?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: what is the GPU and which release?
[16:18] <Rabblerouser> Ubuntu 12.10 and ATI Radeon HD 4670
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: the Xorg in 12.10 doesn't run well on 4xxx ATi GPUs.
[16:18] <Rabblerouser> It also seems to make Unity not work
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: there is a legacy PPA you can use
[16:20] <Rabblerouser> I take it this is soemthign that won't be fixed in later Ubuntus.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[16:20] <Blacklite_> I want to create a bare-bones system for playing minecraft on as fast as possible, what programs would you guys suggest?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: use the Tomasz Makarewicz PPA
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: ubuntu minimal, fluxbox, wicd, slim
[16:21] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: I like the way you think
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: if you use a wired link, you won't even need wicd
[16:21] <Blacklite_> It's offline.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: then you won't need it if there is no network access needed
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: then grab java from the java ppa and you are off
[16:22] <Rabblerouser> I'm just curious if in sometime in the future, I would have to use the terminal to get this driver working right.
[16:22] <Blacklite_> that's pretty simple.
[16:22] <Blacklite_> is there a tool I can use for building a custom ubuntu iso?
[16:23] <Blacklite_> inb4 uck
[16:23] <OTI> ActionParsnip: yes even after reboot
[16:24] <u_OL> tornadoes coming, wish me luck lol.  bbl hopefully ;D
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> OTI: good, then its fixed fixed
[16:24] <OTI> :)
[16:25] <threex5> a lot of preferences are missing. For instance, how do I add a printer now? Is there a way I can get basic preferences back in gnome fallback?
[16:25] <Rabblerouser> There is a temp fix if you have seperate wms installed, though, when you ahve the graphics issues. :D
[16:25] <sunguoyao> jion in then out
[16:25] <Psycho_Mantis> Hey everybody
[16:26] <xangua> threex5: i see the printer settings in unity and in system center
[16:26] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: that was so helpful that I almost cried.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: its fun to make your own. I just use minimal and build up (after removing the pre-release bloat I usually have)
[16:27] <threex5> system settings. I see. thank you
[16:27] <Blacklite_> yeah bloatware sucks
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> geeks... ;)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: there's just a lot of stuff in a default OS which I don't use. I'm using xpud more and more these days
[16:28] <Blacklite_> xpud?
[16:28] <Blacklite_> sorry for my ignorance, I'm usually a slackware user
[16:29] <ross`> what does ubuntu use for flash?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: a very quick to boot limited OS. Pretty much just a browser and a torrent client
[16:29] <ross`> is there a package for it?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ross`: there are options
[16:29] <ross`> ActionParsnip: i want whatever is similar to debian flashplugin-nonfree
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ross`: you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get flash