[12:00] <ahmad> im trying my best to survive, i left windows hating it now im regretting
[12:00] <ahmad> lol
[12:00] <crueldog> you know what? more i use linux, more i think Linux SUCKS!
[12:00] <crueldog> too hard to understand!
[12:00] <tritium> crueldog: you're entitled to that opinion
[12:00] <james_xxx> apokryphos, you helped me out a lot... one more question... after KDE is up and running, how would i go back to GNMOE if i wanted to do that?
[12:00] <crueldog> ...
[12:00] <bakert> You could say the same about windows, if you came to if for the first time today.
[12:00] <Nameless`> crueldog its not that difficult, just getting started is kinda crappy
[12:00] <Jowi> ahmad: on ventrilo.com it says that linux client is in development, but the server is ready for download
[12:01] <crueldog> just that, i want a ftp server!
[12:01] <james_xxx> GNOME*
[12:01] <bakert> What's more, linux is free, in more than one sense, and has 0.0001% of the viruses.
[12:01] <crueldog> ni heard that l;inux is automatiquely one!
[12:01] <cdubya> hey tritium, /me waves
[12:01] <apokryphos> crueldog: do not troll in here
[12:01] <bakert> So it might be worth persevering ...
[12:01] <Nameless`> i noticed that the most complicated shit is well documented, but figuring a basic thing goes like.. shite
[12:01] <tritium> hi cdubya
[12:01] <mjr> crueldog, you heard wrong.
[12:01] <crueldog> what does troll means?
[12:01] <apokryphos> james_xxx: just select "gnome" on the session before logging in
[12:01] <bakert> Nameless`, for example?
[12:01] <artis> linux is however less free in terms of licencing, if we compare it to a more liberal counterpart -- the bsd.
[12:01] <james_xxx> apokryphos, ty once again
[12:02] <crueldog> apocryphos, what does troll means?
[12:02] <bakert> artis, that's certainly up for debate, but it was being compared to windows, where the source is closed and the cost is ... variable.
[12:02] <artis> sure.
[12:02] <bakert> crueldog, it means taking up a silly or argumentative position to get a reaction.
[12:02] <apokryphos> crueldog: google "troll means"
[12:02] <tritium> crueldog: disparaging remarks just to stir it up
[12:02] <Jowi> ahmad: that is, if it is the "surround sound voice..." you are looking for.
[12:02] <crueldog> bye.
[12:02] <Nameless`> ghehe well i can understand crueldog though :P
[12:03] <Nameless`> some things go rather frustrating if you are new to it
[12:03] <Nameless`> linux is like having sex for the first time, you really want it, but you can be sure after it will be disapointing till you get more used to it
[12:03] <bakert> lots of computer-related things are frustrating
[12:03] <erUSUL> artis: i tend to disagree. gpl ensures freedom bsd on the other hand does not. but is a counter productive flamewar so i will remain silent... (emacs rulez XD)
[12:04] <bakert> it is a complex activity and the abstractions presented to you are sometimes less than perfect (and suddenly you can see all the wires, or it blows up)
[12:04] <bakert> (metaphorically speaking)
[12:05] <dell500> how do you kill a process in console? sys guard isn't working
[12:05] <bakert> But yeah, when you can't login because some permission is wrong on some X-related file in your home dir  and you have no idea what any of that means then it can be annoying.
[12:05] <artis> erusul, it would be nice if you provided an argument along saying that gpl was more free. reading the licence does make me conclude otherwise. not only that, but it is a generally accepted to be so.
[12:05] <bakert> erUSUL, i agree about licenses but vi(m) rules forever.  (spaces not tabs.)
[12:05] <cdubya> Nameless`, http://www.debiansec.com/linux/papers/chrooting.html
[12:06] <artis> nvi is the only true vi.
[12:06] <artis> :-)
[12:07] <high-freq> anyone knwo the patch command in terminal?
[12:07] <dell500> type in patch -h
[12:07] <high-freq> i got a hostap-kernel-2.6.16.patch file and i dunno how to ???????
[12:07] <ahmad> WHy doesnt fakeroot work on my system terminal?
[12:07] <ahmad> it says bash: fakeroot: command not found
[12:08] <cdubya> ahmad, do you have it installed?
[12:08] <tritium> ahmad: did you install it?
[12:08] <ketsugi> ahmad: sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[12:08] <cdubya> sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[12:08] <ahmad> i need to put
[12:08] <ahmad> oh ok
[12:08] <ahmad> thanks'
[12:08] <facugaich> Where can I put some commands to be run at boot?
[12:09] <Nameless`> cdubya checking checking
[12:09] <Nameless`> now stumbled at a new issue lol
[12:09] <cdubya> Nameless`, yeah, it looks a bit trickier than it seems
[12:09] <ahmad> LOL! Now im gettin one called make-jpkg not found?
[12:09] <Jowi> facugaich: /etc/init.d/ with symlinks to /etc/rc2.d/
[12:09] <erUSUL> artis: look at apple. apple (and m$) had taken (stolen) bsd code making it propietary as the license permits. the modifications both companies had make to the code will never revert to the comunity we loose. with gpl code all the work that ibm, hp, etc have done to make linux better comes back to us
[12:10] <cdubya> ahmad, what are you trying to do? build java?
[12:10] <Nameless`> brb
[12:10] <Nameless`> getting something to drink
[12:10] <tritium> facugaich: you can use update-rc.d to install scripts.  See the manpage
[12:10] <artis> erusul, this is not the view of people who choose to distribute their code under bsd - they give it away freely. for both comercial and non comercial use.
[12:11] <artis> and in this sense the bsd licence indeed is more free than gpl.
[12:11] <tritium> Could we please move the license discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:11] <HellDragon`> hey
[12:11] <artis> yes, please.
[12:11] <Jimmey__> How can I use /dev/hda3 as my /home/?
[12:11] <artis> as long as you do accept the obvious facts :)
[12:11] <ahmad> cdubya can you help em?
[12:11] <ahmad> i need make-jpkg
[12:11] <Jowi> Jimmey__: set it up in /etc/fstab
[12:12] <tritium> ahmad: it's in java-package
[12:12] <ahmad> oh so do the syoptic thingy/
[12:12] <grogoreo> hi
[12:12] <Nameless`> Jimmey__ edit the adduser
[12:12] <HellDragon`> hi grogoreo
[12:12] <Nameless`> its easy
[12:12] <HellDragon`> its mister clean
[12:12] <netstalker> Hi punks
[12:13] <grogoreo> when I try to delete certain files from my mp3 player's hard drive it goes to a read-only file system. The file system is FAT and fsck comes up with errors that won't go away. Any ideas?
[12:13] <HellDragon`> format it in FAT32
[12:13] <HellDragon`> SMALL16 doesnt work
[12:13] <Jowi> Jimmey__: example: /dev/hda6       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2 (that is system wide, Nameless` solution for just a few users)
[12:13] <Drac|Mac> I've noticed that with several very different computers and very different harddrives that Ubuntu, using reiserfs, tends to make a drive randomly reset and spin back up. Has anyone else experienced this? It doesn't seem to really affect that actual system, apart from a brief second of lag on occasion.
[12:13] <grogoreo> HellDragon`, I don't want to get into that as I don't want to lose an OS specific files
[12:13] <HellDragon`> omg u b !
[12:14] <Nullified> Guys how do i run Soundjuicer as root
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> grogoreo,  copy any suspect files over.. format.. copy them back
[12:14] <Drac|Mac> This has never happened to me in other distros.
[12:14] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: using dapper or breezy?
[12:14] <Drac|Mac> Jowi: Breezy only. I have a number of Dapper systems that don't have this problem.
[12:14] <ahmad> tritum what you mean java package
[12:15] <ahmad> it says command not foudn i just went to synoptic and installed everyhtign java related
[12:16] <netstalker> any one have any idea how to fix this, I installed a new sound card "Soundblaster X-Fi and now have NO sound !
[12:17] <grogoreo> I've sorted it, I had to run: dosfsck -r
[12:17] <user_> hello
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> netstalker,  Im not even sure if that card has any linux support yet.
[12:17] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: have a look in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf under "hard drive behaviour settings". maybe there is a power-saving setting there that is messing it up (for example, a 2 second time out before the HDD spins down instead of a more sane setting)
[12:17] <Nullified> Guys how do i start sound juicer from the Terminal????
[12:17] <user_> where can i download w32codecs??
[12:17] <netstalker> ahhh thanks Dr will check that
[12:17] <Jowi> !w32codecs
[12:17] <artis> aigarius, hi.
[12:18] <Drac|Mac> Jowi: Alright. I'll take a look.
[12:18] <Morimando> Hey there. How do I tell Ubuntu to use ISO 8859-1 as standard instead of UTF8?
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> netstalker,  that card has only been out a short while. Creative has great cards.. but linux support for them is often lacking.  (or slow in comming)
[12:18] <artis> aigarius, how's the life abroud so far?
[12:18] <artis> s/abroud/abroad
[12:18] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, I don't have laptop mode installed.
[12:18] <user_> !win32codecs
[12:18] <ubotu> I guess win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:18] <netstalker> Its ok I LOVE ubuntu so I will wait ; )
[12:18] <aigarius> artis, hi. is quite nice. I am in Mexico at Debconf6 at the moment
[12:19] <mjr> Morimando, usually a bad idea. Is there something specific you want to use latin1?
[12:19] <Morimando> I have standard in kernel  "iso8859-1" but i don't know if that is the correct "name" for the kernel to recognize what i want
[12:19] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: well, that counts that out at least :) so an acpi setting? where are those located again... hmm...
[12:19] <artis> aigarius, yeah, i've been following your blog.
[12:19] <seb_> need help with a digital camera not supported by gtkam
[12:19] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, I could go through xscreensaver's GUI. :P
[12:20] <Morimando> a) in putty i have no umlauts unless i switch to UTF8 b) the website we moved there had unfortunately written the umlauts in clear text instead of &ooum; etc, so the website is a little weird now
[12:20] <seb_> sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /mnt/digicam--- tells me to specify type!?
[12:20] <Nullified> Guys how do i start sound juicer from the Terminal????
[12:20] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, not a sign of that being in xscreensaver's thing. Anywhere else I can check?
[12:20] <user_> the codecs that i downloaded lust day was a deb package
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  so dont use 'auto' use the actual filesystem type
[12:20] <Morimando> So well before i have to change ALL the umlauts in the whole webpage, i want to change the localization
[12:21] <seb_> how do I know wht the filesystem is Dr_Willis ?
[12:21] <artis> btw, i stil have your glob laying around my house somewhere, aigarius.
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  i would guess vfat
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  or 'fat'
[12:21] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: /etc/acpi something.... but I honestly thought it was the laptop-mode causing this (had that prob two weeks ago)
[12:21] <aigarius> artis, glob?
[12:21] <user_> !w32codecs
[12:22] <seb_> Dr_Willis ok, tells me the mount point does not exist
[12:22] <netstalker> !w32codecs
[12:22] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, you may find that it wasn't that for you, either. :P
[12:22] <artis> aigarius, toby jug that is.
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  so.... create the mount point.. :P like its telling ya.
[12:22] <mjr> Morimando, umm, just either convert the webpages with recode or tell apache (or whatever) that those pages in question are latin-1 (eg. in the directory where they are, echo "AddDefaultCharSet iso-8859-1" > .htaccess
[12:22] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: laptop-mode.conf solved it for me, but it might be another cause for you it seems. sorry if I'm a bit vague
[12:22] <seb_> Dr_Willis how do i do that??
[12:23] <mjr> Morimando, changing the whole system over to an inferior charset for a couple of webpages is kinda overkill
[12:23] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, not a problem.
[12:23] <funkja> Hey guys, I have a problem. I "accidently" deleted my hostname out of my hosts file, and now I cannot do a sudo to fix it. I get this error: "sudo: unable to lookup ciryatan via gethostname()". It seems the solution to fix this is to add ciryatan into hosts but I cannot becuase i have to sudo to do that... Solutions?
[12:23] <Drac|Mac> brb
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  sudo mkdir /path/to/dir     - you MAY want to spend an hr or 2 reading a few bash tutorials... and soon...
[12:24] <mjr> Morimando, (oops, AddDefaultCharset, lowercase s)
[12:24] <Morimando> hm but when these people add new content to their website (which they do using frontpage ><), the umlauts are gonna be wrong again i guess. telling apache the format sounds better
[12:24] <Arrick> anyone familiar with windows/apache2? please help me out anyone? the registry found it in C:\Program Files\Apache Group\Apache2\bin\Apache2        What would be the command to restart it?
[12:24] <aigarius> artis, I googled it and I still have no clue what you are talking about :)
[12:25] <artis> aigarius, aah, well the glaas! the glaas you were drinking your kvass from!
[12:25] <artis> s/glas/glass
[12:25] <Morimando> pal says he can't get apache to read the .htaccess or something like that, and has to use vhosts (????????)
[12:25] <funkja> Arrick: you should have a feather in your status bar... right click and restart
[12:26] <Arrick> what status bar
[12:26] <funkja> bottom right hand corner of the screen
[12:26] <aigarius> artis, aah, I see. well maybe we will meet some time when I come back
[12:26] <Arrick> ok, found it, says no services installed for some reason
[12:26] <Morimando> what can possibly go wrong that apache doesn't read the htaccess?
[12:27] <artis> aigarius, how's the debconf anyways?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Morimando,  the config for apache is most lilely telling it to ignroe that file.. or the perms are wrong on the file.
[12:27] <cafuego> Morimando: incorrect permission, AccessFileName not configured, AllowOverride not set
[12:27] <Arrick> funkja, any more help on this?
[12:28] <aigarius> artis, Debconf is loads of fun as always. The talks have started today, but not as planned. However one can always spend some extra time in the pool :)
[12:28] <Morimando> hm well, i will try the Charset idea tomorrow, for now i'll leave it. Don't change something vital as long as the server is up and running ;)
[12:28] <mirak> when you run mount command, is there a way to make the mount.FILESYSTEM be run as a particular user ?
[12:28] <Morimando> at least not via ssh
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  you diont run a file system.. you can mount stuff as owned by specific users..
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  depends on the file system as to what options it has.
[12:30] <Jimmey__> I've just installed kubuntu-desktop over a Dapper install - and I've actually got things to work. I'm such a bad-ass. And KDE's nicer than I gave it credit for.
[12:30] <artis> ah well, i joined here by an accident really. so, wish you the very best (especially with making that last GPL draft even more boring to read). bye.
[12:30] <mirak> Dr_Willis: that Fuse
[12:30] <Jimmey__> *dapper server install
[12:30] <funkja>  Hey guys, I have a problem. I "accidently" deleted my hostname out of my hosts file, and now I cannot do a sudo to fix it. I get this error: "sudo: unable to lookup ciryatan via gethostname()". It seems the solution to fix this is to add ciryatan into hosts but I cannot becuase i have to sudo to do that... Solutions?
[12:30] <mirak> Dr_Willis: that's fuse. in the case of use you really run the file system since the file system is in userspace
[12:31] <Weiss> funkja: boot with someting like your installation CD, drop to a shell, then edit the file
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> mirak,  ok.. refering to fuse.. yea ive read about that.. never used it.. :P never seen a need for it. yet.
[12:31] <funkja> okay, thanks Weiss
[12:31] <Jowi> funkja: rescue mode
[12:33] <Nameless`> linux is a bitch :/
[12:33] <Nameless`> i so dont get this :(
[12:33] <Jimmey__> Nameless, what's the problem?
[12:34] <Nameless`> the logic behind it :(
[12:34] <Nameless`> i'm trying to create a user that can't escape his homedir
[12:34] <asdx> the normal ubuntu distribution does server too?
[12:34] <Flannel> asdx: yep.
[12:34] <asdx> cool
[12:34] <Nameless`> i do adduser > convert user > i login via ftp and still can escape > i commit > now i can't escape anymore
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> egads - not more 'chrooting users to their home dirs...' :P
[12:34] <Flannel> asdx: and, you can convert ubuntu flavor X to ubuntu flavor Y with relative easy.
[12:34] <Flannel> erm, ease even.
[12:34] <asdx> it has an option for install as a server when i boot the disc right?
[12:34] <NickGarvey> asdx: yes
[12:35] <asdx> yey
[12:35] <asdx> k
[12:35] <Jimmey__> asdx, you type "server" at the boot prompt for a 5.10 install
[12:35] <asdx> k
[12:35] <pundai> so anyone know of a dapper bug where you can't log back in after you sleep/resume
[12:36] <Orion_1> hi
[12:36] <Flannel> pundai: search at launchpad
[12:36] <blank_> how do i enter special characters into things in ubuntu, in windows I did ALT+number
[12:36] <blank_> for example, ALT+165
[12:37] <HymnToLife> blank_> Ctrl+Shift+code
[12:37] <Morimando> Hehe server is back up and it's now running Ubuntu w/ a 2.6.16-cks10 Kernel :)
[12:37] <HymnToLife> the code is to be typed in hexadecimal
[12:37] <Orion_1> i have intel motherboard which has a built-in vga .. i ented to buy a new video card.. what do u recommend which is supprted nicely with ubuntu ?
[12:37] <blank_> thanks HymnToLife
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Orion_1,  anything by nvidia - :P nothing by ati.
[12:37] <blank_> in hex? wow...okay
[12:37] <HymnToLife> blank_> in GNOME you can have an applet on a panel to type them with one click
[12:38] <Jowi> Orion_1: depends if you got a pci, agp, or pci-e port on that card
[12:38] <Morimando> Yeah nvidia is the best choice
[12:38] <blank_> HymnToLife, yeah i know, that's cheap though, takes a while, i prefer typing the key, guess in windows it's easier
[12:38] <Orion_1> i have agp
[12:38] <TheFuzzball> who knows what groups you need to be in to access pmount?
[12:38] <Jowi> Orion_1: nvidia :)
[12:38] <HymnToLife> blank_> hex is technically easier than decimal, 2 digits insead of 4 :p
[12:38] <Orion_1> does the agp video card, override the built-in vga
[12:38] <Morimando> grab a GeForce 6600 GT, that card's okay for most things and not too expensive
[12:39] <Jowi> Orion_1: you set that up in BIOS
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> yea 6600 is good value
[12:39] <Orion_1> i mean will the ubuntu use my video card rather than the built in
[12:39] <Orion_1> aha
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Orion_1,  disable the onboard in the bios.
[12:39] <Morimando> you have to disable the onboard in bios
[12:39] <Morimando> ^
[12:39] <Orion_1> can i disable the sound built in too?
[12:39] <Orion_1> by bios
[12:40] <Orion_1> I will ask them to do so
[12:40] <Orion_1> tech
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> yes - that should also be disabled in the bios if yiou have a 2nd sound card
[12:40] <Orion_1> technicians
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> learn how to do it youirself. :P its a 15 sec job.
[12:40] <Orion_1> ok
[12:40] <blank_>
[12:40] <blank_> what's up with that
[12:40] <Orion_1> thats a good advice and will learn
[12:40] <TheFuzzball> who knows what groups you need to be in to access pmount?
[12:41] <blank_> decimal key I want in ascii is 164, in hex it's 0xA4, and when I type that, it's like,
[12:41] <Orion_1> so u recommend :  GeForce 6600 GT
[12:41] <Morimando> sheesh there went my xchat ^
[12:41] <Orion_1> is 128 MB GeForce ok for 3d games ?
[12:41] <Morimando> Well depends on the graphic chip
[12:42] <Morimando> And the game in question
[12:42] <Orion_1> knowing that i have 512 MB RAM ab=nd will add a 1 GB more RAM
[12:42] <mrbayHU> hello
[12:42] <Orion_1> if i get  GeForce 6600 GT  ?
[12:42] <seb_> can anyone help mount a usb camera not supported by gtkam?
[12:42] <Blissex> Orion_1: 128MB GF5 and up pretty good.
[12:42] <Morimando> the 128MB version works fine for me
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Orion_1,  you mean you will have a 1.5 gb of ram on the system?
[12:42] <Blissex> Orion_1: how much money you got for a video card?
[12:43] <Orion_1> willis yes
[12:43] <Arrick> Dr_Willis, you good with apache2 on windows server?
[12:43] <mrbayHU> i'm trying to update with apt-get.. if i enter install gnome, it removes the xorg and xserver packages. if i install xorg and xserver packages, it removes gnome. what can i do?:)
[12:43] <mada> anyone with any success running airport extreme wifi cards under dapper flight 6 or 7?
[12:43] <Blissex> Orion_1: Quake4 will require almost a 1GB.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Arrick,  i know enugh to NOT even attempt to run apache on windows. :P
[12:43] <Orion_1> Blissex : 40-50 $
[12:43] <Arrick> huh?
[12:43] <Arrick> I though apache was run on windows all the time
[12:43] <Blissex> mrbayHU: leave things as they are as obviously both groups of packages don't have complete dependencies yet.
[12:43] <gaby> #ubuntu.es
[12:44] <Orion_1> the important thing is to be supported by ubuntu
[12:44] <mada> Arrick: it is
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Arrick,  ive only toyed with apache. :) so i know dideel about the thing.
[12:44] <Blissex> Orion_1: $40-50 is a bit low for a 3D card.
[12:44] <Arrick> ok
[12:44] <seb_>  sudo patch-<IP_ADDRESS> #make menuconfig
[12:44] <seb_>  --- whats wrong with this???
[12:44] <TheFuzzball> who knows what groups you need to be in to access pmount?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  whats that line supposed to even do?
[12:44] <Orion_1> Blissex: I found a 128 MB Geforce around this price
[12:44] <mrbayHU> but they have already killed each other.. :(
[12:44] <gaby> hola
[12:44] <Blissex> Orion_1: if you cant get it, try to buy a used GF4 4[246] 00 (no other GF4)
[12:44] <Morimando> sudo patch -p1 < patch-<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <tritium> seb_: you likely need libncurses5-dev
[12:45] <seb_> Dr_Willis http://www.brothas.net/~nugator/FujiFinePixandLinux.html
[12:45] <Morimando> and then sudo make menuconfig
[12:45] <Blissex> Orion_1: a GF new for that price is going to be really crap.
[12:45] <Orion_1> ok how about the drivers for nVidia geforce.. is it easy to configure
[12:45] <duckdown> `Hey guys..  I'm running dapper, and quite often now after system-updates its been requesting a reboot in the top of my screen.  What is constantly requiring reboots, and how neccessary are they?
[12:45] <Flannel> TheFuzzball: google says plugdev
[12:45] <Blissex> Orion_1: the NVIDIA driver is OKish, and anyhow is the only one that really delivers accel.
[12:45] <scorchsaber> How would I resize my linux partition? I want to make room for 2 FAT32 partitions (One for FreeDOS, and the other as a shared partition for all the OSes to write to).
[12:46] <mrbayHU> Blissex, and what can i do if they have already removed each other?:(
[12:46] <Blissex> Orion_1: for a GF, make sure it is a GF4, GF5 or GF6, and most importantly that the memory is at least 128 bit WIDE.
[12:46] <seb_> Dr_Willis cant find that package
[12:46] <Blissex> mrbayHU: cry :-)
[12:46] <Orion_1> thanx will make sure
[12:46] <seb_> still cant mount camera
[12:46] <Morimando> scorchsaber, use gparted
[12:46] <mrbayHU> thanks :)
[12:46] <Orion_1> I am taking notes :)
[12:46] <Blissex> scorchsaber: dont do that without backups
[12:46] <Blissex> mrbayHU: well, you can use 'apt-get' or 'aptitude' to reinstall
[12:47] <scorchsaber> Blissex: How would I backup? I have no drive to write to, and the CDR-write stuff doesn't work
[12:47] <Blissex> scorchsaber: the best way is to use a liveCD, like Knoppix or Gnoppix, and do the resizing from the LiveCD
[12:47] <scorchsaber> Gotcha
[12:47] <mrbayHU> yeah, i'm using it.. but as i said, if i apt-get install gnome, it removes the xorg packs. when i do the same to xorg, it removes the gnome packs.. :)
[12:47] <Blissex> scorchsaber: if you are mad not to have a backup drive, you can be extra super mad and do a resize without a backup too.
[12:47] <scorchsaber> I'll be asking questions then. By the way, is gparted already on the live CD?
[12:47] <Orion_1> thanx all see u
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  im thinking you are very confused..  sudo patch-<IP_ADDRESS> #make menuconfig   - SEEMS to me to be  a command.. then the path (from thebash shell) then a #, then anotehr command.. which is way messed up
[12:47] <Blissex> mrbayHU: then leave it alone.
[12:48] <mandavi_> hi, i installed apache2, but when i want to open awstats.pl firefox asks me with what application do i want to open it... - what am i doing wrong?
[12:48] <scorchsaber> by Live CD, I mean the Ubuntu live CD
[12:48] <xbox_guru2> how do  install linux drivers onto my computer
[12:48] <tritium> xbox_guru2: which ones?
[12:48] <Morimando> Dr_Willis, wouldn't the syntax be patch -p1 < patch-<IP_ADDRESS> rather than the one posted?
[12:48] <seb_> Dr_Willis I dont understand?
[12:48] <scorchsaber> is gparted on the ubuntu live CD?
[12:48] <xbox_guru2> I have a linux driver for my network adapter
[12:48] <xbox_guru2> not windows, linux
[12:49] <TheFuzzball> I don't have a group called plugdev
[12:49] <scorchsaber> Is there gparted on the liveCD?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  im thinking you are miss-reading the docs/instructions.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Morimando,  if he evenhas the kernel source and stuff installed.
[12:49] <scorchsaber> it's a simple question.
[12:49] <xbox_guru> tritium: they are linux drivers not windows drivers
[12:50] <seb_> Dr_Willis Is there a way I can mount it??
[12:50] <Morimando> Dr_Willis, right... i thought he had
[12:50] <xbox_guru> tritium: what do I have to run from the terminal
[12:50] <Drac|Mac> What... what the hell?! My firefox start page just changed to arizona.edu! How?! The only site I've been to since it hadn't changed was a no-ip.com redirect...
[12:50] <scorchsaber> Is there gparted on the Ubuntu Live CD?
[12:50] <selinium> any ideas where the local panel properties are stored?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  may want to check the ubuntu wiki/forums and see if anyone else has got it working.. and writtten some better docs on it.
[12:51] <tritium> xbox_guru: are you sure ubuntu doesn't support it already?
[12:51] <TheFuzzball> Flannel, how do I create a group called plugdev?
[12:51] <xbox_guru> tritium: i'll try unplugging it and pluging it back in
[12:51] <Flannel> TheFuzzball: does one not already exist?
[12:51] <Jowi> xbox_guru: what are you trying to connect?
[12:51] <xbox_guru> its a netgear wg111v2 usb adapter
[12:51] <tritium> xbox_guru: also look at output of dmesg and lspci
[12:51] <TheFuzzball> no
[12:52] <scorchsaber> ah, whatever. I'll just use gparted from this anyway
[12:52] <Jowi> xbox_guru: have you looked at the wifi wiki?
[12:52] <facugaich> How can I stop Gnome?
[12:52] <Jowi> !wireles
[12:52] <ubotu> Jowi: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:52] <seb_> Dr_Willis sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera -t vfat -o umask=000 --- i get an error msg that says sda1 not bloc??
[12:52] <xbox_guru> no
[12:52] <Jowi> !wireless
[12:52] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:52] <scorchsaber> no biggie..unless linux gets trashed
[12:52] <Morimando> scorchsaber, if the live cd doesn't have gparted, grab a knoppix cd and use kparted
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  you sure the camera is even on sda1 ? it maybe sdb1 or similer. do a 'sudo fdisk -l' and see where its at.
[12:52] <Jowi> xbox_guru: have a look at the pages ubotu spat out
[12:53] <seb_> Dr_Willis I searched google but Ijust found the page i posted earlier
[12:53] <Drac|Mac> Even stranger! Firefox's settings show that the start page HASN'T changed!
[12:53] <scorchsaber> Morimando, I have no way to burn a CD
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  that page you posted is WAY old..
[12:53] <TheFuzzball> Flannel, what would it's home dir be?
[12:53] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: i thought of something, if it isn't sorted yet. there is also possibility to install "gnome-power-manager" and set HDD timeouts in there.
[12:53] <Morimando> scorchsaber, sheesh..
[12:53] <scorchsaber> sorry man
[12:53] <xbox_guru> Jowi: I have the LINUX driver for the card, all I need to know how to do is install it.
[12:53] <scorchsaber> I just hope I don't lose my programming in the process--wait
[12:53] <Morimando> scorchsaber, well then... you got to be brave *grin*
[12:53] <scorchsaber> How do I mount a floppy?
[12:54] <scorchsaber> I might be able to save the code
[12:54] <Morimando> scorchsaber, mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[12:54] <seb_> Dr_Willis It doesnt appear listed
[12:54] <scorchsaber> thanks morimando
[12:54] <mrbayHU> but why is gdm removing xorg?
[12:54] <Jowi> xbox_guru: you intend to use ndiswrapper?
[12:54] <xbox_guru> jowi: no, I have a linux driver and don't need to use ndiswrapper
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  check the output of 'dmesg' when you unplug/plugin the device and see if it mentions it.
[12:54] <mrbayHU> i mean, gdm cant run without xorg, then why is gdm removing it?
[12:55] <TheFuzzball> ok, to mount my device I have to run sudo pmount /dev/sda1/, then when I try to view /media/sda1/ it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1_"." how do I fix this?
[12:56] <facugaich> How can I 'shutdown' Gnome?
[12:56] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, add the "user" option in fstab (or users, not sure) if it's fat you may need the option "umask=000" in fstab
[12:56] <seb_> Dr_Willis [4299996.776000]  usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 54
[12:56] <seb_> [4299996.966000]  usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 55
[12:56] <seb_> [4299997.100000]  input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [062a:0000]  on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1
[12:57] <Jowi> xbox_guru: i don't have a netgear card, so I can only give you an advice and not a full solution.  :P not a camera
[12:57] <jramsey> then alt-f7 to switch back
[12:57] <seb_> Dr_Willis I know!!! but its the cam not the mouse
[12:57] <TheFuzzball> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,unhide,noauto,unmask=000   $
[12:57] <TheFuzzball> like that?
[12:57] <Morimando> lol
[12:57] <scorchsaber> Morimando- It's says it "can't read the superblock"
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  could test out the camera in some of the live cd's and the dapper live cd.
[12:58] <seb_> Dr_Willis could it be that it doesnt detect anything??
[12:58] <Jowi> xbox_guru: but that wiki that ubotu spat out is good.
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  the thing may be really odd and not easially detected.
[12:58] <facugaich> jramsey, no, I want to shut it down and the restart, but not immediatly like it does with "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[12:58] <xbox_guru> jowi: did you say unplug it or plug it in
[12:58] <Morimando> scorchsaber, most likely the filesystem is incorrect then, try -t floppy or -t vfat ..
[12:58] <Nullified> !dma
[12:58] <Morimando> been ages since i last used a floppy
[12:58] <Jowi> xbox_guru: plug it in.
[12:58] <scorchsaber> Morimando- thanks
[12:58] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, that looks correct to me
[12:58] <xbox_guru> jowi: ok brb
[12:58] <Jowi> ubotu: tell xbox_guru about wifi
[12:58] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, but add a comma after uso9660
[12:58] <TheFuzzball> k
[12:59] <seb_> Dr_Willis its a fuji a310 not supported by gtkam
[12:59] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, and with pmount you might want to leave "noauto" out?
[01:00] <TheFuzzball> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660,user,unhide,unmask=000     0    $
[01:00] <TheFuzzball> that look ok?
[01:01] <scorchsaber> How do I use gparted to manipulate the linux partition?
[01:01] <seb_> Dr_Willis is there a way to force mount it or something?
[01:01] <TheFuzzball> err, still not working
[01:01] <scorchsaber> It doesn't give any options--they are all grey
[01:03] <scorchsaber> I don't suppose there is any way to unmount the linux partition while still using linux?
[01:03] <scorchsaber> agh
[01:03] <cafuego> nope
[01:03] <Overand> This is a longshot and is largely unrelated, but does anyone here have the firmware update for the maxtor VA1010610-->VA1010630 SATA drive?  Maxtor sent me the *wrong update*  ... if you do, PLEASE message me.  you can't get it via maxtor.com, and they're closed right now so I can't call.
[01:03] <cafuego> you _can_ mount ot read-only, though... but it's best to be in single-user mode.
[01:03] <s|k> hi
[01:04] <Garthex> can anyone help me with an error: "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[01:04] <s|k> how can I get my ubuntu computer to see my slackware computer if they're both connected to the same router?
[01:04] <calamari> hi
[01:04] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, still the permission thing?
[01:04] <TheFuzzball> yes
[01:04] <scorchsaber> I need a way to modify the partition from the liveCD--but the liveCD probably doesn't have gparted. IS there any other partition editor that I can use that is included? Does fdisk do what I need to do (Resize linux partition)?
[01:04] <calamari> I'm trying to print with the ttf-devanagari-fonts Samanata font.  The latin character portion looks great on screen, but parts of the letters are cut off when printed, even with PDF.  Any ideas?
[01:04] <Morimando> have you read/write access to the folder you mount the disk to?
[01:04] <cafuego> scorchsaber: The LiveCD does have a partition editor
[01:05] <Morimando> (check with the disk unmounted)
[01:05] <Flannel> scorchsaber: liveCD does have gparted
[01:05] <scorchsaber> cafuego: I asked, and nobody answered. Thank you for answering the 7th time I asked
[01:05] <scorchsaber> I'm off to resize
[01:05] <scorchsaber> thank you all
[01:05] <Overand> s|k: what do you mean by 'see' ?
[01:05] <cafuego> scorchsaber: Soemtimes people don't know, somtimes they're not at the keyboard
[01:05] <[TnJ] Baffo> hi all
[01:06] <s|k> Overand: browse the files of one computer from the other
[01:06] <Overand> s|k: NFS or Samba?
[01:06] <xbox_guru> ok, all I need to know is how to install a linux driver
[01:06] <Overand> either would work
[01:06] <Garthex> can anyone help me with an error: "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[01:06] <Overand> xbox_guru: that's actually not a straightforward thing
[01:06] <[TnJ] Baffo> i have installed ubuntu, it is very good!
[01:06] <Overand> Garthex: where are you getting that error?
[01:06] <squidgy> Garthex:  what command did you try to sudo?
[01:06] <Garthex> just running sudo in general
[01:06] <s|k> Overand: are those programs?
[01:06] <Overand> s|k: sort of.  they're networking protocols
[01:06] <Garthex> in "etc/hosts" it only lists <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[01:06] <Garthex> i think that may be the problem
[01:07] <s|k> Overand: how do I use them?
[01:07] <Morimando> Garthex, is the line "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu" in /etc/hosts ?
[01:07] <McNutella> uh oh, its me :D
[01:07] <Garthex> without the ubuntu part
[01:07] <xbox_guru> overand: ok, its a wireless usb network adapter
[01:07] <Morimando> Garthex, add ubuntu
[01:07] <Garthex> i can't
[01:07] <McNutella> whats the command to see what users are added on my ubuntu please
[01:07] <r0xoR> are the HPLIP drivers kernel level?
[01:07] <Garthex> i'm not the owner of the file
[01:07] <Overand> s|k: google NFS shares or hit wiki.ubuntu.com and search for NFS
[01:07] <r0xoR> i just bought a new HP printer and i'm reading the HpPrinterHowto on the wiki
[01:07] <xbox_guru> overhand: and I do have a linux driver
[01:07] <s|k> Overand: thanks
[01:07] <Morimando> Garthex, boot a live cd, mount the drive, change the file :)
[01:07] <r0xoR> but my printer model is not in the list and it's not autorecognized
[01:07] <Flannel> Garthex: reboot into safe/recovery mode at grub.
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> Morimando, do you know how to fix this...
[01:07] <Garthex> ok will do thanks
[01:07] <r0xoR> linuxprinting.org says my printer works perfectly with HPLIP
[01:07] <TheFuzzball> Morimando: cause' its quite annoying
[01:08] <Flannel> Garthex: and add your hostname, not necessarily 'ubuntu'
[01:08] <seb_> Is there not a way to mount the camera if its not detected?
[01:08] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, have you checked if you got read/write permission on the folder you mount the drive to?
[01:08] <Garthex> what would my hostname be?
[01:08] <seb_> Nothing turns up by searching google
[01:08] <tritium> seb_: if it's showing up in /dev, you can try pmount
[01:08] <Morimando> Garthex, whatever you named your PC, if you didn't change it, it's most likely ubuntu
[01:09] <Garthex> thanks
[01:09] <r0xoR> i've got hplip installed
[01:09] <r0xoR> hplip and cups are both in my startup services and they're both running
[01:09] <Morimando> on a shell you see root@ubuntu for examplke
[01:09] <Flannel> Garthex: at a terminal it's the stuff after the @
[01:09] <Garthex> k
[01:09] <jramsey> Garthex, it is in ur hosts file
[01:09] <McNutella> and the command to get my ipaddress is ?
[01:09] <xbox_guru> can anyone tell me what I need to do to install my usb wireless adapter's driver. I have a linux driver for it
[01:09] <seb_> tritium can you give me the command line plz?
[01:09] <TheFuzzball> Morimando: yes, I own it
[01:09] <Flannel> jramsey: no, it's not.  his hosts file is hosed.
[01:10] <Archville> Hi.
[01:10] <jramsey> ohhhhh
[01:10] <jramsey> Garthex, my host file has <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost.localdomain	localhost	ubuntu
[01:10] <squidgy> Garthex: you can do a 'uname -a', and it's the second thing listed, after "Linux".
[01:10] <jramsey> and some ip6 stuff that u dont need to start
[01:11] <tritium> seb_: you'd have to know the device name, and then use "pmount <device name here>"
[01:11] <mythica> Hi guys
[01:11] <mythica> I am trying to get my usb quickcam pro 4000 webcam working
[01:11] <Garthex> i made it "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu
[01:11] <mythica> when I run lsusb it shows up
[01:11] <mythica> does that mean its installed and it *should* be working ?
[01:11] <seb_> tritium how do i find out the dev name?
[01:11] <pundai> hey sladen i just updated to dapper and now there is no hibernate option in the logout menu
[01:11] <seb_> tritium its usb if that helps
[01:11] <jramsey> Garthex, <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost.localdomain	localhost	ubuntu
[01:12] <Garthex> yay it works!
[01:12] <Garthex> =D
[01:12] <tritium> seb_: is it listed with lsusb?
[01:12] <jramsey> Garthex, and make sure everyone has R access
[01:12] <abarbaccia> hey all - how do i make a tar archive of all files, including hidden files in a directory?
[01:12] <xbox_guru> can anyone tell me what I need to do to install my usb wireless adapter's driver. I have a linux driver for it
[01:12] <thatfunkymunki> hey guys
[01:13] <Morimando> TheFuzzball, hm.. hmm.. you fixed the comma after iso8859? the folder is yours? try adding "users" to the option list (plural, right) other than that i dunno what to do any more
[01:13] <xbox_guru> what command do I need to run in the terminal
[01:13] <seb_> tritium i see creative labs
[01:13] <McNutella> and the command to get my ip address please
[01:13] <jramsey> xbox_guru, was the driver built for the same version of the kernel?
[01:13] <seb_> tritium i dont know if its the cam
[01:13] <tritium> xbox_guru: you can install build-essential, and then build it (assuming you have source for it)
[01:13] <McNutella> ipcionfig ?
[01:13] <j1p> is there a way to add a program so that it can be run as root? some of my programs say command not found when i run them w/ sudo
[01:13] <thatfunkymunki> how would i go about chmodding my ntfs mount so that my normal user can see it?
[01:13] <tritium> seb_: most likely it is
[01:13] <holycow> McNutella, ifcopnfig
[01:13] <holycow> ifconfig
[01:13] <McNutella> holycow: much thanks
[01:13] <naut> WHat do I need to install to get libXm on breezy?
[01:13] <mythica> can anyone help me with setting up my webcam
[01:13] <seb_> tritium its bus 001 device 090
[01:14] <xbox_guru> jramsey, tritium: I just got ubuntu yesterday, can you speak engligh :p
[01:14] <seb_> tritium does that help ?
[01:14] <jramsey> xbox_guru, where did u get the linux driver?
[01:14] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.
[01:14] <xbox_guru> jramsey: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_hostif.php?hostif=USB&zoek=Show
[01:15] <tritium> xbox_guru: sorry :)
[01:15] <sorush20> hi guys is there any way I can increase the cache size for my java ?
[01:15] <sorush20> java run time environment
[01:15] <tritium> seb_: a bit
[01:15] <Garthex> i'm having another problem where it doesn't recognize my ethernet port, only the "conexant HCF 56k modem (rev 08)" as the ethernet controller
[01:15] <thatfunkymunki> how would i go about chmodding my ntfs mount so that my normal user can see it?
[01:15] <xbox_guru> I got the netgear wg111v2 driver
[01:15] <Nameless`> howto chmod a dir specific so only 1 person can access it?
[01:15] <Sandman> how do I install the java RT   its downloaded already??
[01:15] <seb_> tritium how to I pmount it ?
[01:15] <Nameless`> kinda gah not figuring out the basics :/
[01:16] <Sandman> new to Linux
[01:16] <poningru> !tell Sandman about java
[01:16] <jramsey> xbox_guru, can u check if the driver ends in .ko?
[01:16] <jramsey> i mean the name
[01:16] <poningru> Sandman: did you get that?
[01:16] <sladen> pundai: oh?
[01:17] <thatfunkymunki> nobody knows? :(
[01:17] <Sandman> from a command line?
[01:17] <sladen> pundai: what does  lshal | grep power_management.can_suspend_to_disk  show
[01:17] <tritium> seb_: it's a webcam?  Sorry, I thought it was a digital camera.  You don't want to try to mount it.
[01:17] <xbox_guru> jramsey: well I'm talking to you on a windows computer right now, i did read the text document and it is compatable with my kernel
[01:18] <poningru> Sandman: yes
[01:18] <seb_> tritium not a webcam, its a digicam
[01:18] <poningru> thatfunkymunki: whats wrong?
[01:18] <tritium> seb_: what model?
[01:18] <seb_> fuji a310
[01:18] <thatfunkymunki> i'm trying to mount my NTFS part in a way that my regular user can use/see it
[01:18] <thatfunkymunki> without sudo
[01:18] <poningru> !tell thatfunkymunki about ntfs
[01:18] <seb_> tritium not supported by gtkam
[01:19] <thatfunkymunki> no i know how to mount it
[01:19] <thatfunkymunki> but i can't seem to be able to ls it without sudo'ing
[01:19] <poningru> thatfunkymunki: that page has the instructions
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> thatfunkymunki,  use the 'user' or 'users' option and set the umask in the fstab file - then the user can mount it.
[01:19] <Garthex> i'm having another problem where it doesn't recognize my ethernet port, only the "conexant HCF 56k modem (rev 08)" as the ethernet controller and it also has TI's "PCI1410 PC card cardbus controller" but it won't recognize the internet
[01:19] <tritium> seb_: let me see what I can find out
[01:19] <thatfunkymunki> thanks a bunch guys :)
[01:19] <xbox_guru> jramsey: i'll send you the readme's
[01:20] <thatfunkymunki> i've pretty much figured mostly everything out
[01:20] <thatfunkymunki> except for this little detail lol
[01:20] <jramsey> xbox_guru, ok i will refrain from commenting on the "cough" OS u r using; basically if the driver supports the same kernel as breezy 2.6.12, u ought to be able to load it with sudo insmod dvrname.ko
[01:20] <jramsey> but be forewarned ... if the driver was not built with a proper version of 2.6, it might not work at all
[01:21] <BlueSwirl> How do I get gcc working on ubuntu? I've apt-got and installed, is there anything else I need to do?
[01:21] <meepmeep> wow, an op-less channel, =)
[01:21] <poningru> BlueDevil: you gotta apt-get install build-essential
[01:21] <Flannel> BlueSwirl: once you have build-essentials, you're good to go.
[01:21] <tritium> meepmeep: don't be so sure
[01:21] <visik7> BlueDevil: apt-get install build-essential
[01:22] <meepmeep> hehe
[01:22] <xbox_guru> jramsey: what command do I need to run in the terminal to install it
[01:22] <BlueSwirl> what's this BlueDevil stuff? ;)
[01:22] <Jowi> BlueSwirl: tab-completion nightmare, that's what :)
[01:22] <BlueSwirl> so, i would type "sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc"?
[01:23] <jramsey> xbox_guru, caveat emptor ... and i mean it!!!  sudo insmod drivername.ko
[01:23] <BlueSwirl> Jowi: that's okay then ;-)
[01:23] <mythica> can anyone help me with setting up my webcam
[01:23] <mythica> I am trying to get my usb quickcam pro 4000 webcam working
[01:23] <mythica> when I run lsusb it shows up
[01:23] <sladen> pundai: can you check your swaps partitions:   cat /proc/swaps
[01:23] <thiago_> ls -l
[01:23] <jramsey> xbox_guru, if you don't have a .ko file you must build it from source
[01:23] <DarthClue_> ubunti newbie here...any place that references ubuntu management from a command line only perspective?
[01:24] <xbox_guru> jramsey: it a zip file, it comes with the source but I don't see a .ko file
[01:24] <jramsey> DarthClue_, "management"??  can u be more specific?
[01:25] <meepmeep> if you do a google search for "apt-get howto", you'll get tons of stuff on command line package management, =)
[01:25] <jramsey> xbox_guru, if there is no executable then u need to build it from scratch so boot ur ubuntu and do the following
[01:25] <DarthClue> network configuration, firewall / iptables, package management
[01:25] <jramsey> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:25] <Garthex> is there a way to find out what eth0 driver i need, it uses "PCI1410 PC card cardbus controller" and currently only recognizes "Conexant HCF 56k modem (rev 08)"
[01:25] <BlueSwirl> cheers, jramsey
[01:26] <naut> IS there some way I can find out what package would give me libXm?
[01:26] <jramsey> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:26] <BlueSwirl> jramsey, what's that last command do?
[01:26] <jramsey> xbox_guru, export KERNELDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:27] <jramsey> xbox_guru, make
[01:27] <jramsey> BlueDevil, it installs the linux headers ... the distro may not have all the headers one needs to make a driver
[01:27] <BlueSwirl> shiny
[01:27] <newbuntie> how do I change the settings that I get when running sudo hdparm /dev/hda ?
[01:27] <jramsey> xbox_guru, got it?
[01:27] <seb_> tritium any luck?
[01:28] <tritium> seb_: what I've found seems to indicate that it's not supported
[01:28] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, I forgot to mention that it did this even when the machine was very active...
[01:28] <seb_> tritium theres no way to mount it using pmount like you said?
[01:29] <xbox_guru> jramsey
[01:29] <GTroy> how do you update xorg from terminal?
[01:29] <Garthex> i'm having another problem where it doesn't recognize my ethernet port, only the "conexant HCF 56k modem (rev 08)" as the ethernet controller and it also has TI's "PCI1410 PC card cardbus controller" but it won't recognize the internet
[01:29] <xbox_guru> jramsey: well I got that part, but how do I "make?"
[01:29] <bimberi> !xorg
[01:29] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[01:29] <GTroy> !update
[01:29] <ubotu> GTroy: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:30] <tritium> seb_: only if it looks like a USB storage device
[01:30] <jramsey> xbox_guru, make is a utility that will run the C compiler et. al. and build the driver ... here is a good reference with docs online http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/lkmpg.pdf
[01:30] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: then I have to say I don't really know what's going on
[01:30] <GTroy> my X is broken, and I (think) I need to update xorg before reinstalling nvidia driver
[01:31] <jramsey> afk
[01:31] <seb_> tritium Ive seen on a web site that it can be considered usb mass storage... do you know how I can do that?
[01:31] <green_earz> Garthex: this link may be of help to find out the module name for the ether card > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[01:31] <xbox_guru> jramsey: in the readme it says:
[01:31] <xbox_guru> Build source code and insert modules.
[01:31] <xbox_guru> 1. Unpack source code:
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      tar -zxvf stack.tar.gz
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      tar -zxvf drv.tar.gz
[01:31] <xbox_guru>
[01:31] <xbox_guru> 2. Build and insert modules:
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      cd ieee80211/
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      make clean;make
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      insmod ieee80211_crypt.ko
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      insmod ieee80211_crypt_wep.ko
[01:31] <xbox_guru>      insmod ieee80211_crypt_tkip.ko
[01:31] <tritium> xbox_guru: Sorry, had to quiet you for the long paste
[01:31] <poningru> xbox_guru: dude please use pastebin
[01:31] <poningru> !pastebin
[01:31] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:32] <tritium> xbox_guru: one second, and I'll get you back in business
[01:32] <jramsey> ubotu, tell xbox_guru about pastebin
[01:32] <Garthex> is there a way to find out what eth0 driver i need, it uses "PCI1410 PC card cardbus controller" and currently only recognizes "Conexant HCF 56k modem (rev 08)"
[01:32] <gteppel> I've installed cups and got my laser printer working however it seems like the margins are off, how do I change these?
[01:32] <BlueSwirl> cheers all
[01:32] <GTroy> !xorg
[01:32] <ubotu> from memory, xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[01:33] <tritium> xbox_guru: you're good to go now :)
[01:33] <seb_> tritium how do I type the pmount command to try it out?
[01:33] <jramsey> xbox_guru, so b4 the make enter the export cmd; then make, then do the insmod's but put sudo in front
[01:33] <jramsey> make sure you install build-essentials and the kernel headers first
[01:33] <green_earz> Garthex: again > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[01:33] <McNutella> how can I turn on ssh server so I can log in.. or telnet?
[01:33] <tritium> seb_: pmount <device name>, so you'd have to know which device it is (e.g. /dev/sda)
[01:34] <tritium> McNutella: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:34] <Skwid_> anybody know of something to change the wallpaper with flickr photos ?
[01:34] <McNutella> thanks tritium
[01:34] <seb_> tritium yeah you said to type a command and i did
[01:34] <seb_> tritium how do i know which dev??
[01:34] <tritium> seb_: with which device name?  (that's not a literal command, as you must specify the dev yourself)
[01:34] <Garthex> green_earz, thanks
[01:34] <green_earz> np
[01:35] <tritium> seb_: check the output of dmesg, and look at your logfiles in /var/log
[01:35] <seb_> tritium  Yeah i know but witch device name do i use??
[01:35] <xbox_guru> jramsey: what, remember I'm new to linux
[01:35] <McNutella> tritium: when I install ssh, will it start automatically ?
[01:35] <Flannel> McNutella: yes
[01:35] <Jowi> McNutella: it should
[01:35] <tritium> McNutella: sure will :)
[01:35] <GTroy> how do I activate my wifi card from iwconfig?
[01:36] <GTroy> since X is broken
[01:36] <tritium> McNutella: you can always restart it with "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart"
[01:36] <sladen> GTroy: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid xyz
[01:36] <seb_> tritium  [4302358.028000]  usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 27
[01:36] <seb_> [4302365.694000]  usb 1-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 29
[01:36] <seb_> [4302365.839000]  input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [062a:0000]  on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1
[01:36] <tritium> green_earz: broken?
[01:36] <GTroy> sladen, did that
[01:36] <tritium> seb_: ack, please don't paste here, okay?
[01:36] <McNutella> thanks very much again :)
[01:36] <sladen> GTroy: sudo ifup eth1
[01:36] <jramsey> xbox_guru, go here http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Module-HOWTO and read the HOWTOS
[01:36] <James296> can anyone here help me out and tell me how to install Ubuntu using a wireless internet connection through a wireless router?
[01:36] <tritium> seb_: that's a mouse, unfortunately
[01:36] <GTroy> sladen thans
[01:36] <seb_> tritium  dont know what else i can do im going around in circles
[01:37] <McNutella> tritium: and there is any config UI for it ?
[01:37] <tritium> James296: is the wireless card auto-detected by ubuntu?
[01:37] <Flannel> McNutella: no.
[01:37] <James296> no it is not
[01:37] <tritium> McNutella: no, not that I'm aware of
[01:37] <seb_> tritium  i know you said to try lsusb earlier remember?
[01:37] <seb_> theres no way of knowing?
[01:37] <James296> its a Linksys Wireless G
[01:37] <McNutella> port 22 aint it
[01:37] <seb_> tritium  is it a lost cause?
[01:37] <tritium> seb_: don't know for sure
[01:37] <tritium> James296: you're talking aobut your card or router?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  that camera is ON when you plug it in isent it?
[01:37] <GTroy> ok sladen looks like I'm up
[01:37] <James296> card
[01:38] <James296> it doesnt detect the wireless router
[01:38] <ompaul> seb_, if you have usb things going wrong rebooting can help now and again - but if something is not working then its launchpad.net time first search and second if no result to first report a bug
[01:38] <sladen> James296: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[01:38] <clayg> In Open Office,anyone know if it's possible to have a formula that contains info from another file? Like a document that has total number that is taken from a field in a spreadsheet?
[01:38] <seb_> Dr_Willis i dont understand what you said
[01:39] <sladen> clayg: google for things related to "linking"
[01:39] <seb_> Dr_Willis if you ask whether the camera is turned on, yes it is
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  the power to the camera.. does it need to be 'on'  (try it wuth the camera on and off)
[01:39] <GTroy> do you have to uninstall a nvidia driver before reinstalling it?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  it uses a removeable memory card? or just internal memory? whats the exact brand of camera?
[01:39] <Flannel> McNutella: yeah.  Of course, thats configurable.
[01:39] <seb_> Dr_Willis fuji a310
[01:39] <James296> ok thanks, and also without using live-expert in the installation Ubuntu cant detect my graphics card for some reason
[01:39] <McNutella> Flannel: how would this be done?
[01:40] <seb_> Dr_Willis fuji a310
[01:40] <James296> it comes up with a blue screen that it cant detect a display device...
[01:40] <seb_> Dr_Willis with XD
[01:40] <GTroy> anyone here good with nvidia drivers?
[01:40] <Flannel> McNutella: editing things in /etc/ssh (sshd_config)
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  googling for that - shows a Webcam with that name.. this is a normal digital camera however?
[01:40] <tritium> GTroy: have you used the ubuntu packaged drivers?
[01:40] <McNutella> Flannel: cheers
[01:41] <seb_> Dr_Willis yes a normal digital camera
[01:41] <GTroy> tritium, i need the proprietary ones
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  i am looking at   http://www.bazon.net/mishoo/articles.epl?art_id=759 at the moment
[01:41] <njan> GTroy, ubuntu has the proprietary ones packaged
[01:41] <simp> !paste
[01:41] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:41] <tritium> GTroy: no problem.
[01:41] <tritium> !tell GTroy about nvidia
[01:41] <seb_> Dr_Willis I would like to mount it, but dont know what device it is
[01:41] <GTroy> tritium the newest ones?
[01:42] <njan> Most likely not.
[01:42] <tritium> GTroy: not usually, no
[01:42] <GTroy> tritium, ok
[01:42] <James296> well?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  from what i am reading.. theres experimental modules for it. that only work under the 2.4 kernel..   so you may want to be investing in a different cam.. or use a 7-in-1 media reader and just read the memory cards directly
[01:43] <grout58> whats the best way to do wpa on ubuntu?
[01:43] <tritium> GTroy: if they don't work for you, you can use downloads from nvidia.com, but we don't like supporting them here
[01:43] <tritium> grout58: sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[01:43] <GTroy> :(
[01:43] <GTroy> ok, thanks
[01:43] <tritium> !wpa
[01:43] <ubotu> Enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[01:43] <tritium> grout58: ^^
[01:44] <_antineutron_> can anyone help?
[01:44] <grout58> thanks
[01:44] <josh__> i'm trying to remove a file with spaces
[01:44] <James296> can someone PLZ help me?
[01:44] <jramsey> _antineutron_, lots can help; what's ur question?
[01:44] <njan> GTroy, the version of the nvidia drivers ubuntu package work just fine for me.
[01:44] <josh__> how do i write that in linux syntax
[01:44] <josh__> please
[01:44] <_antineutron_> i am trying to change the ownership fro hda5 partition
[01:44] <tritium> James296: what's up?
[01:44] <njan> GTroy, I've never had any problems with them.
[01:44] <James296> I use an Nvidia Geforce FX 5500 graphics card with 128mb of memory
[01:44] <yusuf9> ? is it safe to use the universe, multiverse, and backport repositories ?
[01:44] <_antineutron_> its fat32,
[01:44] <GTroy> I can't get glx to work with a dual head njan
[01:44] <tritium> yes, yusuf9
[01:44] <Morimando> one more question: I reckon there's 3 users (including me) logged on to my server, must've forgotten to log off 2 of them when i left work. How can i logout the other 2 users via putty?
[01:45] <James296> the Ubuntu installation cant detect it automatically
[01:45] <GTroy> s' why I switched
[01:45] <jramsey> ubotu, tell _antineutron_ about gparted
[01:45] <Vennetar> yeah a file with spaces
[01:45] <tritium> James296: what is it setting up X to use?
[01:45] <Vennetar> how do i remove it
[01:45] <Vennetar> via terminal
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  http://sourceforge.net/projects/fpix/ seems to be more up to date for info on that cam.
[01:45] <_antineutron_> this is the command i am using sudo chown -R fkacani:fkacani hda5
[01:45] <GTroy> njan, is there a way to update xorg through apt-get?
[01:45] <yusuf9> tritium so different packages will not get dependency mangled and also you're confident that these packages aren't 'tampered with' ?
[01:45] <James296> it doesnt say it just says on a big blue screen it cant detect any display devices...
[01:46] <tritium> yusuf9: yes
[01:46] <James296> this is if I have Ubuntu automatically install it
[01:46] <yusuf9> thanks tritium
[01:46] <green_earz> josh__: rm "file name here"    put the file name between "    "
[01:47] <YDSR> #ubuntu-es
[01:47] <YDSR> # ubuntu-es
[01:47] <tritium> James296: what do you mean?
[01:47] <tritium> YDSR: trata "/j #ubuntu-es"
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  all the modules/drivers i seemt o be finding are for that cam in 'webcam mode' none seem to mention the usb-storage features/or propblems.
[01:47] <Vennetar> put it in
[01:47] <Vennetar> " "
[01:48] <YDSR> #ubuntu-es"
[01:48] <Morimando> nobody knows how i can logoff the other users connected to my server?
[01:48] <tritium> Morimando: how are they logged on?
[01:48] <yusuf9> Morimando depends if they're supposed to be logged in :  )
[01:48] <seb_> Dr_Willis ok, well thanks anyway. I think well have to get an XD card reader and try to transfer the photos that way
[01:48] <Vennetar> i try sudo rm "file name" no dice
[01:49] <seb_> Dr_Willis Its cheaper than buying another cam anyway
[01:49] <Morimando> tritium, i think locally, must've forgot to log out when i left
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  Ghpoto homepage mentions the '330' version of that cam as working.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> seb_,  could have it pluged in as ya boot up - some usb devices are pick that way. and need to be in from the start,
[01:50] <seb_> Dr_Willis yeah, 330 works with gtkam too, ill try rebooting...
[01:50] <tritium> Morimando: you can kill their shell
[01:50] <yusuf9> Morimando kill the pid by sending a hangup signal
[01:50] <ozzloy> does the next version of ubuntu improve the firefox sound issue?
[01:50] <Morimando> hm sounds good :)
[01:50] <sstchur> I've got Windows XP running under VMware, and I'm wondering what the best way to get internet access in XP is?  I'm using wireless in my Xubuntu host system.
[01:51] <YDSR> proceso hijo termino con estado 1???
[01:51] <YDSR> q significa?
[01:51] <NickGarvey> !es
[01:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:51] <yusuf9> when you kill a login shell , all sub-process' die
[01:51] <RandolphCarter> unless they're screens, which are magical
[01:52] <_harm> how do u spell koffie?
[01:52] <Morimando> Where can i see on which terminal they are logged on?
[01:52] <_harm> caffee?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> the screen pixies take care of screen :P
[01:52] <tritium> YDSR: not a big deal.   A child process was killed.
[01:52] <yusuf9> well you know the username right?
[01:52] <RandolphCarter> Morimando: 'w' might tell you
[01:52] <Morimando> yes i do
[01:52] <Morimando> w?
[01:52] <yusuf9>  ps -fu username
[01:52] <RandolphCarter> yeah, the command 'w'
[01:52] <RandolphCarter> tells you about login sessions :)
[01:52] <yusuf9> kill -HUP 'pidhere'
[01:53] <YDSR> y no podre hacer mas nada?
[01:53] <Flannel> !es
[01:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:53] <yusuf9> man w ; man who ; man kill ; man login ;
[01:53] <YDSR> and now?
[01:54] <Morimando> hmz would be easier just logging them off somehow
[01:54] <yusuf9> ok peace to all - thanks for your help
[01:54] <YDSR> tritium and now???
[01:55] <blanky> how can I get KDE 3.5 on ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:55] <tritium> YDSR: what was the process?
[01:56] <crazy_penguin> bye. Good night
[01:56] <YDSR> actualization de ubuntu
[01:57] <YDSR> and Synaptic pack
[01:58] <tritium> YDSR: it's hard to tell what happened there.  Can you please logout/login
[01:58] <needlez> can someone please in a step by step process help me get the new firefox running?
[01:59] <ompaul> !tell needlez about ff1.5
[01:59] <ompaul> needlez, read the note from the bot
[01:59] <needlez> will do, thank you :)
[02:00] <YDSR> ok.. thanks... see ya
[02:01] <squidgy> !tell squidgy about ff1.5
[02:02] <Bilange> squidgy: by the way, you can also just say "ff1.5" in private with ubotu, it will make the same result
[02:02] <sorcre> Hello, if I download Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Flight 7 can I upgrade it with apt when a never version comes out? or will I have to re-install ubuntu?
[02:03] <Bilange> sorcre: you can just upgrade with apt, sure
[02:03] <HymnToLife> sorcre> yes you can
[02:03] <snowfaked> anyone knows a extension for firefox that i could use to 'blog urls'? for example if i see interesting url i could send it to the list on my server?
[02:03] <Bilange> actually, once in a while sometimes you should see an icon in the tray saying that theres some updates available, once in a while
[02:03] <snowfaked> there's plugin that syncrhonizes bookmarks with ftp but i don't want to share all of my bookmarks with everyone else
[02:04] <sorcre> Thanks. Hmmm, 1 last thing. Is the 64 bit version of Ubuntu worth the trouble? (if there is any... 64 bit FreeBSD was hell)
[02:04] <zithowa> how do I get a list of listening ports?
[02:04] <snowfaked> lsof -i |grep LISTEN
[02:04] <zithowa> snowfaked: thanks
[02:04] <awesometaylor> hey guys how can i edit my gnome menus?
[02:05] <Blippe> alacarte!!!
[02:05] <awesometaylor> thank you
[02:07] <pyrotic> Ok, I have come prepaired with Terminal open and Error posted in Pastebin!.. Anybody prepaired to help me? :) -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14038 --
[02:07] <ompaul> sociopath, question for your question, desktop or server?
[02:07] <grout_> anyone know when dapper will come out?
[02:07] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:07] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:08] <Bilange> grout_: 1st of june :)
[02:08] <squidgy> Hi!  Is there a way to configure gnome terminal settings so that text-mode emacs ('emacs -nw') works with all of the control keys, etc.?
[02:08] <scorchsaber> Whoohoo! Gparted didn't totally destroy my hard drive!
[02:08] <richiefrich> did they fix the bluetooth?
[02:08] <scorchsaber> Thanks for all the help
[02:08] <richiefrich> support?
[02:08] <grout_> what will be some of the biggest new things in dapper?
[02:08] <richiefrich> grout_, what blutooth
[02:08] <anthony_> can anyone help me please
[02:08] <richiefrich> bluetooth
[02:09] <pyrotic> tell grout_ about !dapper
[02:09] <anthony_> i just installed the wine application on my ubuntu gnome computer
[02:09] <ompaul> grout_, long life, shineyness, more l10n stuff and more and more
[02:09] <grout_> wpa?
[02:09] <scorchsaber> !dapper
[02:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:09] <anthony_> and i just installed a program to test out
[02:09] <scorchsaber> huh
[02:09] <anthony_> but i dont hae an icon on my desktop for the application the application ran perfectly fine but how can i access it from now on ?
[02:09] <pyrotic> Anybody read my pastebin and is willing to help?? -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14038 --
[02:09] <ompaul> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[02:09] <jramsey> anthony_, how did u install wine?
[02:09] <richiefrich> anthony_, what app?
[02:09] <Drac|Mac> Check out what I'm working on! http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~thehap/glitch/macscreen.png ( Xfce WM, Xfce panel on the side, hiding, Xfce taskbar on the bottom, also hiding, GNOME-Panel on the top, and Nautilus on the desktop. Altered icons - desktop/nautilus icons soon to come. :D)
[02:09] <snowfaked> anthony_: open nautilus (file browser) and search for the app, and drag it to desktop/panel
[02:10] <anthony_> i installed wine
[02:10] <anthony_> easily
[02:10] <RandolphCarter> nice Drac|Mac
[02:10] <snowfaked> Drac|Mac: but but, you can install mac on your pc! :)
[02:10] <anthony_> on screen instructions
[02:10] <anthony_> snowfaked open up nautilus
[02:10] <pyrotic> I guess nobody can help me... toodaloo once again...
[02:11] <Diego> Can anyone tell me, whats the default root password for Ubuntu?
[02:11] <mjr> Diego, there is none
[02:11] <richiefrich> anthony_,  or u can run --->  wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[02:11] <snowfaked> pyrotic: install drivers
[02:11] <pyrotic> snowfaked already did.
[02:11] <jramsey> Diego, use sudo
[02:11] <richiefrich> anthony_, it's in there
[02:11] <Diego> so its
[02:11] <Diego> root/sudo
[02:11] <snowfaked> pyrotic: doesn't seem to work
[02:11] <zithowa> what do I need to do to set up my machine to know that it's a host of whatever.com?
[02:11] <richiefrich> Diego, sudo -Ha
[02:11] <snowfaked> pyrotic: do you have ati or nvidias graphics card?
[02:11] <richiefrich> Diego, sudo -Hs
[02:11] <pyrotic> diego use sudo, and if it gets annoying, just type sudo -i and then your password, and then when you want to go back to your user, type exit
[02:12] <jramsey> !sudo
[02:12] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:12] <pyrotic> snowfaked nVidia.. and don't have ubotu tell me about nVidia please, I already installed the latest drivers, that I could...
[02:12] <Bilange> tip: you don't have to type "exit" to get out of a shell, just hit ctrl+d
[02:12] <richiefrich> !help
[02:12] <Diego> so I cant log in as root?
[02:12] <richiefrich> Diego, u can
[02:12] <needlez> is there a way to test resolutions, but not actually set them. like in windows, you click on the resolution, and if it works you can keep it, but if it doesnt work (for instance, if your monitor doesnt go that high) it will automatically go back
[02:12] <jramsey> Diego, sudo runs cmds as root
[02:12] <richiefrich> Diego, sudo -Hs  <-- i tyhink
[02:12] <pyrotic> snowfaked To be honest, I got frusterated with it... and just used easyubuntu for the videocard.
[02:12] <snowfaked> pyrotic: ok don't know about nvidia, but clearly you don't have 3d acceleration turned on
[02:12] <HymnToLife> !tell Diego about root
[02:12] <jramsey> Diego, /etc/sudoers if you get tired of entering ur password
[02:13] <pyrotic> snowfaked yes a given, but.. how do I 'turn' it on.. hm?
[02:13] <snowfaked> pyrotic: you sure it installed the drivers? i tried easyubuntu with ati but it couldn't find the driver .deb
[02:13] <Diego> interesting
[02:13] <Diego> Thanks guys
[02:13] <Diego> also, one more quick question, I cant seem to get internet working with Ubuntu
[02:13] <Diego> im on widows rightnow
[02:13] <snowfaked> it installed it otherwise fine but didn't replace the Driver ati with Driver fglrx
[02:13] <Ash-Fox> anthony_ is having a issue getting the appliation's desktop/start menu icons showing up after installing a application under wine. What he wants to know is, how does he refresh the menus/desktop to see the icons? (He's using Gnome) *repost since my ISP rudely disconnected me*
[02:13] <Diego> the Network Connection Setup was the only thing that failed during the isntall
[02:13] <Diego> install*
[02:13] <Bilange> Diego: not by default-- this has one big advantage: hackers wont be able to try to get in via logging in from root, as the account is disabled. furthermore, the hackers have to guess a working/active username too! so this gets really secure in the end, and is worth the price
[02:13] <pyrotic> snowfaked to my knowledge, it did, because before, I was having a different error with WolfET, now I am having this one, which on Windows, this error normally means, you need to update the Driver.. but.. I don't dare trying to udpate the driver and screw things over again.. unless sombody helps me..
[02:14] <high-freq> is there any way to get a compiled kernel to look like ubuntu's fancy gfz on bootup?
[02:14] <snowfaked> pyrotic: i guess if you type glxgears on your console it complains about the same error
[02:14] <pyrotic> snowfaked also, I appologize if I am snappy, I have been dealing with this for quite some tme, and am getting quite agressive at the fact that I've tried almost every possible forum/link/installation and nothing seems to let me play my darned Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory :(
[02:14] <richiefrich> high-freq, what do u want a splash screen
[02:14] <richiefrich> high-freq, or a frambuffer?
[02:14] <Diego> Where can I get some help with my Network Setup?
[02:15] <HymnToLife> diego > here :)
[02:15] <pyrotic> snowfaked Xlib: Extension "glx" missing on display ":0:0".
[02:15] <snowfaked> pyrotic: yep, it looks like the driver isn't installed
[02:15] <Bilange> pyrotic: I missed the problem, and wolfET works fine for me (on dapper)...
[02:15] <pyrotic> snowfaked Herm...
[02:15] <Bilange> so whats going on? glx missing?
[02:15] <pyrotic> Bilange --http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14038--
[02:15] <snowfaked> pyrotic: sorry i can't help you more on that as i don't have experience with desktop linux
[02:16] <pyrotic> snowfaked No problem, thanks anyways.
[02:16] <Diego> the Network Connection Setup was the only thing that failed during the install, and now, I cant get online using Ubuntu
[02:16] <Diego> Im on Windows right now trying to figure it out ;o
[02:16] <snowfaked> Diego: cable/wlan?
[02:16] <Skwid__> hum, where can i change where my swap partition is located ??
[02:16] <pyrotic> Bilange Not completely sure.
[02:16] <HymnToLife> skwid_> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:16] <Bilange> pyrotic: what does 'fglrxinfo' tells you?
[02:16] <pyrotic> Bilange the link displays the error that I am having.
[02:16] <Diego> cable
[02:16] <Bilange> yeah, i just read it
[02:16] <richiefrich> pyrotic, u install the nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel?
[02:16] <pyrotic> Bilange command not found.
[02:17] <pyrotic> richiefrich Uhm... I think so?... any way to check, and if not, how to do so?
[02:17] <snowfaked> Diego: do you know whether ubuntu finds your nic?
[02:17] <Diego> Its quite strange, because it worked the past three times I was trying to isntall, while the install itself failed. But then the fourth and final tiem I fixed the problem, the install worked, but the internet did not
[02:17] <richiefrich> pyrotic, with apt-get
[02:17] <pyrotic> richiefrich "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel" ?
[02:17] <Diego> I really want to get that working so I can get on Ubuntu, and then talk to you all from there ;]  would be much easier
[02:17] <richiefrich> pyrotic, sure
[02:18] <Bilange> looks like theres a necessary package missing, a package that handles 3d/opengl for your card... Im not sure of the package name though, but this contains the "fglrxinfo" i mentionned
[02:18] <richiefrich> pyrotic, then did u change xorg.conf
[02:18] <spikeb> pyrotic: can you pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:18] <anthony_> how come when u install something via wine it always installs to the c drive
[02:18] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  for nvidia ?
[02:18] <Diego> snowfaked, I do not Im sorry
[02:18] <pyrotic> richiefrich nvidia-glx is already the newest version
[02:18] <anthony_> how can i get a shortcut to my desktop
[02:18] <anthony_> for icons
[02:18] <pyrotic> spikeb yes, what is the directory for that again?
[02:18] <spikeb> pyrotic: /etc/X11 i believe
[02:18] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok had u modprobe nvidia
[02:18] <Bilange> pyrotic: its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:19] <snowfaked> Diego: ok when you boot into ubuntu check wheher ubuntu knows about the nic with 'ifconfig eth0'. you should see some output
[02:19] <pyrotic> richiefrich modprobe?
[02:19] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  then did u reboot, nvidia need a reboot
[02:19] <pyrotic> spikeb Ok, one second.
[02:19] <Diego> ah yes
[02:19] <Diego> I did try that
[02:19] <pyrotic> richiefrich yes I rebooted.
[02:19] <Diego> and I did get some output
[02:19] <spikeb> pyrotic: no problem. i see there are like eight other people helping you too :)
[02:19] <snowfaked> Diego: and if you use dhcp you should have "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:19] <richiefrich> pyrotic, to load the module , lsmod | grep nvidia
[02:19] <richiefrich> pyrotic, what u get >?
[02:19] <pyrotic> spikeb yes, its about time though!.. one second.
[02:19] <snowfaked> Diego: after that try ifup eth0
[02:19] <Bilange> since im an ATI user, ill let the nvidia guys help pyrotic :)
[02:20] <Diego> ok
[02:20] <pyrotic> Bilange Ok thanks anyways :)
[02:20] <Diego> Ill try that
[02:20] <richiefrich> Bilange, im an aTi guy too
[02:20] <Diego> If it failes, Ill be right back ;]
[02:20] <snowfaked> Diego: wait a sec
[02:20] <pyrotic> richiefrich nvidia_agp 7964 1, is the first line
[02:20] <richiefrich> Bilange, i just know what others have done
[02:20] <Diego> Yes?
[02:20] <snowfaked> Diego: see whether you get ip with 'ifconfig eth0' again
[02:20] <pyrotic> richiefrich second line is, agpgart 32328 1 nvidia_agp
[02:20] <Bilange> richiefrich: since theres like 4-5 guys helping him, ill just watch :P
[02:20] <Diego> I do not believe I do
[02:20] <pyrotic> spikeb Ok, now to get that for you.
[02:20] <Diego> I will go check
[02:20] <richiefrich> pyrotic, thats the agp  u should have just         nvidia
[02:21] <Diego> The thing is, Im dualbooting with a windows machine
[02:21] <Diego> And the internet only works with Windows
[02:21] <vladuz976> can you use groff to write mathmatical equations?
[02:21] <Diego> So I have to now reboot to try it out on Ubuntu
[02:21] <richiefrich> Bilange, yeah i should too
[02:21] <spikeb> Diego: heh that is gonna be fun
[02:21] <Diego> snowfaked, may I Private Message you?
[02:21] <snowfaked> Diego: nah, lets talk in the channel and someone else might be able to help also
[02:21] <brandon_> what's his problem?
[02:21] <pyrotic> richiefrich hm...
[02:22] <Kr0ntab> sup snowfaked .  how ya doin
[02:22] <pyrotic> spikeb ok posting my xorg.conf
[02:22] <spikeb> ok
[02:22] <Diego> Alright, I just wanted to make sure that I have the things Im supposed to do correct, before I go through the entire REBOOT process and miss a step
[02:22] <Diego> lol
[02:22] <pyrotic> spikeb here you are - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14039
[02:22] <squidgy> Anyone here have any idea about how to configure gnome terminal so that Ctrl+<left> and Ctrl+<right> generate the right codes to control Emacs in terminal mode, i.e., 'emacs -nw'?
[02:22] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: hi, i'm fine. little bit tired already as it's 1:22 am here
[02:22] <ubuntu> hi, anyone know, where to get a driver for a canon printer ip 5000?
[02:22] <paul123> can anyone tell me the command to access to a shared resource in a remote computer?
[02:22] <Diego> sonipo, I am going to check ifconfig eth0
[02:22] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[02:22] <snowfaked> Kr0ntab: luckily i don't have to go to work tomorrow ;)
[02:23] <Kr0ntab> well lucky you.
[02:23] <Diego> If It does not have  an IP
[02:23] <Diego> what do I do then?
[02:23] <pyrotic> Bilange I use to be an ATI User, but linux didn't support my 9800PRO card... and plus it had some faulty issue's with it, so I sent it back... :(.. I miss it already...
[02:23] <spikeb> alright
[02:23] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ini your lsmod
[02:23] <needlez> is there a way to test resolutions, but not actually set them. like in windows, you click on the resolution, and if it works you can keep it, but if it doesnt work (for instance, if your monitor doesnt go that high) it will automatically go back
[02:23] <snowfaked> Diego: make sure you have dhclient3 program
[02:23] <Diego> How would I go about doing that snowfaked ?
[02:23] <spikeb> pyrotic: you need to install the nvidia proprietary drivers, and see if that helps
[02:23] <pyrotic> richiefrich ok, ini my lsmod?..........
[02:23] <Bilange> pyrotic: was it made by ATI or by another 3rd party company?
[02:23] <pyrotic> Bilange Powercolor RADEON 9800PRO
[02:23] <snowfaked> Diego: you should have dhcp3-client and -common installed (dpkg -l |grep dhcp)
[02:24] <pyrotic> spikeb how do I do that?.. :)
[02:24] <spikeb> !nvidia
[02:24] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:24] <Diego> Well if I should, then Im assuming I do because I didnt recieve any errors during the install of Ubuntu
[02:24] <snowfaked> Diego: you could also try to run dhcp manually, dhclient3 eth0
[02:24] <Bilange> pyrotic: hmm... I bought a "real" ati card-- a Radeon 8500, and worked/detected flawlessly
[02:24] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  u should also have    nvidia   too like this -->  nvidia
[02:24] <spikeb> pyrotic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:24] <grout_> how do i install a theme in gnome?
[02:24] <pyrotic> Bilange congratulations, I'll be buying another one soon :)...256MB this time...
[02:24] <AlinuxOS> hello people, is there some apt-get tricks to have only ubuntu-desktop programms?
[02:24] <grout_> when i drag it into the themes window it says invalid file format
[02:24] <pyrotic> richiefrich hm.. I'll show you my lsmod one sec.
[02:25] <AlinuxOS> I would like to remove the rest
[02:25] <snowfaked> Diego: also check /var/log/syslog for any error messages dhcp might give
[02:25] <pyrotic> spikeb that better help me or I will be mad.... lol, jk jk :P
[02:25] <AlinuxOS> not ubuntu-desktop depended programs.
[02:25] <spikeb> pyrotic: haha i hope it does
[02:25] <pyrotic> spikeb meeee too....
[02:25] <richiefrich> pyrotic, sorry maybe they changed it in the newer version
[02:25] <Bilange> pyrotic: but its curious that an ATI card isnt working with linux, its not like it was some old and obscure from Matrox or even SiS, for example
[02:25] <spikeb> old and obscure matrox cards work well with linux ;)
[02:26] <pyrotic> Bilange because they don't have hardware accelleration available for the 9600 or higher..
[02:26] <Diego> alright snowfaked
[02:26] <Bilange> spikeb: that was just an example, i dunno if it DOES work or not :)
[02:26] <pyrotic> richiefrich here is my lsmod - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14040
[02:26] <Diego> I think I am going to reboot
[02:26] <Diego> and try it out
[02:26] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok
[02:26] <Diego> hopefully Ill be joining you all from Ubuntu next time ;]
[02:26] <spikeb> Bilange: hehe
[02:26] <pyrotic> spikeb I followed that one last night, didn't work.
[02:26] <snowfaked> hardware acceleration for 9600 and higher?
[02:27] <Diego> Thanks again snowfaked and see ya soon ;]
[02:27] <spikeb> pyrotic: oh
[02:27] <pyrotic> snowfaked to my knowledge, they do not have drivers that have hardware accelleration for the 9600 or higher.
[02:27] <snowfaked> Diego: ok no problem ;)
[02:27] <snowfaked> pyrotic: i have mobile 9600 and it works fine
[02:27] <spikeb> pyrotic: your xorg.conf is missing stuff though, it's not telling x to use the nvidia driver
[02:27] <pyrotic> spikeb should I edit it..?.....
[02:27] <snowfaked> pyrotic: at least enemy territory works well with high quality settings
[02:28] <pyrotic> snowfaked oh?.. maybe it's 9700+.. ? :P
[02:28] <igor> why is there no xorgcfg? how can i configure my xorg?
[02:28] <slackern> I have 9800XT and the ubuntu packaged ones work fine but ati's own have better performance but are loads buggier.
[02:28] <snowfaked> it says 'mobility radeon 9600 generic' ;)
[02:28] <apokryphos> igor: edit the xorg.conf manually or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:28] <pyrotic> snowfaked Lucky duck, I had a 9800PRO 128MB and it wouldn't work.. now I have a 64MB MX/MX 400 nvidia geforce.. and it still wont' work!...
[02:28] <spikeb> pyrotic: at the very least, Driver                "nv" needs to read "nvidia"
[02:28] <pyrotic> spikeb Ok, the last time I did that, I got xserver error on boot...
[02:28] <igor> apokryphos: thanks, say would you know where i could get something like gpm? so mouse in terminal
[02:28] <spikeb> pyrotic: yeah, more troubleshooting ahead :)
[02:29] <spikeb> i have to go, folks. be back later.
[02:29] <pyrotic> spikeb *sigh*...have a good one
[02:29] <apokryphos> igor: no idea I'm afraid
[02:29] <richiefrich> pyrotic, what do u get if u type -->  modprobe nvidia    ?
[02:29] <igor> apokryphos: thanks anyways
[02:29] <richiefrich> pyrotic, do u get an error>
[02:30] <pyrotic> richiefrich yes, unless I do it under sudo, then it enters to the next line
[02:30] <snowfaked> although it would be nice if there were any games other than ut,quake and et where i could enjoy my mobility radeon 9600 + my new work laptop :>
[02:30] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok then u get no error>
[02:30] <snowfaked> (and something else than tuxracer;)
[02:30] <niki> is there a term command that i can use to view what kernel version i'm using?
[02:30] <snowfaked> uname -r
[02:30] <richiefrich> pyrotic, then do a  --> lsmod | grep nvidia
[02:31] <snowfaked> niki: that was for you ;)
[02:31] <richiefrich> pyrotic, do u see  two nvidia
[02:31] <niki> ty snowfaked :D
[02:31] <pyrotic> richiefrich yes I see nvidia and nvidia_agp
[02:31] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok u didnt have that other on loaded
[02:31] <igor> how do i add a service so it will start at bootup?
[02:31] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  now do the driver "nvidia" ijn xorg.conf
[02:31] <tritium> igor: with update-rc.d
[02:32] <igor> tritium: thanks
[02:32] <richiefrich> pyrotic, then restart X
[02:32] <pyrotic> richiefrich you sure?.. because last time I did that.. I got xserver error on boot... and had to go through a bunch of trouble to get it back
[02:32] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  are u booting to X
[02:32] <richiefrich> pyrotic, or the console
[02:33] <pyrotic> richiefrich I assume it boots to X...
[02:33] <richiefrich> pyrotic, i dont do that for that reason like u just stated
[02:33] <pyrotic> richiefrich Ok, so what do you want me to do?
[02:34] <richiefrich> pyrotic, it it wont load just change the Driver "nvidia"  back th "nv"
[02:34] <grout_> when i drag it into the themes window it says invalid file format
[02:34] <grout_> how do i install a theme in gnome?
[02:34] <richiefrich> pyrotic, but it should load now that  u have the nvidia module loaded
[02:34] <pyrotic> richiefrich how do I do that, if I can't get to the desktop?... what would be the command to do so...
[02:34] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ?
[02:34] <pyrotic> richiefrich Ok, I'll try it, if a last resort, I have another harddrive with Ubuntu on it I can load up on.
[02:35] <richiefrich> pyrotic, u can use the live CD to  boot then mount  then edit xorg.conf
[02:35] <AlinuxOS> hello, I yould like to keep all ubuntu-desktop dependent application and rmove the rest. Is there some apt-get triks ? Can someone help me?
[02:35] <richiefrich> thats all your changing
[02:35] <richiefrich> pyrotic, the modprobe wont hurt u at all
[02:35] <pyrotic> richiefrich, Ok, I will... I'll be back, restarting x
[02:35] <richiefrich> ok
[02:36] <richiefrich> ill pray
[02:36] <richiefrich> pyrotic, u could try Xnest
[02:36] <richiefrich> too
[02:36] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  startx -- /usr/bin/Xnest :1
[02:36] <richiefrich> ok he left
[02:38] <richiefrich> pyrotic, it loaded?
[02:38] <richiefrich> i see?
[02:38] <pyrotic> richiefrich Ok, it loaded the nvidia splash, which has never done before, but!... I still get the same Open_GL Error, when launching ET
[02:39] <anthony_> i just donwloaded the new version of firefox on ubuntu
[02:39] <anthony_> how can i install it ?
[02:39] <lynx> join #Debian-co
[02:39] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok at least your using nvida now
[02:39] <richiefrich> :)
[02:39] <richiefrich> pyrotic, grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:39] <pyrotic> richiefrich yes, thank you... but I'd like to play my game :P
[02:39] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok
[02:39] <richiefrich> n[
[02:39] <richiefrich> np
[02:40] <pyrotic> Failed to load GLX
[02:40] <richiefrich> pyrotic, damn
[02:40] <pyrotic> want me to join that Channel?
[02:40] <richiefrich> if u want it's mine
[02:40] <Jowi> pyrotic: is the glx module in xorg.xonf?
[02:40] <richiefrich> i do lots of help there
[02:40] <pyrotic> well I just need to get this darned game working!.. :P
[02:41] <pyrotic> Jowi Hmm... want me to post my xorg.conf?
[02:41] <Jowi> pyrotic: sure, or have a quick look
[02:41] <pyrotic> Jowi I'm linux impaired... so I'd trust your judgement over mine.
[02:41] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  if u want it's mine about the channel
[02:42] <pyrotic> richiefrich I might, after a bit here...
[02:42] <richiefrich> pyrotic, ok, it's nice
[02:42] <richiefrich> pyrotic, but anyway, play your game
[02:42] <Diego> hello
[02:42] <pyrotic> richiefrich can't, same open_gl error, still trying to fix it..
[02:42] <richiefrich> pyrotic, and ill look into that error
[02:42] <Diego> Im back
[02:42] <Diego> But regretfully, not on Ubuntuu
[02:42] <pyrotic> jowi - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14041 -
[02:42] <Diego> lol
[02:42] <richiefrich> pyrotic, damn
[02:42] <Diego> I still cant get it up
[02:43] <pyrotic> Diego what is your problem?
[02:43] <richiefrich> Diego, sounds like a personal problem :)  lol
[02:43] <Jowi> pyrotic: nope, it's not there. "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[02:43] <pyrotic> Diego *Hands Diego Virtual Viagra :)*
[02:43] <Diego> yes!
[02:43] <Diego> Alright guys
[02:43] <Diego> thanks
[02:44] <Diego> I hope she gives me a second chance
[02:44] <snowfaked> it works?
[02:44] <Diego> brb!
[02:44] <pyrotic> jowi Nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[02:44] <Diego> no snowfaked it doesnt lol
[02:44] <h3h_timo> can anyone tell me how to extract a rar file that has a password?
[02:44] <Diego>  Im on my brothers computer
[02:44] <snowfaked> Diego: ok :)
[02:44] <Jowi> pyrotic: good. now "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[02:44] <pyrotic> Diego Good luck!
[02:44] <Diego> so I can interact with Ubuntu while on here
[02:44] <Diego> to try to trouble shoot
[02:44] <Diego> If you guys dont mind helping me out ;]
[02:44] <Jowi> pyrotic: btw, which nvidia card you got?
[02:45] <snowfaked> Diego: if we would we just wouldn't answer you ;)
[02:45] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, use file-roller
[02:45] <Diego> Indeed
[02:45] <pyrotic> jowi nVidia GeForce MX/MX 400
[02:45] <h3h_timo> yeah i tried.. it said it couldnt open it i guess
[02:45] <pyrotic> jowi - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14042 -
[02:45] <Diego> So what exactly should I try now?
[02:45] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, unrar
[02:46] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, unrar t   <-- to test
[02:46] <Diego> I tried ifup eth0 and it said I didnt have permission
[02:46] <snowfaked> Diego: try with sudo ifup eth0
[02:46] <Diego>  I did
[02:46] <h3h_timo> alright
[02:46] <Jowi> pyrotic: post your xorg.conf again please
[02:46] <propheteer> i tried to apt-get upgrade to dapper, but now my system won't boot.  how can i recover it from this breezy live cd?
[02:46] <propheteer> is there any way for me to complete the apt-get upgrade?
[02:46] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, unrar  p[password]
[02:46] <pyrotic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14041
[02:47] <propheteer> right now, when i boot up, it gets to "detecting pcmcia devices" and freezes.  i don't have a pcmcia device on this machine.
[02:47] <snowfaked> propheteer: boot from livecd, mount your root and then do chroot /therootdir
[02:47] <propheteer> snowfaked, awesome
[02:47] <Jowi> pyrotic: that's the new one?
[02:47] <Diego> It sais "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[02:47] <pyrotic> jowi Oh,... no.. one sec.. :)
[02:47] <h3h_timo> richiefrich, whenever i do that it just gives me a bunch of crap
[02:47] <richiefrich> Diego, seems like a kerenl issue
[02:47] <Diego> and when I tried grub dhcp it just sat there and didnt respond
[02:48] <richiefrich> Diego, what card do u have
[02:48] <pyrotic> Jowi - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14043 -
[02:48] <snowfaked> propheteer: you could also try to modify boot parameters
[02:48] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, then it might be a bad file
[02:48] <Diego> I coudlnt tell you off the top of my head
[02:48] <richiefrich> Diego,  lspci
[02:48] <Diego> but I bought an out of the box dell,
[02:48] <snowfaked> propheteer: add "hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false"
[02:48] <richiefrich> Diego,  your not on it sorry
[02:48] <snowfaked> propheteer: (at least it works with debian;)
[02:48] <h3h_timo> im not so sure
[02:48] <snowfaked> Diego: did you see your card when doing ifconfig eth0?
[02:48] <propheteer> snowfaked, it would probably be good to complete the apt-get upgrade first.
[02:48] <propheteer> dist-upgrade that is.
[02:49] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, do this --->  file <your.rar>
[02:49] <propheteer> man...the default ubuntu look is terrible.
[02:49] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, whats that say
[02:49] <Diego> when I do lspci
[02:49] <snowfaked> propheteer: yep, you can do it by booting, mounting the root, chrooting the root and then just typing the apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:49] <pyrotic> propheteer I take offense to that, I love the default look :)
[02:49] <richiefrich> Diego, yes to u remember?.
[02:49] <Jowi> pyrotic: now, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" the driver should be "nvidia" and make sure glx module is chosen and when you get asked if DRI should be added, chose Yes.
[02:49] <h3h_timo> richiefrich, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[02:49] <propheteer> it needs to be pretty and blue or something, like a mac. ;)
[02:49] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, bad file
[02:49] <snowfaked> propheteer: you can install macos on pc also ;)
[02:49] <propheteer> snowfaked, how can i list my mountable volumes?  i'm brain dead tired right now.
[02:49] <h3h_timo> okay.. thank you
[02:50] <richiefrich> np
[02:50] <snowfaked> propheteer: fdisk -l shows your partitions
[02:50] <pyrotic> Jowi "Attempt to autodetect video hardware?"
[02:50] <Diego> it sais "intel corp 82801BD PRO/100 VE (LOM)
[02:50] <Jowi> pyrotic: sure, if it is wrong you will know
[02:50] <snowfaked> i like the default theme now when i got a background image to go with it: http://vuokrapalvelin.net/snowfake/screenshot.jpg :)
[02:50] <pyrotic> jowi nv or nvidia
[02:50] <Jowi> nvidia
[02:50] <richiefrich> Diego,  can u get in your kernel ?
[02:50] <pyrotic> jowi for desired xserver driver
[02:50] <snowfaked> Diego: sorry i probably missed it, what does ifconfig eth0 say?
[02:50] <pyrotic> jowi nvidia I assume.
[02:51] <Jowi> pyrotic: yes
[02:51] <gnosticapex> Question: how do I fix "No RPM for this combination of URL and method" when I type in my modems IP? o.0
[02:51] <pyrotic> Jowi asks to enter the amount of memory that can be used by my video card in KB... would that be like, 64000kb ?...
[02:52] <propheteer> i set my girlfriend's xp system not to have desktop icons, and she just called me angrily asking how to put them back.
[02:52] <Jowi> pyrotic: leave it blank
[02:52] <propheteer> i was like, "i put launchers to everything you need on your launcher bar, why would you need icons on your _desktop_?"
[02:52] <pyrotic> jowi - "Use kernel framebuffer device interface?"
[02:52] <propheteer> my final response was telling her how to do it, and saying, "if you like useless clutter on your desktop, have at it."
[02:52] <Diego> snowfaked: the first line said "link encap: Ethernet   HWaddr 00:07:  and a series of other numbers
[02:52] <richiefrich> pyrotic, no
[02:52] <squidgy> When I try to enable bash completion via ". /etc/bash_completion", I get the following error:  "bash: ld.so-1.7.0: command not found".  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[02:52] <Jowi> pyrotic: nah
[02:52] <Diego> the secoind like : BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 MEtric:1
[02:53] <Diego> and the other lines are just reporting 0s
[02:53] <Diego> 0.0 kb
[02:53] <snowfaked> Diego: ok, so it has loaded the driver about ok ;)
[02:53] <Diego> etc
[02:53] <gnosticapex> how do I fix "No RPM for this combination of URL and method" when I type in my modems IP? o.0
[02:53] <pyrotic> jowi - keyboard variant? - :S
[02:53] <pyrotic> jowi - leave blank I assume...?
[02:53] <Jowi> pyrotic: yep
[02:53] <Diego> snowfaked: So whats next? lol
[02:53] <snowfaked> Diego: how about sudo ifup eth0?
[02:53] <snowfaked> did it complain about something
[02:53] <Diego> it said that thing
[02:53] <pyrotic> jowi ok to the configuring the modules
[02:54] <Diego> about ignoring unknown eth0=eth0
[02:54] <pyrotic> jowi which ones should I select and deselect?
[02:54] <snowfaked> Diego: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0?
[02:54] <propheteer> root@ubuntu:/# sudo apt-get update
[02:54] <propheteer> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:54] <propheteer> ??
[02:54] <Jowi> pyrotic: you should probably have dbe, ddc, dri, extmod, freetype, glx, int10, record, type1, bitmap
[02:55] <HymnToLife> propheteer> did you change your hostname recently ?
[02:55] <pyrotic> GLcore is selected, bitmap is selected, dbe is NOT selected, ddc is selected, dri is elected, extmod is selected, freetype is selected, glx is selected, int10 is selected, record is NOT selected, type1 is selected, v4l is NOT selected, vbe is selected...
[02:55] <Diego> mapping hotplu
[02:55] <Diego> mapping hotplug*
[02:55] <Diego> script grep
[02:55] <Diego> map eth0
[02:55] <richiefrich> pyrotic, u dont need Glore
[02:55] <pyrotic> jowi now after you read through that, which should I deselect and select.. :)
[02:55] <Diego> are the last three lines, and the only refering to eth0
[02:55] <pyrotic> richiefrich well I hit enter on accident :|
[02:56] <Diego> snowfaked, did you get that?
[02:56] <richiefrich> pyrotic, u can del it later
[02:56] <richiefrich> pyrotic, in xorg.conf
[02:56] <Jowi> pyrotic: select all but v4l. should be safe bet
[02:56] <snowfaked> Diego: you don't have 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' as last line?
[02:56] <pyrotic> richiefrich k.
[02:56] <Diego> no i do not
[02:56] <pyrotic> jowi I just left it as it was.. is that ok?.. lol
[02:56] <propheteer> HymnToLife, nah.
[02:56] <richiefrich> pyrotic,   type1  freetype  glx
[02:56] <propheteer> but why does that matter?
[02:56] <snowfaked> Diego: and you did you dhcp for your network right?
[02:56] <pyrotic> jowi I accidently hit enter :(
[02:56] <Jowi> pyrotic: probably :)
[02:56] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  thats all i use
[02:56] <snowfaked> Diego: and not static ip's?
[02:56] <pyrotic> jowi ok, it's done, now what.
[02:57] <propheteer> i mean, my host name is "ubuntu" right now because this is the live disk.
[02:57] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  and  dbe
[02:57] <HymnToLife> propheteer> look at your /etc/hosts and check if the <IP_ADDRESS> line is mentionning the correct hostname
[02:57] <Jowi> pyrotic: did you install nvidia-settings?
[02:57] <gnosticapex> how do I fix "No RPM for this combination of URL and method" when I type in my modems IP in firefox :o
[02:57] <Diego> snowfaked, the modem is conneted to a router, of which I am the first connected,  I do not believe Comcast assigns static Ips
[02:57] <pyrotic> jowi Uh... sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings ?... I dunno ? :S
[02:57] <propheteer> root@ubuntu:/# su -
[02:57] <propheteer> configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[02:57] <propheteer> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGIN_STR' (notify administrator)
[02:57] <propheteer> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
[02:57] <propheteer> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
[02:57] <propheteer> configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)
[02:57] <Jowi> pyrotic: try :)
[02:57] <propheteer> doh...oops.
[02:58] <Diego> but what do you mean did I "do dhcp"
[02:58] <tritium> propheteer: use pastebin!
[02:58] <HymnToLife> !tell propheteer about pastebin
[02:58] <pyrotic> !tell propheteer about pastebin
[02:58] <snowfaked> Diego: ok. then you could try to add 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' at the end of the file
[02:58] <propheteer> xchat doesn't take out carriage returns?  wow.
[02:58] <HymnToLife> pyrotic> u g0t pwn3d ;)
[02:58] <pyrotic> hymtolife I noticed ;)
[02:58] <Jowi> pyrotic: which kernel are you using? 386, 686 or k7?
[02:58] <Diego> then what snowfaked
[02:58] <richiefrich> propheteer, it never didi
[02:58] <Diego> How would we check if that worked?
[02:58] <propheteer> richiefrich, ??
[02:59] <pyrotic> jowi Uh.. Uh.. Uh.. probably one of those three... :).. No idea :|..
[02:59] <propheteer> richiefrich, vision does, i'm surprised xchat doesn't have that feature.
 xchat doesn't take out carriage returns?  wow.
[02:59] <Diego> also snowfaked The file is read only
[02:59] <Diego> I cant seem to edit it
[02:59] <propheteer> richiefrich, yes, why does saying "it never did" make sense?
[02:59] <Jowi> pyrotic: "uname -a" will tell you
[02:59] <snowfaked> Diego: you can edit it with sudo nano /etc/...
[02:59] <propheteer> what's going on with my "hostname"?
[02:59] <richiefrich> propheteer, because xchat never did
[02:59] <x_o1> Where do I put commands I want to run on boot?
[02:59] <propheteer> i never said it did!
[02:59] <pyrotic> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Apr 28 13:13:44 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:00] <propheteer> richiefrich, you're not making any sense.
[03:00] <x_o1> Should they go in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh?
[03:00] <snowfaked> Diego: but the right way is probably by double clicking on the upper right hand corner of the screen and opening network connections and selecting configure. but it does basically the same
[03:00] <propheteer> it's like 90 degrees in san francisco today.
[03:00] <bimberi> x_o1: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:00] <Jowi> pyrotic: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-386"
[03:00] <richiefrich> propheteer, because xchat never did  <---  take out carriage returns
[03:00] <HymnToLife> propheteer> the thing is, why would it ?
[03:00] <HymnToLife> there are carriage returns to it keeps it
[03:00] <bimberi> x_o1: :)
[03:00] <richiefrich> propheteer, is that clear
[03:00] <pyrotic> jowi already newest version, I installed those last night
[03:00] <HymnToLife> how would you react if it was removing letters ?
[03:00] <I_Eat_Plastic> Has anyone ever bought skypeout minutes?
[03:00] <BlackHand> hi
[03:00] <propheteer> richiefrich, that doesn't make sense though.  i said "wow" about xchat not taking out carriage returns.  obviously i would assume that since it doesn't now, it never did.
[03:01] <Jowi> pyrotic: oops "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686"
[03:01] <BlackHand> dotdeb repos is a recomended repo for ubuntu ?
[03:01] <duckdown> `Hey guys..  I'm running dapper, and quite often now after system-updates its been requesting a reboot in the top of my screen.  What is constantly requiring reboots, and how neccessary are they?
[03:01] <propheteer> richiefrich, it's clear, it just doesn't make sense.
[03:01] <Jowi> pyrotic: "uname -m" please
[03:01] <pyrotic> jowi installing at the moment
[03:01] <richiefrich> propheteer, xchat never did or does take out carriage returns
[03:01] <Jowi> pyrotic: after it's done, reboot and cross your fingers
[03:02] <Diego> ok snowfaked I appended the lines to the filee
[03:02] <pyrotic> Jowi Okily Dokily... want me to do uname -m before I reboot after it installed?
[03:02] <pyrotic> jowi installs*
[03:02] <snowfaked> Diego: you cna also add 'auto eth0' there on separate line
[03:02] <propheteer> richiefrich, lol
[03:02] <propheteer> you're a funny guy.
[03:02] <Jowi> pyrotic: nah. it will be fine
[03:02] <HymnToLife> duckdown> reboot requests often mean something regarding your kernel was change
[03:02] <HymnToLife> +d
[03:02] <pyrotic> Jowi Mk. Almost done.
[03:02] <snowfaked> Diego: after that, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:03] <propheteer> richiefrich, your comment would make sense if i had added "anymore" to my original question.
[03:03] <pyrotic> Jowi I would kiss the guy on the lips whoever made Cable internet... ok.. maybe not that great... but.. I'd give him a hearty handshake :D!
[03:03] <Jowi> pyrotic: hehe, well, after your reboot we will make sure it works ok. then you can thank me
[03:03] <propheteer> doh!  i already _am_ root.
[03:04] <pyrotic> Jowi if it doesn't, I'll hop on my other harddrive with Ubuntu, and yell at you okay? :D ;)
[03:04] <richiefrich> propheteer, anyway your problem
[03:04] <pyrotic> Jow ;)
[03:04] <pyrotic> Jowi ;)*
[03:04] <pyrotic> Jowi this computer does not like this keyboard...
[03:04] <richiefrich> propheteer, those errors, thats in your profile
[03:05] <pyrotic> Jowi Ok, Reboot time, I may be back!...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[03:05] <Jowi> pyrotic: hopefully
[03:05] <richiefrich> propheteer,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147634
[03:05] <propheteer> richiefrich, but do you understand what i meant now?  simple semantic issue.
[03:05] <propheteer> richiefrich, apt-get is working now.
[03:05] <propheteer> i'm going to finish and then see what that accomplishes.
[03:05] <richiefrich> propheteer, those errors configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
[03:06] <richiefrich> propheteer, that wasnt you? that posted them
[03:06] <propheteer> richiefrich, oh.  well, it's not an issue for me.  i was trying to run sudo when i'm already root.
[03:06] <kar-tar_> so I just downloaded and built vim7.0... anyone know how to set up gvim?
[03:06] <propheteer> are any of you guys going to buy the nokia 770 with google talk on it?  it's exactly what i've been looking for.
[03:07] <Diego> Id like to thank everyone for the help
[03:07] <vitry> root@nen:~/sancho-0.9.4-57-linux-gtk-java # ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:07] <vitry> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:07] <vitry> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered
[03:07] <vitry> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=2 Packet filtered
[03:07] <vitry> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=3 Packet filtered
[03:07] <vitry> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[03:07] <vitry> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2008ms
[03:07] <richiefrich> propheteer,  those errors come from --> /etc/login.defs
[03:08] <tritium> !tell vitry about pastebin
[03:08] <richiefrich> propheteer, if u want to fix them
[03:08] <vitry> why I don't can conect to my lo
[03:08] <abarbaccia> hey all - how do i reinstall grub? its just printing the word grub 1000 times when i go to boot
[03:08] <richiefrich> vitry, can u ping anything else
[03:08] <Jowi> vitry: software firewall installed that blocks pings maybe?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !grub
[03:08] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:09] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, -->  grub
[03:09] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, -->  root (hd0,0)
[03:09] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, -->  setup (hd0)
[03:09] <zithowa> what's a good way to do a search within several text files?
[03:09] <vitry> Jowi, I'm no thing any rules in iptales
[03:09] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: do i boot into knoppix first or something then chroot?
[03:09] <pyrotic> Jowi *Walks up and gives him a HEARTY HandShake
[03:09] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, yes
[03:09] <awesometaylor> hey guys what is a command to give /home/taylor/music files write permission
[03:09] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: great
[03:10] <pyrotic> Jowi It works :D
[03:10] <Jowi> pyrotic: positive news then :)
[03:10] <pyrotic> Jowi you are GENIUS!
[03:10] <pyrotic> Jowi Thank you, THank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, I can paste bin this if I must!... :)
[03:10] <Zeus`> How come I do not have persmission to view my windows partition
[03:10] <Zeus`> there is a link on it on my desktop
[03:10] <Zeus`> but I cant view its contents?
[03:10] <pyrotic> Zeus` have to be root
[03:10] <richiefrich> Zeus`, how'd u mount it
[03:10] <Jowi> pyrotic: enjoy your gaming :) need some sleep real soon now
[03:11] <richiefrich> pyrotic, not true
[03:11] <Zeus`> It was automatically mounted I believe
[03:11] <pyrotic> Jowi Oh I will.. and I'll be back another day for anothe rproblem!.. take care, thanks again.
[03:11] <Zeus`> I just loaded up, and there it is
[03:11] <Zeus`> sitting there
[03:11] <Zeus`> Is there a way to automate this sudo thing?
[03:11] <richiefrich> Zeus`, what line u have in /etx/fstab
[03:11] <pyrotic> Richiefrich I was just trying to be smart, why do you make me look dumb!.. :P... thanks for your help as well, I'm outta here... L8R3z...
[03:11] <richiefrich> Zeus`, what line u have in /etc/fstab
[03:11] <BlackHand> hi, somebody use dotdeb repos in ubuntu ?
[03:11] <richiefrich> pyrotic,  later
[03:11] <kar-tar_> Zeus, ntfs?
[03:11] <pyrotic> Zeus` "sudo -i" (Enter your password) and to exit, type "exit"..
[03:11] <richiefrich> lol
[03:12] <richiefrich> Zeus`, what line u have in /etc/fstab
[03:12] <pyrotic> ~~--POOF--~~ (He's gone.. but he will return, for more assistance will be needed... :) )
[03:12] <Zeus`> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[03:12] <richiefrich> Zeus`,  ok try this
[03:13] <HymnToLife> !tell Zeus` about ntfs
[03:13] <richiefrich> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[03:13] <richiefrich> Zeus`, ^^
[03:13] <richiefrich> HymnToLife, u broke him
[03:13] <richiefrich> :)
[03:14] <HymnToLife> heh, we hve a nice bot with lots of stuff in memory
[03:14] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: it tells me selected disk does not exist when i say root(hd0,0) -- how do i print partitions and such
[03:14] <HymnToLife> so why not use it ?
[03:14] <richiefrich> HymnToLife, i see
[03:14] <rox> hi all
[03:14] <richiefrich> HymnToLife,  but u pwned him
[03:15] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, u mount your /boot
[03:15] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: its all in the /
[03:15] <richiefrich> ooh
[03:16] <Zeus`> ok the script they have here, assumes that I have no entries in fstab, and that the partitions are not already mounted. Except, they are and I do have entries in Fstab
[03:16] <richiefrich> u at -->  grub>
[03:16] <Zeus`> how would I prepare my system to use the script correctly?
[03:16] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: yes
[03:16] <HymnToLife> Zeus`> hold on, I'll tell you what to put in your fstab line instead of defaults
[03:17] <Zeus`> ok
[03:17] <richiefrich> Zeus`, /dev/hda2       /media/hda2  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222                    0 0
[03:17] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, hmm
[03:17] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, do this
[03:17] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: i'm confused - how do i get it to list all the devices?
[03:17] <richiefrich> qujit
[03:17] <richiefrich> quit
[03:18] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, idk, what drives u have ?
[03:18] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, like hda hdb?
[03:18] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, like sda sdb >
[03:18] <HymnToLife> I usually put ro,user,auto,gid=100,nls=utf8,umask=002
[03:18] <h3h_timo> what is the best messenger for icq?
[03:18] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: sda1
[03:18] <richiefrich> gaim
[03:18] <abarbaccia> sda
[03:18] <abarbaccia> sda2, sda3 (2 is swap, 3 is home)
[03:19] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, whats  in your grub.conf
[03:19] <Zeus`> ok richiefrich how do I make sure that I corrected the problem?
[03:19] <richiefrich> abarbaccia or in mene.lst
[03:19] <Zeus`> Ive already edited the line
[03:19] <HymnToLife> Zeus`> then close the file and run sudo mount -a
[03:19] <richiefrich> Zeus`, then umount /media/hda2
[03:20] <richiefrich> Zeus`, then mount /media/hda2
[03:20] <richiefrich> Zeus`, u must unmount 1st
[03:20] <HymnToLife> richiefrich> it works fine without unmounting
[03:20] <h3h_timo> is there any better alternative to gaim
[03:20] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: my menu.list is setup to use /dev/sda1
[03:20] <HymnToLife> h3h_timo> kopete
[03:21] <h3h_timo> thanks
[03:21] <Zeus`> excellent
[03:21] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, can u post that please
[03:21] <Zeus`> Alright everyone, thanks for the help ;]
[03:21] <h3h_timo> what is a good irc client?
[03:21] <HymnToLife> h3h_timo> xchat
[03:21] <awesometaylor> h3h_time irssi
[03:21] <crimsun> "good" is subjective.
[03:21] <Nuln> xchat :p
[03:21] <h3h_timo> thats what im usin
[03:22] <h3h_timo> is the mozilla chat thing better?
[03:22] <awesometaylor> x-chat with gnome extensions ;)
[03:22] <Zeus`> Is there an easy way to make sure all of my programs are uptodate? IE Firefox?
[03:22] <Sorcre> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu Dapper beta and now my pc gets stuck at the grub screen. I had this problem with previous versions of Ubuntu as well. How can I install Lilo instead from the Live cd?
[03:22] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, what u need it for?
[03:22] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, just irc?
[03:22] <h3h_timo> what else can u use it for?
[03:22] <awesometaylor> Zeus`  synaptic
[03:22] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, irssi
[03:22] <richiefrich> is the bst imho
[03:22] <h3h_timo> what is irssi?
[03:22] <richiefrich> bst/best
[03:22] <h3h_timo> !irssi
[03:22] <ubotu> irssi is probably http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[03:23] <richiefrich> apt-get install irssi
[03:23] <richiefrich> sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:23] <tritium> irssi should be installed, as ubuntu-desktop depends on it
[03:24] <Sorcre> join #ubuntu+1
[03:24] <h3h_timo> richiefrich, i cant install irssi
[03:24] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, why
[03:24] <richiefrich> h3h_timo, then try
[03:25] <richiefrich> irssi
[03:25] <richiefrich> in comsole
[03:25] <richiefrich> what u get ?
[03:25] <Flannel> the package name is irssi-text, but yeah, its installed.
[03:25] <richiefrich> Flannel, i thought it was wasnt sure
[03:26] <tritium> !tell richiefrich about enter
[03:26] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, can u post that please  ?
[03:26] <h3h_timo> i got it now
[03:26] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: that box is not on the internet
[03:26] <Flannel> richiefrich: yeah, ubuntu-desktop depends on irssi.
[03:26] <h3h_timo> hmmm
[03:26] <h3h_timo> okay ima try it out
[03:27] <richiefrich> when did i spam the channel?   i type things
[03:27] <Sorcre> Is there a way to install Lilo instead of Grub with the Ubuntu beta live cd?
[03:27] <tritium> richiefrich: keep in on one line as best you can please
[03:27] <richiefrich> tritium, ok
[03:27] <penguin5201> quick problem, when i install zlib, i get the error
[03:27] <tritium> richiefrich: thanks, buddy :)
[03:28] <SKARLET> GOOD NIGHT
[03:28] <richiefrich> tritium, np
[03:28] <needlez> hey everyone, is there a way to test screen resolutions? like in windows? i click on the resolution i want, and if it works i can keep it that way, but if it doesnt work (like if it goes out of my monitors range) i can just set it back to my standard default one?
[03:28] <SKARLET> anyone from brazil?
[03:28] <richiefrich> tritium, i play nice :)
[03:28] <penguin5201> quick problem, when i install zlib, i get the error No utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh", what do i do?
[03:29] <tritium> richiefrich: and you've been helpful too!  Rock on!
[03:29] <SKARLET> I just finish the installation of the cd. and now appears : eduardo@ubuntu:~$    and the prompt blink
[03:29] <SKARLET> what i do now?
[03:30] <richiefrich> tritium, i try. i use 4 distro's it's hard to remember them all sometimesz
[03:30] <tritium> richiefrich: I can imagine
[03:30] <penguin5201> skarlet: try ubuntu.com, i think theres a tut there
[03:30] <tritium> SKARLET: you didn't get a graphical login?
[03:30] <abarbaccia> richiefrich: is there any way to do this in any other way than booting into knoppix and chroot?
[03:30] <SKARLET> what means tut?
[03:30] <Orborde> What do I need to modify to have a script execute every time I bring up eth0? I need to duplicate the system resolv.conf into a chroot (though if you have a better way, feel free to tell me).
[03:30] <penguin5201> tutorial
[03:30] <SKARLET> tritium > no..
[03:31] <abarbaccia> actually, heres a cat5 cable...gimme a minute richiefrich
[03:31] <richiefrich> tritium, gentoo/archlinux/RH/ubuntu   :0
[03:31] <tritium> SKARLET: hmm, you should have.  It wasn't a server install, was it?
[03:31] <richiefrich> abarbaccia, ok
[03:31] <tritium> richiefrich: :)
[03:31] <Flannel> SKARLET: if you're looking for people from brazil, try #ubuntu-br
[03:31] <SKARLET> i am at the tuttorial.. the only thing that i did is format an old pc here and install the cd that i received
[03:31] <richiefrich> tritium, soon sourcemage
[03:31] <penguin5201> hmm, yeah i think skarlet got the server edition
[03:31] <SKARLET> now.. idont know what more i need to do
[03:31] <drasko> hi all. I have Athlon XP and want to install mplayer. Should I use 586 version or k6?
[03:31] <Flannel> SKARLET: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <tritium> SKARLET: you received it in the mail?
[03:32] <snowfaked> Orborde: only other way i could think of would be run local caching-only dns server, and that would be kind of overkill :)
[03:32] <HymnToLife> drasko> depends on your kernel I think
[03:32] <gnosticapex> Im trying to install Amule, but I get "archive type not supported" for a .deb, how do I fix? o.0
[03:32] <SKARLET> tritium : regular mail
[03:32] <penguin5201> quick problem, when i install zlib, i get the error <No utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh">, what do i do?
[03:32] <Orborde> snowfaked: Thanks. I think I found the answer: add a post-up (command) line to /etc/network/interfaces ( see man 5 interfaces ).
[03:32] <SKARLET> Flannel where ai can find this?
[03:32] <HymnToLife> !tell gnosticapex about dpkg
[03:32] <Frox> I've been trying to install kubuntu 5.10 for a few days now and it keeps telling me on boot that /dev/hda1 does not exist. Anyone have any thoughts?
[03:33] <snowfaked> Orborde: you can add 'post-up 'cp /etc/resolv.conf... aah you found it already
[03:33] <ahmad> Hello! Can someone help me 1 on 1 how to install, and find a good linux P2P Application?
[03:33] <tritium> SKARLET: hmm, that was an install CD, and should have installed a desktop for you.  What hardware do you have?
[03:33] <drasko> HymnToLife, 2.6.8
[03:33] <Orborde> snowfaked: ;)
[03:33] <penguin5201> lol, frox, its not seeing your HDD
[03:33] <Orborde> snowfaked: Thanks
[03:33] <gnosticapex> Hymntolife: thanks
[03:33] <HymnToLife> drasko> and besides that ?
[03:33] <SKARLET> Triitum : pentium I - 233 mhz , 98mb
[03:33] <Frox> Heh, yeah. Just can't figure out why. It installs fine and all. :P
[03:33] <HymnToLife> It should look like 2.6.8-x-xxx
[03:33] <cfedde> ahmad: what do you consider a "good linux P2P Application"?
[03:33] <HymnToLife> like mine is 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:34] <penguin5201> try directing it to hda2
[03:34] <penguin5201> maybe
[03:34] <drasko> HymnToLife, ?
[03:34] <penguin5201> quick problem, when i install zlib, i get the error <No utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh">, what do i do?
[03:34] <Orborde> snowfaked: Works.
[03:34] <HymnToLife> drasko> uname -r will tell you :)
[03:34] <snowfaked> Orborde: great. never actually tried it myself as i've always ran rhel before ;)
[03:34] <drasko> HymnToLife, 2.6.8-2-386
[03:35] <Frox> Well here's the thing... If I boot with a live CD, it doesn't see the drive as formatted. It sees that there's a drive physically there, but I have to format it to access it.
[03:35] <Orborde> snowfaked: RHEL?
[03:35] <Frox> The intaller has been formatting the drive though.
[03:35] <snowfaked> cfedde: of course one that you can get A lot of warez easily/fast
[03:35] <HymnToLife> drasko> then you should go with 386 mplayer I guess, or you can install a k7 kernel to ru n k7 mplayer
[03:35] <tritium> Orborde: Redhat Enterprise Linux
[03:35] <snowfaked> Orborde: redhat enterprise linux (actualy nowadays the free clone, centos.org)
[03:35] <gnosticapex> hymntolife: does the .deb have to be in a certain place?
[03:35] <HymnToLife> gnosticapex> no
[03:35] <Orborde> tritium / snowfaked : Ah.
[03:35] <penguin5201> cant help you frox, i never did install kubuntu
[03:35] <drasko> HymnToLife, than i386, not i586, right?
[03:35] <Orborde> snowfaked: What's different about RHEL?
[03:35] <HymnToLife> if it's in some other directory, enter the full path for it in the command
[03:35] <needlez> hey everyone, is there a way to test screen resolutions? like in windows? i click on the resolution i want, and if it works i can keep it that way, but if it doesnt work (like if it goes out of my monitors range) i can just set it back to my standard default one?
[03:36] <snowfaked> Orborde: you know any redhat's versions? like fedora?
[03:36] <penguin5201> does ubuntu recognize most USB extensions?
[03:36] <jnil> i just downloaded amsn and it doesnt show on my gnome panel. what do i do?
[03:36] <HymnToLife> drasko> I guess there is little - if any - difference
[03:36] <gnosticapex> hymntolife: I have it on my desktop, I get a "Cant access file or directory [savefile]<PHONE_NUMBER>43_amule-2.1.1_2.1.1-1_i386"
[03:36] <Nuln> how can I create a portal on my wiki like wikipedia ? plz with a specific template
[03:36] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, hey - i'm good to go - lemme post this for you
[03:36] <snowfaked> Orborde: little different with scripts and such, and it uses rpm instead of deb's
[03:36] <richiefrich> needlez, in xorg.conf
[03:36] <drasko> HymnToLife, thanks a lot!
[03:36] <Frox> I'm thinking it's not an issue with kubuntu specifically though. It could be a kernel problem.
[03:36] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, ok
[03:36] <needlez> richiefrich. thank you
[03:36] <richiefrich> needlez, np
[03:36] <snowfaked> Orborde: and of course i would like to continue believing it's "more stable" as it is backed up by a large company :)
[03:36] <needlez> richiefrich. wait. how do i open that?
[03:36] <HymnToLife> gnosticapex> then run sudo dpkg -i Desktop/filename.deb
[03:36] <Frox> I'll try vanilla Ubuntu though.
[03:36] <Orborde> needlez: If you're in GNOMe (default Ubuntu environment), you can change screen resolutions with System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[03:37] <cfedde> snowfaked: I was just wondering about that.   But then again maybe ahmad wants something he can use to get nuclear plan plans out of nigeria with.
[03:37] <richiefrich> needlez, nano/pico/vim/emacs >-- pick one
[03:37] <DarkMageZ> jnil, in the terminal type amsn and it should start, if it does start, file a bug against amsn saying it doesn't put an icon in the menu
[03:37] <tritium> cfedde: ?
[03:37] <DarkMageZ> jnil, this is presuming that you are using amsn from the repositories
[03:37] <richiefrich> needlez, nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <Orborde> snowfaked: Okay. I knew a little (I've played with Fedora). There's kind of the Red Hat Way and the Debian Way, eh?
[03:37] <needlez> orborde, i am in GNOME, but if the resolution goes out of my monitors range im kind of buggered. it wont go back to the default one. i did that before and had to format
[03:38] <snowfaked> cfedde: yep. unfortunately i don't remember any of those 'secure p2p' softwares by name
[03:38] <cfedde> tritium: see also ahmad's request of about 90 seconds ago.
[03:38] <penguin5201> anyone know how to fix "No utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh""
[03:38] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, http://pastebin.com/717932
[03:38] <snowfaked> Orborde: yep, although they're almost the same
[03:38] <cfedde> snowfaked: for secure point to point nothing beats plain old ssh
[03:38] <SKARLET> i dont know what do.. becuase i never install a linux program before. i thougt that after install the mbient will be similar windows
[03:38] <snowfaked> Orborde: minor differences in /etc like that rhel/redhats use /etc/sysconfig/ for most of the configuration files
[03:38] <richiefrich> snowfaked, u haveing issues ? with RH
[03:39] <Orborde> needlez: That's very odd. Did you wait the 15 seconds or so for it to set it back automatically? Or did the whole system go belly-up and never come back?
[03:39] <tritium> cfedde: I missed it
[03:39] <cfedde> every unix is different. Every unix is fine.
[03:39] <snowfaked> cfedde: yep, but i recall there were programs that you can use to distribute your warez/child porn/etc useful so that no one can sniff which machine sent it originally
[03:39] <gnosticapex> hymntolife: where does it install to? o.0 sorry, new lin user =)
[03:39] <cfedde> gnutella? BT?
[03:39] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp,  line 105 -->  root        (hd0,0)    i don't see why it's complaining
[03:39] <snowfaked> richiefrich: no, it's working fine. except fedora seemed kind of sluggish compared to this ubuntu. although i hadn't done any hdparm optimizations when i tried but even so
[03:39] <Orborde> cfedde: BT is not anonymous.
[03:40] <HymnToLife> gnosticapex> isn't it somewhere in your Applications menu ?
[03:40] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, i don't either - it doesn't exactly complain -- it just wont boot - it just prints the word grub a million times
[03:40] <cfedde> Orborde: I'm not aware that anonymous is a requirement for p2p
[03:40] <needlez> Orborde, well i clicked on a resolution that apparently was too high, and my monitor (BenQ FP731 17inch LCD) went black with a little box in the middle that said Out Of Range! and it just stayed like that
[03:40] <ahmad> sigh
[03:40] <ahmad> i need a p2p
[03:40] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, u chrooted into your ubuntu
[03:40] <ahmad> i switched from wiindwos hoping for happinesss
[03:40] <abarbaccia_knopp> yes i have
[03:40] <richiefrich> snowfaked, i can suggest something really fast
[03:40] <thrice`> ahmad, and?
[03:40] <ahmad> im happy with the design and efficeny
[03:41] <themaan> hello
[03:41] <Orborde> needlez: It should have reset in about 15 seconds' time...is this a laptop? You could try turning the monitor on and off.
[03:41] <cfedde> ahmad: all happyness springs from windows.
[03:41] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, sudo apt-get install lilo
[03:41] <ahmad> but the complication of gettin p2p
[03:41] <snowfaked> richiefrich: i think even fedora should be fat with this 1.7GHz p-m with gigabyte of memory
[03:41] <HymnToLife> ahmad> buy CDs...
[03:41] <needlez> orborde, this is my desktop PC
[03:41] <Orborde> cfedde: I thought you were asking about anonymous p2p systems.
[03:41] <ahmad> no cfedde if i can get a p2p program i will be happy
[03:41] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, lilo is your alternative
[03:41] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, can i uninstall grub and install it again
[03:41] <ahmad> i ahve cd's
[03:41] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, i've used it before, but prefer grub
[03:41] <thrice`> ahmad, limewire works on linux, as does amule
[03:41] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, u can try yes
[03:41] <thrice`> and bittorrent
[03:41] <cfedde> Orborde: Orborde I was just trolling poor ahmad. Sorry.
[03:41] <snowfaked> although in ubuntu the firefox lags mysteriously... can't think of any reason but e.g. changing tabs seems like it's lagging in between
[03:41] <ahmad> can you help me thrice im a noob at this
[03:41] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, i can help on lilo alsa
[03:41] <Orborde> cfedde: S'okay :)
[03:41] <ahmad> like step by step
[03:42] <thrice`> !limewire
[03:42] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[03:42] <gnosticapex> hymntolife: ah found it, nvm, had to go through app editor  to locate it =)
[03:42] <snowfaked> if anyone has any idea i'm happy to hear. i've tuned hdd parameters with hdparm and added 'noapic nolapic' after my kernel line
[03:42] <needlez> orborde, im not too worried about it anymore, i just wanted all the icons and everything to be smaller (im used to a very high resolution when i used windows) but, i figure i will just get a nice theme or something.
[03:42] <themaan> I have a Problem wiht the hotkeys, I accidentaly set "P" (not caPitolized) as a hot key, now I unset it, and when I Press "P" nothing shows u
[03:42] <themaan> P
[03:42] <snowfaked> (someone suggested it causes lagging with laptops)
[03:42] <richiefrich> snowfaked, i run archlinux/gentoo/RH/ubuntu and arch is the fastest
[03:42] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, great thanks - its telling me /dev/null: permission is denied
[03:42] <Orborde> snowfaked: Are you on AMD64?
[03:42] <snowfaked> nope, pentium m
[03:42] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, wow
[03:42] <ahmad> oh i was trying to do java earlier but when i did the command make-jpkg, it said command failed
[03:42] <cfedde> ahmad: there are some pretty good tutorials for cranking up a bittorrent server.
[03:42] <themaan> does anyone know of any Place I can change my key settings or whatever to fix it
[03:42] <snowfaked> i also installed i686 kernel already
[03:42] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, are u root
[03:42] <thrice`> abarbaccia_knopp, ls -dl /dev/null
[03:43] <calamari> themaan: does this persist through a reboot?
[03:43] <snowfaked> but it seems like i would be running with 256MB of memory on winxp that firefox ;)
[03:43] <ahmad> !java
[03:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:43] <thrice`> !java
[03:43] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich,  crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 May  4 08:14 /dev/null
[03:43] <abarbaccia_knopp> thrice`, crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 May  4 08:14 /dev/null
[03:43] <thrice`> abarbaccia, that's right- are you using sudo ?
[03:43] <thrice`> ahmad, follow that link
[03:43] <abarbaccia_knopp> thrice`, yes
[03:43] <themaan> OH
[03:43] <thrice`> you shouldn't have to compile java yourself
[03:43] <themaan> HAVENT TRIED THAT
[03:43] <thrice`> that's correct, /dev/null SHOULD be 666
[03:43] <Orborde> snowfaked: You could keep an eye on the system monitor while you're doing whatever and see if it gives any clues. I have the system monitor GNOME applet set up with every indicator it has.
[03:44] <themaan> NOW THAT CApS LOCK WONT GO AWAY
[03:44] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, thats weird
[03:44] <calamari> themaan: if that doesn't work, then yes there are some other options
[03:44] <cfedde> ahmad: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/
[03:44] <abarbaccia_knopp> richiefrich, i'm gonna try reboot
[03:44] <richiefrich> abarbaccia_knopp, ok
[03:44] <jonuk> hey everyone
[03:44] <snowfaked> Orborde: does it monitor only cpu usage? i think 1.7GHz should be adequate, at least it runs in winxp smoothly