[04:44] <somenoob93> I have to literally pull out the pen drive then restart without the drive in if I'm to do anything
[04:44] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, i do this on the local or remove ?
[04:44] <Titan8990> somenoob93: are you saying you don't get passed the POST?
[04:45] <mib_5orq9d> how do i get my sound to work in ubuntu?
[04:45] <eternal_> There  is a big difference from 8.04 to 8.10
[04:45] <twois10> what is the konquerorsu kde4/dolphin equivalence? to browse directory as root
[04:45] <Dreamglider> cant i mount the entire disk on the remote machine on this machine ?
[04:45] <somenoob93> yeah. I can't pass it, and I can't even push F9 (to change boot device order) while the pen drive is plugged in. I wonder if there's something to change in bios?
[04:45] <mralexandro> is it possible to disable the swap disk, and if i do. what will i miss of features?
[04:45] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: if you give permissions for your user to access it
[04:46] <botux> Mike_lifeguard: lol ill take my chances
[04:46] <Mike_lifeguard> well, I guess you'd have to mount it just like any other drive
[04:46] <Dreamglider> how
[04:46] <botux> lol ya how
[04:46] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: go to: places -> connect to server     choose ssh
[04:47] <Mike_lifeguard> when I did the "try ubuntu" thing from the installation CD it detected my Windows files just fine
[04:47] <Mike_lifeguard> so... *shrug*
[04:47] <somenoob93> May be back later. Trying to boot from the pen drive again
[04:47] <Dreamglider> on what end. remote or local ?
[04:47] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: is the drive you want to share already mounted?
[04:47] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, yes it's mounted, it's the Ubuntu drive
[04:47] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: the client
[04:48] <botux> im trying to be sure im mounting right im not sure i know how
[04:48] <aaronator> i am need to verify that my current kernel configuration includes certain options, i do not think apt-get will show me this will it?
[04:48] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: you want to share the root filesystem?
[04:48] <AndyML> does anyone know how to manage an LSI MegaRAID SATA 150-6 from inside ubuntu booted up? (vs the bios utility)
[04:49] <SerialNo> hi all
[04:49] <SerialNo> how can i make
[04:49] <SerialNo> transparent main many
[04:49] <itai_> hi, any tips for live cd not booting on ati radeon hd 2400 , it only gets to the "try without change" part
[04:49] <twois10> su
[04:50] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, yea
[04:50] <twois10> wrong place lol
[04:50] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: have to ask why
[04:50] <mib_5orq9d> how can I get sound to work with linux? I have a monitor with speakers in it. my monitor is this: http://america.hannsg.net/onweb.jsp?prod_no=3333333375&webno=3333333375 the drivers are only for vista
[04:50] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, i just want access to it to transfeer files
[04:50] <SerialNo> i want  Applications|Places|System to be transparent
[04:50] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: /home should be more than enough
[04:50] <SerialNo> any help
[04:50] <SerialNo> ?
[04:50] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, it could be a directory on the desktop aswell
[04:51] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: /var if it was a web server
[04:51] <SerialNo> yuuuuuuuuhhhhhuyyyyyyyyyy
[04:51] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: /home includes your desktop
[04:51] <SerialNo> any heeeeeeeelp
[04:51] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, then that's what i want
[04:51] <botux> whats the default ip for samba or how do i find out wht ip mines suing
[04:51] <botux> *using
[04:51] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, Now im on the remote and  at places > connect to server > SSH now what
[04:52] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: put the ipaddress your connecting to in the server box
[04:52] <Dreamglider> ok
[04:52] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: type: /home   for the folder
[04:52] <bgupta> Guessing you guys have seen this?: http://divajutta.com/doctormo/ubunchu/ubunchu-episode-01.pdf
[04:52] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: and then put in the username you use on the machine your connecting to
[04:52] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, Ok
[04:53] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: then you can connect
[04:53] <mib_5orq9d> how can I get sound to work with linux? I have a monitor with speakers in it. my monitor is this: http://america.hannsg.net/onweb.jsp?prod_no=3333333375&webno=3333333375 the drivers are only for vista. are there different drivers for sound and video?
[04:54] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: alsa drivers are for sound
[04:54] <Titan8990> !alsa | mib_5orq9d
[04:54] <Dreamglider> Titan8990, Thanks alot :)
[04:54] <Titan8990> Dreamglider: np
[04:55] <aaronator> is the kernel config just a text file?
[04:56] <twois10> my kdesu command does not work?
[04:57] <twois10> anyone have an ideal why kdesu does not work?
[04:58] <ApOgEE--> i'm trying to bridge two ip segments .. let say, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> to let both segments be able to see each other via my ubuntu box. can anyone point me to the right direction?
[04:58] <mib_5orq9d> Titan8990: there are like 10 options with ALSA in it
[04:58] <ApOgEE--> please
[04:58] <qingbing> hello
[04:58] <herlimenezes> hello
[04:58] <aaronator> hi
[04:58] <qingbing> 大家好
[04:59] <herlimenezes> I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Acer AspireOne, runnin aton processor, but wireless connection is missing
[04:59] <mib_5orq9d> heeelloo>?
[05:00] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: did I point you to the alsa factiod? thats really all I know
[05:00] <qingbing> 忙啥呢都
[05:00] <aaronator> i am following directions on setting up a program and it tells me to ensure my "kernel configuration includes" some options.  how can i do that? is it just a text file i can look in?  where is it?
[05:00] <mib_5orq9d> Titan8990: what command can i run to check to see what sound card i have?
[05:00] <arvind_khadri> !cn | qingbing
[05:01] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: lspci   or ls lshw -v
[05:01] <ron20101> can anybody help with work out my usb mouse in virtual box?
[05:01] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: sorry both with sudo and corrected:   sudo lspci or sudo lshw -v
[05:02] <mib_5orq9d> Titan8990: http://mibbit.com/pb/HntL7X
[05:02] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: looks like you have a soundcard and onboard sound
[05:03] <mib_5orq9d> Titan8990: I do
[05:03] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: which are you using?
[05:03] <mib_5orq9d> the soundcard Titan8990
[05:03] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: don't know much about them but they do their own factoid
[05:04] <Titan8990> !soundblaster | mib_5orq9d
[05:04] <mib_5orq9d> no no
[05:04] <mib_5orq9d> i got it
[05:04] <mib_5orq9d> thanks a lot!
[05:04] <mib_5orq9d> the cord was in the wrong hole
[05:04] <mib_5orq9d> on the sound card
[05:04] <mib_5orq9d> thanks a lot Titan8990 !!
[05:04] <Titan8990> mib_5orq9d: np :)
[05:05] <aaronator> Titan, any more info on this please?
[05:05] <Titan8990> aaronator: sorry, yes its a text file but there is a TUI to search, document, and change it
[05:06] <aaronator> tui?
[05:06] <Titan8990> aaronator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_User_Interface
[05:06] <zionpsyfer> I'm having a heck of a time trying to get pictures off of my camera, neither of my external card readers work.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/146662/
[05:06] <stealth-> while messing with themes in gnome "The current controls theme does not support color schemes". Why is this? It would really look better with color schemes if i could use one.
[05:06] <Titan8990> aaronator: will require build-essentails and ncurses
[05:07] <botux> could someoen tell me how to find out that ip my samba server is usinfg on my ubuntu machine
[05:07] <aaronator> just to look at it?
[05:07] <aaronator> titan, thanks a ton, I will read up on what you gave me
[05:07] <stealth-> botux: ifconfig?
[05:07] <Iceman_B^Ltop> how do I unrar files from the commandline?
[05:07] <Lint01> unrar x -r archive file-mask
[05:07] <Titan8990> !kernel
[05:08] <zionpsyfer> Iceman_B^Ltop: install unrar, command is:  unrar e <filename>
[05:08] <aaronator> !kernel
[05:08] <edogzilla> hello. does anyone know how to get my epson stylus cx4800 printer/scanner to work in 8.04? xsane seems to be of no help at all cuz it doesnt recognize my printer
[05:08] <ynk> well, not sure if this is a down side to installing ubuntu inside windows, but.. i tried to access one of my internal hard drives from Hardy Heron when i was learning how to mount and unmount drives. next thing i know, the drive is WIPED CLEAN! i'm like wtf!! is that supposed to happen?
[05:09] <Lint01> ynk, can you boot into Windows and verify the damage?
[05:09] <Titan8990> aaronator: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile  look at "the old fashioned debian way"
[05:09] <ynk> Lint01, i am currently in windows.. unfortunately.
[05:09] <Titan8990> aaronator: make menuconfig   is the tui I am referring to
[05:09] <Titan8990> aaronator: you can use / to search in it
[05:09] <ynk> Lint01, it seems the only thing that didn't delete itself was ubuntu. -sigh-
[05:10] <botux> stealth: it doesnt show samba or does samba use the same ip as the machine?
[05:10] <aaronator> titan8990: thank you very much for the info, it is appreciated
[05:10] <Titan8990> aaronator: np
[05:10] <edogzilla>  does anyone know how to get my epson stylus cx4800 printer/scanner to work in 8.04? xsane seems to be of no help at all cuz it doesnt recognize my printer
[05:10] <Lint01> ynk, google some undeleting tools
[05:10] <stealth-> botux: i belive it should use the same ip as the machine
[05:10] <ynk> Lint01, i've learned my lesson. i'm going to install Hardy Heron or w/e else i decide along side Windows instead of inside of it.. and just not try to access my windows files while in another operating system.
[05:11] <mothdragon> Hi guys... i'm having trouble getting through to #c++ anybody here familiar enough with c++ programming and vectors to lend a hand?
[05:11] <stealth-> botux: i gave up on samba a while ago, so i might not be right, but i cant see any reason for samba to use a different ip
[05:11] <iceroot> mothdragon: wrong channel
[05:11] <mothdragon> i know... sorry
[05:11] <aaronator> i figured it would be as easy as finding a text file and looking in it
[05:11] <mothdragon> just hoping is all
[05:11] <ynk> Lint01, i think it'll be more trouble than it's worth to try recovering 30+ GBs of datas.
[05:11] <iceroot> mothdragon: you cant join #c++?
[05:12] <flip> hey guys is madwifi dead or somthing?
[05:12] <mothdragon> iceroot: no i keep getting booted saying overflow
[05:12] <ynk> *data
[05:12] <crankharder> where are my pidgin config files stored so I can blow them all away?
[05:12] <bopr> activating proprietary nvidia drivers in my ubuntu causes it to start up 10% of the time without locking up. Any ideas why?
[05:12] <iceroot> mothdragon: hm ok
[05:12] <Titan8990> flip, kinda its now ath5k
[05:12] <wahnfrieden> hi
[05:12] <Titan8990> flip, and ath9k (beta)
[05:12] <wahnfrieden> i need to run an ubuntu server virtualized instance on this windows machine
[05:12] <flip> Titan8990,  can you help me install an atheros using that?
[05:13] <wahnfrieden> how many GB do I need, approximately?
[05:13] <wahnfrieden> of hd space
[05:13] <Titan8990> flip, I still use madwifi
[05:13] <Titan8990> flip, for injection patch
[05:13] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: depending on what you need on ubuntu
[05:13] <flip> the download link to my driver is dead Titan8990  and i cant find it anywhere
[05:13] <Im_Toast> !help gksudo
[05:13] <Im_Toast> !gksudo
[05:13] <Titan8990> !wireless
[05:13] <wahnfrieden> iceroot not much. just to run a web server, with python/django etc
[05:13] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: normally virtualbox is using a dynamic size for hdd
[05:13] <Im_Toast> ah graphical sudo
[05:14] <wahnfrieden> iceroot I ask because I don't have much space free
[05:14] <mbrush> Ok, I've spent the last 2 hours scouring google with many many hits but no fixes, I cannot get audio in Flash.  It took several hours of playing around to get any sound in anything (vlc).  I'm using jaunty that i downloaded a two or three days ago to see how it's coming.  I'm running XFCE.  Anyone have any hints?
[05:14] <twois10> paste!
[05:14] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: 5gb should be the absolut maximum that will need
[05:14] <zionpsyfer> Looking for some help pictures off of a camera or external reader. neither of my external card readers work, camera(rebel xt) isn't recognized.  Suspect udev/hal   /var/log/messages-> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/146662/
[05:14] <wahnfrieden> oh, great
[05:14] <wahnfrieden> thanks
[05:14] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: ubunru + apache and so on
[05:14] <ynk> Lint01, would you recommend simply going to Intrepid or sticky with Hardy Heron a while longer?
[05:14] <ynk> *sticking
[05:14] <wahnfrieden> should i use normal ubuntu, or ubuntu server?
[05:14] <iceroot> ynk: never touch a running system, also 8.04 is LTS
[05:15] <botux> im trying to mount a samba share so i can see it on my windows box can someone assist
[05:15] <Titan8990> flip, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[05:15] <wahnfrieden> also - does it run reasonably well in virtualbox? this is just a 1.8GHz Atom CPU, 2gb ram. not that great
[05:15] <flip> yes im already there
[05:15] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: you need a gui?
[05:15] <Im_Toast> Is Hardy Heron 8.04?
[05:15] <iceroot> Im_Toast: yes
[05:15] <stealth-_> !hardy | Im_Toast
[05:15] <ynk> iceroot, thanks for the tip, buddy.
[05:16] <flip> although it'd prob be easier if you just explained it >.,
[05:16] <stealth-_> Im_Toast: for future reference, you can msg ubottu with factoids and he can answer you in a private message, so your not messaging in the channel
[05:16] <wahnfrieden> iceroot I'm newish to linux so it would probably help. Maybe just something minimal - xfce or something
[05:16] <botux> stealth: im having issues mounting a share do you know how
[05:16] <ynk> iceroot, that doesn't really answer my question though.. LTS means it'll be around a while longer, but what does that make of Intrepid? do the releases become LTS after a while..? i'm not even quite sure how that works.
[05:16] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: try xubuntu
[05:17] <Titan8990> flip, I told you, i haven't set up ath5/9k drivers, i still use madwifi
[05:17] <iceroot> !lts | ynk
[05:17] <wahnfrieden> oh, awesome. thanks
[05:17] <stealth-_> botux: sorry, i gave up on samba a while ago, to much trouble, this might help you, though, one sec
[05:17] <iceroot> ynk: so 8.10 will never get lts
[05:17] <stealth-_> !samba | botux
[05:17] <dumb_dumb> guys how to install serial port on xen with ubuntu server
[05:17] <iceroot> wahnfrieden: its ubuntu with xfce4
[05:17] <twois10>  I get the following boot error, i need help understanding this: http://paste.linuxassist.net/214197
[05:17] <wahnfrieden> thanks
[05:18] <botux> i have my windows shares mounted i need help mounting my ubuntu shares
[05:18] <ynk> iceroot, ah very interesting. so Intrepid will be outdated before Hardy Heron..? (can you tell i love using their nicknames? lol)
[05:18] <Titan8990> twois10: did you enable kernel debugging?
[05:18] <asdf_n00b> Does anyone know whats up with those two weird characters that come after the path when you drag a file into the command line?
[05:18] <iceroot> ynk: yes, 8.10 will be outdated before 8.04
[05:18] <twois10> Titan8990, no
[05:19] <iceroot> ynk: so if 8.04 is running for you, why change to 8.10?
[05:19] <Im_Toast> I just got 8.10 because that's what unetbootin automatically downloaded for me =P
[05:19] <cj_sze> guys... where can i find the inittab file of ubuntu? thanks
[05:19] <ynk> iceroot, i like your logical. makes sense. 'if it ain't broke..'
[05:19] <asdf_n00b> I can't copy them here they show up blank, but they're like squares with some weird writing in them..  It's annoying cause I'm building this database and have to delete the two characters at the end of each path
[05:19] <iceroot> ynk: yes :) never touch a running system
[05:20] <ynk> iceroot, yes sir. never again!
[05:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> the sole reason I'm running 8.10 is because it's awesome codename ^_^
[05:20] <iceroot> Iceman_B^Ltop: i cant pronounce it :(
[05:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> (well, and I left the 8.04 discs at my parents, so why not burn the latest)
[05:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> iceroot: the intrepid part or the ibex part?
[05:21] <iceroot> Iceman_B^Ltop: intrepid
[05:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> haha, tell me thats a joke
[05:21] <iceroot> Iceman_B^Ltop: sounds strange for me (german)
[05:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> ...im dutch
[05:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> its not hard :)
[05:21] <iceroot> Iceman_B^Ltop: but also not nice :)
[05:21] <lacqui> is there an easy way to fix dependencies on about 300 packages?
[05:21] <stealth-_> asdf_n00b: im not getting that effect...
[05:21] <Iceman_B^Ltop> german makes everything sound sinister, and therefore awesome =)
[05:21] <ynk> i wonder if i can unallocate space from one of my HDDs to be used by Hardy Heron for dual booting (..as opposed to an installation inside windows)..
[05:21] <bosco> how do i change a {.dbi} to iso and make it bootable???????
[05:22] <mike_S> hi
[05:22] <botux> smbserver
[05:22] <aaronator> i am just trying to patch iwlagn and am on the preparing the kernel step
[05:22] <stealth-_> !hi | mike_S
[05:22] <asdf_n00b> stealth..  really?  what version are you using. not that I'd see it making a difference but you never know
[05:23] <iceroot> Iceman_B^Ltop: also its easier for say the version like 8.04 instead of the name. e.g. i dont know the version of dapper drake and all the other names
[05:23] <asdf_n00b> oh stealth nvm..  It actually doesnt happen in terminal.. happens in like..  paths in other Software
[05:23] <stealth-_> asdf_n00b: well, if i understand you right, what your doing is grabbing a file and dragging it into the terminal, and when I did that i got the file location with ' around it.
[05:23] <stealth-_> asdf_n00b: ah, file a bug report maybe?
[05:23] <iceroot> stealth-_: its normal
[05:24] <stealth-_> iceroot: why does it happen?
[05:24] <asdf_n00b> What's its purpose though?
[05:24] <iceroot> stealth-_: because of whitespace and so on
[05:24] <mike_S> if there are spaces in the filepath
[05:24] <stealth-_> ah
[05:24] <asdf_n00b> hunh..  but the path doesn't work with those extra 2 characters though
[05:24] <iceroot> stealth-_: your file.jpg or 'your file.jpg'
[05:24] <Iceman_B^Ltop> iceroot: pm
[05:25] <stealth-_> iceroot: what about them?
[05:25] <stealth-_> iceroot: your refering to the spaces?
[05:25] <stealth-_> iceroot: never mind i ask quests before i think about them....
[05:26] <stealth-_> iceroot: lol
[05:26] <mike_S> lol
[05:28] <mattgyver83> Is it possible to map a USB storage device as a network drive and still unmount it?
[05:28] <stealth-_> does anyone have any questions???
[05:28] <botux> when mounting samba shares im getting mount error 112 = Host is down
[05:28] <botux>  any ideas why
[05:28] <stealth-_> there we go
[05:29] <stealth-_> botux: can you ping the host to actually confirm its up and has a samba port open?
[05:29] <ron20101> help me resolve usb mouse issue in virtualbox
[05:29] <botux> stealth: just ping localhost?
[05:29] <stealth-_> ron20101: explain your question, if someone knows the answer, they will answer you
[05:29] <ron20101> ic
[05:30] <stealth-_> botux: your trying to mount a samba share on your own machine?
[05:30] <ron20101> ok... in virtualbox 2.1.4 i cant get usb mouse to detect in windows
[05:30] <botux> stealth: dont i have to to get it to show up on my windows box
[05:30] <ron20101> i have ubuntu ibex as my host
[05:30] <aaronator_> I am trying to patch iwlagn and am on the step of preparing the kernel, how can i see if my kernel config contains the listed options?
[05:31] <stealth-_> botux: um... Im either way more unfamiliar with samba than i thought, or your doing something wrong..
[05:31] <thahauss> Can someone please advise the best program that will allow me to format a slaved drive in ubuntu 9.04?
[05:31] <stealth-_> botux: your trying to mount a samba share on the same machine its hosted so you can access it from another machine?
[05:32] <botux> stealth: right
[05:32] <iceroot> thahauss: there is no best, but try gparted
[05:32] <botux> stealth: am i goofy
[05:32] <stealth-_> botux: is this involving any VM's?
[05:32] <Mocs> Does anyone know anything about Ultima Online free shard servers?
[05:32] <botux> stealth: whats vm
[05:32] <stealth-_> botux: i dont know, im not very familiar with samba, but it sounds wierd to me
[05:32] <thahauss> Iceman_B^Ltop, TY ice will do
[05:32] <stealth-_> botux: virtual machine. it lets you run a computer inside a computer... kinda
[05:33] <botux> stealth: no vm's
[05:33] <botux> Stealth separate machine
[05:33] <Mocs> Reason I ask, I am thinking of setting one up, don't know which one will run best on Ubuntu 8.10
[05:33] <stealth-_> botux: are you following a tutorial or something?
[05:33] <botux> stealth: no
[05:34] <stealth-_> botux: i would probably advise that, cause past that i cant really help much. Sorry :(
[05:34] <botux> stealth: i tried reading the howtos but they are like greek to me i dont understand them
[05:34] <stealth-_> botux: maybe someone else here has more experience with samba, but i gave up in frustration with it.....
[05:34] <stealth-_> botux: did you try the ones i gave you earlier?
[05:35] <pr0t0c0n> i have a question , is it possible to run multiple programs while in console mode
[05:35] <Mocs> samba is a strange animal... I got it to work once, but not without much struggle...
[05:35] <stealth-_> pr0t0c0n: console mode? you mean no GUI?
[05:35] <pr0t0c0n> yea
[05:35] <Mocs> pr0t: yeah, use different terminals... <alt>1 <alt>2
[05:35] <Mocs> pr0t: or run them in background
[05:36] <stealth-_> pr0t0c0n: then yes, just move over to a different terminal or use screen. ctrl+alt+F# where # is a terminal number
[05:36] <stealth-_> !screen | pr0t0c0n
[05:36] <pr0t0c0n> ok thnx ok thnx
[05:36] <pr0t0c0n> srry
[05:36] <stealth-_> pr0t0c0n: id advise using different terminals though, screen is a bit harder to figure out
[05:37] <Mocs> pr0t: don't be sorry... asking is the only way to learn
[05:37] <botux> stealth: i used the ones you gave me
[05:37] <pr0t0c0n> so i just type alt#1 while in the console ?
[05:37] <gauravkittz> i have to type modprobe ath5k on startup every time to get my wifi on
[05:37] <stealth-> pr0t0c0n: no
[05:38] <gauravkittz> is ther any other way
[05:38] <Mocs> pr0t: alt f1... alt f2
[05:38] <stealth-> pr0t0c0n: press the buttons: ctrl+alt+F# where # is a number of a terminal
[05:38] <stealth-> Mocs: you dont need to press ctrl?
[05:38] <Mocs> stealth: nope
[05:38] <juanefren> HOw do I share a folder using command line ? (ubuntu server)
[05:38] <stealth-> Mocs: huh. good to know.
[05:38] <pr0t0c0n> ok let me try brb
[05:38] <Mocs> stealth: just did it... ubuntu box is next to this one...
[05:39] <stealth-> Mocs: yeah, ctrl is only nessesary if leaving GUI. Thanks for the tip
[05:39] <sombir> help on ubuntu ??
[05:39] <stealth-> sombir: this is the ubuntu support channel, yes.
[05:39] <Mocs> now... back to UO... anyone ever set one up?  I looked at SunUO, but that hasn't been updated since 2005...
[05:39] <aaronator_> there are like 500 kconfig files, what is the location of the one with the wireless settings?
[05:40] <ruben231> hi i installed a tarball program how do i uninstall it..
[05:41] <Madpilot> sombir, just ask your question, someone will help if they can
[05:41] <Mocs> 1192-1658-3499-2900-0527-5083
[05:42] <Mocs> oops... sorry, that's a dreamweaver key if anyone needs it...
[05:42] <sombir> i need help un port scanner
[05:42] <Mocs> ok, no UO fans here... oh well...
[05:42] <Mocs> l8r all
[05:44] <botux> i think i may have gotten the server to work just not sure how to test it
[05:44] <botux> anybody know how to see samba shares on windows machine
[05:45] <thahauss> I'm running ubuntu 9.04 and am using Gparted to format a slave drive, my question lies in the format of the partition table, the default is MSDOS do i need to change this for any reason?
[05:45] <dijikul> if I wanted to write a script that called a certain URL and then add it to cron to run at certain intervals, what would be the command I'd use to call the http request from the cli?
[05:45] <clearscreen> !jaunty | thahauss
[05:46] <clearscreen> dijikul: wget
[05:46] <iter> dijikul: either wget or curl
[05:50] <kimerop> hi
[05:50] <kimerop> hi
[05:50] <TheShahFactor> hello kimerop
[05:50] <kimerop> hello theshahfactor
[05:50] <dumb_dumb> guys need help with xen & ubuntu server
[05:50] <dumb_dumb> any one could help me?
[05:50] <dumb_dumb> thanks before
[05:51] <flip> dumb_dumb,  what you need help with
[05:51] <kimerop> some watch movie matrix I,II,III
[05:51] <kimerop> :D
[05:51] <dumb_dumb> flip: i need to enabled the serial port (/dev/ttyS0) so that the guess OS can used that port
[05:51] <flip> Okay guys i have a major problem its not really that big of deal just rather annoying when i open a window then try to click to another window it wont let me i have to actually minimize the other window for example im on xchat now and i have a terminal open when i switch to terminal then try to click the xchat window it wont let me click the it
[05:51] <flip> guest os dumb_dumb
[05:52] <flip> umm
[05:52] <flip> cant really help ya there
[05:52] <meoblast001> does ClamAV check for Windows viruses too?
[05:52] <dumb_dumb> thats ok flip
[05:52] <dumb_dumb> i`m trying to install sms gateway server on xen
[05:52] <jomo2010> any recommendation to running itunes in ubuntu?
[05:53] <meoblast001> jomo2010: don't do it?
[05:53] <aaronator_> wine?
[05:53] <meoblast001> jomo2010: doesn't run that well
[05:53] <TheShahFactor> flip : have u enabled the option "always on top
[05:53] <jomo2010> so wine itunes?
[05:53] <meoblast001> jomo2010: yes.. but why would you want to run it?
[05:53] <jomo2010> or is there better substitued that will do podcast?
[05:53] <flip> TheShahFactor,  i dont think so where would i go to check
[05:53] <kimerop> mpeg to mp4 ?
[05:54] <jomo2010> and sync my itouch
[05:54] <thurston> Hi, I am new to IRC and to Ubuntu. Can anyone guide me where I need to go to report a bug?
[05:54] <meoblast001> jomo2010: i can't get it to detct my iPod so i'm not sure if you'll get better luck
[05:54] <aaronator_> i do not have an ipod, but i dont see why it woudlnt work
[05:54] <leoXsys> thurston: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu, But better you joined the #ubuntu-bugs Channel to get the more info.
[05:54] <Lartza_> Assuming that I need to run some server behind my ubuntu gateway, I need to forward the port to the computer behind with iptables?
[05:55] <flip> ?
[05:55] <majortool> what's the best program for viewing my web cam
[05:55] <majortool> just locally
[05:55] <leoXsys> majnoon: Cheese
[05:55] <leoXsys> majortool: sudo apt-get install cheese
[05:56] <jomo2010> i just need to sync with my itouch and download podcast stuff
[05:56] <meoblast001> majortool: if you ever want to try flash with your webcam.... WebCamStudio is nice
[05:56] <cj_sze> where can i find the inittab file of ubuntu 8.04 desktop ?
[05:56] <majortool> thanks
[05:56] <meoblast001> jomo2010: Rhythmbox works with podcasts
[05:56] <meoblast001> jomo2010: iTouch... i think we all have to play the waiting game with that
[05:56] <flip> TheShahFactor,  ??? please its really annoying
[05:56] <jomo2010> and it will sycn
[05:57] <botux> can anyone help with samba
[05:58] <sombir> is ubuntu 9.04 out ???
[05:58] <botux> no april 23rd
[05:59] <leoXsys> cj_sze: Check http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/2654-ubuntu-set-default-runlevel-etc-inittab.html
[05:59] <leoXsys> botux: What is the problem?
[05:59] <flip> Okay guys i have a major problem its not really that big of deal just rather annoying when i open a window then try to click to another window it wont let me i have to actually minimize the other window for example im on xchat now and i have a terminal open when i switch to terminal then try to click the xchat window it wont let me click the it
[05:59] <cj_sze> leoXsys: thanks i will check that
[05:59] <leoXsys> sombir: Ubuntu 9.04 final would be out on 23rd April, 2009, But you can enjoy the BETA Version
[05:59] <botux> leoXsys: im trying to see my shares from my ubuntu machine on my vista box
[06:00] <Im_Toast> What is the next lts version?
[06:00] <aaronator_> in reference to the kernel config, what does [M] mean?
[06:00] <aaronator_> [M] and [*]
[06:01] <leoXsys> Im_Toast: Every two yer, So 8.04 was in 2008/4, so next would be in 2010/4 i guess :)
[06:01] <leoXsys> aaronator_: [M] means module, Kernel will build the module for that one which you can insert later after booting the kernel :)
[06:01] <borgista> "   	 	 	 	 	 	   A central wisdom peers within a doubtless sunshine.  "
[06:02] <botux> leoXsys: im having all kinds of trouble
[06:02] <leoXsys> botux: How you are trying?
[06:03] <CompCrash> anyone one else have issues with the update manager?
[06:03] <leoXsys> botux: On Desktop, Go-to -> Places -> Netwrok
[06:03] <aaronator_> leoxsys: thanks, i am trying to patch iwlagn and part of the process is ensuring my kernel config contains certain options, how can i do this?
[06:04] <CompCrash> the password confirmation doesnt come up
[06:04] <leoXsys> Commo-work: I think, it will not come up, It will only come while you will do any up gradation...
[06:05] <sYskk> what is a good tool for visualizing disk usage ? ps: I don't have a GUI on my ubuntu box, so Id like something that would work remotely
[06:05] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Yes, you can do it as [M], then maker sure it get loaded while booting.
[06:05] <lstarnes> CompCrash: unless it is updating something or checking for new updates it won't need administrative permissions
[06:05] <flip> Okay guys i have a major problem its not really that big of deal just rather annoying when i open a window then try to click to another window it wont let me i have to actually minimize the other window for example im on xchat now and i have a terminal open when i switch to terminal then try to click the xchat window it wont let me click the it  no i donot have always ontop option set
[06:05] <CompCrash> it always asks
[06:05] <aaronator_> leoxsys: i havent a clue as to how to do that.  can you give me a link to somewhere that explains this?
[06:06] <lstarnes> CompCrash: if you used something else that required administrative permissions within a few minutes of running the update manager, it might not ask for a password
[06:06] <CompCrash> and the window doesnt come and then there is no updates
[06:06] <unko> hey guys. i have a simple question. my monitor can go up too 100 hz but it won't let me go past 60 hz how can i override it so i can get it to 75 hz??????
[06:06] <botux> leoXsys: ok im there
[06:06] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Wait a minute...
[06:06] <flip> Okay guys i have a major problem its not really that big of deal just rather annoying when i open a window then try to click to another window it wont let me i have to actually minimize the other window for example im on xchat now and i have a terminal open when i switch to terminal then try to click the xchat window it wont let me click the it  no i donot have always ontop option set
[06:07] <aaronator_> leoxsys: also i believe the kconfig i need to alter is located at /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/net/wireless . is this the correct kconfig to alter?
[06:07] <leoXsys> botux: So, it has detected the the machine, which is part of the network?
[06:07] <botux> yes
[06:07] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Yes, I think so, where is the source located?
[06:08] <leoXsys> botux: Can you see your Visa machine?
[06:08] <aaronator_> leoxsys: source?
[06:08] <botux> leoXsys: yes its there and when i click on it it says unable to mount
[06:09] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Source of the Kernel?
[06:09] <leoXsys> botux: Or driver?
[06:09] <leoXsys> botux: Ok...Hmm...
[06:09] <aaronator_> leoxsys: i dont know..... sorry i am a noob
[06:09] <botux> leoXsys whats Or driver?
[06:09] <leoXsys> aaronator_: ok...
[06:10] <leoXsys> botux: Are you on intrepid?
[06:10] <botux> leoXsys: im on 8.10
[06:10] <leoXsys> Ok
[06:11] <leoXsys> botux: I think vista must be using NTFS?
[06:11] <bl4ckc00k1e> hi
[06:11] <botux> leoXsys: yes it id
[06:11] <botux> is
[06:11] <unko> hey guys. i have a simple question. my monitor can go up too 100 hz but it won't let me go past 60 hz how can i override it so i can get it to 75 hz??????
[06:12] <leoXsys> botux: Can you install / check NTFS support with 8.10, or just do sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g on CLI
[06:12] <pan__> mc(midnight commander) do not work well in the screen session,anyone can help me ?
[06:13] <sombir> help ????????????/
[06:13] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Can you try this link for more information http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[06:13] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[06:13] <spaceBARbarian> whats a good .rar extractor for ubuntu ?
[06:13] <botux> leoXsys: its downloading now
[06:14] <x1101> unrar
[06:14] <pan__> mc work well,but do not work well in a screen session
[06:14] <aaronator_> leoxsys: ok thank you. just to be sure - I have to actually modifiy the kernel to get tthis driver patched??
[06:14] <pan__> the table line is not aligned
[06:14] <leoXsys> aaronator_: Yes, I can understand, it will help.
[06:15] <aaronator_> leoxsys: thanks a lot sir.  you are a gret help
[06:15] <leoXsys> spaceBARbarian: By default Ubuntu is supporting, You want something with high compression ratio?
[06:15] <pan__> mc(midnight commander) work well,but it do not work well in a screen session:the table line is not aligned
[06:16] <spaceBARbarian> leoXsys: no i am just trying to extract a .rar and i get unsupported archive
[06:16] <botux> leoXsys: it says its already on here where is it normally?
[06:17] <ruben231> hi does ekiga support g729 codec..?
[06:18] <leoXsys> botux: Hmm....
[06:18] <leoXsys> botux: Means, it's already installed.
[06:18] <botux> leoXsys: right but idunno how to access it
[06:21] <k1en> hi, live cd will not boot on my pc (8.10) after the "try without changes to your computer" it just goes black
[06:21] <Ketrel> I installed Ubuntu on a laptop and I can get wireless to work at all
[06:21] <Ketrel> from the GUI
[06:21] <Ketrel> I can do it with iwconfig and dhclient
[06:22] <raylu> Ketrel: did you just install the wireless drivers? or did you never do that yourself?
[06:22] <Ketrel> Fresh install
[06:22] <Ketrel> installed nothing yet
[06:22] <raylu> Ketrel: try restarting network manager. sudo invoke-rc.d NetworkManger restart
[06:23] <Ketrel> raylu: ok, from there, what do I do to add a wireless network to it?
[06:23] <raylu> Ketrel: m... when you connect to one, i think it automatically creates one.
[06:23] <Ketrel> connect to one HOW
[06:23] <raylu> Ketrel: you can also right-click for a different menu than the left-click one
[06:23] <raylu> Ketrel: left-click on ti
[06:24] <raylu> Ketrel: *it
[06:24] <Ketrel> so it won't detect networks?
[06:24] <Ketrel> I'd always have to manually enter the ssid?
[06:24] <raylu> Ketrel: oh, sometimes right after it starts it takes a bit to get the network list
[06:24] <raylu> Ketrel: you can prod it with "sudo iwlist scan"
[06:24] <botux> leoXsys: any ideas?
[06:25] <Ketrel> raylu I'm trying to give this to someone who has no idea how to use command line
[06:25] <leoXsys> botux: I am thinking...
[06:25] <botux> leoXsys: sorry
[06:25] <leoXsys> botux: It's ok.
[06:25] <Ketrel> raylu anyways: 'wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning : network is down'
[06:26] <raylu> Ketrel: oh fun. i never did figure out what that error meant
[06:26] <raylu> Ketrel: perhaps your wireless card isn't switched on?
[06:26] <Ketrel> raylu: then using iwconfig and dhclient wouldn't work would it
[06:26] <raylu> Ketrel: dhclient connects to the network properly?
[06:27] <thedarkone> hello
[06:27] <Ketrel> yes, I said that at the beginning, GUI isn't working, but command line is
[06:27] <thedarkone> my menu.lst went blank any way to fix it
[06:27] <leoXsys> botux: I have not tried using SAMBA, But i am checking support...
[06:27] <raylu> thedarkone: update-grub
[06:27] <zionpsyfer> Ketrel:  wicd? seems to fix those issues, not sure if we're allowed to recommend though.
[06:28] <thedarkone> how raylu
[06:28] <botux> leoXsys: ok just so you know i mapped the vist shares on my desktop so that part is good i juts cant see the samba shares on my vista machine
[06:28] <Ketrel> ok, it just stopped working >.<
[06:28] <xim_> is there an easy way in ubuntu to print a large image that is multiple pages, like a banner, in chunks on seperate pages that you could tape together?  without manually cutting up the image in gimp
[06:28] <Ketrel> since there is no manual switch on it, is there any way to enable the card if it was off?
[06:28] <leoXsys> botux: Ohhh!!!!
[06:29] <leoXsys> botux: My bad time :(
[06:29] <botux> leoXsys: sorry i didnt think i explained that right the first time
[06:29] <raylu> thedarkone: that's the name of a command. run it
[06:30] <leoXsys> botux: It's ok, Mistake makes the man perfect :)
[06:30] <raylu> Ketrel: is it like a fn+[random key] switch?
[06:30] <botux> leoXsys: lol right
[06:30] <raylu> apropos makes man perfect
[06:30] <thedarkone> i hit c and put that in i get error 27
[06:30] <raylu> thedarkone: who are you talking to?
[06:30] <thedarkone> unrecognized command
[06:30] <thedarkone> u raylu
[06:31] <raylu> thedarkone: oh. please put my name in front. why'd you hit c?
[06:31] <ubuntu__> anyone in here using 9.04 beta? I having some issues being able to log into X after install ati drivers
[06:31] <raylu> !jaunty | ubuntu__
[06:31] <thedarkone> raylu when i boot only thing that comes up in grub is memtest86+
[06:32] <Ketrel> raylu: yes, but I haven't added anything for keyboard so I'd assume it'd have no effect
[06:32] <dye_bc> uvdgadhd
[06:32] <thedarkone> raylu i hit c for command line
[06:32] <dye_bc> ;jasd;jadf
[06:32] <dye_bc> pajoawfoiha
[06:32] <dye_bc> ojsdf;onasd;fasd
[06:32] <leoXsys> botux: Check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=912814
[06:32] <raylu> thedarkone: oh. i thought you had already booted. is the problem you can't boot?
[06:32] <dye_bc> pojifojfoiqw wefoijqw ohfvgq
[06:32] <thedarkone> raylu yes
[06:32] <dye_bc> nak mna    ?"
[06:32] <raylu> Ketrel: actually, on most laptops, that's handled by hardware
[06:32] <thedarkone> raylu can not boot
[06:32] <raylu> Ketrel: fn+[random key for touchpad] is like that too. try pressing it and running "sudo dmesg | tail"
[06:33] <raylu> thedarkone: do you have a livecd/liveusb/etc. available?
[06:33] <Ketrel> raylu: nope, it's not on this, I just tried enabling scroll lock which is a fn+key but no effect
[06:33] <thedarkone> not here
[06:33] <raylu> thedarkone: that's going to be kinda difficult then.
[06:34] <thedarkone> raylu when i get a live cd what should i do
[06:34] <rwparris2> is there a good small image editor for ubuntu?  not gimp, I want something more like the online app picnik, except for the desktop
[06:34] <raylu> thedarkone: i would just re-install grub using one of the various guides. personally, that means mount the linux install and use "grub-install /dev/sd[whatever] --root-directory=[mount point]"
[06:35] <raylu> rwparris2: by small, you mean like mspaint?
[06:35] <rwparris2> yes
[06:35] <raylu> Ketrel: but that's not handled by hardware. or rather, it is but it's passed as a key to software
[06:35] <raylu> rwparris2: tuxpaint. also a few others. aptitude search paint
[06:36] <CompCrash> what do i use in the terminal to install updates
[06:36] <botux> leoXsys: that all you found?
[06:36] <lstarnes> CompCrash: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:36] <raylu> thedarkone: on the other hand, do you know when you last upgraded your kernel?
[06:36] <leoXsys> botux: Yes :(
[06:36] <lstarnes> CompCrash: prior to doing that, you may need to do sudo apt-get update
[06:36] <raylu> thedarkone: or the kernel version :D
[06:36] <raylu> CompCrash: apt-get or aptitude?
[06:37] <Ketrel> raylu I've tried it with no luck, is there anything else I could try? (It's a Dell Latitude D600 and I already tried modprobing ndiswrapper)
[06:37] <CompCrash> mikenot
[06:37] <botux> leoXsys: thanks for helping ill chekc that out
[06:37] <CompCrash> wrong chat
[06:37] <leoXsys> botux: Sorry, I am also newbie...
[06:37] <raylu> Ketrel: er, what wireless card? latitudes use intel chipsets which are well support by iwl, i thought
[06:38] <CompCrash> i did aptitude and it only found them but not install
[06:38] <raylu> CompCrash: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:38] <botux> leoXsys: its ok lol i think with linux everyone is a newbie theres always something to learn
[06:38] <raylu> CompCrash: or safe-upgrade, if you prefer
[06:38] <Ketrel> raylu: I'm not sure how to check
[06:39] <raylu> Ketrel: lspci
[06:39] <CompCrash> i'm sick of the update manager or synaptic package manager not working right
[06:39] <Ketrel> frak, it's a broadcom
[06:39] <CompCrash> since 8.10 they dont always work
[06:40] <raylu> Ketrel: lspci -v will show the modules its using
[06:40] <raylu> Ketrel: which would be useful :D
[06:41] <Ketrel> Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 03)
[06:41] <spaceBARbarian> is there any program i can use to install microsoft office in ubuntu ?
[06:41] <jomo2010> anybody know how to change background color to workspace switcher area?
[06:41] <raylu> botux, leoXsys: there's no need for ntfs support
[06:41] <FiReSTaRT> does anyone know a way to open pdf 1.7 documents in ubuntu?
[06:41] <raylu> botux: but samba is basically a pain. try "smbclient -L"
[06:41] <scunizi> spaceBARbarian: what do you need there that openoffice doesn't do?
[06:42] <FiReSTaRT> other than downloading the acrobat binary
[06:42] <coolmadmax> spaceBARbarian use openoffice 3.0
[06:42] <raylu> FiReSTaRT: can you give me a pdf 1.7 document?
[06:42] <raylu> Ketrel: and the module
[06:42] <raylu> ?
[06:42] <FiReSTaRT> raylu: sure.. ill give u a link
[06:42] <spaceBARbarian> scunizi: i am too used to msoffice, dont feel like switching
[06:42] <dffsd> anyone good with c++ here?
[06:43] <raylu> spaceBARbarian: but you feel like switching your entire OS?
[06:43] <raylu> dffsd: wrong channel for that
[06:43] <dffsd> #ubuntu-programming is of no help
[06:43] <brunner> what's the command for that curses kernel configuration tool?
[06:43] <Ketrel> raylu: I think it's ssb
[06:43] <raylu> dffsd: there's probably #c++. what do you need?
[06:43] <_motti__> hi guys. where can I ask/suggest a feature for the next ubuntu release?
[06:43] <dffsd> i need help wiith run-time type identification
[06:43] <botux> raylu: its asking for parameters
[06:44] <raylu> botux: do you know the hostname/ip of the machine that has the files shared?
[06:44] <FiReSTaRT> raylu : link sent via pm
[06:44] <raylu> _motti__: file a bugreport and mark it as feature
[06:44] <raylu> FiReSTaRT: as far as i can tell, that's a pdf telling you you need a newer pdf reader
[06:44] <scunizi> spaceBARbarian: I've used both for years and don't find many things that oo won't do.. menu's are close and unless you're using a lot of the higher functions it's hardly worth running office in wine... if the version you have will work
[06:44] <botux> raylu: its my ubuntu machine which im on
[06:45] <raylu> botux: oh. then why do you need samba? smbclient -L localhost
[06:45] <Ketrel> raylu: kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge (if that's what you wanted)
[06:45] <raylu> Ketrel: yeah...
[06:45] <raylu> Ketrel: things starting with b43 usually involve pain
[06:45] <_motti__> raylu, is it for real? there is no "formal" way for the community to toss around ideas?
[06:45] <raylu> _motti__: #ubuntu-dev
[06:45] <FiReSTaRT> raylu: that's because document viewer/OOo can only open pdf 1.4... pdf 1.7 is relatively new
[06:45] <scunizi> spaceBARbarian: actually abiword is a breath of fresh air.. fast, lean and very functional..
[06:46] <raylu> _motti__: and yes, for real. there are thousands of bugs and feature requests. dealing with them all at once in the form of chat is not productive
[06:46] <Ketrel> raylu is there anything I could do in that case
[06:46] <botux> raylu: because i wanna see my ubuntu shares on my vvista box
[06:46] <raylu> FiReSTaRT: there is no reason evince or whatever linux pdf reader you are using would tell you to go visit the adobe website
[06:46] <FiReSTaRT> raylu: i could install the acrobat but i'd like to see if OOo or Document Viewer can be patched to open that format
[06:46] <raylu> botux: who uses the vista box? to avoid pain, i'd recommend getting an sftp/scp client on the vista box
[06:47] <botux> raylu: i just got Connection to localhost failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[06:47] <raylu> Ketrel: i've never gotten a broadcom car fully working
[06:47] <spaceBARbarian> scunizi: i do use a lot of higher functions, including visio and equations etc
[06:47] <FiReSTaRT> raylu: there is if the document contains some embedded binary crap that they can't open
[06:47] <raylu> Ketrel: *card. i've gotten bits and pieces of connectivity at best
[06:47] <botux> raylu when i used the command you sent me
[06:47] <Ketrel> damn, that's not good :(
[06:47] <raylu> FiReSTaRT: not... really. what are you trying to view ont hat website
[06:47] <spaceBARbarian> scunizi: is there anything other than crossover that is known to run office ?
[06:47] <Sir_Brizz> does anyone know how to get audio working properly on a laptop? I have muted the sound from the ubuntu menu but it still plays the boot sound and sounds for pidgin
[06:47] <Sir_Brizz> \it's really annoying
[06:47] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: Doc Viewer should (which is evince) .. also scribus will, and possibly xpdf
[06:47] <raylu> botux: i have no idea, sorry. can you answer my earlier question?
[06:48] <_motti__> raylu, I'm sure of that. But filing a bug is like entering through the next door. Isn't there an equivalent for bug report in the features field?
[06:48] <botux> raylu: which one lol
[06:48] <raylu> _motti__: yes... technically, the 'bug tracker' is an issue tracker
[06:48] <raylu> _motti__: and issues include feature requests
[06:48] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: it doesn't though.. i downloaded the file tried to open it both with evince and OOo, same crap
[06:48] <raylu> botux:  1:46:56       raylu> botux: who uses the vista box? to avoid pain, i'd recommend getting an sftp/scp client on the vista box
[06:48] <scunizi> spaceBARbarian: just straight wine should depending on the version.. if you really use a lot of visio stuff maybe running office in a VM of windows
[06:49] <syntax\> lo, how can i add a network printer in ubuntu? same goes with a dot matrix printer?
[06:49] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: have you tried xpdf?
[06:49] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/aps/tps664.pdf
[06:49] <FiReSTaRT> ill give it a shot
[06:49] <botux> raylu: lol oh i do and i want to be able to share my music and video files between the 2
[06:49] <Ketrel> raylu: is there any way to get it to work? This kinda throws a wrench in my plans for a bday gift
[06:49] <mudit> hi, i am trying to convert a file in ffmpeg, i get this error >> Unknown codec libmp3lame
[06:49] <botux> whats an sftp/scp client
[06:49] <Sir_Brizz> botux: can't you use samba?
[06:50] <raylu> botux: then, to avoid pain, i'd recommend getting an sftp/scp client for vista. filezilla and winscp are good choices
[06:50] <raylu> botux: then, simply set up openssh-server (read: install and you're done)
[06:50] <botux> Sir_Brizz: if it would work
[06:50] <raylu> Sir_Brizz: he can, but he's having trouble setting it up. and i've never gotten that working faster than scp
[06:50] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: same problem with xpdf
[06:51] <Sir_Brizz> yeah but it sounds like he wants to mount it on Vista, not just copy files around
[06:51] <_motti__> raylu, I went to the bug tracker website and they don't mention the feature asking as an option
[06:51] <raylu> scunizi: as far as i can tell, it's actually a pdf that tells you to go get adobe acrobat, not an app-generated error message
[06:51] <botux> Sir_Brizz: i cant see the samba shares on my vista box
[06:51] <raylu> scunizi: http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/aps/tps664.pdf
[06:51] <botux> Siir_Brizz: Bingo sir
[06:51] <raylu> Sir_Brizz: have you ever gotten samba working?
[06:52] <Sir_Brizz> I haven't tried to set it up dfor a while
[06:52] <raylu> Ketrel: i'm sure it's _possible_
[06:52] <scunizi> raylu: yea.. strange. I've downloaded it and I'm trying scribus...
[06:52] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: yea.. just found that out
[06:52] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: installing scribus now.
[06:52] <Ketrel> raylu: is there anywhere with a tutorial?
[06:53] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys i'm looking for someone who can help me with the community documentation
[06:53] <botux> Sir_Brizz: all of the howtos are like greek to me'
[06:53] <Doitle> Anyone here ever read from hardware RTC in Linux?
[06:53] <FiReSTaRT> im installing libgnupdf0 it should have pdf 1.7 support
[06:53] <pace_t_zulu> anyone here involved in community documentation?
[06:53] <bobgill_> how do I copy the file that a symbolic link is pointing to??
[06:54] <raylu> !wifi | Ketrel
[06:55] <_motti__> ok, thanks
[06:55] <Sir_Brizz> botux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:56] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: raylu got it.. Adobereader 8 from the medibuntu repo's opens it fine.
[06:56] <raylu> scunizi: strange... perhaps that's a feature of pdfs - to show that message
[06:56] <scunizi> raylu: first time I've even seen that.
[06:57] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: i know.. i was hoping to avoid installing it.. always found it to be a resource-hog
[06:57] <raylu> adobe reader is software i avoid even in windows =\
[06:57] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: thanks.. i guess ill be forced to install it and then remove it :)
[06:57] <raylu> bobgill_: it happens transparently, that's the point
[06:57] <KoolD> how do i remove an application previously installed with 'make-install'
[06:57] <raylu> KoolD: you mean 'make install'?
[06:57] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: yea.. I hate doing that too
[06:58] <KoolD> yup
[06:58] <raylu> KoolD: some makefiles have uninstall, so "make uninstall"
[06:58] <mudit> relaxed: there is no package as lame-dev !
[06:58] <rrowell> so FloodBot is aking over it looks like?
[06:58] <Doitle> if I have a directory too big to see the entire ls in a terminal window is there any way I can set it to feed a page at a time like less
[06:58] <Doitle> I tried less ls -l and it didnt work
[06:58] <raylu> Doitle: shift+pageup
[06:58] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: ah well.. in any case i'll be doing a clean install of jaunty in case there's any left-over crap :P
[06:58] <raylu> Doitle: ls | less
[06:58] <KoolD> raylu: so there is no way if they dont have uninstall
[06:59] <raylu> KoolD: correct. you could rm them... manually...
[06:59] <bobgill_> raylu: what do you mean? I have filenames that are all numbers (date/times) with symbolic links in another folder where they are named and identifiable..  The WorkplaceSwitcherApplet won't appear. According to gconf_editor I have ~20 instances of it on the top panel but none of them show.
[07:00] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: i'm hoping jaunty will fix that and the nvidia hdmi sound streaming issue
[07:00] <raylu> bobgill_: and you want to copy some of the files, identifying by their human readable names, but with the original numeric file names?
[07:00] <botux> Sir_Brizz: should it be listed there when i run that command
[07:01] <Sir_Brizz> yeah
[07:01] <Doitle> Also how do I add to my paths file and not overwrite it?
[07:01] <Sir_Brizz> there is some way to look inside gnome, but I'm completely inept at it :)
[07:01] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: that would be nice.. I put a new motherboard in my machine in Dec with hdmi and haven't tried it yet.. however to install and to continue to boot  I have to have pci=nomsi on the kernel line
[07:01] <XiaolinDraconis> hello room
[07:01] <raylu> Doitle: paths... file? you mean $PATH variable?
[07:01] <Doitle> yeah
[07:01] <bobgill_> raylu: I want to copy some, yes, but they don't have to be the original numeric file name.. I just want to be able to copy them by looking at the symlinks, rather than seeing where they point to, memorizing, cd'ing back and copying that way
[07:01] <Doitle> I modified it before but accidentally overwrote it instead of adding to it
[07:01] <raylu> Doitle: export PATH=$PATH:/asdf/jkl/
[07:01] <Doitle> and so could not use any shell functionality
[07:02] <raylu> bobgill_: well.. you can already do that
[07:02] <botux> Sir_Brizz its not there heres what i get (http://rafb.net/p/BELC5t34.html)
[07:02] <XiaolinDraconis> <--- is linux virgin
[07:02] <raylu> bobgill_: touch a && ln -s a b && cp b c
[07:02] <raylu> bobgill_: will make a copy of a called c
[07:02] <raylu> !hi | XiaolinDraconis
[07:03] <XiaolinDraconis> ty ty
[07:03] <Ketrel> ok better question, how do I enable ubuntu universe?
[07:03]  * scunizi wonders why everyone has such long nicks.. they all get truncated anyway
[07:03] <raylu> botux: inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:03] <Ketrel> (or is it enabled by default)
[07:03] <XiaolinDraconis> im having a little trouble with permissions
[07:03] <raylu> Ketrel: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:03] <raylu> Ketrel: or system > admin > software sources, i think
[07:03] <botux> raylu: i tried i cant see samba at that address
[07:03] <XiaolinDraconis> i try to use the same username everywhere i go
[07:04] <raylu> botux: m, no idea. talk to Sir_Brizz :P
[07:04] <Sir_Brizz> lol
[07:04] <botux> lol
[07:04] <Sir_Brizz> can you ping that ip from your windows box?
[07:04] <scunizi> XiaolinDraconis: anything beyond 9 characters get truncated on my machine.
[07:04] <botux> um lemme try
[07:04] <raylu> !permissions | XiaolinDraconis
[07:04] <raylu> i thought you were talking about username in linux =\
[07:05] <XiaolinDraconis> heh most names under 9 chars are taken anyways
[07:05] <Sir_Brizz> XiaolinDraconis: I bet a56g09r5rb is not taken
[07:05] <botux> Sir_Brizz: yes it was  successful
[07:05] <SJrX> jaunty!
[07:05] <XiaolinDraconis> can anyone help me with editing /etc/sudoers and/or /etc/passwd files?
[07:06] <raylu> Sir_Brizz: that's not under 9 chars. that's not even 9 chars.
[07:06] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: don't do the latter manually
[07:06] <Sir_Brizz> whoops I bumped the b key
[07:06] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: also, it looks like you're trying to do something the wrong way. what's the high-level goal you want to accomplish
[07:06]  * raylu feels like the paperclip
[07:06] <XiaolinDraconis> i want root access on my user account
[07:06] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: im still having trouble opening it.. doing an update...
[07:06] <Sir_Brizz> botux, how are you trying to access the share?
[07:06] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi, nope nothing for acro
[07:07] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: and "sudo ls" doesn't cut it?
[07:07] <lstarnes> XiaolinDraconis: then add your user to the admin group
[07:07] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: I'm on Hardy and it works.
[07:07] <XiaolinDraconis> i believe i am in the admin group
[07:07] <botux> Sir_Brizz: well with vista im not even sure how lol
[07:07] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi, would you mind printing it to pdf and kicking it my way?
[07:07] <lstarnes> XiaolinDraconis: if your account can use sudo, it is in the admin group and effectively has root rights
[07:07]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por el momento
[07:07] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: sure
[07:07] <XiaolinDraconis> but i still wasnt allowed to edit grub menu.lst
[07:07] <FiReSTaRT> thanks :)
[07:08] <lstarnes> XiaolinDraconis: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:08] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:08] <streenz> how do I change the default window manager without completely uninstalling the ones I dont want?  right now I'm constantly booting into LXDE by default and I want just GNOME.. I'm using GDM
[07:08] <Sir_Brizz> botux, well for startes try going to start, and typing run in the search box
[07:08] <XiaolinDraconis> as an admin user i wasnt allowed to edit grub menu file
[07:08] <raylu> streenz: gdm has a sessions button, doesn't it?
[07:08] <XiaolinDraconis> oops i scrolled up
[07:08] <Sir_Brizz> botux: then type \\<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:08] <raylu> streenz: also, gnome itself has a WM option... somewhere. i'm using gnome and xmonad
[07:08] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi, btw great news.. we finally have the nvidia 180 driver.. ill have to see if it'll solve the suspend issue on intrepid :)
[07:09] <streenz> raylu, yes I can go through and manually change it to GNOME, but theres no option to change what the default is, so from a reboot it will always go into LXDE unless i specify right now
[07:09] <XiaolinDraconis> i just dont want to have to use the terminal to do things all the time
[07:09] <lstarnes> XiaolinDraconis: there's also alt+f2
[07:09]  * FiReSTaRT brb rebooting :)
[07:09] <raylu> streenz: er, if you choose one that's not the default, it asks if you want to make it the default
[07:09] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: why not?
[07:10] <streenz> raylu, where does it ask? I see no option, and upon entering into GNOME it doesnt bring up a prompt or anything...
[07:10] <botux> Sir_Brizz: vista doesnt have run
[07:10] <leaveornot> irc://irc.karma-irc.net/nerve
[07:10] <Sir_Brizz> botux, yes it does
[07:10] <botux> oh lol
[07:10] <XiaolinDraconis> cause im a spoiled windows refugee
[07:10] <XiaolinDraconis> ....
[07:10] <botux> duh
[07:10] <raylu> streenz: before logging in at the gdm screen, there should be a Sessions option
[07:10] <ryanCH> can you install 3ddesktop via apt-get?
[07:10] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: well, you'll need to become a proper citizen or your stay here will be unpleasant
[07:11] <raylu> ryanCH: what's 3ddesktop?
[07:11] <streenz> raylu, yes it has Options --- Select Session...  upon clicking that I have the different options.. I choose GNOME, and click Change Session and log in... nowhere is there an option to make this the default
[07:11] <XiaolinDraconis> well if it makes anyone happy im proud to say i have no ntfs partitions on my machine anymore
[07:11] <ryanCH> raylu: it's a way to swtich between desktops in a 3d rotation
[07:12] <raylu> ryanCH: sounds like you want compiz
[07:12] <crdlb> streenz: with gdm, you will get a dialog that says [Make default] [Cancel] [Just for this session]
[07:12] <botux> SirBrizz: says cannot access and is asking me if i want it to diagnose a problem
[07:12] <raylu> ryanCH: try installing compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:12] <Sir_Brizz> botux: cannot acces what?
[07:13] <raylu> streenz: strange... perhaps that is the default? upon restart, it still puts you into lxde?
[07:13] <ron20101> how can i get the latest driver for my dell studio 1535 for ubuntu ibex?
[07:13] <streenz> raylu, yes there is no option to make default, and on a restart it goes into LXDE
[07:13] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: cool. i actually still keep it around :(
[07:13] <raylu> ron20101: for what device?
[07:13] <botux> Sir_Brizz: the ip address and when i click on details it says network path not found
[07:13] <XiaolinDraconis> raylu: is therre a difference in compize-settings-manager and simple-csm
[07:13] <raylu> streenz: no idea, sorry
[07:13] <streenz> crdlb, I dont see that dialog at all
[07:13] <ron20101> raylu video
[07:13] <ron20101> sorry
[07:13] <csaba> which command should I use to monitor a directory with gamin?
[07:14] <streenz> raylu, okay thanks anyways.. thanks for your time
[07:14] <crdlb> csaba: "command"?
[07:14] <raylu> streenz: poke /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:14] <csaba> what should I type to monitor a directory?
[07:14] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: i have no idea; i don't use either
[07:15] <XiaolinDraconis> i did have an ntfs partition until i discovered qemu
[07:15] <raylu> csaba: as in you want a line displayed on your terminal when someone creates or removes a file?
[07:15] <raylu> ron20101: what video card?
[07:15] <ron20101> raylu: any direction for finding latest video drivers
[07:15] <ron20101> hold on
[07:15] <raylu> ron20101: lspci
[07:15] <scunizi> ron20101: what card?
[07:16] <Ketrel> I can't figure this out
[07:16] <csaba> well no, I want another script to be executed... and I was told to use gamin, so I've tried to install it with apt-get install and was told that it's already installed... then in the end I found /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server but there's no help or anything on how to use it
[07:16] <raylu> Ketrel: welcome to my world
[07:16] <Ketrel> I installed b43-fwcutter but I can't find any info on what to do nextr
[07:16] <Ketrel> *next
[07:17] <raylu> Ketrel: try blacklisting the current driver in /etc/modprobe.d
[07:17] <crdlb> csaba: what programming language are you using?
[07:17] <csaba> this isn't programming, I'm trying to execute the command from the shell
[07:17] <XiaolinDraconis> ok can someone help me fix my /etc/passwd file?
[07:18] <crdlb> csaba: that is a form of programming, but I doubt it can be done at that level
[07:18] <XiaolinDraconis> i googled how to get root privies and was show how to do this
[07:18] <raylu> Ketrel: then, modprobe -r [current driver]
[07:18] <XiaolinDraconis> and it didnt work out the way i thought
[07:18] <raylu> Ketrel: modprobe b43-fwcutter or whatever
[07:18] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: 'able to use sudo' isn't the same as 'having root privelages'
[07:19] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah i understand this now
[07:19] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: you execute commands as root by prepending 'sudo'
[07:19] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: there is nothing wrong with your passwd (hopefully)
[07:19] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah i changed it to read g:x:0:0:,,,,,
[07:19] <XiaolinDraconis> which made my account root
[07:19] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: ..................
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[07:20] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah i got that far
[07:20]  * FiReSTaRT rebooted too soon.. didnt have the actual 180 driver installed .lol
[07:20] <raylu> ron20101: your'e probably using it already if its intel
[07:21] <XiaolinDraconis> what i attempted was making my account not need the terminal for root access
[07:21] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi, thanks for the file btw :)
[07:21] <Ketrel> raylu I don't think it's working
[07:21] <bullgard4> Why prints 'sudo netstat -tulpen' (http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394711) in the first line for port 2628=Dictionary Server as  program name=0,  and is not more specific as the rest lines?  'ps 5380' prints yet 'dictd 1.10.10: 0/0'.
[07:21] <XiaolinDraconis> now i AM root
[07:21] <XiaolinDraconis> and i dont wanna be root
[07:21] <raylu> Ketrel: lsmod | grep b43
[07:21] <XiaolinDraconis> i tried changing the entry back
[07:21] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: np..180.44 works well by the way
[07:21] <ron20101> thanks raylu for the help
[07:21] <XiaolinDraconis> but then my profile failed to load
[07:21] <raylu> !de | bullgard4
[07:22] <botux> Sir_Brizz:  you still there
[07:22] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: time to reboot again and try again lol
[07:22]  * FiReSTaRT brb
[07:22] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: so uh, how hard would it be to reinstall?
[07:22] <Ketrel> raylu: a bunch show up, but I can't unload it
[07:22] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: why you rebooting
[07:22] <bullgard4> raylu: Are you able to differntiate between English and German at all?
[07:22] <FiReSTaRT> it tells me i need to reboot for the driver to be activated
[07:22] <raylu> Ketrel: what was the name of the driver that lspci -v said it was using? and what did you modprobe -r?
[07:22] <XiaolinDraconis> not hard at all... how hard would this be to fix?
[07:23] <XiaolinDraconis> without reinstall
[07:23] <raylu> Ketrel: also, did you blacklist the old driver? if so, what was the name of the thing you added to the blacklist file?
[07:23] <scunizi> FiReSTaRT: k
[07:23] <FiReSTaRT> scunizi: and while i should have crashed like 2hrs ago i NEED to know whether it works :P
[07:23] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: i have no idea, since i've never done something that disastrous
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: you could boot to root recovery console and rename your profile folder and then delete your current user, then create a user with the same name, rename back, then chown the profile to the new user (even though it has the same name)
[07:23] <Ketrel> raylu: I think I missed those steps (not that I know how to do them)
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> raylu: does ^ sound good?
[07:24] <raylu> bullgard4: yes, but i can also differentiate between english and good english and was trying to help you by possibly providing you with an easier means of communication
[07:24] <XiaolinDraconis> Action has a plan
[07:24] <raylu> ActionParsnip: yes, but other changes could have been made
[07:24] <XiaolinDraconis> now i gotta find out how to backup my settings
[07:24] <Aloe> hi
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: just wait to see if anyone says its a bad call
[07:24] <raylu> i suppose its worth a try
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> raylu: ah, dang
[07:24] <raylu> since nothing can really get worse :P
[07:24] <Aloe> hi everybody
[07:25] <guja> If I use 9.04 beta, will it be updated and upgraded to official version after I preform this operations in 15 days when it'll be official?
[07:25] <raylu> Ketrel: er... ok, you said that you couldn't unload it. by that, i took it to mean you were modprobe -r -ing something?
[07:25] <lstarnes> XiaolinDraconis: or you could try using uid 1000 and gid 1000, assuming your account was the account made during installation
[07:25] <XiaolinDraconis> i wouldnt need to go to recovery console since i still have the real root account to login to
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> guja: yes, yuo will upgrade into the full release when it finally arrives
[07:25] <XiaolinDraconis> lstarness i tried doing that
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: yes as you will then be a different user and any files will not be locked
[07:26] <XiaolinDraconis> it gave me a bunch of errors at login such as couldnt create HOME/g
[07:26] <Aloe> I tried to write a if condition where one string is compared to two other string with the operator "eq" and "and" but it doesnt seem to work. Does anybody knows another way of writting it?
[07:26] <guja> ActionParsnip, thanks for the answer.
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: wll root wont give you that grief
[07:27] <XiaolinDraconis> nope root account is fine
[07:27] <XiaolinDraconis> i have two root accounts now
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: those files are massively system sensitive dude, stuff like xorg.conf and smb.conf are quite disposable, user authentication and permissions messing about I would steer VERY clear of
[07:27] <raylu> Aloe: show us the actual script?
[07:28] <Aloe> if ($geneID eq $geneIDl and $interactant eq $geneIDl )
[07:28] <Aloe> 		{
[07:28] <Aloe>
[07:28] <Aloe> 			print OUTFILE"gene1 exist";
[07:28] <Aloe> 		}
[07:28] <FloodBot3> Aloe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: as the account you have is screwed but I'm guessing you want to keep your user data I would do it in recovery mode with a fully functioning account
[07:28] <Aloe> ok
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: use pastebin, imagine if all 1300 of us did that, the channel would be pointless. think next time
[07:28] <XiaolinDraconis> my root account is fully funstional
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> actually all accounts are fine
[07:29] <Aloe> sorry guys
[07:29] <raylu> Aloe: i think you want [ instead of ( and -eq instead of eq and "&&" instead of "and"
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> i just cant revert to being a normal user
[07:29] <Aloe> wont happen again
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> or it gets crazy
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: its my suggestion, you are the implementor
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> oh yes i am listening
[07:29] <jurism> Can You tell me please how to list all local disks (not partitions) in terminal? Thank You!
[07:29] <XiaolinDraconis> and your idea sounds good to me
[07:30] <VE2EBP> Hi guys, I have an old laptop I can't find the way to change the brightness of the built-in LCD monitor. Is there somewhere in Ubuntu 8.10 that I can go ahead and change the settings? Thanks in advance.
[07:30] <raylu> jurism: mount shows all mount points, sudo fdisk -l shows all disks (and patitions), and df -h may help you
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: so go make your move
[07:30] <raylu> *partitions
[07:30] <jurism> Thank You!
[07:30] <Aloe> here goes the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/146717/
[07:30] <VE2EBP> Hi ActionParsnip
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> hi VE2EBP
[07:30] <Aloe> thanks raylu
[07:30] <raylu> Aloe: wait, that seriously worked?
[07:31] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah i gotta go do some googling to see how to backup profile settings ... such as custom panels and wallpapers
[07:31] <Aloe> I am goin to check
[07:31] <brunner> Is there any reason I shouldn't turn off "Kernel Debugging" when compiling a kernel for a production server?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: what language is this in?
[07:31] <raylu> brunner: is there any reason you're not using linux-image-server?
[07:31] <raylu> ActionParsnip: bash
[07:31] <brunner> raylu: I'm adjusting my timing to 1000Hz for Asterisk
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: it will be in you home folder
[07:32] <raylu> ActionParsnip: (i think)
[07:32] <brunner> raylu: that way, zap-dummy doesn't abuse my USB controller for timing
[07:32] <raylu> brunner: what does the help for that option say?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> raylu: I thought bash used brackets for if statements, ot parenthesis
[07:32] <psypher246> ActionParsnip: hey thanks for the help yesterday. my pc is half sorted, can at least watch videos now.
[07:32] <raylu> brunner: oh wait, it's a whole category
[07:33] <brunner> raylu: yeah
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> thnx guys
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: you'll need fi at the end of the pastebin to close the if statement
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> psypher246: awesome
[07:33] <VE2EBP> Yeah.. thanks for me too ActionParsnip... I installed the CWIRC
[07:33] <VE2EBP> with your help
[07:33] <VE2EBP> Thanks
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> so just back it up from a seperate account and then delete it and recreate it
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> and copy back over
[07:33] <XiaolinDraconis> sound right>?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> VE2EBP: np bro, it makes the world go round, help folks where you can
[07:34] <Ketrel> raylu: I was doing modprobe -r b43
[07:34] <VE2EBP> There should be more like you around
[07:34] <Ketrel> (and getting denied messages)
[07:34] <boooo> guys what is the shortcut of "go back back" in Firefox in ubuntu? in windows it is backspace... how about in Ubuntu?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: if you simply rename it so the home folder no longer matches the user name you have a winner
[07:34] <raylu> brunner: magic sysrq is fun :D. but i guess not. then again, i'm not sure
[07:34] <Aloe> this is perl
[07:34] <VE2EBP> Our world might be turning more round
[07:34] <raylu> Aloe: oh.............
[07:34] <XiaolinDraconis> got ya
[07:34] <raylu> Ketrel: er, there's actually a b43 module?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> VE2EBP: as long as it doesnt accellerate the end of the world right ;)
[07:35] <boooo> guys what is the shortcut of "go back back" in Firefox in ubuntu? in windows it is backspace... how about in Ubuntu?
[07:35] <raylu> Ketrel: you'll need to be root to do that. i also recommend invoke-rc.d networking stop
[07:35] <raylu> Ketrel: before doing that
[07:35] <VE2EBP> 3 more years to go
[07:35] <XiaolinDraconis> alt+left
[07:35] <VE2EBP> What do you think about planet x
[07:35] <XiaolinDraconis> booo: its alt+left arrow
[07:35] <lstarnes> boooo: maybe alt+left
[07:35] <boooo> wow thanks...
[07:35] <raylu> boooo: about:config > backspace_action
[07:35] <VE2EBP> Oh cool, alt left arrow
[07:35] <VE2EBP> tnx
[07:36] <Ketrel> raylu: I have no idea what I'm doing at this point, I dunno what to do here. I always avoid broadcom for that reason.
[07:36] <sombir> any help on downloading vlc media player ??
[07:36] <FiReSTaRT> it's official 180.11 still doesn't suspend my machine
[07:36] <FiReSTaRT> sombir: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:36] <Ketrel> (setting up this laptop with a simple layout for someone as a bday present)
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> sombir: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:36] <raylu> Ketrel: so, lsmod lists kernel modules that are loaded. lspci -v shows what devices are using what modules. modprobe [module] loads [module] and -r does the reverse
[07:36] <XiaolinDraconis> cya guys later i gotta go log into the other root
[07:36] <XiaolinDraconis> thnx again
[07:36] <raylu> Ketrel: to modprobe, you'll need to be root
[07:36] <FiReSTaRT> sombir, just make sure you have mediubuntu
[07:37] <Ketrel> raylu, I was root
[07:37] <Aloe> ActionParsnip:here goes the file http://paste.ubuntu.com/146719/
[07:37] <Ketrel> it wouldn't let me unload
[07:37] <Ketrel> I used sudo
[07:37] <raylu> Ketrel: oh. can you show me the actual message?
[07:37] <showers> Anybody know if there are any repositories on the web which one might be able to add to ubuntu package manager
[07:37] <raylu> sombir: why vlc?
[07:37] <Aloe> raylu: it doesn't work :(
[07:37] <raylu> showers: none that are recommended
[07:37] <raylu> Aloe: yeah. i gave you the bash version
[07:38] <Aloe> raylu: ah! ok
[07:38] <Ketrel> raylu: nevermind, it worked after reboot, but more importantly now that I unloaded it, what DO I load?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> showers: depends what app you need to what repo you need to add
[07:38] <abhishekiitd> hey people, how can i set the rotating sphere in compiz, as my screensaver?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: what language is this in?
[07:39] <Aloe> ActionParsnip: Perl
[07:39] <krammer_> i am trying to install a tar.bz2 but geting this err tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:39] <krammer_> tar: Child returned status 2
[07:39] <krammer_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: i'd ask in #perl  much more specialized
[07:40] <raylu> Aloe: http://rafb.net/p/uUTmyl54.html
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> krammer_: whats the file for? It's rare to use tar.bz2 files to install stuff. Is the app not in repos?
[07:40] <showers> I would like a calculator which will keep a running total and has a hisory which could be used as memory. ESBcalc in windows type of calculator.
[07:40] <grawity> krammer_: what parameters are you using? try tar xf yourfile, or tar xjf yourfile
[07:40] <raylu> Ketrel: it worked _after_ reboot?
[07:40] <krammer_> tightvnc
[07:40] <abhishekiitd> hey people, how can i set the rotating sphere in compiz, as my screensaver?
[07:40] <abhishekiitd> hey people, how can i set the rotating sphere in compiz, as my screensaver?
[07:40] <raylu> Ketrel: did you blacklist anything? lspci -v again, see what's loaded for it
[07:41] <Aloe> raylu: I tried that too but it also doesnt work
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> showers: bc can do that, you can see your old computations as it scrolls up the screen
[07:41] <raylu> !patience | abhishekiitd
[07:41] <abhishekiitd> raylu:I am really sorry!
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> !find tight
[07:41] <raylu> showers: sounds like you want an rpn calculator. if you're familiar with that, dc does that
[07:41] <Aloe> ActionParsnip: Is there a forum like this specialized in perl?
[07:41] <raylu> Aloe: try == instead of eq
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: there are 528 people in #perl
[07:41] <raylu> Aloe: also, you need a space between OUTFILE and "
[07:42] <showers> ActionParsnip: Do you know the command to get that from the command line. I i think it's sudo apt-get?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> krammer_: tightvnc is in the repo
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> !info tightvnc
[07:42] <Ketrel> raylu: I'm missing something then, it says kernel driver in use is b43-pci-bridge but attempting to unload says it's not found
[07:42] <raylu> showers: both bc and dc are installed already, i think
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> krammer_: or do you want a viewer?
[07:42] <raylu> Ketrel: lsmod | grep b43
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !nvc | krammer_
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> aah
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !vcn | krammer_
[07:43] <Ketrel> however, just unloading b43 worked at which point it stopped showing up as a device in the network manager
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !vnc
[07:43] <raylu> heh...
[07:43] <Aloe> raylu: == only works for numbers
[07:43]  * ActionParsnip crys
[07:43] <krammer_> ActionParsnip, ive been trying for hours with this tightvnc
[07:43] <Hassanakevazir> !help
[07:43] <Aloe> ActionParsnip: how do I enter in #perl, iḿ new here
[07:43] <raylu> Aloe: are you sure? have you tried it?
[07:43] <showers> No, I deleted all the calculators. (just learning, you see) the only one I have right now that i know of is kcalc. good but no history
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: use /join #perl
[07:44] <Aloe> raylu:yeah!
[07:44] <ndan> mmkay... well i feel i worked on it sufficiently to ask.
[07:44] <jurism> Grawity, hi! I was asking about hard drive, soft lockup, ata_aux 100% usage etc. Today my server was restarted and now I can not see my second hard disk (was mounted on /home). Is it because of disk failure or SATA connector/controller?
[07:44] <raylu> Aloe: http://rafb.net/p/DNJcbP77.html
[07:44] <krammer_> i downloaded  tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc.tar.gz  now what do i do
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> krammer_: its usually tar zxjf <bz2 file> will extract it, you can then read the INSTALL file to see how it is installed. I suggest you use one of the vnc clients in the repo
[07:44] <ndan> webcam ubuntu.  a pain nevertheless.  quickcam (cheese) works.  installed fine kopete and gyachi however show a messed up image... grey jacked up.  ekiga works.
[07:44] <XiaolinDraconis> ok i have one problem with ur idea action
[07:44] <raylu> showers: oh, you have qt stuff installed. install qalculate then
[07:44] <jurism> tar xvfz tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc.tar.gz
[07:45] <Ketrel> raylu: after unloading b43, it's blank
[07:45] <raylu> jurism: um, he probably should be installing from repos
[07:45] <ndan> gspca is the driver it uses and apparently registers it as flexcam 100 (its not but it works.. somewhat) ne ideas how to finish the fixin it.
[07:45] <XiaolinDraconis> since the files read that they are owned by root.. when i copy them back over my newly created account wont they be unusable?
[07:45] <krammer_> jurism, i did that scroll back and see the error
[07:45] <raylu> Ketrel: hm... ok. what was the module you wanted to replace it with?
[07:45] <grawity> jurism: Sorry, I don't know anything about those storage things :) (I can destroy then, that's about it.)
[07:45] <Ketrel> raylu: that's what I've been asking
[07:45] <raylu> jurism: what do you mean you cannot 'see' it? fdisk -l?
[07:46] <raylu> Ketrel: o.0...
[07:46] <jurism> yes it shows only system disk
[07:46] <abhishekiitd> will someone tell mem that can u set beryl sphere as screensaver?
[07:46] <raylu> Ketrel: oh yeah, fwcutter. b43-fwcutter, i thought
[07:46] <Aloe> ActionParsnip: this may sound stupid but where do I write that?
[07:46] <Ketrel> raylu: that's a program not a module
[07:46] <nadan> btw if neone does respond about the webcam thing please refer to nadan... (my screen flashes n it made me change my nick)
[07:46] <raylu> Ketrel: it should have unpacked a module, right?
[07:47] <Nom-> Hey guys.  Is there any simple way to fix the behaviour of 'su' in hardy?  It doesn't seem to load the user environment as it does in older versions
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: where you type the text you type to me
[07:47] <raylu> Nom-: su -, maybe
[07:47] <hecklingfext> i have an issue where my external hdd will not mount with any write access, no matter what options i put into my fstab
[07:47] <Nom-> raylu: Yeah, it doesn't work... it doesn't load the user environment
[07:47] <Ketrel> raylu: I have no idea, the wiki pretty much is mute after telling you to download it
[07:47] <raylu> Nom-: even with the -?
[07:47] <AK_Dave> ray: fwcutter means firmware cutter. b43-fwcutter is a program to cut your firmware out of the loop so that your kernel module will work.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: it's only a stupid question if you already know and are just bustin my chops to waste my time :)
[07:47] <Nom-> Yes, even with the -
[07:47] <kraut> moin
[07:47] <raylu> Ketrel: have you run it?
[07:47] <raylu> Nom-: strange; no idea
[07:47] <Ketrel> raylu: ¯\(°_o)/¯
[07:48] <Ketrel> I don't have a clue what to do with it
[07:48] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: i have a possible problem with your idea
[07:48] <showers> I did download one from opensource.net the name says 'JavaScientificCalculator-2-0.3-Linux-x86-Install which I dragged onto the termial but it was rejected
[07:48] <hecklingfext> before mounting, /media/drive is drwxrwxrwx  after it changes to drwxr-xr-x
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: sup
[07:48] <Aloe> join #perl
[07:48] <Im_Toast> Is there any way to make a program get rid of it's hidden files when I uninstall it?
[07:48] <Nom-> I was going to suggest using sudo -i -u, but that complains when you try to run standard commands like 'perl'
[07:48] <raylu> Ketrel: so you installed a package b43-fwcutter, right? is there an app by that name?
[07:48] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: the profile is owned by root
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: modify its mount options
[07:48] <raylu> Ketrel: if not, dpkg -L b43-fwcutter
[07:48] <Aloe> use /join #perl
[07:48] <styol> regarding wifi and networkmanager, if you enter the wireless key for a router on one user account, how can you make that key for that router work the same when a different user account logs in? (so that it auto-connects)
[07:49] <Aloe> #perl
[07:49] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: i have in fstab to all possibilities i can think of
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: then you will need to be root, use root recovery conole and you will be the owner (root)
[07:49] <Ketrel> raylu: yes, but I see no guide on what to do WITH the app
[07:49] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: so when i paste it overtop the newly created profile wont it be in-accessible
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: you could add uid=1000 as an extra option
[07:49] <raylu> Ketrel: if you simply run it, it will extract the module
[07:49] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: it worked formatted in fat32 with umask=0000, but once i formatted into ext3 no cigar
[07:49] <Ketrel> raylu: no, it prints a menu
[07:50] <Ketrel> which tells me switches to extract the firmware
[07:50] <Ketrel> (from WHAT)
[07:50] <Aloe> ActionParsnip: do i type: join #perl (??)
[07:50] <raylu> Ketrel: hm... sorry, no idea
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: well thats why you chown -R <username> /home/<username>   when you copy it back (you will need to replace <username> with the username you are playing with0
[07:50] <raylu> Ketrel: though this sounds vaguely familiar
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Aloe: you type         /join #perl
[07:51] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: thats a lot of files to chown
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: then its gonna take a while
[07:51] <XiaolinDraconis> is there a way to batch chown a folder
[07:51] <Aloe> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: thats what -R does
[07:51] <XiaolinDraconis> ooh kool
[07:51] <XiaolinDraconis> thnx
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: why were you playing with hugely system sensitive files when you are CLEARLY a linux novice?
[07:51] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: same issue
[07:51] <raylu> my friend installed fedora over debian with a separate /home. debian, like ubuntu, uses uid=1000. fedora uses 500. it had to chown a few hundred files...
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: just curious
[07:52] <raylu> but instead of using chown, it used a python script
[07:52] <raylu> to do it. one. by. one.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> raylu: haha nice
[07:52] <brunner> can anyone take a quick look at the end of this to tell me why I'm having trouble getting this kernel to compile? http://pastebin.com/mffa9e13
[07:52] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: mount shows /dev/sdc1 on /media/backups type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,relatime)
[07:53] <brunner> I only changed two options, and the issue seems to be related to the parameters I'm passing when I try to compile, not the source of the kernel itself.
[07:53] <raylu> brunner: isn't there a config option to do the '-7-1-brunner' thing?
[07:53] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: hmm i tried to delete it but it tells me adminstrator account cant be deleted
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: ket me websearch
[07:53] <_motti_> hi all.
[07:53] <brunner> raylu: perhaps, could there be one that I'm not aware of?
[07:53] <raylu> _motti_: it seems i was wrong about earlier
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: you dont need to delete it, just rename it, rename /home/<whatever name>
[07:54] <Aloe> raylu:  it also didnt go.But thanks anyway
[07:54] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: more info, im running jaunty 64bit.  Dont know if that helps
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: or cp the folder to a new name, then delete the user
[07:54] <raylu> brunner: i'm pretty sure there was one in 2.6.27... but i'm not sure entirely
[07:54] <Ketrel> raylu: I think the card is completely unsupported
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty | hecklingfext
[07:54] <_motti_> raylu, it's funny, it looks like you were right. I have noticed there are other bug report titled as a feature request
[07:54] <raylu> Ketrel: then ndiswrapper
[07:54] <_motti_> never mind that I got a new question
[07:54] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: i renamed the accounts folder
[07:54] <Ketrel> which I have no idea how to use >.<
[07:54] <raylu> _motti_: heh, ok :D
[07:54] <Aloe> raylu: Iĺl have to go now,Iĺl think about it later.
[07:54] <raylu> !ndiswrapper | Ketrel
[07:55] <raylu> Ketrel: simply put, ndiswrapper -i [windows install .inf], modprobe, done
[07:55] <raylu> Ketrel: the hard part is getting the correct windows installer
[07:55] <_motti_> any way, I'm trying to use my home computer (linux mint, soon to be ubuntu 9.04) into a small ftp server so I could access files from other machines
[07:55] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: was that factoid supposed to do something?
[07:55] <Ketrel> especially without net access on that machine
[07:56] <raylu> !jaunty
[07:56] <raylu> hecklingfext: ^
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: then cp it to a new name. you may have to play with the account some so its deleteable, you've really messed this up dude. it's gonna take a lot of diggin
[07:56] <_motti_> and I'm not sure how to do it. I have listed my machine in dyndns servers but I can't see any files. ftp://yotam1.myphotos.cc
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: jaunty isnt supported here
[07:56] <raylu> Ketrel: oh... heh. that's always fun
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: so yes it issupposed to and DOES do something
[07:56] <jurism> Can someone tell me please what's wrong with my hard drive if after restart it not showing up in system (fdisk -l)? Some debug from syslog: Apr  8 09:07:54 ubuntu kernel: [   17.245836] ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) Apr  8 09:07:54 ubuntu kernel: [   17.745014] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) . ata4 is my system disk and it's working fine
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: you should read it
[07:56] <raylu> _motti_: are you behind a router?
[07:57] <eternal_> Is there a application to edit psd files ?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> jurism: dont paste like that it scrolls the channel
[07:57] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: i did, i was just mentioning that it didnt show anything w/ the pipe there
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> hecklingfext: my bad
[07:57] <drmrhorse> scared off the bot lol
[07:57] <_motti_> yes. I was searching how to by pass it but I have seen it should turn ok
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> i can get him back
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> see
[07:57] <hecklingfext> ActionParsnip: its ok,  thanks for your help
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> he lurrrrves coffee
[07:58] <eternal_> !noob
[07:58] <eternal_> ha
[07:58] <telen> Any one there
[07:58] <eternal_> !psd
[07:58] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: ok so i deleted the entry from passwd file now the account is "gone"
[07:58] <drmrhorse> what is jfgi?
[07:58] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: anything else i should delete ?
[07:58] <eternal_> who knows
[07:59] <Ketrel> drmrhorse: it'll be finnier if you look it up on google
[07:59] <Ketrel> *funnier
[07:59] <drmrhorse> kk
[07:59] <DJJeff> where is there a laptops tested page for ubuntu?
[07:59]  * drmrhorse dies
[07:59] <DJJeff> have a gateway 7330GZ laptop and wont install 8.10
[07:59] <Mr_Jfrsn> hey guys does anyone know how to fix flash .. it seems to lag really bad
[07:59] <axsd9d> !hacker
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: not sure, have a websearch, see what you can find. You could recreate the account as a user, then delete that gracefully so that the last bits of the account are removed
[08:00] <brunner> Makefile:528: /root/src/linux-source-2.6.27/arch/xen/Makefile: No such file or directory
[08:00] <brunner> any idea what's up with that?
[08:00] <eternal_> !find psd
[08:00] <eternal_> Do i have to load windows up just to veiw psd?
[08:00] <raylu> brunner: why are you building it for xen?
[08:00] <bn43> hi I've just installed intrepid from an old disk and on update I am getting errors - GPG error at the end - how do I fix?
[08:00] <XiaolinDraconis> passwords are wierd in ubuntu
[08:00] <Don_Miguel> Help please ... I was trying to install (LOTS) of package upgrades and got the warning that   three of them are "Broken" and I should use that  "Broken" as a filter  to locate them.   I have no real idea how to DO that, nor what to do next... maybe delete them ? Flannel, are you available to help ??
[08:00] <grawity> XiaolinDraconis: Why do you think so?
[08:00] <XiaolinDraconis> when i installed it allowed me to use a 1 character password
[08:01] <brunner> raylu: I don't want to.  I just want AMD64
[08:01] <XiaolinDraconis> but after install no accounts can have anythingless than 6
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: that is discouraged in jaunty
[08:01] <raylu> brunner: pretty sure there's a config...somewhere... for that...
[08:01] <XiaolinDraconis> jaunty?
[08:01] <_motti_> raylu. so should I give up
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: th next release, weak passwords are pointless
[08:01] <raylu> _motti_: is the ftpd running?
[08:01] <dandre> Hello,
[08:01] <XiaolinDraconis> true i would rather have no password
[08:02] <AK_Dave> if you don't want a password, use autologin
[08:02] <telen> do any one know how to back the default setting?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: then your system is massively vulnerable to attacks and poisoning
[08:02] <AK_Dave> you can void your sudo password with NOPASSWD in the sudoers file
[08:02] <_motti_> raylu, I'm bot sure. I think so. I'm using vsftpd
[08:02] <dandre> I am searching for a tool that can display all dns information for a domain. which one do you suggest?
[08:02] <raylu> _motti_: pgrep -l ftp
[08:02] <brunner> http://pastebin.com/m2ebae410
[08:02] <XiaolinDraconis> today is the first day i google about security
[08:02] <raylu> _motti_: also, netstat -lt
[08:03] <XiaolinDraconis> sounds quite difficult in linux
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: what is difficult?
[08:03] <raylu> dandre: host is the short and simple one. nslookup is a bit more complicated. dig goes all the way. also, whois
[08:03] <XiaolinDraconis> security
[08:03] <AK_Dave> security in linux is EASY. It comes by default. Getting rid of it takes work and knowing what you're doing
[08:03] <_motti_> 30664 vsftpd
[08:03] <XiaolinDraconis> lol apparently getting rid of it is easier
[08:04] <raylu> AK_Dave: you missed the conversation earlier :D
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: its really not, just have a half decent password and use sudo. Security done
[08:04] <XiaolinDraconis> cause i managed to do it without any knowledge
[08:04] <raylu> _motti_: can you connect to it locally?
[08:04] <Hassanakevazir> XiaolinDraconis, just pick a good root password and yer set
[08:04] <XiaolinDraconis> i have a good password
[08:04] <XiaolinDraconis> seems hard to me anyways
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: the fact that you wre sudo gives you full reign over yur system so you are free to screw it up (as you have done now)
[08:04] <XiaolinDraconis> and every website says its strong when i choose it
[08:05] <_motti_> in both cases I see a white screen (both when ftping my local ip and when I'm ftping my url)
[08:05] <Baskt_Case> hello all... my machine is in the DMZ, iptables has been disabled, yet my ports still appear stealthed to the internet, what gives?\
[08:05] <dandre> raylu: I haven't found how to use dig, host or nslookup for that. I have only been able to get the top level A record (for instance domain.com)
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: when you use sudo, linux will not save your own bad actions from yourself
[08:05] <XiaolinDraconis> so if i can use sudo couldnt the attacker as well?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: only if they have your password
[08:05] <raylu> dandre: "dig domain.com" gives me 3 ns records and 2 A records
[08:05] <XiaolinDraconis> i should prolly change roots password then
[08:05] <raylu> dandre: host gave me domain.com's mailserver
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: no dont
[08:06] <dandre> yes but I want all A, CNAME, ... feilds
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: root account is disabled so any attack on that account wiill have 0% chance of success
[08:06] <XiaolinDraconis> why not?
[08:06] <_motti_> raylu. in both cases I see a white screen (both when ftping my local ip and when I'm ftping my url)
[08:06] <Madpilot> XiaolinDraconis, unless you've assigned root a password, there is no pw
[08:06] <Hassanakevazir> _motti_, I don't know what you are using but gproftp has been the easiest for me to setup and configure
[08:06] <Madpilot> the account is just locked, as ActionParsnip said
[08:06] <XiaolinDraconis> oh yeah i gave root a one char password
[08:06] <XiaolinDraconis> which i just now changed
[08:06]  * ActionParsnip facepalms
[08:06] <raylu> _motti_: um... what ftp client are you using?
[08:06] <Madpilot> XiaolinDraconis, you can disable root again. I'd recommend it
[08:07] <XiaolinDraconis> how do i disable it?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: i STRONGLY reccomend it
[08:07] <_motti_> firefox
[08:07] <Madpilot> XiaolinDraconis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Madpilot: do you know the command?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> neat
[08:07] <Madpilot> or ask the bot
[08:07] <_motti_> raylu: firefox
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> root account with a 1 char pass, thats classic
[08:07] <Madpilot> ubottu, root | ActionParsnip
[08:07] <raylu> _motti_: uh... try using 'ftp localhost' in the terminal
[08:07] <Xcell> lol 1 char pass
[08:08] <thahauss> Can someone please help me out I'm new to Linux/Ubuntu and I'm trying to mount a slave drive I formatted in ext4 through gparted but it doesn't show up in Filemaster>Places any help is appreciated
[08:08] <XiaolinDraconis> open terminal
[08:08] <raylu> dandre: "dig domain.com CNAME" seems to have worked
[08:08] <XiaolinDraconis> type mount -a
[08:08] <XiaolinDraconis> that will mount all available media
[08:08] <drmrhorse> i couldnt access my ext4 partition from my hardy login
[08:08] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: that applies only to entries in /etc/fstab
[08:08] <XiaolinDraconis> ooh
[08:09] <raylu> drmrhorse: i don't believe hardy has ext4 support. nor does intrepid
[08:09] <drmrhorse> sure doesnt
[08:09] <drmrhorse> i was just talking like
[08:09] <Don_Miguel> Help please ... I was trying to install (LOTS) of package upgrades and got the warning that   three of them are "Broken" and I should use that  "Broken" as a filter  to locate them.   I have no real idea how to DO that, nor what to do next... maybe delete them ?
[08:09] <AK_Dave> thahauss: You just now formatted it. okay, so unplug it and plug it back in fresh.
[08:09] <raylu> Don_Miguel: didn't you have this issue like... months earlier?
[08:09] <Don_Miguel> similar, yep !
[08:09] <Baskt_Case> Hello all... My machine is in the DMZ and I have iptables disabled, yet my ports still appear closed when I test them.... what gives???
[08:09] <thahauss> AK_Dave, its a Sata drive
[08:09] <royman> lol 1 char root password...
[08:09] <Xcell> Don_Miguel--  open up synaptic package manager and click...fix broken
[08:10] <lstarnes> Baskt_Case: the ports won't open until something starts listening on them
[08:10] <XiaolinDraconis> i am happy to have given all a good laugh
[08:10] <thahauss> XiaolinDraconis, I tried what you told me but its still not showing in places any ides?
[08:10] <Baskt_Case> like my torrent client
[08:10] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah action said i was wrong
[08:10] <XiaolinDraconis> it only applies to entries in fstab file
[08:10] <Baskt_Case> i kno... and when i check the port while the client is running, it still appears closed
[08:10] <Baskt_Case> so i killed iptables
[08:10] <Baskt_Case> and still no go
[08:11] <Don_Miguel> raylu, this FIX has something we missed MONTHS ago !    https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-January/104520.html
[08:11] <XiaolinDraconis> maybe he can go to /dev ?
[08:11] <Don_Miguel> Xcell, thanks !
[08:11] <Nom-> gah worked it out
[08:11] <XiaolinDraconis> thahauss: right click a panel
[08:11] <XiaolinDraconis> and then select "add to panel"
[08:11] <Baskt_Case> lstarnes, any ideas?
[08:11] <Nom-> Someone had the bright idea of aliasing su to "su -m" as part of our production auto install CD
[08:12] <error404notfound> I had a ubuntu-server install, i installed xserver-xorg, configured it, now when i run startx screen goes black, and i endup on the same terminal with "Fatal server error, no screens found, XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":).0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 vents remaining." Any ideas?
[08:12] <Nom-> So behaviour was broken
[08:12] <XiaolinDraconis> and then find the disk mounter
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: why install server if you are going to put an xserver on it?
[08:12] <raylu> Don_Miguel: ah... we should have moved /var/lib/dpkg/info instead of all of /var/lib/dpkg. strange error
[08:12] <thahauss> XiaolinDraconis, ok I added disk mounter
[08:13] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip, just doing a test, whats wrong with it? i will remove it once i get it running and do a little work..
[08:13] <XiaolinDraconis> now you "should" have little icons to click
[08:13] <raylu> Nom-: interesting
[08:13] <AK_Dave> XiaolinDraconis: If his drive isn't showing up in Nautilus, it won't show up on that little panel applet.
[08:13] <eternal_> Anyone ever setup ircd-hybrid before? i can't connect past motd
[08:13] <Don_Miguel> raylu, we tried LOTS of variations .. but missed the part that fixed it ...
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: ok, just seems pointless installing server to put x on it, thats one of the features of the server install
[08:14] <hardaez> hi
[08:14] <XiaolinDraconis> hmmm
[08:14] <XiaolinDraconis> i google this one
[08:14] <thahauss> Gparted shows it as formatted but unmounted
[08:14] <error404notfound> my issue isn't that i shouldnt be installing it, coz believe me i know, but it gives this error..
[08:14]  * Don_Miguel switching computers for a bit to try Xcell's suggestion with synaptic
[08:15] <AK_Dave> thahaus: sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[08:15] <thahauss> AK_Dave, ok done
[08:15] <dandre> raylu: what domaine have you tested?
[08:15] <Nom-> raylu: Not really, but thanks for saying so :)
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: let me websearch
[08:16] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip, /me is also on google :D
[08:16] <groken> what is the restricted component for in an ubuntu repository?
[08:17] <AK_Dave> thahaus: Okay, so now it should show up in Places
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:17] <_motti_> raylu. Ok, ftp localhost works now.
[08:17] <thahauss> AK_Dave, I still dont see it :(
[08:17] <thahauss> AK_Dave, this is a fresh install of 9.04 also
[08:17] <raylu> _motti_: and does it work from another machine inside the network?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=1399
[08:17] <raylu> _motti_: it's possible that it's ocnfigured to only listen on <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:18] <hardaez> anyone know why when i install google earth 5... the window screen at google earth become blurr and noisy
[08:18] <_motti_> raylu, I have no othe machine inside the network
[08:18] <raylu> dandre: domain.com
[08:18] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: ok so the command is chown -R <usr> /home/<usr>
[08:18] <hardaez> i just install on my laptop acer aspire
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: you need an xorg.conf run: sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <jurism> I have problems with my SATA disk, where should I add pci=nomsi in menu.lst? thank You! Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server
[08:18] <raylu> _motti_: oh. well, i'd poke the vsftpd config to see if it was only listening on localhost
[08:18] <AK_Dave> thahauss: hit that web link I sent you to. Redo the partition manually, from the command line.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: yes to give the user (who is now a USER) it's data
[08:18] <_motti_> raylu, I'll search there and be back.
[08:19] <XiaolinDraconis> ok gonna try logging back in
[08:19] <_motti_> raylu, bu before I go, is there a simple way in xchat to auto-complete user-names?
[08:19] <raylu> !tab | _motti_
[08:20] <Hassanakevazir> groken, it is packages with non-free licenses.
[08:20] <_motti_> raylu: thanks. I don't know why but I can swear that It didn't work on the first few times I tried it.
[08:20] <dandre> raylu: http://pastebin.fr/4013
[08:21] <raylu> dandre: is that not the cname entry?
[08:22] <dandre> I have tried ANY too
[08:22] <raylu> dandre: see, i actually don't know anything about DNS besides the basic concept :P
[08:23] <dandre> ok
[08:23] <raylu> dandre: but i'm fairly confident "dig --help" will help you
[08:23] <kaushal> hi
[08:23] <brunner> how long does it take to compile the kernel on desktop?
[08:23] <kaushal> anyone using google desktop on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:23] <brunner> must take ages
[08:23] <raylu> brunner: on my laptop it took ~10 mins
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> brunner: depends on cpu, ram and hard drive speed
[08:24] <brunner> ActionParsnip: 8 64-bit Opteron cores, 16GB of RAM, two RAID 1 15K SAS drives
[08:24] <raylu> brunner: with make -j9, like 60 seconds
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> brunner: i'd call about 10 mins tops
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> 8 x cpu, damn, yeah abou 2 mins
[08:25] <brunner> I set the CONCURRENCY_LEVEL to 8
[08:25] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip, i have a xorg.conf using vesa
[08:26] <error404notfound> even tried with vmware
[08:26] <brunner> I need a faster server =/
[08:27] <_motti_> raylu: could it be relevant to inetd?
[08:27] <_motti_> Hassanakevazir: I tried your app but I couldn't find any man for it, or a gui
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: you could try: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[08:29] <Burntresistor> im trying to install my nvidia driver using given command sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.44-pkg2.run   and the error im getting says install as root
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: that will give you a low footprint DE too
[08:29] <error404notfound> i just needed X :(
[08:30] <AK_Dave> Burntresistor: sudo
[08:30] <raylu> _motti_: if vsftpd is running as an inetd daemon, yes
[08:30] <yubinjie> haha
[08:30] <raylu> _motti_: but unless you're using inetd for at least 1 other daemon, i'd recommend you try and run it as a normal daemon
[08:31] <yubinjie> hello everyone
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: you could run the command and read what other packages will be installed, see what looks good
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: then cancel the install and install individual packages
[08:32] <raylu> (that's what aptitude -s is for)
[08:32] <raylu> (and you don't even need to be root :D)
[08:35] <_motti_> raylu: could it be that I have inetd running and I don't know of?
[08:36] <raylu> _motti_: it would only matter if vsftpd was set to run as an inetd daemon or if inetd was listening on 22. in either case, netstat -tl will help you
[08:36] <_motti_> ~pastebin
[08:37] <_motti_> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/146747/
[08:38] <raylu> _motti_: try netstat -tlp
[08:38] <raylu> _motti_: also, it looks like whatever's listening on ftp is listening for all addresses, so it's not a localhost-only issue but a port-forwarding issue
[08:39] <_motti_> it looks the same
[08:39] <raylu> _motti_: shouldn't there be a pid/program name column?
[08:40] <_motti_> raylu: you are right of course.
[08:40] <_motti_> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/146749/
[08:41] <_motti_> raylu: I have played around with configuration las night, could it be that I have blocked outside ip's?
[08:41] <raylu> _motti_: again, it looks like it's listening for all addresses
[08:41] <raylu> _motti_: pgrep -l inetd
[08:42] <_motti_> no result
[08:42] <XiaolinDraconis> well that didnt work
[08:42] <raylu> ok, not definitive that it's not an inetd, but i'd say that it's a port forwarding issue now
[08:42] <_motti_> raylu: so I need to configure my router?
[08:43] <raylu> _motti_: yep. wait, you have tried to do that already, right?
[08:43] <Machtin> hey guys.. i got a few 100 files which have a .htm-extension - however, i want that extension to be removed.. how do i do that? i thought of something like mv *.htm /bla/*-htm
[08:43] <Machtin> i'm fine with a tool, too
[08:44] <raylu> Machtin: for $file in .
[08:44] <_motti_> raylu: As I wrote at the beginning, I thought I should but I didn't find any reference for it on the web
[08:45] <raylu> file=${file%.htm}
[08:45] <raylu> er, wait...
[08:45] <Machtin> raylu: mind giving me a complete command? i don't want to mess it up
[08:46] <_motti_> raylu: What should I configure, the port forwarding or the virtual server?
[08:46] <raylu> Machtin: http://rafb.net/p/dy7VKd46.html
[08:46] <raylu> Machtin: echo will show you what that script is doing. if it works, take out the echo
[08:46] <raylu> _motti_: er, those are normally terms for the same thing, right?
[08:47] <Machtin> raylu: save as bash-script-file?
[08:47] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: should i have used chmod on it as well?
[08:47] <_motti_> raylu: If I knew, I wouldn't ask you. I'm searching the web for router configuration.
[08:48] <raylu> Machtin: yes. but i think i screwed that up; one sec
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: you could use: sudo chmod -R 750 /home/<user name>
[08:48] <Machtin> raylu: take your time :) i think "file" should be something like $file, %file, no?
[08:49] <Machtin> and noext next.. i think
[08:49] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: i believe i need 644
[08:49] <raylu> Machtin: no and no. noext is a variable
[08:49] <Machtin> ok
[08:49] <raylu> Machtin: and ${file%.htm} strips the last ".htm" http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/refcards.html#AEN21811
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: 6 = read + write, surely you want execute priveledges on your own data?
[08:50] <raylu> Machtin: do these filenames have spaces in them?
[08:50] <_motti_> raylu: here is first line from a documentation about virtual server of some router company "Virtual Server, also referred to as Port forwarding or port mapping can be setup with the router."
[08:50] <Machtin> raylu: nope
[08:50] <raylu> _motti_: ^^. try portforward.com
[08:50] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: ooh i dont know what the numbers do i just read 644 at login
[08:50] <raylu> Machtin: http://rafb.net/p/EiSvTq90.html
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: and why does anyone outside your own group need access?
[08:51] <raylu> ActionParsnip: 4 = read, isn't that standard?
[08:51] <Machtin> raylu: thanks :)
[08:51] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: i have no idea what the numbers mean
[08:51] <raylu> Machtin: it didn't blow anything up?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> raylu: on his home folder with his ssh keys and emails and stored firefox passwords, not in my book
[08:52] <Machtin> raylu: didn't test yet
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: 7 = 4 + 2 + 1 == read, write and execute,
[08:52] <chichxongsoc105_> ok
[08:52] <Machtin> raylu: just wondering how to use it..
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: 5 = 4 + 1 = read and execute
[08:52] <raylu> Machtin: put it in a text file and either chmod +x it or run "sh filename"
[08:53] <Machtin> ah, and it just needs to be in that folder?
[08:53] <Machtin> i don't have to give * as argument or sth?
[08:53] <raylu> Machtin: nope. that's what the *.htm is for
[08:53] <raylu> Machtin: you could make it foo/bar/*.htm
[08:53] <Machtin> wonderful, thanks
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: so the owner will have full access, the members of the group owner will have read and execute access, the rest has zero access
[08:54] <dawid> can you tell me where Linux keeps shortcuts and paths to programs in the terminal ?
[08:54] <raylu> dawid: what shortcuts? paths are in $PATH
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> dawid: echo $PATH
[08:54] <Machtin> wonderful.. worked :) thanks raylu
[08:54] <raylu> Machtin: nice
[08:54] <lyhana8> hi, how could I change the mysql user ID correctly ?
[08:54] <lyhana8> actually I change it manually in /etc/passwd and /etc/group and now the server refuse to start
[08:54] <raylu> this sounds familiar...
[08:54] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: now its a little clearer
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> raylu: doesnt it just :(
[08:55] <AdvoWork> each day i have to open a terminal, do ssh user@ip then put in a password, then once connected have todo su user, then another command and then another command. Is there any way to automate this at all?
 if i write "mc" it will search for mc in $PATH ?
[08:55] <Boohbah> lyhana8: why would you want to do that?
[08:55] <raylu> AdvoWork: yes, but are you prepared for the security risk?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: if you are ssh-ing to an ubuntu box I would use sudo -i
[08:55] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: so why not 700?
[08:56] <lyhana8> Boohbah: to share DB among my gentoo and my kubuntu. Work fine with gentoo but not on ubuntu
[08:56] <s3r3n1t7> ActionParsnip, su <user> is only to switch from user to user, no need for the sudo pass on that
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: sure if yuo want nobody but the owner to have access (and sudo of course)
[08:56] <raylu> AdvoWork: edit your ~/.ssh/config by adding the following two lines:
[08:56] <bj0> dawid, yes
[08:56] <raylu> AdvoWork: Host <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:56] <raylu> AdvoWork: User asdf
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> s3r3n1t7: true, just used to people thinking sudo su is good
[08:56] <raylu> AdvoWork: that's the not-a-security-risk part.
[08:57] <Boohbah> lyhana8: if you change the uid then any files will still be owned by the old uid. you will have to chown them
[08:57] <ragedracer> sorry to intrude..  is any one here a expert with gnucash?
[08:57] <raylu> lyhana8: um... the other OSs can connect to the mysqld... that's... the point...
[08:57] <s3r3n1t7> ActionParsnip, got the same thoughts ... then read it again and didn't see the sudo there (then again, todo made me read sudo first)
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> s3r3n1t7: yeah same. oh well
[08:58] <lyhana8> raylu: yep i want to work on the same DB on both OS
[08:58] <raylu> lyhana8: right...
[08:58] <raylu> lyhana8: so apps on the other OS open tcp connection the mysqld on the first OS and it gets access to the exact same data
[08:59] <XiaolinDraconis> ActionParsnip: im going to try it again but is there a way to get back to login screen if it fails?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> raylu: i think we need to find these guides telling users to edit the passwd file, seems quite prevelent
[08:59] <lyhana8> raylu: both OS are on the same laptop
[08:59] <raylu> lyhana8: oh...
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: startx once logged in at terminal, or sudo gdm start
[08:59] <raylu> lyhana8: i have no idea what to tell you then.
[08:59] <XiaolinDraconis> x will already be started
[09:00] <XiaolinDraconis> if i login it kinda works
[09:00] <_motti_> raylu: from portforward.com This router has two different sections that allow you to forward ports. One section allows you to forward a range of ports, and the other allows you to forward a single port. To forward a range of ports, click Port Forwarding. To forward a single port, click Virtual Server.
[09:00] <raylu> ActionParsnip: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start might better
[09:00] <XiaolinDraconis> but i get no panel
[09:00] <XiaolinDraconis> or right click
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> raylu: that too ;)
[09:00] <raylu> _motti_: you'll want to forward 22 for now. eventually, you might want to configure passive ftp on a range of ports
[09:00] <lyhana8> where I can find guys working on the mysql's ubuntu version ?
[09:00] <XiaolinDraconis> ctrl+alt+backspace will get me a terminal right?
[09:01] <raylu> lyhana8: #ubuntu-dev, maybe
[09:01] <Machtin> XiaolinDraconis: it will restart your x-server
[09:01] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: maybe.
[09:01] <Machtin> for a tty try ctrl+alt+f<1-6>
[09:01] <XiaolinDraconis> i couldnt do anything in tty
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: sure if its already running
[09:01] <XiaolinDraconis> since user was still logged in and using x
[09:02] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: ctrl+z will stop a job without killing it
[09:02] <raylu> sometimes.
[09:02] <Machtin> XiaolinDraconis: you might need /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:02] <s3r3n1t7> raylu, it will pause a job
[09:02] <beli> lyhana8: mysql ubuntu version?
[09:02] <raylu> s3r3n1t7: technically, it becomes a 'stopped' job. sometimes.
[09:02] <Machtin> +sudo
[09:02] <raylu> s3r3n1t7: and it's sigstop anyway.
[09:02] <badri> hi
[09:02] <lyhana8> beli: yep
[09:03] <s3r3n1t7> raylu, yeah true .. but it's confusing, since most people associate stop with kill
[09:03] <raylu> s3r3n1t7: by the way, which is more powerful, kill or term?
[09:03] <XiaolinDraconis> ok ill go give this a try
[09:03] <beli> lyhana8: mysql devels have their own ubuntu release?
[09:03] <Machtin> i'd say kill!
[09:03] <raylu> beli: no, but ubuntu devels do
[09:03] <s3r3n1t7> raylu, kill can't be blocked, term can
[09:03] <raylu> s3r3n1t7: ok. i can never remember which is which
[09:04] <s3r3n1t7> raylu, assuming you mean kill as in kill -9
[09:04] <beli> raylu: i can't follow you.....any webinformation about that?
[09:04] <raylu> i mean kill as in SIGKILL. i can remember kill -9, but i forget which it sent
[09:04] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, why sudo -i?
[09:04] <raylu> beli: almost every single ubuntu package has been at least slightly modified by ubuntu devs
[09:04] <AdvoWork> raylu, i dont want any security risks really, so will editing .ssh/config and doing what you suggested fix that?
[09:04] <raylu> beli: even if it's just adding 'ubuntu' somewhere to the version string
[09:04] <s3r3n1t7> raylu, yeah, -9 sends kill signal, ==>  KILL       9   exit      cannot be blocked
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: i misread your question, my bad
[09:05] <sarmisak> s3r3n1t7: -9 is SIGKILL
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: thought you were using sudo su which isnt advised
[09:05] <raylu> AdvoWork: it will make it so that ssh <IP_ADDRESS> equivalent to ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:05] <lyhana8> beli: what do you mean ?
[09:05] <s3r3n1t7> sarmisak, i know
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> s3r3n1t7: -9 is the biggest hammer, no foolin
[09:05] <raylu> AdvoWork: if you want to avoid typing the ip all the time, you could then make an alias for 'ssh <IP_ADDRESS>' or make an environment variable for <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:05] <s3r3n1t7> ActionParsnip, yup
[09:06] <sarmisak> s3r3n1t7: and with -1 it kills everything
[09:06] <beli> raylu: he was speaking of an ubuntu version done my mysql folks...
[09:06] <s3r3n1t7> sarmisak, i know ....
[09:06] <beli> maybe it was just a language problem then...
[09:06] <raylu> beli: i'm pretty sure that's not what he meant
[09:06] <beli> raylu: thats what i was wondering about
[09:06] <scuser> hi all, could anyone give me a link to download a ubuntu iso image distribution that was shipped with gcc-2.95 ?
[09:07] <beli> lyhana8: what about ubuntus mysql package? any problems?
[09:07] <Boohbah> raylu, AdvoWork: actually i heard of this thing called the Domain Name System which among other things, translates names to ip addresses so you don't have to remember the number. great idea huh?
[09:07] <raylu> ...by 2.95, did you mean 3.3?
[09:07] <exco> who knows an out-of-the-box working draft n (300mbit) wlan usb-stick?
[09:07] <raylu> scuser: as far as i know, not even debian supports that gcc anymore
[09:07]  * beli detex: man 7 signal      for more information about signals
[09:08] <_motti__> raylu: Now, when I try to access my machine using my url I get an empty line
[09:08] <sarmisak> exco: tough one, have you googled for linux compatible hardware lists?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | exco
[09:08] <XiaolinDraconis> tada!
[09:08] <raylu> _motti__: by access, you don't mean 'open the url in firefox,' do you?
[09:08] <lyhana8> beli: yep it seem to have different config than the gentoo one as on gentoo changing: mysql user ID+files permissions was enough
[09:08] <sarmisak> ActionParsnip: that was what I was looking for ;)
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: all good
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ?
[09:08] <scuser> raylu: could I find some distribution with gcc less than 3.3, may be 3.2 or even less
[09:08] <XiaolinDraconis> ty ty
[09:08] <_motti__> raylu no. I mean ftp url
[09:08] <XiaolinDraconis> so far all is good
[09:08] <_motti__> raylu: command line
[09:08] <raylu> scuser: why?
[09:08] <XiaolinDraconis> sept my main menu icon is gone for some reason
[09:09] <beli> lyhana8: enough todo what? what are you going to do?
[09:09] <raylu> _motti__: what do you mean 'your url'?
[09:09] <_motti__> yotam1.myphotos.cc
[09:09] <_motti__> I have listed it on dyndns
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: ok well from now on. DO NOT mess with that file. EVER
[09:09] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: unless it's for fun
[09:09] <XiaolinDraconis> indeed
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: ive used linux for years now and never once had to
[09:10] <_motti__> raylu: yotam1.myphotos.cc
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: can you link me to the page you used as a guide please
[09:10] <XiaolinDraconis> i just didnt like the idea of not being the user who had total control over the system
[09:10] <raylu> _motti__: i see that. are you sure the dns entry points to the right place and the port forwarding is to the right ip?
[09:10] <XiaolinDraconis> lemme check my history
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: you do, with sudo
[09:10] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: if you wanted that, you  could run windows xp
[09:10] <AdvoWork> Boohbah, not really, i could use that but it goes on ip, typing ssh name is no easier than typing ssh ip but i want to just click it and automate every step
[09:10] <scuser> raylu: I have a source code that was compiled with an old compiler which should be less than 3.3, when I try to use any higher compiler the compiler produces errors, so I installed 2.95.deb and its deps and tried recompilation but things went worse as I received gcc internal error
[09:11] <lyhana8> beli: i'm trying to share DB among gentoo and kubuntu. So i need to have the same user ID for mysql on both system. I change it on both system then i need to change the file permission to the new user ID, i did it. It work fine on gentoo, but not on kubuntu where the server refuse to start
[09:11] <raylu> scuser: you can probably build gcc-2.95 from source... with a higher gcc... maybe...
[09:11] <XiaolinDraconis> raylu: why would you speak such inappropriate words
[09:11] <XiaolinDraconis> children might be present
[09:11] <scuser> raylu: well I tried but the build failed :(
[09:12] <_motti__> raylu: the router is ok. (I'm repeating messages I didn't place your name in them)
[09:12] <raylu> XiaolinDraconis: the point being, part of linux's security is in keeping users users and not giving the permission to muck with system files
[09:12] <simplexio> lyhana8: what error it gives
[09:12] <raylu> scuser: the build of gcc-2.95?
[09:12] <scuser> raylu: yes
[09:12] <simplexio> lyhana8: and are these mysql instances on difffrend computers ?
[09:13] <kaushal> hi
[09:13] <beli> lyhana8: dont mix things....permissions != uid/gid ....
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: linux uses proper access and restritedness where it is appropriate, windows default user model is admin which isnt appropriate and why they get so many issues
[09:13] <raylu> _motti__: then i'm not sure. either the dns entry is bad (check with the 'host' command) or your port forwarding isn't set up properly
[09:13] <_motti__> raylu, and nslookup my url give the internal ip of the router
[09:13] <raylu> _motti__: internal ip?
[09:13] <beli> lyhana8: you dont touch the permissions, but switch uid and gid
[09:13] <kaushal> how can i set ignore case while searching for any string uppercase or lowercase in man pages ?
[09:13] <_motti__> raylu: yeah, the ip I use to access my router
[09:13] <raylu> ActionParsnip: well, they fixed that in vista. except it asks you _after_ you try and do something and, consequently, makes people very frustrated
[09:14] <lyhana8> simplexio: the only error is the init script one: 'fail', and I don't understand why I'haven't any log
[09:14] <beli> lyhana8: use chown for that.....did you create a completly new group and user for mysql?
[09:14] <raylu> _motti__: yotam1.myphotos.cc has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:14] <raylu> _motti__: that seems correct to me. is that your router's WAN ip?
[09:14] <lyhana8> beli: yeah sorry mix the terms
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> raylu: windows security in that way is garbage, and whats worse is that some apps actually need write access to the %WINDIR% so you have to have some form of admin power, its preposterous
[09:14] <raylu> ActionParsnip: yep.
[09:15] <lyhana8> beli: nop just change the uid of the current mysql
[09:15] <simplexio> lyhana8: cat /etc/init.d/mysql and see what command it uses to start mysql, then use it command to start it and see error, or see /var/log/mysql log file if it exists, or syslog
[09:15] <XiaolinDraconis> here is the one that said to edit sudoers file
[09:15] <XiaolinDraconis> http://bobbyallen.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/how-to-give-a-standard-ubuntu-user-full-root-permissions/
[09:15] <beli> lyhana8: the init scripts are as the name says: scripts.... less /etc/init.d/mysql  and see how mysql is started...do it manually on the command line and you will get some errors
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> raylu: classic example is organizational charts in office 2003, needs access to the windows dir to run. MS fix says "oh make them power users"
[09:15] <beli> lyhana8: the uid or the username?
[09:15] <simplexio> lyhana8: and probably ubuntu tries to start mysql as mysql user, so mysql user gid must be same as gentoo mysql user
[09:15] <XiaolinDraconis> now im looking for the one about editing passwd
[09:16] <lyhana8> beli: the UID was 122 i put 8886
[09:16] <cheshair> hi! i'm having problems with brother mfc680cn printer drivers under ubuntu. i get ps documents printed as row text instead of postscript. do you happen to have any hints?
[09:16] <raylu> lyhana8, beli: most likely because the user it's running as doesn't have permissions to create logs :P
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> XiaolinDraconis: can you give me us thelink if you find it, you may also want to contact them yourself to tell him / er of your experience
[09:16] <XiaolinDraconis> will do
[09:16] <simplexio> lyhana8: thought i dont know about mysql, but postgresql uses that configuration. its allways run as postgresql user for better security
[09:17] <lyhana8> raylu: I check that too, and the mysql user was the owner of the log
[09:17] <beli> lyhana8: so lemme explain....what is hardcoded to a file on linux to verify permissions is the uid and the gid....username and group are just parsed from /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[09:17] <s3r3n1t7> XiaolinDraconis, uhm a note about that one, you can probably use the nopasswd function in the visudo file which is a lot safer.
[09:18] <souza> oi
[09:18] <beli> lyhana8: so you have to adjust file/dir permissions to the new uid
[09:18] <souza> oi
[09:18] <lyhana8> beli: I do exactly the same process on gentoo and ubuntu, gentoo work, ubuntu doesn't
[09:18] <beli> lyhana8: and? maybe gentoo isnt verifying stuff on mysqld startup
[09:19] <souza> alguem fala portugue
[09:19] <_motti__> raylu: no, the ip has changed,I still need to configure ez-ipupdate properly. I have update my ip in the dyndns server but I still get connection refused. are you sure that 22 is the ftp port?
[09:19] <beli> lyhana8: gentoo gives the user more control....thats not always good
[09:19] <lyhana8> beli: stuff like what ? the UID ?
[09:19] <Ubersoldat> !pr | souze
[09:19] <Ubersoldat> !ubuntu-pr | souza
[09:19] <souza> oi
[09:19] <raylu> _motti__: er, it's 21
[09:19] <beli> lyhana8: ownership and permissions
[09:19] <Ubersoldat> jeez
[09:19] <raylu> _motti__: if i said 22, sorry. that's sftp :P
[09:19] <beli> lyhana8: just start as root: /usr/sbin/mysqld
[09:19] <_motti__> yeah, I just wiki it.
[09:20] <souza> oi
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> 21 is FTP, 20 is ftp data (wasteful protocol)
[09:20] <_motti__> so sftp my url should work?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> souza: what?
[09:20] <lyhana8> beli: they do, i got error that make me realise that I should update the file UID
[09:20] <souza> aluguem fala portuges
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> !pt | souza
[09:20] <_motti__> ActionParsnip: she is Portuguese
[09:20] <raylu> _motti__: no, you don't have an sftp daemon running
[09:20] <mimiloon> hi everybody, i'm new to linux and i have a small problem with my wifi card; it works but not to it's full potential. it's atheros N series (AR5008 (AR5416)). it doesn't use the N protocol in ubuntu 8.1, any thought of getting this to improve? i have the drivers from windows but when i try to use the ndiswrapper, i'm unable to get it working
[09:20] <beli> lyhana8: just start it manually now and give me errors
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> _motti__: thats what !pt outputs in ;)
[09:21] <_motti__> raylu: ok, router time
[09:21] <Don_Miguel> Xcell, see my PM, please
[09:21] <_motti__> ActionParsnip: ok, sorry
[09:21] <beli> lyhana8: btw....did you alter the username too?
[09:21] <souza> nao sei como fazer isso
[09:21] <souza> so novo aqui
[09:22] <lyhana8> beli: the mysql user name ? no
[09:22] <beli> lyhana8: ok
[09:23] <souza> alguem fala minha libgua ai
[09:23] <Don_Miguel> raylu, got a moment free ?
[09:23] <souza> yes
[09:23] <raylu> Don_Miguel: yes
[09:23] <souza> sim
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> souza: Eu não falo o português
[09:24] <lyhana8> beli: I'm doing the process for the 2nd time (updating UID)
[09:24] <souza> bacana
[09:24] <souza> vc fala sim
[09:24] <souza> cx usa um tradutor?
[09:24] <beli> lyhana8: why not just start mysqld from console yourself as i told you?
[09:24] <Don_Miguel> raylu, thanks ... I tried Xcell's suggestion about using synaptic   'fix broken' and got ---- when synaptic goes to   fix broken packages/dependencies I get the error message      dpkg  unable to fill with padding .. no space left on device      /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.1           but ...     the Ubuntu 'Wubi partition' shows 14.6 GB  ...   there should be LOTS of space ...
[09:24] <Don_Miguel> :
[09:24] <mimiloon> i have a small problem with my wifi card; it works but not to it's full potential. it's atheros N series (AR5008 (AR5416)). it doesn't use the N protocol in ubuntu 8.1, any thought of getting this to improve? i have the drivers from windows but when i try to use the ndiswrapper, i'm unable to get it working
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Don_Miguel: sudo apt-get clean
[09:25] <lyhana8> beli: did it : http://pastebin.com/d440580a3
[09:25] <raylu> mimiloon: describe what yo mean by 'unable to get it working'
[09:25] <raylu> *you