[11:15] <acuster> hey all, ekiga is not finding the output device (sound-recorder works fine). Is there a way to confirm ALSA -> pulseaudio is working?
[11:15] <cryptk> here is a really odd, off the wall question...
[11:15] <ikonia> papul: I'm using 3.5.7 on 9.10
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> papul:  theres ppa's for the latest versions
[11:16] <cryptk> why is it... if I install Ubuntu from a CD with a different mouse, my G7 works flawlessly
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  it hates you :)
[11:16] <cryptk> if I install either from a USB drive, or with my G7 connected, or both, then my G7 freezes shortly after bootup
[11:16] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, not helpful
[11:16] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis:  papul  for 3.6  a ppa,  but that will be in the next Ubuntu anyway, released  April 29th
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  sounbds like some quirky usb issue.
[11:17] <cryptk> yep
[11:17] <euryale> what is a ppa?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  it fails to Install from usb or installs then fails to run properly?
[11:17] <cryptk> mint does the same exact thing
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[11:17] <cryptk> I haven't tried it with straight debian yet
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> dirty usb port?
[11:17] <robbit10> sebsebseb: One part of the problem has been fixed! It appeared the lens was dirty, and now it DOES start up from the Windows XP cd! But not from the Ubuntu cd...
[11:17] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, it will install fine from USB, just my G7 will freeze up after bootup
[11:17] <sebsebseb> euryale: sort of like mini repo's that can be added,   a way people can get later packages when they aren't in the repo's yet,  however having to many ppa's installed might cause issues
[11:17] <cryptk> other mice work great
[11:18] <matt__>  /join #italia
[11:18] <cryptk> only the G7 causes the problem, but with the G7 freezes it causes all kinds of other USB issues
[11:18] <kohar> acuster yea somewhere on ubuntuforum was how to
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> Points to a G7 issue..  I guess
[11:18]  * Dr_Willis wonders what a G7 is...
[11:18] <[eXception]> hi
[11:18] <cryptk> like new USB devices that are connected will not be picked up (no message in dmesg), unplugging a USB device after the G7 freezes wil register in dmesg, but reconnecting them won't work
[11:18] <cryptk> all kinds of weird crap
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> wonder if its pullng too much powar.
[11:19] <cryptk> but if I install from a CD, with a different mouse, it works great
[11:19] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Success! It booted! The lens was dirty, that was all.
[11:19] <ionut> what is a DHCP ?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> !dhcp
[11:19] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, it can't be that because the mouse works flawless in winblows and it also works flawless if I install via CD with the G7 disconnected
[11:19] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok good
[11:19] <sebsebseb> :)
[11:19] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, see why i am scratching my head here
[11:20] <robbit10> sebsebseb: :) thanks for the help
[11:20] <cryptk> I am interested to try with straight debian to see if it is an issue with deb or with ubuntu
[11:20] <sebsebseb> robbit10: np
[11:20] <seon> how can i obtain informations about a website with a shell command?
[11:20] <cryptk> my test with mint didn't reveal much since it is based on Ubuntu
[11:20] <cryptk> lol
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> seon:  what sort of info?
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[11:20] <SNIPER0215><PHONE_NUMBER>46
[11:21] <robbit10> sebsebseb: No offense, but Mandriva looks.. unpolished, and not ready for main use. Not much content on the site, for example.
[11:21] <seon> Dr_Willis> the owner, contact infos
[11:21] <cryptk> damn, floodbot is really fast, lol
[11:21] <sebsebseb> ikonia: keeping your eye on the channel :)
[11:21] <kaki> hiii world
[11:21] <cryptk> ikonia, was that an automated kick? or are you just that fast, lol
[11:22] <ikonia> I'm quick
[11:22] <cryptk> nice, lol
[11:22] <robbit10> I like the new policy that states you may just discuss your removal from the channel :)
[11:22] <cryptk> btw guys... just wanted to tell a LINUX success story... I am getting hired on at a new company to be a LINUX software administrator for 50K/year
[11:22] <cryptk> play with linux, it CAN pay!
[11:22] <ikonia> cryptk: not really on topic here
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> 'discuss your removal, and let us insult you more...' :)
[11:22] <lvlint> seon, whois domain.com
[11:22] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: please
[11:22] <cryptk> who ever doubted free/OSS software, lol
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  did you pad your resume>
[11:23] <sebsebseb> robbit10: talking about removeale could be done before, and a bit off topic talking about this really
[11:23] <cryptk> ikonia, sorry, just throught that I woudl mention it since Ubuntu is what got me started with linux
[11:23] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, no
[11:23] <ikonia> cryptk: I understand
[11:23] <Seveas> cryptk, 50k in which currency? Tutkish lira? :)
[11:23] <cryptk> lol
[11:23] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Ah, true.
[11:23] <sebsebseb> robbit10:  not you,   cryptk    right let's try and get this auto complete sorted out properly
[11:23] <seon> lvlint> thanks
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> if i put 'spends all day doing Ubuntu Support Online' in a resume would it be a lie?  heh.
[11:24] <sebsebseb> and keep an eye on who said what better again
[11:24] <Seveas> cryptk, if the answer is 'us dollar', you're underpaid ;)
[11:24] <kaki> Dr Willis please i have a probleme in compiz i can't activing 3D desktop
[11:24] <System-7> If you're making money off Linux, I think it's enough ;)
[11:24] <cryptk> kaki, did you install vid card drivers?
[11:24] <ikonia> ok chaps, lets move it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:24] <kaki> yes
[11:24] <kaki> of course
[11:25] <cryptk> did you enable desktop effects?
[11:25] <kaki> yes
[11:25] <cryptk> is it giving you any errors?
[11:25] <kaki> no
[11:25] <cryptk> do you have the "wobbley windows" when you drag them around?
[11:25] <kaki> i have intel graohik card
[11:25] <kaki> yes
[11:26] <cryptk> and your Visual Effects is set to 'Extra' right?
[11:26] <kaki> right
[11:26] <robbit10> How do I make the Live CD store changes such as drive installs?
[11:26] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you don't
[11:26] <cryptk> then you have 3d desktop, you just need to install the compiz config setting manager
[11:26] <sebsebseb> robbit10: yo ucan save stuff onto a USB  stick whilst using the Live CD for example though
[11:26] <robbit10> erm
[11:26] <robbit10> oops
[11:26] <robbit10> driver*
[11:26] <kaki> i have installed it
[11:26] <kaki> with fuulk functions
[11:26] <papul> sebsebseb: yes there was a mistake i want 3.6 how to use ppa for that?
[11:26] <robbit10> guess i'll use Wubi to test it out then.
[11:26] <kaki> i can enable all effects
[11:26] <kohar> kaki try fusion-icon | sudo aptitude install fusion-icon
[11:26] <kaki> but the  3D desktop no
[11:27] <sebsebseb> papul: Why do you want 3.6?
[11:27] <kaki> ok  kohar
[11:27] <papul> sebsebseb: coz it is latest
[11:27]  * __doc__ steams
[11:27] <sebsebseb> papul: Thought that was why
[11:27] <Seveas> papul,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-3-6-stable-from-ubuntu-ppa.html
[11:27] <cryptk> kaki, do you mean the 3d cube for swapping desktops?
[11:27] <Seveas> __doc__, go __init__ yourself ;)
[11:28] <sebsebseb> papul: yes there are advantages in 3.6 over 3.5.7 of course, but really 3.5.7 would probably be fine for you.  Also newer is not always better!   You will also get 3.6  in the next Ubuntu  released April 29th.
[11:28] <agruman> my system is terrible at multitasking when io usage is high, example when extracting archives or copying files, i have to wait really long for even the simplest application to start, i am unable to scroll in firefox aso. I am using nf4 fakeraid on 2 500gb sata drives and io as such is ok speeds, my machine is a 2.6ghz amd but cpu utilization is below 10%, currently using karmic, was same in jaunty. What could be the problem?
[11:28] <cryptk> kaki, what part of 3d desktop isn't working?
[11:28] <kaki> yes cryptk
[11:28] <ikonia> agruman: fake raid is a key problem already
[11:28] <__doc__> ubuntu 9.10, wacom tablet, great, it works out of the box, *NOT GREAT* no f... way to map the input range to one monitor/window --> absolutely terribly beyond relief unusable with GIMP
[11:28] <kaki> when the desktop tourn like a cube
[11:28] <Seveas> sebsebseb, meh, it's in a good ppa (mozillateam knows what they do) so just use it ;)
[11:28] <cryptk> ahh, do you have 'Desktop Cube' enabled in ccsm?
[11:29] <agruman> ikonia, well i dual boot, and it works fine in winxp / 7. Though they ofc have binary drivers
[11:29] <kaki> yeahh
[11:29] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:29] <cryptk> and desktop wall disabled
[11:29] <cryptk> the two aren't compatible
[11:29] <faz_kn> anybody temme
[11:29] <ikonia> agruman: so, windows is a different technology, fake raid is a.) a terrible technology b.) even worse in linux
[11:29] <kaki> yes
[11:29] <faz_kn> here
[11:29] <bluephase> hi all, does anybody know about webdav connections?
[11:29] <cryptk> is "Rotate Cube" enabled
[11:29] <kaki> yes
[11:30] <papul> and why does firefox update not work as in windows?
[11:30] <kaki> this what make me crazy
[11:30] <cryptk> hold down control and alt then left click and drag left and right
[11:30] <cryptk> does it start to spin?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> papul:  because windows is not linux.
[11:30] <agruman> ikonia, well perhaps, but io is running at good speeds if i only run io, and its thesame if i extract to a nfs drive
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> papul:  ubuntu uses repositories for software.
[11:30] <sebsebseb> Seveas: well  having to add ppa's in the first place (or install the software some other way) for  major later stuff, Firefox, Open Office, etc, or  wait for the next release, is a bit silly really, but whatever I guess. Also some users will find it difficult to add a ppa.
[11:30] <bluephase> im trying to copy some files from a webdav connection.  The files include folders and when I paste them instead of pasting the folders and the contents it just pastes a html link to the folder?
[11:30] <ikonia> agruman: I have no idea what you just said
[11:30] <kaki> yes it turne like cylinder
[11:30] <ikonia> agruman: but fakeraid will be a BIG factor in your problem
[11:30] <sebsebseb> !firefox | papul
[11:31] <cryptk> papul, the respository is a much different way of working with software and updates, but after you learn how they work you will love them and miss them when using windows
[11:31] <cryptk> kaki, then it is working
[11:31] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:31] <cryptk> kaki, do you want to know how to add more sides to the cube? what is the problem?
[11:31] <agruman> ikonia, do you have any idea in how i could determine if that is it?
[11:31] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in ubuntu???
[11:31] <kaki> thanks lot cryptk
[11:31] <cryptk> kaki, the cube has the same number of sides as you have workspaces
[11:32] <agruman> ikonia, because im not so certain myself, since i experience the same problems when loading nfs-drives with io
[11:32] <kaki> yes 4
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  should be under the settings menus/tools  somewhere
[11:32] <cryptk> add more by right clicking on the workspace portion of the taskbar at the bottom right, hit properties and add more
[11:32] <ikonia> agruman: a.) read all the known and famous problems with fake raid b.) run a single drive configuartion see if it's any better c.) run io statistics and see where the bottle neck is, probably cpu wait time controlling the fake raid controller
[11:32] <sagaci> faz_kn: system > preferences > display
[11:32] <kaki> ok
[11:32] <cryptk> kaki, enable 3d windows too for another nice effect while rotating the cube
[11:32] <Leitti> hi all
[11:32] <bluephase> anybody? webdav?
[11:33] <cryptk> makes the windows pop out off the surface of the cube
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> !webdav
[11:33] <kaki> ok i will try now
[11:33] <PJC80LA08> I have a question regarding Wubi.  The executable file for Wubi installer won't run on my Thinkpad T43.  What is the fix for this?
[11:33] <Leitti> is there any way to customize ubuntu easily for web usage
[11:33] <bluephase> !webdav
[11:33] <ikonia> Leitti: for web usage ?
[11:33] <cryptk> Leitti, explain what you mean
[11:33] <faz_kn> how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:33] <kaki> wawwwwoooo
[11:33] <kaki> thank you cryptk
[11:33] <faz_kn> .............how to increase resolution in xubuntu???
[11:33] <cryptk> kaki, cool huh
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  use the tools in the menus
[11:33] <Leitti> yes, i would just browse internet and use irc
[11:33] <faz_kn> anybody knows how
[11:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Wubi  can go wrong on people and such, and it's better to use real partitions in the long run.
[11:34] <kaki> yeah
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  or clarify the problem more
[11:34] <kaki> i love u man
[11:34] <euryale> !webdav
[11:34] <agruman> ikonia, thanks, do you know of any good io benchmarking utility?
[11:34] <ikonia> faz_kn: calm down - stop asking every 10 seconds please
[11:34] <ikonia> agruman: iostat
[11:34] <ikonia> agruman: sar
[11:34] <agruman> ikonia, thanks alot
[11:34] <cryptk> kaki, most of the efects will have a 'bindings' tab, that has what you use to control them
[11:34] <faz_kn> it says just 800x just i need 1240...
[11:34] <kaki> ok
[11:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: right so you want to dual boot with Windows?
[11:34] <cryptk> and you can change the bindings also to customize it to what you wanyt
[11:34] <kohar> Dr_Willis i think he mean webdev =)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  NOW you are actually getting to the actual question....
[11:34] <faz_kn> yah
[11:35] <thecliff> faz_kn; do you have the driver installed for your video card?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  install the proper drivers for your viudeo card to make all res'a avail it can do.
[11:35] <PJC80LA08> So the answer given regarding Wubi - I assume this answer is based on several similar scenarios experienced by many users so far - "tested, tried, and true" ???
[11:35] <faz_kn> how???
[11:35] <cryptk> Leitti, you mean make it so it can ONLY browse the internet and do IRC?
[11:35] <acuster> is there supposed to be an /etc/asound.conf file or is this a really old approach (docs from 2007)?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  and your video card is a ?
[11:35] <thecliff> faz_kn, what video card are you using?
[11:35] <faz_kn> i don't know
[11:35] <papul> i also want thunderbird 3
[11:35] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: the answer is,  oh well nevermind so it doesn't work, avoide it anyway,  :)   doesn't take much to set up a proper partitioned install
[11:35] <faz_kn> is there anyway to get it
[11:36] <faz_kn> i mean i just installed it...
[11:36] <Leitti> cryptk, yes and rhytmbox + vlc :D
[11:36] <faz_kn> xubuntu....
[11:36] <photon> hey. I'm using ubuntu 9.04, I don't like to upgrade to 9.10, but still use the latest version of one editor I like (geany). Is there a way to update Geany without having to compile it myself?
[11:36] <thecliff> faz_kn, try Systems > Administration > Hardware Driver and see if Ubuntu picks up your driver
[11:36] <faz_kn> okay
[11:36] <faz_kn> wait
[11:36] <cryptk> so you want to limit it to only those things
[11:36] <sebsebseb> photon: there might be a ppa
[11:36] <faz_kn> mu os is xubuntu.....
[11:36] <thecliff> faz_kn: do you know if you have an AMD or Intel processor?
[11:36] <cryptk> Leitti, or you want to add those things in?
[11:36] <faz_kn> intel
[11:36] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | PJC80LA08
[11:36] <Leitti> cryptk, i only need those
[11:37] <thecliff> faz_kn, could go either way then.  let me know what happens in Hardware Drivers
[11:37] <Leitti> cryptk, i will do other things with my other computer
[11:37] <cryptk> Leitti, just remove anything you don't want with synaptic
[11:37] <faz_kn> okay
[11:37] <faz_kn> it's searchin
[11:37] <cryptk> Leitti, you can also add in things like vls in synaptic also
[11:37] <Leitti> cryptk, is there any risk a would delete something critical-+
[11:37] <cryptk> s/vls/vlc/
[11:38] <papul> how to get thunderbird 3?
[11:38] <Leitti> i would
[11:38] <sebsebseb> papul: I think there might be a ppa
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> papul:  search for a PPA of it is one way
[11:38] <ikonia> papul: it's currently not packaged in the stable repos
[11:38] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, is there is any quick web documentation, guidance, instructions, on how to do this proper partitioned install?  I just purchased this Thinkpad, and I refuse to run Windows anymore.  I want Ubuntu, but still want Windows in tact and able to be recovered.  My restore discs are already created ...
[11:38] <sebsebseb> papul: as far as I know that will also be in the next Ubuntu
[11:38] <cryptk> Leitti, don't just go randomly removing things, just look at when is in the menus that you don't want and remove them, be careful removing things that arent in the applications menu
[11:38] <bluephase> so we're drawing a blank on a webdav connection to an iphone?
[11:38] <faz_kn> it says no proprietry drivers
[11:38] <cryptk> Leitti, may I ask why you want to limit it to only those things?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Theres secure.. then thers paranoid :)
[11:39] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: well the link I got the bot to give you,  but I can guide you through partitioning in here or pm, no problem
[11:39] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, exactly... lol
[11:39] <papul> why are new versions of software available in future repos?
[11:39] <sebsebseb> papul: future versions
[11:39] <papul> and not available in the current one?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> papul:  err because thats how it works,,
[11:39] <ikonia> papul: because they take time to build and package
[11:39] <cryptk> papul, what do you mean future repos?
[11:39] <faz_kn> it says no proprietry driver......
[11:39] <papul> like 10.4
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> papul:  ubuntu uses a 6 mo release schedule
[11:39] <cryptk> there are beta repos, those repos have software that is still in testing
[11:39] <sebsebseb> papul:  also since Ubuntu tend to only provide security updates from the repo's
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> papul:  eveyr 6 mo stuff gets updated
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> !schedule
[11:40] <thecliff> faz_kn: open terminal and enter "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:40] <faz_kn> wait
[11:40] <thecliff> read through this file and see what video card is listed
[11:40] <papul> Dr_Willis: but others must be able to install the latest versions when they want and not wait for future versions
[11:40] <rabbi1> Dr. Willis?
[11:40] <papul> sorry not repo its version
[11:40] <cryptk> the version numbers of ubuntu are not just versions, they are also dates
[11:40] <rabbi1> could u help me with my LAMPP connections?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> papul:  ubuntu dosent work that way. It uses a 6 Mo relase schedule.
[11:41] <cryptk> ubuntu 9.10 was released in 2009 in october (the 10th month)
[11:41] <ikonia> rabbi1: what's the issue
[11:41] <sebsebseb> papul: there's this big idea that it's best to get the latest versions of stuff, and oh just to get it, because it is the latest.   That is not always the case, sometimes newer stuff really is better.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> papul:  if you want newer. then use ppa's or other unsupported./offcial sources
[11:41] <sebsebseb> papul: uh older stuff at the end there
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> !best
[11:41] <cryptk> next one will be 10.4 (2001 in April)
[11:41] <rabbi1> ikonia, MySQL Deactivated
[11:41] <cryptk> err 2010, not 2001, lol
[11:42] <ikonia> rabbi1: start it then
[11:42] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, I have that webpage up here now.  I already downloaded the ISO for Ubuntu 9.10.  It looks like creating an Ubuntu LiveCD is involved ...  I do need to get some sleep.  I am in the U.S. on Pacific Time - it's currently 3:41 AM here.  What time would work for you later on today - you said PM.  Where are you at - and what is your time zone in relation to mine?
[11:42] <rabbi1> after installation of XAMPP, i ran complete security process
[11:42] <sebsebseb> papul: most users probably shoudn't really be using ppa's in the first place,  but if you really must have the latest Firefox, Thunderbird, or whatever it is, well ok then ppa's
[11:42] <ikonia> rabbi1: why are you using xammp and not just a standard lamp install
[11:42] <thecliff> faz_kn: another tool I use is Sysinfo.  You can install this by going to Terminal and entering "sudo apt-get install sysinfo" and then entering your password.  this will give you an easy to use GUI interface and tell all hardware information abut you box
[11:42] <rabbi1> it asked for new pwds, now, all events are running except MySQL
[11:42] <cryptk> brb
[11:42] <faz_kn> it says no gedit install here.... install it by typing something.....
[11:42] <ikonia> rabbi1: xampp is a terrible process that makes things pointlessly hard and breaks compatability and packaging process
[11:43] <ikonia> rabbi1: I'd suggest trying to remove it and just do a standard lamp install, or contact the xammp support people
[11:43] <Seveas> rabbi1, you installed xampp --> you won't get support here
[11:43] <rabbi1> ok ikonia, will do that
[11:43] <thecliff> faz_kn: another tool I use is Sysinfo.  You can install this by going to Terminal and entering "sudo apt-get install sysinfo" and then entering your password.  this will give you an easy to use GUI interface and tell all hardware information abut you box --- use this instead
[11:43] <rabbi1> i know seveas, i am trying to remove it
[11:43] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: oh i'll probably be in here for  another  12 hours or so,  probably a bit more then that,  just won't be at my computer all that time of course
[11:43] <papul> why isn't a deb file available for this software
[11:44] <Seveas> papul, which software?
[11:44] <papul> i shall ask in irc.mozilla.org
[11:44] <ikonia> papul: you've been told why, it takes time to build and package
[11:44] <ikonia> that won't change ubuntu's packages
[11:44] <papul> sorry to disturb u with non related stuff
[11:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: plus i'll probably be in there tommorow Sunday
[11:44] <rabbi1> ikonia, pls provide the any link, if u know for removing XAMPP and using standard LAMP
[11:44] <ikonia> rabbi1: I don't have a link for remocing xampp
[11:44] <faz_kn> chat in pvt........
[11:46] <ionut> does anyone knows an application to watch in streaming tv programs on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[11:46] <ikonia> ionut: mythtv can record and stream tv to clients
[11:46] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: OK - maybe I can give a whack at myself when I get up - and then if I have issues - I can get a hold of you.  So cool to finally get the answers I need on here at like 4 AM !!!
[11:46] <rabbi1> ikonia, a link where i can find the normal LAMP for ubuntu 8.04
[11:47] <ikonia> install php5, apache2 and mysql or taskselect install lamp
[11:47] <ikonia> !lamp | rabbi1
[11:47] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: using the guided install is pretty easy, but  setting up a seperate /home  is better in the long run
[11:48] <rabbi1> thx, thts done for me
[11:48] <rabbi1> i guess ;)
[11:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no seperate /home if using guided install
[11:48] <pochi> oh hai! just upgraded to 9.10, and networking doesn't work. Found a description of the bug, and someone suggested i install wicd instead of network-manager. but without network ... how?
[11:49] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, what do you mean by a "separate /home"? And why? Do you mean separate home directory?  OK - so if using the guided install doesn't allow for this, how do I do it?
[11:50] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: manual install
[11:50] <faz_kn> anybody knows how to increase resolution and exceed the limit of that????????
[11:50] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: easier to set up before installing, than after woulds, well I never have set one up after woulds
[11:51] <PJC80LA08> OK - so can we set up the /home now in Windows?
[11:51] <PJC80LA08> Shouldn't take too long, should it?
[11:51] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no all this is done on a Live CD.   Well if you got Vista you should let it resize itself, and  it's probably like this with Windows 7 as well.
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  have you figured out what video card you are using yet?
[11:52] <faz_kn> nothing card
[11:52] <faz_kn> chat in pvt
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  i dont chat in pvt. sorry,.
[11:52] <ikonia> please stop asking for private chat
[11:52] <faz_kn> okay
[11:52] <faz_kn> so i've installed sysinfo
[11:52] <faz_kn> and gedit also
[11:52] <faz_kn> now what to do
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> I suggest using the normal ubuntu faz_kn  not xubuntu.  but if you got sysinfo installed.. then run it and see what it says
[11:52] <faz_kn> in drivers 't says that no proprietry driver found
[11:52] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb, I am running Windows XP Pro.  How is the creation of "/home" done with the LiveCD, then?
[11:53] <faz_kn> it says ati card
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  any specific make/model #'s ?
[11:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok so you can re size the XP partition no problem using the LIve CD then, but probably should back up any data just in case something happens first of course
[11:53] <viktor_> im having some problems with my firewall/fileserver, ever since i updated it, it has pretty mcuh stopped working. it runs, samba server, i usually vnc to it, i can not connect to the samba shares anymore after the latest update and i can start vnc remotly but it crashes as soon as i try to do something with it. 2 questions, what is the name of the vnc server process? and anyone else having similar problems with their firewall and sa
[11:53] <viktor_> oh and this was written over ssh from it
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  how are you starting vnc anyway?  i normally ssh in and run vncserver
[11:54] <ikonia> viktor_: drop your firewall for testing
[11:54] <viktor_> both sound great, how do i do that
[11:54] <faz_kn> ati technologies 3d rage
[11:54] <faz_kn> ......
[11:54] <viktor_> ikonia, uninstall?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> how did you even set up  the firewall viktor_ ?
[11:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: /home is where  your data and program user data will go,   by having one re installing Ubuntu for example will be easier
[11:55] <ikonia> viktor_: no, just stop it
[11:55] <viktor_> sudo apt-get install firestarter dr willis
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  thats just a front end to the firewall system
[11:55] <faz_kn> it says ati tech 3d rage card.........
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  im not sure that by default will even add any actual firewall rules.
[11:55] <agruman> ikonia, seems to be %iowait, was up over 90% when the system lagged out, but now im extracting to a nfs-mounted device and raid io was almost 0.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> viktor_:  run firestarter and tell it to stop the firewall perhaps.
[11:55] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: K - so is resizing the XP partition a pretty user friendly process?  I am pretty new to this stuff.  And then where does the creation of /home come into play?  You would then create this on the XP partition?
[11:56] <Dayman_Fighterof> hey guys....anyone having troible with cairo dock centering?... change possition works on my laptop but not my netbook..........
[11:56] <ikonia> agruman: cpu will still be used to keep the fakeraid active
[11:56] <faz_kn> talk to me........
[11:56] <ikonia> !ati | faz_kn
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  i dont use ati cards so no idea on how supported that one is.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> faz_kn:  so thers no point in msging me.
[11:57] <agruman> ikonia, ok, will need to dig deeper into this ..
[11:57] <bluephase> I'm trying to copy some folders from my iPhone to Ubuntu 9.10 via a WebDav connection.  However if I copy a folder it only generates a link, rather than copying the files themselves?  Can anybody explain this please?
[11:57] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: guided install with no seperate /home is fine really for most users,  however what I just put regarding /home  which is why a lot of more experienced users tend to do it
[11:57] <kaki> faz_kn  try envyNG
[11:57] <thecliff> faz_kn, go to Apps > Ubuntu Software Center > install ATI catalyst control
[11:57] <playboy> nnn
[11:58] <peach> contactos
[11:58] <ikonia> ?
[11:58] <peach> olaaa
[11:58] <viktor_> dr willis, can we return to the vnc, the "server" i am talking about is running with gnome, on a regular ubuntu 9.10 install, so all i did was change the "remote-deskto" ssettings from preferences to get it running, what process is it in fact using for that?
[11:58] <Guest632> olaa
[11:58] <ikonia> Guest632: hello, this channel is English only
[11:58] <ikonia> !es | Guest632
[11:59] <Guest632> tu quien eres?
[11:59] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK, so I get it.  /home would go on the XP partition, which is why you would resize it first.  Maybe the guided install with no separate /home would work just fine for me then.  Your /home is kind of like your Ubuntu backup then, I take it?
[11:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: 1. backup any important data in XP.  2.  have you checked your ISO I guess not, that's  a good thing to do, md5sum check to make sure you have a good download.  3.  burn contents of ISO to CD.   4.  boot computer from it.   5. test hardware Internet for example.   6. if 5 was a success start installer  and install Ubuntu using guided with no sperate home being created,  or  using manual where one can be made
[11:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no
[11:59] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Wubi would put  Ubuntu inside  XP
[12:00] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: however  your going to do a proper partitioned install :)   which means you need to have space on your hard disk for Ubuntu,
[12:00] <viktor_> return to vnc, the "server" i am talking about is running with gnome, on a regular ubuntu 9.10 install, so all i did was change the "remote-deskto" ssettings from preferences to get it running, what process is it in fact using for that?
[12:00] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you probably don't have free space on your hard disk at the moment for Ubuntu, and so XP would be resized to make that space
[12:02] <paddy_melon> hey guys, can anyone help me? I want to create a wireless Access Point (preferrably a proper one, not an ad-hoc one) that simply makes all those on the network connect to the Intranet? Is this possible? Without anything else, EG I can do it nowhere near another access point
[12:02] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: with a seperate /home  you can just keep your data there.  and program user data, Firefox profile for example, then just re install Ubuntu and any programs you added to it after the default install
[12:02] <ikonia> paddy_melon: you need either an accedd point device or a machine to act as a server with a wirless card in to act as an authentication/dhcp/router device
[12:03] <maddux> question:  how to compare a good installation (same machine)  with a bad one --- one that video flakes out and you can't read it?    whats a good place to start?   the bad one i can only get into the command line
[12:03] <ikonia> maddux: are the machines the same ?
[12:04] <paddy_melon> ikonia, I can't become that machine? Seems weird (like 12 mb of ram and 4 mbs of Flash vs a Core 2 duo, etc._
[12:04] <maddux> ikonia, yes, they are
[12:04] <ikonia> paddy_melon: you can use what ever device you want,
[12:04] <paddy_melon> ikonia, is there software in ubuntu to do it?
[12:04] <ikonia> maddux: what's the differences in installations, eg: different versions of linux, different archs 32/64
[12:05] <viktor_> does anyone know what the name of the default ubnutu 9.10 remote-desktop service, process it is actually using for vnc? or should i just install a separate vnc server ?
[12:05] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you would have three partitions for Ubuntu.  1.  /  which is like C in Windows  that's Ubuntu itself.   2.  seperate /home :)   3.  a swap partition which is  like  virtual memory in Windows
[12:05] <paddy_melon> oh, sorry ikonia, read your post wrong so, what software do I need?
[12:05] <ikonia> paddy_melon: not as a single package, but as multiple individuals ones, sure, eg: dhcp server, authmethods like ldap/kerberos,
[12:05] <paddy_melon> ikonia, what about the actual creating of the access point and, broadcastin?
[12:05] <ikonia> that's a very complex process
[12:05] <Seveas> paddy_melon, have a look at chilispot
[12:06] <paddy_melon> Thanks seveas/Ikonia
[12:06] <maddux> only diff is that one is a usb install that hadnt be used for a long time, and the other is actually on the drive.  before the problem, i had installed many apps..perhaps and update or app broke it, not sure.   that would be the only diff between the two
[12:07] <ikonia> maddux: what version of ubuntu and what arch ?
[12:07] <maddux> 9.10 and 32 bit
[12:07] <ikonia> maddux: what video card is in it ?
[12:07] <paddy_melon> Seveas, will ChiliSpot use my wifi card to create a network?
[12:07] <ikonia> paddy_melon: it will use your card as a connection device
[12:07] <maddux> its a netbook so i am not sure on it. the common one for asus eeepc (he1000)
[12:07] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[12:07] <Seveas> paddy_melon, I've never used it myself so I won't be more useful that saying 'go look at it'
[12:07] <ikonia> paddy_melon: if you read the requirements you still need a wirless lan access point, a raidus server a web server etc
[12:08] <paddy_melon> ok, I'll take a look
[12:08] <dwessell> Is there a good article for how to get suexec working with Ubuntu? I can't find much in the way of documentation.
[12:08] <ikonia> maddux: if you do lspci you should be able to see, I don't know the eeepc options to be honest
[12:08] <paddy_melon> oh, Ikonia, then, what does work, surely my 1000 buck computer can serve hotspots: something a 50 dollar router can
[12:09] <ikonia> paddy_melon: the physical hardware is not important
[12:09] <WaterRatj> how would i make a line for opening a .deb with dpkg -i?
[12:09] <ikonia> paddy_melon: what part of "I've told you any hardware can do it" am I not making clear to you ?
[12:09] <maddux> 945GM
[12:09] <ikonia> maddux: intel card, should be well supported then
[12:09] <paddy_melon> ikonia, so, You're saying that only a router can do it>
[12:09] <ikonia> maddux: on the broke install is X not starting, or is it started and garbled
[12:10] <ikonia> paddy_melon: NO, ANY hardware can do it
[12:10] <ikonia> paddy_melon: I just said that a few lines above
[12:10] <robbit10> Hi people. When installing Ubuntu, out of haste, i made a typo in the password and now I can't login. I've booted into single-user mode, but, now what? When i use passwd robbit10, it gives "Authentication token manipulation error"
[12:10] <maddux> its gnome i guess to say.  it becomes garbled on starting.
[12:10] <paddy_melon> ikonia, then how can I do it with that? I can't find the software, that's why I came here
[12:10] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok no problem
[12:10] <researcher1> how can I install google chrome in ununbtu 9.10
[12:10] <ikonia> paddy_melon: I've told you the software you need, and the chillispot software is a good exmaple also
[12:10] <sebsebseb> robbit10: boot up the recovery mode from the Grub boot loader
[12:11] <sebsebseb> robbit10: get the root shell and then  passwd username  and put in a new password
[12:11] <paddy_melon> ikonia, DHCP, router and authentication != a hotspot that will broadcast
[12:11] <ikonia> paddy_melon: yes it is
[12:11] <erUSUL> researcher1: there is a ppa with daily build of chromium
[12:11] <ikonia> paddy_melon: that's the software you need
[12:11] <robbit10> sebsebseb: thanks :D
[12:11] <erUSUL> !ppa | researcher1
[12:12] <researcher1> how do I get that PPA for google chrome browser?
[12:12] <ikonia> paddy_melon: as chillispot suggests a radius (open radius) server is probably a better authentication method than ldap as I suggested
[12:12] <paddy_melon> ikonia, ok, thanks, but, which software creates a hotspot? A router like pfsense won't do it , DHCP is for the resolving of hosts... what's the authentication then?
[12:12] <ikonia> paddy_melon: the documentation on the chillispot software seems quite solid
[12:13] <ikonia> paddy_melon: dhcp is not for resolving hosts, the authentication is what will authenticate users to connect to you as you are acting as the hotspot
[12:13] <paddy_melon> ikonia, OK, I'll take a look, thanks
[12:13] <sebsebseb> robbit10: np :)
[12:13] <paddy_melon> ikonia, but, doesn't the access point need to be created before we go into authentication? Anyway, I probably need to read the chilispot stuff, thnx
[12:14] <netman1> Do homeplugs (ethernet over power), block multicast (eg. mediatomb/<IP_ADDRESS>) by design? If so, what's the rationale?
[12:14] <ikonia> paddy_melon: yes, your machine will need to act as an access point, so it needs a wirless connection, broadcasting SSID, with dhcp/authentication hooked into it, then your machine will need to be configured as a network router to get the clients on to the internet
[12:14] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - so I have about 28 GB left of hard disk space.  I don't really have any data to back up - because I just got this computer and started using it.  What is md5sum?  Does creating the LiveCD simply consist of placing the ISO file onto the disk - and then the computer will read the ISO file when the disc is inserted?  What do you mean by "test Internet hardware" ?  Are there solid instructions readily available fo
[12:14] <viktor_> hi guys! i have a ubuntu machine i am used to vnc to from a windows machine, all i did was set up remote-desktop access from the default ubuntu preferences, this has worked great for long. but now when i try to connect to if after a restart it works but crashes when i try to do something else than move my mouse, open folder or so. and after that i can not connect to the machine at all anymore. where should i start trying to solve th
[12:15] <robbit10> sebsebseb: yay :D it worked
[12:15] <sebsebseb> robbit10: :)
[12:15] <paddy_melon> ikonia, how do I configure it as such>
[12:15] <maddux> ikonia, a next step?
[12:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Are you on a lap top?  Do you have wireless?
[12:15] <ikonia> maddux: sorry, missed you comment, can you boot it into safe fraphics mode
[12:15] <ikonia> paddy_melon: as I said, that's a long and big process, that's why people use routers with pre-configurd roms
[12:15] <maddux> how do we do that, i just know the recovery mode
[12:15] <netman1> viktor: try the log files (~/.vnc and /var/log)
[12:15] <erUSUL> paddy_melon: maybe it would be easier to just make an adhoc network with the help of network manager ?
[12:15] <paddy_melon> ikonia, I"m into reading long and big processes, where do i begin?
[12:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: A lot of hardware just works on Ubuntu, but not  all PC hardware,  however you can test the hardware on the Live CD in the Live Session before installing Ubuntu on to the computer.
[12:16] <aloha_> how do i auto mount windows partition in ubuntu 9.10
[12:16] <paddy_melon> erUSUL, only Computers can connect AFAIK, eg. Ipods won't
[12:16] <ikonia> paddy_melon: keep in mind, most routers are just linux boxes running in ram, that's why I keep saying the hardware isnot important. The routers are just linux boxes with a wirless card in
[12:16] <maddux> ikonia, is this an option different than recovery mode?
[12:16] <erUSUL> paddy_melon: fair enough
[12:16] <ikonia> maddux: yes, think of it as safe graphics mode
[12:16] <netman1> viktor_: also, try another vnc client on your windows machine.
[12:16] <maddux> but the problem continues
[12:16] <ikonia> maddux: what you could do is boot into safe mode and change the video driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be vesa to see if it at least boots "ok"
[12:16] <paddy_melon> ikonia, is it possible to run something like what routers run then, like DD-WRT in Qemu>
[12:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: md5sum is a way to check that the ISO you downloaded is good.  Good idea to also do the disk check on the CD to make sure your psyical CD is good, however if it's brand new then I expect it already is.   You burn the contents of the ISO to CD not the ISO itself.
[12:17] <ikonia> paddy_melon: you can't run there actual; roms, but you can build your own version from scratch, but as I said it's a long and complex process
[12:17] <maddux> ikonia, ah, i see.
[12:17] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > PJC80LA08
[12:17] <paddy_melon> ikonia, why hasn't anyone done it before?
[12:17] <viktor_> netman1: the client is solid have tried several diffrent and they all show same behaviour
[12:17] <ikonia> paddy_melon: because most people just buy a $30 wirless router
[12:18] <onaogh> i am subscribing to ubuntu-arabic mailing list, what does "receive digests" mean ?
[12:18] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: Because almost any change to a file will cause its MD5 hash to also change, the MD5 hash is commonly used to verify the integrity of files
[12:18] <ikonia> paddy_melon: it's a massive headache and not everyone will leave their PC on to act as a router for everyeone else
[12:18] <Spanglish_7776> to make sure the file is not damaged on download-md5sum
[12:18] <maddux> ikonia, maybe i misunderstand, i am not using it in x mode, but gnome mode, still change the file you gave me?
[12:18] <paddy_melon> ikonia, a $30 router can't be moved like a laptop can
[12:18] <ikonia> why buy a $1000 pc to act as a wirless router with hours of hassle, when you can buy a $40 router
[12:18] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: better to make sure your CD is good before trying to install Ubuntu from it
[12:18] <ikonia> paddy_melon: a router can be moved easier than a laptop, smaller, lighter, lower power,
[12:18] <ionut> does anyone knows why mythtv it gives me this error: MythTV is using all inputs,but there are no active recordings ?
[12:18] <guillaume_> Hey everyone, I've a problem with my desktop, about the theme, I've taken a screeshot to show the problem, who may help me please?
[12:19] <paddy_melon> ikonia, but, not battery operated, plus, a PC can do a lot at once
[12:19] <paddy_melon> eg for what I'm doing id still need a PC to serve the intranet
[12:19] <onaogh> guillaume_, what is your problem with themes ?
[12:19] <photon> ionut: there is #mythtv-users
[12:19] <netman1> viktor_: then your conclusion that the problem is on the server side is probably right. Are you running Xvnc on the server? Does it have any logging/debug capabilities?
[12:19] <ikonia> paddy_melon: I don't know what youre doing it, but that's why no-one bothers with it
[12:19] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: md5sum refers to a command or program.  I have Verbatim CD's with the vinyl tops - they should be good to go.  How do I extract the file contents from the ISO file, then?
[12:20] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: your on Windows now?
[12:20] <paddy_melon> ikonia, OK, perhaps I could make a project out of it :)
[12:20] <ikonia> if you want
[12:20] <netman1> PJC80LA08: mount filename.iso mountpoint -o loop
[12:20] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08 you need to burn the iso image (choose burn image
[12:20] <paddy_melon> ikonia: the idea is a movable hotspot to give messages, without the need for power
[12:21] <ikonia> well that's going to fail as you'd have to share a 3G connection which is barley enough for 1 laptop, let alone more than one
[12:22] <maddux> ikonia, i just get a line accross my screen that moves with the mouse
[12:22] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[12:22] <llutz> paddy_melon: look at distros like shorewall and change it to your needs. should be easier than recompiling all the stuff like dd-wrt/openwrt
[12:22] <ikonia> maddux: even with vesa ?
[12:22] <bluephase> how can i stop the file menu appearing every time i open a new terminal?
[12:23] <paddy_melon> what about dd-wrt X86
[12:23] <paddy_melon> idk
[12:23] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you install  a md5sum program in Windows, check your ISO in it, get a code,  compare the code to what Ubuntu provide, if the code is the same your ISO is good
[12:24] <ikonia> paddy_melon: a.) it's a pointless exerceise as multiple devices can't share mobile internet as it's too slow b.) it's a lot of effort
[12:24] <ikonia> paddy_melon: if you really want to do it though, get stuck in and good luck
[12:24] <PJC80LA08> thank you ubottu for the links - and the others for their input.  sebsebseb, I am in Windows currently.
[12:24] <viktor_> okay, the vnc part is working, afaik, the problem is in the firewall settings i have, im using firestarter. is this a good choice?
[12:24] <erUSUL> !info rosegarden | _raven_
[12:24] <paddy_melon> ikonia, it's not just for the end product, it's also for the fun
[12:24] <paddy_melon> and understanding of how it works
[12:24] <paddy_melon> that's why I use linux mostly
[12:24] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum
[12:24] <ikonia> paddy_melon: get going then
[12:24] <paddy_melon> thanks
[12:24] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: a lot of people don't bother with this check stuff, since they don't know that they should do it, also  since ISO's  tend to be good downloads, but not always.
[12:25] <netman1> bluephase: if you are using gnome-terminal use the command line option --hide-menubar
[12:25] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: not much good if  your say half way through installing Ubuntu and  then suddenly a disk error
[12:25] <Spanglish_7776> large files may change on download if there is a glitch on your internet connection though it may say it finished it got corrupt.
[12:26] <netman1> viktor_: Yes. If you think it's the problem then disable it and try again.
[12:26] <_raven_> erUSUL, small and without jack
[12:28] <maddux> ikonia, i only have 2 files with userful.xorg.conf.all ... and .... .one
[12:28] <ricky_ds> Hello all, in kern.log, syslog and messages I have errors like these: "Add.Sense: Logical unit not supported" and "Sense Key: illegal Request [current]". this happens on an ubuntu 9.10 that was upgraded from 9.04. Any hints about what causes these?
[12:28] <thecliff> Can anyone provide insight into the membership process?  I have only been contributing for a few weeks (and have no plans of stopping) but am curious how long it generally takes to apply for membership and be approved.  I am currently helping in the forums, the beginner's team, and the documentation team.
[12:28] <ikonia> maddux: what are the files
[12:29] <ikonia> !memebership | thecliff
[12:29] <maddux> ikonia, these files are the ones to adjust even you login to gui menus and not Xterm?
[12:29] <sebsebseb> ricky_ds: ok I don't know about that stuff, but  what I do know is that quite a lot of people got issues after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10, with clean install being the best way to fix the issues.
[12:29] <ikonia> maddux: a.) make sure you're up to date on the broken install from the terminal b.) you may need to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the broken install
[12:30] <ricky_ds> sebsebseb: that's what I was thinking as well. that's also the reason why I mentioned that upgrade
[12:30] <maddux> ikonia, userful.xorg.conf.all and userful.xorg.conf.one and userful.Mxorg.conf
[12:30] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  could you just walk me through the checking of my blank CD, md5sum (I already downloaded the program from Null River), and the burning of the ISO onto the CD - right now?
[12:30] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok has the program given you a code?
[12:30] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: you need to check the ISO before you burn
[12:31] <PJC80LA08> Let me run it.  I did download the ISO straight from the Ubuntu website ...
[12:31] <ikonia> maddux: they won't get read by the xserver
[12:31] <ikonia> maddux: xserver only reads /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: got that Ubuntu hash's link by  any chance?  I usueaully just tell them to go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10 (or whatever the version is)  and say the file is there with the codes,   or go on it myself and give them a direct link
[12:32] <paddy_melon> maddux, I'm no genius at this, but, I had a similar issue and, registered my gconf schema and it was all good
[12:32] <maddux> ikonia, i am a bit confused, you keep saying x or xserver, but when it was operating correctly, i would use the gnome login, not the one saying xterm.    i am not understanding
[12:32] <maddux> paddy, gconf schema?
[12:32] <ikonia> maddux: xserver is the thing that displays ANY graphics
[12:32] <maddux> ikonia, ahhh
[12:32] <reto`> ricky_ds<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:32] <ikonia> maddux: if your graphics are mangled, the Xserver is the thing that displays them
[12:33] <maddux> ikonia, so i have not file by that name you gave me, thats bad, right?
[12:33] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[12:33] <maddux> ikonia, does that mean i should copy or look for a copy from the other install?
[12:33] <Seveas> maddux, not necessarily
[12:33] <ikonia> maddux: no no, xorg is dynamic so doesn't normally need a file, sometimes though (especially for debugging) it needs a file to be forced into a specific mode
[12:33] <ikonia> maddux: see if your working install has a file
[12:34] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  K - here's the code: 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906
[12:34] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: compare with the hashes on this page with the version you downloaded: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[12:34] <maddux> ikonia, ok, which one
[12:34] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: there are two offical links  that provide the code your ISO needs to be,  see the link the message just now from Spanglish_7776   as well as my message before this one, if you want to know about the other webpage with the code
[12:35] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: the hashes have to be identical*
[12:35] <maddux> ok, i applogize my noobiness..i need to be a little spoon fed how to do this
[12:35] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: they need to be a match yes
[12:35] <sebsebseb> teh same code
[12:36] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: uh messaged you when I wanted to message PJC80LA08
[12:36] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[12:36] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: or actsaully I guess not, since I thought you asked a question :D
[12:36] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  Based on the website provided by Spanglish_7776, we have a match!
[12:36] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok good
[12:36] <maddux> paddy, btw, what is gconf?
[12:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: now burn the contents of the ISO to a blank CD
[12:37] <Spanglish_7776> that's a start
[12:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: probably best to use a brand new CD
[12:37] <Spanglish_7776> find the function burn image to cd on your cd burning software
[12:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: not say a CD RW that has been wiped
[12:37] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb: I didn't ask, I emphasized (*) I know what's up ;)
[12:38] <PJC80LA08> I have Verbatim CD-R's (higher quality) - here it goes ...
[12:38] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: no they are going to install Ubuntu, and I am making sure they do the whole proccess properly,   burning the CD and partitioning
[12:38] <Spanglish_7776> good luck PJC80LA08
[12:39] <robbit10> Hi people. I just updated Ubuntu, which broke GRUB and now it drops me into the GRUB command line whenever I boot Ubuntu. How do I fix this?
[12:39] <bluephase> I'm trying to copy some folders from my iPhone to Ubuntu 9.10 via a WebDav connection.  However if I copy a folder it only generates a link, rather than copying the files themselves?  Can anybody explain this please?
[12:39] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: installing Ubuntu will take about 20 minutes, but  giving the installer all the info might take half an hour or so, depending on you
[12:40] <maddux> ikonia, more info?
[12:40] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: anyway you  put before that you got 28GB  free space?  unpartitioend hard disk space?
[12:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: oh
[12:41] <sebsebseb> robbit10: clean install as well?
[12:41] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Nope when I had just installed it, it booted up fine.
[12:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: But the update broke it - I installed it via Wubi.
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: no don't do Wubi
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: I am about to tell  PJC80LA08  how to do a proper partitioned install :)
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: they are just burning CD at the moment
[12:42] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I know how to do that. but I am not allowed to install an OS on that laptop at the moment.
[12:42] <sebsebseb> robbit10: oh right well you sort of have, since you did Wubi
[12:42] <cemc> is there a way to use a proxy for apt-get
[12:43] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I meant no dual-booting
[12:43] <hever> how can I download linux kernel staging drivers using git ?
[12:43] <cemc> ...but only if it's available ?
[12:43] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Wubi is dual booting, expect instead of going onto a real partition, it puts itself inside Windows
[12:43] <maddux> ikonia,  those files i told you, i dont see them in the good install
[12:44] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you might even need to use the Windows CD, to get rid of  Wubi propelry
[12:44] <MrBliss> cemc: export http_proxy=your.proxy:port, then run apt-get
[12:44] <sebsebseb> robbit10: after un installing it
[12:44] <jiohdi> robbit10: on several wubi- installs, the boot loader failed after updates
[12:44] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Ohh...
[12:44] <robbit10> jiohdi: Including mine
[12:45] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Wubi can mess up on people and oddly, hence one reason why a lot of us don't recommend it
[12:45] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - let's not do the Ubuntu install tonight.  I'm tired - got a crapload to do tomorrow.  Your guidance has been awesome so far, though.  We can hook later on the actual install. Yes, 28 GB of unpartitioned free space.  I have an 80 GB hard drive.  So how do I burn the image of the ISO vs. the ISO itself - onto my CD in Windows?
[12:45] <SatanR1> Hello everyoe, is it possible to install ubuntu onto a 4gb usb ... and keep it as a full running OS .... Ihave been able to make it have a live-persistent mode with casper, but I want it to be full ?
[12:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: imburng will do the image
[12:46] <sebsebseb> imgburn
[12:46] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Is this a Windows DOS command or an Ubuntu command?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  possible but you will need to tell the insataller where to put Grub. and watch the disk space carfully
[12:46] <PJC80LA08> Linux, I mean ...
[12:46] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no
[12:47] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: imgburn is a good graphical program for Windows, for burning ISO's
[12:47] <sebsebseb> contents of ISO's
[12:47] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08:
[12:47] <SatanR1> Dr_Willis, so you sugest installing straight to the USB and place the grub on the USB too?
[12:47] <Spanglish_7776> http://www.imgburn.com/
[12:47] <FloodBot2> Spanglish_7776: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:47] <Spanglish_7776> oops;)
[12:47] <dawit> cruising
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  I would think a persistant save file install would be easier
[12:48] <dawit> I need a free download accelerator
[12:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: as for installation well,  Sunday or whatever I guess,  I will be around in here tommorow Sunday
[12:48] <SatanR1> Dr_Willis, Yes, but I'm not able install apps that way ... or even create my own user name ... it says as 'live session'
[12:48] <SatanR1> I bascially done this method : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  IF you do a 'persistant save' file setup - YES you can install apps and add users,
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> SatanR1:  use the ubuntu-usb-disk creator tool Not unetbootin, or follow some guides at pendrivelinux.com
[12:49] <MrBliss> SatanR1: that is strange, I use a isb drive persistently and added programs and users
[12:49] <true\false> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_<IP_ADDRESS>+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.deb Size mismatch
[12:49] <true\false> Why does it do that whenever I use Ubuntu Software Centre?
[12:50] <SatanR1> hmm Dr_Willis thanks ... I'll give it another go using that method then .... and the built in usb-creator in ubuntu! :)
[12:51] <sebsebseb> true\false: try using  the command?  sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird I think it is
[12:51] <sebsebseb> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[12:51] <guntbert> true\false: first try sudo apt-get update
[12:52] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[12:52] <maddux> my machine crashed, ugg
[12:52] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Once I have permission to install on the laptop, is it better to install Windows 7 first, or Ubuntu first? I want to have them both.
[12:52] <maddux> ikonia, still there?
[12:53] <sebsebseb> robbit10: Windows first
[12:53] <true\false> sebsebseb: Did already ta :) Works just grand
[12:53] <sebsebseb> robbit10: also depending on what you want to do etc,  well  Windows in a virtual machine possibily :)
[12:53] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah, hopefully we can get to my Ubuntu installation sometime this weekend yet.  We have a visitor coming from Wisconsin on Sunday, and Sunday is Valentine's Day (yes, I'm married).  So Saturday (today) later on would be better.  I'm in ImgBurn right now - do I select the option to "Create image file from files/folders" ?
[12:53] <jiohdi> robbit10: windows dont play nice, but ubuntu will allow dual booting with ease
[12:53] <true\false> Now the next issue I have is that Amarok has stopped working, but whatever.. VLC is just grand.
[12:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: yeah I might be here later on
[12:53] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: and i'll be around in here next week as well
[12:53] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Naw Windows in a VM is too weak for what I want to do with it.
[12:54] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Okay, i'll install Windows first then.
[12:54] <true\false> guntbert: sudo apt-get update doesn't work actually.. W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ED8B789323DC003
[12:54] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: anyway good after noon for me, and good night for you, I guess :D
[12:54] <kampret> ukuk
[12:55] <sebsebseb> robbit10: what do you want to use it for?
[12:55] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: In ImgBurn, do I select the option to "Create an image file from files/folders?"
[12:55] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Programs such as Photoshop and Adobe Flash, and freeware games and MMORPG's.
[12:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: uhmm  something like that I guess
[12:56] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08
[12:56] <sebsebseb> robbit10: the Flash player, or the maker?
[12:56] <guntbert> true\false: temporarily disable that ppa (you can easily do it via system/administration/software sources/other software
[12:56] <robbit10> sebsebseb: The maker. Oh, and recording video's and sound.
[12:56] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you make Flash :(
[12:56] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I made a few flashes once, haven't done it in a while though.
[12:56] <sebsebseb> robbit10: video editing well there's kino and there's uhmm whatever it's called, which will be in the next Ubuntu by default
[12:56] <petsounds> true\false, do you have xine installed? amarok needs xine.
[12:56] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: you want to choose write image file to disc
[12:57] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: thought you would know :)
[12:57] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[12:57] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776: I don't have that app in front of me right now etc
[12:57] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Naw I prefer the more advanced programs which are available on Windows
[12:57] <sebsebseb> robbit10: there's  Blender for 3D moddeling, is that advanced enough for you? :D
[12:57] <true\false> petsounds: It did work yesterday, now it just doesn't.. Which is oddd
[12:57] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  The ISO file is still just the ISO file.  It's not an image file in it's inherent form, is it?
[12:57] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I also have a device (Line 6 Pod Studio UX1) that is only windows/mac-compatible.
[12:57] <true\false> guntbert: Works ta :)
[12:57] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Sorry, but i just need windows :P
[12:57] <sebsebseb> robbit10: anyway Photoshop and such you can run in Wine and quite well I think after some setting up maybe.
[12:58] <sebsebseb> robbit10: you can also virtual machine Windows for those apps
[12:58] <Spanglish_7776> PCJ80LA08: it's an image of a CD
[12:58] <System-7> For good video editing try Open Movie Editor (well good in slightly above Win Movie Maker)
[12:58] <Spanglish_7776> not like a graphics image
[12:58] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ,but if you want to dual boot for those apps, well ok then
[12:58] <maddux> ikonia, downgrading xorg and then return it back...maybe can fix...i am trying
[12:58] <guntbert> true\false: you're welcome :-)
[12:58] <System-7> The OLD Movie Maker, not Live
[12:58] <kampret> id
[12:58] <kampret> dgg
[12:58] <Spanglish_7776> like a copy PJC80LA08
[12:58] <true\false> Bah if this was Windows I'd know it was borked and reinstall already.
[12:58] <robbit10> sebsebseb: I need to dual boot for them. My biggest hobby is playing guitar, and many of the apps for that are available only on Windows, and my Direct Input box only works on windows.
[12:59] <timmarshall> i love linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok, but most Windows apps work in a Windows virtual machine,  altough 3D games will be a bit of an issue stil really
[12:59] <System-7> thats great!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776: So it is an image file.  K - writing image file to disc, here goes ...
[12:59] <Spanglish_7776> :)
[12:59] <timmarshall> isnt it just!!!!!!!!!
[12:59] <guntbert> !ot
[12:59] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Yes, but my line 6 device, then?
[13:00] <coolguy4> how come ubuntu doesn't have /etc/inittab ?
[13:00] <sebsebseb> robbit10: I don't know about that, but yes it's probably better for you to have a  dual boot
[13:00] <robbit10> sebsebseb: Okay. So first Windows 7, then Ubuntu. Got it. Thanks :)
[13:01] <guntbert> !inittab | coolguy4
[13:01] <sebsebseb> robbit10: yep otherwise Windows will overwrite the part of Grub that's in the MBR
[13:01] <ehnde> anyone have any idea why pidgin closes unexpectedly when it's not in focus?
[13:01] <sebsebseb> robbit10: master boot record,  and then  that's a bit of an issue to get it on there again
[13:01] <ehnde> i didn't know if this was a bug, or some quirk that i'm causing
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> ehnde:  run from terminal, look for error messages
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> ehnde:  you sure its not just minimizing to the systemtray?
[13:02] <sebsebseb> robbit10: ok np
[13:02] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  UHHH.  So this file is 723,488,768 bytes in size.  My CD-R's capacity is 700 MB.  I have one more on hand that is 700 MB capacity.   :D
[13:06] <timmarshall> if anyones got msn add me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:06] <sebsebseb> timmarshall: Why?
[13:07] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Linux is the up-and-coming OS that will eventually KICK ALL ASS - that's what it is !!!
[13:07] <MrBliss> sebsebseb: I have heard of GNU/linux :-P
[13:07] <sebsebseb> MrBliss: yeah GNU/Linux :)
[13:07] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: it already has the other markets that matter, the server, the super computers etc.   Linux distros are getting there on the desktop.  anyway off topic :D
[13:08] <thecliff> !offtopic
[13:08] <guntbert> sebsebseb: don't rub it in - it hurts :-))
[13:08] <MrBliss> Don't forget the mobile devices
[13:08] <thecliff> :D
[13:09] <sebsebseb> guntbert: eh nevermind a bit of fun I guess :)  plus I know your a good helper here :)
[13:09] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: RIGHT.  Like I just said - Linux is ... KICKING ... M-A-J-O-R ... AAAAASSSSS.
[13:09] <sebsebseb> MrBliss: yeah I was going to put something about mobile in there
[13:09] <guntbert> sebsebseb: :-) I *can* take the heat  - so I stay in the kitchen :-)
[13:10] <conb123> Hiya I'm trying to compile a program from source and it cannot find a file called libserver.la, does anyone know which package i can find this file in?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !find libserver.la
[13:12] <guntbert> !compile | conb123
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> conb123:  looks like you may need to compile the source for the libserver first
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> !find libserver
[13:13] <conb123> Dr_Willis: Yeah there is a folder called libserver, but I'm pretty sure it compiles as part of the script
[13:13] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: Quick question for you then, as I am almost "outtie".  How will you instruct me on the Ubuntu installation off the LiveCD - if I won't be able to be online during the install?   Are going to like - have a half-hour training session beforehand - during which I document all steps in detail?
[13:13] <guntbert> !info build-essential | conb123 did you install that?
[13:14] <conb123> guntbert: Yes I did
[13:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: heh heh
[13:14] <guntbert> conb123: what are you trying to compile?
[13:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: Only one computer?
[13:14] <conb123> guntbert: Globalmenu
[13:14] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: anyway assuming your Internet works,  you can be on IRC when running installer :)
[13:15] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: on the Live CD
[13:15] <Spanglish_7776> what did I miss.. lol,
[13:15] <Spanglish_7776> it got "quiet" all of a sudden, had to reconnect.
[13:16] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Yeah - I was just thinking that.  I do have another one that is WAY slower (a really old Dell Latitude CS laptop).  I could chat on there I guess too ...  How do you get the IRC to run online in tandem with the installer?
[13:16] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you will run installer put in the details it wants, and create three partitions for Ubuntu, and how I say to make them :)   I could actsauly say now
[13:16] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[13:16] <guntbert> conb123: that doesn't tell me a lot - where did you get the file?
[13:16] <conb123> guntbert: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[13:16] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: ok right you never been on an Ubuntu Live CD before?
[13:16] <Duxon> Hello! I need help: How can I prevent Nautilus from opening recently plugged in USB-Sticks?
[13:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: by default it boots up into a live session which is Ubuntu running from the CD
[13:17] <conb123> guntbert:0.7.9
[13:17] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: where people can test their hardware, and do  things whilst  using Ubuntu,  including IRC and  running the installer
[13:18] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  No, I have never been on an Ubuntu LiveCD before.  And the CD just finished, BTW.  Aw hell - do you want to just do the install together now?
[13:18] <coolguy4> where in ubuntu can I configure the ALT-CTRL-Fn sequences? I want to be able to switch to a pseudo-terminal which runs xorg from a chroot
[13:18] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: if you want
[13:18] <FANDER1> guys I want to buy a new laptop and the one I found has this: Mobile Intel GMA 4500M. Is it OK with ubuntu? Cuz I heard it has problems with ubuntu. So what do you think?
[13:19] <FANDER1> This is the laptop:http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/notebooks/lenovo+g550+led+backlight+dual+core
[13:19] <sebsebseb> FANDER1: hrm
[13:19] <sebsebseb> FANDER1: buying supported hardware right ok, I got a link that should be of some use
[13:19] <guntbert> conb123: did you read and follow the instructions in INSTALL and README?
[13:19] <conb123> guntbert: Yeah
[13:21] <MILLO> HOLA
[13:21] <Spanglish_7776> !es | MILLO
[13:21] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - let's do it!  So I just run the Ubuntu Install CD now from inside Windows?  When/how do I get back on Pidgin to chat with you - once in the LiveCD app?
[13:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: no
[13:22] <MILLO> cuantos años tienes
[13:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you bot your computer from it
[13:22] <sebsebseb> boot
[13:22] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08: you might have to go into your BIOS and telll it to boot from CD
[13:22] <geezer_code> hi, all  :)
[13:22] <sebsebseb> !es | MILLO
[13:22] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08 do yo have a dell?
[13:22] <MILLO> yo soy español
[13:22] <Rajm> hi
[13:22] <PJC80LA08> No - I have an IBM Thinkpad T43
[13:22] <FANDER1> so does anyone know anything about the compatibility between Ubuntu and  Mobile Intel GMA 4500M?
[13:22] <guntbert> conb123: ./configure runs without errors?
[13:22] <Spanglish_7776> press f12 to get boot menu choose cd/dvdrom
[13:23] <Rajm> i have windows xp and ubuntu install, is it possible for a dual boot
[13:23] <Spanglish_7776> hmm
[13:23] <guntbert> !es | MILLO
[13:23] <sebsebseb> FANDER1   this link might be of some use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/ChoosingHardwareThatWorks
[13:23] <geezer_code> can anybody help me with Ubuntu?
[13:23] <conb123> guntbert: Yes it did, could it possibly be that perl is to earlier a version the configure says this "checking for perl >= 5.8.1... 5.10.0"
[13:23] <dad> maybe
[13:23] <sebsebseb> !ask | geezer_code
[13:24] <geezer_code> thnx
[13:24] <Guest10872> I need to change nameserver in diskless set up
[13:24] <Rajm> i have windows xp and ubuntu installed, is it possible for a dual boot
[13:24] <Guest10872> anyone
[13:24] <PJC80LA08> OK - then once I hit f12 to get into BIOS and choose cd/dvdrom - at what point am I am able to get back online and on Pidgin to chat and continue being guided through the install?
[13:24] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08 press the blue button at boot- when the post screen comes up (post is the screen before you see the winxp boot splash screen
[13:25] <guntbert> conb123: my perl version matches but I get a failure with gtk2
[13:25] <Guest10872> PJC yes install windows rthen ubuntu
[13:25] <Guest10872> PJR go read a guid on how to dual boot ther are thousands
[13:25] <geirha> conb123: pastebin the configure output after doing ''make distclean''.   ./configure 2>&1 | pastebinit   (assuming the pastebinit package is installed)
[13:26] <guntbert> conb123: sorry - I gotta go - lunch is ready :-)
[13:26] <Guest10872> I need to change nameserver in diskless set up
[13:26] <sebsebseb> Rajm yes
[13:26] <geezer_code> I use dig domain.local and it writes the ip I need, but PING gives  ping: unknown host projects.local
[13:26] <Guest10872> when I edit resolv.conf its rewritten on reboot
[13:26] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  What is your call?  So I press the Access IBM blue button - and that will bring me into BIOS?
[13:26] <guntbert> conb123: but geirha will take your case - it seems :)
[13:27] <Spanglish_7776> Guest, you may have dhcp getting your settings.
[13:27] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  Rajm
[13:27] <coolguy4> how can I configure the "gui terminals"? eg. CTRL-ALT-F[7-12]
[13:27] <Spanglish_7776> no it will give you choices from where to boot from PJC80LA08
[13:27] <sebsebseb> Rajm  also I am on the verge of helping PJC80LAO8 set up a dual boot, the way I would do it
[13:27] <Guest10872> span it prob is its a diskless mythbuntu setup
[13:28] <Guest10872> and i need to set server as <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:28] <llutz> Guest10872: change your dhcp-settings, clientside supersede dns-nameserver
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: While either of the following messages is displayed at the lower left area of the screen, press the F12 key to display the boot menu:
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> To interrupt normal start-up, press the blue Access IBM™ Lenovo™ button or the enter key.
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> Press F12 to choose temporary boot devicePress F1 for BIOS Setup Utility
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> Press F11 to invoke the Product Recovery program
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> Press F12 to choose temporary boot device
[13:28] <FloodBot2> Spanglish_7776: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  bt my router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:28] <Spanglish_7776> oops
[13:28] <maggs> damn, in trying to remember how to connect to a new server i forgot my question....
[13:29] <Spanglish_7776> got anxious. ;)
[13:29] <V4mpire> this isn't really the right question for here but someone might know... anyone good with mybb ?
[13:29] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  do you have any exp with diskless
[13:29] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776 :)
[13:29] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm. somehwhat, what's you're question?
[13:29] <conb123> geirha: http://pastebin.com/f660136a8 , there you go
[13:30] <theadmin> Is there an environment variable to reffer to current directory?
[13:30] <llutz> theadmin: PWD
[13:30] <sebsebseb> it's not the same button to access the BIOS on all computers  PJC80LA08
[13:30] <Rajm> thanks ubottu
[13:30] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, what's you're question?
[13:30] <theadmin> llutz: o_O Completely not self-explanatory :/ Thanks
 I use dig domain.local and it writes the ip I need, but PING gives  ping: unknown host. How can i fix it?
[13:31] <_raven_> i need a simple MIDI RECORDER which runs without jack) - any ideas?
[13:31] <llutz> theadmin: print-working-directory
[13:31] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  clients cannot connect to internet as resolv.conf provides nameserver as <IP_ADDRESS> and I need <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:31] <theadmin> llutz: But variables don't print anything %) Besides, I don't have a printer
[13:31] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 where are the clients getting the IP settings? DHCP?
[13:31] <llutz> theadmin: its from command "pwd"
[13:32] <Guest10872> yes
[13:32] <theadmin> llutz: I am used to think of "pwd" as of acronym for "password"
[13:32] <llutz> theadmin: fail :)
[13:32] <Spanglish_7776> you need to configure the dhcp server to specify <IP_ADDRESS> as their dns
[13:32] <Simon1245> Hello everyone, Does anyone know a good ebook for Ubuntu?
[13:32] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: you need to configure the dhcp server to specify <IP_ADDRESS> as their dns
[13:33] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776  thanks for the button stuff even though you flooded the channel with it,  if PJC80LA08 got into their BIOS as a result of it
[13:33] <Guest10872> 	#
[13:33] <Guest10872> # Default LTSP dhcpd.conf config file.
[13:33] <Guest10872> #
[13:33] <Guest10872> authoritative;
[13:33] <Guest10872> subnet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> {
[13:33] <FloodBot2> Guest10872: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <Guest10872>     range <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>;
[13:33] <geezer_code> жесть блин, и никто значит не знает. придется на форум итти.
[13:33] <aggalitsas85> hi all , I want to connect my wireless in Ubuntu 9.10 could someone send me private mesage to help me ?? thanks
[13:33] <conb123> geirha: Found anything?
[13:33] <PJC80LA08> Access IBM Blue Button.  F12 for temporary boot device.  So now changes in BIOS are needed?
[13:33] <Spanglish_7776> np, I will use paste.ubuntu.com next time ;)
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> !wireless | aggalitsas85
[13:34] <PJC80LA08> So NO changes in BIOS needed, I mean?
[13:34] <Simon1245> Does anyone know a good ebook for Ubuntu which covers all the basic stuffs?
[13:34] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, so i change dns server to <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:34] <jrib> Simon1245: help.ubuntu.com
[13:34] <theadmin> geezer_code: Не ругайся, и по английски пожалуйста || Don't swear and use english please
[13:34] <maggs> i remembered my question!
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Simon1245:  there are some in the repo
[13:34] <Spanglish_7776> yes Guest10872
[13:34] <Simon1245> jrib, Thanks Will check it
[13:34] <Simon1245> Dr_Willis, What is Repo?
[13:34] <Spanglish_7776> restart the dhcp server when you're done configuring it
[13:34] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: restart the dhcp server when you're done configuring it
[13:34] <theadmin> Simon1245: short for Repository
[13:34] <maggs> is there an easy way of seeing if my laptop will run the 64 bit Ubunutu?
[13:35] <theadmin> maggs: There are no 64-bit laptops, if I'm not mistaken
[13:35] <geirha> conb123: Configure output looks good. I downloaded the source meanwhile, and getting the same problem. My best guess is that it's supposed to use libserver/libglobalmenu-server.la ... someone probably changed the name, but forgot to do the same in all files.
[13:35] <Simon1245> theadmin, Sorry, My english isn't good can you explain a bit more about it?
[13:35] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  ok i will try
[13:35] <jessejames> Try booting from the live CD
[13:35] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: no changes to the BIOS, correct
[13:35] <llutz> theadmin: fail again
[13:35] <tp43> maggs, does it a sticker on it that says 64 bit cpu?
[13:35] <theadmin> Simon1245: A thingy you add to software sources... llutz: Huh?
[13:35] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: if you still have issues, let me know.
[13:36] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 only need to change the BIOS boot order, if CD won't boot, and the CD is a good one
[13:36] <maggs> only sticker i see is "intel centrino duo" tp43
[13:36] <llutz> theadmin: most actual cpus are 64bit, even in laptops
[13:36] <Simon1245> theadmin, I will check the help.ubuntu.com :D Because it's more easier I get back to you if I don't find something i there
[13:36] <theadmin> maggs: Okay, sorry, anyways, what system are you on now?
[13:36] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb he can choose to boot from cd, without having to change the boot order.
[13:36] <jessejames> maggs: I'm running 64-bit on a laptop. Try booting from the 64-bit CD
[13:36] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  K - so what do I do once its booting from the Ubuntu disk.  When will I be able to get back on here to chat and be guided by sebsebseb for all the partition stuff - at what point in the process and how?
[13:36] <Spanglish_7776> if he gets to the boot menu
[13:37] <tp43> install lshw, and then run it and see what it says, if it says 64 bit, there you go
[13:37] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  Is it possible to tave my routers dns server running and dhcp on my linux server
[13:37] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 can you go on IRC on another computer as well or?
[13:37] <Guest10872> tave *ave
[13:37] <Spanglish_7776> GUEST10872 yes
[13:38] <conb123> geirha: I don't think I have that file
[13:38] <tp43> maggs, cat /pro/cpu
[13:38] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, you can, as long as the dhcp tells the clients what the dns server is. you're good.
[13:38] <Simon1245> jrib, I think this will do in the beginning. Anyways, You know a ebook I could continue with once I readed this so I can learn more?
[13:38] <tp43> maggs, cat /pro/cpuinfo
[13:38] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb: Yes.  RIGHT.  Let me take a piss (all this discussion is so intense !!!) and get my old laptop top rolling online ... and then I can engage in the process.  A few moments, guys ... be right back ...
[13:38] <theadmin> maggs: On windows, you should run "systeminfo" in command line and see the output.
[13:38] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  I might actsaully make a video showing how to partition my way one day :)  and upload to Youtube or something.
[13:38] <conb123> geirha: Heres my ls for libserver, http://pastebin.com/f2c025dc5
[13:38] <maggs> lshw http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m18c1d043
[13:39] <jrib> Simon1245: theer's not much more you need unless you want to start getting into more advanced stuff
[13:39] <maggs> the width suggests i can use the 64 bit version?
[13:39] <Simon1245> jrib, Does help.ubuntu.com cover the terminal part aswell?
[13:39] <tp43> I have dual core, but cat /proc/cpuinfo only shows one
[13:39] <jrib> !cli | Simon1245
[13:40] <Simon1245> man intro
[13:40] <Guest10872> just rebooted client after changing dns server to <IP_ADDRESS> in dhcp.conf on server and its still setting nameserver to 1.10
[13:40] <Simon1245> Thank you
[13:40] <theadmin> Simon1245: LOL. Not here. In the terminal.
[13:40] <Simon1245> :D
[13:40] <Simon1245> Sorry lol i'm new to this :D
[13:40] <tp43> jrib, whats so powerful about it?
[13:40] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  or boot up  the Live CD, after doing disk check that should pass :)   the one on CD yeah.   then   get the live session booted, and as long as Internet works,   appliations > assesosries > terminal   sudo apt-get install xchat  (  I use Konversation, but for Live CD might as well just do xchat)
[13:40] <geirha> conb123: for file in libserver/tests/Makefile.*; do ed -s "$file" <<< $',s/libserver\.la/libglobalmenu-server.la/g\nw'; done
[13:40] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 did you restart the dhcp?
[13:41] <Guest10872> haha no
[13:41] <Spanglish_7776> sebsebseb: I think someone beat you to the punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8a-smrPlvE
[13:41] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: restart ;)
[13:41] <Simon1245> tp43, So powerfull about what?
[13:41] <llutz> Simon1245: www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[13:41] <geirha> conb123: That should replace all occurances of libserver.la to libglobalmenu-server.la. Then do ''make distclean; ./configure && make''
[13:41] <tp43> Simon1245, cli
[13:41] <Simon1245> llutz, Thank you, I will chcek it
[13:41] <jrib> tp43: bash is a scripting language, you can have your computer do a lot by typing very little
[13:41] <maggs> tp43: 13:42:26 < maggs> lshw http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m18c1d043
[13:41] <theadmin> make distclean? What does this do? o_O
[13:41] <sebsebseb> spanglish_7776  I think if I remember correctly that there probably is already something out there for that.
[13:41] <Guest10872> terminal line to restart dhcp?
[13:42] <Guest10872> sorry Im noob
[13:42] <Simon1245> tp43, There you got your answer :D I didn't know the answer aswell :D
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> Guest what version of linux?
[13:42] <Guest10872> karmic
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> or "Flavor"
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> ok
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[13:42] <geirha> theadmin: Usually turns the source tree back to the way it was just after you extracted it
[13:42] <sebsebseb> Spanglish_7776  right I'll check out that video see if it's any good or not,  guideing people through partitioning really does take time
[13:42] <andrea_> !list
[13:43] <theadmin> geirha: Wow. Thanks, will know, should be useful later
[13:43] <MrBliss> Guest10872: sudo /sbin/dhclient
[13:43] <tp43> maggs, yep, you got 64 bits
[13:43] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb/Spanglish_7776:  I am going to disconnect now from this computer - because I can only run one computer online (my AT&T modem only has one ethernet port).  I be back in a few minutes ...
[13:43] <JStoone> Guest10872, as Pranglish_7776 says try   "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart"
[13:43] <conb123> geirha: Oh man it worked, your a genius thank you
[13:43] <Guest10872> sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
[13:44] <Guest10872> found it!
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> eh..
[13:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 hold on
[13:44] <Simon1245> Is there any shortkeys to come to the desktop.. Like in Windows there is ctrl + D and it takes you to the desktop.. Is there anything similar in Linux aswell?
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> that will work ;)
[13:44] <VCoolio> Spanglish_7776: on karmic, shouldn't that be "sudo service blah restart" (considering upstart)
[13:44] <maggs> tp43: cheers, i'll give the 64 bit version a play then, see if i can spot any difference in performance or anything else
[13:44] <theadmin> Wonder why /etc/init.d is not in $PATH
[13:44] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  your command karmic no likey!
[13:44] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 that video might be good enough for you to do this on your own,  I was about to check it out
[13:44] <geirha> conb123: Great :)
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 1 sec
[13:44] <Guest10872> I think this will fix client rebooting now
[13:45] <llutz> theadmin: nobody wants to have init-scripts inside his path, having sometimes  same name as some apps
[13:45] <PJC80LA08> Oh OK - this video mimicks your process - for creating three partitions - or whatever?
[13:45] <geirha> theadmin: Because those scripts aren't meant to be run very often, and only by root
[13:45] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me
[13:45] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me
[13:45] <theadmin> llutz: Oh. My, I see... Didn't know that they sometimes have same names as apps.
[13:45] <tp43> maggs, I heard there are other things, but I thought 64 bit allows you to use more than 4gig ram, how much ram do you have?
[13:46] <theadmin> avitaozim: Don't flood the channel. Also, what?
[13:46] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, haha well done problem fixed!
[13:46] <Spanglish_7776> ;) no problem
[13:46] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  now next problem
[13:46] <Spanglish_7776> ?
[13:46] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  time on clients is 1 hour wrong
[13:46] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  The only thing about it, though - is this other old laptop is very choppy/slow with video ...
[13:47] <Guest10872> Im in australia and daylight saving is on but clients cant se it!
[13:47] <Spanglish_7776> GUest10872 are you familiar with NTP?
[13:47] <maggs> tp43: 1gig ^^ it's a fairly old laptop :D i'm pretty bored though, and a chance to do a reinstall appeals right now
[13:47] <Guest10872> ntp is installed on server
[13:47] <Guest10872> and on clients image
[13:47] <Tronx_> hello,
[13:48] <bruce> hi!
[13:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 no
[13:48] <Spanglish_7776> you have the ntp server running on the server Guest10872?
[13:48] <Spanglish_7776> or just the client?
[13:48] <tp43> maggs, I don't think you need to re-install, you can just install the kernel
[13:48] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me
[13:48] <Guest10872> Ive changed ntp.conf  but client dont seem to get time from server which is what I want them to do
[13:48] <frodoleggins> hi guys, there's a ppa for OOo 3.2???
[13:48] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 only making one partition  in video which the guided install would do anyway etc.
[13:48] <sebsebseb> get the CD booted and i''ll guide you through it
[13:48] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  I have on client image and server
[13:49] <Tronx_> i need to write a script to add # to the last 4 lines in a file, and one that removes them
[13:49] <Tronx_> any suggestions?
[13:49] <JStoone> Hi everyone! I'm having some problem getting my apache online? it is only working on the local network? any suggestions?
[13:49] <tp43> maggs, do apt-cache search linux image, and then pic the one you like, and do apt-get install linux-image-whatever-64-bit
[13:49] <llutz> Tronx_: perl, sed, awk
[13:49] <Emiliano> hi there
[13:49] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872. 1 sec
[13:49] <theadmin> JStoone: Strange. Do you have a public IP? Are you behind a proxy?
[13:49] <maggs> will have a look, thanks tp43, will do a back up first though, just in case
[13:50] <JStoone> maggs, remember to do the   "sudo apt-get install" if you are not logged in as root
[13:50] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  So you are saying that if I brought up the webpage with the guided install on my other old laptop - and did it by only making one partition - I will be fine?
[13:50] <hiems> Hello... I'm trying to put an command that asks for user input (a password) in an upstart script, Ubuntu Karmic... it looks like the scripts goes on but the password request is unattended... Ideas?
[13:50] <Davide__45> Cyao, un saluto a tutto il canale!
[13:50] <Emiliano> anyone from argentina?
[13:50] <llutz> JStoone: portforwarding enabled in your router?
[13:50] <tp43> maggs, I had a look, it looks like it the same kernel, 64 bit and 32 bit anyway, so you already got it
[13:50] <Davide__45> !list
[13:51] <frodoleggins> hey, please, tell me that someone is packaging OO3.2
[13:51] <JStoone> theadmin, yes I've got a public IP (witch I find at WhatIsMyIP).  I don't think that I am behind a proxy..
[13:51] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you don't want a seperate /home just use the guided install
[13:51] <Tronx_> llutz : how about a more comprehensive suggestion :)
[13:51] <helen> can anyone help me with lm-sensors?
[13:51] <Tronx_> as in , how not just using what llutz
[13:51] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me,,, java ,delphi,php
[13:51] <avitaozim> it has programmer online, mgs me,,, java ,delphi,php
[13:52] <JStoone> llutz, yes I am but all the ports are forwarded correcly. I called my ISP and asked if they were forwarded and they said yes.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> avitaozim:  there are channels for each of those languagesa
[13:52] <jrib> avitaozim: stop doing that.  If you have a support question, just ask it in the channel
[13:52] <helen> acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:       +40.0°C  (crit = +75.0°C)    <-- in windows I have 4 sensors excluding the hdd's
[13:52] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  Just quickly clarify again - what is the convenience in having the /home?
[13:52] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: did you configure the ntpd server ?
[13:52] <Simon1245> llutz, Ubuntupocketguide is for 8.04 LTS and 8.10
[13:52] <llutz> Tronx_: pseudo-code: tail -4 yourfile| sed 's/^/#/' >newfile
[13:52] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, I have tried
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> PJC80LA08:  If you reinstall youi can keep your old /home
[13:52] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: this may help. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/network-time-protocol-ntp-server-and-clients-setup-in-ubuntu.html
[13:52] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 if you want one it will be set up in manual install,, which i'll tell you how to do,  it's not that difficult
[13:52] <Simon1245> llutz, Does it matter?
[13:53] <sunil> Dr_Willis: I am new to irc
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> PJC80LA08:  i keep my /home on its own Hard drive
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  So?
[13:53] <llutz> Simon1245: you want to read about some basics? it shouldn't matter then
[13:53] <JStoone> theadmin, I've also got a problem getting my vsftpd online, that's also local only, and both port 20 and 21 is forwarded correctly.
[13:53] <Simon1245> llutz, Ok thank you
[13:53] <theadmin> JStoone: Strange.
[13:53] <Simon1245> llutz, What do you recommend? Reading the book or help.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <JStoone> theadmin: very.. I'm thinking that it is my .conf file or something?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Simon1245:  i say yes to both :) but online is cheaper.. there are books online you can find also
[13:54] <Spanglish_7776> theadmin, do you have ssh server installed on the server you have the vsftpd installed?
[13:54] <llutz> Simon1245: read whatever you mean it will help you. theres information all over the net, you just have to filter it :)
[13:54] <avitaozim> where it is the narrow channel
[13:54] <sunil> How  can i share my folders on Local Area Network in Ubuntu?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !samba | sunil
[13:54] <MrBliss> Jstoone: try telnet yourip:port
[13:54] <Simon1245> Dr_Willis, llutz, You both are right
[13:54] <theadmin> What the? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Firefox-strange.png (Error message states: "Content type failure: Page which you are trying to view cannot be shown due to a wrong compression method. Please contact the website owners and let them know of this problem")... On Opera it works fine... !?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  in theory, right click,, use the shareing option. but i never do it that way
[13:55] <sunil> How do i Install samba?
[13:55] <Simon1245> Dr_Willis, llutz I will see what I find intresting the book or the help.ubuntu
[13:55] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  1.  check the disk you burned is good using the disk checker on the CD once the computer has booted from the CD.  2.   boot up the live session on the CD  try Ubuntu without touching hard disk option  3.  open Firefox try Internet should work.  Any  hardware issues tell me here on IRC.   4.  Install Xchat onto the Live CD already told you how to do that, or just do IRC on another computer.  5.  Install Ubuntu
[13:55] <Spanglish_7776> theadmin: I've had an issue in the past and i figured out that when ssh server is on the machine and i installed vsftpd it used sftp (port22)
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> sunil:  fire up package manager.. look for and install 'samba'
[13:55] <avitaozim> vlw
[13:55] <sunil> ok
[13:55] <Tronx_> llutz : should i use tmp files now with this ? because i wanted to edit the same file not create on with the last 4 lines commented.
[13:56] <theadmin> Spanglish_7776: I think you're mistaken, I'm not the person with this problem, JStoone is
[13:56] <Spanglish_7776> !paste | Guest10872
[13:56] <JStoone> MrBliss, is it then my non local port?
[13:56] <Spanglish_7776> oh sorry
[13:56] <twinforce> sunil: you could also do "sudo apt-get install samba"
[13:56] <llutz> Tronx_: read "man sed", you can use it without tmpfiles
[13:56] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 paste your config there for ntp and i'll take a look.
[13:56] <Tronx_> ok
[13:56] <twinforce> sunil: and "sudo apt-get install samba4"
[13:56] <MrBliss> JStoone: the prot apache should be listening on
[13:57] <twinforce> I am not sure which one is the one that you want, but you could try both
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !info samba
[13:57] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:57] <sunil> twinforce: thanks
[13:57] <sunil> Dr_Willis: thanks
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc | sunil
[13:57] <JStoone> MrBliss, what is the default apache listening port?
[13:58] <Guest10872> sorry deeep in ntp.conf... I jhad reconfig hours ago but didnt restart
[13:58] <Guest10872> rebooting client
[13:58] <MrBliss> Jstoone: 80, the command would be telnet someip 80
[13:58] <Guest10872> it might be ok
[13:58] <amjad> hello is anyone having problem connecting with aim using pidgin on jaunty (9.04), i get connection time out error
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> always good idea to restart Guest10872
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> wunil: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> sunil: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/05/19/how-to-share-files-and-folders-in-ubuntu/
[13:58] <Spanglish_7776> might help
[13:58] <twinforce> JStoone: also try port 8080, if port 80 doesn't work
[13:58] <Guest10872> HMM I know.............wonders why things dont work......
[13:58] <coolguy4> hi, I want to run x in a chroot
[13:59] <Guest10872> no time still wrong
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  dare we ask why?
[13:59] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 you also configured the client right?
[13:59] <Spanglish_7776> to check the server?
[13:59] <coolguy4> dr_willis: because I am installing debian in a chroot and I want to configure a few things
[13:59] <Guest10872> link to paste bin Ill put servers first
[13:59] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[13:59] <Guest10872> yes i did
[14:00] <Spanglish_7776> !paste Guest10872
[14:00] <Spanglish_7776> !paste | Guest10872
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  hmm im not sure thats the same thing.. why are you doing debisn in a chroot instead of simthing easier like using virtualbox?
[14:00] <Spanglish_7776> post the link when you've pasted yoru config
[14:01] <Guest10872> I need alink to pastebin sorry nevre used
[14:01] <JStoone> twinforce, how do I change the listeining port then?
[14:01] <milad> Hi every one ,, i have a problem with screen resolution ,, the maximum resolution is 800*600 and i have a wide screen with res of 1400 * 900 ,, i have ubuntu and nvidia card
[14:01] <Spanglish_7776> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> milad:  for some of my nvidia ystems. i have to install the nvidia drivers befor the wide screen ress are detected properly
[14:01] <coolguy4> dr_willis: If I use virtualbox then the drivers will be setup for the virtualised hardware instead of the native hardware
[14:01] <twinforce> JStoone: it should be an option in the Apache configuration file, give me a second I'll pull up the default location for the config file
[14:01] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone: netstat -a in command line and see if yousee something like :www listed
[14:02] <Guest10872> http://paste.ubuntu.com/375496/
[14:02] <Spanglish_7776> will show you if the port is open
[14:02] <Tek-5-8-6> When seting up partitions on Ubuntu 9.10, what is the best file system to use ? EXT4, EXT3, EXT2 ?
[14:02] <anuta> hola
[14:02] <JStoone> MrBliss, when I type  "telnet 83.93.xx.xx 80" it outputs "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  so? Im not clear on why you are doing this song and dance really.  Or what you8 are really trying to do.
[14:02] <Out_Cold> ugh... 7am, saturday morning.. it appears I was the only one to go to bed yesterday
[14:02] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, ks for all your help
[14:02] <mnaines> If I have nine spreadsheet tabs on the same file, how do I split them up into their own individual files?
[14:02] <B3rz3rk3r> Tek-5-8-6, best is subjective.. so whatever works for you is best
[14:02] <hobbit> milad: did you install the nvidia specific drivers?  I ran into some problems with my nvidia board as well
[14:02] <anuta> holaaa
[14:02] <anuta> me aburro
[14:03] <twinforce> /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf is the file your looking for Jstoone
[14:03] <Out_Cold> !es | anuta
[14:03] <tp43> was there a new release already I just installed last week, and just now I did dist upgrade, and it put a new kernel
[14:03] <Simon1245> B3rz3rk3r, Do you got a site aswell?
[14:03] <coolguy4> dr_willis: well i found docs that explain how to do this on arch, but ubuntu doesn't use /etc/iniitab .
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> tp43:  new kernels for various bugs/security issues
[14:03] <Simon1245> B3rz3rk3r, And you usually go by Breez? Is that you?
[14:03] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: no problem. you're on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 subment
[14:03] <Spanglish_7776> subnet?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> !initab
[14:03] <MrBliss> JStoone: ok so somewhere in the network your request gets refused
[14:03] <B3rz3rk3r> Simon1245, think you have the wrong person mate
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> coolguy4:  ubuntu uses upstart and no inittab any more
[14:03] <Guest10872> my router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:03] <anuta> helow
[14:04] <Simon1245> B3rz3rk3r, Oh ok, Nvm :P Just wanted to know if the was the guy I knew :D
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
[14:04] <coolguy4> dr_willis: I know, and upstart seems very complicated
[14:04] <Guest10872> mythbuntu dhcp server is 1.10
[14:04] <anuta> in spanish
[14:04] <MrBliss> Jstoone: if you do: "netstat -an | grep -i listen", you should see the various listening ports
[14:04] <Tek-5-8-6> B3rz3rk3r : i know nothing about any of them. Not sure if anybody knew. I will be using it as a file server
[14:04] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  <IP_ADDRESS> I should say
[14:05] <xover> how can i restart the network manager from the command line?
[14:05] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: gotcha, 1 sec
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> xover:  perhaps 'sudo service network restart'
[14:05] <anuta> en espaañol
[14:05] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, you may try to disable daylight savings.
[14:05] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, network-manager no?
[14:06] <Spanglish_7776> see if that helps since it's getting it's time from ntp
[14:06] <B3rz3rk3r> Tek-5-8-6, if you dont know the difference then i wouldnt worry about too much. Personally i use EXT2 for my storage and, EXT3 for server drives and EXT4 for workstations
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  perhaps 'sudo service network??? restart' Not sure what one to use , networking, or network-manager
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  try them and see
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> xover:  if i try one.. i may get hung up from here. :)
[14:07] <xover> service returns, unrecognised service
[14:07] <xover> where do i define services?
[14:07] <Out_Cold> xover, can always use the old way "sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[14:07] <Out_Cold> "
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  sudo service network-manager restart
[14:07] <Tek-5-8-6> B3rz3rk3r : ok, I have it set up on a RAID 1 configuration with 2 1 gig SATA drives. will EXT3 be the best bet still ?
[14:07] <xover> Out_Cold: I only have networking and that doesnt work
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  sudo service networking restart
[14:07] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776 I need dlsaving else all recording on mythbuntu server will be bad
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> xover:  other then that. not sure
[14:07] <VCoolio> xover: let it autocomplete with tab
[14:07] <anuta> alguien que hable español??
[14:08] <Out_Cold> !es
[14:08] <JStoone> !paste | JStoone
[14:08] <xover> Tek-5-8-6: your FS makes no difference, RAID runs at a lower level than the FS.
[14:08] <xover> that only works when you predefine your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:08] <B3rz3rk3r> Tek-5-8-6, again as i said before, there is no "best", but yes, EXT3 will work just fine for that setup
[14:08] <xover> the network manager is handling my interfaces, but that doesnt seem to restart it
[14:09] <Out_Cold> xover, i believe so.. what are you trying to reset?
[14:09] <xover> B3rz3rk3r: what size data are you storing on your RAID?
[14:09] <Tek-5-8-6> thanks for your help
[14:09] <anuta> en españool
[14:09] <Guest10872>  no problem. you're on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 subnet? do I change <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>/24?ent
[14:09] <xover> Out_Cold: my wireless connection
[14:09] <marcus_> hello :) I've run into a problem when trying to run fsck.ext4 on my /dev/md0-device. it fails with this error message "Error determining size of the physical device: File too large" its a rather large device, around 18TB
[14:09] <xover> I want it to disconnect and reconnect
[14:09] <marcus_> I'm not sure how to proceed
[14:09] <Out_Cold> xover, in gnome?
[14:09] <Seveas> marcus_, 64 bit system?
[14:09] <xover> no, not from X
[14:09] <marcus_> Seveas: yes
[14:09] <marcus_> Seveas: Linux hq 2.6.31-19-server #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 03:40:48 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:10] <BluesKaj> xover, sudo dhclient wlan0/eth0 should start it
[14:10] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 I mean on the clients
[14:10] <xover> BluesKaj: I dont use DHCP
[14:10] <Seveas> I think something in fsck.ext4 doesn't like drives of that size yet. Would be odd though
[14:10] <Out_Cold> xover, then i would sudo ifconfig wlan0 down && sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:10] <JStoone> MrBliss, this is some of output http://paste.ubuntu.com/375498/
[14:10] <B3rz3rk3r> xover, it was Tek-5-8-6 that needed the help
[14:10] <BluesKaj> xover, neither do I , I use static but it still works on eth0
[14:11] <JStoone> MrBliss, want the rest of the output?
[14:11] <xover> Out_Cold: that does not work as the networkmanager stores the interface details, that only works if you configure the cards in 'interfaces'
[14:11] <MrBliss> Jstoone: ok yourbox is listening on port 80
[14:11] <marcus_> Seveas: my google-foo turned up this rather unsetteling article: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.ext4/12763
[14:11] <Out_Cold> xover, wrong
[14:11] <marcus_> Seveas: might it be that its still some troubles left over from that?
[14:11] <Out_Cold> xover, ifup and ifdown use /etc/interfaces
[14:11] <MrBliss> Jstoone: do you have a router in your network?
[14:11] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, http://paste.ubuntu.com/375501/
[14:12] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  this is clients
[14:12] <Guest10872> I edited last 2 lines only
[14:12] <Tek-5-8-6> The data on the drive will be accessed by many users, The main OS is on a 50Gig partition with a 3 gig swap. Then the data will sit on the rest of the 900 + Gig partition
[14:12] <lantizia> Hey I know theres really basic non-DE type things like fluxbox... does anyone know of one (i.e. not gnome/kde/lxde/xfce - but simpler) that is also freedesktop.org menu spec driven?
[14:12] <JStoone> MrBliss, Yes sadly I has..
[14:12] <JStoone> MrBliss, Yes sadly I have*
[14:12] <Seveas> marcus_, did you resize the filesystem then?
[14:13] <marcus_> Seveas: no, didnt get that far
[14:13] <MrBliss> Jstoone: is that configured correctly?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  thers smaller window managers.. but as for a 'de' lxde is about as tiny as you get.
[14:13] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 you have to specify you're server on the clients is the time on mythubuntu correct?
[14:13] <marcus_> I was going to run the scan first, then resize
[14:13] <ziroday> lantizia: openbox?
[14:13] <lantizia> Dr_Willis, no I don't want a DE
[14:13] <Seveas> marcus_, which ubuntu version?
[14:13] <marcus_> 9.10
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  unless you some how make up you rown from wm/filemanager/launchers
[14:13] <MrBliss> Jstoone: i.e. does it forward port 80 to your server
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  The look for the various window managers out there.
[14:13] <Seveas> !info e2fsprogh karmic
[14:13] <Seveas> !info e2fsprogs karmic
[14:13] <mmaksimov> hi. something happened with my keyboard input. i was moving a windows to another workspace via ctrl-alt-shift-arrow, and it freezed, i mean, stopped moving. apparently, the system is ignoring ctrl and shift keys now. i don't want to reboot the system. any suggestions?
[14:13] <lantizia> ziroday, Dr_Willis, yeah I want it as basic as can be... but can actually understand the freedesktop menu structure
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  some unclude tools to genreate menus from the desktop.org desktop configs
[14:14] <papa> hola
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  not sure of any that use the .desktip stuff by default.
[14:14] <Seveas> marcus_,  that version includes those patches, so I think the gmane article is irrelevant
[14:14] <ziroday> lantizia: sounds like openbox to me
[14:14] <JStoone> MrBliss; Yes, I called my ISP some days ago and I asked if Port 20, 21, 80 and 8080 was open and he  said yes.
[14:14] <marcus_> Seveas: was thinking a bug that extensive might still have some quirks left behind
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> lantizia:  there are teh xdxg (?) tools that can convert *.desktop to various menu formats used by many wms
[14:14] <Guest10872> On the mythbuntu server the yime is correct
[14:15] <twinforce> JStoone: who is your ISP?
[14:15] <cryptk> so I think I really finally killed my mouse freeze problem...
[14:15] <cryptk> Legacy USB
[14:15] <cryptk> unfortunately now I cannot select other OS's from grub...
[14:15] <Guest10872> I need to add in the server list? and remove the pool ones
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  a Legacy you will never forget?
[14:15] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, lol
[14:15] <simo_> irc://irc.xtremespeeds.net:6667/xtremespeeds
[14:15] <JStoone> twinforce, I'm from Denmark. They are called YouSee
[14:15] <chiiiiiz> hello!!
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  yep. seen that issue in the past. cant use keyboard in gryb but bios works..
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  once i tried that setting.. windows wouldent even boot properly
[14:15] <chiiiiiz> I need help on video transcoding with avidemux!!!
[14:15] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: does mythubuntu have a FQDN? (server.domain.com)
[14:16] <cryptk> Dr_Willis, your saying that windows required Legacy USB? lol
[14:16] <twinforce> JStoone: ahhhh, I'm not familiar with them. I know in the US that most of our major ISPs prohibit traffic on those ports
[14:16] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: if so use the FQDN if not use the IP
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  No - windows wouldent boot If i had legacy enabled.
[14:16] <twinforce> unless you have business accounts
[14:16] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: server mythubuntu ip
[14:16] <cryptk> ahh, so it required it to be off...
[14:16] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: and comment out the rest
[14:16] <JStoone> twinforce, well I can give them a call again?
[14:16] <chiiiiiz> I have loads of video in wmv (TV programs), and my multimedia hard disc can onbly read avi, so I am trying to transcode my wmv into avi...
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> cryptk:  on an old pc. I had to get a ps2 keyboard just to get  to the grub options/menus :)
[14:17] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: see if that helps, don't forget to restart the ntp server.
[14:17] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776, ah ok thanks
[14:17] <Spanglish_7776> clients*
[14:17] <cryptk> I know Grub2 has alot of features that original grub didn't... I wonder if there is a way to give it USB HID capability bypassing the Legacy USB requirement
[14:17] <twinforce> JStoone: do they have a website with a FAQ or terms of service, because you can search there. You could also search for it on Google
[14:17] <chiiiiiz> But I have a problem with the audio that is not sync with the video anylonger, while it is perfect on the original wmv... any idea?
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  'avi' is a container as is wmv you need to learn what codec you need to convert them to . and any other limits of the device
[14:17] <JStoone> Yea, I'll take a look around (:
[14:18] <stevemc> goodmorning, Is there any way to get the wifi on my laptop to connect without giving the master password for the keyring everytime I boot?
[14:18] <chiiiiiz> Dr_Willis: Thanks... Ok, so... where shall I start from?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  the ffmpeg and mencoder homepage/docs/faq i have seen some sections on audio sync issues
[14:18] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone, I'm seeing you have an issue with apache?, I'd like to try and help, what's the issue again?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  video 'encoding' is a very deep topic. all sorts of little things to watch out for,
[14:19] <marcus_> Seveas: anything I can do to give more information? I sort of know how to use the ubuntu server, but not how to figure out stuff like this :)
[14:19] <JStoone> Spanglish_776: My main problem is that none of the servers I hold want to go online.. my vsftpd is only local, my apache is only local and my Subsonic server is also only local.. :S
[14:20] <chiiiiiz> What does it depend on? the original codec? The size?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> chiiiiiz:  it can.  and theres different codecs you can use for audio and so forth
[14:20] <mmaksimov> the system is ignoring ctrl and shift keys. mouse and everything else seems ok. i don't want to reboot. any suggestions?
[14:20] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone: can you access them from within the LAN?
[14:20] <Seveas> marcus_, sorry, but I have no clue how to debug this further :(
[14:20] <twinforce> JStoone: silly question, but does your computer go through a router?
[14:21] <marcus_> Seveas: thanks for the try anyway :) you have any idea how I should proceed?
[14:21] <MrBliss> Jstoone: I have a router from my ISP but I have to configure it myself
[14:21] <marcus_> Seveas: bug-report?
[14:21] <JStoone> Spanglish_7776: Yes, my moms boyfriend has a MAC and it can acces all my servers without any problems..
[14:21] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone: that was my next question if you have a router have you forwarded the ports to the internal servers?
[14:21] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  how can i check client is using ntp?
[14:22] <Guest10872> time is still 1 hour wrong
[14:22] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872, 1 sec
[14:22] <Seveas> marcus_, backup, pray and reformat. Maybe use a different fs. I think a bugreport is only useful if there's more data to gather, but try finding existing bugreports
[14:22] <Guest10872> after restart and changing server
[14:22] <marcus_> Seveas: backup isnt really an option :/ its 18 TB of data on a raid 6
[14:22] <Guest10872> I changed to server <IP_ADDRESS> which is server and commented out others
[14:23] <Seveas> buy another 18TB. Gives you some room for growth too ;)
[14:23] <JStoone> twinforce: Yes I am behind a router but I called my ISP and they told me all the ports I asked for are Open..
[14:23] <marcus_> Seveas: HAHA!
[14:23] <marcus_> Seveas: thanks ;) I'll go dig for bug-reports now
[14:23] <Seveas> (It's what we at work do. We love terabytes.)
[14:23] <twinforce> JStoone: that only applies to wether or not they block them. Did you check to see if the applicable ports were port forwarded?
[14:23] <Spanglish_7776> Gguest10872: try ntpq -p localhost in the terminal on the clinet
[14:23] <Spanglish_7776> client*
[14:23] <tinotinoti> HOLA
[14:23] <JStoone> MrBliss, Well my ISP, YouSee, are sooo 'genious' that they won't let me configure it by myself.
[14:23] <Spanglish_7776> sorry
[14:24] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872 ntpq -p <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:24] <Seveas> hello tinotinoti, what can we do for you?
[14:24] <tinotinoti> HELLO
[14:24] <JStoone> No, how can I check that?
[14:24] <twinforce> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2 might help you JStoone
[14:24] <Spanglish_7776> !es | tinotinoti
[14:24] <marcus_> Seveas: dumpe2fs hangs after journal size... can that be relevant?
[14:24] <Guest10872> connection refused?
[14:25] <Seveas> marcus_, I would not be surprised if it were
[14:25] <Guest10872> Spanglish_7776,  connection refused
[14:25] <mmaksimov> the system is ignoring ctrl and shift keys. mouse and everything else seems ok. i don't want to reboot. any suggestions?
[14:25] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: let me take another look at the server conf, 1 sec
[14:25] <Seveas> mmaksimov, restart the X server
[14:25] <cryptk> hrm... I am seeing lots of issues with Legacy USB enabled on 64 bit ubuntu with mouse and keyboard freeze...
[14:25] <mmaksimov> Seveas; how?
[14:26] <Clarissa> Ciao a tutti
[14:26] <Seveas> mmaksimov, log out and log back in
[14:26] <Seveas> hello Clarissa
[14:27] <cryptk> so it seems that a bug in the 64 bit version is causing USB HID problems with Legacy USB enabled... solution, disable Legacy USB... then you have replaced one problem with another one because now you won't be able to use GRUB or GRUB2
[14:27] <Soul_Sample> is there a way to configure more than 12 keyboard shortcuts in gnome?
[14:28] <JStoone> twinforce, What site is this? It onlt tells me that my refresh button is disabled for security purposes? haha..
[14:29] <twinforce>  JStoone: oh, this is a website that checks to see what ports are open to the Internet. You could just skip this, and go into the configuration of your router and find settings that are called "port forwarding"
[14:30] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: uncomment #restrict <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> notrust on the server and configure it to be restrict <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> notrust
[14:30] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: restart server and client
[14:31] <cryptk> seems like it is possible to enable USB device support in grub2
[14:32] <kaki> cryptk !!!!
[14:32] <kaki> please
[14:32] <CAPcap> how do i remove LXDE?
[14:32] <kaki> how i can sync my pocket PC with ubuntu
[14:32] <francisco1> olaaa
[14:32] <twinforce> i'll bbl
[14:33] <twinforce> JStoone: if you need more help, Google your router model and port forwarding
[14:33] <fabiosl> does anyone have Namoroka installed?
[14:33] <Guest10872>  ntpq -p <IP_ADDRESS> gives a whole heap of info
[14:33] <JStoone> twinforce.  How did you realize that?
[14:36] <ubuntu> i did shrink mac disk . do i need to install grub when i install ubuntu?
[14:36] <marcus_> Seveas: lets just say I've tapped into every friend i have in the "hack linux to work no matter what"-field
[14:36] <marcus_> one of them just asked me to do the dumpe2fs and grep for block size
[14:37] <Spanglish_7776> Guest10872: did you uncomment #broadcast <IP_ADDRESS> on the server as well? make sure it's confgured broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:37] <marcus_> Seveas: is it possible to make the block size larger without loosing the FS?
[14:38] <ehnde> i was just reading a pdf file, scrolling through it, and it closed
[14:38] <ehnde> same thing has been happening when i use pidgin
[14:38] <ehnde> anyone know what could cause that?
[14:38] <kaki> like what for example ? ehnde
[14:38] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: welcome back
[14:38] <CAPcap> how do i fully remove LXDE?
[14:39] <marcus_> Seveas: some of them just arnt very patient, so when he gave me the answer he didnt feel like helping more :P
[14:39] <marcus_> "friends" ^^
[14:39] <ehnde> kaki: the application closed
[14:39]  * Guest_52558  maybe the pidgin needs better quality seeds
[14:39] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I'm back on now - on my old computer.  You still there?
[14:39] <marduuk> good morning
[14:40] <kaki> try to reinstall it
[14:40] <ehnde> kaki: it closed while i was using it, nothing more than scrolling through the document using my mouse wheel
[14:40] <marduuk> quick question for the gurus
[14:40] <ehnde> kaki: i don't think it's isolated to one package because both pidgin and the pdf reader included with ubuntu are exiting while i use them
[14:40] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  Good to be back - especially since I'm finally going to be able to use my computer with Ubuntu !!!
[14:41] <marduuk> im trying to reinstall ubuntu but it will only read my drives as a raid for one... if i unplug all but 1 drive and install it refuses to install grub or lilo
[14:41] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: awesome ;)
[14:41] <JStoone> twinforce: Shit I cannot remember my routers Username and Passowrd... isn't there some cracking commands to find out xD
[14:41] <kaki> is it close but you  steel connect ??
[14:41] <marcus_> JStoone: reset it
[14:41] <Spanglish_7776> almight reset, always fun ;)
[14:42] <JStoone> marcus... is that the only way?
[14:42] <Out_Cold> JStoone, there is a hard reset feature, anything else can be considered unlawful and off topic
[14:42] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776: Has sebsebseb been gabbin' while I've been out? Or has he stepped away?
[14:42] <ehnde> kaki: nope, i was talking to a friend and they said that i went offline
[14:42] <marcus_> JStoone: I would think so
[14:42] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone, did you change the default?
[14:42] <ehnde> strange, huh?
[14:42] <yaurero> hola a todos soy novato en esto por favor ayuda
[14:42] <ziroday> !es | yaurero
[14:42] <JStoone> Spanglish_7776: Yes I think my moms boyfriend did..
[14:42] <Pudgy> Hi all, I'm a bit a a loss how you should start programs and tag them at the same time in wmii (3.6) from wmiirc. Does anyone have that solved?
[14:42] <yaurero> si hay alguien que entienda el español
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08I haven't seen him talking, he may of stepped away.
[14:43] <Pudgy> Solutions from google are not clear on this.
[14:43] <yaurero> ok gracias
[14:43] <kaki> you didn't find it in system tray ???
[14:43] <marduuk> anyone? is it a partitioning issue?
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> JStoone, guess? (yea, I know not helpful)
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm
[14:43] <Spanglish_7776> I don't know of anything to hack routers but doesn't mean there isn't anything. I'd ask moms bf ;)
[14:43] <ehnde> kaki: no, it's not in the system tray
[14:44] <Out_Cold> JStoone, there are brute force methods for cracking routers but again.. wrong place to ask
[14:44] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  OK - do you mind if I confer with you then - to continue with my Ubuntu install?
[14:44] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08. I
[14:44] <ehnde> kaki: ps x | grep pidgin (and pdf) shows no running process
[14:44] <JStoone> Out_Cold: thanks, but a little hard..
[14:44] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: I'll give it a go
[14:44] <Blue112> Hi here. I'm currently on a livecd because my ubuntu 9.10 doesn't want to start since I update grub yesterday... How could I repare it ?
[14:45] <Blue112> Grub tells me "Unknown symbol grub_env" or something like that
[14:46] <rambo298> i've lost my pam and pam.d directory. i've tried everything to recover (even loaded the source pkg, rebuilt and installed) but nothing recreates pam.d. is there a way without reinstalling ubuntu?
[14:47] <Tek-5-8-6> What is different about ubuntu 9.10 DVD from the normal ubuntu 9.10 CD ?
[14:47] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  OK - I didn't get to pushing the blue Access IBM button before the welcome screen showed up for the Ubuntu installation.  So on my Thinkpad - I'm at that welcome screen right now.  I have the following options: "Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer", "Install Ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "Test memory" "Boot from first hard disk".  At the bottom of the screen it reads "Press f4 to select alterna
[14:47] <Blue112> More software included Tek-5-8-6
[14:47] <rambo298> anyone help on pam and pam.d?
[14:48] <Tek-5-8-6> Ahh and drivers ?
[14:48] <Spanglish_7776> PJC80LA08: Try Ubuntu without any change to your computer
[14:48] <Spanglish_7776> iPJC80LA08: it will boot the LiveCD
[14:48] <Blue112> Tek-5-8-6: Not sure.
[14:48] <kaki> ehnde
[14:48] <WierdAAR> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu, and when ever I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep. And that fine, but it wont start up again. The sleep diode stops flashing but the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[14:49] <kaki> try this         http://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2008-April/001118.html
[14:49] <ehnde> kaki: yes sir?
[14:49] <omenmaster> can some1 help - screen goes black while using 9.10 and i have to reboot to get it back up again. thanks
[14:49] <PJC80LA08> Spanglish_7776:  These are the instructions that sebsebseb gave me before I left the chat room: 1.  Check the disk you burned is good using the disk checker on the CD once the computer has booted from the CD.  2.  Boot up the live session on the CD  try Ubuntu without touching hard disk option  3.  open Firefox try Internet should work.  Any  hardware issues tell me here on IRC.  4.  Install Xchat onto the Live CD already told
[14:50] <ehnde> kaki: ok thank you i will try running pidgin like that and monitor it closely
[14:50] <PJC80LA08> I do also want to have Ubuntu on a partition if possible - and keep Windows XP in tact ...
[14:50] <kaki> ok friend good luck
[14:51] <omenmaster> can some1 help - screen goes black while using 9.10 and i have to reboot to get it back up again. thanks
[14:52] <PJC80LA08> OK - both of the users that were helping me are no longer on.  Can anyone else help me with my Ubuntu installation?
[14:52] <Blue112> Hi here. I'm currently on a livecd because my ubuntu 9.10 doesn't want to start since I update grub yesterday... How could I repare it ? It says "Can't find symbol blah blah"...
[14:53] <BluesKaj> PJC80LA08, have you partitioned your HDD yet to make room for ubuntu and swap?
[14:53] <WierdAAR> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu, and when ever I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep. And that fine, but it wont start up again. The sleep diode stops flashing but the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[14:53] <phong_> hey guys how to register a username
[14:53] <khamael> how can I safely remove pulseaudio?
[14:53] <Guest68989> ntp time wrong on mythbuntu clients
[14:54] <Guest68989> time is correct on mythbuntu server
[14:54] <Blue112> !pulseaudio
[14:54] <Blue112> Fail.
[14:54] <Guest68989> time is 1 hour wrong on clients beacuse of daylight savings
[14:54] <Guest68989> help me please!
[14:54] <enzotib> ops: andi_07 spams in query
[14:54] <user__> how do I search in a folder?
[14:54] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 hi again
[14:55] <Seveas> enzotib, you'll want to put a ! in front of ops or join #ubuntu-ops
[14:55] <PJC80LA08> BluesKaj:  No, I haven't done any partitioning yet.  I have 28 GB of free space.  I currently just chose the option on the welcome screen to "Try Ubuntu without any change to my computer".
[14:55] <khamael> Blue112: whenever i run spotify via wine, I can`t get sound in firefox. the wine channel said I had to remove pulseaudio
[14:55] <enzotib> Seveas: thank you, I know, but don't want to be too hard
[14:55] <Seveas> enzotib, spammers should be banned :)
[14:56] <enzotib> yeah
[14:56] <omenmaster> can some1 help - screen goes black while using 9.10 and i have to reboot to get it back up again. thanks
[14:56] <Blue112> Hi here. I'm currently on a livecd because my ubuntu 9.10 doesn't want to start since I update grub yesterday... How could I repare it ? It says "error the symbol 'grub_env_find' not found"
[14:57] <user__> why is there no "Search this folder" in the right klick menu when browsing folders on the computer?
[14:57] <CAPcap> can i safely remove xubuntu-gdm-theme which is like the greeting/login screen with first changing back to the ubuntu login as my default?
[14:58] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  check CD first, make sure that passe's then boot up the live session
[14:58] <WierdAAR> user_: in ubuntu there should be a search function in the filemanager
[14:58] <CAPcap> note: the ubuntu login screen is still installed, i was hoping it would automatically revert
[14:59] <BluesKaj> PJC80LA08, I use gparted live cd to do my partitioning , it's safe and effective . I can't say how good the ubuntu live cd is at partitioning , so I can't advise you on it's use. reboot into windows download gparted live cd and then use it to resize, format to ext4 and make a small swap paririon if you wish.
[14:59] <daHouse> 97_chd<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:59] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj  PJC80LA08  Gparted Live CD is not needed
[14:59] <blanju> hi
[15:00] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  I'm currently running Ubuntu off the boot disk (I'm in Ubuntu now).  Off the welcome screen, I chose "Try Ubuntu without any changes to your computer".  This is what Spanglish told me to do.  How do I shut down now and start over where we need to?  Or can I check the CD first right here in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <gigi> ciao atutti
[15:00] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08 re boot the computer and do the check CD  for defects
[15:01] <sebsebseb> PJC80LA08  the thing on the top right for shut down, or just turn the computer off
[15:01] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, this is my advice to him ..if you would like to help him , be my guest ...I didn't say gparted was needed , but I did say gparted works safely and effectively
[15:01] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj Gparted is also  on the Ubuntu Live CD.  re sizing Windows in gparted first then finnishing off manual install is probably easier for this PJC80LA08 person though
[15:01] <iflema> CAPcap sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[15:02] <Guest68989> ntp time wrong on mythbuntu clients
[15:02] <Guest68989> help me please
[15:02] <Sumit> nick Sumit
[15:02] <Guest68989> time is out 1 hour
[15:02] <Guest68989> using diskless mythbuntu
[15:02] <WierdAAR> user_: in ubuntu there should be a search function in the filemanager
[15:02] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj or it could all be done in manual install, he is going to have a seperate /home   shame guided install doesn't have an option for one of those really
[15:02] <WierdAAR> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu, and when ever I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep. And that fine, but it wont start up again. The sleep diode stops flashing but the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[15:03] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK - I'm shut down now.  I'm reinserting the disc and booting back up ...  BOY - Ubuntu is KICK ASS FAST !!!
[15:03] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yes that's what i was bout to suggest , but I prefer a separate gparted livecd to the one located on the OS live cd
[15:03] <ziroday> Guest68989: #mythbuntu is the best place to ask
[15:03] <Sumit> I have just installed zsh...but when I type zsh in run window nothing happens...m i missing something after installation?
[15:04] <llutz> Sumit: its a shell, need a terminal/console
[15:04] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, PJC80LA08 one can use gparted live cd to move and resize windows partitions as well, it's a good tool .
[15:04] <llutz> Sumit: type "xterm zsh"
[15:04] <CAPcap> thanks
[15:04] <Sumit> llutz: you mean I should type in terminal?
[15:04] <iflema> WierdAAR how much RAM? how big the swap?
[15:05] <Sumit> ok
[15:05] <PJC80LA08> Ooops.  Didn't get the disc in - in enough time before it started booting into Windows.  And now it's doing a hard disk check.  DOH!  I'll just have to wait and then restart ...
[15:05] <Guest68989> 2 gig swap
[15:05] <sebsebseb> BluesBaj feel free to help him as well, but this is the set up I want PJC80LA08 to have.  right so his Windows partition of course, and I guess any recovery partition for Windows as well, since he wants to dual boot.    10 to 12GB for /   and big seperate home  and  double his RAM or whatever for SWAP space depending on how much he has
[15:05] <lucjan> hi
[15:05] <kannan> hey guys
[15:06] <marduuk> ok... how can i fix mbr from live disk.... it reports that the disk is part of raid0
[15:06] <lucjan> karmic-proposed don't works
[15:06] <iflema> WierdAAR in a terminal type free -m far left top and bottom.....
[15:06] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj above,  I am typing in names now, since my auto complete has messed up for this channel herm
[15:06] <sebsebseb> hrm
[15:06] <PJC80LA08> sebsebseb:  OK, I'm checking the disc for defects ... just pushed Enter for it off the Ubuntu welcome screen ...
[15:06] <sebsebseb> ok good
[15:07] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, yeah most machines with 4G Ram ratrely need a swap , but it's a good thing to have ..limited partiition space however prolly indicates less Ram too.