  I get no end user setup again.
[11:59] <davmor2> jibel: and the checksums are right this time
[12:00] <pitti> flexiondotorg: is bug 1426905 still a problem on current images?
[12:00] <jibel> davmor2, I will, with next build. Rebuild is in progress
[12:00] <flexiondotorg> pitti, I can't reproduce it.
[12:01] <flexiondotorg> pitti, cjwatson helped update the live seeds some weeks back which we believe should have resolved the issue.
[12:01] <flexiondotorg> pitti, I've had no feedback it is broken and current image testing has not flagged it up.
[12:02] <pitti> flexiondotorg: ok, then I guess we can un-milestone it for now?
[12:02] <flexiondotorg> pitti, Yep.
[12:02] <flexiondotorg> pitti, What does un-milestone it mean exaclty?
[12:03] <davmor2> jibel: I should add that secureboot is enabled that might have something to do with it too I guess @D
[12:03] <davmor2> :D even
[12:03] <pitti> flexiondotorg: mostly that it falls off https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-15.04
[12:03] <pitti> I'd like to clean that up so that we have an useful radar of what still needs fixing/changing
[12:05] <flexiondotorg> pitti, However - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1426905/comments/9
[12:05] <flexiondotorg> The last comment seem to imply this is an issue in  Ubuntu GNOME too if you have more than one drive.
[12:08] <pitti> jibel: bug 1428877
[12:09] <davmor2> jibel: on a plus side enter reboots and on i386 on hardware you can exit the live session and reboot into the newly installed session :) \o/
[12:09] <davmor2> back after lunch for some more
[12:37] <jibel> davmor2, ^ you can download from pending until the bot promotes them to current
[12:49] <davmor2> jibel: sure
[12:52] <davmor2> jibel: zsyncs pending now
[12:54] <elopio> ping brendand_: Saviq is asking for help in #ubuntu-autopilot. You should be there too while you are vanguard.
[12:54] <elopio> brendand_: <Saviq> hey guys, do you have an idea how to work around this failure https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-mako/2080/console
 it is a real bug (bug #1421009), but until we can fix it, I'd like to try a workaround that would catch the introspection timeout and restart unity in that case
 bug 1421009 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "unity8 sometimes hangs on boot" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1421009
 but it seems ap catches the timeout and tries again... and again... and again... which, in itself seems to be a bug (shall I file?)
[12:55] <elopio> can you take care of it?
[13:06] <Saviq> elopio, I asked yesterday night, was brendand_ vanguard then, too? ;)
[13:06]  * brendand_ isn't in ubuntu-autopilot :/
[13:41] <davmor2> jibel: good news, OEM from the pending image has the end user setup tool \o/
[13:41] <jibel> davmor2, Good news \o/
[13:47] <davmor2> jibel: one bit of bad news however shouldn't  the oem user network be setup?  ie info for the ap and password be taken from the install?
[13:57] <elopio> Saviq: probably not :) Next time, please make sure to ping ubuntu-qa, that's the highlight we all follow.
[13:58] <elopio> now fgimenez is the vanguard. Can you take care of this? ^
[13:59] <davmor2> brendand_: I saw what you did then you said in instead of an very clever ;)
[14:00] <fgimenez> elopio, ok i'll take a look
[14:01] <elopio> thanks.
[14:10] <davmor2> jibel: Woohoo!!!!! OEM has worked \o/
[14:52] <elopio> \o/ shiny and new mako screen.
[14:52] <elopio> lets see if this one lasts...
[14:56] <balloons> elopio, heh.. again? or did you just now get around to replacing?
[14:57] <balloons> elopio, I'll also note my replacement mako screen suffers from phantom touches. It will occasionally register touches all by itself
[15:00] <elopio> balloons: again, this is screen #3.
[15:01] <elopio> maybe I should get a better bumper.
[15:01] <balloons> elopio, yikes
[15:02] <elopio> michelle will hate me when I return this poor phone, but that's field testing right?
[15:02] <elopio> por las calles de Costa Rica.
[15:02] <balloons> I bought a huge bumper.. the whole thing is wrapped now
[15:02] <balloons> elopio, jaja
[15:06] <elopio> http://grooveshark.com/s/08+En+Las+Calles+De+Costa+Rica/55wuNV?src=5
[15:09] <davmor2> jibel: do we know why memcheck isn't an option on amd64 under uefi/secureboot?
[15:11] <davmor2> jibel: release notes are in place now and open as expected \o/
[15:13] <davmor2> jibel: hmm the wording does make it sound like we have Firefox and Chromium installed by default though, with, Firefox is updated to version 36 and Chromium is updated to version 41
[15:48] <elopio> vila: so, it's important to get the dep8 tests running in a bare qemu because our second priority for CI is to run dep8s on silos.
[15:49] <vila> right
[15:49] <elopio> if they fail in proposed-migration, we won't be able to put the dep8s in trunk.
[15:50] <vila> indeed
[15:52] <elopio> vila: if you got that solved, then next step is to make sure they run in the phone.
[15:52] <elopio> right now, they require phablet-config writable-image before.
[15:53] <vila> elopio: https://pastebin.canonical.com/130130/ is what is working from a bare qemu
[15:53] <elopio> vila: push it to the branch please.
[15:54] <vila> elopio: re-running once to make sure
[15:54] <vila> elopio: and then I'll push ;)
[15:54] <elopio> we still need to add to that the condition to start xvfb.
[15:54] <vila> yup
[15:55] <vila> elopio: what's the preferred way to detect that we're running on a phone (or on the desktop) ?
[15:55] <elopio> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~autopilot/autopilot/trunk/view/head:/autopilot/platform.py#L163
[15:55] <elopio> I think the question is whether we have mir or not.
[15:56] <vila> elopio: right, that's the real question
[15:56] <elopio> pgrep unity-system-compositor
[15:56] <vila> elopio: I almost tempted to say that autopilot should do that (including xvfb setup like we did for sst)
[15:57] <elopio> I'm unclear there.
[15:57] <flexiondotorg> elfy, You about/
[15:57] <elopio> could be good.
[15:58] <elopio> what I would like is an autopilot headless mode, but that's not possible without the headless mir.
[15:58] <elfy> flexiondotorg: sort of, just doing some quick smokescreen checks - been in about 20 minutes
[15:58] <vila> elopio: it's at least possible on X
[15:59] <elopio> with a headless mir, we could depend on mirvfb | xvfb, and then call autopilot --headless, which will figure out which one to start.
[15:59] <elfy> good day quality channel people
[15:59] <vila> elopio: yup, is there a card for mirvfb ?
[16:00] <elopio> vila: there is a bug, but after long discussion we came out with the solution of asking CI to provision a kvm with gxl.
[16:00] <elopio> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/setup_kvm_for_mir.html
[16:00] <elopio> then the bug priority was not raised.
[16:00] <elopio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1239872
[16:02] <elopio> vila: there are some tests that won't run properly on xvfb, like the ones that require url-dispatcher.
[16:03] <elopio> url-dispatcher is only configured during mir startup.
[16:03] <vila> elopio: then the tests should require that
[16:03] <vila> elopio: and they'll be skipped otherwise
[16:03] <vila> urgh ff crashed
[16:06] <balloons> elopio, the song you linked was cool.. La máquina de hacer pájaros is an interesting artist name. What does it mean?
[16:07] <elopio> balloons: the bird making machine. It's from argentina.
[16:07] <balloons> are they instrumental only?
[16:09] <elfy> hi balloons
[16:09] <elopio> balloons: no, they sing on some.
[16:12] <vila> elopio: pgrep unity-system-compositor fails on both the phone and the desktop
[16:13] <vila> elopio: despite being there in 'ps fax'
[16:14] <vila> elopio: branch pushed after a succesful run by the way
[16:14] <balloons> ahh, I like instrumental stuff. I'll listen to more.. Favorite album by them?
[16:14] <balloons> elfy, howdy howdy!
[16:15] <balloons> my image is freshly synced and it's time to dive back in.. right after I eat :-)
[16:15] <flexiondotorg> elfy, In the QA tracker I am unsure if I should be failing test cases.
[16:16] <flexiondotorg> elfy, For example, the shutdown/reboot thing with Virtualbox.
[16:16] <elfy> balloons: well try vbox first - just to put you in the mood
[16:16] <elfy> flexiondotorg: well
[16:16] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I get an installed system. So, should I pass or fail?
[16:16] <elfy> the thing is at the end of the day - YOU are the one marking them as ready or not
[16:17] <elopio> thanks vila.
[16:17] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I will mark them ready, I have documented the vbox thing in the release note.
[16:17] <elfy> so regardless of whether fail here or not - if you are happy to make as ready
[16:17] <elfy> flexiondotorg: I'd not do that till tomorrow
[16:17] <elfy> stops people reporting against it
[16:17] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I am not going to mark them until tomorrow when others have had the oppotunity to test.
[16:17] <flexiondotorg> elfy, But based on what I've done, they are looking good.
[16:18] <elfy> aah right, thought you meant now :)
[16:18] <elopio> vila: pgrep -f unity-system-compositor
[16:18] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I'm just curious as to how some flavour have passes when others have highlighted failures you must have encountered.
[16:19] <elfy> flexiondotorg: who knows - I don't think people are NOT seeing issues
[16:19] <vila> elopio: ha, right, far better ;)
[16:19] <elopio> balloons: they only have two, the group died soon. I like Películas.
[16:20] <elfy> flexiondotorg: re vbox, I personally am happy to mark that as a fail - it does fail the test - but, I am happy to make them ready - we'll just note that on release notes
[16:22] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Thanks for the clarification.
[16:22] <flexiondotorg> elfy, I agree with your approach.
[16:27] <jibel> davmor2, anything to report on desktop images?
[16:27] <jibel> davmor2, I did Chinese, screen reader, weird partitions, no-network, non-english tests and some others and didn't find anything critital
[16:28] <jibel> critical*
[16:28] <davmor2> still going on i386 but so far nothing blocking so far
[16:45] <teward> have final-state ISOs been made available for initial testing yet, or does that wait until release tomorrow
[16:46] <elfy> teward: what we have now is likely to be it I hope
[16:46] <teward> hope so too, my Vivid VM is asploded and needs a reinstall so meh
[16:47] <elfy> if you're usiing vbox there are issues
[16:49] <elfy> well - an issue from *my*perspective - be prepared to reboot at wall
[16:49] <teward> elfy: mmm, nope, still not using vbox :P
[16:49] <teward> vmware's what i've been using :)
[16:50] <elfy> no idea with that I'm afraid
[16:51] <kenvandine> elopio, next week at our sprint, i'm going to talk to mardy about the need to reorganize our plugins for qml tests
[16:51] <elfy> teward: test results of an install from that would be useful I guess
[16:51] <elopio> kenvandine: cool, thanks.
[16:51] <kenvandine> elopio, i haven't forgotten, just good to have f2f time :)
[16:52] <elopio> kenvandine: I agree. I would like to be there too :)
[16:57] <flexiondotorg> teward, Look out for this one with Vmware. Would be interested to know if it is affected - http://launchpad.net/bugs/1447038
[16:57] <teward> flexiondotorg: gotta zsync the image down first :0
[16:58] <teward> with crappy campus wifi i don't think it'll be speedy
[17:00] <ianorlin> flexiondotorg: it doesn't effect kvm/qemu I just tested with a lubuntu-desktop image
[17:01] <flexiondotorg> ianorlin, Yep. I confirm that kvm/qemu seem unaffected.
[17:01]  * teward drags wxl out into the open :p
[17:01] <wxl> teward: dude that filed that bug left a comment on the original bug, so i was asking him to file a new one and then flexiondotorg mentioned it
[17:01] <wxl> wait, is flexiondotorg gravy45?
[17:03] <flexiondotorg> wxl, No I am not gravy45
[17:03] <flexiondotorg> gravy45 is test Ubuntu MATE though.
[17:03] <flexiondotorg> *testing
[17:05] <teward> wxl: running the test now
[17:05] <teward> wxl: now that the image finished rsync :)
[17:05] <teward> zsync*
[17:05] <teward> god i'm so used to typing rsync >.<
[17:07] <teward> wxl: #1447038 CONFIRMED with 'reboot' button on VMware Workstation 10.  CONFIRMED with 'shutdown' button on VMware Workstation 10.
[17:09] <wxl> awww fooey
[17:09] <wxl> i'm going to change the description
[17:09] <wxl> you me too it teward ?
[17:10] <wxl> head over there and leave a note about the vmware version please
[17:11] <teward> wxl: i'm generating a hardware profile per QATeam/Hardware now to include as a link - should explain the environment pretty well.
[17:15] <teward> wxl: see comment #6
[17:25] <vila> elopio: so, I've pushed my latest changes. The next step would be to run the same tests on the phone (and find the right way to express the deps). I'll dig that tomorrow
[17:25] <elopio> thanks vila.
[17:25] <elopio> I'll let you play with the branch, so I won't touch it today.
[17:27] <vila> elopio: ok
[17:44] <elfy> thanks teward
[17:45] <elfy> I suspect that (as before) fixing one fixes the other, but useful to know for release notes
[17:54] <teward> elfy: indeed.  granted that's Lubuntu - the server image from beta 2 still shuts down and reboots as it should ('cause no live environment xD)
[17:54] <teward> (and I updated my server VM via the repos and nothing broke xD)
[17:55]  * wxl slaps teward
[17:55] <elfy> oh right
[17:56] <elfy> desktop images are things currently less than favourable on vbox
[18:06] <Saviq> om26er, thanks! note the comment I just added about boot.img
[18:07] <om26er> Saviq, just flash the latest image, install the silo and reboot the device with that boot.img ?
[18:07] <Saviq> om26er, yup
[18:08] <Saviq> om26er, let me know if you have issues
[18:09] <om26er> Saviq, sure, I will.
[18:13]  * teward slaps wxl back
[18:13]  * teward then watches the slap fight ensue
[18:21] <om26er> Saviq, if i slowly swipe from the bottom dash is reset first and then the bottom edge works.
[18:23] <om26er> We could detect a Tap vs Move and act accordingly ?
[18:23] <Saviq> om26er, not a tap vs. move, at most tap vs. long press (the button isn't actually part of the touch screen)
[18:24] <Saviq> om26er, but yes, you're right, we could fix tomorrow morning if you feel this is disqualifying
[18:26] <om26er> Saviq, hmm, I think today is the window for landing before sanity and regression testing starts
[18:26] <om26er> Saviq, tomorrow GMT morning we start doing sanity and regression testing of the image.
[18:34] <tnt1> laptop will not resume from suspend vivid 15.04  using gui or systemctl supend what package do i file a bug
[19:00] <bdmurray> tnt1: the linux (kernel) package seems like a good spot
[19:01] <bdmurray> tnt1: using ubuntu-bug linux to gather log files
[19:03] <tnt1> bdmurray the problem is that this from a liveusb disk and not a installed system
[19:11] <bdmurray> tnt1: the bug reporting process is the same
[19:12] <tnt1> bdmurray ok thanks
[20:02] <Letozaf_> balloons,  hi
[22:40] <vila> elopio: ....and pushed a better version: it executes ubuntu-touch-session when needed from inside the testbed. It's a bit hackish but avoid the issues in the test deps.
[22:41] <vila> elopio: leading to bed now, If you could smoke test it on qemu and confirm it works for you, I'll try on a phone tomorrow


[07:08] <hyperair> 14.10's upstart too
[07:08] <hyperair> 15.04's systemd
[07:13] <ianorlin> hyperair: jam__ is no longer online
[07:13] <hyperair> whoops
[07:13] <hyperair> actually i didn't see jam__'s messages
[07:14] <hyperair> i saw holstein's
[07:14] <hyperair> from... 14 hours ago.
[07:14] <hyperair> =p
[17:22] <prodigy> Hello. What is the highest Linux Kernel I can use with LXLE?
[17:22] <prodigy> Version 12.04
[17:57] <prodigy> Hello!
[17:59] <pleia2> prodigy: it's entirely likely that no one who is here knows (I don't, I only use the kernels that come from the official repositories)
[18:00] <pleia2> you could try try asking on askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org if you don't want to wait here
[18:00] <pleia2> or just give it a try :) you can always boot back into an old kernel if it doesn't work
[18:10] <krytarik> prodigy: And this isn't LXLE support anyway.


[02:11] <zul> heylo
[02:23] <jbailey> =)
[02:25] <zul> damn alsa is broken
[02:26] <crimsun> which chipset?
[02:26] <zul> hold on
[02:26] <zul> Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:27] <zul> with 2.6.15-rc1-ubuntu1 was working yesterday on my laptop though
[02:27] <zul> or it could just be xmms
[02:27] <crimsun> ok, so in "broken" you mean it's muted, or ALSA doesn't load, or ...?
[02:27] <zul> alsa doesnt load
[02:30] <crimsun> 2.6.15-3.3, correct?
[02:30] <crimsun> we need to push 1.0.10 final in, then
[02:31] <zul> -1 i think i havent updated yet
[02:31] <zul> unknown pcm
[02:34] <crimsun> I know 2.6.15-3.3 works (for sound) on the ThinkPad X41-2527
[02:34] <crimsun> (same chipset, same driver, same codec)
[02:34] <zul> blah...maybe ill reboot
[02:36] <zul> brb...going to reboot
[02:59] <zul> ugh...why do people write better bug reports
[03:04] <jbailey> Eh?
[03:05] <zul> im just complaing about bug reports that dont provide enough info
[03:05] <jbailey> Perhaps you meant "don't"?
[03:05] <zul> perhaps I do
[03:05] <zul> im just too lazy to type right now
[03:59] <zul> BenC, pingishy
[02:28] <makx> where do i find the ubuntu pts?
[02:46] <infinity> We don't have one.
[02:47] <infinity> Assuming by "pts" you mean "packages.qa"
[02:49] <makx> well subscribtion on package upload, yes the link from qa.
[02:49] <infinity> Yeah, we have no such thing.
[02:49] <makx> by the way hello infinity
[02:49] <infinity> Eventually, we will, but not right now.
[02:49] <infinity> And hi.
[02:49] <makx> how are you doing?
[02:49] <infinity> I'm pretty much done being sick.
[02:50] <infinity> And I plan on working tomorrow a bit, despite it being a weekend, so if you want to sit down and talk initramfs stuff tomorrow, we can.
[02:51] <makx> ok, i'll be around
[02:52] <infinity> Cool.
[02:52] <infinity> I'll make a note to ping you or something.
[07:19] <fabbione> BenC: ping?


[00:09] <racarr_> camako: Oh...re: downstream branches
[00:09] <racarr_> I forgot about some of them
[00:09] <racarr_> https://code.launchpad.net/~mir-team/platform-api/expose-mir-connection
[00:09] <racarr_> and the corresponding qtubuntu branch should land I hope...
[00:09] <racarr_> platform-api first I guess
[00:09] <racarr_> tvoss approved plan but still needs review
[00:41] <racarr_> I tried remove-sha1sums but have already hit my interest threshold for it :)
[00:41] <RAOF> :)
[00:41] <racarr_> I really can't articulate how frustrating it is without seeming childish though :/
[00:41] <RAOF> What prevents us from using abi-compliance-checker instead of sha1sums?
[00:41] <racarr_> I think I spend probably
[00:41] <racarr_> 10-15 minutes every night
[00:41] <racarr_> updating all my current branches
[00:41] <racarr_> one by one
[00:41] <racarr_> merging trunk
[00:41] <racarr_> updating sha1sums
[00:41] <racarr_> push
[00:41] <racarr_> next branch
[00:41] <racarr_> maybe its 5 minutes
[00:41] <racarr_> but every
[00:41] <racarr_> single
[00:42] <racarr_> day
[00:42] <racarr_> lol
[00:42] <racarr_> RAOF: I dunno.
[00:45] <racarr_> Oh well im over it
[00:45] <RAOF> I might look at hooking up compliance-checker instead.
[00:45] <RAOF> That would be acceptable, I think.
[00:45] <RAOF> And also solve the problem.
[00:46] <racarr_> RAOF: You should check with...I believe AlbertA at least started
[00:47] <RAOF> There's already a compliance-checker target.
[00:47] <racarr_> mm
[00:47] <racarr_> I dunno whats wrong with it
[00:47] <racarr_> lol
[00:47] <RAOF> The trick would just be to add that to make check.
[00:47] <racarr_> or rather what it does
[00:49] <racarr_> good news is pointer event is coming together nicely
[00:49] <RAOF> Sweet!
[00:52] <racarr_> oh are we gonna do
[00:52] <racarr_> monday meeting otnight?
[00:55]  * RAOF is available.
[01:00] <racarr_> :) I will plan on being there
[01:03] <racarr_> :) It's good to be back
[03:55]  * RAOF notices he's reading the CLA thread on ubuntu-devel, and goes back to writing another smart pointer.
[08:50] <duflu> tvoss: Happy 2015... you around?
[08:51] <tvoss> duflu, a happy 2015 to you, too. Around but about to jump on a meeting. Can I ping you later?
[08:51] <duflu> tvoss: Maybe. I have meetings just about all day. I might email you instead
[08:51] <tvoss> duflu, yup, that would work
[08:51] <tvoss> duflu, we can probably sync up tomorrow my morning if needed
[08:52] <duflu> tvoss: It's a minor issue you can comment on offline
[08:53] <tvoss> duflu, ack
[09:32] <duflu> alan_g: Oh I think everyone else is still on vacation. Do we need a meeting today?
[09:32] <alan_g> nothing specific I need to address
[14:30] <kgunn> camako: so i know you're trying to make a release of code, is that to vivid and rtm ?
[15:33] <tedg> Never thought about latency of input. Makes sense for 3d goggles. https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/552485206691946496
[15:37] <camako> kgunn, just vivid
[15:39] <kgunn> camako: tooth ok ?
[15:42] <greyback> tedg: with 3d goggles, it seems latency is the big issue. As Carmack says, the motion to photon is critical
[15:42] <greyback> +time
[15:43] <tedg> Yeah, and it seems to be an issue with the samsung joypad he's playing with :-)
[15:43] <tedg> I'm actually surprised how good the bluetooth controller have gotten.
[15:43] <tedg> Worked in a group that did wireless controllers back in 2002, it's tricky.
[15:50] <alan_g> camako: I had a brief look at lp:1407863 - and concluded that something happen to the CI environment (because a null change fails the same way). Not looked into what it could be though.
[15:59] <camako> kgunn, yeah routine visit
[16:01] <camako> alan_g, curious
[16:02] <alan_g> camako: yw
[17:44] <racarr_> Great to see the rapid pace on MPs
[17:44] <racarr_> even if a bunch of them were pretty old
[17:44] <racarr_> ROAR
[17:47] <racarr_> * Copyright © 2015 Canonical Ltd.
[17:47] <racarr_> Oh yeaaaah
[17:48]  * alan_g thinks that's taking "Merry New Year" a bit far
[17:50] <racarr_> hehe
[17:57] <kdub> anymore takers? (and thanks to racarr_ ) https://code.launchpad.net/~kdub/mir/power-control-to-display/+merge/245006
[17:59] <racarr_> :)
[17:59] <racarr_> I wonder how long I can keep doing every review every day for
[17:59] <racarr_> lol
[18:00] <racarr_> I mean I guess already today I refrained from further comment on 2


[18:46] <rick_h_> kind of cool, loaded the android N beta only my n6 and n9 and nice speed improvement
[18:46] <cmaloney> nice!
[18:47] <rick_h_> talk about easy to turn on, should have done this sooner
[18:51] <cmaloney> heh
[18:52] <cmaloney> Still on 6.0.1 on my phone
[23:14] <jrwren> having a 9yo RULES!  "Lilly, go return your mom's library book."  "OK."  she hops on her bike and returns book at library.
[23:19] <greg-g> jrwren: I. can't. wait.
[23:25] <cmaloney> nice!


[02:26] <duko> I'm unable to use internet on ubuntu touch when I leave my wifi access point
[02:27] <duko> how does someone enable internet through 4g or 2g?
[02:27] <duko> I have 4g active in the ubuntu touch settings but am unable to download anything
[02:47] <duko> i have 'data roaming' enabled as well
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> cant get updates anymore on devel is that normal?
[02:59] <afm> zyga_: seriously... do something about your internet connection
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> it shows all app updates, but cant get them to download
[03:03] <afm> any porting people around?
[05:08] <afm> late night porters around?
[05:50] <duko> i reinstalled ubuntu touch on my phone today
[05:51] <duko> and now my data roaming doesn't work
[05:51] <duko> I have data roaming enabled and 2g/3g selected in the cellular settings
[05:52] <duko> is there something else that I need to do?
[05:52] <duko> I do have the carrier selected and am able to make calls
[05:52] <duko> the data roaming worked on the previous installation
[06:29] <afm> zyga: you suck
[06:50] <afm> zyga: you suck
[08:40] <vitimiti> Hi
[13:45] <Z3> Hi, any news about the "final" release of Ubuntu Touch? (for Nexus 4)
[13:47] <Z3> I mean the estimated release date
[15:09] <keic> why ubuntu-touch don't continue to support galaxy nexus ?
[15:09] <keic> Nexus4 is decided to update to Lollipop.
[15:10] <keic> And every GN owner is searching to next platform to live their GN.
[15:11] <keic> I assume that GN is more important than Nexus4.
[15:25] <utack> setting up my nexus 4. the download server for the rom is really slow here, is that normal?
[18:14] <SouL_> #join #ubuntu-phone
[18:58] <vitimiti> Hi
[19:49] <md7sum> nik90, in regards to the "Clock App Reboot Release": I have now flashed to rtm and the alarm is still not working consistently
[19:50] <md_sanci> can somebody help me find a more detailed porting guide? i never developed android before only ubuntu linux for embedded solutions
[19:50] <nik90> md7sum: what do you mean? When doesn't it work?
[19:50] <nik90> md7sum: which device are you on?
[19:50] <md7sum> It works when the alarm is in about 5-10 minutes.
[19:50] <md7sum> mako
[19:51] <md7sum> It does not work if the alarm is in more than 1 hour into the future
[19:51] <md7sum> Maybe there are some old config files I have to delete?
[19:51] <nik90> md7sum: which image are you using?
[19:52] <md7sum> OS build number 5
[19:52] <nik90> md7sum: to be honest, I have no idea. I have been dogfooding my mako phone with rtm stable for weeks now and I wake up everyday to the alarm.
[19:52] <nik90> md7sum: when you create an alarm 1 hour into the future, does it show up in the indicator datetime?
[19:53] <md7sum> You mean the alarm icon in the top right?
[19:53] <nik90> yes
[19:53] <md7sum> This one showes up correctly
[19:54] <nik90> it shows the alarm time correctly? And still the alarm doesn't ring? that's really strange since that indicator is the one which actually rings the alarm.
[19:54] <nik90> and considering it is showing the alarm you saved correctly, it knows about it and should indeed the trigger the alarm correctly
[19:54] <md7sum> Volume settings do not influence the alarm?
[19:55] <nik90> md7sum: well you said if you create the alarm to ring in the next 5-10 minutes, that works...so volume shouldn't be an issue then
[19:55] <md7sum> jup
[19:56] <nik90> md7sum: do you dual boot with Android or something?
[19:57] <md7sum> nope
[19:57] <md7sum> just ubuntu
[19:57] <nik90> I think you should create a bug at https://launchpad.net/indicator-datetime with all necessary details since I am out of ideas and cannot fix something I cannot reproduce on my end
[19:58] <nik90> md7sum: do post screenshots with the datetime indicator and the clock app showing the alarm pls
[19:58] <nik90> in the bug report
[20:03] <md7sum> ok. I have the feeling that a factory reset would also solve the issue, but I don't feel like loosing the other files on the phone right now.
[20:04] <nik90> I can understand
[20:04] <nik90> md7sum: I am sure there must be a way of clearing the alarm backend data without losing out on other files
[20:05] <nik90> the developer of the project I linked should be able to tell you which file to remove
[20:05] <nik90> I sort of remember stopping a process and then removing the alarms file, but don't want to give wrong information
[20:42] <md7sum> nik90, if I can add more debug info to https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1383037 , let me know.


[10:12] <mispp> hey all, trying to find if 18.04 supports pxe boot over http, or in other words is there alternative to nfsboot in the for of http?
[10:15] <mispp> brb


[07:26] <tezza> anyone around from the dev team?
[11:53] <Beineri> ... the obviously complete missing of dealing with any release relevant bugs/user problems.
[11:54] <Beineri> How many days does the kdelibs-data update now don't install?
[11:54] <Beineri> Do you think it's funny that users exchange scripts on the lists how to work-around that? :-|


[23:30] <dsmythies> Any chance the Ubuntu mainline PPA kernel naming can be fixed? See also 2 weeks ago: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/06/29/%23ubuntu-kernel.html . For some reason the -rc designations have been dropped. They are important, so we can go backwards to help isolate issues.
[23:30] <dsmythies> reference: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.8-rc5/
[23:32] <dsmythies> On the .deb files


[18:52] <komputes> Hi everyone!
[18:54] <komputes> I am trying to find every wiki page which points to HardwareSupport, does anyone know how to get a list of pages that refer/link to HardwareSupport?
[19:15] <komputes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?action=info&hitcounts=1 seems to do that but I can't get it to load
[19:28] <jbicha> komputes: this might not be what you need but it's something to try: http://is.gd/WPdlhM
[19:29] <komputes> jbicha: no only from within the wiki, I searched linkto:HardwareSupport
[19:30] <jbicha> you could add site:wiki.ubuntu.com to the Google search
[19:39] <komputes> jbicha: brings up so many false positives: http://is.gd/5gZBRr
[19:42] <jbicha> hmm, sorry


[00:00] <sectech> I didn't even clue in when I saw it...
[00:00] <sectech> lol
[00:00] <sectech> should have known....
[00:00] <sectech> long day
[00:01] <sectech> ... you would think his karma level would be higher j/k
[00:07] <sectech> greg-g,  check your PM if you will...
[00:08] <greg-g> responded
[00:09] <greg-g> sectech: yeah, Mark doesn't actually use LP all that much, even though it is his pride and joy
[00:36] <sectech> Would bug #230876 be considered a wishlist?
[00:41] <james_w> sectech: possibly, if it's not data loss at least.
[00:42] <james_w> ah, it isn't, yeah, I think that's wishlist.
[00:43] <sectech> okay...  I can't mark it... are you able to?
[00:43] <james_w> yup
[00:43] <james_w> \o/
[00:43] <james_w> (I was only approved a few days ago)
[00:45] <sectech> awesome... congrats!
[00:46] <sectech> I'll probably apply later in the summer...
[00:46] <sectech> depending on how many bugs I handle... How long did you go before applying?
[00:47] <james_w> a few months, I haven't touched a huge number of bugs, but I'm a developer as well, so I tend to get distracted and try and fix them as well.
[00:48] <james_w> have you seen the process for applying?
[00:48] <sectech> Not yet...
[00:49] <sectech> I probably should go over and look at it though
[00:49] <james_w> there's a short questionnaire, where the answers can mostly be found by looking at the docs on the wiki, and then you have to provide examples of your work.
[00:49] <sectech> ahh okay... not too bad then
[00:50] <james_w> they ask for 5 bugs that you think that you triaged well, and the thoughts on what you were doing, and how you would set importance if you had the power.
[00:50] <james_w> that's what really makes the difference.
[00:50] <james_w> just keep working and asking questions and I'm sure you will get there.
[00:51] <james_w> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl if you want to read up on it.
[00:52] <sectech> I think I have the hang of it...  It's more a matter of experience I think at the moment
[00:55] <james_w> yeah, there are plenty of subtleties you can learn, and a lot if it is just experience, you are right. It seems like you are doing the right things though.
[00:55] <james_w> Do you focus on one area of packages, or just look at everything new, or do you have a different strategy?
[00:58] <sectech> I focus on anything that is recent and new.... Mostly crashes.... applications  that I am familiar with...
[00:59] <sectech> I need some comments on bug #230850... I was going to ask the reporter if he has tried this on other hardy systems and if he could attach his conf file to the bug...  What would you guys add?
[01:00] <sectech> I didn't add any comments yet
[01:00] <sectech> well other then re-assigning it
[01:03] <james_w> yeah, I'm not sure about that one.
[01:04] <sectech> Hmm... I'll just subscribe to it and see if another triager takes it then...
[01:04] <wolfger>  <joking> ask them if they still have this problem in the latest version of Intrepid </joking>
[01:05] <sectech> hahhhaha
[01:05] <james_w> "we only fix bugs if you updated in the last 20 minutes"
[01:05] <wolfger> seems like it some days
[01:05] <sectech> Is intrepid even installable yet?
[01:05] <james_w> sectech: I'll keep it open, and try to look at some point.
[01:05] <james_w> sectech: just about I think
[01:06] <wolfger> I think it is, if you change your sources.list
[01:06] <james_w> sectech: where does your family name come from, if you don't mind me asking?
[01:06] <wolfger> not that I'd want to do that
[01:06] <sectech> Quebec, Canada I believe...
[01:06] <sectech> I am supposed to be French
[01:06] <sectech> heh
[01:07] <hggdh> sectech: intrepid is *not* installable -- in fact, apart from some packages, there is not even a system to install ;-)
[01:07] <sectech> haha
[01:07] <james_w> sectech: "supposed to be"? :-)
[01:07] <hggdh> sectech: you _can_ play with it, though (I do), but be very careful... for example, I already had to recover from X barfing on startup
[01:08] <james_w> yeah, it won't be for the faint of heart for a few weeks at least.
[01:08] <sectech> james_w,  All I can say in French is "I can't speak French" and I haven't had contact with that side of the family in years
[01:08] <hggdh> sectech: you would be, I guess, quebecois
[01:08] <james_w> sectech: Je ne comprends pas
[01:09] <sectech> hggdh,  I think I'll leave intrepid alone for a while lol....
[01:09] <sectech> yeah... by blood maybe, I wouldn't go around advertising that though heh
[01:10] <sectech> Not a lot of people in Canada like Quebec... hell some Quebec people don't even like Quebec
[01:10] <hggdh> if you have another box (or virtualos, or vmware) you can play with, then yes, go for it. It will give you a lot of experience on recovering systems :-)
[01:11] <sectech> hggdh,  I already have grey hair and I'm not even 30 yet.... I don't want to push it
[01:11] <hggdh> LOL
[01:11] <hggdh> I almost do not have gray hair, and I am way past 30...
[01:11] <hggdh> on the other hand, I am quite baldish
[01:12] <sectech> I was gonna ask... Do you have any hair?
[01:12] <sectech> lol
[01:12] <sectech> hey... maybe I can blame the grey hair for the Quebec roots lol
[01:12] <hggdh> a lot of my hair fell to the chest and back :-(
[01:12] <sectech> Oh... relocated...
[01:12] <sectech> lol
[01:13] <sectech> Wonder how the conference is going overseas....
[01:14] <sectech> Oh jeeze... someone just posted a bug with a mile long subject line
[01:14] <hggdh> not only that, but with doubtful English as well
[01:15] <sectech> I am asking for more information
[01:17] <sectech> It's labelled firefox... yet he talks about booting issues
[01:17] <sectech> lol
[01:17] <sectech> and doesn't even mention firefox.
[01:17] <sectech> Oh I see what he did
[01:17] <sectech> He used firefox to report the bug with apport
[01:18] <sectech> I don't imagine this has anything to do with firefox, but we'll see
[01:18] <hggdh> no, certainly not firefox
[01:18] <sectech> I think it's safe to drop the assignment until more information is given
[01:19] <hggdh> he did it via ff, and did not click on "advanced options"
[01:20] <hggdh> we would need his boot logs just to understand what might be the issue
[01:20] <sectech> well...  lol... we want them to use apport... I guess we wern't overly specific on how we wanted them to use it
[01:20] <sectech> I started off with a dmesg request
[01:20] <sectech> I didn't want to start requesting a ton of log files before we were sure what it was about
[01:21] <hggdh> might help, yes. Also, you can ask him to provide more detailed explanation for whatever error is is able to collect data from.
[01:22] <hggdh> you might as well rephrase the bug summary for something smaller, like "many problems booting HH"
[01:23] <sectech> Okay
[01:23] <hggdh> sectech: is was usual for us to set the Importance to Medium by default, and then adjust when setting to triaged
[01:24] <hggdh> sectech: finally -- reject firefox
[01:24] <hggdh> please
[01:24] <hggdh> :-)
[01:24] <sectech> Refresh the bug
[01:25] <sectech> I'll make the subject a little more specific when I get more info
[01:25] <sectech> I took off the assignment so the firefox team doesn't see it
[01:26] <sectech> I can't set the importance yet...
[01:27] <hggdh> I still see firefox in -- can you reject it, or you want me to do so?
[01:27] <hggdh> on the affects
[01:27] <sectech> I just see Ubuntu... firefox is omitted.
[01:28] <sectech> ahh
[01:28] <sectech> hang on
[01:28] <sectech> No I don't have access to reject it
[01:29] <sectech> if you could that would be great
[01:30] <sectech> Wait... do I just set that part to invalid?
[01:30] <sectech> maybe I can do it
[01:31] <sectech> There... I set the firefox part to invalid
[01:59] <hggdh> thanks, sectech
[06:27] <miickee> I need help with raising my dvd read speed.
[06:27] <miickee> Using hdparm/sdparm
[07:29] <thekorn_> good morning
[11:13] <lucas> hi
[11:13] <lucas> how does bughelper work, internally? there's a SOAP or XMLRPC interface to launchpad bugs?
[11:15] <thekorn> hi lucas, no it's just scraping the html or text output of launchpad
[11:15] <lucas> ok, that's what I feared ;)
[11:15] <lucas> thank you
[11:16] <thekorn> there is currently no scripting interface to lp
[11:36] <bdmurray> lucas: there are plans for an interface though
[12:57] <Iulian> Hey
[13:07] <Iulian> G'morning pedro!
[13:08] <Iulian> Or should I say good afternoon :)
[13:10] <pedro_> hey Iulian, yeah afternoon :-)
[13:12] <Iulian> pedro_: How is in Prague?
[13:12] <Iulian> pedro_: I have never been there. I wanted to come but I can't because of school. :\
[13:23] <pedro_> Iulian: everything really good so far
[13:24] <pedro_> Iulian: sigh... hey but next time :-)
[13:24] <Iulian> pedro_: Yeah, maybe next time.
[14:02] <rbs-tito> Should a bug in coreutils be upstream in Debian or GNU?
[14:03] <emgent> morning
[14:04] <rbs-tito> morning
[14:04] <rbs-tito> Well, afternoon here
[14:07] <emgent> heheh true
[14:08] <rbs-tito> You wouldn't happen to know much about coreutils?
[14:08] <rbs-tito> Where is its upstream :s ?
[14:27] <rbs-tito> bug 231058
[14:34] <hggd1> rbs-tito: coreutils is a GNU package
[14:34] <hggd1> http://directory.fsf.org/project/coreutils/
[14:35] <rbs-tito> hggd1: Do GNU actually have a bugtracker?
[14:37] <hggdh> rbs-tito: brb
[14:37] <rbs-tito> ok
[14:41] <rbs-tito> I sent the email to the GNU bugs mailing list for coreutils
[14:43] <rbs-tito> and added the email address to launchpad
[14:57] <bddebian> Boo
[14:59] <hggdh> rbs-tito: are you willing to keep working on core-utils?
[14:59] <hggdh> at least for a while?
[14:59] <rbs-tito> hggdh: Keep working on?
[14:59] <hggdh> there are other NEW bugs for it ... ;-)
[15:00] <rbs-tito> hggdh: Sure - I'll take a look
[15:00] <hggdh> rbs-tito: thanks. We do appreciate the help
[15:00] <rbs-tito> hggdh: Before I do though, is it proper to just email bug reports to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and list the email address as an upstream contact on launchpad?
[15:01] <hggdh> rbs-tito: not sure. I am trying to find out
[15:02] <hggdh> rbs-tito: seems we open on debian
[15:02] <hggdh> seel bug 192239
[15:03] <hggdh> s/seel/see/
[15:04] <hggdh> james_w: ping
[15:04] <rbs-tito> hggdh: That is marked as wont fix on Debbugs
[15:04] <james_w> hggdh: hi
[15:05] <hggdh> james_w: you seem to have worked on bug 192239
[15:05] <james_w> hggdh: yeah, I had a look at it
[15:05] <hggdh> is Debian where we open upstream for core-utils?
[15:06] <james_w> there is an actual upstream, but the Debian maintainer is very knowledgeable and helpful, so you can go there as well.
[15:16] <hggdh> james_w: where is upstream for it?
[15:16] <hggdh> just for completeness. I have no problems on using debian
[15:17] <james_w> http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/
[15:17] <hggdh> james_w: thanks
[15:18] <hggdh> rbs-tito: there you go. You can use either the email, or open/check on https://bugs.debian.org
[15:19] <hggdh> james_w: checking on debian, or looking up the maillist archives might not be a bad idea at all -- these issues may have been already reported there
[15:19] <hggdh> james_w: sorry, not for you ^^
[15:19] <rbs-tito> Thanks
[15:19] <hggdh> rbs-tito: ^^ it was for you ^^ :-)
[15:20] <james_w> hggdh: it's a good thing to be reminded of any way :-)
[15:20] <hggdh> :-)
[15:57] <sectech> Can someone review bug #231098 for "wishlist" consideration...
[15:58] <sectech> I'll add a note stating that the issue will be considered in future releases once I see that the status has been changed
[15:58] <james_w> sectech: done, thanks.
[15:58] <sectech> james_w,  Thank you
[15:58] <james_w> It might be a won't fix, as the aim will be to have non-restricted java working well.
[16:00] <sectech> agreed....   I would rather see a non-restricted java included then something restricted....
[16:01] <sectech> I did change the status to confirmed though as "new" really isn't appropriate....
[16:05] <hggdh> james_w: do you know if the meeting of bugsquad and dev have happened already? (the one that ((will/would discuss) | has discussed) workflow bugs)
[16:05] <hggdh> ugh. s/have/has/
[16:06] <james_w> hggdh: it will be next week at UDS
[16:07] <hggdh> ah, OK. I though UDS was going on already
[16:07] <james_w> That's Fosscamp
[16:07] <Pici> 19th - 23rd is UDS
[16:07] <hggdh> details, details, details ;-)
[16:07] <james_w> I'll try and let people here who can't make it make it know so that they can listen in.
[16:07] <hggdh> thanks. I appreciate it
[16:09] <thekorn> hi all
[16:09] <james_w> hi thekorn
[16:09] <thekorn> hello james_w
[16:11] <pochu> hey hey
[16:13] <thekorn> hola pochu
[16:14] <pochu> guten tag thekorn :)
[16:15] <Iulian> Hey thekorn
[16:15] <Iulian> and james_w, pochu. :)
[16:15] <pochu> hi Iulian
[16:17] <thekorn> Hi Iulian
[17:27] <Iulian> slomo: Hello. I have built a package called giver. I think you heard about it. It has the same upstream as tasque. The problem is that I get a strange error when I run it: 'exec: 9: -a: not found'. Do you have any ideas what could be wrong?
[17:31] <Iulian> slomo: When I run 'exec mono "Giver"' I get 'Cannot open assembly Giver.'
[17:31] <Iulian> Does anyone else know?
[17:42] <marnanel> Iulian: Is "Giver" the Mono program, or a shell script, do you know?
[17:43] <marnanel> Iulian: also, do you know what shell you are running? (ls -l /bin/sh will tell you)
[17:45] <Iulian> marnanel: It's not a shell script. It's a desktop application - http://code.google.com/p/giver/
[17:45] <Iulian> marnanel: Yes, dash shell.
[17:48] <marnanel> Iulian: AFAICS -a (test if file exists) is not built into dash
[17:49] <marnanel> If whatever script is being run uses bash features but invokes /bin/sh, that's a bug.
[17:49] <Iulian> marnanel: I just received an email from someone that has the same problem. He told me that he asked the devs and they didn't know either.
[17:50] <marnanel> Iulian: Try "if [ -a / ]; then echo foo; fi" under bash and dash and you'll see: dash doesn't like it at all
[17:50] <marnanel> Iulian: Actually
[17:50] <marnanel> Iulian: More usefully, run bash, and then see whether you can launch giver
[17:50] <marnanel> If you can, then it depends on bash features but claims to be calling /bin/sh, which is evil-bad-and-wrong
[17:53] <Iulian> marnanel: Running bash giver it works.
[17:56] <marnanel> Iulian: Then that is the bug that needs to be reported upstream.
[17:56] <marnanel> The shell script "giver" uses bash-specific features but the first line is presumably #!/bin/sh
[18:01] <Iulian> marnanel: Yea, thanks. Will have a look at it again soon.
[18:20] <Iulian> marnanel: Do you know how to fix it? So I don't have to write bash giver everytime I run it.
[18:24] <pochu> Iulian: you can change "#!/bin/sh" to "#!/bin/bash" in the first line of the script
[18:28] <marnanel> pochu, the hot-swappable marnanel for giving excellent answers when marnanel is afk
[18:28] <marnanel> er, not that my answers are always better than pochu's or anything
[18:34] <pochu> hey marnanel :-)
[18:34] <pochu> well, I bet they usually are ;)
[18:39] <Iulian> I don't know really where to change that line. Giver is a file sharing desktop app. You can share files with people on your network.
[18:39] <Iulian> So I think this is a packaging issue.
[18:39] <\sh> Iulian: bug no?
[18:41] <Iulian> \sh: I didn't submit any bug. I just have the 'needs-packaging' bug opened.
[18:42] <\sh> ah
[18:42] <Iulian> So there is any place where to change this without modifying the original source?
[18:43] <Iulian> Oups, I should ask this in -motu channel, right?
[18:43] <\sh> Iulian: what is the problem in general?
[18:43] <\sh> yes
[18:49] <marnanel> Iulian: well, for now you can change it... should I go around telling people this?... by typing sudo nano $(which giver), but yes, definitely something to talk to the packagers about.
[18:50] <marnanel> fine people they are.
[19:42]  * marnanel is laughing out loud.  My diocesan mailing list just forwarded a request that the Lambeth Conference in 2009 (the once-a-decade conference of all Anglican/Episcopalian bishops) will have a theme of "ubuntu", and asks whether anyone can help design a logo
[19:44] <marnanel> (actually the general convention, sorry)
[19:59] <lifeless> marnanel: offer them a predone logo :P
[19:59]  * marnanel grins
[19:59]  * marnanel posted the link to planet gnome
[20:04] <secretlondon> :)
[20:20] <copyofjohan> hi, video playback performance is very poor when using 3d-effects. Is that a known bug?
[20:22] <copyofjohan> I cant find a bug-report but I think I've heard of that
[21:53] <mohbana> hi guys is there a bug with firefox freezing with i right click someone on the page?
[22:02] <narcan> mohbana: witch version?
[22:02] <mohbana> 3b5
[22:02] <narcan> mohbana
[22:02] <narcan> ok
[22:02] <narcan> i try that
[22:03] <narcan> any web page?
[22:03] <secretlondon> well I right click all the time and no problems
[22:04] <narcan> no issue here
[22:04] <narcan> also
[22:04] <mohbana> i wasn't happening before
[22:04] <narcan> mohbana: maybe a java page?
[22:04] <secretlondon> there are general issues with flash
[22:05] <narcan> maybe a javascript who waiting a right click
[22:05] <secretlondon> flash kills my firefox on a regaulr basis - I use flashblock now
[22:05] <MilkmanDan> Me too.
[22:07] <narcan> good night all
[23:28] <sectech> Can someone give me a hand finishing the triage on bug #231102...  I don't know what else to ask for
[23:49] <jibel> Hi sectech
[23:50] <jibel> regarding bug 231102 he already provided enough information
[23:51] <jibel> for, I don't know why yet, there is an error "r8169: probe of 0000:02:00.0 failed with error -22" in kern.log after resuming from suspend
[23:53] <sectech> Okay, I'll mark it as confirmed.... I must have missed that line... I kinda thought there was enough


[00:21] <hot_wheelz> hi guys
[00:22] <hot_wheelz> anyone know why it's taken so long to fix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/644198
[00:23] <hot_wheelz> same goes for previous versions that's why I'm pointing it out
[01:35] <elky> hot_wheelz, have you considered asking the people who made the decisions?
[01:55] <hot_wheelz> elky, I would if I new who :-)
[01:56] <elky> the devel-discuss list I'd assume
[01:57] <elky> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-devel-discuss
[02:00] <hot_wheelz> elky, Thanks mate
[02:06] <hot_wheelz> elky,  There is a dev irc channel right is that motu?
[02:08] <elky> no, it's -devel. they prefer discussions about bugs on the mailing list though as i understand it. that way the right people will see it eventually
[02:09] <hot_wheelz> elky, Ok no problem
[10:51] <sagaci> that time of the month when head_victim frantically rounds up whoever he can for A/O membership meeting
[10:52] <head_victim> sagaci: it used to be elky doing it alone, now at least we have each other chasing us all
[10:53] <sagaci> the old palm it off to someone else trick
[10:54]  * benonsoftware thinks for someone he has a stack of things to do at the same time/date every month
[10:54] <sagaci> do you really have to wait for months on end to remove an applicant from the list?
[10:55] <sagaci> if the applicant can't make the meeting I don't know why their name should stay on the wiki page, unless they put in some kind of apology
[11:00] <benonsoftware> Sorry for not doing the team reports yesterday/today, I've came down with a illness, I should be able to do them tomorrow
[11:01] <head_victim> No worries
[11:01] <benonsoftware> Thanks head_victim
[11:02] <sagaci> I started the March one
[11:03] <sagaci> err, maybe I didn't hit save
[11:03]  * benonsoftware cannot see it from his end
[11:04] <sagaci> yep, must've hit close
[11:07] <benonsoftware> Well I should go to bed for me to get better, see everyone later
[11:07] <sagaci> bye
[11:08] <sagaci> saved
[11:11] <jaddi27> sagaci, what meeting is that?
[11:11] <sagaci> Asia Oceania membership
[11:12] <jaddi27> Right. I should put my name down sometime, I guess
[11:13] <jaddi27> head_victim, sagaci: How much should I have done to be eligible?
[11:13] <head_victim> jaddi27: I believe you're ready now
[11:13] <sagaci> well in another month's time :P
[11:14] <sagaci> assuing quorum
[11:14] <sagaci> assuming*
[11:14] <jaddi27> Ok, I didn't realise that I would have done enough
[11:14] <jaddi27> and yes, I see the meeting time on the page - a bit late for that
[11:15] <sagaci> well I'd say you've done enough - translation and the various loco-related thingamajigs you've done
[11:16] <jaddi27> Shouldn't the meeting have been an hour ago?
[11:16] <sagaci> it started an hour and 15 minutes ago
[11:17] <sagaci> and finished around half an hour ag
[11:17] <sagaci> o
[11:17] <jaddi27> Ok. I was just confused by your message about rounding up people
[11:20] <sagaci> yeah, a bit late
[12:21] <sagaci> head_victim: jaddi27 ping ping ping
[12:22] <jaddi27> sagaci, Hello
[12:22] <head_victim> Not really here, if you leave a msg I'll respond eventually
[12:22] <sagaci> I was just sifting through my email casually and I happened to have missed an email that is replying that I've been accepted for sponsorship to go to UDS Q
[12:23] <sagaci> heart rate - 200
[12:23] <jaddi27> Wow - that is certainly an email that you would not want to miss
[12:23] <sagaci> sent 5 days ago
[12:23] <sagaci> I nearly mass deleted it
[12:24] <jaddi27> Well I hope you represent us well - and have a good time
[12:26] <jaddi27> They sound like an interesting event to attend
[12:33] <sagaci> I don't know how I'll be able to get all the docs done soon enough though
 Awesome work!
 benonsoftware also got accepted but doesn't have someone to chaperon.
[12:58] <head_victim> * Disconnected (Network is unreachable).
[12:58] <head_victim> sagaci: ^
[12:59] <sagaci> ah ok
[12:59] <sagaci> well I'm going to go
[12:59] <sagaci> I just picked up the email then, was about to delete it


[12:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:44] <santa_> good morning everybody
[12:45] <santa_> RikMills: I'm not sure if I will be available today for our talk/mini-meeting
[12:46] <santa_> I ill ty to ping you later or tomorrow, but we will see
[12:46] <santa_> * I will
[12:47] <RikMills> santa_: that is fine. I'm going to set a few things building today, but may not be about much
[12:47] <BluesKaj> serious flaw in the updates/upgrades this morning , totally borked my Focal install ...login wasn'r even redognizing me
[12:48] <BluesKaj> recognizing even
[12:48] <santa_> what you mean with "recognizing"
[12:48] <BluesKaj> so be warned
[12:48] <santa_> you type the correct password and you can't log in?
[12:48] <santa_> something else?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> my login username was incorrect
[12:49] <santa_> INcorrect?
[12:49] <RikMills> LP: #1866844
[12:49] <RikMills> that glibc breakage is doing that to some peoples login
[12:49] <BluesKaj> santa_:  yes, incorrect
[12:50] <santa_> allright, thank you for sharing
[12:51] <RikMills> I pinged doko and vorlon, but I guess one is asleep and the other busy
[12:51] <santa_> by the way, I know this is offtopic here, but: yesterday the Spanish government announced the "state of alarm"
[12:53] <santa_> today everything is closed except supermarkets, pharmacies and tobacco stores
[12:53] <santa_> just from one day to another
[12:53] <santa_> so be careful because that could happen in your countries too, if it's not already happening
[12:54] <santa_> in fact I'm settling some things here @ my house to survive gracefully the "apocalypse" ;)
[12:55] <RikMills> I have been doing things bit by bit  the last month to prepare. it was fairly inevitable it would all go to sh** at some point
 @RikMills as I suspected I have been very busy today. We will see if I have time tomorrow
 OK
[22:45] <valorie> santa_: I'm living near the epicenter of the infection in the US
[22:45] <valorie> although it's spreading around the country now
[22:46]  * valorie lives an hour from Kirkland
 Take care valorie
[22:48] <valorie> oh, I am
[22:48] <valorie> everything this month is cancelled
 Today my city was almost a ghost city XD
[22:51] <valorie> yep, Seattle too
[22:51] <valorie> schools, libraries, sports, everything stopped
 We have the virus. next it will be zombies....
[23:03] <valorie> we're all gonna die
[23:03] <valorie> just a question of when
[23:03] <valorie> :-)
[23:03] <valorie> so stay safe; have fun
 Yep