[06:00] <magespawn> good morning
[06:01] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:12] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:23] <Squirm> Morning
[06:25] <magespawn> hi thatgraemeguy pieter2627 Squirm
[06:29] <thatgraemeguy> g'day
[06:59] <inetpro> sanibonani
[07:21] <magespawn> hey inetpro
[08:14] <mazal> Mornings
[10:43] <pieter2627> \away
[11:00] <inetpro> pieter2627: hehe, you're still here :-)
[11:36] <pieter2627> inetpro: still confuse the slashes at time
[11:37]  * pieter2627 wonders why not just one existed
[11:44] <mazal> Couldn't agree more
[11:51] <thatgraemeguy> the \ was introduced so that the ALGOL boolean operators ∧ (AND) and ∨ (OR) could be composed in ASCII as "/\" and "\/" respectively.
[11:52] <thatgraemeguy> interesting
[11:55] <theblazehen> nice
[12:46] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[12:55] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[13:08] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[14:08] <magespawn> home time, bye
[18:49] <superfly> ohi
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos-: rain!!!!
[18:53] <inetpro> good evening everybody
[18:53] <inetpro> oh and hi superfly
[18:55] <superfly> hi
[18:55]  * superfly is off to Mozambique on Sunday morning
[18:55] <inetpro> superfly: wow! That's quite a long trip for you, you driving?
[18:55] <superfly> negative, flying
[18:56] <inetpro> with kids and all?
[18:59] <Kilos-> oh my inetpro you lucky
[18:59] <Kilos-> hope you get lots
[19:00] <Kilos-> hi superfly
[19:00] <superfly> inetpro: negative. business flight.
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos-: eish, I guess I need to slow down and stop getting excited when the first few drops start falling
[19:01] <Kilos-> oh my
[19:01] <inetpro> but I was seriously surprised now to hear it falling outside
[19:01] <inetpro> stopped again now, let's hope it continues soon
[19:01] <Kilos-> yeah its become an unfamiliar sound hey
[19:02] <inetpro> started without any thunder in the background
[19:02] <Kilos-> ai!
[19:02] <Kilos-> weve had nothing
[19:03] <Kilos-> just heat
[19:05] <inetpro> starting to get windy now, hope it doesn't blow everything away again
[19:08] <Kilos-> ai!
[19:09] <inetpro> tough season
[19:14] <Kilos-> yip
[19:14] <Kilos-> night all. sleep tight
[19:25] <inetpro> superfly: nice to see you getting around, enjoy it!
[19:25] <superfly> heh.


[00:07]  * Eickmeyer[m] goes and takes over the kernel team
[00:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> (that wouldn't go over well)
[00:13] <wonko> heh
[00:18] <wonko> 5.10 will be in 21.04, right?
[00:20] <Eickmeyer> 5.10 of what?
[00:20] <Eickmeyer> Oh, 5.10 kernel! Right now, I'm not sure.
[00:21]  * Eickmeyer hasn't been running it and really should
[00:46] <wonko> Rumors are it's going to have 5.10 but those are old. 🤣
[03:05] <OvenWerks> wonko: "it depends"  ;)
[13:13] <wonko> The perpetual answer. :)
[23:55] <OvenWerks> wonko: I would suggest that the next kernel will be at least 5.10.
[23:55] <wonko> That's what I'm expecting. Hopefully I'm right. :)
[23:55] <OvenWerks> wonko: speaking of kernels: I am running 5.10.0-11.3-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT
[23:56] <wonko> I keep looking at liquorix and xanmod
[23:56] <wonko> I can never figure out if they are worth messing with
[23:57] <OvenWerks> which seems to work well. I am running my af12 at 16/2 and the dsp is about half what it was on 5.4
[23:58] <wonko> Hmm, I might have to give that a try
[23:58] <wonko> because I'm still having trouble (see #ubuntustudio for ramblings)
[23:58] <OvenWerks>  I do not know if the stability is a as good though as I have seen some xruns when running ardour
[23:59] <wonko> In the meantime I have also disabled the onboard audio in the bios (wasn't using it anyway)
[23:59] <OvenWerks> The stock 5.8 kernel in 20.10 does not load alsa firework module without errors
[23:59] <wonko> but that didn't seem to make much of a difference in behavior
[23:59] <wonko> Yeah, I ran into that


[00:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4661 Pending binary packages
[00:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4661 Generating diffs
[00:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4661 Successfully built
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ginggs, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4660 Publishing packages
[12:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ginggs, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4660 Proposed pocket
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4662 Cancelling build
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4648 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (focal/livecd-rootfs). Ready to build (focal/devscripts)
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4662 Cancelled build (impish/gcc-11). Failed to build (impish/binutils)
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4661 Publishing packages
[18:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4661 UNAPPROVED queue
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4662 Cancelled build (impish/gcc-11). Diff missing (impish/binutils)


[04:44] <pitti> Good morning
[04:45] <pitti> slangasek: udev sru> wiki page says "one week without a regression report" (of which we didn't get any, I'm subscribed to udev bugs)
[04:45] <pitti> slangasek: lp retracers> mostly me; unfortunately the failure cron mail sometimes doesn't get set, so I don't notice errors often
[04:46] <pitti> slangasek: restarting i386 one, it indeed was crashed
[04:46] <pitti> gdb segfaulted, yay
[04:48] <pitti> slangasek: we don't stop them on transient LP bugs any more, I fixed that ages ago
[04:48] <pitti> but for anything unexpected we do, but I need to get told about them
[04:48] <pitti> slangasek: so the uninvestigated issue is "sometimes cron mail doesn't get sent" :/
[05:08] <robert_ancell> pitti, I think I remember you complaining about the autotools tests no longer producing output on server builds - did you ever come up with a clever solution for that?
[05:09] <robert_ancell> The dreaded see tests/test-suite.log which you can't see
[05:11] <pitti> robert_ancell: for umockdev I just switched back to the serial test runner
[05:11] <robert_ancell> pitti, what is the incantation for that?
[05:11] <pitti> robert_ancell: for debian/rules you might use something like "dh_auto_test || { cat testsuite.log; exit 1 }
[05:11] <pitti> but that's unwieldy for upstream
[05:12] <robert_ancell> pitti, ah, I was trying to do that but my shell-fu failed me
[05:12] <pitti> robert_ancell: add "serial-tests" to AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
[05:12] <pitti> robert_ancell: but hang on, I actually removed that again, as with that you can't build on automake 1.11 and older any more
[05:13] <pitti> robert_ancell: so now I don't use the AM test runner at all, and do it by hand: https://github.com/martinpitt/umockdev/commit/25c46869f18
[05:18] <cjwatson> I think the parallel runner is enough of a good thing that it's worth small workarounds such as the above || { ... } hack to continue being able to use it.
[05:18] <pitti> I didn't find an equivalent for that for upstream Makefile.am, though
[05:18] <robert_ancell> cjwatson, yeah, I like it too :)
[05:19] <cjwatson> pitti: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2013-06/msg00051.html ?
[05:20] <cjwatson> Though I guess that requires that target to be invoked explicitly
[05:21] <pitti> the "display-testsuite-logs" looks like a manual one
[05:21] <pitti> and "require am >= 1.12" is not an option
[05:21] <pitti> as I want this to work in daily PPA builds
[05:21] <pitti> and also don't fend off developers on stable releases
[05:28] <cjwatson> pitti: Actually, doesn't VERBOSE = yes work for you?  AFAICT it only doesn't work for James' quite specialised requirement that he wants to show the test log even for passed tests
[05:29] <pitti> cjwatson: I'll try that (need to run off for a bit)
[05:33] <TheMuso`> c
[06:00] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1203211 => Somebody can check this out ? :)
[06:37] <pitti> cjwatson: adding "VERBOSE = yes" to Makefile.am has no visible effect here
[06:38] <pitti> "make check VERBOSE=yes" seems to  help, though
[06:39] <pitti> ah, "export VERBOSE = yes" helps
[06:41] <cjwatson> Right, it's used as a shell variable not a make variable
[06:56] <pitti> wgrant_: hm, still nothing on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+language-packs ?
[08:15] <Laney> @pilot in
[08:41] <jamespage> doko, available for a chat re go policies?
[08:45] <doko> jamespage, in 15min, need a coffee ....
[10:21] <ejat> friends-app : Depends: qtdeclarative5-hud1.0 but it is not installable
[10:21] <ejat> ?
[10:31] <infinity> ejat: Are you running -proposed?  friends-app installs fine here on saucy without proposed.
[10:31] <infinity> ejat: If you're using proposed, don't. :P
[11:51] <doko> mlankhorst, ping
[11:54] <doko> tjaalton, ping
[11:59] <mlankhorst> pong
[11:59] <mlankhorst> what's up
[12:07] <doko> mlankhorst, please see message
[12:14] <Laney> @pilot out
[13:15] <seb128> apw, hey, thanks for the lightdm patch ... it looks good to me, you should perhaps upload, robert_ancell is not going to be online before another half a day and it seems quite some users are running into the bug
[13:15] <seb128> apw, can you upload the fix and do a merge request for it on trunk? or do you prefer if I do that?
[13:18] <apw> seb128, i can do that no problem, if you know where the master one is, it doesn't seem to have a link in the pakcaging
[13:20] <seb128> apw, just propose the fix for upstream code (e.g lp:lightdm), there is no packaging vcs afaik
[13:20] <apw> seb128, ahh great will do so indeed
[13:20] <seb128> apw, thanks
[13:34] <barry> uh oh.  looks like the greeter is feeling unhappy this morning.  super tiny font syndrome
[13:36] <jodh> pitti: got a fix for the zero-length core files - bug 1203744
[13:37] <apw> seb128, merge proposed:https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/lightdm/lp1203711-fix-uninitialised-glist/+merge/176193
[13:38] <apw> seb128, and i am just re-testng for upload
[13:38] <seb128> apw, excellent, thanks!
[13:38] <pitti> jodh: argh, brown paperbag one.. thanks!
[13:39] <pitti> jodh: saucy has 2.11-0ubuntu1, which is what is in bzr (that even has a staged commit which isn't uploaded)
[13:39] <pitti> jodh: it's in Vcs-Bzr:, not the UDD branch
[13:40] <jodh> pitti: ok, thanks.
[13:52] <zul> mterry:  ping any update on python-heatlclient?
[13:52] <mterry> zul, not yet.  I'll assign or review today
[14:04] <rbasak> mdeslaur: OK for me to touch apache2? I want to merge 2.4.6-1 to fix bug 1202653.
[14:05] <mdeslaur> rbasak: sure, thanks!
[14:05] <rbasak> Great, thanks.
[14:10] <xnox> rbasak: that's my bug! \o/
[14:10] <xnox> rbasak: thanks!
[14:18] <doko> I HATE ARCH INDEP all PACKAGES!
[14:18] <doko> -dev packages even
[14:19] <davmor2> doko: use ubuntu instead of arch /me runs for the bunker............ :D
[14:25] <pitti> rbasak, jibel, apw: hm, in today's saucy /dev/kvm doesn't exist any more; dmesg says "kvm_intel: Unknown parameter `nested'"; known?
[14:26] <pitti> ah, /etc/modprobe.d/qemu-system-x86.conf:options kvm_intel nested=1
[14:26] <pitti> modinfo kvm_intel still shows it, though
[14:38] <apw> pitti, yes a known issue, will be fixed in the next upload
[14:38] <pitti> apw: thanks
[14:38] <apw> pitti, parameter handling has gone to pot
[14:40] <jodh> pitti: bug 1203211.
[14:40] <rbasak> When doing a merge, is it normal to include changelog entries for bugs fixed by virtue of them being fixed in Debian? Or should I just make sure to include those bug numbers in my changes file?
[14:43] <xnox> rbasak: if debian used "LP: #NNNNNNN" you are fine (in addition to Closes: #), otherwise in your merge changelog you'd need to include "LP: #######", or otherwise the bug will stay open, and you'd have to manually close it.
[14:44] <cjwatson> rbasak: I occasionally stick a parenthesised comment in about such-and-such a Debian version fixing such-and-such an LP bug
[14:44] <cjwatson> But sometimes it reads oddly and I just close manually
[14:44] <xnox> rbasak: look at the .changes file and make sure there is LP-* bugs closing stanza in there with things you want to close.
[14:44] <xnox> may require -v option, when building the source package.
[14:44] <rbasak> OK, got it, thanks. In this case Debian used LP: #XXX so I should be fine. I'll make sure to check the changes file.
[14:58] <doko> roaksoax, ping
[15:06] <slangasek> pitti: hmm, would you like to add me to the cron mail, so I could help track it down?
[15:06] <pitti> slangasek: that's for the apport retracers?
[15:07] <slangasek> pitti: yeah
[15:07] <pitti> seb128: did you get apport failure cron mail recently? I didn't
[15:07] <pitti> slangasek: done; but I have a feeling that the problem is on the sending side
[15:08] <slangasek> pitti: sure, I expect so too - but at least this doubles the odds of someone noticing that the mails haven't been sent :)
[15:09] <pitti> indeed
[15:11] <seb128> pitti, I got an email on friday from the dup checker, that's all recently
[15:12] <pitti> seb128: yes, I got that one, too
[15:12] <pitti> but never one from the i386 crash
[16:00] <doko> seb128, pitti: is glib2.0 buildable without python-gi and python-dbus?
[16:53] <cjwatson> bdmurray: copy-set-phase now available
[16:57] <cjwatson> bdmurray: So if we deploy set-pup now, is the cron job already running somewhere sensible and will it adjust the phases up over time?
[17:45] <SpamapS> nobody    2444  0.0  0.0  28900  1528 ?        S    Jul21   0:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foreground --no-hosts --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.pid --listen-address=<IP_ADDRESS> --conf-file=/var/run/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.conf --cache-size=0 --proxy-dnssec --enable-dbus=org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq --conf-dir=/etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
[17:45] <SpamapS> what is the point of having a local dnsmasq..
[17:45] <SpamapS> if --cache-size=0 ?!
[18:13] <jbicha> zul: there's a typo with horizon, it depends on python-neturonclient
[18:13] <zul> jbicha: ?
[18:14] <jbicha> shouldn't it be neutron?
[18:14] <zul> jbicha:  crap thanks for spotting it
[18:15] <zul> jbicha:  ill fix that up
[18:18] <jbicha> neturon does sound kinda cool though
[19:48] <pitti> doko: glib2.0 python-gi and python-dbus sound like test dependencies; you certainly don't need them for build
[19:49] <xnox> pitti: yeah, i thought so to. trying to use jhbuild to cross-bootstrap gnome =)
[20:02] <jdstrand> @pilot in
[20:30] <doko> xnox, pitti: thanks, in that case I won't need the jhbuild
[20:31] <xnox> doko: yeah, but autoconf cache is incomplete for arm64 =)
[20:31] <doko> xnox, ?
[20:32] <xnox> well, not enough to cross-compile glib. going through it now.... unless the cache is not loaded, one sec.
[20:32] <doko> ahh
[20:40] <xnox> compiling. and it needs to be taught about multiarch include dirs *sigh*
[20:45] <roaksoax> mterry: so I've been looking into the test of libqb and haven't been able to find a way to fix them. So I'll disable the failing ones for now, since it is blocking other packages that I need to upload to have a functional cluster stack in saucy
[20:46] <mterry> roaksoax, OK, but can you file a bug to fix the rest of them and assign to someone (maybe you) for tracking purposes?  It would be nice to see those addressed, in case they are real problems
[20:46] <roaksoax> mterry: I talked to the debian maintainer too and he's also gonna look into that.
[20:47] <roaksoax> and will do
[20:47] <roaksoax> :)
[21:09] <roaksoax> mterry: done! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqb/0.14.4-1ubuntu1 should be published soon
[21:09] <mterry> roaksoax, don't know what's wrong with my IRC, but I'm all over the place  :(
[21:11] <roaksoax> mterry: :(
[21:17] <roaksoax> mterry: thanks! :)
[21:20] <xnox> too hot, must shut down my pc
[21:25] <ari-tczew> xnox: or buy a cooling mat
[21:25] <mterry> roaksoax, thank you!
[21:26]  * ScottK has set his laptop on a bag of ice before.
[21:26] <ScottK> Need to take it off before condensation gets too bad though.
[21:26] <dobey> anyone know why this command line would result in a file that is statically linked, rather than a dynamic lib? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5901979/
[21:31] <sarnold> dobey: wild-guess territory, perhaps one of the .o files was compiled without -fPIC? does 'file' on all the .o files look sensible?
[21:32] <dobey> sarnold: yeah, all ELF LSB relocatable SYSV not stripped
[21:32] <slangasek> dobey: "statically linked" - defined how?  what does file say on the resulting object?
[21:33] <dobey> slangasek: ldd says "statically linked", file says "dynamically linked"
[21:33] <dobey> so uh, wtf :)
[21:33] <slangasek> what does objdump -p $file | grep NEEDED' say?
[21:34] <dobey> slangasek: it's empty
[21:34] <dobey> (the library has no symbols at the moment, but this problem only happens on saucy, not on raring)
[21:34] <slangasek> there's no way that command could result in a statically linked object with no missing refs, because you're passing the path to the .so's specifically - the linker isn't going to randomly substitute the .a's
[21:34] <slangasek> oh
[21:35] <slangasek> "the library has no symbols at the moment" is exactly your problem.
[21:35] <slangasek> the linker has outsmarted you
[21:35] <dobey> but why is it only an issue on saucy?
[21:35] <dobey> ld is trying to be smart?
[21:35] <slangasek> I thought this default was changed pre-saucy, but maybe not
[21:36] <slangasek> but in any case, the default behavior is -Wl,--as-needed
[21:36] <dobey> on raring ld reports the libc and ld deps
[21:36] <dobey> err, ldd reports
[21:36] <slangasek> so if you ask to link to a library that you don't actually need, ld discards this reference
[21:37] <slangasek> you can force the linkage with -Wl,--no-as-needed for testing
[21:37] <dobey> that's fine, but ldd reporting "statically linked" is obviously wrong
[21:37] <slangasek> not really
[21:37] <slangasek> it has no dynamic library dependencies
[21:37] <slangasek> so it's statically linked
[21:38] <slangasek> the definition of a dynamically linked library is one that has external runtime dependencies.  This library has none, so it's a statically linked library (by virtue of the fact that it's completely empty).
[21:39] <dobey> ls
[21:40] <dobey> so i should just ignore lintian complaining about the shlibs for now?
[21:41] <slangasek> whether the library is statically linked is entirely unrelated to whether it's *consumable* as ashared library
[21:42] <slangasek> the shlibs are for the latter, and the lintian error ought to be fixed
[22:01] <robert_ancell> mterry, how did you mark the mir MIR "no longer affects unity-system-compositor"?
[22:11] <dobey> slangasek: thanks. would you mind taking a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1199017 ? finally got the issues fixed with symbols exporting and that as-needed problem. just decided to drop the empty lib from the packaging for now.


[00:22] <nshire> my system is currently in an unbootable state with all current grub options-- 4.15.0-88 or 4.15.0-91 and their respective recovery modes
[00:23] <nshire> just hangs on "loading inital ramdisk"
[00:24] <nshire> I tried update-initramfs but it didn't seem to do anything
[00:25] <sarnold> do you need to install the linux-modules-extra* package that corresponds with your kernel versions?
[00:25] <nshire> I created new install media and it boots up fine off the 5.3.0-28 kernel on the usb drive
[00:25] <nshire> sarnold, I have no idea.
[00:26] <nshire> all I did was apt update && upgrade and it broke everything
[00:26] <nshire> would I just chroot in to do that?
[00:27] <sarnold> yeah, if you're at a rescue prompt from anothr media, that should do the trick
[00:27] <nshire> I don't think I've ever seen a rescue option
[00:28] <nshire> would that be under grub when I first boot off the usb stick?
[00:29] <onixx> Good evening, does anyone know why ubuntu 18.04 when booting in rescue mode is mounting my drive as read-write ? I want it read only
[00:29] <onixx> 18.04 is the version i use
[00:30] <oerheks> why do you want it read-only?
[00:30] <onixx> zerofree
[00:30] <oerheks> that would be normal behaviour by default, iirc
[00:31] <oerheks> mount -o remount,rw / # is in my list to do.
[00:31] <onixx> oerheks: Yes, tried that too... but its active wont do it
[00:32] <onixx> I want ro , not rw
[00:33] <oerheks> interesting, why would your linux behave different?
[00:33] <oerheks> mint perhaps?
[00:34] <nshire> um are repos down?
[00:34] <nshire> err: could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut bionic inrelease
[00:34] <oerheks> nshire, no?
[00:36] <nshire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ck28zvqgjb/
[00:36] <nshire> I'm on wifi and firefox is connecting fine
[00:36] <oerheks> maybe they are in sync, try again in a minute?
[00:37] <nshire> still getting index files failed to download
[00:40] <Bashing-om> nshire: What about ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ; ping -c3 google.com ' ?
[00:41] <nshire> I can actually ping archive.ubuntu.com, <IP_ADDRESS>, google, etc fine
[00:41] <nshire> I can even ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <nshire> does chroot do something weird with the network?
[00:43] <nshire> well I should be clear, I can ping those fine from a different terminal
[00:43] <lestac> hello
[00:43] <oerheks> oh from chroot, maybe no networking running nshire
[00:44] <nshire> this is interesting
[00:44] <nshire> I can ping IPs but not hostnames
[00:45] <oerheks> edit nano /etc/resolv.conf and add  nameserver something
[00:48] <nshire> I need to install the resolveconf package to do that
[00:48] <nshire> which is difficult when it cannot resolve the package server
[00:49] <nshire> nvm I think it went through
[00:49] <nshire> oerheks, thanks
[00:52] <nshire> new package available: linux-firmware ... I bet this will fix my problems
[00:53] <nshire> (currently on 1.173.16).
[00:56] <oerheks> ye, a recent update
[00:56] <oerheks> and more
[01:06] <nshire> great it still gets stuck on loading initial ramdisk
[01:10] <nshire> 1.173.16
[01:10] <nshire> erm.. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GnyDjhP2kY/
[01:12] <Tobbi> Is this the proper channel to post about compilation issues?
[01:12] <Tobbi> I have a user (of SuperTux) who's getting linker errors with SDL2.
[01:12] <Tobbi> And I don't know how to help them further.
[01:12] <Tobbi> Or, maybe #sdl would be a better channel.
[01:14] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/supertux us the snap version
[01:14] <Tobbi> Oh well I'm gonna have them join here first.
[01:15] <oerheks> <IP_ADDRESS> .. global play
[01:15] <Tobbi> oerheks: I didn't know we had a snap version :D
[01:15] <oerheks> have fun!
[01:15] <Tobbi> Thank you! :)
[01:16] <Tobbi> I'm part of the supertux team by the way...
[01:16] <Tobbi> But that thing is maintained by someone else, probably grumbel
[01:16] <oerheks> oh then it is curious you did not knew
[01:16] <oerheks> Lothar Serra Mari (lserramari)
[01:17]  * oerheks downloading add-ons
[01:17] <Tobbi> :D
[01:17] <Tobbi> SuperTux add-ons?
[01:17] <oerheks> yes, internal routine to get them
[01:17] <Tobbi> Have fun :D
[01:17] <oerheks> maps mostly
[01:19] <nshire> is there likely to be anything important in /etc/ ? I give up on fixing my install and I'm gonna nuke it and reinstall
[01:20] <nshire> so far only archived /home/ and I don't really want to bother with more
[01:23] <Jordan_U> nshire: How important /etc/ is really depends on what you're doing. In general, server type things tend to have a lot of important configuration in /home/ and desktop type things have a lot of configuration in /home/you/ . We can't really tell you easily if you have anything important in /etc/.
[01:23] <nshire> just desktop type stuff
[01:23] <nshire> drive format time
[01:24] <Jordan_U> nshire: Ubuntu's installer will allow you to re-install preserving /home/, even if it's not on a separate partition.
[01:24] <nshire> I didn't see that option when I checked earlier
[01:25] <Jordan_U> nshire: It should detect an existing install and give you an option. I haven't used the Ubuntu installer in some years so I can't say exactly how that option looks.
[01:26] <Jordan_U> nshire: If you boot to the desktop of the LiveUSB (so that you can run other programs) you can post screenshots of what you're seeing in the installer and we can confirm that you're choosing the correct options.
[01:31] <mkquist> stop
[01:31] <mkquist> quit
[01:31] <mkquist> quit
[01:31] <oerheks> !yay
[01:31] <nshire> lol
[01:32] <oerheks> !cookie | Jordan_U nshire
[01:32] <nshire> I'm going to see if I can get a 5.x kernel installed and then I'll actually give up on preserving the filesystem
[01:32] <oerheks> !hwe
[01:33] <oerheks> that would bring 5.3.x
[01:35] <nshire> FWIW this appears to be the exact same bug I'm experiencing although I am on the very latest bios
[01:35] <nshire> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1144800/ubuntu-18-04-2-boot-stuck-on-purple-screen-after-updates/1145959
[01:36] <oerheks> sometimes funny things are working through, can take a minute...
[01:37] <oerheks> and i heard about a nasty one,..
[01:37] <oerheks> "Picking autologin crashes the login screen for me. I need to manually kill gdm3 from a console in order to log in. Only happens on my machine using nvidia drivers."
[01:38] <nshire> yeah bugs happen
[01:38] <nshire> firmware bugs that kill all boot options are not fun :D
[01:39] <oerheks> apt install -f
[01:41] <lestac> what is -f ?
[01:42] <sarnold> it'll try to finish installing packages that had failures during install
[01:43] <nshire> lestac, fixes broken dependencies
[01:43] <oerheks> heavier would be dpkg reconfigure
[01:45] <filohuhum>  arm
[01:45] <nshire> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[01:45] <filohuhum> ups, wrong window
[01:45] <kremator> hey good night/day folks
[01:45] <nshire> oh it would help if the webchat actually put me into the channel rather than somewhere else
[01:45] <kremator> im trying to add the qBittorrent stable PPA for buuntu 18.04
[01:46] <kremator> but i get an hash sum mistmatch, i know hwat it means but i doubt the PPA is hijacked, i tihnk the dude just forgot to update it's release file (it's only a few days old by now)
[01:46] <kremator> is there a way i can override that error?
[01:47] <nshire> oerheks, so I should try "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04" after I've chrooted in
[01:47] <sarnold> kremator: are you using apt-cacher-ng?
[01:47] <oerheks> file a bugreport, 9 hrs old .. https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-stable?field.series_filter=bionic
[01:48] <kremator> sarnold, nope, im using olden apt-add-repository
[01:48] <sarnold> kremator: apt-cacher-ng is more like squid-deb-proxy, it's a caching http proxy that some folks use.. but it's also got a habit of serving up the wrong file once in a while
[01:49] <kremator> sarnold, oh ok, but no im not using any kind of reverse proxies
[01:50] <oerheks> no issue here
[01:50] <oerheks> are you fully updated? sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[01:52] <kremator> oerheks, is that with me?
[01:52] <kremator> nope im not fully updated i think but im neither that outdated
[01:52] <oerheks> remove lists and update again
[01:53] <kremator> oerheks, already did that
[01:54] <kremator> but im gonna update again after i removed the ppa
[01:54] <kremator> oh wait
[01:54] <oerheks> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:54] <kremator> lol
[01:54] <kremator> looks like the problem isnt that PPA btu another one i have
[01:54] <oerheks> kill it, gently
[01:55] <kremator> oerheks, welp. i prefer disabling it for now
[01:56] <nshire> I don't understand - loading kernel 5.3.0-45-generic..... loading initial ramdisk
[01:57] <nshire> then gets stuck again
[01:57] <nshire> how is this possible?
[01:58] <kremator> holys... oerheks remember when youa sked me if i was fully updated and i answered that i wasnt but i wasnt that outate either?
[01:58] <kremator> welp, lookslike i even have a f... kernel update ahead
[01:58] <kremator> its have been only 3 months lol
[02:01] <nshire> is there any way to get more output from grub, other than just removing "quiet" from the linux line?
[02:05] <richard_> Hi, I am trying to diagnose why my Panda PAU09 USB wifi adaptor randomly disconnects and I'm having issues.  I would greatly appreciate anyone who can shed some light into my troubleshooting process.  I am running "journalctl --follow" to see what pops up when I get a disconnect.  Is there anything else I should do, like common config changes when using usb wireless in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <oerheks> reading articles, it should work fine
[02:08] <oerheks> rtl2800 usb is the chipset?
[02:08] <pi0> i have a lot of storage space but i can no longer install more apps via apt install https://hasteb.in/bagiqufa.sql
[02:09] <pi0> not sure how to resolve this i need to install some apps for school
[02:09] <oerheks> what happens when you do?
[02:09] <oerheks> that post says enough space..
[02:09] <richard_> @oerheks yes
[02:11] <pi0> what would limit the install of apps?
[02:11] <richard_> @oerheks I read some articles and reviews that say it works great.  The first adaptor I got had similar issues, and the manufacturer send me a new one.  Now the new one is having issues as well
[02:11] <oerheks> pi0, can we see an output when you try to install something?
[02:12] <pi0> yes
[02:14] <pi0> that is odd
[02:14] <pi0> now it works
[02:14] <oerheks> maybe unattended updates was bugging you?
[02:15] <pi0> i did an apt update
[02:15] <pi0> and upgrade
[02:15] <pi0> then it worked i have no clue
[02:15] <oerheks> "locked by an other process" something
[02:21] <Ivan81> hi all, I'm running ubuntu 19.10, and I'm trying to get my mouse scroll wheel to work. from what I have read, I think I am using a default ps/2 driver, and I should switch to an intellimouse driver? but I'm not sure how to do that
[02:25] <Bashing-om> Ivan81: Have you looked in your bios to see what the USB settings are ? As that is what bios passes to the opeating system.
[02:26] <Ivan81> I'm not sure how that's relevant...the mouse works, just not the scrolling feature. Does it matter if I'm full speed USB for the other functions?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Ivan81: I too would not think so - My sysyem when I changed to a USB mouse I did have to reset in bios.
[02:38] <pi0> doesnt work
[02:39] <pi0> whoops
[02:39] <pi0> wrong area
[02:57] <arunkumar413> How to ungroup the opened windows in the dock
[03:04] <richard_> Now that I have started asking for help with my random wifi usb disconnects, its not going to do it anymore
[03:20] <pinPoint> Is there a way to reset network settings systemwide, removing all configs?
[03:20] <pinPoint> and reinstalling network again as a new fresh install of ubuntu?
[03:30] <nshire> I'm getting "no root file system defined" on the installer
[03:30] <nshire> trying to preserve my /home/ folder as per Jordan_U 's advice
[03:32] <nshire> imgur.com/avB5Rg.png
[03:33] <Bashing-om> nshire: Been awhile since I have encountered 6 - but early in the install is a 'use as' flag that must be set to / .
[03:33] <nshire> btw sry this is the url http://i.imgur.com/avsB5Rg.png
[03:35] <nshire> 6? so far I have not seen any windows to enter flags
[03:38] <Bashing-om> nshire: Maybe at the screen in the paste - select "change" - do you see "use as" - mabe go back a step ?
[03:38] <nshire> I'm on the installation type page, and selected "something else"
[03:38] <nshire> oh I think I see
[03:38] <Bashing-om> nshire: "something else" is valid for your use case.
[03:40] <nshire> https://i.imgur.com/MuFJlfl.png
[03:40] <nshire> then mount it at / ?
[03:41] <nshire> k so use as ext4, mount at / it is
[03:41] <Bashing-om> nshire: mount point" set that as / .
[03:42] <nshire> https://i.imgur.com/PGS1dov.png this is okay since my /home/ dir is not a system directory, right?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> nshire: That is my understanding - IF you do not format the / partition then /home should be left intact. I think :(
[03:46] <nshire> I put it in a gz archive this morning so everything should be fine
[03:47] <nshire> really weird that I never could get that initial ramdisk thing figured out
[03:47] <nshire> sanity check here-
[03:48] <nshire> so it was kernel panicing on 4.15.0-88, 4.15.0-91, 5.3.0-45 when installed on disk, but I could load the liveUSBs without any issues
[03:49] <nshire> tried regenning the initrd, kernels, updating grub... still no changes whatsoever
[03:49] <nshire> all recovery options had the same problem
[04:02] <nshire> trying Really
[04:02] <nshire> hard not to invoke capslock
[04:03] <nshire> just did a reinstall and it still halts on "loading initial ramdisk"
[04:13] <nshire> even the "nosmp" workaround still leaves me unbootable
[04:34] <nshire> wow okay. enabled secureboot and it booted right up
[04:34] <nshire> that makes no sense
[07:18] <Zajt> Hi! In which file can disable the system information that shows up when I login into a server? https://puu.sh/FsA4I/4407f979f1.png I tried adding "Banner None" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but it did not help
[07:39] <zoraj> Hi guys, when I try to copy some large files ~2GB the system often freeze or getting so slow that I can hardly move the mouse cursor,
[07:39] <zoraj> any clue ?
[07:39] <zoraj> I thought that it could be a low memory issue so I restarted my computer then copy the files but still the same problem
[07:43] <zoraj> my spec: Corei3 / 4GB of ram,
[08:22] <faceface> moin
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> welcome faceface
[08:23] <faceface> I'm setting up an ubuntu server VM on my laptop to use on a private 'cloud' server
[08:23] <faceface> hi lotuspsychje
[08:23] <faceface> I built the server using:
[08:23] <faceface>  qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom ubuntu-18.04.4-live-server-amd64.iso -hda ubuntu.qcow2 -boot d -m 1024
[08:24] <faceface> Now I'm running it using:
[08:24] <faceface> qemu-system-x86_64 -hda ubuntu.qcow2 -boot d -m 1024
[08:24] <faceface> weird thing is that I can't seem to see the network (ping www.google.com fails), but apt upgrade is doing somehting...
[08:25] <faceface> In general networking is confusing to me... can any one suggest a way for me to ssh into that VM?
[08:27] <faceface> also... what the heck is cloud-init that I keep hearing about?
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> faceface: you might want to try #ubuntu-server
[08:28] <faceface> lotuspsychje: thanks
[08:53] <DarkTrick> Within the last 3 days I experience occasional "system crashs". Meaning, the whole session crashes during usage or crash during hibernation recovery.
[08:53] <DarkTrick> I just experienced another one and opened syslog right after
[08:53] <DarkTrick> Could anyone check, if there is something uncommon shown in there?
[08:54] <DarkTrick> https://pastebin.com/t23PfgDE
[08:54] <DarkTrick> I guess the crash was right before 17:32:00
[08:55] <DarkTrick> using Ubuntu 19.10 - xubuntu
[08:56] <DarkTrick> Kernel 5.3.0-45-generic
[09:52] <Aryan> Hi
[09:52] <Aryan> How can i get ubuntu mirrors?
[09:53] <Aryan> I mean sources
[09:54] <Aryan> If my /etc/apt/sources was corrupted, where can i find the good mirror ones?
[09:56] <Aryan> Hmmm?
[09:56] <mkquist> Aryan: maybe...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#Adding_the_Universe_and_Multiverse_Repositories
[10:00] <mkquist> man Googles good!
[10:10] <deadrom> hi
[10:12] <deadrom> anyone here with a Dell M4800 mobile workstation who got the fans to work so they don't wreck your nerves? every 10-20 seconds the cpu temp exceeds 60C and then the fans will jump from 0 to 2500 immediately instead of going to 1000rpm or so
[10:13] <deadrom> I got dell-bios-fan-control to disable the BIOS settings and i8kmon zones defined but the "around 1000rpm" zone is ignored
[10:14] <deadrom> with BIOS fan control enabled the fans sing away at 3700rpm even at 54C
[10:23] <TomyWork> how do oss, alsa and pulseaudio interact on kubuntu 18.04?
[10:23] <TomyWork> my laptop's internal speakers work fine on pulseaudio, but i cant get them to work on alsa and i cant tell which device is which
[10:24] <TomyWork> the application i'm using (twinkle) only supports alsa and oss
[10:24] <TomyWork> and the default alsa device seems to by my headset, not the speakers
[10:26] <TomyWork> ok, they do work, after all, just not on startup. this is strange
[10:27] <TomyWork> but still, which interface is based on which?
[10:27] <TomyWork> maybe knowing that will help me understand a few things
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:44] <FreeBDSM> hello. I've updated an ubuntu 16 -> 18 and it screwed up bootloader for me: the notebook now can't boot to windows
[10:45] <FreeBDSM> ubuntu boots fine. I've tried some GUI util (boot-repair) to restore bootloader, but it failed. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TCTK5SJQY4/ this is the paste it generated.
[10:48] <TomyWork> FreeBDSM, do you get a boot menu?
[10:48] <TomyWork> and is there windows in that boot menu?
[10:48] <FreeBDSM> TomyWork: no, by default it boots right into ubuntu. Tried to hold shift to get to it. No windows menuitem there.
[10:48] <TomyWork> ok, that was missing in your original question :)
[10:49] <TomyWork> can't help you, just asking additional info so others, who can, won't have to
[10:50] <TomyWork> maybe googling line 469 would help
[10:50] <TomyWork> "Windows not detected by os-prober on sda2."
[11:06] <vlm> is it possible to do pw less sudo for a command rather than a whole bin file?Seems if i do /bin/docker i can use sudo without password for all docker commands,how about just for *docker ps* ,i know i could possibly make a wrapper script but is it possible other solutions?
[11:12] <FreeBDSM> vlm: I doubt so
[11:13] <FreeBDSM> I doubt one can make such a sudo rule
[11:13] <FreeBDSM> 'ps' is just 1st arg for the command you call
[11:19] <vlm> yes seems so
[11:27] <esv> FreeBDSM, windows 10?
[11:30] <dmnur> vlm: well, it is possible. For example: johndoe ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/docker ps
[11:33] <dmnur> vlm: this will match *exactly* `docker ps`, not e.g. `docker ps -a`. You can add another rule with a wildcard though, like this: johndoe ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/docker ps *
[11:33] <vlm> dmnur: though how would i add it to alias?Cant seem to get it to work there :/
[11:34] <dmnur> vlm: alias?
[11:36] <vlm> dmnur: the Cmnd_Alias myalias = mycommand args
[11:36] <vlm> dmnur: doesnt seem to accept args :/
[11:39] <BluesKaj> vim in the terminal, sudo visudo,  then add the line just below thw %sudo,the to save and exit , do ctl+o, enter, ctl+x
[11:40] <BluesKaj> corection, then to save and exit do ctl+o, enter, ctl+x
[11:41] <BluesKaj> you're editing the /etc/sudoers file btw
[11:41] <vlm> BluesKaj: its working the way dmnur suggested,was just wondering how to get it working with alias though i like to have one alias for multiple commands i can refer to at the sudo line
[11:43] <BluesKaj> vim vim create a file called ./bash_aliases and add your aliases there
[11:45] <vlm> got it working i as using wrong path the whole time,thanks for help all
[11:45] <BluesKaj> it'll be in dolphin>view>hidden files
[11:46] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:20] <vlm> is it possible to have nopasswd sudo for one command and still be able to sudo all else commands?With johndoe ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/docker ps * i only get to issue /bin/docker ps * and no other commands tohugh
[12:22] <JimBuntu> vlm: I didn't realize you could add subcommands or arguments to the single command nopasswd sudo
[12:22] <pragmaticenigma> vlm: Yes, you can specify applications that you do not need to require a password for use with sudo. This article is pretty indepth on how to do it. https://askubuntu.com/a/159009
[12:22] <pragmaticenigma> oh, subcommands... not possible
[12:25] <dmnur> vlm: johndoe ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL, NOPASSWD: ...
[12:25] <vlm> johndoe ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /bin/docker ps * does work though
[12:25] <vlm> problem is then i cant doe any other commands :/
[12:26] <pragmaticenigma> vlm: I think in this case, it might be better to leave it as it is
[12:36] <dmnur> vlm: you can also just add another line *BEFORE* that one, like this: johndoe ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[12:37] <samfisher> why do I see IPs and reverse DNS for people? is because of my ubuntu or IRC client?
[12:39] <vlm> dmnur:lol before yes indeed,i already tried it after didnt work just didnt think to put it first thanks again
[12:54] <esv> vlm have you looked at docker roles?
[13:22] <RomanGod> Is it possible to redirect a url to localhost? (i.e. when i type mydomain.com into my browser, i want it to redirect to localhost)
[13:26] <al2o3-cr> RomanGod: yes. edit the /etc/hosts file.
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> RomanGod: Add an entry to /etc/hosts... the format is IP address space then the domain/url ... example: <IP_ADDRESS>  example.com
[13:27] <RomanGod> great thanks. Can i give a port number too?
[13:28] <RomanGod> e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>:3000 example.com
[13:28] <eugenio_> hi all, I was just trying to start x11vnc on a remote pc, butI got this error: XOpenDisplay(":0") failed, any idea?
[13:29] <RomanGod> apparently not
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> RomanGod: no... just the ip address and the desired domain you'd like to you
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> *to use
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> eugenio_: x11vnc needs to be started from within the graphical environment you wish to share... by design it's not meant to be started remotely
[13:31] <RomanGod> thanks
[13:32] <eugenio_> pragmaticenigma, I have just used it yesterday, but I did an error, because I logout thew user in the remote desktop from vnc client
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> eugenio_: It needs an active session to attach to
[13:32] <eugenio_> pragmaticenigma any way to restart an active session from remote?
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> eugenio_: I don't believe it is possible... someone would need to be phyically at the machine
[13:33] <elmie198> anyone can help me with Ubuntu server 19.10 + nextcloud?
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> elmie198: It works better if you explain your issue in as much detail instead of asking to ask if anyone knows anything about the thing you have a question about.
[13:35] <elmie198> ok, thanks, well I have apache2 setup, and nextcloud is the default page. I want it so that is http://my ip/nextcloud not http://my ip
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> eugenio_: You might be able to spin up a virtual desktop with vncserver... but I'm not familiar with that approach
[13:36] <faLUCE> hello. Is there a _simple_ way to run a python script with a mouse click?
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: no... while it is possible, it is not recommended
[13:37] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: this is so bad
[13:37] <eugenio_> pragmaticenigma, some more details?
[13:37] <faLUCE> why they removed preferences from nautilus?
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> eugenio_: Again, not something I have a lot of experience with. Searching the web for "VNC Virtual Desktop" should start you down the path for researching it
[13:38] <eugenio_> pragmaticenigma, thanks
[13:40] <elmie198> pragmaticenigma how do I make nextcloud not the default webpage of apache2 in ubuntu server
[13:40] <faLUCE> there should be a "launcher" for scripts. Otherwise I always have to open a terminal
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: best practices should always be to run scripts manually in the terminal
[13:41] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: there should be a launcher as well
[13:42] <faLUCE> for example: if you put the script in /usr/bin it's nonsense to open the text editor
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: It is dangerous to allow scripts to execute through double clicks... that's why it's not provided by default. It would be very easy for someone to just provide you with a malicious python script and you blindly execute it, and now your machine is compromised
[13:43] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: as said before it's not dangerous if you leave the user the possibility to configure this behavior
[13:43] <faLUCE> it's nonsense to disallow this at all
[13:43] <faLUCE> totally nonsense
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: it is for you, when the entire thing is easily enabled. However, volunteers here do not provide instructions that would intentionally leave a system vulnerable to an attack.
[13:44] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: no, it's totally nonsense at all. What has not to be set as "default" doesn't mean that can't be set as non-default
[13:45] <faLUCE> it has nothing to do with vulnerability
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> elmie198: I'm not familiar with nextcloud and apache... I offered an advisement that providing more information would help someone that is monitoring the channel find your request and reply if they knew something
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: Do you have a support question. Otherwise, please feel free to continue your discussion in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[13:46] <elmie198> pragmaticenigma np, thanks.. btw I got nextcloud from snap and is giving me a headache on how that change all the config locations
[13:46] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: the question is my first question. What is the easiest way to make a script executable with a double click, on Ubuntu?
[13:46] <faLUCE> and it's not off-topic at all
[13:47] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: And my response was, volunteers here will not provide instructions that intentionally leave your machine in a vulnerable state.
[13:47] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: don't be dogmatic, please. I'm reporting an issue, I'm not making polemics
[13:47] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: and I insist: even if you put an executable into /usr/bin you make the vulnerable state. what you say is nonsense
[13:48] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: that approach only allows the one script/program to run... not every potential script on the computer
[13:48] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: this doesn't mean anything. A script is not potentially more dangerous than a program
[13:49] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: Now you're back to having a discussion...
[13:50] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: it's not me who is having a discussion. please stop insisting. It's an issue, and I'm not making polemics
[13:50] <faLUCE> what would be bad is if you make the script executable with click as _default_. But not as a configurable behavior
[13:51] <pragmaticenigma> faLUCE: The appropriate method to making a python script executable is the following: Make sure the script has the appropriate #! as the very first line. It should be #! /usr/bin/python3 ... Then chmod +x pythonscript.py ... now your script is executable
[13:51] <faLUCE> given that _every program_ can be configured in this way
[13:51] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: I already added the shebang and permissions
[13:51] <faLUCE> but ubuntu opens the text editor as well
[13:53] <faLUCE> it's clearly an issue. And I'm searching for a workaround, at least
[13:57] <bitblit> when i run add-apt-repository it just hangs forever..
[13:58] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: I just found the solution. I copied the script into /usr/bin and it gets executed without opening a terminal
[13:59] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: next time, before insisting in what you don't know, read more carefully the question
[14:00] <DArqueBishop> It was pretty clear that he understood the question but that as he considered it problematic from a security perspective he wasn't going to assist.
[14:01] <faLUCE> DArqueBishop: no, he did not understood it
[14:02] <pragmaticenigma> so glad some people think they have telepathic skills. DArqueBishop you are correct, in the way they presented their inquery, I wasn't about to provide them with a solution that would leave their machine in a vulnerable state. They didn't ask about adding the script to /usr/bin... they asked how to make Nautilus execute python scripts with a double click.
[14:03] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: [15:36] <faLUCE> hello. Is there a _simple_ way to run a python script with a mouse click?
[14:03] <faLUCE> pragmaticenigma: please stop insisting.
[14:03] <DArqueBishop> faLUCE: congratulations. You just proved his point.
[14:04] <faLUCE> DArqueBishop: absolutely not. I just proved that _there was_ an easy way. And that he did not understand the question
[14:05] <faLUCE> now I'm tired of repeating. And it's pointless. I'm going back to do my things.
[14:20] <NasusiroTokasoni> Hello.
[14:22] <NasusiroTokasoni> Is there a way to restore privileges on my user to default?
[14:23] <ace_me1> how could I pipe something to an email attachement ?
[14:23] <ace_me1> I do try mysqldump... | gzip |mail -s "some subject" emailaddress but I receive the dump in the body of the email
[14:27] <JimBuntu> ace_me1: you can use -a to attach. `man mail` then `/attach` <ENTER> to see more info about it
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> ace_me1: I think you have to dump to a file, then issue the mail command with the -A option and give it the file
[14:37] <Aquib_> hi
[14:38] <Aquib_> i am getting issue on WSL Ubuntu
[14:38] <pragmaticenigma> !wsl | Aquib_
[14:41] <Aquib_> Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
[14:41] <Aquib_>   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[14:41] <Aquib_> Err:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease
[14:41] <Aquib_>   Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[14:42] <Aquib_> this is the issue when i try to execute update command
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> Aquib_: Support for WSL is not available here... please see the message from ubottu
[14:42] <Aquib_> ok
[15:14] <zen_coder> how can I install systemd to ubuntu (18.04) ? I need to have a `systemd.pc` file in my `/usr/share/pkgconfig/`
[15:14] <zen_coder> does anybody know, what package I need to install for that?
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> zen_coder: systemd is installed by default, I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do
[15:17] <zen_coder> I need to compile something
[15:17] <zen_coder> https://github.com/GENIVI/dlt-daemon
[15:17] <zen_coder> "WITH_SYSTEMD_JOURNAL 	OFF 	Set to ON to use the systemd journal in dlt-system" I have this flag ON
[15:18] <zen_coder> now I get a cmake config error
[15:18] <zen_coder> because `systemd.pc' is not found
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> zen_coder: I would recommend putting a question out to that development team. They might have an error in their code
[15:27] <ducasse> zen_coder: libsystemd-dev contains that file
[15:28] <ducasse> sorry, the systemd package should have it as /usr/share/pkgconfig/systemd.pc
[15:28] <pyzozord> hey I just learned abou ubuntu-alternatives. Is there some place with list for all things like that so I can learn about all of them?
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> pyzozord: I'm not sure what you mean by ubuntu-alternatives... can you please provide a source for where you found that or explain it in a little more detail?
[15:33] <pyzozord> pragmaticenigma: i was trying to understand why vi is actually vim with most compile options disabled. I asked here few days ago they mentioned the update-alternatives. Now i'm trying to figure out source for knoweledge for these kinds of programs and systems on ubuntu so that I don't need to ask every time on irc
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> pyzozord: oh... "update-alternatives" not "ubuntu-alternatives"
[15:41] <pyzozord> pragmaticenigma: did I say "ubuntu-alternatives"? Yeah, sorry I meant "update-alternatives"
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> pyzozord: I'm reviewing the "man update-alternatives" it's a good explination on what it is for and how it works
[15:45] <Joel> trying to change my DNS servers in 18.04, everything says I have to change a file in /etc/netplan/, but I have no files here... what gives?
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> Joel: you might have NetworkManager instead of netplan.io
[15:45] <Joel> pragmaticenigma ah, that I do, any idea what file it sets dns in?
[15:47] <dmnur> pyzozord: Ubuntu is based on Debian, so you can check out Debian documentation. For a short overview of some interesting commands, see Debian Reference Card: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/refcard. For more info, read Debian Reference: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> Joel: this response might be correct if you're looking for a command line approach: https://askubuntu.com/a/1170220
[15:48] <Joel> pragmaticenigma thanks a ton!
[15:50] <pavlos> Joel: what does systemd-resolve --status | grep Servers give you?
[16:14] <gin> Hi there, I have a Ubuntu server installation on a proliant server running with a 500Gb disk, I ordered 2 new harddrives to put into raid1, I were wondering if it's possible to migrate the old disk to the new raid1 setup
[16:16] <gin> can I just backup the old partition table and migrate that to new location, or should I rather try to migrate the files and make a new installation
[16:19] <genii> gin: Method described here is still viable https://askubuntu.com/questions/526747/setting-up-raid-1-on-14-04-with-an-existing-drive
[16:19] <gin> genii: Thanks!
[16:39] <oaky> Hey, I'm about to install FreeCAD on my xubuntu 18.04 and just wondering if I install the one from the official ubuntu repositories, will I get new stable updates when I run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade". Or do I have to add their "stable PPA" in order to receive updates?
[16:40] <oerheks> oaky, install the snap? https://snapcraft.io/freecad
[16:41] <oerheks> btw, 'apt dist-upgrade' might give more packages held back.
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> oaky: The one in the official ubuntu repo will get patched for bugs and security fixes. typcially repo installs do not receive new features when released. You can use their PPA, however support will have to be provided by them, and you will be asked to removed it here if you run into issues with your system. Snaps are the safest as they typically have updates and feature releases included. Though support can be limited here for
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> them
[16:43] <oerheks> same for PPA or Snap; trust the owner!
[16:44] <oaky> pragmaticenigma: Ok, thanks. If I open "Software" application and go to freeCAD and choose "Install". That is "the snap"?
[16:45] <pragmaticenigma> oaky: There is no method to tell through the software center
[16:45]  * linux_user says if I have a KVM guest and it has 2 interfaces, each with static ip addresses and such, how do I set a metric for each interface so that the routing table is ordered as I wish it to be?
[16:45] <linux_user> Ubuntu 18.04
[16:45] <oerheks> the description might give a clue
[16:45] <oerheks> deatails: snapstore
[16:46] <oaky> Ye, it says "Source: Snap Store"
[16:46] <oerheks> oke
[16:46] <oaky> Does that mean it's from FreeCAD, verified?
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> oaky: snaps can be created by anyone, there presently is no method to verify that a snap is endorsed by the developer that provides the software
[16:47] <irreleph4nt> Hi. I am currently setting up an installation of Focal (switching from Fedora). How do I know if a Ubuntu package (refind bootloader) will be available for Focal if it currently is not listed as such on packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> irreleph4nt: Focal 20.04 has not been released yet
[16:48] <dax> and packages.ubuntu.com lists refind as available for focal anyway
[16:48] <irreleph4nt> dax, do you mind sharing a link, please? I only see it listed agains eoan
[16:48] <dax> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=refind
[16:48] <oaky> pragmaticenigma: Mm ok I understand. But so if I go to terminal and write "apt search freecad" and get one result named "freecad" and then issue "sudo apt-get install freecad", is that the same as installing the Snap? i.e that I will updates
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> irreleph4nt: try  /msg ubottu info [package] focal
[16:48] <irreleph4nt> pragmaticenigma, does that mean you want me to come back here with that question once 20.04 has been released?
[16:49] <oerheks> irreleph4nt, to keep bugs in one channel, until release
[16:49] <oerheks> !ubuntu+1
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> irreleph4nt: No, it means there is a dedicated support channel for unreleased version of Ubuntu in #ubuntu+1
[16:50] <irreleph4nt> ooooohhh, I wasn't aware, my bad :O I am sorry
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> I didn't want to interrupt someone that was replying to your inquery
[16:50] <oerheks> irreleph4nt, have fun!
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> irreleph4nt: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/refind
[16:50] <irreleph4nt> dax, thank you. I tried the vanilla search of packages.ubuntu.com, which might defailt to only showing eoan matches ... at least that's what happened for me
[16:51] <dax> the Distribution dropdown on the search box on the front page defaults to eoan
[16:52] <irreleph4nt> MonkeyDust, thanks, I am saving that IRC line for later use
[16:57] <jvwjgames> How do I change the text of the Ubuntu installer? For example change the text "Installing base system" to Installing core files or something to that effect?
[16:58] <nacc> jvwjgames: you may want #ubuntu-devel; but also why? you'd need to build a new installer I think.
[16:59] <jvwjgames> Ok thanks nacc
[17:00] <jvwjgames> Cause I am building a distro
[17:00] <oerheks> interesting..
[17:01] <oerheks> mint-2?
[17:01] <nacc> jvwjgames: i would say that's not a support topic for this channel :)
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> nacc: you did ask why
[17:02] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: ack
[17:02] <irreleph4nt> I have asked in ubuntu+1 without getting a response, so I'll try here as I don't think this is Focal specific: I am installing on UEFI using debootstrap. When I install the linux kernel inside the chroot however, apt automagically pulls in grub-pc instead of grub-efi. Can I overrule that behaviour somehow?
[17:03] <jvwjgames> oerheks: no a custom distro I added packages to to Auto fire a VM in full screen mode
[17:08] <kur1j> is there something in apt that will tell you what package includes a program? for example apt-get install net-tools will have nmap
[17:08] <kur1j> if I know I need nmap, how do I find what I need to install net-tools
[17:09] <dax> for starters, nmap is in a package called "nmap", it's not in net-tools
[17:10] <dax> anyway. there's various ways, the apt-file command/package is one of them
[17:10] <dax> https://packages.ubuntu.com/ can usually do it too
[17:10] <oerheks> apt-cache rdepends packagename
[17:12] <oerheks> or was that the old way? sudo apt install apt-rdepends ## apt-rdepends [options] [packages]
[17:12] <dax> rdepends is for "which packages depend on this one", not "which package(s) contain this file/program"
[17:12] <oerheks> oh
[17:17] <sc0utonlinux> I have three internal hds .. one of them is being automounted only for root access .. where can I change this ?
[17:17] <sc0utonlinux> the Fstab doesn't contain any info except the boot partition
[17:18] <oerheks> you tell us how you (auto)mounted them?
[17:19] <sc0utonlinux> oerheks: i booted the system :)
[17:19] <sc0utonlinux> and I can see them in dolphin ..
[17:19] <sc0utonlinux> All i did was format that one HD with gparted and now the filesystem is read only for my user ..
[17:21] <Jordan_U> sc0utonlinux: That's probably because the top level directory on the filesystem is owned by root and set to read only for all other users. Have you tried using chmod?
[17:22] <sc0utonlinux> Jordan_U: chmod on the mount point ?
[17:27] <sc0utonlinux> Jordan_U: Yay that worked :) simple yet effective .. im still very new to all this thank you
[17:31] <TheFu> sc0utonlinux, learning ad hoc might seem good, because you'll keep interest, but getting information in a specific order can be much more efficient.
[17:31] <TheFu> Intermediate skills build off basic skills. Basic skills build from beginner skills. Beginner skills built from total noob skills.
[17:32] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu: concretly what do you suggest?
[17:32] <sc0utonlinux> I am open for all recommendations :)
[17:33] <TheFu> http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[17:33] <TheFu> READ the first 250 pgs or so, then skim the rest of the book quickly (2-5 sec per page) just to get a feeling for what else is possible.
[17:34] <TheFu> After that, then work through a power-user's book - _Unix Power Tools_ or similar.
[17:35] <TheFu> After that, find some LPI Admin 101 books and work through those, then Admin 102, then Admin 201, then Admin 202.
[17:35] <blu3dr3am> hello
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome blu3dr3am
[17:36] <oerheks> just start simple, and look in the ubuntu wikis
[17:37] <TheFu> That all assumes you want to be an admin.  If you want to be a software dev, after the first Admin 101 book, hopefully, you've learned a language to beginner level too, work through an intermediate level book.
[17:37] <TheFu> Of course, learn whatever someone is paying you to know first.  Paycheck always trumps everything else.
[17:38] <TheFu> About 2 yrs in, connections between unrelated things will start happening.  Everything is a file or a process will make more sense.
[17:39] <TheFu> You'll start using files for all sorts of unexpected things.  Like suppose you want to encrypt a directory.
[17:40] <TheFu> There are lots of ways to accomplish that. Using good encryption, LUKS, and a file you created which becomes the LUKS container.
[17:41] <TheFu> Or use a tool written by someone else, but you'll have an idea as to what that tool is really doing underneath.
[17:41] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu: Im gonna save this chat and try this .. but Linux is not my bread winner .. linux is only my hobby :)
[17:42] <sc0utonlinux> Much apreciated!
[17:42] <TheFu> There is "understanding" and there is "knowing what to type." The world needs both types of people.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> sc0utonlinux: Nixie Pixel is a nice Ubuntu lady to follow on Youtube
[17:43] <TheFu> MonkeyDust, didn't she disappear for a few years due to an illness?  Is she back?
[17:43] <sc0utonlinux> Id rather become an understander than a typer :)
[17:43] <TheFu> Sometimes I'm a typer. Sometimes I'm an understander.  ;)
[18:03] <TheFu> Some free links for LPI training: https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/Free_Training_Materials
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> not here please TheFu
[18:04] <oerheks> more a subject for #ubuntu-discuss
[18:07] <TheFu> Sorry. Not used to channels that have 5+ partner channels too.
[18:52] <irreleph4nt> Hi. I am currently setting up a new install. Question: Does netplan automatically apply changes in netcfg upon reboot or do I need to run netplan apply manually?
[18:52] <sarnold> it should run automatically
[18:54] <irreleph4nt> I am switching from Arch Linux. Never would have thought someone uses yaml files for network configuration ~.~ ... will I stumple upon them again somewhere else in Ubuntu as well?
[18:54] <irreleph4nt> stumble*
[18:55] <sarnold> irreleph4nt: yes, ubuntu likes yaml files -- snapcraft, lxd, juju, mir, at least use yaml
[18:56] <irreleph4nt> sarnold, so I won't have to deal with them again. Puh ... thanks! :)
[18:58] <sarnold> irreleph4nt: depends what you're doing, anyway :)
[19:06] <oft_gegong> !20.04
[19:18] <heth> hi! is there a GUI way to manager linux file permissions? like recursive applying of rules, sticky bits rwx etc
[19:19] <ioria> the file manager ?
[19:21] <cyberspectre> This command tells exiftool to rename files. https://pastebin.com/MNzwxkXJ what would be the simplest way to make the output filenames be uppercase?
[19:25] <ioria> cyberspectre,   i usually use  |  tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]'
[19:26] <cyberspectre> ioria, could you show me where that should be placed in the command?
[19:26] <ioria> cyberspectre,   usually at the end
[19:28] <cyberspectre> ioria, hm, it doesn't work at the end
[19:29] <cyberspectre> ./exiftool/exiftool '-FileName<${XMP-exif:ASIN}.${XMP-exif:Viewpoint}.%e' ./amazon/*.png | tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]'
[19:31] <ioria> cyberspectre,   show the output of your cmd (w/o tr)
[19:58] <AngelKde> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU @ 2.30GHz (2.30GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (5.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 49.8 GiB / 230.5 GiB (180.7 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 • Uptime: 19m 24s
[19:59] <oerheks> Pro .. impressive
[20:00] <dax> lol Windows 8.1 pro
[20:00] <nshire> oerheks, I found a workaround to the weird kernel panic stuff I was having
[20:00] <nshire> I even did a complete reinstall from scratch on a new drive and it still got stuck at loading ramdisk
[20:00] <nshire> turned on secure boot and it cleared right up
[20:01] <sarnold> on?
[20:01] <nshire> xps 13 9350 with i5-6200u
[20:02] <nshire> ubuntu 18.04.4 lts.. 5 different kernels
[20:02] <nshire> sarnold, oh are you asking if I turned it on?
[20:02] <sarnold> yeah
[20:02] <sarnold> oh! heh
[20:02] <sarnold> sorry :)
[20:02] <nshire> it was failing to boot with secureboot off. I turned on secureboot and it worked
[20:03] <sarnold> very curious
[20:04] <oerheks> oh, if you installed in UEFI mode, that would be no surprise..
[20:04] <oerheks> no mbr, GPT?
[20:04] <nshire> gpt and I have the board set to only uefi booting
[20:05] <oerheks> well, good find
[20:05] <sarnold> nshire: does it bust again if you go toggle secure boot back off?
[20:05] <nshire> let me see
[20:07] <nshire> yes, turning off secureboot breaks it again sarnold
[20:08] <sarnold> nshire: insane. :) thanks
[20:09] <nshire> some people mentioned that either plugging in or unplugging the laptop from AC power would allow it to boot but I have not personally experienced that
[20:09] <nshire> something seriously weird is going on with that intel microcode
[20:27] <halvors> How can i come in contact with the ubuntu translator teams?
[20:27] <halvors> On IRC
[20:29] <bencc1> does fonts-noto also install fonts-noto-color-emoji?
[20:36] <blahdeblah2> Hi. Anyone recovered from a bcache bad checksum?  I'm getting the message "bad checksum at bucket NNNN, block NNN, NN keys\n, disabling caching" when I try to register the SSD, both automatically on boot and manually via /sys/fs/bcache/register.
[20:37] <oerheks> halvors, that team works works mailing lists
[20:38] <oerheks> https://help.launchpad.net/Translations
[20:39] <oerheks> blahdeblah2, check the s.m.a.r.t. status, or do an integrity check?
[20:40] <blahdeblah2> oerheks: SMART status is good.  If there's an equivalent of an fsck for bcache devices, I'm not aware of it.  Suggestions gratefully accepted.
[20:41] <oerheks> not sure, maybe bcache has that buildin?
[20:41] <halvors> oerheks: how can i lookup the translation for this: https://i.imgur.com/H6CYPr9.png
[20:41] <halvors> Suspects that translation is wrong, english would be "Start with dedicated graphics card".
[20:42] <halvors> Can i send an email to the mailing list without being a member?=
[20:43] <oerheks> howto contact them is in the url, register at launchpad first.
[20:46] <halvors> oerheks: Doesn't mention anything about contacting the translation team in that link, maybe one of the 20 sub links?
[20:47] <halvors> I'm just trying to quickly come in contact with them to tell them about this translation issue before the 20.04 LTS release.
[20:51] <oerheks> again, it does not work that way; https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/StartingToTranslate#Making_your_first_translation
[20:51] <oerheks> or just file a bugreport?
[20:51] <oerheks> !bug
[20:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi guys...
[20:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> im trying to run 1804 in a vm and my install keeps locking up no keyboard and a couple times no mouse work
[20:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> https://pasteboard.co/J29dMrQ.png
[20:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> not sure what kind of logs i can get ya
[20:59] <tomreyn> !screenshots
[21:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> ....
[21:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> i think i got an idea my iso is on a shared drive
[21:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> maybe it stopping working cause of that
[21:04] <oerheks> installed guest-addiditons ??
[21:05] <sarnold> oerheks: probably not at that point, it looks like trouble durin gthe install.
[21:06] <oerheks> is there such an option; --to-ram?
[21:07] <sarnold> oerheks: funny you mention that, just yesterday I spotted this "toram" note on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions_that_run_from_RAM and wondered if that still worked
[21:08] <oerheks> i used to do that with pxe booting
[21:10] <Eryn_1983_FL> memory issue
[21:10] <Eryn_1983_FL> not enough ram and pointing device was tablet.
[21:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok im not understanding why its saying removing this package or that package in the install window.
[21:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> i know i install previously i figured it would format and go over, it
[21:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> thats what i thought i picked...
[21:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> god i just want it to install a desktop
[21:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> Debian is not this difficult
[21:28] <pavlos> during install it uses packages but at the end it removes some that are not needed
[21:36] <Eryn_1983_FL> weird.
[21:36] <Eryn_1983_FL> its installing now
[22:05] <Eryn_1983_FL> how can i get into a full screen log like an f1 or something from the install ?
[22:05] <sarnold> try control+alt+f1 or f2 or f3 and so on.. I think there's something useful on one of them
[22:06] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
[22:06] <Eryn_1983_FL> nooo
[22:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> that does my whole desktop
[22:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> im trying to do it in vm
[22:08] <sarnold> you may need to click inside the vm 'window' or something similar to grab the keys
[22:08] <sarnold> or perhaps the VM thingy has a way to send those keys via menu entries?
[22:09] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah i see one for ctrl alt del
[22:09] <oerheks> boot in live mode, to do something like that?
[22:09] <Eryn_1983_FL> and bkspace
[22:09] <Eryn_1983_FL> its virtualbox
[22:13] <Eryn_1983_FL> its been on preparing linux headers for ever.
[22:14] <Eryn_1983_FL> im giving up
[22:16] <Eryn_1983_FL> start from stratch new vdi
[22:36] <ozbrk> hi everyone. My friend has a strange problem on her pc. We tried to open an Team Wiever  session and after that her computer layout seems changed altough settings are correct
[22:37] <ozbrk> How can we reconfigure the keyboard layout for example when she try to press "Ö" the charachter on the screen is "6"
[22:42] <Lumia> XD
[22:43] <Lumia> Is there a way to format this ipod touch via the terminal to change it's file format? So it can be detected??
[22:47] <oerheks> Lumia, interesting idea, but no.
[22:55] <Lumia> What can I do to get it to be recognized?
[22:55] <Lumia> It's not even noticed in dmesg
[22:58] <oerheks> on the desktop it should appear automaticly
[22:58] <irreleph4nt> Is there a way to load & connect bluetooth during boot, so that I can enter the LUKS PW of my root drive via my bluetooth keyboard?
[22:58] <oerheks> on commandline, no idea
[23:01] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/music-player-newipod.html.en
[23:35] <sonicx79> Hello Im try to get a linux os to instill on a hp pavilion dv6000
[23:37] <sonicx79> the problem Im running in to is the resolution not supported and is very  screw you looking
[23:38] <oerheks> if i bing at the specs, GPU: 256MB Nvidia 7200 Go(64MB On Board & 192MB Shared)
[23:38] <oerheks> make sure it has the full 256 ?
[23:38] <jvwjgames> Good evening how do I auto start a VM on Ubuntu 18.04
[23:39] <sonicx79> the dedicated memory can only go up 128 in the bios
[23:40] <oerheks> i would run mate or xubuntu on that.
[23:41] <sonicx79> ok should I run a older or a newer version
[23:45] <oerheks> same?
[23:46] <oerheks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/bionic/daily-live/pending/HEADER.html
[23:47] <oerheks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/bionic/daily-live/current/
[23:48] <sonicx79> sorry if I was confusing I just know sometimes older versions run more smoothly on older Hardware
[23:50] <oerheks> it is older hardware, and desktop effects like gnome3 are slowing down dramaticly
[23:51] <oerheks> a SSD might speed things up.
[23:52] <oerheks> not the load speed, but the access time of 0.0 sec is a breeze
[23:53] <sonicx79> still getting the same problem with video
[23:54] <sonicx79> is there a way to share a pic on here?
[23:55] <oerheks> imgur perhaps
[23:55] <sonicx79> https://imgur.com/a/XEMEZzQ
[23:57] <oerheks> oh, that is serious off..
[23:57] <sonicx79> ya
[23:57] <sonicx79> lol
[23:57] <sarnold> that's nice and busted
[23:59] <sonicx79> I've tried Debian Linux Mint and now xubuntu
[23:59] <dostoyevsky> Hi, I am trying to install jitsi on my ubuntu18 but it seems broken... they use a custom package repository--still, is there a way to query for what versions of the package are available?  I guess if I install a version from two weeks ago it might work..


[04:05] <_unreal_> hello
[05:57] <apw> hello
[21:43] <_unreal_> hello
[21:43] <_unreal_> trying to compile an RTOS kernel
[21:44] <_unreal_> I have this board https://www.armbian.com/tinkerboard/ using armbian, the compiling system is setup to only use ubuntu. https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_Build-Preparation/  this is the build script system.
[21:44] <_unreal_> I'm not sure how to build the RTOS kernel....
[21:45] <_unreal_> I have tried downloading the RT kernel patch but it fails to in clued during the compile setup process