[00:00] <heno> slangasek: should the kubuntu desktop have fairly complete translations in Spanish?
[00:00] <heno> it's not showing up
[00:00] <slangasek> I don't know
[00:00] <slangasek> you're talking post-install?
[00:01] <slangasek> heno: and using the 20081001 image?  (since it was a langpack bug that forced the reroll...)
[00:03] <davmor2> 72% come on
[00:04] <heno> slangasek: yep, the md5sum checks out
[00:04] <heno> it worked fine on the ubuntu install
[00:04] <heno> (in German)
[00:06] <davmor2> heno: re-ask Riddell
[00:06] <heno> Riddell:  should the kubuntu desktop have fairly complete translations in Spanish?
[00:07] <Riddell> heno: I believe all translations are mostly incomplete
[00:07] <Riddell> rosetta didn't import kde languages for no apparant reason and language packs havn't been uploaded since that was supposedly fixed
[00:07] <heno> Riddell: ok, what package should I check for to see if it has at least installed correctly in theory?
[00:08] <Riddell> language-pack-kde-es-base
[00:08] <Riddell> more worryingly is if you start up a new user kde doesn't pick up the system locale, I need to look into that
[00:09] <davmor2> rebooting
[00:12] <davmor2> Yay
[00:14] <davmor2> Right bed I'll pick up again tomorrow night
[00:26] <heno> Riddell, slangasek: it was not installed
[00:28] <slangasek> hmm
[00:28] <slangasek> that's... very strange
[00:29] <heno> no -es packs were installed AFAICS on kubuntu
[00:31] <heno> swapping them now: german kubuntu and spanish ubuntu
[00:35] <Riddell> heno: did you have internet access during the install?
[00:39] <heno> Riddell: I didn't check specifically, but I assume so. The spanish lang packs are on the ubuntu CD, are they on kubuntu?
[00:40] <heno> I used direct ubiquity install, not Live CD mode
[00:40] <Riddell> heno: they are not
[00:40] <Riddell> french and german only on the kubuntu CD now
[00:41] <heno> ah, ok
[00:41] <heno> I'm doing a german kubuntu install now
[00:41] <heno> we'll see if that's better
[00:42] <heno> it should still have pulled it from the net though I guess
[00:42] <heno> I assume the installer logs can tell me if I had net access
[00:55] <heno> ah, there are some German translations in kde now and Spanish in Ubuntu
[00:55] <heno> very incomplete but installed
[00:57] <heno> Riddell, slangasek ^
[00:57] <Riddell> heno: did you have to tell KDE to switch to german or did it pick up the system language?
[00:57] <heno> Riddell: it just worked
[00:58] <heno> Konq has some german bits
[00:59] <heno> I should do a Spanish install with confirmed network for completeness
[01:04] <sbeattie> I just saw language-pack-kde-pt-base get set up in my kubuntu live session install.
[01:05] <sbeattie> (portugese language selection, of course)
[01:07] <heno> sbeattie: that was running it from a Live session (not direct install)?
[01:08] <sbeattie> yes, not a direct install, but installation from within a live session.
[01:15] <sbeattie> hmm, despite that, the menus post-install don't seem to be translated
[01:17] <sbeattie> my shell is definitely got LANG=pt_PT set, though. Wish I knew portugese at all. :-)
[01:18] <sbeattie> I've got the following installed:
[01:18] <sbeattie>
[01:18] <sbeattie>
[01:18] <sbeattie> I'd really like to codify/track how to submit patches to individual
[01:18] <sbeattie> upstreams.  I mentioned this[1] on ubuntu-devel today, and I think it
[01:18] <sbeattie> could be valuable to collect and create language for each policy a given
[01:18] <sbeattie> upstream uses.  On top of that, tracking key people to poke to get
[01:18] <sbeattie> motion on patches would be nice too for the cases were a patch stagnates
[01:18] <sbeattie> even though all the "rules" were followed.
[01:18] <sbeattie>
[01:18] <sbeattie> The OSS Security community started something kind of similar[2],
[01:18] <sbeattie> but it's not even close to being useful for doing contribution work.
[01:19] <sbeattie> I'd prefer to link our information to packages, much like the Vcs tags
[01:19] <sbeattie> were done, but I think we'd be limited by the scope of what we could
[01:19] <sbeattie> describe (e.g. "needs test case" (wine), "needs documentation" (lkml proc
[01:19] <sbeattie> changes), "must be patch against HEAD" (lots), "specific coding style"
[01:19] <sbeattie> (lkml, samba, ...) etc).
[01:19] <sbeattie>
[01:19] <sbeattie> -Kees
[01:19] <sbeattie>
[01:19] <sbeattie> [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-October/026635.html
[01:19] <sbeattie> ack, thpppt
[01:19] <sbeattie> sorry.
[01:19] <heno> hehe
[01:20] <sbeattie> Trying again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53024/
[01:21] <sbeattie> anyway, I've got to run. Back later to poke at dvds.
[01:21] <heno> sbeattie: looks like the install worked ok
[01:21] <heno> just that the lang packs are mostly empty
[01:21] <sbeattie> ah
[01:26] <heno> Hi TheMuso! It'd be great if you could help with some install tests today as well. We've respun desktop CDs and are running a bit tight on time.
[01:26] <heno> there are various alternate and upgrade tests in need of love too
[01:30] <slangasek> heno, sbeattie: so, not yet confirmed that we have a problem with es kubuntu?
[01:30] <TheMuso> heno: Will do.
[01:30] <heno> slangasek: I'm watching it install successfully now
[01:31] <heno> slangasek: the difference is it's now a Live session + install vs. a direct install before
[01:31] <heno> it's not on the CD and I may not have had network
[01:33] <heno> I guess that would be a different bug ...
[01:44] <heno> slangasek: confirmed that the Spanish installation worked this time
[01:44] <heno> that was i386 - I'll try amd64 as well later
[01:44] <Riddell> Nobody expects... the Spanish installation!
[01:47] <slangasek> heno: ok, thanks
[01:48] <slangasek> ubuntu dvd is up, 20081002
[01:50] <slangasek> what needs the most attention now?  Looks like there are no test results for xubuntu desktop yet; is anyone working on those already?
[01:51] <heno> slangasek: cody-somerville said he was
[01:52] <slangasek> ah, did he?  I only saw him say "\o/"
[01:52] <slangasek> :-)
[01:52] <heno> in a different conversation
[01:52] <heno> in a galaxy far away
[01:53] <TheMuso> I can help test xubuntu if desired, and I see one test for amd64 desktop that needs to be completed.
[01:53]  * heno wanders off to sleep (really this time)
[01:54] <slangasek> TheMuso: upgrade testing will also need some attention, if you have resources for that
[01:54] <slangasek> (I don't, at present)
[01:55] <TheMuso> slangasek: Sure. I could never quite work out how to drive update-manager in that instance, but I'll get a VM set up with hardy to test an upgrade.
[02:00] <slangasek> and the ubuntu DVD livefs build clocked in at 1.5h to build, plus another 20 minutes to build the ISO; I would advise Europe not to wait for kubuntu dvd before getting some sleep, since we have at least an hour to go :-)
[02:01] <slangasek> (though we probably lost Europe already anyway? :)
[02:42] <Riddell> Europe still hanging on here
[02:43] <slangasek> is that wise? :)
[02:44] <Riddell> well, I got into reading the new Terry Pratchett book during installs today, and I've not got to the end yet
[02:49] <slangasek> heh :-)
[03:51] <slangasek> kubuntu DVD posted
[03:52] <slangasek> whoever finds the next beta showstopper bug gets scolded for not finding it yesterday >:)
[03:53] <cody-somerville> \o/
[04:38] <Riddell> heno or someone, please test kubuntu dvd amd64 live, it didn't work for me, hopefully just a bad burn
[05:07] <Riddell> otherwise Kubuntu is all good for beta
[07:42] <ara> morning all :-)
[08:32] <davmor2> Hello everybody
[08:32] <davmor2> slangasek: all the images up now?
[08:43] <heno> morning!
[09:03]  * ara goes offline for some minutes to test xubuntu live cd in her own laptop
[09:10]  * heno starts on Ubuntu 386 DVD
[09:10]  * davmor2 will blitz through Xubuntu 64bit
[09:10] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 386 in baz "change to removed files does not conflict" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386
[09:13]  * davmor2 re-installs windows for wubi testing
[09:26] <heno> Riddell: what problem did you have on the kubuntu amd64 dvd Live? Here I'm getting a mangled display
[09:26] <heno> will try safe graphics mode
[09:29] <heno> could be a vbox issue perhaps, I'll try it later on real HW
[09:29] <heno> if anyone else has kubuntu amd64 dvd handy, please try a boot
[09:30] <heno> (safe graphics mode also failed)
[09:33] <davmor2> ara: are you able to drop an audio cd into the xub box?
[09:34] <ara_> davmor2: i haven't tested that, sorry
[09:36] <davmor2> heno: I'll try it on hw after
[09:40]  * davmor2 takes the rest of wubi again
[10:24]  * ara confirms that she hates pulseaudio
[10:29] <mvo> heh :)
[10:34] <davmor2> ara: why?
[10:34] <ara> I updated yesterday my laptod (running intrepid) and the sound didn't work afterwards for: skype, lastfm, and flash videos
[10:35] <ara> I have spent 2h this morning trying to get that back up
[10:35] <ara> solution: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio; sudo apt-get install esound
[10:35] <ara> and everything back to normal
[10:35] <davmor2> ara: there is a lastfm plugin in rhythmbox
[10:38]  * heno ticks off some Ubuntu dvd 64bit tests
[10:39] <davmor2> heno: do you want all the wubi tests testing on xp and vista again or will just xp do (same for m-a)
[10:40] <heno> davmor2: just xp is fine
[10:40]  * liw wakes up
[10:40] <davmor2> cool
[10:41] <heno> wubi itself should not have changed, though I guess a new livefs could impact wubi (but not the part that runs in Windows)
[10:46] <sbeattie> ara: are you running i386 or amd64?
[10:46] <ara> sbeattie: i386
[10:47] <sbeattie> ah, hunh. dunno then. :-)
[10:50] <davmor2> ara: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4526648&postcount=9 and 10
[10:51] <liw> rsync has finished -- is there anything in particular that would be good to test?
[10:51] <davmor2> but you are ofcourse right pulse was meant to make this all easier not harder :)
[10:51] <ara> davmor2: "However, this breaks Adobe Flash 9 completely. Choose what you need..."
[10:52] <ara> removing pulseaudio and installing esound did solve the issue
[10:53] <liw> there's four upgrade tests that haven't even been started -- I'll start on the ubuntu server amd64 one
[10:54] <heno> I'm doing the edubuntu 64 bit upgrade
[11:05] <ara> I am doing edubuntu i386
[11:08]  * ara steps out to buy some more blank cds
[11:12] <davmor2> ara: Wow I'm jealous I have to walk all the way up town to buy cd's and you have a cd shop outside of you door :)
[11:14] <heno> did anyone manage to boot the amd64 kubuntu dvd live session?
[11:14] <heno> in virtualbox it's borked
[11:15]  * heno grabs a dvd to burn it
[11:15] <davmor2> heno: I'm on the last xubuntu install and then I'll do it about 10 minutes
[11:17]  * liw recommends dvd-rw's (+rw's?)
[11:17] <heno> thanks. checking the image integrity now
[11:18] <davmor2> liw +rw is better don't need to do a full format each time :)
[11:25] <ara> davmor2: nice thing being in the city centre :-)
[11:26] <davmor2> ara: to be fair I'm only about a 5 minute walk :)
[11:29] <heno> the physical kubuntu dvd 64bit starts fine
[11:29] <heno> integrity check was fine too
[11:30] <davmor2> heno: have you run memtest from the cd's at all
[11:30] <heno> Riddell: was your boot failure in a VM as well?
[11:30] <heno> davmor2: no
[11:31] <heno> davmor2: to test the memtest functionality you mean?
[11:31] <davmor2> yes it was failing before I'll try in a second
[11:33] <liw> some days things don't go my way... read a blog entry in liferea, liferea crashes; restart liferea, decide to comment on said blog entry, open it up in a browser, click "post comment", click "openid", browser crashes; repeat, browser crashes again; switch to another browser, comment successfully; then add link to that entry's comments to liferea, liferea crashes _again_ *sigh*
[11:34] <liw> good thing the upgrade test is going well :)
[11:37] <davmor2> Yay memtest works :)
[11:38] <davmor2> sbeattie: memtest seems to be working now :)
[11:38]  * liw takes on xubuntu amd64 upgrade
[11:39] <davmor2> burning dvd
[11:41] <sbeattie> davmor2: yay! AFAIK, we papered over the actual compiler problem...
[11:41] <davmor2> cool
[11:46]  * davmor2 hopes that's all the wubi and m-a tests done now
[11:48]  * heno does edubuntu i386 upgrade
[11:51]  * davmor2 tests kub dvd
[11:54] <ara> heno: I am doing that now, you can go for another one
[11:55] <heno> ara: ah, ok cool
[11:55]  * davmor2 has a look to see what is left
[11:56] <liw> is anyone doing edubuntu amd64 upgrade?
[11:56] <ara> I think heno did
[11:57] <heno> liw: I'm just starting it actually - I needed to stop for a bit to do a physical test on that box
[11:57] <liw> then all the completely untested ones are in progress
[11:58] <heno> I'll convert the 386 edu upgrade test to a larger overloaded upgrade test
[11:58] <heno> taking advantage of he morning bandwidth :)
[11:59] <davmor2> heno: I been thinking about that too.  Are the images built on one machine and then upload to the local machines?  If so that could explain crap bandwidth issues why the re-rolls are being done
[12:05]  * davmor2 takes Ubuntu amd64 alt
[12:10] <ara> my i386 edu upgrade test is upgrading 1228 packages :-)
[12:19]  * heno waits to see his upgrade package count
[12:20] <heno> only 994 packages :)
[12:24] <Riddell> heno: my test was on real hardware
[12:24] <heno> ok, well that worked here anyway
[12:28] <davmor2> I just noticed I missed ticking of auto resize on xubuntu alt from yesterday D'oh
[12:29] <davmor2> build list is looking happier now \0/
[12:33]  * persia starts the download for the Ubuntu DVD amd64 Install (debian-installer) test
[12:44] <davmor2> heno: we at the passing stage yet or does it all need to be green :)
[12:45] <heno> davmor2: I think we are into bonus territory :)
[12:46] <davmor2> \o/
[12:50] <davmor2> God the dvd install is slow :(
[12:55] <persia> davmor2: Which case are you doing?  I'll switch (when the download completes) to get more coverage.
[12:55]  * ara -> lunch
[12:55] <davmor2> ubuntu alt 64 and kubuntu dvd 64
[12:56] <davmor2> persia ^
[12:56] <persia> davmor2: OK.  I was planning Ubuntu DVD (d-i), so no conflict :)
[12:56] <davmor2> cool :)
[13:11] <stgraber> anyone doing ubuntu alternate amd64 - ltsp ?
[13:12] <stgraber> otherwise I'll do it as soon as I'm out of meeting (2 hours)
[13:33] <davmor2> stgraber: I'll gladly leave that one to you sir
[13:34] <liw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/DesktopUpgrade and other pages say to run "sudo update-manager -d -c", the "sudo" is unnecessary, does someone have the ability to do a search/replace?
[13:35] <stgraber> davmor2: ok, starting it now, it'll install during my meeting :)
[13:36] <davmor2> liw: why is sudo unnecessary it a key root function surely?
[13:37] <liw> davmor2, mvo can explain it better, but I assume it is because update-manager switches to root when necessary itself (policykit?)
[13:38] <davmor2> liw: ah right yes for hardy it might but for older version it doesn't
[13:39] <liw> mvo, is that true?
[13:41] <mvo> I can't remember when, but hardy for sure has support to run update-manager as user. it will prompt for a password when it needs it
[13:41] <mvo> the regular update-manager we run as user too
[13:41] <mvo> (still uses gksu thought, not policykit)
[13:44] <davmor2> modified let me know if you see it anywhere else :)
[13:58] <sbc> is alpha 6 the latest 8.10 image? If so, when is the next image comming out?
[13:59] <davmor2> some time soon
[14:00] <sbc> davmor2:  Is that before or after Friday (tomorrow) ?
[14:00] <davmor2> pass it depend when the RM says it's a go
[14:01] <sbc> ok, ill wait a bit then. Thank you.
[14:07] <ara> I updated bug 276657 with the xubuntu results. it does not look too good :-(
[14:07] <liw> I don't seem to have an Examples folder in my Xubuntu home/desktop, where should it be?
[14:09] <charlie-tca> liw: Xubuntu does not include the Examples folder
[14:10] <liw> right, so I can't follow the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/DesktopUpgrade script
[14:13] <davmor2> liw: It's a general doc rather than specific the specific ones are at the bottom of the screen :)
[14:14] <liw> davmor2, yeah, but it's confusing for a test monkey like me to have to think
[14:14]  * davmor2 slaps liw to see if it helps ;)
[14:14]  * liw eats a bananana
[14:14]  * heno afk
[14:15] <liw> ok, the xubuntu amd64 upgrade test is finally done
[14:15] <luca__> hi everyone
[14:15] <luca__> could someone please help me set up an Intrepid live usb?
[14:16] <davmor2> liw: to be honest that is a older doc the new ones are being created on our own wiki and will be correct :)
[14:17] <ara> edubuntu i386 upgrade went ok as well (> 1000 packages)
[14:22] <davmor2> kub dvd 64bit complete \o/
[14:23] <davmor2> with stgraber doing ltsp on ubuntu 64bit alt and me doing expert now that's complete too
[14:24]  * davmor2 I'm going to start hitting the remaining kubuntu alt tests
[14:26] <liw> anyone working on Ubuntu Alternate amd64 expert?
[14:26] <davmor2> liw me now
[14:26] <liw> ah yes
[14:27] <liw> Ubuntu DVD amd64 seems to have a couple missing tests, I'll tackle those
[14:28] <davmor2> cool
[14:31] <persia> liw: I'm *almost* done with the download for the (debian-installer) test, if you wouldn't mind hitting the other one first.
[14:31] <liw> persia, I'm doing both in parallel, but don't let that stop you :)
[14:31]  * persia wants liw's HW
[14:32] <liw> kvm is luverly :)
[14:32] <liw> kvm + several gigs of memory is especially luverly
[14:32] <davmor2> meh I do things in parallel all the time I have 2 machines for testing though
[14:32] <persia> I tend to get massive I/O swapping when I use more than 1 KVM session, so I think the several gigs of memory is the missing bit :)
[14:33] <liw> persia, yeah, I warmly recommend maxing out your memory slots
[14:34] <persia> Unfortunately, that's done: all my KVM-capable hardware is in form factors with limited slots :(
[14:34] <liw> I sympathise
[14:42] <davmor2> guys we might have re-spins on all the Xubuntu cd's
[14:43] <slangasek> heno: "bonus territory" - you don't want full matrix coverage for beta?
[14:44] <liw> davmor2, if it helps, I can probably do several of those tests
[14:44] <liw> davmor2, assuming testing under kvm helps
[14:45] <davmor2> liw: pass just waiting to find out if we are or not.
[14:45] <davmor2> slangasek: how long till noon your time?
[14:46] <liw> it should abe 06:46 where he is, so about five hours until his noon
[14:47] <heno> slangasek: I do, but there are some tests like expert and rescue that I'm not too worried about covering everywhere. When we are low on time we should hit the highest impact cases first
[14:47] <heno> stgraber: it's not possible to remove certain cases from certain ISOs, right?
[14:54] <slangasek> davmor2: I never said I was targeting noon my time, for the record :)
[14:55] <davmor2> I saw on #u-dev :)
[14:55] <slangasek> heno: ok, that's fair.  What else are people still working on testing?
[14:56] <davmor2> ubuntu 64 expert and kub alt 32 resize
[14:56] <heno> it was noon UK time AFAIR :)
[14:56] <davmor2> well that's gone :(
[14:56] <slangasek> yes
[14:58] <davmor2> right be back in half hourish
[14:58] <persia> I'm not done with my list, but if there's sufficient coverage, I can add the results later.
[14:59] <persia> (unless there are new dailies being pushed at the moment of the beta release)
[15:00] <slangasek> persia: what's on your list?
[15:00] <liw> ouch, pressing alt-f4 to get to the virtual machine's virtual console 4 was not a good idea when the focus wasn't grabbed by the window
[15:00] <slangasek> (no, I won't push new dailies today)
[15:01] <persia> Ubuntu 64bit DVD Debian-installer, some more Ubuntu Studio coverage, and looking for missing cases.
[15:01] <slangasek> ok
[15:02] <liw> persia, if you're doing the ubuntu dvd 64-bit d-i one, I might just as well not re-start it... since that's the one I managed to accidentally kill just now
[15:02] <persia> heh.  What luck :)
[15:03] <liw> oh, henrik already did that :)
[15:04] <liw> there's not a lot of cases left, and I think everything has someone working on them, am I right?
[15:09] <persia> Who has Ubuntu amd64 alternate LTSP ?
[15:11] <liw> persia, stgraber I think: "<davmor2> with stgraber doing ltsp on ubuntu 64bit alt and me doing expert now that's complete too"
[15:12] <persia> So it's just the Kubuntu tests remaining?
[15:13] <luca__> tested ubuntu 64-bit live usb \o/
[15:13] <luca__> where should I report?
[15:13] <luca__> sorry dumb question
[15:14] <liw> persia, yeah, but I thought they were under progress, too, hmm
[15:15]  * persia will download some Kubuntu after the current meeting if they aren't claimed first
[15:21] <liw> I will go out to get some foodstuffs; I can continue testing when I get back (about 15 mins), if there's stuff that isn't being tested yet
[15:21]  * pedro_ testing kubuntu i386
[15:42] <davmor2> Back
[15:44] <persia> Downloads just seem to keep getting slower.  I'm guessing people are excited, and pulling the images pre-beta.
[15:47]  * davmor2 I'll take Kubuntu 64 alt then
[15:52] <stgraber> heno: no, you can't but you can add the request to the wikipage and I'll do that before RC
[15:53] <heno> stgraber: cool :)
[15:56] <davmor2> kub alt 64 encrypted and whole partition on there way
[16:03] <liw> davmor2, are you keeping track of who's doing what and what's not being done?
[16:04] <davmor2> I think kub 32bit needs love as do one of the kub dvd 2 ticks
[16:05] <davmor2> stgraber: are you doing the ltsp on both ubuntu's?
[16:05] <davmor2> pedro_: kubuntu i386 alt is that?
[16:06] <pedro_> davmor2: i was doing kubuntu desktop but i can give some love to the alt also
[16:07] <stgraber> davmor2: no, I'm doing amd64
[16:07] <stgraber> and it failed
[16:07]  * liw takes on Kubuntu DVD i386
[16:08] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/53211/
[16:08] <davmor2> pedro_: liw: in that case there is ltsp 32bit ubuntu,  2 on kub alt 32 bit, 2 on i386 kub dvd, 3 on kub 64bit desktop
[16:09] <davmor2> I can 32bit alt or the dvd if you guys want to take the others
[16:10] <davmor2> i can do even
[16:10] <davmor2> take you picks
[16:10] <liw> I just started on the kubuntu i386 dvd, but I can easily switch to something else
[16:11] <davmor2> liw: that fine
[16:11] <davmor2> pedro_: can you take amd64 desktop or do you still want to tackle 32bit alt?
[16:12] <pedro_> davmor2: i can't do amd64 don't have a hw for that, i'll take the 32bit alt
[16:12] <davmor2> and I'll take the 64bit then :) yay sorted :)
[16:12] <pedro_> woohoo
[16:20] <davmor2> 1 left on current and starts on 64bit
[16:21] <davmor2> slangasek: do you want ltsp testing on 32bit it failed for stgraber on 64bit?
[16:23]  * ara starts doing kubuntu i386 alt entire disk
[16:27] <slangasek> davmor2: which image is the ltsp test case under?
[16:27] <davmor2> sorry ara I hadn't seen you were still online :( Fail on my behalf
[16:27] <davmor2> slangasek: Ubuntu alt 32 and 64bit
[16:30] <ara> davmor2: what do you mean?
[16:30] <davmor2> I forgot you when we were sorting out cases remaining sorry :)
[16:31] <slangasek> davmor2: hmm, there's no failure reported for ltsp on 64bit according to the tracker?
[16:32] <davmor2> stgraber: ^
[16:32] <davmor2> slangasek: (16:07:07) stgraber: davmor2: no, I'm doing amd64
[16:32] <davmor2> (16:07:23) stgraber: and it failed
[16:32] <sbeattie> slangasek: this is what he pastebin'd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53211/
[16:33] <slangasek> hrm
[16:33] <slangasek> that doesn't make sense unless either he was using a stale ISO, or we botched the reroll
[16:34] <slangasek> well, or if LTSP is doing something special to apt :/
[16:35] <davmor2> slangasek: I can double check for you but not till the kubuntu's are out of the way
[16:35] <slangasek> a double-check would be nice, I think
[16:36] <davmor2> don't let it stop you releasing though ;)
[16:37] <persia> Isn't that file:/// issue the one mvo was discussing earlier on -devel?
[16:37] <stgraber> slangasek: not yet
[16:37] <persia> Missing because the uncompressed files are absent?
[16:37] <stgraber> slangasek: see #ubuntu-devel
[16:38] <slangasek> persia: except that's a warning, not an error
[16:39] <davmor2> stgraber: slangasek: right I'm burning 32bit Ubuntu alt to test this then
[16:47] <davmor2> and another one bites the dust
[16:55] <davmor2> slangasek: run ltsp now
[16:57] <davmor2> running even
[17:13] <heno> back (finally)
[17:13]  * heno takes some kub alt i386 tests
[17:14] <davmor2> slangasek: Fail on 32bit too for ltsp
[17:14] <slangasek> davmor2: ok
[17:16]  * pedro_ finished kubuntu expert install
[17:16] <sbeattie> hrm, apt-cdrom in hardy is having trouble adding the kubuntu intrepid dvd.
[17:21] <davmor2> just resize to go on kubuntu desktop 64 as long as this oem plays nice
[17:26] <davmor2> stgraber: is there a bug for the ltsp error I think you got more idea about what is going on with than I have :)
[17:38] <davmor2> last test installing now
[17:38]  * heno hugs davmor2
[17:39] <davmor2> liw: how are the dvd test going
[17:42] <liw> davmor2, it's now again progressing, I had to take a phone call, which turned out to be long
[17:42] <liw> should be finished soon
[17:42] <davmor2> cool :)
[17:46] <liw> hm, konqueror shows images badly, with monochrome colors and vertical white stripes
[17:47] <davmor2> liw: might be a kvm quirk they've been fine on hw.  What link you looking at?
[17:47] <liw> ubuntu.com
[17:47] <davmor2> I'll double check it once this install finishes
[17:48] <davmor2> 68% come on
[17:50] <liw> ok, this is embarrassing: how does one install a package in adept? I can search and get a list of packages on the right, but how do I mark one for installation?
[17:52] <davmor2> click on the box beside the package
[17:52] <liw> that just toggles the long description on and off
[17:53] <davmor2> oh sorry hang on I need to see it
[17:53] <davmor2> 94 % won't be a second
[17:53] <davmor2> famous last words
[17:56] <davmor2> restart
[18:00] <davmor2> liw: fetching list
[18:02] <davmor2> liw: click on the extend and at the bottom of the description it says install this package ;)
[18:03] <liw> it does?
[18:03] <liw> oh yeah, I have to scroll to see that
[18:03] <davmor2> :)
[18:03] <liw> (I see that KDE also has not figured out how to place and size windows properly)
[18:04] <davmor2> konqueror is fine on hw
[18:05] <liw> davmor2, good, then I won't worry about it under kvm
[18:08] <liw> hrmph, I have to scroll by clicking on the scroll bar's down arrow, can't scrol with the scroll wheel, otherwise it scrolls so much that I don't get to see the "install this" button
[18:08] <davmor2> Yay finished :)
[18:08]  * davmor2 dances badly around the room with happiness :)
[18:09] <persia> \o/ \o/ \o/
[18:09] <liw> is everyone now waiting for me?
[18:09] <davmor2> Yeap, No pressure Dude :)
[18:09] <liw> seems so
[18:09] <liw> no worries, I can gripe about bad user interfaces all night long ;-)
[18:09] <davmor2> tea time
[18:10] <davmor2> liw: SSSSSHHHHH did it install ?
[18:11] <liw> davmor2, patience, :)
[18:11]  * davmor2 gets big hammer ready ;)
[18:11] <liw> firefox shows the images properly, so it's just konq that has a problem, but let's assume that's due to kvm
[18:13] <tomjon> yo
[18:15] <stgraber> davmor2: well, I'm not sure what's the bug, that can be apt or ltsp-build-client, you should ask ogra maybe he's filed one.
[18:16] <liw> interestingly, konq shows pictures badly on ubuntu.com, but not on kubuntu.org
[18:17] <liw> davmor2, completed both of my tests
[18:33]  * liw looks admiringly at the long list of green
[18:34] <slangasek> hrrm, has anyone reproduced ara's last comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/276657/comments/10 ?
[18:34] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 276657 in ubiquity "Main menu is still in English after installation from LiveCD" [Critical,Fix released]
[18:35] <slangasek> doesn't seem possible that it's the same bug...
[18:36] <liw> am I blind or is that comment page missing a link to the full bug discussion?
[18:37] <slangasek> seems so
[18:37]  * liw will file a bug about that
[18:37] <sbeattie> liw: I cannot comment on your (in)ability to see, but yes, individual comments don't contain links back to the bug, unfortunately.
[18:38] <liw> slangasek, should someone try to reproduce that in kvm?
[18:40] <liw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/78565 -- it's reported already
[18:40] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 78565 in malone "no direct link from bug comment page to corresponding bug" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:40] <slangasek> liw: I don't think it needs a special effort, just wondering if anyone's run into it
[18:40] <liw> slangasek, ok, in that case I say I haven't run into it
[19:01] <davmor2> slangasek: Before I sod off for the night is that it is beat being released now?
[19:01] <slangasek> yes, as soon as I finish dotting everything
[19:02] <davmor2> slangasek: I think it is thrown out by the extended text
[19:02] <davmor2> ara's xubuntu bug
[19:03] <davmor2> Yay \o/ see you all tomorrow :)
[19:18] <sbeattie> why on earth does the kubuntu dvd have linux-image-debug-2.6.25 debs on it?
[19:24] <persia> Leftovers from the kernel packaging split, and issues with linux-ports-meta not yet accepted.
[19:25] <persia> Can't be fixed easily now, but it's of great interest to the archive-admins.
[19:27]  * sbeattie remains unenlightened.
[19:30] <persia> OK, so there was a decision to split the kernel maintenance into three: one for amd64+i386, one for lpia, and one for everything else.
[19:30] <persia> As a result, there are three sets of source packages, and three sets of binary packages.
[19:30] <persia> There are also some leftovers from the kernel packaging (2.6.25) done before the split.
[19:31] <persia> The leftovers can't be removed yet, because the new metapackage for some of the architectures hasn't been uploaded to intrepid yet, and it would break things in odd ways.
[19:32] <persia> Once the metapackage is uploaded and accepted, it should provide architecture-specific hints, so the older kernels and stuff can be dropped from i386, amd64, and lpia.
[19:32] <persia> One that happens, they should drop from the DVDs, which otherwise contain almost everything in main.
[19:33] <sbeattie> persia: hrm, okay. Is there a reason we're not providing debug packages for the post-split kernels?
[19:34] <persia> I don't know the answer to that question.  Sorry.  You might ask in #ubuntu-kernel.
[19:38] <sbeattie> yay, I just saved 2 hours of downloading time. It only took me, uh, two hours to do it.
[20:30] <hecklerusa> hello
[20:31] <hecklerusa> my windows lag when appearanetce is set to normal help
[20:42] <charles> hello
[21:17] <slangasek> and beta is out - thanks to everyone for their help in testing :)
[21:19] <liw> slangasek, so now is a good time to start pestering you with exceptions? O:-)
[21:20] <slangasek> heh
[21:20] <slangasek> now is a good time for me to go back to bed, I think ;)
[21:20] <liw> sweet dreams :)
[21:21] <slangasek> didn't say I was going to /make/ it to bed... :)
[21:21] <liw> :-)
[21:22] <liw> (I've filed one sync request, and will file an exception request for system-cleaner tomorrow)
[21:56] <lordnoid> intrepid beta: make guest session, switch user to normal user, switch back to guest, logout guest.. theres still 'guest' in the menu.. clicking it makes it crash.
[21:58] <lordnoid> so... should i report this at launchpad?
[22:00] <persia> lordnoid: Yes please.
[22:00] <lordnoid> ok
[22:52]  * rupprich is away: wesch
[22:53]  * rupprich is away: Gone away for now.
[22:53]  * rupprich is away: Gone away for now.
[22:53] <rupprich> fuck
[22:53]  * rupprich is back.


[06:49] <waykool99> (pink floyd) hello hello hello, is there anybody out their?
[06:49] <waykool99> okies
[11:10] <pophorn> how can i get the midi signal ? could someone knows a page about it ??
[18:44] <studio-user660> !list


[00:07] <knome> see you all later (will be around for a while tomorrow, then back on sat for a while, and eventually on mon for good for now)
[00:07] <knome> ->
[06:16] <ochosi> all the mir testing has quite some momentum it seems
[06:16] <ochosi> we were even featured on phoronix for that
[06:20] <elfy> ochosi: I'm just really confused as to how I've seeded somewhere in the region of about 70 copies and we've had about 20 people report lol
[06:21] <ochosi> that's actually quite an ok return rate
[06:22] <ochosi> e.g. when sending out questionnaires
[06:24] <elfy> well - that assumes that I'm the only one seeding :)
[06:25] <ochosi> yeah, but generally speaking a 10% return rate is still fine
[06:26] <pleia2> yep
[07:19] <Noskcaj> I've just packaged xfce4-settings 4.11.0, but i doubt debian will take it in time for saucy. do we want to MOTU it?
[07:23] <Noskcaj> micahg, i think you're the one to answer. ^
[07:31] <ochosi> Noskcaj: nice! that'd be the new display dialog then
[07:32] <Noskcaj> I'm just about to lintian clean it then i'll see if it will work in xubuntu.
[07:32]  * Noskcaj hates SVN and git.
[07:41] <ochosi> haven't used svn, but i have to say i like git
[08:02] <Noskcaj> debian version is on mentors, i'll start making an ubuntu version
[08:25] <lderan> cool
[08:58] <Noskcaj> There, it's all ready. what files should i upload where?
[09:36] <knome> just posted http://open.knome.fi/2013/08/07/dont-panic-the-state-of-xubuntu-and-mir/
[09:38] <ochosi> nice post
[09:39] <knome> ta
[09:39] <knome> and thanks to pleia2 and skellat giving feedback yesterday on a short notice
[09:40] <knome> and don't get surprised if your comment doesn't get through. i've enabled moderation for all comments for now
[09:41] <knome> (mostly because i'm going to be away from the computer until fri/sat)
[10:22] <knome> bluesabre, community-approved MP 177959
[10:23] <knome> ochosi, sorry for not getting to work on the various icons and other stuff i've promised to do
[10:23] <knome> ochosi, once i get back home, i will force myself to do that :)
[10:30] <ochosi> knome: sure, no worries. i know it's summer and *hot*
[10:30] <ochosi> (approaching 40° in austria today, new heat record since the weather is being measured/recorded)
[10:30] <knome> ugh!
[10:46] <knome> ok, i'm off until fri/sat
[10:46] <knome> have fun!
[10:46] <ochosi> you too!
[10:46] <ochosi> seeya
[10:52] <smartboyhw> ochosi, how did you manage to compile the Xubuntu with XMir ISO actually? Or is it bluesabre?
[10:53] <ochosi> smartboyhw: i wasn't involved in creating the iso, better ask Unit193
[10:53] <smartboyhw> ochosi, OK
[10:53] <smartboyhw> Unit193, ^
[13:38] <cub> (j #xfce
[13:38] <ochosi> :)
[13:39] <theghost> Hi, I have a problem with Xubuntu 13.04 and 13.10. I use lightdm with autologin and want my gnome-keyring unlocked but it does not work. Gnome compab is activated. It's working perfectly if I logout and re-login but not with autologin. Where's the trick ?
[13:40] <ochosi> theghost: this is the development channel, for support you can check #xubuntu
[13:41] <theghost> @ochosi ok
[13:41] <meetingology> theghost: Error: "ochosi" is not a valid command.
[16:39] <pleia2> http://www.mylinuxrig.com/post/57612670230/my-return-to-xubuntu-a-review
[16:40] <pleia2> knome: posted to g+ & fb
[16:50] <mhall119> pleia2: are you guys actually getting haters just for evaluating XMir?
[16:50] <pleia2> mhall119: yes
[16:51] <mhall119> wow :(
[16:51] <mhall119> let me know if there's anything I can do from the community team's side
[16:51] <mhall119> also let me know if you need me to annoy somebody in Canonical for you, regarding Mir itself
[16:51] <pleia2> the public comments have been the most tame, long emails of FUD that when pressed say "well of course I didn't try it"
[16:51] <pleia2> privately to me, less tame
[16:51] <mhall119> :(
[16:52] <pleia2> jono got us hooked up with some Mir devs, they're being awesome about prioritizing our bugs :)
[16:52] <mhall119> well then let me state publicly that you guys are awesome, always have been, and I'm sure you will do what is right for Xubuntu
[16:53] <pleia2> thanks mhall119!
[16:56] <mhall119> where are bugs being filed?
[16:56] <mhall119> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir ?
[17:00] <elfy> mhall119: that's where I filed mine
[17:01] <elfy> and I'm pretty sure the others have been there as well
[17:01] <pleia2> yeah, then we follow up with devs when we collect some critical ones, ie https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-August/009219.html
[17:04] <mhall119> are you guys using a specific tag for bugs found in Xubuntu?
[17:04] <pleia2> I don't think so
[17:05] <elfy> mhall119: I didn't, but then again we're not completely sure they are JUST xubuntu - opnly that we know we found them
[17:05] <mhall119> it might help, that way you could easily get a list of bugs that are known to affect Xubuntu and what their status is
[17:07] <mhall119> it could help you come decision time, you can see what's fixed and what isn't, but also how well we've been doing with fixing them
[17:08] <elfy> mhall119: I agree with the first part
[17:08] <elfy> the second is kind of not :)
[17:08] <elfy> at least not in relation to 13.10
[17:08] <skellat> pleia2: What are the purveyors of FUD expecting?  Some inter-dimensional rift will open up and spew out Lovecraftian creatures if they try XMir?  :-)  Change is difficult even with the slow, pragmatic approach we're taking.  There is an unavoidable friction gradient but to go to such venomous levels is not cool.
[17:09] <elfy> people tend not to be if they aren't there with you
[17:09] <pleia2> skellat: I don't think logic plays into it here, just fear :)
[17:09] <mhall119> skellat: we're actively working on fixing the Cthuhlu leak
[17:09] <skellat> mhall119: +!
[17:09] <skellat> mhall119: +1
[17:09] <pleia2> it also doesn't make sense that we would seek to releaes an OS that doesn't work for most people (or that after years of trusting us, all of a sudden we're stupid sellouts who will ruin the OS)
[17:10] <skellat> pleia2: Quite a number of changes have come very fast for people to digest in 2013.  People may still be caught up in the backwash from that even though Xubuntu wasn't really affected.
[17:11] <skellat> i.e. The virtual UDS shift, the rolling release debate, the Mir launch, the drive to get the phone out, etc.
[17:11] <pleia2> yeah, that was all handled poorly, I'm still not thrilled about it, but it's time to move on
[17:12] <mhall119> +1
[17:12] <skellat> pleia2: I know that, you know that.  Moving on is a very difficult thing for far too many people, though.  That's what we're dealing with still.
[17:12] <pleia2> skellat: *nod*
[17:14] <skellat> mhall119: That's an area where the community team can help, to an extent.  People holding onto adverse moments and not letting go helped deplete the ranks of Ubuntu Ohio quite a bit.  Helping people move forward while recognizing that there is some ill/bad will floating around that needs resolution is gonna be needed one of these days.
[17:17] <skellat> We've seen it pile up in other areas beside my local bailiwick and the XMir case.
[17:17] <mhall119> skellat: I agree, unfortunately I'm not sure how to get people to let go and move on
[17:17] <mhall119> oddly enough, telling them to let go and move on doesn't usually work :)
[17:17] <elfy> not sure there is a way to be honest
[17:18] <skellat> mhall119: Locally knocking heads works wonderfully with the politicians
[17:18] <skellat> :-)
[17:18]  * elfy has more than enough experience of those people
[17:18] <mhall119> we've been actively pushing changes internally so that we don't make the same mistakes again, and hope that over time we can re-build the lost trust and good will
[17:18] <elfy> not sure there's much the cc can do about it either
[17:18] <skellat> mhall119: Internal change is good but it has to be expressed outwardly
[17:19] <skellat> Sometimes Mr. Shuttleworth is the worst possible person to express such, though
[17:19] <elfy> mhall119: time heals most things eventually for most people - you'll never gain back some, but ...
[17:19] <mhall119> skellat: not much I can do there :)
[17:20] <skellat> I know
[17:21] <skellat> A few good centering statements setting the scene as to where the project stands, where things are going, and the like can do wonders to help at least letting people know where things stand.  Doing that before vUDS-1308 can be useful.
[17:22] <skellat> But alas, we're far afield from XMir now
[17:23]  * skellat really has to stop doing back room lobbying of politicians
[17:24] <elfy> no reason to stop - just do it in -offtopic ;)
[17:24] <skellat> elfy: No, I've been doing it in real life/meat space
[17:24] <mhall119> or #ubuntu-community-team, where it's ontopic
[17:24] <skellat> mhall119 is definitely not a politician
[17:24] <elfy> not seen anythign about the next vuds anywhere
[17:25] <ochosi> wait, "meat space"? you mean a butchery?
[17:25] <skellat> :-D
[17:25] <ochosi> the phrase "those bloody politicians" gains a new perspective...
[17:26] <ochosi> slowly but surely i'm really really looking forward to the day we'll use gtk3
[17:26] <ochosi> hidpi support and all that jazz...
[17:28] <mhall119> skellat: no, I'm too practical and introverted to be a politician
[17:28] <mhall119> elfy: next vUDS is later this month
[17:28] <mhall119> http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[17:28] <mhall119> if you want new BP's for it you can start filing them now
[17:29] <mhall119> though I expect most will just follow-up on last vUDS's BP getting ready for 13.10
[17:29] <elfy> yea
[18:11] <Unit193> pleia2: Dang, sorry about that mail, bummer you got it. :/
[18:28] <xubuntu-mir353> hi everyone
[18:28] <Unit193> Howdy.
[18:28] <xubuntu-mir353> can i post here unity system compositor log
[18:29] <xubuntu-mir353> xmir doesn-t start
[18:29] <Unit193> Try in http://paste.openstack.org and post the link here, please.
[18:30] <xubuntu-mir353> where can i find similar common problem about xubuntu&xmir
[18:33] <Unit193> Well...
[20:08] <Noskcaj> Does anyone want the ubuntu version od xfce4-settings 4.11 ? I've finished packaging it.
[20:18] <ochosi> Noskcaj: you couldput it in a PPA, but in general it would be nice if we got it in saucy imo
[20:18] <lderan> i can give it a try in a bit :)
[20:18] <Noskcaj> I'll do that now
[20:19] <ochosi> Noskcaj: also, i talked to bluesabre abiut packaging some dev-packages for xfce to make building easier of some components
[20:19] <Noskcaj> cool
[20:20] <ochosi> so if you wanna do more packaging, that'd also be useful
[20:20] <ochosi> or more daily archives for xfce stuff
[20:22] <Noskcaj> As long as i don't have to use SVN or git, i'll keep packaging
[20:22] <lderan> :P
[20:22] <ochosi> well xfce is all in git
[20:23] <lderan> i've only packaged 1 thing so far lol
[20:23] <ochosi> but what would you prefer? bzr?
[20:26] <lderan> if you need a hand with git I could attempt to help :)
[20:26] <Noskcaj> I'm not a fan of version control in general, and have bad experiences with both of the above
[20:26] <Noskcaj> mostly SVN
[20:26] <ochosi> well pretty much all software development happens with some version control software
[20:27] <ochosi> anything else is crazy imo
[20:27] <ochosi> but what's the problem? in the end you use a release tarball anyway, so no need to interact with git or anything
[20:28] <Noskcaj> Mostly that SVM won't let me commit xfce changes, or use the per-user URL
[20:29] <ochosi>  but svn hasnt been used for xfce for years now..?
[20:31] <Noskcaj> sorry, SVN for xfce-debian
[20:32] <Noskcaj> I've not done anything upstream because i don't know any C and that bug tracker is the least informative thing i have ever seen
[20:32] <Noskcaj>  /rant
[20:32] <ochosi> hehe
[20:32] <ochosi> bugzilla takes some getting used to
[20:33] <ochosi> but then it's ok
[20:33] <ochosi> gotta go sleep now, ttyl and kudos for the packaging!
[20:33] <lderan> good night ochosi
[20:33] <Noskcaj> g'night ochosi
[21:27] <Noskcaj> There, the new settings release is now on my ppa. ppa:noskcaj/packaging
[21:31] <lderan> awesome :D
[21:40] <Unit193> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/trunk/changes/918?start_revid=938 from 899-current (938), see anything interesting?
[21:40] <Unit193> I don't see anything worth a re-build.
[23:24] <bluesabre> knome: thanks!
[23:24] <bluesabre> so, now what?
[23:26] <Unit193> Cookies.
[23:26] <bluesabre> Yes.
[23:26] <bluesabre> Actually, already had 3 cookies today :)
[23:40] <micahg> Noskcaj: we don't want 4.11.x releases in Ubuntu yet, need to have a firm 4.12 release schedule before we'd take those


[15:12] <ColinHarrington> Check this app out:  XPlanetFX http://mein-neues-blog.de/xplanetfx/
[15:13] <ColinHarrington> my desktop now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/129843/Screenshot.png
[17:42] <ColinHarrington> Hey have you guys heard about this IBM machine "Watson" thats been rocking Jeopardy?
[17:46] <ColinHarrington> They taught it some Basic Linux commands: http://i.imgur.com/lZd0q.jpg


[00:13] <jelmer> thumper: done
[00:13]  * jelmer -> sleep
[00:13] <thumper> ta
[07:45] <jtv> morning henninge!
[08:26] <jtv> morning danilos
[08:27] <danilos> jtv, good morning
[11:41] <wgrant> noodles785: Hi. Can you be convinced to at some point formally UI review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/diffs-in-queue/+merge/25135? It's the change we discussed yesterday.
[11:54] <noodles785> wgrant: sure... since we've already sat and chatted about it :)
[11:59] <noodles785> wgrant: why not include the "diff from .." in your PackageDiffFormatterAPI so that it's included inside the link?
[12:00] <wgrant> noodles785: Right, I sort of pointed that out yesterday. If you look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcepub/1107215/+listing-archive-extra, you'll see the other place it is used.
[12:01] <wgrant> I'm not sure that the 'diff from' is appropriate there, though I don't really care.
[12:01]  * noodles785 checks.
[15:15] <EdwinGrubbs> sinzui, can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-562486-pending-gpg-keys/+merge/25154
[15:16] <sinzui> yes
[16:36] <gary_poster> rockstar: would you be willing to do a rubber stamp review of a change you already approved for bac?  You approved for production-devel before; now we need it for devel.  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gary/launchpad/loggerheadlogout/+merge/25108
[16:36] <rockstar> gary_poster, rs=me
[16:36] <gary_poster> thanks rockstar
[16:37] <rockstar> gary_poster, no problem.
[16:45] <EdwinGrubbs> bigjools, which branch did you want to have reviewed?
[16:46] <bigjools> EdwinGrubbs: I should not be in the queue, danilos forgot to remove me when he removed my branch yesterday :)
[16:46] <bigjools> s/removed/reviewed/
[16:46] <bigjools> meh
[16:46] <danilos> bigjools, yeah, push the blame onto me for helping you :P
[16:47] <bigjools> lol
[16:47] <bigjools> danilos: you're an awesome guy
[16:52] <noodles785> Hi EdwinGrubbs, will you get a chance to review my branch? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/launchpad/567922-binarypackagebuild-new-table-4/+merge/25138
[16:53] <noodles785> I won't be around much longer though, so if email is an option?
[17:02] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles785, I'll start on it now
[17:06] <danilos> jtv, r=me, but I don't think you really need another approval from Bjorn for a single-line change
[17:06] <jtv> danilos: come to think of it, it's a single-line test change innit
[17:06] <jtv> danilos: should I land the same on devel btw?
[17:06] <danilos> jtv, sure
[17:08] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles785, I get some conflicts when I merge your branch into the latest db-devel.
[17:21] <noodles785> EdwinGrubbs: please see the note on the MP regarding the conflicts. If you want to run the tests, you can branch it directly... is that OK?
[17:23] <noodles785> If not it's no problem, it can wait a few days until I can pump through an up-to-date db-devel and resolve the conflicts.
[17:26] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles785, that's fine, I was just letting you know.
[17:34] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles785, r=me
[17:34] <EdwinGrubbs> sinzui, which branch would you like me to review first?
[17:34] <sinzui> EdwinGrubbs, the css fix will make jtv and mars happy
[17:36] <EdwinGrubbs> sinzui, r=me
[17:36] <sinzui> thanks
[18:17] <EdwinGrubbs> sinzui, registry/browser/tests/project-add-views.txt has an error.
[18:17] <sinzui> oh?
[18:18]  * sinzui is running test
[18:19] <sinzui> yes, it has an error
[18:20]  * sinzui rewrites test for happy from/to addressees and see if that is the real issue
[18:21] <sinzui> ah...two emails
[18:23] <sinzui> EdwinGrubbs, I can update the test to show the two emails, but I think it is duplicating the unittest. The doc test says it is verifying the license info rule, and that was verified a few lines above
[18:28] <sinzui> EdwinGrubbs, This is the diff to include the email to the user and fix the addressee in the email to me: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/432348/
[18:32] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, can I jump on your queue?
[18:36] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, I need to go run some lunch errands, but when you have the bandwidth, here's my proposal: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/launchpad/enable-edge-recipe-builds/+merge/25175
[18:36] <rockstar> (I'm figuring you're at lunch)
[18:59] <EdwinGrubbs> sinzui, yep, that fixes it for me
[18:59] <EdwinGrubbs> rockstar, I'll get to your review later
[19:00] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, okay.  I have it playing in ec2 now so that I know the tests pass.  I need to get this on edge tonight though.
[19:00] <rockstar> (They're demoing it at UDS tomorrow)
[19:01] <EdwinGrubbs> ah
[19:07] <EdwinGrubbs> rockstar, r=me
[19:26] <jtv> danilos: ec2 tests are still running.  Shouldn't be long now, but I don't think I can hold out.
[19:27] <danilos> jtv, sure, just get it CPed in the morning and it's fine (Bjorn has approved it, so do indicate that to spm)
[19:27] <jtv> cool, thanks
[19:27] <jtv> did the loganberry patch fix our generation jobs?
[19:28] <danilos> jtv, I think it did (I've seen it in the log, but then twistd rotated logs and I can't find it anymore)
[19:29] <jtv> Would be really, really nice to know that it did :)
[19:31] <danilos> jtv, it seems the log file for the period is missing
[19:32] <jtv> The computer hates us.
[19:33] <danilos> jtv, 2010-05-12 19:27:34+0100 [-] Starting templates build proba-3443818 for lp:php-gettext/proba.
[19:33] <danilos>  (another try)
[19:34] <danilos> jtv, now if I only knew how to watch the build
[19:34] <jtv> danilos: launchpad.net/builders
[19:34] <danilos> jtv, woohoo, it's working on samarium
[19:35]  * jtv hugs danilos
[19:35] <danilos> jtv, https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/samarium
[19:35] <jtv> Of course my mis-typing it as smarmium doesn't exactly enhance the dignity of this special moment
[19:36]  * danilos hugs jtv back, now if it also gets a branch and produces a POT file it'll be a very special moment for mankind
[19:36] <jtv> danilos: what's the project?
[19:36] <danilos> jtv, php-gettext, I've did it on my project so I can remove the series later :)
[19:36] <danilos> jtv, branch is from libgnomeui
[19:36] <danilos> jtv, build is finished
[19:37] <jtv> danilos: no pots on its queue :(
[19:37] <danilos> jtv, I think it first needs to get to process-upload step
[19:38] <jtv> danilos: no idea how long that takes...
[19:38] <danilos> jtv, something is still not working there
[19:38] <jtv> The buildd-master logs should have more.  However it's bedtime for me!
[19:39]  * jtv sneaks off
[19:41] <danilos> jtv, good night
[19:45] <EdwinGrubbs> sinzui, review sent
[19:47] <sinzui> thanks
[22:35] <thumper> rockstar: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/fix-factory-ids-in-tests/+merge/25037


[14:38] <andru183_> hey all, any talk about release parties yet?
[14:39] <tdr112> andru183_: some talk but nothing pull together
[14:53] <andru183_> czajkowski just made me think about the next one upcoming so we'll be having one in Limerick anyway
[14:53] <andru183_> I'll throw something together with the comp soc
[14:54] <tdr112> not much moment on a Dublin one
[14:56] <mokmeister> Hi Guys
[14:57] <mokmeister> good to hear there'll be a Limerick Jam
[14:57] <mokmeister> I think it's an important one considering 14.04 is a LTS and the state of Windows XP (ie. EOL)
[14:59] <tdr112> mokmeister: two different events
[14:59] <tdr112> bug jam vs release party
[15:00] <tdr112> but no one has said they will run it
[15:01] <mokmeister> oh
[15:02] <mokmeister> joys of coming in halfway through a conversation I suppose! ;)
[15:02] <mokmeister> so I take it there's no news on a bug jam or release party?
[15:04] <mokmeister> I've been using Ubuntu 14.04 on my desktop for more than a month now and it's mostly been a decent experience.
[15:04] <mokmeister> Also using Kubuntu 14.04 on a laptop, pretty good too.
[15:05] <mokmeister> I still have Ubuntu touch on my Nexus 4 as well, lotta bugs need to squashed there! :)
[15:10] <tdr112> I was thinking of trying it on my nexus but I use my phone too much just to try it out
[15:10] <andru183_> mokmeister bug jams have happened before but not since I started college so I'd like to try another one knowing what I know now. It'll be in mind
[15:10] <andru183_> when are they meant to be happening?
[15:13] <tdr112> two weekends from now
[15:14] <tdr112> we had a good time at the last one, lots of testing and chatting
[15:17] <andru183_> hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
[15:17] <mokmeister> Yeah, 4th - 6th April for Jam, ~ April 17th LTS release.
[15:17] <andru183_> I'll see what the reaction is on #skynet
[15:18] <mokmeister> Yeah, I'd love to go along and check it out.
[15:18] <mokmeister> More of a sys admin than programmer, but twould still be interesting.
[15:19] <mokmeister> Ubuntu Touch is still very developmental, but mostly usable.
[15:20] <mokmeister> Haven't lost a single contact or picture since first installing.
[15:20] <mokmeister> And that was back in November I think, image hundred and something I think, now at 250
[15:54] <andru183> :c one day I'll get the hang of screen :p
[15:54] <slashbel> man screen