[12:01] <omegacat> so plz if anybody could help, i would really appreciate it =(
[12:01] <gnomefreak> omegacat: were those questions?
[12:01] <Rasta> someone has installed rails here? i see in synaptic that drapper by default has ruby 1.8.2/1.8.4 but in the terminal i can use it to check version and install the gems, any advice on this?
[12:01] <Xenguy> omegacat: it takes patience; it could just be hardware compatibility issues; does the live cd work for you on this PC?
[12:01] <PFA> has anyone ever used an HP photosmart 7450?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: i think i have that model
[12:02] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  odd.. my emachine laptop did linux very well.. too bad the laptop broke.. you may need to disable that apci, or apic options with 'noapci' 'noapic'
[12:02] <PFA> gnomefreak: did it work well?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: its upstairs atm
[12:02] <gnomefreak> PFA: yes
[12:02] <PFA> gnomefreak: that's good! thanks
[12:02] <gnomefreak> plug in set up and poof
[12:02] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  also may want to google for that specific brand/make laptop and other linux users with same thing. they may have some workarounds
[12:02] <green_earz> takuhii: the 3Com 3c905C   is a very common ether card > example > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3COM-PCI-Network-Card-10-100-NIC-3C905C-TX-M-Tested_W0QQitemZ260035495468QQihZ016QQcategoryZ51195QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[12:03] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:03] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:03] <Boboc3l> hello all
[12:03] <omegacat> Dr_willis i saw that other ppl have the wifi issue but I don't know how to do ndiswrapper things.
[12:03] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  Ive not messed with wireless much at all.. so cant help ya with that.
[12:03] <omegacat> Xenguy I have ubuntu installed on it
[12:04] <skaos> !ndiswrapper
[12:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:04] <omegacat> gnomefreak I have a USB mouse that does not work
[12:04] <takuhii> green_earz: yeah I may take a trip to staples if I can't find any positive information in the ubuntu wiki
[12:04] <omegacat> i plugged it in, and i rebooted
[12:04] <omegacat> and it still does not work
[12:04] <waxfactor2nd> how can i make dual boot with win xp and ubuntu / im a newb
[12:04] <Xenguy> omegacat: right - I just mean that the live CD is a good way to test for hardware compatibility before deciding to do an install
[12:05] <omegacat> Xenguy: heh, is there a diffenernt distro i should use?
[12:05] <takuhii> alright, well the replacement card I have here, it's a netgear FA311, and it says it's supported
[12:06] <takuhii> so we'll see how this goes
[12:06] <takuhii> be back in the time it takes to swap a card
[12:06] <warlock__> p
[12:06] <omegacat> Xenguy: so it just won't work, you think?
[12:06] <Xenguy> omegacat: I've only really ever used Debian and Ubuntu for quite some time
[12:06] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  may want to try out some live cd's
[12:07] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  its possible the ohci/uhci modules are not getting loaded right.
[12:07] <Xenguy> omegacat: I can't say whether your problem can be fixed or not - sorry
[12:07] <Dr_willis> Time to get into trouble shooting mode.
[12:07] <Abst> Anyone know a X config file beginning with options like WINDOWMANAGER_*?
[12:08] <waxfactor2nd> how can i make dual boot with win xp and ubuntu / ive tried first installing windows hdd 0 partition 1 (10gb), then ubuntu /(20gb) , /home(20gb), swap (2gb) and now i get an grub error 22 when i boot / cant get in anything / how can i make it work / im a real newb
[12:08] <omegacat> what will live CDs do that in installing it didnt?
[12:08] <omegacat> I installed from the live CD?
[12:08] <AngryElf> !digital
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about digital - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <AngryElf> !alsa
[12:08] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:08] <AngryElf> !spdif
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spdif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <waxfactor2nd> ...anyone?
[12:08] <LjL> !msg the bot
[12:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[12:09] <totall_6_7> !usb headset
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb headset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <totall_6_7> !usb
[12:09] <green_earz> takuhii: ok
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  try OTHER disrto Live cd's , or IF the ubuntu live cd works..  thats a start in troubleshooting
[12:09] <omegacat> ok
[12:10] <Abst> Anyone know a X config file beginning with options like WINDOWMANAGER_*?
[12:10] <omegacat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[12:10] <minerale> Ok, i'm on a school computer, someone's locked the main screen. I want to start a second x server, and it works fine (by ding X :2) but I can't start any programs, how can I start a second x server and launch firefox in it ?
[12:10] <LjL> Dr_willis: she *installed* from the live cd, i think
[12:10] <omegacat> i have that
[12:10] <omegacat> i don't understand why it doesn't install?
[12:10] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to get digital sound working?
[12:10] <Abst> !cheese
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <thelsdj> is there a default simple way to push windows around the screen with keyboard?
[12:11] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  i rember my Emachind 68010 being a little flakey in some linux areas as well.
[12:11] <waxfactor2nd> anyone who knows the answer...
[12:11] <waxfactor2nd> how can i make dual boot with win xp and ubuntu / ive tried first installing windows hdd 0 partition 1 (10gb), then ubuntu /(20gb) , /home(20gb), swap (2gb) and now i get an grub error 22 when i boot / cant get in anything / how can i make it work / im a real newb
[12:11] <Dr_willis> but i no longer have it.. so i cant help ya a whole lot in the specifics
[12:11] <AngryElf> waxfactor2nd, let the Ubuntu install repartition your HD automatically
[12:11] <skaos> waxfactor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:11] <omegacat> Dr_willis:  6810?
[12:11] <buzzygirl> Hello!
[12:12] <waxfactor2nd> angryelf / how
[12:12] <Abst> !x
[12:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:12] <AngryElf> it's one of the options
[12:12] <waxfactor2nd> ahh sry
[12:12] <waxfactor2nd> thx
[12:12] <Xenguy> thelsdj: try this: Alt-F7 Shift-Up (or Shift-Down)
[12:12] <buzzygirl> Anyone here using Edgy
[12:12] <Dr_willis> omegacat,  somthing like that..  big emachine laptop :)
[12:12] <takuhii> green_earz: the new card totally works, thanks for telling me those commands to see if it was
[12:12] <doopidub> hey guys
[12:13] <thelsdj> Xenguy: nice, thanks!
[12:13] <Xenguy> thelsdj: yw
[12:13] <lampshade> buzzygirl: check out #ubuntu+1  that's for the edgy people
[12:13] <conner> buzzygirl, I'm on edgy.
[12:13] <doopidub> i got write access on my ntfs partition, but i am still not able to delete some files
[12:13] <Xenguy> thelsdj: Shift-right etc. works also
[12:13] <doopidub> do you know this issue?
[12:13] <thelsdj> yep, and enter seems to end
[12:13] <doopidub> i do rm -rf as root
[12:13] <omegacat> Dr_willis Yes! That is what I have =)
[12:14] <Rasta> ok, something weird happened here, in the drapper install i checked in synaptic and i saw ruby installed but it cant be usable until i installed it with aptitude, the same can be happening with other packages?
[12:15] <CountDown> exit
[12:15] <mipstien> i can not get direct rendering turned on... i finally got nvidia drivers to uninstall and reinstall but i can't seem to cause anything to change .... any ideas? would you like to see my xorg.conf?
[12:15] <CountDown> oops
[12:16] <green_earz> takuhii: no problem and all the best for your jourey into the linix world
[12:16] <AngryElf> anyone here know how to troubleshoot digital sound not working?
[12:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> If anyone has write permission problems they should press alt+f2 and type in gksudo nautilus
[12:18] <totall_6_7> thanks Sktfeelsdapper i didnt know about that :D:D
[12:18] <jrib> Sktfeelsdapper: that's not really the best solution
[12:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah I know.
[12:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it worked for me!
[12:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> <---mounted second hd, changed permission, storing files as we speak.
[12:19] <jrib> Sktfeelsdapper: it's probably better to actually fix the permissions when you mount
[12:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> Well I rebooted and such and haven't had problems.
[12:19] <totall_6_7> Sktfeelsdapper: i did the same thing only i went into command prompt and did sudu natilus
[12:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> Eh, I'm sure something will come up.
[12:19] <totall_6_7> exact with the hd
[12:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> But that's what's so fun about Ubuntu.
[12:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> It keeps me on my toes!
[12:22] <mipstien> i can't get direct rendering turned on ... this is my xorg.conf file and it use to work at one time... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[12:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> XMMS: Beck - Loser
[12:23] <doopidub> yeah
[12:24] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: have you got your torrent client setup yet, is use BitTornado  and for music while you linux learn : streamtuner
[12:24] <THX-1138> Direct rendering  = the DRI module.
[12:24] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: sorry  i use not is use
[12:24] <THX-1138> not suew if any other module is needed to support dri itself. -
[12:25] <THX-1138> !display
[12:25] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <THX-1138> !nvidia
[12:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:25] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo aptitude install streamtuner
[12:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> streamtuner?
[12:25] <mipstien> i just got nvidia drivers uninstalled and reinstalled and fixxed
[12:25] <Sktfeelsdapper> !nautilus
[12:25] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 838 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> !gksudo
[12:26] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}
[12:26] <THX-1138> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xoeg
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> WTH is streamtuner?
[12:26] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo aptitude show streamtuner
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> !streamtuner
[12:26] <ubotu> streamtuner: A GUI audio stream directory browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.99-5ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 581 kB, installed size 2064 kB
[12:26] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is it good for music?
[12:27] <mike456> can anyone help with "vsftp", trying to set up virtual users through guide.. but no luck
[12:27] <green_earz> Sktfeelsdapper: and aptitude show streamripper
[12:27] <Sktfeelsdapper> Is it good though? Haha
[12:27] <THX-1138> Yes, you will like  it for music. there is also streamripper to record music from  internet radio.
[12:30] <mike456> Anyone know how to set up Virtual Users with VSFTP?
[12:30] <AngryElf> is there a dpkg-reconfigure for the soundcard/ALSA settings?
[12:30] <AngryElf> a la xserver-xorg?
[12:30] <thelsdj> mike456: never done it myself, i usually just make real users with shell of /bin/true or something
[12:31] <omegacat> can i do like this guy to make my mouse work? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html - in my xorg.conf the wacom stuff isn't commented out and the touchpad i think is just the generic mouse driver not synaptics. If i copy what that guy did will it totally break my shit?
[12:32] <mike456> thelsdj: Yeah, would be nice with virtual users though
[12:32] <radar1976> where is a changelist for edgy
[12:32] <radar1976> 6.10
[12:33] <kjm> for beta1?
[12:33] <radar1976> yes
[12:33] <green_earz> mike456: here a link for a howto for vsftpd   http://www.brennan.id.au/14-FTP_Server.html   i have not seen one for a virtual user setup
[12:34] <omegacat> ok, i will try it and come back and cry in like 10 minutes when neither my mouse nor touchpad work.
[12:34] <ompaul> radar1976, have you gone to #ubuntu+1 ?
[12:34] <radar1976> will do now
[12:34] <tuxtux> notte a tutti
[12:34] <Sktfeelsdapper> That's kinda cool streamripper.
[12:34] <ompaul> !it
[12:34] <kjm> radar1976 : a good start is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta
[12:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> I guess I should just stick to what I know for now.
[12:35] <mike456> thelsdj: Thx, reading
[12:35] <lukas> cpufreq-info claims, hardware limits are from 800mhz to 1,73ghz. but it only switches between 1,33 and 1,73ghz. how can i set the limits?
[12:35] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want to get nicotine to work, but i install it and it closes down when i start it right away.
[12:36] <the_dennis> Hi there! Can anybody help me to install compiz on 6.06? I've problems during apt-get for package compiz.
[12:36] <radar1976> I found the notes
[12:36] <radar1976> thanks kjm
[12:36] <kjm> cool, np
[12:36] <radar1976> just wished I could get appletouch to work properly
[12:37] <kjm> radar1976 - I've never had good luck getting it going on my iBook.  But, always use a external mouse anyways so never looked into it to much.
[12:37] <omegacat> My xorg.conf has Load "dri" in the modules section and that guys (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html) has Load "evdev" - should i take out my "dri" and put in "evdev"?
[12:38] <radar1976> well thats what is stopping me from using ubuntu full time
[12:38] <omegacat> (I have no idea what these things are or what they do btw.)
[12:38] <NutsOfSteel> if i have a script file owned by the user "backup" and cron needs to run that file as the user backup, what do i need to do? I vaguely remember having to use the "setuid" command or something...
[12:38] <radar1976> that and airport extreme
[12:38] <kjm> thank broadcom for that one
[12:38] <radar1976> yeah
[12:39] <omegacat> Anybody: My xorg.conf has Load "dri" in the modules section and that guys (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-249063.html) has Load "evdev" - should i take out my "dri" and put in "evdev"?
[12:39] <b_52Centos> do you know how to enable writing in arabic under terminal and graphic session ?
[12:39] <pinky> Anyone got an Atheros wifi card (especially with a MacBook/Pro) that wasn't working with Dapper (specifically had to update madwifi-ng)
[12:39] <green_earz> the_dennis: run the command " sudo aptitude update "  to update the package list,
[12:40] <the_dennis> green_earz: isn't aptitude update the same as "apt-get update" ?
[12:41] <GStubbs43> Hey, just wondering, does anyone here use gnome and KDE? (sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop) Or would that probably break my computer? :)
[12:41] <PacketScan> GStubbs43, go for it.
[12:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok, so I stopped all sounds in system > pref > sound
[12:41] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it's still playing them when I switch folders
[12:41] <kjm> GStubbs43 - I've installed kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop with out any problems.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> GStubbs43: its fine
[12:41] <PacketScan> i've got gnome, kde, fluxbox installed and a few others.
[12:41] <kjm> GStubbs43 - so dive right in.
[12:42] <gh0st> hello, i've got "Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage XL"" oin my xorg.conf, but i have an nvidia!
[12:42] <mike456> thelsdj: Thanks anyways, virtual users in VSFTP is a nono for me =)
[12:42] <GStubbs43> cool, thanks
[12:43] <mariano_> anybody did bittorrent over ssh? My ISP is 'slowing down' my torrents downloads
[12:43] <kjm> GStubbs43 - one thing with installing kubuntu-desktop - it will ask you if you wish to use gdm or kdm for graphical login.  It is probably safer to keep with GDM.  But, kdm probably works just fine as well.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> kjm: kdm works fine
[12:43] <kjm> okee dokee
[12:44] <fredrik> I have a wireless pc card with the chipset of Atheros Com. AR5212 802.11 abg.NIC, and i can not configure this, is there any one that know how to set it up and can help me out. I am new to linux as well
[12:44] <GStubbs43> yeah, on Dapper I used GDM so I'll ptobably just stick with that...
[12:44] <crazy_penguin> Good night to everyone!
[12:44] <THX-1138> G'nite
[12:45] <green_earz> the_dennis: yes
[12:47] <fredrik> is there any one that can help
[12:47] <omegacat> I am trying to set up a USB mouse on an emachines 6810 with dapper - it does not work. At all. plz help?
[12:48] <ghost_> what's the default driverin xorg.conf for ati (without 3d etc...)?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> omegacat: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:49] <omegacat> ty gnomefreak am trying that now
[12:49] <nameless_> help :\
[12:49] <feugan3333> fredrick: Found this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[12:49] <gnomefreak> omegacat: make sure you choose "ExplorerPS/2
[12:49] <fredrik> i need help to set up my pcmcia card for my laptop, it has a chipset:Atheros Communications AR5212, i neeed help
[12:49] <nameless_> someone can help me ?
[12:49] <nameless_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/zcsiUL87.html
[12:49] <ghost_> what's the default driver in xorg.conf for ati (without 3d etc...)?
[12:50] <Rasta>  by default ruby 1.8.x comes installed but if in the terminal i do a "ruby -v" i get a "command not found message" so i have to install it with apt-get and then ruby works on the terminal, any ideas why this happens?
[12:50] <ompaul> feugan3333, fredrik  that would be a bit out of dayte
[12:50] <ompaul> !ndswrapper > fredrik
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndswrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <omegacat> gnomefreak: omg how much memory is to be used by my video card?
[12:51] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper > fredrik
[12:51] <tjb891> if i want to use bittorent do i have to edit iptables first?
[12:51] <ompaul> fredrik, check the message from ubotu
[12:51] <kjm> omegacat - what kind of video card do you have?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> omegacat: i left mine blank but that depends ont he memoery of your card
[12:51] <ghost_> please anyone: how can i reconfigure my xorg.conf?
[12:51] <nameless_> could someone help me ?
[12:51] <omegacat> its an ATI something
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ghost_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <ompaul> ghost, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:52] <ghost_> for nvidia and ati?
[12:52] <kjm> omegacat - if you are unsure - leave it blank.
[12:52] <omegacat> gnomefreak: i can try leaving it blank?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> omegacat: on the box it will tell you. just leave it blank if you dont know
[12:52] <kjm> ghost_ for either.
[12:52] <omegacat> thx kjm
[12:52] <ompaul> !ati > ghost_
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul got anything for a fever?
[12:52] <ompaul> !nvidia > ghost_
[12:52] <kjm> g'night everyone
[12:52] <ompaul> gnomefreak, rest
[12:52] <feugan3333> ompaul: There are newer versions of the madwifi driver, why use ndiswrapper?
[12:52] <jrib> gnomefreak: lemons and honey
[12:52] <ompaul> !timetable > feugan3333
[12:53] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm that sounds good
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ty jrib
[12:53] <DebianZealot> muhahhaha
[12:53] <ompaul> DebianZealot, na
[12:53] <ghost_> ompaul: i've got a big problem after installing nvidia-glx, i can't get no xserver, onlky command line. what can i do. since i didn't backup the old one?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ghost_: choose nvidia in the drivers section of your xorg.conf
[12:53] <ompaul> ghost_, so this time choose nv driver and then go at it again after x starts
[12:53] <nameless_> i've got a problem with my printer
[12:53] <ghost_> i did
[12:53] <nameless_> :E
[12:53] <omegacat> gnomefreak: yes or no to "Use kernel framebuffer device interface" - it has no selected, but it says enabling it is the safe bet, but that you can turn it off if it causes problems?
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, Im doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and I've reached the point where it asks the amount of ram my video card has.  Although its asking in kbs? I know what it is in 128mb anyone know what this is in kbs
[12:54] <gnomefreak> omegacat: yes
[12:54] <ghost_> ompaul: i did, too
[12:54] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you don't need to enter values for that
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: cheers mate
[12:55] <DebianZealot> FreeFox, ReallyOpenOffice, FreeKDE, FreeLinuxKernel - A preview of the Debian apt repository of the future.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: it will use the memory the card alows most of time without you putting in anything
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul: use kernel framebuffer? yes no
[12:55] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:55] <nameless_> ....
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: thx
[12:55] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, at this stage you should know to ask the channel :P
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> !psychoseek
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psychoseek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Speedator> hi. need the notgraphical installer vor edgy beta. without livecd. should i try the servercd? or is this only for server?
[12:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> !nicotine+
[12:56] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8rc1-1.1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[12:56] <Sktfeelsdapper> But it doesn't work for me :(
[12:56] <DebianZealot> Soon Debian won't run on real computers but only in BOCHES because real computers aren't free.
[12:56] <ghost_> after installing nvidia-glx i got Ati in driver description, !!???
[12:56] <gnomefreak> install java
[12:57] <ompaul> nameless_, you click on system administration printing and work on it there
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: do I put "uk-qwerty" <- like that for keyboard variant
[12:57] <feugan3333> ompaul: What has a timebased release got to do with the madwifi driver?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> DebianZealot: please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you must talk about debian
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: i leave them blank
[12:57] <nameless_> ompaul: doesn't work
[12:57] <nameless_> i have to compile this http://rafb.net/paste/results/zcsiUL87.html
[12:58] <ompaul> spoilsport had +Q
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: I would never have known... gota do alot more reading
[12:58] <Sktfeelsdapper> nicotine keeps trying to open up and then closing real quick.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Paddy_EIRE: after screwing it up for 3 years it becomes second nature to pick the right ones :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: install java
[12:58] <ompaul> nameless_, what kind of printer have you got?
[12:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> java what for?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> nicotine
[12:59] <OH-DAE> ?\(?_o)/? <( desu desu desu desu desu desu desu )
[12:59] <Sktfeelsdapper> i have java installed i'm pretty sure.
[12:59] <nameless_> epson stylus color 680
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: what about mouse "ImPS/2" or "ExplorerPS/2" I have an optical 3 button mouse
[12:59] <nameless_> i use ubuntu 6.06 with xfce
[12:59] <nameless_> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Color_680
[01:00] <gnomefreak> OH-DAE: dont spam
[01:00] <ompaul> nameless_, #xubuntu will help there
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ha
[01:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm pretty sure I have Java installed already.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: make sure its set to system wide
[01:00] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I do that?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> gnomefreak: what about mouse "ImPS/2" or "ExplorerPS/2" I have an optical 3 button mouse
[01:00] <gnomefreak> explorer
[01:00] <omegacat> gnomefreak it is a laptop not a CRT - should I do simple, medium or advanced to slect my monitor characteristics?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[01:01] <OH-DAE> defora hardcore
[01:01] <CrippsFX> yeah!
[01:01] <gnomefreak> omegacat: either or
[01:01] <OH-DAE> fedora hardcore
[01:01] <omegacat> gnomefreak!!!! it is started working!
[01:01] <gnomefreak> omegacat: good :)
[01:01] <omegacat> And I am not even done yet!
[01:01] <omegacat> ilu so much!!!!
[01:01] <nameless_> i don't think it depends from version of *ubuntu
[01:01] <nameless_> :E
[01:01] <caimex> I setup gnump3d perfectly, but when I reset my computer it says the port is in use, so I change the port. If I reset again it'll say its in  use again, so I have to switch it every time I reset, help :)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:02] <ghost_> ok i finally got my nvidia drivers working :-)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ty omegacat
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[01:02] <ompaul> nameless_, you have been told that #xubuntu is there - why not ask the experts in that?
[01:02] <ghost_> how can i know if 3d acceleration is enabled for nvidia?
[01:02] <Paddy_EIRE> excellent stuff gnomefreak :)
[01:02] <gnomefreak> nameless_: just like omegacat thought his mouse would work
[01:02] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:02] <ompaul> ghost, play chromium
[01:02] <CrippsFX> I apologize for that troller ... he uses the Fedora name in vain.
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ghost_: glxinfo
[01:02] <Sktfeelsdapper> gnome how do i set it system wide?
[01:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> it's also nicotine 1.0.8 or whatever.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:03] <caimex> I setup gnump3d perfectly, but when I reset my computer it says the port is in use, so I change the port. If I reset again it'll say its in  use again, so I have to switch it every time I reset, help :)
[01:03] <ghost_> gnomefreak: is it "direct rendering"? and how can i know my FPS (approx.)?
[01:03] <omegacat> gnomefreak: i have a 15.4 in widescreen, i think... it autoselect 17 in in the simple setup, should i say ok?
[01:03] <Sktfeelsdapper> then what
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ghost_: does it say direct rendering yes?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> omegacat: yeah
[01:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> will it effect firefox if i do this, or anything else?
[01:04] <ghost_> gnomefreak: yes
[01:04] <Sktfeelsdapper> it's on selection 3 right now.
[01:04] <ghost_> hope it's good
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ghost_: you have 3d
[01:04] <ghost_> :-)
[01:04] <ghost_> gnomefreak: how can i know my FPS (approx.)?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ghost_: glxgears -printfps will give you fps rate (its not a benchmark
[01:04] <fdoving> caimex: check what is using the port with 'sudo fuser -v portnumber/tcp' where portnumber is the number of the port.
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: i cant see what #3 is
[01:05] <omegacat> ilu sooo much gnomefreak!!! yay!
[01:05] <jadrifter> Hello.  I've got to be missing something obvious.  Running Ubuntu Breezy on a Dell Insprion Laptop.  Would like to use an external monitor.  Any good how-to's out there?  All I find are people having trouble with this.  I'd like to be able to switch back and forth without restarting X or the computer.
[01:05] <caimex> ok
[01:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> it says /usr
[01:05] <CrippsFX> gnomefreak, isn't there also the --this-is-not-a-benchmark  option? ;)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: give me the numbers part
[01:05] <ghost_> gnomefreak: do i have to reconfigure my nvidia card when i buy a new screen?
[01:05] <Sktfeelsdapper> slash usr slash lib slash j2se slash 1.4 slash bin slash java
[01:05] <gnomefreak> CrippsFX: ick but yes without the -
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ghost_: no but you might want to change the settings for monitor
[01:06] <CrippsFX> gnomefreak, ah, right. heh. I just find that flag funny :P
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: why didnt you install 1.5
[01:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> um...
[01:06] <coax> does anyone know how to add folders to the "Places" menu??
[01:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> i think i got it from easy ubuntu
[01:06] <Sktfeelsdapper> i've tried "installing" this crap before on my own and don't know the first thing about what I'm doing.
[01:07] <waxfactor2nd> hi now ive installed windows as partition 1 on hdd and then ubuntu with use largest amaunt free space, but when i boot it says grub error 22 before i can choese what to boot. i want it to dual boot. how can i fix it?? btw im a total newb
[01:07] <jadrifter> coax - Drag and drop works
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin is too hard?
[01:07] <Sktfeelsdapper> haha i guess not, but i never knew i could do that
[01:07] <gnomefreak> or better yet sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[01:07] <Kojim1> Hey
[01:07] <tobyaustralia> what do I use to upgrade wine with a downloaded package 0.9.20?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> plugin will bring in -bin and -jre
[01:07] <skipper> hello, how could i add these repos to my ubuntu dapper amd64: http://ubuntu.moshen.de/. What should i write in sources.list?
[01:07] <Kojim1> I'm having trouble changing the permissions for the root folder
[01:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> it says it's already the latest version.
[01:08] <Sktfeelsdapper> when i just did that.
[01:08] <PFA> does anyone know how to get flash working in Opera? there is no sound and on Youtube it stops playing after 2 seconds
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !seveas > Sktfeelsdapper
[01:08] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !seveas skipper
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seveas skipper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <gnomefreak> damn
[01:08] <hondje> Sktfeelsdapper: You'll have a far better experience if you spend some time looking into how apt-get and it's GUI front-end Synaptic work
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !seveas > skipper
[01:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> I'm getting how apt-get works
[01:09] <Sktfeelsdapper> so how do i set it system wide for now?
[01:10] <omegacat> gnomefreak: I am still using the install as it was from the CD, no software updates, should I let it update the xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-input-mouse like it wants to, or will that break my nice freshly working mouse?
[01:10] <CrippsFX> if I was to run an *x86.run installer script on amd64, would 1)the installer work and 2)I be able to play the game ?
[01:10] <waxfactor2nd> hi now ive installed windows as partition 1 on hdd and then ubuntu with use largest amaunt free space, but when i boot it says grub error 22 before i can choese what to boot. i want it to dual boot. how can i fix it?? btw im a total newb
[01:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> The options are
[01:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> 1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[01:11] <skipper> gnomefreak: how would you add these repos (for ubuntu dapper amd64): http://ubuntu.moshen.de/. What should i write in sources.list? Thanks
[01:11] <Sktfeelsdapper> 2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[01:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> 3        /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/java what it's set on right now
[01:12] <Sktfeelsdapper> 4        /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:13] <caimex> sudo fuser -v *port*/tcp tells me that gnump3d is using the port but its not listed in ps -e
[01:13] <CrippsFX> skipper, if you wanted to add that repo, yes, it would be to your sources.list ... you should run it as such: sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de >> /etc/apt/sources.list" ;   or, there should be documentation on the website of how to add the repo
[01:13] <tobyaustralia> Ive been given the advice to upgrade WINE to 0.9.20. The repository fails using the sources.list command "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main"
[01:13] <tobyaustralia> Any ideas why? or how to download the .deb file an just run an upgrade?
[01:14] <CrippsFX> skipper ... wait, there's a syntax error in that command: sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu.moshen.de" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <Paddy_EIRE> what's a good way of testing if my Graphics card is performing fully from a default ubuntu install
[01:14] <Paddy_EIRE> I have the feeling the "ati" driver was better for my comp than the "fglrx"
[01:14] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, glxinfo |grep "direct rendering:"
[01:15] <Rasta> mysql comes installed by default on dapper drake?
[01:15] <anon32> HELP
[01:15] <skipper> CrippsFX: i got this: bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[01:15] <Rasta> !mysql
[01:15] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:15] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, no dount. "ati" is far more stable than fglrx ... unfortunately, there's no 3d acceleration for modern cards (newer than radeon 9000) without fglrx
[01:15] <anon32> I need help installing drivers for my Winmodem
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: this is what I got patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ glxinfo |grep "direct rendering:
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> >
[01:15] <CrippsFX> skipper, then you left out the "sudo" part at the beginning
[01:15] <gnomefreak> omegacat: you will be fine
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: i have a radeon 9250
[01:16] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, that's because you didn't close the double quotes
[01:16] <skipper> CrippsFX: no :-)
[01:16] <anon32> I have them downloaded, but I need someone to translate the install script...
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[01:16] <anon32> :-(
[01:16] <anon32> please help
[01:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> gnome?
[01:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> Did you get all that?
[01:16] <ompaul> !modem > anon32
[01:16] <CrippsFX> skipper, well, if it's giving you that error message, and you didn't foget "sudo" then you have a far more serious error on your hands.
[01:16] <Sktfeelsdapper> gnomefreak or whatever his name is.
[01:16] <ompaul> anon32, read the message from the bot
[01:16] <gnomefreak> what?
[01:17] <anon32> ompaul: that's utterly unhelpful
[01:17] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: how do i load the backup "xorg.conf" i want to use that again... i actuall think that supported direct rendering
[01:17] <anon32> I need help getting the drivers to install
[01:17] <godtvisk1n> I want to remove my windows harddrive, which is hda, but it contains the master boot record. how can i put the master boot record on hdb, which is my ubuntu drive?
[01:17] <caimex> sudo fuser -v *port*/tcp tells me that gnump3d is using the port but its not listed in ps -e, how do I kill gnump3d?
[01:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> How do I make it system wide? Gnomefreak?
[01:17] <Sktfeelsdapper> It shows I have it installed.
[01:17] <scuzball> ok im a complete noob and i need somebody to help me
[01:18] <fdoving> caimex: 'sudo fuser -vki *port*/tcp'
[01:18] <gnomefreak> Sktfeelsdapper: choose the newest one 1.5 if its there in dapper it is there
[01:18] <ompaul> anon32, utterly - why ?
[01:18] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, just go into /etx/X11/  and rename the current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.1 or something like that, and rename the backup to xorg.conf, then restart your x-server (ctrl+alt+bkspace)
[01:18] <anon32> ompaul: because my problem involves drivers and an install script
[01:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Ok I'm using the 1.5 one.
[01:18] <skipper> CrippsFX: how could i ad the repo manually anyway? (gedit)
[01:18] <AshyIsMe> is anyone here using expocity?
[01:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> Still no nicotine though.
[01:18] <ompaul> anon32, the bot gave you this URL: Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto which defines how you deal with those horrible devices
[01:18] <scuzball> can somebody who is willing to help out a complete noob, pm me?
[01:19] <anon32> when I run the install script, I just get a ton of bash errors
[01:19] <Paddy_EIRE> CrippsFX: can i do that with "gksudo nautilus" for handyness
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> i've installed it but it has a bit of a problem
[01:19] <ompaul> anon32, where did you get that install script from?
[01:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> gksudo nautilus is VERY handy
[01:19] <CrippsFX> skipper, run gedit as sudo, and add the line "deb <URL>" to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:19] <CrippsFX> Paddy_EIRE, don't see why not
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> when i hit alt tab, the shrunken windows appear on the screen but they shake constantly
[01:19] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:19] <skipper> CrippsFX: and that's all, nothing *after* it?
[01:19] <AshyIsMe> and i can't select a window to raise
[01:19] <Renan_s2> !info geda
[01:19] <ubotu> geda: GNU EDA -- Electronics design software. In component universe, is optional. Version 20050820-1 (dapper), package size 86 kB, installed size 384 kB
[01:19] <anon32> ompaul: err... forgot the url...
[01:19] <scuzball> please?
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> brb
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I want soulseek sooooooo bad
[01:20] <n0rus> Help. Needed. I have a NAT. I can ping for example google.com but when I'm trying "telnet google.com 80", I get no reply on the client machine. How to allow this in iptables?
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> it won't woik.
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> Sktfeelsdapper, use nicotine
[01:20] <CrippsFX> skipper, to tell you the truth, I'm not 100% sure ... I think that you *should* have "dapper main" after it, but I'm not 100% on that.
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> THATS WHAT I"M TRYING TO DO!
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> hahaha
[01:20] <ompaul> anon32, the way you do ubuntu is with the ubuntu docs .. they are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto  you might find it useful
[01:20] <CrippsFX> AshyIsMe, I did ... but I quit smoking.
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> Sktfeelsdapper, in the settings, you have to make up a username and password
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> CrippsFX, heh, same
[01:20] <skipper> CrippsFX: concretely, on this site, is it http://ubuntu.moshen.de/  or http://ubuntu.moshen.de/dists/dapper/ i should add for my dapper amd64? thanks
[01:20] <Sktfeelsdapper> I can't even get it to load up.
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> CrippsFX, about day 8 now
[01:20] <anon32> stop giving me that link!
[01:20] <brohan> Hey, I've ran into a little skanak here.. I've backed up my laptop's home dir (I did an edgy update and decided to go back.. to reinstall).. I accedentally overwrote the .Xauthority file.. and I'm having issues
[01:20] <AshyIsMe> Sktfeelsdapper, oh
[01:21] <CrippsFX> AshyIsMe, me too :P
[01:21] <brohan> Anyone know xauth commands?
[01:21] <anon32> I've read it and it doesn'thelp
[01:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> I click on it, it looks like it's going to start and then disappears.
[01:21] <ompaul> anon32, well use it and tell me where it fails for you
[01:21] <AshyIsMe> CrippsFX, haha
[01:21] <skipper> does anyone know: do i have to add "dapper main" after each repo i add in sources.list?
[01:21] <scuzball> i have a hd with ntfs file system that wont give me permission to access it.. please help?
[01:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> I don't know what happened since yesterday but I can't even get 1.0.8 to run.
[01:21] <anon32> ompaul: what about the part where it completely skips over installing drivers?
[01:21] <Sktfeelsdapper> And lord help me if i ever try to install stupid nicotine+ ever again.
[01:22] <ompaul> anon32, what part of identifying your correct driver does it fail at
[01:22] <CrippsFX> skipper, not sure. you'd have to ask the repo maintainer.
[01:22] <godtvisk1n> I want to remove my windows harddrive, which is hda, but it contains the master boot record. how can i put the master boot record on hdb, which is my ubuntu drive?
[01:22] <Sktfeelsdapper> I need some help with stupid nicotine plus srsly bad.
[01:22] <anon32> ompaul: I have my correct driver, it's binary, but I can't use the install script that came with it
[01:23] <scuzball> please i need help. i am a complete noob
[01:23] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, just install grub onto hdb ... read the man page on how to do that. Then you should be able to remove hda ... except then hdb might become hda ...
[01:23] <CpuWhiz> ok, so i enable this site, no config errors, but for some reason all my SSL sites stop working - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25358
[01:23] <CpuWhiz> what is wrong with this picture?
[01:23] <ompaul> anon32, where did you get the binary from, and how was it identified as the correct one?
[01:23] <tjb891> I am running bittornado right now and i am only odwnlaidng, is there a way to tell my computer to sleep and use less power and still download?
[01:24] <CrippsFX> tjb891, I don't think so.
[01:24] <AshyIsMe> tjb891, if i shut the lid on my laptop it turns my wireless nic off.   it's the most annoying thing
[01:24] <anon32> identified by scanmodem, the URL  escapes ne
[01:24] <godtvisk1n> CrippsFX: so then i would have to edit fstab, right?
[01:24] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, nope.
[01:24] <tjb891> thats what i thought thx anyway?
[01:24] <Ciaus> tjb891, the amount of power a computer uses is negligible.....if you are concerned turn off that crt
[01:24] <skipper> CrippsFX: it does not work like that, should i add dapper main or something?
[01:25] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, you would have to edit your grub.conf
[01:25] <godtvisk1n> CrippsFX: why not? if hdb became hda, wouldn't fstab look for the wrong hdd?
[01:25] <tjb891> and by the way does anyone know if a crt pulls more power than a lcd
[01:25] <ompaul> anon32, okay so scanmodem told you what the actual card was - which one did it report?
[01:25] <CrippsFX> skipper, I don't know.
[01:25] <Ciaus> tjb891, yup
[01:25] <tjb891> alot or a little more?
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> previously when i did "glxinfo |grep direct" I got direct rendering : yes, now i get know how can I tell ubuntu to use the default driver it put in from fresh install
[01:25] <anon32> ompaul: Intel 537EP
[01:25] <CrippsFX> godtvisk1n, second thought, some fstab editing may be in order, but you would definitely need to edit your grub conf
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> *no
[01:25] <anon32> I can DCC you the scripts if that'll help
[01:27] <godtvisk1n> CrippsFX: where is that? i can't find it in /boot/grub
[01:27] <anon32> I love how the doc says to use apt-get to download MODEM drivers
[01:27] <harisund> Does anybody know how I can stop xChat from giving me the 'nick has quit (Read error)" or "nick has timed out" error messages. I couldn't care less for them, really.
[01:27] <anon32> if I could do that, I wouldn't need the blasted drivers
[01:27] <scuzball> Hello. I am a complete newbie. Please PM me if you would like to help me
[01:27] <ompaul> anon32, looking at the first couple of google hits for that - they are really, really Ugly - give me 10 mins to find a cleaner way to do it
[01:28] <CrippsFX> anyways ... I'm outta here v... cheers.
[01:28] <anon32> I need an automated script as I'm a noob
[01:28] <harisund> any ideas anyone?
[01:28] <anon32> and if I need my kernel source, a download link would be nice
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how I can use the default drivers ubuntu assigned my grfx card on fresh install as I manged to disable direct rendering
[01:28] <geocritter> Is there a known problem with the new Edgy beta, or am I just having a run of bad luck (can't get the install to boot)
[01:29] <scuzball> please somebody help me
[01:29] <anon32> edgy is entirely beta software, if it doesn'twork, that's because it's beta
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  what was the driver it was using befor?
[01:29] <Dr_willis> !ask
[01:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:29] <scuzball> i have
[01:29] <Stevo> scuzball> what do you need help with?
[01:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: it was the default "ati" one
[01:30] <Dr_willis> so i can scroll up and hope to find it....  :P
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  edit the xorg.conf and chagne the driver line back to ati
[01:30] <scuzball> i need to access files in a ntfs hd that i dont have premission to access
[01:30] <Stevo> if you don't have permission, you can't access.
[01:30] <PFA> does anyone know how to get flash working in Opera? there is no sound and on Youtube it stops playing after 2 seconds
[01:31] <anon32> !flash
[01:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <scuzball> but its MY hard drive.. on MY computer
[01:31] <hondje> lol
[01:31] <hondje> I never saw someone take permissions personally before :)
[01:31] <Stevo> lol
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: i have already and restarted X using ctrl+alt+backspace and when i do glxinfo |grep direct i get Direct rendering : no, previously this was yes
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: oops
[01:31] <anon32> it doesn't work because Flash support for Linux ends at 7
[01:32] <eRadic8r> anyone have a working xorg.conf file for a dell inspiron 8100 w/nvidia geforce 2go 32mb graphics card?
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: before i did what i said previoulsy i changed the line back to ati
[01:32] <Stevo> i presume you're using linux to try to access this ntfs partition?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  im not sure how your dri is related to changeing that at all.. check the config file - there may be some other dri line/setting that got changed
[01:32] <PFA> anon32: so how come other people have working flash
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: what should i be looking for
[01:33] <anon32> PFA: they don't try to play newer flash videos
[01:33] <anon32> anyone know how to get write access to ntfs
[01:33] <mipstien> i can't get direct rendering turned on ... this is my xorg.conf file and it use to work at one time... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  im guessing a line with 'dri' mentioned in it.
[01:33] <PFA> anon32: i have no sound at ALL no matter how old the video is
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !dri
[01:33] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: what will I do with this line? I have found it
[01:34] <anon32> bah. try GNASH
[01:34] <anon32> the adobe version scks
[01:34] <Dr_willis> be sure its on. :P  and not commented out I guess.. i cant say that ive ever had to mess with dri when using the fglrx drivers
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: it says "Section "DRI" Mode	0666
[01:34] <PFA> anon32: who me?
[01:34] <ethos_> quick poll: which torrent program do "you" like most...
[01:34] <ompaul> anon32, do this sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` << I'll be back and writing to ntfs may break your ntfs in ways you would not like better to read but not write to
[01:34] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  check for a   Load    "dri"
[01:35] <octan> !tmpfs
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tmpfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <Dr_willis> ethos_,  wine utorrent.exe
[01:35] <mipstien> anon32, look up ntfs-3g it works fine
[01:35] <anon32> ompaul: gee... if I could use apt-get I wouldnt need a modem
[01:35] <octan> does ubuntu use tmpfs ?
[01:35] <anon32> *duh*
[01:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: yeah its there
[01:35] <PFA> octan: ext3
[01:35] <mipstien> i can't get direct rendering turned on ... this is my xorg.conf file and it use to work at one time... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25354/
[01:35] <Dr_willis> mount shows ->  devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> anon32: download what you need from packages.ubuntu.com save it to usb stick than install it on your ubuntu pc
[01:36] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  other then that no clue...  how are you proving its on or off?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> anon32: your here so you have a net connection :)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> doesnt have to be on same pc
[01:36] <octan> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[01:36] <octan> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[01:36] <anon32> gnomefreak: at this point, I must ask what exactly I need to download :-(
[01:36] <ethos_> Dr_willis:ya utorrent is good, although I have never used it on linux, im sure it's even better...
[01:36] <octan> thouse?
[01:36] <knasman> I just installed mplayer to play a DVD and I'm getting the error "failed to open dvd://1".  What do I need to do?
[01:36] <beavis_> anyone know about a good tutorial for wpa tkip?
[01:36] <eRadic8r> anyone have a working xorg.conf file for a dell inspiron 8100 w/nvidia geforce 2go 32mb graphics card?
[01:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: by doing "glxinfo |grep direct", ... perhaps i need to restart the entire comp?
[01:36] <ompaul> anon32, no ethernet?
[01:37] <anon32> the last guy's instructions were rather cryptic
[01:37] <octan> what does the tmpfs do ?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i think so..  you have modules loaded that need tog et unloaded
[01:37] <anon32> ompaul: well, if Ihadethernet, I wouldn'tneed a modem
[01:37] <ompaul> anon32, and that -- can be done with the CD cos that stuff is on the CD
[01:37] <anon32> sorry, spacebar broken
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: brb :)
[01:38] <octan> what purpose has /dev/shm ?
[01:38] <ethos_> one question.  Has anyone heard of someone installing their video card driver through wine? does anyone think it is possible?
[01:39] <anon32> ompaul: what will those instructions do?
[01:39] <anon32> also, which CD? I have the dapper 6.06 liveCD
[01:39] <benguin> hi there
[01:39] <benguin> is this a good place to ask an Edgy question?
[01:40] <alex222> how do you record your desktop?
[01:40] <Ciaus> !ask
[01:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:40] <alex222> as a screencas
[01:40] <benguin> lol okay..
[01:40] <benguin> is there an issue with nvidia drivers ?
[01:40] <anon32> anyone know what "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r'" does?
[01:40] <ompaul> anon32, well it will grab the headers files and isntall them - I have just gone through the help.ubuntu site and while I refrain from saying read it I will say it says how do to
[01:40] <Asymmetry> benguin, if by issue you mean it breaks after a reboot, say so
[01:41] <ompaul> anon32, I told you it installs your kernels headers
[01:41] <Rasta> someone can tell me where the htdocs/www folder is after a apache2 install with synaptic?
[01:41] <benguin> I have a 7600GS card AGP card, and I did a clean install of Edgy beta. It seems that agp is not being initialized.
[01:41] <anon32> ompaul: link and instructions? sorry, bad latency
[01:41] <Asymmetry> anon32, that is what that does. uname -r substitutes the kernel version in its place
[01:41] <Normal> My new computer(on the way) will have two 250Gb Hard drives. Does anyone have any recommendations on how much space to allocate for /main, /swap, /home, etc(I hope that's right)?
[01:42] <Asymmetry> Normal, i just go with a single filesystem for everything
[01:42] <gnomefreak> anon32: what is output from uname -r
[01:42] <Flight_Should> hi everybody
[01:42] <benguin> Asymmetry, i still get X, with nvidia as the driver in xorg.conf but no glx acceleration
[01:42] <knasman> Rasta: if you mean the docroot then /var/www
[01:42] <Kirby904> hey guys, whats the command to be room when using terminal
[01:42] <anon32> swap should be 1.5x RAM
[01:42] <Flight_Should> anyone using eciadsl for usb modem connection to the internet ?
[01:42] <Asymmetry> anon32, not necessarily.
[01:42] <anon32> everything else should be one partition
[01:42] <Kirby904> root*
[01:42] <Kirby904> be root* in terminal
[01:42] <xplic1t> sudo
[01:42] <Kirby904> oh ok thanks
[01:42] <gnomefreak> anon32: install linux-headers-2.6.xx-xxx
[01:42] <anon32> ok
[01:42] <Normal> Thank you!
[01:43] <Flight_Should> with eciadsl and usb modem i get to connect and when i download a big file then i get disconnected
[01:43] <gnomefreak> anon32: replaces the xx-xxx with your kernel version from the output of uname -r
[01:43] <Asymmetry> Since when should swap be 1.5 times your ram?
[01:43] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25362/   can someone please look over my xorg.conf and help me fix this problem that my direct rendering is not working?
[01:43] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25362/
[01:44] <anon32> ompaul: so, can I get a link to instructions?
[01:44] <Rasta> knasman, found, now when i try to use mysql with "mysql -u root" i get a "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" error i know that the service isnt rinning but how i can install it as a service?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> good idea to double your ram up to 1 gig
[01:44] <gnomefreak> for swap
[01:44] <beavis_> anyone know a tutorial for setting up  wpa tkip for the wireless connection?
[01:44] <anon32> Asymmetry: well, if your RAM is less than 2G, you should have 1.5x swap
[01:44] <ompaul> anon32, that one even mentions your modem so - I guess you could print it prepare for it and have a stab at it  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:44] <Asymmetry> anon32, Why?
[01:45] <Asymmetry> anon32, Don't just give advice without knowing the justification for it.
[01:45] <ompaul> anon32, so write it out
[01:45] <anon32> :-\
[01:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Dr_willis: nice one Direct rendering YES :) , the line change to ati and the restart did it. I also uninstalled did "sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx" for good measure...and tidyness
[01:45] <anon32> ok then, thanks a lot
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> hi ive never used linux before, but everyone have to start at one point. ive chosen ubuntu to try, but i want to dual boot with windows xp. ive done as ive been guided, first installed windows xp on hdd 0 partition 1, then ive taken ubuntu and taken use the largest continuous free space and installed it. there where no problems. but when i now reboot my computer,it says grub loader 1.5
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> grub loading
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> grub error 22
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> before i can choose windows or linux.. now i dont know what i shall do.. can someone help me. im trying to install ubuntu 6.06lts for pc, and i have a amd atlhon 64 3700+, a8n-sli premium, 2gb ram, and two 250gb spinpoints (sata) (both linux and windows have to go on the first one.)
[01:46] <waxfactor2nd> how shall i do??
[01:46] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, that sounds like it's unable to locate the grub config file when it boots.
[01:47] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, the best idea is to reinstall ubuntu, and instruct it to install the grub loading code into the mbr of hd0
[01:47] <waxfactor2nd> i dont know what that means
[01:47] <eRadic8r> is there a ubuntu nvidia graphics help channel possibly?
[01:47] <waxfactor2nd> ive reinstalled it 3times / but how can i instruck the grub loading code in the mbr??
[01:47] <stu__> not likely, although ppl in #ubuntu-xgl will have experience with nvidia gfx
[01:48] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, from what I know of the dapper installer, it should do it automatically
[01:48] <eRadic8r> ok thanx stu_
[01:48] <waxfactor2nd> k but i doenst work
[01:48] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, the fact that the grub loader is indeed loading is a good sign - i'm not sure why it cant find the config file
[01:48] <[A] ndy80> oh my god :)
[01:48] <[A] ndy80> just tried Xgl+Beryl
[01:48] <waxfactor2nd> do you know how i can fix it??
[01:48] <[A] ndy80> it's amazing!
[01:49] <gnomefreak> [A] ndy80: xgl and beryl dont run together
[01:49] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, give me a secon
[01:49] <waxfactor2nd> k
[01:49] <ompaul> !xgl
[01:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:49] <Intangir> i have a postscript file i need to print, i cant seem to get the network shared printer (shared off a windows XP computer) to work
[01:49] <Intangir> i cant print off of it
[01:49] <[A] ndy80> gnomefreak: I'm running them right now
[01:49] <Intangir> and the window computer cant open postscript files
[01:49] <gnomefreak> [A] ndy80: beryl has no use for xgl
[01:49] <waxfactor2nd> ive heard a bit about lilo but i dont know how i can use it if i cant boot it
[01:49] <ompaul> [A] ndy80, it is not stable software for dapper which is release so we don't do it here, but great it works for you, it may not work for others
[01:49] <gnomefreak> xgl cant be used with beryl iirc
[01:50] <[A] ndy80> iirc?
[01:50] <ompaul> if I recall correctly
[01:50] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, pm me, let me see if I can't help you out
[01:50] <[A] ndy80> beryl is a fork of compiz!
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> what is a pm??
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> sry but im a nwb
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> newb
[01:50] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, private message
[01:50] <waxfactor2nd> kk
[01:51] <mipstien> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25362/   can someone please look over my xorg.conf and help me fix this problem that my direct rendering is not working?
[01:51] <[A] ndy80> gnomefreak, ompaul : please read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[01:51] <ulfar> !multimedia
[01:51] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:51] <knasman> !dvd
[01:51] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:52] <waxfactor2nd> asymmetry / how do i do it
[01:52] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, do you have the livecd version of ubuntu?
[01:52] <AshyIsMe> [A] ndy80, what card do you have?
[01:52] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, enter: /msg <nick> <msg>
[01:52] <[A] ndy80> AshyIsMe: nvidia geforce 5200 go
[01:52] <gnomefreak> [A] ndy80: Prior to installing Beryl, you need 3d-rendering support and XGL.  is wrong
[01:52] <[A] ndy80> on a toshiba laptop
[01:52] <eXSiR> mipstien, disable Load "dri" line
[01:52] <AshyIsMe> [A] ndy80, i thought xgl only worked for one of the ati cards
[01:53] <ompaul> [A] ndy80, I asked you to leave that to #ubuntu-xgl it is not for here
[01:53] <mipstien> exsir i have tried that and i just added it last reboot to attempt to fix it..... everyone keeps tellin me the opposite
[01:53] <[A] ndy80> gnomefreak: if I don't run Xgl, beryl does'n work
[01:53] <waxfactor2nd> it says no suck nick or chanel
[01:53] <AshyIsMe> [A] ndy80, join #ubuntu-xgl with me
[01:53] <eXSiR> i know that no need for dri
[01:53] <mipstien> exsir but its gone now.... any other ideas
[01:53] <gnomefreak> thats because your on dapper and beryl wasnt really made for dapper
 <asymmetry> <msg>
[01:53] <waxfactor2nd> dohh
[01:53] <ladydoor> does anybody know what module(s) ubuntu uses for networking?
[01:54] <skar> hi all, is there a konsole replacement for gnome, with the tabbed xterms and also reordering of the tabs?
[01:54] <Asymmetry> waxfactor2nd, enter what I tell you: /msg Asymmetry whatever here.
[01:55] <eXSiR> mipstien, check out mine   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25364/
[01:55] <waxfactor2nd> now ive openden a other window
[01:55] <Asymmetry> So type in that.
[01:55] <waxfactor2nd> ive wrote can you see this
[01:56] <jrib> skar: gnome-terminal?
[01:56] <mipstien> exsir what is i2c?
[01:57] <waxfactor2nd> asymmetry are you there??
[01:57] <eXSiR> not sure, it is my default config setting
[01:57] <mipstien> should i use the stuff at the bottom too?
[01:57] <eXSiR> try it
[01:57] <mipstien> k
[01:57] <mipstien> brb
[01:57] <waxfactor2nd> asymmetry are you there??
[01:57] <skar> jrib: hmm it needs alt+1 etc instead of alt-arrow keys as in konsole, u need 2 hands to type alt+1 unless the num pad is also used, also reordering the tabs is not supported
[01:58] <jrib> skar: the shortcut keys can be changed (I think), reordering of the tabs wfm
[01:58] <skar> jrib: is there a way to reassign the key binding for shift left and right tabs for gnome-terminal and also have tab reordering? i need several tabs all the time :(
[01:59] <ulfar> im trying to look at a video (from Reuters news) and Mozilla says additional plugins are required to play this (unknown plugin) and when mplayer starts "playing" all i see is "Playing: some/url/file.asf"
[01:59] <ulfar> anyone know what plugin is missing?
[01:59] <jrib> skar: let,s do one thing at a time.  Can't you drag the tabs back and forth with your mouse?
[01:59] <Phuzion> ulfar:  That's because it's a Windows file, ASF is for Windows Media
[01:59] <jrib> skar: you can even drag between windows (I am on edgy though, so maybe it's a new feature that isn't in the dapper version)
[01:59] <Phuzion> I am not sure whether or not there is a plugin available for Linux
[02:00] <beavis_> anyone know a tutorial for setting up  wpa tkip for the wireless connection?
[02:00] <kozmic> when i start a browser (firefox or opera), with no plugins (checked about:plugins) and no extensions, my load goes up to 5.00.. and higher if i run it longer than 1 minute. Anyone have any clue what may cause this? everything else runs just fine on my system.
[02:00] <jrib> skar: edit > keyboard shortcuts, should let you assign the keys you want
[02:00] <ladydoor> !wireless>beavis
[02:00] <ladydoor> !wireless > beavis_
[02:00] <skar> jrib: wfm -> works for u, so tab reordering already works?
[02:01] <jrib> skar: yes, ctrl-shift PageUp seems to be the default keyboard shortcut for that, but dragging with the mouse should work as well.  Is this what you mean by tab reordering?
[02:01] <beavis_> ladydoor, thanks , i read that already , the tutorial thats the is not detailed enough for me
[02:01] <Intangir> how do i print on Linux
[02:01] <Intangir> i have nEVER gotten printing to work on linux
[02:01] <Intangir> ubuntu makes it looks simple but.. it doesnt work!
[02:01] <Intangir> ive tried two printers
[02:02] <hondje> Intangir: CUPS
[02:02] <Intangir> i just connected this one directly and nothing
[02:02] <Intangir> what do i do with cups, and if i already have dapper do i already have it?
[02:02] <hondje> Intangir: Did you check linuxprinting.org to make sure that they're supported?
[02:03] <Intangir> it had a driver
[02:03] <Phuzion> Intangir:  Did you install the driver?
[02:03] <Flight_Should> i have some problems with eciadsl can someone help?
[02:03] <ulfar> Phuzion: could it be java or something? because i remember playing videos from reuters in my prior installation
[02:04] <thenetduck> would anyone be willing to help me get xgl/compiz install and running on my computer? ? I all ready have 3d acceleration ...
[02:04] <Phuzion> ulfar: ASF is a WIndows Media video format
[02:04] <Intangir> Phuzion: i selected it
[02:04] <Phuzion> Specifically streaming, so you'd need an ASF plugin
[02:04] <skar> jrib: hopefully yes, let me see into this, thanks for the tip though :)
[02:04] <Phuzion> However, I'm pretty sure that no plugin exists
[02:04] <omegacat> hello again, any help with bcm43xx-fwcutter? I am trying to make my wifi work - have a BCM4306
[02:05] <hondje> Intangir: What driver?
[02:05] <ciaron> how do i view my mysql logs?
[02:05] <jrib> skar: np, and good luck :)
[02:05] <ciaron> the server's that is
[02:05] <hondje> printer, etc
[02:06] <Flight_Should> i have some problems with eciadsl can someone help?
[02:06] <NuKe_MaNia> Flight_Should: what is problem
[02:07] <skar> jrib: cool, that was it, it works for me, thanks once again, konsole was a drag from inside gnome, now terminal is REAL fast :)
[02:09] <eXSiR> mipstien, is it ok or check this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218233&highlight=enable+direct+rendering+nvidia
[02:09] <mipstien> it is not ok :(
[02:10] <eXSiR> are u using XGL?
[02:10] <mipstien> no
[02:10] <eXSiR> look at the link pls, same problem and solution
[02:14] <mipstien> brb lemme try this again exsir
[02:14] <thenetduck> if i uninstalll fglrx and install the open source driver for my ati card , witll that still be considered "3d accelerated??
[02:14] <Mau> hi! im trying to play doom3 with the path .x86.run dont works well...audio do not play well...
[02:14] <eXSiR> k
[02:14] <omegacat> hai, i need help with bcm43xx-fwcutter - specifically which driver to download for my BCM4306 and the "Extract the firmware parts and install them to the correct location." - looking at the doc here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[02:14] <ciaron> where does mysqld log to by defaut?
[02:14] <eXSiR> doom 3 has a problem, u should use latest patch
[02:14] <jmac__> Compiz ? When I drag a window from one desktop to another it seems to shift the application up instead of placing it in the same position on the next desktop. Any ideas why?
[02:14] <eXSiR> some googling will help u, Mau
[02:15] <ciaron> the config says mysqld errors goto syslog but i can't see anything
[02:15] <newbi3> how can i install glibc 2.4.x on ubuntu? i cant find the packages with synaptic or apt-get
[02:15] <Mau> hi! im trying to play doom3 with the path .x86.run dont works well...audio do not play well... the graphics are slow too
[02:16] <Mr_Scorpio> Hello, I'd like to know why I can't used 32bit Depth and why all my applications and icons are so humongous. I'm at my highest resolution.
[02:16] <newbi3> Mau: http://www.nixcoders.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=317
[02:17] <Mau> thanks
[02:17] <eXSiR> Mau first install your grafic card driver and enable direct render than use doom33_1.3.1302-multilanguage.run pacth to solve sound issue
[02:17] <Mau> hunm
[02:18] <nnutter> Is there a way to use Ubiquity in text mode? I am trying to install Edgy Eft Beta but Ubiquity keeps not going forward.
[02:18] <Mau> i will try this!
[02:18] <Sktfeelsdapper> is there a soulseek or nicotine room?
[02:18] <nnutter> Weird thing is that Dapper does the same thing but Dapper has installed fine in the past.
[02:19] <newbi3> can someone tell me if its possible to install glibc 2.4.x on ubuntu?
[02:19] <Sktfeelsdapper> !soulseek
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soulseek - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <jrib> nnutter: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[02:19] <nnutter> OK
[02:19] <nnutter> jrib: thanks
[02:19] <mipstien> it did not work exsir
[02:20] <eXSiR> :(
[02:20] <newbi3> !glibc
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <eXSiR> i am not an expert, this is all i can do
[02:20] <newbi3> !help
[02:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:20] <alex222> ubuntu !
[02:20] <mipstien> thank you exsir !
[02:20] <eXSiR> your welcome
[02:21] <newbi3> !info glibc
[02:21] <ubotu> Package glibc does not exist in any distro I know
[02:21] <omegacat> also, my output from lspci and lspci -n is exaclty what is shown here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:21] <hondje> newbi3: Yeah, but you'd need to make a totally different toolchain unless you cared to encounter some seriously weird issues.
[02:21] <kitche> newbi3: if you want to do that you will have to redo your whole system since things will break
[02:22] <newbi3> well, i need some libraries like libopcodes,ld-linux,libbfd
[02:22] <newbi3> i cant find them with synaptic or apt-get
[02:23] <omegacat> and also i am reading this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114922 but it is over  my head.
[02:24] <hondje> newbi3: I really, really wouldn't recommend you play with glibc :) Perhaps you want to look into binutils
[02:24] <kitche> omegacat: you having problesm with bcm43xxx?
[02:24] <aliendream23> hello, I cannot get my video players to play vcd's when I enter them into a rom, help?
[02:25] <newbi3> hondje: okay then.. what should i do with binutils? i have them in my system.
[02:25] <Mr_Scorpio> How can I use 32bit color depth. I can only use 24 right now.
[02:25] <Mr_Scorpio> ?
[02:25] <newbi3> but i dont know how to "play"
[02:25] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, thats kind of equivalent
[02:25] <eXSiR> 32 is microsoft's color depth, in fact 32 bit is 24 bit :)
[02:25] <oxygene_> you get 8 bits for each RGB color channel either way
[02:26] <hondje> newbi3: binutils-dev: usr/lib/libopcodes.so binutils-dev: usr/lib/libbfd.so libc6: lib/ld-linux.so.2
[02:26] <oxygene_> the 32 bits is just for padding
[02:26] <oxygene_> (8 bits of them
[02:26] <Mr_Scorpio> Hmm, well okay. Then can someone tell me why all the icons in applications are so huge in ubuntu?
[02:26] <hondje> newbi3: So, I'd suggest installing binutils-dev and libc6 :)
[02:26] <Mr_Scorpio> I'm at my max resolution 1440x900
[02:27] <eXSiR> change ur screen resolation Mr_Scorpio
[02:27] <newbi3> Well okay, i am going to do it right now. thank you :)
 whats hugh
[02:27] <hondje> oh, and apt-file so you can apt-file search <filename>
[02:27] <easytiger> *huge?
[02:27] <newbi3> i hope i ll not have more problems after it
[02:27] <Mr_Scorpio> My icons in my applications.
[02:27] <oxygene_> you mean the applications-menu?
 have tyou a screenshot?
[02:28] <easytiger> 1440x900 is my resolution too. perhaps
[02:28] <Mr_Scorpio> Like my bookmarks list in firefox in windows only reaches 3/4 of the way while in linuxi it goes off the screen.
[02:28] <newbi3> hondje: i have them in my system. i didnt need to install
[02:28] <newbi3> the problem exist, and i dont know what to do.
[02:29] <kitche> newbi3: what problem?
[02:29] <newbi3> i cant compile a source code
[02:29] <aliendream23> I cannot get totem or vlc to play my vcd's, totem sais there is no plugin for the location (my rom drive), vlc just fails, help?
[02:30] <newbi3> make: *** [ghf/libghf.a]  Error 2
[02:30] <newbi3>  this is the error i am getting.
[02:30] <kitche> newbi3: why due to you missing those three things? and that's not really an error newbi3 it usually before that
[02:30] <ardchoille> !easysource
[02:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:31] <LjL> newbi3: indeed, there is no such thing as a libghf anywhere in the ubuntu repos, as far as i can see
[02:31] <anon32> ompaul: I got the error "file /boot/vmlinux.autoconf.h does not exist"
[02:31] <omegacat> kitche: Yes, I am trying to set it up on my laptop
[02:31] <newbi3> What do you suggest me? you all know better linux than me
[02:31] <kitche> LjL: libghf.a is part of the source code for the thing he is compiling
[02:31] <newbi3> And i really dont know which is the next step i have to do.
[02:31] <LjL> newbi3: what's the entire error? (pastebin, don't flood)
[02:31] <aliendream23> "there is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie" when I put in vcd discs, how do I fix this, please?
[02:32] <newbi3> OKay
[02:32] <newbi3> I ll post now
[02:32] <Deramin> anyone know of a Java compiler for ubuntu? Using Anjuta to write the code
[02:32] <anon32> help! does anyone know what /boot/vmlinux.autoconf.h is?
[02:32] <Mr_Scorpio> Okay I'll be back with screenshots.
[02:32] <anon32> deramin: gcj
[02:32] <kitche> omegacat: well it does work out of the box but if you use the native drivers then you need your driver.inf and a programm called bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:32] <Deramin> anon32: where can I find it?
[02:32] <anon32> don't know
[02:33] <ompaul> anon32, you are far to quick to ask a second time, what were you doing at that time, in ubuntu thjere is no such thing it is: /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h
[02:33] <J> I need help
[02:33] <ompaul> !ask
[02:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:33] <anon32> ompaul: I ran make 537
[02:33] <anon32> it gave me that error, I think it's a dist problem
[02:33] <ompaul> anon32, had you made the symlink?
[02:34] <anon32> *problem with distro
[02:34] <newbi3> http://pastebin.ca/187356 there :)
[02:34] <anon32> ompaul: huh??
[02:34] <J> I need to put something into the root folder but it says im not the owner but im the only user
[02:34] <Dr_willis>    /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h     - is what i got. :P
[02:34] <eXSiR> J, try sudo before with your copy or move command
[02:34] <ompaul> anon32, in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto there is: Update (2006-Jan-11 - RicardoChavez):
[02:35] <J> whast sudo
[02:35] <anon32> mm, I'm using a different package
[02:35] <Dr_willis> but i made a link from the linux dir to the kernel source dir.. for some program. vmware i think needed it
[02:35] <eXSiR> like "sudo cp filename"
[02:35] <omegacat> kitche: out of the box? My wifi doesn't work, I have installed bcm43xx-fwcutter, following directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 but I am stuck at how to figure out which driver I am supposed to download from in the readme, and I don't understand what it means by "Extract the firmware parts and install them to the correct location" - I don't know how to extract them - i
[02:35] <omegacat> s that what fwcutter does? And i don't know what the correct location is supposed to be.
[02:35] <omegacat> sry, that was really long.
[02:35] <ompaul> anon32, what do you mean by package?
[02:35] <eXSiR> sudo is super user command to use super user commands :)
[02:35] <anon32> ompaul: if I send you the script,can you help rectify the problems?
[02:35] <lupine_85> ...does sftp have a "continue" option?
[02:35] <anon32> ompaul: I'm using a different source
[02:35] <lupine_85> erm, for "get", I shold say
[02:36] <J> but where do i find it
[02:36] <LjL> newbi3: perhaps you need to install "libelfg0-dev"
[02:36] <oxygene_> J: you are not using a console, are you?
[02:36] <J> wah?
[02:36] <oxygene_> do you use nautilus to copy or move files?
[02:36] <J> what do you mean by console
[02:36] <LjL> !cli
[02:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:37] <newbi3> LjL: i will do it.
[02:37] <lupine_85> powerful == potentially dangerous, of course :)
[02:37] <Renan_s2> !info gobby edgy
[02:37] <ubotu> gobby: collaborative text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 2040 kB
[02:37] <ompaul> anon32, I asked you to use the ubuntu instuctions, as they are for ubuntu, I am not interested in outside suggestions until I have something broken and defined as broken in ubuntu, because a lot of care and attention has gone into ubuntu's docs so I like to know where our advice falls down, not where someone elses does, so really you are not on about what we do there I suppose.
[02:37] <kitche> omegacat: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[02:37] <J> i tried to move it in the folder
[02:37] <anon32> ompaul: my sources are more recent
[02:38] <oxygene_> J: you will probably break your system if you want to access the root folder without knowing the linux basics
[02:38] <newbi3> LjL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH! NOW I COMPILED THE PROGRAM REALLY BIG THANX.
[02:38] <ompaul> anon32, if your sources are more recent you are not using the stable version of ubuntu, so therefor you are on unsupported software
[02:38] <newbi3> i was trying days
[02:38] <ompaul> !shout
[02:38] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:38] <LjL> newbi3: you're welcome... but please don't shout ;)
[02:38] <eXSiR> J, in linux u only have ur home directory,for root and other sub directories u need to be root, so u have to use sudo command before your normal command
[02:38] <newbi3> i installed<PHONE_NUMBER>494 useles things without result :(
[02:38] <J> ok lemme tell you what i need to do then
[02:39] <anon32> ompaul: um... no, this is the last stable version of the driver sources
[02:39] <newbi3> but thank you again:D
[02:39] <newbi3> heheheh
[02:39] <Sktfeelsdapper> I got nicotine to work!!!
[02:39] <newbi3> bye bye! have a nice chaT!
[02:39] <LjL> newbi3: well, then you'll want to hear the rationale behind my suggestion...
[02:39] <LjL> apparently, not
[02:39] <oxygene_> that's sad
[02:39] <cipher|> is there currently a way to install the cgwd package?
[02:39] <LjL> well, he did thank me in caps
[02:40] <Fjodor> lupine_85: wrt to sftp continue, the basic client sucks. You should use lftp or similar instead, and with that, you can easily continue
[02:40] <rodrigo> hello
[02:40] <bur[n] er> cipher|: cgwd's been replaced by beryl... join #beryl
[02:40] <Fjodor> lupine_85: With reget <file>
[02:40] <lupine_85> ah... thanks :)
[02:40] <cipher|> burner: isnt beryl also the replacement for compiz?
[02:40] <bur[n] er> cipher|: emerald is the cgwd replacement rather
[02:40] <kitche> bur[n] er: no it's been replaced by Emerald which is cgwd just renamed
[02:40] <Mr_Scorpio> Okay here is my windows side.
[02:40] <Mr_Scorpio> http://filelabs.net/my.php?file=desktopwinsT1p.jpg
[02:40] <ompaul> anon32, stablity is obtained by using materials that are known to work together,  that is why I refered you to timetable, you are mistaking us for gentoo or some such
[02:41] <rodrigo> helllo
[02:41] <Mr_Scorpio> Hi.
[02:41] <rodrigo> hello mf
[02:41] <rodrigo> algien habla esapol???????????
[02:41] <ompaul> !es
[02:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:41] <J> how would i get my file in the root folder without damaging my computer
[02:41] <anon32> ompaul: err.......
[02:41] <anon32> I'm just saying , can you at least try to help me?
[02:41] <ompaul> anon32, we have ways of doing things I asked you a few times to work with me on that
[02:41] <lupine_85> J: what is the file, why does it need to be in /, and what do you mean by damage?
[02:42] <lupine_85> just having a file sat there is cluttered,but won't kill anything
[02:42] <anon32> I'll get the ones mentioned in the docs too, but I'd like to use the new drivers
[02:42] <anon32> please, at least try?
[02:42] <cipher|> the problem is yesterday i installed edgy + glx + compiz + xgl  and all just works fine. i just need to find a nice theme for compiz ... :(
[02:42] <Mr_Scorpio> hello did someone see my screenshot/
[02:42] <Mr_Scorpio> ?
[02:42] <rodrigo> whats????? tree
[02:42] <LjL> ompaul: how can you refuse
[02:42] <J> they said if i dont know how to use the root folder i could damage my computer
[02:42] <oxygene_> i think he is afraid because of me saying that he will probably break his system when doing superuser things without any knowledge about linux basics ;)
[02:42] <ompaul> LjL, based on time alone
[02:43] <J> and the file is a java file
[02:43] <omegacat> kitche: sry, yes, that is the one i am stuck on... Links to various drivers come with the package. View them via
[02:43] <omegacat> zless /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter/README.gz
[02:43] <omegacat> and pick one to download. Extract the firmware parts and install them to the correct location.
[02:43] <lupine_85> Fjodor: is lftp for ssh?
[02:43] <J> so i can install sun java
[02:43] <lupine_85> it doesn't seem to be picking up my public key
[02:43] <omegacat> I don't know what driver to get from the list, how to extract it, or where to put it.
[02:43] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, well. the ubuntu part would be more interesting
[02:43] <Fjodor> lupine_85: You can lftp sftp://user@host
[02:43] <lupine_85> K: so why does it ned to go in /
[02:43] <LjL> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:43] <Fjodor> lupine_85: It asks for pw, but you can just press enter if you use public keys
[02:43] <diego>
[02:44] <lupine_85> aha, it works :) thanks
[02:44] <Mr_Scorpio> Yes. I'm try to take a shot like that with my bookmarks open but I can't for some reason.
[02:44] <oxygene_> J: "using" the root folder is not dangerous by itself. It's like driving a car. You can crash it easily if you don't know what you do
[02:44] <kitche> omegacat: let me get the driver download for you
[02:44] <oxygene_> usually you don't have to access root folders.
[02:44] <ompaul> anon32, I have done modem stuff following that guide for software that is not on that page - I got the boxes up and running in about 15 mins - man that seems like the easy way to me
[02:44] <lupine_85> ...?
[02:44] <lupine_85> course you do :)
[02:44] <oxygene_> you have your home-folder. why not install the java-program there?
[02:45] <Parabola> Hey I'm trying to get buttons 6 and 7 working on my mouse
[02:45] <Parabola> any ideas?
[02:45] <lupine_85> it's just not generally a good idea to use it :)
[02:45] <anon32> ompaul: yes... but I'd still like to try and get the new ones to work
[02:45] <ompaul> anon32, theother side of the coin is that it is 1:45am and my brain is demanding I put it to sleep
[02:45] <lupine_85> ~, /usr/local, even /opt... but not /
[02:45] <anon32> ok
[02:45] <anon32> sorry then
[02:45] <ompaul> anon32, here is what I suggest
[02:46] <kitche> omegacat: http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/WPCI810g/downloads/WN-WPCI-Web-Update-v1.1.exe then unzip the exe when it gets done downloading tell me when your done
[02:46] <ompaul> grab the new driver, do not use gcc3.4 use 4.0
[02:46] <LjL> anon32, i don't even really know what you're trying to install, but *is* there a reason why you need the new version? which might be 10 times more difficult to install than the "standard" version?
[02:46] <Fjodor> Parabola: You need to set something in xorg.conf. Try to ask in #xorg
[02:46] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, you are right. I can't make a screenshot with an open menu in firefor either
[02:46] <anon32> LjL: mm, true
[02:46] <anon32> ompaul: I'll need to download gcc 4 right?
[02:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> I FINALLY GOT NICOTINE TO WORK
[02:46] <Mr_Scorpio> But I can just describe it to you.
[02:46] <Sktfeelsdapper> For those who know how much trouble I had with it.
[02:47] <ompaul> anon32, just a min - as I said I am in shutdown mode
[02:47] <LjL> anon32: i'm sure you heard about "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" -- if something doesn't have new features that you need, it makes no sense to upgrade
[02:47] <LjL> Sktfeelsdapper: don't shout though, please
[02:47] <Fjodor> Sktfeelsdapper: Very goof for you, but yelling is not too good even so
[02:47] <ompaul> anon32, sudo apt-get install build-essential (it is on your cd)
[02:47] <Mr_Scorpio> The same exact list stretchs all the way to the bottom on my screen almost touching my bottom panel.
[02:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> Yah I know I'm sorry.
[02:47] <anon32> true enough, but the new ones are more stable and have call waiting support
[02:47] <ompaul> anon32, that gives you lots of stuff
[02:47] <Sktfeelsdapper> It's about time though, it's about time.
[02:47] <anon32> ompaul: funny, I've done that alredy
[02:48] <ompaul> anon32, then you have gcc4
[02:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> Now all I wish I could do is make a link to it from my desktop without running at the command line, but it uses python.
[02:48] <anon32> hmm..
[02:48] <ompaul> anon32, so you have the compiler for your kernel version
[02:48] <LjL> anon32: ok, now that's a reason. however, still do balance carefully the time you're likely to spend compiling and getting to work the new drivers against the features they gain you
[02:48] <Sktfeelsdapper> So I'm not sure if that's possible, but at any rate. I'm about to spend alot of time on Nicotine+!
[02:48] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, well. maybe the font is bigger?
[02:48] <oxygene_> or maybe the icons
[02:49] <anon32> I think it's just a bad call
[02:49] <ompaul> LjL, in fairness to the world that page could do with a cleanup
[02:49] <anon32> is there an equivalent I can redirect to?
[02:49] <deedubb> Hello. I'm wondering if anyone knows of an application that will allow me to monitor all read and writes to the filesystem?
[02:49] <Sktfeelsdapper> Anyone have Nicotine btw? Want to become buddies?
[02:50] <deedubb> I would like to know which file was written/read on my ext3 system & how much data was read/written; and which application sent/read it
[02:50] <Mr_Scorpio> Yeah I think it might be the icons but I'm not sure what are the system defaults for applicatons and all in windows.
[02:50] <omegacat> kitche: ok, i have downloaded and unzipped that exe
[02:50] <Mr_Scorpio> that made no sense.
[02:50] <anon32> you unzipped an exe??
[02:50] <Mr_Scorpio> sorry
[02:50] <ompaul> anon32, dude we have been helping here for a long time - hate to burst your bubble you can use the driver but you have to work with the O/S at some level and the level that is on the page
[02:50] <LjL> ompaul: DialupModemHowto?
[02:51] <ompaul> LjL, yeap
[02:51] <J> how do i use the sudo command
[02:51] <ompaul> LjL, it is a bit of adog
[02:51] <LjL> !tell j about sudo
[02:51] <omegacat> anon32: yes
[02:51] <deedubb> sudo <somecommand> then enter your username passowrd
[02:51] <Mr_Scorpio> Yeah I think it might be the fonts but I'm not sure what are the system defaults fonts for applicatons and all in windows.
[02:51] <eXSiR> put sudo before any command
[02:51] <deedubb> sudo requires you be in the "admin" group by default
[02:51] <ompaul> LjL, it is all there but it is a tad verbose
[02:51] <thedash> does RAID5 have limitations on the number of disks you can use?
[02:51] <deedubb> man sudoers for more information; your sudoers file is /etc/sudoers
[02:51] <eXSiR> like "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"
[02:51] <LjL> ompaul: guess that the fact that most people who're into computing have broadband these days doesn't help :\
[02:52] <kitche> omegacat: ok cd to the folder that says the driver part
[02:52] <oxygene_> Mr_Scorpio, System-->Preferences-->Font
[02:52] <ompaul> LjL, that is true
[02:52] <omegacat> kitche: ok
[02:52] <oxygene_> see if it helps to change the application font size
[02:52] <ompaul> LjL, but ubuntu would not have been able to grow as well as it has withtout same - you could not edit the wiki pages on dialup and do the other work alongside it etc
[02:52] <kitche> omegacat: ok now fwcutter bcmwl5*.sys run that command tell me when you have ran it
[02:53] <omegacat> should i sudo to run it?
[02:53] <stu__> how do I change my sound to optical out ??
[02:53] <kitche> omegacat: not yet
[02:53] <LjL> ompaul: oh, there's a lot of things you *can* do (even concurrently) while on dialup, you just have not to throw your modem against a wall before you find out how =)
[02:53] <deedubb> if you use linux at home - I like to use %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL; it keeps you from getting annoyed with password prompts and it makes it so you don't run all apps as root by default
[02:54] <ompaul> LjL, heh
[02:54] <LjL> ompaul: anyway, by looking at it i suppose i could give that page some cuts here and there, even without knowing too much about dialup anymore... just for instance, the winmodem rant could just become a short sentence and a link to wikipedia imho
[02:54] <deedubb> and its not really less secure because none of the daemons are in the admin group
[02:54] <deedubb> the only thing is physical security; your brother etc might find it funny to rm -rf /
[02:54] <ompaul> yep or demote it to the end of the page
[02:55] <ompaul> get the work done with the explainations at the foot
[02:55] <ompaul> LjL, actually join me in #ubuntu-doc
[02:55] <omegacat> kitche: ok, i think it gave me an error though
[02:55] <deedubb> Anyone have a ext3 filesystem watcher?
[02:55] <kitche> omegacat can you output the error in here? It might be an error probably says use newer firmware
[02:56] <omegacat> yes, that is what i think it is
[02:56] <omegacat> ok, hold on
[02:56] <canute> Is it possible to parse the output of a command through a python script? Something along the lines of "ls -a | python myscript.py" ?
[02:56] <monkey89> can i install a server using the desktop cd
[02:56] <dagi3d> hi, I have just upgraded to edgy and now I cannot start a new session with gdm
[02:56] <monkey89> (edgy beta)
[02:58] <kitche> omegacat: well you can try sudo make installfw
[02:58] <omegacat2> kitche:
[02:58] <chuckyp> test
[02:58] <oxygene_> deedubb, do you want to monitor a file or the whole partition?
[02:58] <deedubb> whole partition
[02:58] <BeepAU> ok, i'm trying to install toxine. it tells me i need readline. i looked around, and there's a bunch. does anyone know which one i should install?
[02:59] <omegacat2> fwcutter can cut the firmware out of bcmwl5.sys filename :  bcmwl5.sys version  :  <IP_ADDRESS> MD5      :  0c3fc803184f6f85e665dd012611225b
[02:59] <chuckyp> !toxine
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_microcode2.fw ...
[02:59] <oxygene_> I don't know of a tool, but you could hook into some kernel calls
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_microcode4.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_microcode5.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: Sorry, it's not posible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode11.fw".
[02:59] <oxygene_> but that's overkill =)
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: Extracting firmware from an old driver is bad. Choose a more recent one.
[02:59] <kitche> omegacat2: stop
[02:59] <chuckyp> BeepAU: toxine is the name of the package?
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: Luckily bcm43xx driver doesn't include microcode11 uploads at the moment.
[02:59] <omegacat2> *****: But this can be added in the future...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_pcm4.fw ...
[02:59] <chuckyp> !tell omegacat2 about paste
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_pcm5.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval01.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval02.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat> kitche: oops
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval03.fw ...
[02:59] <deedubb> oxygene_, don't make me learn how to code please -- it must be done for me, it's why I use linux ;)
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval04.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval05.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval06.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat> i already pasted it all =(
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval07.fw ...
[02:59] <eXSiR> :D:DD
[02:59] <SpudDogg> Has anyone here ever manually configured GRUB to boot into backtrack?
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval08.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval09.fw ...
[02:59] <omegacat2> extracting bcm43xx_initval10.fw ...
[02:59] <kitche> omegacat2: that's why you don't paste
[03:00] <deedubb> does lsof have that ability?
[03:00] <BeepAU> chuckyp - toxine-0.6.3.tar.gz , it's a xine frontend.
[03:00] <omegacat> kitche: i thought you asked me to =(
[03:00] <claw___> 8uiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiijjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjpl'''
[03:00] <claw___> '
[03:00] <chuckyp> BeepAU: and what do you need to build it?
[03:00] <claw___> #whooop
[03:00] <claw___> ss
[03:00] <claw___> sorry
[03:00] <chuckyp> BeepAU: err. what is your problem?
[03:00] <claw___> coming from oktoberfest ^_
[03:01] <kitche> omegacat: well you can use a pastebin or whatever but that's ok now do a sudo make installfw
[03:01] <BeepAU> chuckyp - i went ./configure , it told me i needed xinelib, so i installed that, now it says no readline found, toxine can't build. so, i guess i need to get the readline.
[03:01] <notig> hi
[03:02] <chuckyp> BeepAU: I don't believe readline is a package name.
[03:02] <eXSiR> hi notig
[03:02] <omegacat> kitche: make: command not found
[03:02] <omegacat> ?
[03:02] <oxygene_> deedubb, try http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/
[03:02] <kitche> omegacat ah you have to install make
[03:02] <BeepAU> chuckyp - what is it?
[03:02] <chuckyp> BeepAU: sounds like a problem with the source.  Have you followed the instructions?
[03:02] <omegacat> kitche: okie, let me apt get it
[03:02] <oxygene_> it doesn't tell you how many bytes are written though
[03:02] <eXSiR> omegacat: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:03] <J> ok so how do i put my shit in the root folder
[03:03] <eXSiR> u dont have make command to compile
[03:03] <oxygene_> but if your kernel is recent and supports inotify you can be informed of access and modify eventy
[03:03] <oxygene_> *s
[03:03] <BeepAU> chuckyp - i didn't see any instructions. i'm following a guide called how to install anything in ubuntu
[03:03] <J> i dont know how to use that sudo thing
[03:04] <Mr_Scorpio> Thanks. Oxygene_ it's not the same but it'll do.
[03:04] <cschneid> anybody know how to contact a freenode op?
[03:04] <chuckyp> BeepAU: ahh is there a readme in the directory were you extracted the tar.gz?
[03:04] <omegacat> J you put sudo in front of the command you want to run
[03:04] <kitche> cschneid: maybe #freenode?
[03:04] <chuckyp> BeepAU: err a file named INSTALL?
[03:04] <omegacat> J and the pw is just your regular pw
[03:05] <chuckyp> BeepAU: usually source packages have directions in the tar.gz i.e. a INSTALL or README or possibly both
[03:05] <deedubb> oxygene_, I think gnome's task manager has it too, too bad this is a server
[03:05] <eXSiR> J, try this "sudo mv /where/isyour/filename /root"
[03:05] <BeepAU> chuckyp - there's an install
[03:06] <BeepAU> chuckyp - should i just double-click it?
[03:06] <J> do i do that in the terminal
[03:06] <eXSiR> J, when it asks your password, enter your regular password
[03:06] <chuckyp> BeepAU: yeah it should just a be a plain text file of instructions
[03:06] <eXSiR> yes in terminal
[03:06] <omegacat2> kitche: make: *** No rule to make target `installfw'.  Stop.
[03:06] <ctron> Hey does anyone know how dbg library packages are supposed to work?  They install stuff into /usr/lib/debug, but then what?
[03:07] <ctron> Am I supposed to get executables to use them with LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[03:07] <jrib> ctron: it just installs the symbols so you can get a meaningful backtrace afaik
[03:07] <deedubb> how do I list files install by package foo?
[03:08] <oxygene_> deedubb, what exactly do you want to measure?
[03:08] <kitche> omegacat2: do an ls and see if you see a folder either fw or firmware
[03:08] <ExxonValdeez> how do i edit my path?
[03:08] <deedubb> oxygene_ some I/O seems very slow & takes a long time on my system, trying to figure out why
[03:08] <ExxonValdeez> i want to put gcc in it but i have no idea how.
[03:08] <J> for some reason when i try to type my password my nothing happens
[03:08] <ctron> jrib: How do I do that exactly, though?
[03:08] <BeepAU> chuckyp - the instructions tell me to do what i was already doing
[03:08] <J> its not typing
[03:08] <omegacat2> kitche: i see a lot of files that end with .fw?
[03:09] <kitche> omegacat2: in the folder your in?
[03:09] <ctron> jrib: Case in point, I have an app that links against gtk+ that I'm having trouble with, so I installed the -dbg packages for gtk+ and glib...
[03:09] <chuckyp> BeepAU: does it say anything about dependencies or packages needed in there?
[03:09] <omegacat2> yes, i am in ~/WN-WPCI Driver and Utility
[03:09] <eXSiR> J, look at your root folder pls, it should be copied
[03:09] <eXSiR> or moved
[03:09] <chuckyp> BeepAU: I would just make sure you meet all of those.
[03:09] <kitche> omegacat2: http://random.blackworlds.org/bcm43xx-how-to.txt that is what I m following by the way
[03:10] <J> but my password thing isnt working
[03:10] <J> it wont let me type
[03:10] <jrib> ctron: I've never done that before, but here are the wiki instructions for a backtrace https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[03:10] <kitche> K yes it is typing you can't see what you type for a password
[03:10] <kitche> opps J*
[03:11] <ctron> jrib: Yeah I know how to use gdb
[03:11] <Dr_willis> not working... :) lol
[03:11] <J> oh
[03:11] <kitche> J it won't show you what your typing for password:
[03:11] <Dr_willis> In the old days - that how it worked... :)
[03:11] <Dr_willis> 'non-echoing'
[03:12] <J> it said root is not a directory
[03:12] <J> FUCK this is pissing me off
[03:12] <kitche> Dr_willis: it's also a good idea for non-echoing
[03:12] <eXSiR> what command did u enter?
[03:12] <eXSiR> J?
[03:12] <J> sudo mv /desktop /jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip/ roo
[03:12] <kitche> J /root is a directory but not root if you didn't make one
[03:12] <deedubb> dpkg -L foo worked, thanks
[03:12] <jrib> ctron: you might be able to get help in the channel for the language you are working in
[03:12] <omegacat> kitche: is it relevant that i am using the 64 bit version?
[03:13] <eXSiR> sudo mv /home/your_username/Desktop/jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip /root
[03:13] <kitche> omegacat: yes :)
[03:13] <eXSiR> try this
[03:13] <J> what command should i use
[03:13] <ctron> jrib: Thanks
[03:13] <Alakazam_> "i command thee" usually works
[03:13] <kitche> omegacat: but just follow that link I posted and it should work
[03:13] <jrib> ctron: the only thing I've used dbg packages for are for programs like firefox, so I don't know what special things you have to do to get info about the libraries.  gl though
[03:13] <chuckyp> Alakazam_: rofl
[03:13] <Alakazam_> lol
[03:13] <chuckyp> Move a says me?
[03:14] <J> what command should i use
[03:14] <omegacat> what is softmac?
[03:14] <eXSiR> J, sudo mv /home/your_username/Desktop/jdk-1_5_0-doc.zip /root
[03:14] <omegacat> should i get that first?
[03:14] <omegacat> do i have that already?
[03:14] <kitche> omegacat: softmac is what is needed to use broadcom natively so it should be compiled in ubuntu's kernel already
[03:15] <deedubb> oxygene_; got it - misconfiguration of clamd was a leader
[03:15] <omegacat> kitche: i have the cd that came with the laptop maybe there are drivers on that?
[03:16] <kitche> omegacat: maybe but the readme is what you want to use
[03:16] <omegacat> ok
[03:16] <ctron> jrib: Hmmm gdb is supposed to use them automatically...  but I'm using a gdb built from the original sources, perhaps that's the problem
[03:16] <chrisjw> hi
[03:17] <J> that command didn't work
[03:17] <eXSiR> J, i am getting tired :)
[03:17] <J> SO AM I
[03:17] <ctron> Well, I guess I'll build my own debug libs
[03:17] <ctron> Bummer
[03:17] <eXSiR> try to google for newbee commands for linux
[03:17] <J> i been trying for a day
[03:17] <kitche> J: did you replace your_username with your actual username
[03:17] <J> yes
[03:17] <unfknblvbl> ubuntu.com has those desktop guides that help ALOT
[03:18] <omegacat> kitche: the one i have doesn't have a bcmwl564.sys?
[03:18] <eXSiR> not desktop Desktop u know?
[03:18] <omegacat> did i get the wrong one maybe?
[03:18] <eXSiR> case-sensitive
[03:18] <J> what do you mean not destop
[03:18] <kitche> omegacat: well what do you have?
[03:18] <unfknblvbl> 0.o
[03:18] <J> i know i put my real user name
[03:18] <chuckyp> J: the capitol letter in Desktop vs. desktop  is a big difference
[03:18] <J> like my log in name right
[03:19] <eXSiR> no i mean ur dekstop's name is Desktop
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> oh no
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> hang on
[03:19] <eXSiR> u should use D
[03:19] <ZigGaag> Ubuntu rocks your fucking socks off.
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> how'd he no ?
[03:19] <karl> anyone know port forwarding with ssh?
[03:19] <unfknblvbl> *know
[03:19] <bruenig> !language
[03:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:20] <chuckyp> !tell karl about anyone
[03:20] <unfknblvbl> eXSiR: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html
[03:20] <chuckyp> lol
[03:20] <eXSiR> tell J, he needs it :)
[03:20] <karl> hehe
[03:20] <omegacat> kitche: i just used that paste bin thing?
[03:21] <chuckyp> J: sudo mv /path/to/file /destination
[03:21] <unfknblvbl> o
[03:21] <kitche> omegacat: did you get the url for it?
[03:21] <unfknblvbl> J: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html
[03:21] <chuckyp> J: the sudo command is used because you ar putting the file in /root
[03:21] <THX-1138> alias ME='whoami  $1 '
[03:21] <omegacat2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25367/
[03:21] <omegacat> yes =)
[03:22] <karl> alright. I have a web server, server A, that has a firewall rule so that it wont serve port 80 to anything outside of its network. I know a server login for server B within that network. I want to port forward port 80 to my home computer, so that I can access the webserver on server A
[03:22] <kitche> omegacat: that's because you did bcmwl5*.sys the asterisk is a wildcard
[03:23] <omegacat> oh. there wasn't one before either though? I scrolled up and there never was one? Is that what i am making?
[03:24] <cafuego> omegacat: Just use the package; http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[03:25] <eXSiR> guys, i love ubuntu, i love ubuntu helpers and i love who wanna be part of ubuntu, but i g2g :)
[03:25] <eXSiR> have fun
[03:25] <eXSiR> bye all
[03:27] <omegacat> cafuego: I jsut apt get that?
[03:27] <karl> alright. I have a web server, server A, that has a firewall rule so that it wont serve port 80 to anything outside of its network. I know a server login for server B within that network. I want to port forward port 80 to my home computer, so that I can access the webserver on server A
[03:27] <chuckyp> omegacat: what are you trying to install?
[03:27] <cafuego> omegacat: You cna if you set it up per the instructions on that page. otherwise, download the deb file and use 'sudo dpkg -i <debfile>'
[03:28] <omegacat> chuckyp: i'm trying to make my wifi work
[03:29] <chuckyp> omegacat: are you lebski88 on the forums?
[03:29] <radar1976> which is the best command line package manager for ubuntu
[03:29] <cafuego> radar1976: aptitude probably.
[03:29] <factotum> yeah, aptitude totaly
[03:29] <omegacat> cafuego: what am i supposed to apt get from there? I added the sources
[03:30] <cafuego> omegacat: Now go to the font page and import the gpg key.
[03:30] <Tokenbad> there is no way to mount cue/bin files in ubuntu is there?
[03:30] <cafuego> Tokenbad: Not unless you convert them to iso (using bchunk) first.
[03:30] <oxygene_> I've created a patch for metacity and copied it to debian/patches. can you tell me how I package it with the patch applied? is there a howto for this available?
[03:30] <krazykit> radar1976: aptitude.
[03:30] <Tokenbad> I could never get bchunk to work
[03:31] <cafuego> oxygene_: Add the file to debian/patches/00list; then build as per usual.
[03:31] <cafuego> Tokenbad: Than no, there isn't.
[03:31] <omegacat> chuckyp: no?
[03:31] <oxygene_> there's not per usual for me but I'll check the ubuntu wiki for it
[03:31] <Alth> Hey everyone. Just installed Dapper on a friend's new PC, and I'm having a bit of trouble with apt and repositories...can't seem to install anything, it won't find the packages.
[03:31] <cafuego> omegacat: After adding the gpg key, 'sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-firmware'.
[03:33] <omegacat> chuckyp: no?
[03:33] <xenoNfluX> alth, can't find anything at all?
[03:33] <omegacat> cafuego: will that work even if i added the key wrong?
[03:33] <cafuego> omegacat: Nope
[03:33] <krazykit> cafuego: oh, sweet, you have the firmware packaged! nifty
[03:33] <cafuego> omegacat: Actually, it probably will, you just need to tell it you want the package even if the key check fails.
[03:34] <Alth> xenoNfluX: - I think there's a problem with my repositories. Even copy-pasting exact file names from the wiki etc, I get package not found.
[03:34] <omegacat> cafuego: I will try that because I pasted it exactly and it looks l still managed to not do it right.
[03:35] <Alth> Example - E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[03:35] <xenoNfluX> Alth, ahhhhh... I know what you need to do
[03:35] <Alth> I'm glad :P
[03:35] <omegacat> 'sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-firmware' that right?
[03:35] <cafuego> omegacat: yup
[03:36] <omegacat> ok, it looks like it worked without the key =)
[03:36] <Jaksh_Eet> Howdy
[03:36] <xenoNfluX> Alth, have you enabled universe/multiverse repositories?
[03:36] <Alth> xenoNfluX: - Yeah.
[03:36] <xenoNfluX> have you hit Reload?
[03:36] <Jaksh_Eet> Anyone know how to fix Teamspeak? it takes over my sound and I cant hear my games
[03:36] <xenoNfluX> or Refresh, I forget
[03:37] <omegacat> cafuego: now what do i do?
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> I'm not on my Ubuntu machine right now
[03:37] <Alth> Reload/refresh where?
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> within Synaptic
[03:37] <Alth> Using command line apt-get.
[03:37] <cafuego> omegacat: Unload the bcm43xx driver and reload it. 'sudo rmmod bcm43xx; sudo modprobe bcm43xx'.
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> or I believe 'sudo apt-get reload' will work
[03:37] <Alth> Ah, ok, I'll try that :)
[03:37] <bruenig> sudo apt-get update
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> update, yes
[03:37] <xenoNfluX> I was just about to SSH into my server to check :)
[03:38] <SuperLag> Is there a way to bypass the LiveCD portion and go straight to the installer, so that the resources are dedicated to the install process?
[03:38] <Alth> Ok, looks like that was what I forgot :$
[03:38] <Alth> Thanks guys :)
[03:38] <Alth> I knew there was something. I feel stupid now :P
[03:38] <malice_> Anyone here use a wireless card for there laptop like one from Cingular?
[03:38] <Jaksh_Eet> Anyone know how to fix Teamspeak? it takes over my sound and I cant hear my games
[03:38] <xenoNfluX> hehe no problem
[03:38] <sureshot> is jack_sparrow here tonight
[03:38] <Kyler> In edgy, is there any problem with linking /bash to /bin/sh (instead of dash)?  I was banging my head against compile problems for quite awhile before I figured out it was dash.
[03:38] <Neo8750>  [
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> No
[03:39] <bruenig> Kyler, #ubuntu+1
[03:39] <omegacat> cafuego ok, i did that
[03:39] <sureshot> good jack_sparrow i would like to ask you a question
[03:39] <cafuego> omegacat: 'sudo iwconfig'
[03:39] <Kyler> bruenig: Thanks!
[03:39] <sureshot> what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey sureshot whats up, I'm just printing some code to find a bug
[03:40] <tjb891> can anyone tell me how to add a nonstandard repository?
[03:40] <sureshot> you could always email me your cribsheet lol
[03:40] <omegacat> cafuego: it said stuff to me? should i show you?
[03:40] <bruenig> tjb891, you edit the /etc/apt/sources.list, add the line for the repo then do sudo apt-get update, or hit reload in synaptic after you add the line
[03:40] <sureshot> jack_sparrow what is wrong with the syntax of this like could anyond tell me.. deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> sureshot: Join #Jack_Sparrow so we can talk about what you are trying to do.
[03:42] <brian98> Hello all :)
[03:42] <bruenig> !offtopic
[03:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.  I installed Kubuntu from a CD i received today and chose for it to install on /dev/sda3.  It installed fine, but my computer still reboots into windows.  How do I boot into Kubuntu?
[03:44] <bruenig> but it is kind of absurd to say hello or pleasantries are to be disallowed
[03:44] <bruenig> especially for a distro that supports humanity to others
[03:45] <chuckyp> wow well time for me to go to sleep.  lol
[03:45] <omegacat> cafuego: now should I be able to just go to network settings and turn it on?
[03:45] <Xyz_> rescue root=/dev/sda3 fails.
[03:45] <cafuego> omegacat: As long as it said it found a wireless interface you'll be right.
[03:45] <brian98> bruenig, I do my best to help people here and I was just saying hello as I've been away for 11 hours
[03:45] <cafuego> omegacat: Install 'network-manager-gnome' and then add the network manager applet to the Gnome panel.
[03:46] <root___> How the hell is debian playing this mp3 out of the box
[03:46] <omegacat> cafuego it has always showed a wireless interface, it just hasn't worked.
[03:46] <root___> I thought that was agaisnt copywrite
[03:46] <brian98> now thats offtopic!
[03:46] <brian98> lol
[03:46] <root___>  I know its not debian.
[03:46] <bruenig> root___, i believe they have a room, perhaps #debian is the name
[03:46] <cafuego> omegacat: Which one is is, eth1?
[03:46] <bruenig> channel*
[03:47] <omegacat> cafuego: yes
[03:47] <cafuego> omegacat: iwlist eth1 scan'
[03:47] <Xyz_> is there a channel where i could get help? :)
[03:47] <cafuego> omegacat: If it works, that should show you the available networks.
[03:47] <brian98> your there Xyz_
[03:48] <brian98> I've just finished playing with edgy on a brand new laptop
[03:48] <brian98> not too bad at all
[03:48] <rjian> ello people i need help.... im currently using Ubuntu it is possible to change it to kubuntu?
[03:48] <bruenig> edgy seems the same
[03:48] <oxygene_> hehe. first ubuntu patch submitted. I'm kind of proud now =)
[03:48] <brian98> rjian,
[03:48] <brian98> rjian, very easy
[03:48] <omegacat2> cafuego: eth1      No scan results
[03:48] <xenoNfluX> rjian, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:48] <brian98> rjian, sudo aptitude update
[03:48] <Neo8750> sudo apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <unfknblvbl> ew kubuntu
[03:49] <brian98> no
[03:49] <cafuego> omegacat; Any errors in`dmesg' to go with that?
[03:49] <brian98> dont apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <rjian> how about if theres no internet connection is it possible?
[03:49] <brian98> whatever you do
[03:49] <brian98> dont apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <Neo8750> brian98: i have done it and it worked perfectly fine
[03:49] <bruenig> rjian, do sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, then do the command on this page here to remove all of ubuntu http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:49] <omegacat> cafuegoL are you going to laugh at me if i ask you where to find dmesg?
[03:49] <hoboi> Xyz_: just joined channel help w/what
[03:50] <brian98> Neo8750, try to remove it ;)
[03:50] <rjian> brian98: how about is theres no internet connection is it ok??
[03:50] <brian98> You need a connection
[03:50] <brian98> rjian, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[03:50] <brian98> Neo8750, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205002
[03:50] <brian98> If you use apt-get
[03:50] <brian98> it's a real pain in the *** to get rid of
[03:50] <brian98> if you need to
[03:50] <rjian> how about if i dont have a net connection.. i only have cds of kubuntu..
[03:51] <Neo8750> so thats kde =P
[03:51] <jrib> rjian: add the cd as a repository
[03:51] <bruenig> rjian, just reformat and install the kubuntu cds
[03:51] <MrWok> Is there a way to connect my Xubuntu box to my XP box and share the internet from the XP box to the Xubuntu box?
[03:51] <omegacat> cafuegoL I am not sure?
[03:51] <MrWok> Over ethernet
[03:51] <omegacat> er
[03:51] <Xyz_> hoboi: i just installed kubuntu to sda3 so i can dual-boot, but i only boot into windows. i reinstalled and have the same problem.
[03:51] <brian98> MrWok, easier the other way round!
[03:51] <omegacat> cafuego: I am not sure?
[03:52] <MrWok> Brian98: not possible to do that right now.
[03:52] <oxygene_> MrWok, the other way round would be easier =)
[03:52] <bruenig> !grub > Xyz_
[03:52] <rjian> jrib: i will just add the cd as repositor??
[03:52] <cafuego> omegacat: Nothing about missing firmware files>?
[03:52] <brian98> MrWok, then you can do it...
[03:52] <brian98> just not so easy
[03:52] <snake> For those who were just complaining of my offtopicy, heres where I was getting to: How does debian play mp3 out of the box, when its illigal for ubuntu to include it
[03:52] <brian98> one sec
[03:52] <MrWok> Thanks
[03:52] <Xyz_> bruenig: i can't install grub from the livecd
[03:52] <brian98> snake, !mp3
[03:53] <bruenig> snake, it is illegal, if debian does it, they are breaking the law at least in the U.S.
[03:53] <rjian> brian98: is it ok to add the cds as repositor?
[03:53] <jrib> rjian: yes, you can put the cd in your drive.  Then it may be autodetected and added.  If not, go to system > administration > synaptic.  Then go to the edit > add cdrom menu item.  Then install kubuntu-desktop, it will fetch the package from the cd's
[03:53] <snake> bruenig: Im aware, all I know is I just installed a fresh nilla debian and its playing mp3s.
[03:53] <bruenig> Xyz_, read some of those links, I think they tell you how to do, especially the one that says "lost grub after installing windows"
[03:53] <brian98> rjian, have you done much installing or customizing of your ubuntu setup?
[03:53] <omegacat2> cafuego: no, here is the end of dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25368/
[03:54] <bruenig> snake, ok what is your point, They broke the law therefore ubuntu can? If I murder and get away with it does that mean that it is legal to murder. Check your logic.
[03:54] <CheekyBoinc> Debian do not support mp3..default
[03:54] <snake> CheekyBoinc: I just did a netinstall and its on here, and I am freaking out.
[03:54] <brian98> snake, google is your friend
[03:54] <MrWok> MrWok !mp3
[03:54] <Xyz_> bruenig: oh, ok. i didn't see the message window. thanks.
[03:55] <brian98> and possibly your worst enemy :S
[03:55] <MrWok> Can someone do the MP3 thing to me, I'd like to read it
[03:55] <cafuego> omegacat: hurray, it's working ;-)  Maybe reboot, just to be sure everything laods correctly.
[03:55] <omegacat2> ok
[03:55] <brian98> !mp3
[03:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <jrib> MrWok: /msg ubotu mp3
[03:55] <bruenig> MrWok, you can do it to yourself. Just do !mp3 > MrWok
[03:55] <MrWok> !mp3 MrWok
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 MrWok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <bruenig> you have to use the greater than sign
[03:56] <brian98> :D
[03:56] <jrib> bruenig: doesn't http://www.fluendo.com/resources/fluendo_mp3.php allow legal mp3 decoding?
[03:56] <omegacat> cafuego: should i unplug my wired network?
[03:56] <MrWok> !mp3 > MrWok
[03:56] <omegacat> will it be weir with both?
[03:56] <MrWok> Thanks
[03:56] <CheekyBoinc> you install the codec yourself through netinstall! Not Debian ^^
[03:56] <omegacat> *weird
[03:56] <bruenig> jrib, I was only attacking the logic, not the truthfulness of his claim...
[03:56] <brian98> someone sent me a great line b4 about the costs of packaging mp3 decoders with an os
[03:56] <eetfunk> i'm having problems installing php4-cgi.  Here's the error I get:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/LE2mMt57.html can anyone help me please?
[03:57] <cafuego> omegacat: Both should work fine.
[03:57] <jrib> bruenig: oh ok, I wasn't really following the conersation
[03:57] <bruenig> but my thought is the same as CheekyBoinc, the net install probably gets it which is not related directly do debian. The same as when you use repositories in ubuntu
[03:57] <CheekyBoinc> Jepp :)
[03:58] <brian98> eetfunk, sudo mkdir /usr/share/php4/php.ini-dist
[03:58] <brian98> and run again
[03:58] <rjian>  jrib: its not working its still looking for internet connection
[03:58] <jrib> rjian: disable the online repositories
[03:58] <oxygene_> mkdir?
[03:58] <oxygene_> is it a directory?
[03:59] <eetfunk> brian98 : i tried it, same error
[03:59] <brian98> eetfunk, sorry
[03:59] <brian98> I am half asleep
[03:59] <oxygene_> try reinstalling php4-common
[03:59] <omegacat> yay! it says it is active
[03:59] <omegacat> ilu cafuego and kitche
[03:59] <Xyz_> bruenig: thank you. i'll try those.
[04:00] <eetfunk> oxygene_: just did, and it also gives me the same error
[04:00] <eetfunk> weird
[04:00] <omegacat> thank you guys *sooooo* much
[04:00] <oxygene_> eetfunk, with dapper?
[04:00] <eetfunk> yes
[04:00] <sureshot> someone gave me an url to aixgl and compiz and i have seemed to have lost it would any one on here know what that was
[04:00] <oxygene_> what does ls -alF /usr/share/php4/php.* say?
[04:00] <eetfunk> i think i cleaned some files that were required a little earlier
[04:01] <brian98> eetfunk, cd /usr/share/php4
[04:01] <brian98> eetfunk, sudo nano php.ini-dist
[04:01] <brian98> then ctrl o
[04:01] <brian98> to save
[04:01] <brian98> and see if it gives the same error
[04:01] <oxygene_> if you just created the folder with mkdir, remove it
[04:01] <oxygene_> php.ini-dist should be a regular file
[04:01] <brian98> he can rm that dir when he tries that
[04:02] <oxygene_> php.ini-dist is provided by php4-common
[04:02] <cpl-tnt44> any know how can i install ubuntu to my laptop if my laptop dont have a cdrom ?
[04:02] <oxygene_> so reinstalling it should recreate it
[04:02] <brian98> I just found why mp3 isn't bundled with ubuntu :)
[04:02] <omegacat> wow! my wireless light is on!!!!!
[04:02] <brian98> http://www.mp3licensing.com/
[04:02] <eetfunk> ok i think i got it.  created the dir manually, removed php4-common and cgi, and reinstalled
[04:02] <eetfunk> thanks guyd :)
[04:02] <eetfunk> guys
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> some 1 plz ? Installing ubuntu without a cd-rom ? possible or just a dream ?
[04:03] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, possible!
[04:03] <brian98> You got a 1 gig usb key?
[04:03] <oxygene_> and also a dream ;)
[04:03] <rjian> jrib: hmm still not working.. can u give me a guide??
[04:03] <lakin> Hey, anyone know of a database administration tool for data, IE databases, tables, rows (similar to navicat), but free as in Libre ?
[04:03] <brian98> lakin, for what db?
[04:03] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 (Privet plz)
[04:03] <lakin> ideally for any, but a mysql specific one will do.
[04:04] <brian98> ok
[04:04] <cafuego> lakin: mysqladmin; otheriws eopenoffice base plugs into a mysql server via jdbc
[04:04] <brian98> lakin, sudo apt-get install mysql-query-browser
[04:05] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, in the channel only, sorry
[04:05] <lakin> cafuego: hrrm, mysqladmin isn't quite what I'm looking for.
 installing without a cd rom ?
 i took out my HD and plugged it in to a USB2 drive on my desktop computer
 im planning to copy the files that on the ubuntu iso to anather paratition in my HD and install from that paratition ,but i can't find the exeuction files to run it ...
[04:05] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:06] <cpl-tnt44> brian waiting for a comment from u
[04:06] <lakin> cafuego: but thanks. :)
[04:07] <sureshot> someone gave me an url to aixgl and compiz and i have seemed to have lost it would any one on here know what that was
[04:07] <brian98> cpl-tnt44,  what os on the pc now?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> !aixgl
[04:07] <cpl-tnt44> XP Pro
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <lakin> brian98: mysql-query-browser is close .. I'll keep playing with it, but it crashed within the first 30 seconds of me using it.   /me heads off to file a bug report.
[04:08] <lakin> thanks guys.
[04:08] <brian98> !aiglx
[04:08] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[04:08] <brian98> lakin: it's not the best :)
[04:08] <brian98> lakin: I used to use mysqladmin
[04:08] <Zardiac> Hi, I just have a quick question, I am using a japanese keyboard, (113 keys i think) And it almost works perfectly but there is some characters I cannot use, so I wonder if there is a way to edit the keyboard layout a  little and make the keys work? It is some keys wich is used togehter with altgr
[04:08] <brian98> but it's been closed down :(
[04:09] <eRadic8r> need xorg.conf help...any takers?
[04:09] <cpl-tnt44> wellz brian98 is it possible to run the installation from MS DOS ?
[04:09] <sureshot> so does anyone know the url for the aiglx howto
[04:09] <brian98> eRadic8r, go on
[04:09] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, I asked you what os, you just have dos installed?
[04:09] <booge> does ubuntu have vpn software?
[04:10] <eRadic8r> i have a dell 8100 laptop nvidia 32mb geforce 2go everything is loading but fails on setting display mode
[04:10] <chemaja> booge, for which vpn
[04:10] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, download rawrite2.exe and sbm.bin off the internet (do a search)
[04:10] <unfknblvbl> 32mb whoa
[04:10] <cpl-tnt44> brian 98 , im talking now from a desktop winxp pro sp2 computer installed on , i wanna install the ubuntu to an old compaq PIII 500 64MB 40GB notepad
[04:10] <booge> i want to vpn into work
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, yea... what vpn type is it
[04:11] <eRadic8r> yea i know...
[04:11] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, Once you have these files, put them both in the same folder.
[04:11] <booge> i dont know
[04:11] <oxygene_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows could possibly help you
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, ask your sysadmin
[04:11] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[04:11] <cpl-tnt44> will they work from dos ?
[04:11] <booge> in windows i just chose add a vpn connection
[04:11] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75367
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, then it's probably PPTP
[04:11] <chemaja> booge, check out http://pptpclient.sf.net
[04:11] <brian98> cpl-tnt44, it's there
[04:11] <booge> thanks
[04:12] <brian98> yes, it works from dos
[04:12] <chemaja> booge, what i do is install pptp-linux from ubuntu universe, then use the manual setup instructions from that website
[04:12] <cpl-tnt44> brian98 ,thanks i will look into it
[04:12] <chemaja> booge, alternatively, you can add their apt repo and use their gui front end
[04:12] <brian98> pptp is a pain in the ass if the router your connecting to (pix for eg) isn't configured right
[04:12] <brian98> linux is much fussier than windows
[04:12] <brian98> sorry that was meant to be pain in the ***
[04:13] <sureshot> i found that url for the aiglx it is as follows http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-dapper/
[04:13] <booge> chemaja do i install it from source?
[04:13] <chemaja> booge, no
[04:13] <chemaja> booge, they've got really good instructions on that site. you can a) follow the instructions for Ubuntu or b) install pptp-linux from Ubuntu Universe and use their manual setup instructions
[04:13] <chemaja> booge, all options deal with just binary packages, no source
[04:14] <booge> ok
[04:14] <booge> thanks
[04:14] <Arafangion> Howdy folks, I've booted up a computer using the Ubuntu 6.06 live cd, apart from taking *ages* to load (nevermind about that, not important), the issue I've got is the mouse is completely unresponsive. (Serial mouse)
[04:14] <chemaja> booge, no problems :D
[04:14] <Arafangion> So, once X11 and gnome has finished loading, there is no way to move the mouse cursor.  Any suggestions?
[04:14] <brian98> Arafangion, is it working at all?
[04:15] <Cale> there seems to be a problem with drscheme/mzscheme in dapper -- in particular, the installation script fails (although it seems as if the software is properly installed). Does anyone know about this?
[04:15] <Arafangion> brian98: What do you mean by "at all?"
[04:15] <Arafangion> brian98: Other than "completely unresponsive".
[04:15] <brian98> Arafangion, I just reread your message
[04:15] <brian98> :)
[04:15] <brian98> sorry
[04:15] <Arafangion> brian98: Heh, :)
[04:15] <brian98> Arafangion, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2661
[04:16] <omegacat> cafuego: that fwcutter thing i set up earlier - is that still necessary with the page that you sent me to? (I just want to make some notes in case i have to do this again)
[04:16] <Zardiac> Hi, I just have a quick question, I am using a japanese keyboard, (113 keys i think) And it almost works perfectly but there is some characters I cannot use, so I wonder if there is a way to edit the keyboard layout a  little and make the keys work? It is some keys wich is used togehter with altgr
[04:16] <Arafangion> brian98: A complicating factor with this machine is that it's sharing a USB printer, using a wireless nic, and has a faulty m/b!
[04:16] <sindig> irc://<IP_ADDRESS>/wanderers-mp3s
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, erm
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, try #2ndhandpc's
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, just kidding!
[04:17] <brian98> Arafangion, do you know the serial port defo works ?
[04:17] <Arafangion> brian98: I was under the impression that X11 would detect the mouse, or not at all.
[04:18] <brian98> most times yes
[04:18] <brian98> but if you read that article
[04:18] <brian98> there are people in the same boat as you
[04:18] <brian98> Arafangion, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2661
[04:18] <Arafangion> brian98: I've read it, it just seems contrary to my experiences :)
[04:19] <deny_> where can i get a "powered by: linux" sticker??
[04:19] <brian98> ok
[04:19] <brian98> deny_ try asking someone in #ubuntu-marketing
[04:19] <deny_> ok
[04:19] <Dr_willis> deny_,  ive bought them befor at some of the cd/disrto sales sites.. like cheapbytes.com
[04:19] <rustlerharv> my firefox keeps trying to dl a php script im trying to run when i try to run it any ideas
[04:20] <Arafangion> brian98: I think I'll just keep win98 on it.  It's a fairly useless machine anyway.
[04:20] <Rasta> !photoshop
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about photoshop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Dr_willis> Badges/stickers/bumperstickers
[04:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, the server is misconfigured
[04:20] <jrib> deny_: system76 offers them: http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/53_64
[04:20] <Rasta> he doesnt know nothing
[04:20] <brian98> Arafangion it will be much nicer with ubuntu , trust me
[04:20] <oxygene_> rustlerharv, that has nothing to do with firefox
[04:20] <rustlerharv> what server
[04:20] <Rasta> someone here has installed photoshop in ubuntu using wine?
[04:20] <oxygene_> well the server is responsible for executing php-scripts
[04:21] <G_Dragon> Hey, I'm wondering if I could ask for some help.
[04:21] <deny_> thanks
[04:21] <oxygene_> try it, G_Dragon
[04:21] <Arafangion> brian98: I'm fully aware of that, but the damn box hasn't even had the screen plugged in for the past month, and nobody (including me) noticed.
[04:21] <deny_> jrib, i cant get that working
[04:21] <rustlerharv> oxygene_: i thing the script i want to run configs the server
[04:21] <rustlerharv> im trying to get into phpmyadmin
[04:21] <Arafangion> brian98: It is practically nothing more than a wireless print server.
[04:21] <jrib> deny_: what, the link?
[04:21] <Asc> Can most browsers display .svg vector images?
[04:21] <rustlerharv> when i try to open it it tries to dl it
[04:22] <Aaroncn> hi everyone. I installed a vmware-server, but it cannot be started. it says: vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for this system. use vmware-config.pl to configure
[04:22] <deny_> yeah, jrib
[04:22] <Arafangion> brian98: Infact, I wonder if there _are_ wireless usb print servers running Debian out there?
[04:22] <oxygene_> yes, the server computer is not configured correctly
[04:22] <Aaroncn> but I don't know how to configure it. can anyone help me? thanks.
[04:22] <brian98> Arafangion, it will turn it into a useful pc again!