[00:03] <shadaloo> hi
[00:03] <shadaloo> where are the wallpapers stored
[00:06] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: Could depend .. what distribution and release are you running ?
[00:07] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: 15.04
[00:08] <Daekdroom> !ubuntu+1 | shadaloo
[00:12] <Nixus> hey I am a n00b at this irc stuff. can anyone tell me the basic stuff?
[00:13] <daftykins> Nixus: no, this isn't an IRC support channel. join #freenode and ask there
[00:13] <daftykins> Nixus: type "/join #freenode"
[00:13] <bubbasaures> knob, Any of those installs from the ubuntu repo?
[00:13] <Nixus> ok
[00:18] <darius93> Do anyone have issues with amd proprietary when using it with a apu? It seem like there may be a memory leak with /usr/bin/X overtime or when running a graphically intensive application (eg Game, Rendering, etc)
[00:20] <steven____> Which release was the first release of Ubuntu that had PAE as a requiremen
[00:22] <squidly> is there a gnucash package that has sql enabled?
[00:22] <fang0654> What's the correct way to shut ubuntu down from the command line?
[00:23] <fang0654> /sbin/halt seems to hang at the end
[00:23] <Bashing-om> fang0654: Try as -> sudo shutdown -h now <- .
[00:23] <steven____> fang0654: what version of ubuntu does it hang on?
[00:24] <fang0654> steven____, 14.04.. this is a desktop, but I've experienced it on the server flavors as well
[00:24] <fang0654> Bashing-om, yep, that did it.  Thanks!
[00:24] <steven____> fang0654: I'll try and reproduce the hang a bit later on...
[00:24] <fang0654> steven____, usually hangs with "System halted", but doesn't send the final kill
[00:24] <Bashing-om> fang0654: ;) ... -r to 'reboot' .
[00:25] <steven____> Bashing-om: Running sudo kill 1 works too
[00:26] <steven____> Brb, rebooting for a software update
[00:26] <Bashing-om> steven____: Maybe, but to me that is a bit scary .. '1' is init . Killing it might leave things in a unstable state (??) .
[00:26] <anontx> i have a notebook with ubuntu 14.10 running touch pad works but usb optical mouse does not work i really need the mouse more than touchpad since the notebook keyboard is wrecked .  any ideas?
[00:27] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay still working, i went to eat
[00:27] <daftykins> anontx: tried more than one USB port? is this mouse known good? i don't mean historically, i mean today - on another computer :)
[00:28] <Bashing-om> niytro: I was wondering .. try again and let's see what happens .. else going to get down and dirty .. try and unhack it from the terminal with apt's tools .dirty .
[00:28] <anontx> yes it works fine on windows machines and i did try all ports. i was astounded lol that it did not work. almost everything works it seems. i want to use this as a tor
[00:29] <anontx> with gnone on front end
[00:29] <shadaloo> what is the command that is executed when I select "Shut Down" from the system panel
[00:29] <daftykins> anontx: that's ok don't need the life history. unplug it, then plug it back in and type "dmesg | tail" and see if you spot it being plugged in
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297657] cfg80211:   (5250000 KHz - 5330000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297659] cfg80211:   (5490000 KHz - 5600000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297661] cfg80211:   (5650000 KHz - 5710000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 2000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297663] cfg80211:   (5735000 KHz - 5835000 KHz @ 40000 KHz), (300 mBi, 3000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  344.297665] cfg80211:   (57240000 KHz - 63720000 KHz @ 2160000 KHz), (N/A, 4000 mBm)
[00:31] <anontx> [  743.133613] perf samples too long (2505 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000
[00:31] <unopaste> anontx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[00:33] <anontx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715495/
[00:33] <anontx> keyboard works fine
[00:36] <shadaloo> what is the command that is executed when I select "Shut Down" from the system panel
[00:36] <failfarm> shadaloo, sudo shutdown ?
[00:36] <shadaloo> failfarm:
[00:36] <daftykins> anontx: is it a wireless USB receiver for the mouse and keyboard, or?
[00:36] <shadaloo> you can shutdown the computer without executing as root
[00:37] <failfarm> shadaloo, i think ubuntu also uses poweroff
[00:37] <anontx> no both plugged into seperate ports
[00:37] <shadaloo> poweroff: Need to be root
[00:39] <daftykins> anontx: so they're wired devices? is it optical? does the light come on, if any?
[00:39] <anontx> yes light works when i lift it
[00:39] <daftykins> is the system a laptop?
[00:39] <anontx> yes
[00:39] <failfarm> shadaloo, would changing the sudoers file to user ALL=NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown, work for what you need ?
[00:40] <anontx> compaq with a wasted keyboard
[00:40] <failfarm> or you could do sudo chmod a+s /sbin/shutdown
[00:41] <daftykins> anontx: old thing? still got a battery?
[00:41] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay still not working
[00:42] <anontx> it wad vista on it
[00:42] <anontx> so its gotta be 6 years old ?
[00:42] <anontx> mu guess
[00:42] <anontx> *had
[00:43] <anontx> mouse and keyboard combo worked fine in windows. i know that dont mean much
[00:43] <shadaloo> failfarm: how do you edit that file
[00:44] <failfarm> shadaloo, http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/667-how-to-use-visudoers
[00:44] <robin_> Not sure if I'm in the right place, but using GNOME in Ubuntu 14.04, and having a problem getting sketchup 2015 running in wine 1.7.33
[00:45] <robin_> double-tap the installed icon, get the "working" icon on the mouse for 4-5 seconds and it stops. no program.
[00:45] <Valduare> robin_: there isnt linux native version anymore of sketchup?
[00:45] <robin_> that's version 8. I use version 15.
[00:46] <robin_> that's a WEE bit of a step in the wrong direction
[00:46] <daftykins> robin_: consulted the wine appdb?
[00:46] <robin_> says sketchup 2015 is GOLD in 14.04, but doesn't give me much information as to how to make it work.
[00:47] <robin_> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37596
[00:48] <niytro> Bashing-om, you know I am on 14.10, would it be better for me to go to 14.04?
[00:49] <anontx> running gnome 14.10 also
[00:50] <anontx> think that matters ?
[00:50] <avis> i am wondering if the AMD a78 chipset is supported under linux
[00:51] <robin_> following this tutorial, installed winetricks at step 4, and got this error
[00:51] <robin_> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-google-sketchup-cad-style-app-in-ubuntu-using-wine
[00:51] <robin_> wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string, error message 'wine: /home/robin/.wine is not owned by you'
[00:51] <robin_> (I didn't paste-bin because it was only 1 line)
[00:51] <daftykins> robin_: "ls -l ~/ | pastebinit"
[00:53] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715585/
[00:53] <Bashing-om> niytro: 14.04/14.10 is a personal choice .. I prefer the LTS 14.04 as it is (L)ong (T)erm (S)upport and not have to upgade every few months.
[00:54] <daftykins> robin_: you downloaded winetricks as root.
[00:54] <daftykins> robin_: sorry that should've been "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit"
[00:54] <niytro> Bashing-om, would it also possibly run better on my machine?
[00:54] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715590/
[00:55] <niytro> Bashing-om, i should probably switch though because I do plan to keep this on my machine for as long as possible...
[00:55] <daftykins> robin_: yeah, i'd be willing to guess you wget'd that winetricks as root@host then ran the command as root too, correct?
[00:56] <robin_> Porbably did. I tend to run sudo when I do install commands on reflex.
[00:56] <robin_> change ownership should be no issue, just chmod chown, yes?
[00:56] <daftykins> robin_: sudo chown -R robin: /home/robin
[00:57] <robin_> done. shall I re-run sh winetricks?
[00:58] <daftykins> robin_: yep, as you ;)
[00:58] <robin_> http://pastebin.com/NVfV5zS4
[00:59] <DeaDSouL> when i mount a usb drive from terminal with my normal user .. it works... but i can't read/write into it i'm using 'mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/wd1' my user has the right to use sudo mount without root privileges
[00:59] <DeaDSouL> the usb filesystem is ext4
[00:59] <DeaDSouL> how to solve the read/write permissions ? what arguments to add next to mount command ?
[00:59] <Bashing-om> niytro: Again that is as to how you want to operate your system what release/distro to run . for stability - in many terms - install the LTS release .
[01:00] <daftykins> robin_: rerun "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" , then also "ls -al ~/.wine/ | pastebinit"
[01:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, now Im assuing i want the point release for that as well?
[01:00] <shadaloo> how can I search apt-cache for only installed packages
[01:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, lubuntu 14.04.1?
[01:00] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715612/
[01:00] <robin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715613/
[01:01] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: i'm sure it's permissions yet again :P "ls -l /mnt/wd1 | pastebinit"
[01:01] <joaquin> hi
[01:01] <Bashing-om> niytro: To this time there has not been a point release for 14.04 . It only takes 20 minutes to install and see what the difference might be.
[01:03] <Bashing-om> shadaloo: -> dpkg -l <package_name> for a status . That work for ya ?
[01:03] <niytro> Bashing-om, on lubuntu.net they have a page for a point release
[01:03] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: permission denied... but 'ls -l /mn' shows the drwx------ 1 root root 4.0K Jan  6 21:49 wd1
[01:03] <niytro> Bashing-om, its telling me to download 14.04.1
[01:04] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: you can also repeat my command with sudo
[01:04] <bubbasaures> niytro, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/trusty/daily-live/current/
[01:05] <niytro> bubbasaures, i use lubuntu
[01:05] <Bashing-om> niytro: You are correct .1 point release " July 24th
[01:05] <Bashing-om> ￼ Ubuntu 14.04.1
[01:05] <niytro> is it okay to be getting lubuntu help in this channel?
[01:06] <niytro> Bashing-om, im going to install that version and head back into chat after
[01:06] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: same thing.. they're all owned by root:root with drwx------
[01:06] <jhr34> So when will Ubuntu release updated packages for *OpenSSL*? A few days after Debian who has also took for long?
[01:06] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: yep so not even vaguely surprised there. are you the one that transplants a disk between an HTPC and a desktop/laptop for DVD ripping?
[01:06] <Bashing-om> niytro: Lubuntu is also fully supported here .. ( 3rd party software is not ) .. and we see ya on the other side :)
[01:07] <jhr34> ...to much time even
[01:07] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: I just have a file in the usb and want to check it
[01:08] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: so change ownership of the mountpoint to your user.
[01:08] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: how?
[01:08] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: although auto mount should've worked just fine.
[01:08] <jhr34> CVE-2014-8150 <- Debian took three days, for *OpenSSL* and Ubuntu are now gonna be even worse?
[01:08] <daftykins> you shouldn't have needed to mount it yourself
[01:09] <jhr34> oops, I meant (CVE-2014-3569, CVE-2014-3570, CVE-2014-3571, CVE-2014-3572, CVE-2014-8275, CVE-2015-0204, CVE-2015-0205, CVE-2015-0206)
[01:09] <jhr34> which are quite a few
[01:09] <unopaste> ubottu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:10] <bubbasaures> heh the bot quietedm bad bot bad.....bot
[01:10] <robin_> daftykins: any ideas?
[01:10] <jhr34> and OpenSSL updated their upstream the *same day*?
[01:10] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: may be becose I'm using only console ? the auto mount doesnt work?
[01:10] <daftykins> robin_: nope, the script comes from a third party and i don't know how it works.
[01:11] <proc3sarte> ¿alguien habla español?
[01:11] <daftykins> !es | proc3sarte
[01:11] <jhr34> just saying... something smells
[01:11] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: ah, server is it? ok. "sudo chown -R yourusername: /mnt/wd1"
[01:12] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: ok
[01:12] <jhr34> and I don't want to be connected to you in case there are unpateched servers on your end, as OpenSSL vulns are critical, stupid
[01:12] <jhr34> unpatched
[01:13] <daftykins> thank tux that idiot left
[01:13] <shadaloo> Bashing-om: yes that was what i was looking for
[01:13] <shadaloo> failfarm: thx that worked perfectly
[01:14] <bubbasaures> if you can't step in and help fix it, kinda a waste complaining
[01:15] <robin_> -tear- this is why I so often go back to windows. Proproietary software is killing me. But... I could use vbox and (seamless) virtualization, I guess...
[01:15] <alvaro> ub
[01:15] <alvaro> ?
[01:17] <daftykins> robin_: well, you are trying to run Windows software on Linux. that's the first issue :)
[01:18] <kamori> Oh man the sleepies got to me
[01:18] <daftykins> kamori: not a chat channel
[01:19] <kamori> Oops didn't realize I was in the ubuntu channel, my apologies
[01:19] <robin_> daftykins: you're not wrong!! If I felt that an open-sourced equivelent were better than the product i've grown used to... it wouldn't be an issue. Libre is a solid compeditor to M$ Office Suite... I already used Chrome, and evolution isn't a -terrible- package (I like it's integration into the OS).... but there's nothing quite like Sketchip that I've dound
[01:19] <daftykins> robin_: you can always virtualise Windows.
[01:20] <mutual> robin_ are you trying to install sketchup on linux?
[01:20] <daftykins> mutual: yep
[01:20] <mutual> hmm
[01:20] <robin_> mutual: trying to install sketchup 15 on 14.04, yes
[01:20] <mutual> robin_, doesn't work in wine?
[01:20] <robin_> virtualization is alright, though I would have preferred wine
[01:20] <robin_> double-tap and it takes 5 seconds for the working mouse pointer to vanish and no window
[01:21] <robin_> I'd be greatful if you could assist
[01:21] <mutual> I probably can't
[01:21] <somsip> robin_: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31190
[01:21] <mutual> i would just google around
[01:21] <robin_> been doing that for about 6 hours :P
[01:21] <daftykins> and stop running things as root perhaps ;)
[01:21] <somsip> robin_: and #winehq (from memory)
[01:21] <robin_> -hisssssss-
[01:21] <daftykins> somsip: correct \o/
[01:22] <mutual> somsip ^^
[01:22] <robin_> I have no idea how to correct the issues described. Already threw this link at daftykins;)
[01:23] <daftykins> yeah that was some kinda guide using some script though
[01:23] <daftykins> actually
[01:23] <robin_> how do I automatically disable the ruby api?
[01:23] <daftykins> somsip: robin_ here was running a non-+x'd script with "sh script" in ~, would that have a problem not being +x ?
[01:24] <somsip> robin_: disablerupbapi hint here https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=30063
[01:24] <somsip> *DisableRubyApi
[01:24] <mutual> ^^
[01:24] <somsip> daftykins: can't see why unless it called itself recursively
[01:25] <daftykins> somsip: ok thanks :> that covers that potential angle, maybe
[01:25] <somsip> daftykins: that's more "what I think" than a definitive answer though
[01:25] <daftykins> *nod*
[01:25] <daftykins> robin_: certainly wouldn't have hurt to "chmod +x winetricks"
[01:26] <somsip> robin_: are you using the exact same release as the user who reports a gold success rating? If not, can you do that?
[01:27] <robin_> I am, indeed, using 2015... though there may be a very slight version number difference
[01:28] <str8bondg> join #gaynewyork
[01:28] <str8bondg> sorry
[01:28] <somsip> robin_: there is a note in the summary "Fixed with 37596" co maybe try with that release?
[01:29] <somsip> robin_: and the same wine version. Maybe even contact ruffsl (if that's possible) for advice?
[01:29] <robin_> i'm not going to go to that much trouble. I've got vbox installed, it's a whole lot less work to go with a virt-win7 box and go seamless with sketchup2015
[01:30] <BloodyDragon20> haha
[01:30] <somsip> robin_: you've been at this for 6 hours but you won't email someone who got it working? Okay - up to you
[01:30] <BloodyDragon20> i take it here every one is good with Ubuntu right...
[01:30] <somsip> !ask | BloodyDragon20
[01:31] <BloodyDragon20> any one know ubuntu
[01:32] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: either ask a support question or go elsewhere please
[01:33] <ChronicChops> hey would anyone be able to help me set up my power management utilities for my machine which is running 14.10 with i3? I believe it is a problem regarding permissions...
[01:33] <BloodyDragon20> i have resently installed a new GUI on my serve box and for some reason i cannot get it to change i have tried everything to change it
[01:34] <BloodyDragon20> i need an way to change it from the current GUI i have
[01:35] <BloodyDragon20> this is the current GUI i have http://imgur.com/PuZ7VWl&T5yDhWC
[01:35] <BloodyDragon20> i installed GNOME but i cant switch it.
[01:36] <daftykins> mmm, the old GUI on a server chestnut.
[01:36] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: does this server live in your house or is it a VPS?
[01:36] <BloodyDragon20> i rent the server it dint come with a deskto i had to manualy install it
[01:37] <daftykins> yeah that's what i'm suggesting is a bad move ;) GUIs don't belong on servers
[01:37] <BloodyDragon20> helps me run my MC server tho
[01:37] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: alright, so do you have access to see the login screen? you'd have to log out.
[01:38] <BloodyDragon20> if i log off the entire server box resets
[01:38] <BloodyDragon20> as i connect it via a VNC client
[01:38] <daftykins> yeah i noticed in the image, since you use windows 8
[01:38] <BloodyDragon20> i also have bitvise to use it for console and FTP
[01:39] <daftykins> you could try reconfiguring your default session
[01:42] <BloodyDragon20> dafy i do not have access to the login screen even if i log off it will resest the entire server box
[01:43] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: open a terminal or login via console and run "cat /etc/issue" and paste it here (single line)
[01:43] <somsip> BloodyDragon20: so how did you manage to add a GUI? What steps did you go through to enable that?
[01:43] <BloodyDragon20> somsip may i pm you to explain
[01:43] <daftykins> !pm
[01:44] <somsip> BloodyDragon20: no - keep conversations in here please
[01:44] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: if you're getting distracted, HIDE joins and parts in your client. we cope just fine.
[01:44] <BloodyDragon20> HIDE
[01:44] <BloodyDragon20> hmmm
[01:45] <daftykins> commands start with a /, that was not one :>
[01:46] <ChronicChops> hey would anyone be able to help me set up my power management utilities for my machine which is running 14.10 with i3? I believe it is a problem regarding permissions...
[01:46] <BloodyDragon20> :
[01:46] <BloodyDragon20> :>
[01:46] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: still waiting on that command's result
[01:47] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins whats the command again
[01:47] <daftykins> scroll up
[01:47] <daftykins> i do not tolerate laziness
[01:47] <phunyguy> :|
[01:48] <daftykins> phunyguy: something the matter?
[01:49] <phunyguy> not even sure how to respond to that.
[01:49] <daftykins> perhaps with the truth?
[01:49] <plt> What package has  libcrypt
[01:50] <somsip> !find libcrypt | plt
[01:51] <privato89> Salve a tutti. Ho installato da poco Ubuntu, e già mi trovo bene! Però l'ho installato su un vecchio HDD da 500Gb molto lento. I componenti interni del mio pc sono molto potenti, solo che è un peccato avere Ubuntu su un vecchio HDD. Quindi vi chiedo: è possibile trasferire il sistema di su un nuovo SSD, senza perdere i dati o rifare la reinstallazi
[01:51] <privato89> one del sistema? Inoltre l'SSD che usero sarà un "Samsung MZ-75E120BW850EVO 250GB", ci sarà una differenza di prestazioni?
[01:51] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins no result
[01:51] <somsip> !it | privato89
[01:51] <privato89> sorry XD
[01:52] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: what about "lsb_release -d" ?
[01:52] <BloodyDragon20> just got >
[01:53] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: you're not including the " i take it?
[01:53] <daftykins> ctrl+c and try again from the prompt
[01:53] <BloodyDragon20> not cluded
[01:55] <daftykins> can't even confirm that's ubuntu then
[01:55] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: what about "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" ?
[01:56] <texla> What is the command for removing all the files in a directory at one time
[01:56] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins the result of lsb_release -d was Ubuntu 14.04.1 LRS
[01:56] <BloodyDragon20> daftykins the result of lsb_release -d was Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[01:59] <Bashing-om> texla: -> rm -r <directory_  where r " -r, -R, --recursive >> remove directories and their contents recursively . see -> man rm <- .
[01:59] <BloodyDragon20> daftkins the result was Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[02:00] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: yeah i moved on after that
[02:00] <texla> Bashing-om, Thans for the info
[02:00] <ChronicChops> hey would anyone be able to help me set up my power management utilities for my machine which is running 14.10 with i3? I believe it is a problem regarding permissions...
[02:00] <Bashing-om> texla: :)
[02:09] <dtscode> hey guys... is there any software for monitoring razor mice on ubuntu?
[02:14] <privato89> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu on my old and noisy HDD. Now I want transfer my Ubuntu-System on a new SSD. Is this possible? I do not want reinstall the System, but transfer all the System from old HDD to SSD.
[02:14] <privato89> Thanks... sorry my bad english :)
[02:15] <somsip> privato89: ubunt forum has lots of results for this. Maybe there is an answer here for you http://is.gd/AoqAec
[02:15] <daftykins> privato89: clonezilla
[02:16] <privato89> ok thank, with clonezilla is that possible?
[02:16] <privato89> without losing data?
[02:16] <anontx> i noticed when i rebooted that its said a LOW SPEED usb device ... something  it went to fast  so its detecting the mouse just loses it after the WIFI network config
[02:16] <somsip> anontx: type 'desg | less' in a terminal and use space to page through the messages so you can see it properly (b for backwards)
[02:16] <somsip> *dmesg
[02:17] <privato89> What size of SSD do you recommend?
[02:17] <k1l> privato89: as bis as you got money for it :)
[02:17] <privato89> 250GB?
[02:18] <privato89> this:
[02:18] <privato89>     Samsung MZ-75E120BW SSD 850 EVO
[02:18] <sim590> I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/9715963/ while mounting an external usb disk. This is a friend's disk. She told me that his friend operated something to let a "compatibility" between mac and windows. To me it doesn't make any sense because all you have to do to have a compatibility is install exfat filesystem, but may be one of you guys know better ?
[02:20] <qietjam> sim590: Are there files on it You want
[02:21] <sim590> qietjam: yes. It does work on her mac though.
[02:21] <sim590> I guess that there's a package that I could try to fix this.
[02:22] <qietjam> sim590: sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse
[02:22] <qietjam> Reboot your computer:
[02:22] <qietjam> sudo reboot
[02:23] <ki7rw> i've been having trouble with hdmi with nvidea and i tried installing NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.65.run but it messes up the xserver - nvidia website says it's the right driver - i get a display and get logged in but no dashboard or anything else - just the purple screen
[02:23] <qietjam> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse   (instead of fuse-exfat) try that to sim590
[02:24] <halberd> I'm having a strange issue where I'll be just browsing the web, doing nothing special, and suddenly the screen locks up.  I can switch to a virtual terminal but it's veeerrry slow about switching, although no process is hogging many system resources, and then I can't switch back to the GUI.  Should I suspect a video card problem?  this is a new computer
[02:24] <halberd> killing the browser from the terminal does not fix it
[02:25] <sim590> qietjam: those first two packages were already installed.
[02:27] <sim590> qietjam: fuse-exfat doesn't appear after searching it in the package reposirtoies (apt-cache search exfat).
[02:27] <daftykins> halberd: yeah sounds like graphics driver. read "dmesg | tail" when it happens next time, or you could share what graphics hardware is in this machine?
[02:27] <Bashing-om> sim590: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus . To mount a Mac file system .
[02:29] <qietjam> sim590: since they came from Mac. They probably HFS file system
[02:33] <qietjam> sim590: try mounting it with disk utility. Since that program runs as root
[02:36] <sim590> hfsutils seems to need the user to use the terminal.
[02:36] <sim590> I can do that, but my friend can't or doesn't want to.
[02:37] <sim590> I'd like it to be mounted automatically by the desktop environnement.
[02:40] <k2gremlin> Anyone here use Squid3 transparent?
[02:41] <daftykins> sim590: you know HFS+ write isn't supported?
[02:41] <function9x> k2gremlin: try #squid
[02:42] <daftykins> sim590: remote in and provide an fstab edit that permanently mounts it. it's read only as default though
[02:42] <k2gremlin> Only 60 people there and its dead as a doorknob in there
[02:42] <function9x> k2gremlin: yeah that applies to most of freenode around this time of day
[02:44] <Guest77653> hello
[02:44] <Guest77653> how can i install ultrastar on ubuntu 14.10?
[02:46] <daftykins> what is it?
[02:47] <kernix> hey all
[02:47] <sim590> daftykins: I've looked at the filesystem from the mac. This is in fact a exfat filesystem.
[02:47] <sim590> not hfs.
[02:48] <daftykins> sim590: ah easy then :> fstab still applies
[02:49] <sim590> daftykins: this is an external disk. I don't want to edit the fstab on all the computers I'm going to plug the disk on...
[02:51] <daftykins> sim590: if you're using this drive with macs, then this is not an ubuntu issue - unless it's them that are running ubuntu?
[02:52] <Guest77653> how can i install ultrastar on ubuntu 14.10? anyone know how to?
[02:52] <daftykins> never heard of it
[02:52] <Stanley00> !info ultrastar | Guest77653
[02:53] <Stanley00> Guest77653: what is it?
[02:54] <qietjam> sim590: open disk utility and try mounting it
[02:55] <daftykins> sim590: exFAT if used on ubuntu, needs a couple of packages installed typically to be handled by default
[02:55] <daftykins> sim590: install exfat-fuse, exfat-utils
[02:56] <sim590> I've "repaired" the filesystem on the mac machine and now it works..
[02:56] <sim590> daftykins: those packages are already installed.
[02:56] <daftykins> sim590: was this mac even using ubuntu or OS X?
[02:56] <daftykins> sounds like someone didn't unmount it safely
[02:56] <sim590> It is exfat file system.
[02:57] <daftykins> i know that, i'm asking what OS is on this mac.
[02:57] <daftykins> third time, now
[02:58] <sim590> mac.
[02:59] <qietjam> daftykins: he told us it was created on OSX as exfat. He fixed it by rebuilding the file system
[02:59] <sim590> The OS on which I'm trying to make it work is Linux Mint.
[02:59] <daftykins> sim590: mac is a computer, not an operating system
[02:59] <daftykins> qietjam: yes i can read. i'm asking what OS these actions are being taken under.
[02:59] <daftykins> !mint | sim590
[02:59] <daftykins> please go there.
[03:00] <qietjam> daftykins: don't give him a hard time. Disks sometimes give problems after formatting.
[03:01] <daftykins> qietjam: what part is giving a hard time? i really don't follow you
[03:02] <qietjam> If he said Mac most likely he means OSX
[03:02] <qietjam> Cat fight.
[03:02] <daftykins> qietjam: yes but if a problem is occurring there, it is not a question for this channel. do you understand?
[03:02] <bubbasaures> qietjam, my doctor said I would most likely.........die.......some day
[03:02] <sim590> I think that for file system issue like this there's not much difference asking here or Mint, really..
[03:03] <daftykins> sim590: Mint has its' own issues, so you can direct future ones there.
[03:03] <qietjam> sim590 is probably saying thanks for nothing.
[03:04] <sim590> I understand. Thank you for your support !
[03:04] <qietjam> bubbasaures: the doctor was right
[03:05] <daftykins> qietjam: you are not helping the volunteer support in here by making childish comments, please keep them to yourself or go elsewhere.
[03:05] <qietjam> Somebody is having a bad day today.
[03:14] <Vennix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP42YTD0YGM
[03:15] <OerHeks> should we click that youtube, Vennix ?
[03:15] <Vennix> would be appreciated X3
[03:15] <cnnx> i installed lubuntu on a netbook and it runs great via vncviewer
[03:15] <cnnx> love it
[03:15] <pustyi> OerHeks: of course
[03:16] <OerHeks> Vennix i don't, without description why
[03:17] <pustyi> Hi daftykins
[03:17] <Vennix> because me and a few friends are just starting off youtube, and if we get more views, we get more suggested videos, so even more views
[03:17] <Vennix> everyones help would be really appreciated
[03:17] <OerHeks> Vennix, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only
[03:18] <Vennix> okies
[03:18] <daftykins> pustyi: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:19] <Anusien> I'm about to wipe a hard drive and start over. I've backed up /home, /var and /etc. Any other hotspots I should backup before I wipe it?
[03:20] <daftykins> Anusien: nope not unless you use any third party software that has config files in other paths
[03:21] <BloodyDragon20> im trying to have two things in the www folder in /var i need to allow two things
[03:21] <dtscode> how does one setup a remote ppa?
[03:21] <BloodyDragon20> www/html
[03:21] <BloodyDragon20> and www/multicraft
[03:22] <BloodyDragon20> is there a guide on how to do that
[03:22] <dtscode> do you mean have access to them?
[03:22] <daftykins> BloodyDragon20: two different sites at two different domains? yeah virtual hosts, pretty simple
[03:22] <michael_j_p> question:  how long will 12.04 lts be supported
[03:22] <BloodyDragon20> how to you configure them
[03:23] <Bashing-om> michael_j_p: ubunti 12.04 is supported 'till April 2017 .
[03:24] <michael_j_p> Bashing thanks so much !
[03:24] <realme> Bashing-om: nice
[03:25] <fwaokda_> im trying to use "mysqldump" command in ubuntu, but when i do it acts as if my package for mysql-client-5.6 isn't installed... when i try to install it, it says its already at the latest version. anyone know how to fix this?
[03:26] <cfhowlett> fwaokda, perhaps there's a sibling package that's confused; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <realme> fwaokda_: maybe sudo can help
[03:26] <fwaokda_> tried sudo ;/
[03:27] <fwaokda_> dist-upgrade didn't work either
[03:27] <realme> fwaokda_: try installing sql tools or Mariadb tools
[03:28] <fwaokda_> realme, ok i'll try sql tools
[03:29] <vaio> sql tool like mysql is good
[03:29] <realme> fwaokda_: I think maria is more compatible
[03:30] <vaio> but there is a lot of support for mysql ,,,that you will find handy
[03:32] <lachlanc> Hey Guys, I'm part of a program that takes ex-gov computers to marginalized communities and does a crash course in computer literacy (stripping all the components out of the box and putting it back together then installing xubuntu and a few packages  from the repos) and we want to setup a package mirror with as little configuration as possible for the client computers from a stock iso install, to be used when the work shop is run in places with no accessible
[03:32] <lachlanc> Internet connection. So far I have pulled a copy of the trusty repo with apt-mirror but am unsure of how to host it with the goal of zero config for the client in mind, any thoughts ?
[03:32] <realme> vaio: mariadb is better. Its like libreoffice vs OpenOffice.
[03:35] <cfhowlett> lachlanc, "local ubuntu mirror" >>> http://www.matrix44.net/cms/notes/gnulinux/create-a-local-ubuntu-mirror  https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-and-apt-cacher
[03:35] <cfhowlett> https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/create-local-ubuntu-repository-using-apt-mirror-and-apt-cacher
[03:36] <k2gremlin> any iptable gurus around?
[03:37] <daftykins> k2gremlin: might be more relevant in #ubuntu-server - although could well be quiet at this time of day
[03:38] <k2gremlin> daftykins, thanks.. didn't even know the channel existed lol
[03:38] <daftykins> ^_^
[03:38] <k2gremlin> Think I am really close to getting my transparent proxy/content filter working
[03:39] <lachlanc> cfhowlett, yeah in the past we have used apt-cacher, but was hoping to find away to do it without modifying sources.list or typing proxy stuff in config files, some participants have never use a computer before
[03:39] <k2gremlin> but some older guides are using stuff from ubuntu 12.0 so its not matching up lol
[03:39] <cfhowlett> lachlanc, you might also check #ubuntu-server
[03:39] <lachlanc> ok thanks
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:41] <gry> good morning lotuspsychje :)
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> gry: hey mate
[03:41] <michael_j_p> good morning lotuspsychje
[03:41] <gry> hello
[03:42] <bubbasaures> lachlanc, Good work, there is local group doing the same thing where I'm at.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> michael_j_p: hello, did you been able to solve your issue yet?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> michael_j_p: pcsx2 website has some system requierments in their FAQ, did you check that?
[03:44] <michael_j_p> lotuspsychje:  well I really didn't have a problem, I was just fishing to see how that emulator runs on a similar processor as mine:  I should just go ahead and install it and see myself  :)
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | michael_j_p to make things bit faster
[03:45] <michael_j_p> lotuspsychje:  yes, and the system requirements are *barely* above my system - same processor(s) but a wee bit faster processors (in mhz)
[03:45] <faryshta_> hi, this is my .conf for apache. http://pastie.org/9826596 right now if i type an url like project.faryshta/ on my browser it takes me to /git/project/public folder which is cool
[03:45] <lolnopeno> Faryshta, ok.
[03:45] <faryshta_> i would like to add support so that i can type project.admin.faryshta and it takes me to /git/project/admin/public
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> michael_j_p: you can tweak your overal system, to make this emulator go smooth
[03:46] <faryshta_> so how should i change my virtualdocumentroot?
[03:46] <michael_j_p> lotuspsychje:  I am going to install it soon and give it a whirl.  Thanks for the links and the IRC channel links too.
[03:46] <michael_j_p> I'm big on emulators
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> faryshta_: maybe the #httpd guys can also help on that?
[03:47] <lolnopeno> I don't get why im in this channel
[03:47] <lolnopeno> I stopped using ubuntu a while ago.
[03:47] <faryshta_> lotuspsychje can't post there, someone is using my nick Faryshta and i can't change it to use it and identify on nickserv
[03:47] <michael_j_p> lolnopeno:  what OS are you using now ?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> lolnopeno: install it again, its the most popular Os worldwide
[03:48] <lolnopeno> lotuspsychje, windows is, michael_j_p crunchbang
[03:48] <cfhowlett> lolnopeno, ##windows #osx are waiting for you
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> faryshta_: report in #freenode
[03:48] <lolnopeno> cfhowlett, why #osx?
[03:48] <lolnopeno> Faryshta, /msg nickserv ghost <your nick> <your password>
[03:48] <lolnopeno> if registered
[03:51] <michael_j_p> lolnopeno - did I read correctly that you're using Windows OS ?
[03:52] <lolnopeno> michael_j_p, I do use windows.
[03:52] <lolnopeno> I also use Linux and BSD
[03:52] <lolnopeno> only a fool would use one platform.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> lets stick to ubuntu support guys
[03:53] <lolnopeno> lotuspsychje, but then that wouldn't be #ubuntu like!
[03:53] <lolnopeno> :)
[03:54] <lolnopeno> michael_j_p, a smart person would run all their platforms in a VM Hypervisor that allows them to control them locally and do resource handovers on the fly.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !chat | lolnopeno
[03:54] <lolnopeno> !chat lotuspsychje
[03:55] <lolnopeno> !chat | lotuspsychje
[03:55] <michael_j_p> lolnopeno:  I've ran many windows in my past, and many mac OS in my past.  I only run Ubuntu Linux now.  I've become smart from experience.
[03:55] <tonyt> lol some peopel have too much time on their hands lol
[03:55] <lolnopeno> michael_j_p, #ubuntu-chat?
[03:55] <lolnopeno> or #defocus
[03:55] <lolnopeno> I find #defocus to be more laid back if you want to discuss this
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> lolnopeno: stop the offtopic chat here please
[03:56] <lolnopeno> lotuspsychje, I'm just informing him to join ##defocus
[03:56] <michael_j_p> I agree with lotuspsychje - keep this channel for ubuntu support   ;)
[03:56] <lolnopeno> >ubuntu
[03:58] <KindOne> lolnopeno, #defocus was renamed into ##chat a while ago
[03:58] <lolnopeno> KindOne, I see.
[03:58] <lolnopeno> KindOne, stupid in my opinion
[03:58] <niytro> Bashing-om, back finally
[03:59] <Bashing-om> niytro: Great ! Up and running ? What took so long , lol .
[03:59] <faryshta_> hi, this is my .conf for apache. http://pastie.org/9826596 right now if i type an url like project.faryshta/ on my browser it takes me to /git/project/public folder which is cool
[03:59] <faryshta_> i would like to add support so that i can type project.admin.faryshta and it takes me to /git/project/admin/public
[03:59] <faryshta_> so how should i change my virtualdocumentroot?
[03:59] <KindOne> lolnopeno, sending people into #defocus just points them into ##unavailable (spelling?) or something
[03:59] <lolnopeno> ##defocus
[04:00] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, #httpd
[04:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, had to call ISP my connection is having issues, got a tech coming out to the house to repair a bad line
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !apache | faryshta_
[04:00] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, i did visited that channel, they haven't been of help. lotuspsychje i know its about apache, the pastie i provided is an apache conf
[04:00] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay so got 14.04.1 installed and thats cool but first problem im running into is removing the second workspace. i go to desktop pager settings and nothing loads up for settings...
[04:01] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, you have to be patient. we're volunteers.
[04:01] <Bashing-om> niytro: Well, that is not all bad .. get that line up to specs, your world be the better , Were you able to get Lubuntu installed ?
[04:02] <niytro> Bashing-om, yes lubuntu 14.04.1 is what im on right now
[04:02] <somsip> faryshta_: create a new virtual host conf with VirualDocumentRoot of /home/faryshta/git/%a/admin/public
[04:02] <somsip> faryshta_: %1 not %a
[04:02] <niytro> Bashing-om, i was saying the first problem im facing is the options for desktop pager arent loading, im trying to remove the second desktop
[04:03] <faryshta_> somsip, something like that but i want it dinamic. something like /home/faryshta/git/%1/%2/public do you know how to do that?
[04:03] <niytro> Bashing-om, i only need one desktop
[04:03] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, you want modrewrite
[04:03] <lolnopeno> iirc
[04:03] <somsip> faryshta_: no
[04:03] <faryshta_> somsip, do you know if vhost_alias has support for more than one wildcard?
[04:03] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, that didn't even make sense to be honest.
[04:04] <somsip> faryshta_: no. apache docs are good
[04:04] <somsip> lolnopeno: hence my suggestion to have another virt conf file
[04:04] <Bashing-om> niytro: I honestly have not used Lubuntu enough to advise on removing a work space, sorry . (xfce4)
[04:04] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, what didn't make sense?
[04:04] <faryshta_> somsip, yes i was diggin on them before i visited irc, irc is always my last resource. so far haven't found an example.
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> niytro: maybe the #lubuntu guys can point you to the right direction
[04:05] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, dynamic virtual directories
[04:05] <niytro> Bashing-om, oh okay whoops
[04:05] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, it do make sense http://pastie.org/9826596 this works right now for one dinamic directory, i want to have two dinamic directories
[04:06] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, the mod is called vhost_alias
[04:06] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, what is the point of having a dynamic directory?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> niytro: Hang loose and let's see who has the experience with Lubuntu, and we both learn .
[04:07] <niytro> Bashing-om, i joined lubu channel
[04:08] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, when you handle several projects on several computers its easier to have dynamic hosts than creating a new virtualhost every time... and restarting the server.
[04:08] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, in some cases restarting the server is a no-no.
[04:08] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, you're using git, right?
[04:09] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, yes. that way to 'create' a new virtualhost i just need to do 'git clone ...' and then i can access it without restarting apache
[04:09] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, that makes no sense..
[04:10] <lolnopeno> why would you access git through multiple virtual servers when you can select what branch/fork/trunk you want to work on?
[04:10] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, it does. it works.
[04:10] <lolnopeno> why would you access git through multiple virtual servers when you can select what branch/fork/trunk you want to work on?
[04:10] <faryshta_> because i have many git projects on my git folder
[04:10] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, your point?
[04:11] <lolnopeno> it's easier to select the one you need than to keep adding virtual hosts for each
[04:11] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, ok i didn't came here to debate about that, i just need to know if someone know how to add more dynamic directories to vhost_alias
[04:12] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, I'm just suggesting that there are easier and more reliable ways.
[04:12] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, I suggest using "man apache2" and #httpd if you want support just for apache2 especially at this time of night.
[04:13] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, again, what i require is a configuration on vhost_alias
[04:14] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, #httpd
[04:14] <somsip> faryshta_: here is your answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14700797/apache2-dynamic-vhost-with-multiple-serveralias
[04:14] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, also to get your nick /msg nickserv ghost Faryshta <your password>
[04:14] <somsip> faryshta_: you'd just setup serveralias to be *.admin.com for the second vhosy declaration
[04:15] <niytro> Bashing-om, looks like lubu channel is dead
[04:16] <faryshta_> somsip, some projects have more than one subfolders, for example the most of them have backend/ and frontend/ subfolders, i want it to be dynamic on both
[04:17] <Bashing-om> niytro: :( ... Hang loose here, see who responds for Lubuntu work spaces .
[04:17] <somsip> faryshta_: yeah, good luck to you. I can't help more.
[04:17] <faryshta_> somsip, so that foo.bar.faryshta take me to git/foor/bar/public
[04:17] <niytro> Bashing-om, gotcha
[04:17] <faryshta_> lolnopeno, that nickserv command was useful thanks
[04:18] <lolnopeno> faryshta_, no problem.
[04:18] <ubuntuser13> how to install aclocal ?
[04:19] <faryshta_> somsip, i found it by messing around blindly. it was indeed git/%1/%2/public i don't know why it works but does.
[04:19] <somsip> !find aclocal | ubuntuser13
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuser13: can you explain what you are trying to do?
[04:20] <somsip> ubuntuser13: looks like autotools-dev and automake
[04:21] <ubuntuser13> ubottu: actually i'm trying to install klavaro from klavaro-code and it gives me errors: like configure.ac:10:   'automake --add-missing' can install 'ar-lib'
[04:21] <ubuntuser13> configure.ac:11: error: required file './ltmain.sh' not found
[04:21] <ubuntuser13> make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1
[04:22] <somsip> ubuntuser13: why from code? Why not from the repo?
[04:22] <ubuntuser13> somsip: for testing in my regional language.
[04:23] <somsip> ubuntuser13: fair enough. So, installing autotools-dev and automake should give you aclocal from what I see on stackoverflow
[04:24] <ubuntuser13> somsip: ok
[04:25] <ubuntuser13> somsip: these packages already installed on system.
[04:25] <nicholas> hello
[04:25] <somsip> ubuntuser13: and is aclocal available? Is aclocal really what you need?
[04:26] <nicholas> anyone know of a good, lightweight dock that has indicator plugins (like network, battery, etc.)?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | nicholas
[04:26] <nicholas> docky is nice, but the battery plugin doesn't work
[04:26] <nicholas> I am using cairo dock, but crashes
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: how about cairo-dock then?
[04:26] <somsip> nicholas: not used it but saw this recently http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/how-to-add-a-dock-to-ubuntu-desktop-plank
[04:27] <somsip> ubuntuser13: is automake also installed?
[04:27] <ubuntuser13> somsip: how to solve ./ltmain.sh not found?
[04:27] <nicholas> oh isn't plank the dock from elementary?
[04:27] <nicholas> I'll give it a shot
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you can also combine with the indicator section, and use network, battery there
[04:27] <somsip> ubuntuser13: no idea. that's one for the package maintainers
[04:27] <somsip> nicholas: looks like now available for ubuntu
[04:28] <ubuntuser13> somsip: automake already  installed.
[04:28] <nicholas> yeh I see
[04:28] <somsip> ubuntuser13: no idea then. All answers on the web I've seen point to those 3 packages
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: try apt-cache search indicator for more interesting indicators
[04:29] <ubuntuser13> somsip: no worries, thankyou so much for help.
[04:29] <nicholas> what does apt-cache do? how do I use it? I am a new user. all I know is apt-get install, apt-get remove, apt-get purge
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: it searches repos for your search string
[04:30] <nicholas> any examples?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: apt-cache search yourpackagename
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: in your case, apt-cache search dock or indicator
[04:32] <Bashing-om> nicholas: "apt-cache offers a standard regex based search on the package name and description. " For your interest : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites ....
[04:34] <SchrodingersScat> nicholas: also apt-cache show pakagename
[04:34] <nicholas> I can't seem to find a battery indicator for plank
[04:35] <nicholas> how is dockbarx?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you can always try conky, to get more network/cpu/battery info to your desktop and combine with a clean dock
[04:38] <nicholas> I guess... but if I use conky, I have to go to my desktop to check
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you have to check your dock on your desktop too right?
[04:39] <nicholas> I use autohide
[04:39] <nicholas> so when I put my mouse down, it pulls it up
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: thats the whole idea of conky, to get more info to your desktop..thats up to you what you want?
[04:40] <Dresk> I initially set Ubuntu to require me logging in when booting up, but I don't want that anymore - how does one revert that change?
[04:41] <nicholas> i wanna access it in any application without minimizing
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Dresk: you can set autologin in useraccounts
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: here, check some ideas from deviantart: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=ubuntu+dock&offset=24
[04:42] <Dresk> lotuspsychje: Cool, thanks
[04:43] <nicholas> Sorry to say, but I'm using XFCe
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: thats allright, then search deviantart for xubuntu dock
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: or xubuntu conky
[04:46] <nicholas> if I search xubuntu dock, everyone is using docky, cairo-dock, etc. and as I said before, I want to access the stuff from any app, not just the desktop
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: not sure if i follow you mate
[04:48] <nicholas> ok: you know what auto hide is?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> yep
[04:48] <nicholas> lets say I am browsing apps or something and have lots of windows open
[04:48] <nicholas> and I want to make sure my battery is some-what full
[04:49] <nicholas> if I have conky, I have to close all the windows and open then maximize them all over again. but, if I have an autohidng dock, I cant just bring my mouse down to the dock, and it can show me what I need
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> ok got ya
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> for what i remember docky had a battery icon no?
[04:51] <nicholas> I could add it, but didn't add to the dock
[04:51] <nicholas> it also crashed when I unplugged my charging cable
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: well i never tested it on xubuntu, but ran pretty stable for me on ubuntu
[04:52] <nicholas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/481241 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/630799
[04:53] <nicholas> I really wish it didn't
[04:53] <nicholas> it's a great dock
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: wich version of docky are you on?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: and xubuntu version?
[04:54] <nicholas> xubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr lts
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !info docky trusty
[04:54] <nicholas> and docky is the newest from the repos
[04:55] <nicholas> the ubuntu repos*
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: and it still crashes battery icon on your version?
[04:56] <nicholas> yes
[04:56] <nicholas> :'-(
[04:57] <optrusty> Hi guys I dont know if this is the proper channel, but
[04:58] <yourbeau> guys how remove a package along with all its dependencies with aptitude or apt-get ?
[04:58] <nicholas> apt-get autoremove
[04:58] <nicholas> I'm pretty sure
[04:58] <nicholas> so it would be, for example, sudo apt-get purge docky, then sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:59] <optrusty> I was wonder is it possible to install Ubuntu phone to my Nokia Lumia 521. My phone is pretty much ARM and EFI
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: there's a docky script to bypass your issue: https://www.linux-compatible.com/tutorial/docky-closes-after-waking-suspend-ubuntu
[05:00] <daftykins> optrusty: highly unlikely, however #ubuntu-touch is the channel for that
[05:00] <nicholas> yeh optrusty, not too many devices are compatible with ubuntu
[05:01] <nicholas> and lotuspsychje, how about the battery plugin not working?
[05:02] <OerHeks> optrusty, is it ARM8? if not, no.
[05:02] <optrusty> Nicholas Android these days always letting the dev install all they want while windows gets money just to sideload 10 apps
[05:03] <optrusty> OerHeks all I know that the proccesser is a Qualcomm snapdragon with 512MB of ram
[05:06] <optrusty> OerHeks still there
[05:07] <OerHeks> optrusty, if it is not ARM8, then no
[05:07] <snappy> is it possible to reproduce an exact build of a (14.04 LTS) debian package from  the orig + debian sources?
[05:07] <snappy> and by exact, i mean the newly built package has the exact same md5sum file as the one provided by ubuntu
[05:08] <yourbeau> nicholas, I did apt-get install openbox ; it installed a lot of packages
[05:09] <yourbeau> when I did apt-get purge openbox
[05:09] <yourbeau> it did not remove any packages but just openbox
[05:09] <yourbeau> i did apt-get autoremove
[05:09] <yourbeau> and nothing
[05:09] <ki7mt> snappy, yes, it happens all the time, it fact it should do if your using the source package from the repos to build it.
[05:11] <OerHeks> snappy, why would a debian build give the same md5sum as ubuntu sources? you must be lucky i guess
[05:11] <EriC^^> yourbeau: they aren't that many packages, just a bunch of libraries, is there anything wrong with the pc?
[05:11] <niytro> Bashing-om, okay so i solved my brightness problem in terminal
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4-battery-plugin | nicholas maybe this can help?
[05:12] <snappy> ki7mt: i downloaded: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/proftpd-basic (orig + debian sources); extracted the orig, and inside the debian source, ran dpkg-buildpackage -- unpacked the resulting deb and compared the md5sums from control.tar.gz to the original package provided in the apt repository
[05:12] <snappy> the md5sums differ which means the build differs -- even though its the exact same version.
[05:12] <niytro> Bashing-om, xrandr -q | grep " connected"    then    xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 0.5
[05:12] <yourbeau> EriC^^, nothing wrong of course
[05:12] <yourbeau> does anyone know how to make LXDE as beautiful as this picture ? http://trisquel.info/files/Screenshot%20from%202015-01-10%2014:57:26_0.png
[05:13] <Bashing-om> niytro: Laptop ? you may share that solution with the channel .
[05:13] <niytro> yes old toshiba satellite m45
[05:13] <EriC^^> yourbeau: that doesn't look like lxde
[05:13] <yourbeau> EriC^^, ok
[05:13] <snappy> i guess what i shoudl be reading is this: https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds
[05:14] <EriC^^> yourbeau: actually it does, nevermind
[05:14] <yourbeau> EriC^^, lol do yu know what he did ?
[05:14] <ki7mt> snappy, then something is different. If launchpad builds a package and I build the same package with pbuilder, using the same source should produce the same results. Why yours isn't doing that, I don't know.
[05:14] <niytro> Bashing-om, just say it or put it down somewhere?
[05:14] <EriC^^> yourbeau: nope
[05:14] <yourbeau> I think its docky or something
[05:15] <snappy> ki7mt: but its reasonable to expect dpkg-buildpackage (should it succeed) to build byte for byte the same package right?
[05:15] <snappy> (well maybe not the .deb file but the nested data.tar.xz file)
[05:15] <nicomachus> anyone ever have trouble mounting an Android phone?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: get some nice ideas here: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=lubuntu
[05:16] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[05:16] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, describe Y)OUR issue ...
[05:16] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, What ubuntu release, 12.04 per chance?
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: you need the android mount tools
[05:16] <nicomachus> 14.04
[05:16] <snappy> (hm let me try pbuilder, that's designed for reproducible builds)
[05:16] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, What android release?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> niytro: Adjusting the brightness on a laptop is a common issue, Perhaps othjers here would like to know your solution . In 1 consise statement, please.
[05:16] <ki7mt> snappy, It should produce the same package, yes.
[05:16] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, android-tools-adb
[05:16] <nicomachus> already enabled usb debugging on the device.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx
[05:16] <nicomachus> android 4.4.4
[05:16] <nicomachus> (fucking waiting on lollipop...)
[05:17] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, language!!!!
[05:17] <nicomachus> Sorry, cfhowlett.
[05:17] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Should mount without any tools, you have the usb you set in the developers options?
[05:17] <nicomachus> Yep.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, kitkat + android-tools-adb on the ubuntu side
[05:18] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Strange.
[05:18] <nicomachus> Getting error: "Unable to open MTP device '[usb:003,009]'"
[05:18] <bubbasaures> have not added any tools since 12.04 here
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !info mtpfs | nicomachus
[05:19] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: I believe I already installed that a few days ago trying to resolve this.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: doublecheck phone if you got mtp
[05:19] <nicomachus> Found it on AskUbuntu or StackExchange or something.
[05:20] <nicomachus> Phone says Media device [MTP] connected
[05:20] <nicomachus> Also says USB connected and USB debugging connected
[05:20] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, Two ways to communicate with the computer one is media, forget the other.
[05:21] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, what are you attempting to do with this connection?
[05:21] <daftykins> MTP and PTP i think, picture transfer protocol
[05:21] <bubbasaures> that's it
[05:22] <nicomachus> Open it in the filesystem and transfer music files.
[05:22] <daftykins> someone said something about udev causing issues with android MTP devices a bit ago
[05:23] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, not quite so neat, but you can that with airdroid
[05:23] <niytro> For anyone who is unable to change Brightness on their laptop display it can be done via terminal by doing the following. Type xrandr -q | grep " connected" and the output should say something similar to LVDS1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 331mm x 207mm. LVDS1 is your display so now you can enter xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 0.5    1.0 is full and it can go down to 0.0 so be careful and above 1.
[05:23] <niytro> 0 as well. Adjust the value to your preference.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> i remember that green android icon in ubuntu, think it was go-mtpfs
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> i was able to mount the android with that icon
[05:24] <nicomachus> cfhowlett: I know... but the USB 3.0 transfers the FLAC files so much faster than cloud.
[05:24] <xangua> I had better results with this lotuspsychje http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[05:24] <xangua> back when I use 12.04
[05:24] <Bashing-om> niytro: Thanks, that solution do ring a bell .
[05:25] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: Will give that try.
[05:25] <nicomachus> a try*
[05:25] <xangua> nicomachus: what ubuntu release are you using¿
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> xangua: nice one
[05:25] <niytro> Bashing-om, now i just need to figure out how to script commands that i can assign to hotkeys
[05:25] <nicomachus> 14.04
[05:25] <yourbeau> is Ubuntu fully opensource ?
[05:25] <niytro> Bashing-om, u know something like that
[05:26] <yourbeau> I mean if we replace the kernel with linux-libre
[05:26] <nicomachus> yourbeau: yes
[05:26] <xangua> nicomachus: then mtp should work out the box
[05:26] <yourbeau> and use only Main repo
[05:26] <nicomachus> xangua: clearly. but it's not.
[05:26] <yourbeau> nicomachus, because kernel has non-free osftware and other repo have non-free software
[05:26] <bubbasaures> yourbeau, vanilla install yes.
[05:26] <xangua> yourbeau: there is an ubuntu based distro the fsf recommends, don't remember it's name
[05:27] <Bashing-om> niytro: That is a deep subject for another time. I am done for this session. See all yall later .
[05:27] <niytro> Bashing-om, thanks so much
[05:28] <Bashing-om> niytro: :) Great to 'meet' ya ... see ya later .
[05:28] <niytro> Bashing-om, same to you
[05:29] <EriC^^> niytro: you want to assign scripts to keyboard shortcuts?
[05:30] <Guest93204> hi anybody here wanna help me install ubuntu
[05:30] <Guest93204> im having a problem cus i think my laptop is too new
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: can you tell us where you are stuck?
[05:31] <Guest93204> after i boot from usb the screen flickers like crazy
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: i would go for what xanga suggested, seems the most updated way
[05:31] <Guest93204> and if i leave it alone to long the screen blacks out
[05:31] <nicomachus> Thanks.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: ubuntu version please?
[05:31] <Guest93204> 14.04 the new current one
[05:32] <nicomachus> Are you able to get to the BIOS and select a boot option?
[05:32] <Guest93204> ive been following youtube videos but no one else has the same problem
[05:32] <Guest93204> yea
[05:32] <Guest93204> i get to the screen that ask for live trial,install and such
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: what kind of grafix card you having?
[05:32] <Guest93204> after i make a choice it still works but the screen  flickers
[05:32] <nicholas> dock with indicator plugins and stuff? both docky and cairo dock crash. Any alternativces? my main goal is to replace the xfce4-panel
[05:33] <Guest93204> the laptop im trying to install it on is asus q502L
[05:33] <nicholas> anyone know a dock with indicator plugins and stuff? both docky and cairo dock crash. Any alternativces? my main goal is to replace the xfce4-panel
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: did you see the battery plugin for xubuntu i triggered?
[05:34] <nicholas> ? I was gone for like 15 mins
[05:34] <nicomachus> Guest93204: are you going straight to "install" or are you going to live trial first?
[05:34] <nicholas> sorry
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: what is default Os on that asus? win8?
[05:34] <Guest93204> i tried both
[05:34] <Kion> I installed the compiz config settings and the fire effect is gone, does anyone know why it is no logner there?
[05:34] <Guest93204> the live trial flickers less but it still flickers
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4-battery-plugin | nicholas
[05:34] <nicomachus> weirRrRrRd...
[05:34] <bubbasaures> nicholas, Didn't someone link you to a dock called plank?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Kion: you need to install the plugins
[05:35] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Guest93204 try this
[05:35] <nicholas> yeah, but plank doesn't have the indicators I need
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Kion: fire and wobbly windows and such are now in plugins-extra or something
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-plugin-extras
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:36] <Kion> lotuspsychje: I already have them installed, actually have the wobbly windows activated and working
[05:36] <xangua> nicholas: what's wrong with xfce panel¿
[05:36] <bubbasaures> nicholas, Ah, rarely does cairo crash  here not in a long time anyway, strange.
[05:36] <nicholas> to me, it looks terribel
[05:36] <nicomachus> xangua: this one was up to date? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[05:36] <xangua> you can make it look like a dock, as you already were told nicholas
[05:36] <bubbasaures> nicomachus, It is not check it's web page.
[05:37] <xangua> nicomachus: as I said it should work out of the box in 14.04
[05:37] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, 2 years old ...
[05:37] <nicholas> yeah, but I kinda like a pupup animation and more of a dock-like interface
[05:37] <cfhowlett> nicholas, 14.04.1 is stable ... y u no upgrade???
[05:37] <cfhowlett> nicomachus, ^^^^
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you could also test enlightment E17, maybe its got more stable battery monitor
[05:38] <nicholas> maybe, hows the cpu usage compare to xfce4?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | nicholas
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> nicholas: you can test from your existing xubuntu
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> maybe someone else knows window managers with battery icons working?
[05:39] <nicholas> smaybe
[05:40] <snappy> ki7mt: thanks for the hint about pbuilder, looks like that's more what i needed.
[05:40] <Guest93204> i dont know what im looking at or how to do this :/
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: try F1 at your usb ubuntu boot, to get into nomodeset
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: read the trigger from daftykins
[05:41] <cfhowlett> Guest93204, https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[05:41] <daftykins> Guest93204: boot to when you see the 'try, install... yada yada, then press F6 i think it is and enable nomodeset.
[05:42] <wisag0d> ;;/exit
[05:42] <Guest93204> yea im at the try ubuntu menu
[05:42] <Guest93204> f1 and f6 doesnt seem to do anythign
[05:43] <daftykins> cfhowlett: wow, i wish that was in the topic
[05:43] <cfhowlett> daftykins, gotta be a way ...
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: try F1 before the purple ubuntu screen, and keep hitting until you get some options
[05:43] <bubbasaures> Guest93204, does it look like the second picture, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[05:44] <Guest93204> not at all
[05:44] <Guest93204> its white text on black scren
[05:44] <daftykins> Guest93204: ah you're booting in EFI mode then
[05:44] <bubbasaures> Guest93204, This a dual boot?
[05:44] <bubbasaures> yeppers
[05:44] <Guest93204> gnu grub version at the top
[05:44] <daftykins> user hasn't installed yet
[05:45] <daftykins> Guest93204: press 'e' on 'try', then add "nomodeset" in the place my link showed.
[05:45] <daftykins> Guest93204: (after quiet splash)
[05:45] <jrg> well... kubuntu sure has come a long way heh... not sure if it's because of kde or because of ubuntu
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> jrg: evolution :p
[05:45] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i suppose so. i was going to try out the plasma5 edition but chose the more stable 4.x branch
[05:46] <Guest93204> can you link again
[05:46] <jrg> personally i don't see why anybody would use win8 vs kubuntu other than the fact you can't use your iphone/pad/pod
[05:46] <jrg> sure wish someone could fix that :/
[05:46] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Guest93204
[05:46] <function9x> jrg: kubuntu is awesome, plasma 4 works well. plasma 5 still ongoing
[05:47] <jrg> function9x: yah. not complaining. it works quite well... at the very least the interface is better than win8/10
[05:47] <jrg> to me it's pretty much linux based win7 heh
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> jrg: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/kde-plasma-5-released
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> jrg: wich problem do you have with iphones/ipad?
[05:48] <jrg> lotuspsychje: oh. seems amarok doesn't like to talk to it very well
[05:48] <jrg> ie: sync songs etc
[05:48] <jrg> last time i tried it i had to flash my iphone heh
[05:48] <jrg> although i haven't tried in quite a while.. but this is a bit expected wtih apple things
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> jrg: i think rythmbox or banshee has ways to sync ipods
[05:49] <jrg> ah. might have been rythmbox
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> jrg: you also wine/playonlinux itunes
[05:49] <jrg> lotuspsychje: itunes works in wine?
[05:49] <jrg> if i knew that i honestly would have tried that first heh
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> jrg: not lastest version, but some version does
[05:49] <jrg> blah. i bet that older version will be impossible to find
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe check the playonlinx database
[05:50] <jrg> apple probably combed the internet and deleted all of it heh
[05:50] <jrg> yeah i'll check that out.. let me see if i can find it now
[05:50] <Guest93204> the text on my screen isn't the same as the picture
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> jrg: i think it will be itunes 7 or so
[05:50] <daftykins> i was under the impression itunes is a no-go now
[05:50] <Guest93204> i got 4 lines total
[05:51] <jrg> oh. playonlinux keeps a repo of this stuff?
[05:51] <Guest93204> the first being {setparams 'try Ybuntu without installing'}
[05:51] <daftykins> Guest93204: like i said, press 'e' on the 'try' option, then you'll get another screen. go down with the cursors to where it reads 'quiet splash' and put a space then 'nomodeset' after those two words.
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: did you disable secureboot and fastboot in bios?
[05:51] <daftykins> secureboot doesn't need to be off, lotuspsychje
[05:51] <daftykins> not since 12.04 :>
[05:51] <function9x> jrg: yeah just like win7, I had the iphone 4S, used it for a couple of years, but it was too much of a hassle to get it to work with linux. I upgraded to a droid(GS5) phone instead. Plays well with linux
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: he's dualbooting?
[05:52] <Guest93204> so heres what it says in that section after the -- or before////     boot=casper quiet splash --
[05:52] <jrg> function9x: yah :/ well.. not going to swap phones heh
[05:52] <jrg> maybe if an ubuntu phone actually finally comes out
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> jrg: https://www.playonlinux.com/en/supported_apps.html
[05:53] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: well, once an attempt to install is made, yeah i guess so
[05:53] <daftykins> Guest93204: do you intend to use ubuntu as well as windows 8?
[05:53] <Guest93204> no
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> jrg: shows itunes 10 :p
[05:53] <Guest93204> wanna learn linux by forcing myself no other option
[05:54] <jrg> lotuspsychje: wow sure does
[05:54] <jrg> let me try it out heh
[05:54] <jrg> playonlinux sure does install a lot of :i386 stuff
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jrg: yeah some requiered packages
[05:55] <jrg> if itunes will work tho... and with my iphone... then kubuntu ftw heh
[05:55] <jrg> that's the only thing i could never get working
[05:55] <jrg> too bad there is no way to use some sort of virtualbox hackery to just install libs etc into a windows vm and run it that way heh
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> jrg: well there's (almost) a solution for everything in ubuntu :p
[05:56] <jrg> lotuspsychje: haven't gotten it working yet :P
[05:56] <jrg> does playonlinux automatically grab the files it needs?
[05:56] <daftykins> Guest93204: fair enough
[05:56] <jrg> looks like it does
[05:56] <daftykins> Guest93204: are you sure it's not a Q502LA ?
[05:56] <gry> what exactly is not working in 'run windows in a vm on ubuntu' approach?
[05:56] <gry> it is a good host os, i say
[05:56] <jrg> gry: oh that will work fine... i can just use an xp vm or something
[05:57] <jrg> but that's a big chunk of worthlessness if all i use it for is itunes
[05:57] <gry> "<jrg> too bad there is no way to use some sort of virtualbox hackery to just install libs etc into a windows vm and run it that way heh" <-- i don't parse this line
[05:57] <Guest93204> pretty sure unless they mislabled the box and sticker under the laptop
[05:57] <jrg> gry: i mean have it so you can use virtualbox to run only itunes
[05:57] <jrg> minus windows itself heh
[05:57] <gry> aa. use colinux
[05:57] <UbuDark1410> ubuntu 14.10 work good by side win 8.1
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> jrg: i remember playing with libmobiledevice once to get ipad sync
[05:57] <jrg> like some bare libs method that makes a call to virtualbox
[05:58] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i think that's what rythmbox uses doesn't it?
[05:58] <jrg> it broke my iphone
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:58] <Guest93204> did i do something wrong with the computer bios?
[05:58] <jrg> not broke broke.. but it usre messed up my music db
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> jrg: get yourself a nice ubuntu phone :p
[05:58] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i would but the old nexus aren't worth what people are asking for them because of ubuntu
[05:58] <jrg> and the new ones aren't out yet
[05:58] <jrg> if ever
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> jrg: soon
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !touch | jrg
[05:59] <jrg> lotuspsychje: i'll believe it when i see it ;) people said the same of pandora
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> jrg: BQ aquarius will launch ubuntu phone soon to europe
[06:00] <jrg> lotuspsychje: which means they'll be on ebay for $5,000 for 12 months as they sell out
[06:00] <jrg> not to mention i'm sure they wno't have proper US bands to cross teh ocean with
[06:00] <jrg> and no warranty being out of region
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> jrg: lets stay ontopic :p
[06:01] <protopopulus> Hi everybody!
[06:01] <jrg> but yes. if one actually comes out i will get it to go with my (k)ubuntu laptop
[06:01] <jrg> although. aren't ubuntu phones supposed to dock and be like a desktop?
[06:01] <protopopulus> Sombody knows how to fix xorg in 12.04?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !xorg | protopopulus
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> jrg: join #ubuntu-touch to discuss mate
[06:02] <jrg> oh
[06:02] <protopopulus> Yep... I knew it
[06:02] <daftykins> Guest93204: so "...casper quiet splash nomodeset..."
[06:02] <jrg> lotuspsychje: ssorry heh.. no thanks.. i'll join ubuntu-touch after they release an actual device that i can buy ... then i'll ask the questions heh.. in the meantime i'm working on getting itunes to work in ubuntu
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:03] <Guest93204> ok then how do i get out of the menu
[06:03] <daftykins> Guest93204: do you understand what i mean to do? it's then ctrl+x or F10 to boot after entering that word
[06:03] <Guest93204> i dont know what it is suppose to do but im doing as your telling me
[06:04] <Guest93204> but hey looks like it worked yay
[06:04] <Guest93204> no more flickering
[06:04] <jrg> alrighty
[06:04]  * jrg waits for playonlinux to refresh itself
[06:04] <jrg> this will be pretty awesome if it works in ubuntu
[06:05] <Guest93204> is the internet suppose to work on this live trial, i am assuming so because i saw this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246701
[06:05] <daftykins> Guest93204: are you typing from the computer you downloaded ubuntu on?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> jrg: before you get too happy, make a good backup on your iphone lol
[06:05] <jrg> tbh tho... the no itunes thing isn't that big of a deal considering i use plex for everything
[06:05] <Guest93204> no another one
[06:05] <jrg> but you never know :)
[06:06] <daftykins> Guest93204: press ctrl+alt+t and type "ip a" and tell me if you see another thing than 'lo' and 'eth0' with a bunch of info beside
[06:07] <jrg> lmao!
[06:07] <jrg> lotuspsychje: "Wine does not support USB yet. You will not able to sync your iDevices with PlayOnLinux. Sorry
[06:07] <Guest93204> yea i see lo and etho in there but theres a lot of text the comes after both of them
[06:07] <jrg> bad english aside.. seems like it doesn't work
[06:08] <daftykins> Guest93204: alright, sounds like your wireless isn't coming up indeed. type "lspci" and tell me if you see a line with "intel 7xxx wifi"
[06:08] <Guest93204> "eth0: <no carrier, broadcast,multicast, up>"
[06:08] <jrg> ah well.. i guess i'll just stick to syncing with plex :)
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> jrg: that error showed on main itunes page on playonlinux yes
[06:09] <jrg> lotuspsychje: oh sure does. missed that part
[06:09] <jrg> well.. i'll check back in about 5 years heh
[06:09] <jrg> hopefully by then i'll have an ubuntu phone and this will all be moot :)
[06:09] <Guest93204> no i dont see that
[06:10] <daftykins> Guest93204: do you see anything with 'wifi' or 'network controller' in?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe read some here: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21302
[06:10] <Guest93204> yea
[06:11] <daftykins> Guest93204: what's the device name?
[06:11] <Guest93204> network controller: intel corperation wireless 7260 (rev cb)
[06:11] <daftykins> alright so it is intel 7xxx :)
[06:11] <jrg> well.. maybe wine will support usb some day
[06:12] <daftykins> Guest93204: your best bet is to install and then update the system by plugging into your router with a network cable. can you do that?
[06:12] <Guest93204> maybe depends on how fast i can install it
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> jrg: maybe try itunes 7 to test
[06:13] <Guest93204> im assuming double click install ubuntu on desktop and follow step?
[06:13] <kitten_> goodnight daftykins
[06:13] <daftykins> Guest93204: yep, then if you're sure about killing windows 8, select to erase entire disk when installing
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> jrg: and some usefull info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:17] <jrg> lotuspsychje: yeah i was reading that
[06:17] <jrg> still just not worth it. just seems buggy at best.. like i said.. no big deal.. i have a lifetime plexpass
[06:17] <jrg> i'll just use that
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:17] <jrg> my plex server > iphone anyways
[06:18] <jrg> if i was going to use a music service i'd probably use the MS one anyways... although i could never get it to play in an ubuntu browser
[06:18] <jrg> never quite figured that out
[06:19] <Guest93204> when i plug into the rounter im not gonna be next to the computer im reading this from so what do i do and type when i connect to the rounter
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: is it installing yet?
[06:20] <Guest93204> yea
[06:20] <daftykins> install, let it finish, shutdown... unplug the flash drive, turn it back on...
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: great, you made a good choice :p welcome to ubuntu
[06:20] <Guest93204> do i restart now or continue testing
[06:20] <daftykins> if it boots successfully, lotuspsychje can help you fully update over the wired network as i must sleep :)
[06:21] <Guest93204> and thanks feels a little more profesional haha
[06:21] <daftykins> continue testing then shutdown
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: restart only when you got a prompt, install has finished
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: nite nite
[06:21] <daftykins> :D ty, have a good shift o/
[06:21] <Guest93204> dammit i did what daftykins said and hit contie
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:22] <Guest93204> so what now then continue to fix the wifi or restart
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: you still in live session, testing?
[06:22] <Guest93204> yea
[06:23] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: oh before i go, if a dist-upgrade doesn't bring the wifi on, nor modprobe iwlwifi, it'll be - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&page=2&p=13112184#post13112184
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: but did you install ubuntu to hd meanwhile?
[06:23] <Guest93204> yea
[06:23] <Guest93204> i finished the installation process
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: if it finished, you can reboot safe
[06:25] <Guest93204> oh god the flickering
[06:25] <Guest93204> its back and hitting like a mad man
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: can you boot into your ubuntu desktop?
[06:26] <Guest93204> yea
[06:26] <Guest93204> im at desktop
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: check out wich driver is loaded at your additional drivers
[06:27] <Guest93204> how would i go about doing that
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: hit the main ubuntu icon in your left upepr corner
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: and search for the hardware icon
[06:29] <Guest93204> 3 things show up search in amazon, simple scan, see more scopes
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: at the bottom you can search applications
[06:29] <Guest93204> i think i found it
[06:29] <Guest93204> it says no additional drivers available
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: hmm, ok
[06:30] <Guest93204> in a software & updates box
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: can you open a terminal and type sudo lshw -C video
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: and write the name of your card + what shows after driver=
[06:31] <Guest93204> produvt : haswe;;-ULT intergrated graphics controller
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> and driver=
[06:32] <Guest93204> driver=i915 latancy=0
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:32] <tes_> \server irc.worldnet.net
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: your asus, is this an old machine or rather new?
[06:33] <Guest93204> new got it today
[06:33] <Guest93204> at best buy
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: and you still have the flickering right now?
[06:33] <Guest93204> yes
[06:33] <Guest93204> it was fixed earlier so it should be fixable
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: do you have specs of that machine somewhere, or a link?
[06:35] <Guest93204> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-2-in-1-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black/5827053.p?id=1219163970040&skuId=5827053
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> ok intel hd grafix
[06:38] <explodes> Hey dudes. Using lm-sensors, and having searched for all sensors, I'm getting a lot of alarms. What prompted me to do this was 1.5hr of gaming, the frame rate drops every minutes for a few seconds
[06:38] <explodes> I cant' believe the numbers I'm seeing, it must be some kind of error
[06:38] <explodes> http://pastie.org/9826817
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: maybe check the intel website for latest linux grafix drivers
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset > Guest93204 or read the grub nomodeset edit again
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: also do a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal
[06:44] <Guest93204> wifi is still broken though im hooked up to my other computer with a brdge network
[06:45] <Guest93204> so i ran gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and it said gksudo is not currently installed
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: you can sudo gedit also
[06:46] <Guest93204> just type "sudo gedit" in terminal?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: no, the whole line you pasted
[06:47] <Guest93204> ok
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> but sudo instead of gksudo
[06:47] <OerHeks>  If you are to run graphical applications as root, please use sudo -H or pkexec.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: after you edited grub, save and sudo update-grub
[06:49] <bitt> hello
[06:49] <Guest93204> ITS GONE  is what i almost said its happening still but a lot less
[06:50] <BloodyDragon20> how to i fix the error #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[06:51] <Guest93204> am i suppose to do this one "quiet splash nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\""   or   "quiet splash nomodeset" cus i did "quiet splash nomodeset"
[06:52] <BloodyDragon20> how do i fix this error http://pastebin.com/NXJ9wwgJ
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: nomodeset would do the trick yes, did you sudo update-grub after?
[06:53] <Guest93204> yea
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Guest93204: ok then try reboot, see if it fixes
[06:53] <Guest93204> ok im still upgrading from another terminal so ill restart after its done
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:55] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, first of, what is distro, type of box is it, server, desktop etc? What was the command you tried to use too connect with?
[06:56] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt the server box is running  and we are using putty to do everything. and its for phpmyadmin
[06:56] <OerHeks> BloodyDragon20, see anser #1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/401449/error-104528000-access-denied-for-user-rootlocalhost-using-password-no  use the -p option ?
[06:57] <BloodyDragon20> OerHeks tried it
[06:57] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, did you setup MySQL password correctly?
[06:57] <BloodyDragon20> yes
[06:58] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, In any case resetting it may solve the issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[06:58] <ki7mt> Using 'NO" doesn't seem correct to me for a PW
[06:59] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt so reseting mysql should fix phpmyadmin
[06:59] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt the os is is CentOS
[07:00] <Guest93204> sweet looks like you were right restart did the trick
[07:00] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, phpmyadmin has to connect to the SQL DB the same as you would do manually, so if either the SQL PW is fubar, or the PW your using in phpmyadmin is wrong, that's the result you'd see.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Guest93204
[07:01] <Guest93204> now all thats left is wif issue yay
[07:01] <ki7mt> BloodyDragon20, This is support for Ubuntu, but it doesn't matter, the connection to the DB is the same.
[07:01] <BloodyDragon20> #CentOS
[07:02] <BloodyDragon20> ki7mt then what is the room for centos
[07:03] <ki7mt> Yes, #centos or #centos-devel, there are several
[07:05] <code__> hi guys
[07:06] <code__> I am looking for a method to encrypt my external HD, but to be able to decrypted on Windows, Mac and Linux. Does anyone knows any software?
[07:07] <snappy> ki7mt: so i can get reproducible builds working now with pbuilder; can you suggest the path of least resistance to apply a patch to an existing .orig.tar.gz .debian.tar.gz and .dsc files? I extracted the debian.tar.gz, changed a few files, bumped the changelog, repackaged the tarball, but i need to regenerate the dsc and im not sure if there's a tool for that.
[07:10] <Guest93204> do you guys know how to fix the wifi problem or should i just follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&p=13112184#post13112184
[07:10] <ki7mt> snappy, Path of least resistance, well that depends, who's the original maintainer? If Debian, send a bug in with the patch, if Ubuntu only, bug with patch on launchpad. Make sure you Cc: the relevant groups owning the package.
[07:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> so i am on the ubuntu live-usb and considering installing
[07:11] <AirstrikeIvanov> but no idea how to do a few things like format one of my spare linux drives so both linux and Windows can read and use it
[07:11] <ki7mt> snappy, and for the .dsc, it's debuild -S -k<your pgp key>
[07:11] <snappy> ah thanks
[07:13] <__my_name__> Hi
[07:13] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Make it a NTFS for both to read.
[07:13] <AirstrikeIvanov> ah, do i want to use MBR or GPT partition scheming?
[07:13] <AirstrikeIvanov> still looking over the particulars of the boot loaders and such once i get it all installed
[07:13] <ki7mt> snappy, dont forget to : export DEBFULLNAME="Yourname" export DEBEMAIL="email-address"
[07:14] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, What is there now on the computer?
[07:14] <bubbasaures> mbr or gpt that is
[07:16] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, I don't think it's going to matter on an external, so what you like is fine.
[07:17] <AirstrikeIvanov> bubbasaures: I have a 1TB drive with Windows 10 Technical Preview on it; it's my primary OS - I installed two more SATA drives, 300/250GB each
[07:17] <AirstrikeIvanov> not externals either way
[07:17] <AirstrikeIvanov> i installed the drives internally
[07:17] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, I was just curious if you where gpt on the computer.
[07:18] <al_nz1> Evening!!!!
[07:18] <al_nz1> Any networking experts here?
[07:18] <al_nz1> I cant ping my gateway or anything else on my lan
[07:18] <bubbasaures> !any | al_nz1
[07:18] <al_nz1> wan etc is fine!
[07:18] <al_nz1> and only on wlan interfaces - eth0 works
[07:19] <bubbasaures> al_nz1, We follow posts that are all in one, if you can
[07:23] <ki7mt> code__, encryption is a complex topic. From an ease of use standpoint, I would use something like OpenPGP
[07:24] <EriC^^> al_nz1: i dont know much about networking but did you try to reset your router?
[07:26] <AirstrikeIvanov> so if i am dual booting Windows and Linux, i won't have to worry about anything IF they are on seperate drives?
[07:26] <al_nz1> EriC^^: other computers can ping across the lan just fine, and eth0 works. its only wireless - so I think this points to the PC as oposed to the router
[07:27] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Should not be an issue, make sure grub goes to the HD ubuntu is on.
[07:27] <EriC^^> al_nz1: is there a router that links them together?
[07:27] <al_nz1> yes
[07:27] <EriC^^> for eth0 and wlan0 ?
[07:28] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, you gonna go gpt or msdos?
[07:28] <EriC^^> wired and wireless?
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> i have NO clue thats why i was asking
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> lol
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> i mean, its a relatively modern year-old system
[07:28] <al_nz1> no, I tried a wired connection on the ubuntu PC and the problem went away
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> GTX760 2GB/16GB DDR3 1600MHz/i7-4770K
[07:28] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Are you on the computer?
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> yep
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> using the livedvd now
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> on ubuntu
[07:28] <al_nz1> but I want to get wireless working prooperly
[07:28] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, In what OS?
[07:28] <EriC^^> al_nz1: that means it could be the router, no?
[07:28] <AirstrikeIvanov> Ubuntu
[07:29] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Cool, pastebin sudo parted -l
[07:29] <AirstrikeIvanov> k one moment
[07:29] <al_nz1> EriC^^: other wireless clients (same router) are fine
[07:29] <EriC^^> al_nz1: oh ok
[07:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> bubbasaures  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717129/
[07:31] <AirstrikeIvanov> also the Seagate drive says it has few bad sectors and NEEDS to be formatted regardless, the NTFS partition is unusuable (the 250GB drive)
[07:31] <AirstrikeIvanov> and im assuming the loop partition is my liveusb since its on my usb key
[07:32] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, You have all msdos I would stick with it if it were me but depends on what you want.
[07:32] <AirstrikeIvanov> well, the two 300/250 drives are gonna be erased no matter what
[07:32] <AirstrikeIvanov> i just wasnt sure what would be easier/more supported in the future
[07:33] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, I don't think msdos will go out of support any time soon.'
[07:33] <bubbasaures> or gpt
[07:33] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah should be fine then
[07:33] <AirstrikeIvanov> now just need to figure them out to possibly install two linux OSes on a single drive
[07:34] <AirstrikeIvanov> with a third partition that both can access
[07:35] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, not to hard, I would use manual installs so you can size the partitions there, and make sure grub goes to that HD.
[07:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> bubbasaures yeah ubuntu has come a long way since 5.x and the text installer for sure
[07:35] <ki7mt> That's what I do.
[07:35] <AirstrikeIvanov> confusing the hell out of me lol
[07:36] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Can be confusing if you have been away.
[07:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> then agian that was the last time i used linux so i am thinking about trying out another distro or two
[07:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> like SteamOS maybe
[07:36] <ki7mt> I use EasyBCD to boot Windows and one Grub2, and then use my Ubuntu image to Grub2 boot-load like 8 other versions.
[07:36] <AirstrikeIvanov> well, i have two hard drives with a total of 550 GB space
[07:36] <bubbasaures> AirstrikeIvanov, Personally if I thought I might need help I would have at least one wit wide support.
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> yeah which is why i am here first
[07:37] <bubbasaures> good choice
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> i know ubuntu is still the most used
[07:37] <bubbasaures> heh
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> my firstever was actually freeBSD
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> then a week after i found that i found out about ubuntu and never looked back
[07:37] <AirstrikeIvanov> lol
[07:37] <bubbasaures> ubuntu was first here upon retuning back to college
[07:37] <ki7mt> I would not recommend FreeBSD to a first time *Nix user :-)
[07:38] <AirstrikeIvanov> LOL yeah i know that after the fact
[07:39] <ablest1980> is freebsd easy to use like ubuntu?
[07:39] <ki7mt> In any case, I would crve out a 100GB or so for Windows, and partition the rest for *Nix, and usr BCD to boot load. It's easy, it's fast, and doesn't make Windows angry messing with the MBR
[07:40] <ki7mt> ablest1980, No, but it's a very stable distro.
[07:40] <ablest1980> ok
[07:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> well in this case im just gonna not even bother with the 1TB drive
[07:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> that can remain 100% windows cause its packed full of steam games
[07:40] <AirstrikeIvanov> mostly just figuring out what to do with the rest *Nix and/or MacOS wise
[07:41] <bubbasaures> never had the patience for BCD or gentoo, run every other major though
[07:41] <ablest1980> cs works
[07:41] <ki7mt> Whatever is easiest for you to maintain, that's the best choice :-)
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> ive always wanted to try Gentoo, heard its the best for servers
[07:41] <william1978> Hello
[07:41] <ablest1980> i got valve pack steam os linux
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> but i just use ubuntu-server myself
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> is steamos any different now ablest1980 ?
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> compared ot when it first released in beta
[07:41] <ki7mt> Gentoo is 'very fast' but that's OT here.
[07:41] <ablest1980> idk
[07:41] <ablest1980> i dont know
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> if nothings changed im not gonna try it again lol
[07:41] <somsip> !ot (it's going off topic quickly here...)
[07:41] <william1978> I just started running Xubuntu.  I actually like it.
[07:41] <AirstrikeIvanov> but ubuntu is my first one yes
[07:42] <somsip> !ot
[07:42] <ablest1980> im new to ubuntu too
[07:42] <somsip> discussions about other OSes are best done in #ubuntu-offtopic, if we can keep to support issues here please
[07:42] <william1978> Gentoo is too ...um, not sure how to say it.
[07:42] <william1978> Gentoo is too system based.
[07:42] <ablest1980> gentoo isnt new i believe
[07:43] <ablest1980> i think
[07:43] <william1978> No, Gentoo is not new.
[07:43] <somsip> william1978: can the OT discussion please stop now, or be taken elsewhere. Thank you
[07:43] <ablest1980> is debian the best one?
[07:43] <KEEm> hey guys
[07:43] <ablest1980> hey
[07:43] <bubbasaures> guys somsip was right #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:44] <somsip> ablest1980: is also offtopic. Please keep this channel for support questions only
[07:44] <ablest1980> ok
[07:44] <ablest1980> sry
[07:44] <somsip> thanks guys - welcome to discuss, just not here eh :)
[07:44] <KEEm> i was wondering how you get the firewall to allow ips from running programs
[07:44] <somsip> !ufw | KEEm
[07:45] <william1978> Oh, and thanks for singling me out.
[07:45] <AirstrikeIvanov> oh lord THATS an expiriment i will avoid like the plague the second time around
[07:45] <KEEm> thanks somsip
[07:45] <AirstrikeIvanov> i had to make my own dns service once.
[07:45] <somsip> william1978: don't take it personally. I've been real polite.
[07:46] <william1978> What does making a DNS service once have anything to do with our topic?
[07:46] <ki7mt> If it's a Ubuntu Server, that's on topic.
[07:46] <william1978> ...That is an if.
[07:47] <ki7mt> Indeed.
[07:47] <KEEm> so how does UFW work+
[07:47] <KEEm> *?
[07:47] <william1978> No clue, I'm still trying to figure out wine.
[07:47] <somsip> KEEm: have you read the link in the reponse from the bot?
[07:48] <KEEm> yeah :)
[07:48] <KEEm> but thanks
[07:48] <KEEm> somsip i will read them carefully :)
[07:48] <somsip> KEEm: so what do you need to know that it doesn't tell you on the wiki?
[07:48] <ki7mt> KEEm, bascially, it's all rules based, if rule x,y,z, do a,b,c: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
[07:49] <william1978> Can you please post the link for my sake?
[07:49] <KEEm> but is there a easy way to make it allow only running applications ?
[07:50] <somsip> KEEm: you want to wildcard allow on all apps that are currently running?
[07:50] <ki7mt> KEEm, not to be rude, but easy to one person may not be to another, it's best to just classify it as, how does one do it.
[07:51] <KEEm> somsip yeah
[07:52] <ki7mt> Not sure if this applies to 14.04 still, but: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/easy-to-use-gui-for-ubuntus-default-firewall
[07:52] <somsip> KEEm: netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN shows you the ports, then use UFW from there or AWK them out if you want a one-liner. But you're on your own on that one, and I'd suggest it's probably not the best approach
[07:57] <loadedanvils> can I do a fresh install of 14.04 from within 14.04?
[07:58] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, YOu can boot the iso with grub
[07:59] <loadedanvils> the problem is, I have 2 ssds inside my computer, one ubuntu, one windows, and I'm nervous about accidentally overwriting the windows one
[07:59] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, you would do a manual install, this a UEFI bios?
[07:59] <loadedanvils> yeah, I think so
[07:59] <loadedanvils> I had to set UEFI before
[08:00] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, Best insurance is an image/clone of windows on a external.
[08:00] <loadedanvils> don't have one
[08:00] <loadedanvils> well, actually, I tried to do it before, the clone was unsuccessful, but it did write windows from one drive to the other. the original got screwed up though
[08:01] <loadedanvils> I don't have a spare SSD
[08:01] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, Windows has an imager built in and multiple uses if pro or above.
[08:02] <loadedanvils> I don't want to try cloning windows again
[08:02] <loadedanvils> I'd rather just install over the original ubuntu installation and not touch that drive
[08:03] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, Nice thing with W8 it is a bit easier to do a reset or refresh, it just really a mater of backups really. Does not seem this is part of the plan however, just be careful, ask questions here if needed.
[08:03] <loadedanvils> I have windows 7
[08:04] <loadedanvils> the thing that bothers me is the step by step install, I'm not sure if I'll get the option of choosing which drive to install to or if it will just do it automatically
[08:05] <bubbasaures> loadedanvils, you do it's something else in the gui to choose the install]
[08:05] <bubbasaures> a manual install
[08:05] <loadedanvils> I'll see what I can do
[08:09] <ki7mt> It's in the partitioner section, when it asks you, Use Entire Disk, or Something Else, select Something Else.
[08:13] <Guest74534> hello where can i find help on pc desktop repair and tech support
[08:14] <bubbasaures> Guest74534, #hardware and a channel of the os.
[08:15] <bubbasaures> !alis | Guest74534 might help
[08:16] <Guest74534> #bubbasaures thanks
[08:16] <bubbasaures> no prob, hope that get's you going
[08:18]  * swordsmanz thinks there is a big problem with the way ubuntu compiles kernals
[08:19] <bubbasaures> here we go again
[08:22] <theptr> hi, does anyone has a good manual for setting up a active directory with samba4 in ubuntu 14.04.1 server
[08:22] <william1978> Oooh, that is tasty ad nice. :O
[08:22]  * swordsmanz points out the kernals in the reopo's are clearly compiled diferently to kernals that are packaged with releases
[08:24] <bubbasaures> swordsmanz, not a direct support issue, how about #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <swordsmanz> bubbasaures actuyally it is
[08:25] <bubbasaures> swordsmanz, heh if you say so.
[08:25] <swordsmanz> becouse not i need to know the difference in how the they are built
[08:25] <bubbasaures> I'm not gonna get into a childish arguement
[08:25] <bubbasaures> argument*
[08:25] <OerHeks> swordsmanz, not true, kernels in repo's and install iso are the same, how do you tell they are different?
[08:25] <swordsmanz> so i can build one that will actually run properly on this (fairly standard) hardware
[08:27] <ki7mt> swordsmanz, YOu can always join the kernel team and work with them to improve on what you think needs work.
[08:27] <swordsmanz> OerHeks well realease kernals are clearly compiled to bypass IBS (power managment amd cpus) where as the updated kernals in repos are not
[08:28] <swordsmanz> ki7mt where are they
[08:28] <swordsmanz> tell me where to find them
[08:28] <bubbasaures> must be nice to have the world revolve around you
[08:29] <Guest74534> is threre a reson why the msg says cannot post to channel
[08:30] <ki7mt> swordsmanz, #ubuntu-kernel I believe, or #ubuntu-devel
[08:30] <william1978> I pee
[08:30] <fidel_> Guest74534: some freenode channels require an authed account - otherwise you cant write to a channel.
[08:30] <fidel_> *registered account*
[08:31] <william1978> Don't wory, I pee'd well.  :P
[08:31] <Guest74534> #fidel how do i authed account
[08:32] <k1l_> !register | Guest74534
[08:32] <swordsmanz> bubbasaures i fell you are being a bit rude
[08:38] <theadmin> !ops | william1978
[08:38] <MMukherjee> Hello.
[08:39] <MMukherjee> I can't SSH into my server on port 22
[08:39] <theadmin> Is OpenSSH installed and running?
[08:39] <MMukherjee> Yes it is.
[08:39] <theadmin> On the machine, can you "ssh $USER@localhost" ?
[08:40] <MMukherjee> Yes I can.
[08:40] <MMukherjee> It's on my LAN
[08:40] <MMukherjee> Its IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <MMukherjee> Mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <MMukherjee> It's virtualized
[08:40] <theadmin> Virtualised how?
[08:40] <sarid> can you ping it?
[08:40] <MMukherjee> It's done using VMware Workstation
[08:40] <MMukherjee> I can, yeah.
[08:41] <MMukherjee> It
[08:41] <MMukherjee> It's bridged
[08:41] <sarid> what's the output of netstat -anp at the console?
[08:41] <theadmin> Oof, no, I'm not touching that, I'm not familiar with VMWare.
[08:41] <MMukherjee> Let me tell
[08:42] <cfhowlett> vmware | MMukherjee
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !vmware | MMukherjee
[08:42] <MMukherjee> ??
[08:42] <MMukherjee> Well, I'm not asking about how to install VMware Workstation you idiot
[08:43] <MMukherjee> I'm saying SSH doesn't work in a VM running Ubuntu
[08:43] <cfhowlett> MMukherjee,  insults will get you ... added to /ignore.
[08:43] <ki7mt> MMukherjee, define doesn't work?
[08:44] <rww> cfhowlett: Regardless of the tone, if you don't know the answer to something, not saying anything is better than blindly issuing factoids.
[08:44] <cfhowlett> rww, manuals and support are available in the url.  it'
[08:44] <cfhowlett>  wasn't a blind factoid
[08:44] <theptr> MMukherjee, what are you trying to do because i dont understand
[08:45] <MMukherjee> Well, let me show.
[08:45] <rww> cfhowlett: Installing VMWare is completely unrelated to the user's question.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> rww, OK
[08:45] <MMukherjee> I have a VM running Ubuntu
[08:45] <MMukherjee> On VMware Workstation
[08:45] <MMukherjee> I try to SSH to it from the host machine
[08:45] <ki7mt> Ubuntu server or DE
[08:45] <MMukherjee> It fails.
[08:45] <MMukherjee> Ubuntu Minimal with SSH installed
[08:45] <theptr> MMukherjee, so your host is a windows i think
[08:45] <rww> cfhowlett: and in case it's not obvious: this is something I would like you to consider in general in the future, not just say "OK" to now and then go back to doing it
[08:46] <sarid> MMukherjee, "netstat -anp" output, please
[08:46] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717349/
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Here it is
[08:46] <theptr> MMukherjee, do you have internet connection on your ubuntu
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Just leave the *shell
[08:46] <MMukherjee> I
[08:46] <MMukherjee> I have.
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Using Bridged
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Bridged NET to router
[08:46] <theptr> MMukherjee, okay thats good
[08:46] <theptr> MMukherjee,  im gonna try to replicate your setup
[08:46] <MMukherjee> Just leave the 18*shell please
[08:46] <ki7mt> Using bridged should allow access if you installer openssh-server
[08:46] <MMukherjee> I installed it
[08:47] <theptr> MMukherjee,  do you have changed the sshd config ?
[08:47] <sarid> ssh is definitely listening
[08:47] <swordsmanz> *nods*
[08:47] <MMukherjee> I changed it..
[08:47] <MMukherjee> To allow connections to root
[08:47] <cfhowlett> rww, pretty sure I don't have a reputation for blind/shotgun factoid triggers but ... OK
[08:47] <sarid> MMukherjee, are you trying to ssh as root?
[08:47] <MMukherjee> No,
[08:47] <theptr> MMukherjee, to enable connections to root you have to activate root account
[08:47] <MMukherjee> As a normal user.
[08:48] <rww> cfhowlett: Yes, you do.
[08:48] <yenic> is there an instantbird ppa? I can't get it to run as it is from their website.
[08:48] <MMukherjee> I cannot connect because it says "Connection Refused"
[08:48] <yenic> I get this error, I think it's pointing to the wrong location in ubuntu 14.04 for that library- ./instantbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:48] <theptr> MMukherjee, do you use putty ?
[08:48] <swordsmanz> MMukherjee do you have a firewall running between clint and host ?
[08:48] <ki7mt> MMukherjee, ok, first thing is to get more data from the failed attempt, ssh -v .. .. .. and what's that telling you
[08:48] <yenic> I checked and that dependency is installed
[08:48] <MMukherjee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717353/
[08:48] <MMukherjee> No.
[08:49] <MMukherjee> There's no Firewall
[08:49] <sarid> output of iptables-save?
[08:49] <MMukherjee> OK
[08:49] <sarid> and you can ping it from the host you're sshing from?
[08:49] <swordsmanz> ^
[08:49] <MMukherjee> I can
[08:50] <theptr> MMukherjee, i gonna tell you how i do it i install open-sshserver and i set my vmware workstation on bridge normally i can ping the host . if that work i open putty and i give it the ip of my ubuntu client
[08:50] <MMukherjee> Sorry, it gives abosolutely none
[08:50] <theptr> MMukherjee, standard its listens to port 22
[08:50] <MMukherjee> I
[08:51] <MMukherjee> I'm trying to connect on 22 -.-
[08:51] <sarid> theptr, it is listening
[08:51] <theptr> MMukherjee, if you have don al that and it doenst work i think it could be a firewall
[08:51] <MMukherjee> well, uh
[08:52] <MMukherjee> I'm sure there's abosolutely no firewall
[08:52] <theptr> MMukherjee, i expirenced that problems when i had zonealarm on the host
[08:52] <theptr> MMukherjee, let me think what it also could be
[08:52] <sarid> lots of services
[08:53] <theptr> MMukherjee, has it ever worked
[08:53] <sarid> theptr, there's this: /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock
[08:54] <theptr> sarid, has he fail2ban on the system ?
[08:54] <sarid> it appears so
[08:54] <sarid> line 86 of netstat output
[08:54] <theptr> MMukherjee, can you tell what you configured in fail2ban ?
[08:54] <MMukherjee> It has
[08:55] <theptr> sarid, now i see
[08:55] <MMukherjee> I just sudo apt-get remove --purge'd fail2ban
[08:55] <MMukherjee> Aaaaaand: it now works
[08:55] <MMukherjee> horrible.
[08:55] <theptr> MMukherjee, maybe also auto-remove
[08:55] <MMukherjee> I just wasted my time
[08:55] <MMukherjee> -.-
[08:55] <sarid> lol
[08:55] <theptr> MMukherjee, you have to configure fail2ban so that it allows connections from your host :)
[08:55] <sarid> MMukherjee, if you learn nothing in your journeys, they are quite wasted. think of this as having been productive
[08:56] <MMukherjee> hm
[08:56] <MMukherjee> I'm sorry for bothering you guys :(
[08:56] <theptr> MMukherjee, no problem
[08:56] <sarid> not at all. we're on IRC. it means we have free time
[08:56] <sarid> :)
[08:56] <diamat> ^
[08:57] <diamat> hey how do you guys have your terminals configured?
[08:57] <diamat> i have byobu-tmux open with a few windows, weechat in one pane and zsh in other
[08:57] <diamat> sometimes i keep rainbowstream open for twitter stuff
[08:58] <somsip> diamat: this is a support forum. If you just want to chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:00] <diamat> ah
[09:00] <ame> hi can anyone tell me from where i can take all commands and advanced commands used for ubuntu??
[09:00] <theadmin> ame: That would be impossible since Linux "commands" are basically programs, and you can install as many of those as you like.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> ame, "the linux command line" is a free download
[09:01] <theadmin> ame: But for built-in stuff, read "man intro" first
[09:02] <ame> ya i read the man intro.But i want all  the basic and advanced commands used for ubuntu...For eg:ls,ll with full function of that command
[09:02] <somsip> ame: man ls
[09:02] <ame> somsip:thats ok but the need is to know all types of basic commands
[09:03] <ki7mt> ame, that's impossible to list, as its varies depending on the applications installed
[09:03] <cfhowlett> ame, no such resource
[09:03] <ame> okay
[09:03] <somsip> ame: then type 'man' with the name of the other application you want to read about
[09:03] <ame> And one more doubt how to set permission for user to access application??
[09:03] <somsip> !permissions | ame
[09:03] <iptable> man woman > No manual entry for woman
[09:04] <ki7mt> ame, if you want to lean about all the bash commands, type man bash . that will be a good start
[09:04] <iptable> ame, best, if you actually have a real-life-scenario question as something doesn't work, and can't solve it, ask us and we can guide you
[09:04] <somsip> ame: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_all_alphabetic.html
[09:05] <EriC^^> ame: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary.pdf
[09:05] <iptable> 99.9% of the time on ubuntu you will not need to set permissions for user to access an application
[09:06] <ame> iptable:i have install an application for example firefox.users namely A and B.I want to allow user A to access firefox and for B restrivted access
[09:06] <ame> How to do that??
[09:07] <iptable> ame: you want user B to not have access to the internet browsers or just to firefox?
[09:07] <mt__> hi
[09:07] <iptable> users can access the internet using command line browsers, wget, curl and others
[09:07] <ame> just firefox
[09:07] <ame> iptable:the user should not open the application too
[09:08] <iptable> ame: restricting run rights on shared binaries might not be the wisest thing to do, but if you want to go that route, you would find the binary (/usr/local/bin/firefox) and use ACLs (access lists) to remove x (executable) flag for user B.
[09:08] <iptable> ame: a better approach in linux would be to use specific security tools designed for that purpose. You can use apparmor and selinux to restrict access to services and/or applicaitons based on user
[09:09] <diamat> hey ame, did you want something like this?: > ls -1 /bin/ | while read -r line; do whatis "$line"; done
[09:09] <iptable> ame: alternatively, change permission of firefox (if only 2 users involved) to only gives execute rights to user A. Then no other user can execute it. warning - change of ownership for file required which is not wise for firefox
[09:10] <ki7mt> ame, though the use groups, and which groups and file permissions for binaries you don't want users to run. If you want to restrict functions / features within the application, that is an application specific profile restriction.
[09:10] <iptable> diamat: /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin etc
[09:10] <ame> am confused guys
[09:11] <iptable> ame: you should not restrict application access using file permissions... not for shared apps. for that use apparmor and/or selinux, which are tools designed for that purpose
[09:12] <ame> iptable:okay i will try to work on that
[09:12] <ki7mt> actually the standard is called MAC or Mandatory Access Control, and that's exactly what it's designed to do.
[09:12] <iptable> ki7mt: yes, apparmor
[09:13] <NikolaiToryzin> I'm having a super odd issue with a daemon
[09:13] <iptable> install angels ;) Sorry, had to. Ask away
[09:13] <NikolaiToryzin> So I wrote it, confirmed it works with service, set its runlevels, and rebooted the VM
[09:13] <ki7mt> That is implemented though, Linux Security Module, as you stated apparmor SELinux, etc.
[09:13] <ame> iptable:what is difference between basic commands and advanced commands in linux??Am confused because am new to ubuntu
[09:14] <NikolaiToryzin> doesn't start and /var/log/boot.log is totally empty while runlevel confirms it's at N2
[09:14] <cfhowlett> ame, download and read: "The Linux Command Line"
[09:14] <iptable> ame: uhm, define basic and advanced command ...? They are all basic to me?
[09:14] <NikolaiToryzin> This is 14.04 on a lxc VM, by the way.
[09:15] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: you mean a service as in a file in /etc/init or /etc/init.d or something else?
[09:15] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, It's a totally generic sysvinit daemon in /etc/init.d/ that can be launched with service start
[09:16] <NikolaiToryzin> So upstart really shouldn't have a problem with it
[09:16] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: how did you enable it to start on boot? also, does it execute if you run it manually and fails just on boot?
[09:17] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Executes totally normally if I do it manually, and update-rc.d daemon defaults
[09:17] <NikolaiToryzin> As mentioned before I checked to make sure it made its proper symlinks
[09:18] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: so, you got it in /etc/rc*.d, it runs manually, doesn't run on boot and it's an LXC container
[09:18] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, /etc/init.d/ but everything else is correct
[09:18] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: does upstart have sysvinit script enabled? sysvinint nowadays is just a script in upstart. check in /etc/init
[09:19] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: I would be tempted to ask if you could make it please into an upstart job instead and check then. Out of couriosity...
[09:20] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, upstart has a sysvinit script?
[09:20] <NikolaiToryzin> I knew it was a link
[09:21] <iptable> I think it's called rc-sysinint.conf or something
[09:21] <NikolaiToryzin>  /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf does exist
[09:22] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: question is, does it execute in LXC?
[09:22] <iptable> all jobs should be upstart anyways as sysvinit is more or less dead
[09:23] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, upstart knows it exists
[09:23] <iptable> also, do you have /etc/init.d/rcS script?
[09:23] <NikolaiToryzin> I do have that
[09:24] <iptable> Ok, are there any jobs in /etc/init.d that start on boot that are NOT in /etc/init that actually work?
[09:24] <NikolaiToryzin> I know sysvinit is pretty dead, but I share cluster deploy scripts between a bunch of BSD boxes too
[09:24] <iptable> ugh
[09:25] <ikonia> thats a bad idea
[09:25] <ikonia> the scripts should be platform/technology specific
[09:25] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, I don't have any.
[09:25] <iptable> See my last question. Also, does the script have execute permission on it like 775?
[09:25] <NikolaiToryzin> ikonia, It's totally home grown stuff, I /know/ what I'm doing with that :)
[09:25] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, It does
[09:25] <iptable> root can run scripts which don't have 775, while sysvinit cannot
[09:26] <iptable> I would be tempted to think that init.d is disabled in LXC containers. possibly
[09:26] <iptable> the /bin/init it heavily modified in any case for the containers to work
[09:26] <NikolaiToryzin> I'm slightly afraid of that, or it isn't running somehow
[09:27] <iptable> well, if it runs manually and start, stop, restart work, and the syntax is correct (the commented definitions, etc), then LXC containers have sysvinit disabled
[09:27] <leeyaa> hello
[09:27] <iptable> you will have to convert it to upstart
[09:27] <leeyaa> how to rename network interface from em0/1 etc to eth0/1
[09:28] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, so gross :)
[09:28] <MagePsycho> one quesiton when i do which mysql it shows the 4 repeated values
[09:28] <MagePsycho> why is that
[09:28] <NikolaiToryzin> MagePsycho, Pastebin it pls
[09:28] <iptable> apparently lxc_init does not have correct boot management for sysvinint to kick in (as sysvinit requires CHANGES to sysV to happen and you are constantly running in same runlevel on the main kernel)
[09:28] <iptable> Not gorss, per design. you shouldn't be using sysvinint anyways ;)
[09:29] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: ^
[09:29] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Well, then Ubuntu went and figured systemd
[09:29] <ikonia> ubuntu is not using systemd
[09:29] <NikolaiToryzin> Wait, that was Debian
[09:29] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: a workaround would be to create your own upstart job which runs your sysvinint script. it would be dead simple to do.
[09:29] <ikonia> the current LTS versions use upstart, that should be your target
[09:29] <ki7mt> Yeah, lets not start that debate here also.
[09:29] <NikolaiToryzin> Wait, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[09:30] <NikolaiToryzin> ikonia, I do, but I worry about many years later
[09:30] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: many years later you should worry about many years later. important lesson!
[09:31] <iptable> leeyaa: let me google that for you: http://blogs.bu.edu/mhirsch/2012/12/ubuntu-12-10-renaming-ethernet-interfaces-from-p1p1-to-eth0/
[09:32] <cfhowlett> iptable, read your words in Yoda's voice, I did ...
[09:32] <iptable> haha, cfhowlett, that's bad. it made me laugh like crazy in the office :D
[09:32] <MagePsycho> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717484/
[09:33] <MagePsycho> NikolaiToryzin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9717484/
[09:33] <NikolaiToryzin> You installed PHP outside of apt :)
[09:33] <NikolaiToryzin> I'd assume you compiled it
[09:33] <NikolaiToryzin> If you don't set the prefix most configures default to /usr/local
[09:34] <iptable> MagePsycho: so, not mysql, but php. you installed it without using the repos and using repos. you got multiple copies of php installed
[09:34] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Does upstart do any weird respawning or pid watching things I need to worry about?
[09:34] <NikolaiToryzin> The conf I just made looks file
[09:34] <NikolaiToryzin> fine*
[09:34] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: yes, you configure it to either respawn or not. If you want it to respawn, you write : respwan
[09:35] <iptable> uhm, respawn :D
[09:35] <MagePsycho> similar for mysql
[09:35] <MagePsycho> yeah i used package manager called homebrew on mac
[09:35] <iptable> MagePsycho: wait, so that' a mac, not ubuntu?
[09:35] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, Cool, not writing that. We've got our own home grown ways of ensuring this daemon updates itself and restarts without downtime
[09:35] <MagePsycho> yeah but the concept is the same
[09:35] <NikolaiToryzin> MagePsycho, lmao
[09:35] <iptable> MagePsycho: homebrew and OSX do their own installs. Now, it is NOT the same.
[09:35] <NikolaiToryzin> MagePsycho, brew unlink
[09:36] <iptable> unbrew :D
[09:36] <NikolaiToryzin> php^
[09:36] <neionz> fuck, I just shat myself
[09:36] <MagePsycho> i run ubuntu on virtualbox
[09:36] <cfhowlett> iptable, read your words in Yoda's voice, I did ...
[09:36] <neionz> no you don't, MagePsycho
[09:36] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: alternatively, when your startup script on host runs lxc-start, it could ssh <IP_ADDRESS> "service X start" afterwards ;)
[09:36] <cfhowlett> neionz, language and completely offtopic here.  stop.
[09:36] <jpds> neionz: Hi.
[09:37] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, That's awfully gross.
[09:37] <neionz> hi jpds, how's u doin bro?
[09:37] <neionz> cfhowlett: not is, ok me understand, me no u anymore yes. I will.
[09:37] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: not really. I do that for a few extrmelyt heavy boot VMs to control how fast these boot.
[09:38] <patsourakos> hello
[09:38] <iptable> MagePsycho: your ubuntu on virtualbox has nothing to do with the fact you are asking an OSX issue on the ubuntu channel...
[09:38] <patsourakos> when i log in i get 121 packeges can be updated
[09:38] <patsourakos> but apt-get upgrade shows 0
[09:39] <iptable> patsourakos: apt-get update
[09:39] <iptable> patsourakos: then check
[09:39] <MagePsycho> I am trying to dump the file using http://www.blog.magepsycho.com/backup-magento-project-files-db-using-bash-script/
[09:39] <cfhowlett> patsourakos, apt-get dist-upgrade will get them.  here's the TEST: apt-get -s dist-upgrade
[09:39] <MagePsycho> now the problem is i xmllnt is not in one of client server and has no root access
[09:39] <patsourakos> yes dist
[09:39] <MagePsycho> iptable: it’s for the production server btw
[09:40] <patsourakos>  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:40] <iptable> patsourakos: 1. apt-get update!!!!!
[09:40] <patsourakos> yes did this
[09:40] <Marc2> hey, i updated my ubuntu 14.10 and since then unity doesnt start correctly, it only shows the login background; x-0-greeter.log shows a warning: Unable to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: "RegisterClient"
[09:40] <iptable> patsourakos: if you upgraded recenrly then the upgrade check script has not updated. wait 24 hours and reboot while at it
[09:40] <patsourakos> yes i did update recently
[09:40] <iptable> oh
[09:41] <patsourakos> any solution other to  rebooting ?
[09:41] <iptable> patsourakos: this script runs max once every 24h ours to avoid loads.
[09:41] <iptable> patsourakos: let me check. there was a way to manually force it
[09:41] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, How do I even get it to realise I put a conf in /etc/init?
[09:41] <NikolaiToryzin> service daemon restart does nothing
[09:41] <Marc2> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error_quark , 0)
[09:41] <patsourakos> hm anyways it seems now ok .. says system restart required
[09:41] <iptable> NikolaiToryzin: you don't. you just put it there, and that's that
[09:42] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, But ... how do I start it?
[09:42] <NikolaiToryzin> upstart is so odd
[09:43] <jpds> NikolaiToryzin: 'tis actually quite nice.
[09:43] <iptable> you just type in service servicename start
[09:44] <NikolaiToryzin> iptable, holy hell that just worked.
[09:44] <NikolaiToryzin> not the service part, but the booting magically all on its own
[09:44] <iptable> cool
[09:44] <iptable> patsourakos: so it updated
[09:44] <iptable> patsourakos: you need to reboot
[09:44] <NikolaiToryzin> This is freaking magic
[09:48] <leeyaa> iptable: i tried googling first, i dont have 70-persistent-net.rules
[09:48] <leeyaa> udev rules directory is empty
[09:49] <PhilippeGeek> Hello, is MaaS usable for a lot (10) of VM on the same machine ?
[09:50] <simonon> Hi guys! I'm having a strange hard drive issue on my server/htpc, would greatly appreciate any help
[09:51] <simonon> once in a while, about every one or two days it occurs and the file system is remounted read only
[09:51] <simonon> got the following in syslog: http://pastebin.com/AKYz69jV
[09:52] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: MAAS is barebones machine administration and deeployment device. it is usable for 2+ machines
[09:52] <simonon> Tried google but didn't find anything good. Some are suggesting to replace the hard drive or just reinstall.
[09:53] <iptable> simonon: run smart test
[09:53] <PhilippeGeek> iptable: Ok, but is ther no MAAS like system for VMs
[09:53] <simonon> Tried running smartctl on the disk with no errors found
[09:53] <iptable> simonon: could be your controller is dying instead
[09:53] <iptable> simonon: or HDD is dying and smart didn't pick it up
[09:54] <iptable> simonon: anyways, it's end of life is approaching
[09:54] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: nothing is stopping you from administering your VMs using MAAS or Juju.
[09:54] <simonon> right, so I guess it's best to replace before it dies completely and causes further problems
[09:54] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: and MAAS supports multiple power methods, so yes, you can use it with VMs if you wish to do so
[09:55] <iptable> simonon: most likely. reinstall while replacing to get a gfresh OS.
[09:55] <PhilippeGeek> iptable:  What is the diff between MAAS and Juju ?
[09:56] <simonon> iptable: yup, I'll do so. thanks for helping out
[09:56] <iptable> PhilippeGeek: MAAS = deploy machines from images as per deployment configuration, provision machines and get them ready. Juju = deploy services (not machines). Like 'deploy wordpress on this machine and connect it auto-magically to apache there and a database over there please'
[09:57] <iptable> juju works with MAAS as well to auto-deploy machines with services you wish
[09:57] <iptable> and if you slap openstack on top, it's even cooler. you can deploy machines with MAAS, deploy openstack with juju, deploy services on openstack with juju installed on openstack and administer VMs with MAAS too
[09:57] <iptable> have fun :D
[10:03] <onla> hey I added a script to .xinitrc to run it on startup but it is not being run. How do I run things on startup with ubuntu?
[10:07] <onla> okay. I added it to the graphical startup app list
[10:09] <iptable> onla: run graphical things or just command line scripts?
[10:09] <onla> cmd line script
[10:09] <iptable> onla: command line scripts = /etc/init/ or /etc/init.d/ (with update-rc.d) or /etc/rc.local or /etc/crontab with @reboot as time specification
[10:10] <iptable> pick one
[10:10] <onla> ok ty
[10:27] <HoloIRCUser1> Hello✋
[10:37] <kanavero> Hello world ;-)
[10:41] <HoloIRCUser1> Hello
[10:41] <mn3monic> Hello, is there any chance to have LibreOffice working properly with fglrx? :\
[10:42] <HoloIRCUser1> Ye bhau
[10:44] <quackgyver> Hey. Would it be possible (and easy) to install a web server on Ubuntu Desktop just so I can easily experiment with web development and databases?
[10:44] <quackgyver> Is the process the same as installing Apache to a remote server
[10:44] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, very easy
[10:44] <quackgyver> and I just interact with localhost?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> HoloIRCUser1, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:44] <quackgyver> Or is there something more to it
[10:44] <cfhowlett> quackgyver, same process.
[10:44] <quackgyver> Awesome. Thanks a lot.
[10:45] <HoloIRCUser1> Nvidia drivers works good with addition drivers or bumblebee
[10:46] <iptable> nvidia drivers work best nowadays with nvidia-prime, not bumblebee
[10:46] <iptable> although for a few-year-old cards, bumblebee is the only one that will work
[10:46] <HoloIRCUser1> Ohk
[10:47] <HoloIRCUser1> Thanks
[10:56] <Fudster> Crap. I locked myself out of my normal system. I have it in recuse mode now. I think its UFW. Where is the config for it?
[10:59] <phre4k> how do I change the default wallpaper for all Users in Xubuntu?
[11:00] <iptable> phre4k: including those who already logged in at some point, or default for new users (i.e. profile template)?
[11:06] <phre4k> iptable: both. We have a corporate background :)
[11:06] <iptable> ah
[11:06] <iptable> stuffing adverts in your own employees' faces
[11:07] <phre4k> no, it just looks cool and I don't want naked ladies as backgrounds
[11:07] <iptable> sutff that in: xfconf-query --channel xfce4-desktop --property /backdrop/screen0/monitor0/image-path --set /usr/share/backgrounds/xfce/xfce-blue.jpg
[11:08] <iptable> make a policy then that all ladies in the background need to be appropriately dressed :D
[11:08] <phre4k> iptable: looool :D that would be sexist.
[11:09] <phre4k> I think the women of the office would have a good laugh though.
[11:09] <iptable> ok, put in that men need to walk around appropriately dressed as well to even out
[11:09] <iptable> see this thou: http://askubuntu.com/questions/414422/command-to-change-the-wallpaper-in-xubuntu
[11:09] <phre4k> and the default WP? Do I do that in /etc/profile whatever?
[11:10] <iptable> well, you can force the change using that whenever anyone is logged in and at all times, so that they can't bugger it up ;)
[11:10] <iptable> not sure about default wallapper location :/
[11:10] <phre4k> iptable: ty for the link, found out I have to xfconf-query -c xfce4-desktop -p /backdrop -lv first
[11:10] <iptable> nice
[11:11] <phre4k> I'll do a lil' research for the default WP
[11:11] <phre4k> ty so far
[11:11] <iptable> for defaults: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7794
[11:11] <iptable> phre4k: ^
[11:11] <iptable> or otherwise /etc/skel
[11:11] <phre4k> kk ty
[11:25] <account-root> 你好
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !cn | account-root
[11:27] <account-root> cfhowlett :-)
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !kylin | account-root
[11:27] <account-root> cfhowlett ok
[11:27] <account-root> cfhowlett #kylin ???
[11:28] <cfhowlett> account-root, Chinese ubuntu flavor
[11:28] <account-root> join #ubuntukylin
[11:29] <cfhowlett> account-root, http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin-zh-CN
[11:30] <Raydiation> hi, im looking for the package python3-pip on ubuntu 12.04
[11:30] <Raydiation> it does not seem to be available though
[11:31] <EriC^^> !find python3
[11:31] <daftykins> EriC^^: psst, ... precise
[11:31] <daftykins> :)
[11:31] <EriC^^> daftykins: :)
[11:31] <EriC^^> !info python3-pip precise
[11:32] <Raydiation> exactly :)
[11:32] <Raydiation> so where is pip then
[11:32] <Raydiation> !info python-pip precise
[11:32] <daftykins> wellity wellity.
[11:32] <Raydiation> because the python2 version is available
[11:33] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/412178/how-to-install-pip-for-python-3-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[11:33] <daftykins> top google result.
[11:33]  * daftykins tuts at Raydiation
[11:34] <Raydiation> that was my previous solution :)
[11:34] <Raydiation> i thought i could take a shortcut and just use the package manager
[11:36] <Raydiation> kinda unfortunate that travis ci is still stuck on 12.04
[11:38] <Python2> you can roll your own packages
[11:40] <daftykins> or write a script!
[11:45] <ioanel> how do I create a new binding for alt+f2 combination
[11:46] <bazhang> on unity or gnome-shell
[11:46] <refj> Is launchpad still the correct place to report bugs? I reported a bug two months ago concerning net-install (debian-installer) and it is still in "New" status.
[11:47] <ioanel> gnome
[11:47] <daftykins> !bug
[11:47] <daftykins> refj: ^
[11:57] <OerHeks> refj, if no one has got the same issue, it will not be confirmed.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:05] <semicolon> BluesKaj good morning
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi semicolon
[12:05] <daftykins> BluesKaj: wb \o
[12:05] <BluesKaj> hey daftykins
[12:12] <refj> salvia
[12:16] <Sycrid> hi guys, can anyone tell me if I can use remmina, to connect from one linux machine to another?
[12:17] <daftykins> it supports multiple protocols, so technically yes - but you'd need some additional setup
[12:17] <daftykins> http://remmina.sourceforge.net/
[12:17] <kblin> hi folks
[12:17] <bazhang> its in the repos Sycrid you can install it from there
[12:18] <asxetos_> hello.. i reset my password (root) wth drop shell in mode.. in recoverty
[12:18] <bazhang> !info remmina | Sycrid
[12:18] <bazhang> asxetos_, Your sudo password?
[12:18] <Sycrid> bazhang: Yeah, I have it installed and I'm using it to get from linux to windows, but I am struggling to get a linux to linux connection... is that possible?
[12:18] <kblin> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an HP Precision workstation with a hardware RAID and failing, is there any way I can load the drivers during installation?
[12:19] <asxetos_> yes
[12:19] <asxetos_> but when i try 2 login.. problem..
[12:19] <asxetos_> not say the password is rong.. but screenn refresh and neet ander again password
[12:19] <asxetos_> but again the same.. screnn resfresh
[12:19] <daftykins> asxetos_: did you remount read-write before you ran passwd, in recovery?
[12:19] <asxetos_> yes...
[12:20] <bazhang> remmina-plugin-rdp <--- is that installed Sycrid , there are a couple of other plugins as well
[12:20] <Sycrid> ahh ok