[00:00] <ShawnRisk> any help on my question?
[00:02] <Beldar> ShawnRisk, The help is free, you have to have some patience.
[00:02] <ckindley> Hmm, new news on my failing PXE bot setup.
[00:03] <ckindley> sp/bot/boot
[00:03] <ckindley> It says RPC:Connection refused when trying to mount the NFS root, but no request ever is seen on the server (at least via tcpdump)
[00:04] <ShawnRisk> Beldar: always am but this is almost unusable laptop now.
[00:04] <Node-1> whats up guys
[00:04] <Beldar> ShawnRisk, Hmm, not to irritate you but the world does not stop for individual issues. ;)
[00:05] <Node-1> whats up guys?
[00:05] <Node-1> logging on from one of my now 12
[00:05] <idaze> Hey what's the best irc channel for programming?
[00:05] <ShawnRisk> Beldar: oh right, I forgot, everyone is busy but me :P
[00:06] <Node-1> servers, and that was 12.04 LTS
[00:06] <Node-1> not 12, i only have 6 servers ;0
[00:06] <Node-1> not 12, i only have 6 servers ;)
[00:07] <pacebl> I'm trying to use alacarte to set an icon for a custom app launcher, it's a 256x256 png in ~/.local/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/ , but when I hit apply it turns into an error icon and the unity launcher just shows a page icon
[00:07] <Node-1> kk, gotta get to my others, needing to upgrade to ubuntu from Winblows XP
[00:08] <Node-1> have fun
[00:08] <Node-1> \exit
[00:08] <ckindley> Has anyone successfully PXE-booted Ubuntu?
[00:08] <Node-1> me
[00:08] <Anuska> Hi, install vnc4server i run, and i connect wit vnc viewer, but give me a background green with 3 selcted option ( Accept clipboard , Send Clipboard, Send primari ... ) but connot give aggre or someting... to close this
[00:08] <Beldar> Node-1, Note using the term Winblows reduces your street creds.
[00:09] <Node-1> Beldar: alrighty thanks
[00:09] <Node-1> windows in general, or that specific derogative
[00:10] <Node-1> ckindly: its really the same principle as the ghosting thing from Symantec
[00:10] <Node-1> yall remember that? Symantec Ghost?
[00:10] <Node-1> ah, the good old days, now its all windows system center
[00:10] <pope1> I used ghost to image school labs back in the 90's :P
[00:10] <Node-1> yeah, it works pretty well
[00:10] <dcope> what bonding mode is used to get two ports to act as one?
[00:11] <ckindley> My issue is with mounting the NFSv4 root
[00:11] <jeffrey_f> ckindley: The trick is in finding a simple PXE application
[00:11] <Node-1> system centers hard to learn how to use, but its worth it for windows imaging
[00:11] <compdoc> Anuska, what version of ubuntu?
[00:11] <Anuska> 14.04
[00:12] <compdoc> vnc4server stopped working after 12.04
[00:12] <Node-1> dang my server is across the big pond
[00:12] <Node-1> not even in US, but i guess thats kiwi for you...
[00:12] <KiWiB0RG> is anyone getting an error using the us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com mirror for lucid-updates ? i started seeing a gpg badsig error :/
[00:12] <Anuska> is worked but give to to be agree with some terms..
[00:12] <ckindley> Despite my best efforts, nothing's even showing up on the server side.
[00:12] <Node-1> ok, guys gotta go
[00:12] <Anuska> but is  ot a botton tu click
[00:12] <Node-1> have fun yall
[00:13] <Node-1> bye
[00:13] <Beldar> Anuska, All help for 14.04 is on #ubuntu+1  many as you have seen are here and there as well.
[00:13] <ckindley> Lots of "connection refused" though...
[00:13] <compdoc> Anuska, oh, I havent tried 14.04, so cool
[00:13] <dcope> i have a round robin bonding mode setup but my server is still getting throttled wtf
[00:13] <idaze> Anyone doing python programming?
[00:13] <Anuska> l
[00:13] <Anuska> k
[00:15] <Beldar> idaze, State the issue for help. When I search freenode I see handfuls of python hits.
[00:17] <ShawnRisk> How  do I fix my right click on touchpad for laptop as originally only clicked crazy double click which was annoying as I couldn't get this to work properly at all.  I changed settings based on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388164&p=8816327#post8816327
[00:24] <funkster> i am doing reverse ssh from my ubuntu to a public server, ssh -N -R 2222:localhost:22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>- the problem im having is, if pi loses connectivity the connection on the public server listening on localhost port 2222 stays up....  i need it to timeout anything i can do?
[00:26] <xar-> funkster: you want the tunnel to die?
[00:26] <funkster> xar-: when it gets disconnected, yes.
[00:27] <xar-> funkster: sounds like you might want "ServerAliveInterval" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Good hunting. :)
[00:31] <funkster> xar-: hmmmm
[00:38] <pacebl> How do I set a custom icon for a custom launcher? I have a .desktop file in .local/share/applications, but it won't use my custom icon which lives in .local/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/
[00:39] <kostkon> pacebl, try giving it the absolute path
[00:39] <pacebl> kostkon: I am using the absolute path
[00:41] <mint__> greetings
[00:42] <mint__> why can i not view files off of raid 1 drive, but it can be seen in disk util
[00:43] <Guest97980> hi all
[00:44] <bugtraq> hi
[00:46] <UBUNTUuser> hi guys I want to ask about ubuntu 14.04
[00:47] <UBUNTUuser> is the boot signiture signed by microsoft
[00:47] <xar-> UBUNTUuser: /join #ubuntu+1 ; is the best channel for 14.04 questions.
[00:48] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I was wondering what language would I need to script/program to make
[00:48] <Demon_Jester> crap
[00:48] <Demon_Jester> hold on
[00:48] <kongthap> usually when ubuntu becomes freeze so i must use the pc's reset button, what should i do/perform to make sure that no system files damage ?
[00:48] <Demon_Jester> to make ui in CLI, for example, htop, aircrack etc.
[00:49] <xar-> Demon_Jester: learn to wield ncurses. /join #linux for more exploratory questions regarding general Linux questions.
[00:51] <yolo_> hello
[00:51] <daftykins> hi
[00:51] <yolo_> hey guys,  i went to the python channel and was flagged as "unresgistered" i couldn't chat with anybody
[00:52] <yolo_> how do i register ?
[00:52] <ponbiki> you're nick?
[00:52] <yolo_> my nick ?
[00:52] <yolo_> yolo_ ?
[00:52] <ponbiki> /msg NickServ REGISTER passwd email
[00:52] <ponbiki> iirc
[00:52] <yolo_> thi is it
[00:52] <yolo_> ohh
[00:53] <yolo_> i have to do that in the python channel ?
[00:53] <ponbiki> no
[00:53] <Geo> Hi, I'm about to attempt to hot swap a SATA drive from a mdstat-run RAID 5... any thoughts or words of advice on how to proceed?
[00:53] <ponbiki> it's netwrok wide
[00:53] <yolo_> well this name is registered as mine
[00:53] <yolo_> i registered it
[00:54] <ponbiki> cool
[00:54] <ponbiki> you should be able to join #python now
[00:54] <xar-> Geo: mdadm /dev/mdX --remove /dev/<drive>; should about cover it; man mdadm.
[00:54] <yolo_> by why does it say that i'm unregistered ?
[00:54] <ponbiki> it means you're nick isn't registered
[00:55] <Geo> xar: I have the procedure down... more curious about any common gotchas associated with pulling a drive out while the system is on
[00:55] <ponbiki> or you're not identified
[00:55] <Geo> I'm sure people have hosed things up pretty good before
[00:55] <yolo_> ohh ok
[00:55] <yolo_> it works now
[00:55] <yolo_> i didn't confirm
[00:55] <yolo_> thanks
[00:56] <ponbiki> you're welcome
[00:56] <xar-> Geo: I usually don't hot pull unless it's enterprise grade hardware; can you not shut it down?
[00:56] <Geo> I could; I'd just much rather not
[00:57] <Geo> so trying to get a little more educated on the risks and common pitfalls
[00:57] <xar-> Geo: pardon me, it's gonna be --fail <device> and --remove <device>; what kind of RAID is it?
[00:57] <Geo> 5
[00:58] <Geo> all the drives are fine, Im' just prepping to grow it
[00:58] <Geo> so even if one other fails while i pull this out, I can place it back in and be ok... I only run into probs if more than one fails :)
[01:00] <Wonder567> hi
[01:00] <xar-> Geo: it's best to grow when the array is not degraded, as the entire layout on all the disks will be shifting, as it's 5, you always run the risk of a URE surfacing during a disk rebuild, which is why people use 6.
[01:01] <Geo> right, I'm going to swap all the disks first and get it all back up, then grow the partitions
[01:02] <xar-> Geo: that's a lot of disk i/o; good luck! just make sure it's clean and the superblock has persistence.
[01:03] <Wonder567> could I please paste a pastebin regarding Lucid Lynx updates?
[01:03] <xar-> Geo: and schedule a 5-6 transition ASAP.
[01:03] <Geo> feel free to send me more controller cards and drives at your convenience :)
[01:03] <Geo> I have to work with what I got
[01:03] <xar-> I'm not saying it just say it. It's just best practices. I hope it's not your data, and someone elses ;)
[01:04] <xar-> s/saying it/saying it to/
[01:04] <Wonder567> hello? blah
[01:04] <Beldar> Wonder567, Include it with a outline of the issue and whether this is a server or desktop.
[01:05] <SuperLag> Are there any GUI tools for update-alternatives *besides* galternatives?
[01:05] <mint__> hey, how can i view xfs filesystem from a raid 1?
[01:05] <Wonder567> Beldar: this is server edition lucid lynx
[01:06] <Beldar> Wonder567, Cool, so tell the channel the issue and include the paste if you like.
[01:06] <xar-> mint__: your question is confusing? is the device with the xfs filesystem, mounted?
[01:06] <Wonder567> Beldar: Thanks
[01:06] <Beldar> Wonder567, No prob, I know little about servers so tell everyone. ;)
[01:07] <Wonder567> the issue I am having is this robot finds kitten program I stumbled upon this post and it's nagging me.
[01:07] <mint__> xar-: Yes i can see it in gpart
[01:07] <xar-> mint__: if it were mounted, you would have a directory with which to interact with the block device. What is the directory? Go to it.
[01:08] <Wonder567> I have a pastebin link here -------------------->   http://pastebin.com/Ucv9sdS1
[01:08] <Wonder567> I am just interested in this problem I am no programmer just a noober
[01:08] <Wonder567> I have just installed firefox 28 system wide in /opt
[01:08] <Wonder567> on a lucid lynx system I have here
[01:09] <daftykins> lucid is EOL
[01:09] <Wonder567> I understand
[01:09] <birdman007> im using xubuntu and no matter what i do i cannot get conky to show up after i login, i have it set up to auto start and it runs but is not visible
[01:10] <Wonder567> Beldar could you take a look at that pastebin and just see what you think?
[01:10] <Beldar> birdman007, This a custom conky? Has is ever shown?
[01:11] <birdman007> if i execute it from the terminal then it shows up fine just not when i have it set to autostart after i login
[01:11] <Beldar> Wonder567, I did, YOU cleaned but did not run a update before the upgrade, not sure it will matter in the error, however does in general.
[01:11] <mint__> xar-: no directory, cannot see it in the devices
[01:12] <Beldar> birdman007, Include a delayed start time in the auto start
[01:13] <Wonder567> Beldar it was a post in the noob forums so after a mess with a system wide firefox update for me with lucid I decided to try to help.
[01:13] <birdman007> i have and it still does not show up
[01:14] <Beldar> birdman007, you tried various delays up to?
[01:14] <birdman007> only 50 seconds
[01:14] <birdman007> max
[01:14] <Beldar> birdman007, Ah that would be plenty, not sure really here.
[01:17] <birdman007> ill just have to keep tweaking it till it works
[01:17] <Wonder567> Beldar you may be interested in this link for your references it involves Firefox 28 on Lucid added in /opt system wide.---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209313
[01:17] <Wonder567> sorry to be a bother
[01:17] <Wonder567> certs still get updates on Luicd till april 28
[01:18] <daftykins> Wonder567: i don't understand why you're bothering to put any effort into an EOL OS
[01:18] <Wonder567> that post I placed in the pastebin was just a odd question
[01:18] <daftykins> it's game over, you must update, that's all that can really be said
[01:18] <Wonder567> dafty it's cause of a lexmark x5070 driver
[01:18] <Wonder567> daftykins excuse me
[01:19] <daftykins> you really can't get that going on 12.04?
[01:19] <Wonder567> daftykins: nah tried it i'm no coder
[01:20] <Geo> How can I identify which physical drive corresponds to a mounted drive in the OS?
[01:21] <daftykins> Geo: type 'mount'
[01:22] <scuba323> Hey everyone. I can't seem to get my WiFi working I.
[01:22] <scuba323> On HP 2000 its a live CD any help? Like driver locations Google isn't helping me for once lol
[01:23] <daftykins> are you new to ubuntu and Linux?
[01:23] <Geo> daftykins- and? I'm looking for the *physical* drive
[01:23] <Geo> the piece of metal in my hand
[01:23] <Wonder567> any of you use Brother printers under Ubuntu?
[01:23] <Geo> how do I know which of those hunks of silicone is sdb, sdc, etc?
[01:23] <scuba323> Not really. Since 2010 haha just never had this issue. This is a new laptop and I just booted my live USB
[01:23] <Wonder567> I set up a Brother MFC-295CN under Mint Maya with cups it's kinda nice.
[01:24] <daftykins> scuba323: ok, well theres not a lot that can be done during a live session, it needs to be installed really
[01:25] <SchrodingersScat> Geo: are the drives identical?
[01:25] <Geo> SchrodingersScat: same make/model, yes
[01:25] <Beldar> scuba323, appears to be a broadcom.
[01:25] <scuba323> Daftykins: I figured :(  any other distros you recommend
[01:26] <daftykins> scuba323: changing distro isn't going to change your situation... are you saying you want it working *live* ? look into making up the flash drive persistent
[01:26] <scuba323> Beldar: should I get those drivers
[01:27] <wrb123> hello. can someone help me interpret my mail.log?  new to this but seeing a lot of "postfix/smtpd: connect from unknown [ip.add.ress.here];  Warning: connection rate limit exceeded from [ip.add.ress.here]
[01:27] <wrb123> like multiple times a second for 5 minutes and then it stopped
[01:28] <scuba323> Datfykin: that is probably my best option considering the fact I am using a friends laptop :p my old think pad is...well old lol
[01:28] <scuba323> Daftykins: *
[01:29] <Geo> wrb123: do you recognize the IP address?
[01:29] <Beldar> scuba323, Well I would confirm which broadcom from 'lspci' in the cli first. There is a broadcom wiki, doing this on a live will probably be doable, not sure really.
[01:29] <Beldar> !scuba323 | scuba323
[01:29] <daftykins> heh
[01:29] <Beldar> !broadcom | scuba323
[01:29] <Beldar> Doh.
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> when will broadcom's horrors be put to an end?
[01:30] <scuba323> Hold on. I'll get my Ethernet cord out. I'm on my phone and tagging peoples a pain
 sorry users, your princess er i mean working drivers are in another castle
[01:30] <wrb123> Geo no, not at all. I set up the server and attempted to secure it just to learn, don't have anyone who knows about the domain or anything, no app or site on the server yet
[01:30] <Geo> SchrodingersScat: no other thoughts on how to differentiate the drives?
[01:30] <Geo> wrb123: then it sounds like someone is scanning it, and likely trying a brute force attack against it
[01:31] <daftykins> Geo: dmesg should show output when they were detected, they should show full serial numbers
[01:31] <daftykins> that would get you to sda/b/c etc
[01:32] <goodtime> hmmm
[01:32] <wrb123> Geo can fail2ban block mail attacks like that? I think right now I only have it setup for ssh attempts, which is blocked with an encryption key and disabled root login anyway
[01:32] <goodtime> wow thats a bad setup
[01:33] <goodtime> why would anyone disable the login
[01:33] <daftykins> more to the point you shouldn't even have a root pass :D
[01:33] <goodtime> lol yeah i guess
[01:34] <daftykins> goodtime: perhaps you misread, disabling root from logging in via SSH is good
[01:34] <goodtime> oic okay
[01:34]  * wrb123 slaps goodtime with a large trout
[01:34] <scuba323> ubottu: Could you resend that link. I switched to PC
[01:34] <goodtime> yeah thats is smart sorry
[01:34] <Geo> daftykins, I see model #s, but no serial #s
[01:34] <scuba323> oops :P Who ever sent the link :P
[01:35] <Ben64> !broadcom | scuba323
[01:35] <scuba323> Ben64: Thanks!
[01:35] <Geo> wrb123: maybe? I don't know
[01:35] <Geo> google might tell you faster ;)
[01:35] <daftykins> Geo: perhaps hdparm would do it instead then
[01:36] <wrb123> thanks i will look into it
[01:37] <Geo> there we go
[01:37] <Geo> thanks
[01:37] <scuba323> It's a Qualcomm Atheros AR9485
[01:37] <scuba323> so google here I come again :)
[01:39] <rawfodog> my sound isnt working. how do I check which sound drivers I have installed and which are selectted ?
[01:40] <wiak> why ubuntu has a waiting for network configuration that ways over upto 20 min is behind me, no point at all
[01:40] <wiak> 2 min*
[01:41] <sadpuppy> rawfodog
[01:41] <sadpuppy> iobit.com has a free driver check program
[01:41] <rawfodog> what ?
[01:42] <sadpuppy> thats what i use when i have a sound driver problem
[01:43] <rawfodog> sad puppy, this is the ubuntu room though )
[01:43] <sadpuppy> it also downloads the drivers no  extra charge
[01:44] <socks73> hey i have xubuntu on my laptop and some games from the ubuntu software center crash. any advice?
[01:45] <socks73> hey i have xubuntu on my laptop and some games from the ubuntu software center crash. any advice?
[01:49] <skinkitten> is there a way to use the terminal like "emacs ." and have that same terminal window available for other commands
[01:51] <CyborgCygnus> That feature in the Ubuntu Software Centre for syncing computers, does it store the sync info from another in your Ubuntu One account? Because I want to know if you can Sync the app library with a computer that is getting formatted but after it has been formatted & reinstalled?
[01:52] <qin> skinkitten: tmux, screen?
[01:52] <daftykins> CyborgCygnus: ubuntu one just got shutdown
[01:53] <skinkitten> qin, what?
[01:53] <daftykins> skinkitten: sounds to me like you're launching emacs in a less than preferable way to begin with, can you not do it after hitting alt+f2
[01:54] <skinkitten> no
[01:54] <qin> skinkitten: disregard, was reading every forth word
[01:55] <daftykins> skinkitten: how come?
[01:55] <skinkitten> unno
[01:55] <daftykins> skinkitten: you'd have to type it as "emacs ~" instead of "emacs ." more than likely
[01:55] <daftykins> or just look up how to run emacs properly
[01:56] <skinkitten> emacs . starts up emacs, in the current directory I'm in
[01:56] <skinkitten> it loads it up great,
[01:56] <skinkitten> I just want the terminal window to be available for further use
[01:57] <skinkitten> you know isntead of opening a new tab
[01:57] <Scrivener> I installed a bad PPA for a piece of software (gets a 404 when apt-get updating)
[01:57] <daftykins> skinkitten: yeah i understand, but you're not following :(
[01:58] <Scrivener> However, it does not appear in /etc/apt/sources.list nor /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[01:58] <Scrivener> What can I do to remove it?
[01:58] <Scrivener> I've also tried using ppa-purge
[02:02] <ShawnRisk> hi
[02:02] <qin> Scrivener: What ppa is it? and would you paste one line with 404 request?
[02:04] <Scrivener> qin, it's on another machine than I'm chatting on, so I can't paste, but lemme see
[02:04] <daftykins> if it's online sure you could
[02:04] <Scrivener> Ppa is:
[02:04] <Scrivener> ppa:synapse-core/ppa
[02:04] <c2tarun> Scrivener, you can delete the ppa file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[02:05] <Scrivener> Already looked that
[02:05] <Scrivener> there*
[02:05] <Scrivener> And in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:05] <Scrivener> No traces of it.
[02:05] <c2tarun> Scrivener, how did add the ppa?
[02:05] <Scrivener> No traces of it in Software & Updates
[02:05] <c2tarun> how did you add the ppa?
[02:05] <Scrivener> sudo add-apt-repository [ppaname]
[02:06] <c2tarun> Scrivener, can you please direct output of "sudo apt-get update" to pastebin and share here.
[02:06] <ShawnRisk> How  do I fix my right click on touchpad for laptop as originally only clicked crazy double click which was annoying as I couldn't get this to work properly at all.  I changed settings based on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388164&p=8816327#post8816327
[02:06] <Scrivener> c2tarun, I can paste when I log into chat from that machine... not typing from that one atm
[02:07] <c2tarun> Scrivener, are you able to access that machine?
[02:07] <Scrivener> c2tarun, yup, in front of it now, hang on, getting a paste
[02:07] <c2tarun> ok
[02:10] <Scrivener> c2tarun, looks like... they... appeared?
[02:10] <Scrivener> In software & updates, after I reopened.
[02:10] <Scrivener> Removing now O.o
[02:10] <chrislabeard> has anyone had any success installing dvbhdhomerun-utils on 12.04?
[02:10] <Scrivener> That is... uh... odd.
[02:11] <c2tarun> Scrivener, ??
[02:12] <Scrivener> c2tarun, I'm not even sure. I'm poking about. Two synapse entries appeared in the Software & Updates utility though
[02:19] <Linux_Asylum> hey whats the apt-cache option to also include package size?
[02:20] <daftykins> showpkg might say
[02:20] <Linux_Asylum> oh ok thanks daftykins
[02:22] <JCM83> My monitor is a 16:9 ratio, but when I moved from NVIDIA drivers to the xorg nouveau driver, the display dropped to 4:3 and it doesn't appear to have an option in system settings to fix it. What do I need to do? ("Go back to the proprietary NVIDIA driver" is my backup)
[02:23] <daftykins> JCM83: if you look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log does it refer to failing to get EDID info?
[02:24] <daftykins> what's your preference with running open over proprietary? :)
[02:24] <JCM83> Heh well I'd rather run open everything if it works as well, but I understand the nouveau driver fixes some flash rendering problems. Checking the log.
[02:25] <JCM83> I don't see "EDID"
[02:26] <JCM83> [    21.577] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[02:26] <JCM83> [    21.578] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[02:26] <JCM83> [    21.578] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[02:26] <JCM83> [    21.578] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[02:26] <JCM83> [    21.578] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[02:26] <JCM83> would that have to do with it?
[02:26] <unopaste> JCM83 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:26] <advx_> Hi All, Good Morning
[02:28] <JCM83> daftykins, this is the log:http://paste.ubuntu.com/7196922/
[02:29] <JCM83> It seems to be having trouble reading the nvidia module?
[02:30] <JCM83> daftykins There's definitely a bunch of errors but I'm not sure how to interpret them, what their importance is, and which are to be expected and are just sort of defaults.
[02:32] <daftykins> JCM83: sorry was off elsewhere
[02:33] <JCM83> daftykins no problem. See where I posed the log?
[02:33] <JCM83> posted*
[02:33] <JCM83> I was hoping you could help me interpret it.
[02:34] <daftykins> JCM83: yeah, so it's actually loading the VESA driver as if you keep going down, lots of lines begin VESA(0)
[02:34] <JCM83> I actually don't even have the VESA on my "software and updates" list of drivers :/
[02:35] <daftykins> JCM83: can you check if you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[02:35] <daftykins> it's best if you don't
[02:36] <JCM83> searching
[02:37] <daftykins> shouldn't need any form of search, just "ls /var/X11/" :)
[02:37] <daftykins> oops
[02:37] <daftykins> "ls /etc/X11/"
[02:38] <JCM83> got it
[02:38] <JCM83> I don't have xorg.conf, but I do have xorg.conf.failsafe
[02:39] <daftykins> that's ok then, that's how it should be
[02:39] <daftykins> JCM83: is it possible you didn't quite remove the proprietary nvidia driver properly?
[02:40] <daftykins> try "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[02:41] <JCM83> actually I didn't remove it at all! I just went into the "software and updates" ubuntu program/window/app (what are they called here?) and selected the nouveau and said apply changes. I actually would rather not delete the NVIDIA proprietary driver, because they were kind of a pain to find in the first place and they were working great until yesterday.
[02:41] <daftykins> you can't have both on at once
[02:41] <daftykins> that's what's causing this problem :)
[02:42] <daftykins> installing in future is just one command away
[02:42] <JCM83> Heh. I assumed the "software and updates" app would not have them on at once? Does it not do a good job of managing which is, um, "active"?
[02:42] <daftykins> seems not in this case!
[02:42] <JCM83> lol true
[02:43] <JCM83> So how did this come to pass? Is the call for BOTH drivers still present in the booting-up sequence?
[02:43] <daftykins> yeah, evidenced by the fact your log tries to load 'nvidia'
[02:43] <JCM83> Like the software-and-updates window/app/program didn't clear out whatever file tells the machine what to load?
[02:43] <JCM83> Ah. What file is that? Why don't I just go edit it directly and remove the nvidia call?
[02:43] <advx_> bye 4 now
[02:44] <daftykins> JCM83: it's a little deeper than this :) trust me, with nvidia installed you're going to get nowhere
[02:44] <daftykins> if you want nouveau, you must remove it
[02:44] <daftykins> that is the #1 easiest solution
[02:44] <mickster04> !isitoutyet
[02:45] <JCM83> okay. My biggest worry is that if I start uninstalling graphics drivers I'll end up like I did in the beginning when I couldn't see anything until I'd manually loaded the driver onto the USB stick I was booting from.
[02:45] <JCM83> Which is not an unfixable situation it's just a huge pain in the ass
[02:45] <daftykins> your install is on a flash drive?
[02:46] <JCM83> lol no but it was when I first powered this thing up.
[02:46] <mickster04> is there a release party anywhere
[02:46] <JCM83> My machine is made entirely from salvaged parts.
[02:46] <daftykins> mickster04: you're welcome to ask such questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <daftykins> this channel is for support questions only
[02:47] <JCM83> Including what I'm told is a $2,000 workstation GPU, but when I got it I was just like "yo check it out this appears to have monitor plugs on the back." It has been an autodidactic journey, so forgive me if I seem obtuse.
[02:48] <daftykins> so it's a quadro to boot?
[02:48] <daftykins> hrmm
[02:48] <JCM83> Hey yeah it is!
[02:48] <JCM83> How did you know that?
[02:48] <daftykins> that's the name of nvidia workstation class GPUs
[02:49] <JCM83> Hah, encyclopedic knowledge. Cool.
[02:49] <daftykins> anyway i have to head off now, crazy late here
[02:50] <daftykins> but yeah, make sure you recall how you put the nvidia driver you're using on, then kill it
[02:50] <derpii2> hi can anyone tell me how to fix text rendering in gedit? http://i.imgur.com/eCq5SQm.png
[02:50] <daftykins> should be good from there
[02:50] <JCM83> Daftykins can you answer one more?
[02:51] <JCM83> Is it possible for me to just go back to only using the NVIDIA driver alone?
[02:51] <JCM83> it was working fine, I only swapped long enough to try this flash rendering fix.
[02:51] <daftykins> JCM83: sure, just revert what you did in software sources
[02:51] <daftykins> well you were never truly running nouveau again of course
[02:52] <daftykins> you've been in VESA
[02:52] <JCM83> Okay. I have to reboot to apply these driver changers right?
[02:52] <daftykins> ja
[02:53] <JCM83> cool. Thanks daftykins
[02:53] <daftykins> np, enjoy \o
[02:54] <JCM83> o/
[03:04] <tapout> I have 2 folders on 2 different servers.  I want to compute which files are missing/changed between the 2?  ideally md5 each file, compare between servers and report.  anyone know of an app?
[03:04] <david_linhand> how to download from archive.ubuntu.com  from command line ?
[03:04] <cfhowlett> tapout diff command does that IIRC
[03:04] <david_linhand> wget or there is another method ?
[03:07] <tapout> cfhowlett, between servers tho?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !server|tapout I don't know but I know who would; #ubuntu-server
[03:10] <snufft> hey guys
[03:11] <snufft> can i use wget to print to a file all image names and the url that those images are on? or am i in bash script territory for that?
[03:11] <snufft> sorry, i need to spider an entire site and record what pages images are on. just <img> tags, not background images
[03:14] <kupo_> Any possible way to change top panel font for the clock without changing a theme?
[03:19] <blackbird_> seafile
[03:19] <jsliver> https://twitter.com/mdx_jsilver/status/451550189749149696 https://twitter.com/mdx_jsilver/status/451551169442107392 retweet favorite plz
[03:24] <Unitypunk> hey guys..
[03:24] <Unitypunk> im trying to get a shell script to start at boot
[03:24] <Unitypunk> i tried adding it to start up apps with the command i use to start it but it never show sup at boot
[03:31] <xrandr_help_plz> Hey all, can someone help me with mirroring my laptop to a projector with different resolutions? I can't get xrandr to do it.
[03:31] <xrandr_help_plz> I know these resolutions work, and tried xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x900 --output HDMI1 --mode 1920x1200 --same-as LVDS1
[03:32] <xrandr_help_plz> and still get two different displays, not mirrored
[03:32] <xrandr_help_plz> ubuntu 13.10, gnome 3
[03:46] <jorg> hallo
[03:47] <jorg> kann mir jemand evtl. helfen?
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !de|Jorg
[03:47] <jorg> ty
[03:48] <Sansone> hi
[03:49] <Sansone> how can i schedule a single crontab event for a particular date?
[03:51] <somsip> Sansone: if it's not a recurring job, maybe 'at' would be better
[03:53] <Sansone> thanks.
[04:05] <Envy> anyone ever get mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' when trying to mount a new raid set?
[04:12] <Guest49633> is there some way to grant user such right that it can access files owned by root,  i once accidently started xfce as root, now lot of program configuration files belong to root, and i cant acess them, unfortunatly once you start doing something as root, its spreads like tumor making anything it touches belong to root
[04:12] <Guest49633> so there is now too much stuff belonging to root that i can fix them one by one
[04:14] <Ben64> Guest49633: the solution is to either delete or change ownership of the files in your home directory that are owned by root
[04:15] <hemangpatel> Hi
[04:15] <hemangpatel> Is there any way to install new version of php cli in old version of ubuntu ?
[04:16] <hemangpatel> I have Ubuntu 11.10
[04:16] <blkperl> hemangpatel: why not update a version of ubuntu thats supported?
[04:17] <Ben64> hemangpatel: 11.10 is no longer supported here, and no longer receiving any updates. you really need to upgrade
[04:17] <hemangpatel> I have actually xubuntu 11.10
[04:18] <hemangpatel> Is it possible to upgrade to 13.10 Lts ?
[04:18] <blkperl> yes you can upgrade to 12.04 LTS
[04:18] <hemangpatel> why not to 13.10 ?
[04:18] <Ben64> 13.10 is not an lts release, you can upgrade to 12.04, but the newer lts, 14.04 is coming out soon. you may be better off installing fresh instead of updating a bunch
[04:19] <rww> I'd probably go 11.10 -> 12.04 now, then 14.04 in a month.
[04:19] <rww> (since 12.04 -> 14.04 directly is supported)
[04:19] <Envy> da farkl
[04:19] <hemangpatel> Ben64, I'm dev. And i installed many things in my machine
[04:19] <Envy> do you have to create a lvg to mount a raid
[04:19] <Envy> this is driving me banana's
[04:20] <Ben64> hemangpatel: ok? so that means you're happy not receiving updates in a year?
[04:21] <devroot1> Running 13.10, trying to unmount a chroot but upstart-udev-br and systemd-udevd won't let go of /mnt/img/dev/null. Ideas?
[04:25] <hemangpatel> Ben64, I just need new version of php in apt
[04:25] <andrevo> hi somebody can help me please  to find a package i need to install to make find my wifi
[04:26] <slipperynick> .
[04:28] <Beldar> andrevo, Not sure exactly what you're looking for but,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <slipperynick> yes
[04:32] <Ben64> hemangpatel: you need to upgrade to a supported release of ubuntu
[04:32] <hemangpatel> Ben64, ok thank you :)
[04:33] <andrevo> Beldar, i am looking for something i installed and changed the Interface of the window " connection wifi+password"  by default  with a new interface which made works made me able to connect my wifi after click on "connection"
[04:33] <andrevo> new interface of the window "connection wifi + password"
[04:34] <Beldar> andrevo, Maybe it's just me but I can't understand that, and this is an area, others will be better at.
[04:35] <tucemiux> anybody knows how I can find out what usb nics are supported by ubuntu?
[04:38] <tucemiux> !help
[04:39] <tucemiux> hello?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !patience|tucemiux
[04:39] <N3tBug> 	*query
[04:40] <tucemiux> cfhowlett, im just generating traffic, I keep getting dropped form my irc client
[04:40] <tucemiux> anyone knows of usb nick that is supported on ubuntu?
[04:40] <tucemiux> usb NIC
[04:40] <Ben64> tucemiux: there are hundreds if not more
[04:41] <tucemiux> Ben64, you have a link?
[04:41] <Ben64> no...
[04:48] <slipperynick> anyone using byobu and having terminal 'refresh' issues?
[04:51] <eduardo2014> va
[04:53] <sudormrf> hey guys, can anyone help me figure out why incron isn’t working as intended?
[04:54] <invinceable> what's the best way to attach a shell script i have to run at boot? running 12.04LTS server.
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !server|invinceable ask the server channel
[04:55] <Spr1ng> FSCK
[04:55] <Spr1ng> Just lost /etc
[04:57] <invinceable> cfhowlett: thank you
[04:58] <Valduare> hi guys empathy does not remember my password for irc.. any ideas>
[04:59] <sudormrf> so yeah.  incrontab job is there, things are showing in the log, but the file isn’t getting copied :S
[05:01] <sudormrf> is there anyone around that can help with that?
[05:02] <Chuck_Norris> aloha -.-
[05:04] <smrtz> Hey guys. I'm trying to do some data recovery...  I apparently ran "# dd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync" on the HDD in question.  I pulled the drive, and I'm booted into a live enviroment now, I know the first step is to create a byte for byte image of the drive I'm recovering, and work with that, can you guys help me out?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> smrtz archlinux isn't supported here
[05:05] <sudormrf> inotifywatch would be something I wouldn’t mind using either
[05:05] <smrtz> cfhowlett, I'm on ubuntu....
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !undelete
[05:05] <smrtz> cfhowlett, I was trying to make an arch linux install drive on a USB stick at the time...
[05:06] <cfhowlett> smrtz see above.  Sorry, I can't help more than this link
[05:06] <Ben64> smrtz: so why would you write an iso to a drive you wanted to keep data on?
[05:06] <smrtz> Ben64, it was an accident, and caused by drinking?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> lol
[05:07] <Ben64> well, your best bet is photorec
[05:07] <smrtz> Ok, I don't have the drive installed right now, because I wanted to preserve it as much as possible...  but can you tell me the command to copy it please?
[05:08] <smrtz> I thought I knew how to dd, but apparently not...
[05:08] <PolishPickers> czesc przemek
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !polish|PolishPickers
[05:08] <smrtz> would'nt it be dd if=/dev/sdx of=mnt/randomHDDfolderIHave ?
[05:09] <Ben64> smrtz: eh, you don't need to make a copy of it to use photorec.
[05:09] <smrtz> Ben64, Oh?  let me look it up.  I'll be back in a minute...
[05:11] <smrtz> Ben64, can I pm you?  I don't want to flood the channel....
[05:12] <Chuck_Norris> smrtz, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step -.-
[05:12] <sudormrf> maybe incron is not the best option.  perhaps inotifywait?
[05:13] <Ben64> smrtz: use a pastebin
[05:13] <Valduare> hey guys how do you get emapthy to remmeber your irc password
[05:14] <smrtz> Ben64, no, like, I don't want to flood the channel with our conversation.. I'm here because I'm on ubuntu, but this isn't really relevent to ubuntu, so I don't want to be to off topic...
[05:14] <Ben64> there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Valduare: ask in #freenode to have an email to reset your IRC password.
[05:15] <Valduare> thats not the problem
[05:15] <Valduare> empathy is not saving the password
[05:15] <smrtz> Ben64, Ok, I'll talk to you there?
[05:18] <sudormrf> can anyone help me figure out whey incron isn’t working or help me get inotifywait to do the same thing?
[05:18] <decadence18> i need help setting up a vnc/ssh system between my ubuntu 13.10 pc and my linux mint 16 laptop...
[05:18] <PolishPickers> anyone using 14.04 lts yet?
[05:19] <cfhowlett> PolishPickers until it's releases, support/discussion of 14.04 = #ubuntu+1
[05:20] <PolishPickers> thanks just wondered no needed for support just wanted to know if anyone was starting to use it yet
[05:21] <decadence18> anyone?.......................
[05:24] <logical_> hey guys how can i install mate desktop enviroment on ubuntu?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !mate
[05:24] <logical_> its for educational purpose :)
[05:24] <Beldar> logical_, It is in the 14.04 development.
[05:24] <logical_> ok
[05:30] <sudormrf> nm.  sorted
[05:31] <sudormrf> just one quick question about copying things
[05:31] <Biomechd> hey guys, what is "RhythmDB:ERROR:rhythmdb-tree.c:1517:remove_child: assertion failed: (g_hash_table_remove (parent->children, data)) Aborted?"
[05:32] <willwh> probably a problem with rhythmbox?
[05:33] <Biomechd> that much is obvious.
[05:33] <Biomechd> that's the error i'm currently getting when trying to launch it.
[05:33] <willwh> ah
[05:35] <Biomechd> i see there are 1509 people in this room. i'm a bit curious as to how many there would have to be to cause a problem.
[05:36] <Beldar> 1
[05:36] <Biomechd> well, 1511 now.
[05:36] <Biomechd> yes, i realize that anyone could start trolling or some such. but i meant for the system to have a problem.
[05:36] <Beldar> Biomechd, Stay tuned and you will see trouble one person at a time.
[05:37] <Biomechd> Beldar: i'm only here to hopefully get my rhythmbox fixed. :P
[05:39] <Beldar> Biomechd, This a PPA version?
[05:39] <Biomechd> Beldar: it's whatever the pre-installed version is.
[05:40] <Biomechd> i have wubi ubuntu 12.10.
[05:40] <Biomechd> i know i need to migrate and upgrade.
[05:40] <Biomechd> i just haven't yet.
[05:41] <rww> Biomechd: depends on what you define as "system". freenode would be fine, I'd expect some badly-written IRC client to have trouble first
[05:41] <cfhowlett> Biomechd wubi is no longer supported - for that matter 12.10 is end of life
[05:42] <Biomechd> so basically nobody's willing to offer assistance because my ubuntu version's outdated?
[05:43] <rww> if by "outdated" you mean "has unpatched security vulnerabilities because it reached its pre-advertised End of Life date", yes
[05:43] <rww> this is, in fact, channel policy
[05:43] <cfhowlett> Biomechd no, your ubuntu version is unsupported.  upgrade and you'll find all kinds of assistance
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !eol
[05:43] <Biomechd> huh. so i see.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Biomechd options: install 12.04 or 13.10  and STRONGLY consider dual booting so you can get away from your unsupported wubi
[05:45] <Biomechd> cfhowlett: i do dual boot. i have windows 7 and wubi ubuntu 12.10.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|Biomechd
[05:46] <Biomechd> i'm a bit concerned about the migration process.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> Biomechd migration of what?  data?  easy to set up.
[05:46] <cfhowlett> Biomechd may I ask what your hardware specs are?
[05:47] <tbclycan> Right now I am confused on what my issue might be. My laptop got infected the other day and I figured I would just reinstall and try out Linux. First I installed Mint and it would not boot after install fully. So I decided to try Ubuntu thinking maybe something was wrong with the install disk I made. Ubuntu would not fully boot to instalation. Just like LM it would freeze and eventually just linger on a black screen. I figured the h
[05:47] <Biomechd> cfhowlett: a while back, someone told me that you had to migrate away from wubi in order to install anything 13.xx and up, and i know i got a migration batch file from somewhere but i'm not sure if i still have it.
[05:47] <tbclycan> disk could get to the installation parts on other computers, so I removed it and it booted right to mint on another PC no issue. So now I am wondering, if the harddrive is fine, what is bad? Please not the motherboard, is it the Motherboard?
[05:48] <tbclycan> Sorry, I need some help.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> Biomechd again: migrating what, exactly?  Data migration is pretty easy with a USB ...
[05:49] <Biomechd> cfhowlett: not sure. just said migration. but it was a really long time ago, so my memory on the subject could be faulty.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> Biomechd let's PM this discussion ...
[05:49] <Biomechd> cfhowlett: fine by me.
[05:49] <tbclycan> Is there anyone that can help me with my issue please?
[05:51] <smulverine> I've installed the xubuntu and lubuntu desktops; works fine.  But how do I restore the default unity greeter in lightdm?   I'm running 14.04.
[05:51] <cfhowlett> smulverine 14.04 discussion and support = #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <smulverine> cfhowlett: thanks, will check there
[06:05] <jeffrey_f> sort of off-topic: anyone know of ready-made PXE server virtualbox images?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> !vbox|jeffrey_f
[06:07] <cfhowlett> jeffrey_f ask in #vbox
[06:21] <mstaicu> Hello, I have a problem with 13.10. I installed the gnome2 fallback, i.e. sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and now every time I log out or restart my computer, anyone can login with my account. All they have to do is click on the password input and the password is completely ignored. The only time when my password is required is when I lock my screen. Has anyone else experienced this?
[06:22] <monkwitdafunk> Can you use virualbox to set up a guest with its own partition? that way if you use destructive badblocks on that partition, you can start a new guest
[06:23] <cfhowlett> monkwitdafunk ask #vbox
[06:23] <iam_> hey
[06:23] <iam_> whats the best way to read a raid drive xfs?
[06:24] <jazzzz> Hi guys, quick question.. My grandma is really nervous about xp dropping support and so i was planning on installing the ubuntu 14.04 on her system instead.. now i see the final version isnt due to the end of the month.. will it update itself to the final release through update manager?
[06:24] <somsip> !final | jazzzz
[06:24] <cfhowlett> jazzzz assuming you're talking about an older computer here.  suggest lubuntu or xubuntu
[06:24] <cfhowlett> jazzzz also both have a somewhat similar look/feel to XP ...
[06:25] <jazzzz> ok thanks for the suggestions ill take a look
[06:28] <mstaicu> Hello, I have a problem with 13.10. I installed the gnome2 fallback, i.e. sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and now every time I log out or restart my computer, anyone can login with my account. All they have to do is click on the password input and the password is completely ignored. The only time when my password is required is when I lock my screen. Has anyone else experienced this?
[06:28] <sadpuppy> redo install then
[06:28] <bigdaddy> jazzzz.. I too was looking for an alternative since xp will no longer be updated. I'm using Xubuntu and I'm loving it. I'm new to ubuntu and it hasn't taken me long at all to get used to it. I suggest Xubuntu also. Good luck
[06:29] <sadpuppy> try mint or puppy
[06:29] <sadpuppy> distrowatch
[06:29] <Ben64> sadpuppy: its probably not a good idea to suggest other distros that aren't supported here
[06:30] <jazzzz> cool thanks
[06:30] <sadpuppy> because you hate linux?
[06:30] <Ben64> sadpuppy: please start making sense
[06:30] <sadpuppy> one should allways try different os before deciding
[06:30] <cfhowlett> sadpuppy your antics are not forgotten or appreciated
[06:31] <sadpuppy> ignore ben
[06:31] <sadpuppy> ignore cf
[06:31] <iam_> how can i read a raid array on linux?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> bigdaddy updated ubuntu wallpaper:  http://ubuntuone.com/09I6YvRpYmHvCyUQ2la8Fk
[06:32] <mstaicu> There are two accounts on this PC, admin and mine. If I try to login with admin, it requires the password for each session, gnome or unity
[06:33] <mstaicu> If I select my user, it completely bypasses my password
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> ok
[06:33] <bigdaddy> cfhowlett very nice wall paper. thank you :)
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> if there is no password set for user this is normal behaviour
[06:33] <cfhowlett> mstaicu you either didn't set a password or set autologin on your accout
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> session changing is essentially logging out when using a session manager
[06:35] <iam_> Can i mount a raid drive on ubuntu?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> !raid|iam_
[06:36] <mstaicu> No, I have a password and autologgin is not set
[06:36] <mstaicu> I already checked that
[06:39] <mstaicu> It ignores completely what I'm trying to set in my account's settings
[06:39] <mstaicu> I ticked autologin, then unticked it
[06:39] <mstaicu> Nothing happens
[06:40] <mstaicu> And it's just for my account
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> mstaicu: maybe test this with a newly created account?
[06:44] <mstaicu> @aeon-ltd trying that now
[06:46] <E44> I'm thinking of buying a R9 AMD video card, I've been on nvidia for 10 years, does anyone have any experience with AMD + Ubuntu
[06:47] <shah0516> Hi all, After updating my ubuntu 12.04 64bit from 3.5.0-23-generic to 3.5.0-48-generic (via update manager) im unable to boot using new kernel. After display of splash screen it throws a black screen with some text. I had to use old kernel from GRUB list to boot now. Any ideas?
[06:47] <parapan> hi is anybody good with teamviewer under ubuntu ?
[06:47] <monkwitdafunk> Does the r9 amd video card bring out the best feature from a 600hz television?
[06:48] <E44> weird I was just asking about r9
[06:48] <cfhowlett> shah0516 did you only kernel upgrade?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade          (yes, I'm taking a bit of guess here)
[06:48] <shah0516> I have photo of the error message. is there any way I could reproduce to share here?
[06:48] <E44> monkwitdafunk: do you already have a R9? I was thinking of buying one instead of a GTX 760
[06:49] <Ben64> shah0516: post it to imgur or something and give the link here
[06:49] <monkwitdafunk> I would only spend big if i were to use the ati driver that brings 600fps on a television
[06:50] <iam_> whats the cmd to check drives?
[06:50] <iam_> whats the cmd to available drives?
[06:51] <E44> monkwitdafunk: I'm reading this about AMD video drivers right now from GDC 2014
[06:51] <E44> monkwitdafunk: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_kernel&num=1
[06:51] <user5> siema
[06:51] <shah0516> cfhowlett: no, I just updated all the packages shown in update manager(kernel update was among that list). Ben64: sure will do that now
[06:52] <E44> monkwitdafunk: Looks like AMD is trying to do something about their kernel driver, I'm about to drop 200-300$ on a nvidia card but AMD is better bang for buck, only thing left for me is wondering how AMD's linux driver is
[06:53] <monkwitdafunk> Nomodeset works wonderfull on amd fusion with radeon hd 6000m
[06:53] <brothersome> iam_: dmesg | grep drive ........ gives you some list
[06:54] <user5> siema
[06:54] <QtaZ> co
[06:54] <QtaZ> hehe
[06:54] <user5> skuriwl
[06:54] <QtaZ> uwaga
[06:54] <QtaZ> podaje
[06:54] <QtaZ> haslo
[06:54] <QtaZ> haslo
[06:54] <QtaZ> na
[06:55] <QtaZ> dzis
[06:55] <unopaste> QtaZ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:55] <user5> okoń
[06:55] <user5> hasło to okoń
[06:55] <iam_> thanks
[06:55] <user5> sprzedam opla
[06:58] <shah0516> Ben64 cfhowlett : here is the link: http://imgur.com/v0pSJEF
[06:59] <iam_> anyone good with mdadm
[06:59] <iam_> ??
[07:07] <TerranceWarrior> is there a wine channel? how do I get sound working under wine?
[07:08] <l3rg> #winehq
[07:10] <E44> iam_: About 4 years ago I had a NTFS RAID 1, mdadm fixed my drives where neither would mount in windows or linux
[07:10] <E44> iam: but of course you should always have a dd disk image before messing around
[07:11] <iam_> E44: how did you mount the drive
[07:11] <iam_> trying to get that done right now so i  can copy files?
[07:12] <DQSII> i had a question so i use both ubuntu and fedora dual booting and i have 4 storage hard drives and when i format them as ext4 both ubuntu and fedora wont let me copy anything to them unless im root but when there ntfs format i can use them just like normal why ?
[07:12] <mstaicu> Ok, so, creating a new account did the job
[07:12] <mstaicu> It requires a password when logging int
[07:12] <mstaicu> in *
[07:12] <E44> iam_: well, have you already identified what the drive letter is? you can find it under Gnome's disk utility
[07:13] <E44> iam_: RAID setups are listed under /dev/md* i believe usually
[07:13] <mstaicu> But, what I noticed between those two accounts is that the one that doesn't require a password has an arrow in the input, and the one that does require a password doesn't have an arrow
[07:13] <mstaicu> What does this mean?
[07:13] <mstaicu> They don't have automatic loggin
[07:13] <mstaicu> Neither one of them
[07:13] <E44> iam_: sometimes motherboard settings being set on RAID instead of ACH can effect whether or not the OS can see the drive as well
[07:14] <iam_> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/raid1
[07:14] <iam_> mount: mount point /mnt/raid1 does not exist
[07:15] <E44> iam_: most media are now mounted under the /media/ folder on Ubuntu 12.04+
[07:15] <E44> iam_: cd /media/ && sudo mkdir raid1
[07:16] <mstaicu> My users.conf file has
[07:16] <mstaicu> [UserAccounts]
[07:16] <mstaicu> minimum-uid=500
[07:16] <mstaicu> hidden-users=nobody nobody4 noaccess
[07:16] <mstaicu> hidden-shells=/bin/false /usr/sbin/nologin
[07:16] <mstaicu> Is this alright?
[07:16] <unopaste> mstaicu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:16] <iam_> its not media though
[07:16] <E44> ah k
[07:16] <iam_> just docs
[07:16] <E44> either is fine
[07:16] <E44> is the drive ntfs?
[07:17] <E44> NTFS/Windows Filesystem
[07:17] <iam_> no its xfs
[07:17] <iam_> this is the problem
[07:17] <iam_> old nas
[07:18] <E44> i see, yeah then the standard mount command should work fine
[07:18] <E44> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/raid1
[07:18] <E44> after you make sure the folder raid1 exists
[07:19] <iam_> still no
[07:19] <iam_> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/raid1
[07:19] <iam_> mount: mount point /mnt/raid1 does not exist
[07:21] <E44> iam_: if you do #cd /mnt
[07:21] <E44> iam_: ls
[07:22] <E44> you should see a folder existing named raid1
[07:22] <E44> otherwise just change the mount point to the parent folder if the folder is empty
[07:22] <E44> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:22] <iam_> E44> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:22] <iam_> * Loopeth (~kip@nat/canonical
[07:23] <iam_> ignore
[07:23] <iam_>  sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:23] <iam_> mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[07:24] <iam_> E44: this raid was a mirror so its raid1
[07:24] <E44> iam_: how many drives were part of the XFS NAS? I hope they were setup as RAID 1 mirror and not RAID striped
[07:25] <iam_> 2 drives raid 1 mirror
[07:26] <E44> iam_: ok good, im googling
[07:27] <E44> iam_: have you already install mdadm?
[07:27] <E44>  sudo apt-get install mdadm
[07:27] <mstaicu> So, what does the arrow on my password input on the login screen mean?
[07:28] <mstaicu> It's a horizontal arrow
[07:28] <mstaicu> pointing to the right of the screen
[07:28] <mstaicu> located at the end of the password input for my user account
[07:28] <DJones> mstaicu: Is it not just an 'enter/go' key to click after you've input the password
[07:29] <E44> iam_: if you have problems mounting the drive and consider trying fsck and other disk checks the first thing I would do is make a complete disk imagine with #dd
[07:29] <E44> iam_: in 2010 I lost 1,000,000 files on my RAID 1 NTFS
[07:30] <E44> iam_: I later learned RAID 1 mirrors were the wrong kind of backup to protect me from data loss. So I switched to using a program called Unison that syncs data between 2 seperate computers (some people use rsync instead)
[07:31] <E44> iam_: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[07:31] <SunilJoshi> Hello, i have ubuntu 13.10 installed can i upgrade it to Lubuntu 14.04?
[07:33] <DJones> SunilJoshi: 14.04 is still in development until 17th April, you may be better waiting until then before upgrading to 14.04, if you're using standard Ubuntu, you could then install the Lubuntu desktop once the upgrade had been completed
[07:33] <DJones> SunilJoshi: Best place to ask would be in #ubuntu+1 if you were considering upgrading before the release is finalised though
[07:33] <Guest52699> What is the most lightweight lubuntu?
[07:34] <SunilJoshi> DJones: ok thanks!
[07:34] <DJones> Guest52699: Probably lubuntu or xubuntu are the lightest of the Ubuntu variants
[07:34] <Guest52699> I wonder, Do you guys actualy typ my name or is there a shortcut?
[07:34] <DJones> !tab | Guest52699
[07:35] <Guest52699> DJones, lol test
[07:35] <DJones> Guest52699: Just type the first few letters and press tab, that autocompletes the nick
[07:35] <Guest52699> oh ok thanks! =D
[07:36] <nobyte> Help
[07:38] <DJones> nobyte: Ask your question in the channel, once people know what you need help with, hopefully there will be somebody who can help you
[07:38] <mstaicu> The input does not get focus, it acts like an auto login button
[07:40] <mstaicu> So, when booting up, on the login screen, my user account's password input doesn't get focus, it acts like a auto log in button. And it has an arrow which points to the right of the screen
[07:44] <vmusr> clear
[07:44] <nobyte> Lokasi saya: null, Indonesia
[07:46] <Gallomimia> hello everyone. I think i'm going to need to select a wifi adapter. i'll need one that functions with linux obviously. the two USB style nic's I have do not. Is there more luck with pci cards??
[07:47] <bekks> Gallomimia: So which chipsets do those "USB style nics" have?
[07:47] <Gallomimia> i unfortunately don't even know that
[07:47] <bekks> Then plug them in and find out.
[07:48] <Gallomimia> hm.
[07:48] <mstaicu> Problem solved
[07:48] <mstaicu> It turned out that my user was in the nologingroup
[07:48] <mstaicu> I have no idea how he got there
[07:48] <mstaicu> So I issued this command sudo gpasswd -d $USER nopasswdlogin
[07:48] <mstaicu> And everything went back to normal
[07:48] <shambat> what is the best way to log out an instance of a user? (I am logged in twice from two locations and need to log out one of them remotely)
[07:49] <brothersome> Gallomimia, You can also select a Wifi Access Point with an ethernet cord
[07:50] <Gallomimia> if i could reach where i'm going with an ethernet cord do you think i'd bother picking up a new wifi nic and configuring that?
[07:50] <bekks> Gallomimia: Plug in the ones you have and tell us which chipsets they have. No need for grabbing a new one.
[07:50] <Gallomimia> ah, they're missing in action for the time being
[07:51] <Gallomimia> what would i go about doing after i had them?
[07:51] <Gallomimia> lsusb i guess
[07:52] <diverdude> Hello, i am trying to remove redmine via apt-get but i get an error. This is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7197612/ What am I doing wrong?
[08:00] <l3rg> diverdude: maybe just installing the dependencies will help remove the packages as a whole.
[08:02] <diverdude> l3rg: i tried installing redmine-sqlite and redmine-mysql before uninstalling but that did not help
[08:03] <bekks> diverdude: you should investigate why the pre-removal scripts exits with code 10
[08:05] <diverdude> bekks: how can i investigate that?
[08:06] <bekks> By taking a look at the pre-removal script and checking what it would do and why it fails.
[08:08] <AcidWeb> Hello
[08:09] <ribbel> ist
[08:09] <AcidWeb> Anybody here used kickstart with 13.10 desktop installation?
[08:09] <bekks> AcidWeb: what would happen if someone does?
[08:10] <AcidWeb> Well first question would be - if it work?
[08:10] <bekks> AcidWeb: Can you start with a support question please? :)
[08:12] <dell_> webcam not working ?
[08:12] <bekks> dell_: Can you form a full question please? :)
[08:12] <dell_> my webcam not working now
[08:13] <dell_> how to fix this
[08:13] <dell_> its working with mint
[08:13] <AcidWeb> OK. Lets me restate the question. Extractly what kernel parameters are needed to start UEFI 13.10 desktop installation with kickstarter file hosted over lan.
[08:13] <bazhang> !webcam | dell_
[08:13] <brothersome> dell_: Does it work with gucview?
[08:19] <IceD^> hey
[08:20] <IceD^> how to remove top panel from second display? I'm using it for full screen emacs only anyway so it's waste of precious pixels anyway for me
[08:22] <AcidWeb> well apparently kickstarter installation work only with ubuntu server
[08:23] <bekks> AcidWeb: you can easily install ubuntu-desktop as postinstall action.
[08:28] <AcidWeb> bekks: and that one package will magically transform server instalation in one that is _identical_ to desktop one?
[08:29] <bekks> AcidWeb: the server is just ubuntu without a desktop.
[08:30] <IceD^> omfg, it's impossible
[08:37] <Adrenaline28> hey everyone
[08:37] <Adrenaline28> I am a super noobie
[08:37] <Adrenaline28> its rediculous how much of a noobie I am
[08:37] <Adrenaline28> okay then...im off to go configure some stuff I have no Idea what that even means
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Adrenaline28 no one is born with OS knowledge.  Ask you ubuntu question.
[08:37] <Adrenaline28> lol
[08:38] <Adrenaline28> well thanks man...that is encouraging
[08:38] <bazhang> !manual | Adrenaline28 have a read first
[08:38] <Adrenaline28> okay thank you for that
[08:39] <mishravikas> hey, am facing problem in connecting to a wifi network in ubuntu can anyone please help me?
[08:40] <bazhang> mishravikas, what does sudo dhclient wlan0    return  (or whatever the name of the nic)
[08:42] <mishravikas> bazhang: its not showing anything just cursor is blinking
[08:43] <bazhang> mishravikas, does ifconfig -a  show eth0 lo and the wireless device
[08:44] <mishravikas> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/hcXeATDB here's the output
[08:44] <bazhang> mishravikas, does it show or not
[08:45] <mishravikas> bazhang: it shows eth0 and lo and wlan0
[08:45] <bazhang> mishravikas, is the wlan usb or pci, and which chipset
[08:47] <mishravikas> bazhang: the problem is that when I click on some network after it shows up in available networks it asks for password and after entering password it takes some time and then shows disconnected
[08:47] <mishravikas> bazhang: and sometimes it gets connected
[08:48] <mishravikas> bazhang: its pci
[08:48] <bazhang> mishravikas, sounds like an issue with signal strength then
[08:48] <mishravikas> bazhang: signal is max the router is kept in the same room and my phone connects easily
[08:51] <aaas> anyone using the lastest nomachine on ubuntu 13.10
[08:55] <Semor> what does 'kill -0 ' command do ?
[09:07] <mband> Hi, how can I query a running 'shutdown' to obtain information such as when it's going to halt/reboot the machine?
[09:07] <AlecTaylor> hi
[09:08] <AlecTaylor> Logging on on the default tty blacks the screen; then brings me back to the login screen. Switching tty's, logging in and running "startx" works. How to fix?
[09:09]  * AlecTaylor is on Ubuntu 13.10 x64 on an Ubuntu laptop (Kudu Professional)
[09:12] <bekks> aaas: which nomachine version do you talk about?
[09:12] <aaas> bekks 4.1.3 i think (the newest)
[09:12] <bekks> aaas: Hmm, I'm sticking with 3.5.x, since 4.x doesnt do what I want :)
[09:13] <aaas> 4 does what i want but i cant get it working
[09:13] <bekks> aaas: so what happens?
[09:13] <aaas> cant staart a new desktop
[09:14] <aaas> it's probably something with my config or the fact that im running lubuntu and trying to run lxde
[09:24] <AlecTaylor> hi
[09:24] <AlecTaylor> I can't login from lightdm. How do I fix this? - http://askubuntu.com/q/442787
[09:24] <bristleback> hi
[09:25] <bristleback> what the best options for a yahoo messenger client that also supports webcam and voice?
[09:25] <bristleback> I'm using empathy but I'm not very happy with it
[09:27] <AlecTaylor> bristleback: pidgin maybe?
[09:28] <anon3745> quit
[09:31] <MagePsycho> I want a blog folder outside of www folder: but user should be able to access via: mysite.com/blog. one solution would be to create symlink inside www/ folder which links to outside folder, but how?
[09:35] <bristleback> AlecTaylor: I also have pidgin but I'm not happy with that either
[09:36] <flummy> hi, i am using Eagle CAD which has a fullscreen black workspace. since my update to 13.10, when there are very few things displayed, the screen is dimming, making them hard to see. i found no dconf/gconf backlight/dim settings which influence this. does anyone know what is happening there? :)
[09:38] <VictorBjelkholm> hello everyone! Something went wrong when I changed my password with passwd because now I can't mount my encrypted home folder. I'm trying to recover my passphrase so I can recover my files but no matter what password I give "ecrypt-unwrap-passphrase", I get the same error that the password isn't correct. Anyone encountered this before and have some hints?
[09:39] <bekks> someone please can take a look at my ntp.conf - I just cant get it to work so another local server can sync its time with my local ntp server? http://pastebin.com/M7VPsmWK
[09:39] <bekks> All I get is a "no server suitable for synchronization found" when running ntpdate <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:39] <yeats> VictorBjelkholm: have you tried changing your password back to what it was?
[09:39] <VictorBjelkholm> yeats: no, I haven't. Good suggestion, gonna try that
[09:40] <VictorBjelkholm> thanks!
[09:40] <fidel_> bekks: is your ntp service acceble in general? (firewall)
[09:40] <fidel_> *accessible*
[09:41] <yeats> VictorBjelkholm: that happened to me a while back, but I don't remember how I ended up fixing it - it was the end of /home directory encryption for me - now I use full-disk/lvm encryption
[09:42] <VictorBjelkholm> yeats: yeah, I won't be doing the home-encryption any more, gonna use a external usb drive in future
[09:42] <t-goossens> ubuntu logo ripoff at my univesrity? :p  http://screencloud.net/v/DxK6
[09:42] <cfhowlett> t-goossens definitely inspired by ubuntu ...
[09:42] <t-goossens> :)
[09:43] <flummy> unless the networking circle logo predates the ubuntu logo
[09:43] <MagePsycho> when i do ls -al in the server gives me =>  reports -> ../reports/, how can i add symlink or whatever for blog: blog -> ../blog/
[09:44] <maedox> MagePsycho: with ln -s ../blog blog
[09:44] <bekks> fidel_: ufw disable both on server and client - yes. :)
[09:45] <MagePsycho> maedox: blog should be file without extension inside www or it should be a empty folder ?
[09:46] <maedox> bekks: whatever you do, just don't allow world access to your ntpd.
[09:46] <maedox> MagePsycho: not sure what you mean. blog would be a symbolic link.   ln -s [src] [dest]
[09:46] <bekks> maedox: currently, no one can even sync with it :/
[09:46] <bekks> maedox: I'll restrict access to my local network once I can even sync.
[09:47] <maedox> bekks: good *insert image of crumpy cat* :P
[09:47] <maedox> bekks: I'm not too good with ntpd anyway, so sorry for the slightly off-topic.
[09:47] <MagePsycho> maedox: really works, tell me if thats a soft linking or hard linking
[09:47] <bekks> maedox: ;)
[09:48] <maedox> MagePsycho: symbolic/soft, that's the -s option. without options to ln you'd make a hard link.  "man ln" for info
[09:49] <VictorBjelkholm> Hello again people! I wrote about ecrypt problems like 10 minutes ago. I've tried to change back to my old password but still complains about the password being wrong... Does this mean that I have a corrupted home folder now?
[09:49] <MagePsycho> maedox: thanks
[09:49] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: what exactly is it you did?
[09:49] <maedox> VictorBjelkholm: If you don't have the encryption key you're screwed I guess. :-/  Are you sure you're unwrapping the key with the correct password?
[09:50] <flummy> root@hq:~# find . -name "*ecrypt-unwrap-pass*" 2>/dev/null
[09:50] <flummy> root@hq:~#
[09:51] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: what is this "ecrypt-unwrap-passphrase" you mentioned?
[09:51] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: I changed my users password and now I cannot mount the homefolder. I'm trying to recover the passphrase from the wrapped-passphrase because I didn't write it down. Problem is that ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase don't accept my passwords
[09:51] <flummy> root@hq:~# find . -name "*ecryptfs-unwrap-pass*" 2>/dev/null
[09:51] <flummy> root@hq:~#
[09:51] <VictorBjelkholm> maedox: it's the passphrase I'm trying to recover with my login password
[09:52] <VictorBjelkholm> it's not a file, it's a utility flummy
[09:52] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: and every utility is a programm, right?
[09:52] <VictorBjelkholm> comes with Ubuntu
[09:52] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: and every program is stored in a file, right?
[09:52] <VictorBjelkholm> absolutely, you're right
[09:52] <flummy> an old backup does contain it
[09:52] <flummy> and a manpage
[09:52] <VictorBjelkholm> it's in the default Ubuntu installation so you should have it
[09:53] <flummy> i only see it in old backups
[09:53] <flummy> root@hq:/#  apt-cache search ecryptfs
[09:53] <flummy> ecryptfs-utils - ecryptfs cryptographic filesystem (utilities)
[09:54] <VictorBjelkholm> right. But the issue isn't that I cannot find the program... The problem is that it doesn't accept my login password...
[09:54] <flummy> i know
[09:54] <flummy> but i need the programm to look at it's manpage :)
[09:54] <VictorBjelkholm> ah, of course. Sorry!
[09:54] <VictorBjelkholm> it's very short. And the manpages are online as well ;)
[09:55] <esperegu> howto prevent update-initramfs to run ?
[09:55] <flummy>        ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase is a utility to  unwrap  an  eCryptfs  mount
[09:55] <flummy>        passphrase  from  file, using a specified wrapping passphrase, and dis-
[09:55] <flummy>        play the decrypted result on standard out.
[09:55] <flummy> esperegu: just dont install or remove packages which need the initramfs to be updated?
[09:55] <lleweldynlinux> hello
[09:55] <Anuska> Anyone know: kernel headers for version 3.13.0-21-generic were not found .... in virtualbox
[09:56] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: what are the contents of your file? (only paste them if they are not sensitive)
[09:56] <esperegu> flummy: I want to install those but not to get it updated. howto do that?
[09:56] <lleweldynlinux> lol dude same happen to me
[09:56] <incognito_> I did an update and my apache server broke
[09:56] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: of the wrapped-passphrase file?
[09:56] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: currently it is wrapped, but yes
[09:57] <incognito_> I'm getting this error /syntax error on line 140 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[09:57] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: it's just a bunch of ascii characters
[09:57] <lleweldynlinux> hello i just switched my dad over to linux any good email like outllok clients for linux
[09:58] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: and did you try printf "%s" "victorspassword" | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase passwordfile
[09:58] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: haven't tried that
[09:58] <incognito_> Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/mpm_itk.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_mpm_itk.so into server:
[09:58] <flummy> maybe its faster to try several passwords that way
[09:58] <Anuska> kernel headers for version 3.13.0-21-generic were not found. If you installed them in a on-default path you can specify the path below
[09:59] <Anuska> i select that but... not resut
[09:59] <Anuska> result
[09:59] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: I'm 100% sure the password is right
[09:59] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: and the printf... stanza does not display the unwrapped mount passphrase from the file on stdout?
[10:00] <flummy> hw@hq:~$ printf "%s" meep | ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase passwordfile
[10:00] <flummy> Passphrase:
[10:00] <flummy> Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]
[10:00] <flummy> Info: Check the system log for more information from libecryptfs
[10:00] <flummy> Apr  3 12:00:12 hq ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase: Error attempting to read encrypted passphrase from file [passwordfile]; size = [0]
[10:00] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: I haven't tried the printf you've just wrote but ecrypt-unwrap-passphrase complains about wrong password when I'm sure it's right
[10:00] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: try the printf method
[10:01] <flummy> then you'll see the ecrypts-unwrap-passphrase error
[10:01] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: I will! I don't have access to a second computer yet and hence need to restart the machine to enter it...
[10:01] <flummy> oh, yes. nice. :P
[10:02] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: take a look at the timestamp of the passphrasefile
[10:02] <flummy> that could be unexpected, too
[10:06] <bproject> hello to all
[10:06] <bproject> :)
[10:06] <slygeo> hello
[10:06] <lleweldynlinux> wassup
[10:06] <bproject> :)
[10:06] <bproject> i have some idea for ubuntu project
[10:06] <bproject> :)
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !contribute|bproject
[10:06] <bproject> this is the right place?
[10:07] <slygeo> first time to use irc since 10 years
[10:07] <cfhowlett> slygeo ask your ubuntu question
[10:07] <VictorBjelkholm> flummy: all right, the timestamp of when it's created right?
[10:07] <slygeo> i don't have a question
[10:08] <flummy> VictorBjelkholm: yeah, just to be sure nothing wonderful happened to the file
[10:08] <slygeo> is this channel for helping ubuntu users?
[10:08] <DJones> slygeo: Yes it is
[10:08] <fidel_> slygeo: see topic
[10:08] <cfhowlett> !topic > slygeo yes
[10:09] <slygeo> ok sorry
[10:09] <slygeo> will anybody ubuntu one?
[10:09] <slygeo> miss*
[10:10] <cfhowlett> slygeo your question makes no sense.  ubuntuone is not going away
[10:10] <DJones> cfhowlett: Actually it is, its been discontinued
[10:10] <bazhang> cfhowlett, yea, it is
[10:10] <DJones> !ubuntuone
[10:10] <llutz_> cfhowlett: sure it is, ends end of juli
[10:10] <lleweldynlinux> i used to use ubuntu one it was very nice but the moment i saw they said it will be no longer i went and installed owncloud
[10:10] <slygeo> june 2014
[10:10] <DJones> cfhowlett: Only announced yesterday though
[10:11] <bazhang> slygeo, thats hard to answer
[10:11]  * cfhowlett le wrong. Thanks for updating me.  moving files to alternate cloud now ...
[10:11] <slygeo> here you go http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MjE
[10:12] <bazhang> slygeo, as such, you should probably ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic , as it's going away and not directly a support question
[10:16] <victorbjelkholm> remind me to never use ecryptfs ever again
[10:16] <victorbjelkholm> flummy: still no progress, same problem...  As my GPU is not detected by the installer and Crashes. I can solve these issues if i could install the Damn OS.
[10:17] <victorbjelkholm> yeah, always failing no matter what password I use flummy
[10:18] <DJones> narcarsiss: You could try using the minimal install cd which uses a text based installer rather than the graphical one
[10:18] <DJones> !minimal | narcarsiss
[10:18] <flummy> hw@hq:~$ ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase passwordfile
[10:18] <flummy> victorbjelkholm: if you start it this way, it is prompting for a passphrase
[10:18] <flummy> try to hit just return, the empty passphrase
[10:19] <victorbjelkholm> flummy: already tried without any passphrase, still failing
[10:19] <flummy> :(
[10:19] <flummy> did you try password and passphrase as passphrases
[10:19] <narcarsiss> DJones: ok cheers. but can one not edit the initial boot press "e" to drop into a text based install?
[10:19] <flummy> and ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[10:19] <flummy> :/
[10:19] <flummy> and passwd
[10:19] <demonoid_com> can i run container  in ubuntu without lxc?
[10:20] <victorbjelkholm> flummy: as the login password? No, I haven't
[10:20] <demonoid_com> need a help :)
[10:21] <DJones> narcarsiss: I'm not sure about that, I always used to use the alternate cd for cases like that, but I've not needed it for quite a while
[10:21] <hxm> hello, i install gnome-session-fallback because i have a low machine, it works fine but everytime i open session i see an error /usr/sbin/unity-greeter had an intern error, how to disable that?
[10:21] <flummy> victorbjelkholm: do the contents of your passphrase file look like 2290da56f373d4807dac2bf0da52d09e
[10:21] <DJones> narcarsiss: And thats been discontinued now
[10:21] <victorbjelkholm> flummy: no, it's weirder characters
[10:21] <flummy> mkay
[10:22] <narcarsiss> DJones, First world problems with (2014) Laptops XD. Thank you and have a Great Evening.
[10:22] <maedox> victorbjelkholm: what does the file utility say about the passphrase file? Perhaps it got compressed by some other means?
[10:22] <narcarsiss> exit
[10:23] <DJones> narcarsiss: Heh, yeah, I thought I'd have an issue with mine having hybred graphics, but used 14.04 beta & it worked perfectly
[10:23] <victorbjelkholm> maedox: how do I find out what it says?
[10:24] <lng> Hi! How to upgrade to 13.10?
[10:24] <maedox> victorbjelkholm: just execute file [filename]
[10:24] <victorbjelkholm> I see
[10:24] <victorbjelkholm> two minutes!
[10:24] <maedox> I guess it should be ASCII text or something like that
[10:24] <cfhowlett> lng what is the output of cat /etc/issue/
[10:24] <flummy> hw@hq:~$ printf "%s\n%s" "wrapmeplease" "password" | ecryptfs-wrap-passphrase passphrasefile
[10:25] <flummy> hw@hq:~$ cat passphrasefile
[10:25] <flummy> 633937dbcf1fef34���׽G�d�mS.�hw@hq:~$
[10:25] <flummy> victorbjelkholm: do the contents of your passphrasefile look like mine?
[10:26] <flummy> maedox: file has no magic cookie for that kind of file, it just recognizes "data"
[10:28] <maedox> flummy: ok, so it should be "data". but if it's not "data" then we know something happened to it at least.
[10:28] <flummy> maedox: it appears it contains a authentication token composed of a signature and the unwrapped "passphrase"
[10:29] <flummy> an
[10:29] <lng> cfhowlett: Ubuntu 12.04.4
[10:29] <army> hey guys, any idea how i can get the wifi icon in the awesome wm?
[10:29] <maedox> flummy: ok, so perhaps there's a pattern to it that can be verified?
[10:29] <army> ( a bit hard to find the info through google with such great generic names :))
[10:30] <flummy> hw@hq:~$ cat passphrasefile |hexdump -C
[10:30] <flummy> 00000000  36 33 33 39 33 37 64 62  63 66 31 66 65 66 33 34  |633937dbcf1fef34|
[10:30] <flummy> 00000010  8a ef e6 9d 14 05 d7 bd  47 ae 64 b7 6d 53 2e b8  |........G.d.mS..|
[10:30] <flummy> 00000020
[10:30] <victorbjelkholm_> the file utility said it was data maedox
[10:30] <flummy> victorbjelkholm_: yeah
[10:30] <victorbjelkholm_> and no of the passwords you recommended worked flummy
[10:30] <cfhowlett> lng 2 options: clean install 13.10 (technically not upgrade") or upgrade 12.04.4 > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 via EOL
[10:30] <flummy> file does not recognize that kind of file
[10:30] <cfhowlett> !EOL
[10:30] <flummy> victorbjelkholm_: does it look like my passphrasefile
[10:30] <victorbjelkholm_> I'll guess I have to do a clean install....
[10:30] <flummy> 12:23 < flummy> hw@hq:~$ cat passphrasefile
[10:30] <lng> cfhowlett: EOL?
[10:30] <flummy> 12:23 < flummy> 633937dbcf1fef34���׽G�d�mS.�hw@hq:~$
[10:30] <victorbjelkholm_> yeah!
[10:31] <victorbjelkholm_> which I understand as it's still encrypted, right?
[10:31] <flummy> so you probably need to try more passwords :P
[10:31] <victorbjelkholm_> haha
[10:31] <victorbjelkholm_> bruteforce...
[10:31] <flummy> victorbjelkholm_: backup the encrypted stuff including the passphrasefile
[10:31] <cfhowlett> lng 12.10 and 13.04 are end of life
[10:31] <flummy> continue your work
[10:31] <flummy> and set up a password cracker when there is time
[10:31] <flummy> :P
[10:32] <victorbjelkholm_> I can't continue my work without a functional linux installation! :(
[10:32] <tomodachi> join #libpurple
[10:32] <flummy> setup jack the ripper then :P
[10:32] <victorbjelkholm_> fresh install it is, fuck this...
[10:32] <victorbjelkholm_> thanks for all the help though flummy and maedox !
[10:32] <fugutive221> Hi!
[10:33] <flummy> victorbjelkholm_: what did you do at the exact time of the last modification timestamp of the file?
[10:33] <lng> cfhowlett: looks like it is going to take a long time to upgrade
[10:33] <fugutive221> I want to build distcc from source according to this tutorial... http://jeremy-nicola.info/portfolio-item/cross-compilation-distributed-compilation-for-the-raspberry-pi/
[10:33] <victorbjelkholm_> flummy: installed the OS
[10:33] <fugutive221> But I get the following error
[10:33] <cfhowlett> lng OR you could torrent the 13.10 ISO and clean install
[10:33] <fugutive221> cc1: all warnings being treated as errors
[10:33] <fugutive221> make: *** [lzo/minilzo.o] Fout 1
[10:33] <maedox> victorbjelkholm_: isn't it just your home dir that's encrypted? no need to reinstall to fix that.
[10:33] <victorbjelkholm_> so it didn't modified it when I changed the password
[10:33] <flummy> victorbjelkholm_: maybe there was an english keyboard layout active at the time
[10:33] <flummy> and your password contains characters which are mapped to different keys
[10:33] <lng> cfhowlett: or wait for the next release
[10:33] <flummy> on different keyboard layouts
[10:33] <victorbjelkholm_> maedox: true, just creating a new user
[10:34] <victorbjelkholm_> flummy: yeah! It could be that...
[10:34] <lng> cfhowlett: I see, thanks
[10:34] <cfhowlett> lng true!  12.04 > 14.04 will directly upgrade!
[10:34] <victorbjelkholm_> changing between spanish, american and swedish frequently
[10:34] <lng> great
[10:34] <flummy> ok
[10:34] <flummy> then you have a lots of new chances
[10:34] <flummy> :P
[10:34] <victorbjelkholm_> yay! ....
[10:34] <victorbjelkholm_> thanks!
[10:34] <flummy> ^^
[10:34] <victorbjelkholm_> will try :)
[10:34] <flummy> and
[10:35] <flummy> when you use crypto next time
[10:35] <flummy> divide the key in three parts
[10:35] <flummy> and give them to friends in sealed envelopes :)
[10:36] <fugutive221> So I tried to download it from svn and then ./autogen.sh and after that ./configure and make but it gave errors at make
[10:37] <victorbjelkholm_> flummy: haha, I won't be doing any encryption in the near future! Only a usb stick with the stuff I actually want encrypted
[10:38] <sven__> hey!
[10:39] <sven__> --help
[10:39] <flummy> victorbjelkholm_: it's not entirely your fault, the installation routines don't mention the necessary precautions for using crypto
[10:39] <demonoid_com>  sven__ :???
[10:40] <flummy> this still has to evolve
[10:40] <ShawnRisk> Hi!
[10:44] <ShawnRisk> I only have the touchpad on my laptop working to click on the bottom left and bottom right corners for left and right click.  How do I make this work with whole left and right side.  I used this to change my settings: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388164&p=8816327#post8816327
[10:45] <fugutive221> So could anybody help me, please :) ?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !patience|fugutive221
[10:46] <fugutive221> ok thanks ubottu :)
[10:47] <dv_> anybody else having problems with USB-serial connections in ubuntu?
[10:47] <flummy> dv_: no, using FTDI und ACM all the time
[10:47] <dv_> it seems there is a bug in the kernel in ubuntu versions since 12.10
[10:47] <flummy> on 13.10
[10:47] <dv_> the ttyUSB* devices fail sometimes
[10:47] <flummy> and all previous versions
[10:47] <flummy> not for me
[10:47] <ikonia> dv_: never had a problem at all
[10:47] <dv_> and reconnecting the usb cable afterwards shows USB errors in dmesg
[10:47] <ikonia> and I don't believe there is a kernal bug, as I'm using them on other distros too
[10:48] <ikonia> kernel too
[10:48] <victorbjelkholm> ls
[10:48] <flummy> i just have problems creating udev rules to create symlinks with fixed names according to FTDI serial numbers
[10:48] <dv_> this same hardware works fine with other distros
[10:48] <dv_> so it is something ubuntu specific
[10:48] <ikonia> dv_: not always
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !bug|dv_
[10:48] <flummy> cfhowlett: how does that relate to the current discussion?
[10:49] <ikonia> because he's being show the bug database and how to log a bug
[10:49] <cfhowlett> flummy he's claiming a bug so I assume he wants to properly report
[10:49] <ikonia> seems pretty relevant
[10:49] <flummy> he is not claiming anything
[10:49] <ikonia> "I think there is a bug in the ubuntu kernel"
[10:49] <ikonia> seems like a bug claim to me
[10:49] <flummy> not to me
[10:49] <dv_> no
[10:49] <cfhowlett> flummy perhaps best to let him speak for himself?
[10:49] <dv_> I am not sure if this is a bug or something else going on here
[10:49] <flummy> cfhowlett: it seems he just said "no"
[10:50] <ikonia> flummy: he also said there is a bug - so lets allow him to explain
[10:50] <dv_> no, I said I think there is a bug
[10:50] <flummy> okay :)
[10:50]  * cfhowlett headbangs his keyboard
[10:50] <flummy> well i happen to have plenty of experience with all kinds of serial to usb connectors
[10:51] <dv_> I am not sure where though. I suspected the kernel, but since flummy does not see the same behavior, then it is somewhere else
[10:51] <tomodachi> &
[10:51] <flummy> s/connectors/converters/
[10:51] <dv_> it is really weird. at some point the device stops responding, I exit minicom (sometimes minicom hangs upon exiting), I try to reconnect the cable, and then I see in dmesg that the device cannot be enumerated
[10:51] <dv_> only a reset fixes this
[10:52] <dv_> and this is a pl2303 converter , so it should be well supported
[10:52] <flummy> dv_: try a (different) powered usb hub?
[10:52] <flummy> dv_: that usually happens when you exceed the power allowance
[10:52] <dv_> this works sometimes, but not always. and most of the time it is only a temporary fix
[10:52] <flummy> e.g. by causing a temporary short
[10:53] <dv_> hmm okay I will try a third hub
[10:53] <flummy> on the supply rails
[10:53] <Touhou11> dv_: Have you tested with the most recent vanilla kernel?
[10:53] <flummy> Touhou11: usb 2 serial converters work with all kernels i have ever seen
[10:53] <flummy> (since they have usb support)
[10:54] <Touhou11> flummy: Not all hardware is alike, could be poorly implementing the specification
[10:54] <flummy> Touhou11: there are only a few protocol converters on the market
[10:54] <newhoa> I'm trying to do video capture with the Hauppauge HVR-1600. I can capture the on-card encoded mpeg stream, but can't seem to capture the RAW stream. dmesg lists video0 as mpeg, video32 as YUV and video24 as PCM audio.
[10:54] <dv_> ok, with another hub I get a device back, but I see no uart traffic
[10:54] <dv_> I'll try again after a reset
[10:55] <ShawnRisk> any help with my question?
[10:55] <newhoa> Is there something I'm missing? Shoudn't I just be able to {cat /dev/video32 > whatever} to capture the YUV stream?
[10:57] <dv_> flummy: but usb-uart converters shouldnt require much current, should they?
[10:57] <flummy> dv_: not at all, but users frequently cause shorts when un/plugging them
[10:57] <fugutive221> If I get from svn this : svn checkout http://distcc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ distcc-read-only ; Does this get the distcc client or server or both?
[10:58] <flummy> dv_: i sometimes draw to much current when i supply power to a board via the usb2serial converter
[10:58] <dv_> ok maybe this is what happened here and now that subsystem is in an undefined state
[10:59] <flummy> mhm
[10:59] <flummy> unplug and wait 60+s
[10:59] <flummy> ?
[11:01] <flummy> dv_: i guess you did look at the kernel log and not see anything out of the usual?
[11:01] <dv_> correct
[11:01] <flummy> just like l2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[11:02] <dv_> well, aside from the USB enumeration problems I mentioned
[11:02] <flummy> how much did you stress your usb enumerator since the last reboot? :P
[11:04] <dv_> hey, I unplugged only two times :)
[11:04] <flummy> that does not count as much stress
[11:12] <olalonde> what window system does ubuntu use?
[11:12] <olalonde> wayland right?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> olalonde desktop environment = unity
[11:13] <olalonde> yes, I meant more like "display server"
[11:15] <Touhou11> X11
[11:15] <czj> the user name is “caozhijie” but it is displayed "caozhiji+" in $ps aux
[11:15] <Guest21864> hi guys, anyone knows a good channel to get help on ubuntu touch for mobile ?
[11:15] <DJones> Guest21864: #ubuntu-touch
[11:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch
[11:15] <DJones> !touch | Guest21864
[11:16] <czj>  the user name is “caozhijie” but it is displayed "caozhiji+" in $ps aux ,why?
[11:16] <Guest21864> thanks
[11:17] <Touhou11> olalonde: Canonical are developing an alternative to wayland, called "mir"
[11:17] <olalonde> haha, that's confusing
[11:18] <cfhowlett> olalonde but it won't be available until next year
[11:20] <rajw93> is it safe to store gmail credentials of an important account with empathy or pidgin ?
[11:20] <rajw93> will my credentials be safe with empathy ?
[11:21] <Touhou11> Pidgin stores them in plaintext
[11:21] <olalonde> X11/Wayland/Mir... Gnome/Unity/Compiz...  GTK+/Qt/...
[11:21] <rajw93> could empathy developers or anyone else misuse my credentials ?
[11:21] <Touhou11> Read: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords it has a good explanation
[11:21] <Touhou11> rajw93: Only if you give them local access to your computer
[11:22] <olalonde> rajw93: Ubuntu software from the official repository is usually peer reviewed but it's not impossible to introduce a subtle backdoor :P
[11:22] <rajw93> Touhou11: thanks & what about emapthy..? I use it to just connnect to gmail chat.. not for messages
[11:22] <Touhou11> rajw93: Not sure, it may have keyring integration
[11:22] <bekks> I dont get that. When removing "restrict <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS> notrust" from ntp.conf, clients are able to sync with my local ntp server. This is the opposite of what the config says. Any clues on that?
[11:28] <MagePsycho> hello guys.. i don't have any cpanel details and only have root ssh access, so is there a way to check where sub-domain: test.mysite.com points to?
[11:28] <MagePsycho> they have registered the sub-domain and not sure where it's ponting
[11:28] <newhoa> Can anyone name me a few good capture cards - I'm looking for something to capture S-Video in YUV/RAW with audio.
[11:34] <Infitialis> hello, I was just wondering if it was possible to have a bridge without IP Address
[11:36] <Touhou11> MagePsycho: Use the "host" command to perform a DNS lookup
[11:42] <fugutive221> How to restart a synaptics touchpad ?
[11:44] <MagePsycho> Touhou11: it shows sub domain xxx has address xx.yy.xx..
[11:44] <MagePsycho> Touhou11: it's not showing the the directory path where it points to
[11:45] <Touhou11> MagePsycho: Oh, the directory path, thought you wanted the IP address - you need to check the apache config files, it'll be defined in the virtual host entries
[11:45] <ph8> hey all
[11:46] <Touhou11> MagePsycho: Where apache config files sit depends on the Linux distribution - on Red hat they're in /etc/httpd/conf.d
[11:46] <MagePsycho> we are using nginx
[11:46] <ph8> has anyone got a mac mini and ubuntu dual boot working? I can't install reFit at the moment and i'm worried it's because my mac partition is encrypted, any pointers? I really want some ubuntu goodness
[11:46] <tomodachi> ph8: i hav run macmini with dual boot
[11:46] <Touhou11> MagePsycho: Well, in your nginx config files then, you'll need to read the manual
[11:46] <tomodachi> is the efi partition visible outside of your encryption?
[11:47] <jellow> .msg nickserv identify blueberg1
[11:48] <jellow> oh .. cumpit.
[11:48] <wrongplace> is there any way to open all links of any given page at once and downloading eacht of the links contents? 80 pictures
[11:48] <wrongplace> instead of clicking on each picture?
[11:49] <repinski> i installed ubuntu on an hp 255 laptop, dual booting windows 8, the wifi isn't working in ubuntu. is there an easy one step way to find and install the driver?
[11:49] <Touhou11> wrongplace: Downloadthemall firefox extension can do that
[11:50] <flummy> wrongplace: from a shell, you can use wget. see man wget
[11:50] <whiskers75> help!
[11:51] <wrongplace> flummy, but that will only download the small pictures listed, not the big pictures in the link
[11:51] <psbrandt> Can anyone tell me if this is possible: I want to use sshfs to mount a remote folder, but I want the files I create/edit on the client to have nobody:nogroup owndership on the server.
[11:51] <ShawnRisk> back
[11:51] <flummy> wrongplace: you can tell it to follow 1 level of links
[11:52] <whiskers75> I can't boot Ubuntu
[11:52] <ShawnRisk> whoever I was talking to, please pm me again, I lost your nickname
[11:52] <whiskers75> I can boot in recovery mode
[11:53] <MagePsycho> Touhou11: is there a way to blog.mysite.com text globally
[11:53] <repinski> is there a program for ubuntu to turn an email archive into html pages (threaded)
[11:54] <flummy> repinski: did you try to google?
[11:54] <repinski> where each thread would have its own page, and there would be an index of all threads
[11:55] <repinski> flummy: that could be the answer for every, single, question here
[11:55] <flummy> repinski: no, because many questions here don't have obvious page 1 google hit answers
[11:55] <flummy> yours does
[11:56] <repinski> flummy: go and google it for me, maybe you'll have better luck than i did
[11:56] <flummy> repinski: i don't think i feel like it
[11:56] <Touhou11> MagePsycho: Grep "search text" /file/path -r -l
[11:56] <Ben64> !behelpful | flummy
[11:58] <Cadero> Doesn't ubuntu server come with a preconfigured ntp client?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> Cadero ask the #ubunter-server channel
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !server|Cadero
[11:58] <Cadero> cfhowlett: ah, thanks!
[12:01] <ra123445555> hi all
[12:01] <srikrishna> hi
[12:01] <srikrishna> all
[12:02] <wrongplace> flummy, how do i do what you suggested?
[12:02] <ra123445555> I have a doubt where my wlan ip gets saved
[12:03] <flummy> wrongplace: who are you / what did i suggest?
[12:04] <ihre> ra123445555: if its a dhcp address, check /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient*
[12:04] <ra123445555> no its a static ip
[12:04] <ra123445555> ihre: no its a static ip
[12:05] <ihre> ra123445555: then you might want to check /etc/network/interfaces
[12:06] <ra123445555> ihre : yes I have checked if i give ifconfig wlan0 up ipaddress in command line it is not saved in interfaces file
[12:07] <Crost> Test123
[12:08] <Crost> hi
[12:10] <ihre> ra123445555: iirc, thats because ifconfig commmands arent persistent; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1275766
[12:14] <flummy> something is dimming down my monitor screen, when there is mostly black on display
[12:14] <flummy> e.g. a login: prompt on tty1 is displayed with ~ 5% brightness
[12:15] <flummy> does anyone know this?
[12:15] <flummy> the more i type on tty1, the more brightness i get
[12:15] <flummy> booting with pcie_aspm=force or acpi_backlight=vendor did not help
[12:16] <flummy> i tried nvidia-334 from xorg-edgers-ppa
[12:17] <greek> Hi fellas, I'm about to install Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS. I plan on setting up RAID (as per the detailed instructions). Right at the beginning of my boot sequence, it asks me whether I want to install Ubuntu server or "Install in expert mode". Is the partitioning / RAID configuration only available in expert mode? Thanks
[12:19] <flummy> greek: just as a precaution, RAID has very limited uses, see zdnet/arstechnica/tomshardware/stackoverflow articles "why raid is (usually) a terrible idea"
[12:21] <flyingpeacock> hello, does anyone have experience with the WNA3100 network adapter?
[12:22] <daftykins> flyingpeacock: it tends to be better to move onto the second question
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !details|flyingpeacock literal answer to your query: "yes"
[12:24] <flyingpeacock> ubottu: I'm sure, however nobody can help unless they've been through the driver crap associated with this particular driver. I just came from linux mint help, and went through the motions already
[12:24] <who_me> hi. has anyone seen a guide on how to use btrfs on ubuntu in such a way that they can boot a known good copy of the OS in case an update borks the system? (I'm aware of the ubuntu wiki page about btrfs, but it does not really cover such a use case)
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !mint
[12:25] <juneyboi> I have been using my machine for days on end on ubuntu 12.04 then I unplugged it and replugged it back into ethernet and it wont connect now
[12:25] <juneyboi> if anyone wants to help me with a connection issue I would be very grateful
[12:25] <daftykins> flyingpeacock: alright well as shown above we don't help anyone running Mint unfortunately
[12:25] <flyingpeacock> ubottu: yes, I know, but most of the help I've received comes from Ubuntu forums, so please bear with me
[12:25] <trusty> hi guys does anybody know how to fix the pixelated icons
[12:26] <cfhowlett> flyingpeacock "we don't support" ... sorry
[12:26] <daftykins> juneyboi: were you using a static IP or fully auto?
[12:26] <flyingpeacock> daftykins: thanks for your candid responses
[12:26] <juneyboi> I dunno I am in japan
[12:26] <juneyboi> they use PPPoE here
[12:26] <Aaruni> what would be a good place to ask for support for a multi-boot system ?
[12:26] <juneyboi> it was working find till I knocked the cable a bit
[12:26] <juneyboi> so I changed cables
[12:27] <flummy> cfhowlett: did you actually help anyone today?
[12:27] <flummy> i did.
[12:27] <daftykins> juneyboi: oh right, so it's not actually normal networking, it's going straight into a 'modem' or other kind of ISP device 0o
[12:27] <flummy> two times.
[12:27] <who_me> juneyboi, do you plug the internet cable directly into your machine and then network manager does the PPPoE auth ?
[12:27] <juneyboi> yeah I was connection via dsl
[12:27] <juneyboi> like in the GUI
[12:27] <trusty> help
[12:28] <trusty> hi guys does anybody know how to fix the pixelated icons
[12:28] <daftykins> flummy: the channel has rules, if you have an issue with those, you are welcome to offer help elsewhere. however, do not question policy.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> trusty what is the output of cat /etc/issue/
[12:28] <juneyboi> I tried to reconnect the PPPoe through the terminal command routine but now it says that this system version is incompatible
[12:28] <flummy> daftykins: i don't?
[12:28] <rajw93> previsouly when I mounted disks paritions on my ubuntu, it did not asked for root password, but now it has been asking for root password, also mounting windows partition has been failing recently,, any ideas what this may be cuased due to  ?
[12:29] <juneyboi> the system network services are not compatible with this version
[12:29] <ra123445555> ihre: my wifi is gets connected only first time if inbetween connection loss then it keeps checking
[12:30] <juneyboi> sucks
[12:30] <daftykins> rajw93: did you edit /etc/fstab to mount these disks?
[12:30] <who_me> juneyboi, maybe they're not using PPPoE anymore? did you ask the sysadmin if they made any changes ?
[12:31] <rajw93> daftykins: I did not made any edits to  /etc/fstab recently or I think ever..
[12:31] <ra123445555> how to reconnect with my secured wifi through command line
[12:31] <trusty> Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch) \n \l
[12:31] <juneyboi> well my mac here is still connected fine
[12:31] <juneyboi> via PPPoe
[12:31] <cfhowlett> trusty support for trusty = #ubuntu+1
[12:32] <trusty> oh ok
[12:32] <juneyboi> I think I messed up the settings when I tried to reconfigure the PPPoe thing via terminal
[12:32] <daftykins> rajw93: ok so you're relying on automatic mounts? if you always mount them then there's no reason to leave it automatic?
[12:32] <juneyboi> its hard to chat on this irc the text is soo small
[12:33] <rajw93> daftykins: what should I do then.. I always want to mount them..those are just disk paritions of my computer
[12:33] <ra123445555> can anyone help me solve the issue
[12:33] <daftykins> rajw93: partitions can be setup to mount in /etc/fstab , the option 'user' can be entered too so that it allows the user to access them without entering a password
[12:33] <ra123445555> with my wifi connectivity
[12:34] <daftykins> ra123445555: you're better off looking up a WPA supplicant guide
[12:35] <juneyboi> @who_me
[12:35] <rajw93> daftykins, ok thanks but why has this been asking for password all of sudden, previsouly it did not ask for root password when i mounted them,,, I am asking this if this might be anything related to my windows8 partition not being ablt to amount since that very point of time\
[12:35] <ra123445555> daftykins: Actually first time after switching on it works but after a disconnecting it is not detecting the wifi ap
[12:35] <juneyboi> if you have a moment can you message me
[12:35] <juneyboi> if not I completely understand
[12:36] <daftykins> ra123445555: oh, so nothing to do with command line connecting at all. nm then i don't know
[12:36] <daftykins> rajw93: i have no idea
[12:36] <who_me> juneyboi, did you connect your mac before connecting the linux machine ?
[12:36] <juneyboi> yeah the mac has always been connected
[12:37] <juneyboi> I built the machine from custom parts I bought in akihabara
[12:37] <daftykins> ... you can't connect both at once though? :P
[12:38] <who_me> juneyboi, then, it's proper to "hang-up" the connection before trying to connect another machine via pppoe. I do not know what the equivalent is for a mac... maybe "disconnect"
[12:38] <juneyboi> who_me I just did this "sudo service network-manager restart"
[12:39] <juneyboi> Im gonna try to create a new dsl connection
[12:39] <Mace268> Hello, I'm getting this error when trying to update software. "The upgrade needs a total of 59.1 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 9,317 k of disk space on '/boot'."
[12:39] <Mace268> how do i free space on /boot?
[12:39] <who_me> juneyboi, if the mac is connected, use the disconnect or equivalent before pulling out the cable from it
[12:40] <juneyboi> ah
[12:40] <daftykins> Mace268: delete some old kernels. can you pastebin "ls -l /boot" ?
[12:40] <juneyboi> so if I still have a mac connection active it will mess things up?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Mace268 delete old kernels
[12:40] <sarir> Mace268: you could remove old versions of the kernel that where left after an update
[12:40] <daftykins> there's an echo in here again
[12:40] <who_me> juneyboi, pppoe connection can act up if you just yank the cable from one machine and try to connect another one
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Mace268 http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[12:41] <juneyboi> no no its a separate cable
[12:41] <juneyboi> my router thing has 4 connections
[12:41] <Mace268> yeah there are lots of kernel versions there, i'll check that guide
[12:41] <Mace268> six kernels to be exact lol
[12:42] <who_me> juneyboi, does your router act as a bridge  or does it do the PPPoE auth itself
[12:42] <who_me> ?
[12:42] <sarir> ubuntu doesn't clean up well by default
[12:42] <daftykins> Mace268: remote all but the latest two
[12:42] <daftykins> *remove
[12:42] <Mace268> ok i'll do that, thanks for the help :)
[12:42] <who_me> juneyboi, also, you can't connect the linux machine while the other one is still connected
[12:43] <juneyboi> I can have multiple connections running from this same router I had it working fine before
[12:43] <juneyboi> I did this just now sudo service network-manager restart
[12:43] <juneyboi> perhaps I can reconnect now the way I did before
[12:43] <daftykins> so now you tell us it's a router - you don't need to do PPPoE auth from a connected computer if it's a router
[12:44] <daftykins> juneyboi: what IP does the mac you're on right now show? an internal LAN IP like 192.168.x.x or the same IP as your internet facing one such as whatismyip.com reports?
[12:44] <juneyboi> Im OK I will check
[12:45] <who_me> daftykins, the router may be configured as abridge device...
[12:45] <who_me>  a bridge*
[12:45] <juneyboi> Yes, Its a LAN type number
[12:46] <who_me> juneyboi, type the address here
[12:46] <juneyboi> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:46] <who_me> yeah
[12:47] <who_me> juneyboi, don't configure the DSL connection, go to Wired and set it up to automatically get IP and namserver info via dhcp
[12:47] <trusty> juneyboi: you are using static ip without a router
[12:48] <juneyboi> so do it via dhcp
[12:48] <juneyboi> ok I will try that
[12:48] <juneyboi> wired connection and etc
[12:48] <who_me> juneyboi, can't hurt to try
[12:50] <Mace268> ok i've removed the old linux-image-* but what about the linux-image-extra-* ?
[12:50] <juneyboi> it says automatic(dhcp)
[12:50] <who_me> juneyboi, does it get an ip ?
[12:50] <juneyboi> should I tick the "require IPv4 addressing"
[12:50] <juneyboi> ?
[12:50] <daftykins> Mace268: you can run an apt-get autoremove after that to clear some other items, but no reason to run anything else
[12:51] <who_me> juneyboi, nah
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Mace268 sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get purge
[12:51] <Mace268> thanks again guys :)
[12:52] <juneyboi> that didnt work
[12:52] <juneyboi> wired networks shows up as device not managed
[12:52] <juneyboi> when I tried that way and clicked save
[12:52] <juneyboi> nothing happend
[12:53] <who_me> juneyboi, hmm does your network card work ?
[12:53] <juneyboi> Its built into the mother board
[12:53] <juneyboi> should
[12:53] <juneyboi> was working before
[12:53] <juneyboi> how do I check, via terminal command
[12:54] <who_me> juneyboi,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[12:55] <juneyboi> ah I see
[12:59] <aezarfdfDFQFDf> a
[13:10] <juneyboi> stressful
[13:11] <Ub0ne> i messed around with menulibre, is there a way to reset it?
[13:12] <zubuntu> hi
[13:12] <daftykins> hi
[13:16] <juneyboi> if this gets bad enough I may just try to reinstall
[13:16] <juneyboi> when I restart the machine it says waiting for network configuration
[13:17] <daftykins> did you check /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:17] <daftykins> that should only refer to loopback
[13:20] <JuneyfailsatLinu> I think I want to try to restore all network settings to default
[13:20] <JuneyfailsatLinu> then restart the whole process
[13:20] <whiskers75> Hello, I have a problem: When starting my Ubuntu system, it gets to upstart but then reaches stopping startpar bridge (after cups) and just hangs there.
[13:20] <whiskers75> I can boot recovery.
[13:24] <who_me> JuneyfailsatLinu, before reinstalling you should check whether the connection work or not for the live session
[13:24] <whiskers75> How do I remove Elementary OS forcefully, without apt?
[13:24] <JuneyfailsatLinu> How do I do that?
[13:25] <whiskers75> Anyone?
[13:25] <ikonia> whiskers75: we don't support elementary OS
[13:25] <ikonia> use the elementary OS support channel
[13:25] <ikonia> (please)
[13:26] <whiskers75> ikonia: I installed the elementary desktop, and now I can't boot ubuntu. I did not install it with apt.
[13:27] <whiskers75> On boot, I get the e logo.
[13:27] <whiskers75> How do I restore my system? (I can boot recovery)
[13:28] <whiskers75> It looks like an upstart problem
[13:29] <ikonia> whiskers75: we don't support elementary OS, please use the elementary support channels
[13:29] <Hammerhead2011-S> Hey all, I just installed 4.3 of ISC dhcp server and hit the lease file bug. Anyone figured a way around it without running dhcpd as root?
[13:30] <ikonia> the lease file bug ?
[13:30] <Hammerhead2011-S> and creating a Cron job to change ownership to dhcpduser is dumb
[13:30] <Hammerhead2011-S> The service is running as dhcpduser and the files are owned by root
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: how did you install the ISC dhcp server?
[13:32] <Hammerhead2011-S> conical
[13:33] <Hammerhead2011-S> ActionParsnip conical
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: do you mean software centre?
[13:33] <Hammerhead2011-S> ahhhh so you are saying install from source and it wont do this crap
[13:33] <Hammerhead2011-S> might try that.
[13:33] <JuneyfailsatLinu> I am literally brand new to linux
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> didnt say that....
[13:34] <Hammerhead2011-S> apt-get install isc-dhcp-server
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: didi you use apt-get or software centre to install the service?
[13:34] <Hammerhead2011-S> default PPA
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ahhhh ok
[13:34] <Pici> Whats the "lease file bug" ?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-debian-squeeze-dhcp-server-setup-tutorial/     may help
[13:34] <Hammerhead2011-S> the service is installed to run as dhcpduser when the file rotates the service changes the ownership to root and breaks the DHCP function
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1186662
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Hammerhead2011-S: a cheeky cron as root is a workaround
not really :-) IMHO
[13:36] <Hammerhead2011-S> got to be a way around this....I will kepp looking.
[13:36] <Hammerhead2011-S> Thanks
[13:37] <Hammerhead2011-S> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CGoQFjAH&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.launchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F1186662&ei=A2Q9U9O8FNfLsQTF34L4BQ&usg=AFQjCNHv536zTViM7_TEMdnIlmwggv1jKg&sig2=8REz0dP06uDEZS93SQY9Dw&bvm=bv.63934634,d.cWc
[13:37] <Hammerhead2011-S>  in case anyone else is thinking about upgrading to the latest version
[13:40] <zorael> Is there any way to tell why apt wants to remove upstart? http://pastie.org/pastes/8991337/text
[13:40] <zorael> aptitude doesn't
[13:40] <helmut_> hi
[13:40] <zorael> *I* don't. :>
[13:41] <whiskers75> lol
[13:41] <bekks> Hammerhead2011-S: I am running an external DHCP, so it doesnt affect me. :)
[13:41] <Hammerhead2011-S> Not sure what you mean by external, either it's made by ISC or not.
[13:42] <bekks> I am not running a DHCP server on Ubuntu, so it does not affect me.
[13:42] <Hammerhead2011-S> oh. Thanks for sharing.
[13:45] <siddharth> hi\
[13:45] <siddharth> v
[13:46] <siddharth> is any one there?
[13:46] <bekks> siddharth: several hundred people.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> siddharth ask your Ubuntu question
[13:47] <siddharth> I am just keen to learn more about ubuntu. about terminal and studd.. any guidance
[13:47] <siddharth> ?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> siddharth http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[13:48] <siddharth> cfhowlett: thanks a lot :)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> siddharth: just use the terminal instead of the GUI, you'll learn
[13:49] <William3> Thanks for the book recomendations, I'm borrowing that as well
[13:50] <William3> I agree with ActionParsnip, use the GUI
[13:50] <cfhowlett> William3 or you could just download them free at the link
[13:50] <siddharth> ActionParsnip: that is what i am looking for
[13:51] <forx> :)))
[13:51] <siddharth> any specific link/ebook to start with command line?
[13:51] <forx> any handy software to move server?
[13:51] <forx> say from amazon to provider nr2
[13:54] <SunilJoshi> siddharth: http://it-ebooks.info/search/?q=Ubuntu&type=title
[13:54] <SunilJoshi> you can find almost everything about ubuntu :)
[13:56] <siddharth> bye!
[13:57] <x_root> any lunar ips program alike available for linux? tried to search but just found jips which is not in the repositories.. know any that is available through repositories?
[14:00] <zorael> Could someone versed in apt-get/dpkg-fu take a look at http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qBAJp8dJ please?
[14:00] <zorael> For some reason a not-installed sysvinit breaks upstart
[14:01] <valera_> Hi everyone! How can i enable system tray in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:02] <valera_> I can't googling this(
[14:02] <daftykins> valera_: #ubuntu+1 for future release support
[14:03] <William3> Hello Valera, the notification center (aka system tray) should be installed by default, with Unity
[14:03] <x_root> isn't the thing above every window?
[14:03] <x_root> showing the clock, name, power button.. o.O?
[14:03] <sydneyJDykstra> In ubuntu trusty I have to use nomodeset every time I boot from a flashdrive or cd. Are they going to fix that before the final version of trusty comes out?
[14:05] <ikonia> sydneyJDykstra: you JUST saw someone get told #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 14.04
[14:05] <njbair> My 13.10 installation went nuts over the weekend so I did a fresh install and now I'm having the exact same problem...anything that requires privileges (software center, network manager, pulseaudio, drive auto-mount, shutdown/reboot from menu) just doesn't work.
[14:05] <ikonia> please try to follow the channel
[14:06] <sydneyJDykstra> oops,sorry about that.
[14:07] <JuneyfailsatLinu> I just removed network manager
[14:07] <JuneyfailsatLinu> I think its the thing causing the issue
[14:07] <JuneyfailsatLinu> gonna try to handle all connections manually
[14:08] <benstein> i'm using emacs 24.3.1 on ubuntu - i just tried to using apt to install mailcrypt ( to use gpg with wanderlust ) and apt also wants to install emacs23?
[14:08] <njbair> JuneyfailsatLinu: are you having the same issue?
[14:09] <benstein> tried to use
[14:09] <benstein> apt, is there another way?
[14:09] <simiant> dfsdf
[14:09] <simiant> am i muted?
[14:10] <William3> Hello Simiant
[14:10] <cfhowlett> simiant ask your ubuntu question.
[14:10] <benstein> simiant: sorry, i cannot hear you sir
[14:10] <valera_> William3, I can't find it. In old versions I can edit "systray-whitelist", but in 14.04 I cant find it.
[14:11] <valera_> daftykins, sorry, but there is no one help me.
[14:11] <daftykins> valera_: try and be patient in the other channel
[14:12] <William3> Valera_ that may be beta issue. I've not kept up with the betas too much.
[14:12] <jhutchins> !ask
[14:12] <William3> https://drupal.org/irc/usage
[14:13] <William3> ^ IRC Guideliens
[14:15] <Valduare> morning guys
[14:16] <Valduare> how do you save your password in empathy for irc
[14:16] <Valduare> it keeps asking me
[14:19] <William3> HI Valduare, IRC doesn't use passwords normally
[14:20] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> hi guys! I, for mistake, deleted the principal user (which could use sudo) and now I'm only with a guest account (I can't use sudo). Furthermore, I never set up the root password and I think I can't use root privileges now. Can anyone tell me a way, other than use a live and chroot-ing in, to access root privileges?
[14:21] <[Gentoo]> hfdhjdsfjdnk: livecd
[14:21] <[Gentoo]> and chroot
[14:21] <brothersome> hfdhjdsfjdnk, reboot and choose for root
[14:21] <brothersome> hfdhjdsfjdnk, What about Ctrl-Alt F1
[14:21] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> brothersome: yeah, I didn't think of it!
[14:22] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> brothersome: I get the shell , but not priivileged account
[14:22] <brothersome> What about su sh
[14:22] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> brothersome: It requires the root passwd
[14:23] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> which I didn't set...
[14:23] <[Gentoo]> hfdhjdsfjdnk: why cant you use a livecd
[14:23] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> brothersome: I'm gonna try by rebooting with root privileges..thanks!
[14:23] <daftykins> hfdhjdsfjdnk: reboot, hold left shift before the disk reads, then select advanced options and recovery - then after that loads up, pick a root shell
[14:24] <hfdhjdsfjdnk> brothersome:  because I have to download it first, I was looking for something fast, but if it's the only choice... I'll use a live :)
[14:24] <daftykins> hfdhjdsfjdnk: no need for live, follow as i said above
[14:24] <Valduare> daftykins: are you using empathy
[14:24] <daftykins> Valduare: no
[14:24] <Valduare> cant get empathy to save my irc password
[14:25] <daftykins> yeah i saw you ask, no idea though. try #freenode
[14:25] <Valduare> its an empathy problem
[14:25] <Valduare> it creeps up time to time since ubuntu switched from pidgin heh
[14:30] <zsuper> i have a question, so i have this mobil modem and i connect it to my computer, but when i do ifconfig i get a #add1 but when i go to sites like whatmyip i get a different address #add2, so the question which one do i use to connect to my computer from a remote computer
[14:31] <bekks> zsuper: pastebin ifconfig -a please
[14:32] <DJones> zsuper: Does the modem let multiple devices connect to it to share internet between them?
[14:32] <zsuper> bekks like i said i have 2 different addresses
[14:32] <bekks> zsuper: Then pastebin ifconfig -a please.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> zsuper: wget -qO- icanhazip.com
[14:33] <zsuper> no multiple devices
[14:33] <zsuper> one computer connected directly to the modem
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest92586
[14:33] <Guest92586> Creating:crack extend rake install
[14:34] <Pici> Guest92586: excuse me?
[14:34] <brothersome> zsuper, that one from whatsmyip
[14:34] <Guest92586> Research adress:55 RUE LAMARCK 75018
[14:34] <brothersome> zsuper, is your ip fixed or variable, if variable use for example no-ip
[14:34] <DJones> Guest92586: Stop, this is Ubuntu support
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> zsuper: the command I gave will probably be the IP to use
[14:34] <Guest92586> Есть кто из России?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !ru|Guest92586
[14:35] <zsuper> thanks brothersome i am going to see
[14:35] <mabus> how can i install a regular install to usb, not a livecd or persistent livecd
[14:35] <jhutchins> zsuper: Sounds like the modem is in bridged mode.  Only way to be sure is to try to connect with the internal address (the one on the computer).
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> mabus: just select the drive as the destination when you install the OS, treat it like a 'normal' drive
[14:36] <zsuper> jhutchins how do i do that
[14:36] <jhutchins> zsuper: ping?  ssh?
[14:36] <brothersome> mabus: Look for grub4dos, I like puppylinux for an installation.
[14:36] <mabus> its a 1tb drive i dont need a tiny one
[14:36] <zsuper> when i ping from another computer to the one whith the modem, it's said no host
[14:37] <zsuper> for both addresses
[14:37] <jhutchins> zsuper: I support an office that has a connection like that, you can "see" the modem at it's external address, but we don't have any login on it; you can also "see" the internal address that is the router connected to the modem.
[14:37] <mabus> what about a minimal install cd i dibt have dvds or a second usb drive
[14:37] <mabus> is the amd64+mac one ok for non nacs?
[14:37] <mabus> non macs
[14:37] <jhutchins> zsuper: What about if you ping from the internal system?
[14:38] <daftykins> mabus: you wouldn't pick the mac one for non-macs
[14:38] <mabus> there is no minimal installcd for amd64 or x86 then?
[14:38] <Guest92586> mlxEM1.foo.org:$
[14:38] <mabus> only calculators and macs?
[14:38] <Pici> mabus: huh. of course there is.
[14:38] <jhutchins> mabus: You're not making any sense.
[14:39] <Pici> mabus: I don't know where you're looking, but its the wrong spot.  Try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:39] <zsuper> no nothing from internal system, the computer whith the modem is connected to the intenet, but i can't rech it from any other device
[14:40] <linagee> which channel was for discussing about 14.04?
[14:41] <DJones> linagee: #ubuntu+1
[14:41] <linagee> thx
[14:41] <brothersome> zsuper: See the side ping.eu and ping your computer, I think your ISP has firewalled you
[14:41] <mabus> Pici: ok thanks, operating on a phone here
[14:42] <mabus> jhutchins: on the alternate install cds it links you to mirrors, where it lists many types of alternate install cds, x86/amd64 minimal not included.
[14:42] <mabus> i'm fine now
[14:44] <cds> will there be a clear upgrade path from 14.04 beta -> 14.04 ?
[14:44] <DJones> !final | cds
[14:45] <k1l> cds:  like always, yes. but alpha/beta support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:45] <cds> sorry, and thank you
[14:45] <k1l> !away > BPositive|afk
[14:45] <zsuper> i just scand the computer whith -Pn flag and the host is up. but i have an ssh on that computer and i can't connect to it
[14:46] <Infitialis> does anyone know how to setup a vlan bridge?
[14:47] <lubuntozz_> hi all i need help
[14:48] <lubuntozz_> i have lubuntu 13.10
[14:48] <SchrodingersScat> !details | lubuntozz_
[14:49] <lubuntozz_> when i install lubuntu on my pc whitout official drivero of nvidia, it work fine. but when i install official driver of nvidea my lubuntu don't restart and don't shut down
[14:50] <[Gentoo]> nvidia driver seems to mess everyones ubuntu up
[14:50] <ikonia> it works fine as long as it supports your card
[14:51] <ikonia> or you don't use an external site provided one
[14:51] <[Gentoo]> apparently it dont
[14:51] <xMopxShell> anyone know if there is a quicker way to find all links to a file besides find -samefile?
[14:52] <lubuntozz_> when it don't shut down i need to pull the power button on the pc
[14:52] <lubuntozz_> and when i restart it my audio don't work
[14:52] <jhutchins> [Gentoo]: There is a wide range of hardware implementation and possible combinations with motherboards.  Some work well, some don't.
[14:53] <ikonia> and it's not "nvidia+ubuntu" it's "nvidia"
[14:53] <TJ-> xMopxShell: Not unless the system keeps a db indexed on inode
[14:53] <xMopxShell> alright
[14:53] <[Gentoo]> no its nvidia and ubuntu, something to do with the way its automated
[14:53] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: what's automated ?
[14:53] <lubuntozz_> ikonia: [Gentoo] can help me to solve this problem?
[14:53] <ikonia> lubuntozz_: what problem ?
[14:54] <lubuntozz_> i can be crazy whit it :S
[14:54] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: the amount of people who complain about black screen / funny res / all other sorts of issues after installing / uninstall nvidia driver on ubuntu
[14:54] <lubuntozz_> ikonia: my lubuntu don't restart and don't shut down
[14:54] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: yes, because their hardware is not supported
[14:54] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: it's common on other distros
[14:54] <[Gentoo]> nvidia driver supports almost every card
[14:54] <ikonia> no, it doesn't
[14:54] <[Gentoo]> and its nowhere near as common
[14:55] <ikonia> that's why there are multiple versions
[14:55] <ikonia> and they are also linked against a kernel interface + xorg
[14:55] <jhutchins> ikonia: Yeah, the nouveau driver does.
[14:55] <ikonia> jhutchins: that's not the "nvidia" driver
[14:55] <ikonia> that's the nouveau
[14:55] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: 99% of people with the problems are running "standard" cards, 400 series etc
[14:55] <apt-get_install> Hi, where can I find a list of all translators of the 12.04 release?
[14:55] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: you've just made up that statistic
[14:56] <ikonia> pleaes don't just make stuff up to try to justify your position
[14:56] <apt-get_install> Remember some "Thanks to..."-page
[14:56] <lubuntozz_> ikonia: [Gentoo] this is my grub
[14:56] <lubuntozz_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7199010/
[14:56] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: just going by people ive asked in here
[14:56] <[Gentoo]> whatcard they have
[14:56] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: how many have you asked ?
[14:57] <[Gentoo]> dont know
[14:57] <lubuntozz_> in this grub i have changed some lines because lubuntu give me bad splash screen
[14:57] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: right, so %99 is just a made up number
[14:57] <lubuntozz_> whit nvidia driver
[14:57] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: the other thing to consider if the framebuffer config
[14:58] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: im not arguing, just saying, almost every time i join this room, someone has a problem with nvidia driver and black screen or some other serious issue
[14:58] <[Gentoo]> from either installing or uninstalling nvidia
[14:58] <edinny> How do I stop automatic logout after inactivity?
[14:58] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: yes, and when you look at the problems, a good chunk are either a.) framebuffer b.) external nvidia module c.) unsupported higher end card d.) incorrect/failed install/config
[14:59] <lubuntozz_> ikonia:  [Gentoo] [~Gentoo@2001:470:681e::dead] has quit [Quit: [Gentoo]]
[14:59] <ikonia> lubuntozz_: yes, I saw it, however I typed it as he quit
[14:59] <lubuntozz_> hehe
[14:59] <njbair> the important thing is, he quit. let's just enjoy that
[14:59] <lubuntozz_> ikonia: can help me to solve this Crazy problem whit my lubuntu desktop^
[14:59] <dcope> hey all
[15:00] <apt-get_install> anyone?
[15:00] <dcope> is it safe to restart the networking service over ssh?
[15:00] <ikonia> lubuntozz_: no idea
[15:00] <njbair> 99% of people in this channel quit IRC
[15:00] <lubuntozz_> :S
[15:00] <czs> hi
[15:00] <njbair> dcope: that depends on whether your new config is correct
[15:00] <dcope> njbair: the new config is correct, yes
[15:01] <njbair> dcope: you will have downtime for a moment but if you are confident in your config it's safe.
[15:01] <William3> apt-get_install, are you looking for the people who did the translating, or the translations themselves?
[15:01] <dcope> njbair: cool, just with sudo service network-manager restart ?
[15:01] <apt-get_install> William3: the people
[15:01] <njbair> dcope: ype
[15:01] <apt-get_install> and the bug reporters as well
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: do you really care about the splash screen....really?
[15:01] <njbair> yep*
[15:02] <frank_o> Hi. In vipw my root has: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/zsh -- but how come when I "sudo su", it won't "source /etc/zshrc"?
[15:02] <lubuntozz_> ikonia: i have strange lubuntu :D when i use nvidia driver it don't restart and don't shut down ever, and when i pull power bottom i lost audio in new session :S
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: was the desktop OK before you started changing things?
[15:02] <William3> apt-get_install> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Contact
[15:02] <ikonia> lubuntozz_: ask the channel - not me I've already said I have no idea about your problem
[15:03] <lubuntozz_> a little ok ActionParsnip because the screen is ok 1280x etc. but it is not center. It is little in left side
[15:03] <njbair> ikonia: 99% of people in this chat room don't know how to fix his problem.
[15:03] <lubuntozz_> thanks ikonia
[15:03] <Fjorgynn> 99% of the people are trolls
[15:03] <ikonia> njbair: ok - we get the gag now
[15:03] <czs> I wanted to install trusty with mini.iso, but the network card is not working. It is a realtek 8167. Is there a quick fix for this?
[15:04] <ikonia> !14.01 | czs
[15:04] <ikonia> !14.04 | czs
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> czs: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support
[15:04] <lubuntozz_> ActionParsnip: the best problem i have is the shut down and restart command
[15:04] <Fjorgynn> czs: wirelss?
[15:04] <njbair> I'm pretty sure if you got the gag there would be more LOLs in here.
[15:04] <apt-get_install> William3: i 'm sure i saw a big name list in the release note, but now it's all gone
[15:04] <czs> Fjorgynn: no
[15:04] <frank_o> Hi. In vipw my root has: root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/zsh -- but how come when I "sudo su", it won't "source /etc/zshrc"?
[15:04] <edinny> How do I stop ubuntu from logging me out after inactivity on my desktop?
[15:05] <czs> ikonia: got it, thanks
[15:05] <njbair> edinny: does it log you out or just lock the screen?
[15:05] <ikonia> frank_o: 1.) sudo su is the wrong command 2.) /etc/zshrc is the wrong file
[15:05] <William3> apt-get_install> try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Contact/Teams?action=show&redirect=TranslatingUbuntu%2FContact%2FTeams
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> edinny: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:06] <frank_o> ikonia: 1) What is the right command? 2) Isn't it /etc/zshrc on most other Unix systems?
[15:06] <frank_o> ikonia: sudo -l root?
[15:06] <lubuntozz_> but is so strange if i don't use official driver of nvidea all work, but when i use this official driver video card it don'r work fine ActionParsnip. Now if i remove the driver, the system don't work like old operative system i have installed for first
[15:07] <glambert> playing around with the "screen" tool, how do you exit from viewing a screen without killing it's process?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: does the open source driver do what you need?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: or do you use a lot of 3D games?
[15:07] <ikonia> frank_o: sudo -i and normally the global files such as /etc/* are sourced from the ~/.local_to_the_user file, etc ~/.bashrc sources ~/.bash_profile (or the other way around) and /etc/$something
[15:08] <ikonia> frank_o: could be different (as you suggest on zsh)
[15:08] <lubuntozz_> i need to use proprietary drivers
[15:08] <frank_o> ikonia: /etc/zshrc is the standard file on zsh afaik
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: what for?
[15:08] <ikonia> frank_o: probably not sourcing it then as you're not invoking a login shell
[15:08] <glambert> ah, CTRL+a then d and it detached
[15:08] <njbair> frank_o: ~/.zshrc
[15:08] <lubuntozz_> for a game and grapical application
[15:08] <apt-get_install> William3: all i can find is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/12.04
[15:08] <frank_o> ikonia: good point
[15:09] <lubuntozz_> craphical :S
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: have you tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then reboot
[15:09] <frank_o> njbair: I got a couple of other users as well, would like a global file
[15:09] <lubuntozz_> and what i need to do in xconfig program of nvidea?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: its a command, it makes an xorg.conf file for you
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: it's nvidia too, not nvidea
[15:11] <frank_o> Why does "visudo" launch Nano? Shouldn't visudo launch vi and then instead make a "vinano" for laymen?
[15:11] <frank_o> sorry nanosudo :P
[15:11] <ikonia> frank_o: it launches what's in EDITOR variable
[15:11] <frank_o> ooh i see
[15:11] <lubuntozz_> ActionParsnip: WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.  New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: yes, it doesnt exist by default.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: note teh word is 'warning' not 'error'
[15:12] <Hammerhead2011-S> For all who care, get ISC dhcpd off of the website not from default PPA to avoid the leases file bug
[15:12] <lubuntozz_> and now what i need to do?
[15:13] <edinny> njbair: got kicked. It is not the screensaver locking my screen.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: reboot, or you can run:  killall -u $USER     and it will reload X and the xorg.conf file will be used
[15:13] <edinny> How do I stop from being logged out in 14.04 after inactivity?
[15:13] <von_neumann> USB keyboard/mouse work fine from shell, but not in X, anyone seen this before?
[15:13] <flummy> von_neumann: maybe it has to do with the intelligent input bus
[15:13] <zenting> edinny - System Settings -> Brightness and Lock?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> edinny: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support
[15:14] <cfhowlett> edinny support for 14.04 is in the other channel until official release: #ubuntu+1
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> edinny: the topic CLEARLY states:  Questions about Trusty/14.04 go in #ubuntu+1 until it is officially released
[15:14] <whoever> hi all
[15:14] <dcope> sudo service network-manager restart
[15:14] <dcope> network-manager: unrecognized service
[15:14] <lubuntozz_> ActionParsnip: what?
[15:14] <dcope> did the service name change?
[15:15] <lubuntozz_> if i do that it can solve the problem?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> lubuntozz_: reboot the PC, keep it simpler for you
[15:15] <whoever> i am tring to print to a windows printer and i use to be able to print to it untill a few weeks ago , can someone assist
[15:15] <flummy> lubuntozz_: /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[15:15] <flummy> sorry
[15:15] <flummy> dcope
[15:16] <lubuntozz_> flummy: ??
[15:16] <von_neumann> flummy, just plugged/unplugged the keyboard and the Xorg log sais it cant find evdev module
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> whoever: have you rebooted both systems and the router between
[15:16] <lubuntozz_> if i do restart ActionParsnip it don't work like shut down
[15:16] <whoever> ActionParsnip: yes