[09:42] <gour> morning...i'm not using ubuntu (atm i run freebsd), but in a few days i'd like to install ubuntu on my friend's netbook - lenovo with ati hd6310 graphic. here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver) i see the following: "These cards should work with Ubuntu Natty/11.04, however you will need a more recent version of Mesa (7.11.x) than Natty's default (7.10.x) to get 3D acceleration. " what does it
[09:42] <gour> mean in practice?
[09:42] <abhishekb> whenever i switch to unity2d half of my taskbar remains white and close min. max. buttons disapperar from it wat to do ?
[09:43] <rhin0> means you have to get a proprietary driver gour --- you will find it on the ati website mayb e
[09:43] <theadmin> Merley: Consider Xubuntu. It's great, and Xfce feels a lot like Gnome2
[09:43] <max9ai> Please, I need this answer, google doesn't help.
[09:43] <urlin2u> abhishekb, have you tweaked compiz?
[09:43] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty?
[09:44] <rhin0> or through system > preferences > additional driuvers  gour after updating the system
[09:44] <gour> rhin0: so, no luck with open-source driver?
[09:44] <urlin2u> should be applications gour
[09:44] <abhishekb> yup
[09:44] <rhin0> gour quite often the proprietary driver is up to date it says from what you said there is a drive r-- jsut get it
[09:44] <urlin2u> abhishekb, whats you goal with compiz
[09:44] <rhin0> is more up to date
[09:44] <theadmin> casey: Compiz not running?
[09:44] <Merley> theadmin: All I wanted was to remove the flashy stuff.. and I ended up breaking stuff. ;)
[09:44] <rhin0> depends on the manufacturer
[09:44] <casey> theadmin: Compiz is up and running.
[09:44] <Goku283> lol
[09:45] <doritoDan> casey: Yeah, I'm trying to SU
[09:45] <rhin0> so yuo've been deleting thints merley
[09:45] <theadmin> Merley: Well, xfce isn't flashy :D
[09:45] <gour> rhin0: well, i'd prefer open-source driver...i also avoid propr. ones
[09:45] <Olleh> casey, i have no idea what "Super+A" is supposed to do. Maybe it was a custom keyboard mapping that you had setup somehow. Use System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts to remap it.
[09:45] <doritoDan> er, sudo
[09:45] <theadmin> casey: Install and open ccsm, and see the shortcuts there
[09:45] <doritoDan> Are you saying the $ is unecessary?
[09:45] <theadmin> doritoDan: Normally isn't
[09:45] <rhin0> gour - the manufacturer may on occasion be able to supply a more advanced driver (particularly for desktop effects / 3d effects)
[09:46] <theadmin> doritoDan: $ is for variables, like $HOME or $USER
[09:46] <gour> rhin0: yeah. i'ma aware of it. my friend (she) wants to enjoy wathing movies as well
[09:46] <casey> theadmin: I already have ccsm. Where are the shortcuts listed? BTW, this shortcut should come default on unity. It's to open the Applications lens of the dash.
[09:47] <Merley> rhin0: Apparently I have. :s Was trying to activate metacity and something went wrong. :)
[09:47] <rhin0> just google for the driver / source
[09:47] <theadmin> casey: Oh... I don't know anything about Unity
[09:47] <casey> Olleh: I can't follow your path. I'm on natty. Where should i go if i'm on unity?
[09:47] <casey> theadmin: darn. Any ideas where shortcuts are normally stored on any ubuntu models?
[09:48] <Olleh> ive got no idea about unity either. when gnome went that direction, i installed Debian.
[09:48] <doritoDan> theadmin: Well, why is this guide asking me to put  $ before my sudo then?
[09:48] <doritoDan> I don't understand what it's for. :-/
[09:48] <theadmin> doritoDan: $ normally indicates the $PS1
[09:48] <casey> dorritoDan: In other words. The "$" is done for you :).
[09:48] <Cacique> hmm '-'
[09:48] <gour> another question: what do you think about unity vs. gnome-3 for (ex.) window user? what's easier?
[09:48] <theadmin> doritoDan: Like the prompt, you have something like "username@ubuntu:~$ " in front of the place where your commands are typed
[09:48] <Olleh> doritoDan: if you look at your command prompt (as a normal user) it will end in a $ to indicate thats where you start typing.
[09:48] <theadmin> gour: KDE.
[09:49] <doritoDan> Yeah, I understand that the prefix is automated.
[09:49] <doritoDan> I'm just wondering what it's for. :)
[09:49] <casey> dorritoDan: So no need to retype it again :).
[09:49] <doritoDan> AYE.
[09:49] <gour> theadmin: for me kde is too bloated...never tried gnome-3 and i use xfce
[09:49] <doritoDan> …Aye*
[09:49] <RudyValencia> It's to let you know what user, server, and user type you are.
[09:49] <casey> dorritoDan: Oh ok. Out of my realm of knowledge.
[09:49] <Olleh> $ = normal user, # = root. its just a visual indicator
[09:49] <doritoDan> Ah, ok.
[09:49] <doritoDan> Cool.
[09:49] <RudyValencia> er, user, system, and user type.
[09:49] <doritoDan> What I'm trying to do is install Unity 2D onto an Ubuntu virtualization.
[09:49] <theadmin> gour: Well, I use Xfce as well, but for Windows users KDE is the simpliest option
[09:50] <doritoDan> Couldn't get it to work though - it couldn't find certain files.
[09:50] <casey> is there any reason why the shortcut "Super+A" or "Super+F"  would not be working for me on a fresh install of Natty? Any answers on this? Even guesses will help.
[09:50] <theadmin> gour: XFCE is good too if configured properly
[09:50] <doritoDan> Is there a Unity channel?
[09:50] <bittin_> doritoDan: #ayatana
[09:50] <theadmin> Olleh: Heh, with my modifications it's "+" for normal user and "!!!" for root :D
[09:50] <theadmin> Olleh: But yeah, normally that's so
[09:50] <Olleh> haha cool. i like the exclamation marks warning you not to be stupid with commands :D
[09:51] <doritoDan> Thanks.
[09:51] <gour> theadmin: if i'd like to put xfce on the machine, is it available in ubuntu repos, or one has to install xubuntu? (i run freebsd and will return soon back to arch)
[09:51] <Shambler[Bishop> how do I restart samba? service smbd/nmbd restart doesn't work
[09:51] <Shambler[Bishop> same with sudo /etc/etc.../ restart
[09:51] <Shambler[Bishop> can't find the service in both cases
[09:51] <theadmin> gour: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: sudo stop smbd && sudo stop nmbd && sudo start nmbd && sudo start smbd <- mind the order here
[09:52] <Shambler[Bishop> ya but those services don't exist apparently
[09:52] <gour> theadmin: thanks
[09:52] <tester> HI everybody
[09:52] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: if they don't exist, you don't have samba installed
[09:52] <diimdeep> Hello, it's possible to redirect some port through apache(80 port), for example localhost:79 -> localhost:80/something/ ??
[09:53] <Shambler[Bishop> is samba only the server component of file sharing then, or is it required to connect to a share on windows as well?
[09:53] <Olleh> diimdeep: look up mod_proxy
[09:53] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: if you connect to a share on another machine, you obviously need a client
[09:54] <szal> Shambler[Bishop: with the server you can offer shares on the network from your machine
[09:54] <Shambler[Bishop> so is the samba service also part of the client?
[10:02] <bambanx> guys how i can make a log of my outputs on my shell on ubuntu?
[10:04] <Shambler[Bishop> ok, samba (client) seems to have broken entirely in ubuntu even after a restart *sigh*
[10:04] <Shambler[Bishop> like pulling teeth
[10:05] <Shambler[Bishop> what's a good way to troubleshoot this? I'm lost
[10:05] <dc5ala> bambanx, explain what you are trying to achieve
[10:06] <bambanx> list
[10:06] <phrip> does anyone know a way of putting everything on my screen through a visual effect (eg blue tinting) without affecting my ability to interact with the OS? Is there a way i could use an API in a language like Java to do it? Is there somewhere else i should be asking this question?
[10:07] <wildbat> !compiz | phrip
[10:07] <jrib> phrip: define "everything"
[10:07] <phrip> every visible pixel on my screen
[10:08] <wildbat> !ccsm | phrip
[10:08] <jrib> phrip: ah I see what you mean now
[10:08] <phrip> oh cool
[10:08] <phrip> thankyou very much
[10:08] <Wapi> hi, is there a way for launching a command every time you conect to a network ?
[10:08] <dc5ala> bambanx, what list?
[10:09] <fmauro> Wapi: yes, look for network-manager dispatcher.d script folder.
[10:09] <jrib> Wapi: yes, see iptables example
[10:09] <Wapi> thanks fmauro and jrib
[10:09] <jrib> !iptables | Wapi
[10:10] <jrib> Wapi: dispatcher.d is also documented in networkmanager's man page
[10:10] <turkmen> dear all, could you please help me with Proxy problem
[10:10] <jrib> turkmen: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[10:11] <Wapi> yep jrib reading it right now !
[10:11] <Wapi> seems like that is exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot
[10:11] <TomasHanzel> Hi all...i have zorin os, based on Ubuntu 10.04. can you tell me please, how can i change bootscreen? any link or sth?
[10:13] <turkmen> I install NOD32 to my Ubuntu 11.04, try to update over Enterpice Proxy server, change Nod settings to proxy with autorization (account and password), but can not to update
[10:13] <wildbat> !plymouth | TomasHanzel
[10:13] <TomasHanzel> wildbat: thanks
[10:14] <turkmen> who can help with NOD32 proxy settings??????
[10:14] <muneeb> is it ok to delete /boot/burg? i want my old grub2
[10:16] <theadmin> turkmen: NOD32? That's more of a Windows question.
[10:16] <turkmen> I know, but Windows must to die, so why I come to ubuntu support!!!!!!
[10:16] <wildbat> them have linux port now :p , never used it thou
[10:17] <tomekh> I'm looking for simple musicbrains tagging shell script. Don't want to use Picard or Kid3. Any suggestions, please? Do I need python-musicbrainz2?
[10:17] <muneeb> !burg
[10:18] <rhin0> python is part of linux -- simpler than shell scripts
[10:18] <turkmen> theadmin: could you please recomend me IRC chat, where I can find an answer for my questions?
[10:18] <rhin0> you will find more up to date -- python scripts just run the same as shell scripts tomekh
[10:19] <muneeb> is it ok to delete /boot/burg to get back grub2?
[10:19] <turkmen> NOD32 for Linux installend on my Ubuntu!
[10:19] <theadmin> muneeb: Won't work
[10:19] <theadmin> muneeb: You need to sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[10:20] <muneeb> theadmin, okay thanks
[10:21] <wildbat> turkmen:  double check the proxy server you've entered if it is correct (ask the IT department if you need) and ask NOD32 for its tech support
[10:22] <turkmen> wildbat: Proxy server ip-<IP_ADDRESS>:8080, domain- burren-nd, user-visitor, password-*******
[10:23] <wildbat> turkmen: there is no way we can tell if it is correct .
[10:24] <turkmen> wildbat: with this proxy setting Firefox work properly, and Skype too
[10:24] <wildbat> then ask nod32's tech support :)
[10:26] <threexk> Does anyone know a tool to diagram digital logic from a set of equations?
[10:26] <threexk> wrong channel
[10:30] <Arthur> hello, could u guys please tell me a program for make a video? I just need to put a .wav in a photo which would last like 30 seconds
[10:30] <Arthur> i want to upload it in youtube xD
[10:34] <Doc_CoBrA> list
[10:34]  * starlon checks it twice.
[10:35] <phinoy> .t
[10:41] <ace> hey... how  do I fix my transmission torrent client. It fails to download anything whenever I try
[10:42] <DrGrov> Can I somehow activate my iPhone 4 in Ubuntu without needing to use iTunes?
[10:45] <cmr> I have added a .conf file for a service in /etc/init/ on a lucid box, and have tried a few different ways of making it start upon boot: runlevel, start after another service. also, my new service is listed in initctl list but not by service --status-all. any idea what I might be doing wrong=
[10:46] <zth> i've recently tried kernel 3.0 via oneiric-repos, and accidently upgraded some other packages aswell from my natty. is there a way to reverse this and make sure all packages i have are for natty and not oneiric?
[10:47] <th0r> cmr: I don't think you don't put a conf file there, you need an executable script that runs the service.
[10:48] <cmr> th0r, for upstart?
[10:48] <jrib> zth: you probably have a partial upgrade to oneiric at this point...
[10:49] <zth> jrib, yes, i remember seeing that!
[10:49] <zth> and clicking yes, stupid me..
[10:49] <jrib> zth: I assume it was a lot of packages?
[10:49] <cmr> th0r, /etc/init.d/ has executable scripts, yes, but that's for old sysv-init scripts
[10:49] <zth> jrib, not that much, but a couple
[10:49] <th0r> cmr: ok
[10:49] <jrib> zth: weird, but you can try downgrading them if you want
[10:49] <jrib> cmr: you should pastebin the .conf  you created
[10:49] <zth> jrib, how do i do that?
[10:50] <jrib> zth: apt-get install package=version
[10:50] <jrib> zth: and you should disable the oneiric repository
[10:50] <zth> jrgifford, would that mean apt-get install package=natty ?
[10:50] <theadmin> zth: No, something like apt-get install firefox=3.5
[10:51] <jrib> zth: no, apt-cache policy will show you versions.  If you want to specify release I think the syntax is "package/natty"
[10:51] <zth> ok, thanks. but i dont know what packages was upgraded in the partial upgrade, is there a way to find that out?
[10:53] <theadmin> zth: You can't normally downgrade
[10:56] <orchata> Is there an alternative to nokia pc suit for linux?
[10:56] <swe3tdave> how come i boot up, i start firefox, thunderbird, xchat, and more than 1GB of memory is beeing used up already..
[10:56] <DroidAgent> Slightly offtopic, but does anyone know if new EC2 accounts take a while for instances to become available after initial signup?
[10:56] <orchata> Or is there a way to get access to messages that are stored in cell phone? Because my screen is not working.
[10:56] <theadmin> swe3tdave: Firefox.
[10:57] <zth> theadmin, i can't downgrade?
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> Äh - ist es "schlimm", wenn man auf einem 8 GB-System unabsichtlich ein 32bit-Linux installiert hat?
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> sorry, fc
[10:57] <swe3tdave> theadmin, why firefox take so much memory?
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> Well - is it problematic to have a 32-bit-Linux installed on a 64bit-System?
[10:57] <theadmin> PolitikerNEU: Ich glaub so, ja, aber die Deutsche Support ist in #ubuntu-de
[10:58] <PolitikerNEU> Yeah, touchpad has made me switch the chnnel
[10:58] <PolitikerNEU> Well - I should add that I got 8 GB RAM
[10:58] <theadmin> PolitikerNEU: If you want to use more than 3GB RAM on a 32-bit system, consider using PAE
[10:58] <theadmin> !pae | PolitikerNEU
[10:59] <PolitikerNEU> I think ubuntu has installed it automatically: uname -a results in Linux robert-notebook 2.6.38-11-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 20:51:21 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:59] <theadmin> PolitikerNEU: Sounds good then
[10:59] <cmr> jrib, do you have a preferred pastebin in this channel?
[11:00] <jrib> cmr: paste.ubuntu.com exists, but we don't really care which you use
[11:00] <theadmin> cmr: None really, any will do as long as it's family-safe (i.e. no porn ads or something)
[11:01] <cmr> jrib, ok. this is /etc/init/sshtunnel.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/674446/
[11:02] <kevor> hullow, I can't seem to set my wireless card to master mode, error:
[11:03] <kevor> http://pastebin.com/x7N5RMVz
[11:03] <zth> so there is no way to easily reverse a partial upgrade?!
[11:05] <bamcris> how do i remove kde from ubuntu?
[11:07] <natrixnatrix89> hi guys.. Is it possible to select layers in gimp simply by clicking them?
[11:09] <CajunTechie> Bamcris: I think you can sudo apt-get remove kde-full IIRC
[11:11] <drpars> s.a
[11:14] <Lantizia> Hey can you just stick "-minimal" on the end of any package name to get less dependancies?
[11:14] <Lantizia> I'm looking for a package that www.spectrum.im swears blind exists called libpurple0-minimal... but only libpurple0 exists
[11:14] <glebihan> !puregnome | bambee
[11:14] <glebihan> !puregnome | bamcris
[11:14] <glebihan> bambee, sorry wrong nick
[11:15] <busigast> Hello ! :) i have a dell vostro 3350 but i cant get the wireless to work, everything else works )= can anyone help me ?
[11:15] <phinoy> hi! is there a way to list all the installed packages in my machine using apt-get? thanks.
[11:16] <glebihan> phinoy, not with apt-get but "dpkg-query -l" does that
[11:16] <Myrtti> Lantizia: no, you can't stick -minimal to the end and expect the package exists
[11:17] <phinoy> thanks, I'll try that
[11:17] <Tonton> just installed ubuntu on a fairly newer computer, ethernet isn't working properly need to find drivers for network card i assume, can anybody point me in the right direction?
[11:17] <Lantizia> Myrtti, but according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libpurple0-minimal it doesn't
[11:17] <Tonton> also running in failsafe graphic mode just to see the display
[11:17] <Lantizia> Myrtti, yet you do an apt-get install on that package name and it works
[11:18] <cmr> jrib, I checked the syslog, and apparently the script was started before networking went up. I used the solution on http://serverfault.com/questions/117584/upstart-scripts-run-a-task-after-networking-goes-up to fix it.
[11:18] <p1l0t> When I try to open this pdf file (from a government source) I get: To view the full contents of this document, you need a later version of the PDF viewer. You can upgrade
[11:18] <p1l0t> to the latest version of Adobe Reader
[11:18] <p1l0t> They must have created it with the new propietary adobe version
[11:19] <p1l0t> Any work arounds for this? my google searches haven't been helping
[11:19] <Myrtti> Lantizia: well it might work on your computer if you've got some extra software sources (repositories) that come with that package, but it is not in the official repositories, and it doesn't work for me
[11:20] <glebihan> Lantizia, it only works because there is a package named libpurple0-minimal, but there's no general rule (and most packages don't come with a -minimal version)
[11:21] <p1l0t> There appears to be a bug filed for evince but not fixed yet
[11:22] <p1l0t> I remember you used to be able to do something on command line, convert it to something and back and it would work but I forgot what it was and don't know if it still works..
[11:23] <glebihan> p1l0t, I think this may be because the document contains some fields that can be filled up
[11:24] <glebihan> p1l0t, I've never been able to open those files with anything else than acroread
[11:25] <p1l0t> glebihan: Thanks, and yes it does have fields to be filled in.
[11:26] <glebihan> p1l0t, you're welcome
[11:28] <Chrisu> hi... Can anybody help me on 11.04 with the 5.1 surround? I can't make it work..
[11:30] <smok_> why i can register? al time nickserv tell me my e-mail is not a valid address :S
[11:30] <smok_> i cant*
[11:31] <glebihan> smok_, please join #freenode for registration questions
[11:31] <Chrisu> hi... Can anybody help me on 11.04 with the 5.1 surround? I can't make it work..:(
[11:32] <smok_> join #freenode
[11:33] <p1l0t> smok_ /join
[11:33] <Chrisu> is it for help? or what
[11:33] <smok_> lo, thanks
[11:33] <glebihan> !patience | Chrisu
[11:37] <monty156> i have a non ubuntu question but i have no idea where to ask. are you guys gonna go mental if i ask here?
[11:37] <Aquix> yes
[11:37] <Aquix> but try
[11:37] <Chrisu> lol
[11:37] <monty156> lol thanks
[11:37] <Aquix> go for it
[11:38] <zth> is there an easy way to find out if i have any packages installed that are in higher version then the ones i have in my repos?
[11:38] <ox3a> Can i use Ubuntu on Macbook without any problem(Primary OS)?
[11:38] <monty156> i just found a great game online playable in terminal by typing telnet telehack.com. dont know if you guys have heard of it. just wondering if anyone knows of any forums or an irc channel where i can get help? or how to find such a channel?
[11:39] <Aquix> ox3a - macs can be tricky. But there is a mac section on ubuntuforums
[11:39] <monty156> also if you havent heard of it, try it its great lol
[11:39] <ox3a> Aquix, i see... Tricky is not good if Ubuntu is primary os
[11:40] <Aquix> ox3a - I only know there can be issues. If they are hard to fix or not I have no clue
[11:41] <glebihan> Aquix, you should not have told to try
[11:41] <glebihan> monty156, as you said this is offtopic here...
[11:42] <Aquix> I told you monty156    someone would go mental   ;P
[11:42] <monty156> glebihan: sorry i thought it was a longshot. sorry all
[11:45] <viro> мне сказали что тут можно получать квалифицированную помощь пользлвателям gnu/linux? это так?
[11:46] <gneral> viro, turkish please
[11:46] <bazhang> !ru | viro
[11:47] <navarro> anyone with BT5?
[11:47] <gneral> !tr | gneral
[11:47] <bazhang> navarro, in the #backtrack-linux support channel
[11:48] <navarro> need some proxy.. any advice?
[11:48] <bazhang> navarro, ask in their channel, it's not supported here
[11:49] <navarro> is there a channel for ymlf?
[11:49] <bazhang> !alis | navarro have a look
[11:49] <navarro> thnx
[11:50] <navarro> any advice for hardening ubuntu firewall?
[11:50] <IdleOne> navarro: #ubuntu-hardened
[11:50] <navarro> is there any conf file to edit?
[11:50] <navarro> (>_<)
[11:51] <navarro> file loc?
[11:51] <m|kael_> is there any easy way to integrate google's mail and calendar into ubuntu for use instead of evolution?
[11:52] <glebihan> navarro, what firewall are you using ?
[11:52] <navarro> can i run x.org file to Access GUI on ubuntu server?
[11:53] <navarro> i guess i have no firewall? just install ymlf any there it is
[11:54] <bazhang> navarro, bt5 and ylmfos are not supported here, please dont ask for help with them
[11:54] <REK_007> how to know which services are enabled on start up ? and how to disable them
[11:54] <navarro> is there a default firewall in ubuntu? i mean when u install ubuntu..there  is a hidden process for the firewall software
[11:55] <pacs> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 10.4. I have noticed it's using "IcedTea Java 6 Web Start" to run an application through the browser, but it's not working in this computer. In the other one it works just fine and I'm using Openjdk 6 Web Start. I wonder how can I make this Ubuntu 10.4 use Openjdk 6 Web Start???
[11:55] <bazhang> !iptables > navarro
[11:56] <pzn> I have a new notebook, it came with win7 and I used it for one week. yesterday I installed ubuntu 11.04 desktop 64. with ubuntu it works for a few minutes and everything locks. ctrl+alt+f1 login "ps aux" many processes are "D" waiting for disk. what should I do now? model is HP G42-321BR
[11:57] <navarro> is there any binary module for PXPerl in ubuntu?
[11:57] <pacs> How can I make my Ubuntu 10.4 use Openjdk 6 Web Start instead of IcedTea Java 6 Web Start?
[11:57] <bazhang> navarro, apt-cache search *term* and find out
[11:58] <pacs> (I haven't found it on Ubuntu Software Center)
[11:59] <pacs> :(
[12:00] <m|kael_> why cant i change prefered e-mail application from evolution to gnome gmail?
[12:00] <IdleOne> pacs: there is a openjdk-6-jdk but I don't know about the Web Start you are mentioning
[12:01] <Pici> pacs: If you have the suitable packages already installed, then you can use sudo update-java-alternatives
[12:01] <pacs> IdleOne: I installed this one, but when I try to run the app Firefox only showes me "IcedTea JAva 6 Web Start"
[12:02] <IdleOne> pacs: follow Pici's advice
[12:02] <pacs> in my other version of Ubuntu, it has two packages, OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime and OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start
[12:09] <pacs> Does anyone know where I can get the .deb file one would get through apt-get?
[12:10] <bazhang> pacs, packages.ubuntu.com
[12:11] <xander> Hi everyone, I can't update my system because download of one update archive gets stalled midway.
[12:12] <xander> The offending file is http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-current_280.13-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1_amd64.deb
[12:12] <abhishekpathak> xander: what is the error msg you are getting
[12:12] <jjp> Hi !
[12:12] <bittin_> Hi
[12:12] <xander> I've tried manually with wget and axel but no luck with either
[12:12] <xander> The error I get is "Connection failed"
[12:12] <abhishekpathak> xander: what is the error msg you are getting
[12:13] <xander> "Please check your internet connection"
[12:13] <abhishekpathak> xander: are you able to download the other packages?
[12:13] <xander> Yup.
[12:13] <jjp> Does anyone know which script or binary actually decide to force a fsck after a certain period or a certain number of mount operations without being checked ?
[12:13] <xander> Even axel gives up on this archive.
[12:14] <abhishekpathak> you can choose to install selected packages only
[12:14] <makara> hi. i want to install LibreOffice on 10.04 so that it gets the updates. What to do?
[12:14] <abhishekpathak> do you use the update manager or apt-get?
[12:14] <xander> abhishekpathak: Already doing that.
[12:14] <noid> m
[12:14] <noid> m
[12:14] <xander> abhishekpathak: Update manager, apt-get, all of 'em
[12:14] <noid> n
[12:14] <noid> n
[12:14] <Pici> noid: stop that
[12:14] <FloodBot1> noid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:14] <abhishekpathak> xander: so just update all the other packages and leave this offending package alone
[12:15] <xander> abhishekpathak: Even a wget on that file in a terminal atalls midway through the download.
[12:15] <xander> atalls->stalls
[12:15] <abhishekpathak> it is most probably experiencing some problems with the ppa maintainers part
[12:15] <xander> I can update my system but unfortunately that package is the latest nVIDIA driver, which is a crucial part of the update...
[12:15] <pacs> Do you guys know where I can get support about Java? (Java Web Start, most specifically)
[12:15] <abhishekpathak> even update manager will use wget internally if its not in the debian repos as in a ppa
[12:16] <Pici> pacs: did you read what I said for you to do earlier?
[12:16] <abhishekpathak> xander: register a bug report complaining about this to the ppa maintainer
[12:16] <bazhang> abhishekpathak, ubuntu repos you mean, I suppose
[12:16] <xander> That's what troubles me. Why should wget or even axel stall midway on a package?
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> xander: you can always get other versions of nvidia and noveau drivers for the time being
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> xander: maybe the server handling the ppa is refusing persistent connections
[12:17] <xander> Anyone here can test download this package to see if it is not a connection problem at my ISP or somehing?
[12:17] <Pici> xander: I'm not having any issues downloading that here.
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> xander: or maybe the problem is from your network
[12:17] <xander> Pici: You've got the *whole* ~55 MB thing?
[12:17] <abhishekpathak> Pici: it seems xander's network is causing the problem then
[12:18] <Pici> xander: yes.
[12:18] <pacs> sorry, I hadn't read Pici. Messagens go away too fast in this room.
[12:18] <xander> OK. It's my network then.
[12:18] <xander> Lousy BSNL.
[12:18] <Pici> pacs: If you have the suitable packages already installed, then you can use sudo update-java-alternatives
[12:18] <abhishekpathak> bazhang: ubuntu repos, debian repos - potato patato
[12:18] <xander> Pici: Can you upload that archive to mediafire or someplace please?
[12:18] <pacs> Pici: aw, ok.
[12:18] <Pici> xander: I'll pm you a link.
[12:19] <elfranne> is there a way to specify a listenning port on a vnc viewer ?
[12:19] <Iamalinuxn00b> What is a swap partition used for and how big should it be_
[12:20] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b: swap functions as a RAM backup on the hard disk
[12:20] <bazhang> !swap | Iamalinuxn00b
[12:20] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b:  recommended swap : twice of ram
[12:21] <mockas> bitcoin-otc
[12:21] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b: however if you have 4 gigs of RAM and do not use heavy softwares,there really is no need to swap
[12:22] <elfranne> Iamalinuxn00b, swap partition = pagefile.sys file on windows , also called virtual memory
[12:22] <Iamalinuxn00b> abhishekpathak: I actually have 3GB of RAM. How big should it in that case?
[12:22] <Iamalinuxn00b> Because 6GB of a swap partition seems huge.
[12:22] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b:  do you use any heavy software which eats a lot of RAM?
[12:23] <abhishekpathak> Iamalinuxn00b: allot 1-2 GB to swap at max
[12:23] <xander> Pici: I didn't receive any link yet...
[12:23] <Pici> xander: I pmed it to you. Check your other windows.
[12:23] <elfranne> Iamalinuxn00b, unless you plan to use very big file, like Video Editing and Iamge editing you don t need a lot
[12:23] <abhishekpathak> xander:  lol.wierd situation you are in.
[12:24] <xander> abhishekpathak: Thank BSNL for that. :-D
[12:24] <xander> Pici: Just post the thing here please...
[12:24] <abhishekpathak> xander:  hmm...you in India?
[12:24] <Pici> xander: I'd perfer not to, it is on my personal web server.
[12:24] <xander> abhishekpathak: You betcha!
[12:24] <Iamalinuxn00b> elfranne: I think I'll keep use the same size as my physical RAM = 3GB
[12:24] <onil> how to delete a Oracle 11g database(ukgmdev) service from linux sever
[12:24] <onil> I want to remove the existing oracle database- orcl1 and want new service instead - newOrcl
[12:24] <abhishekpathak> xander:  Pici  http://dpaste.com
[12:24] <Pici> xander: send me a private message then and I'll respond.
[12:24] <xander> Pici: OK. Wait sometime. Thanks
[12:25] <elfranne> elfranne, should be more than enough :)
[12:25] <abhishekpathak> xander:  Where in India? :)
[12:26] <elfranne> about Swap : I got a server with 36GB ram so it asked for 72GB swap ... a bit overkill :p
[12:26] <Pici> elfranne: swap should only be more than ram if you plan to hibernate or if you have a low amount of ram.
[12:26] <abhishekpathak> elfranne:  lol.The icing on the cake would be to run nested joins on mysql on that involving tables of 10^6 or more
[12:27] <Olleh> i use 100meg swap on my 4gig machine.  It shouldn't be used as an extension of RAM.
[12:28] <abhishekpathak> Olleh:  yeah,the swap=2XRAM rule used to be applicable in 1 GB Ram days....
[12:28] <elfranne> Pici, on server it can saves from crashing when you got bad coders
[12:28] <Olleh> yeah, that rule is now obsolete.
[12:28] <Calinou> lol
[12:28] <abhishekpathak> elfranne:  still man, 72 Gigs ! :D :D
[12:29] <elfranne> abhishekpathak, it asked for it, i did not put 72G :p
[12:29] <elfranne> is there a way to specify a listenning port on a vnc viewer ?
[12:29] <abhishekpathak> abhishekpathak: just curious,how many people here prefer to use ubuntu LTS/xubuntu/lubuntu etc ...not unity
[12:29] <Pici> !polls
[12:30] <abhishekpathak> got it
[12:30] <abhishekpathak> !polls
[12:30] <abhishekpathak> oh.cool. (I'm new to IRC)
[12:30] <elfranne> ah :p
[12:36] <DerekOakley> Hi, is it possible to access a share using samba with a system user
[12:36] <DerekOakley> I've tried given it a password with passwd and smbpasswd
[12:38] <gugugaga> have any of you having this problem ? when log in , suddenly the ui change to custom and all these appear "classic" window look
[12:41] <gugugaga> anyone here ?
[12:42] <auberj> hi!
[12:42] <auberj> IRC confuses me so much! just got xchat on joliOS
[12:43] <abhishekpathak> auberj:  Hello.
[12:45] <compdoc> DerekOakley, what do you mean a system user?
[12:49] <gugugaga> why ubuntu gui auto change to custom when ubuntu classic is selectted ?
[12:51] <Gibby> I am on 10.04, virt-manager is at 8.2.... is there a repo for newer versions of virt-manager?
[12:51] <cmr> is it possible to disable reboot, so that even the administrator of the system cannot reboot the system?
[12:51] <iceroot_> cmr: no
[12:52] <iceroot_> cmr: there are so many ways to trigger a reboot, you cant disable that. also there is nothing higher then root, how should enable the reboot-feature again?
[12:52] <cmr> iceroot_, ah. point :)
[12:52] <compdoc> virt-manager 0.8.6 on Natty
[12:52] <cmr> iceroot_, well, but is there a way to disable the "reboot" command, short of removing the binary?
[12:53] <ubuntu_> leszek
[12:53] <iceroot_> cmr: what about "init 6", "shutdown -r now" and so on?
[12:53] <iceroot_> cmr: also there are some files in /proc where you can pipe a "1" inside to reboot
[12:53] <iceroot_> cmr: ctrl + alt + del
[12:54] <iceroot_> cmr: magic syskey and so on
[12:54] <ubuntu_> Does anybody know that if I install Ubuntu I will have to create disk partitions myself?
[12:56] <ani> Hi,I am using Ubuntu 10.04,and trying to run iReport sh file from terminal.and getting "java.awt.HeadlessException".
[12:56] <cmr> iceroot_, those are less of a problem. soon, I won't have physical access to the system. shutting down the system would thus be idiotic. I _might_ get caught in a moment and try to reboot the machine from remote though, and this box has the peculiarity that it will lock up soon after rebooting.
[12:56] <ani> How could I solve this?
[12:57] <rumpe1> ubuntu_, you can also use existing (free) partitions for ubuntu
[12:57] <fu86> hi
[12:57] <kevin___> i try to connect wirelessly to my router, i get the list of connections available and when i click mine and put the password in it connects but i cant get internet, any ideas why? its BT homehub2
[12:58] <ani> I have paste the exception in dpaste.please follow the url "http://dpaste.com/602495/"
[12:58] <wolfric> Is it possible to record when you lock your screen?
[12:59] <iceroot_> cmr: only root can do a reboot and every user which have sudo rights to that command
[12:59] <iceroot_> cmr: so think about a good roles in your scenario instead of removing binarys
[12:59] <davro> Ubuntu does not support chmod +a : invalid mode: `+a' guess I will have to install and setup acl
[13:00] <iceroot_> davro: what should chmod +a do?
[13:01] <davro> iceroot_ all three user, group, others, is the same as ugo
[13:01] <rumpe1>  davro you mean a+
[13:01] <cmr> iceroot_, I'm the sole administrator of this box. disabling the reboot command would be a way of preventing temporary confusion to cause problems :)
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: and remove the init command and remove the shutdown command
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: maybe also the restart command
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: you see, your idea is useless
[13:02] <sabeur> salut
[13:02] <iceroot_> cmr: just dont give other users root access
[13:03] <iceroot_> cmr: also when others have root access there can be bigger problems then rebooting a machine
[13:03] <rix1234> How to enable a smart card on linux. i am using Aladdin etoken 72K, can anyone plz help me...
[13:03] <pinoyoragon> My 11.04 is behaving erratically. When it boots, the screen ots normal againblanks, when i restart the pc for several times (more than 3) then it bo
[13:03] <iceroot_> cmr: what about "halt, shutdown -h, init 0 and so on? what about dding sda with zero?
[13:04] <pinoyoragon> RETYPE(previous post with TYPO): My 11.04 is behaving erratically. When it boots, the screen blanks, when i restart the pc for several times (more than 3) then it boots normally.
[13:04] <rix1234>  How to enable a smart card on linux. i am using Aladdin etoken 72K, can anyone plz help me...
[13:04] <cmr> iceroot_, of course, I can't cover every case, just enough to make me realize the mistake of rebooting the machine. I think I know what I'll do instead. binaries in /usr/local/bin will override those in /usr/bin, right? so I'll make shell scripts in there for reboot and restart, that tell me to don't reboot the machine.
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: ....
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: no
[13:05] <pinoyoragon> This happened after i removed the Bumblebee program (for optimus support on nvidia)
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: as i said, its useless there is always one more method to reboot then you block
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: just think about a good role-concept
[13:05] <iceroot_> cmr: if someone has root-access then he can do everything
[13:06] <iceroot_> cmr: think about if he really needs root-access
[13:06] <cmr> iceroot_, I'm the sole user with root access. this is for stupid mistakes committed by _me_ :)
[13:07] <iceroot_> cmr: there are so many mistaked you can do as root
[13:07] <iceroot_> cmr: why do you need a root-shell?
[13:07] <Pici> cmr: Just avoid using sudo when you don't need to.
[13:07] <iceroot_> cmr: again! (and the last time) think about the role-concept instead of patching some scripts
[13:08] <cmr> iceroot_, I will think about the role concept. but I also see no harm in patching a few scripts, just in case.
[13:08] <davro> rumpe1 no +a so I can do something like this sudo chmod +a "www-data allow delete,write,append,file_inherit,directory_inherit" app/cache app/logs
[13:08] <davro> sudo chmod +a "yourname allow delete,write,append,file_inherit,directory_inherit" app/cache app/logs
[13:08] <rix1234> On which irc can i get help for working of smart cards on linux
[13:09] <iceroot_> !sudo | cmr
[13:09] <pinoyoragon> Where should i start looking into if my box(11.04) does not display anything after the grub splash during boot. But after i restarted the machine for 3-5 times, then it goes back to normal.
[13:09] <rumpe1> davro, ok... so you need acl, not chmod
[13:09] <uosiu> Hi all. I have ubuntu 10.04 LTS with upstart. I've added configfile generator for MPD into it's initscript. How to force to start mpd *AFTER* start of networking?
[13:09] <cmr> iceroot_, perhaps I could disallow my regular user from running reboot via sudo? is that what you're implying?
[13:10] <iceroot_> cmr: no
[13:10] <iceroot_> cmr: just dont type sudo reboot
[13:10] <davro> rumpe1 yup seems that way :|
[13:11] <cmr> iceroot_, I know that I can be terribly confused at times, and do terribly stupid things. this is to potentially prevent this particular mistake in the future :)
[13:11] <ani> Hi,I am using Ubuntu 10.04,and trying to run iReport sh file from terminal.and getting "java.awt.HeadlessException".
[13:11] <ani> I have paste the exception in dpaste.please follow the url "http://dpaste.com/602495/"
[13:12] <fppp> I wish linux hadn't turned into windows 95
[13:12] <jrib> fppp: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> fppp: it hasnt
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> ani: what java are you using?
[13:13] <ani> ActionParsnip: sun java 1.6
[13:13] <kingofswords> windows isnt in my boot menu how do i fix this?
[13:14] <fppp> ubuntu crashes all the time, a lot of software incompatibilities and general grief... I used debian unstable from 97-2005, at that time everything worked much better than either debian stable or ubuntu does know, for the past few years it has been progressively degrading
[13:14] <ani> ActionParsnip: I am using java version "1.6.0_20"
[13:14] <jrib> fppp: please ask a support question
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: try:  sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> fppp: if you don't like it, don't use it. The only person making you use it, is YOU
[13:15] <davro> cmr just put this in the users .bashrc   alias shutdown='exit'
[13:15] <zetu> hellloo
[13:15] <kingofswords> ok
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> fppp: this is a support channel only, not a bad mouthing channel. None-support topics are humoured in #ubuntu-offtopic as you have been informed
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> davro: nice :)
[13:16] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, nah still noit showing
[13:17] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, james@ubuntu:~$ sudo os-prober
[13:17] <kingofswords> /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain
[13:17] <mintie> I can't boot from a disc at all; my laptop skips whatever disc I insert and goes straight to Ubuntu, regardless of whether I select the disc or not. What do I do?
[13:17] <fppp> I guess part of the reason why stuff keeps getting worse is because a lot of people in the open source community never want to hear anything about anything wrong and instead always replies with something like "don't use it then" or "submit a patch"...  but yeah sorry.. I'll stop now...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> fppp: thanks
[13:17] <kingofswords> brb reboot
[13:18] <jrib> fppp: file a bug, but complaining in a support channel instead of asking for support with a specific issue is just a waste of your time and ours
[13:19] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, no still not in boot menu
[13:21] <kingofswords> anyone else got ideas why windows isnt in my boot menu
[13:24] <fmauro> kingofswords: if windows is on a bootable partition and grub is working, update-grub should recognise it. But as that is not working I suspect there might be something up with your windows partition
[13:25] <kingofswords> fmauro, just reinstalled windows and got into it...but when i livecd grub install it i update-grub and now not there
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: you may be able to boot to the Windows CD, reinstate the windows bootloader, then boot to Ubuntu liveCD and install grub, should pick up the dual boot
[13:25] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, thats what i did but with fresh install of windows
[13:26] <fmauro> kingofswords: how did you partition the drive
[13:26] <kingofswords> previously to that i fixmbr in the recovery panel
[13:26] <kingofswords> fmauro, i didnt partition...i just overwrote my previous windows install
[13:27] <goldsniper_> hi
[13:27] <kingofswords> i edited menu.1st a while ago..maybe i messed something up in that?
[13:27] <dub54> hey, what command will list all open files?
[13:27] <goldsniper_> anybody here?
[13:27] <Pici> dub54: lsof
[13:27] <dub54> Pici: thanks
[13:27] <fmauro> kingofswords: yes k, post your menu.lst pls
[13:28] <kingofswords> ok 2 secs
[13:28] <goldsniper_> hi all ubuntu master
[13:28] <bazhang> kingofswords, menu.lst is not in grub2
[13:28] <goldsniper_> i 'm trying to figure out why my lap port no working
[13:28] <kingofswords> bazhang, maybe thats the problem
[13:29] <kingofswords> i may have create one
[13:29] <goldsniper_> LED is not on on my lan port
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> goldsniper_: does the lan connection work though?
[13:29] <ben42> hello, sommebody knows how to disable all the notification popup (finished download etc ...)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> ben42: in which app?
[13:30] <ani> ActionParsnip:what shall I do?
[13:30] <ben42> is it apps related or is it globaly disablable
[13:30] <francos-desktop> hi
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ani: not sure, just wanted to get the java version into the details.Not something I use
[13:30] <kingofswords> fmauro, http://pastebin.com/mrQwqQGu i think i pasted the 1st 3 lines from a tutorial maybe thats problem
[13:30] <ben42> ActionParsnip, oh apparently app-related well filezilla and firefox so far
[13:30] <ben42> most anoying
[13:31] <ben42> well i think i know how to disable it in firefox about:config
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ben42: you should be able to disable it per app, you may be able to remove the notify-osd thing but I'm not sure how ingrained it is in the OS
[13:31] <fmauro> kingofswords: if you are in fact using grub, then you should remove these lines and repeat the automated steps from before
[13:31] <ben42> ok, i'll start  with the apps then, thx
[13:32] <kingofswords> fmauro, ok ill try that...i also have a menu_back up file with just these 3 lines..can i delete this file?
[13:32] <fmauro> kingofswords: no need
[13:33] <kingofswords> fmauro, wont let me edit menu.lst
[13:33] <hiwk> how do I change start of week day in gnome calendar? (or whatever that dropdown menu is called)
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: there is no menu.lst now
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> hiwk: http://soniahamilton.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/change-first-day-of-week-in-ubuntus-gnome-calendar/ may help
[13:34] <kingofswords> i dont have write permission with menu.lst so cant delete it either
[13:34] <contrast> Greets, everyone... I've got some broken packages after trying to upgrade: http://pastebin.com/gtfHCFuY (methinks the most relevant error is on line 11). Any ideas?
[13:34] <dashavoo> What is the easiest way to setup whole-disk encryption post-install? (assuming that there is a way)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: if you prefix with sudo, you can do as you please
[13:34] <knapper_tech> can i modify etc hosts to point multiple domains to the same IP?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> knapper_tech: yes
[13:35] <gldsnpr> contrast : are you at the terminal
[13:35] <contrast> gldsnpr: yep
[13:35] <fmauro> kingofswords: you will have to be root
[13:35] <knapper_tech> ActionParsnip:   will multiple entries bound to the same IP "just work" ?
[13:35] <zykes-> anyone here know what files are used for what in ubuntu 8.04 regarding nscd and ldap ?
[13:35] <kingofswords> ok
[13:36] <MrNibbles> hey everyone
[13:36] <MrNibbles> is there a good alternative to Charles for re-directing external web resources to local?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> knapper_tech: sure, the system will simply resolve the name using the hosts file as it takes precedence over the other name resolve methods and find the name, then resolve it to othe IP
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> knapper_tech: the fact it is the same as something else is not an issue, it will simply be resolved
[13:37] <gldsnpr> anybody can help me with my laptop disabled lan port, please query me
[13:38] <knapper_tech> thx
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> gldsnpr: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; sudo rfkill list
[13:38] <kingofswords> ok edited file and repeated steps ActionParsnip told me but still not showing
[13:39] <fmauro> kingofswords: have you by chance installed grub beside grub2?
[13:39] <kingofswords> fmauro,  erm i dont know how would i tell?
[13:40] <fmauro> kingofswords: you didn't if you didn't explicitly download it
[13:40] <contrast> fmauro: you probably already answered this, but i just came in - which release of ubuntu are you using?
[13:40] <kingofswords> fmauro, ah i do have 2 grub folders.../boot/grub/menu.lst and then /boot/boot/....
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:40] <contrast> hey BluesKaj
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> gldsnpr: use a pastebini to host
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hi contrast
[13:41] <contrast> BluesKaj: think you could help me out with some broken packages? http://pastebin.com/gtfHCFuY
[13:41] <gldsnpr_> i got dc again
[13:41] <kingofswords> is grub.cfg replacemnt for menu.lst in grub 2?
[13:41] <contrast> kingofswords: yep
[13:42] <MacIsInteresting> Does anyone know of an exact replica of the Mac OSX dock theme for Docky?
[13:42] <arvut> hi, what can I do if I get this error when I try to launch neverwinter nights; http://pastebin.com/tg7S8D0k (I installed just fine under ubuntu 11.04 and I did fixinstall and everything passed)
[13:42] <contrast> kingofswords: actually, no, sorry. /etc/default/grub is the replacement for menu.lst
[13:42] <kingofswords> so can i just delete menu/lst?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> ok contrast , do you have synaptic installed?
[13:43]  * arvut gonna ask the same thing in #linux
[13:43] <kingofswords> right so any ideas now as to get windows back?
[13:44] <contrast> kingofswords: well, if menu.lst and /etc/default/grub is on your system, it's likely you have grub and grub2 installed, so grub needs to be uninstalled
[13:44] <hiwk> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[13:44] <kingofswords> contrast, how do i do this?
[13:44] <contrast> BluesKaj: yep, already poked around in there without any success though... i'm open to suggestions though.
[13:44] <gldsnpr_> sorry, I got disconnected, i need help to find out if my lan port is broken
[13:44] <kingofswords> sudo uninstall-grub?
[13:45] <contrast> kingofswords: pastebin the output from "dpkg --get-selections | grep grub"
[13:45] <gldsnpr_> i tried most of the forum suggestion, but still
[13:45] <fmauro> contrast: couldn't it be possible he updated from a older release, so menu.lst is still there?
[13:45] <contrast> fmauro: that's what i was thinking, hence me asking what release he's using ;)
[13:46] <BluesKaj> contrast, did you check synaptic, edit, fix broken packages ?
[13:46] <Jonii> Does anyone know if Ubuntu has a media player that plays mkv files properly?
[13:46] <bazhang> mplayer Jonii
[13:46] <Jonii> I'm thinking I should try running Media Player Classic using WinE, but I'd like a native program if possible
[13:46] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/bAv2FFhZ
[13:46] <Jonii> mplayer doesn't work
[13:46] <helo> i'm trying to cross-compile a package for arm, and pdebuild-cross is erroring out with "pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.16.0~ubuntu4) but <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 is installed."
[13:46] <hiwk> Jonii: why doesn't mplayer work?
[13:46] <contrast> BluesKaj: just tried it, it applied no changes... it's not showing anything under the Broken filter anyway though.
[13:46] <bazhang> Jonii, then install the codecs, it works great
[13:47] <kingofswords> fmauro, contrast it was fresh install of 10.04 lts
[13:47] <Jonii> I really don't know. All I know is that it doesn't play most mkv files I have properly
[13:47] <Jonii> bazhang, I have codecs installed
[13:47] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/bAv2FFhZ
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: do you have w32codecs installed (I assume 32bit OS)
[13:47] <Jonii> 64bit os
[13:47] <jrib> Jonii: mkv is just a container
[13:47] <bazhang> Jonii, which ones
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: then w64codecs
[13:47] <OneSquared> J'ai un message dans la console d'eclipse qui me dit : Error type 3.
[13:47] <OneSquared> Quelqu'un l'a deja eu ?
[13:48] <jrib> !fr | OneSquared
[13:48] <makara> i just installed Oneric Alpha 3 and its unusable. The graphics for Unity 3D and 2D doesn't refresh properly
[13:48] <Jonii> ActionParsnip: I have those installed, yes
[13:48] <OneSquared> Error : Acitivity class [...] does not exist
[13:48] <Pici> makara : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:48] <OneSquared> sorry
[13:48] <bazhang> makara, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:48] <OneSquared> Sorry bad channel
[13:48] <contrast> kingofswords: and pastebin from this: apt-cache policy grub-pc
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> makara: it's alpha software, what did you expect!
[13:49] <BluesKaj> contrast, ok, in the terminal , sudo dpkg --configure -a, then, sudo dpkg --clear-avail , then try updating again
[13:49] <makara> a release, of some sort
[13:49] <Jonii> jrib, well, yes, that makes it a bit more weird
[13:49] <jrib> Jonii: how so?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> makara: yes, pre-release, not ready, half made
[13:50] <makara> ActionParsnip: for what purpose?
[13:50] <kingofswords> ok
[13:50] <Feldegast> Oneiric release date 2011 october
[13:50] <contrast> Jonii: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[13:50] <Pici> makara, ActionParsnip: #ubuntu+1 please.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> makara: to get bugs reported to get the bugs out so it IS ready for release
[13:50] <Jonii> contrast, yes
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Pici: gotcha
[13:51] <Jonii> I'm thinking I should install Media Player Classic, but I'm wondering how to deal with codecs there
[13:51] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/8YhxYx7t
[13:51] <killown> After reboot, my unity doesn't work, it's starting the old gnome, how to fix that?
[13:51] <Jonii> Like, running MPC on WinE, and installing windows codecs using wine?
[13:51] <gnomeubuntu> hello there
[13:51] <Jonii> Does that work, and if it doesn't, how to fix it so it does work?
[13:52] <jrib> Jonii: mplayer works fine.  Can you give an example of a file you cannot view?  What codec does it use?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> killown: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace    does it work?
[13:52] <killown> Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: No valid GL extensions string found.
[13:52] <killown> Compiz (bailer) - Info: Ensuring a shell for your session
[13:52] <gnomeubuntu> i need help regarding to gnome3, here is my problem, am using ubuntu 11.04 upgraded from 10.10 so i was using unity then i install gnome3 but after i do that it wont login .It keep saying --- failed to load session "gnome"---- so i can only login through  recovery console and i type gnome-session replace after that everything is loaded but when i close the console window it terminate everything
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> killown: then you don't have 3D support enabled
[13:53] <contrast> Jonii: that should be completely unnecessary... pretty sure we can get a native player working... what video card?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: gnome3 isn't supported here
[13:53] <bazhang> gnomeubuntu, gnome3 is not supported
[13:53] <killown> Ok, let me check
[13:53] <killown> Thank you
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: nor do we advise you use it, nor is it stable
[13:53] <killown> I will fix it
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: in Natty by any stretch
[13:54] <Jonii> jrib, the problem is more like, files usually open somewhat well, but have weird playback problems that make watching them a total pain. This includes looping, crashing the whatever viewing program I'm using halfway through, randomly missing audio or video for few seconds every now and then etc
[13:54] <gnomeubuntu> ok thanks , but where is the right irc room for that
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> gnomeubuntu: #gnome possibly
[13:54] <jrib> Jonii: Can you give an example of a file you cannot view?  What codec does it use?
[13:54] <contrast> kingofswords: ok, and hopefully lastly: apt-cache policy grub-common
[13:55] <kingofswords> heh ok
[13:55] <Jonii> Just a sec
[13:55] <BluesKaj> contrast, any results?
[13:55] <kingofswords> contrast, http://pastebin.com/T7n1Zkxu
[13:56] <contrast> BluesKaj: no joy, but thanks anyway. :)
[13:57] <Jonii> VLC coded information says "codec: avc1" for this one file that doesn't work
[13:57] <konsumer> o/
[13:57] <contrast> kingofswords: ok, let's try this: sudo apt-get remove --purge grub grub-pc+
[13:57] <Jonii> I have no idea what avc1 is though, so I'm not sure if that makes any sense
[13:58] <kingofswords> contrast, ok just waiting for it to dl
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ok , contrast, if you already tried audo apt-get -f install with no results , then try this , sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[13:58] <BluesKaj> err sudo
[13:59] <kingofswords> contrast, omg it lists windows....brb rebbot
[13:59] <contrast> kingofswords: it may take you through some prompts. confirm that you want to remove grub, then point the installer for grub2 to /dev/sda (or whatever drive your installation is on)
[13:59] <contrast> kingofswords: good luck :)
[13:59] <kingofswords> contrast, Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[13:59] <kingofswords> Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1
[13:59] <kingofswords> done
[13:59] <usr13> Jonii: avc1 is a codec used by mpeg4
[14:00] <usr13> http://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_Features_Formats
[14:00] <oliviermo> hy  or bonjour
[14:00] <contrast> BluesKaj: sorry for questioning you when you're trying to help, but "force" makes me nervous-- that definitely won't break anything worse than things are already broken, right? :D
[14:01] <usr13> Jonii: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[14:02] <CyL> Hi, I'm running ubuntu as a vbox guest on a windows 7 host, and ubuntu doesn't seem to be going well after I installed the guest additions (it can't run unity and it can't get the full resolution of my video card, just 1024x768). Any advice on this please?
[14:02] <Jonii> I think it was 10.4 LTS
[14:02] <Jonii> It was x.4 LTS, that much I know. Lucid Lynx or something
[14:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:02] <BluesKaj> contrast, not that i know of , that last command saved my system from messy dependencies to flash a while back ..was able to reinstall it properly afterwards , but there are no gurantess
[14:02] <BluesKaj> guarantees
[14:03] <usr13> Jonii: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/454714
[14:03] <kingofswords> contrast, you're a god thank you so much it works now=/)
[14:03] <usr13> Jonii: Well there you go...
[14:04] <contrast> Jonii: you might have a look at umplayer - http://sourceforge.net/projects/umplayer/files/UMPlayer-0.95/xUbuntu_10.04/ . it's what i'm using and it plays pretty much everything... or vlc, which is in the repositories.
[14:04] <Jonii> usr13, so the next question is, does Ubuntu have a program that supports this?
[14:04] <contrast> kingofswords: glad to help. :-)
[14:04] <usr13> Jonii: Yea, just try another player.   xine or totem or mplayer or ...
[14:05] <kingofswords> contrast, so would that of worked without me reinstalling windows?
[14:05] <contrast> kingofswords: yeah... oh man, you reinstalled windows trying to resolve this? :-\
[14:06] <Jonii> Humm
[14:06] <kingofswords> lol yeh cant load gta4 now as result
[14:06] <usr13> Jonii: This is pretty old, but: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/230999-Where-to-get-the-AVC1-codec-to-play-mp4-videos
[14:07] <contrast> kingofswords: geez... well i guess now you know to ask around in here before doing something that drastic in the future.
[14:07] <kingofswords> contrast,  i have been for past 2 months and just going round in circles...
[14:07] <usr13> Jonii: as contrast points out, mplayer may do it, I don't know, but mplayer is the swiss-army-knife for video
[14:08] <contrast> kingofswords: sorry i wasn't in here then. :-P
[14:08] <kingofswords> contrast, was it just the last line that fixed it....im gonna save that to a gedit file for future
[14:08] <burg> hello. i`ve installed nautilus-open-terminal, yet i can`t see any menu for opening folder in terminal. do i need to enable anything else? i use ubuntu 11.04 with gnome2
[14:08] <contrast> mplayer should definitely do it, but the frontends for it are hit-or-miss... umplayer has been really solid in my experience though.
[14:08] <Jonii> Ok, I've been using VLC as a testbed, but if avc1 doesn't work properly on VLC, that's obviously stupid
[14:09] <contrast> kingofswords: well that line got rid of grub and installed grub2
[14:09] <Jonii> Mplayer had one specific annoying bug that relates to not understanding videos composed of multiple files, but now that I think about it, I don't remember having seen lag-issue on mplayer
[14:09] <BluesKaj> umplayer , contrast , another gui version of mplayer ?
[14:09] <kingofswords> contrast, so i dont need to delete anything now...such as menu.lst/
[14:10] <usr13> burg: I don't think you open a directory.  YOu may view it's contents but  to "open it"..?
[14:10] <burg> usr13, i want to open it in terminal (instead of opening terminal and writing cd /path/to/that/folder)
[14:10] <contrast> BluesKaj: yep, it's an smplayer clone with added youtube and shoutcast support... plus i haven't had *any* of the codec/mplayer-version-compatibility issues with it that i constantly ran into with smplayer.
[14:11] <contrast> BluesKaj: have you ran into any new pulseaudio issues since upgrading to kde sc 4.7?
[14:11] <usr13> burg: ls /path/to/that/folder
[14:11] <lvchenyu> hello
[14:12] <burg> usr13, you don`t understand. i don`t want to view contents. i want a terminal opened with location set to that folder
[14:12] <contrast> !hi | lvchenyu
[14:12] <contrast> !hello | lvchenyu
[14:12]  * Lint thinks that Chuck Norris can read from and unlink directories
[14:13] <BluesKaj> contrast,right, the mplayer gui versions never appealed to me much , been staying with VLC ..fits my needs well. PA is no longer in my system , causes me nothing but restricted options..alsa does the job
[14:13] <usr13> burg: Maybe I don't understand.  I've not use nautilus-open-terminal  But sounds like you need to create a luancher that opens nautilus-open-terminal cd'ed to /that/folder
[14:14] <burg> yes, that`s what i want. and 'ls /path/to/folder' has nothing to do with that
[14:14] <contrast> BluesKaj: the only thing tying me to pulse is the projectm gui (projectm-pulseaudio)
[14:14] <Pici> Lint: I think that offtopic comments belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <lvchenyu> 如何xp于lubuntu共存fat32
[14:14] <bazhang> !cn | lvchenyu
[14:15] <shbk> hello, I'm trying to compile simple module, but I can't because I need <linux/module.h>,  I've found this file in usr/src/   , it is. but I still receive error.   I've found two opinions in web: 1) says, I should only have linux-headers  2) I should compile my kernel.   as I understood first idea is wrong, because  I need full source code, to compile my module.  so I need compile kernel.  I didn't compile kernel yet, but I see that it's hard task.  have I right und
[14:16] <contrast> BluesKaj: tried "sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev" - http://pastebin.com/baPrhDxw
[14:16] <amin`> gentlemen I need a ranking between dwm wmii awesome?
[14:16] <oliviermo> i have a question for ubuntu developer . there is someone ???
[14:17] <bazhang> amin`, dont poll here please
[14:17] <bazhang> shbk, this is in vbox, correct? ubuntu or debain?
[14:17] <amin`> irt is not pool
[14:17] <amin`> i
[14:17] <shbk> ubuntu
[14:17] <bazhang> shbk, why do you need to compile the kernel for a vbox guest
[14:17] <amin`> want to install tilling windows manager and I want to know what is the best?
[14:17] <shbk> I 've  ubuntu on main machine, and under vbox both
[14:18] <Myrtti> !best | amin`
[14:18] <bazhang> amin`, try them, no best. dont poll here please
[14:18] <ikonia-remote> amin`: that's your decision to make,
[14:18] <arjunshayk> hello
[14:18] <shbk> because I want to compile such program : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5611254/linux-kernel-h-no-such-file-or-directory/5611293#5611293
[14:19] <shbk> and I think for vbox it 'll be more safe
[14:19] <bazhang> shbk, safe how
[14:19] <shbk> I don't want to lose my os
[14:19] <BluesKaj> contrast, projectm-pulseaudio , looks interesting ..btw I just thought of this ... sudo apt-get install --reinstall mesa-utils
[14:19] <shbk> unimportant,  should  I compile kernel to compile this module?
[14:20] <ikonia-remote> no
[14:20] <contrast> BluesKaj: same errors :\
[14:20] <BluesKaj> contrast, bummer :(
[14:21] <usr13> burg: Looks like you just right-click on a directory and choose Make Link (is what you are looking for).
[14:23] <BluesKaj> contrast, what about purging mesa utils ..it uses that libgl1 dependency ..maybe a dist-upgrade will repackage your repos with an updated version if you get rid of everything including the conf files
[14:23] <engammalsko1> Hi, I have a LAMP server but I also wanna connect to the files through a ftp. Can anyone help me? Is proftp good?
[14:24] <contrast> BluesKaj: actually, i think i got it, one sec...
[14:24] <usr13> engammalsko1: Sure. proftpd is good.
[14:24] <Jagajugue> Does the command /server work  your in pidgin?
[14:24] <engammalsko1> usr13: Ok, if I install it do I need to change some settings so the folder the ftp connects to is my www folder?
[14:25] <usr13> engammalsko1: I think vsftpd and proftpd are the most popular.
[14:25] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: I'm using Pidgin atm... Do you mean commands like "/join" ?
[14:25] <usr13> engammalsko1: Yes, but do you have multiple sites?  And multiple ftp users?
[14:25] <engammalsko1> usr13: Which one is easiest to install?
[14:26] <Jonii> How do I update my mplayer?
[14:26] <engammalsko1> usr13: I have one site and I only want to have one ftp user : )
[14:26] <Jonii> I installed umplayer, and it said mplayer was obsolete :/
[14:26] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: no, I'm trying to change to another server, so in google they say use the command "/server servername"
[14:27] <contrast> BluesKaj: ok, it was my fault... i'm using the latest nvidia driver (280) from http://ppa.launchpad.net/philip5/extra/ubuntu/ . purged nvidia-current, everything configured, then reinstalled nvidia-current and everything appears to be kosher now.
[14:27] <contrast> BluesKaj: sorry for dragging you through that; i appreciate your efforts though. :-D
[14:27] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: i'm newby in IRC
[14:27] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: Aha, I think you need to create a new account for every server.
[14:27] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: Or do you mean change room? Like "/join #pidgin" ?
[14:27] <contrast> Jonii: one sec...
[14:27] <usr13> engammalsko1: Here is what I do.  Just create a user for each site.  Have a www folder for each user's /home  Use symlinks so apache serves from each user's www folder.
[14:28] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: I'm new to irc too.
[14:28] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: no no, i afraid i'll have to create another account
[14:28] <Jonii> I think I figured this out. I used launchpad and package manager
[14:29] <usr13> engammalsko1: Even if you only have one now, this is the easiest way, because ftp user is automatically directed to  /home/user/
[14:29] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: i'll send you the link
[14:29] <engammalsko1> usr13: Hmm. I go back to you later when I'm installing proftp.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> contrast, np, these dependency problems are always a challenge ..seems I had one with the 280 as well , but I did the sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends after reading the logs and I managed to wiggle my way out tof that dep hell.
[14:29] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: Yes, one account for each server in pidgin.
[14:29] <jpmh> On  a brand new install of 10,4 I have two accounts - both administrator the network attachment ap shows in the panel of only one - why - and how do I get it into the other
[14:30] <usr13> engammalsko1: By default, httpd follows symlinks.
[14:30] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: ok then
[14:30] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: thanks! o/
[14:30] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: I hope I don't give you misleading information... but that's the way I'm doing it : )
[14:31] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: instructions*
[14:31] <contrast> Jonii: run this in the terminal: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:motumedia/mplayer-daily; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:31] <engammalsko1> usr13: Should I install gproftp too?
[14:31] <Jagajugue> engammalsko1: haha, no prob, if i discover something about this i pass to you
[14:32] <engammalsko1> Jagajugue: :)
[14:33] <contrast> BluesKaj: i'm sure it's due to the ~20 extra repositories i'm using (i'm usually good about keeping them disabled except when i actually need something from them)
[14:33] <gugugaga> why ubuntu gui auto change to custom when ubuntu classic is selectted ?
[14:33] <contrast> BluesKaj: i mean the fact that the --force-depends switch didn't work for me
[14:34] <usr13> !gpproftp
[14:35] <contrast> Jonii: any progress?
[14:35] <usr13>  Sorry, I don't know anything about gpproftp
[14:35] <Guest65951> Привет всем. Мне надо установить пароль на папку, Как это сделать ?
[14:35] <Reaper> lmfao yeah right
[14:36] <BluesKaj> contrast, ahh , seems you like a bit of bleeding edge in the multimedia area ...makes for interesting situations :)
[14:36] <s_enya> test
[14:37] <contrast> BluesKaj: indeed... where's the fun in everything working properly if you can't have the latest features and bugs, right? >=)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> contrast, :)
[14:39] <contrast> BluesKaj: btw, if you liked the looks of projectm-pulseaudio but don't find it worth installing pulse, you might have a look at qmmp and its projectm plugin. it's not as extensive as the actual projectm gui, but it still beats the hell out of any other visualizer around.
[14:40] <engammalsko1> usr13: I followed this and instead of creating the FTP-SHARED folder i used my www folder. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[14:40] <domi007> hey everyone, I have a expresscard to PCMCIA adapter, but it doesn't seem to work even when I load the pciehp driver
[14:41] <engammalsko1> usr13: Will that work? Do I need to forward port 20 and 21 too?
[14:41] <domi007> I guess it should create a PCMCIA 'slot' which ubuntu can see and all PCMCIA drivers can use, but it doesn't seem to do that
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I'm still trying configure simultaneous analog and digital outputs on my coax and audio line out . My Realtek ALC1200 soundcard is supposedly capable but so far no luck
[14:41] <BluesKaj> contrast,^
[14:41] <usr13> engammalsko1: Did you look at the date?  (2005)?  That is pretty old...
[14:42] <engammalsko1> usr13: oops no...
[14:42] <engammalsko1> usr13: Can you give me a better one?
[14:43] <usr13> engammalsko1: I've given my recommendation(s). If you don't understand, I'll go into more detail.
[14:43] <contrast> BluesKaj: i'm pretty sure i had that working with pulse at one point... i didn't think alsa w/o pulse was capable of outputting to >1 devices at a time like that?
[14:43] <engammalsko1> usr13: Ok. Can I we chat in a private chat?
[14:44] <usr13> engammalsko1: If you look at /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  you'll see: "Options FollowSymLinks"
[14:44] <BluesKaj> contrast, yeah, I was afraid of that :(
[14:47] <contrast> BluesKaj: you have any experience with audio over HDMI?
[14:47] <contrast> (nvidia)
[14:48] <h00k> contrast: go to Sound Settings -> Hardware tab -> Profile and change the audio to be over HDMI
[14:48] <contrast> h00k: thanks
[14:48] <contrast> kingofswords: welcome back
[14:48] <kingofswords> hi thx
[14:50] <contrast> kingofswords: want some help configuring your boot menu (e.g., changing the default os, removing entries for memtest/recovery, changing the delay)?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> contrast, my nvidia card insists it has audio capability over hdmi , but i can't use because my 8400gs only has dvi outs , so i use an adapter cable with dvi to hdmi , so if it did have an hdmi out I'm sure it would work, phonon devices shows them and the tests all work
[14:50] <kaka> l
[14:50] <route_3> I have my Django dev server running on an Amazon AMI (CentOs)...can I use SSH tunneling to hit the running development server on port 8000?
[14:50] <kingofswords> contrast, yeh sure that would be great thx
[14:51] <contrast> kingofswords: which one(s)? ;)
[14:51] <bazhang> route_3, how would ubuntu fit in with that?
[14:51] <route_3> I'm running Ubuntu, locally
[14:51] <BluesKaj> contrast, I assume you still run kde , or have that option
[14:51] <kingofswords> contrast, id like to delete the memtest  and other useless options
[14:52] <kingofswords> i mean useless to me...i only use windows and ubuntu options none of other stuff
[14:52] <nstridesout> anyone used ettercap before?
[14:52] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I have the launcher set to autohide in compiz config manager but it seems to want to stay visible.  Is there a way to determine who the culprit is that is making it fail?
[14:52] <contrast> BluesKaj: weird... i'm 99% sure dvi is strictly video-only, so if that's the only connection it has, i don't get why it's claiming audio capabilities... yup, still a kde man. i just wandered in here because of the non-kde-related dep-hell i got myself into.
[14:54] <contrast> kingofswords: ok, in a terminal: grep Windows /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:54] <nstridesout> my software center is not working. any help?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> yes contrast dvi is video only but the other end of the cable is hdmi , so the soundcard sees it as hdmi
[14:54] <kingofswords> contrast, do i just put # in front of ones i dont want listed?
[14:55] <contrast> kingofswords: nope, you should never edit grub.cfg directly; it gets generated by the options you set in /etc/default/grub
[14:55] <alecat> Hi
[14:55] <kingofswords> contrast, ok..so did that last entry put windows as default os?
[14:55] <contrast> kingofswords: did you want to keep ubuntu as the default os?
[14:56] <kingofswords> i dont mind either way
[14:56] <azous> bom dia
[14:57] <azous> Good morning. Is there a way i can get Outlook Messenger Linux version to chat with Windows version?
[14:57] <alecat> I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on a macbook. It's a standalone install, no more mac osx ! It works quite well except a veeeeeery long boot time. What can i do ?
[14:58] <contrast> kingofswords: ahh, ok... you can disregard that last bit then... so to get rid of the recovery option: sudo sed -i -e s/'#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY'/'GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY'/ /etc/default/grub
[14:59] <BluesKaj> contrast , this my audio devices list in phonon http://imagebin.org/169606
[14:59] <contrast> kingofswords: then to get rid of memtest: sudo apt-get remove --purge memtest86+
[15:00] <kingofswords> contrast, is it bad idea to get rid of mem test?
[15:00] <contrast> BluesKaj: ^_^ that's a lot of devices
[15:01] <contrast> kingofswords: getting rid of it won't break anything... and on the occasion you would actually need to test your memory, you can just reinstall it or run it from the live cd
[15:02] <kingofswords> ah ok cool....thx
[15:02] <BluesKaj> kingofswords, memtest is rather necessary and it doesn't use resources until called by you
[15:03] <nonent> I'm having a weird network problem since I upgraded from hardy LTS to lucid LTS.   i've got a network card with two ports, one local ip, one external ip, and for some reason, network replies switch ports after x seconds, and then switch back later. (ie, internal port starts getting stuff from external ip and vice versa)
[15:03] <contrast> BluesKaj: necessary how? (he's trying to clean up his boot menu) ... uninstalling it has been once of the first things i do on a clean install for years and i've seen no ill effects from it.
[15:03] <kingofswords> BluesKaj, isnt memtest on livcd?
[15:03] <contrast> one*
[15:03] <BluesKaj> contrast, yeah, there's alot of duplication there but I haven't bothered changing the list
[15:04] <nonent> any ideas where to look?  if i run a continuous arping on the external dev advertising the external ip, everything works, but as soon as it stops, the port starts cycling back and forth again
[15:05] <BluesKaj> contrast, well, to each his own
[15:05] <contrast> BluesKaj: i meant to ask after you pasted that pic: any particular reason you're not using the pastebin widget? it's one of the best plasmoids imo.
[15:06] <kingofswords> is it possible to get device manager from windows partition to run in wine in ubuntu?
[15:06] <kingofswords> i dont wanna reboot
[15:06] <contrast> kingofswords: i very highly doubt it... whatever you're wanting to do with device manager can most likely be done natively though...?
[15:07] <mbeierl> I'm not a linux newbie, but something has been confusing me for the past couple of months running on Natty: top, /proc/meminfo, gnome system monitor, etc, everything I can find to report memory usage are all saying that the footprint of the programs on system should total ~2g.  Yet the same programs are all saying that my total memory usage /without caches/ is 3.9g.  Cached comes to 100m.  What tool can tell me what is using the rema
[15:07] <kingofswords> wanted to see if i had graphics driver isntaled in windows
[15:07] <krux> you must buy lots of stuff at kingofswords LOL..
[15:07] <BluesKaj> I have imagebin as a bookmark , never heard the widget befoe , contrast
[15:07] <contrast> kingofswords: fyi: this is the place to look for program compatibility in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[15:07] <kingofswords> ahh yeh thx
[15:08] <sanesto123> Hello, is there a way to create an image of my ubuntu to be able to install it on another machine without reinstalling the softwares and redoing the configurations, thank you
[15:08] <contrast> BluesKaj: pretty sure it's in the default install of kde. might be in one of the extra packages though.
[15:08] <sysopwork> how can I change what virtual terminal ubuntu uses at boot?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> contrast, for text based I use pastebinit , for images , imagebin
[15:08] <bazhang> !clone | sanesto123
[15:08] <eugo> Hi I am trying to make a vncserver init.d script
[15:08] <eugo> why is it when i run> update-rc.d vncserver defaults 99 < that it actually makes the symlink as priority 01 instead of 99 ?
[15:09] <kingofswords> is it actually possible to open a program located on a different partition (asuming extensions work)?
[15:09] <contrast> BluesKaj: with the widget, you just copy whatever you're pastebinning as normal (text or image), click the widget, and it pastebins it and copies the url to your clipboard
[15:09] <sanesto123> ubottu: perfect, do you think ill have the config files or only the packages
[15:09] <contrast> BluesKaj: it *really* speeds up the workflow. i recommend checking it out. ;)
[15:10] <sanesto123> bazhang: thx
[15:10] <contrast> kingofswords: via wine, you mean?
[15:10] <kingofswords> yeh
[15:10] <contrast> kingofswords: and what extensions are you talking about?
[15:10] <kingofswords> or if you had a different ver of linux too
[15:10] <sanesto123> exit
[15:11] <Lint> is there any way to reduce Ubuntu's ram consumption?
[15:11] <rumpe1> sanesto123, if the hardwares are similar ... sure.
[15:11] <WoodyOSU> Hi I am running Ubuntu 11.04 on Thinkpad X61 and the computer won't resume when it's suspended or put to hibernate mode.  I have tried everything I could find on google nothing works.  Can someone please help me?
[15:11] <Lint> it's about 400 MB ram + 70 MB swap
[15:11] <BluesKaj> contrast, thanks for the tip
[15:11] <peekaie> Is it possible to set a Wifi Router to assign IPs via DHCP, and a gateway different than the router itself?
[15:11] <usr13> peekaie: Sure
[15:11] <contrast> kingofswords: WoodyOSU: are you using the latest VirtualBox?
[15:12] <contrast> BluesKaj: np :)
[15:12] <kingofswords> contrast, im just talking in theory..like if i had a game installed on windows partition and it was compatiable with wine..would it be possible to play it through wine/ubuntu
[15:12] <WoodyOSU> kingofswords: yes I am
[15:12] <rumpe1> sanesto123, won't work, if you switch from 32bit to 64bit or vice versa e.g. and maybe you need to reconfigure graphic card drivers
[15:12] <aeon-ltd> Lint: yes, don't use compiz, don't use unity, don't use gnome, do those you lose about 200mb on any other DE than KDE
[15:12] <ikonia-remote> peekaie: totally
[15:12] <usr13> peekaie: As long as the gateway is there and in the subnet
[15:12] <aeon-ltd> Lint: use just a WM you can easily get <60mb ram usage at boot
[15:12] <rumpe1> sanesto123, oh... no. switching from 32bit to 64bit would actually work i guess
[15:12] <azous> Good morning. Is there a way i can get Outlook Messenger Linux version to chat with Windows version?
[15:13] <usr13> Lint: YOu reduce ubuntu's RAM consumption by reducing what runs.
[15:13] <peekaie> Here's the thing. The gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, located on the roof, and I have a cable coming from it. I'm trying to assign <IP_ADDRESS> till <IP_ADDRESS> as DHCP. The IP of the router is <IP_ADDRESS> . But nowhere under LAN settings is somewhere to set the gateway and DNS server
[15:13] <Lint> but I don't need 'just' a wm, I need a usable desktop; and ^ is with bare xfce;
[15:14] <WoodyOSU> contrast: yes I am using virtualbox 4.1.0 on it
[15:14] <peekaie> All computers get IPs from DHCP, but the gateway is set to <IP_ADDRESS> (router)
[15:14] <Lint> LXDE has windows 3.1 fuctionality, so I don't want to use it yet
[15:14] <user_564> Can someone help me please...I'm having trouble with Google Chrome & Chromium. Even if I reinstall it stalls, but computer is fine. My problem is I did an update then removed something I shouldn't have. Google Chrome or Chromium starts fine....it's just when I get a search result from Google or Bing and the results include multiple sites under one site then it crashes..(Please Help)
[15:14] <ikonia-remote> Lint: you have to work within the limitations of your machine, if the desktop you want takes up 2GB or ram, and you have 512, you have to accept that's not going to work
[15:14] <ikonia-remote> peekaie: change the dhcp config on your router
[15:14] <contrast> WoodyOSU: there's the culprit, fix coming up...
[15:14] <aeon-ltd> Lint: heh no it doesn't, your application set defines the usability
[15:15] <peekaie> There's nowhere to set the gateway, except under WAN, which doesn't seem the right place to be
[15:15] <WoodyOSU> contrast: ahhh i see, awesome thanks
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> Lint: if you have everything you need all you need is a menu to access them and customization options then that is effectively a usable desktop
[15:15] <contrast> kingofswords: sure... if i was to try it, i'd probably just make a link to the game's install directory in my wine folder, so something like: ln -s "/media/WINDOWS/Program Files/Portal" "$HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Portal"
[15:15] <usr13> peekaie: Do you have the cable going to the gateway on the roof plugged into a WAN or LAN port?
[15:15] <peekaie> usr13 LAN Port
[15:16] <usr13> peekaie: Ok good.  That should work for you.
[15:16] <WoodyOSU> contrast: should I look for the fix in ubuntu or in virtualbox?
[15:17] <user_564> How can I reload the last Ubuntu update? I deleted something from the update which is needed.
[15:17] <contrast> WoodyOSU: got a terminal open?
[15:17] <WoodyOSU> contrast: yes
[15:18] <contrast> WoodyOSU: "sudo su", enter your password, then run this: echo 'SUSPEND_MODULES="$SUSPEND_MODULES vboxdrv vboxnetflt vboxnetadp vboxpci"' >> /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules
[15:18] <mbeierl> ok, I've closed nearly every program.  System monitor and top all report 2.3gb free, yet if I look at the memory usage per program and tally it up, it only comes to 850m.  Why can't I find the missing 1.3gb of memory?  What program can possibly be taking it up?
[15:18] <mbeierl> or, perhaps the question should be: what program/file can show me what is really using the memory on this system?
[15:18] <user_564> How can I reload the last Ubuntu update? I deleted something from the update which is needed.
[15:18] <azous> Hi. Im trying to usa Outlook Messenger on Windows 7 / xp and Ubuntu, but I cant make Ubuntu and Windows see each other. Lan is working, sharing files with samba. I can ping everyone and chat with it from windows to windows and ubuntu to ubuntu. I just cant chat from ubuntu to windows. Please Help me. Thanks
[15:19] <contrast> mbeierl: it's most likely cached
[15:19] <mbeierl> contrast: no, i've already taken that into account.  this is definitely not cache
[15:20] <Citizenwarrior> Ok I have used all my GoogleFu, the best link I can provide to show a simple example is this h**p://tinyurl.com/3qgyurs from a backtrack-linux.org post.  What I want to know is this, If I create an encrypted install of Ubuntu on a laptop with /boot on a USB drive so that is acts as a "ignition key" for my computer can I then store other items on that same USB drive?
[15:20] <user_564> Can anyone help me...How can I reinstall last updates?
[15:20] <WoodyOSU> contrast: ok ran it
[15:20] <venik212> anyone using MINT?  I have questions
[15:20] <contrast> WoodyOSU: go ahead and try suspending/resuming
[15:20] <contrast> user_564: what did you delete?
[15:20] <WoodyOSU> contrast: ok
[15:20] <bazhang> !mintsupport | venik212
[15:21] <kernelpanicker> No one's very active in ubuntu server... so, before I blindly follow the ubuntu.com instructions for setting up postfix/dovecot/mailman on a VPS is RimuHosting... does anyone have any advice before I start?
[15:21] <mbeierl> for those interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/674570/  <== report of memory usage on the system
[15:21] <contrast> mbeierl: http://chrisjohnston.org/2009/why-on-linux-am-i-seeing-so-much-ram-usage
[15:22] <lolcat> kernelpanicker: Get a dedicated server instead
[15:22] <user_564> I'm not sure...but it;s something that is needed for Google Chrome Or Chromium to work properly
[15:23] <mbeierl> contrast: as stated, i've already gone down that route.  this is not a "i don't understand how to read the stats", unfortunately.  This is real physical memory being reported as used, and not available to either cache nor other programs
[15:23] <contrast> user_564: which are you using, chrome or chromium? and can you pastebin the error you're getting from it?
[15:23] <kernelpanicker> lolcat: do VPS create problems?  I'm kinda locked into a situation here...
[15:23] <lolcat> kernelpanicker: no, but they are often over-sold. What do you pay for it?
[15:24] <contrast> mbeierl: sorry i missed that; trying to help ~3 people at once on here. :)
[15:24] <kernelpanicker> $50 or something... this is someone else's nickel, so I'm covered on costs...but I am worried about the technical stuff
[15:25] <bytesaber_work> so what's this new gnome replacement in 11.04 called?   HideAll?
[15:25] <WoodyOSU> contrast: that did it awesome thanks so much
[15:26] <user_564> It's very funny...for example: When I do a search in Google for Webup8d. The results are multiple under one site...then Google Chrome and Chromium crash...
[15:26] <kernelpanicker> wow... can't even raise the rimuhosting.com landing page... maybe they're the victim of their own technology... can anyone else get to rimuhosting.com from their browser... I'm getting pings but no landing page.
[15:26] <bazhang> kernelpanicker, how does this relate to ubuntu support
[15:26] <WoodyOSU> contrast: one last ? when the fix comes out will I have to undo this command?
[15:26] <contrast> WoodyOSU: it took me forever to find that solution when i was having that problem; glad i could pass it along. :)
[15:27] <kernelpanicker> bazhang: read back to my initial post, then read lolcat's response.
[15:27] <WoodyOSU> contrast: trust me I have spend the last 2 days on this so you are a life saver.  I would have never imagined it would be related to virtualbox
[15:28] <contrast> WoodyOSU: i would try commenting out that line (putting a "#" a the beginning of it) in /etc/pm/config.d/unload_modules after the next virtualbox update and seeing what happens... yeah, i was w/o suspend for ~a week before it finally occured to me.
[15:28] <azous> exit
[15:28] <lolcat> kernelpanicker: Didn't work, that is clearly a crappy host.
[15:29] <user_564> Geuss no one is smart enough for this one...
[15:29] <WoodyOSU> contrast: thanks so much, take care bye
[15:30] <kernelpanicker> lolcat: yep, lol... thanks for checking... I had a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on there... oh well
[15:30] <contrast> WoodyOSU: np, peace
[15:31] <user_564> How can I see what programs are required to run Google Chrome?
[15:31] <contrast> user_564: you still didn't give me the info i asked for which is kinda necessary to troubleshoot your issue
[15:31] <bytesaber_work> why'd they drop gnome?   to useful?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> user_564, why 2 versions of chrome for one thing .and your attitude could use some adjusting ..ppl here are trying help , not to prove how smart they are
[15:33] <lolcat> user_564: apt-get install chromium-browser will tell you
[15:33] <contrast> you read my mind, BluesKaj
[15:33] <bazhang> bytesaber_work, they did not drop gnome, you can use classic if you dont like unity
[15:33] <bazhang> !classic | bytesaber_work
[15:33] <BluesKaj> contrast, shh... he'll think I have the answer :)
[15:34] <contrast> hahaha
[15:34] <user_564> I'm not sure what I deleted...I did an update and Ubuntu installed alot of crap so I removed some files....chromium-browser is already the newest version.
[15:35] <user_564> Did "apt-get install chromium-browser" but still Google Chrome and Chromium stalls
[15:35] <bytesaber_work> i know how to get to gnome.  just wondering why they dropped it as the default.
[15:35] <contrast> user_564: you should never delete files outside of your home directory unless you know 110% what you're doing. just for future reference. ;-)
[15:35] <mbeierl> contrast: np, I am just confused by this and have not figured out what the real culprit is for my memory usage :(
[15:36] <user_564> I have Google Chrome and when I did an Ubuntu update it installed Chromium
[15:37] <user_564> Contrast: I didn't delete from home directory...I removed programs from Software Centre
[15:37] <contrast> user_564: ahh, ok... well that's good then.
[15:38] <BluesKaj> user_564, I'm confused why you need 2 different versions of the same browser ..
[15:38] <contrast> user_564: i would probably just completely remove chromium and chrome in software center, then install them again. that should bring back in whatever dependencies you got rid of.
[15:38] <contrast> BluesKaj: he didn't install chromium, it came in as a dependency of something, if i'm understanding correctly
[15:39] <LABcrab> Hello everyone!  Trying to boot Ubuntu live CD on my Toshiba notebook, but is seems to freeze.
[15:40] <user_564> It must be something to do with displaying multiple web results under a site....As I said I have Google Chrome installed and when I did an update Ubuntu installed Chromium. I did remove the packages and installed them again but still the same.
[15:40] <urthmover> What is a simple CLI tool that I can run to ping a host and if the time exceeds a threshold then I get an email?
[15:40] <CyL> Ubuntu is saying that I cannot run synaptic because it failed to escalate my privileges, how do I install software?
[15:40] <luigi> urthmover: You should write a script for that.
[15:40] <urthmover> I don't want to build out nagios
[15:40]  * BluesKaj is even more confused ..FF is the default afaik
[15:40] <Roasted> Has anybody used FOG to mass image Linux systems?
[15:40] <urthmover> agreed luigi  where do I begin  to do that?
[15:40] <urthmover> luigi: how do I script something that will look at time= and then react?
[15:41] <rumpe1> urthmover, use crontab
[15:41] <CyL> Ubuntu is saying sudo does not allow me tu run Synaptic! How do I install software in Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <luigi> urthmover: You can do it in bash easily. Use sed or grep or something to parse the output of "ping" and have it check the latency. You could put the script in your crontab.
[15:42] <luigi> urthmover: Ask in #bash if you'd like more help.
[15:42] <contrast> CyL: you're trying "sudo synaptic" from the command line?
[15:42] <urthmover> luigi: great  thanks for the pointers  I'll reach out to #bash if I can't figure out sed
[15:42] <CyL> contrast: nope, just choosing synaptic from the menu, but it asks me for the password
[15:42] <contrast> CyL: you're the default user on the system?
[15:42] <user_564> Can anyone tell me how can I just reload the last Unbuntu update
[15:43] <CyL> contrast: I'm the default user
[15:43] <CyL> contrast: the only user
[15:43] <contrast> CyL: can you pastebin the exact error you get after putting in your password?
[15:43] <CyL> contrast: sure, but it would be in my local language
[15:44] <contrast> CyL: ahh, nvm then. :)
[15:44] <Roasted> What's a good way to mass image Ubuntu installs?
[15:44] <maalac> Roasted: what do you mean mass image ?
[15:44] <CyL> contrast: but is basically says that I'm not allowed to run synaptic as root acoording to sudo
[15:45] <Roasted> maalac, mass image... as in... take 1 system, snapshot it, and using fog or ghost or something, kick it out to hundreds more systems.
[15:45] <contrast> CyL: but you're able to run other programs as root via sudo?
[15:45] <user_564> So I'm stuck with Firefox then? Unless I reinstall Ubuntu AGAIN...
[15:46] <CyL> contrast: what the hell, I tried to use apt-get to install the software and sudo says my user is not on the sudoers file!
[15:46] <maalac> Roasted: you mean real time? if it's not. you can use norton ghost.
[15:46] <CyL> contrast: what is more impressive is that I had just added my user to a particular group!
[15:46] <luigi> CyL: Reboot, boot with the "recovery mode" entry, type usermod -aG sudo <username>
[15:46] <Roasted> maalac, norton ghost is a bad joke. I use FOG for my imaging needs. Problem is I'm trying to figure out how to make FOG work with Linux clients.
[15:47] <Roasted> maalac, however, if I can't find a way to make Linux work with FOG, I'll need something else. I highly doubt Ghost would support Linux systems.
[15:47] <luigi> CyL: You probably removed all your old groups from your user by incorrectly using usermod.
[15:47] <contrast> user_564: erm, you (or the user management gui) must have accidentally removed you from the sudo group in the process
[15:47] <CyL> luigi: I had just realized that
[15:47] <alex--> Can't we make the install process faster, by letting the user type his user account details when the install is busy?
[15:47] <contrast> Roasted: have you checked out clonezilla?
[15:47] <CyL> luigi: I forgot to pass the apend option to usermod
[15:48] <Roasted> contrast, yeah. Clonezilla LIVE is super nice, but clonezilla server I never got working.
[15:48] <Roasted> contrast, I need something to do this over the network, like 30 systems at a time.
[15:48] <luigi> alex--: The debian installer is rather bloated these days, as is ubitquity. While that might be possible, who's going to write the code for it?
[15:48] <luigi> *ubiquity
[15:48] <alex--> bloated?
[15:48] <CyL> luigi: so what groups should I be member of? And how do I access the bott selection menu?
[15:48] <luigi> Roasted: I can help you with that.
[15:48] <alex--> luigi: What do you mean with bloated?
[15:48] <Roasted> luigi, you've used FOG?
[15:49] <maalac> Roasted: have you tried clonezilla
[15:49] <contrast> maalac: ^
[15:49] <Roasted> maalac, as I said, clonezilla live, yes. clonezilla server, never got it working.
[15:49] <user_564> Contrast: No...I removed something that Uubntu installed from the last update...now Google Chrome or Chromium is not working. It's got to be displaying HTML5 results that crashes the program
[15:49] <luigi> Roasted: Set up a PXE boot server on your lan that points to an install image of ubuntu or whatever that's set to use the preseed file you've used in your installer.
[15:49] <luigi> Roasted: All the clients will install automatically.
[15:49] <Roasted> luigi, that's pretty much what FOG does.
[15:49] <luigi> No need to reimage, though.
[15:49] <Roasted> luigi, problem is, I'm getting corrupt FS errors when I try toupload the image via fog.
[15:50] <luigi> You shouldn't be reimaging.
[15:50] <luigi> You should be installing with the debian installer.
[15:50] <Roasted> I need to upload the image first...
[15:50] <Roasted> then I deploy it to the clients...
[15:50] <luigi> alex--: Take a look at the source for ubiquity.
[15:50] <luigi> Roasted: You don't use an image EVER with what I'm saying.
[15:50] <Roasted> there are customizations I have on these images for our students that a "debian installer" cannot do. So I set it up exactly the way I need.
[15:50] <Roasted> luigi, and I'm telling you that's what I need to do.
[15:50] <luigi> Roasted: Define these customizations.
[15:51] <Roasted> I need to set up a system the way I need. snapshot it. and then deploy it.
[15:51] <alex--> luigi: Can't we put this screen when it's installing ubuntu?: For best results; Download updates while installing; Install this third-party software
[15:51] <luigi> Roasted: Oh, I know a utility for that. Remastersys
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, shortcuts to network shares on every desktop by setting the default profile, specific printer settings and installation, etc.
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, well that just creates a custom ISO, right?
[15:51] <alex--> luigi: Like the timezone screen is
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, I was hoping to bypass that and automate the installation to these systems. After all, we're talking a potential of thousands of systems here.
[15:51] <luigi> Roasted: Yes, and that custom ISO is a perfect snapshot of the system you run it on.
[15:51] <Roasted> luigi, I'd rather be able to do them in batches of 30 over the network instead of using a custom ISO for each. individual. system. :(
[15:51] <luigi> Roasted: The automation happens with a preseed and PXE.
[15:51] <contrast> i don't have software center installed atm; does anyone know if it has a history feature like synaptic?
[15:52] <Roasted> luigi, oh so I dont just burn the ISO to a CD or whatever?
[15:52] <user_564> Can anyone help me pleeeease?
[15:52] <jrib> user_564: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[15:53] <luigi> Roasted: No. You make the remastersys ISO, tweak it with debian-preseed so the installer runs automatically, then set up a PXE server to host that image.  Do you have a guide for something like this?
[15:53] <luigi> alex--: Write the code for it, then.
[15:53] <Roasted> luigi, the only "pxe server" I've set up was FOG, whcih is pretty automated.
[15:53] <alex--> luigi: I can't
[15:53] <luigi> alex--: Then don't act as if it's a simple thing to do.
[15:54] <user_564> what Java software is required to run Google Chrome or Chromium?
[15:54] <alex--> luigi: for programmers it is
[15:54] <luigi> alex--: You're not a programmer, are you?
[15:54] <contrast> user_564: do you have "sun-java6-plugin" installed?
[15:54] <alex--> luigi: no
[15:54] <luigi> alex--: Then don't act like one.
[15:54] <user_564> How can I check that it the terminal?
[15:54] <alex--> I dont act like one
[15:54] <alex--> I just want these things in ubuntu
[15:55] <Roasted> alex--, you want things in ubuntu that you cannot/will not contribute to building?
[15:55] <contrast> i love how people assume programmers are magical wizards that can just whip up any solution with minimal time and effort.
[15:55] <Roasted> contrast, GASP. they're not?!
[15:55] <contrast> ;)
[15:55] <user_564> Yes sun-java6-plugin is installed to latest version
[15:55] <luigi> Roasted: These three guides should help. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 (For setting up PXE.) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html (For making the remastersys image) http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/tmp/en.i386/apb.html (For preseed set up)
[15:56] <Roasted> luigi, I wonder if I can set these up in tandem with my FOG server, which is already on Ubuntu 10.04.
[15:56] <alex--> Roasted: i can give idea's
[15:56] <alex--> Is there btw any way to customize Unity?
[15:56] <Roasted> luigi, it'd be nice ifmy image ideas ran in dual mode - FOG + Preseed.
[15:56] <Myrtti> alex--: this isn't really a place for them, if you want that feedback to be heard then please file it to Launchpad
[15:56] <user_564> What else could it be?
[15:56] <ikonia-remote> alex--: define customise
[15:56] <alex--> ikonia-remote: place it in bottom or hide some bars
[15:57] <luigi> Roasted: I would scrap FOG at the moment and follow the guides here that work. :P I have no experience with fog, so I can't really help you there. I do have experience with those other three, however.
[15:57] <alex--> or place upper bar in left down corner
[15:57] <luigi> Roasted: Honestly though, automated clonezilla installs would work too.
[15:57] <Roasted> luigi, eh. I <3 fog. since we're a dual environment I'll still need FOG for windows. it'd just be nice if I could do this from the same server.
[15:57] <contrast> user_564: to see if a package is installed: "apt-cache policy <package>" (that shows the availble versions and which, if any, are installed) or "dpkg --get-selections | grep <package>"
[15:57] <Roasted> luigi, via CZ server?
[15:57] <luigi> Roasted: I don't know, I've only used CZ manually before.
[15:58] <user_564> sun-java6-plugin is installed to latest version!
[15:58] <luigi> Roasted: What you're trying to do is similar to deploying an automated install over network. Those guides are how it's typically done. If you want to use FOG for this, go ahead, but don't expect much help. ;)
[15:58] <contrast> alex--: i think i saw an article for a unity customization program on http://omgubuntu.co.uk , you might have a look on there
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, well FOG has a "linux" option, but it's just being a brat. FOG is easily the best. thing. ever. for imaging Windows systems. I was just hoping to utilize the same app for it.
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, but if I can do the job with another alternative, I'll do it.
[15:59] <luigi> Roasted: Best of luck =D
[15:59] <R-088> Hello Ubuntu channels
[15:59] <user_564> I get this error: flashplugin-nonfree : Depends: flashplugin-installer but it is not going to be installed.
[15:59] <iamaham> Greetings anyone know what would cause lpr -o Options to no longer work, but they work fine under Windows when selecting them? namely punch and staple
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, ultimately, I could PXE boot systems on a local LAN and thereby crash them and have the system plop this custom image/ISO on the systems in question, right?
[15:59] <Roasted> luigi, I just want to make sure what you're suggesting will do exactly what I need. :P
[16:00] <luigi> Roasted: "crash" them?
[16:00] <Roasted> luigi, well, when I use FOG, it over-writes whatever is on the HDD and puts my image over top of it.
[16:00] <CarlFK> whats the device name of a 2nd audio device output?
[16:00] <Roasted> luigi, these systems have XP on them currently.
[16:00] <Roasted> luigi, when I do this I want XP to be written over with this Ubuntu image I'm setting up
[16:00] <contrast> user_564: now *there* is some useful output. which release of ubuntu are you on?
[16:00] <luigi> Roasted: You'll PXE boot the systems, and they'll install an exact copy of the remastersys environment by wiping the hard drive first *if* you set that option in the debian installer.
[16:01] <iamaham> any tips
[16:01] <user_564> Ubuntu 10.10
[16:01] <Roasted> luigi, I see. so it sounds like it'll work in a similar fashion. I'll keep reading and use my laptop as a guinea pig for this test setup. thanks a lot bro.
[16:01] <luigi> Roasted: Basically, you run the debian installer once with the options you want all the other systems yo use.
[16:01] <luigi> Roasted: No problem. Good luck!
[16:02] <R-088> If anyone here is familiar with DNS and ubuntu server I have a few questions.
[16:02] <iamaham> Here are the printer options
[16:02] <iamaham> http://pastebin.com/hCd240gp
[16:02] <iamaham> and here is the command I use to use to print punch:
[16:02] <iamaham> lpr -POffice_Sharp -o OutputBin=Output1 -o ARPunch=True -r
[16:02] <usr13> user_564: apt-get -f install
[16:02] <contrast> user_564: can you pastebin the output from this command: dpkg --get-selections | grep flash
[16:02] <usr13> user_564: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:03] <iamaham> Output1 being the finisher that does the punch/stapling
[16:03] <luigi> R-088: I am. Go ahead and ask.
[16:03] <luigi> R-088: Though you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:03] <usr13> user_564: Or, you can go to the software-center and install Adobe Flashplayer 10
[16:03] <user_564> Did sudo apt-get -f install (No upgrade)
[16:04] <user_564> dpkg --get-selections | grep flash (Shows ALL INSTALLED)
[16:04] <kaiyin> how do i disable my notebook keyboard?
[16:04] <R-088> Ok so I have a domain name from NoIp.com
[16:04] <contrast> user_564: "ALL" ?
[16:04] <usr13> user_564: Then uninstall it and get Adobe Flashplaer 10
[16:05] <R-088> when im outside my lan it works fine, i can connect with the domain name.
[16:05] <usr13> *flashplayer
[16:05] <R-088> I wanted to set up a way to use the domain in my lan
[16:05] <R-088> as of right on I have to type in my 192... Private address
[16:05] <contrast> the thing is, chrome uses its own version of flashplugin, so it shouldn't be affected by the seperate flashplugin package regardless
[16:06] <bluelamp> i have a question regarding self resetting permissions .. even logged in as root, i am unable to "have sufficient access" to alter file permissions "
[16:06] <user_564> I have Adobe Flashplayer 10 Installed
[16:07] <bluelamp> when i change them, the check-box or what ever will change itself back before i can even clock "ok"
[16:07] <bluelamp> any takers ?
[16:07] <usr13> R-088: Be patient. Sometimes it takes a while for nameservers to get updated info.
[16:07] <luigi> R-088: What's the ouput of "nslookup <your domain name>"?
[16:08] <contrast> user_564: have you tried moving your chrome user data folder and seeing how it does with a clean profile? (you should have a folder like ~/.chrome, ~/.google/chrome, ~/.config/chrome or ~/.config/google/chrome - try renaming it to chrome-OLD)
[16:08] <RyanP> I'm trying to run the OpenOffice document converter wizard under Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm getting the message 'Sorry, Filesystem Problem', and the script debugger starts. This worked fine yesterday. Any idea what causes this?
[16:08] <yang_> hi, is someone who used libcurl?
[16:09] <bluelamp> file permissions under root didn't seem like a difficult question.. is it ?
[16:09] <usr13> user_564: Restart your browser
[16:09] <dhenson714> got a pretty simple issue if anyone's free to help out. i need a bit of advice on wireless connectivity, but i can't find anyone else who's had the same issue
[16:09] <user_564> I delete all the data in those folders but still the same...Should I try renaming it still?
[16:09] <yang_> Or someone who dumped a lib to source code level based on ubuntu? I need some help.
[16:10] <luigi> dhenson714: Just go ahead and ask!
[16:10] <dhenson714> my internet typically doesnt connect unless my computer charger is plugged in. ever heard about this happening?
[16:10] <contrast> user_564: if you already tried deleting it and got the same problem on a clean chrome profile, then no
[16:11] <jpmh> I set up two accounts - the nm-applet shows in one and not the other - why and how do I get it to show in both
[16:11] <contrast> dhenson714: not particularly, though i've known of certain bioses switching off the wireless until it's actually called for when running on the battery (to preserve power)
[16:11] <user_564> It must be something I deleted...It's works fine only untill I view certain pagegs
[16:12] <dhenson714> see, i got a battery power applet that has a bunch of battery usage settings, and i think that might be it. i had to when i upgraded to natty, but i dont care for the applet itself
[16:12] <bluelamp> dhenson714, sounds like a hardware issue. as in, your hardware has an issue. insufficient power can cause week radio strengths .
[16:12] <contrast> dhenson714: you might [very carefully] check in your bios settings to see if there's any way to disable that
[16:12] <dhenson714> it's fine when i unplug it though
[16:12] <dhenson714> it just has to be plugged in to connect initially
[16:12] <user_564> Google Chrome and Chromium stalls at the same pages
[16:12] <yang_> I want to dump libcurl from a lib to source code level, to use it. But after that, it could not work.
[16:13] <helo> anyone know why there's no /usr/arm-linux-gnueabi/lib/crt0.o, only crt1.o?
[16:13] <contrast> user_564: just so people don't misunderstand you (as i did), you may want to start saying "uninstalled" instead of "deleted" ;)
[16:13] <bluelamp> ok, so byting radio issues is easy whole root file permissions is difficult ?
[16:13] <helo> i'm compiling this package that is failing to link because of crt0.o
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> user_564: depends on the build you are using
[16:13] <dhenson714> i'll check the bios, but i honestly didnt think this was anything more than a weird fluke. thanks for your help, guys!
[16:13] <helo> s/package/tarball/
[16:13] <contrast> helo: have you tried searching for that file with apt-file?
[16:13] <bluelamp> i have a question regarding permissions .. even logged in as root, i am unable to "have sufficient access" to alter file permissions "
[16:13] <yang_> I think that could be the config file's problem. but i don't know which one to use.
[16:13] <helo> contrast: yes
[16:14] <jrib> bluelamp: be more specific
[16:14] <helo> contrast: there's no gnueabi version of crt0.o... only crt1.o
[16:14] <gex_83> bonjour
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: is the partition NTFS based?
[16:15] <javier_> hi! someone knows how to automatically download cover art in Banshee 2.0 (ubuntu 11.04)? thanks!
[16:15] <contrast> helo: sounds like the makefile is looking for an outdated version of that library. you *could* try downloading the package for the older version of the library from packages.ubuntu.com and seeing if you're able to install it on your current version, though this could wreck havoc...
[16:16] <contrast> helo: what are you trying to compile?
[16:17] <bluelamp> ok. the file systems that i am having problems with are ntfs and fat32. i keep eveyrthing on these partitions so that should i have to re-install, the main partition does not hold any important files of my own. this is a habbit from using windows ... protecting my files from MS's mandatory system failure feature. (C) MicroSoft Corp. [all rights reserved]
[16:17] <bluelamp> i have not attemtped changing these settings on the system partition
[16:17] <dsafds> irc.gr
[16:17] <Citizenwarrior> Ok I have used all my GoogleFu, the best link I can provide to show a simple example is this h**p://tinyurl.com/3qgyurs from a backtrack-linux.org post.  What I want to know is this, If I create an encrypted install of Ubuntu on a laptop with /boot on a USB drive so that is acts as a "ignition key" for my computer can I then store other items on that same USB drive?
[16:17] <contrast> user_564: sorry, but i'm pretty much at a loss... you might post your issue on the forums (with all relevant details) and see if anyone there can figure out what's wrong
[16:18] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: i can't see why not
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> blueamp: you cannot change permissions on WIndows partitions, they are too primitive to hold Linux permissions. Instead you set the access when you mount it
[16:18] <user_564> No other thing...When I plug in my external USB drive I have to wait around 5min or maybe 30min before it popsup. In Windows it works fine...NTFS partition
[16:19] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, thanks, what can i do to fix this ?
[16:19] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: i would probably make a seperate partition for /boot on there though
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> blueamp: when you mount it, set the access you desire
[16:19] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, when i mount them, i do not see an option for permision granting
[16:19] <user_564> It's a HDD
[16:19] <helo> contrast: qt3-embedded for arm
[16:20] <bsdfox> I just got a PC setup with 11.04 and the radeon driver has much better full screen performance (looks good..) vs the fglrx driver but the desktop runs really smooth with fglrx
[16:20] <bsdfox> anyone got advice on settings I should check?
[16:20] <Citizenwarrior> contrast does the /boot have to be the first thing installed on that drive or can I use a drive that already has shit on it also on your second point would i have to take any special steps to make a system pick the right partition to boot from
[16:20] <user_564> Nevermind...
[16:21] <bluelamp> perhaps it is a command line feature not easily obtained by a Graphic file manager
[16:21] <Lint> ActionParsnip, surely you meant the other way
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> blueamp: then you will need to use cli or add it in fstab to set the options
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> lint: what other way?
[16:21] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: shouldn't matter about the order, as the boot loader gets installed to the drive's mbr, not a particular partition
[16:22] <maya_> wow
[16:22] <maya_> so many people here
[16:22] <maya_> any chinese?
[16:22] <ikonia-remote> !cn | maya_
[16:22] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: so you would run the grub-install command and when it prompts you, point it to /dev/sdb (or whatever drive it is), not /dev/sdb1
[16:22] <maya_> thx
[16:23] <contrast> Citizenwarrior: of course, you would want to do that *after* creating a new partition where /boot would be stored, ~100MB should be a safe size
[16:23] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, here is an issue though. i have a installer for CaRMetal . it copy it to an 8gig SD and put the card in my asus eee pc  running xandros linux. the file will not execute. what file system would be good for my 8gig SD card that both versions of linux will find easy to handle ?
[16:23] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, this way, i can evade the major portion of this permission issue :)
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: how is that relasted to Ubuntu?
[16:24] <bluelamp> ubuntu is my main system. the asus eee pc  is a system i use at work in my free time there
[16:24] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip,
[16:24] <contrast> gotta go... peace and good luck, everyone
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: if you use it in both Ubuntu and Xandros, make it Ext2 based and it will be able to hold Linux file permissions
[16:25] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, perhaps i should be more clear. what linux file system is good for older and lesser variants of linux.
[16:25] <Citizenwarrior>  contrast thanks your covering all my questions... ok so I have a 32g pico drive in the mail, I am ramping up for a technology swap/upgrade however I am a few weeks out, if I take the new drive, make a 150mb partition for /boot to live on when I by my new system, then I can start loading the other partition with whatever I want.  Is my thinking right?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: they will all access ext2 and ext3 just fine
[16:25] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, thanks, you have been helpful . :)
[16:26] <randomseed> bluelamp, maybe it needs to be remounted executable or read write
[16:26] <Roasted> man gparted has been a brat in 11.04
[16:26] <Roasted> sits there and wont complete scanning my disk
[16:26] <Lint> ext2 is useless, being in permanent corruptrd state
[16:27] <Lint> ext3 should work
[16:27] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, am i correct in identifying the number as a version indicator and considering ext3 to be an improvement over ext2 thus choosing the later ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: ext3 is simply ext2 with a journal
[16:28] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, thank you
[16:28]  * bluelamp leaves
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> bluelamp: the journal gets written to a lot and helps maintain file consistency as well as prevent fragmentation. It will reduce the lifespan of a flash based storage
[16:29] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, good. ext 2 is the better choice :)
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> both have advantages
[16:29] <hid> Hi, I've just bought a laptop, what should I know concerning the battery ?
[16:29] <bluelamp> ActionParsnip, the eee pc 900 is 100% flash based
[16:29] <bluelamp> for file storage
[16:29]  * bluelamp is gone
[16:30] <randomseed> hid, check Google for recalls, especially HP laptop batteries
[16:31] <hid> randomseed: I found different informations who are contradictory
[16:32] <jpmh> I have a netbook with an internal mic - for some reason ubuntu is not showing it - or even the mic socket as options for sound input - how do I get them to show up
[16:32] <hid> they say I "should use the battery till it stops
[16:32] <randomseed> hid, contradictory?  What in content?
[16:33] <hid> and other saying it might deteriorate it
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[16:34] <akSeya> hello folks.. i have searched everywhere, but couldn't find a solution to my problem.. tftpd-hpa keeps timing out.. it connects OK, but I get time out if I try to get or put a file
[16:35] <randomseed> hid, a lot of that info is old. I would be more inclined to trust an official site concerning your particular battery.
[16:36] <akSeya> here is my tftpd-hpa config file http://paste.pocoo.org/show/464407/
[16:37] <randomseed> hid, read all the info you got with your laptop.
[16:37] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8rik6Yrm
[16:37] <JakeyChan_> hi
[16:37] <JakeyChan_> pipe question
[16:38] <JakeyChan_> ls gmessage/* 1>&0 | zip gmessage.zip -@
[16:38] <randomseed> hid, they should warn you about any bad habits
[16:38] <keyboardtalk> How can I force cron jobs to run when there are no users logged on?
[16:38] <Pici> keyboardtalk: They should always run no matter who is logged in.
[16:39] <JakeyChan_> I want to set stdout redirect to stdin and the let zip command read the stdin for the variable :)
[16:39] <JakeyChan_> ls gmessage/* 1>&0 | zip gmessage.zip -@ it is wrong ..
[16:39] <JakeyChan_> how to fix it ? :)
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: http://pastebin.com/vpRFAdtr   should be ok
[16:39] <Pici> JakeyChan_: #bash would be a better place to ask this.
[16:40] <keyboardtalk> Pici: they only seem to run when someone is logged in. I'm using the root crontab
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> keyboardtalk: cron as root and you can use su -c command username
[16:41] <Pici> keyboardtalk: Look at /var/log/syslog it should show when cron tasks run.
[16:42] <wesblake> Hi there! Could anyone help me with udev rules on 11.04? Or point me in the right direction? I have followed many guides for hours and it seems my rule is ignored still. :(
[16:42] <Pici> keyboardtalk: Perhaps your jobs are just failing if no one is logged in. What are they supposed to do?
[16:42] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: thank you - but why do I need that - clearly I can not test without a reboot
[16:43] <ScatterBrain> Anyone have a Latitude E6500 running 11.04?  I can't get the installer to run.  Gets to the point of showing "Ubuntu" on the screen with the flashing dots.  Then just stops.
[16:43] <keyboardtalk> Pici: backup scripts. Does someone have to be logged in for the script to access home directories?
[16:44] <Pici> keyboardtalk: No. Although... do these users have encrypted homes?
[16:44] <Roasted> ScatterBrain, no, but I'm on an E5500 as we speak.
[16:44] <Roasted> ScatterBrain, did you check MD5 of the ISO you downloaded? If it's a CD, burned at slowest speed?
[16:44] <hid> randomseed: i dont trust official websites because they dont give good concils. They wanna money so.... I prefer to trust  user experiences
[16:44] <ScatterBrain> Roasted: No, but I will now.
[16:44] <hid> thank you anyway
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: not sure, its just one solution I thought of
[16:45] <keyboardtalk> Pici: I think so
[16:45] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: LOL & ty - will be right back after a re-boot then
[16:45] <Pici> keyboardtalk: I'm not really sure what to do in that case.
[16:46] <Roasted> any idea why a flash drive wouldn't mount upon plugging it in?
[16:46] <keyboardtalk> Pici: should I just make a separate directory on the system for backup stuff?
[16:46] <Roasted> I see it in sudo fdisk -l
[16:48] <genii-around> Roasted: It's possible you have an fstab entry for the drive designation which has the noauto option
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> roasted: was it gracefully removed last time it was removed
[16:51] <genii-around> Other reasons thing don't mount: unknown/unspecified filesystem, overdue fsck, user attempting to mount does not have sudo rights
[16:51] <undefffff> is natty worth it or 10.10 is ok?
[16:51] <wesblake> Hi there! Could anyone help me with udev rules on 11.04? Or point me in the right direction? I have followed many guides for hours and it seems my rule is ignored still. :(
[16:53] <SaEeDIRHA> hello guys , i have two network devices with static ip address, but when both devices are active my internet requests goes very very slow , and i have to deactivate one device in order to fix it
[16:53] <RyanP> I'm trying to run the OpenOffice document converter wizard under Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm getting the message 'Sorry, Filesystem Problem', and the script debugger starts. This worked fine yesterday. Any idea what causes this? I have thousands of documents to convert, so it would be really nice to have this working.
[16:53] <crazyvash117> hi im having a problem with 11.04 its underclocking my processor and idk how to fix it
[16:54] <Ranseus> I need to install PHP 5.3.6 on Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS -- the best link found via Google (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11124386) doesn't seem to do the trick. Any other suggestions?
[16:54] <Calinou> damn
[16:54] <Calinou> I accidentally removed the xchat icon in the top right
[16:54] <Calinou> how do I restore it?
[16:55] <Reaper> find it in applications then right click on it and click add to
[16:55] <Reaper> desktop
[16:56] <Calinou> no, I speak of the top right
[16:56] <bsdfox> how can I find out what files a .deb installed?
[16:56] <Calinou> now, when I'm logged in to xchat
[16:56] <helo> FIRE!
[16:56] <phillyj> i'm trying to run the command "$sudo sensors-detect" but i get the error that I need to run the script as root
[16:56] <phillyj> whats going on? it doesn't ask me for my password either
[16:56] <Pici> bsdfox: dpkg -l packagename
[16:56] <aiju> what's the default root password after the installer times out?
[16:56] <Calinou> I don't see the top right icon, this means if I close the xchat window
[16:56] <Calinou> > forced to kill the process
[16:56] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: open the file in the archive manager
[16:57] <Reaper> Oh, got me on that one lol
[16:57] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: there should be directories in there, showing the paths that files will be installed to
[16:57] <padhu> Pici: try anacron
[16:57] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: ignore the DEBIAN directory though, that's packaging information
[16:57] <Pici> padhu: I'm jot asking a question.
[16:59] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: a .deb file is basically just the compressed files; installing is copying the files to the right places and registering it in the system, running a few tasks to configure it
[16:59] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: well - rebooted - no better the only audio input device is still: internal audio analog stereo
[16:59] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: I'm trying to figure out where flashplugin-installer put the binary
[17:00] <rypervenche2> aiju: There is no root password.
[17:00] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: the actual plugin is put in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[17:00] <jpmh> a new problem, since last boot, the first account which is supposed to be auto-login - logs in but then tells me that the login keyring needs to be ublocked - what is this - how did I create it and how do I get rid of it
[17:00] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: that directory is empty for me
[17:00] <Calinou> rebooted, it's still not ther
[17:00] <Calinou> and it gives a ugly space
[17:00] <Calinou> jpmh: you can't get rid of it
[17:01] <Calinou> deal with it, like I do
[17:01] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: are you sure?
[17:01] <jpmh> Calinou: not an acceptable answer - if I created it I can get rif of it
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: why do you need cron to help sound?
[17:01] <stealz> I need some help. I put conky in the startup applications, but it starts too soon, so it will be displayed for half a second on the desktop of the login screen, but not on my actual desktop when I'm logged in
[17:01] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: yeah. let me reinstall it
[17:01] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: try doing a search for the file libflashplayer.so in /usr
[17:02] <cbhl> jpmh: The password on your keyring should be the same as your account; when you set up auto-login, you bypass entering your password but the keyring still needs your password for unlocking
[17:02] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: I do not understand you question - why do you believe that I believe that I need cron
[17:02] <bsdfox> tensorpudding: I only see the 11.2 beta I installed manually
[17:02] <Exodus> bsdfox, if you're trying to install Flash, go to the software center and install it from there. The package name is 'adobe-flashplugin'
[17:02] <roue> hola
[17:02] <cbhl> jpmh: There might be a way to change the keyring password to be no password, but then it leaves all your saved passwords unencrypted on your drive (generally a bad idea)
[17:02] <jpmh> cbhl:  this was not the case till the last boot - it just logged me in - what changed
[17:02] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: maybe it's not installed then
[17:02] <tensorpudding> bsdfox: installing the beta might have overwrote the old one
[17:02] <Exodus> bsdfox, flashplugin-installer just runs a script to download the flashplugin, maybe it failed for you.
[17:02] <cbhl> jpmh: When you log in using your password, it automatically unlocked the keyring at the same time
[17:03] <cbhl> jpmh: When you login without your password, it doesn't have your password at login so it can't unlock the keyring
[17:03] <bsdfox> I installed from console and the file is there now
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: just curious
[17:03] <bsdfox> my flash performance is still pretty bad though
[17:03] <cbhl> jpmh: So it prompts instead
[17:03] <roue> I'm wondering how hostnames are dynamically defined. I have a virtual host that's coming up with a hostname like "ip-192-168-0-1" and I'd like to modify the logic that's determining that. Anyone know what script it lives in?
[17:03] <jpmh> cbhl - I was not entering a password for that auto-account
[17:03] <roue> (this is for 11.04)
[17:04] <Exodus> bsdfox, try installing graphics acceleration for your video card.
[17:04] <Reaper> so one way or another your gonna be putting in a password lol
[17:04] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: I still don't understand the question - where did your question come from - why do you think cron is involved
[17:04] <cbhl> jpmh: There should have been one, though? :/
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> roue: you can set the hostname in /etc/hostname and you will need to set it in /etc/hosts at the same time, or sudo will fail. Open BOTH files then edit
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> jpmh: I guss my wires are crossed :-$
[17:04] <jpmh> cbhl: no - there should not - there is a non-admin account that is supposed to come up with no need to log in
[17:05] <jpmh> ActionParsnip: LOL - ty - did you see my messgae then that the sound changes you suggested made things no better
[17:05] <ScatterBrain> Roasted: Thanks, it was a bad ISO.  New ISO downloaded, burned, and now installing.
[17:05] <roue> ActionParsnip - I need to automate this. I'd rather change it where it's being initially set. I want to find the code that's doing that.
[17:05] <CM904> Hello guys! quick, and probably easy fix.  When I have my corded mouse plugged into my laptop, how do i completely disable the touchpad. but when its unplugged, the touchpad re-enables
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> roue: the file is what is used to set the name dude
[17:06] <linxxu> is ubuntu 11.04 really worth the upgrade or the 10.10 is better?
[17:06] <CM904> 10.10 is much
[17:06] <CM904> much better
[17:06] <linxxu> cool
[17:06] <fowl> lol
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: there is no better, each has advantages
[17:06] <fowl> 11.04 has been flawless for me
[17:06] <CM904> if you are used to 10.04 or 10.10
[17:06] <bsdfox> Exodus: I installed fglrx and it seems fine. desktop is snappy and I can watch videos just fine in dragon player/vlc
[17:06] <CM904> your going to hate 11.04 D:
[17:06] <bsdfox> even full 1080p was working smoothly
[17:06] <linxxu> just heard the user interface is terrible in 11.04
[17:07] <CM904> that is what i HATE
[17:07] <linxxu> and things arent easy to find
[17:07] <CM904> about the user interface
[17:07] <Reaper> I dont use the new interface, I like classic better
[17:07] <linxxu> so came here to ask :P
[17:07] <CM904> no they are not. you have to do it terminal if you wanna be fast with it
[17:07] <fowl> linxxu: i thought that was GNOMEs fault
[17:07] <CM904> no
[17:07] <wesblake> Yes, Unity is not quite there yet, and slow, but in 11.04, you can still choose the "classic" interface!
[17:07] <CM904> its just, an awkward searching system
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxxu: you can switch to classic gnome if you want, unity 2d will replace it in oneiric (I assume you mean gnome)
[17:07] <linxxu> but its ubuntus
[17:07] <fowl> oh yeah dont use unity, its the sucks
[17:08] <tetsuo--> hello. im upgrading to 11.04, but the upgrade process is spitting out 100ś of warnings
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxxu: there are other desktops if you don't like gnome/unity etc
[17:08] <linxxu> i will probably download the image instead of upgrading
[17:08] <tetsuo--> warnings like these: Kon '/var/cache/apt/archives/libgudev-1.0-0_1%3a167-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb' niet installeren
[17:08] <CM904> its like going from a phone that will never break flip screen, can drop it in water, and then getting a full touch phone, its just really awkward at first, then you become much faster
[17:08] <jpds> linxxu: Er, why don't you just go and try it for yourself?
[17:08] <CM904> I do like how the applications tab on the side though, just try it for yourself I guess
[17:09] <linxxu> if there are many negative comments i wont download :D
[17:09] <wesblake> Could anyone help me with udev rules on 11.04? Or point me in the right direction? I have followed many guides for hours and it seems my rule is ignored still. :(
[17:09] <jpds> linxxu: Glad to see you're thinking for yourself.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> linxxu: so you want strangers to tell you how to think....?
[17:09] <linxxu> :D
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> scary
[17:09] <linxxu> :P
[17:09] <naveen_> naveen
[17:10] <linxxu> ok then i will give it a try!
[17:10] <linxxu> :D