[02:54] <Vlyn> Hey :-/
[02:54] <evildaemon> bodom You may want to look into mini.iso
[02:54] <Vlyn> Are you serious about Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity? O.o
[02:54] <evildaemon> If your going to install xfce you may as well go full custom.
[02:54] <johnjohn101> xfce is ok...  i ran xubuntu for 5  years
[02:54] <nvz> bodom: I spent about an hour with 11.10 long enough to find bugs in numerous gnome3 components and I ran away screaming
[02:54] <sandra_> nvz, what is being called the new gnome 2 ?
[02:54] <evildaemon> xfce
[02:54] <nvz> sandra_: xfce.. heh
[02:54] <jhtran> hey all.   does oneiric desktop have Xen dom0 kernel support or is it only ubuntu server?
[02:55] <coz_> sander_,   gnome 3
[02:55] <Vlyn> I just wanted to mostly switch to Ubuntu now. Then I saw Unity… bye Ubuntu x(
[02:55] <bodom> evildaemon: ty, but I don't intend to reinstall from iso
[02:55] <coz_> sander_,  xfce is only based on gtk  like gnome
[02:55] <Ibis> !botsnack
[02:55] <nvz> Vlyn: use ubuntu 11.04 natty and classic ubuntu..
[02:55] <coz_> sander_,  but the new gnome is definitly gnome3
[02:55] <Vlyn> Nah, trying Xubuntu now
[02:55] <nvz> or that
[02:55] <nvz> heh
[02:55] <hopstafarian> Vlyn, maverick wiht compiz works...as done gnome-shell with oneiric
[02:55] <jhtran> is there a  particular channel for ubuntu server?
[02:55] <jabagawee> i can't see anything when i alt-tab, but it works on 11.10
[02:55] <jabagawee> what changed in alt-tab behavior?
[02:56] <SetiAmon> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+question/169766 anyone else have this bug.
[02:56] <reisio> jhtran: probably #ubuntu-server; /msg alis list *ubuntu*serv*
[02:56] <bodom> nvz: yep, I'll give it a try. Ty!
[02:56] <sandra_> nvz, played around with the Xubuntu I really enjoyed it but had to give it up . For some reason it simply couldn't deal with something as simple as allowing sound to default to a USB headset.
[02:56] <nvz> nautilus and gnome-panel are horribly broken in 11.04 so anyone who says gnome without unity works in 11.10 is lying.. heh
[02:56] <Vlyn> sandra_: Ouch
[02:56] <jhtran> reisi, thansk.  do u know if oneiric desktop supports dom0?
[02:56]  * hopstafarian wonders how everyone feels about the constant release proposal..?
[02:57] <sandra_> Vlyn, Ouch is right , pity too I really liked Xubuntu
[02:57]  * evildaemon shrugs
[02:57] <KingSphinx> Can anyone help me get my font back? Installing Cantarell (GNOME's default) caused most of my interface fonts to turn to blocks instead of actualy font. Help?
[02:57] <KingSphinx> *actual
[02:57] <nvz> gnome panel is 100% unconfigurable and nautilus ignores most gconf settings.. its premature and not fit for use
[02:58] <durando> changing dash home anyone know how?
[02:58] <studentz> sandra after remove open terminal I reinstall it again.  I also keep the Desktop clean, without any file or folder. So far 5 hours and  I keep it alive.
[02:58] <nvz> works well enough to power unity, if you dont want to use that, dont use 11.10 or use something else like xfce
[02:58] <hopstafarian> nvz, agreed..so thought on a continuous release cycle?
[02:58] <Vlyn> I tried gnome with 11.10… it's awful and I'm still feeling terrible using it. The new options feel even more choked than windows…
[02:58] <robin0800> KingSphinx, use gnome-tweak-tool
[02:58] <reisio> jhtran: should; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[02:58] <jhtran> thanks
[02:58] <durando> i honestly thought that the developers realized what an epic fail unity was with 11.04....................guess i was wrong
[02:58] <nvz> hopstafarian: I think its kinda ridiculous.. but I've been a debian user for 12 years or more.. and I believe that stability is more important than version numbers
[02:58] <sandra_> nvz, is there anyway to run Gnome classic ie Natty in 11.10 ?
[02:59] <bodom> evildaemon: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will do the job
[02:59] <KingSphinx> I did, but that's not really my problem. The problem is that GNOME Shell itself won't display any fonts, not windows and whatnot (those are fine)
[02:59] <think> damn the unity lets all go to lxde
[02:59] <nvz> sandra_: yeah its doable, its just that its not working entirely.. gnome-panel is totally unconfigurable
[02:59] <evildaemon> I know.
[02:59] <v2k> on shutdown: "error: 'single' exited outside the expected code flow", google isnt of much help, how do i track this down?
[02:59] <nvz> sandra_: you can't add, move, configure applets, the main menu applet doesnt show system anymore which makes it hard to configure anything without gnome-control-center or unity
[02:59] <Vlyn> sandra_: I tried.  And all the option windows are still in „Unity style“
[03:00] <evildaemon> Anyway, to help ME, could someone reccomend an easy way to test a program using apt from a non-debian based system?
[03:00] <hopstafarian> nvz, i think so too, and that's why i wonder what you think about removing the  pressure of deadlines, and making sure that the incentive is towards getting it right the first time?
[03:00] <nvz> sandra_: and thats only the kinds of things I noticed at a quick glance
[03:00] <robin0800> nvz, did you install gnome-panel?
[03:00] <KingSphinx> robin0800: The problem is that it's the shell itself that's got the font problem, not application windows (those are fine).
[03:00] <nvz> hopstafarian: I think thats the way to go.. but debian does that already.. debian and ubuntu are two differen beasts
[03:01] <evildaemon> I could never get Debian to detect my internet, even my ehernet.
[03:01] <Kozlov8> Jordan_U, are you still there?
[03:01] <hopstafarian> surely you're right...but a perpetual release cycle could bring them closer together?
[03:01] <sandra_> nvz, I came across another distro that to me offers some hope over unity it's called Linuxmint Debian also LM11.
[03:01] <KingSphinx> If need be, I made an 11.10 USB stick if I must reinstall, but I'd like to try to fix this instead of just resorting to reinstallation.
[03:01] <nvz> hopstafarian: I can't deny ubuntu is doing really nice things.. in fact I've started using it for people I convert from windows rather than debian.. but I now know that you cant just upgrade.. heh.. cause they release stuff that still has critical bugs
[03:01] <Vlyn> Maybe I'll try Linux Mint, hm.
[03:01] <evildaemon> Mint would get sued fast if it became popular.
[03:01] <reisio> evildaemon: ?
[03:01] <Kozlov8> I have a question.... I installed Ubuntu 11.10 via CD. After it finished it prompted me to restart. I did this. Then a Windows Disk Check came up and checked a lot of files. After that is restarted again and Ubuntu was no where to be found and a partition was taken for nothing?
[03:01] <evildaemon> Using the codecs.
[03:02] <reisio> there's nothing Mint has you can't have in Ubuntu, unless you are so lazy you won't configure anything
[03:02] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Never mind, I found it.  I was looking for Disk Utility.  It was moved to Accessories.  That's why I couldn't find it.
[03:02] <reisio> evildaemon: met a lot of non-profits that have been sued?
[03:02] <nvz> robin0800: how would it have been running if I didnt?
[03:02] <nvz> robin0800: unless you know something I dont
[03:02] <nvz> heh
[03:02] <evildaemon> A non-profit can't succeed in the marketplace.
[03:02] <nvz> which is entirely possible
[03:02] <Vlyn> Let's see how Xubuntu works out. I miss those 1000 options older Ubuntu versions had :-( 11.10 Appearance = Wallpaper now… and so on.
[03:02] <sandra_> evildaemon, why on earth would Linuxmint be sued ?
[03:03] <hopstafarian> nvz, that's why my work machine still runs on maverick...rather be behind the curve than unstable...
[03:03] <reisio> evildaemon: non-profits aren't usually attempting to succed... in the marketplace
[03:03] <joe__> does anyone know anything about bash scripting, i have a relatively simple question thats giving me problems
[03:03] <evildaemon> Their using the patented codecs.
[03:03] <reisio> joe__: ?
[03:03] <evildaemon> Among other things.
[03:03] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, cool
[03:03] <reisio> Kozlov8: how did you look for Ubuntu, exactly?
[03:03] <Kozlov8> reisio - it's on none of my hard drives
[03:03] <durando> alright time for a downgrade, don't know if any developers hang out here or even care but ubuntu 11.10 = epic fail, unity is a evil setup and maybe more importantly there are lotsa bugs
[03:03] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, My muscle memory is wanting to look in the old places for programs from using the classic gnome all this time.  Having to learn this new UI is giving me a headache. lol
[03:03] <reisio> Kozlov8: but how did you determine that
[03:04] <Kozlov8> I tried all 3 that were available
[03:04] <reisio> durando: you don't have to use Unity
[03:04] <Kozlov8> All led to W7, reisio
[03:04] <Ibis> evildaemon: Everyone doesn't live in United States...
[03:04] <johnjohn101> z3ro3x: i feel your pain
[03:04] <illmortal> Anyone know if installation process has changed with 11.10 if you want to install Windows 7 on a 2nd drive for dual booting?
[03:04] <durando> reisio: do tell
[03:04] <reisio> Kozlov8: tried? led?
[03:04] <evildaemon> Ibis true
[03:04] <Vlyn> reisio: But the rest of the menus are crap too…
[03:04] <reisio> Kozlov8: what commands did you use to determine
[03:04] <robin0800> nvz, No I've never installed it just gnome shell but the ubuntu bot sayes you have to to get classic panels
[03:04] <joe__> Exec=bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so'    i need a script to run this but i need to include the filename $1 within the quotes how do i do this
[03:04] <qrwteyrutiyoup> is there a run dialog in gnome shell, in 11.10? alt+f2 used to work o.O
[03:04] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i feel ya...but having to go through that process is vaild...keeps the mind agile..
[03:05] <Kozlov8> I can't use any commands...? reisio
[03:05] <reisio> durando: /msg ubottu !notunity
[03:05] <joe__> u have to reassign the key binding qrw
[03:05] <yigal> qrwteyrutiyoup: start, windows button
[03:05] <reisio> Kozlov8: I want to know how you determined Ubuntu is gone
[03:05] <User_007> Is there a way to change back Unity's menu button to the top of screen (as it was on narry) again?
[03:05] <evildaemon> Sort of like how VLC is in france and ships mp3 and co.
[03:05] <qrwteyrutiyoup> thanks, joe and yigal. I am gonna look into that.
[03:05] <evildaemon> (Actually the mp3 patent expires this year.)
[03:05] <reisio> now that nobody uses mp3 anymore :p
[03:05] <imperfect-> Anyone knwo why a fresh upgrade of 11.10 -- after a reboot complains that dbus is broken and when X starts just turns my monitors black?
[03:05] <evildaemon> You'd be surprised.
[03:06] <Vlyn> Ah crap, Ubuntu is going to hell x( I hope Xubuntu works better for me now.
[03:06] <yigal> joe__: use double quotes
[03:06] <Kozlov8> I went to my BIOS options and saw there were 3 boot options, and tried each one. None of them were Ubuntu reisio
[03:06] <joe__> that simple? lol
[03:06] <evildaemon> I personally use ogg when I can, but much of the music world is still on mp3.
[03:06] <reisio> imperfect-: what do you do when they go black?
[03:06] <yigal> joe__: should be, verify it works :)
[03:06] <reisio> Kozlov8: okay, GRUB?
[03:06] <evildaemon> (Vorbis, whatever.)
[03:06] <sandra_> I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu on the whole, but I like Ubuntu and Linuxmint as a project manager I think our company would benefit by running ubuntu or linuxmint over windows but I don't see how they could be sued.
[03:06] <crooks306> imperfect-, you using xinerama by any chance?
[03:06] <reisio> Kozlov8: that doesn't necessarily mean your Ubuntu install is gone, just not listed by the boot loader
[03:06] <imperfect-> crooks306: twinview
[03:06] <imperfect-> everything is broken
[03:06] <reisio> Kozlov8: Windows may have simply replaced the MBR
[03:06] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i am windows, so have the same complaint about having to learn mac...or trying to support mac converts..makes my head throb eventually
[03:06] <imperfect-> I had to bring up my ethernet by hand and run dhclient
[03:07] <Kozlov8> reisio: Okay, how can I fix it?
[03:07] <imperfect-> i dunno wtf happend
[03:07] <sandra_> Vlyn, so long has you don't have to use a USB headset I think you will really enjoy Xubuntu
[03:07] <crooks306> imperfect-, try turning that off and see if it works.  doesn't get along with compiz
[03:07] <reisio> Kozlov8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should cover it
[03:07] <imperfect-> crooks306: It was working before reboot....
[03:07] <evildaemon> sandra_ The mint project ships with codecs that are patented in the US.  I hope it likes my headset -.-
[03:07] <crooks306> imperfect-, might have had compositing turned off
[03:07] <joe__> works! thanx
[03:07] <crooks306> imperfect-, try recovery mode and go back to single head
[03:07] <imperfect-> crooks306: negative, i was running top watching my zfs perforamnce and compiz was at the top of the list
[03:08] <Kozlov8> Thanks reisio.
[03:08] <yigal> joe__: awesome :)
[03:08] <evildaemon> Just to avoid the situation of Ubuntu where you grab them from the web. It's quite reckless IMO.
[03:08] <sandra_> Vlyn, if you like I can give you the USB work around I used on Xubuntu.
[03:08] <imperfect-> the upgrade went smooth
[03:08] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I prefer efficiency.  I understand the need to redo the UI.  The new ones Unity and Gnome Shell look really elegant and nice but I'm finding that it takes multiple steps to do things what took less steps in classic gnome.  Maybe I just go used to doing things a certain way.  It's going to take getting used to not having a minimize button.  I'm mildly OCD so having multiple programs layered on each other is like havi
[03:08] <z3ro3x> ng a itch I can't scratch. lol
[03:08] <imperfect-> I'd love to know what happened
[03:08] <reisio> evildaemon: they don't really have anything to lose
[03:08] <joe__> funny i actually thought... i should probably use double quotes
[03:08] <yigal> joe__: ya single quotes are for literal strings
[03:08] <crooks306> imperfect-, I had the same problem and it solved it for me.  worth trying anyway
[03:08] <imperfect-> programs can't talk to the dbus socket at the least
[03:08] <Vlyn> sandra_: It's okay, if USB doesn't work I can use them analog too (Not a pure USB headset, but sounds better with it)
[03:08] <yigal> joe__: double allows variables to be expanded
[03:09] <imperfect-> crooks306: right right, the bigger problem is no network interfaces etc
[03:09] <caseymcg> unity schema files?
[03:09] <caseymcg> where are the
[03:09] <joe__> im about 3 pages in to my bash book :P so havent hit that yet
[03:09] <User_007> I get upgraded from Natty amd64, but on Ubuntu (not 2D) everything is too much slow. I can't even play a 800x400 video without lots of lags.
[03:09] <yigal> joe__: :) no worries when you get to arrays you know you've gotten somewhere
[03:10] <joe__> lol i've done arrays in php ...  i no like :/
[03:10] <imperfect-> crooks306: I removed the twinview option from my X config -- still black screen
[03:10] <User_007> while on natty i had no problem playing 1280x720 videos. I think it must be the driver.. can you help me finding out?
[03:10] <reisio> User_007: know what your graphics card is?
[03:10] <crash1hd> ok so how do you restart unity from ctrl alt f1? since gdm is no longer
[03:10] <sandra_> Say could any of you please tell me if there is a way to incorporate the default scrollbars in Ubuntu into Firefox ?
[03:11] <yigal> joe__: they're useful but headache prone
[03:11] <Ibis> caseymcg: Does the file have a specific name?
[03:11] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i understand...and i don't like tiring either....but the unity of the gui and cli is nice....i'd rather type it in and have it run efficiently as poss. and without having to stop it , reset the settings, and start over...cli=where the magic happens..?
[03:11] <evildaemon> reisio I guess, but I'm not interested in projects that can't compete.  The Ubuntu project has corporate backing, greater momentum than of all the *nixes combined, and a mission that is relevant to my interests, and thus is my first thought on the desktop Linux front.
[03:11] <crooks306> imperfect-, just reading above where you came in and I see some others were having DBUS issues.
[03:11] <yigal> sandra_: you don't have the default one's in FF?
[03:11] <yigal> sandra_: what do you have instead?
[03:11] <User_007> reisio, ATI RS690
[03:11] <caseymcg> oh, I think I found it: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/compiz-unity-*
[03:11] <joe__> while im here does any one have an idea why when i open a game like nexuiz in gnomeshell everything goes on the fritz
[03:11] <reisio> evildaemon: so you don't use Mint, gj
[03:12] <sandra_> yigal, what I have for scrollbars under Firefox is their default scrollbar.
[03:12] <yigal> sandra_: there's this http://askubuntu.com/questions/35242/how-do-i-enable-overlay-scrollbars-in-firefox if that's what you're interested in
[03:12] <crooks306> imperfect-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859794
[03:12] <yigal> sandra_: are you using 11.10?
[03:12] <sandra_> yigal, yes that's exactly what I want :-)
[03:12] <sebsebseb> joe__: have you got a propritary Nivdia driver or something like that installed? well what  kind of graphics card you got?
[03:12] <yigal> sandra_: unfortunately no solution
[03:12] <reisio> joe__: fullscreen?
[03:12] <KingSphinx> Does anyone here have an idea as to why my fonts in GNOME Shell (the shell itself) have seemingly disappeared? They're all blocks now...
[03:12] <Ibis> caseymcg: Might want to backup before editing those. xD
[03:12] <sandra_> yes I'm using 11.10
[03:12] <nvz> robin0800: I seen that and if I have time I will try again periodically with a vm and not a machine someone else uses.. but I grabbed a metapackage that seemed to pull in everything.. cause gnome-panel ran it just didnt work for most intents and purposes
[03:12] <imperfect-> it looks like maybe a permission issue
[03:13] <robin0800> z3ro3x, you can have all the buttons in gnome shell if you want
[03:13] <yigal> joe__: are you using compiz?
[03:13] <yigal> joe__: unity 3d?
[03:13] <joe__> i have an nvidia 9800m with the drivers installed and its set to open in fullscreen
[03:13] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Both are still knew so it's going to have some bugs to iron out and features to add.  Hopefully it all gets worked out.  It could use more settings in the System Settings.  It feels like there's a lot missing like the screen saver for one which I still haven't figured out.
[03:13] <joe__> i dont know if im using compiz im just using the newest gnome shell
[03:13] <moloch> hola
[03:13] <caseymcg> unity  Alt-` is killing me ..... sigh
[03:13] <moloch> alguno habla Castellano?
[03:13] <evildaemon> Anyway, I'm not interested in talking politics right now, I mainly wanted to know where the 11.10 mini.iso is.
[03:13] <reisio> moloch: #ubuntu-es
[03:13] <sandra_> yigal, the article you sent me say's it's supposed to be implemented under 11.10
[03:13] <yigal> sandra_: sorry that was a let donw link
[03:14] <yigal> sandra_: are you using 11.10?
[03:14] <nvz> hopstafarian: I don't believe in updates without careful consideration in any case.. if it ain't broke don't fix it.. thats why I love debian and variants.. the software allows you to check changelogs, bug reports..etc easily before changing anything.
[03:14] <moloch> tanks
[03:14] <sandra_> yigal, yes I am
[03:14] <sandra_> yigal,11.10
[03:14] <__machine> how do i configure a new service to start at boot and stop at shutdown etc? this is sickbeard, couchpotato, tvheadend etc… they come with an init script that i copied to /etc/init.d and that works manually but it doesnt start on boot
[03:14] <User_007> reisio, X.Org R300 Project - Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690 - OpenGL  2.1 Mesa 7.11 - shading language version string: 1.20  --- No OpenGL extensions.
[03:14] <joe__> it works fine if i logged out and go to classic gnome 3
[03:14] <caseymcg> __machine: create an upstart script in /etc/init
[03:15] <imperfect-> crooks306: I can't read the link easily, what's the just?
[03:15] <yigal> sandra_: it should be working, I've been a bit hesitant installing 11.10 as I hear there have been issues with sound
[03:15] <imperfect-> s/just/jist/
[03:15] <caseymcg> __machine: I think init.d is depreciated
[03:15] <yigal> sandra_: but it isn't I gather :)
[03:15] <eltigre> hey, after installing oneiric I can't seem to get the flash plugin installed....
[03:15] <hopstafarian> nvz, spoken like an experienced system administrator...sucks when stuff goes wrong and you have to scramble..
[03:15] <__machine> caseymcg:
[03:15] <sandra_> yigal, just my luck lol
[03:15] <eltigre> I installed it several times, always restarting the browsers, but still won't work
[03:15] <__machine> caseymcg: an upstart script?
[03:15] <arghx> __machine: I dunno about upstart, but you can put symlinks for them into /etc/rc2.d/ to start and /etc/rc6.d/ to stop them
[03:15] <nvz> hopstafarian: to be honest after spending some time in this channel, I am thinking though I wanted to I cannot offer ubuntu support on a regular basis.. they're just insane.
[03:15] <yigal> sandra_: go to appearance
[03:16] <yigal> sandra_: are you using a custom theme?
[03:16] <hopstafarian> nvz, been there, and honestly, was usually my fault...extra relaxing...good times
[03:16] <__machine> caseymcg: this is on 10.04.3 lts … is init.d deprecated in that?
[03:16] <caseymcg> __machine: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:16] <joe__> nvz....half of these people dont know how to google :/
[03:16] <caseymcg> __machine: oh ... not sure then
[03:16] <shule> hello everyone
[03:16] <reisio> hi shule
[03:16] <__machine> arghx: is there a helper tool to create the relevant rc?.d symlinks etc?
[03:17] <shule> hi reisio
[03:17] <shule> nice to join here
[03:17] <arghx> __machine: rcconf and update-rc.d mainly. check if you can install rcconf
[03:17] <nvz> hopstafarian: this distro is far too large to be on a 6mo release cycle.. thats just headaches I dont need.. cause people who dont know better click that upgrade that comes up or download the latest thing ubuntu.com is pushing.. and they just did a major release version upgrade of a de that is made up of over 500packages which is a huge chunk of its default system usage in 6mo and are pushing it like its stable.. and that to me is pure insan
[03:17] <__machine> arghx: looking at another service that was installed from a package (sabnzbd) it has symlinks in rc0.d, rc1.d and rc6.d
[03:17] <eltigre> I already read several pages about installing the flash plugin, and that worked the last few upgrades, but currently I am at a loss...
[03:17] <hopstafarian> nvz, a lot of insane people have made valid contributions, though...cause they don't give a thought to failure...they just jump off that cliff...cause, err, honey badger don't give a..
[03:17] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I'm also not quit sure what to make of the (not sure what to call it) thing at the bottom right of Gnome Shell where Removable Devices pops up when I move the mouse down there.  Transmission all puts a part of it self down there.  As well as some system notifications.  It feels a bit inconstant and unfinished.  It almost feels like a system tray thought not quit at the same time.
[03:17] <imperfect-> hrm
[03:18] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Ops, sorry for the typos.
[03:18] <celthunder> nvz: theres lots of large distro's that do updates sooner than 6 months that's not the problem...the problem is the people too lazy to read what's new and accepting without thinking 'hey i need feature xyz which is currently broken in this release let me go check the svn /git changelogs see if that ones working so i can at least use that '
[03:19] <reisio> that's only part of it
[03:19] <nvz> hopstafarian: people who are shrewed and educated on issues such as upgrades and know how to deal with bugs, reporting, resolving them..etc.. they can do that.. but the kinds of people that deploy ubuntu on desktops.. haha.. theyre just not ready to assume stuff they get when they hit that button is gonna work.. cause it simply cant..
[03:19] <User_007> reisio, no clue?
[03:19] <SetiAmon> back
[03:20] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i had the same issue....but i followed my own advice...and just press the linux button, type in what i want, whether it be application or location, and if it can't find that, it jumps to the internet...what could be easier..?
[03:20] <SetiAmon> so audio works perfectly except with flashplayer/browsers.anyone here with the same situation?bugs already on launchpad it seems
[03:20] <yigal> sandra_: if you hit the windows key in 11.10 does that bring up the search + shortcuts dialogue?
[03:20] <ublender> Has anyone here found a solution for the synchronization errors for tomboy notes in oneiric?
[03:20] <yigal> sandra_: if so type in appearance
[03:20] <reisio> User_007: make sure it's the right driver, check for kernel version incompatibilities
[03:20] <RingZer0> lol, i just want a desktop environment that works
[03:20] <Corgan1> Helllllo, room.
[03:20] <nvz> even microsoft who has billions takes a good two years to pump out their latest piece of crap that comes on 1 disk with limited utilities, and no real significant changes.. and you're talking about something 50 times that size with such a small fraction of that budget you can't even express it in a comprehensible way, and so far fewer developers
[03:20] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, The Linux button?
[03:21] <sandra_> yigal, I have I see OS background options
[03:21] <RingZer0> nvz: 50 times the size?
[03:21] <Corgan1> Anybody here running 11.10 with an ATI Radeon HD 6310?
[03:21] <illmortal> good luck Corgan1.
[03:21] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Are you referring to that obnoxious Windows key between Ctrl and Alt?
[03:21] <Corgan1> Well. I mean no one /is/. I mean trying.
[03:21] <martian> Is there a way to do away with the global menu feature in unity?
[03:21] <reisio> "better than Microsoft" is a pretty low bar
[03:21] <User_007> reisio, well, the card is the same listed on glxinfo
[03:21] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, surely i am
[03:21] <illmortal> Heard ATI got hit hard on that new upgrade.
[03:21] <RingZer0> Anyone having issues with nvidia 8xxxM series?
[03:21] <reisio> "as good as Debian" would be something nicer to shoot for :p
[03:21] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[03:21] <User_007> but what about kernel incompatibilities?
[03:22] <reisio> User_007: but is it the right driver
[03:22] <Myrtti> Move On To Ubuntu Support, Please.
[03:22] <reisio> User_007: and that, yes
[03:22] <nvz> RingZer0: uh yeah.. windows is on one disk, comes with notepad and paint and stuff like that.. ubuntu has over 30,000 packages, 4 or more complete desktop environments
[03:22] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I wish I can replace the symbol of that key with a penguin. lol
[03:22] <yigal> sandra_: the idea is that you want to make sure to revert back to the default theme
[03:22] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, in this context, might as well consider it the 'home' button on your iphone..z3
[03:22] <User_007> reisio, how i check if it's the right driver/
[03:22] <RingZer0> nvz: you sure those are Ubuntu packages, or POSTIX packages?
[03:23] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, you can...system 76 in boulder...send them a SASE, they send you some stickers...
[03:23] <nvz> RingZer0: you've just made it clear to me you don't know what you're talking about
[03:23] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I never owned iphone.  I have a blackberry that I'm about ready to throw at the wall. lol Next smart phone I get is going to be android.
[03:23] <jefimenko> i just upgraded my laptop from 11.04 to 11.10 and now i'm on unity 2d (it was 3d in 11.04)
[03:23] <jefimenko> how can i change it to unity 3d
[03:23] <RingZer0> nvz: poxis
[03:23] <RingZer0> nvz: wow, you have a chip on your shoulder huh?
[03:24] <reisio> User_007: what does sudo lspci | grep -i vga say
[03:24] <RingZer0> nvz: ur getting defensive cause some troll made you mad?
[03:24] <yigal> RingZer0: I want one also that's the next step in evolution
[03:24] <sandra_> yigal, Ambiance theme doesn't support the scrollbars for Firefox.
[03:24] <deww> so i've an ubuntu cd made, can i upgrade to 11.10 with it without booting from the disc? i tried that way and basically i wasn't allow to choose t he upgrade option.
[03:24] <yigal> sandra_: oh
[03:24] <pangolin> Please take the non support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:24] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, took me a while to get there too...you're making the right choice....sorry about the RIM...you must be in the northeast or canada?
[03:24] <Corgan1> The ATI Radeon HD 6310 works fairly well with the open driver, as far as I can tell. It detects the displays. Supports the resolutions. Installing the ATI Driver there's no display detection, and upon removal borks Unity/Gnome-Shell/Unity 2D.
[03:24] <User_007> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] -----right
[03:24] <dhruvasagar> Ibis: hey, could you help me with bumblebee ?
[03:24] <Corgan1> But I can't disable my laptop display and use the external display only.
[03:24] <dhruvasagar> can someone help me with bumblebee ?
[03:24] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I refuse to ever own one just for the fact they disabled many of the what I call basic blue tooth features.  I don't know if it's changed in newer version but that was the deal breaker for me.
[03:25] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Austin Texas.
[03:25] <User_007> reisio, must it be a incompatibility between my card/driver and compiz itself?
[03:25] <RingZer0> I was just pointing out that all of the packages that you were mentioning were not built "for ubuntu" but source ... in face, most of the packages (over 50% == most), were made before ubuntu was even a thought
[03:25] <reisio> dhruvasagar: be more specific
[03:25] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: Plano Baby!
[03:25] <nvz> RingZer0: regaurdless if they are created elsewhere the job of a software distributor is to make things work together.. they allow this crap to be in thier package manager for any user to press one button and have, it should with some degree of quality work with any other piece they can just as easily install.. you cannot do that with this much software in 6months.. debian has been going about 2 years on release since I started with 2.2 pota
[03:25] <reisio> User_007: one possibility
[03:25] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, ypu
[03:25] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, ypu?
[03:25] <yigal> sandra_: I think they should in 11.10 http://iloveubuntu.net/ayatana-overlay-scrollbars-extends-its-support-ubuntu-1110-terminal-eye-gnome-fbreader-banshee-etc
[03:26] <nvz> but the thing is, their timeframe isn't a timeframe, its a When Its Ready schedule.. they have to sqaush RC bugs or remove things
[03:26] <mdkendall> Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get some help with an 11.10 system I'm trying to setup for my grandparents.
[03:26] <dhruvasagar> I installed bumblebee from the stable ppa, I tried running 'optirun nvidia-settings -c:1' to check settings, but it complains that the x server hasn't started and fails
[03:26] <nvz> its called sacrificing for stability..
[03:26] <paul_> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !ask | mdkendall
[03:26] <User_007> reisio, may i try reporting a bug for compiz so?
[03:26] <Myrtti> nvz: did you have a Ubuntu support question?
[03:26] <pangolin> nvz: stop with the off topic chatter please
[03:26] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, youre talking about the iphone...cause android is cool...my brother is in austin...sorry about your hot, crappy summer...and the fires..
[03:26] <reisio> User_007: if you find one :p
[03:26] <mdkendall> Thanks :)
[03:26] <z3ro3x> RingZer0, I've been in here for abou 10 years.    I'm about ready to move back to the north east.  I lived west of Philly for about years.  Next move will be in Manchester NH.
[03:26] <RingZer0> nvz: the reaosn why linux is so successful and not just abandoned is because of all of the GNU / GPL ... I guarentee you there are more open source developers than that at microsoft
[03:26] <henchman24> wather
[03:26] <sandra_> yigal, I read that article but no support for Firefox in that article.
[03:26] <dhruvasagar> do I have to enable power management in bumblebee.conf ? I thought that was discouraged
[03:26] <henchman24> weather*
[03:27]  * nvz waves
[03:27] <dhruvasagar> 10 [   1938.10] insmod /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko
[03:27] <dhruvasagar> 11 [   1938.10]   FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[03:27] <RingZer0> nvz: it is difficult to standardize in a company (like microsoft), and even more difficult to standardize internet wide.
[03:27] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, It just started raining again after not raining all summer.   Atleast I'm not alone…
[03:27] <User_007> reisio, it's hard do determine where is the bug itself
[03:27] <reisio> mmm
[03:27] <llama-li1ux> reatest Ubuntu desktop ever? http://forum.linuxmint.com/download/file.php?id=8639 I just finished it, took me three days to find the perfect window manager and decide which theme
[03:27] <dhruvasagar> anybody ? anything ?
[03:27] <pangolin> !ot | EVERYBODY
[03:27] <Myrtti> moving on
[03:27] <llama-li1ux> I wanted something retro, something with an 80s monochrome style
[03:27] <reisio> Vlyn: I only get 7k, but :p
[03:27] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: yeah, i have only lived in TX for last 2 years.  but army has given me the privilege of seeing most of the states, and many countries as well.
[03:27] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, yeah that's what brother said...and they say the science 'isn't in' on global warming?
[03:27] <yigal> sandra_: ya they just mention that it's supported but don't actually show the evidence :)
[03:27] <kesten__> need help building blender: error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object
[03:28] <Vlyn> reisio: I get 425.000 :-)
[03:28]  * RingZer0 thinks Vlyn is troling
[03:28] <z3ro3x> RingZer0, Jesus!  Should have proof read that. lol
[03:28] <Myrtti> llama-li1ux: Ubuntu support question?
[03:28] <Vlyn> But it's google.at
[03:28] <mdkendall> Setting up a computer for my grandparents. My grandfather has early alzheimers. I need to make it as passwordless as possible. I've got passwordless login from lightdm, passwordless sudo via /etc/sudoers, gksduo is set to use sudo, but I'm still getting challenged when doing things like installing software.
[03:28] <kesten__> but libiconv.so.2 is in my /usr/local/lib
[03:28] <purpleyuan> Hey all. When I upgraded, it said that there were some errors and that the system may be unusable. However, I restarted my computer twice (the first time the unity environ didn't start up so I couldn't do anything) and everything seems to be fine. How should I troubleshoot this so I can tell if anything's wrong?
[03:28] <reisio> Vlyn: yeah but you're doing it wrong; http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ubuntu%22%20%22unity%20sucks%22
[03:28] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, finally got below 80 there...?
[03:28] <llama-li1ux> Noo support questions, is there an ubuntu chat Nyrtti
[03:28] <llama-li1ux> ?
[03:28] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: i could not spell to save my life.  but math, science and code are my friend
[03:28] <Vlyn> Okay :P but still 7000 too much
[03:28] <sebsebseb> mdkendall: yep sudo is there for security
[03:28] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: even though words are not :D
[03:28] <sebsebseb> mdkendall: meant to use a password with that
[03:29] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I'd tell you the temp now but I don't have my weather thingy any more that I had in classic gnome.
[03:29] <reisio> llama-li1ux: -offtopic
[03:29] <mdkendall> I understand the security ramifications. Been running linux forever and am a developer. Doesn't change the fact that my grandpa won't remember passowrds. How is it any more secure to write it on a sticky on the monitor?
[03:29] <martian> Is there a way to do away with the unity launcher?
[03:29] <mdkendall> I could've sworn modifying /etc/sudoers used to work.
[03:29] <yigal> sandra_: ya I just read this one, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/overlay-scrollbars-ubuntu-ppa/ doesn't work for FF and comments are only two days old
[03:30] <sebsebseb> martian: of cousre :)
[03:30] <sebsebseb> !nounity | martian
[03:30] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, sudo apt-get install my-weather-indicator?
[03:30] <reisio> mdkendall: just run X as root
[03:30] <martian> sebsebseb: amazing, so the launcher is hard coded into unity?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> mdkendall: you  could set up  a remote connection I guess, and be responsibe  of his security updates yourself, if your not there I guess even, but  either way sudo should have a password really, but I guess there is a way to use without as well
[03:30] <RingZer0> I'm really bummed out, I was hoping ubuntu would work for me and my nvidia... 32 bit gave me a kernal panic booting from CD, the 64 bit on a different laptop seemed to work, but everything that displays in X just creates a black shadow and nothing is clickable... I went through ctrl+alt+F1 (tty) to wget nvidia drivers, but you need to run via desktop env or it wont work, talk about chicken vs egg.
[03:30] <dhruvasagar> how do I start the bumblebee x server ?
[03:31] <sebsebseb> martian: yep Unity isn't that customisable as far as I know
[03:31] <mdkendall> It's just weird because I can get passwordless sudo on the command line but not in the GUI?
[03:31] <martian> sebsebseb: who the hell thought up this stuff, and why do they hate linux?
[03:31] <mdkendall> How is the command line *less* dangerous?!
[03:32] <RingZer0> mdkendall: nopefully non-root command line :)
[03:32] <sandra_> yigal, I read that one 2 thank you so much for your help :-)
[03:32] <arghx> mdkendall: if you have passwordless sudo in the console, you set it up this way
[03:32] <sebsebseb> martian: Unity is thought up by  Mark Shuttleworth the Ubuntu Founder and the Canonical Design team, people like that, but you don't have to use Unity as the bot just told you
[03:32] <RingZer0> any thoughts on how I can get my desktop env working?  just really really slow, can't start anything, and freezes on each click.
[03:32] <reisio> mdkendall: because gksu isn't sudo
[03:32] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Just installed it.  It's running on the bottom right in what feels like a system tray which could use more work.  Than again I am in Gnome Shell I may switch back over to Unity and try that again.  Not being able to move the icons in my favorites on the what ever you call it on the left was annoying.
[03:32] <celthunder> mdkendall: because you type your commands some random script isn'r running them so you know whats going on in a terminal?
[03:32] <mdkendall> But I have passwordless gksu/gksudo.
[03:32] <arghx> RingZer0: disable optimus, at least for installing. then look into vgaswitcheroo
[03:33] <reisio> dhruvasagar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_N53#nVidia_Optimus_video_card_switching ?
[03:33] <RingZer0> arghx: thanks for responding.  install went great.  but when it boots, the desktop environment just freezes when clicking on anythying
[03:33] <jefimenko> my laptop reverted to unity 2D after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10. does anyone know how to turn 3d on?
[03:33] <mdkendall> What is launching/controlling the "Authenticate" dialog? Is this some sort of gnome keyring thing?
[03:33] <martian> sebsebseb: as we discussed earlier, it's clear that the alternative to unity is akin to a big middle-finger to anyone who doesn't like apple-style ui's
[03:33] <RingZer0> arghx: even if i could get a keyboard command to start a terminal window inside the desktop environment, I could run the driver package for nvidia
[03:33] <arghx> jefimenko: depends on your videocard
[03:34] <celthunder> mdkendall: likely your gui has some osrt of password keyring thing....if it didn't you wouldn't get that crap
[03:34] <reisio> martian: so?
[03:34] <purpleyuan> !unity
[03:34] <sebsebseb> martian: Gnome SHell, Gnome  3 fall back mode,  KDE/Kubuntu,  XFCE/Xubuntu, LXDE/Lubuntu, and so on
[03:34] <arghx> RingZer0: ctrl+alt+f1 and install it there.
[03:34] <purpleyuan> !notunity
[03:34] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, personally, i think i'm gonna pursue gnome-shell...seems a little more promising, but i've certainly been wrong before,...as a matter of fact, that's a much longer list...
[03:34] <sebsebseb> martian: plus many differnet distros if you really want even
[03:34] <phiscibe> i remember once upon a time you could sudo anything, nowdays with all the freaking config files if u dont gksudo or kdesudo root coops your config files and you get  mystery erros galore
[03:34] <mdkendall> celthunder: any idea how to turn that off?
[03:35] <celthunder> mdkendall: remove it?  idk lol i use xmonad which doens't come with that crap thank god
[03:35] <mdkendall> Hah :)
[03:35] <reisio> mdkendall: the usual way is to opt out of using a password when you first run a program
[03:35] <reisio> I'm sure you can disable it globally, too, though
[03:35] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i gotta call it a night, but nice meeting ya...
[03:35] <RingZer0> arghx: thanks ... how do i restart X after install?
[03:36] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, It seems like the gnome developers are hell bent on keeping everything on the top panel (if it's still called that) clean and free from any knew icons from other programs.  And programs that would normally stay running in the system tray is being put in the hidden panel on the bottom right.
[03:36] <mdkendall> reisio: is it likely keyring? been googling/poking at this thing for a few hours now.
[03:36] <dhruvasagar> reisio: I have a dell laptop.
[03:36] <arghx> RingZer0: not totally sure since gdm uses upstart :(
[03:36] <reisio> dhruvasagar: gj
[03:36] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, You too.  Good night.
[03:36] <dhruvasagar> reisio: I think I just had to restart, I think it is working now
[03:36] <reisio> mdkendall: keyring, wallet, etc.
[03:36] <reisio> dhruvasagar: gj
[03:36] <dhruvasagar> reisio: but I am not sure what I need
[03:37] <dhruvasagar> reisio: what I need to do for ensuring it switches appropriately.
[03:37] <reisio> dhruvasagar: for what
[03:37] <arghx> RingZer0: service gdm stop  I guess
[03:37] <ectabyte> I just upgraded to 11.10 and I'm using the fglrx 11.9 drivers with gnome shell. For some reason I can't set amdcccle to use multi-monitors. When I reboot and login, the dual-monitor settings are there but when I actually log into gnome shell its just cloned display and the settings reset..
[03:37] <sap> hi i have a problem with my video playback video get freeze 4 5-6 seconds and audio goes on
[03:37] <RingZer0> arghx: thats cool, worst case snario i can just do : shutdown -r now
[03:37] <reisio> sap: what's this video's resolution?
[03:37] <ectabyte> What if I did like chattr to xorg.conf so nothgin can change it?
[03:37] <RingZer0> im a big fan of ubuntu server edition, not yet much of one for home use
[03:37] <semitones>  /topic
[03:38] <reisio> RingZer0: so backwards :p
[03:38] <arghx> ectabyte: why would anything change xorg.conf? maybe try using xorg.conf.d/ ?
[03:38] <tanath> i'm trying to install a package and it won't 'cause it says a conflicting package is installed. so i try to remove it, but it doesn't seem to be installed. what gives?
[03:38] <jefimenko> arghx: it's an nvidia card
[03:38] <dhruvasagar> coming back, facing audio problems in 11.10, I think the 'auto muting' feature is not working properly, my speakers get muted and never unmute. When I put my headphone in they do turn to mute, but never turn back to unmute, I have to go into alsamixer to unmute them
[03:38] <reisio> tanath: specifics please
[03:38] <KM0201> RingZer0: depends on what you need it for.. i use ubuntu server for my home file/media server, an FTP server, and a torrent server, and it's flawless
[03:38] <phiscibe> jefimenko: Remote Desktop does not work with the -fglrx video driver, nor with the legacy nvidia drivers. You can establish a connection but the remote screen does not update. As a workaround use Unity2d, or switch to the free drivers or nvidia-current. (772873)
[03:38] <semitones> Hey so for oneconf, is the idea that I install it on my current kubuntu install, then install it on my new kubuntu install?
[03:38] <jacobp> poopop
[03:38] <tanath> reisio, chrome stable to chrome beta
[03:38] <ectabyte> arghx: I'm not really sure what's happening, I used aticonfig --initial for my initial settings but I changed it to use dual monitors but it resets when i log into it
[03:39] <marp> join #ubuntu-br
[03:39] <RingZer0> reisio: lol, on all our enterprise we use RHEL/CentOS - for our work server (vpn) we use ubuntu server
[03:39] <reisio> tanath: not chromium?
[03:39] <tanath> reisio, chrome beta won't install 'cause it says chrome stable is installed. attempting to remove chrome stable does nothing as if it's not installed
[03:39] <arghx> ectabyte: fglrx supports xrandr afaik. use that for your monitor settings
[03:39] <reisio> RingZer0: that's even weirder
[03:39] <dhruvasagar> could anyone help with audio or do I just have to bear the pain right now withot headphones ?
[03:40] <reisio> tanath: maybe you have chromium installed?
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, no, chromium lacks some things
[03:40] <reisio> tanath: like spyware
[03:40] <purpleyuan> Er, okay. I typed in "gnome-settings-daemon" on my terminal and my touchpad stopped working.  How do I get the touchpad working agian?
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, no
[03:40] <ectabyte> arghx: set that as a startup application or something?
[03:40] <phiscibe> RingZer0: you can install nvida outside of the x server
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, no spyware. chrome lacks embedded pdf support and things
[03:40] <arghx> ectabyte: it should remember settings afaik
[03:40] <cpatrick08> dhruvasagar: what audio problem are you experienceing
[03:40] <reisio> tanath: chromium, you mean?
[03:40] <semitones> dhruvasagar: could you tell the whole story? What version of ubuntu are you using, and when did the problem start?
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, anyway, irrrelevant. weird package issues
[03:40] <arrenlex> I just installed 11.10 and noticed it has new multiarch stuff that supports 32-bit apps on 64-bit hosts. How do I use it? I want to compile a 32-bit only app on my 64-bit machine.
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, er, yes
[03:41] <Guest92328> 1st time here, can I ask a q?
[03:41] <arghx> tanath: it also "lacks" lots of reporting to google about user surfing habits...
[03:41] <semitones> arrenlex: i'd also like to find out how. I want to install psx2x
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: yep of course :)
[03:41] <tanath> reisio, issue isn't with chrome it's with package management
[03:41] <arghx> !ask | Guest92328
[03:41] <dhruvasagar> Captainkrtek: semitones I just upgraded to 11.10 last night, the headphones do not seem to work consistently, they work sometimes but if I plugout and then plug them back in, they're not working
[03:41] <tanath> arghx, only if you enable them. which it asks.
[03:41] <arghx> tanath: pastebing your apt-get output please
[03:41] <tanath> arghx, and seriously, it's google. sounds a bit paranoid
[03:42] <dhruvasagar> Captainkrtek: semitones also once I plugin my headphones, then the speakers go mute (the auto-mute), but when I plug them out, the speakers do not unmute, the only way is to go to alsamixer and unmute them manually
[03:42] <Guest92328> upgraded 11.04 to 11.10 cannot enter Keepassx gui after entering password
[03:42] <celthunder> arrenlex: install the 32 bit libraries in the 64 bit install or make a chroot either way it should let you build 32 bit in your 64/use them
[03:42] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: what does it show, you get log in screen or not?
[03:42] <jackd> asdfsdfsfmsdnfn
[03:42] <marp>  /join #ubuntu-br
[03:43] <arghx> tanath: it is not paranoid. google is a hundred billion dollar company only because of the datamining of their users websearches and surfing habits...
[03:43] <Hordeking> Hey, have there been any reports about the nvidia kernel module breaking on an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10? I've had this happen several times on distribution upgrades, but I'm not sure why, since distros install fine from scratch.
[03:43] <dhruvasagar> Captainkrtek: semitones when the headphones do work too, I am hearing sound only in the left ear, there is a very low muffled sound in the right year, changing the balance to the right one does not fix it
[03:43] <semitones> dhruvasagar: hmm, check out this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/868915 -- can you see the same behavior in alsamixer as the poster?
[03:43] <reisio> Hordeking: someone was in here yesterday who'd had his system switched from nvidia to nouveau
[03:43] <arghx> Hordeking: how did you install your nvidia modules? via installer from nvidia.com?
[03:43] <Guest92328> keepassx icon is on the top line, right clock can unlock/lock and it opens a windows to enter password but then no way to find the windows with password lists etc.
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: not  quite sure what icon your getting
[03:44] <Hordeking> arghx: No, the one I had was the vanilla one the ubuntu installer installed.
[03:44] <arghx> tanath: but feel free if you don't want your problem solved. have a nice day then
[03:44] <SetiAmon> So whats the deal no more screen savers in 11.10?
[03:44] <Hordeking> arghx: I've managed to get the thing to boot to runlevel 2, framebuffer mode.
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: also maybe you just got a faulty upgrade, and best to start over with a clean install of 11.10
[03:44] <tanath> gah, my mistake. wrong package name. sorry
[03:44] <Guest92328> keepassx icon like 2 keys arranged in a cross with a small lock icon on it if locked or without lock icon if unlocked
[03:44] <dhruvasagar> semitones: looks extremely similar, but there is no solution / workaroudn :(
[03:44] <illmortal> anyone know if the command to recover grub has changed in 11.10?.. I'm about to install Windows 7 on a 2nd drive.
[03:44] <semitones> dhruvasagar: better link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/871611
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: oh in Unity, the new interface?
[03:45] <tanath> arghx, evidence suggests they've been very good about the whole "don't be evil" thing
[03:45] <arghx> illmortal: it's the same
[03:45] <reisio> illmortal: I don't see how it could've
[03:45] <arghx> !ot | tanath
[03:45] <illmortal> thanks arghx
[03:45] <sgs2_usr> Can anyone tell me how to save my lcd brightness adjustment? it reset to maximum brightness everytime i boot up
[03:45] <illmortal> i dunno reisio I've been finding quite a few surprises.
[03:45] <RingZer0> figures, my luck: Bumblebee's install.sh :: The BusID of the nVidia card can't be determined -- You must correct this manually in /etx/X11/xorg.conf.invidia.  Please report this problem.  If you happen to get it working please run bumblebee-submitsystem (lol)
[03:45] <tanath> arghx, oh, so if i disagree with you about an irrelevant topic you won't help me eh? that how it works?
[03:45] <reisio> illmortal: yeah but GRUB is GRUB
[03:45] <sap> can any help for my video problem
[03:45] <illmortal> true
[03:45] <Guest92328> yes, unity new interface
[03:45] <studentz>   sap which video car do you have?
[03:46] <sap> nvidia geforce 6100
[03:46] <arrenlex> celthunder: Okay, I tried running "cmake ." and it said I had a 64-bit system which was not supported. I am trying to install 32-bit cmake but it errors out saying it's not installable. Where do I go from here?
[03:46] <Bulldog2010> hi all
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: ok well  someone else can probably help you better
[03:46] <RingZer0> geforce 8600M
[03:46] <studentz> sap I meansap i can help you
[03:46] <Guest92328> no faulty upgrade works great, everybody on web complaints about this for a while and no solution
[03:46] <mtrg> why does my ibus has chinese added by default and no other languages? (input methods)
[03:46] <SetiAmon> There is no screen savers in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[03:46] <arghx> tanath: you STILL haven't answered about your topic but whined about irrelevant stuff. since my time is to precious to deal with someone like you who can't explain his problem I better /ignore you now. helps my bloodpressure
[03:46] <illmortal> no setiamon
[03:46] <sgs2_usr> SetiAmon: nope
[03:46] <RingZer0> geforce is the same as nvidia isn't it?
[03:46] <illmortal> there's a command that gives you the capability though.
[03:46] <martian> Oh look, if I right click on the desktop and not the unity panel, I can create a new launcher in the panel. That makes a lot of sense.
[03:46] <tanath> arghx, did i miss something? or did you?
[03:46] <sap> yes
[03:46] <imperfect-> geforce is a series by nvidia
[03:46] <arghx> RingZer0: yes. and bumblebee is unsupported 3rd party software
[03:46] <sebsebseb> SetiAmon: uhmm
[03:47] <illmortal> gotta google, "10 things after 11.10" or something like that.
[03:47] <sebsebseb> SetiAmon: you seen the lock screen screensaver?
[03:47] <Hordeking> arghx: I was noticing when I tried to apt-get install nvidia-current from the ppa, it was doing something with some PAE kernel modules?
[03:47] <robin0800> SetiAmon, if you want sceensavers the workaround is to uninstall gnome screensaver and install any others you want
[03:47] <studentz> Sap which is the problem?
[03:47] <phiscibe> Guest92328: can you double click them,  instead of single click normal
[03:47] <tanath> arghx, i said i used the wrong package name. so i don't actually need help with that.
[03:47] <martian> 1 thing to do after installing 11.10. Reinstall 11.04.
[03:47] <Bulldog2010> can some one help me install my Brother Dcp115c Printer in Ubuntu 11.10 as it keeps tellin me that there are no drivers installed for this printer adn it wont work. worked fine in 11.04
[03:47] <sebsebseb> martian: Why?
[03:47] <celthunder> arrenlex: uhm you shouldn't need a 32 bit cmake you need the 32 bit libraries only last i checked...
[03:47] <usr13> imperfect-: yes
[03:47] <sebsebseb> martian: or switch to another distro :D
[03:47] <lucasn> hhjhjjkg
[03:48] <crash1hd> ok somehow I lost unity? when it boots up its not there
[03:48] <tanath> arghx, and try not to stress so easy
[03:48] <sgs2_usr> Bulldog2010: did you check the official printer website for the driver?
[03:48] <Guest92328> cannot double cliock really as 1st click shows short (2 options) menu
[03:48] <celthunder> arrenlex: the compilers should be able to go back/forth
[03:48] <crash1hd> I can run unity-2d from applications
[03:48] <illmortal> oh God... I just realized.. if I have to do a clean install of 11.10... I'll probably be screwed out of my video configuration lol
[03:48] <crash1hd> and it loads but it doesnt run on startup
[03:48] <illmortal> GTX260 NVIDIA ... do not need any problems if I have to clean install.
[03:48] <Bulldog2010> sgs2_usr: yes and installed it but got the same thing
[03:48] <sgs2_usr> illmortal: always backup 11.04 config before performing update
[03:48] <rodd> Hi
[03:48] <martian> sebsebseb: what can I say. this release has turned this long time user and one who enjoyed ocasionally coming here to help others into a bitchy troll
[03:49] <sgs2_usr> Bulldog2010: tough luck then....raise bug in launchpad
[03:49] <Hordeking> arghx: I did actually try to install the nividia drivers from the nvidia website. The installer whined about some preconfig scripts not present or failing (or something)
[03:49] <rodd> I've got an annoying problem with ubuntu on my laptop
[03:49] <illmortal> the update has went smooth, sgs2_usr
[03:49] <rodd> I cannot control the brightness level
[03:49]  * rypervenche loves being a Debian user.
[03:49] <Bulldog2010> ok thanks!
[03:49] <illmortal> I assume because it kept the video config from 11.04 lol
[03:49] <arghx> rypervenche: E_CHAN
[03:49] <rodd> it's a sony vaio, vpccw13fb, is there anyone here that could help me?
[03:49] <lucasn_> hello
[03:49] <sgs2_usr> rodd: i can, but can't save it
[03:49] <martian> sebsebseb: I guess I have learned from it that maybe there needs to be more people like me involved in testing the beta releases and providing feedback. Maybe this nightmare could be avoided.
[03:49] <arghx> !ask | rodd
[03:49] <sebsebseb> martian: http:.//distrowatch.com
[03:49] <Hordeking> illmortal: Hmmm, that might be, but I can't find an nvidia driver besides nvidiafb.ko
[03:50] <arrenlex> celthunder: Oh, I see... I'm not sure where to go from here to start building this app though.
[03:50] <sgs2_usr> illmortal: well, u said ur graphic screwed up
[03:50] <rodd> I already asked my question
[03:50] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  what do you mean by cannot save it?
[03:50] <robin0800> Hordeking, think you can ignore that message and just continue
[03:50] <illmortal> <_<; i'll just go ahead and save my config file.
[03:50] <sgs2_usr> rodd: when i adjust my lcd brightness, the next reboot, it resetted back to MAXIMUM brightness again
[03:50] <rodd> well, a temp solution would be great
[03:50] <arghx> !ppa | Hordeking
[03:51] <Hordeking> robin0800: It certainly doesn't give me the option to ignore it.
[03:51] <l1nr007> arista doesn't work on ubuntu 11.10... I wonder how can I take a preset from the computer-advance.json and use it manually in terminal like this one: http://pastebin.com/EUjsh5pT
[03:51] <sap> help> help> video problem
[03:51] <crash1hd> I installed the compiz thing and lost unity?
[03:51] <illmortal> deja dup back up utility for the win
[03:51] <Hordeking> arghx: Yes, I know what a PPA is.
[03:51] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: Unity is a plugin for Compiz
[03:51] <alexc__> hi
[03:51] <rodd> sgs2_usr, could you share your approach?
[03:51] <rodd> my eyes would thank you
[03:51] <evildaemon> Once again, where is the mini.iso for 11.10, I can't find it.
[03:51] <SetiAmon> anyone here have no sound in browsers on 11.10?
[03:51] <martian> sebsebseb: but the fact is that ubuntu has long since been far ahead of most other distros in usability. I can focus on writing code and enjoying an easy to use and install operating system that has advanced polish and shine. Now that polish and shine has been applied to a retarded interface and so I'm left with picking a crappy flaky distro or one designed for morons.
[03:51] <arghx> Hordeking: but you apparently don't know how to read the WARNING ubottu just gave
[03:52] <sgs2_usr> rodd: how do you normally adjust your laptop lcd brightness?
[03:52] <xangua> !minimal | evildaemon
[03:52] <Guest92328> keepassx no access to gui after enter password, any solution?
[03:52] <Hordeking> arghx: It's a rather irrelevant warning, don't you think? If I didn't have the problem, I wouldn't have been looking at the PPA. At any rate, it didn't seem to help.
[03:52] <zmbmartin> Does anyone know how to change nautilus keybindings?
[03:52] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  fn button plus f5 or f6
[03:52] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, ok well when I installed the compiz manager something locked up and I rebooted and now when I boot up the nice new bar on the side is gone
[03:52] <sebsebseb> martian: actsaully I can think of a few distros that are more user friendly really, depending on the user
[03:52] <boxbeatsy> hi, is there any way to upload a set of files to multiple ftp servers at the same time?
[03:52] <sgs2_usr> rodd: exactly...
[03:52] <robin0800> Hordeking, well what does it say?
[03:52] <evildaemon> Thank you
[03:52] <rodd> ...
[03:52] <alexc__> hi
[03:52] <sgs2_usr> rodd: you just answered your own question :D
[03:52] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: ok yeah
[03:53] <sap> please help
[03:53] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: thought you had done something like that
[03:53] <sebsebseb> !ask | sap
[03:53] <rodd> n
[03:53] <arghx> boxbeatsy: only with several ftp clients. you could write a script for ncftpput which does this
[03:53] <rodd> no
[03:53] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  I can see the brightness bar widget changing
[03:53] <Aleo> hi again
[03:53] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, any idea how I fix it?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: compia  fusion settings manager right,  well just enable unity again in it, then should get it back
[03:53] <crash1hd> yes
[03:53] <rodd> however it doesn't affect anything
[03:53] <sgs2_usr> rodd: yes, same here...but does it save the setting the next time u reboot?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: is this 11.10 or 11.04 by the way?
[03:53] <l1nr007> any idea please ?
[03:53] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, 11.10
[03:53] <Hordeking> robin0800: Well, I'd have to try to run the installer again, but it said something to the effect of couldn't find, or run, some preconfig scripts somewhere. And gave me the option to quit. Not much of an option, since that's all I could do.
[03:53] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  it keeps at maximum even if I put it to the lowest
[03:54] <phiscibe> in gnome, kde, xfce, windows and mac: when you left click a tray icon it opens the app window, and when you right click it, it opens the app context menu. But now, in ubuntu, the behavior is differente to all desktops in the world. And, to open the app window it takes 2 (two) clicks and not 1 (one). I think this is a lot of usabilitiy lost. (sorry about my bad english) – user4928
[03:54] <arghx> rodd: try to use an acpi program like acpitool or such to set brightness and then put it in /etc/rc.local which makes it run on bootup
[03:54] <sgs2_usr> rodd: okay, mine works when i adjust it, but not able to save it, so slightly different bug
[03:54] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: what do you see instead?  can you show me of interest?
[03:54] <Hordeking> arghx: What would possibly cause the video driver to vanish like that on an upgrade?
[03:54] <Aleo> robin0800, I don't have the appearance icon on settings, is this normal, I installed today Ubuntu last version
[03:54] <arghx> rodd: it's a crappy workaround but other than that you can only google how other vaio users solved the problem
[03:54] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: as in screenshot
[03:54] <xangua> phiscibe: if you mean unity launcher, i tested it today and it runs apps with one clic
[03:54] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, all I get is the bar at the top for the desktop (you know the one that lets you organize the desktop ext... (I will try)
[03:55] <Aleo> also don't have screesaver options under system settings
[03:55] <rodd> ill give it a try
[03:55] <rodd> thanks
[03:55] <boxbeatsy> arghx: ah i see, i was trying to write a script that automates ncftp, but it just pauses fater the initial login when promnpted for the username.  do you know how i can write a shell script that can take standard input?
[03:55] <RingZer0> okay, so ubuntu 2d works great (wahhhh , but i want 3d to work!)  does this mean 3d accel isn't working?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Aleo: yep things have changed
[03:55] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | Aleo
[03:55] <Lafiir> After the upgrade to 11.10, Totem can no longer play my .mp4 video files (h264+aac).  It tries to install 'quicktime-demuxer' but fails. Also Nautilus does not create thumbnails for them anymore. Ideas?
[03:55] <phiscibe> sorry i didnt mean to paste there, i think for one one of my machines something has revered to the old behaviour
[03:55] <xangua> Aleo: no screensaver, i saw a post on webupd8 to tweak oneiric and add screensaver and other useful stuff ;)
[03:55] <phiscibe> tyring to figure it out
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Aleo: Ubuntu 11.10 uses Gnome 3.2 with Unity by default,  Gnome Shell and a Gnome 2 like fall back mode in repos as an option
[03:55] <martian> sebsebseb: ahh, which distros do you speak of?
[03:56] <Guest92328> anyone uses KeepassX on ubuntu 11.10?
[03:56] <robin0800> Aleo, you should have its the first one under personnel
[03:56] <sebsebseb> martian: pm me
[03:56] <Aleo> hummm
[03:56] <sebsebseb> martian:  since off topic
[03:56] <arghx> boxbeatsy: expect I guess. but: you can put the password on the commandline. if you want to that is. or use a scripting language like python/perl/ruby for your script where getting passwords typed in is even easier
[03:56] <xangua> phiscibe: you can try run: unity --reset
[03:56] <soreau> RingZer0: What graphics card do you have?
[03:56] <arghx> soreau: from the log, I'd say it's an nvidia optimus setup
[03:56] <phiscibe> this one box is foobard, i got it mixed up with kde desktop
[03:57] <phiscibe> was just testing anyway
[03:57] <soreau> arghx: Did you install the nvidia driver with jockey?
[03:57] <Aleo> sebsebseb, there is any solution for this, I really like screensavers, and would like the other things
[03:57] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, goto http://www.tinyurl.com/5th58up it goes to the image on imageshack
[03:57] <Aleo> I installed already the advanced settings
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Aleo: ok right
[03:57] <l1nr007> can anyone translate these settings http://pastebin.com/EUjsh5pT into a ffmpeg command to use it in terminal ?
[03:58] <robin0800> Aleo,  if you want sceensavers the workaround is to uninstall gnome screensaver and install any others you want
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: apparnatly no screensavers in Ubuntu 11.10 at all, not quite sure if that's true, however I  know that Gnome 3 doesn't have any screensavers except for the lock one
[03:58] <Lafiir> @Guest92328: yes, working fine
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: so I guess that's true,  well if you remove gnome screensaver
[03:58] <arghx> soreau: why would I? I was telling you about RingZer0's problem. I don't own optimus hardware like he does
[03:58] <tanath> anyone else have software centre just show a blank screen?
[03:58] <johnjohn101> what is airplane mode?
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: you may be able to get xscreensaver working for example, but not tired this myself
[03:58] <rodd> hm acpitool didn't work, apparently it only sets the brightness for thinkpads and asus
[03:58] <soreau> arghx: oh, sorry :)
[03:58] <studentz> sebsebseb check  this site http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:58] <Guest92328> I cannot see the password list after enter the master password, how do you navigate/focus to it?
[03:58] <Aleo> humm
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: also I think Ubuntu/Canonical will implement  some sort of screensaver feature later on  from  something I read
[03:59] <Aleo> that will be good
[03:59] <tanath> johnjohn101, disables wireless
[03:59] <arghx> Aleo: look for X screensaves?
[03:59] <Aleo> arghx, I would like to have the Screensaver icon on system settings
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Aleo: later on though, would mean 12.04 I guess though
[04:00] <sap_> video playback problem
[04:00] <tanath> johnjohn101, some old planes have instruments that might be affected by signals, so many phones and laptops have 'airplane mode'
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Aleo: as for Gnome Shell, there's something about how people can make some sort of screensavers like extension for it
[04:00] <johnjohn101> tx tanath. i had no idea
[04:00] <Aleo> I installed gnome interface too, but when I log into gnome there is no screensaver also
[04:00] <usr13> sap_: Yes......?
[04:00] <tanath> np
[04:00] <arrenlex> celthunder: Okay, I am trying to install the 32-bit version of libwxgtk, by issuing "sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-0:i386, but it says that package is not installable. What am I doing wrong?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Aleo: yep since it's Gnome 3.2 under neath
[04:00] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yeah it disabled unity how odd now when I enable it says there are a bunch of conflicts so I said to allow them anyhow
[04:00] <usr13> sap_: What kind of video ?
[04:01] <jefimenko> unity 3d doesn't work anymore after upgrading to 11.10. i get the following when i run unity --reset. http://paste.ubuntu.com/708352/
[04:01] <asherreilly> Can someone explain why PClinuxos has such a high distrowatch rating but when you go on their irc site they only have 20 users?   Most others have 500+?
[04:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> is there any way to get the old gnome back
[04:01] <arrenlex> celthunder: It complains about gstreamer not going to be installed.
[04:01] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: ok just saw the shot, yeah that looks a bit odd
[04:01] <Aleo> sebsebseb, ok, so what I have to do to have screensavers and the icon on system settings ?
[04:01] <xangua> !gnome2 | Gunz4MiPPle
[04:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> gnome classic isnt really glassic
[04:01] <tanath> asherreilly, could be their users don't use irc :P
[04:01] <sebsebseb> studentz: already been on that link before, but ok then :)
[04:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> !notunity
[04:01] <usr13> asherreilly: Could be that it just works.  (Needs very little support.)
[04:01] <Aleo> also the themes tab does not appear neither the font tab I used to see on Debian Gnome
[04:01] <studentz> jefimenko video card problem
[04:01] <tanath> asherreilly, maybe they have a different community outlet
[04:01] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, odd is an understatement lol :) but its all fixed now thanks
[04:01] <bazhang> asherreilly, #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[04:01] <adminscout> hello
[04:02] <ectabyte> I tried xrandr and arandr to set dualmonitors with gnome-shell but the screen because extremly disordered and pixilated so I couldn't read anything..
[04:02] <Aleo> and there is no right click on the panels like on Debian
[04:02] <Aleo> :)
[04:02] <arghx> jefimenko: are you another optimus user?
[04:02] <jefimenko> studentz: a configuration problem or something else? it was working on 11.04
[04:02] <Gunz4MiPPle> thank u xangua its gnome panel i actually want
[04:02] <ectabyte> It works fine at the display manager
[04:02] <ectabyte> Just not when I log on
[04:02] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: how you fix?
[04:02] <studentz> jefimenko which video card do you have?
[04:02] <illmortal> Damn... back up file is larger than 5GB lol
[04:03] <arghx> ectabyte: could it be something in your X session messes it up. some config you made?
[04:03] <robin0800> !nounity | Gunz4MiPPle
[04:03] <ectabyte> arghx: Should I post it here?
[04:03] <arghx> jefimenko: pastebin the output of lspci -nn
[04:03] <jefimenko> arghx, studentz: it's a nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2)
[04:03] <arghx> ectabyte: pastebin
[04:03] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, turned unity back on
[04:03] <arghx> ectabyte: but I'm not really clear what you want to pastebin
[04:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> the new unity makes Doom 2 drag... Doom 2!
[04:04] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, in compiz-manager (for some reason it turned of unity for me)
[04:04] <ectabyte> Yeah I know, I'll paste my xorg.conf
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Aleo: not tried this myself, but it seems the suggesiton going around here is to, uninstall gnome-screensaver then install xscreensavers,  well worth a try I guess
[04:04] <Hordeking> I thought the ubuntu people were supposed to try to be helpful. Telling me I voided my warranty by doing something to fix a problem isn't very helpful.
[04:04] <ectabyte> I don't know what else would be causing it
[04:04] <ectabyte> http://pastie.org/2698730
[04:04] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: yeah, that's what I said earlier wasn't it, to re enable Unity
[04:04] <Aleo> sebsebseb, ok, going to try
[04:04] <sebsebseb> in there
[04:04] <adminscout> where to go for joti?>
[04:04] <Takyoji> Does Unity honestly still have issues with a multi-monitor setup? I have separate X screens, and X screen 1 is blank white (but I can move the cursor over to it, which turns to an X)
[04:05] <Hordeking> If I knew what might have happened to break things during the distribution upgrade, I'd maybe be able to fix it.
[04:05] <tanath> anyone know why software centre might be completely blank?
[04:05] <Aleo> sebsebseb, and about to set the size of the dock bar on the left, I mean the icons look to big and I am on 1650x1080 res
[04:05] <sap_> usrl13 what of video means?
[04:06] <jefimenko> arghx, studentz: my laptop has both of these video cards, but i can enable either one from BIOS. the nvidia is enabled currently. http://paste.ubuntu.com/708353/
[04:06] <usr13> Hordeking: True
[04:06] <RingZer0> yum has yum search, what does apt have?
[04:06] <bazhang> RingZer0, apt-cache search
[04:06] <xangua> RingZer0: apt-cache search
[04:06] <usr13> sap_: What is your problem?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Aleo: uhmm ok
[04:06] <arghx> jefimenko: as long as both show up, then both are enabled as far as X is concerned
[04:06] <tanath> Hordeking, if paid help isn't helpful you can always look for volunteer/user help
[04:06] <xangua> RingZer0: apt-get help | apt-cache help
[04:06] <RingZer0> thanks guys
[04:07] <RingZer0> i use to just use aptitude like on my rooted droid charge
[04:07] <sap_> actually when i try to play a video it plays normally suddenly video gets hang but audio goes on
[04:07] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yes just not sure why it disable it
[04:07] <martian> Aleo: no. The people in charge of the distro know better than your opinions.
[04:07] <robin0800> Aleo, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html has more details
[04:07] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: probaby some other plugin you enabled, disabled it
[04:07] <ectabyte> Gnome-shell has been having alot of issues with fglrx, so it might be a bug
[04:07] <RingZer0> martian: lmao.  that was funny
[04:07] <ibqn> is there a pdf plug-in available for chromium browser?
[04:07] <sap_> after 5-7 seconds it again plays
[04:07] <ectabyte> My volume applet is blinking on and off too so
[04:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> ibqn: doesnt google docs have one built it that it uses
[04:08] <RingZer0> martian: you are 99.9% right... there is a .1% chance he is just a super-human ... well, more like .000001%
[04:08] <Aleo> martian, it seems they don't have thinked that some people like to costumize things
[04:08] <adminscout> hello
[04:08] <Aleo> robin0800, thks going to see
[04:08] <Aleo> :)
[04:08] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, thats the odd part all I did was install it didnt play with any of them
[04:08] <xangua> ibqn: not in chromium but google chrome has
[04:09] <Flannel> robin0800: Please don't link to things like that in here.
[04:09] <tanath> martian, what's with the bad attitude? they may know what's better on average (ie., for most people), but if an individual says something else is better for them, who are they to disagree?
[04:09] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, I hit the preferences button and it locked up
[04:09] <sap_> usrl13 do u have any solution
[04:09] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: oh
[04:09] <xangua> ibqn: if you preffer chromium there are totorials to add google's chrome pdf reader to chromium
[04:09] <usr13> sap_: What kind of video ?
[04:09] <RingZer0> im trying to install php... is the php5 inside apt-cache search php v. 5.3.6 ?
[04:09] <tanath> martian, disclaimer: responding to your comment which may be out of context...
[04:09] <ibqn> xangua, is there a chrome package for ubuntu?
[04:09] <xangua> tutorials*
[04:09] <sap_> movies like mp4, mkv etc
[04:09] <arghx> !info php5
[04:09] <martian> tanath: I was using heavy sarcasm... not sure if you got that :)
[04:10] <arghx> RingZer0: as you can see: yes
[04:10] <tanath> martian, oh, lol. like i said, out of context
[04:10] <usr13> sap_: What video player are you using?
[04:10] <sap_> vlc
[04:10] <arghx> ibqn: only google themselves distribute chrome, no one else can. ask them if they have a ubuntu compatible package
[04:10] <RingZer0> arghx: what do you mean "as i can see"
[04:10] <tanath> sap_, smplayer is a good alternative
[04:10] <martian> ibqn: you can get the deb from google's official site, and that will enable their repo for updates as well
[04:10] <arghx> RingZer0: check what ubottu wrote last
[04:11] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get upgrade vlc
[04:11] <studentz> jefimenko your  nvidia car  should work without any problem
[04:11] <ibqn> xangua, there is no such a big difference for me, but on gentoo I used precompiled version of chmome
[04:11] <sap_> ok
[04:11] <edbian> ibqn, There's also chromium-browser
[04:11] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:11] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get install gxine
[04:11] <dhruvasagar> Hi, it says some of the packages have been kept back from upgrade, I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as well but it still says the same things for those packages, what should I do ?
[04:11] <RingZer0> arghx: sweet, that's the version I want, how can i tell from the tty?
[04:11] <Noc2> .
[04:11] <tanath> people still use gxine?
[04:11] <studentz> jefimenko isit is active?
[04:11] <arghx> RingZer0: tell what?
[04:11] <jefimenko> studentz: the nvidia is
[04:11] <RingZer0> arghx: what version a package is..
[04:11] <xangua> ibqn: you can download google chrome from google chrom download page...
[04:11] <arghx> RingZer0: that it installs this version? apt-cache policy php5  for example
[04:12] <hansg01> plz help me to restore the grub
[04:12] <RingZer0> policy?
[04:12] <dhruvasagar> anybody ?
[04:12] <arghx> RingZer0: dpkg -l <package> if it's already installed. apt-cache show <package> if it isn't yet
[04:12] <hansg01> i installed fedora now no other os is being identified
[04:12] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yeah so I uninstalled it thinking that would fix it but no so reinstalled and saw that unity was disabled
[04:12] <studentz> jefimenko The driver is the same version that was before the update?
[04:12] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: ah ok
[04:12] <edbian> hansg01, You should really ask in #fedora  They will know better than us.
[04:12] <edbian> sebsebseb, hi
[04:12] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, now I am trying to figure out what the default settings where
[04:12] <tanath> hansg01, you can boot to the install disc to restore grub
[04:12] <sebsebseb> edbian: hi
[04:12] <RingZer0> arghx: and your paypal donate link is?
[04:12] <RingZer0> :)
[04:12] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: I think if you re enable Unity, it puts things back on the default settings anyway
[04:13] <edbian> hansg01, if you boot a liveCD (ubuntu) I can help you
[04:13] <arghx> hansg01: and if you restore grub like tanath suggests, then you can only use ubuntu and can't use fedora anymore
[04:13] <hansg01> edbian: yeah i hv
[04:13] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: or  would in your case
[04:13] <Arkaniad> Hey guys. Whenever I try to enable a gnome-shell theme, there is a weird title-bar behind the gnome shell bar on the top of the screen. I can also not get ThemeSelector extension to work. Any ideas?
[04:13] <jefimenko> studentz: i had the most up-to-date version in 11.04. i assume i now have the most up-to-date version in 11.10
[04:13] <arghx> RingZer0: this is free support. not paid support
[04:13] <edbian> hansg01, boot it, mount your ubuntu install (did you already?)
[04:13] <jefimenko> studentz: i'm going to try rebooting with the intel card to see if it makes a difference
[04:13] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yes you would think but it obviously enabled something else as there where conflicts and now nautilus looks different
[04:13] <tanath> arghx, sorry, didn't know he had other *nixes installed.
[04:13] <jefimenko> studentz: brb
[04:13] <ibqn> xangua, thank you
[04:13] <hansg01> arghx: i didnt got what tanath told me
[04:14] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: well worst case cienario re install 11.10 I guess
[04:14] <edbian> hansg01, I can fix this problem if you follow my instructions :)
[04:14] <arghx> hansg01: you want to install both fedora and ubuntu and want to boot both, right?
[04:14] <PunkUnity> just upgraded to 11.10 ad wifi keeps turning off and on which was never a problem on 11.04
[04:14] <studentz> jefimenko can you check the version using nvidia settings
[04:14] <hansg01> edbian: yeah i will
[04:14] <edbian> hansg01, :)  Did you boot the liveCD and mount the install?
[04:14] <sap_> usrl13 gxine is not showing
[04:14] <hansg01> edbian: yeah
[04:14] <dhruvasagar> Hi, it says some of the packages have been kept back from upgrade, I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as well but it still says the same things for those packages, what should I do ?
[04:15] <arghx> edbian: after your solution, will he be able to boot ubuntu and fedora both?
[04:15] <adityanoise> hi all :)
[04:15] <sap_> it get install but not showing
[04:15] <hansg01> arghx: yeah
[04:15] <studentz> jefimenko please check the OpenGL/GLX information
[04:15] <edbian> arghx, should be, yes
[04:15] <arghx> dhruvasagar: aptitude -s install <kept-package>
[04:15] <edbian> hansg01, sudo grub-install --boot-directory="/path/to/ubuntu/boot" /dev/sda
[04:15] <ArNezT> how to upgrade gambas 2 to gambas 3?
[04:15] <arghx> edbian: good. just checking
[04:15] <edbian> hansg01, I'm assuming you have one harddrive (/dev/sda) and you'll have to replace the path there with whatever it really is
[04:15] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get install gxine
[04:16] <hansg01> edbian: this i should run in terminal in live boot?
[04:16] <sebsebseb>
[04:16] <dhruvasagar> arghx: ok...but why are they not being installed ? everywhere I read dist-upgrade is supposed to fix it, but it's not so either
[04:16] <Milossh> hello. is 11.10 in beta now/
[04:16] <Milossh> ?
[04:16] <edbian> hansg01, yes
[04:16] <sebsebseb> !11.10 | Milossh
[04:16] <edbian> Milossh, No it's been released
[04:16] <hansg01> edbian: i will try it nw and let u knw
[04:16] <usr13> sap_: What video do you want to try and play?
[04:16] <RingZer0> i think this is the first version of any distro ever to come out with the actual current version of PHP, I am so impressed.  usually have to make myself
[04:16] <edbian> hansg01, k
[04:16] <axisys> how do hide the users from login screen?
[04:16] <hansg01> edbian: ne further steps required?
[04:16] <edbian> RingZer0, check out arch
[04:16] <usr13> sap_: See my pm
[04:16] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, do you have 10.11?
[04:17] <crash1hd> or 11.10 I mean
[04:17] <arghx> dhruvasagar: <dpkg> i heard kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available.  This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade.
[04:17] <Milossh> thanks. What about gnome 3? do we have standard gnome sessions? unity used to fail for me while 11.10 was still in beta
[04:17] <edbian> hansg01, You shouldn't need any.  Did it list all your OSs?
[04:17] <arghx> dhruvasagar: most likely you use PPAs
[04:17] <Milossh> it doesn't say much on the website
[04:17] <xangua> Milossh: unity runs on top of gnome
[04:17] <RingZer0> edbian: i will... lol, when i read your name, I am so dyslexic (spelling) that I see debian
[04:17] <arghx> !gnome3 | Milossh
[04:17] <edbian> RingZer0, I use Debian :)  My name is Ed
[04:17] <dhruvasagar> arghx: yes I do and I understand everything you said, but a dist-upgrade is supposed to overlook that isn't it ?
[04:17] <hansg01> edbian:i hv to try in live boot currently i m on fedora
[04:18] <RingZer0> lol
[04:18] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: see my pm in answer to that question
[04:18] <usr13> sap_: What is the path the the video?
[04:18] <Vulpes> hi ubuntus, can I ask a question about the VNC port? after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10, my alternate port map won't take in VNC viewer requests. I'm looking at the gconf-editor in desktop>gnome>remote_access, alt port is in place & use_alternative_port is checked, & I have restarted. Have I forgotten something?
[04:18] <PunkUnity> let me know if you guys have any ideas
[04:18] <arghx> dhruvasagar: you might understand it but I think you didn't read it: "This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved"
[04:18] <Arkaniad> Hey guys. Whenever I try to enable a gnome-shell theme, there is a weird title-bar behind the gnome shell bar on the top of the screen. I can also not get ThemeSelector extension to work. Any ideas?
[04:19] <RingZer0> edbian: pacman huh?
[04:19] <sap_> avi, mkv, mp4, mpg these are the formats which i need to play properly and they are playing but the only problem is that suddenly it gets hang
[04:19] <usr13> sap_: Try playing it with gxine.  i.e.  gxine /path/to/video.mp4  or  mplayer /path/to/video.mp4
[04:19] <arghx> dhruvasagar: and for badly resolved dependencies not even a dist-upgrade can help. tho this should only happen with 3rd party repos
[04:19] <dhruvasagar> arghx: I think it's probably that there maybe some conflict in dependencies
[04:19] <arghx> dhruvasagar: what do you think I'm trying to tell you for the 3rd time already?
[04:20] <sap_> as u told i install gxine but its not showing in the application----sound & video pane
[04:20] <dhruvasagar> arghx: the package I am talking about is banshee, and I just checked and confirmed I don't have any PPA for it :(
[04:20] <arghx> sap_: have you tried other players and maybe checked your video driver setup?
[04:20] <soehendro> hello
[04:20] <l1nr007> how can i get arista work in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[04:20] <RingZer0> sap_: did you click on see all 29852 applications?
[04:20] <arghx> dhruvasagar: and what happens if you want to upgrade banshee explicitly?
[04:20] <RingZer0> I wanna "pin" terminal to my menu rather than this office junk
[04:20] <PunkUnity> sap_ whats wrong with using vlc
[04:20] <arghx> !errors | l1nr007
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> arghx: aptitude -s install banshee didn't seem to go through, it asked me to accept it's proposed solution I pressed yes but nothing happened
[04:21] <sap_> same problem with vlc also it also get freeze for 5-6 seconds
[04:21] <arghx> !errors | dhruvasagar
[04:21] <arghx> sap_: and which videodriver do you use?
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> arghx: it proposed to remove unity and almost everything else!
[04:21] <usr13> sap_: Open a terminal and type  vlc /path/to/video.mp4
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> arghx: is it doing it in the backgroud or something !?
[04:22] <usr13> sap_: Or,  mplayer /path/to/video.mp4
[04:22] <usr13> etc
[04:22] <usr13> sap_: See my pm
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> arghx: man please explain how aptitude -s works
[04:22] <imperfect-> Is there an easy to use wmv->divx ?
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> arghx: the last line it said after I said 'Y' is will download/install/remove package
[04:23] <arghx> dhruvasagar: you cannot tell us your actual error and I cannot help you. please come back to me when you know how to ask for help. in the mean time I suggest you read stuff like http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/How_To_Get_Help_On_IRC#Provide_Enough_Information_To_Solve_The_Problem. have a nice day
[04:23] <dhruvasagar> arghx: forget the error man, I am asking something different now
[04:23] <dhruvasagar> arghx: just tell me how aptitude -s install works, I have never used it before
[04:23] <arghx> dhruvasagar: please forget I exist and read the exceedingly fine documentation of aptitude
[04:24] <dhruvasagar> arghx: it said that it will practically everything
[04:24] <sap_> nvidia x server settings driver 195.36.24
[04:24] <arghx> dhruvasagar: please stop addressing me. please?
[04:24] <dhruvasagar> arghx: can you please help men
[04:24] <mdkendall> Turns out that my no-password troubles were solved by tweaking policykit. Thanks for the help everyone.
[04:24] <JZApples> When upgrading Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, I don't need to worry about losing any data or setup, will I?  Software RAID array, Evolution Mail, and my backup configuration are high on the list of concerns.
[04:24] <dhruvasagar> arghx: man*, dude it will take me hours to read through doc
[04:24] <l1nr007> here.. please check http://pastebin.com/EDEMWeQX
[04:25] <arghx> sap_: please try another video player as suggested. not just vlc
[04:25] <dhruvasagar> arghx: all I need to know is if it will remove unity and almost every other dependent package sometime on it;s own, I did say 'Y', but it's not doing anything
[04:26] <Immatix> hello
[04:26] <usr13> sap_: paste the path to one of the video files here and we can give you specific command instructions.
[04:26] <sebsebseb> JZApples: well you might lose evolution as part of the upgrade
[04:26] <ubuntu__> how do you change the system font in 11.10??
[04:26] <sebsebseb> JZApples: since Gnome 2 isn't part of Ubuntu 11.10
[04:26] <Takyoji> JZApples: I'm using mdraid for RAID 1 right now, and I upgraded, and haven't had issues on that part.
[04:27] <dhruvasagar> someone pleaase help me for God sakes!
[04:27] <alvin47> why can't I mount other volumes? it says "Authentication is required" but I have only one user account. please help me
[04:27] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, with what
[04:27] <arghx> alvin47: how are you trying to mount them?
[04:27] <dhruvasagar> I did aptitude -s install banshee, it asked me to install some packages and remove some packages, I simply said 'Y', but then after that I noticed that it is going to remove almost everypackage related to unity in the system
[04:27] <LK-_> Hi, I've recently installed 11.10. Xchat isn't working properly. It fails after the first few lines have been sent by the server. However any other client even xchat-gnome works fine.
[04:27] <jiohdi> alvin47, nautilus has mount as root or superuser
[04:28] <dhruvasagar> at the end of it, it ended saying 'Would download/remove/install packages'
[04:28] <sap_> No such file or directory
[04:28] <sap_> libdvdnav: vm: failed to open/read the DVD
[04:28] <sap_> [0x98e9010] access_file access error: cannot open file /path/to/video.mp4 (No such file or directory)
[04:28] <sap_> [0xb7401890] main input error: open of `/path/to/video.mp4' failed: no suitable access module
[04:28] <Immatix> Does anyone have an issue with Gnome windows not remembering their position in 11.10?
[04:28] <xangua> LK-_: try original xchat ;)
[04:28] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, pastebin exactly what it says
[04:28] <dhruvasagar> when will aptitude install/download/remove the packages ? how can I stop it ?
[04:28] <LK-_> xangua: Did you even read my messsage properly?
[04:28] <JZApples> sebsebseb, that was what i was worried about.  So it will uninstall evolution and I will lose all that?
[04:28] <usr13> !dvd | sap
[04:28] <wiseqnet> fakap, ubuntu 11.04 not booting properly
[04:28] <xangua> LK-_: yes, try xchat instead of xchat-gnome
[04:29] <JZApples> Takyoji, that's good to hear.  I'm using mdraid as well.
[04:29] <sebsebseb> JZApples: maybe, but I don't know
[04:29] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: ok doing
[04:29] <alvin47> arghx: i changed to lxde and i open file manager then click on the side panel of volumes but i can't mount them
[04:29] <xangua> sudo apt-get install xchat LK-_
[04:29] <arghx> JZApples: uninstalling a program NEVER deletes userdata in ~
[04:29] <LK-_> xangua:>_<
[04:29] <LK-_> xchat is what's not working
[04:29] <sebsebseb> JZApples: and your user stuff for evolution will probably be ok
[04:29] <arghx> sebsebseb: not just "probably"
[04:29] <wiseqnet> will with fresh install later
[04:29] <JZApples> arghx, where does evolution save it's data?
[04:29] <bazhang> LK-_, whats the exact error. pastebin please
[04:29] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: https://gist.github.com/1289050
[04:29] <LK-_> There is no error. It simply hangs.
[04:29] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: please help me!
[04:29] <xangua> sorry then LK-_ ;)
[04:29] <Takyoji> I have XChat installed, but when you search for it from the Dash, it doesn't list anything; unless you explicitly click on the "Applications" icon on the bottom.
[04:29] <arghx> JZApples: either in ~ or in /var/spool/mail or similar. depends on your mail setup
[04:30] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, patience. I am looking now
[04:30] <l1nr007> hello
[04:30] <xangua> LK-_: if you run the comand in terminal you will see an output ;)
[04:30] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i've been thinking of just switching to thunderbird for some time.
[04:30] <LK-_> xangua: I know.
[04:30] <LK-_> xangua: It does not report an error there.
[04:30] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: the last 10 or so lines are probably the most relevant, I pasted everything for completeness
[04:30] <dhruvasagar> arghx: thanks for nothing
[04:30] <sebsebseb> JZApples: personaly if I was going ot use a email client I would use Thunderbird or maybe even  the email  client in Seamonkey,  but well never used Evolution as an actsaul email client before so hmm
[04:30] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, lose the attitude.
[04:31] <sebsebseb> JZApples: anyway web mail for me for now :)
[04:31] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, I am looking now, please be patient
[04:31] <sebsebseb> JZApples: of course there's Kmail as well for example, if you don't mind having KDE apps
[04:31] <JZApples> sebsebseb, yeah i used to use web mail and regret setting up evolution.  I had the
[04:31] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: all I want to know is did aptitude crash or did it stop or will it actually remove everything sometime soon, say when I restart or something ?
[04:32] <imperfect-> Is there an easy to use wmv->divx software availble int eh repo's?
[04:32] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i had the 'delete mail from server' option checked and it removed everything from the server so i just keep my own backup now.
[04:32] <LK-_> xangua: https://gist.github.com/4f7cb63623f1c8c8ded1 It gets that far. Hangs after that. Wireshark reports no further network activity from it until I /quit.
[04:32] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: I can see it asks 'Do you want to continue [Y/n/?]', I pressed 'y', is it case sensitive ?
[04:32] <sebsebseb> JZApples: oh ok
[04:32] <Guest6656> no
[04:32] <LK-_> It is case insenitive
[04:32] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i'd rather not use kde, gnome works great, wish Ubuntu would have stuck with Gnome 3
[04:32] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, I am trying to read, please be patient.
[04:32] <Takyoji> Anyone else having issues with 11.10 on a multi-monitor setup?
[04:32] <dhruvasagar> LK-_: was that addressed to me ?
[04:32] <HorizonXP> any reason why transferring a 217 gB tar.bz2 file to an USB 2.0 HDD is taking more than 12 hours?
[04:32] <imperfect-> Ident isn't working.
[04:32] <SetiAmon> Checking in.anyone have issues with sound in browsers(youtube etc) x64 11.10?
[04:33] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: ok I will wait for your reply
[04:33] <imperfect-> that's server side.
[04:33] <sebsebseb> JZApples: right, but you can use KDE  apps with Gnome, that's what I mean
[04:33] <Takyoji> or had issues (and got them resolved, which I'm looking for)
[04:33] <JZApples> sebsebseb, yeah i know
[04:33] <Takyoji> because it's 217GB? :P
[04:33] <arghx> bazhang: his initial problem was a kept back banshee. and from the paste he finally made it is clear that it's a libmtp8 versioning conflict
[04:33] <johndoe_> hii, i was wondering if someone can help me out with vgaswitcheroo
[04:33] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i'm kind of a linux newb so i'm trying to keep it simple for awhile
[04:33] <johndoe_> i have no idea how to install it or how to use it
[04:33] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | JZApples
[04:33] <bazhang> sebsebseb, evolution is in oneiric, it will not be removed if already there
[04:34] <SetiAmon> !sound
[04:34] <SetiAmon> :
[04:34] <JZApples> sebsebseb, yeah i'm aware of that.  Gnome 3 looks great.  I'm curious to see how Unity works in 11.10 but am hesitant to upgrade right away.
[04:34] <johndoe_> hi , can someone kindly walk me through how vga switcheroo works and how i can use it?
[04:34] <hansg01> edibian: error
[04:35] <sebsebseb> JZApples: it seems according to bazhang that upgrading  from 11.04 to 11.10, that your evolution  emails and such will still be ok. and I did say you probably have the settings for that in home or wheever it saves earlier anyway
[04:35] <bazhang> johndoe_, no need to repeat so quickly
[04:35] <arghx> johndoe_: it is "installed" by default since it's a kernel setting. do you have a /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo ?
[04:35] <hansg01> edbian: error
[04:35] <imperfect-> I really dislike unity
[04:35] <bazhang> imperfect-, thats not a support issue though
[04:35] <sebsebseb> !nounity | imperfect-
[04:35] <imperfect-> I didn't say it was
[04:35] <imperfect-> and it's already off
[04:35] <imperfect-> Just an observation
[04:35] <bulwynkl> is there an equivalent to logitech's setpoint?  I read the man page and now understand that -s is for 'simulate', @arghx you could've just told that to me, I don't care enough to resolve dependencies and install banshee than to screw my system
[04:37] <__machine> how do i make sure that dvbhdhomerun-utils service starts before tvheadend during boot?
[04:37] <johndoe_> arghx: thank you, but how exactly do i tell the kernal how to use the intelhd card instead of the ati discrete card t?
[04:37] <HorizonXP> is a 3.87 mB/s transfer rate typical for a USB 2.0 HDD?
[04:38] <bob_> Hi everyone ! :D
[04:38] <fritsch> HorizonXP: nope
[04:38] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you should get approx 20MB/s
[04:38] <hansg01> how to restore grub using live bot
[04:38] <fritsch> HorizonXP: alt least
[04:38] <qin> __machine: Upstart or cron?
[04:38] <arghx> johndoe_: echo "IGD" > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch   is typical for enabling the internal card and "DIS" would be for the discrete card
[04:38] <xangua> !grub2 | hansg01
[04:38] <HorizonXP> fritsch: that's what I figured. it's been degrading over the course of hours.
[04:39] <arghx> johndoe_: cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch   to see which options you actually have and which one is currently selected
[04:39] <HorizonXP> fritsch: it transferred like 85 gB within 3 hours
[04:39] <__machine> qin: i enabled auto start with update-rc.d tvheadend defaults and update-rc.d dvbhdhomerun-utils defaults
[04:39] <HorizonXP> the next 100 gB or so took like 9 hours
[04:40] <g0rs> i'd like to test dcc send here . Can anybody try? I will send a 100to 700 mb file
[04:40] <arghx> __machine: and enabled it at what point in the boot process? e.g. in the linkname "S??tvheadend" what number is "??" ?
[04:40] <johndoe_> arghx: thank you so much
[04:40] <HorizonXP> fritsch: actually, just looking at the processes in top, and mount.ntfs is running at like 99% CPU
[04:40] <HorizonXP> i'm on an i7, so I didn't notice any issues
[04:41] <johndoe_> arghx: this is the output and im not really sure what it means 0: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0 1:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0
[04:41] <HorizonXP> fritsch: could be a memory leak?
[04:42] <qin> __machine: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#start-depends-on-another-service
[04:42] <__machine> arghx: 20 for both dvbhdhomerun-utils and tvheadend
[04:42] <arghx> johndoe_: can you pastebin the output of lspci -nn ?
[04:42] <JZApples> Is it recommended to use Ubuntu 64-bit if you have a 64-bit CPU?
[04:42] <arghx> __machine: and the one you want to start later needs a higher number than the other
[04:43] <l1nr007> its related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arista/+bug/814911
[04:43] <arghx> JZApples: yes, within reasn. basically: if you have 4GB or more then use 64bit. otherwise stay with 32bit
[04:43] <ameer-ahmad> how do I know my CPU 32 or 64 bit?
[04:43] <JZApples> arghx, i do have 4GB.
[04:43] <__machine> arghx: what update-rc.d command do i use for that? is it wrong to use update-rc.d servicename defaults to auto start services like this?
[04:44] <lauratika> does anyone had any troubles disabling window decoration under gnome classic in 11.10?
[04:44] <crash1hd> Not that it really matters but can anyone figure out why it is when i log into my guest account the screen goes blank I see the mouse and as I move the mouse around parts of the screen become visible but not the whole thing?
[04:44] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you can detect a memory leak - just copy and look at the used mem
[04:44] <arghx> ameer-ahmad: cat /proc/cpuinfo   if the flags: entry contains "lm" then your cpu is 64bit capable
[04:44] <fritsch> HorizonXP: is your target encrypted? or your source ntfs?
[04:44] <johndoe_> arghx: also when i use the code "sudo echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch" it says no such commamnd found
[04:44] <HorizonXP> fritsch: target is not encrypted, but the target is ntfs. source is ext4
[04:45] <l1nr007> helloooo
[04:45] <qin> lauratika: Set !(any) in ccsm (or whatever is new name) for window-decorations
[04:45] <arghx> __machine: man update-rc.d  see the line "update-rc.d [-n] name defaults [NN | SS KK]"  it should be self explanatory what to use there
[04:45] <arghx> johndoe_: cause "echo" is a bash intrinsic command
[04:46] <HorizonXP> fritsch: interestingly, i have 12 GB of RAM, and looks like all 12 is being used
[04:46] <JZApples> So if I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 will it uninstall the synaptic package manager?
[04:46] <__machine> arghx: thanks
[04:46] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:46] <l1nr007> JZApples, No
[04:46] <freakabcd> I've been using Oneiric since a long time ago and had everything working *before* the release!
[04:46] <freakabcd> now there is no audio on the system after the latest update
[04:46] <lauratika> qin actually i want just my browser with no windows decorartion so i use & !name=opera as in 11.04 but aint working wondering if anybody notice this issue?
[04:46] <JZApples> l1nr007, awesome.
[04:46] <johndoe_> arghx: so what can i exactly do with that?
[04:46] <freakabcd> i think there is something wrong with either pulseaudio or dbus
[04:46] <freakabcd> i'm on x64
[04:46] <bulwynkl> anyone know how to assign actions to mouse buttons
[04:47] <sap_> usrl13
[04:47] <pangolin> freakabcd: that happened to me also, a reboot fixed it.
[04:47] <sap_> r u there
[04:47] <freakabcd> pangolin, except here, reboot didn;t fix
[04:47] <pangolin> freakabcd: sorry :/
[04:47] <JZApples> bulwynkl, i've had issues with pulseaudio in 11.04.
[04:47] <fritsch> HorizonXP: this is normal
[04:47] <arghx> johndoe_: you can use a interactive root shell with sudo -i and enter the echo command there. or you use a script that runs suid root or in root context
[04:47] <fritsch> HorizonXP: linux loads everything it can into ram
[04:47] <qin> lauratika: Something like this, me too opera ;) (any) & !(title=Opera)
[04:47] <fritsch> HorizonXP: why not using it, if it is there
[04:48] <freakabcd> i first tried to unload the snd_* modules manually and then did a modprobe snd_hda_intel to get them loaded back, after which tried restarting lightdm,pulse, etc. no avail
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: so all shared libs, stuff are loaded for fast access
[04:48] <sap_> usrl13 can u tell me how i can access the root account
[04:48] <johndoe_> arghx: alright perfect it went through
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: i think you hit an ntfs fuse issue
[04:48] <HorizonXP> fritsch: yeah, i figured so, but it usually isn't all 12GB. no biggie, doesn't seem like it's one particular process hogging it.
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: try to copy to another drive, which is not ntfs
[04:48] <freakabcd> pangolin, this seems a ridiculous situation. audiop working in all prerelease/nightly versions but the final release
[04:48] <freakabcd> :(
[04:48] <lauratika> qin is working for you this way?
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: for testing
[04:48] <HorizonXP> fritsch: yeah, i think so too, Google seems to show results highlighting NTFS issues
[04:49] <HorizonXP> fritsch: i don't have another non-NTFS drive, except for network shares
[04:49] <freakabcd> at first i thought it must be a kernel/driver issue. then when i checked logs, etc. nothing to show such is the case
[04:49] <ArNezT> where do I get repo for upgrade gambas 2 to gambas 3 for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:49] <HorizonXP> which I am already copying to
[04:49] <arghx> johndoe_: I'm not totally sure vgaswitcheroo works with your hardware. the output is very very sparse :(  I guess the numbers relate to your PCI slots but since you didn't pastebin the lspci command I cannot be sure
[04:49] <freakabcd> it is definitely a pulseaudio/dbus problem
[04:49] <phiscibe> freakabcd: i hate to mention the obvious, but always check the mixer volume levles, the often get set to zero or mute is turne on alsamixer in terminal is a lowlevel way
[04:49] <fritsch> freakabcd: youre local disk you ar running ubuntu?
[04:49] <fritsch> freakabcd: sorry
[04:49] <fritsch> HorizonXP: your local disk are running ubuntu?
[04:49] <HorizonXP> approximately 110 gB in just over 3 hours so far
[04:50] <johndoe_> arghx: im not really sure on how to pastebin the lspci command
[04:50] <sap_> can any tell me how to access root account
[04:50] <fritsch> HorizonXP: thats just oky
[04:50] <freakabcd> Philosoraptor, everything is maxed out. kubuntu x64 here. and kmix shows hardware information as alsa, alsa+oss
[04:50] <HorizonXP> fritsch: local disk is split between ubuntu and windows 7
[04:50] <HorizonXP> 2 partitions
[04:50] <arghx> howaaa1: ntfs is using fuse and fuse is very very slow. coupled with usb access which sucks as well, it might just be that it can't go faster,
[04:50] <phiscibe> lspci >anytextfile will send it to a file
[04:50] <JZApples> arghx, so if I upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 32-bit to 11.10 64-bit, will i have issues?  am i going to need to reinstall all my apps and find 64-bit versions?
[04:50] <freakabcd> after yesterdays updates, my Xorg is also screwed up sometimes
[04:50] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you could copy from usb to ubuntu?
[04:50] <arghx> JZApples: you cannot upgrade frm 32bit to 64bit
[04:50] <fritsch> HorizonXP: or is your usb2.0 drive ntfs?
[04:50] <HorizonXP> external hdd is NTFS for stupid windows compatability reasons
[04:51] <freakabcd> i lose input from keyboard/mouse sometimes and after a while switching to VT and back, etc. its back
[04:51] <HorizonXP> fritsch: usb2.0 drive is ntfs
[04:51] <fritsch> HorizonXP: outsch, okay
[04:51] <sanu01> guys how can i install gnome 3.2 in 11.10?
[04:51] <freakabcd> so i'm mopre leaning towards dbus being the problem
[04:51] <phiscibe> dont think you can upgrade 32bit to 64 bit, need all new
[04:51] <fritsch> !nounity | sanu01
[04:51] <JZApples> arghx, i should probably just back everything up and do a fresh install.
[04:51] <arghx> JZApples: if you want go 64bit, there is no other way
[04:51] <freakabcd> is there a way i can check the history of what packages were added recently for upgfrade?
[04:52] <aperson> I some how managed to suspend one of my gnu screen windows, I know the program isn't suspended, but it's just sitting there and isn't outputting anything more.  what might I have hit and how might I restore the program?
[04:52] <SetiAmon> so no one has issues with sound in browsers on 11.10 here?
[04:52] <JZApples> arghx, thanks.  I really wish i would have thought that out more when I first installed.
[04:52] <fritsch> aperson: screen -dr
[04:52] <sanu01> ubottu, any problems with stability?
[04:52] <fritsch> aperson: just in another shell, if there are more, you can specificy screen -dr PID
[04:52] <arghx> aperson: can you switch to toher screen windows?
[04:53] <sanu01> anyone using gnome 3.2 in 11.10? how stable is it?
[04:53] <jayden> in Jockey, post-release updates is better than the normal one right?
[04:53] <Stanley00> sanu01: not working in my case :))
[04:53] <johnjohn101> sanu01:  i used it and it works, slow but beautiful
[04:53] <aperson> fritsch: fritsch no dice.  It's aptitude that's frozen, so I really don't want to kill it if I don't have to
[04:53] <sanu01> oki
[04:54] <aperson> arghx: yessir
[04:54] <fritsch> aperson: it does not be killed
[04:54] <fritsch> aperson: it just detaches and reaattaches
[04:54] <aperson> fritsch: no, that didn't work
[04:54] <fritsch> aperson: what did the computer say, when you entered that command?
[04:54] <aperson> fritsch: nothing
[04:54] <sap_> ubottu how can i access my root account?
[04:54] <qin> lauratika: It should. I do not have any decors.
[04:55] <Stanley00> !root | sap_
[04:55] <sap_> ameer can u help me
[04:55] <DanaG> interesting: http://mirrors.calpoly.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/
[04:55] <aperson> fritsch: the window just froze.  I can type in it, but it doesn't respond to anything.  I even (desperately) tried a ^c in it, but it doesn't respond
[04:55] <DanaG> there's armel dove and i.mx51.
[04:56] <DanaG> Are those boards actually now available?
[04:56] <fritsch> aperson: mmh so this is not a screen issue
[04:56] <phiscibe> there is no root account in ubuntu
[04:56] <ameer-ahmad> sap_, wassup
[04:56] <lauratika> qin: you mean your browser has no close, maximize, minimize buttons and window decoration?, are you under gnome classic in 11.10?
[04:56] <DanaG> I looked a year ago, and couldn't find where to buy one.
[04:56] <fritsch> aperson: sorry, don`t know
[04:56] <arghx> DanaG: yes
[04:56] <qin> lauratika: What is in command box? /usr/bin/compiz-decorator ?
[04:56] <aperson> fritsch: dang :S, thanks anyways
[04:56] <Lafiir> Did GStreamer loose support for .mp4 video files in 11.10? I can't play them in totem, nor do I get thumbnails for them.
[04:56] <sap_> bro can u tell me how can i access my root account
[04:56] <qin> lauratika: No, 10.10
[04:56] <bazhang> sap_, read the links given. use sudo
[04:56] <arghx> DanaG: efika is i.mx51 hardware
[04:56] <ameer-ahmad> gksudo nautilus
[04:56] <ameer-ahmad> sap_, gksudo nautilus
[04:57] <Stanley00> sap_: on Ubuntu? you cant, just use sudo or gksu ...
[04:57] <phiscibe> sap_:   there is no root account in ubuntu, the sudo command can give you root privlleges
[04:57] <DanaG> And yet, no beagleboard (and such) official images.
[04:57] <lauratika> qin im in oneric 11.10 it used to work ok in natty
[04:57] <__machine> arghx: i changed dvbhdhomerun to start at 10, sickbeard and couchpotato at 20, and tvheadend at 30… but dvbhdhomerun is still not ready by the time tvheadend starts? are the services started sequentially?
[04:57] <arghx> __machine: that's a bad idea
[04:57] <ryty> hi all
[04:57] <HorizonXP> you have got to be kidding me
[04:57] <DanaG> I decided to get myself an HP Microserver instead of an ARM with limited throughput.
[04:58] <arghx> you should not use a number lower than 20
[04:58] <ryty> I have a fun little issue that has re-appeared from previous version of ubuntu (now on 11.10)
[04:58] <qin> lauratika: Do you run compiz? Which decorator?
[04:58] <sap_> thanks stanley00
[04:58] <DanaG> Now, if only the btrfs devs would make a fscking... fsck, that can actually fix things.
[04:58] <arghx> DanaG: do you have an actual ubuntu related support question?
[04:58] <ryty> My MX5000 keyboard and MX1000 mouse don't work like they're supposed to
[04:58] <HorizonXP> this bug in ntfs-3g has been filed since 2009-06-25
[04:58] <sap_> thanks ameer
[04:58] <HorizonXP> that's 2 years without a fix
[04:58] <__machine> whats a bad idea?
[04:58] <__machine> arghx: whats a bad idea?
[04:58] <HorizonXP> it's confirmed, and apparently been fixed upstream
[04:58] <arghx> __machine: starting anything at 10
[04:58] <HorizonXP> but somehow, 4 versions of Ubuntu are affected, and continue to be
[04:58] <HorizonXP> ridiculous
[04:58] <sap_> is any one aware with Osirix
[04:59] <DanaG> Okay, here's an actual question:
[04:59] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/856882
[04:59] <DanaG> What the heck good is it to mark a public bug a duplicate of a private bug>
[04:59] <HorizonXP> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/392204
[04:59] <DanaG> ?
[04:59] <__machine> arghx: why? sabnzbd starts at K02 which is setup by the package installer… and the others that i setup are K10 K20 K30 … vmware tools is K38 … ?
[04:59] <arghx> DanaG: you need to understand what a "question" is I think....
[04:59] <lauratika> qin yes
[04:59] <arghx> __machine: K02 doesn't start anything, it "K" stops things
[05:00] <DanaG> Okay, then what do you do to un-duplicate the "child" bug, or get the parent un-private?
[05:00] <ryty> My MX1000 mouse won't pair to bt
[05:00] <ryty> the keyboard does, but if it's anything like the problem I had before, will be rather intermittent in successful pairing
[05:00] <sap_> any1 knows OsiriX
[05:00] <__machine> arghx: sorry i must have been looking in the wrong runlevel folder
[05:00] <qin> lauratika: ps aux | grep decor
[05:00] <ryty> how do I change my hid driver to hidraw?
[05:00] <DanaG> ryty: I've had much better luck with blueman than with the regular bluetooth applet.
[05:01] <arghx> __machine: personally I would use S40 S41 S42... if I were you. but your choice
[05:01] <Ravnac> Greetings: I probably messed up my Ubuntu (11.10) as I tried to install Kubuntu via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. After a reboot my Desktop looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/obqk4.png and I have no graphical UI - any1 able to help me? :(
[05:01] <ryty> DanaG, I'll try it
[05:01] <__machine> arghx: i will change it… but still… hdhomerun doesnt seem to be ready by the time that tvheadend starts?
[05:01] <HorizonXP> fritsch: soo.... will this file even finish transferring? or should i give up on it?
[05:01] <DanaG> okay, another valid question: why do links in pidgin open in xlinks2?  That's just weird.
[05:02] <arghx> __machine: normally it is started sequentially. if it doesn't work like you want, I suggest you write some upstart jobs for it
[05:02] <Ravnac> re, disc :(
[05:02] <GennyRondix> salve
[05:02] <lauratika> qin :10608  0.0  0.0   5660   800 pts/0    S+   00:02   0:00 grep --color=auto decor
[05:02] <GennyRondix> !list
[05:02] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you can look with du -sh
[05:02] <fritsch> HorizonXP: if the size changes
[05:03] <Ravnac> So, does anyone know how or where I can fix my UI? :[
[05:03] <qin> lauratika: So compiz-decorator is not running?
[05:03] <ryty> DanaG, didn't work any better
[05:03] <DanaG> Ooh, gnome-shell has native wacom settings!
[05:03] <johndoe_> Ravnac: whats wrong with your ui?
[05:03] <reisio> DanaG: settings?
[05:03] <HorizonXP> fritsch: the size is changing, just more slowly than before. I fear that eventually, the transfer rate will become 0 and stop completely.
[05:04] <point_> what's the command to extract a .tar.bz2?
[05:04] <ryty> tar xvf <filename>
[05:04] <reisio> point_: -xjf
[05:04] <DanaG> Yeah, in gnome-control-center in oneiric.
[05:04] <DanaG> gnome-control-center: /usr/lib/control-center-1/panels/libwacom-properties.so
[05:04] <aperson> fritsch: fwiw, I pkill'd aptitude and it resumed it :(
[05:04] <DanaG> Wacom tablet PC.
[05:04] <point_> ryty, thanks
[05:04] <sap_> which virtual software i can use in Ubuntu to install MAC- snow leopard10.6
[05:04] <Ravnac> I installed Ubuntu 11.10, then decided Kubunto looked better and installed it via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and removed the ubuntu one. Now my UI's quite clear and has no real UI (like this: http://i.imgur.com/obqk4.png)
[05:04] <DanaG> Too bad this system I got secondhand is pen-only.  :(
[05:04] <Ravnac> johndoe_:
[05:04] <DanaG> Pen-only is like the worst of both worlds.
[05:04] <reisio> sap_: probably any
[05:04] <lauratika> qin: if i type compiz-decorator decorations /usr/bin/unity-window-decorator: Ignoring unknown or already-used button name "menu "
[05:05] <sap_> reisio is vmware deals with ubuntu well? or not
[05:05] <reisio> sap_: well enough
[05:06] <sap_> reisio do u know about the Osirix software
[05:06] <phiscibe> Ravnac: what does alt+f2 do, it should open krunner or whater it is calle
[05:06] <phiscibe> Ravnac: what does alt+f2 do, it should open krunner or whater it is called
[05:06] <qin> lauratika: in "command" field (ccsm, windows decor), you can set preffered decorator, but dunno how it will react in Oneiric...
[05:06] <reisio> sap_: what about it
[05:07] <arghx> sap_: ask your real question
[05:07] <phiscibe> you may be missing the plasma parts
[05:07] <Ravnac> phiscibe: ALT F2 does nothing.
[05:07] <phiscibe> can you right click and get a menu, with add panel, default panel
[05:07] <sap_> I want to install Osirix but its not installing in ubuntu
[05:07] <fritsch> HorizonXP: so wait and see :-)
[05:07] <arghx> !errors | sap
[05:07] <fritsch> aperson: mmh, i think it did not get killed
[05:08] <reisio> sap_: it's not really designed to
[05:08] <sap_> ok
[05:09] <reisio> sap_: don't see why it wouldn't work in Mac OS in a VM, though
[05:09] <aperson> fritsch: after I pkill'd it, the window went back to normal and I resumed what I was doing
[05:09] <HorizonXP> fritsch: well, it's probably going to take all weekend. it's my work computer, so here's hoping the power doesn't cut out.
[05:10] <Ravnac> phiscibe: Right Click just shows me "Create New Folder", "Create New Docment" and so on
[05:10] <phiscibe> you have some odd mix of desktops with missing comonents or something
[05:10] <DanaG> gnome-shell works quite well on a 915gm, once you force it to use Intel instead of fbdev.
[05:10] <sap_> reisio it works on MAX OS in VM but only problem is with CT's they won't play properly Osirix is a open source PACS
[05:10] <Ravnac> phiscibe: Yes, looks like that :[
[05:11] <D_Russ> anyone know a command to reset application to default settings? qbittorrent?
[05:11] <arghx> sap_: if you don't paste the actual problems you have installing osirix, no one can help you with it
[05:11] <reisio> sap_: only problem is what?
[05:11] <phiscibe> OsiriX 3.9 and higher requires MacOS 10.6 or higher
[05:12] <aperson> D_Russ: delete its configuration in your home folder
[05:12] <reisio> D_Russ: ls -a ~/ | grep -i tor
[05:12] <D_Russ> how do i find it
[05:12] <Ravnac> Any1 know a way to create a bootable USB-Stick if you only have access to the console and usb-creator doesn't work? :(
[05:12] <lauratika> qin: got disconected
[05:13] <aperson> Ravnac: I'm not entirely sure, but unetbootin might have a command line mode
[05:13] <yagoo> Ravnac, what do u mean?
[05:13] <pooltable> help how to installed install-crossover-games-demo-10.1.1.bin
[05:13] <phiscibe> sap_:  OsiriX is for macs, try Aeskulap - DICOM Viewer
[05:13] <D_Russ> aperson, cant find the config file
[05:13] <arghx> pooltable: try sudo sh install-crossover-games-demo-10.1.1.bin
[05:13] <pooltable> who has 11.10 installed is there a way to turn off ubity?
[05:13] <arghx> !tell Ravnac about doesn't work
[05:13] <sap_> it get crash when i remotely login to MAC system when i click on CT's it gets crash
[05:14] <arghx> !nounity > pooltable
[05:14] <reisio> sap_: inside VMware?
[05:14] <sap_> phiscibe is Aeskulap is also a open pacs
[05:14] <D_Russ> reisio, thats the command for qbittorrent
[05:14] <yagoo> i'd like to know about ravnac's question-- is there such a tool?
[05:14] <sap_> reisio yes inside vmware
[05:14] <reisio> D_Russ: ?
[05:15] <D_Russ> the command you gave me
[05:15] <reisio> sap_: what sort of processor/ram does the host OS have?
[05:15] <D_Russ> that will reset its settings
[05:15] <reisio> D_Russ: no, that'll tell you where the config dir is, unless it's in ~/.config/
[05:15] <phiscibe> Ravnac: if you add the kde workspaces you might get a tray or something
[05:15] <D_Russ> ohh ok
[05:15] <sap_> I5, 2TB, 6GB ddr3
[05:15] <pooltable> arghx sh: Can't open install-crossover-games-demo-10.1.1.bin
[05:15] <reisio> tradition would be ~/.qbittorrent/ or ~/.qbittorrentrc or ~/.config/qbittorrent/
[05:15] <Ravnac> phiscibe: How do I do that?
[05:15] <arghx> D_Russ: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qbittorrent/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions_%28FAQ%29#Where_does_qBittorrent_save_its_settings.3F
[05:16] <D_Russ> it came back with .bash_history
[05:16] <reisio> D_Russ: right, because hisTORy
[05:16] <arghx> D_Russ: found with a simple: http://www.google.com/search?q=qbitorrent+config+file
[05:16] <Ravnac> I installed usb-creator via "sudo apt-get install usb-creator (kde and gtk) and the command, "usb-creator" just responds with "command not found"
[05:16] <D_Russ> thanks arghx
[05:16] <reisio> Ravnac: sudo usb-creator?
[05:17] <Ravnac> Same result
[05:17] <reisio> Ravnac: dpkg -L usb-creator
[05:17] <kfizz> Is there anyway to get old panel applets (like processor temp, processor load, etc.) in gnome 3. I know 3.0 and 2.0 are a little different, but I miss my panel applets.
[05:17] <reisio> Ravnac: dpkg -L usb-creator | grep bin
[05:17] <ghostnik11> hi can thunderbird's calender be integrated into ubuntu 11.10 gnome 3 calender on the desktop b/c when i click on it, it says evolution command not found
[05:17] <phiscibe> look in the package manager for kdebase-workspace, not sure what it might be called in 11.10, but maybe you want to go the other way and fix the missing unity stuff
[05:17] <yagoo> Ravnac, thought u said something about unetbootin
[05:17] <Ravnac> yagoo: no :(
[05:17]  * frull hallo
[05:18] <reisio> hi
[05:18] <ghostnik11> the one where you know the day of the week and the clock and u click on it and calender comes down, well can thunderbird calender be integrated into that or no?
[05:18]  * frull : am need make auth my  ubuntu vid tutorial how can i do that ?
[05:18] <arghx> frull: "make auth"?
[05:18] <reisio> ghostnik11: I'd be surprised if thunderbird came with such a feature, but you might be able to find an addon/script
[05:19] <phiscibe> ghostnik11: that is some type of widget or something
[05:19] <frull> arghx, make authentication, like copy right my video
[05:20] <keith-linux1122> how secure is ubuntu1
[05:20] <arghx> !id | frull
[05:20] <frull> arghx, am used ubuntu 11.04 and need make authentication my vid tutorial,
[05:20] <ghostnik11> reisio: thanks, thats very disappointing; phiscibe: no its not its the where the clock is you click on it and it comes down when i go to calender in the drop down and click on it, it talks about the evolution program, how can it be a widget but its built in?
[05:20] <phiscibe> keith-linux1122: depends on how stoopid the user is
[05:20] <frull> arghx, no body on ubuntu indonesia brotha.
[05:20] <arghx> frull: and ubuntu doesn't have software for DRM
[05:21] <frull> arghx, DRM ?
[05:21] <arghx> Ravnac: can you pastebin the output of the command reisio gave you?
[05:21] <arghx> frull: digital restriction management
[05:21] <almoxarife1> ghostnik11: yes, you can, but I believe 'evolution' will be the calendar that comes up, but you may be able to sync google to evolution calender
[05:21] <reisio> ghostnik11: you know you don't have to use thunderbird just because Ubuntu switched to using it by default
[05:21] <Ravnac> arghx: The command-prompt is "usb-creator-kde" - it worked now. Thanks.
[05:21] <arghx> keith-linux1122: nonsensical question
[05:21] <frull> arghx, what you ide for that
[05:22] <Ravnac> And not "usb-creator" as stated on kubuntu.org
[05:22] <phiscibe> the things that are built in are parts, widgets can be parts, i have not been using the gnome interface im using kde so i can answer you specificly ghostnik11, but i can say that calder programs can have their own data, use ical or a type of web dav, if the program is complaining about evolution , look to see if evolution is installed, evolution is  mail program like outlook with i think calender functions,
[05:22] <frull> arghx, i mean, did people know i make the vid tutorial with ubuntu, if i used drm
[05:22] <arghx> frull: "ide" is no sensical word in this context. try again please
[05:22] <frull> arghx, hhahahah
[05:22] <reisio> keith-linux1122: encrypt your data befora backing up to it and it's sure to be secure
[05:23] <phiscibe> ghostnik11: you can always find the program you were used to and add it back
[05:23] <frull> arghx, the simple thinks is am need make authentication my video with ubuntu. just like that like
[05:23] <reisio> frull: watermark?
[05:24] <daniel__> i have a problem connecting my samsung galaxy, says device could not be locked
[05:24] <daniel__> any ideas? is there a lock somewhere i should delete
[05:24] <frull> reisio, watermak not good ide, because watermark used for pic not on vid
[05:24] <yagoo> daniel__, wtf is a samsung galaxy? There's a google devices out there.
[05:24] <ghostnik11> phiscibe: thanks will just uninstall thunderbird and install evolution like you guys suggested, almoxarife1: will definetly do that just felt that there was a reason ubuntu team would take it out b/c they felt thunderbird was better or more advance meaning it would be good for everyone, reisio
[05:24] <phiscibe> daniel can u see terminal output, does it complain about dbus or something when u plug  it up
[05:25] <reisio> frull: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:25] <arghx> daniel__: does it connect as a mass storage device? and what is the actual error?
[05:25] <SetiAmon> so in everyones experience,are you having a lot of problems with 11.10
[05:25] <SetiAmon> oinic
[05:25] <arghx> !poll | SetiAmon
[05:25] <daniel__> no phiscibe, it recognises it and asks what to do...open in folder, etc
[05:25] <daniel__> it complains when i open it
[05:25] <reisio> ghostnik11: I can only imagine it has something to do with their Mac OS style scheme
[05:26] <almoxarife1> ghostnik11: you may be able to use thunderbird too, I am not saying it can't be done, best thing to do is try, if it does not work, then you know
[05:26] <qmanjr5> How do I check how much RAM I have?
[05:26] <SetiAmon> not really a poll i'm just wondering if many others are experiencing problems
[05:26] <reisio> Evolution is a much larger more comprehensive application, and is GNOME's default mail client (not that Ubuntu is big on default GNOME anymore)
[05:26] <SetiAmon> particularly sound issues
[05:26] <reisio> qmanjr5: free -m, top, htop, lshw
[05:26] <almoxarife1> reisio: is there a gui for that?
[05:27] <reisio> almoxarife1: checking RAM?  Probably
[05:27] <reisio> but I don't use GNOME
[05:27] <qmanjr5> Jesus H. Christ...why is WINE taking so much memory. ._.
[05:27] <yagoo> daniel__, maybe the jmicro mod needs to be loaded (check with -> lsmod|grep -i jmic)
[05:27] <reisio> 'Wine'
[05:27] <reisio> probably because the app you're trying to use via it is poorly made
[05:27] <qmanjr5> Sorry.
[05:27] <kfizz> Is there anyway to get old panel applets (like processor temp, processor load, etc.) in gnome 3. I know 3.0 and 2.0 are a little different, but I miss my panel applets.
[05:27] <almoxarife1> reisio: in ubuntu?
[05:27] <reisio> almoxarife1: ?
[05:27] <qmanjr5> I'm using Steam, reisio :P
[05:27] <Zypeh> hi
[05:27] <reisio> kfizz: gnome-panel, probably
[05:27] <arghx> qmanjr5: lshw | less is one way. ls -l /proc/kcore is another
[05:27] <daniel__> yagoo: yeah, no output
[05:27] <reisio> qmanjr5: steam is the very definition of poorly made :p
[05:28] <frull> am have vid tutorial for usued linux ubuntu, and am need to share it with my authentication on vid because i am not need any body change or modifi that vid tutorial
[05:28] <arghx> qmanjr5: or "free"
[05:28] <qmanjr5> how else am I gunna play CS? :(
[05:28] <reisio> frull: there is no way to prevent people from modifying a video you let them see
[05:28] <reisio> frull: the best you can do is watermark it
[05:28] <ghostnik11> almoxarife1, well i did try and looked for the addon for the integration with gnome 3 but its not there, reisio, wow i thought they only removed things because it was actually beneficial but i see your point the look of mac they might be thinking are more appealing to new people who are coming from mac to ubuntu
[05:28] <almoxarife1> gnome-system-monitor
[05:28] <kfizz> reisio, I mean is there a way to add applets to the now-title bar?
[05:28] <arghx> frull: what you want to do is not possible
[05:29] <yagoo> daniel__, maybe "modprobe pata_jmicron" will do the trick -- unmount (then unplug), then replug..
[05:29] <stevecam> is there a documented method for streaming my sound to a a link i can share on my LAN
[05:29] <reisio> ghostnik11: my best guess... Evolution is after all pretty much an Outlook clone
[05:29] <reisio> ghostnik11: we have a Mac user at work who hates it, prefers Thunderbird
[05:29] <arghx> stevecam: vlc has lots of documentation for example
[05:29] <almoxarife1> !gnome-system-monitor
[05:29] <reisio> kfizz: I'm sure there must be, sorry I don't have particulars; maybe search ubuntuforums.org
[05:29] <frull> arghx, why no possible, and reisio are watermark that good and can't modifying my video
[05:30] <kfizz> reisio, thanks. I've been search with no luck. It appears there's no way to do so.
[05:30] <reisio> frull: because anything a person can see and hear, a person can copy
[05:30] <arghx> frull: there is no way you can prevent people from modifying your video. if they can watch it, they can modify it.
[05:30] <reisio> frull: there is physically nothing you can do that will work 100% of the time
[05:30] <yagoo> reisio, especially me.. I have a chip implanted in my brain
[05:30] <stevecam> arghx, i want to route audio on my machine into a streaming media file
[05:30] <reisio> kfizz: I'm sure there must be, sorry I don't have particulars; maybe search ubuntuforums.org
[05:30] <daniel__> arghx: actually, now i get the dbus error