[12:41] <frans-th> wdh, i use in windows, 2.0 is very stable, and i want it in my ubuntu,
[12:41] <frans-th> wsh, how can you said it is unstable?
[12:42] <orhs_> hey
[12:42] <berkes> oowriter2: sys     0m1.336s | kword: sys     0m0.068s
[12:42] <wdh> frans-th, never mind.. do whatever you think you should do.. i think i said enough for now..
[12:43] <berkes> that is incredible! openoffice needs nearly 20 times as much time as koffice to load a file.
[12:43] <wdh> :)
[12:43] <orhs_> ya all know that ubuntu supports the "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" thats version 1.0 right? well ubuntu dosen't support my card but thats exactly like besides that it is Version 2.0 !
[12:43] <TengkSA> can someone please help me install frostwire
[12:43] <mwe> berkes: so what. who can't wait one second for a file to open?
[12:43] <frans-th> wdh, when will the stabel 2.0 can be run in ubuntu? must wait druppe?
[12:43] <ompaul> berkes, now make both of thise files around 10 megs and see see how long it takes
[12:44] <berkes> mwest: that is the system time
[12:44] <welp> how is ubuntu with bluetooth?
[12:44] <TengkSA> ANYONE?!!?
[12:44] <orhs_> good welp
[12:44] <berkes> the real time is 50 seconds vs 4.8 seconds
[12:44] <ompaul> frans-th, dapper
[12:44] <berkes> that is a minute vs instantaniously.
[12:44] <frans-th> ompaul, right :P
[12:44] <mwe> berkes: 50 seconds to open a file? your system must be broken
[12:44] <ompaul> !patients
[12:44] <ubotu> ompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:45] <berkes> mwest: no you are getting me wront
[12:45] <berkes> wrong
[12:45] <welp> orhs_, i have a PDA with bluetooth and if i get a bluetooth thing for my ubuntu laptop reckon i could use it?
[12:45] <TengkSA> ompaul, heya
[12:45] <wdh> for another matter: can anyone tell me how to get the usplash working on breezy? i upgraded it from hoary earlier.. but the usplash seems to fail on a message like: "insmod: cant read /lib/modules/xxxx/vesafb.ko"
[12:45] <ompaul> TengkSA, hello
[12:45] <berkes> 50 seconds to load a file by firing op openoffice completely
[12:45] <lucasvo> welp: I don't think WinCE will like it
[12:45] <Katie^> how do i run mplayer with GUI
[12:45] <orhs_> welp, Yes i think so. it worked fine between my cell and laptop
[12:45] <mwe> berkes: oh
[12:46] <berkes> my point is, no-one can deny that, that open office is HUGE, and quite slow, in doing stuff.
[12:46] <welp> orhs_, ok, thanks, do i need to install anything on the laptop or is it plug and play?
[12:46] <frans-th> hmb
[12:46] <wdh> berkes, it is huge.. but when loaded.. it can be quite fast though..
[12:47] <berkes> even compared to microsoft office it performs horrible. The reasons are obvious for a developer/tech savvy person. But the end user gets to see a bloated system
[12:47] <TengkSA> PLEASE will someone help me install frostwire???? **
[12:47] <orhs_> welp, Do you have any bluetooth programs installed ?
[12:47] <kestas> takes me 15 secs to open a doc in openoffice on a 1.5celeron 512mb ram
[12:47] <mwe> berkes: it took 15 secs here. but then again I run kde and oowriter uses gtk so it needs to load that too. I might have been faster in gnome. but yes oo is big
[12:47] <ompaul> berkes, discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:47] <berkes> ompaul: sorry :)
[12:47] <welp> orhs_, i'm installing ubuntu right now
[12:48] <ompaul> TengkSA, give it a few minutes before you ask again - maybe that no one knows
[12:48] <kestas> in the benchmarks oo.o performs better than MS office, but lower in features
[12:48] <wdh> TengkSA, obviously.. noone even remotely seems to know what frostwire is :)
[12:48] <docta_v> ompaul: wouldn't it just be sudo apt-get install frostwire
[12:48] <tHomE> hi i cant mount my windows partition mount say no volume but it still there ?
[12:48] <orhs_> oh. when it its finished and ubuntu is on the run. Go to synaptic and search for bluetooth there is a few applications u should install for activateing bluetooth on your machine
[12:48] <ompaul> docta_v, I don't even know what it is where it is from
[12:48] <wdh> TengkSA, ok.. "FrostWire is an absolutely free Gnutella P2P application"
[12:49] <berkes> getting back on topic :) you can install 2.0 on ubuntu, frans-th, but unless you experience instability, there is hardly any reason to do so. the version in ubuntu and the released 2.0 hardly differ.
[12:49] <mahangu_> inkscape asks me for a command to when i say to print
[12:49] <wdh> TengkSA, i recommend install "gtk-gnutella" from "System" -> "Administration" -> "synaptic package manager"
[12:49] <mahangu_> where would my printer be? (path)
[12:49] <ompaul> docta_v, it does not exist in main, universe, multiverse W: Unable to locate package frostwire
[12:50] <docta_v> ah...must be junkie then
[12:50] <Katie^> how do i run mplayer with a gui
[12:50] <TengkSA> wdh, but what if i wanna use frostwire
[12:50] <Kindred> the version of gtk-gnutella in the repos wont work, it was upgraded a week or two ago
[12:50] <cafuego> !find frostwire
[12:50] <wdh> Katie^, gmplayer
[12:50] <Katie^> thanks.
[12:50] <pigor_> hello .. i have made a fresh installation of my system and now cannot recover my evolution address book. i have copied ".evolution", eMails are there but now addresses :-( can anyone help me please?
[12:50] <mahangu_> would my printer be in /dev/ ?
[12:50] <frans-th> berkes, can explain more easily, is that mean, install ubuntu with oo 2.0 is not recommended?
[12:51] <ompaul> TengkSA, you can, but you have to support yourself, you should also be aware that installing random packages can break stuff
[12:51] <Katie^> Also, im trying to play a matroska file, and I've downloaded the codecs, should it work fine? or what?
[12:51] <berkes> frans-th: no, there is nothing withholding you from doing so. But it is unnessecary to go trough all that hassle.
[12:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'frostwire' returned no results.
[12:51] <wdh> TengkSA, obviously, we are not going to help you break your system :)
[12:51] <cafuego> frans-th: OO.o2 comes _with_ Ubuntu.
[12:51] <cafuego> TengkSA: Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[12:51] <berkes> frans-th: you will no longer have a vanilla ubuntu, and so, while you will not feel, see, hear any difference
[12:52] <Linuturk> I have a amd 64 bit processor. Should I install the i86 for better driver support, or would it be safe to install the 64 bit version? Would I get better performance out of the 64-bit version?
[12:52] <ompaul> frans-th, it is not built for breezy nor will it be, but you then have to manage any issues yourself you loose the security of the distro, as in others managing problems they become yours do this with 10 packages and you now have to watch a lot of stuff
[12:52] <cafuego> Linuturk: Will you need flash, java and video (movie) support?
[12:52] <Katie^> This is really starting to piss me off.
[12:52] <Linuturk> cafuego, probably
[12:53] <cafuego> Linuturk: Then i386 is the way to go.
[12:53] <ompaul> Katie^, language please
[12:53] <wdh> frans-th, upgrade to dapper next april.. it will have OOo 2.0 by then :)
[12:53] <Linuturk> cafuego, will I notice a big performance loss?
[12:53] <ompaul> Linuturk, if you notice it you will be sharpest person on planet earth
[12:53] <cafuego> Linuturk: Not on normal desktop work, no. Compiling will be slower, but unless you compile a LOT that shouldn't be an issue.
[12:54] <wdh> pigor_, try "sudo chown -R YOURUSERNAMEHERE ~/.evolution"
[12:54] <kestas> I want 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb' to run automatically at bootup, but I'm not sure how to do it cleanly
[12:54] <Linuturk> cool, sounds good, thanks fellas
[12:54] <kestas> I could always hack some rc file but I'd rather do it right
[12:54] <frans-th> wdh, in our experience here, in fedora, we never love to upgrade the OS, except bugs that annoyin gour work
[12:54] <cafuego> Linuturk: make sure /home is on a *separate* partition, then you can upgrade the system to 64bit at any time without losing any data.
[12:54] <frans-th> wdh, but i am think of ugrade my breezy to dapper :P
[12:54] <Linuturk> Ubuntu install takes about 3 gigs, right?
[12:55] <cafuego> Linuturk: around 2GB for the base desktop system
[12:55] <frans-th> Linuturk, the problem no in 3 gigs, but we have to coonnect to the net, and indonesian internet slow
[12:55] <Katie^> okay
[12:55] <Katie^> so i got it working
[12:55] <Katie^> but there's no sound
[12:55] <Katie^> ideas?
[12:56] <cafuego> !return
[12:56] <ubotu> cafuego: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:56] <welp> i bet everyone my sound will not work out of the box
[12:56] <cafuego> !enter
[12:56] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:56] <Linuturk> cafuego, well, it's good to have that padding there. Will packages be installed on the base system partition or the user file partiton?
[12:56] <cafuego> Linuturk: no software is ever installed to /home
[12:56] <Linuturk> cafuego, so tis better to have the base system larger for any apps I want to install
[12:57] <cafuego> Linuturk: So if you need 64bit, or wwant to change when it's mature, simply format the system partition, install, then re-mount /home.
[12:57] <cafuego> Linuturk: Yeah, probably 5GB just in case.
[12:57] <Linuturk> okie dokie
[12:57] <cafuego> Linuturk: Most stuff goes into /usr (3GB on my machine)
[12:58] <Caius> hey, is there an ubuntu ppc channel or do I ask in here?
[12:58] <cafuego> Caius: just ask
[12:59] <cafuego> (There's only 4 people on #ubuntu-ppc)
[12:59] <Caius> my machine is old and the hardware clock doesn't keep the time anymore, so the boot hangs on "setting system clock using hardware clock as reference" for a while
[12:59] <Caius> anyway to disable that?
[12:59] <Caius> or skip it
[12:59] <cafuego> Caius: Yep, there is.
[12:59] <berkes> bah, stupid me. I just opened .bash_profile and found that the ubuntu default for local, userspace bin is indeed ~/bin
[12:59] <Morrowyn> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=64336
[12:59] <Caius> cafuego: how!
[01:00] <Morrowyn> human theme wallpaper
[01:00] <Morrowyn> i created this morning
[01:00] <cafuego> Caius: sudo $EDITOR /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
[01:00] <Caius> cafuego: its still hung on setting the clock on bootup atm :(
[01:00] <cafuego> Caius: Under "HWCLOCKPARS" insert "exit 0" on a line by itself, without quotes.
[01:00] <Morrowyn> im off, cya
[01:01] <Caius> Morrowyn: cya
[01:02] <kestas> I want 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb' to run automatically at bootup, but I'm not sure how to do it cleanly
[01:02] <kestas> I could always hack some rc file but I'd rather do it right
[01:03] <cafuego> kestas: sudo $EDITOR /etc/default/hdparm
[01:03] <cafuego> 'defaults' even, I think
[01:03] <Caius> cafuego: its still stuck there :(
[01:03] <cafuego> Add in the disk and add in the parm. You may want -c1 and -u1 too.
[01:03] <cafuego> Caius: ctrl-c it
[01:03] <Caius> cafuego: no effect
[01:03] <cafuego> BenC: How's the new laptop? :-)
[01:04] <cafuego> Caius: ctrl-\ ?
[01:04] <Caius> cafuego: rebooted it, waiting for it to hang now
[01:05] <Caius> cafuego: nope
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: boot it with 'init=/bin/bash' as params to the kernel.
[01:05] <Caius> cafuego: pardon?
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: That'll teach it!
[01:05] <Caius> Linux init=/bin/bash
[01:05] <Caius> ?
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: When you get the yaboot prompt, 'Linux init=/bin/bash'
[01:05] <Stork> if my game is an .iso file how do i install it?
[01:05] <Caius> cafuego: OK
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: Yeah, that'll make it run a shell instead of the init scripts.
[01:06] <Caius> cafuego: I'm at home in bash :)
[01:06] <cafuego> Caius: Now edit /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
[01:06] <pm> hello dupki :)
[01:07] <cafuego> Caius: just insert 'exit 0' at the top of the file, that'll make it just exit,.
[01:07] <cafuego> you!@
[01:07] <pm> hello cafuego :)
[01:07] <pm> dupku :)
[01:07] <Caius> cafuego: k
[01:08] <TTilus> black-on-white xterm annoys me, how can i make it white-on-black?  (reverse video, xterm -rv or xterm -r does not help)
[01:08] <pm> hello TTilus :)
[01:08] <cafuego> TTilus: xterm -fg white -bg black
[01:08] <nailhead> pm jestes z polski :] ?
[01:08] <Stork> if my game is an .iso file how do i install it?
[01:08] <cafuego> TTilus: Consider rxvt, much nicer too.
[01:08] <pm> sorry?
[01:08] <cafuego> !pl
[01:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[01:09] <TTilus> cafuego: thanx that helped
[01:09] <TTilus> pm: hello
[01:10] <TTilus> cafuego: any idea why -rv does not swap colors, it used to work?
[01:11] <nailhead> i have  question how to install xmms ,i dont know how to do this becouse i have only one day this system
[01:11] <nailhead> so i dont know
[01:11] <TTilus> cafuego: what are the "much nicer" things of rxvt?  (convince me!)
[01:11] <pm> is there a version of kubuntu with kde 3.5?
[01:11] <ccooke> nailhead: Click System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:11] <ccooke> nailhead: then, search for xmms
[01:12] <nailhead> i try dpkg -i xmms.1.2.10 and nothing
[01:12] <pm> if so, where can i find it?
[01:12] <Caius> cafuego: just says "can't open file for writing: read only file system"
[01:12] <nailhead> ccooke i try this one but nothing happends
[01:12] <Caius> think I might reinstall it
[01:12] <ccooke> nailhead: double click on it when it appears in the list, say "okay" to any prompts about additional packages, and click the "Apply" button.
[01:12] <TTilus> nailhead: or $ sudo aptitude install xmms
[01:13] <nailhead> ok i will try
[01:13] <TTilus> nailhead: take a quick look on synaptic help, you'll learn alot
[01:13] <nailhead> wait a one moment :)
[01:13] <pm> xmms has ugly fonts
[01:14] <mwe> pm: yeah
[01:14] <Toma-> pm: bmp has nice fonts, and is exactly the same as xmms
[01:14] <pm> you have to work a little to get things better
[01:15] <pm> Toma-, amarok rules! :)
[01:15] <Toma-> bah, not in gnome :D
[01:15] <manuellord> alguem usa o ubuntu em portugal aqui?
[01:15] <TTilus> pm: depends mostly on the definition of "better"
[01:16] <Stork> gnomebaker gives me this whenever i try to burn an iso image onto my cd: ":-( /dev/hdb: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"
[01:16] <pm> much more advanced???
[01:17] <TTilus> !pt
[01:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:17] <pm> have you heard about songbird?
[01:17] <TTilus> manuellord: does that help?
[01:17] <pm> sounds interesting
[01:17] <manuellord> thank you ttilus
[01:18] <Stork> gnomebaker gives me this whenever i try to burn an iso image onto my cd: ":-( /dev/hdb: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"? it's a 4.7gb dvd-rw.. do i need just a dvd-r ?
[01:18] <TTilus> manuellord: yre wellcome
[01:18] <TTilus> Stork: is your drive recognized to handle dvd-rw
[01:19] <Stork> in the device settings it doesn't recognise the drive as being able to write anything
[01:19] <Stork> not even CD-R
[01:19] <TTilus> Stork: so, thats the problem
[01:19] <TTilus> Stork: somehow ubuntu thinks you drive is not capable of doing that
[01:20] <TTilus> Stork: is it?
[01:20] <TTilus> Stork: (just to make sure)
[01:20] <Caius> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/103.html
[01:21] <Stork> i should think so, how can i check?
[01:21] <TTilus> Stork: have you been able to write anything with it ever?
[01:21] <sdaserver> Question: What's the best way to make my ubuntu machine a dedicated server for Internet use on my network?
[01:22] <TTilus> sdaserver: what you want it to do?
[01:22] <TTilus> sdaserver: "dedicated server for Internet use" is rather vagye
[01:22] <TTilus> s/vagye/vague/
[01:23] <Stork> TTilus, nope
[01:23] <sdaserver> TTilus: I want it to stand as my Internet router, i guess
[01:23] <sdaserver> TTilus: I mean Internet gateway
[01:24] <sdaserver> TTilus: And then it should also work as my DHCP server
[01:24] <TTilus> Stork: try $ hdparm -i /dev/[cdromdev]
[01:25] <TTilus> Stork: what does it say the 'Model' is?
[01:25] <TTilus> sdaserver: dhcp server for "internal" network and NAT-router?
[01:25] <Qzxc> how many ubuntu versions are there i mean is there stable+ unstable or only 5.04 and etc ..
[01:26] <TTilus> sdaserver: install base system, configure networking to route and do NAT
[01:27] <delta> Hi.
[01:27] <sdaserver> TTilus: I'm a newbie in Linux (3 days old), and i'm still lost at how to configure networking services
[01:27] <TTilus> sdaserver: for nat your /etc/network/interfaces should have "up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o [externalinterface]  -j MASQUERADE" under you internal interface conf
[01:27] <Qzxc> ps anyone here uses Iwiz ? im seraching from to donload it ...
[01:27] <delta> I'm trying to burn a dvd-rw with gnombaker but it freezes. Any other application?
[01:27] <Qzxc> where
[01:28] <TTilus> sdaserver: you either edit text files under /etc/network or use gui tools provided
[01:28] <sdaserver> TTilus: The last thing I was trying was webmin, but i can't login
[01:28] <docta_v> delta: there's a version of nero for linux...i think there's a free trial version
[01:28] <TTilus> sdaserver: i prefer editing text-files, its simple
[01:29] <delta> docta_v, I'd prefer a GPL-like program. Any suggestion?
[01:29] <delta> docta_v, I mean GPL free :)
[01:29] <sdaserver> TTilus: I could try that, text-file editing
[01:29] <TTilus> sdaserver: i think you should start from linux tutorial before running into configuring router, ok?
[01:29] <sdaserver> TTilus: yeah, i'm researching online for more info
[01:30] <sdaserver> TTilus: I am getting what you mean though coz i ran across the iptables thing sometime yesterday
[01:31] <TTilus> sdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html
[01:32] <delta> Any pb with dvd+rw maybe?
[01:32] <TTilus> sdaserver: and keep in mind that ubuntu is a kind of debian
[01:32] <docta_v> delta: tried k3b?
[01:32] <delta> docta_v, not yet. But I will if you recommend it.
[01:32] <sdaserver> thanks TTilus
[01:33] <TTilus> sdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/users-guide.en.html
[01:38] <sdaserver> TTilus: Thanks for the links. i've been looking for stuff like this for a long time
[01:38] <takedown> hi there
[01:39] <wdh> can anyone tell me how to get the usplash working on breezy? i upgraded my system from hoary earlier.. but the usplash seems to fail on a message like: "insmod: cant read /lib/modules/xxxx/vesafb.ko" Anything i can do about this, apart from a reinstall of breezy?
[01:39] <takedown> i have a little question
[01:39] <TTilus> sdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/#manuals is the place for comprehensive manuals and tutorials
[01:40] <geert_> are your permission on vesafb correct?
[01:40] <takedown> i installed cedega on chroot on my amd64 breezy, updated to last version, but cedega dont see video drivers. How i can fix it? (sry for my terrible english)
[01:41] <takedown> i try to run a game, but game run very slowly
[01:41] <geert_> takedown, do you have direct rendering enabled?
[01:41] <takedown> yes
[01:42] <geert_> and you are using binary drivers?
[01:42] <takedown> takedown@breezy:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
[01:42] <takedown> direct rendering: Yes
[01:42] <takedown> yep
[01:42] <takedown> i installed drivers with instruction on ubuntu forum
[01:43] <geert_> hmm... guess that is as far as my knowledge of cedega goes....
[01:43] <geert_> I don't use it, coz I hate to pay
[01:43] <geert_> or use CVS versions...
[01:43] <geert_> sorry
[01:44] <takedown> so ok, may be someone else can help me?
[01:44] <TTilus> takedown: dunno nothing about cadega, but does the chroot env have required devices ( say /dev/dri/* ) available?
[01:44] <takedown> wait a minute, i go to see this
[01:44] <TTilus> (just guessing, if the prog inside chroot wants to use dri or like)
[01:44] <Caius> how can I enter a blank password or set ubuntu to auto login to my account?
[01:45] <Caius> is either possible?
[01:45] <geert_> try gdm configure program
[01:45] <TTilus> Caius: autologin is gdm conf
[01:45] <Caius> k
[01:45] <TTilus> iirc
[01:45] <takedown> i have card0 in /dev/dri on chroot
[01:45] <abelli> hi there
[01:45] <geert_> hello
[01:45] <TTilus> takedown: ok, then permissions?
[01:46] <takedown> crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 226, 0 2006-01-07 07:28 /dev/dri/card0
[01:46] <Zugot> if i have kubuntu installed, and i want the regular ubuntu as well, all i have to do is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, correct?
[01:46] <geert_> just, some side note, but have you tried a native linux 3d game?
[01:47] <geert_> Zugot, that is correct... however, you'll get a real populated menu
[01:47] <takedown> yes i have a native ut2004 and it works well...
[01:47] <Zugot> geert_: i can handle that...
[01:47] <Zugot> i wanna use kde, my girlfriend prefers gnome
[01:47] <ves> Has anybody got any idea what the "System terminal font" is?
[01:48] <Zugot> plus, i have the flu today, so if i screw it up, i have nothing else to do
[01:48] <abelli> is there any good guide for converting divx' into dvds'?
[01:48] <geert_> You can handle it...
[01:48] <takedown> TTilus: so, what do u think?
[01:48] <welp> how can i install fluxbox? what do i need to do?
[01:48] <ves> abelli: check out http://fredrik.hubbe.net/hacks/mkdvd.html
[01:48] <takedown> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:49] <geert_> btw Zugot, you can use smeg to hide those Kde entries for your girlfriend...
[01:49] <abelli> ves: thks
[01:49] <Kindred> !fluxbox
[01:49] <ubotu> well, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:50] <welp> thankee!
[01:50] <Katie^> how can I use Xine to play a movie?
[01:50] <takedown> xine filename.avi
[01:50] <Katie^> http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7gq.png
[01:50] <geert_> Have you got your win32 codecs installed?
[01:50] <takedown> or just type xine in console
[01:50] <bryanl> apt-get install gnome-desktop fineshed running in 3 minutes... i love my internet connection
[01:50] <Katie^> cmd not fond
[01:51] <geert_> sudo apt-get install xine xine-ui
[01:51] <Katie^> someone saids omething about using synaptic
[01:51] <abelli> ves: something more user-friendly?
[01:51] <abelli> ves: im talking about GUIs
[01:51] <googlah> hi ya guys
[01:51] <takedown> guys, who can help me with my cedega problem?
[01:51] <geert_> hi
[01:51] <googlah> hi geert_
[01:51] <Katie^> do I need to do something to the source list?
[01:51] <Katie^> http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7gq.png
[01:52] <bryanl> abelli: have a look at qdvdauthor
[01:52] <Katie^> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:52] <geert_> universe and multiverse enabled?
[01:52] <ves> abelli: I'm not entirely sure about that, maybe some guides over at doom9.org might help but I'm not sure if they're all windows programs mentioned.
[01:52] <TTilus> takedown: dont really know, that was my 5 cents  :)
[01:52] <googlah> Katie^, you probably need to add another respitory
[01:52] <takedown> damn
[01:52] <geert_> about that cedega problem... i really don't know
[01:53] <geert_> maybe check your logs for info
[01:53] <geert_> ?
[01:53] <bryanl> oh the flu sucks so bad..
[01:53] <Katie^> how do i do that
[01:53] <googlah> just a quick question everybody... how do i mark/select an entire text in pico or another texteditor?
[01:54] <geert_> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:54] <sdaserver> is there a way to access the terminal faster in ubuntu?
[01:54] <geert_> and remove the # before the lines with universe in them
[01:54] <takedown> what logs i need? just i see a my problem and i dont need to looks to logs...
[01:54] <googlah> Katie^, etc/apt/sources.list  and uncomment universe and multiverse.
[01:54] <takedown> what do u think? install fglrx in chroot can help to me?
[01:54] <Stork> how can i mount an .iso image without having to burn it to a dvd?
[01:55] <geert_> mostly x.org complains on a situation it can't use drm
[01:55] <takedown> Stork: mount -o loop
[01:55] <googlah> noone knows the answer on my question? 8)
[01:55] <Stork> takedown, hm? what's the loop?
[01:55] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[01:55] <Perversus> hi all
[01:55] <googlah> hi Perversus
[01:55] <googlah> what's up? :)
[01:55] <takedown> Stork: its a mount option
[01:56] <takedown> Stork: see man mount for more info
[01:56] <Stork> okay
[01:56] <geert_> takedown, it is in /var/log/x.org.... check for errors and warnings
[01:56] <Katie^> how do i uncomment them
[01:56] <Katie^> lol
[01:56] <geert_> hi Perversus
[01:56] <Stork> takedown, if the thing i was trying to mount was a game designed for windows, it probably wouldn't do anything if i just mounted it, right? i'd have to use it thriough wine?
[01:56] <Perversus> :)
[01:56] <geert_> just remove the #
[01:56] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[01:56] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[01:57] <googlah> :)
[01:57] <bryanl> the switch from kubuntu to ubuntu went well
[01:57] <bryanl> and quick
[01:57] <googlah> great
[01:57] <geert_> Now finally free of QT
[01:57] <bryanl> no... i like qt.. as a programmer, it is easier and more well thought out than gtk
[01:58] <Perversus> 1 question, I Have ubuntu but I want Kubuntu,Can you help me?
[01:58] <bryanl> i need to figure out why nspluginviewer/firefox were taking up 600MB of real memory between them this morning
[01:58] <googlah> i also wanna know how to switch to kubuntu
[01:59] <bina> Perversus: I think you just need to do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <geert_> It probably is... bryanl, never tried it, but they all say it...
[01:59] <Perversus> bina thank you
[01:59] <Madeye> any deb for php5.1.1?
[01:59] <takedown> Stork: loop option can mount games images like mds,iso etc.
[01:59] <bina> Perversus, apt-cache search <package> looks for packages that you can install
[01:59] <concept10> bryanl, becuase firefox has massive mem leaks
[01:59] <Perversus> :)
[02:00] <geert_> takedown, found anything in your logs?
[02:00] <takedown> nope
[02:00] <googlah> bina, yeah, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but there is another package called kubuntu as well. what is the difference?
[02:00] <abelli> bryanl: thank you.
[02:00] <abelli> ves: thank you.
[02:00] <tafsen> Anyone here that know rox?
[02:00] <bryanl> Perversus, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will do what you want
[02:01] <bina> googlah: I'm not sure, i dont have kubuntu on its own in my lists.  Maybe it installs everything kubuntu-ish
[02:01] <apinator> hi
[02:01] <CodenameKT> tafsen: rox-filer?
[02:01] <bryanl> anyone here using gaim 2.0?
[02:02] <SweetestSavage> bryanl, sorry mine is 1.5.
[02:02] <ROBOd> guys ... i have ubuntu 5.10 ... and i got samba ...looking with ethereal i noticed my computer communicates with the Windows server of my LAN ... querying for /Trash-robod/ .... of course the windows server always replies "no such name"
[02:02] <CodenameKT> bryan1: I am using gaim on occasion
[02:02] <geert_> Wish me luck people, going dapper... let's hope that I don't need a reinstall... be back in a minute
[02:02] <ROBOd> but Linux ... continues to query .... very very often
[02:02] <tafsen> CodenameKT, YEAH
[02:02] <ROBOd> it's almost like a flood
[02:02] <CodenameKT> bryan1: some reason centericq is messed up so i gotta
[02:02] <bryanl> i use gaim all the time
[02:02] <ROBOd> how to stop it?
[02:02] <bryanl> we have a jabber server at work that everyone uses instead of talking of the phone
[02:02] <CodenameKT> tafsen: What's your question. Even tho I don't know much about it
[02:03] <apinator> I'm little bit of lost... I just installd my first linux... Could some one tell me is in ubunt some kind of RPM program? =D
[02:03] <CodenameKT> bryan1: u had a question?
[02:03] <drpatate> Hi, I can't find a repository with WMII 3 ? anyone knows one or should I install the tar.gz package ???
[02:03] <bryanl> CodenameKT, nope... just curious
[02:03] <CodenameKT> apinator: ubuntu is a flavor of linux it uses the deb package system
[02:04] <tafsen> CodenameKT, Well, Im using OpenBox in gnome, and I have turned of Nautilus drawing desktop.  Now I need rox to have icons on my desktop
[02:04] <Katie^> ALL the universe and multiverse ones?
[02:04] <CodenameKT> bryan1: oh ok. well the only reason i don't use gaim is because i like the one a transparent term running centericq looks and it has smaller footprint on mem
[02:05] <CodenameKT> tafsen: that would be the pinboard option i believe
[02:05] <tafsen> CodenameKT, yes
[02:05] <CodenameKT> !rox-filer
[02:05] <ubotu> CodenameKT: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:05] <tafsen> CodenameKT, How do i use it?
[02:05] <tafsen> !rox
[02:05] <ubotu> tafsen: Are you on ritalin?
[02:05] <CodenameKT> lol
[02:05] <CodenameKT> be nice bot
[02:05] <tafsen> haha
[02:05] <bryanl> CodenameKT, ah... i see.  all my boxes have at least 1GB of memory, and my laptop has 2GB, so i don't even think about the memory
[02:06] <CodenameKT> bryan1: well, i have a gig but i usually like to keep 700mb free
[02:06] <wdh> after installing xubuntu-desktop, the usplash image is changed to one specific to xubuntu. I would like it to be the ubuntu one.. any ideas on how to change it??
[02:06] <bryanl> CodenameKT, i wish i could do that, but its hard with eclipse and mysql running all day :)
[02:07] <CodenameKT> bryan1: understandable
[02:07] <pm> i've got one question - how to compile a new kernel so as to be able to install nvidia drivers from repositories, not using installer from www.nvidia.com?
[02:08] <CodenameKT> tafsen: I can't give u a direct answer without doing a bunch of research but it looks like there is a good doc here at rox.sourceforge.net/manual/manual/manual.html
[02:08] <tafsen> CodenameKT, Ok, I take look. Thx
[02:09] <CodenameKT> bryan1: u said u use openbox
[02:09] <bryanl> anyone here use subversion?
[02:09] <CodenameKT> tafsen: no prob sorry i couldn't be more helpful
[02:10] <bryanl> CodenameKT, no.. i'm using not using openbox.. i don't really care for the minimallist windowmanagers
[02:10] <CodenameKT> bryan1: so let me guess u use kde\
[02:10] <CodenameKT> bryan1: biggest bloat of em all
[02:10] <tafsen> CodenameKT, ;) but the url you gave didn't work
[02:10] <bryanl> CodenameKT, yep...
[02:10] <bryanl> CodenameKT, kde is cool....   fish:// is worth the bloat
[02:11] <CodenameKT> tafsen: do a search in google for rox-filer pinboard and second link
[02:11] <bryanl> i'm in gnome right now
[02:11] <CodenameKT> bryan1: gnome is still way better than kde imho
[02:11] <bryanl> CodenameKT, to each his own...
[02:11] <bryanl> i like windows too sometimes
[02:12] <CodenameKT> bryan1: affirmative. lovely how we get a choice with linux no?
[02:12] <bryanl> :)
[02:12] <CodenameKT> bryan1: I am a gamer on my off period in which i tend to hafta boot up to windows
[02:12] <CodenameKT> bryan1: stinks alot of the cracks for games arn't linux based ;o)
[02:12] <bryanl> i only game on the consoles now... xbox 360 is enough for me
[02:13] <m0wax> CodenameKT: I would ask you what it is you like about Gnome, cos I am interested.  But I feel it might start a flame war with other people in the room :)
[02:13] <bryanl> plus.. i have way too much code to right nowadays to game at all
[02:13] <pm> Did anyone of you compile kernel on Ubuntu?
[02:13] <m0wax> I'll refrain ;)
[02:13] <bryanl> i like evolution or kmail... kmail keeps on screwing up my imap mailbox
[02:13] <bryanl> er i like evolution over kmail
[02:14] <CodenameKT> m0wax: It's no real evidence anyways I just like the look feel and once again less memory than kde. It seems to run smoother and less useless aps installed
[02:14] <CodenameKT> bryan1: thunderbird?
[02:14] <bryanl> thunderbird just doesn't do it for me
[02:15] <gnomefreak> thanks for reminding me :)0
[02:15] <bryanl> its kinda cool though
[02:15] <CodenameKT> bryan1: Imma go cry now
[02:15] <CodenameKT> gnomefreak: about what eh chap?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> thunderbird i forgot to install it yesterday
[02:16] <m0wax> Ok, I want to download ubuntu onto a flash key and install it from there........is that possible?  And if so how?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> !install
[02:16] <ubotu> from memory, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:16] <gnomefreak> there are the ways to install it
[02:17] <m0wax> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:17] <loreto> i need to find sb.ko module on breezy to install an old sb sound card, but i can't find that module, is avalaible for breezy?
[02:18] <ompaul> loreto, on my breezy box this exists /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko
[02:19] <googlah> 500kb/sec from the repositories. not too bad.
[02:19] <bryanl> googlah thats what i'm ge tting
[02:19] <ompaul> googlah, 5meg hmm
[02:19] <bryanl> time to install jboss
[02:19] <CodenameKT> ompaul: 5 meg is very roughly 5000kb
[02:20] <loreto> ompaul, do i need to install an special package?
[02:20] <loreto> loreto@loreto:~$ sudo modprobe sb
[02:20] <loreto> Password:
[02:20] <loreto> FATAL: Error inserting sb (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko): No such device
[02:20] <CodenameKT> loreto: oh the pw must be wrong what did u put again
[02:20] <bryanl> at the most with my connection, i should be able to download 750Kb/s
[02:20] <CodenameKT> :o)
[02:21] <ompaul> CodenameKT,  funny that
[02:21] <bryanl> my hosted server has a 10MB/s connection...
[02:21] <ompaul> Fetched 48.2MB in 11s (4274kB/s)
[02:22] <googlah> gdm or kdm ?!
[02:22] <googlah> just installed kubuntu-desktop.
[02:22] <ompaul> googlah, then kdm
[02:22] <googlah> had gnome before.
[02:22] <maskd> lol... i followed the xubuntu desktop guide, and im maxed out at 640x480
[02:23] <drpatate> I try to install a .tar.gz package but I need the binary "cc" in what package does it comes in ??
[02:23] <ompaul> loreto_away, it was just there when I installed and I use a not very new sb card
[02:23] <maskd> it's fun..
[02:23] <bryanl> i love java web start
[02:23] <ompaul> drpatate, before you do that what package ae you trying to install?
[02:23] <googlah> ompaul; roger... i chosed kdm.
[02:24] <googlah> thanks.
[02:24] <drpatate> ompaul: WMII latest version
[02:24] <cleo> drpatate: install build-essential
[02:24] <ompaul> drpatate, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:25] <drpatate> thanks guys, I not that noob, I thinkg
[02:25] <gnomefreak> there is no such thing as "just install" a tar :((
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i really wish there was
[02:25] <maskd> hey just wanted to ask, whats the cmd to reconfigure x.org?
[02:26] <pigor> ping
[02:26] <googlah> kubuntu-desktop is now installed. when the login-screen shows up, can i choose wether i'm gonna use gnore or kde?
[02:27] <TengkSA> How does one make a shortcut?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> googlah, yes go to sessions and choose kde
[02:27] <bpuccio> maskd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <googlah> gnomefreak, roger. but i suppose you don't like kde at all? :)
[02:27] <maskd> thanks bpuccio
[02:27] <gnomefreak> i use it googlah
[02:27] <pigor> TengkSA: in terminal with "ln -s <target> <shortcutname>"
[02:28] <googlah> gnomefreak, even if you're a gnomefreak? cool :)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> googlah, there are some apps that i like better on kde than gnome
[02:28] <pigor> is there a german speaking ubuntu channel?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !gr
[02:28] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[02:29] <gnomefreak> god im hopping that german
[02:29] <Kindred> wouldn't that be greek
[02:29] <TengkSA> pigor, would it be under command
[02:29] <CodenameKT> lol
[02:29] <Kindred> you might want de
[02:29] <gnomefreak> !de
[02:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:29] <gnomefreak> that is it ty Kindred
[02:29] <Kindred> hehe :)
[02:30] <TengkSA> !shortcut
[02:30] <ubotu> shortcut is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[02:30] <pm> problem with kernel compilation? ]
[02:30] <pigor> TengkSA: what do you mean with "under command" ?
[02:30] <pm> could anyone help me?
[02:30] <TengkSA> pigor can i talk to u in prvt please
[02:30] <maskd> ahhh, much better
[02:30] <TengkSA> pigor, i right click on desktop and click create launcher
[02:30] <TengkSA> fill in name: My Documents
[02:30] <TengkSA> Generic name: My documents
[02:31] <TengkSA> Command: ?????????
[02:31] <pigor> TengkSA: then type the name of the programm in the command field
[02:32] <TengkSA> its a directory
[02:32] <googlah> gonna make a try of kde now. see ya later guys.
[02:32] <TengkSA> pigor,  its a directory
[02:33] <welp_> when i try to do: apt-get install fluxbox, i get the following error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory), i have uncommented the universe lines in sources.list
[02:33] <welp_> how doi fix this?
[02:33] <maskd> welp_, you need to do sudo apt-get update firsy
[02:33] <welp_> *do i
[02:33] <pigor> TengkSA: ok then open nautilus, go to directory, right click directory, choose shortcut and drag new shortcut on desktop
[02:34] <TengkSA> how does one open nautilus
[02:34] <TengkSA> okay its open
[02:34] <pigor> TengkSA: now go to one diretctory above the directory you wanna shortcut
[02:35] <welp> maskd, ok, thanks
[02:35] <tafsen> Can I use desktop icons when I use OpenBOX?
[02:35] <pigor> TengkSA: then right click directory and make a shortcut
[02:35] <Techie_dude> what repository do i need to add to download sun-j2re1.5?
[02:35] <CodenameKT> tafsen: try fbdesk
[02:36] <pigor> TengkSA: the new shortcut will appear in nautilus and you can drag it with your mouse on your desktop
[02:36] <TengkSA> pigor, im sorry but i dont understand ur explanation
[02:36] <TengkSA> GO TO DIRECTORY? is that something i must click on or must i go to the directory that i wanna shortcut
[02:36] <TengkSA> pigor, ?
[02:36] <alexissoft> hi
[02:36] <tafsen> CodenameKT, ok. Because rox disabled the openbox menu
[02:37] <pigor> TengkSA: you must go to the directory you wanna shortcut
[02:37] <CodenameKT> tafsen: if u r just looking for desktop icons i think it is best to not use rox
[02:37] <TengkSA> and now how do i right click directory choose shortcut
[02:37] <TengkSA> pigor
[02:37] <pigor> TengkSA: you are there? then go one directory above
[02:37] <TengkSA> yes
[02:38] <pigor> TengkSA: and right-click on your directory you wanna shortcut
[02:38] <Kuolio> TengkSA: drag the folder to your desktop holding down your mice _midle_ button
[02:38] <TengkSA> pigor, yes
[02:38] <TengkSA> Kuolio, that was easy :P
[02:38] <TengkSA> thanks Kuolio and pigor
[02:38] <pigor> TengkSA: there you can choose "shortcut" (perhaps it calls a little bit different -- i have a german version)
[02:39] <TengkSA> pigor, it is
[02:39] <loreto_away> ompaul, instaler didn't recognize the sound card, on redhat i got sndconfig but on ubuntu it isn't
[02:40] <ompaul> loreto_away, if you did "/away some message" instead of changing your nick then you would generate a lot less traffic, when you return you just /away and it kills the away message
[02:40] <tafsen> CodenameKT, But rox took over the desktop.  And when I tried to open the icons on the desk, it used its own filebrowser
[02:40] <Techie_dude> what repository is it that has sun-j2re1.5
[02:41] <gnomefreak> the java repo
[02:41] <Linuturk> finished my ubuntu install
[02:41] <Linuturk> i just wish ndiswrapper was on the cd
[02:41] <Techie_dude> java repo?
[02:41] <Linuturk> :(
[02:41] <CodenameKT> tafsen: my poitn exactly. rox has a bunch of different stuff. it is filebrowser pic browser icon maker launch menu blah blah
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Techie_dude, most people (smart people) use the java page to get java
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !java
[02:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:43] <CodenameKT> tafsen: I believe in one app for one use
[02:43] <tafsen> CodenameKT, but I wan't to use Nautlius
[02:44] <Techie_dude> thankyou
[02:44] <Techie_dude> bye bye
[02:44] <CodenameKT> tafsen: i hear u. so instead of using rox for icons use fbdesk. fbdesk does nothing but icons
[02:44] <CodenameKT> and works well with *box or gnome
[02:44] <tafsen> CodenameKT, ok. Thx :)
[02:45] <CodenameKT> tafsen: i can't remember but doesn't nautilus have a way to do icons
[02:45] <afief> what distos will work on a 200MHz, 32 MB ram PC?
[02:46] <CodenameKT> afief: dsl linux but ur in wrong chan
[02:46] <seicherlbob> morning everybody! anybody knows about the magic file?? mine is empty but i need it for filerecovery
[02:46] <Kindred> yeah i'd probably try dsl..
[02:47] <afief> CodenameKT: Thanks, but at #Linux they are all asleep it seems. won't do it again;)
[02:47] <Malachi> Has anyone noticed problems with mplayer's audio synchronization when playing DVDs?
[02:47] <mlots> How do I disable the "is identified to services" messages?
[02:47] <tafsen> CodenameKT, Without drawing the desktop?
[02:48] <ompaul> afief, you could try xubuntu
[02:48] <orhs_> karandir
[02:49] <seicherlbob> afief: I have debian on a P2, 233 MHz, don't know the ram
[02:49] <CodenameKT> afief: np it is true xubuntu is possible
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> afief : slackware, it doesnt boot with a gui, freebsd or netbsd should also be nice for it
[02:49] <seicherlbob> afief: depends on whau you want to run on it. a fileserver? a firewall? then debian would do it.
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu has too many things it runs by default, might slow the system down
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> would make a nice firewall
[02:50] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob, your running ubuntu my guess is that you have atleast 128mb ram
[02:50] <lsuactiafner> i run slackware on a p166 with 42mb of broken ram as a firewall
[02:50] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: morning my friend.On my fileserver, i got debian.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh and good moring
[02:50] <gnomefreak> morning
[02:51] <afief> seicherlbob: small games, some word processor(i'm not piky)
[02:51] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: still not finished with the recover stuff.... need a magic file (/etc/magic) but mine is empty
[02:52] <neymac_> did anybody try fvwm-crystal-3.0 and get it working?
[02:52] <seicherlbob> afief: you could give it a try. I don't know how good the xserver will run on that machine. but aslong as you don't use any features
[02:53] <Diabloa69> sup guys
[02:53] <phanter> Hey how will the next ubuntu version be named?
[02:53] <Diabloa69> :)
[02:54] <mwe> phanter: dapper
[02:54] <mwe> phanter: 6.04
[02:54] <Diabloa69> has anybody gotten gyach to work with webcam on ubuntu
[02:54] <phanter> could I use dapper for testing already?
[02:55] <Diabloa69> phanter: yes
[02:55] <mwe> phanter: If you don't mind some things being broken
[02:55] <Diabloa69> phanter: I have a image of it if you want it
[02:55] <mwe> phanter: Also you should know how to fix your own problems
[02:55] <phanter> I wan tit yes, but is there not some way that I can just change the depositories?
[02:56] <imc_> g'Day everyone. Got breezy on a box with a sony memorystick reader which worked under hoary and not now. Put card in and nothing in /var/log/messages or lspci. Anyone?
[02:56] <Seveas> !dapper
[02:56] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[02:56] <ubuntu> do somebody know if i can download skype and run it with ubuntu Live-Cd?
[02:56] <joshisscifi> Hey everybody!
[02:56] <Seveas> !skype
[02:56] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:56] <Diabloa69> sup josh
[02:56] <joshisscifi> trying to get this stupid wireless working properly
[02:56] <mwe> phanter: sudo sed -i 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list has worked for people with varied success
[02:56] <joshisscifi> I've got the ndiswrapper loaded, and shows that the hardware is present
[02:56] <Diabloa69> can't help you there man :(
[02:56] <joshisscifi> but it won't show up
[02:56] <Diabloa69> you know man
[02:57] <Diabloa69> in my own personal experience of dealing with that type of bullshit
[02:57] <Diabloa69> 99% of the time I had to reboot my cable modem
[02:57] <Diabloa69> :))
[02:57] <joshisscifi> lol
[02:57] <Diabloa69> might wanna try that
[02:57] <mwe> phanter: if you intend doing anything serious on the machine don't use dapper
[02:57] <phanter> Diabloa69, oke, maybe I will go for your image. where can I find it?
[02:57] <joshisscifi> well, when I use ifconfig or even the KWifiManager, neither show the wireless existing
[02:57] <Diabloa69> I will copy it from my cd
[02:57] <Diabloa69> one sec
[02:57] <Diabloa69> you want cd or dvd?
[02:57] <phanter> mwe, I just want to look into the future... I will keep my breezy running... for sure
[02:58] <mwe> joshisscifi: Maybe it's not configured
[02:58] <phanter> Diabloa69, cd please
[02:58] <joshisscifi> mwe, recommendation?
[02:58] <Diabloa69> ok one min man
[02:58] <mwe> phanter: great. in that case go ahead
[02:58] <mwe> joshisscifi: Not enough information
[02:58] <joshisscifi> school starts back monday, so I have time to play around and get it working
[02:58] <imc_> ANyone help on the memorystick problem?
[02:59] <joshisscifi> mwe, I used ndiswrapper -i with the bcmwl5.inf file, then ndiswrapper -m to load, then ndiswrapper -l shows that the file is there and hardware present
[02:59] <gnomefreak> imc_, what about memory stick?
[02:59] <joshisscifi> I used the wrong file the first time, so its showing bcmwl5a.inf as well as bcmwl5.inf, problem there?
[02:59] <joshisscifi> but only the bcmwl5.inf file shows the hardware present msg beside it
[02:59] <imc_> hi gnomefreak, got a Memory stick reader which worked under hoary but not under breezy; /var/log/messages and lspci shows nothing
[03:00] <mwe> joshisscifi: yes. have you checked on the ndiswrapper page that the driver version you're using is supposed to work with ndiswrapper
[03:00] <slarts> Hi there ... what do I change to persist an ifconfig change?
[03:00] <Diabloa69> give me a few phanter..I have to install k3b apparently
[03:00] <slarts> in FC it's in /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts/ ... where is it in Ubuntu?
[03:00] <joshisscifi> mwe, will check now
[03:00] <phanter> Diabloa69, no hurries for me... hahaha, holidays here ;-)
[03:00] <mwe> joshisscifi: yeah. lots of drivers break with ndiswrapper so ...
[03:01] <Diabloa69> lol k
[03:01] <joshisscifi> mwe, I had it working with ubuntu... I'm on kubuntu now
[03:01] <mwe> joshisscifi: oh
[03:01] <mwe> joshisscifi: that shouldn't change your network setup
[03:01] <Diabloa69> man I am glad I switched from fbsd
[03:01] <imc_> sure would like the memory stick to work!
[03:01] <mwe> joshisscifi: did you reinstall?
[03:01] <Diabloa69> now I don't have to mount my damn drive everytime
[03:02] <slarts> SPeaking of network setup, what file do I change to persist an IP address? :>
[03:02] <joshisscifi> oh yeah, long ago lol
[03:02] <Diabloa69> hehe I wonder if I can hack my psp on here
[03:02] <Diabloa69> :D
[03:02] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok. and you had ndiswrapper working with the driver you're trying to use now?
[03:02] <Dasnipa`> yes Diabloa69: then you will be a '1337 h4x0r'
[03:02] <imc_> gnomefreak, any ideas?
[03:02] <Diabloa69> lol you mean cracker :P
[03:02] <Diabloa69> I need to get my homebrew back on it
[03:03] <joshisscifi> mwe, from ndiswrapper wiki: Other: Use bcmwl5.inf. Worked out of the box on Fedora Core 4, kernel 2.6.11.
[03:03] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok
[03:03] <Diabloa69> I was a moron and upgraded to 2.0 to play the new gta lcs
[03:03] <joshisscifi> mwe, how do I remove the first entry?
[03:03] <joshisscifi> mwe, since I have both the inf files listed, I'm thinking that COULD be the problem...
[03:04] <mwe> joshisscifi: man ndiswrapper. look for uninstall
[03:04] <joshisscifi> mwe, k
[03:04] <cvt|gnuyear> what are the chances someone is logging my keystrokes?
[03:04] <joshisscifi> haha that was easy
[03:04] <joshisscifi> -e does it
[03:04] <mwe> joshisscifi: I think it's ndiswrapper -r, but it's been a while so I'm not sure
[03:04] <davidhouse> hi, i'm looking to install ubuntu and i could do with some device
[03:04] <davidhouse> *advice
[03:04] <tafsen> Can someone help me with fbdesk?
[03:05] <Diabloa69> davidhouse: my advice is, don't have a ati radion 9250 pci card
[03:05] <davidhouse> i have a 60GB hard disk in my laptop and already have winxp and suse installed on it.
[03:05] <mwe> joshisscifi: good
[03:05] <sdaserver> help: how does one log in to webmin?
[03:05] <davidhouse> Diabloa69: ;)
[03:05] <mwe> joshisscifi: now does ifconfig show your wireless interface?
[03:05] <joshisscifi> mwe, nope
[03:05] <joshisscifi> eth0 and lo only
[03:05] <s1gnAl> I am getting ready to install Ubuntu on another box(Breezy 5.10 install CD) and I don't have a need for X on that box, if I select server at boottime will that prevent that?
[03:05] <mwe> joshisscifi: ifconfig -a?
[03:05] <davidhouse> will there be room for ubuntu, or should i back everything up and delete my suse partition?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> my advice is to lose suse :)) but thats only because im partial to ubuntu :)
[03:05] <joshisscifi> mwe, no
[03:06] <joshisscifi> eth0, lo, sit0
[03:06] <Diabloa69> davidhouse: I kept on getting this lame ass hotplug error, It was fixed after I took out my graphic card
[03:06] <mwe> joshisscifi: what's dmesg|grep -i ndis say?
[03:06] <sdaserver> help: how does one log in to webmin?
[03:06] <slarts> ok, so how do I persist an IP address change across reboots?
[03:06] <mwe> joshisscifi: what's sit0?
[03:06] <joshisscifi> mwe, nothing at all
[03:06] <davidhouse> gnomefreak, i don't think i'll be using it, i'd just like to keep it around in case i need something i haven't backed up
[03:06] <joshisscifi> mwe, it says: sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
[03:06] <mwe> joshisscifi: and the module is loaded? lsmod|grep ndis
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Diabloa69, dont feel bad i have 2 ati cards one radeon and one that is just a rage pro and neither get 3d both being 3d cards :(
[03:07] <joshisscifi> mwe, its not showing up in lsmod
[03:07] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok. sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:07] <joshisscifi> but if I type ndiswrapper -l, it hows up
[03:07] <joshisscifi> mwe, done
[03:07] <tafsen> Can someone help me with fbdesk?
[03:07] <s1gnAl> I am getting ready to install Ubuntu on another box(Breezy 5.10 install CD) and I don't have a need for X on that box, if I select server at boottime will that prevent that?
[03:08] <mwe> joshisscifi: ndiswrapper -l shows what drivers are installed, not if the module is loaded. does it show in lsmod now?
[03:08] <joshisscifi> mwe, yes it does
[03:08] <mwe> joshisscifi: good
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ati and nvidia where are they made?
[03:08] <mwe> joshisscifi: try ifconfig -a now again
[03:08] <joshisscifi> mwe, shows ndiswrapper and usbcore lol
[03:08] <joshisscifi> mwe, nope
[03:09] <mwe> joshisscifi: and dmesg|grep -i ndis ?
[03:09] <grundo> hwo i can join different servers?
[03:09] <mwe> grundo: /server foobar
[03:09] <grundo> ok
[03:09] <mwe> grundo: or /connect
[03:09] <joshisscifi> [4295822.220000]  ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_add_one_pci_dev:188): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C0000001)
[03:09] <mwe> joshisscifi: that's bad
[03:10] <mwe> joshisscifi: probably using an incompatible driver
[03:10] <joshisscifi> hmm
[03:10] <Diabloa69> hey would anybody happen to have a copy of dvddecrypter laying aroudn?
[03:10] <Diabloa69> around*
[03:10] <mwe> joshisscifi: check ndiswrapper.sf.net and click your way to the compatibility list that shows what driver should be used for your card
[03:11] <s1gnAl> windows version?
[03:11] <Diabloa69> yeah
[03:11] <s1gnAl> sure I have one
[03:11] <Diabloa69> could you send it to me
[03:11] <mwe> joshisscifi: that's my advice
[03:11] <Diabloa69> I googled for it and no one has it
[03:11] <slarts> ok, so how do I persist an IP address change across reboots?
[03:11] <joshisscifi> mwe, I'm using the same one thats listed on there
[03:11] <s1gnAl> you bet, do you use AIM or Yahoo IM?
[03:11] <Diabloa69> either or
[03:11] <mwe> joshisscifi: the same version?
[03:11] <Diabloa69> aim=Diablo6966669
[03:11] <joshisscifi> mwe yup
[03:11] <Diabloa69> yahoo=skullzsoldier1221
[03:11] <s1gnAl> ok Ill get on Yahoo, brt
[03:12] <Diabloa69> k
[03:12] <mwe> joshisscifi: then I don't know why it wont work. maybe try rebooting, though I doubt it will help
[03:12] <joshisscifi> mwe, well, might as well give it a shot lol
[03:12] <joshisscifi> mwe, dells do odd things
[03:12] <mwe> joshisscifi: what card is it?
[03:12] <joshisscifi> mwe 1470
[03:13] <grundo> eny good wireless internet cards for laptop?
[03:13] <mwe> grundo: yeah prism based ones
[03:13] <grundo> prism?
[03:13] <mwe> grundo: yes
[03:13] <grundo> what's that?
[03:14] <DrAdmin38789> hi all !
[03:14] <mwe> grundo: a chip
[03:14] <pigor> netgea
[03:14] <grundo> ok
[03:14] <pigor> netgear
[03:14] <mwe> grundo: prism2
[03:14] <joshisscifi> brb
[03:14] <joshisscifi> gonna try the reboot
[03:14] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok
[03:14] <cvt|gnuyear> screen looks fuzzy and unfocused. how do fix?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <grundo> reboot or clean your monitor
[03:14] <Myrtti> check your refresh rate
[03:14] <slarts> Am I going to have to whack a monitor and keyboard on this thing just to change the IP address through Gnome?
[03:15] <grundo> :)
[03:15] <mwe> grundo: yeah, cleaning the monitor sounds like good advice :)
[03:15] <grundo> i bump windows yesterday and sawp ubuntu! this is Grt!!!
[03:16] <gnomefreak> home path is /username/home?
[03:16] <mwe> grundo: yeah
[03:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: no
[03:16] <gnomefreak> /home/username/<
[03:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: yes
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:16] <tafsen> Is there an Linux gaming channel or something? Some place that can help me installing wow on Ubuntu?
[03:17] <grundo> i installed libdvdcss2 and it didn't work for totem
[03:17] <grundo> what i can do?
[03:17] <mwe> grundo: I don't know. it works with kaffeine
[03:17] <grundo> yeah
[03:18] <grundo> it sure do.  .
[03:18] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Pygi, pong
[03:18] <concept10> Anyone run ubuntu on PPC?  How do it fare?
[03:18] <Pygi> freaky: I need to talk  to you about somethin'
[03:18] <cvt|gnuyear> i'm affraid i'm going to make some change on not be able to see the screen anymore
[03:18] <grundo> :-)
[03:18] <mwe> grundo: programs not using codecs and libs is a general problem I recon
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Pygi, give me a few mins to finsih this and ill be free for a bit
[03:18] <Pygi> freaky: k, I'l wait
[03:19] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:19] <grundo> quite true mwe
[03:19] <mwe> grundo: for example mplayer can play all my movies but other players can't
[03:19] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: WOHOOO! Filerecovery is running! lets see ...
[03:19] <mwe> grundo: well some can
[03:19] <grundo> :)
[03:20] <DrAdmin38789> may i install packahes from debain to ubuntu ?
[03:20] <mwe> grundo: it's because they don't do things a common way
[03:20] <Myrtti> DrAdmin38789: it's not encouraged
[03:20] <gimmulf_> !ssh
[03:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[03:20] <Diabloa69> DrAdmin38789: yes do "sudo dpgk -i pkg.deb
[03:20] <Myrtti> in many cases it might break up the system
[03:20] <grundo> this one day i was removing trojan.zlob from windows and i release that is time to change to linux
[03:21] <Myrtti> but still, yes you can
[03:21] <mwe> what's extra about ssh?
[03:21] <phanter> Diabloa69, I found the nightly build... I will try it from there. Thanks anyway :-)
[03:22] <grundo> all my "windows" friends tell my that linux like ubuntu is for pro users. . .
[03:22] <mwe> DrAdmin38789: it can break your system
[03:22] <sabzil> hi men
[03:22] <Myrtti> linux like ubuntu? ha
[03:22] <Myrtti> linux like slackware is for pros
[03:22] <grundo> :)
[03:22] <Pygi> Myrtti: heh, actually Slackware can also be used by beginners :P
[03:22] <tafsen> Is there an Linux gaming channel or something? Some place that can help me installing wow on Ubuntu?
[03:23] <Myrtti> linux like ubuntu is for linux noobs and those who don't want to waste their time on excess tweaking
[03:23] <butcherbird> tafsen: maybe check ubuntuforums.org
[03:23] <Myrtti> Pygi: true, but the process of getting it to work might be a great turnoff
[03:23] <Pygi> Myrtti: I started with Slackware 2.x and continued, so I guess I learned everything on slackware :)
[03:23] <Dasnipa`> Myrtti, slackware isnt anything hard... try gentoo lol
[03:23] <slarts> I found it, thanks for everyone's help
[03:23] <Pygi> Dasnipa: gentoo is not hard, it's just a pain to install it :P
[03:23] <Myrtti> was it gentoo, can't remember
[03:23] <Myrtti> anyway
[03:24] <DrAdmin38789> mwe why ? ubuntu based on debian or not ?
[03:24] <grundo> Free BS is for pro users. . .
[03:24] <mwe> Dasnipa`: gentoo is easy. the install is just tedious but it's a monkey see  monkey do job
[03:24] <grundo> what about Suse?
[03:24] <Myrtti> I'm off to play Stepmania
[03:24] <mwe> DrAdmin38789: based on, but different
[03:24] <Dasnipa`> mwe i know after the install its very nice... ive performed 4-5 installs of it
[03:24] <Pygi> grundo: yes, but once you get familiar with FreeBSD then you are almost familiar with all unix & Linux systems :)
[03:24] <Pygi> grundo: huh, not the Suse thingy :/
[03:25] <mwe> Dasnipa`: I got tired of it always compiling stuff
[03:25] <grundo> :)
[03:25] <jw> does anyone know a graphical frontend to subversion?
[03:25] <mwe> Dasnipa`: you get a super fast system but it's always crawling because you're compiling all the time
[03:25] <jw> like Cervisia for CVS?
[03:25] <Pygi> jw: rapidsvn
[03:25] <Dasnipa`> compiling everything is rediculasly optimized though
[03:25] <grundo> can i run Guild Wars in linux?
[03:25] <Pygi> grundo: does it use OpenGL>
[03:25] <Pygi> ?
[03:26] <grundo> duno ..
[03:26] <grundo> but if it use
[03:26] <mwe> grundo: what's that?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> oh and btw slackware is easy compared to gentoo
[03:26] <Pygi> mwe: game
[03:26] <grundo> Guild Wars?
[03:26] <grundo> yeap
[03:26] <DrAdmin38789> mwe i want install Ubuntu 5.10 on my notebook - iRu Stilo1415Combo ! what u known problem ?
[03:26] <irvin> grundo, yes you can
[03:26] <fli7e> guild wars is a lot like world of warcraft
[03:26] <mwe> grundo: you can run like 1 out of 1000 windows games on linux
[03:26] <grundo> cool!!
[03:26] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: huh, no, gentoo  is REALLY REALLY EASY, just the INSTALL is a bit over ...huh...bad :P
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i found gentoo harder than slack
[03:27] <cvt|gnuyear> i don't know what i'm doing in configuring xserver, should i stop?
[03:27] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, I just saw that gentoo install is not good, and since I use slackware since 2.0 I don't intend to get out of it :P
[03:27] <grundo> has enyone try out kubuntu?
[03:27] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the only hard thing in gentoo is the installation. and it's not really hard. just tedious
[03:28] <irvin> grundo, i have back in hoary
[03:28] <gnomefreak> grundo, kubuntu=ubuntu/kde
[03:28] <Pygi> mwe: agreed
[03:28] <Pygi> mwe: takes too long for no reason :P
[03:28] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, are any changes i do in xserver easy to undo?
[03:28] <schmourtz> hello
[03:28] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, any changes you do can be undone by runnign the commmand and going through it again
[03:29] <mwe> Pygi: right. you get a lightning fast system though. too bad it's always crawling because you're compiling all the time
[03:29] <grundo> it's that true that linux os are more security that windows?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> grundo, much more
[03:29] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, but what if i can't see the screen anymore? seriously
[03:29] <Pygi> mwe: ah, yes :/
[03:29] <grundo> Did you heard the new security hole in windows
[03:29] <grundo> wmf hole
[03:29] <mwe> yeah
[03:29] <Pygi> mwe: but still, after 9 years of Slackware.... :)
[03:29] <grundo> hah windows!!!
[03:30] <grundo> :P
[03:30] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, runnign sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you should beable to pull up and see if not than i dont know
[03:30] <mwe> grundo: they posted a fix on windows update though
[03:30] <ubuntu> hello. i am a newbie. i have downloaded skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb. how do i install it?
[03:30] <grundo> yeah . .
[03:30] <gnomefreak> !skype
[03:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:30] <Pygi> ubuntu: sudo dpkg -i  pack.deb
[03:30] <J3ff> got some couple of invites for newsvine. if anyone cares just for the heck...
[03:30] <grundo> they still reveal hwo unsecurity windows is..
[03:31] <gnomefreak> what is newsvine?
[03:31] <mase> how do i upgrade to kde 3.5 ?
[03:31] <mwe> grundo: but that's old news
[03:31] <Stork>  how can i display my system specs with xchat?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> mase use the kde repo on easysource
[03:31] <grundo> old?, it was yesterday's news
[03:31] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[03:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:31] <DanglyBits> is there a 64bit version of mplayer available for dapper? or breezy?
[03:31] <mwe> grundo: I mean windows being insecure is old news
[03:31] <grundo> :)
[03:31] <grundo> true it has allways been..
[03:32] <grundo> since the windows 3x
[03:32] <gnomefreak> DanglyBits, neither i dont think
[03:32] <Stork> anyone?
[03:32] <mwe> grundo: one basic design flaw is everone logging on as super user by default all the time
[03:32] <mwe> grundo: and even without a password on most installations
[03:32] <takedown> Stork: use sysinfo script ;)
[03:33] <Stork> takedown, where can i get that?
[03:33] <knubbe> J3ff: id like one if you dont mind.
[03:33] <grundo> that sounds bad. .
[03:33] <grundo> mwe
[03:33] <DrAdmin38789> mwe Thnx ! i found site http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ :)
[03:33] <mwe> DrAdmin38789: what?
[03:33] <takedown> Stork: visit xchat.org and use search
[03:34] <Stork> okay
[03:34] <grundo> eny good IDE for c/c++ devolpment?
[03:34] <khetan> .
[03:34] <mwe> grundo: define good
[03:34] <Pygi> grudo: use VI :))))
[03:34] <grundo> ;)
[03:34] <davidhouse> kdevelop, eclipse
[03:34] <Pygi> grudo: VI is the best IDE ever and forever :)
[03:34] <mwe> grundo: anjuta, kdevelop, eclupse
[03:34] <grundo> ok
[03:35] <grundo> what about Borland?
[03:35] <grundo> ah!
[03:35] <grundo> sory..
[03:35] <mwe> grundo: oh and if you like something simple, xwpe
[03:35] <Pygi> why nobody suggested Vi :(((
[03:35] <grundo> :)
[03:35] <mwe> Pygi: vi? do you mean vim or plain vi?
[03:35] <mase> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde35_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:35] <mase> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:35] <mase> whats that about?
[03:35] <Pygi> mwe: plain vi is enough :)
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: I think it sucks. I'd rather use ed then
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: :)
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: vim rocks though
[03:36] <Pygi> mwe: ed???
[03:36] <ubuntu-FrK> vi..
[03:36] <Pygi> mwe: I don't know, I use vi for all my development :/
[03:36] <ubuntu-FrK> cya all!
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: ok. I use vim
[03:36] <ubuntu-FrK> diner time. .
[03:36] <ves> Anyone know how to get anti-aliased fonts working in rxvt-unicode?
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: for most of it at least
[03:36] <Pygi> mwe: yup, vim is good as well
[03:37] <mwe> Pygi: I can't live without syntax hilighting and auto indeting and stuff like that
[03:37] <Pygi> mwe: ah, well :P
[03:38] <Pygi> mwe: what languages are you developing anyway?
[03:38] <mwe> Pygi: don't you know ed? the oldest unix editor
[03:38] <Pygi> mwe: not actually, never used it :/
[03:39] <Raskall> agh.. need help. I have two completely empty drives. I want to merge these (with lvm) so that I can have one filesystem on them. How do I do that
[03:39] <mwe> Pygi: ok. try it just type ed. then figure out how to quit :)
[03:39] <Katie^> how do i  you'll need to set your
[03:39] <Katie^> *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point
[03:39] <Katie^> *** to the installed location ?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> there is an app in synaptic that lets you add hightlighting into most editord
[03:39] <Pygi> mwe: I got out :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> s*
[03:39] <Pygi> mwe: meaning: quited :P
[03:39] <Pygi> I knew about that, just couldn't remember the name :P
[03:40] <Malachi> How can I fix this error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[03:40] <Malachi> I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10...
[03:40] <mwe> Pygi: great. you already a pro. quick learner :)
[03:40] <Stork> how do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file
[03:40] <Pygi> mwe: heh, I've been using slack since 2.x :P I couldn't have lived since then until now if I haven't learned a few things :P
[03:41] <mwe> Pygi: well you're asking what languages I program in. python perl c c++ mainly. I haven't done anything major though
[03:41] <Pygi> mwe: me doesn't like perl :/
[03:41] <Stork> how do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file
[03:42] <Pygi> mwe: but I also do C/C++ and python .... I do development using mono framework (C#) as well :P
[03:42] <mwe> Pygi: I have made small programs and done some bug fixing other peoples code
[03:42] <Malachi> How can I fix this "error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" ?
[03:42] <Malachi> Whatdo I need?
[03:42] <mwe> Pygi: ok
[03:42] <Pygi> mwe: ah, well :) I am currently doing several things :P
[03:43] <Stork> how do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file
[03:44] <Pygi> !patience
[03:44] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:44] <Stork> sorry
[03:44] <TheAsp> Stork, drop it in ~/.xchat
[03:45] <Stork> oh ok
[03:45] <rowanjl> Hey, I'm trying to work out what package includes the Apache2 APXS, I've searched and all I can find is the package for Apache1
[03:45] <rowanjl> does anyone know? I'm trying to build a custom module
[03:45] <mwe> TheAsp: it's not .xchat2 ?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> lamp?
[03:46] <mwe> !lamp
[03:46] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:46] <TheAsp> mwe: well, ok, .xchat2 :)
[03:46] <rowanjl> gnomefreak, you talking to me?
[03:46] <Pygi> mwe: wann  do some development? :)
[03:46] <netstar> What's the best way to install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu? is automatix any good? it sounds dodgy
[03:47] <gnomefreak> rowanjl, yes
[03:47] <J3ff> tried automatix, works great.
[03:47] <apokryphos> !automatix
[03:47] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[03:47] <ubotu> automatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:47] <dfgas> gnomefreak: you know anything about apache?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> dfgas, nope :)
[03:47] <netstar> apokryphos, what do you suggest?
[03:47] <cvt|gnuyear> is there a place where i can check my video memory size?
[03:47] <J3ff> ubotu: like what?
[03:47] <ubotu> J3ff: I don't know
[03:47] <apokryphos> netstar: /msg ubotu easyubuntu
[03:47] <J3ff> ubotu: right
[03:47] <ubotu> J3ff: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:47] <rowanjl> gnomefreak, well, good try but no :P
[03:48] <apokryphos> J3ff: ubotu is a bot :)
[03:48] <dfgas> anyone know why apache won't connect to mysql, all the things are installed for php and mysql
[03:48] <gnomefreak> all i knew lamp had apache
[03:48] <J3ff> apokryphos: a stupid bot
[03:48] <rowanjl> APXS isn't apache, its the "Apache extension tool"
[03:48] <J3ff> im new here, so why would a bot defame a good program?
[03:48] <J3ff> that's just plain stupid.
[03:48] <apokryphos> J3ff: nope, not stupid.
[03:48] <mwe> Pygi: development, on what?
[03:49] <Pygi> mwe: well, the projects :)
[03:49] <J3ff> so automatix is really banned in here?
[03:49] <J3ff> like ive never read any bad reviews about it
[03:49] <Pygi> j3ff: yes :)
[03:49] <J3ff> it's even recommended at times
[03:49] <mwe> Pygi: what projects?
[03:49] <Pygi> mwe: you can choose out of 3 :) Cromath, Fama IM or Woot Newsreader
[03:49] <J3ff> Pygi: from what grounds?
[03:50] <Pygi> j3ff: well, it has issues :P
[03:50] <J3ff> linkage for better explanation why shouldn't I use automatix?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> J3ff, you like it that is fine but we wont tell people to use it because it can hurt the security
[03:50] <Pygi> well, use it if you really want, just don't cry when it breakes somethin'
[03:50] <ubuntu> well, I downloaded an ubuntu 5.10 vmware image from cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware and I was just wondering if anyone would know what the password is so I can update and add programs
[03:50] <mwe> !automatix
[03:50] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:50] <J3ff> Well, i used it just to install FF 1.5
[03:50] <irvin> ubuntu, try ubuntu
[03:51] <Katie^> ok
[03:51] <ubuntu> will try it right now :)
[03:51] <Katie^> so i have now got Xine up and running, I tried to open my file
[03:51] <Katie^> but it doenst work
[03:51] <J3ff> I just find it irrational to hate a thing when I dont know why should I hate it int he first place
[03:51] <apokryphos> J3ff: because you've seen it recommended it wouldn't really make it ok. automatix has produced -- and can potentially produce -- quite a few problems
[03:51] <J3ff> Im new here. I want to learn and I think it's okay to know why such programs are dangerous.
[03:51] <Pygi> mwe: Cromath - math engine much like Mathematica and Matlab --- Fama IM - can't be compared to anythin :) ----- Woot newsreader --- well, the newsreader :)
[03:51] <stoneage> just use the official mozilla.org binaries or compile it yourself!!
[03:51] <ubuntu> irvin, it worked, thank you!
[03:51] <Pygi> apokryphos: agreed
[03:51] <irvin> ubuntu, np
[03:51] <mwe> J3ff: did you read what ubotu said?
[03:52] <J3ff> Yeah, like it explained everything duh.
[03:52] <BigKahuna> anybody have experience running ubuntu on a box with only 32 MB of ram? How is the performance?
[03:52] <J3ff> You guys actually know why?
[03:52] <mwe> Pygi: ok. I think I'm a little too busy at the univerity ATM
[03:52] <gnomefreak> BigKahuna, not good
[03:52] <apokryphos> J3ff: for example, it (i) creates a root user (not an ubuntu recommendation), (ii) modifies your sources.list, (iii) uses --force-yes options with apt, and has been known to overwrite some main system files.
[03:52] <J3ff> any single html page that explains THE WHY?
[03:52] <Katie^> argh
[03:52] <Pygi> j3ff: well it causes security issues :/
[03:52] <gnomefreak> 32mb ram isnt enough
[03:53] <J3ff> Pygi: wow, that's comforting
[03:53] <J3ff> ah well
[03:53] <apokryphos> J3ff: that's why easubuntu has been set up.
[03:53] <J3ff> Im not a blind follower
[03:53] <J3ff> I'll search on it
[03:53] <stoneage> my xorg even eats ~130 mb ram :)
[03:53] <apokryphos> *easyubuntu
[03:53] <Pygi> j3ff: well, don't use it :P
[03:53] <BigKahuna> gnomefreak, youve tried it?
[03:53] <apokryphos> J3ff: I just told you why.
[03:53] <Pygi> !easyubuntu
[03:53] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[03:53] <gnomefreak> BigKahuna, ive seen people try it
[03:53] <J3ff> I know apokryphos. that's fair enough
[03:53] <J3ff> I'll do more reading thanks
[03:53] <irvin> J3ff, lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC_2005-12-06
[03:54] <gnomefreak> i wanna say 128mb is least ram to use for graphical
[03:54] <BigKahuna> gnomefreak, I dont want to do anything fancy, just run a slideshow of photos, thats it.
[03:54] <J3ff> thx irvin, ill check sure that. :)
[03:54] <gnomefreak> slideshows=graphics
[03:55] <mwe> the root user is already created on any ubuntu installation
[03:55] <Madeye> any idea how to enable CTRL-V on terminal ?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> BigKahuna, you can try it but i dont think it will work if it runs at all it will be very very slow and prolly freeze up on you if you open an app
[03:55] <apokryphos> mwe: but it's disabled
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: no
[03:55] <apokryphos> mwe: yes
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: it just doesn't have a password
[03:55] <gnomefreak> im not ever sure 32mb ram is ok for damn small linux :(
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: try sudo -i
[03:55] <BigKahuna> ok. maybe Ill stick with Win98 then.
[03:55] <gnomefreak> even*
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: and you become root
[03:56] <davro> Im trying to add a drive containg a windows 2000 install, to the grub boot loader what would be the best way todo this ?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> mwe, will ubuntu graphical run on 32mb ram? im thinking no
[03:56] <mwe> apokryphos: a linux system without a root user would not work
[03:56] <netstar> WHat's the best way to install Firefox 1.5 on ubuntu?
[03:56] <ubuntu_> hi can someone help me with ubuntu someone said theres a program called Gpartition i cant find it
[03:56] <Katie^> someone help me
[03:56] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[03:56] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:56] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't think so either
[03:56] <Katie^> pleassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[03:56] <Pygi> netstar: compile it
[03:56] <gnomefreak> firefox 1.5
[03:57] <Diabloa69> bbl all
[03:57] <gnomefreak> !firefox 1.5
[03:57] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:57] <Diabloa69> peace
[03:57] <netstar> !firefox
[03:57] <gnomefreak> ok whos been changing ubotu :(
[03:57] <gnomefreak> oh nm it ran :(
[03:57] <Stork> how do i restart from the command line?
[03:57] <ubuntu_> anyone know were i can download Gpartion or find it on ubuntu
[03:57] <netstar> !firefox1.5
[03:57] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:58] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gpart?
[03:58] <Katie^> How can I play .mkv file on Xine?
[03:58] <apokryphos> mwe: surprise surprise, (can't find t he link), but (i) the encryption used for the scrambling of the root pass is the definition of it being "disabled"
[03:58] <apokryphos> mwe: sudo -i is *NOT* the same as a root user.
[03:58] <irvin> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:58] <apokryphos> mwe: see man sudo
[03:58] <mwe> apokryphos: it's not my definition. several processes run as the root user
[03:58] <grundo> hi all!
[03:59] <apokryphos> mwe: that's great; considering you're not the one making the encryption, we shouldn't care less for your definition. Personally I take theirs.
[03:59] <Katie^> How can I play .mkv file on Xine?
[03:59] <Katie^> How can I play .mkv file on Xine?
[03:59] <mwe> apokryphos: so I don't see how root is disabled other than not letting you login as root
[03:59] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, sudo -i isnt the same but you can do same things with sudo -i as you can su
[03:59] <apokryphos> Katie^: please stop being annoying
[03:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Katie^ about restricted
[03:59] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: no, not all the same things; the environment is totally different.
[03:59] <rowanjl> so, does anyone here know anything about the Apache2 packages?
[04:00] <apokryphos> mwe: because the encryption defines that scrambling as it being "disabled"
[04:00] <tafsen> If want to find out what command a shortcut on the gnome menu executes, how do I do that? :P
[04:00] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, but anything you have to do as "root" in ubuntu sudo -i is good and will do it
[04:00] <netstar> tafsen, /usr/share/applications
[04:00] <Katie^> apokryphos, stop ignoring me then.
[04:00] <e_machinist> Is Firefox 1.5 not available in the breezy repositories yet?
[04:00] <Yoni> Hello
[04:00] <grundo> hi
[04:00] <gnomefreak> Katie^,  ask once and someone will answer you if they know
[04:00] <gnomefreak> read this
[04:01] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[04:01] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:01] <mwe> apokryphos: whatever. if not letting you login as root though you can become root and the system in all other ways has the root account, then yes it's disabled. I think it's a bad definition though
[04:01] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: no, not true at all. sudo -i is not the recommended method for running GUI apps under root, for example.
[04:01] <Kindred> e_machinist, no it wont be..
[04:01] <Yoni> In the Konsole, how can I see some service ( for example the ssh service ) status? -- the command "service sshd status" isn't working for me
[04:01] <grundo> lol
[04:01] <grundo> :)
[04:01] <apokryphos> Katie^: no. If someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[04:01] <e_machinist> Kindred: gonna be a dapper release?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, that would be gksudo
[04:01] <apokryphos> Katie^: spamming gets annoying, very fast.
[04:01] <Pygi> well, gui apps should be run under gksudo or kdesu
[04:01] <Pygi> !patience
[04:01] <grundo> we just dont know katie
[04:01] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you.  I'm just wondering as I'm getting 40MB of updates at nearly 200KB/s...
[04:01] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: yes, or kdesu.
[04:01] <Pygi> !patience
[04:01] <Kindred> e_machinist: yep
[04:01] <gnomefreak> e_machinist, late april dapper is set to be out
[04:01] <yatesy> ubuntu: donations
[04:02] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:02] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[04:02] <apokryphos> mwe: you haven't understood that sudo and su are quite different models. sudo -i and su are not the same, for one. And yes, the root account is disabled by default.
[04:02] <mwe> apokryphos: um yes I have
[04:02] <e_machinist> Yep, I got April 20 on me calendar... counting the days. (Not really)
[04:02] <e_machinist> heh.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> lol e_
[04:02] <mwe> apokryphos: so what does the 'id' command say after you sudo -i?
[04:02] <apokryphos> mwe: sudo -i and su are emphatically *not* the same.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> its gonna be nice once they get all bugs worked out and packages fixed :))
[04:03] <apokryphos> irrelevant, again.
[04:03] <grundo> hwo i can define what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:03] <mwe> apokryphos: I know it's not the same. I didn't state they're the same
[04:03] <apokryphos> grundo: define? Find out? cat /etc/issue
[04:03] <shuveb-home> hi, can i upgrade to breezy while still running GNOME... or do I have to exit all X stuff and do it from the text mode?
[04:03] <mwe> apokryphos: you still become root with sudo -i
[04:03] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, if im not mistaken its only in the "background" that they are not same
[04:03] <grundo> ok
[04:04] <apokryphos> shuveb-home: better to do it from a console -- will save things stop running through the installation. Still, it's possible either way.
[04:04] <grundo> thanks
[04:04] <gnomefreak> shuveb-home, you can do it eitehr way
[04:04] <Unity> sometimes, i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. is this ubuntu specific or does all linux have this
[04:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shuveb-home about upgrade
[04:04] <shuveb-home> gnomefreak, apokryphos : thanks
[04:04] <Stork> how can i make my ubuntu machine always request the same ip addr?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:04] <gnomefreak> shuveb-home, read the pm ubotu sent you
[04:05] <apokryphos> mwe: the point here was that automatix enables the root (su) user account, which is  not "the ubuntu way", quite evidently. There's reasons for why it's disabled.
[04:05] <grundo> there is no such file than /etc/issue
[04:05] <shuveb-home> gnomefreak, got that, thanks!
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> grundo,  make one then?
[04:05] <sorush20> is there any messenger that enables sound transfere in yahoo?
[04:05] <Stork> how can i make my ubuntu machine always request the same ip addr? it's command line only.
[04:05] <apokryphos> grundo: there really is.
[04:05] <grundo> i just want to find out what's version of ubuntu im running right now..
[04:06] <apokryphos> Stork: you'll have to set up a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:06] <mwe> apokryphos: Yeah the reason is someone thinks it's more secure. and it probably is too
[04:06] <kameron> after a apt-get update, i get this: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[04:06] <apokryphos> grundo: cat /etc/issue, then
[04:06] <kent> grundo, in the desktop - choose System -> About ubuntu
[04:06] <ubuntu> click on system and then click on about ubuntu
[04:06] <tafsen> Anyone here that knows Gparted?
[04:06] <apokryphos> mwe: not just that; it's a superior model in many ways.
[04:06] <mwe> apokryphos: how so, other that being more secure?
[04:07] <Stork> apokryphos, at the moment it's configured to use dhcp, how can i change that? do i just put a different ip?
[04:07] <kent> Stork, in the network-settings yes.
[04:08] <Stork> the network-settings??
[04:08] <Pygi> !patience
[04:08] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:08] <grundo> still don't know what version. .
[04:08] <netstar> !firefox1.5
[04:08] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:08] <apokryphos> mwe: check the wiki; it highlights a few things.
[04:08] <Katie^> yeah, patient for the next what 3 hours, lol
[04:08] <mwe> !root
[04:08] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:09] <apokryphos> mwe: I've gotta dash, so I'll expand later. But basically, sudo lets you run what as who.
[04:09] <grundo> !version
[04:09] <ubotu> grundo: I haven't a clue
[04:09] <grundo> !ubuntu version
[04:09] <ubotu> grundo: I haven't a clue
[04:09] <Pygi> grundo: you got ur answer, what seems to be problem?
[04:09] <apokryphos> grundo: cat /etc/issue
[04:09] <grundo> cat?
[04:10] <apokryphos> grundo: put that command in.
[04:10] <sorush20> is ymessenger anywhere in the repositories?
[04:10] <grundo> sory for beeing so pain in the ****
[04:10] <grundo> :)
[04:10] <grundo> im just neeb
[04:10] <grundo> noob
[04:10] <grundo> newbie
[04:10] <cvt|kde> how can i play sound from two different apps simultaneously?
[04:11] <tafsen> How is the easyest way to add some unused space on the HDD in ubuntu?
[04:11] <Unity> tafsen: you can buy a bigger hdd
[04:11] <apokryphos> Stork: gotta dash, but basically you'll want to structure your interfaces like this http://pastebin.com/494941
[04:11] <cvt|kde> when i play a video sound in java doesn't work and when i play sound in flash, sound in video doesn't work
[04:11] <apokryphos> Stork: you'll want to change <IP_ADDRESS> (or leave it the same, I guess) -- that'll be your static ip
[04:11] <cvt|kde> i personally don't see the purpose in that
[04:12] <grundo> cool im running Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger
[04:12] <apokryphos> Stork: after you change it, then sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[04:12] <Stork> apokryphos, ok thanks
[04:12] <Caius> mines still installing hoary after 4 hours :(
[04:12] <tafsen> Unity, lol.. I miss typed something there :p I have Dualboot, and I freed some space from the NTFS disc, now I wan't to add that do my linux part
[04:12] <mwe> apokryphos: I think the sudo way is perfectly sane and I see the point about fine grained security policy. I think we just use different definitions. In my world the root account is not disabled, just root login
[04:13] <Yoni> How can I configure iptables to work automatic with the boot of Ubuntu?
[04:13] <Unity> tafsen: sorry i dunno much about resizing partitions. wait for someone else to help you out
[04:13] <tafsen> Anyone who can help me with resizing partitions?
[04:13] <Pygi> !oatuebce
[04:13] <ubotu> Not a clue, Pygi
[04:13] <Pygi> !patience
[04:13] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:13] <THE_DIRK> hello
[04:14] <mwe> tafsen: yeah live-cd, run parted
[04:14] <MrKeuner> hi, which is the meta package to compile programs and create deb packages?
[04:14] <THE_DIRK> how do you install deb packages??
[04:14] <kameron> source-o-matic creates instructions on what to do if you get bad keys.. cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows you how to create gpg database, etc. cool!
[04:14] <MrKeuner> THE_DIRK/ dpkg -i <package_name>
[04:14] <Unity> tafsen: wait, freeing space on ntfs doesn't mean you can transfer that over to your linux partition...
[04:14] <grundo> sudo apt-get instal plaaplaal.deb
[04:15] <JoeBlow> does anyone know where the wiki is for manually installing grub?
[04:15] <mase> !webcam
[04:15] <JoeBlow> cant find it anywhere
[04:15] <Unity> tafsen: you can only add unpartitioned space to your linux partition
[04:15] <ubotu> somebody said webcam was now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[04:15] <mwe> !grub
[04:15] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:15] <THE_DIRK> thanx
[04:15] <tafsen> Unity, yes.. I freed it(unpartitioned it)
[04:16] <mwe> amsn. ugh
[04:16] <JoeBlow> mwe, thank you
[04:16] <Unity> tafsen: oh ok, sorry i misread
[04:16] <mwe> JoeBlow: you're welcome
[04:16] <BigKahuna> sorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to allocate hard disk space as RAM?
[04:16] <Unity> BigKahuna: that's what swap is
[04:16] <mwe> BigKahuna: yeah. swap
[04:16] <yatesy> BigKahuna: yes its called swap
[04:17] <mwe> BigKahuna: you should always have some
[04:17] <Unity> BigKahuna: type in `mount|grep swap`
[04:17] <tafsen> mwe: could you give me commnd of adding unpartitioned space to my ubuntu part?
[04:17] <THE_DIRK> dpkg doesn'y work =(
[04:17] <BigKahuna> ok so if I only have 32MB of RAM can I resolve potential performance issues be increasing my swap partition?
[04:17] <JoeBlow> tafsen, try gparted
[04:17] <Unity> BigKahuna: nvm, that doens't work...
[04:17] <THE_DIRK> how do you install .deb packages?
[04:18] <tafsen> JoeBlow, Im not allowed to do anything in it
[04:18] <chmod775> !kernel
[04:18] <kremonte> THE_DIRK:  sudo dpkg -i debname.deb
[04:18] <chmod775> ubotu, u there ?
[04:18] <ubotu> chmod775: Wish i knew
[04:18] <chmod775> !kernel
[04:18] <mwe> tafsen: just run qtparted from a knoppix cd. you can resize and what not in the gui. I think the ubuntu live-cd has gparted IIRC it does the same
[04:18] <THE_DIRK> thanx
[04:18] <sorush20> anyone here.
[04:18] <kent> BigKahuna, you can create a swap-file on the drive. Its the most easyest way to solve it i think. But using swap as ram is very very slow. Its better to find cheap ram somewhere.
[04:18] <chmod775> !ub
[04:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chmod775
[04:19] <chmod775> !lol
[04:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, lol is "laugh out loud", or really annoying when used as punctuation
[04:19] <kremonte> stop spamming the bot, use /msg please
[04:19] <chmod775> I am sorry kremonte
[04:19] <mwe> rofl
[04:19] <mase> !rofl
[04:19] <ubotu> mase: Are you on ritalin?
[04:19] <Unity> BigKahuna: ubuntu should have automatically deteremined how much swap you should have when you installed it, unless you manually partitioned
[04:19] <BigKahuna> problem I have is that I cant update the RAM on my notebook, it's a very very old Song Vaio...was looking for alternative ways to speed things up. Any suggestions.
[04:19] <BigKahuna> Sony
[04:19] <yatesy> swap won't speed things up
[04:20] <mwe> BigKahuna: how much ram does it have
[04:20] <BigKahuna> 32
[04:20] <yatesy> if anything it'll slow things down if your hard drive is constantly swapping
[04:20] <mwe> BigKahuna: you can't run x windows decently with that
[04:20] <Seveas> 32mb is not enough
[04:20] <BigKahuna> yeah I know...
[04:20] <Unity> sometimes, i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. is this ubuntu specific or does all linux have this
[04:20] <hikenboot> anyone know what this is looking for  Unable to find the QT installation.?????
[04:21] <BigKahuna> thats why Im looking for a way to increase the RAM somehow...
[04:21] <Seveas> !tell hikenboot about compiling
[04:21] <mwe> BigKahuna: I would look for another linux distro
[04:21] <mwe> BigKahuna: and not use x windows
[04:21] <Seveas> BigKahuna, damn small linux may be better for you
[04:21] <yatesy> was just about to suggest that :)
[04:22] <BigKahuna> I need a graphical interface, I have modded my old vaio so it's kind of a digital picture frame, the idea is to run photo slideshows on it.
[04:23] <yatesy> that you might be able to get away with, if you run nothing else
[04:23] <jungle> general direction pls on how to obtain OfFice 2,0 for ubuntu package
[04:23] <yatesy> but ubuntu is still not for you
[04:23] <kremonte> jungle - synaptic?
[04:23] <hardbop200> hey, good news guys
[04:23] <yatesy> !openoffice
[04:23] <ubotu> yatesy: I haven't a clue
[04:23] <jungle> yes, synaptic,
[04:24] <yatesy> :/
[04:24] <kremonte> !info openoffice
[04:24] <BigKahuna> what about the thin client thingy?
[04:24] <kremonte> boo
[04:24] <jtrask> morning all... im considering a couple different distros for a machine im building. im very much liking the looks of ubuntu, though i was curious -- what kind of support is there for amd64?
[04:24] <kremonte> ah
[04:24] <kremonte> !info openoffice.org
[04:24] <ubotu> openoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6707 kB, Installed size: 28920 kB
[04:24] <hardbop200> I was able to get a fully-preemptable kernel with realtime privs compiled and running last night on my 5.10 box
[04:24] <jungle> tks, ill try now
[04:25] <hardbop200> (good for audio work)
[04:25] <irvin> jungle, just try updating your box (sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade)
[04:26] <yatesy> i thought openoffice 2 wasn't in the repositories? i had to install it from debs provided by a developer
[04:26] <yatesy> i can't find the link again
[04:27] <jungle> yes, i dont thinks in the repositores
[04:27] <mwe> yatesy: seveas
[04:27] <kestas> is there any script which will wipe free space on ext3?
[04:27] <irvin> yatesy, it's on universe
[04:27] <kestas> so all the unlinked to space gets wiped!!
[04:27] <Sionide> rm -rf   ?
[04:28] <yatesy> wasn't when i installed it
[04:28] <Katie^> men
[04:28] <kremonte> recursive and removes directories, Sionide
[04:28] <Katie^> got it to work
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Sionide,  he means to zero out the allready deleted files so they cant be recovered i think
[04:28] <Katie^> btw.
[04:28] <mwe> yatesy: wnat the link?
[04:28] <kestas> Sionide, rm -rf just unlinks it, it doesnt wipe it
[04:28] <Sionide> *shrug*
[04:28] <yatesy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80392 < thats what i used
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> there are secure delete tools out for linux
[04:28] <kestas> Dr_Willis, there must be some out now though right?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> for the truely paranoid :P
[04:28] <kestas> for ext3
[04:28] <mwe> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some on several live cd's  - ive juist never used any
[04:29] <yatesy> mwe: thats what i just said ;)
[04:29] <mwe> yatesy: I thought you talked about a forum thread
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Several wiping tools (such as shred and wipe) ensure that files are really erased from your hard disk
[04:30] <mwe> or dd
[04:30] <yatesy> mwe: thats the line taken from the first post :)
[04:30] <mwe> yatesy: ok
[04:30] <mwe> yatesy: I didn't read it :|
[04:33] <indo> I have a small home network, 2 pcs both running ubuntu - is there a way I can download updates only once and then install to both the computers?
[04:34] <mwe> indo: yes but I forgot how :\
[04:34] <jinroh> Can anyone recommend a USB scanner for ver 5.10 that will work out of the box?
[04:35] <mwe> I there anything special you need to get fglrx to do tvout?
[04:35] <yatesy> indo: theres a package on debian to do that, dunno if its been ported over to ubuntus respositories
[04:35] <mwe> yatesy: do you remember the name?
[04:35] <yatesy> apt cacher or something
[04:36] <yatesy> http://www.nick-andrew.net/projects/apt-cacher/
[04:36] <indo> going to check it out, thanks yatesy
[04:36] <mwe> yatesy: oh it's in ubuntu, just found it
[04:36] <mwe> yatesy: apt-cacher it was, indeed
[04:37] <yatesy> nice :)
[04:37] <indo> all you ubuntu gurus kick ass
[04:37] <mwe> yatesy: in universe though
[04:38] <JoeBlow> can someone help me out with installing grub from live cd, ive done it a couple times fine, but this time, i get some weird errors
[04:38] <JoeBlow> and ive done the wilki
[04:38] <bSON> hi
[04:38] <Grundo> hi
[04:38] <JoeBlow> hi
[04:39] <Grundo> :-)
[04:39] <aTypical> Hello all
[04:39] <yatesy> nice host
[04:39] <Grundo> hi
[04:39] <chihchun> hi
[04:39] <Kindred>  hi
[04:39] <mase> !cdrom
[04:39] <ubotu> mase: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:39] <JoeBlow> !grub
[04:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:39] <mase> how do i mount cdrom
[04:39] <Grundo> :)
[04:40] <JoeBlow> mase, a real cd, or iso?
[04:40] <Grundo> mount /cdrom
[04:40] <Madeye> anyone have php5 installed on ubuntu ? if yes please tell me what's the default group for it?
[04:40] <Grundo> type that
[04:40] <chihchun> double click nautilus ?
[04:40] <ppd> hello! does somebody know a gnome applet which provides me some extended information about cups? e.g pages printed today, the last week.... printed document size alltogether... printed pages of the last 3 hours... and so on
[04:40] <Grundo> for  umount type umount /cdrom
[04:40] <Grundo> :-)
[04:40] <mwe> heh. a new version of ipw2200 was just released. it's broken there's already a patch for it. bummer
[04:40] <JoeBlow> how do i mount a drive in live cd?
[04:41] <kremonte> !mount
[04:41] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:41] <mwe> JoeBlow: mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/something
[04:41] <Grundo> !windowsdrives
[04:41] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:41] <JoeBlow> mwe , can u do it in live cd?
[04:41] <mwe> JoeBlow: sure
[04:41] <bSON> couldn't you implement in ubuntu that it puts the partitions into /etc/fstab by volume label and not by device? i think volumes named "Share" or "MP3s" are simpler than such volumes like "hda5" and "hda8", especially for home users
[04:42] <Niju> hello where cani download drivers for linux
[04:42] <JoeBlow> mwe , mount: can't find /dev/hdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:42] <mwe> JoeBlow: if it can't detect the file system you need mount -t <fs_type> though
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: type it like I told you to
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: mount /dev/hdb /mnt/<mountpoint>
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/<mountpoint>
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: that is
[04:43] <JoeBlow> mwe, oh crap, i forgot the /mnt/boot
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: mkdir -p /mnt/hdb3 && mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdb3
[04:44] <JoeBlow> mwe, ok i got it mounted
[04:44] <mwe> JoeBlow: great
[04:45] <JoeBlow> mwe, when i do grub install for it, it tells me /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[04:46] <mwe> bSON: maybe. feel free to change it yourself though
[04:46] <mwe> JoeBlow: what are you trying to do?
[04:46] <JoeBlow> mwe, /sbin/grub-install /dev/hdb
[04:47] <mwe> JoeBlow: I only know how to use the grub shell. did you read the wiki?
[04:47] <bSON> yes, i mean during installation of ubuntu, whereever this is done there
[04:47] <JoeBlow> mwe, yea
[04:47] <bSON> or maybe not volume labels but something else
[04:47] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[04:48] <mwe> JoeBlow: sure you didn't miss anything, like the chroot if you wanna do it automatically?
[04:48] <Kindred> hey
[04:48] <bSON> but the device names aren't quite intuitive for most people. i think
[04:48] <bonez> Anyone able to help me how to change the splashscreen? I've read on art.gnome.org but I just dont get it =(
[04:48] <JoeBlow> mwe, it didnt say anythignabout chroot in wili
[04:48] <bSON> i know, it's just a little thing
[04:48] <JoeBlow> mwe, wiki
[04:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: well here it does: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:50] <JoeBlow> mwe, on what part, im on that page
[04:50] <Grundo> i tryed make exe program whit KDevelop and it compline it but it cannot configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[04:50] <Grundo> what to do?
[04:50] <JoeBlow> mwe, oh shit, ok i see it
[04:50] <mwe> JoeBlow: about a page down, just before "Recovering GRUB Automatically"
[04:50] <Pygi> grudno: .exe??? :P
[04:51] <Grundo> :P
[04:51] <JoeBlow> mwe, I never even had to touch that part before, ive installed grub about 5 times this week, and this is the first trouble its given me, i could have done it by memory before this
[04:51] <mwe> JoeBlow: ok
[04:51] <Pygi> grundo: shouldnt you been trying to create a .bin? :P
[04:51] <Grundo> :P all
[04:51] <mwe> JoeBlow: just run "grub" and do it manually. that should work
[04:51] <Grundo> i just sawp linux
[04:51] <Grundo> :)
[04:51] <Red-Sox> hello
[04:51] <Grundo> hi
[04:51] <JoeBlow> mwe, thats how i was doing it, and it wasnt working, was it because the hd wasnt mounted?
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: in that case you can forget about chroot
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: no
[04:52] <Red-Sox> I was trying to use the 64-bit live cd on an amd 64 fx dual-core and I got no gui :/
[04:52] <LoPMX84> hi, can anyone tell me how can i run internet explorer on ubuntu? because i need a browser!!!
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: what was the error. be careful about typing the right partitions
[04:52] <Pygi> LoP: omg, internet explorer? are you sane? :P
[04:52] <Pygi> Lop: you have mozilla firefox
[04:53] <Red-Sox> LoPMX84: just use firefox/opera!!
[04:53] <LoPMX84> geez, i'm just jerking out ;]
[04:53] <LoPMX84> :P
[04:53] <Kindred> i knew it..
[04:53] <mwe> sed 's/opera//'
[04:53] <Corwin> I just replaced windows for ubuntu. I really l ike it.
[04:54] <LoPMX84> Corwin, yeah, so did i, i need it for Ruby on Rails development, windows sucks as a dev machine for it
[04:54] <sorush20> how can I edit peoples configuration files from a remote location as a customer service tool?
[04:54] <Red-Sox> gosh!! I want ubuntu on my computer, just if i mess up the partitioning process, I'm knee-deep in trouble
[04:54] <Pygi> hehe, Ruby on rails :)
[04:54] <Red-Sox> :/
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  thts  when it pays to have a 2nd hard drive just for linux
[04:54] <Pygi> Red-Sox: well, get someone to install it remotely for you
[04:54] <LoPMX84> Pygi, r u RoR dev aswell?
[04:54] <Grundo> okay i get this error:
[04:54] <Grundo> *** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6.
[04:54] <Grundo> *** KDE requires automake 1.6
[04:54] <Grundo> make[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 1
[04:54] <Grundo> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[04:54] <Grundo> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[04:55] <Pygi> LoP: No, I am a C/C++/Python/C# and whatever not developer :P
[04:55] <Red-Sox> !tell Grundo about paste
[04:55] <kremonte> is there anyway to list all usb devices i have plugged in?
[04:55] <Pygi> Grundo: dont paste :P
[04:55] <Grundo> ok
[04:55] <Grundo> sory
[04:55] <Grundo> :)
[04:55] <Pygi> just install new automake
[04:55] <LoPMX84> Pygi,  ;]
[04:55] <Red-Sox> Dr_Willis: do you know about the partitioning process?
[04:55] <Grundo> sudo apt-get install automake?
[04:55] <Grundo> update
[04:55] <Grundo> ?
[04:55] <Corwin> Yeah i recently heard about Ruby on Rails.....now use PHP...any reason to swap?
[04:55] <Pygi> Red-Sox: well , what seems to be the problem? :P
[04:55] <LoPMX84> damn, tell me, why do i love terminal so much? ;]
[04:56] <Pygi> Corwin: huh, ruby on railgun is way better :)
[04:56] <utada> hello, how can i save flash/shockwave movies to my hd using ff/epiphany?
[04:56] <Red-Sox> LoPMX84: if you really want to run ie, use crossover
[04:56] <LoPMX84> Corwin, any? 4 times faster development process? is it any good? ;]
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  ive done it doznes of times in the past.. and if you are not carefull - Yes you can trash your existing install
[04:56] <kremonte> is there anyway to list all usb devices i have plugged in?
[04:56] <Pygi> red-sox: as I said, get someone to install it remotely for you
[04:56] <LoPMX84> Red-Sox, nah, no need, i'll jus tswitch to xp whenever i need to test IE's CSS capabilities ;]
[04:56] <Red-Sox> Pygi: well, I really REALLY want ubuntu on my computer, but if I fry my HDD :O
[04:56] <Kindred> kremonte, lsusb
[04:56] <Pygi> ubotu tell kremonte about patience
[04:57] <Corwin> Really that much faster.. gotta try Ruby on Rails then...
[04:57] <Grundo> i tryed and it says that automake 1.4 is allready the new version
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Pygi: uummm, I tried that once, it's just that they couldnt get through my firewall :O
[04:57] <kremonte> Kindred: thanks :-)
[04:57] <Pygi> red-sox: huh? firewall when network installing? what are you talking about :P
[04:57] <Pygi> grundo: use synaptic
[04:57] <Grundo> ?
[04:57] <prxq> hi. What is the prefered way to install xemacs packages for which there is no debian support? I mean things as x-symbols, reftex, etc.
[04:57] <LoPMX84> Corwin, i'm a PHP developer aswell, but when you get ur hands on Ruby (the language) and Rails, u won't switch back to PHP
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Pygi: what?
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Pygi: i dont know what you are talking about :O
[04:57] <prxq> s/debian/ubuntu
[04:57] <LoPMX84> Corwin, Ruby just increases your creativity
[04:58] <utada> ?
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: and I have a router, if that matters
[04:58] <Pygi> red sox: well, when you are using network install cd, you don't have a firewall :P
[04:58] <Red-Sox> :(
[04:58] <Pygi> LoP: ruby on railgun? :)
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: you mean remote access, right?
[04:58] <Pygi> red-sox: yup, yup
[04:58] <LoPMX84> Pygi, rather a machinegun ;] [
[04:58] <Pygi> LoP: nah, machinegun is not good....
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: hmmm
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: well, I'm still not sure
[04:58] <LoPMX84> Corwin, and, if you don't own a mac - radrails.org, a good editor for free (based on eclipse)
[04:59] <LoPMX84> Pygi, volcano?
[04:59] <Red-Sox> Pygi: mb I'll just buy/rip a secondary hard drive
[04:59] <Red-Sox> Pygi: or just use the live cd :D
[04:59] <Red-Sox> but that is why I came here...
[04:59] <Corwin> Allright. I go and try it.  But PHP has many free scripts. does ROR also have this?
[04:59] <LoPMX84> Pygi, are you 'she'? ;]
[04:59] <Pygi> LoP: lol, no :P
[04:59] <Red-Sox> I was trying to use the 64-bit live cd on an amd 64 fx dual-core and I got no gui :/
[04:59] <Red-Sox> gah!
[04:59] <Red-Sox> command line is scary
[04:59] <Pygi> LoP: why would you made such an assumption? LOL
[04:59] <Red-Sox> o_O
[04:59] <Pygi> Red-Sox: command line is great :P
[05:00] <Red-Sox> Pygi: ya
[05:00] <LoPMX84> Corwin, well, it depends what do you mean by script? ROR is a framework, not a language, Ruby is a language
[05:00] <Pygi> Red-Sox: way better then gui
[05:00] <Red-Sox> Pygi: it's too much for my young mind
[05:00] <Red-Sox> gtg
[05:00] <LoPMX84> Pygi cuz it sounds like a female nickname? :P
[05:00] <Pygi> LoP: lol
[05:00] <LoPMX84> Red-Sox, way way way better than gui ;]
[05:01] <LoPMX84> Pygi, nah, look at os x ;]
[05:01] <LoPMX84> but, this year is going to be fun for linux
[05:01] <LoPMX84> many changes in KDE (version 4), GNOME (version 3) and X Window for example
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> morenin folks...
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> mornin*
[05:01] <LoPMX84> we're going to have a great os up here ;]
[05:01] <Mr_Molez> does anyone know of any place to get updated kernel versions ?
[05:01] <Pygi> LoP: I will, I just have to buy a apple mini :P
[05:02] <druke> Heya ubuntu, i'm using an acer aspire 3003wlmi (a laptop), and i'm trying to get the internal wifi to work. I know i have to set up the DSDT, just wondering if anyone has any experiance in the same matter here?
[05:02] <wdh> LoPMX, we already have one :)
[05:02] <yatesy> Mr_Molez: kernel.org :P
[05:02] <Pygi> Molez: well, compile the kernel on your own
[05:02] <LoPMX84> Pygi, yeah, i'm considering to buy mini aswell ;]
[05:02] <Kr0ntab> druke, what card do you have
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> id rather build my own uber-micro-itx :P
[05:02] <LoPMX84> wdh but not as fun as os x is! ;]
[05:02] <Pygi> LoP: i've never use mac :P and now I have to learn Cocoa thingy
[05:02] <LoPMX84> Dr_Acemaster, lol
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Got an ImacDV in the back room.. rarely even used.
[05:02] <Mr_Molez> i was hoping i would not have to do that, are there not any updated kernel versions made especially for ubuntu ?
[05:02] <LoPMX84> Pygi, well install x86 version then on ur pc, i got it running, it worked as a charm, great os, but don't want to use it illegally
[05:03] <LoPMX84> Mr_Molez, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:03] <druke> Kr0ntab: its nat a cr dits built in, just says "wigi b/g" ndiswrapper has the drivers, but its a hardware problem with the bios formw hat i understand
[05:03] <cleo> how can you upgrade from hoary to breezy with cd? what do I have to add in sources.list?
[05:03] <Pygi> LoP: huh, I'll rather buy the mini thingy
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> I just must expect more out of Os-X -  it just dident impress me much.
[05:03] <Corwin> Is there anyone here who's theme looks like the old motif/CDE look? just curious...
[05:03] <LoPMX84> Pygi, + 30" display? ;]
[05:03] <prxq> any xemacs users here?
[05:03] <Pygi> LoP: no, no need for that :P
[05:03] <yatesy> CDE sucks
[05:03] <Corwin> mine does. I kind of like it.
[05:03] <LoPMX84> Corwin, eh ;]
[05:04] <Pygi> LoP: vi refuses to run on such a large screen :P
[05:04] <LoPMX84> Pygi, lol
[05:04] <prxq> Corwin: i kinda hate it, but have to use cde at work.
[05:04] <Corwin> yeah I noticed many people find it extremely ugly
[05:04] <LoPMX84> Pygi, then go to text mate ;]
[05:04] <druke> Kr0ntab:  hands was off .. its not a card its built in "wi-fi b/g"
[05:04] <prxq> I find the sun box I have to work with horrible
[05:05] <LoPMX84> damn, why i can't get my Intel Media Accelerator 900 3D acceleration to work? ;/
[05:05] <prxq> including cde
[05:05] <Corwin> I use kubuntu...but window and buttons etc are motif like. So I don't use CDE. but Gnome
[05:05] <LoPMX84> i'd love to have compmgr hardware accelerated shadows
[05:06] <LoPMX84> KDE...
[05:06] <LoPMX84> dunno why, but i hate KDE
[05:06] <aTypical> Anyone here using Dapper?  If so, how is it?  Is it relatively stable?  I was using it a month or so ago, but switched distro's for a spell.
[05:06] <LoPMX84> aTypical, stable
[05:06] <Corwin> Yes are these "hardware accelerated" GUI's much faster? like the stuff from Xi graphics?
[05:06] <LoPMX84> aTypical, using it now, works great
[05:06] <davidhouse> hey, i want to install ubuntu on my 60GB laptop drive. i already have winxp and suse installed. will it be easy to repartition and put ubuntu on?
[05:07] <LoPMX84> Corwin, usually yeah?
[05:07] <davidhouse> or will it be too much of a squeeze
[05:07] <aTypical> LoPMX84, at one point there was an issue with locales.  Did you experience that?  Also, did you do a fresh install or a dist-upgrade?
[05:07] <LoPMX84> davidhouse, yeah
[05:07] <LoPMX84> aTypical, a dist-upgrade from 5.10, yesterdaty
[05:07] <LoPMX84> aTypical, and i don't get any problems with locale
[05:08] <aTypical> LoPMX84, that's great news.  Thank you.
[05:08] <davidhouse> LoPMX84, will the ubuntu installer do it?
[05:08] <Kr0ntab> druke,  sorry my kid woke and had to address somethin...  what type of wireless card are you trying to get working?
[05:08] <LoPMX84> davidhouse, sure, if you want it to
[05:08] <tafsen> mwe: witch live cd was I supose to use for partitioning?
[05:08] <davidhouse> do i want it to? :)
[05:09] <davidhouse> or should i use something else then install ubuntu
[05:09] <LoPMX> I LOOOOOVE UBUNTU!!! (and everybody now, 'I LOOOOOVE UBUNTU!)
[05:09] <Corwin> *CHEERS WITH LoPMX*
[05:09] <LoPMX> davidhouse, depends what do u want it to do?
[05:10] <LoPMX> davidhouse, you want to remove suse and install ubuntu on it's place?
[05:11] <davidhouse> well, my suse installation currently takes up about 30GB, winxp about 20GB and the rest is swap and a diagnostics partition the vendor stuck on my laptop
[05:11] <davidhouse> i'd like to resize one or either of them down so i can install ubuntu.
[05:11] <Grundo> hwo i can update my automake to 1.6
[05:11] <davidhouse> i'd like to avoid removing suse if possible
[05:11] <LoPMX> hmm, don't think you can resize it on install process, try installing any windows/linux tool for resizing (like gparted for linux)
[05:11] <bSON> Grundo: install automake1.6
[05:11] <Grundo> hwo?
[05:12] <bSON> apt-get install automake1.6
[05:12] <Corwin> Has anyone experience with VMWare?
[05:12] <Grundo> ok
[05:12] <Grundo> thanks
[05:12] <bSON> sudo apt-get install automake1.6
[05:12] <bSON> that is
[05:13] <davidhouse> LoPMX, and would you recommend that approach or would it be too difficult?
[05:14] <LoPMX> well, i'd suggest to remove suse, i mean in the installer tell it to use the old (suse) linux partitions
[05:14] <LoPMX> and that's it
[05:14] <davidhouse> yeah
[05:14] <Kr0ntab> Corwin, what's the issue?
[05:15] <VincentMX> why isn't Aleph One in the Ubuntu repositories?
[05:15] <mwe> VincentMX: what's that?
[05:15] <fred_> What about RSS owl
[05:15] <VincentMX> mwe it's a game, based on bungie
[05:15] <VincentMX> 's marathon
[05:15] <Mr_Molez> how would let apt-get install packaged from the dapper release ??
[05:16] <Amaranth> Mr_Molez: you'd have to upgrade to dapper, which isn't stable right now
[05:16] <Mr_Molez> Amaranth: k
[05:16] <bSON> how stable is dapper at this point? i mean, if using flght cd 2?
[05:16] <bSON> does it still have major issues?
[05:17] <LoPMX> hmm, what bittorrent client do u suggest?
[05:18] <VincentMX> LoPMX, gnome has a bittorent client, but i don't know it's name
[05:18] <LoPMX> bSON, i'm using dist-upgraded version from breezy, work's great
[05:18] <LoPMX> VincentMX, yeah, but it has no configuration options at all ;]
[05:18] <bSON> cool
[05:18] <VincentMX> ok
[05:18] <irvin> bSON, it's still unstable but you're always welcome to test it and report bugs
[05:19] <Amaranth> bSON: Do you know how to 1) fix dependency problems, 2) use apt pinning, and 3) report bugs?
[05:19] <VincentMX> are you still there, mwe?
[05:19] <aTypical> LoPMX, did you work off someones instructions for you upgrade?
[05:19] <bSON> Amaranth: i know 3), but not 1) and 2)
[05:20] <Amaranth> bSON: then you probably shouldn't use dapper
[05:20] <LoPMX> aTypical, eh, no? just apt-get dist-upgrade, that's all (+ added dapper repositories)
[05:20] <Amaranth> bSON: not for another month or so, anyway
[05:20] <mwe> VincentMX: yeah I'm here
[05:20] <akurashy> how do i extract a .ace ?
[05:21] <mwe> akurashy: unace
[05:21] <bSON> but actually I'd like to help with dapper... what is apt pinning?
[05:21] <JoeBlow> quit
[05:21] <akurashy> mwe, thanks going to try now
[05:22] <VincentMX> mwe, so Aleph One is a game based on Bungie's marathon, and i really like it, but it's not in the apt, and so i had to download some stupid rpm witch doesn't work, so i'd really like to have it in apt.
[05:22] <C-O-L-T> how can i install from synaptic skype?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> theres a SKYPE wiki page - you should read.
[05:23] <VincentMX> C-O-L-T you can't it's not free software iiac
[05:23] <C-O-L-T> VincentMX: I want to install the new version
[05:23] <mwe> !skype
[05:23] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:23] <C-O-L-T> VincentMX: how?
[05:23] <VincentMX> C-O-L-T see ubotu
[05:23] <mwe> VincentMX: so bug the developers to get it in
[05:24] <Seveas> !no skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:24] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[05:24] <Seveas> mwe, Ubuntu will mostlikely never include skype
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> I use Gizmo Prohect
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> better than skype
[05:24] <bluesign> hi where can I get kernel sources for 2.6.12-10-386?
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> Project
[05:25] <mwe> Seveas: no
[05:25] <aTypical> LoPMX, I'm trying a dist-upgrade and it says there's nothing to do.  Did you ever experience that?
[05:25] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: the link to install skype  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/  is broken
[05:25] <LoPMX> aTypical, did you add dapper repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:25] <mwe> Seveas: it was a guy who wanted an open source game in ubuntu
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> C-O-L-T:  install gizmo project
[05:25] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: how to install the new version of skype and firefox
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> is much better
[05:25] <aTypical> LoPMX, I went through my sources.list and changed everything breezy to dapper.
[05:25] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: what is that?
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on let me show u
[05:26] <aTypical> It appears to read the dapper sources, but then does nothing.
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> is a VoIP services like skype
[05:26] <polpak> aTypical: did you then sudo apt-get update
[05:26] <LoPMX> aTypical, so first sudo apt-get update (to udpate)
[05:26] <mase> !skype
[05:26] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:26] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: i need skype, my contacts use skype
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> C-O-L-T:   http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> there is no skype for ubuntu, used to be but now anymore
[05:27] <C-O-L-T> ubotu: the link is broken
[05:27] <ubotu> C-O-L-T: okay
[05:27] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: I believe seveas has skupe packages
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> ubotu  is a bot. :P
[05:27] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:27] <aTypical> LoPMX, polpak, I did that, but still no go.  The last line I get is this - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:27] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: skype*
[05:28] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: can i phone skype users with gizmo?
[05:28] <Grundo> hi all!
[05:28] <polpak> aTypical: then did you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:28] <JoeBlow> !grub
[05:28] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:28] <aTypical> polpak, yes.
[05:28] <Grundo> !sudo
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> I couldn't update my sources because is srewing me the Seveas  repositories :(
[05:28] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> for the public key
[05:28] <C-O-L-T> ubotu: how to install skype. Don't give me again the broken link.
[05:28] <ubotu> C-O-L-T: Wish i knew
[05:29] <polpak> ubotu tell C-O-L-T about ubotu
[05:29] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: gizmo compatible with skype/
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> C-O-L-T,  ubotu  is a bot - not a real person
[05:29] <Grundo> ubotu are u a bot?
[05:29] <ubotu> Grundo: Syntax error in line 1
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> I dont know C-O-L-T
[05:29] <davidhouse> heh.
[05:29] <davidhouse> that means yes
[05:29] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[05:29] <Grundo> :)
[05:29] <Grundo> yeah  . .
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> it PAYS to learn to use the wiki search... :P
[05:30] <Mr_Molez> !lart me
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: I realized now :)))) . How to install skype can you help me
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> C-O-L-T,  Nope. other then read the wiki...
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> i dont use skype
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> also ive heard of a lot of issues with skype and alsa
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: the link is broken
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: that one which is given by ubotu
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Im looking at   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29 right now.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> as i said.. it pays to use the search feature of the wiki.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> theyve reorganized the web site some
[05:32] <irvin> cool repo Seveas!
[05:32] <JoeBlow> mwe, hey can uhelp me out with manual grub install, it tells me my disk does not exist
[05:33] <cvt|kde> how do i make ubuntu play sounds from multiple apps at the same time?
[05:33] <mwe> ubotu: no, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:33] <ubotu> mwe: okay
[05:33] <cvt|kde> when one sound comes from one app sound from another app stops
[05:33] <mwe> !skype
[05:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:34] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: thanks it will work
[05:34] <mwe> JoeBlow: you need to give it the correct disk and partition
[05:34] <LoPMX> anyone interested to write good software for ubuntu?
[05:34] <Inf3ctedFx> hey mwe  this is the error that I have when I made apt-get upgrade  -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6743
[05:34] <JoeBlow> mwe, im using hdb3, i tell it (hd1,2)
[05:34] <polpak> LoPMX: to do what?
[05:35] <LoPMX> polpak, there is much to, np. stworzenie dobrego gui?
[05:35] <Grundo> i am interested
[05:35] <mwe> JoeBlow: looks ok. use tab completion to see what it recognizes
[05:35] <Grundo> what kind og progrssm?
[05:35] <LoPMX> what computer languages can u speak?
[05:35] <JoeBlow> mwe, how do i do that?
[05:35] <Grundo> c++
[05:35] <Grundo> c
[05:35] <Grundo> java
[05:35] <Grundo> python
[05:35] <mwe> !tell Inf3ctedFx about seveas
[05:35] <LoPMX> Grundo, great, any examples?
[05:36] <Grundo> what you mean?
[05:36] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: read that. use a mirror instead or you get 403
[05:36] <polpak> !tell Grundo about punctuation
[05:36] <LoPMX> Grundo, any programs?
[05:36] <polpak> !tell Grundo about enter
[05:36] <LoPMX> code examples?
[05:36] <Grundo> yes..
[05:36] <mwe> JoeBlow: type root(hd<tab> in the grub shell
[05:36] <Inf3ctedFx> I already it done that mwe  but now this is the error I get when I made apt-get update ->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6744
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> Gnomebaker freeze on startup: console -> (gnomebaker:11220): Gtk-WARNING **: gtkwidget.c:4205: widget not within a GtkWindow
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0811f4b0 ***
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> any known fix?
[05:37] <JoeBlow> mwe, it just repeats what i wrote, doesnt add any numbers
[05:37] <Grundo> do you want me to post some in here?
[05:37] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: broken mirror. use another one
[05:37] <Grundo> or your e-mail...
[05:37] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: (+ei)]  [3:#ubuntu(+Pcnt)]  [Act: 1,2]
[05:37] <polpak> !tell Grundo about pastebin
[05:37] <mwe> [#ubuntu]  Inf3ctedFx:
[05:37] <mwe> sorry
[05:38] <pawelstol> LoPMX: are you ubuntu official? or just asking?
[05:38] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ works
[05:38] <Grundo> :)
[05:38] <LoPMX> pawelstol, nie, im not an official ;>
[05:38] <Inf3ctedFx> let me c that mwe
[05:39] <JoeBlow> mwe, any ideas, i know the drives mounted, ive browsed it
[05:39] <Grundo> what kind of program you have on your mind?
[05:39] <Sillion> hi
[05:39] <Grundo> hi
[05:39] <Sillion> i'm looking for some help... after searching on the web i havnt found a solution...
[05:39] <pawelstol> LoPMX: so what kind of software do you mean? are you looking for help with your project?
[05:40] <Sillion> no
[05:40] <Sillion> about a soft
[05:40] <Bevin> hi
[05:40] <Sillion> evolution
[05:40] <Kr0ntab> Sillion, just ask....
[05:40] <Sillion> to import my old mails from thunderbird
[05:40] <LoPMX> no im just thinking of making linux a better unified platform
[05:40] <mwe> JoeBlow: so root(hd1,2) doesn't work?
[05:41] <Bevin> I'm considering installing Ubuntu 32 bit on my 64 bit laptop, is there any real speed decrease or so that I should expect after doing so?
[05:41] <ROBOd> hey guys
[05:41] <ROBOd> i got a problem
[05:41] <LoPMX> pawelstol, like, improving gnome/kde? or maybe creating a brand new desktop environment?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  i use 32bit on my 64bit laptop...
[05:41] <ROBOd> i have gcc4.0.2 and my kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4.2
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,   unless you need 64bit for somtning. id stick with 32
[05:41] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: it seems that you avoid a lot of problems by doing so
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  Exactly!
[05:41] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: yeah, I think I'll reinstall
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  thats what i endedup doing as well
[05:42] <Sillion> Kr0ntab, some idea where i can find info about that?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  my COmpaqV2311 is working nicely now with Ubuntu 5.10
[05:42] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: ok, cool :-)
[05:42] <pawelstol> LoPMX: ok, i see... not much sense to create another one desktop! it's much better to improve existing one and create utilities... IMHO
[05:42] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: I have an Acer Ferrari 4005
[05:42] <julio> hi, i will back to wndows >(((((((((((((((((
[05:42] <mwe> Bevin: frankly I don't think ubuntu 64bit is ready for the desktop
[05:42] <bryanl> Bevin, i'm jealous
[05:42] <LoPMX> pawelstol, skad jestes?
[05:42] <julio> cause the CEDEGA cant function my favorite game! Pro Evolution Sccer 5
[05:42] <julio> (
[05:43] <julio> :(
[05:43] <bryanl> i'm gonna get a dual core apple when they come out
[05:43] <Sillion> the import fonction build in soesnt work or i cant use it ! :P
[05:43] <Bevin> bryanl: I'm coming from mac
[05:43] <julio> carlos xD
[05:43] <pawelstol> LoPMX: Bydgoszcz ;)
[05:43] <mwe> Bevin: to much stuff don't work or only works half
[05:43] <LoPMX> pawelstol, o prosze ;]  tez ;]  studiujesz?
[05:43] <carlos__> hola?
[05:43] <Bevin> bryanl: I did some speed tests, and this laptop is 40% faster than my dual G5 2.5 GHz powermac :-/
[05:43] <Bevin> bryanl: quite frustrating
[05:43] <Kr0ntab> I've never done that... I'd have to search on it...
[05:43] <ROBOd> and ... it's not even the latest version ( kernel 2.6.12-10-386 )
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: yeah, that's what it looks like
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: I'm impression with Ubuntu though
[05:44] <Sillion> thx Kr0ntab  ;)
[05:44] <carlos__> someone can help me with a trouble?
[05:44] <Inf3ctedFx> mwe:  I cannot completed those.. here on the Seveas's Packages said If I have a 403 error means I'm getting the package from his machine and his bandwith is only finte, but now I use one of the mirros and all of them are broken mirros
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: I used to be a contributer to Gentoo
[05:44] <ROBOd> now ... installing the official nvidia drivers require me to compile their module for the kernel
[05:44] <ROBOd> with the same gcc
[05:44] <ROBOd> what to do?
[05:44] <mwe> Bevin: they ought to put a warning on the download site
[05:44] <pawelstol> anyone interested in creating ubuntu packages for my app (kleansweep)... there are debian packages already, so it should be relatively easy... i'm looking for a volunteer
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: but Ubuntu really seems to bring linux to the desktop, finally
[05:44] <kbrooks> Hey all.
[05:44] <JoeBlow> mwe, right
[05:44] <julio> i will back to windows :(
[05:44] <ROBOd> where to get the latest kernel built with the gcc version i need?
[05:44] <mwe> Bevin: ubuntu is great
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:45] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: what would you give an A?
[05:45] <JoeBlow> i used windows for about 2 hours last night, then it reminded me why i deleted it in the first place
[05:45] <mwe> Bevin: you can't really blame ubuntu for sun and macromedia being lame, can you?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  Nothing that exists at this time
[05:45] <pawelstol> LoPMX: sort of... pracuje i studiuje zaocznie
[05:45] <oleerik> I cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help..
[05:45] <pawelstol> LoPMX: tzn robie drugie studia  :]
[05:45] <mwe> Bevin: still it gives 64 bit users problems
[05:45] <Bevin> mwe: not, but I need both flash and java
[05:45] <ROBOd> somebody??
[05:45] <LoPMX> pawelstol,  ;]  swietnie,
[05:45] <Bevin> mwe: that's what I do for a living
[05:46] <carlos__> please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice
[05:46] <Bevin> ubuntu: :-)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> I dont even need a computer for what I do for a Living. :P
[05:46] <LoPMX> pawelstol, gdzie pracujesz? (btw. jakis komunikator masz?)
[05:46] <bryanl> 64 bit desktop isn't quite there yet
[05:46] <mwe> Bevin: yeah you wont get either to work in 64 bit unless you do 32 bit chroot. My advice is just use the 32 bit version
[05:46] <julio> !tell julio about Windows
[05:46] <julio> xD
[05:46] <pawelstol> LoPMX: w lucent technologies
[05:46] <carlos__> ke? XD
[05:46] <oleerik> I cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help... 64bit cpu but not installed the 64bit version of ubuntu.. can that be by problem?
[05:46] <Mr_Molez> * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the
[05:46] <LoPMX> pawelstol, uuuu ;]
[05:46] <Mr_Molez> anyone know what package i need ?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> !info tuxracer
[05:46] <ubotu> tuxracer: (dummy transition package), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[05:47] <cvt|kde> everything is getting stuck in the processes
[05:47] <Mr_Molez> ive tried  apt-get install libqt4-dev
[05:47] <carlos__> please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice
[05:47] <Bevin> How do Guildwars and WoW run under wine? Is it as good as on Windows?
[05:47] <pawelstol> LoPMX: psi (gg & jabber()
[05:47] <mwe> Mr_Molez: qt4 ?!
[05:47] <mwe> Mr_Molez: why qt4?
[05:47] <LoPMX> pawelstol (gg:1083263, jabber<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:48] <oleerik> I cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help... 64bit cpu but not installed the 64bit version of ubuntu.. can that be by problem?
[05:48] <Mr_Molez> mwe: umm wanted the latest version, is there something wrong with qt4 ?
[05:48] <mwe> Mr_Molez: you need libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-headers
[05:48] <LoPMX> pawelstol, what do u program in?
[05:48] <Mr_Molez> mwe: ok thanks
[05:48] <carlos__> please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice