[09:52] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, so you did not get the headset working at any point with ubuntu?
[09:52] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: Nope.
[09:52] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, ok, can you tell us which sound card you have?
[09:52] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, or at least your computer make/model
[09:52] <Incarus> meoblast001, i think so, where is a dot before ("./xyz"
[09:52] <Incarus> )
[09:52] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: AlsaMixer reports it as a SigmaTel STAC9205, computer is a Gateway T-1616
[09:52] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, ok ill check into that
[09:53] <Incarus> aniiena, you can install the lxde desktop
[09:53] <DPCP> Hey guys, I need help with a problem, I'm not getting any sound out of my speakers..
[09:53] <thijs_> Hey all, is there a way to get a USB disk to synchronize with a certain folder/partition automatically when it connects?
[09:53] <TecR0c> how do i create a symolic link between folders ?
[09:53] <thijs_> DPCP: are your mixer settings correct?
[09:53] <Incarus> TecR0c, with link
[09:54] <hmw> Daft_Punk - do you have any idea, what could be causing this? according to my knowledge, the symptom should not be possible.
[09:54] <thijs_> TecR0c: also: see "man ln"
[09:54] <DPCP> Yea, they are fine, my friend suggested that my speakers weren't set as the default playing device but I'm not quite sure how to set them..  Running: xubuntu
[09:54] <Daft_Punk> hmw, i believe it would be an improper sound driver
[09:54] <hmw> acfrazier - open 2 terminals and tail -f /var/log/messages and tail -f /var/log/syslog - do any messages appear upon plugging the headphone?
[09:55] <Daft_Punk> hmw, or perhaps the sound driver is not fully supporting the hardware
[09:55] <hmw> Daft_Punk - but the system doesnt do anything with the plug... thats completely mechanical, as far as i thought
[09:55] <acfrazier> Well there is a "Front" volume, even when that's all the way up no sound plays from the headphones
[09:55] <Incarus> hmw, yes
[09:56] <DPCP> thijs_ Yea, they are fine, my friend suggested that my speakers weren't set as the default playing device but I'm not quite sure how to set them..  Running: xubuntu
[09:56] <hmw> Incarus: ?
[09:56] <acfrazier> And I know it's not a port issue because I can plug the headset into the ajacent mic port on the same connector and get static
[09:56] <Incarus> hmw, right
[09:56] <bas__> hello
[09:56] <hmw> Incarus - what right... the mechanical thing?
[09:56] <rohdef> anyone who knows how to get kde4 into kdm?
[09:56] <Daft_Punk> hmw, the system doesnt do anything with my plug either... it just xfers the sound from laptop speakers to my headset
[09:56] <lcukx41> thanks for tips guys
[09:56] <Incarus> hmw, yes, the mechanical thing
[09:57] <thijs_> DPCP: Ah, i wouldn't know where in X these settings are, can you configure your sound device through the soundspeaker icon in your tray?
[09:57] <acfrazier> hmw: I know it's doing something because I can plug the headphones in and the laptop speakers correctly mute
[09:57] <TecR0c> Incarus this is what i am trying to do . create a directory into a globally accessible location (/usr/local/msf) and then create symnbolic links from the msf* applications to a directory in the system path (/usr/local/bin)
[09:57] <DPCP> thijs_ Hang on a second I'll check.
[09:57] <Nytrix> !wubi
[09:57] <TecR0c> i have created the /usr/local/msf and copied all the directories that i need to.
[09:58] <Incarus> TecR0c, "link --help"
[09:58] <TecR0c> but i am unsure on what i am ment to link between the msf and the /usr/local/bin
[09:58] <DPCP> thijs_ Good call, I was able to set it as the default device alright.  I'll just test it now, brb.
[09:58] <hmw> Incarus - well. then the problem is really interesting. maybe there is a partly broken cable involved? acfrazier: the mute is also a simple mechanical switch built into the plug, so i am not surprised about the mute. if you wouldnt have said, it works in vista, i would say, its defentively a broken connection somewhere on the board
[09:58] <thijs_> DPCP: good luck :)
[09:58] <wers> i want my all my fonts to have the same rendering settings like the ones i have for my gnome desktop. what do i put on my .fonts.conf to do that?
[09:58] <Incarus> hmw, no, it seems to be a software problem
[09:58] <Nytrix> !unix
[09:58] <Daft_Punk> hmw, acfrazier i think its a bug read: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/306755
[09:59] <donatt> Хэллоу
[09:59] <DPCP> thijs_ No luck :(.  Could it be a problem with gstreamer?
[09:59] <donatt> Подскажите просмоторщик картинок ... ?
[09:59] <TecR0c> Incarus would i do link /usr/local/msf /usr/local/bin/msf ?
[09:59] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: But I didn't upgrade, it was a clean install.
[09:59] <Incarus> TecR0c, try it
[09:59] <TecR0c> is that what it wants me to do
[09:59] <InDaLivingRoom> !libcrss
[09:59] <TecR0c> Incarus this is what i am trying to do . create a directory into a globally accessible location (/usr/local/msf) and then create symnbolic links from the msf* applications to a directory in the system path (/usr/local/bin)
[09:59] <Daft_Punk> hmw, acfrazier it seems the issue is with gateway t model laptops (doesnt mean you have to have upgraded)
[09:59] <quibbler> !ru
[09:59] <InDaLivingRoom> !dvd
[10:00] <TravelByHuman> hi
[10:00] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, if you read the comments, other users with gateway t model laptops have the same problem, have you tried booting the system with the headphones plugged in?
[10:00] <TravelByHuman> I have 3 virtual machines. 2 running Windows XP Pro, 1 running Server 2008 Enterprise. I have a quad core CPU with 4GB of RAM. I have 2 questions: 1. What specs should I give my virtual machines? 2. Which host OS should I use? Windows Vista x64, Ubuntu 8.10 or Mac OS X Leopard? (VMware Fusion vs VMware Workstation)
[10:00] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: No, I have not.
[10:00] <thijs_> DPCP: Are the settings for all devices you can configure through that interface set correctly? try messing with different setting combinations for the devices, I'm runing gnome, and I've found that only some configurations work correctly (especially when you have multiple sound outputs)
[10:01] <Incarus> TecR0c, http://help.hardhathosting.com/question.php/95
[10:01] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, it could be a bug with 8.10, i would say boot the computer with the headset plugged in, then if it works, try downgrading the system to 8.04 and it would potentially work
[10:01] <DPCP> thijs_ I'm a noob to linux, and I'm afraid I didn't quite follow that..
[10:01] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: I was considering trying the development build of 9.04, but as far as I know there's no way to upgrade from what I've got
[10:01] <DPCP> thijs_ How do I mess with the settings?
[10:01] <thijs_> DPCP: ah, ok, well, are the volume levels for your device set correctly?
[10:01] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, well, 8.10 is "fairly" new release, 8.04 would have less bugs...
[10:01] <DPCP> thijs_ I think so.
[10:02] <Incarus> TravelByHuman, linux is a good choose
[10:02] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, also 8.04 is long term support until 2011 so we would still support you in this channel
[10:02] <Nytrix> linux rules
[10:02] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: I tried 8.04 when it was initially released, it didn't support my wireless, that's primarily why I didn't switch to Linux back then
[10:02] <Nytrix> !best
[10:02] <thijs_> DPCP: for instance, if you select the proper default device for playback, are all the switches set to full volume?
[10:02] <TravelByHuman> Incarus: Okay... what about the specs (question 1.)
[10:02] <Incarus> TravelByHuman, don't know
[10:02] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, well that was since its initial release, it could have been resolved by now
[10:02] <DPCP> thijs_ NOpe they aren't all set to full.
[10:02] <Incarus> TravelByHuman, i dont use virtual things
[10:03] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: But is the actual .iso image updated?
[10:03] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, before jumping to conclusions, try booting your system with the headset plugged in and give that a go
[10:03] <TecR0c> Incarus when i try to do that command i get, link: cannot create link /usr/local/msf to /usr/local/bin/msf: file exists ?
[10:03] <thijs_> DPCP: try setting them to full, on all possible devices, and then go through each device, testing whether the sound works
[10:03] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, no i dont believe so, do you not have access to a direct connection to the internet via ethernet cable?
[10:03] <thijs_> :P
[10:03] <DPCP> thijs_ oh god lol..  Brb.
[10:03] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: Not at the moment, which is why I would refrain from downgrading as I wouldn't be able to update to fix my wireless problem
[10:03] <Incarus> TecR0c, is /usr/local/msf empty?
[10:04] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: there's one more problem I've been having with sound
[10:04] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, well, boot your system with the headset plugged in, then let me know how that went, we can go from there
[10:04] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: I'll try that, then we can work on resolving the problem I've been having with the volume control.
[10:04] <Incarus> TecR0c, or do you try to symlink directorys?
[10:04] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, if you had issues with pulseaudio server, i would still assume this is all an issue with the driver
[10:04] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: Thankfully this isn't a 5 hour reboot, I'll be right back.
[10:04] <Daft_Punk> k
[10:05] <DPCP> thijs_ I'll get my friend to come up later and have a look at it :P  Thanks for all the help though! :)
[10:05] <quibbler> TravelByHuman: it maybe better to try in #ubuntu-virt
[10:05] <thijs_> no worries
[10:05] <thijs_> Hey all, is there a way to get a USB disk to synchronize with a certain folder/partition automatically when it connects?
[10:05] <Incarus> TecR0c, try it with /.   :   /usr/local/msf/ to /usr/local/bin/msf/
[10:05] <InDaLivingRoom> is there anything else except for libdvdcss2 that ineed to install in order to be ableto play dvds?
[10:06] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, no
[10:06] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, libdvdcss2 is the dvd encryption decoder
[10:06] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: why dont i get to see any content then?several different mnedia....
[10:06] <TravelByHuman> quibbler: Just did
[10:06] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, ?
[10:06] <chrisp1> am having issues getting screen resolution changed. am used to specifying in xorg.conf but things different with ubuntu. help please...
[10:07] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: i know... when i try to mount the rom manually it tells me no media found
[10:07] <Incarus> thijs_, you can write a script
[10:07] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: and nothing popsup asking me how to open the media...
[10:07] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, the dvd? it have to work
[10:07] <harlemdavvey> guys is it normal that my HOME folder is my Desktop??????
[10:07] <Daft_Punk> no
[10:07] <InDaLivingRoom> incarus dvds nd music cds alike...
[10:07] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, which command did u use?
[10:08] <thijs_> Incarus: I know, i'm using rsync, but how do I invoke it on connection of the device?
[10:08] <harlemdavvey> Daft_Punk were you answering to me?
[10:08] <hmw> hralem no, but there is a way to make it so. its strange that you dont know about having it set that way
[10:08] <InDaLivingRoom> sudo mount /media/cdrom   /cdrom0 which usually does the job just fine...
[10:08] <Daft_Punk> harlemdavvey, yup
[10:08] <thijs_> Incarus: is there a trigger I can use?
[10:08] <Incarus> thijs_, don't know
[10:08] <thijs_> :S
[10:08] <hmw> harlemdavvey no, but there is a way to make it so. its strange that you dont know about having it set that way
[10:08] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: that was supposed to mean either cdrtom or cdrom0
[10:09] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, dvd's are /dev/dvd, not cdrom
[10:09] <acfrazier> this seems to resolve the issue
[10:09] <Daft_Punk> ??
[10:09] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, does your headset work
[10:09] <hmw> acfrazier Daft_Punk seems like he rebooted
[10:09] <chrisp1> screen resolution, how do i set?
[10:09] <Daft_Punk> hmw, i told him to, lol
[10:09] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: that would bethe block device which is still being mounted to /media/cdrom...?
[10:09] <harlemdavvey> hmw i know i had set it someway but i don't know how to revert the things xD
[10:10] <hmw> Daft_Punk yea i saw
[10:10] <harlemdavvey> could someone help me?
[10:10] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: yes, and leaving it plugged in before booting, I heard the boot sound through the headset
[10:10] <acfrazier> so yes, it works
[10:10] <Daft_Punk> hmw, if his headset does work now, then its the bug that was reported in that link
[10:10] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, try to mount /dev/dvd and insert the dvd first
[10:10] <TravelByHuman> What's the best file-system for holding VMware Images? (for running on Linux, Mac and Windows) - Ext3, HFS+ or NTFS?
[10:10] <acfrazier> let me get out of the terminal
[10:10] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, ok its the bug in the link i gave you, so it was reported already
[10:10] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: anyways mount /dev/dvd also states no media found...
[10:10] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, not much you can REALLY do about that sorry
[10:11] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, hm
[10:11] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: indeed:D
[10:11] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, did you insert a dvd?
[10:11] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: sure    did
[10:11] <ahmed5482> Hello, i installed Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid 64 bit , the ubuntu recognize only 3.2 GB out of 8 GB ?
[10:11] <acfrazier> went into pidgin
[10:11] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, k
[10:11] <quibbler> harlemdavvey: open configuration editor go to apps-nautilus-perferences uncheck desktop is home dir
[10:11] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, ok, so you are a victim of the bug in the link i showed you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/306755
[10:11] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: this seems to be the case
[10:11] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: k?
[10:11] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, unfortunately it doesnt seem resolved through any updates yet, and it was reported already
[10:11] <chrisp1> ahmed5482: it is most likely a limitation of your bios
[10:12] <Incarus> InDaLivingRoom, no idea
[10:12] <hmw> harlemdavvey - maybe this post helps you: I accidentally changed the name of the desktop folder from Desktop to desktop. Then next time I logged in, the desktop was my home directory. The fix it to go to edit ~/.config/users.dirs.dirs and change the line XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/" to XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop". Log out and back in. Using Ubuntu 7.10.
[10:12] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: I also have another sound issue, I have no idea if it's related, but
[10:12] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, options would be to not use the headset, or to make sure you reboot before using them and just keep them plugged in, or downgrade to hardy heron
[10:12] <InDaLivingRoom> Incarus: gawd... thanks for the attempt anyways...
[10:12] <Incarus> ahmed5482, it could be broken space, try to part, or free space wipe
[10:12] <rdz> hi all. do i need the virtualbox-ose-modules, if ubuntu is the host system? or is that package required to provide certain host capabilites for ubuntu?
[10:13] <ahmed5482> Incarus: how i can do that ? i am new to Ubuntu
[10:13] <chrisp1> ahmed5482: you are talking about physical ram right?
[10:13] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: The volume control built into GNOME doesn't seem to be entirely accurate, the sound is muted about 2/3 of the way down the slider
[10:13] <harlemdavvey> hmw: do you think this will work good in ubuntu 8,10?
[10:13] <ahmed5482> chrisp1: yes]
[10:13] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: same applies to AlsaMixer
[10:13] <Incarus> ahmed5482, ask somebody else
[10:13] <hmw> rdz - is required. must match kernel version. maybe you will want to keep older kernels, because the modules arent always available for the newest kernel (you can still compile them yourself)
[10:13] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, the jog dial for your volume is part of your sound card, and it would probably be related to the sound driver not working properly for your sound card
[10:13] <TravelByHuman> What's the best file-system for holding VMware Images? (for running on Linux, Mac and Windows) - Ext3, HFS+ or NTFS?
[10:13] <chrisp1> ahmed5482: it has to be your bios... i see this all of the time... what is your MB?
[10:13] <hmw> harlemdavvey - i dont know, but i guess yes. if you find that setting, its very likely, that it will work
[10:14] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, until a patch or upgrade for the driver is released to resolve this issue, it doesnt seem like there is much you can do about it except live with it
[10:14] <Incarus> TravelByHuman, they are all good
[10:14] <harlemdavvey> ok, i'm trying now;) hmw thnks so much nayway
[10:14] <TravelByHuman> which is the better of the 3?
[10:14] <Incarus> TravelByHuman, ntfs
[10:14] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: Well the slider isn't that big of an issue, I got the problem of the low volume resolved by switching to ALSA
[10:14] <TravelByHuman> ok
[10:14] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: So I can live with it definately
[10:14] <ahmed5482> chrisp1: Intel DG965WH
[10:14] <shavin> I have installed intrepid on my 8gb pen drive. I store all my documents and videos etc on it. how do i find out how much space if left for my use?
[10:14] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, well, the people that posted the bug, they said that it works fine in hardy heron (8.04) so you couuld try that, but potentially be faced with a wireless issue
[10:15] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, one way to CHECK is to burn 8.04 onto a LIVE cd and boot to it and see if your wireless works out of the box
[10:15] <Incarus> TravelByHuman, ntfs is compatible with windows, linux and mac
[10:15]  * TravelByHuman goes to give his Server image 2GB of RAM, his XP Pro images 512MB of RAM (each) & to format a hard-drive partition (100GB) to NTFS
[10:15] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: The huge turn off for linux was not being able to hear stuff clearly due to the low volume, and yes, I'll give that a try. The one thing I checked off the bat in Intrepid was the wireless
[10:15] <sky_> can i write data from linux to ntfs secure ?
[10:15] <Incarus> shavin, just right click
[10:16] <Incarus> sky_, secure?
[10:16] <shavin> right click the usb drive?
[10:16] <Gumby> sky_, by secure do you mean safely?
[10:16] <sky_> oh yeah
[10:16] <sky_> my en suxx sry :D
[10:16] <Gumby> sky_, yes, you can
[10:16] <harlemdavvey> hmw: is it normal that my users.dirs.dirs file is blank??
[10:16] <Nytrix> !hi
[10:16] <Incarus> shavin, right click the usb device folder in /media/
[10:16] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, well it's not really the fault of linux so much, because the companies that make the hardware for your computer only support windows officially, so whoever makes the hardware, releases a driver for WINDOWS, but not for linux, so one has to be coded... which of course can lead to bugs
[10:16] <rdz> hmw, yeah.. i actually asked because of the fact, that sometimes the newest kernel version is missing.. thanks a lot for the info
[10:16] <diuneigh> •Incarus• I googled it but not getting anywhere...
[10:17] <chrisp1> ahmed5482: board supports the total ram... are all of the chips the same or are they mix and match? same speed, inserted as pairs for the DDR?
[10:17] <Incarus> diuneigh, what was your problem? i forgot it
[10:17] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, some computers work better with linux than others, luckily i use an old laptop and everything that i need works... probably some stuff that doesnt tho like the card reader but i dont use it
[10:17] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: Would it do me any good to post inside that bug report saying I can confirm the issue, or would that not contribute to the final resolution of the problem?
[10:17] <diuneigh> •Incarus• video driver... basically.. it seems that there is no fix....http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[10:17] <sky_> Daft_Punk: you are offtopic
[10:17] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, but the pros do tend to outweigh the cons, for instance: no viruses, ever
[10:17] <sky_> !offtopic
[10:18] <shavin> Incarus: strange. the /media/ is empty!
[10:18] <hmw> rdz: think *g* its user-dirs.dirs
[10:18] <Incarus> diuneigh, try another distri
[10:18] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, it wouldnt hurt to say what model you have of computer and what card you have, saying that the bug applies to you as well
[10:18] <Incarus> shavin, you have to mount your usb device first
[10:18] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: That was one of the main reasons I switched to linux, no viruses unless you're stupid enough to let them install
[10:18] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: Do you have the link to the bug report?
[10:18] <Daft_Punk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/306755
[10:18] <shavin> But i am running ubuntu from it. is it safe to do that?
[10:18] <diuneigh> •Incarus• so I am out of luck with Ubuntu then? how about debian lenny then?
[10:19] <Incarus> diuneigh, no!
[10:19] <Incarus> diuneigh, don't use debian
[10:19] <sky_> diuneigh: switching between distros you can solved your problems
[10:19] <sky_> diuneigh: you cant
[10:19] <Incarus> diuneigh, you can try opensuse
[10:19] <diuneigh> •Incarus• what do you suggest?
[10:19] <Incarus> ...
[10:19] <tehKitten> I have installed Ubuntu with Wubi, so now i have an Dualboot, but can i now install Xubuntu with Wubi to make an tripleboot?
[10:20] <Gumby> diuneigh, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make your video card use a vesa driver
[10:20] <Incarus> tehKitten, yes, but backup grub file
[10:20] <tehKitten> Thanks!
[10:20] <diuneigh> •Incarus• ok... the problem is the nvidia GeForce driver..
[10:20] <Nytrix> !virus
[10:21] <chrisp1> Gumby: I am having a screen resolution issue and that just caused the display not to come up
[10:21] <shavin_> I try to mount my boot pen drive but it says cannot mount volume
[10:21] <Thisdude> hey my computers gotten a bit slow and hangs up it never used to anyone got any tips
[10:21] <Gumby> chrisp1, thats nice. what would you like me to do about it?
[10:21] <diuneigh> •Gumby• i'll try that.. thank you..
[10:21] <Incarus> diuneigh, yeah, try another distri
[10:21] <diuneigh> thanks too incarus
[10:21] <Incarus> np
[10:21] <TravelByHuman> Can someone please repeat everything after the colon word for word (it's for my log): TravelByHuman: Will go to give his Server image 2GB of RAM, his XP Pro images 512MB of RAM (each) & to format a hard-drive partition (100GB) to NTFS
[10:21] <sky_> Incarus: thats fail :p
[10:21] <chrisp1> sorry... I have been having similar problems and looking for help
[10:21] <Gumby> diuneigh, there is no reason you cant get X running with your setup
[10:22] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, see private msg
[10:22] <Gumby> chrisp1, you are going to have to be a bit more specific
[10:22] <hmw> Thisdude - we wont be able to help without more information. what software did you install recently, changes to hardware, configuration changes?
[10:22] <Incarus> diuneigh, if ubuntu dont support your graka you wouldn't be happy with the vesa driver
[10:22] <shavin_> is it because the OS has been booted from the pen drive? because if i plug in other pen drives they mount fine
[10:22] <Incarus>  8-)
[10:22] <chrisp1> Gumby: i just installed ubuntu on a sony laptop and the display is only centered in the screen and not using all of the real estate
[10:22] <tehKitten> Thankx for the help ppl! Bye!
[10:23] <hmw> TravelByHuman: Will go to give his Server image 2GB of RAM, his XP Pro images 512MB of
[10:23] <hmw>       RAM (each) & to format a hard-drive partition (100GB) to NTFS
[10:23] <Gumby> chrisp1, which laptop model?
[10:23] <TravelByHuman> Thanks a heap hmw
[10:23] <Incarus> chrisp1, you can change it manually in the xorg
[10:23] <Incarus> .conf
[10:23] <jerome_> join #ubuntu-fr
[10:23] <Gumby> /
[10:23] <chrisp1> vaio pcg-991l
[10:23] <Incarus> jerome_, /
[10:24] <Incarus> chrisp1, which graca?
[10:24] <chrisp1> Incarus: i tried that and then my x would not start
[10:24] <quibbler> jerome_: tapes  /jpoin #ubuntu-fr
[10:24] <quibbler> *join
[10:24] <chrisp1> Incarus: graca?
[10:25] <Gumby> chrisp1, post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a pastebin
[10:25] <Gumby> !pastebin
[10:25] <Incarus> chrisp1, graphic card, do you have got a laptop?
[10:25] <pop79> hi everyone
[10:25] <acfrazier> Alright, well I have a new question now. I was trying to get my dad to switch to Linux, but I went through the process of installing it, importing all his data, then his computer reboots and we got GRUB error 22. The Ubuntu installation was installed to a secondary internal hard drive, as his Windows installation was intended to be preserved.
[10:26] <pop79> acfrazier: I got that problem too, i have a solution
[10:26] <Incarus> acfrazier, i think its a problem with the windows boot loader
[10:26] <pop79> Do you have any flash drives imported?
[10:27] <acfrazier> pop79: No, but his Zune media player was plugged in at the time
[10:27] <chrisp1> !pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/121373/
[10:27] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, that is a problem with the boot loader for grub
[10:27] <pop79> Well, anything like a flash drive, like the Zune, should be first plugged out
[10:28] <acfrazier> Daft_Punk: is there any way to resolve it?
[10:28] <pop79> Hey Daft_Punk, are you really Daft Punk?
[10:28] <hmw> acfrazier - error 22 means that the proper partition wasnt found by grub. it is possible, that you need to change the entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst to make grub use the UUID of the partition instead of the /dev/sdXY thing. This can happen, because the BIOS sometimes swaps drives.
[10:28] <Incarus> acfrazier, grub and windows boot loader annoying each other
[10:28] <Daft_Punk> acfrazier, yeah you would have to go into the xconf file and change some options around to fix the grub bootloader, since its on a second driver
[10:28] <Daft_Punk> pop79, offtopic
[10:28] <pop79> ok
[10:28] <Incarus> acfrazier, post your menu.lst
[10:28] <Daft_Punk> sorry i didnt mean xconf i meant menu.lst
[10:29] <acfrazier> Incarus: I don't have access to his computer right now
[10:29] <pop79> acfrazier: plug out your zune, then try to load GRUB again. When ubuntu is on, plug it back in
[10:29] <Incarus> acfrazier, dont you have a live cd?
[10:29] <hmw> acfrazier - a quick and dirty solution is to change the entries hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) - but it might switch back later.
[10:29] <acfrazier> Incarus: Yes, I do
[10:30] <Incarus> acfrazier, boot it
[10:30] <aniiena> which uses less cpu, midori or Firefox?
[10:30] <entrooo> Any recommendations on what IRC is the best in ubuntu
[10:31] <entrooo> I'm using xChat gnome right now
[10:31] <hmw> aniiena - i dont know midori, but a big part of Firefox is written in JavaScript, which is interpreded on the fly. This consumes a lot of CPU
[10:31] <porter1> entrooo, xchat
[10:31] <pop79> aniiena: that is an offtopic question #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <Incarus> entrooo, im using opera, but chatzilla is also good
[10:31] <entrooo> the one that comes with ubuntu or should I go download the one off of xchat.org
[10:31] <pop79> i use chatzilla
[10:31] <sheep> entrooo: use the version of xchat in ubuntu's repositories
[10:31] <Incarus> im afk
[10:31] <pif> hi, a friend would like to install the latest ubuntu on his xp netbook (no cdrom), can he do that directly from windows xp ? or must he use a usb stick?
[10:31] <hmw> pop79 aniiena - it is likely, that you will get flamed when asking technical questions in #ubuntu-offtopic. this channel is ok to ask that
[10:31] <sheep> entrooo: but not xchat-gnome
[10:31] <chrisp1> Gumby: did you get a chance to look at that conf I pasted?
[10:31] <pop79> ok
[10:31] <entrooo> alright
[10:32] <entrooo> I'll take a look
[10:32] <entrooo> one second
[10:32] <pop79> hmw: i saw a lot of technical chat going on in there... :*
[10:32] <entrooo> when you say repositories you mean the add/remove applications?
[10:33] <aniiena> I've changed my desktop env from GNOME->lxde
[10:33] <hmw> pop79 - well... depends, who is there and why. some guy flamed me, because i *answered* a tech question there. he said, he goes to offtopic, when his head is full after being here supporting people.
[10:33] <aniiena> cpu still gets eaten opening some webpages, anything else I can do?
[10:34] <hmw> aniiena - how bad is it really?
[10:34] <Incarus> aniiena, make a swap
[10:34] <aniiena> 100%, page stutters
[10:34] <pop79> anyone have graphics problems?
[10:34] <chrisp1> pop79: I am
[10:34] <hmw> aniiena - if you dont have a very fast computer, flash is quite slow
[10:34] <pop79> chrisp: whats up?
[10:34] <acfrazier> pop79: I have static when i use 3D effects, tolerable, but that's about it
[10:34] <hmw> aniiena - you could try freeing up some ram by disabling unneeded services, even disabling compiz.
[10:35] <aniiena> Incarus: I have a swap
[10:35] <hmw> aniiena - FF gets slower, the more plugins you have
[10:35] <pop79> i mean.... chrisp1: whats up?
[10:35] <aniiena> it's a base install of FF
[10:35] <Incarus> aniiena, or vou can by ram. ram is 30 x faster then swap
[10:35] <acfrazier> Is it more efficient to install Opera from the site or from the repositories
[10:35] <chrisp1> pop79: i am trying to change the resolution of my screen, but when i edit the xorg.conf file my x will not restart
[10:35] <aniiena> ram utilization never goes past 55%
[10:36] <Incarus> chrisp1, which driver?
[10:36] <pop79> hmm... on minute chrisp1
[10:36] <hmw> aniiena - if you have more than 1.2GB RAM and at least 1.5 GHz, you should be able to surf quite normally. but fullscreen youtube wont really work with such hardware
[10:36] <pop79> *one* minute
[10:36] <Incarus> aniiena, is kde installed?
[10:36] <aniiena> no
[10:36] <Incarus> good
[10:37] <aniiena> hmw: it's not that I can't surf normally, it's just the one site this computer needs to use
[10:37] <aniiena> that site stutters horrribly. (the site is flash heavy)
[10:37] <chrisp1> Incarus: that's just it. there is no driver specified in the file. just this line:
[10:37] <chrisp1> Section "Device"
[10:37] <chrisp1> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[10:37] <hmw> aniiena - i have flash plugin under suspicion. in my expirience, the open source flash plugin is very slow. try the proprietary flash plugin, if you dont have it already
[10:37] <hmw> !flash
[10:37] <lianimator> where is the trash folder located?
[10:37] <Incarus> chrisp1, and what graphic card?
[10:38] <rww> !trash | lianimator
[10:38] <sfire> wow.. turn off compiz and the media players work so much better :o
[10:38] <pop79> chrisp1: go to #xorg
[10:38] <chrisp1> Incarus: it is builtin on the laptop... sony vaio... looking it up...
[10:38] <lianimator> sfire: how to turn off media playes?
[10:38] <entrooo> hey sheep, are there themes for xchat somewhere?
[10:39] <vineeth> HI
[10:39] <entrooo> I remember there being themes in the windows version
[10:39] <pop79> !hi |vineeth
[10:39] <Incarus> lianimator: ir you turn of compiz the media players works better
[10:39] <porter1> entrooo, there still are
[10:39] <Incarus> chrisp1, ...
[10:39] <entrooo> where are they located?
[10:40] <harlemdavvey> how can i make my menus and panels transparent??
[10:40] <Scix> where is the best place for putting a bash login script wish applies to all users that logs on to a desktop? The script is suppoed to mount some NFS shares based on user name and groups
[10:40] <harlemdavvey> in particular the menus, i have a transparent panel yet
[10:40] <chrisp1> Incarus: Intel 82815 graphics chip
[10:41] <aniiena> hmw: adobe-flashplugin is already the newest version :\
[10:41] <Incarus> entrooo, /home/username/.local/share/Trash
[10:41] <hmw> aniiena - i was talking about gnash. i didnt like it.
[10:41] <Incarus> chrisp1, google it
[10:41] <quibbler> harlemdavvey: right click on a panel choose properties-background
[10:41] <aniiena> don't gnash and adobe-flashplugin do the same thing?
[10:42] <Incarus> aniiena, no
[10:42] <hmw> aniiena - yes, but gnash is open source
[10:42] <harlemdavvey> quibbler: no, i'm interested in having the menus transparent
[10:42] <hmw> Incarus aniiena - gnash is not OS flash??
[10:42] <Incarus> aniiena, gnash couldn't do as much as adobes flash player
[10:42] <entrooo> incarus what are you talking about?
[10:42] <aniiena> if I have adobe's plugin, I don't need gnash.. right?
[10:42] <rww> aniiena: gnash doesn't work very well; adobe's flash player isn't open-source.
[10:42] <hmw> aniiena - right.
[10:42] <rww> aniiena: correct
[10:42] <Incarus> entrooo, the trash
[10:43] <aniiena> so anyone have suggestions on a browser that might use less cpu than FF?
[10:43] <hmw> aniiena - can i check this specific web site?
[10:43] <aniiena> nickjr.com
[10:43] <quibbler> harlemdavvey: then no
[10:43] <hmw> aniiena - is that page using flash at all? or java?
[10:43] <harlemdavvey> aniiena: you mean a web browser?
[10:43] <entrooo> why should I be looking in my trash?
[10:43] <Incarus> dont know
[10:43] <aniiena> yes, web browser
[10:43] <harlemdavvey> quibbler: what about themes, can theme make your menus and panels transparent?
[10:43] <aniiena> hmw: it's almost fully flash
[10:43] <Incarus> entrooo, sry, it was lianimator
[10:44] <hmw> aniiena - should i see the "slowlyness" on the first page?
[10:44] <harlemdavvey> aniiena: then you can go with seamonkey or epiphany
[10:44] <aniiena> one second, let me get the exact link
[10:44] <rabidweezle> anyone know the command line to make 7zip use the best compression?
[10:44] <Finnish_> Where can I get the latest version of Jaunty?
[10:44] <lianimator> Incarus: hehe, that was kind of funny
[10:44] <harlemdavvey> you can install by terminal: sudo apt-get install ephiphany-web
[10:44] <Incarus>  8-)
[10:45] <harlemdavvey> aniiena - you should have seamonkey as default browser if you're using ubuntu 8.10
[10:45] <quibbler> harlemdavvey: i told you how to make your panels transparent it also works with drawers on your panels but not menus...as to theme that do that i have no idea\
[10:45] <rww> Finnish_: 1) Jaunty discussion and questions belong in #ubuntu+1, not here. 2) http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha4
[10:45] <Incarus> Finnish_, "update-manager -d"
[10:45] <aniiena> http://www.nickjr.com/playtime/cats/art/index.jhtml
[10:45] <harlemdavvey> quibbler - yes, i know, thanks anyway :)
[10:45] <hmw> mharlemdavvey - isnt seamonkey the same as firefox, but rebranded for some reasons?
[10:46] <Incarus> hmw, it is
[10:46] <harlemdavvey> hmw: i think yes, but it uses less memory
[10:46] <aniiena> memory isn't the issue
[10:46] <Incarus> opera uses less memory then both
[10:46] <hmw> aniiena - the first page takes quite a while to load on my linux (fedora). i fear, you will have to live with slow speed, if its just that little slow as it is here (took about 15 seconds, windows was faster)
[10:47] <harlemdavvey> aniiena: i told you seamonkey because i better in general
[10:47] <rww> hmw: no, they're different entities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey
[10:47] <harlemdavvey> then guys, why don't give a try to netscape?
[10:47] <aniiena> I'm not really concerned with how long they take to load
[10:47] <contrawars> iceweasle = firefox
[10:47] <aniiena> it's the quality of the games once loaded that is the issue at the moment
[10:47] <hmw> rww thx
[10:47] <harlemdavvey> aniiena: look, if you want a great borwser, install epiphany
[10:47] <harlemdavvey> it works great
[10:48] <harlemdavvey> i'm using it jusst right now;)
[10:48] <Incarus> hmw, the page is slow, but aniiena's pc is slow, not just the page
[10:48] <edgex-_> -
[10:48] <harlemdavvey> guys what's the best office suite to work with? Koffice or Open Office??
[10:48] <Incarus> open office
[10:48] <rww> !best
[10:49] <abra> Can anybody explain me how banshee works via proxy?
[10:49] <aniiena> sudo apt-get install epiphany-web ?
[10:49] <harlemdavvey> i just have to write, i do not usually work with excel stuff or numbers, or whatever.. i just have to write something sometimes.. maybe i could only use abiword don't you think?
[10:49] <harlemdavvey> aniiena - yes;)
[10:49] <aniiena> couldn't find package epiphany-web
[10:49] <Incarus> aniiena, dont use epiphany, its unsecure and buggy
[10:50] <rww> aniiena: no, epiphany-browser
[10:50] <harlemdavvey> aniiena - try epiphany-browser
[10:50] <rww> Incarus: Do you have a citation for that?
[10:50] <harlemdavvey> thx rww
[10:50] <Incarus> rww	, yes
[10:51] <aniiena> if someone wants to root my nephew's box, more power to them. he is 13 years away from getting a credit card.
[10:51] <rabidweezle> any nice new window managers lately?
[10:51] <Incarus> aniiena, i would buy r more ram
[10:51] <aniiena> it has 1.5gig
[10:52] <Incarus> hm
[10:52] <harlemdavvey> aniiena : that's quite interesting;)
[10:52] <hmw> Incarus aniiena 1.5G is not much, but also not too less. Its just flash being very slow, especially in linux
[10:53] <hmw> aniiena what is your cpu type and clock rate?
[10:53] <aniiena> just as an aside
[10:53] <harlemdavvey> what do you suggest me to use to play my music??
[10:53] <harlemdavvey> i have VLC
[10:53] <aniiena> FF runs nickjr's flash better than epiphany
[10:53] <Incarus> harlemdavvey, vlc
[10:53] <aniiena> AMD 2500+
[10:53] <hmw> harlemdavvey - xmms is similar to winamp
[10:53] <forces> harlemdavvey, Rthymbox
[10:53] <abmodi> xmms
[10:53] <abmodi> the original version..not xmms2 :)
[10:53] <Incarus> aniiena, "ps -u username"
[10:54] <pop79> is real player available for linux?
[10:54] <Incarus> pop79, yes
[10:54] <Incarus> pop79, but its bad
[10:54] <pop79> oh... well, ill try it anyhow
[10:54] <pop79> does it have the video downloading feature?
[10:54] <Incarus> yes
[10:54] <pop79> deadly, im definatly trying it out
[10:54] <Incarus> but doesnt work on my computer, it cant play anything
[10:54] <aniiena> Incarus: some gnome stuff, lxde-settings, openbox, etc
[10:55] <Incarus> aniiena, paste it
[10:55] <Incarus> !paste
[10:56] <pop79> i can't get real player via add/remove... gonna have to go to reals siter
[10:56] <aniiena> pastebin.ca/1344284
[10:56] <Incarus> pop79, yes, not opensource
[10:56] <pop79> ok
[10:56] <chrisp1> pop79: , Gumby: , and Incarus:. Thanks for the moral support. I got it working.
[10:57] <Incarus> k
[10:57] <pop79> k2
[10:57] <Incarus> aniiena, k, and now "ps -u root"
[10:57] <rww> pop79: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[10:57] <pop79> ok
[10:57] <harlemdavvey> do you have problems with your firefox?
[10:57] <harlemdavvey> mine is not usable
[10:57] <hmw> Incarus why not ps -aux
[10:58] <aniiena> Incarus: reload
[10:58] <Incarus> hmw, didn't know
[10:58] <Incarus> aniiena, reload?
[10:58] <Incarus> k
[10:58] <aniiena> i appended it to the same pastebin
[10:58] <Incarus> yes
[10:58] <aniiena> pastebin.ca/1344285
[10:59] <harlemdavvey> Incarus: what is that command?
[10:59] <rww> abmodi: xmms 1 isn't being developed any more, has several major security bugs, and isn't in Ubuntu's repositories. Please don't recommend it in here.
[10:59] <rww> !xmms | abmodi
[10:59] <jose> 12
[10:59] <hmw> aniiena - please give us ps -aux
[11:00] <Incarus> aniiena, was the last "ps -u root"?
[11:00] <aniiena> yeah
[11:00] <aniiena> http://pastebin.ca/1344285
[11:00] <Incarus> aniiena, but its the same
[11:00] <aniiena> ubuntu user followed by root
[11:00] <Incarus> k
[11:01] <wullverin1> join #5on5.de
[11:01] <Incarus> aniiena, "glxinfo | grep direct"
[11:01] <Incarus> wullverin1, /
[11:01] <aniiena> direct rendering: Yes
[11:02] <Incarus> k
[11:03] <Incarus> aniiena, i have no idea
[11:03] <Incarus> strange
[11:04] <aniiena> ahh well, FF works ok
[11:04] <aniiena> he will just have to deal with it being a little slow when he draws
[11:05] <Incarus> aniiena, you can also try "sudo kill 8301"
[11:05] <hmw> aniiena - look at the column "time" of "ps -aux" - it shows, how long a process was running by itself. maybe you find something, that causes too much backround load
[11:06] <Incarus> hmw, i did,
[11:06] <pop79> Incarus: Realplayer for linux actually is opensource, look at the bottom of this page http://www.real.com/unix/download/?action=CheckUpdate&playerVersion=<IP_ADDRESS>28&playerName=RealPlayer%2010&playerDistcode=RXEN11L&playerOrigcode=RXEN11L&language=en&operatingSystem=Linux&kernelVersion=2.6.27-12-generic&processorType=i686&distribId=Ubuntu&distribRelease=8.10&distribDescription=Ubuntu%208.10&distri
[11:06] <pop79> bCodename=intrepid&gccVersion=3.4.3
[11:06] <hmw> aniiena - what is the load average, when no app is open? what with FF showing the slow page? (type "uptime")
[11:06] <FloodBot2> pop79: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <Incarus> aniiena got two xorg
[11:06] <pop79> sorry
[11:06] <aniiena> load average: 1.13, 1.32, 1.00
[11:07] <jpds> pop79: tinyurl.com is your friends.
[11:07] <hmw> aniiena - that the load without apps running?
[11:07] <Incarus> no, pop79, real player is based on the open source helix player
[11:07] <pop79> jpds: what is tinyurl
[11:07] <pop79> oh
[11:07] <aniiena> ok after killing 8301
[11:08] <aniiena> it's 0.44, 1.07, 0.93
[11:08] <hmw> aniiena - aha!
[11:08] <aniiena> first number is at time of poll, then over the last 5 minutes and the last 10?
[11:08] <hmw> aniiena - not exactly, but basically like that. i think its average 1minute, 5 and 15
[11:09] <rww> hmw: correct
[11:10] <incubii> hmw, aniiena, it is 1, 5 & 15 minute averages
[11:10] <hmw> aniiena - i am wondering, how 2 xorgs could be running on the same tty
[11:10] <aniiena> no idea
[11:11] <hmw> aniiena - did it speed up FF?
[11:11] <aniiena> could it be that I changed from Xubuntu's desktop to LXDE?
[11:11] <aniiena> without rebooting or restarting x windows?
[11:11] <idioteque> hmw, simple... one xorg got pregnant... and gave birth to another xorg
[11:11] <illumin8> aniiena perhaps creating a new user account created two seperate files for xorg
[11:12] <boshhead> aniiena: how much memory do you have?
[11:12] <aniiena> 1.5 gigs
[11:12] <hmw> idioteque aniiena - i dont know X well enough. idi: you think its due to the change anii just mentioned?
[11:12] <illumin8> if one of them was a root based xorg conf its possible it launched two
[11:13]  * idioteque shakes his head. i dont know anything what you are talking about... :D
[11:14] <idioteque> as far as i know... there could be one, and only one... xorg for a single tty
[11:14] <Gawen> Hi
[11:14] <idioteque> hey Gawen
[11:14] <idioteque> :)
[11:14] <Gawen> I've got a tiny problem with my new Ubuntu 8.10 freshly installed on my computer.
[11:15] <illumin8> aniiena, had xubuntu, if for some reason it created a seperate location for xorg its possible when it was altered to the new desktop gui that another was created. thats all.
[11:15] <aniiena> let me reboot and see if it decides to start two xorg's again
[11:15] <illumin8> although im not sure how that would have happenend without user invervention.
[11:15] <idioteque> aniiena, good idea!
[11:16] <heroin> Hey
[11:16] <Gawen> I'm using a Macintosh keyboard with a French keyboard map, and ubuntu confuse the key "< >" and the key "² ~". My question is how can I reconfigure the keyboard layout (map ?) manually to swap the both key ?
[11:17] <Gawen> I searched on the Internet, but I only found how to change of keyboard language, keymap, etc...
[11:17] <anonusing1> hmm
[11:17] <aniiena> ps aux | grep xorg ?
[11:18] <Gawen> Yes, it exists (uh ^^')
[11:18] <anonusing1> gawen, ya i think there's a way.. just not sure how
[11:18] <anonusing1> gawen, did u try any other french layout options?
[11:18] <Incarus> ha, i think i was right
[11:19] <Gawen> yes, indeed all, and there has all the same problem.
[11:19] <Gawen> anonusing1
[11:19] <aniiena> I've got two Xorg's running again
[11:19] <anonusing1> gawen, sorry, i really don't know how but, i believe there is a way.
[11:19] <Incarus> aniiena, shit
[11:19] <Incarus> aniiena, but now we know the problem
[11:19] <Gawen> anonusing1: I imagine too. I'm going to post a forum message I think...
[11:19] <deany> aniiena, I used to have as well
[11:20] <anonusing1> gawen, ya i would also search something like "remapping keys"
[11:20] <deany> aniiena, whe i was using the repo ATI driver.. Switched to latest from ATI/AMD and there is only 1, and its faster
[11:20] <skurakai> hi. is possible burn alcohol image file on ubuntu?
[11:20] <t0r9ad0> Hello, I installed nokia pc suite in virtualbox in intrepid...........but it is not detecting phone
[11:20] <aniiena> hm, I how do I check with ATI driver I am using?
[11:21] <deany> fglrxinfo
[11:21] <deany> t0r9ad0, do you have USB enabled
[11:21] <skurakai> is possible mdf/mds image burn on ubuntu?
[11:21] <Incarus> aniiena, double xorg, know problem: (german) http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=34970
[11:21] <deany> t0r9ad0, also are you using the non ose latest version.... if not, use it
[11:21] <aniiena> opengl vendor string: ATI technologies Inc
[11:21] <Incarus> aniiena, can you paste your xorg.0.log
[11:22] <deany> aniiena, did you use the Hardware drivers util in ubuntu to install it?
[11:22] <aniiena> I think so, yes. When I was using the GNOME desktop
[11:22] <skurakai> iaf converter cut mdf iso from 699 MB to 600 MB :( any other way?
[11:22] <dr_Willis> skurakai,  you can convert them to iso - but you may lose any 'special' information on them - IF they are like copy protected games and so forth.
[11:22] <aniiena> uhm, /var/log/xorg.0.log?
[11:22] <skurakai> dr_Willis: i try IAF but ...
[11:23] <Incarus> dr_Willis, and so forth?
[11:23] <deany> well you are using the older repo driver then...
[11:23] <t0r9ad0> deany: yes, i am using non-ose version
[11:23] <Incarus> aniiena, yes
[11:23] <skurakai> no protection think
[11:23] <dr_Willis> skurakai,  thats part of the reason the mdf files are larger - they have exra info in them.
[11:23] <deany> search ubuntuforum there is a guide to install latest from ati
[11:23] <aniiena> no such file
[11:23] <Incarus> the x capital
[11:23] <Incarus> X
[11:23] <illumin8> capitol x
[11:24] <illumin8> Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <aniiena> cat Xorg.0.log >> file.txt
[11:24] <aniiena> will spit it out to a file?
[11:24] <deany> t0r9ad0, do you get usb warnings when you start up vbox
[11:24] <Incarus> aniiena, use cp
[11:25] <t0r9ad0> deany: no
[11:25] <bitbit2005> ciao
[11:25] <bitbit2005> !list
[11:25] <deany> t0r9ad0, usb is enabled in your virtual machine?
[11:26] <deany> t0r9ad0, and you are giving control over to the virt machine ?
[11:26] <aniiena> I am half tempted to install synergy on this machine
[11:26] <aniiena> www.pastebin.ca/1344287
[11:26] <bubus> Hi guys! How can I find out which is the FSB of my computer?
[11:26] <t0r9ad0> deany: yes, both usb and usb-ehci are enabeld
[11:26] <dr_Willis> synergy  can be very handy
[11:27] <deany> t0r9ad0, "Devices/USB Devices - select the device you want to give to virt machine when its powered up and your usb device is plugged in
[11:27] <Incarus> aniiena, look at the link
[11:27] <aniiena> the one in german?
[11:27] <deany> you still may need to set permissions for usb in fstab.. its now i get usb to work in vbox
[11:28] <Incarus> aniiena, no, oyurs
[11:28] <illumin8> aniiena, you sent ascii art to the pastebin.
[11:28] <Incarus> yours
[11:28] <Incarus> aniiena,its a bad text
[11:28] <bubus> is there a tool that indicate me the FSB speed?
[11:28] <aniiena> www.pastebin.ca/1344297
[11:28] <aniiena> I am having to type all of these urls out
[11:28] <aniiena> sorry, typoed
[11:29] <ZachFlem> Hi Folks! I can find my WIFI network & connect to it, but I can't access any websites etc. Card is BCM4312, have installed B43 firmware etc. using custom xubuntu.
[11:29] <illumin8> look at line 132 on the machine
[11:29] <aniiena> #
[11:29] <aniiena> (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
[11:29] <aniiena> that ?
[11:29] <Incarus> no
[11:29] <t0r9ad0> deany: in Devices/USB Devices Nokia N81 is listed...........when i click on it....a check mark appears but when mouse pointer gets away then the check mark is automatically removed
[11:30] <Incarus> line 137
[11:30] <illumin8> The ati
[11:30] <aniiena> no idea what line 137 means
[11:30] <deany> t0r9ad0, try adding none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0  to fstab.  replace devgid=xx with whatever your vbox group IS is
[11:30] <Incarus> update your driver
[11:30] <deany> IS = I.D
[11:30] <Incarus> aniiena, your ati driver is too old
[11:30] <badyto> Hi! i just installed ubuntu, i love the compiz thingy :) but something is terribly wrong with my video playback :( can anyone help me? i have radeon hd 3850 vga
[11:30] <aniiena> how do I do that?
[11:31] <illumin8> #
[11:31] <illumin8> (WW) This ATI Proprietary Linux Driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0
[11:31] <Incarus> badyto, "glxinfo | grep direct"
[11:31] <deany> are you using latest version of vbox?   2.1
[11:31] <illumin8> theres another error down below
[11:31] <illumin8> (WW) fglrx(0): Only one display is connnected,so single mode is enabled
[11:31] <illumin8> do you run 2 monitors?
[11:31] <aniiena> me?
[11:31] <illumin8> yes
[11:32] <aniiena> no
[11:32] <badyto> Incarus: in says direct rendering: yes
[11:32] <badyto> *it
[11:32] <illumin8> is it standard incarus for it to scan for multiple monitors through fglrx?
[11:32] <acfrazier> is there any way I can kill X entirely? I want to experiment with the command line only
[11:32] <badyto> Incarus: should i switch it to "no" ?
[11:32] <Incarus> illumin8, dont know
[11:32] <Incarus> badyto, no
[11:33] <Incarus> badyto, its right
[11:33] <badyto> ok
[11:33] <badyto> so what can be the problem? the video si flicking
[11:33] <acfrazier> How do I kill X? I want to use a commandline interface?
[11:33] <acfrazier> .&
[11:33] <acfrazier> .**
[11:33] <dr_Willis> acfrazier,  stop the gdm service
[11:33] <dr_Willis> sudo service gdm stop
[11:33] <dr_Willis> that will CLOSE X inztantly
[11:33] <badyto> acfrazier: try ctrl+alt+f1
[11:33] <Incarus> i would update ati, illumin8
[11:33] <Incarus> i am afk
[11:34] <illumin8> Yea updateing the ati would only help
[11:34] <illumin8> aniiena, the errors are all connected and revolve around your ATI drivers.
[11:34] <aniiena> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[11:34] <badyto> Can someone help me plz?
[11:34] <aniiena> that is what I need to update?
[11:34] <acfrazier> at the command line now, thanks guys
[11:34] <acfrazier> :P
[11:34] <badyto> compiz + video playback doesnt work right
[11:35] <hmw> badyto - huh - maybe his computer didnt like switching to the console LOL can happen sometimes
[11:35] <illumin8> aniiena, yes without question.
[11:35] <acfrazier> Do I just startx to get it running again?
[11:35] <dr_Willis> acfrazier,  thats one way
[11:35] <dr_Willis> acfrazier,  or restart the gdm service
[11:35] <t0r9ad0> deany: still same problem
[11:35] <badyto> does any of you use compiz??
[11:35] <illumin8> i have badyto
[11:35] <acfrazier> mk, I'm going to mess with this for a bit, I want to learn terminal commands and such
[11:36] <illumin8> acfrazier
[11:36] <badyto> illumin8: and your video playback is correct?
[11:36] <deany> t0r9ad0, you may have to reboot for the setting to take affect...
[11:36] <illumin8> yes your using 8.10 right?
[11:36] <acfrazier> yes, I am
[11:36] <mollyringwald> okay, so ubuntu doesn't like me all that much
[11:36] <aniiena> # Use the restricted-driver management system that comes with Ubuntu to install the drivers (envy/jockey/"restricted" packages).
[11:36] <illumin8> acfraizer sorry ment that for another. i have a link you will adore.
[11:36] <deany> t0r9ad0, not sure if mount -a is good enough
[11:36] <kristian1> what program can i use on linux that is similar to mp3tag? (mp3tag.de) i need to be able to remove id tag from all .mp3's in a dir, and then retag them all by using filename --> tag, such as %artist% - %year% - %album% - %track% - %title%. thanks for any suggestions. :-)
[11:36] <aniiena> how do I get to the management system in Ubuntu?
[11:36] <acfrazier> I'm not running X
[11:36] <t0r9ad0> deany: ok
[11:36] <Myrtti> kristian1: ex falso
[11:36] <Myrtti> !info exfalso
[11:36] <acfrazier> is there a commandline web browser?
[11:36] <Myrtti> acfrazier: several
[11:36] <t0r9ad0> deany: mount -a did not work///
[11:37] <badyto> Can someone HELP ME PLZ?
[11:37] <deany> KrimZon, easytag
[11:37] <badyto> my video playback doesnt work with compiz
[11:37] <ZachFlem> can anyone help me with my wifi problem? can find & connect to my network, but have no internet access??
[11:37] <Incarus> i  have to go
[11:37] <kristian1> Myrtti : thanks empress! :-)
[11:37] <Incarus> bye
[11:37] <illumin8> acfrazier, http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/ubuntu-referencecheat-sheet.html
[11:38] <Incarus> badyto, change from xvideo to something else
[11:38] <acfrazier> let me get into X so I can browse that
[11:38] <acfrazier> one min
[11:38] <mollyringwald> someone! come rescue me!
[11:38] <badyto> Incarus: i did that but it cant go fullscreen now :(
[11:38] <illumin8> badyto, if your on 8.10 theres been a few issues with video playback if thats what your asking. Some people suggested trying to install smplayer which didnt seem to have the same problem
[11:38] <hmw> firefox claims, there would be one already running and it cant start therefore. how can i "repair" this?
[11:38] <badyto> illumin8: thx, will try
[11:39] <arckeda_> mosno!
[11:39] <acfrazier> illumin8: What was that link again?
[11:39] <mosno> !seen
[11:39] <hmw> oh... it just repaired itself...
[11:39] <aniiena> illumin8: in Hardware Drivers it says that my proprietary drivers are activated and currently in use.
[11:39] <gix_> gmvukjtyutlv,jhl
[11:40] <gix_> ,mmhvuyillll nm,huitffooinytd
[11:40] <ERROR_SUCCESS> hlshlsliilhhh?
[11:41] <illumin8> aniiena, are you using the recommended pack?
[11:41] <shavin> how can i click my own pics using a web cam on ubuntu?
[11:41] <aniiena> I believe so
[11:42] <illumin8> aniiena, does it give multiple options with (recomended) following one of them
[11:42] <aniiena> nope, just the ATI/AMD proprietary one
[11:42] <acfrazier> if I install the package "kubuntu-desktop" while running ubuntu, can I switch to KDE?
[11:42] <acfrazier> or will that mess up my system
[11:42] <quibbler> !webcam
[11:42] <mollyringwald> booting up ubuntu for the first time and it freezes on startup WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THIS OH GOD
[11:43] <illumin8> aniiena, hmm.
[11:43] <angeliunis> Anyone is willing to help with SD?
[11:43] <kristian1> acfrazier : w3m
[11:43] <quibbler> !anyone
[11:44] <JoSSeTeSERVER> hahaha
[11:44] <acfrazier> I'm installing Kubuntu-desktop, so we'll find out
[11:44] <Sajuuk> hey guys I want to access my server from university (its at home) how do i find its 'global' ip so to speak and not its local ip on my network?
[11:44] <angeliunis> this chat is f**ked up
[11:44] <angeliunis> :D
[11:44] <illumin8> aniiena, check this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:45] <JoSSeTeSERVER> Sajuuk, search en google  "my ip"
[11:45] <angeliunis> Does someone want to help me with SD ? :DD
[11:45] <incubii> Sajuuk, your external IP address will be assigned to your Router/Modem. You will need to find out what it is on that and allow port forwarding on it to the services you want to access on your server
[11:45] <MAG> hello. is there any programs in ubuntu for MANUALLY controlling the laptop fan?
[11:45] <aniiena> I have no idea what video card is in this system
[11:46] <hmw> illumin8 - in my expirience (4 computers) the OS drivers werent any different regarding to speed than fglrx. What is your exp.?
[11:46] <illumin8> aniiena, type lspci | grep VGA
[11:46] <yogi_> hi there?
[11:46] <hmw> aniiena try "lspci"
[11:46] <piour> irc.Fansub-IRC.eu
[11:46] <Sajuuk> incubii: alright, ssh stuff is port 22 yeah?
[11:46] <incubii> yes
[11:46] <JoSSeTeSERVER> aniiena, in terminal write lspci to view all hardware
[11:46] <yogi_> can only help with ubuntu resolution problems?
[11:46] <chelz1> anyone mind tipping me off to where one might find the ubuntu dictionary files?
[11:47] <illumin8> hmw, you believe its dependant on fglrx?
[11:47] <aniiena> ahh ok, Radeon 9550
[11:47] <chelz1> Sajuuk: by default, but it can be easily changed
[11:47] <incubii> Sajuuk, yes, you will need to port forward port 22 to your internal servers address
[11:47] <illumin8> hmw, if the drivers are updated wouldnt it resolve the fglrx issues?
[11:47] <hmw> illumin8 - well, no. on my machines it wasnt any faster, only different possibilities regarding multi head setup
[11:47] <illumin8> hmw, hmm...
[11:47] <cyzie> has anyone got gtk-gnutella connected?
[11:48] <angeliunis> Does anyone know how to mount SD
[11:48] <angeliunis> ?
[11:48] <yogi_> ubuntu is only recognising 2 resolution modes...
[11:48] <aniiena> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:48] <aniiena> sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko
[11:48] <aniiena> will that work in intrepid?
[11:48] <cyzie> angeliunis, mount /dev/sdx /mnt/somewhere
[11:48] <Sajuuk> incubii: ok that seems easy i just change my my router stuff for internal between the gateway and the server but what about when I ssh to the server itself?
[11:48] <mollyringwald> booting up ubuntu for the first time and it freezes on startup WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THIS OH GOD
[11:48] <JoSSeTeSERVER> yofel_, you need instal driver and configure xorg.conf
[11:48] <incubii> wow, rythymbox's random/shuffle is poop. its always plays the same 'random' songs o.O
[11:48] <illumin8> aniiena, hold on, hwm is saying its not going to make a change to your fglrx file which is causing the heavy load.
[11:48] <rage--> true
[11:48] <yogi_> there is nothing in the .conf file either
[11:48] <perlmonkey> im in fdisk and want to create a partition on my 320GB drive that uses all the space apart from 500MB for swap. Questions: is 500MB sufficient for swap, and if so, how should I specify the last cylinder or +size in disk to use remaining space? system has 1GB of ram
[11:48] <diuneigh> what is the syntax to d/l in terminal?
[11:48] <yogi_> what shold i do?
[11:49] <hmw> mollyringwald real freeze? can you switch to console with CTRL-ALT-F2 ?
[11:49] <t0r9ad0> deany: thanks....it worked
[11:49] <deany> np
[11:49] <hmw> perlmonkey - use at least as much swap as you have ram (suspend, hibernate stuff uses swap)
[11:49] <yogi_> how do i do that?
[11:49] <perlmonkey> diuneigh: download? off the web? you can use wget or use ftp for ftp server
[11:49] <yogi_> do you have any solid links?
[11:50] <t0r9ad0> deany: bye
[11:50] <perlmonkey> hmw: ok
[11:50] <incubii> Sajuuk, You will SSH to the external IP address on the router/modem. It will then forward all the SSH traffic to the IP address of the server. You will need to specify this of course on the Router/Modem. How? i do not know. There will more then likely be a Port Forward option or NAT option. Both should allow you to do this
[11:50] <diuneigh> •perlmonkey• yes off the web.
[11:50] <perlmonkey> diuneigh: wget url
[11:50] <diuneigh> thank you
[11:50] <mollyringwald> hmw just tried it then; nothing. the background is black and the grey loading circle in the middle is the screen is stuck
[11:50] <Sajuuk> incubii ok is ssh traffic tcp or udp? i do not know
[11:51] <hmw> mollyringwald sounds like a real freeze. can be virtually anything. try booting in safe mode (or similar)
[11:51] <nety350> hi all
[11:51] <incubii> Sajuuk, TCP
[11:51] <mollyringwald> recovery mode?
[11:51] <illumin8> aniiena, i really am unsure on how to proceed here. updateing your ati drivers may resolve the problem, then again it may do nothing but give you more control options. im sorry but i should bow out on this.
[11:51] <nety350> anyone have an idea for print many files html in one time?
[11:51] <aniiena> I am just going to kill the second Xorg whenever I reboot
[11:51] <hmw> mollyringwald you could boot in single user mode (ask others for how to) and examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log (single user for not booting X again)
[11:52] <incubii> Sajuuk, this may help you http://portforward.com/
[11:52] <nety350> konqueror --help
[11:52] <nety350> sorry lol
[11:52] <MAG> hello. is there any programs in ubuntu for MANUALLY controlling the laptop fan?
[11:52] <hmw> mollyringwald you could even try to get SSH up for the next normal boot and login from outside. sshd still works often, when you think the box is frozen.
[11:52] <aniiena> thanks for the help guys
[11:52] <perlmonkey> nety350: if you run cupsys there must be a way to pass a command, interesting one
[11:52] <hmw> aniiena - any progress?
[11:53] <sven_> the szstem account is in all different server ubuntu editions invisible and the later firmware who made monez with this Gernabn linux todaz chabged the authenticic logIn mode
[11:53] <yogi_> anybody know what driver i need too install driver and how do i configure xorg.conf?
[11:53] <aniiena> not so much and it's 6am, I will deal with this another day
[11:53] <sven_> hahaha
[11:53] <sven_> we have here scam
[11:53] <mollyringwald> if only i knew what either of those options actually entailed >_>
[11:54] <sven_> ubuntu has a securitz and credibilitz problem
[11:54] <sven_> it is aa scandal
[11:54] <sven_> the szstem account
[11:54] <hmw> mollyringwald try recovery mode. if it comes up, install the ssh server, so you can login next time the machine freezes
[11:54] <sven_> controled bz gangsters
[11:54] <yogi_> what would u recommend?
[11:54] <sven_> hahahahaha
[11:54] <sven_> and the videos proof it
[11:55] <olskolirc> what language are the plasma themes written in?
[11:55] <hmw> mollyringwald "freezes" - in many cases i still could log in, when the box seemed to be dead
[11:55] <sven_> ubuntu h szstem account hidden
[11:55] <sven_> hahaha
[11:55] <mollyringwald> alright i'll give it a shot, the pc in question is upstairs so here comes exercise!
[11:55] <sven_> thez probe anz smart kid
[11:56] <sven_> and then if zou log in todaz thez )gangsters=offer support
[11:56] <sven_> smile
[11:56] <sven_> smile
[11:56] <sven_> hahahaha
[11:57] <sven_> meSSz microsoft and controled ubuntu bz canonica
[11:57] <Fougner> hi, is there a way to reset my config files for the sound ?
[11:57] <smev81> any idea why dolphin and terminal will not show the filenames correctly on my ext3 partition (eg. Vermögen.odt is shown as VermÄ§gen.odt)
[11:58] <Fougner> smev81, wrong charset ?
[11:58] <sven_> Zou have NO szstem account and therefore ubuntu is a scandal
[11:58] <hmw> smev81 - wrong character set in use. probably UTF-8 instead of the windows ISO-something. look into fstab stuff.
[11:58] <hmw> smev81 or mount with the right params.
[11:59] <smev81> okay i try
[11:59] <hmw> sven_ there is a root account, but not activated. man sudo on how to become root, if you really need to.
[12:00] <sven_> canonica pesens is fmeAllevll  count
[12:00] <sven_> canoia presents its meSSages after mz login in mz linux
[12:00] <sven_> ok
[12:00] <bazhang> !ot > sven_
[12:00] <dr_Willis> hmw,  falling for the troll bait? :) lol
[12:00] <bazhang> sven_, take it elsewhere
[12:00] <mollyringwald> recovery mode had no option for ssh server. ran a couple of other commands from it and now when i boot up i can see the cursor but it's still frozen
[12:00] <hmw> dr_Willis oops :-/
[12:00] <smev81> can i do defaults, locale=de_DE.utf8 then? on ext3
[12:01] <dr_Willis> hmw,  heh :) i was waiting for the ops to chime in.
[12:01] <sven_> ok
[12:01] <hmw> mollyringwald you will need to install it first... sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:02] <kristian1> what program do you people use to play .mp3 files, etc with?
[12:02] <bazhang> !players
[12:02] <zash> kristian1: quodlibet
[12:02] <hmw> kristian1 either the usual players (totem, vlc) or xmms
[12:02] <mollyringwald> how do i go about installing it?
[12:02] <kristian1> thanks will have a look. :-)
[12:03] <hmw> kristian1 either the usual players (totem, vlc) or xmms
[12:03] <hmw> mollyringwald you will need to install it first... sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:03] <bazhang> hmw, audacious replaces xmms
[12:03] <hmw> bazhang ic thx.
[12:04] <zash> openssh-server
[12:04] <lucky711x> http://datdirt.com is looking for moderators of their new programmer/webdesigner forums if anyone is interested
[12:04] <lucky711x> site just launched yesterday
[12:04] <bazhang> lucky711x, this is the wrong place to post
[12:05] <lucky711x> bazhang,  where is the right place
[12:05] <mollyringwald> wait what does ssh even do?
[12:05] <bangalibabu> there is a channel named #php-job
[12:06] <bangalibabu> can't remember the network name
[12:06] <illumin8> !ssh
[12:06] <bangalibabu> but you can search on ircsearch.com
[12:07] <mollyringwald> looks like it's used for remote access
[12:07] <mollyringwald> other pc is not connected to a network
[12:07] <hmw> mollyringwald yes. its remote shell access (like the terminal but over ip) - in case your x freezes, you often still can connect from outside and investigate. thats why i recommended it
[12:07] <MAG> hello. is there any programs in ubuntu for MANUALLY controlling the laptop fan?
[12:08] <mollyringwald> see above
[12:08] <mollyringwald> i wouldn't be able to access it
[12:08] <mollyringwald> as it is not connected to a LAN
[12:10] <hmw> mollyringwald too bad, this makes things a little more complicated. can ANYONE ELSE HERE help on how one could get the Xorg log of a crashing boot, when rebooted in recovery mode?
[12:10] <illumin8> mollyringwald, did you run the livecd to install (not the alternate)?
[12:10] <mollyringwald> i ran the alternate, desktop wouldn't load the graphical interface
[12:10] <__ddrx__> MAG, for thinkpads theres tpfancontrol (available at sourceforge.net)
[12:10] <perlmonkey> im in fdisk and want to create a partition on my 320GB drive that uses all the space apart from 1GB for swap. How should I specify the last cylinder or +size in disk to use remaining space?
[12:11] <hmw> mollyringwald - possibly a GPU driver issue. what GPU do you have?
[12:11] <illumin8> mollyringwald, he beat me to it :)
[12:11] <Incarus> perlmonkey, use gparted
[12:11] <MAG> __ddrx__, i have a compaq pressario 792ev.
[12:12] <mollyringwald> just integrated graphics
[12:12] <shavin> my web cam is working but how do i click my own pics with it? is there a software i can install?
[12:12] <MAG> __ddrx__, isnt there anything i can do for it?
[12:12] <mollyringwald> (don't laugh, the PC cost me AUD$200 last year >_>)
[12:12] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys
[12:12] <illumin8> mollyringwald, you could try booting it in safe mode does grub menu come up?
[12:13] <TanX> can intrepid connect wireless with 64bit wep?
[12:13] <hmw> illumin8 mollyringwald - molly could boot safe mode (right?)
[12:13] <mollyringwald> how do you boot in safe mode, all i see at OS select menu is regular & recovery & memtest
[12:13] <Incarus> TanX, yes
[12:13] <__ddrx__> MAG, dont know, sorry
[12:13] <ohletmeinnowjesu> I have a question with regards to Bluetooth compatibility on a vostro 1400 running intrepid
[12:13] <hmw> mollyringwald we are talking about recovery
[12:13] <TanX> how can i make it so incarus?
[12:14] <mollyringwald> tried, didn't work
[12:14] <quibbler> shavin: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[12:14] <Incarus> TanX, dont know
[12:14] <ohletmeinnowjesu> anyone?
[12:14] <illumin8> hmw,  so its not booting even in vesa?
[12:14] <Incarus> mollyringwald, you have to add failsave mode in grub
[12:14] <illumin8> the default for recovery is vesa right?
[12:14] <Incarus> shavin, streamer
[12:15] <TanX> anyone know how i can connect wireless with 64bit wep in intrepid?
[12:15] <Incarus> illumin8, yes, vga
[12:15] <shavin> streamer?
[12:15] <Incarus> shavin, yes, a tool
[12:15] <dio444> Hi. I'm trying to move users from 1 ubuntu hardy install on an old machine to a new hardy install on a new machine. The new machine MUST be a transparent change to the users (besides being faster that is). I tried copying /home and /etc/passwd /etc/shadow and /etc/group, but the new machine gives a strange error, and doesn't allow admin users access to the GUI admin tools, though sudo access works correctly. Any Ideas what I need to do?
[12:15] <mollyringwald> how do i add failsafe move?
[12:15] <mollyringwald> mode
[12:15] <shavin> okay thanks i shall explore
[12:15] <hmw> illumin8 Incarus i would like to get mollyringwald's Xorg.0.log, but it seems to be somewhat difficult
[12:16] <Incarus> dio444, where are more config files
[12:16] <illumin8> hmw, indeed, if they cant even get in vga its going to be very complicated to see anything.
[12:16] <Incarus> hmw, whats the problem?
[12:16] <acfrazier> How do I completely obliterate kubuntu-desktop and KDE from my computer? I've made a terrible mistake installing it, my distro changed to Kubuntu, I booted back into GNOME, but I want KDE and kubuntu gone.
[12:16] <bazhang> !puregnome | acfrazier
[12:16] <Incarus> acfrazier, and install ubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <bazhang> acfrazier, that is for intrepid
[12:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> (10:43:43 PM) ooaaooaa: I have a question with regards to Bluetooth compatibility on a vostro 1400 running intrepid
[12:17] <incubii> huzzah! fixed my Rythymbox not shuffling correctly
[12:17] <illumin8> Incarus, mollyringwald is having an issue with the system freezing on a new install, a livecd alternate was used to install it, but no graphics are comming up without freezing, includeing recovery
[12:17] <hmw> illumin8 mollyringwald recovery does freeze, too?
[12:17] <illumin8> hmw, yea
[12:17] <perlmonkey> incarus: thanks for the tip
[12:17] <Incarus> illumin8, do the term work?
[12:18] <Incarus> perlmonkey, np
[12:18] <mollyringwald> the actual dos recovery menu doesn't, but when i try to boot the os through it it freezes
[12:18] <ohletmeinnowjesu> I have a question with regards to Bluetooth compatibility on a vostro 1400 running intrepid, anyone?
[12:18] <illumin8> Incarus, havnt checked with them yet.
[12:18] <Incarus> illumin8, k
[12:18] <dio444> Incarus: I'm not sure what you are asking there. I'm sure the issue is that I need to copy over more config files to make it work, but I don't know what they are. The new machine is totally different hardware from the old, and I don't want to copy too many config files and possibly break something else.
[12:18] <MannyZ> Hello.. I would like to know does PC TV usb work on ubuntu?
[12:18] <perlmonkey> incarus: is that only available for X enviro? I'm working on a remote server thru shell :-/
[12:18] <Incarus> dio444, yeah, dont do this. its difficult
[12:18] <hmw> Incarus illumin8 how to get molly into single user mode for retreiving the log file? how to pastebin it from command line?
[12:19] <Incarus> perlmonkey dont know
[12:19] <illumin8> mollyringwald, your default f10 recovery key wont work that way, when speaking of recovery were talking about the bootup menu known as grub, there would be an option to get it to move to recovery boot instead of the default top line of regular bootup
[12:19] <bazhang> hmw, install pastebinit
[12:19] <rhalff> hi, how do I reconfigure/reinstall the network tools for ubuntu, I tried to make networking work the old way through /etc/nework/interfaces, but there seem to be a new way to configure the network ?
[12:19] <dio444> Incarus: It must be done. The old machine ( a key business machine ) is too slow (celeron 600).
[12:19] <Incarus> hmw, copy it on an external device
[12:19] <shavin> after every synaptic installation i get this: E: linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 17
[12:19] <amikrop> Hello. How can I find the driver my webcam uses?
[12:19] <Incarus> dio444, you could backup the users
[12:19] <amikrop> !webcam driver
[12:20] <hmw> Incarus gah, i cant give instructions blindly for that...
[12:20] <Incarus> hmw, but i can
[12:20] <illumin8> \o/
[12:20] <illumin8> :)
[12:20] <Kaboeshka> hi, I have "load "vnc"" in my xorg.conf, but when I connect with a VNC client to it, nothing happens, anyone can help me with enabling VNC?
[12:21] <dio444> Incarus: sure, I can back them up. But how is that differnet than what I already did when it comes time to restore them to the new machine?
[12:21] <Incarus> mollyringwald, have you got a linux live cd?
[12:21] <mollyringwald> live cd being the standard install?
[12:21] <Incarus> dio444, hm, no idea
[12:21] <perlmonkey> i need to partition my hdd
[12:21] <tjoener> hello everyone
[12:21] <Incarus> dio444, google it
[12:21] <Incarus> perlmonkey, gparted
[12:21] <tjoener> I've seem to have run into a crappy problem
[12:21] <jurism> I have virtualmin/webmin on Ubuntu 8.04SE and it shows that my amd4600+ runs @ 100MHz speed (normally it would be 2400MHz). Is this related to Ubuntu or it is BIOS problem? Thank You! I have only remote access to my server.
[12:21] <perlmonkey> Incarus: it's only available for X enviro and I'm working on a server shell
[12:22] <dio444> Incarus: heh I did. and read for 8 hours before trying what I did the first time. Nobody seems to have the info I needed.
[12:22] <Incarus> mollyringwald, ?
[12:22] <adam7> perlmonkey: try parted
[12:22] <jurism> not 100MHz but 1000MHz
[12:22] <illumin8> mollyringwald, a livecd will give you the option to try ubuntu without making changes to your system.
[12:22] <perlmonkey> adam7: cheers
[12:22] <Incarus> perlmonkey, hm
[12:22] <hmw> bazhang hey thanks - pastebinit is very cool
[12:22] <tjoener> whenever I update my system with a fresh install of hardy AMD64 it says a few packages failed and it wont boot anymore
[12:22] <SexyPony> im trying to get my wireless set up, anyone know how to use 64bit wep in intrepid?
[12:22] <hmw> illumin8 it would probably crash again. i want molly to get into single user mode and use pastebinit
[12:22] <mollyringwald> illumin8 alright, i'll give it a shot
[12:22] <illumin8> mollyringwald, no thats not the end. hes veryfing you have a way in, hang tight.
[12:22] <shavin> Incarus: i installed the streamer but it does not have a GUI does it?
[12:23] <mollyringwald> alright
[12:23] <tjoener> any command I run afterwards it says it cant find the file, so I'm guessing ld.so got screwed up or something
[12:23] <Incarus> dio444, you can copy all the documents and and something like this, and then just add new users to the new machine with the same name
[12:23] <illumin8> Incarus, mollyringwald has a livecd
[12:23] <tjoener> cannot even chroot into my old environment
[12:23] <Incarus> mollyringwald, can you start the live cd?
[12:23] <adam7> tjoener: if you type your problem all on one line it's easier for us to read
[12:23] <Incarus> shavin, no, it dont have, you can google for another app
[12:23] <shavin> thanks
[12:24] <amikrop> How can I find the driver my webcam uses?
[12:24] <tjoener> whenever I update my system with a fresh install of 8.10 AMD64 it says a few packages failed and it wont boot anymore. any command I run afterwards it says it cant find the file, so I'm guessing ld.so got screwed up or something. cannot even chroot into my old environment
[12:24] <Incarus> mollyringwald, do you speak german?
[12:24] <quibbler> amikrop:  look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam   maybe asl say what sort of webcam you have.
[12:24] <perlmonkey> amikrop: best to google for "linux driver" and make/model of camera..
[12:24] <mollyringwald> Incarus not at all
[12:25] <Incarus> mollyringwald, k
[12:25] <mollyringwald> give me a sec, will try the live cd
[12:25] <adam7> tjoener: it might be possible to install the deb for the messed up files on top of the old system without chrooting
[12:25] <dio444> incarus: yeah, that's actually what I'm doing right now, but the problem with that is that there are 78 users who will need to be added, and have their passwords work on first try before I can bring the new system online.
[12:25] <amikrop> perlmonkey, quibbler: Actually, I have a Logitech QuickCam Chat.
[12:25] <hmw> can one use apt-get install in single user mode?
[12:25] <adam7> hmw: don't see why not
[12:25] <perlmonkey> amikrop: find out what chipset it uses with lspci and then search for driver by chipset
[12:25] <Incarus> dio444, yes
[12:25] <perlmonkey> amikrop: that should be supported
[12:25] <tjoener> adam7: how do I do this? I'm on the live CD again
[12:25] <Incarus> illumin8, the system doesnt freeze
[12:26] <maxb> tjoener: *exact* error messages are immeasurably more useful for understanding what's wrong than an outline description of the problem
[12:26] <illumin8> Incarus, sorry? it sounds like not enough grapic capability to me.
[12:26] <illumin8> Incarus, or ram for that matter?
[12:26] <perlmonkey> amikrop: i bought a cheapo unknown cam and it worked right out of the box in Ubuntu feisty
[12:26] <adam7> tjoener: I don't know what file you are missing or what package it's in, but something like dpkg --root /path/to/mounted/broken/system some_deb.deb ought to do it
[12:26] <amikrop> perlmonkey: you mean lsusb
[12:26] <Incarus> illumin8, no, it dont recognize the mouse and the keyboard and the graca
[12:27] <perlmonkey> amikrop: sorry yes
[12:27] <LuXor> guys need help, my ubuntu cannot read KDE.... i have installed it month ago and now it cannot read it
[12:27] <illumin8> Incarus, mollyringwald said the got no picture?
[12:27] <Incarus> illumin8, yes
[12:27] <illumin8> Incarus, im confused. :)
[12:27] <Incarus> illumin8, i know
[12:27] <Leissi`> what's the function of the 'lost+found' folder? D:
[12:27] <amikrop> perlmonkey: Bus 003 Device 004: ID 046d:092e Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Chat
[12:27] <tjoener> now I need to find out which package failed, and why
[12:28] <adam7> tjoener: or if it is even a problem with a package
[12:28] <amikrop> perlmonkey: What part of this info I should search the Web, with?
[12:28] <LuXor> guys need help, my ubuntu cannot read KDE.... i have installed it month ago and now it cannot read it
[12:28] <Incarus> illumin8, if we've got the xorg log we can say more about
[12:28] <tjoener> adam7: yeah, I think there has to be a serious error int he system somewhere when I trash it by updating...
[12:28] <Incarus>  8-)
[12:29] <illumin8> Incarus, watching and learning :)
[12:29] <tjoener> but I cannot figure out where or why, because 8.10 x86 runs fine, only the AMD64 variant pulls this crap on me
[12:29] <quibbler> amikrop: try: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=200261&package_id=237741&release_id=649807        it works for my logitech pro 4000
[12:29] <hmw> mollyringwald i got a procedure for you. want to try to get your log to a pastebin?
[12:29] <adam7> tjoener: do you have a specific error? all my x86_64 systems work fine
[12:29] <LuXor> someone will help me???????????
[12:29] <amikrop> quibbler: OK. Thank you.
[12:29] <Incarus> illumin8, can ne go to the term with ctrl+alt+f1?
[12:30] <pop79> LuXor: please be patient, if someone can help, they will
[12:30] <tjoener> well, the package installer failed, then it went haywire, could not start terminal or any other program, so now I have to find the error from the live cd
[12:30] <adam7> tjoener: surely it printed some type of error when you tried to start these programs?
[12:30] <Incarus> LuXor, what is the exact error?
[12:31] <skurakai> hi. is in ubuntu some burner with support alcohol image mdf/mds?
[12:31] <Ademan> can *.desktop files' exec line have a full bash one-liner ?
[12:31] <skurakai> mounting and convert make me trouble
[12:31] <perlmonkey> amikrop: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Quickcam_Chat_c12344.html <-- maybe useful
[12:31] <Incarus> illumin8, can ne go to the term with ctrl+alt+f1?
[12:32] <Incarus> -he
[12:32] <tjoener> adam7:  cannot run command `<command>': No such file or directory, replace command with anything you feel like (gnome-terminal, firefox, ...)
[12:32] <olavimmanuel> Hello. A free service to get domain name on my server?
[12:32] <LuXor> Incarus: i cannot remember exactly
[12:32] <olavimmanuel> Incarus: opendns dont seem to suport domain name...
[12:32] <adam7> tjoener: did you check your $PATH env. varialbe?
[12:32] <amikrop> perlmonkey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/260918 :S
[12:32] <Incarus> olavimmanuel, search something else
[12:32] <pop79> olavimmanuel: That is more offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <Incarus> LuXor, write it down next time, without i cant help you
[12:33] <quibbler> amikrop: you can also look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516614
[12:33] <olavimmanuel> ok, will do
[12:33] <hmw> mollyringwald you still there?
[12:33] <illumin8> Incarus, Sorry i was semi afk, the system "locks up" in mollys words and being i didnt know how to proceed by command line i didnt suggest that yet.
[12:33] <Incarus> olavimmanuel, https://www.dyndns.com/ , http://www.freedns.com/
[12:33] <illumin8> hmw, the pc in question is in another room
[12:34] <Art4k> i need some tar.gz compuler..
[12:34] <hmw> illumin8 i got a procedure for extracting the xorg.log
[12:34] <Art4k> compiler*
[12:34] <tjoener> well, can I check it from the livecd?
[12:34] <illumin8> hmw, nice!
[12:34] <Incarus> illumin8, if he can't change to the term, it is the bug i think
[12:34] <k44d33> is it possible to install ubuntu 8.10 when using a CentaurHauls core?
[12:35] <Incarus> Art4k tar.gz is an archive, not a programming language
[12:35] <quibbler> Art4k: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[12:35] <Art4k> thanks
[12:35] <pop79> Hey, when i installed ubuntu 8.04, about last year sometime, i think it installed two bootloaders, one for my windows drive (the internal drive) and another for the ubuntu drive (the external drive. Is this meant to happen?
[12:36] <Incarus> pop79, you just need one bootlader
[12:36] <mollyringwald> tried selecting the try option on the live cd and it won't load the gnome display manager
[12:36] <pop79> i know, but it installed two
[12:37] <Incarus> mollyringwald, the try option?
[12:37] <illumin8> Incarus, live mode.
[12:37] <Incarus> mollyringwald, try it with vesa drivers
[12:37] <tjoener> adam7: I can't check environment variables of my installed system from the livecd?
[12:37] <Incarus> illumin8, k
[12:37] <amikrop> quibbler: alright
[12:37] <adam7> tjoener: no, you'll need to boot into the system
[12:37] <hmw> mollyringwald i have a procedure for extracting the xorg log for you - does the machine have internet access?
[12:37] <mollyringwald> not at all
[12:37] <Incarus> pop79, and whats your question?
[12:37] <tjoener> adam7: well, I can't boot into it anymore, that's the problem :)
[12:38] <hmw> mollyringwald gah.... some usb flash disk available?
[12:38] <pop79> Incarus: why did it install two bootloaders?
[12:38] <hmw> mollyringwald or a floppy disk?
[12:38] <adam7> tjoener: and you said you can't chroot into it either?
[12:38] <Incarus> pop79, oh
[12:38] <tjoener> jep
[12:38] <adam7> tjoener: does chrooting give you an error?
[12:38] <quibbler> amikrop: i take it something worked.
[12:38] <Incarus> mollyringwald, do you have got an installed windows?
[12:38] <illumin8> mollyringwald, at the bottom of the screen prior to selecting try option, there are selections, one will say "vesa" you should try running the try option with vesa selected
[12:38] <mollyringwald> don't have a flash drive on hand/haven't seen a floppy in ages
[12:38] <mollyringwald> xp home is installed yes
[12:38] <Incarus> mollyringwald, boot into windows
[12:39] <tjoener> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[12:39] <ikonia> tjoener: look at the libraries it's linked against
[12:39] <ehloreverse> Hi, who is ubuntu.com irclogs staff ?
[12:39] <Mob[ST]er> HI !
[12:39] <int256> a software to use my tv-tuner card ??
[12:39] <hmw> ahh Incarus mollyringwald this situation is truly challenging
[12:39] <amikrop> quibbler: no, I 'll start trying now :P
[12:39] <tjoener> 	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffb6dfe000)
[12:39] <tjoener> 	libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x00007fc3ae8d6000)
[12:39] <tjoener> 	libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fc3ae6d2000)
[12:39] <tjoener> 	libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007fc3ae360000)
[12:39] <tjoener> 	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fc3aeb11000)
[12:39] <FloodBot2> tjoener: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <tjoener> (sorry for the large paste)
[12:39] <pop79> !howdy |Mob[ST]er
[12:40] <Incarus> hmw, yeah
[12:40] <amikrop> quibbler, perlmonkey: OK, then. Thank you both. :-)
[12:40] <pop79> tjoener: that happened me once, i nearly got banned
[12:40] <Mob[ST]er> Can anyone please tell me how to stop ubuntu from asking me the root password for every single stupid thing I wanna do like Opening a file or a folder
[12:40] <kristian1> i just installed quod libet and want to add all my music from ~/Music. how can i do that, it doesn't want to when i try. :o
[12:40] <tjoener> forgot I was on IRC :s
[12:40] <ehloreverse> i'm search irclogs.ubuntu.com staff
[12:40] <tjoener> but lib64 is not in the root of the installed file system
[12:40] <shavin> i tried camorama but when run it errs ans says 'unable to take picture'
[12:40] <pop79> Mob[ST]er: i wanted to know that as well
[12:41] <hmw> shavin cheese might be able to do it
[12:41] <Mob[ST]er> please tell me it's possible ...
[12:41] <shavin> actually it says 'unable to capture images'
[12:41] <Incarus> Mob[ST]er, pop79, you can change the linux security settings
[12:41] <bazhang> Mob[ST]er, there is no root password enabled; use sudo
[12:41] <ehloreverse> Are you there LjL ?
[12:41] <pop79> Mob[ST]er: anything is possible...
[12:41] <pop79> Incarus: how
[12:42] <ashwiNN> i want to load a module at boot time how do i do that
[12:42] <perlmonkey> hardware particularly USB/cams is a nightmare in Linux, it's very hit and miss. the advice I would give is to check compatibility and driver availability BEFORE you purchase
[12:42] <Mob[ST]er> Incarus: can you tell me how can I do this or where I could get the info ?
[12:42] <hmw> Mob[ST]er you can use sudo for becoming the root user (see man page)
[12:42] <pop79> Incarus: yea, how?
[12:42] <shavin> the thing is camera is working in ekiga. does that mean the driver is fine?
[12:42] <Incarus> pop79, dont know
[12:43] <perlmonkey> well a driver in one dist may not be available or working properly in another
[12:43] <perlmonkey> but generally if it works in one distro it should work in most
[12:43] <pop79> Incarus: tut tut tut.....
[12:43] <adam7> pop79: sudo -i
[12:43] <ashwiNN> i want to load a module at boot time how do i do that
[12:43] <pop79> ok
[12:43] <Incarus> adam7, right
[12:43] <tjoener> adam7: I checked the root of the installed system, but the lib64 folder is missing in its entirety
[12:44] <adam7> tjoener: on my system lib64 is a symlnink
[12:44] <danbhfive_jaunty> shavin: did you say cheese works for you? or not?
[12:44] <adam7> tjoener: a symlink to /lib
[12:44] <perlmonkey> often you can get hardware to work but it requires a degree of fiddling around and hardware may only work partially or not reliably
[12:44] <kristian1> i've just installed quod libet and want to add all my music from ~/Music to the quod libet library. i've tried: Music - Add a folder... - Browsing to the folder - Open. doesn't work. any thoughts?
[12:44] <tjoener> And I think its a symbolic link, so I made one, ln -sv lib lib64
[12:44] <pop79> adam7: worked... sorta
[12:44] <shavin> cheese is working. but the image is veryyy dark
[12:44] <tjoener> but the ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 is missing too
[12:45] <perlmonkey> this is not a problem of Linux or any distro, but rather an unwillingness of manufacturers to provide open source driver support for their hardware
[12:45] <shavin> the pic is much better in ekiga i wish i could click my pic over there in ekiga
[12:45] <tjoener> probably when upgrading libc it went haywire
[12:45] <venu> hi. I am trying to install ubuntu server and configure raid 1. I have 3 disks (all IDE) a 250GGB and an 80GN configured as a master and slave and another 250GB configured as a master.
[12:45] <hmw> shavin - install v4l2ucp
[12:45] <shavin> hmw: okay
[12:46] <venu> ubuntu does not allow me to configure the the second hard disk as for raid.
[12:46] <int256> has any one tried to install parallels in ubuntu 8.10
[12:46] <adam7> tjoener: on my system I have /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[12:46] <perlmonkey> venu: you drives need to be the same size, unless you're using partitions of equal size
[12:46] <Art4k> whats the problem "error: openssl/ssl.h: No such file or directory" ?
[12:46] <perlmonkey> *your
[12:46] <adam7> tjoener: did you try resymlinking lib64 to lib?
[12:46] <Incarus> Art4k wrong compiled
[12:46] <erUSUL> Art4k: you need the openssl dev package
[12:46] <venu> perlmonkey: yes, I am trying to configure raid1 on two drives of 250gb each :)
[12:46] <tjoener> jep, I did
[12:46] <Art4k> ok
[12:47] <perlmonkey> venu: ok sorry i misunderstood
[12:47] <erUSUL> !raid | venu
[12:47] <venu> perlmonkey: unfortunately, ubuntu does not allow me to see the second hard drive as a raid partition.
[12:47] <shavin> hmw: is it v 4 l 2 u c p ?
[12:47] <tjoener> maybe copy the ld-linux-x86-64... to the root fs /lib?
[12:47] <hmw> shavin yes
[12:47] <Mob[ST]er> bazhang: I use sudo but the thing is, let say I have to edit 10 files ... I don't want to sudo every single file ! How can I do that ?
[12:47] <shavin> it is not there in synaptic?
[12:47] <hmw> shavin a little GUI tool that lets you set brightness and stuff
[12:47] <Incarus> tjoener, you can install the x86 ubuntu
[12:48] <perlmonkey> venu: i had a similiar problem with raid 1 as you, i just gave up in the end I decided it wasnt work the extra layer of complexity in my setup for the redundancy it offered
[12:48] <adam7> Mob[ST]er: sudo EDITOR_NAME file1 file2 file3 file4 file5 etc
[12:48] <adam7> tjoener: did you try resymlinking lib64 to lib?
[12:48] <perlmonkey> *work = worth
[12:48] <shavin> hmw: i mean i cant find it in synaptic. should i try apt-get?
[12:48] <tjoener> adam7: yes I did, but the so loader for x86-64 is missing
[12:48] <venu> perlmonkey: interesting, thanks.
[12:48] <Mob[ST]er> adam7: this is far from beeing effecient .... Thanks for the help but ...
[12:48] <tjoener> adam7: I think libc update screwed it up
[12:48] <Incarus> shavin, no, wont worj
[12:48] <hmw> Mob[ST]er - you can become root with sudo (not only for each single line) - adam7 told you how to
[12:48] <int256> can i upgrade ubuntu 8.10 to ubuntu studio
[12:48] <Incarus> -k
[12:49] <perlmonkey> venu: saying that, I ran soft raid-5 for 5 years without any problems at all in Debian back in the day before SATA when i had 18.2GB SCSI ;-)
[12:49] <adam7> Mob[ST]er: well, I don't know what files you want to edit, but if they all start with the same thing, you can do sudo EDITOR_NAME prefix*
[12:50] <Mob[ST]er> it's unfortunatly not the case ... :S
[12:50] <hmw> shavin - uhm... not sure. i have additional repos, so i cant tell easily. maybe you can get a .deb file for download
[12:50] <adam7> Mob[ST]er: well, then how do you expect the computer to figure it out? just use tab completion and type them in. it won't take long
[12:50] <Mob[ST]er> I tried sudo -i and the opened the files with double clicks and Ubuntu still doesnt let me edit the files
[12:51] <Incarus> Mob[ST]er, you need to be root to edit sys files
[12:51] <Mob[ST]er> I simply want to be able to click on the files I want to edit and "voila"
[12:51] <adam7> Mob[ST]er: just out of curiosity what files are you trying to eidt?
[12:51] <jrib> Mob[ST]er: sudo -i gives you a shell in which all your commands have superuser privileges.  It does not affect your gui environment
[12:51] <Incarus> Mob[ST]er, add a option "edit as root"
[12:51] <Mob[ST]er> hosts, my httpd.conf file, the content of a mysql folder ... etc. etc. etc.
[12:51] <Incarus> Mob[ST]er, do you use nautilus?
[12:51] <int256> i have ubuntu install on my HDD and now using it. i want to install Windows XP on the same partition without uninstalling ubuntu, is that possible ?
[12:52] <hmw> Mob[ST]er - not very reccomendable method is "gksudo nautilus" - but this way you might damage your system easily. use with caution
[12:52] <adam7> int256: yes, but it's difficult
[12:52] <Mob[ST]er> Incarus: no .... and as you can see, I'm very new at this ;)
[12:52] <int256> adam7: how ? pls explain.
[12:52] <adam7> int256: XP will want to be the first primary partition and it will overwrite the boot loader
[12:52] <Incarus> Mob[ST]er, -> hmw
[12:52] <maverick340> how do i remove messages from the outbox queue in evolution ?
[12:52] <int256> adam7: ok
[12:52] <hmw> !grub | int256
[12:53] <adam7> int256: if you have an extra hard drive, you may want to consider backing up your ubuntu system, installing XP, and restoring the ubuntu system
[12:53] <Mob[ST]er> Incarus: hmw ?
[12:53] <hmw> int256 - you will have to let windows destroy grub, unfortunately
[12:53] <Incarus> Mob[ST]er, look at hmw's comment
[12:53] <cooldduuudde> its pretty easy 2 reinstall grug
[12:53] <acfrazier> is x-chat free?
[12:53] <cooldduuudde> *grub
[12:53] <adam7> acfrazier: yep
[12:53] <quibbler> acfrazier: yes
[12:54] <int256> adam7: can i recover the ubuntu bootloader after installing xp
[12:54] <adam7> !grub | int256
[12:54] <hmw> int256 - yes
[12:54] <Mob[ST]er> hmmm... cool app :)
[12:54] <adam7> int256: it's not hard, you just need to follow the link above on a live cd
[12:54] <Mob[ST]er> thanks guys !
[12:54] <tjoener> adam7: I'm trying some stuff here, but when I try to unpack libc6_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu9_amd64.deb it says: "tar: skipping to next header \n tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
[12:55] <shavin> have to go. thanks for all the  help guys
[12:55] <tjoener> could my mirror be screwed?
[12:55] <Incarus> tjoener, install the x86 ubuntu
[12:55] <adam7> Incarus: that's not a solution
[12:55] <rdakin> i need to install the sqlite 3 client on my Hardy box, but apt installs 2.8.17 -- is there a way to do this?
[12:55] <int256> ok
[12:55] <tjoener> indeed
[12:55] <adam7> tjoener: try this: dpkg -i --root /path/to/messed/up/install libc6<tab>
[12:55] <Mob[ST]er> ..... I still can't open any files with this
[12:55] <tjoener> rdakin: apt-get install sqlite3 If i'm correct
[12:55] <Incarus> adam7, he got problems with the x46 files, or?
[12:56] <rdakin> tjoener: ty, trying...
[12:56] <adam7> Incarus: I think he just got a bad package
[12:56] <kristian1> i've added ~/Music to Quod Libet library. then i select all tracks and right-click and press edit tags. now how do i remove old tags and replace tags with %artist% - %year% - %album% - %track% - %title%, which all the .mp3's are named as. example: a filenamed - "Bruce Springsteen - 2009 - Working On A Dream - 01 - Outlaw Pete.mp3", remove old tags and add tags according to filename?
[12:56] <int256> i installed ubuntu in ext2 type partition. then how can i install xp there.
[12:56] <jrib> int256: you mean virtualized?
[12:56] <Incarus> tjoener, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:56] <adam7> tjoener: try downloading the deb from a different mirror
[12:56] <int256> jrib: no
[12:56] <tjoener> I'm gonna try that
[12:56] <Incarus> int256, make a new partition with linux
[12:56] <hmw> Mob[ST]er - enter root with "sudo -i" and use nano for editing. but be extremely cautious, a simple typo may mess up your whole sys. always triple check befor hitting enter.
[12:56] <Mob[ST]er> it's unbelivable how complicated it is to do a very very simple task with linux :S
[12:56] <tjoener> I'll be back in a few mins, searching for a mirror
[12:57] <Incarus> tjoener, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:57] <Mob[ST]er> hmw: thanks again .
[12:57] <rdakin> what is the difference between apt-get install FOO and aptitude install FOO
[12:57] <Incarus> np
[12:57] <int256> Incarus: using gparted ?
[12:57] <jrib> Mob[ST]er: you should explain exactly what you are doing
[12:57] <Incarus> int256, yes
[12:57] <Incarus> rdakin, different software
[12:57] <Incarus> rdakin, apt get is better
[12:57] <rdakin> Incarus: same effect?
[12:57] <Incarus> yes
[12:57] <jrib> rdakin: not much nowadays
[12:57] <rdakin> Incarus: ty
[12:57] <int256> Incarus: ok. i which format ?
[12:58] <Incarus> int256, ntfs or fat
[12:58] <Mob[ST]er> jrib: that's the thing , I simply want to open some files and a folder but ubuntu says I don't have the permissions to do it :S
[12:58] <McQueen> hi, i have got a intel centrino 1.6 notebook.... which version can i install? i586 or i386 or an other?
[12:58] <Incarus> int256, then boot the win cd
[12:58] <adam7> !sudo | Mob[ST]er
[12:58] <adam7> !root | Mob[ST]er
[12:58] <cooldduuudde> int256, ntfs is better
[12:58] <Incarus> int256, and install win from the cd (on the right partition)
[12:58] <int256> ok
[12:59] <Mob[ST]er> thanks a lot guys, I'm gonna read all this.
[12:59] <hmw> cool factoid, adam7
[12:59] <Incarus> cooldduuudde, it doenst matter, because windows will part it in ntfs
[12:59] <adam7> Mob[ST]er: as a regular user, you don't have permissions to edit random system files -- you need to be the root user. this is what makes linux secure
[12:59] <McQueen> hi, i have got a intel centrino 1.6 notebook.... which version can i install? i586 or i386 or an other?
[12:59] <jrib> Mob[ST]er: I haven't been following your conversation, but I've seen sudo mentioned a few times.  Running « gksudo gedit /path/to/file » or just « gksudo nautilus » and editing from there shouldn't be difficult.  The point though is that what you are doing should be an *uncommon* thing.  So it shouldn't be a burden to have to type sudo to edit these files
[12:59] <cooldduuudde> incarus, XP can install in fat32 as well
[12:59] <Incarus> McQueen	, i568
[12:59] <hmw> adam7 Mob[ST]er - and it is the reason, why we dont need antivirus software
[12:59] <McQueen> Incarus: thanks
[13:00] <adam7> jrib: earlier he said he is trying to edit httpd.conf, some mysql something-or-other and some other things
[13:00] <Incarus> cooldduuudde, k
[13:00] <Incarus> cooldduuudde, but he have to choose later, because windows should just recognize the partition
[13:01] <cooldduuudde> incarus, agreed
[13:01]  * int256 will be back in 5 mins
[13:01] <adam7> McQueen: there are only two versions afaik --- you need the x86 one
[13:02] <toddoon> does somebody use turboprint, how can i get a key?
[13:02] <bazhang> toddoon, not here
[13:02] <Incarus> McQueen, x64 and x86, you need x86
[13:02] <jrib> toddoon: buy it?
[13:03] <toddoon> why i hace choosen canon ?!!?
[13:03] <jrib> !print > toddoon
[13:03] <cooldduuudde> hmw, there was a google earth problem that i spoke of some time back
[13:03] <hmw> cooldduuudde yea, any news?
[13:03] <jrib> toddoon: my canon printer "just works" after I plug it in and turn on the power.  Check ubottu's links
[13:03] <toddoon> jrib: ok thanx
[13:04] <Atlantes> i just installed ubuntu 64bit, i have a few questions what the best option is to install flash and java, someone knows the answer ^^
[13:04] <tjoener> adam7: you are a hero
[13:04] <cooldduuudde> hmw,i ran it using sudo. it doesn't show any errors but quits as soon as opens
[13:04] <Incarus> Atlantes, yes
[13:04] <adam7> tjoener: you get it?
[13:04] <hmw> cooldduuudde as stated before, some apps dont like to be run as root. cant you run it normally??
[13:04] <jrib> Atlantes: install the "flashplugin-nonfree" package for flash.  Install whatever java you want from the repositories (there's sun and free versions)
[13:04] <jrib> !java > Atlantes
[13:04] <adam7> Atlantes: the best way to do it is to go to a site that needs flash or java and when firefox asks "do you want to install the plugin" click yes
[13:04] <tjoener> jep, I extracted the GOOD downloaded package, cp -av the entire thing over the fs root, then did an install to be nice with -i --root ... and now I can chroot
[13:05] <cooldduuudde> hmw, the problem was when i ran it normally i am getting errors
[13:05] <tjoener> so I think I'm going to edit my mirrors :)
[13:05] <adam7> tjoener: good idea.
[13:05] <hmw> cooldduuudde what ubuntu version do you have?
[13:05] <tjoener> adam7: I thank you for your help
[13:05] <cooldduuudde> 8.10 interpid
[13:06] <Atlantes> jrib, adam7: does that work for 64bit version of ubuntu?
[13:06] <Incarus> cooldduuudde, paste the errors
[13:06] <adam7> Atlantes: yep, I'm using it now
[13:06] <cooldduuudde> hmw Could not create directory:
[13:06] <cooldduuudde> /root/.googleearth/Cache
[13:06] <Incarus> Atlantes, you can install 64 bit plugins
[13:06] <BrixSat> hello friends
[13:06] <cooldduuudde> incarus Google Earth could not write to the current cache or myplaces file location. The values will be set as follows: My Places Path: "/home/akash/.googleearth"
[13:06] <cooldduuudde> Cache Path: "/home/akash/.googleearth/Cache"
[13:07] <hmw> cooldduuudde thats definetively wrong, a user has no business in /root. the german wiki says, that google earth would be broken, and one can get another version... stand by
[13:07] <Incarus> cooldduuudde, "sudo mkdir /root/.googleearth/Cache"
[13:07] <BrixSat> i have an old dlink de-220pct rev-d2 card and cant work with it on my ubuntu server 8.10
[13:07] <GIORGIO_Mx> ciao
[13:07] <cooldduuudde> lemme try it
[13:08] <cooldduuudde> incarus it says the file already exists
[13:08] <Incarus> BrixSat, search in the net
[13:08] <jrib> Atlantes: yes
[13:08] <Atlantes> adam7: flash works, thought that didn't worked with 64bit great :D
[13:08] <hmw> Incarus cooldduuudde - german wiki suggests: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.googleearth ~/.config/Google
[13:08] <BrixSat> Incarus i have done that
[13:08] <BrixSat> im living in google for 2 houres and nothinhg
[13:08] <Art4k> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[13:09] <jrib> Art4k: what are you compiling?
[13:09] <Incarus> BrixSat, most of us (everybody) cant help you
[13:09] <Art4k> hydra-gtk
[13:09] <hmw> cooldduuudde - maybe this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[13:09] <jrib> !compile > Art4k
[13:09] <BrixSat> Incarus i know but maybe some one had that problem also in the past ;)
[13:09] <adam7> BrixSat: if you give us some idea of what an old dlink de-220pct rev-d2 card is even supposed to do, there might be more help
[13:09] <cooldduuudde> hmw i am not so familiar wid most commands. i understand it will alter permissions. are you sure it will work?
[13:09] <cooldduuudde> ok
[13:10] <jrib> Art4k: you need the corresponding -dev package for gtk+ from the repositories (ie use synaptic or apt-get)
[13:10] <BrixSat> adam7 dlink de-220ptc is an ethernet card
[13:10] <hmw> cooldduuudde absolutely not. never used google earth and just got it from the german ubuntu wiki. try the link i gave you
[13:10] <BrixSat> with old bnc conector and rj45 connector
[13:10] <cooldduuudde> hmw okay thanks man
[13:10] <hmw> cooldduuudde google is your friend ;-)
[13:11] <adam7> BrixSat: have you ever gotten this thing to work in the past in ubuntu
[13:11] <adam7> ?
[13:11] <cooldduuudde> :)
[13:11] <kristian1> im in ex falso right now and i have browsed to ~/Music, and clicked the dir twice so that all songs come up on the right side of the screen. now i want to delete all the .mp3's id tags and retag them according to filename, because the filenames are correct. example: "Bruce Springsteen - 2009 - Working On A Dream - 01 - Outlaw Pete.mp3". so i want to id tag all my mp3 in the following format: <artist> - <year> - <album> - <track> - <title>,
[13:11] <BrixSat> adam7 nope it is virgin to me
[13:12] <adam7> BrixSat: it might be worth a small amount of money to get a new ethernet card -- that said, generally, the older it is, the better supported it is
[13:12] <Incarus> Art4k, why dont you install the hydra deb?
[13:12] <BrixSat> but the store is closed on sunday :p and i was wondering if it could do the job why a new one?
[13:12] <Art4k> i dont know
[13:12] <simon_> hi i use readeon driver and have freeze when using compiz or a game. hard freeze have to press power button. any help?
[13:12] <adam7> BrixSat: it should work if it is just a normal ethernet card
[13:13] <adam7> BrixSat: can you put your lspci in the pastebin?
[13:13] <BrixSat> Adam7 yes it is but it does not work, on /etc/network/interfaces i dont see nothing
[13:13] <cooldduuudde> simon_ you sure you have a gud grafix card?
[13:13] <BrixSat> lspci ok 1 minute
[13:13] <hareldvd> how to install google earth?
[13:13] <hmw> hareldvd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[13:13] <adam7> !googleearth | hareldvd
[13:15] <simon_> cooldduuudde: what?
[13:15] <cooldduuudde> simon_ you gotta have a gud grafix card 2 get all 3d frm compiz
[13:16] <simon_> cooldduuudde: I didnt have freezes before...
[13:16] <adam7> ColdFyre: but not having a good graphics card shouldn't hard lock the computer
[13:16] <Ethan> \jon
[13:17] <cooldduuudde> simon_ hard 2 say. may b you messed up some values in compiz
[13:17] <cooldduuudde> set it all back 2 default simon_
[13:17] <simon_> cooldduuudde: did not change anything in compiz
[13:17] <rfauth> i am trying to use sudo cpufreq-selector -f 1000 to set the cpu frequency. this is not working. i have tried setting governor to userspace first and then setting the freq but it still does not change it. man cpufreq-selector states using -f or --freq= but --freq is an unkown option. any ideas. i am not using the applet because i want this set at boot and options for setting the governor have been removed from the applet
[13:18] <adam7> rfauth: they haven't been removed from the applet, you just need to setuid some binary. also, make sure that the speed you are trying to set it to is a valid step
[13:19] <cooldduuudde> simon_ no idea
[13:19] <rfauth> adam7: you know what, maybe it is not 1000, dang it
[13:21] <rfauth> adam7: heh, 1000000 not 1000
[13:22] <hareldvd> Regarding google earth, those who answered me, Lost contacts due to IRC client crash. Can you refere me again?
[13:22] <dayo2> how do i extract a tar in dir_A to dir_B ?
[13:22] <rfauth> adam7: i did the conversion to mhz not gigahertz
[13:22] <kelvin> ??
[13:22] <erUSUL> dayo2: tar xf file.tar -C dir_B/ afaik
[13:22] <adam7> rfauth: oops :P
[13:22] <kelvin> 咩是
[13:22] <adam7> !cn
[13:23] <dayo2> erUSUL: awesome. thank u! :-)
[13:23] <hareldvd> dayo2: first make sure you know the name of the directory and if it was stored with full pathname. Use tar xvf for that.
[13:23] <hareldvd> dayo2: sorry tar tvf
[13:23] <dayo2> hareldvd: what do u mean?
[13:24] <merlot> I am coming from gentoo where I used "rc-update add ..." to schedule things to start at boot. Whats the Ubuntu equivalent please?
[13:24] <taylor04> im having problem with wireless internet on a dell 1501, have gone through the tutorials trying ndiswrapper etc etc and none of its working, when i try seing the status of my driver it says its disabled, on the top of my labby the wifi light is off and fn + f2 doesnt do anything
[13:24] <adam7> taylor04: what card?
[13:24] <hareldvd> dayo2: if the files were stored with full pathname that is all file names start with a / then no matter where you will be it will extract according to the full pathname.
[13:25] <taylor04> 4311
[13:25] <adam7> taylor04: broadcom?
[13:25] <giulio> ciao a tutti scusate, ho installato warrock con wine e quando lo apro da wine programi -> warrock mi fa clikkare "ok" nel launcher ma poi non si apre il gioco, sapreste aiutarmi?
[13:25] <taylor04> yep
[13:25] <adam7> !it | Guidoo
[13:25] <adam7> !it | giulio
[13:25] <adam7> Guidoo: sorry
[13:25] <dayo2> hareldvd: aah i see. thanks!
[13:26] <taylor04> broadcom 4311
[13:26] <adam7> taylor04: what revision?
[13:26] <taylor04> not sure
[13:26] <yinoneh> hi, cannot ssh -X "error in locking authority file". removing .Xauthority doesn't help, the permissions are - me only. any ideas ? Thanks in advance
[13:26] <adam7> taylor04: find out -- use lspci | grep Broadcom
[13:26] <taylor04> rev 1
[13:27] <taylor04>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[13:29] <KevDog> taylor04: whats the problem?
[13:30] <taylor04> im having problem with wireless internet on a dell 1501, have gone through the tutorials trying ndiswrapper etc etc and none of its working, when i try seing the status of my driver it says its disabled, on the top of my labby the wifi light is off and fn + f2 doesnt do anything
[13:30] <taylor04> im using bcm4311
[13:30] <KevDog> First -- dont use ndiswrapper
[13:30] <KevDog> Let me see what you can use--brb
[13:30] <taylor04> rgr
[13:32] <KevDog> taylor04: What about the b43 driver?
[13:32] <art4k_> How to install GF drivers
[13:33] <BrixSat> adam7 thanks but i wont be able to fix the problem now familiar problem to solve ;) thanks for helping
[13:33] <jrib> art4k_: GF?
[13:34] <taylor04> i installed b44 driver with ndiswrapper at first because i couldnt use the ndiswrapper wiki, so then that didnt work and uninstalled and used a supported one with ndiswrapper, but obviously thats a no go too
[13:34] <KevDog> taylor04: b44?   I appreciate your time and generosity..
[13:36] <diuneigh> thanks again!!
[13:36] <KevDog> taylor04: b43 should work if you downloaded the firware independently -- The firware is the actually binary code to power the code.  The reason you have to download the firmware independently is b/c its actually closed source
[13:37] <taylor04> so if i downloaded the firmware idepentdently how would i get it to work with b43
[13:37] <KevDog> taylor04: Correction: power the card
[13:37] <hareldvd> Please, those who helped me regardin installing Google earyh, come again. I lost your info due to IRC client crash.
[13:37] <jrib> hareldvd: just install it from the medibuntu repositories
[13:37] <taylor04> im new to this, where can i get the firmware? do i run it with b43?
[13:37] <jrib> !medibuntu | hareldvd
[13:38] <adam7> !googleearth | hareldvd
[13:38] <jrib> taylor04: have you tried System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[13:38] <KevDog> taylor04: Everything should just work
[13:38] <taylor04> yea jrib
[13:38] <jrib> taylor04: and was there a driver there?
[13:38] <KevDog> jrib -- Nice call on that one
[13:39] <tjoener> adam7: I changed the repositories from be to nl, and everything works fine now. I probably should file a report that they have a corrupt file on their server?
[13:39] <art4k_> In my "System->Administration->Hardware Drivers" no drivers to select...
[13:39] <taylor04> i just tried it, said system error, failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[13:40] <hareldvd> ubottu: Installed from your link (did before asking you) application crashes.
[13:40] <KevDog> taylor04: do you have synaptic running in the background?
[13:40] <taylor04> i dont know
[13:41] <jrib> hareldvd: ubottu is a bot, talk to the humans
[13:41] <KevDog> taylor04: That errror usually implies you were trying to update packages before and something crashed
[13:41] <dusty> Hey guys I have just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and when I Put a DVD in the drive it does not automatically recognise I put a disk in there and mount it, how do I get it to do that ?
[13:41] <taylor04> yea, i am downloading wine now, ive updated everything and rebooted though
[13:41] <jrib> dusty: is it a commercial dvd with css?
[13:41] <dusty> Yes I bought it from the shop.
[13:42] <Kvitrafn> A movie?
[13:42] <KevDog> taylor04: ?
[13:42] <dusty> I also bought a lovely new monitor so want to test it out
[13:42] <dusty> Yes a Film.
[13:42] <jrib> !dvd | dusty
[13:42] <taylor04> i did all system updates last night and rebooted
[13:42] <io_> New install of ubuntu , sound card not funtioning. request enhancement
[13:42] <hareldvd> the bot is wrong.
[13:42] <hareldvd> Who attends the bot??
[13:42] <dusty> Thank you.
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dusty It works better if you keep your comments and responses all on one line.  it makes it easier to read for all
[13:43] <Kvitrafn> hareldvd, the bot is wrong? how?
[13:43] <JoeLow> do most people use NetworkManager?
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> hareldvd We do, what is wrong with the bots response
[13:43] <JoeLow> its just that it seems to be stoping me setting interfaces manually from console?
[13:43] <mobilix> hi to all
[13:43] <dusty> Jack_Sparrow, ?
[13:43] <taylor04> well, if im getting this error message, whats the best way to fix the problem?
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[13:43] <KevDog> taylor04: Ok so no synaptic or aptitude?
[13:43] <KevDog> JoeLow: WICD
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[13:43] <taylor04> i honestly have no clue man, im new to ubuntu
[13:44] <KevDog> Do as ubottu stated :)
[13:44] <hareldvd> Kvitrafn: Nice to takl to human. Bot is not entirely wrong. only on updated machine as mine. with whatever packages I already have installed, google earth from the bot link crashes. Do you want the error message?
[13:44] <KevDog> Anyone tried the video stuff with pidgin?
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> taylor04 that is one of two problems,  another package manager is running, or you need to clear the lock manually after a crash or stopping an upgrade etc
[13:44] <jrib> hareldvd: ubottu gave you more than one link.  Be specific.
[13:45] <adam7> KevDog: pidgin has video stuff?
[13:45] <taylor04> would a reboot clear the lock?
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> taylor04 no
[13:45] <JoeLow> KevDog: what is WICD?
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[13:45] <KevDog> adam7: supposedly the mt build (which is like the cvs/svn build) maybe has the capabilities
[13:45] <KevDog> !WICD
[13:46] <hareldvd> jrib: Sorry, thought the first was someone else. The second gave me trouble:  http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[13:46] <KevDog> JoeLow: Just an alternative to NWM
[13:46] <jrib> hareldvd: so now be specific about the trouble
[13:46] <JoeLow> ah right,
[13:47] <KevDog> taylor04: run these commands in a terminal: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:47] <hareldvd> jrib: With pleasure. The error: ./googleearth-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8: symbolBIO_test_flags, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference
[13:47] <dusty> jrib, I have followed those articles but it still does not automatically recognise the disk ?
[13:47] <jrib> hareldvd: remove that.  Use the medibuntu package
[13:47] <JoeLow> should i be able to set my wireless netowkr using "iwconfig eth1 essid "Belkin54g"
[13:48] <taylor04> wait, i just tried the driver manager and its working now, thanks for all the help kevdog and jack sparrow, i appreciate it
[13:48] <KevDog> JoeLow: you are doing a manual configuration for your wireless card.  What do you want to do!
[13:48] <JoeLow> yes, when i do that nothing happens, as if NetworkManager was stoping me?
[13:49] <JoeLow> so i need to startx, then use NetworkManager to access my wireless
[13:49] <KevDog> adam7: Have you tried the mt build?
[13:49] <jrib> dusty: pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy libdvdcss2 »
[13:49] <adam7> KevDog: no, but I might have to
[13:49] <dusty> GUy's why won't it read this DVD??
[13:49] <dusty> ok
[13:49] <KevDog> JoeLow: Are your simply at a terminal right now?  I mean you don't need a gui or really any package if you configure your wireless card manually
[13:49] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, having an issue in evolution, why do all my rss feeds no longer have a window underneath so i can see the material in the feed???
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dusty all dvd's or just the one
[13:50] <JoeLow> yeah im at a terminal
[13:50] <KevDog> adam7: I take it you have compiled things befoe?
[13:50] <adam7> KevDog: a few times :)
[13:50] <dusty> Jack_Sparrow, all.
[13:50] <hareldvd> jrib: Only if I knew how to remove the package installed from  http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[13:50] <JoeLow> KevDog: i want to be able to configure my wireless without having to startx
[13:50] <dusty> jrib, http://rafb.net/p/3Cd44L68.html
[13:50] <JoeLow> which is the case at the moment
[13:50] <dusty> Jack_Sparrow, I've tried 4 and neither load.
[13:50] <KevDog> JoeLow: Does running iwlist scan show your network?
[13:50] <dusty> cdxs work.
[13:50] <JoeLow> yes
[13:50] <dusty> Oh and it is  DVD RW
[13:50] <KevDog> adam7: Ok, sorry, no mean to insult you.  Do you need a cookbook?
[13:50] <adam7> dusty: this is a film?
[13:51] <bazhang> dusty, a commercial dvd on dvd-rw?
[13:51] <jrib> hareldvd: read its documentation?
[13:51] <dusty> yes a movie (the escpaist)
[13:51] <adam7> KevDog: no insult taken :) sure
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dusty Stop hitting the enter key...  Complete sentences on one line  Please
[13:51] <dusty> commercial dvd
[13:51] <adam7> dusty: a commercial dvd that ships on a dvdrw?
[13:51] <KevDog> JoeLow: Do you see your netork?
[13:51] <JoeLow> KevDog: yes i do
[13:51] <netsnooper> hallo zusammen
[13:51] <hareldvd> jrib: All you get is a shell script executabe. Do I need to dig into it?
[13:52] <KevDog> JoeLow: Do you have any encryption on your wireless network?
[13:52] <JoeLow> it is unsecure, so should iwconfig eth1 essid "Belkin54G" ...work?
[13:52] <dusty> No its a real dvd that i bought from a shop!
[13:52] <JoeLow> KevDog: no
[13:52] <dbu_> hi, I am using svn 1.4.3, and I have checked out a repository, but when I run svn up it wants me to re-authenticate each time (btw: have run co as user www-data, and want to run up as www-data) how can i prevent re-authentication?
[13:52] <dusty> adam7, ^^
[13:52] <KevDog> JoeLow: Do you want dhcp or a static IP?
[13:52] <adam7> dusty: but you just said it's a dvdrw...
[13:52] <JoeLow> dhcp
[13:52] <netsnooper> gibt es auch einen deutschen chat? und wenn ja wie komme ich dahin?
[13:52] <jrib> hareldvd: google has documentation on its website
[13:52] <adam7> !de
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !de
[13:52] <KevDog> JoeLow: Ok: sudo iwconfig essid "Belkin54G"
[13:53] <KevDog> JoeLow: Then: sudo dhclient eth1
[13:53] <netsnooper> ic/join #ubunutu-de
[13:53] <hareldvd> jrib: Thanks will do.
[13:53] <jrib> hareldvd: you can try shell_script --help  too
[13:53] <JoeLow> KevDog: yes i know, thats what im doing, but it doesnt seem to be joining that network, i thought it was a NEtworkManager problm?
[13:53] <JoeLow> or stoping me setting mine myself
[13:53] <hareldvd> jrib: Thanks. Much better.
[13:53]  * KevDog thinks  is it me or am I the only one who doesnt know adam7?
[13:54] <bazhang> dusty, commercial dvd's never ship on rw, unless it is pirated.
[13:54] <KenBW2> whenever i tranfer music to my phone with ubuntu the atrists' and albums' names don't  show up as they should (for example Even, Evanesce, Evanescence). is this a problem with the transfer?
[13:54] <io_> any hel with my sound card available?
[13:54] <KevDog> JoeLow: What does lshw -C network show about the wireless chipset and driver?
[13:55] <adam7> KevDog: JoeLow: you may have to set the channel too
[13:55] <JoeLow> oh right
[13:55] <adam7> sudo iwconfig eth1 channel 3 or w/e the channel is
[13:55] <JoeLow> maybe i should just disable networkManager
[13:55] <KevDog> adam7: Never had to do that before, although I guess you could
[13:55] <KevDog> adam7: Never had to do that before -- except with aircrack
[13:56] <adam7> KevDog: on some cards you don't have to, on others you do
[13:56] <kernel> : )
[13:56] <adam7> some drivers set the channel from the essid automatically I think
[13:56] <KevDog> JoeLow: I dont think NWM isthe problem.  What error are you getting after the dhclient command?
[13:57] <KevDog> adam7: Do you know of any specific driver types for this -- I main a thread about this topic?
[13:57] <JoeLow> KevDog: nothing, no error, after i do "iwconfig eth1..." i get no error, but it has not joined that netowrk
[13:57] <adam7> KevDog: no, sorry. I don't even remember where I saw that at
[13:57] <KevDog> JoeLow: You do the iwconfig statement followed by dhclient
[13:58] <JoeLow> yep
[13:58] <KevDog> adam7: cool
[13:58] <KenBW2> whenever i tranfer music to my phone with ubuntu the atrists' and albums' names don't  show up as they should (for example Even, Evanesce, Evanescence). is this a problem with the transfer?
[13:58] <JoeLow> but if i do startx and use NetowrkManager, it works, so the driver and everything is fine
[13:58] <adam7> JoeLow: try this: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid my_essid channel 99; sudo dhclient eth1; <-- obviously, replace my_essid with the essid of your network and 99 with the channel number
[13:59]  * KevDog thinks  Is adam7=imdano?
[13:59] <wiijii> Hi guys, is anyone else having issues reverting back to ath5k after the latest update changed wireless to ath9k? If someone has succeeded, could you please help?
[13:59] <adam7> KevDog: I know him, yes. I'm not him though :P
[14:00] <KevDog> adam7: Ok that was just a wild guess!
[14:00] <KevDog> adam7: This pidgin is taking forever to compile
[14:00] <adam7> KevDog: do you have a link to it?
[14:00] <Lasivian> 6cI have compiz installed and want to "tile" windows automatically, but there is no tile option, ideas? thanks
[14:01] <laputa> hi,all
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[14:01] <laputa> Is there any one use jaunty and dpkg got error?
[14:01] <amikrop> How can you check if you have 32bit or 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[14:01] <adam7> laputa: try #ubuntu+1
[14:01] <adam7> amikrop: uname -a
[14:02] <KevDog> adam7: I do, but there was a hack just to let you know.  Not sure if it was the right thing to do, but I needed 3 packages for jaunty's repository on intrepid.  I temporarily added the repository to grab the 3 packages. Not sure if this will lead to breakage?
[14:02] <bazhang> laputa, #ubuntu+1 for that
[14:02] <KrispyQC> salut (tlm)
[14:02] <adam7> KevDog: never can tell for sure, but I've done that before without too much trouble
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> KevDog Yes that will lead you to breakage..
[14:02] <adam7> depends on the packages I think
[14:03] <laputa> Is there anyone got dpkg error?
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> KevDog adam7 Yes that will lead you to breakage.. Usually at the next upgrade if not now
[14:03] <jrib> laputa: you need to be more specific
[14:03] <bazhang> laputa, wrong channel for jaunty
[14:03] <KevDog> Jack_Sparrow: I know the risk, however I had no choice.  Ive also heard others doing this however -- it was my belief IT MAY lead to breakage.  Try at your own risk
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> laputa Ask in the right channel
[14:03] <mm2_sl> hi, anyone know to mount hfsplus iso image in ubuntu ?
[14:04] <mm2_sl> it gives this error
[14:04] <mm2_sl> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[14:04] <mm2_sl>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[14:04] <mm2_sl>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[14:04] <mm2_sl>        dmesg | tail  or so
[14:04] <FloodBot2> mm2_sl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:04] <KevDog> Jack_Sparrow: Even you then put those packages on hold?
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> KevDog it will lead to breakage, just not always instant
[14:04] <laputa> Jack_Sparrow:my dpkg has much error!
[14:04] <bazhang> laputa, this is not for jaunty.
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> laputa Go to the right channel as we have asked
[14:04] <KevDog> Jack_Sparrow: What's the workaround then?
[14:04] <Jampiter> Hi
[14:04] <laputa> Jack_Sparrow:and I can't startx.
[14:05] <Jampiter> How do I write a bootable .img image to a floppy?
[14:05] <adam7> Jampiter: dd if=image.img of=/dev/floppydrive
[14:05] <adam7> Jampiter: I think the drive is something like /dev/flx but I don't remember for sure
[14:05] <Jampiter> adam7: Thank you :)
[14:06] <KevDog> adam7: here is the link -- the last couple of pages talk about the mt portion.  I guess based on the above, try at your own risk:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975783
[14:06] <adam7> Jampiter: and use the dd command with care -- it can destroy your system if you point it at the wrong device
[14:06] <tomp> on hardy 8.04, i cant copy a 4.2g file with MC, then i saw i coudnt do it with Nautilus 2.22.2. i'm tryong cp right now. it reports the fiee is too big on 3 different partitions, all way bigger than 4.3. cp jusyt failed 'file too large'
[14:07] <Jampiter> adam7: ...ok, how do I find out my floppy drive for SURE? Mount?
[14:07] <adam7> Jampiter: if it is mounted, sure
[14:07] <Jampiter> adam7: I don't think it's mounted.. it's not showing up, anyway. How can I mount it?
[14:07] <KevDog> adam7: The packages I needed to grab from jaunty were the following: libgstfarsight0.10-0 libgstfarsight0.10-dev gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight
[14:08] <quibbler> tomp: what file system are the partitions?
[14:08] <Craige_> Hey guys. I need a hand with a few things. First one being that by Ubuntu 64bit is running hot (can get upwards of 80C)
[14:08] <Jampiter> !mount
[14:08] <Jampiter> ...
[14:09] <Craige_> It's rediculious.
[14:09] <adam7> Jampiter: you can also do ls /dev/f?0 which should show you
[14:10] <adam7> KevDog: actually my laptop is upgrading to jaunty as we speak so I might try it on there
[14:10] <Lasivian> I have compiz installed and want to "tile" windows automatically, but there is no tile option, ideas? thanks
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasivian I linked ccsm for you earlier, did you get and install that yet
[14:10] <Jampiter> adam7: It says "bash: /dev/fb0: Permission denied" IS fb0 right then?
[14:11] <KevDog> adam7: When I need to hack packages -- had to do this before -- sometimes I wish I was running Arch
[14:11] <Lasivian> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, I must have missed your message
[14:11] <tomp> quibbler i just used fdisk to see 'linux' 83   how can i chck the fs?
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[14:11] <KevDog> Jack_Sparrow: Any proposed workaround?
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> KevDog No idea what you were working on, but adding jaunty repos,, isnt an answer
[14:12] <adam7> Jampiter: fb is not correct
[14:12] <Jampiter> adam7: I tried dd with fb0 and it says it wrote it, but.. ah, It's not correct
[14:12] <adam7> Jampiter: It should be either fd0 or fl0
[14:12] <quibbler> tomp: how are they formated ext3 ntfs fat??
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Jampiter fd0 is normal
[14:12] <adam7> Jampiter: fb might be a framebuffer or something
[14:12] <KevDog> Jack_Sparrow: How do I get newer packages that are not in the repository because they are needed to compile from source?
[14:13] <Jampiter> adam7: It did make the right hand side of the sceen fuzzy for a second
[14:13] <Jampiter> Jack_Sparrow: I'll try that
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> KevDog Chasing dependencies is up to you when installing from soureces ourside the supported repos
[14:13] <tomp> quibbler: ext3 i th9nk, but how do i check? fisk gave lame 'linux' answer
[14:13] <adam7> Jampiter: that's probably what it was then
[14:13] <Craige_> Anybody?
[14:13] <Jampiter> adam7: Will that have harmed my computer?
[14:13] <taylor04> kevdog: i activated the b43 drivers and got the wifi light on my labtop on, rebooted, on the connection tab on the top right wireless stuff is all grayed out so i cant use it
[14:13] <adam7> Jampiter: shouldn't
[14:13] <KevDog> Jack_Sparrow: Hmmm, I guess that is an answer, but I'm sure others have had this problem before.  Any proposed strategies?
[14:14] <kristian1> hey! all my music is stored in ~/Music and is named according to this example: "Bruce Springsteen - 2009 - Working On A Dream - 01-14 - Outlaw Pete.mp3". the "-14" indicates how many tracks are on the specific album. the tagging of these mp3's are wrong, so i want to remove all mp3 tags/album art/all the additional information, and then retag the album according to the mp3 filename format: <artist> - <date> - <album> - <tracknumber> - <tit
[14:14] <adam7> KevDog: maybe apt-get source from a jaunty package and then recompile for intrepid?
[14:14] <KevDog> taylor04: I take it you are using the gui
[14:14] <quibbler> tomp: if they are ext3 then you should be able to copy also ntfs but not if they are fat (windows)
[14:14] <Jampiter> adam7: Ok, that's a relief. I'm trying it with fd0 and it says Permission denied. How do I grant it permission? Would sudo work?
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> KevDog stick with supported repos and be safe..  Learn to compile, run dual boot so you can have a system for testing and always have a backup