[00:00] <tinti> is cherokee package missing on raring?
[00:04] <onkle> hola
[00:09] <Dr_willis> !info cherokee
[00:09] <Dr_willis> !find cherokee
[00:11] <tones> easiest gui disk image software for ubuntu? not dd, clonezilla?
[00:12] <dark_djinn> i'm trying to deal with getting an ssl cert for ubuntu
[00:12] <dark_djinn> what is the default lamp ssl method on ubuntu?
[00:13] <xirre> How do you check the current CPU Usage that a process is using by using its PID? It needs to be outputted for use by a third party program. (Like how I would get the PID by doing echo "$!" > '/home/directory/file.txt' after a command is initially ran.) -- I was told earlier to use ps -p <pid> -o %cpu  but i'd like to store this information momentarily so a third party can retrieve it and delete it after it has received it.
[00:14] <tones> !clonezilla
[00:15] <thefunc5> tones: i just use eusus disk copy, super easy and uber effective
[00:15] <thefunc5> runs off a live cd and clones both linux and windows installations without issue
[00:15] <Gabboz> tones, redobackup.org is worth looking at too
[00:16] <tones> will look at both thanks
[00:16] <thefunc5> never heard of that one, but i do like how itll backup to network shares, that looks REALLY nice
[00:16] <Gabboz> thefunc5, how does easeus handle drives with different sizes(upon restore)?
[00:16] <killmaker> hi
[00:16] <Gabboz> thefunc5, redo works quite well.
[00:17] <thefunc5> gabboz, it doesnt seem to care lol
[00:17] <echoe> God I just realized that ll is an alias of ls
[00:17] <echoe> ... learning via experience sucks sometimes.
[00:17] <Gabboz> thefunc5, good. ive found free recovery apps can get grouchy with that..good to see it become a thing of the past
[00:17] <killmaker> i have a peoblem
[00:17] <Dr_willis> echoe,  'alias' command may show more. ;)
[00:17] <thefunc5> i havent tried it other than one time, mapped a 300gb disk to a 128gb ssd and it worked just fine, paritioned it fine and to the brim
[00:17] <echoe> Dr willis I know. :p it does ls -l
[00:17] <thefunc5> but note, i have only done that ONCE, havent tried it other than that on etime
[00:18] <killmaker> how do i bypass secure boot
[00:18] <echoe> I was spoofing uptime and learned that bit already. Just blah.
[00:18] <thefunc5> killmaker secure boot on windows 8?
[00:18] <Dr_willis> disable it in the bios i belive killmaker
[00:18] <comodo_dragon> i haev Ubuntu 6.10 installed, but I am having trouble installing LibreOffice.
[00:18] <killmaker> yes
[00:18] <Dr_willis> comodo_dragon,  6.10? that was a typo right?
[00:18] <comodo_dragon> no
[00:18] <comodo_dragon> version 6.10
[00:18] <killmaker> i did disabled it but ubuntu won't load
[00:19] <thefunc5> ...by the gods how long has that box been up and running comodo?
[00:19] <Dr_willis> that is over 6 yrs old.. time to upgrade.
[00:19] <comodo_dragon> 6years or so
[00:19] <Dr_willis> !eol or read about using EOL releases
[00:19] <Dr_willis> !eol
[00:19] <Dr_willis> !6.10
[00:19] <Dr_willis> its been eol for 5 yrs. ;)
[00:20] <comodo_dragon> heh,ok
[00:20] <killmaker> tried to disable it but ubuntu still won't boot
[00:21] <killmaker> any idea what to do with eufi config
[00:22] <thefunc5> killmaker, when you googled about your computer model and ubuntu install what was the consensus?
[00:30] <AutoMatriX> hi folks,
[00:30]  * AutoMatriX is back, after a bit less than a year
[00:32] <PyGuy> Hey guys. Can someone help me get my Sound Blaster ZX working in 12.04.2?
[00:32] <Dako300> Anything more specific?
[00:32] <AutoMatriX> PyGuy, might be a bit more precise in your question,
[00:33] <Legits> I need help with a broken initramfs.
[00:33] <PyGuy> Well, firstly, can someone tell me how to get my 12.04.2 install to kernel 3.5 in the supported way?
[00:33] <strugz> PyGuy type dmesg
[00:34] <Dako300> You should be able to upgrade it and it will upgrade the kernel
[00:34] <Dr_willis> PyGuy,  i think someone mentioned enabling the backports repo earlier
[00:34] <Dr_willis> !backports
[00:34] <strugz> PyGuy apt-get upgrade
[00:34] <PyGuy> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." and I'm still on 3.2.x
[00:34] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/257617/how-can-i-upgrade-the-ubuntu-12-04-2-kernel-to-3-5-0-23
[00:35] <Dr_willis> first google hit for '12.04 kernel 3.5'
[00:35] <Dako300> That may be because you are running a LTS
[00:35] <PyGuy> Yeah I'm running LTS.
[00:35] <Dako300> pretty much, you have no upgrades ubtill 12.04.3
[00:35] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[00:35] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-quantal
[00:36] <PyGuy> Will I still be able to get support if I do that?
[00:36] <Dr_willis> Its in the standard repos.. so yes
[00:36] <Rubbissh> so, how do i download ubuntu on my windows 8 with a usb stick?
[00:36] <Dr_willis>  12 down vote accepted
[00:36] <Dr_willis>
[00:36] <Dr_willis> New deployments of 12.04.2 will be installed with an updated kernel and a new X windows stack.
[00:36] <Dr_willis> oops.. pasted to much. ;)
[00:37] <Dr_willis> Rubbissh,  use some of the tools at the pendrivelinux web site perhaps?
[00:37] <strugz> Rubbissh apt-get install usb-creator-kde
[00:37] <Dako300> I need help with my sound, It works perfectly fine but the sound is also coming out of the PC speaker. I checked and I DO NOT have pcspkr as a module (I am running the kernel that came with Ubuntu,3.8)
[00:38] <Dr_willis> the 'pcspkr' module is for the old 'beeper
[00:38] <Dr_willis>  type speaker as far as i know. its possible the pc has some other sort of built in sound as well thats not using that module
[00:38] <rmobenchain> just ran bad blocks via terminal and received the following message: badblocks: Unknown code ext2 70 adding to in-memory bad block list.  what does this mean?
[00:38] <Dako300> The scary thing is, is that in the BIOS I disabled the PC speaker.
[00:39] <Dako300> Your hard drive is going bad
[00:39] <Dr_willis> that might be just for the old type beeper-type-speaker.
[00:39] <zykotick9> Dako300: i'd try "lsmod | grep snd_" is anything listed that could be the pc speaker related?
[00:40] <Dako300> If it helps, I am using a crap computer from 2003
[00:40] <rmobenchain> dako300: was your hard drive going bad response in regards to my question?
[00:40] <Dako300> The closest thing is snd_pcm
[00:40] <PyGuy_> Alrighty, so my Sound Blaster ZX is detected, but not outputting any sound
[00:40] <Dako300> rmobenchain: yes
[00:41] <rmobenchain> Dako300: ok.  thanks.  what I've been suspecting as well.
[00:41] <zykotick9> Dako300: i don't think snd_pcm is related.  well, good luck (i seem to remember a snd_SMOTHING that was pc speaker related, but don't see it on my system either...)
[00:43] <PyGuy_> Anyone have any ideas?
[00:43] <Dako300> The modules listed are, snd_ac97_codec,snd_intel8x0,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device (I just copied that from the dependencies of snd)
[00:43] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, I'm setting up an local ubuntu-mirror . Is there any way to see (follow) whcih files are currently being downloaded ?APT-Mirror does not give much feedback :(
[00:43] <ubuntu__> guys, I-m gonna install ubuntu. I didn-t make a swap because I currently have 8gb of ram. also, if anything I will be usin zram. however, what do you think_
[00:44] <Gabboz> ubuntu__, you can always make a swap file if you want.
[00:44] <ubuntu__> yeah, I don-t want to, but I wanna know if it might decrease my performance as I have 8gb of ram
[00:44] <Dako300> No, not unless you are playing games
[00:44] <Gabboz> ubuntu__, if you tune swappiness it wont matter
[00:45] <Gabboz> ubuntu__, beware if you surpass 8Gb of needed ram you crash..period.
[00:45] <ubuntu__> Gabboz, Dako300I have integrated card so, I rarely and barely play. what is that swappiness thing_
[00:45] <zykotick9> Dako300: i wouldn't think any of those are the cause?  but obviously the output is coming from somewhere (i just don't know where).  in "alsamixer" does F6 have some other card with a pc speaker you can mute/turn down perhaps?
[00:45] <Dr_willis> safest thing to do would be make a 2gb or so swap file.
[00:46] <Gabboz> ubuntu__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness
[00:46] <thpe> is there a way to make the XF86AudioRaiseVolume key raise the volume in pulseaudio?
[00:46] <ubuntu__> btw, I-ve used 13.04 and found the auto/hide behaviour to be buggy, have someelse experience problems making it appear_
[00:47] <Dako300> I need help with my sound, It works perfectly fine but the sound is also coming out of the PC speaker. I checked and I DO NOT have pcspkr as a module (I am running the kernel that came with Ubuntu,3.8)
[00:47] <PyGuy_> Hey guys. Can someone help me getting my Sound Blaster ZX working? It's detected but no sound is coming out of my headphones.
[00:47] <Dako300> PyGuy_, do you have the modules for it?
[00:48] <PyGuy_> I'm not sure, Dako300
[00:48] <Dako300> PyGuy_, how do you know its "detected"
[00:48] <PyGuy_> How might I get them?
[00:49] <PyGuy_> Well, in pavucontrol the sound bar pulses along with the sound as I play a youtube video, but nothing comes out of the headphones
[00:49] <Dako300> PyGuy_, if you didnt do anything with the kernel, they should be there (and without it, the sould card couldnt be recognized)
[00:49] <Dr_willis> unless its just sending output to the wrong jack.
[00:49] <Dr_willis> or wrong soundcard
[00:50] <PyGuy_> Good point
[00:50] <spoon> hi there, does anyone have the commands or download link to get broadcom wifi drivers?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> !broadcom | spoon
[00:50] <PyGuy_> So what do I do?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> try the other jacks?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> ive also had sound try to go out my HDMI when i neede it to go out the analog ports
[00:51] <PyGuy_> Hmmm there's only one headphone jack on the card
[00:52] <Dr_willis> most jacks are configurable.. try the other ones..
[00:52] <Ari-Yang> Dr_willis, you're having problems with sound coming out through the tv via hdmi?
[00:52] <Dako300> PyGuy_, Where is the bar thats for the sound exactly.
[00:52] <Dr_willis> Ari-Yang,  i was - untill i switched to the 3.9 kernel. :)
[00:52] <PyGuy_> Dako300: In pavucontrol, on the Output devices tab
[00:53] <Ari-Yang> Dr_willis, ah, was going to ask if you're on radeon, and if you were you might have had to add something to grub
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Ari-Yang,  theres some hdmi audio bug in 13.04 with some of the kernels - seems to affect a lot of differnt  chipsets. a fix is supposed to be in the works or out.. but i got sick of waiting and  tried the 3.9 kernel that works ;)
[00:54] <Ari-Yang> heh, nice
[00:54] <Dr_willis> but since im using that.. i dont know if the fix has been released
[00:55] <davidbuhau> need a little help with sharing and mounting an installed fat32 drive
[00:57] <Dr_willis> !windows
[00:57] <Dr_willis> which factoid is it. ;)
[00:57] <Dr_willis> !vfat
[00:57] <Dako300> PyGuy_: Try running lsmod | grep snd_ and does anything like emu10k pop up?
[00:57] <Dako300> I also have a SB card
[00:58] <davidbuhau> so i have no idea what i have done differently this time.  i have a small server running ubuntu 12.04.  last time i was able to easily tell nautilus to auto mount the drive on startup... for whatever reason i cannot get it to auto mount this time
[00:58] <PyGuy_> Dako300: I'm not seeing anything that says emu10k
[00:58] <Dr_willis> davidbuhau,  auto mount at BOOT time.. you make a fstab entry
[00:58] <Dr_willis> davidbuhau,  otherwise nautilus can auto mount it on first access via the 'gvfs' features of nautilus
[00:58] <Dako300> PyGuy_: What does pop up?
[00:59] <Dr_willis> davidbuhau,  if you want to make it a windows share. you will want a fstab entry for it
[00:59] <davidbuhau> i also was very easily able to share the drive just using the share menu in the properties, allowing others to read/write on the drive by simply saying essentially "yes, change the permissions for me".  neither of these things are working for me this time... so frustrating
[00:59] <Dr_willis> davidbuhau,  the 'ntfs-config' tool can make a entry for it.
[00:59] <PyGuy_> Dako300: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5708649/
[01:00] <davidbuhau> i don't mind having to remote in to mount the drive on restart i guess, but the permissions thing is really getting under my skin
[01:00] <Dako300> PyGuy_:I am stumped
[01:01] <Gabboz> davidbuhau, add that drive to your fstab
[01:01] <PyGuy_> Dako300: Ah, ok. Thanks anyway.
[01:02] <davidbuhau> can i use gconf-editor to do that?
[01:02] <PyGuy_> Can anyone else help me with getting my Sound Blaster ZX to work in 12.04.2 64-bit?
[01:03] <Gabboz> davidbuhau, no, thats not the tool
[01:03] <dark_djinn> ok, now needing help with getting mail
[01:03] <davidbuhau> okay, i've used that before for auto-mount... it's been ages since i've fiddled around with any of the configurations, i just use ubuntu to get things done mostly
[01:03] <dark_djinn> it seems to receive the mail to my vps, but doesn't appear to forward it to the user
[01:03] <Dr_willis> davidbuhau,  to share a vfat via samba - you will need to mount it with the right options.
[01:04] <Gabboz> davidbuhau, if you must go gui way, check out http://pysdm.sourceforge.net/
[01:04] <spoon> how can I find which wireless card/adapter is in my laptop to get the correct drivers? lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 does not return anything.
[01:04] <AutoMatriX> trying it in another way : can someone tell me how to monitor the name of the actually incoming files ?
[01:04] <Dr_willis> ntfs-config can auto-add a fstab line for the vfat...
[01:05] <davidbuhau> okay psydm looks easy enough to figure out...
[01:06] <davidbuhau> i will start with that and do a bit more research before i come back in here and bug you guys! :)
[01:06] <Dr_willis> id suggest backing up your /etc/fstab BEFOR using that tool davidbuhau
[01:06] <PyGuy_> Hey guys. Can someone help me getting my Sound Blaster ZX working? It's detected but no sound is coming out of my headphones.
[01:06] <davidbuhau> good suggestion
[01:06] <Dr_willis> learning the basics of fstab is also a good idea.
[01:14] <fl_rider> I am looking for some assistance compiling darkice
[01:15] <Dr_willis> !info darkice
[01:15] <Dr_willis> the apt-get build-deps packagename     can help by pulling in all needed deps to compile the source.
[01:15] <fl_rider> by default mp3 support is disabled
[01:16] <Dr_willis> then theres that other tool that compiles source and builds a deb.
[01:17] <fl_rider> I have downloaded the source and have all the other dependencies installed
[01:17] <StarOnD> I want to install grub2 on a new external HDD. and then install a few different kind of linux distros. any tips?
[01:17] <Legits> Still having an issue with initramfs. I just installed Kubuntu over LUKS on LVM on GPT. initramfs has no idea how to boot things up.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> StarOnD,  the other disrtos should install grub to the hdd as part of their install.
[01:18] <earc> hello, i just installed 13.04 for the first time and i cant install additional drivers
[01:18] <Legits> Additional drives for what?
[01:19] <Legits> *drivers
[01:19] <Chat4661> Hello
[01:19] <earc> Legits, my NVIDIA video card
[01:20] <Legits> It doesn't work to just apt-get install nvidia-current?
[01:20] <earc> Legits, GeForce 660Ti
[01:21] <earc> Legits, I didnt know about that, let me try. Thanks!
[01:21] <StarOnD> dr_willis will I be tied down to the first distro that I install ? what if I want to gt rid of the distro in case  I dont find it easy to use?
[01:23] <PyGuy_> Hey guys. Can someone help me getting my Sound Blaster ZX working? It's detected but no sound is coming out of my headphones.
[01:28] <WeThePeople> pyguy_, what distro and do you dual boot?
[01:28] <PyGuy_> WeThePeople: 12.04.2 64-bit and no I don't dual boot
[01:28] <earc> Legits, after i do that, that's it? how do i check if im using the drivers?
[01:28] <WeThePeople> pyguy_, laptop or desktop
[01:29] <PyGuy_> desktop
[01:29] <betrayd> StarOn you can pick your next liveCD sitro, to install it will have similar GPARTED tools to overwite
[01:29] <Dr_willis> PyGuy_,  an interesting test would be to see if a 13.04 live cd correctly handles the card. You  have disabled any onboard sound cards in the bios?
[01:30] <PyGuy_> Dr_willis: I'll try that! But first, how do I disable sound cards in the bios?
[01:30] <Dr_willis> look in your bios se4ttings..  theres to much varity in them for me to know where
[01:32] <erpo> usb-creator-gtk is segfaulting each time I try to create a bootable USB drive for Ubuntu 13.04 AMD64. Any suggestions?
[01:33] <Dr_willis> erpo,  you can use 'dd' to image the iso file straight to the usb. or try some of the other tools at the pendrivelinux site
[01:33] <Dr_willis> weird that its segfaulting
[01:33] <spoon> how do i make a rule for something to be the target of a make command?
[01:34] <erpo> Dr_willis: Are you serious? You can just dd a bootable ISO to a USB mass storage device that doesn't emulate an optical drive in hardware, and the PC will just boot from it?
[01:34] <zykotick9> erpo: if you have a linux host, just cat or dd the iso to the USB drive (eg, sdb) - NOT sdb1 which is a partition.  it wipes everything that's on that usb, so be SURE you have the right drive!
[01:34] <erpo> zykotick9: That's insane. I almost can't believe it, but I'll give it a try.
[01:34] <cjbirk> i am the plunderer
[01:34] <cjbirk> the great icelandic snow king
[01:34] <cjbirk> and i use ubuntu.
[01:34] <Dr_willis> erpo,  dding the iso stright to usb has been a fetaure of ubuntu for some time now.. its been a feature of a great many other linux disrtos for years
[01:35] <spoon> why is this returning an error root@QuiSu:/home/alexandre# make file:///home/alexandre/aer/rtl8192ce_linux_2.6.0003.0628.2010/Makefile
[01:35] <Dr_willis> erpo,  the trick is the ISO has to be 'made' to support that feature
[01:35] <zykotick9> erpo: it only works with "hybrid" ISOs.
[01:35] <spoon> it says make: *** No rule to make target `file:///home/alexandre/aer/rtl8192ce_linux_2.6.0003.0628.2010/Makefile'.  Stop.
[01:35] <Dr_willis> erpo,  earlier ubuntu isos did not suppport hybrid.
[01:35] <Dr_willis> about 11.10 and earlier I think....
[01:35] <erpo> Dr_willis: That's less nuts.
[01:36] <Dr_willis> erpo,  or you can put grub2 on the usb.. and boot ISO files.. ;) thats even a niftier trick
[01:36] <AutoMatriX> hello again, can someone tell me ho to monitor the NAMES of the incoming files ? I tried ifstat but that only gives me the speed :(
[01:36] <Dr_willis> AutoMatriX,  incomming from what?
[01:36] <spoon> anyone help out? i cant get a make command to run
[01:37] <AutoMatriX> Dr_willis, I'm runing apt-mirror for the moment
[01:37] <betrayd> spoon did you run ./configure?
[01:38] <AutoMatriX> Dr_willis, is that enough info for you ?
[01:38] <betrayd> they usually ahve a readme
[01:38] <Dr_willis> AutoMatriX,  so you want to monitor what apt-mirror is downloading?
[01:38] <Basil1x> OK... 13.04 shows error: 'Location Already Mounted' on DVD insertion.  As there is obviously no DVD already inserted, is there any way to make the error stop?  Even with the error, the drive works normally with the DVD.
[01:38] <AutoMatriX> Dr_willis, absolutely
[01:38] <Dr_willis> perhaps apt-mirror has some verbose logging features.. ive never used it.
[01:38] <spoon> betrayd: readme says to go to the directory, which i'm sudo'ed into in terminal and run the command make which is returning an error
[01:39] <erpo> AutoMatriX: Why do you want to monitor what apt-mirror is downloading?
[01:39] <spoon> ./configure returns an error as well betrayd
[01:40] <betrayd> the sudo might be throwing it off, just a hunch
[01:40] <AutoMatriX> Dr_willis, cannot find any in the man-pages
[01:40] <spoon> didn't think of that, the readme says to sudo
[01:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. odd issue here. while creating a symlink for ruby (it has stupidly placed .h files, lol) the resultant link is always broken, am I doing something wrong here?
[01:40] <AutoMatriX> erpo, it's les annoying when you see what's happening
[01:40] <betrayd> spoon dont run make without configure running finishing cleanly
[01:41] <erpo> AutoMatriX: So, if there were some easy way to monitor the progress of the download, that is all you would be looking for.
[01:41] <spoon> betrayd: so i should get into the directory, non sudo, run configure, then see if that works before make
[01:41] <AutoMatriX> erpo, if you can tell me what to install to see which files are iincoming, that would be very nice of you
[01:42] <spoon> there is no configure found in the directory
[01:42] <erpo> AutoMatriX: What is the directory apt-mirror is downloading to?
[01:43] <ulkesh> spoon, what is it you're trying to build?  (do you have a URL to the download of the package?)
[01:43] <AutoMatriX> erpo, good question, I'm going to check that out ...;
[01:43] <spoon> ulkesh: it's a wifi driver. link here: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[01:44] <AutoMatriX> erpo it's going into the spoolerdirectory of /var/www/.... etc
[01:44] <erpo> AutoMatriX: Run this command: grep base_path /etc/apt/mirror.list
[01:44] <PyGuy> Yeah, neither disabling the onboard sound or trying 13.04 solved the issue
[01:45] <ulkesh> spoon, which driver and which kernel?
[01:45] <spoon> More specifically looking use the RTL8188CE one
[01:45] <AutoMatriX> erpo, /var/spool/apt-mirror
[01:45] <erpo> AutoMatriX: Try this command:   watch du -sh /var/spool/apt-mirror
[01:46] <ulkesh> spoon, which kernel target?  2.6.24 and later?
[01:46] <spoon> ulkesh: yes, I think that's right since I'm using a fresh ubuntu install
[01:46] <erpo> AutoMatriX: It may take a while to get started, but it will tell you how many GB have been downloaded so far. A complete download is around 50GB.
[01:46] <PyGuy> Can someone help me get my Sound Blaster ZX working on Ubuntu 12.04.2 64-bit?
[01:46] <ulkesh> spoon, ok, i'll give it a go..you may simply be missing the linux-headers package or something, i'll see what it says on my system
[01:47] <spoon> okay, thank you ulkesh
[01:47] <AutoMatriX> erpo, since I  mirror both architectures, MAD64 and the 32 bit, I'm around 100 Gigs, without the sources
[01:48] <erpo> AutoMatriX: I wouldn't know. Is that command giving you a meaningful progress indicator?
[01:48] <AutoMatriX> erpo, 97G     /var/spool/apt-mirror but no filenames :(
[01:49] <erpo> AutoMatriX: Well, that's about as good as I know how to get for a progress indicator.
[01:51] <AutoMatriX> erpo, thanks but that does not help me ...is ubuntu not keeping a *.logfile of the file I/O ?
[01:51] <ulkesh> spoon, yeah that driver is fubar...it won't build for me either even having what i expect are all the prereqs
[01:52] <spoon> damn. i guess ill try to find another driver tomorrow.
[01:52] <ulkesh> spoon, this is the reason developers should produce a configure script...it would guarantee all the prereqs exist
[01:52] <ulkesh> spoon, sorry man :(
[01:52] <spoon> it's alright, thanks for working with me
[01:53] <PyGuy> Can someone help me get my Sound Blaster ZX working on Ubuntu 12.04.2 64-bit?
[01:53] <ulkesh> spoon, np, sorry i wasn't any help, good luck!
[01:53] <BourneAgainShell> Hey everyone, I'm trying to add some info to the community help wiki for a workaround I found to a driver issue, but I can't seem to load the file (says I don't have permission to) - How can I send the info to the team working on the help pages? The link for the specific page I want to edit is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise
[01:54] <WeThePeople> pyguy_, did you check the additional drivers gui
[01:54] <WeThePeople> pyguy, ^^^
[01:54] <PyGuy> WeThePeople: Yeah I did. There's nothing there.  Lemme give that a go.
[01:56] <WeThePeople> pyguy, do you have gnome3 installed or are you using unity?
[01:57] <migadoo> What requires restart
[01:57] <betrayd> spoon go back to that directory bec, you said you ran ./configure
[01:57] <WeThePeople> migadoo, sudo shutdown -r now
[01:57] <WeThePeople> that will restart your machine
[01:58] <WeThePeople> migadoo, can yo explain a little better?
[01:58] <migadoo> No
[01:59] <WeThePeople> tuff question
[02:00] <Gabboz_AFK> migadoo, kernel updates require reboots
[02:03] <donavan01> does anyone why my usb drive is showing double the capacity that it should have
[02:09] <Legits> Anyone have any idea on my broken initramfs?
[02:10] <WeThePeople> legits, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs
[02:10] <PyGuy> Hey guys. Can someone help me get my Sound Blaster ZX card working in 12.04.2 64-bit?
[02:11] <PyGuy> WeThePeople: Turning the computer off and on didn't help :c
[02:11] <WeThePeople> pyguy, are you using unity or gnome
[02:11] <PyGuy> Unity
[02:11] <WeThePeople> might i suggest installing gnome
[02:11] <WeThePeople> gnome3
[02:12] <PyGuy> Will a GNOME3 based distro work, such as Cinnamon?
[02:12] <Gabboz_AFK> PyGuy, try it live first
[02:14] <WeThePeople> pyguy, have you checked alsa
[02:14] <WeThePeople> and pulseaudio settings
[02:15] <PyGuy> WeThePeople: Yeah, I've checked alsamixer and pavucontrol. Pavucontrol detects sound, but nothing comes out of my headphones
[02:15] <ransom> howdy
[02:15] <Legits> WeThePeople, I'm not sure that helps. I think initramfs is missing a hook (or has them in the wrong order). Is this something I can configure manually? update-initramfs doesn't get me anywhere.
[02:16] <AutoMatriX> erpo, I found that cat /var/spool/apt-mirror/var/archive-log.0 | grep dsc is giving me the latest sourcefiles ... that's already something
[02:17] <WeThePeople> legits, idk
[02:18] <WeThePeople> pyguy, something might be conflicting between alsa and pulseaudio
[02:18] <Dlt_mark^> Hi all, I would like to know how to fix when i use 'tcpdump -i eth0 vlan 6' there is no packet displayed on the screen but when I use My Apple mac it work great?
[02:19] <PyGuy> WeThePeople: That would make sense. Should I do something like purge pulseaudio?
[02:19] <spoon> betrayd: yeah, ./configure gives an error though. emailed realtek,hopefully they'll help
[02:21] <WeThePeople> pyguy, http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/
[02:21] <betrayd> spoon have you pastebinned the error somewhere
[02:21] <codepython777> when one uses useradd to create a new user, what is the default password?
[02:22] <spoon> betrayd: it's just a make error, make: Nothing to be done for `/home/alexandre/r/rtl8192ce_linux_2.6.0006.0321.2011/Makefile'.
[02:23] <jrib> codepython777: what makes you think there is one ;)  Hint: you probably want to use "adduser" and not "useradd"
[02:23] <spoon> betrayd: here's the longform pastebin http://pastebin.com/FnkjzkkV
[02:26] <PyGuy> WeThePeople: That didn't help :/
[02:27] <blackrock> Dash says: "sorry, there is nothing that matches your search"
[02:27] <WeThePeople> pyguy, can you get any sound from the sound card
[02:27] <blackrock> It should find a result /12.04
[02:28] <PyGuy> WeThePeople: Can't hear a thing
[02:28] <Gabboz_AFK> PyGuy, you certain the card works?  have you tried other speakers/earbuds to rule that out?
[02:29] <blackrock> But it shows purchasable music results, though
[02:30] <PyGuy> Gabboz_AFK: Yeah, the sound card works. I have tried other headphones and speakers
[02:36] <santoshbit2007__> hi All
[02:36] <santoshbit2007__> any   Mouse Event Experts available  here ??
[02:36] <santoshbit2007__> any   Mouse Event Experts available  here ??
[02:45] <Gabboz_AFK> santoshbit2007, just type out your question. it's easier that way for the rest of us
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[02:50] <codepython777> when one uses useradd to create a new user, what is the default password?
[02:51] <ObrienDave> myth: try gentoo-ru
[02:51] <ObrienDave> myth: /join #gentoo-ru
[02:51] <Gabboz_AFK> codepython777, if you are on a desktop version it wont matter.. you cant login until a password is set
[02:51] <Gabboz_AFK> other than that, ive never tested out any further
[02:52] <codepython777> Gabboz_AFK: I'm on a server, and i see a script generating accounts without setting passwords. Seems like a security problem to me. Unless I'm mistaken
[02:53] <jrib> codepython777: same answer as before...
[02:53] <jrib> codepython777: what do you want to accomplish?
[02:53] <codepython777> jrib: Just want to know if its a security vulnerability to create accounts without setting the password using useradd?
[02:54] <jrib> codepython777: why would it be?
[02:54] <codepython777> Or does it create a secure random password
[02:54]  * AutoMatriX is going to leave soon, thanks for the help, guys ;)
[02:54] <jrib> codepython777: try logging in and see
[02:54] <Gabboz_AFK> codepython777, can you make an acct, logout and see if blank gets you in?
[02:54] <codepython777> It does not
[02:54] <Gabboz_AFK> also, can you read the source of this script?
[02:54] <codepython777> that much i tried
[02:55] <Gabboz_AFK> ok
[02:55] <jrib> codepython777: so, do you have any more questions?
[02:55] <betrayd> spoon you still around?
[02:55] <codepython777> Gabboz_AFK:  Here is the python script line: "sudo /usr/sbin/useradd %s -m -s /bin/bash -d %s/%s" % (newuser, HOME, newuser)
[02:56] <jrib> codepython777: what are you actually trying to accomplish?  What is your end-goal?
[02:57] <Gabboz> jrib, my guess is he encountered this and wants to grasp if its a sec hole.
[02:57] <codepython777> Gabboz: Exactly
[02:58] <jrib> codepython777: you can't login until you set a password
[02:58] <codepython777> thats good enough, thanks.
[02:58] <Gabboz> thats what i thought. :)
[02:58] <jrib> codepython777: I'd still urge you to share what led you to this question because there might be a better way to do whatever it is you are trying to do
[03:00] <codepython777> jrib: On one of our servers, we create users automatically based on who registers on a webserver. I was just wondering if the adduser had a security problem.
[03:01] <jrib> codepython777: ok, well if you care for details, check the /etc/shadown line for the user and then read "man shadow" about what a ! means
[03:03] <codepython777> jrib: Thanks. How do i set "!" for a given user?
[03:03] <jrib> codepython777: when lock an account (passwd -l), that should happen
[03:03] <jrib> codepython777: (sort of; see passwd's man page)
[03:04] <SARC> Is there a way to get the package name from a metapackage from the command line?  For example, to find out that "mysql-server-5.5" is the package pointed to by "mysql-server"?
[03:04] <codepython777> jrib: I tried "passwd -l username" -- but the /etc/shadow line does not change?
[03:04] <jrib> SARC: you want to look for packages that PROVIDE a certain package?
[03:04] <jrib> codepython777: it should add a ! to the front
[03:04] <jrib> codepython777: (of the password hash)
[03:05] <codepython777> it did
[03:05] <codepython777> didnt notice it with the large hash.
[03:05] <ObrienDave> SARC: or do you want to know the PARENT package name?
[03:08] <SARC> jrib: Well here's what I am trying to do.  I have a script that does an unattended install of mysql.  I store the root password, and use apt to install.  Instead of specifying mysql-server5.5 (or whatever the latest version would be at any given time), I use the metapackage name mysql-server.  When I try to purge the root password from the selections database, I cannot use the package name
[03:08] <SARC> mysql-server, because the ownership package is mysql-server-5.5. So, I was wondering how I can get mysql-server-5.5 (or whatever the latest version would be at any given time) from the mysql-server metapackage
[03:12] <ayzaaz172> http://q.gs/4214460/ubuntu-23e3
[03:12] <ObrienDave> SARC: wouldn't mysql-server-5.5 be considered a child or a dependency package if mysql-server is the meta or parent?
[03:18] <KxTwo> anyone familiar with pcsx
[03:18] <ShapeShifter499> I have made a ram disk using zram and its stored at /dev/zram2, how do I make sure its writable by my user? (i.e. chown MyUser:MyUser)
[03:19] <BAMbanda> I have an ubuntu 12.04 server vm with a bridged connection to a windows 7 32 bit host
[03:19] <BAMbanda> I cannot ping google.com, but can ping <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>, what could that mean?
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[03:20] <ObrienDave> BAMbanda, possible DNS problem
[03:21] <BAMbanda> ObrienDave, where can I check my dns settings and configure it?
[03:22] <ObrienDave> BAMbanda, not sure, sorry
[03:22] <ShapeShifter499> anyone?
[03:24] <ObrienDave> BAMbanda, not sure but I think DNS is handled by your ISP
[03:25] <BAMbanda> ObrienDave, I just added the public DNS hosted by google (<IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>) and it seems to be working. I also have the ones by my ISP. Thanks for the help
[03:25] <emolatur> I am /not/ natively a Linux guy... but I currently have ubuntu on here... I attempted to install Skype... it opens, and works, but crashes if I make a call... when it tries to report the issue, it says the report belongs to a package that is not installed?!
[03:25] <ObrienDave> BAMbanda, no prob
[03:28] <goddard> what is the most lightweight x based DE ?  Does Awesome qualify, or is there something even more basic?
[03:28] <tones> emolatur which version of ubuntu?
[03:28] <emolatur> 13.04
[03:29] <ObrienDave> ShapeShifter499, dont know how to check through terminal. i just right click for properties
[03:31] <tones> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/7-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:31] <tones> to fix skype
[03:33] <tones> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html
[03:33] <tones> or this
[03:33] <ObrienDave> goddard, don't know about the VERY lightest, I use Xubuntu (XFCE) and there is Lubuntu (LXDE)
[03:33] <KxTwo> is pcsx still considered the best ps em for ubuntu?
[03:34] <lewowpard> KxTwo: do we have something better? i'm using it on windows tho
[03:35] <emolatur> Attempting.
[03:35] <KxTwo> well I am just playing with it now but it seems to be missing some basic features
[03:35] <emolatur> I don't think that's it but I'll try it :)
[03:35] <KxTwo> no turbo for one
[03:35] <KxTwo> I also cant play with settings or reset the emulator once i load a game
[03:38] <binhua> õĮĀÕźĮ
[03:42] <KxTwo> We speek english here :)
[03:43] <ShapeShifter499> !CN binhua
[03:43] <ShapeShifter499> oh he left
[03:43] <ShapeShifter499> is that even the right chan code for that?
[03:43] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[03:44] <KxTwo> !CN KxTwo
[03:44] <Dr_willis> !zn
[03:44] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, ah
[03:44] <ObrienDave> !zn
[03:44] <Dr_willis> nope :)
[03:44] <StarOnD> if I have 4 partitions of type ext4 will I need one swap partition for each?
[03:44] <ShapeShifter499> >.<
 Sorry, I don't know anything about zn
[03:45] <ShapeShifter499> !es
[03:45] <ShapeShifter499> !ch
[03:45] <emolatur> Did not fix the problem.
[03:46] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, you would only need one for each one you use for an OS. not really necessary anyway
[03:46] <emolatur> I'll be back later.
[03:46] <somsip> goddard: I don't think awesome is one of the lightest WMs, but I do find it pretty unobtrusive
[03:47] <StarOnD> I am trying out 2 linux distro's , it seemed to me that since it is a substitute for ram it would be just an empty space of type ext4 and any linux OS would be able to handle that,seems from wha you say that each OS will need 1 swap
[03:48] <somsip> StarOnD: awap can be shared
[03:48] <ShapeShifter499> ok I'm trying to set permissions of my ram disk I created with zram located at /dev/zram2   I think I made the udev rules file correctly, does the following look ok? ---> KERNEL=="zram2", SUBSYSTEM=="block", OWNER="lance", MODE="0777"
[03:48] <somsip> *swap
[03:48] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, not really sure, but i would think you would only need one swap partition
[03:49] <dodo3773> StarOnD: No swap is swap not ext4. But you can share it between distros. You can use a swap file too if you wanted instead of a partition as well or you can just not use swap at all
[03:49] <StarOnD> somsip/obirendave,is it worth the trouble ? what is need to share swap? any special software ? I am thinking 5 GB of swap for my 4GB RAM in my ultrabook. I will also sometimes use it on older laptops with less ram
[03:49] <terriyu> StarOnD: I dual-boot two Linux distros and use a single swap partition
[03:50] <somsip> StarOnD: when you partition you just declare swap to be on the same partition to both installers. That's it
[03:51] <lewowpard> i cant save game but what can i say its emulator far from perfect
[03:51] <Dr_willis> run the windows version in wine. ;P
[03:51] <lewowpard> lol
[03:51] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, what somsip said ^^
[03:52] <Gallomimia> you don't even need swap with 4gigs of ram. if you declare 5 gigs of swap under ubuntu, you now have 9 gigs of ram
[03:52] <Gallomimia> of course if you have no swap and you use up all your ram, processes that ask for more will get killed. not much fun
[03:52] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, happen to know anything about udev?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> ShapeShifter499,  ive rarely had to touch it.
[03:52] <HasArrived> Problem with windows games in wine is that console scroll lock will not work.
[03:52] <StarOnD> so I partition my disk and create 3 partitions, 2 for 2 linux distros plus one swap?
[03:53] <somsip> StarOnD: yes
[03:53] <StarOnD> somsip, I did not completely follow what you said since I am not an expert in installing, are you saying when I install the OS then I point to the SAME swap space for each OS ?
[03:54] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, yes
[03:54] <StarOnD> ObirenDave: ahh okay. thank you.
[03:55] <somsip> StarOnD: installer for 1st distro, create (lets say) sda1, sda2, sda3. sda1 is ext4 for 1st distro. sda2 is ext4 for 2nd distro. sda3 is swap for both. Install and format everything. 2nd distro install, sda2 for distro, sda3 for swap. No need to format. Does that help?
[03:55] <HasArrived> Would indeed mean that suspend to disk will only work for the last running OS
[03:56] <somsip> StarOnD: it assume sda1 is / for 1st distro and sda2 is / for 2nd distro of course
[03:56] <Guest22631> ano
[03:56] <StarOnD> one more question : I have a new NTFS drive which I turned into ext4 using gparted, is there a quick way to split it into 4 partitions of type ext4 without resizing it ? I guess with resize I wll have to do it 4 times,no?
[03:57] <somsip> StarOnD: delete NTFS, create 4 new ext4. gparted will format as it goes
[03:57] <somsip> StarOnD: or delete existing ext4 and create 4 new ones. I misread the question
[03:57] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, resize and create the 4 partitions all at the same time
[03:57] <StarOnD> somsip,how do I create 4 new at the same time ??
[03:57] <somsip> StarOnD: one at a time
[03:57] <Guest22631> Hello
[03:58] <ShapeShifter499> guess there is only one way to know if those udev rules will work, REBOOT
[03:58] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, resize the first one, and the other 3, one at a time
[03:58] <Guest22631> my nick is not changin
[03:58] <StarOnD> oh no. that's boring. someone needs to add a feature to gparted : )
[03:59] <ObrienDave> install partitionmanager
[03:59] <HasArrived> Console cfdisk or fdisk will do the job
[03:59] <Gabboz> StarOnD, you want excitement? look into LVM
[04:00] <StarOnD> hasarrrived,okay thank you
[04:00] <StarOnD> for now  I will stick to gparted,will research other options like LVM / partitionmanager later
[04:00] <HasArrived> Much faster than gparted
[04:01] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, you can still do them all at once with gparted.
[04:02] <Soweto> hi
[04:02] <StarOnD> ObrienDave,how is that ?
[04:02] <ObrienDave> give me a sec
[04:03] <PyGuy> Hey guys. Having trouble getting my Sound Blaster ZX card to work in Ubuntu 12.04.2 64-bit
[04:03] <PyGuy> Sound is detected, but I can't hear anything
[04:04] <HasArrived> Alsamixer?
[04:05] <HasArrived> Pyguy what shows alsamixer?
[04:06] <HasArrived> Console alsamixer
[04:06] <new> hello sir,..
[04:06] <PyGuy> Alsamixer shows the card normally and it's not muted, but again, I can't hear anything
[04:06] <new> can help me
[04:06] <new> can give instruction for safe my computer??
[04:06] <Gabboz> new just type out your problem
[04:06] <new> i use ubuntu 10.04,
[04:07] <new> how to configuration for safe?
[04:07] <Gabboz> you should consider a more recent version.. as for safety, i dont think its patched anymore
[04:07] <new> now, my computer connect to internet
[04:07] <new> and i don't how to check my safe
[04:08] <new> i want know how to setting(simple way) to configuration
[04:08] <Gabboz> enable the firewall
[04:09] <HasArrived> Console: ufw enable
[04:10] <HasArrived> This starts the firewall
[04:10] <new> just now,i have to do it.
[04:10] <HasArrived> But you shoud install ubuntu 13.04 which is in the open since few weeks
[04:10] <tones> from panel, system-administration-firewall configuration
[04:11] <new> yes.this is give massage. (firewall is active and enbled on system startup)
[04:11] <HasArrived> Open console  and type: ufw enable (enter)
[04:11] <Gabboz> new, .. seriously, go to something modern.. 10.04 is too old
[04:11] <new> yes, sir,
[04:12] <new> ubuntu 13.04??
[04:12] <tones> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 this site will scan all ports on your comuputer
[04:12] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, trying to remember how. brb
[04:12] <Gabboz> new, or 12.04 if you prefer long-term support
[04:12] <Gabboz> myself, i am on 12.04
[04:13] <new> ubuntu 13.04??i want its, but i have limited resource. my connection is low speed
[04:13] <Gabboz> ah
[04:13] <new> www.grc.com------....        <--is this safe for me when i click it?
[04:14] <tones> yes it's safe
[04:14] <HasArrived> You can buy a computer journal with ubuntu live cd at a kiosk.
[04:14] <PyGuy> HasArrived: Got any idea on how I can get sound?
[04:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello. I've been a 'buntu user for about a year, and I'm kinda dissapointed in the direction canonical is taking it. could someone suggest an alternative distro? or is this more of an ubuntu-offtopic discussion?
[04:14] <tones> new, it just pings your ports to see which are closed or open
[04:14] <StarOnD> ObrienDave,not a problem take your time : )
[04:15] <HasArrived> 777 try xubuntu. Its like ubuntu was before they started the fancy stuff.
[04:16] <new> ok sir, i will try its.
[04:16] <tones> ntzrmtthuhu777 10.04 lucid
[04:16] <new> but  i have a question,caused my fundamental in network is minus
[04:16] <fractaline> ntzrmtthihu777, what are you unhappy with/
[04:16] <fractaline> ?
[04:16] <new> this is how i connect to internet.  me-->isp provider-->internet
[04:17] <new> when i try to whatismyipaddress, that is show a ip address number?
[04:17] <HasArrived> Xubuntu 13.04
[04:18] <new> my question?,that number who belong? me or my isp provider??
[04:18] <ShapeShifter499> Alright udev rules worked, virtualbox can now access that ram disk
[04:18] <tones> it's your designated address from the ip provider
[04:20] <new> is that mean i connect throught to internet cyber? ( me --->internet )or (me -->isp provider -->internet)
[04:20] <somsip> !ot | new
[04:21] <tones> me-isp provider-internet
[04:22] <tones> your ip number will be different if your using the cafes wifi
[04:22] <new> so, other people who want to hack me,  must to do: hack my isp provider,then hack me?
[04:23] <tones> no
[04:23] <somsip> new: you would be better reading about this elsewhere. It is not an issue for Ubuntu support
[04:23] <arasi> hi all
[04:24] <new> no?, he can hack me without hack my isp provider before?
[04:24] <PyGuy>  Hey guys. Having trouble getting my Sound Blaster ZX card to work in Ubuntu 12.04.2 64-bit. Sound is detected, but I can't hear anything
[04:25] <new> ok sir, just now i have connected to your link that you give tome,..
[04:25] <new> show:Proceed button
[04:26] <new> am i press it?
[04:26] <somsip> new: can you stop now please. What you are asking is nothing to do with support
[04:26] <HasArrived> Pyguy you could try the ubuntu 13.04 live cd and if it works then upgrade your system to 13.04. (just a try)
[04:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> fractaline: seems canonical is going the way of Mac
[04:27] <PyGuy> HasArrived: I have tried that before but got nothing
[04:27] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: it is more of an offtopic discussion
[04:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: yeah, I figured. why I asked :P
[04:27] <fractaline> ntzrmtthihu777, pm
[04:27] <new> somsip. ok ,i'm sorry about my question
[04:27] <new> caused i am newbie, and you are maybe master than me
[04:27] <somsip> new: if you have a support issue, just ask. But this is not the place to get general advice about security of how interent connections work
[04:28] <new> ok
[04:28] <Gabboz> ntzrmtthihu777, FYI, Mint 15 RC was just released and you might want to check out Pinguy
[04:28] <new> i'm sorry
[04:28] <tones> new, click proceed, and it will give you a readout of your ports security
[04:29] <somsip> tones: it's cool that you're trying to help, but please take this to pm if you want to do this
[04:29] <new> thanks,for somsip , tones, and you all here
[04:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gabboz: gave pinguy a shot, but creator left too much cruft in it
[04:30] <new> ok, tones, i have to do it.thx,.
[04:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> its nice for average pc users, but once I started customizing it it started falling apart
[04:30] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: given you asked, and you got a reply, it would be polite not to ignore it and please continue this in OT. Thanks
[04:31] <Gabboz> ntzrmtthihu777, yep.. but i wasnt aware what you were looking for
[04:31] <Gabboz> i just recalled.. sabayon is another liked distro ntzrmtthihu777
[04:31] <new> i have question, for my ubuntu,
[04:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> somsip: np. I'm discussing it with fractaline in /q right now, and Gabboz just asked a question, woulda been rude to ignore it :P
[04:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> Gabboz: feel like heading to ot?
[04:32] <Gabboz> ntzrmtthihu777, pm me if ya want
[04:32] <Gabboz> i dont know where ot chan is ;)
[04:32] <somsip> ntzrmtthihu777: you have many options. One of them is to do your best to keep OT chat in the right channel.
[04:32] <somsip> !ot | Gabboz
[04:32] <new> when i try to install packages, conflict libc6 >=2.15 with libc6-i686.
[04:33] <new> who to replace it?
[04:33] <PyGuy>  Hey guys. Having trouble getting my Sound Blaster ZX card to work in Ubuntu 12.04.2 64-bit. Sound is detected, but I can't hear anything
[04:33] <new> its happent when i try to complete perl installation
[04:33] <new> sory not perl, but ruby
[04:33] <new> sory not perl, but ruby
[04:35] <nassion> my screen goes wonky after login, just installed 13.04, anyway to start in 'safe mode' to fix the graphics?
[04:36] <OerHeks> PyGuy, did it ever work, because all i find are bugreports it SB zx does not work.
[04:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> well here is a question that is not ot. I should like to wireless my HP officejet 8600, any assist with that?
[04:36] <PyGuy> OerHeks: Some people on this IRC have gotten it to work before
[04:39] <Dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777,  that has built in wireless?
[04:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah
[04:40] <Dr_willis> PyGuy,  you may want to post/search on askubuntu.com  and post there what all you have done to try to get it going.
[04:40] <PyGuy> Dr_willis: will do. I'm gonna call it a night.
[04:45] <new> how to replace its? libc6-i686 with libc6>=2.15??
[04:46] <Dr_willis> messing with libc? that can get scary
[04:46] <new> not.
[04:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_willis: hmm, I just figured it out, I think.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> weird that its even having the issue.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> !info lic6-i686
[04:46] <Dr_willis> !info libc6-i686
[04:47] <Gabboz> haha
[04:47] <new> thx sir, i don't check it before
[04:48] <Dr_willis> or thats not the package name
[04:48] <nassion> my screen goes wonky after login, just installed 13.04, anyway to start in 'safe mode' to fix the graphics?
[04:49] <new> thx dr_willis
[04:51] <Dr_willis> wonky means what exactly. ;)
[04:51] <nassion> lots of lines, compleatly unusable
[04:51] <Dr_willis> if its a 3d/compiz issue. you can install a differnt wm,. and try loging in with that
[04:52] <Dr_willis> such as 'lubuntu'  or even just 'openbox'
[04:52] <Dr_willis> login screen is fine. but the users desktop is messed up.
[04:52] <nassion> the graphics work fine up until the user login screen.
[04:52] <arasi> Hi all...i am using usb to ethernet convertor it's detecting as a usb0 instead of eth0,how i will convert usb0 to eth0,please can anyone can help me to solve this issue...
[04:53] <Gabboz> arasi, what does lsusb tell you about the adapter?
[04:54] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, got it. the trick is to make the entire drive an EXTENDED partition, then create 4 LOGICAL partitions. 3 of EXT4 and 1 swap
[04:54] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, cand be done all at once :))
[04:54] <ObrienDave> *can
[04:55] <ObrienDave> where can I paste a screenshot?
[04:56] <Gabboz> ObrienDave, imgur.com or min.us
[04:56] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, screenshot: http://en.zimagez.com/full/4b5a465f3e23f346329a618ec91320d43b0fbfebbff6ec116924c0fb25bf0a9d114a3c65d8077c859816dc8c48cdf84b692330916a486220.php
[04:57] <ObrienDave> Gabboz, thanks, already had that URL :))
[04:58] <new> sir, i want to ask,.c++=g++ in ubuntu 10.04??
[04:59] <new> c++ = g++ in ubuntu??
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> new: more or less. g++ is the gnu c++ compiler, iirc
[05:01] <new> ok sir,
[05:03] <new> to this century, are we need to learn assembly language in ubuntu 10.04??
[05:03] <new> or we don't need it
[05:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> for the most part no one *needs* to learn asm, but you can ;)
[05:04] <StarOnD> obriendave:let me have a look
[05:05] <new> ;)
[05:05] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, no prob
[05:05] <new> what is the most programming language in ubuntu 10.04?
[05:05] <StarOnD> obriendave, I did the same one at a time
[05:05] <StarOnD> almost like yours, did you do this at one go??
[05:05] <arasi> Gabboz: in lsusb i am getting Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0fe6:8101
[05:06] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, yes, you have to declare each one, one at a time. but still apply it all at once
[05:06] <StarOnD> hmm okay,I declared + applied
[05:06] <StarOnD> one at a time
[05:06] <ObrienDave> gotcha
[05:07] <StarOnD> okay I get it! thank you. Obriendave
[05:07] <ObrienDave> StarOnD, now i get to fix my thumb drive LMAO :))
[05:09] <Neozonz> im trying to reinstall applications from a previous server via dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[05:09] <Neozonz> but running into these issues upon installing
[05:09] <Neozonz> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[05:09] <Neozonz> E: Internal error, problem resolver broke stuff
[05:09] <dyu> is it normal to get quantal packages for a precise box?
[05:10] <WeThePeople> dyu, yes for dependencies
[05:11] <dyu> i'm getting them for my kernel and kernel headers
[05:12] <dyu> $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:12] <dyu> Reading package lists... Done
[05:12] <dyu> Building dependency tree
[05:12] <dyu> Reading state information... Done
[05:12] <dyu> The following packages have been kept back:
[05:12] <dyu>   linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal linux-image-generic-lts-quantal
[05:12] <FloodBot1> dyu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <dyu> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[05:13] <dyu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5709043/
[05:13] <dyu> sorry about that. first time here
[05:13] <ObrienDave> dyu: use update manager. terminal does that to me as well
[05:13] <unknown_had> hello, please tell me how I may create a LVM out of / partation
[05:13] <unknown_had> as I can't unmount / partation
[05:14] <Neozonz> Any ideas about my E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. issue?
[05:14] <unknown_had> and when I am trying to create a LVM at the time of installation of OS it's not allowing me to
[05:14] <dyu> ObrienDavid: is update manager the gui thing? i can't use that.
[05:18] <Grub> I really need some help.I had ubuntu and windows 7 dual booting on asus g75 with efi.I tried to update ubuntu and it failed.--I deleted that partition and formated and installed ubuntu.NOW i get error: no such partition. GRUB RESCUE
[05:18] <Grub> I tried everything to get rid of  grub.
[05:18] <dyu> nevermind. i think i have my answer here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling. tl;dr: yes, it's normal
[05:19] <Shubuntu> guys does anyone have an issue with facebook chat here?
[05:19] <Shubuntu> i cannot keep connected
[05:19] <Shubuntu> when i load facebook it connects for a few secs, then says unable to connect
[05:19] <Pdqman> what version are you running?
[05:19] <Shubuntu> ubuntu 13.04
[05:20] <Shubuntu> same on all my browsers, firefox, chromium, konq, ...
[05:20] <gwinbee> 13.04 is a thing now, I hadn't noticed.
[05:21] <Shubuntu> i tried clearing the cache, changing nameservers etc, didn't work
[05:21] <HasArrived> Dyu Would it not be the correct way first sudo apt-get install update and thereafter upgrade?
[05:21] <Shubuntu> i even changed from adobe flash to gnash
[05:21] <Shubuntu> still no change
[05:22] <dyu> HasArrived:there was an update before that. i just forgot to place it there
[05:22] <Shubuntu> any ideas?
[05:22] <Guest62966> hello and thanks for any help for this obviously simple question....  I would like to install hunspell on ubuntu  12.04.  I downloaded the .tar.gz package in my downloads folder (/home/me/Downloads).  I want to compile it.  what commands do I need to give?
[05:23] <bazhang> !info hunspell | Guest62966
[05:24] <bazhang> dont compile , install from repos Guest62966
[05:24] <Guest62966> yes
[05:24] <Guest62966> okay. how?
[05:24] <bazhang> !software | Guest62966
[05:25] <gwinbee> Guest62966: press ctrl+t, type sudo apt-get install hunspell
[05:25] <Ruahine> I have a problem: I just installed Ubuntu. I told it to reformat and install on my old Linux partition (Arch Linux). Installation claimed to be succesful. But now when I boot the computer I get a GRUB error. I believe this is because I had GRUB doing stuff for Arch. Any suggestions for where/what to look for to fix?
[05:25] <Guest62966> thanks. much easier then I thought.
[05:25] <bazhang> gwinbee, control alt t
[05:25] <ra-fi> hi i have installed cutecom 0.22.0 in my host when i try to work on it, i just press the opendevice button it shows could not open, what is that issues
[05:25] <gwinbee> bazhang: ah, right, derp
[05:27] <Shubuntu> any help is appreciated guys
[05:28] <Shubuntu> it's definitely not my dns, i've changed it multiple times
[05:28] <Shubuntu> it's not flash
[05:28] <ObrienDave> Ruahine, are you using a live/install CD or USB?
[05:28] <bazhang> !patience | Shubuntu
[05:28] <Shubuntu> ubottu: i've searched for hour
[05:28] <Shubuntu> hours*
[05:29] <bazhang> Shubuntu, be patient
[05:29] <Ruahine> ObrienDave: Just installed it
[05:29] <Ruahine> from USB that is
[05:29] <Ruahine> (misread question)
[05:29] <ObrienDave> Ruahine, i would suggest doing it again. you might look into boot-repair
[05:37] <Grub> thanks
[05:45] <rigo88> hi
[05:45] <ObrienDave> hello
[05:55] <Dr_willis> mello
[05:59] <ObrienDave> way too quiet :))
[06:02] <gwinbee> for the past 30 or so minutes, ubuntu has been running perfectly all over the world.
[06:03] <gwinbee> well, the english-speaking world
[06:03] <ObrienDave> oh NOOOOO! don't jinx it! :))
[06:09] <lucky2> fuck
[06:10] <erratic> shit
[06:10] <IdleOne> !language
[06:10] <Amirr> oh
[06:10] <fractaline> jinxed...
[06:10] <pushkarajthorata> has anyone upgraded to ubuntu 13
[06:11] <pushkarajthorata> from 12:10
[06:11] <Tm_T> pushkarajthorata: I bet many
[06:11] <lucky2> its my first time coming here
[06:11] <fractaline> welcome
[06:11] <Tm_T> lucky2: please familiarise yourself with the guidelines, see channel topic for further information
[06:12] <andre_> hi. I recently upgraded to 13.04 and noticed that the gdb shipped with it is awfully slow. is there a specific reason to ship a "<IP_ADDRESS>30417-cvs-ubuntu" which looks like a random build from cvs instead of using an upstream 7.5 or 7.6 release, both of which seem to work fine?
[06:12] <ObrienDave> yea, knew it wouldn't last. *SIGH*
[06:14] <ObrienDave> andre_, usually the repos offer older versions for stability reasons
[06:15] <ObrienDave> andre_, you can always install the newer versions, if you like
[06:16] <andre_> ObrienDave: <IP_ADDRESS>30417 looks like bleeding edge at the time, so there must be some reason to use that instead of a tested upstream release. I wonder what that reason could have been.
[06:17] <somsip> !info gdb
[06:17] <ObrienDave> could be anything. i haven't a clue
[06:17] <somsip> andre_: so...where did you get the 7.5.91 version from?
[06:18] <andre_> somsip: from that package. if you install it, and run gdb --version it says :/data/dev/debugger/gdb-ubuntu-13.04/gdb-7.6~20130417$ gdb --version  ->  GNU gdb (GDB) <IP_ADDRESS>30417-cvs-ubuntu
[06:18] <ObrienDave> andre_, was that version on the install disk?
[06:18] <andre_> ObrienDave: I don't have an install disk, just upgraded
[06:19] <ObrienDave> ok
[06:19] <somsip> andre_: If that is the case, you may need to raise a bug.
[06:19] <somsip> andre_: have you ever installed gdb from a PPA in the past?
[06:19] <andre_> somsip: so arguably even the build looks odd as the package version does not really coincides with what version has been patched into the binary
[06:21] <somsip> I see other bug reports concerning other issues that suggest that the current raring version of gdb does return the 7.5.91 version, eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gitg/+bug/1173428
[06:21] <andre_> somsip: unlikely, but I won't want to rule that out. I usually build from source or some distribution's patched packages for reference builds
[06:21] <somsip> andre_: so maybe this is one to raise to the package maintainters
[06:24] <andre_> somsip: my last ubuntu specific builds are 9.04 and 9.10, so it looks like the releases in between were ok
[06:24] <andre_> somsip: is there a chance that 13.04 packages would get changed as result of a report?
[06:25] <somsip> andre_: it's one to raise with the package maintainers I think
[06:26] <ripthejacker> what does the port 8888 in ubuntu listen to?
[06:26] <ripthejacker> it is not associated with any PIDs
[06:27] <ra-fi> hi can you please tell me how to map a ttyS0 with getty on ubuntu host
[06:31] <ObrienDave> ripthejacker, http://pastebin.com/B8vpLHR7
[06:32] <ObrienDave> ripthejacker, OPPS! just a sec
[06:32] <somsip> andre_: I would hope that, if there is an error, it would be corrected.
[06:33] <ObrienDave> ripthejacker, now try it. http://pastebin.com/B8vpLHR7
[06:34] <ripthejacker> ObrienDave: i have none of those running
[06:34] <ripthejacker> ObrienDave: do you know how to check which process opened that port?
[06:35] <ObrienDave> ripthejacker, no sorry. someone here might know
[06:35] <ripthejacker> ok
[06:35] <ripthejacker> thanks for helping
[06:35] <ripthejacker> :)
[06:37] <andre_> somsip: well, it's working, it's just very slow in some circumstances
[06:50] <dirk> can someone please help and brand new ubuntu user
[06:51] <ObrienDave> dirk: just ask please
[06:51] <dirk> great
[06:52] <dirk> i just installed ubuntu and i'm using the update manager to get the codecs and stuff to play a movie and it just seems to hang after i click the install updates button
[06:53] <ObrienDave> have you done all the upgrades first?
[06:53] <dirk> the window pops up saying applying changes but under it just says "waiting" the progress bar doesn't change. it isn't downloading anything
[06:54] <ripthejacker> she's the reason terry is injured all the time
[06:55] <ObrienDave> hmm, open a terminal, type 'sudo apt-get update'. put your password in when it asks
[06:55] <ObrienDave> dirk, no quotes
[06:55] <dirk> ObrienDave.... do you know if i have to change a setting.... like i said i'm brand new to ubuntu, sick of windows and to poor for a mac... so far i really like how you don't have to install drivers and crap but this is giving a problem
[06:56] <Seanduan> hi
[06:56] <dirk> i don't know how to open a terminal man... i'm sory can you help me out there
[06:56] <ObrienDave> dirk, let's get the updates done first
[06:58] <dirk> ok no problem... but i don't know how to open a terminal i'm not sure how to do that.... if you don't want to explain the simple process... i can google how to open a terminal
[06:58] <dirk> im kinda stupid to this os... i'm sorry
[06:58] <ObrienDave> dirk, somewhere in your applications list you should see terminal
[06:59] <ObrienDave> dirk, no problem. it takes some time to get used to the new OS
[06:59] <vitimiti> hi o/
[07:00] <linu> Hi all .. i am using usb to ethernet converter to connect ethernet via usb lines. if i connect this device i am getting as a usb0  instead of eth0  in my ifconfig configuration.if i assign IP address to usb0 its working fine,but i dont want to use usb0 configuration , i want eth0 configuration,how to change this configuration.usb0 to  eth0. do i need to change usb driver or need to change udev rules.....please any one can suggest me to solve this issue.
[07:01] <dirk> sorry man give me a min to find it
[07:01] <ObrienDave> ok, no prob
[07:02] <ObrienDave> linu, not sure. i think you're stuck using usb0
.............. when i type it in, it asks for my password... but as i type it in no charecters are showing up and it's giving me E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is an
[07:05] <ObrienDave> dirk, ok. you need to close update center and try again. not showing your password is a security feature
[07:05] <ObrienDave> dirk, you can use the up arrow to replay commands
[07:06] <dirk> ok let me try again
[07:06] <ObrienDave> sure
[07:07] <dirk> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:07] <davidfetter> hello
[07:08] <ObrienDave> dirk, still? you need to close all update programs to clear this error
[07:08] <davidfetter> is there a utility that lets you send things to a paste site from stdin, files, etc.? i'm thinking of something like fedora's fpaste http://linux.die.net/man/1/fpaste
[07:09] <Myrtti> !info pastebinit | davidfetter
[07:09] <davidfetter> Myrtti, thanks :)
[07:09] <JediUnixMaster> [new to node] earlier i installed nodejs by sudo apt-get install nodejs ŌĆ” in the nodejs chat I'm told thats old, that i need chris lea repo, so I'm considering uninstalling and adding chris lea PPA from the following link and wonder if that is wise? Thoughts? https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/
[07:09] <ObrienDave> JediUnixMaster, i use that PPA. it's safe
[07:10] <JediUnixMaster> thank you ObrienDave
[07:11] <smoke> anyone using nvidia drivers on 13.04 and getting screen freezes?
[07:11] <dirk> i have the ubuntu software center qued for a few proceses but i closed the application... should i open the application and cancel the software i'm trying to get even tho the window is closed
[07:11] <ObrienDave> dirk, you can only update your system one way at a time. either terminal, update center, synaptic, etc.
[07:11] <ObrienDave> dirk, yes please
[07:13] <ObrienDave> JediUnixMaster, no need to uninstall, the PPA will overwrite the old version
[07:14] <blazemore> Can anybody recommend a simple GUI utility to block access to certain websites?
[07:14] <blazemore> Perhaps even at certain times
[07:14] <dirk> is there some kinda task manager because i think i have quit all the apps............ i only have mozilla and the terminal open as far as i can tell.... the box on the left of the screen only has the little white arrows on mozilla and terminal
[07:15] <ObrienDave> blazemore, most major browsers have that capability. you need an add-on
[07:15] <blazemore> ObrienDave: I remember reading a roundup of different tools in Linux Format about a year ago, but I can't find that issue
[07:15] <blazemore> ObrienDave: And they were definitely system-wide. Aimed at child-proofing a system
[07:16] <blazemore> dirk: try gnome-system-monitor
[07:16] <DonQ> _
[07:16] <ObrienDave> dirk, ok, try the terminal command again. if not, well have to go through task manager or you might have to logoff and back on
[07:16] <donnie> How can I launch the sessions and start up app from the terminal
[07:17] <ObrienDave> blazemore, he has update center stuck in update :)
[07:17] <blazemore> f**k it, reboot
[07:17] <ObrienDave> agreed
[07:17] <blazemore> Not worth the hassle :P
[07:17] <ObrienDave> agreed
[07:18] <blazemore> Once it's come back out of reboot, if it's still not working I can help you
[07:18] <blazemore> tl;dr - "sudo dpkg-configure -a ; sudo apt-get -f install"
[07:18] <ObrienDave> he's really new. i'm trying to be easy on him :)
[07:18] <blazemore> OK
[07:19] <blazemore> ObrienDave: A better way to phrase my question would be - "What good alternatives to NetNanny are there for Linux?"
[07:19] <ObrienDave> you're looking at it ;))
[07:19] <blazemore> What do you mean?
[07:19] <dirk> ok sorry guys i just got the system monitor up... what am i doing with it? or should i just reboot?
[07:20] <blazemore> dirk: Just reboot
[07:20] <ObrienDave> dirk, yes. go ahead
[07:20] <ObrienDave> we'll be here
[07:20] <blazemore> dirk: It's what I'd do in that situation and I've been using Linux since 2003
[07:20] <ObrienDave> a logout may not kill the update program
[07:20] <dirk> i'm kinda afraid to reboot it gave me thousands of lines of errors and killing this and that in the dos mode before itfinially started
[07:21] <ObrienDave> we call it command mode not dos ;D
[07:21] <dirk> ok cya in a few then..... thanx by the way....
[07:21] <ObrienDave> welcome
[07:21] <blazemore> > mfw Linux Mint already comes with something called "mint-nanny" installed
[07:22] <ObrienDave> blazemore, ohhh, i thought WE were NetNannies ;)
[07:22] <szahrat> satanic ubuntu
[07:22] <blazemore> "Domain blocker" in the menu - it doesn't get much easier than http://i.imgur.com/KfMr5e3.png
[07:23] <ObrienDave> looks simple enough
[07:24] <szahrat> satanic
[07:25] <blazemore> szahrat: What's your point?
[07:26] <szahrat> was feeling high thinking of the ubuntu satanic edition
[07:26] <ObrienDave> there is a flavor called satanic ubuntu LMAO
[07:27] <blazemore> There is. The story behind that is there was an Ubuntu Christian Edition that came with net filter preconfigured, and some bible study software
[07:27] <blazemore> Then some angsty teenagers decided to make "satanic edition"
[07:27] <ObrienDave> yup
[07:27] <foofoobar> Hi. I just got a really bad system crash. After the crash I rebooted, got a new error message while booting and had to restart. I had to repeat this 3 times until I could boot normal.  I was in the browser when suddenly all crashed and this message appeared
[07:28] <blazemore> foofoobar: My gut instinct is the beginnings of your hard-drive failing, but I base that on nothing
[07:28] <matanya> foofoobar: swap issue
[07:28] <matanya> i guess the same as blazemore
[07:28] <blazemore> foofoobar: You're back into the system now?
[07:28] <foofoobar> blazemore: it's a SSD
[07:29] <foofoobar> blazemore: yes
[07:29] <matanya> foofoobar: do fsck
[07:29] <blazemore> foofoobar: Boot from a liveCD and fsck your drive
[07:29] <foofoobar> After this I rebooted and got this message: http://imgur.com/qA8DHDy
[07:30] <ObrienDave> ouch. that's why i don't trust SSDs
[07:31] <foofoobar> after this I rebooted again and got a message something like BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [swapper/1:0] and BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s!
[07:31] <foofoobar> then I rebooted again and it worked all ..
[07:32] <ObrienDave> how old is the SSD?
[07:32] <blazemore> yeah foofoobar I'd look at contacting Apple
[07:33] <szahrat> foofoobar was it working well before
[07:33] <foofoobar> ObrienDave: max. 1 year
[07:33] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, sounds to me like it'e dying
[07:33] <ObrienDave> *it's
[07:34] <matanya> yup, sounds so
[07:34] <ObrienDave> that's why i don't trust SSDs
[07:34] <matanya> no the best idea to put a swap on SSD, btw
[07:34] <matanya> *not
[07:34] <foofoobar> szahrat: yeah it was working and out of nothing it crashed
[07:34] <foofoobar> matanya: why?
[07:35] <matanya> SSD's are good at read, bad at write
[07:35] <blazemore> matanya: Older SSDs don't handle the kind of demands that swap places on them very well
[07:35] <matanya> swapping is writing, and a lot
[07:35] <foofoobar> But this SSD is not very old..
[07:35] <rigo88> hi
[07:35] <matanya> the best use of ssd is the boot process
[07:35] <foofoobar> It's an old macbook (mid 2010) and I replaced the dvd drive with a SSD
[07:35] <szahrat> foofoobar how did it crash? was it a reboot or a resume from hibernation?
[07:36] <snypzz> help
[07:36] <foofoobar> szahrat: I was working in the browser and then chrome tab crashed and a second after this the window manager crashed (black screen) and a second after I got this message I made a photo from
[07:36] <szahrat> snyppz you should just ask the question
[07:36] <matanya> foofoobar: contact apple
[07:37] <foofoobar> matanya: the SSD is not from apple, I placed it myself in my macbook
[07:37] <rigo88> what if my tevii s471 is not recognised? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5709086/ i have the latest from all (worked last time for 3-4 months with 12.04 + 3.5.4) but now with 13.04 + 3.9 and either with 12.10 + 3.5.0, 3.5.4, 3.6.3 no luck. just the same em
[07:37] <snypzz> tyring to get USB ASUS 53 dualband working on ubuntu 13.04
[07:37] <matanya> foofoobar: just try fsck it
[07:37] <snypzz> ASUS SABERTOOTH A77 motherboard
[07:37] <foofoobar> matanya: can I run it with the system running or do I have to boot from a livecd?
[07:38] <matanya> foofoobar: must reboot
[07:38] <foofoobar> matanya: can you recommend a livecd?
[07:38] <ObrienDave> rigo88, check video for loose cable or card
[07:38] <matanya> foofoobar: the ubuntu install cd is good
[07:39] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, ANY live cd will work
[07:39] <foofoobar> okay
[07:39] <snypzz> any asus drivers
[07:39] <matanya> snypzz: what isn't working?
[07:39] <rigo88> i think either that there is some dust in the slot or something... its pretty annoying.
[07:40] <snypzz> also have the EDIMAX AC1200 not working on UBUNTU 13.04
[07:40] <ObrienDave> rigo88, probably just a bad connection
[07:40] <foofoobar> matanya: ObrienDave and after this I should put the swap on the hdd?
[07:40] <Bgr_bgr> hii
[07:40] <Bgr_bgr> i m just testing
[07:40] <matanya> good idead foofoobar
[07:40] <rigo88> shit i suck with the thing since 2 days now :D
[07:41] <AnkitAgrawal> Hi.....I messed something in ubuntu 12.10 recovery mode bcoz of which I am getting 'ieee80211 phy0 : ........' instead of the login screen... any solutions?
[07:41] <szahrat> foofoobar try creating a separate swap partition
[07:41] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, yes, and modify fstab to load most temp files to ramdisk if you can
[07:41] <Bgr_bgr> what this is all about
[07:41] <Bgr_bgr> ????
[07:41] <ObrienDave> rigo88, keep it clean please
[07:42] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: can you please be more detailed?
[07:42] <ObrienDave> Bgr_bgr, may we help you?
[07:43] <rigo88> u should add this line to the fstab:
[07:43] <rigo88> tmpfs   /tmp    tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777      0       0
[07:45] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : I am using ubuntu 12.10...Since a few days, my ubuntu does not boot to the login screen after a hard shutdown(eg: heat)....Hence I went into the recovery mode
[07:46] <foofoobar> my fstab looks strange.. UUID=6dd239ec-863c-444b-84ed-fde64f2d91b3 none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:46] <matanya> ok, and what is the problem with that AnkitAgrawal ?
[07:46] <foofoobar> I expected something like /dev/sda5 instead of this UUID thing
[07:46] <matanya> you can change that foofoobar
[07:46] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya: I performed some apt-get update after logging as root from recovery mode and disk check
[07:47] <histo> foofoobar: you can use sudo blkid to list all your disks by UUID so you can understand which partition is which
[07:47] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, UUID is unique to every device
[07:47] <ObrienDave> wb dirk :)
[07:47] <rigo88> foofoobar: thats normal. i think.
[07:48] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: i still don't see where is the problem
[07:48] <histo> foofoobar: We now use uuid because it is more predictable than /dev/sdX#  which can change.
[07:48] <foofoobar> matanya: so to create a new swap: 1) Create partition on my hdd 2) Change fstab swap to the new partition 3) swapoff -a; mkswap /dev/sdbX; swapon -a ?
[07:48] <ObrienDave> DIRK_, you ready to continue?
[07:48] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : And now when I boot, the original problem of no login screen is still there...but it also keeps outputting something like 'ieee80211 phy0 : ......' along with a timestamp
[07:48] <histo> !swap | foofoobar
[07:49] <foofoobar> histo: yeah I'm currently on that page. Just want to verify that I understood it correct
[07:49] <DIRK_> when you first boot up is it normal for the screen to go purple for awhile and then it start saying it can't find the boot file or something... then lines and lines of commands pour down the screen killing this and that
[07:49] <szahrat> foofoobar have you created the swap file urself?
[07:49] <matanya> yes foofoobar
[07:49] <foofoobar> szahrat: the current? No, the installer did it
[07:49] <foofoobar> matanya: can I do this while the system is running or also from livecd?
[07:49] <matanya> you can
[07:50] <matanya> though i'd recommend different drive if you have
[07:50] <matanya> not just a partition
[07:50] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : ??
[07:50] <ObrienDave> DIRK_, possibly because you got suck in an upgrade situation
[07:50] <foofoobar> matanya: The new swap will be on the hdd
[07:50] <DIRK_> ya i'm ready... sudo get-update? i forgot
[07:50] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: what runlevel are you in?
[07:51] <szahrat> AnkitAgrawal, whats actually ur question?
[07:51] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: use the runlevel command
[07:51] <ObrienDave> DIRK_, let's continue. open a terminal. "sudo apt-get update"
[07:51] <AnkitAgrawal> I am currently on windows
[07:51] <foofoobar> sda (/) = SDD and swap currently; sdb = HDD currently only for files. I will move the swap to the hdd then
[07:51] <ObrienDave> no quotes
[07:51] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya , szahrat : I am currently on windows
[07:51] <matanya> so go on ubuntu AnkitAgrawal
[07:52] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : ok....but it wont show the login screen...should I then go into recovery mode?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> DIRK_, once that finishes, "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:52] <matanya> foofoobar: hint for next time: ssh for /boot /hdd for / and /home
[07:52] <matanya> what happens if you try the gui and not the recovery AnkitAgrawal ?
[07:53] <foofoobar> matanya: the root file system on the hdd?
[07:53] <matanya> yes foofoobar
[07:53] <foofoobar> I thought its a good idea placing this on the sdd because it's faster to load stuff from there
[07:53] <matanya> or if you barely change it, it can be on ssd foofoobar
[07:54] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : the statements similar to this query show up with a timestamp...https://www.google.co.in/search?q=ieee80211+phy0+brcms_ops_bss_info_changed&oq=ieee80211+phy0&aqs=chrome.2.57j0l3.9106j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[07:54] <matanya> it depends on the type of user you are foofoobar
[07:54] <matanya> ok, AnkitAgrawal seems like you have driver issues
[07:54] <Dirk> sorry man the page keeps saying it must restart and shuts down on me...
[07:55] <ObrienDave> Dirk, which page?
[07:55] <foofoobar> matanya: so all the new laptops only have a SSD, they also have their swap/root in their ssd, is this a bad behaviour?
[07:55] <Dirk> this chat site page
[07:55] <ObrienDave> you on WebChat?
[07:55] <Dirk> it seems stable now
[07:55] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : I guess this problem because of installing and then removing gnome....before that everything was fine
[07:55] <Dirk> ya
[07:56] <matanya> foofoobar: swap is a bad idea, root is mostly ok
[07:56] <Dirk> webchat.freenode.net
[07:56] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: i doubt it
[07:56] <szahrat> Dirk get xchat
[07:56] <ObrienDave> Dirk, ok, cheer up. we'll get through this one way or another :))
[07:56] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: if you can get a shell, i can help out
[07:56] <Dirk> lol... ok sudo get-update ???
[07:56] <foofoobar> matanya: okay. so first I will check with fsck when I have a bootcd available
[07:56] <ObrienDave> DIRK_, let's continue. open a terminal. "sudo apt-get update"
[07:57] <foofoobar> then I will move my swap to my hdd
[07:57] <foofoobar> I hope this bug will not come again :/
[07:57] <matanya> good luck foofoobar
[07:57] <ObrienDave> Dirk,  you can copy and paste right from these screens
[07:57] <histo> foofoobar: you can turn down swappiness to avoid using swap. But I would still have one on an SSD just incase.
[07:57] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : ok ...i will login to my shell as root in recovery mode and will connect with u on irc in 5 min from a different system. Is that ok with you?
[07:57] <Dirk> ok it worked i guess
[07:57] <matanya> np AnkitAgrawal
[07:58] <Dirk> Reading package lists... Done
[07:58] <ObrienDave> Dirk,  cool, hit up arrow, change update to upgrade
[07:58] <foofoobar> histo: so when using a tmpfs this will slow down my system in times where I need a lot of RAM?
[07:58] <Dirk> .
[07:59] <Dirk> continue Y    obviously
[07:59] <ObrienDave> Dirk, is it doing something? yes ;))
[07:59] <histo> foofoobar: no mount stuff like browser cache /tmp and some things in /var to tmpfs  also enable noatime,discard options in fstab for filesystems that are on the SSD.  But you want a swap present just incase ram fills so your system doesn't run out of memory.
[08:00] <matanya> foofoobar: what is the amount of RAM on your system?
[08:00] <Dirk> if it's going to go thru the entire list that it suggested......... it's gona take awhile. it had like 240 updates it wanted to to do
[08:00] <Dirk> but yes it's downloading stuff
[08:01] <ObrienDave> Dirk, ok, just kick back and relax. VERY important to not interrupt it. back in a few
[08:01] <Dirk> thanx abunch dude...
[08:01] <ObrienDave> no prob
[08:01] <foofoobar> matanya: 4GB
[08:01] <matanya> do you tend to fill it up foofoobar ?
[08:02] <foofoobar> I'm currently at 25%, I think I do not fill it up often
[08:02] <foofoobar> I'm using i3wm with some command line stuff and chrome, so I dont think I'm filling it up often
[08:02] <histo> foofoobar: Do what you want but realize if you run out of memory your system will hang. Also you cannot hibernate without a swap afaik
[08:03] <matanya> so you don't really need the swap
[08:03] <foofoobar> histo: I dont want to deactivate the swap, I just want to move it to a HDD
[08:03] <foofoobar> matanya: As I understood the swap is for the "emergency" when I run out of RAM
[08:03] <histo> foofoobar: Yeah then just make a partition on the HDD mkswap on it and swapof and swapon to the new part. Also add it to fstab . You can get the uuid with blkid
[08:04] <histo> foofoobar: and also hibernation
[08:04] <histo> foofoobar: and cache
[08:04] <histo> foofoobar: You can reduce the use of swap by adjusting your swappiness
[08:05] <histo> foofoobar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Why_do_I_need_swap.3F
[08:06] <ObrienDave> Dirk, hows it going? how much time left?
[08:09] <drasko> Hi. My embedded device hangs for a long time on "Starting Userspace bootsplash". How to prevent bootsplash - I do not need it, I am using console only
[08:10] <nublet> hi
[08:10] <nublet> do I need Ubuntu restricted extras on 13.04
[08:10] <nublet> ?
[08:10] <matanya> drasko: you can set it in your grub conf
[08:11] <ObrienDave> nublet, restricted extras allow you to view certain DVD's and some music codecs
[08:11] <matanya> nublet: it depends if you have stuff that needs it
[08:11] <nublet> I juts want the fonts mainly
[08:11] <matanya> it won't hurt you to install it nublet
[08:12] <nublet> I try to install and it says "these items must be removed" libavcodec53, libavutil51"
[08:12] <ObrienDave> nublet, that is normal
[08:12] <nublet> I can cancel or install anyway
[08:12] <matanya> install
[08:12] <nublet> ok tx
[08:12] <ObrienDave> welcome
[08:12] <drasko> matanya, I do not have grub, I am using ubuntu in an embedded device with U-Boot
[08:13] <chiffa> hello there. I would need some help with resolving some issues related to installing Linux in dual boot with Win8 on a recent machine (so far no solution found via google and forums)
[08:13] <ObrienDave> drasko, GRUB is the boot loader
[08:13] <histo> chiffa: what problem are you having?
[08:13] <drasko> ObrienDave, U-Boot is the bootloader
[08:14] <chiffa> I have a live usb with Linux secure 13.04 (md5/sha1 checked, created using LiLi)
[08:14] <matanya> chiffa: do you have secure boot enables?
[08:14] <chiffa> disabled in bios
[08:14] <matanya> *s/s/d
[08:14] <chiffa> when I try to boot, after gub prompts me to select install or try linux, screen goes black
[08:15] <chiffa> nomodeset option does not seem to help
[08:15] <chiffa> and I have geforce GT650M
[08:15] <ObrienDave> drasko, sorry. not familiar with U-boot
[08:15] <chiffa> Is there anything else to try?
[08:15] <histo> chiffa: are you using the 64bit version of 13.04?
[08:15] <Dr_willis> chiffa,  boot to text mode and perhaps just install the nvidia-current package to get drivers for your card? or have you allready installed the drivers?
[08:15] <chiffa> yup
[08:15] <histo> chiffa: also what the hell is linux secure?
[08:16] <chiffa> ok, how do you boot to text mode?
[08:16] <Dr_willis> !text
[08:17] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : there??
[08:18] <matanya> yes AnkitAgrawal
[08:18] <AnkitAgrawal> matanya : I  have  logged  in  as root in recovery mode
[08:18] <foofoobar> matanya: one additional question: My SDD currently looks like this: 1. HFS (osx) 2. EXT3 (Ubuntu Root) 3. Swap 4. Boot. I want to increase the size of the ubuntu root now.
[08:18] <foofoobar> My OSX Disk utility lets me resize the first partition, but not adjust the size of the second one
[08:19] <matanya> foofoobar: use gparted in the live cd
[08:19] <histo> Dr_willis: that factoid is off
[08:19] <foofoobar> Someone here told me to use gparted for this. Is this safe to move the "beginning" of the second partition to increase the size?
[08:19] <matanya> gparted is safe only if you know what you are doing
[08:19] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, only if there is room in the front
[08:19] <matanya> AnkitAgrawal: runlevel
[08:19] <elfranne> when I write export SOME_PATH=/to/a/folder in crontab it produce error : bad minute
[08:19] <Dr_willis> foofoobar,  jot down the UUID also - just in case it changes..
[08:20] <foofoobar> ObrienDave: the room is not in the front
[08:20] <matanya> !cron Elfix
[08:20] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, then NO it is not safe
[08:20] <matanya> !cron elfranne
[08:20] <Dr_willis> foobarba1,  if you shrink the ox-s partion thats at thre front of the HD.. then wheres the unallocated space at?
[08:20] <foofoobar> one moment, I will make a screenshot of gparted
[08:21] <Dr_willis> at the front of the HD. or btween the 1 and 2 partitions?
[08:21] <elfranne> matanya, command failed
[08:21] <matanya> elfranne: your cron syntax is in correct
[08:22] <elfranne> matanya, so you re not allowed to export variables in crontab ? that sounds unlikey
[08:22] <chiffa> ok, that didn't work neither
[08:23] <matanya> you may, but you need to use syntax like ***** bash export SOME_PATH=/to/a/folder elfranne
[08:23] <ObrienDave> Dirk, hows it going? how much time left?
[08:23] <foofoobar> ObrienDave, Dr_willis, matanya: http://imgur.com/a6YZTPE this is the SSD. I want to decrease the HFS and increase the ubuntu
[08:24] <[nas]peter> I run a dual boot of windows 7 Ultimate and Ubuntu 12.04, does anyone know if this could cause bad IO?
[08:24] <matanya> shouldn't [nas]peter
[08:25] <elfranne> matanya, but SOME_PATH=/to/a/folder works fine ....
[08:25] <histo> [nas]peter: No bad drives cause bad IO
[08:25] <matanya> foofoobar: you can resize /dev/sda3 and move the space to ubuntu
[08:25] <[nas]peter> The drive is about a month old >.>
[08:25] <[nas]peter> and it didn't have issues running windows
[08:26] <matanya> elfranne: what are you trying to achieve?
[08:26] <histo> [nas]peter: run smartmontools
[08:26] <foofoobar> matanya: and /dev/sda2 ?
[08:27] <matanya> it is the ssd foofoobar
[08:27] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, probably you need to make sda2 smaller, slide sda3 over to the left and then make sda4 larger
[08:28] <foofoobar> ObrienDave: this is possible? :D
[08:28] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, partitions MUST be continuous
[08:28] <elfranne> matanya, unless you use export SOME_PATH=/to/a/folder that variable will not be available inside a script i launch from the crontab
[08:28] <matanya> elfranne: why don't you export it in the script itself?
[08:29] <elfranne> matanya, because i need it in the crontab
[08:29] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, yes, you don't have a lot of room to work with. look for partitionmanager. it's supposed to handle this situation a bit better. i don't know if Gparted can actually move data
[08:29] <elfranne> matanya, and used inside multiple scripts
[08:29] <chiffa> ok, problem solved: I didn't disable Secure boot, but only fastboot :S
[08:29] <chiffa> have a good day everyone
[08:30] <matanya> call the script, and in the first line export the var
[08:30] <Guest83992> I have edited /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf and also tried adding & editing /etch/dhcp3/dhcpclient.conf to add prepend domain-name-servers ..., yet /etc/resolv.conf doesn't show the dns servers
[08:30] <foofoobar> ObrienDave: I have a better idea: If I move the swap to the HDD, I can extend /dev/sda4 with the size of the swap
[08:30] <Guest83992> are the dns servers listed somewhere else now ? or is it something I am doing wrong ? help is appreciated...
[08:30] <foofoobar> this would give me additional 4GB
[08:31] <maum> does anyone know how to download the source from http://mirror.emulab.net/cygwin/
[08:31] <maum> There are a bunch of files.
[08:32] <matanya> maum: wget
[08:32] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, yes, that would work also
[08:34] <foofoobar> okay, good
[08:34] <maum> matanya: thanks.
[08:34] <[nas]peter> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[08:34] <[nas]peter> weird
[08:34] <foofoobar> matanya, ObrienDave: thanks for your help!
[08:35] <dhruvasagar> hey, can anyone help regarding prepending dns servers ?
[08:35] <matanya> np foofoobar
[08:35] <foofoobar> I will try to move the swap first, and when I'm home I can to the fsck and resize my root partition
[08:35] <dhruvasagar> I asked the question a little while ago as Guest...
[08:35] <ObrienDave> foofoobar, not a problem
[08:35] <foofoobar> because I have no livecd here
[08:36] <matanya> dhruvasagar: what do you need?
[08:36] <[nas]peter> hmm
[08:36] <ObrienDave> dhruvasagar, you can try the google public DNS servers. 8,8,8,8 and 8,8,8,4. I THINK :D
[08:36] <[nas]peter> it seems my drive isn't malfunctioning
[08:36] <dhruvasagar> matanya: I tried adding prepend domain-name-servers to /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf and restarted networking
[08:36] <ObrienDave> sorry, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:36] <dhruvasagar> ObrienDave: that I know, not my problem...
[08:36] <matanya> any output?
[08:36] <dhruvasagar> matanya: but /etc/resolv.conf doesn't reflect
[08:37] <dhruvasagar> matanya: it still doesn't list the dns servers I added...
[08:37] <matanya> why not add them directly?
[08:37] <dhruvasagar> matanya: because I want them to be added to any network that I connect to...
[08:37] <Phoenixxl> though on one side I apreciate google giving us servers for free, I can't help but be disgusted at the amount of data gathering on a person that goes on through their dns's
[08:37] <dhruvasagar> this used to work earlier
[08:38] <matanya> dhruvasagar: what is in /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:38] <dhruvasagar> Phoenixxl: well there are several alternatives
[08:38] <Phoenixxl> For my own sanity , even if they're not always the fastest , I do keep using my ISP's
[08:38] <dhruvasagar> matanya: just 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>'
[08:39] <Phoenixxl> thid id just azn observation , has nothing to do with the issiue thats being resolved here
[08:39] <ObrienDave> Phoenixxl, unless you're a hermit that can survive on cash, get used to it
[08:39] <matanya> if you add 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' won't it be solved?
[08:39] <dhruvasagar> Phoenixxl: that's the whole point of 'prepending' dns servers.  LMAO
[08:41] <matanya> [nas]peter: hdd has nothing to do with secureboot
[08:41] <maum> can someone download the files in mirror.emulab.net/cygwin ?
[08:41] <Phoenixxl> I do know┬Ą
[08:42] <histo> maum: What does that have to do with ubuntu?
[08:42] <Phoenixxl> I worked as a programmer & sys admin in a small local bank
[08:42] <ObrienDave> *bites tongue*
[08:42] <maum> histo: I tried to download that files on ubuntu by wget but it cannot be downloaded.
[08:43] <histo> maum: then try a different mirror
[08:43] <histo> maum: also why would you be downloading cygwin files on linux?
[08:43] <Phoenixxl> back in the day credit checks were done with dial up , there was a special bbs dedicate dto tit .. you give in a name , and a 8 digit code comes out
[08:43] <Phoenixxl> very creepy
[08:44] <maum> histo: there is a long story .. and there is no other mirror. but I can download the files from web. but there are a bunch of files.
[08:44] <[nas]peter> matanya, it might not have anything to do with it, but the IO was good on Windows 7
[08:44] <histo> maum: what wget command are you trying?
[08:44] <Phoenixxl> it is here.. but I try to avoid it where i still can .. i'm under no illusion i can completelkyt avoid it
[08:44] <[nas]peter> now I get ~9MB/s
[08:45] <ObrienDave> maum, i can D/L them. what's the problem?
[08:45] <histo> [nas]peter: ahh the speed not IO errors
[08:45] <histo> [nas]peter: what was the speed in m$?
[08:45] <matanya> [nas]peter: it is all other thing
[08:45] <maum> histo: wget mirror.emulab.net/cygwin
[08:45] <ObrienDave> maum, i can D/L them. what's the problem?
[08:46] <[nas]peter> histo, I used a dd command to measure the speed
[08:46] <maum> ObrienDave:  you can download all of them?
[08:46] <histo> maum: that's a html page so yes I can cl cygwin
[08:46] <ObrienDave> maum, i got the setup file and the .ini file
[08:46] <Phoenixxl> as for credit.. i'm one of those old timers that , if I want something really expensive , I put some money aside till i have enough .. *gasp*
[08:47] <[nas]peter> I also ran that test in a VM on windows
[08:47] <[nas]peter> and it got 90MB/s
[08:47] <kishy> hey
[08:47] <maum> ObrienDave: there are many files in release folder so.. I want it all.
[08:47] <bestdnd> how can i enlarge my swap file?
[08:47] <Phoenixxl> bestdnd it's a partition on linux
[08:47] <ObrienDave> then run the setup, and THEN D/L the rest of the files
[08:48] <Phoenixxl> if you have free space on your hd is's easy as pie
[08:48] <histo> maum: wget
[08:48] <Phoenixxl> if not you'll have to resize n stull .. i wouldn't recommend it unless youve done it before.. on a non critical system
[08:48] <bestdnd> can i do it on my secondary HD?
[08:48] <Phoenixxl> bestdnd, sure
[08:48] <maum> histo: can you download them by wget?
[08:48] <histo> maum:
[08:48] <histo>   maum wget  mirror.emulab.net/cygwin/setup.exe
[08:49] <dhruvasagar> histo: thanks, it works :)
[08:49] <Phoenixxl> bestdnd, if you have free spacs in the form of non partitioned room
[08:49] <maum> histo: there are other file except for setup.exe
[08:49] <bestdnd> no, i need to resize my partitions for it
[08:50] <maum> histo: http://mirror.emulab.net/cygwin/release/
[08:50] <Phoenixxl> there are ways ... but they're a bit iffy ..
[08:51] <Phoenixxl> you can DD zeroes to a file ..
[08:51] <histo> maum: http doesn't support globbing
[08:51] <Phoenixxl> then mlkswap the file
[08:51] <Phoenixxl> then swapon the file
[08:51] <Phoenixxl> i meant mkswap not mlk
[08:51] <maum> histo: i don't understand
[08:51] <bestdnd> is there a manual for it? i don't know all these commands
[08:52] <Phoenixxl> let me see
[08:52] <matanya> !swap
[08:52] <Phoenixxl> bestdnd, http://www.google.com/#safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=using+a+file+for+swap+space+linux&oq=using+a+file+for+swap+space+linux&gs_l=hp.3..33i29i30.90081.95085.1.952<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.3130.21j10.31.0...0.0.0..1c.1.12.psy-ab.5EK88KjR_uA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47008514,d.ZWU&fp=feb79b512fef99ff&biw=1664&bih=852
[08:52] <histo> matanya: try wget -m http://mirror.emulab.net/cygwin
[08:52] <bestdnd> thanks
[08:52] <vadmeste> Hello everybody. I have Ubuntu 12.04 and I cannot find fsck.ext2 though e2fslibs package is installed. Is that normal ?
[08:53] <histo> maum: try wget -m http://mirror.emulab.net/cygwin
[08:53] <Phoenixxl> it's not a very good solution though .. since evey call goes over your filesystem as well
[08:54] <histo> maum: you can add -k if you want to fix the links within the html pages that it dl's during the mirror process but that will get all your files you want. It mirrors the site.
[08:54] <Phoenixxl> bestdnd, the next hdd you put in , reserve some swap on it
[08:54] <histo> bestdnd: you can resize your current swap or make a swapfile the choice is yours
[08:54] <[nas]peter> It seems like my hardware besides the disk can't be the issue: http://pastie.org/7973051
[08:54] <maum> histo: Thanks, it works.
[08:55] <[nas]peter> my PC has SATA3
[08:56] <histo> maum: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/09/the-ultimate-wget-download-guide-with-15-awesome-examples/
[08:57] <histo> [nas]peter: what's wrong with 170MB/sec?
[08:57] <maum> histo: I see, thanks.
[08:58] <KyouReeus4nfo> join #offsec
[09:02] <[nas]peter> histo, that's everything except read/write
[09:02] <histo> [nas]peter: yes and what kind of IO do you expect to see?
[09:02] <[nas]peter> at least 60MB/s
[09:03] <histo> [nas]peter: how are you testing?
[09:03] <[nas]peter> http://pastie.org/7973123
[09:03] <histo> [nas]peter: change you block size
[09:03] <histo> s/you/your/
[09:04] <histo> [nas]peter: Increase it to like 1M
[09:04] <[nas]peter> histo, would removing SWAP also help?
[09:05] <histo> [nas]peter: I have no idea what sort of cache your drive is using. You'd have to look at the label. Typically modern disks are around a 2MB cache size. You are only writing 8k to the cache then it writes to the disk then gets another 8k etc... that is slowing down your IO using bs=8k
[09:05] <histo> [nas]peter: swap has nothing to do with your "test"
[09:06] <histo> [nas]peter: dd is not an effective test of IO performance unless you specify a bs that is equal to your cache size. I would use another tool if you don't understand.
[09:07] <parapan> hello folks; I'm using 12.04 - is there any ad-hoc webserver I can setup in ubuntu ?
[09:07] <histo> [nas]peter: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1198691/testing-io-performance-in-linux
[09:07] <matanya> parapan: apache
[09:07] <histo> parapan: what do you mean by "ad-hoc"?
[09:07] <parapan> basically i want to share some files which are larger for e-mail - 20-30 Mb
[09:08] <parapan> matanya: this is not quite with one click is it ?
[09:08] <parapan> histo
[09:08] <matanya> no, it isn't parapan
[09:08] <[nas]peter> histo, and using: System > Administration > Disk utility menu
[09:08] <DJones> parapan: If there's not too many files, have you thought about using Ubuntu One or Dropbox, both of them have a couple of GB's f storage space
[09:08] <parapan> histo: something like filezilla let's say . . . .just click , open a program and share a file .....like a FPT server ....
[09:09] <histo> parapan: what are you sharing to? windows boxes or linux boxes?
[09:10] <parapan> DJones: didn't knew about them ....just want to share few files once per month . . .
[09:10] <parapan> histo: windows quite sure
[09:10] <histo> parapan: ifyou have python installed "python -m SimpleHTTPServer [port]"
[09:10] <ObrienDave> Google Drive gives you 5GB free
[09:11] <parapan> matanya: k, you're correct, I was mistaking ....thinking on a webserver only for sharing 2-3 files ...it's not worted ..
[09:11] <ObrienDave> sorry people, bed time. good nite all
[09:11] <DJones> parapan: Dropbox should do that quite easily, just create an account, install the the app on each machine (windows and linux clients) log in and it creates a folder on each machine that you can drop files into & they'll be duplicated on each machine when they're logged in
[09:12] <histo> parapan: you should have python by default the command I gave you will start an HTTP server in the current directory so they can pull the files at the specified port.
[09:13] <parapan> histo: cool > but what will be the web address to access ???
[09:13] <parapan> DJones: thanks - it sound cool and i'll look into it ..but they want to pick up the files not to install softwares and stuff ...
[09:13] <histo> parapan: your IP address:port
[09:14] <histo> parapan: unless you do port 80 then they could just go to your IP and see the content. Is this for just local sharing or out over the internets?
[09:14] <matanya> parapan: you need to allow it your router if your
[09:14] <matanya> *if you have
[09:15] <parapan> histo: i'll try that > is over internet
[09:15] <parapan> matanya: if i'm using 80 i wont need that correct ?
[09:15] <matanya> you will need forwarding
[09:15] <histo> parapan: well you could get a free url name from places like dyndns.org or others and point it at your IP. But if you are gonig to go through all that drama for a simple http server that you are going to put up and take down etc...?
[09:16] <histo> parapan: if you want something more permanent... I would definately setup apache and a URL. Control access with .htaccess files etc...
[09:17] <DJones> parapan: Another to consider with a web server, do you have a fixed ip address? If not you'll probably need to use something like dyndns to give a fixed address for people to connect to which then goes to whatever your ip address is, that would need to be set to update if your ip address changed
[09:20] <parapan> DJones: histo: I have the permanent webserver setup with apache only not handy at the moment ....I want an extremely fast way to share a file which can be downloaded most easily via http or ftp ....
[09:20] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:21] <parapan> and maybe I can use teamviewer also ...for file transfer ...but this lwill require the install on the other PC ....
[09:21] <cristian_c> How can I switch audio from mono to stereo?
[09:21] <histo> parapan: well the temporary way with python is one option. The other option is using scp over ssh
[09:21] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[09:21] <histo> parapan: or sftp.
[09:22] <histo> parapan: basically if you want to share a file in directory /home/parapan/good_stuff  you just cd /home/parapan/good_stuff  then python -m SimpleHTTPServer   and it will start up an http server in that directory so they can pull the file. When done just hit ctrl+c to stop the server
[09:23] <histo> parapan: You need to setup port forwarding on your router to whatever port you are going to use like 8000 or 80 pointed at your internal IP address. So then they just go to yourpublic.ip:8000  or whatever and can see your files.
[09:23] <histo> parapan: portforward.com
[09:23] <histo> cristian_c: what type of audio file?
[09:24] <histo> parapan: there are many options python -m one should only be used as just a quick dirty http server to share a file then take it down.
[09:24] <SarcasticGoats> Does anyone know how to make the xrandr command run at startup?
[09:24] <histo> SarcasticGoats: create a /etc/xorg.conf
[09:25] <histo> SarcasticGoats: actually /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <cristian_c> histo, all the audio files
[09:25] <histo> cristian_c: You only have mono audio coming from your system?
[09:25] <cristian_c> histo, yes
[09:25] <SarcasticGoats> Histo: When I try xorg -configure it says fatal server error
[09:25] <histo> cristian_c: are your speakers plugged in all the way?
[09:25] <cristian_c> I don't know why
[09:26] <cristian_c> histo, i've got an headphone out
[09:26] <histo> !xorg.conf | SarcasticGoats
[09:26] <cristian_c> histo, but nothing works
[09:26] <cristian_c> :(
[09:26] <SarcasticGoats> cristian_c: Sometimes if your speaker plug isn't fully inserted into the jack then you'll only get mono
[09:26] <parapan> histo: exactly my aim ....for 20 minutes up then, down forever :D; yes, I'll need the port forwarding for sure unless I'll have a static IP; one more q - what will be the default folder for the shared files ???
[09:26] <histo> cristian_c: check by right clicking on the volume icon and going to sound properties make sure it's set to stereo duplex or whatever.
[09:27] <parapan> histo: you said something to release command python directly on the folder where the shared files are ??/
[09:27] <cristian_c> SarcasticGoats, the plug is fully inserted
[09:27] <histo> parapan: whatever directory you are in when you execute python -m SimpleHTTPServer will be served
[09:27] <histo> cristian_c: check sound properties
[09:27] <cristian_c> histo, in pavucontrol, duplex analog stereo is selected
[09:28] <histo> cristian_c: are you headphones broken?
[09:29] <cristian_c> histo, no
[09:29] <histo> cristian_c: check your left and right levels in alsamixer or some other mixer.
[09:30] <parapan> histo: how do you close python ?
[09:30] <histo> parapan: ctrl+c
[09:30] <gotwig> Please help me :( My networkusername changed for NetworkManager, and I am not anymore able to login with the new one :(   my new username is something like bg\username , my old username was username
[09:31] <gotwig> When I check the NetworkManager profile, it says even my username is bg\\username !!
[09:31] <gotwig> but it should use simply bg\username
[09:31] <gotwig> it cant use that, why?!
[09:31] <cristian_c> histo, I don't see strange things
[09:31] <cristian_c> histo, in alsmixer
[09:31] <cristian_c> *alsamixer
[09:31] <gotwig> I cant search anything for that, nothing on google at all. You cant search for one charachter at google
[09:31] <histo> cristian_c: Is this a desktop or laptop?
[09:32] <parapan> histo: a little complication : the requested url cannot be retrieved ..error 10001
[09:32] <histo> parapan: huh?
[09:32] <cristian_c> histo, left and right are at the same level in pavucontrol
[09:32] <gotwig> My simple question is: Why is NetworkManager not able to transmit my username in this form ?! "bg\username" ??
[09:32] <cristian_c> histo, laptop
[09:32] <[nas]peter> I ran Iometer and that says I have 106MB/s
[09:32] <[nas]peter> as average
[09:32] <parapan> histo: cannot be reached from internet
[09:32] <histo> parapan: did you setup the port forward?
[09:33] <histo> [nas]peter: okay so what's the problem?
[09:33] <histo> cristian_c: try the built in speakers are those in stereo?
[09:33] <parapan> yeap > on port 81 ...let me try another port
[09:33] <[nas]peter> histo, when I run apt-get update, my PC nearly crashes and all programs become darker and are non-responsive
[09:33] <gotwig> what is the best alternative to NetworkManager ?
[09:33] <matanya> gotwig: wicd
[09:33] <cristian_c> histo, I've tried headphones and external speakers
[09:33] <histo> gotwig: second wicd
[09:34] <histo> !sound | cristian_c I have no idea but try some of this
[09:34] <cristian_c> histo, I don't understand if the builtin speakers are working
[09:34] <gotwig> does wicd support every thing that NetworkManager does?
[09:34] <gotwig> what about WPA2 Enterprise Wifi access points via username and password?
[09:34] <histo> cristian_c: Perhaps a wire is loose on the jack
[09:34] <cristian_c> histo, I'll try to read these pages
[09:34] <SarcasticGoats> histo: Is there an easy guide for setting up the resolution bit of xorg.conf
[09:35] <parapan> histo: same issue : however ....the python is saying serving HTTP server on <IP_ADDRESS> on port 81 .......shouldn't <IP_ADDRESS> be the local IP ???
[09:35] <histo> gotwig: yes and there is a curses interface and applet it's up to you which you want to use.
[09:35] <SarcasticGoats> Histo: Never mind I've found one I tik
[09:35] <SarcasticGoats> Think*
[09:35]  * gotwig is very depressed. Ubuntu is so broken ...
[09:36] <histo> parapan: if you are using a port under 1000 you will need to use sudo
[09:37] <histo> parapan: actually anything below 1024 I believe.
[09:37] <parapan> histo: course I'm using sudo
[09:37] <histo> parapan: try browsing on that machine to http://localhost:portnumber
[09:39] <parapan> histo: you're the man ....the port number was too low :d
[09:39] <parapan> with the sudo it didn't worked
[09:39] <hanwentao> is there a way to select a mirror manually during installation?
[09:40] <histo> parapan: yeah anything under 1024 requires root permissions.   that's odd that with sudo it wouldn't work. Perhaps sudo -i python -m ... would work
[09:40] <parapan> histo: made the setup on port 8000 and it's working like a rocket :D
[09:40] <[nas]peter> histo, http://pastie.org/7973270
[09:40] <histo> parapan: Yeah just use port 8000 then on your router forward port 80 to port 8000 of your internal ip
[09:40] <histo> parapan: then anyone that has your IP can get those files quickly
[09:40] <squaregoldfish> gotwig: Apparently it does, but I've never used it myself.
[09:41] <histo> [nas]peter: lol what?
[09:41] <parapan> histo: I guess I should get to root first ....and after that to launch the webserver ...anyway million thanks I have learned something today from the community :D
[09:41] <histo> gotwig: ubuntu inst browken
[09:41] <[nas]peter> I timed the IO
[09:41] <histo> parapan: yeah you can use any python module from cli like that with the -m switch
[09:41] <gotwig> histo: too many stuff is not working. too many, just saying
[09:42] <parapan> histo: i recently moved from 10.4 to 12.04 do you know the reason for using Libre office now instead ooo ?
[09:42] <histo> parapan: OO forked
[09:42] <parapan> histo: first I have to know what python is ;)
[09:42] <histo> gotwig: Like what?
[09:43] <parapan> histo: "forked" ? meaning
[09:43] <histo> gotwig: It works for millions of people. Just because you are experiencing problems does not mean it's broken for all.
[09:43] <gotwig> histo: you have no idea
[09:43] <histo> parapan: the project split into two. Open Office is still there and there is LibreOffice which is a fork of it.
[09:44] <gotwig> every operating system is somehow broken
[09:44] <gotwig> and window is the most broken one
[09:44] <[nas]peter> histo, my disk has 23mb cache
[09:44] <histo> gotwig: well perhaps your definition of broken is different from 99% of the world.
[09:44] <parapan> histo: aaaa ...just like a fork with 3 "fingers"
[09:44] <histo> parapan: like a fork in the road
[09:44] <parapan> histo: that's a joke :d
[09:44] <inflex> trying to work out if I have a hardware of software fault. Have a HP Touchsmart (all in one) 600-1000 with an nVidia GT230 chipset.  Rescue linux runs fine on it so long as I use frame-buffer mode, but Ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 both just deliver a black screen after the initial text-console scrolling boot messages :(
[09:45] <histo> parapan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libreoffice has information about the fork
[09:45] <parapan> histo: k, thanks man - have a good day and see you around
[09:45] <gotwig> *windows
[09:45] <histo> !nomodeset | inflex
[09:45] <inflex> danke!
[09:46] <gotwig> histo: in fact it always is windows fault, when you use windows methods
[09:47] <cristian_c> histo, I've looked at he links you posted
[09:47] <cristian_c> histo, but I don't know what to do
[09:47] <cristian_c> :(
[09:49] <inflex> Got to say, it's rare for me to hit a GFX issue on boot with Linux these days, so that one threw me
[09:50] <histo> cristian_c: the troubleshooting one would be a good start. Although from what you are describing I bet you have an issue with hardware e.g. loose wire
[09:50] <cristian_c> histo, previously it worked
[09:50] <cjbirk> i am the plunderer
[09:50] <cjbirk> the great icelandic snow king
[09:50] <cjbirk> and i use ubuntu.
[09:51] <histo> cristian_c: previously we lived in caves
[09:51] <cristian_c> lol
[09:51] <histo> cristian_c: What has changed since then
[09:51] <cristian_c> histo, I don't know, I'll try some tries with live cd
[09:52] <cristian_c> :)
[10:01] <tom> hi all - i've got two displays, is there a way to only have one working at a time, and to switch between the tw
[10:01] <tom> o
[10:16] <amiral_> hi iwas reading a book and i found this :" As an example of the overhead of making a system call, consider the getppid()
[10:16] <amiral_> system call, which simply returns the process ID of the parent of the calling
[10:16] <amiral_> process. On one of the authorŌĆÖs x86-32 systems running Linux 2.6.25, 10 million
[10:16] <amiral_> calls to getppid() required approximately 2.2 seconds to complete. This amounts
[10:16] <amiral_> to around 0.3 microseconds per call. By comparison, on the same system, 10 million
[10:16] <amiral_> calls to a C function that simply returns an integer required 0.11 seconds, or
[10:16] <amiral_> around one-twentieth of the time required for calls to getppid()."
[10:16] <FloodBot1> amiral_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <amiral_> do really think system call make more overhead than libc function warper
[10:17] <amiral_> ??
[10:26] <minh> hello
[10:26] <Phoenixxl> amiral_, how many times would you need to get a pid in your program ..
[10:27] <Sandman> Hehe, Compiz crashed when I started XChat :)
[10:27] <Phoenixxl> amiller, stick to the advised way of doing things
[10:27] <Phoenixxl> amiller, speeding up programs should be done inside the main loop
[10:27] <Jose_Spanish> any girl want to chat with Spanish?
[10:28] <Phoenixxl> amiller, not pinching pennies off archaic system calls .
[10:29] <Phoenixxl> Jose_Spanish, the "girl" that will start the conversation will have a bigger dick than you I bet.
[10:31] <migadoo> Phoenixxl: stop pm me.
[10:31] <dsirijus> there should be #ubuntu-dating
[10:32] <rohan> Hello everyone
[10:32] <Phoenixxl> migadoo, go play with your legos http://i.imgur.com/kzyJCRs.png
[10:34] <rohan> any one tell me about interfaces file.
[10:39] <feitinge1> rohan: i can't tell it as good as "man interfaces" can.
[10:40] <Phoenixxl> rohan, if you want to mess with it , i would say , make a virtual machine , install linux on that , and have a field day
[10:41] <Phoenixxl> don't experiment on your running system
[10:41] <Phoenixxl> rohan, the chances you break it are not negligible
[10:42] <Phoenixxl> rohan, it's not as dangerous as playing with fstab but still ..
[10:48] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:51] <emka> Hi, using 10.04 LTS, how should update just the security updates?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> emka, as it's not longer supported ... can't
[10:51] <emka> is this enough?
[10:51] <emka> sudo apt-get install unattended-upgrades
[10:51] <emka> sudo unattended-upgrade
[10:51] <thunder1212> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcapi20-3_1%3a3.25+dfsg1-3wheezy1+6.0trisquel1_i386.deb: './usr/share/doc/libcapi20-3/changelog.Debian.gz' is different from the same file on the system
[10:51] <thunder1212> I got this error while installing wine on my system am suing 64bit
[10:51] <cfhowlett> emka, it's end of life, i.e. no longer supported
[10:52] <emka> ok
[10:52] <emka> so what should I do then?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> emka, upgrade to 12.04 is my recommendation.
[10:52] <emka> ouch...
[10:52] <cfhowlett> emka, is this a server?
[10:52] <emka> yes
[10:53] <emka> running a couple of web apps
[10:53] <cfhowlett> emka, consider your options.  IMHO, running a non-supported public facing server lacking supported/updates is inadvisable
[10:54] <emka> yes
[10:54] <emka> it is not mine tho...
[10:54] <emka> but I've been asked to check for what to do
[10:55] <emka> Is it "safe" to just do do-release-upgrade
[10:55] <emka> feels like that could give us a lot of problems
[10:55] <cfhowlett> emka, personally, I'd torrent 12.04, burn or USB the ISO and clean install.
[10:56] <emka> ok
[11:00] <hs_> hello , in unity-greeter , is there a specific size for the logo or any size i want ?
[11:01] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, I got 2 adsl connections (that are put into 2 routers) can I use both ? (http://askubuntu.com/questions/299018/using-multiple-internet-connections-on-ubuntu) ?
[11:01] <emka> cfhowlett: okŌĆ”and reinstall/configure everything from scratch againŌĆ” :) I don't use muppet
[11:01] <emka> Puppt*
[11:01] <cfhowlett> emka, wait
[11:02] <cfhowlett> emka, if you have your /home in a dedicated partition, you just install the system files and reinstall your apps.  your configurations will then be retained
[11:02] <cfhowlett> emka, just don't format the /home and you're good
[11:03] <hs_> hello , in unity-greeter , is there a specific size for the logo or any size i want ?
[11:03] <emka> yeah but not all apache/ruby stuff I guess
[11:04] <cfhowlett> emka, pretty sure there's a way to retain those settings ... ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:06] <fractaline> cfhowlett, can one move /home to a separate partition in preparation for clean install?
[11:06] <petervonfrosta> tvoss ping
[11:06] <gordonjcp> fractaline: yes
[11:06] <petervonfrosta> tvoss, ping
[11:07] <emka> ok
[11:07] <cfhowlett> fractaline, you can setup a /home and THEN clean install ...
[11:07] <emka> cfhowlett: Thanks! I think I have to do some reading first
[11:07] <cfhowlett> emka, best of luck.
[11:07] <emka> ty
[11:09] <guest55555_> Hi.
[11:10] <handuel> 'ello there
[11:10] <cfhowlett> fractaline, see http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[11:10] <cfhowlett> guest55555_, greetings
[11:10] <fractaline> i am running kubuntu 13.04 (which is really kubuntu-desktop installed on ubuntu) i'd like to do a clean install of 13.04 64bit...  looking for the best way
[11:11] <fractaline> cfhowlett, i'll have a look     ty
[11:12] <cfhowlett> fractaline, make your /home, torrent 13.04, make a boot usb/cdrom and install
[11:12] <guest55555_> During an installation of Ubuntu when creating LVMs - is there a way to specify GiB instead of GB? "df -h" looks so ugly after specifying "10G" during installation (as the LVM only has 9.31GiB).
[11:12] <guest55555_> Or any workaround to really have 10GiB?
[11:12] <fractaline> you mean make an empty /home??
[11:13] <hillary> what command can i use to move from one directory to another ubuntu 12.04
[11:13] <fractaline> fine for future use but how about saving settings?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> fractaline, no I meant, as in the previous link, make a dedicated /home and move your files there.  Also, back up.  of course.  then install
[11:13] <cfhowlett> hillary, cd
[11:13] <fractaline> i see
[11:13] <cfhowlett> hillary, eeks.  no.  I think it's cp
[11:14] <Leighton> hillary: cd directoryname
[11:14] <hillary> i want to move from pwd to Downloads
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Leighton, and to move the files?
[11:16] <hillary> cd /Downloads i get  bash cd: /Downloads: No such files or Directory
[11:16] <Leighton> hillary: ohhhh, I thought you meant move like change "location". cp will copy files, not move them
[11:16] <jrib> hillary: ~/Downloads
[11:17] <KyouReeus4nfo> mv
[11:17] <cfhowlett> hillary, as kyouReeus4nfo stated: mv
[11:19] <gravity__> hi
[11:19] <cfhowlett> gravity__, greetings
[11:22] <gravity__> I am using Backtrack 5, and I am on a LAN network  where we need authentification before getting connected to internet, my problem is that I am able to load download commands in the terminal, the download will not reach to the end. Thus how can I enter my authentification information in the terminal in order to download?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !bt|gravity__,
[11:22] <DJones> !backtrack | gravity__
[11:22] <hillary> cfhowlett: not working still. i use to use cd ~/Downloads but now it has refused
[11:23] <cfhowlett> hillary, within your own account?  not normal ...
[11:23] <hillary> yap within my own account
[11:24] <raincode> i'm use ubuntu 10.04. i want to write programmer language. i want to try C. how to basic write code in C without external application. in this topic i want just use gedit and terminal. can help me how to write simple C program ?.example just to write output message in terminal as "hello",help me sir
[11:24] <hillary> i run update and see what might happened
[11:24] <cfhowlett> hillary, error message?  and what exact command did your urn
[11:24] <hillary> cd ~/Downloads
[11:24] <cfhowlett> raincode, 10.04 is end of life.  not sure you want to learn programming on an unsupported OS ....
[11:25] <hillary> bash: cd: /home/hillary/Downloads: No such file or directory when i run  cd ~/Downloads
[11:25] <cfhowlett> hillary, so, just for fun, try with sudo ...
[11:25] <raincode> cfhowlett, what your mean about "10.04 is end of life"?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !eol|raincode,
[11:26] <raincode> cfhowlett, what you mean about "10.04 is end of life"?
[11:26] <auronandace> raincode: 10.04 is no longer supoorted on the desktop
[11:26] <cfhowlett> raincode, 10.04 was supported for 3 years on the desktop ...
[11:27] <raincode> so, what can i do ?,what i must use?
[11:27] <KyouReeus4nfo> gcc
[11:28] <cfhowlett> raincode, update to 12.04 is my recommendation ...
[11:28] <fractaline> cfhowlett,  what size is recommendable for the /home partition?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> fractaline, depends on your own use.  look at what you have currently and take your best guess as to future needs
[11:28] <fractaline> fair enough
[11:29] <hillary> even with sudo it has not work
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:29] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, howdy
[11:29] <BluesKaj> hey cfhowlett
[11:29] <fractaline> hey BluesKaj
[11:29] <jnaour> Hi, I have a strange problem: I use a project name ElasticSearch and I want to allow more Java Heap Space to it. So I do a "bin/elasticsearch -f -Xmx4g -Xms4g", but it doesn't work. When I launch the exact same command in root mode it works, there is 4g allowed to ElasticSearch JVM. Is there some perms configuration that could limit the memory that I can allow to it in user mode?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> hey fractaline
[11:30] <raincode> cfhowleft, you recomend me to update, that mean i must update from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 OR i remove ubuntu 10.04 then install new to 12.04??
[11:30] <jnaour> named*
[11:30] <cfhowlett> raincode, no need to remove anything.  torrent 12.04, make a boot usb/cdrom and clean install.  OR you could try direct upgrade assuming your software sources are set to LTS only
[11:31] <auronandace> raincode: up to you (i prefer a fresh install, less can go wrong)
[11:31] <cfhowlett> raincode, but I'd definitely go with torrent/clean install rather than software upgrade
[11:31] <handuel> raincode: ignoring 10.04 being EOL, this is the same in all versions sudo apt-get install binutils build-essential to install the compiler. Hello world program #include <stdio.h> int main(int argc, char* argv[]){printf("Hello\n"); return 0;} to compile gcc nameofcfile.c -o test to run ./test
[11:32] <cfhowlett> handuel, true but he's learning coding ... on an unsupported OS.  Just don't seem right, somehow.
[11:33] <handuel> cfhowlett: yes, but I'm just answering his question, he should still update, but I'm saying that is what he should do, on any version, even once he updates
[11:33] <cfhowlett> handuel, understood.  thanks for clarifying
[11:33] <cfhowlett> handuel, and that's a sweet bit of coding you wrote
[11:34] <handuel> cfhowlett: sarcasm?
[11:34] <guest55555_> Noone that can help with my LVM/GiB/GB question? :-)
[11:34] <cfhowlett> handuel, not the least.
[11:34] <KyouReeus4nfo> I would just do echo Hello
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !cookie|handuel,
[11:35] <handuel> Thanks :)
[11:35] <handuel> guest55555_ if you click something else when installing, can't you just manually set the partition size
[11:36] <guest55555_> i *can* specify 10G - but this will by 10 gigabyte and not 10 gibibyte
[11:36] <guest55555_> s/by/be/
[11:36] <raincode> handuel, thx for your code in C. i'm usually using python, but i want to learn high to low programming language as C, but assembly i delay its caused i want learn one by one.
[11:36] <raincode> cfhowleft thx for your sugestion
[11:37] <cfhowlett> raincode, best of luck
[11:37] <raincode> maybe if i have time, i thinking about your solution
[11:37] <handuel> raincode: fair enough, quite obviously there are more human readable ways of writing that, (new lines and indentation and such, however all on one line would work.)
[11:38] <raincode> for all , i'm so sorry if my english is not good,so i just to try communication with you all here
[11:38] <cfhowlett> raincode, we understood fine
[11:39] <raincode> thx, cfhowlett . .
[11:39] <handuel> raincode: ur english is great!  I've met less gramatically correct born and bread british teens
[11:39] <ichat> quick question
[11:40] <raincode> your solution is True for our system security and to future,
[11:40] <scotty^> lol
[11:40] <ichat> how can i  get back the behavior of   ctrl + alt +  backspace
[11:40] <DJones> ichat: To restart X?
[11:40] <ichat> DJones,  yes
[11:41] <DJones> ichat: There is an option in one of the system setting to enable that, give me a minute to see if I can find it
[11:41] <handuel> settings->keyboard->shortcuts->system edit logout to be ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:41] <hillary> something wrong with nu cd command ubuntu 12.04
[11:41] <DJones> ichat: See what handuel They got it
[11:42] <DJones> ichat: See what handuel just put, they got it
[11:42] <hillary> i try cd ~/Downloads or any directory it says no such file or directory
[11:42] <ichat> handuel,  tnx
[11:44] <cfhowlett> hillary, try ls to see your options
[11:46] <hongxuchen> exit
[11:47] <hillary> ls displays what is in pwd
[11:48] <scotty^> ichat - a better option is described in the last answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/10622/how-can-i-enable-ctrlaltbackspace
[11:48] <raincode> sir, can give me sugestion , priority language that we must learn in ubuntu?
[11:48] <raincode> c or python?
[11:49] <scotty^> hillary - You want cd $HOME/Downloads
[11:49] <hillary> yes
[11:50] <scotty^> ichat - that way you can still really logout via the keyboard and zap the xserver
[11:52] <hillary> Sorry guys my Downloads directory was wrongly moved by me to Documents directory. Things working ok after moving it to home
[11:53] <cfhowlett> hillary, live and learn
[11:53] <rahmspinat_of_do> Hey there, does someone know how to disable desktop effects in Mint via Terminal?
[11:53] <lasers> !mint | rahmspinat_of_do
[11:54] <rahmspinat_of_do> mhkaythx
[11:54] <raincode> sir, how to diet our system?,its hard for process,.slow not quick process,
[11:54] <handuel> rahmspinaat_of_do: look into controlling gconf through the terminal, to find the exact keys go and ask on mint help
[11:54] <hillary> i need to extract a .zip file from downloads folder to /var/www/. what is the command? ubuntu 12.04
[11:55] <raincode> what wrong with me ?i'm install ubuntu using wubi.exe
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> raincode: its not a long term solution, its a try before you buy
[11:56] <raincode> my cdroom is error, how to move our ubuntu manualy without wubi.exe
[11:56] <cfhowlett> raincode, see, there's your problem right there ... wubi
[11:56] <handuel> raincode: do you own a usb stick
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hillary: install unp and then run: cd /var/www; sudo unp ~/Download/filename.zip
[11:56] <NewUbuntu007> hello Ubuntu world, as a new Ubuntu user I face an issue in connecting to internet from the newly installed Ubuntu 13.04. Is this the right channel to post this type of question?
[11:56] <handuel> NewUbuntu007: yes
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> NewUbuntu007: yes this is the right channel
[11:56] <bsk> hillary: unzip ~/Downloads/my-file.zip -d /var/www
[11:56] <raincode> yes i have but my bios cannot support boot from usb
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !details|NewUbuntu007, yes.
[11:57] <cfhowlett> raincode, what?  how old is this computer?
[11:57] <handuel> how fr*ggin clever is that bot, how does it realise that information wasn't given :D
[11:57] <raincode> not old, travelmate 4020
[11:57] <bsk> hillary: remember that you must have write permissions on the destination folder
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> bsk: or use sudo, easier
[11:58] <ichat> handuel,  -   log-off is not the same as restarting the x server  specially not forcefully...  the reason for wanting ctrl+at+backspace was   that i had a game that crashed and set my  unity resolution to  640x480 ... and    i coul not even see the top pannel any more...
[11:58] <handuel> ichat: use alt+sysrq+k then
[11:58] <jrib> handuel: probably safe to assume that's always the case ;)
[11:58] <NewUbuntu007> Thanks - handuel, ActionParsnip, cfhowlett and ubottu. The problem is when I connect to internet from my Ubuntu computer, I am not able to connect via the network cable. I used the same physical connection with my Windows machine and it works.
[11:59] <ichat> what is  sysrq?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> NewUbuntu007: can you ping your routr's internal IP?
[11:59] <bsk> ActionParsnip: whatever..
[11:59] <handuel> a key on your keyboard, often on the same thing as print-screen, you might have to hold fn or similar to be able to use it.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> ichat: or run:  killall -u $USER     same deal :)
[11:59] <NewUbuntu007> ActionParnsnip - Yes, its <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> NewUbuntu007: if you ping <IP_ADDRESS> does it ping ok?
[12:01] <NewUbuntu007> ActionParnsnip: sorry, its <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:02] <NewUbuntu007> ActionParsnip: Destination Host Unreachable is the output.
[12:02] <raincode> i want to migrate total from xp to unix.for this time my condition: C:\\ <<==xp,.(ntfs)  D:\\<<==ubuntu but with wubi.exe shown:4 virtual disk,  . can we change ubuntu wubi version, to ubuntu totality in D:\\??
[12:02] <RedBlade7> hi
[12:02] <NewUbuntu007> ActionParsnip: (Curious question) What does it mean when we ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:02] <RedBlade7> i set up kubuntu
[12:03] <RedBlade7> and then tried to install the amd drivers via the menu
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> NewUbuntu007: its a IP outside of your LAN
[12:03] <RedBlade7> but now it says "unsupported hardware" and locks up
[12:03] <gordonjcp> raincode: You'd need to remove the D: partition, Unix doesn't use MSDOS drives
[12:03] <ichat> hmmmm,
[12:03] <rahmspinat_of_do> NewUbuntu007: its googles dns server which is a very prominent ip that is propably always up
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> NewUbuntu007: does it reply?
[12:03] <RedBlade7> (there were two of them listed, i must've picked the wrong one)
[12:03] <RedBlade7> so now i cant boot
[12:03] <RedBlade7> how do i boot into text mode?
[12:03] <RedBlade7> recovery console forces read-only
[12:03] <RedBlade7> so i cant do anything
[12:04] <RedBlade7> also, there's no xorg.conf
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> RedBlade7: hold SHIFT at boot and boot to root recovery mode, then run:  mount -o rw,remount /