[06:14] <ells> coreDumped: i just checked and it had nv in the xorg.conf, I changed it "nvidia"
[06:14] <crimsun> dts: Riddell's in change of that since he's working on Kubuntu, so I'll ask him about it.
[06:15] <ells> geneo93, whats that
[06:15] <coreDumped69> change it to nvidia and restart x
[06:15] <dts> crimsun, do you have a bug tracking system where i should report it or should i just wait here?
[06:15] <geneo93> its a small demo
[06:15] <ells> coredumped, since I changed it from "nv" to "nvidia" i should be good right
[06:16] <ells> geneo93, shoudl I try that
[06:16] <coreDumped69> after restarting x, give it a try
[06:16] <corza> could someone help me change what my mouse buttons dO?
[06:16] <geneo93> ell nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:16] <ells> geneo93, here is what is said root@stevesnetwork:/ # glxgears
[06:16] <ells> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:16] <ells> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[06:16] <crimsun> dts: eventually we'll have a new one in place, but for now, please ask on the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[06:17] <ells> geneo93, what is this saying
[06:17] <geneo93> ells:  its not enabled then
[06:17] <ells> geneo93, okay what next then
[06:17] <geneo93> do that other command i gave you
[06:18] <protocol> hey all
[06:18] <corza> argh my mouse is really pissing me off can someone please help me?
[06:18] <ells> geneo: nvidia-glx-config enable?
[06:18] <geneo93> ells:  after that ctrl alt backspace
[06:18] <protocol> anyone in here using enlightenment DR17 (E17) here?
[06:19] <geneo93> yes
[06:19] <protocol> geneo93, you are?
[06:19] <josue> hey guys,
[06:19] <josue> sorry
[06:19] <corza> can someone help me with my MOUSE??
[06:19] <geneo93> protocol:  long time linux user
[06:19] <protocol> corza, what problem are you having
[06:19] <corza> protocol: my mouse buttons arent doing their right function
[06:20] <corza> protocol: my scroller is going Back and Forward and my Back and Forward Buttons are doing my scrollers job
[06:20] <dts> crimsun, are you asking riddel right now, or should i do it?
[06:20] <protocol> geneo93, thing is I'm trying to install it via apt-get but I'm getting a broken pipe error because deps are conflicting; libecore0 and libecore1 and libevas0 and libevas2
[06:20] <crimsun> dts: I've pinged him, but it's Saturday night, and he's probably busy.
[06:21] <protocol> corza, what kind of mouse you got?
[06:21] <dts> crimsun, :-D ok, how do i sign up for the ubuntu-devel list
[06:21] <geneo93> protocol:  apt-get -f install should fix it
[06:21] <corza> protocol: Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer V3.0
[06:21] <protocol> geneo93, tried that....doesn't work :P That's where I get the broken pipe error
[06:22] <ells> well, my ut2004 works, but no sound
[06:22] <crimsun> dts: instructions are here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
[06:22] <geneo93> protocol:  what do you have warty or hoary
[06:22] <protocol> geneo93, hoary
[06:22] <ells> geneo93, my ut2004 now works with the card, but no sound
[06:22] <dts> crimsun, or alternatively should i report to the python integration team?
[06:22] <geneo93> you have all the repos. enabled
[06:23] <crimsun> dts: both (I'm on that team).
[06:23] <ells> geneo93: you talking to me
[06:23] <protocol> corza, thats usb or ps/2?
[06:23] <protocol> geneo93, yup
[06:23] <dts> crimsun, do they have a seperate mailing list? (i'd like to join that team btw, i'm pretty good with python)
[06:23] <corza> protocol: its connected to my ps/2 but it has a usb->ps/2 converter
[06:24] <crimsun> dts: nope, there's no mailing list
[06:24] <geneo93> hmm i had that problem when i upgraded to hoary but dont remember what i did to fix it
[06:24] <geneo93> protocol:  maybe crimsun can help you
[06:24] <crimsun> err?
[06:24] <crimsun> sec, need to read scrollback :)
[06:24] <protocol> crimsun, any ideas?
[06:25] <protocol> crimsun, thing is I'm trying to install it via apt-get but I'm getting a broken pipe error because deps are conflicting; libecore0 and libecore1 and libevas0 and libevas2
[06:25] <crimsun> protocol: for e17?  It's preferred that you build from cvs.
[06:25] <corza> protocol: its connected to my ps/2 but it has a usb->ps/2 converter
[06:26] <geneo93> protocol:  i think i have to remove package first that used them
[06:26] <protocol> crimsun, lol it's "preferred"...I don't want through go through all that :P
[06:26] <dts> crimsun, how is the python team organized (if at all)
[06:26] <protocol> geneo93, ?
[06:26] <geneo93> remove the old and install the new
[06:26] <crimsun> dts: afaik, there's no "team" (I was referring earlier to the MOTUs, not a specific python team)
[06:27] <crimsun> dts: please feel free to read http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/MOTU
[06:27] <protocol> geneo93, did all that... I don't understand tho why e17 needs both libecore0 and libecore1 as well as libevas0 and libevas2
[06:28] <geneo93> backwards compat maybe
[06:28] <protocol> corza, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=2&threadid=292726  <--- check that out might help
[06:28] <crimsun> protocol: I haven't used E since the DR15 days, so I'm fairly rusty on its specific, current packaging
[06:29] <protocol> crimsun, it's ok dude...thanks tho ;)
[06:29] <jimarko> hey all
[06:29] <crimsun> protocol: what package(s) specifically are you attempting to install?
[06:29] <dts> crimsun, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/teams/
[06:29] <geneo93> crimsun:  your beeter off then me i never used it at all
[06:30] <protocol> crimsun, everything enlightenment (E17) asks for.  but only 4 (or 2 really) are givin' me trouble
[06:30] <crimsun> dts: oh duh, that.
[06:30] <geneo93> ells:  you have alsamixer
[06:31] <kpeterson> hey, I am having some trouble with file sending/recieving on the AIM protocol using GAIM.  My attempts all fail or time out.  Any suggestions?
[06:31] <ells> geneo: I can check
[06:31] <crimsun> dts: unfortunately keybuk doesn't appear to be online; he's the leader of that
[06:31] <geneo93> just type that in terminal ells
[06:32] <GhostFreeman> Is there a way I can run a terminal on my desktop, like with KDE
[06:32] <geneo93> ells:  ifso check settings
[06:32] <ells> geneo93, okay
[06:32] <geneo93> yes GhostFreeman
[06:32] <GhostFreeman> How would I?
[06:33] <ells> geneo93, it is installed
[06:33] <helloyo> how come many of my videoclips don't have a previews? even though seemingly identical ones have a preview... any help?
[06:33] <geneo93> GhostFreeman:  click on menu ten system and its in that group
[06:34] <geneo93> GhostFreeman:  i added applet to task bar
[06:35] <ells> geneo93, should I be looking at anything in here
[06:35] <giard> evening
[06:35] <geneo93> the digital i/o
[06:35] <giard> anyone using hoary have problems getting tomboy running recently?
[06:36] <ells> geneo93: whats the i/o
[06:36] <Vjaz> giard: Seems to be working for me.
[06:36] <giard> (I can't tell if it's just my configuration or something more general)
[06:36] <geneo93> input output
[06:36] <giard> Vjaz: oh good, it must just be me
[06:36] <ells> geneo: I dont see anything resembling that in here though, there is 3d and such
[06:37] <geneo93> whats muted
[06:37] <Vjaz> giard: Heh, seems like I just crashed it though when trying to see "About Tomboy"
[06:37] <ells> geneo93: looks like 3d and mic
[06:37] <geneo93> i'll have m in place of volume control
[06:37] <Vjaz> giard: Other than that, it has been working fine.
[06:37] <ells> okay
[06:38] <kpeterson> i just installed ubuntu, but when i try to send/recieve files with my AIM buddies, it does not work.  It worked before I installed linux. Does anyone have experience with this kind of problem
[06:38] <ells> geneo93: mic boost and 3d control
[06:38] <ells> and iec958
[06:38] <ells> whatever that it
[06:38] <ells> is
[06:38] <xquizit> Hi, I seem to have a prob using the xfce4 graphical installer, it seems i'm missing "Session management library" and "X pixmap library" but I searched on ubuntuforums and installed what I was suppose to, but still nothing.
[06:39] <geneo93> well sometimes it does that i lost all my sound till i rebooted
[06:39] <ells> geneo93, what ya think
[06:39] <giard> Vjaz: I can't seem to install it and run it now
[06:39] <ells> will be right back then
[06:39] <goldfish> xquizit: you can install it from synaptic
[06:39] <goldfish> xfce that is
[06:39] <xquizit> goldfish, no I can't I get way too many deps
[06:39] <goldfish> ah right
[06:40] <xquizit> goldfish, I noticed someone got it working on hoary, but I would like to keep warty without using the backports.
[06:41] <goldfish> ah right
[06:41] <crimsun> xquizit: how did you install xfce4?
[06:41] <crimsun> xquizit: apt-get install xfce4  should have sufficed
[06:41] <xquizit> crimsun, i'm trying right now using the gui installer, I did that but got a whole lot of deps :/
[06:42] <crimsun> xquizit: oh, that's the long way around
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> The Application "gnome-volume-manager" has quit unexpectedly.
[06:42] <crimsun> xquizit: do you specifically want 4.2?
[06:42] <crimsun> xquizit: using ,,sudo apt-get install xfce4'' installs 4.0.6
[06:42] <xquizit> not I just apt-get install xcfe4
[06:43] <xquizit> crimsun, do I need to type sudo apt-get install xfce42? or 4.2?
[06:43] <kpeterson> can anyone point me to a good guide to installing MPlayer on Warty?
[06:44] <goldfish> kpeterson: ubuntuguide.org i think has it
[06:44] <crimsun> xquizit: does xfce4 not work when you choose XFce from GDM's Session menu?
[06:44] <geneo93> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <xquizit> crimsun, I can't even install it
[06:45] <xquizit> also i'm using a fresh install of ubuntu
[06:45] <giard> Vjaz: you're running hoary, right?
[06:45] <Vjaz> giard: Yes.
[06:46] <Vjaz> giard: Currently with all the latest packages too.
[06:46] <rbnhck> hi
[06:46] <xquizit> crimsun, is there anything I can do to install xfce4?
[06:47] <crimsun> xquizit: have you enabled the universe repository?
[06:47] <xquizit> yes I have
[06:47] <rbnhck> SIS305 DRI in ubuntu warty?
[06:47] <crimsun> xquizit: (and run Reload in Synaptic, or sudo apt-get update ?)
[06:47] <xquizit> I have also added this to my sources deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
[06:47] <xquizit> deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing mai
[06:48] <kpeterson> goldfish: I was not able to find it on ubuntuguide.org
[06:50] <kpeterson> geneo93: I followed that guide, but even after adding all the necesary repositories, I get errors when trying apt-get (some of the dependent libraries are not available it seems)
[06:51] <crimsun> xquizit: did you run ,,sudo apt-get update''?
[06:51] <ells> anyone know why my mp3 wont work. any special driver i need
[06:51] <geneo93> kpeterson:  i getting it now just fine
[06:51] <MacPlusG3> ells: see Restircted formats in the wiki
[06:51] <xquizit> crimsun, yes I did I even did it again now, and I got the same results
[06:51] <MacPlusG3> ells: mp3 is patent encumbered, so there's extra hoops to jump through.
[06:51] <geneo93> kpeterson:  apt-get update
[06:51] <ells> MacPlusG3: I mean, I thought I had all the drivers I needed
[06:52] <crimsun> xquizit: please paste the error onto http://pastebin.ca
[06:52] <xquizit> ok
[06:52] <ells> MacPlusG3: I have gstreamer, and w32 codecs. what else
[06:52] <MacPlusG3> ells: you want the lame packages (including the gstreamer ones)
[06:53] <MacPlusG3> ells: LAME = Lame is not An MP3 Encoder
[06:53] <ells> MacPlusG3: how many lames are there
[06:53] <MacPlusG3> ells: although it is
[06:53] <ells> MacPlusG3: thought I had that one, will check
[06:53] <MacPlusG3> ells: not that many... a search in the package manager should only show up a few. (granted it's been a while since i installed it)
[06:53] <xquizit> crimsun, here it is http://pastebin.ca/8300
[06:53] <geneo93> ells get all the gstreamer packages
[06:54] <ells> MacPlusG3: okay
[06:54] <MacPlusG3> ells: sholud be something like gstreamer0.8-lame
[06:54] <kpeterson> geneo93: I did do that, still having the problem. Specifically, it says that libarts, libdvdread, and others have unresolvable dependencies.  Are you using warty and trying to install the 386 version?
[06:55] <ells> MacPlusG3, shouldnt the gstreamer0.8-plugins do the trick, will all the plugins
[06:55] <geneo93> no 586 version
[06:55] <geneo93> mines done
[06:55] <MacPlusG3> ells: i think it does. check the wiki, it's memory is less rusty than mine :)
[06:56] <ells> MacPlusG3, just cant for the life of me, understand why I cannot get any sound from my mp3 or ut2004
[06:56] <crimsun> xquizit: and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:56] <xquizit> ok
[06:56] <geneo93> MacPlusG3:  i dunno kde played mine just fine by default install
[06:57] <xquizit> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/8301
[06:58] <MacPlusG3> geneo93: haven't used kde in about 5 years :)
[06:58] <kpeterson> geneo93: any clue what my problem might be?
[06:58] <crimsun> xquizit: that's because you're running warty
[06:58] <geneo93> nope i went right to hoary when i installed this time
[06:58] <xquizit> crimsun, do I really have to use hoary then
[06:59] <crimsun> xquizit: nope. Just comment out (or remove) the os-works lines, update, and install xfce4
[06:59] <geneo93> kpeterson:  you have broadband
[06:59] <xquizit> crimsun, but that installes and old version 4.0
[07:00] <crimsun> xquizit: you'd need to install a lot of libraries to compile 4.2
[07:00] <kpeterson> genoe93: Im not sure I understand.  Are you asking me if I do? If so, then yes.
[07:00] <crimsun> xquizit: 4.0.6 is not very old
[07:00] <kreze1> I just upgraded from Debian Sid to Ubuntu Hoary, and I've lost all the icons on my Gnome desktop. How can I recreate them?
[07:00] <xquizit> crimsun, ok what if I upgraded to hoary, would it work then?
[07:01] <crimsun> xquizit: yes, with os-works
[07:01] <geneo93> kpeterson:  chage your repositories to hoary then and get lastest ubuntu
[07:01] <xquizit> ok then, well thank you for your help :D
[07:01] <crimsun> np
[07:03] <kpeterson> geneo93: Is that a wise choice at this point anyways? I will not experience other problems from updating, will I?
[07:03] <geneo93> not really
[07:03] <kpeterson> Is it worth it?
[07:03] <geneo93> gnome menu editer is broken is about all iirc
[07:04] <geneo93> kpeterson:  yes
[07:05] <corza> hey guys i installed skype ( i think well it comes up in the applications anyway ) and when i click on it it doesnt do anything
[07:05] <pablo928> Has anyone made an educated guess at how many computers are now running Ubuntu?
[07:05] <corza> an educated guess?
[07:05] <geneo93> corza:  call it from terminal and see what that says
[07:06] <chavo> pablo928, well there's 1 at my house.
[07:06] <corza> geneo93: how do i do that
[07:06] <pablo928> There's two at mione
[07:06] <geneo93> just type skype in terminal
[07:06] <corza> k
[07:07] <chavo> hmm, that's at least 3 so far.
[07:07] <corza> k it says
[07:07] <corza> geneo93: libqt-mt.so.3 cannot be shared object file no such file or directory
[07:07] <corza> should i go and download the thing?
[07:08] <pablo928> Just curious. For a very new distro seems like it's getting a lot of attention.
[07:08] <geneo93> yeah do a search for that in synaptic
[07:08] <corza> yeah i just did it didnt work
[07:08] <corza> pablo928: its because its good
[07:08] <geneo93> use diff than name the
[07:08] <chavo> pablo928, yes, it is pretty awesome. Actually running kubuntu here.
[07:09] <corza> chavo: shame on you :P
[07:09] <geneo93> corza:  it maybe in description
[07:09] <corza> geneo: downloading a few now see if it works
[07:09] <pablo928>  corza:It's my first experience with linux. So far, very good.
[07:10] <corza> pablo928: its about my fourth or fifth and by far the best
[07:10] <corza> geneo93: k its working now
[07:10] <geneo93> cool
[07:11] <pablo928>  corza:Now, about the only time i boot windows is to upgrade antivirus and spyware programs.
[07:11] <rafael> HI
[07:11] <synd> hey guys i got the live version of hoary on disk and when i boot up with it on my PPC, it loads up with a split screen down
[07:12] <odie5533> Are there any decent C/C++/Java IDE's besides Eclipse?  I tried both and settled on gnome.
[07:19] <kpeterson> geneo93: Thank you for your help, but I am new to Linux and I think I will stick with Warty because I assume there is more documentation about it/problems with it.
[07:19] <jeavis> hello
[07:19] <jeavis> where I have a doc for hoary ubuntu
[07:19] <jeavis> like
[07:19] <corza> pablo928: its ok but i rather gnome way better its much more useful
[07:20] <jeavis> http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:20] <geneo93> kpeterson:  in one week hoary will be released
[07:20] <Caveman> guys got a quick question, can one upgrade from one release to the next with apt ?
[07:20] <geneo93> kpeterson:  its really nice now
[07:21] <kpeterson> geneo93: I just mean things like ubuntuguide.org, they seem to be geared towards warty, you know?
[07:21] <geneo93> Caveman:  yes
[07:21] <corza> pablo928: thanks dude i just realised i could use my keyboard :)
[07:21] <Caveman> geneo93: wonderful, thanks :)
[07:21] <geneo93> kpeterson:  it will change soon
[07:21] <corza> Caveman: off of Yahoo??
[07:21] <Caveman> corza: nope, I dont have yahoo
[07:22] <corza> ah ok nevermind then
[07:22] <kpeterson> geneo93: *sigh* fine
[07:22] <geneo93> Caveman:  if you have gaim you can have
[07:22] <pablo928>  corza:When I set mine up I found most of my keys i could assign a function to
[07:22] <Caveman> yeah I have gaim,
[07:22] <corza> pablo928: yeah me too i cant for some but most i can :)
[07:22] <geneo93> kpeterson:  most everybody here has made the change
[07:23] <Caveman> I think msn, irc, aim, jabber and irc are enough.
[07:23] <corza> pablo928: i assigned my media ones to it and thats about all i use anyway
[07:23] <corza> Caveman: no it just that i met a guy in Yahoo Chat a while ago with 'caveman' as his user
[07:23] <jeavis> where I can get info for hoary like http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:23] <Caveman> corza: fair enough :)
[07:24] <corza> Caveman: sure is :P where ya from?
[07:24] <pablo928>  corza:i added a firefox launcher shortcut, but i never fremember to use it
[07:24] <AcidWolf> brb reboot
[07:24] <Br34ch> By average, how long does it take for the CDs to be transported from the day it's ordered?
[07:24] <Caveman> corza: australia
[07:24] <corza> pablo928: yeah i just use the launcher on the top next to the system dropdown menu thing
[07:24] <Caveman> you ?
[07:24] <corza> Caveman: yes QLD
[07:24] <Caveman> Oh sydney here.
[07:25] <Caveman> first time in the channel in fact..
[07:25] <corza> Caveman: make that NQLD then :P lol.. kicked bulldogs ass last week
[07:25] <kpeterson> geneo93: Once I change my repositories list, how do i get everything to update?
[07:25] <Caveman> long time debian user..
[07:25] <corza> Caveman: kicked Warriors ass today
[07:25] <Caveman> however its lost its way :)
[07:25] <Caveman> corza: haha don't remind me :P
[07:25] <corza> Caveman: =D
[07:26] <corza> Caveman: yeah i've used a few distros none compare to Ubuntu for sure
[07:26] <geneo93> ok best way is to do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade kpeterson
[07:26] <Caveman> corza: yeah, I am happy with my current setup, however its just too much of a pain in the ass to get off the ground.
[07:26] <Caveman> the installer is a pain in the ass.
[07:26] <Caveman> debian installer that is.
[07:27] <corza> Caveman: yeah it is
[07:27] <corza> Caveman: i found the Ubuntu installer piss easy
[07:27] <Caveman> seems that ubuntu is debian with all the bad bits removed :)
[07:27] <corza> Caveman: it was like heaven on an installer lol except it had no graphical.. that was the only downside
[07:27] <geneo93> but its worth not giving your money to microsoft
[07:27] <Caveman> corza: thats nice to hear.
[07:27] <Caveman> corza: bugger
[07:28] <kpeterson> geneo93: sorry could have looked that one up.  I sure hope MPlayer install works after this :-P
[07:28] <corza> do u think its ever worth giving ur money to microsoft lol
[07:28] <Caveman> how does the instaler deal with things like nvidia cards ?
[07:28] <corza> giving ur money to microsoft is like giving ur money to telstra
[07:28] <corza> i hate telstra so much
[07:28] <Caveman> corza: yep, me too.
[07:28] <corza> Caveman: i'm a NODE :)
[07:28] <Caveman> I am with optus, almost as bad..
[07:28] <corza> Caveman: internode all the way
[07:28] <Caveman> cool
[07:29] <corza> Caveman: its excellent just got adsl enabled in my exchange the other day. they are fast reliable and the customer support is great
[07:29] <Caveman> NICE :D
[07:29] <Caveman> I am too far from my exchange for adsl
[07:29] <corza> Caveman: and the best thing is the unmetered content.. it has a mirror for ubuntu.. so all my updates and everything are UNMETERED :) lol
[07:29] <Caveman> haha
[07:29] <Caveman> very useful.
[07:29] <corza> it is
[07:30] <Caveman> can ubuntu run kde ?
[07:30] <Caveman> I know the default is gnome.
[07:30] <corza> it can
[07:30] <Caveman> but I am gussing apt-get install kde fixes that?
[07:30] <jeavis> heit
[07:30] <geneo93> Caveman:  yes do a apt-get install kde
[07:30] <corza> or Synaptic.. i find synaptic to be my buddy
[07:30] <jeavis> where I can watch docs for hoary
[07:30] <Caveman> hehe yeah
[07:30] <Caveman> its a good tool.
[07:30] <Caveman> does ubuntu have aptitude ?
[07:31] <SiRrUs> Caveman take a  look in the topic
[07:31] <corza> yeah its weird coz i read a review somewhere that said it was 'hard to use' and i was sketchy of using it then i got into it and i was like wow this is easy lol
[07:31] <Caveman> SiRrUs: about kubuntu ?
[07:31] <SiRrUs> Caveman yep
[07:32] <Caveman> yeah I saw that.
[07:32] <Caveman> nice to see its coming with kde 3.4
[07:32] <geneo93> Caveman:  its great
[07:32] <Caveman> geneo93: you using it ?
[07:32] <geneo93> yes
[07:32] <Caveman> cool.
[07:33] <geneo93> watching SNL here on computer
[07:33] <Caveman> I have a friend who is getting into linux, and I was thinking of debian, but that installer is just too much.. but ubuntu looks ideal.
[07:33] <httpdss> how can i change the font size of qt designer ???
[07:34] <geneo93> maybe you need qt-config
[07:34] <ells> anyone know why I cannot get mp3s to play in linux
[07:34] <geneo93> ells get kde
[07:35] <ells> geneo93, will that make a difference
[07:35] <geneo93> well it played them witout all the other stuff right off
[07:35] <corza> argh my keyboard shortcuts arent working for xmms
[07:35] <theantix> geneo93: why are you giving such poor advice?  he wants to play mp3s not install kde
[07:35] <ells> geneo93: will try that
[07:35] <Caveman> ells: what player you using ?
[07:36] <theantix> ells: do you want to play mp3s in rhymbox?
[07:36] <ruffian> Hi
[07:36] <corza> eek rhythem box is shit!!
[07:36] <geneo93> theantix:  its not poor advice for newbe
[07:36] <Kazuhiro> Any one working on documenting setting up a chroot with more newbie friendly instructions?
[07:36] <ells> theantix, I would like to, yes
[07:36] <Cube-ness> anybody know why lately in hoary xorg is ay slow.. screen updtes and such?  it never used to be that way.  i stil have hw ogl and such, but the screeen is very unresponsive in both gnome and kde
[07:36] <Cube-ness> hi geneo93
[07:36] <corza> ells: get xmms dude
[07:36] <Caveman> ells:  I don't know much about ubuntu but I have used linux a long time and I fail to see how installing kde will help :)
[07:36] <ruffian> I am trying to install the fglrx driver, but it gives me two options,  xorg-driver-fglrx 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu8
[07:36] <ruffian>   xfree86-driver-fglrx 4.3.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu8
[07:36] <geneo93> hey Cube-ness
[07:36] <ells> corza, xmms locks up on me every single time
[07:36] <corza> ells: really??
[07:37] <ells> corza, yeap
[07:37] <Megabyte405> ruffian: choose the xorg one if you use hoary, xfree86 if you're warty.
[07:37] <theantix> ells: you want to install the gstreamer plugin to play mp3s, the package name is gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:37] <ruffian> Megabyte405: Thank you
[07:37] <ells> Caveman, I am upset that none of my mpe will work
[07:37] <ells> theantix, installed
[07:37] <corza> ells: geez, worked like a charm for me coz i couldnt get my .mp3 files working on rhythembox and i added that package
[07:37] <Megabyte405> not a problem.
[07:37] <Megabyte405> later all
[07:37] <ells> corza, i have all the gstreamer installed
[07:37] <corza> ells: i tried everything to get mp3 files working on it lol but yeah have u tried mplayer?
[07:37] <Caveman> ells: hm ok, do you get any error from your player ?
[07:37] <jeavis> How I can intall emacs
[07:38] <corza> ells: i believe you, because it didnt resolve it for me either
[07:38] <theantix> ells: you then might need to login/logout of gnome, or run gsr-register
[07:38] <Caveman> can you run it command line and see if it tosses something back.
[07:38] <ells> Caveman, hold one and I will get it for ya
[07:38] <geneo93> Cube-ness:  my kde is very quick and i have all the updates
[07:38] <Caveman> also try that gsr-register thing.
[07:38] <ells> theantix, what is gsr-register
[07:38] <tritium> ells, I looked for you when I logged in.
[07:38] <SiRrUs> ells what are you using for your sound output plugin
[07:38] <ells> tritium: Mike am I ever having issues
[07:38] <theantix> ells: from the command line type "gst-register", that registers the gstreamer plugins you have installed
[07:38] <tritium> ells, now what?  nvidia still?
[07:38] <jeavis> How I can Install Emacs
[07:39] <SiRrUs> hello tritium
[07:39] <ruffian> brb
[07:39] <ells> tritium: well nvidia is fixed
[07:39] <geneo93> Trit no we got that fixed
[07:39] <tritium> jeavis, emacs is already installed by default
[07:39] <ruffian> jeavis: sudo apt-get install emacs
[07:39] <tritium> hello SiRrUs
[07:39] <ells> tritium: no mp3 playability
[07:39] <ruffian> brb
[07:39] <tritium> ells, with what player?
[07:39] <ells> rhtyhmbox
[07:39] <tritium> ells, do you have gstreamer0.8-mad?
[07:39] <ells> tritium: fairly certain
[07:39] <corza> tritium: yes he does. i done the same thing i did and it didnt work for me either (i think anyway)
[07:40] <theantix> ells: definately try gst-register then, that should be all you'd need
[07:40] <corza> ells: have u tried mplayer?
[07:40] <ells> theantix, will try
[07:40] <tritium> corza, it should work...it works for me
[07:40] <tritium> ells, corza double check that you have it
[07:40] <ells> corza, mplayer is not available
[07:40] <jeavis> tritium; I have hoary ubuntu
[07:40] <ells> tritium: will do
[07:40] <Caveman> does anyone know if  gst-register needs to be run as root as well as user ?
[07:40] <tritium> jeavis, you should have it then
[07:40] <theantix> Caveman: running as local user is fine
[07:40] <caliber> How can I make tcpdump ignore the SSH data that is continously being sent by me telnetting to the machine?
[07:41] <caliber> like not monitor port 22
[07:41] <corza> ells: have u added universe and multiverse to the repositories?
[07:41] <ells> root@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # gst-register
[07:41] <tritium> jeavis, under Applications->Accessories
[07:41] <ells> bash: gst-register: command not found
[07:41] <Caveman> theantix: and running as root will have a global affect ?
[07:41] <jeavis> tritium; root@jeavis:~# emacs
[07:41] <jeavis> bash: emacs: command not found
[07:41] <jeavis> root@jeavis:~#
[07:41] <ells> corza, think so
[07:42] <tritium> jeavis, well, if you really don't have it, apt-get install emacs21
[07:42] <tritium> ells, so do you have it?
[07:42] <ells> tritium: one sec , checking
[07:42] <jeavis> tritium; ok 21
[07:42] <srid> where is the 'Human' or 'Industrial' cursor theme installed?
[07:43] <tritium> jeavis, apt-cache search emacs if you want to see what's available
[07:43] <theantix> Caveman: I'm not sure, but I think logging in/out has the same effect
[07:43] <Caveman> theantix: fair enough..
[07:43] <Caveman> been having issues with the crossfade etc in amarok and wondering if its something to do with a gstreamer update  a whle back.
[07:44] <tritium> ells, sorry about AZ
[07:44] <tritium> they kept it closer than I expected
[07:44] <ells> tritium: tell me bout it, I was extremeloy pissed
[07:45] <ells> tritium: I had to go and work on my computer. i was way way way pissed
[07:45] <tritium> ells, how do you have your Multimedia Systems Selector setup?
[07:45] <tritium> ells, don't get too worked up about it.  It's not healthy ;)
[07:45] <ells> tritium: not sure, will check that too. I just have to wait a sec, I am installing something
[07:46] <tritium> mplayer?  bah
[07:46] <tritium> you really don't need that just for mp3 ;)
[07:46] <tritium> it's nice for other things, of course
[07:46] <geneo93> Cube-ness:  you do fschk
[07:46] <ells> tritium: mplayer wont install, it says broken packages
[07:46] <syn-ack> All one needs is XM radio. Thats pure goodness. :p
[07:46] <tritium> ells, no biggie imho
[07:47] <theantix> ells: "gst-register" doesn't work??  you need to install libgstreamer0.8-0 then
[07:47] <geneo93> ells i just insralled it
[07:47] <ells> gstreamer0.8-mad is already the newest version.
[07:47] <ells> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:47] <crimsun> gst-register-0.8, please.
[07:47] <syn-ack> tritium: when you dont have any commericals, you would think different
[07:47] <tritium> ells, run gstreamer-properties please
[07:47] <crimsun> the old version (0.6) is gst-register
[07:47] <tritium> syn-ack, not worth the $
[07:47] <ells> tritium: okay
[07:48] <syn-ack> tritium: I only pay $6.99 a month. ;)
[07:48] <theantix> crimsun: for me it's a symlink to the new one
[07:48] <ells> tritium: okay, what am I looking for
[07:48] <tritium> ells, I just want to know what you have setup
[07:48] <crimsun> theantix: ah, not here, though.
[07:48] <ells> tritium: oss, and esd
[07:49] <jeavis> thanks to all
[07:49] <tritium> ells, are you running the sound server?  change them both to esd
[07:49] <ells> okay
[07:49] <ells> tritium: did the test and it said failed to connect
[07:49] <corza> Ubuntu is by far the most popular Distro to date
[07:51] <helloyo> is hoary preview meant to have a boot splash? i just saw the word splash when it was booting somewhere, but there was no splash
[07:51] <tritium> ells, I'm calling in the big guns, if I can...
[07:51] <ells> tritium; okay
[07:51] <tritium> ells, what about nvidia?
[07:52] <tritium> ells, that seems like a more fundamental sound problem
[07:52] <ells> tritium: got that one fixed
[07:52] <coreDumped69> I need help :-(
[07:52] <tritium> ells, good
[07:52] <tritium> ells, with dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:52] <ells> tritium: went to play ut2004, no sound
[07:52] <ells> tritium: just kept tweaking it
[07:52] <tritium> ells, good for you.  Way to go, buddy.
[07:52] <ells> tritium: hey it is fun to get it working
[07:53] <ells> tritium: this sound thing has be stumped
[07:53] <ells> I have regular system sound
[07:53] <tritium> ells, hold on a second re: the sound
[07:53] <tritium> which chipset?
[07:53] <coreDumped69> I got ubuntu installed on my friend's system... it boots but when it switches to graphics mode, the comp locks up and I can't even switch to another terminal
[07:53] <ells> tritium: who me
[07:53] <tritium> ells, yes
[07:53] <ells> tritium: aw, nvidia
[07:54] <tritium> ells, lsmod | grep snd gives you what?
[07:54] <ells> okay,hold one
[07:54] <tritium> don't paste.  use pastebin.com
[07:55] <coreDumped69> how can I get ubuntu to stop before gdm?
[07:55] <ells> tritium: do you see it
[07:55] <tritium> ells, yes, thanks
[07:56] <tritium> ells, that's very nearly my setup
[07:56] <tritium> ells, is esd running?
[07:56] <tritium> ells, pgrep esd
[07:56] <ells> tritium: okay, how can I check, okay
[07:56] <ells> root@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # pgrep esd
[07:56] <ells> 7934
[07:56] <tritium> okay, it is
[07:57] <crimsun> did you say which card you have, ells?  cat /proc/asound/modules
[07:57] <tritium> ells, big guns have arrived.
[07:57] <tritium> :)
[07:57] <ells> tritium cool
[07:58] <geneo93> Cube-ness:  have you checked fs lately
[07:59] <coreDumped69> anybody know how to boot ubuntu to stop before going into gdm, and just stop at the login prompt?
[08:00] <geneo93> coreDumped69:  no but you can do telint3
[08:00] <ells> crimsun: sorry
[08:00] <ells> crimsun, you were saying
[08:01] <crimsun> ells: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:02] <ells> crimsun: 0 snd_intel8x0
[08:02] <wilbertoki> hello, I am new to ubuntu from debian and I was wondering what ubuntus version of rcconf is to select which services start at boot?
[08:03] <crimsun> ells: sound works everywhere save ut2k4?
[08:03] <ells> crimsun, no mp3 audio
[08:03] <ells> either
[08:03] <coreDumped69> geno, telint3? the computer is locking up switching to graphics mode, so I'd like to prevent it from starting gdm
[08:03] <tritium> wilbertoki, 1.8 in Warty.  1.11 in Hoary
[08:03] <wilbertoki> tritium: I am running hoary , what is 1.11??
[08:03] <tritium> coreDumped69, no, telinit to different runlevels is not how to stop gdm
[08:04] <tritium> wilbertoki, rcconf
[08:04] <geneo93> ctrl alt backspace sould kill x
[08:04] <tritium> that's what you asked about, right, wilbertoki ?
[08:04] <crimsun> ells: even with beep-media-player or xmms?
[08:04] <coreDumped69> no, the computer completely locks up... can't even ctrl-alt-f1
[08:04] <ells> crimsun: xmms locks every time
[08:04] <geneo93> ctrl alt f1 will get you xterm
[08:05] <ells> crimsun: i usually ue rhtymbox
[08:05] <tritium> geneo93, not an xterm, actually.  A virtual console
[08:05] <geneo93> well it works when x dont
[08:05] <tritium> yes
[08:05] <ells> crimsun; can even double click. it goes to totem, and it says it cannot play mp3
[08:05] <crimsun> ells: and you installed 'gstreamer0.8-mad' from universe?
[08:05] <coreDumped69> but once it switches to graphics mode, it hard locks... no way to boot from grub to prevent it from going to gdm? gdm isn't in a different runlevel?
[08:06] <ells> crimsun: I have it installed, not sure where from though
[08:06] <tritium> coreDumped69, have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:06] <tritium> coreDumped69, (assuming you're running Hoary)
[08:06] <geneo93> tritium:  he prolly cant
[08:07] <coreDumped69> no, it's warty, and I can't check the logs, it locks up
[08:07] <ells> crimsun: I can paste my sources on a sep. screen for ya
[08:07] <geneo93> coreDumped69:  does it have fail safe option in grub
[08:08] <tritium> coreDumped69, this is the debian manual on how to disable X at boot: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[08:08] <tritium> coreDumped69, same applies for ubuntu
[08:08] <crimsun> ells: dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[08:08] <coreDumped69> tritium: thanks, i'll give it a try
[08:08] <tritium> coreDumped69, no problem
[08:08] <ells> okay, hold one
[08:09] <ells> crimsun, okay
[08:09] <Roey> crimsun:  better here?
[08:10] <wilbertoki> tritium: sorry I was gone -- yes rcconf -- I can use rcconf right? But I was thinking ubuntu might have added something nicer
[08:10] <crimsun> Roey: best here.
[08:10] <Roey> ok
[08:10] <Roey> didn't realize that was not the place
[08:10] <tritium> wilbertoki, I don't see why not.
[08:10] <Roey> crimsun:  so anyway, you have that link?
[08:10] <crimsun> Roey: read, and it looks like debian/rules is severely broken
[08:11] <Roey> crimsun:  ok
[08:11] <fabbione> Roey: it's nothing personal really :-) and don't worry.. we don't bite ;)
[08:11] <Roey> fabbione:  =)
[08:11] <ells> crimsun: root@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad|grep ^ii|awk `{print $3} `
[08:11] <ells> bash: {print: command not found
[08:11] <Roey> fabbione:  there are a few other issues I want to ask of you (that are related to kernel drivers)
[08:11] <mrquick> hey is anyone able to play dvds' in totem on hoary hedgehog?
[08:11] <fabbione> Roey: just ask, if i don't answer, somebody will
[08:12] <crimsun> ells: gotta use the precise syntax I used
[08:12] <crimsun> ells: not ` but '
[08:12] <tritium> mrquick, most people find xine-ui or gxine easier to use with dvd playback
[08:12] <ells> crimsun: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4
[08:12] <Roey> fabbione:  oh I will, I don't wanna lose my train of thought on the current issue
[08:12] <ells> criimsun: thanks
[08:12] <crimsun> ells: ok, good
[08:12] <ells> crimsun: what next
[08:12] <tritium> mrquick, you'll need libdvdcss2 from Marillat's repo most likely
[08:12] <Roey> fabbione:  but did you see what crimsun wrote here above, that debian/rules for the linux-wacom-kernel package is severely broken?
[08:12] <crimsun> ells: and what was the result of (re)executing ,,sudo gst-register-0.8'' ?
[08:13] <ells> crimsun: will try hold one
[08:13] <Roey> fabbione, crimsun:  is it something I can fix in-place? or should I contact the module maintainers and tell them to get it in shape?
[08:13] <crimsun> Roey: you should file a bug against its BTS entry
[08:13] <Roey> fabbione, crimsun:  this tablet has been laying on the table for the past year because of driver issues, and this is the closest I've come to solving them.
[08:13] <ells> crimsun: root@stevesnetwork:/home/steve # sudo gst-register-8.8
[08:13] <ells> sudo: gst-register-8.8: command not found
[08:13] <Roey> crimsun:  I don't know what to say there
[08:14] <mrquick> tritium, I've got libdvdread and that seems to work for mplayer, but totem just freezes
[08:14] <tritium> ells, 8.0
[08:14] <fabbione> Roey: checking.. just a sec
[08:14] <ells> tritium: okay
[08:14] <tritium> ells, 0.8, rather
[08:14] <fabbione> dpkg -p linux-wacom-kernel
[08:14] <fabbione> Package `linux-wacom-kernel' is not available.
[08:14] <fabbione> Roey: what package is that?
[08:14] <dcm> excuse me
[08:14] <tritium> mrquick, that's not enough for encrypted dvds
[08:14] <ells> tritium; it loaded some plugings
[08:15] <Roey> wacom-kernel-modules-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic - wacom modules for Linux kernel-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[08:15] <dcm> I just came here to ask for some signatures on my petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/ubl1111/
[08:15] <Roey> fabbione:  wacom-kernel-source - Source for the wacom binary modules
[08:15] <Roey> fabbione:  try installing that
[08:15] <tritium> ells, okay.  that's what crimsun wanted to know
[08:15] <Roey> fabbione:  and try --enabling "hid", "usbmouse", "mousedev", "evdev", "tabletdev" in debian/rules
[08:15] <mrquick> tritium, that's what I was thinking but mplayer seems to be decrypting without libdvdcss2 I know I haven't installed it
[08:15] <ells> tritium: should I restart my pc, it still would not play mp3
[08:15] <Burgundavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit
[08:15] <Roey> fabbione:  then make a deb package out of it
[08:15] <Burgundavia> can anyone else see the chars on that page
[08:15] <Roey> fabbione:  install the package,
[08:16] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:16] <Roey> fabbione:  dpkg -L the package
[08:16] <crimsun> Roey: the problem is that the conditional test for wacom.o fails to copy over the _other_ compiled modules, and for good reason, since the hid option is disabled by default in debian rules, so it won't copy over non-compiled modules
[08:16] <tritium> mrquick, maybe so, I don't know about mplayer
[08:16] <Roey> fabbione:  and see how it doesn't install anything
[08:16] <fabbione> Roey: that package is in universe -> not supported. You need to contact the MOTU's for it
[08:16] <Roey> MOTU?
[08:16] <crimsun> fabbione: I'm working with him on it.
[08:16] <ells> crimsun: what should I do now
[08:16] <crimsun> ells: sec, trying to do a few zillion things simultaneously =)
[08:16] <Roey> =)
[08:16] <ells> crimsun, cool
[08:16] <fabbione> Roey: and it is not supposed to create a deb, but needs to be used together with kernel-package and module-assistant (or something like that)
[08:17] <Roey> fabbione:  ok
[08:17] <blawson> Can anyone help me with a ACPI problem on an Inspirion 8600 laptop? I can get it to suspend to RAM, but when it resumes, I get a screensaver looking thing with lines all through it and I am forced to reboot to correct this
[08:17] <tritium> ells, give a quick try with rhythmbox again now
[08:17] <Roey> fabbione:  well, the heart of the matter is that this module provides replacement drives for hid, usbmouse, evdev, and mousedev.
[08:17] <ells> tritium; okay
[08:17] <crimsun> Roey: the easiest way to work around it presently is to copy over all the other modules
[08:17] <tritium> blawson, did you try Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to X ?
[08:17] <Roey> fabbione:  without them, you can't use the tablet and a USB mouse together.
[08:17] <Roey> crimsun:  that's just it, I can't find them anywhere
[08:18] <blawson> tritium, let me try that now
[08:18] <crimsun> Roey: that's because they're not copied over in debian/rules, like I said above
[08:18] <tritium> blawson, upon resume, that is....
[08:18] <Roey> crimsun:  I meant, I can't find them in the src/
[08:18] <ells> tritium: I am jamming now, with my tunes
[08:18] <Roey> crimsun:  oh
[08:18] <Roey> crimsun:  you mean,
[08:18] <tritium> ells, super
[08:18] <Roey> crimsun:  copy the module sources
[08:18] <ells> tritium: as always you guys are the bomb
[08:18] <Roey> crimsun:  and then build the new kernel completely
[08:18] <ells> thanks tritium: crimsun
[08:18] <tritium> ells, it was crimsun this time that helped you
[08:19] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, Thanks for your help the other day!
[08:19] <ells> tritium: like any general, you gotta have good partners
[08:19] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: np
[08:19] <crimsun> ells: np, tritium walked you through it.
[08:19] <DragoraN> hi
[08:19] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, It would seem more x86_64 packages need to be made, is this the case?
[08:19] <ells> crimsun, thanks anyway
[08:19] <blawson> tritum: nope that doesnt work, the keyboard seems totally unresponsive on resume
[08:19] <crimsun> Roey: no, I meant fixing debian/rules.  Sec, I'll try to generate one for you.
[08:19] <Burgundavia> Roey: you running Hoary?
[08:19] <Roey> Burgundavia:  aye
[08:19] <tritium> ells, who was the other with a similar problem?
[08:20] <tritium> is he still here?
[08:20] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: in what sense?
[08:20] <ells> tritium: I forget
[08:20] <Roey> Burgundavia:  I hope that kubuntu will someday detect this and automatically Make It So for the end user
[08:20] <Burgundavia> Roey: can you see the inuit chars on these page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit
[08:20] <tritium> ells, well, if you see him, pass on the knowledge :)
[08:20] <Roey> Burgundavia:  no, they're all squares
[08:20] <Roey> Burgundavia:  but don't you need Inuit fonts?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> Roey: ok. I will file a bug report
[08:20] <Roey> Burgundavia:  do you speak Inuit?
[08:20] <Burgundavia> Roey: no
[08:20] <ells> tritium: will do
[08:20] <tritium> ells, okay, so what next?
[08:20] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, Things such as mplayer, and the sources listed on the wiki are producing errors, and such when following the wiki things dont seem to work as listed.
[08:20] <Burgundavia> Roey: they should display though
[08:21] <Roey> Burgundavia:  maybe I should change my encoding
[08:21] <ells> tritium: well, I am gonna see if the sound will now work on ut2004
[08:21] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, or its me :)
[08:21] <Burgundavia> Roey: when did you install?
[08:21] <ells> tritium: my kids want to play it
[08:21] <Roey> Burgundavia:  last week.
[08:21] <Burgundavia> Roey: ok then, shouldn't be an issue
[08:21] <tritium> ells, okay.  Isn't that kind of violent for kids?
[08:21] <ells> tritium: be right back
[08:21] <ells> tritium: I turn it down
[08:21] <tritium> your call, not mine, anyway ;0
[08:21] <ells> tritium: they get to shoot, but no blood
[08:21] <tritium> :)
[08:21] <lancelott> hi
[08:22] <tritium> cool
[08:22] <Burgundavia> crimsun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit -- can you also confirm that all you see is squares for the inuit chars?
[08:22] <Roey> ells:  how old are they?
[08:22] <ells> tritium: I am like you, I dont want my kids seeing the blood
[08:22] <dcm> Can I please get some signatures: http://www.petitiononline.com/ubl1111/?
[08:22] <ells> Roey, 8
[08:22] <ells> Roey, I will be here with him
[08:22] <tritium> ells, cool.  I'm thinking you may need to disable the sound server for the game to have sound, but give it a try
[08:22] <Burgundavia> dcm: if that is a joke, it is a sick one
[08:23] <ells> tritium: will try it, be right back
[08:23] <crimsun> Burgundavia: I'm running Firefox 1.0.2 on XP, but I get question marks.
[08:23] <Burgundavia> dcm: if it isn't, I suggest you remove yourself from the community
[08:23] <dcm> It's not a joke...
[08:23] <Roey> ells, tritium:  wow, hooray for parental involvement :) this is just what the US needs -- not govt involvement (imo)
[08:23] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: amd64 uses a different mplayer repo
[08:23] <dcm> I'm trying to help the future of Ubunut
[08:23] <dcm> Ubuntu*
[08:23] <lancelott> ubunut? xd
[08:23] <Roey> Sit, Ubunut, sit.
[08:23] <dcm> I don't know this nigger slang :<
[08:23] <Roey> (who was a real dog btw)
[08:23] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: are you using [deb http://cyberspace.ucla.edu/marillat/ unstable main] ?
[08:24] <tritium> dcm stop that right now!
[08:24] <Roey> dcm:  ??
[08:24] <Burgundavia> Ubunut (oo-boon-nut) noun: A crazy user of Ubuntu
[08:24] <HiPn0t|zE> hurro
[08:24] <dcm> What?
[08:24] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, nope
[08:24] <ells> tritium; I think you are right
[08:24] <HiPn0t|zE> so lyke. . how do i use ubuntu
[08:24] <tritium> dcm, your racism is highly offensive and has no place here whatsoever
[08:24] <HiPn0t|zE> im downloading the liveCD version now
[08:24] <ells> tritium: how can I do that
[08:24] <crimsun> dcm: please observe the CoC
[08:24] <dcm> I'm not racist
[08:25] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ main unstable
[08:25] <HiPn0t|zE> how do i get online
[08:25] <Burgundavia> dcm: if you advertise that again, I will be forced to report that to the Community council, which will probably get you banned from this channel
[08:25] <tritium> ells, System->Preferences->Sound will toggle the setting for future sessions, but you'll have to kill the currently running esd
[08:25] <Burgundavia> dcm: and I am very serious
[08:25] <HiPn0t|zE> how do i get online with a dlink 200 usb
[08:25] <crimsun> dcm: [http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct]
[08:25] <ells> tritium: okay
[08:25] <HiPn0t|zE> i have dlink 200
[08:26] <Twiggy> How do I turn dma on on my /dev/hdc
[08:26] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: please use the repo I gave you
[08:26] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: that one has amd64 debs
[08:26] <HiPn0t|zE> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/
[08:26] <Burgundavia> Twiggy: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[08:26] <HiPn0t|zE> ehbwoiahneoibhnwaioejhbio
[08:26] <dcm> ?_?
[08:26] <dcm> Why are you guys mad at me?
[08:26] <Twiggy> Burgundavia:  Thankya
[08:26] <tritium> dcm, you know exactly why.
[08:26] <Burgundavia> Twiggy: read the whole man hdparm. Some good other tweaks there, but READ the man page first
[08:26] <crimsun> please reread the CoC if you're unclear.
[08:26] <HiPn0t|zE> racist fuck
[08:26] <dcm> I'm trying to help the future of the distro
[08:26] <tritium> HiPn0t|zE, that doesn't help any
[08:26] <crimsun> HiPn0t|zE: that's not helping, either
[08:27] <Bazzi> dcm: you may leave _now_.
[08:27] <HiPn0t|zE> hrm
[08:27] <HiPn0t|zE> okay
[08:27] <Burgundavia> HiPn0t|zE: that also doesn't help
[08:27] <tritium> dcm, our community is built upon respect
[08:27] <crimsun> guys, the best way is just to ignore him/her instead of insulting him/her
[08:27] <HiPn0t|zE> okays
[08:27] <dcm> I'm not being disrespectful...
[08:27] <HiPn0t|zE> :)
[08:27] <dcm> I politely asked for support for my petition
[08:27] <Roey> teh
[08:28] <ells> tritium; when I am done, how to bring back the sound for the system and music
[08:28] <Burgundavia> ells: 'esd &'
[08:28] <tritium> ells, esd -nobeeps
[08:28] <HiPn0t|zE> does ubuntu have drivers for usb modems ?
[08:28] <ells> tritium: cool
[08:28] <crimsun> HiPn0t|zE: yes, through the standard usbnet drivers that are included in the kernel
[08:28] <tritium> ells, just don't change the Sound Preferences settings, and you'll be all set at next login
[08:29] <HiPn0t|zE> crimsun is there a list of some sort so i can check for my modem ?
[08:29] <dcm> Help secure the future of the Ubunutu Linux distro.: http://www.petitiononline.com/ubl1111/
[08:29] <tritium> dcm, it's your petition that's the problem.  Now that's the last we'll discuss it
[08:29] <ells> tritium; have to wait to the login, okay
[08:29] <tritium> ells, don't have to.  You can restart the sound server now
[08:29] <dcm> I don't see anything wrong with it
[08:29] <crimsun> HiPn0t|zE: the usbnet driver is generic and supports all usb modems that follow its standard.
[08:29] <ells> tritium; how so
[08:29] <Burgundavia> ells: if you already logged in and you need to restart your esd server, use the esd command
[08:29] <tritium> Burgundavia, I support reporting that to the CC
[08:30] <Burgundavia> tritium: ok
[08:30] <HiPn0t|zE> crimsun : i have a dlink 200 usb modem , would that work
[08:30] <ells> tritium: i did that it acts like it is working, but no sound
[08:30] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, thanks again :)
[08:30] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: np
[08:30] <ells> tritium: the meter is working, but no sound
[08:30] <crimsun> HiPn0t|zE: it should (I can't vouch for that model specifically)
[08:30] <HiPn0t|zE> crimsun : well i run pppoa
[08:30] <crimsun> Roey: (working on it)
[08:31] <geneo93> HiPn0t|zE:  what are u using for ppp
[08:31] <HiPn0t|zE> geneo93 pppoa
[08:31] <geneo93> ok
[08:31] <HiPn0t|zE> geneo93 but ive also used it on pppoe
[08:31] <Roey> crimsun:  ah ok
[08:31] <Burgundavia> tritium: grabbed a log of it
[08:31] <tritium> ells, you're kidding
[08:31] <Roey> crimsun:  I swear to god I will be very very very happy if kubuntu's next release addresses most of my issues
[08:32] <ells> tritium: nope
[08:32] <HiPn0t|zE> geneo93 it works for both
[08:32] <ells> tritium: I am log out and see what happens
[08:32] <Roey> sorry
[08:32] <Roey> crimsun:  I meant ubuntu
[08:32] <tritium> Burgundavia, okay.  Thanks.
[08:32] <Roey> crimsun:  (and the kubuntu packages as well, as I have issues with KDE there too)
[08:32] <tritium> Burgundavia, if you need me to gpg-sign anything, or whatever, let me know
[08:32] <HiPn0t|zE> http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php?lang=en
[08:32] <ells> tritium: Mike who was that guy that was in here
[08:32] <Burgundavia> tritium: I am just going to report it and see what happens
[08:32] <geneo93> sure wish i could get kppp to work
[08:32] <tritium> Burgundavia, okay
[08:33] <HiPn0t|zE> ahh
[08:33] <HiPn0t|zE> try this
[08:33] <HiPn0t|zE> http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php?lang=en
[08:33] <ells> tritium: what did he say
[08:33] <tritium> ells, he's still here.  Scroll up.  I don't want to repeat it at all
[08:33] <ells> tritium: will look, thanks
[08:33] <dcm> I propose this as the new logo
[08:33] <dcm> http://img196.exs.cx/img196/176/login3aw.jpg
[08:34] <lancelott> well I'm going to go install gentoo now
[08:34] <lancelott> bye
[08:34] <HiPn0t|zE> gentoo is fun
[08:34] <tritium> lancelott, what's the problem?
[08:34] <lancelott> tritium: nothing
[08:34] <HiPn0t|zE> but i cant get it runnin online thats all
[08:34] <HiPn0t|zE> ;\
[08:34] <lancelott> tritium: just came in here out of boredom
[08:34] <ells> tritium: it isnt there anymore
[08:34] <tritium> lancelott, oh, okay.  I thought you needed some ubuntu help
[08:35] <tritium> ells, yes, it's right above
[08:35] <dcm> What does everyone think about this as the new logo: http://img196.exs.cx/img196/176/login3aw.jpg?
[08:35] <dcm> It needs a little more work, but it's a start
[08:35] <HiPn0t|zE> eat shit dcm
[08:35] <dcm> No thank you
[08:35] <HiPn0t|zE> ok
[08:35] <crimsun> HiPn0t|zE: remember the CoC, please, even for people who are disrespectful.
[08:36] <HiPn0t|zE> okie dokie
[08:36] <Anubis> crimsun,  how do i add your repository for hoary?
[08:36] <crimsun> Anubis: my repo is specifically for Warty and will be disabled one month following Hoary's release.
[08:36] <Anubis> ok
[08:36] <Anubis> thx
[08:36] <crimsun> np
[08:37] <Bazzi> isnt there anyone who can ban people from here? ;)
[08:37] <tritium> Bazzi, not at the moment
[08:37] <ells> dcm: i saw your jacked up petition: you need to get a life and leave
[08:37] <HiPn0t|zE> what's the difference between the livecd and the other version ?
[08:38] <dcm> I have a life
[08:38] <tritium> Let's all not forget to be respectful, despite the display we've seen.  Let's all rise above it.
[08:38] <geneo93> HiPn0t|zE:  the other is install cd
[08:38] <ells> dcm: I dont think so
[08:38] <dcm> ok
[08:38] <HiPn0t|zE> don't understand
[08:38] <ells> dcm: take your racist crap elsewhere
[08:38] <dcm> I'm not racist
[08:38] <ells> dcm: you can leave anytime
[08:38] <Bazzi> ok so lets /ignore him for a start.
[08:38] <geneo93> live cd runs off cdrom
[08:38] <dcm> ok
[08:39] <HiPn0t|zE> so can i install stuff ?
[08:39] <tritium> dcm, your petition is, by all definitions, racist
[08:39] <geneo93> no
[08:39] <HiPn0t|zE> ohhh.
[08:39] <dcm> I'm sorry you feel that way
[08:39] <HiPn0t|zE> so what exactly does it do
[08:39] <munki> HiP , Live-cd is only for running ununtu directly from the cd..
[08:39] <ells> dcm: you must have lived a very sheltered life
[08:39] <drummer87> live is to try hoary out w/o installing to hdd
[08:39] <tritium> dcm, please stop posting any such related material.  It is not welcome here.
[08:39] <geneo93> runs everything on that cd
[08:39] <munki> Hip , the install-cd is for installing ubuntu on your hd
[08:40] <ells> dcm: this is a communtiy of friends, of all ethnicities
[08:40] <HiPn0t|zE> ohhhh
[08:40] <HiPn0t|zE> so like.. i can't use livecd to get on the net and etc
[08:40] <HiPn0t|zE> and install drivers etc
[08:40] <HiPn0t|zE> ahhhhh .. kay
[08:40] <dcm> Alright.
[08:40] <tritium> Thank you.
[08:40] <geneo93> HiPn0t|zE:  all thats done for you
[08:41] <munki> HiP , Nah, it's just for the ones who don't wan't to install ubuntu on their machine.
[08:41] <srid> where is the 'Human' or 'Industrial' cursor theme installed?
[08:41] <HiPn0t|zE> ahh .. hokays
[08:41] <HiPn0t|zE> but ubuntu runs like X .. as in gui right ?
[08:41] <munki> Hip . yup
[08:41] <geneo93> yes'
[08:41] <dcm> I have a problem to report with the Ubuntu live cd
[08:41] <HiPn0t|zE> ahh okay.. cuz i dont know all the cmd
[08:42] <dcm> 1. It has a negro on the label
[08:42] <dcm> 2.   Did you get the latest stuff?
[08:46] <Burgundavia> no, but I will get another in a sec
[08:46] <HiPn0t|zE> so am i able to run a botnet off ubuntu
[08:47] <Burgundavia> tritium: I also got a screenshot of the webpage, in case he takes it down
[08:47] <tritium> Burgundavia, okay
[08:47] <crimsun> Roey: is there a strict ordering for wacom.ko?
[08:47] <crimsun> Roey: or can you point me to a url?
[08:47] <mello> hey guys, what's the terminal command to get the nvidia drivers
[08:47] <Roey> crimsun:  the order is that you have to load it before HID
[08:48] <Roey> crimsun:  hmm, where did I find this.. one second.
[08:48] <drummer87> i need some help someone.. i can't mount my usb drive coz i don't have sdb in /dev
[08:48] <dcm> good job
[08:48] <geneo93> mello:  apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:49] <mello> thanks.
[08:49] <geneo93> np
[08:49] <mello> is nvidia-glx the driver package?
[08:49] <Boohbah> HiPn0t|zE: uh.. what kind of a question is that?
[08:49] <fred> any idea why /lib/cpp would fail a sanity check?
[08:49] <mello> or an all-around nvidia program
[08:49] <bhna> mello: yes
[08:49] <tritium> mello, the actual driver is in linux-restricted-modules
[08:49] <drummer87> is there anywhere else it can be mounted?
[08:49] <dcm> fred: You are a homosexual.
[08:49] <crimsun> Roey: have you tried loading that new wacom?
[08:49] <mello> so where is the nvidia-glx?
[08:50] <crimsun> fred: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[08:50] <bhna> dcm: please shutdown!
[08:50] <mello> multiverse, universe
[08:50] <Boohbah> dcm: you are only saying that because you want someone to stroke you because you don't get enough attention
[08:50] <ells> dcm: take your kkk self and leave
[08:50] <crimsun> mello: it's in restricted
[08:50] <dcm> Boohbah: Nope
[08:50] <mello> thanks man
[08:50] <Burgundavia> Boohbah: please respect the CoC as well
[08:50] <mello> i'm gonna restart
[08:51] <dcm> ells: The KKK is a Christian organization and I am not Christian. I suggest you not attempt to converse about things which you know nothing about.
[08:51] <Boohbah> Burgundavia: CoC? does it say something about feeding trolls?
[08:51] <Roey> crimsun:  "For kernel 2.6 and later, you almost certainly do not need the usbmouse module because it conflicts with the full usb hid driver, usbhid, which should be used in most cases. For kernel 2.4, I recommend you to build it."
[08:51] <Roey> crimsun:  that's (1)
[08:51] <crimsun> ells: your irc client has /ignore .  It's a great feature.  :)
[08:51] <Roey> crimsun:  (2), I'm stillt rying to find the loading order.
[08:51] <ells> dcm: anyway you slice it, take your disrepsectful self and go be by yourself
[08:51] <Burgundavia> Boohbah: sorry, I misread your comment
[08:51] <ells> crimsun, thanks will use that
[08:51] <jbass1234> hi all
[08:51] <jbass1234> I have a rather strange problem
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm...
[08:52] <Burgundavia> salut jbass1234
[08:52] <jbass1234> everytime I open gdesklets controls rhytmbox opens on top of this
[08:52] <ells> crimsun, that jerk is no ignored
[08:52] <jbass1234> I've tried reinstalling it and it still does it
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Firefox just seems to crash when  i go to a page with flash movies onit.
[08:52] <jbass1234> how do I stop rhythmbox from openinng?
[08:52] <ells> WILL EVERYONE NOW IGNORE DCM FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY
[08:53] <dcm> Please stop yelling little niggle
[08:53] <ells> WILL EVERYONE NOW IGNORE DCM FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY
[08:53] <dcm> Please stop yelling little niggle
[08:53] <caffinated> somehow i think they both should go
[08:53] <ells> caffinated: who is that
[08:53] <dcm> ells is an anti-semite
[08:53] <Xira> Hi
[08:53] <caffinated> ells: you and dcm
[08:53] <Xira> I have installed Ubuntu on my main desktop
[08:54] <crimsun> ells: which irc client?
[08:54] <dcm> Your cool Xira
[08:54] <ells> caffinated, You must have me confused
[08:54] <Xira> and it detected my Dell 1704FP and Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb
[08:54] <Xira> but
[08:54] <Xira> When X starts
[08:54] <Xira> my monitor just turns off
[08:54] <ells> crimsun, not sure man
[08:54] <Xira> Like it's not receiving signal
[08:54] <Xira> It's using DVI
[08:54] <Burgundavia> jbass1234: very wierd
[08:54] <ells> caffinated: I am just wanting the site to be free of racism
[08:54] <Burgundavia> jbass1234: but having never used gdesklets, I cannot help you
[08:54] <caffinated> ells: then you should just let it drop instead of screaming in all caps at the rest of us.
[08:55] <dcm> ells is an anti-semite
[08:55] <dcm> He supports a man who destroyed 6 million of my people
[08:55] <Xira> Can anyone help me?
[08:55] <Roey> crimsun:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/aVxQlJ89.html
[08:55] <Roey> crimsun:  that's the order right there.
[08:55] <crimsun> Xira: warty or hoary?
[08:55] <ells> caffinated:my bad, just get riled up about things like that, but you are right
[08:55] <Xira> crimsun: Whichever 4.10 is
[08:56] <crimsun> Xira: Warty, ok.
[08:56] <caffinated> ells: besides, trolls go hungry when you're not feeding them ;)
[08:56] <HiPn0t|zE> like is the livecd version stable enuff to run a server
[08:56] <Burgundavia> HiPn0t|zE: you would be taking an awful performance hit for doing so, but you could
[08:56] <ells> caffinated: you are right my friend
[08:56] <geneo93> HiPn0t|zE:  why would you want to run a server off live cd
[08:57] <drummer87> can someone please help me?
[08:57] <drummer87> i can't mount my thumb drive
[08:57] <Boohbah> the best way to deal with trolls in here would be to GET SOME OPS
[08:57] <HiPn0t|zE> cuz i dont have enough space
[08:57] <Burgundavia> drummer87: what does dmesg say?
[08:57] <fred> hmm. why would a configure script not be able to find "X includes"
[08:57] <crimsun> fred: warty or hoary?
[08:58] <fred> hoary
[08:58] <Kazuhiro> When setting up a chroot to use cadega, do I need to restup sound and nvidia acceleration in the chroot?
[08:58] <crimsun> fred: install libx11-dev
[08:58] <crimsun> Kazuhiro: no.
[08:58] <fred> crimsun: thanks
[08:58] <Xira> Any idea...?
[08:58] <Xira> =(
[08:58] <Kazuhiro> crimsun,  when running glxgears in the chroot it fails
[08:58] <crimsun> Xira: does the normal radeon driver work?
[08:58] <caffinated> Kazuhiro: iirc, you don't need a chroot environment to use cedega
[08:58] <Xira> crimsun: Well, it's whatever driver it detected by default
[08:58] <drummer87> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22309
[08:58] <Xira> I tried reconfiguring it
[08:58] <Kazuhiro> crimsun, Segmentation fault
[08:58] <Xira> and everything looked ok
[08:59] <Xira> but it still does it
[08:59] <Kazuhiro> caffinated, im using x86_64
[08:59] <Burgundavia> drummer87: you should just be able to plug it in
[08:59] <srid> where is the 'Human' or 'Industrial' cursor theme installed?
[08:59] <HiPn0t|zE> weeeeee
[08:59] <HiPn0t|zE> :D
[09:00] <drummer87> Burgundavia: i do but i get this from dmesg:  ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: port 1 reset error -110
[09:00] <drummer87> hub 3-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)
[09:00] <fred> crimsun: when checking for libz i get not found. any ideas?
[09:00] <crimsun> fred: install zlib1g-dev
[09:00] <Xira> heh
[09:00] <Burgundavia> drummer87: what type of drive do you have?
[09:00] <Xira> I guess I have to use another distro?
[09:00] <bhna> srid: maybe in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons
[09:00] <Xira> :-/
[09:01] <Boohbah> lamont: thank you ;)
[09:01] <HiPn0t|zE> is there a program to launch the livecd .. cuz i dont have any blank cds
[09:01] <crimsun> Xira: grep Driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4|tail -1
[09:01] <Burgundavia> srid: look under ubuntu-artwork package
[09:01] <drummer87> Burgundavia: benq 128meg
[09:01] <Burgundavia> srid: may be in there
[09:01] <srid> sri@infinity:~ $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/
[09:01] <Boohbah> lamont: dcm has been trolling #kubuntu too
[09:01] <srid> default  handhelds  redglass  whiteglass
[09:01] <Xira> crimsun: what's that do? o.O
[09:01] <srid> kde showed me the 'Human' cursor theme
[09:01] <drummer87> Burgundavia: it sometimes works if it's plugged while booting
[09:01] <crimsun> Xira: it tells me what driver XFree86 is configured to use for your graphics card
[09:02] <lamont> Boohbah: /me has no ops there
[09:02] <Xira> Heh
[09:02] <drummer87> but otherwise i do mount and it says /dev/sdb does not exist
[09:02] <Burgundavia> drummer87: that is odd. You running hoary or warty?
[09:02] <Xira> I guess I'd have to try intstalling Ubuntu again
[09:02] <crimsun> Xira: why?
[09:02] <drummer87> hoary preview
[09:02] <Roey> crimsun:   I will BRB
[09:02] <crimsun> Xira: oh, you don't have Ubuntu Warty installed?
[09:02] <crimsun> Roey: ok.
[09:02] <Xira> I _did_
[09:02] <Xira> but I sort of gave up
[09:02] <Roey> crimsun:  about mailing the maintainers,
[09:02] <Xira> I just really want to use Ubuntu
[09:02] <Xira> because it looks pretty promising
[09:03] <crimsun> Xira: ok, it's difficult to troubleshoot if you don't have it installed ;)
[09:03] <Roey> crimsun:  we'll mail them your updated debian/rules?
[09:03] <Roey> crimsun:  did you get that last link, btw
[09:03] <jbass1234> ok, one more question
[09:03] <jbass1234> how do I change the default on applications
[09:03] <jbass1234> ?
[09:03] <crimsun> Roey: no, this will be tailored for you.  Yes, I got it.  Following Hoary's release, I'll hack debian/rules properly and send it back "upstream" to Debian.
[09:04] <Roey> crimsun:  oh thank you *so* much
[09:04] <mello> hey guys, could someone help me set up my geforceFX 5200
[09:04] <Roey> crimsun:  do you have a grasp of what files need to be loaded when?
[09:04] <Burgundavia> drummer87: have you tried with the livecd on your machine?
[09:04] <crimsun> Roey: yep, only usbhid.ko is important, and that is handled already.
[09:04] <tritium> mello, yes
[09:04] <Burgundavia> drummer87: have you tried on another machine?
[09:04] <kpeterson> mello: have you tried following any guies on installing the nvidia driver?
[09:04] <Roey> crimsun:  so usbmouse and evdev and all that I don't really need?
[09:04] <kpeterson> *guides
[09:04] <crimsun> Roey: I'm just fixing debian/rules to copy over the other compiled modules
[09:05] <Roey> crimsun:  ok
[09:05] <mello> i searched the ubuntu webpage and didn't find anything
[09:05] <kain> I've already filled a bug report,but they told me everything is okay, but look at this: http://archive.kuht.it/gnome_hoary.png after some upgrades to ubuntu-artwork I'm not been able anymore to use those icons, only gnome ones and not Human's.. somebody has an explanation?
[09:05] <drummer87> Burgundavia: no and i have no other to try it on
[09:05] <mello> i tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:05] <tritium> mello the wiki has a BinaryHowto page, but I can try to help you
[09:05] <Burgundavia> drummer87: hmm. If you have a cd burner, I would try the livecd.
[09:05] <mello> but i ctrl+alt+backspace afterwards and didn't get the nvidia picture
[09:05] <kain> or it happens to someone else?
[09:05] <drummer87> Burgundavia: it worked in hoary array5 (i think)
[09:05] <kpeterson> mello: also this is pretty straightfoward: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[09:05] <mello> i'd appreciate it.. and to start, how do you enter my name before?
[09:06] <drummer87> Burgundavia: i'll try the live cd though
[09:06] <tritium> mello, I start typing it, and then use tab-completion
[09:06] <mello> ah
[09:06] <mello> tritium, thanks
[09:06] <Burgundavia> drummer87: can you confirm something for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit <-- do you see squares on this page instead of inuit?
[09:06] <mello> sweet =]
[09:06] <kpeterson> I have been unable to get send/recieve files working with my AIM buddies in GAIM.  It was working fine with windows on this machine.  Any ideas?
[09:06] <tritium> mello :)
[09:07] <kain> anyone using hoary gnome 2.10 and human theme?
[09:07] <geneo93> tritium:  i think he just needs to enable
[09:07] <Burgundavia> kain: yes
[09:07] <mello> tritium, what does this mean: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[09:07] <tritium> geneo93, perhaps so
[09:07] <kain> Burgundavia, try selecting human theme icons
[09:08] <drummer87> Burgundavia: yes, some squares
[09:08] <tritium> mello, after an update?  I guess some packages were held back
[09:08] <Burgundavia> drummer87: ok
[09:08] <mello> will that affect the drivers?
[09:08] <drummer87> brb
[09:08] <Burgundavia> kain: and?
[09:08] <tritium> mello, well, do you know which packages they are?  did nvidia-glx install?
[09:09] <kain> Burgundavia, they are gnome icons, not human ones.. developer tell me that everything is okay and we don't use human icon theme right now, but in array 7, as see here http://archive.kuht.it/gnome_hoary.png it uses them
[09:09] <kain> or I dreamed
[09:09] <kain> human icons appear for devices and desktop item
[09:10] <kain> not for mimetypes on files
[09:10] <Burgundavia> no, I see that
[09:10] <kain> this was fixed
[09:10] <kain> but they're gnome icons.
[09:10] <kain> not human ones
[09:10] <Burgundavia> I am failing to see the problem
[09:10] <Burgundavia> sorry
[09:11] <kain> Burgundavia, example
[09:11] <e_machinist> How goes it?
[09:11] <kain> which color is your trashcan
[09:11] <kain> if you have one on the desktop?
[09:11] <e_machinist> My trashcan is blue....
[09:11] <Burgundavia> kain: I have nothing on my desktop, sorry
[09:11] <kain> selecting human icon theme btw
[09:11] <e_machinist> But I don't have the trash can on the Desktop.
[09:12] <e_machinist> Desktop is squeaky clean.
[09:12] <kain> ok, mine in light green
[09:12] <tritium> good night all
[09:12] <kain> before the upgrade is was grey
[09:12] <kain> and much better than this icon
[09:12] <e_machinist> Which upgrade did ya do?
[09:13] <kain> hoary with latest upgrades, I believe it depends on ubuntu-artwork
[09:13] <kain> same thing happened on another machine
[09:13] <crimsun> Roey: ping me when you return
[09:13] <Roey> crimsun:  pong
[09:14] <kain> with this upgrade, if I select human icone theme devices show human's icon well, but not the files
[09:14] <kain> they use gnome icon theme.
[09:14] <crimsun> Roey: replace your debian/rules with http://sh.nu/~crimsun/rules
[09:14] <e_machinist> You prefer GNOME or KDE kain?
[09:14] <xquizit> hey guys, I got a big prob after a warty to hoary upgrade. my foreward slash turns in to  and all special charaters are
[09:14] <kain> e_machinist, I'm trying out gnome 2.10, and I like it, before I always used kde
[09:15] <xquizit> also my resoution isnt 1280x800
[09:16] <geneo93> mello get it to work
[09:16] <kain> e_machinist, try to do ls -lh /usr/share/themes/Human/scalable
[09:16] <e_machinist> Sounds fun kain. I personally don't really prefer one over the other... I have gotten kinda cozy with GNOME lately though.
[09:16] <e_machinist> Kinda wish there was only one... but hey... you know, whatever.
[09:16] <crimsun> Roey: make sure I've enabled the correct options, then run it with the appropriate arguments
[09:16] <xquizit> ok fixed it
[09:16] <kain> before the upgrade there were four directories, now they're three, "stock" is missing
[09:16] <xquizit> now my resolution doesn want to go :/
[09:17] <kain> e_machinist, the thing that I like in gnome is its polish interface
[09:17] <kain> but I really enjoy testing new stuff
[09:17] <kain> and see the progresses
[09:17] <kain> clean* interface
[09:17] <kain> not polish
[09:17] <kain> ehe
[09:17] <e_machinist> Yah, GNOME has a pretty sweet polish... pretty much a gleam actually.
[09:17] <e_machinist> haha.
[09:18] <mello> geneo93, yep
[09:18] <mello> geneo93, it works swell
[09:18] <geneo93> cool
[09:18] <caffinated> gnome is what KDE could have been if feature creep didn't get so rampant
[09:19] <Roey> crimsun:   02:18:47 modules ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko
[09:19] <Roey> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 46474 2005-03-27 02:17 /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/input/usbhid.ko
[09:19] <e_machinist> What are you compy specs kain?
[09:19] <Roey> crimsun:  OK! looked like these things installed fianlly!
[09:19] <Roey> crimsun:  lemme reboot.
[09:20] <kain> e_machinist, notebook ibm thinkpad with centrino M ipw2200 1500mhz, 512 ram hdd 80gb 7200 rpm
[09:20] <e_machinist> nice. Mine is Athlon XP 1800+ @ 1533mhz, 512mb, 80gb 7200rpm.
[09:20] <e_machinist> Desktop of course.
[09:21] <e_machinist> Oh yah, got a budget ATI Radeon 9200 AGP4x 128mb haha.
[09:21] <kain> mine is i915
[09:21] <kain> bad supported but it's okay
[09:21] <kain> 64mb shared
[09:21] <Roey> crimsun:  I am rebooting now.
[09:21] <Roey> yipee!
[09:22] <e_machinist> aggh... good thing you got 512mb ram, haha... that mem sharing can kill.
[09:22] <HiPn0t|zE> CPU: (1 CPU - AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (Barton), 2.19 GHz, L1: 64KB L2: 512KB (2% Load))  OS: (WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600))  OSInstall: (XP was installed 1wk 1day 5hrs 39secs ago)
[09:22] <kain> oh yeah
[09:22] <HiPn0t|zE> Up: (4h 10m)  RecUP: (14h 31m 58s set on Tue Mar 22 06:54:14 2005)  HD: (Total/Free: 23.08/3.2GB)  Virtual Memory: (Usage: 57/2048MB (2.77%))
[09:22] <HiPn0t|zE> Mem: (Usage: 205/256MB (80.08%))  Page File: (Usage: 177/618MB (28.63%))  Sound: (NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio)  Disp: (1280x1024 32bit 60Hz)
[09:22] <HiPn0t|zE> Temp: (Case: 34C, CPU: 40C, Fan 1: 4115RPM)
[09:22] <e_machinist> The Radeon 9200 seems to be supported well enough through default installation... don't have any trouble running 3D junk.
[09:23] <kain> e_machinist, I tried ubuntu hoary on a machine with 9200, works like a charm
[09:23] <HiPn0t|zE> i have a 9200
[09:23] <HiPn0t|zE> Display Info: (1280x1024 32bit 60Hz)  Monitor: (Panasonic Rear Projection TV)
[09:23] <caffinated> i tried warty on a mac, nothing but problems heh
[09:23] <HiPn0t|zE> Video Card: (ATi Radeon 9200 Series)  Sound Card: (NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio)
[09:24] <caffinated> didn't like the video card for some reason
[09:24] <HiPn0t|zE> just use liveCD .. easy shietz
[09:24] <kain> caffinated, macs are still missing from my curriculae vitae
[09:24] <kain> ghg
[09:24] <kain> i tried a powerbook, nice machine
[09:24] <kain> but I prefer my ibm
[09:24] <caffinated> kain: too bad too, it would have made that G4 useful, instead of being an OS X paperweght
[09:24] <[nrx] > mornin, all
[09:25] <HiPn0t|zE> G'day
[09:25] <e_machinist> mornin to ye!
[09:25] <kain> if I will have some extra cash I would like to but a mini mac to give it a try
[09:25] <caffinated> oh, don't get me wrong, i despise macs :)
[09:25] <caffinated> mostly because of OS X though.
[09:25] <caffinated> oh, and steve jobs
[09:26] <kain> caffinated, did you saw latest beta videos about gnome?
[09:26] <HiPn0t|zE> can i see a screenshot of ubuntu
[09:26] <caffinated> kain: which set?
[09:26] <kain> caffinated, wait, I'll search em
[09:26] <caffinated> the ones about the new opengl interface?
[09:26] <[nrx] > so today, I have to get ndiswrapper and sound working
[09:26] <caffinated> wobbly windows or whatever it was?
[09:26] <kain> caffinated, yes, these
[09:26] <kain> or those*?
[09:26] <caffinated> yeah, i've seen them
[09:26] <blawson> Would errors in my /var/log/acpid file like "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" and "Xlib: No protocol specifed" have something to do with my Suspend to RAM issues?
[09:26] <kain> my english sucks
[09:26] <kain> ehe
[09:26] <kain> ok
[09:27] <raymond> hi all
[09:27] <[nrx] > hi raydogg
[09:27] <[nrx] > er
[09:27] <[nrx] > hi raymond
[09:27] <[nrx] > :)
[09:27] <caffinated> i won't bother until they make it work alongside applications which already use opengl
[09:27] <raymond> all proud ubuntu users?
[09:28] <caffinated> raymond: no, i use OS/2.  I'm only here because of the palm trees and free beer :)
[09:28] <raymond> :)
[09:28] <kutucape> hi all
[09:28] <[nrx] > heh
[09:28] <kain> raymond, I'm testing it, just to put hands on something relatively new
[09:28] <crimsun> I love Windows XP.  It runs putty.exe great!  Of course, I'm sshed into various Ubuntu machines...
[09:28] <raymond> no chicks?
[09:28] <raymond> :P
[09:28] <kutucape> using hoary and get some updates makes my laptop run smooth
[09:28] <caffinated> crimsun: when i'm in windows, i just use Services for Unix.
[09:28] <[nrx] > got warty on my laptop
[09:28] <kutucape> compaq presario 2500
[09:29] <kutucape> warty is run smooth on my laptop too
[09:29] <Kazuhiro> ibm x31 here
[09:29] <kutucape> but i try hoary, and hmm what a nice desktop :D
[09:29] <kain> ibm r50e here
[09:29] <[nrx] > fs Amilo D, here ;)
[09:29] <kain> ipw2200 and accelerations works out of the box
[09:29] <kain> yay
[09:30] <kutucape> i haven't check the acceleration, maybe it works too
[09:30] <[nrx] > anyone really clued up with ndiswrapper?
[09:30] <kain> kutucape, glxinfo | grep rendering
[09:30] <kutucape> wait
[09:30] <kutucape> the answer is yes :)
[09:31] <kutucape> direct rendering: Yes
[09:31] <kutucape> cool
[09:31] <kain> and oh yeah, another happy user
[09:31] <kain> ehe
[09:31] <HiPn0t|zE> did you guys download it or get the free cd ?
[09:31] <HiPn0t|zE> and did u hafta pay for customs and etc
[09:31] <kutucape> i have tried some distros including: redhat, mandrake, suse and so on, but ubuntu is my choice
[09:31] <caffinated> HiPn0t|zE: no, cd shipment is free
[09:31] <drummer87> Burgundavia: bak, and exactly same error from live cd
[09:32] <kutucape> HiPn0t|zE: ubuntu is always free of charge
[09:32] <[nrx] > i got 20 CD's delivered
[09:32] <HiPn0t|zE> but like
[09:32] <HiPn0t|zE> delivery to australia
[09:32] <kpeterson> what version of debian his hoary based on?
[09:32] <HiPn0t|zE> you know. .
[09:32] <[nrx] > different arch's. too and I sent them out to mates :)
[09:32] <caffinated> people are always so confused when they get something for free with no strings attached heh.
[09:32] <geneo93> hip anywhere
[09:32] <HiPn0t|zE> hrm
[09:32] <kain> kpeterson, hoary is based on debian unstable, I think
[09:32] <HiPn0t|zE> what's this customs fee thing i have to pay 4
[09:33] <geneo93> you dont
[09:33] <[nrx] > HiPn0t|zE, some countries charge a fee for things coming into the country, especially software from elsewhere
[09:33] <HiPn0t|zE> really ?
[09:33] <caffinated> HiPn0t|zE: well, that's customs, not the people who send you ubuntu.  technicly you shouldn't have to pay customs since you're not buying anything.
[09:33] <HiPn0t|zE> hrm.. maybe i should order some
[09:33] <HiPn0t|zE> hokays
[09:33] <HiPn0t|zE> howlong does it take . .
[09:33] <[nrx] > HiPn0t|zE, order a lot.. the shipping fee's are less for the ubuntu lot then and you can spread them around :)
[09:34] <caffinated> HiPn0t|zE: yeah, you should actually.  order lots, and give them to everyone you know :)
[09:34] <HiPn0t|zE> hrm.. so it's really that good
[09:34] <kutucape> [nrx] : can ubuntu delivered to Indonesia?
[09:34] <HiPn0t|zE> icic
[09:34] <kutucape> Indonesia is my country
[09:34] <caffinated> ubuntu policies > *
[09:34] <[nrx] > they'll deliver anywhere
[09:34] <[nrx] > if you already get post, why not :)
[09:34] <kutucape> ok
[09:34] <kpeterson> can anyone advise me on setting up a proftpd server for anonymous access?  I tried earlier according to various websites but was not successfull, and I am left wondering about the security of my system
[09:34] <kutucape> because downloading ubuntu here, takes a day
[09:34] <e_machinist> I hand out my Ubuntu CDs... free advertising for Ubuntu.
[09:34] <HiPn0t|zE> anyone got it delivered to Australia
[09:35] <[nrx] > HiPn0t|zE, just order them.. they'll come
[09:35] <e_machinist> Downloading Ubuntu for me would take.... forever on my 56k. haha.
[09:35] <HiPn0t|zE> hokays
[09:35] <kutucape> kpeterson: have you try pure-ftpd?
[09:35] <crimsun> HiPn0t|zE: several Ubuntu developers live in .au :)
[09:35] <kutucape> pure-ftpd is easy to setup
[09:35] <geneo93> e_machinist:  two days here
[09:35] <Roey> crimsun: hi
[09:35] <crimsun> Roey: hi
[09:35] <Roey> crimsun: ping
[09:35] <HiPn0t|zE> oh really.. didn't know that
[09:35] <Roey> crimsun: HI crimsun,
[09:35] <expo> hello!
[09:36] <Roey> crimsun: guess what, God really hates me
[09:36] <Roey> crimsun: I rebooted and now I can't boot
[09:36] <e_machinist> You actually have the time to just let Ubuntu download on your 56k geneo?
[09:36] <Roey> crimsun: it says this:
[09:36] <HiPn0t|zE> must be costing them alot to post out these cds
[09:36] <geneo93> e_machinist:  yes
[09:36] <[nrx] > HiPn0t|zE, worth it if they get the software out there... first the postal service.. then the WORLD MWUAHAHAHAHAHA
[09:37] <drummer87> do they need ur phone number field filled out in the order form? what do they need it for?
[09:37] <[nrx] > dr evil eat your heart out.
[09:37] <HiPn0t|zE> hehe i suppose
[09:37] <e_machinist> heh, I should try to download the entire thing just for kicks.
[09:37] <geneo93> e_machinist:  i fact i prolly d/l 3 gigs a month or nore
[09:37] <e_machinist> I probably download around 500mb-1.5gb a month... of software... maybe. haha.
[09:37] <Roey> crimsun:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/a76TwZ20.html
[09:38] <Roey> e_machinist: http://rafb.net/paste/results/a76TwZ20.html
[09:38] <kutucape> cool pure-ftpd is in ubuntu too
[09:38] <Roey> I can't boot! dah!
[09:38] <kpeterson> kutucape no i have not. is that another server?
[09:38] <crimsun> Roey: that's not related to your modules, though.  What's your default kernel set to?
[09:38] <crimsun> Roey: and the initrd?
[09:38] <geneo93> well mine has to be tended cause i get diff ip addy everytime
[09:39] <kutucape> anyone here ever tried mono on ubuntu?
[09:39] <Roey> crimsun:   -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1274601 Mar 24 10:00 vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[09:39] <crimsun> kutucape: it works well.
[09:39] <Roey> crimsun: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 5025792 Mar 26 04:07 initrd.img-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[09:39] <Roey> crimsun: hmm... is initrd not matched to the kernel/
[09:39] <Roey> ?
[09:40] <Roey> crimsun: the timestampsare different...
[09:40] <e_machinist> hmm.. I'll try to download the FINAL Hoary on the 6th.
[09:41] <crimsun> Roey: it looks like your initrd has been fubared
[09:41] <e_machinist> Luckily Ubuntu isn't all that big of a download as far as linux distros go.
[09:41] <crimsun> Roey: try reinstalling the initrd from the 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic linux-image
[09:42] <Lathiat> mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic # may also work
[09:42] <Roey> crimsun: apt-get install what?
[09:42] <Roey> crimsun: I will chroot into the old drive...one sec
[09:42] <Roey> er
[09:42] <Roey> into my hard disk's /
[09:42] <crimsun> Roey: --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[09:42] <Roey> crimsun: I did that yesterday after you logged out though
[09:43] <Roey> crimsun: I did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[09:43] <Roey> crimsun: is there a spearate initrd package or somethign?
[09:43] <cam> hey all
[09:43] <[nrx] > hi cam
[09:43] <cam> I have a question...
[09:43] <crimsun> Roey: no, it's in the linux-image
[09:44] <geneo93> alien -help
[09:44] <geneo93> opps
[09:45] <Roey> oh jesus fucking christ
[09:45] <crimsun> Roey: CoC, dude...
[09:45] <Roey> crimsun: I wanted to umount /mnt/md0 and it tells me it's busy
[09:45] <Roey> crimsun: and I mounted it only a minute ago
[09:45] <Roey> what gives/???
[09:45] <Roey> crimsun: I'm not even in it!
[09:45] <kain> lsof /mnt/md0 ?
[09:45] <Roey> kain:  one sec.  (also fuser -v)
[09:45] <[nrx] > cam, what's the question?
[09:46] <crimsun> not a md/lvm/evms guru, sorry.
[09:46] <Roey> COMMAND  PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[09:46] <Roey> bash    4937 knoppix  cwd    DIR    9,0 1024    2 /mnt/md0
[09:46] <Roey> lsof    5476 knoppix  cwd    DIR    9,0 1024    2 /mnt/md0
[09:46] <Roey> lsof    5477 knoppix  cwd    DIR    9,0 1024    2 /mnt/md0
[09:46] <crimsun> are you chrooted into it?
[09:46] <Roey> I got out of the bash process which mounted it
[09:46] <Roey> and it umounted now.
[09:46] <cam> u may think its n00bish but how do I update firefox? 0.9.3 came presintalled I attempted to use synatpic but it nothing happened.
[09:46] <Roey> let me now chroot into it
[09:46] <crimsun> cam: running Warty?
[09:46] <[nrx] > if you open firefox, there's an option to update it
[09:47] <[nrx] > and i'm talking crap, once again
[09:47] <kpeterson> I have installed the pure-ftpd package, can anyone advise me on how to configure it to simply allow anonymous access?
[09:47] <cam> The Warty Warthog yes
[09:48] <raymond> can someone help me out please im have a problem with my screen resolution in gnome
[09:49] <raymond> << newbie
[09:49] <Roey> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/xVX5Jl72.html
[09:50] <cam> I even attempted to download Firefoxes latest and install that ,but it didn't allow me to create a new directory in /usr/local/bin
[09:50] <cam> ???
[09:50] <robitaille> cam:  sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin/MozillaFirefox
[09:50] <robitaille> cam:  sudo chown cam.cam /usr/local/bin/MozillaFirefox
[09:50] <raymond> i got a 17" tft monitor that can handle 1280x1024 @ 75 hz so i figuer id hav to change my xf86config-4
[09:51] <cam> sudo mkdir?
[09:51] <robitaille> cam:  then install the latest firefox in that directory in /usr/local
[09:51] <kain> raymond, have you tried, if using hoary+gnome, to use the utility to change display resolution?
[09:51] <crimsun> Roey: yep, you'll have to --force-overwrite, remember?
[09:52] <kain> system -> preferences
[09:52] <robitaille> mkdir = make directory.   Sudo = run as super user to be able to write in /usr/local
[09:52] <kain> screen resolution
[09:52] <raymond> i changed the sub section into  SubSection "Display"
[09:52] <raymond>                 Depth           24
[09:52] <raymond>                 Modes           "1280x1024"
[09:52] <raymond>         EndSubSection
[09:52] <raymond>  but now it ll only do 1152x768 @55 hz
[09:52] <kain> or something similar, I've menus in italian
[09:52] <raymond> yes i tried using that
[09:53] <Roey> crimsun: ok
[09:53] <Roey> crimsun: it overwrote all the stuff we did but heh
[09:53] <Roey> crimsun: I can just rebuild it
[09:53] <drummer87> raymond: look under Section "Monitor"
[09:53] <drummer87> for vert and horiz refresh rates
[09:53] <raymond> i c them
[09:54] <Roey> crimsun: i will reboot now
[09:55] <raymond> Section "Monitor"
[09:55] <raymond>         Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
[09:55] <raymond>         HorizSync       28-49
[09:55] <raymond>         VertRefresh     43-72
[09:55] <raymond>         Option          "DPMS"
[09:55] <raymond> EndSection
[09:55] <cam> I don't inderstand this whole superuser thing...
[09:56] <drummer87> i'm not sure.. should give u op to 72hz, maybe set vertrefresh to a specific value
[09:56] <Lathiat> cam: how so
[09:57] <drummer87> i'm a bit of a newbie too though
[09:57] <raymond> i found in my booklet of my monitor : that the normal range  of my monitor is H: 30-80 KHZ V: 56-77HZ
[09:58] <raymond> can i just fill that in there?
[09:58] <Lathiat> yeh should work
[09:58] <drummer87> should be able to
[09:58] <Lathiat> HorizSync 30-80 // VertRefresh 56-77  -- i guess
[09:59] <kain> someone knows in which package etiquette theme are in?
[09:59] <raymond> ill try that any idea what this is Option          "DPMS"
[09:59] <robitaille> cam: the "sudo" command let you become all-powerful administrator from a command line prompt
[10:00] <cam> ok ok,where and how ?where can I do that>?
[10:00] <robitaille> cam:  so "sudo mkdir"  says to make a directory running as adminstrator;  if you do that without the sudo, the mkdir will fail since as a normal user you don't have write acess to /usr/local
[10:00] <drummer87> Section "Monitor"
[10:00] <drummer87> oops..
[10:00] <raymond> o srry
[10:00] <Phusion> hey guys, my reposatories list is screwed up.. I try running the update manager and it gets 404s when finding urls..
[10:00] <raymond> yes in the same section
[10:00] <kpeterson> after installing pure-ftpd (via apt-get) what steps do I need to take before someone can access my server?
[10:00] <kutucape> raymond: try 31.5-48.5 that's a generic setting, imho
[10:00] <kutucape> kain: gnome-look.org, i guess :)
[10:01] <cam> hmmm>? I think I understand.I thought I was admin?
[10:01] <drummer87> raymond: i think dpms allows linux to turn the monitor off after a time
[10:01] <raymond> a ok
[10:01] <kain> kutucape, mm.. I've installed if from gnome-look and I can't remember it? fun, I must be drunk
[10:01] <drummer87> ie. under the power management settings
[10:01] <dex1> [<newbie]  I've just installed & rebooted but it starts up, tells me everything it's loading and then the screen goes black (monitor has no signal).  Running an Iiyama ProLite E430 monitor with an old S3 card. Can anyone help?
[10:01] <raymond> now i can use crtl alt backspace to test it right?
[10:02] <kain> kutucape, can you do me a favor?
[10:02] <raymond> ill brb thnx
[10:02] <drummer87> yep, that restarts X
[10:03] <Phusion> so... anyone.. how do I fix my reposatories list?
[10:03] <dex1> Oh, I re-ran the config thing too, and it asked me about my keyboard, mouse, monitor etc - whereupon I put in the refresh details etc for the monitor. Rebooted at the end. Still doesn't work tho.
[10:03] <kutucape> kain: what favor? :)
[10:03] <claint> Phusion: what is messed up with it?
[10:03] <Phusion> well I try running the update manager it.. well hold on
[10:03] <hilloki> hey , does anyone here know how to make a grub multi os installer?
[10:04] <Phusion> could not download all repository index
[10:05] <dex1> All the articles I've been able to find about the screen going blank during startup have related to nvidia drivers. But I'm using an old S3 card and an iiyama monitor. :(
[10:05] <dex1> Well, if anyone has suggestions/help for the problem I'm having it will be gratefully recieved.
[10:05] <Phusion> archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/source/Sources.gz could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists
[10:05] <crimsun> dex1: which S3?
[10:06] <raymond> thnx all
[10:06] <raymond> << is a happy man now
[10:06] <raymond> it works
[10:06] <Phusion> duplicatre sources.list entry
[10:06] <dex1> crimsun: It's an S3 Trio I believe.
[10:06] <Liz> is there anyway to remove cups without it removing ubuntu desktop
[10:06] <Liz> ?
[10:07] <dex1> The text file config I saw earlier had the long description (I forget the filename). I've no idea if it autodetected it correctly; definitely an S3 trio of some type tho.
[10:08] <[nrx] > any ndiswrapper guru's awake yet? :p
[10:08] <elmaya> what's the prob?
[10:09] <[nrx] > long version or the short version/
[10:09] <elmaya> short
[10:09] <[nrx] > it doesn't work.
[10:09] <elmaya> long
[10:09] <[nrx] > lol
[10:09] <raymond> i have two other problems tho :s i get this message on startup PCI Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 0000:00:02.1 and my usb ports dont work i guess thats what the error is about tho
[10:10] <[nrx] > k, I don't have the machine in question beside me at the moment, but, i've been trying to get it to work.. i've gotten the right drivers and added them to ndiswrapper, then started the "modprobe ndiswrapper" and the lights don't come on
[10:10] <[nrx] > checking dmesg throws up loads of error messages and someone's suggested to me that the driver's may be wrong
[10:10] <[nrx] > however, they are the drivers for that card from the ndis site
[10:10] <elmaya> pcmcia?
[10:10] <[nrx] > though, i've noticed in dmesg there's errors for hotplug, too
[10:10] <[nrx] > yes
[10:11] <[nrx] > coms backj saying it can't find something like "/var/lib/hotplug/firmware/TX11ACyaddayadda"
[10:11] <elmaya> wich brand? is it supported with ndiswrapper?
[10:11] <drummer87> is anyone here using hoary preview amd64?
[10:11] <[nrx] > DLink DWL-G650+
[10:11] <[nrx] > yes, tis
[10:11] <kutucape> i wonder how to tell apt or synaptic to read archieve fro harddisk
[10:11] <elmaya> mm weird.. i've managed to get my linksys to work even the usb one with ndiswrapper
[10:12] <dex1> Any ideas re non-display, crimsun; or anyone? I had to delete the Windows partition since it was damaged by the install and re-install as just Ubuntu so I'll be sad if it was all in vain! :)
[10:12] <[nrx] > someone told me they had to use a realtek driver for it
[10:12] <kutucape> say, i have archieve from ubuntu repository then i want to update my ubuntu with the package store in harddisk
[10:12] <[nrx] > but i'm damned if i know which one
[10:12] <kutucape> how to add it in source.list?
[10:12] <Echylo> can you download new applets for the gnome panel?
[10:13] <corza> hey guys i have a secondary drive and i was wondering how i can view it.. it's FAT32 format
[10:13] <[nrx] > kutucape "deb file:/path/to warty main restricted"
[10:14] <corza> can someone help me out with my FAT32 drive?
[10:14] <kutucape> [nrx] : so the hoary too, just replace warty with hoary right?
[10:14] <[nrx] > yeah
[10:15] <kutucape> corza: whats up with your FAT32?
[10:15] <kutucape> [nrx] : thanks a lot
[10:15] <kutucape> :)
[10:15] <corza> kutucape: i'm trying to view it because i just put some mp3 files onto it
[10:15] <[nrx] > kutucape, np :)
[10:15] <corza> kutucape: so i sorta wanna copy the files from it but i cant view the drive..
[10:15] <kutucape> corza: just mount it the view it
[10:16] <corza> "unable to mount volume"
[10:16] <Anubis> dircolors: `/etc/DIR_COLORS': No such file or directory
[10:16] <drummer87> corza: add to fstab, /dev/hdb1  /media/name  vfat  rw,umask=0000  0  0
[10:16] <drummer87> then sudo mount -
[10:16] <kutucape> corza: first, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:16] <drummer87> a
[10:16] <drummer87> * sudo mount -a
[10:17] <kutucape> then find the right partition for your FAT32 partition
[10:17] <funky> in which package is the gnome applet that that indicates new packages to upgrade ?
[10:17] <geneo93> drummer87:  you forgot something
[10:17] <corza> kutucape: yes...
[10:17] <drummer87> what?
[10:17] <corza> kutucape: its named /dev/hda3
[10:17] <geneo93> mkdir
[10:17] <drummer87> ah..
[10:17] <kutucape> then create a mount point in /mnt: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[10:17] <drummer87> true
[10:18] <kutucape> then mount it: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/pathto_fat32_partition /mnt/windows
[10:18] <[nrx] > righty
[10:18] <[nrx] > gonna go fire up the ubuntu lappy
[10:18] <[nrx] > bbiba
[10:18] <[nrx] > bbiab, too
[10:18] <kutucape> remember that warty has problem viewing directly this partition after mounted
[10:19] <kutucape> but hoary works
[10:19] <Echylo> lel
[10:19] <corza> kutucape: it says.. wrong fs type..
[10:19] <Roey> crimsun: hi
[10:19] <dex1> Roey: I think I scared crimsun off. Sorry :p
[10:19] <crimsun> Roey: hi
[10:20] <crimsun> dex1: no, was just responding to u-d email
[10:20] <HiddenWolf> Is there a noticable difference in performance between say ext3 and xfs or reiser?
[10:20] <kutucape> corza: maybe wrong partition or your partition is damage
[10:20] <dex1> Heh, sry
[10:20] <kutucape> HiddenWolf: reiserfs for small files, xfs for big files, imho
[10:21] <kutucape> i prefer use resiserfs
[10:21] <kutucape> *reiserfs*
[10:21] <Roey> crimsun:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/QPbSIs30.html
[10:21] <Roey> crimsun: still it didn't boot.
[10:21] <kerframil> I think reiserfs has regressed in 2.6, fwiw
[10:21] <iapx8088> whatis kubuntu
[10:22] <iapx8088> is what I think it is
[10:22] <geneo93> kde
[10:22] <corza> kutucape: but i was just viewing it on windows xp
[10:22] <crimsun> Roey: I really don't know the slightest regarding md/lvm/evms
[10:22] <iapx8088> yup
[10:23] <raymond> i get this message on startup hope u can help me with it: PCI Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 0000:00:02.1 and my usb ports dont work, but i guess thats what the error is about
[10:23] <geneo93> kde 3.4 at that
[10:23] <kutucape> corza: what partition FAT32 have?
[10:23] <kerframil> Roey: the uuid is unique per block device (of course) so that the affinity with a given array can be asserted
[10:23] <Anubis> dircolors: `/etc/DIR_COLORS': No such file or directory? how can I fix this?
[10:23] <Roey> kerframil: it's not that
[10:23] <Roey> kerframil: the stupid thing normally starts...er... I have no idea what's wrong this time.
[10:23] <Roey> kerframil: like... this has been a nightmare for the past two weeks now
[10:24] <Roey> kerframil: all these problems
[10:24] <kerframil> Roey: hmm - you mean it just stopped working?
[10:24] <Roey> kerframil: I apt-got installed a kernel image yesterday (I thought it was the same one I had installed with ubuntu by default)
[10:24] <Roey> kerframil: and I have not rebooted till now
[10:24] <kerframil> ah
[10:25] <Anubis> http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8381
[10:25] <crimsun> dex1: please paste the output of ,,lspci -v'' (without the quotes and commas) onto http://pastebin.ca
[10:25] <kerframil> Roey: so, let me get this straight - you were sucessfully able to assemble the array by booting an older kernel? the newer kernel breaks it?
[10:25] <kerframil> or am I misunderstanding you?
[10:25] <Roey> kerframil: (btw are you an ubuntu dev?)
[10:25] <Roey> kerframil: it's like this:
[10:25] <Roey> kerframil: I installed ubuntu
[10:26] <corza> kutucape: eh? what do u mean
[10:26] <Roey> kerframil: it had errors starting up, ever since.
[10:26] <kerframil> no it any shape or form, no - just a fellow md/lvm2 user
[10:26] <Roey> kerframil: do you want to see the error I got originally (when the system was booting, at least?)
[10:26] <kerframil> Roey: sure
[10:26] <corza> kutucape: it could be just FAT but im pretty sure its FAT32
[10:26] <Roey> kerframil: I have /, /boot and /home on raid1.
[10:27] <dex1> crimsun, will do. Should I prefix it with sudo?
[10:27] <crimsun> dex1: no need for sudo
[10:27] <dex1> k
[10:27] <Roey> kerframil: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Fge1i993.html
[10:27] <corza> kutucape: can i formate the whole drive from partitions and everything somehow?
[10:28] <Roey> crimsun: I see there are multiple kernel images... see this:
[10:28] <kutucape> try: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[10:28] <geneo93> crimsun:  what log did you tell me to look at for kppp
[10:28] <kerframil> Roey: I see
[10:28] <dex1> crimsun: er. it's a page long; I see it now. It's on the (other) computer next to me. i.e. there're two screens. is there a way I can pipe the lspci to a disk in the floppy drive? (and then put the floppy in this online pc to paste onto the pastebin)
[10:28] <crimsun> geneo93: /var/log/daemon.log
[10:29] <kpeterson> can anyone help me set up an ftp server?
[10:29] <dex1> Otherwise I can retype it all I guess.
[10:29] <Uscfan> vsfypd
[10:29] <Uscfan> vsftpd*
[10:29] <geneo93> k thx
[10:29] <Uscfan> :)
[10:29] <corza> is there  a way i can format my whole hard drive including partitions?
[10:29] <corza> secondary hard drive
[10:29] <kutucape> corza: don't format or you loose all your data
[10:29] <Roey> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sdVfHg31.html
[10:30] <corza> kutucape: yes i want to do that
[10:30] <crimsun> dex1: sure. lspci -v > /media/floppy0/logfile.txt
[10:30] <corza> kutucape: all i have to do is go back into windows and put all the songs back on
[10:30] <dex1> merci. on it
[10:30] <kutucape> hmm
[10:31] <wfx> hi, i miss some device on my desktop, if i open places/computers there is show as XYGB Device: XY Media, and when i restart dbus all is fine. so i think the runlevel of dbus is wrong how can i change it.
[10:31] <wfx> system i hoary
[10:31] <wfx> +s
[10:31] <wfx> :)
[10:31] <crimsun> wfx: it's a _bad_ idea to fiddle with the numbering of services startup
[10:31] <corza> kutucape: is there a way?
[10:32] <crimsun> wfx: have you checked bugzilla for dbus-1 entries?
[10:32] <wfx> crimsun, not yet
[10:33] <wfx> is this the right addres: http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/ ?
[10:33] <dex1> crimsun: Sorry, when I type (w/out quote marks) "lspci -v >/media/floppy0/logfile.txt" ,
[10:33] <wfx> no it is :)
[10:33] <crimsun> wfx: that's the listing.  You want http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <dex1> I get...
[10:34] <corza> kutucape: you there?
[10:34] <wfx> yes thx
[10:34] <Roey> crimsun:  given the /var/cache/apt/archives listing I showed you, is it possible that the kernel image I got yesterday and the initrd image that was installed by default are out of sync?
[10:34] <dex1> crimsun: -bash /home/username/.....logfile.txt no such file or directory
[10:35] <crimsun> Roey: unlikely...
[10:35] <crimsun> dex1: err, that's odd.  What command did you type?
[10:36] <dex1> crimsun: (w/out quote marks) "lspci -v >/media/floppy0/logfile.txt" . I'll try it under root. There's a floppy in the drive with space on it, formatted under windows but otherwise fine :)
[10:37] <wfx> there is no bug about dbus-1 in bugzilla, ok i think i should add one, right ;-)
[10:37] <crimsun> wfx: search for "dbus" or "gnome-volume-manager" then
[10:37] <Roey> crimsun: dan, where are you in the US?  california?
[10:37] <crimsun> Roey: NC.
[10:37] <dex1> under root it doesn't say anything. but then it doesn't copy the output to the floppy either
[10:37] <wfx> 7292 and 6282 does not match
[10:37] <Roey> crimsun: aaaah so it's the same time as MD for you...
[10:37] <crimsun> dex1: just gives you a prompt?
[10:37] <corza> OI!
[10:37] <crimsun> Roey: indeed
[10:38] <[nrx_] > so.. who's up for a bit of ndiswrapper problem solving or sound problem solving.. take your pick :)
[10:38] <Roey> crimsun:  may I pm you?
[10:38] <crimsun> dex1: that's what it's supposed to do (give you a prompt back)
[10:38] <crimsun> Roey: if it's Ubuntu-related, I'd rather keep it in-channel
[10:38] <[nrx_] > perverts ;p
[10:39] <Roey> crimsun: wanted to see if you could talk voice
[10:39] <dex1> crimsun: yep but i exited back to the username now and it gives the path with 'permission denied'. still no copy-eth to the floppy
[10:39] <corza> can someone help me with my secondary hard drive i want to format the whole thing partitions and all
[10:40] <Lathiat> corza: try gparted
[10:40] <crimsun> dex1: are you able to list the contents of that directory?
[10:40] <crimsun> Roey: heavily firewalled, sorry.
[10:40] <Roey> crimsun: Shouldn't getting the system in working order just take installing the right kernel?
[10:40] <Lathiat> corza: installable from universe
[10:40] <corza> Lathiat: thanks dude
[10:40] <crimsun> Roey: if it worked from a Ubuntu-compiled kernel before, yes.
[10:40] <Roey> crimsun: "talk on the phone", rather
[10:40] <Roey> crimsun: yes it was the ubuntu image I downloaded....
[10:41] <Roey> crimsun: adn the thing doesn't boot
[10:41] <Roey> crimsun: so I'm wondering what can be wrong
[10:41] <Roey> kerframil: hi
[10:41] <kerframil> Roey: yo
[10:41] <Roey> kerframil: were there any special things you had to configure to be able to boot?
[10:42] <kerframil> Roey: the reason I piped up is because it was reminiscent of something I've encountered before - but not in Ubuntu (I'm a very new user of Ubuntu)
[10:42] <dex1> crimsun: Yes, I can list the directory. "ls /media/floppy0/" returns logfile.txt on a line. "nano blahpath/logfile.txt" does show the contents of the file.
[10:42] <kerframil> Roey: that issue was to do with the naming scheme of block devices changing depending on different kernel configurations (i.e. /dev/sdd becomes /dev/sdc or such)
[10:43] <kpeterson> can anyone help me ste up an FTP server for anonymous access?
[10:43] <wfx> ups, there a lot more bug, so i must read more or less all before i add a new one.... (cost a lot of time)
[10:43] <Roey> kerframil: ok
[10:43] <kerframil> Roey: checking something else ... 1 sec
[10:44] <Roey> kerframil: is your / on raid1?
[10:44] <crimsun> dex1: ok, then you can paste it onto pastebin, no?
[10:44] <kerframil> Roey: no, but I have done so before (again, not Ubuntu - key difference being I always build my own kernels)
[10:44] <crimsun> Roey: have you confirmed you're actually booting the correct kernel?
[10:44] <dex1> crimsun: online, IRC-ness, windows + me typing on now = PC1.  while PC2=ubuntu, not online, has file on it ;)
[10:45] <kerframil> Roey: you use / on RAID, that means your kernel needs to support md from the off
[10:45] <kerframil> Roey: in the case of Ubuntu's kernel, md is as a kernel module
[10:45] <kerframil> Roey: so you'd obviously need to make sure your initrd was in shape; that's not something I'm overly familiar with though
[10:45] <Roey> kerframil: ok
[10:45] <dex1> does the floppy drive on the other PC need 'mounting' before it'd work or something? :/
[10:46] <Roey> kerframil: well... I am used to building my own kernels HOWEVER I realized that LILO flat-out doesn't work for me
[10:46] <Roey> kerframil: in Ubuntu
[10:46] <kerframil> Roey: lilo?
[10:46] <Roey> kerframil: I suspect LILO has problems with AMD64-mode on my MSI neo k8t fis2r motherboard.
[10:46] <kerframil> Roey: but Ubuntu uses grub, no?
[10:46] <Roey> kerframil: but I installed LILO on i.
[10:46] <kerframil> Roey: ah
[10:46] <Roey> kerframil: I wanted to get past this kernel mess that I'm in now :)
[10:46] <kerframil> it has been a very _long_ time since I've used lilo ;)
[10:46] <Roey> kerframil: I'm much more used to using lilo
[10:47] <Roey> kerframil: grub... man
[10:47] <Roey> kerframil, crimsun: maybe the solution is just to build a kernel that has the raid drivers in it
[10:47] <geneo93> nite all
[10:47] <Roey> kerframil, crimsun:  instead of on an irdinit image
[10:47] <dex1> nite geneo
[10:47] <Roey> crimsun: how do I check?
[10:47] <kerframil> Roey: that'd be the first thing I'd try - a kernel that has all pre-requisite support *statically* built in
[10:48] <crimsun> Roey: cat /proc/version
[10:48] <kerframil> Roey: at the very least, you could rule out this concern as an avenue of inquiry!
[10:48] <Roey> crimsun: well...I'm on a kanotix64 livecd now (remember I could't boot the system)
[10:48] <Roey> kerframil: right
[10:49] <Roey> crimsun: so the current kernel verison (kanotix, remmeber) is: Linux version 2.6.10-kanotix64-8 (root@Kanotix) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)) #1 Wed Feb 2 20:30:09 CET 2005
[10:49] <ruby_mncl> guys... need help with a new installation... i finnaly got Xserver to start, but the computer gets stuck after 1-2 seconds... the mouse isnt moving and the keybord is not reacting (even hitting num lock key wont turn the num lock light on or off), same thing happend several times in text mode too but in X it happends all the time...
[10:49] <crimsun> Roey: so how about using the kanotix kernel and specifying your rootfs at the prompt?
[10:49] <crimsun> Roey: (similar to a rescue cd)
[10:50] <kevin> Hi, my hotplug does not automatically recognise my external usb hard drives as hard drives in Places > My Computer
[10:50] <Roey> crimsun: because then...
[10:50] <crimsun> kevin: do they appear after you invoke: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart
[10:50] <Roey> crimsun: 1) I can't install the wacom drivers,
[10:50] <Roey> crimsun: 2) it still won't work (it'd give another error)
[10:50] <Roey> crimsun: the kanotix kernel also uses an rdinit image.
[10:51] <kevin> crimsun: no
[10:51] <crimsun> Roey: (1) you only need to compile the drivers (installing can occur after you reboot into the proper kernel)
[10:51] <caffinated> does anyone know how to give permission to a regular user to start a second X display?  (i'm trying to run a game on a second X server)
[10:51] <crimsun> Roey: (2) which is?
[10:51] <caffinated> it works if i run it as root, but not my regular user.  i'd prefer not to run the game with root permissions
[10:52] <Roey> crimsun:I've tried with the kanotix kernel, it just gives some other stupid error.
[10:52] <corza> how do i format on gparted?
[10:52] <Roey> crimsun: I've already tried booting to kanotix.
[10:52] <dex1> I think it v. probably that the floppy drive isn't recognised. I changed to the /media/floppy0 directory and the files viewable. I just can't get it *out* of there and *onto* the floppy. So I can open the txt file from the floppy on this second (online) PC and paste it into the pastebin.
[10:53] <wfx> crimsun, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8269 hope i do it right.
[10:53] <corza> How do i format a drive on GPARTED?
[10:53] <Lathiat> corza: right click it and hit new
[10:53] <crimsun> kevin: are those external drives mounted?
[10:54] <Roey> crimsun: lemme boot to the kanotix kernel and i'll tell you the error, ok?
[10:54] <wfx> ogra, hi :-)
[10:54] <crimsun> Roey: ok
[10:54] <Lathiat> corza: after selecting the right drive in the selector in the top right
[10:54] <Roey> crimsun:  btw, I thoguth you were in California b/c you were up right now
[10:54] <kevin> crimsun: Yes
[10:54] <Roey> happy & solemn easter to you, wfx
[10:54] <randabis> corza, you have to make sure the drive is not mounted, and then use the right-click menu
[10:55] <randabis> gparted will unmount drives for you as long as they aren't busy
[10:55] <coreDumped69> xinerama = evil
[10:56] <crimsun> wfx: please add more information, such as the output from ,,mount''
[10:56] <crimsun> kevin: where are those partitions mounted?
[10:56] <kevin> in /media/DATA and /media/DOWNLOADS
[10:57] <corza> randabis: i did that and it done something but didnt do much lol i cant FORMAT It
[10:58] <crimsun> kevin: and you have permission to access files in those directories?
[10:59] <kevin> crimsun: Yes
[11:00] <kevin> crimsun: this is a fresh install of ubuntu btw
[11:00] <crimsun> kevin: from preview or array ?
[11:00] <beowu1f> any south african users here?
[11:01] <kevin> preview
[11:01] <crimsun> kevin: and it's current, as in you updated && dist-upgraded within the last hour?
[11:02] <kevin> no
[11:03] <crimsun> kevin: please do that.  Hoary is a moving target until 6 April, 2005.  =)
[11:03] <kevin> :)
[11:03] <kevin> what happens 6 April, crimsun  ?
[11:04] <apokryphos> kevin: Hoary final!
[11:04] <kevin> Oh
[11:04] <kevin> goody
[11:04] <[nrx_] > spot the idiot who's compiling the drivers for every single sound card under alsa
[11:04] <[nrx_] > :/
[11:04] <wfx> crimsun, better?
[11:05] <Roey> crimsun: hello again
[11:05] <kevin> bleh, just figured out i'm on smallband
[11:05] <Roey> crimsun: so this is the message that I get when I boot kanotix kernel:
[11:05] <Roey> crimsun: Kernel panic - not syncing \n VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(9,2)
[11:06] <[nrx_] > i got that
[11:06] <kevin> crimsun: thank you for your help, i will apt-get upgrade and dist-update tomorrow when i'm back on broadband
[11:06] <kevin> ttyl
[11:06] <crimsun> kevin: ok
[11:06] <crimsun> Roey: erm, ok.  Can you try booting off the Kubuntu disc?
[11:06] <Roey> crimsun: ok
[11:07] <Roey> crimsun: but kubuntu disc probably doesn't have the chroot and all that stuff.
[11:07] <Roey> crimsun: lemme do that now.
[11:07] <[nrx_] > is he trying to setup dualboot or something?
[11:08] <crimsun> wfx: yes, looks better.  If more info is needed, it will be requested.  Thanks.  :)
[11:09] <crimsun> [nrx_] : boot into his /, which is on md
[11:09] <[nrx_] > i see
[11:09] <[nrx_] > any particular reason why he's disconnecting constantly?
[11:09] <crimsun> rebooting causes that  :)
[11:10] <[nrx_] > so, he's doing all this on the same machine then
[11:10] <crimsun> I believe so
[11:10] <[nrx_] > makes sense now, see
[11:12] <DrGonzo_iXi> i need help setting up pppoe.i'm never used linux before ubuntu,some one plz help
[11:12] <drummer87> hey, is anyone here using hoary preview amd64?
[11:13] <Roey> crimsun, hi
[11:14] <Roey> crimsun:  ok, now I am in gnome/ubuntu (that's what I had for livecd)
[11:14] <drummer87> no?
[11:14] <drummer87> or x86?
[11:15] <crimsun> drummer87: I've used it, why?
[11:15] <drummer87> i don't have sdb in /dev, but i should right?
[11:15] <Roey> crimsun, should I just copy now the ubuntu kernel?
[11:15] <crimsun> drummer87: you have two scsi storage devices?
[11:15] <Roey> crimsun, does it matter if it is ubuntu/hoary or kubunt/hoary?
[11:16] <crimsun> Roey: no, as long as the deb is present
[11:16] <Roey> ok
[11:16] <drummer87> crimsun: sda is sata drive and i need sdb for usb flash drive
[11:16] <Roey> crimsun, ubuntu livecd doesn't seem to have a /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:16] <crimsun> drummer87: /dev/sdb should appear after you plug in the usb flash device
[11:16] <smurfix> drummer87: you using udev?
[11:16] <drummer87> i try to mount usb drive but get error 'special device /dev/sdb does not exist'
[11:17] <smurfix> drummer87: Is it llisted in /proc/partitions?
[11:17] <drummer87> what's udev and how do i use it?
[11:17] <RuffianSoldier> omg - i havetn done an apt-get upgrade in ages :(
[11:17] <crimsun> hum, sata...
[11:17] <smurfix> drummer87: It's a package.
[11:18] <Roey> crimsun,  do you know where thekernel package is in ubuntu?
[11:18] <smurfix> drummer87: You're using it if it is installed ;-)
[11:18] <Roey> crimsun, off the ubuntu livecd that is?
[11:18] <crimsun> Roey: err, as a deb? I don't know
[11:18] <dex1> crimsun: Success! :) I found a tutorial on mounting floppies and fumbled around, eventually getting to the point where I'm about to paste it into pastebin. Shall I click "Submit Post" there now?
[11:18] <Roey> crimsun, (that iswhat you asked for, right?0
[11:18] <crimsun> dex1: yes.
[11:18] <smurfix> Roey: linux-image-*
[11:19] <crimsun> Roey: I don't know if the livecd actually keeps a copy of the deb, which is what you'd need to dpkg -i
[11:19] <Roey> smurfix, where can I get that off the ubuntu livecd.
[11:19] <Roey> crimsun, ok
[11:19] <dex1> crimsun: yep, it worked. http://pastebin.ca/8305.
[11:19] <Alessio> sorry
[11:19] <Myrtti> I've managed to screw my Rhythmbox up. I see only about one third of the network shares that are on my SO's Windows XP. Any ideas?
[11:19] <Alessio> my boot partiton is full
[11:19] <Alessio> 100%
[11:19] <Alessio> what can i do?
[11:19] <wfx> the "Submit Data... to ubuntu device database" feature is great but it fails to send an option to open the email client with the right email address would be nice
[11:20] <Roey> crimsun:  linux-image-2.6.10-4-amd64-generi 2.6.10-25.2                       Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on x86_64.
[11:20] <Roey> crimsun:  ii  linux-image-amd64-generic         2.6.10-5                          Linux kernel image on x86_64.
[11:20] <Roey> crimsun, that's it
[11:20] <Roey> crimsun, that's the one I think.
[11:20] <drummer87> smurfix: udev installed, but i can't find /proc/partitions
[11:20] <smurfix> Roey: On the livecd, the kernel is in the /install folder
[11:21] <Roey> smurfix:  /install is where? under /?
[11:21] <Roey> smurfix, Idon't see it there
[11:21] <smurfix> Roey: It's on the CD, not the live file system
[11:21] <smurfix> Roey: You need to mount the CD first
[11:21] <Alessio> smurfix, my boot partiton is full, what can i do?
[11:21] <Roey> oik
[11:21] <smurfix> Alessio: delete something :-/
[11:21] <Alessio> what?
[11:21] <Roey> smurfix, /cdrom/install
[11:22] <Alessio> what can i delete?
[11:22] <Alessio> old linux image?
[11:22] <smurfix> Alessio: /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[11:22] <drummer87> smurfix: this is dmesg output when i plug in drive:
[11:22] <drummer87> ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: port 1 reset error -110
[11:22] <Alessio> no..
[11:22] <drummer87> hub 3-0:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -32)
[11:22] <Roey> smurfix, I'm booted off the livecd, I can't mount anything at the oment :)
[11:22] <smurfix> Roey: Sure you can
[11:22] <Roey> how
[11:23] <smurfix> Roey: Open a terminal window, sudo mount -r /dev/cdrom /mnt
[11:23] <Alessio> smurfix, this dir /boot is the boot partition
[11:23] <wfx> hmm, the hwdb_data.xml is not well formed should i send a bug?
[11:23] <smurfix> Alessio: ah
[11:24] <Alessio> smurfix, if i delete /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb, i don't resolve my problem
[11:24] <Roey> smurfix:  first off I have something mounted in /mnt/md2, so I created a /mnt/cd
[11:24] <Roey> smurfix:  like this:  root@ubuntu:/cdrom# mkdir /mnt/cd && mount -r /cdrom /mnt/cd
[11:24] <Roey> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:24] <drummer87> crimsun: why the hum, sata
[11:24] <smurfix> Alessio: how big is your /boot anyway
[11:25] <crimsun> drummer87: I was trying to recall an issue I saw described regarding those symptoms
[11:25] <Roey> smurfix, so how do I do it then?
[11:25] <smurfix> Roey: mount -t iso9660 ...
[11:25] <Roey> mount -t iso9660 /cdrom /mnt/cd ???
[11:25] <drummer87> anyhow.. how can i get sdb in /dev, it just isn't there anywhere. on hd install and live cd
[11:25] <Roey> smurfix, like that?
[11:26] <drummer87> or where else can i mount the usb drive?
[11:26] <smurfix> Roey: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cd
[11:26] <crimsun> drummer87: try: pmount /dev/sdb1 foo
[11:26] <crimsun> drummer87: it should appear in /media/foo
[11:26] <pw> Er, can I just say that all my Ubuntu installations are working perfectly and I have no problems at all and thanks a squillion to the devs?
[11:26] <Roey> smurfix, ok it worked... now the kernel image is in pool?
[11:26] <smurfix> drummer87: That error message tells me it can't access your stick for some reason
[11:27] <smurfix> Roey: no, /install
[11:27] <Roey> ok
[11:27] <smurfix> Roey: There's no kernel .deb on the livecd, what for?
[11:27] <pw> I tried the PPC liveCD on my G4 yesterday; everything worked, including my aftermarket wireless NIC.
[11:27] <Roey> smurfix, oh.
[11:27] <crimsun> dex1: is this with Hoary or Warty?
[11:28] <Roey> smurfix, so I can just copy this over to my /boot on my hard disk and run grub-update
[11:28] <Roey> smurfix, this along with the initrd.img
[11:28] <dex1> crims: warty
[11:28] <Roey> smurfix, crimsun: and it'd hopefully work on reboo???
[11:28] <dex1> I only have warty. (from cover CD on magazine)
[11:28] <crimsun> dex1: grep Driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | tail -1
[11:28] <dex1> k doing that now
[11:29] <smurfix> Roey: probably. You should check /boot/grub/menu.lst whether it's there afterwards; if not, edit that file and add it manually
[11:29] <Echylo> to install kernel source its just sudo apt-get install kernel-source ?
[11:29] <crimsun> Echylo: for Hoary?
[11:29] <Alessio> smurfix, /dev/hda5                45781     45756         0 100% /boot
[11:29] <Alessio> too small?
[11:29] <dex1> crimsun: Output of the command is: Driver     "s3"
[11:30] <crimsun> Echylo: linux-source-2.6.10 (Hoary), linux-source-<IP_ADDRESS> (Warty)
[11:30] <crimsun> dex1: ok.  Sec.
[11:30] <smurfix> Alessio: Uh, 45 MB is enough room for a lot of kernels, what's on there??
[11:30] <dex1> k ty
[11:30] <estesoyyo> hello
[11:30] <Alessio> from 2.6.10-2-386
[11:31] <drummer87> crimsun: 'could not determine real path of the device. no such file or directory'
[11:31] <oowf> HI... I am fixing to take the plunge and change over from XP SP2 to Hoary.  Is there a good source where I can go to get software that is basically equal to what I am using now?
[11:31] <Roey> ok
[11:31] <[nrx] > i just stuck the lit end of a ciggy in my mouth
[11:31] <[nrx] > it hurts a lot.
[11:31] <Alessio> <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[11:31] <Alessio>  -<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386 2.6.10-2-386
[11:31] <Alessio>  2.6.10-3-386
[11:31] <Alessio>  2.6.10-4-386
[11:31] <Alessio>  2.6.10-5-386
[11:31] <Alessio>  2.6.10-5-386.new
[11:31] <Roey> crimsun, smurfix:   hopefully ubuntu's kernel can unzip the rdinit.gz
[11:31] <oowf> Or a forum where I can find out these things?
[11:31] <Alessio> too.. kernel
[11:31] <[nrx] > ;o
[11:31] <[nrx] > why'd he go
[11:32] <Roey> crimsun, smurfix:  I reboot now.
[11:32] <smurfix> Roey: sure it can
[11:32] <wfx> Install kernel option ide=reverse does not work or do i anything wrong (linux ide=reverse)?
[11:32] <smurfix> Alessio: so delete a few of them ...
[11:32] <ewing> hi
[11:32] <Alessio> ok
[11:33] <crimsun> dex1: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it looks like support for your chipset was removed in v4
[11:33] <crimsun> dex1: it does work with the older v3.3.6
[11:33] <dex1> v3.3.6 of er what?
[11:33] <crimsun> dex1: XFree86
[11:33] <dex1> "Ah"
[11:33] <crimsun> dex1: please sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:33] <dex1> Suggestions?
[11:33] <drummer87> oh well, hopefully it'll work in the final release
[11:33] <Echylo> thanks crimsun  :)
[11:34] <crimsun> dex1: and choose the "vesa" driver
[11:34] <dex1> ooh ok I'll do that now
[11:34] <pw> Wow. There are people still using S3 cards?
[11:34] <smurfix> Alessio: On my system, each kernel image's initrd is 4MB and the kernel 1.2, so that still doesn't add up to your 45
[11:34] <Alessio> smurfix, but my problem is for anyone that upgrade hoary
[11:34] <crimsun> pw: he's got a TrioV2 - even older :)
[11:34] <dex1> pw: On the old Compaq yeah. On the XP system I'm on now it's a flash ATI card.
[11:35] <pw> Yow. Trio64?
[11:35] <pw> Is that a Deskpro 2500 or thereabouts, then?
[11:35] <dex1> pw: Presario 4600 ;)
[11:35] <Alessio> how is your boot?
[11:35] <lannoo> does someone here
[11:35] <smurfix> Alessio: I just wonder what's on your /boot that's so big. I did upgrade and it's definitely not so on my system
[11:35] <lannoo> have 'Everybody's Weird'
[11:35] <ruby> guys... help... having some problems with apt-get... here is what i get in dist-upgrade: http://rafb.net/paste/results/G6seCu23.html
[11:35] <lannoo> from 'dEUS'?
[11:35] <pw> dex1: I think if I had one of those, I'd have no problem keeping the door open.
[11:36] <smurfix> Alessio: du /boot => 25 MB, and that's with 9 kernels installed
[11:37] <dex1> crimsun: vesa option selected, I presume I leave the identifier 'S3 blahblah [Trio 64V2blah or blah] __' as is?
[11:37] <pw> ruby: try apt-get update again
[11:37] <pw> I had this with one repository, and doing it twice seemed to fix it.
[11:37] <crimsun> dex1: sure.  You only need to change the driver.
[11:37] <dex1> Incidentally, can we be sure it isn't the (new) Iiyama ProLite E430 monitor causing the prob?
[11:37] <ruby> pw: done all... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:38] <crimsun> dex1: not sure, no.  We can consider that if vesa works.
[11:38] <pw> ruby: I mean, do apt-get update twice, then your upgrade and then dist-upgrade.
[11:39] <dex1> okey doke. back at command prompt. do i ctrl-alt-del / type reboot? :) I'm assuming so
[11:39] <dex1> I'll do it now.
[11:40] <crimsun> dex1: no need
[11:40] <crimsun> dex1: just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:40] <dex1> crim: whoops too late ;)
[11:40] <Roey> crimsun, smurfix:  didn't work
[11:41] <topyli> is the openoffice.org2 in hoary usable?
[11:41] <ruby> pw: ok... apt-get update is the one not working propperly...
[11:41] <HiddenWolf> topyli: last I checked, not really
[11:41] <Roey> crimsun, smurfix:  I get the same thing but with a diff. device number:   PANIC not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:41] <dex1> it's doing the boot kernel, acpi: unable to locate rsdp, starting ubuntu blah lots of asterisked items (this is where the monitor went off before until ctrl-alt-f1'd)
[11:41] <topyli> HiddenWolf: yeah, i tried it some time ago, had a couple of crashes
[11:41] <Roey> crimsun:  are you around tomorrow?
[11:41] <Alessio> smurfix, thanks :)
[11:41] <Roey> crimsun:   I need to go to sleep
[11:41] <Roey> crimsun:   this is just *too* stupid
[11:42] <Roey> crimsun:   I don't get why LILO doesn't work for me
[11:42] <Roey> crimsun:   does LILO not know how to boot 64-bit kernels/!?
[11:42] <keffo> :P
[11:42] <crimsun> Roey: yes, I'll be around in ~12 hours
[11:43] <Roey> crimsun:   ok
[11:43] <Roey> what time is it
[11:43] <HiddenWolf> topyli: not much has changed since I had those crashes, or so hoary-changes tells me. :)
[11:43] <crimsun> Roey: err, same time you have...
[11:43] <Roey> whic is
[11:43] <Roey> ?
[11:43] <dex1> crimsun: :( :( :(  it's got corrupted color blocks on it.
[11:43] <Roey> doesn't say here
[11:43] <Roey> it says 09:43 AM
[11:43] <dex1> oh wait now it's back
[11:43] <crimsun> -5
[11:43] <crimsun> (it's on UTC, apparently)
[11:43] <Roey> jesus christ.
[11:43] <Roey> ok
[11:43] <topyli> HiddenWolf: i guess i'll try and find pavel's packages, they're more up to date
[11:44] <Roey> 4:43????
[11:44] <crimsun> yep
[11:44] <smurfix> Roey: Hmm, yes, you probably need to build an initrd with the modules for your system, the livecd's initrd doesn't have disk drivers
[11:44] <Roey> smurfix:   I tried
[11:44] <Roey> smurfix:   I've tried all this shit
[11:44] <Roey> smurfix:   I appreicate your help.  honestly, I've been going in circles for the past two weeks
[11:44] <smurfix> Roey: Which root= option are you passing to the new kernel?
[11:44] <Roey> smurfix:   root=/dev/md2
[11:44] <Roey> smurfix:   the kernel doesn't have raid drivers in it
[11:44] <Roey> smurfix:   statically
[11:45] <Roey> smurfix:   I don't know how it did it before
[11:45] <Roey> smurfix:   now it refuses to boot.
[11:45] <smurfix> Roey: sure, but the initrd should load them. mkinitrd knows how to do that.
[11:45] <smurfix> should know .-/
[11:45] <estesoyyo> i have a problem with kmail ("can't create $HOME/Mail" on startup)
[11:45] <Roey> smurfix:   I don't know anymore
[11:45] <Roey> smurfix:   all find myself an equivalent distribution that defaults to lilo
[11:45] <Roey> amd64
[11:45] <Roey> kde 3.4.0
[11:45] <Roey> xorg
[11:45] <Roey> switch to that.
[11:45] <Roey> enough of this mess.
[11:45] <hgoesm> can i istall the bitdefender AntiVirsu scanne as deb under ubuntu with dpkg -i packagename
[11:46] <Roey> I'll be back in 8 hours.
[11:46] <Roey> bye.
[11:46] <dex1> crimsun: it has a graphical dialog box up. 'error starting XKB configuration. Probably internal X server problem. blah and a close button
[11:46] <hgoesm> i tried it a it does not work
[11:46] <ruby> guys... i have some problems with apt-get... here is the output of apt-get update:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/G6seCu23.html
[11:46] <crimsun> dex1: err... please paste /var/log/XFree86.0.log onto pastebin
[11:46] <pw> dex1: You could always install Debian Potato, which has xf86 3.3.6 :-)
[11:47] <pw> You could then pin the X packages, and dist-upgrade to whatever else you can.
[11:47] <dex1> pw: Debian regular probably is a little advanced for me. Given my probs so far. :>
[11:47] <MemnocH> can any one help me sort out why my Audigy 2 is not working in hoary i386?
[11:48] <Nonphasis> MemnocH, does alsamixer show it?
[11:48] <RuffianSoldier> im running a 500MB apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <RuffianSoldier> havent done it in months
[11:48] <dex1> pw: still, at least my motives for installing *nix are admirable (to contribute to open source stuff)
[11:48] <MemnocH> Nonphasis,  alsamixer fails to load, I know about the unmute the channel issue, unable to get alsa to work...
[11:48] <crimsun> MemnocH: lsmod|grep ^emu10k1
[11:49] <MemnocH> crimsun, nothing show up there
[11:49] <crimsun> MemnocH: ok, then you need a newer version of ALSA
[11:49] <topyli> HiddenWolf: pavel seems to have debs of build 88 from the 24th of this month. i guess you can't get more current than that :)
[11:49] <corza> hey guys.. what program in linux burns audio cd's???
[11:49] <Nonphasis> isn't audigo 10k2 or something more advanced?
[11:49] <Nonphasis> corza, k3b
[11:49] <estesoyyo> corza, k3b, eroaster, ...
[11:49] <MemnocH> crimsun, ok cool, it is packaged? or source building?
[11:49] <corza> best one is.........
[11:49] <estesoyyo> k3b
[11:49] <HiddenWolf> topyli: knowing how 'stable' OO.o1 is, I wouldn't expect much from 2.
[11:49] <corza> kk
[11:50] <[nrx_] > anyone givem e some help with alsa?
[11:50] <[nrx_] > i've installed the drivers, etc, done the modprobe and still i have nothing
[11:50] <[nrx_] > though, there doesn't seem to be any mixers with ubuntu
[11:50] <topyli> HiddenWolf: i just might try it. dunno about stability or speed, but there are many feature improvements
[11:51] <estesoyyo> HiddenWolf, the problem with OO.o is not (only) its being 'stable' but being 'so lightweight' too
[11:51] <pw> MemnocH: I have an Audigy2 that is working correctly with ALSA and the following kernel:
[11:51] <pw> Linux cordelia 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Thu Mar 24 14:58:42 GMT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:51] <MemnocH> ok
[11:51] <Nonphasis> I thought oo.o is rock solid as stability goes
[11:51] <crimsun> MemnocH: / [nrx_] : I'm currently testing an experimental package.  Will let you know in a few minutes.
[11:51] <keffo> is there any good app that emulates mds or isofiles.. just like daemon tools (for windows) does?
[11:51] <MemnocH> pw, 2.6.10-5-k7
[11:51] <Nonphasis> perhaps they broke it recently
[11:52] <[nrx_] > crimsun, k
[11:52] <corza> are you breathing nooo
[11:52] <dmoyne> How to make variables such as JAVA_HOME known to all users including root ; I have put this in "/etc/environment" file but apparently it does not work !
[11:52] <MemnocH> crimsun, ok cool
[11:52] <Nonphasis> keffo, you con mount isos directly
[11:52] <ruby> anyone care to send me his edited source.list?
[11:52] <Nonphasis> keffo, with "loopback" device
[11:52] <pw> dmoyne: Try /etc/profile instead.
[11:52] <[nrx_] > ruby, what are you after?
[11:53] <ruby> i cant get apt to work...
[11:53] <dmoyne> pw, ok I will thanks !
[11:53] <Nonphasis> keffo, "man mount" should help
[11:53] <ruby> http://rafb.net/paste/results/G6seCu23.html
[11:53] <keffo> Nonphasis, doesnt work :<
[11:53] <dmoyne> pw, can I ask you something else ?
[11:53] <crimsun> MemnocH: in the meantime, please tell me the lspci -v information (Device and Subdevice) for your Audigy2
[11:53] <Nonphasis> keffo, you have non-iso images
[11:53] <corza> DISTURBED RULES