[00:00] <Cerealklr> d'oh, calcmandan, what were you using it for? booting?
[00:00] <calcmandan> Cerealklr: well to test how fast it is to boot up as a live cd.
[00:01] <Cerealklr> Ahh, I don't know if this still applies, but the literature suggests that late last year
[00:01] <Cerealklr> USB3.0 boot wasn't possible yet
[00:01] <Cerealklr> which may explain your issue
[00:01] <Cerealklr> if it hasn't yet been resolved, or you're using an old version
[00:01] <calcmandan> well would it prevent the usb disc creator from setting it up as such? i mean, it's just dumping the iso contents onto the volume and creating the boot record.
[00:02] <Cerealklr> No, it definitely should not do that.
[00:02] <calcmandan> in terms of the bios supporting boot on usb3, no idea.
[00:02] <Cerealklr> No, I think its a livedisk issue rather than a BIOS one
[00:02] <Cerealklr> so if normal I/O such as that isn't working
[00:02] <AciD`> I boot from a usb3 key into a usb3 port on my laptop without problem
[00:03] <Cerealklr> then you'll have to look elsewhere for the cause, I suppose
[00:03] <AciD`> perhaps it automatically switch to usb2 mode ?
[00:03] <Cerealklr> That or the issue could have been resolved
[00:03] <Cerealklr> the bug report originated late last year
[00:03] <Cerealklr> and there's beena  good 5 months since then
[00:03] <calcmandan> Cerealklr: well you're absolutely correct.
[00:03] <calcmandan> Cerealklr: i just copied over an 8gb iso file. took 45 seconds.
[00:04] <Cerealklr> Lovely
[00:04] <Cerealklr> How costly was that usb stick, if I may?
[00:04] <calcmandan> Cerealklr: $15 for 32gb
[00:04] <calcmandan> Cerealklr: cyberguys
[00:04] <Cerealklr> For 3.0? Wow, where have I been? I finally get to utilize my 3.0 ports on my trusty P6X58D Premium!
[00:04] <calcmandan> Cerealklr: it's a tech gizmo site, but they have a storefront about a mile from my house.
[00:05] <calcmandan> my two port pci-x usb3 extender was about $25 at another plac.
[00:05] <calcmandan> e
[00:05] <calcmandan> i paid more than i should've, but i needed it.
[00:12] <Cerealklr> Does anyone know where activity templates can be found in KDE4? I need to add one manually.
[00:29] <Joit> Cerealklr:  /join kde
[00:30] <Cerealklr> Joit: Thanks, I'm actually there as well. Kubuntu had just been a bit more active and I reasoned that #kubuntu would be about as knowledgeable and much less quiet. =P
[00:38] <bel3atar> gcc `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-3.0` -o window-default window-default.c `pkg-config --libs gtk+-3.0`
[00:38] <bel3atar> gcc: error: window-default.c: No such file or directory
[00:38] <bel3atar> I have the -dev installed
[00:38] <bel3atar> any ideas?
[00:40] <bel3atar> core.h:12:21: fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[00:40] <bel3atar> :'(
[00:40] <bezgo> so im having the same issue again after i rebooted and what worked before is not workign now
[00:40] <bezgo> cant access my files on my other hd's
[00:41] <Cerealklr> same user account after the reboot?
[00:41] <bezgo> yes
[00:41] <bezgo> i only have one
[00:42] <Cerealklr> just trying to figure out what changed
[00:42] <bezgo> this is irritating to say the least, id like to beable to controll all my files
[00:42] <Cerealklr> can you give us ls -l /media/ ?
[00:42] <bezgo> sure
[00:43] <bezgo> bezgo@Evil-Penguin:~$ ls -l /media/
[00:43] <bezgo> total 4
[00:43] <bezgo> d-wx--x--x 17 bezgo bezgo 4096 May  7 18:54 Storage & Backup
[00:44] <Cerealklr> okay, you own the hdd, but don't seem to have read privileges on it
[00:44] <Cerealklr> which seems strange
[00:44] <bezgo> sudo chmod +r /media/Storage\ \&\ Backup/
[00:44] <bezgo> fixed it
[00:44] <Cerealklr> yep
[00:44] <bezgo> i know a bit but ive still lots to learn for linux
[00:44] <Cerealklr> heh, no worries
[00:44] <Cerealklr> we all started there
[00:44] <Cerealklr> I've only used it as my main OS for ~2 years now
[00:44] <bezgo> im glad i found it the more i use it the more i dislike windows
[00:45] <Cerealklr> and wasn't even introduced to it until ~4 years ago
[00:45] <bezgo> i keep windows arround for one thing and one thing only
[00:45] <bezgo> windows games
[00:45] <Cerealklr> Yepp, but each day WINE gets better
[00:45] <bezgo> omg i agree
[00:45] <Cerealklr> and they're making a steam client for linux
[00:45] <bezgo> it can run steam for me now
[00:45] <Cerealklr> pretty soon you won't even need that. =]
[00:45] <bezgo> but not my source games
[00:45] <Cerealklr> ^^^
[00:45] <bezgo> but to be fair windows cant either, my comp sucks
[00:45] <Cerealklr> Heh
[00:45] <Cerealklr> true enough
[00:45] <bezgo> i have no dedi gfx card
[00:46] <Cerealklr> May disappear, screwing with activities trying to fix a griddesktop issue
[00:46] <bezgo> lol so i tried slackware64 13.37
[00:46] <bezgo> crashed all over the place on a fresh install
[01:14] <GH0> Does anyone have any recommendations for a program that can host a CD/DVD Iso and emulate it across an iSCSI protocol? I need something similar to have a Windows machine connect to it so that it sees the CD/DVD as a Drive.
[01:19] <derrick13> Greetings all, I am having problems with kmail  synching kmail and google calendar. Google contacts synch well. I keep getting this error... akonadi_gcal_resource_4: Failed to retrieve events.
[01:25] <amason> derrick13: can you describe the process for replicating the error ? If so i may be able to help debug the issue.
[01:27] <derrick13> amason: Thanks for the reply. I create a google calendar (akonadi). Once I restart Kmail, in its efforts to synch mail and calendar events, i get the aforementioned error.
[01:28] <amason> derrick13: i've never set up a google calander in akonadi, do you just use the ical resource ?
[01:28] <amason> i have my own calendar service which i use so i am unfamiliar with the process
[01:28] <derrick13> no, there is  a specific google calendar akonadi resource
[01:29] <amason> i don't appear to have that
[01:29] <derrick13> let me get the specific package name
[01:29] <amason> ok
[01:29] <amason> akonadi-kde-resource-googledata ?
[01:31] <amason> derrick13: ok i have it going , will see if i can work out why its dying
[01:31] <derrick13> ok, thanks for the help.
[01:33] <GH0> Does anyone know of a program that allows me to do this ( http://support.alcohol-soft.com/documentation/english/index.html?iscsi.htm ) in Linux? Attempting to find a way to map iso images to be used as iSCSI devices, so I have something that looks like a CD/DVD Device rather than a file system or hard drive.
[01:37] <amason> derrick13: do you happen to have multiple calenders in gmail ?
[01:39] <derrick13> I do have multiple calendars
[01:40] <derrick13> Do you think that is an issue?
[02:10] <xixor>  yo, will I come to regret installing packages from the kubuntu ppa?
[02:22] <mkquist> does kubuntu use unity?
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> No
[02:39] <xixor> yo, what is the windows key + tab doing when I push it?
[02:40] <xixor> or what is the windows key called in linux now?  The super key? super key+tab?  It appears to cycle through some sort of workspace setup, but I am not sure what it is doing
[02:55] <rockl> Is anyone else getting no video from flash even though the audio still works?
[03:06] <rockl> If it helps I did try chromium and firefox as well html5 and a flash reinstall but still no video.
[03:06] <rockl> The audio works, and even the recommendations at the end work too which is wierd.
[03:09] <rapidsp> nvidia?
[03:11] <rockl> In case that was for me no, amd. I'm using the open driver though.
[03:13] <rapidsp> some peaple was same problem with nvidia....
[03:16] <rockl> Oh well, I'll try again tomorrow, thanks.
[03:23] <rockl> I fixed it, you have to leave the html5 trial manually.
[03:23] <rockl> It defaults to it even if you have flash.
[03:25] <rockl> html5 still won't work though, at least in my case.
[03:25] <Cerealklr> rockl: won't work? In both chromium and firefox? Have you tried chrome? (not that I can imagine why it would be any different).
[03:26] <Cerealklr> Seems strange that html5 would be failing on your system. I thought that was rather abstracted away from the hardware level.
[03:27] <rockl> No idea, I did try on rekonq, firefox, and chromium. flash works but html5 doesn't give me video, audio works fine and I can even move around in the video
[03:27] <vilem> some reason
[03:27] <rockl> I know because, well, the audio changes.
[03:28] <Cerealklr> right, right
[03:28] <Cerealklr> nvidea? Radeon?
[03:28] <Cerealklr> nvidia*
[03:29] <rockl> radeon though didn't it change? anyway it's an hd6850 open driver.
[03:29] <rockl> with*
[03:29] <Cerealklr> I was about to ask whether it was the proprietary or open driver
[03:30] <Cerealklr> Hmm, I wonder if its an open driver issue? I know they've come a long way, but my last experience with the open driver was still troublesome
[03:32] <rockl> Open has always worked fine for me.
[03:36] <Cerealklr> Hmmm
[03:36] <Cerealklr> ah well, just so long as you have a solution I suppose it doesn't matter
[03:40] <rockl> Agreed, thanks for the help.
[04:57] <Aperion> hello all, I must appologize for the newbie question, I am trying to associate magnet links with fatrat.
[04:58] <Aperion> I have searched around but most solutions talk about associations within firfox, does any one have references for system wide solutions ?
[05:38] <aniro> всем ку)
[07:00] <jessie> Why does my KDE occasionally lose a lot of my settings?
[07:00] <jessie> It wants to create a new wallet file, all of my widgets and plasma settings are gone, etc.
[07:02] <Tm_T> jessie: sounds like it has lost some of the contents of your .kde folder
[07:05] <jessie> But it hasn't. My wallet and other files are still there.
[07:05] <jessie> I'm looking into permissions now.
[07:14] <W8uiE5> how can i switch between keyboard languages? just tried system properties->keyboard settings->keyboard layouts and added japan. than i switched to japan with the mini program symbol, but i didn get japan symboals, when i use my keyboard.
[07:20] <W8uiE5> no one?
[07:21] <gsommer> Since the latest Kubuntu update I cannot use the arrow-keys to navigate through search-results in the menu. How can I re-enable that?  (Steps: ctrl+f1, type "net" (You'll get several results), try to use arrow-up/arrow-down to navigate through the results)
[07:24] <agams> test
[07:24] <agams> hello
[07:26] <agams> sunyi
[07:27] <agams> HALLO HALLO HALLO HALLO HALLO HALLO
[07:31] <bezgo> hello
[07:31] <bezgo> im having issues is anyone arround to try n help?
[07:31] <agams> HELLO
[07:31] <bezgo> i simply can not manage to install my graphics drivers
[07:32] <bezgo> it wont ask me for pw so it never gives me root permisions
[07:35] <agams> Sorry I did not understand,,, maybe they can help you ..
[07:38] <bezgo> under system then additional drivers, i can not install my drivers, i cant start the program with admin rights
[07:45] <Wizard> Hi.
[07:47] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:53] <bezgo> sudo jockey-kde was what i needed to run
[08:24] <rotsy> hello guys
[08:24] <rotsy> i'm using kubuntu 11.10
[08:24] <rotsy> and i would like to upgrade to 12.04
[08:25] <rotsy> the update manager won't work can anyone please help
[08:26] <lordievader> rotsy: Try to do: sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:26] <rotsy> lordievader:  ok, thanks i'll try that
[08:29] <lordievader> Brb, gonna reboot.
[08:38]  * lordievader returns
[10:15] <Guest69378> HI~everybody
[10:16] <mydogsnameisrudy> hya
[10:18] <lordievader> Hello
[10:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning lordievader
[10:23] <kbroulik> on my acer aspire 3820, standby suddenly stopped working. yesterday evening when I put it to standby it went to sleep, and resumed properly (it takes long with lots of dmesg error output but it wakes up fine)
[10:23] <kbroulik> but now, I put it to standby, the WiFi shuts down, Sound shuts down … and then sound goes on, and wifi goes on again
[10:23] <kbroulik> it won't go to standby :(
[11:51] <hazamonzo_> Hey folks. Is there an i can use to quickly blank out parts of my desktop for taking screenshots? There is a KDE Mouse MArk effert but i need to blur out regions and this Mouse Mark is only a pencil
[11:52] <hazamonzo_> *an app
[12:50] <abhinav> ?
[12:50] <maco_> hello
[12:50] <abhinav> hi, Sorry for the question mark
[12:50] <abhinav> was a typo :D
[12:51] <abhinav> anyway
[12:51] <maco_> I am second day user of kubuntu
[12:52] <abhinav> i m using it for more than 7 months now
[12:52] <abhinav> 6 hours of battery life on a acer!!
[12:53] <lordievader> That is quite nice!
[12:54] <lordievader> Maybe I should convert my dynamic disk on my laptop...
[12:55] <abhinav> i think you should.
[12:56] <lordievader> Let's see how much trouble it is...
[12:56] <abhinav> how old is ur laptop?
[12:56] <lordievader> It quite new actually, an HP Elitebook 8560w, about a year old.
[12:57] <lordievader> Anyone here with experience converting a dynamic to a basic disk in windows?
[12:59] <abhinav> i think
[12:59] <abhinav> you should try disk management
[12:59] <abhinav> right click and see
[13:00] <abhinav> if theres an option on dynamic disks
[13:00] <lordievader> Crap why can you go one way without losing data but not the other way...
[13:02] <abhinav> microsoft :D
[13:02] <lordievader> So it seems
[13:04] <abhinav> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26829-convert-dynamic-disk-basic-disk.html
[13:04] <abhinav> have a look
[13:05] <lordievader> I've already read that...
[13:06] <lordievader> Not really keen on reinstalling windows... (again)
[13:06] <abhinav> sad
[13:11] <lordievader> Well I'm going to screw around with it for a bit, cya
[13:29] <onosendi> Is there somewhere you can point me where I can get some advanced info on the desktop, such as panels and stuff? Everywhere I search it's basic right click stuff.
[13:30] <tsimpson> what kind of info?
[13:32] <onosendi> Hmm, stuff like scripting custom drop down menus
[13:34] <tsimpson> onosendi: #kde-devel would probably be the best source for that kind of information
[13:34] <onosendi> For example, the "Window Menubar" widget kde comes with. What languages are those widgets written in?
[13:34] <onosendi> Thanks man
[13:35] <asfyxia_> I can give you one drop-down menu, that's yakuake (drop-down terminal), in the repos
[13:35] <onosendi> asfyxia_: I've messed with it..
[13:36] <asfyxia_> ok, just mentioning...
[13:38] <onosendi> Thanks :)
[13:43] <steven_> d
[13:52] <madrov> #ubuntu
[13:53] <madrov> where can i get some help? after installing ubuntu 12.04 my webcam stoped working
[14:01] <susie22> hi, I just installed 12.04 64-bits kubuntu and I need oracle java on it
[14:01] <susie22> will apps works with 7th version of it ? or there are some known issues ?
[15:19] <kubuntu> hola
[15:19] <kubuntu> privet
[15:19] <kubuntu> hi
[15:19] <kubuntu> barev
[15:20] <kubuntu> hi
[15:20] <BluesKaj> hellp
[15:20] <BluesKaj> err hello
[15:20] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:20] <kubuntu> hello
[15:20] <kubuntu> quen habla espa;ol
[15:22] <Ezim> kubuntu, no.
[15:22] <kubuntu> como que no _
[15:22] <BluesKaj> !es | kubuntu
[15:23] <kubuntu> rusos
[15:24] <kubuntu> est ruskie
[15:24] <kubuntu> moskow
[15:25] <Ezim> BluesKaj, I think this dude are trolling around.
[15:25] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:28] <technikengel> Moin
[15:28] <technikengel> I search for a good Email Client found thunderbird (i can not greate a Signatur) I need a good client.
[15:30] <designbybeck> When using Kopete, I try blocking people, but they always come back
[15:30] <designbybeck> so each time I restart my system I have to block all those people again! Anyway to change this?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> in irc , designbybeck ?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> in irc , designbybeck ?
[15:31] <designbybeck> Kopete, BluesKaj I use it for Facebook, YahooIM,GTalk
[15:31] <BluesKaj> oops , repeating myself again
[15:31] <designbybeck> I think it is YahooIM and MSN people
[15:32] <technikengel> E-Mail i need E-Mail please
[15:32] <maco> i usually use kmail if i'm using a desktop client
[15:32] <maco> it comes with kubuntu
[15:32] <BluesKaj> for gtalk i just use the browser , haven't used aim & msn for long time
[15:33] <BluesKaj> maco, he needs signture setup .. never used that option
[15:33] <BluesKaj> I never
[15:33] <designbybeck> I just don't know when i click "Block" it doesn't put it on a list or something and not ask me again ever
[15:34] <maco> kmail definitely has signatures
[15:34] <maco> you can set up multiple profiles with different signatures even
[15:36] <technikengel> KMail do not work i test it three Days I dont have a Signatur like my Outlook.
[15:38] <technikengel> Where can i create a Signatur
[15:41] <technikengel> Ok found it wuhoooo now i can use KMAIL
[15:42] <lordievader> Would kubuntu be fine without swap but with 8GB of ram?
[15:43] <Ezim> lordievader, it should be fine.
[15:43] <lordievader> Ezim: Ok good, thx
[15:43] <maco> lordievader: you cannot use hibernate without swap. if you don't care to hibernate, that's fine.
[15:43] <DarthFrog> lordievader: Probably, but it depends upon how you use your machine, of course.
[15:43] <Ezim> maco, yes it is possible.
[15:44] <DarthFrog> lordievader: You can have a swap file, BTW.  You don't need a swap partition.
[15:44] <Ezim> maco, I have used hibernate without swap.
[15:44] <maco> Ezim: did you have a swap file?
[15:44] <Ezim> maco, no.
[15:44] <maco> you can *suspend* without swap
[15:44] <maco> you cannot hibernate without swap
[15:44] <lordievader> As long as sleep mode works I do not vare about hibernation
[15:44] <maco> when you hibernate, the contents of ram is written to disk, in the swap partition or swap file
[15:45] <Ezim> maco, sorry thats true. I mixed suspend and hibernate.
[15:45] <Ezim> :)
[15:46] <lordievader> Oh well just to be save, lets give it 5gb swap
[15:50] <BluesKaj> 8G RAM should preclude a swapfile ..not necessary IMO
[15:51] <lordievader> BluesKaj: That is what I thought, but just to be on the safe side I did give it a bit of swap.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> my / is only 8.5G
[15:54] <BluesKaj> and the data is 4
[16:05] <BluesKaj> lordievader, what i mean by that is the whole install can ramdisked , so why use a swap unless your really heavy into games and huge data resources
[16:06] <lordievader> Oh well it doesn't matter that much :P
[16:11] <Joit> java access problem. its restricted to copy past into java applets, hows about a Option in Klipper to choose the place to past in ?
[16:11] <Joit> ... or i go back to windows !!
[16:12] <ikonia> going back to windows is not a threat to me, enjoy using windows
[16:12] <Joit> lame
[16:13] <Joit> i can only enjoy there copy past from appelts
[16:13] <ikonia> yes, threatening to go back to windows is lame, I agree
[16:13] <Joit> ikonia any idea what channels some devs from kuubuntu ar in?
[16:14] <maco> can we avoid the word "lame"?
[16:14] <ikonia> sure, but that's not how to do it
[16:14] <Joit> not what i meant with lame. i meant, lame answer
[16:14] <maco> we're not talking about a broken leg
[16:14] <Joit> maco what is wrong ith this word
[16:14] <ikonia> Joit: log a bug / feature requestst against the package
[16:14] <ikonia> launchpad.net
[16:14] <maco> Joit: lame means disabled
[16:14] <Joit> ikonia:  its actually restirictied for security reasons
[16:14] <maco> using it is as uncooth as using "retarded"
[16:15] <ikonia> Joit: what's restricted for security reasons ?
[16:15] <Joit> copy past into / from java applets
[16:15] <march84> hello everyone, I don't know if I am in the right place but I found a bug after upgrading to 12.04 which i don't know how to search if it's already open or not
[16:15] <ikonia> Joit: ok, so what do you expect to happen if you know it won't work and you know why it's disabled
[16:15] <Joit> well, maco do you have a handycap? because anyhow its only slang
[16:16] <maco> Joit: i am currently able-bodied. not everyone in the channel is.
[16:16] <Joit> ikonia: it would work again when you can choose by user what will be pasted into a java applet
[16:16] <ikonia> Joit: ok, so log a bug/feature requests making that known
[16:16] <ikonia> Joit: it will most likley need to hit upstream as it's quite a functionality change,
[16:17] <Joit> ikonia:  i am only such a bad bug writer
[16:18] <ikonia> Joit: if you are unable to explian that in a few lines of a bug report, then the chances of you getting any traction is zero
[16:18] <Joit> ikonia: can be, then i silent need to use my workaround and leave the rest from the world in the dark :P
[16:19] <ikonia> Joit: sorry, don't know what that rambling is/means, but if you want that functionality, you'll need to log a feature request
[16:28] <march84> good evening folks
[16:28] <giantpune> hi, im looking to scan a document using kubuntu 12.04.  which software do you guys recommend?
[16:29] <march84> kscanlite
[16:29] <Joit> ello march
[16:29] <march84> hello Joit
[16:29] <march84> I need to report a bug (if not existing yet) which i don't know what name to give
[16:30] <giantpune> march84, im not seeing kscanlite in the repos or already installed
[16:30] <march84> giantpune: what version?
[16:30] <giantpune> 12.04
[16:31] <Joit> maco http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lame   4 definitions for "Lame"
[16:31] <march84> i knew i used in 11.10
[16:31] <march84> I check out if the package has been renamed
[16:32] <march84> sorry my mistake in typing the name
[16:33] <march84> the correct name is skanlite
[16:33] <march84> giantpune: found?
[16:34] <giantpune> yeah, i installed it.  now i gotta find where it got hidden in these menus
[16:37] <giantpune> ok, found it and it looks like it knows how to talk to my scanner.  thank :)
[17:17] <jimmy51_> after a fresh upgrade to 12.04 i have 5 packages saying they are in need of updating but i get a message "unable to mark upgrades" on them when I try.  what is this?
[17:18] <jimmy51_> also, i have "Muon Package Manager", "Muon Software Center", "Muon Update Manager", and Apper.  Which one of these is the correct default package manager for kubuntu 12.04?
[17:20] <lethu> jimmy51_, Muon is supposed to be the default package
[17:20] <jimmy51_> lethu: thanks.  i'll get rid of apper.  it must be left over from an older version.
[17:21] <lethu> jimmy51_, also I heard people having issues with muon
[17:21] <jimmy51_> lethu: hvae you ever seen the "unable to mark upgrades" message?
[17:21] <lethu> jimmy51_, nope
[17:21] <jimmy51_> lethu: the packages it errors on are GNOME configuration database system stuff
[17:22] <lethu> jimmy51_, I had issues with muon, on the previous kubuntu version it was pretty unstable so I just removed it and replaced it with apper
[17:23] <lethu> apper and synaptic
[17:23] <jimmy51_> lethu: ah... maybe that's where i got it.  i had trouble installing updates because of some flash player package.
[17:26] <lethu> jimmy51_, it's possible
[17:26] <jimmy51_> do most people do an upgrade?
[17:26] <jimmy51_> it seems most of the time i have to work through issues when i upgrade
[17:26] <lordievader> I did both, on one box I did an upgrade on the other a reinstall
[17:27] <jimmy51_> lordievader: good experience for both?
[17:27] <lordievader> jimmy51_: Quite alright, the upgraded one was a ubuntu box btw, when it was upgraded I installed kde on it.
[17:28] <lethu> jimmy51_, I on the other hand have had bad experiences when upgrading
[17:29] <lordievader> lethu: How come?
[17:29] <lethu> lordievader, maybe hardware related, who knows?
[17:30] <lordievader> What was wrong?
[17:30] <lethu> strange os and apps behavior
[17:30] <lethu> like broken themes
[17:31] <lethu> or system components
[17:31] <lordievader> Hmm yea, that ain't great.
[17:36] <jimmy51_> yeah.. it's usually some obscure thing i installed
[17:45] <luk_> Hi, has someone a source which describe how a OS is made and how it works??
[17:58] <lethu> luk_, maybe try installing a gentoo distribution from stage one
[17:59] <lethu> luk_, helps at least with knowing the how the Linux os is made
[17:59] <luk_> lethu: i would know how an OS works first to compile it from scratch
[17:59] <lethu> luk_, there is a pretty well detailed manual to help you on the official gentoo site
[18:00] <luk_> i'll give a look. i'll study for first an OS universitary book.
[18:00] <lethu> luk_, basically the idea is reading the manual (following steps) and building progressively until you come up with a fully functional OS
[18:00] <luk_> Thanks for tip
[18:00] <lethu> luk_, yw
[18:16] <BluesKaj> lethu, isn't gentoo install ,just constant compiling of packages until a minimum requirement for a working OS is reached ? :)
[18:17] <lethu> BluesKaj, stage 2 or stage 3 installations of Gentoo perhaps
[18:18] <lethu> but the stage one one is supposed to require you to got through the whole process of building the OS
[18:18] <lethu> including the kernel compilation
[18:19] <lethu> but the most important thing for which I suggested going the Gentoo way is that the manual or handbook explains everything
[18:19] <lethu> or almost everything
[18:19] <lethu> at least that was the case in 2007 when I used it
[18:20] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[18:21] <BluesKaj> I heard back around that time that it was a time consuming process and about as enjoyable as wearing a hair shirt
[18:51] <sfears> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19304992/snapshot2.png  does anyone know what's going on with the issue shown in the screen shot?
[19:12] <EagleScreen> is there a way to rmeove or hie the cashew?
[19:12] <EagleScreen> *remove or hide the cashew
[19:26] <luk_> Yes EagleScreen there's a plasmoid called i hate cashew
[19:26] <EagleScreen> is it packaged?
[19:28] <luk_> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=145596
[19:28] <luk_> here u EagleScreen
[19:28] <EagleScreen> I also hate kmix crashes
[19:29] <EagleScreen> luk_: I did it with Py-cashew plasmoid
[19:30] <luk_> it's the same. I use it on chakra
[19:35] <kubuntu> how to install koffice?
[19:35] <EagleScreen> kubuntu: your Kubuntu version?
[19:35] <kubuntu> lastest 12.04
[19:36] <EagleScreen> then install "caligra" package
[19:36] <EagleScreen> "calligra" (double l)
[19:38] <kubuntu> oh,installing ,thank you
[20:12] <reedydeedy> hi
[20:16] <natman> I changed the theme for my login screen, then changed it back to default, now it no longer remembers my user name - how do i get it to remeber my user name
[20:20] <akSeya> hi folks
[20:20] <akSeya> i have just installed kubuntu 12.04 at work. configured proxy, did a apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:20] <akSeya> installed the software I wanted via apt-get
[20:21] <akSeya> now, in SystemSettings > Locale, it says the lackage package is not fully installed, when I accept and tell it to install, it freezes at 0%
[20:21] <akSeya> my guess is that it is not going through the proxy
[20:22] <akSeya> how can I manually install this packages via apt?
[20:22] <Cerealklr> I don't suppose you have any more information on what the package name is?
[20:22] <akSeya> I don't :(
[20:25] <BluesKaj> akSeya, avoid the proxy until you have the required packages installed , I guess
[20:25] <akSeya> i can't.. everything that goes out to the internet must pass through the authenticated proxy or else the firewall blocks the request
[20:26] <BluesKaj> a proxy should be used in conjunction with a browser , , not apt
[20:26] <akSeya> what could be the translation packages names?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> or dpkg
[20:26] <akSeya> BluesKaj, in konsole I use export http_proxy
[20:26] <akSeya> everything pass through the proxy
[20:26] <BluesKaj> why ?
[20:27] <akSeya> it's a corporation environment
[20:28] <natman> I changed the theme for my login screen, then changed it back to default, now it no longer remembers my user name - how do i get it to remeber my user name
[20:28] <Cerealklr> akSeya: Okay, the first thing we need to figure out is how to get the name of the package you need.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> we had secure servers at work , never needed a yoke  like a proxy
[20:28] <Cerealklr> natman: I'm sorry, you mean so it'll log you in automatically?
[20:28] <akSeya> Cerealklr, any idea how can we do that? i searched in Muon and apt-cache for portuguese, pt-br pt_BR
[20:28] <Cerealklr> BluesKaj: it's clear akSeya does not have control over his configuration, and his issue does not pertain to it.
[20:29] <Cerealklr> akSeya: I'm wondering if it would be logged somewhere.
[20:29] <natman> Cerealklr: no, when i first installed it would only ever ask for my password ( since im the only user ), no i need to type user name and password at the login screen
[20:29] <akSeya> Cerealklr, I got some things as libreoffice translations
[20:30] <Cerealklr> natman: Try System Settings > Login Screen > Convenience
[20:30] <BluesKaj> akSeya, you were able to update /yupgrade pervious to the OS upgrade , right ?
[20:30] <Cerealklr> akSeya: Can you give me the exact package name of the translation you installed? Perhaps I can research it a bit to find the dependencies.
[20:30] <natman> Cerealklr: thx
[20:30] <Cerealklr> natman: No problem.
[20:32] <akSeya> Cerealklr, wait.. i found kde-l10n-ptbr now
[20:32] <akSeya> i missed it before :S
[20:32] <Cerealklr> akSeya: That sounds about right. =]
[20:32] <Cerealklr> Okay, I've got to run for dinner, but feel free to ping me if something else comes up.
[20:32] <Cerealklr> Ciao!
[20:36] <BluesKaj> akSeya, so it was just one package that wasn't installing
[20:37] <akSeya> yeah.. i told apt to install it and it is installing others: firefox-locale-pt language-pack-kde-pt language-pack-kde-pt-base language-pack-pt language-pack-pt-base
[20:37] <akSeya> i guess it should cover everything ^^
[21:53] <togi_> hi there
[21:53] <togi_> I need some help
[21:53] <togi_> I'm looking for someone to help me on a specific problem
[21:54] <togi_> nobody?
[21:54] <togi_> ok
[22:10] <Roey> he
[22:10] <Roey> hey
[22:10] <Roey> anyone know the state of Wacom Intuos5 drivers in the kernel and in X  with Kubuntu 12.04 ??
[22:16] <EagleScreen> hi
[22:17] <EagleScreen> can you set quassel to full screen and check if it freezes?
[22:28] <AngelForget> EagleScreen,  change quassel  and install xchat
[22:29] <EagleScreen> AngelForget: I'd rather to install Konversation
[22:29] <AngelForget> ok good
[22:29] <JMichael|work> my vote would go to konversation
[22:30] <EagleScreen> but anyone can chek that bug? i'd like to know if it is intel graphics specific
[22:30] <JMichael|work> some people also like KVirc
[22:30] <AngelForget> EagleScreen,  some more people like xchat
[22:32] <JMichael|work> AngelForget: if you are using KDE, it might be nicer to try Qt-based clients first... but, if a person already really likes xchat, i guess xchat would be the thing
[22:55] <ubunchu_> hello?


[12:30] <crimsun> no.
[12:30] <crimsun>      totem | 2.17.92-0ubuntu1 | http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
[12:30] <crimsun>      totem | 2.17.92-0ubuntu1 | http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources
[12:32] <asac> interesting
[12:33] <asac> in edgy we have 2.16.2-0ubuntu3
[12:33] <asac> ahh
[12:33] <asac> i see the difference
[12:33] <asac> however ... tilde is still not right imo ... use ubuntu1.mt1
[12:33] <asac> or something alike :)
[12:35] <asac> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7410/
[12:36] <asac> thats the changelog of johns release ... there exist .17.91-0ubuntu3
[12:36] <asac> but where is it?
[12:43] <crimsun> It's only there for the time being. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem
[12:43] <crimsun> e.g., I see it on se.archive [http://ftp.acc.umu.se/ubuntu/pool/main/t/totem/ ]
[12:49] <asac> yeah ... didnt see the difference in upstream version
[12:50] <asac> its weekend :)
[02:40] <gnomefreak> anyone here? got a quick question
[06:25] <crimsun> gnomefreak: pong?
[02:05] <asac> anyone is emacs wizard here?
[02:05] <asac> no .. wizard not needed ... needs to know something
[02:05] <asac> :)
[02:17] <AlexLatchford> grr silly recursion
[03:56] <Mimz> hello
[04:04] <asac> hi
[04:20] <Mimz> hi , did any one face a problem after installing the latest firefox update?
[04:22] <AlexLatchford> which one?
[04:22] <AlexLatchford> for Feisty?
[04:32] <Mimz> it was a security update
[04:39] <asac> Mimz: which version do you run?
[04:43] <Mimz> firefox 2
[04:47] <asac> haha
[04:47] <asac> no i mean the minor version
[04:48] <asac> look about->firefox :)
[04:48] <asac> <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:48] <asac> or really 2.0 ?
[04:48] <asac> its Help -> About Firefox
[04:52] <Mimz> yea its <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:52] <Mimz> i thought the Q was 1.5 or 2
[04:52] <asac> then you have installed mozilla.org version ... not ubuntu package
[04:52] <asac> :)
[04:52] <asac> thats not supported ;) ... at least not by us
[04:54] <asac> Mimz: anyway, what problems do you see?
[04:55] <Mimz> i thought so, but I couldn't find the mozilla room on this serve :p
[04:55] <asac> #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[04:56] <Mimz> the problem is that no page can be loaded, page could not be lloaded
[05:02] <gnomefre1k> Whats this crap you cant run a 64bit chroot on a 32bit proc :(
[05:15] <asac> gnomefreak: what a coincident
[05:15] <asac> try qemu
[05:16] <asac> ah ... remember your mem
[05:17] <asac> actually its bad that you cannot build a i386 build in x86_64 chroot
[05:17] <asac> i couldn't build firefox :/
[05:17] <asac> it somehow detected that this is x86_64 ... which was wrong ... though I hacked uname
[05:19] <gnomefreak> you cant run a32bit chroot in 64bit either?
[05:21] <asac> yeah ... i still think uname was broken
[05:21] <asac> uname -m yields
[05:21] <asac> x86_64
[05:21] <gnomefreak> it may just be me but qemu seems like alot of work to test 64bit or ppc
[05:21] <asac> which makes mozilla build system try to build some 64bit specific code, which fails
[05:21] <gnomefreak> ah
[05:22] <asac> actually half bad on mozilla side
[05:22] <asac> at lesat half ... i think they use the wrong hint to detect system
[05:22] <asac> should look at libc
[05:22] <asac> or something
[05:23] <asac> now letst see replaced uname in /bin/ instead of setting an alias to the fake version
[05:23] <gnomefreak> who else besides you has 64bit env. on the team that we know of?
[05:23] <asac> dunno
[05:23] <asac> no flash for me :)
[05:23] <asac> but gnash ;)
[05:24] <gnomefreak> there are flash packages but they are crap :(
[05:24] <gnomefreak> libswflash or whatever its called
[05:24] <asac> there are?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> yeah
[05:24] <asac> ah
[05:24] <asac> yeah ... but not proprietary
[05:24] <asac> but who cares
[05:24] <gnomefreak> they are crap (maybe as bad as gnash)
[05:24] <asac> when i get to a side where I can do nothing because of flash, i write an email (if i have time) and don't use it
[05:25] <asac> s/side/site/
[05:25] <gnomefreak> wel i assigne dyuo to a few retraces for 64bit. and we have a ppc retrace needed :(
[05:25] <asac> yeah ... will try to setup qemu
[05:25] <asac> for ppc
[05:25] <asac> maybe slow ... buf for retracing it should work
[05:26] <asac> are there feisty isos?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> i have 256mb ram i would think i can run qemu just slow as crap
[05:26] <asac> so i can install ppc qemu from those?
[05:26] <asac> yeah ... its too much for you
[05:26] <gnomefreak> asac: yes i think we still support ppc
[05:26] <gnomefreak> !daily
[05:27] <asac> ah ... its an edgy report?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> damn bots not here
[05:27] <gnomefreak> asac: yep
[05:27] <asac> i think i can find the iso then
[05:27] <gnomefreak> i have link in 2 secs
[05:27] <gnomefreak> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[05:27] <gnomefreak> yep still ppc
[05:28] <asac> has alternate install console installer?
[05:28] <asac> i don't want to bother with graphics now :)
[05:29] <asac> great ... looks like x86 build works now in chroot
[05:29] <gnomefreak> yep looks like they all are
[05:29] <asac> replacing /bin/uname helps
[05:29] <gnomefreak> replacing it with?
[05:29] <asac> with my script :)
[05:29] <asac> #!/bin/sh
[05:29] <asac> res=$(/bin/uname_orig $@)
[05:30] <asac> echo $res | sed -e 's/x86_64/i686/g'
[05:30] <asac> and cp /bin/uname /bin/uname_orig in advance
[05:30] <asac> sed is overkill of course :)
[05:30] <gnomefreak> thats it? and i can change it for 686>64
[05:31] <asac> you can't do that
[05:31] <asac> on 32bit
[05:31] <asac> for me its enough to work around firefox build system bug
[05:31] <gnomefreak> oh there is no way :(
[05:31] <asac> no ... amd procs are compatible with 32bit
[05:32] <asac> so yes ... otherway around ... no way ever
[05:32] <asac> don't know if new duo core intel 64bit are compatible to amd64 ... but i think so
[05:32] <gnomefreak> well im getting laptop but its too old to be 64bit im sure and its even worst off on mem than this pc i think
[05:32] <asac> hmm
[05:32] <asac> amd64 is around for quite some time
[05:33] <asac> we are already at dual cores
[05:33] <asac> now
[05:33] <gnomefreak> its ibm thinkpad from year 2000
[05:33] <asac> ... probably too old :)
[05:33] <gnomefreak> i wont know until i get there anything else about it but it gives me something to throw windows on atleast
[05:33] <asac> do you have banks free?
[05:34] <asac> i mean memory slots on your board
[05:34] <gnomefreak> on this one yes
[05:34] <gnomefreak> but its some fucked up mem that goes in this
[05:34] <asac> what is your current setup? Just one 256mb unit?
[05:34] <asac> what kind of mem?
[05:35] <asac> DDR-266 ?
[05:35] <asac> or even 133 ;)
[05:35] <gnomefreak> i would have to look but iirc it rddr or something like that
[05:35] <gnomefreak> i have 133 and 100 in my p2
[05:35] <asac> yeah ... but there exist p4 with SDRAM-133 too
[05:36] <gnomefreak> no
[05:36] <asac> definitly ;)
[05:36] <asac> my parents got one :)
[05:36] <gnomefreak> you have to replace 2 at a time and its hjigh dollor
[05:36] <gnomefreak> high*
[05:37] <asac> two at a time? even with 133 you could replace just one ... or add just one
[05:37] <asac> sounds bad
[05:37] <gnomefreak> PC600/800 RDRAM
[05:38] <asac> where did you get such a system from?
[05:38] <asac> sounds pretty rare
[05:38] <asac> if rdram is rambus
[05:39] <gnomefreak> its $170.00 for 512mb
[05:39] <asac> maybe switching mainboard would be more efficient
[05:40] <asac> don't know about current component prices, but mb: $50 ... 1gb mem $100  should be doable?
[05:40] <asac> or what are current prices for plain ddr mem
[05:42] <asac> man ... why does ubuntu not provide a net install cd ... only those 700m thingies
[05:43] <gnomefreak> they do
[05:43] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:43] <asac> where?
[05:43] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation.  Problems during install? See  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:43] <gnomefreak> from the bot
[05:43] <asac> yeah ... but download almost done now ... so don't bother :)
[05:44] <gnomefreak> i was thinking of ask seveas about bringing ubotu in here
[05:44] <gnomefreak> almost done? its been 8hrs already :(
[05:45] <asac> so far 18 minutes
[05:45] <asac> 3 min left
[05:45] <gnomefreak> omg thats fast
[05:45] <asac> 600 K
[05:45] <asac> 84% [[05:45] <gnomefreak> damn
[05:46] <asac> yes ... sometimes its fun
[05:46] <asac> but in fact i couldn't life with it
[05:46] <asac> i have so many chroots to keep up to date
[05:46] <asac> s/with/without/ ... of course
[05:49] <asac> but when i hear that some swedish and french fellows get 100mbit/static-IP for 40-50 EUR a month ... i still see potential :)
[05:50] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:50] <gnomefreak> for me to get that its about $50.oo USD
[05:50] <gnomefreak> or more
[05:51] <asac> so its even cheaper for you ...
[05:51] <asac> 50 EUR are about $70
[05:51] <asac> i guess
[05:51] <gnomefreak> i would have to check to be sure
[05:51] <gnomefreak> these retraces arnt gonna work im seeing
[05:52] <asac> oh no ... now i remember the pain
[05:52] <asac> of qemu
[05:52] <asac> i have to setup bridged network to make things easy
[05:52] <gnomefreak> oh yuck
[05:52] <asac> yeah ... have to boot my old computer ... it should have something
[05:52] <gnomefreak> use vmware than :)
[05:52] <asac> pah
[05:53] <asac> that doesn't work without manually tweaking network of host either afaik
[05:53] <gnomefreak> oh
[05:53] <asac> at least i would be scared if it hacked my network config files
[05:53] <gnomefreak> true
[05:54] <asac> ok ... which mother board has a decent intel gpu
[05:54] <gnomefreak> not sure :(
[06:08] <AlexLatchford> Anyone know what the default Ubuntu Sans Font is?
[06:09] <AlexLatchford> I'm creating a document that should be viewable cross platform in a similar view
[06:14] <gnomefreak> no me
[06:14] <gnomefreak> not*
[06:15] <asac> i even don't know if there is a thing like a unique default sans fonts across all applications
[06:18] <AlexLatchford> well I thought there was a method in OOo to set it to the default sans font
[06:19] <AlexLatchford> then when it goes to OOo in widnows it will pick up the default sans font there
[06:23] <gnomefreak> anyone know where i can find debs for mozilla-thunderbird=<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0.6.10
[06:23] <asac> AlexLatchford: what sans do you see in ooo ?
[06:23] <AlexLatchford> I dont, I dont think
[06:24] <AlexLatchford> there should be one though
[06:24] <asac> maybe just type sans :)
[06:24] <asac> then you will probably get the default font ;)
[06:24] <AlexLatchford> meh
[06:24] <asac> you can type arial ... and will get some mapping too
[06:24] <AlexLatchford> if you go to System->Prefs->Fonts its Sans there
[06:25] <asac> yeah ... try type Sans in ooo font field
[06:25] <asac> doesn't that work?
[06:32] <gnomefreak> anyone planning to do bugs this week?
[06:32] <AlexLatchford> not really, working on OpenDocument project
[07:04] <asac> part time ... updating firefox is prio 1
[07:05] <asac> prio 2 is submitting initial patches upstream
[07:05] <gnomefreak> k
[07:09] <asac> damn ... qemu ppc installer doesn't boot :(
[07:09] <asac> will try debians later on
[07:28] <asac> great ... debian sarge installer appears to work :)
[07:29] <asac> great
[07:29] <asac> cu
[07:29] <asac> relax :)
[08:59] <gnomefreak> whats the chances of a laptop having reg(desktop) mem chips in it example pc133 and same proc as a desktop?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> tb <IP_ADDRESS> still not released :(
[09:23] <asac> laptop same ship as desktop
[09:23] <asac> hardly ever
[09:23] <asac> in a week
[09:23] <asac> tbird release
[09:23] <asac> has been pushed back
[09:24] <gnomefreak> ack
[09:24] <gnomefreak> my sites down :(
[11:33] <asac> oh
[11:33] <asac> no crashes left :) ?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ive been grabbing them as they come in
[11:34] <gnomefreak> its cheating i know ;)
[11:34] <asac> yeah there are some :)
[11:35] <asac> not bad 423 reports on search for crash
[11:35] <gnomefreak> oh i know thats alot of trappling through bugs for a sunday
[11:35] <asac> [apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()
[11:35] <asac> why do we have so many reports with that summary
[11:35] <asac> is that generated by apport
[11:35] <asac> ?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:35] <gnomefreak> apport gives it a generic name
[11:36] <gnomefreak> thats only for feisty though
[11:37] <gnomefreak> mt-confirm and mt-summary need to be worked on if anyone knows how to read stacktraces. assuming asac is busy as i know he is
[11:37] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:37] <asac> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs?field.tag=mt-confirm
[11:37] <gnomefreak> asac: btw i approved tony (hes the one that built kompozer for ubuntu but not sure if it will make it into feisty
[11:37] <asac> all crashes there that don't have a valid stack element need one
[11:37] <asac> aka mt-needsummary :)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ill look through them when im done with these 2 if its still early enough
[11:38] <gnomefreak> oh shit i cant
[11:38] <asac> for now taking the first mozilla code functino would be ok
[11:38] <gnomefreak> im waiting to be approved for beta testing
[11:38] <asac> http://librarian.launchpad.net/6525103/Stacktrace
[11:38] <asac> oh
[11:38] <asac> you can replace beta by www
[11:39] <asac> i guess
[11:39] <asac> sorry for posting this link
[11:39] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:39] <asac> in that stacktrace
[11:39] <gnomefreak> thats a good stack
[11:39] <asac> use "firefox crash [@gtk_style_realize]
[11:39] <asac> as title
[11:39] <gnomefreak> it looks like gtk bug
[11:39] <asac> nsProfileLock::FatalSignalHandler is not worth noting
[11:40] <asac> yeah ... actually take the first valid stack element after FatalSignalHandler
[11:40] <asac> no its not
[11:40] <asac> it crashes in gtk
[11:40] <asac> but we are probably the ones that pass corrupted data
[11:40] <gnomefreak> thats what i meant
[11:40] <gnomefreak> we have a bunch of those
[11:40] <asac> sure
[11:40] <gnomefreak> bunch== maybe 100 or so
[11:40] <asac> thats why i need a [@gtk_style_realize]  in summary
[11:40] <asac> then i will take a look what variants exist
[11:41] <asac> and see what stack elements might be significant
[11:41] <gnomefreak> k
[11:41] <asac> all that are the same, are duplicates
[11:41] <asac> we should open a "hot issues" page in wiki
[11:41] <asac> with stacks of most posted crasherse
[11:41] <asac> and maybe give master bug a alias name
[11:41] <gnomefreak> should i just change summary and leave not marked as dupe?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> +1 that idea
[11:41] <asac> if you have exact stacktrace match
[11:42] <asac> than you can mark as duplicate
[11:42] <asac> take the one with the better information as master bug
[11:42] <asac> but lets not give it a name for now. Still unsure if that is acutally what we want
[11:42] <asac> sure
[11:42] <asac> we have a gtk_style_realize master
[11:42] <asac> but please look if trace is really the same
[11:43] <asac> i remember at least two distinct issues that end up in that function
[11:43] <asac> might be different, but related problems
[11:43] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw hjmf comment about that on a bug
[11:44] <gnomefreak> for now i will mark them as [@gtk_style_realize]  take mt-summary and leave mt-confirm
[11:44] <gnomefreak> that way we know it needs to be read for dupe
[11:45] <asac> yes fine
[11:45] <asac> will do so sometime next week ... at least a good bunch
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ok if you happen to have pull for the beta LP team get them to appove me ;)
[11:46] <asac> actually as we get that many reports it should be so hard to reproduce
[11:46] <asac> hehe ... maybe i come around some ;)
[11:46] <asac> don't know the policy though
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:47] <gnomefreak> something is wrong here
[11:47] <asac> where?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> apport
[11:47] <asac> why?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> its not doing anything will try again
[11:48] <asac> what is kompozer?
[11:48] <asac> (on tony)
[11:49] <gnomefreak> its NVU but under new name mozilla related product
[11:49] <asac> ah ok ... who has taken over nvu development?
[11:49] <asac> hasn't mozilla dropped it?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> nvu stopped maintaining NVU and some of the devels took over making kompozer iirc
[11:49] <asac> or was it never maintained by them?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> yes mozilla dropped it for kompozer
[11:50] <asac> yeah ... nice ... will he appear on irc too?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> nvu might have been mozilla i dont remember
[11:50] <gnomefreak> hes all over irc
[11:50] <asac> who?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> he was having issue building it the other day
[11:50] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso
[11:51] <asac> not in this channel :)
[11:51] <gnomefreak> he was. he asked last night about his issue but you werent here he finally figured it out
[11:52] <asac> :)
[11:52] <asac> ok
[11:55] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/bug87859$ apport-retrace -s -v -d 87859 2>&1 | tee retrace.log   isnt working :(
[11:56] <gnomefreak> its just sitting there :(
[12:01] <gnomefreak> maybe i used my apport quota :(
[12:02] <asac> yeah probably for today
[12:02] <asac> maybe network problems downloading report=
[12:02] <asac> ?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> its nto giving any feedback im gonna give it 10 minutes on this try if it doesnt do anything i will finish the other one i have nad reboot
[12:03] <gnomefreak> s/nad/and
[12:04] <asac> hmm
[12:04] <asac> others work?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> they did. i cant run 2 at once but will be trying soon
[12:05] <asac> bad news is, that I couldn't get ubuntu ppc installed on qemu. debian installer at least started but failed on hardware discovery
[12:06] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[12:06] <gnomefreak> how do we build for ppc now?
[12:06] <asac> i don't
[12:06] <asac> have no ppc hardware
[12:06] <asac> and don't want such  :)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> btw tonyyarusso was looking for someone to do a ppc build on kompozer too :(
[12:07] <asac> i think i can build on some devel machines
[12:09] <gnomefreak> with a local crash report apport works fine. when its done ill test on another report
[12:11] <asac> yes there is a machine I could misuse
[12:11] <asac> will have to figure out ;)
[12:11] <asac> guess it has no real net access
[12:11] <asac> so not much use for retraces
[12:13] <asac> hmm ... no apport installed on it
[12:13] <asac> added to TODO list
[12:14] <gnomefreak> ive had get a cheap ppc on my to do list for 4 years
[12:14] <gnomefreak> its still top on it
[12:15] <asac> hehe
[12:15] <asac> what for?
[12:15] <asac> i can do retrace ... or we wait for someone with powerpc joining the team
[12:15] <asac> who of us is active in forums?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> maybe alex ot freddy
[12:16] <gnomefreak> or
[12:18] <gnomefreak> hmmm it seems apport isnt working on feisty crashes at all. brb gonna try reboot


[06:00] <Squirm> vmlintu: I'll try and and make it wait for a few seconds, to let everything come out. the thing is, the process is running.


[01:03] <jdmcancer> Hello
[01:03] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Hello!
[01:04] <jdmcancer> I need some help uninstalling a program
[01:04] <jdmcancer> I am new to Linux
[01:04] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Sure! No problem! What program do you need to uninstall?
[01:05] <jdmcancer> A web browser, rekonq
[01:05] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Ok. Please, open a Terminal, pressing Ctrl+Alt+T.
[01:06] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Then, type in "sudo apt-get remove rekonq", without quotes. Enter your password, and follow the instructions on-screen.
[01:06] <jdmcancer> Whenever I try to uninstall it I get a message that says that it needs to be repaired but when I try that it always fails
[01:06] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Hmm, let me see. One sec.
[01:08] <jdmcancer> OK
[01:08] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Can you please try with "sudo apt-get check -f"?
[01:09] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: That is supposed to check if there are any broken dependencies, and fix them.
[01:09] <jdmcancer> Sure just tell me exactly what steps I need to follow because I'm really new and just learning
[01:09] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Yep. Just write "sudo apt-get check -f" in the Terminal.
[01:10] <jdmcancer> OK done that
[01:11] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: One question, are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu? :)
[01:11] <jdmcancer> Ubuntu
[01:11] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Oh, cool :)
[01:12] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Now, try with "sudo apt-get remove rekonq".
[01:12] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: It should remove the package, if everything was fixed first.
[01:13] <jdmcancer> This is what it told me
[01:14] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: What was it?
[01:14] <jdmcancer> f [sudo] password for john:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done john@Ubuntu-PC:~$ sudo apt-get remove rekonq Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kde-runtime : Depe
[01:15] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Then, try "sudo apt-get -f install".
[01:15] <jdmcancer> Also since I've installed that it won't install any updates for my system
[01:17] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Hmm. Seems weird. Have you tried with the command I just gave you?
[01:18] <jdmcancer> Yes and this is what I've got so far....Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed:   oxygen-icon-theme The following NEW packages will be installed:   oxygen-icon-theme 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 62 not upgraded. 6 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/16.8 MB of archives. After this operation, 32.5 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you
[01:19] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Write y and press return/enter
[01:20] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: After it finishes, run "sudo apt-get remove rekonq", to see if it works now.
[01:21] <jdmcancer> Still not working
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: After running sudo apt-get -f install, and then running sudo apt-get remove rekonq, what happens?
[01:23] <jalcine> if anything, try "sudo apt-get purge rekonq kde-runtime*"
[01:23] <jdmcancer> Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  kde-runtime : Depends: oxygen-icon-theme (>= 4:4.6) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[01:23] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Try with "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[01:24] <jalcine> Yeah, then run "sudo apt-get -f install"; that'd resolve dependencies and install the needed packages
[01:25] <jalcine> jdmcancer: Did you install "kubuntu-desktop"?
[01:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: And how did it go? Were you able to uninstall the package?
[01:28] <jdmcancer> I was just trying to install rekonq and when it finished it opens up but doesn't take me to any web pages and then I got the message when I tried to remove it that the package was broken and needs to be repaired  but that always fails
[01:29] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: That's because rekonq is for Kubuntu :)
[01:29] <jalcine> Just to be clear, "sudo apt-get -f install" always fails?
[01:29] <jalcine> And if so, can you pastebin that output, please?
[01:29] <jalcine> !pastebin
[01:29] <ubot2`> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[01:30] <jalcine> Well, a KDE desktop :P
[01:30] <jdmcancer> So far I've tried everything that you've suggested but it still fails
[01:31] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Please, can you issue "sudo apt-get -f install" one more time, and put the full output in a pastebin?
[01:31] <jalcine> Can you paste that output you see to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[01:31] <jalcine> If anything, you might need to manually remove some packages.
[01:31] <jdmcancer> OK
[01:33] <jdmcancer> You should have it now
[01:33] <jalcine> You have to give us the link  ;)
[01:33] <jalcine> Forgot to mention that.
[01:35] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: ^^
[01:35] <jdmcancer> I just tried it again
[01:36] <jalcine> Copy and paste the URL after you've submitted your paste to this channel.
[01:37] <jdmcancer> Is that somewhere in the terminal or where do I find that? Because what I'm sending you is what's in the terminal
[01:39] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Once you have pasted the content in the pastebin, it will take you to a page where the content is. Please, give us that link so we can check it.
[01:42] <jdmcancer> OK I just tried it again
[01:44] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: What's the link for the pastebin?
[01:45] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/887230/
[01:47] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Thank you. I'm checking it...
[01:47] <jdmcancer> Cool, thanks
[01:48] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Can you please try with "sudo apt-get autoremove"?
[01:48] <jalcine> Okay, so that package there is corrupt.
[01:48] <jalcine> Run "sudo apt-get clean" and then try "sudo apt-get -f install" again
[01:48] <jdmcancer> OK
[01:48] <JoseeAntonioR> Better try with jalcine's suggestion.
[01:52] <jdmcancer> OK it just did something but I'm not sure if it worked so I'm going to let you see what it says
[01:53] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Ok!
[01:53] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:54] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: We need the link with the paste number :)
[01:54] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/887242/
[01:54] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Great, thanks.
[01:54] <jdmcancer> Sorry newbie here, lol
[01:55] <jalcine> jdmcancer: no stress :)
[01:55] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: No problem :) You have just fixed the dependencies. Now, try with "sudo apt-get remove rekonq"
[01:55] <jdmcancer> OK
[01:57] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: And did it work?
[01:58] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/887247/
[01:58] <jdmcancer> That's what it says now but I haven't tried anything
[01:58] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: That is great. You have just removed rekonq :)
[01:59] <jalcine> :)
[01:59] <jalcine> Now for Firefox or Chromium (or Google's Chrome, if that's your fancy).
[01:59] <JoseeAntonioR> As jalcine said.
[02:00] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Can you please try with "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove any packages that your system doesn't need? It will also free some disk space
[02:01] <jdmcancer> Yes  that's what I was using but I was having probems with my browser crashing and I decided to try another one but now I'm wondering if it's because I'm on a wireless network instead of a hardwired one
[02:02] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Have you updated your browser to the latest version? Maybe it's a bug that has already been fixed.
[02:02] <jalcine> No, I doubt that that would be the cause.
[02:02] <jalcine> It could most likely because a dependency issue.
[02:03] <jalcine> What browser are you using?
[02:03] <jdmcancer> Yes and the same with all the software on the computer and also this computer is only a few months old but my buddy is a computer tech and he checked the hardware too and found no problems
[02:04] <jdmcancer> I've tried both firefox and chrome and even opera
[02:05] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Can you please run "sudo apt-get install firefox", to update it?
[02:06] <jdmcancer> Instead of through the update manager or the browser?
[02:06] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: You can use the one that you prefer :)
[02:08] <jdmcancer> OK the computer is doing a bunch of updates right now...these were just building up and not being allowed to install before we fixed my problem just now
[02:08] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: That is great!
[02:12] <jdmcancer> I just got message from the update manager saying that a package operation failed but I don't know if it's something related to rekonq and that's why it failed since  I just removed that?
[02:12] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: What error did you get?
[02:13] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/887258/
[02:15] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Please, run "sudo apt-get clean", and then try again.
[02:16] <jdmcancer> OK
[02:17] <jalcine> jdmcancer: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:17] <jalcine> Or trying to upgrade to?
[02:18] <jdmcancer> Running 11.10 Oneric Ocelot
[02:18] <jalcine> Ah, okay.
[02:20] <jdmcancer> It looks like it accepted the updates this time
[02:20] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Can you please give us the output, so we can check that everything went well?
[02:22] <jdmcancer> The only message the update manager is giving me now is there are no more updates and my computer needs to be restarted
[02:22] <jalcine> Should do so then.
[02:23] <jalcine> Got Chromium installed and cleaned off reKonq. :)
[02:23] <jalcine> If anything, pop back in here if you need more assistance or just want to hang.
[02:24] <jdmcancer> Yes looks like a complete success but I was wondering if you have an opinion on whether connection reliability is better through a ethernet cable or a wireless adapter?
[02:25] <jalcine> Typically through an Ethernet cable, as it's then only restricted by the speed of the Ethernet device.
[02:26] <jdmcancer> OK I may have to try that
[02:26] <jalcine> With wifi, it depends at times on the strength of your signal. Shouldn't be too much of a problem if you and the router's nearby.
[02:26] <jdmcancer> Thanks
[02:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: I hope everything goes well, if you need help just come back, we'll be glad to help you
[02:27] <jdmcancer> Well this is my situation...there are at times as many as four or five computers in the house connected at the same time and my computer is in the basement with the router upstairs
[02:28] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Then it's because that, the connection speed
[02:28] <JoseeAntonioR> jdmcancer: Also, you're far from your router, so that gives you less signal strenght
[02:30] <jdmcancer> OK I was wondering because different people are telling me different things, some say yes as you just did and some say no way
[02:30] <jalcine> Yeah, it's the distance from the router.
[02:31] <jalcine> It's a bit of math, but the farther you're away from it, the maximum speed you can reach on it reduces, I think, in a "half-life" like manner.
[02:31] <jalcine> like (hypothetically) 1 ft = 2 GBps, 4 ft = 1 GBps, 9 ft = 0.5GBps, etc.
[02:31] <jdmcancer> OK thanks a lot for your help and if I need any future assistance or even opinions on anything I'll be sure to come back
[02:31]  * jalcine can't remember precisely.
[02:32] <jalcine> No problem, jdmcancer ;)
[02:32] <jdmcancer> Goodnite
[02:36] <Albin_karlsson> hi all =)
[02:43] <jalcine> Hello Albin_karlsson
[05:40] <benonsoftware> Hi, I'm trying to copy a hidden folder (.irssi) and I try to run cp ~/.irssi ~/irssi_backup I get cp: omitting directory `/home/benny/.irssi'
[05:40] <Unit193> -r
[05:41] <Unit193> -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively
[05:42] <benonsoftware> Unit193: Thank you very much
[05:42] <Unit193> Sure.
[13:43] <williammanda> hello all
[13:43] <williammanda> I'm just starting in setting up gufw
[13:43] <williammanda> and several questions have come up
[13:48] <williammanda> use this one as an example...
[13:49] <williammanda> mythfront 3810 william   62u  IPv4 270337      0t0  TCP 192.168.x.x:46359->192.168.x.x:3306 (ESTABLISHED)
[13:49] <williammanda> is 46359 a random port?
[13:50] <williammanda> or should I setup gufw to allow it to go out?
[14:01] <geirha> when making outgoing connections, a random available port > 1024 is chosen on the local side.
[14:02] <williammanda> k
[14:04] <geirha> In general, when you set up a firewall, you allow outgoing connections, but block incoming connects, except for incoming connections to the ports you want to allow connections to.
[14:05] <williammanda> the reason I ask this....shouldn't I be concerned with out going connections? If someone gets in and sends out information...how would I stop that?
[14:06] <geirha> don't allow them in ^^
[14:06] <williammanda> thats the goal :)
[14:10] <williammanda> since i'm just learning....here is my thought process on getting gufw setup....
[14:11] <williammanda> I'm opening all programs that I might use and then running....
[14:11] <williammanda> sudo lsof -i -n -P
[14:12] <williammanda> to get a list of ports that can be used
[14:12] <williammanda> then go into gufw and make rules for the listed ports
[14:13] <williammanda> but what if I forget and need another program later.....
[14:13] <williammanda> will I still be able to run ...
[14:13] <williammanda> sudo lsof -i -n -P
[14:13] <williammanda>  and see the ports the programs needs?
[15:19] <s-fox> Hello =)
[15:20] <JoseeAntonioR> s-fox: Hello!
[15:20] <s-fox> Hello JoseeAntonioR , how are you?
[15:20] <JoseeAntonioR> s-fox: Everything's fine over here, and you?
[15:21] <s-fox> Not too bad than you  :)
[15:21] <s-fox> *thank
[16:06] <najim> hi, can anyone tell me how to install vmware tools in ubuntu?
[16:07] <holstein> najim: have you referenced https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools ?
[17:25] <pozeidon> hi
[17:27] <JoseeAntonioR> pozeidon: Hello!
[17:47] <Indira> I need help installing Ubuntu 11.10 on my HP computer, I keep getting the black-screen during the first-time boot instillation
[17:47] <Indira> 	ATI RADEON Xpress 200 Series, not the newest, but its what i got
[17:48] <Indira> in terms of video chips
[17:48] <Indira> I have been up till 3 trying to figure this out ppl, don't leave me hangin
[17:50] <Fyodorovna> Indira, you know the nomodeset option to get in right?
[17:50] <Indira> yep, I put it before quiet splash, after, replaced it, still same result
[17:51] <Indira> Fyodorovna: yep, I put it before quiet splash, after, replaced it, still same result
[17:52] <Fyodorovna> Indira,  is that the exact card info from lspci in the teminal?
[17:52] <Fyodorovna> *terminal
[17:54] <Indira> Fyodorovna: I'm not sure, i ran 'dxdiag' to determine it
[17:55] <Indira> Fyodorovna: Is that good enough, or do I need to use the method you are referring to?
[17:56] <Fyodorovna> Indira, So graphic cards are not a area of expertise for me but I suspect this ppa might help, it has radeon drivers.  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[17:58] <Fyodorovna> Indira, are you familiar with getting to the terminal outside of the desktop in general?
[17:59] <Indira> Fyodorovna, no, only from the desktop, but please patiently explain it to me if it is necessary, as I am a quick, desperate learner
[18:02] <Fyodorovna> Indira, If you can't get to the desktop then the terminal is really your only choice, or a live cd......which can be trickier. You night consider starting a thread at the Ubuntu Forums for help, alot more user on daily.
[18:04] <Indira> Fyodorovna, *sigh* ok then, how do I get to the terminal?
[18:04] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Have you got a graphic interface?
[18:06] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, um idk honestly
[18:06] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Try with Ctrl+Alt+T
[18:07] <JoseeAntonioR> If it doesn't work, try with Ctrl+Alt+F1
[18:07] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, @ which moment?
[18:07] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Once you have started your system
[18:10] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, let me rephrase that; what should I see on the screen before I push those keys?
[18:11] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Your desktop, but as it doesn't load just press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[18:12] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, gimmie a sec
[18:12] <JoseeAntonioR> Ok
[18:13] <Bodsda> So I just started the Win8 install in vbox - any had a chance to play with it yet?
[18:19] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, I did it, but now I see a purple screen filled with commands
[18:20] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: That purple screen filled with commands is the Terminal :)
[18:20] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, YEES! :D Ok, now what?
[18:21] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Give me a sec to read what your problem was :)
[18:21] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok
[18:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: So, have you already installed Ubuntu?
[18:25] <Indira> yep, its instillation contents are on the memory, but I have yet to successfully boot it for the first-time EVER
[18:25] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: So, it's the first time you see your desktop, right?
[18:26] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, yep, problem is i never got to actually SEE it per se, just the blackness of the screen
[18:31] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: What do you mean? Can I have a screenshot (if that's possible)?
[18:32] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, of the black screen?
[18:32] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: It's a completely black screen?
[18:32]  * jalcine giggles.
[18:33] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, yep, as if your computer was off, but the display was on. I just push Ctrl+Alt+F1 and the Terminal comes back
[18:34] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: That is a TTY, not exactly a terminal, as the terminal would appear somewhere in the graphical interface
[18:35] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: You can issue commands there, as you were doing in the Terminal
[18:35] <jalcine> Indira: what shape is your cursor in that screen? if visible.
[18:36] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Aiee, now I'm confused, ur basically saying that I never found the terminal
[18:36] <Indira> jalcine, it is not visible
[18:36] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: That's like a full-screen terminal, don't worry
[18:37] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, will they both work the same for what you are trying to get me to do?
[18:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Yep :)
[18:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Have you already logged in that terminal?
[18:39] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, if i had it was not intentional, I just started the boot-installer, waited for the blackness to appear, then pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1
[18:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Yep, but to be able to issue the command you must have installed Ubuntu in your PC before
[18:40] <JoseeAntonioR> You have, right?
[18:40] <asterismo> hi
[18:40] <Bodsda> asterismo: hi
[18:40] <asterismo> is anyone running precise beta 1?
[18:40] <asterismo> hi Bodsda
[18:40] <Bodsda> asterismo: yep, as we speak
[18:40] <asterismo> i had an issue
[18:41] <asterismo> with ATI Catalyst driver
[18:41] <JoseeAntonioR> !ask | asterismo
[18:41] <ubot2`> asterismo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[18:41] <Bodsda> asterismo: best place is #ubuntu+1 but what was the problem?
[18:41] <asterismo> I'm running Ubuntu Precise amd 64 beta 1
[18:41] <asterismo> and yesterday i updates a bunch of stuff
[18:41] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, I think so. I did the installer, on windows, it said to reboot to get it to work, and then I got stuck in this mess, so I'm pretty positive, but just to be safe I also installed on USB
[18:42] <asterismo> and my ATI Catalyst binary driver lost 3D support
[18:42] <Bodsda> asterismo: have you uninstalled and reinstalled the driver?
[18:42] <asterismo> as said by Virtualbox when trying to start some of my Windows XP virtual machines
[18:42] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: You ran the installer via windows?
[18:42] <asterismo> i tried that reinstalling but with the stock kernel 3.2 the PC wont boot up
[18:42] <asterismo> that was very odd
[18:43] <Bodsda> JoseeAntonioR: wubi probably
[18:43] <asterismo> and then i installed the upstream kernel 3.3
[18:43] <asterismo> and ATI driver as well
[18:43] <asterismo> but i lost 3D support
[18:43] <asterismo> Virtualbox says that
[18:43] <Bodsda> asterismo: you installed a non-stock kernel against a beta release. Brave :)
[18:43] <asterismo> that I only can enable 3D accel for my VM once my host have 3D support
[18:44] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, yep, it = only operating system I could work w/. Bodsda's right it was wubi
[18:44] <asterismo> yeah sure
[18:44] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Wubi has been told to cause many problems.
[18:44] <asterismo> now i uninstalled every driver and then went to hadrware drivers
[18:44] <asterismo> and choose FGLRX (post-release updates)
[18:44] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I suggest you remove Wubi, just like you'd do with a normal windows program, and do a fresh install.
[18:45] <asterismo> what is the difference with normal FGLRX driver?
[18:46] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, any particular version I should use?
[18:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I recommend 11.10, as it's the newest version. Once you have removed Wubi, insert the Ubuntu CD, and reboot.
[18:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Once you have rebooted, choose to Install Ubuntu alongside Windows, that won't delete anything you have at the moment.
[18:48] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, I don't have CD, will USB work?
[18:48] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: The LiveUSB also works fine :D
[18:48] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Have you already followed the steps to create a LiveUSB, right?
[18:49] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Yes, I have, should I uninstally wubi off USB & PC as u said & reinstall
[18:49] <Indira> ?
[18:53] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: No, don't reinstall Wubi.
[18:54] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Once you get Wubi removed from your PC, and from your USB, follow these instructions:
[18:54] <jalcine> Wubi's a sub-installation of Ubuntu under Windows.
[18:54] <JoseeAntonioR> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:55] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Where it says 2, select USB stick, Windows, and click Show me how
[18:57] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, I'm booting from USB and it looks like( http://cloud.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Ubuntu-Live-Disk-Menu.jpgthis ) Now what?
[18:58] <JoseeAntonioR> Wait a second
[18:58] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok
[18:58] <JoseeAntonioR> Select Run Ubuntu from this USB
[19:01] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Hey, I Did it and something different is happening, I see purple screen, white words "ubuntu(R)' in center, and 5 white/orange loading circles under it; what should I be looking 4?
[19:01] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: It's Ubuntu loading :D
[19:03] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Great! :D Ok now I see black screen, white words, in terminal-like fashion; I think this is the legit terminal!
[19:05] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, now What?
[19:05] <JoseeAntonioR> What do you mean? Don't you see a desktop like this one? https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4eRlFJrHwmnCmhf8NtCrEvrwRaWBOYcwFAbIvhLrZtQwAbBhm
[19:07] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, uhh..I would have loved to see that but I did not, I am rebooting the computer again in the hopes that maybe I did something wrong and it would fix itself. Ok umbutu loading....
[19:08] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Please, tell me once your desktop is loaded, or if you get a TTY
[19:13] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, The same thing showed up, but as a clue as to why that happened I saw on the last lint "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file sysetm"; meaning?
[19:13] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: The iso file you downloaded was corrupt.
[19:14] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, I'm guessing that means I go on windows, reinstall a better iso for the USB, put file in USB, and try again?
[19:14] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Try downloading again, and do a MD5 check once you re-download it.
[19:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Be sure to follow the Ubuntu webpage instructions on how to create a USB stick
[19:15] <M0hi> wb Bodsda :]
[19:16] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, How do I do a MD5 check?
[19:16] <M0hi> Indira, do you have a Live CD/ USB with you now?
[19:16] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:17] <Indira> M0hi, yep
[19:17] <M0hi> Indira, from where did you download your Ubuntu iso file from?
[19:18] <M0hi> Just making sure that it is from ubuntu site. Also, tell me about your laptop model
[19:21] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Always make sure you download the iso from www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[19:21] <ejanaky> Hi, using version 10, have an acer travelmate 4020 and cannot configurate wi-fi....anyone have any idea? thanx
[19:21] <JoseeAntonioR> ejanaky: Have you checked if there are any additional drivers to be installed?
[19:22] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok, its loading, gimmie a sec as this may take a while
[19:22] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Have you read everything?
[19:22] <M0hi> ejanaky, try running "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" in terminal and tell whether you are getting some errors
[19:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Only download the iso from www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download, create the LiveUSB as the Ubuntu Webpage says, and do the MD5 check as in the webpage
[19:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Those pages are part from the official documentation.
[19:23] <M0hi> JoseeAntonioR, Patience my friend :] Lets give some time to Indira to read
[19:24] <M0hi> ejanaky, waiting for your response :)
[19:25] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, "and do the MD5 check as in the webpage", where dos it say that?
[19:25] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[19:26] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Remember to do the MD5 check before creating the LiveUSB
[19:26] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, on the iso?
[19:26] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Yes
[19:26] <ejanaky> ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[19:26] <ejanaky> eszti@eszti-laptop:~$
[19:27] <M0hi> Grrr! Give me a min
[19:28] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok, the download is a little slow, so I'm trying it on both computers, please bear w/ me
[19:29] <Indira> M0hi, My PC = HP Pavilion a1210n
[19:30] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I will stay here, don't worry :)
[19:30] <M0hi> ejanaky, can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw -class network and rfkill list all ???
[19:31] <M0hi> !pastebin | ejanaky
[19:31] <ubot2`> ejanaky: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[19:37] <M0hi> awww
[19:56] <san_> Hi!
[19:56] <san_> I have installed ubuntu via virtual box on my host windows xp
[19:57] <JoseeAntonioR> san_ Hello!
[19:57] <san_> i wanted to know how can I share my host folders on ubuntu?
[19:59] <san_> and the other thing is the program installed on host window can be used on ubuntu or I have to installed it on ubuntu like text editors?
[20:06] <san_> anyone here please
[20:36] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, FINALLY!, I Checked it, it's sums were the same, I used it to make Live USB. Now do I just put the iso in the usb and then do the boot again?
[20:36] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Do not put the .iso file in the USB, follow the steps in the webpage to create a LiveUDB
[20:37] <JoseeAntonioR> USB *
[20:37] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Done, now I just boot again?
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Yes.
[20:42] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: How did it go?
[20:43] <Albin_karlsson> hi all, I have a problem, I get no sound from my speakers and dont know what to do =)
[20:45] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, it just left the loading screen and now.......blackness aw man!
[20:49] <M0hi> Indira, are you trying to access the Live USB and it is showing blank screen?
[20:50] <Indira> M0hi, sort of, just right after the ubuntu loading the 5 dots
[20:50] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, does the iso have to be on the computer memory, because I went off of another computer
[20:51] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Nope, the iso installs in the USB
[20:51] <Indira> Any ideas then?
[20:51] <Indira> Oh wait..
[20:52] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: What happened?
[20:53] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, The "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file sysetm" thing came up again!
[20:54] <bodhizazen> cprofitt, poke =)
[20:54] <bodhizazen> Want a fun project for the Tigers ?
[20:55] <bodhizazen> cprofitt, www.scoutingvermont.org/pubs/c/58_gmckiterecruitingproject.pdf
[20:56] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: One second please
[20:57] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok
[20:57] <bodhizazen> Indra can't boot ?
[20:57] <bodhizazen> sounds like a bad burn or bad download, did you check the md5sum ?
[20:58] <Indira> bodhizazen, yep, the sums matched/were equal
[20:58] <bodhizazen> How did you make the usb then ?
[20:59] <bodhizazen> and what version of Ubuntu
[21:05] <Indira> bodhizazen, I used the thing on the download site "Universal USB installer; version = 11.10
[21:05] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Try making the LiveUSB again, and if it fails try with http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:07] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, 2 Questions, can i do it on a different computer, than boot on the first computer, & I don't need a new iso do i?
[21:08] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Nope
[21:08] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: And you can boot in a different PC
[21:08] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok here i go again...
[21:08] <JoseeAntonioR> Ok
[21:12] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, beofre I re-extract it, do i need to delete the old data that was on the usb?
[21:12] <JoseeAntonioR> yes
[21:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: ^^
[21:17] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok, NOW im doing that
[21:17] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Great :)
[21:17] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I hope it works this time :)
[21:18] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ditto
[21:30] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, had a different loading screen this time, now after the purple "ubuntu 11.10" loading w/ 4 dots thing disappears, i see black again. Is this bad or should I wait?
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: What did you used this time?
[21:32] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, same as the image i showed you before, i chose "Run Ubuntu from this USB"
[21:32] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I meant, to create the LiveUSB
[21:33] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, "Universal USB installer"
[21:33] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I recommend you try with unetbootin this time.
[21:33] <JoseeAntonioR> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:33] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok
[21:41] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, should i us an iso that downloads straight off of the internet (there is an option to do that in unebootin) or should i use the one i already downloaded?
[21:41] <bodhizazen> Indira, black screen ?
[21:41] <bodhizazen> What video card is it ?
[21:41] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: One you have already downloaded
[21:47] <Indira> bodhizazen, ATI RADEON Xpress 200 Series
[21:58] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Did you boot with the new USB created with unetbootin?
[22:00] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, it is having some trouble making the usb, it goes and than it looks (i don't if i it did actually) stopped trying to extract the 11th file out of 100 and something files
[22:00] <JoseeAntonioR> :S
[22:03] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ill see if i can make this work, just gimmie a sec
[22:03] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Ok :)
[22:29] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, .......any other ideas?
[22:29] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Did you manage to fix what you were working on?
[22:31] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, nope, it's still stuck on the 11th file "casper\filesystem.squashfs"
[22:31] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Give me one second to look up what may be happening
[22:32] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, OH WAIT!! its going
[22:32] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Really? Yay!
[22:33] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, YEESSSS, one, now 2 reboot :D
[22:33] <JoseeAntonioR> Ok, once it reboots with the LiveUSB, ping me.
[22:34] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ok
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Are you reading me?
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: May have a solution
[22:36] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: When it's about to boot, enter the BIOS. Do you know how to do that?
[22:36] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, maybe, but please refresh me
[22:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: When you just turn on the PC, it will show like a loading screen. You should then press a Fx button, that takes you to the BIOS
[22:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Once you're on the BIOS, change the SATA controller type, from IDE to AHCI, and save the changes.
[22:40] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, When i boot usb, it looks like this (http://www.webscopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/UnetBootIn_Default-Option.png) when will I be in BIOS in relation to the photo, before as computer starts, by pressing tab, or after?
[22:41] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Before that menu shows up.
[22:43] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Did you manage to access the BIOS menu?
[22:46] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, is this (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportDocument/bph07146/c01403333.jpg) it?
[22:46] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: YES!
[22:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: There, you should change the SATA controllet type from IDE to AHCI
[22:49] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, I can't find that option, I found the "SATA adapter" thing, but its only options are enable & disable
[22:50] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: There should be a SATA controller option, or maybe it's your HDD name
[22:56] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, In Adaanved section I see,
[22:56] <Indira> ~Plug and play OS
[22:56] <Indira> ~Primary video adapter
[22:56] <Indira> ~PS/2 Mouse
[22:56] <Indira> ~Onboard 1394
[22:56] <Indira> ~SaTA Adapter
[22:56] <Indira> ~USB Legacy mode support
[22:56] <Indira> ~Onboard LAN
[22:56] <Indira> ~Onboard LAn Boot Rom
[22:56] <Indira> ~Local BUS IDE Adapter
[22:56] <Indira> ~Onboard Audio
[22:56] <Indira> ~Supivisor passoword
[22:56] <Indira> ~I/O device configuration
[22:56] <Indira> ~Hardware monitor
[22:57] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: What can you see in SaTa Adapter?
[22:58] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Enable/Disable OnChip SATA
[22:58] <JoseeAntonioR> What's on Onboard LAN?
[22:59] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Sorry, in Onboard 1394
[22:59] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Enable/Disable Onboard 1394 Support
[23:01] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: And what isn't in Advanced?
[23:04] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, In Power I see,
[23:04] <Indira> ~After AC Power Failure
[23:04] <Indira> ~WOL in S4
[23:04] <Indira> In Boot I see,
[23:04] <Indira> ~Boot-time diagnostics screen
[23:04] <Indira> ~Boot device priority
[23:05] <Indira> And what was in main you can see in the picture
[23:06] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: What's in 1st Drive?
[23:06] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, HDD Group
[23:07] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: And inside that?
[23:08] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, ~3rd Master ST3200822AS
[23:09] <Indira> THEN
[23:09] <Indira> Usb
[23:09] <Indira> You can change their rank in which one  you woant to boot first
[23:10] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Give me a second
[23:10] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, Ok
[23:12] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Hmm, that option must be hidden somewhere in the BIOS
[23:12] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: But, for what I read, that's causing the problem.
[23:13] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, is there any other way to fix it?
[23:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: For what I've read, no. You must find the option in the BIOS
[23:17] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, wow, what a pain, is there any attitional information that would be useful, or is this as far as assistance can go?
[23:19] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: I think that's the only way to fix it. There's no other solution in the Internet.
[23:21] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, forgive me if i don't take what you are telling me at face value, because in my mind, if that's true, unless that option is accessible it's impossible to install ubuntu
[23:22] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: That option is hidden somewhere, BIOS menus can me tricky sometimes. I'm sorry for not being able to help you from this point on, I'll ask one of my mates if they know how to fix this.
[23:23] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, thank you, do you mean today?
[23:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: Yep, I'll make the question right now.
[23:23] <M0hi> Are you talking about the boot priority?
[23:24] <JoseeAntonioR> M0hi: -team, please.
[23:30] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: We're trying to solve your problem. If we have anything, we'll ping you. Thank you for being so patient.
[23:31] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, No problem, don't rush yourself and miss something, take the time u need
[23:32] <JoseeAntonioR> :)
[23:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: One of my mates says that you should find HDD mode
[23:47] <JoseeAntonioR> And there, change HDD mode, from IDE to SaTa Native
[23:48] <Indira> JoseeAntonioR, How do I find that mode?
[23:49] <JoseeAntonioR> Indira: You should find it in your BIOS, every BIOS is different


[00:05] <norcimo5> hello
[00:07] <ianorlyn> hi norcimo5 can I help?
[00:07] <norcimo5> Oh sorry, I'm just a fan. Getting my feet wet again with IRC after xx years away.
[00:08] <ianorlyn> there is #lubuntu-offtopic for general chat this channel is for support
[00:08] <norcimo5> gotcha
[14:53] <Dresk> So I did a distro upgrade from 14 to 15, and I'm noticing that I no longer have lubuntu-base in my packages, but I do have ubuntu-base - is that a problem?
[15:57] <holstein> Dresk: from 14.10 to 15.04?
[15:57] <Dresk> holstein: Yes sir / maam
[15:57] <holstein> Dresk: do you still have lubuntu 15.04?
[15:57] <holstein> if things look "normal" in lxde, and you are in a lubuntu session, i would say, all is well.. those are just "meta-pacakges"
[15:58] <Dresk> holstein: Meaning, what, in terms of having?
[15:58] <holstein> Dresk: are you booting into lxde?
[15:58] <Dresk> All does look well, yes
[15:58] <Dresk> holstein: Yes, I am
[15:58] <holstein> Dresk: cool.. i say,  enjoy, then, and dont worry with the meta-package
[15:58] <Dresk> holstein: It was offputting to me when everyday I would get Software Updates for "lubuntu-base", but now it's "ubuntu-base"
[15:59] <holstein> Dresk: you can look in the package manager of your choice, and see what the differences are in those meta packages
[15:59] <Dresk> Well I don't have lubuntu-base anymore, it's not an available package
[15:59] <holstein> could be, in the update, something was changed.. but, if you have lubuntu, you are fine
[16:00] <Dresk> holstein: I always found it difficult to understand that I have "lubuntu"; what should I consider as definitive evidence that I have lubuntu versus Ubuntu to a point where I just use LXDE by default and have some Lubuntu packages for configuring stuff
[16:00] <holstein> Dresk: sure.. lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[16:01] <holstein> Dresk: when you have lxde installed, it will get updated, when updates come in, regardless of the meta package
[16:02] <Eliz> Dresk: lubuntu is just ubuntu with a set of packages and a theme
[16:02] <Eliz> all installed from the meta-package "lubuntu-base"
[16:03] <Dresk> Argh!
[16:03] <Dresk> Eliz: That's the package I lost!
[16:03] <holstein> sure
[16:03] <holstein> and thats *fine*
[16:03] <Eliz> Dresk: it's not a real package
[16:03] <holstein> thats *not* lubuntu, or lxde.. thats just a meta package
[16:03] <Eliz> Dresk: essentially it's a blank package that says "install these packages"
[16:03] <Eliz> you still have all the other packages,
[16:04] <Dresk> Shouldn't I still see it in some form?
[16:04] <Eliz> and those are still updated
[16:04] <holstein> it says "install the lubuntu base that is a set of packages described by the name".. you *sill* have the packages, and they get updated
[16:04] <Eliz> Dresk: worst case, `apt-get install lubuntu-base`
[16:04] <Eliz> that'll just work
[16:04] <Dresk> Eliz: Would you recommend I do that when I have ubuntu-base installed and, as of now, everything seems fine?
[16:04] <holstein> !info lubuntu-desktop
[16:05] <holstein> you will still see that meta-package, if having a meta-package installed feels particularly "soothing" to you
[16:05] <Eliz> it ultimately really doesn't matter
[16:05] <Eliz> you can install it
[16:05] <holstein> you dont need it, since, you have lubuntu/lxde ubuntu installed, and are getting updates
[16:05] <Eliz> won't change much :p
[16:05] <Eliz> the fact it's "missing" literally will change nothing
[16:06] <holstein> its just a meta-package name, and things are changing..
[16:07] <Dresk> I thank yourselves for your time, it puts me to ease
[16:09] <Dresk> One other issue I have, I would greatly appreciate opinions on the matter - many of the applications I have come from Canonical (spelling?), and they take forever to update some of these apps (such as Pidgin) - what is someone to do in this scenario?  Does (L)Ubuntu have a well-supported, maybe semi-official repo for keeping things more up-to-date than Canonical?
[16:09] <Eliz> Dresk: no
[16:09] <Eliz> Dresk: we're not using any extra repos outside of the ubuntu repos
[16:09] <Eliz> find a closer mirror
[16:10] <holstein> Dresk: its not a rolling release.. they actually *never* update them, by design
[16:10] <holstein> you only get security updates, to most components.. web browsers are an exception
[16:10] <Dresk> One thing I noticed, heh
[16:11] <Eliz> oh, that kind of fast
[16:11] <Eliz> lol
[16:11] <holstein> there are PPA's that a creator can use to give you versions..
[16:11] <holstein> !ppa
[16:11] <holstein> or, you can build and install whatever versions you want
[16:11] <Eliz> thought you meant "slow to download" heh
[16:12] <holstein> what do i do in this scenario? i use stock sources when i can.. then, if i "Trust" the creator/maintainer of a PPA, i'll try it, knowing the risk and how to remove the  source
[16:12] <cheche1> Hi, I am searching for mame-ui on lubuntu 14.04 something similar to http://imagenes.es.sftcdn.net/es/scrn/54000/54089/mameui-04-700x525.jpg
[16:13] <holstein> !mame-ui
[16:13] <holstein> !info mame-ui
[16:13] <holstein> cheche1: what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:14] <cheche1> holstein: I hae mame running just fine on lubuntu
[16:14] <cheche1> but it lacks of a user interface
[16:14] <holstein> cheche1: im not sure what that *.jpg is, but, it looks like a simple file manager.. what are you trying to do?
[16:14] <cheche1> is a file manager with screenshot of the games
[16:15] <cheche1> people do not remember the name of the game, but does remember the screeenshot. :-)
[16:15] <holstein> cheche1: of "the games"?
[16:16] <cheche1> holstein: yes, sorry.
[16:17] <holstein> http://gmameui.sourceforge.net/
[16:18] <cheche1> holstein: yes. but it is not in lubuntu.
[16:18] <holstein> cheche1: sure.. i dont see it in the ubuntu repos, correct
[16:18] <holstein> cheche1: i dont think anything promises that.. but, if you like, you can implement the functionality you want
[16:20] <cheche1> holstein: there is as well gnome-video-arcade
[16:21] <holstein> cheche1: cool.. try it
[16:21] <holstein> !info gnome-video-arcade
[16:22] <holstein> looks like few dependencies..
[16:23] <holstein> launches.. looks good..
[16:24] <cheche1> I did, but it does not have screen shot of the games. Maybe I need to research what content is missing.
[16:25] <holstein> cheche1: or, maybe nothing is missing, at all.. but the software doesnt promise a screenshot.. try the other option, and see that it provides the functionality you seek.. you can also try main #ubuntu and see if anyone is using mame, since, its not speicifc to lubuntu/lxde
[16:31] <cheche1> holstein: seems like gmameui is deleted https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmameui/
[16:31] <holstein> cheche1: yes. its not there.. its not in the stock ubuntu repos
[16:31] <holstein> cheche1: you'll want to look at the link i gave for a current fork.. you can ask the creators of the software for an ubuntu package
[16:31] <cheche1> holstein: sure.
[20:01] <Dresk> Well, after upgrading to 15.04 everything seems peachy, but both a native PulseAudio application (Teamspeak 3) and a non-native PulseAudio application (Pidgin) are giving me about a full second of latency in playback now, whereas lots of other apps are just fine
[20:06] <holstein> those should have latency
[20:07] <holstein> maybe not a full second,but, i dont think you can assume the issue yet.. could be networking related, etc
[20:10] <Dresk> holstein: They didn't have latency before
[20:11] <Dresk> holstein: I've been using Teamspeak3 since it was released and latency is not a feature of the app, let alone latency on the sounds it plays (it has latency in both sounds and people speaking)
[20:12] <Dresk> holstein: As for Pidgin, again, prior to upgrading, it had no latency, whereas now it has latency and it cuts off at the end, pretty much trimming the amount of time the latency took
[20:13] <Dresk> holstein: Audacious works just fine, playing my music instantly, XChat plays sound immediately, VLC again, immediately
[21:37] <whytrytofly> hello
[21:38] <whytrytofly> why cant i put the bootflag to several partitions of a drive
[21:39] <whytrytofly> or to ask in another why...why doesnt grub detectmy secondary OS
[21:45] <ianorlin> whytrytofly: which secondary os it should automatically I have it detecting 4 on my computer did you edit grub or something
[21:45] <whytrytofly> ianorlin: im editing grub now...secondary it puppy, seems like there is no autodetect
[21:46] <ianorlin> hmm haven't tried it with puppy although I thought that was mainly booted from live media
[23:57] <Gman> Hello Everyone, how are you doing?


[18:01] <elopio> Hey barry, for this autopkg<->git thing, can I use a branch? On the request URL I see only build-git, so it seems the branch has to be the default of that repo.
[18:07] <elopio> oh, from pitti's comment in the bug I think I can use #
[18:12] <elopio> or space, I see there's a bug.
[18:12] <barry> elopio: right, you'll be able to use url#refspec
[18:12] <barry> elopio: where refspec can be a branchname or pr spec
[18:12] <barry> elopio: and yep, i found and fixed that bug in my patch :)
[18:13] <elopio> yes, nice :)
[18:13] <barry> i was confused by the code and pitti confirmed it was a bug :)
[18:15] <elopio> I need to wait for sergiusens break to finish, but I think we are ready.
[18:15] <elopio> barry: how do I get access to wendigo?
[18:16] <barry> elopio: sorry, i don't know.  pitti has to do some magic on his side to make it all work