[09:15] <robert__> python has its place
[09:15] <lokki> are you building an irc bot ?
[09:15] <raylu> no
[09:15] <Mo0oSaH> Hello everyone.
[09:15] <robert__> all it is a good OO scripting language
[09:15] <raylu> xchat is an irc client
[09:15] <lokki> i know
[09:16] <robert__> prefers ruby over python
[09:16] <robert__> smae idea, better implementation
[09:16] <raylu> have you used rbot, robert__?
[09:16] <robert__> cant say i have
[09:16] <raylu> it's in the repos
[09:16] <robert__> what's it for?
[09:16] <raylu> its an irc bot
[09:16] <robert__> oh
[09:17] <robert__> i don't do bots
[09:17] <raylu> but my knowledge of ruby is next to zero
[09:17] <raylu> so i can't even get the "opme" plugin to not op everyone :P
[09:17] <c0mp13371331337> Here's something I've been trying my hands at for a while, maybe someone here can help....  Just installed a slave drive.  It came from a Windoze box, so it's got an NTFS filesystem, all Windoze directories, etc.  Just looking to reformat and use as extra media storage.  Is there a way to do this right from KDE/command-line?
[09:17] <ShockValue> is there some kind of program that will allow me to view network usage by process or program?  im curious how much bandwidth one particular program is using
[09:17] <robert__> ruby is easier to learn to python from what i personally have experienced
[09:17] <robert__> they're all based on C anyway
[09:18] <ShockValue> c0mp13371331337: figure out what device it is (dmesg) and then cfdisk /dev/<yourdevice>
[09:18] <stdin> c0mp13371331337: what, reformat it?
[09:18] <raylu> and here i was thinking the python quit() woulud quit just the console :(
[09:18] <ShockValue> c0mp13371331337: but becarefull you get the right drive, or you'll hoze your box
[09:18] <robert__> that python console drives me nuts
[09:18] <lokki> there are not good math libreries in ruby.
[09:18] <robert__> lokki...what
[09:18] <robert__> ?
[09:18] <lokki> like numpy
[09:19] <robert__> there are plenty of math libs for ruby
[09:19] <ice9__> weddep
[09:19] <robert__> not as good as python, i'll admit, but it depends on what you do and need
[09:19] <robert__> python has better stuff than perl these days
[09:20] <robert__> but then again, guido van rossum was a math guy AND an programmer, so that's one reason it's good at math out of the gate
[09:21] <robert__> perl is wreck with stuff like OO added on as an afterthought
[09:21] <lokki> guido didn't write numpy
[09:21] <robert__> no, he wrote python
[09:21] <ksivaji> !grub
[09:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:21] <robert__> what i'm saying is that python handles math better out of the box than perl or ruby
[09:22] <zero> what about C?
[09:22] <robert__> python is written in C as is ruby
[09:22] <robert__> plain old C is a anightmare
[09:23] <wolferine> thats why so many use it :)
[09:23] <zero> i am learning C atm
[09:23] <wolferine> zero too bad :(
[09:23] <robert__> learn it yes, but C is a system language
[09:23] <robert__> not used for much else
[09:23] <zero> learning C before C++ is really good though
[09:23] <zero> it helps you learn C much easier
[09:23] <zero> C++*
[09:24] <robert__> zero... C++ is hard to understand without understanding C first... can be done, but comes much harder
[09:24] <robert__> after C, everything is easy but maybe LISP
[09:24] <wolferine> learn Java, then C#
[09:24] <wolferine> :)
[09:24] <zero> i cant install anything from adept installer what am i gonna do? :(
[09:24] <ardchoille> !ot
[09:24] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:25] <robert__> java is becoming less and less relevant as time goes on
[09:25] <zero> yeah i noticed that
[09:25] <zero> but can anyone help me please?
[09:25] <robert__> ubotu... how about some onion rings and a dr. pepper
[09:25] <wolferine> zero install from command line?
[09:25] <Mo0oSaH> zero what's the issue
[09:26] <zero> i cant see all the applications that are available and the ones i see are grey colored so i cant click them
[09:26] <zero> i tried sudo apt-get install something
[09:26] <zero> but it didnt work
[09:26] <wolferine> why not?
[09:26] <zero> idk
[09:26] <wolferine> error msg would be cool
[09:26] <zero> i think it doesnt seach the internet
[09:26] <wolferine> idk wont really cut it
[09:26] <robert__> zero... what the package in question in the repo?
[09:26] <Mo0oSaH> zero did you see if your repos are alright?
[09:26] <robert__> er, was
[09:27] <wolferine> nite ppl, off to bed
[09:27] <zero> ok
[09:27] <robert__> l8r
[09:27] <Mo0oSaH> night wolferine
[09:27] <zero> what do you mean robert?
[09:27] <robert__> off to bed myself in a min
[09:27] <zero> actually what are repos?
[09:27] <robert__> repositories
[09:27] <zero> what about them?
[09:27] <robert__> where the programs you want can be dowloaded from
[09:27] <stdin> !repos
[09:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:28] <zero> how do i check if they are ok?
[09:28] <zero> hey stdin... we talked yesterday
[09:28] <robert__> see above link
[09:28] <stdin> did we? :p
[09:29] <zero> i was |Zero|H|I|T| yesterday
[09:29] <stdin> ahh, yes
[09:29] <stdin> you were the one who ran out of space in /usr
[09:29] <robert__> stdin, he just didn't stdout very well
[09:29] <zero> yeah
[09:29] <zero> i reinstalled kubuntu
[09:29] <robert__> lol
[09:30] <robert__> time to go to bed
[09:30] <robert__> it's 0230
[09:30] <robert__> later all...
[09:30] <zero> good night robert!
[09:30] <stdin> good, the best way to learn is "install -> do something wrong -> reinstall & repeat"
[09:33] <zero> stdin what do you have at adept manager > manage repositories > Third Party Software?
[09:33] <stdin> 1 sec, I'll look
[09:33] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[09:33] <stdin> hi ksivaji
[09:34] <ksivaji> is there any command for quick reboot
[09:34] <stdin> ksivaji: how quick? :p
[09:34] <ksivaji> like kexec
[09:35] <yeniklasor> How can I check how much space left on my hdd (/) ?
[09:35] <zero> df -h
[09:35] <yeniklasor> ok
[09:35] <yeniklasor> thanks
[09:35] <zero> someone told me this one yesterday :D
[09:35] <yeniklasor> oh i m lucky :)
[09:35] <zero> or the day before yesterday :S
[09:36] <yeniklasor> hehe
[09:36] <stdin> for normal reboot i'd so "shutdown -r now", to to an instand reboot I'd do "Alt+StsReq+B" from a console
[09:36] <zero> stdin what about the repositories?
[09:37] <stdin> zero: nothing
[09:38] <zero> you have nothing at third party software?
[09:38] <stdin> nope
[09:38] <zero> at kubuntu software?
[09:38] <zero> i have everything clicked and download from greece, should i change it to download from main server?
[09:39] <stdin> I have all the boxes ticked
[09:39] <zero> where do you dl from?
[09:39] <lokki> what's your vrms output?
[09:39] <zero> mine?
[09:39] <stdin> zero: the UK server
[09:39] <zero> oh...
[09:39] <lokki> yeah
[09:39] <zero> vrms is a cmd?
[09:39] <lokki> yeah
[09:40] <zero> full upgrading adept manager is good?
[09:40] <raylu> cs load scripts/cs.py
[09:40] <zero> it is not installed
[09:40] <raylu> oops
[09:41] <zero> safe upgrade or full upgrade is better?
[09:41] <jl> wow - tribe3 still messes up my default screen rez :(
[09:41] <jl> completely fresh install
[09:41] <zero> i get that with postal 2 too :(
[09:41] <zero> stdin?
[09:42] <stdin> zero: both are fine, full upgrade some packages that aren't normally upgraded with the "safe" upgrade
[09:42] <zero> which one do you use?
[09:42] <stdin> jl: btw, adept is broken right now in tribe3. so I hope you don't rely on it :p
[09:42] <stdin> zero: I just do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:43] <stdin> zero: which is a "Full upgrade" in adept
[09:43] <zero> oh cool
[09:43] <zero> thats what i am doing atm
[09:43] <rancidlm> hello can some one please help me with kubuntu, i am New to kubuntu but a long time user of ubuntu, i am using knetworkmanager but for some reason it doesn't ask to save my wep keys in a keyring.. like gnome-netowrkmanager, am i doing something wrong?
[09:43] <jl> i'm using sudo apt-get
[09:44] <stdin> I normally don't use any GUI package manager
[09:44] <zero> is there a way to disable the login screen?
[09:44] <raylu> you mean automatic login?
[09:44] <zero> and just log in terminal
[09:44] <zero> no
[09:44] <raylu> lol, i was trying to get this too
[09:44] <raylu> i'm pretty sure it involves runlevels
[09:44] <zero> just to press zero and then password
[09:44] <jl> anyone have good scripts to run after fresh install? i've already apt-got update, then did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:44] <stdin> 2 ways...
[09:44] <raylu> "cat /etc/rc2.d/README"
[09:44] <zero> and then startx
[09:44] <zero> oh...
[09:45] <rancidlm> any one help me with this kde keyring problem?
[09:45] <stdin> zero: if it's a one off, just boot into recovery mode
[09:45] <stdin> zero: if not then run "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remoce
[09:45] <stdin> opps, remove, not remoce
[09:45] <raylu> o.0
[09:45] <raylu> we have to use -f?
[09:46] <raylu> it said i might need to force it, but forcing stuff is bad, so i didn't do it :P
[09:46] <stdin> raylu: unless you remove the init script all together
[09:46] <raylu> what would that command actually do?
[09:46] <zero> sometimes when i click to open something like adept or system settings it loads and then disappears what is the issue?
[09:46] <raylu> because i just did what /etc/rc2.d/README said
[09:46] <zero> i think i dont wanna remove anything
[09:46] <stdin> raylu: removes the links in /etc/rc?.d/
[09:46] <raylu> ah, excellent
[09:46] <raylu> zero, they're just symlinks; you're technically not removing anything
[09:47] <zero> and i can make the login screen return if i wna
[09:47] <zero> want*
[09:47] <zero> ?
[09:47] <raylu> yes
[09:47] <raylu> with defaults, i believe
[09:47] <stdin> zero: or just do  "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[09:47] <raylu> "sudo update-rc.d kdm defaults
[09:48] <stdin> again. if it's a one-off
[09:48] <zero> what about the disappearing thing?
[09:48] <jl> so - even with tribe 3 - i must manually edit xorg.conf to get full screen rez?
[09:49] <raylu> zero: sudo update-rc.d -n -f kdm remove
[09:49] <raylu> that won't do anything; try it
[09:49] <zero> and when i exit postal the resolution changes to 800x600 and this sucks what should i do?
[09:49] <zero> i change it from system settings but doesnt change
[09:50] <zero> the only way to change it is to do ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:50] <jl> wow - even after restarting x - after editing my xorg.conf - i still dont have full resolution
[09:51] <raylu> jl, do you ever get full resolution?
[09:51] <Mo0oSaH> ji did you get it in Fiesty?
[09:51] <jl> i'm running a FRESH install of tribe 3 - 7.10 kubuntu release 2 days ago
[09:52] <Mo0oSaH> but did you ever get full resolution to work before?
[09:53] <jl> raylu - yes, on normal sidux and gentoo and debian i get full rez - usually editing xorg.conf works on those
[09:53] <jl> it did not work for tribe3
[09:53] <raylu> jl, you could copy your xorg.conf over...telling us that you merely made changes to your xorg doesn't really mean anything
[09:53] <jl> i added the rez in quotes - in the spot where it goes
[09:54] <jl> i know that part - nothing to see
[09:54] <zero> i click to load something it starts loading and then disappears, is it with kubuntu or what?
[09:54] <stdin> zero: that happens when, for some reason, the app just doesn't start
[09:54] <Mo0oSaH> I have that to me alot
[09:54] <zero> it is at the taskbar loading
[09:54] <Mo0oSaH> usually just ignore it click again...
[09:54] <stdin> zero: kdesu is normally to blame with adept
[09:55] <zero> an example
[09:55] <zero> i just clicked postal 2
[09:55] <zero> its a game
[09:55] <zero> started loading
[09:55] <zero> and then disappeared
[09:55] <stdin> zero: the taskbar item doesn't mean it's loading. it means that kde ran the command and is waiting for it
[09:55] <zero> this happened twice now
[09:55] <Mo0oSaH> might be an issue with the game
[09:55] <zero> but postal was loading
[09:55] <zero> a screen came
[09:55] <stdin> best thing to do is run it from konsole
[09:55] <zero> telling about violence and all that
[09:56] <zero> it worked yesterday..
[09:56] <zero> i will try konsole
[09:56] <jl> anyone else here running tribe3?
[09:56] <stdin> jl: best place for help is in #ubuntu+1
[09:56] <zero> what cmd do i use to open exe?
[09:57] <Mo0oSaH> ji try #ubuntu+1 also for troubleshooting.... usually someone might know the answer there
[09:57] <stdin> zero: wine file.exe
[09:57] <zero> if it is a linux file
[09:57] <zero> that just opens the game when clicked
[09:58] <zero> it is a shell script
[09:58] <stdin> .exe files aren't linux files
[09:58] <zero> i meant executable which are executed when clicking
[09:58] <stdin> zero: is it on your desktop ?
[09:58] <zero> i am at the /home/zero/postal2/
[09:58] <Mo0oSaH> zero you mean .sh file?
[09:59] <zero> yeah i think
[09:59] <stdin> zero: just type "./" then the file name
[09:59] <stdin> zero: like: ./postal
[09:59] <zero> thanks!
[10:00] <zero> instead of the warning screen a black screen opened :S
[10:00] <ksivaji> please one help me i cant restore grub loader after installing windows
[10:00] <zero> oh fuck
[10:00] <zero> lol
[10:00] <stdin> !language
[10:00] <zero> i forgot to install nvidia drivers
[10:00] <zero> sorry...
[10:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:01] <zero> i am sorry
[10:01] <zero> i dont usually talk like that
[10:01] <stdin> I do, just not in IRC  ;)
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> lol
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> haha
[10:01] <zero> lol
[10:01] <zero> i usually hang out at other ircs
[10:01] <jl> geez, sorry i was kicked out of my session - lost the kubuntu tribe3 help channel :(
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> If I got half a penny everytime I said that word, i'd be a billionaire
[10:01] <jl> was it kubuntu-1?
[10:01] <Mo0oSaH> ubuntu+1
[10:02] <zero> rofl
[10:02] <zero> i have to make kubuntu look cooler
[10:02] <Mo0oSaH> Beryl ftw
[10:02] <zero> beryl is cool
[10:02] <ksivaji> please one help me i cant restore grub loader after installing windows
[10:02] <stdin> superkaramba's nice too
[10:02] <ksivaji> stdin :
[10:02] <zero> i just need some good themes and all that
[10:03] <stdin> ksivaji: what did you try
[10:03] <stdin> zero: http://kde-look.org
[10:03] <zero> thanks stdin
[10:03] <ksivaji> i gone through manual which ubotu gave me still cant restore
[10:04] <zero> what do you want to do?
[10:04] <ksivaji> i want to boot my system normally using grub
[10:05] <stdin> zero: so you've mounted your root somewhere and ran "sudo grub-install --root-dir=/the/place/you/mounted/it /dev/hda" or something like that?
[10:05] <zero> no...
[10:06] <stdin> heh, that was meant for ksivaji
[10:06] <zero> thats what i thought
[10:06] <ksivaji> stdin my name
[10:07] <ice9__> HELLO I AM THE SCORPION KING
[10:07] <vzduch> ice9__: good for you
[10:07] <ice9__> thanks
[10:07] <stdin> ice9__: if you want to mess about, #kubuntu-offtopic is for you
[10:07] <ice9__> nothing but business in here or what?!
[10:08] <stdin> ice9__: like ubotu says
[10:08] <stdin> !offtopic
[10:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:08] <ice9__> fuck
[10:08] <stdin> and..
[10:08] <stdin> !language
[10:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:08] <ice9__> jesus
[10:08] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d5185ef88
[10:08] <underdog5004> ice9_, shall we call an op?
[10:09] <stdin> ksivaji: which is your root partition?
[10:09] <ksivaji>  /dev/hdb3
[10:09] <mimik> how do you make Detailed List the default view?
[10:10] <stdin> ksivaji: have you mounted it yat?
[10:10] <c0mp13371331337> For a slave media drive in Kubuntu, what filesystem should be used?
[10:10] <stdin> c0mp13371331337: ext3 is probably best
[10:10] <ksivaji> stdin ya /dev/hdb3 is mounted at /
[10:10] <Mo0oSaH> c0mp13371331337: but it doesn't really matter, i don't think
[10:10] <mimik> c0mp: unless you want to share it with windows
[10:10] <mimik> then vfat
[10:10] <c0mp13371331337> cfdisk doesn't give the option, MoOoSaH.
[10:11] <stdin> ksivaji: huh? you said you don't have grub, so how is it mounted on /
[10:11] <stdin> ?
[10:11] <vzduch> mimik: you can use ext3 for sharing w/ Windows
[10:11] <mimik> really? heh, didnt know that
[10:11] <mimik> how stable is it?
[10:11] <Mo0oSaH> it works...
[10:11] <c0mp13371331337> Windows doesn't matter, I'm just looking for a bit of extra media storage on my linux box
[10:12] <ksivaji> stdin no i didnt say like that it is there but i cant see when i swich on my pc
[10:12] <Mo0oSaH> not sure about stability, my roommate uses it, but i prefer not to share my linux partition with windowd
[10:12] <vzduch> I had a number of filesystem errors after using it, but that could have been the result of the drive being defective anyway
[10:12] <mimik> c0mp: ext3 then i think i used tune2fs to free some more space
[10:12] <ksivaji> stdin have grub loader in optical disk through which i came here
[10:13] <stdin> ksivaji: so you booted from a grub disk?
[10:13] <ksivaji> yes
[10:13] <c0mp13371331337> mimik: how do you specify ext3 in cfdisk?
[10:13] <mimik> eh... im pretty sure i used gparted
[10:13] <vzduch> c0mp13371331337: there is a list
[10:14] <ksivaji> stdin tell  me  how to boot without using grub disk please
[10:14] <c0mp13371331337> vzduch, I see the list, but ext3 isn't on it.
[10:14] <stdin> ksivaji: try the command " sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[10:14] <Mo0oSaH> c0mp13371331337: ext2?
[10:14] <mimik> so... is there an easy way to make Detailed List the default view for your entire system?
[10:14] <ksivaji> stdin /dev/hdb
[10:14] <Mo0oSaH> for Konqueror?
[10:14] <Mo0oSaH> mimik:
[10:15] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah
[10:15] <mimik> mooosah: yes
[10:16] <vzduch> I knew it..  c0mp13371331337: 83
[10:16] <Mo0oSaH> mimik: click Settings > save view profile... after you set it to the way you want it to look
[10:16] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d4cb37215
[10:16] <stdin> mimik: switch to detailed view and go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management..."
[10:16] <ksivaji> stdin
[10:16] <stdin> ksivaji: it should be installed now
[10:17] <mimik> thanks
[10:17] <ksivaji> stdin can i boot normally
[10:17] <Mo0oSaH> =)
[10:17] <zero> oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:17] <stdin> ksivaji: you should be able to, yes
[10:18] <zero> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:18] <ksivaji> thank you stdin i will reboot and come
[10:18] <zero> :(
[10:18] <zero> why did this happen?
[10:18] <raylu> ....
[10:18] <zero> it said something about bad device
[10:18] <raylu> ew...rebooting...
[10:18] <stdin> zero: you won't know unless you use apt-get
[10:18] <Mo0oSaH> zero what were you trying to install?
[10:18] <zero> i did full upgrade
[10:19] <stdin> !baddevice
[10:19] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[10:19] <zero> it was 167
[10:19] <zero> safely ignored?
[10:19] <stdin> zero: doesn't matter, see the word "similar" in there
[10:20] <zero> ok :)
[10:20] <zero> so ok now
[10:20] <zero> i see all apps at adept installer
[10:20] <zero> but i wont be able to install them i think because of the error i got before
[10:21] <stdin> yeah, use apt-get
[10:21] <zero> and it will work?
[10:21] <zero> i want to install kdevelop
[10:21] <stdin> maybe, maybe not.
[10:21] <stdin> but you'll see the error
[10:21] <stdin> and I think kdevelop is broke in edgy
[10:22] <zero> broke?
[10:22] <zero> i use feisty
[10:22] <stdin> then you don't need to worry about edgy
[10:24] <zero> apt-get is downloading kdevelop atm
[10:26] <ksivaji> no stdin i cant
[10:27] <stdin> ksivaji: hmm, what happens at boot?
[10:27] <zero> it works!!!!!!!!!!
[10:27] <Sergo> hello
[10:27] <ksivaji> wait i wll type and paste
[10:28] <ksivaji> stdin 2 min i am eating
[10:30] <sfire> I can't get my ATI video card to work in the correct resolution.  http://pastebin.ca/raw/629420 that is my xorg.conf file.  Can anyone tell me how to get my monitor in 1680x1050 mode
[10:30] <zero> programming in kdevelop is not really good
[10:30] <stdin> zero: why?
[10:31] <zero> it is too complex
[10:31] <zero> with a text editor it is easier i think
[10:31] <zero> you program with kdevelop?
[10:31] <zero> i get errors with corrent code
[10:31] <stdin> for complex programs I use KDevelop
[10:32] <zero> for not-complex?
[10:32] <stdin> for smaller ones (ones with only or two one source file) i use nano or kate
[10:32] <zero> nano?
[10:32] <sfire> the other thing is that I've got 4 gigs of ram and I only see 3
[10:32] <sfire> do I have to install a 64 bit version to see all 4
[10:32] <sfire> (BIOS sees it fine)
[10:33] <zero> and you compile with gcc stdin?
[10:33] <stdin> zero: nano is a terminal based editor, type nano in to konsole to see
[10:33] <Mo0oSaH> sfire: do you have 64 bit processor?
[10:33] <sfire> yes
[10:33] <sfire> (groan)
[10:33] <stdin> zero: yeah, well I use g++ directly
[10:33] <stdin> zero: I write in C++
[10:34] <Mo0oSaH> I don't know if it'll fix all your issues but it will run your system much better.... just a thought
[10:34] <stdin> zero: haven't actually learnt C yet
[10:34] <sfire> Mo0oSaH: I'll give it a shot
[10:34] <zero> how do the cmd work at nano?
[10:34] <sfire> I'm out of other options
[10:34] <Mo0oSaH> your xorg.conf has the 1680x1050 resolution in it
[10:34] <sfire> its a Core 2 Duo E6700
[10:34] <Mo0oSaH> it might be the driver issue
[10:35] <Mo0oSaH> sfire: did you change default graphics driver?
[10:35] <stdin> zero: the commands ate written at the bottom of nano, eg: ^O = Ctrl+O
[10:35] <zero> oh...
[10:35] <zero> i dont know which drivers to get
[10:35] <sfire> Mo0oSaH: I believe so (I followed the ATI Binary Driver guide)
[10:35] <sfire> it worked in 6.06 LTS
[10:35] <zero> gforce FX 5200...
[10:35] <codeatnight> does nano highlight syntax?
[10:36] <stdin> sfire: ATI sometimes remove support for some hardware
[10:36] <zero> and how do i save the file?
[10:36] <zero> anyway i have to go now
[10:36] <zero> thanks for everything
[10:36] <zero> and bye
[10:36] <stdin> zero: no, but that's why I use it for simple apps.
[10:36] <stdin> zero: ctrl+o to save
[10:36] <sfire> I'm going to try the 64bit version
[10:36] <sfire> will I still be able to play movies?
[10:36] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d36b42a1e
[10:37] <sfire> I know that wasn't working when 64bit first came out (along with a ton of other stuff)
[10:37] <Mo0oSaH> I don't have 64 bit so can't help you there...
[10:38] <stdin> ksivaji: your "root" is set wrong in grubs menu.lst. hd0,6 = hdb7
[10:38] <ksivaji> stdin i cant understand
[10:38] <ksivaji> now what i am suppose to  do correct it
[10:38] <pag> stdin, isn't hdb hd1  ?
[10:39] <stdin> ksivaji: look near the top, under " booting 'redhat linux 2.4.20' "
[10:39] <stdin> pag: depends on the devices.map
[10:39] <Mo0oSaH> it's hibernation time... night all
[10:39] <Mo0oSaH> goodluck sfire
[10:39] <ksivaji> stdin root hd0,6
[10:39] <stdin> ksivaji: it's trying to load the kernel from hdb6, the FAT32 partition
[10:40] <stdin> grub starts numbering from 0, so the 1st partition is 0
[10:40] <ksivaji> ksivaji stdin hd6 is linux part
[10:40] <ksivaji>  /dev/hdb6            3090        4864    14257656   83  Linux
[10:40] <stdin> ksivaji: yes, but hd0,6 isn't hda6
[10:41] <ksivaji> ok ok
[10:41] <ksivaji> how to change this
[10:41] <ksivaji> so i cant boot normally is it ?
[10:42] <ksivaji> stdin :
[10:42] <stdin> you'll need to edit the menu.lst file
[10:42] <ksivaji> stdin ok i will paste that file
[10:42] <ksivaji> you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:43] <stdin> yeah
[10:43] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d7876dfc
[10:45] <stdin> ksivaji: i don't think it's using that one, do you have another linux installed too?
[10:45] <ksivaji> stdin no
[10:45] <stdin> where did 'redhat linux 2.4.20' come from then
[10:46] <ksivaji> i had long back
[10:46] <ksivaji> before one year
[10:46] <stdin> what's on hdb6 and hdb8?
[10:47] <ksivaji> hdb6 is just a linux partition and hdb8 is having grub
[10:48] <ksivaji> hdb3 is root partition
[10:48] <ksivaji> !grub
[10:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:49] <ksivaji> stdin no other way ?
[10:50] <stdin> ksivaji: you may need to set hdb3 to be "bootable"
[10:50] <ksivaji> how
[10:51] <stdin> ksivaji: with "sudo fdisk /dev/hda" press "a" then choose the 3rd partition
[10:51] <ksivaji>  /dev/hdb
[10:51] <stdin> heh, yeah
[10:51] <stdin> as grub seems to want to boot only from hdb8
[10:53] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d7baa9521
[10:54] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah, press "a" then choose the 3rd partition
[10:54] <ksivaji> Partition number (1-9):
[10:55] <stdin> 3
[10:55] <ksivaji> Command (m for help): a
[10:55] <ksivaji> Partition number (1-9): 3
[10:55] <ksivaji> Command (m for help):
[10:55] <stdin> ksivaji: then press w
[10:56] <stdin> that should be it
[10:56] <ksivaji> Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[10:56] <stdin> is it mounted?
[10:56] <ksivaji> yes
[10:56] <stdin> you need to unmount it first
[10:57] <ksivaji>  /hdb3 is root partition
[10:57] <stdin> it's best to do that from a live CD
[10:58] <ksivaji> i  rebooted my system more than 20 times will it affect my system
[10:58] <dhq>  well i have a router with eth0 wlan ppp0 . ppp0 is the main internet.....what i need now is to route ppp0 to wlan0
[10:58] <dhq>  and wlan should be the gateway for eth0 can anyone help me out
[10:58] <stdin> ksivaji: no
[10:59] <Kjellviz> Ive got a Dell XPS M1710 (laptop) running Kubuntu, Im trying to get rid of system beeps (like the errorbeep you get when you hit backspace in terminal and theres nothing to delete), even though ive got a headset connected, its beeping in the internal speakers (like a pc-speaker). How ca i get rid of this annoyance ?
[10:59] <ksivaji> stdin ho ho i dont have live c
[10:59] <ksivaji> cd
[11:00] <stdin> ksivaji: you really need one, or need to be booted in to another disk to do it
[11:01] <ksivaji> ok tell what to do i will get a cd from my friend and try later
[11:01] <stdin> ksivaji: just boot from the CD and do the same steps
[11:02] <stdin> ksivaji: "sudo fdisk /dev/hdb" then "a" then "3" then "w"
[11:02] <ksivaji> ok
[11:02] <ksivaji> stdin thanks a lot
[11:03] <ksivaji> stdin thanks a lot
[11:03] <ksivaji> stdin thanks a lot
[11:03] <stdin> no problem
[11:05] <ksivaji> i didnt mount /dev/hdb8 which contain grub then how i am able to open /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:07] <Kjellviz> noone?
[11:09] <pag> Kjellviz, in konsole, right?
[11:09] <Kjellviz> think so
[11:10] <Kjellviz> its named terminal in menus
[11:10] <pag> Kjellviz, right click somewhere in konsole: settings -> bell -> none
[11:10] <Kjellviz> no its actually Gnome Terminal
[11:10] <Kjellviz> ahhh its gone!
[11:11] <Kjellviz> thanks a million!!!!
[11:11] <Kjellviz> it was waking up my daughter ><
[11:11] <pag> np :)
[11:11] <Kjellviz> does any terminal support ctrl+v for pasting ?
[11:12] <pag> Kjellviz, ctrl+shift+v might work... ors just get used to ctrl+insert  or middleclick
[11:13] <Kjellviz> dunno if middleclick works on my MX Revolution though
[11:13] <Kjellviz> and insert is VERY off on my funky wireless keyboard ^^
[11:13] <Kjellviz> otherwise id be fine with that combo
[11:13] <pag> iirc ctrl+v is reserved for system commands, so there's no (easy?) way to make it work
[11:13] <Kjellviz> kk
[11:14] <Kjellviz> ctr-shift-v works in gnome terminal, but not in console
[11:14] <Kjellviz> konsole*
[11:22] <ksivaji> tell me any web page designing tool
[11:23] <jussi01> quanta plus
[11:23] <jussi01> !info quanta
[11:23] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[11:24] <dxdt> Kaffeine just shows me a black screen when I try to play a video file.  I can't think of what codec I could be missing.  I've tried installing like every one there is.  Ideas?
[11:25] <jussi01> dxdt: what type of video?
[11:26] <dxdt> xvid
[11:26] <jussi01> have you looked at the restricted formats page?
[11:26] <jussi01> !xvid
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <dxdt> yeah as far as I know I've installed everything.  I'll double check.  I've already done several long aptitude install this and that lines.  I have dvd support even working hrmm
[11:27] <dxdt> maybe I just missed something
[11:28] <jussi01> dxdt: maybe
[11:28] <dxdt> nope
[11:28] <dxdt> no go
[11:29] <jussi01> dxdt: are you running compiz/beryl?
[11:29] <dxdt> no
[11:30] <jussi01> hmmm, weird, do any other media players work?
[11:30] <jussi01> dxdt: ie. mplayer/vlc
[11:31] <dxdt> yes vlc does
[11:32] <jussi01> dxdt: sounds like kaffeines problem then. try: sudo apt-get install kaffeine --reinstall
[11:33] <ksivaji> yes vlc is best i dont like kaffeine
[11:36] <dxdt> reinstall didnt help
[11:36] <Lynoure> reinstall does not wipe your configurations, have you tried moving them and trying afresh?
[11:37] <vzduch> dayum..  I'm trying to config TeXLive, currently running texconfig.. at one point it opens a config file in a Vi-like editor.. can someone tell me how to exit that?
[11:37] <Lynoure> dxdt: and what type of video file you get that with?
[11:37] <dxdt> xvi avi file
[11:38] <nodesert_> when i log in kubuntu,i heard a sound which shows i successfully loged in how can i change this sound?
[11:38] <rjb> dang, why is java off by default in konqueror??
[11:38] <rjb> it took me about half an hour of headscratching before i found the 'java' toggle under Tools..
[11:40] <pag> nodesert_, kcontrol -> Sound & Multimedia -> System Notifications -> KDE System Notifications -> KDE is starting up
[11:40] <mimik> have you tried updating the xine engine?
[11:42] <weijie902> nodesert_: go to the kde menu
[11:42] <weijie902> nodesert_: go to "system settings"
[11:42] <weijie902> sound system
[11:42] <weijie902> sorry
[11:42] <weijie902> system settings->notificaitons
[11:42] <nodesert_> thanks
[11:42] <nodesert_> i got it
[11:42] <weijie902> turn off all sounds
[11:42] <weijie902> welcome!
[11:43] <weijie902> oops
[11:43] <weijie902> didn't see what pag said
[11:43] <nodesert_> i changed KDE is starting up notification
[11:43] <nodesert_> i love linux and linux users :D
[11:44] <dxdt> any other ideas?
[11:45] <ksivaji> !fat
[11:45] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:48] <N_S_K_Y> good morning tot you all !!
[11:56] <iptash> kubuntu
[12:02] <ttan> hi! someone can help me with a wireless pci card?
[12:08] <djdarkman_> is the kde4 alpha desktop installable for feisty?
[12:08] <pag> djdarkman_, alpha1 is
[12:09] <djdarkman_> can it live next to kde3?
[12:09] <pag> djdarkman_, at least it's the only one that has it's own release announcement, I don't know if packages have been updated since then
[12:10] <pag> djdarkman_, it might cause minor problems, but it should be easily repairable iirc.
[12:10] <djdarkman_> hmmm than I`ll wait
[12:11] <djdarkman_> I`m working on this computer, I can`t take the risk of loosing time
[12:18] <ttan> the asus wl-138g v2 works fine on kub 7.04?
[12:21] <ice9> man Danzig is the freakin' man
[12:23] <joshjosh> ice9: At least with the Misfits he was
[12:25] <ice9> what?! You didn't like him solo?!
[12:27] <omega_> hy to all
[12:27] <pag> !hi | omega_
[12:27] <ubotu> omega_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:27] <ksivaji> please someone help me my grub loader trying to boot fat file system and return error
[12:27] <omega_> how can i get and install verlihub
[12:27] <ksivaji> pag :
[12:28] <pag> ksivaji, pastebin your menu.lst  output of the sudo fdisk -l  would be nice too
[12:29] <ksivaji> ok
[12:30] <ice9> weddep all
[12:34] <ksivaji> pag http://pastebin.com/d1a9f462d
[12:35] <ksivaji> why there is a * in line 185 and 189
[12:35] <pag> ksivaji, those partitions are marked as bootable
[12:36] <ksivaji> pag i have grub loader in /dev/hdb8
[12:36] <pag> root hd0,6   ksivaji, make that hd0,5 if hdb6 is the one with RH
[12:37] <kraut> moin
[12:37] <ksivaji> pag i cant understand rephrase it please
[12:38] <pag> ksivaji, yeah sorry, I said pretty unclear: in RH boot-option it's told to boot from hd0,6 which is the FAT hdb6 is hd0,5 in Grub's 'language'
[12:41] <ksivaji> so what i am suppose to change now
[12:41] <wimpies> Who can I make conqueror start one command with as argument all files I have selected instead of multiple commands one for each file I selected
[12:43] <pag> ksivaji, Somehow I can't even find RH as a boot option in the grub, so I can't change it for you... you should replace hd0,6 to hd0,5 somewhere there
[12:44] <ksivaji> pag hd0,6 to hd0,5 or hd0,6 to hd2
[12:45] <pag> hd0,6 to hd0,5
[12:45] <ksivaji> ok
[12:51] <ice9> :<
[12:52] <ksivaji> pag i dont fine hd0,6 or hd0,5
[12:53] <pag> ksivaji, hmm? where are you trying to boot to, when you experience the error you pasted?
[12:55] <ksivaji> pag i can boot linux or window normally i am using grub disk to boot
[12:56] <pag> ksivaji, now you got me all confused :S  could you please rephrase what is the problem, and under which circumstances it appears?
[12:58] <ksivaji> when i boot my system grub loader stored on hd tries to mount fat file system and return error
[12:58] <ksivaji> when i boot my system using  grub loader stored on optical disk it works
[12:58] <simon_> hello
[12:59] <ksivaji> pag today i reinstalled windows
[12:59] <ksivaji> after that i get this error
[12:59] <simon_> does anybody know, why alsa does not find my usb soundcard after remove and currently add the usb stick to the slot?
[01:00] <simon_> lsusb lists the usb sound card and the sound card works fine, but only if i connect it while or before booting linux
[01:01] <pag> ksivaji, :S I can't figure out what might cause the problem... if I were you I'd probably try to reinstall grub from the grub disk
[01:01] <ksivaji> ok
[01:02] <southafrikanse> hello. I've just installed Kubuntu but I have no sound
[01:03] <pag> southafrikanse, have you unmuted the mixer?
[01:03] <southafrikanse> pag: Yes
[01:04] <pag> hmm.. maybe then:
[01:04] <pag> !sound | southafrikanse
[01:04] <ubotu> southafrikanse: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:06] <Karti> Hi all, once I have amended the /etc/fstab can someone tell me the command to activate it again (refresh the list etc) cheers
[01:07] <pag> Karti, unmount the partition you've edited and do: sudo mount -a
[01:07] <Karti> pag: many thanks
[01:09] <NLJazz> does any of you guys ever get response in #compiz-fusion?
[01:10] <simon_> does anybody know, why alsa does not find my usb soundcard after remove and currently add the usb stick to the slot?
[01:11] <DjDarkman> hello, why does adep_notifier`s systray goes buggy when I start Compiz?
[01:12] <NLJazz> DjDarkman: i have the same "problem"
[01:12] <NLJazz> and i dont know:P
[01:12] <DjDarkman> It must be an adept_notifier problem, cause all other systay`s are working nicely in compiz...
[01:12] <NLJazz> DjDarkman: true
[01:19] <Karti> pag: If I have a smbfs drive, do I need to install a particular application? I can access them through remote places
[01:20] <pag> Karti, sorry, I know nothing about Samba.
[01:20] <Karti> no probs I will open it all ;)
[01:20] <Karti> Hi all, If I have a smbfs drive, do I need to install a particular application? I can access them through remote places cheers
[01:23] <southafrikanse> "echo options snd-hda-intel model-lg | sudo teoa /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base". Doesn't recognize "teoa" what command could it be?
[01:26] <simplex> hey
[01:26] <patrick__> i cant check the following rep with kdvsnv http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen/
[01:27] <patrick__> but with subversion works, thats strange :X
[01:27] <patrick__> does anybody knows why?
[01:27] <patrick__> kdesnv tell me, the rep has moved
[01:31] <eltese> Hiya
[01:32] <eltese> Im trying to install nvidia drivers and beryl on my kubuntu desktop but with no success.. The sources.list wont let me write over it and Im really a noob at linux :) Someone who can help=
[01:32] <eltese> ?
[01:33] <southafrikanse> I don't have sound. When I press my volume tuner it doesn't go more than 10%
[01:33] <Karti> eltese: I will send a website that is quite useful helped me no end
[01:33] <eltese> thanks :)
[01:34] <Karti> eltese: just cut and paste the promts http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[01:35] <eltese> ok :) Thanks :D
[01:35] <Karti> prompts even!
[01:40] <gulitx> heloo people... how can i play with totem an mp3 and when finish to close totem automatically?
[01:40] <gulitx> i want do is in console..
[01:40] <gulitx> thanks
[01:42] <gulitx> heloo people... how can i play with totem an mp3 and when finish to close totem automatically?
[01:42] <gulitx> i want do is in console..
[01:42] <gulitx> thanks
[01:42] <gulitx> anyone has any idea?
[01:43] <grul> !ati
[01:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:47] <vistakiller> for ati http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[01:47] <Remo_A> There seems to be a bug in ktorrent 2.2: The button "still upload after file completely downloaded" stays effectless, packages are still being uploaded after they were downloaded when button unactivated.
[01:51] <southafrikanse> I'k trying to install a Wallpaper for my desktop but I don't know to which folder it goes :|
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> southafrikanse: it doesn't matter what older.
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> *folder
[01:52] <southafrikanse> nosrednaekim: But I can't find it to select it
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> right click on the desktop-> configure desktop-> check "picture" and select the location of your picture
[01:54] <Dorgendubal> you can just right clic on your image and the choose "Actions -> Set as Background -> ..."
[01:54] <Remo_A> where can I ask 1questions about ktorrent?
[02:01] <rbrunhuber> Is it possible to use hotswap on a dell media bay device? Are there any known howtos?
[02:06] <ksivaji> !grub
[02:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:08] <dr_willis> rbrunhuber,  is it a USB bay?/device?
[02:09] <rbrunhuber> dr_willis: afaik it's not but I think if found something: hotswap
[02:10] <nicola_> hello everybody
[02:10] <dr_willis> Id still suggest you rember to UNMOUNT the thing befor removing it. :)
[02:10] <nicola_> does anyone know where can I obtain a free svn repository for non-public code?
[02:15] <rbrunhuber> dr_willis: umount is always a good thing (except you want to use the volume :-)).
[02:16] <dr_willis> rbrunhuber,  yep. gotta train the wife to use it also. :) she wondered why her pictures were not on her media card the other day
[02:16] <dr_willis> she'd copy, then pull it out.. and they werent there! :)
[02:17] <dr_willis> scared her when i hollered 'dont just pull it out' :)
[02:17] <dr_willis> 'did i break it?!' :)
[02:17] <dr_willis> I think i need to track down a new wireless-N router,  any suggestions? :)
[02:20] <weijie902> dr_willis: i lost an mp3 player due to pulling it out once. luckily the warrenty was in place
[02:20] <weijie902> dr_willis: linksys, d-llink
[02:20] <weijie902> d-link
[02:20] <weijie902> go for popular brands
[02:20] <weijie902> and read online reviews
[02:20] <weijie902> but that's all i can advise
[02:20] <dr_willis> Yea. Looking at some now. Prices are getting reasonable.
[02:21] <dr_willis> I tend to go linksys. since everything else i got is linksys.
[02:21] <weijie902> is wireless-n compatible with older devices on abg?
[02:21] <dr_willis> How about wireless n pci cards for a linux box?
[02:21] <weijie902> just wondering
[02:21] <dr_willis> I got a older abg router for the older devices. :) i just want wireless to reach the garrage.
[02:22] <weijie902> dr_willis: try a wok
[02:22] <dr_willis> also needing to track down a decent wireless printer for my mom.  shes very space limited.. laptop in the front room. wants the printer in the back.
[02:22] <rbrunhuber> weijie902: normally the devices are a,b,g,draft-n or b,g,draft-n. A pure draft-n is not backwards compatible
[02:22] <weijie902> dr_willis: http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/22/wifi-wok-and-the-chinese-cookware-2-4ghz-repeaters/
[02:22] <dr_willis> I though the N 2.0 stuff finially came out? i saw some reviews
[02:23] <dr_willis> weijie902,   yea. Its not a 'distance' thing. its a 'line of site' issue mainly. and Al. Siding on the house.
[02:23] <rbrunhuber> dr_willis: could be wrong, I always heared about drafts until now, but I'm not sure
[02:23] <dr_willis> rbrunhuber,  let me chgeck the magazine i had. :)
[02:23] <weijie902> walls can knock out 10% of signal strength each
[02:24] <weijie902> brb
[02:24] <dr_willis> ahh they call it 'draft-n' also.
[02:24] <weijie902> ic
[02:24] <dr_willis> Linksys Wireelss N Home router.  3.5/5 stars
[02:24] <weijie902> 3.5 seems too low imo
[02:24] <dr_willis> only does 2.4 ghz, not 5
[02:24] <dr_willis> its the highest rated one in the revies of this mag. :)
[02:25] <dr_willis> I need tomake a list of the features i want/need.  in the thing.
[02:25] <weijie902> ic
[02:26] <dr_willis> they call it 'wireless n draft 2.0' gee.. talk about buzz words
[02:27] <lord_kalaeth> join #portugal
[02:27] <sfire> linksys makes crappy radios
[02:28] <lord_kalaeth> ups :P
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> sfire: oh yeah? explain the perfect revies for the wrt54G.
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> we have a 54GL and its amazing
[02:28] <danya> guys whats the best mp3 converter ?
[02:29] <sfire> I can explain it.. people that don't know a real router :)
[02:29] <dr_willis> danya,  converting to what?
[02:29] <danya> wav to mp3
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> danya:  LAME
[02:29] <dr_willis> I tend to use lame to encode wav to mp3
[02:29] <dr_willis> or 'grip' to rip cd's to mp3
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> sfire: lol. you have to pay for those..
[02:29] <sfire> dr_willis: you could install dbpoweramp
[02:30] <sfire> thats how I do all that kind of encoding.. it works flawlessly with wine
[02:30] <lord_kalaeth> exit
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> its "/quit "....
[02:30] <dr_willis> :)
[02:31] <aldcor> hello ...
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:32] <aldcor> i need help...
[02:32] <dr_willis> !ask
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <dr_willis> and hello. :)
[02:33] <aldcor> i'm begginer, so question is - i downloaded flash install for LInux and it's  on *.gz format... i need know next step for install
[02:33] <aldcor> p.s. im not really good in english
[02:34] <concei> does anyone know how to get kdm theme manager working?
[02:34] <pascutti> concussin: just reinstall it, it will ask what would you like to use (gdm or kdm)
[02:34] <dr_willis> aldcor,  you started out the wrong way.
[02:35] <dr_willis> !flash
[02:35] <concussin> ok
[02:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:35] <dr_willis> you do not want to 'download and isntall'it that way.  You want to set up the repositiries and install it with the package manager.
[02:39] <concussin> this kdm theme manager is saying it needs root access and wants me to push the administrator button
[02:39] <concussin> but there is no button
[02:40] <aldcor> !flash
[02:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:44] <dr_willis> concussin,  maxamize the window
[02:44] <dr_willis> they tend to get hidden off the bottom of the window/borders
[02:51] <dreamer> ok, can someone finally help me? I've been getting this for some time now: sometimes during boot, apperantly another dhcpclient pops up .. trying to renew my ip-adress, F-ing with my network. Here's some more info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30776/
[02:51] <dreamer> it's dhclient3 that's making the trouble
[02:51] <dreamer> it doesn't always start on boot though, like once every 5-10 boots perhaps
[02:55] <dr_willis> wired network? or wireless?
[02:55] <dreamer> wired
[02:56] <aldcor> howto install this one ? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120&forumpage=10&PHPSESSID=cbcf96153c9d53e781925538a1df13e2 (please say it what and where i should write or do smth, not go there look at that etc.) couse i am really newb :/
[02:56] <dreamer> I'm on the university network, there's a central dhcp-server somewhere
[02:56] <pag> aldcor, sudo apt-get install kdmtheme
[02:57] <dr_willis> Hmm.. could be its some how timing out/resetting/releasing the dhcp lease.
[02:57] <pag> aldcor, put that command in konsole
[02:57] <aldcor> pag: thx...
[02:58] <aldcor> i new that apt-get and other commands need write in konsole
[02:58] <aldcor> im on linux 2 days and some things i allready know... but nothing much
[02:58] <sam1337> Does anybody know of a tool where i can select my system software packages and then the tool would tell me how big i need to make my partitions?
[02:59] <pag> sam1337, ~10GB for / and the rest for /home ;)
[03:00] <sam1337> pag you forgot /tmp and swap!
[03:00] <sam1337> pag im going to install a couple of games like nexuiz and tremulous too btw
[03:00] <pag> sam1337, swap depends on your RAM, and /tmp isn't necessary
[03:00] <sam1337> dosent /tmp prevent / from filling up? if im burning a dvd or something
[03:01] <sam1337> pag also i have 1gb of ram and people tell me contrasting sizes to make it
[03:01] <sam1337> (the swap)
[03:01] <pag> sam1337, I guess it's pretty same, if you make ie. 10GB / AND 4GB /tmp  or just 14GB /
[03:02] <dr_willis> All righty. found a wirelessN router..  now wondering about what wireless N cards even HAve linux support. :)
[03:02] <sfire> is there anyway I can see all 4gb of my ram running 32bit kubuntu
[03:02] <dr_willis> heh.
[03:02] <sfire> I just got a new machine and bought 4gb of ram.. linux is only using 3gb
[03:02] <pag> sam1337, 256MB should be enough for swap, but since you're going to play, I'd use >512MB
[03:03] <sam1337> pag so 1gb of swap should suffice right?
[03:03] <sfire> how much ram do you have sam1337 ?
[03:03] <sam1337> sfire 1gb of slow ram
[03:03] <sfire> swap should always = amount of ram
[03:03] <pag> sam1337, well; I have 1GB swap, but (for me) it's far too much
[03:03] <sfire> 1gb would be fine
[03:04] <sam1337> i have a 200gb hdd so i wont miss 1gb much
[03:04] <sam1337> if im going to make a /tmp partition do i really need as much as 4gb allocated to it?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> what program would you use to convert an mp3 back into a wav?
[03:05] <sfire> I never make a /tmp
[03:05] <sfire> I make a swap, /, and /home
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> so that it can be burnt as an audio cd?
[03:05] <dreamer>  < dr_willis> Hmm.. could be its some how timing out/resetting/releasing the dhcp lease. << that's what I'm thinking yeah, but the fact is: I don't need _two_ dhclients .. so why is it starting in the first place ..
[03:05] <sam1337> sfire your / is 10gb?
[03:05] <sfire> sam1337: 6
[03:05] <dreamer> dr_willis: the ps auk |grep dhc doesn't give me a clue about anything (can't read bash-code :#)
[03:06] <sfire> even 6 is over kill for me
[03:06] <sfire> I use about 1/2 of it
[03:06] <Karti> Hi all ...any reasons why my Konqueror would indicate stalled at the bottom left window when I open my home drive?
[03:06] <dr_willis> dreamer,    no idea there.. May want to check the forums. I recall some oddities with the dhc lient stuff in the past. but i always set up static ips now a days.
[03:06] <sam1337> sfire ok im going to stick with 10gb though because im going to have a couple of games installed
[03:07] <sam1337> sfire i also do dvd burning
[03:07] <dr_willis> my main fileserver with OOdles of stuff installed is right at 13 gb of stuff..
[03:07] <dr_willis> thatss a lot of data/iso files also
[03:07] <sfire> sam1337: dvd burning doesn't use the / partition
[03:07] <sfire> unless you tell it to for some goofy reason
[03:07] <dr_willis> the data drive it serves is 500gb at the moment. :)
[03:07] <sam1337> sfire dosent it use /tmp?
[03:07] <sfire> it can... I don't let it
[03:07] <sfire> I have it use my /home/username/tmp directory
[03:07] <dreamer> dr_willis: ah ok, yeah I made a post in networking already
[03:08] <sam1337> sfire you use k3b?
[03:08] <en1gma> sup all
[03:08] <sfire> sam1337: yes
[03:08] <sam1337> sfire so does all temporary files get stored in your /home/username/tmp? and how do you configure it like that?
[03:09] <sfire> I just configured k3b to use it
[03:09] <sfire> most things just have tiny temp files
[03:09] <sfire> and as far as games you could install them in your user directory
[03:10] <sfire> which is a option for most if you don't give is super user rights
[03:10] <sfire> (at least that I've seen)
[03:10] <sam1337> sfire yes i do that but i keep a couple of the games in my repository in my / so i can keep them updated
[03:10] <roald_> what are your favorite games?
[03:10] <en1gma> hey all. i have a usb 1gig thumbstick and no cd/dvd-rom drive and i also have 4 drives in a raid0 and 1 spare 13gig ide drive. what is the best way to install kubuntu kde
[03:10] <sam1337> tremulous, guild wars, nexuiz, ut2004
[03:11] <dr_willis> Been Playing "FreeCol" lately
[03:11] <dr_willis> new version just released last week.
[03:11] <dr_willis> Colonization Clone from the old days.
[03:11] <NLJazz> tremulous? like that:)
[03:11] <sfire> en1gma: why no cd/dvd-rom? you can't "borrow" one from another machine
[03:11] <sfire> you only need it for like 30 min
[03:11] <en1gma> not enough molex on the psu
[03:11] <sam1337> NLJazz its a good game but when you dont have the levels it takes hours to download them
[03:11] <sfire> en1gma: so unplug another drive
[03:12] <en1gma> has 4 molex and i have 5 hard drives and a vcard that uses it
[03:12] <NLJazz> sam1337: yeah well..
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> en1gma: maybe a Wubi installation?
[03:12] <NLJazz> take that for freedom:P
[03:12] <en1gma> whats a wubi
[03:12] <aldcor> ouu... i thort this kdmmanager controls all dekstop and icons... but it changes only login
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> en1gma: it installs linux from within windows
[03:12] <en1gma> i was hoping maybe a netinstall i can put on the thumbstick
[03:12] <en1gma> ewww thats even better
[03:13] <en1gma> checking for wubi in kubuntu dload section
[03:13] <sfire> en1gma: can you boot off a thumbdrive?
[03:13] <sfire> few computers I've seen support that
[03:13] <NLJazz> !wubi | NLJazz
[03:13] <sam1337> sfire so if i put my games in my /home/sam/.gamename and use /home/sam/.tmp for most of my temporary files and do a minimal install and keep my program list to a minimum then i need only a 2gb / ?
[03:13] <en1gma> sfire yep
[03:13] <en1gma> motherboard supports it
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> en1gma: its not a kubuntu download. Its its own  specil installer.
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> google it
[03:14] <en1gma> is there a kubuntu net-install maybe
[03:14] <sam1337> en1gma i like the sound of that
[03:14] <NLJazz> http://wubi-installer.org/
[03:14] <sfire> sam1337: I normally go 5 just to be on the safe side.. but it uses about 3.3 with my installs
[03:14] <sam1337> kubuntu would be well cool with the debian installer
[03:14] <sfire> so you could go 4 pretty easily
[03:15] <sam1337> sfire 4 or 5...... hmmmmm dilema time
[03:15] <sfire> if you have it to spair go 5
[03:15] <sam1337> sfire im planning on doing a base install btw
[03:16] <sam1337> sfire using the alternate cd
[03:16] <en1gma> getting that wubi
[03:16] <en1gma> looks nice
[03:16] <dr_willis> en1gma,  ICK. :0
[03:16] <sam1337> sfire actually it may be a bit too complicated to do that
[03:17] <dr_willis> from what ive seen people in here asking about wubi.. i will avoide it. :)
[03:17] <sam1337> sfire and time consuming is my biggest worry
[03:19] <en1gma> wubi installation size lets you pick from 4-8gigs. isnt there a way to just install kde cd1
[03:20] <en1gma> can i dload the kubuntu kde cd1 and mount it with d-tools
[03:20] <en1gma> and run it in windows
[03:20] <dr_willis> And it might even work! :)
[03:21] <sfire> me personally I would just unplug a drive and install using a cdrom
[03:21] <dr_willis> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3241082&sku=I69-2148%20A
[03:21] <sfire> dr_willis: I just got a new box
[03:21] <dr_willis> sfire,  i agree.. in fact thats how i tend to DO my linux installs.
[03:21] <sfire> C2D E6700
[03:21] <sam1337> is kde 4 going to be faster or slower than kde 3.5?
[03:21] <dr_willis> sfire,  tigerdirect has a quadcore bare bones system for $600
[03:21] <dr_willis> sam1337,  faster we hope. :)
[03:21] <en1gma> if i unplug 1 drive it will ruin my raid0
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> sam1337: should be faster.
[03:21] <sfire> better deals to be had on dells outlet site :)
[03:22] <dr_willis> sfire,  given what i hear about dell.. i tend to avoide them
[03:22] <sfire> I paid 999 for C2D E6700, 2GB Ram, 500gb sata hard drive
[03:22] <sfire> ordered 2 more gb of ram and a 150gb raptor from newegg
[03:22] <sam1337> sfire 999 of what?
[03:22] <sfire> slapped it all together and I have a KICKASS system for less than 1300 :)
[03:23] <dr_willis> for $1300 you better have a kicking system
[03:23] <sam1337> sfire i could get the same thing for less than 300
[03:23] <en1gma> amd is making a new motherboard that has ddr3 soldered to mb and it will operate at 1500 and supposibly is gonna be really fast
[03:23] <gan|y|med> hi
[03:23] <gan|y|med>  is there any way to get dri working with xgl?
[03:23] <dr_willis> en1gma,  asus is doing that also.
[03:23] <en1gma> maybe thats what i read
[03:23] <daavis> what i should do if i want that my linux looks like that? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(Fedora+Core+Package)?content=39290 (i meen what i should do with this  rpm file?
[03:23] <dr_willis> en1gma,  to be out in a few months i think. (next month perhaps)
[03:23] <en1gma> yea you correct its asus
[03:23] <sam1337> gan[y] ymed why not just use aiglx instead?
[03:24] <dr_willis> en1gma,  not sure how much $$$ it will cost however
[03:24] <en1gma> prob alot
[03:24] <en1gma> :)
[03:24] <daavis> what i should do if i want that my linux looks like that? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(Fedora+Core+Package)?content=39290 (i meen what i should do with this  rpm file?
[03:24] <pag> daavis, that is only a menu extention - no themes / wallpapers included :)
[03:24] <daavis> where i should search in this site for me?
[03:24] <en1gma> those pics are so small i cant see anything
[03:25] <dr_willis> i cant even get to that URL. from xchat.
[03:25] <dr_willis> the () conruses it
[03:25] <en1gma> lol
[03:25] <en1gma> get konv
[03:25] <pag> daavis, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/K+Menu+Gnome+(Debian+Package)?content=31031 hereis the same extention for *buntu, if you like
[03:26] <en1gma> i dont see any diff
[03:27] <en1gma> looks like default kde with a diff background
[03:28] <en1gma> brb coffee
[03:28] <runlevelten> From that """Cleaned up the K Menu""". Bye then.
[03:28] <nightyfall> hi
[03:29] <runlevelten> If I had a penny for every amateur attempt to "clean up the K menu". They all just remove installed apps from the menu. Which is broken.
[03:29] <dr_willis> all it looks like its doing is tweaking the menu layouts so theres a seperate 'gnome' menu item fwith all the gnome apps in it.
[03:29] <runlevelten> Don't clean it up for people, if they didn't like it they wouldn't use it, if they wanted their apps missing they'd remove them with kmenuedit
[03:30] <en1gma> isnt there a meta installer/uninstaller that uninstall complete packages and removes the apps and shortcuts
[03:31] <pag> en1gma, dpkg (and all it's front-ends) :)
[03:31] <en1gma> true
[03:32] <chameleonjackson> hallo ?
[03:32] <en1gma> almost have the kubuntu kde 7.04 dlaoded. i hope mounting it with d-tools in windows will allow it to install correct
[03:32] <daavis> well...but if i want smth like that http://www1.autistici.org/loa/terminal/themes/LOAtheme.jpg  ? pag wich programm supports that? you know...panel color, icons... all is on theme... how do this?
[03:33] <dr_willis> You set all the parts up individually.
[03:33] <dr_willis> a 'theme' file has the settings for the various parts. If you got the parts installed.
[03:33] <chameleonjackson>  test
[03:33] <en1gma> i have a x1950 pro and was reading this page "http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/12/14/ati-8325-display-drivers-with-xorg-72-support/" and was wondering if there is a new script for the ati driver for x64
[03:33] <dr_willis> ie the proper icon set, and widget set, and window decorations
[03:33] <chameleonjackson> fgfg
[03:34] <pag> CapaH, it works... next what?
[03:34] <en1gma> so i dont get that paravirt error
[03:34] <pag> CapaH, sorry, wrong tab-completion :-(
[03:34] <en1gma> it will just grow back
[03:35] <daavis> well...but if i want smth like that http://www1.autistici.org/loa/terminal/themes/LOAtheme.jpg  ? pag wich programm supports that? you know...panel color, icons... all is on theme... how do this? please help...
[03:35] <dr_willis> You set the colors tobe the same, tweak your panel settings, use their Ugly icon theme...
[03:35] <pag> daavis, panel colour can be set by right-clicking the panel. app-colours can be set in system settings etc.
[03:35] <dr_willis> thers no 'program' that does it.. Unless they include a THEME file for it.
[03:35] <en1gma> hey all for an x1950 pro pci-e vcard what is the latest script that will install the ati prop driver with kubuntu 7.04 amd64
[03:35] <dr_willis> and that theme file then sets the other 'settings'
[03:36] <en1gma> and hopefully no paravirt error
[03:36] <dr_willis> that LOAtheme - is one of the uglier themes ive seen lately. :)
[03:39] <en1gma> shiat i mounted the cd from within windows and i dont see any installer
[03:40] <pag> en1gma, you try to install an OS from within another OS? :P
[03:40] <dr_willis> en1gma,  thats what wubi is i thoight . the installer.
[03:40] <en1gma> i thought i did it with the kubuntu cd before
[03:40] <dr_willis> theres no 'setup.exe' on the cd :) well there maybe for the windows tools
[03:40] <dr_willis> !wubi
[03:41] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:41] <en1gma> dr_willis it only wants to let me select i386 and also 4-8 gig install
[03:41] <dr_willis> THe extent of my Wubiknowledge is from that factouid.,. and the fact i see perhaps a dozen people in here a week with problems with it. ;)
[03:42] <en1gma> so it dont work correct?
[03:42] <runlevelten> It's just the sort of thing that it seems like common sense to forego, if you don't mind me saying so.
[03:42] <runlevelten> Kind of like doing in-place upgrades on SuSE or windows servers, heh.
[03:43] <dr_willis> http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[03:43] <dr_willis> it sets up a 'disk file' on the windows disks.. it does NOT isntall to a 'partition'
[03:43] <dr_willis> it then makes a special boot entry in the windows stuff to boot from that file somehow.
[03:44] <en1gma> oh no
[03:44] <en1gma> i want this seperate ide hd to have a full install
[03:44] <en1gma> well not full but kde anyway
[03:44] <dr_willis> Then you are wasteing your time.. and should of read the wubi docs first. :)
[03:44] <runlevelten> dr_willis: Indeed. Ugh.
[03:44] <dr_willis> it CANT do it that way
[03:44] <en1gma> well thats cool
[03:44] <nonex> a
[03:45] <en1gma> ill keep looking
[03:45] <dr_willis> Can I use my free hard disk space and install Ubuntu there? -- Not at the moment, but the feature is in the pipeline
[03:45] <en1gma> i prob gonna need a netinstall
[03:45] <nonex> if you want ubuntu and kde, you should install kubuntu dont  U think?
[03:46] <runlevelten> Why can't you boot and install if you have free space>
[03:46] <runlevelten> ?
[03:46] <en1gma> i dont have a cd/dvd-rom
[03:46] <en1gma> not enough molex connectors
[03:47] <runlevelten> and nothing which could be unplugged for the install?
[03:48] <runlevelten> then plugged in again - ie I'll usually unplug an HD I'm not installing to if I come across that
[03:48] <en1gma> if i unplug 1 of the 4 drives in the raid0 it will destroy the raid0
[03:48] <en1gma> i cant believe there is no net-install for kubuntu
[03:48] <dr_willis> I always install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <dr_willis> I dont mess with raids any more :) toomuch hassle.
[03:49] <runlevelten> en1gma: there is, isn't there?
[03:49] <dr_willis> no power-splitters eh?
[03:50] <en1gma> i have splitters already connected for the extra ide drive and the vcard
[03:51] <en1gma> running 6 devices on 2 cables that normally have 4 connectors
[03:51] <en1gma> cd/dvd-rom would make 7
[03:51] <dr_willis> :)
[03:51] <en1gma> the psu kicks off when i try that...
[03:51] <en1gma> i have tried it :)
[03:52] <dr_willis> your PS only has 2   conectors.. ick
[03:52] <runlevelten> If you can't netinstall feisty, I will fall off my chair, tbh.
[03:52] <dr_willis> get a PS from a spare machine.. set it outside the case... :)
[03:52] <en1gma> it was my sons...i gave him my good system
[03:52] <en1gma> dr_willis i was thinking bout doing that...i have another comp in other room
[03:52] <en1gma> but dang
[03:54] <en1gma> :)
[03:54] <dr_willis> heh - it has to be an OLD powersupply, or it wont power up - unless conencted to somthing
[03:54] <dr_willis> or jumpered out some how
[03:54] <en1gma> omg thats right
[03:54] <en1gma> its like the green wire or something
[03:54] <dr_willis> :)
[03:54] <en1gma> paper clip :)
[03:54] <dr_willis> i forget.  wrong place = boom
[03:55] <en1gma> i know...i forget too
[03:55] <en1gma> :)
[03:55] <dr_willis> it MIGHT be time to be getting a bigger PS for that box. :)
[03:55] <en1gma> i think its green to black but i really forget AND all those wires on the psu connector are not always the same correct color so i would have to find the actually pinout
[03:55] <dr_willis> yep.
[03:55] <dr_willis> well i am off to the store. byeee
[03:55] <en1gma> ok man thanks
[03:56] <runlevelten> en1gma: have you tried instlux?
[03:57] <en1gma> not yet
[03:57] <en1gma> whats that
[03:58] <en1gma> nice
[03:58] <en1gma> i just googled it
[03:58] <runlevelten> it fetches the pxe (ie http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/386/) and does your business
[03:59] <runlevelten> caveat: I can't vouch for how well it works. I'd install what you know is supported by it and upgrade
[04:00] <en1gma>  	instluxCDROMUbuntu6_06english.exe dont look like there is a 7.04
[04:00] <runlevelten> that's what I was thinking, install that and then upgrade
[04:01] <en1gma>  	instluxNETUbuntu6_06english.exe also is not 7.04
[04:01] <en1gma> that might work
[04:03] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why my laptop's hd stops spinning every now and then? I'm watching a movie from my hd, and it pauses every now and then..
[04:03] <en1gma> that instlinux thing i think just made a bootloader in my raid0 and wants me to reboot
[04:03] <runlevelten> I still don't get why you can't net install though
[04:03] <en1gma> omfg
[04:04] <en1gma> i want to net install
[04:06] <en1gma> brb this thing wants me to reboot
[04:06] <en1gma> hope it didnt screw my raid0 partition up
[04:09] <mapster> I have some issues with the installation of kubuntu 7.04... right at the end it asks to remove the DVD from the drive and hit "Enter" and at that point it stops dead, could that be causing other issues that i am having, when i reset the machine it appears to start fine.
[04:10] <elite101> ahhh kubuntu 7.04 is in dvd formatt xD
[04:10] <runlevelten> sounds like a no acpi install mapster
[04:10] <Dragnslcr> mapster- I think at that point all that's left is to reboot anyway, so it should be fine
[04:11] <mapster> can u expand that...  =)
[04:11] <runlevelten> screen goes black, but the machine doesn't turn off yeah?
[04:11] <mapster> no, it just sit there, same screen..  stating to hit enter when the DVD is removed..
[04:12] <mapster> right..
[04:12] <runlevelten> enter just restarts the machine - use the power button :)
[04:12] <mapster> that is what i have done, (several time) as i am having a few other issues.. so i was not sure..
[04:13] <runlevelten> what other issues?
[04:13] <mapster> lol, ok, forgive me a i am new to linux..
[04:14] <mapster> but i have been trying to boot into a command line root..  right so i assumed that is selected form the left white square on boot (next to username and password..)
[04:14] <mapster> "console login" right?
[04:15] <P> hello does someone knows how to checkout the Oxygen Icons reponsitys?
[04:15] <runlevelten> You want to be thrown out to a non-graphical environment, or you want to go from boot to a non-graphical environment, or you just want to run a root shell?
[04:16] <runlevelten> to switch to a non-graphical shell from the windowing server, you can press ctrl+alt+f1, and ctrl+alt+f7 to switch back
[04:16] <mapster> install vid driver from root.. command line
[04:16] <P> ??? i just want the icons. i dont know the SVN link =)
[04:17] <runlevelten> then you want to press ctrl-alt-f1, login and do init 3
[04:17] <runlevelten> then install your driver :)
[04:17] <runlevelten> but hang on, what driver is it?
[04:17] <pag> P, iirc Oxygen icons do no longer work on kde3
[04:18] <runlevelten> Do you have an nvidia/ati card? If so, run restricted-manager
[04:18] <runlevelten> from your desktop envrionment
[04:18] <pag> P, http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/pics/oxygen/ <- here's the link to svn
[04:18] <P> realy? i loaded a package some month befor via SVN and it worked good
[04:18] <P> thanks
[04:19] <mapster> it's a video driver, nvidia.. issue??
[04:20] <pag> P, a quote from Ubuntuforums.org: "One big problem: the icon names used are incompatible with KDE 3.5. The Oxygen icons in KDE Trunk are following the FreeDesktop.org standards, which is not 100% compatible with the current naming scheme used on KDE 3.5.x."
[04:21] <mapster> @ runlevelten why restricted-manager?
[04:22] <runlevelten> Sorry, I'm making an assumption there. Normally these days when people want to init 3 and install gpu drivers it's because they're installing proprietary drivers
[04:22] <runlevelten> Is that what you're doing?
[04:23] <mapster> well i have download the nvidia driver and i am trying to install them..
[04:26] <SimonSays> hi. i've installed ubuntu 7.04 for the first time and am having problems with my wireless device
[04:26] <SimonSays> any advice from anyone who know how to get an interl wireless pro card to work?
[04:28] <SimonSays> i was told that this is the right place for support. corect?
[04:28] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[04:28] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how I can find what processes are using sound so I can terminate them?
[04:29] <runlevelten> mapster: run restricted-manager
[04:29] <runlevelten> that will do it automatically, ellegedly :)
[04:29] <pag> !wireless | SimonSays
[04:30] <ubotu> SimonSays: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:30] <mapster> np, "restricted-manager" @ command line?
[04:30] <runlevelten> *allegedly also, heh
[04:31] <runlevelten> sudo restricted manager
[04:31] <runlevelten> ;)
[04:31] <SimonSays> the docs at that link doesnt work - thats why i came here in recomenadtion of those docs
[04:32] <mapster> kewl, i can do that without having to go into the commandline from boot right?
[04:32] <runlevelten> yeah
[04:32] <mapster> thanks..  =)
[04:32] <runlevelten> np
[04:34] <vinicius> it seeme my kubuntu isn't recognizing the atx power managment, because when I shutdown the system, it does not turn of the machine automatically... anyone knows what can be this (i installed, so got the kubuntu)...
[04:34] <vinicius> *i installed ubuntu, so got the ubuntu
[04:34] <vinicius> *ubuntu --> kubuntu
[04:34] <vinicius> argh...
[04:35] <K-Ryan> You mean you have Ubuntu, and installed KDE?
[04:35] <vinicius> K-Ryan: yes
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: installed 'kubuntu-desktop'
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Didn't have that problem before installing KDE?
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Did you install anything else along with it?
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: no...
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: no
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Then I don't have a clue
[04:36] <K-Ryan> Sorry
[04:36] <vinicius> K-Ryan: thanks!
[04:37] <K-Ryan> Stick around, I'm sure someone can help.
[04:38] <Kjellviz> hi there, my Amarok aint behaving to good, it starts fine but when i add a song to playlist it becomes greyed out and hangs
[04:39] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: If I'm not mistaken there is an #amarok channel where you'd be able to get the best help, but feel free to ask here as well.
[04:40] <Kjellviz> ok ill try there, just thougth this was the place since it came bundled with the OS ><
[04:41] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: Yeah you can ask here too, it's just I can guarantee you'll figure it out faster there
[04:41] <K-Ryan> Well, almost guarantee
[04:41] <Kjellviz> heh im trying there too =)
[04:42] <K-Ryan> That's good, good luck with it
[04:44] <teufel> wenn ich mit Smb4k ein verzeichnis einhngen will bekomm ich folgende fehler meldung
[04:44] <teufel> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[04:44] <teufel> smbmnt failed: 1
[04:45] <teufel> jemand nen tipp?
[04:47] <K-Ryan> German?
[04:47] <K-Ryan> !de
[04:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:47] <teufel> thx
[04:48] <elite101> how do install the the packages i downloaded using adept like the universe and multiuniverse after i "fetch updates"
[04:48] <teufel> :)
[04:48] <K-Ryan> Np ;)
[04:48] <HayaBusa> just click on install after you fetched them
[04:49] <elite101> lol love that bike!!!
[04:49] <elite101> Suzuki hayabusa 1300R!!
[04:49] <elite101> thanx thou
[04:49] <HayaBusa> me too, but damn our government increasing the plate so i had to sell it before was too late
[04:50] <HayaBusa> might get a crouser that i saw , yamaha . custom
[04:50] <elite101> ahh u had one that sucks man
[04:50] <elite101> big bike thou
[04:50] <elite101> 4cycl
[04:50] <elite101> anyways
[04:51] <HayaBusa> 300 $ a year plate .. now is going up to 2000$ a year plate for fast motorcycle ..
[04:51] <elite101> yeah
[04:52] <elite101> i have alot of unistalled packages even after a re-install on kubuntu to i install them all in adept?
[04:52] <HayaBusa> im not linux expert , but you can install packages in adapt,. thats what i do wheni need something .
[04:53] <elite101> yeah but there are some i dont need? like say linux synthesizer? or a computer gui thing? do i need to install thoes or the thing that i need?
[04:53] <K-Ryan> Adept, Synaptic, or straight in the terminal
[04:54] <elite101> im not downloading any specific program just wanna update and turn on multi and universe packets then after i can get java and flashplayer to work for youtube
[04:54] <Kjellviz> how can i kill a hanging application ?
[04:55] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to add a second cd/dvd drive in virtualbox?
[04:55] <K-Ryan> Kjellviz: ctrl+alt+esc
[04:55] <elite101> hey they have an iso mounter on kubuntu? sweet lol
[04:55] <K-Ryan> Then click the program
[04:55] <Kjellviz> K-Ryan: thanks 0)
[04:55] <Kjellviz> =)
[04:55] <K-Ryan> No problem
[04:56] <elite101> what packets do i need to install java jre6?
[04:56] <HayaBusa> my problme with this new kubuntu is that i can not install driver for my graphic card. :(
[04:56] <K-Ryan> !java
[04:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:56] <K-Ryan> elite101: sun-java6-jre
[04:57] <elite101> im starting to learn more about kubuntu now its making more and more sense
[04:57] <elite101> i never touched a windows pc in 3 weeks!!!
[04:57] <sfire> wow... 3 whole weeks
[04:57] <elite101> lol
[04:57] <HayaBusa> i daul boot .. some program i need are on xp ..
[04:58] <elite101> i know
[04:58] <sfire> HayaBusa: tried wine?
[04:58] <elite101> but for now i wanna learn and if windows gets in the way it will be frusturating
[04:58] <elite101> yes
[04:58] <HayaBusa> no.. but i looked at DB and my program is not listed.
[04:58] <maxwel> Is that it?
[04:58] <elite101> Wine is good but some programs wont work to good!
[04:58] <sfire> I've had really good luck
[04:58] <sfire> (so far)
[04:59] <sfire> Torrent is flawless :)
[04:59] <HayaBusa> there is a program i might try , i think is called win4lin , it suppose to runn all windows program with native speed on linux
[04:59] <HayaBusa> Intell has invested lot of mony in VMWEAR my guess is to boost linux or something
[05:00] <elite101> after i install all these programs and packets do i need to restart my pc to make them work after?
[05:00] <HayaBusa> no not really
[05:00] <HayaBusa> thats a beautiy of linux i guess
[05:00] <runlevelten> win4lin isn't very good - if you want non-3d compatibility you're better off with vmware
[05:00] <ubuntu> Hey there folks
[05:00] <BluesKaj> win4lin runs windows 95-98, not XP, AFAIK
[05:00] <runlevelten> a lot better than win4lin and there are free versiona available
[05:01] <runlevelten> *versions
[05:01] <HayaBusa> it will run 2000 and xp as per thier website
[05:01] <elite101> yes i know how to download updates and stuff lol i am so happy!!
[05:01] <runlevelten> wtg elite101 :)
[05:01] <elite101> lol
[05:01] <elite101> better than me asking everyone to do stuff for me!!
[05:01] <elite101> i can do it on my own lol
[05:01] <ubuntu> I got a couple questions. Is anyone using the Kubuntu Gutsy tribe 3?
[05:02] <pag> !gutsy | ubuntu
[05:02] <ubotu> ubuntu: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <runlevelten> Finding your way with new stuff - I love that feeling so much :D
[05:02] <elite101> how many linux distros are there?
[05:02] <runlevelten> So cool.
[05:02] <elite101> lol
[05:02] <runlevelten> elite101: NAN
[05:02] <elite101> whats nan?
[05:02] <K-Ryan> not available now
[05:02] <runlevelten> not a number, heh. Too many to count really.
[05:02] <elite101> ohh
[05:02] <elite101> yeah
[05:02] <ubuntu> Elite, there are several distros mixed for x86, x64, Mac, etc..
[05:02] <elite101> there is alot of kubutu's thou
[05:03] <K-Ryan> Or what runlevelten said...
[05:03] <K-Ryan> *buntu
[05:03] <K-Ryan> There's one Kubuntu, one Ubuntu, etc.
[05:03] <elite101> mac?? thats pretty cool?
[05:03] <K-Ryan> The group of them is called *buntu
[05:03] <runlevelten> Of course.
[05:03] <elite101> i mean versions of ubuntu
[05:03] <HayaBusa> i love MAC GUI ..
[05:03] <elite101> like some have KDE and Edgy
[05:03] <HayaBusa> wish new how to turn my kubuntu to look like mac
[05:03] <elite101> what is the diff?
[05:03] <runlevelten> It's Free open source software, if it's got the juice to run it, and if it meets certain really basic req's, you can port to it :)
[05:04] <elite101> a better gui?
[05:04] <elite101> i heard of linux on a router ppl run on linksys wrtg45?
[05:04] <HayaBusa> not better , but i like the way it is .
[05:04] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: I use OS-L icons, and have the app menu like OS X (set in desktop behaviour in kcontrol)
[05:04] <ubuntu> Elite there are several spring offs for ubuntu. The beauty of Linux is that it can be nearly fully customized to fit any particular need or fancy..
[05:04] <runlevelten> also you can use Apple keybindings in KDE
[05:04] <elite101> so u can make yout kubuntu feel like a mac osx or windows but it wont be thats pretty cool!!
[05:04] <runlevelten> I don't run the dock anywhere, but there are apps that supposedly do that too
[05:05] <HayaBusa> i new to linux , this type of modification for is out of question.. due to the fact that i crashed my linux humm few times . heheheh
[05:05] <elite101> i wanna get a fake vista theme with the tranparent class effect on all the windows
[05:05] <runlevelten> Mine *looks a tiny bit* like OS X, and the menus work like it, but the OS itself is a lot better and more robust and more powerful than OS X
[05:05] <SimonSays> i find this form to be crap and ubuntu not very user friendly. i say this with over 18yrs of Microsoft operating systems experience. no wonder no other OS has yet been able to rival Bill's vision of usability
[05:06] <ubuntu> I have Kubuntu on this computer, my studio uses 64Studio, I have Ubuntu Ultimate on my notebook.
[05:06] <HayaBusa> you forgot about VISTA.. no one moving to it
[05:06] <runlevelten> It's fine if you're not a dummy, basically.
[05:06] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: All of that can be done with your mouse
[05:06] <HayaBusa> even Dell started to offer Kubuntu ..
[05:06] <runlevelten> the modification etc.
[05:07] <HayaBusa> thanks. runlevel..
[05:07] <ubuntu> Simon, keep your eyes open, people are starting to look more at linux.
[05:07] <elite101> kubuntu can rescue broken systems althou i did have problems mounting a NTFS partition'd harddrive
[05:07] <HayaBusa> for now i have to figure on how to install my graphic cards driver..
[05:07] <runlevelten> Install OS-L and mac sounds, use mac menus, install baghira and use it, install kxdocker and beryl and use them
[05:07] <runlevelten> all with a mouse in kcontrol, synaptic and a browser :)
[05:07] <ubuntu> People are tired of paying $200 for a basic OS and $400 for a complete OS..
[05:07] <SimonSays> hopefully next time a rival is more worthy
[05:07] <SimonSays> cheers
[05:08] <HayaBusa> lol. micorosft spy
[05:08] <runlevelten> "Worthy".
[05:08] <runlevelten> BAHAHAHAHAHA!
[05:08] <runlevelten> Excuse me. Sorry.
[05:08] <elite101> so can i search up something in adept eg and program name and it will show me the packets to download and install it?
[05:08] <gambix> hi to all :)
[05:08] <ubuntu> Some folks are just scared of change (and a little terminal)
[05:08] <runlevelten> hi gambix :)
[05:08] <HayaBusa> vista is been the best thing ever happend to any other OS out there. seems no one really bothering with that crapy OS anyways.
[05:09] <gambix> is there someone that success on running compiz-fusion without windows-decorator problems ?
[05:09] <runlevelten> I'm a programmer and sysadmin, I'm amazed anyone thinks that other software can match up against GNU/Linux.
[05:09] <ubuntu> I have a dual boot, vista and Kubuntu (Loading Gutsy right now) And all being honest, I like the linux distros better.
[05:10] <runlevelten> The game involves GNU/Linux. the big BSDs and possibly Solaris. Windows is not a contender for anything but washing the glasses after the party.
[05:10] <ubuntu> The only reason I keep windows on is that there are still a couple programs I use that require windows. But I am seeing many more linux apps emerging here lately..
[05:11] <gambix> ubuntu: true, this week end i've swapped 10 computers on linux kubuntu :)
[05:11] <runlevelten> But I'm biased towards server apps to be fair.
[05:11] <elite101> wow adept is installing alot of updates even some saying Python??
[05:11] <HayaBusa> everyone that i know , including me , running window , they have to have tons of security software on thier system , you never endup using your computers full power due to the fact of those program running in the background to protect your pc.. with linux i have no problmes like that
[05:11] <BluesKaj> the PC mags are lining up with Bill gates pushing his latest offering like mad ...it's rather sickening cuz , half the hardware programs ppl had running xp won't run on vista, so that fact keeps the mags in business with lots of articles on on to fix the probs .
[05:11] <K-Ryan> elite101: Yep
[05:11] <runlevelten> elite101:  good stuff
[05:11] <elite101> yes i know what u mean
[05:11] <elite101> avg,sygate,ad-ware se
[05:11] <elite101> ohh a windows defender
[05:11] <BluesKaj> on how to fix the probs
[05:11] <elite101> firewall all the way up
[05:12] <elite101> just to boot windows takes 5mins before i can acutally do something
[05:12] <HayaBusa> billy has lots of money , and everyone else got price ..:) ..
[05:12] <gambix> on linux the securities systems are included on the kernel for a great part
[05:12] <gambix> have you already the windows menu ?
[05:12] <gambix> sartmenu ?
[05:12] <elite101> linux takes awhile since it mount's hdd and drivers and such but atleats it goes way faster
[05:12] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: exactly, for all the ease of use and the quick install of windows, I don't find myself installing extra software and drivers from disc/internet for 2 hours after installing ubuntu
[05:12] <HayaBusa> im talking about viruse, adwear, trojans and stuff.
[05:13] <Biovore> well linux security is based mostly on the fact you don't use the computer as the super user (Administrator)
[05:13] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: and I don't find myself needing an extra core to run the AV, anti-spyware/whatever else, which all amounts to bailing out a boat with a hole in.
[05:13] <ubuntu> The only complaint I have had so far running linux on this computer is that my computer being an amd64 doesn't like loading 32 bit linux. And there are limits still in 64 bit linux.
[05:13] <HayaBusa> lol, is true ..
[05:13] <elite101> yeah you have to have a anti-virus once u step foot on the internet they attack your pc with spyware u need a condom for your windows pc
[05:13] <ubuntu> But I am sticking with it. I have faith in the little penguin that could..
[05:13] <Biovore> ubuntu: there limits on 64bit windows as well
[05:14] <HayaBusa> ihave 64 bit AMD and im running 32 bit linux with no problme what so ever.
[05:14] <elite101> whats the diff between 64bit isnt that better i am assuming u mean like viewing and graphics
[05:14] <runlevelten> I believe in the best tool for the job. At the moment, that means run windows when you play oblivion. With the network card disabled.
[05:14] <runlevelten> Maybe.
[05:14] <runlevelten> heh
[05:14] <ubuntu> Biovore, I agree. However, windows 32 has no problems loading on a 64 processor..
[05:15] <elite101> whats the diff?
[05:15] <elite101> 32/64
[05:15] <Biovore> not much
[05:15] <runlevelten> For most purposes not much
[05:15] <HayaBusa> windows is going down . and they know it .. look at thier DOT NET .. no one porting into DOT NET as well .
[05:15] <elite101> but why are they diffrent i am meaning in graphics like 32bitt if thats what u mena?
[05:15] <runlevelten> video encoding and some other stuff will be noticeably faster using 64 bit builds
[05:15] <Biovore> 64 you might occasionly save a on cpu cycle when multipliing or adding large numbers..
[05:15] <ubuntu> elite, 64 bit systems can load larger packages at a time, in essence, it runs more efficiently than 32 bit..
[05:15] <elite101> okay
[05:15] <runlevelten> mostly you find things about the same for desktop use
[05:16] <elite101> i always wondered why they had them diffrent 32 and 64bitt
[05:16] <gambix> i use linux for the simplicity of use, it's more simple than windows... thanks to the ubuntu forums too :), ... kde simplify the use too
[05:16] <runlevelten> for lots of non-desktop computing stuff 64 bit platforms are very handy.
[05:16] <elite101> so u can run 32 bit software on 64bit prossecor and it should be okay
[05:16] <HayaBusa> i been using photoshop for some times, but i just started to GIMP and it seems pretty good ..
[05:17] <Biovore> HayaBusa: gimp works better if you got a drawing tablet.
[05:17] <ubuntu> Elite, in the near future, the 32 bit OS will disappear. 64 is more efficient, and now you can't buy a pc that isn't amd 64 or Intel em64t
[05:17] <HayaBusa> one of the reason im running 32 bit on 64 is that there is no flash player for 64 bit . on nighter platform as far as i can tell
[05:17] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: Set your layers/tool palette/etc to always on top, and put them in the same places they are in photoshop
[05:17] <elite101> lol i love when ppl get mad when they are gamming they blame the hardware for the stupid ness. lol my moms boyfriend is playing ra2 and he smahing his mouse
[05:17] <CPrompt^> hi all.  There was a post on a forum (I think it was Linux Questions but not sure) where someone posted directions on how to set up 2 hard drives to dual boot windows and linux.  Anyone know where that might be?
[05:17] <runlevelten> You'll probably find it a bit faster to use/explore the interface
[05:18] <runlevelten> Also, I tend to put gimp on its own desktop for intensive work
[05:18] <ubuntu> Haya, I have to use ndswrapper for flash and java
[05:18] <HayaBusa> i got tablet , but have to figure how to install stuff like that , I am taking one baby step at the time with linux :) ..
[05:18] <elite101> what is cheaper a ps3? or a new pc gamming pc?
[05:18] <HayaBusa> PS3
[05:18] <runlevelten> the second, although you can always find someone to charge you too much for a pc
[05:18] <runlevelten> heh
[05:18] <Biovore> you install linux on a PS3 as well
[05:18] <elite101> yes
[05:19] <ubuntu> Elite, PS3, many game companies have already stated that they will start focusing more on the game consoles than PC now..
[05:19] <sam1337> anybody know of a good font?
[05:19] <runlevelten> No good for gaming though
[05:19] <elite101> and windows but i will dual boot
[05:19] <elite101> lol
[05:19] <elite101> i mean triple!!
[05:19] <ubuntu> Biovore, I have acutually lookes at loading Yellowdog on my PS3
[05:19] <elite101> they say yellow dog linux is good
[05:19] <runlevelten> No decent hardware acceleration, you see, and the arch means that most of the best Linux 3d games are a nono
[05:19] <Biovore> Ubuntu ppc I think will work on the PS3
[05:19] <elite101> yeah but u cant put windows on your ps3/ you can but your running three os'es
[05:19] <runlevelten> basically, don't expect to use the ps3 for Linux games
[05:20] <pag> sam1337, for what? do you seek 'cool' look or readability? :)
[05:20] <sam1337> pag clearness
[05:20] <sam1337> pag so really readability
[05:20] <elite101> and u can use the xbox360 controller using linux drivers!!!
[05:20] <Biovore> PS3 is x86.. windows will not run on it..
[05:20] <HayaBusa> one thing i don't get .. why people want to play intensive games on PC while they already have good gaming consols ???
[05:20] <Biovore> (isn't)
[05:20] <elite101> yes it will
[05:20] <runlevelten> PS3 isn't x86, lol :)
[05:20] <elite101> youtube it
[05:20] <sam1337> HayaBusa so they dont have to pay for 2 machines
[05:20] <HayaBusa> i have ps2, and thats all , if i need to play game , i just play with my PS2
[05:20] <elite101> this guys runs yellow dog and then he runs windowsxp pro
[05:20] <Biovore> well someone is pulling a prank.. it can not.. and will not run on a PS3
[05:21] <Biovore> its the wrong hardware platform
[05:21] <sam1337> HayaBusa and general conveniance
[05:21] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: PC gaming offers extensibility and the usual control devices offer FAR greater accuracy
[05:21] <pag> sam1337, I use Red Hat's Liberation -fonts with Anti-aliasing turned on and it looks rather clear to me.
[05:21] <sam1337> HayaBusa and theres alot more games available
[05:21] <elite101> yes it will i will bring up the link and this time only post it once :)
[05:21] <runlevelten> (I've written software to interface console controllers to FPS engines, console controllers are very very inaccurate)
[05:21] <Biovore> sam1337: you can install any ttf font you want..
[05:21] <mewshi> hello :)
[05:22] <HayaBusa> I guess everyone is different , i use my PC for my work .. such as a bit of programming , internet , graphics, and talk to you guys. :) .
[05:22] <mewshi> I have discovered the amazing beauty of ubuntu :)
[05:22] <runlevelten> Now I have to load up my music player :)
[05:22] <sam1337> mewshi so have 8 million other people
[05:22] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: at the moment I'm living vicariously with drivers, so no FPS for me
[05:22] <runlevelten> helps me get more work done anyway
[05:22] <elite101> well i cant always beleive everything u see on youtube but this guy does run windows on ps3!!
[05:23] <mewshi> after 6 months of trying, ubuntu finally gave me the resources to get the wireless working
[05:23] <runlevelten> living vicariously == no non-Free drivers.
[05:23] <mewshi> and it works GREAT
[05:23] <sam1337> mewshi you could of just tried different distributions one of them is bound to work
[05:23] <runlevelten> mewshi: Excellent stuff! You enjoying it?
[05:24] <runlevelten> OpenSuSE is better for hardware and codecs generally, although I've seen tests that found ubuntu had better hardware support for centre cases.
[05:24] <runlevelten> so you know, it's what works for you.
[05:25] <BluesKaj> suse repos ...bleh
[05:25] <HayaBusa> anyone got some experiance with RAD5 ? i have a script that requires flash comm server .. but I aint paying arm and leg for that monster.
[05:25] <elite101> hes running windows xp on linux kernel the video comments say its a chinees winxp thou
[05:25] <runlevelten> It ain't the repos, the repos and the build service and the QC and the default configs were all great
[05:26] <runlevelten> Novell just crapped all over the package management syste rom a great height, then all over us.
[05:26] <elite101> Biovore, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ecr8tWetI thats the link for the ps3 running windows!!!! HAHA
[05:26] <runlevelten> drove folks away, and consequently their distro will slide down the quality ladder.
[05:27] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, really ..? my experience with suse repos was awful ...broken pkg allover the map
[05:27] <runlevelten> Although Novell still contribute much more code to the software we're using than any other company at the moment.
[05:27] <sam1337> opensuse has a crap package management systsem
[05:27] <runlevelten> as far as I'm aware
[05:27] <sam1337> apt is the best!
[05:27] <dra90n3ddy> hi all, just a quick question, what size partition is recomended for kubuntu install?
[05:27] <sam1337> 5gb
[05:27] <runlevelten> I use apt on SuSE :p
[05:27] <BluesKaj> as large as you want
[05:28] <HayaBusa> damn i think i forgot the name of comm server equivalent for linux :(
[05:28] <runlevelten> when I work with SuSE servers, I have apt installed on them.
[05:28] <dra90n3ddy> ty sam1337
[05:28] <sam1337> dra90n3ddy 5gb root paritition i mean
[05:28] <runlevelten> I'm above 5gigs now, tbh
[05:29] <elite101> cant u run linux on a ps2 there is a kit for it?
[05:29] <sam1337> im at 7gb but using about 20% of it
[05:29] <Karti> could some one tell me the command or link to the kubuntu bot information page
[05:29] <pag> !ubotu | Karti
[05:29] <runlevelten> elite101: yes you can. Again, you won't have access to much of the gaming functionality
[05:29] <ubotu> Karti: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:30] <Karti> pag: by the way I found out the answer for the smb links in the /etc/fstab
[05:30] <elite101> runlevelten, why not i wonder how much ram the video card would show on ps2????
[05:30] <runlevelten> sam1337: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/ ;)
[05:30] <pag> Karti, congratulations :)
[05:30] <[4K^Javax] > :D
[05:30] <Karti> pag: I had to apt-get install smbfs
[05:30] <Karti> for future reference of course ;)
[05:31] <elite101> wow my adept is updating somuch stuff rite now wholy!
[05:31] <sfire> elite101: I just got a bunch of updates myself
[05:32] <sam1337> runlevelten i doubt it is as robust, quick, easy, powerful as a default apt package management system
[05:32] <runlevelten> Is it KDE updates?
[05:32] <elite101> lol u wont belive it went threw 20downloads and its only reading at 13% on the totall porgress
[05:32] <elite101> if i run ubuntu on my  xbox would i beable to talk to you guys on IRC?
[05:32] <elite101> lol
[05:32] <runlevelten> sam1337: It's the best apt available for the platforms, tbh. That's one whole hill of beans better than nothing if you need it.
[05:32] <sam1337> why would you want ubuntu on your xbox?
[05:33] <elite101> something a littel differnt
[05:33] <elite101> beats the xbox loading screen!!
[05:33] <BluesKaj> if you can connect to your ISP, whynot?
[05:33] <pag> Karti, thanks for the info, I'll try to keep that in mind :)
[05:33] <elite101> thats cool would it go fast i mean 64mb ram/733Mhz
[05:33] <elite101> xbox specs:
[05:33] <Karti> pag: its now on my quick fix spreadsheet (need to get out more!)
[05:33] <BluesKaj> I've heard of several linux hacks for the xbox
[05:34] <HayaBusa> how can i uninstall .deb package that i downloaded and installed on my system ?
[05:34] <elite101> yeah stuff about dvd firmware and such
[05:34] <mewshi> is there something like portable apps for linux? :\
[05:34] <pag> HayaBusa, sudo apt-get remove nameofthepackage
[05:34] <elite101> gamming systems should support linux thats pretty cool on how u can go and surf the web and such
[05:34] <sfire> HayaBusa: right click it
[05:35] <HayaBusa> thanks. i got to write that down .
[05:35] <sam1337> HayaBusa apt-get remove packagename
[05:35] <sfire> oh... I didn't see the "un" part
[05:35] <Biovore> mewshi: basicly if you the source code for the application you can put it on any platform, and OS if its been written right..
[05:35] <runlevelten> portable apps? as in firefox, thunderbird etc?
[05:35] <mewshi> yeah, portabe OO.o is WONDERFUL for me
[05:36] <mewshi> but i can't get it to run from my drive :(
[05:36] <BluesKaj> elite101, it's still computer, just setup for gaming , that's all
[05:36] <HayaBusa> dose remove command , remove everything about that program , or like microsoft uninstaller , later i have to go and remove files and folders manully
[05:36] <runlevelten> It still loads a native executable mewshi
[05:36] <runlevelten> So you just need to do exactly the same thing with a Linux version of those apps
[05:36] <elite101> after i do the huge updates do i have to restart my computer?
[05:36] <elite101> and u can still play on xbox games too
[05:37] <elite101> i love portable apps!
[05:37] <runlevelten> HayaBusa: apt-get remove packagename
[05:37] <mewshi> how?  like, for oo.o i just had to run a file to install it to the drive O-o
[05:37] <elite101> i have portable apps installed on my psp so i can connect it toanother pc and use my firefox
[05:37] <pag> HayaBusa, it doesn't remove configuration-files iirc.
[05:37] <HayaBusa> thanks.
[05:38] <mewshi> yeah, but how would i do a portable version of OO.o?
[05:38] <runlevelten> apt-get --purge remove packagename does.
[05:38] <runlevelten> well, now you know you need to make a linux-specific version, so you know what to ask the console or the wall of light to obtain your answer :)
[05:39] <runlevelten> right, I must go.
[05:39] <runlevelten> later
[05:39] <HayaBusa> later runlevel
[05:40] <CPrompt^> got a new video card and am having issues.  anyone care to help? :(
[05:40] <pag> CPrompt^, what model?
[05:40] <sam1337> what sort of issues?
[05:40] <CPrompt^> ATI Radeon
[05:41] <sam1337> you shouldnt of got that card
[05:41] <CPrompt^> i have multiple xorg.conf files for one problem.
[05:41] <sam1337> nvidia has far superior drivers
[05:41] <sam1337> i got a new video card just because it was an nvidia one
[05:42] <elite101> im running nvidia Vanta 1mb of video ram 256 colours
[05:42] <elite101> 640x480
[05:42] <BluesKaj> sam1337, stop critique , he's here for help , not to be chastised for buying the "wrong" graphics card
[05:42] <elite101> lol
[05:42] <sam1337> BluesKaj sorry ill go away then since im not much help
[05:42] <elite101> ati radeon is not bad better than anything i have :)
[05:42] <sam1337> bye everyone
[05:42] <pag> CPrompt^, multiple? like xorg.conf, xorg.conf.bak etc?
[05:42] <Karti> anyone know a way I can test my 5:1 sound card?
[05:42] <CPrompt^> pag : no like xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf2 etc...
[05:43] <CPrompt^> all the way to 7
[05:43] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, which ATI card ?
[05:43] <elite101> Karti, blast metallica?
[05:43] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : RADEON X600 256MB HYPERMEMORY
[05:43] <CPrompt^> no sorry
[05:43] <mewshi> :\
[05:43] <elite101> ha i have 512mb video ram nvidia 8900gtx
[05:43] <Karti> elite101: I like the idea, but was thinking more like white noise on each speaker ;)
[05:43] <pag> CPrompt^, and not the 'normal' xorg.conf ?
[05:44] <elite101> Karti, lol
[05:44] <elite101> Karti, just play a movie with good pholyphone digital surrond support?
[05:44] <HayaBusa> anyone got experiance with RED5???
[05:44] <CPrompt^> Radeon x300 SE
[05:44] <Karti> or maybe Lordi , those Eurovision Champions....ahhh
[05:44] <BluesKaj> ok CPrompt^ describe your problem
[05:45] <CPrompt^> it boots into console
[05:45] <Karti> elite101: Its just that I used a test before ..sure its test speakers
[05:45] <elite101> i was going to get the Nvidia 9900 with 1gig/ram 2.4ghz GPU and liquid cooling but ohwell
[05:45] <CPrompt^> i can try the startx but it will hang
[05:45] <Biovore> CPrompt^: I think x300 is on of those cards ATI dosn't support on linux..
[05:45] <BluesKaj> Biovore, not true!
[05:45] <CPrompt^> eigh.  I'll just put the nVidia back in.  :)  The Radeon was given to me anyway.  Just thought I'd give it a shot :p
[05:46] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, ok you're going to have to choose an active xorg.file ...having 2 of them is not a good idea
[05:46] <CPrompt^> It's the same memory anyway.  But doesn't the "HyperMemory" part mean that it is using some of the RAM for the video card?
[05:46] <Karti> found it.......its speaker-test
[05:46] <elite101> Karti, lol are u testing to see if it works? are they 5.1 speakers u wil get better sound qual. if u have a 5.1-7.1surrond sound supported card
[05:47] <elite101> creative augidy or something like is pretty good card
[05:47] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj :  I think one of the things that happened was that I used this script to install Beryl a while back.  That seems to be what is causing the weirdness for the xorg.conf files
[05:47] <Biovore> audigy is a SB Live minius the hardware pcm mixing
[05:47] <BluesKaj> ok, but the Radeon will work for 3d and DRI , it's just somewhat limited vs the nVidia
[05:48] <Karti> elite101: I have a creative audidy card that I have just put in and wanted to test it. I get sound from it fine but wanted to make shure each speaker worked correctly
[05:48] <elite101> okay
[05:48] <Karti> all help or pointers ia appreciated
[05:48] <elite101> Karti, do they work
[05:48] <Karti> yes... ;)
[05:48] <elite101> lol nice
[05:48] <elite101> what kind of speaker logitech or something
[05:48] <CPrompt^> BlueKaj : would it be possible to just delete the other xorg.conf files and reboot?  Not sure if I can find a driver for the ATI though.
[05:49] <Karti> yes logitech
[05:49] <elite101> lol sounds like u bought this stuff all at wal-mart!!
[05:49] <elite101> or staples
[05:49] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, yes but I recommend running a reconfigure of the Xorg file
[05:50] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : care to refresh my memory on how to do that?
[05:50] <elite101> what is the best multimedia player? for say .mp3/mp4/avi/pcm?
[05:50] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, at the prompt or in the terminal , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:50] <elite101> lol 101
[05:51] <pag> !best | elite101
[05:51] <ubotu> elite101: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:51] <elite101> kaffine lol/
[05:51] <pag> elite101, movies = Kaffeine, music = amarok  (my choises)
[05:51] <mewshi> for example, i might prefer xmms to amarok
[05:51] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : thanks!
[05:52] <elite101> well brb udpates are going to take like 1hour going to go play some halo2
[05:52] <jhutchins> Me, I never could get kaffeine to work for more than a couple of file formats, now I just use mplayer.
[05:52] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, BTW , I use a patched and modded driver on feisty , that if you are careful can make th Radeon X300 run fine ...I'm using an on board x200g and it works well, but I'm not into eye candy much , so.....
[05:52] <mewshi> elite101, when you say best, do you mean best interface, best implementations of formats, what?
[05:52] <elite101> ahh for the most file  format supported
[05:53] <mewshi> Ok :)
[05:53] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : don't need the eyecandy, just need it to work ;)
[05:53] <elite101> like the one that can play the most files from .mp4 wich i need the most
[05:53] <mewshi> that one is a little more cut-and-dried than the "Best interface"
[05:53] <elite101> anything play .mp4?
[05:53] <mewshi> um... yeah, some stuff does
[05:54] <elite101> or m-peg layer4
[05:54] <mewshi> i just don't know what XD
[05:54] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, ok here's a tutorial for low end ATI cards : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[05:54] <mewshi> god, it's been like 10 months since I last used linux on a constant basis
[05:54] <elite101> i will have to download an mp4 file and see what will open it once i click on it and see how i like it
[05:55] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : awsome thanks!
[05:55] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, the xine engine is the setting to choose in Kaffeine , it runs most video formats
[05:55] <elite101> i want to make a server in the future for my friends to access online and for me to put files away would be nice wondering if it can be a wireless adhoc one?
[05:55] <elite101> what nvm thats not possible lol
[05:56] <elite101> it has to be infrastructure lol ad-hoc only i would beable to use it
[05:56] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, don't thank me yet ...wait til it's setup and working ... :)
[05:58] <mewshi> is there a program like netstumbler?
[05:58] <zero_> hey
[05:59] <zero_> i did upgrade at adept and now there is ubuntu kernel 15 and ubuntu kernel 16
[05:59] <zero_> when i go to 16 my modem doesnt work
[05:59] <zero_> if it is a different kernel /lib/firmware is different?
[06:01] <zero_> anyone that can help?
[06:03] <BluesKaj> mewshi, wireless ?
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[06:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !ndsiwrapper
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndsiwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[06:07] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[06:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:08] <zero_> can you help me blueskaj?
[06:08] <joshjosh> I just updated on my HP dv6110us and when I did my power manager says the battery has been removed...
[06:08] <joshjosh> wondering if anyone with a laptop has the same problem....
[06:10] <BluesKaj> zero_, dunno , depends on the prob , just ask and someone will help, if i can't.
[06:11] <zero_> my modem is kinda strange and to make it work i had to extract firmware
[06:11] <zero_> in lib/firmware/something
[06:11] <zero_> now i did adept upgrade
[06:11] <zero_> and grub has
[06:11] <zero_> ubuntu kernel something.something.something.15
[06:11] <zero_> and the same thing with 16
[06:11] <zero_> i entered 16 and the modem didnt work
[06:13] <neusonce> grrrrr, i need some help trying to install flash!   no terminal cmds work
[06:13] <Agent_137> i'm having the worst trouble getting this flash tar ball installed on konqueror, and i'm using the 32 bit version, too. will it work with konq? What's the default install directory for konq?
[06:13] <BluesKaj> zero_, sorry I have no idea except for you to search for new drivers for your modem that run on the new kernel
[06:13] <zero_> oh...
[06:13] <jhutchins> !flash | neusonce
[06:13] <ubotu> neusonce: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:13] <neusonce> thank you  :)
[06:14] <Agent_137> that answers my question too, it seems
[06:14] <jhutchins> zero_: Any time you update the kernel, you need to update any separately installed modules and drivers as well.
[06:14] <Agent_137> thanks.
[06:14] <pascutti> !flash
[06:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:15] <BluesKaj> Agent_137, installing the flash nonfree versions thru adept or synaptic, assures a global install (all apps requiring flash will work)
[06:17] <Agent_137> excellent, thanks
[06:18] <houmala> Somehow I got the file opening with gThumb(?) how do I get it back to "normal" ???
[06:20] <pag> houmala, right click on the file, choos open with -> other  there select a programm you lick, and tick "remember.." -box
[06:20] <zero_> hey pag
[06:20] <zero_>  was |Zero|H|I|T| yesterday
[06:20] <zero_> i reinstalled kubuntu
[06:20] <houmala> Anyone... somehow I got got gThumb image viewer displaying the files. How do I get back to "normal" way of viewing files????
[06:20] <pag> like, no lick... I clearly cannot type anymore :P
[06:21] <southafrikanse> Hello. I've install KDM but I can't find it
[06:21] <houmala> What is the program for viewing files "normally"???
[06:21] <pag> zero_, oh.. did the reinstall went well?
[06:21] <pag> houmala, what files?
[06:21] <GrahamA> southafrikanse: What do you mean you can't find it?
[06:21] <southafrikanse> GrahamA: I can't find the shortcut
[06:22] <zero_> yeah i guess
[06:22] <houmala> general file list , the file list are showing like images in gThumb.
[06:22] <zero_> but when i boot
[06:22] <GrahamA> You're not maing sense.
[06:22] <zero_> a message came
[06:22] <GrahamA> What shortcut.
[06:22] <neusonce> grrrr im still stuck, the link you gave me was for  an ealier version of ubuntu
[06:22] <eltese> why cant I write in my sources.list file? How do I change the permissions?
[06:22] <BluesKaj> southafrikanse, look in adept , to see if it's installed
[06:22] <neusonce>  i need to know how to install flash on 7.04
[06:22] <zero_> 4960 days without checking /dev/sda2 for errors
[06:22] <zero_> and it found errors at root partition
[06:22] <southafrikanse> BluesKaj: It's installed
[06:22] <pag> !sudo | eltese
[06:22] <ubotu> eltese: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:23] <GrahamA> zero_: I had longer when I installed it... apparently I hadn't checked my hard drive for 134 years...
[06:23] <BluesKaj> neusonce, installing the flash nonfree versions thru adept or synaptic, assures a global install (all apps requiring flash will work)
[06:23] <eltese> pag: yes I know :) I runned the command "sudo edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <eltese> but no luck
[06:23] <zero_> but i got errors and i am worried :(
[06:23] <pag> edit?  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list  should work
[06:23] <eltese> ok
[06:23] <eltese> thx :)
[06:24] <GrahamA> zero_: It fixed them
[06:24] <GrahamA> Just let it check and it fixes them automaticly.
[06:24] <zero_> idk if it did that :(
[06:24] <pag> southafrikanse, KDM is a login manager, iirc it has no shortcuts built in it
[06:25] <eltese> pag: get a error message saying that I kate cannot connect to the x server
[06:25] <southafrikanse> pag: The how can I access it. So I can costumize my desktop?
[06:25] <eltese> And I still get permission denied
[06:25] <eltese> :p
[06:25] <neusonce> macromedia  flash puglin cannot be installed on my computer type ?
[06:26] <pag> neusonce, what does uname -m return?
[06:26] <houmala> got it fixed..thanks
[06:26] <root__> Hi, I trying to install kubuntu fiesty on my dell E1505 laptop. However, when I start install, after selecting keyboard type, my keyboard doesn work. any help ?
[06:26] <Ace2016> eltese: are you trying to run kate as root? try kdesu kate from Alt+F2
[06:27] <eltese> Ace2016: ok
[06:27] <eltese> will try that
[06:27] <pag> southafrikanse, KDM doesn't customize your desktop... kdmtheme lets you customize your KDM and can be found in kcontrol... desktop can be customized in either kcontrol or SysSettings
[06:27] <neusonce> ok, i am a toaly newbie, i need to learn linux for blender and  studio apps, i  have no idea!
[06:28] <ardchoille> pag: iirc, he will have to install kdmtheme if he hasn't already, it doesn't ship with kubuntu
[06:28] <jhutchins> kdm is the login manager
[06:28] <pag> neusonce, open konsole, type " uname -m " and tell what does the command putput
[06:28] <neusonce> x86_64
[06:28] <pag> ardchoille, oh.. forgot that, thanks for clearing up :)
[06:28] <neusonce> sorry  late
[06:28] <pag> !flash64 | neusonce
[06:28] <ubotu> neusonce: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:29] <neusonce> ok dude
[06:29] <neusonce> thanks
[06:29] <mewshi> how do i get my keyboard's multimedia buttons to work?
[06:29] <eltese> got it working now. Thanks alot
[06:38] <Karti> right...time for some help.....can get 2.1 speaker but not 5.1 using my audigy sb card any ideas?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> Karti, did you check the kmix settings for multichannel , surround center and LFE ?
[06:41] <Karti> BluesKaj: they are there and I can move them with no difference to sound
[06:41] <rtwick> Hi I trying to install kubuntu on dell e1505 laptop. however after selecting keyboard type during install, keyboard gets messed up.
[06:41] <rtwick> any help ?
[06:41] <Karti> BluesKaj: even installed alsamixergui and still the same issues
[06:41] <southafrikanse> I have no sound :( Can someone help me?
[06:43] <Karti> southafrikanse:  try system settings > sound system > tick enable the sound system box
[06:43] <BluesKaj> okk Karti , check alsamixer in the terminal , to make sure they are setup right m kae sure you have no MM in the box cntrls , that means muted the boxes should all read '00' . Use the M key to unmute.
[06:43] <BluesKaj> M key
[06:43] <southafrikanse> Karti: It's already ticked
[06:44] <rtwick> ?
[06:44] <rtwick> Please can someone help me with my keyboard problem?
[06:46] <DjDarkman> where is the best place to report an adept_updater bug?
[06:46] <DjDarkman> I mean
[06:46] <DjDarkman> adept_notifier
[06:46] <pag> DjDarkman, launchpad?
[06:46] <vecchioGasometro> hey raga
[06:47] <vecchioGasometro> perch in kubuntu feisty non ci sono le qt 4.3 ma ci sono ancora le 4.2.3 ?
[06:47] <pag> DjDarkman, https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[06:47] <DjDarkman> ok just forgot my account
[06:47] <pag> !it | vecchioGasometro
[06:47] <ubotu> vecchioGasometro: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:49] <Karti> BluesKaj: I can move them all but and the only one I can set is the iec985. My sound is comming from the Analog f
[06:49] <neusonce> ok i  think its going to work guys,  well know soon  thanks so much
[06:49] <Karti> southafrikanse: sorry having some sound issues of my own :(
[06:51] <southafrikanse> Karti: No problem. I have to go to Windows now.
[06:51] <Karti> sorry not much help ;)
[06:52] <vecchioGasometro> oh
[06:52] <elite101> !windows
[06:52] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:52] <elite101> lmao
[06:53] <vecchioGasometro> pag: sorry I've joined the wrong channel!!!!
[06:53] <pag> vecchioGasometro, np :)
[06:53] <BluesKaj> Karti, go to the IEC 958 and set it to pcm
[06:54] <Karti> BluesKaj: sorry to be a pain, but could yo u explain that a bit more....kind of lost me
[06:55] <elite101> help i got an error downloading a package http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main linux-image2.6.15?
[06:55] <elite101> is that good?
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> hey
[06:56] <pag> elite101, depends what kind of error?
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i downloaded nvidia graphics card from adept
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and when loading the screen is black
[06:56] <elite101> it wont download the package it says in the progress box beside it in adept error
[06:56] <|Zero|H|I|T|> and i cant do anything
[06:57] <RichoHealey> |Zero|H|I|T|: hey ssup
[06:57] <pag> elite101, could you please run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade " in konsole
[06:58] <elite101> and i didnt download libxine-main 1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.7
[06:58] <elite101> it*
[06:58] <elite101> why? i am updating in adept ritenow
[06:58] <montoya> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep color
[06:59] <pag> elite101, ok.. But when the updates are done, you might want to try those, APT works usually better than a Adept
[06:59] <RichoHealey> a quick question about sudo; i type sudo, and then anything that i type on that line runs as root?
[06:59] <montoya> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep color -> what color???
[06:59] <dutch> how do I permanent install of kubuntu from the liveCD ?
[07:00] <sfire> dutch: click the install link on the desktop
[07:00] <dutch> it's not there :(
[07:01] <elite101> i had that prob b4
[07:01] <elite101> where it didnt show install i just restarted the computer
[07:01] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anybody that can help with the black screen?
[07:01] <strog_> hi guys
[07:01] <dutch> willing to try anything right now.. :(
[07:01] <dutch> thanks
[07:02] <strog_> i have a bluetooth stick and wanted to know how i can remote control my pc
[07:02] <strog_> how do i add that option
[07:02] <elite101> remote controll it from what device another pc?
[07:03] <elite101> or a handheld?
[07:03] <strog_> no cellphone
[07:03] <elite101> ohh not sure but i know how to do that with a psp lol
[07:03] <strog_> how is it done with handhelds?
[07:04] <elite101> u need to use VNC
[07:04] <neusonce> grrrrrr not working, but im tired and should go to bed  thank fo youre help guys  if i have issues tomorrow will talk again
[07:04] <elite101> krfb desktop sharing
[07:05] <strog_> krfb?
[07:05] <michael-3142> Hello all
[07:05] <elite101> yes its in interent tab on the Kmenu
[07:06] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anybody?
[07:06] <elite101> u make a network connection and the device running the VNC will connect to it alothou u mean with bluetooth i know nothing about that so this wont help u sorry
[07:07] <elite101> strog_, what do u want the cellphone to do exactly?
[07:07] <michael-3142> Are there any Kpilot users online today,  I am have some problems configuring mine with USB
[07:07] <elite101> controll the pc?
[07:07] <strog_> to control the mouse and if possible that i can use my cellphone as a remotecontrol for amarok
[07:08] <elite101> ookay u need to use remote desktop connection well im not sure on how bluetooth works its kinda like wireless? but i think the cellphone needs the same app? no..
[07:09] <strog_> let me check a minute
[07:09] <elite101> u might need to use Remote Desktop connection and make a VNC connection and then connect the cell to the VNC to computer VIA Bluetooth
[07:10] <elite101> if thats what u want? not sure almost the same princaple to the psp but u need a wireless card too hook up the psp and router but since its bluetooth i dont know how that works?
[07:11] <elite101> !krdc
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <strog_> elite101: i have a usb bluetooth and my cellphone has 1 also
[07:11] <elite101> !Krdc
[07:11] <strog_> but when i go to sdp://
[07:11] <strog_> i can see my cellphone and it's services
[07:11] <elite101> so does it have an app to controll the computer where did u hear this from?
[07:11] <elite101> okay
[07:12] <elite101> well u need to make a VNC connection to your computer online and then connect the phone to that network
[07:12] <strog_> but the problem is that i dont have the mouse control service installed
[07:13] <elite101> not sure how to make one on kubuntu? i know on windows thou i know a site with a tutorial
[07:13] <strog_> k
[07:14] <elite101> for what/
[07:14] <elite101> ?
[07:14] <elite101> on your cell phone?
[07:16] <elite101> strog_, here is a link that should make things a little clearer althou i will find one for kubuntu http://www.bluetoothshareware.com/bluetooth_remote_control.asp
[07:17] <|Zero|H|I|T|> anyone that can help with black screen after installing NVIDIA DRIVERS???
[07:17] <oellinux> hello people
[07:17] <oellinux> can someone give me a hand with streaming problems
[07:17] <elite101> strog_, what kind of phone are u using sony erricson? pda?
[07:18] <oellinux> |Zero|H|I|T|, what error do u get if u write "startx" from a console?
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i didnt enter console
[07:19] <oellinux> so do it
[07:19] <oellinux> ctrl - alt - f1
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i will do it but
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> when loading
[07:19] <|Zero|H|I|T|> i get a black screen and i can see what i type
[07:19] <elite101> ahh here u go strong this wil be alot better for you http://tuxmobil.org/bluetooth_cell_apps.html
[07:22] <Chanshe> hi alle
[07:22] <Chanshe> habe mal nee frage wegen wine
[07:22] <Chanshe> habe wine per adept installiert..
[07:22] <pag> !de | Chanshe
[07:22] <ubotu> Chanshe: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:22] <Chanshe> nur wie installiere ich nun anwendungen?
[07:22] <Chanshe> #ahh k danke
[07:24] <elite101> is kubuntu 7.04 only in DVD format? can u fit the installer on a normal cd?
[07:25] <sfire> elite101: I believe there is a CD version
[07:25] <sfire> 40mb for the net install cd (from what I've heard)
[07:25] <sfire> me personally I just "borrow" a dvd from a newer machine to install
[07:27] <elite101> sfire, why is it in DVD formatt? the cd version must not have livecd enabled on it then
[07:27] <elite101> because the installer is prob small and the livedvd is prob like 3gb or somethinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
[07:27] <elite101> sorry the button lagged
[07:28] <pag> elite101, http://mirror.gregstar.at/ubuntu/kubuntu/feisty/ <- CD-torrents (can also be downloaded directly, but always prefer torrent :)
[07:31] <Negonicrac> hey all
[07:31] <NickPresta> hey
[07:32] <araizen> hi all
[07:32] <araizen> can anyone tell me how i can set things up so i can switch keyboard layouts with a keyboard shortcut?
[07:34] <sep1318> araizen: k menu>system settings>regional&language
[07:34] <araizen> sep1318: yes i am aware of that
[07:34] <araizen> but i don't see what i can set in there
[07:35] <sep1318> araizen: do you see the keyboard layout tab on the side?
[07:35] <araizen> you mean on the task bar?
[07:35] <araizen> yes
[07:36] <sep1318> araizen: it should have three tabs: layout, sitching options, xkb options.
[07:36] <araizen> sep1318: yes, i have that
[07:37] <sep1318> just making sure we're in the same place :)
[07:38] <sep1318> araizen: what's your switching policy set to under switching options?
[07:38] <araizen> global
[07:38] <sep1318> and you have multiple layouts available, right?
[07:39] <araizen> yes
[07:39] <araizen> i have multiple layouts and they work fine
[07:39] <sep1318> under active layouts in the layout tab?
[07:39] <araizen> but i have to cluck on the flag to change
[07:39] <araizen> and i want to use a keyboard shortcut
[07:39] <araizen> yes, under active layouts there are two layouts
[07:39] <sep1318> ttry ctrl+alt_k
[07:39] <sep1318> try*
[07:40] <sep1318> ok.
[07:40] <araizen> what is alt_k?
[07:40] <araizen> alt+k?
[07:40] <sep1318> ctrl+alt+k is the default,
[07:40] <sep1318> yeah
[07:40] <sep1318> me and my typos :-\
[07:41] <araizen> no that doesn't do anything
[07:41] <araizen> but i've done this before, i remember, in kde
[07:41] <draik> Here is my empty victory - I installed winxp in Kubuntu
[07:41] <draik> Is there a way to change the HDD space to the VMware Workstation?
[07:41] <araizen> and my shortcut has to be something like ctl+alt+1, because one of my layouts is not a latin alphabet
[07:41] <michael-3142> Is there anyone that can assist me in getting kpilot working?
[07:42] <sep1318> hmmm.... araizen, i'm honestly stumped, cuz the default worked for me. but then again, im switching between english and dvorak.
[07:43] <araizen> there's a place you can change all those keyboard shortcuts, no?
[07:43] <araizen> do you know where it?
[07:44] <ardchoille> araizen: kcontrol Region & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:44] <sep1318> araizen: good suggestion. lemme find it for a sec :)
[07:45] <sep1318> araizen: actually, it's under keyboard & mouse
[07:45] <ardchoille> sep1318: keyboard & mouse? where is that?
[07:45] <sep1318> araizen: should be an option at the bottom for keyboard layout switching
[07:47] <araizen> there's no such option under switching options in regional & language
[07:47] <robin> whats new
[07:47] <sep1318> ardchoille: in system settings/kcontrol main menu. computer administration heading.
[07:47] <sep1318> araizen: right. you have to go back out to the overview and go in through keyboard and mouse
[07:48] <sep1318> ardchoille: i just realized that things are a bit reorganized depending on whether your in system settings or the settings menu or w/e.
[07:48] <sep1318> araizen: you see it?
[07:49] <araizen> sep1318: yes i've got it
[07:49] <araizen> i set it to ctrl+1 and it's working
[07:49] <araizen> thanks a lot
[07:49] <ardchoille> sep1318: Yes, I noticed that too. I don't use system settings due to kcontrol being better and I'm used to it.
[07:49] <robin> I have a new hp computer, nvidia chipset and 8800gts, when I tried to start up kubuntu off the cd the monitor goes black, any idea's? I tried the safe video mode to still no go
[07:49] <sep1318> araizen: sweet
[07:50] <sep1318> ardchoille: i'm on board with you on that one.
[07:51] <intelikey> and then there were 356
[07:52] <robin> must not be a work around if no one answer, maybe they will correct this in next kubuntu release and i can use it then thx anyway
[07:52] <intelikey> robin what issue ?
[07:52] <robin>  I have a new hp computer, nvidia chipset and 8800gts, when I tried to start up kubuntu off the cd the monitor goes black, any idea's? I tried the safe video mode to still no go
[07:53] <Biovore> robin: try the alternate install cd
[07:53] <dr_willis> Looking at the HP L7680 for my next printer. ANyone have any experience with it and Linux?
[07:53] <intelikey> could reconfig xorg to use vesa
  whats differant on alternate cd?
[07:54] <intelikey> text mode installer
[07:54] <Biovore> robin: you can do a text mode install then fix it later..
[07:54] <dr_willis> and a few options it lets you set
[07:54] <intelikey> can even do a server install     i think
[07:54] <robin> will i still have a gui or just command line
[07:54] <Biovore> yup
[07:54] <intelikey> isn't that on the alternate
[07:55] <Biovore> robin: well if you install and it can't get the graphics to work at start, you probably be in a command line interface for a bit.
[07:55] <robin> is there a 64 byte alternate cd?
[07:55] <Biovore> yes
[07:55] <robin> k will try that
[07:56] <intelikey> robin i would try reconfiguring the liveCD for vesa and see if that works.  then at least you know you can get a gui working.
[07:56] <robin> so you think its my 8800gts that is the issue with the screen going black?
[07:56] <dr_willis> Theres no real reason to use the 64bit disrto
[07:56] <dr_willis> 8800 does need the newest nvidia drivers I hear on some setups.
[07:56] <dr_willis> those are not in the repos yet.
[07:56] <StErGi0s> hello.im clicking on vpn connections from KnetworkManager but nothing opens..what should i do?
[07:57] <lontra> anyone know how i would edit kmilo to work properly with my multimedia keys?
[07:57] <intelikey> robin i think that the nv driver is too old to work correctly with that card robin yes
[07:57] <robin> so the next kunbutu release should work ok you guys think?
[07:58] <dr_willis> this one CAN work.. if you install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site. (i hear)
[07:58] <Biovore> well its still beta atm.. (not recommended)
[07:58] <dr_willis> i bet the ubuntu forums mention this
[07:58] <dr_willis> may be some unofficial repos/sites with thepackages also.
[07:58] <intelikey> i bet
[07:58] <Biovore> yeah.. the 8800gtx needs the lastest drivers from nvidia..
[07:58] <intelikey> you bet
[07:58] <robin> so its a known issue with 8800?
[07:58] <Biovore> but they do work..
[07:59] <Biovore> well nvidia lagged behind with the support for it..
[07:59] <StErGi0s> im clicking on vpn connections from KnetworkManager but nothing opens..what should i do?
[07:59] <Biovore> The graphical installer uses an opensource driver some guy made to get video, but I think that one break on the newer nvidia cards.
[08:00] <Biovore> StErGi0s: you openVPN running?
[08:00] <Biovore> (have()
[08:00] <StErGi0s> Biovore: i dont think so..
[08:00] <robin> ok I wil ltry the work arounds you guys talked about later today thx
[08:00] <intelikey> monkey C
[08:00] <StErGi0s> not sure though
[08:00] <dr_willis> you can force the graphical installer to use the vesa driver some how. i recall..
[08:00] <dr_willis> but never done it.
[08:01] <StErGi0s> no...its not on running processes
[08:02] <robin> later thanks again
[08:02] <michael-3142> I can not locate /dev/ttyusb in kubuntu.  do they use something else?
[08:02] <elite101> does nvidia support linux?
[08:03] <intelikey> michael-3142 prolly    and they use  udev which only makes the device nodes that you "access"
[08:03] <intelikey> elite101 yes and no.
[08:03] <intelikey> they offer drivers   but that don't open source
[08:03] <StErGi0s> i need to make a vpn connection anyone can help?vpn connections does not work for some reason