[01:44] <NeanT> anybody experienced problems with bootsplash in Gutsy x64 ? my monitor goes in standby between GRUB selection and Login screen..
[01:44] <K3nt> when i go to my other desktop, ubuntu freezes
[01:44] <edubuntu> check the fourth terminal
[01:44] <DerDritte> kibble: I don't think it's got anything to do with compiz or such...
[01:44] <viator> i file a bug
[01:44] <edubuntu> ctrl+alt F4
[01:44] <rtan> kibble : i got gusty cd rom but i wonder the dvd iso is available
[01:44] <viator> they say its a KNOWN bug
[01:44] <kibble> DerDritte: I never mentioned compiz
[01:44] <viator> but i sat its a REGRESSION after dapper
[01:44] <eugo> hey when copying files with scp, some special characters like í show up weird after transfer. they are fine on the host computer (ubuntu gutsy)
[01:44] <bluebanana> My upgrade windows says "Running Partial Upgrade". After this "partial upgrade" is over, can I upgrade everything else that wasn't upgraded? Thank you!
[01:44] <DerDritte> kibble: "or such"...
[01:45] <oam_> carlFL : /proc/driver/nvidia/version does not currently exist ... i should have said before , that to get X to load i had to manually switch back to the "nv" driver
[01:45] <kibble> rtan: probably. haven't looked, if it's not something they advertise on the front page might not be ready
[01:45] <phaedra> rtan, Yes, There's a torrent for it.
[01:45] <JensenDied> so, compiz seems to be eating part of my screen...
[01:45] <kibble> oh guess I should look before I speak
[01:45] <kibble> JensenDied: how so?
[01:45] <oam_> should i change back, and reboot to check the driver version , then reboot again to report back ??
[01:45] <kibble> or maybe he should have looked before he asked :)
[01:45] <rtan> phaedra: any link  ? ftp?
[01:46] <viator> thinks ..............screen must be tasty
[01:46] <phaedra> rtan, It's on linuxtracker.org
[01:46] <kibble> rtan: torrent would be prefered, a lot of people grabbing the ftp now, torrent would be much faster
[01:46] <JensenDied> kibble: well, my screen size that is started with X is a bit smaller than i like, so i have xrandr resize it, however everything not in that initial size doesnt display, background, menubar etc... since the update
[01:46] <kibble> a friend of mine got it last night via http, took him 6 hours
[01:46] <Flanger> So, I've just installed Gutsy... I don't know if there's anyone of the Ubuntu/Canonical team now online, but Gratz to everyone that made this release possible... thanks all!
[01:46] <packetgod> Cool thing about the torrent is the more people grabbing it the faster it goes
[01:47] <kibble> JensenDied: so they aren't on the screen at all?
[01:47] <dxdt> How do I increase the number of desktops from 2 to 4?
[01:47] <B_166-ER-X> I just installed Gutsy, i want to know how to make my other Hd (on windows) automatically shop up on the desktop on startup ?  also, if i can give it a name other than 'Disk' 'Disk-1' ect.. ?   please
[01:47] <itnomad> can one upgrade from the live cd? or, must it be a clean install?
[01:47] <eugo> i have a windows partition with some special characters (like "týr") which show up fine in gutsy, but when copying with scp, the filenames end up funny
[01:47] <bluebanana> Why does my ugrade window say "Running PARTIAL upgrade"??? How can I make the upgrade a FULL one?
[01:47] <kibble> itnomad: do you have ubuntu installed now? what version
[01:47] <sampson> gaah
[01:48] <itnomad> kibble: I have feisty
[01:48] <JensenDied> kibble: its probably due to some of the missing compiz-fusion stuff in the default im gonna try a few more things first, just kinda wierd
[01:48] <sampson> why the fuck won't my beta upgrade to final
[01:48] <kibble> bluebanana: there was a problem upgrading everything at once. it has to upgrade a bit at a time
[01:48] <rtan> phaedra: found the torrent for 7.1 DVD, its 4.23GB . Thanks
[01:48] <RadicalDreamer> Hello.
[01:48] <bluebanana> kibble: is this normal?
[01:48] <smallfoot-> I installed Gutsy Gibbon today, and it did not detect my computer monitor, I had to browse a list, and select it. Also, I cant change refresh rate, to more than 50-55 Hz on 1280x1024, even though my monitor runs 85hz in Windows
[01:48] <itnomad> got the bittorrent live CD this afternoon
[01:48] <phaedra> rtan, Okay....  :)
[01:48] <Seeker`> sampson: watch your language please
[01:48] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to config the 'compiz' desktop ? like in Beryl ?
[01:48] <Megaqwerty> tracker has been taking 100% CPU for the past few days...any idea why? Or...how I could check it's status, like you can with beagle?
[01:48] <itnomad> but I don't see the option to upgrade when booting the CD
[01:48] <RadicalDreamer> I have a problem. MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[01:48] <bluebanana> kibble: i think i'ts because i closed the upgrade window.
[01:49] <kibble> JensenDied: I have a 950 gma or something and run at 1280x800, X new it was bigger then 1024x768 but for some reason wasn't telling gnome, I was hoping that;s what you meant because I solved that
[01:49] <RadicalDreamer> My computer is an Acer Aspire 1605LC, a laptop.
[01:49] <eugo> nobody knows why special characters mess up in filenames after scp transfer?
[01:49] <kibble> bluebanana: wouldn't be the first time I've done that
[01:49] <PokoTao> sampson: are you still on?
[01:49] <RadicalDreamer> Any ideas?
[01:49] <phaedra> RadicalDreamer, I have the same problem, Just add noapic to the boot parameters.
[01:49] <Flats> Anyone feel like taking a shot helping me figure out my intel wireless 3945ABG adapter? It shows in sudo lshw -C network but no drivers at all. Liek the software doesn't see it
[01:49] <dmandell> B_155-ER-x "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[01:49] <unstable> What can I use to test my webcam that comes with Gutsy by default?
[01:49] <darkzero> Hey all
[01:49] <flick> how can i change the alt-tab interface to show smaller icons?
[01:50] <JensenDied> kibble: well thats not what i meant to be talking about, but while were there, how did you solve that since that something else ive been putting off fixing?
[01:50] <kevinO> hello I have an unformatted partion that is not being used, how can i utilize this partition in ubuntu
[01:50] <RadicalDreamer> Okay. Thank you.
[01:50] <darkzero> Does anyone here know anything about mplayer?
[01:50] <nibsa1242b> Flats: good luck, I am told most intel adapters have good support.
[01:50] <nunofgs> can anyone help me out with netatalk? I installed it but when I try to connect the server, it asks me for my user/pass and then says there was an unexpected error
[01:50] <RobotBanana> Does anyone know how you can specify to use a static IP on one wireless network while still keeping roaming mode on?
[01:50] <phaedra> RadicalDreamer, You might have to add nolapic also...
[01:50] <kibble> JensenDied: I assume an intel video then? yeah I found a web site that had the fix, lemme find it
[01:50] <Flats> thats what they tell me but I've been trying for two days with no luck
[01:50] <Megaqwerty> Tracker has been taking 100% CPU for the past few days...any idea why? Or...how I could check it's status, like you can with beagle?
[01:50] <Flats> worked in 7.04 but dead in 7.1
[01:51] <moDumass> ok, no ktorrent people, man, why forth art ktorrent doing this to me... whyyyyy whyyyyyyyy?
[01:51] <JensenDied> kibble: well this is an nvidia card on this machine, but its probably a similar issue
[01:51] <nibsa1242b> RobotBanana: I think if you have control of the DHCP server on the wireless network, you can set it so that it always assigns a particular client the same IP.
[01:51] <Cryoniq> Why is it that graphics totaly pecks up when I install xserver-glx when using the ATI/AMD drivers fglrx with my ATI9800 Pro?
[01:51] <dmandell> Is anybody here familiar with the Compiz Window Switcher settings?
[01:51] <eugo> darkzero: all i know i learned through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mplayer
[01:51] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: depends, what do you want to do?
[01:51] <arjones85> i have an interesting issue hopefully somebody can help me with. for some reason the mouse pointer is grey when I choose "clearglass" under appearance settings on laptop A, but white when I choose "clearglass" on laptop B
[01:51] <RobotBanana> nibsa1242b: But is it possible to do that within Ubuntu? I'm pretty sure you can do it. Hell, my iPod touch can do it...
[01:51] <arjones85> how the heck do I make it white like it is on laptop B
[01:51] <Fasma> what?? I can't play mp3 in Ubuntu 7.10? There must be some mistake - and I'm a newbie... but I can't play either mp3 on my pc or mp3 streams! any solutions?
[01:51] <darkzero> thx
[01:51] <bluebanana> kibble: so how do i make the PARTIAL upgrade a COMPLETE one later on?
[01:52] <dmandell> Megaqwerty: I don't want it to bring the window to the front when I'm switching between windows
[01:52] <RobotBanana> nibsa1242b: I just want it to remember settings for a certain network.
[01:52] <aro> Fasma, mp3 format is not free, therefore it cannot be packaged in the default install, you have to install mp3 support after
[01:52] <Cryoniq> Right now I got it working fine after uninstalled the amd package and the ati package, then the propriatary driver started working very nice.. but cannot still (!) start compiz etc.
[01:52] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: using Alt+Tab?
[01:52] <dmandell> Megaqwerty: In the Application Switcher settings I unchecked "Bring to front", but that doesn't seem to do anything.
[01:52] <kibble> bluebanana: just run it again, usually when I see that and I haven't closed the upgrade window it's because you need to reboot or something before it can complete the file upgrade
[01:52] <dmandell> Megaqwerty: that's right.
[01:52] <otzi48>  8-)
[01:52] <nibsa1242b> RobotBanana: I imagine you can, either with config files or scripts. But I wouldn't know how. I would figure the simplest way would be through the DHCP server if you have access.
[01:52] <Cryoniq> sorry under Gutsy..
[01:52] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: I'll check it out.
[01:53] <RobotBanana> Hmm... Alright, thanks nibsa1242b.
You know why when I play a ogn video file, it show it big on my monitor?
[01:53] <kibble> bluebanana: well not reboot, but sometimes like upgrading dpkg before you can install some new ones, it doesn't do it all at once it will do a partial
[01:53] <Mulder> is setting up fglrx on ubuntu 7.10 with compiz still messy ? or is it point clicky click
[01:53] <dmandell> Megaqwerty:  Thanks, I just updated from Feisty to Gutsy today and it's driving me a bit batty.
[01:53] <Fasma> aro: do you know an easy way to install mp3 support for a live-cd run of Ubuntu 7.10?
[01:53] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: on most ATI hardware you have to install xgl-server to get compiz to work. Esp. if yo use the proprietray driver.
[01:53] <arjones85> i have an interesting issue hopefully somebody can help me with. for some reason the mouse pointer is grey when I choose "clearglass" under appearance settings on laptop A, but white when I choose "clearglass" on laptop B. How do I change the mouse pointer color to be white?
[01:54] <eugo> darkzero i dunno, try vlc media player
[01:54] <kibble> JensenDied: give this a shot http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.10_(Gutsy_Gibbon)_Tribe_on_a_ThinkPad_R61
[01:54] <numus> if i am in terminal on the live cd
[01:54] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: works fine here, windows stay where they are until I release Alt+Tab
[01:54] <numus> how do i go to my main ubuntu so i can change my xorg file
[01:54] <locellcount> anyone know how to get quicktime working on 64bit gutsy?
[01:54] <JensenDied> kibble: thanks for finding that
[01:54] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: since I can't reproduce the problem, I'm sorry...I can't really help :(
[01:54] <Flats> Anyone feel like taking a shot helping me figure out my intel wireless 3945ABG adapter? It shows in sudo lshw -C network but no drivers at all. Liek the software doesn't see it
[01:55] <aro> Fasma, I don't know if you can install applications on LiveCD, I've never tried sorry
[01:55] <dmandell> Megaqwerty:  Maybe I'm misunderstanding the way it's supposed to behave?
[01:55] <RobotBanana> Also, does anyone know what to do to stop the scroll pad on a laptop from switching between desktops? I can't find the setting... :|
[01:55] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: possibly, what do you expect it to do?
[01:55] <Dyus> numus: u just have to mount the drive with your ubuntu install
[01:55] <garu_> how do I install libdvdcss in gutsy?I'm trying to play a DVD, totem-xine is asking me that "r u trying to play a copy protected dvd whithout libdvdcss?"!lol
[01:55] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty:  My expectation is when I hit alt+tab everything goes dark and the switcher pops up (with three icons)
[01:55] <nibsa1242b> Mulder: on both my desktop and laptop fglrx install was seamless point & click
[01:55] <Fasma> aro, no problem thank you very much for your help, I restarted that rhythmbox app that's bundled with U and it now plays music
[01:55] <Lifeisfunny> How do I stop the way the windows open on the desktop?
[01:55] <bluebanana> numus: u on gutsy?
[01:55] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty: as I cycle through I don't want the windows popping up behind the switcher.
[01:55] <Dyus> then u can get to it with gedit or nautilus
[01:55] <diafic> sleep tiem nao. nini
[01:56] <packetgod> garu I actually recommend automatix but others say its bad news.  I think the new ersion works well
[01:56] <mrunagi> lol im having a hard time upgrading
[01:56] <JensenDied> kibble: well i just finised installing the compiz-kde package, seems to have had stuff not included in the base meta package i needed, still checking out the article though
[01:56] <Davy_Jones> if i install ubuntu gutsy on a new partition it would overwrite the grub of the previous ubuntu... right?
[01:56] <numus> bluebanana i screwed up my xorg.conf so i am trying to reload from a backup
[01:56] <bluebanana> Lifeisfunny: what do you mean?
[01:56] <nalioth> packetgod: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:56] <m0n0set> what command to disconnect from vpn in terminall with client side?
[01:56] <bluebanana> numus: u on gutsy or on feisty?
[01:56] <m0n0set> openvpn
[01:56] <numus> bluebanana gutsy
[01:56] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: so...you want the windows to all disappear, or just not bring to front the one you currently have selected?
[01:56] <Lifeisfunny> bluebanana, the zoom effect is driving me batty
[01:56] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty: What I'm seeing is as I switch from one program to the next (while continuing to hold down alt) the program that I've select pops up in the background.
[01:56] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: and when I do... then my gnome is super slow suddenly.. windows update visibly, distortions and leftovers of windows after moved them.. and.. compiz refuse to work anyway with message..
[01:56] <VousDeux> locellcount: I think we are still waiting for medibuntu on that one
[01:56] <garu_> packetgod automatix?uuuuuhhhhh...i'v got a bad past with that app :o
[01:56] <bluebanana> i thought there was no reason to tinker with xorg.conf with gutsy
[01:56] <LjL> !automatix | packetgod, garu_
[01:56] <bluebanana> Lifeisfunny:  you want the regular effect?
[01:56] <ubotu> packetgod, garu_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:57] <DerDritte> Cleaning the cache didn't help firefox from freezing...
[01:57] <kibble> JensenDied: it lists a bunch of other stuff, but the part about the screen bug fixed is the section I was pointing at
[01:57] <Mulder> nibsa1242b, that's cool, but what about the interaction with compiz?
[01:57] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: then yes, you are describing what should happen when "Brint to Front" is unchecked
[01:57] <c0stner> anyone has experience with Xgl at ati Xpress 1150 on feisty ?
[01:57] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: and when I remove xserver-glx and restart.. it is fine again...
[01:57] <locellcount> VousDeux: Bugger, it's my last file format to get done...
[01:57] <TheRepacker> !libdvdcss | garu_
[01:57] <ubotu> garu_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:57] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty: either, or.  To me it's distracting to have the windows rotating in the background.
[01:57] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: and on my box, it does just that :-\
[01:57] <numus> bluebanana i have a pny verto fx 5500 video card.. and it wont let me run nvidia drivers.. keeps running veso
[01:57] <Lifeisfunny> bluebanana, is that the only other offered?
[01:57] <numus> err vesa
[01:57] <garu_> LjL it messes up the system
[01:57] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty:  Shoot.  What type of graphics card do you have?
[01:57] <oam_> this is the Nvidia driver version that is causing me problems ......  oam@oam-desktop:~$ cat /root/nvidia.version
[01:57] <oam_> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  100.14.19  Wed Sep 12 14:12:24 PDT 2007
[01:57] <oam_> GCC version:  gcc version 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)
[01:57] <kevinO> hello i just used gparted to create an extended partition on un allocated space, it still says unallocated, what do I do?
[01:57] <garu_> TheRepacker it messes up the system
[01:57] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: nVIDIA
[01:57] <VousDeux> locellcount: I'm not 100% certain though
[01:57] <Flats> Ok does anyone have an intel wireless 3945ASBG adapter that is working in Gutsy?
[01:57] <bluebanana> I ran the Distributoin upgrade. Now what? Must I reboot?
[01:57] <Tortured> im trying to connect to a samba share on another computer and i get a prompt for username/password and domain? i dont know what the domain is but ive tried a user on both machines' name and password and it never works?
[01:57] <bluebanana> Things look the same!
[01:57] <Flats> sorry ABG
[01:57] <garu_> my question is, why is that I can't install it in the terminal? :s
[01:57] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty:  Maybe it's an intel thing.
[01:57] <oam_> basicly if i load that driver i get a blank screen after X starts to load.
[01:58] <oam_> but if i use the "nv" driver , everything works fine .
[01:58] <redrumloa> Hello
[01:58] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty:  Ah well, thanks for looking into it for me.
[01:58] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: not all ati cards work well with xgl, but until we get the new ATI driver that is supposed to be coming out real soon now it is our only option.
[01:58] <oam_> any thoughts ???
[01:58] <Mulder> i cant wait til the new fglrx rolls out aiglx support
[01:58] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: it seems to me that the repository xserver-glx does not play well with fglrx prop ati driver..
[01:58] <Flats> Now I'm making up my own protocols
[01:58] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: possible, but unlikely, I'd ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:58] <kibble> bluebanana: if you're using gnome there will be a restart icon in your system tray, otherwise nope
[01:58] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty: Thanks for the advice, I will.
[01:58] <kevinO> hello i just used gparted to create an extended partition on un allocated space, it still says unallocated, what do I do?
[01:58] <dmandell>  Megaqwerty:  Thanks again and good night.
[01:58] <bluebanana> kibble: i' m using gnome, but there's no restart icon!!! am i in trouble?
[01:58] <Megaqwerty> dmandell: good luck
[01:58] <kibble> bluebanana: however you've probably upgraded your kernel so it couldn't hurt
[01:58] <bluebanana> see you all soon
[01:58] <redrumloa> Question: Is there known problems with Nvidia cards in Gutsy?
[01:58] <c0stner> everytime i start my Glx server my feisty is stuck
[01:58] <adriyel> CRAP
[01:58] <kibble> bluebanana: just because it's not there doesn't mean anything really
[01:59] <adriyel> is there an arabic ubuntu?
[01:59] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: or the other way around.. fglrx doesnt play well with xserver-glx :)
[01:59] <unstable> What software can I use to test my webcam? Something that comes with Gutsy by default?
[01:59] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: I see.. hmm
[01:59] <VousDeux> locellcount: have you tried libquicktime1?
[01:59] <mrunagi> whoa lag
[01:59] <Megaqwerty> redrumloa: I haven't experienced any. I'm not sure about the black window bug though...give me a sec to test that theory
[01:59] <kevinO> unstable, just search for webcam in synaptic
[01:59] <oam_> unstable : xsane should be able to display from the webcam i think
[01:59] <mrunagi> black window sounds like a compiz problem
[01:59] <c0stner> is my ati xpress 1150 not compatible with xserver glx
[01:59] <arjones85> i have an interesting issue hopefully somebody can help me with. for some reason the mouse pointer is grey when I choose "clearglass" under appearance settings on laptop A, but white when I choose "clearglass" on laptop B. How do I change the mouse pointer color to be white?
[01:59] <adriyel> arabic ubuntu?
[01:59] <kibble> unstable: any idea what kind it is? or if it's detected? is in internal to the machine or USB?
[01:59] <mrunagi> join #compiz-fusion and type !nv
[01:59] <adriyel> is there an arabic ubuntu channel?
[02:00] <LjL> adriyel: yes
[02:00] <kevinO> i just used gparted to create an extended partition on un allocated space, it still says unallocated, what do I do?
[02:00] <adriyel> LjL channel?
[02:00] <unstable> kibble: It works with this luvcview software I got online
[02:00] <eythian> I need to fix a machine by mounting the drives from the live CD to do stuff - however, some of the partitions are on LVM. Anyone know how to make the live CD work with them?
[02:00] <LjL> !sa | adriyel
[02:00] <ubotu> adriyel: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[02:00] <robotphood> When I hit "QUIT" it takes about 45 seconds for the menu to appear. Anyone know how to fix this?
[02:00] <nibsa1242b> Mulder: I had to install xgl-server to get compiz to work after installing fglrx... but it worked fine and my laptop with an ATI 200M chipset runs most of the compiz effects quite nicely. It does cause about a 10 degree Celsius temp rise in the processor when I'm doing anything that requires Compiz so its probably not battery life efficient
[02:00] <adriyel> ahhhh, shanks!
[02:00] <Cryoniq> c0stner: I experience heavy problems when I install xserver-glx as well along with my ati9800pro..
[02:00] <kevinO> webcam-server is cool
[02:00] <Mulder> nibsa1242b, ah fair enough
[02:00] <kevinO> does anyone know anything about gparted?
[02:00] <ubuntu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:00] <ubuntu> nooo
[02:00] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: where did you get your ati drivers from? ati website or ubuntu repo?
[02:00] <TheRepacker> redrumloa, there is with 7XXX cards and multi-core CPUs and the SMP kernel
[02:00] <ubuntu> why i can';yt update to gutsy
[02:01] <Megaqwerty> redrumloa: nope, black windows bug is gone.
[02:01] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: repro
[02:01] <Sitting_Duck> How do you change the top / bottom color of the cube in compiz? I've tried editing apps/compiz/plugins/cube/screen0/options/color in gconf, but no luck.
[02:01] <ubuntu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:01] <ubuntu> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:01] <garu_> when I try to install libdvdcss2 i get this error "E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate".can someone help?
[02:01] <Flats> What does it mean you may need to install the ieee80211 sources into your •kernel• and then build it as part of your •kernel• image
[02:01] <oam_> any thoughts on why nVidia driver 100.14.19 is breaking my Xorg ??
[02:01] <m0n0set> what command to disconnect from openvpn in bash from client side?
[02:01] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: isn't the 9800 pro supported by the open source driver? *goes to check*
[02:01] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: I removed all drivers with ati etc. and then when I checked the restricted it took down the fglrx from repro
[02:01] <garu_> Cryoniq did u get compiz fusion to work?
[02:01] <Dr_willis_> !dvd
[02:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:01] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: it is, I used that one in fesity and it worked along with DRI, but that one doesn't work either now in gutsy
[02:02] <mrunagi> garu_: go to a terminal and type sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[02:02] <Cryoniq> garu_: nope.. =(
[02:02] <Tortured> im trying to connect to a samba share on another computer and i get a prompt for username/password and domain? i dont know what the domain is but ive tried a user on both machines' name and password and it never works?
[02:02] <garu_> Dr_willis_ thanks!
[02:02] <kibble> ubuntu had the same until I let the dpkg upgrade happen
[02:02] <kevinO> does anyone here know anything about gparted?
[02:02] <Megaqwerty> kevinO: yep
[02:02] <kibble> ubuntu what package does it fail on?
[02:02] <ubuntu> kibble can i pm to private
[02:02] <Cryoniq> garu_: whenever I install xserver-glx the problems start.. and compiz still wont start
[02:02] <mrunagi> ::shrug::
[02:02] <oam_> kevin0 : a little , i use the LiveCd every now and hten
[02:02] <ubuntu> on 20 package fail
[02:02] <garu_> mrunagi thanks I'll do that
[02:02] <kevinO> Megaqwerty: i just used gparted to create an extended partition on un allocated space, it still says unallocated, what do I do?
[02:02] <ubuntu> kibble on 20 packages
[02:03] <garu_> Cryoniq with ur system up-to-date?
[02:03] <mrunagi> np
[02:03] <ubuntu> kibble: on 20 packages
[02:03] <Megaqwerty> kevinO: did you click apply?
[02:03] <kibble> what idiot thought ctrl-w to close the window was a good idea
[02:03] <kevinO> Megaqwerty:  yep
[02:03] <kibble> ubuntu go ahead and pm me
[02:03] <Cryoniq> garu_: update manager doesnt have anything more to update.. yes
[02:03] <eythian> anyone know about mounting LVM partitions in the live CD?
[02:03] <mrunagi> i cat seem to upgrade to gutsy lol
[02:03] <mrunagi> everythings against me
[02:03] <ubuntu> kibble do you receive it
[02:03] <Surb> i'm trying to install 7.10 on a machine sitting next to me, and i get the error "Kernel panic - not syncing: HOST_MSG_LOOP with invalid SCB ff". any ideas?
[02:03] <Megaqwerty> kevinO: hmm...well, that's the extent of my gparted knowledge...sorry. I've never had that problem before :-\
[02:03] <Lifeisfunny> How do I stop the way the zoom effect on the windows when they open on the desktop?  I want to have them just fade and have everything to open in the center of the screen.
[02:04] <kevinO> lol
[02:04] <kibble> ubuntu nope
[02:04] <kevinO> ok
[02:04] <kevinO> hello i just used gparted to create an extended partition on un allocated space, it still says unallocated, what do I do?
[02:04] <ubuntu> kibble join #kibble
[02:04] <c0stner> kevinO whats your video card ?
[02:04] <garu_> mrunagi do I have to restart after doing that command?
[02:04] <ebirtaid> yes
[02:04] <mrunagi> shouldnt
[02:04] <ebirtaid> YES
[02:04] <ebirtaid> NO
[02:04] <ebirtaid> also
[02:04] <kevinO> what does my video card have to do with gparted?
[02:04] <garu_> Cryoniq that's odd...alot of people today got it working just by doing that :o!
[02:04] <joely_> anyone know about sound for a toshiba satellite a135?
[02:05] <Jstn> Is there a way to downgrade back to feisty?
[02:05] <Cryoniq> with the fglrx restricted installed now.. I get the composite extension is not available.. if I have glx installed and get major problems.. it says it doesnt have composite extension either.
[02:05] <hydrogen> kevinO: you need to create partitions in the extended partition if I recall correctly
[02:05] <ebirtaid> fn'kevinO: nothing
[02:05] <hydrogen> Jstn: no
[02:05] <garu_> joely_ no sound?or is it too low?
[02:05] <Arenlor> Cryoniq do you have xserver-xgl installed?
[02:05] <FLSimpsonKPT> how can i get Compiz Fusion working with an ATI Graphics card and Gutsy?
[02:05] <Cryoniq> garu_: if I try doing glrxinfo.. gnome blacks out on me and restart
[02:06] <garu_> Cryoniq humn...no idea why ur getting that prob :o
[02:06] <joely_> no sound at all.
[02:06] <VousDeux> I know gnome users don't like to look like windows, but I purposely dressed mine up to look as much like vista as possible because I am going to have to use it in a presentation and I don't want to have to deal with people saying they like the looks of vista better
[02:06] <kevinO> hydrogen so i create a logical partition in the extended? or should I just create a primary to begin with
[02:06] <Cryoniq> Arenlor: I had but it cripples the graphics at once and compiz wont start anyway telling me missing composite..
[02:06] <hydrogen> kevinO: you would create a logical partition in the extended.. .I think
[02:06] <Jstn> I'm having issues with gtk related software
[02:06] <hydrogen> I havn't used extended partitions in a while though
[02:06] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I recommend you try to get support for the open source driver as it used to work for you. At least if there is a bug in the open source driver, someone can fix it.
[02:06] <hydrogen> so you may want to get a second opinion
[02:06] <kevinO> can i just create a primary?
[02:07] <garu_> VousDeux there is no way people can like vista look better...
[02:07] <ckin2001> is this gutsy support now?
[02:07] <Kelley> Hey, can somebody help me with a quick question about cloning a drive please?
[02:07] <kevinO> yes ckin2001
[02:07] <VousDeux> garu_: get serious
[02:07] <garu_> VousDeux u dont even have to customise ubuntu that much...u can't even compare vista looks with Mac OS X
[02:07] <garu_> lol
[02:07] <Arenlor> Cryoniq xserver-xgl I believe is required, it was for me, don't start an xgl session only start GNOME (the login window option)
[02:07] <garu_> VousDeux i am :o
[02:07] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: already tried that.. doesn't work either. as soon xserver-glx enters.. it is screwed
[02:07] <hydrogen> kevinO: you can only have a total of four partitions.. so if you have three or less now then you can create a primary
[02:07] <racarter> what is a good irc client for linux?
[02:08] <VousDeux> garu_: the vista look is very popular
[02:08] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: what is your question?
[02:08] <racarter> is xchat popular?
[02:08] <^^wizard^^> Question: Just installed 7.10 64 Bit in a Dual Boot with XP 32 Bit and a Fat 32 Partition. Two problems I can't enable my restricted drivers and firefoxes freeses my system ever time I load it. any suggestions?
[02:08] <kibble> racarter: xchat is popular
[02:08] <Kelley> I am trying to clone my Windows Partition into a Partition onto an External USB Hdd
[02:08] <ebirtaid> xchat sucks
[02:08] <zakman> is aiglx still used? and is it better then normal ubuntu + compiz ?
[02:08] <ebirtaid> irssi ftw
[02:08] <cafuego> !selinux
[02:08] <Kelley> Thanks Nibsa1242b
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <dga> is there a way to get the GNOME2 x-chat in the system tray?
[02:08] <kibble> ebirtaid: I said it was popular, not good
[02:08] <kevinO> hydrogen ahh i see thanks man
[02:08] <tux97> hi
[02:08] <knix> anyone have an nvidia 8800? All I get is a black screen
[02:08] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I don't know too much about the open drivers. I have an X800 and it isn't supported that well by them.
[02:08] <garu_> VousDeux lol...in my opinion, and I'm not alone on this one...its a cheap copy of mac os x...no offence for windows lovers :o!
[02:08] <tux97> anyone in here use hippo?
[02:08] <ebirtaid> well the nyes it is poplar
[02:08] <Arenlor> !Secure Linux
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about secure linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <tux> How can i get Compiz Fusion working on Gutsy?
[02:08] <kevinO> i saw a hippo today
[02:08] <cafuego> Any users of selinux on Ubuntu here who gets weird init crashes at bootup?
[02:08] <ebirtaid> !irssi
[02:08] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[02:08] <hydrogen> and mac os x is a cheap copy of gnome
[02:08] <hydrogen> SEE WHAT I DID THERE?
[02:08] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: question one, why are you cloning it?
[02:08] <atouk> !cifs
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <Kelley> As a backup before I install Gutsy.
[02:09] <hydrogen> though it definatly comes up with some cool things
[02:09] <VousDeux> I use xchat, but I don't really spend much time on chat for the most part, so I just grabbed something to use while I get everything working on this new computer...then it will be back to business
[02:09] <tux97> hehe funny kevinO i was talking about the ipod software for ubuntu
[02:09] <joely_> i need sound on my a135 toshiba satellite for Gutsy... if anyone can help me it'd be much appreciated
[02:09] <underdog5004> not sure if I should ask here or not, but how do I make the "Application Bar" show applications from all desktops, not just the current one?
[02:09] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: might mention I ran beryl on feisty though.. with open source driver.. hmm.. never ran compiz on feisty
[02:09] <fant> My fresh install of 710 is missing the network applet on the gnome-panel ... can anyone help ?
[02:09] <garu_> VousDeux ubuntu's got great graphics!I just love everything about it...everyone who looks at my lappy goes crazy...including people who love vista
[02:09] <racarter> ok i just installed ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop.. but it is saying i do not have sound.. it says no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found
[02:09] <secher> if i autoupdate my previous alpha of gutsy gibbon now, will it install the full release or will i have to reinstall??
[02:09] <Kelley> My plan was to boot into the live CD and copy and paste the contents of the Windows drive into the USB drive. Likewise, if something went wrong during installation, I would just re-copy and paste the contents of the USB drive into the Internal Drive.
[02:09] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: ok, just wanted to make sure you weren't going to try to boot from it. XP won't boot from a USB drive.
[02:09] <racarter> i know my soundcard works
[02:09] <flick> how can i delete a binding from compiz-fusion settings?
[02:10] <VousDeux> garu_: oh, hmmm...maybe I should have a look at mac os x...I didn't know they were similar
[02:10] <^^wizard^^> !firefox freeze
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox freeze - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <Arenlor> tux System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects
[02:10] <user934> ok.. im printing to cups-pdf
[02:10] <user934> It says the job is 3.5gb big?
[02:10] <user934> whats up with that?
[02:10] <MattJ> underdog5004: You can right-click on the taskbar, and choose preferences
[02:10] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: beryl which was originally a fork of compiz merged back into compiz so its basically the same now.
[02:10] <MattJ> underdog5004: There you can select "Show windows from all workspaces"
[02:10] <neopsyche> ?
[02:11] <neopsyche> :(
[02:11] <Arenlor> flick "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" then go into the settings manager and you can delete them via gui
[02:11] <garu_> VousDeux there is a video in youtube, with a guy being ironic saying that ms didnt copy mac os x!have a look at that, u'll change ur mind, I garantee you :)
[02:11] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: that won't actually clone it. You won't get boot sector info and such.
[02:11] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: yeah I thought it wouldnt be a problem regarding that ..
[02:11] <underdog5004> MattJ: I tried, but the only option I have is Properties, which goes to basic properties about the panel (height, color, etc..)
[02:11] <joely_> can you run something like the beryl manager with compiz?
[02:11] <Flats> Ok does anyone have an intel wireless 3945ABG adapter that is working in Gutsy?
[02:11] <secher> guys... if i autoupdate my previous alpha of gutsy gibbon now, will it install the full release or will i have to reinstall??
[02:11] <fant> My fresh install of 710 is missing the network applet on the gnome-panel ... can anyone help ?
[02:11] <dga> Arenlor: when i try that, i get "the composite extension is not available" when i click normal or extra. is there something else i have to install?
[02:11] <tux> Arenlor it saysThe composite extension is not available
[02:11] <kevinO> hydrogen should I use an ext2 or 3 fs?
[02:11] <Flats> •secher• the updates will make it the full
[02:11] <hydrogen> kevinO: ext3
[02:11] <minus> Hi ppl! I have an extra harddrive: /dev/sdb1 that I want to be automaticly mounted to "Computer" in gnome at startup. How/What do I do
[02:11] <secher> thanks flats
[02:11] <Arenlor> dga, tux, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"
[02:11] <garu_> VousDeux i only use windows now, because I gotta do some work using visual studio 2005 .net!lol
[02:12] <kevinO> ok
[02:12] <kevinO> thanks
[02:12] <hydrogen> !automount | minus
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: it shouldn't be. It sounds like the open source driver, Gusty, and X aren't co-operating. And your best bet is to find someone who can help you figure out how to file that as a bug report.
[02:12] <hydrogen> bah
[02:12] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: I do have a set of recovery CDs that came with my Computer which returns the computer into the original partitions like it is set up now
[02:12] <MattJ> underdog5004: Is there any kind of something on the left of all your open window in the bar? I have a seperator, try right-clicking on that
[02:12] <tux> Arenlor does it matter that i have an ati graphics card?
[02:12] <racarter> why does it say "no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found" when i try to change the volume?
[02:12] <racarter> on ubuntu 7.10
[02:12] <kibble> anyone using dell laptops and have problems?
[02:12] <minus> hydrogen, I've already put it in fstab...
[02:13] <martman> is it possible to install gnome on ubuntu server without using ubuntu-desktop? i dont want everything installed....
[02:13] <minus> Gonna reboot and insert a third harddrive..
[02:13] <minus> brb
[02:13] <underdog5004> MattJ: got it figured out, thank you!
[02:13] <numus> i am having a problem with nvidia restricted drivers.. i got nvidia-glx-new installed But it wont use the nvidia settings.. keeps using nv or vesa no matter how many times i tell it to change to nvidia
[02:13] <MattJ> underdog5004: No problem
[02:13] <Arenlor> tux go into System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager and turn on fglrx or whatever it is for your graphics card
[02:13] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: in that case you'd probably be ok, but I can't be certain since I don't use windows that much anymore. Are you afraid that the Ubuntu install with hose your windows install?
[02:13] <neopsyche> ??????????????/
[02:13] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: hmm wait a sec here now.. what exactly is the glx driver named.. is it xserver-xgl?
[02:13] <Kelley> Yeah, mainly
[02:13] <neopsyche> why does my print job say 3.5 gb?
[02:13] <Kelley> Just the partitioning
[02:13] <fant> My fresh install of 710 is missing the network applet on the gnome-panel ... can anyone help ?
[02:13] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: xserver-xgl is what I have to use because I use fglrx.
[02:13] <kibble> martman: ubuntu-desktop is just a package. there is no files in it really. it's a shell and doesn't really matter if it's install or not
[02:14] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: I have never had the partitioner screw up a drive before, but there is a first time for everything I supose
[02:14] <MattJ> fant: Try: Alt+F2, and type nm-applet, and press enter
[02:14] <kibble> neopsyche: that's going to take a lot of paper
[02:14] <kevinO> fant: look under gnome sessions and see if its enabled
[02:14] <neopsyche> trying to print to pdf
[02:14] <racarter> i need help with my sound card / drivers
[02:14] <neopsyche> why so huge?
[02:14] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: kk.. I think I said glx earlier.. just had a strange feeling when the it was xgl :)
[02:14] <garu_> Cryoniq did u actually did "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"?
[02:14] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: right now I dont even have a backup of the drive and so if the partition was wipped out, 80gb of music would be _gone_
[02:14] <fant> kevin0:  it is .. but the applet isnt running on the bar
[02:14] <tux> its already on Arenlor
[02:14] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: its wise to back up, just in case. Something could always happen... like a power outage right in the middle of partitioning.
[02:14] <fant> mattj:  nothing happens
[02:14] <martman> kibble its a virtual package that will install a crapload of stuff...i just want gnome
[02:15] <kevinO> fant: even better, add a network applet from the available applets
[02:15] <garu_> Cryoniq did u actually do!lol
[02:15] <Cryoniq> garu_: no I checked the box in synaptic and did it that way..
[02:15] <kibble> Kelley: pfft, only 80gb? buy a new drive :)
[02:15] <Arenlor> tux so you have fglrx installed and xserver-xgl installed?
[02:15] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Yeah, definetly. Do you have any recomendations for creating a clone?
[02:15] <MattJ> fant: Type nm-applet in terminal, and see if it prints any errors
[02:15] <tux97> does anyone know how come rymbox wont play songs from a ipod?
[02:15] <kevinO> fant i dont know why its not there, i just started using the applet one
[02:15] <kevinO> its nicer
[02:15] <garu_> Cryoniq try doing that in the terminal!"sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"!
[02:15] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Haha, right now the drive itself in thereis a 160gb
[02:15] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I'm known to be somewhat dyslexic so I may have glx as xgl when you said it. I'm sure I typed xgl though.
[02:15] <fant> mattj:  it moves to the next line, but doesnt do or start anything
[02:15] <tux> Arenlor: no I have the restricted drivers on (or is that it?)
[02:15] <hschroy> i just network upgraded to 7.10 on my VAIO - 7.04 was very stable, but now when the machine goes idle, it displays a login prompt upon 'waking' and then freezes up - the screen goes black and displays some messages about usb...
[02:15] <Fasma> newbie: can I open a new window on a new chat network without losing the window I'm on? how? TIA! :)
[02:15] <garu_> Cryoniq I think u need to enable ur restricted drivers and the system has to be up-to-date
[02:16] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: I typed it wrong.. a lot :)
[02:16] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: I tried clonezilla, but the interface stumped me and I was really scared I was going to screw things up big time
[02:16] <kibble> martman: yeah virtual package that's what I was trying to say, I know I always had lots of trouble with debian when i tried to force stuff in because they had stupid deps, I suppose it's possible
[02:16] <Fasma> sorry, I'm on xchat
[02:16] <Arenlor> tux please turn on your restricted drivers if there are any and "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"
[02:16] <kibble> martman: I usually just gave up and lived with it
[02:16] <Cryoniq> garu_: restricted are enabled right now and working green.. system is up to date also.. it is a clean install from beginning of gutsy also.. not an upgrade
[02:16] <martman> ouch
[02:17] <VousDeux> garu_: I see what you mean about the mac os x tiger...thanks for the enlightenment
[02:17] <MattJ> fant: Moves to the next line, and prints fant@blah-desktop:~$, or just blank on the new line?
[02:17] <fant> mattj :  blank
[02:17] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: I'm told that partimage will create a true clone. I tried it once and it didn't like me. It made the file fine, but yelled at me when I wanted to restore.
[02:17] <Cryoniq> garu_: could it be a problem the drivers are isntalled.. I mean maybe it goes wrong if installing fglrx before xserver-xgl, than other way around?
[02:17] <numus> please i am having a huge problem with nvidia can someone help me
[02:17] <garu_> Cryoniq then try that in the terminal, u wont lose anything.lol
[02:17] <MattJ> fant: Which would indicate that it is running... odd
[02:17] <Jaggs> OK I am real real new and was wondering if someone in here could help me out a little
[02:17] <garu_> VousDeux no problem :)!
[02:17] <fant> mattj:  i agree, but its not on my bar at all
[02:17] <Yowsers> does VMWare Server work on 7.10 yet?
[02:17] <Cryoniq> garu_: just my sanity.. been trying for 8 hours or so now.. probably 10 :D
[02:17] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: I'm looking at that now...
[02:17] <numus> anyone?
[02:18] <kibble> Jaggs: I'm sure someone can, try asking the problem
[02:18] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: I've personally had the best luck with dd but your millage may vary.
[02:18] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: How would I use dd?
[02:18] <tux> Arenlor: okay I did that. now what
[02:18] <Cryoniq> garu_: btw.. why does my gnome die right off if I do fglrxinfo?
[02:18] <joely_> can anyone help me with my sound? I just upgraded to Gusty and its completely not working. Toshiba Satellite a135 series. it has a realtek chip
[02:18] <cesar_> well my lunix is officially broken. gutsy destroyed my computer
[02:18] <kibble> Kelley: dd if=/dev/hda of=file.iso
[02:18] <JensenDied> kibble: bah, garbage. they really need to stop changing defaults every release. im  gonna deal with apache2.2 crud first
[02:18] <cesar_> can i boot off a live cd and access my hard drives to do a backup?
[02:18] <silent_> joely_, try reinstalling alsa-utils
[02:18] <Jaggs> OK I can not for the life of me get Ubuntu to recognise my wireless
[02:18] <garu_> Cryoniq no idea! :o
[02:18] <Burlynn> grr do i need to like add a user to samba to login after i add a folder to shared folders via samba? i cant even log in on the same damn machine ;/
[02:18] <kibble> Kelley: wasn't really playing attention to your conversation, that's how dd is used
[02:19] <silent_> joely_, try reinstalling alsa-base as well
[02:19] <MoTec> cesar_: sure, why not
[02:19] <joely_> sudo apt-get those?
[02:19] <element> hi
[02:19] <Arenlor> tux now try going into System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects and seeing if you can turn it on
[02:19] <silent_> joely_, you can always compile the latest alsa drivers from the site
[02:19] <Cryoniq> garu_: if I try aticonfig it will coredump and have xorg.conf dissapear as well.. funny problems here :)
[02:19] <joely_> ahh okay
[02:19] <element> when i turn on my Compiz effects
[02:19] <joely_> thanks
[02:19] <dga> Arenlor: how do i configure compiz now?
[02:19] <garu_> Cryoniq if ur having that much problems with ur gnome, u can always try reinstalling it :o
[02:19] <element> my titlebar dissapears
[02:19] <kibble> JensenDied: I've been upgrading to 7.10 since tribe1, haven't really had too much trouble yet
[02:19] <silent_> joely_, i believe the latest is 1.15rc3
[02:19] <garu_> Cryoniq funny indeed :o!:)
[02:19] <joely_> i'll try that
[02:19] <Cryoniq> garu_: hmm yeah.. this one is installed from the desktop iso..
[02:19] <Kelley> kibble: Ok, thanks. Does that copy all of the empty blocks though? I want to copy the 90gb of data onto a 92gb partition, but the source drive itself is 155gb
[02:20] <tux> Arenlor: still doesn't work
[02:20] <silent_> joely_, if you need help compiling just ask
[02:20] <Cryoniq> garu_: I heard there is an alternate iso also.. what is different between them?
[02:20] <tux> Arenlor: its giving me the same error
[02:20] <dga> Arenlor: compizconfig-settings-manager?
[02:20] <garu_> be right back...I'll do a restart to see if now I can play dvd's :)
[02:20] <joely_> okay thanks silent_
[02:20] <mmdski> is it possible to run 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit processor?
[02:20] <PriceChild> mmdski, yes
[02:20] <silent_> mmdski, yes
[02:20] <kibble> Kelley: it will yes, it will raw copy everything, not files, just the whole file system, since you don't know where it ends I don't think dd would be a good choice
[02:20] <edubuntu> is your wirless wep protected  Jaggs?
[02:20] <mmdski> sweet
[02:20] <element> when i turn on compiz effects, my titlebar dissapears
[02:20] <clarkey> Just a question in Gusty my wireless button on my laptop stopped working, it was in feisty but I have found a command to turn on the wireless only problem is that I have to run it every time I start the laptop is there a file I can put it to run automatically at startup? the command is         echo "1" > /proc/driver/acerhk/wirelessled
[02:20] <xIke_> anyone have any luck getting enemy territories: quake wars to work in ubuntu with radeon x1600?
[02:20] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: kibble gave a decent example... I prefer to pipe it to gzip or bzip so it zips up while its running... it works, but its slow. It makes a byte for byte copy of everything including freespace. Partimage is basically a gui interface to special uses of dd, but like I said I had issues with it... that was over a year ago though
[02:20] <Arenlor> dga did you install that? if so go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects and choose custom
[02:20] <Jaggs> I dont think so
[02:20] <mmdski> do i have to do anything special?
[02:20] <scrottles> hyi
[02:20] <f|shy> yes, so long as it isnt an itanium......
[02:20] <JensenDied> kibble: any idea where they threw the compiz config stuff?
[02:20] <element> anyone know how to fix it?
[02:21] <silent_> mmdski, 64 bit cpus are backward compatible... you can run any 32 bit OS on a 64 bit processor
[02:21] <scrottles> how does one un-ignore a repo?
[02:21] <scrottles> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[02:21] <Cryoniq> what is difference between desktop iso and alternate iso?
[02:21] <scrottles> for example
[02:21] <edubuntu> What kind of card is it
[02:21] <Arenlor> tux what visual drivers are installed by the Restricted Drivers Manager?
[02:21] <silent_> mmdski, with the right utilities you can also run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit os
[02:21] <scrottles> that line came from apt-get update
[02:21] <Lifeisfunny> I get stuff like compiz with no way to modify the settings ........  I think
[02:21] <silent_> Lifeisfunny, the options are in appearance
[02:21] <mmdski> silent_, what utilities would these be?
[02:21] <Arenlor> compizconfig-settings-manager kibble, JensenDied
[02:21] <kibble> Jaggs: wireless card? broadcom, it's pretty well suppored
[02:21] <tux> Arenlor: ATI accelerated graphics driver
[02:21] <kibble> yeah what he said
[02:22] <JensenDied> kibble: alright, one would think compiz-manager-gnome since thats the package name
[02:22] <element> when i turn on compiz effects, my titlebar dissapears anyone know how to fix it?
[02:22] <Jaggs> the kind that they put in this POS computer :)
[02:22] <Kelley> kibble and nibsa1242b: Hmm... Well I guess I should do a dd copy but how could I copy directly from the internal partition to the external USB drive?
[02:22] <Lifeisfunny> silent, there are no options to keep it from zooming
[02:22] <kibble> JensenDied: hence I said or something
[02:22] <Dumptruck> gstgnomevfssrc.c(861): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start (): /play/source:
[02:22] <Dumptruck> Could not open vfs file "http://localhost:8900/" for reading: Service not available (38)
[02:22] <Fasma> well, sorry, Ubuntu is fine but not yet ready for prime time, I was a tech-geek years ago but by now I would expect anyone and everyone to put usability in a higher priority than anything ese
[02:22] <silent_> mmdski, can't remember the name of the package. It's needed to run flash/java for 64 bit... but if you're new to ubuntu, I'd strongly recommend you install 32
[02:22] <Fasma> else
[02:22] <dga> Jaggs: i have the same card
[02:22] <Dumptruck> what does this mean?
[02:22] <JensenDied> wait, neither are there...
[02:22] <Jaggs> Im starting to wonder if it is getting the card but not the signal from the router
[02:22] <Kelley> Partimage does look easier though...
[02:22] <Arenlor> tux run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" just to make sure
[02:22] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b:   what is difference between desktop iso and alternate iso?
[02:22] <Fasma> so, back to that dreary Windows
[02:22] <kibble> Kelley: yeah dd is really not the right way to go with this one, I would use cp -Ra from-directory to-directory
[02:22] <mmdski> i'll have to do everything over again...
[02:23] <silent_> nibsa1242b, desktop boots a live version, alternate only installs
[02:23] <mmdski> thanks
[02:23] <kibble> Cryoniq: alt doesn't have a gui install
[02:23] <edubuntu> Ok is it a dell wiht a broadcom 1390?
[02:23] <silent_> nibsa1242b, alternate offers more installation options
[02:23] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: I would just try to use partimage if I were you
[02:23] <Lifeisfunny> I would like to have it simply fade when opening and have everything open in the center not 'inteligently' as if I need everything to open in a corner
[02:23] <Cryoniq> kibble: ah.. thanks
[02:23] <Jaggs> no its HP
[02:23] <element> when i turn on compiz effects, my titlebar dissapears anyone know how to fix it?
[02:23] <kibble> edubuntu: 1390 is a dell wifi card
[02:23] <silent_> edubuntu, I'm talking to you on the 1390
[02:23] <adriyel> the miniLAN Broadcom cards ARE EVIL
[02:23] <edubuntu> manufactured by broadcom? right
[02:23] <adriyel> EVIL I  SAY!
[02:23] <silent_> edubuntu, you need help getting it set up?
[02:24] <kibble> element it's pretty common, and easy to fix, but I can't recall any urls of the top of my brain
[02:24] <edubuntu> I have a air force one a BCM4318
[02:24] <Cidan> Does anyone know of a way to see joysticks and calibrate them in 7.10?
[02:24] <clarkey>  Just a question in Gusty my wireless button on my laptop stopped working, it was in feisty but I have found a command to turn on the wireless only problem is that I have to run it every time I start the laptop is there a file I can put it to run automatically at startup? the command is         echo "1" > /proc/driver/acerhk/wirelessled
[02:24] <edubuntu> Nope jaggs
[02:24] <Arenlor> adriyel you using gutsy?
[02:24] <element> if you remember pm me or write it here or whatver
[02:24] <silent_> Jaggs, you need help setting up your 1390?
[02:24] <Epico> i installed gusty finally, but there is no compiz-fusion :[
[02:24] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: alternate allows more options, doesn't give you a live cd to work from, you can upgrade from the alternate, and the alternate runs better on slower machines
[02:24] <Jaggs> iyes I do
[02:24] <element> i just want it fixed
[02:24] <JensenDied> Arenlor: well ive installed compizconfig-settings-manager (not added by default for some reason) and compiz-kde and there isnt file to run in sight =/
[02:24] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: ah
[02:24] <minus> I want ubuntu to automatically mount my 500GB ntfs disk and my 320GB EXT3 disk and show them in "Computer". Can someone tell me?
[02:24] <CarlF1> installed gutsy, installed wine, ran regedit, error: X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[02:25] <tux> Arenlor: okay now what?
[02:25] <element> epico, its there somewhrere lol
[02:25] <silent_> Jaggs, I'm running one right now so I can help you get it running in about 5 minutes, want to join another channel so its easier to talk?
[02:25] <unstable> I can use this program "luvcview" I got from http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/, and I can see myself on my webcam fine. But when I try to use xsane, or ekiga..it doesn't work.
[02:25] <Cidan> For those of you using ATI, install xgl-server and compiz
[02:25] <Jaggs> yes please
[02:25] <nibsa1242b> edubuntu: the BCM4318 is one of the cards that doesn't always work... esp if its rev 02
[02:25] <Cidan> and Ubuntu will take care of the rest
[02:25] <silent_> Jaggs, join #1390
[02:25] <Cidan> no sessions to setup
[02:25] <dga> how do i configure compiz so i have the cube? when i enable desktop cube and rotate cube, my 4 workspaces are reduced to two workspaces and i'm left with a 2d thin thing with a desktop on both sides.
[02:25] <Epico> element, how do i enable it?
[02:25] <Kelley> kibble and nibsa1242b: The command line way of doing it seems abit to complicated for me, so Partimage is looking like the way to go. I found a guide for using it with the Live CD so I think I will just do that. One question though: Will I be able to read the individual contents of that image in the case of the restore failing?
[02:25] <fepoo> if i do a straight ubuntu install instead of an update and don't format the partition, will it still kill everything in my home dir?
[02:25] <edubuntu> Which mine is
[02:25] <edubuntu> Its working fine
[02:25] <element> epico: I'll give you the link in a sec
[02:25] <unstable> "Error while opening video device USB2.0 Camera", is what Ekiga tells me
[02:25] <Jaggs> umm how do I do that>
[02:25] <Arenlor> tux now see if it runs again
[02:25] <Epico> element, thanks :]
[02:25] <Cidan> Does anyone know of a way to see joysticks and calibrate them in 7.10?
[02:25] <edubuntu> I just downloaded the windows drivers and aimd ndiswraooer at them
[02:25] <Lifeisfunny> this is currently obnoxious
[02:25] <testify> I'm having an issue with my Dlink DWL AG530 wireless network card. I can connect to my wireless network properly when I am in roaming mode, but when I change the IP address to static, it won't connect.
[02:25] <^^wizard^^> So is firefoix stable on 64-bit systems? or have there been a lot of bugs?
[02:26] <element> epico: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=2754
[02:26] <tux> arenlor: nope
[02:26] <Cidan> ^^wizard^^: No issues here
[02:26] <element> thats how i did it
[02:26] <silent_> Jaggs, "/join #1390"
[02:26] <fant> anyone know why nm-applet will not start ?
[02:26] <Burlynn> grr do i need to like add a user to samba to login after i add a folder to shared folders via samba? i cant even log in on the same damn machine ;/
[02:26] <kibble> Kelley: never used partimage, but if it uses dd linux thinks it's a drive, even if it's just a file. so yes
[02:26] <Arenlor> JensenDied run ccsm in a terminal
[02:26] <unstable> I think ubuntu is set to use v4l by default, that is the kernel module right? But it needs to use the uvc kernel module.
[02:26] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: I think so. I think you can mount it as a loopback device. However, you might not be able to do that if you choose to compress the file. (<- unsure about this last point)
[02:26] <Jaggs> silent tel me how and I will
[02:26] <jburd> ^^wizard^^: Firefox is running smoothly on all my 64-bit systems.
[02:26] <Arenlor> tux, this is really strange, did you upgrade or do a clean install?
[02:26] <alphae> turkish  help?
[02:26] <JensenDied> Arenlor: talk about intuitive names... thanks
[02:26] <Ryuho> "assistive technology support has been requested for this session" anyone get that before?
[02:26] <adriyel> Arenlor: what?
[02:26] <silent_> Jaggs, I did
[02:26] <kibble> fant: did you run it from command line? does it produce an error?
[02:26] <silent_> Jaggs, "/join #1390"
[02:26] <fepoo> anyone?  if i do a straight install without formatting my partitions, will ubuntu still kill everything in my home dir?
[02:26] <dystopianray> damn it, I can't hibernate anymore with gutsy and suspend is so flakey
[02:26] <mark_> fant: do you get any feedback when you try it on the command line?
[02:26] <edubuntu> Seems everyone is talking about nic's now
[02:26] <tux> clean install Arenlor
[02:26] <fant> kibble:  produces no errors .. acts like it starts but nothing happens
[02:27] <Jaggs> "/join #1390
[02:27] <nibsa1242b> kibble: Kelley: as far as I know partimage uses dd, cuts out all the empty space, and allows for compression
[02:27] <Kelley> kibble and nibsa1242b: Ok, I don't have any need to compress it, so I guess it should work then. I will try and read the image though and make sure it works before partitioning
[02:27] <kibble> fant: did you install network-manager?
[02:27] <silent_> Jaggs, without the quote
[02:27] <^^wizard^^> ok, then I'd imagine its either a hardware/driver issue on my end or some problem with instalation getting a lot of lockups and freezes
[02:27] <Arenlor> adriyel you said about miniLAN being evil? gutsy comes with native drivers that completely suck for it, but they do work
[02:27] <mark_> fepoo: I think in the partitioner, you can tell which partitions you format.
[02:27] <alphae> turkish  help?
[02:27] <Jaggs> sorry
[02:27] <fant> kibble:  its already installed
[02:27] <tux> Arenlor: I have an ATI Radeon X1300
[02:27] <kibble> ^^wizard^^: what type of machine?
[02:27] <fepoo> mark_: but if i don't format, will it kill everything in my home dir anyway?
[02:27] <Jaggs> So Sorry about that I didnt realise I had the quote in there
[02:27] <tux> Arenlor: Could that be part of the problem?
[02:27] <kibble> fant: did it include the gnome part to?
[02:27] <fepoo> or will it just update over what packages are there
[02:27] <Arenlor> tux I have an ATI Radeon too, so not likely
[02:27] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: just remember that if you do need to mount the image, do it read only.
[02:27] <mark_> feboo: I think only formatting kills it.
[02:27] <fepoo> k good
[02:27] <fant> kibble: sure did
[02:28] <Jaggs> I said I was real new... But I will love you forever.
[02:28] <minus> Still: "I want ubuntu to automatically mount my 500GB ntfs disk and my 320GB EXT3 disk and show them in "Computer". Can someone tell me?"
[02:28] <^^wizard^^> Intel Core2Quad with an invidia 7300gt
[02:28] <silent_> Jaggs, chat in the other channel
[02:28] <mark_> I have successfully installed Ubuntu while preseving /home before.
[02:28] <Jaggs> I promise you am quick to learn though
[02:28] <kibble> nibsa1242b: yeah I suppose if it removes the empty space :)
[02:28] <adriyel> PriceChild: you insufferable prick. that was not ban-worthy.
[02:28] <Burlynn> grr do i need to like add a user to samba to login after i add a folder to shared folders via samba? i cant even log in on the same damn machine ;/
[02:28] <Lifeisfunny> I also like the full clockwise turn when minimizing the window
[02:28] <Arenlor> tux try "sudo apt-get install compiz" and let me know if maybe it adds a package or something
[02:28] <K3nt> how do i mount my windows partition?
[02:28] <adriyel> Arenlor, why'd you ask me if I was using gutsy?
[02:28] <Dumptruck> what does this mean - 2.1 install VLC
[02:28] <Jaggs> ok why am I not showing here???? Can you see what I am typing at least?
[02:28] <Dumptruck> login with root
[02:28] <Dumptruck> cp /the/package/vlc-install-utf8-pid-getport.tgz /
[02:28] <Dumptruck> tar zxvf vlc-install-utf8-pid-getport.tgz
[02:28]  * Lifeisfunny is going through withdrawals
[02:28] <kibble> ^^wizard^^: obviously a desktop, hand built or hp or something?
[02:28] <edubuntu> Everyone has said my wireless light would be on when i got it setup actually it does not stay "on"  is it usual for them to be a steadylight when loaded or is it supposed to flash like a link light on a nic? In xp it was on for wifi on and off for wifioff now it flashes with packets sent.
[02:28] <mark_> K3nt: That's than FAQ.
[02:28] <PriceChild> adriyel #ubuntu-ops for operator/abuse questions. NOT here.
[02:28] <^^wizard^^> yeah I put it together myself
[02:28] <Jaggs> hello?
[02:28] <kibble> Jaggs: yes, but it';s really busy in here
[02:29] <K3nt> !faq
[02:29] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[02:29] <^^wizard^^> and this is the first 64 bit OS ive tried installing
[02:29] <tux> Arenlor: nope. says its already the newest version
[02:29] <edubuntu> Is there a setting to choose between ON/OFF indicator and link?
[02:29] <mark_> k3nt: See ubuntuguide.org
[02:29] <wisam>  i installed w32codecs but mplayer still can't play real media files due to missing avisynth.dll. Xine plays them just fine. any ideas?
[02:29] <warbler> mark_: during install you have to tell the  partitioner to mount the existing /home as /home
[02:29] <kibble> edubuntu: it's the driver, mine does that to
[02:29] <Arenlor> adriyel because anything < gutsy you have to find and install it separately which is even worse
[02:29] <Jaggs> silent you in here?
[02:29] <silent> jaggs, you have to select the tag
[02:29] <mark_> warbler: That sounds right.
[02:29] <silent> tab
[02:29] <edward> I just upgraded ubuntu & now my comp turns off every time I leave for an hour... how do i stop this?
[02:29] <edubuntu> Ahh
[02:29] <org> Hi there. I just installed fresh gutsy and I think i didn't partition very well. :(
[02:29] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Why do I need to mount it read only and how do I make sure it does so?
[02:29] <silent> Jaggs, open up the other channel
[02:29] <kibble> Jaggs: it's like yelling into a crowd
[02:29] <Jaggs> I did
[02:29] <edubuntu> Thx kibb
[02:30] <element> how do i mount my ipod
[02:30] <silent> Jaggs, what are you chatting in? pidgin/xchat?
[02:30] <racarter> damnit!
[02:30] <warbler> mark_: my three reinstallls agree
[02:30] <mark_> edward: review System: Preferences: Power Management
[02:30] <edubuntu> anyone know a good lamp meta package?
[02:30] <milkshake> bonsoir
[02:30] <edward> thanks
[02:30] <fant> any other ideas guys />
[02:30] <racarter> my sound card is not working on ubuntu..
[02:30] <jvon-sleep> I am having problems upgrading to gutsy, can someone help?
[02:30] <kibble> edubuntu: nothing for lamp I assume
[02:30] <kibble> racarter: what kind of card is it?
[02:30] <warbler> !ask
[02:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:30] <racarter> and i think my network card.. if i unplug the network cable i dont think i will get wireless access
[02:30] <milkshake> y a personne de francais
[02:30] <kibble> jvon: I think most of the traffic in here is because of that
[02:30] <eugo> how do i get locale support to apps like ssh
[02:30] <warbler> !fr
[02:31] <PriceChild> !fr | milkshake
[02:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:31] <ubotu> milkshake: please see above
[02:31] <racarter> honestly i am not sure... let me see if i can find out
[02:31] <unstable> How can I get xsane to use v4l2? and NOT v4l?
[02:31] <org> can somebody check this out and let me know if my partitions are OK?  However, I don't think partimage is really meant to be used in that manner. (to pull out individual files)
[02:31] <kibble> racarter: laptop or desktop?
[02:31] <racarter> laptop
[02:31] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Oh, ok. Well regaurdless, how would I mount it read only?
[02:31] <Arenlor> tux try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz xserver-xgl fglrx"
[02:32] <jvon> the upgrade log shows this..Complete: 1 Local: 0 IsTrusted: 0 FileSize: 1924684 DestFile:'/tmp/tmpByfG9g/backports/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2_i386.udeb' DescURI: 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/release-upgrader-dpkg/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2'
[02:32] <jvon> 2007-10-18 23:17:10,025 ERROR pre-requists item 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/release-upgrader-dpkg/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2_i386.udeb'
[02:32] <jvon>  is NOT trusted
[02:32] <edward> mark I can't find "power management" in the start menu, what is it under again?
[02:32] <Epico> element, i have an ATI,  and ive had problems running compiz-fusion since the day i got it
[02:32] <tux97> how come my ipod songs wont play in rb?
[02:32] <org> my "/" mount point, doesn't even have a ype "ext3" according to kdiskfree
[02:32] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: just look up mount (for example man mount)... you'll already need to look that up to figure out how to mount it loopback anyway
[02:32] <xIke_> tux97, are they aac?
[02:32] <mark_> org: Looks like about an 80 gig drive on a single partition with a 160 gig external drive, approximately.
[02:33] <tux97> nope
[02:33] <tux97> mp3
[02:33] <tux> Arenlor: says it can't find package fglrx
[02:33] <xIke_> hrm
[02:33] <coz_> anyone know if the wacom tablet drivers are initiated automatically gutsy as they were in feisty?
[02:33] <org> mark, what about those 500mb partitions, what are those
[02:33] <element> when i turn on compiz effects, my titlebar dissapears anyone know how to fix it?
[02:33] <org> mark, and why doesnt my /dev/sda1 device which is at mount point "/" doesnt have type "ext3" :(
[02:33] <xIke_> this channel is chaotic
[02:33] <mark_> edward: Just look in the scrollback of the IRC channel. I gave the location above, at least for Feisty.
[02:33] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: popped in the xserver-xgl now.. and I got lots of black fat lines and cant even see some names of people in here because there are garbage over their names.. but.. this is what is suddenly in my xorg log file: (II) fglrx(0): [pci] find AGP GART
[02:33] <Cryoniq> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[02:33] <Cryoniq> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[02:33] <element> PM me if you know how
[02:33] <Fasma> xIke_ this channel has 1277 chatters
[02:33] <edward> okey
[02:34] <tux97> xIke i just upgraded to gutsy
[02:34] <xIke_> Fasma, yeah, I love it :D
[02:34] <mark_> org: If not ext3, then what?
[02:34] <Fasma> xIke_ tough to get some answers though
[02:34] <org> it says "?"
[02:34] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Wait, what is loopback? Why will I need it?
[02:34] <jvon> any idea why my upgrade is failing?
[02:34] <xIke_> tux97, did it work in feisty?
[02:34] <VousDeux> so really, all I need to do now is move my kicker panel to the top, and the k-menu to the right, and it will look more like mac ox x tiger than it does vista
[02:34] <Jaszbo> I am having problems installing 7.10. It hangs up at 85% Is this common?
[02:34] <xIke_> Fasma, it can be hard to get answers no matter how many people are here
[02:34] <tux97> i didn't try it untill now
[02:34] <Epico> ill just go to the forums
[02:34] <kibble> element: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=when+i+turn+on+compiz+effects%2C+my+titlebar+dissapears&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[02:34] <Epico> thanks guys
[02:34] <mark_> org: What does "cat /etc/mtab" say about it?
[02:34] <org> mark, can i send you a picture please?
[02:34] <Fasma> xIke_ if it was 500 then maybe the newbies would have some more chance for help
[02:34] <minus> How do I get the UUID of a harddrive?
[02:35] <tux> Arenlor: says it can't find package fglrx
[02:35] <xIke_> tux97, so it sees them, it just can't play them?
[02:35] <kibble> mark_ way to go, people want to send you pics
[02:35] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I believe that there is an issue with AGP, the fglrx driver, and any 2.6.x kernel. You need additional drivers for your mobo for it to work.
[02:35] <unstable>  minus You don't need the uuid, just put /dev/blah1 instead
[02:35] <mark_> org:  Yes.
[02:35] <wirechief> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[02:35] <tux97> correct xIke
[02:35] <K3nt> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions this only shows for older versions of ubuntu
[02:35] <xIke_> Fasma, agreed.  I think they should open a few more channels and recommend that users go there.  at least divide up the chaos
[02:35] <mark_> kibble: ha.
[02:35] <org> mark_, accept it
[02:35] <minus> unstable, the fstab is better with UUID instead of /dev/ path
[02:35] <xIke_> tux97, hold on, I'll try it with my ipod
[02:35] <warbler> is there a terminal command for the screensaver? The GUI just ignores all my selections!
[02:35] <Fasma> xIke_ yes, usability is not a concept of priority in the Linux community
[02:36] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I'm not too familiar with running ati cards with fglrx over agp... all my comps are pcie.
[02:36] <tux97> ok thanks
[02:36] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: hmm but it use agp without the xserver-xgl and works fine.. hmm
[02:36] <Arenlor> tux it's xorg-driver-fglrx and xserver-xorg-video-at now apparently
[02:36] <wirechief> minus ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[02:36] <kibble> minus: and it's impossible to edit by hand
[02:36] <unstable> minus: better how?
[02:36] <unstable> it's the same thing
[02:36] <robert_> is there anything wrong with "echo 's@<IP_ADDRESS>@pl.envisionrx.com@g' > /tmp/sedscr | find . -type f | xargs runsed -f /tmp/sedscr" ?
[02:36] <nibsa1242b> Kelley loopback is the ability to mount a file as a drive.
[02:36] <kibble> damn, have to plug machine in
[02:36] <org> mark_, http://pastebin.com/m278262ca
[02:36] <neosix> I have agp ati and it's work fine
[02:36] <mark_> org: Looks like I need to register my nick. one minute.
[02:36] <org> mark, why you don't accept dcc send.
[02:36] <neosix> :)
[02:36] <tux> Arenlor: so what do i need to do now?
[02:36] <minus> wirechief, The drive isn't there... so thats not the way...
[02:36] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Oh, ok. That makes sense
[02:37] <mark_> org: That shows ext3 for sda1. Tha'ts good.
[02:37] <org> mark_, is my partitions are OK you think? I'm pretty new and the only thing that confuse me right now, is partitioning good:)
[02:37] <minus> unstable, If I move the connectors to the drives inside my computer, the right drive will be mounted on the same spot anyhow, cause it goes after the UUID and not /dev/ path..
[02:37] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Alright, well I guess I am going to try PartImage then. It looks like it should work for what I want it to do.
[02:37] <darkphader> no eth0 in gutsy on t20 fresh install, edgy was fine, the gutsy alt install cd started networking fine
[02:37] <org> mark_, please accept my dcc send, I beg you.
[02:38] <Negra> what is gobuntu?
[02:38] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: basically when you loop mount something as a loop device it allows you to see it as a drive. Think of it as a "virtual drive" as you will. You want to mount it ro (read only) since you wouldn't want to change any of the files in the image.
[02:38] <IcemanV9> !gobuntu | Negra
[02:38] <ubotu> Negra: gobuntu is a freedom-focused flavour of Ubuntu. See http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/130 for more.
[02:38] <etank> if my system will run from the live cd then i can assume that it will run after a full install right?
[02:38] <random> I am downloading 7.10 right now, would compiz be enabled by default?
[02:38] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: PartImage should def work. and good luck with your install
[02:38] <Arenlor> if you "sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz xserver-xgl xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xorg-video-ati" it should reinstall them for you afterwords you should be able to use it
[02:38] <Kelley> nibsa1242b and kibble: Thanks so much for your help. One last question though, when Ubuntu is installed, how do I tell Grub to load windows by default?
[02:38] <secher> do i have wrong drivers, or is can i just not run Desktop effects on a laptop with Intel x3100 graphics? Its wierd because i have used it before..
[02:38] <mark_> org: I can't. My nick isn't registered.
[02:38] <org> mark_, Ok one second
[02:38] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: hmm then this line shows up further down.. (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable.. aiglx shouldn't be in this.. aiglx is used under kde if I understood it right?
[02:38] <mark_> org: and I can't remember my password.
[02:38] <org> i'll upload somewhere
[02:38] <xIke_> bad news tux97: it works fine for me
[02:39] <random> \nick santa
[02:39] <Kelley> This is my Dad's computer, and I am installing Ubuntu for him to try out, but he still mainly want to use Windows.
[02:39] <tux97> :((
[02:39] <tux> Arenlor: so what do i need to do now?
[02:39] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: I think it auto configures grub for your windows install, but I'm not sure.
[02:39] <Arenlor> tux did you do that line that I told you?
[02:39] <xIke_> tux97, you using USB 2 I assume?
[02:39] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: AIGLX is used with Nvidia and the free drivers. Its not used with fglrx.
[02:39] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: That works. In the event that it doesn't, how would I change it?
[02:39] <unstable> Do I need to get a special xsane to use v4l2, instead of v4l? Or does the default xsane that comes with Gutsy work with v4l2, and if it works..how?
[02:39] <etank> Kelley: it will auto config but it will set ubuntu as default
[02:39] <tux97> i'm tryin to like linux alot and get rid of my dual boot with winbloze lol
[02:39] <coz_> no takers on the wacom issue?
[02:39] <tux> oh now i see it sorry Arenlor
[02:39] <Jaszbo> Hi room. I am having [problems installing Gutsy-it hangs at 85%. Is this common and is there a work arounf? I am using the alt install cd
[02:39] <IcemanV9> Kelley: it'll add windows to the grub automatically
[02:39] <tux97> how do i know if i'm using usb 2 with gutsy
[02:39] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: ah hmm..
[02:40] <etank> Kelley: i think you have to modify the grub.conf
[02:40] <Kelley> etank: How would I do that?
[02:40] <martyvis> any idea how to get system beep sounding in feisty. visual beep works when i hit Ctrl-G in a console - but no sound. sound is on and working in general
[02:40] <secher> do i have wrong drivers, or is can i just not run Desktop effects on a laptop with Intel x3100 graphics? Its wierd because i have used it before..
[02:40] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: worst case, you'd boot up with the live cd and edit GRUBs config. Other wise, it might just boot you into Ubuntu and then you'd have to setup GRUB to recongize your windows partition as bootable from there. Its not that difficult to do.
[02:41] <xIke_> tux97, so when you plug your ipod in, does rhythmbox automatically openup?
[02:41] <coz_> !blacklist
[02:41] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[02:41] <tux97> yes
[02:41] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: another thing I been thinking off is.. before I installed gutsy on this Intel bonanza intel cpu box etc.. I disabpled plug'n'play OS in bios.. think I heard one should do that.. can that have something to do with the agp error?
[02:41] <org> mark_, here check please. http://shell.lomag.net/~org/Screenshot.png
[02:41] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: but I'm like 90% sure that it should just work
[02:41] <tux97> i think hold on let me retry it
[02:41] <etank> Kelley: i think that it is in the /boot dir
[02:41] <tux> Arenlor: ok it did that. now what?
[02:41] <kevleviathan> Does anybody know how to disable the internal PC speaker? Mine beeps when I hit, for example, backspace when there's no more characters to delete such as in pidgin
[02:41] <Arenlor> tux try turning it on now
[02:42] <Kelley> nibsa1242b and etank: Ok, thanks alot. I'll do some more research on grub, but all of you have been extreemely helpful
[02:42] <tux> Arenlor: no luck :(
[02:42] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I don't know, I haven't had a computer with in years. I have plug & play turned on in my bios.
[02:42] <tux> dammit i wanna use Compiz Fusion!
[02:42] <eugo> What is the quickest way to get a FTP server up in Ubuntu?
[02:42] <smmagic> kevleviathan: Mute it?
[02:42] <kevleviathan> I can't find it in the sound mixer
[02:42] <Arenlor> tux I am not sure what's wrong with it
[02:42] <Pelo> !ftp | eugo
[02:42] <ubotu> eugo: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:42] <tux> Arenlor: let me try rebooting
[02:42] <tux> brb
[02:42] <etank> anyone know why my system will run from the live cd but will not get to a desktop after an actual install?
[02:42] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: ah hmm.. going to fiddle some more and enable it again.. thanks for answering all my questions :) Very helpful :)
[02:43] <eugo> !ftpd
[02:43] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:43] <funkyb> can anyone direct me to the correct channel for asking a compiz + conky question?  (who says dudes can't ask for directions...lol)
[02:43] <ThePub> What's needed to enable "screen2" to get xinerama back up and running under 7.10?
[02:43] <tux97> it works automaticly rb opens up when i plug it in i have mp3s on it
[02:43] <misnix> kevleviathan, system, prefs,sound,system beep
[02:43] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: at the least the install will should allow you to boot into Ubuntu. If Grub doesn't have a windows option in the menu its not that difficult to add one. Grub is great. I love being able to have a custom image at boot (I have one of my dogs).
[02:43] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: np, hope you get it figured out
[02:43] <kevleviathan> awesome! thanks so much misnix
[02:43] <XXer> Could someone give me a hand with this ...This the my first attempt at install a game in linux without the using the (add/remove app). First off im trying to install scourge, It gives me 5 steps to install it which are (1. tar -xzvf scourge-XX.tar.gz
[02:43] <XXer> 2. cd scourge-XX
[02:43] <XXer> 3. ./configure
[02:43] <XXer> 4. make
[02:43] <XXer> 5. ./src/scourge). Iv done No. 1&2 but now I dont know what No.3  means
[02:43] <tux97> it shows a red cricle with a white line through it
[02:43] <Pelo> ThePub,  I suggest you handle it as if you never had two screens before
[02:43] <kevleviathan> Now problem number 2 is that I can't get my Broadcom wireless to work, anybody have experience setting that up in Gutsy?
[02:44] <org> mark_, hi.
[02:44] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: yeah.. otherwize I have a Nvidia GeForce 6200 Turbo Edition in my other box.
[02:44] <tux97> how do i install a decoder?
[02:44] <clarkey>  Just a question in Gusty my wireless button on my laptop stopped working, it was in feisty but I have found a command to turn on the wireless only problem is that I have to run it every time I start the laptop is there a file I can put it to run automatically at startup? the command is         echo "1" > /proc/driver/acerhk/wirelessled
[02:44] <Arenlor> XXer when you've cd'd there type ./configure
[02:44] <ThePub> Pelo: that's not really helpful, especially if you're saying give up on dual monitors.
[02:44] <nibsa1242b> kevleviathan: which Broadcom card
[02:44] <etank> kevleviathan: i think you need ndiswrapper for that
[02:44] <XXer> that didnt work
[02:44] <mark_> org: ?
[02:44] <Negra> my AWN and deatop settings manager is not working
[02:44] <org> mark_, http://shell.lomag.net/~org/Screenshot.png
[02:44] <etank> kevleviathan: or something called fwcutter (i think that is it)
[02:44] <funkyb> ndiswrapper worked for me
[02:44] <Pelo> XXer,   first you need to install build essential   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:44] <tux97> mp3
[02:44] <Cryoniq> err TurboForce edition.. ^^
[02:45] <kevleviathan> etank: i've tried installing that (successfully), and I go into restricted drivers and it enables the firmware properly
[02:45] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Haha, ok. One last question actually. Right now, when the computer boots up into the Windows partition after the bios, I see a little menu that has two options. One for Windows XP and the other for Windows XP recovery console or something like that. Is that on the Master Boot Record? Will that get screwed up at all? I know the recovery console does not have its own partition
[02:45] <icon> I'm getting this error when trying to run restricted-manager: http://pastebin.ca/743065
[02:45] <kevleviathan> however, once I reboot, it stops working
[02:45] <Pelo> !mp3 | tux97
[02:45] <ubotu> tux97: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: my understanding is that support for Nvidia cards is much better then ATI currently. However, there is supposed to be an official open ATI driver coming out soon.
[02:45] <element> wow lol
[02:45] <element> compiz sucks
[02:45] <martyvis> XXer: you may need to run autogen.sh first - read the INSTALL file (or README) for instructions
[02:45] <Arenlor> element in what way?
[02:45] <element> titlebar dissapeared
[02:45] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: I experience it like that also. Yeah.. I heard there is one on the way.. :)
[02:45] <element> and terminal is just a white screen
[02:45] <coz_> element, nvidia card?
[02:45] <element> yeah
[02:45] <Pelo> element, candy rots your teeth, eye candy does it to your brain
[02:46] <kevleviathan> Weird thing is that as soon as I enable the firmware, the light turns on (the hardware LED) but shortly after turns off. The card shows up in network properties until I reboot, where it goes away
[02:46] <coz_> element, did you do nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[02:46] <Arenlor> Pelo, my college is bad for students if that's true
[02:46] <Pelo> element,  that's just a decorator issue ask in #ubuntu-effect and they will tell you how to fix it
[02:46] <funkyb> ok - I use conky and compiz in gusty.  When I load conky from terminal everything is great.  When conky loads on startup, compiz puts shadows on the conky window and the window is not 'underneith' all other windows, like it is when I run from terminal (after killing the startup instance)
[02:46] <element> yeah
[02:46]  * Cryoniq heads over to the bios.. maybe brb
[02:46] <IcemanV9> Pelo: ha. well put. :)
[02:46] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: I don't know. It doesn't sound like an mbr thing to me. It sounds like a windows thing, and should probably be fine.
[02:46] <XXer> Ok thanks Ill give thoes a try THanks
[02:46] <coz_> element, and  which nvidia card and driver are you using
[02:46] <tux> Arenlor: its kind of working now. I wan't compiz fusion now :D
[02:46] <Kelley> nibsa1242b: Ok, thanks alot
[02:46] <tux> Arenlor: there are no fancy effects but its running on extra right now
[02:46] <element> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[02:46] <nibsa1242b> Kelley: np
[02:46] <Kelley> I'm off to actually do all of this...thanks and bye all.
[02:47] <coz_> element, more importantly how are you starting compiz fusion
[02:47] <payan> i'm having problems with network manager
[02:47] <Arenlor> tux, do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[02:47] <etank> well wish me luck. im going to reboot this darn thing
[02:47] <mark_> org: I'm not sure why 'kdf' shows a question mark.
[02:47] <warbler> can somebody tell me the screensaver command line options - Gui is ignoring everything I do!
[02:47] <payan> i want to enable all my NIC's at startup
[02:47] <fant> payan:  so am i ... im about to give up on gutsy its been a nightmare since i started yesterday
[02:47] <mark_> org: the entry in /etc/mtab means it is mounted as 'ext3'
[02:47] <VousDeux> !medibuntu
[02:47] <tux> Arenlor: yes but it doesn't load
[02:47] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:47] <tux97> whats that arenlor
[02:47] <payan> fant:don't
[02:47] <org> mark_, Okay
[02:47] <warbler> !screensaver
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <icon> I'm getting this error when trying to run restricted-manager, I've just upgraded to gutsy: http://pastebin.ca/743065
[02:48] <Arenlor> tux97 not you the other tux lol
[02:48] <coz_> element, are you using feisty or gutsy and how are you starting compiz fusion
[02:48] <payan> fant:Don't give up 'cause of network manager
[02:48] <element> System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects>Custom
[02:48] <funkyb> to run compiz in gusty - goto system, appearance and turn on the extra effects.  then install and use the advanced desktop effects manager
[02:48] <element> gutsy
[02:48] <Pelo> warbler,  try in the searching in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:48] <numus> anyone good at grub editing.. i am editing menu.lst to make windows boot first
[02:48] <coz_> element, ok  and are you using gnome or KDE
[02:48] <element> gnome
[02:48] <tux97> oh ok arenlor
[02:48] <warbler> Pelo: no luck there :(
[02:48] <numus> do i just put the windows lines ontop of the others.. or do i have to change the chainlist
[02:48] <coz_> element, ok open a terminal and metacity --replace to kill fusion
[02:48] <tux> Arenlor: yes but it doesn't load :(
[02:48] <numus> err chain loader
[02:48] <Arenlor> tux, can you go to System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings and load that?
[02:48] <Pelo> numus,  join me in #pelo for a little grub one on one
[02:48] <funkyb> so no takers on the compiz/conky/gusty question?
[02:48] <knix> Can anyone install nspluginwrapper on amd64? ia32-libs doesn't exist
[02:49] <Blama[STOLZEN]> Can anyone help me with this error when I login? "Internal error failed to initialize HAL!"
[02:49] <coz_> element, then in that same terminal  use this this command and pastebin the output     compiz --replace ccp &
[02:49] <funkyb> HAL is important...
[02:49] <tux> Arenlor: I don't see that one
[02:49] <coz_> element, are you also using emerald?
[02:49] <mEck0_> Hi! as a racing fan I wonder which is the best car game for linux? have tried Torcs but I don't think it was so impressive.
[02:49] <kevleviathan> OK so does anybody know how to set up a Broadcom BCM94311MCG wlan card?
[02:49] <kevleviathan> the bcm43xx-fwcutter doesn't seem to work
[02:49] <tux97> arenlor i dont get this decoder page wanna help me out please https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/7566
[02:49] <insider> "Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled": how do i enable this component?
[02:49] <coz_> mEck0, if you are on ubuntu and I am guessing you are go to    getdeb.net
[02:50] <tux> Arenlor: I don't see that one on the list. now what
[02:50] <eugo> !GProftpd
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <Arenlor> tux please try this "sudo apt-get install comizconfig-settings-manager" because it seems to have uninstalled itself or something
[02:50] <funkyb> administration -> software sources
[02:50] <funkyb> (in gusty)
[02:50] <tux> Arenlor: k hold ojn
[02:50] <mEck0_> coz_, yeah, I'm running ubuntu 7.10, thx, will check!
[02:50] <Dante123> hi all.....lost my trashcan icon on panel....how do I empty trash via terminal or some other method?
[02:50] <coz_> mEck0, go under catagories there and the games list
[02:51] <funkyb> yea, the compizconfig-settings-manager is where all the fun is at :-)
[02:51] <mEck0_> coz_, okay
[02:51] <mark_> Dante123: try right clicking the panel and using "Add to Panel" to get the trash icon back.
[02:51] <Blama[STOLZEN]> Can anyone help me with this error when I login? "Internal error failed to initialize HAL!"
[02:51] <coz_> mEck0,  alien arena  is cool although not a racing game
[02:51] <element> brb
[02:51] <insider> i already installed g++... but everytime i try to run it, it says i should enable the universe component
[02:51] <payan> fant:are you there?
[02:52] <Dante123> thanks that did it
[02:52] <kevleviathan> hey funkyb, you said you got ndiswrapper to work?
[02:52] <Arenlor> tux97 go to Applications > Add/Remove and search in all applications (choose from drop down menu) for gstreamer and install it all
[02:52] <mEck0_> coz_, hmm, theres only 8 different games on the site :S
[02:52] <tux> Arenlor: can't find comizconfig-settings-manager. compiz one is the latest. i ran --reinstall but it sitll doesn't do anything
[02:52] <knix> Can anyone install nspluginwrapper on amd64? ia32-libs doesn't exist
[02:52] <mark_> Blama: Rebooting helps?
[02:52] <funkyb> Blama, i am no expert on linux, but i'm decent with win32.  HAL is the hardware abstraction layer and if it's messed up the easiest solution may be a reinstall.  linux may be friendlier, i am no expert.
[02:52] <coz_> mEck0, well its a start   you can google   linux  games    as the search string
[02:52] <Arenlor> tux sorry typo it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:53] <element> it won't let me do it in same terminal
[02:53] <payan> how to restart networking?
[02:53] <nibsa1242b> can someone point me to an in-depth how to for sharing using NFS between multiple ubuntu boxen?
[02:53] <tux> Arenlor: it dosen't work :\ I even reinstalled it
[02:53] <coz_> does anyone know if wacom tablet drivers are enabled by default in gutsy or if they have to be configured?
[02:53] <element> what's the command again though?
[02:53] <Sevk> hi,all
[02:53] <mark_> payan: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:53] <org> I just installed Gutsy and i would like a tutorials that tells me few useful packages that I do really need to install as a start :)
[02:53] <mEck0_> coz_, *testing*
[02:53] <element> Sevk: hi
[02:53] <funkyb> nibsal242b - i think what you want is samba
[02:53] <funkyb> i made it work pretty easy on my lan
[02:53] <Blama[STOLZEN]> mark_, funkyb, I get it everytime I log on to Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to do anything but annoy me but I am unable to open the Device Manager and I think it is because of this problem.
[02:53] <jdong> coz_: I see xorg.conf entries for them... don't know much else
[02:53] <Arenlor> tux are you sure? it is all one word like that, because if it's installed you'll see System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[02:53] <coz_> element,  ok what were we talking about
[02:53] <bluebanana> i want to install freshly ubuntu 7.10. Should i get main iso or alternate-install iso? Please support your answer. Thank you.
[02:54] <payan> mark_:Thanks, i always forget it :s
[02:54] <aro> bluebanana, how much ram do you have
[02:54] <coz_> jdong, ok thanks
[02:54] <element> title bar disappears during compiz effects
[02:54] <brooklynhype> can someone help me install the flash plugin on firefox, i get this mesage when i try to do it ''can not find 'flashplugin-nonfree''
[02:54] <bluebanana> aro: how can i check?
[02:54] <aro> bluebanana, alternate is mainly for older computers
[02:54] <K3nt> in the OS selector( im dual booting) i cant see vista at all. I was hoping to mount the vista partition to make sure it works. the guide for mounting the partition o the faq is outdated. any help?
[02:54] <aro> bluebanana, are you on live cd?
[02:54] <bluebanana> i'm on no cd yet
[02:54] <tux> Arenlor: I don't see it. CompizConfig Settings Manager doesn't load
[02:54] <aro> bluebanana, in windows?
[02:54] <bluebanana> aro, how can i find out how much ram i have?
[02:54] <org> I just installed Gutsy and i would like a tutorials that tells me few useful packages that I do really need to install as a start :)
[02:54] <funkyb> Blama, I am surprised to hear you can boot a machine complaining of problems with HAL.  Sorry I am not of more help
[02:54] <coz_> element, ok    in terminal after you have done   metacity --replace   then do   compiz --replace ccp & emerald --replace
[02:55] <bluebanana> aro, on 7.04, but upgrade is troublesome.
[02:55] <nibsa1242b> funkyb: I thought samba was for sharing with windows... but I guess 2 Ubuntu machines could share through it as well. I was trying to do an NFS share, but I can't get either of the computers to see each other.
[02:55] <bluebanana> i want fresh install
[02:55] <funkyb> org, just google for gusty fun
[02:55] <funkyb> oh wait
[02:55] <KillerKiwi2005> How do I add a module option at boot time I need to do    "modprobe saa7134 pinnacle_remote=1" at boot ?
[02:55] <Arenlor> tux did you "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" exactly like that? Try it again and tell me what it says
[02:55] <K3nt> !mount
[02:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:55] <coz_> element, then go to http://pastebin.ca and paste the output from the terminal after you have done that last command
[02:55] <mark_> Blama: try the HAL mailing list: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal
[02:55] <funkyb> I thought you said NTFS sharing, so i assumed win
[02:55] <aro> bluebanana, do this
[02:55] <ader10> How do I run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit cpu (64 bit linux)
[02:55] <aro> bluebanana, in terminal, less /etc/proc/meminfo
[02:55] <org> funkyb, Didn't give me good results. I need a url for starters.
[02:55] <aro> tell me what memtotal says
[02:56] <Jaggs> well it appears I lost my help...
[02:56] <tux> Arenlor: it says its already the newest version. but it still doesn't load
[02:56] <funkyb> org - check out conky, get compiz spinning all purdy like, and I like to google Ubuntu customization for theme and eye candy stuffs
[02:56] <K3nt> !DiskMounter
[02:56] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:56] <element> i can't see the terminal after i do the command
[02:56] <element> its a white screen
[02:56] <Arenlor> tux the command line for it is ccsm
[02:56] <funkyb> transparent terminals in compiz are easy and nice
[02:56] <nibsa1242b> I need help sharing files between 2 (or more) Ubuntu machines. any takers?
[02:56] <element> wait
[02:56] <element> let me try again
[02:56] <coz_> element, and you are using nvidia card right
[02:56] <knix> What's the metapackage that installs all the libc-dev stuff
[02:56] <Arenlor> tux please put ccsm into the terminal (no sudo)
[02:56] <bluebanana> aro: "/etc/proc/meminfo: No such file or directory"
[02:57] <element> ya
[02:57] <coz_> element, then you dont have the drivers installed or installed correctly
[02:57] <MenZa> knix: Might it be libc6?
[02:57] <MenZa> knix: Just a guess.
[02:57] <tux> Arenlor: okay now what
[02:57] <K3nt> can someoen help me mount my vista partition? the guide on the ubuntu site is outdate
[02:57] <knix> MenZa: no there's a metapackage that installs a bunch fo headers
[02:57] <ader10> How do I run 32 bit programs on 64 bit linux?
[02:57] <element> i just did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[02:57] <coz_> element, did you also do the nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[02:57] <MenZa> knix: Ah. Then pass, sorry.
[02:57] <Arenlor> tux press enter if you didn't and it should load something
[02:57] <element> yes
[02:57] <luks> tekken 6
[02:57] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: here is the problem I think with fglrx and dri. kernel log says "[fglrx] Internal AGP is not sup
[02:57] <Cryoniq> ported in 2.6 kernel." and on ATI's homepage it says: "Note: 	In order to use the fglrx internal AGP support, you have to make sure that the kernel agpgart support is not active, i.e. it is not compiled into the kernel and the kernel modules are not loaded. If the fglrx kernel module detects that the kernel agpgart support is active, it will automatically use that even if its internal AGP support is requested in order to avoid conf
[02:57] <Cryoniq> licts that can cause problems under some circumstances."
[02:58] <bluebanana> what's the difference between alternate and main isos? Is one faster than the other?
[02:58] <bluebanana> (For gutsy)
[02:58] <knix> alternative has text-based installer
[02:58] <MenZa> !alternate | bluebanana
[02:58] <ubotu> bluebanana: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[02:58] <dt1> hi all
[02:58] <coz_> element, ok i dont normally do support on this channel since this is ubuntu in general you may want to go to #compiz-fusion for support there  i wont be ther today because i am installing gutsy
[02:58] <MenZa> I peronally prefer the alternate disk, bluebanana
[02:58] <tomd123> hi
[02:58] <dt1> might someone be able to help me with my problems conscerning my 7.10 upgrade?
[02:58] <paradizelost> hey all. I just did a fresh install of a 7.10 server, what's the best way to get either gnome or kde, but no kdm/gdm ?
[02:58] <tux> Arenlor: it didn't It gave me an AttributeError. (AttributeError: 'compizconfig.Plugin' object has no attribute 'Initialized')
[02:58] <bluebanana> so, since i'm no expert, i should go for the Main/Desktop cd, yes?
[02:58] <bluebanana> MenZa: why do you prefere alternate?
[02:58] <Madpilot> dt1, just ask, please don't ask to ask.
[02:58] <kevleviathan> funkyb: would you happen to be able to help me out for a sec on how you set up ndiswrapper?
[02:58] <Ryuho> what do i have to kill to restart wifi connection?
[02:58] <ader10> How do I run 32 bit programs on 64 bit linux?
[02:59] <coz_> element, however there are several other support people there today  so that would be the best place to go at this point
[02:59] <mark_> nibsa1242b: re: file sharing, try ubuntuguide.org, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[02:59] <element> k
[02:59] <dt1> I can't get miro to update.  It worked fine in feisty
[02:59] <MenZa> bluebanana: I find it's less... uh, distractive. And it's easy enough to use. It's got a better partition editor and such. If you've never installed Ubuntu before, go with the desktop CD.
[02:59] <wastrel> paradizelost: just install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop  and turn off gdm or kdm
[02:59] <axisys> i noticed if i choose visual effects my gnome takes us about 400M .. outch! system gets really slow.. wasnt like this w/ beryl on fiesty fawn
[02:59] <K3nt> apparently, using diskmounter, No usable windows/mac partitions found
[02:59] <dt1> and now when I try to load
[02:59] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I think that might be part of the problem, but I don't know how to fix it. Sounds like you'd need to compile your own kernel.
[02:59] <axisys> any tip to fix that?
[02:59] <dt1> it tells me that I need to update
[02:59] <coz_> element, you can talk to severl people  adamk  if he is there   crdlb  jupiter1tx  or amphi
[02:59] <nibsa1242b> mark_: I tried that. Didn't work.
[02:59] <paradizelost> dt1: the mirrors are getting hit very hard today. try several times, several hours apart
[02:59] <RoC_MasterMind> Why does the VLC in gutsy NOT pause/play when I hit spacebar?
[02:59] <mark_> Ryuho: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:59] <RoC_MasterMind> It did in feisty.
[02:59] <Blama[STOLZEN]> mark_ Hmm, do you know why I wouldn't be able to Device Manager? It opens for a second and then closes
[02:59] <dt1> but update won't allow me to click the version
[02:59] <tux> Arenlor: it didn't It gave me an AttributeError. (AttributeError: 'compizconfig.Plugin' object has no attribute 'Initialized') so now what?
[02:59] <Arenlor> tux that seems to be a bug, report it on launchpad
[03:00] <mark_> nibsa1242b: didn't work how?
[03:00] <Ryuho> mark_ that doesn't work
[03:00] <Arenlor> Amaranth you on?
[03:00] <coz_> element, jupiter1tx has extensive nvidia experience
[03:00] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: yeah.. =( and only kernel i compiled was in slakware like 10 years ago.. once.. :D
[03:00] <tux> Arenlor: how am i going to do that?
[03:00] <bluebanana> MenZa:  i've installed ubuntu before
[03:00] <Jaggs> Ok I know I lost my help
[03:00] <mark_> Blama[STOLZEN]: No, I don't.
[03:00] <nibsa1242b> mark_: my machines can't see eachother
[03:00] <dt1> paradizelost: I am currently running 7.1
[03:00] <bluebanana> installing with desktop/main cd is slower than text-based/alternate cd, true or false?
[03:00] <coz_> element, although he does not use ubuntu
[03:00] <VousDeux> !quicktime
[03:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:00] <Ryuho> mark_ how would i manually set the connection? is there a command you can refer me to?
[03:00] <MenZa> bluebanana: True.
[03:00] <tux> !launchpad
[03:00] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:00] <Jaggs> is there someone else who an help me get my wireless card up and running?
[03:00] <paradizelost> dt1: yes, if you are trying to do an apt-get update and such, the servers are getting hit hard today. try tomorrow or so.
[03:00] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: I still think your best bet is to use the open source driver somehow.
[03:00] <testify> Why is roaming mode for wireless cards so impossibly AWESOME...but manual sucks arse?
[03:01] <kevleviathan> Jaggs: I'm having the same problem
[03:01] <ader10> How do I run 32 bit programs on 64 bit linux?
[03:01] <dt1> oh
[03:01] <kevleviathan> Jaggs: you using a broadcom wireless?
[03:01] <mark_> nibsa1242b: Try asking on a Samba or SMB mailing list. That's the file sharing software
[03:01] <dt1> ok
[03:01] <dt1> thanks
[03:01] <Peaker> I am trying to change my X resolution with gvidm, and it usually works, but sometimes it ceases to work until I restart my X server, and there's no error message or such to debug the problem
[03:01] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: also explains why it worked in feisty probably.. below this kernel version.
[03:01] <alexre1> does anyone know if there's a FAQ/manual for setting up the compizfusion cube desktop? i'm trying to enable it via the "compizconfig settings manager", but it's not doing anything
[03:01] <Jaggs> yes I am
[03:01] <Kelley> Ugh, I ran into a problem using Partimage to clone my drive
[03:01] <watchme> hi all...
[03:01] <Arenlor> tux https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[03:01] <Blama> Does anyone know why I would not be able to open the Device Manager? It closes as soon as it opens.
[03:01] <kevleviathan> Jaggs: I've been trying forever, can't get it to work
[03:01] <coz_> alexre1,  make sure the desktop cube and the rotate cube plugins are enabled
[03:01] <Arenlor> jaa /part time for me
[03:01] <warbler> alexrel: there is the chat - #compiz-fusion
[03:01] <Jaggs> well im in #1390
[03:01] <mark_> Ryuho: manually set the wireless connection? Click the networking applet icon, or 'man ifconfig' on hte command line.
[03:01] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: was thinking about that during restart.. but I think it is the same problem with the open source driver also..
[03:02] <Kelley> Its asking me for the image file to create/use. I want to put the image on an external drive but I don't know how to tell it to do that.
[03:02] <mark_> Ryuho: you should be able to handle it graphically.
[03:02] <Kelley> Can anybody help me?
[03:02] <Jaggs> maybe if we can find someone to help us they can knock us both out in one shot
[03:02] <bluebanana> so i should just get text based installer, if i want speed yes?
[03:02] <Lerris> if anyone knows of how to fix a problem with dvd-r burning with sata (phillips drive) using amd64 version of gutsy with a SiI 3114 chipset, i'd kind of like to get this working.
[03:02] <Ryuho> mark_ ok ill try
[03:02] <paradizelost> bluebanana: or if you have oddball hardware
[03:02] <K3nt> can someone help me out with this error? "No usable windows/mac partitions found"
[03:02] <mark_> !ask
[03:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:02] <allobjects> I have upgraded a previously perfectly running 7.04 to 7.10 (running as a virtual box VM on windose host) but it now fails to start xserver, I can ping the machine from elsewhere but unfortunatelyhave not enabled ssh yet so can't get in. Any suggestions ?
[03:02] <nibsa1242b> mark_: besides it doesn't tell me what ports to open
[03:02] <MenZa> Yeah, bluebanana.
[03:02] <watchme> I got a new HDD. Now I want to copy the old one to the new 1:1 . Are there any suggestions, how I can do that (Including Partitions and MBR) ?
[03:02] <MenZa> K3nt: Well, what's the problem?
[03:02] <kevleviathan> Jaggs: what methods have you tried? I've tried the BCM43xx_fwcutter firmware which won't work, also the ndiswrapped method which also doesn't work
[03:03] <mark_> nibsa1242b: open all ports temporarily for testing.
[03:03] <Blama> Does anyone know why I would not be able to open the Device Manager? It closes as soon as it opens.
[03:03] <Lerris> ARe the hard drives exactly identical watchme?
[03:03] <paradizelost> watchme: dd is the command you want if they are the exact same drive
[03:03] <K3nt> im trying to mount my vista partition but its not getting recognized (above error)
[03:03] <mark_> nibsa1242b: both computers are on the same network?
[03:03] <MenZa> K3nt: Ah. What are you using to mount it?
[03:03] <knix> MenZa: build-essentials was the one :)
[03:03] <Kelley> Anybody?
[03:03] <allobjects> is there something I can do during the boot process ? it drops to text boot saying xserver stopped 6 time in 90 sec waiting for 2 min
[03:03] <watchme> paradizelost: nope unfortunaly they arent
[03:03] <mark_> Kelley: Just ask. Don't ask to ask.
[03:03] <nibsa1242b> Cryoniq: feisty was still 2.6.x; you can try booting with a feisty kernel... I remember someone saying that fixed the fglrx suspend issue
[03:03] <MenZa> knix: Oh yeah; that installs build tools and stuff. :)
[03:03] <Jaggs> ive got the wrapper in there and then i attempted to get some drivers for it... Ive done all I can do on my own
[03:03] <paradizelost> watchme: generally i use ghost for that
[03:03] <K3nt> MenZa:  sudo bash diskmounter
[03:03] <watchme> the old one is an 40GB IDE and the new one is a 160GB SATA
[03:03] <ader10> How do I run 32 bit programs on 64 bit linux?
[03:03] <Lerris> well you need to create the partitions and then copy the files with a live cd
[03:03] <Jaggs> I have gotta habe someone who knows the system better than I do
[03:04] <Kelley> Mark_: I asked above, but nobody answered :P
[03:04] <RoC_MasterMind> Why does the VLC in gutsy NOT pause/play when I hit spacebar?
[03:04] <MenZa> K3nt: Sounds like you might have to mount it manually.
[03:04] <Lerris> then copy the master boot record with dd.  (i don't remember the details)
[03:04] <nibsa1242b> mark_: yes, both on the same network, both running Gusty, and I wanted to do it with NFS but I don't mind going SMB
[03:04] <Lerris> or just install grub again
[03:04] <Jaszbo> Hi...I am installing on an HP dv6646us, and it is hanging up at 85%...can anyone help me get past this point?
[03:04] <bluebanana> maybe you guys can help me now, when I did the _upgrade_ from 7.04 to 7.10, the system didn't have my monitors in their list of monitors (under Screen resolution). I have NEC MultiSync FP2141SB and an AOC 9Klr. What must I do?
[03:04] <Casey> Is there a way to play password protected MMS streams?
[03:04] <paradizelost> ader10: there should'nt be anything to do, just run them
[03:04] <K3nt> MenZa: good thing i have free time, :)
[03:04] <kevleviathan> Jaszbo, is it stuck at "scanning"?
[03:04] <MenZa> Jaszbo: Using the LiveCD?
[03:04] <Cryoniq> nibsa1242b: doesn't hurt to try and rip xorg-glx, the restricted drivers and make sure the open source is only in system. remember that under feisty one couldnt have any trace from the restriced while the open source was there or it would fail for some reason.
[03:04] <Blama> Does anyone know why I would not be able to open the Device Manager? It closes as soon as it opens.
[03:04] <MenZa> K3nt: Right; second.
[03:04] <Kelley> I'm trying to figure out how to tell Partition Image to make the image of my disk onto a usb drive
[03:04] <Jaszbo> No the alt install cd
[03:04] <watchme> paradizelost: is there an "opensource-Ghost" ?
[03:04] <bluebanana> I'm just worried that I'll have problems with my monitors when i do a fresh/clean install.
[03:04] <RoC_MasterMind> ader10, I don't think that's possible...is it?
[03:04] <paradizelost> nibsa1242b: i recommend NFS, but samba is easier
[03:04] <Cryoniq> err.. xserver-xgl etc.. totaly wrong of me above there.. :D
[03:04] <mark_> nibsa1242b: To do NFS, you need to have exactly matched user IDs.
[03:04] <RoC_MasterMind> The only exception might be
[03:05] <paradizelost> watchme: never looked, i've got legit licenses, and have for a very long time
[03:05] <RoC_MasterMind> !flash64 > ader10
[03:05] <testify> I'm having an issue with my Dlink DWL AG530 wireless network card. It works just fine in roaming mode, but when I try and configure it manually, I either get no connection shown in 'iwconfig' or no IP from DHCP (I am trying to configure a static IP address for my WPA wireless network).
[03:05] <MenZa> Uhumm... K3nt, the guide seems to be missing, so I'll talk you through it
[03:05] <mark_> Kelley: You are trying to make a disk image to be a live file system on a USB drive?
[03:05] <paradizelost> mark_: not necessarily, you can open up by ip, to have full rights
[03:05] <nibsa1242b> mark_: I need to know the other computers user ID or both have to login with the same ID?
[03:05] <MenZa> K3nt: Do you know the location of the device, e.g. /dev/sdax, /dev/sdbx, /dev/hdax etc.?
[03:05] <K3nt> MenZa: ok let me register my nick, that way we dont muck up the channel. back in a sec
[03:06] <aebrahim> using do-release-upgrade on my server install i get this: Failed http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main tzdata 2007h-0ubuntu0.7.10
[03:06] <aebrahim> is that going to be a problem?
[03:06] <allobjects> How does one boot to just a terminal window login ?
[03:06] <MenZa> No, we'll be staying in the channel, so others may benefit from it as well---don't worry. :)
[03:06] <Kelley> mark_: No, I am trying to create an image of an internal drive and put that image onto an external USB drive for backup, using the Ubuntu live CD and Partition Image
[03:06] <B_166-ER-X> !xdtv
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdtv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <Blama> Does anyone know why I would not be able to open the Device Manager? It closes as soon as it opens.
[03:06] <paradizelost> aebrahim: yah, there's a problem with that. the mirrors are getting hit hard, but if you keep trying, you should get it
[03:06] <NemesisD> guys im getting a lot of "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured) whilst i upgrade to gutsy
[03:06] <warbler> allobjects: choose the rescue option at boot
[03:06] <Jaggs> hey kevleviathan go to #1390
[03:06] <K3nto> MenZa: you da boss. let me do what you just said lol. second
[03:06] <Wolf23> scguy318:  wb
[03:06] <mark_> nibsa1242b: Have you tried googling it? http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[03:06] <aebrahim> paradizelost: so basically try again later is your advice?
[03:06] <Jaggs> ive got the help back
[03:07] <zetheroo> has anyone gotten the screen expansion to work?
[03:07] <kevleviathan> whats #1390?
[03:07] <MenZa> K3nto: Sure :)
[03:07] <nibsa1242b> mark_: very much so, can't find anything that explains in enough detail how to do it
[03:07] <allobjects> warbler, how do I do that ?
[03:07] <mark_> Kelley: do you care whether the result on the USB drive is a live file system or an "image" file?
[03:07] <paradizelost> NemesisD: yes, there's an issue with the tzdata package, it apears it gets kinda skipped during the downloads because the servers are getting hit hard
[03:07] <Jaggs> kevleviathan: the channel I have help on
[03:07] <ader10> "RoC_MasterMind wants you to know: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. " I don't care about firefox right now.... I've got that working fine. I want to know how to use the installer (32 bit) for ETQW.
[03:07] <jimmacdonald> Having an odd problem. I just upgraded to Gutsy on my unbuntu box and I am having difficulty with my wired NIC. I am setup on a router through to a cable modem and when I boot up I have to manually initiate dhcp. If I set my network connect to DHCP my browser and email fail to work. but IRC and chat works just fine.
[03:07] <NemesisD> paradizelost, i actually believe i installed that earlier today
[03:07] <K3nto> MenZa: nope hehe im not sure what its under
[03:07] <oxeimon> I'm getting the error "No root file system is defined. Please correc this from the partitioning menu", while trying to install 7.10
[03:08] <ader10> RoC_MasterMind: Have any idea how to get an installer to work? (a 32 bit one)
[03:08] <Jaggs> litterlaly type "/go to#1390/"
[03:08] <numus> anyone know why the nvidia drivers are not working for me.. if i switch to them it reverts to the vesa drivers
[03:08] <NemesisD> paradizelost, one of the packages left unconfigured was bash, that troubles me, is this going to brick my system?
[03:08] <Kelley> mark_: No, I need it to be just an image file that I can restore to if something goes wrong, but if there is a way to be able to use it as a live file system, that would be good to.
[03:08] <mark_> nibsa1242b: when you try the instructions at http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing, what goes wrong?
[03:08] <warbler> allobjects: the option should be there at the grub menu during boot
[03:08] <RoC_MasterMind> ader10, you got me...I'm not sure if that's possible.
[03:08] <Burlynn> nibsa1242b, im going through the same thing. that link that was posted is horribly out of date ;/
[03:08] <ader10> RoC_MasterMind: :<
[03:08] <MenZa> K3nto: ok, try typing "sudo fdisk -l" (that's a lower-case L, not a capital i) and paste it in a pastebin, then link me to it
[03:08] <paradizelost> NemesisD: i had the issue on 2 systems, it was faster to just reinstall them, so i did
[03:08] <axisys> any ubuntu user with compiz-fusion ? i see my laptop is slow.. how do I get aiglx w/ compiz fusion
[03:08] <RoC_MasterMind> ader10, that's why I think it's best to stick with 32-bit for the foreseeable future.  A lot of software is 32-bit only.
[03:08] <zetheroo> screen expansion anyone?
[03:08] <numus> anyone know why the nvidia drivers are not working for me.. if i switch to them it reverts to the vesa drivers
[03:08] <mark_> Kelley, is the USB drive empty, and larger than the file system to back up?
[03:08] <RoC_MasterMind> ader10, and a lot more is 64-bit only on Intel/AMD
[03:09] <paradizelost> ader10: i agree with him for the time being
[03:09] <|neon|> iplist does not install on gutsy because of libnfnetlink1 any suggestions
[03:09] <NemesisD> paradizelost, feh i have a lot of data and settings that i don't particularly want to lose
[03:09] <Lerris> I take it no one has had any issues getting sata dvd writers to work?
[03:09] <mark_> Kelley: and you want to backup a windows drive ?
[03:09] <biggahed> hello there. Im trying gutsy amd64.   while I'm in the Prepare Partitions window...
[03:09] <nibsa1242b> when I type sudo mount [IPaddress of computer with shared dir]:/shareddir/ [local mountpoint] I get " mount: special device [ip address] doesn't exist
[03:09] <paradizelost> NemesisD: this is why we do multiple partitions, and only format the system partition
[03:09] <RoC_MasterMind> biggahed, what does the 2nd line of free -m say?
[03:09] <paradizelost> ;)
[03:09] <ader10> RoC_MasterMind: I guess I can use 32 bit if there's no other option, but I think it would be nice to see some blender render times go down a little :P
[03:09] <Kelley> mark_: Yes, I am trying to back up my windows drive. I have an external USB drive about exactly the same size as the drive I am trying to clone
[03:09] <K3nto> MenZa: http://pastebin.com/m74e476e6
[03:09] <wastrel> oxeimon: you have to set the label to  /  on the partition you want to use as your root partition
[03:09] <Lerris> i have amd64 running, and other than a graphics card stability issue, which is likely the nvidia driver, and a dvd writer issue, all seems well
[03:09] <numus> anyone know why the nvidia drivers are not working for me.. if i switch to them it reverts to the vesa drivers
[03:10] <biggahed> Mem:          2014       1963         50          0        122        981
[03:10] <unstable> How do I get all applications that want to do video capture via webcam, to use v4l2, instead of v4l? like xsane for example
[03:10] <DanMulvey> is there any advantage right now to going with the 64 bit distro?
[03:10] <Kelley> mark_: However, the drive I want to clone has two partitions, one is a 5gb recovery made by HP, and the other is Windows itself.
[03:10] <suupaabaka> man
[03:10] <MenZa> OK, K3nto, we're looking at either sda2 or sda3
[03:10] <Smegzor> Can I upgrade 7.04 to 7.10 using the 7.10 cd?  How do I do it?
[03:10] <Lerris> supports more memory, a little faster
[03:10] <suupaabaka> gutsy is great
[03:10] <oxeimon> wastrel: The label? Do you mean the Mount Point?
[03:10] <paradizelost> numus: do you happen to have the Nvidia Geforce 8800 series?
[03:10] <NemesisD> paradizelost, wish somebody would have let me in on that tip when i was setting it up
[03:10] <RoC_MasterMind> biggahed, your not reading it correctly
[03:10] <MenZa> !alternate | Smegzor
[03:10] <RoC_MasterMind> I said the 2nd line
[03:10] <ubotu> Smegzor: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:10] <RoC_MasterMind> free -m
[03:10] <numus> paradizelost no pny vetro fx 5500
[03:10] <wastrel> oxeimon: sure ,mount point if that's what it says :]
[03:10] <racarter> back
[03:10] <mark_> Kelley, 'dd' may work, with a syntax similiar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)#Examples    Because it's so low level, it really doesn't care much about the file system.
[03:10] <racarter> my sound card is not working...
[03:11] <NemesisD> paradizelost, so is it most likely that these left unconfigured errors will just ruin the system?
[03:11] <racarter> and i dont know how to fix it
[03:11] <MenZa> K3nto: Could you try creating a directory for test mounting, e.g. /media/wintest? (sudo mkdir /media/wintest)
[03:11] <oxeimon> wastrel: Right now the mount point is "/media/sda2"
[03:11] <mark_> Kelley: Still I might make an second backup of critical documents separately.
[03:11] <|neon|> ipblock does not install on gutsy because of libnfnetlink1 any suggestions
[03:11] <peepsalot> damn this upgrade is gonna take forever.  already been going 3 hours, says there's 6 more to go
[03:11] <mr_wang> why the hell does it take ubuntu 20 minits to start ? i just upgraded?
[03:11] <thedefender> does this channel now support gutsy
[03:11] <slyder> i'm trying to run a patch for frozen bubble so i can play the old version 1.0 instead of the new version, how do i run the patch? and do i do it before i compile it?
[03:11] <eugo> what program shows cpu temp etc?
[03:11] <geirha> Smegzor: you can add the cd as a repository, but most of the packages will still be downloaded from the net afaik
[03:11] <MenZa> Yes, thedefender
[03:11] <jimmacdonald> anyone?
[03:11] <nibsa1242b> Burlynn: the problem is I can't seem to find a more up to date link
[03:11] <mark_> Kelley: another option may be creating a dual boot system (at least for now) and leaving Windows intact for a bit.
[03:11] <Kelley> mark_: Yeah, thats probably a good idea. In fact, I may just abandon the idea of cloning the drive in the first place. Cloning seems abit complicated for me right now
[03:11] <paradizelost> thedefender: gutsy is final, so yes
[03:11] <Burlynn> nibsa1242b, same here
[03:11] <racarter> sound card?
[03:11] <biggahed> RoC_MasterMind, it is the second line, if you count the labels like total used etc. Is this what you meant? -/+ buffers/cache:        859       1154
[03:11] <numus> anyone know why the nvidia drivers are not working for me.. if i switch to them it reverts to the vesa drivers
[03:11] <XXer> Iv tried all the suggestions but non have worked could someone tell me what (./configure ) in line No.3 of the install instructions mean 1. tar -xzvf scourge-XX.tar.gz
[03:11] <XXer> 2. cd scourge-XX
[03:11] <XXer> 3. ./configure
[03:11] <XXer> 4. make
[03:11] <XXer> 5. ./src/scourge
[03:12] <geirha> Smegzor: at least that was my experience going from 6.10 to 7.04
[03:12] <Kelley> mark_: Yeah, thats what I am planning on doing. I just want to have my Backup incase the partitioner screws up my disk
[03:12] <|neon|> eugo: you need lm sensors then you can use like ksensors if kde and for gnom eii dunno
[03:12] <racarter> can i use dmesg to find out what kind of sound card i have?
[03:12] <K3nto> MenZa: kk i made it
[03:12] <eugo> kk thx
[03:12] <racarter> dmesg by itself gives me a lot of info..
[03:12] <MenZa> racarter: lspci
[03:12] <paradizelost> XXer: read the README file in the folder
[03:12] <wastrel> oxeimon: that's probably where it mounted for th e install process ?  i haven't done the gusty installer
[03:12] <thedefender> i am running the beta, and have not received any updates since it was made final, or 2 days prior to it being made final
[03:12] <paradizelost> racarter: either dmesg or lspci
[03:12] <wastrel> racarter: try lspci
[03:12] <mark_> Kelley, ask the user about the critical doucments and files they care about... and maybe do a special export of e-mail. Often, the files people are really care about are a fraction the size of the whole drive.
[03:12] <thedefender> is this something to do with the repos
[03:12] <MenZa> K3nto: Right, now try sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/wintest && ls /media/wintest
[03:12] <nibsa1242b> ok, I feel dumb, but now everytime I hit a key to type in this window my internal pc speaker is beeping. how do I turn that off?
[03:13] <racarter> i am pretty sure the sound card is built into the system board
[03:13] <numus> paradizelost: any idea?
[03:13] <Kelley> mark_: Yeah, its really my Mom and Dads computer. All they really care about is their iTunes library, documents and quicken
[03:13] <racarter> i dont know if lspci says anything about sound.. i am not seeing it right now
[03:13] <paradizelost> numus: about?
[03:13] <RoC_MasterMind> biggahed, yeah the first number on the 2nd line is how much it's using.  the first line is actual physical use, which should be as close to using all of your RAM as possible.  My system uses 292 MB of RAM right now...yours looks like 859MB...which is a lot.
[03:13] <K3nto> MenZa: ok, i can see SOME of the folders that were on my C drive, but some are missing. uh-oh lol
[03:13] <numus> paradizelost: why my video card isn't working
[03:13] <Lerris> if you want to backup a drive, i tend to use something like 'tar cfvz backup.tar.gz .' when in the directory to be backed up
[03:13] <paradizelost> Kelley: then you probably want to dualboot
[03:13] <mark_> Kelley: And email. :) (unless htey have web-based email)
[03:13] <paradizelost> numus: did you say you ARE running an 8800 series?
[03:14] <numus> paradizelost:  no 5500
[03:14] <MenZa> K3nto: Ubuntu shouldn't have changed anything, unless you specifically told it to.
[03:14] <Lerris> or alternatively have that backup file on your removable drive.
[03:14] <paradizelost> numus: then i couldn't tell ya atm
[03:14] <XXer> There is no readme file
[03:14] <mark_> Kelley: I switched my dad (age 60) to Linux and Gmail from Windows and AOL. He's sticking with it.  It can work!
[03:14] <racarter> i am very impressed with gnome so far by the way
[03:14] <MenZa> K3nto: try sudo umount /dev/sda2 && sudo mount /dev/sda3 -t ntfs /media/wintest && ls /media/wintest
[03:14] <K3nto> MenZa: I could have lol. anyway, lets continue. i backed up important things
[03:14] <numus> paradizelost: when i use the nvidia drivers.. and restart x it goes to the vesa drivers
[03:14] <IntuitiveNipple> Kelley: if the drives are the same size (I think you said), then open a terminal (Applications/Accessories) and then do "dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY" (where X & Y are your internal and external drives) - this will copy the *entire* drive image including Master Boot Record and partition table, and all partitions
[03:14] <paradizelost> XXer: what is this that you are trying to get support for here?
[03:14] <paradizelost> what program?
[03:14] <racarter> looks nice... i still hate that toolbar on the top of the screen though