[20:58] <mrAlmond> Hi everyone
[20:58] <ubuntu_____> no i want to use btfs with lzo
[20:58] <nca> i7c: yes indeed, however across multiple broswers, getting the same issues. i.e. on newegg.com, the login tab is missing all texts and links
[20:58] <int19h> anternat: did you try apt-get -f ?
[20:58] <mrAlmond> I've just upgraded to 12.04 LTS
[20:58] <JessicaW> deranged_: nope. Not sure how to do that. One sec. let me google.
[20:58] <anternat> i didnt int19h
[20:59] <mrAlmond> but my pc stops at "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[20:59] <i7c> nca: what about other pages? like irc webchats etc... and are you sure you didn't disable js?
[20:59] <n1> josefnpat, is it possible at all to bridge from ubuntu to wifi adapter built in a laptop through vmware? I am using usb
[20:59] <mrAlmond> this is very bad
[20:59] <n1> ...usb stick to connect to net
[20:59] <anternat> int19h the msg says tcl is already at last version
[20:59] <josefnpat> ni, in virtualbox one can choose what network adapters to use
[21:00] <nca> i7c: it's odd, some js elements seem to be working, but quite a few aren't, this is off a fresh install of 12.04, the only things migrated were .bashrc and google chrome settings
[21:00] <mrAlmond> how to fix "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[21:00] <int19h> anternat: then it's installed
[21:00] <i7c> nca: mhm dunno, sounds to me like it's the page's fault and not your os ;)
[21:00] <zocky> anybody else have dead keyboard and mouse after upgrading to 12.04?
[21:01] <anternat> ok int19h letme proceed with egg
[21:01] <nca> i7c: I thought it could be, but it's across multiple pages, amazon.com, newegg primarily
[21:02] <finish06> what command in terminal shows me all of my harddrives and partitions?
[21:02] <toto__> how to disable proprietary display driver ?
[21:02] <beandog> finish06: fdisk -l
[21:02] <i7c> nca: very weird. maybe it's a connection issue and js can't load contents with ajax?
[21:02] <Surlent777> toto__: "Restricted Drivers" in the System menu
[21:02] <finish06> beandog, thz
[21:02] <toto__> Surlent777, using command line
[21:03] <Surlent777> toto__: no clue then, sorry
[21:03] <n1> josefnpat: thx for the info as I am a bit confused after info on some forum that it was not posslible via vmware
[21:03] <i7c> nca: are you using some kind of proxy?
[21:03] <jfreak53> finish06: also df -h for mounted ones
[21:03] <beandog> finish06: blkid is helpful too
[21:03] <nca> i7c: perhaps.... I was running 12.04 beta on my work machine without issues, and 11.10 was doing odd things at home
[21:03] <nca> i7c: I was, but just bypassed it as part of the troubleshooting
[21:03] <Surlent777> toto__: maybe try to apt-get remove all packages with nvidia or ati in the name?
[21:03] <finish06> jfreak53, beandog thanks!!  I am just needing to add some external drives to my /etc/fstab so they auto mount
[21:03] <nca> i7c: was running squid3 on the home server
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: add them as UUIDs, not device names
[21:04] <mrAlmond> guys what about "Stopping system v runlevel compatibility"
[21:04] <jfreak53> finish06: then fdisk was right
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: iow, use blkid
[21:04] <finish06> beandog, why?  what is the benefit?
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: in case device names change, it uses the disk ID
[21:04] <int19h> this is kind of odd.... ive changed the default media player to vlc everywhere i can find, but when ever i navigate to a DVD it still says "open movie player"
[21:04] <i7c> nca: well could be a proxy issue, try without
[21:04] <beandog> finish06: er, partition ID
[21:04] <finish06> kk thz
[21:04] <toto__> Surlent777, maybe you have not seen my first question : i can not use my computer after installing proprietary display drivers so i would like to disable them using a live usb disk to boot on
[21:05] <jfreak53> finish06: think of it as a finger print made by the OS, it won't change it
[21:05] <Surlent777> toto__: you'll have to chroot to your hard drive and then you can try to remove the packages
[21:05] <finish06> jfreak53, awe3some!
[21:05] <beandog> finish06: You can also label your partitions if you want
[21:05] <Surlent777> toto__: I don't recall 100% how to do that, but I know I've seen guides via google that explain how to do such a thing.
[21:05] <beandog> finish06: if that helps you keep track of em
[21:05] <JessicaW> deranged_: got this error with d5: SPNEGO login failed:
[21:05] <toto__> ok, i will try this way, thanks Surlent777
[21:05] <finish06> no, not interesting in keeping track of them.  i only use them to serve out media, so no really concern with them.
[21:05] <beandog> finish06: anyway, yah.  uuid is good enough
[21:06] <Surlent777> toto__: good luck; hope that helps
[21:06] <toto__> :)
[21:06] <lago0n> Most definitely, wasn't the wisest time for me.  Oh well.
[21:06] <i7c> nca: consider using vpn instead of proxy... much better :P
[21:08] <Surlent777> okay, so now my question is: how do I remove a package when dpkg/apt-get are complaining about everything being broken? I apparently can't fix this without removing a package, but I'm not allowed to remove the package.
[21:09] <Tux> Surlent777, can you paste the error
[21:09] <Surlent777> Tux: sure can, one momemt
[21:10] <Surlent777> moment even
[21:10] <JessicaW> why is ls showing me a directory as "d?????????   ? ?     ?                 ?                ? backup"
[21:11] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:12] <branduren> is it possible to change the keys for switching desktop in gnome3 ? (I have already tried changing it at 'system settings'->'keyboard'->'shortcut' - Didn't work)
[21:13] <linuxuz3r> hi
[21:13] <linuxuz3r> is it safe to upgrade
[21:14] <zocky> linuxuz3r: depends
[21:14] <Tux> linuxuz3r, mostly
[21:14] <gogeta> linuxuz3r: yea mirrors are slow and upgrades sometimes go wrong
[21:14] <zocky> which means "no"
[21:14] <zocky> gogeta: i doubt that was my problem
[21:15] <Tux> Your best luck is a backup and complete reinstall
[21:15] <gogeta> zocky: ?
[21:15] <gogeta> Tux: i always had good luck after the mirrors where not laggy
[21:15] <Surlent777> Tux: http://pastebin.com/FKeJ0DfY
[21:15] <zocky> gogeta: it finished upgrading (I think), then it crashed on alt-tab, and now keyboard and mouse don't work anymore
[21:15] <zocky> i get the login screen but can't login
[21:16] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:16] <gogeta> zocky: does it work in bash
[21:16] <zocky> gogeta: i can't get to bash
[21:16] <Tux> gogeta, I upgraded via mirrors.kernel.org
[21:16] <gogeta> zocky: are you shure its not frozen
[21:16] <zocky> gogeta: the clock keeps working, the caret keeps blinking
[21:16] <finish06> beandog, ... where should I moutn them too??  /?
[21:17] <zocky> the mouse pointer doesn't move, keyboard doesn't react to num-lock
[21:17] <zocky> the mouse led is continually on
[21:17] <gogeta> zocky: try letting it boot without them plugged in
[21:17] <zocky> gogeta: i have tried that
[21:17] <Surlent777> Tux: just noticed a mistake; I copied part of it by hand because the system is being a little weird; ${PackageSec} should read ${PackageSpec}
[21:17] <Tux> I see.
[21:17] <Surlent777> Tux: but either way, I'm caught in a loop
[21:18] <zocky> now it's gone into power save, so the monitor is off
[21:18] <gogeta> zocky: have you tryed failsafe mode in cli mode
[21:18] <zocky> gogeta: how?
[21:18] <gogeta> zocky: so x does not load
[21:18] <Tux> Surlent777, is your HDD on the verge of failing?
[21:18] <Surlent777> Tux: nope
[21:18] <Tux> okay
[21:18] <Surlent777> Tux: I rather doubt that would have anything to do with it though
[21:18] <gogeta> zocky: exc at grub slect the recovery kernel a menu should apper slect command line
[21:18] <gogeta> esc
[21:18] <Tux> sometimes it can
[21:19] <zocky> gogeta: i don't think there's a grub menu. i'll try escape after bios
[21:19] <gogeta> zocky: from there if the keybord works you can reconfigure x
[21:19] <gogeta> zocky: its there just hidden unless you press esc
[21:20] <Surlent777> Tux: either way, basically I can't continue with this package here, and yet I can't remove it because it being there interrupted everything and the system is considered "broken" and has to be fixed first. It's like a paradox.
[21:20] <jeinor> ok, so I upgraded to Precise, downloaded the manager for setting compiz settings (compizconfig-settings-manager), checked the option "Unredirect fullscreen window"
[21:20] <Tux> SuBmUnDo, try using dpkg to remove it?
[21:20] <jeinor> this made tearing issues go away in XBMC (as it did in Ubuntu 11.10)
[21:20] <N3M35I5> anyone know how i can restart all my centovacast streams at once?
[21:20] <jeinor> but it also made compiz crash after reboot, and now I can't get back into compiz
[21:21] <jeinor> anyone have any idea?
[21:21] <zocky> hmmm, interesting
[21:21] <gogeta> zocky: failsafe worked?
[21:21] <Tux> Surlent777, even
[21:21] <Tux> try using dpkg to remove it?
[21:21] <zocky> gogeta: i managed to get to the grub menu, but keyboard still didn't work. then I plugged it out and back in and it now works, in grub menu
[21:21] <zocky> i haven't gone on yet
[21:22] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:22] <rebe> can I save program window position, so it starts in the same place every time ?
[21:22] <gogeta> zocky: lol do you have windows on hiobernate
[21:22] <gogeta> zocky: that will couse strange behaver
[21:23] <Tux> anyway, I have a quick question
[21:23] <zocky> gogeta: no, no windows on the machine
[21:23] <Surlent777> Tux: no dice. Whines about the blank line in 'Description'
[21:23] <zocky> gogeta: i chose "recovery mode", and the result is the same as before
[21:23] <gogeta> zocky: it didnt show a menu
[21:23] <zocky> no
[21:24] <gogeta> zocky: sounds like a power magment issue
[21:24] <Tux> Surlent777, paste the output of sudo grep -A 20 lexmark-08z-series-driver
[21:24] <pipegeek> Is there any way to force debian-installer to drop you to a shell, during a serial install?
[21:25] <bucky> pipegeek, Ctl Alt F2 or F3
[21:25] <ThinkT510> pipegeek: perhaps ask in #debian , ubuntu uses ubiquity
[21:25] <zocky> i guess I should try an older kernel, but will that work?
[21:25] <gogeta> zocky: i think some configuring didnt compleate
[21:25] <pipegeek> ThinkT510: Not on the server installer it doesn't, does it?
[21:25] <Tux> ThinkT510, that's for graphical Ubuntu
[21:26] <pipegeek> ThinkT510: At least, preseed seems to work the same way
[21:26] <Tux> this is text-mode Ubuntu install
[21:26] <zocky> gogeta: yeah, i suspect the same
[21:26] <pipegeek> bucky: not for serial.  That's only if you have physical access and can switch to a different console.  Over serial there's only one console
[21:26] <gogeta> zocky: if you can somehow send the command sudo dpkg --configure -a4
[21:26] <ThinkT510> pipegeek: ah, sorry didn't know you were asking regarding server
[21:26] <gogeta> 1no 4
[21:26] <gogeta> zocky: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:26] <pipegeek> I may ask in #debian, but I try to avoid asking questions there about ubuntu
[21:26] <Surlent777> Tux: that command seems to be taking a long time. Is that normal?
[21:26] <ddelony> Just curious, is it possible to use USB for a serial console?
[21:26] <gogeta> zocky: over ssh or something
[21:26] <bucky> pipegeek, screen ?
[21:27] <pipegeek> bucky: huh?
[21:27] <beandog> how in the world does ubuntu software center use half a gig of memory
[21:27] <int19h> %s/screen/tmux/
[21:27] <Tux> Surlent777, the file is large, so it's nirmal
[21:27] <ThinkT510> beandog: badly, thats how
[21:27] <Boreeas> Whats the advantage of building programs yourself versus installing them from the apt repo?
[21:27] <pipegeek> bucky: err, is screen available in the initrd that the server installer runs from?
[21:27] <pipegeek> I didn't think it was
[21:27] <int19h> screen hasn't been updated for years, tmux is a much better alternative for a terminal multiplexer
[21:27] <deranged_> JessicaW, that SPNEGO seems related to choosing the authentication type, maybe try adding sec=ntlm to -o
[21:27] <pipegeek> and I'm not sure how I'd launch it
[21:27] <bucky> pipegeek, maybe not
[21:27] <pipegeek> bucky: I don't think so
[21:27] <Surlent777> Boreeas: can be optimized for your architecture, or have certain things customized, or simply be a newer version
[21:28] <pipegeek> thanks for the suggestion!
[21:28] <JessicaW> deranged_: Ahhh. I didn't think of that. let me try it.
[21:28] <Boreeas> Surlent777: Ah, I see, thanks
[21:28] <Killuacba> Hi... can some 1 helpme? im just trying ubuntu (my first time using linux :$) and i cant install ubuntu... im using an older version cause ive a old laptop... the install freezes when "detecting filesystem"
[21:28] <finish06> I need help setting some external hdd to auto-mount plz
[21:28] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:28] <gogeta> zocky: that should finish anything it didnt compleate
[21:28] <zocky> gogeta: no ssh it seems (i thought I had it running, but apparently not)
[21:28] <JessicaW> deranged_: nope. same problem.
[21:29] <zocky> or maybe it didn't get configured
[21:29] <int19h> gnome-shell extensions?
[21:29] <gogeta> zocky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965893
[21:29] <gogeta> zocky: how to do it from live cd
[21:29] <ddelony> Boreeas: Not necessary unless there's some functionality you really want that isn't compiled into the binary version.
[21:29] <Bender> can you help me setting up a remote controller hotkeys in ubuntu?
[21:29] <gogeta> zocky: yea that comand will finish it
[21:29] <zocky> gogeta: thanks for the link. I'm already downloading it.
[21:30] <Killuacba> Hi... can some 1 helpme? im just trying ubuntu (my first time using linux :$) and i cant install ubuntu... im using an older version cause ive a old laptop... the install freezes when "detecting filesystem"
[21:30] <deranged_> JessicaW, sorry im not much help, all my file shares come from samba boxes
[21:30] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | Killuacba
[21:30] <mrAlmond> guys what about issues with intel graphics on ubuntu 12.04
[21:31] <spartan2276> How can I install gnome-shell-user-theme? When I try to install it It says it can't because it depends on gnome-shell-extensions which is already installed
[21:31] <mrAlmond> I can't boot
[21:31] <JessicaW> deranged_: thanks for trying... it's a real bear.
[21:31] <finish06> I need help auto-mount some hdd partitions on ubuntu 12.04 plz
[21:31] <JessicaW> deranged_: know any way to roll back to previous version of samba after an ubdate?
[21:31] <gogeta> mrAlmond: intels supoorts linux
[21:32] <int19h> the problem is not with samba, its with windows xp. its WAY past EOL
[21:32] <gogeta> int19h: xp is not eol still supported
[21:33] <int19h> 2k and xp are eol
[21:33] <wart___> sudo joe /etc/sudoers
[21:33] <gogeta> int19h: xp does not like seeing samba shares but if you type the ip by hand in most cases it works
[21:33] <auronandace> xpsp3 is supported until 2014
[21:33] <zocky> gogeta: hey, I managed to log in with one of the old kernels and am running dpkg --recofnigure now. thanks for your help.
[21:33] <spacebug-> wart___: that file should only be edited using command visudo
[21:33] <int19h> oh they extended it again
[21:33] <Audr> Hello everyone, can someone tell me why when using the command 'sudo apt-get update' my connection just hangs? I get this: 0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[21:34] <Audr> idk what that IP is
[21:34] <gogeta> zocky: is it configuring ALOT OF STUFF
[21:34] <Killuacba> Hi... can some 1 helpme? im just trying ubuntu (my first time using linux :$) and i cant install ubuntu... im using an older version cause ive a old laptop... the install freezes when "detecting filesystem"
[21:34] <int19h> to april 8th 2014.... *smh*
[21:34] <zocky> gogeta: yeah
[21:34] <Surlent777> Audr: could mean whatever that IP is pointing to is down
[21:34] <gogeta> zocky: thats where you failed then :)
[21:34] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:34] <Audr> Surlent777, how do I get rid of the IP and have it point to the main servers
[21:34] <phpN00b> how do I upgrade from beta2 to the stable release?
[21:34] <Surlent777> Audr: I don't think you understand how an IP works. That site is possibly down, period
[21:35] <L3mce> EXTENDED support. Mainstream support ended 2009.
[21:35] <gogeta> Audr: in the update manager and settings
[21:35] <Audr> Surlent777, it causes all install from apt-get to hang
[21:35] <DJones> !final | phpN00b
[21:35] <zocky> gogeta: yeah, it seems that the unity3d alt-tab crashing bug applies to my system, and I triggered it while it was configuring the upgrade
[21:35] <Surlent777> Audr: it's going to do that, yeah
[21:35] <Audr> gogeta, where in the settings
[21:35] <Surlent777> Audr: and what site IS verifiably down from my end as well
[21:35] <Gallomimia> Audr i don't think the standard apt sources are on a 24.* address are they?
[21:36] <Audr> I have no idea Gallomimia . I don't remember putting in a proxy
[21:36] <Surlent777> I suspect it might be getdeb
[21:36] <Surlent777> checking now
[21:36] <Gallomimia> shouldn't it be looking at something with a domain name?
[21:36] <Audr> yes
[21:36] <Audr> doing 'echo $http_proxy' prints out a newline
[21:37] <Surlent777> okay, maybe not
[21:37] <Audr> well, a empty space rather
[21:37] <Gallomimia> well read /etc/sources
[21:37] <sebsebseb__> bye
[21:37] <sebsebseb__> bye
[21:37] <Audr> check for the IP in there Gallomimia ?
[21:37] <int19h> what are some major changes in the new lts version ?
[21:37] <Gallomimia> just read it and figure out what it SHOULD be
[21:37] <int19h> i dont see any difference between it and 11.10
[21:37] <Audr> ._.
[21:38] <Audr> Gallomimia, are you talking about sources.list ?
[21:38] <Gallomimia> just understand how sources and apt work. if you get software from an untrusted source, you can rest assured it will do something harmful to your system.
[21:39] <phibxr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SmNPjMcRQ <- Live Q&A with Ubuntu-people!
[21:39] <krobertson> anyone experienced IO errors on precise under paravirtualized xen (using XenServer)?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/950921/ is the errors I'm getting
[21:39] <Surlent777> Audr: this 24.* seems to be a proxy. You can't use a proxy as a repository in sources.list.
[21:40] <Audr> Surlent777, yah I saw that it was a proxy. I don't know how to get rid of it
[21:40] <Surlent777> Audr: if it's in your sources.list, just open it up in a text editor, find it, and delete it
[21:40] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:40] <solexious> my server upgrade to 12.04 quit during, how can I restart it?
[21:40] <Surlent777> Audr: if it's a network setting, look at your network applet and see if it's in there somewhere
[21:40] <Audr> Surlent777, I doubt it is.  The versions are marked by the year and month
[21:41] <Surlent777> Audr: if it's listed as a proxy of some sort in your network applet settings
[21:41] <Surlent777> Audr: or really at all
[21:41] <Audr> what file is that
[21:41] <Youssef_KH> peolpe help i forgot my password on ubuntu 12 lts
[21:41] <Gallomimia> what i mean is there's no 12.05 12.06 12.07
[21:41] <Youssef_KH> ???? help me
[21:41] <Surlent777> Gallomimia: ah okay
[21:42] <Gallomimia> the next version is scheduled for x and it's version number will be x
[21:42] <rebe> is it possible to use drive letters in terminal instead of "/media/sda*/" ?
[21:42] <Gallomimia> there are no letters.
[21:42] <Gallomimia> maybe you want to mount them as /c/ and /d
[21:42] <Gallomimia> or name it whatever you like
[21:42] <Gallomimia> read man mount
[21:42] <vantage> Hi all, having a small small issues with 12.04 at the moment. 1) avahi complains about having a .local domain on login. Not sure how to change/update that
[21:42] <Audr> Surlent777, what file would the network applet settings be in
[21:42] <Gallomimia> !mount::rebe
[21:42] <Surlent777> Audr: if you're in X/GNOME/Unity/whatever there should be a network applet in your system tray, or up in the corner, or something. Else, try looking under System in the main menu and look for network settings
[21:43] <Youssef_KH> you can assign to a global variable in shell
[21:43] <vantage> and 2) On one machine where the time should be, I just get the word "Time"
[21:43] <Audr> kk
[21:43] <Gallomimia> i think i know nothing about the robot
[21:43] <Audr> brb then
[21:43] <ghost_> Hi everyone i have a issue is it possable to install xorg from ubuntu 10.10 into 12.04 since it is the only one that detects my proper screen resoulution and needed settings for my lcd tv
[21:43] <Youssef_KH> liek C=/media/sd1
[21:43] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:43] <Surlent777> rebe: the letters thing is a relic of MS-DOS. Unix-like systems using a different naming scheme
[21:43] <Gallomimia> ghost_: i should think your concern would be a bug report over the newer versions of softwares breaking your working system.
[21:44] <deranged_> JessicaW, maybe try all the sec= options in man mount,cifs and also --verbose? also isnt there an event log on the winxp side you could check?
[21:44] <Audr> Surlent777, nothing in the Network Settings area. No proxy that is turned on.
[21:44] <JessicaW> deranged_: haha. Great minds think alike. I'm trying the sec= options now.
[21:44] <rebe> gallomimia: not sure I understand, surlent777: maybe, but it's shorter :)
[21:44] <Audr> what is the grep command to search through the whole system for the IP
[21:45] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it?
[21:45] <ghost_> well its been through out the last few versions of ubuntu so i stayed wih 10.10 but its discontinued now so i am in a predictament because i always use that system for all my media
[21:45] <Gallomimia> rebe: it's possible to control where things are mounted, and name the exact directory and file names each drive is mounted at
[21:45] <Surlent777> Tux: seriously that command is still running this can't be right
[21:45] <Tux> hmm
[21:45] <Gallomimia> for example some people mount /boot and /home on different drives
[21:46] <Killuacba> O.o.... nice... i will try it... xD thx a lot ^^
[21:46] <gogeta> ghost_: you shold be able to upgrade it
[21:47] <acicula> ghost_: you are not able to set the resolution manually?
[21:48] <Surlent777> Tux: what is "grep -A 20 lexmark-08z-series-driver" supposed to find? Maybe we can cut to the chase some other way
[21:48] <Audr> Surlent777, is there any where else a proxy would be stored in? I checked in /etc/environment and it wasnt there
[21:48] <Gallomimia> !mount->rebe
[21:48] <Surlent777> Audr: I never tried to use one, so I'm not sure. :/
[21:48] <Tux> Surlent777, what dpkg thinks it is
[21:49] <Tux> There might be a syntax error...
[21:49] <Audr> Surlent777, lol. Problem is, I don't remember putting in a proxy
[21:49] <ghost_> i tryed upgrading before 10.10s life ended and it left me with the problem from up above and ive tryed a few different ways even useing xrandr cvt and gft but no avail because the resoulutionis 1360x768 i want to upgrade but idk if theres a way to generate my old xorg config and use it on the new set up or what
[21:49] <solid_liq> anyone know the name of that tool that will automatically check through available mirrors for your apt repository and select the fastest one?
[21:49] <Surlent777> Audr: could it perhaps be a setting in your router?
[21:49] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it? Can at least give me a response whether i m the only one with that problem or not?
[21:49] <Audr> maybe, i dont mess with the network. someone else might have
[21:50] <Audr> Surlent777, how would i check?
[21:50] <Surlent777> Audr: if you know your router's IP address (often something like <IP_ADDRESS>, usually on a sticker on the router itself) and the user name and password for it, you may be able to check it through a web browser
[21:50] <meganerd> Audr: I just popped in, did you check to see if a shell variable was set?
[21:51] <Surlent777> meganerd: he tried echo $http_proxy
[21:51] <Audr> ^
[21:51] <Audr> It printed out a blank space
[21:51] <bc``> hallo
[21:51] <Audr> http proxy in /etc/environment is empty
[21:51] <bc``> i have a strange question that i am almost certain has not been asked before here
[21:51] <bc``> is it possible to put one monitor to sleep, but not the other one?
[21:52] <deranged_> use the power button?
[21:52] <Surlent777> Tux: I think locate might be helpful here. I got an instant list of things, including 5 hits in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[21:52] <bc``> i mean programmatically
[21:52] <Audr> meganerd, do you know the command to search the whole system for that IP ?
[21:52] <Tux> hmm
[21:52] <Tux> afk
[21:53] <machiolate> *** NEW UBUNTU RELEASE OUT ***
[21:53] <meganerd> Audr: grep -r x.x.x.x /
[21:53] <rfm> bc'' try xset dpms force off with DISPLAY set to :0.0 or :0.1
[21:54] <meganerd> Audr: grep -r x.x.x.x /*
[21:54] <Surlent777> micromatikal: I think we're all aware, but thanks
[21:54] <Audr> meganerd, whats up with adding the '*' ?
[21:54] <assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on 12.04 and i cannot install any gnome-shell extensions although i ve been trying for two days. I even reinstalled from different  image with no luck. can someone help me out of it? Can at least give me a response whether i m the only one with that problem or not?
[21:55] <meganerd> Audr: typo
[21:55] <meganerd> Audr: you also need to be root (aka use sudo)
[21:55] <dougb_freebsd> when I type 'ssh some.host' on the command line I'm not getting the good old gui password prompt, although ssh-agent and gnome-keyring are both running
[21:55] <Audr> meganerd, kk. What does -r stand for
[21:56] <dougb_freebsd> using seahorse I can see my ssh keys, and if I do 'ssh-add' on the command line it works
[21:56] <dougb_freebsd> any suggestions?
[21:56] <meganerd> Audr: if you want to get fancy and hide errors: "sudo grep -r / x.x.x.x 2> /dev/null"
[21:56] <meganerd> Audr: recursive
[21:56] <meganerd> Audr: grep --help
[21:56] <nannes> Why the installation process of the new Ubuntu Precise Pangolin does not ask me If I wanna do Manual partitioning?
[21:56] <Audr> meganerd, I wonder how long this scan will take
[21:57] <deranged_> a long time
[21:57] <Audr> deranged_, 30min long time?
[21:57] <Audr> or like a 'I love you long time' long time
[21:57] <Surlent777> I have now looked at dpkg's status file, and it's whining that there's a blank line, so I put a period on the blank line, and now it's still whining that there's a blank line.
[21:58] <deranged_> will depend on your system, how many files is it openeing to look for that text?
[21:58] <meganerd> Audr: depends on the size and speed of the disks, as well as the performance of the PC
[21:58] <Audr> deranged_, everything
[21:58] <Audr> meganerd, ah kk
[21:58] <deranged_> i would probably try in /etc first before i did in /
[21:58] <Audr> I should have hid errors..
[21:58] <meganerd> Audr: deranged_was more accurate, a 5 terabyte disk or array that is empty will be fast :)
[21:59] <Audr> maybe I should stop it now and check /etc/ first like he said
[21:59] <meganerd> Audr: yes I would start in /etc and your home folder before scanning the whole disk
[21:59] <Audr> kk stoped
[21:59] <Surlent777> okay, re-adjusting it slightly now works, now I have a new error
[21:59] <Surlent777> but I may be on the right track
[21:59] <Audr> stopped*
[21:59] <Surlent777> ON WITH THE HUNT
[21:59] <Bender> any help with key binding in ubuntu 12.04?
[22:00] <mrAlmond> I've intel hd gma
[22:00] <JessicaW> deranged_: hey, when I enable --verbose, shows me that the password is being encrypted. anyway to do this in plain text? pass=********
[22:00] <mrAlmond> and ubuntu 12.04 just updated does not work
[22:00] <meganerd> Audr: you could also use lsof to make sure that you are actually connecting to a proxy "sudo lsof -i:80,8080,3128"
[22:00] <mrAlmond> is there someone who can help me??
[22:01] <Surlent777> ha, it's working!
[22:01] <Audr> meganerd,  kk. it found it in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:01] <CJKay> FFFFFFFFUUUUUU Just spent half an hour installing the Teamviewer deb only for it to come up with THIS at the VERY last second:
[22:01] <CJKay> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-4.7/libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_i386.deb 404  Not Found
[22:01] <Audr> meganerd, should i go erase?
[22:01] <meganerd> Audr: sudoedit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:02] <ximir> guys... I had some issue with this new 12.04 64bit
[22:02] <Surlent777> Tux: I know you're afk but realizing your intent led me to edit some dpkg files by hand, eliminating "blank spaces" that were unwelcome by inserting a period. Things are progressing now. Thanks for the help.
[22:02] <dougb_freebsd> mrAlmond: can you say a little more about the problem you're having?
[22:02] <meganerd> Audr: it is a shame I was not here earlier, that is the first place I would have had you look
[22:02] <Tux> yw ;)
[22:02] <meganerd> Audr: I should have read the entire history, sorry about that
[22:02] <Corey> CJKay: libgomp1_4.7.0-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[22:02] <JessicaW> anyone know how to keep mount.cifs from encrypting passwords?
[22:02] <Audr> meganerd, Tell me why it was also in /etc/environment
[22:02] <Corey> Er, whoops.
[22:02] <CJKay> Corey: I can't change that, it's what TeamViewer wants to install
[22:02] <Audr> meganerd, i dont know what specific files do what
[22:02] <Audr> meganerd, and should I set that to "" ?
[22:02] <Corey> Interesting, no 32 bit version available.
[22:02] <CJKay> Installing the deb through the software centre
[22:03] <CJKay> Gahhhh
[22:03] <meganerd> Audr: in apt.conf just delete the whole line
[22:03] <CJKay> What a waste of time and precious bandwidth
[22:03] <deranged_> JessicaW, i thought winxp does encrypt passwords?
[22:03] <Audr> meganerd, now should I clean or try the apt-get update
[22:04] <dougb_freebsd> ... meanwhile still looking for help with my ssh-agent problem if someone has a chance
[22:04] <jaxxdrew> What is there for a screensaver on 12.04?
[22:04] <JessicaW> deranged_: My feeling is, after two days of hammering at this, is that with the latest samba/winbind update on 10.04 something changed in the encryption methods and now XP can't understand it.
[22:04] <dougb_freebsd> jaxxdrew: ubuntu comes with xscreensaver enabled by default
[22:04] <Surlent777> jaxxdrew: nothing because GNOME is mean and spiteful. You can install XScreensaver though, which works nicely, even if it is ugly
[22:05] <jaxxdrew> thanks
[22:05] <CJKay> I'm not even sure why it's looking for i386 anyway. It's an amd64 system!
[22:05] <int19h> i just want my screen to shut off to save power after 10m
[22:05] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: it's not uncommon after upgrading samba that you have to recreate the password file
[22:05] <int19h> thats it
[22:05] <CJKay> Not to ention a 64-bit program too
[22:05] <Surlent777> int19h: how do you determine if there's activity on one monitor but not another? Most screensavers/power-savers look for keyboard or mouse input
[22:05] <meganerd> Audr: the apt.conf would have only set a proxy for apt/synaptic/aptitude etc., whereas the other one sets a variable that applies to all apps
[22:06] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: ohhh. how do you do that?
[22:06] <meganerd> Audr: gotta run, cheers
[22:06] <Audr> meganerd, interesting. And it works except for the Java files
[22:06] <Audr> meganerd, THANK YOU
[22:06] <Audr> you have saved a soul today
[22:06] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: also, my two others shares to windows 7 machines are working. Just not this one to XP.
[22:06] <Audr> leave knowing you have done the Linux god's work
[22:06] <meganerd> Audr: the apps still have to look for that variable
[22:06] <meganerd> Audr: most do, but there is no garuntee.
[22:06] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: smbpasswd
[22:06] <ThePendulum1> Is there a way to remove the Available/Away/Busy/etc. switches from the notification applet, without removing the entire thing?
[22:07] <Audr> kk meganerd
[22:07] <alvesjnr> hi. I created a new partition using cfdisk, and it looks okay:
[22:07] <alvesjnr> v
[22:07] <alvesjnr> /dev/sda5       443769079   447938559     2084740+  83  Linux
[22:07] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: is this for just one or two users, or lots?
[22:07] <alvesjnr> but when I do ls /dev/sda*, it is not there (??)
[22:07] <alvesjnr> any hint about what I'm doing wrong?
[22:08] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: lots.
[22:08] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: ok, that's not going to be a good solution then :)
[22:08] <dougb_freebsd> how did you get the passwords in originally?
[22:08] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: it was working fine... then installed some security updates of which winbind and samba were a part. and can no longer connect to the XP share
[22:09] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: I get that part :)
[22:09] <dougb_freebsd> .... thus my comment that it's not uncommon to need to rebuild the password file after upgrading samba
[22:09] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: sudo mount -t smbfs //WINSERVER/D /backup -o user=user,pass=password,dir_mode=0775,gid=1009,noperm
[22:09] <dougb_freebsd> how was your current password file originally created?
[22:10] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: I don't know. I wasn't here for that. I inherited this machine.
[22:10] <dougb_freebsd> Oh, so you're saying that if you execute that command line, it no longer works?
[22:10] <int19h> JessicaW: does it mount it and you just cant write to it, or it just activly rejects it
[22:11] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: correct. I commented out fstab for now and I'm just trying to get the command to work from CLI.
[22:11] <dougb_freebsd> Ok, crank up the debug level on smbd and look in the logs
[22:11] <JessicaW> verbose shows mount error(13): Permission denied
[22:12] <JessicaW> it's a NT_AUTH_LOGIN error
[22:12] <JessicaW> but I know the credentials are correct
[22:12] <twodogs> Trying to resolve a permission issue, tried to chown /etc/bind/slave to bind user... it took for a few minutes and then reset.
[22:12] <JessicaW> or... nt login something. hang on.
[22:12] <L3top> JessicaW I take it that post was not helpful? (was away) the last most especially?
[22:12] <JessicaW> [155559.961039] Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[22:12] <JessicaW> [155559.961051]  CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
[22:12] <JessicaW> [155559.961066]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
[22:14]  * L3top calls this a bug in 1004.
[22:14] <JessicaW> L3top: Yeah, I read through it. gave me some ideas, but no. Since it's local users on that machine it didn't work.
[22:14] <int19h> is it xp home, or xp pro ?
[22:14] <JessicaW> pro
[22:14] <int19h> hrmmm
[22:14] <JessicaW> it's VERY VERY frustrating.
[22:14] <L3top> It seems to have to do with the multiple requests in the pam... oh... oh I see.... yeah, you can't edit that many files.
[22:15] <JessicaW> verbose shows "mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//WINSERVER\D$,ver=1,rw,user=user,sec=none,ip=<IP_ADDRESS>,pass=********"
[22:16] <JessicaW> which was making me guess it has something to do with the password encryption. I tried all the different sec= options from man page.
[22:16] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: yeah, I was just going to suggest that
[22:16] <dougb_freebsd> IIRC xp encrypted its passwords differently than later versions, and there used to be a knob for htat
[22:17] <int19h> are you using mount -t cifs or mount -t smbfs ?
[22:17] <JessicaW> I've tried both
[22:17] <dougb_freebsd> haven't tried dealing with an xp system for a while though, so I'm not up to speed on any changes
[22:17] <L3top> Again... it seems to do with the multiple PAM_MOUNT calls in all of the configs. To be perfectly honest, I expect this bug to be exasserbated due to networking issues. I would stress test the network and see if anything can be addressed there.
[22:17] <JessicaW> also, I don't think it's just 1004. I installed 1204 on vmware real quick and had the same problrm.
[22:18] <L3top> It is in BOTH 1004 and 1204
[22:18] <L3top> it is not in the 11s
[22:18] <JessicaW> BOTH. IKR?
[22:18] <eutheria> oh the font rendering is so much better
[22:18] <JessicaW> dunno. don't have a copy of 11.
[22:18] <eutheria> and skype follows the gtk theme! yay
[22:18] <JessicaW> I could try it. would take like... 15 mins. but, when I install samba and winbind, it's going to be the same version for all three right?
[22:19] <int19h> did you try sec=none ?
[22:19] <JessicaW> I do a clean install, then apt-get samba winbind
[22:19] <JessicaW> yep
[22:19] <JessicaW> mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//WINSERVER\D$,ver=1,rw,user=user,sec=none,ip=<IP_ADDRESS>,pass=********
[22:19] <JessicaW> (that's the verbose output)
[22:19] <ztag100> hey,
[22:19] <JessicaW> p.s. thanks to all those helping out. This is a MOST perplexing issue.
[22:20] <int19h> it is indeed
[22:20] <JessicaW> BTW, just in case any of you missed it, my windows 2008 server shares and win 7 shares are working fine.
[22:20] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: do you have admin privs on the windows box?
[22:20] <michalchik> Hey folks
[22:20] <JessicaW> yes
[22:20] <deranged_> there must have been another change, the changelog for winbind and samba doesnt look like anything relevant lately, and you said it was just after a recent upgrade correct?
[22:20] <Drone4four> i've got 6 or more windows open from my last session with chromium and now that i am using unity i have to close a window to see the next one.  how do i cycle through different browser windows in unity?
[22:20] <int19h> iscsi ;)
[22:20] <ztag100> I'm about to setup a Dual-Boot, and an idea just occured to me, is it possible to put the "home" and "users" directory on the same partition?
[22:20] <JessicaW> yeah, I installed some updates 4/17
[22:20] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: try creating a user with no password, and see if that works
[22:20] <JessicaW> one sec.
[22:21] <michalchik> I have a weird problem with my printer. Anyone good with that?
[22:21] <JessicaW> this is what I installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/951036/
[22:21] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what users directory are you referring to?
[22:21] <ztag100> Window's
[22:21] <int19h> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18986 is the answer imo.... i just dont know what else you can do
[22:21] <mierker> HEY
[22:21] <ztag100> where you store your documents, pictures, music...
[22:22] <deranged_> libpass_smbclient
[22:22] <deranged_> i bet thats the one
[22:22] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: Will take me 5 mins. I don't hsve RDP enabled on that box and I"m going to have to walk down to the lab that it's in.
[22:22] <mierker> I need help
[22:22] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: no, since the windows directory should almost certainly be ntfs, whereas your linux home directory should be ext[234]
[22:22] <harold> hi guys. I downloaded 12.04 beta 2 one week ago. What should I do now to get pu to speed?
[22:22] <ztag100> Ah, didn't think about that
[22:22] <dougb_freebsd> harold: first, download the actual release :)
[22:22] <ztag100> shoot
[22:23] <trism> !final | harold
[22:23] <int19h> harold: just apt-get update&&apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:23] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what you can do is set up a primary partition as fat32 and share it between systems
[22:23] <mierker> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:23] <mierker> I HELP!!!
[22:23] <FloodBot1> mierker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that's what I do
[22:23] <harold> I downloaded the beta2 last week... is that the "dev version"? But ok, I'll try it out, thanks!
[22:23] <taime1> is there a way to manually start notify-osd?
[22:23] <dougb_freebsd> mierker: stop shouting, and ask your question
[22:24] <mierker> I want to install ubuntu 11.10
[22:24] <n1> anyone running ubuntu on vmware?
[22:24] <dougb_freebsd> harold: it would be faster and easier for you to install the new cd
[22:24] <dougb_freebsd> n1 yes
[22:24] <dougb_freebsd> mierker: that's not a question :)
[22:24] <mierker> i do not want unity
[22:24] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: how does that work?
[22:25] <Takyoji[laptop]> For some reason my desktop freezes at gdm (no mouse/keyboard reaction), with a graphical issue, Xorg appears to have 100% CPU utilization, and Nouveau is being used, thoughts?
[22:25] <mierker> Please
[22:25] <mierker> Waht should i Do?=
[22:25] <escott> !nounity | mierker
[22:26] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: it depends on how complex you want to get .... you can manhandle windows to make d:/data/user be the user directory, but that requires editing the registry
[22:26] <mierker> thats not possible
[22:26] <mierker> Gnome shell is not good
[22:26] <mierker> The fallback i hate
[22:26] <mierker> and unity is really shit
[22:27] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you may find it easier to just organize your files on the data directory, and create shortcuts in windows, and symlinks in ubuntu
[22:27] <Lint> that´s BS, I installed gnome-shell, but it fails to run
[22:27] <mierker> no wonder
[22:27] <ztag100> I just wan't someway to have one partition for all my media and files
[22:27] <deranged_> then use kubunut or xubuntu
[22:27] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: win7 also gives you a little more flexibility in defining your libraries/folders for things like documents, photos, etc.
[22:27] <gogeta> mirak: you have other window managers
[22:27] <dlentz> mierker, so what desktop environment do you like?
[22:28] <Lint> dougb_freebsd, I doubt that you know what a shortcut is
[22:28] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: yes, that is what I'm describing
[22:28] <mierker> Gnome 2
[22:28] <gogeta> mierker: give xfce a try then
[22:28] <deranged_> lol
[22:28] <mierker> no xfce has a big reason why i dont like it
[22:28] <dlentz> if fallback doesn't work for you, then try linux mint and use MATE or Cinnamon
[22:28] <L3top> That is tough Takyoji[laptop]... out of curiosity, what is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:28] <gogeta> mierker: or mate
[22:29] <Lint> mate is unmaintained
[22:29] <taime1> how can i start notify-osd manually?
[22:29] <mierker> fallback works for me but it is not good
[22:29] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: created user with no password, verified share is set to everyone full control, anonymous login full control, and full control for that password-less users as well.
[22:29] <gogeta> Lint: sense when
[22:29] <dlentz> Lint, Mate is mainatained
[22:29] <mierker> XFCE i dont like because of the name
[22:29] <dougb_freebsd> Lint: rather than insulting my knowledge base, why don't you express your concern in a concise manner? :)
[22:29]  * L3top thinks some people need to come to grips with the fact that gnome is going away.
[22:29] <taime1> no way
[22:29] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: 05:06.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] [10de:0185] (rev c1)
[22:29] <gogeta> mierker: the name lol
[22:29] <taime1> it stays
[22:29] <taime1> gogeta: agreed.. lol
[22:29] <Kveras> Is there a way to make the Unity Launcher use the same solid color as the taskbar?
[22:29] <dlentz> mierker, then i think you're beyond help...
[22:30] <mierker> why
[22:30] <mierker> I want gnome 2
[22:30] <mierker> not others
[22:30] <gogeta> mierker: you can all it fail windows manager as long as it works well
[22:30] <dlentz> then use mate or just use lucid/10.04
[22:30] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: you can see there was no password this time from verbose output.
[22:30] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//WINSSERVER\DDrive,ver=1,rw,user=testuser,ip=<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:30] <L3top> I believe that that chipset has fallen out of support Takyoji[laptop]. You might consider the nvidia proprietary driver... which... I think is 173... I will look it up.
[22:30] <n1> dougb_freebsd: I am connecting to net via usb stick (asked me automatically when installed it to use that connection) but would like to bridge ubuntu to built in wifi adapter in latop so it can recognize wireless networks in range. Installed wicd network manager and enabled bridge in vmware and updated ubuntu. any idea?
[22:30] <Lint> dougb_freebsd, shortcuts in windows are not related to symlinks in any way
[22:31] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: did the mount work though?
[22:31] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: nope
[22:31] <jeinor> In Ubuntu 11.10, I could tick the option "Unredirect fullscreen window" and it worked after reboots. When I tick this option in 12.04, Compiz crashes on reboot. Anyone know why?
[22:31] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: still getting that same error
[22:31] <ztag100> man, I hate windows...
[22:31] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: mount error(13): Permission denied
[22:31] <JessicaW> ME TOO.
[22:31] <Lint> ok, what I should do to make gnome-shell to work on ubuntu? it works in Fedoar, it works in opensuse, but not in ubuntu for some reason
[22:31] <gogeta> Kveras: yes install the myunity app it can adjust the transparency
[22:32] <L3top> yeah Takyoji[laptop]... you will have better luck with nvidia-glx-96. It is just quite old.
[22:32] <dougb_freebsd> Lint: yes, I understand that, but functionally they do similar things, and will solve his problem
[22:32] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: that's wacky
[22:32] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: it makes NO SENSE.
[22:32] <Kveras> gogeta, I tried this. but the panel is still transparent - even at 0% transparancy. I am using the radiance theme, and I think the launcher would look best if it was the same solid color.
[22:32] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: happen to know how to remove the nouveau package as well?
[22:32] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: this is not a hard problem :)  I multi-boot my systems, and this solution works for me
[22:33] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: and, I just sent in our info to purchase canonical support for this. :|
[22:33] <L3top> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau    Takyoji[laptop]
[22:33] <selite> GRUB doesn't load I get something like FILE BOOT/BCD because I ran chkdsk on win7 what should I do?
[22:33] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: it's not cuz of that, I just REALLY don't like windows
[22:33] <taime1> how can i start notify-osd manually?
[22:33] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: thank you for your help, I'll see if it all works here in a moment
[22:34] <Lint> JessicaW, Ubuntu cannot mount shares on Windows servers
[22:34] <gogeta> selite: | !grub
[22:34] <ztag100> I'm being forced to use it (need to run a few apps and games) that are windows only
[22:34] <deranged_> JessicaW, the really annoying thing will be in the end it will turn out to be like one line on a config file or one switch in windows reg
[22:34] <gogeta> !grub
[22:34] <L3top> any time... I will be here if you have issues... make sure that on boot after install of nvidia that your xorg.conf reflects the driver change, ie replace Driver        "nouveau" with  Driver          "nvidia"  if neccesary Takyoji[laptop]
[22:35] <trism> taime1: just run it: /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd; although there isn't any reason to, since it is started automatically when someone sends a notification
[22:35] <selite> gogeta: Well too bad that my laptop can't run the CD.
[22:35] <JessicaW> deranged_: Yeah. That's kinda what I"m thinking. a $700 one line change.
[22:35] <Lint> it will turn out that Ubuntu still doesn´t support NTLM2 in 2012, despite it was introduced in Windows 2000
[22:35] <gogeta> selite: then use a usd stock
[22:35] <gogeta> usb
[22:35] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: fyi, the order I usually do things in when installing a new system is: 1. Boot ubuntu cd, use gparted to slice the disk, 2. install windows (in the first partition), 3. install ubuntu
[22:35] <mierker> does somebody has an idea
[22:35] <mierker> why ubuntu has made unity
[22:35] <JessicaW> Lint: Ubuntu can TOTALLY mount shares on windows servers.
[22:36] <gogeta> mierker: they didnt like gnome shell
[22:36] <ThePendulum1> mierker: Because Gnome 3 wasn't ready in time
[22:36] <taime1> trism: it isnt starting for some reason. thats why i want to try and run it manually
[22:36] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that will save you time and get grub installed without windows mucking it up
[22:36] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: I am not positive, but you may be able to run nvidia-xconfigure   or perhaps it is nvidia-xconfig...
[22:36] <mierker> ThePendulum1: that is not right
[22:36] <Lint> JessicaW, not on 2003+/Vista+
[22:36] <gogeta> mierker: the hate is unfounded with 12.04 its snappy does what it needs to do and stable
[22:36] <ztag100> two partitions?
[22:36] <mierker> ThePendulum1: gnome 3 was ready
[22:36] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: 3 ... one for windows, one for your data, one for ubuntu
[22:37] <gogeta> mierker: gnome 3 at launch was horrrid
[22:37] <dougb_freebsd> (actually I use a lot more than 3, but I'm keeping it simple )
[22:37] <mierker> but nothing was as horrible as units
[22:37] <ztag100> where should I put the data partition
[22:37] <mierker> but nothing was as horrible as unity
[22:37] <ThePendulum1> mierker: It wasn't ready (enough) at the time they needed to implement it and develop with it
[22:37] <aragorn5> is there a program like SineGen for Ubuntu which can sound a sine wave using a slide?
[22:37] <JessicaW> Lint: sure it will. I have two 2008 server shares, 2 windows7 shares, and 1 vista share. It's only the XP one I'm having a problem with.
[22:37] <n1> dougb_freebsd: I am connecting to net via usb stick (asked me automatically when installed it to use that connection) but would like to bridge ubuntu to built in wifi adapter in latop so it can recognize wireless networks in range.
[22:37] <gogeta> mierker: guess you forget anything pre lts is testing
[22:37] <ztag100> what order is your disk?
[22:37] <mierker> The first time you can give unity a try...is now
[22:37] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: usually it's easiest to put the data partition second, and the ubuntu partition last
[22:37] <mierker> but gnome 3 you can use since 1 year
[22:37] <n1> is it possible with vmware?
[22:38] <L3top> mierker: are you just here to complain because Ubuntu has not made the same decisions as you would have?
[22:38] <ThePendulum1> mierker: I didn't like Unity in 11.04 and 11.10, but it has improved in 12.04 and it has become more useable now. I expect it to be amazing as of 13.04
[22:38] <Sveen12> HOla
[22:38] <Sveen12> Buenos dias
[22:38] <taime1> trism: okay, that worked.. thanks
[22:38] <ztag100> alright
[22:38] <ztag100> how big should my ubuntu / partition be?
[22:38] <mierker> Canonical is such a big industrie
[22:38] <JessicaW> ok, next problem. I have a directory that shows under ls as d??????? for the attributes. sudo -i and can't chmod, chown, or rm. Suggestions?
[22:38] <dougb_freebsd> n1: I doubt it, I don't think vmware has the right stuff to allow direct access to your wifi card
[22:38] <mierker> Mark S. gives them so much money
[22:38] <Sveen12> Jmmm, Something here speak spanish?
[22:38] <gogeta> ok enough of this use it or dont thers other window managers and tons of other ubuntus
[22:38] <Sveen12> Jmmm, Something here speak spanish?????
[22:38] <gogeta> !es
[22:39] <dlentz> !ot | mierker
[22:39] <Sveen12> Gracias
[22:39] <jhartzell> I just installed 12.04 on my Lenovo and I can't get it to boot. Is this the right place to ask about that?
[22:39] <L3top> ztag100: there is not really a good answer to that...   I have a 15G partition for / and /usr, and it is only using 3 G so far ... I make it ridiculously big because I tend to install a lot of stuff, and I'm lazy about uninstalling it
[22:39] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: hey, did you see anything in this that might have caused this to break? http://paste.ubuntu.com/951036/
[22:40] <n1> dougb_freebsd: so you are also connecting via usb stick?
[22:40] <dougb_freebsd> JessicaW: I looked at that, and no
[22:40] <ztag100> Alright
[22:40] <matelot> 12.04 - Is elementary theme available ?
[22:40] <dougb_freebsd> n1: I install into vmware using the iso image
[22:40] <ThePendulum1> Is there a way to improve the splash screen resolution on start-up?
[22:40] <matelot> I can't stand the default theme
[22:40] <ThePendulum1> (In 12.04)
[22:40] <JessicaW> dougb_freebsd: thanks for looking. I didn't see anything either. But something sure caused it.
[22:40] <freebird> you guys, I've a graphic card, in ubuntu (8086:a011), in win I can go 1024x768
[22:40] <dlentz> jhartzell, do you have more info (error messages)?
[22:40] <krababbel> ztag100: you should have as much swap as you have ram too at least for hibernation.
[22:40] <freebird> not in ubuntu, what do you guys suggest ?
[22:41] <freebird> what should I do ? things are too big
[22:41] <mierker> why is this fixed??????????
[22:41] <mierker> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/776435
[22:41] <jhartzell> When I try to boot from the hard drive, nothing happens. If I reboot and then look at efibootmgr, it doesn't list ubuntu anymore.
[22:41] <gogeta> Krabbe: naa you dont need tht mutch swap to hibernate
[22:41] <mierker> bug 776435
[22:41] <Takyoji[laptop]_> Issue seems to be persist, and I've forgotten the username of the assistant. xP
[22:41] <henrybean> how do i change the systme font in 12.04?
[22:41] <jhartzell> Right now, Boot0009 says ubuntu, as I just ran the installer and am still on the liveCd.
[22:41] <L3top> freebird What driver are you using and what card is it? actually... lspci -nn | grep VGA
[22:41] <gogeta> Krabbe: around a gig is fine
[22:42] <aragorn5> Never mind. I found a Windows program which works in WINE.
[22:42] <jhartzell> But if I reboot the computer, I know that it won't boot at all, it'll fall back to PXEBoot, and if I reboot to the liveCD, it'll not show ubuntu on the list anymore.
[22:42] <cheryl_> Hi, hate to be the fly in your ointment, but how do I change dir on commandline in Ubuntu?? :)
[22:42] <mierker> ubuntu gets more and more bad
[22:42] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: issue persists, 100% CPU usage by Xorg
[22:42] <mierker> first this DE+
[22:42] <mierker> now the helping here
[22:42] <ztag100> I have a 120 GB HD, So, I'm going to have, all of windows partitions take up 60 GB, data partitions take up 30 GB, and 30 GB for ubuntu
[22:42] <freebird> L3top, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:a011]
[22:42] <ztag100> err
[22:42] <ztag100> sorry
[22:42] <Takyoji[laptop]_> and the cursor seems to be able to move, actually
[22:42] <n1> dougb_freebsd:i mean connect to internet via usb modem?
[22:42] <JessicaW> cheryl_: type cd
[22:42] <krababbel> ztag100: 30gigshould be plenty for /
[22:42] <cheryl_> JessicaW, Yes, then?
[22:42] <deranged_> am i the only one wondering if mierker lives under a bridge?
[22:42] <ztag100> 45 for data and 15 for ubuntu
[22:42] <Takyoji[laptop]_> but keyboard doesn't react at all
[22:42] <gogeta> Takyoji[laptop]_: probly need to install your video drivers or if its relly old unity 2d
[22:42] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_:  did you run nvidia-xconfig(ure)?
[22:42] <ztag100> I messed up
[22:42] <dougb_freebsd> n1: no ... I'm plugged into a router
[22:43] <ztag100> does that work?
[22:43] <JessicaW> cheryl_: for example "cd /mnt" or "cd name_of_directory" it stands for change directory.
[22:43] <krababbel> ztag100: my install currently is 12g
[22:43] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: how much ram do you have?
[22:43] <ztag100> 4
[22:43] <reonfus> Hi, i am new with Ubuntu (about 1 month). I saw in Update Manager option to update my OS to version 12.04 LTS. My question ist: if I use this option from Update Manager, will I lose any data? Or this update will be save for my files?
[22:43] <ztag100> 4gb
[22:43] <shredding> I'm new to ubuntu 12.04: How can I fade out the board on the left side when not over it with the mouse?
[22:43] <ztag100> errr.. forgot swap
[22:43] <shredding> (And how is it called so i can google for the solution myself)
[22:43] <jhartzell> I'm on a lenovo v570.
[22:43] <dougb_freebsd> ok, so 60 win, 40 data, 16 ubuntu, 4 swap
[22:43] <n1> dougb_freebsd: thx
[22:43] <ztag100> in that order?
[22:43] <dougb_freebsd> (to keep the numbers round
[22:43] <cheryl_> JessicaW, I knew that bit, but get confused between dos's \ and linux's / :)
[22:43] <mierker> Yoou can beieve me
[22:43] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[22:43] <mierker> Ubuntu not has such the quality
[22:44] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: also, I'm interacting with the system via SSH
[22:44] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: the order of the last 2 shouldn't matter, but sure :)
[22:44] <Takyoji[laptop]_> So I hope it's a command-line utility
[22:44] <ztag100> got it
[22:44] <krababbel> ztag100: why so much for windows?
[22:44] <mierker> it is LTS
[22:44] <freebird> L3top,
[22:44] <mierker> but it has so bad quality
[22:44] <ztag100> Now I have to defrag windows!
[22:44] <mierker> ^^
[22:44] <ztag100> ARGHH
[22:44] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: You DO have an xorg.conf file yes?
[22:44] <jeffreydahmer> Okay so I dual booted ubuntu to one of my pc's. This pc isn't on a wired connection, it has to connect through wifi. I'm using a Netgear n-300 usb adapter though..how do I install the drivers for the adaptor? I can't connect to the internet at all though..when I plug it in the computer doesnt recognize it on ubuntu. Help?
[22:44] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: I appear to not
[22:44] <ztag100> krababbel: games mainly
[22:44] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: 60 G is pretty minimal for win 7
[22:44] <dlentz> mierker, do you have an issue other than not liking unity (or any other dekstop)?
[22:44] <JessicaW> cheryl_: haha. yeah. Always forward slash. the question mark key.
[22:44] <L3top> one moment freebird
[22:45] <mierker> dlentz yes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/776435
[22:45] <ztag100> window's programs normally are installed to the C:/ not the data
[22:45] <krababbel> ztag100, dougb_freebsd you can easily install  games to data usually.
[22:45] <krababbel> ztag100: doesn't need to be on windows boot
[22:45] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: export DISPLAY=:0; Xorg -configure
[22:45] <uzf> Anyone know why update-manager isn't showing 12.04 as a new dist, I'm running 10.04 right now
[22:46] <ztag100> Well, What ever
[22:46] <ztag100> :P
[22:46] <Bleach> i think you can only upgrade from 11.10?
[22:46] <cheryl_> JessicaW, Aha, I just remembered ls, which allows me to see the sub dirs!! :) Thanks, so empowering to be helped by a woman!! :)
[22:46] <mierker> uzf: because ubuntu 10.04 hates 12.04
[22:46] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: this drops an xorg.conf.new file in your /root dir
[22:46] <krababbel> ztag100: my win7 is 100g, but about 70 is games
[22:46] <JessicaW> cheryl_: NP!!! :D
[22:46] <uzf> whats the upgrade path, ubuntu+1 is invite only
[22:46] <mierker> uzf: because ubuntu 10.04 hates 12.04
[22:46] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: yes, mostly ... but even just the win7 install takes up  a huge chunk
[22:46] <dougb_freebsd> ... and it gets worse with every hotfix
[22:46] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]_: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:47] <cheryl_> Thanks Jess, I'm off to do wot I wanted 2 now. :)
[22:47] <rfm> uzf apparently they don't want LTS people to upgrade by default until 12.04.1 in july
[22:47] <JessicaW> yeah, it's LTS to LTS
[22:47] <L3top> then run the nvidia-xconfig again
[22:47] <shredding> Got it, its launchpad.
[22:47] <Takyoji[laptop]_> L3top: Actually I forgot 'sudo', nvidia-xconfig did generate an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[22:47] <mierker> yres but
[22:47] <mierker> 10.04 good
[22:47] <uzf> wtf
[22:47] <mierker> 12.04 shit+
[22:47] <FloodBot1> mierker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <mierker> ^^
[22:47] <L3top> ok then Takyoji[laptop]_ reboot
[22:47] <Fyodorovna> !language | mierker
[22:48] <mierker> Sorry but i am only trying telling the truth
[22:48] <uzf> it's only shitty because it has unity installed by default
[22:48] <uzf> just get rid of that
[22:48] <L3top> freebird, I am sorry, what version are you on?
[22:48] <mierker> Oh yes uzf
[22:48] <rfm> uzf there may be a way to force update-manager, but I don't know it.  I did the upgrade by downloading the alternate cd and running from it...
[22:48] <L3top> freebird: of ubuntu
[22:48] <JessicaW> trying again, why would ls show a directory as d?????? with no attributes? I can't chmod, chown, or rm it. suggestions?
[22:49] <AshleyWaffle> Can someone design some icons for me? I'll pay 0.5BTC for your time.
[22:49] <AshleyWaffle> Just like 3 or 4
[22:49] <AshleyWaffle> query me.
[22:49] <deranged_> JessicaW, try ls -B
[22:49] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: Once I'm done with all this... what do I do to use the data disk on both OSes
[22:50] <uzf> I ran update-manager -d and it says 12.04 is available
[22:50] <Monotoko> AshleyWaffle, 0.5BTC is what in USD?
[22:50] <JessicaW> deranged_: oO.... I have no idea what this means... ls: cannot access /illumina: Host is down
[22:50] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: format it as fat32 (probably safest to do that in windows)
[22:50] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: $2.50
[22:50] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: It's just like a few quick icons for my android app.
[22:50] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: once you format it, windows will just "see" it and you'll be able to use it like any other disk
[22:50] <uzf> $2.50 cents?
[22:50] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: Query please.
[22:50] <Monotoko> AshleyWaffle, ahh sorry I'm not your man... I do professional grade only
[22:50] <ztag100> ok
[22:51] <uzf> you could have worked at taco bell for 5 mins and already made that
[22:51] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: for ubuntu, open up the disk tool and set it to mount automatically
[22:51] <AshleyWaffle> Monotoko: Okay, thanks anyway.
[22:51] <Gallomimia> good listen session
[22:51] <Kveras> Any one with knowledge about unity that has an answer to this? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/screenshotfrom201204280.png/
[22:51] <ztag100> and for ubuntu, set up symlinks in my home dir?
[22:51] <JessicaW> deranged_: I think I tried to mount too many times! I unmounted and it's fine!
[22:51] <BoyBlunder> would anyone be able to help me if i had a Cinnamon question? i'm on a laptop and the battery applet isn't updating as my battery is draining and it only works when I refresh Cinnamon.
[22:51] <uzf> I'm afraid to do a dist upgrade, everytime things get screwed up
[22:51] <deranged_> lol
[22:51] <jfreak53> AshleyWaffle: Actually 2.55 ;) ha ha
[22:51] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: sure, if you want to .... or what I do is just add the path on the left side in the various file dialogs
[22:52] <AshleyWaffle> jfreak53: :P
[22:52] <dougb_freebsd> ... I basically ignore all the directories in ~ except the ones I create for stuff :)
[22:52] <AshleyWaffle> So nobody does icons?
[22:52] <jfreak53> AshleyWaffle: vWorker.com
[22:52] <AshleyWaffle> I want to quickly find someone on IRC, no time to register for some site
[22:52]  * L3top doesn't take money, but only does design for free projects that help more than a single user
[22:53] <krababbel> ztag100: you can use bookmarks in file manager too
[22:53] <wylde> !ot | AshleyWaffle
[22:53] <ztag100> yah, but, what about my desktop?
[22:53] <AshleyWaffle> L3top: It might be free... Query me.
[22:53] <Lint> FAT32 is not safest
[22:53] <jfreak53> AshleyWaffle: btctalk or bitcoinforums
[22:53] <ztag100> how will that update?
[22:53] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what do you mean?
[22:53] <L3top> show me the source... is the only real reply I have to that.
[22:53] <AshleyWaffle> L3top: Okay, bye.
[22:53] <dlentz> BoyBlunder, cinnamon is a mint creation. FIle a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint
[22:53] <Youssef_KH> people$ shutdown -r now
[22:54] <ztag100> the "desktop" directory
[22:54] <Youssef_KH> tryit
[22:54] <Lint> it´s not fault-tolerant and doesn´t support files over 4 GB
[22:54] <jfreak53> Youssef_KH: You first ;)
[22:54] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that will have to be different between windows and ubuntu
[22:54] <Youssef_KH> hhahaha :)
[22:54] <BoyBlunder> dlentz, thanks
[22:54]  * digitalvaldosta says, "My list of people in the room is not showing for some reason. It was earlier today. Does anyone know how to get this back? Ubuntu 12.04, using Empathy"
[22:54] <ztag100> Guess that isn't a big deal, I keep that pretty empty anyway
[22:54] <Fyodorovna> Kveras, I don't believe you can.
[22:54] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: don't store files on your desktop, put them in proper folders in your data partition
[22:54] <ztag100> I know
[22:54] <ztag100> I never do anyway
[22:55] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: don't use empathy, use weechat
[22:55] <digitalvaldosta> jfreak53: why?
[22:55] <ztag100> I asked that question out of pure curiosity
[22:55] <Monotoko> Youssef_KH: C:\Users\Monotoko> shutdown -r now
[22:55] <Monotoko> command not recognised ;)
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> Kveras, there is a #compiz channel they might know more if you get no definitive here.
[22:55] <sfears> shutdown now -P
[22:55] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: because it's a resource hog ha ha
[22:55] <dougb_freebsd> Lint: arguably ntfs would be a better choice, but I've had better luck mounting fat32 r/w than I have with ntfs
[22:55] <Kveras> Fyodorovna, ok, thx for taking the time! ;)
[22:55] <Fyodorovna> Kveras, np. :)
[22:55] <Youssef_KH> or$ sudo kill -1 -9
[22:55] <spoonybard> how can i regain the vsftpd config file if i lose it?
[22:56] <digitalvaldosta> jfreak53: well that sucks. :))
[22:56] <Monotoko> spoonybard, back it up?
[22:56] <sfears> what are the -1 & -9 flags Youssef_KH?
[22:56] <spoonybard> Monotoko, i dont have a backup of it
[22:56] <uzf> spoonybard: burn the config on a dual layer dvd
[22:56] <uzf> vim; :wr backup
[22:56] <Youssef_KH> 1 is the father of all processors
[22:56] <spoonybard> uzf, too late for that
[22:56] <Monotoko> spoonybard, then you will have to purge and reinstall vsftpd
[22:56] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd, ztag100 I haven't got many problems rw to ntfs, but I leave windows boot partition alone. :)
[22:56] <jfreak53> sfears: it basically kills everything, good bye
[22:56] <Drone4four> i've got 6 or more windows open from my last session with chromium and now that i am using unity i have to close a window in order to Alt +Tab to see the next one.  how do i cycle through different browser windows in unity?
[22:56] <Youssef_KH> when you kill it !! every sons will die
[22:57] <Youssef_KH> -9
[22:57] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: I pound my data partitions pretty hard, most notably with bittorrent
[22:57] <Maya> Why is it that in ubuntu I can not right click in my konversation chat client?
[22:57] <spoonybard> is there a purge command? Ive already tried sudo apt-get remove
[22:57] <spaceneedle> When I click the icon up in the corner it says updates available even tho I've updated thru synaptic.
[22:57] <Youssef_KH> total priority i guess
[22:57] <dougb_freebsd> but I also have a LOT of data .... pictures, documents, etc.
[22:57] <jfreak53> spoonybard: sudo apt-get purge or --purge with remove
[22:57] <Monotoko> spoonybard, remove assumes the config files are still there and leaves them
[22:57] <sfears> nice, good to know, thanks Youssef_KH
[22:57] <wylde> spoonybard: 'sudo apt-get purge packagename'
[22:57] <digitalvaldosta> has anyone here edited the grub menu? I am looking at the documentation. The examples are lacking. I have a dual boot system and would like to place my Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04 entries at the top.
[22:57] <Youssef_KH> no problem ;)
[22:58] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd: OK, I don't download a lot of torrents, will see how that goes :)
[22:58] <spaceneedle> user theme extension still crashes gnome-tweak-tool on my laptop. Please fix!
[22:58] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: you have to manually create it in custom file under /etc/grub.d I think it is
[22:58] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: just give up on that, what you probably want instead is for grub to boot the last OS you used by default, right?
[22:58] <ztag100> there's alot of seeders for 12.04
[22:58] <violinappren> digitalvaldosta: /etc/default/grub can be used to make an entry the default regardless of its order
[22:58] <Youssef_KH> there is any BASH Scripter Here ??
[22:59] <Youssef_KH> or SH
[22:59] <krababbel> ztag100: You can define your windows boot partition in fstab, so it won't show up in file manager as removable media. Not sure if disk tools mentioned earlier does that.
[22:59] <jfreak53> digitalvaldosta: grub2 it should be automatic, just leave it, it will find windows if you update-grub
[22:59] <dougb_freebsd> Youssef_KH: yes
[22:59] <violinappren> !ask | Youssef_KH
[22:59] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, what OS do you have installed right now?
[22:59] <cherez> So, I got a system crash during my 12.04 upgrade. I think I have it restored, except grub seems really confused and fails to install in a chroot.
[22:59] <Youssef_KH> ok ubotto xD
[22:59] <cherez> Any badasses have guidance for me?
[22:59] <henrybean> how do i change the system font?
[22:59] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: Issue persists; I am able get past gdm now, however the screen freezes every nth second
[23:00] <dougb_freebsd> cherez: do you have your data backed up?
[23:00] <sfears> you don't have all the folders binded properly cherez?
[23:00] <NurseDad> where do we request package updates/new software in a repo?
[23:00] <Takyoji[laptop]> the kerning of the letters are also off, as letters overlap
[23:00] <Youssef_KH> this is my website & email if u need any help www.YoussefKH.com<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:00] <digitalvaldosta> dougb_freebsd: that sounds cool. However that would confuse the wife. ;-)
[23:00] <Takyoji[laptop]> such as in gterm (or whichever it is)
[23:00] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, apt-get synaptic or software center
[23:00] <henrybean> tried recovery on boot?
[23:01] <cherez> sfears: I have /dev /proc, and /sys bounded from the root filesystem into the chroot. Am I missing any?
[23:01] <violinappren> NurseDad: #ubuntu-bugs
[23:01] <Maya> Gawd I hate these irc chat clients.
[23:01] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: if what you're trying to accomplish is "list windows first," you can't ... grub will blow away any changes you make like that on the next update ... if it works at all
[23:01] <Maya> cherez: Yea, you are.
[23:01] <NurseDad> Fyodorovna: no I mean there is a old version of a software in the repo that needs updating
[23:01] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, the update manger itself will give you updates.
[23:01] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: so, why don't you say what you're actually trying to accomplish?
[23:01] <Maya> cherez: nvm.
[23:01] <violinappren> Youssef_KH: what's your ubuntu support question?
[23:01] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: I am worried that your hw is not sufficient to run the version of Ubuntu you are running. Can you give me a pastebin of lshwd
[23:02] <sfears> boot cherez?
[23:02] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, so you want to have the ap in the repo updated?
[23:02] <Fyodorovna> app*
[23:02] <NurseDad> violinaooren: thank you
[23:02] <Maya> Who uses Konversation chat client? I'm experiencing issues with it, I can not right click.
[23:02] <NurseDad> Fyodorovna: yes
[23:02] <JessicaW> Thank to all for the help!
[23:03] <Maya> Every friggen release it's buggy. OMG.
[23:03] <sfears> nevermind cherez, i guess not need boot
[23:03]  * L3top thinks Waffle girl does not understand the difference between free and no cost
[23:03] <sfears> where does it fail?
[23:03] <violinappren> Maya: ask for a refund
[23:03] <Maya> violinappren: Lol, I wish I can refund for time.
[23:03] <cherez> sfears: It looks like boot is in the root filesystem.
[23:04] <violinappren> Maya: or better use this time to make free/libre software better :)
[23:04] <Daghdha> Hi, i have ubuntu 12.04. When i set my desktop background to BLACK i can't read the titles of the applications anymore when they are maximized.  Known issue?
[23:04] <Fyodorovna> NurseDad, hard to say really thousands of people involved in putting apps in independent of each other in many places, I guess find the responsible party and email them. Not really a realistic idea overall.
[23:04] <L3top> Maya:  can you give me an example of an OS that was not buggy the day of release?
[23:04] <Maya> violinappren: I don't have time, but I do know how to program one.
[23:04] <sfears> nevermind sys, proc & dev are what you need.
[23:04] <sfears> where does it fail cherez?
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: for some reason it stalls at lshwd with no output
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> I'm wondering if there's a hardware fault
[23:04] <cherez> sfears: grub-probe failing to find a disk for /.
[23:04] <violinappren> Maya: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[23:04] <cherez> Huh, I'm on a btrfs partition, and it looks to have a @ directory that contains the root?
[23:04] <cherez> Is that what's confusing grub-probe?
[23:05] <sfears> is that in update-grub or grub-install?
[23:05] <digitalvaldosta> I have Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04. I just installed 12.04 yesterday followed by running: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober. This would have worked great however Sony has a recovery partition that wound up being the top entry. What I would like to do is Have Win7 listed first then Ubuntu. (That way my wife won't get confused and boot into Ubuntu. She gets freaked out on something new. Despite my best eff
[23:05] <digitalvaldosta> orts at converting her to Ubuntu)
[23:05] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: I also wonder. Try sudo service gdm stop  and see if you can make it go without desktop pegging everything
[23:06] <cherez> sfears: That's when apt-get tries to do anything with grub.
[23:06] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: sudo apt-get install pastebinit  then lshw | pastebinit
[23:06] <sfears> digitalvaldosta: you can manually edit /etc/boot/grub.cfg, and will be good as long as you don't update anything.
[23:07] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: stupidly, this is actually a server with Ubuntu Desktop installed, for some reason it has an ancient GPU thrown in it though; and the reason for needing the desktop is for the Windows sysadmin to be able to work on it graphically. xP
[23:07] <dougb_freebsd>  digitalvaldosta, yeah, your best bet is to teach your wife to find the windows partition ... what might help you there is to increase the autoboot timeout to a really large number in the config file
[23:07] <digitalvaldosta> sfears: that is what I don't want to do. That will be changed after an update
[23:07] <violinappren> digitalvaldosta: make windows the default entry, hide the menu and give it a 5 second timeout or so.. all can be done in /etc/default/grub
[23:07] <sfears> if grub is the only problem your having cherez try update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda # assuming here your 1st HD is sda
[23:07] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, check out the grub customizer a easy gui way, here is the ppa.  https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer
[23:08] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: stalling at 'service gdm stop' apparently
[23:08] <ztag100> yay, defragmentation has completed!
[23:08] <Maya> L3top: If I had time to do an OS, mines wouldn't be so buggy.
[23:08] <sfears> why not disable the grub menu altogether and auto boot to a particular entry digitalvaldosta
[23:08] <Maya> Takyoji[laptop]: Version of Ubuntu?
[23:08] <ztag100> (shrinking windows)
[23:08] <Takyoji[laptop]> 10.04.4
[23:08] <Maya> You might have to run: lightdm instead.
[23:08] <digitalvaldosta> Fyodorovna: how reliable is that?
[23:08] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: if you are not particularly concerned with the flash, as it is a server, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace "nvidia" with "fbdriver"
[23:08] <reonfus> Hi, I'm new with ubuntu. My question is: if I update my 11.10 to 12.04 from Update Menager, will I lose my data? Or the files are save and will not be deleted then?
[23:09] <violinappren> sfears: digitalvaldosta: do NOT edit /etc/boot/grub.cfg
[23:09] <rodayo> I can't get a solid back ground image for the gnome terminal....changing the opacity for the solid color also changes the opacity of the image...is anyone else having/had this issue?
[23:09] <sfears> tell me NOT to
[23:09] <L3top> Maya: I am sure... so the answer is none. There is NO general release OS without bugs on the day of launch. Thanks.
[23:09] <dougb_freebsd> reonfus: you shouldn't lose anything, no ... but you should have good backups of all your data anyway, right? :)
[23:09] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, Never used it myself but recommended by the top grub people at the ubuntu forum, as a gui answer.
[23:09] <sfears> tell ME not to
[23:09] <violinappren> reonfus: it's a hit-and-miss process...
[23:10] <digitalvaldosta> Fyodorovna, hmm. interesting.
[23:10] <milamber> reonfus: the goal is that your data will be safe. however, you should *always* have backups.
[23:10] <sfears> i'll edit grub.cfg & update grub just so'z i canz has do it one more 'gain
[23:10] <cherez> sfears: both give a grub-probe error that they cannot find a device (for / and for /boot/grub respectively)
[23:10] <L3top> Actually... Takyoji[laptop]... in /etc/X11/ do you have an xorg.default or something to that effect?
[23:10] <paige> I love the vinegary taste of hot sauce so much I got a bag of tapatio flavored dorritos
[23:10] <paige> pretty good
[23:10] <sfears> maybe you have the partition mounted to a location different from the syntax in your bind -o...
[23:10] <violinappren> !ot | paige
[23:10] <reonfus> thank You for helping me :)
[23:10] <BoyBlunder> are unity themes freely available?
[23:11] <sfears> maybe you have the partition mounted to a location different from the syntax in your bind -o... cherez
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> I would like to just edit 40_custom. I just would like to see an example file to make sure I type everything correctly.
[23:11] <reCAPTCHA> Hi. Can someone tell me how I can make an executable I made show up under application results in 12.04?
[23:11] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: I do not
[23:11] <zylith-away> Looking for help.. today is my first day using ubuntu. I am trying to install ia32-libs please point me in the right direction
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> This is a laptop, so only one hard drive, 3 partitions
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> zylith-away
[23:11] <digitalvaldosta> what is that for
[23:11] <sfears> mount /dev/sda? /mnt && mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc cherez
[23:11] <zylith-away> zylith is logged in to ubuntu
[23:11] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: editing 40_custom won't do what you want, as those entries are added last
[23:11] <violinappren> zylith-away: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[23:12] <sfears> sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash cherez
[23:12] <Guest95208> 12.04 does not boot up from hard disk after installation
[23:12] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]:  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bu; reboot
[23:12] <sfears> and make sure the partition you mount to /mnt has a /
[23:12] <Maya> Guest95208: How did you install Ubuntu??
[23:12] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: lets let xrandr try and handle it better
[23:12] <Fyodorovna> digitalvaldosta, if you edit the 40_custom it will be need to be redone on any grub update, the main grub wiki tells you how to use that custom feature.
[23:12] <sfears> cherez
[23:12] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: violinappren's suggestion is probably the best .... make windows default, and hide the menu by default
[23:12] <digitalvaldosta> sfears, that is what I thought.
[23:13] <cocolos> how can I install ubuntu onto a thumbdrive?
[23:13] <OerHeks> zylith-away, The ia32-libs package was a hack to get 32-bit packages installed on a 64-bit installation. Since Oneiric, Multi Arch has been added
[23:13] <andygraybeal__> how do i get the launcherbar in 12.04 on the left side to slide away?  like in 11.10 ?
[23:13] <BoyBlunder> does anyone know where i can get some unity themes?
[23:13] <BoyBlunder> cocolos, pendrivelinux.com
[23:13] <Guest95208> from usb
[23:13] <digitalvaldosta> dougb_freebsd, how do you do that? (that sounds like the submenu feature I read about)
[23:13] <OerHeks> zylith-away, use  sudo apt-get install package-name:i386
[23:13] <cocolos> BoyBlunder: thanks
[23:13] <libertybell> It is hardly possible to hit the lower right window corner for resizing it with the mouse
[23:13] <digitalvaldosta> a link is fine
[23:13] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: boot with the thumb drive in place, and you should be able to install to it just like any other drive
[23:13] <libertybell> Used to work in the beta
[23:13] <cherez> sfears: /dev/sda1 has a directory named @ that appears to be my root directory. I think that's probably causing a lot of the confusion.
[23:13] <sfears> cocolos: alt+f2 and type startup disk creator
[23:13] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: don't have cd drive
[23:14] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: you'll have to read the docs for that, sorry I don't have any examples
[23:14] <zylith-away> once installed do I need to reboot
[23:14] <escott> cherez, btrfs?
[23:14] <sfears> @ is not your / directory cherez
[23:14] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: do you want to install TO a usb drive, or FROM one?
[23:14] <cocolos> TO as usb
[23:14] <milamber> hey guys who like snack cakes?
[23:14] <dougb_freebsd> do you have 2 usb drives?
[23:14] <cherez> escott: Yes.
[23:14] <jhartzell> Hi! How do you force an ubuntu installation to use BIOS mode?
[23:14] <escott> sfears, could be a butterfs snapshot
[23:14] <digitalvaldosta> dougb_freebsd, ok. But what y'all are talking about, is that the submenu for grub?
[23:15] <sfears> noted escott
[23:15] <cherez> sfears: It looks to contain everything from /.
[23:15] <dougb_freebsd> digitalvaldosta: see previous answer :)
[23:15] <digitalvaldosta> I still have the docs open with that info
[23:15] <escott> sfears, you need to specify the snapshot id as a mount option
[23:15] <sfears> lost me escott... go on...
[23:15] <escott> cherez, ^^^
[23:15] <pipegeek> Where can I get the source package for debian-installer as used in precise?  The .deb in the repos seems to just be the docs
[23:15] <pipegeek> I'd like to poke around in it
[23:15] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: so  pendrivelinux.com will do it?
[23:16] <jhartzell> Apparently some computers do not properly support EFI boot, so I need to use BIOS mode, and I don't know how to do that.
[23:16] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: no idea, I've never used that
[23:16] <cherez> escott: How do I do that?
[23:16] <sfears> jhartzell: try the alternate install cd
[23:16] <violinappren> pipegeek: apt-get source packagename
[23:16] <cocolos> anyone else know how I can install ubuntu ONTO a usb drive
[23:16] <jhartzell> Ah. Thank you!
[23:16] <Guest95208> Today i installed 12.04 version using usb. After installation it was unable to boot.
[23:16] <cocolos> I don't have cd drive
[23:16] <sfears> cocolos: alt+f2 and type "startup disk creator"
[23:17] <cocolos> sfears: I don't have a live cd
[23:17] <cocolos> sfears: I would like to have ubuntu already installed
[23:17] <L3top> cocolos: startup disk creator is for USB
[23:17] <ztag100> I'm stupid
[23:17] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: you didn't answer my question .... do you have 2 usb drives?
[23:17] <escott> cherez, check the @/etc/fstab it should have the correct formulation for the mount options
[23:17] <pipegeek> violinappren: Yes, I know.  But that package doesn't actually seem to have d-i in it
[23:17] <ztag100> I for some reason planned this out for 80 GB not, 120
[23:17] <ztag100> GB
[23:17] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: sorry to hear that :)
[23:18] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: sorry yes I do
[23:18] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: should I just place iso in one and install on the other?
[23:18] <Maya> cocolos: You can also use Unetbootin. Great piece of software to make linux .ISO bootable from USB drive
[23:18] <escott> cherez, worst case you should be able to access @ as if it were a folder, but make sure you are accessing the correct correct subvolume/snapshot if there are multiple
[23:18] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: ok, create the usb installer, then boot with both drives  :)
[23:18] <socomm> Is there something similar to winamp on ubuntu? I know there was xmms back in the day but that one is discountinued it looks like.
[23:18] <socomm> Anyone got a recommendation.
[23:18] <Maya> socomm: Use Banshee.
[23:18] <zivester> audacious2
[23:18] <Maya> Or rhythmbox.
[23:19] <ztag100> wait, no I didn't
[23:19] <ztag100> my math is horrible
[23:19] <cocolos> dougb_freebsd: ok I guess I will use what Maya mentioned
[23:19] <pipegeek> violinappren: I can check it out from svn.debian.org but that doesn't tell me what snapshot is used in ubuntu precise
[23:19]  * L3top agrees with Maya... crosses versions well as it rewrites the vesamenu which causes some cross version probs... and frankly specific code often has to be written to make native tools boot... though Ubuntu has it.
[23:19] <cocolos> Maya: thanks
[23:19] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: Issue persists; also, when I rebooted with fbdriver set,  gdm-binary and init were holding near to 100% CPU utilization
[23:19] <sfears> similar in what way socomm?
[23:20]  * digitalvaldosta holla
[23:20] <simonp> any idea when http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts is gonna be updated with precise?
[23:20] <ztag100> Does my data partition need to be a data partition?
[23:20] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: what are the chances you have any POS card anywhere lying around?
[23:20] <ztag100> err
[23:20] <ztag100> I mean primary
[23:20] <Takyoji[laptop]> Sadly, I don't have any extras at hand for now
[23:20] <Takyoji[laptop]> But can in the future
[23:20] <ztag100> does the data partition have to be primary or logical?
[23:21] <Takyoji[laptop]> I'll likely have it do a non-graphical boot by default, or something, in the meantime
[23:21] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: ?
[23:21] <L3top> Honestly this is a 20 dollar fix Takyoji[laptop]. That chipset is frikkin ANCIENT.
[23:21] <panda_> Is it possible to chat through terminal?
[23:21] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: I know, I don't get it either. xP
[23:21] <krababbel> ztag100: doesn't matter, primary was restricted in number
[23:21] <ztag100> exactly
[23:21] <simonp> pancro: weechat, irssi
[23:21] <ztag100> that's why I'm asking
[23:21] <simonp> ooups
[23:21] <cherez> I got it mounted. Running dpkg --configure -a. It looks to be working.
[23:21] <simonp> panda: weechat, irssi
[23:21] <ztag100> so, if it's logical, it's ok?
[23:22] <sfears> what was the fix cherez?
[23:22] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: should I try another display manager than gdm, or would the issue likely just persist?
[23:22] <sfears> i saw something about looking in fstab
[23:22] <violinappren> pipegeek: https://launchpad.net/d-i seems to list all associated packages
[23:22] <cherez> sfears: I needed to mount as: mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sda1 /mnt
[23:22] <cherez> Then all the standard binds.
[23:22] <sfears> nice
[23:22] <int19h> panda_: epic5
[23:22] <Takyoji[laptop]> Xorg is initialized from gdm, correct?
[23:22] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you should use 4 primary partitions
[23:22] <panda_> epic i know
[23:23] <ztag100> I know...
[23:23] <n0sq> why isn't there an amsn package for ubuntu 12?
[23:23] <pipegeek> hahahaha
[23:23] <pipegeek> in *trunk*
[23:23] <ztag100> Windows, automatically creates two (one for Disk Restore)
[23:23] <pipegeek> the docs for choose-mirror start with "Hmm.  This really does need documenting :-\"
[23:24] <ztag100> oh, I think I found the problem
[23:24] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you don't want to let windows do that :0
[23:24] <L3top> Takyoji[laptop]: if you spent 58 dollars you could run crazy sauce.... as to other DM... all I know is that kdm will be worse. I work on a specific project, and we don't even use a DM, we make our own fun... we simply give you access to one, and I handle universal gpu install/config for our media center. I can make your card work in our project...  but as far as desktop... I rarely see one.
[23:25] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: Why?
[23:25] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: it's a useless feature that will burn an otherwise useful primary partition :)
[23:25] <ztag100> So, delete it?
[23:25] <dougb_freebsd> but if you want to use that, it's fine ... the 2 linux partitions can be extended/logical
[23:26] <int19h> wow, kirc
[23:26] <ztag100> Wait, It's not letting me make a logical partition (the option is greyed out)
[23:26] <int19h> kvirc
[23:26] <int19h> its been a LONG time since i have seen somebody using that
[23:26] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what are you using to partition the disk?
[23:26] <Takyoji[laptop]> L3top: support wouldn't really be necessary, as I'm getting reasonable suspicion that the hardware has gone to crap some way or another
[23:27] <ztag100> gparted (from System Rescue Disk)
[23:27] <panda_> why 12.04 is unable to boot after installation from pendrive
[23:27] <SPACEDUDE360000> Can't connect to wireless connection. I'm using wubi to dual-boot and the windows wireless is working.
[23:27] <sfears> panda_: maybe a video driver issue
[23:27] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: how many primary partitions do you have?
[23:27] <SPACEDUDE360000> But the network doesnt show up.
[23:27] <kip> I have an application that uses the serial port. I am debugging the config file, and when I do <ctrl>C to quit it from the terminal, it leaves the serial port open. So when I try to run it again it can not open the serial port. It clears if I reboot Lubuntu. How do I release the serial port /dev/ttyS2 from the terminal?
[23:27] <ztag100> Not sure, I'm having trouble reading the color coding
[23:27] <krababbel> panda_: wait while we decode the gobs of information you brought to the matter
[23:27] <panda_> but all the previous version works very fine
[23:28] <ztag100> blue means primary?
[23:28] <Penth> Hola. 12.04 unity-greeter is giving me a Japanese keyboard layout as my only option. Where can I fix this?
[23:28] <sfears> exit properly kip
[23:28] <ztag100> And, there is a partition called DellUtility
[23:28] <kip> Normally it runs in the background all of the time.
[23:28] <henrybean> fonts can be changed by installing "myunity"
[23:28] <taime1> anyone know why pidgin doesnt allow me to enable libnotify plugin?
[23:28] <mlouki> plz ubuntu fr is chanel ??
[23:28] <kip> How do I exit it otherwise?
[23:28] <ztag100> I have 3 partitions right now (and unallocated space)
[23:29] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: what are the 3 partitions you have now?
[23:29] <ztag100> DellUtility, System Reserved, and the main windows partition
[23:29] <Audr> Hello all. Can anyone tell me where to find the default sources.list for 11.1 ?
[23:30] <krababbel> ztag100: is parted on that rescue disk?
[23:30] <krababbel> you can list partitions there
[23:30] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: Ok, then you'll have to put both the data and the linux partitions in as extended/logical ... that's fine, just slightly more complex
[23:30] <the_goat> just popped in to say that man does ubuntu 11.10 amd64 ever suck hard... wtf guys
[23:31] <sfears> Audr: /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:31] <ztag100> krababbel, yes
[23:31] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: IIRC you have to create the extended partition first using the unallocated space, then you can create logical partitions inside it
[23:31] <Wootlite> I ran 11.10 on a Penom II for six months and loved it
[23:31] <dougb_freebsd> .... of course, the other option is to just wipe out the whole disk and start over :)
[23:31] <Fyodorovna> Audr, if you need another here is a link. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[23:31] <mirak> hi
[23:31] <ztag100> Ok
[23:32] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd: why can't he create another primary for / ? Would that be easier?
[23:32] <Wootlite> Hola. 12.04 unity-greeter is giving me a Japanese keyboard layout as my only option. Where can I fix this?
[23:32] <krababbel> ztag100: parted then print will tell you what partitions there are
[23:32] <mirak> i  want to install ubuntu from a chroot, and be able to boot it. is there somewhere a procedure that will ensure I will have the same install as if I used a cd install ??
[23:32] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: he has 3 primaries already, and he wants a total of 6 partitions
[23:32] <Audr> Fyodorovna, thanks that was what i needed
[23:32] <Audr> sfears, obviously...
[23:32] <krababbel> dougb_freebsd: one primary for boot, the rest logical, no?
[23:33] <simonp> any idea when http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts is gonna be updated with precise?
[23:33] <dougb_freebsd> krababbel: no, because he's got 3 primaries already between dell and windows
[23:33] <Fyodorovna> Audr, cool thought that was the idea. :)
[23:33] <simonp> do-release-upgrade doesn'
[23:33] <kip>  How do I release the serial port /dev/ttyS2 from the terminal? So it cam be opened by an application?
[23:33] <simonp> t work yet
[23:33] <dougb_freebsd> all of my linux stuff is in extended/logical ... there's no reason not to do that
[23:33] <Daghdha> I installed 'Periodic Table' app. But the icon shown for it seems to be a page with a text and little folde on the top right.
[23:34] <Daghdha> SHouldn't it show the icon i also see in the Ubunto SOftware center?
[23:34] <pipegeek> Anybody know why the value of mirror/http/hostname would be getting ignored in ubuntu precise?
[23:34] <ztag100> alright, 20.77 GB left, that I'll setup for ubuntu during install proccess
[23:34] <pipegeek> I've confirmed that the preseed file is being fetched successfully and applied
[23:34] <pipegeek> according to syslog
[23:34] <ztag100> 16 for / and 4 for swap
[23:34] <pipegeek> but it's blithely carrying on to download everything from gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <ztag100> cool?
[23:35] <daftykins> pipegeek: what's in your sources.list ?
[23:35] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you probably want to create the 4G for swap in the beginning of the unallocated space, and use the rest for /
[23:35] <simonp> f4bg fo swap is too much
[23:35] <panda_> Any fast download manager
[23:35] <pipegeek> daftykins: this is in the installer.  There is no sources.list yet.
[23:35] <ztag100> ok
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> panda_  to download what? ubuntu uses repositories
[23:36] <daftykins> pipegeek: installer? oic, ignore me then.
[23:36] <panda_> mp3 and other files except video
[23:37] <pipegeek> anyone else successfully preseeded precise yet?
[23:37] <krababbel> ztag100: I'm not sure about linux swap, but if windows has less pagefile than ram, applications can't reliably use all you ram. Also hibernation won't work if you don't have a bit more swap than RAM.
[23:37] <ztag100> simonp: I have 4G of Ram
[23:37] <Fyodorovna> panda_, I use apt-fast not sure if this is the web site I got the info from but will get you started. http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/03/apt-fast-speeds-up-package-downloads-in-ubuntu/
[23:37] <krababbel> I'd use 4,5GB swap for example
[23:38] <panda_> fyodorovna: ok i will check
[23:38] <simonp> ztag100: 2GB of swap is enough
[23:38] <Neal_> What would you recommend how much swap should I have on a 16GB RAM server?
[23:38] <simonp> unless you want to hibernate
[23:39] <panda_> anyway i have tried prozgui it works fine but not enough fast
[23:39] <krababbel> rebooting is 70's stuff
[23:39] <dougb_freebsd> Neal_: you can't go wrong with swap == RAM, and disk is cheap
[23:39] <sfears> Zontar: where in PA are you?
[23:39]  * szal goes w/ the old-fashioned recommendation of swap = 1.5x RAM
[23:40] <panda_> On my laptop rebooting is just 25 sec's stuff
[23:40] <sfears> 1.5 even with 16 Gig's of ram?
[23:40] <Neal_> I only have 1GB (default set by my host) :/
[23:40] <daftykins> 1.5x RAM up to a ceiling of 4GB is cool
[23:41] <dougb_freebsd> if you ever get into a situation where you are using even 1/2 as much swap as you have ram, you need more ram :)
[23:42] <ztag100> Sorry, I went afk for a few seconds
[23:42] <ztag100> what should I setup?
[23:43] <ztag100> I was told that I should have twice my RAM for swap
[23:43] <ztag100> was that wrong?
[23:43] <Jonny> Hey, I feel sem-retarded for asking this, but my apt-get is getting a 404 how'd I fix that?
[23:44] <tailf> if i have a usb drive mounted, how do i tell what /dev/x it is?
[23:44] <Queops> Jonny, try chaging your mirrors
[23:44] <krababbel> ztag100: I'd guess that's old advice for efficiency reasons, when RAM was expensive.
[23:44] <scott_> 12.04 is awesome
[23:44] <Queops> Jonny, software sources program and change the source there
[23:44] <phoenix_firebrd> is this ppa good gnome3-team/gnome3
[23:44] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: 2x ram is definitely overkill
[23:45] <BoyBlunder> does anyone know where i can get some unity themes?
[23:45] <ztag100> Alright
[23:45] <ztag100> Is 4 fine?
[23:46] <gogeta> ztag100: these days you dont need that mutch swap
[23:46] <japro> hmm, i couldn't find a ppa for gcc 4.7 i nowcompiled it myself is there a way to "install" it without screwing over stuff?
[23:46] <elijah> I made a change to my .bash_profile but every new cli I run I have to source it for it to work. Is there a way I can make it stick without having to logout and log back in?
[23:47] <gogeta> ztag100: swap is for when you run out of ram and if you have alot you probly whont even use it
[23:47] <daftykins> tailf: "sudo fdisk -l" will show you info about each device
[23:47] <clark> hi i am on ubuntu 12.04 and my internet is acting really finniky. google search seems to be quick, but loading any actual site, it hangs for a while
[23:47] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you said you had 4 G ram yes? If so, then 4G swap is what you want
[23:47] <gogeta> ztag100: i saw a gb so you can hibernate
[23:47] <dougb_freebsd> gogeta: we're configuring it to allow hibernation
[23:47] <clark> i have a realtek wireless card on a thinkpad e420s laptop.
[23:47] <tailf> daftykins: thanks :D
[23:47] <daftykins> np!
[23:48] <gogeta> dougb_freebsd: hibernation does not use all the ram just wats in use
[23:48] <dougb_freebsd> gogeta: right, so, *cough* swap == ram is all you need, and the safest bet
[23:48] <dougb_freebsd> he has the disk to spare, better safe now then sorry later :)
[23:48] <gogeta> dougb_freebsd: i use a gb on a 4gb system everything works
[23:49] <krababbel> saving 3GB hdd space nowadays is not reasonable
[23:49] <Fyodorovna> phoenix_firebrd, Using a PPA has the do at your own risk label, never had a problem personally and have that one in my sources.list.
[23:49] <hilikus> when i run lsof (no arguments or anything) nothing happens, the command doesn't show any output and it doesn't terminate, it just hangs there. any idea what can cause this?
[23:50] <ztag100> I'm going with 4G
[23:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Fyodorovna: thats good. going to try that
[23:50] <gogeta> ztag100: whont ever use it but go eith what you like
[23:50] <gogeta> with
[23:50] <andreim> hello Sirs. I have a MacBook Pro 5,1 (yes, I know the link to recommended distros, etc) but I would like to know if I can skip REFIT installation and use boot camp instead?
[23:50] <cherez> sfears, escott: With your help and a grub-install all was fixed. Thanks a lot!
[23:51] <ztag100> gogeta: to be quite honest, it doesn't really matter to me, I have the space to spare
[23:51] <krababbel> gogeta: you won't use those 3GB on / either
[23:51] <Daghdha> hmm recommendations enabled by default o_O how coorperate
[23:51] <gogeta> ztag100: i dont even thing hibernate supends to swap
[23:51] <ztag100> the 2 GB doesn't make a difference to e
[23:51] <ztag100> me*
[23:52] <ztag100> dougb_freebsd: now, for the 18GB Ubuntu partition... Do I want to set a mount point, or just leave that blank?
[23:52] <gogeta> ztag100: these days i think it makes a swap file if you dont have it
[23:52] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: yes, the mount point is /
[23:52] <dougb_freebsd> that should be all you need
[23:52] <ztag100> Alright
[23:52] <clark> speedtest gives me 15 mbps DL and basically non existent upload speed. what is wrong ?
[23:52] <hatora> how to backup installed packages ?
[23:52] <ztag100> that automatically does everything else?
[23:53] <clark> my upload speed is 0.09. is that awful?
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> hatora  dpkg --get-selection
[23:53] <hilikus> hatora: you can get the whole list by doing dpkg -l
[23:53] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: you may have to tell the installer again, but yes, for gparted that's more than sufficient
[23:53] <krababbel> ztag100: yes, you need at least /
[23:53] <hilikus> hatora: so maybe dpkg -l > packages.log
[23:53] <gogeta> clark: yea
[23:53] <ztag100> I'm in the installer now
[23:53] <hatora> ok
[23:53] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: ok, then yes ... /
[23:54] <hatora> is it possible with synaptic package manager ?
[23:54] <gogeta> shure
[23:54] <ztag100> and it should be after the swap, right?
[23:55] <dougb_freebsd> right, that way it will just use all the rest of the free space
[23:55] <clark> gogeta, do you know how i can fix it?
[23:55] <ztag100> alright!
[23:55] <clark> ive done a lot of searching but nothing that ive tried has worked =\
[23:55] <gogeta> clark: better isp relly dunno
[23:55] <hatora> is backup possible with synaptic package manager ?
[23:55] <ztag100> Just checking, what device do I want to use for bootloader?
[23:56] <Psi-Jack> hatora: No
[23:56] <clark> gogeta, my internet is blazing fast on windows. i guess i got the wrong hardware config to work well with ubuntu...again
[23:56] <hatora> then
[23:56] <cocolos> Maya: it didn't work
[23:56] <krababbel> ztag100: in your case, your boot drive, where windows is?
[23:56] <gogeta> clark: you can have fast downstream and crappy upload
[23:57] <krababbel> ztag100: the drive which is set to boot first in BIOS
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> Hmmmm.
[23:57] <Psi-Jack> I thought Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS was going to FINALLY default to 64-bit, what happened?
[23:57] <clark> gogeta, my upload is not crappy on other OS. there must be some configuration i need to adjust
[23:57] <cocolos> how can I create a bootable usb drive?
[23:57] <mirak> df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory
[23:57] <mirak> in a chroot
[23:57] <ztag100> krababbel: where the 100mb windows boot flag is?
[23:57] <gogeta> clark: yea could be
[23:57] <mirak> can I make it work ?
[23:57] <hilikus> cocolos: try unetbootin
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> Psi-Jack  in order to be able to run on older pc's, there has to be a 32bit version
[23:58] <clark> psi-jack dont they offere 32 and 64?
[23:58] <ztag100> that's the one with the boot flag now
[23:58] <gogeta> clark: yes
[23:58] <dougb_freebsd> ztag100: that should be fine
[23:58] <cocolos> hilikus: I just tried it my computer didn't pick it up
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> MonkeyDust: Right, hence, 'default'.
[23:58] <ztag100> 100MB is enough?
[23:58] <cocolos> how can I install ubuntu onto my usb drive?
[23:58] <darkVader> hi there, I need some help please
[23:58] <dougb_freebsd> more than enough
[23:58] <gogeta> cocolos: maybe the pc does not support cd rom booting
[23:58] <krababbel> ztag100: well yes, don't do sda1, just sda, so it installs to MBR. that 100mb should be windows boot partition
[23:58] <hilikus> cocolos: using unetbooting
[23:58] <gogeta> cocolos: yes with unetbootin
[23:58] <dougb_freebsd> cocolos: didn't I already answer that question? :)
[23:58] <Psi-Jack> MonkeyDust: As in, word said that they would stop recommending 32-bit and recommend 64-bit by default.
[23:59] <hilikus> cocolos: what do you mean didnt pick it up?
[23:59] <gogeta> cocolos: but if it does not do cd rom i dought it does usb
[23:59] <darkVader> I am trying to install Ubunto
[23:59] <hilikus> cocolos: did you change the boot order in your bios?
[23:59] <Maya> cocolos: unetbootin, you have to clear your USB drive first. (Forgoodness sakes, PLEASE BACKUP FIRST). Then after clearing USB. Unmount it. Then Pull out USB. Put it back in. THEN open unetbootin. Pick out the ISO, pick the USB drive letter/directory. Then you may finally install ubuntu to USB.
[23:59] <ztag100> I did the one that had a boot flag before
[23:59] <Guest2441> how to install .tar.gz file
[23:59] <johnjohn101> what is geekshed irc?
[23:59] <gogeta> Maya: that made no sense
[23:59] <cocolos> Maya: I repartitioned it as weel
[23:59] <ztag100> was that the windows boot loader?