[05:01] <Linux_Galore> dope: seems to have better support for wlan
[05:01] <Glider-Mike> Yes, Windows sucks, and even worse than that, I am not going to leave my system or my data to a closed source / company that I have no control over
[05:01] <dope> well my wireless works but i just can't get wpa encryption to work with it
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> dope: almost as good as my openbsd machine
[05:01] <Glider-Mike> dope: WPA can be nast, and you must have a supported driver.  I feel your pain on that
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> dope: I just use ssh
[05:02] <dope> ssh?
[05:02] <Minataku> Especially since WPA is just as bad as WEP
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> dope: yeah, I close down all the ports and use ssh over the wlan between the machines
[05:02] <Minataku> Just tunnel everything through ssh, yeah
[05:03] <Minataku> Anything that's sensitive should be done via SSH anyway
[05:03] <Linux_Galore> dope:  ssh  = secure shell
[05:03] <Minataku> SSL
[05:03] <Minataku> Sorry
[05:03] <Linux_Galore> yes, I have a web browser working with ssh lol
[05:03] <dope> oh
[05:03] <dope> well i'm talkin about going to friends' houses and getting on their network
[05:03] <Minataku> dope: You know how when you login to GMail or eBay via Firefox, the URL turns green and starts with https?
[05:03] <dope> i think someone is on my network
[05:04] <Minataku> dope: Check the router
[05:04] <Minataku> While you're there... MAC filtering
[05:04] <Glider-Mike> Many corporate APs use WPA along with TLS, CKIP, MSCHAP and all that other crap that make it tough.
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> dope: basically the security is the client machine not the easy to crack wpa
[05:04] <dope> i set static IPs for my 2 comps on here
[05:04] <Minataku> Locks EVERYONE out
[05:04] <Glider-Mike> That's my issue at work
[05:04] <dope> 113 and 114 and there's a 100 ip
[05:04] <dope> also my 2 comps don't show up in the table
[05:04] <dope> is that a linux thing?
[05:05] <Minataku> Glider-Mike: Oh, those "don't make a difference, proprietary as hell" useless bullsh?t things that corporations pay $20000/license for?
[05:05] <Linux_Galore> dope: ssh works on most platforms  even windows
[05:05] <Glider-Mike> Manataku: Exactly
[05:05] <Minataku> Nobody is getting my name right today
[05:05] <Glider-Mike> Sorry "Minataku"
[05:05] <Minataku> lol
[05:05] <Minataku> It's okay
[05:05] <Glider-Mike> was merely a typo
[05:05] <Glider-Mike> my bad
[05:05] <Minataku> I have a hard last name IRL
[05:06] <Minataku> So I'm used to it anyway
[05:06] <Minataku> XD
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: Minataku Minataku
[05:06] <dope> who is this 100 ip
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> lol
[05:06] <Minataku> lol
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> pffft
[05:06] <Minataku> dope: Hit 'em with nmap
[05:06] <dope> how do i do that
[05:06] <Minataku> Sorry, Glider-Mike, it just so happens that almost nobody today has typed it right XD
[05:06] <Minataku> !nmap
[05:06] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[05:07] <Linux_Galore> hate nicks with a _ or a shift character at the begining
[05:07] <Minataku> 4.10-1?  BRB.  Take care of keeping hte conversation going Minatakooo.
[05:08] <Minataku> And current version is 4.20
[05:09] <Minataku> lol
[05:09] <Glider-Mike> Sorry man, couldn't help it.
[05:09] <Max_-> How did we enable searching in more servers for packages.. can't remember.. there was something about it..
[05:09] <Minataku> s'ok
[05:09] <Linux_Galore> Im off to watch some lolicon
[05:10] <dope> it's not responding to the nmap
[05:10] <dope> could it be a an old computer that WAS connected but not anymore?
[05:10] <dope> and why aren't my linux computers showing up
[05:10] <Minataku> lol
[05:10] <Minataku> Have fun
[05:10] <Minataku> Wait
[05:10] <Minataku> What series?
[05:11] <Minataku> dope: Most Windows machines, properly set up won't respond at all to nmap, believe it or now
[05:11] <Minataku> *not
[05:11] <dope> hmm
[05:11] <vontux> sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list~ >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <vontux> yields permission denied
[05:12] <vontux> does anyone have any idea why this is?
[05:12] <smaggard> u got a package manager open?
[05:12] <smaggard> like adept..
[05:12] <smaggard> close it
[05:12] <Minataku> Yeah, I think 100 on my network is the Windows box, and it returned two closed ports
[05:13] <vontux> ok, so some other process is using it then, and that is what is causing the problem samggard?
[05:13] <smaggard> yupp
[05:13] <smaggard> some other package handler or something
[05:13] <Minataku> !adeptfix
[05:13] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:13] <Max_-> Hellooo!  anyone can give me a clue about "Package console-common is not available, but is referred to by another package... blah blah and it says to maybe look for other locations.."  What do I need to do then to get it installed?
[05:13] <smaggard> or just restart it might be just as fast ;)
[05:14] <vontux> smaggard: would this include killing the process for apt-get?
[05:14] <smaggard> do you have a runaway apt-get?
[05:14] <Minataku> Heh
[05:14] <smaggard> yeah kill it
[05:14] <Minataku> The Nintendo Wii has no open ports in the default nmap scan
[05:14] <vontux> smaggard: not quite sure what that is actually :)
[05:14] <vontux> smaggard: thx
[05:14] <Minataku> MAC Address: 00:17:AB:XX:XX:XX (Nintendo Co.)
[05:14] <Minataku> :D
[05:15] <smaggard> apt-get is the cli package installer
[05:15] <vontux> that is probably a cause
[05:15] <smaggard> yeah def.
[05:17] <vontux> does anyone know if there have been some changes to the Ubuntu universe repositories lately?
[05:18] <smaggard> iunno myself sorr
[05:18] <smaggard> y
[05:18] <smaggard> sorry*
[05:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: kyou no Go Ni
[05:22] <Minataku> Never heard of it, but enjoy ^^
[05:22] <cpk1> so how safe do you figure .debs from fiesty to be when using on an edgy install? =)
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: just found it today, havent got a clue what its about
[05:23] <Max_-> Hellooo!  anyone can give me a clue about "Package console-common is not available, but is referred to by another package... blah blah and it says to maybe look for other locations.."  What do I need to do then to get it installed?
[05:23] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: artwork seems nice
[05:23] <Minataku> lol
[05:23] <cpk1> !find console-common
[05:23] <ubotu> Found: console-common
[05:23] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: aaa its a comic lolicon
[05:23] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Depending on the core content, the artwork may be all one needs XD
[05:23] <KorN[CM] > !find dmraid
[05:23] <ubotu> Found: dmraid
[05:23] <Minataku> !console-common
[05:23] <ubotu> console-common: Basic infrastructure for text console configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.59ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 864 kB
[05:24] <cpk1> Max_-: you need to enable universe
[05:24] <Minataku> Hm
[05:24] <Max_-> cpk1 yeahh!! that's it... universe.... where was the file? please
[05:24] <Minataku> !find lololololtotallybogus
[05:24] <ubotu> Package/file lololololtotallybogus does not exist in edgy
[05:24] <Minataku> lol
[05:24] <Minataku> There it is XD
[05:24] <Minataku> Hm...
[05:25] <cpk1> !repos | Max_-
[05:25] <ubotu> Max_-: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:25] <KorN[CM] > any dmraid gurus here???? I need some help please.
[05:26] <orient2000> what is a short cut for adept?
[05:28] <Max_-> cpk1 thanks...  damn.. just enabled the universe thing... and I still get the same error
[05:28] <cpk1> Max_-: you need to do update first
[05:29] <Max_-> update?
[05:29] <Max_-> I'm on server version.. so I don't have the GUI if you're talking about the nice little app that does everything for you.. usually
[05:30] <cpk1> Max_-: do apt-get update or aptitude update
[05:30] <cpk1> as sudo
[05:31] <Max_-> okay
[05:31] <jontec> hey, can I use depmod to get the standard detection of my soundcard back? If so, can you specify what I need? I kind of deleted it, I think
[05:32] <Max_-> still not working :(.. says the same error
[05:33] <Max_-> ohh think I got something
[05:34] <Max_-> okay.. it'll I think.. thanks
[05:36] <vontux> quick general question, if I try to install some packages using "apt-get" with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS since it isn't the most up to date version, can this cause some errors with dependency problems on attempts to isntall some packages?
[05:38] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: its actually just some very short funny stories with kids
[05:40] <cpk1> vontux: no, apt-get knows what to get as long as you only have dapper repos in your sources.list
[05:42] <vontux> does anyone know about "Easyubuntu" does it add repos that are for 6.10 rather than 6.06, perhaps this could be causing my problem?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> 'best' would be to not use easyubuntu, or any other of the various 'helper' tools that do that stuff.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> add the repos manually, and isntall the stuff you manually.
[05:47] <Glider-Mike> May be "best" that way, but Automatix really helps make Ubuntu / KUbuntu rock the most
[05:49] <Dr_willis> and it can teach you how to reinstall the disrto also...
[05:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntusoftware.info/
[05:51] <flaccid> sounds pretty stupid
[05:52] <Dr_willis> ubuntu + lots of extras... woopiee...
[05:52] <Dr_willis> everything sounds stupid in one way or another. :)
[05:53] <flaccid> that site has about 100294 404 pages
[05:53] <Dr_willis> yep looks like it.
[05:53] <flaccid> can't you just install the extras onto kubuntu
[05:53] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  yes you can. :)
[05:53] <flaccid> hehe
[05:53] <Dr_willis> deb http://ubuntusoftware.info/ edgy all
[05:53] <flaccid> maybe i'll make kubuntu ultimate flaccid edition
[05:54] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntusoftware.info/repos.html
[05:54] <flaccid> so they are just a repo. how misleading
[05:54] <Dr_willis> everything is missleading.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Max_-> make: g++: Command not found             make: *** [blah]  Error 127      what should I think of this?.. just installed the make package.
[05:54] <flaccid> welcome to the world, today.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i just find it odd.. isent java GPL'ed now? they state they had to 'remove it'
[05:54] <flaccid> Max_: apt-get install build-essential
[05:54] <Max_-> flaccid thanks
[05:54] <flaccid> java is not gpl
[05:55] <Dr_willis> I though sun made a big anouncement about it a few weeks ago.
[05:55] <flaccid> where do you want to go tomorrow?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> or was that somthing else.. i forget..
[05:56] <Dr_willis> and sharing innovations and technologies to foster more participation. Today in a historic move, Sun is opening the door to greater innovation by open sourcing key Java implementations
[05:56] <Dr_willis> http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/
[05:57] <smaggard> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3832475299740025557
[05:57] <flaccid> http://www.java.com/en/download/license.jsp
[05:57] <jbruckman> !konsole
[05:57] <ubotu> konsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 710 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[05:57] <Max_-> installed well... now I retry to compile that thing from a tutorial.. and it says (among other things, but this is the one that surprises me the most)    blah.cpp:2:17: error: php.h: No such file or directory     damn.. heh anyone knows how to get this working?
[05:57] <jbruckman> !beryl
[05:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:58] <flaccid> hmm doesnt say anything about the jre there
[05:58] <flaccid> ah its the java hotspot vm
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Heck i can barely understand their pressreleases.. :)
[05:59] <flaccid> totally
[06:00] <flaccid> looks like i'm using it in diablo jre: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build diablo-1.5.0_07-b01, mixed mode)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> more buzzwords then a beehive full of lawyers
[06:00] <flaccid> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build diablo-1.5.0-b01)
[06:00] <edd_> ,,
[06:00] <flaccid> java has confusing parts but its good otherwise. but lots of bullshite
[06:00] <edd_> d
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I think SUN was java's worst enemy in sooo many ways....
[06:01] <edd_> s
[06:01] <Dr_willis> of course what do i know.. I learned Programming on a C64
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:03] <edd_> s
[06:04] <Max_-> what package carries the php headers (php.h ..)  ????
[06:04] <LobsterWing> finally
[06:05] <jbruckman> !repositories
[06:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:06] <jbruckman> !gaim
[06:06] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:06] <Max_-> !php
[06:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:06] <Max_-> !headers
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[06:06] <Max_-> !php.h
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php.h - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <flaccid> Dr_willis: SUN made java. they own the license.
[06:07] <LobsterWing> hello, can anyone tell me whts the command to install teamspeak
[06:07] <Max_-> !teamspeak
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <Max_-> huh
[06:07] <Max_-> nobody uses php.h around?
[06:07] <reldruh> does anybody know if there's a way to keep metadata from amarok (play counts and ratings) on a partition on a different computer, one that gets mounted at boot?
[06:08] <LobsterWing> ok i will check it
[06:08] <Max_-> LobsterWing I was just looking if ubotu knows... don't mean there's something there but you can still look
[06:09] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  most all kde apps keep their settings and data in the users .kde dir.
[06:10] <LobsterWing> !google kubuntu
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google kubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <reldruh> Dr_willis: thanks. I'll have to look through there and see if I can find a way to get it onto a different partition without breaking it
[06:10] <Dr_willis> soft links..
[06:10] <Dr_willis> or just back the thing up.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> or just put your /home on its own partition
[06:15] <reldruh> you think backing the whole think up would work? I can't figure out which file it is. There's a bunch called collection.db*
[06:15] <dhq_> Dr_willis: i need help with my battery management in linux i use a laptop
[06:16] <Dr_willis> dhq_,  ive not messed with that much.. other then use that KDE applet to throttle the cpu.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> I DID notice that sleep/hibernate now work on my turion laptop..
[06:16] <transgress> okay i'm trying to set up wpa_supplicant but there isn't an existing /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf anyone know what i should do about this?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> which amazed me.
[06:16] <dhq_> Dr_willis: but i dont seem to have any battery management applet
[06:17] <brad_> I just discoverd amarok, Ive been using xmms forever, and I will never go back to it. Amarok is coolest app I
[06:17] <Dr_willis> fire up the packaage manager perhaps and check/search.. i recall some that were not isntalled by default
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !info ubuntu-laptop
[06:17] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-laptop does not exist in any distro I know
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !find laptop
[06:17] <transgress> or if someone has a way that i can get knetworkmanager to connect automatically w/o asking for a password that'd be great... because right now it asks for my wpa pass and my kwalletmanager pass
[06:17] <ubotu> Found: laptop-detect, laptop-mode-tools, education-laptop, klaptopdaemon, kpowersave (and 4 others)
[06:18] <vontux> !find laptop
[06:18] <ubotu> Found: laptop-detect, laptop-mode-tools, education-laptop, klaptopdaemon, kpowersave (and 4 others)
[06:22] <vontux> !find kde
[06:22] <ubotu> Found: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, hwdb-client-kde, kde-core, kde-guidance (and 502 others)
[06:33] <Frostypants> KUbuntu doesn't seem to remember my application associations.  I set mp3's to open with XMMS, but they still open with Kaffiene.  Anybody have an idea?
[06:35] <reldruh> Frostypants: how did you set mp3's to open with xmms/
[06:35] <reldruh> ?
[06:35] <KorN[CM] > any dmraid gurus here???? I need some help please.
[06:36] <Frostypants> reldruh: right-click > open with
[06:36] <Frostypants> :)
[06:36] <reldruh> Frostypants: try rightclicking, go to properties, click the wrench icon next to type
[06:37] <reldruh> Frostypants: and change the application preference order. I'm not sure it'll work, but I think doing 'open with' is a one time only thing
[06:37] <Frostypants> aaah
[06:37] <Frostypants> thank you very much!
[06:37] <Frostypants> :)
[06:37] <Frostypants> that did the trick hehe
[06:37] <reldruh> Frostypants: you're welcome :-)
[06:38] <reldruh> Frostypants: out of curiosity, do you know if backing up my ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok folder will back up my song ratings and play counts?
[06:38] <reldruh> I don't want to hose my amarok stats
[06:39] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  make a new user.. copy that dir over to his home and see...
[06:39] <Dr_willis> those amarok stats are sooo critical. :)
[06:40] <reldruh> Dr_willis: do I detect a hint of sarcasm? :-)
[06:40] <Frostypants> reldruh: I'm honestly not sure.  I don't use amarok very much.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> be sure to change ownership of the dir after ya copy it to the new users home dir
[06:40] <Frostypants> sorry :(
[06:40] <reldruh> I reinstall OS's pretty frequently. I'd like to not start over so often
[06:40] <reldruh> Frostypants: that's OK
[06:40] <reldruh> thanks Dr_willis. I'll try it now
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Its a 'good' idea to backup your .kde dir every so often ..  if you really have lots of imporntant stuff.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> I keep my /home on its own hard drive.. so when i reinstall. it keeps it safe
[06:41] <Dr_willis> HOWEVER.. some times different disrtos and even updateed versions of kde/gnome have issues with the older settings from the old /home
[06:42] <reldruh> Dr_willis: I've got a laptop. I'd love to keep my home directory on my server but that doesn't sound like it's portable at all
[06:42] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  lots of options.. depends on your exact needs.
[06:44] <reldruh> Dr_willis: I reinstall OS's rather often. I'd like to have a backup of settings and things (like amarok stats and my fstab), but I don't have a lot of extra hard drive space. Is backing up .kde my best bet?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  ,kde is just your users kde settings and cache and other kde specific data.  shouldent be more then a few mb id guess.. you may want to backup your whole /home every so often.
[06:46] <d0uglas> hi.. so i got really drunk last night and apparently i installed kubuntu.. now it's asking for a username/password. Is there some default one because my normal ones are not working and i cannot remember... argh.. ?
[06:46] <pgdown> reldruh: look into a separate /home partition
[06:46] <pgdown> so you dont have to lose any setting
[06:46] <reldruh> pgdown: would that just entail changing fstab?
[06:47] <reldruh> d0uglas: you can install OS's drunk? I can barely do it sober :-)
[06:47] <jontec> should modprobe atiixp take forever to execute?
[06:47] <d0uglas> :) okay but seriously is there a default l/p?
[06:47] <pgdown> creating the partiton and mounting it on /home...here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[06:47] <d0uglas> i woke up, looked at the box, it asked to remove the disk etc and gave me a login prompt (gui)
[06:48] <d0uglas> do i need to reinstall this mutha
[06:49] <Dr_willis> boot to single user mode, and set the initial users password
[06:49] <Dr_willis> 'rescue mode' 'restore mode' whatever the *#*@ its called. :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> i forget.
[06:50] <d0uglas> Dr_willis: with the cd? or do i do a "f8" kinda thing a la windows?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> boot the cd.. look at the menus
[06:50] <d0uglas> ok
[06:51] <Dr_willis> or boot the live cd. and mount your / you isntalled to and chroot/ use passwd command..
[06:51] <Dr_willis> or.... theres a dozen + things ya could do. :)
[06:52] <d0uglas> okay, i got a boot screen, Start or instlal Kubuntu, Start Kubuntu ins afe graphics mode, etc... do i want hte first or second
[06:52] <d0uglas> btw i am currently returning to the drunk state
[06:53] <d0uglas> ... guess i'll go with safe mode
[06:55] <reldruh> Dr_willis: if I wanted to compile kde from source, would there be a lot of things I'd have to change to get it to work as well as kubuntu?
[06:55] <KorN[CM] > any dmraid gurus here???? I need some help please.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  perhaps.. never tried.. :)  never wanted to.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> compiling KDe from source.. is not a job for the meek.
[06:57] <reldruh> Dr_willis: I'd like to see what it's like without any changes the kubuntu devs make
[06:57] <reldruh> vanilla kde, I guess
[06:57] <d0uglas> Doing a little switacharoo on my momma's xp laptop to kubuntu (i'm a debian guy myself).
[06:58] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  get a live cd from some other disrto then. and try it.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> MUCH easier
[06:58] <reldruh> Dr_willis: what distro comes with vanilla kde?
[06:58] <d0uglas> ooo bluetooth adapter found nice
[06:58] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  thers some extra packatges you can install that converts kubuntus kde to a more vanilla one..
[06:58] <reldruh> such as?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> all ive noticed kubuntu doing is changing some default themes and profiles and so forth.. The KUBUNTU faq mentions this
[06:59] <Dr_willis> I think Gentoo has the most Vanilla/standard KDE setup you may want to ask in #kde
[06:59] <jontec> will someone answer me? should modprobe take forever to execute... my computer seems to be doing nothing
[06:59] <Dr_willis> I know the latest SUSE 10.2 had a Heavely tweaked KDE (and gnome even) setup.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> jontec,  shoudlet take much time at all.
[07:00] <Dr_willis> try 'dmesg' in another shell
[07:00] <KorN[CM] > can someone help me to install latest dmraid please? I've tried NUMEROUS times and it fails
[07:00] <reldruh> Dr_willis: I tried Gentoo once before.  That was a difficult experience. Rather traumatic.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> reldruh,  yep.. i used gentoo for quite some time... and really.. i dident gain much from it
[07:01] <Dr_willis> but it was the most 'use the defaults' disrto ive seen for KDE and gnome.
[07:01] <jontec> Dr_wills: question... can I clear it (dmesg)? (and if I use modprobe on the wrong module can I use it again to reverse the effects?)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> and other window managers
[07:02] <Dr_willis> modprobing a network card module, or whatever. for a device you wont have.. shouldent affect anyting
[07:02] <Dr_willis> i belive in most cases the module checks for the hardware.. sees its not there.. then exits/unloads
[07:02] <Dr_willis> but it may depend on the module.
[07:03] <jontec> Dr_willis: well it was atiixp... I think it's really important...?
[07:03] <KorN[CM] > can someone help me to install latest dmraid please? I've tried NUMEROUS times and it fails
[07:04] <Dr_willis> jontec,  you loaded atiixp when you shouldent of?
[07:04] <jontec> Dr_willis: yes... I did 'modprobe atiixp' (atiixp is supposed to be installed)
[07:05] <jontec> Dr_willis: instead of snd-atiixp
[07:05] <Dr_willis> snd-atiixp is the sound card module for the atiixp 'chipset' I would think you would load them both..
[07:05] <d0uglas> i'm a debian guy... is there an apt-get equiv with kubunutu
[07:05] <Dr_willis> atiixp seems to be ide controller card drivers modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/atiixp.ko
[07:06] <Dr_willis> d0dge,  apt-get equiv ?
[07:06] <d0uglas> ... or maybe there is apt-get itself?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> kubuntu uses 'apt-get install whatebver 'and so forth
[07:06] <d0uglas> lol similar irc nicks
[07:06] <jontec> Dr_willis: but wasn't it already loaded? and since modprobe automatically detects whether or not it should load/unload the module... didn't it unload it?
[07:06] <d0uglas> well cool okay then
[07:06] <Dr_willis> You are making kubuntu  too hard.   :)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> jontec,  check the lsmod command..
[07:07] <Dr_willis> jontec,  when in doubt.. ya could reboot. i guess
[07:07] <jontec> Dr_willis: won't it prevent it from booting? O.O
[07:07] <jontec> or are they loaded automatically at startup?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> jontec,  modprobe does NOT make somthing boot autimatically at bootup
[07:08] <Dr_willis> i just did a modprobe atiixp,
[07:08] <Dr_willis> the module is loaded.. so its in memory.. nothing is using it.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> rmmod atiixp
[07:08] <Dr_willis> removed it
[07:08] <Dr_willis> lsmod | grep ati  :) shows it there then gone.
[07:09] <jontec> Dr_willis: ooooh... I was thinking that modprobe did what rmmod does... gotcha
[07:09] <Dr_willis> IF the hardware is there.. then the system installed/should of seen and loaded the module at boottime
[07:09] <Dr_willis> if for some reason its not loading the module automaticially at boot when it should.. you can force it to load it.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> if it was loading a module it SHOULD NOT be loading.. there are ways to make it not do that also.
[07:10] <Dr_willis> so.... err... what is the Actual problem anyway jontec  ? :)
[07:11] <Dr_willis> befor i go to sleep  its 1 am here
[07:11] <jontec> Dr_willis: well about a month (possible plus a half) ago I was following a tutorial and removed the sound card setup installed by ubuntu... the sound and mixer and everything worked, but no sound... I tried all of the different settings... (now I'm thinking I had the wrong driver)
[07:12] <jontec> Dr_willis: so what I just did was download the drivers, tools, and utils for alsa x.xx.13... and am trying to fix it... I remember having this problem before
[07:12] <d0uglas> installing kubuntu on my momma's laptop without her consent :)
[07:12] <jontec> Dr_willis: the problem with the modprobe I mean..
[07:13] <jontec> Dr_willis: link: http://speeves.unt.edu/newindex/?p=211 (same chipset)
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. over my head then im guessing.  Ive not had to mess with the alsa stuff in ages.. gotta love using Creative SB sound cards...
[07:15] <jontec> Dr_willis: okay... do you know if there's any step that I need to go through before running the modprobe? I just did the ./configure and (sudo, when necessary) make install
[07:15] <jontec> s
[07:15] <Dr_willis> shouldent be.  if everything installed/compiled right
[07:17] <Dr_willis> seems you may need to mess with the volume sliders after the first reboot to get things unmuted
[07:17] <jontec> hmmm... I don't see why it shouldn't have... oh and laptop is only running at 800MHz throughout the whole modprobe... (I don't think this will be a problem... went to 2GHz during the make and make installs)
[07:17] <jontec> Dr_willis: okay
[07:17] <jontec> Dr_willis: I'll try a quick reboot
[07:18] <Dr_willis> well i gotta go to ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......... land. :)
[07:18] <jontec> anything to add before I go?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> night
[07:18] <Dr_willis> good luck
[07:18] <Dr_willis> heh.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> when in doubt.. read/take notes/learn
[07:18] <jontec> Dr_willis: okay, then... I'll see what I cand, thanks :D
[07:22] <genii> q
[07:28] <christopher> how can I set how many bpp I want my desktop to be at?
[07:28] <christopher> i want to run doom3 but I need 24 bpp apparently, but i have no idea where to set it
[07:31] <flaccid> haha bye bye
[07:44] <smaggard> haha bye bye
[07:45] <jean-b> hello, i wish to add dictionnaries in other languages in OpenOffice
[07:46] <jean-b> what should i do?
[07:46] <smaggard> download the dictionaries in the desired language and install them
[07:46] <jean-b> do you know where those dics can be downloaded?
[07:47] <smaggard> hmmm
[07:47] <smaggard> !openoffice dictionaries
[07:47] <jean-b> come on ubot
[07:49] <smaggard> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries
[07:59] <manchicken> You could install them through adept.
[08:24] <jean-b> hi there
[08:24] <jean-b> do you know how to set a player in amule?
[08:33] <james> hello all
[08:33] <pradalover> how can i join efnet
[08:34] <sparr> is there a proper way to downgrade to an old version of a package in ubuntu?
[08:41] <firecrotch> !top
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <firecrotch> !uptime
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uptime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <flaccid> they are not packages, firecrotch
[08:42] <firecrotch> Can anyone tell me what the "load average" numbers from the 'top' and 'uptime' commands mean?
[08:42] <flaccid> man top
[08:42] <flaccid> man uptime
[08:42] <firecrotch> flaccid: read those.  Not very helpful really
[08:43] <flaccid> firecrotch: thats about all you got
[08:43] <firecrotch> All I'd really like to know is what are reasonable values
[08:44] <LobsterWing> hey gow do i start a program after i installed it in kubuntu
[08:44] <notech> iirc the load averages were times of 5, 10 and 15 minutes...but i could be wrong
[08:44] <sparr> given the choice between downgrading to an old ubuntu package or upgrading to a new debian package, which would you prefer?
[08:45] <flaccid> its a good question
[08:45] <flaccid> i still dont know and i been on nix for years
[08:45] <flaccid> sparr: new
[08:45] <flaccid> firecrotch: this will explaing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)#Load_calculation_under_Unix.28-like.29_systems
[08:46] <firecrotch> flaccid: thanks
[08:46] <leafw> !beryl
[08:46] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:47] <flaccid> np
[08:48] <leafw> any clues on why xorg runs at 1400x1050, but beryl only up to about 1280x1024 or so ?
[08:48] <leafw> beryl with xgl that is
[08:48] <firecrotch> So basically for my server, if it goes above 1.00, there is going to be a slow down caused by the load
[08:50] <flaccid> firecrotch: i don't know
[08:51] <flaccid> whatever that wiki page said :)
[08:51] <firecrotch> I was just relaying it to you... sorta summarizing it :)
[08:51] <flaccid> technically any load will slow down the system albeit marginally
[08:51] <flaccid> ok
[08:51] <ubuntu> hey everyone
[08:52] <ubuntu> I really need some help... im running Kubuntu 6.06, ive been using it for a while now.. learning as i go, but when i turned it on today i got a busy box message
[08:52] <ubuntu> can't acess tty; job control turned off
[08:52] <electuZ> hi all
[08:53] <ubuntu> im running live from the cd so i can get some help
[08:53] <ubuntu> anyone got any ideas?
[08:53] <animimotus> hi
[08:54] <ubuntu> hi animimotus
[08:54] <animimotus> by defaut a new user appart to what groups please?
[08:54] <animimotus> I have prob with /etc/skel
[08:56] <ubuntu> is there anyone here that can help a noob
[08:57] <animimotus> ubuntu: could you do a for me please just a test ? sudo adduser test && echo "test appart to :" && groups test && sudo deluser test
[08:57] <ubuntu> i cant because im running live off the cd, im in some serious trouble with mine right now
[08:57] <animimotus> ubuntu: sure, what's you question?
[08:58] <ubuntu> when i try to boot, i get a busybox error...  can't acess tty; job control turned off
[08:58] <ubuntu> ive never seen busy box before this
[08:58] <ubuntu> always happens after it says, mounting root file system
[09:00] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[09:00] <animimotus> ubuntu: I can't help, no idea :\
[09:00] <ubuntu> its all good.. thanks though
[09:01] <ubuntu> this seems to be a fairly unknown error
[09:08] <brunojoselebeau> salut
[09:13] <dwidmann> ubuntu, that error could be murder to track down. This is one of those times where I'd recommend a reinstall rather than trying to fix the problem (and there aren't many occasions where I would)
[09:17] <jerry_liu> hello
[09:23] <KorN[CM] > are there any dmraid gurus out there??? I'm having LOADS of trouble installing it
[09:45] <LobsterWing> how do you open a backup file?
[09:45] <ForgeAus> grrr why does frostwire not pick up my java?
[09:45] <ForgeAus> I have blackdown AND sun java
[09:46] <ForgeAus> (sun is 1.5 blackdown seems to be 1.4
[09:46] <ForgeAus> frostwire complains it finds 1.4 but doesn't even seem to look for 1.5
[09:46] <ForgeAus> can I fix it somehow?
[09:47] <heinkel_111> Good morning :-)
[09:47] <monsterb> ForgeAus you need to create a symbolic linik to java 1.5
[09:48] <ForgeAus> I tried that
[09:48] <ForgeAus> where?
[09:48] <ForgeAus> I put one in usr/java (to jre of sunjava)
[09:49] <heinkel_111> this is radically cool, I managed to set up so that I can access my (home) kubuntu server from my windows laptop and run applications in K windows :D
[09:49] <ForgeAus> or should it have been the main dir of sunjava? I don't know
[09:49] <monsterb> ForgeAus does frostwire have a plugin dir
[09:49] <ForgeAus> possibly
[09:49] <ForgeAus> but I can't even run frostwire
[09:49] <ForgeAus> I'm not even sure if its installed
[09:49] <ForgeAus> (I do have an icon to it tho)
[09:50] <heinkel_111> the only thing I am missing is my desktop components...how can i start the Kmenu, the panel etc from a ssh with X-fowarding
[09:50] <heinkel_111> ?
[09:50] <monsterb> type frostwire at command line
[09:50] <ForgeAus> thats when it complains it needs sun java
[09:50] <ForgeAus> 1.5+
[09:50] <ForgeAus> (it only finds blackdown 1.4)
[09:50] <ForgeAus> in the konsole
[09:50] <ForgeAus> if I run it from the K-menu it does absolutely nothing
[09:51] <ForgeAus> maybe my sym link is pointing to/from the wrong place?
[09:51] <ForgeAus> whats it meant to be? I was just guessing when I did it
[09:54] <monsterb> ForgeAus it should point to /usr/local/java/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:54] <ForgeAus> uh?
[09:54] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure I got that.. brb checking
[09:55] <ForgeAus> nope I don't
[09:55] <ForgeAus> according to adept I got sun-java-bin and jre installed...
[09:55] <ForgeAus> wait plugin? um damn can't go back and see if thats there
[09:56] <ForgeAus> but if it is wouldn't it be in firefox or mozilla?
[09:56] <ForgeAus> sun java installed into /usr/lib/jvm mostly
[09:59] <Nooby> Hey guys..
[09:59] <Nooby> anyone knows how to install Flash Player ??
[09:59] <ForgeAus> why does it say LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/squeak/3.7-7/npsqueak.so [/usr/lib/squeak/3.7-7/npsqueak.so: undefined symbol: XtStrings] ?
[10:00] <ForgeAus> squeak isn't java!
[10:00] <ForgeAus> is it?
[10:00] <Nooby> ??
[10:00] <monsterb> ForgeAus not sure
[10:01] <Nooby> Experts.. help me out here.
[10:01] <nobias> nooby - install firefox
[10:01] <nobias> and it should automatically install flash plugins
[10:01] <nobias> when you enter a site with flash
[10:02] <Nooby> it doesnt :(
[10:02] <ForgeAus> adept also has flash plugin depending on what repositories are installed
[10:02] <Nooby> let me try again.
[10:02] <ForgeAus> erm pointing to more than installed
[10:02] <monsterb> Nooby did you download flash 9?
[10:02] <Nooby> let me try the automatic installation
[10:02] <ForgeAus> nope doesn't seem like I have the plugin :(
[10:03] <monsterb> Nooby auto does not work
[10:03] <Nooby> monster so what should I do ?
[10:03] <ForgeAus> GRRRR I installed java from sun but the browser says I dont have it! thats wierd...
[10:03] <nobias> general question : why does a clean install of kubuntu use almost 60%+ of my RAM whereas a clean install of ubuntu uses only 10%~
[10:04] <ForgeAus> its there but nothing picks it up
[10:04] <monsterb> Nooby download flash9 in tgz - http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[10:04] <monsterb> Nooby extract tgz and run installer
[10:05] <Nooby> monsterb, let me try.
[10:06] <nobias>  is KDE supposed to be very processor ram heavy vs gnome?
[10:06] <joey_> Any body know how to install theme
[10:06] <joey_> ?
[10:06] <joey_> Any body
[10:07] <joey_> How to install KDE theme
[10:07] <monsterb> Nooby after extracting you can drop libflashplayer.so in your firefox plugin directory instead of installing.
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> nobias: slighlty less than gnome
[10:07] <joey_> well i'am new to KDE
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> joey_: easy, if its a theme tarball you just install it via kcontrol
[10:07] <Nooby> ok monsterb, thanks let me try
[10:08] <joey_> whats kcontrol?
[10:08] <Nooby> for some reason I am not able to download.. can anyone send me here :/
[10:08] <joey_> lol
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> joey_: press ctrl alt F2  then type kcontrol
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> oops  alt F2  sorry
[10:08] <joey_> then
[10:08] <joey_> thx!
[10:08] <nobias> shot in the dark here, has anyone installed k/ubuntu on a sony S460 laptop?
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> joey_: look under look and feel
[10:09] <joey_> yeah
[10:09] <monsterb> Nooby on Adobe site - right click on tgz - save as
[10:10] <Nooby> its weird, really slow speed on download.. 2 kbps :(
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> joey_: if you get a theme of window theme or icon theme from kde-look.org  they often have a install link to tell you what to do
[10:10] <joey_> what version?
[10:10] <joey_> yeah
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> s/of/or/
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> !flash
[10:10] <joey_> KDE 3.0
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <joey_> -  KDE 3.1
[10:10] <joey_> -  KDE 3.2 - 3.5
[10:10] <joey_> -  KDE 4.0
[10:10] <joey_> -  GTK 1.x
[10:10] <joey_> -  Theme-Manager
[10:10] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:10] <joey_> ??
[10:10] <joey_> what
[10:11] <ForgeAus> can I get firefox to autoinstall sun java plugin?
[10:11] <joey_> KDE 3.0
[10:11] <joey_> -  KDE 3.1
[10:11] <joey_> -  KDE 3.2 - 3.5
[10:11] <joey_> -  KDE 4.0
[10:11] <joey_> -  GTK 1.x
[10:11] <joey_> -  Theme-Manager
[10:11] <joey_> What NOW!
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> joey_: stop spamming you will get banned
[10:11] <joey_> is it 3.2?
[10:11] <joey_> yeah
[10:11] <monsterb> !flash9 | Nooby
[10:11] <ubotu> Nooby: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:11] <ForgeAus> or do I have to do it with a tarball?
[10:11] <joey_> is it KDE 3.1
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> joey_: ??
[10:12] <Nooby> ubotu, what are backports & !flash :S ??
[10:12] <joey_> I'am at KDE look
[10:12] <joey_> but I don't know what to download
[10:13] <joey_> Please help
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> joey_:  learn patience
[10:13] <monsterb> joey_ most likely you have kde 3.55
[10:13] <joey_> thx
[10:14] <monsterb> !ssh
[10:14] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:14] <Linux_Galore> joey_: any kde 3.X style will work
[10:15] <joey_> ok
[10:15] <ForgeAus> ahh fixed it!
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> joey_: in actual fact a theme is made of four components  the 1, style  2. icons set 3. Windows decorations 4. colour , you can mix and match them
[10:16] <joey_> yep
[10:16] <joey_> I know just like int ubuntu
[10:16] <ForgeAus> I switched the link directory to the one above it
[10:16] <Linux_Galore> joey_: I usually install the parts, that way I can manage each one
[10:16] <joey_> :)
[10:16] <joey_> thx
[10:16] <Linux_Galore> joey_: if you look in "Look and Feel" in kcontrol there is a section for each one of those things
[10:17] <joey_> yep
[10:17] <joey_> I think I like clasic
[10:17] <monsterb> ForgeAus cool
[10:18] <Linux_Galore> joey_: I prefere serenity  -> http://users.tpg.com.au/abdserv6/serenity1.png
[10:18] <stamen> hi
[10:18] <stamen> how to check ext3
[10:19] <joey_> ok
[10:19] <stamen> partitions
[10:19] <stamen> fschk ?
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> stamen: for what ??
[10:19] <stamen> for errors
[10:19] <stamen> lets say
[10:19] <Linux_Galore> stamen:  fsck.ext3
[10:20] <joey_> aw do i install color skin
[10:20] <stamen> ok
[10:20] <Linux_Galore> joey_: you shouldnt really have to ubuntu comes with heaps already
[10:20] <joey_> got it
[10:20] <joey_> hehehe
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> joey_: what i do is select one thats very close then just adjust it
[10:21] <joey_> kk
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> joey_: there is also a few themes on the kubuntu repo, look in adept
[10:22] <joey_> ok
[10:22] <joey_> but i dont have kubuntu repo
[10:22] <joey_> just ubuntu
[10:22] <Linux_Galore> joey_: thing they are called   kde-style-<theme-name>
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> joey_: same thing
[10:23] <joey_> i'll try it
[10:23] <kaatil> hi all, i have question, how to upgrade to edgy from apt-get?
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> think*
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: dont
[10:23] <kaatil> oh?
[10:23] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: if you asking that question dont do it
[10:23] <kaatil> ah ok :3
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: trust me Ive been working with Linux for over 8 years and it took me 9 days to get it all working after an update
[10:24] <kaatil> i see
[10:24] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: save yourself allot of time and backup /home  and do a fresh install
[10:25] <monsterb> Linux_Galore, kaatil, i had the same problem with edgy this time.
[10:26] <kaatil> ah ok, i will keep that in mind, thanks.
[10:26] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: there are a few methods to do the update
[10:26] <kaatil> ah
[10:26] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: just beware things have a habbit of breaking
[10:26] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: some people get lucky and it work
[10:27] <Linux_Galore> s
[10:27] <Linux_Galore> I have yet to get a single update that works
[10:27] <KorN[CM] > can someone help me adding deb-source for feisty (Im using edgy but need to get newer dmraid)
[10:28] <kaatil> heck.. i remember back in the day when something break i has to reinstall... one time when i has this computer name goes blank... my ubuntu wont work anymore even i cant use administor thing. heh
[10:28] <kaatil> one thing i have to be careful for, not to put computer name blank.
[10:29] <kaatil> oops i mean by hostname/domain name.. whatever it is
[10:29] <YumeNoEien> Hi everyone
[10:29] <kaatil> hi Yume
[10:29] <YumeNoEien> Whats up :)
[10:29] <kaatil> nada
[10:30] <YumeNoEien> cool =3
[10:30] <kaatil> nothing much, just being curious about edgy of kubuntu.
[10:30] <YumeNoEien> your not a user yet?
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: always try kdesu update-manager -c
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> kaatil: need the edgy cd though
[10:30] <YumeNoEien> im new to edgy myself :p
[10:30] <kaatil> ooooooh
[10:30] <kaatil> i see
[10:30] <kaatil> i think about burn cd for edgy
[10:31] <kaatil> athough not now.
[10:32] <YumeNoEien> linux_Galore: if i set an alias in the CLI, is it removed after i reboot? and if so, how do i get it to stay?
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: yep
[10:32] <kaatil> well you can bother to setup a startup script to add all aliases automatically. :p
[10:33] <kaatil> i guess. :)
[10:33] <YumeNoEien> kaatil: how do i do that?
[10:33] <kaatil> have you heard of bash script?
[10:33] <YumeNoEien> ive read it here and there but im not quite sure what it is
[10:34] <Nooby> guys where can I download the codecs?
[10:34] <Nooby> for mp3 and divx.
[10:35] <kaatil> ah
[10:35] <Nooby> Kaatil, kidhar kay ho ??
[10:35] <kaatil> eh?
[10:35] <YumeNoEien> hes calling you a ho
[10:35] <YumeNoEien> !!
[10:35] <Nooby> lol
[10:35] <heinkel_111> !restricted formats
[10:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:35] <YumeNoEien> xD
[10:35] <kaatil> well i am a man, how can you call me that 'ho?' :)
[10:35] <heinkel_111> ^^ kaatil
[10:35] <kaatil> i thougth that word is for woman. :3
[10:36] <Nooby> kaatil where u from, kaatils an urdu word meaning murderer.
[10:36] <kaatil> ah yeah... kaatil heh
[10:36] <heinkel_111> !restricted formats >kaatil
[10:36] <kaatil> indian thing yeah
[10:36] <YumeNoEien> lol, as if ho wasnt bad enough
[10:36] <kaatil> i know
[10:36] <kaatil> someone told me about it, Nooby
[10:36] <stamen> !xgl
[10:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:36] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: just add them to the ~/.bashrc  file
[10:37] <kaatil> i just thought of 'kaatil' but i didnt know that it actually mean murderer in different language. :)
[10:37] <YumeNoEien> kaatil: how do i set up a startup script to add my aliasses automatically?
[10:37] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: just add them to the ~/.bashrc  file
[10:37] <YumeNoEien> cool thank Linux_
[10:38] <kaatil> :3
[10:38] <kaatil> well.. linux_galore saves my neck.
[10:38] <kaatil> athough i dont know how to add it to startup.. atleast i know now. :p
[10:39] <YumeNoEien> the .bashrc in root right?
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: no  ~/  means /home/user_name
[10:40] <DettoAltrimenti> I am trying to connect to a wireless router on kubuntu, but it requires a username and password: where do I put the username and password? also, the connection should be PPPoE I think, if that's important
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: every user has his own  .bashrc  file in their home directory
[10:40] <kaatil> yeah go to console and type '~' you will see that it point to your home
[10:40] <kaatil> yeah
[10:41] <YumeNoEien> Linux_Galore: oh okay thanks ^^
[10:42] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: never edit the system settings when you can do it in the users settings, it has a habbit of biting you in the ass
[10:42] <YumeNoEien> Linux_Galore: lol, il keep that in mind :)
[10:43] <YumeNoEien> btw i found the file in the CLI but not in GUI, even though its there
[10:43] <YumeNoEien> how do i edit it?
[10:43] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: also copy the .bashrc  file before you edit it, in fact also  copy your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file   too in case you stuff up your desktop settings and cant get back
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: kdesu kate
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: sorry just kate
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: any editor will do
[10:44] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: its just a text file
[10:44] <YumeNoEien> k, il cope the firectory and then try editing the .bash
[10:45] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: just copy the file  .bashrc  ie type   cp  .bashrc  bashrc-bak
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien: alt F2,  then  cp   ~/.bashrc  bashrc-bak ,   should do it
[10:47] <YumeNoEien> LinuxGalore i cant see he textfilre, the CLI says its in the home dir, but if im in Konquerer i cant see it
[10:47] <Linux_Galore> YumeNoEien:  aah click on View  then show hidden files
[10:47] <Linux_Galore> in konqueror
[10:48] <stamen> hi
[10:48] <stamen> I folowed the how to for setting XGL server
[10:49] <stamen> but it is not loaded
[10:49] <stamen> how to load it
[10:49] <stamen> !xgl
[10:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:49] <stamen> http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez -> I made this
[10:49] <nuxil> hi all
[10:49] <Linux_Galore> stamen: I would help you but I know its unstable and breaks allot so i wont
[10:50] <stamen> but the script which is written musn't be thre
[10:50] <Linux_Galore> stamen: you will be beack in 2 days asking how to turn it of
[10:50] <stamen> aaa, ok
[10:50] <stamen> so not to do XGL
[10:50] <Linux_Galore> stamen: no its still experimental
[10:51] <stamen> aa, ok when its final I will install it
[10:51] <Linux_Galore> stamen: not everything works and it can make you machine crash like clockwork
[10:51] <stamen> :)
[10:51] <stamen> ok
[10:51] <stamen> I won't install it
[10:51] <stamen> 10x
[10:51] <YumeNoEien> done
[10:52] <Linux_Galore> stamen: if you want to play with xgl go get a live cd thats does it ie knoppix, trust me 15 minutes and you will be yawning
[10:52] <nuxil> i have a questuion,, my isp's dns is down.. well i cant browse sites with hostname only with ip.. but my question is realy.. howcome i can ping hostname?  like i can ping vg.no to get the ip,, then i open my browser to connect with that ip..
[10:52] <KorN[CM] > nuxil use a different dns
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > http://www.opendns.com/
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > for example
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > nuxil
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > ^^
[10:53] <nuxil> lol
[10:53] <nuxil> ok
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > ah u need the ip :P
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > lol
[10:53] <nuxil> just need to ping the site first :P
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > there ya go
[10:53] <KorN[CM] > http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:54] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: <IP_ADDRESS>   instant dns
[10:54] <nuxil> alright.. let me look into that..
[10:54] <nuxil> thanks guys
[10:55] <nuxil> but you didnt answer my question :P
[10:55] <nuxil>  howcome i can ping hostname?
[10:55] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: never set both the dns addresses as the isp's  use a publuc one and your isp's
[10:55] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: cached address
[10:55] <nuxil> ic
[10:56] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: try something you havent visited recently
[10:56] <nuxil> so let me try with that <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:02] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: you can also use opendns    <IP_ADDRESS>   or <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:02] <Linux_Galore> thats what i usually use, the isp's dns sux
[11:03] <nuxil> Linux_Galore, so does mine
[11:04] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: pretty normal, they usually have some semi retired machine running a dns server
[11:05] <nuxil> hey.. that dns worked strait away :)
[11:05] <nuxil> thank you
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: what one
[11:05] <nuxil>  <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> aaah yeah, opendsn,  they also filter crap too
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> opendns*
[11:06] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: http://www.opendns.com/
[11:07] <nuxil> yea,, KorN[CM]   posted it before your <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:07] <nuxil> which didnt work..
[11:07] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: I find the isps also dont cache the old domains well when people forget to register them and that fall of the registry,  opendns keep the old domains for a while
[11:08] <nuxil> thats good..  i'll start to use opendns from now on ;D
[11:09] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: down side is when our domain didnt get re registered we didnt know for a week  lol
[11:09] <Linux_Galore> nuxil: our IT contractor fsked up and forgot to get us to pay the once every 3 year fee
[11:11] <nuxil> hehe..
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> people rang us up and said, I cant connect to your home page" the help people being bright sparks just typed in the url for our home page and bingo there is was
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> it*
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> I was on holiday and I had to ring work to tell them the domain had fallen of the internet and to talk to the IT guy
[11:14] <nuxil> well.. im considering changing my isp.. cos this is the 2nd time this year this has happend.. i lost track how many times it happend last year,,
[11:14] <nuxil> but luckley you came to my rescue :P
[11:17] <ForgeAus> bbl
[11:17] <YmueNoEien> argh
[11:17] <YumeNoEien> better
[11:18] <YumeNoEien> okay so ive learned cd ls mv rm and alias. Does anyone know any commands i might want to learn next?
[11:19] <YumeNoEien> :o 327 ppl afk? lol
[11:19] <YumeNoEien> ^^
[11:20] <eaf> hello
[11:20] <eaf> what is the last kubuntu version ??
[11:21] <dwidmann> Ubuntu = Edgy, KDE = 3.5.6
[11:22] <dwidmann> YumeOnGoogle: cut, sed, vim, cp, grep, less/more, cat, head, tail....
[11:23] <dwidmann> YumeOnGoogle: Oh, and don't forget about man, good command
[11:23] <eaf> the kubuntu only cd or can i find dvd ??
[11:23] <eaf> with a lot of software
[11:23] <YumeOnGoogle> dwidmann: thanks
[11:24] <YumeOnGoogle> dwidmann: ill man those commands right now
[11:26] <dwidmann> eaf: dvd is available
[11:27] <YumeOnMan> dwidmann: i dont understand what the cut command is for, is it do display content of text files?
[11:28] <dwidmann> YumeOnMan: cut is for taking apart input that was sent to the command, and displaying only a portion of it (or sending that portion as the input into another command, via a | (pipe)
[11:28] <dwidmann> example: (one sec)
[11:28] <YumeOnMan> k
[11:31] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:31] <YumeNoEien> hi Ace
[11:31] <YumeNoEien> bye Ace
[11:32] <dwidmann> An elaborate example:
[11:32] <dwidmann> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'cpu MHz' | head -1 | cut -d : -f 2 | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | cut -d '.' -f 1
[11:33] <dwidmann> or better yet, even more elaborate:
[11:33] <dwidmann> echo `cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'cpu MHz' | head -1 | cut -d : -f 2 | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | cut -d '.' -f 1`MHz
[11:33] <YumeNoEien> o.O
[11:33] <YumeNoEien> i think i should have told you
[11:33] <zyth> hehe
[11:34] <YumeNoEien> i started learning working with the CLI since the day before yesterday
[11:34] <dwidmann> No better way to learn then to try to dive off the deep end :O
[11:34] <YumeNoEien> that looks VERY intimidating to a beginner like me :)
[11:34] <YumeNoEien> haha true true
[11:34] <zyth> man's favourite term - #!/bin/sh ;)
[11:34] <dwidmann> echo = print text on the screen
[11:35] <zyth> cat = list file contents
[11:35] <dwidmann> the | is used to send input from one command into another
[11:35] <dwidmann> grep = search for text in a file
[11:35] <zyth> to a dvice... default is display
[11:35] <YumeNoEien> Ah now it makes sense!
[11:35] <YumeNoEien> wait im gonna copy paste this into a .txt
[11:36] <zyth> you can also grep a file for terms and send it to a file via >
[11:36] <dwidmann> the head command (or tail command) lets you pick how many lines from the start(or the end) of a file you want to display, so head -1 = show the first line
[11:36] <zyth> grep foo foo.bar > foo.txt
[11:37] <dwidmann> the cut command lets you cut a line (or lines) of text at a certain space, seperating it into fields, so lets say you seperate at a colon, you'd have a field to the left of the colon, and a field to the right
[11:38] <dwidmann> And if it helps any, I taught myself how to do this spontaneously when I wanted to edit something that was in what might as well have been greek.
[11:39] <dwidmann> Coming up with that single golden line for that applet took me hours, and it only takes me about 30 seconds to a minute now :)
[11:41] <YumeNoEien> lol
[11:41] <YumeNoEien> okay im gonna try and use that command right now
[11:42] <YumeNoEien> wait, you guys keep mentioning a 'file', what is this file?
[11:42] <dwidmann> Well, file is a really generic term. EVERYTHING in *NIX is a file.
[11:42] <Ace2016> Hi YumeNoEien
[11:43] <YumeNoEien> hi Ace
[11:43] <harmental> hi everybody....i keep getting this recurrent problem with edgy....
[11:43] <dwidmann> In the case of the commands mentioned above, they also take straight text YumeNoEien
[11:43] <harmental> my swap disapears at every startup...
[11:43] <harmental> q
[11:43] <Ace2016> what do you mean disapears?
[11:43] <dwidmann> harmental: try using "sudo swapon <device>" and see what it says.
[11:43] <Ace2016> not mounted?
[11:44] <harmental> Ace2016: yeap...
[11:44] <harmental> dwidmann:
[11:44] <harmental> sudo swapon /dev/hda6 for instance?
[11:44] <dwidmann> Sure
[11:45] <harmental> dwidmann: swapon: /dev/hda6: Invalid argument
[11:45] <dwidmann> Hmm,
[11:45] <dwidmann> forgot about that
[11:45] <dwidmann> try sudo swapon -a
[11:46] <dwidmann> or better yet, -av (mount all swaps, be verbose)
[11:47] <harmental> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2ca3f789-4f39-42ba-b776-d498b790b6d5: Invalid argument
[11:47] <harmental> (for the first...)
[11:47] <harmental> swapon on /dev/disk/by-uuid/2ca3f789-4f39-42ba-b776-d498b790b6d5
[11:47] <harmental> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2ca3f789-4f39-42ba-b776-d498b790b6d5: Invalid argument
[11:47] <harmental> for the second
[11:47] <harmental> (sorry for the flooding)
[11:48] <YumeNoEien> its okay now
[11:48] <YumeNoEien> :)
[11:48] <dwidmann> harmental, hmmm, that's odd/interesting, swapon -a said that?
[11:49] <harmental> dwidmann: yeap...invalid argument...
[11:49] <dwidmann> you only did "sudo swapon -av", not "sudo swapon -av /dev/hda6" right? (sorry if I wasn't clear)
[11:50] <harmental> dwidmann: yeap....sudo swapon -av
[11:50] <DettoAltrimenti> how can you connect to a wireless connection that requires a username and password?
[11:50] <dwidmann> harmental, I have an idea, though it might sound a bit extreme, should work though
[11:50] <YumeNoEien> DettoAltrimenti: im not knowledgeable about this but
[11:51] <YumeNoEien> shouldnt the login and pass be set in the settings of the modem
[11:51] <YumeNoEien> not sure though
[11:51] <harmental> dwidmann: im all ears...
[11:51] <DettoAltrimenti> well, my problem is the wireless utility connects to the router, doesn't prompt me for a username and password, and doesn't work
[11:51] <tom_> hi everyone
[11:52] <tom_> what's the package that has pam_syslog in kubuntu?
[11:52] <zyth> DettoAltrimenti: without setting up wpa_supplicant, I do believe only WEP is supported out of box
[11:52] <dwidmann> harmental, well, here's the procedure, in general. Boot with a live cd, delete the swap partition, recreate it. , edit your fstab to suit. See if it will work for you
[11:52] <DettoAltrimenti> in windows, I had to create a new broadband connection, and every time I restart my computer I have to 'log on' to this connection after I'm connected to the wireless connection
[11:53] <harmental> dwidmann: ok...i dont have a live CD....i should get one.......
[11:53] <zyth> mmm.new wine 0.9.30 deb
[11:54] <dwidmann> harmental, I would recommend it. Something like "SystemRescueDisk" or DSL would work if you have a lesser internet connection (Like me ...)
[11:54] <dwidmann> else, Knoppix or even Kubuntu makes for a good live cd.
[11:55] <dwidmann> Thinking of LIve CDs for rescue purposes & maximum functionality, Knoppix > Kubuntu
[11:56] <harmental> ok...in the meantime...how can i get the uuid of some drive?
[11:57] <zyth> whoa nwn segaults
[11:57] <zyth> haha
[11:57] <dwidmann> zyth, neverwinter nights ... I never did get around to it
[11:59] <dwidmann> !uuid
[11:59] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:59] <harmental> dwidmann: i think i understood what my problem is...The uuid ofr my swap partition changes at every startup.....
[11:59] <zyth> its segfaulting
[11:59] <zyth> I may not have SDL installed.. hmm
[11:59] <dwidmann> harmental: hmm, that's not good, set it such that it doesn't use uuid in fstab and see what happens.
[11:59] <dwidmann> libsdl1.2debian-all
[11:59] <dwidmann> I think
[12:01] <zyth> I hate adept.
[12:01] <zyth> sigh
[12:01] <zyth> its like utter crap compared to synaptic
[12:01] <YumeNoEien> use apt-get instead then :p
[12:02] <dwidmann> or aptitude
[12:02] <dwidmann> I recently swtiched to aptitude, mixed feelings on the matter.
[12:02] <pradalover> can anyone tell me how I am find an IRC user
[12:05] <dwidmann> pradalover, look at the list on the right?
[12:12] <dwidmann> whoa, 6:14am already :O
[12:15] <dwidmann> 26 hours so far, lets see how long I can keep this going :D
[12:22] <pradalover> #OperHelp
[12:30] <nagyv> how can I subscribe the wiki pages on the ubuntu wiki? ~~~~ doesn't work
[12:31] <JOSF> Any ideas how to load an image via DCOP into Krita ?
[12:31] <YumeNoEien> bye everyone
[12:36] <matt0507> kaffiene is giving me this error and cant play back my dvd, anyone know how to get it fixed?
[12:36] <matt0507> xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd://0.0]
[12:36] <matt0507> xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [dvd://0.0]
[12:37] <nuxil> alright... i got a small problem.. im about to download edgy.. i just put my new mobo and graf card together,, installed winblows first i have.. however,, when i try to download the dvd iso. it stops after 2.2 MB. any ideas?
[12:37] <nuxil> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/edgy/release/
[12:37] <nuxil> is the site im trying to dl from
[12:38] <andreasw> maybe try another mirror
[12:39] <nuxil> i tryed this one too.. http://nginyang.uvt.nl/kubuntu/edgy/ same thing happend here.. 2.2 MB is only downloaded
[12:39] <andreasw> with which program do you download the iso
[12:39] <nuxil> firefox
[12:39] <andreasw> just tested it and I can download more that 2.2mb
[12:40] <nuxil> firefox 2
[12:40] <dwidmann> matt0507, I was just talking about that yesterday, and I know of a thread where a person solved that very problem :)
[12:40] <andreasw> nuxil: hmm already tried it with another webbrowser?
[12:40] <andreasw> nuxil: or a download manager
[12:40] <nuxil> i got no other browsers
[12:41] <andreasw> you are downloading from windows or linux?
[12:41] <nuxil> this is the beast eddition of windows xp.. firefox 1.5 is the only browser in it,, i upgraded it to 2 tho
[12:41] <nuxil> winblows
[12:41] <andreasw> IE is also included in every windows
[12:41] <sf_> what is the command to restart kde? i can't remember its something like sudo /etc/initd?/5 start
[12:41] <nuxil> andreasw, NOT in this one :D
[12:41] <andreasw> sf_: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:42] <andreasw> nuxil: maybe you have that problem with every download
[12:42] <nuxil> andreasw, no i dont.
[12:42] <nuxil> andreasw, i just dl the newest nvidia drivers and its way bigger than 2,2 MB
[12:43] <johnn> the windows firewall blocks the download of linux iso images *scnr*
[12:43] <andreasw> johnn: rofl
[12:43] <nuxil> lol
[12:43] <andreasw> nuxil: Well I have no idea whats wrong than You download the i386 image or the 64bit one?
[12:43] <johnn> nuxil there is wget for windows maybe you try it with that..
[12:44] <nuxil> andreasw, 64 bit version
[12:44] <andreasw> ok I only tested the 32 bit ^^
[12:44] <nuxil> johnn, oh,, nice,., i'll try that
[12:44] <matt0507> dwidmann:  woudl you please tell me where to find your mentioned thread?
[12:44] <dwidmann> nuxil: 32 bit drivers won't work with the 64-bit kernel. Period.
[12:44] <dwidmann> matt0507, I'm digging it up
[12:45] <andreasw> dwidmann: at least for nvidia there are 64bit drivers
[12:45] <nuxil> dwidmann, hu? what are you talking about.
[12:45] <johnn> nuxil http://www.christopherlewis.com/WGet/WGetFiles.htm this is kind of official site for windows builds
[12:46] <nuxil> dwidmann im not talking about drivers..
[12:46] <andreasw> hehe
[12:46] <sf_> i'm runing edgy can i get the new kde 3.5.6?
[12:46] <dwidmann> sounds like the nvidia drivers were mentioned, so I felt inclined to say something, or somethingl.
[12:47] <nuxil> heh ok..
[12:47] <dwidmann> Don't look at me, I haven't slept in 27 hours, and I don't plan to anytime soon.
[12:47] <johnn> sf_ yes http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[12:47] <sf_> dwidmann: lol ^_^
[12:47] <dwidmann> matt0507: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234007&highlight=libdvdcss2
[12:49] <matt0507> dwidmann: ty, i'll check it out :)
[12:49] <dwidmann> be warned, the upgrade path to kde-3.5.6 isn't exactly what I would call smooth.
[12:50] <andreasw> whats so wrong with 3.5.5 so everybody wants to upgrade to 3.5.6?
[12:51] <matt0507> i believe there are always bug fixes, security etc.. and stuff with new versions,
[12:52] <dwidmann> andreasw: kde3.5.6 = LOTS of bugfixes
[12:53] <andreasw> dwidmann: and new bugs ^^
[12:53] <sf_> andreasw: i just want the latest ..
[12:53] <andreasw> sf_: versionitis
[12:53] <dwidmann> andreasw: lets hope there aren't too many of those. Wishful thinking never hurt anybody (much)
[12:53] <andreasw> dwidmann: kubuntu has more bugs in kde as debian so I think it's not the fault of 3.5.5
[12:54] <andreasw> dwidmann: for example the annoying kwallet bug...
[12:54] <nuxil> YAY.. wget dosnt stop :) thanks johnn
[12:54] <sf_> andreasw: that bug is funny HEHE
[12:54] <sf_> andreasw: it makes me not switch of my pc
[12:54] <andreasw> hehe
[12:54] <weedar> Is there a program that will show which video and audio codec a video file uses?
[12:55] <dwidmann> weedar: file <filename>
[12:55] <weedar> excellent dwidmann, thanks =)
[12:56] <dwidmann> weedar: no problem
[12:56] <sf_> andreasw: anyways cya i need to restart to put a cdrom-rw to write egdy for my bro because when he installed windows it broke his kubuntu for like the 10th time
[12:57] <andreasw> sf_: cya
[12:57] <sf_> .... it always says can't acess tty and starts to run in some type of ramdisk
[01:02] <extern> how can I see my CPU usage?
[01:03] <toxidas> hi,
[01:03] <toxidas> i need some supprt
[01:04] <toxidas> i have edgyeft andi've upgrade to kde3.5.6
[01:05] <dwidmann> extern: kmenu->system->ksysguard
[01:05] <dwidmann> toxidas: yes?
[01:05] <toxidas> and i've messed up ith libfontconfig1
[01:05] <toxidas> and almost all my packages are brokn now
[01:06] <dwidmann> perhaps a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure libfontconfig1" is in order?
[01:06] <toxidas> running now 1 sec pls
[01:07] <toxidas> it runned and returne bac to console didn't say anything
[01:07] <toxidas> is it supposed to be ok now?
[01:07] <dwidmann> Hmm, see if everything is broken now?
[01:07] <toxidas> looking now...
[01:07] <dwidmann> That reconfigured the libfontconfig1 package ...
[01:08] <toxidas> synaptic says i have 150 broken packages
[01:08] <toxidas> :((
[01:08] <dwidmann> hmm, what would "sudo apt-get -f install" do?
[01:08] <toxidas> 1 sec..
[01:09] <toxidas> Unable to correct dependencies
[01:09] <toxidas> it says
[01:09] <dwidmann> does it say which ones?
[01:10] <dwidmann> also try to use "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", several times, over and over again until it decides it can't do anything more (more or less how I went about (most of) my upgrade, which didn't exactly go over too smooth.
[01:10] <toxidas> can i send you an output if i can how? there's so many
[01:10] <dwidmann> Sure
[01:10] <dwidmann> !paste
[01:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:10] <Jucato> !pastebin
[01:12] <toxidas> i'm getting the pastebin
[01:13] <toxidas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3183/plain/
[01:13] <toxidas> here's the output
[01:14] <dwidmann> hmm
[01:15] <toxidas> any chance to recover?
[01:15] <dwidmann> It says you have an old version of libfontconfig1
[01:15] <dwidmann> You need libfontconfig1 2.3+ from Edgy main.
[01:16] <toxidas> i've downloaded one but didn't install
[01:16] <KorN[CM] > are there any dmraid gurus out there??? I'm having LOADS of trouble with it ):
[01:16] <dwidmann> toxidas: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+package/libfontconfig1
[01:16] <zyth> omg I am dumb
[01:16] <dwidmann> KorN[CM] : I've fiddled with it before, what of it?
[01:17] <zyth> I spend an hour trying to figure out why nwn won't run
[01:17] <dwidmann> zyth, nice of you to be honest
[01:17] <KorN[CM] > dwidmann
[01:17] <zyth> and then I find out I applied the wrong patch
[01:17] <dwidmann> (just kidding)
[01:17] <zyth> I wanna go kick myself
[01:17] <KorN[CM] > it only shows up 1 device in /dev/mapper
[01:17] <KorN[CM] > not two
[01:17] <zyth> dwidmann: hehe, I feel that way right now
[01:17] <dwidmann> zyth: ouch
[01:18] <dwidmann> KorN[CM] : why would you expect there to be two: have you partitioned it yet?
[01:18] <toxidas> so i'll just dowoadand install the pkg ok?
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > and I get this error with fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > schilds@FS:/$ sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > Disk /dev/sdf doesn't contain a valid partition table
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > um because it's from a non-linux system (NTFS)
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > its got 600gb of data there
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > I cannot afford to lose
[01:18] <dwidmann> you need to be checking /dev/mapper/*** 's partition table KorN[CM]
[01:18] <KorN[CM] > k
[01:18] <SlimG> Why won't KTorrent show other seeders on the peer list while seeding a torrent?
[01:19] <zyth> hm
[01:19] <d0dge> SlimG: use azerus
[01:19] <d0dge> SlimG: Azureus*
[01:19] <zyth> anyone know why programs I install with wine in kubuntu end up in the lost+found folder in my K menu, whilst in ubuntu they'd end up in a Wine menu in my Gnome menu?
[01:20] <toxidas> and by the way is i ok if i clean aptcache afer download and install?
[01:20] <SlimG> d0dge: Azureus got the best features, but it lacks the simplicity, and it's also a bit heavy on the system
[01:21] <SlimG> but then again, I'm starting to get tired of KTorrent beeing so slow at adopting features
[01:22] <toxidas> great thaks dwidmann:)) it just solved the problem
[01:22] <Tessa> does someone know the channel name of the german kubuntuchannel?
[01:23] <johnn> SlimG: install webui for azureus and start it with --ui=console in a screen.. so you don't have to use the bloated swt gui stuff
[01:24] <SlimG> johnn: thanx!
[01:26] <warblade68> weeeeeeeeeee
[01:28] <distro-tester> morning
[01:28] <distro-tester> where can i donwload the stable version of kubuntu 6.10?
[01:29] <warblade68> its dapper
[01:29] <Jucato> Kubuntu 6.10 is stable. it's just not LTS
[01:29] <distro-tester> hey jucato hi
[01:29] <Jucato> hi
[01:29] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org will be the place to look for downloads
[01:29] <distro-tester> well for some reson i got the 32 bit but k3b won't burn it iso
[01:29] <distro-tester> got the alternate 32 cd iso from site
[01:30] <Jucato> did you check the md5sum?
[01:30] <distro-tester> it does it auto
[01:30] <distro-tester> btw not it the match
[01:30] <Jucato> yes, but did you check it against the md5sum from kubuntu.org
[01:30] <distro-tester> o no how i do that?
[01:30] <Jucato> !md5sum
[01:30] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[01:31] <distro-tester> i got a original city of kubuntu 32 6.10 got it whit the best linux zine here in italy but says instable is that ok jucato?
[01:31] <distro-tester> it's december january realise
[01:31] <distro-tester> wait i show u the zine maby will help
[01:31] <Jucato> distro-tester: it's ok. Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) was released October 2006
[01:33] <distro-tester> ok then im solved back to it i got fedora 6 32 but will not work on log in whit my nvidia 7900GS screen goes black
[01:33] <distro-tester> http://www.oltrelinux.com/ this is the zine if u want to see jucato
[01:34] <Jucato> um... ok....
[01:34] <dwidmann> toxidas: good to hear it
[01:34] <distro-tester> what does instable mean i mean what they mean whit that on the live cd?
[01:36] <Jucato> I don't know what "instable" means... or why they would put that on the Live CD... sorry, I only read English
[01:36] <distro-tester> im asking for any distro btw does it mean it's a no good version?
[01:36] <Jucato> it depends on the distro
[01:37] <ubuntu__> hallo
[01:37] <Jucato> Kubuntu doesn't have an unstable (instable?) release.
[01:37] <distro-tester> hi
[01:37] <kraut> moin
[01:37] <ubuntu__> ey
[01:37] <distro-tester> i don't know im asking u
[01:37] <blekos> is there a simple firewall than guarddog?
[01:37] <ubuntu__> kann mir einer mal qry helfen ?
[01:37] <distro-tester> but since the site has same december versions this will be fine i think u right
[01:38] <ubuntu__> der sich mit wine auskennt
[01:38] <Jucato> !de
[01:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:38] <distro-tester> im kubuntu 64 now jucato but they told me here yesterday night to go back 32 couse many programs like flash 9 don't support 64 and im to limitated like this
[01:38] <Jucato> distro-tester: yes, that's true, from what I know
[01:39] <dwidmann> blekos: guarddog is just a frontend to simplify configuring the linux firewall, iptables. there's another one that seems to be popular called firestarter, you can try it if you want.
[01:39] <distro-tester> sadely 64 bit still has hard times whit programs
[01:39] <flo> can ayone help me?if i have my webcam pluged in when i bootup tvtime wont see my tvcard anymore , how can i solve that?
[01:39] <dwidmann> distro-tester: they spread fud
[01:39] <distro-tester> firestarter is the best one use that
[01:39] <distro-tester> sorry im not english whas those fud mean?
[01:39] <distro-tester> what does *
[01:39] <Jucato> Fear Uncertainty and Doubt
[01:40] <blekos> i had tried it, think guarddog to be better
[01:40] <distro-tester> well we tryied to install flash 9 yesterday here and said dosen't support 64 bit
[01:40] <distro-tester> so seems true
[01:40] <dwidmann> Here, I'll hook you up with a little script of mine :)
[01:40] <blekos> just did want want to bother of configuring  http access, ft
[01:40] <dwidmann> http://www.xnowherex.net/simple64/
[01:40] <distro-tester> ok use what u think is best for u blekos
[01:40] <blekos> thnx
[01:40] <Jucato> distro-tester: it is Flash that doesn't support 64-bit, though, so it's not really Kubuntu's fault
[01:41] <Jucato> !flash64 | distro-tester
[01:41] <ubotu> distro-tester: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:41] <Jucato> dwidmann: although, w32codecs are another matter...
[01:41] <dwidmann> Jucato: indeed, at least wmv is permanently out of the way though
[01:41] <distro-tester> yes i know so the best is to got back to 32 as they said i won't loose much just 1% speed that's still supersonic fast vs xp
[01:42] <dwidmann> Hah, depends what you do.
[01:42] <dwidmann> I do a LOT of encoding ...
[01:42] <dwidmann> >20% increase in speed ...
[01:42] <distro-tester> surf download web and play america's army
[01:42] <blekos> i had ubuntu install and then i apt-installed kubuntu
[01:42] <distro-tester> that's whay i nead pc for now
[01:42] <blekos> is there any way to remove ubuntu [or should i say gnome]  comps
[01:42] <blekos> ?
[01:43] <distro-tester> maby who said i could use vic 20 was right for the nead of pc i have now
[01:43] <distro-tester> eheh
[01:43] <distro-tester> blekos guarddog will give u many port problems firestarter is the moast simple gui firewall ever and more secure i advise u it
[01:43] <distro-tester> it's n 1
[01:44] <distro-tester> and u can see what ever happens to your pc
[01:45] <distro-tester> we have the luck to have the best front end firewall on linux firestarter why look for strange unsecure solutions
[01:45] <blekos> i'll do show then thnx
[01:45] <distro-tester> !offtopic
[01:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:45] <distro-tester> welcome
[01:45] <dwidmann> distro-tester: I kind of like guarddog :\
[01:46] <blekos> i just thought tha guarddog is most "kde" oriented than "firestarter"
[01:46] <distro-tester> i know but for me firestater is the best till now
[01:46] <blekos> although both run smoothly :)
[01:46] <distro-tester> guardog is a good fw just has port problems
[01:46] <distro-tester> sometimes
[01:47] <dwidmann> distro-tester: Oh, and I hear nspluginwrapper has picked up support for konqueror now :D
[01:47] <distro-tester> btw firestarter is on the top charts for his security and simpleness to use
[01:47] <distro-tester> that's good so means we can use java and flash support there to?
[01:48] <dwidmann> distro-tester: well, it's still in beta, but that's the general idea, 32-bit plugins in a 64-bit browser.
[01:48] <dwidmann> I need to test this.
[01:48] <distro-tester> btw for now the best solution is to go back 32
[01:48] <distro-tester> u tell me to we don't loose much right?
[01:49] <distro-tester> im amd 3000
[01:49] <hnsn> hello friends!!!!
[01:49] <distro-tester> hi
[01:49] <hnsn> my first kubuntu installation!! =D=D=D
[01:49] <distro-tester> welcome
[01:49] <hnsn> tnx
[01:49] <hnsn> me like
[01:49] <distro-tester> did u dubble partion or just run linux now?
[01:50] <hnsn> i disconnected my xp harddrive ^^
[01:50] <distro-tester> u will have fun here im new to linux to
[01:50] <distro-tester> but just use it now no more xp
[01:50] <hnsn> hehe
[01:50] <dwidmann> distro-tester: depends what you're doing, for just browsing the internet, it doesn't really matter. If you need to do anything like encoding, rendering, etc, 64-bit linux can provide a 20-100% speed increase.
[01:51] <hnsn> i need some progs for school, and im a hardcore gamer .. sometimes ^^
[01:51] <distro-tester> i have VNC attacks ofthen seems like someone is trying to monitor my pc
[01:51] <blekos> firestarter is really simple, it has almost everything preconfigured
[01:51] <distro-tester> right
[01:51] <hnsn> whats firestarter?
[01:51] <hnsn> google here i come!
[01:51] <distro-tester> the best linux firewall for many
[01:51] <dwidmann> !firestarter
[01:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:51] <distro-tester> ok what help u nead hnsn?
[01:51] <blekos> the only thing is that i cannot add a policy, i tried to run as sudo su
[01:51] <blekos> but it want start
[01:51] <hnsn> i dont need any help atm =D
[01:52] <nagyv> is there a way to set up the kaffeine-mozilla plugin to NOT start kaffeine automatically if there is something to be played on the website, but give my just a button?
[01:52] <hnsn> or do i? =D
[01:52] <distro-tester> can u explain me what's encoding rendering dwid?
[01:52] <distro-tester> don't know if u do ask
[01:52] <distro-tester> btw u will nead to install firestarter and clamav anti rootkit to
[01:52] <distro-tester> did u update repository yet hnsn?
[01:52] <hnsn> im running a "full upgrade" troug adept manager
[01:52] <Skrot> distro-tester: encoding is when you compress movies (e.g encode a raw stream to xvid, x264, etc), rendering is when you render a 3D image for instance.
[01:53] <hnsn> i edited the reposiretes list a bit
[01:53] <hnsn> is that dangerous? =D
[01:53] <Skrot> distro-tester: So unless you work with movies or 3D modelling you're probably safe
[01:53] <distro-tester> o thanx well for now i use pc just to play surf download and chat
[01:53] <ForgeAus> full upgrade doesn't change edgy into feisty right?
[01:53] <distro-tester> so im fine
[01:53] <distro-tester> no
[01:53] <ForgeAus> you need to do a dist update and I don't think adept does that...
[01:53] <ForgeAus> does it?
[01:54] <distro-tester> feisty is not official out yet u nead to wait
[01:54] <hnsn> thinking of getting easy-ubuntu for mp3 support or something .. but first adept must be happy =D
[01:54] <ForgeAus> yes always good to make adept happy! lol
[01:54] <ForgeAus> KDE 3.5.6 seems nice but I don't sofar see any difference...
[01:54] <distro-tester> when u finished update hnsn update repository and install firestarter and anti rootkit whit adept
[01:54] <distro-tester> just write rootkit
[01:54] <Skrot> ForgeAus: It's mostly bugfixes
[01:55] <distro-tester> if u want u can install clamav antivirus if u will ever use it
[01:55] <hnsn> do i need firestarter and anti rootkit?
[01:55] <distro-tester> yes
[01:55] <hnsn> ok
[01:55] <hnsn> =D
[01:56] <distro-tester> to configure firestarter is very easy so u will not find problems whit it
[01:56] <distro-tester> i seen latest kde is out do i nead to install it or comes whit kubuntu?
[01:57] <Skrot> you need to install it
[01:57] <Skrot> packages at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[01:57] <distro-tester> ok how do i do that skrot?
[01:57] <Skrot> Read the URL :)
[01:57] <distro-tester> thanx ill put it if it's stable otherwise i can wait
[01:58] <distro-tester> ok brb everyone must downgrade from 64 to 32 eheh
[01:59] <dwidmann> skrot, distro-tester is probably talking about kde-3.5.6
[01:59] <Skrot> eww, wrong URL
[02:00] <distro-tester> btw is it stable for us to put last version 4 of kde dwid?
[02:00] <Skrot> distro-tester: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php thats the one
[02:00] <Skrot> no, distro-tester
[02:00] <Skrot> 4 is unstable and unusable :)
[02:00] <distro-tester> ok so better wait
[02:00] <distro-tester> for the 3 they told me we all ready run it on kubuntu 6.10
[02:00] <Skrot> I just pasted the wrong URL earlier. Sorry :)
[02:00] <distro-tester> that 's fine so i check out both
[02:01] <dwidmann> "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main"
[02:01] <distro-tester> but skrot we don't nead to upgrade nothing i think couse under 4 6.10 runs latest kde
[02:01] <dwidmann> distro-tester, no, edgy uses kde-3.5.5
[02:01] <Skrot> You don't need to upgrade. I think edgy has 3.5.5
[02:01] <Skrot> But if you want 3.5.6 you need to upgrade to it :)
[02:02] <distro-tester> o i certarnly do
[02:02] <distro-tester> ok 1 i go 32 bit then hope u can help me do this
[02:02] <distro-tester> i nead to install flash 9 when im back and java and this kde 3.5.6
[02:02] <distro-tester> will it be hard?
[02:02] <dwidmann> No.
[02:03] <Skrot> flash9 and kde 3.5.6 is easy. Java depends on which version
[02:03] <blekos> could u tell me where is the manager for login sceen [need to change theme, cause the one i have crashes]
[02:03] <distro-tester> well u tell the best version for us of java?
[02:03] <Skrot> If you want java 5 its easy, if you want java 6 its a tad harder but still no real problem
[02:03] <distro-tester> ok we will start from the basics then
[02:03] <distro-tester> thanx
[02:03] <Skrot> java 6 seems faster than java 5 to me
[02:03] <dwidmann> not really all that hard ... chmod +x file.bin, ./file.bin, mv newfolder /usr/lib/jvm
[02:04] <Skrot> or I could just put my .deb on web =)
[02:04] <dwidmann> skrot: it's actually much faster, according to some benchmarks that have been done anyway
[02:04] <distro-tester> system configuration blekos
[02:04] <distro-tester> on k menu
[02:04] <distro-tester> there u can change what u like as root
[02:04] <Skrot> Thats what I though. Problem is I've just tried with Eclipse, and I've also upgraded Eclipse since I tried with 5.0, so I wasn't sure where to speedup was
[02:05] <Skrot> But eclipse starts much faster now
[02:05] <distro-tester> what's eclipse for?
[02:05] <Skrot> It's a Java IDE for programming Java :)
[02:07] <dwidmann> skrot: I hear azureus works significantly better with java6 though, jdong had a thread on UF about it
[02:07] <distro-tester> ill join ubuntu classroom when lessons start soon for now ill just do basics like flash java and last kde i nead otherwise i mess up then when im better i can do else
[02:08] <distro-tester> the best for begginers once they installed what they nead is to leave for a while everything as they where on xp
[02:08] <Skrot> dwidmann: I've tried Azureus as well, but I plain don't like it that much. Ill stick to KTorrent :)
[02:08] <foxbunny> hi
[02:08] <dwidmann> Skrot: My internet connection is allergic to torrents, so I don't care either way
[02:08] <Skrot> hehe
[02:08] <distro-tester> ktorrent is the best has all in 1 torrents search and very fast to
[02:09] <foxbunny> why doesn't KDE Wallet remember my Kmail's passwords?
[02:09] <distro-tester> what u find in kde and kubuntu is n1 stuff u don't nead to look for elese 99% so don't worry people
[02:09] <distro-tester> be happy whit what u got and learn to use it
[02:09] <distro-tester> else*
[02:10] <dwidmann> foxbunny: did you tell it to?
[02:11] <foxbunny> yes... every time I eneter the password and click 'remember' KDE Wallet comes up and asks for the master password...
[02:11] <distro-tester> heeh i have so much fun to chat here im taking time to reinstall 32 bit version
[02:11] <foxbunny> it seems Kmail changes the session number every time I access mail servers, so Kwallet gets confused...
[02:12] <distro-tester> is there a way for firestarter not to ask u password every log in?
[02:12] <foxbunny> and thinks it's a different app every time
[02:12] <foxbunny> or maybe not... :(
[02:12] <foxbunny> distro-tester: log in as root? :D
[02:12] <distro-tester> yes
[02:12] <distro-tester> is that normal?
[02:13] <foxbunny> distro-tester: no
[02:13] <distro-tester> i mean everytime i log in i must put the root password very strange
[02:13] <distro-tester> btw i got same pass on log in as root i must change them
[02:13] <foxbunny> distro-tester: what I meant is, logging in as root is not normal... very hazardous... that's why firestarter asks you for special permission tu run as root while you are logged in as a regular user
[02:14] <foxbunny> s/tu/to/
[02:14] <distro-tester> ok to run firestarter it askes me the same pass i put on log in
[02:14] <distro-tester> but my root one is the same
[02:14] <distro-tester> i can say this as im going 32 bit so will change everything now
[02:14] <foxbunny> Yes, the same passwd is used for root access
[02:15] <distro-tester> so why does firestarter ask me root pass to run on log in?
[02:15] <foxbunny> but root *access* and root *account* are two different thing
[02:15] <foxbunny> you give firestarter temporary access as root
[02:15] <foxbunny> same with sudo command
[02:15] <foxbunny> you don't actually become root
[02:16] <distro-tester> i just set it to load at boot up
[02:16] <foxbunny> you just issue commands as if you were root
[02:16] <distro-tester> im lost here
[02:16] <foxbunny> it needs root privileges to manage your firewall
[02:17] <foxbunny> because user accounts have limited access to the system
[02:17] <distro-tester> ok when u long in u get the screenshots that askes u the password to run firestarter?
[02:17] <distro-tester> as mine is set to run as pc loads
[02:17] <foxbunny> yes
[02:18] <foxbunny> you supply your user's password
[02:18] <distro-tester> this is what im trying to understad if there is a way to just run it xp way whit out pass?
[02:18] <foxbunny> that's only on *Ubuntu
[02:18] <foxbunny> you *don't* want it to run the XP way... :D
[02:18] <foxbunny> trust me
[02:18] <distro-tester> so on kde everytime i must do this boring thing to write pass in it or won't run?
[02:19] <foxbunny> XP makes the system too exposed, that's why linux uses root access
[02:19] <heinkel_111> if i want to build a custom konqueror version, will i have to build the entire kdebase?
[02:19] <foxbunny> to prevent access to parts you have no business tinkering with
[02:19] <spawn57> macs are the same heh
[02:19] <distro-tester> ok so even if this option can seem more boring gives me much more security right?
[02:19] <foxbunny> distro-tester: have you considered leaving your system up all the time?
[02:20] <distro-tester> no way hehe
[02:20] <foxbunny> okay
[02:20] <distro-tester> i don't nead that
[02:20] <foxbunny> I have it up 24/7
[02:20] <foxbunny> so I don't have to type the pass every time
[02:20] <spawn57> foxbunny: try out linspire then, it designed to suit your needs better
[02:20] <distro-tester> btw what im asking u if this boring option of pass keeps the pc more secure then windows firewalls that just run at start up no password?
[02:21] <foxbunny> spawn57: oh? why?
[02:21] <distro-tester> u read what i asked u fox?
[02:21] <distro-tester> id just like a yes or no
[02:21] <blekos> any ideas why i keep getting cannot open theme file just before the login screen?
[02:22] <dwidmann> distro-tester ... think of it this way, in windows you're always running as root (by default)
[02:22] <spawn57> it runs as root last i read, and they probably took that into account when designed it.  it should be fairly safe even though they run as root
[02:22] <foxbunny> distro-tester: yes and yes
[02:22] <distro-tester> o thanx
[02:22] <distro-tester> that is what i wanted to be sure of and your right dwid
[02:22] <foxbunny> spawn57: well, I don't really want it to run as root, but distro-tester might want that...
[02:23] <spawn57> lol oki
[02:23] <distro-tester> blekos as soon as some one will be able to solve u they will don't worry
[02:23] <distro-tester> no i don't other wise i would of used linspire
[02:23] <distro-tester> ill live whit the boring pass that meas more secure do
[02:23] <foxbunny> distro-tester: right on
[02:23] <blekos> brb
[02:24] <distro-tester> linspire is the best $ distro but problem it's all ways in su
[02:24] <foxbunny> distro-tester: yeah, and it's a $ distro
[02:24] <foxbunny> :D
[02:24] <spawn57> there's freespire
[02:24] <distro-tester> so u risk a bit less of xp as sytem is very strong and debian based
[02:24] <dwidmann> distro-tester: basically, running as root is no more secure than windows. Only, there are less exploits.
[02:24] <distro-tester> btw they are terrible on security once i had a rootkit and they removed it for me haah free
[02:25] <foxbunny> dwidmann: but that's because it's linux.... :D
[02:25] <distro-tester> their browser can see everything they trying to do to the os
[02:26] <distro-tester> that's one of the power points of linspire plus it's firewall but give many port problems
[02:26] <foxbunny> distro-tester: what? the OS actually reports to the HQ?
[02:26] <distro-tester> at least to me im nat
[02:26] <distro-tester> uyes
[02:26] <distro-tester> they made it 99% bomb prove that os fox
[02:27] <foxbunny> distro-tester: ah, that makes me feel so secure, lol. :) now I don't have to worry about bombs :D
[02:27] <distro-tester> like thir browser monitors pc and os reports to linspire servers
[02:27] <distro-tester> hhe u might pass to linspire then
[02:27] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I already did pass on linspire
[02:27] <fbc> Help I cant proceed my upgrade from dapper to edgy apt-get -f install has unmet dependencies due to another packackes blocking see my paste bin please for detail http://pastebin.ca/330987
[02:27] <distro-tester> so why u using kubuntu now?
[02:28] <distro-tester> u like it more?
[02:28] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I have different reason... I'm in DTP business, and I needed a distro with up2date packages
[02:28] <foxbunny> but now I'm having second thoughts...
[02:28] <distro-tester> i see dtp is?
[02:28] <foxbunny> repos aren't quite up2date
[02:28] <dwidmann> fbc, the best way I can think of for doing it is to apt-get install <list every single package it lists here>
[02:28] <dwidmann> brute force is lovely.
[02:28] <foxbunny> DTP = Desk top publishing
[02:28] <chuen> Can I ask a question about PATH and CHMOD (I have RTFM)?
[02:28] <distro-tester> well linspire is the best if u want a click and run distro
[02:28] <hnsn> hello! does this guide exist for us: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy ?
[02:29] <hnsn> (for kubuntu)
[02:29] <fbc> oki dwidmann ill try
[02:29] <hnsn> or can i translate on the go?
[02:29] <distro-tester> xandros is quite good to but hard to find stuff installed in it if u don't use their servers
[02:29] <foxbunny> distro-tester: so far, the best I've tried is Arch with its huge repo and Arch Build System
[02:29] <distro-tester> what does it have cool?
[02:30] <distro-tester> for me the best free distro is ubuntu family btw and 2 fedora if u $ linspire and xandros depends what u look for
[02:30] <foxbunny> distro-tester: ABS is a source based package manager
[02:30] <distro-tester> they told me arch is not easy
[02:30] <foxbunny> distro-tester: so if you want something new, you just fetch a PKGBUILD file, change the version number and it compiles the package for you
[02:30] <foxbunny> distro-tester: sure it needs some experience... it's installer is text-based and...
[02:31] <fbc> I cant get past this error http://pastebin.ca/330987
[02:31] <fbc> ups
[02:31] <distro-tester> well here u are on debian that has the biggest repository pack ever impossible u can't find what u like
[02:31] <foxbunny> distro-tester: instead of giving you check boxes, it gives you the config files to edit
[02:31] <distro-tester> and best comunity ever
[02:31] <fbc> I cant get past this error trying to overwrite `/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU', which is also in package language-pack-en-base
[02:31] <foxbunny> distro-tester: Debian, yes... but Ubuntu has no testing branch
[02:31] <distro-tester> arch is for power users and i don't really like it im a socialist and non distro has the humanity for others and socialist spirit like ubuntu
[02:32] <spawn57> foxbunny: unbuntu doesn't really need one with it's 6 month release cycle
[02:32] <dwidmann> I'm endlessly torn between debian and kubuntu :\
[02:32] <distro-tester> im happy here
[02:32] <foxbunny> for example, ghostscript is 8.50, but I need 8.54
[02:32] <foxbunny> there are many more
[02:32] <spawn57> dwidmann: same, kubuntu for desktop, unbuntu for servers =D
[02:32] <foxbunny> DTP is fairly new on Linux and you need to have absolutely the freshest packages
[02:33] <foxbunny> dwidmann: Kubuntu, then?
[02:33] <foxbunny> :D
[02:33] <distro-tester> as i said fox depends what u looking for if u want a easy to use distro and the best comunity go ubuntu if u want easy to use xp distro go linspire xandros
[02:33] <distro-tester> but rember linux is socialism they are far from it
[02:33] <distro-tester> for me linux is politics to change the world so first of all i look the people who make it
[02:33] <foxbunny> distro-tester: after 2 years in Linux, I can hardly imagine working with an OS that looks anything like XP :)
[02:33] <dwidmann> foxbunny, some odd twist of the two .... text install + <insert a thousand or so packages, not including some of the "important" kubuntu stuff here>
[02:33] <foxbunny> that's the reason I passed on PCLinuxOS
[02:33] <distro-tester> if they suck  even if their distro is the best or cool ill never use it
[02:34] <distro-tester> linspire is the more xp u can find
[02:34] <distro-tester> but why u want to emulate xp fox?
[02:35] <foxbunny> distro-tester: what gave you that idea? I *don't* want anything that remotely resembles XP. :D
[02:35] <distro-tester> i mean there are so many simple distros now $ or free u don't nead to make em look like xp to be cool xp is even ugly heeh
[02:35] <blekos> ok guys, it seems i have messed up my system a bit trying ro remove ubuntu...
[02:36] <distro-tester> well u saying u passed to pcoslinux and looking for xp emulation distros
[02:36] <dwidmann> blekos: ubuntu - ubuntu = 0?
[02:36] <foxbunny> pass on = skipped
[02:36] <blekos> is there any way of reinstalling kubuntu [short of repair?]  without loosing my current settings?
[02:36] <distro-tester> blekos what's your problem explain me what u trying to do if i can help
[02:36] <dwidmann> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:36] <blekos> well, most appropriate gnome things
[02:36] <blekos> is seems like i lost the synaptic manager
[02:37] <distro-tester> u could just install kubuntu and so u remove ubuntu
[02:37] <distro-tester> how is pcoslinux is it free?
[02:37] <foxbunny> hey, is it just me, or security.ubuntu.com is slow today?
[02:37] <blekos> and my start menu is bit messed up as well, moreover, the fonts have returned to be very tiny [maybe some default theme was removed or smg]
[02:37] <foxbunny> distro-tester: it's free in both senses
[02:37] <foxbunny> distro-tester: no $
[02:37] <osh_> distro-tester: Think so. It's sort of a free Mandriva I think.
[02:37] <distro-tester> and what does it have cool vs us?
[02:38] <foxbunny> distro-tester: vs "us" it has up2date packages, GUI config tools for almost anything... that is if you consider them cool :D
[02:38] <distro-tester> btw i don't see any of this distros cool or not have socialist spirit and ubuntu side they are more or individual or $ so don't enjoy using them their comunity suck to
[02:39] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I didn't like it because it's too GUI
[02:39] <blekos> can i do smg eg sudo-apt get install kubuntu?
[02:39] <distro-tester> i love gui
[02:39] <osh_> foxbunny: gui-config tools are way cool imho. something that is sorely lacking in kubuntu.
[02:39] <distro-tester> im a kde and gui fan
[02:39] <foxbunny> distro-tester: then PCLOS is for you
[02:39] <foxbunny> osh_: you try PCLOS then. :) You'll love it
[02:39] <distro-tester> hehe im happy here but i can test it for fun as u see my nick
[02:39] <dwidmann> blekos, it would be kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <foxbunny> osh_: I'm happier with CLI distros.... even Kubuntu is too GUI for me... :)
[02:40] <distro-tester> i don't think ill move from ubuntu i spended months looking for the distro for me trying suse mandrivia fedora linspire xandros
[02:40] <dwidmann> foxbunny, but kubuntu is esentially debian ... so, the way is there if you want to.
[02:40] <osh_> foxbunny: will do. I'm a bit scared that it's a small and obscure os though. I like distros that are big enough to keep up a momentum.
[02:40] <dwidmann> Otherwise I never would have stuck with kubuntu ...
[02:40] <Archngel> hi everyone
[02:40] <foxbunny> dwidmann: I know, that's why I'm using it. :)
[02:40] <dwidmann> hi Archngel
[02:40] <distro-tester> yes no one has what debian has in repository packs over 20.000 programs u can get lost in them
[02:41] <distro-tester> it can pull u down this world and much more if u use it correct
[02:41] <foxbunny> distro-tester: Gentoo has lots, and so does Arch Linux. :)
[02:41] <distro-tester> but they are hard as hello
[02:41] <distro-tester> hell*
[02:41] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I think Mandriva has an underadvertized huge repos, too
[02:41] <osh_> foxbunny: I've done my share of cli-tooling. Now I'm focused on getting things done. CLIs are great for some things, not so much for others. Good if you do it often, bad if you don't.
[02:41] <distro-tester> hehe give them to begginers and see what happens expecialy gentoo
[02:42] <Archngel> I have a problem with 3d acceleration in Kubuntu edgy,, with an ATI X1600pro 512,, cant get it to work even after trying many wiki, or forum explanations,, must do something wrong,, can anyone help me on that
[02:42] <foxbunny> osh_: absolutely... but Arch is my champion ballancing the CLI and efficient. :)
[02:42] <trac^> Hello. I am having trouble with my wlan-card losing connection all the time. Could someone plz help me?
[02:42] <distro-tester> mandrivia is very limitated if u don't crack it plus im against $ distros linux is free open source and socialism i just like linspire couse they good guys
[02:42] <blekos> i get the following message
[02:42] <blekos> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:42] <blekos> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:42] <blekos> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:42] <blekos> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:43] <distro-tester> well use what' best for u bunny but rember socialism is the way
[02:43] <foxbunny> osh_: BTW, PLCOS is now testing, so you'll probably have a prob or two... release should be soon
[02:43] <distro-tester> are u male or female bunny?
[02:43] <trac^> Hello. I am having trouble with my wlan-card losing connection all the time. Could someone plz help me?
[02:43] <distro-tester> blekos i thin u nead a reinstall u messed up adept like me 1 times
[02:43] <distro-tester> just backup next time everthing
[02:44] <foxbunny> distro-tester: every Linux community is socialist (if I got you right). there are very little anti-socialist communities out there.
[02:44] <foxbunny> distro-tester: male
[02:44] <distro-tester> u can use keep to do that is backups for u blekos u find it on k menu
[02:44] <blekos> can i reinstall online?
[02:44] <distro-tester> why u don't like the cd?
[02:45] <JohnFlux> blekos: did you run apt-get update    first?
[02:45] <blekos> nop
[02:45] <JohnFlux> blekos: well, do that
[02:45] <distro-tester> fox no one is as ubuntu and i find them more individualist then socialist and $ distros are nothing just money makers
[02:45] <JohnFlux> blekos: sudo apt-get update
[02:45] <blekos> i did but no luck
[02:46] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: hmm
[02:46] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: actually it's more dictorship
[02:46] <distro-tester> for example fedora looks much a reppublican comunity pro usa and bush full of ex usa army soldiers another reason i did not install it
[02:46] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: usually a strong leader at the top
[02:46] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: who makes the decisions
[02:46] <foxbunny> distro-tester: that's just a prejudice... I tnink *Ubuntu community is great, too, but others are great as well.
[02:46] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: e.g. Linus Trovalds at the top
[02:46] <foxbunny> JohnFlux: I don't know what you are referring to...
[02:46] <distro-tester> im speaking for me fox of course
[02:46] <distro-tester> my expirience whit em
[02:47] <distro-tester> blekos if u got the kubuntu cd 6.10 just text install it's very easy and remove else
[02:47] <JohnFlux> foxbunny:  <foxbunny> distro-tester: every Linux community is socialist (if I got you right). there are very little anti-socialist communities out there.
[02:47] <distro-tester> of dubble partion u will be fine if u can't partion ask for help
[02:47] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: replying to that
[02:47] <heinkel_111> anyone know how to remove a source package using apt?
[02:48] <foxbunny> JohnFlux: foxbunny: actually it's more dictorship >> what's *it*?
[02:48] <JohnFlux> heinkel_111: you don't
[02:48] <JohnFlux> heinkel_111: just delete it
[02:48] <foxbunny> JohnFlux: Ubuntu or others?
[02:48] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: oh
[02:48] <distro-tester> btw as i say one should use what's best for him even if for the comunity comes first
[02:48] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: I was thinking on the programming side
[02:48] <foxbunny> distro-tester: of course
[02:48] <JohnFlux> foxbunny: to develop ubuntu or any linux project
[02:48] <distro-tester> u can run a ferrari but if who made it sucks u who drive it suck to
[02:49] <foxbunny> JohnFlux: yes, I understand
[02:49] <heinkel_111> JohnFlux: oh, it is that easy...
[02:49] <grazie> I lost sound on a update. Anyone got some suggestions for isolating the problem?
[02:49] <JohnFlux> heinkel_111: yep :-)
[02:49] <heinkel_111> won't there be an entry in the apt database without corresponding files then?
[02:49] <distro-tester> btw i hope u find what u looking for fox as debian has so much stuff i think it's imppossible u wont
[02:50] <foxbunny> JohnFlux: IMHO, the less the top interferes in community affairs the better... but most of them don't anyway
[02:50] <distro-tester> btw what u nead ahah it's  ages we chatting and still diden't understand what u looking for?
[02:50] <foxbunny> distro-tester: don't worry, I did a fair share of testing with various distros... just that some are between releases... and the slow Internet connection... :D
[02:51] <foxbunny> distro-tester: yes, perhaps you may help me out...
[02:51] <distro-tester> give and eye on fedora 7 to btw if u can stand their comunity
[02:51] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I'm looking for a distro that has a fast updating repo. :)
[02:51] <distro-tester> ill try im a new user but let's see
[02:51] <foxbunny> distro-tester: my main tools are Inkscape, Scribus and GIMP
[02:51] <distro-tester> well ubuntu has a very fast one what's your problem whit adept ?
[02:52] <distro-tester> ok let me see
[02:52] <matt0507> im having trouble with Kaffeine, it plays like first 1 minute of the movie/track then stopping claiming no disc/not readable and prodced this error: Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD.)
[02:52] <dwidmann> foxbunny, probably can't beat gentoo or arch for fast updating.
[02:52] <distro-tester> u can ask here to #ubuntu
[02:52] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I did a "by package version" search on Distrowatch and so far only Mandriva cooker, PCLOS, and Arch have the latest...
[02:52] <distro-tester> did u try adept backdoors?
[02:52] <foxbunny> dwidmann: I know.... rolling release rocks in that department
[02:53] <distro-tester> u can find new stuff there to
[02:53] <foxbunny> distro-tester: you mean back*ports*?
[02:53] <distro-tester> yes
[02:53] <distro-tester> sorry to much xp eheh
[02:53] <foxbunny> lemme check
[02:53] <heinkel_111> rolling release is not always the most stable thou
[02:53] <distro-tester> u must update repository btw to get full power of debian did u do that enable universe multireverse?=
[02:53] <dwidmann> last I checked, debian called theres "a rolling release system"
[02:53] <foxbunny> heinkel_111: I have good experience with it on Arch... it has a testing branch and if you avoid it, it's rock solid
[02:54] <dwidmann> maybe somebody is confusing terms?
[02:54] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I have those
[02:54] <distro-tester> ok
[02:54] <distro-tester> check backports now
[02:54] <distro-tester> debian updates fast btw so what u can't find u will soon
[02:54] <foxbunny> dwidmann: basically, Arch has no version... it's all one continuous update from install
[02:55] <foxbunny> distro-tester: can't do that right now... I'm dl'ing fglrx driver
[02:55] <foxbunny> lemme cat the sources.list
[02:55] <dwidmann> foxbunny, with snapshots inbetween so people can actually get it, I presume?
[02:55] <distro-tester> btw arch and gentoo are good distros but they not for begginers
[02:55] <foxbunny> dwidmann: precisely
[02:55] <distro-tester> ill check out pcoslinux to btw
[02:56] <distro-tester> dwi can we install yum to manage install rpm paks here?
[02:56] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I have backports
[02:56] <distro-tester> ok make sure they enabled
[02:56] <dwidmann> foxbunny, I've been meaning to try arch, maybe even gentoo ... I'm avoiding gentoo because I don't want to let my computer sit and compile for days. It has more useful things to do.
[02:56] <distro-tester> gentoo is crazy eheh
[02:56] <distro-tester> for real geeks
[02:57] <dwidmann> distro-tester, maybe if you install rpm and yum. You can try it ... doesn't sound like a grand idea though.
[02:57] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:57] <foxbunny> dwidmann: I just tried Gentoo two days ago... it compiled on for two days, and X never saw the light... :(
[02:57] <distro-tester> well important i don't crash the system
[02:57] <distro-tester> fox trow gentoo out the windows
[02:58] <foxbunny> dwidmann: but it's amazing how you can tweak it for every bit of performance your hadrware can offer
[02:58] <fairman> Hi, could somebody advice me, how to add mod_rewrite to apache2?
[02:58] <distro-tester> at this point better arch
[02:58] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I've used Arch for like 6 months and I'm confortable with it
[02:58] <distro-tester> fox u can make a test for best distro for u on linux desktop .com if i rember well
[02:59] <dwidmann> foxbunny, not much point. My processor can still give a Core 2 a pretty good run for its money, depending on the application :)
[02:59] <foxbunny> distro-tester: the community helped me with some packages that were missing and I was able to submit 2 packages to the repos
[02:59] <distro-tester> btw don't worry debian will soon have what u looking for updated be sure of that
[02:59] <foxbunny> distro-tester: in return, I managed their wiki for a while
[02:59] <dwidmann> I have a link to that test distro-tester
[02:59] <distro-tester> for me came out the best distros where ubuntu or that orrible mandrivia
[02:59] <foxbunny> distro-tester: but there's one thing.... no distro is perfect. :)
[03:00] <dwidmann> distro-tester: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php
[03:00] <distro-tester> $$$
[03:00] <distro-tester> of course
[03:00] <dwidmann> mandriva isn't so bad really, I used it for a good three months way back when, then again, it was called mandrake back then.
[03:00] <distro-tester> well many say ubuntu isen't the best distro just has the best comunity  i don't agree do
[03:01] <distro-tester> i know well they went whit that lysome thing now
[03:01] <dwidmann> It had some really nice admin tools, for those glued to the gui
[03:01] <crazy_bus> I know openoffice.org takes awile to start so I enabled quickstarter in the memory option of the program.  I am wondering how this works and if I have it checked will it take up memory?
[03:01] <foxbunny> dwidmann: oh, yeah, the 0.8 voodoo release of Arch is due very soon... the beta seems to have some troubles atm, so you may give it a go but only after release... :)
[03:01] <distro-tester> if u don't crak mandrivia u very limitated whit it btw
[03:01] <dwidmann> foxbunny: thanks, I think I will
[03:01] <distro-tester> and why $ for a distro when linux is born free and open source
[03:01] <distro-tester> make that test fox im sure will help u
[03:01] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I'm not that patient. :)
[03:02] <distro-tester> linux desktop .com
[03:02] <dwidmann> distro-tester: you can download it for free, just it's missing some of the things that they include in their paid releases.
[03:02] <distro-tester> takes 1 min to test
[03:02] <distro-tester> i know i come from mandrivia suse fedora linspire xandros
[03:02] <distro-tester> eheh know all the stuff
[03:03] <dwidmann> I didn't like SuSE.  I dumped it come upgrade time though.
[03:03] <distro-tester> i think fedora 7 will be for u fox
[03:04] <foxbunny> distro-tester: yeah, I was thinking fedora too, but 6 CDs? what does it come with? a 747?
[03:04] <distro-tester> mandrake was very good once it just sucks now
[03:04] <ulisse> ciao
[03:04] <distro-tester> ciao
[03:04] <ulisse> chisa darmi una mano
[03:04] <distro-tester> parli inglese?
[03:04] <distro-tester> io vieni in pvt
[03:04] <ulisse> no
[03:04] <distro-tester> u can have dvd to of fedora 6 fox
[03:04] <distro-tester> and has all in it
[03:04] <foxbunny> distro-tester: as I said before, I don't like GUI distros too much... never know what's going on under the hood...
[03:05] <distro-tester> ulisse vieni in pvt
[03:05] <foxbunny> distro-tester: plus if you don't use the GUI, it just takes up space
[03:05] <foxbunny> on you HDD
[03:05] <distro-tester> o vai su !it
[03:05] <distro-tester> iit
[03:05] <distro-tester> what's the italian chanel for kubuntu again?
[03:05] <distro-tester> !it
[03:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:05] <distro-tester> there
[03:05] <Ash-Fox> Can someone help me figure out what todo with this hardware issue? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2070713
[03:06] <distro-tester> btw where u from fox ?
[03:06] <foxbunny> argh... Kubuntu can't copy my data DVD?!
[03:06] <foxbunny> what gives?!
[03:06] <foxbunny> distro-tester: I'm from Serbia
[03:06] <distro-tester> rome italy 28 m here
[03:06] <dwidmann> US here
[03:06] <foxbunny> 33 second lag on IRC?! you must be kidding me...
[03:06] <distro-tester> nice what part of usa u from?
[03:06] <foxbunny> g2g
[03:06] <dwidmann> foxbunny: it should be able to
[03:06] <foxbunny> cya
[03:07] <distro-tester> ulisse capito vai' li'
[03:07] <dwidmann> later foxbunny
[03:07] <distro-tester> see u later
[03:07] <distro-tester> i like usa uk comunity for linux and freenode that's why i come here
[03:07] <distro-tester> dwid
[03:07] <chuen> Hi. Should permission for th sbin directory be 755 ?
[03:08] <distro-tester> what part of usa u from dwid?
[03:09] <Archngel> well either I missed an answer somewhere or noone replied,, im posting different result on past.ubuntu that may help you look into my proble,  thx in advance http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3190/
[03:09] <distro-tester> as soon as they can solve u they will don't worry
[03:10] <distro-tester> what u nead btw arch in a new user but if i can help ?
[03:10] <ulisse> chi italiano
[03:10] <distro-tester> !it
[03:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:10] <distro-tester> leggi ulisse
[03:11] <distro-tester> wb dwid
[03:11] <dwidmann> distro-tester: virginia
[03:11] <distro-tester> that's nice u play Banjo?
[03:11] <chuen> Anyone?
[03:11] <dwidmann> Nope
[03:11] <dwidmann> funny
[03:11] <Archngel> distro-tester,  are you talking to me,, im not very use to chat and im affraid that I can miss answer if I dont reconize my nick,,is Arch for me?
[03:12] <distro-tester> yes to u
[03:12] <distro-tester> what u nead?
[03:12] <distro-tester> im a redneck hillybilly to dwid
[03:12] <distro-tester> so we share same views
[03:12] <Archngel> oupelay,, sorry,, taught it was something else,,
[03:12] <distro-tester> if u one
[03:13] <dwidmann> hahaha, distro-tester, I moved here from Pennsylvania, significantly further north :P
[03:13] <distro-tester> ok what 's the problem arch if i can't u will soon find who can solve u
[03:13] <Archngel>  I have problem with 3d with ATI X1600Pro 512,in kubuntu,, wont work
[03:13] <chuen> Anyone help pls?
[03:13] <distro-tester> ok i got different card but soon u will find help
[03:13] <Archngel> thx
[03:14] <distro-tester> o one of my best friend is from there dwid that's the land of jeowa whitness
[03:14] <dwidmann> chuen: with?
[03:14] <distro-tester> really hate them eheh
[03:14] <Archngel> already try many wiki on ati 3d,, and been to forums,, without succes,,
[03:14] <dwidmann> !ati
[03:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:14] <chuen> dwidmann: Can you tell me the correct permissions for the sbin dir.?
[03:15] <dwidmann> distro-tester: that and the menonites too, and amish if you go to the eastern half
[03:15] <dwidmann> chuen: yes
[03:15] <Archngel> ubotu: been there done that got wierd message about monitor 0:0 and rendering :no
[03:15] <chuen> dwidmann: I had to copy a file to it so chnaged permissions to do so. Chnaged it bacjk to 755 but have Permisson Denied.
[03:15] <Archngel> see my post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3190/
[03:15] <distro-tester> i want to learn to play 6 cord Banjo it's cool im much on blugrass and country souther rock what music u like ?
[03:16] <distro-tester> we can go offtopic chan if it gets to far from chan topic btw
[03:16] <dwidmann> chuen: should be root:root 755
[03:16] <dwidmann> distro-tester: metal :)
[03:16] <Archngel> ubotu,  its about the 10th time I try to reconfigure,, with fglrx , ATI, and other
[03:16] <chuen> dwidmann: Sorry, don't understand (Newb)
[03:17] <distro-tester> o me to rock n' roll to
[03:17] <dwidmann> chuen: should be owned by root, group root, permissions set to 755. If it's saying you don't have permission you need to use !sudo
[03:18] <dwidmann> distro-tester: Yeah, I like that too. So long as it isn't rap, I generally don't mind it. Can't stand that stuff.
[03:19] <chuen> Normally, I can access it using gui, but now I can't access via command line even. Whay is the syntax pls?
[03:19] <chuen> dwidmann: Normally, I can access it using gui, but now I can't access via command line even. Whay is the syntax pls?
[03:20] <dwidmann> chuen:
[03:20] <distro-tester> ok dwidmann here is 3 pm ill install 32 bit and then im back till what time u here so we install flash and java later and this latest kde?
[03:20] <dwidmann> sudo chown -R root:root /usr/sbin
[03:20] <dwidmann> sudo chmod 755 -R /usr/sbin
[03:21] <dwidmann> distro-tester: I'll probably be here for a long while. Even though I've already been up for the better part of 29 hours, with a small nap somewhere in there
[03:22] <distro-tester> ok if u tired rest bro brb ill make this downgrade ahah
[03:22] <chuen> dwidmann: Both thode commands were accepted but when I try to access dir via GUI I still get access denied.
[03:22] <chuen> dwidmann: and via command line.
[03:23] <dwidmann> chuen: so, if you were to say, "ls /usr/sbin", you would get permission denied?
[03:23] <chuen> dwidmann: No, that works fine.
[03:24] <dwidmann> chuen: hmm, then what's going wrong?
[03:24] <chuen> dwidmann: When I navigate to that directory using Konqueror and click on the dir I get 'access denied'
[03:25] <dwidmann> Hmm, odd indeed
[03:25] <chuen> dwidmann: Then the window opens buy no icons show
[03:25] <dwidmann> okay, do this: "kdesu konqueror /usr"
[03:25] <dwidmann> lets check something
[03:25] <chuen> dwidmann: However, at the bottom it says 25 items 5 files
[03:25] <dwidmann> then, right click on sbin, and go to properties, then click on the permissions tab
[03:26] <chuen> dwidmann: OK. 755. root. root.
[03:26] <dwidmann> click on the advanced button
[03:27] <dwidmann> make sure the checkboxes aren't checked
[03:27] <chuen> dwidmann: Everyting is greyed out
[03:27] <chuen> dwidmann: I tried kdesu konqueror /usr
[03:28] <chuen> dwiddman: Shall I copy results to pastebin?
[03:28] <dwidmann> and you're still in that "root konqueror"?
[03:28] <dwidmann> Sure
[03:28] <chuen> swidmman: Thanks. One sec.
[03:30] <chuen> dwidmann: http://pastebin.com/869405
[03:31] <YumeFrustrated> Hey if i know my winmodem is an Intel
[03:31] <YumeFrustrated> can i just try all the available drivers?
[03:31] <YumeFrustrated> because i cant find which driver i need
[03:31] <YumeFrustrated> and its starting to get to me now
[03:32] <chuen> dwidmann: I have to go but will be back in 10 - 15 mins
[03:32] <dwidmann> kay
[03:32] <chuen> dwidmann: Appreciate your help. V. stuck :(
[03:32] <YumeFrustrated> dwidmanm: do you know i i can just install a driver and see if it works
[03:33] <YumeFrustrated> and if not just remove and try another
[03:33] <YumeFrustrated> till i find one that works?
[03:33] <YumeFrustrated> or will a wrong driver bring down the pain on my modem?
[03:33] <dwidmann> Well, I suppose you probably could, just be sure you keep track of things. Otherwise removing them could become difficult and it could cause trouble if you don't remove them.
[03:33] <YumeFrustrated> argh
[03:34] <YumeFrustrated> okay how complicated is removing a driver?
[03:34] <dwidmann> depends on how complicated installing it was
[03:34] <YumeFrustrated> argh
[03:34] <YumeFrustrated> true i guess
[03:35] <YumeFrustrated> im just getting desperate
[03:35] <YumeFrustrated> i used scanModem to find out what modem i have and what driver i need
[03:35] <dwidmann> YumeFrustrated: where all have you searched for help on it?
[03:35] <YumeFrustrated> and i cant make sense out of the .txt files
[03:35] <YumeFrustrated> ive also looked on the toshiba site and forums for specifications
[03:35] <YumeFrustrated> and people with same problems
[03:35] <dwidmann> I do know I ended up giving up on my one modem way back when, got a serial modem and it worked okay.
[03:36] <YumeFrustrated> no help there either
[03:36] <dwidmann> http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:36] <YumeFrustrated> k Il post about the modem story there
[03:37] <dwidmann> Good luck, you might need it.
[03:37] <YumeFrustrated> I feel like this modem put me through enough trouble to make a Danielle Steel movie
[03:37] <YumeFrustrated> afk
[03:37] <YumeFrustrated> argh, gone even
[03:37] <YumeFrustrated> thanks for your help dwidmann
[03:37] <YumeFrustrated> .quit
[03:37] <YumeFrustrated> ><
[03:41] <bjacob> hi, how can i set the default NLS for all filesystems to UTF-8?
[03:42] <extern> where is wine config file stored?
[03:42] <dwidmann> bjacob, probably have to do it line by line in the /etc/fstab
[03:42] <LjL> extern: ~/.wine - but it's a windows registry really, so use regedit
[03:42] <dwidmann> extern, ~/.wine, I think
[03:42] <bjacob> dwidmann: many filesystems don't provide a nls mount option (according to man mount)
[03:43] <bjacob> this can be set in kernel config, but how to recompile kernel without breaking ubuntu stuff?
[03:43] <dwidmann> bjacob: are you using any of those "many file systems"?
[03:43] <bjacob> ext2, reiserfs, nfs3
[03:45] <dwidmann> bjacob, I"m too sleepy to be sure. I'd best (finally) get to bed.
[03:45] <bjacob> ok, anyone else or are you  all in bed ? :D
[03:46] <dwidmann> bjacob: they're all idling or lurking, most likely
[03:48] <ninHer> hi all
[03:50] <bjacob> ok, i found a ubuntu compile guide
[03:50] <chuen> dwidmann: Ok, back now - had to eat.
[03:51] <bjacob> but seriously, why did you ubuntu guys set the default nls to something else than utf8 ....??
[03:52] <ubuntu__> how do I mount a windows hdd?
[03:53] <Jucato> !ntfs
[03:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:53] <tidus1188> test
[03:53] <tidus1188> ,,
[03:53] <chuen> Can anyone help with this problem pls? http://pastebin.com/869405
[03:54] <tibbar> I tried sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt, im running the live cd atm, so I can't install thins
[03:55] <tibbar> things
[04:01] <tibbar> If I go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions., it says page does not exist
[04:01] <Jucato> chuen: can you run just "kdesu konqueror"?
[04:03] <andre> can anyone tell me why everyonce in a while, after booting up Ubuntu/Nvidia binaries won't recognize my secondary monitor or its ability to provide a res higher than 640x480?
[04:04] <Jucato> tibbar: remove the period '.' at the end of the link
[04:04] <chuen> jucato: Sorry was reading ubuntu bible :)
[04:05] <chuen> jucato: one sec.
[04:05] <Jucato> chuen: heh nice read :)
[04:06] <chuen> jucato: Did you look at the pastebin?
[04:06] <Jucato> chuen: yes. that's why I'm asking you :)
[04:06] <chuen> jucato: I tried and got bad devices etc.
[04:06] <chuen> Then 'Conqueror your Desktop!' opened.
[04:06] <Jucato> chuen: ignore the baddevice errors. does Konqueror launch?
[04:06] <chuen> jucato: Yes :)
[04:07] <Jucato> chuen: then you have no problem :)
[04:07] <chuen> jucato: sigh ...
[04:07] <chuen> jucato: Thanks....
[04:08] <chuen> jucato: But why can't I access sbin any longer?
[04:08] <chuen> I've tried changing permissions back on the command line.
[04:08] <Jucato> where can't you access it?
[04:08] <larson9999> !grub
[04:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:08] <chuen> jucato: via konqueror.
[04:09] <Jucato> chuen: how are you trying to access/go to it?
[04:09] <chuen> jucato: by clicking on the folder.
[04:09] <Jucato> what error does it give you/
[04:09] <Jucato> ?
[04:10] <chuen> jucato: access denied to /sbin
[04:10] <Jucato> hm.. weird...
[04:11] <chuen> jucato: But then the window opens with no icons
[04:11] <chuen> jucato: I can right-click an d check permissions etc.
[04:11] <Jucato> chuen: can you go into it using normal Konqueror?
[04:12] <chuen> jucato: No - the farthest i can get is /root
[04:13] <chuen> juctato: which has 3 shortcuts and 'share'
[04:13] <chuen> jucato: as folders.
[04:14] <Jucato> chuen: hm... really weird, as I can get to /sbin in here... you tried just typing the direct path? (/sbin) ?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:15] <Stanleh> O_O
[04:15] <Stanleh> Is this where all the cool people hang out eh?
[04:15] <chuen> jucato: one sec
[04:16] <chuen> jucato: Ok that lets me into sbin
[04:16] <Jucato> :)
[04:16] <Jucato> afaik, you don't need to be root (kdesu konqueror) to access that
[04:17] <chuen> jucato: So am I 'safe' ? :)
[04:17] <Jucato> yep. now close that Konqueror window you launched with kdesu
[04:17] <chuen> jucato: OK, done.
[04:18] <BluesKaj> just got a friends pc up and running ,  (windows ) , not a linux type "person" . His PC was so infected that it would shut down if one tried to use control panel. The video controller and audio drivers were stripped from the MoBo cuz , reinstalling windows gave only rudimentary 4-bit colour and of course no sound whatsoever ...No wonder ppl find linux appealing
[04:18] <Jucato> now you're safe :)
[04:18] <chuen> jucato: I got scared because som many things are dependent on accessing sbin (aren' thye?)
[04:18] <Tm_T> :p
[04:18] <Jucato> chuen: sort of :)
[04:19] <chuen> jucato: Thanks for you help.
[04:19] <Tm_T> chuen: Yup, it's only hidden, not _gone_ ;)
[04:19] <chuen> Tm_T: Ah!
[04:19] <Jucato> !hidden | chuen
[04:19] <ubotu> chuen: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:20] <chuen> jucato: Thanks. All I was doing was trying to cp a file there so that i was in PATH to execute.r
[04:21] <Tachyon> I believe I've set Firefox as my default browser, but Thunderbird still opens links in Konqueror
[04:22] <Jucato> Tachyon: run this command in Konsole: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:22] <Jucato> then choose firefox
[04:24] <Tachyon> Jucato: Excellent, thanks.
[04:24] <WasserDragoon> hi @ll
[04:35] <blekos> hi, could u tell me how i can backup konctact, in fact i am only interested in emails,
[04:35] <blekos> i am going to restore my system and dont want to less them
[04:38] <extern> can I change an icon for a shell script?
[04:38] <extern> (only one file)
[04:44] <dymek> Witam wszystkich
[04:44] <Archngel> Re everyone
[04:49] <distro-tester> ok im back u still here ?
[04:49] <True_Friend> After a long thinking i think i should give a try to Edgy by upgrading from dapper, can some one tell me how can i upgrade from dapper to edgy using install cd??
[04:49] <True_Friend> is it possible or..........it is just my thought.......
[04:49] <distro-tester> !update
[04:49] <Jucato> True_Friend: alternate install cd or live cd?
[04:49] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:49] <distro-tester> hello jucato
[04:49] <Jucato> hi distro-tester
[04:49] <True_Friend> usual cd which i use to install Edgy
[04:50] <distro-tester> im whit the 32 bit now i told u of the dvd i had instable
[04:50] <distro-tester> but when i load the start the icon that loads kubuntu is different from 64 bit version is that normal?
[04:50] <True_Friend> GUI cd which is commonly used i heard abt a typical command line cd also but do not used it ever always use this cd
[04:50] <Jucato> True_Friend: hm... I'm guessing that would be the Live/Desktop CD
[04:50] <Jucato> unfortunately, you can't use that to upgrade
[04:50] <True_Friend> ohhhhhhhhhh
[04:51] <True_Friend> so i have to download another one
[04:51] <distro-tester> im speaking of the icon that xp has to under windows at start up
[04:51] <True_Friend> but from where?
[04:51] <True_Friend> i only know abt this live cd( i thoungt it is the install cd as it is used to install system)
[04:51] <distro-tester> like on 64 bit the icon that makes u see kubuntu is loading is different from the 32 bit version one is that normal jucato?
[04:52] <Jucato> True_Friend: if you don't want to install all over again, I suggest you just upgrade through the internet, using the guide given above