[02:27] <ricanelite> okay i have envy running on ubuntu 7.10 and everything works fine i get my Philips LCD HDTV Screen displayed as the second monitor fine. The one major problem is when the Philips is displayed i cant see the menu panel and if I open a application like Firefox the panel for that application is also not showing up. It is there but I just cant see it. I have it set up to 1280x720. What can I do?
[02:27] <amenado> StPatrick-> cd  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945
[02:27] <mikedoty> But now I can't alt-shift-tab.  Minor inconvenience.  How can I restore this functionality?
[02:27] <[Rocc]> wtf
[02:27] <[Rocc1> Hello
[02:27] <[Rocc1> I LIKE MEN!
[02:27] <c0ldfusion> here we go
[02:27] <soulreaper> you to !!!!
[02:27] <[Rocc]> dude why r u starting beef and you dont know me?
[02:28] <mikedoty> Stop spamming away my question
[02:28] <unocrash> [Rocc1: ummmmm...... ok
[02:28] <StPatrick> amenado,  It gave me errors
[02:28] <[Rocc1> Why did my color change?
[02:28] <methods> is there no autoexpect package for ubuntu ?
[02:28] <[Rocc]> ty ljl
[02:28] <soulreaper> can anyone help me with cedega on ubuntu
[02:29] <unocrash> ljl?
[02:29] <unocrash> oh
[02:30] <unocrash> "ty"
[02:30] <StPatrick> amenado,  Is Annikan dead yet?
[02:30] <mgray5159> hello
[02:30] <soulreaper> anyone please
[02:30] <mgray5159> I am new to this channel
[02:30] <mgray5159> how are you all doing
[02:30] <unocrash> fine
[02:30] <mophead> stpatrick: what error did you get?
[02:30] <amenado> StPatrick-> changing directory gave you errors?
[02:30] <mgray5159> I am also new to ubuntu
[02:30] <zcat[1]> !skype
[02:30] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:30] <unocrash> oh
[02:30] <StPatrick> amen no the command you told me to run in the directory, lol
[02:30] <unocrash> !msn
[02:30] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[02:30] <StPatrick> Making a pastebin now
[02:31] <mgray5159> does anyton know how to fix the skype problem with skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:31] <[Rocc]> ok, leenucks still here?
[02:31] <amenado> StPatrick-> cd  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945  <-- this gave you errors?
[02:31] <StPatrick> mophead, amenado  http://pastebin.ca/973343
[02:31] <StPatrick> amenado, no the command you told me to run inside there did.
[02:32] <mophead> hm.
[02:32] <gliss> I'm surprised ubuntu can use my multimedia keys on my keyboard
[02:32] <gliss> Everything on this computer works flawless with ubuntu
[02:32] <StPatrick> gliss,  Im Sooo happy for you.
[02:32] <gliss> Except for the sleep button I think
[02:32] <jim> Hi... I'd like to ask if someone recommended to StPatrick to come to #debian to ask about a ubuntu wireless issue?
[02:32] <[Rocc]> umm
[02:32] <amenado> StPatrick-> its going to a wrong directory when loading?  you finished compiling what you were doing earlier? Im referring to the old stock module
[02:32] <soulreaper> ok there is 1193 people and no one can help me what is wrong with that
[02:33] <StPatrick> amenado,  I dont understand.
[02:33] <refrax> what is a free alternative to vmware for linux?
[02:33] <wasup> "force quit" window is stuck
[02:33] <jim> xen
[02:33] <wasup> how the fuck do I get it off
[02:33] <gliss> what's the difference between suspend an hibernate?
[02:33] <MattJ> refrax: Try virtualbox
[02:33] <amenado> StPatrick-> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko  <--this...
[02:33] <gliss> StPatrick: yeah, it rocks
[02:33] <LjL> !language | wasup
[02:33] <ubotu> wasup: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:33] <c0ldfusion> !friendly | wasup
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about friendly - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <LjL> wasup: type "xkill" in alt+f2 and click on the window
[02:33] <wasup> how in tarnation do I get it off!
[02:33] <amenado> StPatrick-> that dont look same as the directory i asked you to cd to
[02:33] <refrax> MattJ: ok installing now :)
[02:33] <StPatrick> jim,  He left dude. He had to go. Told me when he left to ask in here, or in #Debian, that someone might be able to help.
[02:34] <wasup> !using ubotu | c0ldfusion
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about using ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <StPatrick> amenado,  =/
[02:34] <unocrash> !language | wasup
[02:34] <ubotu> wasup: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:34] <[Rocc]> Question, what one should i change the cd thing too.... um like 1. remoable device...
[02:34] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im tryin man i really am.
[02:34] <icesword> !me
[02:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:34] <wasup> unocrash, what did i say this time
[02:34] <LjL> !fishing
[02:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist.  At night, the ice-weasels come.
[02:35] <Dogma_> So, is anyone here running Ubuntu on a mac Via Paralells?
[02:35] <wasup> how the hell do I get the "force quit" window off without restarting
[02:36] <unocrash> !botabuse | StPatrick, Dr_willis, c0ldfusion
[02:36] <ubotu> StPatrick, Dr_willis, c0ldfusion: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:36] <LjL> wasup: i have no idea why xkill wouldn't do it...
[02:36] <StPatrick> ubotu I forgive you. No one seems to know much about fixing my wifi.
[02:36] <style23> kitche it was named grandparadiso webbrowser. I kept clicking the firefox icon.... it works now thank you
[02:36] <unocrash> !me
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[02:36] <christophoros> hello guys i installed utubu last night and now i am trying to connect an external harddrive but it wont let me see the contents of the drive any ideas?
[02:36] <Survivorman> !wireless | StPatrick
[02:36] <ubotu> StPatrick: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:37] <banditofdoom> hi guys
[02:37] <wasup> LjL, ubuntu has been pissing me off lately.  Rhythmbox constantly just randomly shuts off... firefox freezes on very simple tasks... and when ubuntu crashes, it crashes so bad i have to restart my computer to be able to do anything
[02:37] <banditofdoom> hi all
[02:37] <amenado> StPatrick-> what do you have in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/net/ieee80211 ?
[02:37] <banditofdoom> whens zday comin out
[02:37] <LjL> wasup: i'm sorry.
[02:37] <c0ldfusion> wasup: mine doesn't do that
[02:37] <unocrash> LjL: Hey!
[02:37] <unocrash> I wasn't playing
[02:37] <unocrash> I had the ubotu window up
[02:37] <jim> StPatrick: have you determined your chipset and driver name?
[02:38] <LjL> unocrash, you weren't helping either... the warning had been given, then use PM if you need to give further factoids
[02:38] <StPatrick> jim,  chipset seems to be Realtek RTL8187b
[02:38] <StPatrick> jim, driver is anyone's guess
[02:38] <jim> ok, what linux driver for that?
[02:38] <jim> preferably your determination
[02:39] <unocrash> whats -o mean?
[02:39] <StPatrick> amenado,  It says macsoft
[02:39] <ricanelite> im trying to save my x configuration file and im getting this error message Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[02:39] <tocmo0nlord> i get this error while trying to install adobe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62276/ help ?
[02:39] <jim> unocrash: sideways lollipop
[02:39] <StPatrick> amenado, sorry softmac
[02:39] <StPatrick> jim,  Are you talking to me?
[02:40] <amenado> StPatrick-> thats the only content of that directory?
[02:40] <StPatrick> amenado,  Yes
[02:40] <unocrash> why a sideways lollipop?
[02:40] <jim> unocrash: I dunno, that's what it looks like to me...
[02:40] <amenado> StPatrick-> what happend to the original that were there?
[02:40] <StPatrick> amenado,  What original....
[02:40] <StPatrick> amenado,  I have no idea.  I dont know what was there.
[02:41] <refrax> MattJ: thank's for the suggestion, works good :D
[02:41] <StPatrick> amenado,  I didnt even know that folder was there
[02:41] <amenado> StPatrick-> files that start wtih ieee80211
[02:41] <Survivorman> StPatrick, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571046&page=6
[02:41] <MattJ> refrax: Great :D
[02:41] <refrax> MattJ: vmware was giving me problems
[02:41] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, don't install rpm in ubuntu
[02:41] <vocx> !deb | tocmo0nlord
[02:41] <ubotu> tocmo0nlord: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[02:41] <pyrak> i can't umount an sd card, how do i tell what process is making it "busy"?
[02:41] <Survivorman> StPatrick, there is a partial fix it seems
[02:41] <MattJ> refrax: I prefer VirtualBox in many ways, yes
[02:41] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  lsof /dev/SDCARDDEVICE
[02:41] <tocmo0nlord> so i cant install rpm files in ubuntu ?
[02:41] <icesword> pyrak, cd out that dir
[02:41] <christophoros> am trying to mount the usb drive but it wont let me it says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" anyone can help me out?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  i think.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> pyrak,  be sure you are cd'd out of any shells accessing the device.
[02:42] <Survivorman> StPatrick, here is a fix for your wifi it looks: http://quilombo.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/realtek-rtl8187b-working-in-ubuntu-710-using-ndiswrapper/
[02:42] <amenado> StPatrick-> your wifi is a usb dongle?
[02:42] <StPatrick> Survivorman,  Finding posts about my problem is not my problem I can search google, and browse forums all day long.  Thank you though. I appreciate your looking, and assistance. However, what I need is someone to help me DO one of those fixes. I can't put the processes listed into effect.
[02:42] <jim> tocmo0nlord: you could look into alien -- might work even -- other than that, it's not recommended
[02:42] <DigitalKiwi> if ubuntu is debian then why is there ubuntu?
[02:42] <StPatrick> amenado,  It;s internal. Built in, but usb.
[02:42] <pyrak> Dr_willis, thanks, that did it
[02:43] <StPatrick> Survivorman,   Please do nto take this as me being ungrateful. I am very appreciative of your searching.
[02:43] <amenado> StPatrick-> built in but usb? usb are normally removable..
[02:43] <MattJ> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu is based on Debian, it is not Debian
[02:43] <hexoroid> anybody good with rdns ?
[02:43] <DistroJockey> !debian | DigitalKiwi
[02:43] <ubotu> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[02:43] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im aware of that.  Don't ask me to explain it. It's an internal USB.
[02:43] <jim> DigitalKiwi: it's not debian. the only thing in common really is the packaging format... and even that is questionable, because ubuntu takes all its software from debian unstable and works on it
[02:43] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, jim, he could try alien but it is not needed to install adobe reader.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> DigitalKiwi,  its no longer 'debian'  - its  branched away from debian.    it also has different design goals then debian does.
[02:43] <hexoroid> anybody good with rdns ?
[02:44] <refrax> pyrak: next time if that happens, and that isn't the cause, then do 'fuser /dev/cdrom' and it will tell you processes using it
[02:44] <unocrash> LjL: what's -o mean?
[02:44] <jim> unocrash: what's it mean... to me? to you? to some unix command? which command?
[02:44] <Survivorman> np StPatrick
[02:44] <hexoroid> anybody good with rdns ?
[02:44] <StPatrick> Survivorman,  Think you can walk me through one of them?
[02:44] <amenado> StPatrick-> I guess since you dont have those ieee80211  files go ahead and compile those what you were doing earlier...see if your compiled modules would work..
[02:45] <Lichig0> I have one simple question: When Ubuntu goes to 8.04(or whatever the new version is) will my current one (7.10) notify me that the upgrade is available
[02:45] <StPatrick> amenado,  Dude I dont remember what your taslking about. Infact.. I dont know what Compiling is...
[02:45] <LjL> !modes > unocrash    (unocrash, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:45] <joot> Lichigo, Yes
[02:45] <[Rocc]> i still need help :(
[02:45] <Lichig0> ty
[02:45] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  thats why youinstalled the 'build-essential' package earlier. for the C compiler stuff.
[02:46] <unocrash> [Rocc]: Can you not boot to the cd
[02:46] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  i remember installing that.. i dont know what its for. I installed it cause you said i would need it.
[02:46] <maynards-girl> how do i edit tags for songs using Exaile?
[02:46] <xfa> how can i configure speaks and headphones output seperatly?
[02:46] <mophead> !modes > me
[02:46] <amenado> StPatrick-> you were referring to a step chmod a+x remove-old && sudo ./remove-old   this may have removed it..
[02:46] <jim> StPatrick: lots to do, lots to learn... have you removed something that you're going to have to replace in order to get something working?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  as i said then if you are going to COmpile source code. You will need it..  that site you gave had the source code.
[02:47] <danc3> maynards-girl: did you read the documentation for "Exaile"?
[02:47] <unocrash> !hi > me
[02:47] <StPatrick> jim,  It seems that way
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> oh
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> m
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> g
[02:47] <DistroJockey> xfa: running   alsamixer   from a terminal didn't help?
[02:47] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  I... think I understand.
[02:47] <unocrash> [Rocc]
[02:47] <[Nevan]> can anyone help me with this script: http://pastebin.ca/973342 plz?
[02:47] <StPatrick> amenado,  Indeed. That seems likely.
[02:47] <xfa> if i set headphones to max an front down both volumes are 0
[02:47] <osxdude|laptop> sorry, ubuntu alternate is installing on my old desktop and it's stuck at Configuring apt (40%): Scanning the mirror...
[02:47] <xfa> maybe a driver problem?
[02:48] <amenado> StPatrick-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7  <--this was the link you have pasted earlier when i came in..
[02:48] <StPatrick> amenado,  RIght, Im trying to do that.
[02:48] <icesword> osxdude|laptop, nana,is it connected to internet
[02:48] <Dr_willis> [Nevan],  first line is wrong   #! /bin/sh    NO space in there.. for a starter
[02:48] <maynards-girl> danc3, i didn't see it on their wiki or site
[02:48] <xfa>  Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8) is my audio chip
[02:48] <Dr_willis> [Nevan],  and you proberly want #!/bin/bash
[02:48] <osxdude|laptop> icesword I assume it is.
[02:48] <StPatrick> amenado,   I dont know how to explain why this is so difficult for me.
[02:48] <amenado> StPatrick-> when you executed this   chmod a+x remove-old && sudo ./remove-old   this may have removed it..
[02:48] <DistroJockey> xfa: alot of devices cancel the speakers out when phones are plugged in *shrugs*
[02:48] <christophoros> guys?
[02:48] <christophoros> am trying to mount the usb drive but it wont let me it says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" anyone can help me out?
[02:48] <StPatrick> amenado,  That seems likely....
[02:48] <unocrash> http://pastebin.ca/973363
[02:49] <danc3> maynards-girl: have you done any basic Googling for instructions?  Have you even tried to actually *USE* the program to do what you want?
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> Ethernet is plugged in, and I configured the wireless manually, icesword
[02:49] <StPatrick> amenado,  SO now what?
[02:49] <unocrash> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:49] <amenado> StPatrick-> continue with the steps
[02:49] <icesword> osxdude|laptop, then wait
[02:49] <StPatrick> I did
[02:49] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop what do you see on alt-f4? (or one of those, has the log)
[02:49] <StPatrick> amenado,  I did, Then I pastebin linked you the errors it returned.
[02:49] <[Nevan]> Dr_willis: the problem is here: /usr/bin/screen -DmS realm $dir/$exe &> $home/test.log
[02:49] <[Nevan]> the log dont be saved :/
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> haha, funny, nickrud
[02:49] <xfa> yeah but my speakers still run after plugin in the headphones
[02:49] <unocrash> !Brainfuck > me
[02:49] <jim> StPatrick: there's a coupla possibilities... you'll have to either get help from someone or learn the whole process (albeit a step at a time) yourself
[02:49] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop ?
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> ooh!!!
[02:49] <osxdude|laptop> I see it
[02:50] <StPatrick> jim,  I know man, Im trying to do both...  For now, though, I need wireless, so im tryin to find help.
[02:50] <amenado> StPatrick-> you downloaded that  "Next download ieee80211-1.1.12 which is the newest todate."  ?
[02:50] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud it says it's failing to downloa
[02:50] <osxdude|laptop> d
[02:50] <StPatrick> I downloaded the .18 one that is actually newest, yes
[02:50] <Dr_willis> [Nevan],  try it with bash instead of sh for a start. put an 'echo' in front of that line, to see what its expanding to exatly for a test also.  Youmay have some typo.
[02:50] <jim> osxdude|laptop: so... you're running windows right now?
[02:50] <tocmo0nlord> i get this error when trying to load alienarena2008 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62278/
[02:50] <StPatrick> amenado,  They are sitting in a temp folder
[02:51] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop it's trying to get from a mirror probably
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> ooh
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> it just tried again.
[02:51] <amenado> StPatrick-> then just follow the steps per that instruction in the link
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud that's excatly what it's foing
[02:51] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im tryin to tell you i already did.... but it's cool. Ill do it again
[02:51] <unocrash> osxdude|laptop: ar u from www.osx-e.com?
[02:51] <osxdude|laptop> ...yes
[02:51] <vocx> tocmo0nlord, you shoudn't be using the root terminal for games, just to do administrative stuff.
[02:52] <unocrash> thoguht so.....
[02:52] <DistroJockey> xfa: ohh. There are more channels to the right in alsamixer also. Maybe play with 'Center' or 'Surround'. Apart from that, not sure.
[02:52] <StPatrick> amen Ok, I downloaded the file.
[02:52] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:52] <amenado> StPatrick-> sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build  <--I assume you are about to do this?
[02:52] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:52] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop this may sound silly, but if you hit escape a few times you can go back in the install, and pick a different time zone in a different country  (or maybe hand select a mirror)
[02:52] <osxdude|laptop> first forum I went to for macosx emulation help...
[02:52] <osxdude|laptop> ooh, cool nickrud
[02:52] <StPatrick> amenado,  Yes
[02:52] <mgray5159> does anyone know how to fix the skype problem with skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:52] <StPatrick> amenado,  Lets see what happens.
[02:52] <[Nevan]> the problem is the test.log is empty... tried with only: $dir/$exe >> $home/test.log
[02:52] <[Nevan]> and all work good but i need screen and with screen dont work
[02:53] <nonix4> Can I make grub/casper boot directly from a .iso on an usb drive or do I really need to extract that huge amount of data there?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> tocmo0nlord,  downloading that game now..:) going to take 20 min. :(
[02:53] <xfa> Distrojockey, i got headphone, pcm, frpnt front mic and microphone
[02:53] <StPatrick> ln: creating symbolic link `/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic' to `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic/': File exists
[02:53] <StPatrick> ryan@RPCNotebook:~$
[02:53] <Dr_willis> tocmo0nlord,  downloading that game now.. down to 10 min! :)
[02:53] <tocmo0nlord> ah!
[02:53] <SilentSounD> can someone please help me get my "eraser header" disabled? It's an AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad Handlers=mouse3 event5
[02:54] <DistroJockey> xfa: what was it you were trying to do again?
[02:54] <tocmo0nlord> yes, problem was that it wouldn run under root
[02:54] <tocmo0nlord> got it working on reg terminal
[02:54] <Dr_willis> tocmo0nlord,  most likelyt you need to run the game as a user. since root cant access the desktop/X
[02:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:54] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  What game is that?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  AlienArena2008 - it just came out a few weeks ago.
[02:54] <xfa> i want to listen to music with the headphones, but i don't want to use the speaks at the same time
[02:54] <DistroJockey> !install | nonix4  (see the last link)
[02:54] <ubotu> nonix4  (see the last link): Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:54] <soulreaper> well can anyone help me now
[02:54] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  What is it?
[02:54] <amenado> StPatrick-> then next step?  make && sudo make install     -- im just following the steps on that link.
[02:54] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok.
[02:55] <vocx> StPatrick, amenado why are you doing those symlinks? You can mess the system like that.
[02:55] <unocrash> osxdude|laptop: u there?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  ALiens in an arena :) http://red.planetarena.org/
[02:55] <xfa> DistroJockey, using a laptop it's useless when i am travelling and both devices run
[02:55] <StPatrick> vocx,  Desperatly trying to fix my wifi
[02:55] <christophoros> guys anyone can help me out?
[02:55] <amenado> vocx-> per the link he posted earlier..just following it..not sure if its a workable solution for him
[02:55] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/disk -o force
[02:55] <christophoros> mount: only root can do that
[02:55] <StPatrick> vocx,  Can you help me?
[02:55]  * StPatrick Begs.
[02:55] <tocmo0nlord> meh game looks crappy on laptop
[02:55] <tocmo0nlord> laggy
[02:55] <christophoros> why i cant do it?
[02:55] <Starnestommy> christophoros: put sudo before that command
[02:55] <refrax> christophoros: add sudo in front of the laptop
[02:55] <refrax> christophoros: LOL
[02:55] <unocrash> !pastebin > christophoros
[02:55] <refrax> christophoros: i mean command not laptop
[02:55] <DistroJockey> xfa: agreed, what if you mute or drop the volume on "Front" ?
[02:56] <osxdude|laptop> yes
[02:56] <unocrash> ok
[02:56] <osxdude|laptop> !offtopic | unocrash
[02:56] <ubotu> unocrash: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:56] <nickrud> crisnoh also, add a space between sdb1 and /media
[02:56] <vocx> amenado, it better to provide no help at all, that not knowing what those commands do. Be careful when helping others.
[02:56] <amenado> vocx-> i can not attest to the workability of the link he pasted earlier, im just walking trhough the steps with him
[02:56] <xfa> DistroJockey, then headphones are mute too
[02:56] <unocrash> Im not dumb
[02:56] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1/media/disk -o force
[02:56] <christophoros> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[02:56] <unocrash> Im on ubuntu to help. im just randomly chatting from time to time.
[02:56] <StPatrick> vocx,  He's just tryin to help man. He's just trying to help me understand a website explaination
[02:56] <nickrud> crisnoh sorry bout that
[02:56] <christophoros> etc etc it shows me the help think
[02:57] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud guess what. I pressed alt+ctrl+f2 and went into the consle, and typed in ifconfig and, what do ya know, it isn't connected.
[02:57] <DistroJockey> xfa: pressing  m  on a channel will toggle mute
[02:57] <StPatrick> vocx,  Do you know how to fix my wifi?
[02:57] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop ah!
[02:57] <Frogger626> Uh, hey
[02:57] <refrax> christophoros: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -o force
[02:57] <refrax> christophoros: copy and paste that
[02:57] <amenado> vocx  he had removed the ieee80211 files so -- logical to may as well finish the compile steps he was working on
[02:57] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud, i'm going to not set up the network
[02:57] <christophoros> ty
[02:57] <StPatrick> 8 min on alienarena
[02:57] <christophoros> ><
[02:57] <vocx> StPatrick, you can follow the advise you want, but if the one helping you isn't even sure, you can mess things up badly.
[02:57] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop done that myself a couple times, easy to set up networking
[02:58] <refrax> christophoros: tell me if it worked
[02:58] <StPatrick> vocx,  Well, what do you reccomend then man? I need wifi working, and I'm completely new to linux. :(
[02:58] <osxdude|laptop> nickrud, that is correct, remember I'm in the alternate disk :D
[02:58] <xfa> yeah but muting front mutes the rest
[02:58] <amenado> vocx-> it would not be so bad, when missing those  ieee80211 to load ipw3945
[02:58] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop I would have kept my mouth shut otherwise, it's the only install I use (and know even a little about)
[02:58] <xfa> DistroJockey, istn there a tool letting me configure that seperatly
[02:59] <vocx> amenado, I get it. However, I think that when you install kernel headers the symlinks are automatically set, you don't need to do it yourself. He is using a strange non-ubuntu guide?
[02:59] <christophoros> refrax yeh it worked
[02:59] <unocrash> !mythbuntu > me
[02:59] <christophoros> thx alot
[02:59] <joot> StPatrick< Go to the ubuntu forums wifi can be a real bitch :-)
[02:59] <StPatrick> vocx,  It was on Ubuntu forums.
[02:59] <xfa> DistroJockey, i can chose between als mixer (HDA intel) and realtek ALC888
[02:59] <osxdude|laptop> uh
[02:59] <StPatrick> joot,  Yea, thanks, I know.
[02:59] <refrax> christophoros: you're welcome :)
[02:59] <mophead> xfa: What worked for me was muting front completely, then turning the headphones way up
[02:59] <osxdude|laptop> there is no floppy disk, and there was an I/O error on dev/fd0
[02:59] <unocrash> whats gobuntu?
[03:00] <refrax> unocrash: a template for other "ubuntus" i believe
[03:00] <StPatrick> joot,  As I tried to explain earlier, finiding information isnt my problem. It's taking that information, and fixing anything with it that's stoppingn me. I need a translator.
[03:00] <amenado> vocx i dont know, he found the solution, we were looking for the stock  ieee80211 but he has gone far enuff on the steps to have removed these..so we may as well go forward with building a newer  ieee80211
[03:00] <unocrash> !gobuntu
[03:00] <ubotu> gobuntu is a freedom-focused flavour of Ubuntu intended for experienced Linux enthusiasts. See http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/gobuntu for more information and download mirrors..
[03:00] <DistroJockey> xfa: has the laptop got a manual volume control?  alsamixer is the only thing I can think of atm. And yeah, as you said it may be a driver or changing devices may help.
[03:00] <refrax> unocrash: to create other's like kubuntu and xubuntu
[03:00] <unocrash> oh
[03:00] <vocx> StPatrick, Okay, just remember that you can't rush things up. It doesn't matter if you are desperate, and being new to linux doesn't help.
[03:00] <nickrud> osxdude|laptop I read somewhere that setting a kernel option of all_generic_ide fixes that, you might want to google a bit to confirm
[03:00] <StPatrick> vocx,  Been trying to make it fork 7 days 23 hours now.
[03:00] <StPatrick> vocx,  work*
[03:00] <[Rocc]> Distro: could you help me, i have no clue which one to change to the disk drive..
[03:01] <xfa> DistroJockey, muting front mutes all
[03:01] <mophead> xfa: I also have it switched to alsa mixer
[03:01] <osxdude|laptop> ah, ok. because my laptop's ubuntu install says there is a floppy drive on the system, lol (nickrud)
[03:01] <StPatrick> vocx,  I will ask again, will you help me?
[03:01] <amenado> StPatrick this is a new install relatively speaking right?
[03:01] <jim> why doesn't distro rhyme with bistro?
[03:01] <unocrash> whats medibuntu?
[03:01] <mophead> jim: bistro is french
[03:01] <Iz> how can i update amsn ? :o
[03:01] <nickrud> !medibuntu | unocrash
[03:01] <StPatrick> amenado,  I formatted less than 2 hours ago.
[03:01] <ubotu> unocrash: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:01] <refrax> !medibuntu
[03:01] <joot> StPatrick, I cant really help I got into a situation with my card getting on the blacklist some how and I never resolved the issue on that puter..
[03:01] <DistroJockey> xfa: sorry, I have no more ideas atm
[03:01] <newbie> is it possible to play PS2 games on ubuntu?
[03:01] <StPatrick> amenado,  And I have formatted this laptop about 30 time sin the last 6 days.
[03:01] <xfa> yeah but if i change headphones volume nothing happens..
[03:02] <unocrash> is it possible to download medibuntu?
[03:02] <StPatrick> amenado,  And Im happy to format again and start fresh.
[03:02] <[Rocc]> Newbie: try a emulator...
[03:02] <YeaSt> hey, guys
[03:02] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: are you in a device config screen or a boot order screen?
[03:02] <mophead> xfa: I know this sounds stupid but double check that the headphones are plugged into the right hole.
[03:02] <YeaSt> anyone using virtualbox?
[03:02] <vocx> StPatrick, my wireless worked after 3 months, so don't complain. Follow amenado, since he has already helped you.
[03:02] <nickrud> unocrash read the link given
[03:02] <newbie> [Rocc], which one would you suggest?
[03:02] <osxdude|laptop> ok
[03:02] <amenado> StPatrick-> okay cool..
[03:02] <YeaSt> I have some problem with the keyboard in virtual guest machine
[03:02] <[Rocc]> Distro: "AwardBIOS Setup Utility" is at the top...
[03:02] <mophead> !ask | Yeast
[03:02] <ubotu> Yeast: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:03] <StPatrick> vocx,  Im not complaining. I'm stating a fact. Im not rushing anything, i am a little rushed, cause people helping me keep having to leave 1/2 way through the process..
[03:03] <[Rocc]> Newbie: i wouldn't know, sorry
[03:03] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: and the name of the page you are on in there?
[03:03] <StPatrick> amenado,  So, are we continuing :P?
[03:03] <amenado> StPatrick-> so go on withthat  step    make && sudo make install
[03:03] <joot> newbie, I think there is a ps emulator in add remove programs
[03:03] <[Rocc]> Distro: im on the boot part
[03:03] <StPatrick> amenado,  Give me a minute. I gotta pull everythign back up. I closed everything down when vocx interrupted.
[03:03] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sec, looking something up
[03:03] <LjL> joot, newbie: not in add/remove programs perhaps (because most come without a graphical front-end by default, and add/remove only shows graphical programs), but there are certainly some in the repositories (use synaptic)
[03:03] <YeaSt> I could not type in virtualbox guest machine
[03:03] <xfa> mophead, i can hear sound with the headphones but i can't sepratly change the volume
[03:04] <[Rocc]> Distro: kk ill be here
[03:04] <StPatrick> amenado,  DO you have the site up? would you link me please?
[03:04] <soulreaper> any one use cedega on ubuntu
[03:04] <LjL> joot: uh... you said "i think". i somehow read that as "i don't think".
[03:04] <refrax> YeaSt: I am using virtualbox right now, why what is your problem?
[03:04] <Silicium> how i can use variables in xarg statements?
[03:04] <xfa> Front Volume and Headphones Volume run parallel, it seems to me
[03:04] <Silicium> iE: find *.so |xarg cp $1 /usr/lib/
[03:04] <amenado> StPatrick-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=837922&postcount=7
[03:04] <Silicium> $1 doesnt work
[03:04] <mgray5159> does anyone know how to fix the skype problem with skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXv.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:04] <mophead> xfa: what eventually helped me was plugging my headphones into the speakers, and controlling volume through the speakers, with my front on mute.
[03:04] <troxor> Silicium: use curly braces
[03:04] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok, do i need to be in a particular folder to do that command?
[03:05] <Silicium> mhm?
[03:05] <Silicium> troxor: i dont know
[03:05] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: does what this site contain look similar:  http://www.computerhope.com/help/phoenixa.htm
[03:05] <xfa> yeah but i am using a laptop
[03:05] <troxor> Silicium: find / -name "*.so" | xargs cp {} /usr/lib/ \;`
[03:05] <troxor> Silicium: but you probably don't want to do that command ;)
[03:05] <[Rocc]> Distro: no
[03:05] <xfa> so i could open the laptop and work it out :D
[03:05] <Dr_willis> Silicium,  i always google for xargs examples. :)
[03:06] <joot> newbie, Sorry it is a PCX emulator my bad :-(
[03:06] <amenado> StPatrick-> whereever you were after downloading those ieee80211 file
[03:06] <newbie> joot, no problem :)
[03:06] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: see anything about first boot device?
[03:06] <StPatrick> amenado, the folder i unzipped them to?
[03:06] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes
[03:06] <troxor> Silicium: according to man xargs, it should be '{}' instead, sorry
[03:07] <[Rocc]> Distro: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/c00814740.jpg looks like mine
[03:07] <StPatrick> amenado,  I dont know how to get to it =/ I suck.
[03:07] <amenado> StPatrick-> thats where the Makefile is... the target make and make install
[03:07] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sweet, looking
[03:07] <joot> LjL, No I meant " think" I just thought wrong that is all P
[03:07] <amenado> StPatrick-> change directory == cd
[03:07] <[Rocc]> Distro: ok
[03:07] <StPatrick> amenado,  right
[03:07] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: see that boot page at the top, you at that one?
[03:08] <[Rocc]> Distro: yeah
[03:08] <bruenig> troxor: xargs is useless there
[03:08] <Silicium> thanks
[03:08] <StPatrick> amenado,  It's making!
[03:08] <bruenig> find / -name '*.so' -exec cp '{}' /usrlib ';'
[03:08] <StPatrick> Error 2
[03:08] <bruenig> one command is success
[03:08] <StPatrick> amenado,  Error 2
[03:08] <StPatrick> Want a pastebin?
[03:08] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes please
[03:08] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: and what order are they in now?
[03:09] <[Rocc]> Here distro
[03:09] <[Rocc]> lemme take a pic
[03:09] <troxor> bruenig: yeah, -exec is better
[03:09] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: that would be great :)
[03:09] <StPatrick> amenado, http://pastebin.ca/973388
[03:09] <jim> StPatrick: you're going to have to find the real error. first: make clean
[03:09] <firan45> ADI
[03:09] <jim> what command did you use to build?
[03:09] <StPatrick> jim,  I cant take directions from 2 people at once. Are you taking over?
[03:09] <YeaSt> refrax:  I just could not type anything in virtual machine
[03:09] <jim> no
[03:10] <refrax> YeaSt: odd
[03:10] <jair__> Hello, ¿could someone help me? I have connectivity isssues with firefox after installingmy new wireless router. All other computers in the house work perfectly, one with windows and the other with Gutsy
[03:10] <MrStonedOne> sound was working, after having skype running and xmms running at the same time, sound stopped working in both, cords where checked, reboot didn't fix it
[03:10] <StPatrick> jim,  you can see what command i use at the link http://pastebin.ca/973388
[03:10] <MrStonedOne> any ideas?
[03:10] <refrax> YeaSt: what was the os on the vb?
[03:10] <DeVonne> If I goto Hardy what is the worst that can happen?
[03:10] <jim> StPatrick: which line?
[03:10] <newbie> is there any way I could load an ISO image into the cdrom without burning a CD, or is there some software to open the image file and execute its content?
[03:10] <StPatrick> jim,  Top.
[03:10] <refrax> YeaSt: was it after the installation of the OS on virtualbox?
[03:10] <MrStonedOne> i cant get sound to work in any app, after checking vol levels
[03:10] <[Rocc]> Distro: its being sent to my email now...
[03:10] <Dr_willis> DeVonne,  a update breaks the system for a few days. :)
[03:10] <YeaSt> refrax: it doesnot matter, it does not work even in installation process
[03:11] <jair__> I've tried disabling IPv6, cleaning the DNS caché and eliminating the word feisty from my user agent, to no avail
[03:11] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: k
[03:11] <DeVonne> Dr_willis:  what do you mean?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> newbie,  you can mount iso imatge files easially enough
[03:11] <mophead> DeVonne: do you really want to find out?
[03:11] <amenado> StPatrick-> follow the suggestion per your paste..starting around line 5
[03:11] <bazhang> DeVonne: hardy discussion in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> DeVonne,  a few weeks ago a kernel update. made things unbootable for a day. :) befor that no sound for a few days.. befor that . samba was broke
[03:11] <MrStonedOne> !sound
[03:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:11] <DeVonne> Ok thanks!
[03:11] <Dr_willis> !iso | newbie
[03:11] <ubotu> newbie: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:11] <[Rocc]> Distro: can we talk on Query?
[03:11] <StPatrick> so type that in?
[03:11] <level09> is there any open source solution like Cpanel ?
[03:11] <Starnestommy> level09: ebox?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> newbie,  or you may want to try the fuseiso tools.
[03:12] <level09> or WHM
[03:12] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: what is Query?
[03:12] <Starnestommy> DistroJockey: private message
[03:12]  * level09 is checking ebox
[03:12] <[Rocc]> Distro: private message on mirc
[03:12] <MrStonedOne> none of the !sound info seems to be fore when sound stops working
[03:12] <MrStonedOne> for*
[03:12] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: sure, but you will need to register your nick
[03:12] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes.. make SHELL=/bin/bash
[03:12] <jim> StPatrick: ok so you do have the build log... two issues: the build seems to require you to use bash
[03:12] <DistroJockey> Starnestommy: cheers :)
[03:13] <DistroJockey> !register | [Rocc]
[03:13] <ubotu> [Rocc]: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[03:13] <StPatrick> amenado, , jim, That gave me error 2 as well, making a pastebin
[03:13] <jim> perhaps if you do a make clean, get into bash and then run the make again it will work further
[03:13] <vocx> amenado, if you can you should talk to him in private message, because it is talking a lot of space in this channel. Just a suggestion.
[03:13] <StPatrick> amenado, jim http://pastebin.ca/973392
[03:13] <level09> sounds impressive, is it easy to install ebox on ubunto through ssh ?
[03:13] <[Rocc]> i know howto register on irc
[03:13] <[Rocc]> if thats what ur talking about
[03:13] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: yup
[03:13] <YeaSt> any idea guys?
[03:13] <DeVonne> anyone here know how to get a radeon 9000 working or can help me?
[03:14] <jim> StPatrick, run make clean then make
[03:14] <SilentSounD> How do i disable the DualPoint mouse?
[03:14] <StPatrick> jim,  So type "make clean"
[03:14] <jim> right
[03:14] <StPatrick> jim,  Then "make"
[03:14] <jim> then run the make with the bash thing
[03:15] <[Rocc]> ummm
[03:15] <StPatrick> jim, wait how do i run the make with the bash thing? What would I type in?
[03:15] <[Rocc]> Distro: you have yim or msn?
[03:15] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]:  nope
[03:15] <jim> you did it already
[03:15] <[Rocc]> any messenger?
[03:15] <jim> just do the same thing again
[03:15] <StPatrick> jim,  This :   make && sudo make install?
[03:15] <jim> actually hold up
[03:16] <StPatrick> jim,  K
[03:16] <jim> nono, don't try installing yet
[03:16] <StPatrick> jim,  Im waiting
[03:16] <Starnestommy> [Rocc]: you don't appear to be registered and identified, which is why it's failing
[03:16] <StPatrick> jim,  Also afk a sec
[03:16] <StPatrick> amenado,  Afk a sec
[03:16] <[Rocc]> Distro: Do you have any messenger?
[03:16] <brian> How can I make it so Ubuntu 7.10 automatically opens a program when it boots up?
[03:16] <DistroJockey> [Rocc]: I have Pidgin
[03:16] <[Rocc]> Distro: what is that?
[03:16] <astro76> [Rocc], DistroJockey you guys could just join an empty channel, like #rocc or whatever ;)
[03:16] <Johnny_5> just out of curiosity...what r the possibilities of my comp getting a virus from bittorrent while runnin' ubuntu
[03:16] <[Rocc]> good point
[03:17] <icanhasadmin> Johnny_5: basically nothing
[03:17] <[Rocc]> #helprocc
[03:17] <[Rocc]> <3
[03:17] <Integration> what is the name of the network manager that comes bundled with ubuntu?
[03:17] <jim> amenado, have him actually use bash rather than set the env var
[03:17] <DistroJockey> astro76: ahh, cheers :)
[03:17] <newbie> Dr_willis, thank you!
[03:17] <Johnny_5> that's what i thought
[03:17] <Johnny_5> thanx
[03:17] <troxor> Integration: networkmanager
[03:17] <mophead> brian: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+startup+program&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[03:17] <jim> like: bash <enter> make clean <enter> make <enter>
[03:18] <sixforty> In preferences, mouse is set full speed. How do I get the pointer to move faster?
[03:18] <soulreaper> any one have steam on linux?
[03:18] <jim> sixforty: put it in a car
[03:19] <sixforty> jim: it's been 3,278 miles this week. No joke. Next?
[03:19] <StPatrick> jim,  amenado  Im back
[03:19] <brian> mophead: Ah, sorry, thanks >.< Shoulda checked that first.
[03:19] <StPatrick> amenado, jim  Im back
[03:19] <jim> like: bash <enter> make clean <enter> make <enter>
[03:19] <mophead> brian: easy to forget
[03:20] <jim> amenado, have him actually use bash rather than set the env var
[03:21] <jim> anyway gotta go... luck.
[03:21] <sixforty> I get screen flicker when I log out, then in. Know of a way to fix that?
[03:21] <StPatrick> jim,  Thanks a ton.
[03:21] <StPatrick> amenado,  You there man?
[03:21] <StPatrick> jim,  Hlpe me first?
[03:21] <Dr_willis> sixforty,  may be the X server is restarting.. which is often a good thing. :)
[03:21] <jim> no can do. I have a jam session to play at.
[03:22] <mrkeishii> lol
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim,  Ok, but he's gone... and Im mid confusion, lol
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim,  What am i doing?
[03:22] <DeVonne> This may sound stupid, but I want to make sure my kernal is the right one, lol, which comes with gutsy?
[03:22] <sixforty> Ah. I wasn't clear. The flicker and stray dots remain until rebooted.
[03:22] <jim> learning!
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim,  What do i put on console nex...
[03:22] <bazhang> DeVonne: what does uname -r say
[03:22] <StPatrick> jim, damn you jim.
[03:23] <amenado> StPatrick-> i would re-install first. am not comfortable compiling that make ieee80211.. after you installed, we can work on the stock ipw3945 ..
[03:23] <DeVonne> 2.6.22-14-generic
[03:23] <vocx> DeVonne, there is no kernAl, there is a kernel
[03:23] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok, so, format and install pinux again?
[03:23] <StPatrick> linux even *
[03:23] <bazhang> DeVonne: then you are okay
[03:23] <DeVonne> vocx don't make fun of my spelling lol
[03:23] <DeVonne> ok thank god
[03:23] <amenado> StPatrick and if the stock ipw3945 would not work, then we can work on compiling a newer ieee80211 module
[03:24] <StPatrick> amenado,  So re-install linux?
[03:24] <refrax> I am running windows inside of ubuntu, which is running ubuntu
[03:24] <refrax> :D
[03:24] <DeVonne> now to figure out my next problem, now that that is ruled out, thanks
[03:24] <amenado> StPatrick-> yes..
[03:24] <bazhang> the 3945 does not work? is this straight ubuntu, or ubuntu-based? that is the best supported card out there
[03:25] <mitch__> hello ?
[03:25] <amenado> bazhang-> a step he was following removed the ieee80211 file..so we are stuck
[03:25] <bazhang> amenado: aha thanks
[03:25] <StPatrick> amenado,  Ok, doing so. See you here in a bit.
[03:25] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Good nows, Alienarena works wonderfully!
[03:25] <little_unix> [_gandhii_]: how to enable GET command?
[03:25] <amenado> StPatrick-> starwars will be over by then..
[03:25] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  bad news.. i SUCK at the game...
[03:25] <StPatrick> amenado,  LoL I might go get food before I come back.
[03:26] <mitch__> looking glass doesnt work can somebody help me out ?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> StPatrick,  :)
[03:26] <StPatrick> Dr_willis,  Maybe we'll practice together later, lol
[03:26] <amenado> StPatrick-> okay go ahead..
[03:26] <bazhang> mitch__: how installed
[03:26] <Dr_willis> mitch_,  you mean that sun java 3d desktop thing?
[03:26] <little_unix> [_gandhii_]: how to enable GET command?
[03:26] <mitch__> yes java 3d desktop
[03:26] <Dr_willis> mitch_,  i dont recall it ever working that well... :)
[03:26] <mitch__> hahah is there any way to get it working ?
[03:26] <vocx> little_unix, please explain yourself
[03:27] <little_unix> how to enable GET command?
[03:27] <mitch__> ill post there error
[03:27] <bazhang> mitch__: try the granular livecd; it is not ready for any desktop really
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mitch_,  ive only testedit on some live cd's and it was so.. awkward it was nasty.. it was big news for a few weeks.. then just sort of vanished.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mitch__,  I perfer the metisse (sp?) desktop as a compiz alternative for fancy stuff.
[03:27] <mitch__> oh so its not worth the trouble then ?
[03:27] <mophead> I'm having trouble finding azureus in the file manager.  In which folder would I find the program?
[03:28] <bazhang> mitch__: not unless you are a master programmer
[03:28] <Dr_willis> mitch__,  its not somthing you will use daily. No.. :)
[03:28] <Dr_willis> mophead,  you installed it?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> !azureus
[03:28] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:28] <vocx> mophead, you can install azureus from synaptic and it would appear in the applications menu
[03:28] <mophead> Dr_willis: yeah, I already use it.
[03:28] <rpj8> Pre-req: I'm NOT using gnome. How do I go about changing the speed at which my mouse wheel scrolls? Currently it FLIES at ridiculous rates and I need to slow it down. Is there something in the xorg file?
[03:28] <mitch__> ok haha ill try metisse
[03:28] <mitch__> and ya i installed it
[03:28] <Dr_willis> mophead,  try 'which  azureus' in the terminal
[03:28] <DeVonne> what is indirect rendering?
[03:28] <little_unix> in console exists (other linux) GET command to check php files and etc... in my system (pentium 3) this command dont exists
[03:29] <mophead> Dr_willis: SWEET! Thanks!
[03:29] <little_unix> i use it in cron jobs
[03:29] <little_unix> but its no exists in my console
[03:29] <Dr_willis> little_unix,  try the wget command
[03:29] <Dr_willis> I dont ever recall a 'get' command.
[03:30] <rpj8> Pre-req: I'm NOT using gnome. How do I go about changing the speed at which my mouse wheel scrolls? Currently it FLIES at ridiculous rates and I need to slow it down. Is there something in the xorg file?
[03:30] <little_unix> nono, its dont wget (download files), i need GET
[03:30] <nickrud> ftp get ?
[03:30] <little_unix> i need GET console command
[03:30] <Dr_willis> there no 'GET' in upper case for the shell that i hae ever seen.
[03:30] <barbedsaber> Hi all, when I oppen amarok, is says xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[03:30] <little_unix> no (wget, ftp get, mgt)
[03:30] <rpj8> little_unix: I'ts `get`
[03:30] <mitch__> metisse doesnt show up in synaptic am i spelling it wrong ?
[03:30] <barbedsaber> what do I do
[03:30] <whisperkiller> how would i go about switching from the integrated wireless chip on my laptop to my cardbus netopia?
[03:30] <little_unix> yeah
[03:30] <headrx> So, somehow i managed to f__k my dektop up.. when i open a program now, it no longer apears in the upper right hand 'task bar' .. pidgin for example, whenever i hit the X, it actually closes instead of just minimizing to the sys tray
[03:30] <little_unix> get
[03:30] <rpj8> little_unix: Just use get and then the http address
[03:30] <nickrud> little_unix maybe a little more detail about what you mean maybe?
[03:30] <felix> hello
[03:31] <little_unix> yeah
[03:31] <vocx> little_unix, I'm sorry, we are not understanding you.
[03:31] <bazhang> mitch__: do you know it is in the repos or not
[03:31] <Dr_willis> mitch__, ,  it may not be in there. I tested it out on a mandriva live  cd. :)
[03:31] <mitch__> no i dont think its in the repos
[03:31] <Boohbah> http get?
[03:31] <little_unix> ok
[03:31] <nickrud> php get?
[03:31] <bazhang> mitch__: then that is why it is not in synaptic
[03:31] <little_unix> i use GET in cron jobs
[03:31] <little_unix> to ckeck files (php files)
[03:31] <headrx> can anyone help me with that?
[03:31] <mitch__> ok thanks
[03:32] <bazhang> language headrx
[03:32] <little_unix> no (wget and ftp-get)
[03:32] <Dr_willis> little_unix,  what disrto/os was this under?
[03:32] <Boohbah> little_unix: what do you mean 'check'?
[03:32] <rpj8> Pre-req: I'm NOT using gnome. How do I go about changing the speed at which my mouse wheel scrolls? Currently it FLIES at ridiculous rates and I need to slow it down. Is there something in the xorg file?
[03:32] <little_unix> i use it in red hat
[03:32] <little_unix> :(
[03:32] <osxdude|laptop> YES
[03:32] <osxdude|laptop> YES!!!
[03:32] <osxdude|laptop> YES!!!!!!!! it's booting! yay! everyone dance!
[03:32] <vocx> little_unix, can you post an example of a cron job in a pastebin?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> it may bee some redhat alias then. or other add on. ask in #redhat about it..
[03:32] <mitch__> ugh what a repo urls for metisse ? there none on the website
[03:33] <mitch__> are*
[03:33] <Dr_willis> mitch__,  it may not be in ANY of the repos.
[03:33] <rootlinuxusr> brb
[03:33] <bazhang> mitch__: check the mandriva repos ;]
[03:33] <little_unix> what link?
[03:33] <little_unix> ;)
[03:33] <Dr_willis> http://swik.net/Metisse+Ubuntu
[03:33] <naby> alguien sabe komo arankar el window$ en ubuntu
[03:33] <barbedsaber> when I open amarok or try and play a song through it, it says xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers. how do I fisx it?
[03:34] <bazhang> naby portuguese?
[03:34] <astro76> !pt | naby
[03:34] <ubotu> naby: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[03:34] <DeVonne> do I need xgl for dekstop effects or compiz?
[03:34] <mitch__> no open gl
[03:34] <Dr_willis> DeVonne,  depends onyour video card.
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: NEITHER
[03:34] <DeVonne> radeon 9000 :\
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: never ever ever install xgl
[03:34] <barbedsaber> excuse me..
[03:34] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: it's entirely pointless in 99.9 percent of situations
[03:35] <DeVonne> I still want to play with it! :P
[03:35] <barbedsaber> I am having some problems with amarok
[03:35] <DeVonne> They wont enable, trying to figure out why
[03:35] <bazhang> DeVonne: ask what the people in #compiz-fusion have to say
[03:35] <icanhasadmin> DeVonne: #compiz-fusion can help you there
[03:35] <metbsd> does ubuntu run well on tablet pc?
[03:35] <level09> how do I move the content of a directory up one level ?
[03:35] <level09> will this work mv * ../ ?
[03:36] <DeVonne> ok thanks, I love the ubuntu community, so helpful
[03:36] <vocx> barbedsaber, just repeat the question, don't say "excuse me" or "I have a problem" it is distracting.
[03:36] <Dr_willis> level09,  dont use wildcards without knowing. :)
[03:36] <level09> Dr_willis: I'm not :) just asking
[03:36] <astro76> level09: that will miss .dot files
[03:36] <Dr_willis> level09,  rm ../dirname/*  perhaps
[03:36] <naby> sorry I speak neither Englishman nor Portuguese, where I can find a channel in Spanish
[03:36] <metbsd> does ubuntu run well on tablet pc?
[03:36] <bazhang> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:36] <level09> perhaps :D
[03:36] <barbedsaber> When I open amarok, it says xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers. how do I fix it?
[03:36] <metbsd> too bad i have to use windows xp!!
[03:36]  * level09 trying ...
[03:36] <naby> thnks
[03:36] <vocx> barbedsaber, I don't know the answer to your question but open up synaptic and install xine packages, maybe you are missing some.
[03:37] <barbedsaber> it worked befor I upgraded to hardy
[03:37]  * vocx doesn't speak Englishman either.
[03:37] <barbedsaber> are they oboulete, maybe?
[03:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 barbedsaber
[03:37] <headrx> how do i barbedsaber : install VLC, it will play anything you can throw at it
[03:37] <mophead> try #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions
[03:37] <barbedsaber> vld is awsome, but I like amarok
[03:38] <bazhang> hardy discussion in other channel barbedsaber
[03:38] <barbedsaber> ok, thanks
[03:38] <level09> so is there any command to move files and folder (sub folders )
[03:38] <headrx> i deleted everything off my system tray.. now when i X out pidgin, it doesnt go to the sys tray, how do i fix this
[03:39] <icesword> man mv
[03:39] <osxdude|laptop> ...
[03:39] <vocx> level09, "mv /folde /folder"   read the manual page "man mv"
[03:39] <level09> thanks
[03:39] <bazhang> headrx: the x closes apps
[03:39] <astro76> headrx: perhaps you removed the tray itself, try right click on panel, add to panel... and add the "notification area"
[03:39] <level09> vocx: can I use mv  /dir/* /newdir ?
[03:40] <headrx> thank you, that worked
[03:40] <vocx> level09, you need to create the newdir first. Also, read the manual page, it indicates how to move several files, and so.
[03:40] <level09> THANKS
[03:41] <towlie_> whats the name of the linux app that formats c++ code by indenting it
[03:41] <downstairs> is there a game like call of duty for ubuntu?
[03:41] <bazhang> towlie_: you want to add tabs?
[03:41] <vocx> towlie_, I think it's "indent" but is included in other utilities
[03:41] <downstairs> i have openarena with a mod, but that's not what i mean.
[03:41] <felix> how to remove the Lumaqq
[03:42] <bazhang> felix how did you install it
[03:42] <felix> I forgot it
[03:42] <bazhang> downstairs you might try with wine
[03:43] <bazhang> felix then no idea
[03:43] <towlie_> yes
[03:43] <bazhang> downstairs: check their appdb for cod4
[03:43] <felix> I don't kown where I install it
[03:43] <FnordPerfect> hello again.. I still haven't solved my problem with the root-partition set to read-only after booting..
[03:44] <bazhang> felix if you cannot give that kind of info we cannot give you good answers
[03:44] <metbsd> anyone use a tablet pc?
[03:44] <headrx> no
[03:44] <downstairs> bazhang:thanx
[03:44] <headrx> but i know someone that has gutsy installed on one
[03:44] <anton> hello everyone
[03:45] <anton> anyone?
[03:45] <metbsd> did it boot?
[03:45] <metbsd> on table?
[03:45] <vocx> felix, exactly as bazhang says
[03:45] <headrx> Yeh
[03:45] <downstairs> bazhang: any alternatives? my comp isn't that powerful. i have to run openarena on minimum graphics
[03:45] <anton> help pls...
[03:45] <metbsd> what's openarea?
[03:45] <headrx> anton : post your question
[03:45] <vocx> !ask | anton
[03:45] <ubotu> anton: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:45] <bazhang> downstairs: if I recall cod4 is fairly resource hungry, not sure how to overcome that
[03:45] <anton> hi compwiz18
[03:45] <Y-Town> anton: ask your questiom
[03:46] <bazhang> metbsd: a game
[03:46] <downstairs> metbsd:sorry i meant openarena
[03:46] <FnordPerfect> Is it possible that the partition is re-mounted r/o because some init script exits with a fail-status? Can I find out, which?
[03:46] <anton> thanks
[03:46] <anton> thanks ubotu
[03:46] <metbsd> game? on linux? hahaha
[03:46] <vocx> !bot | anton
[03:46] <ubotu> anton: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:46] <anton> ahmm im juz new
[03:46] <mophead> !offtopic
[03:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:46] <anton> i want to update my compiz fusion 5.0.2 to compiz fusion to 6.0
[03:47] <vocx> FnordPerfect, did you provide a read only option to the kernel at boot time?
[03:47] <crdlb> anton: what version of ubuntu?
[03:47] <crdlb> anton: also, you mean 0.5.2 and 0.6.0 :)
[03:47] <anton> 7.10
[03:47] <anton> yes indeed
[03:47] <anton> thanks
[03:47] <crdlb> anton: despite what the package versions imply, you _do_ have 0.6.0
[03:48] <anton> i have now a 0.5.2
[03:48] <FnordPerfect> vocx: yes, it's provided by grub. but this is normal, isn't it? it is supposed to be remounted r/w after fsck.
[03:48] <metbsd> does kde have comizfusion?
[03:48] <crdlb> anton: 0.6.0 was released shortly after ubuntu 7.10, so ubuntu included a development snapshot from just before the release
[03:48] <anton> and i think i dont have other extra plug ins
[03:48] <anton> like snow
[03:48] <bazhang> metbsd: it does when you install a couple of things
[03:48] <crdlb> anton: see the +git on the end of the version number
[03:48] <felix> the LumaQQ just can't   login and now I using the eva
[03:48] <vocx> What other symptoms are there. What does "mount" say?
[03:48] <crdlb> anton: snow is not officially supported in any version, but if you want it for gutsy, join #compiz-fusion
[03:48] <metbsd> felix: are you chinese?
[03:48] <felix> yes
[03:49] <vocx> FnordPerfect, ^
[03:49] <FnordPerfect> after logging in, I can remount it manually with -o remount,rw without any problems
[03:49] <anton> ok thank you very much for ur help crdlb
[03:49] <anton> it was greatly appreciated crdlb
[03:49] <metbsd> i use qq on windows. it's nice
[03:50] <metbsd> you don't get qq on linux
[03:50] <bazhang> offtopic
[03:50] <metbsd> because linux don't support qq
[03:50] <FnordPerfect> vocx: ^
[03:50] <felix> I kown
[03:51] <vocx> FnordPerfect, What does mount say? I only have (rw,error=remount-ro) as options
[03:51] <bazhang> eva works fine with qq
[03:52] <FnordPerfect> vocx: you mean, what's in /etc/fstab? I have rw,error=remount-ro' and additionally defaults' as an option.
[03:52] <allan_> hi,all
[03:53] <vocx> FnordPerfect, type "mount" in the terminal
[03:53] <osxdude|laptop> hmm
[03:53] <FnordPerfect> vocx: oh.. ok. (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:54] <osxdude|laptop> will someone tell me why my boot screen is at too high of a resolution for my monitor? how can I fix it?
[03:54] <vocx> FnordPerfect, well it says it is read/write? So what's the problem?
[03:54] <icanhasadmin> osxdude|laptop: change res in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:54] <xtknight> !fb | osxdude|laptop this is probably something to do with it?  if you mean grub screen?
[03:54] <ubotu> osxdude|laptop this is probably something to do with it?  if you mean grub screen?: Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[03:55] <FnordPerfect> vocx: it is read/write because I remounted it manually.
[03:55] <osxdude|laptop> nonono
[03:55] <downstairs> are there any call of duty linux alternatives?
[03:55] <Ashfire908> uh, my terminal is broken.
[03:55] <xtknight> downstairs, well many id software games work on linux.  ut2004 works on linux as well.  enemy territory quake wars, quake4...
[03:55] <bazhang> downstairs: that are not resource intensive?
[03:55] <downstairs> bazhang: yes please
[03:55] <vocx> FnordPerfect, oh. Well, check that after a reboot. Mmmm. How did you mount the root partition if you were using it? Are you using a Live CD?
[03:55] <bazhang> downstairs: doubtful
[03:56] <xtknight> dont think so
[03:56] <downstairs> xtnight: ut2004 what years is that set in?
[03:56] <michael__> i got alot of my windows games to work on ubuntu with no trouble and litle lag through wine
[03:56] <allan_> I'm write a plugin for audacious, but it has some problem
[03:56] <TheFearsomeFufu> Is there a package that lists any "orphaned" packages? For example libraries that I don't need, etc
[03:56] <downstairs> bazhang: i can play openarena fine.
[03:56] <xtknight> downstairs, no idea.  it's not a war game tho it's a futuristic game
[03:56] <downstairs> xtnight.
[03:56] <downstairs> thanks
[03:56] <downstairs> anyway
[03:56] <xtknight> ya
[03:56] <bazhang> !info deborphan
[03:56] <ubotu> deborphan (source: deborphan): Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.23 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 420 kB
[03:56] <FnordPerfect> vocx: No, I logged in at the terminal and remounted it with "mount -o remount,rw /"
[03:56] <osxdude|laptop> omg
[03:56] <xtknight> downstairs, enemy territory (not quake wars, but wolfenstein enemy territory) is based in 1942 i believe.  WW2
[03:57] <allan_> because used libglade in the plugin
[03:57] <xtknight> downstairs, it's objective based and team based...fireteams, etc
[03:57] <downstairs> xtnight: that is exactly what im looking for thankS!
[03:57] <bazhang> TheFearsomeFufu: see deborphan
[03:57] <xtknight> downstairs, but it stil uses pixel shaders i think and all that.  if that's what you mean by resource intensive :\
[03:57] <TheFearsomeFufu> bazhang: Thanks.
[03:57] <michael__> XTnight thats unrelated take it to *ubuntuofftopic
[03:57] <xtknight> ok i can meet you in #ubuntu-offtopic , downstairs
[03:58] <downstairs> k
[03:58] <vocx> FnordPerfect, does it give any errors on startup?
[03:58] <michael__> thank you
[03:58] <allan_> when it's running, the system tell me :undefined symbol: glade_xml_new
[03:58] <TheFearsomeFufu> Another question: Is it ok to remove the "ubuntu-desktop" package? I'm trying to remove some things I don't need, but one of them depends on the ubuntu-desktop package
[03:58] <osxdude|laptop> !fb
[03:58] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[03:58] <bazhang> TheFearsomeFufu: that is a metapackage; what else does it wish to remove
[03:59] <FnordPerfect> vocx: yes, there were plenty of errors, since I screwed it badly while downgraded from hardy back to gutsy. but i fixed most.
[03:59] <nickrud> TheFearsomeFufu yes, but release upgrades generally require that package be installled to complete
[03:59] <michael__> that question came up yesterday i believe that it is ok to remove the desktop package but ma not sure
[03:59] <axel> Hello! How to recover a wiki-entry which got lost while trying to save it?
[03:59] <TheFearsomeFufu> nickrud: Ah, ok. If it's needed for release upgrades, I'll keep it then
[03:59] <TheFearsomeFufu> Thanks
[03:59]  * nickrud cringes, downgrade
[03:59] <Ashfire908> i'm trying excute a file (with ./file) and i know it exists, and i know it's excutable, but bash keeps saying the file doesn't exist http://pastebin.com/d5de3518b
[03:59] <vocx> FnordPerfect, then don't ask here! man you have been seriously breaking apart your system by doing that? Don't you think it's important to mention that beforehand?!
[04:00] <bazhang> axel got lost? please clarify
[04:00] <DistroJockey> axel: google's cache maybe?
[04:00] <Flannel> Ashfire908: Does it have a proper shebang?
[04:01] <HugoEnder> Hello World
[04:01] <Ashfire908> Flannel, yes.
[04:01] <Monobi2> I don't have a working CDROM and my BIOS doesnt support booting from a USB stick. What am I to do to install ubuntu?
[04:01] <FnordPerfect> vocx: uhm, sorry... I mentioned it the last time I joined the channel.. also,I fixed most of it.
[04:01] <Ashfire908> Flannel, "#! /usr/bin/env python"
[04:02] <bazhang> Monobi2: what system is your computer running now
[04:02] <axel> bazhang: I typed quite a long article, but saving did not work. So I pressed the back-button. This did not work either.
[04:02] <Monobi2> bazhang: vista >_> , I want to dual boot.
[04:02] <Monobi2> bazhang: I'm on the system without a working CDROM.
[04:02] <axel> DistroJockey: Ist was not saved on a server. I wanted as the entry got lost.
[04:02] <vocx> FnordPerfect, well, big news for you. Hardy is beta now, so get the beta and reinstall. Otherwise try the alternate Gutsy CD and upgrade the packages from it. Those regarding installation scripts.
[04:03] <bazhang> Monobi2: and vista works on that older computer? you could try a net install, wubi, or a couple of other options
[04:03] <amenado> Ashfire908-> put that path in your PATH and execute the .py or cd to that dir then execute
[04:03] <Ashfire> Flannel, sorry
[04:03] <Monobi2> bazhang: the computer is only a year old.  By net install you mean via LAN ?
[04:04] <axel> Monobi2: You could also install it from an USB-stick.
[04:04] <DistroJockey> axel: ahh, bummer. Sorry, no further ideas.
[04:04] <mark[oz]> has anyone installed ubuntu on usb?
[04:04] <Monobi2> axel: 23:01 < Monobi2> I don't have a working CDROM and my BIOS doesnt support booting from a USB stick. What am I to do to install ubuntu?
[04:05] <Ashfire908> amenado, i'm in the directory
[04:05] <bazhang> Monobi2: what computer make and model please
[04:05] <Monobi2> mark[oz]: it SAYS it supports USB, but I tried to place the ubuntu CD into my external CD drive, and modify the BIOS, but it didnt work
[04:05] <amenado> Ashfire908-> then just  ./xxx.py
[04:05] <Monobi2> Er
[04:05] <Monobi2> axel: ^^
[04:05] <axel> Monobi2:net, disks.
[04:05] <Monobi2> bazhang: er, Gateway ?
[04:05] <bazhang> Monobi2: precise make and model please
[04:05] <Monobi2> MT6451
[04:06] <sparky_here> I just installed 8.04 trying to use desktop effects all is working but the cube when i set it to 2x2 virtual desktops it shows 4 on the taskbar but I can only access 2 any ideas???
[04:06] <FnordPerfect> vocx: well, ok then. thanks for helping. I'll just do that. I would have prefered to find and fix the error by myself, but by now I've wasted enough time with that. mine, and yours.
[04:06] <axel> bazhang: Any idea for the lost wiki-entry?
[04:06] <vocx> sparky_here, please don't ask questions about hardy here, until it's release has been made official.
[04:06] <xtknight> !Hardy
[04:06] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:07] <sparky_here> Sorry my bad
[04:07] <Ashfire908> amenado, nope http://pastebin.com/d15fa9e31
[04:07] <vocx> FnordPerfect, no problem.
[04:07] <HugoEnder> i am having problems logging on to root using su- to install something
[04:07] <HugoEnder> what are my options?
[04:07] <FnordPerfect> bye *
[04:07] <jim_beam> has anybody installed e17 in ubuntu 7.1
[04:07] <nickrud> HugoEnder   sudo <command>   or sudo -i   for a root shell
[04:07] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, in ubuntu you use sudo
[04:08] <HugoEnder> ooo
[04:08] <bazhang> Monobi2: that has a broadcom card in it?
[04:08] <HugoEnder> then what does su - do in ubuntu?
[04:08] <vocx> HugoEnder, don't use "su" use "sudo"
[04:08] <Monobi2> bazhang: er, yes
[04:08] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, same. but in ubuntu there is no root pass
[04:08] <bazhang> axel: did you try your firefox cache
[04:08] <amenado> Ashfire908-> i dont think  "." is in your $PATH
[04:08] <Monobi2> bazhang: s/broadcom card/wireless card/ ?
[04:08] <madagascar> Hello ! after upgrade to 8.04, MailScanner stopped working. Now i can't reinstall and can't deinstall due to inconsistent state
[04:08] <HugoEnder> so what is the highest permission in ubuntu ashfire?
[04:08] <bazhang> Monobi2: any friedns with a cd drive?
[04:08] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, root.
[04:08] <vocx> madagascar, , please don't ask questions about hardy here, until it's release has been made official.
[04:09]  * nickrud copies vocx's text replace
[04:09] <HugoEnder> Ashfire908, but there is no pass for root?
[04:09] <bazhang> madagascar: #ubuntu+1 please
[04:09] <Monobi2> bazhang: I have an external CD driver
[04:09] <bazhang> Monobi2: one that works?
[04:09] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, yes there is no password for root.
[04:09] <Monobi2> bazhang: yes, it is external
[04:09] <Monobi2> bazhang: just bought it tonight
[04:09] <bazhang> Monobi2: then problem solved
[04:09] <vocx> nickrud, seriously I felt like that was deja vu, I was expecting nickrud though
[04:10] <Monobi2> bazhang: how so? my BIOS doesnt see it :|
[04:10] <bazhang> Monobi2: that is what I use to install ubuntu on my eeepc
[04:10] <HugoEnder> Ashfire908, so what stops anyone from installing stuff on ur computer using root?
[04:10] <nickrud> vocx heh. found out I had one already, just forgot #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <Ashfire908> !sudo | HugoEnder
[04:10] <ubotu> HugoEnder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:10] <Ashfire908> HugoEnder, when a user account has no pass, you can't login via a password.
[04:10] <Monobi2> bazhang: well, you are going to have to walk me through it ;) . I modified my BIOS to boot from the various USB options and the Hard Drive last, but it didn't work.
[04:11] <bazhang> Monobi2: you may need to get vista drivers for it then; not sure about vista, might ask in ##windows first then come back
[04:11] <Monobi2> bazhang: vista drivers?
[04:11] <nickrud> HugoEnder and only the first, installation created user has sudo privs, unless you grant them by adding a user to the admin group
[04:11] <axel> bazhang: I tried my Konqueror history.
[04:11] <vocx> HugoEnder, basically only the users that are in the admin group can use sudo, others cannot.
[04:12] <bazhang> Monobi2: you are using vista right now, yes?
[04:12] <Monobi2> Yes
[04:12] <bazhang> Monobi2: and you have a problem with Vista recognizing an external cd drive, correct?
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: not vista
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: the BIOS
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: I have the driver software for the hard drive
[04:13] <Monobi2> bazhang: er, s/hard drive/external CD drive/
[04:13] <bazhang> Monobi2: once you get that solved (hardware/bios issue) we can help you with ubuntu on there; until that time it is not really an ubuntu issue
[04:14] <vocx> Monobi2, It should be recognized by the linux kernel, and if it is not, then it won't work since the windows drivers are not compatible with linux.
[04:14] <Monobi2> bazhang: okay. Well, that is my problem. I have used ubuntu on two other machines I have, so installing ubuntu itself isnt the problem :)
[04:14] <bazhang> Monobi2: which is why I suggested asking for help in ##windows and then coming back; we will still be here when you return
[04:14] <Kurban_Haydarov> hi
[04:14] <Monobi2> :)
[04:14] <HugoEnder> vocx, nickrud : then what stops something from just coming to my computer when i am away and typing sudo to install malicious software?
[04:14] <SilentSounD> how can i make backspace == back in firefox ?
[04:15] <nickrud> HugoEnder they need to know your user password
[04:15] <bazhang> axel: no luck in konqueror?
[04:15] <vocx> HugoEnder, well they need your password still.
[04:15] <HugoEnder> o oka
[04:15] <Kurban_Haydarov> hi
[04:16] <axel> bazhang: Not so far.
[04:16] <madagascar> hi again - how can i re-install or remove a package which "is in a very bad inconsistent state" ?
[04:16] <HugoEnder> thank you for your help guys
[04:16] <Kurban_Haydarov> I need some help guy about my friend's wireless problem
[04:16] <axel> Does anybody know how to access the cashe of Konqueror?
[04:16] <ty> Trying to open qparted and getting this error "Failed to execute child process "qtparted-root" (No such file or directory)"
[04:17] <sjovan> axel: i don't use KDE, but what do you mean by the cashe of konqueror?
[04:17] <nickrud> madagascar sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq <pkgname>
[04:17] <bazhang> axel: I know this wont help now, but what I generally do is type it in open office and auto save then cut and paste it to whatever I am writing online--that way the web wiki messups are alleviated a bit
[04:17] <madagascar> thanks nickrud, i'll try it
[04:17] <bazhang> madagascar: this is gutsy or hardy
[04:18] <madagascar> this is an ubuntu question
[04:18] <nickrud> madagascar mostly works, if it says reinstall required in the error message
[04:18] <bazhang> madagascar: if it is hardy then the other channel
[04:19] <nickrud> #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1 madagascar if that doesn't fix it
[04:19] <madagascar> i think the help i need is version non-specific
[04:19] <Ashfire908> amenado, path is not needed when i give it the path (./), but adding ./ to PATH does nothing
[04:19] <nickrud> madagascar I understand that, but the package you have problems with is hardy specific, it might very well be a known hardy issue
[04:20] <axel> bazhang: Thanks for the hint.
[04:20] <spreda> is there a 64 bit ubuntu channel?
[04:20] <Iz> how can update gnome?
[04:20] <luckylin> i have a silly noob question but here goes, i'm all out of CD-r's but i have 100 DVD-R's so will a DVD-R work for burning ubuntu (probably does sorry to ask)
[04:21] <bazhang> sorry to be of immediate help axel; I have had that happen and know how much it stinks
[04:21] <bazhang> err not
[04:21] <Starnestommy> spreda: this channel is for 32-bit and 64-bit
[04:21] <nickrud> Iz you would have to compile gnome to upgrade it in a release, the new version is released with each new ubuntu release
[04:21] <vocx> luckylin, if you have that many you only need to burn ONE to try out? man do you really need to ask a question like this one?
[04:21] <bazhang> luckylin: sure no problem
[04:21] <climatewarrior>  yes if you have a dvd burner you can do that
[04:21] <climatewarrior> there's even a dvd version of ubuntu
[04:22] <axel> sjovan: I don't mean the history of browsed URLs, but the "buffer" (Zwischenspeicher in German).
[04:22] <amenado> Ashfire908-> what does ./rtvm2.py supposed to do?
[04:22] <luckylin> thanks (yes i have a dvd/cd burner)
[04:22] <bazhang> luckylin: then you are good to go
[04:22] <Iz> i think i will need this cause the ubuntu i just installed was downloaded a time ago.. i got ubuntu 7.04 the feisty fawn and gnome v. 2.18
[04:22] <ty> Trying to open qparted and getting this error "Failed to execute child process "qtparted-root" (No such file or directory)"
[04:23] <Iz> arent there new versions so far?
[04:23] <luckylin> ok one more retarded question
[04:23] <luckylin> can you put more then one ISO on a dvd and have like a dual boot iso
[04:23] <luckylin> like ubuntu and suse
[04:23] <vocx> Iz, to get the latest you need a new Ubuntu version. After that, there are no updates, unless there is a security patch.
[04:24] <bazhang> luckylin: no; it is an image so it leaves no free space--not a data disk
[04:24] <luckylin> oh.just thought i'de ask
[04:24] <climatewarrior> luckylin, as far as I know, no you cant do that
[04:24] <Iz> that means i have to downlaod the new ubuntu version burn in and reinstall ? or can i somehow upgrade ubuntu?
[04:24] <nickrud> Iz 2.20 came with 7.10, and 2.22 will come with 8.04
[04:24] <Dr_willis> luckylin,  ive seen some live-cd-dvds that do that.. but they dont do it quite that way
[04:24] <vocx> luckylin, That would be complicated. Probably would be possible to merge the two distros so they would still be one ISO, but sounds very strange indeed.
[04:24] <luckylin> yeah i noticed all iso's say zero free space even though they aren't as big as CD-R's
[04:24] <bazhang> lz that is up to you; you can net upgrade or do a fresh install
[04:25] <DistroJockey> luckylin: is possible, but not a question for here. You would need to edit the iso I assume
[04:25] <Iz> i prefer net upgrade :) how is this possible?
[04:25] <StPatrick> amenado,  I'm back. Fresh install.
[04:25] <bazhang> lz from feisty to gutsy?
[04:25] <vocx> Iz, yes, you can upgrade ubuntu from the net. But you have to upgrade the entire distro, not just gnome, so it may need to download 1 GB.
[04:26] <nickrud> !upgrade | Iz
[04:26] <ubotu> Iz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:26] <bazhang> lz also dont do this on dialup ;]
[04:26] <amenado> StPatrick-> paste your ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n
[04:27] <nickrud> bazhang you are silly ;)
[04:27] <StPatrick> amenado,  is that one solid command?
[04:27] <vocx> amenado, since I feel it's gonna take a while, I suggest you two move to private messages or a private channel.
[04:28] <StPatrick> amenado,  Im in #HelpStPat
[04:29] <Iz> thx guys :) i just upgrating:)
[04:29] <sjovan> axel: no sorry mate, i can't help you.
[04:30] <M4rotku> can i upgrade to the hardy beta without install all of the other updates for gusty?
[04:30] <icesword> M4rotku, unless you uninstall them
[04:30] <nickrud> M4rotku not advised, you should be totally up to date in gutsy before upgrading to hardy
[04:31] <M4rotku> nickrud: the reason i want to is because an update package that i installed in the past wiped out my wireless card configs and i had to reinstall everything, that's why i have to upgrade again in the first place
[04:32] <nickrud> M4rotku you could try, but the results are undefined
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> M4rotku: Hardy questions should go in #ubuntu+1 btw - they'll be able to give you more detail.
[04:32] <Legendario> hi. can anyone give me some help with the gfxboot? I tried to install it, but my boot doesn't show anything?
[04:32] <M4rotku> tonyyarusso, thanks, i'll try that channel
[04:34] <crumbym> Just checking things out..
[04:34] <pierrelux> I'm struggling to get ubuntu running on my macbook pro v4.1 ... first tried with 7.10 with the livedcd then the alternate but its failed to install grub or lilo. Now with hardy, black screen... nothings appening
[04:35] <crumbym> nikki try this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[04:35] <nikki8965> My linux keeps rebooting.  Do I need to reinstall?  It's only on 5 gigs of drive space, because I was stupid, and didn't size my partitions when installing
[04:36] <emma> maybe someone could help you with gparted
[04:37] <jim> is parted the thing used by the installer to do partitioning?
[04:37] <nikki8965> I tried to use it, but it won't let me resize my windows partition
[04:37] <pierrelux> crumbym: if this was for me... obviously, I checked it first
[04:37] <jim> nikki8965: ntfs?\
[04:37] <nikki8965> yeah
[04:37] <jim> that's harder
[04:38] <crumbym> nikki have you tried this one: http://kahvipapu.com/blog/2007/12/29/liberating-macbook-pro/
[04:38] <bumpin4> hi all
[04:38] <jim> it'd be easier to find a spare hd
[04:38] <nikki8965> Ok.  I have an external HD that I need to dig out of a box
[04:39] <crumbym> nikki I have Linux installed on my MacBook Pro.. There were some settings on that last hotlink that will help yoj.
[04:39] <jim> nikki8965: does it have stuff you need?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> pierrelux, Have you seen this guide ( for V3 ) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro/SantaRosa ?
[04:39] <jim> or can you wipe it with no worries?
[04:39] <nikki8965> It has stuff I need
[04:39] <earl_> hey guys. i'm wondering if there is any sort of sega genesis (or ideally, sega cd) emulator available for ubuntu.
[04:39] <jim> hmm.
[04:40] <pierrelux> Jordan_U: thanks but I already went over it... it seems now that I can boot in safe graphic mode with the 8.04 installer
[04:40] <jim> nikki8965: how many partitions and what kind?
[04:40] <Jordan_U> pierrelux, Then you get an error when installing Grub?
[04:40] <jim> does ubuntu use lvm by default?
[04:40] <nikki8965> just one partition that I can think of.  It's something I got from walmart
[04:41] <Jordan_U> jim, No
[04:41] <crumbym> jim No
[04:41] <crumbym> Jim it uses Ext3
[04:41] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451647 earl_
[04:41] <izinucs> jim, you only get lvm on the alternate cd
[04:41] <emma> earl_,  -- http://www.squish.net/generator/description.html
[04:42] <izinucs> crumbym, lvm is not a file system type.. it's a partitioning type of thing
[04:42] <bazhang> pierrelux: hardy? that should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[04:42] <jim> I'm understanding that ubuntu is changing how it's related to debian in terms of its content... are they also changing how they obtain software (snapshot of debian sid)?
[04:42] <earl_> thanks!
[04:42] <StPatrick> jim,  Wanna have a go at my wireless now?
[04:42] <izinucs> nikki8965, did you get the $200 gOS?
[04:42] <crumbym> iz - I know, I was letting him know what the default partion format was
[04:43] <crumbym> LVM is Logical Volume
[04:43] <sjovan> hey, any of you know of a dc++ clone for linux? maby something that is in the rep?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> jim, What do you mean by "ubuntu is changing how it's related to debian in terms of its content" ?
[04:43] <pierrelux> bazhang: this is a general question... nothing specific about hardy. I first wanted to use the stable 7.10
[04:43] <jim> let me see if I can remember closer... I heard that ubuntu had different design values than debian...
[04:43] <bazhang> pierrelux: what system are you running now?
[04:44] <jim> any truth to that? have those values changed recently?
[04:44] <nikki8965> no.  I paid like $80 for it.  It has 'sea' in the name of it.  I'm trying to google it
[04:44] <jim> seagate?
[04:44] <level09> how can I detect the full path to some directory ?
[04:44] <nikki8965> yep.  seagate
[04:44] <jim> cd there, pwd
[04:44] <pierrelux> bazhang: not running ubuntu yet... I'm still trying to install ubuntu completely
[04:44] <level09> pwd ?
[04:44] <crumbym> pwd
[04:45] <level09> ok thanks :)
[04:45] <jim> man pwd for details
[04:45] <bazhang> pierrelux: what issues are you having installing gutsy
[04:45] <earl_> this generator... won't emulate segacd, will it?
[04:45] <pierrelux> bazhang: it failed to install grub or lilo
[04:45] <izinucs> nikki8965, a seagate computer?  they make harddrives.. is it a laptop or desktop?
[04:45] <level09> great :)
[04:45] <crumbym> level09 - you might like whereis as well
[04:45] <jim> pwd gives you the fully qualified path name to the dir you're in
[04:45] <level09> i'm actually staring to like linux :D
[04:45] <level09> that's what I want, I'm installing some complicated crm
[04:45] <nikki8965> It's an external harddrive.  It hooks up to a computer using a usb cord
[04:45] <Jordan_U> jim, Not that I have heard, the main design differences are that Ubuntu limits the architectures it supports and focuses on the Desktop, also they are more lenient with "non-free" software ( they include Firefox by default still instead of iceweasel and allow easy installation of proprietary drivers )
[04:46] <jim> stop staring! it's embarrisin!
[04:46] <crumbym> Anyone have suggestions on a good screen capture besides gtk-recordmydesktop?
[04:46] <bazhang> pierrelux: this was from the livecd or what? ubuntu or ubuntu-based; what errors are you getting please be precise
[04:46] <nikki8965> But, I could partitionit, and install ubuntu?
[04:46] <jim> StPatrick: maybe after awhile
[04:46] <jim> oh, oops
[04:47] <jim> nikki8965: you -could-
[04:47] <izinucs> nikki8965, yes..  however installing on an external HD requires some finesse. there are how to's on ubuntuforums.org and elsewhere on the web..
[04:47] <level09> what does sudo command actually do ?
[04:47] <pierrelux> bazhang: I was unable to use the livecd (staled with low-graphics mode) so I tried with the alternate (64 bits)
[04:47] <jim> but you'd lose the drive unless you back it up
[04:47] <izinucs> nikki8965, why not just install in on your desktop HD?
[04:47] <jim> izinucs: how would he resize an ntfs
[04:47] <earl_> level09: some linux distributions make you log in as "root", meaning the computer administrator, to have more permission to do stuff
[04:47] <bazhang> pierrelux: if you give precise info error we can troubleshoot, otherwise...
[04:48] <earl_> level09: sudo'ing something gives you that level of access temporarily, and asks for your password
[04:48] <nikki8965> I don't have a destop
[04:48] <Jordan_U> bazhang, Try choosing to have the installer *not* install Grub ( so the install does not fail ) then install it manually yourself ( this is what I had to do with my macbook pro back before Grub support for Apples BIOS emulation was as good )
[04:48] <crumbym> level09 - you can also use su
[04:48] <pierrelux> bazhang: no special messages except a red screen with a popup saying it failed to install grub... then the same with lilo (I did not try to install on MBR to mess with refit)
[04:48] <nikki8965> just a laptop
[04:48] <level09> earl_: thanks ! very helpful
[04:48] <jim> you should be able to (build and) install su and/or sudo on any linux dist... no one's forcing anything
[04:48] <level09> so no need for sudo if i'm a root user
[04:48] <izinucs> jim, on install you'll be able to resize
[04:48] <earl_> level09: don't be a root user
[04:48] <level09> why ?
[04:48] <earl_> level09: do you leave your doors open?
[04:49] <crumbym> level09 = ROOT BAD!
[04:49] <earl_> it's easier to get in and out of your house that way, so it seems like a good idea, right?
[04:49] <jim> level09: that is a long story with some points of charge associated
[04:49] <jim> ever run dos?
[04:49] <level09> sure, but how is that ? I'm using a secure private key
[04:49] <earl_> thing is, jack the ripper also gets into your house just as easily. so it's not.
[04:49] <izinucs> nikki8965, how does the live cd run on it.?  wireless work?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> level09, But if your web browser is compromised it can do whatever it wants to your system
[04:50] <cjzjm100> Are the softwares of the LTS release  in the repo  in-sync with the the other release(not the LTS release)?
[04:50] <bazhang> level09: irc on root? hahaha
[04:50] <level09> I'm on putty client
[04:50] <nickrud> cjzjm100 no, they are substantially older, except for security fixes and a few backports
[04:50] <Jordan_U> level09, Doesn't matter what authentication you use to get root privileges, if you are running applications unnecessarily as root you are at risk.
[04:50] <level09> how to disable root login ?
[04:50] <izinucs> nickrud, unless he's talking about hardy
[04:51] <level09> and how do I get back if I disabled it :D
[04:51] <jim> level09: one thing, if you're not too familiar with the reasons for that, conventional wisdom suggests it's a bad idea...
[04:51] <nickrud> izinucs true, but context leads me to think of dapper
[04:51] <bazhang> level09: uh oh
[04:52] <jim> level09: also not good idea
[04:52] <TehMwak> anyone run 7.10 and have a X2300?
[04:52] <level09> jim: what ?
[04:52] <whisperkiller> how do i get the chipset of my cardbus wireless card?
[04:52] <earl_> level09: basically, if you don't need to be root to do something, which is almost always the case unless it's something that could potentially damage your computer, don't be root
[04:52] <izinucs> whisperkiller, lspci in terminal I think
[04:53] <bazhang> usb whisperkiller? lsusb
[04:53] <jim> level09: it's not a good idea to disable the root acct, you'll need it to fix things (for one)
[04:53] <bazhang> whisperkiller: pci is lspci
[04:53] <whisperkiller> cardbus
[04:53] <level09> okay I'm convinced :D , what steps should I do now ?
[04:53] <level09> just switch to normal user ?
[04:53] <bazhang> level09: check for rootkits
[04:53] <jim> level09: let me just ask this before we get further... do you have stuff you want to keep on the machine you're being root on?
[04:53] <level09> I used a normal user , but I kept getting permission denied errors
[04:54] <Jordan_U> level09, That's where you use sudo
[04:54] <level09> jim: i dont know, I'm running a lamp server
[04:54] <jim> stated another way... what if the hd of that machine were wiped? would that be a disaster?
[04:54] <nikki8965> wireless works, and the live cd works
[04:54] <zero> hi, when i try to install C&C in cedega, it says i need administrator rights to install, im the ONLY user, how can i fix this?
[04:55] <level09> sure
[04:55] <jim> are you just fooling around with lamp? or is it a production box?
[04:55] <bazhang> zero sudo
[04:55] <izinucs> nikki8965, then you could put it directy on the HD if you want
[04:55] <level09> actually its a production box :D
[04:55] <nickrud> !sudo | zero (this describes getting the privs you need)
[04:55] <ubotu> zero (this describes getting the privs you need): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:55] <zero> bazhang, how do i run sude in cedega?
[04:55] <zero> *sudo
[04:55] <nikki8965> I'll try that... thanks :)
[04:56] <cjzjm100> Does the server release have all functions of the desktop release?
[04:56] <nickrud> cjzjm100 no gui on the server, otherwise same base
[04:56] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, run sudo cedega - should clear things up
[04:56] <level09> okay then , I'll switch to my other user
[04:56] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, thanks
[04:56] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, np :]
[04:56] <Mighty_Penguin> does mplayer only play videos if xorg is installed?
[04:56] <Mighty_Penguin> in cli mode
[04:57] <bazhang> Mighty_Penguin: you want to watch movies in the shell?
[04:57] <level09> btw, wheres that file where I can enter command aliases ?
[04:57] <Mighty_Penguin> bazhang:  yes
[04:57] <bazhang> Mighty_Penguin: how?
[04:57] <Mighty_Penguin> framebuffer
[04:57] <Mighty_Penguin> the same way i can view images in cli mode
[04:58] <bazhang> does framebuffer allow one to play games as well?
[04:58] <Mighty_Penguin> zgv works great for images, but i havent found any way to watch videos, i've heard mplayer does but not sure how
[04:59] <TehMwak> How to fix discolouration with a radeon x2300 on Gutsy???
[04:59] <Mighty_Penguin> bazhang: that i dont know
[04:59] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, same problem, sudo cedega gave me the same issue
[04:59] <level09> is there any editor that supports syntax highlighting ?
[04:59] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, ive checked out all the forums, the game is supported under ubuntu
[04:59] <vadillo> level09: vim, gedit
[04:59] <Starnestommy> level09: vim and gvim do, and I think gedit and emacs also do
[05:00] <luciddream> hi, i'm trying to setup an svn server using the standalone svnserve daemon.  I think I may be misunderstanding how permissions work because I get permission denied errors even though I think I've assigned rw permissions to the svn user that the svn daemon runs as: http://pastie.caboo.se/175956  can someone take a look and tell me if i'm doing something dumb?
[05:00] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, if you run it from the terminal, do you get any other output from the terminal other than a permission problem? ie - maybe the file itself needs permissions changed?
[05:00] <level09> should I install them , or are they already in core ?
[05:00] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, gedit as well as abiword do, there are others for specific languages as well
[05:00] <Starnestommy> level09: you might need to install gvim or vim-full if you're using vim.  Gedit is already installed
[05:00] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, vim and gedit are in the base
[05:00] <TehMwak> gutsy - radeon discolouration problems. How does on fix them?
[05:00] <level09> great thanks :)
[05:01] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/gddb.py:24: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module gddb_parser: This Python has API version 1013, module gddb_parser has version 1012.
[05:01] <zero>   import gddb_parser
[05:01] <zero> Traceback (most recent call last):
[05:01] <zero>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2750, in <module>
[05:01] <zero>     gtk.main()
[05:01] <bazhang> TehMwak: using compiz?
[05:01] <FloodBot2> zero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <zero> KeyboardInterrupt
[05:01] <jim> emacs uses a sortof weird system to display hiliting
[05:01] <TehMwak> Compiz wont start. but videos and pics are all discoloured. on all mediaplayers
[05:01] <bazhang> how were the drivers installed TehMwak
[05:02] <TehMwak> restricted drivers menu thing
[05:02] <jim> but it uses a very versatile and flexible data structure to store the total of the hiliting and indents for the language
[05:03] <zero> TheOneAndOnly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62281/
[05:04] <TheOneAndOnly> zero, http://www.cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=49709&sid=6684411e3ee5fc2a1306fbd4202aff99 - seems a lot of people have had this issue, idk if there is a fix posted in that forum though
[05:04] <TehMwak> bazhang: was done useing the restricted drivers menu.
[05:04] <SegFault[AX]> sorry I haven't got a GUI right now, can anyone tell me the channel for nmap?
[05:04] <DeVonne> where is the cdrom drive located?
[05:04] <jim> georgia
[05:05] <SegFault[AX]> DeVonne: /dev/cdrom
[05:05] <jim> oh -that- cdrom!
[05:05] <SegFault[AX]> DeVonne: any mounted cds will go to /media/cdrom
[05:05] <jim> sorry :)
[05:05] <bazhang> TehMwak: does the restricted driver support that ati card?
[05:05] <SegFault[AX]> well, pretty sure
[05:05] <DeVonne> I put in a game disc and neither one shows anything
[05:05] <TehMwak> bazhang : yes it does.
[05:05] <izinucs> SegFault[AX], irc.thelinuxshow.com #nmap
[05:06] <jim> so is it mounted? (look at output of mount)
[05:06] <TehMwak> bazhang :it says it does anyway?
[05:06] <SegFault[AX]> izinucs: thanks, damn i thought it was on freenode
[05:06] <TheOneAndOnly> TehMwak, enable the proposed updates, and do a system upgrade, i had that issue and that's how i fixed it
[05:06] <DeVonne> actually /dev/cdrom/ don't exist
[05:06] <SegFault[AX]> DeVonne: /dev/cdrom0 then
[05:06] <TehMwak> theoneandonly : thanks
[05:06] <TheOneAndOnly> TehMwak, np :]
[05:06] <DeVonne> there is no cdroms in dev
[05:07] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, check /media or /mnt
[05:07] <DeVonne> there is cdrom and cdrom0 in media but the cd contents are not showing
[05:08] <michael__> ..
[05:08] <StPatrick> Ok, Ubuntu room. This is it.  I am ready to give up on linux. Unless someone has some ground breaking idea for my wifi. It's been ... fun...  i guess..
[05:08] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, that means your cd is not automounting...
[05:08] <DeVonne> how do I fix this?
[05:08] <michael__> stpatrick whats up
[05:08] <TheOneAndOnly> StPatrick, what's happening w. your wifi?
[05:08] <vadillo> StPatrick : have you tried Ndiswrapper
[05:08] <vadillo> ?¡
[05:08] <StPatrick> vadillo, 7 or 8 times now.
[05:08] <[Rocc]> Im having the same prob Patrick...
[05:08] <icanhasadmin> StPatrick: what card?
[05:08] <michael__> stpatrick: no ndiswrapper what chipset is your wifi card
[05:09] <bazhang> StPatrick: how long have you been at this? two weeks or less than that
[05:09] <StPatrick> Wifi card is a Realtek RTL8187b
[05:09] <StPatrick> bazhang,  Today was Day 9, at at least 7 hours a day,.
[05:09] <DeVonne> how do I make my cd's auto mount?
[05:09] <vadillo> DeVonne: edit the fstab
[05:10] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, is it a cd drive or a dvd/cd drive?
[05:10] <DeVonne> dvd/cd
[05:10] <michael__> rocc: what chpset is your card
[05:10] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, check /dev for dvd
[05:10] <michael__> Stpaterick: do you have the driver for your card?
[05:10] <DeVonne> it is not in there
[05:11] <Bax_> ubuntu fiesty: how do I find a file a just downloaded and installed through Synaptic?
[05:11] <Bax_> *I
[05:11] <Mashandar> it doesn't look like there's a linux driver for RTL8187B yet
[05:11] <bazhang> Bax_: what file
[05:11] <Mashandar> there's a windows and mac driver...no linux driver
[05:11] <Bax_> bazhang: bittornado
[05:11] <StPatrick> For all those interested in trying to keep me in Linux, Here's a heads up on what's happened.  Toshiba A205-S5800. Realtek RTL8187b Wifi Card. Works fine in Vista. Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, Suse, all see card, but can't get it to work in them, Ubuntu ( currently running ) Doesnt even see card.
[05:11] <StPatrick> I have tried :
[05:12] <vadillo> StPatrick: check this one http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/118266-realtek-rtl8187b-help.html
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  'which bittorrnado' or whatever the command is to run it
[05:12] <michael__> Stpatrick: you have to help me help you buddy do you have the windows driver on hand?
[05:12] <StPatrick> ndiswrapper with about 30 different drivers, compiling drivers, using hacked drivers,  ^ That link, Several other links, 10 - 15 different walk-throughs.
[05:12] <StPatrick> michael__,  I do not., I just finished formatting again
[05:12] <Bax_> Dr_willis: I can literally type that in the terminal?
[05:12] <bazhang> Bax_: bittornado is in the ubuntu repos?
[05:12] <TehMwak> ... stpatrick : get a cheep supported wifi card. Problem solved!
[05:12] <StPatrick> TehMwak,  That is nto an option.
[05:12] <jim> StPatrick: I'm more interested in having you choose what you want to run. If you're not willing to do that, you're not committing, and I expect more miracle requests from you as a result
[05:13] <michael__> Stpatrick i went through the same thing i have a card that uses the bcm43xx and unsupported driver
[05:13] <bazhang> !info bittornado
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  bash basics.. the which command shows the full path to the command you are running/asking about.
[05:13] <ubotu> bittornado (source: bittornado): bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.18-4 (gutsy), package size 155 kB, installed size 876 kB
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  try 'which which' :)
[05:13] <StPatrick> jim,  I prefer Mandriva.
[05:13] <jim> use that :)
[05:13] <StPatrick> jim,   Cant get any support
[05:13] <michael__> Stpatrick:whats the name of the driver your card uses?
[05:13] <SegFault[AX]> izinucs: irssi says it cant' connect to irc.thelinuxshow.org on 6667,  is it on a different port?
[05:13] <StPatrick> michael__,  I have no idea. Drivers have names?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  now if you want to know where in the menus that icon went.. no idea on that.
[05:13] <Shpook> Hello everyone, quick question: How do I get the Home Folder onto the desktop?
[05:13] <Bax_> Dr_willis: but I don't know what the command is for bittornado, I just know that it was the name of the program I downloaded and installed through synaptic
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  The difference between you going through it, and me, is that I am not a computer guy.l
[05:14] <vadillo> StPatrick: also this one--> http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b/
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  I do not know much about computers, at all.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  try 'bittornado' ? thats the most logical command for it.
[05:14] <StPatrick> vadillo,  Yea, that one's fun...
[05:14] <michael__> Stpatrick: yes like the name of mine is bcmwl5.sys (im not either i came into this not knowing anything) so im gonna help you out
[05:14] <Shpook> Oops, on KDE I mean.
[05:14] <SegFault[AX]> Shpook: ln -s $HOME $HOME/Desktop/Home
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  Ok :) I'm glad to hear it.
[05:14] <michael__> Stpatrick: so we have to find the driver for your card eh
[05:14] <StPatrick> michael__,  Care to meet m e in a different channel?
[05:14] <vadillo> StPatrick what did you mean with fun?
[05:14] <StPatrick> say.. #HelpStPat?
[05:15] <michael__> Stpatrick: sure just lemme know the name buddy
[05:15] <Bax_> Dr_willis: I did, with just the name, with ./, and with "which".  Still got nothing
[05:15] <StPatrick> vadillo,  I mean i did it.
[05:15] <hansin> Should I be using 'aptitude' vs. 'apt-get'?  I am trying to get in the habit of switching to it.  I keep seeing 'aptitude' is the way to go, but maybe this is a personal preference thing?  I like to install Ubuntu as the Minimal CLI install from the alternative CD.  Does anyone know if the installer uses 'aptitude' or 'apt-get', or is it lower level than that (dpkg?)?  Thanks.
[05:15] <Dmole> Bax_: bittornado works but try transmition (gui) or rtorrent (cli)
[05:15] <level09> is it bad also to use sftp as a root ?
[05:15] <Shpook> SegFault[AX]: Thank, that worked perfect.
[05:15] <jim> maybe
[05:15] <Bax_> Dmole: I
[05:15] <Shpook> Thanks*
[05:16] <vadillo> StPatrick: also the other one link
[05:16] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, only if you don't care about your system's security :p
[05:16] <SegFault[AX]> Shpook: no problem
[05:16] <level09> TheOneAndOnly: I cant upload files with a regular user, theres no permissions
[05:16] <Bax_> Dmole: I'm just trying to figure out how to find and access programs I just downloaded through synaptic, like bittorando
[05:16] <Dr_willis> !find bittornado
[05:16] <ubotu> Found: bittornado, bittornado-gui
[05:16] <Hellow> Hello
[05:16] <Alan_M> hansin, it has both on it.....and yes its personal preference honestly.
[05:16] <level09> I'm using filezilla
[05:16] <ifireball> Bax_: you probably want "btdownloadgui"
[05:17] <ifireball> Bax_: type bt<tab> to see other commands installed by bittornado
[05:17] <Dmole> Bax_: that will be in the menu under internet
[05:17] <michael__> Stpatrick: the way i did mine was quite simple actually all we have to do is find something to extract the firmware from your driver and well put it in the correct spots reboot and bam youl be good
[05:17] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, hm, you should go in and set the file permissions as root, and then use sftp as a regular user
[05:17] <DeVonne> I still can't find or see my dvd/cd drive
[05:17] <Dmole> Bax_: and like ifireball said ta is your frend
[05:17] <amirman84> what language do people use to write programs and GUIs for ubuntu? i may want to take a class on it
[05:17] <level09> TheOneAndOnly: okay thnx
[05:17] <ifireball> Bax_: to see all the files installed by a package "dpkg -L bittornado"
[05:17] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, do you know what type of hardware you cd/dvd drive is?
[05:18] <amirman84> all i know is BASIC :)
[05:18] <DeVonne> it came with the emachine so I do not know
[05:18] <Alan_M> amirman84: there are multiple languages that help out in that area :)
[05:18] <ifireball> Bax_: (though the list of file may not provide much info as to how to use it)
[05:18] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, C#, and C++, Python, and Perl...
[05:18] <Starnestommy> amirman84: there are several languages that can do that. C, C++, Java, Perl, Python, Ruby, PHP, and a lot of others
[05:18] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, we use them all
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  aparanty its 'bt<SOMTHING>'
[05:18] <TheOneAndOnly> Starnestommy, PHP and Ruby can be used, but they are mostly for web development.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Bax_,  /usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittornado
[05:19] <Bax_> ifireball: so btdownloadgui is a general command to fetch programs I just downloaded?
[05:19] <StPatrick> michael__,  Sounds good to me man. Come to #HelpStPat?
[05:19] <thundr2> TheOneAndOnly: Is there a language that is used the most commonly?
[05:19] <amirman84> ok, i was just wondering because i see that there's a niche to be filled most specifically apps for young kids
[05:19] <hansin> Alan_M: Thanks.  I know the minimal CLI install include both, but do you have any idea what the text-based installer uses?  Just curious.  Like I said, maybe it is lower level than either 'apt-get' or 'aptitude'??
[05:19] <DeVonne> ok I have found it
[05:19] <ifireball> Bax_: no that's the command installed by the bittornado package
[05:19] <DeVonne> http://www.impactcomputers.com/dvem100686rw.html
[05:19] <TheOneAndOnly> thundr2, the kernel is in C#, but C++ is used commonly for apps. Python for gui apps is very common :]
[05:19] <amirman84> my son is 2 1/2 and i was looking for some packages that could help him learn to use the mouse and stuff all i found was kletters and tuxpaint
[05:19] <DeVonne> this is the hardware
[05:20] <michael__> stpatrick: ok im in there
[05:20] <thundr2> TheOneAndOnly: Thanks :)
[05:20] <amirman84> what language would be best for simple apps like that?
[05:20] <StPatrick> michael__,  Uhh  How? So am i... lol
[05:20] <TheOneAndOnly> thundr2, np :]
[05:20] <Alan_M> hansin, no idea exactly what it uses, most probably apt-get because thats what we tell users in here to use, from what ive seen its the more common one in here :D
[05:20] <Dr_willis> amirman84,  python is handy.
[05:20] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: , http://www.impactcomputers.com/dvem100686rw.html
[05:20] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, i'd go with python
[05:20] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, i saw the link, ty :] i'm reading it now
[05:20] <Alan_M> python :D
[05:20] <DeVonne> ok thanks
[05:21] <amirman84> awesome i hope my college has a class on it
[05:21] <Alan_M> amirman84, and if not there are PLENTY of guides online for it.
[05:21] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, most colleges, even community, have some class for Python, but it will include other langs as well
[05:21] <level09> making a directory writable by a webserver, does this mean 755 or 777?
[05:21] <steven__> I am using the Darklooks theme for Gnome and now Firefox is displaying Text Boxes with dark colored background. Does anyone know how to change this?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> level09,  both are a little overkill.
[05:22] <level09> what do u suggest :) ?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> level09,  the dir  could just be owned by the webserver, and you wouldent need those modes
[05:22] <dibblego> how can I run a script on login?
[05:22] <passbe> does anyone else have problems extracting a multiple part rar file ?
[05:22] <TheOneAndOnly> level09, 777 will give everyone read write access, 755 will give owner read write, everyone else read only
[05:22] <Dr_willis> dibblego,  depends on the window manager. Kde has .kde/Autostart Directory. Gnome has the session management features
[05:22] <hansin> Alan_M: Thanks for the help/info.
[05:22] <vadillo> dibblego: what distro are you are using?
[05:22] <dibblego> Dr_willis, I am using GNOME
[05:22] <zm> i ask a question
[05:22] <Dr_willis> dibblego,  what program anyway?
[05:22] <level09> how do I make it owned by webserver ?
[05:22] <Hellow> dibleggo, go to System - Preferences - Sessons for gnome
[05:23] <Alan_M> hansin, its what were here for :)
[05:23] <dibblego> Dr_willis, mozilla lightning
[05:23] <dibblego> Hellow, great thanks
[05:23] <thundr2> amirman84: I can't vouch for the quality because I haven't read it, but this might be a good starting point for learning Python: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Python
[05:23] <TheOneAndOnly> everyone, it's nice to see everyone getting so much help tonight :]
[05:23] <Dr_willis> dibblego,  start the program, save the session. it should autostart i think.
[05:23] <zm> why can't firefox install the flash player plugin?
[05:23] <TheOneAndOnly> thundr2, that is actually an excellent link, it's where i began
[05:23] <Dr_willis> zm,  because one normally installs flash from the package maanger tool.
[05:23] <Alan_M> Theoneandonly, yeah awesome when there arent fights :)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !flash | zm
[05:23] <ubotu> zm: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:23] <vadillo> zm: 32 or 64 system?
[05:24] <TheOneAndOnly> Alan_M, haha, not even fights, it's nice to see that no one is flooding the room w. the same question this evening - lol
[05:24] <zm> sudo apt-get install flash ?
[05:24] <Alan_M> lol true as well TheOneAndOnly
[05:24] <Starnestommy> zm: try this: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:24] <Yowshi> how do i undelete something from the trash? i am not sure what duir these files came from but i didnt want to delete them
[05:24] <TheOneAndOnly> zm, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:24] <zm> yeah
[05:24] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: just use add/remove
[05:25] <pen> TheOneAndOnly: it's so  much easier
[05:25] <TheOneAndOnly> pen, that too :]
[05:25] <Mannex> I am using the Darklooks theme for Gnome and now Firefox is displaying Text Boxes with dark colored background. Does anyone know how to change this?
[05:25] <Hellow> Yowshi: have you already deleted it or is it just in the trash?
[05:25] <michael__> anyone else having wireless troubles?
[05:25] <Yowshi> just in the trash Hellow
[05:25] <TheOneAndOnly> Mannex, go into the appearance settings, and change the colors for your theme, should correct the issue, but will change the colors for everything else accordingly
[05:26] <amirman84> michael_ : i've been there with wireless troubles
[05:26] <Hellow> Yowshi: hold on
[05:26] <michael__> yeah im trying to help some people out
[05:26] <michael__> it was a complete hassle to get mine working
[05:26] <zm> must i quit firefox first?
[05:26] <TheOneAndOnly> zm, no, but you need to restart after the install
[05:26] <Hellow> Yowshi: right click and press "Restore"
[05:26] <Starnestommy> zm: that would be a good idea
[05:27] <zm> ok```now im installing
[05:27] <zm> thank you
[05:27] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: have you read it? :)
[05:27] <Yowshi> Hellow there is no restore button
[05:27] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, yeah, sorry.
[05:27] <Hellow> Yowshi: hold on
[05:27] <amirman84> michael_ : i just ended up using vmware workstation to install ubuntu on a vm so i could use the bridged networking
[05:27] <michael__> amirman81: what chipset is your card??
[05:27] <icesword> no brige,use nat
[05:27] <icesword> then you get online
[05:27] <amirman84> but i would like to eventually install it on a dedicated partition so i'll have to figure out the wireless stuff eventually
[05:28] <amirman84> michael_: i believe it's broadcom
[05:28] <amirman84> i use the dell drivers on my windows machine
[05:28] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: do you know what is wrong?
[05:28] <thundr2> Yowshi: You should be able to just drag and drop the files to whichever folder you want them in.
[05:28] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, i'm checking into it...
[05:28] <michael__> amirman84: no shit garuntee i get it working in less than 20 min
[05:28] <TheOneAndOnly> google's not turning up much...
[05:28] <DeVonne> ok thank you
[05:28] <Yowshi> thundr2: i dont recall where they came from
[05:28] <amirman84> really?
[05:29] <michael__> amirman84: your using the bcm43xx driver in ubuntu right?
[05:29] <Yowshi> thundr2: i was cleaning out some rythm box list and clicked move to trash instead of remove
[05:29] <Mannex> TheOneAndOnly, thank you
[05:29] <amirman84> i think that's the one it installed when i was using linux mint so probably
[05:29] <Hellow> Yowshi: idk, im going to make a suggestion that they include a "Restore" function in the next release of Ubuntu
[05:29] <amirman84> it doesnt work at all though
[05:29] <michael__> amirman84: i use a broadcom card myself =P i have a way that worked for me if you wanna try it out ??
[05:29] <TheOneAndOnly> Mannex, for what exactly? heh
[05:29] <michael__> amirman84: mine didnt either
[05:29] <amirman84> well i could do it right now since i'm on a vm
[05:30] <Mannex> TheOneAndOnly, lol your suggestion regarding a previous question... nVm ;-)
[05:30] <thundr2> Yowshi: It probably came from your Home directory.  Under a directory like /.rhythmbox
[05:30] <amirman84> but i would love to know how to do it
[05:30] <TheOneAndOnly> Mannex, as long as your issue got resolved, i'm happy i could help :]
[05:30] <amirman84> do you use NDISwrapper?
[05:30] <pierrelux> bazhang: just to tell you it worked with hardy. i don't know what was wrong. maybe a wrong partitioning
[05:30] <ntorido> How can i make a back up in ubuntu?
[05:30] <michael__> amirman84: allright lemme see if i can find the link if not you wouldnt mind if i sent you some things would you ?
[05:30] <amirman84> not at all
[05:30] <Yowshi> thundr2: no i told it to import the entire home folder i thought it would only import sound files but it seems not
[05:30] <Bax_> in the terminal, after executing something and nothing happens, How do I exit or get that program to quit so I can return to the command line?
[05:31] <amirman84> how would you send it?
[05:31] <Starnestommy> Bax_: Ctrl+C
[05:31] <TheOneAndOnly> ntorido, a back up of what exactly?
[05:31] <michael__> amirman84: ok because i have saved to a folder for when i update but i think it should work for you do you have a copy of your driver?
[05:31] <ntorido> A folder
[05:31] <michael__> amirman84: like this
[05:32] <amirman84> the windows driver?
[05:32] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, i'm not seeing much on google... sry =/
[05:32] <michael__> amirman84: yes
[05:32] <amirman84> forgive my noobiness
[05:32] <ntorido> TheOneAndOnly,A folder.
[05:32] <DeVonne> ok :( thanks anyways
[05:32] <amirman84> i can get a copy really quick from the dell website but it's a dell driver
[05:32] <TheOneAndOnly> ntorido, i'd say archive it using bzip...
[05:32] <amirman84> it's branded with dell's name so i guess they made their own driver for the card
[05:32] <thundr2> Yowshi: There should be a way to find out where it came from, perhaps by changing the view of the trash folder.  I don't have Ubuntu running right now, so I can only be of limited help, sorry.
[05:32] <michael__> amirman84: hey im a newb to wanna go to a seperate channel or do you mind if i message you pruvatley
[05:32] <Bax_> so let me get this straight, everything in the /usr/bin are all the commands I can use in any other directory, right?
[05:33] <amirman84> go ahead and private message me
[05:33] <Starnestommy> Bax_: yes, the same goes for /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin/, and /usr/local/sbin/
[05:33] <[Rocc]> need help
[05:34] <Bax_> Starnestommy: what's the difference between each of those directories?  commands are more special?
[05:34] <thundr2> [Rocc]: What is your problem?
[05:34] <[Rocc]> Wireless wont work...
[05:34] <gliss> need beer
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> can someone tell me real quick if Hardy will be an LTS version ?
[05:34] <TheOneAndOnly> ntorido, run sudo apt-get install bzip2 to make sure bzip is installed then run man bzip2, that should help you out :]
[05:34] <CaptainMorgan> !LTS
[05:34] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:34] <cewe> SIAPA NAMAMU
[05:34] <TheOneAndOnly> CaptainMorgan, yes, hardy is LTS
[05:35] <level09> how do I install pear ?
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> TheOneAndOnly, that's great... looking forward to its release.. ;)
[05:35] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[05:35] <TheOneAndOnly> CaptainMorgan, it's pretty stable now, for a beta, but yes, the final release should be great
[05:35] <morphir_> does jeos come with xorg?
[05:35] <cewe> YOU IS NAME
[05:35] <[Rocc]> ummm
[05:35] <TheOneAndOnly> morphir_, no, jeos, is basically a server install
[05:35] <cewe> ]]]
[05:36] <morphir_> TheOneAndOnly: k
[05:36] <TheOneAndOnly> morphir_, it stands for just enough operating system
[05:36] <morphir_> yup
[05:36] <[Rocc]> I need help on wireless, it wont connect no matter what i do, I know i have Linksys
[05:36] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly: I found the cdrom drive in place -> computer and when I goto open it it says no media, althou the disc is in the drive
[05:36] <morphir_> TheOneAndOnly: I just had to confirm :)
[05:36] <gogeta> hey guys im stuck in the darkages of internet
[05:36] <Dmole> anyone know how to copy a file from one ubuntu to another with rate limiting and resume?
[05:36] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, eject the disc and place it back in, see if it will read it then.
[05:37] <DeVonne> I did it still will not read
[05:37] <gogeta> does ubuntu save softmodem suppport
[05:37] <gogeta> have
[05:37] <gliss> whats the best way to get java 1.6 on ubuntu?
[05:37] <amirman84> michael_: did you get my PM?
[05:37] <dibblego> I added an executable to the GNOME session startup programs and now the login session hangs; perhaps I should use & on the executable, but how do I revert it now?
[05:37] <gliss> right now ive got 1.4.2 or something
[05:37] <gliss> and i don't see any 1.6 packages
[05:37] <TheOneAndOnly> gogeta, http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+softmodem+support&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[05:37] <gogeta> gliss probly next ubuntu relese
[05:38] <DeVonne> TheOneAndOnly:  ejecting and reinsterting does nor work
[05:38] <gogeta> yea i wouldent ask if that led to any answers
[05:38] <[Rocc]> [Rocc]: still needs help :P
[05:38] <dhee^^> iooiuouioui
[05:38] <dhee^^> hai,,,
[05:39] <[Rocc]> hi
[05:39] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, hm... run dmsg after you insert and remove it, see if there is any info in there concerning the disc drive
[05:39] <jim> jim: is [Rocc] talkin to himslf?
[05:39] <Dmole> gliss: java.sun.com
[05:39] <gogeta> mo[e
[05:39] <gogeta> nope
[05:39] <thundr2> [Rocc]: Please be patient.  I don't have any experience with configuring wireless, or I'd help you.  But there are hundreds of other people in the room as well.  We'll get to your question as soon as possible.
[05:39] <DeVonne> -bash: dmsg: command not found
[05:40] <gogeta> connect cxt not workin
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> DeVonne; dmesg
[05:40] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, type-o sorry, dmesg
[05:42] <DeVonne> [   30.407252] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[05:42] <DeVonne> is this it?
[05:42] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, that looks like it'd be it, so ubuntu recognizes your cd drive
[05:42] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, can you put in a disc which you know for sure works under windows?
[05:42] <Gnea> ok, i just had something weird happen - i had my desktop in the locked-phase with the screensaver on. when i sat back down to unlock it, it *looked* like the screensaver crashed and i was presented with the standard login screen (as if to denote switching users, since i could still hear xmms pumping tunes through the speakers). upon being presented with the gnome-ish desktop, i found that my mouse cursor no longer appears over firefox o
[05:42] <[Rocc]> Thundr2: yessir!
[05:42] <gogeta> LOL i found a driver man i lucked out
[05:42] <gogeta> i have a lin modem
[05:42] <DeVonne> [   30.407243] hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[05:43] <DeVonne> this one does work under windows, it is a sims 2 disc
[05:43] <Gnea> Has anyone seen this before or know if there's a fix for it other than logging out, restarting X and logging back in?
[05:43] <TheOneAndOnly> Gnea, try ctrl+alt+f7, to switch to the default display
[05:43] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, at this point, i'm at a total loss :/
[05:44] <DeVonne> well this sucks
[05:44] <Gnea> TheOneAndOnly: *headdesk!* thank you :)
[05:45] <TheOneAndOnly> DeVonne, there may be someone else in the room capable of helping you out more
[05:45] <TheOneAndOnly> Gnea, np :]
[05:45] <Gnea> it was actually already on tty7 so i switched it to tty8 and back, problem solved
[05:45] <gogeta> wtf im not paying thwm for a driver
[05:45] <gogeta> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[05:45] <TheOneAndOnly> Gnea, haha, awesome :]
[05:45] <DeVonne> if anyone knows why the cdrom says it cant find the media of a disc please help me
[05:47] <Angry_Bacon> Any1 know why I would be getting signal loss with a 8800gt when trying to use nVidia 169.12?
[05:47] <[Rocc]> If anyone can help me with wireless please goto #helprocc
[05:48] <Zelta> [Rocc]: I think you may have better luck if you just ask your question in here.
[05:48] <[Rocc]> I have
[05:48] <[Rocc]> I need help on wireless, it wont connect no matter what i do, I know i have Linksys
[05:48] <Zelta> What model, in particular?
[05:49] <[Rocc]> Um
[05:49] <[Rocc]> lemme go look
[05:49] <[Rocc]> brb
[05:49] <michael__> this is pretty sweet everyone told me wine lagged badly im getting no lag at all
[05:49] <Angry_Bacon> I feel ignored, lol, he doesn't even ask his question
[05:49] <DeVonne> lol
[05:50] <Dmole> help: anyone know how to copy a file from one ubuntu to another with rate limiting and resume?
[05:50] <Dmole> other than winscp on wine
[05:50] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, i'd assume rsync would do it...
[05:50] <XceII> why cant I (when shutting down) hear the sound?
[05:51] <izinucs> Dmole, how bout just scp
[05:51] <Gnea> Dmole: wget
[05:51] <Angry_Bacon> Does anyone know how to get an 8800gt working?
[05:51] <Dmole> TheOneAndOnly: not that i can find in the man file
[05:51] <Dmole> izinucs: not that i can find in the man file
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> rsync is not installed by default
[05:52] <Angry_Bacon> None of the forum guides work
[05:52] <Angry_Bacon> Dmole: you could make a torrent
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, run sudo apt-get install rsync
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> then man rsync
[05:52] <[Rocc]> Wireless-G broadband router with speedboost 802.11g
[05:52] <[Rocc]> :|
[05:52] <Dmole> i have rsync
[05:52] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, rebuild your man pages index
[05:52] <michael__> [rocc] : i think i seen something that may help you
[05:52] <Dmole> i just can't find rate limiting and resume
[05:52] <thundr2> [Rocc]: What about your wireless card?
[05:53] <[Rocc]> its built into the hp pavilion 700
[05:53] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, i know wget supports resume, i'm not sure about rate limiting
[05:53] <amirman84> has anybody in here had success getting the ATI mobility radeon x1400 to work in ubuntu, and by work i mean 3D support
[05:53] <TheOneAndOnly> Dmole, i'd go with Angry_Bacon's option of making it a torrent
[05:54] <TheOneAndOnly> amirman84, i'm using that exact card, but the mobile version
[05:54] <Dmole> izinucs: scp has no rate limiting or resume that i see
[05:54] <donkey7186> question. i am trying to find a plugin for rhythmbox so i can play a certain radio station on it how do i find out which i need!??
[05:55] <amirman84> theoneandonly: i'm using the mobile version too, do you have 3D working?
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[05:56] <nickrud> !language | michael__
[05:56] <ubotu> michael__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:56] <michael__> sorry sorry
[05:56] <sorry> it relates to ubuntu
[05:56] <amirman84> theoneandonly: do you mind if i PM you?
[05:56] <kindofabuzz> sorry: i hope you don't have kids
[05:56] <TheOneAndOnly> not at all amirman84
[05:56] <Dmole> Gnea: thank you wget was a good call
[05:56] <RedScare> anyone know anything about cpu frequency scaling?
[05:57] <donkey7186> question. i am trying to find a plugin for rhythmbox so i can play a certain radio station on it how do i find out which i need!??
[05:58] <Dmole> izinucs:  I don't have QOS set up yet and it's a transfer that will take days so resume is likely needed but wget fills my need :) just did not come to mind untill Gnea said it
[05:58] <sjovan> donkey7186: this is a long shot (couse i don't know my self), but have you tryed apt-cache search rhythmbox | grep plugin ?
[05:58] <RedScare> why does powernowd refuse to scale my core 2 duo below 1GHz
[05:59] <donkey7186> nope
[05:59] <Delson> hello
[05:59] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, that's the lowest freq those procs will go, i run one myself :]
[05:59] <Delson> can somone help me with something
[05:59] <Delson> it might be a simple thing to eetup
[05:59] <donkey7186> sjovan no i havent
[06:00] <RedScare> TheOneAndOnly, that is what it is looking like
[06:00] <sjovan> donkey7186: nwm... apt-get doesn't have any plugins for that prog
[06:00] <donkey7186> oh
[06:00] <RedScare> I'm trying to discover why ubuntu runs hotter than my dual boot OS vista
[06:00] <Delson> can somone help me with something
[06:00] <Delson> ?
[06:01] <gogeta> RedScare acpi probly runs the fans slower
[06:01] <AngryBacon> Delson: Rule number X of irc, don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:01] <RedScare> i get more noise typically as well though gogeta
[06:01] <RedScare> its very odd
[06:01] <Zelta> Do you guys mind if I ask a question about asking a question about an issue I'm having regarding the asking of questions?
[06:01] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, that's exactly it. that is the lowest freq these processors will run at, any lower (you could hack around it) and you would notice major system issues
[06:01] <gogeta> RedScare naa its turning em up then back down
[06:02] <RedScare> from what little I've read 8.04 beta has better power management
[06:02] <TheOneAndOnly> RedScare, that noise you hear is the fan kicking on, there are ways to get them to not kick on until certain temps though
[06:02] <Delson> well u know how windows has like a grid so to speak for desktop icons....can i get ubuntu to have a more organized grid
[06:02] <Delson> and iwanna make all the icons smaller
[06:02] <thundr2> RedScare: Is the CPU load similar between Ubuntu and Vista?
[06:03] <gogeta> TheOneAndOnly he can kill acpi and let the bios handel it or just let em run at 100%
[06:03] <bobc> I'm trying to install a new hard drive in my system which will replace my existing drive and I'm having a problem with installing grub. grub-install /dev/sdb returns /dev/evms/hda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. Can anyone help me make sense of this?
[06:03] <[Rocc]> Um, did i get a answer, sorry ive been eating
[06:03] <AngryBacon> [Rocc]: scroll up
[06:03] <izinucs> thundr2, no Vista is much hungrier
[06:03] <RedScare> CPU load is similar
[06:03] <sjovan> donkey7186: btw... you don't need a plugin. you can add radiostations by default. or are you thinking about picking up signals from the air?
[06:03] <DeVonne> Does anyone know why when I put in a cd it can't read it? says there is no media
[06:03] <gogeta> RedScare yea its just your fans running diffrently
[06:04] <donkey7186> sjovan im trying to add a radio station. but when i try and add it it isnt working
[06:04] <gogeta> RedScare as long as its not hitting danger levels i wouldent worry