[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Frederick:  gnome has a 'share the desktipo via vnc feature'
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> dejavou42: thats because its not a package
[18:10] <dejavou42> ActionParsnip: That's what I was saying, my xorg.conf was configured for only 24 bit depth
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> dejavou42: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Frederick:  or if you start vncserver  - it will create a new desktop you could access remotely
[18:11] <uLinux> auto lo
[18:11] <uLinux> iface lo inet loopback
[18:11] <zreeas> could this crash a pc:  http://codepad.org/YNuJ8qx0   ?
[18:11] <angriukas> mountall: "terminated with status 16" on boot just after install 10.04 server x64. Please help...
[18:11] <kr3w> paniq why dont you try making another image from scratch
[18:12] <underground63645> ?
[18:12] <lukeguy> I need to load / install / compile a special HID driver. can anybody help me?
[18:12] <kr3w> see if your dependencies are okay
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> dejavou42: i dont use jockey, i just add that ppa and install nvidia-glx-185  gives the latest 195 driver nicely
[18:12] <ReligionHater> Is there a program to check the functionality of my LG DVD writer? It is messing up all my DVDs.
[18:12] <acicula> ReligionHater, check what functionality?
[18:12] <vlt> uLinux: I'd suggest using /etc/network/interfaces to configure your wired device connected to the windows machine.
[18:12] <uLinux> there is 2 entries
[18:13] <compaq> ReligionHater, why don't you try another burner, brazero is good
[18:13] <uLinux> auto lo
[18:13] <uLinux> iface lo inet loopback
[18:13] <ReligionHater> acicula, whether I should throw it away or whether the laster can be calibrated?
[18:13] <compaq> ReligionHater, I am religion lover btw, lol
[18:13] <patdk-lap> is there any way to get network manager and /etc/network/interfaces not to wipe each other out?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> uLinux: use pastebin for multiple line pasting
[18:13] <David-T> patdk-lap: good luck :)
[18:13] <patdk-lap> hehe :)
[18:13] <vlt> uLinux: "lo" is your local loopback device. Add your wired device (eth0 for example)
[18:13] <paniq> kr3w: this image is from university, there are some licencesed programs installed on it, so i didnt make it, but anyhwy, if not other, i will try on my sisters PC on win
[18:13] <patdk-lap> I just want to be able to use the vpn options in network manager
[18:14] <acicula> ReligionHater, i wouldnt know about that, is it even possible (for a consumer) to calibrate the laser?
[18:14] <frxstrem> is there a command that will check to see if a port on a host is open (for instance port 2222 on localhost), and then either return 0 or 1 to the shell depending on the status of that port?
[18:14] <patdk-lap> but when network manager starts it wipes everything
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> patdk-lap: the interfaces file will supercede nm, interfaces configured there will not appear in network manager
[18:14] <mickster04> away busy
[18:14] <ReligionHater> compaq, I have tried a few programs. I can not write DVDs correctly.
[18:14] <uLinux> vld "auto eht0"?
[18:14] <patdk-lap> ActionParsnip, not true, it wipes eth0 out every time network manger starts
[18:14] <uLinux> eth0
[18:14] <patdk-lap> and eth0 is setup in interfaces
[18:14] <angriukas> anybody regarding "mountall: terminated with status 16" during boot ?
[18:14] <patdk-lap> and network manager won't let me start vpn connections
[18:14] <kr3w> god dammit doesnt xchat do multi-server?
[18:14] <vlt> frxstrem: netstat
[18:14] <awaad> What is the Ubuntu runlevel which doesn't use GUI ?
[18:14] <ReligionHater> acicula, a colleague from work said that LG has such a program but I don't know if it works on Linux.
[18:14] <greezmunkey> kr3w: dude
[18:14] <acicula> frxstrem, different sources, your firewall rules dictate if it is accessible(and by whom), wether there is somethin listening there is depenent on the program, netstat will tell you that
[18:14] <BlessJah> i want to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, but i've got weak internet connection
[18:15] <compaq> ReligionHater, hmm, not sure what to say, except the worse thing, maybe you dvd-rw is broken
[18:15] <dejavou42> ActionParsnip: this is an older video card, and the hardware driver utility recognizes the card and recommends using the nvidia-96 drivers
[18:15] <kr3w> it does
[18:15] <kr3w> nvm
[18:15] <kr3w> found out how
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> dejavou42: i see
[18:15] <kr3w> not the same as mirc or irssi
[18:15] <BlessJah> it says that i have to download 944MB of packages and it will took ~8h
[18:15] <acicula> ReligionHater, i'd start with LG then on whether they distribute such a program
[18:15] <ReligionHater> compaq, yes I am afraid so. I was just wondering whether I could calibrate the laser with some program...
[18:15] <BlessJah> i've got 10.04 CD from shipit, how can i force ubuntu to use CD first and download only necessary things? i will upgrade later
[18:15] <awaad> What is the Ubuntu runlevel which doesn't use GUI, Is it run level 3 ??
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> patdk-lap: was the case in jaunty
[18:16] <patdk-lap> ActionParsnip, dunno been this way for karmic and lucid for me
[18:16] <compaq> ReligionHater, maybe, do an apt-cache search
[18:16] <ikonia> awaad: no, ubuntu runs at default 2, you have to disable gdm to not use the gui
[18:16] <vlt> uLinux: "auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n address <your ip> \n netmask <your netmask>"
[18:16] <patdk-lap> I lose the ipv4 ip on eth0 every time networkmanager starts
[18:16] <acicula> BlessJah, not really a way around that, you can upgrade from a cd ,http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading, but that still requires downloadin/ordering the installation cd
[18:16] <vlt> uLinux: It's "vlt" actually
[18:16] <uLinux> sorry lol
[18:17] <lukeguy> how do I load / build / compile a special HID driver module?
[18:17] <jungli> how can i surf via terminal
[18:17] <BlessJah> acicula: i already have cd, i can download about 100-200MB
[18:17] <ikonia> lukeguy: read the README and INSTALL documents in the source tarball
[18:17] <awaad> ikonia: How can I get to runlevel 3 ?
[18:17] <ikonia> awaad: you don't want to / need to
[18:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Ok I ran a live session of Lubuntu, it did the same black screen but I'm able to read the error now...
[18:17] <ikonia> awaad: upstart uses runlevels different than sysv init
[18:17] <jungli> ikonia: are you female ?
[18:17] <ikonia> jungli: why ?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> patdk-lap: just testing now
[18:18] <lukeguy> ikonia: the driver is in the KConfig file for the HID module, I just don't know if its enabled, and how to do so if it's not
[18:18] <acicula> BlessJah, you need the alternate installation cd to upgrade from cd, but it may still need to fetch some packages
[18:18] <awaad> ikonia: so ?
[18:18] <BlessJah> acicula: there is only about alternate, i've got livecd...
[18:18] <LinuxGuy2009> (process:224):GLib Warning **:getpwuid_r():failed due to unknown user id.
[18:18] <ikonia> awaad: so you don't want to go to run level 3
[18:18] <ikonia> lukeguy: modprobe it
[18:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Im rebooting and see if I get the same error again.
[18:18] <jungli> ikonia: your nick is female type ;)
[18:18] <ikonia> if you say so
[18:19] <acicula> BlessJah, that does not appear to be possible, but you could do a reinstall with the 10.04 cd?
[18:19] <BlessJah> acicula: yes i can, but it's a lot of work
[18:19] <ReligionHater> Can I find out what my DVD write model is with a Linux command?
[18:19] <BlessJah> is there any way to upgrade using livecd?
[18:19] <awaad> ikonia: What is the run level which I sould go to to have multiple users, networking and no GUI ?
[18:20] <guntbert> jungli: use w3m or lynx
[18:20] <patdk-lap> I didn't think ubuntu used runlevels anymore
[18:20] <vlt> ReligionHater: `wodim -checkdrive` or similar should tell you
[18:20] <ikonia> awaad: as I've told you - it doesn't work like that anymore with upstart, ubuntu runs at level 2 by default, if you want to disable the gui, you have to disable the gdm script, not change runlevels
[18:20] <kr3w> is there a better option to get hardware drivers?
[18:20] <kr3w> apart from the default
[18:20] <greezmunkey> ReligionHater: sudo lshw will tell you
[18:20] <acicula> BlessJah, understood, im just giving you the options.
[18:21] <uLinux> brb
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> ReligionHater: sudo lshw -C disk
[18:21] <moes> Lucid 10.04 ....No sound from  vlc or rhythmbox audio cd's ...players are actually playing
[18:21] <discozohan> Hello ;) While installing ubuntu server, i didn't choose mailserver ( for install ). And now i see, that 25 port is binded. Question - what process uses it ?
[18:21] <lukeguy> ikonia: I did modprobe usbhid
[18:21] <discozohan> netstat -tulpn doesn't show pid and process
[18:21] <Renji> Hello guys. Anybody knows how to configure my webcam with Skype ?
[18:21] <BlessJah> acicula: ok thx, i thought someone else could know sth
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> discozohan: try:    netstat -a | grep 25
[18:21] <ikonia> discozohan: netstat is not for processes
[18:21] <BlessJah> acicula: i will reinstall
[18:21] <acicula> kr3w, for some drivers like the graphicx drivers there are closed source alternatives(ati/nvidia), but typically thats it
[18:21] <ReligionHater> Thx
[18:22] <lukeguy> ikonia: "config HID_PANTHERLORD" is the kconfig entry
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> moes: are all volume levels high and not muted?
[18:22] <awaad> ikonia: So, How can I disable the gdm script ?
[18:22] <lukeguy> I don't know if it's compiled into usbhid, I guess that's what that means
, nothing showed. What does it mean ?
[18:22] <ikonia> lukeguy: modprobe it,
[18:22] <moes> ActionParsnip, yes  200% volume
[18:22] <ikonia> awaad: update-rc.d
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> discozohan: means nothing is listening or using that port number
[18:23] <lukeguy> ikonia: I don't know what to modprobe... usbhid is called "USB_HID" in the kconfig file, so that's a constant
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> moes: have you got your speakers turned on?
, ok, thanks ;)
[18:23] <jessid> hi guys. I have been looking for info about display brightness in ubuntu 10.04, but havent been able to make it work. It used to work in previous versions. When i try to modify brightness using the fn key, it shows the little window but nothig happens. Some help, please.....
[18:23] <frxstrem> is it possible to detect if an iPhone or iPod touch is connected to the computer?
[18:24] <greezmunkey> discozohan: look here: http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-40624.html
[18:24] <moes> ActionParsnip, ..Yes power on and volume completely opened
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> moes: ok have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:24] <awaad> ikonia: update-rc.d Didn't do any thing
[18:25] <ikonia> awaad: look at the synatx of how to use it
[18:25] <greezmunkey> discozohan: Heh, it's part of the distro! man lsof
[18:25] <awaad> ikonia: I tried update-rc.d gdm disable
[18:25] <giridhar> mail servers or not accepting the emails sent from localhost postfix becoz of reason dynamic ip address, is there any way solve this ?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> awaad:  that dosent work with Updtart services i belive.
[18:25] <napster> How can I shutdown my computer after 2 minutes
[18:26] <napster> ?
[18:26] <ikonia> awaad: that doesn't look like the right syntax
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> awaad:  rename /etc/init/gnome.conf to be /etc/init/gnome.DONTSTART   or similer
[18:26] <vlt> giridhar: That's for spam ptotection. Use a decent mail server ;-)
[18:26] <wzssyqa_> napster: man shutdown
[18:27] <moes> ActionParsnip, Not installed will do so Thanks..anything else I may need
[18:27] <giridhar> vlt : ya ur right ! but still is there any trick for that, please explain
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> moes: that will instll codecs which you need but for legal reasons cannnot be included in the install
[18:27] <napster> wzssyqa_, RTFM is always an overhead! Can you answer me or not?
[18:27] <awaad> ikonia, Dr_willis: I used to run init 3, and I am not good in Ubuntu or even in English, Can any one give me the complete and clear way to use Ubuntu without GUI, please ????
[18:27] <guntbert> vlt: you usually use the smtp server of your provider - no need to run your own
[18:28] <wzssyqa_> napster: shutdow -t120
[18:28] <vlt> giridhar: (what guntbert said)
[18:28] <napster> wzssyqa_, Thanks a lot
[18:28] <guntbert> vlt: sorry - thx for the redirect :-)
[18:28] <giridhar> vlt: any way its fine, becoz i had smtp servers, but i need to use local mail server for spam.
[18:29] <queso> Since upgrading to Lucid, I have been having problems with my sound working.  Videos in my browsers play but without sound, and when I hit Play in Rhythmbox it doesn't play (the Play button stays depressed, but the song-location indicator doesn't move and there's no sound).  Help?
[18:29] <guntbert> giridhar: you don't need a local mail server to *send* mail!
[18:29] <giridhar> how to restrict a user only to his home folder and no access to view or read any other.
[18:29] <pokeh> hey, i've got a shell script that runs a terminal command that launches a wine application. It works just great, but I have to click "Run in terminal" or just "run" for it to work. Can I just have it run in terminal bypassing that prompt?
[18:29] <eye-zak> queso: is your sound card listed in sound preferences -> hardware ?
[18:30] <pokeh> In effect, I want it to be like an application launcher.
[18:30] <eye-zak> pokeh: try using gnome-terminal -e <program>
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> pokeh: make a .desktop for it in /usr/share/applications
[18:31] <LGM^> sup all
[18:31] <dshbusiness> queso: It would be better if you re-install lucid totally.
[18:31] <uLinux> vlt "auto eth0 \n iface eth0 inet static \n address <IP_ADDRESS> \n netmask <IP_ADDRESS>" how can I the gateway
[18:31] <uLinux> add
[18:31] <LGM^>  has any one ran into  the evelution issue on ubuntu 10.4
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> pokeh: or use alacarte to make a menu item for it, you can then drag the menu item to the desktop / panel
[18:31] <LGM^>  where it cloes after you open it
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> uLinux: gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> uLinux: or whatever yours is
[18:32] <pokeh> ActionParsnip: That sounds like the best solution. I'll try it out.
[18:32] <giridhar> how to restrict a user only to his home folder
[18:32] <awaad> Any one can give me a clear way to change my runlevel into a runlevel which doesn't use GUI, the same as old "init 3" ??
[18:32] <uLinux> ActionParsnip I just add that in front of netmask right
[18:32] <guntbert> giridhar: to prevent htem reading other home directories: sudo chmod -v 0700 /home/*
[18:32] <guntbert> *them
[18:32] <wzssyqa_> giridhar: the default is this
[18:32] <eye-zak> awaad: did you try update-rc.d -f gdm remove ?
[18:32] <uLinux> brb
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> uLinux: on the next line in the file, yes
[18:33] <uLinux> oh next line not the same line
[18:33] <napster> wzssyqa_,
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> uLinux: yeah, they all go on separate lines
[18:33] <awaad> eye-zak: No I didn't thanks a lot it worked
[18:33] <wzssyqa_> napster: ?
 like if the user logged into my system from ssh, he gets access to shell and other directories including root and all. just he needs to browse or view that user home dir
[18:34] <vlt> uLinux: In your case there's no gateway on that device. You need to tell the other machine to use <IP_ADDRESS> as its gateway.
[18:34] <eye-zak> awaad: fbset is now your friend
[18:34] <andriucha1982> hallo, i cann't conect to my internet bank. :( i have no java on my new ubuntu 10.04. Can somebody ecplain how to install java on  my computer... ;(  i get this mesage Not Found
[18:34] <andriucha1982> The requested URL /portal/4210/3_privat__nfpb=true&_pageLabel=sb1_bank_login&T47200328281203554980964_actionOverride=/sb1/web/security/authentication/bankid/displayloginapplet&_windowLabel=T47200328281203554980964&javaversion=1.6.0_18&bidtype=NC&os=LIN was not found on this server.
[18:34] <uLinux> yes vlt
[18:34] <napster> wzssyqa_, I don't say a word...
[18:34] <uLinux> but im using all those stuff in one line
[18:34] <shazbotmcnasty> when draining oil on my car, can I put the bolt back in when it's at a slow drip? Or must I wait until it's completely stopped.
[18:34] <shazbotmcnasty> ?
[18:35] <lukeguy> I think I'm missing a driver module... where do I get it?
[18:35] <guntbert> giridhar: but he cannot do anything there - so why bother? there exists the possibility to "chroot" - but I'm told there are many complications using it with ssh
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> uLinux: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[18:35] <vlt> uLinux: "\n" stand for line break here ;-)
[18:35] <uLinux> ye :) got it
[18:35] <bolt> shazbotmcnasty: your car runs ubuntu?
[18:35] <napster> wzssyqa_, I use shutdown +2
[18:35] <shazbotmcnasty> bolt, it could
[18:35] <infid> is there any harm in reconfiguring dash to not install as /bin/sh?
[18:35] <guntbert> giridhar: you will want to sudo chmod -v 0700 /root too
[18:36] <wzssyqa_> napster: it can do it'
[18:36] <awaad> eye-zak: How can I get it back ?
[18:36] <costre> shazbotmcnasty, I think you can't get more ot than that
[18:36] <eye-zak> infid: dash is a bit smaller than bash
[18:36] <napster> wzssyqa_, So thanks
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> lukeguy: for what hardware?
[18:36] <uLinux> !ot | shazbotmcnasty
[18:36] <shazbotmcnasty> no u
[18:36] <giridhar> guntbert: ok, let me try, i tried with rssh which even got me a lot troubles and finally not working,
[18:36] <shazbotmcnasty> I know what to do kiddies
[18:36] <infid> eye-zak: i said /bin/sh
[18:36] <shazbotmcnasty> I just don't know WHO ELSE TO ASK ON FREENODE
[18:36] <lukeguy> ActionParsnip: GreenAsia adapter, kconfig suggests I need the Pantherlord driver
[18:36] <shazbotmcnasty> !ot | shazbotmcnasty
[18:36] <uLinux> #oil or something
[18:37] <costre> shazbotmcnasty, How about googling "how to change my car's oil" ?
[18:37] <queso> eye-zak: I should say, the sound works sometimes.  If I reboot it works; but if my wife switches to her account it stops working.
[18:37] <phlak_user> hi
[18:37] <guntbert> shazbotmcnasty: don't shout and keep to the topic of this channel please
[18:37] <eye-zak> infid: afaik bash has all features of sh + more
[18:37] <infid> eye-zak: oh i see, that would be bash
[18:37] <shazbotmcnasty> >_>
[18:37] <queso> dshbusiness: Reinstall lucid from scratch? Why I shouldn't have to do that :P
[18:37] <lukeguy> shazbotmcnasty: wait until it's all stopped
[18:37] <xs2ubuntu> hello
[18:37] <xs2ubuntu> hye
[18:37] <alket> I just activated the Lyrics plugin to Rythmbox but I can't notice displayed anywhere ?
[18:37] <lukeguy> shouldn just take a few minutes
[18:37] <infid> eye-zak: i just need to know if not having dash would break anything if i changed it to bash
[18:37] <lukeguy> change the oil filter in the meantime
[18:38] <awaad> eye-zak: Can you tell me how to undo "update-rc.d -f gdm remove" ??
[18:38] <xs2ubuntu> how to install 3G handphone on ubuntu???
[18:38] <eye-zak> awaad: i would re-install gdm to ensure it gets it right, otoh update-rc.d gdm defaults (but it probably starts in the wrong order)
[18:38] <pokeh> ActionParsnip: Your method was 100% perfect, because its ultimate location was Docky, and it works phenominally. Thanks to everyone else too. Cheers.
[18:38] <guntbert> lukeguy: drop it please
[18:38] <wzssyqa_> awaad: sudo apt-get install gdm --reinstall
[18:38] <eye-zak> infid: no, bash has all of dash's features afaik
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> pokeh: np man. glad you got the gold :)
[18:39] <lukeguy> guntbert: but feeding trolls is fun! sorry, I'll stop
[18:39] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, plugin the usb or pair it via bluetooth
[18:39] <eye-zak> queso: a reinstall probably is best, but you could try running pulseaudio as a system service (but it is not the best idea)
[18:39] <andriucha1982> sorry.. can some one tell me how to install java on my ubuntu 10.04, i cann't conect to my internet bank, i have instaled "ubuntu restricted extras" form ubuntu software center... bun still i get mesage :
[18:39] <andriucha1982> Not Found
[18:39] <andriucha1982> The requested URL /portal/4210/3_privat__nfpb=true&_pageLabel=sb1_bank_login&T47200328281203554980964_actionOverride=/sb1/web/security/authentication/bankid/displayloginapplet&_windowLabel=T47200328281203554980964&javaversion=1.6.0_18&bidtype=NC&os=LIN was not found on this server.
[18:39] <FloodBot3> andriucha1982: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <patdk-lap> hmm, update-rc.d doesn't work for upstart
[18:40] <lukeguy> guntbert, do you know how I get / build / load the pantherlord HID driver?
[18:40] <eye-zak> adriucha1982: sudo apt-get install default-jre
[18:40] <xs2ubuntu> acicula :: my pc doesnt have a bluetooth
[18:40] <lukeguy> it's a kernel module
[18:40] <wzssyqa_> andriucha1982: openjdk
[18:40] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, then connect the phone via an usb cable?
[18:40] <guntbert> lukeguy: no, sorry but
[18:40] <a3ist> andriucha1982, often if you get errors finding stuff via the software center, you can try switching to a different mirror of the repo via the Software Sources
[18:40] <dshbusiness> queso: How do you update your system?  upgrade it from karmic?
[18:40] <guntbert> !compile | lukeguy
[18:40] <lukeguy> !packages HID
[18:41] <lukeguy> !packagesHID
[18:41] <lukeguy> argh
[18:41] <phlak_user> andriucha1982: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[18:41] <lukeguy> sorry
[18:41] <lukeguy> !package HID
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> andriucha1982: does: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml   say you have java?
[18:41] <FloodBot3> lukeguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <eye-zak> queso: i'm assuming you've tried playing with alsamixer
[18:42] <xcanadianmanx> i'm trying to install 10.04 from the live cd and i'm using nomodeset cuz i keep getting an installation failed error. now it freezes at the ubuntu load screen? is there anything i can do to fix these problems?
[18:42] <jessid> friends some help with display brightness in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:42] <xs2ubuntu> acicula :: im already plugin with usb but not detect??
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> xcanadianmanx: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[18:42] <xcanadianmanx> actionparsnip, no can i use the check disc feature on the live cd?
[18:42] <eye-zak> xcanadianmanx: did you try xforcevesa to use vesa xorg
[18:43] <xcanadianmanx> eye-zak: i will try that as well
[18:43] <acicula> !3G
[18:43] <fatalnix> is there a way I can tell maybe dpkg or apt to ignore a particular problematic dependency which I installed on my own?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> xcanadianmanx: sure but remember in future to check the data so you dont waste time and disks, a bad image will make a bad install
[18:43] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, what type of phone
[18:43] <greezmunkey> discozohan: Did you try lsof? It works pretty well like this: sudo lsof -i :80 - as an example
[18:44] <xs2ubuntu> acicula :: nokia Xm5800
[18:44] <eye-zak> fatalnix: not exactly, but you can force a version so it is locked and apt / synaptic will not upgrade it
[18:44] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, symbian os?
[18:44] <dnivra> hello. My network manager says in wired network "Device unmanaged". So how do I make it managed by network manager?
, yeah ;) very sexy
[18:44] <eye-zak> fatalnix: if the package u installed does not satisfy the dependency by dpkg standards, you can also use equivs
[18:45] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, set the phone usb setting to erm the option where it does not try to share the internal storage
[18:45] <xs2ubuntu> acicula :: yes symbian os
[18:45] <fatalnix> what do you mean force a version? xen-tools isn't available on 10.4 so I installed it manually, but ubuntu-xen-server requires it. I was just thinking there has to be a way I Can make it think xen-tools is installed and ignore it
[18:45] <wzssyqa_> dnivra: /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:45] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, something called sync, or something
[18:45] <fatalnix> I figured at least dpkg could do that
[18:45] <dnivra> wzssyqa_, what do I do there?
[18:45] <a3ist> dnivra:  first thing to try with network interface issues is just to restart the interface; "ifconfig <interface> down" then "ifconfig <interface> up"
[18:45] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, it should not show up as a drive under places
[18:45] <vlt> dnivra: Try to remove it from /etc/network/interfaces
[18:45] <oldhp> Hello channel! I need some help doing the make config on my linux wireless drivers!
[18:45] <greezmunkey> discozohan: yeah, that one goes on my scratchpad file ;)
[18:45] <mankash> how to fix the resolution of my pc, it shows only 800x600
[18:45] <andriucha1982> \thank you, i will try
[18:46] <eye-zak> fatalnix: for complex dependency issues i use aptitude, it has the best conflict resolution and shows you exactly what a package needs easily
[18:46] <xs2ubuntu> acicula :: im try connect under mass storage but the problem still same cant detect
[18:46] <fatalnix> yeah, but that fails as well if I recall, hold on
[18:46] <dnivra> a3ist, vlt wzssyqa_ well my internet didn't work for sometime using network manager so I switched to pppoeconf. now I just want to know how to switch back to network manager?
[18:46] <acicula> xs2ubuntu, yeah dont connect as mass storage
[18:47] <acicula> you have like three or four options when you plug in the usb(on the phone)
[18:47] <vlt> dnivra: Try to remove it from /etc/network/interfaces
[18:47] <oldhp> If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated
[18:47] <mnemon> oldhp: with?
[18:47] <dnivra> vlt, remove what precisely?
[18:47] <phlak_user> oldhp: state the nature of your problem please
[18:47] <oldhp> Installing my wireless drivers
[18:47] <asheron__> hi how can i select the codec to use when i rip media, there was een config tool i found but i forgot the name
[18:47] <phlak_user> asheron__: grip?
[18:47] <vlt> dnivra: The lines regarding your device (maybe maintained by pppoeconf)
[18:48] <chegney> Hi looking for tips on installing a minimal version 10 system, i've downloaded the minimal cd and started installing with that
[18:48] <xs2ubuntu> acicula:: OK im Try it 1st
[18:48] <mnemon> oldhp: what chipset?
[18:48] <wzssyqa_> dnivra: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[18:48] <vlt> chegney: Fine
[18:48] <chegney> I want a base system with X gnome gdm and openbox
[18:48] <oldhp> I have a WPC11 version 1 of this device: http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/WPC11/download
[18:48] <eye-zak> chegney: gui or no gui
[18:48] <dnivra> vlt, generally what does the file contain: just info on "auto lo" and "auto eth0"?
[18:49] <oldhp> It's a Linksys wireless card, pcmcia i believe
[18:49] <phlak_user> oldhp: broadcom based?
[18:49] <eye-zak> chegney: install packages with APT::Install-Recommends=false (or appropriate option in aptitude) to ensure a minimal set of dependencies
[18:49] <wzssyqa_> dnivra: it descpite the interfaces that have been active
[18:49] <asheron__> phlak_user: there is a config util witch allows you to select the codec if you rip audio, and it was an standalone program
[18:49] <oldhp> I don't know what it's based on...it's a very old card
[18:50] <fatalnix> yeah aptitude doesnt seem to have an ignore dependencies option that ive found yet.
[18:50] <dshbusiness> Help. How to install a java virtual machine? sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre does not work
[18:50] <phlak_user> asheron__: cant say, ive alsways used grip
[18:50] <dnivra> wzssyqa_, vlt ok. shall try removing those lines. thanks!
[18:50] <oldhp> And this is a very old computer...10+ years old HP laptop
[18:50] <wzssyqa_> dshbusiness: openjdk
[18:50] <dshbusiness> wzssyqa_: thanks
[18:50] <phlak_user> oldhp: so whats the problem? have you installed lucid on it?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> !java
[18:50] <fatalnix> lol oldhp I bet 2.4 would run better on that
[18:50] <wzssyqa_> dnivra: be careful,back it up ,first
[18:51] <fatalnix> linux kernel 2.4 that is
[18:51] <Hammer89> Is there a way to set the audio volume so it persists at a certain level after a reboot?
[18:51] <oldhp> phlak_user: yes i have the latest desktop of ubuntu 10.04 installed, it works great
[18:51] <chegney> eye-zak: would instructions on this site still be valid? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155961
[18:51] <frxstrem> what is /dev/null for?
[18:51] <dnivra> wzssyqa_, already have. not going to try now though. happy that I finally got through to the internet after 8 hours. so no risks now :).
[18:51] <mnemon> oldhp: you can get it to work with ndiswrapper + windowsxp drj
[18:51] <phlak_user> Hammer89: alsamixer
[18:51] <mnemon> ivers
[18:51] <phlak_user> Hammer89: alsactl store saves it
[18:51] <Hammer89> phlak_user: is there a configuration file somewhere that I can use to set it?
[18:52] <oldhp> mnemon: I have been unable to find the .int file for the ndiswrapper trick
[18:52] <lachouffe> hi all ! stupid question: what I cannot do a "cat test.wav > /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p"
[18:52] <lachouffe> i tried and get "cat: write error: File descriptor in bad state"
[18:52] <eye-zak> chegney: i'm not sure, it looks like it has most of the stuff you need but you will not have as many packages without the depends
[18:52] <greezmunkey> lachouffe: try sudo in front of that.
[18:52] <oldhp> My card is a Linksys WPC11 version 1, it's very hard to find any support for it
[18:52] <Hammer89> phlak_user: because every time I restart it resets the volume to its lowest level... even after changing it in alsamixer
[18:52] <eye-zak> chegney: you need gnome-session, nautilus,gnome-panel and gdm to get a basic basic session
[18:53] <juanefren> Why does frequently (about twice at day) keyboard, right click and dropdown menus stops working? the only way I have found to solve it, is going to terminal mode (Ctrl + Alt + F1) and then returning to GUI (Ctrl + Alt + F7). I have been using ubuntu since 5.10 (using every release) and I think this happen to me since 7.04 (but not for sure)
[18:53] <phlak_user> Hammer89: set the volume levels using alsamixer
[18:53] <eye-zak> chegney: but that also will give you metacity
[18:53] <vlt> oldhp, fatalnix: I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 with LXDE (lubuntu-desktop) just fine on my old HP (Omnibook 6000).
[18:53] <Hammer89> phlak_user: I have, no luck with that. It works till I restart.
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> oldhp: run: sudo lshw -C network     the make and model is fairly moot
[18:53] <uLinux> Now it won't use eth0
[18:53] <Remmaze> hey guys, im running 10.04 on lenovo x100e, is there a reason my is the WIFI signal only around 65% even thou the router is only beside me???
[18:53] <phlak_user> Hammer89: sudo alsactl store
[18:53] <uLinux> dam
[18:53] <Hammer89> phlak_user: okay, I'll try that
[18:54] <lachouffe> greezmunkey, i did
[18:54] <chegney> man I don't know what irc client i'm using here, but I can't figure out how to ignore all the crap
[18:54] <dave__> does empathy in 10.04 support IRC ? some say yes, some no but I do not have the protocol in the drop down list
[18:54] <poutine> Remmaze, latency is more important than reported wifi strength levels
[18:54] <phlak_user> Remmaze: maybe theres too much noise; iwconfig should tell you that
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Remmaze: if you read through: dmesg | grep -i firmware     see if it mentions firmware files needed
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> chegney:  look in the about/help menu perhaps?
[18:54] <undecim> juanefren: Maybe a bad mouse. I have the same problem where my left-click stops working because my touchpad doesn't release the button.
[18:54] <eye-zak> lachouffe: you need a root terminal sudo -s
[18:54] <umshayeli> Hi
[18:54] <chegney> Dr_Willis: it's a text client
[18:54] <chegney> Dr_Willis: no menus
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> chegney:  then how did you run it?
[18:55] <vlt> !who | uLinux
[18:55] <queso> dshbusiness: I went from Jaunty -> Karmic -> Lucid.
[18:55] <chegney> Dr_Willis: typed irc
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> chegney:  seems odd you ran it without knowing the command/name of it..
[18:55] <pokeh> Does anyone know how to execute the "Show Desktop" application from a shell script?
[18:55] <compaq> does ubuntu install on these new touch screen desktops?
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> chegney:  try irc --version
[18:55] <uLinux> vlt is it \n or /n to break the line
[18:55] <phlak_user> compaq: like an AIO pc?
[18:55] <uLinux> \n
[18:55] <vlt> uLinux: It's usually pressing the return key ;-)
[18:55] <umshayeli> I wonder whether someone will be able to help me to install my usb-tv-dongle on ubuntu.10.4
[18:55] <queso> eye-zak: alsamixer, as in, in the Sound Preferences dialog?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> umshayeli:  plug it in.. see if it works...
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> umshayeli:  if so.. its installed. :()
[18:56] <chegney> Dr_Willis: it's IRCII
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> chegney:  thats old-skool
[18:56] <eye-zak> queso: as in run sudo alsamixer in a terminal and sudo alsactl store after you get it right
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> pokeh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555829
[18:56] <greezmunkey> lachouffe: do you have /dev/audio on your system?
[18:56] <umshayeli> I wouldn't be here if it worked
[18:56] <Hammer89> phlak_user: It works for the main speakers, but not for the headphones
[18:57] <Hammer89> phlak_user: "front" is always reset to mute
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> umshayeli: run: lsusb   one lie will identify the device, use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[18:57] <phlak_user> Hammer89: start alsamixer with -c0 option
[18:57] <jessid> does any body knows what happens with display brightness in ubuntu 10.04??? in previous versions used to work..... some clues to fix this????
[18:57] <queso> eye-zak: okay, I'll try that
[18:57] <phlak_user> jessid: laptop or desktop?
[18:58] <ubuntujenkins> in http://paste.ubuntu.com/437936/ how would i search for "name: <alsa_card.usb-Logitech_Logitech_USB_Headset-00-Headset>" and then read the number that is in the line above in this case it is 2 but it changes each time i plug my headset in.
[18:58] <phlak_user> jessid: if a desktop just use the hardware controls on the monitor
[18:58] <jessid> phlak_user laptop
[18:58] <juanefren> undecim: no... I have had several mice since 2007, It is a problem related to my graphics driver but, not sure how to solve it.
[18:58] <visof> when i want to start script when i execute startx , just put it in ~/.xinitrc , if i want to run when i start my Debian only , i want it run before running startx even
[18:58] <phlak_user> jessid: what make?
[18:58] <jessid> toshiba
[18:58] <umshayeli> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18b4:1689 e3C Technologies DUTV009
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> visof: reference in in /etc/rc.local  above the exit line
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> umshayeli: ok now websarch for the ID
[18:59] <Hammer89> phlak_user: no luck... still resets it to 0
[18:59] <jessid> phlak_user toshiba
[18:59] <compaq> PHLAK, not sure, but there are touch screen computers by hp, ibm, and others out these days
[18:59] <phlak_user> compaq: did you have a particular model in mind? there may be people who use ubuntu on some
[19:00] <phlak_user> jessid: what happens when you try  changing brightness with the fn keys?
[19:00] <compaq> PHLAK, no, i was just wondering in general
[19:00] <phlak_user> compaq: you might have to go through the hcl
[19:00] <NimbleRabit> I'm using Ubuntu 10.4 (Lucid), and whenever I try to balance my speakers (using a 5.1 system, trying to turn the front ones down) it doesn't work and seems to just edit the master sound instead.  I'm not sure where to start trying to fix this, anybody got experience in this?
[19:00] <compaq> PHLAK, what is hcl?
[19:00] <dshbusiness> queso: Many people said there is too many differences among the three release. Upgrade from the old one to the new one usually cause some small problems.  Usually, they are not serious, but boring.:)
[19:00] <eye-zak> NimbleRabit: alsamixer
[19:00] <NimbleRabit> I'm using alsamixer
[19:01] <jessid> phlak_user it only shows the little window and simulates the operation. I mean, it shows the indicator, but  brightness remains the same
[19:01] <NimbleRabit> if I try to turn something down it won't let me
[19:01] <phlak_user> NimbleRabit: just install pavucontrol; it will help you control the volume of various elements in pulseaudio
[19:01] <compaq> PHLAK, what is aio too
[19:01] <phlak_user> !hcl|compaq
[19:01] <compaq> PHLAK, thanks
[19:01] <phlak_user> compaq: AIO -> All In One PC
[19:01] <frxstrem> is it possible to prevent my iPod touch from automatically mount when I connect it to my PC?
[19:01] <NimbleRabit> phlak_user, I'll try.  Thanks.
[19:01] <queso> eye-zak: okay, alsamixer didn't make a difference.  but I went into my wife's account and logged her out, then went back into my account and the sound works.  why wouldn't the sound work for me if she's logged in?
[19:01] <compaq> PHLAK, oh, hehe, that was an easy one
[19:02] <Vinky> can someone suggest a good gui frontend for gdb?
[19:02] <phlak_user> jessid: do any of the fn keys work for you?
[19:02] <phlak_user> Vinky: ddd
[19:02] <eye-zak> queso: pulseadio for each user is competing with itself, a system service might solve that
[19:02] <wzssyqa_> frxstrem: there is a fuse tool
[19:02] <umshayeli> @action    I am searching for any suitable hint for days already
[19:03] <wzssyqa_> frxstrem: maybe it is called ifuse
[19:03] <joe_> I am attempting to mount a PATA drive, but I get an error when I use the following command: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdf1 /home/joe/dad/sdf1 :  Any ideas as to how I can access the data on the drive?
[19:03] <eye-zak> queso: it is also possible to get your alternate user's sound to go through the pulseaudio server from the primary user, using pulseaudio networking
[19:03] <pokeh> ActionParsnip: Again, your magical powers have provided me with not just the answer to my question, but the path to my more complicated end goal. Thanks :)
[19:03] <acicula> joe_, whats the error
[19:03] <UT8F> rhythmbox vs listen vs amarok - best sound quality?
[19:03] <phlak_user> joe_: is that PATA drive on /dev/sdf1 ?
[19:03] <frxstrem> wzssyqa_: yes, I know, but I asked how to *prevent* it from automatically mounting, not how to automatically mount it (it's already doing that in 10.4)
[19:03] <joe_> NTFS signature is missing.
[19:03] <joe_> Failed to mount '/dev/sdf1': Invalid argument
[19:03] <joe_> The device '/dev/sdf1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[19:03] <joe_> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[19:03] <joe_> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[19:03] <FloodBot3> joe_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <eye-zak> queso: paprefs can be used to enable sharing on primary user, and paman  (not deprecated) can be used on the secondary user to connect to the first user's server
[19:04] <phlak_user> joe_: exactly; the device number isnt prolly correct
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> pokeh: np man
[19:04] <eye-zak> queso: sorry paman (now deprecated)
[19:04] <UT8F> rhythmbox vs listen vs amarok - best sound quality?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> UT8F: depends on settings
[19:04] <phlak_user> joe_: what does sudo fdisk -l tell you (pastebin it)
[19:05] <NimbleRabit> Using pavucontrol didn't help.  What happens when I try to turn one down is that they all get turned down (after a few seconds), and I can't turn any of them up (it screws with the sound for a sec then snaps back where it was).
[19:05] <joe_> When I used the 'Disk Utility' It give me that number
[19:05] <UT8F> default
[19:05] <dshbusiness> queso: If everything was ok when you were in karmic and something goes wrong after you have upgraded, just re-install lucid with a full lucid cd. Format the /boot, and / . I wish you have make your /home as a independent partition.:)
[19:05] <queso> eye-zak: hmm.  this used to "just work."  What changed?  they decided to use something different in lucid that now, after my upgrade, has not been automatically configured?
[19:05] <joe_> fdisk -l is blank
[19:05] <phlak_user> NimbleRabit: try changing the type of output device in pavucontrol
[19:05] <dipu_> joe_ : try sudo fdisk -l
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> UT8F: depends what you determine as quality, its completely tangible. Why not just install them and try
[19:05] <fatalnix> I think I'll just have to downgrade to karmic until Xen is fully supported, seems how my friend wont allow me to put Arch or something on it.
[19:05] <UT8F> ActionParsnip: default settings
[19:05] <queso> dshbusiness: /home is an independant partition, but I still don't want to re-install.  it seems unnecessary.  my sound works in some cases, I'd rather learn how to fix it.
[19:06] <eye-zak> queso: new kernel, alsa and pulseaudio, your problem may be due to the upgrade
[19:06] <queso> eye-zak: what's the difference between paprefs and pulseaudio?  which should I use?
[19:06] <eye-zak> queso: paprefs, paman are just gui controls for pulseaudio
[19:06] <phlak_user> queso: paprefs lets you set preferences for pulseaudio
[19:06] <UT8F> ActionParsnip: sound quality - good sound ^^ lol... I dont know how to say, need player to play mp3 in good sound quality
[19:06] <joe_> dipu_ : Thanks, I seem to be n00bin it today.
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> UT8F: they will all do that
[19:07] <queso> eye-zak, phlak_user: great, thanks -- I'll look into that
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> UT8F: just try a few, see which you like. what you consider ood quality, the next guy may say sounds garbage
[19:07] <dipu_> joe_ :  welcome .. i always do that ,,and then use sudo ;-)
[19:07] <phlak_user> UT8F: actually i find SMplayer quite good
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> !player | UT8F
[19:07] <Tazer> Hello! I was curious about how Grub2 is coming along. Can it boot from EFI without limiting hardware performance yet?
[19:07] <greezmunkey> *Stupid* question, modprobe -r removes and module, but in the man page -i says ignore install, how do I install a module?? (I know, lame)
[19:07] <eye-zak> queso: since upgrade have you run aptitude and purged all local/obsolete packages ??
[19:07] <NimbleRabit> phlak_user, The options are Analog and Analog (LFE) and neither one worked.  It still acts as if the speakers are locked even though they aren't.
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: smplayer uses qt so will pull in lots of deps
[19:07] <D0C_> so im not the only one with sound issues in 10.04 ?
[19:08] <pokeh> Next question: How can I execute a script via a mouse button?
[19:08] <phlak_user> greezmunkey: modprobe -v module_name
[19:08] <karim_> It's unusual that the liveCD has graphic and NIC drivers but when ubuntu 10.04 is installed it doesn't come with them. Not that I'm complaining or anything.
[19:08] <queso> eye-zak: nope, how do I do that?
[19:08] <eye-zak> D0C_: not by a long shot
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: UT8F: I use gnome-mplayer as mplayer is one of the oldest and most respected players
[19:08] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:08] <eye-zak> queso: run sudo aptitude in a terminal
[19:08] <phlak_user> pokeh: click
[19:08] <eye-zak> queso: there is a section on obsolete and locally created packages
[19:08] <D0C_> eye-zak: any quick fixes at this point or is it dependant on the issues?
[19:08] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: -v is verbose, so really modprobe {module name} would work !!??
[19:08] <joe_> dipu_ : I used to use BT4 Final so I am not used to being a normal user. Now That I can see the drive in there with the partitions, and I was using the correct /dev, what would be the issue?
[19:08] <Tazer> Rhythmbox works pretty well for me now that I have visualization(ProjectM!!)
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: if you use gnome-mplayer you wont have to pull in a tonne of kde rubbis just for the sake of a gui :)
[19:09] <phlak_user> greezmunkey: yes; plus it also tells you it worked
[19:09] <Oddfellows> Repost from other channel:
[19:09] <queso> eye-zak: Actions -> Clean obsolete files ?
 I have this error whenever I install something from the CPAN shell "Using Tar:/bin/tar xvf "DateTime-0.55.tar":
 Couldn't untar DateTime-0.55.tar
 ". Can you help me?
 Thanks in advance.
[19:09] <FloodBot3> Oddfellows: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <eye-zak> queso: assuming you didn't install custom packages purge all of them with _
[19:09] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip: i used to but this looks better :)
[19:09] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: that's counter intuitive, thanks :)
[19:09] <eye-zak> queso: ctrl-T activates the menu, purge from the packages menu is what u want
[19:10]  * Macharo is now away: root[at]localhost
[19:10] <chegney> so I'm at the software selection screen, If I just want a minimal system with X gnome gdm and openbox, what should I do next?
[19:10] <eye-zak> queso: there is a simple way to do it for all of them using dpkg-query to return a list of all old/stale packages but i don't remember how
[19:10] <phlak_user> Oddfellows: you could also try manually by going into .cpan/build
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: your call, just try to keep data down as space may not be a luxury to the user
[19:10] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, where can I download a transparent (preferably png) image of ubuntu's 10.04 icon? I want to put a "coded on Ubuntu" link on my website.
[19:10] <plouffe> what's a good site for hardware testing for linux?
[19:10] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: you know, I did that before asking...I took the insmod line as an error!
[19:10] <queso> eye-zak: says something about diffutils being an essential package, do I want to purge it
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !away > Macharo
[19:10] <dipu_> joe_ i am not an expert ..there are others in this forum who can def help ... please address everyone
[19:10] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip: i know but the OP might have some use for that
[19:10] <karim_> I/O error, dev sr0, sector 437628
[19:10] <phlak_user> greezmunkey: duh
[19:10] <Oddfellows> phlak_user: I just want that sweet, sweet dependancy resolution.
[19:10] <eye-zak> queso: only packages under 'Obsolete and Locally Created Packages'
[19:10] <chegney> should I just not select anything and continue with base install for now?
[19:11] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: I told you it was lame :)
[19:11] <dshbusiness> queso: Well. Usually, checking the user permission would help. I had met the problem just like yours. I fixed it by edit user permission configuration. But my system configuration is disarrayed after that.
[19:11] <phlak_user> greezmunkey: lame is an encoder :)
[19:11] <D0C_> ill see what I can come up with... and drop back in later guys
[19:11] <beij> karim_,  are wondering why there is a IO error?
[19:11] <eye-zak> chegney: always the best option to install base system first
[19:11] <jessid> phlak_user yes, for example the volume fn key work well
[19:11] <enrico_> ciao belli
[19:12] <phlak_user> jessid: oh ok
[19:12] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: ...then I encode lameness I guess
[19:12] <phlak_user> jessid: what model of toshiba?
[19:12] <karim_> No It's because files couldn't get accessed on the disk,  right?
[19:12] <Vinky> phlak_user,  Ill check it out thanks
[19:12] <joe_> Attempting to mount a hard drive and failing, line being used is as follows: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdf1 /home/joe/dad/   .   Any ideas?
[19:13] <jessid> phlak_user satellite U505 S2930
[19:13] <greezmunkey> Holy Crap - I made my speaker work! Thanks phlak_user.
[19:13] <dshbusiness> queso: Oh, I forget it. can you play a mp3 as administrator?
[19:13] <wzssyqa_> joe_: sdf?
[19:13] <phlak_user> joe_: why are you using that line to mount?
[19:13] <phlak_user> greezmunkey: yw
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> joe_: does  the mount point exist?
[19:13] <queso> dshbusiness: I can play any audio, the only time I have trouble sometimes is while my wife is also logged in.
[19:13] <joe_> wzssyqa_: yup
[19:13] <wzssyqa_> joe_: a rich man
[19:14] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: now I want to tie that to my indicator applet, I'll be back if I have trouble.
[19:14] <joe_> phlak_user: Is not not the line to use?
[19:14] <queso> eye-zak: I've installed paprefs and am checking the "Make discoverable PulseAudio network sound devices available locally" . . maybe that's all I needed
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> joe_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[19:14] <joe_> ActionParsnip: Yes it does
[19:14] <beij> karim_, yes
[19:15] <queso> eye-zak, dshbusiness: thanks for your help!
[19:15] <eye-zak> queso: no, wront option .. next page "Network Server"
[19:15] <mv0> isnt it sda?
[19:15] <queso> eye-zak: heh, okay, I'll do that one :)
[19:15] <eye-zak> queso: "enable network access to local sound devices"
[19:15] <phlak_user> joe_: just curious to know how you knew that /dev/sdf1 was the device you wanted to mount
[19:15] <eye-zak> queso: you can use the 1st option on your wife's user to connect to your user's server
[19:16] <joe_> phlak_user: Combination of Disk utility and fdisk output.
[19:16] <phlak_user> joe_: normally, i would look at dmesg as soon as I plugged in the drive to see what /dev/sd it got registered as
[19:16] <karim_> I didn't wait for the bit where it says press enter to reboot is that bad?
[19:16] <eye-zak> qeso: that way it will look to her like a local sound card
[19:16] <queso> eye-zak: how do I know who starts the server?  whoever was the first to log in?
[19:16] <beij> sdf1? 6 harddrives? O.o
[19:17] <eye-zak> queso: they both will, there is an option to run pulseaudio as a system service, but otoh i don't know how to configure it completely
[19:17] <joe_> phlak_user: You can do it both ways. I just cannot seem to get it to mount properly, and Ubuntu does not see it in the GUI.
[19:17] <phlak_user> joe_: is it an internal drive or an external one?
[19:17] <eye-zak> queso: they will compete, which i believe is your problem, but the 1st one should be dominant
[19:17] <queso> eye-zak: So I shouldn't be running paprefs as root?
[19:17] <wzssyqa_> joe_: try gparted
[19:18] <coppy> Is there a way to change the default O/S to boot into in grub 2?
[19:18] <eye-zak> queso: the system service runs as special user, not root
[19:18] <mefiX> hey guys, does someone know about issues with emacs23 under ubuntu lucid? i get some weird graphics problems!?
[19:18] <joe_> phlak_user: It is a drive from a laptop that I have PATA -> USB convert for.
[19:18] <eye-zak> queso: in /etc/default/pulseaudio PUSLEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START=1 will start a system mode
[19:18] <karim_> I got a problem with sound effects not sounding when they are meant to!
[19:18] <wzssyqa_> coppy: /etc/default/grub
[19:18] <joe_> wzssyqa_: I will look into it, why am I rich btw?
[19:19] <phlak_user> jessid: there seems to be aknown bug with acpi in lucid; my laptop (eeepc) worked when i added the acpi_os=linux to the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:19] <eye-zak> queso: if you do that you will need to disable pulseaudo autospawn (not sure exactly how)
[19:19] <LoC_> Spricht jemand Deutsch?
[19:19] <Oddfellows> Is there a package for CPANPLUS?
[19:19] <wzssyqa_> joe_: you have 6 disks attached to you pc,at same time
[19:19] <eye-zak> queso: also, you may need to set some options in /etc/pulse/system.pa
[19:19] <queso> eye-zak: intwesting.  I'll try what you've suggested and see if that works.  if I have a problem, I'll look in the pulseaudio docs.  thanks again for your help.
[19:19] <phlak_user> Oddfellows: you install it from within cpan i think
[19:20] <phlak_user> !de| LoC_
[19:20] <joe_> wzssyqa_: I have one of those micro card readers lol.
[19:20] <Oddfellows> But CPAN is Borked.
[19:20] <coppy> wzssyga, There is no file "grub" in /etc/default
[19:20] <Hilikus> hey guys. is there some way to capture a video stream?
[19:20] <ganesh_> hi! m using ubuntu 10.04..hav a hell of problem connecting i'net using mobile broadband for my 3g usb modem..any help pls
[19:20] <un214> coppy must still have grub legacy
[19:20] <phlak_user> Oddfellows: you can even download it and install separately from cpan.org
[19:20] <Sonsee> does kde4 NOT support socks5 !!! ???
[19:21] <Oddfellows> kk
[19:21] <phlak_user> ganesh_: what operator?
[19:21] <jessid> phlak_user ah, so let me try that.... i will reboot and let you know!!! ;)
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Sonsee:  perhaps ask in #kubuntu
[19:21] <mefiX> this is what my emacs looks like in lucid: http://img532.imageshack.us/i/weirdemacs.png/ (note the text in the minibuffer and other graphic errors)
[19:21] <phlak_user> jessid: ok
[19:21] <ganesh_> phlak_use BSNL India
[19:21] <joe_> ActionParsnip: The utility within the link you provided does not see the drive, it does see all of the other NTFS drives. I believe that the drive that I am working on has a corrupted MBR. Not to sure if this would affect the usage of the tool or not.
[19:21] <ganesh_> phlak_user  BSNL India
[19:21] <discozohan> where is default PATH configuration ? I have defined $PATH variable, but nothing in ~/.bashrc
[19:21] <vlt> Hilikus: ffmpeg
[19:21] <phlak_user> ganesh_: and the make of the 3g card?
[19:21] <coppy> un214, I'm running 9.10 and I want to change the default O/S
[19:22] <un214> discozohan: check /etc/profile
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> discozohan:  you could grep the files in /etc/ and find out. :)
[19:22] <ganesh_> phlak_user MICROMAX MMX 300G
[19:22] <wzssyqa_> discozohan: echo $PATH
[19:22] <Hilikus> vlt: will it capture the whole screen or what?
[19:22] <The_Wanderer> Hi, can someone tell me how i can configure DNS in ubuntu lucid?
 and? -.-
[19:22] <un214> beats the heck outta me
[19:22] <karim_> coppy you don't/can't change the default (well there is no standard way to) but you could...
[19:22] <phlak_user> ganesh_: did you look here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1365524
[19:22] <vlt> Hilikus: It will capture from a video device. A webcam for instance.
[19:23] <un214> I got really annoyed when the broke editing /etc/resolv.conf
[19:23] <wzssyqa_> The_Wanderer: /etc/resolve.conf
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> discozohan:  looks like /etc/enviroment perhaps :)
[19:23] <coppy> karim, can you or can
[19:23] <Hilikus> vlt: no, i want to capture a stream from a website. its a webcast
[19:23] <NET||abuse> hi folks, i'm having a challenge, on a windows machine here, have my laptop which is ubuntu 10.04, the only net connection here is a three(3) network   Huawei E1550 mobile connect
, yeah, you are right, thanks ;)
[19:23] <NET||abuse> anyone know how to get it to connect on my laptop?
[19:23] <oldhp> i need help compiling wireless drivers, it's asking me pcmcia-cs source dir []:  I don't know where that is!
[19:24] <coppy> karim, can you or cant you? If so, can you point me to the right place?
[19:24] <phlak_user> coppy: karim_ you can go to /etc/grub.d and change whatever and then run update-grub2
[19:24] <un214> the only reason I run ubuntu is for apt-get
[19:24] <vlt> Hilikus: Then just save the stream to disk. I think mplayer can do that for you.
[19:24] <coppy> phlak_user, what file do I change in there?
[19:24] <un214> I'm thinking of yanking ownership of the core services and giving them to another distro
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> I run Ubuntu - because it impresses the ladies... :)
[19:24] <franc> Dr_Willis: lol
[19:25] <karim_> for me it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg and then change some text around
[19:25] <oldhp> i need help compiling wireless drivers, it's asking me pcmcia-cs source dir []:  I don't know where that is!
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> !find pcmcia-cs
[19:25] <The_Wanderer> wzssyqa_, hi there is no file called resolve.conf but theres one called resolv.conf is it the one?
[19:25] <phlak_user> coppy: generally 10_linux contains all the stuff about the linux kernels
[19:25] <ganesh_> phlak_user ..i did all those things mentioned there, except i tried using mobile brand to use instead of wvdial
[19:25] <un214> The_Wonderer, it's there but if you edit it it gets reset the next time you boot
[19:25] <wzssyqa_> The_Wanderer: resolv,conf
[19:26] <wzssyqa_> or something like this
[19:26] <joe_> wzssyqa_: Thanks for the information, but gparted does not see it either.
[19:26] <vlt> The_Wanderer: /etc/resolv.conf
[19:26] <jessid> phlak_user i cant see any line with kernel word... did you mean linux line????
[19:26] <Amicose> Hi. I'r running Parallells 3.0 on osx 10.5.8. I tried to install ubuntu 10.04; however at the point when it should be welcoming to my new desktop, it puts itself in this awful loop that involves bongos and what appears to be a red cross in a circle - this only flashes up on screen for a second.
[19:26] <oldhp> Dr_Willis: So I can't install this?
[19:26] <phlak_user> ganesh_: the main thing is that did you get the mode change bit properly? does your dmesg show the /dev/ttyUSB lines?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> oldhp:  no idea what it is or where it comes from
[19:26] <petsounds> hi all. how can i get rid ubuntu boot screen and change it to normal text? thanks
[19:26] <The_Wanderer> wzssyqa_, thanks a lot i see it, i just put the new DNS ones after the nameserver tag?
[19:26] <vlt> The_Wanderer: But assure that no tool like dhcp-client is writing to that file too
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> oldhp:  for all we know the driuvers you are trying to compile may be very old...
[19:27] <oldhp> Dr_Willis: One  moment, and yes they are old 2001
[19:27] <wzssyqa_> The_Wanderer: yes
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> petsounds:  use the 'text' option to totally disable  the screens. but that also stops gdm :)
[19:27] <eye-zak> petsounds: edit /etc/default grub and remove splash, then run update-grub to make perminant
[19:27] <phlak_user> jessid: yes the linux line (my bad ; still suffering from grub)
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> oldhp:  I think you may want to look for newer drivers/guides
[19:27] <ganesh_> phlak_user not sure about that
[19:27] <coppy> phlak_user, I see nothing in there that shows O/S info
[19:27] <chuy_max> can I set up ubuntu as so to start windows by default instead of ubuntu¿
[19:27] <oldhp> Dr_Willis: http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/WPC11/download version 1
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> oldhp:  that would be 9 years..  :)
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> WPC11? i think i had one of those years and years ago that worked fine.
[19:28] <jessid> phlak_user ney man thanks a lot! I will try this and will let you know
[19:28] <petsounds> Dr_Willis, eye-zak Merci beaucoup :)
[19:28] <xuli> chuy_max: Check out grub.conf
[19:28] <jessid> phlak_user thanks again
[19:28] <oldhp> Dr_Willis: This is the only driver there is for this card
[19:28] <phlak_user> coppy: the entries there create a file called grub.cfg in /boot/grub/
[19:28] <phlak_user> jessid: yw
[19:28] <chuy_max> xuli, Im using Ubuntu 10.04
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> oldhp:  if i recall that card had different 'versions' that had different drivers.
[19:28] <wzssyqa_> chuy_max: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[19:28] <eye-zak> chuy_max: it's grub's DEFAULT=N where N is the index of windows in grub's list (starting at 0) in /etc/default/grub i think
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> oldhp:  that depended on the exact chipset in the card
[19:28] <The_Wanderer> vlt, how do i ensure no other file is using it? will the DHCP replace the file if i change it? heres the thing i used namebench to find that google open DNS is much faster than my default one, so i want to change it. but i couldnt find a gui way to do it, i thik a tool for that was present in UBUNTU 9.04. but i cant find it now
[19:28] <Amicose> OK what's the protocol here for getting help with problems you hardly know how to describe?
[19:28] <coppy> phlak_user, so then what do i change?
[19:29] <oldhp> Dr_Willis: My card is version 1
[19:29] <Hilikus> vlt how do i point mplayer to that stream though? i access it through a website
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> chuy_max:  theres a tool called 'startupmanager' i recall that can select the default os  to boot with a gui.
[19:29] <phlak_user> !grub2 | coppy
[19:29] <chuy_max> eye-zak, do you know if this  value will be overwritten when I do an upgrade?
[19:29] <wzssyqa_> coppy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:29] <phlak_user> wzssyqa_: not anymore; that was grub; lucid now uses grub2
[19:29] <wzssyqa_> coppy: default=
[19:29] <chuy_max> Dr_Willis, I think I used it in the past, but it worked for grub1
[19:29] <eye-zak> chuy_max: no, if it's in /etc/default/grub it willbe saved
[19:30] <vlt> The_Wanderer: Do you use DHCP?
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> chuy_max:  its been updated recently - i tried it out the other day :)
[19:30] <chuy_max> awesome, let me check it out
[19:30] <ganesh_> phlak_user where did i go wrong
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> chuy_max:  it still dosent have all the features it needs for 10.04 - but it can do some things
[19:30] <coppy> wzssyga, ok
[19:30] <The_Wanderer> vlt, yes i do. i have a new gear wireless router with DHCP turned on
[19:31] <wzssyqa_> phlak_user: coppy is using grub
[19:31] <vlt> Hilikus: You have to find out the URL of the video. Maybe have a look at the HTML source code of that website.
[19:31] <ryankrizan> Hey guys, got a couple questions. My nephew has a Dell Mini 10v. He wants Ubuntu. Should I install Ubuntu 10.04 or the Netbook remix? Whats your opinions?
[19:31] <karim_> coppy here it is: http://ubuntuguide.net/3-ways-setting-xpvistawindows-7-as-default-bootup-os-in-grub-2
[19:31] <Synyster> The memory test in the LiveCD, does it have a defined end, or does it repeat indefinitely?
[19:31] <phlak_user> ganesh_: i dont know; unless you managed to change mode from storage to modem using usb_serial, it will never work
[19:31] <coppy> karim, thanks
[19:31] <karim_> it depend of which version of grub you have
[19:31] <vlt> The_Wanderer: Use the supersede option in dhcp.conf (there should be an example line)
[19:32] <The_Wanderer> vlt,  thanks for the info lemme check
[19:32] <phlak_user> ryankrizan: if he is a new user then the netbook version
[19:32] <phlak_user> wzssyqa_: oh ok didnt know that
[19:32] <F4RR4R> Anyone know how to set up an icecast server that streams mp3s in ubuntu server 10.04?
[19:32] <ganesh_> phlak_user i did manage to change mode ..at the moment i m using the same modem ...but the problem is tat mobile broadband dosnt start automatically nor do i get an option to connect manually depsite of modem being plugged in
[19:33] <chuy_max> ok, let's see if it works
[19:33] <thomas_> is there a tool for ubuntu to inspect objects ... equivalent to Active Accessibility 2.0 SDK tools?
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> F4RR4R:  install one of the icecast servers.. configure it.. run it..
[19:34] <The_Wanderer> vlt, do u mean /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf?
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> !info icecast-server
[19:34] <fqh> Hi all, did anyone ever meet a ubuntu/debian-based distribution that can sudo without typing password?  Tonight I meet that one named YLMF-OS. haha~~
[19:34] <wzssyqa_> fqh: ,,,,,,
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> fqh:  you can configure sudo to do specific commands with out sudo password if you wanted.
[19:34] <Hilikus> vlt: ok, i'll try to do that. is mplayer installed by default on ubuntu?
[19:34] <ikonia> fqh: that is noting to do with ubuntu
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> fqh:  you could set it to do all commands without password.
[19:34] <vlt> The_Wanderer: Yes
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> theres a LOT more to sudo then 'what you stick of the front of a command to do system stuff' :)
[19:35] <wzssyqa_> fqh: live CD of ubunt dont need
[19:35] <phlak_user> ganesh_:  if you send the parameters to the kernel at boot time and then insert the modem, network manager will detect it and you can connect from there
[19:36] <vlt> Hilikus: Don't know. But it's  as easy as `aptitude install mplayer`
[19:36] <Hilikus> vlt: perfect, thanks a lot
[19:36] <ganesh_> phlak_user pl guide me in tat case
[19:36] <efe> I need help with my ubuntu. i can not open java applet like this >> http://supremosforever.tripod.com .  any ideas? thanks
[19:37] <somecake> Hi
[19:37] <mv0> hi is there a quick way to find out missing packages when building something?
[19:37] <somecake> How can I install 32bit flash on 64bit ubuntu lucid?
[19:37] <ikonia> efe: you probably have a java plugin that's not compatible
[19:37] <yosi1234> anyone here using a LSI 9260 RAID card in ubuntu?
[19:37] <mv0> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[19:37] <mv0> No package 'gthread-2.0' found
[19:37] <ikonia> mv0: reading the documentation of the package you're trying ot read
[19:37] <mv0> like how do i fix that for ubuntu
[19:37] <ikonia> mv0: also that error is quite clear what's missing
[19:37] <ikonia> mv0: what are you trying to build
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> efe:  it works here.
[19:38] <mv0> Cairo Dock
[19:38] <sebsebseb> Hi
[19:38] <yosi1234> just wondering if the LSI RAID card is compatible with ubuntu, no drivers for ubuntu on their website
[19:38] <wzssyqa_> somecake: flashplugin-nonfree
[19:38] <mv0> But i mean like
[19:38] <mv0> it says gtk2.0
[19:38] <mv0> but i do apt-get install gtk2.0 and its not there
[19:38] <mv0> how do i find the proper names
[19:38] <fqh> Dr_Willis: Oh, sudo without password in default configution could not lead to security problem?
[19:38] <mv0> for the packages
[19:38] <mv0> its probably gtk-devel or somethin
[19:38] <phlak_user> mv0: sudo apt- cache search gtk
[19:38] <ikonia> mv0: cario doc is in the repos
[19:38] <phlak_user> mv0: sudo apt-cache search gtk
[19:38] <ikonia> !info cariodock
[19:39] <ikonia> !info cario-dock
[19:39] <phlak_user> ikonia: cairodock
[19:39] <ikonia> ughhh
[19:39] <ikonia> thank you
[19:39] <ikonia> mv0: you don't need to build it, it's in the repo's just insall it
[19:39] <_buck> Hi, I wanted to know ho to send notification to  ubuntu's notificatio system to display.
[19:39] <yosi1234> Also, is there a big performance difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu-Server for LAMP?   I'm new to linux and like the desktop version, if I use it as a server, am I taking a big performance hit??
[19:39] <efe> ikonia: does it works in your pc?
[19:39] <mv0> yea tha tmakes sense
[19:39] <mv0> but just for next time
[19:39] <ikonia> efe: don't know - not tried it
[19:39] <mv0> apt-cache search *?
[19:40] <trism> _buck: install libnotify-bin and you can use the notify-send command line client
[19:40] <ikonia> mv0: read the documentation for the package you're tyring to install, it calls out the dependencies normally
[19:40] <mv0> ok
[19:40] <mv0> ty
[19:40] <vlt> yosi1234: Hardware and driver management is done by the linux kernel. If it's supported by that it should work in nearly any distribution
[19:40] <_buck> trism: okay thanks
[19:40] <The_Wanderer_> vlt, http://pastebin.com/S0tFpkXA thats the content of the file, what do i need to change ? i need to set my DNS to <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> respectively
[19:40] <yosi1234> vlt: thanks, what linux kernal is in 10.04?
[19:41] <dancek> yosi1234, it all depends on the hardware and usage, but if you're not creating a production server then it'll probably be just fine
[19:41] <Vinky> yosi1234, currently 2.6.32
[19:41] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: you need to insert those lines into /etc/resolv.conf (or into the appropriate profile in NetworkManager)
[19:41] <tripelb> Transmission will not download my ubuntu. Permission denied. Help please. (someone now gone) asked if I have ownership and write permission. I seem to. (went to properties for the hard drive. besides, I'm the only user and I just mounted the hard drive. what's not to have permissions for?)
[19:41] <abcxyz> SOS: Tried to "safely remove" my external hard disk and the window "Writing data to "Passport (my hd)" " seemed to go on forever so I closed it and tried to unmount. It gave an error "device busy" and now there's nothing visible (not even with CTRL-H) in Ext HD. However, it's showing correct free space. Please help.
[19:41] <vlt> yosi1234: AFAIK the server edition just doesn't install any X related apps. Your server apps will be the very same in both versions.
[19:42] <vlt> yosi1234: 2.6.3x
[19:42] <phlak_user> abcxyz: is it an NTFS partition?
[19:42] <abcxyz> phlak_user: yes
[19:42] <list> :q
[19:42] <yosi1234> dancek: it is a production server, with a 20mbs connection to it, with over 15,000 concurrent connections
[19:42] <tripelb> How can I fix this? I want to make a 9.10 LiveCd.
[19:43] <phlak_user> abcxyz: you need to run it in a windoze machine and run chkdsk on it
[19:43] <dancek> yosi1234, well why'd you want X on it then?
[19:43] <phlak_user> abcxyz: or use the force option in mount
[19:43] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, i was told by vlt to change the dhclient.conf file since i use DHCP. i dont seem to have network manager installed
[19:43] <somecake> wzssyqa_, flashplugin-nonfree is a transitional package.
[19:43] <abcxyz> phlak_user: will chkdsk erase data?
[19:44] <yosi1234> dancek: I came from the windows world for 10 years, i feel ok in a CLI, but prefer the guy for stuff like SQL tables, raid controller gui, etc...
[19:44] <yosi1234> GUI*
[19:44] <dancek> yosi1234, there are also some security considerations that make desktops and servers different though i don't know if ubuntu server edition really takes them into account
[19:44] <phlak_user> abcxyz: dunno mate; mr gates wouldve designed it properly
[19:44] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, that data dump is from the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file
[19:44] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: i know but thats not where you should change it; how does your network come up btw
[19:44] <frojnd> Oh no :( I just upgraded from 8.4 to 10.4 LTS without problems and now when I reboot. I can see those dots and then... monitor bliks and nothing... :( I can't see anything  Ican't wake up monitor and I Can see computer is running. What's  going on? Please help
[19:44] <frojnd> oh now computer just shutdown
[19:44] <frojnd> :(
[19:45] <efe> it doesn't work :( http://supremosforever.tripod.com :-(
[19:45] <eGe> frojnd: many people got the same issui .
[19:45] <abcxyz> phlak_user: oh... i don';t know why suddenly that "data writing" took so long today.. I have been using same drive for almost 10 months and mainly in Ubuntu.. for last 2-3 months it has not seen any other OS or computer...
[19:45] <yosi1234> dancek: when I check the ubuntu FAQ, it says the kernal on server is optimized for serving (whatever that means), but I can't imagine with modern fast processors how much overhead a GUI would place on the system
[19:45] <dancek> yosi1234, well you'll probably administrate the server remotely anyway. just use the gui apps to connect to the server (e.g. pgadmin to a postgresql server running on the physical server)
[19:45] <shazzr> gshelton: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/nnbmlagghjjcbdhgmkedmbmedengocbn?hl=en
[19:46] <eGe> frojnd: whats your video card?
[19:46] <frojnd> eGe: did they find the solution how to boot into ubuntu?
[19:46] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, well i have a broadband connection. i connect to the internet using the net gear wireless router, which in turn is connected to a beetel router provided by my isp
[19:46] <yosi1234> dancek: you are right, once its configured it is going to be sitting in out data center...
[19:46] <frojnd> eGe: Intel 82865g
[19:46] <kzman> hello, how can i enable write permissions in samba?
[19:46] <uLinux> :( Network Manager keeps messing with /etc/network/interfaces configuration
[19:46] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: oh ok, how does your PC/laptop connect?
[19:46] <yosi1234> dancek:   is there a way to Remote GUI, into a box setup without a GUI?
[19:46] <eGe> frojnd: many of them they that find sollution . but me No
[19:47]  * phlak_user wonders what a beetel router is
[19:47] <eGe> frojnd: what video card? NvidiA?
[19:47] <frojnd> eGe: did they add somethin into grub menu?
[19:47] <phlak_user> yosi1234: VNC
[19:47] <frojnd> eGe: intel integrated Intel 82865g
[19:47] <phlak_user> !info tightvnc
[19:47] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user,  my laptop connects throught the wireless router, i am sorry but i dont know if i am giving u the right info
[19:48] <local> hi guys, does anyone know what package on 10.4 has the gtk1 dev libs in it?
[19:48] <eGe> frojnd: fix your xorg.conf file.
[19:48] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: you must be connecting to the router using wifi right? what app are you using for that? most of us use the default NetworkManager
[19:48] <frojnd> eGe: like how? it won't even boot
[19:48] <dancek> yosi1234, on an app-specific level, there often is (like sql tools), but not in general
[19:48] <yosi1234> I use to use VNC on windows, but doesn't the machine your are VNCing into have to have a gui...?   for example if i put a UBUNTU SERVER into the datacenter and at my office have ubuntu desktop edition, can they connect over VNC?
[19:48] <frojnd> eGe: afaik ubuntu 10.4 doesn't come with xorg.conf iirc
[19:48] <reya2276> can anyone tell me why my Ubuntu freezes when I'm using Eclipse? I mean the mouse stops working I can't click anywhere only the damn keyboard works
[19:48] <greezmunkey> would someone call me by name to test my indicator - TIA
[19:48] <abcxyz> phlak_user: Hey, just went to System>Admin>Disk-Utility and clicked "mount" for my ext-hard disk and it's mounted. And yes, I can see my files. Should I now Unmount or not? It's taking a lot of time today. Should I simply shutdown the system?
[19:48] <phlak_user> yosi1234: nope; thats the best part..
[19:49] <local> greezmunkey
[19:49] <vlt> yosi1234: vncserver (or `ssh -X`, but that's not that convenient)
[19:49] <eGe> frojnd: recovery drop into tty
[19:49] <chilipep4> hello.  anybody use pidgin?  how to make it so that upon connection some command is performed (e.g. /join #ubuntu)?
[19:49] <phlak_user> greezmunkey: ?
[19:49] <yosi1234> dancek:  good point, i could just use specific apps, with remote IP access..
[19:49] <greezmunkey> Thanks - works!
[19:49] <frojnd> eGe: ok
[19:49] <frojnd> what next?
[19:49] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, i m not really sure, i think i am using the default network manager
[19:49] <phlak_user> abcxyz: take a backup and then unmount
[19:49] <mrwes> Seems when I hot swap my extra battery out for my DVD combo drive I have to reboot for the drive to work; anyone else have a setup like that on a laptop?
[19:49] <uLinux> Why Network Manager keeps using ethernet?
[19:49] <frojnd> eGe: what next?
[19:50] <eGe> frojnd: become root nano /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[19:50] <yosi1234> you guys must be pulling my leg or something, you are telling me I can VNC, into a box without a GUI?
[19:50] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: ok, then why do you need to add extra dns entries?
[19:50] <xangua> chilipep4: set your favorite channels in your buddy list to autojoin
[19:50] <frojnd> eGe: done
[19:50] <abcxyz> phlak_user: :( that's my backup HD. Haven't got anythin else. Anyway, I will backup important files.
[19:50] <phlak_user> mrwes: just unplug it and plug it in again
[19:50] <yosi1234> phlak: what will show up the CLI or a GUI on my end?
[19:50] <vlt> yosi1234: vncserver is not the same as VNC on Windows. On linux you run (several) vncserver instance(s).
[19:50] <eGe> frojnd: tell me what your xorg writting about your device
[19:50] <phlak_user> yosi1234: this is linux not windows o_O
[19:50] <reya2276>
[19:50] <reya2276> yosi1234: no they are not pulling your leg thay just hate GUIs
[19:51] <mrwes> phlak_user, you mean the drive?
[19:51] <dancek> yosi1234, of course you need xorg if you want vnc
[19:51] <phlak_user> yosi1234: GUI (default wm would be flux i think)
[19:51] <mrwes> phlak_user, it's a modular drive
[19:51] <frojnd> eGe: Section "Device" Identifier "Configured VIdeo Device" EndSection
[19:51] <phlak_user> mrwes: the DVD drive yes
[19:51] <frojnd> eGe: Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" EndSection
[19:51] <yosi1234> interesting....
[19:51] <eGe> frojnd: driver?
[19:51] <phlak_user> mrwes: you said it had batteries right?
[19:51] <mrwes> hrmm
[19:51] <chilipep4> xangua: um, ok, and i put "/join #ubuntu" as a "buddy", or something?
[19:51] <dancek> yosi1234, or rather if you want to use vnc to get into a xorg desktop
[19:51] <frojnd> eGe: nothing no driver
[19:52] <yosi1234> then i might aswell, run the Ubuntu Server edition if I can VNC in...
[19:52] <reya2276> yosi1234: but yes you can you just have to make sure the PC on the other end is already logged in to a session or else it wont allow you to login with the GUI as far as I know
[19:52] <mrwes> phlak_user, no, I'm swapping the modular battery for the DVD drive
[19:52] <vlt> yosi1234: You need to have vncserver installed there. And if you want to use gui tools you need to install them too ;-)
[19:52] <phlak_user> reya2276: thats not correct
[19:52] <xangua> chilipep4: friends>add a chat
[19:52] <xangua> to add your favorite channels
[19:52] <yosi1234> dancek: is the xorg desktop the same as ubuntu desktop edition
[19:52] <phlak_user> mrwes: how is the dvd drive connected
[19:52] <karim_> uLinux maybe you have to disconnect the Ethernet cable to start using something else.
[19:52] <eGe> frojnd: write driver   "vesa" or 'glx"
[19:52] <phlak_user> !vnc
[19:52] <chilipep4> xangua: ha, ok, great, thanks!
[19:53] <dancek> yosi1234, it's the software that implements the X client/server that the GUI is based on
[19:53] <eGe> frojnd: cntl+o cntl+x
[19:53] <mrwes> phlak_user, it's modular, it goes in the same slot the battery came out of -- we're on a laptop FYI
[19:53] <frojnd> eGe: ok
[19:53] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user,  i right clicked on the network connection in the system tray and select "edit connection". in the wireless tab i choose my connection and choose "edit". but i dont see any place where i can add dns. i see 4 tabs wireless, wireless security, IPv4 settings and ipv6 settings. am i looking at the wrong place?
[19:53] <eGe> frojnd: reboot
[19:53] <dancek> yosi1234, normally you'd want to avoid having xorg on a network server
[19:53] <phlak_user> mrwes: oh ok
[19:53] <mrwes> :)
[19:54] <eGe> frojnd: you ll be in a low graphic mode with the motherboards graphics
[19:54] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: you need to select the profile that you are connected with in "Wireless"; typically it is the ssid of the router
[19:54] <dancek> yosi1234, so it's not ubuntu desktop in its entirety, but a part that was left out of the server edition on purpose
[19:54] <vlt> yosi1234: Just install vncserver. (and what reya2276 said is not quite correct)
[19:54] <reya2276> phlak_user: what is not correct? I have tried to login to PCs and if the PC on the other end is not logged in to a session it will not allow me to login on the remote machine with a GUI through CLI yes but not GUI unless you know something I don't please share
[19:54] <yosi1234> dancek: everyone keep son saying to avoid gui's on network servers...  but I don't see why the big issue with in for over 6 years I have been running windows servers rock solid with guis with no hiccups?
[19:54] <phlak_user> reya2276: thats true only for VNC on windows; on linux, its a separate session that gets created
[19:54] <Scunizi> to manually set a static IP address are there any additional files to edit other than /etc/network/interfaces and etc/resolv.conf?
[19:54] <Greblok> Hi all. I'm trying to use CompizConfig to start Empathy in the second desktop. Evolution and others start on the correct desktop, but not empathy. Could you help me find the Window ID for this?
[19:55] <eGe> frojnd: ????
[19:55] <frojnd> eGe: what if glx won't work?
[19:55] <vlt> yosi1234: And you don't need to run an X serve on the server. You need one on your side to be able to display the remotely generated screen. (Or windows and its equivalent ;-)
[19:55] <frojnd> eGe: I put there glx
[19:55] <frojnd> eGe: so I won't be able to watch movies?
[19:55] <eGe> frojnd: "vesa"?
[19:55] <frojnd> eGe: will try now
[19:55]  * phlak_user didnt realize how hard the windows-doors migration is...
[19:55] <yosi1234> vlt: is that a better method than running Ubuntu Desktop on the server itself?
[19:55] <eGe> frojnd: yes if we can fix ti :)
[19:55] <frojnd> eGe: glx won't work
[19:56] <reya2276> phlak_user: ah OK so your telling that if I try to login to my work PC from here through the Ubuntu remote desktop it will let me? No I don't think so because I have tried several time. And yes both this PC and the work PC run Ubuntu 10.04
[19:56] <dancek> yosi1234, it has to do with security and memory usage. you don't want extra stuff on a server since that increases the risks of exploits, and running a GUI can easily take up 200+MB ram and some cpu
[19:56] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, yes i chose the connection that had the SSID and chose edit but i dont see where i can add dns server. in the IPv4 setting that comes up i can only set one DNS that too if i use manual method to connect and not DHCP
[19:56] <eGe> frojnd:  insert "vesa" i got nvidia "nv"
[19:56] <phlak_user> reya2276: thats because you are probably using vino; install vnc-server and then try again
[19:56] <Cynthia> Greblok: 'xwininfo' in a terminal, then click Empathy
[19:56] <eGe> frojnd: i don't now your card
[19:56] <yosi1234> dancek:  I see what you mean.....
[19:56] <karthik> hi .. I want  to draw multiple squares on a pic .. how can I do it using gimp ?
[19:57] <Scunizi> yosi1234: it's not an issue of stability, it's an issue of resources and changing the kernel.  when you install the desktop you also install the desktop kernel.. it's not optimized for server use although it does function fine for most home users.
[19:57] <yosi1234> I guess that why windows server is soo memory hungry etc.....
[19:57] <vlt> yosi1234: We need to be more precise here: What application do you want to run on the server you need GUI access to?
[19:57] <Cynthia> karthik: rectangle selection, Select / Border -> 1 pixel, Edit/Fill with foreground color (Ctrl+,)
[19:57] <eGe> frojnd: ???
[19:57] <Vinky> how/where can I check which repo a package is in?
[19:57] <reya2276> But back to my original question, Is there a reason why my mouse stops responding when I'm using eclipse, my OS freezes and then only my keyboard works? I have an Nvidia card running compiz
[19:57] <vlt> Scunizi: What's the difference between the -generic and the -server kernels?
[19:57] <Cynthia> karthik: you can then move the square you made to other places to make more copies of them
[19:57] <yosi1234> Scunizi: fair enough, good point...
[19:58] <eGe> Any good room for terminal commands?
[19:58] <phlak_user> Vinky:  just type !info package name right here
[19:58] <vlt> eGe: #bash
[19:58] <Vinky> !info insight
[19:58] <frojnd> eGe: Ic an't get into terminal
[19:58] <reya2276> And yes this only happens when I'm running eclipse
[19:58] <karthik> Cynthia: let me try
[19:58] <yosi1234> vlt:   my boss asked me to setup a LAMP server as some of their new software requires it, we are normally a windows shop...
[19:58] <tripelb> I've got a problem using the torrent download for Ubuntu 9.10 with Transmission. My system is an AMD 9.10 upgrade from 9.04  -  I have two hard drives. Both are mounted. The second is NTFS which is my target drive. What I get is: Error: Permission denied (/media/ubuntu-9.10desktop-i386.iso)  In preferences a directory is chosen on the 2nd drive. I resaved the preferences and tried again. Same story, morning glory.
[19:58] <Greblok> Cynthia: Thank you! :)
[19:59] <dancek> vlt, the desktop kernel includes some optimizations to make the GUI feel responsive, which make other stuff slower even if you don't have a GUI
[19:59] <eGe> frojnd: reboot recovery drop to terminal
[19:59] <Vinky> phlak_user, ddd was awful to use :-(
[19:59] <phlak_user> tripelb: do you have write permission on the destination?
[19:59] <reya2276> is eclipse missing something which causes it to prohibit the mouse to work after a certain amount of time
[19:59] <vlt> yosi1234: That's Linux (no GUI), Apache (no GUI), MySQL (no GUI) and PHP (no GUI), right?
[19:59] <yosi1234> The GUI I wanted for comfort. To manage the RAID car, the SQL Table, Apache etc...
[19:59] <phlak_user> Vinky: ive been using it for years :)
[19:59] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, u think u need to set write permission properly
[19:59] <vlt> dancek: Can you give an example?
[19:59] <eGe> frojnd: nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:59] <reya2276> vlt: no dude there are GUIs for all those you mentioned
[19:59] <dancek> vlt, wait a sec
[20:00] <vlt> reya2276: What?
[20:00] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, I checked properties, it seemed ok. I am the only user.
[20:00] <guntbert> yosi1234: apart from raid (and I'm not sure there) all things can be managed remotely (web interfaces...)
[20:00] <reya2276> vlt: yes
[20:00] <phlak_user> yosi1234: all of that can be managed via your web browser
[20:00] <yosi1234> VLT: I thought there are GUI tools to controll all the parts of the LAMP?  and GUI tools from LSI to control the raid
[20:00] <eGe> frojnd: i got to go see the ubuntu forum . for answers
[20:00] <Vinky> phlak_user, wasnt that useful to me, it stole the pointer  4 times, disappered twice
[20:00] <reya2276> for PHP there is phpmyadmin
[20:00] <vlt> reya2276: Example please?
[20:00] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, sudo nautilus "/second drive mount point" and right click on mounted folder and change permissions to your username and not root
[20:01] <phlak_user> Vinky: once you know how to use it, it might be your friend
[20:01] <karthik> Cynthia:  I did rectagle select changed the size so that its a square .. edit-> stroke selection .. Now i have one rectangle .. how do I copy and paste it so that the rectangles are exactly next to each other ?
[20:01] <vlt> reya2276: That's for MySQL, and it is not a GUI app
[20:01] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, remove the "" of course
[20:01] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, oh this time it's different and the permissions cannot be determined. (now I'll do what you just said)
[20:01] <reya2276> vlt: actually you can just use webmin and it will allow you to use a web GUI for all those you just mentioned
[20:01] <eGe> frojnd: write in google your problem. like name of graphic card black screen ubuntu or lucid
[20:01] <karthik> Cynthia: or can you tell me how do I draw a  line so that I can draw two lines in X shape ?
[20:01] <vlt> reya2276: Even webmin is not a "GUI app" ...
[20:02] <reya2276> vlt: http://www.webmin.com/
[20:02] <Vinky> phlak_user, Im more used to insight, but that doesnt appear to be available according to !info, according to launchpad it is
[20:02] <yosi1234> got disconnected
[20:02] <yosi1234> lol
[20:02] <eGe> Q about drawing in gimp? ha..
[20:02] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, yes i chose the connection that had the SSID and chose edit but i dont see where i can add dns server. in the IPv4 setting that comes up i can only set one DNS that too if i use manual method to connect and not DHCP. do u know what else i can do?
[20:02] <reya2276> vlt: dude do you have to use a CLI NO, so yes it is a GUI
[20:02] <Scunizi> When you sudo tasksel for the menu to install various options.. one of those options is FTP server... which ftp server is used? and how much additional setup is required to get it functional?
[20:02] <Cynthia> karthik: use the arrow keys and a zoom level over 100% to place the rectangles accurately. as for the X, you could look at the coordinates of your mouse cursor and use the Shift and Ctrl keys with the pencil tool
[20:02] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, oh no lots of errors. couldnt find the 2nd drive mount point. ??
[20:03] <reya2276> vlt: anything that you can point and click is a GUI, either desktop or web
[20:03] <vlt> reya2276: You point and click in your browser. This is the GUI app in this case
[20:03] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: you could add these entries in your wi-fi router and these would get passed on to your laptop when you connect
[20:03] <karthik> Cynthia: I am not able to draw straight lines using pencil tool ..
[20:03] <reya2276> vlt: a GUI is a GUI as long as you can point and click
[20:03] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, what is the address of your second drive where u want to torrents to be saved?
[20:04] <reya2276> vlt
[20:04] <Cynthia> karthik: click on the starting point, move mouse to ending point, press Ctrl+Shift and click
[20:04] <yosi1234> guys - is there anything like GHOST or Acronis for Linux to make snapshots of the production server at intervals for backup...
[20:04] <Shoruken> i get a "vpn connection failed becaues the vpn service failed to start" notification when trying to connect to a pptp vpn with nm-applet
[20:04] <hey_joe> why is the command line install kernel missing from all modern ubuntu discs, however the option still exists?
[20:04] <vlt> reya2276: This is not the point. yosi1234 wants to know which GUI tools need to run on the server.
[20:04] <phlak_user> Shoruken: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages should show you the error messages
[20:04] <reya2276> vlt: the issue with most of these guys in here is that they see the CLI as a faster mor efficient way to do things and is more secure
[20:04] <karthik> okay ..
[20:04] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, thanks for the help, i guess i need to do that, i was wondering if i could do it from within ubuntu, meh, i will keep trying, thanks for the help
[20:04]  * Macharo is now away: root[at]localhost
[20:05] <reya2276> vlt: OK webmin is one such tool from there he can control everything through a GUI
[20:05] <vlt> reya2276: And I say, none of the apps mentioned needs a VNC like GUI to be run *on the server+
[20:05] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: you could add them to /etc/resolv.conf but it would get overwritten everytime you connect
[20:05] <brady> What page installs the openssl development files? I would expect openssl-dev, but that packages does not seem to be present.
[20:05] <Hilikus> i am watching a video stream on totem, is there some way to store that video?
[20:05] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, ya thats a pain in the u know where :P i will see what i can do
[20:06] <phlak_user> vlt: its just a hangover from his windoze days that he needs to see a window from the remote server o_O
[20:06] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, what is the address of a drive?
[20:06] <yosi1234> phlak is correct
[20:06] <Synyster> if i insert an install/live cd into the drive of a previous version of ubuntu, can i upgrade, or is it a reinstall?
[20:06] <yosi1234> I'm addicted to the gui
[20:06] <phlak_user> The_Wanderer_: If you add it to your router, all the people connecting will get the new dns server entries including you
[20:06] <root__> can anyone help me
[20:06] <vlt> yosi1234: ok, what is that "window from the remote server" supposed to show you?
[20:06] <unop> !info libssl-dev | brady
[20:06] <reya2276> yosi1234: I don't blame you, is easier to point and click than to remember commands
[20:07] <Shoruken> phlak_user, didn't see anything in that log
[20:07] <brady> Gracias.
[20:07] <The_Wanderer_> phlak_user, ya, i will try to do that
[20:07] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, did your problem get resolved?
[20:07] <vlt> reya2276: This is not about commands vs point and click. This is about running X apps on the server (and the need to)
[20:07] <yosi1234> vlt: well if I find gui tools for apache,mysql and php, then wawindow to it would be great
[20:07] <phlak_user> Shoruken: keep it running as you try to connect to the vpn server. you should see entries starting with pppd:
[20:07] <dancek> vlt, well for example the kernel preemption model makes a compromise between throughput and latency (which is quite server vs. desktop), see: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=kernel/Kconfig.preempt;h=bf987b95b3560fbd0a7d8a820335100a55e1d105;hb=HEAD
[20:08] <phlak_user> yosi1234: you will get over the craving for a remote desktop once you start using linux more often
[20:08] <Kruecke> #join NerdSTH
[20:08] <mom> hi im going to europe for a few weeks, is there a way to leave my home computer on so i can use it as a proxy to view US video content while im in europe?
[20:08] <vlt> dancek: Thank you
[20:08] <Shoruken> phlak_user, i did, and still nothing, the last entry was about 7 hours ago in it
[20:08] <karthik> Cynthia: Wow .. cool ..  I am not able to zoom using the arrow keys ..
[20:08] <yosi1234> phlak: may be right
[20:08] <Kruecke> par
[20:09] <vlt> mom: Is it reachable via ssh from outside? Then yes ;-)
[20:09] <karthik> Cynthia: okay got it
[20:09] <karthik> Cynthia: Thanks for your help ..
[20:09] <ubuntu_> hola
[20:09] <mom> vlt, yes it is
[20:09] <reya2276> vlt: dude what are you talking about, he likes GUIs and if you know of tools which he can use instead of a CLI then let him know, I got no arguments on whatever you were trying to say just pointing out that there are tools out there which allow you control those apps through a GUI
[20:09] <yosi1234> guys - everyone tells me to run Redh Hat or Cent OS - ubuntu seems more friendly - any downfall going with ubuntu server?
[20:09] <Shoruken> phlak_user, i'm assuming i'm missing some package it depends on to connect to vpn since it fails instantly...
[20:09] <ubuntu_> alguien en español
[20:09] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, I'm going to get the verbose reply I got and put it in a pastebin
[20:10] <mom> vlt, i guess a web proxy is what i need?
[20:10] <reya2276> yosi1234: it is dude. I have 4 servers at work running ubuntu and they are a dream compared to windows server 2003
[20:10] <hey_joe> anyone know how to fire up the cli install option on the alternate CD?
[20:10] <phlak_user> Shoruken: you should see something like this --> http://pastebin.com/K3eHaFs1
[20:10] <hmw> hey_joe: people in #ubuntu are likely to know
[20:10] <yosi1234> dancek: interestling, link...   i don't know what i'm looking at, but i'm sure u do...so server sounds more optimized for serving than the desktop edition
[20:10] <hmw> oops
[20:11] <hmw> hey_joe: sorry, i thought, i was in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:11] <Shoruken> phlak_user nope got nothing, i'll pastebin my tail real quick one sec
[20:11] <durt> hey_joe, F4 IIRC from the install menu
[20:11] <hey_joe> hrm
[20:11] <phlak_user> Shoruken: what kind of VPN server is it? PPTP or OpenVPN or IPSec?
[20:11] <dancek> yosi1234, it's a file from the kernel source
[20:11] <the_dark_warrio1> I'm trying to install Wine through Ubuntu Software Center, but it says the packages are untrusted. Why is this happening? I did not add any third party repository
[20:11] <Shoruken> phlak_user, pptp and http://pastebin.com/ZHst53C4
[20:12] <Shoruken> phlak_user, i get an instant pop up notification showing me it failed
[20:12] <dancek> yosi1234, those are some of the help texts you see when you configure your own kernel (which is often done for servers)
[20:12] <hmw> hey_joe: this should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[20:12] <hey_joe> durt: uhm, first off.. i need to pass a kernel option .. console=ttyS0,9600, on the older alternate cd's you would say "boot: cli console=ttyS0,9600" however although the menu says it exists, the "cli" kernel is non existant
[20:12] <phlak_user> Shoruken: did you configure the VPN connection correctly?
[20:12] <hey_joe> hmw: i have read over it...
[20:12] <Shoruken> phlak_user, weird thing is it works fine on an earlier installation that i had to replace since the hard drive was faililng, yeah vpn connection info is entered in fine
[20:12] <hmw> hey_joe: sorry!
[20:12] <Shoruken> i've done it several times
[20:12] <durt> hey_joe, F6 to edit (again IIRC)
[20:13] <hey_joe> and it says to use "cli" however, again even though it says its there under F1 help menu .. both cli, and cli-expert are gone
[20:13] <hey_joe> IIRC?
[20:13] <vlt> yosi1234: And you can have all of the tools from the desktop app in the server edition too. I think you should use its optimised kernel flavour.
[20:13] <hey_joe> i thought that was a joke.. what is that?
[20:13] <Cynthia> hey_joe: If I recall correctly
[20:13] <phlak_user> Shoruken: do you have pppd installed?
[20:14] <hey_joe> so at 10.04 prompt i could do "iirc console=ttyS0,9600" ?
[20:14] <yosi1234> vlt: makes sense...  even if i run a desktop ontop of it down the road, best sticking with the server edition as a base
[20:14] <Shoruken> phlak_user looks like i do
[20:14] <phlak_user> hey_joe: iirc -> if i recall correctly O-O
[20:15] <phlak_user> Shoruken: how did you check?
[20:15] <yosi1234> is VNC better than just SSH?
[20:15] <durt> hey_joe, no leave out the iirc :)
[20:15] <vlt> yosi1234: It's completely diffrent
[20:15] <Shoruken> phlak_user sudo pppd, got some weird characters on terminal and now my tail -f log ended up saying a few things
[20:15] <greezmunkey> phlak_user: heh, irssi notify with sound - pretty cool.
[20:15] <hey_joe> doh. well. i need to install without X, etc... is there a way to do this from the alternate CD? minimal wont work cause there is no nic card working til after install
[20:15] <yosi1234> vlt:SSH is just mstly for CLI, and VNC, allows screen redraws of a gui, if i have it installed?
[20:15] <vlt> You can use ssh to tunnel your (unencrypted) vnc stream, for example
[20:15] <phlak_user> Shoruken: oh ok
[20:16] <durt> hey_joe, ya, hit F4 or whatever it is, and select 'text only install'
[20:16] <phlak_user> Shoruken: are you on lucid? cos on karmic, I had to uncheck the apply to all users box for vpn to work
[20:16] <vlt> yosi1234: SSH is for shell access but it has this tunnel feature
[20:16] <yosi1234> fair enough, let me do some reading, befoire i ask stupid questions..brb
[20:16] <Shoruken> phlak_user, yeah i'm on lucid, i'll try unchecking that
[20:16] <hey_joe> durt: i meant, i dont want a desktop installed onto the system...
[20:17] <frxstrem> what is the path to the main Python library in Ubuntu 10.4?
[20:17] <phlak_user> hey_joe: you need to install server edition for that
[20:17] <hey_joe> phlak_user: the kernel is incompatible with this hardware..
[20:17] <frxstrem> (I am trying to compile a program, but it complains about "not being able to link test program to Python")
[20:17] <Shoruken> phlak_user, oops when unchecking that option i have no way to select it in nm-applet
[20:17] <hey_joe> has to be alternate, or minimal, howeve rminimal wont work, cause the nics dont work till after install....
[20:17] <phlak_user> frxstrem: whereis python tells you
[20:17] <acicula> hey_joe, you can try the alternate installer, but not sure if that lets you toggle the option to not install ubuntu-desktop
[20:17] <vlt> yosi1234: Example: Start vncserver remotely. Then run `vncviewer :1 -via <your server>` to establish a secured connection.
[20:17] <durt> hey_joe, oh, either remove the package 'ubuntu-desktop' after istallation or use the server iso. Alternate is not what you want
[20:17] <phlak_user> Shoruken: eh?
[20:17] <frxstrem> phlak_user: oh, thanks :)
[20:18] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, OK I mounted and unmounted it a 3rd time and now I can get into permissions and it looks good but (same results) The reply in terminal  http://paste.ubuntu.com/437977/ -- the reply from the gui  http://paste.ubuntu.com/437979/
[20:18] <Shoruken> phlak_user i unchecked available to all and it disappeared from the menu
[20:18] <acicula> durt, that just removes the meta-package
[20:18] <yosi1234> Last question guys - anyone have a preference on the best backup software for ubuntu server that does a full disk image backup
[20:18] <phlak_user> yosi1234: theres no best; just use whatever gets the job done
[20:18] <koe> hi guys ... how can I write a bootable windows CD from ubuntu ? i`m using Brasero disk burner but I cant select the speed and it writes the CD "to fast" I cant boot from it
[20:19] <koe> I already messed up 2 CD-s
[20:19] <koe> :|
[20:19] <The_Wanderer> tripelb, hi, sorry got disconnected
[20:19] <vlt> yosi1234: You could use LVM to take instant snapshots w/o the need to shutdown anything while doing backup.
[20:19] <yosi1234> vlt: what does LVM stand for?
[20:19] <phlak_user> yosi1234: many people seem to like bacula --> www.bacula.org
[20:19] <vlt> yosi1234: Then you need to setup the whole server on top of LVM
[20:19] <koe> hi guys ... how can I write a bootable windows CD from ubuntu ? i`m using Brasero disk burner but I cant select the speed and it writes the CD "to fast" I cant boot from it
[20:20] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, OK I mounted and unmounted it a 3rd time and now I can get into permissions and it looks good but (same results) The reply in terminal  http://paste.ubuntu.com/437977/ -- the reply from the gui  http://paste.ubuntu.com/437979/
[20:20] <vlt> !lvm | yosi1234
[20:20] <yosi1234> vlst: is it a layer
[20:20] <vlt> yosi1234: Yes
[20:20] <yosi1234> thanks
[20:20] <yosi1234> guys
[20:20] <vlt> yosi1234: A volume manager
[20:20] <yosi1234> may cause latency on the IOPS performance
[20:21] <yosi1234> but i will do some reading, thanks for all the suggestions...brb
[20:21] <vlt> yosi1234: latency shouldn't be noticable
[20:21] <koe> come on  no one wanna help me ?
[20:21] <koe>  how can I write a bootable windows CD from ubuntu ? i`m using Brasero disk burner but I cant select the speed and it writes the CD "to fast" I cant boot from it
[20:21] <hmw> !patience | koe
[20:21] <phlak_user> tripelb: looks like you literally wrote what he gave as an example. you need to replace "second mount point" with something like /media/drive2 or whatever it is that is the actual mount point
[20:21] <durt> yosi1234, also be aware of the #ubuntu-server channel
[20:22] <koe> I did ... several times already
[20:22] <phillyj> can i unistall a program by deleting all the files associated with a program?
[20:22] <matelot1> Can someone walk me thru adding USB HDD to the /etc/fstab ?
[20:22] <phlak_user> phillyj: you could but easier way is to do a sudo apt-get remove pkgname
[20:22] <hmw> koe: I know, it must be frustrating. You can try using another CD drive, clean your drive, put the drive in a computer with Windows and hope the new software can burn slower, or use different CD media
[20:22] <greezmunkey> koe: Try burning in Brasero with a much slower burning speed. (Properties button beside the drive select)
[20:23] <yosi1234> durt: thanks
[20:23] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, just open the folder u want to save the torrents in and check the name of the folder in the address bar and paste here what it is. your address bar at the top of the window that shows the folders content
[20:23] <greezmunkey> koe: quote from: http://linuxgator.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6356&sid=de47ea9450f2e2e5fdfbbc26b12bcdab
[20:23] <Guest73584> Anyone know how to fix an issue with when I have my battery in and on ac power it tells me battery low hibernating now?
[20:23] <koe> greezmunkey, I cant select a lower speed in brasero
[20:23] <koe> thats my problem
[20:24] <hmw> phillyj: generally, yes, but you need to think of all changes in configuration files, the installation might have caused. I can not recommend it. That's what package managers are for. (Try sudo apt-get remove <package name>) If you compiled from source, the Makefile might contain an uninstall option: make uninstall
[20:24] <durt> koe, should be in 'properties' before you click burn.
[20:24] <underdev> hi!  i can scp a file from my ubuntu 9.10 server, but i can't scp a file to it- i get a connection timed out error.  Is there something i need to do on the server so that it can receive file via scp?
[20:24] <arsen_> seems theres a bug with network manager after a karmic->lucid upgrade :/
[20:25] <phlak_user> Guest73584: is this on ubuntu?
[20:25] <koe> I know dude ... but I cant select only maximum speed or 49.1x
[20:25] <Guest73584> phlak_user yea just upgraded to LTS and it started doing this
[20:25] <phlak_user> underdev: install ssh on it
[20:26] <tripelb> phlak_user, noob=me oops. TY I understand that. Transmission gave me "Permission denied (/media/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso)  but the filebrowser calls it location /media/3A30C15E30C1222D   The_Wanderer_
[20:26] <underdev> oh, i thought it already installed since i ssh into it :)
[20:26] <greezmunkey> koe: then you will have to install another burner that lets you do that, there is an extension for nautilus, or others available in the repos
[20:26] <Shoruken_> phlak_user, I just got the vpn to work by killing it and then running it as sudo
[20:26] <Shoruken_> phlak_user, the nm-applet that is
[20:26] <phlak_user> underdev: whats your command to scp
[20:27] <underdev> phlak_user: no, you are right, i needed ssh, i think
[20:27] <phlak_user> Shoruken: hmm i think its got something to do with your normal user not being part of the dip group
[20:27] <koe> greezmunkey, I tryed the nautilus extension with same result ...
[20:27] <Shoruken_> phlak_user, so how do I correct that?
[20:27] <koe> greezmunkey, thats what i`m asking the name of the program ... that can let me do that
[20:27] <guntbert> underdev: no, if you ssh into a server then it has sshd installed
[20:27] <Shoruken_> phlak_user, nevermind, i just used the gui config and it says i'm in the dip group
[20:27] <hmw> greezmunkey: koe: isn't it quite weird, that brasero can't burn slower? Is it either Brasero acting strange or perhaps the drive itself? I can burn at 4x
[20:28] <phlak_user> Shoruken_: check inside /etc/group
[20:28] <greezmunkey> koe: I use k3b, there are others
[20:28] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, instead of using "/second drive name" or whatever i said earlier try using /media/3A30C15E30C1222D and see what happens
[20:28] <Guest73584> phlak_user yea just upgraded to LTS and it started doing this
[20:28] <phlak_user> Shoruken: what about the dialout group?
[20:28] <koe> hmm i`ll try k3b
[20:28] <Shoruken_> phlak_user, actually i wasn't in the DIP group i thought the list was all the groups i was in, i just added it
[20:28] <greezmunkey> koe: be prepared for a *huge* download though...
[20:28] <koe> I saw :D
[20:28] <phlak_user> Shoruken: ok
[20:28] <Shoruken_> i'll try again
[20:29] <hmw> greezmunkey: isn't there someting more lightweight, than this kde app?
[20:29] <koe> greezmunkey, 10 mins left
[20:29] <koe> :D
[20:29] <phlak_user> Guest73584: hmm... your mains is working right?
[20:29] <tripelb> phlak_user,   The_Wanderer_  I did it. 1. gave me lots of warnings in terminal.. BUT did open up the file browser for the volume. BUT terminal is stuck in "a process" and doesnt give me a prompt or respond to a q.
[20:29] <Guest73584> phlak_user mains?
[20:30] <greezmunkey> hmw: gnomebaker maybe - none I have used or could recommend here, sorry
[20:30] <phlak_user> Guest73584: power
[20:30] <hmw> greezmunkey: perhaps some cli app... i will check it out for the next time
[20:30] <phillyj> hmw: i can't find my makefile, maybe i did a clean-up; can I copy my make file in then run the uninstall command?
[20:30] <Guest73584> phlak_user yea if the battery is not in theres nothing to be low
[20:30] <Lexx_666> underdev, perhaps your server is behind a router? than try forwarding port 22 to it
[20:30] <hmw> phillyj: i am not very practiced with compiling. I guess, you might have to ./configure again
[20:31] <greezmunkey> hmw: yeah - you can do any of that from the command line - be prepared to make a few coasters :)
[20:31] <Shoruken__> phlak_user, adding myself to dip group worked, thanks ;)
[20:31] <phlak_user> Shoruken_ yw
[20:31] <hmw> greezmunkey: so bad??
[20:31] <The_Wanderer> tripelb, also what is the save name of the folder u asked transmission to save it in? u can get that by doing this in transmission edit>preferences and in the torrent tab see the "save to location"
[20:31] <tripelb> phlak_user,   The_Wanderer_  I did it. 1. gave me lots of warnings in terminal.. BUT did open up the file browser for the volume. BUT terminal is stuck in "a process" and doesnt give me a prompt or respond to a q.
[20:31] <greezmunkey> hmw: ?
[20:31] <benjamin> what is the apt-get -d install *package* --reinstall trigger to include dependencies as well?
[20:31] <dancek> hmw, not bad at all, just that you'll take a few tries to do it correctly
[20:32] <antivirtel> hello all, everybody knows total commander's feature: find text, what looks inside of files, and searches for different texts in files; how can I do it in ubuntu?
[20:32] <hmw> greezmunkey: dancek: ah, i see
[20:32] <phlak_user> antivirtel: you mean like grep?
[20:32] <tripelb> The_Wanderer, (I appreciate your time.) you are having a hard time keeping connected.
[20:33] <Flannel> benjamin: Try it with --simulate and see.
[20:33] <underdev> installing ssh didn't work
[20:33] <phlak_user> Guest73584: not sure what it is
[20:33] <Lexx_666> underdev, perhaps your server is behind a router? than try forwarding port 22 to it
[20:33] <A71KR117> Anyone try BURG with the Sora theme? I have trouble getting it to work.
[20:33] <The_Wanderer> tripelb, ya, i know, i dont know what the problem is with xchat. i need to get a better client that doesnt bump me off every 2 mins
[20:33] <phillyj> anyone know how to uninstall a compiled file? and i can't find the makefile i used to compile it either
[20:33] <phlak_user> underdev: you could ssh into the server and run scp from there to this machine
[20:33] <alecbenzer> is there a way to disable gnome-screensaver's unlock dialog?
[20:33] <Guest73584> phlak_user ok is there anyway to turn that feature off?
[20:33] <hmw> alecbenzer: in the preferences of the screen saver
[20:33] <phoenix_> is there a dvd burning program for ubuntu
[20:33] <The_Wanderer> tripelb, did u check what the transmission pref says?
[20:33] <Drahgkar> Hello all, I'm having a networking issue with a static IP on 10.04 where I'm unable to ping to or from the box.  I've checked the usual suspects /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/network/interfaces and all the information is correct, but I'm still unable to go anywhere.  I also looked at the link guntbert posted earlier (https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html) to no avail. Does anyone have any
[20:34] <underdev> scp doyle.hcl jake@MYIPADDRESS:doyle.hcl <-- this is my scp command
[20:34] <antivirtel> phlak_user I have now solved, because gnome commander NEEDS a *(star) to "Search for:" input, but it isnt so in total commander, but now it works, but thx
[20:34] <underdev> scp doyle.hcl jake@MYIPADDRESS:doyle.hcl <-- this is my scp command
[20:34] <alecbenzer> hmw, lol, idk how I missed that. thx
[20:34] <hmw> alecbenzer: *grin*
[20:34] <phlak_user> Guest73584: gnome-power-manager lets you disable that
[20:35] <greezmunkey> later all
[20:36] <guntbert> underdev: and what is the error that you get?
[20:36] <Guest73584> phlak_user it doesnt give me that option just suspend, hibernate, and shutdown
[20:36] <phlak_user> underdev: can you run the command with scp -vv so you get some more verbosity?
[20:36] <underdev> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection timed out
[20:36] <underdev> i can ssh in just fine
[20:36] <hmw> underdev: check the firewall of the remote computer
[20:37]  * A71KR117 is away: Gone to snipe bad people.
[20:37]  * A71KR117 is back (gone 00:00:09)
[20:37] <benjamin> that didn't help... it didn't list all dependencies. anyway, i know there's a switch to type in the command line i just don't remember what it is
[20:38] <Guest73584> Anyone know how to get intel drivers working on a Inspiron mini?
[20:38] <Flannel> benjamin: What are you ultimately trying to accomplish?
[20:38] <guntbert> !who | underdev
[20:39] <Drahgkar> Hello all, I'm having a networking issue with a static IP on 10.04 where I'm unable to ping to or from the box.  I've checked the usual suspects /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/network/interfaces and all the information is correct, but I'm still unable to go anywhere.  I also looked at the link guntbert posted earlier (https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html) to no avail. Does anyone have any
[20:39] <benjamin> i want to download a bunch of .deb so they can be installed on a pc with no internet connection
[20:39] <phillyj> anyone know what this error means:  No rule to make target `uninstall'. ?
[20:39] <guntbert> underdev: are you sure that the IP-address is the same?
[20:39] <benjamin> to get all the required packages i'm using this method to get them, instead of manually
[20:39] <mac9416> benjamin, have you tried Keryx?
[20:39] <Flannel> !aptoncd | benjamin
[20:39] <Flannel> benjamin: Have you looked at AptOnCD?
[20:39] <phlak_user> Guest73584: on System-Preferences-PowerManagement. there is an option under the "On Battery Power" tab to change the event for Battery power critically low from hibernate to nothing
[20:39] <underdev> guntbert: yes, i'm sure
[20:39] <WillDeed> Hey everybody.  I'm having trouble with my Philips Fun Cam being recognized in 10.04.  The webcam is listed in lsusb but /dev/video0 is not being registered for some reason.  I don't really understand the process of how devices are registered, is there a tutorial some other resource I can look up?  Is there a specific keyword to search on for what this process is called?  Thanks
[20:39] <hmw> phillyj: that means you were _not_ lucky, not all Makefiles have that option.
[20:40] <benjamin> cool that should work, thanks :)
[20:40] <underdev> guntbert: and there is no firewall, at least i didn't set one up, and ssh into the machine works fine, scp from the machine works fine
[20:40] <Guest73584> phlak_user and as I justated earlier mine doesnt give me the option
[20:40] <underdev> its ubuntu 9.10 server
[20:40] <benjamin> i'll let you know the apt switch i'm looking for if i remember it anyway lol
[20:40] <Guest73584> phlak_user just stated*
[20:40] <The_Wanderer> tripelb, let me know if the issue is resolved
[20:40] <hmw> phillyj: You could do something like making the program again on another machine, or in a chroot, and take some measures to trace all files, that are created or touched, then you could make a script to remove the program from your computer. Another idea might be a find command for lately created files
[20:41] <mac9416> benjamin, are you looking for the one that prints a list of packages that _would_ be donwloaded?
[20:41] <Guest73584> phlak_user hate this laptop lol
[20:41] <mnemon> Drahgkar: have you tried using different ips?
[20:41] <Ge5i> hi
[20:41] <underdev> since i don't seem to be able to either use scp or troubleshoot it, what is the prefered FTPd for Ubuntu server?
[20:41] <benjamin> yeah, just so long as it doesn't take into concideration what is already on my system currently
[20:42] <solid_liq> underdev, vsftpd works well
[20:42] <hmw> phillyj: Installing from source has exactly this drawback. I tend to create an image of the partition, before messing around with it. Next time, you could use a Ubuntu boot USB thumb drive with partimage or any other backup tool
[20:42] <guntbert> underdev: please try scp -v .... (to see what it is doing)
[20:42] <mac9416> benjamin, oh, OK. I haven't seen that one. --print-uris is what I was thinking, but it'll only print URIs for packages that aren't installed.
[20:43] <hmw> !hi | Ge5i
[20:43] <benjamin> i did it once before, a friend of mine told me the trigger, i just can't for the life of me remember. i know i'll figure it out again haha, i'll let you know when i do
[20:43] <gh0st> hello y'all
[20:43] <hmw> !hi | gh0st
[20:43] <underdev> guntbert: okay, i did, let me pastbin it
[20:43] <solid_liq> underdev, check my tutorial on scp, it may enlighten you as to how to make it work: http://solid.linux-coders.org/usingscp.html
[20:43] <underdev> guntbert: ty
[20:43] <Drahgkar> mnemon: the only other ips I have available are whatever dhcp my isp has.  It appears to work part of the time with dhcp during the system setup but not always.  I had it working yesterday before I changed something and totally messed up the install, but I can't seem to figure out what the difference is between my static ip setup I had yesterday and the static ip setup I have today.
[20:44] <diskin> hi all, why one /dev/video device has crw-rw----+ attribs, and another crw-rw---- (without the "plus")?
[20:44] <mac9416> benjamin, OK, cool. I'd like to see that.
[20:44] <gh0st> what i need to learn to succesful use terminal, is it bash thing ?
[20:45] <WillDeed> gh0st: Yes, Terminal is the gnome application for accessing a shell (bash)
[20:45] <eye-zak> gh0st: the best full guide for bash is "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" see your favourite search
[20:46] <underdev> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/mfwP2hxr
[20:46] <gh0st> thanks guys
[20:46] <gh0st> soryy about these stupid question but i came from windows 7
[20:46] <solid_liq> gh0st, yeah, learn bash, and read this to give you a lot more info than you'd expect by the title: http://miketdean.googlepages.com/thelscommand
[20:46] <mac9416> gh0st, you might also find this useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:46] <underdev> solid_liq: thank you, i'm looking at it now
[20:46] <solid_liq> underdev, np
[20:47]  * Macharo is now away: brb
[20:47] <hmw> gh0st: good ressources are http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
[20:47] <gh0st> yeah and another question
[20:47] <gh0st> what about cpp developing
[20:48] <gh0st> what i need to get to write apps to linux or something
[20:48] <solid_liq> gh0st, g++
[20:48] <hmw> gh0st: sorry, that was the advanced guide, perhaps you want http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html instead
[20:48] <guntbert> underdev: that doesn't tell me anything either :-(   hope for that tutorial ....
[20:48] <solid_liq> gh0st, yeah, learn bash, and read this to give you a lot more info than you'd expect by the title: http://miketdean.googlepages.com/thelscommand
[20:48] <a3ist> gh0st do you have experience programming desktop apps on other platforms?
[20:48] <mac9416> gh0st, I personally like Python. They might be able to help you with that in #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:48] <solid_liq> gh0st, read section 3 of that at least
[20:49] <WillDeed> gh0st: are you wanting to develop for linux or just write an application that will run in Linux?  cpp is relatively advanced and overkill if you're not doing device handling or kernel programming.  Consider trying ruby, python, or perl
[20:49] <underdev> solid_liq: that's what i'm doing.  oh well, there are other options :)
[20:49] <underdev> gh0st- tcl is dead simple
[20:49] <solid_liq> mac9416, if he's asking specifically about C++, he probably already knows it ;)
[20:49] <emorris> hi, I'm trying to put together a video using PiTiVi, however, a video clip is in an unsupported format. What's the best way to convert this to a usable one? I've tried vlc and mencoder but then just produce broken, unusable results. Thanks in advance
[20:50] <solid_liq> emorris, try handbrake then
[20:50] <Loshki> emorris: what format is the video clip in, then?
[20:50] <gh0st> willdeed; i don't know
[20:50] <WillDeed> gh0st: what kind of application are you trying to write?
[20:50] <solid_liq> WillDeed, C++ is not for kernel programming
[20:51] <gh0st> normally i'm writing on windows 7
[20:51] <WillDeed> solid_liq: right... sorry
[20:51] <gh0st> games
[20:51] <solid_liq> gh0st, you can always ask programming questions in ##linux-coders
[20:51] <gh0st> and other tools
[20:51] <solid_liq> games require C++
[20:51] <gh0st> o love cpp
[20:51] <gh0st> that's my hobby
[20:51] <emorris> solid_liq, I'll take a look. Loshki, wmv
[20:51] <solid_liq> scripting languages aren't fast enough for programming games
[20:51] <durt> emorris, you might want to take a look at winFF in the repos
[20:52] <underdev> winFF is so awesome
[20:52] <WillDeed> gh0st: like someone else said, gpp
[20:52] <guntbert> !ot | gh0st, solid_liq
[20:52] <asdfasdfasdf> hello im using kde 4.4.2 on fedora and maybe this thing already exists and i dont know how to set it up: i would like to press certain keyboard shorcut, say "ctrl + windows key" and then it would be awesome if it appeared a small box in the middle of the screen with shortcuts to apps i previously chose to appear there. i tried setting that keyboard shortcut to the applications launcher plasmoid but it doesnt do a thing. am i hallu
[20:52] <asdfasdfasdf> cinating or can this be done?
[20:52] <solid_liq> guntbert, it's is NOT OT
[20:52] <CaptainTrek> can Ubuntu read/write to Macs / mac formatted drives?
[20:52] <infid> i just created a new group with 'sudo groupadd web1' and added my user to it with 'sudo adduser infid web1' but when i type 'groups' it doesn't show web1, but it does if i do 'groups infid'. any idea why?
[20:52] <solid_liq> guntbert, he was asking how to do development on Ubuntu.  Pay attention before going off with the OT idea
[20:52] <tripelb> phlak_user,   The_Wanderer_  I did it. 1. gave me lots of warnings in terminal.. BUT did open up the file browser for the volume. BUT terminal is stuck in "a process" and doesnt give me a prompt or respond to a q.
[20:52] <benjamin> Got it!
[20:52] <Loshki> emorris: I agree with solid_liq, handbrake first. Failing that, ffmpeg or transcode
[20:52] <emorris> durt, cool, just installing
[20:53] <benjamin> i think
[20:53] <benjamin> lol
[20:53] <benjamin> apt-get build-dep -d vuze --reinstall
[20:53] <emorris> Loshki, ok
[20:53] <WillDeed> Can anybody point me to a tutorial on the process of usb devices being registered?  My Philips Fun Cam is listed in lsusb but it doesn't register /dev/video0.  I don't know enough about the process to search google effectively
[20:53] <guntbert> solid_liq: programming discussions *are* off topic here
[20:53] <The_Wanderer_> tripelb, can u read the partition where u want to store the torrent?
[20:53] <solid_liq> guntbert, when someone is asking what they need to do programming on Ubuntu???  are your serious?
[20:54] <dhalsimm> hi, did someone managed to make the panel thinner? I can't make it thinner than 24 pixels because of "Menu Bar" applet. It won't work unless you remove it.
[20:54] <gh0st> is anybody give me the name of this channel to coders
[20:54] <mac9416> benjamin, thanks, I'll look at that.  :-)
[20:54] <gh0st> for*
[20:54] <solid_liq> gh0st, ##linux-coders
[20:54] <gh0st> thanks mate
[20:54] <guntbert> solid_liq: last sentence from me in this case: how is programming on ubuntu different from any other linux?
[20:55] <benjamin> no, that's not right, actually, i don't think anyway vuze depends on java and it didn't fetch java
[20:55] <hmw> solid_liq: it is not really a support question
[20:55] <pumpkin> i just made a fresh install of 10.04. All "apt-get install", aptitude installs or synaptic ops end in SEGFAULTs The packages are installed and working... Normal behavior or something to worry about?
[20:55] <mac9416> benjamin, hmmm
[20:55] <solid_liq> guntbert, easy: in Ubuntu, people are usually new to Linux, which means they don't know where else to ask, unlike with other distros
[20:55] <michelle_> i need help configuring a dvd rom
[20:55] <hmw> !ask | michelle_
[20:55] <diskin> hi all, why one /dev/video device has crw-rw----+ attribs, and another crw-rw---- (without the "plus")?
[20:55] <hmw> michelle_: what exactly is the problem?
[20:55] <solid_liq> guntbert, but I bet that rule comes from Mark Shuttleworth, right?  Oh wait, no, considering his background, it probably doesn't.
[20:56] <Loshki> michelle_: they're usually plug and play...
[20:56] <michelle_> Loshkia dvd's will not play in the dvd drive and i cant find the plugins
[20:57] <hmw> michelle_: you could do:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restriced-extras
[20:57] <mac9416> benjamin, yeah, I don't think build-dep is the trick.  :-(
[20:57] <diskin> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:57] <maco> solid_liq: programmig discussion goes to that language's channel. for c, ##c, for C++, ##C++, etc
[20:57] <michelle_> hmw thank you
[20:57] <benjamin> yeah, it's fetching things for building packages i think
[20:57] <hmw> michelle_: see diskins message, typo!!
[20:57] <mac9416> benjamin,  right.
[20:58] <mac9416> hmw, does ubuntu-restricted-extras get libdvdcss too?
[20:58] <solid_liq> maco, what about ##linux-coders, the catch-all channel for programming?  isn't that better than referring someone to, say, ##c, where everyone is a jerk?
[20:58] <hmw> mac9416: that was the point :) it installs a lot of codecs, and libdvdcss(2) should be amongst them
[20:58] <gnubie> michelle_;  add the medibuntu repo for libdvdcss
[20:58] <maco> solid_liq: didnt know that one existed, but i do agree that ##c is full of jerks
[20:59] <mac9416> hmw, OK, just making sure. I couldn't remember if ubuntu-restricted-extras got libdvdcss.
[20:59] <margraf> my intel 3495 don't work in protected wi-fi conections, someone can help me?
[20:59] <maco> hmw: it installs a script that can pull in libdvdcss, mac9416
[20:59] <Loshki> so many channels full of jerks. I was treated abominably on #openbsd...
[20:59] <mac9416> maco, ah.
[20:59] <hmw> mac9416: your question makes me feel uncertain; perhaps I was mistaken? I remember ... ah maco said it... got to dig it out
[20:59] <solid_liq> maco, I think people should refer people to a channel like that rather than just saying, "oh noes, ot!"
[21:00] <mac9416> hmw, yeah, it's been a while since I did it last.
[21:00] <michelle_> gnubie how do i add the medibunu repo and waht does it do
[21:00] <mac9416> !dvd
[21:00] <maco> solid_liq: programming discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic is common
[21:00] <gnubie> michelle_;  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[21:00] <mac9416> Not sure that helped.
[21:00] <maco> solid_liq: there are quite a lot of programmers  in there
[21:00] <solid_liq> hmm
[21:00] <hmw> mac9416: michelle_ maco: probably after installing the restricted extras, one seems to need to do: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[21:00] <maco> hmw: yeah that script
[21:00] <dominicdinada> !openoffice
[21:00] <yosi1234> Question - If I need to install the driver for the LSI RAID Controller 9260-8i on Ubuntu , which driver would be compatible from tehir website
[21:00] <yosi1234> http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_sas/6gb_s_value_line/sas9260-8i/
[21:01] <WillDeed> is there an advanced support channel to try to figure out my webcam issue?
[21:01] <mac9416> hmw, cool. That sounds right.
[21:01] <hmw> mac9416: i took that from my karmic "post-install" script... already forgot about the dvd thing
[21:01] <delac> Trying to use Audacious's crossfade plugin, but it keeps hanging on various things. Anyone familiar with these problems?
[21:01] <ani> FATAL: Error inserting saa7134_alsa (/lib/modules/2.6.32-22-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134-alsa.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[21:02] <ani> http://pastebin.com/NPBDYsCp  dmesg log
[21:02] <mac9416> hmw, I guess that's what happens when you automate things. You forget how they work.  :-)
[21:02] <pietr> hello, I need some help with sudoers file under ubuntu 10.04. I would like to run sudo command without entering my password every time. I've tried to add "peter   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" after visudo  with no luck. all suggestions will be appriciated
[21:03] <hmw> pietr: this should explain it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Remove%20Password%20Prompt%20For%20sudo
[21:03] <yosi1234> Adaptec and LSI don't seem to have Ubuntu drives, just every other Linux OS - whats with that?
[21:03] <tripelb> The_Wanderer_, Can I read it? I can see it in file-browser. I can see the directories. I can make directories and store files  on it, ie read and write.
[21:03] <Flyingwatermelon> why do i have so many?
[21:03] <yosi1234> drivers*
[21:03] <Flyingwatermelon> http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y376/FlyingWatermelon/computer-1.jpg
[21:03] <phlak_user> pietr: sudo requires you to enter password only once
[21:03] <emorris> solid_liq, yep! Handbrake did the job. Thanks!
[21:03] <solid_liq> emorris, np :D
[21:04] <dominicdinada> What is the Openoffice Database package so i can aptitude get? i searched OpenOffice and got like 300 matches
[21:04] <CaptainTrek> ...
[21:04] <hmw> phlak_user: not only once, for a period of time, the password is "cached"
[21:04] <pietr> phlak_user: only for the same console
[21:04] <CaptainTrek> isnt it dangerous to remove the sudo password?
[21:04] <Synyster> can i upgrade / install ubuntu from the .iso file directly, or does it need to be burned and put into the cd drive?