[08:57] <hoshi411> when I used macosx it also allowed me to designate whichever partition I wanted to use for swap, without wiping the data
[08:57] <leontopod> WhereIsMySpoon, any KDE application will do
[08:57] <leontopod> just open the application, click on About KDE
[08:57] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont know which ones are kde apps xD
[08:57] <Jordan_U> hoshi411: That's called a swap file, not a swap directory. And it is not what you have here.
[08:57] <ryannathans> when IOMUU is enabled and I boot 11.10 live, I can NOT access my dedicated raid array on my adaptec 3805. when IOMUU is disabled, it works fine. How can I get it to work when IOMUU is enabled?
[08:57] <leontopod> They usually start with a capital K
[08:58] <ryannathans> typically, i'd previously get a kernel panic when IOMUU is enabled
[08:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok
[08:58] <Newb> No audio output from ubuntu 10.04 any ideas?
[08:58] <hoshi411> wow... hmm .. ok ... time to get a second opinion. thanks though O_o
[08:58] <ryannathans> clonezilla works fine.
[08:58] <hoshi411> be back ...
[08:58] <Jordan_U> hoshi411: Ubuntu can use swap files, but that is not what you have right now. /dev/sda4 is a swap partition, it no longer contains any files.
[08:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok leontopod my kmoustool says revision kde 4.5
[08:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> mousetool
[08:58] <ryevision> hoshi411: running swap on a separate partition prevents many threats
[08:59] <ryevision> Newb: phonon or pulseaudio?
[08:59] <leontopod> WhereIsMySpoon, http://www.intertwingled.net/aboutkde.png
[08:59] <Newb> pulse audio
[08:59] <leontopod> that is what it shows for me
[08:59] <Newb> Ive tried every setting
[08:59] <ryevision> naeh, sorry, not been using pa for long
[09:00] <Newb> every configuration
[09:00] <ryevision> Newb: make sure you have the right backend and right output metod configuret both in system settings and in application settings
[09:00] <ryevision> it is the most frequent trivial mistake occured
[09:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> leontopod, i dont have a file settings help thing
[09:00] <Newb> ryevision, will do
[09:01] <Companion> !version
[09:01] <ryannathans> How can I ensure the latest kernel is used on my liveusb?
[09:01] <Companion> [companion@cube ~]$ lsb_release -a -> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[09:01] <ryevision> Newb: if you don't find your way, find someone knowledgeable in pulseaudio
[09:01] <ja1lulu> windows 8 vs ubuntu 12.04 ?
[09:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> 11.04, natty, leontopod
[09:01] <Newb> ryevision, will tks
[09:01] <ryevision> Newb: sometimes purging PA and then reinstalling after reboot might work
[09:02] <leontopod> WhereIsMySpoon, in my KDE there are two different ways to set screen savers
[09:02] <leontopod> I don't know why there are two.
[09:02] <rodgersayshi> goodnight guys !
[09:02] <Companion> leontopod, screensavers are so 90's : /
[09:02] <leontopod> But you might want to try both and see which one works better for you.
[09:02] <ryannathans> how do i change kernel on a liveusb?
[09:02] <ja1lulu> whois ja1lulu
[09:02] <Newb> ryevision, How would I found out if my sound card is suported by pulse audio
[09:02] <ryannathans> I need to ensure the default included kernel of the live usb is NOT EVER used.
[09:02] <ryannathans> it hasa bug
[09:03] <Jordan_U> ja1lulu: This channel is not for rating OSs. It's for Ubuntu technical support only (and only of released versions, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support).
[09:03] <Fyodorovna> ryannathans, a liveusb is running off the live cd, even with persistent you don't want a kerenel upgrade.
[09:03] <ryevision> ryannathans: what loader do you use?
[09:03] <MrHarptastic> ok.. I'm sure you guys get this a lot..  How do I get the probe to check for Windows..?  I've got it on a separate partition...
[09:03] <ryannathans> Fyodorovna: loader? I just dd?
[09:03] <ryannathans> sorry,
[09:03] <ryannathans> ryevision:
[09:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> leontopod, im not running kubuntu, im running xubuntu as a window manager
[09:03] <Fyodorovna> ryannathans, good luck.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> ryevision: If you want an Ubuntu install on a USB drive, rather than just an Ubuntu installer, I highly recommend simply installing Ubuntu to the USB as you would to an internal drive.
[09:04] <ryannathans> RIPPING IDEA
[09:04] <leontopod> WhereIsMySpoon, oh, well have fun with that! =D
[09:04] <ryannathans> install ubuntu to raid array with iomuu off
[09:04] <ryannathans> update kernel
[09:04] <ryannathans> enable iomuu
[09:04] <leontopod> WhereIsMySpoon, you go!
[09:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> leontopod, ?
[09:04] <ryannathans> thanks!!!
[09:04] <leontopod> I am running Slackware with KDE 4 and my screensavers work!
[09:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> im not USING kubuntu
[09:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> so i dont see how thats relevant
[09:05] <leontopod> hey, just sayin'!
[09:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> shall i file a bug about this then?
[09:05] <leontopod> you gotta do what you gotta do, WhereIsMySpoon
[09:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> you're supremely unhelpful, leontopod
[09:06] <leontopod> we aim to please!
[09:06] <ryevision> Jordan_U: you probably wanted to assist ryannathans with that. but you are highly welcome to assist my problem as well :)
[09:06]  * WhereIsMySpoon slaps leontopod around the face with a wet haddock
[09:07] <leontopod> hahaha
[09:07] <leontopod> WhereIsMySpoon, I say for now, turn all screensavers OFF.
[09:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have already
[09:08] <ryevision> Jordan_U: I have set up pam to use fprint authentication as "sufficient" (two attempts before falling back to pam_unix). It works once logged in the system, but on first login, it fails twice to iniciate the finger scan and then only takes the password auth
[09:08] <MrHarptastic> running ubuntu 11.10.    I can't get back to Windows.  i've tried  "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" to make changes but I'm getting nowhere
[09:09] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Ubuntu uses grub2, which no longer uses /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[09:09] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | MrHarptastic
[09:09] <SuperNova> hey
[09:09] <ryevision> Jordan_U: it is unlikely to be an udev issue, but still, hardware fails to read on first kdm use, though querried by pam
[09:09] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: What happens when you try to boot Windows?
[09:09] <SuperNova> take a look at this! never expected that! Kristen Stewart to act topless in the movie "Are you Cumming?". Take a look at her leaked first topless photoshoot: http://leakyneuron.blogspot.in/
[09:10] <hot_wheelz> Hi,
[09:10] <hot_wheelz> I am trying to install and test the YouTube Lens but requires the following package to run
[09:10] <hot_wheelz> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/base/gir1.2-dee-0.5
[09:10] <hot_wheelz> The problem being that it appears to have been pulled from the repository so as you would expect it fails to install any idea why anyone?
[09:10] <hot_wheelz> Thanks.
[09:10] <FloodBot1> hot_wheelz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <MrHarptastic> I don't get the option.. I've tried everything at bios, but goes straight to to ubuntu.
[09:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> Jordan_U, why was SuperNova banned? ^^ He's previously made trouble here?
[09:11] <MrHarptastic> ^^
[09:12] <ryevision> MrHarptastic: have you tried grub to autodetect your OS-es?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[09:13] <MrHarptastic> I have not. I'm still fresh to ubuntu. going on 48 hours now..lol
[09:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> lol its a nice first experience then MrHarptastic :D
[09:14] <Jordan_U> WhereIsMySpoon: Their message was not appropriate for #ubuntu in itself, and I suspect that the link was mallicious as well (do *not* visit it).
[09:14] <MrHarptastic> yes it is..lol I'll try that Jordan ^^
[09:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh lol
[09:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> Jordan_U, i didnt spot his spam
[09:15] <MrHarptastic> I'm getting:      /dev/sdc1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[09:15] <MrHarptastic>
[09:16] <ryevision> please, anyone knowledgeable in PAM authentication here? :(
[09:16] <jtannenbaum> I had to xkill VGA and now none of my windows have borders
[09:16] <jtannenbaum> (ubuntu 10.04)
[09:16] <jtannenbaum> how do I like restart/refresh the window environment
[09:17] <VIPER-II> guys... what's the command again to format a hdd with NTFS?
[09:17] <ryevision> sudo service restart gdm
[09:17] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Then try running "sudo update-grub" and after it's finished try rebooting. You should get a menu at boot allowing you to choose between Ubuntu and Windows.
[09:17] <MrHarptastic> nice. That's what I wanted
[09:17] <MrHarptastic> Ill try and report
[09:18] <jtannenbaum> ryevision: or yknow logging me out works too
[09:19] <jasonmsp> other than creating a symboli link, how do I show mounted drives on the desktop in unity for 11.10??
[09:19] <ryevision> jtannenbaum: restarting system, or xserver fixes a lot of issues
[09:20] <zlynx1> when im running tutorials on java webased i lost my sound. i can't play music anymore but the sounds on the tutorial works
[09:20] <zlynx1> ?
[09:20] <leontopod> oh god, java
[09:20] <MrHarptastic> Didn't work Jordan. It just booted back into ubuntu.
[09:20] <jasonmsp> 11.10 gconf-editor doesnt have an option for desktop in apps > nautilus.  Only desktop-metadata.
[09:21] <seth> what is the best file transfer program for linux?
[09:21] <leontopod> scp
[09:21] <zlynx1> seth: Filezilla
[09:21] <seth> I use filezilla on windows
[09:21] <leontopod> I disagree.  The best file transfer program for linux is scp!
[09:21] <seth> but didn't knowif there was a better one in linux
[09:21] <lwizardl> anyone here know how to setup a android dev setup on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ? the guide on the android site isn't working properly anymore. I was reading it deals with the RSA hack months ago and have not been fixed for the usage guide yet
[09:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> scp works pretty well tbf
[09:22] <Jordan_U> !best | seth
[09:22] <seth> ok, what is your favorite FTP client for linux?
[09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> iirc konqueror can be set up to be an ftp client
[09:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> not sure though
[09:23] <MrHarptastic> ^^
[09:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> seth - i dont know, google it
[09:24] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Well that's odd. Just for reference this is very rare, and you're unfortunately going to have to get your hands dirty in your early introduction to Ubuntu.
[09:24] <dooglus> seth: I like lftp on the command line, TRAMP in Emacs, my gf's daughter uses gftp, and filezilla is in the repos too if you like that
[09:24] <dooglus> !info filezilla
[09:24] <MrHarptastic> lol. I'm already hitting Google, so I feel you..bahaha
[09:24] <MrHarptastic> It's cool. I like a challenge
[09:24] <leontopod> dooglus, that is mighty nice of you
[09:24]  * WhereIsMySpoon gives MrHarptastic a cookie
[09:25] <seth> appreciate it guys. thanks!!
[09:25] <MrHarptastic> nomnomnomnomnom
[09:25] <seth> I guess I'll use good ole filezilla
[09:25] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Ubottu is going to send you information about running boot info script. If you need any clarification on any of the instructions feel free to ask.
[09:25] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | MrHarptastic
[09:25] <leontopod> isn't filezilla just an extension?
[09:25] <MrHarptastic> thanks guys! I'll let you know what happens for reference.
[09:25] <ryevision> WhereIsMySpoon: WhereIsMyCookie?
[09:26] <dooglus> leontopod: no
[09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> I gave it to MrHarptastic
[09:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> He ate it
[09:26] <MrHarptastic> ^^ :)
[09:26] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Well, my plan was that you would pastebn the RESULTS.txt from boot info script for me to see :)
[09:26] <MrHarptastic> on it
[09:26] <zlynx1> i have sound problem on my ubuntu can anybody help me out here ?
[09:26] <seth> whats wrong?
[09:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> Jordan_U, have you heard of anyone having a problem with screensavers in 11.04 (using xfce as window manager) with ati card/drivers?
[09:27] <zlynx1> seth: whenever i'm running a webbase tutorials i can't play music using audacious ?
[09:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> i keep getting could not handle kernel paging request at fffffc if i keep screensavers running
[09:27] <jasonmsp> seth: filezilla for sure.
[09:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> and when i turned them off, it doesnt happen anymore
[09:28] <Jordan_U> WhereIsMySpoon: Not in particular, no.
[09:28] <leontopod> ok, now I have to go looking for an ftp extension to firefox
[09:28] <leontopod> I bet there is one!
[09:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> Jordan_U, also, every time it crashes like this, my /etc/network/interfaces file gets corrupted
[09:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i have to regenrate it
[09:28] <zlynx1>  leontopod: and seth: that is why i chose filezilla coz it also has addon on firefox
[09:29] <seth> have you tried other music players?
[09:29] <leontopod> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fireftp/
[09:29] <leontopod> tada!
[09:29] <seth> always good to test other clients so you know its not a system thing, but client
[09:29] <BoxyK> There's a warning in Ubuntu that the full-charge capacity of the battery has dropped. Does anyone know where to configure the threshold for this warning?
[09:29] <Jordan_U> WhereIsMySpoon: That makes absolutely no sense. I have no idea what is going on there.
[09:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> Jordan_U, what should I do then?
[09:30] <Jordan_U> WhereIsMySpoon: I don't know.   That was the worst google search ever.  Does anyone know of another way other than using gnome-tweak-tool to put the mounted drives on the 11.10 desktop?
[09:33] <BoxyK> There's a warning in Ubuntu that the full-charge capacity of the battery has dropped. Does anyone know where to configure the threshold for this warning?
[09:33] <ryevision> Jordan_U: please, do you have any insides on that login problem i described?
[09:33] <seth> zlynx1 have you checkd alexia mixer? or whatever its called?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> ryevision: No, I don't.
[09:34] <MrHarptastic> Jordan_u: did you see my link?
[09:34] <MrHarptastic> just checking.
[09:34] <zlynx1>  seth: no not yet, don't know about that ? i believe it's an issue with my sound ..just don't know how to troubleshoot ..
[09:35] <ryevision> zlynx1: seth: alsa mixer yo mean?
[09:35] <seth> yes
[09:36] <seth> $ alsamixer
[09:36] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Yes. My guess is that grub is attempting to show a boot menu, and the boot menu is technically "there" for ten seconds, and you're just not able to see it for some reason. Do you see ten or more seconds of black screen during boot?
[09:36] <hiexpo> jasonmsp, it no longer mounts the drives on the desktop > I use 10.04  > that would be a bummer but you can always get to the drive through places I believe
[09:36] <ryevision> zlynx1: you can check input/output volumes and PCM settings in alsamixer
[09:36] <seth> had some problems with my sound and went there and messed around with settings
[09:36] <ryevision> it's just an extended cli sound mixer
[09:36] <ryevision> check if your PCM is not muted
[09:37] <jasonmsp> hiexpo: thanks.  I really need them on the desktop.  gnome-tweak-tool worked to 'show mounted on desktop' but it would be nice to find another way to do it.
[09:37] <Sharaak> hey guys
[09:37] <seth> alsamixer has almost every sound control so you should be able to trouble shoot it there
[09:37] <Lucifer> yeahhh
[09:37] <Ch_Iossif> Hi to all! RAID problem on 12.04b1 - more: paste.ubuntu.com/869743 - any ideas?
[09:37] <MrHarptastic> Jordan_U:   Absolutely. and that was something I was trying to figure out. My screen is blank and my monitor is putting out it's resolution settings for that 10 second period
[09:37] <Jordan_U> !pangolin | Ch_Iossif
[09:37] <MrHarptastic> I thought it was just loading or something..lol
[09:37] <zlynx1> ryevision & seth: they are 100% i can hear sounds on my webbase tutorials but not on my audacious or any sound client ...
[09:37] <hiexpo> jasonmsp, thats wierd cause my 10.04 auto does it
[09:38] <seth> go through the settings
[09:38] <jasonmsp> hiexpo: yes.  I'm on 11.10 now.
[09:38] <jasonmsp> hiexpo: 10.04 used to do it for me as well.
[09:38] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: That is when the boot menu is (attempting to be) displayed :)
[09:38] <Sharaak> i have a problem im running windows 7 64-bit home premium and am unable to get the windows installer to run at all. Could you help please
[09:38] <ryevision> zlynx1: in pulseaudio settings, check if you have right default backend selected
[09:38] <seth> has to be conflicting sound outputs
[09:38] <MrHarptastic> hardware issue?
[09:39] <ryevision> zlynx1: maybe your applications try read wrong backend
[09:39] <MrHarptastic> I did have some issues with my video card when I installed.
[09:39] <hiexpo> jasonmsp, thats why i stay with 10.04 if it is not broke why try to fix it
[09:39] <lessless> hello guys, have a problem here - although i installed mdbtools there is no open mdb file in libre base and google gived me no extra help
[09:40] <MrHarptastic> Jordan_U: I switched to the (recommended) video card driver when I installed
[09:40] <leontopod> KrissyP!?
[09:40] <jasonmsp> hiexpo: good rule.   I was having problems though..  11.10 has been great. =)
[09:40] <leontopod> whoa
[09:40] <leontopod> it's KrissyP!
[09:40] <ryevision> naeh, bb folks
[09:41] <Jordan_U> MrHarptastic: Let's try just setting a lower resolution in the grub menu. Run "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub". You should see a line like "#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480" Remove the '#' to make it just "GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480" (that uncomments the line), save the file, run "sudo update-grub" again, then reboot.
[09:41] <MrHarptastic> Jordan_U: On it
[09:41] <zlynx1> i don't think it's the problem on the settings of my sound client coz it was just working a while ago ..it stops working when i start running a webbase java tutorials
[09:42] <MrHarptastic> bb
[09:44] <Sharaak> Can anyone explain to me why the wubi windows installer for 11.10 does not load atm? Or could at least point me in the right direction?
[09:45] <Jordan_U> Sharaak: Is there any reason not to do a standard dual boot install?
[09:46] <BoxyK> Is there anyone who knows about power saver? There's a warning in Ubuntu that the full-charge capacity of the battery has dropped (NOT the current charge level!). Does anyone know where to configure the threshold for this warning?
[09:47] <MrHarpTastic> Woot! thanks Jason_U
[09:47] <MrHarpTastic> << On windows.
[09:47] <Sharaak> There is no reason really but I would prefer to do it via windows and shouldnt the installer work anyhow?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> MrHarpTastic: You're welcome :)
[09:48] <Jordan_U> Sharaak: It should work, yes. But in general most people (myself included) recommend a normal dual boot install over a Wubi install.
[09:49] <Sharaak> Jordan_U Could you recommend a good site for installing dual boot I have done it before but I lost my windows install last time and I dont want to do that this time
[09:49] <cancer> I can't connect to any channel via Quassel IRC
[09:49] <cancer> ?
[09:50] <Jordan_U> Sharaak: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[10:00] <_tasslehoff_> my first command today "sudo rm -rf /etc/rc*.d/*". help....
[10:00] <_tasslehoff_> I *meant* to type bitlbee* ...
[10:02] <minixvbox> _tasslehoff_: quite a tupo
[10:02] <minixvbox> typo
[10:03] <_tasslehoff_> minixvbox: yep, this is looking good :)
[10:04] <airtonix> _tasslehoff_: such a shame you didn't have etckeeper installed prior to tripping over that stone
[10:04] <_tasslehoff_> wonder if I can recover this in any way, or if backup & reinstall is next
[10:04] <_tasslehoff_> airtonix: oooh. that looks like a nice tool :)
[10:04] <minixvbox> _tasslehoff_: reinstall
[10:05] <MrHarpTastic> Taking off for a bit. Thank you to all the great mods and chimers for the help tonight. +1
[10:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> _tasslehoff_, oops :P
[10:10]  * leontopod waves to WhereIsMySpoon
[10:11] <leontopod> hey buddy! =)
[10:11]  * WhereIsMySpoon drops leontopod off a bridge
[10:11] <leontopod> ouch! =(
[10:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> it was a lava pit.
[10:11] <minixvbox> !ot
[10:12] <kortsi> I upgraded to 11.10 and now I cant find a way to change the theme colors like before. Is there a way to adjust those somehow?
[10:12] <_tasslehoff_> will have to reinstall I guess. question is if I go for 11.10 or 12.04 beta
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> 11.10 is horrible
[10:12] <crizzy> why
[10:12] <minixvbox> _tasslehoff_: wait till 12.04 is released
[10:12] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: are you the same guy who was working for the tom tom group who was having problems with IP over usb
[10:12] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: 11.10 is fine without unity
[10:13] <crizzy> 11.10 is fine with unity
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, its slow and gnome3 sucks :(
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, i found out what the problem with that was and why it was happening
[10:13] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: i use xfce and its great
[10:13] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: yes, you are the same guy though ?
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes ikonia why
[10:13] <user1> hi, wireless network not connecting, pls help me
[10:14] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: because I'd like to you treat the users in here with the same respect you got when you needed help, stop ranting about things and telling people to shut up, please.
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, leontopod was making un-useful remarks and being unhelpful
[10:14] <lwizardl> ok i am getting a error when I do updates http://pastebin.com/pLQz5hD0
[10:14] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: I appreciate it may not have been helpful, but neither are you current comments, nor is telling someone to shutup.
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> alright, sorry
[10:14] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: thanks,
[10:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> ikonia, you an ubuntu dev?
[10:15] <ikonia> WhereIsMySpoon: no
[10:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> okay
[10:18] <wietze> hi Im looking for a kernel that has virtio drivers; how do I obtain such a kernel?
[10:19] <Newb> My cpu usage seems to be really high for doing menial tasks
[10:19] <Newb> any ideas
[10:19] <Newb> 83% just running firefox
[10:19] <Newb> of both prcessors
[10:20] <dooglus> Newb: too many youtube tabs open?
[10:20] <minixvbox> Newb: is flash running?
[10:20] <dooglus> Newb: flash seems to be very wasteful
[10:20] <Newb> just 8
[10:20] <Newb> I have dual core
[10:20] <dooglus> Newb: each one you close will reduce CPU usage
[10:20] <Newb> but still
[10:21] <minixvbox> Newb: what do you expect from adobe?
[10:21] <Newb> Is there a lighter weight option in terms of browser that doesnt use the same amount of cpu
[10:22] <minixvbox> Newb: i use chromium, but i think your problem is flash, not the browser
[10:22] <rexor> Newb, try chrome from google
[10:22] <raymears> hi people. i have purged the xorg-edgers ppa using apt-purge and now i can't reinstall skype... http://pastebin.com/nDksGutq any idea what i could do?
[10:22] <minixvbox> rexor: why chrome? chromium is in the repo
[10:22] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, chrome has been shown to work better in some cases than chromium
[10:23] <minixvbox> WhereIsMySpoon: what such cases?
[10:23] <Roadcrosser> I need help on booting my ubuntu 11.10 on CLI
[10:23] <Newb> rexor, will do
[10:23] <Roadcrosser> any help?
[10:23] <rexor> minixvbox, it is the same
[10:23] <Roadcrosser> I don't have access to my laptop now though
[10:23] <minixvbox> rexor: no, chrome isn't opensource
[10:23] <rexor> minixvbox, he can just downalad package and package manager will do all for him
[10:23] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Chrome-vs-Chromium-Understanding-Stable-Beta-Dev-Releases-and-Version-No-140060.shtml
[10:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> rexor, it isnt the same
[10:24] <dooglus> Newb: it's not really the browser that's using the cpu - it's the flash plugin.  all the browsers will use the same plugin, and so the same CPU
[10:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> minixvbox, basically chrome is more stable
[10:24] <Newb> hmm alternative to flash plugin dooglus ?
[10:24] <minixvbox> rexor: bottom line is if he uses a ppa (by downloading chrome) we can't support him, if he uses what is in the repo we can
[10:24] <raymears> small correction to my prev. post: i have purged the xorg-edgers ppa using ppa-purge and now i can't reinstall skype
[10:24] <jdbr> #ubuntu-cn
[10:24] <Roadcrosser> no help?
[10:25] <dooglus> Newb: there's 'gnash' I think
[10:25] <dooglus> !info gnash
[10:25] <dooglus> Newb: I don't know how well it works
[10:26] <Newb> dooglus, tks anyway
[10:26] <dooglus> and chromium is plenty stable enough
[10:26] <signal0> hey guys... i have a problem on a fresh ubuntu server installation
[10:26] <minixvbox> !info lightspark | Newb
[10:27] <lwizardl> anyone know what I have to do to fix that error ?
[10:27] <signal0> http://nopaste.info/989a201c11.html <- any idea about that??
[10:28] <Nicekiwi> If i encrypt my home directory can i access it if i plugged the hdd into another ubuntu Computer ?
[10:28] <TeodorM> Hi! any ideea how to make contiuous scroll (like in windows with click on weel)
[10:29] <the^user> hello, i have a problem, i haven move some maps from a windows pc to my ubuntu , but i can not delet them online look inside
[10:29] <the^user> do somebody know how to fix this problem
[10:31] <minixvbox> the^user: what do you mean by delete them online?
[10:31] <jiffe98> is there a way for ubuntu to be able to accept and respond to packets on a given IP, but if that same machine tries to connect to a port on that IP it is send out onto the network (meaning it doesn't think that IP is local)
[10:32] <the^user> delet them from my ubuntu machine
[10:32] <the^user> i cant delet the maps
[10:32] <minixvbox> the^user: are these maps just image files?
[10:32] <the^user> image and video
[10:33] <minixvbox> the^user: how are you trying to delete them?
[10:33] <ryannathans> I have 2 AMD 6970s. Should I install "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)" OR "ATI/AMD proprietry FGLRX graphics driver" OR BOTH?
[10:33] <the^user> just to klik on them en delet
[10:33] <minixvbox> the^user: where are they stored?
[10:33] <the^user> and my ubuntu say no way jose
[10:34] <the^user> they are stored in my complet \map
[10:34] <minixvbox> the^user: are they in your /home ?
[10:34] <the^user> yes they are
[10:34] <Etherael> Compiz has just started segfaulting for no reason.
[10:34] <Etherael> any ideas?
[10:34] <Etherael> oneiric, was working fine previously.
[10:35] <minixvbox> the^user: have you got them open with some other program when you are trying to delete them?
[10:35] <Etherael> I just ran the precise pangolin live usb to check it out but didn't do anything to my disks, came back and compiz now segfaults whenever I run it.
[10:35] <the^user> i can open and copy the items but i cant delet them
[10:35] <minixvbox> Etherael: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:35] <Etherael> also the background is back to being controlled by gnome and there single menu bar per program is plastered across the top of the screen
[10:36] <Etherael> minixvbox: As I said, I'm not using 12.04, I just liveusb'd to check it but did not install, rebooted and now it looks like my oneiric install is hosed.
[10:36] <minixvbox> Etherael: ah, sorry
[10:37] <Skei> Morning. I'm running 11.10 with GNOME 3 and was hoping someone could tell me how to append --full-screen to the gnome-terminal command that's called when I hit CTRL+ALT+T.
[10:38] <Nicekiwi>  If i encrypt my home directory can i access it if i plugged the hdd into another ubuntu Computer ?
[10:38] <ryannathans> yes.
[10:38] <ryannathans> if you are good and know the key
[10:39] <Nicekiwi> Good?
[10:39] <htetaung> how can i configure burg-manager
[10:39] <ryannathans> if you know the key, The key is like xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxx-xxxxx
[10:39] <ryannathans> not sure how it all works
[10:40] <Nicekiwi> Hmmm k
[10:40] <minixvbox> htetaung: why not just stick to grub?
[10:40] <bambanx> anyone can say me what theme is it pls http://s3.subirimagenes.com:81/imagen/previo/thump_7508097theme.png  ?
[10:43] <Jordan_U> htetaung: BURG is not supported here, and I personally recommend against its use.
[10:43] <c3sso> hello. somebody there who knows about unity greeter?
[10:43] <RedDragon> hi
[10:44] <tapout> if I select "reboot", why does it log me out instead of rebooting?
[10:44] <tapout> it happens all the time, even in the latest 12.04
[10:45] <trijntje> Since I had some trouble with my wireless network I'm no longer able to store my wireless password in the gnome-keyring, which means I must enter it every time the computer boots
[10:45] <trijntje> what can I do to fix this?
[10:47] <zcily> 各位好
[10:47] <Myrtti> !cn | zcily
[10:47] <zcily> yes
[10:52] <tapout> anyone got netbeans and xcache debugging working?
[10:52] <tapout> i've set it up, it's listening properly.. port 9001 listens..  i can telnet to it, but netbeans always says waiting for connecting
[10:52] <tapout> connection
[10:53] <bambanx> damn tweetdeck work great on ubuntu
[10:57] <Doxin> I've got a server with 3 NICs in it, but only one shows when doing ifconfig, what gives?
[10:58] <BlueWolf> “System”->”Administrator”->”Services”: I cant find Services? I am using Ubuntu 10.04.
[10:58] <florian__> hello everyone! I am trying to run a *.bin file but can't can someone help?
[10:59] <plouffe> Doxin, try iwconfig
[10:59] <minixvbox> florian__: what program is it?
[10:59] <florian__> it is a counter strike server
[10:59] <florian__> the file name is .hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:00] <florian__> i mad it executable by typing: chmod u+x hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:01] <florian__> then i try to run it wit: ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:01] <plouffe> Doxin, then "ifconfig <NIC>  up" to activate it
[11:01] <geirha> florian__: chmod +x, not u+x
[11:02] <geirha> florian__: But anyway, what's the error?
[11:02] <trijntje> Since I had some trouble with my wireless network I'm no longer able to store my wireless password in the gnome-keyring, which means I must enter it every time the computer boots. How can I fix this?
[11:02] <florian__> ok geirha, what is the difference, what does the x do
[11:02] <Doxin> plouffe: thanks
[11:02] <minixvbox> florian__: +x makes executable
[11:02] <florian__> the error is that he cant find the file, sorry i cant copy the error its in german, but thats what it translates to
[11:03] <florian__> thanx mini
[11:03] <_tasslehoff_> wohoo. copying /etc/rc*.d from a colleagues computer seems to have saved me. it managed to reboot, at least.
[11:03] <geirha> florian__: Actually, I read it as o+x which wouldn't have worked, but u+x should suffice. +x just makes it executable for all
[11:03] <seth> is there a way to use gnome shell instead of unity?? i can't stand unity.
[11:03] <crizzy> yes
[11:03] <florian__> ok geirha, thats what i thought
[11:03] <crizzy> !nounity
[11:03] <crizzy> seth: there
[11:03] <geirha> florian__: What does   file ./hldsupdatetool.bin    say?
[11:04] <tapout> netbeans+xcache debugging, zero issue setting it up on windows 7.  Works.  Same setup, won't work on ubuntu.  Anyone got the f'n thing working?
[11:04] <JonathanEllis> I just installed dropbox via the software centre on Ubuntu 11-10. After a long time, the progress indicator still says applying changes. The progress indicator is still rotating but the bar graph is not getting any longer. What can I do?
[11:04] <florian__> srcds@ubuntu-server:~$ chmod u+x hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:04] <florian__> srcds@ubuntu-server:~$ ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:04] <florian__> bash: ./hldsupdatetool.bin: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[11:04] <seth> ty
[11:04] <geirha> florian__: run the file command on it.
[11:05] <florian__> "Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden" translates to: file or path cant be found
[11:05] <florian__> how do i do that geirha, im just learning
[11:05] <geirha> florian__: file ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:05] <florian__> ./hldsupdatetool.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[11:06] <tapout> on ubuntu, if i'm logged in.. and i say REBOOT... the thing logs me out .. does NOT reboot.  why oh why?  Why wouldn't it be called "LOG OUT" if that's what they wanted it to do?
[11:06] <florian__> im running a 64 bit system, but that shouldnt be the problem, right
[11:06] <geirha> florian__: So it's because you're trying to run a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system, without having the 32 bit libraries/loader installed.
[11:07] <florian__> allright geirha, i thank you so much
[11:07] <geirha> florian__: You need to install libc6-i386 or ia32-libs or something like that. I can't check atm.
[11:07] <florian__> do you have a quik solution to that, otherwise ill do some research
[11:07] <florian__> ok thanks a lot, ill check it out
[11:08] <jkitzenabelson1> hello
[11:08] <jkitzenabelson1> how do we get help?
[11:09] <minixvbox> jkitzenabelson1: describe your problem and if someone know they will help
[11:09] <jkitzenabelson1> i cannot seem to enable the wifi and bluetooth on my computer
[11:09] <jkitzenabelson1> ive tried through terminal
[11:09] <raymears> experiencing 32/64 bit issues.  http://pastebin.com/AQ8GeWF6 any ideas anyone? thanks
[11:09] <jkitzenabelson1> ive done all the basic things
[11:10] <minixvbox> jkitzenabelson1: what wifi?
[11:10] <jkitzenabelson1> i can only connect through ethernet
[11:11] <ryannathans> After installing the 'additional drivers' for my AMD graphics card, I am no longer able to select a resolution of greater than 1920x1920.
[11:11] <ryannathans> I need a res of 5760x1080
[11:11] <crizzy> :O
[11:11] <ryannathans> I have three monitors, before installing the drivers I had my desktop across all three
[11:11] <crizzy> ryannathans: check 'amd catalyst control center' app
[11:11] <crizzy> 'ccc'
[11:13] <ryannathans> crizzy: thanks
[11:13] <JonathanEllis> I just installed dropbox via the software centre on Ubuntu 11-10. After a long time, the progress indicator still says applying changes. The progress indicator is still rotating but the bar graph is not getting any longer. What can I do?
[11:13] <ryannathans> i need to restart....
[11:13] <ryannathans> brb
[11:17] <droid-0854> Jon,  did you try top?
[11:19] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: Are you talking to me? In which case I dont understand what you are asking. There doesnt seem to be any option in the menus to terminate the install
[11:20] <Kyle6513> howdy everyone, can anyone help me with setting up a usb printer via command line?
[11:20] <droid-0854> Jon type top into terminal
[11:20] <Kyle6513> I know my printer works with gutenprint, I'm just not entirely sure how to set it up using CUPS
[11:21] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: OK. What am I looking at / for?
[11:22] <droid-0854> Something eating process resource
[11:23] <jkitzenabelson1> i need help enabling my wireless and bluetooth
[11:23] <droid-0854> If there is no package working you might try
[11:23] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: OK. dropbox has 63% CPU. xorg has 15.7%, software-center has 12.5%
[11:24] <droid-0854> so it is still working and you can kill from top
[11:25] <droid-0854> I would leave it for now
[11:25] <droid-0854> Might be lagg
[11:27] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: CPU is running at 85%. Mem: 1025944k total, 829844k used, 194708k free, 30264k buffers. Swap: 1574332k total, 98316k used, 1476016k free, 377072k cached. How long would you leave it before killing it? How do I kill it?
[11:28] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: I should clarify. CPU 87%us, 16%sy
[11:28] <droid-0854> With the letter k and the pid
[11:29] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: Thanks. dropbox has been running now for 69 minutes. How long do you think I should leave it?
[11:29] <makara> what's the bash for ssh'ing into port 7005 of a website?
[11:30] <droid-0854> Ewww um..... not my machine  :(
[11:30] <TeodorM> Hi! any ideea how to make contiuous scroll (like in windows with click on weel)
[11:31] <droid-0854> Kill when you have given up.  Restart the job
[11:31] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: No, fair enough. Its a Pentium III laptop running at 1GHz with 1GB RAM. And which process would I kill, dropbox?
[11:31] <c3sso>  uhm is somebody here who is familiar with unity greeter?
[11:31] <Kyle6513> anybody who can help me install a printer from command line?
[11:32] <makara> TeodorM: are you talking about in a browser?
[11:32] <droid-0854> Jon, ya and software center
[11:32] <TeodorM> yes.. in browser.. or in a pdf file..
[11:33] <makara> TeodorM: depends on the application. For Firefox go to Preferences > Advanced > General > Browsing > Use smooth scrolling
[11:33] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: Thanks very much.
[11:33] <droid-0854> :)
[11:35] <TeodorM> thanks.. one more...
[11:35] <Haugi_> is there an easy command to remove ppa repos? The opposite of apt-add-repository
[11:35] <LjL> !ppa-purge | Haugi_
[11:36] <Haugi_> Thanks !
[11:36] <makara> Haugi_: Synaptic > Settings > Repositories
[11:36] <Haugi_> Yeah, I know about synaptic, was just wondering if there was a way to remove it thats as easy as "apt-add-repository"
[11:37] <TeodorM> The colors in ubuntu apear diffrent from windows... the sky from pictures is not blue (like in windows)... and it is purple... why?
[11:37] <makara> TeodorM: Windows have better graphics card support
[11:38] <TeodorM> is any way to solve the problem?
[11:38] <LjL> uh, not sure graphics card support is related to color rendering
[11:38] <Kyle6513> I can't get into the HTTP side of CUPS, any suggestions anyone?
[11:39] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: You could try getting a test card bitmap and then setup your graphics card and monitor settings
[11:40] <TeodorM> ok thaks
[11:41] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: Your graphics card may allow you to adjust gain and gamma for all 3 colours. Monitor will probably have brightness, contrast and colour temperature settings. Might even have gamma
[11:41] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: You will also find room lighting conditions affect what you see / adjust
[11:42] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: You could also try taking a photo out the window, displaying that on your screen and then adjusting so the colours are similar to what you see looking out the window
[11:44] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: Without specialist equipment or at least a light meter, setting up colour on screens is a bit of guesswork and trial and error until you like the result. Broadcasters spend a lot of time lining up critical monitors in studios with light meters, calibrated paper test cards etc. As far as I know that is the only way to get identical colour rendition on multiple systems
[11:45] <leontopod> and all that doesn't matter, because I am color blind!
[11:45] <leontopod> all that work for nothing!
[11:45] <leontopod> =)
[11:45] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: I know thats probably beyond the scope of what you want to do but you can probably google for information if you are interested in the process
[11:45] <TeodorM> yea .. thaks
[11:45] <TeodorM> :)
[11:46] <droid-0854> I like the color gray.  Easy to configure
[11:48] <JonathanEllis> droid-0854: I remember setting up grayscale on projectors using a test card that had graduated brightness squares. If I remember correctly, you adjusted brightness so the 10% or 5% grey was only just distinguishable from black and the 90% or 95% grey only just distinguishable from white. I think you can probably also do the same for red, green and blue
[11:49] <droid-0854> Jon, Imma use those tips
[11:50] <jhills> hey
[11:50] <JonathanEllis> Sorry that should be brightness so 5-10% grey is just distinguishable from black and adjust contrast so 90-95% grey is just distinguishable from white. Dont quote me on the numbers though. Cant really remember but Im sure there is some info on the net somewhere about calibrating monitors
[11:50] <jhills> wat up bitches
[11:50] <jhills> ha
[11:50] <jhills> ha
[11:50] <jhills> ha
[11:50] <FloodBot1> jhills: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:52] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: You might find that works for you. Make a bitmap with graduated areas of grey, red, green and blue and adjust red, green and blue gain, plus brightness, contrast and gamma
[11:52] <droid-0854> Gunshots by computer
[11:53] <TeodorM> yea.. I plan to print a file like this.. and copare with moniotor
[11:53] <JonathanEllis> TeodorM: and droid-0854: You can find monitor test images at and information at http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
[11:54] <JonathanEllis> Enjoy!
[11:54] <droid-0854> Jon, ty
[11:55] <droid-0854> Night
[11:57] <SmokeyD> hi everyone. In the terminal I am copying one dir with "cp -pr sourcedir destdir"
[11:57] <SmokeyD> I was hoping this would preserve all permissions of sourcedir in destdir
[11:58] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[11:58] <SmokeyD> but somehow subdirectories which have permissions 755 in sourcedir are created in destdir with 700
[11:58] <ikke> hoi
[11:58] <SmokeyD> any ideas why this is?
[11:59] <kosaidpo> is there any ubuntu app that can make me create new account or reset psw in windows 7
[11:59] <jkitzenabelson1> i need help enabling my wifi
[12:00] <bazhang> kosaidpo, you'd need to be in windows to do that
[12:00] <bazhang> ##windows for more kosaidpo
[12:00] <jkitzenabelson1> i cannot enable wifi or bluetooth through terminal
[12:00] <edgar> q
[12:00] <edgar> quit
[12:00] <edgar> exit
[12:00] <kosaidpo> bazhang: ok thanks
[12:01] <jkitzenabelson1> its greyed out when i try to enable it
[12:02] <aithox_> hello how can i make my software recognized ?? i've flashplayer but i don't no how to set as default player for flash
[12:03] <dtcrshr> hello everyone! im trying to install ubuntu on this oldschool toshiba a10 notebook, but his cdrom is quite crappy, it gives me the kernel panic error (that seems very frequent, mostly in old and netbooks, google a lot about it) that is solved by recent updates. but since the cd is quite slow im wondering if theres a way to boot from a cdrom bootdisk, and after that use the usb ubuntu content, so it would be a faster install
[12:03] <dtcrshr> any clues on this direction?
[12:03] <Rickardo_> Is it possible to use ubuntu as a pass through print server like the WGPS606 from netgear?
[12:03] <tiger77> Hello i have a problem with Firefox. It crashes everytime i will log-in to puplik places,?
[12:04] <jasonmsp> hey all..  Whats the code to place in the anyapp.desktop file that will set it to "always on top"?
[12:04] <TeodorM> how can I adjust colors ? I can't find settings.. I must install something?
[12:07] <f4z8i1> Are xbindkeys still working these days in current Gnome adn KDE?
[12:10] <makara> TeodorM: I
[12:10] <TeodorM> ?
[12:10] <makara> TeodorM: hold on
[12:11] <makara> TeodorM: what version Ubuntu you got?
[12:11] <TeodorM> 11.10
[12:11] <linqering> how to login it ?
[12:11] <aithox_> #unity
[12:11] <linqering> how to login IRc pleast .
[12:11] <linqering> please ?
[12:11] <ryannathans> lolwut
[12:13] <pille> hi, could somebody help me with some wlan-problems
[12:13] <makara_> TeodorM: I just go to System Settings and there is a button for 'Color' calibration
[12:14] <aithox_> #chat
[12:14] <ryannathans> After installing the drivers for my graphics card (AMD proprietry in additional drivers), applications report they have a good frame rate, for example stellarium says I'm on 250FPS. My monitors can do 60FPS max. When I look at any 3d application, the framerate LOOKS to me like it's 30, it's very choppy. I turn vsync on and framerate is limited at 60FPS, however, the issue is not resolved. I can't stand everything being so choppy! What shoul
[12:14] <TeodorM> yes.. but in color I have camera to adjust... I want to adjust monitor colors
[12:15] <aithox_> hello how can i make my software recognized ?? i've flashplayer but i don't no how to set as default player for flash
[12:15] <linqering> 大家好
[12:16] <santoshfamily> is there any site from where i can get shell theme !
[12:16] <ryannathans> aithox_: right click application, it's in properties.
[12:16] <linqering> how to login in ORC please /
[12:16] <ryannathans> santoshfamily: tried googling it?
[12:16] <linqering> is / ?? NickServ identified ?..
[12:16] <ryannathans> linqering: you mean IRC?
[12:16] <ryannathans> linqering: ask in #freenode (/join #freenode)
[12:16] <crizzy> santoshfamily: http://gnome-shell.deviantart.com/gallery/28081982
[12:16] <pilleee1124> hi guys, could somebody help me with some wlan-problems?
[12:16] <linqering> ryannathans, I have registered .
[12:17] <ryannathans> linqering: it's offtopic in this room. Ask in #freenode. it's probably /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD
[12:17] <ryannathans> After installing the drivers for my graphics card (AMD proprietry in additional drivers), applications report they have a good frame rate, for example stellarium says I'm on 250FPS. My monitors can do 60FPS max. When I look at any 3d application, the framerate LOOKS to me like it's 30, it's very choppy. I turn vsync on and framerate is limited at 60FPS, however, the issue is not resolved. I can't stand everything being so choppy! What shoul
[12:17] <aithox_> ryannathans: i can't find my software list there.. i manually installed it
[12:18] <crizzy> ryannathans: probably compiz
[12:18] <crizzy> ryannathans: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38028/performance-being-really-choppy-with-ati-drivers see this, answer #1
[12:18] <ryannathans> thanks
[12:18] <aithox_> i can run it via terminal like this " FlashPlayer "
[12:18] <crizzy> ryannathans: i have 120hz lcd myself, compiz'es default limitation of 50fps.. THAT was choppy :)
[12:19] <Skei> Morning. I'm still failing at getting CTRL+ALT+T to load up gnome-terminal with --full-screen, using 11.10 and GNOME 3. I've added --full-screen to several places under gconf-editor but that hasn't helped. Any suggestions ? Thanks.
[12:19] <crizzy> ryannathans: just drag it to the max (200)
[12:19] <pilleee1124> hi guys, could somebody help me with some wlan-problems?
[12:20] <ryannathans> crizzy: oh boy... ccsm. I'm scared.
[12:20] <ryannathans> I touched this last time...
[12:20] <user1> hi, how to install apache webserver in ubuntu 11.10
[12:20] <crizzy> ryannathans: hehe.. be careful with it. only do those tasks
[12:20] <ryannathans> user1: sudo apt-get install apache2 or something
[12:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:21] <user1> thanks - ryannanthans
[12:21] <pilleee1124> hi guys, could somebody help me with some wlan-problems? It seems that the acer-hotkey doesn't work.
[12:22] <makara_> TeodorM: monitor doesn't show in the color settings menu?
[12:22] <TeodorM> no
[12:22] <ryannathans> pilleee1124: please provide more information other than  'this doesn't work'
[12:22] <makara_> user1: you need to research this
[12:22] <makara_> user1: there are many installs, based on your needs
[12:23] <linqering> ryannathan
[12:23] <ryannathans> ?
[12:23] <linqering> ryannathans, I did it .thanks vary much.4
[12:23] <ryannathans> no worries.
[12:24] <pilleee1124> okay... the terminal command "iwconfig | grep -A4 wlan" says this:
[12:24] <pilleee1124> wlan0            RT2860 Wireless  ESSID:""  Mode:Auto  Frequency:2,412GHz      Link Quality:10/100  Signal level: 0dbm Noise Level:-143dbm      Rx  invalid nwid:0  Rx  invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0    Tx Excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0  Missed beacon:0
[12:24] <crizzy> http://www.foopics.com/showfull/9b8f8c4f91f8f4a5e9bbd25a262aaa70 my unity seems to like gedit ? :)
[12:24] <Gage_> I was browsing the internet with Google Chrome and it suddenly logged out. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04. This has happened before.
[12:25] <ryannathans> crizzy: that happened to me too. Except with the application 'mumble'
[12:25] <makara_> Gage_: Xorg issue I think. I was using Firefox - created a new tab. Also when I preview a picture with large dimensions
[12:25] <ryannathans> I hate unity.
[12:25] <Gage_> I was saving a picture
[12:25] <makara_> Gage_: dimensions?
[12:25] <Gage_> sec
[12:25] <makara_> ryannathans: why?
[12:25] <ryannathans> crizzy: do i need to reboot after the compiz?
[12:26] <pilleee1124> the command "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" shows this: 2:00.0 Network Controller [0280]: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3090]      Kernel driver in use: rt3090      Kernel modules: rt3090sta
[12:26] <pilleee1124> it seems that the driver is loaded and works correctly
[12:26] <mintman> ryannathans: wow
[12:26] <aibo> hello, after booting up my system I always get /etc/resolv.conf empty, what should I do to always have `nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>` there ?
[12:26] <ryannathans> makara_: reasons such as those demonstrated in that image. It's really dumb for mouse users.
[12:26] <ryannathans> if i had a tablet it would be okay
[12:26] <crizzy> ryannathans: logout should be enough
[12:26] <Gage_> 568 x 577 pixels
[12:26] <makara_> aibo: you need to turn of networking I think. It writes over resolv.conf
[12:27] <makara_> aibo: or set the DNS using the GUI
[12:27] <Gage_> ryannathans: Lifehacker has an article on how to make 11.10 look like previous versions with gnome-fallback-session
[12:27] <aibo> makara_, concretely? I'm on ubuntu server, so command-line only
[12:28] <yt372> I'm trying out 12.04 - can someone tell me how I change the theme?
[12:28] <aibo> makara_, here is my /etc/networking/interfaces http://pastie.org/private/exghqn79lbsb4sdoynpwa
[12:29] <Gage_> Lol, I just refuse to update to 11.10.
[12:29] <Gage_> Unity's horrible.
[12:30] <makara_> ryannathans: goto compiz and hide the launcher. Get Docky and load all your start icons into that. I have a shortcut key when I need the launcher to run a program as root or empty the trash bin but thats it
[12:30] <mosno> Gage_, 11.10 + GNOME Shell == reasonable alternative
[12:30] <makara_> ryannathans: there's also Cairo dock - software centre
[12:30] <mosno> ie. you still get your gnome session
[12:30] <makara_> gnome-fallback didn't do it for me
[12:30] <mosno> ah, if you don't have 3D i don't recommend GS
[12:31] <Silverback> Well, day one of Xubuntu on a very old P-III - Seems to be very good and much lighter on the system than XP. Yep, I am a very olde "newbie".
[12:31] <Gage_> mm
[12:32] <aibo> makara_, solved
[12:33] <makara_> aibo: what was it?
[12:33] <aibo> makara_, apt-get remove resolvconf
[12:33] <makara_> thanks
[12:34] <dr_willis>  Unity in 12.04 iis very useable
[12:34] <makara_> isn't beta out today?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> my unity 3d is ruined
[12:36] <mosno> dr_willis, any faster?
[12:36] <mosno> dr_willis, and is it still using compiz?
[12:37] <dr_willis> Yes and yes
[12:38] <yt372> I'm trying out 12.04 - can someone tell me how I change the theme?
[12:38] <paradiesstaub> I'm currently testing precise. My PC just crashed compleatly and I on't know how to report the crash - could be the kernel or compiz.
[12:39] <ikkee> ?
[12:39] <dr_willis> See #ubuntu+1 paradiesstaub
[12:40] <paradiesstaub> thx
[12:42] <ryannathans> yay, better frame rate!
[12:42] <ryannathans> looks smexy now.
[12:43] <crizzy> >
[12:43] <crizzy> :>
[12:43] <ryannathans> next, updating AMD Catalyst™ Proprietary Display Driver - Linux x86 & Linux x86_64  to 12.1
[12:43] <baldaris> hey guys , i have installed Virtualbox , when trying to install windows 7 , I am getting this error message ...been reading though forums..but cant seem to fix it..can some suggest me what i could do?Failed to open a session for the virtual machine windows 7.
[12:43] <baldaris> Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_WORLD_WRITABLE).
[12:44] <bazhang> baldaris, try in #vbox if you don't get an answer here
[12:44] <crizzy> ryannathans: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Create_.deb_packages.
[12:45] <baldaris> bazhang, i tried there...after that i am here
[12:45] <crizzy> ryannathans: basically just download, chmod the file, run buildpkg, install debs, initial config, and reboot
[12:45] <crizzy> (has worked always for me like that)
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> baldaris  https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40525&start=0
[12:47] <seth_> how do i get rid of unity?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> !nounity
[12:47] <ryannathans> crizzy: the 11.9 is installed
[12:47] <ryannathans> /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh is missing...
[12:48] <crizzy> ryannathans: just install on top of old debs, works
[12:48] <bennyp> Hi. I'm installing ubuntu on a public computer (in a youth hostel lobby actually) Is there a card I can print out and attach to the monitor of an Ubuntu install in order to give users a heads up to why the computer looks different and purple?
[12:48] <user1> hi, how to check network monitoring for all users in office, in ubuntu 11.10
[12:48] <jah> whois
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> bennyp  there's this, moment
[12:49] <ryannathans> crizzy: the installer is complaining the old one isn't uninstalled
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> bennyp  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/ubuntu-ads-start-appearing-online/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
[12:50] <Squarism> is there some graphical alternative to TOP ?
[12:50] <ryannathans> Squarism: htop
[12:50] <crizzy> Squarism: 'system monitor'
[12:50] <baldaris> MonkeyDust, trying to install Oracle VM Virtual Box 4.0.6 Extension Pack
[12:50] <baldaris> lets see what happens
[12:50] <crizzy> ryannathans: build the debs, don't run the installer itself
[12:51] <crizzy> ryannathans: then dpkg -i *deb
[12:51] <bennyp> MonkeyDust: looking more for something print formatted, preferably with basic instructions "IE = Firefox, Office = Libre" "Start Menu= Panel", etc
[12:51] <bennyp> something I could glue to the side of the computer monitor
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> bennyp  why not make it yourself?
[12:52] <bennyp> MonkeyDust: love to, but my schedule is tight.
[12:53] <ryannathans> crizzy: it says it generated it and put it in the current dir, it didn't
[12:53] <crizzy> sure you ran it with sudo ?
[12:54] <ryannathans> yeah, i was missing dependencies
[12:54] <ryannathans> trying again
[12:54] <crizzy> ryannathans: you might be missing the required tools then: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Before_you_start
[12:54] <yt372> bennyp: Even people who haven't used Linux are familiar with Firefox. You could always rename shortcuts as "Internet", "Office" etc.
[12:55] <ryannathans> crizzy: yeah i read the log and got the right ones
[12:55] <bennyp> yt372: that's fine, but if something nice is prepared already, it'd be nice to leave the client with something
[12:56] <ryannathans> \o/ building
[12:56] <bennyp> yt372: MonkeyDust , this is a little closer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Materials?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Look-alikeContest%28uk%29.pdf
[12:58] <Squarism> ryannathans, crizzy : i must say both of them are so-so in determining giving a good overview of what is eating memory / cpu... theres no tool like "disk usage analyzer" but for memory? I mean some graphical thingy... both htop an S.M. doesnt show subtree totals for mem...
[12:59] <ryannathans> Squarism: can't you just use htop and sort by memusage
[12:59] <ryannathans> brb, restarting
[13:00] <Squarism> ryannathans, not in tree mode... and in flatmode i get all damn subprocess/threads which gives me a damn long list
[13:01] <crizzy> Squarism: well.. system monitor can show processes and their memory usage, no?
[13:02] <yt372> I'm trying out 12.04 - can someone tell me how I change the theme?
[13:02] <Daekdroom> !precise | yt372
[13:03] <elmira> hi
[13:03] <ultrixx> which blogging software is the best that i can use on ubuntu-server?
[13:04] <yt372> ultrixx: Is this to run a blog on a webserver, or for the user to write a blog?
[13:04] <ikonia> ultrixx: you can use any blogging software you want
[13:04] <ultrixx> yt372: to run a blog on a server
[13:04] <ultrixx> i have heard that wordpress is so insecure
[13:04] <ikonia> ultrixx: ubuntu server is no different than any other web server host, so you can select any one you like
[13:04] <yt372> ultrixx: I recommend Wordpress. It's very popular, and user friendly for just blogs
[13:05] <ikonia> ultrixx: the guys in the #wordpress channel can explain it's pros/cons to you
[13:05] <yt372> ultrixx: They respond and fix security problems which are reported.
[13:05] <ultrixx> yt372,ikonia: thanks
[13:07] <lele5800> Hi!!
[13:09] <faLUCE> hi, is there a REALLY GOOD alternative to rosegarden for midi editing?
[13:09] <ikonia> faLUCE: music production general has poor products on linux from experience
[13:09] <ikonia> the tools for "mucking around" are fine
[13:10] <faLUCE> ikonia: this is not an useful answer
[13:10] <faLUCE> I'm sure there's something good.
[13:10] <ikonia> faLUCE: it is the truth though
[13:10] <ikonia> faLUCE: if you are sure there is something good, why are you asking
[13:10] <ikonia> faLUCE: if you are sure it exists, go and find it
[13:10] <faLUCE> because I can't find it
[13:11] <ikonia> rather than accepting that the product range is poor in general, as I'v suggested, I used a ton of tools and always go back to the industry backed tools which are unavailable on linux
[13:11] <ikonia> faLUCE: also, please don't cross post the same question in multiple ubuntu channels, it's cross-posting spam and not useful
[13:12] <artz> hi.. how to determine problem on local network fileserver? it cancels  sftp connections on bigger load - over 1000 files....
[13:12] <jasonmsp> hey all.  How can I change the display settings to default in unity from a recovery terminal?  I was changeing the display and I lost the ability to interface.
[13:12] <jasonmsp> I can't see anything as the screen is all garbaled.
[13:13] <artz> just cancels, and every program that is connected to fileserver crashes.... i have tried many computers to connect... so it must be server fault... but cannot find any log :S
[13:15] <cwainey> I'm having a small problem with streaming HD flash videos... I'm using Oneric with several browsers, all of which have the same problem... the HD videos are choppy. Any advice?
[13:17] <ensi> hi, i just installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS, why am i getting "403 forbidden" when trying to install packages
[13:17] <ensi> such as mesa-utils
[13:17] <ensi> i have apt-get updated and apt-get --fix-missing to no end
[13:17] <ensi> still b0rked
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> ensi  sudo apt-get upadate, first
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> ensi  sudo apt-get update, first
[13:17] <mosdef100200> Hi there I have got ubuntu 10.10 running as wubi install can i install ubuntu 11.10 wubi beside the other ubutu on startup?
[13:17] <ensi> MonkeyDust: like i said i have done that already
[13:18] <ikonia> ensi: 403 is coming from the repo you are using, validate that repo is running
[13:18] <ensi> ikonia: how?
[13:18] <shipper_> hello, is someone here who knows somthing about mwlib and renderserver?? i need help T_T
[13:18] <ikonia> ensi: well you can see the url apt is trying to use, validate that
[13:19] <ensi> ikonia: well it reponds to ping
[13:19] <ensi> but i guess its not working otherwise
[13:19] <ikonia> ensi: ping is not a web response
[13:19] <ikonia> ensi: check it's running the repo over http
[13:19] <ikonia> ensi: that is how apt gets the info, it downloads it from a web server
[13:19] <ensi> well i can see that
[13:20] <ensi> but if its printing the http response already.
[13:20] <ensi> ok
[13:20] <ikonia> ensi: if you can see that why are you making silly reponses like "it responds to ping"
[13:20] <encrypt> hi folks, running an upgrade and there's  a problem with the gnome-icon-theme package. it has unment dependencies and apt-get -f install does not resolve them. ??
[13:20] <ikonia> ensi: help your self as you clearly know everything already, despite asking basic questions
[13:20] <ensi> ok it ives me 403 in browser as well
[13:20] <ikonia> encrypt: do you have any 3rd party repositories or PPAs on your system
[13:20] <wylde> http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E403.html
[13:21] <encrypt> i've already unchecked them
[13:21] <ikonia> encrypt: have you installed things from them though ?
[13:21] <encrypt> probably one or two packages for the faenza icons
[13:22] <cwainey> Anyone know of any way to improve the playing of flash videos?
[13:22] <ikonia> encrypt: I suspect that will be the problem then, the PPA's will have downloaded packages which will be causing the conflict with the ubuntu packages
[13:22] <bennyp> INSTALL ISSUE: 11.10 i386 CD, graphical installer. ethernet is working (verified in firefox) but installer shows a grey "X" next to "internet connection is enabled". At next step, installer goes straight to partition table (windows is installed), but no table is presented, and options to create new table are greyed out.
[13:22] <ikonia> encrypt: it's quite a common thing for PPA's
[13:22] <ensi> ikonia: yeah i'll just do that
[13:22] <jazzkovsky> I'm trying to use wget to download a file from an ftp server. How do I apply the login data? Googled and couldn't find this ...
[13:23] <encrypt> all third party repos are disabled, only official repositories from canonical, universe and so on since upgrading to 12.04
[13:23] <dwatkins> jazzkovsky: the wget manpage has details on this, type "man wget" to open it or it's available online at various places also
[13:23] <ikonia> encrypt: yes, but disabling AFTER you've installed things is too late, as the packages that cause the conflict are already installed on your systme
[13:24] <encrypt> problem is that i cannot run any upgrade
[13:24] <jazzkovsky> dwatkins: thx
[13:24] <encrypt> so should i remove those faenza icons...
[13:24] <ikonia> encrypt: no, as I've said, it's quite common with PPA's to create conflicts, as a lot / most PPA's ae not maintained
[13:25] <jasonmsp> wheres the best play to share a screenshot here to show the issues I'm having with my display?
[13:25] <encrypt> or maybe purge all non-official repos  and re-run the upgrade??
[13:25] <fixxxermet> Hey guys.  I'm looking for a plugin of sorts for gnome that would, when I open new terminals, open them not on top of each other, but evenly across my desktop.
[13:25] <jasonmsp> The display needs to be reset as I can't interface with anything.
[13:25] <fixxxermet> I'm using 10.04.3
[13:25] <Mahmoud> hi -- i have disk encryption, and following an improper shutdown (forced) while hybernating, i booted up my laptop again but my ~/Documents is just empty (ls shows no files!) -- hints?
[13:26] <venon> exist 64 and 32 bit procesor ? :D
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> venon  is that a question?
[13:27] <ikonia> encrypt: you can try but I doubt that will resolve the issue
[13:27] <venon> MonkeyDust yes
[13:28] <jasonmsp> hey all.  I could really use the help.  My desktop/work computer is an oversized paperweight right now until I can determine how to reload the default display option, or clear it otherwise.
[13:28] <bennyp> The 11.10 graphical installer does not recognize my (working) ethernet connection or my (working) windows partition. any advice on how to proceed?
[13:28] <encrypt> since it is an icon-theme package, guess will have to do with other icon packages, probably the faenza icons? ive read one or two bad things about those
[13:29] <venon> MonkeyDust you know ?
[13:29] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[13:29] <ryannathans> fuuuu
[13:29] <ganesh_ariveguru> hi....can anyone tell about zodb blobs...?
[13:29] <kosaidpo> is there any app other than chntpsw that i can use to make new account in win ??
[13:30] <venon> is 64 and 32 bit procesor or its only os ...
[13:30] <venon> ?
[13:30] <kosaidpo> cus chntpsw clear only psw so my problem is the account that i wanna use it doesnt exist anymore in the list so i need to create new one
[13:30] <ryannathans> amd ccc fails to change display settings. I want all three displays be be on same desktop (total res about ~6000x1080)
[13:30] <wylde> venon: to use 64 bit OS you must have at minimum a dual core processor
[13:31] <encrypt> this is the output from apt:The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:31] <encrypt> gnome-icon-theme-full: Depends: gnome-icon-theme (= 3.3.91-0ubuntu1) but <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2 is installed gnome-icon-theme-symbolic:
[13:31] <ryannathans> wylde: I disagree
[13:31] <ikonia> encrypt: that doesn't change what I said earlier
[13:31] <ryannathans> wylde: my intel atom netbook has 1 core. 64bit.
[13:31] <dwatkins> venon: there are both 32 and 64 bit CPUs, you can install 32 or 64-bit operating systems on a 64-bit processor, but only 32-bit OS on a 32-bit CPU
[13:31] <venon> wylde I asked if that is 64 and 32 bit processor
[13:32] <Hamed> hi every body i have laptop dell inspiron 6400. wifi working but eth0 not working
[13:32] <Hamed> ?
[13:32] <dwatkins> venon: dual core CPUs are 64-bit
[13:32] <Guest35381> hello
[13:32] <soreau> Hamed: What makes you think it isn't working?
[13:32] <wylde> ryannathans: true enough, regardless you have to have specific hardware to use 64 Bit
[13:32] <venon> and core 2 duo ? :D
[13:32] <crashanddie> venon, core 2 duo is 64-bit.
[13:33] <encrypt> so a single package is forcing me to do what, reinstall the OS????
[13:33] <crashanddie> venon, core duo isn't.
[13:33] <venon> but can i install 32 bit os ?  or only 64  ?
[13:33] <ikonia> encrypt: no, you can manually fix the dependency if you can
[13:33] <crashanddie> you can install both, venon.
[13:33] <dwatkins> venon: core2duo is a dual core cpu
[13:33] <ikonia> encrypt: on paper though it "could" force you down that route
[13:33] <encrypt> how, apt-get -f install does not do a thing
[13:33] <venon> crashanddie ok ... but when i have only 32 bit cpu  just 32 bit os  ?
[13:34] <crashanddie> venon, yes.
[13:34] <ikonia> encrypt: that's the issue, you'll have to manually work through the package dependencies and manage the packages rather than typing blindly apt-get -f install
[13:34] <venon> crashanddie thanks :)
[13:34] <ikonia> encrypt: depending on how the depencies are linked it may be easier/more realistic to re-install, it may not, you'd need to work it through
[13:35] <hamed_> i have wifi working but eth0 wired cable not why ?
[13:35] <wylde> ryannathans: so that netbook uses an atom processor yes?
[13:35] <ryannathans> yes
[13:35] <cwainey> I'm having a small problem with streaming HD flash videos... I'm using Oneric with several browsers and official flash plugins. I have an 8600gt with proprietary drivers and I can play any other HD videos just fine, so it's a flash problem.  all of which have the same problem... the HD videos are choppy. Any advice?
[13:35] <wylde> ryannathans: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/atom/atom-processor.html <--- 2 cores
[13:35] <encrypt> so all the dependencies are to be reinstalled, thats a first step
[13:35] <ryannathans> wylde: 2 threads. 1 core.
[13:35] <ikonia> encrypt: no, as that would just re-install what you have
[13:35] <cwainey> ^^^
[13:36] <crashanddie> cwainey, flash under linux probably isn't able to use hardware accerelation
[13:36] <crashanddie> acceleration*
[13:36] <cwainey> I have run them without problem in the past.
[13:36] <encrypt> re-install all packages related to gnome-icon-theme
[13:37] <cwainey> The official flash plugin for linux has the same capabilities as the windows one.
[13:37] <ryannathans> wylde: enjoy, http://ark.intel.com/products/42503/Intel-Atom-Processor-N450-%28512K-Cache-1_66-GHz%29
[13:38] <ikonia> encrypt: no, as that won't remove / resolve the other dependencies
[13:39] <encrypt> so pls what should i re-install??
[13:39] <wylde> ryannathans:  fair enough :)
[13:40] <wylde> top
[13:40] <wylde> bah wrong window
[13:40] <hamed_> i have wifi working but eth0 wired cable not why ?
[13:40] <ikonia> encrypt: it's not as simple as "re-install packages" as I said you need to follow/work through the dependencies, and remove/install/reinstall what's needed to resolve the dependencies
[13:41] <cwainey> encrypt, you need to manually resolve the dependencies of the program you want to install/run
[13:42] <cog> My package installer stalled all night for a handful of packages, & I want synaptic & the classic window switcher.  Thanks :)
[13:42] <yt372> I'm trying out 12.04 - can someone tell me how I change the theme?
[13:42] <Pici> yt372 : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:42] <encrypt> that's a hard path for a 3-month-ubuntu-user. even if i choose not to install that specific package the same issue happens again
[13:43] <yt372> Pici: Ok, how do I change the theme in 11.10?
[13:43] <Pici> yt372: If you're running 12.04 please ask in #ubuntu+1.
[13:43] <yt372> ffs
[13:44] <ikonia> there is no need for that lagnuage
[13:44] <cog> FrendliFylSystm
[13:45] <encrypt> hey guys, synaptics has a 'fix broken packages' function!!
[13:45] <ikonia> encrypt: yes
[13:45] <cwainey> Encrypt: yes
[13:45] <will> hey guys. does anyone have experience with soundcards and ubuntu? i'm considering buying a no name brand or a creative labs soundblaster, but i'm trying to figure out which is more likely to work
[13:47] <cwainey> Linux tends to have very good soundcard support... you might have to fiddle around a bit to get it to work.
[13:47] <cwainey> will, I have yet to find a SB card that doesn't work.
[13:49] <encrypt> so synaptic is my saviour... should've started right there from the beginning
[13:49] <bennyp> is there a short FAQ for windows -> 11.10 migrants?
[13:50] <will> cwainey: i've got an x-fi that works, though the one i'm considering now (for another PC) is a cheapo one that doesn't seem to have many success stories with ubuntu online
[13:50] <will> but i'll take your recommendation in mind! i hope it'll be fine
[13:50] <geirha> bennyp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[13:51] <bennyp> geirha: thanks a mint!
[13:51] <hamed_>  i have wifi working but eth0 wired cable not. why ?
[13:51] <cwainey> will, I have an audigySE in mine, and the only problem I had with it was that I had to disable the digital output with alsamixer to get the analog working
[13:52] <bmonkj> hamed_, what does ifconfig give you?
[13:52] <wingie> i have assigned ALT+1, ALT+2, ALT+3... for my workspaces .. why isn't it switching workspace when hitting the combinations?
[13:52] <luana> ciaooo
[13:52] <will> cwainey: that one isn't huuugely more expensive, so i think i'll get that. doesn't seem to have digital output in the picture though
[13:52] <bennyp> geirha: all of that info is out of date and beyond the comprehension of my clients, unfortunately :/
[13:52] <will> cwainey: my PC tower toppled over and the only thing that seems to have broken is the sound card... :(
[13:53] <Sidewinder1> encrypt, Yes, I'm a big Synaptic fan. I've heard that the later versions won't install it by default, but that it will be available in the repos.
[13:53] <cwainey> Will, it does, the output is shared through the analog
[13:53] <encrypt> btw, following this topic, is the ubuntu-desktop package (or any other desktop package) fully functional on top of my native DE?
[13:54] <cwainey> Will: hence why it need to be disabled
[13:55] <encrypt> well, i guess it doesn't have the pretty pretty GUI to be shipped out of the box (synaptic i mean)
[13:55] <will> cwainey: that would explain it! thanks :)_
[13:55] <cwainey> Will: Also, I have the SE because I lost my onboard audio in a thunderstorm... just the audio, nothing else, so we're in the same boat :P
[13:55] <wingie> how do i switch workspace with keyboard?
[13:56] <geirha> wingie: ctrl+alt+arrow
[13:56] <cwainey> ctrl+alt+arrow
[13:56] <will> cwainey: haha, spooky. well i'm glad it worked out okay for you! now i just need to figure out whether to buy it from my local PC shop or screw them over and get it slightly cheaper online
[13:56] <geirha> bennyp: Sorry, I don't know any others.
[13:56] <wingie> geirha: thanks .. where can i find these key combinations for the enitre OS?
[13:56] <cwainey> Will: :P that ones on you...
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> encrypt, Synaptic was default in all of the versions that I have used, Gutsy, Hardy and now Lucid.
[13:56] <cwainey> Wingie... google?
[13:56] <bennyp> geirha: ok thanks though
[13:57] <geirha> wingie: keyboard settings
[13:57] <encrypt> sidewinder: things seem to have changed quite a lot since those versions, i guess
[13:57] <hamed_> module eth0 not found how can i get it ?
[13:57] <cog> how to restart ubuntu software center downloads that failed all night long
[13:58] <bmonkj> wingie, if you use unity there was a background that you could put on your desktops with shortcuts
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> encrypt, You can say that again, alas; but, I won't go there. ;-)
[13:58] <wingie> bmonkj: im on unity but no such wallpaper
[13:59] <hamed_> device not found - module not found . could any one help me
[13:59] <bmonkj> wingie, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[13:59] <oliveryty> hello
[14:00] <hamed_> eth0 device not found - module not found . could any one help me
[14:00] <encrypt> sidewinder: i just have the perspective of a new user, so can't say anything about previous versions, started with 11.10
[14:00] <pip__> could someone point me to a non-pae mini iso that I can try the 12.04 beta1 from please  If that makes sense..
[14:02] <oliveryty> who is using ubuntu 12.04
[14:03] <encrypt> only what people say in forums, seems that this linux thing (different DE and a miriad of OS) is diversifying to a point of do-it-yourself in computing
[14:03] <XLV> encrypt, yeah.. free will is a bitch
[14:04] <oliveryty> hey guys are you trying ubuntu 12.04?
[14:04] <XLV> oliveryty, topic.. ubuntu+1 specifically
[14:04] <cog> IM TRYYYYYYYYING TO USE THE PHOOOOOOOOONE
[14:04] <wingie> thx for the help all
[14:05] <waxstone> !precise
[14:05] <ikonia> cog: please stop being silly
[14:05] <denatk> ciao
[14:05] <denatk> !list
[14:05] <encrypt> xlv yeah, but so much freedom leaves you with doing the same things on different OS, which is pointless, so better stick with one and keep on riding i gues
[14:06] <MechanisM> hello anyone knows new ppa for chromium? seems like this one https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa I used before is not updated long time.
[14:06] <XLV> encrypt, its not different OS, its all linux, and even same apps.. at worse you might have different location on config files
[14:07] <encrypt> that's right, different flavours is more accurate
[14:07] <compdoc> cant wait to try  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[14:08] <MechanisM> compdoc nothing special here. I'm on 12.04 a few months
[14:08] <compdoc> MechanisM, but its not finished yet
[14:09] <encrypt> 6 month release is pretty hectic, after starting to discover the previous version you have another one on alpha or beta!
[14:10] <pip__> #lubuntu
[14:10] <MechanisM> compdoc I don't expect lot of changes. HUD is here, new login screen is here. and still nothing special yet.
[14:10] <pip__> oops,sorry
[14:11] <encrypt> synaptic is my friend, definitely :)
[14:12] <cwainey> I'm having a small problem with streaming HD flash videos... I'm using Oneric with several browsers and official flash plugins. I have an 8600gt with proprietary drivers and I can play any other HD videos just fine, so it's a flash problem.  all of which have the same problem... the HD videos are choppy. Any advice?
[14:12] <MechanisM> such a shame faenza don't offer icons for 12.04 system-settings icons.
[14:13] <godofwar> anyone know how to hibernate with ubuntu 11.10 gnome 3???
[14:14] <XLV> cwainey, hardware acceleration setting is selected in flash settings? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872979
[14:14] <Sidewinder1> !lts > encrypt
[14:14] <student> Siema
[14:14] <student1> siema
[14:14] <wingie> is it possible to virtualize Windows and Mac OS X legally from Ubuntu?
[14:14] <jpds> wingie: Yes.
[14:14] <MechanisM> cwainey yep it's flash problem. I'm playing a flash browser based 3d game and sometimes pc even switching off suddenly.
[14:14] <student1> hello
[14:14] <XLV> wingie, windows, yes, osx, no
[14:15] <student> We are from Poland ;-)
[14:15] <student1>  xD
[14:15] <crackerjackz> MechanisM, what version of flash are you using and what web browser are you using?
[14:15] <XLV> student, sol
[14:15] <wingie> what's the best solution for it?
[14:15] <yt372> cwainey: Flash on Linux can be quite slow... The Linux/Mac versions are a lot more optimized
[14:15] <jpds> !best | wingie, but probably VirtualBox
[14:15] <yt372> cwainey: Oops, meant Windows
[14:15] <crackerjackz> cwainey, what version of flash are you running and what web browser?
[14:15] <student> Siema Bogdan
[14:16] <MechanisM> crackerjackz browser is chromium 18+ and flash is 11.1+
[14:17] <cwainey> Running flash 11 on firefox, and running official google chrome, the latest version, with whatever come preinatalled.
[14:17] <MechanisM> crackerjackz flash 3d game causing high temperature.
[14:17] <acer> hello everyone
[14:17] <cwainey> Chrome keeps it's flash up to date by itself.
[14:17] <MechanisM> cwainey chrome != chromium
[14:18] <cwainey> Thought they were separate builds?
[14:18] <encrypt> all this hassle of upgrading to have a lts version, three years ahead of relax and joy
[14:18] <crackerjackz> MechanisM, try opera with flash 10.3, i use a lot of video chat sites and facebook apps which often times use flash but i can not get those sites working with the newest version of flash.
[14:18] <oliveryty> 12.04 is in beta1 now
[14:18] <oliveryty> I have installed it
[14:18] <crackerjackz> i have also noticed that opera is a little less buggier than firefox and chrome when it comes to flash
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> encrypt, And I hear that Precise will be 5 years for desktop. :-)
[14:19] <XLV> encrypt, beware what you wish.. if use use lts and want the latest and greatest capability of some newer package
[14:19] <yt372> crackerjackz: It shouldn't make a difference... The Flash plugin used by Opera/Firefox will be identical
[14:19] <MechanisM> crackerjackz no I don't like blind to read code opera and I need flash 11.1+ to support nice 3d accelerated by video card
[14:20] <crackerjackz> yt372, you're right they do share the flash plugin but stickam.com works for me on opera.. and on firefox it doesn't
[14:20] <hypershock> crackerjackz: have you tried gnash?
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> encrypt, This site tells alot about ubuntu, it's history and sorta' where it's going: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[14:21] <MechanisM> crackerjackz look at this http://alternativaplatform.com/en/showcase/ your flash 10 even can't handle it.
[14:21] <crackerjackz> hypershock, in the past i have...
[14:21] <yt372> hypershock: Are you seriously suggesting gnash as more reliable than the properitary Flash? That's a joke...
[14:21] <hypershock> crackerjackz: have you tried it lately to see if it solvers your problem?
[14:22] <crackerjackz> hypershock, yes
[14:22] <MechanisM> hypershock gnash can't deal with serious flash
[14:23] <crackerjackz> MechanisM, well how come a lot of websites i use will not render when i'm using the latest flash plug in?
[14:23] <hypershock> yt372: yes, i am actually. I use chrome all the time, but when I use firefox to test my website, often times it would complain despite the lastest adobe flash plugin being installed, but I just recently installed gnash again and it stopped complaining. however, i do have both installed.
[14:23] <XLV> hypershock, nice stew there
[14:23] <yt372> hypershock: That sounds more like a problem with your configuration than anything to do with gnash/adobe's plugins
[14:24] <hypershock> yt372: i don't have a problem, i like my stew. :)
[14:24] <crackerjackz> hypershock, i can help you with your website
[14:24] <encrypt> sidewinder, thanks for the info, will have a look for proper moves on my future OS's quests, actually i have some space reserved for a new baby in my drive..
[14:24] <crackerjackz> i am very familiar with xhtml, css, php, and mysql
[14:25] <cwainey> So, I tried opera and my frame rate doubled! I went from 2ps to 4 fps.
[14:25] <hypershock> crackerjackz: really, like how? the flash elements are from my affiliate: amazon, so i have no control over why gnash was needed ff to make it work. however, like I said i prefer chrome for browsing.
[14:25] <TeodorM> hi! i haveubuntu 11.10... and it worked fine untill 5 minutes ago, when it started to not playing videos or having problems in playing video on the internet. for exeple.. on youtube.. the player it is tinyer, in vplay.ro the video does not start...
[14:25] <MechanisM> so anyone know ppa for latest chromium? ex daily-builds? I know and currently using https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa, but their "daily build" ended in january
[14:25] <crackerjackz> hypershock, so your website is all in mxml?
[14:26] <crackerjackz> mxml code
[14:26] <MechanisM> crackerjackz mxml is flex
[14:26] <crackerjackz> MechanisM, which is for flash right?
[14:26] <MechanisM> yep correct
[14:26] <MechanisM> I'm ex flex dev
[14:27] <crackerjackz> i learned a little bit about flex played around with it for a couple days never really got too deep into it though i had too many other projects going on at the time MechanisM
[14:27] <XLV> cwainey, read the link i posted
[14:28] <encrypt> At last update-manager finished its task!! thanks ikonia but thanks to synaptic!
[14:28] <MechanisM> crackerjackz since html5 and css3 is out I'm ended up with flash/flex dev. and switched to python/django/nodejs + html5/jquery/css3
[14:28] <student> Booogdan ;-)
[14:28] <student> odezwij sie
[14:28] <crackerjackz> MechanisM, do you think html5 will ever replace flash?
[14:28] <TeodorM> hi! i haveubuntu 11.10... and it worked fine untill 5 minutes ago, when it started to not playing videos or having problems in playing video on the internet. for exeple.. on youtube.. the player it is tinyer, in vplay.ro the video does not start...  what to do?
[14:29] <crackerjackz> TeodorM, sounds like a problem with flash to me
[14:30] <MechanisM> crackerjackz nope. flash still have some features html5 never will reach, but a lot of platforms going to finish support flash.
[14:30] <TeodorM> so.. reinstall flash?
[14:30] <MechanisM> TeodorM yep reinstall flash plugin
[14:30] <MechanisM> and restart browser
[14:31] <hamed_> hamed
[14:31] <cwainey> XLV Checkbox says hardware acceleration enabled, but video info says it's not being used.......
[14:31] <hamed_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/871515/
 i have wifi working but eth0 wired cable not why ?
[14:31] <crackerjackz> TeodorM, also try different web browsers
[14:32] <XLV> cwainey, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=3c2fbf3b96601ab322edc18a79f4b950&p=11428681&postcount=5
[14:32] <sipior> hamed_: it would be useful to know the card, and also how you tried to configure it.
[14:32] <MechanisM> so noone using chromium and noone know ppa for current dev builds?
[14:33] <yt372> I wouldn't advise using chrome/chromium, unless you like belonging to a botnet
[14:33] <cwainey> xlv.. ohhh. that post :P
[14:33] <MechanisM> yt372 I wanted advice for ppa
[14:33] <hamed_> at first i have aproblem in wifi    then i run     sudo modprob b43 then wifi worked but auto eth0 disappeared
[14:34] <johnm> MechanisM: don't feed the troll ;)
[14:34] <XLV> MechanisM, https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa that one has a build from jan 12
[14:34] <johnm> MechanisM: tbh, I ended up uding the official chrome beta channels over the chromium-dailies, but if you prefer chromium specifically then the chromium-daily team have a ppa
[14:35] <teknosuper> tes
[14:35] <_Marcus> !ot | yt372 (it's not a botnet btw)
[14:35] <MechanisM> XLV yep I'm using it now. and they no longer maintain. current verion is 18 and stopped updating from this ppa
[14:35] <teknosuper> where do you come from?
[14:35] <cypher-neo> johnm, I found the Chromium dailies to be slightly unstable, so I'm using the beta PPA as well.
[14:35] <MechanisM> johnm gimme chrom dev channel pp pls
[14:35] <johnm> cypher-neo: exactly the same treason I stopped
[14:35] <yt372> _Marcus: Chrome/Chromium exists within Ubuntu, so it was on-topic
[14:36] <teknosuper> is this live chat??
[14:36] <johnm> MechanisM: http://www.google.com/landing/chrome/beta/
[14:36] <Pici> teknosuper: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.  If you just want to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic or #defocus
[14:36] <hamed_> and i add lp b43 in etc/modules
[14:36] <_Marcus> This is the Ubuntu support channel, yt372. Not the Ubuntu Software Discussion channel. If you want to talk about that, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:36] <johnm> yt372: suggesting a webdev not use one of the most popular browsers on the web through unfounded claims of its insecurities is off topic.
[14:36] <cypher-neo> teknosuper, No, it's actually delayed by a few nanoseconds so what we type can be input into the system.
[14:37] <_Marcus> johnm: I wouldn't recommend it for that anyway. Chrome has low HTML5 support.
[14:37] <johnm> _Marcus: but its still very popular and therefore something any webdev presumably needs to test with regardless :)
[14:37] <_Marcus> johnm: Yeah
[14:38] <Edifier> #/ubuntu-offtopic
[14:38] <cypher-neo> Can someone tell me what this error message means? I keep getting this message when I update. http://paste.ubuntu.com/871524/
[14:39] <roasted> If I want to make changes to my mouse config file to operate differently, what file am I to change?
[14:40] <yt372> You don't have to use Chrome to test support for it, any other browser using Webkit would do
[14:40] <XLV> cypher-neo, http://www.garyshood.com/unknownmedia/
[14:41] <XLV> cypher-neo, for future reference, google the error message, first link
[14:41] <arsh_> hey,....  does the command  : sed -i.bak '/line of text/d' *     makes changes to the current dir or the home dir
[14:41] <cypher-neo> XLV, So that error really isn't important.
[14:41] <_Marcus> yt372: Chrome has changed from webkit. They still use it as a base, but it's different.
[14:42] <XLV> cypher-neo, no, it just complains for some unknown or not set up correctly mime types
[14:42] <cypher-neo> XLV, I don't feel compelled to edit it away. I just wanted to make sure that it was updating okay.
[14:42] <cwainey> XLV- worked. thanks.
[14:42] <cypher-neo> XLV, Winamp... hahaha!
[14:42] <Todd> ls- l
[14:42] <Todd> wrong window and a typo.. sorry
[14:43] <XLV> cypher-neo, blasphemy
[14:43] <cypher-neo> XLV, I was wondering why it was complaining about winamp when I was updating chromium.
[14:43] <XLV> cypher-neo, just another mime type, it parses that whole kde.xml and complains about any not setup correctly mime type it finds in there
[14:44] <hamed_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/871515/   why my wired net not working but wifi working
[14:44] <cwainey> now.... idk if I have any hope at all, but does anybody know of a way to access the itunes store in linux? does itunes work in wine?
[14:45] <yt372> cwainey: Older versions do I believe
[14:47] <penunjang> 8-)
[14:47] <roasted> If I want to make changes to my mouse config file to operate differently, what file am I to change?
[14:48] <pestilence> has anybody else experienced this problem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/89606/gnome-terminal-doesnt-refresh
[14:48] <pestilence> it is incredibly frustrating.
[14:48] <satyanash> roasted, I think you want your mouse to operate differently, and not your mouse configuration file.
[14:49] <roasted> satyanash: well I'm working with Ubuntu on a Macbook, where touchpads act.. well... terrible. I found on Google someone suggested to type in terminal 2 commands, synclient fingerlow and synclient fingerhigh. Once I did that, the touchpad works GREAT, but this isn't permanent unless I add these entries to the mouse config file or whatever... I'm just not sure what that is.
[14:49] <theadmin> pestilence: Have you tried other terminal emulators? xfce4-terminal is similar to gnome-terminal, for instance.
[14:50] <satyanash> roasted, you could put them in scripts, and make them autorun whenever you login.
[14:50] <pestilence> theadmin: I have tried rxvt and mrxvt.  they both have the problem, although it is less severe.
[14:50] <mneptok> !info terminator | pestilence
[14:50] <roasted> satyanash: I could do that, however I'm curious if I could just edit the mouse file and be done with it...
[14:50] <XLV> roasted, then edit it
[14:50] <theadmin> pestilence: Hm, does it persist in non-Unity desktops?
[14:50] <satyanash> roasted, somebody else might know it then.
[14:50] <mneptok> pestilence: did you read the forums post where people said that using a different nVidia driver solved the issue?
[14:51] <pestilence> mneptok: not sure what that has to do with my problem.
[14:51] <roasted> XLV: okay, and again I'm asking - which file....
[14:51] <mneptok> pestilence: try another terminal emulator
[14:51] <roasted> XLV: the documentation didn't say which file, it just said edit the synaptics file or whatever to make it permanent.
[14:51] <mneptok> pestilence: and temrinator is a good one
[14:51] <theadmin> roasted: Put the commands in a script and add the script to startup apps, that's all
[14:51] <pestilence> mneptok: it is based on gnome-terminal...how is that a different emulator?
[14:52] <roasted> theadmin: did it ever occur I'm trying to learn this out of sake of curiosity as well? Which... file... would... need... to... be... edited...
[14:52] <pestilence> mneptok: yes, I have updated the nvidia driver.  I did not try using the ultra old one that was recommended in the forum
[14:52] <theadmin> roasted: There likely is none?
[14:52] <roasted> theadmin: there is.
[14:52] <roasted> positive of it.
[14:52] <pestilence> theadmin: i have not tried it in non-Unity desktops.  I only have unity installed.
[14:52] <roasted> I just forget which one.
[14:52] <theadmin> roasted: Or maybe xorg.conf, but I'm not sure
[14:52] <roasted> I thought this would be an easy question in here?
[14:52] <pestilence> theadmin: i am going to try logging into the 2D desktop to see if that changes anything.
[14:52] <mneptok> pestilence: well, that forum post specifically says that a particular incarnation of the nVidia proprietary drivers are responsible for the issue.
[14:53] <hamed_> \<hamed_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/871515/   why my wired net not working but wifi working
[14:53] <pestilence> mneptok: that forum post is 3.5 years old.  you really think I should try installing a driver that was old when that post was made?
[14:53] <R5A> bonjour nous sommes
[14:53] <mneptok> pestilence: i think you should try the "nouveau" FLOSS driver.
[14:54] <mneptok> R5A: Anglais seulement en cette canal, STP.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: guake is dead handy if you use terminal a lot
[14:55] <satyanash> guake ?
[14:55] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: i have not tried guake
[14:55] <roasted> So, anyway, still trying to figure out which file I am to edit to adjust the behavior of my mouse. Where would it be?
[14:56] <pestilence> it does seem that logging into the 2D desktop (sans compiz) has eliminated the problem.  I really like some of the compiz effects though.
[14:56] <pestilence> e.g. the keyboard shortcuts like ctrl+alt+numpad left
[14:57] <encrypt> quit
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: its great, hides and shows with F12 by default.You can kick off a long running command and then hide the terminal and get on with stuff, then show it again to see how things is going :)
[14:57] <satyanash> WOW! GUAKE is _Awesome_.
[14:57] <satyanash> Just checked out its screenshots.
[14:57] <pestilence> mneptok: is the nouveau driver useable?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: very (yakuake is the KDE equiv)
[14:57] <satyanash> it can act as a replacement for dmenu, synapse, etc..
[14:57] <satyanash> with the features of a terminal.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: tilda is a lighter version, good for Lubuntu /Xubuntu
[14:57] <satyanash> wow.
[14:57] <mneptok> pestilence: i don't use it (i have ATI) but AFAIK it is very usable, just no 3D.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: should be default imho
[14:58] <pestilence> "just no 3D" means no compiz, correct?
[14:58] <mneptok> pestilence: correct
[14:58] <pestilence> which would totally defeat the purpose :)
[14:59] <XLV> roasted, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Synclient
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:59] <satyanash> Why didn't I see this before!
[14:59] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: oneiric
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: what GPU do you use?
[14:59] <roasted> XLV: THANK YOU!
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> satyanash: every day is a school day
[15:00] <semixx> how i can upagrade my xubuntu 9.10 on 10.04
[15:00] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[15:00] <roasted> XLV: drat, this must be old. doesn't exist.
[15:00] <roasted> XLV: oh, I see why. It's Arch. :/
[15:00] <XLV> roasted, maybe you need to create it
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> semixx  best is to fresh install
[15:00] <XLV> roasted, its the same in ubuntu
[15:00] <roasted> XLV: I'm not sure I do. I thought I remember seeing it.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: which driver are you using? nvidia-settings will tell ou
[15:00] <roasted> XLV: evidently not. xorg.conf.d doesn't exist in X11.
[15:01] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: 295.20
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: how did you install it?
[15:01] <mi3> Hello!
[15:01] <semixx> monkeyDust:i have no cd
[15:01] <cwainey> Semixx Go to ubuntu.com and download the the 10.04 release. then burn to cd
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade
[15:02] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: myself.  the driver is installed correctly, that much I can assure you. And installing the official "restricted" drivers yields the exact same result.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: I believe the 295 is beta
[15:02] <mstenta> Hey all… just found out my Ubuntu-based VPS has been compromised… I'm not a sysadmin expert… any advice?
[15:03] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: that may be, but this bug seems to be in *all* nvidia drivers and/or compiz
[15:03] <semixx> but i want upagrade on xubuntu 10.04
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: report a bug then
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> semixx  repeat from ubottu : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:03] <_Marcus> mstenta: Compromised how?
[15:03] <XLV> roasted, http://askubuntu.com/questions/80488/sluggish-unresponsive-trackpad-on-pre-unibody-macbook-pro .. read that
[15:03] <mstenta> I noticed that SSHd wasn't working… so I went in through Webmind, and found a bunch of python scripts running these: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3624521/svcrack-py-and-svwar-py
[15:03] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: because I tried both of the versions offered by the restricted driver installer first
[15:03] <mi3> I installed ubuntu about a month ago, and at that time I had changed the permissions of dmidecode executable so that it would work with conky correctly, now I cant remember what permissions i had given, I also have no idea where that executable is located, can someone freshen me up?
[15:03] <cwainey> pestilence, for the record, how did you get the 295.20 driver to install? the download wouldn't work for me
[15:04] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: i can do that. I am guessing that the people there are going to point out the same thing that you just pointed out and force me to remove the beta driver.
[15:04] <_Marcus> mstenta: First, delete the files(if they aren't yours of course)
[15:04] <Twinkletoes> mi3: /usr/sbin/dmidecode?
[15:04] <pestilence> cwainey: i got it from the nvidia website.  it is not recommended unless you are very comfortable with working without X
[15:04] <drumusician> why is wunderlist not working?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: worth a shot, you can get the stable 290 driver from the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh more stable0
[15:04] <mneptok> pestilence: beta quality closed source software tends to meet with cool receptions on FLOSS bugtrackers.
[15:04] <mstenta> _Marcus: ok… i shut down the server temporarily, until i could figure out the right steps to take. i know what user they are running under… should i try to ban ssh access for that user somehow?
[15:05] <jrib> mstenta: you should reinstall imo
[15:05] <pestilence> mneptok: fair enough, but until we get some compromise on the nvidia driver that's the world we live in.
[15:05] <semixx> monkeyDust:tnx
[15:05] <_Marcus> mstenta: First, find the IP they are connecting with
[15:05] <_Marcus> mstenta: Write that down so you can keep track of it.
[15:05] <mi3> Twinkletoes I got the executable but I cant recollect how I changed the permissions from the terminal
[15:05] <cypher-neo> Can anyone help me with a cron / gnome-scheduler question?
[15:06] <cwainey> pestilence, well, i tried to download the file, and the archive always dl'd as corrupt.... i got the 275.something release from the site, and it installed fine.
[15:06] <mstenta> _Marcus: how do I find that?
[15:06] <Twinkletoes> mi3: Do you want to know HOW to change the permissions?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> semixx  this is a direct howto link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Karmic
[15:06] <drumusician> does anyone have succes getting wunderlist working on 12.04?
[15:06] <mneptok> pestilence: quite right. but until things change, keep your body armor on. ;)
[15:06] <mi3> yeah a little Twinkletoes
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> drumusician  #ubuntu+1
[15:06] <cwainey> pestilence,  I really have no problem working without X, I just couldn't get it to download. in any browser
[15:06] <Twinkletoes> mi3: chmod 755 /usr/sbin/dmidecode
[15:06] <Twinkletoes> mi3: That will set you back to the defaults
[15:06] <_Marcus> mstenta: I don't know about that. I'll find out in just a second
[15:06] <pestilence> cwainey: dunno. i could send it to you.
[15:07] <mstenta> _Marcus: thanks!
[15:07] <cwainey> pestilence, that would be much appreciated :P
[15:07] <Twinkletoes> mi3: It should also be owned/group-owned by  root/root
[15:07] <_Marcus> mstenta: There is the command "last". You have to log into that account over SSH though
[15:07] <cypher-neo> I am trying to add a scheduled task to cron. Didn't think it would be this difficult. I am trying to have cron execute TWO commands in order every 6 hours.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: do you have a desktop UI?
[15:08] <cypher-neo> When I test the configuration though, it only executes the first command. It doesn't execute the second
[15:08] <_Marcus> mstenta: So just log into the account over SSH, and type "last". There will be a list of who connected from where the past I dont know times
[15:08] <_Marcus> mstenta: Enough to help you
[15:08] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, GNOME-Shell
[15:08] <pestilence> cwainey: give me a few minutes.
[15:08] <cwainey> pestilence,  thanks much
[15:08] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, And I was using gnome-schedule as a frontend to cron
[15:08] <mstenta> _Marcus: ok… once i know that, is there a way to ban everyone from logging in temporarily? so i can download logs before they can possibly be deleted?
[15:08] <lamofgodrocksYEA> I'm on ubuntu 11.10 and I just upgraded my video card.  I removed the old drivers and activated the new video ATI driver.  Now most boots are a blank screen or jsut a blinking cursor
[15:09] <_Marcus> mstenta: Are you using ufw for your firewall?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: good enough, there is gnome-schedule you can use to schedule tasks. If the command needs croning as root run it with gksudo
[15:09] <pestilence> it just drives me nuts when basic functionality is broken when i install a new system.  how can people put up with a terminal that doesn't refresh properly?  i don't get it.
[15:09] <_Marcus> mstenta: Wait. Are you at the machine physically?
[15:09] <mstenta> _Marcus: yea, pretty sure
[15:09] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, I already got the root command to run. The problem I'm having is...
[15:09] <mi3> Twinkletoes, I am looking at the dmidecode properties, the Owner is root and has read and write selected, Group is read only, Others is also read only and the executable option is selected, which command i might have used?
[15:09] <mstenta> _Marcus: no, it's a Rackspace VPS
[15:09] <L3top_> can someone explain how "use best server" works, and how I might replicate this behavior?
[15:09] <_Marcus> mstenta: They you wont be able to log in if you block all connections.
[15:10] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, I want it to run this command every six hours: "sudo apt-get update && source ~/.bashrc"
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> L3top_: i believe it's ping or maybe a small download from each
[15:10] <mstenta> _Marcus: right, so maybe just start by blocking the user that seems to be compromised?
[15:10] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, It runs the first command perfectly! The second does not run. The window closes before it runs.
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: I'd put that in a scipt, then cron the script
[15:10] <Twinkletoes> mi3: I dunno what command you might have used, but if you want to reset the perms back to default, use my chmod command previously
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: why do you need to run the source command?
[15:11] <_Marcus> mstenta: Yeah. In the OpenSSH file you should have "DenyUsers replaceThisNameWithUser"
[15:11] <_Marcus> You need to put that in there
[15:11] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, I have a few peculiar bash scripts that are very useful. And to execute them all, I source it and they all run.
[15:11] <_Marcus> mstenta: That is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[15:11] <XLV> mstenta, i'd backup and reinstall
[15:11] <XLV> mstenta, you cant trust that install anymore
[15:11] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, So make a .sh file out of the commands and schedule that file to run?
[15:12] <L3top_> ActionParsnip: does it use mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt xxx and then ping from there?
[15:12] <_Marcus> mstenta: Oh. XLV is correct.
[15:12] <mstenta> _Marcus: ok… i originally got tipped off to this because the ssh server was down, though… and Webmin said /etc/ssh/sshd_config was misisng
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: the file extension means very little in Linux
[15:12] <mstenta> XLV: thanks, yea, I'm planning on nuking it once I get my stuff off
[15:12] <_Marcus> mstenta: Uh oh O.o
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: a script is a text file with the top line:  #!/bin/bash   which is executable
[15:12] <L3top_> cypher-neo: just make sure you chmod +x nameofscript
[15:13] <scotty^> help
[15:13] <_Marcus> mstenta: You shuold back up important things, like if you run a httpd server, back up all of that
[15:13] <_Marcus> mstenta: And webmin too
[15:13] <_Marcus> mstenta: I think Webmin has a tool to do that.
[15:13] <lamofgodrocksYEA> I upgraded my vid card to radeon hd6670 and now I get a blank screen.  Anyone seen this?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> L3top_: not sure, but i'd imagine that's what it would do. You could use wireshark to monitor your traffic to see
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: webmin isn't compatible with Ubuntu
[15:13] <jrib> mstenta: you should also attempt to figure out how it was compromised, otherwise it will just happen again
[15:14] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, Couldn't I just point it directly to my bashrc file and let it run it?
[15:14] <kaushal> Hi
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mstenta: webmin isn't compatible with ubuntu
[15:14] <kaushal> is there a way to capture the output of commands run on multiple servers using cssh ?
[15:14] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: What do you mean "isn't compatible"? It's not official, but it works still
[15:14] <BoxyK> Does there anyone know about power manager? There's a warning in Ubuntu that the full-charge capacity of the battery has dropped. Does anyone know where to configure the threshold for this warning?
[15:14] <mstenta> _Marcus and jrib: k, yea like I said before, I shut down the server, so nothings running right now… i'm just trying to figure out the best next steps when i turn it back on
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | _Marcus
[15:14] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, It's executable afaik, and it's the script I want to have run.
[15:14] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: We have an Ubuntu server here(11.10) and we installed webmin just fine on it, using a tutorial online
[15:14] <mi3> Twinkletoes, I dont want to get back to defaults else how will I load it conky? here is the snapshot
[15:14] <jrib> mstenta: I would allow ssh access only for your current ip
[15:14] <L3top_> hmmmm... that means installing ubu... we use kubu for our base... so all of my machines are on kubu.
[15:14] <mstenta> ActionParsnip: I had webmin running fine on it… it's Ubuntu
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: its not compatible which is why its not in the repos
[15:14] <mi3> wait let it get uploaded
[15:14] <Mech0z> When installing sabnzbdplus I want to use my filesystem\data as download location, but when I type Data/NZB it creates a folder in my Home folder
[15:15] <dRealm> When I install Ubuntu (11.10) via LiveCD, is the kernel being installed built during installation or is it pre-compiled?
[15:15] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: Well it works :/
[15:15] <Twinkletoes> mi3: then what is it that you want to do?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> mstenta: it can break things, its why it was taken out of the repos
[15:15] <cypher-neo> ActionParsnip, Never mind... Forget that last question
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | _Marcus
[15:15] <mi3> I just want to know how to make that file read only
[15:15] <cwainey> hey, how do you list running processes in the term?
[15:16] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: It may break things, but we don't have a GUI, nor do we want one, and webmin is good because we can go to it online
[15:16] <uictamale> cwainey - i prefer "ps -ef"
[15:16] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: It may not be supported, but you do have you have to sometimes
[15:16] <Twinkletoes> mi3: chmod ugo-w /usr/sbin/dmidecode
[15:16] <mstenta> ActionParsnip: could it be the reason my server got hacked?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebMin
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> mstenta: its an open listening port so will reduce security
[15:16] <mi3> that will make it read only?
[15:16] <Twinkletoes> mi3: Yes
[15:17] <scotty^> owa down
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: I can only tell you what the official ubuntu documentation says, but what do they know, huh?
[15:17] <mi3> will conky be able to access and run it?
[15:17] <abhinavmehta> is there some app, which can store places like shops/restaurants etc, which I likely or would like to visit in future? this should be able to store there pic, contact info, gps-location etc…and above of all, should provide searching mechanism to those….so is there some any app for doing this..?
[15:17] <_Marcus> ActionParnsip: :P
[15:17] <Twinkletoes> mi3: You need to learn about permissions if you're going to play around with things like this
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> cypher-neo: if you make the script and cron the script, it will run. The source command really isn't needed
[15:17] <L3top_> mi3 should take Twinkletoes advice
[15:17] <Mech0z> When installing sabnzbdplus I want to use my filesystem\data as download location, but when I type Data/NZB it creates a folder in my Home folder, how do I make it use the data folder I have on File System
[15:17] <_Marcus> ActionParnsip: I know Ubuntu doesn't support Webmin, but I use it because we need it. Everyone here cant be bothered to learn how to use httpd on the command line.
[15:18] <Twinkletoes> mi3: The fact that you're asking means you probably shouldn't be doing what you're doing. However, if you want to learn about permissions, you could start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions
[15:18] <MechanisM> abhinavmehta I would suggest to use some website for this purpose.
[15:18] <scotty^> :(
[15:18] <BoxyK> Any expert on power manager here?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: if you do your skills will be transferable as you can administer commands using CLI
[15:19] <Trevor69420> wat do u guys think is the best FTP server package i should use?
[15:19] <Trevor69420> vsftpd?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !poll | Trevor69420
[15:19] <_Marcus> Tevor69420: Yes.
[15:19] <MechanisM> Trevor69420 yep I'm using it
[15:19] <mi3> Twinkletoes your permissions command will make it look like this? http://imagebin.org/202211 bcos thats how my current permissions of the dmidecode file looks like[ i have not applied your command but have taken note of it]
[15:19] <Twinkletoes> mi3: That file in it's default permissions (the ones I gave you earlier) is readable and executable by anybody anywhere on the system
[15:20] <Twinkletoes> mi3: that image doesn't give me the permissions
[15:20] <dRealm> When I install Ubuntu (11.10) via LiveCD,  does it ship with a prebuilt (binary) kernel or is the kernel built *during installation?
[15:20] <theadmin> dRealm: Prebuilt
[15:20] <makara> FileZilla
[15:20] <theadmin> dRealm: Ubuntu is largely a binary distro, you almost never have to compile anything
[15:21] <mi3> i wonder how I allowed conky to execute dmidecode Twinkletoes
[15:21] <Twinkletoes> mi3: Because that's the default setting for that file
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> dRealm: its prebuilt binary
[15:21] <Twinkletoes> mi3: It's readable and executable by "other/world"
[15:21] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: I've used command line all the time. I even removed it from Ubuntu just so I could have the Ubuntu Server feel without having Ubuntu Server. On the other hand, someone else here is used to Windows, and barely has to use the command line there. They didn't want to learn how to use the command line really well, because it would take too long.
[15:22] <_Marcus> ActionParsnip: And because we didn't want a GUI using up resources, we used Webmin, because we can access it on other machines.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: think of it as an investment.
[15:22] <mi3> anyhow I have taken note of both the commands and I will apply them when I need to re install conky and start dmidecode Twinkletoes[ 1st i should apply the sudo 755 command right?]
[15:22] <XLV> _Marcus, and that other has to maintain the server?
[15:22] <_Marcus> XLV: Yes.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: webmin isn't compatible. Zentyal is compatible and in the repos.
[15:22] <_Marcus> XLV: But they don't work with httpd on command line
[15:23] <_Marcus> !zentyal > _Marcus
[15:23] <Twinkletoes> mi3: To change file permissions, use the 'chmod' command.
[15:23] <dRealm> theadmin, and this includes most of the .deb packages (being precompiled) right?  If I am not mistaken, all it does it downloads/fetches the dependencies and copies them to the right locations
[15:23] <lamofgodrocksYEA> How do I get a terminal if I boot to a blank screen?  Is there a key combo I need?
[15:23] <theadmin> dRealm: Correct, .deb packages are binary as well.
[15:23] <mi3> thanks Twinkletoes appreciated your help!
[15:24] <theadmin> !text | lamofgodrocksYEA
[15:24] <Twinkletoes> mi3: 'sudo' just requests elevated privs when running that command, which you may/may not need
try CTRL+ALT+f6
[15:24] <Twinkletoes> mi3: you're welcome
[15:24] <pestilence> how would you search for bugs about the dialog when you hit alt+f2?  what search terms would you use?
[15:24] <jrib> pestilence: run-dialog
[15:24] <mneptok> _Marcus: Webmin is a gigantic security silhouette.
[15:24] <lamofgodrocksYEA> waxstone, can I get there from recovery mode?
[15:25] <mi3> I installed lightdm on my ubuntu natty 11.04 and I switched to it but it does not show me the default background ,instead it shows me a blue background with no mouse and I have to operate everything by keyboard, any suggestions? I removed lightdm, but if I get some suggestions I might re install lightdm again.
[15:25] <lamofgodrocksYEA> it only says read only options
[15:25] <yt372> mi3: What flags did you use when compiling?
[15:25] <MechanisM> you need panel to control server?
[15:25] <MechanisM> mneptok^
[15:25] <waxstone> ottu> lamofgodrocksYEA: i dont know but you can also try the method described by ubottu above
[15:25] <MechanisM> mneptok try out http://ajenti.org
[15:25] <mneptok> _Marcus: i would no sooner let someone with no CLI experience admin a Unix box than i would get on an airplane with a "pilot" that requires an autopilot to land the plane.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> lamofgodrocksYEA: what GPU do you use? Nice nick btw \m/
[15:26] <XLV> mneptok, bad analogy
[15:26] <mi3> yt372 I dont know how to compile I just added a repo and installed all the packages
[15:26] <pestilence> jrib: that doesn't yield a useful search unfortunately.  tons of completely unrelated bugs
[15:26] <mneptok> MechanisM: why would i want that exactly?
[15:26] <jrib> pestilence: include the package responsible for it
[15:26] <lamofgodrocksYEA> ActionParsnip, Thanks!  I've upgraded to radeon hd 6670.  Now my screen is blank
[15:26] <mi3> I got the repo from the web yt372
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> lamofgodrocksYEA: is this on the install CD or is it an installed OS?
[15:27] <MechanisM> mneptok you talked about webmin so I thought you want admin panel
[15:27]  * mneptok thinks MechanisM has gotten turned around a bit
[15:27] <pestilence> jrib: what package is that?
[15:27] <jrib> pestilence: I don't know
[15:28] <pestilence> jrib: looks like somebody already filed it.  thank god.
[15:28] <pestilence> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/842108
[15:28] <lamofgodrocksYEA> ActionParsnip, Its an existing insstall.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> lamofgodrocksYEA: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[15:28] <pestilence> this is one of the more sinister bugs i've encountered.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> lamofgodrocksYEA: what release did you install?
[15:28] <chad> ney
[15:29] <mi3> Is it by default or a bug?
[15:29] <lamofgodrocksYEA> ActionParsnip, it only booted once and I forget.  How do I get to nomodeset?
[15:29] <spartan2276> How can I get my Webcam to show while using skype? I go to the Sesstings and my laptop webcam is not listed
[15:29] <pestilence> mi3: was that directed at me?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> lamofgodrocksYEA: hold shift at boot and you can press E to (e)dit the kernel options. Remove:  quiet splash   and add: nomodeset
[15:29] <mi3> no pestilence
[15:29] <cwainey> I did a stupid. anyone know how I can reinstall plymouth?
[15:30] <mi3> I installed lightdm on my ubuntu natty 11.04 and I switched to it but it does not show me the default background ,instead it shows me a blue background with no mouse and I have to operate everything by keyboard, any suggestions? I removed lightdm, but if I get some suggestions I might re install lightdm again.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: does the webcam work in cheese?
[15:30] <ikonia> mi3: you said that
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> cwainey: sudo apt-get --reinstall install plymouth
[15:30] <pestilence> even if you type in the full path to the executable, it *still* doesn't run it.  e.g. alt+f2 -> /usr/bin/empathy doesn't run /usr/bin/empathy!
[15:30] <mi3> ikonia maybe someone might notice it the second time
[15:30] <ikonia> mi3: people noticed it the first time - that's why they responded to you
[15:31] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: I think I may have a bigger issue it just said if I would like to install these packages(cheese) without verification
[15:31] <mi3> ikonia maybe i can freshen them up again
[15:31] <nocsutud_> whats up fellas
[15:32] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: so I guess the Key from the Ubuntu servers is messed up
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   sudo apt-get update
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: you probably added a PPA and not the key
[15:33] <ikonia> mi3: please don't just keep posting the same question/info wait around 15 minutes between posts, or it ends up with you just spamming the channel
[15:33] <mneptok> !repeat
[15:33] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/3p3jrLSA
[15:33] <TeodorM> Hi! I have trubble playing videos on internet... I've reinstall flash, but the problem is still there. What to do?
[15:34] <mint> gtalk for linux?
[15:34] <DJones> mint: pidgin does googletalk
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> TeodorM  try this http://www.youtube.com/html5
[15:35] <mi3> Does ubuntu 11.04 only supports gdm ? Or will it support lightdm as well? I get a blue background at login after I have installed lightdm and switched to it. Is the blue background a bug? Also I dont see the mouse pointer . suggestions welcome.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> !info lightdm natty
[15:35] <mneptok> mi3: 5 minutes != 15 minutes.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> mi3: seems its available to Natty
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> 5 != 15
[15:35] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: do you want the output of this
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: was a key imported
[15:36] <TeodorM> Hi! I have trubble playing videos on internet...one hour ago it was playing fine... I've reinstall flash, but the problem is still there. What to do?
[15:36] <Mech0z> anyone know how to give write access to sabnzb ?
[15:36] <lamofgodrocksYEA> ActionParsnip, Worked!  Tx! =)  Should I be using ATI FireGL or Video driver for ADM graphics accellorators?
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> TeodorM  try this http://www.youtube.com/html5
[15:36] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: I guess not because I still get the same error msg when I do sudo apt-get update
[15:37] <pestilence> is there a way to change compiz settings in oneiric?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> lamofgodrocksYEA: the additional driver app should offer what you need.
[15:37] <mali> heya, where do I go to support *advice or get* for ubuntu server?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: just go for it dude, install the packages
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> mali: here or #ubuntu-server
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  you need CCSM
[15:38] <mi3> sorry for repeating ikonia really am
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> mi3: lightdm seems its available to Natty
[15:38] <cwainey> I try to boot into recovery console and my monitor gives me an out of range error. I know what package broke it, and I uninstalled that package, I need to know how to set the resolution back to default.
[15:39] <mneptok> lamofgodrocksYEA: what video chipset? is this an APU?
[15:39] <mali> if I have a patch for a package , and apply it in the deb package I guess I I have to remake the package, so prolly easier to give tio upstream... shouldn't ldap slappasswd lacking the "" for password be patche dby now. I see debian did it in January
[15:39] <mali> and ok, thanks ActionParsnip
[15:39] <theadmin> cwainey: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf # pretty much
[15:39] <mi3> I know ActionParsnip but the login windows does not seem to be correct I get the blue screen and dont see any mouse pointer
[15:39] <mi3> sorry *window
[15:39] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: what is CCSM?
[15:39] <bluefrog> mali bug report
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> lamofgodrocksYEA  OT: it's "lamb of god" (agnus dei) ;)
[15:39] <cwainey> Compiz config settings manager
[15:40] <lamofgodrocksYEA> Yes!
[15:40] <lamofgodrocksYEA> Don't want to piss off obuto
[15:40] <cwainey> theadmin, I assume x will then generate a new default config?
[15:40] <phx79> is there an email client compatible with outlook anywhere?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> phx79  meaning?
[15:40] <mneptok> phx79: if your Outlook server does POP or IMAP, they all are.
[15:40] <theadmin> cwainey: Yeah, unless you have a broken/very old X setup (unlikely)
[15:41] <pestilence> MonkeyDust: ok, i'll try it.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> phx79: compatible in what way?
[15:41] <phx79> our office uses outlook anywhere for remote email to the outlook client, pop3 & imap are disabled for security
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> phx79: do you mean compatible with Exchange?
[15:41] <mali> ye well. that could take ages I guess bluefrog. hmm. I left ubuntyu after their/your farseof trying to push on people this G3, or unity or what it was but since I am runnig a server I thought ubuntu will be nice so I am back :x
[15:41] <lamofgodrocksYEA> mneptok, It is a diamond radeon hd 6670
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> phx79: oh you meant COMPARABLE
[15:42] <phx79> ActionParsnip, yes but with the functionality that outlook anywhere gives you also
[15:42] <mi3> ActionParsnip is it really a bug or is it meant to be that way?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !pm| TeodorM
[15:42] <mali> phx79, what are you on about really?
[15:42] <lamofgodrocksYEA> Should I be using ATI FireGL or Video driver for ADM graphics accellorators?  I've got a diamond radeon hd 6670
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> mi3: not sure, I've always use the default login managr because I don't really care about something I see for 3 seconds.
[15:43] <mneptok> lamofgodrocksYEA: FYI, the ATI proprietary drivers render my system unbootable. but i'm using an E-350 APU. new stuff.
[15:43] <TeodorM> ok.. sorry
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> phx79: try Evolution is all I can suggest
[15:43] <phx79> evolution with exchange mapi only works while i am in the office and not out & about where as outlook with RPC over HTTP works everywhere
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> phx79  what's wrong with Evolution or Thunderbird?
[15:44] <phx79> they just aren't good enough
[15:44] <mi3> yeah thats right why do bother about that login window? there are tons of things to be done after logging in, right? ActionParsnip
[15:44] <mneptok> phx79: so ... a sysadmin decided to disable IMAP and POP due to "security concerns," but chose Outlook as a platform? that's precious.
[15:44] <mi3> maybe I should forget about this lightdm stuff
[15:44] <pestilence> do you have to log out/log in to make CCSM changes take effect?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> pestilence  try and you know
[15:45] <mi3> pestilence, no
[15:45] <phx79> with mapi you also get calendars and contacts, pop and imap you don't
[15:45] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: ok installed cheese, ran it and I get no devices found
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> mi3: anything on the screen that brifly I have very little interest in, like changing the wallpaper on the login screen etc.
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: then the cam isn't configured
[15:45] <mi3> uh huh
[15:45] <bluefrog> phx79, if not mistaken a simple browser should be enough
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: run:  lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[15:46] <mneptok> phx79: you're not getting mail, calendars or contacts ATM. so it's hardly a case of better functionality.
[15:46] <Mech0z> anyone know how to give write access to sabnzb ?
[15:46] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: but it was working before this morning
[15:46] <phx79> i am as i am using W7 for work
[15:46] <mi3> bye and thanks!
[15:46] <phx79> i am as i am using W7 for work
[15:46] <mali> well exchange then doesn\t work as well with linux standards ahead of their windows only stuff?
[15:47] <mali> ye ok.. I would recommend then setting up a linux server then, instead of a limited windows server domain perhaps?
[15:47] <mneptok> phx79: then i think that's the answer. choose a Microsoft platform, buy into the lock-in and live with it.
[15:47] <mali> you can use W7 easily with openldap/kerberos say etc
[15:48] <mali> mail servers which give you protocols to use with webmail or so.. so you should be able to have your email outside of office, yes
[15:48] <mneptok> phx79: you could, as a Microsoft customer, ask them to fully open their MAPI specs so that others can benefit.
[15:48] <mali> but you will have to configure it and if you can\t , hire a linux man you cheapskate tool
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> phx79  or post your idea here http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[15:48] <phx79> webmail is only useful if you have internet 100% of the time
[15:48] <mneptok> mali: perjoratives are most unwelcome.
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> spartan2276: tried a reboot?
[15:49] <mali> hehe.. well he is talkign about something kinda irrelevant
[15:49] <mneptok> mali: perjoratives are most unwelcome. at all times. in all situations. full stop.
[15:49] <mali> he wanst linux to serve services which linux in fact has, but is trying to tell people here to tell his business MS server to fix it for him_ how is that any better? ,x
[15:50] <spartan2276> ActionParsnip: what is this Windows? LOL. No I really doubt that it will solve the issue as I rebooted it this morning after a software update
[15:50] <ritz> Is it possible to locally build a package for oneiric from bzr branch on precise, using buildeb plugin ?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> ritz  better ask in the precise channel #ubuntu+1
[15:51] <ritz> thanks
[15:51] <mali> so , if I patch the openldap src here locally for my server. What happens when I apply it and/or you finally would patch it (as it doesn't seem it has). Say youpatch problems A..C and I patch A, D, F... should I then turn off your updates to avoid mine getting overwritten?
[15:52] <pestilence> Argh.  Somebody deleted my response to http://askubuntu.com/questions/89606/gnome-terminal-doesnt-refresh and then protected the question.  And i have a solution for it now.
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> mali  that question sounds beyond this channel, i guess nobody ever tried it
[15:52] <mali> ritz, usually the best thing is to just try.. sometimes something changes and it wouldn't work I would imagine.. other times it works quite ok, ior you manage to find where it breaks and create a patch to make it work
[15:52] <pestilence> that is incredibly aggrivating.  people are wayyy to overprotective.
[15:52] <mali> LOL.. what is this channel then?
[15:53] <mintman> wow
[15:53] <bluefrog> mali simple support
[15:53] <starsinmypockets> Hey
[15:53] <pestilence> does anybody in here have the ability to unprotect questions in askubuntu.com?
[15:53] <mali> ah ok.. you have normal support too?
[15:53] <ritz> mali I am trying to fix an upstream bug, not very sure how to build a patched package or pass prefix/other options to configure script to match against local env
[15:53] <starsinmypockets> I'm trying to debug a piece of software that continues to change one of my directory's permissions... I know that it's the php user, but any thoughts how to isolate this?
[15:54] <mali> well, you could certainly try to pass it to upstream but don't know how quickly it would trickle back into ubuntu
[15:54] <pestilence> the double whammy is that they deleted my response, but left several responses which are totally unhelpful "Try guake!"...
[15:54] <theadmin> ritz: The development channel is #ubuntu-devel , you could ask there
[15:54] <cwainey> okay.. I broke my ubuntu. When I try to boot into a recovery console, drop into a tty prompt, or otherwise do something to get out of X I get a out of range error on my monitor.
[15:54] <mali> I would say look up how to make packages... then download the deb package, extract source.. edit the conf options you wish to try out, change... try to compile
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> cwainey: what GPU do you use?
[15:56] <pestilence> cwainey: you need to blacklist nouveau
[15:56] <mali> when fails or not.. troubleshoot, then package it with a custon name I would guess ot avoid getting overwritten but ye.. now I think of it.. ritz, is this serve ror desktop? if desktop I would recommend going archlinux or so :)  (ye ubuntu-devel sounds right)
[15:56] <mintman> for what? I go with a bsd mail server and call it a day 486 let it build up dust in some dark room and forget it.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> pestilence: not if its an intel gpu
[15:57] <cwainey> ActionParsnip, I have an 8600gt. GPU isn't the issue. Nouveau is already blacklisted. problem was cause when I install plymouth-manager.
[15:57] <pestilence> ActionParsnip: he installed the nvidia driver.  i'm guessing it's not an intel card :)
[15:57] <mali> starsinmypockets: one can try a jail, *chroot( or you remove that user's rights to change those permissions
[15:57] <cwainey> uninstalled plymouth manager and reinstalled plymouth, problem persists.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> cwainey: plymouth doesn't like the nvidia driver, you will eventually get a display but the plymouth boot screen will not show
[15:58] <starsinmypockets> mali - that's a good thought, then the bug becomes powerless
[15:58] <starsinmypockets> mali can that be done by directory? for example, forbid www-data to change the /assets directory permissions?