[14:15] <Cocoon> Hello
[14:16] <Cocoon> Trying do start instad of a desktop a x11 application in xsession. I dident found how to start the application in fullscreen, i specified for the application wide, high and fullscreen in lubuntu-rc.xml. Application still starts only with half monitor usage. Any hint 4 me or completle wrong chan ?
[15:25] <Guest72082> I'm trying to make a bootable USB containing NTpasswd (http://www.pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/) to get back into my windows 7 machine but I'm having trouble understanding just how to do it. The instructions and and FAQ tell me to 'install the bootloader' but the command given doesnt seem applicable to this OS. I know it's little to go on but can anyone offer some advice?
[15:25] <Guest72082> I don't really know what I'm doing but the returned command line text says 'command not found', so I'm guessing I haven't given the correct path toward the executable.
[15:25] <Guest72082> Eh, my copy paste looks like it failed. Let me try that again.
[15:26] <Guest72082> I'm trying to make a bootable USB containing NTpasswd (pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/) to get back into my windows 7 machine but I'm having trouble understanding just how to do it.
[15:26] <Guest72082> The instructions and and FAQ tell me to 'install the bootloader' but the command given doesnt seem applicable to this OS. I know it's little to go on but can anyone offer some advice?
[20:15] <looping_> Hello.
[20:17] <looping_> Is there a way to, without reinstalling, change a *ubuntu flavour into another? I would like to get back to Lubuntu after trying Ubuntu Mate but I made the mistake of installing the latter in place of Lubuntu...


[12:51] <LaserJock> ack I'm going to pull my hair out
[12:51] <LaserJock> but I can't do that because I don't have enough left as it is :/
[12:56] <Burgwork> LaserJock, why so? the wildtangent thingy?
[12:57] <LaserJock> Burgwork: yeah
[01:28] <Riddell> patch for docs http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/DIFF
[01:33] <LaserJock> Riddell: is that for speeding up the kubuntu-docs build time?
[01:33] <Riddell> no
[01:35] <LaserJock> oh, I thought there was some disccusion about that earlier
[01:35] <Riddell> yes
[01:38] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/DIFF2  changelog
[01:38] <Riddell> LaserJock: could you apply those?
[01:39] <LaserJock> I can
[01:42] <LaserJock> Riddell: can you paste the changelog from 6.06-3 on? we don't have -4, -5, and -6 apparently
[01:45] <LaserJock> ack, in fact neither one of those patch applied cleanly
[01:48] <LaserJock> Riddell: oh, wait a sec. I think I was doing it on the wrong branch
[01:49] <Riddell> it's in kubuntu/debian/changelog
[01:51] <LaserJock> I was doing it on trunk rather than the dapper branch :/
[01:52] <LaserJock> Riddell: done, sorry about my stupidity there
[01:52] <Riddell> cool, thanks
[01:53] <LaserJock> np
[03:56] <jsgotangco> good morning
[04:16] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco
[05:08] <jsgotangco> System -> Help now has 5 entries heh
[05:08] <jsgotangco> "Ubuntu Book Excerpt"
[05:08] <jsgotangco> that's nice
[05:10] <jsgotangco> there's nothing yet, just the firefox start page
[05:11] <LaserJock> doh, I should have guess
[05:11] <LaserJock> guessed
[09:21] <mdke> Riddell: nice!
[09:23] <mdke> Riddell: however, we're missing the css and common images for the headers/footers of the pages
[09:23] <mdke> Riddell: also sample/ is missing for the desktopguide, I think
[09:26] <mdke> Riddell: I'd say each language needs a link to /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/common
[04:51] <jjesse> hello jsgotangco
[04:52] <jsgotangco> jjesse: hi!
[04:53] <jjesse> noticed that
[04:58] <jjesse> anyone else having problems with svn up being erally slow :(
[04:58] <jjesse> anyone else having problems with svn up being erally slow?
[05:30] <jsgotangco> hmm
[05:30] <jsgotangco> no not really
[08:00] <LaserJock> mdke: I commited up to  -8 for kubuntu-docs yesterday so we just need -9 changes it looks like
[08:00] <mdke> LaserJock: thanks. How does one get a quick debdiff?
[08:04] <LaserJock> mdke: download both source packages and then run debdiff 1st.dsc 2nd.dsc
[08:04] <mdke> meh
[08:04] <mdke> what a pita
[08:04] <LaserJock> mdke: want me to send it to you?
[08:04] <mdke> 0r i'll just download one source package and diff it with the repo
[08:08] <LaserJock> mdke: http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/kubuntu-docs_6.06-9.debdiff
[08:09] <LaserJock> mdke: just because I can ;-)
[08:09] <mdke> LaserJock: thanks, my download for the first src package wouldn't even have finished by now :)
[08:10] <mdke> LaserJock: now you can apply it too :)
[08:11] <LaserJock> mdke: hehe
[08:11] <mdke> bbl
[08:13] <LaserJock> mdke: done
[08:21] <mdke> LaserJock: thanks a lot
[08:26] <LaserJock> mdke: np
[11:20] <robotgeek> mdke: sorry, been away from computer for a while now
[11:35] <mdke> robotgeek: no worries. we need to rewrite the java stuff.
[11:35] <robotgeek> yeah. good news :)
[11:36] <robotgeek> i will try to get to it tonight
[11:36] <mdke> robotgeek: I have made a start on it, I'll upload it
[11:37] <robotgeek> mdke: nice. just been busy trying to get life in order :)
[11:38] <mdke> robotgeek: how's it going?
[11:38] <robotgeek> mdke: good, gotten a few interviews
[11:38] <mdke> cool
[11:39] <robotgeek> hopefully, i'll find a good position soon
[11:42] <robotgeek> wow, what Eben Moglen said 2 years ago is coming true now


[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #131464 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Wrong firmware for ivtv driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131464
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #131386 in Ubuntu "Tribe 4 LiveCD boots with HUGE fonts and icons (dup-of: 118745)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131386
[01:58] <jcristau> tepsipakki: i'd argue that "rejected by upstream" is a good reason to drop a patch, but not my call either in this case :)
[02:29] <tepsipakki> yes, that's true
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #131548 in xorg (main) "X forces low refresh" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131548
[05:48] <ubotu> New bug: #127620 in xorg (main) "keyboard repeat not enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/127620
[06:08] <keescook> bryce: mdetect patch looks way cleaner with your new version.  I'm building it now
[06:10] <keescook> though I thought you had a manpage at one point?
[06:14] <bryce> oh did I?  lemme look
[06:14] <keescook> you made changes to the manpage lines in rules, but it seemed to backfire.
[06:14] <keescook> (i.e. no manpages are in the package now)
[06:14] <keescook> I'm reworking it to use dh_installman instead of the deprecated dh_installmanpages
[06:14] <bryce> btw, I noticed the mdetect package had the manpage rule commented out
[06:14] <bryce> I uncommented it but couldn't get it to work
[06:14] <bryce> ahh
[06:15] <keescook> yeah, the Makefile was dropping it directly into the build tree, it seems.  I don't think that's how it's supposed to work.
[06:15] <bryce> aha yes I have a man page
[06:16] <bryce> sent
[06:16] <keescook> thanks
[06:17] <bryce> oh, and I just noticed the numbering got screwed up
[06:17] <bryce> <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 s/b <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1
[06:20] <keescook> actually, I think it's correct as-is (since it's a "native" package)
[06:20] <bryce> really?  huh
[06:22] <keescook> e.g. see "reportbug"'s version
[06:24] <bryce> ah I trust you to know all the ins and outs
[06:25] <bryce> you'd be proud of me; yesterday at Intel I explained about the ~foo numbering option
[06:26] <bryce> they've been suffering from trying to do their internal re-numbering of things, and then running into conflicts with similarly named official packages later, etc.
[06:58] <keescook> hehe, excellent!
[06:58] <keescook> okay, mdetect uploaded.
[06:59] <bryce> yay!  thanks
[07:40] <bryce> tepsipakki: one thing we should think about is using the randr-1.2 branch of the radeon driver
[09:52] <ubotu> New bug: #130131 in xresprobe (main) "[gutsy]  colored blocks during installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130131
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #131646 in xorg (main) "Can't select correct resolution (1280x800) Gutsy Tribe 4" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131646
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #130832 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "nvidia-glx installation is broken after reboot" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130832


[19:39] <mup> Bug #1988874 opened: Release command is failing for ppc64 machine in our lab  <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1988874>


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[15:40] <CarstenG> Hi Hannie
[15:46] <hannie> hey CarstenG
[15:47] <hannie> how are you doing?
[15:48] <CarstenG> Well, I'm fine.


[06:55] <chuy_max> Hi, where can I write about errors I fixed in my PC?
[06:55] <chuy_max> particularly, an error on a superblock of my hdd.
[07:03] <chuy_max> is there any web besides ubuntu forum?
[07:04] <Madpilot> hi chuy_max - try help.ubuntu.com/community - that's the Ubuntu Community Help Wiki
[07:07] <chuy_max> ok
[08:20] <mdke> morning all
[08:24] <Madpilot> morning mdke
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #158998 in ubuntu-doc "Packaging guide: 822-date command deprecated, should use "date -R"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158998
[18:46] <mdke> jjesse: no idea, it works fine for me
[18:47] <mdke> did you resolve?
[18:51] <jjesse> mdke: in regards to the long bzr commit?
[18:51] <jjesse> mdke: i think i resolved
[19:05] <mdke> jjesse: you mentioned bzr status showing lots of changes without you having made any
[19:16] <jjesse> mdke: sorry yes got it resolved
[19:20] <jjesse> mdke: i lied, see http://pastebin.ca/756805
[20:04] <tormod> what happened to the CategoryNeedsCleanup (?) on the wiki?
[20:12] <sommer> tormod: isn't it CategoryCleanup?
[20:13] <tormod> sommer: it doesn't show in the drop-down menu
[20:13] <sommer> during editing?
[20:13] <tormod> yes. I just want to tag a page that needs some major work.
[20:14] <sommer> tormod: I see it... are you on https://help.ubuntu.com/community? or wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <tormod> w.u.c
[20:15] <sommer> ?
[20:15] <tormod> FYI, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[20:15] <tormod> wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:15] <tormod> which is a fork (?) of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (needs merging)
[20:16] <tormod> I don't understand why it was copied over to h.u.c without being deleting from w.u.c. Now people have kept on modifying both...
[20:17] <tormod> s/deleting/deleted
[20:17] <sommer> tormod: not sure mdke may know
[20:23] <tormod> actually Corey moved it, but then BenC copied it back two days later.
[20:23] <jjesse> tormod: sorry what is that reference to?
[20:24] <tormod> jjesse: FYI, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[20:24] <tormod>  wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:24] <tormod>  which is a fork (?) of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (needs merging)
[20:24] <tormod>  I don't understand why it was copied over to h.u.c without being deleting from w.u.c. Now people have kept on modifying both...
[20:24] <tormod>  s/deleting/deleted
[22:34] <mdke> tormod: best thing is probably to merge it into the help.u.c version, and insert a redirect on the wiki.u.c page
[22:35] <tormod> mdke: yes, I suggested that on the page, but I just wondered how to tag it CategoryCleanup
[22:37] <mdke> tormod: that category wouldn't be used on the development wiki, it generally isn't needed
[22:37] <mdke> tormod: you could tag it CategoryDocumentation, which is used to indicate pages which should be moved to the help wiki
[22:38] <tormod> mdke, ok, just hope nobody makes a third copy then :)
[22:40] <mdke> tormod: if you put in the redirect it should be fine
[22:41] <tormod> well it should be merged before putting in a redirect.
[22:41] <mdke> yes
[22:43] <tormod> which I don't have time to do, my question was how to flag it so that somebody else would easily find the job
[22:47] <tormod> or myself, one day that I have time :)


[03:26] <doko_> fabbione, jbailey: please have a look at PR20126, gcc* build failure on sparc
[03:27] <jbailey> doko: PR20126 in gcc?
[03:27] <jbailey> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=20126 appears to be an x86-64 regression
[03:42] <doko> jbailey, no ubuntu bugzilla
[03:52] <jbailey> fabbione, doko: Oh.  Yeah.  That's easy enough.  It's the new binutils enabling TLS on our arches without needed patches.  We don't have this problem.
[03:52] <jbailey> Marking it as NOTWARTY.


[01:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN7ea
[01:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master 63f000f Simon Quigley: Change bzrignore to gitignore.
[01:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master 97cd85b Simon Quigley: Bump dh compat to 11 and Standards-version to 4.1.3.
[01:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master 3a58cb4 Simon Quigley: Wraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.
[01:47] <tsimonq2> (yes, the wrap-and-sort commit has to have like a million "a"s, it's tradition :P)
[01:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN7vL
[01:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master 215b527 Simon Quigley: Update the setup.py file to have current details.
[01:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master dbe5781 Simon Quigley: Further setup.py tweaks and a debian/copyright overhaul.
[01:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master 2060c38 Simon Quigley: Remove some unneeded files under debian/.
[02:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN7vM
[02:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master fb34976 Simon Quigley: Make the README actually useful.
[02:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN7vy
[02:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master 7de6c19 Simon Quigley: Picky GitHub wants it to be an md file; ok.
[02:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-about] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN7U2
[02:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master 814e23f Simon Quigley: Autogenerating the dialog is annoying, let's just put it as a class in lubuntu-about to save time.
[02:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-about] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN7UM
[02:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-about/master a467bfe Simon Quigley: Correct the packaging; it should be good now to ship a binary.
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-sru-announce/2018-January/000117.html
[04:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN7Ih
[04:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/master ae14d3f Simon Quigley: Add a bootloader.conf.
[08:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] m4sk1n opened pull request #1: Add Polish translation (master...master) https://git.io/vN7cE
[11:45] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> does lubuntu have any methods to promote itself?
[11:48] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> is there a marketing/promo team?
 @Jacob Kim, Yeah, we have social media but we don't have a marketing team
[12:40] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> gotcha
[12:41] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> it'd be really nice if we can get lubuntu next working soon
[12:41] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> so that a promo video might even be made
 Right, I agree
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3674.mp4
[12:45] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> 😆
 :D
 :D
 @Schyken, dear, Gnome is als removing the "It Sucks" feature. soon there will be no Gnome. it'll disappear in an eternal space vacuum XD
 @VikingRedwolf, What am I supposed to do then?! D: 😆
 nothing. no icons, no desktop, no windows, no panels, no nothing to do. it'll be perfect! :D
 Absolutely :D
[13:12] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> hmm im a pretty big fan of gnome rn
[13:12] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> wonder y pple hate it so much?
 It just sucks :P
[13:15] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> D:
[13:16] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> i like OS with macOS-like UI
[13:16] <lubot1> <Jacob Kim> if u tweak kde to be like that it looks a bit awkward
 Jacob I like it, but they're screwing up some things, like the "new icon views" with a static grid. they plan to remove he drag'n'drop feature. also the desktop icons. and more
[16:04] <agaida> moin - can someone ping me if gilir is around?
 @VikingRedwolf, The Alien desktop metaphore
[16:06] <agaida> redwolf: as long they "only" destroy Gnome i'm fine with :P
[16:09] <agaida> anyways - some other DEs follow with really great ideas - KDE with throwing an hard coded exception if one want to open kwrite, kate or dolphin as root:P - so one can start plasma as root, but isn't allowed to start the filemanager or a edior :D - really great - and you forgot to mention the the gnomes don't like the *nix middleklick
[16:09] <agaida> s/the/that
[16:18] <agaida> ping JulienLavergnegi
 @julienlavergne ^
 ?
 BTW anyone is going to FOSDEM this we ?
[16:46] <agaida> hi gilir - any idea where you set the session for that  60x11-common_xdg_path?
[16:46] <agaida> would make the environment look not so fugly if set for LXQt too
[16:46] <agaida> 2018-01-27  01:28:56 <agaida> /etc/xdg/xdg-/usr/share/xsessions/lxqt:/etc/xdg
[16:47] <agaida> the xdg-{} part
 agaida: is weblate.lxqt.org going to work properly? :D
[16:50] <agaida> it works - but it does nothing right now
[16:50] <agaida> if you are interested - implement it
 I don't remember the exact file which do this, this should be your xsession name instead of the empty string
 On Lubuntu Next session, it's QLubuntu (I fixed it some days ago on our default settings git)
 @julienlavergne, No, but I think some Ubuntu folks are going, I can ask around :)
 @julienlavergne, OK cool, can you please upload it to the archive?
[17:08] <agaida> erm - re Qlubuntu - only a thought - lxqt-session now provide a session - maybe this session should be used as it is installed anyways
 That's not something provided by any session manager or display manager, it's deeper in the stack and every Ubuntu session have it by default
 @tsimonq2, OK, is the artwork package is also ready for an upload ?
[17:13] <agaida> only to prevent mis-understandings - second one was about /usr/share/xsessions
 @tsimonq2, No need, I'll recognize them :-)
 @julienlavergne, Ah OK, tell them I say hi :)
 @julienlavergne, I haven't personally tested the whole package, maybe put it in a PPA? I think @VikingRedwolf can attest to this better :)
 Although I have installed the new theme packages and they work very well
 what?
 huh?
[17:50] <teward> Redwolf: who?
[17:50] <teward> :p
 everything works (artwork, I mean)
 TEWARD! ❤
 @VikingRedwolf, From the daily Git report?
 *repo
[17:51] <lubot1> * VikingRedwolf licks teward's cheek
 @tsimonq2, ah, no, from my own local isolated-from-the-world install
 Ah ok
 isn't that git thing bidirectional now?
 Yessir
 so, supposedly, my changes are in LP too
 25 after the hour and 55 after the hour it does the bidirectional dance
 O.O
[17:53] <lubot1> * VikingRedwolf checks it
 LIES! changes from3 days ago are not in the LP repo
 O.O
 I'll fix it when I get home then
 Unless Raf the DEVELOPER wants to fix it .__.
 Right wxl?
 never!
 I'm a user! only! a lazy one!
[18:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN58w
[18:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master 4d55e7e Julien Lavergne: Add lxqt-panel default config
 .__.
 lugito ._.
 who is lugito?
 It's the GitHub IRC bot
 "lugito"...    .__.
[18:10] <wxl> LUbuntu + GIT + um, uhhh... o.
[18:11] <wxl> as in "el lugito"
 yes, it sounds... like a Mexican villain from a Matt Damon movie. El Lugito.
 I blame krytarik :P
[18:13] <wxl> there's mexican villans in matt damon movies?
[18:13] <wxl> maybe you're thinking robert rodriguez
 no, it's like a Maxican code-name for the Bourne program
[18:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN5RQ
[18:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master 4a7e672 Julien Lavergne: Update lxqt.conf with new theme
 yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
[18:28] <gilir> tsimonq2: is papirus-icon-theme was added to the seed ?
 @gilir, Not yet. Want to do that or should I?
[18:40] <gilir> tsimonq2: go ahead, I'm on the config files right now
 You must. It's in the Ubuntu repos.
 @gilir, Ack
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN5Vk
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master 355ddee Julien Lavergne: Update lxqt.conf with upstream values
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master 109367e Julien Lavergne: Update lxqt-session config with upstream values and Lubuntu-Next specific default
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master 4abf205 Julien Lavergne: Update lxqt windowmanagers.conf with upstream values
[19:27] <gilir> redwolf: should we use Lubuntu or Lubuntu Arc for the lxqt theme ?
[19:27] <redwolf> Lubuntu Arc
[19:27] <redwolf> Lubuntu is our old beloved Box theme
[19:27] <redwolf> There's a matching openbox theme also
[19:28] <redwolf> and the gtk theme should be just Arc
[19:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN5oq
[19:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/master 890cbff Julien Lavergne: Switch to Lubuntu Arc lxqt theme
[20:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-artwork] tsimonq2 pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN5PW
[20:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-artwork/master 9fa45d7 Julien Lavergne: Update debian/changelog
[20:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-artwork/master f7174fb Julien Lavergne: Fix description
[20:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-artwork/master fafee10 Julien Lavergne: Release 0.70
[20:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN5XI
[20:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master a5362e8 Marcin Mikołajczak: Add Polish translation (#1)
 In case you guys didn't see, I converted cute-software-center to Git and put it on GitHub and Launchpad.
[20:35] <lubot1> Right now the goal with it is to get it current and working as-is. Once that's done, we can work on adding more features.
[20:35] <lubot1> Eventually, this will be Lubuntu Next's default software center if everything works out.
 Just one of those little things that I don't think will immediately work out but if there's enough interest it'll happen :)
 @tsimonq2, *cough* we *cough* tried *cough cough* before
[21:37] <redwolf> tsimonq2, where's my release cycle? :)
 @redwolf, Coming, dear.
[21:38] <redwolf> :)
[22:07] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: lubuntu-artwork [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.70] (no packageset)
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] m4sk1n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNdel
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master e250fc7 Marcin Mikołajczak: Update Polish translation...
 lugito... LOL


[09:12] <vibhav> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grace/+bug/705202 is fixed in Debian, should I prepare a merge or just wait for it to get synced?
[09:23] <vibhav> Also, can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/932439 be nominated for oneiric?
[13:04] <jtaylor> how does a fakesync work? it only changes the debian revision, how can it change the orig.tar?
[13:04] <Laney> you rebuild the source package with a different orig to the one debian has
[13:04] <Laney> so the checksums are different
[13:05] <jtaylor> so it keeps the ubuntu orig?
[13:05] <Laney> yes
[13:05] <Laney> i think syncpackage can detect this situation
[13:07] <jtaylor> it does
[14:26] <eagles0513875> micahg: nobody is installer that channel is dead :( dunno who i can turn to for some really show stopper bugs :(
[18:12] <Laney> eagles0513875: A lot of folk aren't around on the weekend.
[18:13] <eagles0513875> Laney: i know but nobody was in ubuntu-installer yesterday and it was friday
[18:13] <Laney> If it was the evening UK time then you might have been too late.
[18:16] <eagles0513875> ya I'm only uk +1 where i am
[18:16] <eagles0513875> Laney: do you think you could help me with an installer issue?
[18:17] <Laney> no I don't, sorry :(
[18:17] <Laney> This is one area that I have very little knowledge of
[18:19] <eagles0513875> its ok
[18:19] <eagles0513875> basically the way things are right now kubuntu is useless as a desktop for me
[18:19] <eagles0513875> be it live cd or otherwise
[18:21] <geser> is the kubuntu desktop installer that much different from the gnome desktop installer?
[18:21] <geser> I see now and then installer questions in #ubuntu-devel, perhaps you might have there any success
[18:22] <Laney> I would suggest that you just ask your question in #-installer and wait for a response.
[18:23] <Laney> Or post it to the installer mailing list.
[18:23] <Laney> Or, if it is a bug, file it on Launchpad.
[18:32] <eagles0513875> geser: no
[18:32] <eagles0513875> only thing that is different is the desktop that is installed
[18:35] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[18:38] <eagles0513875> Laney: question
[18:38] <eagles0513875> my issue though is more related to grub
[18:39] <eagles0513875> cuz i have a fairly recent gnu and with noveau it needs nomodeset for grub to be able to boot cuz with out it i get a black screen so would that be something to discuss with the installer people?
[18:43] <PaoloRotolo> Hi, can You please sponsor my patch for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1001646
[19:09] <AmberJ_> Hello
[19:10] <AmberJ_> Is there any reason why anyone should prefer Ubuntu "Packaging" over "CPack"?
[19:10] <AmberJ_> By Ubuntu "Packaging", I mean the Packaging guide on Ubuntu wiki...
[19:12] <geser> what is "CPack"?
[19:13] <PaoloRotolo> up :)
[19:15] <AmberJ_> geser, CPack is a packaging system for software distributions which is tightly integrated with CMake, but can function without it.
[19:16] <jtaylor> how does it handle dependencies?
[19:16] <AmberJ_> geser, It allows you to generate: Linux RPM, deb and gzip distributions of both binaries and source code; NSIS files (for Microsoft Windows); Mac OS X packages
[19:17] <jtaylor> a such a thing, you can often use that as a starting point, but to integrate it properly into the debian/ubuntu ecosystem extra work is required
[19:18] <AmberJ_> jtaylor, 'make'/'cmake' does the dependency handling for it.
[19:18] <PaoloRotolo> Hi, can you please sponsor my patch for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/1001646  :)
[19:18] <geser> AmberJ_: does it support the same "interface" to allow a buildd build the binary packages from a source package?
[19:19] <Laney> PaoloRotolo: Someone will get to it through the sponsors queue :-)
[19:19] <Laney> It's probably a good idea to send it upstream (to Debian) though, since we get this package unmodified from them.
[19:20] <jtaylor> AmberJ_: these tools are useful for upstreams to distribute to many plattforms, but if you want a package in the archive, follow the ubuntu/debian packaging guides
[19:20] <AmberJ_> geser, I don't know. I came here looking for help/info about pros and cons of cmake. I'm planning to package something and cmake seems to do it quickly but I was more interested to see if it follows same interface/standards.
[19:21] <AmberJ_> jtaylor, Do you mean that if I expect my package to be in ubuntu/debian repos, I need to follow ubuntu/debian packaging guides?
[19:21] <geser> AmberJ_: the Ubuntu (and Debian) build daemons only support Debian source packages, so if you intend to get a package into the Ubuntu and/or Debian archive, they must have that format
[19:21] <AmberJ_> ok I get it :) Thanks a lot!
[19:22] <AmberJ_> I'll go and start reading packaging guide then...
[19:22] <geser> but for your own homepage (or project page) you can also build them with CPack (assuming it generates good packages) (but of course proper Debian packaging would be preferred)
[19:23] <jtaylor> when is mergomatic going to be fixed?
[19:24] <geser> when IS handles that MoM ticket and looks into it
[19:24] <AmberJ_> Well, I might end up using CPack for osx/cygwin, but I'll use packaging guide for Ubuntu/Debian.
[19:37] <Laney> someone could run another instance
[19:37] <Laney> I tried but update-sources.py killed the m1.large I used :O


[00:26] <space-cube-5-M> where am i
[00:55] <rain_523> Hello, I've been having some problems by trying to pair some wireless headphones of mine to my pc with bluetooth. Whenever I turn bluetooth on the headphones never appear. I've connected the headphones to my phone before so I'm sure there's a problem with my laptop, not the headphones.
 try to unpair them
 i mean delete your headphones from yr laptop list
 bleutooth list
[03:28] <space-cube-5-M> onqi gud
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0HMGbCQh/file_43766.jpg hello guys i don't know why (individual core usage widget) Text-only Sensors not showing and sometimes battery icon suddenly gone and when i add battery widget show no battery available
 Fwd from erfan_sta: i reset plasma to factory but not helped
[06:07] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:10] <alkisg> o/
 morning
[07:26] <lnielsen> Hi all. My multi-monitor configuration is corrupted. Whenever I open the configuration, my 4K display isn't shown, the laptop it's connected to also has a screen which is either replicated which I can't disable or it overlaps, or it shows some kind of screen-in-screen...
[07:27] <lnielsen> I already tried restarting, disconnecting and reconnecting, removing and adding, shuffling the screens around, but my 4K monitor isn't even shown in the arrangement.
[07:27] <lnielsen> Any way I can hard reset the entire config?
[07:27] <lordievader> lnielsen: Does `xrandr` still see it?
[07:27] <lnielsen> It sees the monitor in the configuration
[07:27] <lnielsen> It doesn't show it in the layout arragnement
[07:28] <lnielsen> And I have desktop, it's just messed up, a replica, an overlap, etc.
[07:28] <lnielsen> This is extremely buggy, but I just want to do a hard reset
[07:29] <lnielsen> Also, I somehow can't switch off 'replica' for the laptop monitor
[07:32] <lnielsen> Also, both are somehow named "laptop screen" in the dropdown, until I select the 4K, it changes to its real name/ID
[07:32] <lnielsen> So, very obviously totally corrupted and bugged
[07:32] <lordievader> lnielsen: Does a new profile have the same problem?
[07:33] <lnielsen> Hmm, good idea
[07:33] <lnielsen> I'll try that
[07:33] <lnielsen> bbiab
[07:37] <lnielsen> Whoever I was talking to just now: the problem doesn't present when creating a new user
[07:37] <lnielsen> So I could run a diff -Nru
[07:38] <lnielsen> Or something?
[07:40] <lnielsen> Hmmm, that yields no difference
[07:40] <lordievader> These days all the kde config should reside in `~/.config`. I'd hunt out anything related to kscreen, move that to somewhere else, and then a log-out-> log-in to see if the problem persists.
[07:41] <lnielsen> Yeah, I switched to .config just now and the changes are endless
[07:43] <lnielsen> Ok, I'll see what I can dig up with some cli magix
[07:43] <lnielsen> :p
 I have backports repo on hirsute enabled and added the stuff to /etc/apt/preferences to always use the backports repo (pin priority 500). … When I do a … apt -t hirsute-backports upgrage … I receive error saying its not in sources.
 "E: The value 'hirsute-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources"
[07:50] <lnielsen> lordievader: there is no .kscreen ?
[07:52] <lordievader> Hrmm, would `~/.local/share/kscreen` be responsible?
[07:56] <lnielsen> lordievader: looks like it
[07:58] <lnielsen> trying..
[08:01] <lnielsen> lordievader: you're a goddamned hero
[08:02] <lnielsen> just renaming the folder to .old and logging back in worked, Not unexpected, I inspected the contents of what was in there and it did look exactly the kind of warped display config I expected to find
[08:02] <lnielsen> But I would have had no idea where to look if not for you, so thanks a million
[08:04] <lordievader> No problem. Been there done that ;)
 Hi, … I think I somehow messed my audio/bt drivers. … I manage to connect my bt headphones (I get a notification they are connected from both the computer and the headphones), yet all sounds come only from the computer. Imagine what it can lead to... … Did anybody experience the same issue?
 5ANA
[08:39] <lordievader> Install and open `pavucontrol` to see if the audio is going to the right sink.
[10:11] <lnielsen> What/where is this Telegram channel IrcsomeBot is relaying? Just curious
[10:14] <Maik> lnielsen: have a look on the kubuntu website, there should be a link to telegram
[10:30] <lnielsen> Maik: ah, yes, here: https://kubuntu.org/community/  thanks
[10:33] <Maik> np, yw
 sudo apt-get install -t hirsute-backports amarok … Reading package lists... Done … E: The value 'hirsute-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
 Why am I getting this error?
 Anyone please help.
 hello. What is the default audio program used in kubuntu? I would like to remove it and install kmix
[11:20] <oosk> Hello what should I do with these errors please ?https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HjvrbNSjKv/
[11:22] <alkisg> oosk: run a `sudo LANG=C apt install -f`, and paste the whole terminal output, so that we can see which one is the first error
[11:32] <lnielsen> oosk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1917971
[11:34] <lnielsen> I do understand some French and from what I can tell you paste says there are various dependency problems
[11:34] <lnielsen> your*
[11:34] <lnielsen> You could try to fix those with LC_ALL=C apt -f install and then tell us what the output of that is
[11:35] <lnielsen> Did you mix repositories in an attempt to install packages otehrwise inaccessible to you?
[11:35] <alkisg> Yeah, the kernel update can't write the initramfs and it's blocking the rest of the updates; but since he's using linuxmint, I told him to ask there lnielsen
[11:35] <alkisg> (he also asked in many other channels...)
[11:38] <oosk> 3 others*
[11:38] <oosk> because in LM channel they said "reinstall os"
[11:38] <alkisg> !linuxmint
[11:38] <alkisg> Unfortunately this is a problem with distributions with less users
[11:39] <alkisg> They don't have enough support
[11:39] <alkisg> (or packages of good quality)
[11:39] <alkisg> Now if you run `which apt`, you'll see that you're using a different apt than the rest of the world, because they have to patch it just to prevent their hand-modified packages from breaking
[11:40] <alkisg> If you run `apt -y update`, it'll even say "not supported"; just reinstall with normal ubuntu ;)
[11:41] <lnielsen> alkisg: oh, I missed that
[11:41] <alkisg> lnielsen: yeah that was in #ubuntu-mate
[11:42] <lnielsen> Well, I have nothing against Mint, but it's never to late to develop an antipathy :P
[11:42] <lnielsen> too*
[11:43] <lordievader> oosk, alkisg : Why can't it write the initramfs? Disk full?
[11:43] <alkisg> I spent an hour before realizing that they're shipping an "apt override" just to prevent system breakage :(
[11:43] <alkisg> lordievader: no idea, I stopped the analysis when I realized it was linuxmint
[11:44] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pPffxFfHxT/
[11:44] <oosk> Boot is full
[11:44] <oosk> Disk is encrypted
[11:46] <oosk> alkisg
[11:46] <lordievader> oosk: Did you already remove unsused kernels? (The packages, not the kernels itself)
[11:46] <oosk> I tried but it seems not working
[11:47] <oosk> I got only 3 kernels installed so why boot is full ?
[11:48] <lordievader> oosk: Could you pastebin the output of `df -h /boot` and `du -hs /boot/*`?
[11:49] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D6zYYSwzZf/
[11:50] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fXJJH59Dzh/
[11:51] <lordievader> oosk: What is the output of `dpkg -l|grep linux-image`?
[11:52] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bVqJ3nGwSb/
[11:52] <lordievader> In Ubuntu land an `apt-get autoremove` should leave only the previous and current kernel. That doesn't seem to be the case with you. Might be Mint policy.
[11:53] <oosk> I'll be back in one hour max
[11:53] <oosk> thx everyone
[11:54] <lordievader> oosk: You want to purge those -5[0-9]- kernels (`apt purge linux-image-5.4.0-5*-generic` should select all of those, but check the output). And the -26- kenrel needs to be manually removed.
[11:54] <lordievader> That will clear up some space.
[11:54] <lordievader> After that you should be able to run your updates again.
 I'm very sorry for asking it for the third time but I truely am unable to figure out what's the issue. I can not make backports to work on Kubuntu 21.04. Can anyone please help?
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rJNtgfnCcQ/
 This is the error that I'm getting
[12:24] <lordievader> The error is quite clear, ain't it? "as such a release is not available in the sources"
[12:24] <lordievader> There likely is not support (yet) for 21.04 in the backports repo.
 What does 'sources' here represent? Is it the repositories? Or my local sources.list file in /etc/apt/ ?
 Oh! Can you enlighten me on this a bit? I manually visited http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and in the /ubuntu/dists directory, there is hirsute-backports. Although there isn't any Package in /ubuntu/dists/hirsute-backports/main/binary-amd64
 But there are "Release" files on the repo ar http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hirsute-backports
 *at
[12:49] <lordievader> Ah, wait. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the message. Is the hirsute-backports release part of your sources? (`cat /etc/apt/sources.list` and `cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list`)
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T4mkF5mgb8/
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rCyBQBMX4D/
 Also ran `sudo apt update` numerous times to ensure hirsute-backports gets listed and there are no errors.
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k72RbQJTNH/
[12:57] <Mamarok> and why don't you use the kubuntu backport sources?  you should have something like deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ hirsute main
[12:57] <lordievader> musxigxn: What is the output of `apt-cache policy amarok`?
 lordievadar, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GgkdrkvjvZ/
[12:58] <Mamarok> as for "backprts of Amarok": there is no such thing, at least not that I know of, you are lookign for the PPAs for the current alpha release I guess?
 I mean lordievader
 Mamarok, amarok is just for testing if the ubuntu backports repo works or not. If the package is not in the repo, the error must be different. In my case, it is related to 'hirsute-backports' being invalid for APT.
[13:00] <lordievader> Unless it is still in the kubuntu backports, I'm afraid amarok is no longer maintained: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=amarok
[13:01] <lordievader> 18.04 seems the latest release to have the package.
 Error is not specific to the package. I tried it on other packages like gimp, libreoffice.
[13:01] <Mamarok> that's what I jsut said, you need the PPAs from pgomes or joe-yasi for the current Amarok build
 If the package isn't available in the backports repo, APT would throw a relevant error instead of saying that the release is invalid.
 I do not want amarok. I just want to get hirsute-backports repo to work.
[13:02] <Mamarok> change to the main server for your updates?
 Already using the main server.
 i.e deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hirsute-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[13:03] <lordievader> Looking at the size of the Packages.gz file, I think it is too early for -backports. Those files are empty for main and multiverse.
[13:04] <Mamarok> the only backports I can see that work are the kubuntu-ppa ones
 lordievader, yes, I saw that too. But how to confirm if the error is due to this fact only?
[13:04] <lordievader> musxigxn: why do you need hirsute-backports to work?
 I didn't need them. I was just reading about backports in general and liked the idea. I just gave it a try and received that strange error. I just want to know the root cause of the error for my own understanding.
[13:08] <Mamarok> again, if you want Kubuntu backports, you should add the Kubuntu-ppa backports, the other one is probably without any Plasma/KDE packages
[13:08] <lordievader> I'm quite certain the backports repo is not yet in use, causing the error. Guess it is too early in the release cycle for 21.10 for there to be backports.
 @Mamarok, Kubuntu PPA backports are different than Ubuntu backports.
[13:08] <Mamarok> the kubuntu-ppa has the 5.81.0 framework packages
[13:09] <Mamarok> yes, but since you are in the @kubuntu channel here we talk about Kubuntu here :-)
 Kubuntu is essentially Ubuntu. Isn't it?
 Same packages. Same repositories (Default).
[13:14] <Mamarok> nope, different team
[13:15] <Mamarok> different desktop, etc. and the backports are specific
[13:16] <Mamarok> the only thing you might get in the ubuntu backports that is common are newer kernel versions
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:24] <Nie_Wer> Hello BluesKaj
[13:24] <BluesKaj> hi Nie_Wer
[14:27] <oosk> lordievader https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHHzdB4VRY/
[14:28] <oosk> Hi it's still here.
[14:29] <lordievader> Ah, lovely you're in 'that' situation. Try removing the -26- kernel and initramfs manually, perhaps that clears enough space for the new kernel.
[14:32] <oosk> I don't have that one
[14:32] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bVqJ3nGwSb/
[14:36] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JTjBw2pkQh/
[14:36] <alkisg> oosk: no. What was the output of `ls -l /boot`; it's best to delete some old initramfs from there, and let it run it course
[14:37] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wb6hVSRQSQ/
[14:38] <lordievader> oosk: In there (/boot) you have a -26- kernel and initramfs
[14:38] <alkisg> oosk: sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-6; sudo apt install -f
[14:38] <alkisg> oosk: sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-5.4.0-6*; sudo apt install -f
[14:38] <alkisg> the second one; I forgot the asterisk in the first one
[14:38] <lordievader> I'd leave the -6*- kernels als there are still packages for those. A purge should clean those up (including all the modules left over)
[14:39] <alkisg> lordievader: initramfs isn't a package file
[14:39] <alkisg> It's generated, not part of dpkg -L
[14:39] <lordievader> Hrmm, fair enough
[14:39] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tn5b4sG8Qz/
[14:40] <alkisg> oosk: use LANG=C, and paste all the output; did it remove the kernels above what you just sent?
[14:40] <alkisg> export LANG=C
[14:40] <alkisg> so that we can read the output of the following commands
[14:41] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VC2mYnjWqw/
[14:41] <alkisg> oosk: run `ls /boot`, is it cleaner now, does it have more free space?
[14:42] <alkisg> (or df -h)
[14:43] <oosk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B43HspKSMr/
[14:44] <alkisg> OK enough space; the kernel ^rc packages will be cleared when the other errors get avoided,
[14:45] <alkisg> So the errors now are basically samba-common and grub-efi-amd64,
[14:45] <alkisg> oosk, did you do anything about that, e.g. like the rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common* that you suggested?
[14:45] <alkisg> Do you have any indication why samba errors out?
[14:45] <oosk> No
[14:46] <oosk> I wanted to know if it's a good solution
[14:46] <alkisg> OK
[14:46] <oosk> ?
[14:46] <oosk> Should I try these recommendations?
[14:46] <alkisg> No
[14:46] <oosk> Ok
[14:46] <alkisg> They'll make things worse
[14:46] <alkisg> Can you install a package? sudo apt install x11vnc
[14:47] <oosk> You want teamviewer?
[14:47] <alkisg> I have vnc and anydesk
[14:47] <alkisg> teamviewer doesn't run for me it says...
[14:47] <alkisg> They complain that I used it a lot, which I didn't
[14:47] <alkisg> But if you can install x11vnc, it's just one command to share screen
[14:48] <alkisg> x11vnc -connect alkisg.ltsp.org
[14:48] <oosk> PM me
[14:48] <oosk> i'll give you anydesk
[14:52] <alkisg> oosk: wait don't leave
[14:52] <alkisg> I'm loooking for a command
[14:52] <oosk> Ok thqnks
[14:52] <alkisg> Meh I'll just re-write it
[14:53] <oosk> what is it please
[14:54] <oosk> do you know how to fix this please
[14:55] <oosk> its a minor pb
[14:55] <alkisg> oosk, the first problem was fixed. This one is BIGGER though
[14:55] <oosk> LOOOL
[14:55] <alkisg> Because it means that you have deleted files from /lib/dpkg manually
[14:55] <oosk> thanks a lot
[14:55] <alkisg> Wait, give me a bit of time
[14:56] <oosk> its due to LM upgrade from 20 to 20.1
[14:58] <oosk> I have to do this for every line
[14:58] <alkisg> No
[14:58] <alkisg> Wait, I need to go, let me sum up:
[14:58] <oosk> thanks a lot
[14:58] <alkisg> (I'll be back in an hour, wait: )
[14:58] <alkisg> I want to tell to the channel what I did
[14:58] <alkisg> And to you; keep it in your notes
[14:59] <oosk> No problem
[14:59] <alkisg> I inserted an `exit 0` at the top of samba-common.postinst and grub-efi-amd64.postinst,
[14:59] <alkisg> so that apt finishes; we can then run these postinsts later to see what's wrong,
[14:59] <alkisg> then I removed your ^rc kernels,
[14:59] <oosk> what's rc?
[14:59] <alkisg> rc means a package that was removed, but without its config files getting removed,
[14:59] <oosk> old one? non used
[14:59] <oosk> ok thanks
[14:59] <alkisg> and "ic" was a linux version that was half-uninstalled,
[15:00] <alkisg> and now you have a problem where something (possibly the upgrade) deleted the dpkg information for some packages, not all of them,
[15:00] <alkisg> if you apt install --reinstall package, then this will go away,
[15:00] <alkisg> but you DONT need all these packages; some of them might even conflict; they may only be needed in the older linuxmint,
[15:00] <alkisg> in which case, you need to apt install --reinstall package and then apt purge package
[15:01] <oosk> How can I know if I need them or not ?
[15:01] <alkisg> But you need to see e.g. in a linuxmint live cd which ones should be there and which ones not
[15:01] <oosk> Ok I see
[15:01] <alkisg> If you see a lot of changes, don't do it
[15:01] <oosk> it's not a big deal
[15:01] <alkisg> If you see that it only installs/purges a single package, do it
[15:01] <oosk> Upgrade in Linux isn't very stable I see
[15:01] <alkisg> It may cause other problems in the future, better fix it now.
[15:01] <alkisg> It's very stable. But in mint it's not
[15:02] <alkisg> Really, don't use mint next time, they break packaging
[15:02] <alkisg> Time to go! Cheers!
[15:02] <oosk> Thanks a lot Sir !
[15:03] <alkisg> np
[15:03] <alkisg> oosk
[15:03] <alkisg> ah, and another thing,
[15:03] <alkisg> You'll want to fix samba-common and grub-efi too, the postinst
[15:03] <alkisg> If you're here later on we can have a look together
[15:03] <oosk> Ok thanks !
[15:04] <oosk> If it's work without
[15:04] <oosk> I don't care
[15:04] <oosk> of them
[15:06] <oosk> As long as it doesn't trigger another mistake in the future.
[15:06] <oosk> That's fine with me.
[17:20] <n0yd> Hello
[17:21] <n0yd> Is there a way to disable the sound that comes along with using function keys (and i assune other hardware keys) to change volume?
[17:21] <n0yd> I'd like to disable to "bloop" sound for everytime you press it
[17:28] <n0yd> nvm, found the answer ;)