[02:02] <ebroder> I realize that users should never see it at all, but could we suppress the "getpwid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" warning from plymouth/glib by just creating a bogus /etc/passwd in the initrd?
[02:02] <ebroder> (with an entry for root)
[02:24] <slangasek> ebroder: that's the appropriate workaround, I believe.  Bug #649917 - test it out, submit?
[02:25] <ebroder> slangasek: Will do
[02:26] <GanonKiller> there is a bug with alsa & VLC
[02:26] <GanonKiller> VLC failed to initialize your sound output device (if any).
[02:26] <GanonKiller> Please update alsa-lib to version 1.0.23-2-g8d80d5f or higher to try to fix this issue.
[02:27] <ebroder> slangasek: You're not interested in seeing this SRU'd, are you?
[02:28] <slangasek> ebroder: I am, actually; this issue generates a lot of bug mail noise that is obviously not helpful for fixing the underlying plymouth issues
[02:29] <ebroder> slangasek: Ah, good point. If I can get something working, I'll try to push it back to Lucid too
[02:29] <slangasek> ta
[02:29] <GanonKiller> there is no update
[02:29] <slangasek> GanonKiller: please file a bug against the vlc package, then with the command 'ubuntu-bug vlc' - this is not a bug reporting channel
[03:04] <ebroder> Hmm...why does lp:ubuntu/plymouth not have the 0.8.2-2ubuntu5 version Riddell from the beginning of the month?
[03:06] <slangasek> ebroder: bug #653832
[03:06] <slangasek> (http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/)
[03:07] <ebroder> blargh
[04:14] <miked> looking for php/java project to hack on
[04:14] <miked> very much newbie, anyone needs help?
[04:18]  * ebroder squints
[04:19] <ebroder> So plymouth in the initrd is only enabled if the FRAMEBUFFER option is set, which is done by casper but not the default install?
[04:26] <slangasek> ebroder: it's only in the initramfs if we have something else in the initramfs that *needs* to prompt or show progress; otherwise it's only started post-initramfs so we can get to the real rootfs faster
[04:27]  * ebroder nods
[04:28] <ebroder> well, i've hacked it into my initramfs, and hacked an /etc/passwd into my initramfs, and that doesn't seem to be enough to suppress the error. maybe i need an nsswitch.conf too or something?
[04:29] <slangasek> hmm
[04:29] <slangasek> probably
[04:29] <ebroder> (i thought libc would fall back on compat or files or something if there wasn't an nsswitch)
[04:33] <ebroder> hmm...nope, making a fake nsswitch.conf ("passwd: compat") and copying /lib/libnss_compat* into the initrd doesn't seem to be enough either
[04:34] <ebroder> ah - libnss_compat has dependencies
[04:39] <slangasek> nss_files is really what you want
[04:39] <slangasek> and leave out nss_compat, that's just overhead
[04:43] <ebroder> ok
[09:26] <jmehdi> could someone help me, I'm remastering ubuntu live cd and I have a problem with plymouth...
[11:11] <pavolzetor> Hallo
[11:11] <pavolzetor> I have reported bug a while ago
[11:11] <pavolzetor> and also posted patch
[11:11] <pavolzetor> but no one cares
[11:11] <pavolzetor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/653995
[11:15] <pavolzetor> anyone?
[12:54] <corecode> hey
[12:55] <corecode> i've been reading for an hour already, but i can't find a simple solution for uploading a debian packge into my ppa
[12:55] <corecode> without having to edit the changelog
[12:56] <corecode> what's the preferred way to tell the system to build this in, say, maverick instead of unstable
[12:56] <kklimonda_> you have to change the changelog
[12:59] <corecode> that seems excessive
[13:00] <corecode> for example bsd-mailx has version 8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1
[13:00] <corecode> there is no ubuntu either
[13:00] <corecode> how does that work then?
[13:02] <kklimonda_> by that do you mean "how do I upload it to ubuntu ppa" ?
[13:03] <corecode> i don't understand
[13:04] <kklimonda_> that's probably because I'm still half-asleep.
[13:04] <corecode> ditto :)
[13:04] <kklimonda_> oh, I understand
[13:04] <kklimonda_> bsd-mailx in the 8.1.2-0.20100314cvs-1 version doesn't have an ubuntu release in the changelog because it has been synced from debian directly.
[13:05] <kklimonda_> but you can't do that for PPAs
[13:05] <corecode> but i can't do that for my ppa?
[13:05] <corecode> if i wanted to build versions for jaunty, karmic, lucid and maverick, i'd have to do 4 manual modifications, run a debuild, then a dput?
[13:08] <kklimonda_> yeah, at least for now. The problem is that you can't have the same package with the same version but different pockets in the single ppa
[13:08] <kklimonda_> so you have to upload them separately anyway.
[13:08] <kklimonda_> okay, I have to go for a breakfast
[13:15] <corecode> yes i realized that
[13:15] <corecode> shouldn't there be an easy way to specify the "pocket" during dput or debuild?
[13:15] <corecode> without having to change the changelog
[13:16] <StevenK> Nope, the pocket is figured from the .changes file
[13:16] <corecode> ok
[13:16] <corecode> so, can that pocket be changed when creating the changes file?
[13:17] <corecode> i'm quite certain i saw a way to do that some time ago
[13:17] <corecode> but i can't find it, of course
[13:20] <StevenK> No, dpkg-genchanges can't do that
[13:35] <corecode> that's a bit unfortunate, isn't it?
[13:39] <corecode> not sure i understand completely - do i upload a source package or a binary package?
[13:42] <sladen> corecode: source.  *only*
[13:43] <sladen> corecode: the build machines (buildds) compile it
[13:47] <corecode> i see
[13:47] <corecode> thanks
[13:48] <corecode> so it says that packages in debian sid will automatically appear in ubuntu
[13:48] <corecode> is that so?
[13:48] <corecode> or only for packages that already exist in ubuntu
[13:50] <tumbleweed> corecode: the archive admins will periodically review new pcakages not yet in ubuntu and sync them in
[13:50] <corecode> aha
[13:57] <Copernic__> is it easy to program something in Ubuntu? I'm used to Java, did do some C++, but thats 10 years ago :)
[13:57] <Copernic__> for ubuntu*
[13:57] <corecode> i don't think that it makes any difference to any other unix
[13:57] <Copernic__> I guess I should just try :)
[13:57] <corecode> type your code, compile, run
[13:59] <Copernic__> corecode, I was thinking about implementing this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24525/
[14:00] <corecode> i see
[14:00] <corecode> good luck
[14:00] <Copernic__> hehe
[14:01] <Copernic__> I never programmed something for linux before
[14:02] <corecode> i honestly think that idea is silly at best
[14:02] <corecode> and i have no experience in gui design or development
[14:02] <Copernic__> corecode, I came to this idea becaus the apparmor profile for firefox is disabled
[14:03] <Copernic__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Firefox%20AppArmor%20profile
[14:03] <Copernic__> I thought that users should be able to change this if they wanted to
[14:03] <corecode> they can, can't they
[14:04] <Copernic__> it's something only a technical user would do
[14:04] <corecode> of course
[14:05] <Copernic__> haha you don't see the problem do you :)
[14:05] <Copernic__> the general public isn't technical
[14:05] <corecode> right
[14:05] <corecode> so they won't know about apparmor
[14:05] <corecode> or what it means
[14:06] <Copernic__> indeed, and I was under the impression that apparmor is pretty important, because if some security threat is knocking at your door, it probably came with firefox or evolution
[14:06] <corecode> quite likely, yes
[14:08] <Copernic__> corecode, thats when I was starting to worry about the security for the general public :)
[14:09] <corecode> then you need to fix it so that the default will work
[14:09] <Copernic__> corecode, I'm guessing they tried that
[14:11] <Copernic__> bbl, I'm going to take a 20min nap :)
[14:22] <corecode> how do people do automated uploads?
[14:23] <corecode> don't they use passphrases on their gpg keys?
[14:24] <kklimonda_> corecode: I have a separate account (with separate key) for automated uploads.
[14:25] <corecode> and that key doesn't have a passphrase
[14:25] <kklimonda_> and now I don't do that anyway since launchpad has gained the ability to create nightly builds.
[14:25] <kklimonda_> right
[14:27] <corecode> from bzr branches?
[14:27] <corecode> how can it do a nightly build?  i thought the changes file has to be updated
[14:28] <kklimonda_> you can read more about recipes here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes
[14:29] <kklimonda_> the idea is that launchpad branches your code (along with the debian/ subdirectory) and then bumps the changelog for every release.
[14:30] <corecode> ah
[14:30] <corecode> yes, that would be convenient
[14:39] <corecode> hm.
[14:40] <corecode> seems that package *is* in ubuntu
[14:46] <corecode> somehow i could set information that this package is in ubuntu or debian
[14:46] <corecode> but i can't find it anymore
[15:24] <hooke> i've always been curious about how the grahics driver works,but i couldn't find any resources about this.anyone  can give me some  suggestions?
[16:31] <micahg> pitti: thunderbird on Ubuntu was deferred till Natty + 1, but we have a few work items to get the ball rolling
[16:31] <pitti> micahg: thanks for the heads-up; I targetted it to natty, do you want this spec for the "get the ball rolling" parts, or want me to untarget it again?
[16:32] <Ian_Corne> thunderbird in replacement of evince?
[16:32] <Ian_Corne> err evolution?
[16:32] <JontheEchidna> james_w: ping
[16:32] <micahg> pitti: for me it doesn't matter, if jcastro needs it for his work item, then we can leave it targetted for natty
[16:32] <pitti> micahg: ack; we can always postpone/untarget later then
[16:39] <pitti> micahg: what's PGO?
[16:39] <micahg> pitti: Profile Guided Optimizations
[16:39] <pitti> micahg: we were wonering about what priority https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-desktop-n-firefox-pgo-builds shold have
[16:40] <micahg> pitti: well, chrisccoulson has done most of the work already for it, but AFAIK, upstream isn't even doing this yet, so it's a nice to have, but not critical
[16:40] <micahg> pitti: we'll get a start speed increase if we can get this done though, so that might impact it as well
[16:41] <pitti> micahg: thanks; are you okay with being the approver for that one?
[16:41] <micahg> pitti: well, if you like, seems a little weird though
[16:42] <pitti> micahg: for the purpose of peer review; I can be the approver, too, but I'm afraid I know nothing about PGO
[16:42] <micahg> pitti: if it's just peer review, I'm happy to do it
[16:42] <pitti> micahg: thanks
[16:42]  * micahg still needs to read more on it
[16:43] <hallyn> didrocks: regarding alt-t in terminal in 10.10 unity, you marked that triaged - is that bc it's fixed upstream, or for some more subtle reason?
[16:45] <didrocks> hallyn: triaged is "the issue is known and confirmed". Upstream has an idea of where the issue is in that case.
[17:26] <andreserl> slangasek: ping?
[17:30] <magedragon25> maybe I can get some help here....I compiled my first kernel last night...I wanted a kernel specific to my hardware, but I think it compiled as a 32bit kernel. It stalled at the splash screen. Any tips on what to do next time, and how do i track down what went wrong this time
[17:36] <hallyn> didrocks: ok, thx - slightly different from teh two other definitions of 'triaged' i've heard :)  i was hoping it was more of a 'the fix is definately upstream'.  but thanks
[17:36] <didrocks> hallyn: no, this is "fix commited" in the upstream task
[17:38] <hallyn> alrighty.  (then i'll hold off a bit on upgrading the netbook)
[20:14] <james_w> hi JontheEchidna
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> james_w: hi, I was looking at policykit-1 looking at merging it/updating it to the latest upstream release. The second half of the 03_complete_session patch doesn't apply anymore due to upstream changes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/522254/
[20:17] <JontheEchidna> is the patch safe to drop, or do changes need to be made to it?
[20:25] <james_w> JontheEchidna, see the upstream bug report. I think it is still needed
[20:26] <james_w> JontheEchidna, actually, that half can be dropped I think
[20:26] <JontheEchidna> james_w: ok, cool
[20:51] <Cheery> I'd like to find some mechanism that lets me turn a virtual terminal to the opengl context for a duration of the executing program.
[20:52] <Cheery> gotten it was impossible while back then. but what about now?
[20:53] <Cheery> how quiet..
[22:22] <hawkal> Please can someone tell me where I can find out more about the 64bit netboot install e.g package list/ source code? I would like to take a look at the guts of it.
[22:27] <hawkal> I tried looking in cdimage.ubuntu.com but I couldn't see anything relevant to the netboot installs a part from iso files
[22:29] <cjwatson> apt-get source debian-installer - the stuff in build/ is the build system, the stuff in doc/ is documentation on how a bunch of stuff around it works.  you'll need to apt-get source additional packages from the package lists there in order to inspect individual components of the installer
[22:29] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installer/Development
[22:32] <hawkal> Thank you very much cjwatson
[23:51] <shadeslayer> pitti: ok you will probably get the mail 2 times, the first time i forgot to sign the key and just sent the keys


[19:37] <wxl> 503 at u.c discourse
[19:37] <wxl> chat-server too
[19:38] <wxl> does anyone know if there's a way to quickly alert someone in IS? i don't feel like a ticket would help much here
[19:45] <arraybolt3> Matrix seems down
[19:45] <wxl> yep, 'tis
[19:45] <wxl> as is discourse
[19:45] <wxl> see above :)
[19:45] <arraybolt3> discourse works for me
[19:46] <arraybolt3> and the Synapse server seems to be running somehow?
[19:46] <wxl> it wasn't
[19:46] <arraybolt3> oh it's back up
[19:46] <arraybolt3> and down again
[19:46] <wxl> i think we're back yeah
[19:46] <wxl> and down
[19:46] <arraybolt3> something's going wrong
[19:46] <wxl> XD
[19:46] <wxl> echo
[19:46] <arraybolt3> echo
[19:46] <arraybolt3> XD
[19:47] <arraybolt3> anyways, from what I heard someone apparently joined the Matrix HQ room and now the infra is having some trouble
[19:48] <arraybolt3> up again for now
[19:48] <wxl> ugh i got logged out of discourse in the middle of a draft which i don't think it saved ugh
[19:53] <wxl> well it KIND of saved it
[19:54] <wxl> anywho it's a little odd that they went down at the same time
[19:54] <wxl> i can't imagine them being on the same machine


[15:45] <Pendulum> hi, I was wondering if there was a guideline that gets used for grammar/spelling/punctuation for documentation? (eng-gb vs. eng-us)
[15:45] <popey> there is
[15:45] <popey> sadly I believe it's en-us
[15:46] <Pendulum> heh. any specifics beyond that? (i know of at least 3 style guides for punctuation and grammar for en-us)
[15:47] <Pendulum> (it was suggested to me that as someone who works in publishing, I might be able to be useful by proofreading documentation)
[15:48] <popey> I would ask mdke when he's about Pendulum
[15:48] <popey> he is clueful about these things
[15:49] <Pendulum> popey: okay, thanks :)
[17:25] <FFEMTcJ> I found a problem in some documentation.. Would someone be willing to walk me through reporting it/getting it fixed?
[17:33] <FFEMTcJ> Everyone busy in the classroom?
[17:33] <FFEMTcJ> heh
[18:10] <trijntje> FFEMTcJ, what problem did you find?
[18:13] <FFEMTcJ> trijntje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto  - under server configuration.. it says to create .synergy.conf - then under running synergy, it shows synergys -f --config synergy.conf, and then shows to mv synergy.conf to .synergy.conf..
[18:13] <FFEMTcJ> then later on it shows adding it to 'sessions' as synergy.conf
[18:14] <FFEMTcJ> can I just go through and edit the page to fix it or is there a proper way to do this?
[18:14] <FFEMTcJ> also, there isnt a 'sessions' in 9.10, so its out of date
[18:24] <trijntje> FFEMTcJ, i'm no expert on this, but its in /community so you should be able to edit it. Maybe you should hang around here for a while until someon from the wiki docs teams sees your question :)
[18:25] <FFEMTcJ> trijntje: i know i can edit.. just dont know if there is a proper proceedre
[18:30] <trijntje> FFEMTcJ, I dont think theres a procedure for fixing minor things. If they don't like it they can alway's set it back to the original, and the maintainers should get a notification someting changed
[18:30] <trijntje> FFEMTcJ, so i would go ahead and edit it, and see what happens ;)
[18:30] <FFEMTcJ> ok.. wasnt sure if your supposed to report it first.. since i see that there is a "bugs" thing for ubuntu-docs or not
[18:32] <trijntje> FFEMTcJ, i'm not on a wiki team myself, but they say this on their introduction page: The Documentation Wiki is a sub-project of the DocumentationTeam. It is a community-driven and open area of the Ubuntu documentation website which anyone can edit.
[18:32] <FFEMTcJ> sounds good
[18:32] <FFEMTcJ> thanks
[18:32] <trijntje> i would guess a bug is to say 'something is wrong', and just edit it if you are willing to fix it
[18:36] <mdke> Pendulum: this is what we have - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide/SpellingPunctuationGrammar
[18:38] <Pendulum> mdke: thanks :)


[12:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:15] <KingsQuest> enochian magic pineapples<PHONE_NUMBER>76273840918272716329801732983713820981372819808372309817336509817761098234716409182743161171849802737461489230817461534098234741634409823476431098233476509812347650981423765908134273691843761439801743123/////////////////.......08000500400392309183720984902910823746
[15:09] <oerheks> :-)
[15:30] <oerheks> a mission in trans
[15:31] <leftyfb> pretty sure he's talking out his ....
[15:33] <oerheks> hmm maybe he needs to understand that xenial gets fixes, but he reads 2.9.2 only
[15:33] <oerheks> still, hot water makes steam
[15:36] <tgm4883> support channel has some attitude this morning
[16:03] <tgm4883> still waiting on that bug report from Fyr
[16:05] <oerheks> i can only think of issues with magnetlinks
[17:29] <immu> BluesKaj, ducasse hey
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:38] <oerheks> hi lotus
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> hey oerheks how r you?
[17:39] <oerheks> i feel silly, i am playing with a 'spinner' i found
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> cool
[17:40] <oerheks> Now Drabber wants it too
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> im burning new artful daily
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> hi pisi
[17:40] <pisi> hi
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> lets hope they fixxed last wifi bug on 17.10 so i can test gnome a bit
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> toppanel is gnome-alike in setup, good start :p
[18:17] <lotus|bugbox> working like a charm
[18:18] <lotus|bugbox> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-64 (1,05GHz) • Memory: Physical: 2,6 GiB Total (1,6 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 18,5 GB / 244,1 GB (225,6 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 9100M G] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 11h Processor Link Control • Uptime: 7m 46s
[18:19] <lotus|bugbox> lotuspsychje@artful-bugbox:~$ uname -a
[18:19] <lotus|bugbox> Linux artful-bugbox 4.10.0-22-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 22 17:43:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:21] <lotus|bugbox> nacc, #DNSSEC=no
[18:21] <nacc> lotus|bugbox: yep, seems right :)
[18:21] <lotus|bugbox> great
[18:21] <nacc> lotus|bugbox: the commented out reflects the default value, iirc
[18:22] <lotus|bugbox> wifi working like a charm now
[18:31] <lotus|bugbox> http://imgur.com/a/jbggc
[18:31] <lotus|bugbox> new artful box with gnome
[18:31] <lotus|bugbox> feels smooth by default
[18:46] <lotus|bugbox> nacc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1690605 last comment is what you said
[18:53] <lotus|bugbox> bbl


[08:54]  * alan_g wonders if he really needs to wait for "someone other than the reporter" to confirm lp:1605182
[08:57] <duflu> alan_g: If you're a member of the project you can skip Confirmed and jump to Triaged
[08:58] <duflu> Assuming you took a moment to check for duplicates
[08:58] <alan_g> duflu: that makes sense. thanks.
[08:58] <duflu> alan_g: Also my comment #1 confirmed it
[09:00] <alan_g> I didn't find any open duplicates. I expect a new cause, not one of the earlier fixes.
[09:01] <duflu> Random segfaults on krillin might end up being in the graphics driver, but it's worth checking
[09:01] <duflu> I know krillin segfaults if you unload and reload the android platform. So it's not very stable
[09:02] <alan_g> Problem is my krillin bricked a couple of months back
[09:02] <duflu> If it becomes important I'll try manually reproducing it
[09:02] <duflu> Since I can cross compile again today
[09:04] <alan_g> I'll see if valgrind spots anything suspicious on desktop - wouldn't be the first time.
[09:46] <zzarr> hello!
[09:47] <zzarr> are there plans for Mali drivers?
[09:48] <zzarr> same old me, same old question
[09:56] <alan_g> like on N10 and krillin?
[09:58] <duflu> Nexus 4 uses Mali, with the Android backend. I think zzarr means something like a desktop/chromebook?
[10:02] <duflu> Oh, I own a chromebook with Mali graphics. That's interesting
[10:02] <duflu> Also interesting I prototyped/fixed the one Mir bug that was blocking that device from starting up yesterday
[10:03] <duflu> Although will refine it more, aiming for Mir 0.25
[10:05]  * duflu runs away
[10:36] <zzarr> I meant a Mir driver (without android) for Mali
[10:39] <alan_g> I'd *expect* that to work via Mir's mesa driver, not with something Mali specific. But duflu's the one with Mali hardware. (See above)
[10:41] <zzarr> sorry, alan_g, I misread what he wrote, that's interesting :D
[10:46] <alan_g> zzarr: does the mesa support work for (e.g.) an X11 stack?
[11:06] <zzarr> alan_g, I haven't tried in a while, but other people have gotten it to work as I understood it
[11:08] <alan_g> zzarr: in that case Mir should, in principle, be able to run using mesa.
[11:08] <zzarr> cool :)
[11:08] <zzarr> what drivers do I need?
[11:09] <alan_g> Whatever "other people" used
[11:09] <zzarr> (kernel-driver... that I know, but user space?)
[11:09] <zzarr> okey :)
[11:09] <zzarr> I will try later today :D
[11:11] <zzarr> 3 hour left of my workday, then me and my sister will go jogging and then food, so maybe 6 hours from now
[11:12] <alan_g> zzarr: if you do get X11 going try: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/miral/trunk/view/head:/building_and_using_miral.md
[11:12] <zzarr> I'll save that link :D
[11:14] <zzarr> I saved the document instead :)
[11:14] <zzarr> do you have any idea what Chromebook duflu have?
[11:15] <alan_g> Sorry, no
[11:15] <zzarr> do you know what vendor?
[11:16] <alan_g> Sorry, no
[11:16] <zzarr> or about when he bought it?
[11:16] <alan_g> Sorry, no
[11:16] <zzarr> I'll have to ask him when he's online again
[13:46] <alf_> Trevinho: We just experienced the google-mock+gcc-6 issue ourselves, thanks for the bug and fix
[13:47] <Trevinho> alf_: good :-)
[13:47] <Trevinho> alf_: we need someonre to upload that in ubuntu...
[13:47] <Trevinho> someone*
[13:47] <Trevinho> alf_: I've submitted also a debian bug
[13:50] <kdub> so if i understand, then once that's uploaded, we won't need a patch to mir or usc?
[14:01] <alf_> kdub: That's right
[14:01] <kdub> alf_, cool, thanks Trevinho
[14:05] <alf_> Trevinho: do you have any candidates for pushing this?
[14:15] <Trevinho> alf_: Laney should be uploading that
[14:20] <alf_> Trevinho: ack, thanks


[10:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[16:56] <lordievader> Good evening.
[16:58] <elfy> evening lordievader
[16:59] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you?
[16:59] <elfy> good thanks - no work till Tuesday \o/
[17:00] <lordievader> Nice, congratulations!
[17:00] <elfy> :)


 Oh... A lot of users are on holiday
 (Photo, 1024x768) https://i.imgur.com/0zmaETx.jpg
 @Wolfenprey, 🙈
 😈
[16:59] <teward> one of you all can probably answer this one... https://askubuntu.com/questions/989204/why-did-lubuntu-delayed-the-release-of-16-04-3-lts-from-august-september-to-the
[16:59] <teward> *hides*
[17:37] <wxl> konrad11901: talking about doing image testing on a regular basis, we'd LOVE the help. usually dailies only need a spot check, but when it comes to milestone testing (alpha 1 is coming soon) we need full coverage and as much of it as possible.
[17:52] <konrad11901> wxl: I'll do my best to help you with testing! Let me know when alpha 1 will come :)
[18:00] <wxl> i thought we had it in the topic. hey tsimonq2 when did you decide to do alpha 1? we have a new tester ( konrad11901 ) who wants in on the fun
 @wxl, Alpha 1 on the schedule is the first week in January but in my email to ubuntu-release I was like "yeaaaaaaah no, people are still gonna be on holiday" and proposed the second week in January
 Either way, I'm doing checklist tracking, so Lubuntu's in.
[18:31] <wxl> @tsimonq2 so when do you expect testing to start? stick it in the topic when you get it figured out
 @wxl, The weekend before, maybe? As soon as I get someone from the Release Team to ratify my release schedule change and sign up to do Nusakan I'll be happy to do things like that. :)


[15:11] <nigelb> czajkowski: I'm high with happiness! Found a local place that sells JD ;)
[15:19] <mhall119> what happened to the guy who would only drink a little wine in Budapest?
[15:21] <cjohnston> lol
[15:21] <cjohnston> +1
[15:23] <daker> Wine o.O


[15:00]  * stgraber waves
[15:00]  * bdmurray waves
[15:00] <mvo> hello
[15:02] <stgraber> #startmeeting
[15:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is stgraber.
[15:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:02] <jhunt_> o/
[15:02] <stgraber> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Lightning round
[15:02] <ev> hi
[15:03] <stgraber> doko: around?
[15:03] <stgraber> echo $(shuf -e bdmurray ev jhunt_ mvo stgraber)
[15:03] <doko> yes, but at linaro connect in a meeting
[15:03] <stgraber> bdmurray ev jhunt_ mvo stgraber
[15:04] <bdmurray> yeah first!
[15:04] <doko> my lightning round is just debconf last week, linaro connect this week
[15:04] <stgraber> doko: ok, thanks!
[15:04] <bdmurray> bug triage of grub2 regression- bugs that were moved from linux
[15:04] <bdmurray> update-manager bug triage of bugs with Stacktraces (not python tracebacks)
[15:04] <bdmurray> bug triage of ubiquity oneiric bug reports and grubinstaller failures
[15:04] <bdmurray> invalidation of more ubiquity squashfs error bug reports
[15:05] <bdmurray> cleanup of ubiquity problme with merge lists bug reports
[15:05] <bdmurray> bug triage of apt-xapian-index, oem-priority bug reports
[15:05] <bdmurray> adding bug watches to debian bugs while reviewing udd similar titles found via udd querying
[15:05] <bdmurray> udd query - debian-ubuntu-similar-bug-titles modifications to skip translations bugs
[15:05] <bdmurray> launchpadlib script package-fixed-find-similar improvements and adding it to ubuntu-qa-tools
[15:05] <bdmurray> wrote crichton function to tag ubiquity bug reports with the package version and release
[15:05] <bdmurray> wrote crichton function to find syslogs with tracebacks in them and modify ubiquity bug reports
[15:05] <bdmurray> branch fixing update-manager's disabling of deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and a string fix for bug 510581
[15:05] <bdmurray> well that was the wrong number
[15:05] <bdmurray> -- done --
[15:05] <ev> - Split libmap out of indicator-datetime to create libtimezonemap.
[15:05] <ev> - Added GI bindings to the above and reworked the timezone structures as
[15:05] <ev>   GObjects so that they get exported by GI.
[15:06] <ev> - cdimage fixes for Wubi.
[15:06] <ev> - Merged evfool's usb-creator branch for Unity integration.
[15:06] <ev> - Some integration work on the wireless page for Ubiquity.
[15:06] <ev> - Fixes around the Wubi first boot code.
[15:06] <ev> - Added image pruning and an .htaccess to the Wubi disk image builds.
[15:06] <ev> - Started looking into trimming the fat on Wubi, as it's grown by 0.9 MB:
[15:06] <ev>   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PP8fw2IWgH5oU8ytrXv6Fzsdu5afLrRcDm6-d6u7-T0/edit?hl=en_US
[15:06] <ev> - Fixes to the PyGI branch of Ubiquity.  Will be ready to go after some CSS
[15:06] <ev>   work, untangling the mainloop mess, and libtimezonemap gets into the
[15:06] <ev>   archive.
[15:06] <ev> TODO:
[15:06] <ev> - Wubi migration.
[15:06] <ev> - Cheese MIR.
[15:06] <jhunt_> Spent last week with Keybuk and travelling. Lots of juicy Upstart
[15:06] <jhunt_> discussions and coding. On holiday Monday. Yesterday + today spent
[15:06] <jhunt_> working on Upstart job logging feature (bug 328881).
[15:06] <jhunt_> EOT
[15:06] <mvo> software-center: work on exhibits functionatlity (paging dots, UI etc), discuss more flexible exhibits API with #isd, branch review/merges, fix webkitgtk window open/close, lots of tests added for the gtk3 code
[15:06] <mvo> a3: upgrade testing, fix file conffile issue #82023, command-not-found data update, ap-install-data update (not uploaded as the size was quite big)
[15:06] <mvo> app-install-data: work on improved extraction and reducing the size of the icon data (looks pretty good so far)
[15:06] <mvo> apt: work on 0.8.16 (ABI break), fixes two crashers in multiarch apt, fix python-apt test-suite failure, invalidate pkgcache if sources.list changes to catch updates in e.g. sources.list line ordering, merge another patch from  Jonathan Thomas to speed up the debcache, cleanup in the cdrom method
[15:07] <mvo> patch pilot!
[15:07] <mvo> aptdaemon: add reboot-required property
[15:07] <mvo> update-manager: debug/workaround issue with incomplete grub configs seen in the auto-upgrade-tester because of the transition from update-grub to /etc/kernel/postinst.d, merges, cleanup
[15:07] <mvo> EOF
[15:07] <stgraber> oh, already my turn :)
[15:07] <mvo> *lighting*
[15:07] <stgraber> - multipath testing last week, started to play with my SAN this week
[15:07] <mvo> ;)
[15:07] <stgraber> - implemented the DBUS filtering proxy for arkose: http://www.stgraber.org/2011/08/02/introducing-arkoses-protocol-aware-dbus-filtering-proxy/ (useful if you want to restrict or trace a software using DBUS)
[15:08] <stgraber> - done some more IPv6 testing and poked NM upstream to get Network Manager RFC compliant
[15:08] <stgraber> - fixed LTSP to boot on Oneiric again
[15:08] <stgraber> - patch pilot last Wednesday afternoon
[15:08] <mvo> eh, lightning even
[15:08] <stgraber> - worked on fixing Edubuntu and Ubuntu for alpha-3 (still doing so)
[15:08] <stgraber> - Next week at the LXC hackfest in Austin and the week after that in Vancouver for LinuxconNA
[15:08] <stgraber> (done)
[15:09] <mvo> dbus proxy \o/
[15:09] <stgraber> yep, I should have it integrated next week during the LXC/container hackfest. My goal is to put nice names on top of all these DBUS interfaces/paths
[15:09] <stgraber> so ideally gedit should show you:
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Use the Ubuntu Global menu
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Access gedit configuration
[15:10] <stgraber> just need to work on a set of basic profiles and put names on them
[15:10] <stgraber> [TOPIC] Oneiric bugs
[15:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Oneiric bugs
[15:10] <stgraber> bdmurray: anything?
[15:11] <bdmurray> yes there have been some showing up with the iso testing
[15:11] <bdmurray> bug 819106
[15:11] <bdmurray> that actually has a patch in it if someone could review it
[15:12] <mvo> I can have a look
[15:13] <bdmurray> mvo: thanks
[15:13] <bdmurray> stgraber: and bug 820372 looks like something for you
[15:13] <stgraber> bdmurray: this one is gnome-session's fault :)
[15:14] <bdmurray> okay
[15:14] <stgraber> bdmurray: I'll poke didrocks, I think he was the one who fixed it for Natty
[15:14] <stgraber> basically LTSP calls /etc/X11/Xsession which is supposed to start the default session
[15:14] <stgraber> which is currently gnome-session
[15:14] <stgraber> but starting gnome-session without --session=ubuntu gives you that error message
[15:14] <bdmurray> sounds good thanks
[15:14] <stgraber> (and that's obviously wrong)
[15:15] <bdmurray> thats it so far - still reviewing the iso-testing bugs
[15:15] <stgraber> thanks
[15:15] <stgraber> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[15:15] <mvo> the code in the patch looks fine, but I really would like to understand whats going on there, before applying it, it smeels a bit like a workaround
[15:16] <mvo> software-center was on OMGubuntu
[15:16] <stgraber> again? :)
[15:16] <bdmurray> mvo:  it is the debian bug has more info
[15:16] <mvo> stgraber: well, two days ago :)
[15:16] <bdmurray> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636173
[15:16] <mvo> or so
[15:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636173
[15:16] <mvo> thanks bdmurray
[15:18]  * stgraber refreshes his copy of the software-center code
[15:18] <mvo> stgraber:  check the ./software-center-gtk3 if you want to see the fancy new stuff
[15:19] <stgraber> mvo: did you port my weblive stuff to the gtk3 version yet? or should I do that?
[15:19] <mvo> stgraber: that should work, but I did not test it much
[15:19]  * mvo actually double checks
[15:20] <mvo> works for me
[15:20] <stgraber> ok, it starts but doesn't give you progress information when used with x2go
[15:21] <stgraber> so seems like the events sent by the backend are lost somewhere. I'll have a look later.
[15:21] <stgraber> anything else?
[15:21] <mvo> oh, thats possible
[15:21] <mvo> the progress I have not checked
[15:22] <stgraber> when you disconnect, the button also remains greyed out, so it doesn't even get the DISCONNECTED event from the backend
[15:22] <mvo> I get some lambda error here, maybe that is releated
[15:22] <stgraber> should be easy enough to fix at least
[15:22] <mvo> yeah
[15:23] <stgraber> ok, I guess that's it then
[15:23] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[15:23] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:23.
[15:23] <ev> thanks
[15:23] <stgraber> everyone can get back to fixing whatever they need fixing for alpha-3 :)
[17:02]  * Ursinha looks around
[17:04]  * Ursinha wonders if her calendar is mistaken
[17:04] <bdmurray> I thought it was now too
[17:05] <Ursinha> hggdh: hi :) are we missing something or the QA meeting was supposed to happen around.. now?
[17:06] <jibel> who is chairing today ?
[17:08] <Ursinha> jibel: previous logs say "chair auto-selection: jibel"
[17:08] <Ursinha> :)
[17:09] <jibel> haha, easy I was not there and I chaired twice previously.
[17:09] <jibel> anyway, do we have the quorum
[17:09] <jibel> hggdh, patrickmw pedro_ bdmurray charlie-tca Ursinha around ?
[17:10] <Ursinha> I suppose :)
[17:10] <bdmurray> o/
[17:10] <Ursinha> o/
[17:10] <hggdh> ~o~
[17:10] <Ursinha> lol
[17:10]  * charlie-tca waves
[17:10] <pedro_> \o/
[17:10] <jibel> patrickmw, PATRICKMW !
[17:11] <patrickmw> jibel: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[17:11] <jibel> heh
[17:11] <jibel> Lets go
[17:11] <jibel> #startmeeting
[17:11] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:11. The chair is jibel.
[17:11] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:11]  * hggdh begs pardon, in the middle of a blasted RAID1 test
[17:11] <jibel> [TOPIC] Previous Actions (all)
[17:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Previous Actions (all)
[17:12] <jibel> any action anyone ?
[17:12] <hggdh> none here
[17:12] <jibel> ok thanks hggdh
[17:12] <charlie-tca> I don't remember any
[17:13] <jibel> [TOPIC] Community testing
[17:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Community testing
[17:13] <jibel> we are currently testing Oneiric alpha3
[17:13] <jibel> new images are currently being rebuilt
[17:14] <jibel> fresh Ubuntu DVDs and desktop images are available but there is a failure with the installer
[17:14] <jibel> bug 802485
[17:14] <jibel> the engineering team is investigating
[17:14] <jibel> bug 820485
[17:14] <jibel> hm better
[17:14]  * charlie-tca nods
[17:15] <jibel> so we will need a lot of testing to get the images on time for the release tomorrow.
[17:15] <jibel> any help is welcome
[17:16] <jibel> that's all from me
[17:16] <jibel> any question ?
[17:16] <hggdh> \o
[17:16] <jibel> hggdh, what is your question ?
[17:16] <jibel> or comment
[17:16] <hggdh> should we expect a respin?
[17:17] <jibel> hggdh, yes.
[17:17] <jibel> at least desktop images
[17:17] <hggdh> generic, or just desktop (specifically, I am worried about the server :-)
[17:17] <hggdh> oh
[17:17]  * hggdh is too slow to type
[17:18] <hggdh> thank you jibel
[17:18] <jibel> did you identify something that would require a respin of server images ?
[17:18] <bdmurray> hggdh: you noob
[17:18] <hggdh> :-)
[17:18] <jibel> hggdh, ^ did you see my question or are you still typing ;-)
[17:18] <bdmurray> lol
[17:19] <hggdh> jibel: (still typing)
[17:19] <jibel> :)
[17:19] <hggdh> jibel: nothing seen so far, going through all tests now
[17:20] <jibel> oh I forgot.
[17:20] <jibel> for A3 there is a new candidate available for testing: Lubuntu
[17:20] <jibel> the lubuntu team will be happy if you can help them testing their images
[17:21] <jibel> and we removed eucalyptus from the test plan
[17:21] <jibel> ..
[17:21] <jibel> [TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing patrickmw
[17:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  Automated/Systems Testing patrickmw
[17:22] <patrickmw> hello
[17:22] <patrickmw> = Kernel SRU =
[17:22] <patrickmw> * Lucid -updates and -proposed running ltp tests with the correct update workflow and cd images
[17:22] <patrickmw> = QA Lab =
[17:22] <patrickmw> * sigh
[17:22] <patrickmw> * another machine is out of service - albali
[17:22] <patrickmw> * new new alderbaran is awaiting an RT to be completed in order to finish setup for testing
[17:22] <patrickmw> * currently we only have 1 server running all tests - Wazn aka Old Faithful
[17:22] <patrickmw> * Jenkins backup script in progress
[17:22] <patrickmw> = Public Jenkins =
[17:22] <patrickmw> * update from IS - should be this week!
[17:22] <patrickmw> = Status Blog =
[17:22] <patrickmw> * http://ubuntuqa.wordpress.com/  - note may not be permanent location
[17:22] <patrickmw> questions?
[17:22] <patrickmw> ..
[17:23] <jibel> o/
[17:23] <patrickmw> yo
[17:23] <jibel> not a question but an advertisement
[17:24] <jibel> the automated framework used by the QA team for kernel and image testing is there https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-server-iso-testing
[17:25] <jibel> If you're interested in contributing to testing automation you can start here and provide new tests or improve the framework.
[17:25] <jibel> don't hesitate to ping us on #ubuntu-testing or the qa mailing list if you need help with this.
[17:26] <jibel> ..
[17:26]  * hggdh notes that the name -- ubuntu-*server*-iso-testing is misleading: this has *ALL* tests , server or not
[17:26] <hggdh> so please help :-)
[17:27] <jibel> moving on
[17:27] <jibel> [TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status bdmurray pedro_ Ursinha
[17:27] <MootBot> New Topic:  Engineering Team Bug Status bdmurray pedro_ Ursinha
[17:27] <Ursinha> I've been working in two things:
[17:27] <Ursinha> - triaging bugs
[17:28] <Ursinha> - concentrating all ubuntu-server reports in status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/
[17:28] <Ursinha> triage report and sru report are being generated every 10/30 minutes
[17:28] <Ursinha> also, I'm working on graphs to measure how many bugs we file/close per cycle
[17:29] <Ursinha> can also be found there
[17:29] <Ursinha> ..
[17:29] <bdmurray> I've been looking at update-manager bug reports a fair bit and introducing some auto triage
[17:30] <bdmurray> well to a degree - I'm autotagging bug reports with the version of ubiquity and also the release of Ubuntu that version existed in
[17:30] <bdmurray> Additionally, I'm currently search log files for Tracebacks in them and tagging those bugs installer-crash and adding the traceback to the bug as a comment
[17:31] <bdmurray> From there hopefully I can do some duplicate consolidation
[17:31] <Ursinha> (cool!)
[17:31] <bdmurray> adding bug watches to debian bugs while reviewing udd similar titles found via udd querying
[17:31] <bdmurray> udd query - debian-ubuntu-similar-bug-titles modifications to skip translations bugs
[17:31] <bdmurray> launchpadlib script package-fixed-find-similar improvements and adding it to ubuntu-qa-tools
[17:31] <bdmurray> branch fixing update-manager's disabling of deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:31] <bdmurray> ..
[17:31] <pedro_> Hello, besides normal bug triage, I wrote a few apport bug pattterns for g-s-d bug 804896, bug 804472 and bug 804221 zeitgeist bug 807950 metacity bug 797078 gnome-terminal 810681 nautilus bug 804891 and totem bug 816740 and an apport hook for lightdm
[17:32] <bdmurray> hooray for bug patterns!
[17:32] <pedro_> (sorry for the flood)
[17:32] <Ursinha> :)
[17:32] <pedro_> and a PS: i won't be around next week for the meeting or most of it since i'll be at the desktop summit
[17:33] <Ursinha> pedro_: I have a branch to propose merging to the code you pushed to ubuntu-defect-analysts
[17:33] <pedro_> Ursinha, cool! lets work on that after the meeting :-)
[17:34] <pedro_> ..
[17:34] <jibel> any question ?
[17:35] <jibel> [TOPIC] Other topics
[17:35] <MootBot> New Topic:  Other topics
[17:35] <jibel> any other topic you'd like to discuss today ?
[17:38] <jibel> [TOPIC] Chair selection
[17:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  Chair selection
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Well, I am feeling left out. I guess I can volunteer for it
[17:38] <jibel> $ shuf -e hggdh, patrickmw pedro_ bdmurray charlie-tca Ursinha|head -1
[17:38] <jibel> bdmurray
[17:38] <Ursinha> hahaha
[17:38] <jibel> bdmurray, you lucky
[17:38] <hggdh> hey I like that
[17:39] <pedro_> lol
[17:39] <pedro_> we should do that every week
[17:39] <jibel> [ACTION] charlie-tca to chair next meeting
[17:39] <MootBot> ACTION received:  charlie-tca to chair next meeting
[17:40] <jibel> (because he volunteered)
[17:40] <charlie-tca> I have to remember that shuffle thing, though
[17:41] <jibel> #endmeeting
[17:41] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:41.
[17:41] <Ursinha> gotta love irc logs for that :)
[17:41] <charlie-tca> That's pretty neat
[17:41] <jibel> thanks all
[17:41] <pedro_> jibel, thanks for chairing!
[17:41] <charlie-tca> Thanks, jibel
[17:41] <Ursinha> thanks all :)


[01:17] <zkriesse> dutchie: ping
[03:47] <trinikrono> hey has anyone noticed that the wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams has gone missing?
[03:51] <Flannel> trinikrono: That page /seems/ to have been created on the third (as spam) and deleted the next day.
[03:52] <trinikrono> so are they going to make it back, it looked important lol
[20:31] <ubuntujenkins> is help.ubuntu.com updated more than once a cycle?
[20:32] <ubuntujenkins> if anyone knows please ping me


[14:08] <doko> jdstrand, cyphermox, jamespage, cpaelzer: MIR meeting?
[14:10]  * jdstrand is here
[14:12] <doko> yaml-cpp has a pending security review
[14:13] <cyphermox> yep
[14:13] <cpaelzer> arr
[14:13] <cpaelzer> here I am
[14:13] <doko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cpdb-libs/+bug/1747759 -> I'll need to follow-up
[14:17] <cpaelzer> Checking new MIRs
[14:17] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/placement/+bug/1805691
[14:17] <cpaelzer> seems to have passed new queue, and now shows up
[14:18] <cpaelzer> is that on jamespage or anyone else there still, or what would be the next step there
[14:18] <cpaelzer> coreycb: FYI ^^
[14:18] <cpaelzer> seems to be nova (already in main) split out
[14:18] <cpaelzer> how are such cases usually handled?
[14:19] <doko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/+bug/1750069
[14:19] <doko> how is this handled by security, jdstrand?
[14:19] <coreycb> cpaelzer: yes that's the case. placement has been split from nova and seeded.
[14:22] <doko> jdstrand: ^^^?
[14:27] <cpaelzer> coreycb: old nova had only nova-placement-api
[14:27] <cpaelzer> how does that relate dto the full placement package that appears now?
[14:28] <coreycb> cpaelzer: that's it, the API has moved out of tree. i've not done a full diff on the code but should. also I don't think the nova code has been dropped yet.
[14:28] <coreycb> cpaelzer: but it's still a dev release so they are testing upstream.
[14:29] <cpaelzer> 2:19.0.0~b1~git2018120609.c9dca64fa6-0ubuntu1 the latest nova at least has it still
[14:29] <cpaelzer> e.g. ./nova/conf/placement.py ~==  ./placement/conf/placement.py
[14:30] <cpaelzer> coreycb: I haven't checked the files build, but wouldn't that need a massive set of breaks/replaces?
[14:30] <cpaelzer> to avoid conflicts on upgrades?
[14:32] <cpaelzer> hmm
[14:32] <cpaelzer> it seems it is all namespaced
[14:32] <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/400344356/buildlog_ubuntu-disco-amd64.placement_0.0.1~git2018112616.3ccbacfc-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:32] <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/400622842/buildlog_ubuntu-disco-amd64.nova_2%3A19.0.0~b1~git2018120609.c9dca64fa6-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[14:32] <coreycb> cpaelzer: yes but I've not added breaks/replaces since it hasn't been removed from nova. wasn't sure how to handle the transition period.
[14:32] <cpaelzer> nova has the same bits still it seems, but with nova-* in front of it
[14:33] <cpaelzer> coreycb: no-duplication is usually a MIR rule
[14:33] <cpaelzer> coreycb: when will that be moved/removed from nova?
[14:33] <coreycb> cpaelzer: I can double check with upstream to see what the removal plans are
[14:33] <cpaelzer> yeah, please update that on the bug once known
[14:33] <cpaelzer> and that can give jdstrand and folks some time to respond on how such broken out code that was rviewed before would be handled security-wise
[14:35] <jdstrand> doko: sorry, got pulled aside
[14:35]  * jdstrand reads
[14:36] <cpaelzer> coreycb: I updated the bug
[14:36] <jdstrand> yaml-cpp is not in our trello lane
[14:36]  * jdstrand adds it
[14:36] <cpaelzer> jdstrand: also upadted the bug for you as I assumed you were unavailable
[14:38] <cpaelzer> "upadted" is the new "updated" btw
[14:40] <jdstrand> doko: wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/+bug/1750069, what is the question? sarnold commented in it yesterday
[14:41] <doko> jdstrand: so that's up to -desktop?
[14:41] <jdstrand> doko: yeah
[14:41] <doko> ok
[14:42] <jdstrand> doko: I commented in the bug
[14:43] <jdstrand> cpaelzer: as for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/placement/+bug/1805691, normally we say something along the lines of "this was already supported before it was split out, so no need redoing a security review". there is only the standard packaging checks for the MIR imho
[14:43] <cpaelzer> ok thanks jdstrand
[14:44]  * jdstrand comments
[14:44] <cpaelzer> thanks
[14:44] <didrocks> (joined, but in desktop team meeting)
[14:44] <jdstrand> cpaelzer: it is good to raise it to us though
[14:44] <cpaelzer> so I think once coreycb is back with how this will be de-duplcated it might be approved
[14:44] <cpaelzer> I didn#t see other big show stoppers
[14:52] <doko> ok, nothing, should we finish?
[14:53] <doko> that took way too long
[14:54] <didrocks> nothing from me, I only have vulkan-loader left on my list, dlna stack is dealt with
[14:55] <cpaelzer> nothing new to me, except still being afraid of the mailman3 dependency list
[15:00] <cpaelzer> doko: I guess the silence is a yes, I guess we can consider todays meeting done
[15:00]  * cpaelzer realizes he guesses too much
[15:01] <didrocks> ;)
[15:04] <doko> ok, done


[04:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:19] <silv3r_m00n> i installed kubuntu latest, and inside dolphin when i right click a folder, the compress option is missing
[04:19] <silv3r_m00n> how do i get it back ?
[05:23] <calcmandan> newly obtained toshiba sattelite. on first boot i launched into kubuntu 15.10 live flash drive. Went through the process of installing kubuntu. It was successful, and upon reboot the system alerted to no operating system installed. Figuring grub didn't install properly, I repeated the install, this time enabling LVM. same thing, no OS installed. This time, figuring it was an issue with the partitions I manually began removing partitions in partition
[05:23] <calcmandan> manager while booted on live. there's one large partition sitting on the drive that I can neither remove or resize. I'm at a loss of what to do at this point.
[09:02] <skreech> thrik: ls it a UEFI setup?
[09:48] <Guest18670> hi
[09:53] <aotea> Is Plasma 5 available for 14.04 LTS?
[09:57] <lordievader> aotea: No, and it is very unlikely it will ever be.
[09:57] <lordievader> You need 15.10 for Plasma5.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <Smurphy> Morning ...
[12:27] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Smurphy
[12:43] <mi> hello. is anybody from Romania Here?
[12:44] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: is from Romania, I think.
[16:03] <aotea> My Kubuntu 15.10 lacks Memtest in Grub menu. I don't have a folder /boot/grub/grub.d. How can I get and run a Memtest=
[17:23] <Graf_Westerholt> I upgraded to Kubuntu 15.10 and now it seems KWallet has old passwords. There are not the current passwords.
[17:27] <BluesKaj> sorry Graf_Westerholt , I can't be bothered with Kwallet, so i can't help
[18:23] <Graf_Westerholt> Is the comic widget broken?
[18:43] <toadvine> any idea what package would provide kf5kipiconfig.cmake? I'd have guessed libkipi-dev, but after installing that I'm still getting an error that it isn't there when I try to build gwenview
[18:44] <toadvine> I don't see any other packages that look very likely, and I'd prefer to not shotgun-install every kde dev package if I can avoid it
[18:56] <toadvine> nevermind, looks like it's supposed to be in that package but is missing due to debian bug 803450 upstream
[21:19] <aotea> Is Memtest included in the 15.10 USB installer? And how can I get it to work on an UEFI bios
[21:24] <Taggnostr> I'm trying to download some photos from a memory card -- with previous versions of kubuntu when I entered the memory card it gave me options like "download photos with gwenview/digikam" but now I only see "open with file manager".  From gwenview I also can't find any way to download them.  How can I download them?
[21:27] <aotea> Taggnostr, Can't drag and drop them from Dolphin?
[21:29] <Taggnostr> the camera makes a DCIM dir with several subdirs, and the photos are all scattered through those dirs.  I used both digikam and gwenview in the past to automatically import/rotate them from all these dirs, but now I can't find a way to do it with gwenview
[21:30] <Taggnostr> digikam should still be able to do it, so if I can't find a solution I guess I'll reinstall it
[21:42] <Taggnostr> ok, I'm doing it with digikam and it seems to work fine
[21:49] <Dragnslcr> Taggnostr- it may be a feature that hasn't been implemented in the new version of Gwenview. A lot of the KF5 versions of applications are still missing some features.
[21:49] <Taggnostr> ok
[22:18] <jnix> Hello folks!  Not sure how to go about troubleshooting this in an Ubuntu system,  i'm a fedora user primarily
[22:21] <aotea> jnix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen maybe?
[22:22] <jnix> hey this might be perfect :)
[22:22] <jnix> I ended up having to nuke .kde and .config and reboot
[22:22] <jnix> and i had just finished frickin configuring/customizing my desktop too :(
[22:25] <jnix> i'm liking plasma 5 but am sort of missing kde3.5 right now.....:)
[22:25] <aotea> Did you not just "cp .kde .kde_backup" or something?
[22:26] <jnix> doh, no i nuked it
[23:29] <aotea> My grub.cfg is missing menu option for Memtest, and I tried doing "chmod +x" to memtest in etc/grub.d/ and updating grub. Still missing that menu option. How do I get that option in Grub?


[00:00] <popey> nvm
[00:00] <johnc4510> popey: again...sorry
[00:01] <popey> no worries
[00:01] <akgraner> popey, I added it to my list as well
[00:01] <akgraner> johnc4510, should be just add an Ubuntu Podcast section on there?
[00:02] <akgraner> and just have links and a blurb about them as a standard section?
[00:02] <johnc4510> well, it goes in the ION section
[00:03] <johnc4510> maybe a reminder in that section commented out ## would do??
[00:09] <akgraner> nhandler, that is what you were talking about right?
[00:09] <nhandler> Yeah
[00:10] <johnc4510> something like: ## don't forget the uk-podcast and then the link
[00:14] <popey> if there's anything we can do to help, just let me know
[00:14] <johnc4510> thx
[00:14] <popey> if thats just a case of pasting the link here, we can easily do that
[00:16] <johnc4510> popey: no, i usually give the main bullet points as well
[00:17] <johnc4510> hmmm, can't get rhythmbox on the beta to recognize my music folder


[02:01] <pantato> IRC is so dead
[03:45] <tsimonq2> pantato: then don't use it
[04:55] <graters> Prof. Tony Hall suspended without pay at University of Lethbridge (10/5/16)
[04:55] <graters> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JKdO1zW24
[04:57] <graters> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JKdO1zW24 (Prof. Tony Hall suspended without pay at University of Lethbridge (10/5/16))
[04:58] <graters> Tenured prof losing his position for controversial views. Major news.
[05:03] <graters> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JKdO1zW24 (Prof. Tony Hall suspended without pay at University of Lethbridge (10/5/16))
[05:11] <pantato> tsimonq2: thanks
[05:11] <girlinrogue> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JKdO1zW24 (Prof. Tony Hall suspended without pay at University of Lethbridge (10/5/16))
[05:12] <pantato> I'm trying to change the color of my panel to black, and my theme is nightmare,
[05:12] <girlinrogue> Defend academic freedom. FREE PROFESSOR ANTHONY HALL.
[05:12] <pantato> and I tried the "system theme" setting for panel appearance and it's silver. Then I try custom color (with opacity) and no matter what color I choose it just is clear
[05:22] <pantato> anyone know?
[05:41] <pantato> nvm, got it
[11:19] <pantato> I'm having an issue whenever I trigger my microphone, like if I test it in an app or if I trigger it in my game, my computer lags for a moment. I'm thinking about installnig the realtek drivers for it here:
[11:19] <pantato> http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[11:19] <pantato> should I screw with that?
[11:19] <pantato> but I'm afraid of screwing things up
[12:07] <pantato> I'm having an issue where if I have pulseaudio installed, i experience lag when i trigger my microphone or if I adjust my audio settings and it's really annoying. But if I have pulseaudio removed and i'm using ALSA, I cannot set my USB Webcam microphone as my default microphone device and as a result it does not work in many different programs. Anyone know which would be easier to solve? The ALSA issue or the pulsea
[14:23] <lejocelyn> hi guys, I just installed Lubuntu 16.04 LTS on a computer but I have a weird issue (Also, the sound doesn't come out yet). The icons aren't displayed
[14:26] <lejocelyn> I'd like the icons's back :(
[16:14] <LuMint> lejocelyn: icons where
[16:16] <LuMint> lejocelyn: right click on the desktop, desktop settings, advanced, use desktop as a folder
[18:30] <anotheryou__> Hi. The indicator applet pannel shows newly launched things multiple times
[18:30] <anotheryou__> skype appeared 4 times, Fcitx more than 10 times...
[18:30] <anotheryou__> any Ideas what'? going on?
[20:51] <Capum4321> hell, how kdeconnect affects a lxde distro like lubuntu?
[20:52] <Capum4321> ops
[20:52] <Capum4321> hello


[04:45] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:20] <Wheezy_WW444> hello
[05:32] <Wheezy_WW444> *crickets
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !wayland
[07:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:36] <ducasse> good morning, all
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> hey morning ducasse lordievader
[07:59] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje ducasse
[07:59] <lordievader> How are you all?
[08:00] <ducasse> hi lordievader - fine here, thanks, how about you?
[08:04] <lordievader> Doing good
[08:09] <ducasse> got your coffee this morning? :)
[08:15] <lordievader> Yes :D
[08:22] <ducasse> goodie :)
[08:23] <ducasse> i'm about to move the xbian root fs on my rpi to a usb stick, will hopefully make the microsd card last a bit longer
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> cool
[08:25] <ducasse> the sd cards tend to die pretty rapidly, in my experience...
[08:26] <lordievader> Depends on how much you write to it, right?
[08:27] <lordievader> Thought my Pi has been running of off an sd-card for years.
[08:27] <ducasse> i'm probably just unlucky :)
[08:30] <lordievader> Yeah, or mine is completely broken and I haven't noticed yet 😋
[08:31] <ducasse> :)
[11:37] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:21] <jink> 'sup pauljw.
[12:22] <pauljw> hi jink, not much here.  how are you today?
[12:27] <jink> Fine, mostly. :D
[12:27] <jink> Was trying to figure out how the hell spring-security works, when you need a custom configuration, but I think I got it. ^__^
[12:28] <pauljw> :)
[12:38] <lordievader> Hey, pauljw
[12:38] <pauljw> hi lordievader :)
[12:40] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[12:47] <pauljw> doing good, thx.  you?
[12:50] <lordievader> Doing good here.
[12:51] <lordievader> Noticed that cron isn't running properly on all my machines, fixing that now.
[16:18] <nicomachus> I've never seen ncmpcpp do this: https://i.imgur.com/MfxxlLC.png
[16:19] <nicomachus> I was wondering why the music stopped.
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:40] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[17:40] <EriC^^> what's up? how was your day?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> good, finished work & dinner
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> now irc time :p
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> how was yours EriC^^
[17:41] <EriC^^> cool :D
[17:41] <EriC^^> not bad did some stuff here and there and chilled
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> nice
[17:41] <EriC^^> in the mood for some irc'ing
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> chillday is always nice
[17:42] <EriC^^> yup
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> nacc: your friend gopal in tha house lol
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> run!
[18:33] <nacc> sigh
[18:50] <hggdh> so now we see what gopal does
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> we tryed to help him over and over hggdh
[18:51] <nacc> yeah
[18:51] <daftykins> something amusing occur? :)
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> keeps comming back with same issue
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: user with battery drain issue
[18:52] <daftykins> ah that one
[18:52] <daftykins> even i've heard of this one :D
[18:52] <hggdh> yes, he pops in a channel, and asks if the bug is fixed a few times per day
[18:53] <hggdh> it is starting to bother me
[18:57] <daftykins> is it new hardware? has it actually been confirmed as a bug?
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: <gopal> suport for amd r5 m430
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> think thats what he have
[18:59] <daftykins> hrmm, couple of years old then
[19:12] <TJ-> It's upstream https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198665
[19:12] <TJ-> But I strongly suspect it's a HP firmware issue
[19:13] <daftykins> oh when off, funky
[19:14] <daftykins> TJ-: did you coax your bluetooth back in the end? :) i thought you'd quit to chase it with a reboot!
[19:14] <daftykins> (some nights ago now, admittedly)
[19:15] <TJ-> daftykins: Yes, reboot was the only solution. Looks like the powertop calibration power adjustments caused the PCI USB hub device to get in an inconsistent state. Probably a bug in the uhci driver but I couldn't be bothered with tracking down yet another bug
[19:16] <daftykins> given how old that powertop is, perhaps it's just no longer viable
[19:16] <TJ-> I reset and rescan-ed the PCI device which usually 'reboots' the device but in this case I think it was stuck asleep
[19:16] <TJ-> Nothing to do with powertop
[19:16] <daftykins> no? i thought the idea was running it told it to turn off
[19:16] <TJ-> All powertop does is "echo 1 > /sys/devices/..../power/control
[19:17] <TJ-> or similar
[19:17] <TJ-> I assume the device was put into deep sleep and couldn't be brought out of it by the driver, which suggests driver and chipset weren't on the same page so to speak


[10:01] <topyli> IRCC meeting now? or is my calendar confused?
[10:02] <tsimpson> 1 hour
[10:02] <topyli> ah ok
[10:16] <StevenR> tsimpson: the fridge calendar suggests it's now
[10:17] <tsimpson> it's wrong, 11:00 UTC is the meeting
[11:02] <topyli> ok, i suppose it's now time for the IRCC meeting
[11:02] <topyli> my network is a bit flakey, but if i disappear it won't be worse than a minute or so
[11:04] <LjL> i am here! are you happy?
[11:04] <topyli> yes!
[11:05] <topyli> i would prefer if the actual IRCC were here too, but this isn't bad as it is :)
[11:06] <topyli> jussi: elky tsimpson? i see nhandler is away
[11:08] <topyli> alright. please ping me if you get around
[11:08] <LjL> topyli: appoint yourself dictator for this meeting and proceed
[11:11] <topyli> hmm sounds like a plan. who votes against? :)
[11:12] <LjL> well i have to vote against, it's my nature
[11:12] <topyli> oh yeah, shouldn't have given you the chance
[11:19] <LjL> topyli: what do you think about pointing out in the op application documents that if you've been banned "recently" (for some definition of recent), the chances of being an op are low, unless the council decides to make an exception?
[11:21] <topyli> LjL: i'm not sure, it's one of those things that we can either document or just rely on the so-called 'common sense'
[11:21] <topyli> i'm not particularly fond of documenting and bureaucratizing stuff, even though i often come off as sounding otherwise
[11:25] <topyli> also, we don't currently suffer from huge amounts of ridiculous or malicious op applicants. there are a few, but it's not a big job to weed them out
[11:27] <topyli> if you want, you can put it on agenda of course, for second opinions
[11:57] <jussi> bah, my google says meeting is now?
[11:58] <jussi> topyli: ?
[12:04] <LjL> topyli: well, i'm just thinking that in this case it might be a facilitation rather than a bureaucratic hindrance, so that people don't waste their time applying when they realistically have no chance
[12:05] <ikonia> it's my fault - I was moaning about this
[12:06] <ikonia> I just wish we'd use a little more reasonable approach, eg: the user python wanted to apply - it is pointless to make him go through the application process as he's not grasped any of the nature of the hcannels
[12:06] <ikonia> rather than give him that feedback, we just point him to blindly apply and sit in no-mans land for 6 months
[12:06] <ikonia> I'd just like to see a little less pointing at procedure, and actually use common sense
[12:07] <ikonia> it's my fault this has re-appeared,


[00:16] <kenvandine> tyhicks, not before ota-13
[00:16] <kenvandine> oh
[00:16] <kenvandine> actually yes before ota-13
[00:17] <kenvandine> we need the pasteboard in ota-13
[00:17] <kenvandine> so at a minimum we need the pasteboard changes
[01:58] <murph_ubuntu> I'm install rc-proposed on my Nexus 7.  Wondering now, while it's downloading, if that's a mistake.
[02:00] <nhaines> You can always reflash to stable or Android.
[02:27] <murph_ubuntu> Ah, I'm going to roll with it, seems to be booting.
[02:27] <murph_ubuntu> HEading out, I may stop by later.
[07:40] <Mirv> mardy: oh! after waiting for only 3 days the signon build got cancelled so that there is also a log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/280449084/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.signon_8.58+16.04.20151106-0ubuntu2+t1~~testrebuild1~~testrebuild1~1~x2_CANCELLING.txt.gz
[07:42] <Mirv> mardy: anyway, I'm not sure enough if to +1 the codereview commit before at least those tests would provably pass and not hang (a remaining process causes the build to not finish)
[07:54] <kaisoz> hi
[08:02] <mardy> Mirv: thanks, I don't see any obvious error, I'll try to run the tests locally to see if I can reproduce the issue
[08:13] <Mirv> it looks like in the log that dbus both times out and apparently also still leaves a process hanging since the build doesn't get finished
[09:25] <duflu> Anyone? (Saviq :) Should we target OTA-13 for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1613258
[09:25] <duflu> Admittedly it's probably an Intel-only issue
[09:26] <Saviq> duflu, also, IIUC, a yakkety issue? so not OTA-bound?
[09:26] <duflu> Saviq: Sounds like a good excuse
[09:26] <duflu> I vote for that
[09:27] <Saviq> should be fixed for yakkety for sure, just doesn't sound like a OTA thing
[09:27] <duflu> Saviq: Although per kgunn's request desktop issues get tagged in the system image project too. So you're saying no milestones?
[09:27] <Saviq> duflu, yeah we probably need a new milestone for yakkety things in there
[09:28] <duflu> Saviq: Actually I've been thinking maybe "OTA" is a series name
[09:28] <duflu> Something like that
[09:28] <duflu> And yakkety is a different series
[09:28] <Saviq> OTA is whatever ends up on the stable channel on system-image
[09:28] <Saviq> so vivid still
[09:29] <duflu> Saviq: I mean for project management. That project needs better management/design
[09:29] <Saviq> +1
[09:29] <duflu> Oh we've been here before
[09:29] <duflu> Gotta run on to a hangout now
[09:31] <duflu> Saviq: Maybe put it in 13 but lower priority on that project
[09:31] <duflu> It needs to have a milestone if the project has them
[09:32] <Saviq> duflu, I'll talk to Pat later today to add a yakkety/16.10 milestone in there and will set that
[09:40] <jgdx> seb128, hey, was gpg agent dropped from gnome-keyring for yakkety?
[10:21] <seb128> jgdx, unsure, check with Laney he knows better, I think gnome-keyring uses the gnupg agent nowadays
[10:23] <jgdx> seb128, okay, thanks.
[10:23] <morgan_> Hi
[10:24] <morgan_> Where is the chanel to speak to ubuntu touch developpers ?
[10:28] <Laney> jgdx: I think it stopped trying to be a GPG agent before 3.18 even
[10:29] <jgdx> Laney, the symptom was that gpg signage failed even when gpg-agent was running. gpg2 signage works just fine (uses unlocked keys)
[10:29] <Laney> What is $GPG_AGENT_INFO?
[10:29] <jgdx> empty
[10:30] <Laney> make Trevinho land the unity7 systemd user job
[10:30] <jgdx> Anyway, I'm happy to have all things use gpg2 instead. bzr is the most critical one, and that was a trivial config change
[10:30] <Laney> it's racy shit as it is currently
[10:44] <kaisoz> hi there
[10:48] <Mirv> was there someone who would like to test / could test the Device Input Info functionality in qtsystems? the patch set 43 (!) was finally merged upstream and https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-038/+packages has the updated packages for vivid/xenial/yakkety (bundled with another patch that switches screensaver blanking prevention to the upstream version)
[10:49] <Mirv> that should now be landing alone as I just heard UITK support does not need to land at the same time, but real life use testing would be very useful before landing a new feature/API..
[11:09] <Mirv> Saviq: ^ do you want to experiment with switching to the upstream API or will you contiunue to use your own as unity8 is unconfined anyway?
[11:10] <Saviq> Mirv, we probably will switch, assuming it gives us all the needed info, but not a high prio ;)
[11:10] <Saviq> mzanetti, FYI ↑
[11:10] <mzanetti> in a hangout atm
[11:10] <Mirv> ok
[11:15] <popey> morgan_: here
[11:20] <kaisoz> Utouch still uses upstart right?
[11:23] <k1l> kaisoz: iirc yes
[11:26] <kaisoz> yes I just checked
[11:26] <kaisoz> thx!
[11:50] <mardy> Mirv: the qtbase in yakkety-proposed does not include my dbus patch, does it?
[12:12] <Mirv> mardy: no, but if you use xenial with silo 11 it has it
[12:19] <morgan_> Someone know how work the predictive keyboard ?
[12:19] <morgan_> I would like to see if I can help to improve it :-)
[12:21] <mardy> morgan_: I don't know the details, but there is a word prediction engine, and it bases its predictions on a text file
[12:21] <ogra> you mean auto-correcting and word suggestions ?
[12:21] <mardy> morgan_: let me find it...
[12:21] <morgan_> yep
[12:21] <mardy> Mirv: is there anything for yakkety?
[12:22] <morgan_> Yes, it use a text, but for my langage the text is not appropriate at all (and worst, there is error on it)
[12:22] <morgan_> So I wonder how word suggestion work, is it the frequences of a word ?
[12:23] <mardy> morgan_: these are the data files: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-keyboard/trunk/files/head:/plugins/
[12:23] <mardy> morgan_: I don't know, but I see that it also takes your input into consideration; that is, it gets better the more you use it
[12:23] <morgan_> mardy, Yes, for french it's : https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-keyboard/trunk/view/head:/plugins/fr/src/les_trois_mousquetaires.txt
[12:23] <mardy> morgan_: what language are you interested in?
[12:23] <morgan_> but it contains error on it
[12:25] <morgan_> Also, another main issue : the word suggestion don't considere special caratere like "é", "ç", etc ... which are mainly used in french, german, and many other language
[12:25] <mardy> morgan_: please file a bug here, if there are errors: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+filebug
[12:25] <morgan_> Bug is there : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1482896
[12:26] <morgan_> Since OTA 5
[12:26] <morgan_> So, I wonder who have I to speak with for helping
[12:30] <mardy> morgan_: IIRC Elleo is taking care of the virtual keyboard
[12:31] <morgan_> Thanks mardy, I'll wait him
[13:19] <Mirv> mardy: no sorry, not at the moment for yakkety. I can do such but it will build for quite some while.
[13:19] <mardy> Mirv: np, I'm building one locally, I just took the current one from yakkety-proposed and added my patch on top of it
[13:20] <Mirv> ok!
[13:45] <adam1704> I just installed ubuntu touch on nexus 7.  Is there a movie player?  thanks.
[13:46] <davmor2> adam1704: goto the scope for videos and open the video in mediaplayer
[13:46] <adam1704> davmor2  - OK. Looking now.
[13:47] <dobey> adam1704: yes, you can open local videos from the videos scope, or the gallery app
[13:48] <adam1704> Awesome....  I knew I must have been missing something. Thanks again.
[13:48] <dobey> or i guess file manager app if you install it
[13:49] <adam1704> I found a file manager, connected to a smb share, transfered the video. but clicking it just gave me a no ap available for movie type message.
[13:52] <adam1704> 'File Manager' --> click my m4v file and then..  'Sorry, there arn't currently and apps installed that can handle this type of content.'  I thought this was saying I had no movie player.  Very happy now it can play movies. thanks.
[13:54] <ogra> note that the filemanager copiies the video around before playing it
[13:54] <ogra> (i wouldnt use it for media playback until that is fixed)
[13:54] <adam1704> I use movies to study spanish. How can I switch audio tracks?  Perhaps I can start a move from command line?
[14:45] <s`> is there a way to turn on torch from command line?
[20:10] <mimecar> good night...
[20:43] <CereS> Hi, i got UT on my meizu mx4 for quite a while, some features like battery gauge, camera are quite unstable. i suppose it's from android 4.x hw drivers.
[20:44] <CereS> is UT on that phone compatible with android 5 or higher drivers?
[20:49] <skinux> Can Touch software be installed with factory Android powered LG Power?
[20:52] <k1l> it can if a) the bootloader is opened and b) someone makes a port for that device. but that is not a beginners task
[21:04] <CereS> good night & good luck
[23:34] <douglasbrito> hello
[23:34] <douglasbrito> one help
[23:34] <douglasbrito> for port
[23:34] <douglasbrito> ?