[06:17] <nikin_> i have created a new clean file
[06:17] <MrMakeveli> thanks for the info knight
[06:17] <amitsaha> nikin_: No syntax.
[06:17] <crimeboy> nikin_: nameserver IPDNS
[06:17] <xtknight> join #ubuntu+1 if you want to know more
[06:18] <amitsaha> nikin_: but just leave a blank line after the last line to play safe
[06:18] <nikin_> crimeboy: like "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[06:18] <crimeboy> nikin_: yeap
[06:18] <xtknight> amitsaha, min requires for beryl:  card that supports GL
[06:18] <amitsaha> nikin_: BINGO
[06:18] <xtknight> unless you want to use mesa on a supercomputer
[06:18] <xtknight> i'd suggest not
[06:18] <xtknight> ;)
[06:19] <Cacti1> yeah.. can't wait for that.... running Ubuntu on my laptop and lucky me it had a Broadcom Wireless network adapter in it...
[06:19] <Cacti1> I've used MS OSs for over 10 years...  So a CARD is necesary?
[06:19] <xtknight> amitsaha, adapter...
[06:19] <xtknight> amitsaha, laptops have some cards like the Go6800 thatll run it fine
[06:19] <xtknight> and intel onboard video2 might do it fine.  not sure
[06:19] <xtknight> maybe gefroce 6100 onboard also
[06:20] <amitsaha> xtknight: Oh ok
[06:20] <xtknight> it's a joy to use with a modern card like an nvidia 7800gt
[06:20] <xtknight> i dont care for a lot of the effects personally
[06:20] <xtknight> need to find a config that works for me
[06:21] <weisertm> anyone able to hep with setup on a PowerBook G4?  Having an issue with a Yaboot partition?
[06:21] <amitsaha> xtknight: Sometimes eyecandy is so good for strained eyes
[06:21] <xtknight> amitsaha, like mine right now
[06:21] <xtknight> xchat window has been burned into my retinas im sure
[06:21] <nikin_> every time i rebbot i loose every setting
[06:21] <xyz-abc> do I need to install Samba on Windows to network it with an Ubuntu pc?
[06:21] <nikin_> it gets frustrating
[06:22] <zero88> how do i check my log files??
[06:22] <amitsaha> xyz-abc: NO
[06:22] <amitsaha> nikin_: It seems abnormal
[06:22] <xtknight> you do if you want to use SMB
[06:22] <xtknight> but you're not installing samba on windows, youre installing smb (file and printer sharing)
[06:22] <amitsaha> nikin_: what setting are you talking about?
[06:22] <atoponce> zero88: they are stored in /var/log/
[06:22] <xyz-abc> amitsaha, I set up sharing on Ubuntu 6.10 and I have SMB and NFS installed, what do i do on the WinXP pc?
[06:23] <amitsaha> xtknight: I dont think we need to install samba on windows
[06:23] <xtknight> not samba
[06:23] <fizzmahon> hey guys. i have an HD 50 frame video here that is lagging crazy on most video players. my buddies with windows said i need the K-Lite codecs. those available for linux?
[06:23] <xtknight> but the smb protocol yes
[06:23] <zero88> atoponce what ones tho?
[06:23] <xyz-abc> for windows or ubuntu? ubuntu has SMB installed
[06:23] <nikin_> amitsaha: it does not start my wlancar.. i have to do it manually... and the reslove.conf does not work
[06:23] <fizzmahon> for linux
[06:23] <atoponce> zero88: all of them. what logs are you looking for?
[06:23] <xtknight> if you want to share FROM windows, you must install file&printer sharing
[06:23] <xtknight> if you want to acess linux from windows, i dont think you even need those sharing things
[06:24] <xtknight> xyz-abc, you go in Entire Network or Network Neighborhood or whatever they call it these days
[06:24] <crimeboy> nikin_: dont work?
[06:24] <zero88> atoponce say if my computer has been compromised
[06:24] <nikin_> amitsha: the iwconfig essid, and the ifconfig settings
[06:24] <dark_light> I am using feisty beta and when I installed mplayer package (and used mplayer command) the videos, in full screen, are taking only a part of the screen. like 1/4. Is this normal? There are a way to solve it? In edgy it didn't occurred
[06:24] <nikin_> crimeboy: no.. i can ping my router.. but nothing on the net
[06:25] <dark_light> I am trying using other video players, but I like some features of mplayer
[06:25] <nikin_> and i can ping in my LAN to
[06:25] <atoponce> zero88: if your computer has been compromised, then you need to figure out how. ie: ssh, ftp, smtp, web, etc. then look in the appropriate log file
[06:25] <mjbrooks> dark_light, try #ubuntu+1  Feisty isn't official yet
[06:25] <fromport> Q: i have a problem with an install. It gives me a "gpgv: BAD signature from "ubuntu archive automatic signing key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:25] <jodas> Can some one in here help me qtparted?
[06:25] <fromport> is there a known problem with mirrors ?
[06:26] <dark_light> mjbrooks, ok. (I though it was a common error of mplayer. It happened before with me, I think in dapper)
[06:26] <amitsaha> nikin_: the /etc/resolv.conf doesnt work?
[06:26] <nikin_> no it does not
[06:26] <nikin_> permissions are -rw-r--r-- for it owner is root
[06:27] <zero88> atoponce not saying it has,but im trying to brush up a little on my security and what to look for.would i open the .gz files?
[06:27] <eljorge> i've read somewhere that feisty should ask to install the proper codecs when i try to open a file, for example an mp3, am i a correct?
[06:27] <atoponce> zero88: no. the .gz files are rotated (older) files.
[06:27] <greg_g> eljorge: yes
[06:27] <amitsaha> nikin_: i Hope u have given it like namserver XX.XX.XX.XX
[06:27] <xbaez> ubuntu 5.04 not support sata right?
[06:27] <mjbrooks> eljorge, that's what they say ;)
[06:27] <nikin_> namserver?
[06:27] <xtknight> eljorge, in totem, at least, yes.
[06:27] <nikin_> not nameserver?
[06:27] <zero88> atoponce oh ok. well i tried opening wtmp but i couldnt
[06:27] <amitsaha> nikin_: sorry nameserver
[06:27] <mjbrooks> dark_light, it might just be a default setting, have you checked the preferences?
[06:28] <amitsaha> nikin_: ya fine
[06:28] <jodas> I will ask again.
[06:28] <nikin_> "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:28] <jodas> Can anyone in here help me with qtparted?
[06:28] <dark_light> mjbrooks, well, i have a ~/.mplayer/config just to set the subtitles
[06:28] <crimeboy> nikin_: add nameservers  <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <eljorge> mjbrooks, why nothing happens when i double click an mp3? shouldn't it ask me to install the codec?
[06:28] <amitsaha> nikin_: Works for me :)
[06:29] <crimeboy> nikin_: add nameservers  <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:29] <dark_light> I don't know any other preferences of mplayer (just config file + command line switches)
[06:29] <MohDesign>   mIRCArab  By
[06:29] <jodas> Can anyone help me with qtparted?
[06:29] <mjbrooks> eljorge, you might have to choose open from totem the first time instead of double clicking it
[06:29] <dark_light> mjbrooks, maybe I should look into the config of mplayer deeper..
[06:29] <xyz-abc> ok guys, I enabled file-sharing on the winxp pc, but i still can't see the ubuntu pc's shared folder (though I could when I live-booted into Feisty Fawn)
[06:29] <atoponce> zero88: any text editor can open the logs, given that you've gained admin access, and your browser can open the .gz logs
[06:30] <nikin_> crimeboy: "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[06:30] <mjbrooks> dark_light, yeah, if you have a config and it's incomplete that might be the cause
[06:30] <amitsaha> AmyRose: Hey thr
[06:30] <geekytrent> sup all
[06:30] <crimeboy> nikin_: yeap
[06:30] <dark_light> mjbrooks, hm
[06:30] <crimeboy> nikin_: u need super user id to edit the resolv..
[06:30] <zero88> atoponce oh ok
[06:31] <nikin_> crimeboy... i use sudo nano....
[06:31] <eljorge> thanks mjbrooks, that did it
[06:31] <amitsaha> nikin_:  do a sudo
[06:31] <crimeboy> ok
[06:31] <dark_light> mjbrooks, I removed the config, remains the same.
[06:31] <dark_light> mjbrooks, I give up for now -- gxine is working
[06:31] <mjbrooks> dark_light, if you didn't have a config it would do whatever is the default, but by having a config it's assuming that you specifically want or don't want things
[06:31] <mjbrooks> dark_light, lol
[06:31] <ssl> after update a few minius ago,my feisty can't boot!!!,Does someone have the same problem?
[06:31] <nikin_> do i have to restart any deamon to get reslov.conf working?
[06:31] <mjbrooks> eljorge, glad to hear
[06:31] <atoponce> ssl: feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <AmyRose> amitsaha: hi
[06:32] <crimeboy> nikin_: no, but try
[06:32] <PoofDaddy> Is it possible to get a vid from YouTube and paste into OpernOffice?
[06:32] <dark_light> thanks anyway mjbrooks:) i am hoping that this will be fixed when I install multimedia codecs
[06:33] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: doubtful
[06:33] <amitsaha> AmyRose: Lurking outta here? Or serious business?
[06:33] <Shaba1> Well as long as we are talking aobut that
[06:33] <mjbrooks> dark_light, good luck
[06:33] <Shaba1> anyone know how to get a web came to work with linux/xubuntu?
[06:33] <Shaba1> I looked at one page on the net and got lost
[06:33] <Shaba1> it was like reading greek
[06:33] <AmyRose> amitsaha: I'm lurking. :P
[06:33] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, it probably was greek   lol
[06:34] <amitsaha> Shaba1: give the URL
[06:34] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: I wanted to find it on Google videos, but athey all seem to be Youtube.
[06:34] <amitsaha> AmyRose: Cool!So whats up wid ya?
[06:34] <nikin_> it does not work :(
[06:34] <amitsaha> Any one participating in Google SoC?
[06:34] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: you're trying to take a video and paste it into openoffice?
[06:35] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: into the presentation
[06:35] <Shaba1> hold on let me fined it
[06:35] <amitsaha> nikin_: Perhaps you are faced of one of those things which wont workm although it shud
[06:35] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: .odp fiel
[06:35] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: file*
[06:35] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: i won't say it's impossible, because we are talking computers, but...
[06:35] <AmyRose> amitsaha: Please take join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[06:35] <mjbrooks> !anything
[06:35] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:35] <nikin_> if i install Ubuntu the standard way, or even alternate cd, this works fine
[06:35] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: google video and youtube stream the content directly off the server
[06:35] <AmyRose> s/take//
[06:35] <mjbrooks> lol
[06:35] <Shaba1> amitsaha you must remember I am a windows programmer
[06:35] <nikin_> wich program checks reslov.conf
[06:36] <Shaba1> and net admin
[06:36] <Shaba1> linux is a whole new world to me
[06:36] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: meaning...?
[06:36] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: so, you would need to capture the streaming packets and assemble them into the video
[06:36] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Ok. Just tell the URL which was greek to you
[06:36] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: sniffing?  Like on Wireshark?
[06:36] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: and, i don't know of a way to embed a video into the presentation
[06:37] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: something like that
[06:37] <bef> PoofDaddy: LOL
[06:37] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, soon you will be a linux programmer and we'll be one step closer to "taking over the world (tm)"
[06:37] <Shaba1> http://feanor.sssup.it/~pj/linux/creative_webcam_notebook.html
[06:37] <PoofDaddy> atoponce	: insert --> MOvie and sound
[06:37] <Shaba1> I do not think that is the one amitsaha but that is close
[06:37] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Just looking it up
[06:38] <Shaba1> well mjbrooks I have got to be honest
[06:38] <PoofDaddy> bef; you sound like a packet sniffer.
[06:38] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: then, rather than trying to save the video off of youtube, see if you can embed it, so it's still coming from the youtube servers
[06:38] <Shaba1> I am not impressed with the attitudes of the linux/unix people I have seen on this network
[06:38] <Shaba1> for the last 5 years
[06:38] <crimeboy> nikin_: how to u install it?
[06:38] <Shaba1> Not anyone in here in particular
[06:38] <Alonea> Has anyone ever gotten Oblivion to work on Linux with wine or something?
[06:38] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Be in for a change
[06:39] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: that is a thought, but I don't know if I'll have access to the internet during the presentation.
[06:39] <Shaba1> but its like they have this snotty assed sarcastic looking down on you assumptive attitude
[06:39] <geekytrent> Shaba1, what's wrong with people's attitude in here? most seem to be pretty friendly and helpful
[06:39] <Nick^69> how do I add or Install -x-libraries options on Ubuntu 7.04 plz ?
[06:39] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: i can tell you that you can't save the videos easily. it will take a great deal of effort
[06:39] <Shaba1> its like they use linux so they assume that everyone does
[06:39] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Well this is so true
[06:39] <Shaba1> geekytrent scroll up
[06:40] <nikin_> crimeboy: inserted kubuntu DVD ant then i selected install minimal consol system.. or something like that
[06:40] <Shaba1> you only read about a third of what I said
[06:40] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: through istanbul or something?
[06:40] <deCon> uh, is anyone willing to help me troubleshoot some super noob networking skills? I've been having some issues connecting and they came out of nowhere
[06:40] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: i don't know
[06:40] <bef> How can you take someone who's name is PoofDaddy seriously lol
[06:40] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Your webcam is USB?
[06:40] <crimeboy> nikin_: nice choice
[06:40] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, you must've been in a channel for some other distro
[06:40] <PoofDaddy> atoponce; istanbul is a desktop screen recorder
[06:40] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, cause I have to say
[06:41] <PoofDaddy> bef: I'm serious, so don't get it twisted.  :)
[06:41] <Nick^69> how do I add or Install -x-libraries options on Ubuntu 7.04 plz ?
[06:41] <crimeboy> nikin_: u need set the /etc/network/interfaces
[06:41] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: but, capturing the video and reassemling it is your only method of execution, i think. and i would have the slightest in how to accomplish that
[06:41] <narker> for those of you who got ATI video cards... what's better to install for XGL, the driver from ATI.com or the driver from the ubuntu repos??
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> deCon: Depends what sort - you should give more detail so people know whether they know the answer ;)
[06:41] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, I've been using Linux for years    YEARS   and the ubuntu community is a breath of fresh air
[06:41] <PoofDaddy> bef: I needed that.
[06:41] <Shaba1> Like I said mjbrooks no body in here in particular
[06:41] <Shaba1> its just
[06:41] <bef> every poofdaddy needs a hug
[06:41] <nikin_> crimeboy: can you post your in the pastebin
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> narker: I use the free driver from the repos with AIGLX, which sort of works.
[06:41] <Shaba1> Ok for instance I was in #php earlier today
[06:41] <PoofDaddy> bef: true dat!
[06:41] <crimeboy> nikin_: ok
[06:42] <Shaba1> and I am trying to find a debugger that works with SOME editor for php
[06:42] <PoofDaddy> atoponce: perhaps our new friend bef can assist me?
[06:42] <bonniefelixcat> hello.
[06:42] <Shaba1> I specifically said I use window
[06:42] <deCon> i have an issue where my router fails to give my pc access but says connected, and then i switch  the rj between the two ports a couple times and it return to normal, is there a way to restore absolute default settings or something?
[06:42] <bonniefelixcat> Hello?
[06:42] <atoponce> PoofDaddy: sounds good
[06:42] <bef> PoofDaddy: what are you crazy cats trying to do?
[06:42] <bonniefelixcat> HELLO???
[06:42] <geekytrent> bonniefelixcat, hi
[06:42] <Shaba1> well they took offence becasue I said that I had tried 5 differnt supposed IDEs and none of them had any type or documentation or suppport
[06:42] <bonniefelixcat> Hey, geekytrent
[06:43] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, you do realize that PHP isn't related to linux, windows or any other OS right?
[06:43] <Shaba1> I was like how hard can it be to make something step thru program lines
[06:43] <Shaba1> I know I am getting to that
[06:43] <bonniefelixcat> this is the first time i've tried IRC ...
[06:43] <bef> Narcolepsy.
[06:43] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, so if the #php guys gave you lip  it has nothing to do with linux
[06:43] <geekytrent> bonniefelixcat, ah i see, well, welcome and enjoy :D
[06:43] <Shaba1> Well on guy suggested phpdgb. So I search the net and its a linux lib.
[06:43] <bonniefelixcat> geekytrent: thank you.
[06:43] <eck> deCon: are you asking how to restore the settings on your router? just turn it off
[06:44] <crimeboy> nikin_: http://paste.lisp.org/display/39549
[06:44] <Shaba1> I very politley said that I had stated that I am using windows
[06:44] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, sorry, didn't mean to inteupt
[06:44] <Shaba1> well everyon in the channel got riled
[06:44] <bonniefelixcat> what's the point of IRC, anyhow? is it technical help or something?
[06:44] <bonniefelixcat> or just normal chat?
[06:44] <Shaba1> go ahed mjbrooks
[06:44] <geekytrent> bonniefelixcat, no, it is for tech help and just regular chat...
[06:44] <eck> bonniefelixcat: this channel is supposed to be for technical help (although sometimes it gets a bit off topic)
[06:44] <bonniefelixcat> cool.
[06:45] <bonniefelixcat> ooops... how do i change  channels?
[06:45] <eck> there is an #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[06:45] <crimeboy> nikin_: note, the interface eth0 static and eth1 dhcp
[06:45] <EnsignRedshirt> bonniefelixcat: *This* channel, #ubuntu, is (mostly) for ubuntu help, not idle chat.
[06:45] <amitsaha> Shaba1: I asked your using a USB Webcam?
[06:45] <PoofDaddy> bef: other than keeping it real, we're taliking about getting a vid from the internet (ie Youtube) and pasting it into OpenOffice Presentation.
[06:45] <geekytrent> bonniefelixcat, you just have to find a channel (room) that discusses what you want to talk about
[06:45] <Shaba1> Well its like every time you ask a question on this network everyone that answers assumes you are using linux
[06:45] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, well, it seems to me that some communities have more bad apples than others, but
[06:45] <crimeboy> nikin_: u will change to wlan a think
[06:45] <Shaba1> and if you are using window they start to give you sarcastic remarks
[06:45] <bonniefelixcat> Ensign and Geekytrent, how can I change channels???
[06:45] <bef> PoofDaddy: there's a Firefox plugin which can steal youtube videos
[06:45] <PoofDaddy> bef: Word?
[06:46] <PoofDaddy> bef: Dagnabit!  I'm an avid Opera user.
[06:46] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, well...
[06:46] <Shaba1> I know mjbrooks its like the people on here that use Linux feel they are so superiour just becasue they occasionally have to use a command line to do something
[06:46] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, it's a wrong assumption on their part
[06:46] <bef> PoofDaddy: Opera is for noobs.
[06:46] <bonniefelixcat> ensign and geekytrent, how can i change the channel?
[06:46] <geekytrent> bonniefelixcat, click on the ubuntu servers at the top left, and then in there type /list to see the list of rooms...to change to a room, type in /join #roomname
[06:47] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Do you want your problem solved?
[06:47] <Shaba1> oh guy this afternoon asked "what is your programing expericance Shaba1"
[06:47] <PoofDaddy> bef: Why I oughtta...
[06:47] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, then you've been dealing with wannabe kids
[06:47] <nikin_> crimeboy: i cahnged everything what needed to be... and done the settings... now rebooting
[06:47] <PoofDaddy> bef: I'm a noob.
[06:47] <baegle> I'm trying to get 3d acceleration on my ThinkPad t60p ATI Mobility FireGL in Ubuntu edgy. I do not have a dri module, it seems and I'm having problems determining if I need one, and if I do, how to get it.
[06:47] <Shaba1> He shut up when I said "Well I started using machine code on a Altair in 1976"
[06:47] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, hahaha
[06:47] <bef> PoofDaddy: Get FF2, and then get https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3242
[06:48] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, he wan't even born then probably
[06:48] <bef> PoofDaddy: or https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1993
[06:48] <crimeboy> nikin_: to set your degault gateway type: route add defeault gw IPGATEWAY
[06:48] <Shaba1> then I moved up to using a black and green phosporor that printed out on a thermal printer in 1979. Using SBASIC of course
[06:48] <crimeboy> default*
[06:48] <jordo23> Is there a way to change your systems name (net bios name, i think)?
[06:48] <Shaba1> anyway
[06:48] <Shaba1> sorry for all that
[06:48] <nikin_> crimeboy: i did the gateway settings in the interfaces... like in your file
[06:48] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, vent away   I know it can be frustrating when you run into the dweeb crowd
[06:49] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, all I'm saying is
[06:49] <deCon> eck, no, that doesn't work.....it is now a second happenstance
[06:49] <PoofDaddy> bef: wow! I didn't even know I had Firefox.   Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[06:50] <renovated> 1<PHONE_NUMBER> PLEASE VOTE FOR Sanjaya Malakar PLEEEEEEEASE HE MUST WIN
[06:50] <amitsaha> nikin_: Is the problem solved?
[06:50] <mjbrooks> tonyyarusso, ty
[06:50] <bef> lol who/what is Sanjaya Malakar
[06:50] <nikin_> amitsaha: the loosing settings problem is sloved the reslov.conf problem is still not
[06:50] <eck> deCon: well it might just be a problem with your cable
[06:50] <mjbrooks> bef, who cares?   lol
[06:50] <bef> mjbrooks: Lol, yeah I suppose :P
[06:51] <Fighter> agh
[06:51] <Fighter> hey
[06:51] <Shaba1> anyway amitsaha did you understand it?
[06:51] <Fighter> whats the filter set to?
[06:51] <nikin_> amitsaha: did you post your reslov.conf?
[06:51] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, anyways, we're glad to have you here... please forgive the occasional run in with dweebs,  we have our share of them   just like the windows community
[06:52] <amitsaha> amitsaha: Shud i?
[06:52] <PoofDaddy> bef: I downloaded it from FF, but it automatically bittorented from Opera's built-in bittorent.  Now what.  Is it there?  I just clicked download.
[06:52] <geekytrent> mjbrooks, agreed, and welcome Shaba1
[06:52] <Shaba1> mjbrooks I did not mean to whine but that is the reason other people call us "geeks"
[06:52] <nikin_> amitsaha: if you would be so kind :P
[06:52] <amitsaha> nikin_: Sure
[06:52] <deCon> eck, i don't think so because the cable direct connection to my ports works: after the router broke, i hadto switch it between my eth0 and eth1 ports so eth0-->eth1-->eth0 ..then it worked again, but i haven't tried to fix it via switching cables or power cycling on the router yet
[06:53] <bef> PoofDaddy: You install it with Firefox plugins/addons
[06:53] <Fighter> everyone! type: /timer 0 0 /msg #ubuntu text
[06:53] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, well, there's a difference between a "geek" and a "dweeb" ;)
[06:53] <amitsaha> nikin_: I am sending it
[06:53] <eck> deCon: some it is probably an issue with your router... if you want to try do play with dhcp manually (e.g. to request/renew leases) you can use the dhclient command
[06:54] <amitsaha> nikin_: Accept the tranfer
[06:54] <nikin_> amitsaha: i ame using Irssi ... dont know how to do that :( sorry
[06:54] <deCon> eck, but what is the root of the problem? any ideas? do routers possibly go bad after a couple years?
[06:54] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, I haven't even tried my webcam yet  lol
[06:54] <nikin_> cant you post it in private message?
[06:54] <deCon> eck, or is it my software?
[06:54] <amitsaha> Ok sure
[06:55] <PoofDaddy> bef: did it not work by clicking on it?  Is that just the Windows way to do it?
[06:55] <yax_> will somone help me setup wifi???
[06:55] <eck> deCon: usually the software is correct, but a lot of routers don't really do dhcp (or whatever) 100% correctly and that can give you problems -- for example, my cable modem doesn't renew leases properly. there could also be a hardware problem
[06:56] <deCon> eck, hrm, cuz my setup had been fine for a week or so, then it started going haywire
[06:56] <nikin_> brb
[06:56] <Shaba1> Well I still use windows on my laptop for work
[06:56] <deCon> eck, so i just need to manually renew the lease every so often?
[06:56] <Shaba1> I used gparted to repartiton theHD
[06:56] <Shaba1> so I hope eventually I can get that 10gigs back if I need it
[06:56] <eck> deCon: run dhclient and see if you get a lease
[06:57] <amitsaha> Shaba1: With Ubuntu, the transition is going to be smooth :)
[06:57] <eck> also, you can check for link connectivity with ifconfig
[06:57] <Shaba1> I put xubuntu on that ten gig partition
[06:57] <nikin> back :)
[06:57] <cschneid> Where is the data location config for the postgresql package?  I need to change the data directory the service starts with
[06:57] <Shaba1> but it would be nice to be able to use the web cam in xubuntu alway
[06:57] <Shaba1> also
[06:57] <nikin> i was here with an unreged nick.. so i couldnt read the pm
[06:57] <bonniefelixcat> ok bye
[06:57] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Is it USB?
[06:57] <Shaba1> right now xubuntu is just for me explorring linux
[06:58] <Shaba1> yes it is amitsaha
[06:58] <Shaba1> I eventually want to take one of the newer machines I have at work and put ipcop on it.
[06:58] <yax_> somone avalable to help me setup some things up?   I am noob and need lots o help....
[06:58] <deCon> eck, what am i looking for?
[06:58] <Shaba1> and get rid of the winproxy I have running now
[06:59] <eck> i think it will say RUNNING if it detects a link
[06:59] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Just plug it in
[06:59] <amitsaha> Shaba1: and then do dmesg
[06:59] <nikin> yax_ just post the problems 1by1
[06:59] <amitsaha> Shaba1: and say me the last 10 lines
[06:59] <Shaba1> winproxy frustrated me also. Becasue every time I need to call tec support I get some jerk in india reading off a script whose accent is so thick I cannot even understand what he is saying
[07:00] <eck> i'm not 100% sure though
[07:00] <Fighter> ...
[07:00] <psynth> is there a way to change te icons to smaller ones, on my laptop 1024x768 the icons seem huge in comparison to everything else ?
[07:00] <Shaba1> OK hold on amitsaha let me hook up the laptop and start xubuntu
[07:00] <geekytrent> Shaba1, oh yeah, i hate dealing with those...if i'm english, give me a native english speaker!
[07:00] <Shaba1> I am on windows on my desktop right now
[07:00] <nikin> amitsaha: no luck sending it?
[07:01] <SperMite_> Why do people from other distros call ubuntu evil? i've been seeing that alot lately
[07:01] <macd_> are there any known issues with no sound on a laptop equiped with intel ich6
[07:01] <mjbrooks> SperMite_, they're jealous
[07:01] <nikin> SperMite_: distrowars are allways there :D
[07:01] <yax_> i dont know what kind of wifi card i have... where can i get drivers and how dom i install?
[07:02] <geekytrent> SperMite_, and probably because ubuntu is including an easy to use codec installer (and a lot of codecs are proprietary or have licensing issues)
[07:02] <crimsun> yax_: is it built into your computer, or is it an insertable card-like device?
[07:02] <yax_> built in
[07:02] <geekytrent> SperMite_, and this goes against their thought of everything free, nothing proprietary kinda attitude....
[07:02] <eck> deCon: nevermind, you should use 'ip link show' to check if the ethernet device detects a link
[07:03] <Flannel>  /lastlog Hansel
[07:03] <yax_> compaq presario v6120
[07:03] <crimsun> yax_: please pastebin (use http://pastebin.ca) the output from ``lspci -v && lspci -vvn'' from within a Terminal
[07:03] <Foone> I accidentally dragged an image onto the window list toolbar, and now that image is set as the background of the toolbar. How can I reset that to the default background? Changing theme doesn't seem to affect it
[07:03] <SperMite_> geekytrent well put
[07:03] <odat> how do i change settings in a .ko file
[07:04] <crimsun> Foone: secondary-click the toolbar, choose Properties, click the Background tab, then choose None
[07:04] <PoofDaddy> bef: have you forgot me, my Antipodean friend?
[07:04] <amitsaha> nikin: accept the file
[07:04] <odat> how do i change settings in a .ko file
[07:05] <nikin> amitsaha: 1 sec
[07:05] <Foone> crimsun: Wherever I click it I get specific options to that section of the toolbar (like the window list or the clock), nothing with a background option
[07:05] <Shaba1> amitsaha its booting up
[07:05] <crimsun> odat: you don't change them /in/ a kernel module; generally you pass a "param=value" pair to insmod/modprobe
[07:05] <Shaba1> the machine that is
[07:05] <frayfan21> Hmmmmm............... how do I change my name in IRC?
[07:05] <Shaba1> not the camera
[07:05] <crimsun> Foone: secondary-click an empty portion of the toolbar
[07:05] <Foone> ahah, had to clear some space
[07:05] <Foone> there was no empty portions. Thanks
[07:05] <odat> crimsun, i am trying to adjust the brightness for the vicam.ko module and not sure how
[07:06] <Shaba1> frayfan21 just type /nick thenameyouwant
[07:06] <Shaba1> on a single line
[07:06] <frayfan21> ok thank you
[07:06] <crimsun> odat: that module doesn't accept any parameters
[07:06] <nikin> ok .. back with gaim
[07:06] <Shaba1> amitsaha was that dmseg?
[07:06] <amitsaha> Shaba1: dmesg
[07:07] <Fan_Of_The_Fray> There...
[07:07] <norbia> somebody help me
[07:07] <Shaba1> whoah
[07:07] <nikin> amitsaha: i hope now i can get what you send.. i assume gaim is capable to handle that
[07:07] <Shaba1> lotsa lines
[07:07] <Shaba1> hold on
[07:07] <amitsaha> norbia: whats the prob?
[07:07] <odat> crimsun, hmmmm the cam works but is very very dark
[07:07] <amitsaha> Shaba1: just last few lines
[07:07] <norbia> i m using kubuntu 6.06
[07:07] <Shaba1> last
[07:07] <Shaba1> ok
[07:08] <Shaba1> hold on let me scroll back then
[07:08] <norbia> when i try to dial through kppp
[07:08] <norbia> ppp deamon crashes
[07:08] <Shaba1> handlers:
[07:08] <norbia> kppp says
[07:08] <amitsaha> norbia:  try the command LIne
[07:08] <norbia> i tried
[07:08] <amitsaha> Shaba1: IM me
[07:08] <norbia> wht kpp says is tht
[07:09] <deCon> eck, that cut me off...and i was directly connected to my modem
[07:09] <norbia> "theserver has to configure itself "
[07:09] <odat> crimsun, any ideas?
[07:09] <amitsaha> norbia: What connection are you using?
[07:09] <eck> deCon: the dhclient command did?
[07:09] <norbia> dialup
[07:09] <amitsaha> nikin: Its not working is it?
[07:09] <norbia> kppp continues
[07:09] <Shaba1> [<ccd3049>]  (via_driver_irq_handler+0x0/0x1d0 [via] )
[07:09] <Fan_Of_The_Fray> that didn't work...
[07:09] <amitsaha> norbia: GPRS "?
[07:10] <deCon> eck, also the inactive eth1 has an orange light on, while my main eth0 doesn't have anything on if unplugged, i tried to do some internet sharing via ifconfig and some long command and i think that might have messed my iptables
[07:10] <norbia> "but i cant find any secret passwords for it to do so"
[07:10] <Shaba1> diabling IRQ#20
[07:10] <deCon> eck, yes
[07:10] <norbia> no
[07:10] <_bonnie_felix_th> oops
[07:10] <bonniefelixcats> yay!
[07:10] <norbia> i have int modem
[07:10] <bonniefelixcats> BRB
[07:10] <geekytrent> bonniefelixcats, lol
[07:10] <norbia> conexant
[07:10] <Shaba1> apm BIOS version 1.2 Flage 0x03 (Drivers version 1.16secac)
[07:11] <Shaba1> apm:overidden by ACPI
[07:11] <norbia> amit are u there?
[07:11] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Just copy the last few lines and send it to me in a file
[07:11] <Shaba1> ra0: bi IPv6 routers present
[07:11] <wzman> sorry to say i am new at this but need help please
[07:11] <Shaba1> how
[07:11] <Rio79> im formating a 2nd harddrive.  whats the difference between making it ext3 or fat32?
[07:11] <odat> anyone one have experience with the vicam driver?
[07:12] <Shaba1> its on another machine running xubutu
[07:12] <Shaba1> hold on
[07:12] <Shaba1> let me try to run xchat
[07:12] <Flannel> !ask | wzman
[07:12] <jtholmes> Rio79: will the new drive be Linux or Windows
[07:12] <ubotu> wzman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:12] <eck> deCon: do not worry about iptables. if you were already connected then running dhclient will disconnect you because your current lease will expire (although you should get a new one pretty much right away)
[07:12] <Rio79> jtholmes linux
[07:12] <eck> if you get a lease though then i don't think you have to worry about anything
[07:13] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Copy the last few lines, Create a new text file and send the file to me
[07:13] <jtholmes> Rio79: then make it ext3
[07:13] <Shaba1> ok how do I copy and paste from a terminal window Amaranth
[07:13] <tag-> widescreen?
[07:13] <Rio79> ahh..
[07:13] <Shaba1> sorry amitsaha.
[07:13] <Rio79> hrmm
[07:13] <Shaba1> I told you I was new to linux
[07:13] <Shaba1> I know how in windwos
[07:13] <tag-> I can't seem to get ubuntu to give me widescreen resolutions
[07:13] <amitsaha> Shaba1: What?
[07:13] <Shaba2> ok hello
[07:14] <Shaba1> thats my clone on xchat
[07:14] <tag-> Shaba2: select the text, and then point the mouse to where you want to paste the text, then middle click
[07:14] <wzman> ok... am trying ubuntu live cd need to install java to make firefox work but am lost wont install auto need to install manual and dazed and cornfused where to even start
[07:14] <deCon> eck, ya, it said 1006 seconds til renewel
[07:14] <nikin> amitsaha: i hope you like my test picture... i never ised IRC to send files... but it seems to work
[07:14] <B4C> amit
[07:14] <tag-> Shaba2: if you don't have a three button mouse, click both bottons at the same time
[07:14] <B4C> hey
[07:14] <tag-> Shaba2: if you don't have a two button mouse, try hitting shift+insert :-)
[07:14] <B4C> amit i m norbia
[07:14] <deCon> eck, so i switched it back and forth from my two eth ports
[07:14] <Shaba2> [17179600.684000]  PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:01:00.0, from 10 to 9
[07:14] <Shaba2> [17179600.684000]  [drm]  Initialized via 2.7.4 20051116 on minor 0
[07:14] <Shaba2> [17179600.740000]  agpgart: Found an AGP 3.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0.
[07:14] <Shaba2> [17179600.740000]  agpgart: Xorg tried to set rate=x12. Setting to AGP3 x8 mode.
[07:14] <Shaba2> [17179600.740000]  agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 8x mode
[07:14] <Shaba2> [17179600.740000]  agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 8x mode
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]  irq 201: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option)
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]   <c01499a4> __report_bad_irq+0x24/0x80  <c0149a9d> note_interrupt+0x9d/0x270
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]   <c0149323> handle_IRQ_event+0x33/0x60  <c0149448> __do_IRQ+0xf8/0x110
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]   <c0105c89> do_IRQ+0x19/0x30  <c010408a> common_interrupt+0x1a/0x20
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]  handlers:
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]  [<ccd30490>]  (via_driver_irq_handler+0x0/0x1d0 [via] )
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.244000]  Disabling IRQ #201
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.756000]  apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
[07:15] <Shaba2> [17179601.756000]  apm: overridden by ACPI.
[07:15] <mjbrooks> !pastebin
[07:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:15] <diabolix> is it possible to install gtk themes as a user?
[07:15] <Shaba1> See I told you
[07:15] <diabolix> like, in my home directory some where.
[07:15] <Shaba1> I knew I was going to get flood kicked
[07:15] <Madpilot> Shaba1, first, use a pastebin for that - second, why are you here 'twice'?
[07:16] <B4C> hello
[07:16] <B4C> amit
[07:16] <Shaba1> ask amitsaha
[07:16] <Flannel> wzman: why do you need to install java and flash on the liveCD?
[07:16] <Madpilot> diabolix, yes
[07:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, themes | diabolix
[07:16] <ubotu> diabolix: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:16] <B4C> amitsaha
[07:16] <diabolix> not themes, engines
[07:16] <amitsaha> Shaba1 come to the personal window
[07:17] <Snake> any suggestions for a p2p network client?
[07:17] <jtholmes> wzman: what happens when you execute  apt-get install firefox
[07:17] <wzman> trying to get the hang of ubuntu before i install to do away with windows
[07:17] <Shaba1> if I can amitsaha
[07:17] <Shaba1> like I said
[07:17] <diabolix> Madpilot: forgive me if i'm wrong, but those are for themes. i'm interested in an engine.
[07:17] <Shaba1> new to linux as well as xchat
[07:17] <jtholmes> wzman: are u running on live cd
[07:17] <Polygon89> snake, what do you want? bittorent client? clients like limewire?
[07:17] <wzman> was trying to surf web and firefox said i needed to install java
[07:17] <wzman> yes
[07:17] <Xoke> snake: I use bittornado myself
[07:17] <amitsaha> Shaba1: I sent you a personal message
[07:17] <Madpilot> diabolix, I'm actually not sure - I've installed lots of themes, but never had to mess with the engines themselves
[07:18] <diabolix> ok. thanks
[07:18] <runjun> What's the best software for connecting a tungsten t3, I've gone through the wizard but it doesn't seem to be able to load anything
[07:18] <blahman> yes im in
[07:18] <Lotteh> Hey, I got a new PC and installed linux on it and my front audio is not hooked up to the motherboard I seen and I was wondering if anyone could help me real fast, if I gave you link to my motherboard and told you the label names of the wires?
[07:18] <Madpilot> amitsaha, you need to be registered & identified on Freenode to send a PM
[07:18] <Flannel> wzman: just seems like a lot of hassle to go through on something that's not even permanant.  It's doable though.
[07:18] <jtholmes> wzman: not sure how apt-get  install  would work on live cd
[07:18] <blahman> hello guyz im new
[07:18] <blahman> to this channel
[07:18] <GreySim> runjun: JPilot usually works for Palm stuff for me when nothing else will.
[07:18] <Shaba1> Not posible amitsaha
[07:18] <jtholmes> wzman: not sure it would stay installed
[07:19] <blahman> k i am having trouble installing ubuntu
[07:19] <blahman> can anyone help
[07:19] <whaleofconfusion> I used the Internet earlier today
[07:19] <wzman> temp is ok  just want to make it work for now..
[07:19] <runjun> thanks GreySim
[07:19] <Shaba1> "private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam."
[07:19] <Flannel> !java | wzman
[07:19] <ubotu> wzman: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:19] <jtholmes> blahman: what is the problem
[07:19] <Shaba1> and I do not have shaba2 regitsted
[07:19] <Shaba1> I just chose it so I cold run xchat and mirc at the same time
[07:19] <wzman> lol.... huh?
[07:19] <amitsaha> Shaba1: why dont you register Shaba1?
[07:19] <Flannel> wzman: you'll need to enable multiverse, then install the java packages.  Flash is similar.
[07:20] <jtholmes> wzman: you cant easily choose where to install a package like java
[07:20] <Flannel> wzman: follow that first URL, it'll explain it
[07:20] <Shaba1> amitsaha I told you
[07:20] <jtholmes> wzman: it installs where it is designed to
[07:20] <Shaba1> xubuntu is on the laptop that I am trying to get the webcam working on.
[07:20] <blahman> jtholmes, ubuntu wont install because it keep saying xserver( graphical interface not found)
[07:20] <jtholmes> wzman: theres your answer follow the url
[07:20] <Shaba1> I am typing here on a windwos machine using mIRC
[07:20] <Shaba1> does that make sense now?
[07:20] <odat> crimsun, you still there?
[07:20] <yax_> ok back.... where can i find wifi drivers...
[07:21] <amitsaha> Shaba1:  It does now
[07:21] <wzman> ok... can i stay here or do i need to leave while i look at url?
[07:21] <jtholmes> blahman: what type of hardware
[07:21] <GreySim> Question for the channel. If I'm trying to get help with Ubuntu Feisty with LTSP and Pulse Audio questions, is this the best place for it, or is there a more appropriate channel (I know a lot of that stuff is baked into edubuntu by default...)?
[07:21] <tag-> bah
[07:21] <amitsaha> Shaba1: U can mail me the file
[07:21] <Flannel> wzman: of course you can stay here
[07:21] <deCon> eck, you still here?
[07:21] <amitsaha> Shaba1: also send me the output of lsusb
[07:21] <blahman> hey jtholmes, can we chat about my ubuntu problem
[07:21] <deCon> anyone have complex ideas about networking, i'm having some strange issues
[07:21] <wzman> ok be back soon... maybe lol
[07:22] <jtholmes> blahman: sure go ahead
[07:22] <Madpilot> GreySim, #ubuntu+1 for Fiesty questions
[07:22] <Shaba1> Would it just not be eaiser for you to just pm shaba2
[07:22] <Shaba1> ??
[07:22] <blahman> k accept the chat send jtholmes
[07:22] <odat> anyone familiar with kernel patches?
[07:22] <puremacker> Uh...I screwed up...Automatix istaller broke my gnome terminal and my comp will not boot other then in xterm
[07:22] <zues^62> just a ? does ubuntu need a disk defragmenter like windows?
[07:22] <puremacker> can anyone help me
[07:22] <amitsaha> Shaba1: did u get shaba2?
[07:23] <Shaba1> yes
[07:23] <zues^62> whats up pure
[07:23] <zues^62> shab who u sayin yes to?
[07:23] <amitsaha> Shaba1:  Did u get my message on shaba2?
[07:23] <Flannel> !automatix | puremacker
[07:23] <ubotu> puremacker: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:23] <Shaba1> that is how I was in here and pasted the ouput from dmesg and got kciked
[07:23] <jtholmes> blahman: i opened the channel to you accept
[07:23] <puremacker> i see.
[07:24] <Shaba1> nope
[07:24] <jpsamara> Any chance gaim final gets to ubuntu feisty? has anyone seen the gaim page?
[07:24] <amitsaha> Shaba1: God!
[07:24] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know about a program that will search for and delete unnecessary files? (core dumps, older kernels, temp files, etc.)
[07:24] <puremacker> any other way to fix it, i tried to reinstall gnome-terminal through apt-get in nterm, but it failed? told me to se --fix-mising...
[07:24] <Shaba1> I think yournick must be unregistered too
[07:24] <puremacker> xterm*
[07:24] <jtholmes> Megaqwerty: find
[07:24] <Madpilot> puremacker, so, did you run the apt-get command it suggested, and did that actually fix anything?
[07:24] <puremacker> nope
[07:25] <amitsaha> Shaba1:Hey for the moment post the file to me at dandolls AT yahoo.co.in
[07:25] <puremacker> same outcome
[07:25] <Flannel> puremacker: the ways automatix breaks things are mysterious and erratic.
[07:25] <Megaqwerty> jtholmes: I mean that finds junk files by preset parameters.
[07:25] <puremacker> haha...i found out the hard way
[07:25] <amitsaha> Shaba1: also send me the output of lsusb
[07:25] <amitsaha> Shaba1: I gotta go now
[07:25] <jtholmes> Megaqwerty: like size age last accessed special name etc.  yes  find
[07:26] <crimsun> odat: what's up?
[07:26] <Megaqwerty> jtholmes: okay, thanks. btw, are you knowledgeable with live cds?
[07:26] <Madpilot> puremacker, the easiest fix might be to just reinstall Ubuntu - then avoid autobreakitz...
[07:26] <amitsaha> Shaba1: Mail me if help required or i should see you soon here
[07:26] <puremacker> so I should just reinstall ubuntu huh?...
[07:26] <puremacker> oh
[07:26] <puremacker> ok
[07:26] <jtholmes> Megaqwerty: somewhat what is the question
[07:26] <puremacker> tahnks you guys
[07:26] <puremacker> gotta find that cd
[07:27] <blahman> can anyone help me please install ubuntu, i keep running into the blue screen error during boot up installation
[07:27] <Megaqwerty> jtholmes: I found "Ubuntu Ultimate Edition" and would like to take some if not all of it's programs, themes, etc. But I don't want to reformat my current system
[07:28] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: All of the crap in that release is available for normal ubuntu, most of it is in the official repositories
[07:28] <Rio79> how do i view files on ubuntu from a windows pc? both pcs are on the same network, and i have installed samba on ubuntu
[07:28] <jtholmes> megaqw
[07:28] <blahman> can any1 help me
[07:28] <nikin> i played a bit around with the reslov.conf.. and it seems that the problem must be somewhere else.... how can i check my gateway settings?
[07:29] <jtholmes> Megaqwerty: there is your answer
[07:29] <Flannel> blahman: did you verify the CD?
[07:29] <blahman> yes
[07:29] <Megaqwerty> Alright, thanks Flannel
[07:29] <jtholmes> blahman: i opened a private chan to you accept it and we can talk
[07:29] <blahman> k
[07:29] <Megaqwerty> Flannel: well, actually what about the themes? I can't seem to find them on the cd
[07:29] <blahman> how do accept, im new irc
[07:30] <steve__> anyone familiar with kernel patches?
[07:30] <blahman> im using mirc
[07:30] <Megaqwerty> (e.g. in the .icon or .theme directory)
[07:30] <Shaba1> mjbrooks you still here?
[07:30] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, yup
[07:30] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: no idea.  Do you know what the themes are called?  Ubuntu uses standard gnome themes, so any theme you find for gnome, can be put on ubuntu.  Probably on gnome-looks or whatnot
[07:30] <nikin> Rio: did you shared any folders?
[07:30] <Shaba1> that was a typical example of what I meant
[07:31] <jtholmes> blahman: i would imagine that mirc and chatzilla work together
[07:31] <jtholmes> blahman: i am on the latter try to open pvt chan to me
[07:31] <Megaqwerty> Flannel: The one I want is a custom theme, but Thanks anyway,
[07:31] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, I think I missed something... what was an example"
[07:31] <mjbrooks> ?
[07:31] <Shaba1> I told him right off that I was on a windows desktop typingright now
[07:32] <Shaba1> and that xbuntu was on the laptop
[07:32] <Flannel> Megaqwerty: I'm sure it's around somewhere
[07:32] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, oh, that
[07:32] <Megaqwerty> most likely
[07:32] <Shaba1> hey said well run dmesg and past the lines in her
[07:32] <Shaba1> Well how am I suppose to do that typing on a windows machien
[07:32] <Shaba1> ???
[07:33] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, well, if your seeking help for linux, it's assumed you have access to the linux machine
[07:33] <blahman> jtholmes, i typed in the chat window u sent me, can you see my text
[07:33] <Shaba1> mjbrooks I said that right off
[07:33] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, that you are seeking help with
[07:33] <Shaba1> in the first
[07:33] <Shaba1> so ok I said let me start the laptop
[07:33] <Shaba1> I did
[07:33] <jtholmes> blahman: no lets talk here
[07:33] <blahman> k
[07:33] <pranav_> hi
[07:33] <bicycledaave> hi all, every time I start xterm or rxvt, the machine seems to respond very slow, why?
[07:34] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, right,   but to help you she needed info from the linux machine....   I don't see that as unreasonable
[07:34] <blahman> jtholmes, here is the link that has video on the same exact problem:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3GD0JxsFA
[07:34] <Shaba1> came in under shaba2 and then did exactly what he said pasted the last few lines of the dmesg command. AFTER someone told me how to copy and paste on linux
[07:34] <pranav_> I want to know more on xubuntu
[07:34] <Shaba1> I know that mjbrooks. My point was the assumtions
[07:34] <pranav_> may I get some guidence
[07:34] <pranav_> ??
[07:35] <Madpilot> Shaba1, a general assumption that someone asking for help here is actually on Ubuntu is hardly unreasonable
[07:35] <clearzen> !ask | pranav
[07:35] <ubotu> pranav: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:35] <blahman> do i have to be registered with the freenode network to chat privately with people in here
[07:35] <Shaba1> even after I had typed that I was on a windows machine typing as we speck
[07:35] <Madpilot> blahman, yes
[07:35] <mjbrooks> pranav_, turn left
[07:35] <blahman> dang
[07:35] <pranav_> he he ok
[07:35] <blahman> brb
[07:35] <pranav_> mjbrooks: ??
[07:35] <Shaba1> he/she still assumes that I can copy and paste this dseg command that does nto exist on a windows machen
[07:35] <Shaba1> see what I eman
[07:35] <Shaba1> mean
[07:36] <mjbrooks> pranav_, did you see that thing fly over your head?   That was my joke passing by
[07:36] <jtholmes> blahman: yes
[07:36] <pranav_> he  he :)
[07:36] <jtholmes> blahman: what hardware are you using
[07:36] <steve__> anyone know how to compile a module?
[07:37] <jtholmes> steve__: is it part of the kernel module set
[07:37] <clearzen> steve__: If you have the source yeah
[07:37] <Shaba1> its the same assumption people make when you are trying to help them with their computer over the phone on in a chat.
[07:37] <Megaqwerty> steve__: if you have the source, do "sudo make modules"
[07:37] <Madpilot> Shaba1, please stop complaining - like I already said, access to the Ubuntu machine you're asking about is hardly an unreasonable assumption... now drop it, thanks.
[07:37] <blahman> hey jtholmes, did you get my private chat window
[07:37] <Shaba1> The never seem to realize that you cannot see thru their eyes
[07:38] <Shaba1> that you cannot see thier screens
[07:38] <blahman> ?
[07:38] <jtholmes> blahman: not yet did you register
[07:38] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, so lets assume for a moment that this was a MS Windows support channel and you came in here using linux and wanted to know how to get your webcam setup in Vista.... what you're saying is that you'd get upset that we would assume you were in windows?
[07:38] <Shaba1> or se what they are typing
[07:38] <clearzen> steve__: ./configure; make; sudo make install; sudo modprobe <module.name>
[07:38] <blahman> jtholmes, how do register with freenode
[07:38] <Shaba1> Yes I would if I stated up front that I was using linux
[07:39] <jtholmes> anyone know how to register nickname with freenode long time since it did it
[07:39] <Shaba1> or that windows was on another machine that I needed to boot up
[07:39] <Shaba1> jtholmes
[07:39] <Rio79> jtholmes follow up question (ext3 or fat32). i want want to be able to access the same harddrive from a windows pc, since they are on the same network
[07:39] <Rio79> in that case, fat32?
[07:39] <Shaba1> type /msg nickserv set register password email
[07:39] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, knowing the windows crowd, they'd probably tell you to come back in windows
[07:40] <Shaba1> true
[07:40] <jtholmes> Rio79: if that is the case then yes  fat32
[07:40] <Shaba1> what I am saying is that .... on never mind
[07:40] <Madpilot> Shaba1, drop it. You're starting to troll.
[07:40] <jtholmes> blahman: do you see shabia1
[07:40] <steve__> clearzen, u there?
[07:40] <Shaba1> Yeah
[07:40] <Rio79> jtholmes ...okay, so you can not access a harddrive that is formatted to ext3 from a windows machine
[07:40] <jeah> I'm having heat issues in ubuntu that I didn't have with windows and am having trouble finding a solution.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:40] <Rio79> ic
[07:40] <Rio79> thanks
[07:40] <jtholmes> blahman: do u see shaba1 answer on how to register
[07:41] <blahman> yes
[07:41] <blahman> let me try
[07:41] <blahman> just a sec...
[07:41] <Shaba1> Oh I thought that was you jtholmes?
[07:41] <Shaba1> that needed the help
[07:42] <blahman> jtholmes, i gonna open a private chat ok, see if you can accept it
[07:42] <steve__> anyone know how to compile a module?
[07:42] <blahman> jtholmes, can you accept?
[07:42] <Shaba1> that was taken from memory (mine) blahman so it may not be exactly right
[07:42] <blahman> it worked
[07:42] <jtholmes> Shaba1: thanks blahman: needed to register
[07:42] <Shaba1> if not use /msg help nickserv
[07:42] <OrTigaS> hi! how to make/create icon of WallClock in Desktop?
[07:42] <Shaba1> or /msg help nickserv register
[07:43] <blahman> cause the freenode window popped up saying i registered
[07:43] <Shaba1> Ok
[07:43] <Shaba1> my memory is not totally gone then
[07:43] <jtholmes> blahman: ok now you can double click my name and a pvt window will open up and I will accept
[07:43] <Sevink> Hello, I've been thinking about making Ubuntu my secondary OS on my laptop. Could anyone tell me the perks of it?
[07:43] <steve__> ???
[07:43] <blahman> jtholmes, yeah the blank window popped up
[07:43] <nikin> i have set up my network.. on a console only system.. it works in LAN but there are problems with the DNS, so i cant ping, or acces anything on the internet: i have a reslov.conf , the same as working on an other maschine in my LAN
[07:43] <OrTigaS> Dual-Boot
[07:44] <Shaba1> first Sevink look at the HW requirements and see if your laptop fits them
[07:44] <steve__> anyone know how to compile and or patch a module?
[07:44] <OrTigaS> hi! how to make/create icon of WallClock in Desktop?
[07:44] <Shaba1> or you will spend 19 hours like I did trying to get unbuntu to install from a live cd
[07:45] <mjbrooks> Sevink, stability, security, privacy and sanity
[07:45] <OrTigaS> 19hrs???
[07:45] <OrTigaS> wow
[07:45] <Shaba1> only to find out from someone in this channel that OH NO you do not have enough ram to install ubuntu try xubuntu
[07:45] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, how much RAM?
[07:45] <Sevink> Yep its meets requirements
[07:45] <OrTigaS> you didn't read the docs first maybe :)
[07:45] <Shaba1> at wich point it took like 45 minutes
[07:47] <nikin>  i have set up my network.. on a console only system.. it works in LAN but there are problems with the DNS, so i cant ping, or acces anything on the internet: i have a reslov.conf , the same as working on an other maschine in my LAN
[07:47] <steve__> anyone able to help with a kernel patch?
[07:47] <Shaba1> Oh yes I did
[07:47] <Sevink> Will I be able to run pc games through this or know how much work it would take to get them running?
[07:48] <Madpilot> Sevink, you mean Windows games? Depends on the game.
[07:48] <Shaba1> I printed out the installation from livecd document straight from the web
[07:48] <Shaba1> that 19 hour included trying to get partition logic to non destructively repartion my HD
[07:48] <Shaba1> which did not work
[07:48] <ammiel> When does Feisty come out? ( the non-beta)
[07:48] <gaminggeek> Sevink, what games?
[07:48] <gaminggeek> ammiel, 19th
[07:49] <Shaba1> O I had to burn a gparted.iso onto cd and use that
[07:49] <mjbrooks> Sevink, laptops can be troublesome because they tend to have exotic hardware components. I recommend you check out http://www.linux-laptop.net to see how others fared with the same system you have
[07:49] <mjbrooks> ammiel, Apr 19   I believe
[07:49] <ammiel> hmm, might as well update now
[07:49] <m1chael> the file extension cr2 ... it's a canon raw camera data file... how can i work with a file like this? i've read that it conforms to a .tiff standard.. but renaming as .tif and trying to open in gimp does not work for me... can anyone give me any quick suggestions?
[07:49] <ammiel> there doesnt seem to be many bugs anyhow
[07:50] <Sevink> Windows games, right now Im addicted to World of Warcraft, however I found out about an mmo from Warhammer which will be Windows only.
[07:50] <nikin> i think i go.... have a nice day.
[07:50] <gaminggeek> Sevink, WoW works under wine
[07:50] <mjbrooks> m1chael, there's a gimp plugin for it   forget what it's called
[07:50] <m1chael> ooh cool thank you
[07:51] <mjbrooks> m1chael, gimp-dcraw
[07:51] <Sevink> Basically I'm looking for a an OS to replace windows for gaming purposes.
[07:51] <m1chael> thank you mjbrooks
[07:51] <abuyazan> hello all
[07:51] <mjbrooks> m1chael, happy snapping!
[07:51] <m1chael> i just got a canon eos 30d and it's SICK!
[07:52] <mjbrooks> m1chael, I'm a nikon guy myself
[07:52] <m1chael> cool
[07:52] <m1chael> everyone around me is using canons.. so that's why i went with this
[07:52] <mjbrooks> m1chael, but the 30D is a nice camera
[07:52] <gaminggeek> Sevink, then its not linux sorry man
[07:52] <gaminggeek> wow will work
[07:53] <m1chael> i got the speedlight flash and 24-105mm lens
[07:53] <gaminggeek> ID and epic games are native
[07:53] <Sevink> yeah, wow runs fine on OSX.
[07:53] <gaminggeek> and we get some ported
[07:53] <m1chael> i've got a large learning curve ahead of me with this stuff
[07:53] <abuyazan> i face problem in login window
[07:53] <abuyazan> when i choose system->administration->login window it start trying to start but disappear (didn't work) and i cannot find any logs why this happen
[07:53] <gaminggeek> thats 'cause billzard like mac
[07:54] <abuyazan> it is just from yesterday , before that it was working
[07:54] <Rio79> can someone help me out? ive been having trouble trying to get my ubuntu box to share a folder with a windows pc on the same network.  i installed samba, and enable shared folders under system, administration.  when i try to connect to it from the windows box, it asks for a user name and password.  i enter the information, and the same window pops up as if i entered a wrong username and/or password
[07:55] <wzman> wow this is supposed to be easier than windows?
[07:55] <jontec> I know there's a place in the wiki... I don't know where it is, though... how can I get the listing of the repositories that I should have?
[07:55] <Sevink> Oh well thanks for the help guys. I'm out.
[07:56] <wzman> what i got from all that was that since i am live cd it can't write to disk and wont install..
[07:56] <wzman> 'course i probably did something wrong...lol
[07:56] <jontec> wzman: no. :D It really depends on the computer setup you have and what you want to do... most users do not find it "easy"
[07:57] <mjbrooks> wzman, it's not easier than windows, just better than windows    it's a fine line
[07:57] <wzman> how hard is it to set up with both ubuntu and windows?
[07:57] <mjbrooks> wzman, once you have it installed it's easier than windows  ;)
[07:58] <mjbrooks> wzman, dual boot?   simple
[07:58] <wzman> dual os?
[07:58] <OrTigaS> not much as hard, but sometimes confusing :)
[08:00] <wzman> well this being my first time checking it out and having used windows since dos 3.1.... seems much harder to me...
[08:00] <mjbrooks> OrTigaS, yeah,   God forbid one has to know what their hardware is
[08:00] <jontec> let me put it like this: deviating from the default setup will most likely give you problems. Also, do not expect all of your hardware (even peripherals sometimes) to work with ubuntu and linux in general
[08:00] <werdnativ> hey all, I'm trying to figure out how to set the mysql server charset encoding to utf8. There's a command line flag for it, but where to put it so it gets picked up by init.d ?
[08:00] <nu-> When i insert the CD and select "Install Ubuntu", and after the loading bars go across the screen a few times, i get /bin/sh Can't access tty: job control turned off
[08:00] <nu-> anyone know how to fix it?
[08:01] <jontec> nu-: general question what version? 6.06?, 6.10?
[08:01] <nu-> beta 7.04
[08:01] <OrTigaS> wzman: the best thing to do is back-up all yours data/file when you are trying to install Ubuntu in a working computer with other OS :)
[08:01] <jontec> heh. :D
[08:01] <jontec> nu-: join #ubuntu+1
[08:01] <nu-> thanks
[08:02] <OrTigaS> oh i'm downlading right now the FeistyPawn :)
[08:02] <nu-> When did ubuntu 6.10 come out? october 06?
[08:03] <wzman> thought it would be as simple as downloading file and using self extractor... no such luck...
[08:03] <jontec> !ntfs
[08:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:03] <OrTigaS> its very different things
[08:04] <OrTigaS> i did ntfs-3g very easy :)
[08:04] <bilss_> hi
[08:04] <jtholmes> nu: yes
[08:04] <wzman> can you look on cd like in windows and perhaps find java on there and extract from there and install?
[08:04] <jtholmes> nu:  releases  use  year month for release values
[08:04] <nu-> jtholmes: thank you
[08:05] <bonniecat> Excuse me...
[08:05] <bilss_> looking for a wmv player any suggestions
[08:05] <jontec> OrTigaS: well, my little brother's windwos computer is on the fritz... I think it's a virus... there's an autorun.inf that points to a malicious setup.exe file... the computer starts up and then restarts past the start up screen
[08:05] <nu-> jtholmes: do you know if it has the 8800gtx driver in it?
[08:05] <bonniecat> Can someone tell me which channel to go onto for general chat?
[08:05] <jontec> bliss_: i think you want vlc
[08:05] <bonniecat> VLC Media Player is not TOO bad....
[08:05] <jtholmes> nu: no i dont
[08:05] <bonniecat> i guess
[08:05] <jtholmes> nu: r u on linux now
[08:05] <bilss_> vlc does not play wmv files by default
[08:05] <nu-> jtholmes: no
[08:06] <jtholmes> nu: ok hold on and i will look
[08:06] <Madpilot> bonniecat, for general Ubuntu-flavoured chat, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:06] <nu-> jtholmes: thanks a bunch
[08:07] <Tom47> where do i put in a password for my nick in xchat gnome?
[08:07] <jtholmes> nu: a search of the modules directory yields no 8800gtx  file
[08:08] <nu-> jtholmes: alrighty then. thanks =]
[08:08] <jtholmes> nu: also the  kernel config has nothing
[08:08] <bilss_> what about xine
[08:08] <jtholmes> nu: have you searched google
[08:08] <Crazytom> Tom47,  you msg nickserv identify password
[08:08] <OrTigaS> ok.... i have a favorite site that i can run video streaming.... its fugly.com
[08:09] <nu-> jtholmes: no. 6.10 was released before the 8800gtx, so i don't expect it to have drivers in the installation CD. i'll just wait for 7.04
[08:09] <jtholmes> thats  /msg nickserv ....
[08:09] <OrTigaS> i run that before.. but when i upgrade to edgy it wont play anymore :)
[08:09] <Crazytom> didn't think i could type /msg
[08:09] <bonniecat> thx madpilot
[08:09] <wzman> well i thank you all (all that helped that is) for your help and patienence wish i could have fixed it but alas tonight grows old and the morn will be here much to soon..
[08:09] <jtholmes> nu: let me poke around in 7.04 and see if it is there
[08:10] <blahman> jtholmes, can see my pvt window
[08:10] <wzman> shall try again another time.... now what is proper way to leave?
[08:10] <nu-> jtholmes: soomeone said earlier that it was.
[08:11] <Tom47> Crazytom i was looking for the automatic signon way please
[08:11] <OrTigaS> is that 7.04 also live cd?
[08:11] <jtholmes> ok you can grab the daily build it is quite stable and load it up
[08:11] <OrTigaS> Tom47:  thats script from xchat
[08:12] <OrTigaS> try join #xchat
[08:12] <jtholmes> blahman: no you have to   /msg nickserv identify  password   first
[08:12] <Madpilot> Tom47, I know how to set it up in XChat, but XChat-Gnome is the crippled, mutant version of XChat...
[08:12] <Tom47> Madpilot oh
[08:12] <lcandell> vote sanjaya
[08:13] <jtholmes> what a cripled anything in Gnome  stallman would have a fit
[08:13] <jtholmes> surely u jest
[08:14] <jtholmes> blahman: i am on pvt chan
[08:14] <Tom47> brb
[08:15] <Tom47> dang too quick .... did it still show my ip address when i signed in please?
[08:15] <mjbrooks> Shaba1, any luck with the webcam?
[08:16] <humility> tom47<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:16] <Rich_li_ny> Tom:  yes.. showed ip addy
[08:17] <Tom47> humility ty
[08:19] <Epic720> I have a problem with a high pitched noise emanating from my computer.... I can't seem to resolve it.
[08:19] <humility> Tom47: how did you change to have: n=tom@unaffiliated/tom47
[08:20] <rinoboy> hello
[08:21] <Cosmo_> hmmm I downloaded the printer drivers for my printer from the brother site but I can not figure out how to install this, every time I try to install it through the package manager it gives me "mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/spool/lpd/FAX1840C': No such file or directory"
[08:21] <humility> I want to buy a computer for running Ubuntu
[08:21] <humility> What do you wise folk recommend?
[08:21] <Flannel> humility: system76 sells them
[08:22] <Flannel> !hardware | humility
[08:22] <ubotu> humility: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:22] <Flannel> humility: that's a good resource. google is probably your best
[08:22] <humility> thanks
[08:22] <rissy> hai
[08:23] <Ziandia> Hey Missionrulz :D
[08:23] <Missionrulz> hai2u
[08:23] <brian_> anyone been able to install keyring-pam on edgy?
[08:23] <Ziandia> Hey SkareCrow :D
[08:23] <foug> hi, i'm having some GUI and misc problems with ubuntu, would anyone like to help
[08:24] <andre_pl> exit
[08:24] <jtholmes> foug: what gui gnome or kde
[08:24] <foug> jtholmes: gnome
[08:25] <foug> i don't know if they are gui problems exactly...
[08:25] <Madpilot> foug, "some GUI and misc problems" is pretty vague. Be more specific, you'll be far more likely to get actual help...
[08:25] <foug> o, ok well
[08:25] <jtholmes> foug:  sorry i dont know much about it but ask the question and perhaps someone will hav the ans
[08:25] <foug> i tell my taskbar to not expand, but it never listens. It's always expanded. Also, anytime I restart my comp my two bars (taskbar and the bar with applications, system, places) never stay where i put them. And i have to go through hell getting them back toi where they were
[08:26] <foug> also, I don't think my memory monitor works correctly. It never changes either
[08:26] <FJimbo> I'm using XChat, and It's not showing me a userlist.  Does anybody have any ideas why not?
[08:26] <foug> Other times, all my Windows will kind of flicker. Like when I alt tab or sometimes log on
[08:26] <jtholmes> foug: just off the top of my head sounds like you are not locking the icons however that is done
[08:26] <Flannel> FJimbo: because you don't have "xchat" you have "xchat-gnome" which... does some stuff differently.  Xchat is in universe, if you want it
[08:27] <jtholmes> foug: that is why they keep moving
[08:27] <foug> jtholmes: and what about my taskbar? how can i make it stay not expanded? it's unchecked and everything
[08:27] <jtholmes> foug: as for the task bar here agian sounds like you are not saving your changes however that is doen
[08:27] <FJimbo> I should check that out.  I just did apt-get xchat
[08:27] <FJimbo> and this is what it gave me.
[08:27] <foug> jtholmes: i am trust me, it works sometimes, other times it doesn't. It's completly random
[08:27] <FJimbo> I think anyway...
[08:28] <Tom47> humility i own a nick and put in my password ... but i a trying to find how to make that automatic ... i did have it set ok b4 i upgraded to feisty
[08:28] <jtholmes> foug: oh those kinds are the MOST fun!!!
[08:28] <foug> lol
[08:29] <foug> I just want everything to work. So far i'm not impressed with linux
[08:29] <jtholmes> foug: sorry i cant help more i am a kde man
[08:29] <foug> See, my music player (Eviale) just changed song, and all my windows flickered
[08:29] <brian_> anyone here connect via wireless w/ security (wep, wpa, wpa2)?
[08:29] <foug> someone earlier said it might be terminal issues?
[08:29] <jtholmes> foug: well if this is your first look at linux then get the  Kde  version
[08:29] <jtholmes> foug: actually you can change desktops to kde
[08:29] <humility> wasn't wep cracked badly
[08:29] <foug> jtholmes: is there a way to switch to KDE from Gnome without having to install Kubuntu?
[08:29] <brian_> sounds like a video card driver issue
[08:30] <foug> brian_: think so?
[08:30] <foug> what's the diff between KDE and Gnome?
[08:30] <brian_> yes.. which is why i use wpa2 =)
[08:30] <jtholmes> foug: yes but the method of doing so eludes me at the moment
[08:30] <foug> jtholmes: doh
[08:30] <mjbrooks> foug, I agree, flickering is definately a video card driver issue
[08:30] <Tom47> ok guys ty seem to have that right now
[08:31] <brian_> anyway.. everytime after i login, it asks me for a default password to unlock the keyring where the wireless AP key is stored.  anyway to prevent it from asking for keyring unlock password everytime i login?
[08:31] <foug> how would i go about installing my video card drivers? i know it's complicated isn't it?
[08:31] <mjbrooks> foug, depends on the vid card ;)
[08:31] <mapez> foug
[08:31] <lloy0076> I'm attempting to find an NFS Server that's compatible with Ubuntu Linux but apt-cache search nfs shows no server, and apt-cache search portmap returns nothing.
[08:31] <mapez> foug, what card
[08:31] <foug> EVGA 6800 GS
[08:31] <lloy0076> I think I'm using Ubuntu Edgy.
[08:32] <foug> ok, i just changed to a diff song in my playlist
[08:32] <mapez> foug, if your on feisty sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:32] <brian_> try installing nvidia-glx f
[08:32] <Flannel> brian_: Once you upgrade to feisty, theres a package that does just that. http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/
[08:32] <foug> and my taskbar moved above my other panel, this is so annoying. It makes me thinks switching to Ubuntu was a complete waste of time. I never had problems like this in windows
[08:32] <foug> mapez: nope, 6.10. I thought fiesty wasn't out yet?
[08:32] <mjbrooks> !nvidia > foug
[08:33] <gordonjcp> lloy0076: you're not looking hard enough ;-)
[08:33] <gordonjcp> lloy0076:  apt-cache search nfs | grep server
[08:33] <mapez> foug, its a beta, but still 'stable' in my opinion.. The switch wont be a waste of time once you get used to it.. And that command I gave you should work with 6.10
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[08:33] <brian_> Flannel: thanks for that.  guess i'll just wait a couple weeks until feisty is released
[08:33] <MrMakeveli> 19th?
[08:34] <foug> why won't ctrl+c copy stuff for me?
[08:34] <Flannel> brian_: you can compile it for edgy and stff, but that'll cause issues once you upgrad.  probably easier to just wait, yeah.
[08:34] <foug> k mapez i'm doing what ya told me to, it's doing it's thing
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[08:34] <brian_> great, thnks again
[08:34] <bimberi> !nfs | lloy0076
[08:34] <ubotu> lloy0076: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:35] <lloy0076> gordonjcp: http://www.pastebin.ca/434098
[08:35] <MrMakeveli> i like hanging out here
[08:35] <foug> What aobut my memory monitor not working?
[08:35] <MrMakeveli> i miss the old irc days
[08:35] <foug> what could that be?
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[08:36] <zyth> what the heck
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[08:36] <lloy0076> I can actually write .deb packages and I rolled a distro based on PGI a few years ago for my personal enjoyment. I'm not asking how to use apt or search, but I'm just wondering what sources I might need to find nfs-kernel-server...
[08:36] <mjbrooks> foug, probably not configured correctly
[08:36] <mapez> Foug, I have to go to bed but that will install your nvidia drivers.
[08:36] <foug> mapez: allright cool, thanks man
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[08:36] <foug> mjbrooks: ahh
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[08:36] <mapez> foug, ctrl alt backspace will restart x
[08:36] <foug> x?
[08:36] <brian_> so servers going down for a couple hours apparently?
[08:36] <MrMakeveli> boooo
[08:36] <mjbrooks> so it seems
[08:36] <brian_> weird
[08:36] <humility> /server msg 1
[08:37] <MrMakeveli> another channel?
[08:37] <humility> ?
[08:37] <foug> let's go to an undernet server and make this channel imo
[08:37] <foug> is anyone really good with gaim?
[08:37] <mapez> foug, its the windowing stuff.. I guess you could say
[08:37] <foug> mapez: o
[08:37] <humility> gaim isn't even called gaim anymore
[08:37] <foug> what is it
[08:37] <MrMakeveli> you seen pigin yet?
[08:37] <mapez> pidgin lol, im out of here
[08:37] <MrMakeveli> they have a screenshot out
[08:38] <foug> i've been using it since .53 and it's always been gaim
[08:38] <humility> Pidgin or something like that
[08:38] <MrMakeveli> gaim was kind of misleading as a name anyways
[08:38] <MrMakeveli> everyone thinks its just an aim client
[08:38] <mjbrooks> MrMakeveli, they had the name first
[08:38] <MrMakeveli> pidgin fits
[08:38] <MrMakeveli> i know!
[08:38] <MrMakeveli> aol copyrighted it after
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> "AIM" anyways
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> ist a shame
[08:39] <brian_> trillian needs to make a linux version =)
[08:39] <humility> they trademarked not copyrighted aim
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> haha trillian was always too resource hoggy for me
[08:39] <mjbrooks> brian_, Kopete is pretty decent
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> i think gaim is put together relatively well
[08:39] <Xaquseg> trillian is glitchy
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> once i got rid of the padding on my blist
[08:39] <Xaquseg> i tried using it for a week or so, had a number of problems
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> and took away the huge fuckin icons
[08:39] <brian_> yeah, it works fine.  might have to look at kopete, thx for that
[08:39] <MrMakeveli> it was nice
[08:40] <jenda> MrMakeveli: please do keep the language friendly.
[08:40] <MrMakeveli> whoops, excuse me
[08:40] <MrMakeveli> i tried trillian for a week or so
[08:40] <MrMakeveli> same kinda thing
[08:40] <foug> well, i want to switch to an earlier version of gaim.  Was use to having small tabs for 6 years
[08:43] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: how many is that tonight
[08:43] <MrMakeveli> you should send in these lil things to gaim
[08:43] <MrMakeveli> they may actually listen
[08:43] <foug> i doubt it
[08:43] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, not enough
[08:44] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, rough day
[08:44] <Xaquseg> could probably change it with a plugin
[08:44] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: is is 12P midnight here where you at
[08:44] <Xaquseg> or a simple source patch
[08:44] <MrMakeveli> yeah shouldnt be too tough
[08:44] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, hosed a cops computer and had to scramble to fix it
[08:44] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: sound exciting
[08:45] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, yep,  but it's 3am where I'm from  ;)
[08:45] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: ooh that hurts
[08:45] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, eh,   I'd be up programming anyway
[08:46] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: waht language
[08:46] <MrMakeveli> iono the more i use gaim the more i like it
[08:46] <foug> does anyone use Exaile?
[08:46] <MrMakeveli> im looking forward to pidgin 2.0.0
[08:46] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, perl and java mostly
[08:46] <MrMakeveli> it looks a lot sleeker
[08:47] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: is do some perl no java use to do  c and c++
[08:47] <foug> is there a way to install my sound card drivers similar to the way i did vid card drivers? with the command sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:47] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: and i work for sun
[08:47] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, I did C a looooooooooooong time ago
[08:47] <mbt> MrMakeveli, the only problem that I have with "Pidgin" is remembering the name.  I have used GAIM for so long that it's kind of burned in my memory.  At least it's not as bad as, say, Linux changing names to something else.
[08:47] <jtholmes> mjbrooks: shame on me
[08:47] <mjbrooks> jtholmes, I've been meaning to get back to it ;)
[08:47] <titun> what tool here people use to replace dreamweaver for HTML/CSS?
[08:48] <foug> titun: gedit, bluefish
[08:48] <titun> I installed NVU , bluefish and
[08:48] <foug> is there a way to install my sound card drivers similar to the way i did vid card drivers? with the command sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:48] <bimberi> !html
[08:48] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[08:48] <Madpilot> titun, Bluefish or Screem - after you learn actual HTML/CSS coding, that is.
[08:48] <mbt> foug, what is your sound card?
[08:49] <titun> Madpilot, I know 50% if HTMl & CSS, so no problem using bluefish
[08:49] <foug> creative labs sound blaster 16 PCI 4.1
[08:49] <brian_> VIM
[08:49] <mjbrooks> !sound | foug
[08:49] <ubotu> foug: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:49] <titun> Madpilot, but it lacks the feature which dreamweaver shows tags in a popup menu
[08:49] <Madpilot> titun, cool - try Screem too, it's not as well known, but it has some very nice features that Bluefish lacks
[08:49] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i know gaim was so easy to say too
[08:50] <zyth> Madpilot, I like NVU
[08:50] <MrMakeveli> mbt: but still, the name is more fitting this time around
[08:50] <foug> mjbrooks: mmm i was hoping for a command similar to how i installed vid card drivers
[08:50] <titun> Madpilot, humm....heard about screem yesteraday, does it have the display all possible tags feature?
[08:51] <Madpilot> titun, kind of, there's one sidebar that can list tags, and they can be dragged into the active document.
[08:51] <titun> Madpilot, like DW displays, if if type" a and then it shows all possible things
[08:51] <mbt> foug, SB16 should work.  Also look to check that the volume isn't muted or anything like that.  I find that sometimes, playing an Ogg or MP3 helps me to find out what settings are reasonable when adjusting it for the first time.
[08:51] <titun> Madpilot, but no auto popup?
[08:51] <nocturn> Hi all
[08:52] <Crazytom> foug, do you have anything working in ubuntu?  are you sure you installed it?  lol
[08:52] <brian_> lol
[08:52] <foug> mbt: well my sound is kind of shitty so i think i need to install the drivers somehow. What I really need is a good player with an equalizer. Everything I have tried sucks
[08:52] <titun> Madpilot, coz I myself don't know all the tags of HTML, so that was a good feature for me in DW
[08:52] <nocturn> How can I join a room on another server with Gajim?
[08:52] <foug> Crazytom: i'm just having a lot of bs problems, kind of dissappointing
[08:52] <Madpilot> titun, it's got some auto-popup features too - start typing, for example, <a href and it'll offer to autocomplete the href="" part
[08:52] <brian_> when i plug in my soundblaster audigy pcmcia card in my notebook, ubuntu automatically recognizes it, loads ddrivers, etc.
[08:52] <titun> Madpilot, yes thts what I was asking about, thanks , downloading right now
[08:53] <Crazytom> i helped you with wireless the other day now it's video and sound you aren't having the best time are you?
[08:53] <Crazytom> nocturn, just type /join #roomname
[08:53] <Crazytom> nocturn, if it doesn't exist it will be made
[08:53] <nocturn> Crazytom: Gajim is a jabber client
[08:53] <nocturn> I want to use MUC
[08:53] <mbt> foug, XMMS has a WinAmp style interface if you want to use an equalizer with your music.  What is wrong with the sound?
[08:53] <foug> Crazytom: no, did you read about my ui problems earlier? lol
[08:53] <Crazytom> oh sorry
[08:54] <VerTiGo> Ummm i am new to Ubuntu Linux, and for some reason Gaim and Firefox arnt working
[08:54] <nocturn> Thanks Crazytom
[08:54] <MrMakeveli> vertigo: whats the problem?
[08:54] <foug> mbt: it just doesn't sound crystal, or equalized. I've tried XMMS, Audacious, Beep, Exiale
[08:54] <foug> mbt: i used foobar when i used windows and so far nothing comes to close to being as good as foobar
[08:54] <VerTiGo> I try and go to a link on firefox and it hangs on connecting to www.watevalink i have typed.com
[08:54] <MrMakeveli> foug: have you tried amarok? a lot of people swear by it
[08:54] <brian_> VerTiGo: can you ping external sites? open a terminal and type "ping google.com"
[08:55] <VerTiGo> yes
[08:55] <mjbrooks> foug, I like amarok
[08:55] <foug> MrMakeveli: yea tried that too, couldn't get mp3 support to work at the time but i think i got it working, should try to redownload now that you mention it
[08:55] <brian_> behind a proxy server or firewall or anything?
[08:55] <MrMakeveli> amarok is kinda crazy for me, but it has a TON of shiz going for it
[08:55] <MrMakeveli> mp3 works fine for me
[08:55] <brian_> j
[08:55] <foug> I just need a NICE NICE NICE equalizer and tabs
[08:55] <Rich_li_ny> How do you download and install VESA drivers from a system prompt (using 6.10)?
[08:55] <foug> atleast a 16+ header equalizer is what I'm looking for
[08:55] <MrMakeveli> foug: amarok is a whole music EXPERIENCE
[08:55] <sishgupta> amaroks equalizer is pretty good imo
[08:55] <MrMakeveli> hahah
[08:55] <VerTiGo> I have a Router but yet other third party progs i have on the computer get onto the internet
[08:56] <VerTiGo> Its just Firefox and Gaim i am having troubles with
[08:56] <foug> does ubuntu have a repair service? maybe that would fix my problems
[08:56] <foug> because my windows are still flashing
[08:57] <Rich_li_ny> Vertigo:  If your not able to get to teh page maybe there is a problem with yoru DNS lookups?   I changed mine to Open DNS
[08:57] <mjbrooks> foug, you install the nvidia driver?
[08:57] <foug> mjbrooks: yup
[08:57] <MrMakeveli> for amarok, the only problem i really had is that double clicking always added files to the queue instead of just playing
[08:57] <mbt> MrMakeveli, yeah.  I have heard people tell me that AmaroK is one application that is worth installing the KDE libs for.  Personally, Rhythmbox does what I need pretty well, at least until all of the good Internet Radio stations go away.
[08:57] <jtholmes> VerTiGo: does the perferences -> advancde -> network -> setting  say  direct connect to internet
[08:57] <brian_> VerTiGo: in firefox, edit->preferences, advanced, network tab, click settings ... make sure "direct connection" is selected
[08:57] <jtholmes> VerTiGo: in firefox that is
[08:57] <quabug> does amarok have any lyrice script like miniLyrice?
[08:57] <foug> MrMakeveli: are you serious, that's horrible. I hate linux, lol
[08:57] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i actually use rhythmbox as my default
[08:57] <mjbrooks> foug,  you type nvidia-xconfig in a terminal?
[08:58] <variant> I wonder if ubuntu will be including debian 4's encryption support
[08:58] <brian_> jtholmes took the words right out of my mouth ;)
[08:58] <foug> mjbrooks: no let me try
[08:58] <MrMakeveli> quabug: its suppose to have some lyric support i believe, although i havent tried myself
[08:58] <brian_> rhythmbox rox
[08:58] <foug> mjbrooks: error
[08:58] <mjbrooks> what error?
[08:58] <MrMakeveli> doesnt rhythmbox have lyric support as well? i tried the plugin but havent tested
[08:58] <jtholmes> brian_ yep we both thought about that one simul
[08:59] <jtholmes> brian_: cant help him with gaim though
[08:59] <MrMakeveli> anyone using amarok in here know off the top of their head how to change the double-click to PLAY instead of add to queue?
[08:59] <brian_> me neither, no ideas on the gaim part
[08:59] <MrMakeveli> i think i would still use rhythmbox anyways
[08:59] <foug> Amarok has a small equalizer, only 10 headers
[08:59] <MrMakeveli> amarok is a lotta stuff
[08:59] <variant> MrMakeveli: or add to que and play?
[08:59] <brian_> banshee is good also
[08:59] <MrMakeveli> variant: i want to just double click to play, no que'ing
[09:00] <variant> MrMakeveli: dunno
[09:00] <jack_> hello
[09:00] <MrMakeveli> thats probably the reason i started using rhythmbox over amarok
[09:00] <MrMakeveli> @var*
[09:00] <variant> MrMakeveli: if you use the playlist to play your tracks instead of the context browser..
[09:00] <MrMakeveli> variant: i would want to play a song, and i would just start que'ing up stuff
[09:01] <foug> yea amarok sucks, worst program ever
[09:01] <variant> foug: trolls are not welcome here
[09:01] <hans> Is it true that iso-8859-15 is identical to iso-8859-1 except for the  symbol?
[09:01] <mbt> MrMakeveli, For me, the reason that I use Rhythmbox is because it integrates with GNOME really well.  I don't like mixing and matching applications from different desktop environments unless I have to.
[09:01] <VerTiGo> Yes it say Direct Connection to Internet but yet it still hangs on Connecting to www.google.com
[09:01] <ShaLaptop> Hello, i have a problem with my Xclient script, after i entered my login and password, my desktop don't load at all, i can just see the cursor of my mouse and a blue wallpaper
[09:01] <alexicon> ive got gnome issues. themes not loading right. its all patchy looking. fonts not updating
[09:01] <foug> variant: i'm more of a lurker/noob asking for help 24/7 lol
[09:01] <alexicon> ive tried removing all the .gnome .gconf files
[09:01] <brian_> mbt: agreed
[09:01] <alexicon> and still it wont reset properly
[09:02] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i know what ya mean. did i get KDE stuff installed by default? cause i dont remember asking for that stuff
[09:02] <foug> does rhythem box not have an equalizer?
[09:02] <brian_> VerTiGo: you using dhcp?
[09:02] <jscinoz> Hey everyone, i just installed my wireless card with ndiswrapper, its showing hardware present, driver present. If i go under networking it shows both wlan0 and wmaster, what is wmaster?
[09:02] <VerTiGo> yes
[09:02] <brian_> VerTiGo: try this just for the heck of it from terminal "sudo dhclient"
[09:02] <alexicon> anyone here offer theme help??
[09:02] <variant> brian_: you might want to add on eth0 to that.. or whatever
[09:02] <alexicon> is there a complete list of gnome dotfiles somewhere
[09:02] <foug> does anyone know how to make my taskbar show icons only and not text?
[09:03] <alexicon> this is gnome, i dont think theres a choice in the taskbar
[09:03] <foug> do you use KDE?
[09:03] <variant> alexicon: ls -al ~/ | grep .
[09:03] <jscinoz> what is the wmaster device under networking?
[09:03] <alexicon> cheers variant
[09:03] <hans> Anyone using locale *.iso885915 here?
[09:03] <VerTiGo> OK just done sudo dhclient now wat?
[09:03] <brian_> VerTiGo: try firefox again
[09:04] <alexicon> um variant that just shows all the dotfiles i have. which are gnome
[09:04] <biglibigli> i have a problem on my arabic keyboard
[09:04] <brian_> VerTiGo: and your connected to this irc on the same box that firefox doesnt work??
[09:04] <bicycledaave> hi all, when I start xterm, for several seconds Xorg will eat up more than 98% cpu, hence machine doesn't respond. why ? thanks
[09:04] <titun> Madpilot, Thank you soooo much....... this screem is what I exactly needed, now I can show off my friends some webpages designed using OpenSource softwares, it was a challange for me
[09:04] <biglibigli> it must connect some characters together but don't do it
[09:04] <VerTiGo> same problem
[09:04] <VerTiGo> no not on the same computer
[09:04] <Sir_Skeleton> hey all
[09:05] <alexicon> does anyone have an issue with gnome themes
[09:05] <variant> VerTiGo: is it an ethernet connection?
[09:05] <VerTiGo> yes
[09:05] <titun> Madpilot, my friends think I am craxy using Ubuntu leaving XP
[09:05] <variant> VerTiGo: what does ifconfig eth0 say, does it include an ip address?
[09:05] <brian_> VerTiGo: ok, so what are some internet apps that _do_ work?
[09:05] <variant> VerTiGo: also, are you connected via a router?
[09:05] <titun> Madpilot, I am constantly trying to show them I can do all the stuff that can be done in Windows, and even better, thanks for helping in my misson
[09:06] <mbt> alexicon, What seems to be the problem with the themes?
[09:06] <Madpilot> titun, I think my friends are crazy for sticking with XP - every time one of them complains about adware/viruses/etc I just point out that those things aren't a problem in Linux :)
[09:06] <biglibigli> where can i find rules on keyboard characters.?
[09:06] <hw__> Anyone knows wether there is an option for xorg to be a bit more verbose in Xorg.0.log?
[09:06] <mjbrooks> titun, people thought galileo was crazy for thinking the earth revolved around the sun
[09:06] <alexicon> mbt: theyre well patchy. fonts wont update on taskbar and meny. theres a bunch of white mixed in with this dark grey theme
[09:07] <alexicon> but hang on. i found more dotfiles i can try and delete
[09:07] <titun> mjbrooks, righto...can't agree better :-)
[09:07] <Rich_li_ny> Titon: I have Xp on only one machine now.. thank God.. and soon that will have linux on it as well :)
[09:07] <zurita> #ubuntu-es
[09:07] <mbt> alexicon, Is this a theme that you installed yourself, or is it one of the default system-provided themes?
[09:07] <hans> keyboard characters is defined by files in /usr/share/keymaps
[09:07] <VerTiGo> well Wolf ET works, Wesnoth just ur basic games, And yes i am connected via router the router is a DLINK DSL-G604T
[09:07] <alexicon> mbt: its from art.gnome.org
[09:08] <variant> VerTiGo: do websites not load at all or do you get an error message?
[09:08] <alexicon> mbt: i think my issue is. my home dir is the same between ubuntu and suse. and its confusing my suse gnome stuff maybe. i need to weed it all out cos i dont use suse anymore
[09:08] <mbt> alexicon, Hrm.  Why don't you give me the link, and I'll see if it works for me or not.
[09:08] <alexicon> ok
[09:08] <VerTiGo> I get the error message on fire fox with : www.google.com is taking too long to respond
[09:09] <variant> VerTiGo: strange.. have you tried other sites?
[09:09] <mbt> alexicon, What I have done in the past is back up the directory and put it in old-home in my new system, and then let the system re-create the configuration files.  That might be helpful to you.
[09:09] <VerTiGo> yes
[09:09] <variant> VerTiGo: and?
[09:09] <VerTiGo> same problem
[09:09] <variant> VerTiGo: ok
[09:09] <brian_> VerTiGo: try this ==> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:09] <variant> brian_: git, was about to say that
[09:09] <variant> :)
[09:09] <alexicon> yeah cheers mbt thats what i tried. but i think i missed out a bunch of gtk dotfiles. will try moving everything again
[09:09] <brian_> :)
[09:09] <Sir_Skeleton> i just got back online on xp after a Huge crash that took out several key files. im planning on dual booting ubuntu and xp form now on, xp for games and ubuntu for school. i was wondering severel things... will i be able to transfer my open office documents from xp to ubuntu? will i be able to run beryl on it? and what kind of problems i may have with printers
[09:10] <Sir_Skeleton> sorry for the lengh and noob stuff
[09:10] <VerTiGo> got me straight to google
[09:10] <VerTiGo> Ty
[09:10] <variant> Sir_Skeleton: check linuxprinting.org for printer info and yes to the other 2 things
[09:10] <brian_> VerTiGo: you have a dns problem
[09:10] <alexicon> mbt: its this theme http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1271
[09:10] <Sir_Skeleton> ty
[09:10] <variant> VerTiGo: that means that you have not got your dns settings right
[09:10] <variant> VerTiGo: does your router provide dns?
[09:10] <mbt> alexicon, Alright, give me a minute here.
[09:10] <VerTiGo> wat u mean
[09:10] <variant> VerTiGo: type cat /etc/resolve.con
[09:11] <variant> VerTiGo: type cat /etc/resolve.conf
[09:11] <alexicon> cheers mbt much appreciated
[09:11] <variant> VerTiGo: there should be a couple of ip addresses in there
[09:11] <mbt> alexicon, It seems to work for me.  Do you have all of the GTK2 theme engines installed?
[09:11] <jtholmes> VerTiGo: /etc/resolv.conf   no  e
[09:12] <variant> VerTiGo: yes, excuse me.. there is no e there :)
[09:12] <alexicon> nope mbt, i tried installing a few through apt, and i dont see them in theme.. got a bunch of errors when trying to add gtk engines.. file format not supported stuff
[09:12] <biglibigli> how can i define key combination? on keyboard
[09:12] <Rich_li_ny> VerTiZGo:  What type and model router do you have?
[09:12] <VerTiGo> DSL G604T
[09:13] <mbt> alexicon, try this from a terminal:  sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-.*
[09:13] <variant> VerTiGo: that router runs linux :P
[09:13] <brian_> VerTiGo: copy/paste your output from "cat /etc/resolv.conf" as variant suggested
[09:13] <Rich_li_ny> A D Link product>?
[09:13] <VerTiGo> yea Dlink
[09:13] <VerTiGo> bbs
[09:13] <alexicon> whoa mbt thats a lot of stuff. im running out of space so i'll just try to install one of the themes
[09:13] <VerTiGo> Be back later actually
[09:14] <VerTiGo> 7pm AEST
[09:14] <variant> cya
[09:14] <brian_> good luck
[09:14] <Rich_li_ny> Vertigio: .. One sec.. gonna find some screen shots of your router if I can.
[09:14] <mbt> alexicon, Yes, there are 22 packages to install, but that will most likely fix your problem.  How much space do you have free on your root partition?
[09:14] <mjbrooks> wait a sec, wasn' Vertigo saying he could get firefox to work?
[09:15] <alexicon> 900mb mbt
[09:15] <MrMakeveli> whats this i hear about maximum amount of partitions?
[09:15] <kattie> can anyone help me deal with mysql?
[09:15] <brian_> kattie: sure, what you having problems with?
[09:15] <mjbrooks> MrMakeveli, there's an upper limit to what your BIOS can do
[09:16] <kattie> brian thanks, I just began my new life with Linux, I want to use mysql files which I was using in Windows
[09:16] <mbt> alexicon, you should be fine installing those pieces of software then.  Basically, those theme engines provide functionality for various things from things like art.gnome. and gnomelook.
[09:16] <kattie> brian but I can't restore this data
[09:16] <MrMakeveli> mjbrooks: i thought i heard something like 4 or was it 9?
[09:16] <jarrett> are there any good open source mmorpgs?
[09:16] <brian_> are you just copying the data files (*.myi, *.myd) over directly?
[09:16] <kattie> brian I used RESTORE db FROM path
[09:17] <tuxgeek> Shaba1: Hello . amitsaha here
[09:17] <MrMakeveli> i think i want to do a partition for my ~/
[09:17] <kattie> brian not directly
[09:17] <tuxgeek> Shaba1: Is your problem solved?
[09:17] <jochus> is there a way to configure ssh that it doesn't use known_hosts?
[09:17] <mjbrooks> MrMakeveli, it's not specifif to linux, but it's something like 12
[09:17] <jochus> I want it to be disabled?
[09:17] <MrMakeveli> hmm i wonder what i was reading
[09:17] <brian_> kattie: haven't tried that particular command.
[09:17] <kattie> brian I also tried to copied directly like that, but the folder is locked
[09:17] <MrMakeveli> i swear it was in my ubuntu bible or something
[09:18] <rausb0> jochus: ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no ...
[09:18] <MrMakeveli> it didnt really seem to make sense though, maybe i just misread
[09:18] <brian_> kattie: how big is your DB?  if it's not too big you can do an export via something like phpMyAdmin and it generates a SQL script you can load into your new installation.
[09:18] <jochus> rausb0: thnx, gonna try it
[09:18] <mjbrooks> tuxgeek, Shaba1 is in the wind it seems
[09:18] <mbt> mjbrooks, MrMakeveli, there is a limit of 4 primary partitions, and IIRC, 16 logical partitions PCs that do not use EFI partitions.  Since the logical partitions live inside of a primary partition on the PC, that is a limit of 19 partitions in total.
[09:18] <jamesbrose> is it just me or is security.ubuntu.com really slow?
[09:19] <MrMakeveli> mbt: what defines a primary partition?
[09:19] <kattie> brian its about 200mb
[09:19] <mjbrooks> mbt, right,  knew it was something like that,  just couldn't think of how many logicals
[09:19] <MrMakeveli> i read it somewhere but i dont remember
[09:19] <kattie> brian but this is very very important data for my research
[09:19] <alexicon> ok
[09:19] <alexicon> cool thanks mbt
[09:20] <MrMakeveli> mj, mbt: that was my problem, glazed over it too quick haha
[09:20] <MrMakeveli> i knew i didnt pull that 4 outta no where
[09:20] <Schalken> does anyone know where the sessions are stored?
[09:20] <mbt> MrMakeveli, BIOS partitions are "primary" partitions.  Those are the partitions that are defined in the MBR on the drive.  The logical partitions (which live in a primary one) have their own table.
[09:20] <tuxgeek> gnomefreak: Hi
[09:21] <tuxgeek> gnomefreak: GNOME developer?
[09:21] <mbt> Incidentally, the PC partitioning scheme is a relatively broken one that was introduced, if I am not mistaken, by that wonderful company in Redmond.
[09:21] <brian_> kattie: something that large copying files directly is your best bet.  not sure what you meant by the folder being locked.  otherwise you might look at mysqldump ( http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqldump.html )
[09:21] <mbt> alexicon, No problem.
[09:21] <mjbrooks> mbt, hence why it's broken  ;)
[09:22] <MrMakeveli> mbt: let me ask you this: i have a 160 gb hd. if i do a couple partitions primary folders in the root, would those all be logical?
[09:22] <kattie> brian should I begin it from Windows?
[09:23] <mjbrooks> MrMakeveli, you can have 4 primary partitions,   after that you have to use the logical ones
[09:23] <jontec> on installing ntfs-3g... I get an error with fuse-config.... T_T it won't install or uninstall...
[09:23] <mbt> It appears that nowadays there is no hard limit on the number of logical partitions, so my information might be a little bit out of date, MrMakeveli.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Types_of_partitions which talks about them.
[09:23] <jtholmes> Schalken: for kde
[09:23] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i'll look that over and see if i have any questions
[09:23] <mjbrooks> mbt, not completely out of date,   it's still only 4 primary ;)
[09:23] <brian_> kattie: yes in windows you should create a dump of your tables, then import it into your linux server with something like "mysql db_name < backupfile.sql"
[09:23] <mbt> MrMakeveli, When you need 4 partitions or less, you can use all primary partitions.  When you need 5 or more partitions, some of them are going to be logical partitions.  Which ones those are can be arbitrarily picked by you.
[09:24] <Schalken> jtholmes: for gnome. were not in #kubuntu
[09:24] <Rich_li_ny> Vertigo: Go to http://<IP_ADDRESS> and enter your router password, Click WAN button on left, Type in OpenDNS in the "Primary DNS address" and "Secondary DNS address" , Click Apply, Click "Continue< and reboot your router.
[09:24] <brian_> kattie: however since your DB is fairly large, not sure if it'll work otherwise it might just take a long time
[09:24] <jtholmes> Schalken: then no
[09:24] <Schalken> lol
[09:24] <kattie> brian thanks anyway, I'll try it with windows
[09:25] <brian_> kattie: a mysql channel/newsgroup would probably be able to help better since this is more of a generic channel for ubuntu.
[09:25] <brian_> kattie: ok, good luck!
[09:25] <MrMakeveli> mbt: but is the only difference that the primary ones are the filesystems and the logical ones are just division of sectors?
[09:25] <mbt> mjbrooks, Yeah.  That's a hard limit imposed by the format of the MBR.  IIRC, the extended partition limitations were something I last ran into back in the days of MS-DOS.  I haven't needed that many partitions since, so it's not surprising that it changed.
[09:26] <MrMakeveli> mbt: because when i did partitions before, dont you define them as a certain filesystem, thus making them all primary ones and limiting you to 4?
[09:27] <mbt> MrMakeveli, The only real difference is that the BIOS knows how to talk to one set, and the other set is talked to by operating systems who follow a convention.  The concept is the same; for example, when you have four primary partitions with one of them being of type "Extended," the extended partitions are merely regular partitions "inside of" the fourth BIOS/MBR partition.
[09:27] <bigmb> silly question, how do I use the terminal to see what video card I have?
[09:27] <mbt> MrMakeveli, You can define the type of partition regardless of whether or not it is a primary or extended one.  There are 255 possible partition types on x86/x86-64 systems that don't use the EFI standard.
[09:28] <mjbrooks> bigmb, type lspci
[09:28] <bigmb> mjbrooks: Display controller: Intel Corporation 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[09:28] <bigmb>  -- is that it?
[09:28] <mbt> MrMakeveli, For example, there are partitions that are of type Linux and type "Linux swap."  The Linux partitions can hold any filesystem that Linux can understand (be that ext2, ext3, ext4, reiserfs3, reiserfs4, xfs, jfs, etc.).
[09:29] <user_____> hi
[09:29] <MrMakeveli> mbt: yeah i get all that, and i know a lil about the different filesystems that linux uses
[09:29] <MrMakeveli> mbt: but i guess im still not undrestanding the applicable difference
[09:29] <mjbrooks> bigmb, yup,  you have an Intel ideo chipset
[09:29] <user_____> i get this message
[09:29] <user_____> user@4029c4s22:~$ sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:29] <user_____> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 11 10:10:46 2007
[09:30] <MrMakeveli> mbt: ok lets do a quick example
[09:30] <user_____> can't edit my network interface .. can anyone help?
[09:30] <mbt> MrMakeveli, k.  There is no real difference.  The extended partitions were a way to work around the BIOS limitation of 4 partitions, because that limit quickly becomes impractical when you're running a Unix-like system.
[09:30] <rausb0> bigmb: yes, you have a i915G graphics card
[09:30] <rausb0> bigmb: use the i810 Xorg driver for it
[09:31] <MrMakeveli> mbt: hmm. for linux, there is no specific extended right?
[09:31] <MrMakeveli> mbt: any partition i make for any filesystem doesnt have to be a primary right?
[09:31] <bigmb> thanks you two :)
[09:32] <MrMakeveli> !topic
[09:32] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[09:32] <mbt> MrMakeveli, Linux follows the same convention as all other PC operating systems.  No, there is no requirements as to what needs to be primary and what needs to be logical.
[09:32] <user_____> anyone know the password for   su ?? i installed  ubuntu 6.10 from desktop distribution
[09:32] <mbt> MrMakeveli, Unless, that is, you're running Windows.  Then it must be installed on a primary partition, no ands, ifs, or buts.  :)
[09:32] <MrMakeveli> mbt: but the original/first must be primary right?
[09:32] <jontec> user_____: there is no password
[09:32] <user_____> so how do i use su?
[09:32] <jontec> user_____: use sudo
[09:32] <mbt> user_____, "su" is disabled by default, because the root account is locked.
[09:33] <user_____> cause sudo doesn't work propperly
[09:33] <MrMakeveli> mbt: and is there any advantage to using a primary over a logical?
[09:33] <user_____> i get an error message.. kind of..
[09:33] <jontec> user_____: use sudo su to get in and supply *your* password
[09:33] <ShaLaptop>  Hello, i have a problem with my Xclient script, after i entered my login and password, my desktop don't load at all, i can just see the cursor of my mouse and a blue wallpaper
[09:33] <MrMakeveli> mbt: im just wondering if it might be treated differently, even if they are theoretically the same
[09:33] <user_____> user@4029c4s22:~$ sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <user_____> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 11 10:10:46 2007
[09:33] <mbt> MrMakeveli, No, there is no advantages to one over the other.
[09:33] <user_____> user@4029c4s22:~$ sudo su
[09:33] <user_____> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 11 10:10:46 2007
[09:33] <ShaLaptop> i can start my session only with "gnome" and not "xclient script"
[09:34] <tuxgeek> ShaLaptop: what about gdm?
[09:34] <ShaLaptop> someone know how i can fix that pleae
[09:34] <user_____> i need to change date?
[09:34] <mbt> user_____, That is caused by the clock being adjusted backwards after sudo being used.  Try resetting the clock (using the BIOS) to a time after that timestamp, and then using it again.
[09:34] <user_____> so change time in BIOS?
[09:34] <ShaLaptop> tuxgeek: when i put my name and my password, nothing load, i stay stuck on an empty screen
[09:34] <sgtmattbaker> Hello, I would like to backup my entire Windows install to a separate hard drive.  I have tried dd but you can't get an exact same partition size on two different HDDs.  Can I use dd to copy into an image within a folder on a partition?
[09:35] <tuxgeek> ShaLaptop: did happen to me off-late with RHEL 4
[09:35] <mbt> user_____, Yes, so that you can use sudo again.  sudo is assuming that the clock was rolled back to attempt to break into the system.
[09:35] <alexicon> wewt think its fixed.
[09:35] <MrMakeveli> mbt: any recommended filesystems? i hear something about a log type (ext2/3)?
[09:35] <MrMakeveli> being better*
[09:35] <user_____> ok
[09:35] <alexicon> mbt: the problem was kde made its own gtkrc files, which were getting in the way. thats why my theme was so mixed up
[09:35] <mbt> MrMakeveli, I typically use ext3 on Linux systems.
[09:35] <user_____> thx i'll be back
[09:35] <tuxgeek> ShaLaptop: You are using Ubuntu?
[09:35] <mbt> alexicon, Oh, I'd completely forgotten about KDE doing that.
[09:35] <MrMakeveli> mbt: is ext3 the log type?
[09:35] <ShaLaptop> tuxgeek: yes
[09:36] <mbt> MrMakeveli, yes, it is a journalled filesystem.  The probability of data loss with it is not as great as ext2 in the event of a sudden power loss.  However, any filesystem can still lose data, journalled or not.
[09:36] <alexicon> :)
[09:37] <jontec> T_T why won't fuse work... I'm getting an error with fuse-config
[09:37] <tuxgeek> ShaLaptop: Login from the command prompt. Change your inittab to boot to runlevel 3
[09:37] <mbt> MrMakeveli, ReiserFS is also a good choice (version 3; version 4 is not usable by all distributions and so using it makes your system less interoperable with rescue utilities and the like).
[09:37] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i think i'll give it a try. im not sure what partitions to make, although i want to do a home one and a swap one
[09:37] <jontec> er fuse-uitls and ntfs-3g
[09:37] <sgtmattbaker> Hello, I would like to backup my entire Windows install to a separate hard drive.  I have tried dd but you can't get an exact same partition size on two different HDDs.  Can I use dd to copy into an image within a folder on a partition?
[09:37] <mbt> MrMakeveli, For desktop systems, I use one for /, one for ~, and one for swap.
[09:37] <tuxgeek> ShaLaptop: Then restart and login from the command prompt and start gdm
[09:37] <mbt> MrMakeveli, For servers, though, its an entirely different ball game.  :)
[09:38] <MrMakeveli> mbt: thats kinda what i was thinking
[09:38] <MrMakeveli> mbt: about the / ~/ and swap
[09:38] <tuxgeek> ShaLaptop: That might help. No gurantee
[09:38] <MrMakeveli> mbt: reiser makes me think of nazi germany, so im a little reluctant to "give that a try"
[09:38] <MrMakeveli> haha
[09:38] <MrMakeveli> but i've heard it mentioned too
[09:39] <delmored> do i have to install feisty on a seperate partition in order to test it? theres no way to use the log-in screen or something fancy like that? :)
[09:39] <mbt> MrMakeveli, I know some people that swear by ReiserFS 4.  *shrugs*  I am not the type of person to trade interoperability for a little bit of speed, though.
[09:39] <MrMakeveli> any speific advantages of reiser vs ext3?
[09:39] <MrMakeveli> mbt: me neither, i'd rather be safe
[09:39] <user____> how do i make my MAC change permanently?
[09:40] <mjbrooks> MrMakeveli, ext3 works fine for 99.9998% of users
[09:40] <mbt> MrMakeveli, None that I can think of.  ReiserFS 4 does work a little bit faster (at least in terms of human perception) when doing things like deleting TONS of directories and the like.  But such situations aren't frequent for me, so it's not worthwhile.
[09:40] <mbt> MrMakeveli, I agree with mjbrooks.  ext3 is what you should likely be using.
[09:41] <MrMakeveli> mbt, mj: you guys have any idea why i would never have a disk manager show up?
[09:41] <mbt> MrMakeveli, Disk manager?  What do you mean, exactly?
[09:42] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i have two hd's attached with a smaller 80 gb with ubuntu and another 160 with xp that doesnt even work anymore. when i was trying to mount xp, i was always told to go to system --> admin --> disk manager  to try and set it up or do things like partitions etc
[09:42] <mjbrooks> MrMakeveli, if you don't know why you would need ReiserFS over ext3 then you certainly don't need it
[09:42] <user____> how do i make my MAC change permanently?
[09:43] <MrMakeveli> mj: or maybe i dont know why yet and this conversation would enlighten me to the point of wanting to use it :P
[09:43] <CorpseFeeder> I want to try out the Feisty 7.04 beta. Is it possible for it to co-exist on my computer with Edgy? Do I have to put in on a separate partition? What's the go?
[09:43] <sgtmattbaker> Hello, I would like to backup my entire Windows install to a separate hard drive.  I have tried dd but you can't get an exact same partition size on two different HDDs.  Can I use dd to copy into an image within a folder on a partition?
[09:43] <dhamma21> anyone got a demonoid invite to share?
[09:43] <mbt> MrMakeveli, Could you say what 'file -sL /dev/node' would say for that drive, just out of curiosity?
[09:44] <user____> how do i change my ether MAC address?
[09:44] <user____> i need it to be changed permanently
[09:44] <mbt> MrMakeveli, I am inclined to agree with mjbrooks on that point, too.  Filesystems are not something that you want to experiment with unless you really know what you're doing, or your data isn't that important to you.  :)  Sometimes, you can get bit really hard by something that isn't mainstream.
[09:44] <alexicon> sgtmattbaker: im not sure if the size has to be exactly the same.. probably just big enough to hold the data. norton ghostdisk is a good program. dunno if you can find it free tho
[09:45] <user____> alexicon u can
[09:45] <alexicon> cool
[09:45] <MrMakeveli> whats the command to look at my partitions? isnt it fdisk or something along those lines?
[09:45] <mbt> sgtmattbaker, Yes, you can use dd to create an image of a partition.  There is also a utility called PartImage that you might want to look into, which is something similar to Norton's Ghost.
[09:45] <alexicon> yeah i used to use ghost all the time when i worked at a netcafe. imagine 22 machines running win98 lol. they had to be reimaged weekly :P
[09:46] <MrMakeveli> mbt: did you want me to run that file command?
[09:46] <user____> it's a ghost.exe if u find it .. although it's a old version but it does the job
[09:46] <CorpseFeeder> I want to try out the Feisty 7.04 beta. Is it possible for it to co-exist on my computer with Edgy? Do I have to put in on a separate partition? What's the go?
[09:46] <user____> i ghosted my win lots of times
[09:46] <mbt> alexicon, I used to work for a school that pulled files down at every boot.  We maintained a central image on the server, and every machine did a Netboot.  It was rebooted daily, and reimaged itself automagically.  :)
[09:46] <lunar-raven> does anyone here use wavebroadband cable?
[09:46] <Shaba1> Hello folks
[09:46] <mbt> MrMakeveli, If you have the drive there, and it is still doing that, yes.
[09:46] <alexicon> wicked mbt ;)
[09:47] <sgtmattbaker> mbt: I do not want to pay for ghost, partimage only works "experimentally" and I cannot figure out for the live of me to get dd to backup into a disk image in a folder inside of a filesystem.  When I tried just using dd to copy a partition to another when I restored chkdsk found errors
[09:47] <alexicon> if i had my way i woulda installed linux all over that cafe.. management thought it would confuse people...
[09:47] <Shaba1> Does the full iptables software/version come woth that non sever portion of xubuntu?
[09:47] <alexicon> which was funny cos at the time, we just installed mozilla [when this was new]  and people couldnt find the net cos it didnt have the IE icon.. -_-
[09:47] <alexicon> oooooh the humanity...
[09:48] <mbt> sgtmattbaker, Usually the partition has to be restored in-place because Windows is very, *very* finniky about its devices.  Try 'dd if=/dev/partition of=win-backup.img' (without the quotes, of course).
[09:48] <sgtmattbaker> mbt: could I send you a PM so I don't have to wade through the IRC channel
[09:48] <mbt> sgtmattbaker, I suppose.
[09:49] <MrMakeveli> mbt: whats the command to look at my partions again? its f-something. its not fdisk right?
[09:49] <ShaLaptop> why /etc/inittab don't exist o.o;
[09:50] <CorpseFeeder> I want to try out the Feisty 7.04 beta. Is it possible for it to co-exist on my computer with Edgy? Do I have to put in on a separate partition? What do I do?
[09:50] <jarrett> how do i install java from the terminal?
[09:50] <mbt> MrMakeveli, You can use "sudo fdisk -l" to list them.
[09:51] <MrMakeveli> i tried fdisk -l
[09:51] <MrMakeveli> grr
[09:51] <mbt> ShaLaptop, /etc/inittab is used by SysV init.  Ubuntu now uses Upstart, which does not need that file any longer.
[09:51] <MrMakeveli> mbt: ok now let me run the command from earlier on the hd
[09:51] <mrayyan> hey guys, for some reason my ubuntu is very slow....  and it is not memory or cpu usage
[09:51] <mrayyan> it is switching from one window to another
[09:51] <mrayyan> or activating window
[09:52] <mrayyan> any reason behind this guys? this is really frustrating
[09:52] <MrMakeveli> mbt: writable, but no read permission
[09:52] <mbt> MrMakeveli, For the drive?  As root?
[09:52] <MrMakeveli> mbt: thats for my other hd that has windows on it
[09:53] <MrMakeveli> mbt: it should be an ntfs or something
[09:53] <mbt> MrMakeveli, one sec
[09:53] <mrayyan> any help on this one guys?
[09:53] <MrMakeveli> mbt: did you want me to run it on my current hd runnin ubuntu?
[09:54] <mjbrooks> mrayyan, define slow
[09:54] <Xteven> mrayyan: maybe video drivers ?
[09:54] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i picked the dev corresponding to the windows hd
[09:54] <mbt> MrMakeveli, it should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15007/
[09:54] <CorpseFeeder> I want to try out the Feisty 7.04 beta. Is it possible for it to co-exist on my computer with Edgy? Do I have to put in on a separate partition? What do I need to do?
[09:54] <mrayyan> when I hit ctrl-T it takes time to respond
[09:54] <mrayyan> when I click on the firefox it takes time to switch to the window
[09:54] <mbt> MrMakeveli, The first one is for the entire drive, and the second one is for my Windows Vista (shudder) partition.
[09:54] <jtholmes> CorpseFeeder: put it on a separate partition
[09:54] <gabz> CorpseFeeder: you would have to do a seperate partintion unless you want to upgrade edgy to feisty
[09:55] <mjbrooks> mrayyan, if you move a window around does it leave a trail of windows ehind it?
[09:55] <jtholmes> CorpseFeeder: dont use the beta it is old  get a daily build
[09:55] <mrayyan> it is laptop, will that be the reason?
[09:55] <MrMakeveli> mbt: those are both on the same hd though arent they?
[09:55] <mrayyan> mjbrooks: nope
[09:55] <MrMakeveli> mbt: my ubuntu and windows are on seperate physical drives
[09:55] <karakara> on my lappy the video card drivers arent supported very well
[09:55] <mrayyan> cannot find a linux driver for this laptop
[09:56] <mjbrooks> mrayyan, how much memory does it have?
[09:56] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i can do my ubuntu one, lets see
[09:56] <mrayyan> 1gb of ram...as for the video i think 64 shared
[09:56] <CorpseFeeder> Ok thanks... And how about grub? Will the feisty installer modify it to show both the fesity parition installation and the edgy partition installation?
[09:56] <ror> is there a quick way to search aptitude?
[09:56] <Xteven> apt-cache search x y z
[09:56] <ror> ta
[09:57] <Xteven> np
[09:57] <gabz> CorpseFeeder: it should but i haven't checked...
[09:57] <Sha> i'm shalaptop anyway: do someone know why i can't open my session with "run xclient script"
[09:57] <jenda> how difficult is it to create a firefox search plugin?
[09:57] <mneptok> mrayyan: make/model of video card?
[09:57] <mjbrooks> mrayyan, is it possible that your video drivers aren't installed?
[09:57] <MrMakeveli> mbt: ok so lets see, for the first on the linux it says it is an ext3 and needs journal recovery
[09:57] <mjbrooks> mneptok, bet you it is an intel
[09:57] <gabz> jenda: depends now difficult you find coding :P
[09:57] <mneptok> mjbrooks: what series?
[09:58] <mjbrooks> mneptok, lol
[09:58] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> does feisty have an official release date yet?
[09:58] <mbt> MrMakeveli, Yes, those are the same drive.  But, it should work with your Windows drive as well; the overall drive should have a MBR, and then the Windows partition should have information with it, too.  And yes, a running system will be marked as "Needs recovery" because it wasn't cleanly unmounted.
[09:58] <mjbrooks> mneptok, the slow kind appearently   lol
[09:58] <jenda> gabz: insurpassable obstacle ;)
[09:58] <CorpseFeeder> Anyone know how far away until the first non-beta release of feisty?
[09:58] <MrMakeveli> mbt: ok let me try the windows again
[09:58] <gabz> CorpseFeeder:  8 days
[09:58] <mjbrooks> CorpseFeeder, Supposedly Apr 19
[09:59] <mjbrooks> mrayyan, what make/model is the video card?
[09:59] <gabz> jenda: could be a problem if you go to the firefox plugin website there should be some infomation about the API there
[09:59] <MrMakeveli> mbt: still just saying that its writable, but not readable. which kind of makes sense why we cant see the info
[10:00] <mbt> MrMakeveli, If you're getting that on your drive hosting Windows, and you're running that command with sudo or otherwise as root, there is a bigger issue, I think.
[10:01] <MrMakeveli> mbt: am i hosting windows? the hd is just attached via ide cable. i dont think there is any other connection between the two other than the fact i've mounted it once
[10:01] <jackie> Hello! I s it possible to view microsoft exchange calandars under evolution?
[10:02] <ton1> i am having trouble installing flashplayer i did everything the installer told me but the error i get is my architecture dsnt suport this verision of flash player .... so i was wondering if any of you guys know where i can download the 64bit verison of flash
[10:02] <MrMakeveli> mbt: plus there may be other problems. for example, originally i had xp home or something. it got corrupt and was having problems. woudlnt even boot. so somehow i got another install alongside it using a pirated xp pro, and i think the time was running out
[10:02] <mjbrooks> jackie, supposedly, but some people say I have a better chance of seeing heaven
[10:03] <mneptok> ton1: PPC? AMD64?
[10:03] <ton1> amd64
[10:03] <mneptok> ton1: it does not exist
[10:03] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i should just format it
[10:03] <jackie> mjbrooks mmm.. :)
[10:03] <ton1> lol so i cant get flash player to install for my computer thats weeeeek
[10:03] <mneptok> ton1: Macrodobe has not released an AMD64 Flash plugin
[10:03] <MrMakeveli> mbt: but the disk manager seemed like it would be nice, i dont even have it though
[10:03] <alex_qwe> ton1 OS version?
[10:03] <ror> does anyone know which file I have to edit to stop sudo prompting for password?
[10:03] <ton1> 7.02
[10:04] <ton1> the newest one
[10:04] <mjbrooks> jackie, I wish I could help you out, but I swore off Evolution years ago
[10:04] <alex_qwe> ror, sudo
[10:04] <ror> there was a time evo was nice but not now :(
[10:04] <mbt> MrMakeveli, *shrugs*.  I don't really use graphical utilities when command line ones are available, so I don't know about any disk manager.
[10:04] <alex_qwe> ror, sudoers
[10:05] <jackie> mjbrooks np.. :)
[10:05] <ror> ta
[10:05] <alex_qwe> ta?
[10:05] <mjbrooks> jackie, if there was an easy way towards exchange integration under linux, there would be 4x the number of linux users out there
[10:06] <alex_qwe> ror, the file is /etc/sudoers
[10:06] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i know what you mean. if i knew enough to do it all cli i would
[10:06] <ror> I'd need %admin ALL= NOPASSWD: ALL
[10:06] <ror> right?
[10:07] <mbt> MrMakeveli, It's so much faster for me.  Now if only I could learn enough to actually fix my wireless driver myself...
[10:07] <alex_qwe> who is in alias admin?
[10:07] <mbt> MrMakeveli, But then again, kernel hacking is not my forte.
[10:07] <rausb0> mbt: which wireless driver is it?
[10:07] <mjbrooks> mbt, broadcom??
[10:07] <jackie> mjbrooks you are right..
[10:08] <mbt> rausb0, It's a Gemtek device supported by the ra73usb driver.
[10:08] <alex_qwe> ror, create a new alias
[10:08] <mjbrooks> Gemtek    yowza!!!!
[10:08] <MrMakeveli> mbt: someday, right?
[10:08] <MrMakeveli> haha
[10:09] <rausb0> mbt: i have a d-link dwl-g122 with rt73 chipset. works fine with the cvs snapshot of the rt73 driver from serialmonkey.
[10:09] <mbt> rausb0, The only problem is that the NDIS driver I have is Vista only (NDIS 6; unsupported), and the device requires me to boot up Windows Vista to init it, after a powerfailure.
[10:09] <alex_qwe> User_Alias name=user
[10:09] <rausb0> mbt: why use ndiswrapper/windows driver for that?
[10:10] <mbt> rausb0, Also, it is horribly inefficient; under Linux, it transfers at a max of 30-50KiB/sec, under Windows, I get my full bandwidth (about 1 MiB/sec).
[10:10] <alex_qwe> then new Cmnd_Alias name=programs
[10:10] <mjbrooks> mbt, I'd look for an <=XP driver then
[10:10] <mbt> rausb0, For those reasons.
[10:10] <alex_qwe> ror?
[10:10] <mbt> mjbrooks, There is none; not for this card anyway.  There are others for ones that should be compatible, but they don't address this hardware.  NDISWrapper says that the hardware is not present and won't even try to load the driver.
[10:11] <MrMakeveli> mbt: i really should just format it, thank god i was organized before and kept all my stuff in a single folder and seperated appropriately. it was as easy as copying a single folder over. all though most of it was windows apps which i dont even care for anymore haha
[10:11] <rausb0> mbt: and which native driver did you use in linux? there is no ra73usb, do you mean rt73usb?
[10:12] <mbt> rausb0, Yes, typographical error.  That's the driver that Ubuntu loaded automatically to work for it.  I filed a bug on it at the bug tracker...
[10:12] <mbt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104382
[10:12] <flackrum> hey folks, I have a 2nd hard drive (fat32 /dev/hdb) which I'm in the process of trying to automount, using help.ubuntu.com, I made a directory for it called /media/dosdrive  and when sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/dosdrive   is entered in the terminal it says I need to provide a filesystem type.. term help was a bit verbose for this newb, does anyone have a quick and dirty answer for where/how to specify that it's fat32?
[10:12] <mbt> That tells the story behind my card.
[10:12] <mbt> :-(
[10:13] <mbt> rausb0, I thought about attempting to use the BSD driver ported to Linux, but I can't even figure out how to get it to build.  I can build userspace stuff, and I used to build kernel software all the time under Slackware, but here I get problems.  I think the BSD driver is out of date, though, because the system is complaining mostly about missing header files and the like.
[10:14] <binskipy2u> flackrum..try this >
[10:14] <binskipy2u> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Understanding_fstab
[10:14] <binskipy2u> so you can add it permenantly
[10:14] <Shadow_X_> wazup peeps
[10:14] <mjbrooks> mbt, there appears to be a bug on it in launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/104382
[10:14] <rausb0> mbt: the rt73usb driver is the rewrite of the serialmonkey driver. i still use the "old" rt73 driver from serialmonkey.
[10:14] <flackrum> thanks binskipy2u, bringing it up now
[10:14] <mbt> mjbrooks, Yeah, that's the one that I opened a few days ago... pasted link to it above :)
[10:15] <rausb0> mbt: compiled it myself
[10:15] <mbt> rausb0, Where can I find that one?  The rt2x00 site?
[10:15] <rausb0> mbt: just a moment
[10:15] <binskipy2u> flackrum here's another site>
[10:16] <binskipy2u> http://www.smorgasbord.net/book/export/html/195
[10:16] <binskipy2u> once you learn the syntax
[10:16] <flackrum> awesome, it's appreciated
[10:16] <binskipy2u> you can add the appropriate line to fstab
[10:16] <binskipy2u> and then its there
[10:16] <mjbrooks> mbt, oh, that's you!   lol
[10:16] <binskipy2u> in your file manager under /mnt
[10:16] <rausb0> mbt: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz
[10:17] <rausb0> mbt: if you need to do WPA with this driver, you dont use wpa_supplicant but some iwpriv commands (see iwpriv_usage.txt in the archive)
[10:17] <binskipy2u> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/bradsstuff vfat defaults 1 2
[10:17] <binskipy2u> put your info in that
[10:17] <pieter_> hi all
[10:17] <flackrum> hmm, I see.. so technically I should mount it in /mnt rather than /media.. makes sense.. sweet these links help
[10:17] <binskipy2u> change vfat to fat32
[10:18] <odat> anyone familiar with compiling a single module
[10:18] <mbt> rausb0, Fortunately, no WPA.  I will give that a shot right now and see what happens.
[10:18] <flackrum> coolness thanks binskipy
[10:18] <binskipy2u> /dev/<yourhardrive> /mnt/<name of drive> <file system> defaults 1 2
[10:18] <dooglus> is there any way to get my ext2 casper-rw memory stick mounted with the 'noatime' option, to prolong its life a little?
[10:18] <binskipy2u> hope that helps
[10:18] <flackrum> it does ;)
[10:19] <dooglus> (using the xubuntu 6.06 live cd)
[10:19] <odat> anyone familiar with compiling a single module
[10:19] <rausb0> mbt: dont forget to rmmod rt73usb before modprobe rt73
[10:19] <binskipy2u> i think 7.x will be very nice
[10:19] <binskipy2u> and very stable/fast
[10:19] <flackrum> once I finish this up, I'm going to have to head over to thinkgeek and get a l33t t-shirt
[10:19] <binskipy2u> 8 more days
[10:19] <mbt> rausb0, With any luck, I will be blacklisting rt73usb :)
[10:20] <rausb0> mbt: btw, the rt73 driver has some nice features for wep cracking like monitor mode and packet injection while in monitor mode :)
[10:20] <binskipy2u> well flack ive learned one of the best points of linux.. even a good newbie not so geekyone like ubuntu
[10:20] <binskipy2u> makes you learn a few things
[10:20] <binskipy2u> and exercises your mind
[10:20] <binskipy2u> while other distros, make you lose your mind
[10:21] <binskipy2u> then there's the ones inbetween
[10:21] <pieter_> Quick question: When booting my computer it stops for about 2-3 minutes when loading Gnome (At the point when the metacity icon is shown). I looked at various logs and I'm not seeing anything extraordinary. What would be the perfect place to start debugging this?
[10:21] <binskipy2u> pieter..
[10:21] <binskipy2u> install the bum from synaptic
[10:21] <binskipy2u> boot up manager
[10:21] <flackrum> very true, binskipy, I've tried others.. starting with slackware back in the day, then knoppix livecd.. none of them felt comfortable enough for me to take a good stab at it
[10:21] <binskipy2u> and then google each thing that starts up
[10:21] <binskipy2u> or look on the forums