[02:35] <kitty_> ok fine how do i even tell what version of ubuntu i'm running on so i can report it to you and we can get over your molehill ?
[02:35] <Flannel> MaT-dg: Select azureus in synaptic, it'll say "we need to instlal X Y and Z", go unmark vuze before hitting "apply"
[02:35] <KOSHrf> hello, i have a question, how do i change display resolutions in 8.10? it seems the X11 doesnt care about xorg.conf and the "graphical" program only gives me 800x600 (i can get way more). Thanks.
[02:35] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> i guess so, but try it first
[02:35] <Flannel> agoole: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[02:35] <maxbaldwin> How do I .tar.gz a directory from the command line?
[02:35] <tom___> i've just installed a minimal 8.10, installed "xorg" and openbox, but startx crashes at X
[02:35] <GodfatherofEire1> I will, back in a bit if it doesnt work
[02:35] <andresjatsaint> so this is andresjweb and andresj_*. finally the network works. turns out the cable broke (internally or somthing) at the exact same day as i tested Intrepid, lol.
[02:36] <Hilton> I'm trying to install Ubunto 8.10 ...
[02:36] <MaT-dg> Flannel, got it, was working with terminal..
[02:36] <Flannel> maxbaldwin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#Command%20Line%20Usage
[02:36] <damaltor> maxbaldwin: tar cvjf file.tar.gz directoryname
[02:36] <maxbaldwin> thanks Flannel
[02:36] <DaveCave> dual partition 500G sata II, 400g ntfs, 100g ext3, ubuntu already installed, i started the windows install, but when it went to reset the windows install wasnt in the boot loader
[02:36] <elvisds> maxbaldwin : also try man tar
[02:36] <n8tuser> agoole-> /etc/init.d/apache2 stop ?
[02:36] <Hilton> I'm trying to install Ubunto 8.10 ... It's been sitting on the "Installing System" window for about 20 minutes now at 82%, "Configuring apt", "Scanning the mirror..." --- what's up?
[02:36] <andresjatsaint> Anyways, now the mouse (USB mouse) is not working. Is there a way to go back to how it was before i enabled unsupported upgrades?
[02:36] <agoole> Flannel: will it restart next time i boot up again ?
[02:36] <maxbaldwin> and others
[02:36] <Flannel> agoole: Yes
[02:36] <damaltor> maxbaldwin: sorry, tar cvzf file.tar.gz directoryname
[02:36] <cliechti> ffs, the keyboard problem only exists with my account. the guest account works as expected. which file do i need to erase to get a working keyboard...
[02:36] <agoole> Flannel: arg...perfect,thank you
[02:36] <Flannel> kitty_: what "doesn't work" when booting to the other OSes?  What does it do?
[02:37] <xarball> hey! :)
[02:37] <kitty_> http://pastebin.com/d57b82b82
[02:37] <DaveCave> hi
[02:37] <Hilton> Is there a way I can force it past checking mirrors?
[02:37] <kitty_> when i try to boot the "other operating systems" it just says "Starting up..." and freezes there
[02:37] <incadudeF> what i cant but stuff with paypal... :-(
[02:37] <incadudeF> but=buy
[02:37] <DaveCave> dual partition 500G sata II, 400g ntfs, 100g ext3, ubuntu already installed, i started the windows install, but when it went to reset the windows install wasnt in the boot loader, so i cant continue install, advice?
[02:37] <bob_> haha
[02:38] <Flannel> incadudeF: What do you want to buy?
[02:38] <nouMenon> I've been reading guides all day and still haven't been able to figure out how to fix my world of warcraft/WINE installation. Could someone please help? I installed WOW in Wine (1.1.7) and the installation worked just fine. But once I tried to start the game, everything was incredibly choppy and laggy. I really have no idea why. I've played this game on this same computer using Windows before I installed Linux a year or so ago.
[02:38] <bob_> hallo
[02:38] <incadudeF> a ubuntu shirt
[02:38] <elvisds> Hilton: Thats strange, it happened to me once. If you are using the GUI from the Live CD, cancel it and restart. Just my suggestion though, wait for other replies as well.
[02:38] <secion8> Anyone help with ubuntu mobile on a samsung q1 ultra?
[02:38] <KOSHrf> hello, i have a question, how do i change display resolutions in 8.10? it seems the X11 doesnt care about xorg.conf and the "graphical" program only gives me 800x600 (i can get way more). Thanks.
[02:38] <Flannel> incadudeF: oh.  Are you in the US? or no?
[02:38] <MaT-dg> Flannel, ok thx for your help but it still doesn't work: it will not even start when 'vuze' is not installed, I really need to find a way to install azureus version <IP_ADDRESS> (NO vuze crap :P)
[02:38] <incadudeF> yeah in the US
[02:38] <Hilton> elvisds: I can't even cancel. I didn't boot into the live system, though, just went straight to install.
[02:38] <DaveCave> nouMenon: your using the default drivers, they wont support WOW
[02:38] <n8tuser> Hilton-> perhaps the servers are busy ..so its looking for available one?
[02:38] <damaltor> hello everybody, i am thinking about upgrading to 8.10. i just read the release notes, and there seems to be a problem with geforce 4 and other nvidia cards, they are put back to nv driver due to incompatibilities. is there a way to use 3d acceleration in 8.10 with geforce 4?
[02:38] <binMonkey> i have a broadcom wireless card.  if i upgrade to 08.10 will i retain my ndiswrapper setup or will i have to do it all over again?
[02:38] <CMD_L1N3> n8tuser: im back. do you mean add a launcher with the command 'nm-applet' ?
[02:38] <pw-_> i got my AR242x working with ath5k, however it's rather slow, and what little speed i have seems to come in bursts, what could be causing this?
[02:38] <nouMenon> DaveCave, what do you mean I'm using the default drivers? How do I figure that out?
[02:38] <Hilton> n8tuser: For 20+ minutes?
[02:38] <Flannel> incadudeF: http://usshop.ubuntu.com/
[02:39] <Arezura> nouMenon , ati or nvidia card?
[02:39] <nouMenon> Arezura, ATI
[02:39] <DaveCave> get Envyng
[02:39] <incadudeF> they dont accept paypal
[02:39] <agoole> Flannel: it says I can remove apache, if i do sudo apt-get remove apache, and tried apache2 ....how do I remove it ?
[02:39] <n8tuser> CMD_L1N3-> nope, i said if it does not appear under administration, add it first, then add it via the app launcher
[02:39] <secion8> anyone familiar with ubuntu mobile?
[02:39] <Flannel> incadudeF: https://shop.canonical.com/  They do though.
[02:39] <nouMenon> DaveCave, I was told by some people not to use Envy because it's unstable and I had problems with it before, is it ok with 8.06 Hardy Herring?
[02:39] <Flannel> agoole: You want to remove it completely from your system? or what?
[02:39] <n8tuser> Hilton-> be patient, its extremely busy now..give it 20 more
[02:39] <incadudeF> they wont ship to me
[02:39] <Arezura> hmm, i havent had much luck with the ati in my mbp but have in my imac.. one thing it you want to use opengl and not d3d
[02:39] <bob_> How do you feeling in 8.10??
[02:39] <DaveCave> nouMenon, with ATI it usually works better
[02:39] <agoole> Flannel: yes, for now,
[02:39] <littlelambda> I have a pc running the live cd with no os installed on the hdd. I cant install to the hdd like i want to since it fails with an io error (i think the live cd is corrupted) is the anyway of downloading an iso from the net and either installing with that, or ejecting the live cd and burning it. I found instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux but it requires I edit the grub config files,
[02:39] <littlelambda>  which I beleive I can't do with the live CD. Any suggestions for getting my pc in a useable state
[02:40] <GodfatherofEire> Didn't work n8tuser
[02:40] <DaveCave> nouMenon it took me awhile to get it working with my Nvidia card
[02:40] <nouMenon> DaveCave, is there a preferable place I could download Envy?
[02:40] <binMonkey> i have a broadcom wireless card.  if i upgrade to 08.10 will i retain my ndiswrapper setup or will i have to do it all over again?
[02:40] <xarball> Hey, doing 8.04 to 8.10 upgrade here on debootstrapped (i.e. built) ubuntu system... do i have to go through the GUI upgrader, or "do-release-upgrade", or can i just update the sources.list???  This upgrade has failed for me 100% in the past.
[02:40] <binMonkey> anyone?
[02:40] <Arezura> it defaults to d3d
[02:40] <Flannel> agoole: completely?  Including all configs and stuff?
[02:40] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> what do you have in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:40] <Flannel> !envy | nouMenon
[02:40] <nouMenon> !envy
[02:40] <DaveCave> nouMenon, i believe it is sudo apt-get install envyng-core can i get somenoe to verify?
[02:40] <agoole> Flannel: yup, nothing important is there, so total removal
[02:40] <Flannel> agoole: alright, sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 apache2.2-common apache2-mpm-worker
[02:41] <GodfatherofEire> I had the file modified like you said, and it didn't work
[02:41] <GodfatherofEire> Right now, It's operating on eth0
[02:41] <n8tuser> xarball i believe you can go strait to do-release-upgrade
[02:41] <Arezura> nouMenon , hold on i will look at my config file to see what exactly i put in there
[02:41] <damaltor> DaveCave: you seem to know about issues with nvidia cards. i have a geforce 4, may i update to 8.10? in the release notes i read something about problems with the nvidia driver, only nv seems to be usuable... is that true?
[02:41] <n8tuser> !who | GodfatherofEire
[02:41] <nouMenon> Arezura, thank you very much.
[02:41] <DaveCave> damaltor: do not upgrade to 8.10 not yet
[02:41] <prathames1> a
[02:41] <nouMenon> DaveCave, can I get it through Add/Erase Applications?
[02:41] <damaltor> DaveCave: ok thanks
[02:41] <xarball> n8tuser : is there a difference between that and just manually editing sources.list?
[02:41] <xarball> (i.e. do-release-upgrade)
[02:41] <DaveCave> noumenon: yes, make sure you set it to all applications
[02:41] <secion8> Anyone familiar with ubuntu mobile on samsung q1 ultra?
[02:42] <le000> Hi
[02:42] <Flannel> MaT-dg: We could try grabbing a hardy deb, sure: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/azureus  (the "all" link near the bottom next to package size)
[02:42] <KOSHrf> hello, i have a question, how do i change display resolutions in 8.10? it seems the X11 doesnt care about xorg.conf and the "graphical" program only gives me 800x600 (i can get way more). Xrand doesnt seem to work either. I was used to get 1024x768 with VESA driver, now i can't get more than 800x600.
[02:42] <n8tuser> xarball i would think it would still use sources.list so take your pick
[02:42] <agoole> Flannel: perfect, its removing, thank you so much, been trying to get this done for too long
[02:42] <secion8> I try to boot from the usb stick but all i get is a comma and it sits there.
[02:42] <CMD_L1N3> n8tuser: i'm sorry i still don't understand. network is not available to install or add in the admin menu
[02:42] <Hilton> So how do I cancel or skip this scanning mirrors thing? Do I have to just power off?
[02:42] <idleman> hi, how do i disable when i type a command that doesn't exist, it searches packages for the file?
[02:42] <DaveCave> damaltor: i had nvidia working on my 8.04, but once 8.10 it wouldnt even load GUI its a known bug right now, still yet to be solved
[02:42] <jbg7474> binmonkey: I have a broadcom wireless card (b43 I think) and upgraded to 8.10--it worked on first boot--not sure if it kept the ndiswrapper setup or not--forgot how to check
[02:42] <bob_> Did ubuntu 8.10 sovle the problem LOAD/UNLOAD CYCLE COUNT?
[02:42] <n8tuser> xarball i dont really know the contents of the script do-release-upgrade either
[02:42] <GodfatherofEire> N8tuser: Also, the wlan0 isn't being recognized as a wireless connection, its showing up as a wired connection. The wired and wireless connections are supposedly unmanaged, and I cant connect to anything except this wired connection.
[02:42] <damaltor> DaveCave: can you tell me where i can see if this card is supported again? or better, will it be supported again ever?
[02:42] <nouMenon> DaveCave, it doesn't appear to have envying or envy in Add/Remove Applications.
[02:42] <pr0fane> hi. I have installed punkbuster. How to open it?
[02:43] <le000> the toolbar where all the windows minimize disappeared! How i fix it?
[02:43] <incadudeF> so is there any viruses for ubuntu? Just wanted to know.
[02:43] <xarball> n8tuser : thx, will do
[02:43] <DaveCave> damaltor: what nvidia card you have?
[02:43] <binMonkey> jbg7474: thanks.  have you had any drops?  that's a sign of using the non ndiswrapper setup?
[02:43] <bob_> Did ubuntu 8.10 sovle the problem LOAD/UNLOAD CYCLE COUNT?
[02:43] <Arezura> nouMenon , ok edit your config.wtf in the WTF folder and add this to the file:   SET gxApi "opengl"
[02:43] <n8tuser> CMD_L1N3-> first you do this... system->preferences->main menu  and then add the app you need
[02:43] <kitty_> flannel: appears somewhere along the line i have upgraded to hardy herron. so now that thats over, did you look at my pastebin ?
[02:43] <le000> the toolbar where all the windows minimize disappeared! How i fix it?
[02:43] <damaltor> DaveCave: nvidia gforce 4 (indeed a gf 4 420 go in a notebook.. but the usual nvidia driver worked great since feisty)
[02:43] <pr0fane> I have installed punkbuster. How to open it?
[02:43] <Arezura> that should smooth it out alot
[02:44]  * Fr0zen__ is deinstalling 8.10 and going back to Vista...
[02:44] <Fr0zen__> :(
[02:44] <Fr0zen__> broadcom drivers dont work
[02:44] <Fr0zen__> i wish they did I love 8.10
[02:44] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> lets back up a little bit, your wifi nic card is not recognized?
[02:44] <nouMenon> Arezura, my gxApi was originally at opengl and it didn't work. I changed it to d3d because a guide recommended it and it still didn't work. I will change it back to opengl now, but it isn't going to work quite yet.
[02:44] <Feldegast> n8tuser ty working now :)
[02:44] <secion8> le000: click on your top toolbar and click "New panel" then add the program manager applet to it.
[02:44] <Dorobo18jp> how do you remove google gadgets program
[02:44] <n8tuser> Feldegast-> great..am happy
[02:44] <damaltor> Fr0zen__: not even with ndiswrapper?
[02:44] <GodfatherofEire> N8tuser, it shows up as recognized and installed by ndiswrapper, but not the new network manager
[02:44] <KOSHrf> hello, i have a question, how do i change display resolutions in 8.10? it seems the X11 doesnt care about xorg.conf and the "graphical" program only gives me 800x600 (i can get way more). Xrand doesnt seem to work either. I was used to get 1024x768 with VESA driver, now i can't get more than 800x600.
[02:45] <Hilton> Ahh it finally went past it
[02:45] <DaveCave> damaltor: yes the 177 drivers will support that card, and it is supported in 8.10 but there is just a bug at the moment, should be solved soon, check back for updates every now and then
[02:45] <Arezura>  nouMenon, is it just choppy or is there wierd garbage on the screen?
[02:45] <Hilton> Just jumped to 94% hardware now.
[02:45] <Fr0zen__> http://speedbump.ws/?p=12
[02:45] <damaltor> DaveCave: ok great. where can i look that up?
[02:45] <n8tuser> Hilton-> see another 20  is all it took  :P
[02:45] <billybigrigger> Fr0zen__, my broadcom works out of the box
[02:45] <Fr0zen__> damaltor i tried that one
[02:45] <usser> Fr0zen__, what doesnt work
[02:45] <nouMenon> Arezura, it's just incredibly choppy. Even the log-in screen chops so bad that it takes my mouse about 5-6 seconds to register movement.
[02:45] <usser> Fr0zen__, works fine here
[02:45] <secion8> ANyone have experience with ubuntu mobile on samsung q1 ultra
[02:45] <Hilton> They must have borrowed this gauge from Microsoft - 10 minutes to get to 82%, 40 minutes to get to 83%, 3 minutes to 100%.
[02:45] <Fr0zen__> my broadcome wifi card, it's the 4328 dell draft-n
[02:45] <incadudeF> who here got a Crossover key?
[02:45] <tutah> Hi wanted to know what is the minimum ram/cpu needed to run xubuntu
[02:45] <Hilton> ;)
[02:46] <Arezura> are you sure your using the fglrx driver?
[02:46] <Hilton> Thanks for all your suggestions. Have to give up this PC now.
[02:46] <Fr0zen__> i loaded up the B34 driver from the menu as directed and it installed fine says in use but i cant turn the wifi card on etc
[02:46] <tensei> Does anyone know what directory icon files are stored in for Ubuntu 8.04?
[02:46] <billybigrigger> Fr0zen__, aaahhh
[02:46] <MaT-dg> Flannel, yes that worked! I have my good old version of azureus back, thank you!
[02:46] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> lets start troubleshooting what you got, i dont recall all the details of earlier convo...which wifi nic card do you have?
[02:46] <nouMenon> Arezura, is there a way to check? I've seen two different things on my computer. One place (my xorg config) said it was the fglrx driver, but another spot said it was the Mesa driver.
[02:46] <Fr0zen__> got any idea billy?
[02:46] <douglas> Hello channel!
[02:46] <secion8> Anyone here have experience with ubuntu mobile not booting.
[02:47] <Dorobo18jp> thanks figured it out
[02:47] <GodfatherofEire> N8tuser, you remember Malgr1? That was me on my friend's comp
[02:47] <tutah> Hi wanted to know what is the minimum ram/cpu needed to run xubuntu
[02:47] <billybigrigger> tutah, im pretty sure xubuntu runs on a 1ghz cpu and 256mb ram
[02:47] <Flannel> tutah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:47] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> no i can not remember things here, i have far too many things to prioritize
[02:47] <GodfatherofEire> N8tuser: Realtek RT8185, was working yesterday, shut down last night/this morning, stopped working
[02:47] <GodfatherofEire> No prob
[02:47] <elvisds> ATI radeon works fine with  ubuntu?
[02:48] <kriston> What HDTV cards work with Ubuntu out of the box?
[02:48] <CMD_L1N3> n8tuser: okay. i'll brb
[02:48] <douglas> Guys I don't have much experience in linux so sorry for asking such dumb question. Is Ubuntu a KDE system or Gnome?
[02:48] <tutah> Flannel and what about 128mb
[02:48] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> and the driver for RT8185 is loaded?
[02:48] <kitty_> anyone familiar with the "ntldr files missing" problem cause it appears that is the closest problem to what i am having, and help would be appreciated
[02:48] <tensei> elvisds: I have ATI Radeon card and it works fine
[02:48] <tensei> Anyone know where icon files are kept?
[02:48] <littlelambda> douglas: by default, gnome
[02:48] <zigovr> does anyone know how I can probe in what power management mode the hard disk  is ?
[02:48] <GodfatherofEire> N8tuser: yep, it's loaded and was working without incident before the 8.10 update
[02:48] <Red_Wraith> The kernel interface for drivers below 177.xx for nvidia cards refuses to compile. Can someone help me?
[02:48] <kriston> tensei: check files ending with "png" in /usr/share/ and /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:49] <douglas> littlelambda, Thanks... But then why do I download KDE applications and they work?
[02:49] <jbg7474> binmonkey: no, no drops--wireless connection is rock solid
[02:49] <elvisds> tensei: try /usr/share/icons
[02:49] <Arezura> one other thing to try might to be to download crossover games trial and intall it that way and then copy the config.wtf to you .wine wow install
[02:49] <Flannel> kitty_: Are you sure hd0,0 is the right drive to boot to? (thats sda1)
[02:49] <kitty_> yes
[02:49] <binMonkey> jbg7474: cool.  thanks.
[02:50] <littlelambda> douglas: because you dont need the whole kde environment for them to work; just  the libraries
[02:50] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> you can check..  cat /proc/modules|grep rt
[02:50] <pw-_> i am having huge lag spikes (2-3 minutes) under Atheros AR242x, anyone experienced in this field?
[02:50] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> am assuming the driver starts with rt
[02:50] <nouMenon> Arezura, you mean download the WOW trial from the website and install it?
[02:50] <tensei> I'm looking for the Trash Icon.. I loaded AWN and I am letting up the launcher..
[02:50] <jbg7474> binMonkey: no problem--by the way, when given the option after the upgrade, I did not elect to install the restricted driver.  Good luck!
[02:50] <littlelambda> douglas: i guess ubuntu installs the required libraries for you from the mirror when you install them
[02:50] <Fr0zen__> is there anything i can do to get this god damn broadcom 4328 dell draft-n wireless card to work? I dont want to reformat to Vista.
[02:51] <pw-_> douglas, ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is KDE
[02:51] <douglas> littlelambda, Hmm nice :) I'm upgrading my ubuntu to 8.10 right now... Are you alreeady using the new version?
[02:51] <kitty_> flannel: yes
[02:51] <Arezura>  nouMenon, no crossover is a non free project based off wine, but they have a trial you can try
[02:51] <Flannel> tutah: that's fine.  Minimum requirements is 64mb
[02:51] <binMonkey> jbg7474: good to know.  that probably means you're using ndiswrapper, right?
[02:52] <KOSHrf> hello, i have a question, how do i change display resolutions in 8.10? it seems the X11 doesnt care about xorg.conf and the "graphical" program only gives me 800x600 (i can get way more). Xrand doesnt seem to work either. I was used to get 1024x768 with VESA driver, now i can't get more than 800x600.
[02:52] <littlelambda> douglas: im using the ubuntu 8.10 live cd atm, my first experiance with ubuntu. Im having problems getting it on my hard drive unfortuantly
[02:52] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66001/
[02:52] <Arezura>  nouMenon, originally that is what i did
[02:52] <n8tuser> Fr0zen__-> bcm43xx?  the infamous one.. :P
[02:52] <Arezura> then i copied the wow folder to my .wine
[02:52] <Fr0zen__> yes
[02:52] <Fr0zen__> 4328
[02:52] <Fr0zen__> i installed ubuntu earlier today
[02:53] <Fr0zen__> got it all pimped out for my flight tommorow
[02:53] <Fr0zen__> but wifi doesn't work :(
[02:53] <littlelambda> KOSHrf: what did you do to it before it stopped working?
[02:53] <jbg7474> binMonkey: I know I was in 8.04--not sure whether it retained that setup or whether the newer kernel "just works".  If you can refresh my memory about how to check, I'll investigate further.  I've forgotten how I set it up for 8.04
[02:53] <douglas> littlelambda, Hmm... I used mandriva linux before installed ubuntu, I know mandriva is KDE... (correct me if I'm wrong) I just wanted wanted to know the difference between these environments...
[02:53] <MnemonicPunk> And here I am again... *sigh* ^^ But this someone probably knows how to help me. I got Ubuntu installed, most things seem to work, only problem I can see at the moment is my sound card. I have a Intel HDA card, normal sound works well but the headphones don't do anything and don't mute the speakers when plugged in. Can someone help me?
[02:53] <KOSHrf> littlelambda, i didnt say it wasnt working
[02:53] <douglas> pw-_, Ok.. thanks :)
[02:53] <Arezura>  nouMenon, it will also download all the need fonts for wow
[02:53] <PATX> hello
[02:53] <KOSHrf> litlebuda, im getting 800x600 resolution, wich is not the right resolution for my laptop.
[02:53] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> tell me which rtXXXX is in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless
[02:53] <binMonkey> jbg7474: i don't know how to check; it's something about greping some file.
[02:54] <PATX> is it safe to download ubntu without a revovery dvd?
[02:54] <kitty_> MnemonicPunk, double click your speaker icon, you will see a speaker output and a headphone jack output
[02:54] <douglas> littlelambda, before installing*
[02:54] <binMonkey> jbg7474: wish me luck.  i going to do it now.
[02:54] <tarelerulz> Is there any program for tagging  vidoes/movies in any format ?
[02:54] <jbg7474> binMonkey: good luck--may the linux force be with you
[02:54] <kitty_> MnemonicPunk, they are seperate in the default drivers, so you'll have to mute the speakers and turn up the headphone jack if you want it that way
[02:54] <elvisds> PATX : i guess yes. there must me no harm
[02:54] <littlelambda> KOSHrf: you said you got 1024x768 before. what prompted the change?
[02:55] <MnemonicPunk> kitty_: Muting the "Front" one leaves me with no sound at all.
[02:55] <binMonkey> jbg7474: lol.  later.
[02:55] <nouMenon> Arezura, is the trial temporary?
[02:55] <kitty_> try just turning it all the way down
[02:55] <kitty_> on 'master'
[02:55] <raynaqzo> helllo
[02:55] <KOSHrf> littlelambda, by before i mean "with other distros" and in windows.
[02:55] <PATX> elvisds:so when i download ubuntu it will not wipe out windows?
[02:55] <littlelambda> douglas: you can still run all your KDE apps in gnome. they just arnt as well 'intergrated' so to speak
[02:55] <Arezura>  nouMenon, it is like 14 days or something like that, but you only need it for an hours or so :)
[02:55] <douglas> littlelambda, How nice I thought you were an old ubuntu user lol... What distro did use before?
[02:55] <MnemonicPunk> kitty_: No sound at all. =(
[02:55] <KOSHrf> litlebuda, also by before i meant 8.04. I just installed a fresh 8.10 here.
[02:56] <GodfatherofEire> Well, I see a problem here n8tuser
[02:56] <Flannel> PATX: downloading it won't do anything.  Once you install, you can dualboot, yes.  Which won't mess up windows.
[02:56] <kitty_> but turning up the headphone jack works for headphones?
[02:56] <Flannel> !dualboot | PATX
[02:56] <littlelambda> douglas: Mac OS X. Gentoo before that.
[02:56] <raynaqzo> all of you do you use ubuntu ?
[02:56] <Danny1> are there any linux drivers for Broadcom BCM4301 wifi chip, all google resutls show stuff back in 02, thanks
[02:56] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> tell..
[02:56] <Arezura> its basically wine with an easy installer and preconfigured wow setup
[02:56] <yowshi> i need some help upgrading to intrepid the option to u[pgrade isnt there in my update manager
[02:56] <elvisds> PATX: no. download the live cd from ubuntu.com. Make spearate space for ubuntu in Windows.
[02:56] <PATX> Flannel:ok thanks man
[02:56] <Flannel> yowshi: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:56] <PATX> elvis:thnaks
[02:56] <yowshi> Flannel: hardy desktop
[02:56] <GodfatherofEire> Or not, wrong kernel version
[02:56] <elvisds> PATX : lookup google for more info
[02:57] <yowshi> Flannel: 8.04
[02:57] <nouMenon> Arezura, thanks for your help. I have to restart real quick. I may be back.
[02:57] <elvisds> PATX: you're welcome
[02:57] <douglas> littlelambda, do you intend to leave Mac OS X? Do you work with it?
[02:57] <PATX> ok
[02:57] <Arezura> ok
[02:57] <raynaqzo> hu hu
[02:57] <n8tuser> yowshi-> are you sure you want to upgrade not a fresh install? hang around for a few and observed the issues of upgrade from others
[02:57] <Flannel> yowshi: Are you completely up to date?  Go to software sources (system, admin, software sources) Do you have hardy-updates enabled?  Also, do you have it set to upgrade to a new version only for LTS or for all versions?
[02:57] <nouMenon> Arezura, t hanks again.
[02:57] <KOSHrf> hello, i have a question, how do i change display resolutions in 8.10? it seems the X11 doesnt care about xorg.conf and the "graphical" program only gives me 800x600 (i can get way more). Xrand doesnt seem to work either. I was used to get 1024x768 with VESA driver, now i can't get more than 800x600 (in 8.10).
[02:57] <yowshi> n8tuser: well yeah i dont wanna fresh install simply because i dxont want to lose my entire desktop
[02:57] <MnemonicPunk> kitty_: Now I'm getting strange crackling noises. Through the speakers.
[02:57] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser: Rtl8187-usb, I thought there was a problem, but I was looking under 2.6.27-7
[02:57] <kitty_> so i've spent 2 hours here and i'm not getting any closer to solving my issue... so i'll go back to a place where i don't have internet soon
[02:57]  * kitty_ waves
[02:58] <MnemonicPunk> kitty_: Good luck. =)
[02:58] <leftfinger1> again the <This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed.> issue, I followed MnemonicPunk 's advice (thanks to MnemonicPunk) but I found it seems hard for me to find a engine whose name is ''. So I went back to ask you guys..haha..anybody knows how to deal with it?
[02:58] <tab1293> hey, i have two drives in my computer. windows is one (hd0,0) and ubuntu on (hd1,0). I am having trouble booting into windows with grub. This is my config http://paste.ubuntu.com/66002/. i get error 13
[02:58] <littlelambda> douglas: I used mac os x for a while. I must now change over to another OS and linux was my choice before I got my first mac
[02:58] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> this is a usb wifi?
[02:58] <yowshi> Flannel: wait where would i check the lts thing. and there are 3 updates that have been around for a month or more that i cant select to accept. i think they are for the 32 bit version and i am on 64 bit
[02:58] <douglas> Does anyone know how to emulate Nintendo 64 Roms on Ubuntu?  Where did you get it?
[02:59] <elvisds> KOSHrf: if its not getting solved, try #ubuntu-motu
[02:59] <Flannel> yowshi: Its inside software sources somewhere.
[02:59] <GodfatherofEire> And I'll be right back n8tuser
[02:59] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> tell me which rtXXXX is in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless  or paste in paste the contents of this dir
[02:59] <tab1293> billybigrigger: yes i have. people are complaining about windows dont being able to boot of slave drive. but windows is my master drive so i dont see the problem
[02:59] <GodfatherofEire> Need to get a longer Cat5
[02:59] <manolis> how can i join ubuntu classroom?
[02:59] <n8tuser> pastebin*
[02:59] <yowshi> Flannel: that fixed it i can now upgrade. thanks
[02:59] <Flannel> manolis: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[02:59] <manolis> thx
[02:59] <GodfatherofEire> I know what you meant
[02:59] <billybigrigger> tab1293, 13 : Invalid or unsupported executable format
[02:59] <billybigrigger> This error is returned if the kernel image being loaded is not recognized as Multiboot or one of the supported native formats (Linux zImage or bzImage, FreeBSD, or NetBSD).
[03:00] <KOSHrf> elvisds, i srsly doubt i will get an answer there. It is a dead channel.
[03:00] <yowshi> Flannel: i would do a fresh install but i cant find out how to back uo my desktop so i wind up with the same links files and stuff on the new desktop as well as the panel i have set up
[03:00] <douglas> littlelambda, Hmm... Why did u choose linux and ubuntu as your new system?
[03:00] <leftfinger1> MnemonicPunk: I get it from here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=70717&PHPSESSID=6
[03:00] <kc8pxy> why can't i play a dvd on hardy with totem
[03:00] <tab1293> billybigrigger: ok, but its windows
[03:00] <kc8pxy> ?
[03:00] <BuddytheRat> Hi peoples
[03:00] <yowshi> Flannel: you wouldnt know how to do tha would you?
[03:00] <Flannel> yowshi: You'll be fine upgrading.
[03:00] <billybigrigger> tab129, which order did you install in?
[03:00] <BuddytheRat> I have a real simple question
[03:00] <kitty_> tab1293 did you install grub to the mbr ?
[03:00] <BuddytheRat> Any takers?
[03:00] <Flannel> yowshi: Actually, you should put your home partition on a separate partition
[03:00] <Flannel> !separatehome | yowshi
[03:00] <tab1293> billybigrigger: i had windows first. than but in a new drive and installed ubuntu
[03:00] <elvisds> KOSHrf: oh k
[03:00] <yowshi> Flannel: not sure entirely about that heh. considering my grub has migrated for some trange unknown reason
[03:00] <GodfatherofEire> Whats the terminal dir list command?
[03:01] <tab1293> kitty_: im prettyy sure yeah
[03:01] <BuddytheRat> I have a question so simple I am embarrassed to be asking it
[03:01] <douglas> Aren't your both HDDs working anymore?
[03:01] <KOSHrf> elvisds, stop with the wrong information, #ubuntu-motu is _NOT_ a support channel, almost got me banned.
[03:01] <bimberi> BuddytheRat: just ask
[03:01] <yowshi> Flannel: my home folder is a seperate partition already. but last time i did this i still wound up losing my desktop panel
[03:01] <littlelambda> KOSHrf: care to pastebin your xorg.conf?
[03:01] <BuddytheRat> Kay, thanks bimberi
[03:01] <prince_jammys> GodfatherofEire: ls
[03:01] <douglas> littlelambda, Aren't your both HDDs working anymore?
[03:01] <kitty_> tab1293 fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:01] <BuddytheRat> So uh, how do I accept the Skype EULA? :x It is in my terminal window and I can't get past it
[03:01] <yowshi> Flannel: i got more then a few commands and links there i use frequently the commands i put there cause i kept forgetting them
[03:01] <Flannel> yowshi: Your configs for that panel are in your homefolder.  The only thing you'd have to do is reinstall whatever panel program you're using, it'll pick up the configs automatically.
[03:01] <BuddytheRat> I am trying to install it
[03:01] <elvisds> KOSHrf: yes, but when things get worst, i thought you could try the higherups. Sorry
[03:02] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks
[03:02] <MnemonicPunk> leftfinger1: Seems to work for others. Hm.
[03:02] <yowshi> Flannel: it's the ubnutu default. i dont have a panel programme that bar at the top of the desktop that i dont wanna lose
[03:02] <cyhdudu> 页面左边的＃Ubuntu-cn怎么没有了
[03:02] <n8tuser> yowshi-> may i suggest creating a cheatsheet too...helps immensely
[03:02] <tab1293> kitty_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/66005/
[03:02] <KOSHrf> littlelambda, it is the standard xorg.conf just with the 1024 modes added, nothing special.
[03:03] <yowshi> n8tuser: that doesnt help when your screen buggers up due to compiz relates issues
[03:03] <douglas> Anyone knows something about Nintendo 64 emulators on linux?
[03:03] <BuddytheRat> Anybody know?
[03:03] <billybigrigger> tab1293, you should pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:03] <littlelambda> douglas: niether. and this ubuntu live cd i burnt from a friends pc is corrupted enough that it won't install to the hdd
[03:03] <kriston> What HDTV cards work with Ubuntu out of the box?
[03:03] <kitty_> tab1293, what version of windows is that?
[03:03] <billybigrigger> tab1293, err .lst
[03:03] <n8tuser> yowshi-> its up to you, a cheatsheet of commands and procedures helps
[03:03] <cyhdudu> 机器人出来！聊天界面左边的Ubuntu-cn怎么没有啦？
[03:03] <tab1293> douglas: http://mupen64.emulation64.com/
[03:03] <kitty_> he did billybig
[03:03] <BuddytheRat> lol
[03:03] <tab1293> billybigrigger: i did
[03:03] <leftfinger1> MnemonicPunk: oh, that's a good idea anyway :D
[03:03] <tab1293> kitty_: xp
[03:04] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66007/
[03:04] <BuddytheRat> So does anybody know what I am doing wrong?
[03:04] <Arezura>  nouMenon, you find the link?
[03:04] <BuddytheRat> I pressed like every key
[03:04] <eshaase> is anyone having issues with firefox (3.0.1) crashing randomly on hardy?
[03:04] <leftfinger1> er...good news
[03:04] <GodfatherofEire> And be right back, switching cables
[03:04] <cyhdudu> 中文房间在哪呢？
[03:04] <bgcboyus> Anybody got drivers for Canon pixma Ip 1800 working with 8.10
[03:04] <RickZilla> Trying to use the command "apt-get install kcontrol", and I get an error that says "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:04] <RickZilla> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"  Not sure why I'm getting the error...can somebody help me out with this?
[03:04] <hvgotcodes> so i upgraded to intrepid and network manager is gone?
[03:04] <yowshi> n8tuser: besides i got only 4 commands on that panel compiz killers and screen res resseters and stuff. not enough to print out a cheat sheet. if you could find me a good complete list i would print it out and keep it by my comp
[03:04] <tab1293> http://paste.ubuntu.com/66002/ thats my menu.lst just in case you didnt see kitty_ and billybigrigger
[03:04] <kitty_> tab1293, do you have an xp install cd that you can use the recover menu from and you'd beable to fdisk /mbr ?
[03:04] <littlelambda> RickZilla: did you try prepending sudo to the command?
[03:05] <RickZilla> I don't know what that is
[03:05] <jbg7474> BuddytheRat: not sure I understand your question--I installed skype but I think it was all graphical--don't remember doing anything special to accept the license
[03:05] <billybigrigger> tab1293, thnks, i scrolled up and re-read your first msg sorry i missed it
[03:05] <RickZilla> How do I do that?
[03:05] <tab1293> kitty_: wouldnt that remove grub?
[03:05] <littlelambda> littlelamda: just type "sudo" and then the command in the terminal
[03:05] <BuddytheRat> I am installing Skype through the terminal and I get to an EULA screen but I have no idea how to accept it and move on. What do I need to do?
[03:05] <maynards-girl> how do I increase my screen resolution above 800x600?
[03:05] <n8tuser> yowshi-> create one your own, customized to your needs
[03:05] <sea> 机器不知道在干吗。
[03:05] <RickZilla> littlelambda:  Thanks, I'll try that out
[03:05] <kitty_> yeah but you have 2 hard drives, you can always install grub on the second one's mbr and just tell ntldr to boot it from thjere
[03:05] <hvgotcodes> what replaces network-manager in intrepid?
[03:05] <leftfinger1> cyhdudu: #ubuntu-cn
[03:05] <_sergiu> hi, can anyone tellme how to upgrade from hardy to next realise
[03:05] <kitty_> or you can make a backup of your mbr and re-write it after you get windows booting
[03:05] <_sergiu> )
[03:05] <Flannel> !cn | sea
[03:05] <Kumo> Okay, I managed, finally, to get a properly burned DVD and am reinstalling 8.10 from scratch.
[03:06] <BuddytheRat> If there isa graphical installer then that would solve my problem probably
[03:06] <sea> #ubuntu-cn
[03:06] <tab1293> kitty_: theres no way to edit my menu.lst to make windows boot?
[03:06] <Flannel> sea: /join #ubuntu-cn
[03:06] <Kumo> Should I reformat the whole thing and wipe the previous install?
[03:06] <bgcboyus> _sergiu pres ALT F2 type update-manger -d
[03:06] <bimberi> !upgrade | _sergiu
[03:06] <sea> sorry...thanks
[03:06] <kitty_> it looks like it is proper right now
[03:06] <douglas> littlelambda, I thought the problem was with your computer... I downloaded Ubuntu twice to get it installed... My old Cds (from about 2 months ago) were also corrupted
[03:06] <kitty_> i don't see what you could do to fix it from grub
[03:06] <Flannel> BuddytheRat: This is in synaptic?  Type into that terminal
[03:06] <Yoshi> grrr forgot the password to hboth my regitered nicks
[03:06] <n8tuser> tab1293-> my fav resource on grub   http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[03:06] <tab1293> kitty_: what do you think the problem is?
[03:06] <con-man> con-man@con-man-desktop:~$ service --status-all
[03:06] <con-man> --status-all does nothing on Debian
[03:06] <kitty_> if you have the xp cd you're better off then i am, i'm screwed just like you are but i can't find my install cd
[03:07] <con-man> what does that mean
[03:07] <con-man> I want service --status-all
[03:07] <BuddytheRat> I am not using synaptic
[03:07] <maynards-girl> !screen resolution | maynards-girl
[03:07] <meoblast001> how do i cross compile to different architectures?
[03:07] <fzfh> _sergiu: sudo update-manager -dc
[03:07] <kitty_> can you mount your ntfs partition ? and see its contents?
[03:07] <BuddytheRat> Just typed "aptitude install skype" or whatever
[03:07] <BuddytheRat> in terminal
[03:07] <tab1293> kitty_: yeah
[03:07] <_sergiu> thanks
[03:07] <maynards-girl> !resolution | maynards-girl
[03:07] <Flannel> BuddytheRat: Then just type 'y'
[03:07] <kitty_> does it look right?
[03:07] <BuddytheRat> Tried that.
[03:07] <tab1293> kitty_: yeah everythign is fine
[03:07] <douglas> tab1293, thanks.. is that the only choice? I have it installed here... When I start the game, the program simply disappears on the screen :(
[03:07] <con-man> any way I can get "service --status-all" to work?
[03:07] <Fiveipads> Problem: I set my resolution too high with HDMI and now i cant see the screen, i need to resize the resolution with the command
[03:07] <jbg7474> BuddytheRat: I believe I installed it from a package I got from the website.  I just followed the directions and all was well.
[03:07] <kitty_> i'd suggest you just redo the mbr as the fastest solution
[03:08] <plouffe> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10 I keep getting program windows grayed out and unresponsive to any mouse clicks or such. Wth is up with that?
[03:08] <BuddytheRat> okay, I will try different install methods
[03:08] <maynards-girl> !how do I increase my screen resolution | maynards-girl
[03:08] <BuddytheRat> thanks
[03:08] <kitty_> if you can get windows to boot after that then you can backup your mbr's and reinstall grub and work from there
[03:08] <tab1293> douglas: try reading the documentation on the program
[03:08] <Yoshi> n8tuser: heh i tried a grub install on /dev/sda1 to fix my last grub problem and the grub wound up on sda2 somehow
[03:08] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser, back
[03:08] <littlelambda> douglas: the problem is that I had to replace the hard drive with an empty one with no OS, and the  mac os x install disks i had installed as images on an external drive, which also failed. So now im in the situtation of having no OS and the only install CD i have is this corrupt ubuntu one :(
[03:08] <tab1293> kitty_: ok whats the command on the repair cd
[03:08] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[03:08] <tab1293> just fixmbr right?
[03:08] <Arezura>  nouMenon, relogging
[03:08] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> do an ls -la  not jsut ls  it hurts my eyes reading your last paste
[03:08] <BuddytheRat> Ooh hey. An ubuntu link right on the skype website
[03:09] <BuddytheRat> this helps
[03:09] <kitty_> you can either use the recovery console (its a command line from your windows install) or you can use the repair windows install
[03:09] <BuddytheRat> thank you
[03:09] <GodfatherofEire> Ok
[03:09] <jbg7474> BuddytheRat: good luck!
[03:09] <bob__> Hello all! I just got a used Dell Inspiron 600m and loaded Ubuntu 8.04 on it. I am having the following problem. When ever I am typing the place where I type moves to where ever the mouse is. Just bang moved. I looked for a setting but couldn't find one. HELP!
[03:09] <BuddytheRat> Bye for now you will undoubtedly see me again soon!
[03:09] <kitty_> if you use the recovery console use fdisk /mbr to redo the mbr
[03:09] <BuddytheRat> thanks jpg
[03:09] <BuddytheRat> jbg*
[03:09] <kbp> I am using Ubuntu 8.4 what theme should I download from gnome-look so it works? GTK1.x, GTK2.x or  GDM or what else?? please help ! I'm a noob
[03:09] <bgcboyus> Anybody got drivers for Canon pixma Ip 1800 working with 8.10
[03:09] <kitty_> anyways night guys, i'm gonna kill myself later
[03:09] <tab1293> ok thanks
[03:09] <tab1293> wish me luck
[03:09] <Flannel> kbp: gtk2
[03:09] <hvgotcodes> what replaces network-manager in intrepid?
[03:09] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> check your boot prioty in your bios and make sure grub looks at it as the same priority
[03:09] <kbp> Flannel: thanks alot
[03:10] <Flannel> kbp: GDM is the screen you log in at.
[03:10] <kbp> Flannel: ???
[03:10] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66009/
[03:10] <Fiveipads> i set my resolution too high how do i resize from the command line
[03:10] <billygalbreath> hello all! i am trying to get fluxbox to automatically open on boot without a login manager like gdm/kdm/xdm. I have searched for hours on google but everthing points to the 'easy' way out by using gdm/kdm's auto login feature. I _need_ to bypass the login manager's at all cost. I have figured out how to auto login to tty1 but my .bash_profile fails to let me startx from there giving me a "cannot start x from this shell" (
[03:10] <billygalbreath> or something similar) error. I have tried other methods, all which have failed me. most things i try bring me to a dead tty1 (dead meaning i get no prompt. not even the text login will work there) any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated! :D
[03:10] <nate_> Hi, I am trying to set up a SAMBA share with my old computer running ubuntu 6.06, thats not the problem, the  problem is that i have an external drive connected to it and I cannot get it to share properly.
[03:10] <PATX> !list
[03:10] <kbp> Flannel: so I should download both GDM and GTK 2.x ?
[03:10] <maynards-girl> how do I increase my screen resolution above 800x600?
[03:10] <bgcboyus> hvgotcodes  nothing it is still there but I prefer nm-applet
[03:10] <leftfinger1> Thank you guys! (especially MnemonicPunk) I will try some other methods. bye~
[03:10] <Yoshi> n8tuser: the bios used to look at sda1 as the hard drive to boot from but trying that after the grub install got me a grub error 17. i tried sda2 next and it booted
[03:11] <Flannel> kbp: If you want to theme your desktop, that'd be the GTK2 themes.   Why don't u download the ubuntu iso again, and burn it? Your live cd has detected your new Hdd? can't u save files on it?
[03:11] <meoblast001> Uplink: copy your /etc folder and your /home folder to the new Ubuntu
[03:11] <lucax> Uplink, you gnome configuration?
[03:11] <jbg7474> plouffe: I've noticed this a bit more in 8.10, but not enough to aggravate me
[03:11] <maynards-girl> ittlelambda, thanks, i'll look over that
[03:11] <kbp> Flannel: ok I think I've got the basic concept now! (just switched from XP to Ubuntu yesterday so still noob)
[03:11] <plouffe> They totally fucked up with that release
[03:12] <doggymenz> if my terminal is garbled, is tere any way i can fix it?
[03:12] <GodfatherofEire> I thought it was a little too short
[03:12] <kbp> Flannel: thanks alot I'll give it a try
[03:12] <meoblast001> Uplink: then copy a list of packages installed... forget where that is located.. and place it in the appropriate spot on the new system
[03:12] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> because as i have said, grub priority is not same as what your bios priority, get that in sync so they are compatible
[03:12] <meoblast001> google could help with that
[03:12] <Flannel> !cloning | Uplink, meoblast001
[03:12] <Uplink> (meoblast001): its on the same pc
[03:12] <littlelambda> douglas: yep, but I cant eject the live cd to burn the iso. Thats what I was asking on here for, but it seems no one knows how
[03:12] <Yoshi> n8tuser: see i dont completly understand what your talking about with grub and bios priority
[03:13] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66011/ I hope I got this right for you
[03:13] <meoblast001> Uplink: by new machine i meant new installation on same machhine =P
[03:13] <nate_> Or how can i use pure-ftpd to be able to make the external device the root directory for users bc i have an ftp server set up
[03:13] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> never mind
[03:13] <Yoshi> n8tuser: i get bios priority. as in the spot bios looksfor the boot loader
[03:13] <alecwh> I just installed 8.10, and my touchpad is irritatingly slow. How do I make it faster?
[03:13] <bob__> Hello all! I just got a used Dell Inspiron 600m and loaded Ubuntu 8.04 on it. I am having the following problem. When ever I am typing the place where I type moves to where ever the mouse is. Just bang moved. I looked for a setting but couldn't find one. HELP!
[03:13] <Yoshi> n8tuser: but i dont get grub priority
[03:13] <Uplink> (meoblast001): well the thing is that i turned off the upgrade cause it froze, now my ubuntu wont load... i was upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10
[03:13] <meoblast001> how do i make sure something is compiled with GCC 4.1 and not another version?
[03:14] <meoblast001> ahh yes.. my sisters machine did that from 7.10 to 8.04
[03:14] <alecwh> !touchpad
[03:14] <meoblast001> i recommend burning an alternate cd and using that to upgrade
[03:14] <Uplink> (meoblast001): yup i just downloaded and burned 8.10
[03:14] <littlelambda> alecwh: does the pointer accelration option under System > Prefrences > Mouse help??
[03:14] <douglas> littlelambda, lol... I thought things were easier...
[03:14] <detrate> Can anyone recommend Some good task/management / client management software?
[03:14] <bimberi> meoblast001: 'export CC=gcc-4.1'
[03:15] <billygalbreath> hello all! i am trying to get fluxbox to automatically open on boot without a login manager like gdm/kdm/xdm. I have searched for hours on google but everthing points to the 'easy' way out by using gdm/kdm's auto login feature. I _need_ to bypass the login manager's at all cost. I have figured out how to auto login to tty1 but my .bash_profile fails to let me startx from there giving me a "cannot start x from this shell" (
[03:15] <billygalbreath> or something similar) error. I have tried other methods, all which have failed me. most things i try bring me to a dead tty1 (dead meaning i get no prompt. not even the text login will work there) any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated! :D
[03:15] <bruenig> hi guys
[03:15] <Flannel> !repeat | billygalbreath
[03:15] <douglas> littlelambda, where do u live? What's the time there now?
[03:15] <cyhdudu> join #ubuntu-cn
[03:15] <meoblast001> bimberi, thanx
[03:15] <bruenig> billygalbreath: easy way to do it is using inittab
[03:15] <n8tuser> Yoshi->http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm  and search for error 17 on this page
[03:15] <alecwh> littlelambda: not really, it's still extremely small
[03:15] <billygalbreath> Brucee, inittab is empty
[03:15] <Uplink> how can i reinstall my ubuntu without loosing my applications and config? btw, my ubuntu wont boot up so im using a livecd
[03:15] <billygalbreath> no file there
[03:15] <littlelambda> douglas: Im in the UK, its 3:15am here. Im a night owl
[03:16] <jbg7474> bob_: I believe there's a setting for how mouse focus behaves.  Suggest poking around System...Preferences...Windows--perhaps you have "Select windows when the mouse moves over them"
[03:16] <bruenig> billygalbreath: really? No /etc/inittab?
[03:16] <billygalbreath> really
[03:16] <Flannel> bruenig: not since edgy
[03:16] <mrwislr> hi everyone
[03:16] <MrKeuner> hi all, I have just upgraded my system from 8.04 to 8.10 and evolution warned me that it would be converting my data to some database format. After the conversion I lost the e-mails in my imap accounts. is there anywhere I can look for them somewhere?
[03:16] <nate_> Can someone help me set the default directory for pure-ftpd to an external device? I need to be able to log in to it from an xbox that isnt suprting file manager. So i need the default directory to be the external device
[03:16] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> your wific is RT8189 ?
[03:16] <bruenig> Flannel: but how?
[03:16] <Fiveipads> How do i resize the resolution in ubuntu from the command line i set the resolution too high
[03:16] <Flannel> bruenig: What?
[03:16] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: can you paste the exact error message you got when trying to startx from bash_profile?
[03:16] <bruenig> Flannel: sysv no?
[03:16] <bruenig> oh upstart that's right
[03:16] <douglas> littlelambda, :)
[03:16] <Flannel> bruenig: no.  upstart.
[03:16] <n8tuser> Fiveipads-> man xrandr
[03:16] <michael__> Fiveipads: I need to know this too!
[03:16] <mrwislr> when i do a search in synaptic it only shows installed programs..... i checked the filters but everything is checked for search
[03:16] <Azhi_Dahaka> hmm
[03:16] <mrwislr> not sure what the problem is
[03:16] <Uplink> how can i reinstall my ubuntu without loosing my applications and config? btw, my ubuntu wont boot up so im using a livecd
[03:17] <Flannel> mrwislr: Do you have a healthy sources.list?
 There isnt much there. Speed, sensitivity etc but nothing that sounds like "hover, click"
[03:17] <pw-_> i got my AR242x working with ath5k, however it's rather slow, and what little speed i have seems to come in bursts, what could be causing this?
[03:17] <Fiveipads> im doing sudo xrandr -s 1360x768 in a failsafe terminal
[03:18] <littlelambda> bob__: Dwell click?
[03:18] <jbg7474> bob_: did you see the very top option, "Select windows when the mouse moves over them"?
[03:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm getting A LOT of not available packages... i had some third party repos but i remove every single one of them when upgrading to intrepid
[03:18] <Fiveipads> but it wont save the resolutoin change
[03:18] <billygalbreath> littlelambda, bash: no job control in this shell
[03:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i flush all those unavailable packages?
 I don't see it anywhere
[03:19] <cyhdudu> #ubuntu-cn
[03:19] <mrwislr> when i do a search in synaptic it only shows installed programs..... i checked the filters but everything is checked for search
[03:19] <littlelambda> bob__ it is under the accessablity tab under System > Preferences > Mouse. on 8.10 at least
[03:19] <ivx> hi i wanted to cap my internet at 256k both ways to see what it feels like (thinking of downgrading to save money) how can I do this in ubuntu?
 I see it but it isn't clicked
[03:20] <Hilton> Okay so, Ubuntu 8.10 is installed and running...but it's freezing up. The GUI after a few minutes stops working - any animations freeze, fades stop halfway, etc. Except the mouse keeps moving.
[03:20] <Hilton> So... ... what's my fix?
[03:20] <RickZilla> I just installed  kdebase-workspace-bin...how do I run it from the terminal?
[03:21] <murlidhar> do i have to burn the alternate cd to upgrade  . can't i mount it to upgrade ?
[03:21] <mrwislr> Hilton: you probably don't have the correct graphics driver install
[03:21] <littlelambda> bob__: just an idea, must be something else
[03:21] <Yoshi> waaaaait a MINUTEW\
[03:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> yes, you can mouny iy
[03:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> mount it
[03:21] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> does it have an execute perms for your user?
[03:21] <murlidhar> Azhi_Dahaka: mounted but ./cdupgrade gives errors
[03:21] <ziroday> Hilton: can you open a terminal and type in metacity --replace, does this stop the freezing?
[03:21] <RickZilla> n8tuser:  ummmm...I have no idea
[03:21] <Yoshi> n8tuser: when you use the grub install --recheck thing do you have to count your partitions the way grub would or the way ubuntu would?
[03:21] <RickZilla> Sorry, new ubuntu user here
[03:22] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser, was that what you were looking for?
[03:22] <Hilton> mrwislr: RIght now it's whatever Ubuntu installed by default. I went to Hardware Drivers, and the Proprietary ATI driver came up, but it froze partway through the download.
[03:22] <rivalarrival> ivx: I think you can do it with shoreline firewall
[03:22] <mrwislr> when i do a search in synaptic it only shows installed programs..... i checked the filters but everything is checked for search
[03:22] <mrwislr> Hilton: then do it again
[03:22] <n8tuser> RickZilla-> oh wait you said you already installed, log off or maybe reboot
[03:22] <douglas> Hey why can't I see the first messages since I arrived here on my X-Chat? Your new messages are being sent, the first one are disappearing...
[03:22] <voyweiser> server irc.dal.net
[03:22] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> your wifi card  is RT8189 ?
[03:22] <Gods_gift> Hi there
[03:23] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: hmmmm. Does startx from the terminal?
[03:23] <littlelambda> work*
[03:23] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> grub
[03:23] <ivx> rivalarrival, is that hardware or software, is it in repos
[03:23] <mrwislr> when i do a search in synaptic it only shows installed programs..... i checked the filters but everything is checked for search
[03:23] <GodfatherofEire> It's actually an RT8185
[03:23] <Uplink> how can i reinstall my ubuntu without losing my applications and config? btw, my ubuntu wont boot up so im using a livecd 8.10
[03:23] <Azhi_Dahaka> no ideas?
[03:23] <Hilton> mrwislr: Alright .. But if my video is freezing, why would the mouse still work?
[03:23] <Yoshi> n8tuser: then the first partition would be sda0 blargle no wonder it buggered
[03:23] <GodfatherofEire> Looked up the laptop specs, thats whats in this thing
[03:23] <ziroday> Uplink: have you tried the "Repair" options?
[03:23] <Gods_gift> can anyone tell me why when i reboot box my nic mac address changed to default
[03:23] <Uplink> (ziroday): where is the "repair" ?
[03:23] <billygalbreath> littlelambda, startx from terminal works fine
[03:24] <temppy> pleeeeease,  how do I get rid of the stupid keyring dialog!!!??
[03:24] <mrwislr> Hilton: no reason to wonder if you know how to fix it
[03:24] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser:  Looked up the laptop specs, thats whats in this thing
[03:24] <apyles_home> hi does anyone know if there is a way to log kernel panics to a file?
[03:24] <GodfatherofEire> The 8185 that is
[03:24] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: what is your bash_profile?
[03:24] <ziroday> Uplink: if you have a hardy cd then it has a repair option, intrepid should have it to but not so sure about that
[03:24] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> counting the partition is described on that resource i gave you a link
[03:24] <LF|Irssi> does cron start automatically when ubuntu is restarted? or do i have to add something to a start up file?
[03:24] <billygalbreath> only line not commented has startx
[03:24] <mrwislr> when i do a search in synaptic it only shows installed programs..... i checked the filters but everything is checked for search
[03:25] <rivalarrival> ivx: package "shorewall" - I seem to remember QOS settings that would allow you to limit the rate. I've only ever set it up using webmin.
[03:25] <Uplink> (ziroday): nope dont have hardy... have 7.04 and since then been upgrading until 8.04 and now that i was about to upgrade but ran bad
[03:25] <musashi> i seem to recall a terminal command (might be a package i had to install first) that would report the wan ip address. does this sound familiar to anyone
[03:25] <littlelambda> have you tried moving it to .bashrc
[03:25] <ziroday> Uplink: I guess you could also copy your /home/<username> folder (including all the hidden files) and then copy it in the new intrepid install
[03:25] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> but from the list of drivers you pasted, rt8185 seems not available, so look for what the correct wifi driver is used for that
[03:25] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: that last post was for you, sorry
[03:26] <ziroday> musashi: you mean your current ip address?
[03:26] <Uplink> (ziroday): only /home?
[03:26] <LF|Irssi> does cron start automatically when ubuntu is restarted? or do i have to add something to a start up file?
[03:26] <Yoshi> n8tuser: Editing GRUB's device.map not in this section it doesnt and i DONT feel like reading an entire article on grub to fix a very very specific problem which up until now has never occured and will probably never occur ever again
[03:26] <musashi> ziroday, current external wan ip, corrent
[03:26] <GodfatherofEire> I already know, RT8180 generic patched to Ubuntu via Ndiswrapper n8tuser
[03:26] <Hilton> mrwislr: Keeps freezing before it can get past 0% (although this time it sat without freezing at 0% for several minutes) ... is there some sort of safe mode I can boot into, or can you tell me how to do it from command-line?
[03:26] <musashi> s/corrent /correct
[03:26] <GodfatherofEire> Worked fine till the new update manager
[03:26] <ziroday> Uplink: you need your /home/<username> folder and that should backup most of your settings. However this may cause issues in intrepid
[03:27] <temppy> Uplink: did the commands I gave you fail?
[03:27] <ziroday> musashi: you can see it with ifconfig
[03:27] <gnutron> LF|Irssi: cron starts on boot, always.
[03:27] <Uplink> (temppy): i cant get a terminal :(
[03:27] <musashi> ziroday, that only shows my lap ip. not the wan
[03:27] <LF|Irssi> thanks gnutron
[03:27] <Uplink> (ziroday): thanx... :(
[03:27] <rdvon> Trying to burn a live cd on 8.04 but have figured out that my cd drive won't burn anything! It's a linux error I'm sure because I was able to burn cd's in windows (when it was installed)
[03:27] <temppy> Uplink: well, you can use a livecd too
[03:27] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> if you keep blaming the upgrade, perhaps you can re-install the old one and you will be happier?
[03:28] <ziroday> musashi: err. your lan and wan ip will be the same? Do you mean your ip outside your network, the one the internet see's?
[03:28] <Yoshi> n8tuser: i happen to be rather susceptible to i formation overload and finding the bloody information i need in amongst the other stuff i would have to read to find it would cause my brain to fuzz out
[03:28] <littlelambda> rdvon: What exactly is the problem?
[03:28] <Uplink> (temppy): how
[03:28] <mrwislr> when i do a search in synaptic it only shows installed programs..... i checked the filters but everything is checked for search
[03:28] <rdvon> littlelambda: I'll run brasero through command line and tell you what's up, hold on.
[03:28] <Yoshi> n8tuser: at which point when i come across the solution i wouldnt be able to remember it later anyway
[03:28] <GodfatherofEire> Blaming it, no, but on thinkpad, it shows up as being a bug, whether or not it was from the beta stages of 8.10, I dont know
[03:28] <temppy> Uplink: well, you boot up with the livecd, and then mount your drive, then chroot, and proceed
[03:28] <GodfatherofEire> *launchpad
[03:28] <musashi> ziroday, yes, i want to see my external wan ip from a terminal. there is a command that does this. i used it before but forgot
[03:28] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> thats why i said earlier, i have a cheatsheet  :P
[03:28] <Uplink> (temppy): oh can u be more specific please?
[03:29] <gnutron> mrwislr: in synaptic, enable all repositories and re-load maybe.
[03:29] <Yoshi> n8tuser: but this wouldnt go ona cheat sheet. in 2 years of using ubuntu i have never had this problem. like ever
[03:29] <shane2peru> ok, I need some ATI Radeon HD3100 driver advice.
[03:29] <Uplink> (temppy): my username is uplink
[03:29] <shane2peru> !Radeon
[03:29] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> if you believed it is indeed a bug, then all we are doing now is spinning our wheels for nothing
[03:29] <rdvon> littlelambda: seems brasero doesn't output any info when running through temrinal.
[03:29] <ziroday> musashi: you mean the ip address turned up by this site http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[03:29] <Yoshi> n8tuser: this is one of those fluke [problems whose cause i have no buggering clue but probably inclused something to do with planetary alignment :)
[03:29] <arezura> nouMenon, you horde :) ?
[03:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> guys, anyone knows how can i remove a lot of uninstalled and unavailable packages of my apt-get database?
[03:30] <shane2peru> anyone out there using Ibex and ATI graphics card?
[03:30] <musashi> ziroday, yep, that one. but i want to find it from a term not a gui
[03:30] <temppy> Uplink: Im sure you may not follow that, but the first step would be to get a livecd.    Buuuuut, you may want to go a different direction: create a separate /home partition, rsync your settings, then do a clean install of whatever ubuntu you are going for
[03:30] <qb|sleep> apt-get remove ?
[03:30] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> proly yeah,  hehe
[03:30] <shane2peru> should I install the ATI 8.10 drivers on there page?
[03:30] <littlelambda> rdvon: Wonderful. Anything from any of the X apps?
[03:30] <GodfatherofEire> Ι'm not sayin it is or isnt n8tuser, I'm saying that it is possible, but it Was working so I'm operating on the presumption that it wasnt
[03:30] <shane2peru> their page?
[03:30] <muggins> hi
[03:30] <nouMenon> Arezura, ha ha, I actually haven't played in a really long time. I am just picking it up again a littl ebit to play with my buddy once in a while . I think we're going to be blood elves, so yes, Horde. You? : )
[03:30] <shane2peru> !ati
[03:30] <gnutron> Azhi_Dahaka: apt-cache clean ; i think
[03:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> from the DATABASE, not the FILESYSTEM
[03:30] <Uplink> (temppy): wouldnt that create conflicts with intrepid?
[03:30] <thiebaude> sudo apt-get autoremove, Azhi_Dahaka
[03:30] <mimor> musashi, is there such a command?
[03:31] <mimor> never know there was
[03:31] <arezura> nouMenon, im horde :P
[03:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> ..
[03:31] <mimor> I'd do wget http://www.whatismyip.com
[03:31] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> sudo  lsmod  8180   and lets see if that driver is loaded
[03:31] <temppy> Uplink: conflicts?
[03:31] <arezura> nouMenon, you get it working or try codeweavers?
[03:31] <shane2peru> any ati advisers in the house?
[03:31] <ziroday> musashi: ah not so sure then, sorry
[03:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> i don't want to remove packages from the filesystem, they already are gone
[03:31] <musashi> mimor, yes, there is. i've used it. however, i think it involved installing something first so not a pure bash command
[03:31] <Uplink> (temppy): idk? would it?
[03:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> i want to remove a lot of references on the DATABASE
[03:31] <mimor> i guess you ment a script
[03:31] <musashi> ziroday, okay, thanks for trying
[03:32] <mimor> that's not that hard at all
[03:32] <mimor> google
[03:32] <mimor> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-check-you-external-ip-address-from-the-command-line.html
[03:32] <Azhi_Dahaka> clean is an invalid operation for apt-cache
[03:32] <sajuuk> hey guys, i have a wacom tablet and it works alright but it doesnt work at all if i dont plug it in prior to ubuntu getting to the login screen, what command would i have to do to make it work properly, as in pressure sensors for GIMP?
[03:32] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser conor@ubuntu:~$ sudo lsmod 8180 // sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu // Usage: lsmod
[03:33] <musashi> mimor, yeah, wget can do it. i'm just trying to recall the tool/command i used a year or so ago. i thought maybe it would ring a bell with someone
[03:33] <Yoshi> n8tuser: grrr tab completion isnt working when i load gtrub from a terminal
[03:33] <gnutron> Azhi_Dahaka: apt-get clean
[03:33] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser I take it that that means that it's not loaded?
[03:33] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> sudo  lsmod |grep  8180   and lets see if that driver is loaded  my typo, forgot to add grep
[03:33] <waan> My usplash doesn't show after I upgraded to intrepid
[03:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> that doesn't work
[03:33] <gnutron> Azhi_Dahaka: updatedb
[03:33] <GodfatherofEire> no prob
[03:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> keeps refering to uninstalled packages on removed repos
[03:33] <arezura> nouMenon, if that doesnt work im installing osx and wow.. osx doesnt support d3d and it has an ati card so the config.wtf may be helpful. i'll pastebin it once its done
[03:33] <Hilton> What's the key to switch to command line from the GUI? Isn't it alt-2?
[03:33] <Uplink> (temppy): idk? would it?
[03:33] <infbliss> does intrepid ibex ship with the transmission bittorrent client by default
[03:33] <infbliss> ?
[03:34] <temppy> Uplink: I dunno, either way, if you don't have a bootable system, then you kinda have to get a bootable cd.  Its up to you
[03:34] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> dont know, if tab completion works within grub>  prompt
[03:34] <Azhi_Dahaka> what does mlocate has to do with apt?
[03:34] <Uplink> (temppy): space is an issue right now...
[03:34] <n8tuser> Hilton-> launch xterm or ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[03:34] <Yoshi> n8tuser: it is supposed to
[03:34] <kbp> how to install GDM theme? please help I'm new
[03:34] <Yoshi> n8tuser: your guide says it will
[03:34] <shane2peru> intrepid has gotten away from an xorg.conf file?
[03:34] <shane2peru> or no?
[03:34] <Aizawa> This..might be a stupid question, but is there a way to rename my whole user account?
[03:34] <littlelambda> Anyone know how I can get a working ubuntu install on to an empty hdd from the live cd if the install is complaining about an io error. I have internet access to download packages from the live session.
[03:35] <eitreach> I can't seem to enable Compiz without fusion-icon in Intrepid, and even with that, it only works the second time. This is constant with no change. What can I do to fix it?
[03:35] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> okay
[03:35] <Hilton> n8tuser: Thanks. I'm trying to change my video driver but the GUI freezes up before it can download. I need something outside the GUI.
[03:35] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser: unable to resolve host
[03:35] <temppy> Uplink: then maybe order a cd through shipit.  That will take like 2 months...
[03:35] <jkristheking> anyone wanna invite to iptorrents i got 2 left and im quiting the site
[03:35] <n8tuser> Hilton->  crtl+alt+f1 to f6
[03:35] <jbg7474> Does anyone know how to get a Palm to sync in 8.10?  Worked in 8.04, now it doesn't work at all in Intrepid.
[03:35] <billygalbreath> hey Flannel, since there is no /etc/inittab where would I respawn the tty's from? see link, step #3 to reference what i am trying to do -> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/automatically-log-into-xfce-without-a-login-manager/
[03:35] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> sudo  lsmod |grep  8180   answers what?
[03:36] <threeseas> Network manager has serious issues with cpu usage and memory eating.
[03:36] <ATLHawks> My "add printer" aka "add printer wizard" is missing from "printing", how do I add a network printer manually?
[03:36] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser "sudo: unable to connect to host ubuntu" and nothin else
[03:36] <GodfatherofEire> Just brings up another line
[03:36] <threeseas> somehow my xchat config and server list got eaten also (copied from a backup
[03:36] <GodfatherofEire> *unable to resolve host
[03:36] <tony_> GodfatherofEire: I've head that error for a while, although I havent dont anything about it, cuz it still kind workds, but annoying
[03:37] <Uplink> (temppy): i mean HDD
[03:37] <macvr> hi all... i upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 . and my azureus doesnt download...! but the same file downloads via transmission , and the ports are fine too , how do i make azureus work?
[03:37] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> oh you dont need sudo to lsmod,  just lsmod |grep 8180
[03:37] <Yoshi> n8tuser: according to what i see on kgrub it looks right
[03:37] <ldiamond> I have some sound issues. When I plug headphones in, I get no sound. When I plug them out, my laptop speakers work fine. Can anyone help out?
[03:37] <billygalbreath> GodfatherofEire, you need to edit /etc/hosts to match the name in /etc/hostname
[03:37] <murlidhar>  sudo ./cdromupgrade
[03:37] <murlidhar> tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//intrepid.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[03:37] <threeseas> 8.10 wasn't ready to be released
[03:37] <zachb> is it possible a power surge could only cause X to crash, without rebooting the computer?
[03:37] <mimor> musashi, all the things i encounter on google are based on wget
[03:37] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks billygalbreath
[03:38] <eshaase> is anyone having issues with firefox (3.0.1) crashing randomly on hardy?
[03:38] <murlidhar> i tried manually running the script to upgrade still nothing happens :(
[03:38] <murlidhar> eshaase: nopes
[03:38] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: did you have any luck with .bashrc?
[03:38] <GodfatherofEire> And n8tuser, its not bringin up anythin so I presume that that means its not being used?
[03:38] <hvgotcodes> why would sound stop working when going from hardy to intrepid?
[03:38] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> is it resolved yet? i dont think i even know what you were after, error 17 on grub?
[03:38] <musashi> mimor, yeah, me too. i know i did something different but can't for the life of me find it or remember it.
[03:38] <billygalbreath> littlelambda, to be honest, i didnt try it - i dont think that will do any different
[03:38] <littlelambda> eshaase: a search of the bug tracker might tell you
[03:39] <Aizawa> I don't want to nag about this, but is there a way to rename my user account?
[03:39] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> if no results its not loaded
[03:39] <GodfatherofEire> hvgotcodes, have you checked the sound prefs, to make sure that its usin ALSA or whatever your old sound setup was?
[03:39] <GodfatherofEire> Ok
[03:39] <shirish> hi all, does anybody know how to find the disk used by a directory on the CLI, for example the .purple directory
[03:39] <macvr> hi all... i upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 . and my azureus doesnt download...! but the same file downloads via transmission , and the ports are fine too , how do i make azureus work?
[03:39] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> look up on google what is the correct driver for your RT8185 wifi
[03:39] <Yoshi> n8tuser: well i was actually just wary. i want the grub to boot off /dev/sda1 which is where i put the boot partition on my install. i am worried that when i upgrade my grub will be all screwed and wont boot
[03:39] <shirish> I tried du -h .purple which is close but not close enough.
[03:39] <hvgotcodes> GodfatherofEire: i don't know what it was using before; it just worked.
[03:40] <mimor> musashi, the traceroute?
[03:40] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: I was thinking if your playing with the ttys didnt help, perhaps it was something to do with bash being interactive or a logon shell or something.
[03:40] <temppy> Uplink: I can't help with that.   When I plug headphones in, I get no sound. When I plug them out, my laptop speakers work fine. Can anyone help out?
[03:40] <hvgotcodes> GodfatherofEire: it is set to a bunch of autodetects.  which device should it be?
[03:40] <musashi> mimor, that might work too but it wasn't that. sorry to be difficult but i hate when i remember something but not fully. it's there. I just can't recall it
[03:41] <Uplink> (temppy): i got 8.10 already... i just burned it...
[03:41] <n8tuser> Yoshi-> okay, i dont know if i can give you high assurances that nothing will go wrong on an upgrade, i said earlier i prefer a fresh install of 8.10  vs upgrading
[03:41] <littlelambda> Aizawa: not as far as I know. You may need to create a new account, and then copy your files over. Adding the new one as the same group as your old one may ease the sting of losing some of your permissions
[03:41] <eitreach> I can't seem to enable Compiz without fusion-icon in Intrepid, and even with that, it only works the second time. This is constant with no change. What can I do to fix it?
[03:42]  * jbg7474 wishes the ubuntu forums were working
[03:42] <musashi> mimor, actually, i think it might have been a web site that was terminal friendly - if that makes sense
[03:42] <mib_bcunm4> Super silly question. I'm running a beta version of ibex. will "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" so all my upgrading to final?
[03:42] <musashi> mimor, and maybe it was wget but not the whatsmyip site
[03:42] <billygalbreath> littlelambda, i'll try the method you suggested as soon as this dist-upgrade finishes
[03:42] <Yoshi> n8tuser: meh i prefer upgrading. spend 6 months setting up my desktop programmes installing everything and getting all the settings perfect only to lose most if not all them and or have to reinstall all that stuff is not apealing. not to mention i no of no way to recover the desktop right. still ont convinced i wont lose my entire desktop on a fresh install while keeping my old home directory
[03:42] <King> good evening
[03:42] <temppy> Uplink: oh, brilliant!  boot that baby!
[03:43] <littlelambda> billygalbreath: Aye. Its a long shot, but all I can think off atm.
[03:43] <Uplink> (temppy): that means i would have to disconnect
[03:43] <temppy> Uplink: does the livecd support your internet?
[03:43] <mimor> musashi there are quite a lot of these sites :)
[03:43] <macvr> hi all... i upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 . and my azureus doesnt download...! but the same file downloads via transmission , and the ports are fine too , how do i make azureus work?
[03:43] <Uplink> (temppy): not sure... im on wi-fi
[03:44] <King> is anyone up for brainstorming tonigh?
[03:44] <RickZilla> In the terminal, how do I reference a file that is on my desktop?
[03:44] <GodfatherofEire1> So, n8tuser, I have the correct driver installed, so I dont know where the disconnect is
[03:44] <secion81> Anyone help with ubuntu mobile on samsung q1 ultra? When i try to boot I just get a apostrophe in the top left corner and nothing else happens.
[03:44] <billygalbreath> RickZilla, ~/Desktop/filename
[03:44] <RickZilla> billygalbreath:  Thanks, I knew it was something like that
[03:44] <temppy> Uplink: do you know how to mount and chroot?
[03:45] <njbair> hey i want to use dd to make an iso of a cdrom, but I can't figure out where my cdrom drive is under /dev. (it should probably be /dev/hda.) where does ubuntu place ide cdrom drives in the filesystem?
[03:45] <Uplink> (temppy): not really bro
[03:45] <arkey> somebody
[03:45] <anmar> hey guys.
[03:45] <arkey> help me?
[03:45] <King> i need some help with an external hard drive
[03:45] <arkey> i need help
[03:46] <anmar> does compiz on Intrepid work on dualhead setup?
[03:46] <qb|sleep> everyone needs help
[03:46] <qb|sleep> :P
[03:46] <King> what do u need arkey
[03:46] <arkey> please how to download mp3 in windows jaja
[03:46] <pw-> not everyone needs help =P
[03:46] <jbg7474> Does anyone know how to get a Palm to sync in 8.10?  Worked in 8.04, now it doesn't work at all in Intrepid.
[03:46] <qb|sleep> PFFFF
[03:46] <qb|sleep> Arkey: you speak spanish right?
[03:46] <hvgotcodes> GodfatherofEire: what setting do i want to play with in sound preferences to get sound working?
[03:46] <temppy> Uplink: do you know the partition location of your linux install?
[03:46] <arkey> yeah i speak spanish
[03:46] <secion81> Any info on how to boot ubuntu mobile on samsung q1 ultra?
[03:46] <qb|sleep> I could tell because of the "jaja"
[03:47] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> if you know the driver, which one is it?
[03:47] <arkey> jeje
[03:47] <mib_bcunm4> king what's wrong with your hd?
[03:47] <arkey> jij
[03:47] <arkey> jojo
[03:47] <arkey> juju
[03:47] <xorlim> arkey: try downloading mp3 in linux
[03:47] <FloodBot3> arkey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <qb|sleep> arkey: private message
[03:47] <GodfatherofEire1> RT8180
[03:47] <temppy> qb|sleep: whats jaja mean?
[03:47] <qb|sleep> jaja is haha in spanish
[03:47] <qb|sleep> just another way of "laughing"
[03:47] <King> it was given to me and i can't get it to show on my desktop
[03:47] <Uplink> (temppy): a little... but im a little low on space... 120GB dual booted with xp... i have a 40 ext hdd
[03:47] <xorlim> arkey: www.google.com <-- mp3 download
[03:47] <arkey> sorry, but st. claus say jojo and not speak spanish
[03:48] <King> i have search and tryed everything and still cant winn
[03:48] <temppy> qb|sleep: ah, I see!  I used to see that allot in an mmorpg.  Had no idea what it meant!
[03:48] <billygalbreath> King, you need to mount it
[03:48] <RickZilla> How can I copy a font file from my desktop to my .fonts folder in my home directory?
[03:48] <n8tuser> !who | GodfatherofEire
[03:48] <Agent_bob> what are the security implications with tty devices ?   i.e. if i can read/write to another uesrs /dev/tty#  how bad is that ?
[03:48] <sea> haha is in chinese to :)
[03:48] <mib_bcunm4> king, does it show in sudo fdisk -l ?
[03:48] <anmar> King what is up?
[03:48] <King> yes it does
[03:48] <xorlim> in finnish we say hah hah
[03:48] <King> sdv
[03:48] <bimberi> RickZilla: ctrl-H in nautilus (the file manager) will reveal the hidden files/directories
[03:48] <King> sdb
[03:48] <littlelambda> RickZilla: cp ~/Desktop/filename ~/.fonts
[03:48] <mib_bcunm4> king did you try mounting it?
[03:48] <jbg7474> Does anyone know how to get a Palm to sync in 8.10?  Worked in 8.04, now it doesn't work at all in Intrepid.
[03:48] <n8tuser> Agent_bob-> how was that possible?
[03:48] <GodfatherofEire1> N8tuser: RT8180, according to what I can find
[03:49] <King> yea i am pretty sure it is mounted
[03:49] <qb|sleep> temppy, which mmorpg?
[03:49] <RickZilla> littlelambda:  I tried that, but it's not working
[03:49] <xorlim> santa claus is joulupukki in finnish ("the christmas goat")
[03:49] <mib_bcunm4> king if it was mounted it would show on your desktop
[03:49] <lbd> hiya all, I'm trying to upgrade a machine from 8.04 -> 8.10 but I only have a copy of about 1600MB of the .deb files, I tried putting htem into /var/cache/apt but the system still tries to download all the packages rather than using the ones that I copied :(
[03:49] <littlelambda> RickZilla: whats the error?
[03:49] <Agent_bob> n8tuser ?
[03:49] <mib_bcunm4> king can you access it by going to "places" and locating it in that menu?
[03:49] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> okay, now type  sudo iwconfig  and what do you get?
[03:49] <King> so i am missing something
[03:49] <Agent_bob> n8tuser groups.
[03:49] <macvr> hi all... i upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 . and my azureus doesnt download...! but the same file downloads via transmission , and the ports are fine too , how do i make azureus work?
[03:49] <RickZilla> littlelambda:  Just a sec, let me get it up there again
[03:49] <n8tuser> Agent_bob-> how was that possible for you to read another users ttys ?
[03:49] <billygalbreath> King, it will not auto mount until you add it to /etc/fstab - so your first step would be to connect it to the computer, run dmesg|tail to see what device it is (sda/sdb) then to mount it and ake sure it works. if it works then add the device to /etc/fstab and it will automount to your Desktop (like a CD does) when you connect it
[03:49] <lbd> Is there some way I can make the distribution upgrade use the files I've got in /var/cache/apt rather than downloading?
[03:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> there should be a way to dump or clean that database
[03:50] <bimberi> lbd: they need to be put in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:50] <mib_bcunm4> king also listen to billy, it's good advice :)
[03:50] <lbd> thanks bimberi
[03:50] <temppy> Uplink: mk, but do you know about partitions?  and can you figure out which one is your linux partition?     anyway, you would mount that partition to a location, then chroot to that
[03:50] <Agent_bob> n8tuser every thing has permissions bits.
[03:50] <temppy> qb|sleep: it was a french one called dofus
[03:50] <King> k one sec
[03:50] <Uplink> (temppy): kinda
[03:50] <Yoshi> hehe since i have on cd's setting up a live pendrive. anyone have an UP TO Date manuals or how tos on this? i am using one form the edgy days maybe things have gotten easier or changed
[03:51] <jbg7474> Does anyone know how to get a Palm to sync in 8.10?  Worked in 8.04, now it doesn't work at all in Intrepid.
[03:51] <jkristheking> anyone wanna invite to a torrent site? (IP torrents)???
[03:51] <qb|sleep> temppy, I see... never heard of it
[03:51] <jkristheking> i only got one left so
[03:51] <DaveCave> question, ubuntu 8.10, User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored, how i fix this?
[03:51] <RickZilla> littlelambda:  n/m it worked that time, thanks for the help anyway
[03:52] <Agent_bob> so anyone have input on my quarry ?
[03:52] <mib_bcunm4> wat?
[03:52] <spiritssight1> How do I connect two ubuntu system togeher so I can move files / setings from one system to the other
[03:52] <GodfatherofEire1> So, any ideas why it was workin then but not now n8tuser?
[03:52] <billygalbreath> spiritssight1, use ftp, sftp, or nfs
[03:52] <DaveCave> spiritssite1: are they on a network?
[03:53] <Agent_bob> spiritssight1 sshd   scp
[03:53] <mib_bcunm4> spiritssight1, that's the most vague question i've ever heard in my entire life
[03:53] <mib_bcunm4> why?
[03:53] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> what is the results of iwconfig ?
[03:53] <DaveCave> smb://systemname/folder   spiritssight
[03:53] <Abdilah_Zein> www.ubuntu.com
[03:53] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: scp is way easy, and ubuntu has a simple way of doing it
[03:53] <Uplink> (temppy): should i try?
[03:53] <Yoshi> also anyone know if 8.1 works with nvidia ethernetr ports ? fiesty worked with them then hardy didnt i was wondering if intrepid fixed this issue
[03:53] <Uplink> !clone
[03:54] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: please, try Places -> Connect to Server ....
[03:54] <Agent_bob> rdw200169 does nautilus support the "fish" protocal ?
[03:54] <spiritssight1> rdw200169:  can you explain more please, both system is on the same network (router)
[03:54] <rdw200169> Agent_bob: i've never heard of the fish protocol
[03:54] <arkey> i need help to copy my images to my 5 1/4 floopy
[03:54] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: ok, simple; check it out: here's the case
[03:54] <GodfatherofEire1> Couldnt he also use rsync?
[03:54] <n8tuser> arkey  man dd
[03:55] <billygalbreath> spiritssight1, my favorite method is nfs as i can mount network shares from one box to another - quick and easy as pie - best solution if you plan to transfer files a lot (i.e., not a one time deal)
[03:55] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: 2 computers; on a LAN, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 for example
[03:55] <Agent_bob> rdw200169 in konqueror you can fish://url/   and it will do an ssh tunnel to  the other box so you can graphicly move files.
[03:55] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i check what package refers to another on the apt-get db?
[03:55] <secion81> Any help with booting a samsung q1 ultra from usb stick?
[03:55] <GodfatherofEire1> n8tuser: Keep in mind for some reason it's recognizing wlan0 as a wired connection, not a wireless http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66024/
[03:55] <arkey> n8tuser ?
[03:55] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: all you need to know is the ip of whatever computer you're trying to hop into, ubuntu-wise
[03:55] <secion81> Want to try ubuntu mobile on this thing.
[03:55] <Aquahallic> Evenin' folks
[03:56] <macvr> hi all... i upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 . and my azureus doesnt download...! but the same file downloads via transmission , and the ports are fine too , how do i make azureus work?
[03:56] <arkey> i have windows 3.11
[03:56] <Hilton> On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI the instructions say "Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do: " ... what does that mean?
[03:56] <qb|sleep> lol
[03:56] <arkey> n8tuser can you help me
[03:56] <King> [  113.469214] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[03:56] <King> [  113.469217] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[03:56] <King> [  113.469219] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[03:56] <King> [  113.469530]  sdb: sdb1[DM]
[03:56] <King> [  113.488415] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[03:56] <FloodBot3> King: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:56] <King> [  113.488473] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[03:56] <Agent_bob> rdw200169 bery handy.   even if it is kde :)
[03:56] <secion81> @arkey: nice.
[03:56] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: now, what i'm talking about is related to ssh; so you need a password and running openssh server on each computer
[03:56] <littlelambda> macvr: Doesn't download?
[03:56] <macvr> littlelambda: s... it just doesnt download !!!
[03:57] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire-> can you list the contents of  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/  and put this in pastebin
[03:57] <King> opps first time irc
[03:57] <littlelambda> macvr: no error or anything?
[03:57] <billygalbreath> King, sudo mkdir /mnt/usb; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[03:57] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me fix sound on Ubuntu 8.10?
[03:57] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: i prefer it, once you set it up from Public -> connect to server, really similar to the way you would do it on a Mac; it becomes like a normal folder
[03:57] <n8tuser> arkey not at the moment, i have to sit on the throne for a few <wink>
[03:57] <mib_bcunm4> billy doesn't ubuntu by default mount things in /media/ ?
[03:57] <DaveCave> what can i use to mount .iso's?
[03:58] <billygalbreath> i dont like /media
[03:58] <littlelambda> arkey: you need to copy files to a floppy in windows 3.11?
[03:58] <Noobcircle> whenever i play C&C3 in Cx games, my top and bottom bars show, anyway to stop that from happening?
[03:58] <GodfatherofEire1> n8tuser http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/66026/
[03:58] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: on top of that, the connect to server thing does ftp, and windows, but those both require a little more configuration to get working right
[03:58] <Aquahallic> can someone tell me a good ftp server to use? something with a gui interface?
[03:58] <mib_bcunm4> just saying he might get confused since other things no doubt mount there, but i guess it's not important
[03:58] <Spaz926> hello all
[03:58] <mib_bcunm4> ldiamond what sound card?
[03:58] <kriston> What HDTV cards work with Ubuntu Studio out of the box?
[03:58] <billygalbreath> Aquahallic, gftp
[03:58] <Noobcircle> Aquahallic, Filezilla
[03:58] <alecwh> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10, and I'm having issues with my synaptics touchpad (Dell Latitude D630). It is VERY slow... it takes forever to move the cursor. The small, blue, round mouse in the center of my keyboard (forgot the name of it) works fine. Here is my entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m1baa14d8
[03:58] <Flannel> Aquahallic: try filezilla
[03:58] <arkey> littlelambda yes
[03:58] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: ssh pretty much works right out of the box for filesharing
[03:58] <Aquahallic> for a ftp SERVER?
[03:58] <ldiamond> mib_bcunm4,  its a ALC883 from realtek (notebook soundcard)
[03:58] <Aquahallic> not a client
[03:59] <smalleyes> how do i resume a stalled packages updating/installation?
[03:59] <Hilton> I'm SERIOUSLY about to give up, say 'screw ubuntu' and go back to Windows
[03:59] <macvr> littlelambda: no... no error, tracker gets registered, says status ok, but no download!!! azureus is now vuze <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:59] <billygalbreath> Aquahallic, sry - didn't see the server part
[03:59] <mib_bcunm4> ldiamond what sound problems are you experiencing?
[03:59] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: helpful?
[03:59] <littlelambda> macvr: Then I would stick with transmisson if its being that unhelpfull.
[03:59] <P_Kable> anyone has a static IP setting in intrepid ?
[03:59] <billygalbreath> smalleyes, apt-get --configure maybe?
[03:59] <arkey> littlelambda help me please
[04:00] <DaveCave> hilton: linux isnt windows, its not fancy point and click, linux is designed to work better and it takes effort to do things correctly
[04:00] <ffej2ffej> Why is my UBUNTU server giving me a "Permission denied" message?  I am the administrator of the machine, I put most everything on there, and all of a sudden, everything I try to send returns that error message!
[04:00] <macvr> littlelambda:  hei... i just found something... i have 2 ... azureus and vuze!!! both say version <IP_ADDRESS>!!!
[04:00] <taime1> flash has stopped working after i upgraded it. it doesnt even realize its installed.. what gives?
[04:00] <DaveCave> ffej2ffej: use "sudo" before each command
[04:00] <mib_bcunm4> being "The administrator" doesn't automatically give you free rain on everything
[04:00] <spiritssight1> I was trying to keep up with reading the stuff I am gvoing to try in now
[04:00] <Hilton> DaveCave: Linux has caused me more problems in 2 hours than XP has in 2 months.
[04:00] <rdw200169> ffej2ffej: did you mess around with visudo?
[04:00] <littlelambda> arkey: can I pm you? Not really something for ubuntu support.
[04:01] <mib_bcunm4> hilton: then leave please, and go back to windows
[04:01] <ffej2ffej> Invalid command
[04:01] <Flannel> mib_bcunm4: Please don't do that.
[04:01] <jbg7474> Alec: I did this on a D620, exact same problem.  You have to use an fdi file in Intrepid.  If you PM me your email address, I'll send you the file I use.
[04:01] <DaveCave> hilton: the only problem linux has right now is nvidia drivers in 8.10 :-\
[04:01] <ldiamond> mib_bcunm4, I can hear some sounds from my laptop fine, but when I plug headphones, the sound is very low. Also, I was able to listen to mp3s before I reboot (my headphone didnt work at all then). Now I cant play mp3s
[04:01] <alecwh> Hilton: then go back, if you aren't willing to try further, and if you don't think linux will make things better, then why are you here?
[04:01] <Hilton> At least install a frickin basic universal VGA video driver with your OS, not something that freezes up within 2 minutes of loading every time.
[04:01] <ffej2ffej> BTW, I'm trying to send stuff via FTP.  I'm using the ftp client on my Macbook and vsftpd on the UBUNTU server.
[04:01] <xorlim> Hilton: VGA video driver problems?
[04:01] <macvr> littlelambda: i have a .azureus folder but i dont have a .vuze folder ... which should i remove? azureus/vuze?
[04:01] <King> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:01] <Flannel> alecwh: Please don't do that.
[04:01] <billygalbreath> ffej2ffej, your regular username is not root - you must type sudo before a command in order to get root privledges - if you want to login as root then use su but before running that for the first time you must set a root password by running sudo passwd but the best practice is to never use su and instead use sudo
[04:02] <Hilton> DaveCave: And ATI, since the drivers for my Radeon keep freezing up.
[04:02] <Addy> What can I do about monitor drivers in ubuntu? in 7.04 the drivers worked with my monitor fine, but in 7.10+ I get wacky resolutions and X sometimes crashes
[04:02] <rdw200169> Hilton: so blame ATI for writing garbage drovers
[04:02] <DaveCave> hilton: what version ubuntu? 8.04? .06? .10?
[04:02] <rdw200169> Hilton: Drivers
[04:02] <Hilton> .10
[04:02] <littlelambda> macvr: im not familliar with either, but I would guess vuze if its not created your config dir.
[04:02] <mib_bcunm4> hilton: what video card exactly? output of lspci | grep -i VGA
[04:02] <alecwh> Flannel: it's genuine advice, if he isn't willing to try further, and if he thinks windows XP will suit him better, it seems logical that he should return to "what works".
[04:02] <DaveCave> go back to 8.06 and u will be fine
[04:02] <Hilton> rdw200169: I would expect that ATI's drivers would work. These are the default open source ones that come with the OS.
[04:02] <gnutron> Hilton: you should read 8.10's release notes. seriously
[04:03] <Addy> can someone please help me with this?
[04:03] <DaveCave> hilton: 8.10 has driver issues with nvidia i know that, but im not sure about ATI
[04:03] <Addy> possibly in private, it's a bit busy in here :P
[04:03] <DaveCave> hilton: its being resolved as we speak
[04:03] <smalleyes> what's the BEST/Official way to install skype?
[04:03] <rdw200169> smalleyes: i'm pretty sure there's a .deb for skype
[04:03] <bimberi> smalleyes: from here: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/
[04:03] <Addy> noone? :(
[04:03] <smalleyes> rdw200169: yes i know, but is that the best way?
[04:04] <King> got error when trying to mount
[04:04] <mattthebaker> i recently upgraded to 8.10, and firefox has since become completely unstable. any time i load a page it hangs waiting on hosts for what i presume are serving ads. any thoughts?
[04:04] <smalleyes> bimberi: yes, but is that the recommended way?
[04:04] <ffej2ffej> I don't know which version.  Is there a way to tell from a SSH shell?
[04:04] <arkey> i shop my new computer, somebody help me to copy my images with windows 3.11
[04:04] <King> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:04] <rdw200169> smalleyes: install from .deb; yes
[04:04] <littlelambda> Addy: its good the chan is busy...more eyes on your problem
[04:04] <smalleyes> rdw200169: not from repo?
[04:04] <bimberi> smalleyes: it's _my_ recommended way, for all it's worth :)
[04:04] <rdw200169> smalleyes: installing from deb adds the software to the application installed cache
[04:04] <littlelambda> addy: anyhow, what do you mean by wacky?
[04:04] <billygalbreath> King, paste me in PM the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[04:04] <Addy> I know
[04:04] <Uplink> !clone
[04:04] <rdw200169> smalleyes: its a matter of personal preference really
[04:05] <rdw200169> smalleyes: depends on how much you trust the software provider
[04:05] <Addy> littlelambda: if I used 7.10+ the resolutions and refresh rates were strange, no matter what card or drivers I used. I assuemd it was my monitor, not the graphics cards
[04:05] <rdw200169> smalleyes: now, i take the stand that, if i like their software, i'll trust their work, so i like to use cutting edge SVN a lot for my favorites
[04:05] <Addy> assumed*
[04:06] <rdw200169> smalleyes: but, again, it's a matter of preference, and comparing what version 8.10 offers for example compared to the version on skypes website
[04:06] <Addy> littlelambda: also, if I boot up the new ubuntu CD, it loads and then the screen goes blank
[04:06] <littlelambda> addy: loads to where?
[04:06] <smalleyes> how do i add a repository (deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free) ????
[04:06] <ldiamond> Can anyone help me fix sound on Ubuntu 8.10?
[04:06] <Addy> littlelambda: somewhere near the end of the bar
[04:06] <qb|sleep> aptget - install fixsound :P
[04:07] <littlelambda> smalleyes: add it to to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <GodfatherofEire1> ldiamond, have you checked what your preferences are for sound?
[04:07] <billygalbreath> smalleyes, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:07] <ldiamond> GodfatherofEire1, yes
[04:07] <ffej2ffej> The irony, of course, is that it WAS working!  All of a sudden, I had made changes to one of my scripts and I was unable to upload it!  I haven't been able to upload anything since!
[04:07] <rdw200169> smalleyes: it's likely that ubuntu won't release a significant version change until 9.04, so if you want the latest and greatest you often have to go towards the source
[04:07] <smalleyes> littlelambda: billygalbreath: what's the userfriendfly way?
[04:07] <Uplink> !automate
[04:07] <smalleyes> rdw200169: latest and greatest of what?
[04:07] <rdw200169> smalleyes: this is most often the case immediately before a new release
[04:07] <GodfatherofEire1> So, everything has been set to non-auto drivers. I.e. ESD, ALSA, OSS, etc?
[04:07] <smalleyes> rdw200169: of what?
[04:07] <rdw200169> smalleyes: new features, bugfixes, etc...
[04:07] <billygalbreath> smalleyes, that is the user-friendly way
[04:08] <littlelambda> smalleyes: just use whatever freindly editor you prefer, then
[04:08] <smalleyes> rdw200169: i'm lost
[04:08] <Addy> littlelambda: any clue on what I should try?
[04:08] <littlelambda> addy: can you access the command line?
[04:08] <taime1> flash has stopped working after trying to upgrade it. i removed it then installed the older version, but now none of my browsers even see it. what gives?
[04:08] <rdw200169> smalleyes: let's stand back and look at the big picture then; you've got the Main branch developers, then you've got the MOTU (masters of the universe)
[04:08] <Addy> in 7.04, or in a later version?
[04:08] <rdw200169> smalleyes: then you've got everybody else
[04:08] <bimberi> smalleyes: System>Administration>Software Sources, Third Party Software tab, Add
[04:08] <smalleyes> rdw200169: i was asking about skype
[04:09] <littlelambda> addy: in the version you want to run
[04:09] <smalleyes> bimberi: that's what i just did. thanks.
[04:09] <jj_galvez> has anyone been able to install ai32-libs on 8.10amd64?
[04:09] <GodfatherofEire1> n8tuser, still reading the pastebin_
[04:09] <Addy> 8.10 is booted up right now in blank screen
[04:09] <littlelambda> addy: right.
[04:09] <bimberi> smalleyes:  well you could have said :)
[04:09] <Addy> what's the shortcut to go to the command line?
[04:09] <rdw200169> smalleyes: but you can't make up your mind over whether or not to install from repo or the website
[04:09] <case^> a lot more silent failure issues in 8.10 it seems...
[04:09] <smalleyes> bimberi: no. you're telling me just happening after my doing that.
[04:09] <rdw200169> smalleyes: right?
[04:09] <smalleyes> rdw200169: because i wanted to know the difference
[04:10] <smalleyes> or which is better, rdw200169
[04:10] <tea4all> Trying to set up dial up. The modem is 00:0d.1 Computer telephony device: Broadcom Corporation BCM4212 v.90 56k modem. I also have a Motorola modem.
[04:10] <spiritssight1> r
[04:10] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire1-> done, am googling for what driver that rt8185 uses..
[04:10] <rdw200169> rdw200169: ok then, that's what im doing, but it takes some explaining first
[04:10] <littlelambda> addy: try cntl-alt-f2
[04:10] <rdw200169> smalleyes: ***
[04:10] <Addy> alright, one sec
[04:10] <bimberi> smalleyes: fair enough :)
[04:10] <guest7070> je
[04:10] <smalleyes> but i think adding repo into software sources is better, buecause it will automatically get newerversion. but i don't think skype will come out newer version.
[04:10] <g0bl1n> hi, I installed 8.10 and my screen blanks when splash should appear. I have a siliconmotion. My xorg.conf has almost no info. The logs report missing Screens
[04:10] <GodfatherofEire1> Ok, just checkin to make sure you got it or something similar to that
[04:10] <Addy> littlelambda: flashing underscore :)
[04:11] <littlelambda> addy: no prompt?
[04:11] <Addy> mayeb the screen is off
[04:11] <Socialoutcast> has anyone installed 8.10 on an eeepc?
[04:11] <Addy> hold on
[04:11] <littlelambda> addy: what about f1
[04:11] <rdw200169> smalleyes: think of it like, 'there's a middle man corporation muddling the whole process up"
[04:11] <Addy> Litt
[04:11] <Addy> littlelambda: nope, just that line
[04:11] <g0bl1n> hi, I installed 8.10 and my screen blanks when splash should appear. I have a siliconmotion. My xorg.conf has almost no info. The logs report missing Screens
[04:11] <Setzir> I've got the broadcom BCM 4312 WiFi card on my laptop, and Ubuntu isn't recognizing it.
[04:12] <littlelambda> addy: on both? what about f3? they all like that?
[04:12] <rdw200169> smalleyes: they're careful, and they've got my best interests at heart, but they just don't have enough manpower because they're a non-profit charity
[04:12] <smalleyes> i've added " deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" but when i reload synaptic, it still doesn't find skype!!!
[04:12] <Addy> I'll try
[04:12] <littlelambda> smalleyes: did you try doing apt-get update at the terminal?
[04:12] <rdw200169> smalleyes: and a few middlemen are responsible for ensuring that literally thousands of packages are upgraded per version release
[04:12] <Addy> littlelambda: F1 brought up Loadin, please wat....
[04:12] <Addy> loading*
[04:13] <rdw200169> smalleyes: now, what you don't know is that all the sofware in the repos for 8.10, the stuff in universe and multiverse like skype, ended up there probably 2 or 3 months ago
[04:13] <littlelambda> Addy: any other text, or just that?
[04:13] <mattthebaker> is it normal for firefox3 to completely hang while loading pages?
[04:13] <smalleyes> littlelambda:  "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)" (I have synaptic closed!! How come denied?)
[04:13] <rdw200169> smalleyes: so even though 8.10 is new, the software is a little behind
[04:13] <alpine_style> i upgraded to 8.10 and DNS is broken, nothing resolves ... any ideas?
[04:13] <hansin> I can not remember, but if I do an install via the "alternate CD" (I like to do a minimal install and build it up from there), can I choose to use a swap file instead of a swap partition?  If so, does anyone know if this swap file gets the full space allocated, and if so is it put near the far end of the partion blocks (if that is the correct way of saying that)?  Thanks.
[04:13] <ldiamond> I'm having problems with audio. I'm on a notebook, when I plug my headphones, the sound stops (nothing is outputted in the headphones or the speakers). How can I fix that?
[04:14] <Spaz926> Hey guys, I was wondering. What software do I need to be able to change settings in Ubuntu worldwide, and put those settings into a install and make it where those settings will be used on a new install of Ubuntu?
[04:14] <Addy> littlelambda: just the previous DMI BIOS year ==0, assuming ACPI-capable machine
[04:14] <Kohlrak> can't create a new key in the keyring manager with a password. What's with that?
[04:14] <littlelambda> smalleyes: sorry, you need to put sudo in front of that
[04:14] <rdw200169> smalleyes: further, the motu guys i mentioned, are off working on the next version of ubuntu, and those upgrades
[04:14] <smalleyes> rdw200169: ok.
[04:14] <littlelambda> addy: thats all it says on f1?
[04:15] <Addy> yes
[04:15] <littlelambda> littlelambda: then i think your install is borked.
[04:15] <littlelambda> addy*:
[04:15] <Addy> heh
[04:15] <hansin> mattthebaker: Yes, sometimes FF3 will hang like that.  FF runs as a monolithic process (or something like that), meaning all tabs run under same process.  So if you open a tab that has lots of javascript or flash that hangs that tab, it hangs the whole browser.  At least that is my understanding of what is happeneing.
[04:15] <niccokick> so the forums down?
[04:15] <rdw200169> smalleyes: so you're left with a choice, take what's very likely going to work alright, from the ubuntu repos, or take what may or may not work better, but has a higher (much higher) chance of coming out with more versions, from the skype site
[04:15] <Blud> Greetings all I from Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:15] <Addy> littlelambda: I just downloaded it, and the beta I tried a week ago did the exact same
[04:16] <rdw200169> smalleyes: and, if you don't like it get rid of it, switch your software sources, and go back to the ubuntu repos
[04:16] <hansin> Blud: Greetings to you.
[04:16] <aRk4> How 2 instal ubuntu mid on my o2 xda ll
[04:16] <smalleyes> apt-get gives me "2 suggested packages". Question 1) should i install them (the 2 are nas and libqt4-dev for skype) Question2) Why am I not given the option to install the 2 suggestions?
[04:16] <rdw200169> smalleyes: it's pretty easy to try one, decide you dont' like it, and go back
[04:16] <g0bl1n> is it normal for xorg.conf to have simple generic information ? My Debian one is very complete
[04:16] <smalleyes> rdw200169: ok.
[04:16] <littlelambda> addy: whats your hardware?
[04:16] <mattthebaker> hansin: ahh, it hangs horribly with a single page open, on all but the most simple of websites, it seems that anytime it says 'reading from ...' in the statusbar it hangs
[04:16] <Blud> cgc
[04:16] <rdw200169> smalleyes: the whole debian repo concept is really forgiving on that
[04:16] <littlelambda> addy: x86?
[04:16] <Blud> ñïñ
[04:16] <Addy> littlelambda: yeah, x86 pentium 3
[04:16] <smalleyes> forgiving on my last question (re: suggested packages)?
[04:17] <smalleyes> rdw200169: see above
[04:17] <rdw200169> smalleyes: just don't go doing a dist upgrade and think you can turn back the clock on that ;)
[04:17] <ldiamond> I'm having problems with audio. I'm on a notebook, when I plug my headphones, the sound stops (nothing is outputted in the headphones or the speakers). How can I fix that?
[04:17] <billygalbreath> g0bl1n, i also found that very weird, so i filled it in to my likings since it was too generic for me to feel comfortable enough to sleep at night
[04:17] <Spaz926> Who has installed 10.0 through BootCamp?
[04:17] <rdw200169> suggested packages?
[04:17]  * ptx0-aWay is Away, Reason: ( sleep ) | Since: ( Wednesday, October 29, 2008. 01:36:44 ) Xlack v2.1
[04:17] <littlelambda> addy: hmm
[04:17] <smalleyes> rdw200169: never mind.
[04:17] <smalleyes> rdw200169: i understand
[04:17] <Socialoutcast> is 8.10 worth upgrading to?
[04:17] <smalleyes> Spaz926: ubuntu 10.0?
[04:17] <hansin> mattthebaker: hmm.  I guess I haven't seen it affected too bad like that.  I will so I have better luck with FF on "the other OS", but it seems to be improving on Linux.
[04:17] <aRk4> How 2 instal ubuntu mid on my o2 xda ll
[04:17] <hansin> I will say...
[04:17] <littlelambda> addy: reboot the sucker. watch for any weird messages
[04:18] <Addy> alright
[04:18] <g0bl1n> billygalbreath, but was it working before?
[04:18] <littlelambda> addy: theres not much you can do if you can get to login on a tty
[04:18] <littlelambda> cant*
[04:18] <Kohlrak> can't confirm password in keyring manager when creating a new key.
[04:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> so... nobody has a clue?
[04:18] <billygalbreath> g0bl1n, yup - worked fine. i just didnt feel right being so generic.
[04:18] <mattthebaker> hansin: hmm.. its never been a problem before, i believe i had 3.0 on 8.04, and i don't see the same effect on my laptop. i'm going to blame it on flash and mess around with it some more
[04:18] <smalleyes> as the ubuntu versions get higher and higher, does the need for a more powerful computer go higher, too?
[04:18] <Addy> littlelambda: I'm going to try safe graphics mode
[04:18] <g0bl1n> smalleyes, no
[04:19] <mtholdenss> is it possible to use itunes database on windows partition?
[04:19] <smalleyes> g0bl1n: not at all?
[04:19] <hansin> also, I shall call is "that other OS".  "The other" makes it sound like there are only two :O
[04:19] <jbg7474> Does anyone know how to sync a Palm device in 8.10 with evolution?  This worked perfectly in 8.04, nothing happens in 8.10
[04:19] <Yoshi> why oh why is it that these things can never be freaking simple
[04:19] <Spaz926> sorry 8.10
[04:19] <Yoshi> trying to make a live pen got everything setup and i dont have a disctree on the ubuntu live cd
[04:19] <Spaz926> smalleyes: 8.10
[04:19] <hansin> mattthebaker: Good luck, tinkering can't hurt (well, not too much).
[04:20] <Yoshi> not only that but the partitions i made cant have the shit copied to them
[04:20] <g0bl1n> smalleyes, of course if you want all the super-uber fancy effects, yes, but normal functions dont require that
[04:20] <smalleyes> I've done a brand new fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 and skype says "problem with audio playback" please help!!! 8-(
[04:20] <rdw200169> Yoshi: what are you trying to do?
[04:20] <billygalbreath> Yoshi, everything is simple. it's just getting past the obvious bfore we realize how simple our problems are to solve ;)
[04:20] <rdw200169> smalleyes: try padsp
[04:20] <smalleyes> rdw200169: try padsp for skype audio problem?
[04:20] <threeseas> there seems to be issues with networking on 8.10 and NetworkManager has issues
[04:20] <Yoshi> rdw200169: create a live pen. so i can boot intrepid off my pen drive
[04:21] <rdw200169> smalleyes: yes, with pulseaudio, works fantastic, i mean FANTASTIC for me
[04:21] <smalleyes> rdw200169: did that fix your skype problem too?
[04:21] <LF|Irssi_> how do i turn off screen saver? i tried screensaver and powermanagement settings nothing helps
[04:21] <mtholdenss> anyone help my itunes problem?
[04:21] <Yoshi> billygalbreath: no there is no obvious here i follow the instructions and command of this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent. and i cant make it work
[04:21] <Petri-x> I can't start skype at all after I upgraded to xubuntu 8.10. is there anybody here with the same problem or someone who knows what to do to make it work?
[04:21] <Tommo-dmc> I'm formatting /dev/sdb with ext3 to make it part of a RAID.. do I make it primary or extended? Either way I get sdb1 for the container and sdb5 for the actual data storage and I can't set flags to raid before I format it in that way.
[04:21] <littlelambda> mtholdenss: maybe another channel can
[04:21] <rdw200169> smalleyes: i don't use skype, but generally, padsp will pipe any audio to /dev/dsp
[04:21] <littlelambda> mtholdenss: this is for problems with ubuntu, and its pretty darn busy
[04:22] <rdw200169> smalleyes: so, if /dev/dsp works, padsp will work
[04:22] <mtholdenss> littlelambda, what channel on freenode would you suggest, is there a sub-channel specifically for audio?
[04:22] <rdw200169> Yoshi: take a shot at unetbootin
[04:22] <smalleyes> rdw200169: how can I figure out if /dev/dsp works?
[04:22] <rdw200169> Yoshi: it works pretty sweet
[04:22] <littlelambda> mtholdenss: can't your client retrive a channel list?
[04:22] <Yoshi> rdw200169: what is usebootin
[04:22] <littlelambda> addy: any joy?
[04:23] <hansin> rdw200169: Does this mean the Linux version of Skype uses OSS for sound?  Do you know?  Just curious if that is the case.  Thanks.
[04:23] <Addy> littlelambda: same results. Blank screen, and ctrl-alt-F1 brings up the exact same text
[04:23] <rdw200169> Yoshi: http://unetbootin.wiki.sourceforge.net/guide
[04:23] <mtholdenss> im using xchat, whats the command to retrieve channels?
[04:23] <MindVirus> Is it safe to remove /var/cache/apt/archives?
[04:23] <rdw200169> hansin: like i said, i don't know b/c i don't use it, but it's a quick test
[04:23] <LF|Irssi_> how do i turn off screen saver? i tried screensaver and powermanagement settings nothing helps
[04:23] <Yoshi> rdw200169: yay more guides *insert sarcas,m*
[04:23] <littlelambda> And the text is some messages about acpi, and then Loading, Please wait......
[04:23] <rdw200169> Yoshi: that's linux ;)
[04:23] <Addy> yeah
[04:23] <MindVirus> Anyone know?
[04:24] <hansin> rdw200169: Okay thanks.  Actually padsp looks like it could be useful for me to run "tvtime".
[04:24] <bimberi> MindVirus: the .deb files in it, yes
[04:24] <rdw200169> Yoshi: waay too much information ... (darn)
[04:24] <MindVirus> bimberi, are you sure?
[04:24] <ldiamond> I'm having problems with audio. I'm on a notebook, when I plug my headphones, the sound stops (nothing is outputted in the headphones or the speakers). How can I fix that?
[04:24] <littlelambda> addy: then i guess if you are getting the same with all ubuntu > 7.4, its a hardware issue
[04:24] <blaz3> howdy all, I just upgraded and my monitor is not recognized correctly. How do i pull up the screen selector (gksu displayconfig-gtk seems to ask for password, and then nothing)
[04:24] <Hilton> ldiamond: Turn off the mute switch on the headphones.
[04:24] <Hilton> ;)
[04:24] <Yoshi> rdw200169: how about someone stand up an teach one on one. instead of a dry guide i will never remember because it has ot bloody context
[04:24] <bimberi> MindVirus: the command 'sudo apt-get clean' will do it
[04:24] <smalleyes> rdw200169: how can I figure out if /dev/dsp works?
[04:24] <ldiamond> Hilton, theres no mute switch.
[04:24] <MindVirus> Ahh, I see.
[04:25] <smalleyes> rdw200169: another question: if padsp doesn't work for me, may it make my computer worse possibly? if it does, can we undo the installation of padsp?
[04:25] <Addy> littlelambda: 7.10 does boot up, just with the wacky resolution
[04:25] <DaveCave> im off for the night pce out everyone
[04:25] <rdw200169> ldiamond: try double clicking on the speaker icon in your taskbar, going to preferences, and checking all the boxes
[04:25] <Addy> littlelambda: I'll try booting 7.10
[04:25] <gaintsura> hey all, I need a some file recovery software, anybody suggest one?
[04:25] <littlelambda> Addy, but version 8.0 dont work at all...
[04:25] <rdw200169> ldiamond: then checking the headphone volume level
[04:25] <Addy> littlelambda: I'm pretty sure 8.04 did
[04:25] <LF|Irssi_> has anyone else had probs with vmware or virtualbox since upgrading to 8.10?
[04:25] <Addy> with the wacky screen
[04:26] <Flannel> !ext3 | gaintsura
[04:26] <Flannel> er,
[04:26] <Yoshi> rdw200169: like for instance how do i run this apparent executablke which has no run option when i right click it
[04:26] <Flannel> !undelete | gaintsura
[04:26] <rdw200169> smalleyes: please, don't worry so much about software hurting your computer!
[04:26] <rdw200169> smalleyes: this isn't windows!
[04:26] <Tommo-dmc> I'm formatting /dev/sdb with ext3 to make it part of a RAID.. do I make it primary or extended? Either way I get sdb1 for the container and sdb5 for the actual data storage and I can't set flags to raid before I format it in that way. Does it matter which one it is?
[04:26] <gaintsura> thanks Flannel
[04:26] <spiritssight1> Is there a way to tell smb that you want from a folder and all its sub folders to be readable / writerable when it is connected shared
[04:26] <rdw200169> Yoshi: reluctantly, that likely requires the command line
[04:27] <smalleyes> rdw200169: pls answer: how can I confirm whether /dev/dsp will work??
[04:27] <node357> hello, 2 things. I can't install the nvidia driver because the dialog says I have "held back broken packages" or something like that, and also I can't get my Intel HDA audio line-in working.
[04:27] <rdw200169> rdw200169: try switching an application that supports OSS to OSS
[04:27] <ldiamond> rdw200169, theres no headphone volume, I managed to make something output to my headphones (through surround), however thats only two channels of the surround that happens to be passing through this jack.
[04:27] <scandal> ldiamond: you might right click on the volume applet and select 'open volume control' make sure the headphone volumne is not muted. on my laptop the builtin speakers and headphone jack have separate controls
[04:27] <Yoshi> rdw200169: ok i can dig that. but how do i run this from the command line? i dont do a whole l,ot of running executables from command lines. sometimes i run commands but not often exzecutabes
[04:27] <billygalbreath> node357, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <hansin> smalleyes: try 'echo "asdfsadfsadfasdfsadfasdfasdfasdfsadfasdfasdfasd" > /dev/dsp' (the stuff between the quotes is just random letter).  You should hear a click in your speakers, but try and put lots of stuff between the quotes.
[04:28] <node357> billygalbreath: thanks
[04:28] <littlelambda> addy: right, you want to write off your 8.10 issue for a moment, since it seems way above my head and work on fixing that wacky screen?
[04:28] <rdw200169> ldiamond: i know this is gonna be hard, but pulseaudio supports mixing surround to stereo (i think)
[04:28] <Yoshi> rdw200169: i dont really recall ever running one from a command line in the last 8 to 10 months possibly longer
[04:28] <threeseas> ldiamond: if software settings don't fix the headphone problem then maybe its the headphone jack or the headphones. the headphone jack on the laptop when headphone plugged in, physically disconnects the speakers.
[04:28] <node357> billygalbreath: that didn't do anything
[04:28] <Addy> littlelambda: I think it's the same issue with both versino though
[04:28] <mattthebaker> hansin: hmm... i found a launchpad bug describing it, it has yet to be resolved, but once again leads me to believe it is flash related
[04:28] <Addy> versions*
[04:28] <rdw200169> Yoshi: what kind of file is it?
[04:28] <billygalbreath> node357, it didnt fix the broken packages?
[04:28] <LF|Irssi_> has anyone else had probs with vmware or virtualbox since upgrading to 8.10?
[04:28] <Addy> littlelambda: I
[04:28] <node357> billybigrigger: no
[04:28] <node357> Calculating upgrade... Done
[04:28] <node357> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:28] <Addy> littlelambda: I'm trying to get 8.10 for the wireless support
[04:29] <Yoshi> rdw200169: shouldnt you know? havent you used this? it gave me a file called unetbootin-linux-293
[04:29] <hansin> mattthebaker: okay; good sleuth work ;)
[04:29] <ldiamond> threeseas, rdw200169  scandal : I think its because the fact that I plug a audio jack isnt detected and it doesnt output to this jack instead.
[04:29] <Yoshi> rdw200169: it as what i remember to be the icon of a bin executable for linux
[04:29] <littlelambda> Addy: well, what you told me before makes it sound like its a hardware problem somewhere right down the booting process
[04:29] <node357> stupid tab :(
[04:29] <rdw200169> there's a .deb file on their website
[04:29] <littlelambda> Addy: seems like you get nowhere near starting up an x session
[04:29] <rdw200169> Yoshi, there's a .deb file on their site
[04:29] <Addy> littlelambda
[04:29] <Addy> really?
[04:29] <smalleyes> hansin: rdw200169: yes i hear a click. so i guess /dev/dsp works!
[04:29] <smalleyes> rdw200169: so i guess i should try padsp
[04:30] <Yoshi> rdw200169: thats not what thier download file gave me
[04:30] <Yoshi> rdw200169: err link
[04:30] <node357> in alsamixer all I have is "master"
[04:30] <spiritssight1> rdw200169:  How can I tell smb to share all subfolders from the root
[04:30] <node357> I NEED line-in
[04:30] <Kohlrak> anyone ever have a problem with the keyring manager not letting you make keys?
[04:30] <littlelambda> addy: yes. you should get your uname and a warranty warning of f1, before ubuntu trys to start x
[04:31] <node357> hello, 2 things. I can't install the nvidia driver because the dialog says I have "held back broken packages" or something like that, and also I can't get my Intel HDA audio line-in working.
[04:31] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: i'll be honest with you, i hate samba, and avoid it at all costs, so i can't tell you cause i don't know
[04:31] <littlelambda> addy: sounds like your boot process is borked doing what ever it does at "loading, please wait..."
[04:31] <Addy> yeah
[04:31] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: i never use windows, so it's pretty easy for me to avoid it
[04:32] <rdw200169> Yoshi: go here: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and 'Download 32-bit (i386) Ubuntu/Debian .deb Package'
[04:32] <bitwiseshiftleft> hey all
[04:32] <billygalbreath> node357, paste me the exact error about the broken packages
[04:32] <threeseas> ldiamond: the female audio jack not only makes a stereo connection to the headphones but also disconnects the the signal to the speakers. its a purely physical issue. if your jack is bad, or the headphones have a problem....
[04:32] <spiritssight1> I not using windows either, I am using two ubuntu system, so what is my next and easy way to access the ubuntu system so I can move stuff, what if any thing do I need to install on the systems
[04:33] <Addy> littlelambda: 7.10 is booting up with it's 1124x768 @ 55Hz XD
[04:33] <bitwiseshiftleft> question: i have a bunch of speakers in the den, and i want to set up a web client to stream music from my computer to those speakers
[04:33] <bitwiseshiftleft> any recommendations?
[04:33] <node357> okay billygalbreath
[04:33] <LF|Irssi_> has anyone else had probs with vmware or virtualbox since upgrading to 8.10?
[04:33] <smalleyes> i'm using firefox. i went to a page with flash.which plugin should i download. A) adobe flash. (b) swfdec player . (C) gnash swf?
[04:33] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: like i said before, if you have access to both systems' passwords, openssh is the way to go
[04:33] <littlelambda> addy: Im at a loss as to what to recommend, other than an reinstall. by chance you may have been unlucky twice, but i doubt it.
[04:33] <bitwiseshiftleft> i have 8.10 installed on a random jank box in the den
[04:33] <toastedmilk> Need help installing Hardy Heron from Feisty with burned iso
[04:33] <littlelambda> addy: can you adjust the resolution?
[04:33] <rdw200169> spiritssight1: it's literally as easy as 'apt-get install openssh-server'
[04:33] <Yoshi> rdw200169: no i download the amd64 version cause thats what i got. i aint a completly daft newbie
[04:34] <threeseas> ldiamond: you can take just a male plug and plug it into your audio out on teh laptop and it will shut off the speakers
[04:34] <hansin> smalleyes: what the above command does is directs (via >) random stuff to your /dev/dsp device.  I think what you just did should be enough???  But I just looked on the Skype site, and it appears it uses OSS for sound (old Linux sound system) instead of ALSA (newer Linux sound system).  They talk about setting up ALSA to emulate OSS, but I have had issues with that (well, I tried it once).  psdsp seems to do the same thing, but uses Puls
[04:34] <Addy> littlelambda: probably won't do anything, I tried installing like 6 times
[04:34] <gaintsura> ok, I'm done worrying about my filesystem, and I've been procrastinating it for some time.... what is a good backup / restore system that I can use like a livecd
[04:34] <Addy> littlelambda: yes I can
[04:34] <spiritssight1> rdw200169: can you pm me I can not follow there is to much traffic for my eyes to follow what you are saying
[04:34] <rdw200169> Yoshi: so you got a .deb file?
[04:34] <littlelambda> addy: is the change sticking?
[04:34] <smalleyes> hansin: yes, i heard some sounds with the command. so how did you get skype working on 8.10? rdw200169 suggests padsp.
[04:34] <Yoshi> rdw200169: and installed i am just reformatting my pendrive because i dont have a 1 gig space of the right kind as the bootin page says i will need
[04:35] <jz> whats the best way to copy my ubuntu partition over to another slightly bigger partition? I have a feeling its tar but am wondering if it can be done with cp or dd.
[04:35] <Addy> littlelambda: the only other resolutions are 1200x800, 800x600 and 600x480
[04:35] <gaintsura> jz: someone told me about mcp I think it was
[04:35] <threeseas> I think I have a work around for the networkmanager problem -- kill the process and then in a shell start it back up "NetworkManager"
[04:35] <littlelambda> addy: what are you wanting to use?
[04:35] <tea4all> Trying to connect with dial up. Need a modem driver. the output of lspci is:
[04:35] <Addy> littlelambda: 1024x768, everything else is too small
[04:36] <jerkface> do they still make dialup connections?
[04:36] <gaintsura> jz: yes, its mcp and mmv in package 'mmv'
[04:36] <littlelambda> addy: right. sounds like you need to edit your xorg.conf
[04:36] <tea4all> Trying to set up dial up. Need a modem driver. The output of lspci is:
[04:36] <rdw200169> smalleyes: audio seems to be a recurring problem with skype: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[04:36] <Justnulling2> checkinstall of guvcview fails with "/bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/share/doc': No such file or directory" any ideas?
[04:36] <littlelambda> addy: know how?
[04:36] <Addy> littlelambda: what's the file path? I'll open it up
[04:37] <littlelambda> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:37] <Yoshi> rdw200169: aaaaand i dont see vfat or fat32 in the options only fat 12 16 and hidden windows partition types
[04:37] <jz> ok thanks gaintsura I'll check it out
[04:37] <Hail_Spacecake> is anyone knowledgable about lvm?
[04:37] <smalleyes> rdw200169: that's too bad. skype worked fine for me on 8.04. but not on a clean install of ubuntu 8.10. what shall i do? install padsp??? is that the solution?
[04:37] <tea4all> Trying to set up dial up. Need a modem driver. The output of lspci is: 00:0d.1 Computer telephony device: Broadcom Corporation BCM4212 v.90 56k modem
[04:38] <gaintsura> !backup
[04:38] <Addy> littlelambda: what should I edit?
[04:38] <hansin> smalleyes: I might be wrong on Skype using OSS.  Looks like that came from a 5 year old post on the Skype site.  They may have switched to ALSA since then.  There is a posting thread on the Skype site that might be of help, though if it worked for you in 8.04 but not now in 8.10, then who knows...
[04:38] <prince_jammys> !dialup | tea4all
[04:38] <hansin> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=f96ec84e69daf1579ffab0e84da4e472&showtopic=4489&st=160
[04:38] <billygalbreath> littlelambda, Flannel, Brucee: since there is no /etc/inittab in Ubuntu - how would I respawn tty's on boot? see step # 3 -> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/13/automatically-log-into-xfce-without-a-login-manager/
[04:39] <littlelambda> addy: there should be a line with your screen resolutions already on
[04:39] <rdw200169> smalleyes: 8.04 preferred the ESD sound mixer, bit if i'm not mistaken, ubuntu prefers pulseaudio now
[04:39] <Addy> littlelambda: the screen - modes section has 1024x768 in it
[04:39] <rdw200169> smalleyes: and for good reason i believe
[04:39] <sat_e_llite> hello
[04:39] <littlelambda> addy: oh dear....
[04:39] <sat_e_llite> i have a problem after upgrading to 8.10
[04:39] <smalleyes> rdw200169: ok. how can i force skype to work. 8-(
[04:40] <threeseas> So with NetworkManager started at boot, it eats cpu and memory and seems to make active both wired and wireless even if there is no setting for wireless. But kill the process and start it back up and memory and cpu usage for NetworkManager is like 0% as right now I'm connected with 0%
[04:41] <isgoungoo> hello
[04:41] <sat_e_llite> my problem is that the cursor seems to have a mind of it's own, it moves by it selfs and I don't even touch my mouse. I even unplugged it but it moves by it self
[04:41] <Guest2523> Would anyone have time to possibly help a n00b with a wireless issue?
[04:41] <rdw200169> smalleyes: i was right, section four of that link i gave you suggests that skype uses OSS
[04:41] <threeseas> Guest2523: using 8.10?
[04:41] <rdw200169> smalleyes: have you tried running skype with 'padsp skype'?
[04:41] <cyphase> does anyone know of a program that will index/search ID3 comments?
[04:41] <pentaside> threeseas: Yes
[04:42] <sat_e_llite> can anyone help me?
[04:42] <smalleyes> rdw200169: not yet.
[04:42] <smalleyes> i'll install padsp now. thakns. please standby