[19:52] <ShadesEdge> Confused
[19:52] <wolf252> ActionParsnip yes
[19:52] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Yes. I have it.
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Shadesedge: sure, just boot to gnome classic
[19:52] <Travis-42> fullstop, hmm, you're right, thank you!
[19:53] <Arachon> ActionParsnip: Oh, so it uses Plymouth for the login prompt?
[19:53] <ShadesEdge> I installed Ubuntu with the minimal CD
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Wolf252: cool, run ccsm and enable the unity addon
[19:54] <ShadesEdge> I used to have lubuntu installed with but I really want the classic GNOME
[19:54] <bullgard4> !prefix | ShadesEdge
[19:54] <ShadesEdge> ubottu: Thanks
[19:54] <cppguy> hi, if i do an upgrade to 11.04 am I amble still use the previouse one?
[19:54] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: I know
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Arachon: no idea. I don't pay any attention to it as its only a login screen
[19:54] <bullgard4> cppguy: Not really.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> cppguy: if you want the old version you will need to reinstall
[19:55] <ShadesEdge> ?*
[19:55] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: The real question is: If I install GNOME with apt-get, will I be able to get the classic GNOME and the old Ubuntu look%
[19:55] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Yes.
[19:56] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: How?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> !classic
[19:56] <RevSpecies116> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop ?
[19:56] <Arachon> Anyone else knows what Ubuntu uses to display the login screen?
[19:57] <RevSpecies116> ActionParsnip: He is on Minimal installation
[19:57] <ShadesEdge> Arachon: GDM?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> RevSpecies116: aptitude isn't default installed in ubuntu now
[19:57] <Arachon> ShadesEdge: But GDM is themeable, isn't it?
[19:57] <bullgard4> Just use apt-get install as you have been used to. After Ubuntu 11.04 has been installed, just before keying in your password, you will find a menu in the lower row of your desktop screen. There please select "ubuntu Classic".
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Arachon: not much, other DMs are
[19:58] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: It is already installed :S
[19:58] <mister_m> would it be possible to run Ubuntu with plan9 userspace?
[19:58] <fearful> Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me out with Libre Office, I have downloaded and installed the ttf mscorefonts and they do not appear in any of the fonts of the LibreOffice writer.
[19:58] <RevSpecies116> swap aptitude for apt-get, then ;)
[19:58] <cppguy> how to change color depth (I am not using any proprietary drivers)?
[19:59] <ShadesEdge> cppguy: Personally, open-source driver aren't useful except if you don't use any 3D apps or that you modify it.
[19:59] <amit> which is the best linux distro
[19:59] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Then you only need to restart your gdm and you will find this menu.
[19:59] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: Thanks
[20:00] <itaylor57> amit: solarisx86
[20:00] <ShadesEdge> amit: Ubuntu with the minimal CD
[20:00] <bullgard4> amit: Ubuntu ftw
[20:00] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: Minimal CD or normal preferred?
[20:01] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: I personally prefer the normal CD.
[20:01] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: I forgot to mention I installed it as a command-line
[20:01] <Jessy> hi
[20:01] <Jessy> Im new using linux
[20:01] <amit> what about fedora
[20:01] <mister_m> would it be possible to run Ubuntu with plan9 userspace?
[20:01] <Jessy> I like this System Operative
[20:01] <Jessy> not
[20:01] <Jessy> fedora
[20:02] <zgraviton_> I have a quick question concerning reinstalling/updating Ubuntu, if somebody could help?
[20:02] <Jessy> have a interface beautifull
[20:02] <Jessy> xubuntu
[20:02] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: I do not understand very well what you bean by: "I installed it as a command-line."
[20:02] <ShadesEdge> Jessy: lol, use the normal CD
[20:02] <Jessy> because my machine
[20:02] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: I do not understand very well what you mean by: "I installed it as a command-line."
[20:02] <Jessy> is low recurses
[20:02] <arand> zgraviton_: Just ask, whomever knows will hopefully answer
[20:02] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: I installed only the command-line Ubuntu, not coming with GNOME
[20:02] <Jessy> Yeah its this
[20:02] <Jessy> i download yesterday
[20:03] <Jessy> an installed today
[20:03] <Jessy> i like
[20:03] <Jessy> *-*
[20:03] <fearful> Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me out with Libre Office, I have downloaded and installed the ttf mscorefonts and they do not appear in any of the fonts of the LibreOffice writer.
[20:03] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Then please install GNOME now.
[20:03] <guillermo> hola
[20:03] <Jessy> gnome dont like sorry
[20:03] <Jessy> i decided used this xubuntu
[20:03] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: Ok, apt-get install gnome?
[20:03] <zgraviton_> I've got a second internal hard drive that I use strictly for media (music, videos, etc.); I was wondering if I reinstall/update Ubuntu, will the new installation still recognize the drive with all the data on it?
[20:03] <Jessy> *-*
[20:03] <Jessy> auwwwwwn i love linux
[20:04] <ShadesEdge> zgraviton_: I think yes
[20:04] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Yes.
[20:04] <Jessy> zgravitation where do you chat???
[20:04] <ShadesEdge> Ok
[20:04] <Jessy> Oo?
[20:05] <Jessy> hi
[20:05] <ShadesEdge> Jessy: You have a program for that I think.
[20:05] <Pici> !ot
[20:05] <amit> how to make directory to desktop
[20:05] <RevSpecies116> ShadesEdge: Wouldn't it be better for bullgard4 to 'sudo apt-get --install ubuntu-desktop'
[20:05] <kfizz> Whenever I open "Sound Preferences" from the sound menu, a terminal opens up and a voice says "Welcome to Orca. Current desktop environment is classic gnome." and every time I close the terminal it just re-opens and says the same thing. Any ideas?
[20:05] <Jessy> whats is a program???
[20:05] <Jessy> linux is best
[20:05] <zgraviton_> I figure reinstalling shouldn't have any affect on the drive -- it'd just recognize it as if it were an external hard drive that's already plugged in, right?
[20:06] <Jessy> windows is a prostitute thats system operating
[20:06] <Jessy> hahahahahahaha lol
[20:06] <bullgard4> RevSpecies116: This may be true. I do not know exactly in what state his computer is at present.
[20:06] <Pici> Jessy: Please try to stay on topic here, you may want to take a look at our channel guidelines linked in the topic as well.
[20:07] <RevSpecies116> Sorry - looks like I swapped the names ;)
[20:07] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: I principally use the Minimal to not have a bunch of apps preinstalled
[20:07] <tripelb> THird time is the charm.  reading .wav in rhythmbox? -- rhythmbox cant find "windows media audio decoder". I just plugged in sansa fuze with rockbox. How would I get this "decoder". I thought it came with all the medibuntu stuff.
[20:07] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: Using this command would just break why I use this...
[20:08] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Right. Just do 'sudo apt-get --install ubuntu-desktop'. This may draw other dependencies also.
[20:08] <zgraviton_> Can anyone verify: I figure reinstalling shouldn't have any affect on my media drive -- it'd just recognize it as if it were an external hard drive that's already plugged in, right?
[20:08] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: It will download a bunch of apps I don't need
[20:09] <Henriquez> Is there an email application available that supports exchange 2007 for ubuntu ? OWA is enabled  (need it for work email)
[20:09] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: It is very difficult to confine GNOME to the bare minimum. Ubuntu is not congigured to reach this goal easily.
[20:09] <xtrose_man> hello there guys
[20:09] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: Then I can see apps by apps of ubuntu-desktop
[20:09] <bullgard4> s/congigured/configured/
[20:10] <xtrose_man> can anybody help me on how to use webhttrack?
[20:10] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: That's the way ubuntu is configured.
[20:10] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: To have alot of things preinstalled?
[20:11] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Yes. Exactly.
[20:11] <ShadesEdge> bullgard4: Behind this simple OS hide complex things
[20:11] <ShadesEdge> oO
[20:11] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Yes.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: if you want a minimal gnome install, you can
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: or any DE really
[20:12] <nimbiotics> RevSpecies116: I've been doin a/v and automation for more than 8 years and this is the craziest OS i've seen on a TV, Its clumsy and hard to grab, but I think Ive check all possibilities on both sides, the TV and on monitor preferences :/
[20:13] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: One other reason why I did choose the Minimal instead of the normal.
[20:14] <RevSpecies116> nimbiotics: No worries - just as long as you have eliminated all the simple things first ;)
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: me too. Way too much fluff in a default install for my taste
[20:14] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: So now, I just installed GNOME. Let's see how this interface looks...
[20:15] <gorioBR> hi all
[20:15] <ShadesEdge> Minimal CD for the win.
[20:15] <gorioBR> could anyone help me with this permission
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: sudo apt-get -y install gnome-core xorg gdm
[20:15] <trism> kasun: yeah, definitely drop the conditional, because it is broken anyway, if /boot and / are the same partition it expands to (hdx,y/boot)/kernel, which confuses grub (in my test anyway)
[20:15] <gorioBR> tat: impossível obter estado de `/home/gorio/.gvfs/': Permissão negada
[20:16] <trism> kasun: otherwise, seems like it works though
[20:16] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: Already have xorg installed, I installed gnome instead of gnome-core
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: personnally i just install lxdm and lxde ;)
[20:16] <ShadesEdge> ;)
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-core
[20:17] <amit> can i play windows games on ubuntu
[20:17] <tamarche> Depends
[20:17] <ShadesEdge> amit: Wine on the way
[20:17] <tamarche> Wine works to an extent
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: it may install it as a dep
[20:17] <ShadesEdge> http://www.winehq.org/
[20:17] <amit> actualy i mean to say pirated games
[20:17] <ironhalik> anyone maybe knows, how is called the icon used as for chat in messenger indicator?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Amit
[20:17] <ShadesEdge> amit: Only some games will correctly work.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> !piracy | amit
[20:18] <tamarche> Well, there
[20:18] <tamarche> 's a good answer =]
[20:18] <ShadesEdge> !guidelines
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Thanks :)
[20:18] <ShadesEdge> !o4
[20:18] <ShadesEdge> !o4o
[20:18] <kasun> trism: i see. I haven't included the condition thing. But got a kernel panic error when booting!
[20:19] <kasun> trism: Does the --set=root thing is only for grub2 version 1.99?
[20:19] <ShadesEdge> zzz... Gnome is long to install
[20:20] <robbmunson> ShadesEdge, Gnome is a big project. :)
[20:20] <ShadesEdge> robbmunson: You're right :).
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: try  compiling lxde + xorg in gentoo on an old system. Takes days
[20:21] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: That's why I don't use Gentoo
[20:22] <kasun> Is there a way to know the current grub version without restarting?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: its why i have an image of the root partition, makes life easier
[20:22] <Jordan_U> kasun: grub-install --version
[20:23] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: You're clever :)
[20:23] <trism> kasun: I don't think it is specific to the 1.99 version, it seems to be present in the 1.98 version too
[20:23] <james333james> Anynody knows ho to us dsniff ?
[20:23] <kasun> Jordan_U: thanks...
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> kasun: or: apt- cache policy grub
[20:23] <trism> kasun: the kernel panic may not be a grub 2 issue, but an issue with the kernel you built for gentoo
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: just been at this game too long ;)
[20:24] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: That will usually tell you that you don't have "grub" installed as the "grub" package is for grub-legacy.
[20:24] <trism> kasun: the --set option just isn't usually specified because it defaults to root
[20:24] <kasun> trism: well, no. There was some error of not finding a partition.... I don't know exactly what happened there...
[20:24] <steiner> is it possible to connect windows 7 to a printer on ubuntu?
[20:24] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: Continue this discuss with me at the #ubuntu-off
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> !info grub
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Hmm
[20:25] <HHX> Can Ubuntu repair a FAt32 file structure?
[20:25] <ShadesEdge> !offtopic
[20:25] <trism> kasun: yes, but that may be a kernel issue. you aren't using an initrd, so if the modules required to mount your root file system aren't compiled into the kernel, you won't be able to mount it
[20:25] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: Go to the offtopic channl
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: I'm only here while i get home
[20:26] <ShadesEdge> !offtopic | ActionParsnip
[20:26] <ShadesEdge> Just make that command: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:26] <HHX> Anyone know if Ubuntu can repair a FAt32 file structure?
[20:26] <kish> i want to replace this useless windows key with a command
[20:26] <pitthappens> i have an error starting the winbind daemon
[20:26] <ShadesEdge> HHX: I don't think so
[20:26] <pitthappens> can anyone help me please?
[20:26] <amit> ubottu how to change directory into desktop
[20:26] <kish> i want a terminal window to open up whenever i click this ugly windows key
[20:27] <tamarche> pwned.
[20:27] <kish> pitthappens, need to know the error message.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> ShadesEdge: i know the channel. I'd only be there 5 mins as I'm nearly home
[20:27] <Jordan_U> kasun: If you don't have an initrd you can't specify linux's root by UUID. But this is more of a discussion for #gentoo.
[20:27] <pitthappens> kish: Starting the Winbind daemon winbind [fail]
[20:27] <amit> how to change directory into desktop
[20:27] <kasun> trism: i see. If I use an initrd image of another gentoo installation (with same kernel version but different modules), will it work>
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Amit: cd ~/Desktop
[20:27] <HHX> thanks for the help ShadesEdge
[20:28] <kish> pitthappens, that doeesn't help much ;/
[20:28] <kish> pitthappens, try googling that
[20:28] <trism> kasun: can't say, haven't used gentoo in a long time, as Jordan_U said, probably more of a #gentoo problem at this point
[20:28] <amit> and how to install a .sh file
[20:28] <minashokry> bullgard4, the keys I talk about looks like they not give key code when I use xev
[20:28] <tamarche> What do you mean "install" an .sh
[20:28] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: Still here?
[20:28] <Jordan_U> amit: What are you actually trying to install?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Shadesedge: i come in the channel nearly daily. I know how to join channels ;)
[20:29] <pitthappens> kish: when i type testparm it says unable to open configuration file "/etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:29] <trism> kasun: I would guess probably not though
[20:29] <ShadesEdge> ActionParsnip: Just join the Ubuntu offtopic, this is for support, not for offtopic
[20:29] <amit> tamarche i mean to say how to run .sh file
[20:29] <minashokry> bullgard4, they print somethings like this
[20:29] <minashokry> FocusOut event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4a00001,
[20:29] <minashokry>     mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyAncestor
[20:29] <minashokry> FocusIn event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x4a00001,
[20:29] <minashokry>     mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyAncestor
[20:29] <minashokry> KeymapNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[20:29] <FloodBot1> minashokry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Amit: chmod +x filename; ./filename
[20:30] <tamarche> Do you know what an .sh file is?
[20:30] <kasun> trism: ok... thanks for the help.
[20:30] <tamarche> Answer come very easy in this channel . . .
[20:30] <afroman> anybody knows why I can't read nor burn dvds dual layer?
[20:30] <m477>  what is the name of program in 10.10+ instade gimp?
[20:31] <amit> tamarche its a sheel prog script
[20:31] <minashokry> bullgard4, when I press one of them in xev, I see something like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/610755/
[20:31] <amit> tamarche its a shell prog script
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> tamarche: file extensions mean little in Linux so could be anything
[20:31] <kasun> n
[20:31] <Jordan_U> amit: What are you actually trying to install?
[20:31] <stefan_> anyway to get nvidia driver working with ubuntu 11?
[20:31] <kish> pitthappens, you have to google those error messages in quotes. i don't know if you've tried that already but it's my only advice
[20:32] <tamarche> Good, when you want to execute a script, it must have permissions.
[20:32] <kfizz> Whenever I open "Sound Preferences" from the sound menu, a terminal opens up and a voice says "Welcome to Orca. Current desktop environment is classic gnome." and every time I close the terminal it just re-opens and says the same thing. Any ideas?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: which chip?
[20:32] <stefan_> ActionParsnip, gt 425m
[20:32] <amit> tamarche what type of permission
[20:32] <pitthappens> kish: if that would have solved my problem i wouldn't be here, but thanks anyway
[20:32] <Jordan_U> amit: What are you actually trying to install?
[20:33] <tamarche> execute permission, if it doesn't chmod +x allows it
[20:33] <tamarche> amit: well, changes permission to allow the file to execute
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> stefan_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:33] <Glycan> This is more linux that ubuntu, but what is a COM32R image? Google doesn't help at all.
[20:33] <bullgard4> minashokry: I beloeve, if xev does show an output like that in http://paste.ubuntu.com/610755/ then on your computer the driver for these "multimedia" keys is not installed.
[20:33] <stefan_> ActionParsnip, i installed the driver using the gui
[20:33] <amit> Jordan_U actually i amtrying to install j downloader
[20:33] <Glycan> Oh, and why is /boot/vesamenu.c32 not one? (Trying to live boot)
[20:33] <bullgard4> s/beloeve/believe/
[20:34] <stefan_> ActionParsnip, when i start ubuntu no gui comes up and doesnt show any errors. i now restored the old x11 config
[20:34] <minashokry> bullgard4, so, any suggestions?
[20:34] <kish> pitthappens, there is a channel for #samba
[20:34] <tamarche> Stefan
[20:34] <kish> i suspect that's related to winbind
[20:34] <tamarche> What video card do you have?
[20:35] <stefan_> nvidia geforce gt 425m
[20:35] <bullgard4> minashokry: I would recommend that you google for your computer type AND "multimedia keys".
[20:35] <FishErr> how i can install  integrated to titlebar program menu  to gnome in 11.04  (like in unity)?
[20:35] <tamarche> Mobile nvidias are a pain
[20:36] <fearful> Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me out with Libre Office, I have downloaded and installed the ttf mscorefonts and they do not appear in any of the fonts of the LibreOffice writer.
[20:36] <Guest2090> userlist
[20:36] <minashokry> bullgard4, they aren't multimedia keys. they are 3 buttons, on windows, one of them opens settings, one opens sound mixer and one can be assigned to launch an application of choice. any suggestions?
[20:36] <ShadesEdge> Yes they are
[20:36] <tamarche> stefan: What I did was use Sandra in windows to get my monitor's dispay id
[20:36] <bullgard4> minashokry: I would recommend that you google for your computer type AND "special keys".
[20:36] <tamarche> and manually add it to the xorg.conf
[20:36] <minashokry> bullgard4, thanks a lot
[20:37] <stefan_> will the driver work than?
[20:37] <tamarche> I recall it working afterwards, but that was with my 310m
[20:37] <stefan_> the thing is i just want to dim my display
[20:37] <Guest3728> anyone use gyachi chat
[20:37] <stefan_> ok in which section do i have to add the monitor id?
[20:37] <tamarche> I am at work, so I can't tell you what my settings were.
[20:38] <ward1234> newbie question... i was looking around my /tmp directory and saw a file called ssh-sUxyTKaD1881 what is it ....??
[20:38] <Guest3728> need help no sound in gyachi chat
[20:38] <ward1234> and i dont think i have ssh loeded on this machine yet
[20:38] <Glycan> Argh.
[20:38] <stefan_> ok i will try sandra thx
[20:38] <m477>  what is the name of program in 10.10+ instade gimp?
[20:38] <tamarche> instade?
[20:39] <m477> tamarche:  instead
[20:39] <bullgard4> ward1234: A ssh key only valid for the present session.
[20:39] <ward1234> bullgard44, thank you
[20:40] <abonec> hi, i have installed gtk2-engines-murrine but i don't know - how to launch this to configure?
[20:41] <tripelb> Hi, where do you get the codecs for .wav files ..
[20:41] <m477> if i convert 3gp to mpeg i will get better quality or to other extension?
[20:41] <ShadesEdge> When I try to connect to Ubuntu classic, it says XSession, unsupported number of arguments
[20:42] <duke_tim> Quality won't increase with conversion
[20:42] <towy71> m477, shotwell maybe
[20:42] <ShadesEdge> How can I connect to the Ubuntu classic interface without that bug?
[20:46] <kasun> trism: Jordan_U: I just gave a try with an initrd image. Now, I came to a point where it said, that it can't find the root device and ASKS for the correct one. It says; can not find the root device at/dev/disk/by-uuid/<id>. I'm pretty sure that I got it right. Any idea what went wrong?
[20:46] <sta7ic> plug and pray
[20:46] <Jordan_U> kasun: Again, this is a gentoo question. Ask in #gentoo.
[20:46] <JohnRandom> good evening
[20:47] <duke_tim> lol "plug n pray"
[20:47] <bullgard4> tripelb: codecs for .wav files  are commonplace. Usually Ubuntu installs them by default. If not, you may try to install the DEB program package gnome-codec-install.
[20:48] <JohnRandom> quick question: is there a special way how to configure a ssh server in ubuntu to bind remote portforwards to all interfaces instead of only loopback? "GatewayPorts yes" alone doesn't do the trick
[20:48] <LimitedAtonement> I just installed Windows SFU, has anyone heard of it?
[20:49] <kasun> Jordan_U: ok, sorry
[20:49] <sta7ic> LimitedAtonement: SFU? Shut fsck up?
[20:49] <bullgard4> ShadesEdge: Launchpad will tell you how to get rid of this bug.
[20:49] <joeoshawa> i am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on an older computer and had to use acpi=off to get the install to work but now i am getting the same bright pink screen when i boot the computer after install
[20:49] <Pici> LimitedAtonement: Yes, but I don't see what it has to do with Ubuntu.
[20:50] <ShadesEdge_> bullgard4: How can I change from X to tty
[20:50] <ShadesEdge_> I don't remember
[20:50] <joeoshawa> the card i am using is a asus v7100pro with 64m
[20:50] <duke_tim> ctrl + alt +f1
[20:50] <aguitel_>  joeoshawa ,use lxde
[20:50] <JohnRandom> or should I rather ask that in #ssh?
[20:50] <ShadesEdge_> In a VirtualBox
[20:50] <bullgard4> ShadesEdgeCtrl+Alt+F1.
[20:50] <BlouBlou> Are backports stable? Are they recommended to use?
[20:50] <sta7ic> joeoshawa: nolapic also?
[20:51] <Pici> LimitedAtonement: Depending on your question, ##windows might be a better place to ask.
[20:51] <ShadesEdge_> It's ok, I found it
[20:51] <bullgard4> !backports | BlouBlou
[20:51] <BlouBlou> bullgard4: I know what they are, I just want to know your opinions and experience with them
[20:52] <ShadesEdge_> No, finally it's not that
[20:52] <ShadesEdge_> :(
[20:52] <joeoshawa> well i put acpi=off in grub and then i saw the files loading like a standard linux version but when the window manager loaded i got the pink screen
[20:52] <bullgard4> BlouBlou: I personally have made only good experiences with Ubuntu backports.
[20:52] <joeoshawa> if that makes any sence
[20:53] <[HA1DFO]> Hi all. I've just upgraded my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and e16-gnome is not working correctly. If I start e16, I got enlightenment, but with e16-gnome, i got only gnome. I checked gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/session/required_components and it says e16. Do you have any other idea?
[20:53] <silvano> salve
[20:53] <BlouBlou> bullgard4: my question is (and yes, I read that doc, but didn't find it); If, for example, firefox gets updated by a backport, will a natty-update be able to fix a problem with that version, or it won't ?
[20:54] <Guest77351> Hi.I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 - All my programs and configs are installed - everything works superbly.MY QUESTION: How do I save all that on  dvd or hdd when I install ubuntu next on a different partition,everything will be  installed automaticly
[20:54] <joeoshawa> when i installed i pressed esc then F6 then no apci and the live cd booted fine
[20:54] <HHX> .
[20:55] <[HA1DFO]> Another issue: it is my ~7th upgrade, and I got a kernel panic every time. Every time. Reboot, dpkg --configure -a in failsafe terminal, now it boots okay. Do I have anything else to do?
[20:55] <joeoshawa> a little bright mind you
[20:56] <Guest77351> Anyone
[20:56] <bullgard4> BlouBlou: I don't think that a Natty update will be able to fix a problem of this kind in all circumstances. I noticed in the past that I had to do some hand-work.
[20:56] <Logan_> !anyone | Guest77351
[20:56] <Logan_> oops
[20:56] <Logan_> !please | Guest77351
[20:57] <Guest77351> like Ubuntu Customazation Kit
[20:57] <Guest77351> but I wish to install
[20:57] <Guest77351> no Live cd
[20:57] <Guest77351>  install with all my pachages apps and configs
[20:57] <ShadesEdge_> Can someone explain me why I am banned from this channel?
[20:57] <Pici> ShadesEdge_: Please ask in #ubuntu-ops
[20:57] <ShadesEdge_> Okay
[21:00] <RevSpecies116> Guest77351: The packages part can be duplicated from within Ubuntu Software Center
[21:00] <Guest77351> How
[21:00] <ironhalik> 4does anyone know where can I turn off the pidgin status change notifications?
[21:00] <RevSpecies116> As to configs, they would be in your home directory
[21:00] <Guest77351> :)
[21:00] <ironhalik> by god, I cant find it
[21:01] <ShadesEdge> Hello
[21:01] <LjL> ShadesEdge: i read you
[21:01] <trism> ironhalik: Tools/Plugins libnotify plugin, you can hit configure to determine what notifications are sent
[21:02] <Dimitar> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:02] <Dimitar> what do i do about this
[21:02] <Dimitar> i cant open synaptic :(
[21:02] <ironhalik> thanks trism
[21:02] <eric__> hi
[21:04] <ITkub> my laptop's processor is an Amd 64 can i install kubuntu 10.04  32 bit version?
[21:04] <Pici> ITkub: yes.
[21:04] <eric__> ? Ubuntu 10.10 samba4 error
[21:04] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: Yes you can
[21:04] <ITkub> aren't we obliged to use the 64 systems?
[21:04] <rww> no
[21:04] <hrezaei> hi people!
[21:04] <rww> either should work fine
[21:04] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: We aren't
[21:04] <ITkub> oh thanks dear ALL
[21:05] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: Personally, I would just install the 64 bits version with more than 3 GB
[21:05] <ShadesEdge> And then, if really needed, make a 32-bit chroot
[21:05] <hrezaei> what is upgrade ubuntu (from10.10 to 11.04) process? how much download it needs?
[21:06] <BlouBlou> guys, a problem reported in launchpad (if that app is supported by canonical), will be solved in backports or in natty-updates?
[21:06] <DJones> hrezaei: It depends what you've got installed, a basic system is probably a 700mb download based on the install cd being 700mb
[21:06] <maco> BlouBlou: depends when and how it gets fixed
[21:06] <LjL> BlouBlou: that depends
[21:06] <vorlov> where in 11.04's gnome does one find the startup scripts?
[21:06] <ITkub> ShadesEdge : i had some troubles with glib , this is why i'll try to install the 32 may be it will work better
[21:06] <vorlov> i would like a terminal script to launch on startup when the gnome x interface loads
[21:07] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: How many RAM do you have?
[21:07] <BlouBlou> LjL: for example, unity problem with geforce fx series?
[21:07] <BlouBlou> both are supported
[21:07] <Dimitar_> hello?
[21:07] <maco> BlouBlou: if its fixed in a new upstream release of teh software and we can pull out a little patch, then -updates. if pulling out a patch for it isnt possible, then the new upstream version can go in -backports
[21:07] <ITkub> 3 Go
[21:07] <HelloWorld321> stupid  question for the new Natty GUI: how do I get the Launchbar to collapse?  Mine is stuck there and is blocking part of my spreadsheet
[21:07] <LjL> BlouBlou: which fx, my fx5200 isn't supported at all. but anyway for supported cards i suspect, as long as the problems are not with the proprietary driver, high priority will be given. just my own idea though
[21:08] <BlouBlou> LjL: 5500 fx
[21:08] <LjL> BlouBlou: still, if it doesn't end in -updates, it's unlikely that something as "core" as Unity will ever be in backports
[21:08] <mcl0vin> anyone here worked with ddrescue , can help me please
[21:08] <BlouBlou> LjL: oh, backports only include "daily" software, like for example... firefox, pidgin..., right?
[21:08] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: You can stay with 32 bits with less problem, and it will be better to have a 32 bit OS
[21:08] <hrezaei> DJones: in the update manager only there is 4 updates to download.22mb. so upgrade does not take much time. is it true?
[21:09] <ShadesEdge> What is the name of the Gnome theme already?
[21:09] <DJones> hrezaei: That sounds like its just a normal update rather than the upgrade to 11.04
[21:09] <ShadesEdge> I don't remember :S
[21:10] <Mannyuel> does anyone know of the ubuntu icon used to replace the start icon orb in windows is called?
[21:10] <ITkub>  <ShadesEdge>  do you have an idea about this arror prob : usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[21:10] <vorlov> is there a way to launch a python script everytime gnome logs in
[21:10] <vorlov> on natty
[21:10] <vorlov> ?
[21:10] <triorieel> How do I install only 1 package as unsupported or pre-release? (I don't want my whole system to change, just 1 package)
[21:11] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: I don't really know
[21:11] <ITkub> ] <ShadesEdge> no prob thanks any way
[21:11] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: Nope
[21:11] <triorieel> ie. I would like synaptic package manager to show ALL packages so I can choose things manually, and the update manager to only get supported packages when outdated
[21:12] <joeoshawa> triorieel, just install basic ubuntu then install the package after
[21:12] <ShadesEdge> ITkub: have a nice day with Kubuntu. :)
[21:12] <arjhun1984> hello people! i have a question concerning my arno's iptables firewall... could somebody help me out... i have both my external and internal network on the same interface eth0... I woant to allow anything on <IP_ADDRESS>/24... but i cant configure the INT if as eth0... :S
[21:12] <joeoshawa> triorieel, sudo apt-get install packageiwant
[21:12] <ITkub> yeah i'll try !!!!!!
[21:12] <ShadesEdge> What's the name of the GNOME theme used by default?
[21:12] <trism> vorlov: add it to System Settings/Startup Applications
[21:12] <ShadesEdge> Human?
[21:12] <triorieel> joeoshawa, but I want the beta version, notthe supported version
[21:12] <ward1234> another newb question whats libfakeroot for ?
[21:13] <vorlov> trism: i did that.. yet it never loads up
[21:13] <RevSpecies116> ShadesEdge: Radiance?
[21:13] <vorlov> trism: i would like it to open up a terminal window with my script running in it....
[21:13] <ward1234> no man page <pout>
[21:13] <trism> vorlov: ahh then you will have to do something like: gnome-terminal -x python /path/to/script
[21:13] <joeoshawa> triorieel, no idea
[21:14] <_stefan> ctrl + alt + f2 doesn't show a console just freezes
[21:14] <joeoshawa> i don't use beta's unless i have to
[21:14] <rumpe1> vorlov, why not "gnome-terminal --command="python script.py"" in gnome-autostart?
[21:14] <ShadesEdge> The one in the 10.10
[21:14] <vorlov> rumpe1: ill try stby
[21:14] <LjL> BlouBlou: it includes software that doesn't have hard dependencies, mostly
[21:14] <RevSpecies116> I believe Radiance [Radience?]
[21:14] <BlouBlou> LjL: then, would you recommend it for me?
[21:14] <_stefan> can anyone help?
[21:15] <joeoshawa> what command to i type in in grub edit when booting to get the same as the noacpi command on the install cd
[21:15] <arjhun1984> hello people! i have a question concerning my arno's iptables firewall... could somebody help me out... i have both my external and internal network on the same interface eth0... I woant to allow anything on <IP_ADDRESS>/24... but i cant configure the INT if as eth0...
[21:15] <arjhun1984> oeps sorry for reposting
[21:16] <BlouBlou> LjL: Because I don't know if it will break my system, or not
[21:16] <Glycan> Argh!!!
[21:17] <RevSpecies116> _stefan: Not sure
[21:17] <DonNy88> QUERY [-nofocus] a1_
[21:17] <d1gital> Curses-based applications (specifically aptitude) are not redrawing the screen properly for me.  Characters are being left over and not replaced with blank space when something new is drawn.  Is this likely caused by my terminal emulator, or by s deeper misconfiguration?
[21:17] <neo3> Hi, guys. Is libre office better than OpenOffice? Why Ubuntu 11.04 has Libre office instead of OpenOffice?
[21:17] <vorlov> it doesn't do anything.... nothing launches on startup and when i try it manually inside a terminal window it just exits
[21:18] <BlouBlou> neo3: they are equal
[21:18] <RevSpecies116> neo3: One word: Oracle
[21:18] <RevSpecies116> neo3: Libre Office IS OOo :)
[21:18] <neo3> RevSpecies116: what is the difference?)
[21:18] <RevSpecies116> Not better not worse
[21:18] <RevSpecies116> just not controlled by Oracle
[21:18] <BlouBlou> neo3: it's "more free", I thinl
[21:18] <joeoshawa> how do i boot ubuntu with the lowest possible graphics
[21:19] <joeoshawa> from grub
[21:19] <gremset> How can I remove a new version of a package and install an older version?
[21:19] <joeoshawa> i know press e to edit but what command do i put in
[21:19] <neo3> BlouBlou: you are trying to say than OpenOffice has been just renamed?
[21:19] <BlouBlou> RevSpecies116: well, but... Ubuntu is controlled by canonical, I don't understand it :P
[21:19] <BlouBlou> neo3: no
[21:20] <maco> neo3: it's forked
[21:20] <BlouBlou> neo3: I wanted to say they are equal at working time, and gui interface, they are not the same app
[21:20] <maco> neo3: getting patches into OOo is and always has been *hard* --- for that reason, ubuntu always shipped Go-OOo, which is a fork of OOo with extra patches
[21:20] <maco> neo3: Go-OOo is now LibreOffice
[21:20] <trism> vorlov: if your command just prints something and exits, the terminal will not remain, you could try something like: gnome-terminal -x bash -c 'python /path/to/script && read -p "Press enter to continue"'
[21:21] <DJones> neo3: Libreoffice is a fork of open office, effectivelly the same software but the developers fell out with the owners of openofice & & started to redevelop it as Libre office with improvements & faster fixes
[21:21] <BluesKaj> joeoshawa, s root, open /boot/grub/grub.conf in your favorite text editor and add nomodeset to the kernel line.
[21:21] <BluesKaj> as root
[21:21] <_genuser_> hello ppl
[21:21] <neo3> I understand, thanks
[21:21] <trism> vorlov: or actually probably ; instead of &&, in case your script exits with an error
[21:21] <BluesKaj> joeoshawa, the sudo update-grub
[21:22] <joeoshawa> thanks
[21:22] <BluesKaj> then
[21:22] <jose> hola
[21:23] <RevSpecies116> LOL, BlouBlou - Canonical has a vested interest in Ubuntu succeding, so until at least 14.04LTS I can see Ubuntu as being in safe hands
[21:23] <RevSpecies116> But as soon as Canonical pulls in the reigns...
[21:23] <RevSpecies116> Oracle on the other hand wanted to monetise their aquisition of Sun straight away
[21:23] <RevSpecies116> in the process ticking of the OOS comunity
[21:24] <scuffy> Hi!
[21:24] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, have you figured out the boot
[21:24] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, in low graphics?
[21:24] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: I don't know how to do it from grub
[21:24] <BlouBlou> I'm sorry
[21:25] <iceroot> what is the common way to convert an ext4 volume into ext3?
[21:25] <iceroot> without formating
[21:25] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, do you now?
[21:25] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: No
[21:26] <Saw> hi guys. I'm trying to install ubuntu server, and a bit stuck at the partition scheme. After I set up everything I want and encrypt everything, trying to proceed on, i'm getting error no root file system is defined. After few tries, I think it has to do with the fact I encrypted most of my drives. Does the / mount point has to be non-encrypted?
[21:26] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, boot the recovery partition line and at the gui 4th box down is a safe boot .
[21:26] <scuffy> I am very distressed that I can not seem to figure out how change the passwd box to "no Echo."  I do not like to see bullets coming up every time I have to type in my passwords
[21:27] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: I told you that I don't know
[21:27] <RevSpecies116> scuffy: You jest
[21:27] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, you get a grub menu correct?
[21:27] <scuffy> Nope!
[21:27] <ubuntu555> hello, I'd like to ask some advice: I have a plan to put my computer in a cupboard, which is 6 meters away from my desk. Should I buy extension cables for monitor, keyboard and mouse to do that or do I need somekind of box in the middle?
[21:27] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: Correct
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> about SSH, my remote pc's hostname is debian-server, but i cannot ssh to it, only to its ip-address, hints & tips pls?
[21:28] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: because you dont have a dns
[21:28] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: oh... maybe you confused me with joeoshawa
[21:28] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, choose the kernel that says recovery it is the second one, hit enter
[21:28] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: easiest way is to put the hostname and ip in your /etc/hosts
[21:28] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: joeoshawa was asking for it, not me :P
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: in the client or in the server?
[21:29] <nit-wit> BlouBlou, sorry bro I am a nit-wit .;)
[21:29] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: doesnt matter where the dns is running
[21:29] <KerrMD> ubuntu555: Either way. Extention cables would be cheaper I think. That said, I would use a kvm switch just because I am that geeky.
[21:29] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: but how should your client know what ip adress belongs to debian-server?
[21:29] <BlouBlou> nit-wit: don't worry, I was thinking "about what is he talking about?" hehe :)
[21:29] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: that is the job of a dns-server
[21:29] <BlouBlou> what is he talking about*
[21:30] <nit-wit> joeoshawa, are you in good shape without me searching around to find out.
[21:31] <flaco> hi all.. I'm trying to upgrade from 10.04 but I'm getting this http://dpaste.com/544825/ any ideas?
[21:31] <ubuntu555> I just googled - kvm switch looks a cool thing. Thanks, KerrMD. I think this is what i will use
[21:31] <KerrMD> ubuntu555: welcome
[21:31] <bobobobobobobob> I had 10 on my laptop and then I downloaded and installed new 11.  I love it but the wireless wont work.  Before i think I was using the broadcom STA....why woudl the driver stop working?
[21:31] <RevSpecies116> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I22JsYfOGqc for Scuffy whom left the chat
[21:33] <RevSpecies116> scuffy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I22JsYfOGqc
[21:33] <joeoshawa> BluesKaj, the problem with what you told me is that i cannot boot into ubuntu at all so i tried it from the grub boot menu but no go
[21:33] <nit-wit> bobobobobobobob, there seems to be a broadcom wireless problem with natty per the Ubuntu Forums post look there it may help.
[21:33] <lillem4n> My touchpad stops working after sleep. Is there a way to force-detect and make it working again?
[21:33] <nit-wit> *posts
[21:33] <bobobobobobobob> ah
[21:34] <bobobobobobobob> just odd that it worked in 10 and stopped...lol
[21:34] <lillem4n> It sucks to have to always reboot my laptop when I close the lid :S
[21:34] <nit-wit> bobobobobobobob, that is the cocensus I hear as well.;)
[21:34] <nit-wit> *consensus
[21:34] <ubuntuhater> I have a problem
[21:34] <RevSpecies116> go ahead ubuntuhater
[21:35] <ubuntuhater> [note] this error is on a virtual machine
[21:35] <rkmoore> hi
[21:35] <ubuntuhater> Ubuntu 11.04 starts
[21:35] <nit-wit> lillem4n, you shouldn't you need the edit the lid part i gconf-editer then power
[21:35] <ubuntuhater> I casn log in
[21:35] <FANUM> anyone know if ubuntu notifications work with xchat-gnome? someone wanna DM me to test it? or just quote me here?
[21:35] <nit-wit> *in
[21:35] <rkmoore> anyone know which channel is good for asking python questions in?
[21:36] <nit-wit> lillem4n, would you like to know how to fix this?
[21:36] <bobobobobobobob> nit-wit: thanks, the other odd thing is that the wireless worked for the install
[21:36] <ubuntuhater> I can log into ubuntu 11.04 but after compiz fails and all i get is a cursor and a desktop background
[21:36] <lillem4n> nit-wit: Yes please! Great news :)
[21:36] <bobobobobobobob> cant I just use that?
[21:36] <nit-wit> bobobobobobobob, scarry
[21:36] <BluesKaj> joeoshawa, sorry i was mistaken about the answer i gave you , add "nomodeset" after quiet spalsh in /etc/default grub/ , then update grub
[21:37] <nit-wit> lilleman your in natty right
[21:37] <RevSpecies116> ubuntuhater: Try Unity 2D
[21:37] <bobobobobobobob> i know, I installed on wireless and then after the restart had to switch to wired.....
[21:37] <lillem4n> nit-wit: yup
[21:37] <Ameth> Is there a way to connect to my computer remotely without loging in on the host computer?
[21:37] <lillem4n> Ameth: SSH?
[21:37] <scuffy> I'm still here. Trying to write down as i type. thanks!
[21:38] <nit-wit> lillem4n, the hit aft-f2 then tyop gconf-editor and open it
[21:38] <ubuntuhater> how do i set that?
[21:38] <lillem4n> nit-wit: yup :)
[21:38] <Ameth> Like vnc. With a gui. I cant connect with vino because it does not start without loging in.
[21:39] <lillem4n> Ameth: Ok... Then I dont know. But I'm interested if you find an answer. :)
[21:39] <nit-wit> lillem4n, go tp apps-gnome power manager the buttons
[21:39] <Ameth> I do have ssh installed though and it allows me to connect without login on the host
[21:39] <RevSpecies116> OKies, ubuntuhater, have you set your virtualised OS to ask for a password before you log in
[21:39] <maco> Ameth: you can do "ssh -X" to get graphical apps forwarded through X
[21:39] <RevSpecies116> Or does it just load directly to a desktop
[21:39] <ubuntuhater> yes
[21:40] <maco> Ameth: erm, through ssh
[21:40] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, yes
[21:40] <lillem4n> nit-wit: yup?
[21:40] <Ameth> maco, I have that set up and it works great, but I am looking for some way to do full gui
[21:40] <RevSpecies116> OKies, ubuntuhater, before you type in your password for the user you log in as, is there an option along the bottom of the screen that says Ubuntu Unity
[21:40] <RevSpecies116> Or Classic Desktop?
[21:41] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, Ubuntu Classic
[21:41] <Ameth> lillem4n, I will get back to you if I figure it out then.
[21:41] <nit-wit> lillem4n, change the lidsc and lid battery to do nothong by doble clicking to edit. then close go to your power gui and lok at the lid buttons should be a do nothing or nothing there.
[21:41] <lillem4n> Ameth: awesome :)
[21:41] <nit-wit> *nothing
[21:41] <Tatsujin> Youtube runs in slow motion on my  Asus E35M1-I DELUXE AMD Fusion despite having installed the proprietary automatically on bootup the first time, I have googled but it seems this motherboard is too new so i don't see any help threads.
[21:41] <RevSpecies116> ubuntuhater: When you click Ubuntu Classic [to change it] what are your other options?
[21:41] <Tatsujin> drivers+
[21:41] <nit-wit> lid ac lid battery to nothing
[21:41] <lillem4n> nit-wit: Oh... but doesnt that make the computer not sleep when I close the lid?
[21:42] <BitMoose> I have ubuntu 10.4 and windows xp 2002 installed on my computer but i want to get rid of windows now... how can i do this?
[21:42] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, It just crashed
[21:42] <nit-wit> lille it just adds the option of nothing to the list alraedy there.
[21:42] <RevSpecies116> Crashed at the login screen?
[21:42] <lillem4n> Okies. *trying* :)
[21:42] <seanicus> can someone please help me with my sound?  My laptop doesn't play sound through the speakers or external speakers but it does play sound through headphones
[21:43] <seanicus> it works perfectly well wen I book into windows though
[21:43] <ubuntuhater> [Kernel Error] Please restart your system.
[21:43] <nit-wit> lillem4n, adds nothing to the lid controls in power
[21:43] <tensorpudding> BitMoose: what exactly do you want? do you just want windows gone, or do you want to expand ubuntu to use the newly freed disk space?
[21:43] <RevSpecies116> How many times have you tried to install Ubuntu in this virtual machine
[21:43] <RevSpecies116> because if just the once, it may be a failed install
[21:43] <BitMoose> to get rid of windows and expand ubuntu
[21:43] <tensorpudding> BitMoose: either way, the way to remove it is to delete the partition that it inhabits
[21:44] <RevSpecies116> If this is your second time to install with the same problem in the virtualisation, it could be the VM programme you are using
[21:44] <nit-wit> lillem4n, do you have your lid set to hibernate rather then sleep is that the problem.
[21:44] <BitMoose> how would i go about deleting the partition?
[21:44] <tensorpudding> BitMoose: you can't expand the ubuntu partition though, unless you're in a live environment, which means booting from an ubuntu cd
[21:44] <ubuntuhater> Once
[21:44] <BitMoose> ok
[21:44] <lillem4n> nit-wit: I think it was set to suspend before I changed to "Do nothing"
[21:44] <lillem4n> but
[21:44] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, Once
[21:44] <lillem4n> *testing* :)
[21:44] <tensorpudding> BitMoose: there is a tool called gparted, which you can install from the software center (i believe it's available on the cd)
[21:45] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, Im going to restart with my backup
[21:45] <RevSpecies116> If it is simple enough for you to do, try another install on a fresh VM machine and see if that 'fixes' it
[21:45] <RevSpecies116> As the simple thing could be a corrupt installation
[21:45] <adam2323s> hi, my machine sometimes hangs on plymouth, anyone knows what can cause this hangs?
[21:45] <BitMoose> thanks
[21:45] <multipass> would anyone recommend the rarlabs rar program?
[21:45] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, Oh I am already done :) I'll try it
[21:45] <tensorpudding> BitMoose: using this tool, you can delete the partition, the one you want will be the ntfs one
[21:45] <adam2323s> or how to successfully get rid of plymouth
[21:45] <tensorpudding> multipass: do you need to create rar files?
[21:46] <lillem4n> nit-wit: Nope. Touchpad still dies when I suspend the computer
[21:46] <RevSpecies116> IF it still does the same thing that's when the fun starts ;)
[21:46] <tensorpudding> multipass: if so, there isn't any other tools which can do it that i know of
[21:46] <multipass> yeah, can the archive manager do it?
[21:46] <lillem4n> I can close the lid now tho, but the battery will run out in no time if it isnt suspended
[21:46] <tensorpudding> multipass: i don't know if archive manager can interface with it
[21:46] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, O_O it does still do it
[21:46] <adam2323s> my machine sometimes hangs on plymouth, anyone knows what can cause this hangs?
[21:47] <nit-wit> lillem4n, ah touchpad so it dies so you can restart with it? does the touchpad work after woken up?
[21:47] <RevSpecies116> OKies, and when you try and change the selection from Ubuntu Classic, that's when it crashes?
[21:47] <SkrappJaw> Any Debian buffs in the house? I can't boot Nautilus as root. Gives me an error about Dbus Server and Daemon.
[21:47] <ubuntuhater> yes
[21:47] <ubuntuhater> oh check this out
[21:47] <isarl|work> Is this where I should ask for help upgrading Eclipse 3.5 to 3.6?  I've followed the directions elsewhere but I think it's an issue with me using 10.04 instead of some other distro (apparently the instructions work fine on Windows Eclipse installs).
[21:47] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: presumably, you need to run dbus
[21:47] <scuffy> RevSpecies116- Got it Thankyou's a bunch!
[21:47] <lillem4n> nit-wit: Nope. Touchpad is always dead after woke up. If I plug in a USB mouse it works fine. But I have to reboot to get the touchpad working again :S
[21:47] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: running nautilus as root sounds like a poor plan
[21:47] <ubuntuhater> [3d acceleration active][128mb video memory]
[21:48] <RevSpecies116> scuffy: No troubles :)
[21:48] <trism> multipass: sudo apt-get install rar; then you can right click a folder, compress... and choose .rar
[21:48] <RevSpecies116> BUT, scuffy, that system may fail in 11.10, as Ubuntu migrates to GNOME3 and Unity proper
[21:48] <ubuntuhater> Running in recovery mode
[21:48] <adam2323s> anyone have issues with plymouth in 11.4 natty?
[21:48] <RevSpecies116> The method used to change the chars in the box withs for GNOME2
[21:48] <nit-wit> lillem4n, I have seen this problem posted on occasion at the Ubuntu Forums a search on google with the forum name and the problem may get you some more info as well.
[21:49] <SkrappJaw> tensorpudding: Nautilus makes it easier to get familiar with the directory structures. I'm only 6 months into Ubu and Debian.
[21:49] <RevSpecies116> withs = works
[21:49] <m477> how to get labview on ubuntu? ;/
[21:49] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: are you invoking nautilus with gksu?
[21:49] <lillem4n> nit-wit: Yeah. I'm gonna dig :) Thanks a lot for the help so far :)
[21:49] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: this is the right way to do it, which works for me
[21:49] <RevSpecies116> ubuntuhater: what's the VM software? VMWare, VirtualBox?
[21:49] <nit-wit> lillem4n, I wish I knew an answer I have mine turned off lol.;)
[21:49] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, Failed to read x11 config file. Would do like to rebuild it?
[21:49] <SkrappJaw> I tried. Failed all the same.
[21:50] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: can you put a pastebin of the whole error/
[21:50] <multipass> is there any zip/tar/rar program that can interface with nautilus so u can right click a folder and zip it?
[21:50] <tapple> what are usb disks called in /dev these days?
[21:50] <RevSpecies116> ubuntuhater: you can try and rebuild it. You don't have any data to lose? it is a fresh instal?
[21:50] <ubuntuhater> yes
[21:50] <ubuntuhater> fresh
[21:51] <Rigorm0rtis> tapple, usually /dev/sdx just like regular drives.
[21:51] <trism> multipass: you already can, right click the folder, Compress..., choose .zip in the dropdown box
[21:51] <rumpe1> multipass, usually zip/tar/gz works right ootb
[21:51] <tapple> ok. it's not in dev then. thanks
[21:51] <tensorpudding> tapple: disks in ubuntu appear as /dev/sdX, usually linked via UUID or label in /dev/disk/by-uuid, and mounted in /media
[21:51] <rumpe1> multipass, for rar install unrar or unrar-nonfree
[21:51] <multipass> oh thanks trism
[21:52] <SkrappJaw> tensorpudding: No. Sorry. I'm away with my laptop. I don't have access to the pc with debian right now.
[21:52] <tensorpudding> tapple: udev does nice stuff to handle this
[21:52] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: wait, you're on debian? why are you asking here?
[21:52] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: there's a channel #debian where people using debian can get support (though in this case it probably makes no difference this is not true in general)
[21:52] <ubuntuhater> RevSpecies116, VirtualBox 4.0.8
[21:53] <SkrappJaw> tensorpudding: ok. cool. Thanks a bunch. I'll ad that to my channels.
[21:53] <tensorpudding> tapple: basically, the usual way is that things get automatically mounted, you can figure out what device corresponds to a mounted volume by checking the output of 'mount'
[21:54] <ubuntuhater> albino
[21:54] <ubuntuhater> are you albino becuase i am
[21:54] <SkrappJaw> tensorpudding: I was asking cuz ubuntu is based on Debian. :P
[21:54] <RevSpecies116> ubuntuhater: you doing this from inside Windows, Mac, or another Linux install?
[21:54] <tensorpudding> SkrappJaw: this is true but Ubuntu has some pretty big differences nowadays
[21:54] <RevSpecies116> As you may need to install the VBox addons
[21:54] <Pete__> Hello i have ubuntu 10.04 lts and wish to use 11.04 with out loosing all my progress is there i way that i can switch over and still have all my stuff?
[21:54] <Travis-42> since moving to unity and 11.04, i've experienced sluggish performance of things like moving windows. I have plenty of ram and a fast nvidia card with the proprietary drivers installed. what might be responsible?
[21:54] <ubuntuhater> Windows using the DVD full distro iso file
[21:54] <RevSpecies116> to enable proper (and not emulated) 3D acceloration
[21:55] <ubuntuhater> VBOX addons 4.0.6
[21:55] <tensorpudding> Pete__: you can upgrade to 10.10, then to 11.04, but it's much faster to backup and reinstall
[21:55] <ubuntuhater> 4.0.8 is not yet available
[21:55] <ubuntuhater> VBox was released 05/15/2011
[21:55] <Pete__> ok so you can back it up though
[21:55] <SkrappJaw> tensorpudding: Ya. Especially with 11.04. Im moving to a different distro of Ubuntu. I'm digging lxde ubuntu.
[21:55] <SkrappJaw> Unity isnt my cup of tea.
[21:56] <tensorpudding> Pete__: oh, in *that* case, you'll probably not want to back up package selections
[21:56] <tapple> oh. that's the problem. nothing is even showing up in dmesg when I plug and unplug usb disks
[21:56] <tensorpudding> Pete__: which means installing apps by hand
[21:56] <tensorpudding> Pete__: and by installing apps by hand, I meant installing them through the software center one by one, as opposed to compiling them
[21:56] <beachbum_Bob> is handbrake the movie maker app for ubuntu ?
[21:56] <tensorpudding> Pete__: but in any case, you'll want to back up your home directory
[21:57] <Pete__> ok what does every one think of 11.04 and is it best to stay at 10.04 0r 10.10 ????
[21:57] <guntbert> !ot | Pete__
[21:57] <ubuntuhater> damn damn damn
[21:57] <guntbert> ubuntuhater: what is the matter?
[21:57] <tensorpudding> i think 11.04 is great, and that people who aren't afraid of a couple bugs should upgrade
[21:57] <RevSpecies116> ubuntuhater: If you followed the instructions from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/running-ubuntu-11-04-natty-unity-3d-on-virtualbox-4-x.html and still not working, it may be VBox error
[21:57] <tensorpudding> but that's not on-topic
[21:57] <meLon> I cannot connect to my smtp server after following the directions in the postfix guide.  I am unable to find any logs or anything describing what's wrong, except that telnet says Connection closed by foreign host.
[21:58] <tapple> oh. it works if I plug the disk into the usb port on the back of the computer, but not the front
[21:58] <Pete__> ok well thanks for everything take care!!
[21:58] <bob1991> Hey
[21:58] <guntbert> meLon: join me in #ubuntu-server please
[21:58] <tapple> wonder why the kernel isn't noticing the usb ports on the front of the computer
[21:59] <bob1991> How is the latest Ubuntu?
[21:59] <tapple> the disk is getting power, so the ports are plugged into the motherboard at least
[22:00] <RevSpecies116> bob1991: Not sure, I only use LTS's :)
[22:00] <bob1991> okay
[22:00] <RevSpecies116> BUT I really wish Unity would come to 10.04LTS
[22:00] <patyx7> Hi all, wondering if anyone is having trouble with empathy and msn (random disconnects)
[22:00] <bob1991> Nopes. Works fine here.
[22:01] <patyx7> ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:01] <bob1991> I use 9.10.
[22:01] <rootuser23> 10.10 LTC my favourite
[22:01] <rww> LTC isn't a thing, and 10.10 isn't an LTS ;P
[22:02] <bob1991> I'm root. Obey me.
[22:02] <lbod> hiya, im on 10.04 and love it but gedit plugins: is there any option that can sync the file browser to the active window?
[22:02] <rootuser23> sudo apt-get moo
[22:02] <Ameth> mooooo
[22:02] <RevSpecies116> I can't wait till April next year :)
[22:02] <beachbum_Bob> is handbrake the movie maker app for ubuntu ?
[22:02] <bob1991> What's coming?
[22:02] <RevSpecies116> 12.04LTS
[22:03] <bob1991> cool
[22:03] <bob1991> But I find Debian more stable and better.
[22:03] <patyx7> crashbang ;)?
[22:03] <rootuser23> ah and shit i meant 10.04 LTC lol
[22:03] <RevSpecies116> LTC = LTS
[22:03] <rootuser23> service why not
[22:04] <lbod> no no sync option with the file browser in gedit then? i dont like bluefish for editting
[22:04] <RevSpecies116> bob1991: Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable ;) But Debian Stable is good too
[22:06] <_stefan> how do i disable x server autorestart?
[22:06] <HelloWorld321> In LibreCalc: How do I make a frame (or other container) that points to a named chart on another tab?
[22:06] <seanicus> Did anyone see my question?
[22:06] <seanicus> I can only hear sound otu of my headphones
[22:07] <_stefan> whenever i kill x server it immedieatly restarts that sucks because i can't install the nvidia driver
[22:08] <BluesKaj> !audio |seanicus
[22:08] <seanicus> BluesKaj: I've done all that
[22:08] <seanicus> Also I had this problem for nearly a year
[22:08] <seanicus> So I'm pretty sure it's not the volume
[22:08] <Younder> Unity is still a bit quirky. If you use change option with scmm it often crashes the window manager. Thing to do is: Press <crrl>-<alt>-1 to open. a text termial. Log in. now write sudo service gdm stop, sudo service gdm start. log out. Then <crrl><alt>-7 to get back to gdm. Log in.
[22:09] <HelloWorld321> In LibreCalc: How do I make a frame (or other container) that points to a named chart on another tab?
[22:09] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm really confused.  I just tried installing gnome3 & gnome shell onto 11.04, but now gdm has issues and hangs at a blank screen (all black)... It won't even give me a choice as to what windows mgr to use, or who to log in as.  Any suggestions?
[22:09] <BluesKaj> stefan3, don't kill the xserver , just drop to a tty , sudo service gdm stop , then install the driver anbd start gdm again
[22:09] <Erics2> hello
[22:10] <lbod> is there another room to ask gedit questions?
[22:10] <SeanInSeattle> My machine is basically unusable, at this point. I could really use some assistance.
[22:11] <patyx7> Pretty sure installing g3 onto unity was advised against.
[22:11] <patyx7> :(
[22:11] <lbod> i just want the active window in gedit to sync with the file browser.. doesnt seem like something it shouldnt support
[22:11] <seanicus> BluesKaj: don't just make ubottu tell me things...are you able to help me or not?
[22:12] <SeanInSeattle> patyx7: Why's that?
[22:12] <SeanInSeattle> patyx7: what does it screw up?
[22:12] <guntbert> seanicus: mind your attitude please
[22:12] <usr13> lbod: You might try re-phrasing your question.
[22:12] <adalgiso> seanics: chances are your answer is in the wiki/community docs
[22:12] <Younder> SeanInSeattle, try loggin into a text terminal <ctrl>-<alt>-1 or if you can't do that reboot and use grub to log ito a text terminal. Then remove gnome3 and gnome 3 shell
[22:12] <seanicus> adalgiso: then please direct me towards it, because I've had this problem for a full year
[22:13] <seanicus> and sitll havnet been able to solve it
[22:13] <aptest> SeanInSeattle: maybe you can go terminal put something in your .xinitrc file and try startx
[22:13] <adalgiso> seanicus: do you have any more information to add?
[22:13] <BluesKaj> !attitude |seanicus
[22:13] <seanicus> adalgiso: about my problem?
[22:14] <BluesKaj> BBL, gotta mow the lawn
[22:14] <utnubu> lf a backlight -> keybinding script
[22:14] <adalgiso> seanicus: yeah, "audio doesn't work" just isnt enough info to go on, can you add anything else to help us direct you?
[22:14] <Younder> SeanInSeattle, It is probably better to wait with gnome 3. There is a reason ubuntu doesn't install it pr default..
[22:14] <seanicus> adalgiso: Did you read up?
[22:14] <Mannyuel> i just upgraded from 10.10 to natty..... where is my unity panel?
[22:14] <lbod> usr13: im using gedit for html/js editting.. i'm using the file browser plugin.. when i switch tabs i want the file browser to sync to the active file and i cant see any options.. it wastes a long time navigating the file system
[22:14] <seanicus> adalgiso: I said more than "audio doesn't work"  Did you read up?
[22:15] <seanicus> In fact I said that the headphones worked, remember adalgiso ?
[22:15] <adalgiso> seanicus: i see that your audio isn't working except out the headphone jack
[22:15] <patyx7> SeanInSeattle, pretty sure Unity still relies on Gnome2 libs
[22:15] <squonk> hi people: okay need just a lil help. Does ubuntu classic using gnome have a utility that will let me adjust the screen rez on my Toshiba sat laptop?
[22:15] <squonk> it found literally everything else
[22:15] <Mannyuel> i just upgraded from 10.10 to natty..... where is my unity panel? i dont have a taskbar or anything, im launching my apps through synapse
[22:15] <seanicus> adalgiso: rght, well what am I supposed to do about it?  I have my sound card *I think*, but I dont even understand most of the guides
[22:15] <squonk> but my display is kinda tiny
[22:16] <SeanInSeattle> Younder: I'm trying "sudo apt-get remove gnome3" and that fails.  What's the exact pkg name?
[22:16] <patyx7> Did you use a ppa?
[22:16] <adalgiso> seanicus: is your sound card detected in your sound preferences? do you see an output for your speakers?
[22:17] <seanicus> adalgiso: I don't even know how to do that.
[22:17] <utnubu> 13
[22:17] <seanicus> is it aplay -l?  lspci?
[22:17] <utnubu>                                                                                >>
[22:17] <adalgiso> seanicus: theres volume control options in your menus, should be under System in either Administration or Preferences
[22:18] <adalgiso> seanicus: its very possible that your speaker channel is jsut muted
[22:18] <guntbert> squonk: tiny? are you running it inside a virtual machine?
[22:18] <adalgiso> seanicus: i dont know the command line option for aplay, but if you have alsamixer installed you can check it with that
[22:19] <seanicus> adalgiso: I did alsamixer
[22:19] <seanicus> I put everything as high as it could go
[22:19] <sburwood1> I want to move and resize the partitions "/" and "/home".  How do I do that, since they are both mounted and necessary?  Also, I would like to backup with nepomuk or something like that, but when I try, it tells me that there is a problem
[22:19] <Younder> SeanInSeattle, found this: http://www.ajopaul.com/2011/04/26/ubuntu-11-04-uninstall-gnome3-and-revert-to-gnome-2-x/
[22:19] <sburwood1> I want to backup /home
[22:20] <escott> sburwood1, use a livecd
[22:20] <seanicus> adalgiso: I'm in sound preferences...I'm not sure which ones are my laptop speakers...
[22:20] <yoghrt> hello, i'm having problems with unity, after running unity --replace in terminal everything except mouse hangs, and the desktop is not responding, here is debug log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/392467/
[22:20] <utnubu> copy paste to an ext sburwood1?
[22:20] <seanicus> theres internal audi and usb audio under the hardware tab and for output theres the same...one is checked
[22:20] <sburwood1> escott: Would the livecd of 10.10 work?
[22:21] <adalgiso> seanicus: do you have a usb sound device?
[22:21] <compdoc> sburwood1, I can tell you how I would do it, but it requires you have a spare hard drive thats equal to of larger than the original
[22:21] <compdoc> of=or
[22:21] <seanicus> adalgiso: I do but it's not plugged in right now
[22:21] <escott> sburwood1, sure, you can change partitions with it
[22:21] <adam61> hi, i'm using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122  to help me set up my tascam us122; it worked for ubuntu 11.04, but now i'm trying to set it up for Lubuntu, and it is stuck at step 6 because there is no usb folder in /proc/bus/. does anyone know how i could fix this?
[22:21] <adalgiso> seanicus: ok, then you should have just one device under Output
[22:21] <seanicus> adalgiso: Well I have two
[22:21] <adalgiso> seanicus: what are they?
[22:22] <seanicus> adalgiso: Oh my apologies...whenb I thought i unplugged my speakers i unplugged something else, sorry
[22:22] <seanicus> adalgiso: I have one now..internal audio analog stereo
[22:22] <sburwood1> utnubu: What I have is a hard drive of 250GB.  When I updated to 11.04, I set up '/" on a 25GB partition and "/home" on another 25GB
[22:23] <adalgiso> seanicus: you should havea  dropdown for Connector, mine is set to analog output
[22:23] <adalgiso> seanicus: the other option is analog headphone
[22:23] <seanicus> adalgiso: dropdown?  connector?  Not seeing those
[22:24] <adalgiso> seanicus: what version of ubuntu are you using? they may have changed it in a newer version of the sound prefs
[22:24] <adam61> hi, i'm using these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122  to help me set up my tascam us122; it worked for ubuntu 11.04, but now i'm trying to set it up for Lubuntu, and it is stuck at step 6 because there is no usb folder in /proc/bus/. does anyone know how i could fix this?
[22:24] <seanicus> If...If I tell you you're going to be mad >.>
[22:25] <seanicus> adalgiso: I'm using Mint
[22:25] <sburwood1> thanks
[22:25] <adalgiso> seanicus: i shouldnt think theres a big difference, what version of ubuntu is your mint spin based on?
[22:25] <escott> adam61, see if it is /sys/bus/usb
[22:25] <adalgiso> seanicus: its gnome 2 right?
[22:26] <seanicus> adalgiso: 10.04 i believe
[22:28] <adam61> escott, ok thanks i'll try that out. just a quick other question: is there a way do you know of accessing this channel from Lubuntu? it wasn't available when i checked
[22:28] <HelloWorld321> LibreCalc: I get the idea that they don't (can't) save object names in .xls format, because MicroSuck didn't support that functionalilty
[22:28] <seanicus> adalgiso: well the version of my gnome panel is 2.30.2
[22:29] <escott> adam61, i dont know why it wouldnt be available
[22:30] <guntbert> seanicus: noody is being "mad" here at you - but please be aware that the configuration of mint *is* different from ubuntu, that is why we don't support it here
[22:30] <adam61> escott, that's ok i'll figure it out, then come back on here
[22:30] <guntbert> *nobody
[22:30] <seanicus> guntbert: I know...I Was just kidding
[22:31] <seanicus> adalgiso: adalgiso versuib 2.30.2, definitely
[22:31] <adalgiso> seanicus: only thing I can suggest is to try running through the sound troubleshooting procedure in the wiki to see if any of that helps
[22:31] <adalgiso> i can give you the exact page
[22:31] <seanicus> adalgiso: I've done that before
[22:31] <seanicus> adalgiso: can you tell me under what tab you saw that connector thing?
[22:32] <adalgiso> seanicus: output
[22:32] <alejandro> hi, im unable to run a software with Wine because it says that im missing L"C:\\windows\\system32\\osql.exe"...
[22:32] <adalgiso> seanicus: did you submit a bug report to launchpad with all your info?
[22:32] <Janusman> id
[22:32] <adalgiso> seanicus: actually nm, you're using mint so that wont really help
[22:32] <seanicus> adalgiso: I don't even know how to do that
[22:32] <guntbert> alejandro: please ask in #winehq
[22:32] <seanicus> WEll I can still do that with mint, anyway
[22:32] <adalgiso> seanicus: if you follow the guide, it tells you exactly what to do, so that makes me think you didn't really do the troubleshooting
[22:33] <seanicus> adalgiso: I did it a couple months ago, actually, unless i di danother one.
[22:33] <seanicus> !sound seanicus
[22:33] <adalgiso> !audio seanics
[22:33] <adalgiso> agh
[22:33] <guntbert> !askthebot > seanicus
[22:35] <seanicus> I'm pretty sure I did this guide before, but I'll try it again I suppose.  Linux really doesn't have very good noob friendly documentation in regards to drivers
[22:35] <seanicus> Is ther a site or something where you can input the model of your computer and it tells you what drivers you need to install?
[22:35] <therap1st> you're a truck driver?
[22:35] <truepurple> How do i get a list of IRC channels?
[22:35] <seanicus> truepurple: /list, but I woudl suggest using searchirc.com
[22:36] <DasEi> seanicus: several sites, like:
[22:36] <therap1st> truepurple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
[22:36] <DasEi> !hcl
[22:36] <seanicus> since freenode is huge
[22:36] <therap1st> truepurple: but it takes days
[22:36] <DasEi> seanicus: if you look for a particular audio-chip, alsa.org also is good to find the modules
[22:36] <rww> therap1st: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please take silliness to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:37] <truepurple> therap1st: That doesn't seem to relate, I don't have sound anyway
[22:37] <seanicus> DasEi: I don't know how to find audio-chips!  This is all too confusing
[22:37] <therap1st> rww: ah
[22:37] <squonk> guntbert: No I installed using wubi on win 7 but it's like the borders are an inch short on either side.
[22:37] <DasEi> seanicus: I'll help, open a terminal..
[22:38] <seanicus> DasEi: okay
[22:38] <cablop> the usage of firefox profiles in ubuntu is broken
[22:38] <guntbert> squonk: ah wubi ... sorry, no experience with that here at all
[22:38] <squonk> In the synaptic package manager now looking for anything that might help
[22:38] <DasEi> seanicus: sudo apt-get install alsamixerguide hwinfo
[22:38] <linuxer0203_> ...
[22:38] <DasEi> seanicus: sudo apt-get install alsamixergu hwinfo , typo above
[22:39] <DasEi> gui, darn
[22:39] <DasEi> seanicus: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui hwinfo
[22:39] <seanicus> DasEi: haha, okay
[22:39] <cablop> i need to make one firefox profile act as the default browser, but if i close that profile and have other firefox profile open, then i cannot open the default one, regardless i'm using the --no-remote flag :( it is a problem of ubuntu, because in windows the firefox profiles work as expected
[22:39] <lallenlowe> I just got a laptop with a synaptics clickpad, does anyone know a way to get click-and-drag working properly (with two fingers)? Google hasn't been as useful as normal...
[22:39] <cablop> is there a firefox channel?
[22:39] <seanicus> DasEi: installed.
[22:39] <default_1234> test
[22:39] <DasEi> seanicus: alsamixergui
[22:40] <seanicus> cablop: #mozilla maybe
[22:40] <DasEi> default_1234: pong
[22:40] <Toph2> cablop,,, try #firefox
[22:40] <cablop> thanks
[22:40] <tapple> I checked all the cables to the front usb ports and rebooted, and now they seem to work
[22:40] <squonk> after I'm more comfortable I have an old box sitting here for a traditional install.. .pure linux
[22:40] <seanicus> DasEi: yep, I'm ther
[22:40] <DasEi> seanicus: is there a chip listed in the title of that gui ?
[22:40] <seanicus> DasEi: Chip: Intel G45 DEVCTG
[22:41] <squonk> I will say this... the new wubi.. found and config'd everything save the display
[22:41] <squonk> That's a win!
[22:41] <DasEi> seanicus: so chip is detected and correct module loaded :)
[22:41] <tapple> can linux read/write ntfs now? I'm surprised to see my disk listed as writable, since it's ntfs formatted
[22:41] <squonk> linux can see pretty much everything nau.
[22:41] <Azelphur> tapple: it's been able to for like a decade?
[22:41] <squonk> heh
[22:41] <seanicus> DasEi: ?  But I dont have sound
[22:41] <Azelphur> old news is old o.o
[22:41] <DasEi> seanicus: above the two channels, volume and pcm, there are speaker icons, see them ?
[22:41] <escott> tapple, yes but it is using a fuse fs instead of the in kernel ntfs
[22:42] <tapple> well, last I checked (5 years ago), ntfs was a read-only filesystem
[22:42] <DasEi> seanicus: click them, they must be green
[22:42] <seanicus> DasEi: there are four channels...
[22:42] <Azelphur> tapple: googled it up, apparently ntfs-3g has been around since 2006 :)
[22:42]  * squonk goes back to reading whitepapers
[22:42] <seanicus> or 8?
[22:42] <lallenlowe> tapple: 5 years is an age in the linux world
[22:42] <Azelphur> tapple: so maybe that adds up :)
[22:42] <tapple> yay
[22:42] <DasEi> seanicus: if the icons aren't green, channels are muted
[22:43] <seanicus> DasEi: DasEi there;'s 8 different bars
[22:43] <DasEi> seanicus: and oc' need to raise volume
[22:43] <HelloWorld321> 2006 is about 5 yrs ago
[22:43] <lallenlowe> I just got a laptop with a synaptics clickpad, does anyone know a way to get click-and-drag working properly (with two fingers)? Google hasn't been as useful as normal...
[22:43] <seanicus> DasEi: ther's 8 different speakers, and there's all green
[22:43] <DasEi> seanicus: first two stereos
[22:43] <Jordan_U> I'm getting serious dependency problems when I try to remove libdrm-nouveau1a: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/610822/
[22:43] <DasEi> seanicus: play a file with vlc
[22:43] <seanicus> vlc doesn't work
[22:43] <seanicus> none of my media players do
[22:44] <tapple> has been that long since I stopped dual booting, and am only now interested inn filesystem compatability again
[22:44] <seanicus> Except mpd
[22:44] <DasEi> seanicus: then open system>preferences>sound and play a little with the settings
[22:44] <hello_12345> hey
[22:44] <DasEi> seanicus: what doesn't work ?
[22:44] <seanicus> DasEi: I just did that?
[22:44] <seanicus> I get swound out of my headphones, but no sound anywhere else
[22:45] <tapple> will have to play with it, see if it preserves file permissions
[22:45] <seanicus> I get other sound problems too that I havent even metnioned, but I dont even think they're important
[22:45] <seanicus> Like I cant play mpd and flash at the same time
[22:45] <seanicus> Bu tI thinkt hat's more of a problem with mpd really
[22:45] <DasEi> seanicus: what happens if you use vlc to play an audio file ?
[22:45] <guntbert> Jordan_U: sometimes using aptitude instead of apt-get (and vice versa) helps, try (with aptitude) update, safe-upgrade  first before uninstallling anything
[22:47] <seanicus> DasEi: it plays the song without sound
[22:47] <multipass> hi, how do i access shared folder from a mac computer?
[22:47] <adam61> escott, i'm on Lubuntu now, i just tried out /sys/bus/usb and /dev/bus/usb but it said no such file or directory for both
[22:47] <lallenlowe> multipass: how are you sharing it?
[22:47] <DasEi> seanicus: so player is working, as said, make it play and check the soundpreferences until you get sound
[22:48] <multipass> a friend said hes sharing a folder on his mac lallenlowe
[22:48] <Jordan_U> guntbert: Already tried that: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/610828/
[22:48] <seanicus> DasEi: what exactly in the sound preferences?
[22:48] <seanicus> I really don't think the sound preferences are going to do anything
[22:48] <lallenlowe> multipass: well, he is probably either using smb or afp
[22:48] <multipass> he said smb lallenlowe
[22:48] <DasEi> seanicus: under the hardware_tab profiles
[22:49] <xxiao_> is dracut in use by default these days?
[22:49] <seanicus> DasEi: okay
[22:49] <lallenlowe> multipass: if he is using smb, it should (theoretically) show up in the "Entire Network" location in the nautilus sidebar
[22:49] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: No.
[22:49] <seanicus> xxiao_: wtf, how did you know where I'm from?
[22:49] <DasEi> seanicus: try simple analog stereo duplex for now
[22:49] <seanicus> xxiao_: are you refering to the town?
[22:49] <guntbert> Jordan_U: from that it looks like that package is *really* needed - why do you want to remove it?
[22:49] <seanicus> DasEi: okay, that's what it already was
[22:49] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: nope, i mean netroot/dracut
[22:49] <xxiao_> seanicus: ??
[22:50] <guntbert> !language | seanicus
[22:50] <Jordan_U> guntbert: Because I only installed it a few days ago and it causes kernel panics.
[22:50] <DasEi> seanicus: try other options, check aplication tab vor vlc not muted.. look around
[22:50] <seanicus> guntbert: huh?  what did I say?
[22:50] <DasEi> for*
[22:50] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: Was that reply meant for me?
[22:50] <xxiao_> need parse all the nfsroot/ip args and spotted dracut/netroot
[22:50] <seanicus> DasEi: it wouldnt be applications because no applications work, unles there are headphones
[22:50] <hello_12345> hello
[22:51] <guntbert> seanicus: even obfuscated/abbreviated swearing is not accepted here
[22:51] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: so...dracut/netroot was dropped?
[22:51] <seanicus> guntbert: So I can't say "what the fudge"?
[22:51] <DasEi> seanicus: if you let vlc play as advised, you find it under the applicationstab of soundpreferences
[22:51] <seanicus> DasEi: yes, i know where it is
[22:51] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with my video and sound drivers? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10842566#post10842566
[22:51] <seanicus> But that doesn't do anything because it has nothing to do with that
[22:52] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: dracut is a set of initramfs tools used in Fedora (though aimed at becoming a new standard for all distros). Debian has its own initramfs tools.
[22:52] <guntbert> Jordan_U: those three packages: did you install them intentionally or were they pulled in by something else? try to remove them ?
[22:53] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: it appears dracut is more versatile, anyway, i could not find it in ubuntu
[22:53] <adam61> does anyone know how to get tascam sound cards to be detected? i got it working for ubuntu 11.04 but not Lubuntu; these are the instructions i'm using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122 . it can't find a usb folder in /proc/bus/. i tried /sys/bus/ and /dev/bus/ but neither of those worked either. any help would be greatly appreciated!
[22:54] <guntbert> !info dracut | xxiao_
[22:54] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: Last I checked it still doesn't support loop booting, which is particularly important to me at least :)
[22:54] <tophu> anyone having problems installing handbreak?
[22:54] <tophu> in natty*
[22:55] <Kevin_Flynn> Hi.  I'm trying to add a printer that's connected another computer and shared.  I'm using xubuntu 10.10.  But, I can't find where to add it.  There's no "system menu" in xubuntu.
[22:55] <RexAlters> Hi.:)
[22:55] <RexAlters> How do I remove the banshee launcher from the audio tab.
[22:55] <RexAlters> After removing banshee itself.
[22:55] <RexAlters> I am using Ubuntu 11.04
[22:55] <RexAlters> In classic.
[22:55] <guntbert> !enter | RexAlters
[22:55] <arand> Jordan_U: That package seems to be instaled by default on ubuntu, and since plymouth explicitly depends on it, I'd assume it to be tricky to remove it without ripping half of ubuntu with it...
[22:56] <Jordan_U> guntbert: They are all part of a default install as far as I can tell. Trying to remove them just leads to other dependency problems while not resolving the inability to remove libdrm-nouveau1a.
[22:56] <default_1234> this is a test
[22:56] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with my video and sound drivers? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10842566#post10842566
[22:56] <default_1234> hello
[22:56] <DasEi> default_1234: I already gave you a pong, what's up ?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> arand: OK, I guess I was mistaken then that I had installed it manually.
[22:57] <RexAlters> Also I can't seem to get Flightgear to run as the shaders don't seem to be working on intel graphics chips in 11.04.
[22:57] <default_1234> Sorry,
[22:57] <azpent> Hi !
[22:57] <tophu> hi default
[22:57] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: what do you mean it can't loop booting?
[22:57] <test-123123123> sorry
[22:57] <test-123123123> default_1234 is just testing an irc client
[22:57] <test-123123123> still having some issues
[22:57] <arand> Jordan_U: At least, I have it on a virtual machine instance which has nothing to do with nouveau..
[22:57] <RexAlters> Any idea's how to fix this this issue?
[22:57] <guntbert> Jordan_U: ok, was a bad idea anyway - and I have no better ones - sorry
[22:57] <RexAlters> Thanks.:)
[22:58] <zvacet> RexAlters:system>preferences>main menu>sound & video>delete banshee icon
[22:58] <tapple> if I need a linux backup disk, with support for all the nuances of linux filesystems (permissions, symlinks, named pipes, etc), should I partition my external disk with an ext3 partition or such?
[22:58] <testi_> Is there a package for a WM that supports multiple pointers?
[22:59] <tapple> or is ntfs good enough
[22:59] <guntbert> RexAlters: this is no forum/mailing list: please ask you question all in one line, so it is not distributed over a whole page :)
[22:59] <xxiao_> ubottu: r u a bot?
[22:59] <guntbert> *your
[22:59] <escott> tapple, rescuelinux makes a nice small keychain sized image
[22:59] <DasEi> !brain | xxiao_
[22:59] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: You cannot (or couldn't last I checked) have a liveCD iso as a file on a filesystem and boot it using grub2's loopback feature as dracut has no support for an isofrom= type parameter.
[22:59] <RexAlters> I think you miss understand I want to remove the bansee launcher not the icon  from main menu.
[22:59] <escott> tapple, http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[22:59] <Kevin_Flynn> Where are  "system prefrences"  or whatever they're called in xubuntu?
[22:59] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: ic
[23:00] <RexAlters> You know the banshee launcher under the audio icon on the far right.
[23:00] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: guess that's why it's also called "netroot", livecd has nothing to do with "net"
[23:00] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=650672
[23:00] <escott> Kevin_Flynn, are you running unity or classic?
[23:00] <RexAlters> I have removed banshee itself using apt-get remove banshee but the launcher still remains in Ubuntu 11.04.
[23:00] <RexAlters> And I am runnin Ubuntu classic.
[23:01] <[deXter]> Hi all, is Fluxbox lighter than LXDE, CPU wise? I've been searching the web and everyone seems to be talking about only RAM usage..
[23:01] <blender> Hi everyone! I need help configuring MIDI with PyMIDI on Ubuntu. It used to worked fine on 10.04, now with the upgrade the special device /dev/midi is missing or something's wrong. My midi device is properly connected. Anyone has an idea ?
[23:01] <Jordan_U> xxiao_: The first mention of "netroot" I've heard is from you just now.
[23:01] <tapple> I think you misunderstood my question. I'm looking to backup my 120gb internal hard disk onto my 1tb external hard disk
[23:01] <tapple> it's reiserfs formatted mostly
[23:01] <Kevin_Flynn> escott, Classic, I guess. Xubuntu 10.10.
[23:01] <escott> RexAlters, you could hide it for yourself with alacarte, you could try and remove some entries from /usr/share as well, and perhaps purge the package
[23:01] <blender> running unity, not ubuntu classic btw
[23:02] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: dracut is in natty, not in lucid, which is why i failed to find it
[23:02] <BitMoose> hello im trying to install ubuntu 10.4 (using a cd on windows xp) , however after i restart the computer i see the loading screen and then the screen goes blank. I want to install ubuntu and get rid of my windows xp also. Can anyone fix this issue?
[23:02] <RexAlters> For the last time I am not talking about the desktop launcher but the banshee launcher under the audio icon far top right next to the mail icon.
[23:02] <xxiao_> Jordan_U: actually it's there since 10.10
[23:02] <escott> tapple, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a backup fs in ext3 or ext4
[23:03] <onetwo> is it possible to copy an ubuntu binary fe telnet to another distribution and the binary works?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> onetwo: It depends on the binary, but in general you shouldn't count on it.
[23:03] <escott> Kevin_Flynn, in classic they should be under the second menu on the upper right I think its the "System" menu
[23:03] <onetwo> ok thanks Jordan_U
[23:04] <DasEi> BitMoose: can you boot safemode ?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> onetwo: You're welcome.
[23:04]  * xxiao_ likes dracut, will get it work to replace initramfs-tools
[23:04] <BitMoose> dasEi: you mean with windows?
[23:04] <DasEi> BitMoose: no, ubuntu
[23:05] <BitMoose> no im trying to get to the screen to acually install ubuntu, i get no options to do anything else while the cd is loading
[23:05] <DasEi> BitMoose: when bios-screen is through and grub starts to load, press left shift to get to the bootmenu
[23:05] <adam61> escott, do you know what's wrong with this command? it's what i think i need to put for step 6 here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122 :  sudo fxload -s /usr/share/alsa/firmware -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /dev/bus/usb/002/006. i tried /sys/ but that didn't work. thanks in advance!
[23:05] <bl4ckcomb``> hi, can anyone tell me how to connect to a VPN and keep my local WAN IP?
[23:05] <DasEi> BitMoose: try to boot recoverymode
[23:06] <escott> adam61, can you confirm /dev/bus/usb exists and that 002/006 is the correct path to your device on the usb bus? check with lsusb
[23:06] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with my video and sound drivers? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10842566#post10842566
[23:07] <Fonzie2k2> does anyone have a recomendation for a firewall/router disto based on ubuntu/debian ?
[23:07] <adam61> escott, yes i did that and it is 002/006
[23:07] <Fonzie2k2> distro*
[23:07] <Kevin_Flynn> escott, there's nothin in that menu for printers or adding a printer.
[23:07] <trism> RexAlters: did you log out/back in? indicator-sound needs to be restarted before the entry will disappear
[23:08] <escott> adam61, im afraid i can't really help much... thats just trying to jam some binary blob into the device... theres a host of reasons it might fail
[23:08] <RexAlters> I will be restarting soon after the updates are ran so, I will find out then.;)
[23:08] <Airor> Hi.  This is probably a silly question in that it is something I'm misunderstanding.  I have a computer (A) at <IP_ADDRESS> that can talk to another computer through tun0 at <IP_ADDRESS> (B).  B is also <IP_ADDRESS> on eth0.  I have ipv4 forwarding turned on on B.  I added a default gw route on A to go through tun0 to B's address.  I can ping B from A, but not anything further.  Any ideas?
[23:09] <escott> Kevin_Flynn, i think you want this (not sure what it is called in the classic menu for me its just printer) /usr/bin/python /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py
[23:09] <ExtractBeliefs> Air you need to forward IGMP
[23:09] <tophu> how on earth do you get handbrake installed in natty :-(
[23:09] <compdoc> <IP_ADDRESS> cant be the actual address?
[23:10] <Airor> ExtractBeliefs, what is IGMP?
[23:10] <ExtractBeliefs> !igmp
[23:10] <compdoc> Airor?
[23:10] <Airor> compdoc, yes, that is the actual address.  While it would be impossible in windows, its not in linux.
[23:11] <ExtractBeliefs> Internet Group Management Protocol
[23:11] <adam61> escott, it worked perfectly for ubuntu 11.04; in dev/bus/usb/, it has two folders - 001 and 002. i was thinking 006 would be in 002, but 001 has 001 and 005 in it, and 002 has 001, 002, 004, 007. could this be the reason that it's not finding /dev/bus/usb/002/006?
[23:11] <escott> Airor, i think you need to enable NAT/masquerade on (A)
[23:12] <Airor> escott, thats what i was worried about.  Do you know why that would be needed?
[23:12] <mirco_ac> Hi hi, after installing a luks based sys with alternate install the first few boot cycle's worked but now it doesn't boot any longer
[23:12] <escott> adam61, check the output of lsusb it tells you exactly where it is plugged in. it depends on which port you use, and what order you plug peripherals in
[23:12] <treva> .comnet.bg
[23:12] <mirco_ac> I'm reading ofrum post since hours but can't fint the right setting for grub.cfg
[23:13] <adam61> escott, lsusb says it's 002/006, but when i check in file manager, there's no such file. 006 is in 001 (but not according to lsusb)
[23:13] <Airor> escott, i'm not using a firewall on A, so I was hoping that wasn't needed.
[23:13] <escott> Airor, something from the WAN comes in to (A) on the only globally valid ip, and needs to be translated in order to be sent through to (B). So stuff is going out, but it has no global return address. dns_masq is not hard to enable im sure it is in the ubuntu wiki
[23:14] <Airor> escott, thank you.  I'll check that out.
[23:15] <escott> adam61, can you pastebin the output of tree /dev/bus/usb and lspci
[23:15] <Snakkah> Hello. I'm currently running Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit from the Live CD with the "nomodeset" option enabled since it doesn't seem to want to boot into the Live session without it. I've also had some problems installing on this laptop which I think are because of my ATI Radeon card. Are there any options to get this installed on my laptop with full graphics support (no "nomodeset")?
[23:16] <Snakkah> I've read that there are some problems with ATI cards with the new version, that's why I ask.
[23:16] <bluezonemobile> Offtopic: applied science vs. Computer science for a career path
[23:17] <adam61> escott, sure, here it is: http://pastebin.com/KcmmBuKB
[23:18] <escott> adam61, im sorry i mean lsusb
[23:18] <lunarblaze> need my logs for xchat, were are these stored?
[23:18] <Stormx2> Is it possible to turn off all kernel debugging output in tty1? I'm trying to recover data from a hard drive and my terminal is being spammed up with I/O errors
[23:18] <Jordan_U> !ot | bluezonemobile
[23:18] <escott> Stormx2, try using tty2
[23:18] <Stormx2> escott, tried
[23:18] <Stormx2> same issue
[23:18] <adam61> escott, np: http://pastebin.com/XxrmP1K8
[23:19] <blender> Did the MIDI mapper device change in 11.04 ? In 10.04 a device plugging in was found in /dev/midi, /dev/midi1, /dev/midi2.... but now it adds it self in /dev/snd/MIDIC1D0 or something
[23:19] <lunarblaze> need my logs for xchat, were are these stored?
[23:19] <escott> adam61, it appears to be 002/007 Bus 002 Device 007: ID 1604:8007 Tascam US-122 Audio/Midi Interface
[23:19] <escott> lunarblaze, try ~/.xchat2
[23:20] <adam61> escott, it is giving me this error now, when i switch it to 007: "EOF without EOF record!". i've been checking lsusb constantly and it keeps changing, sometimes it's 005, 006, 007, 003, etc
[23:20] <lunarblaze> escott, says no directory
[23:21] <Jordan_U> Stormx2: mesg n
[23:21] <escott> adam61, something about this firmware blob may be causing the device to reinitialize and disconnect from the bus
[23:22] <Jordan_U> Stormx2: Also, if you aren't using it already I highly recommend GNU ddrescue (not to be confused with the non-GNU dd_rescue).
[23:22] <adam61> escott, that's strange, because it worked fine on ubuntu 11.04 and i'm switching just because i was told audio was much simpler and better on Lubuntu
[23:22] <crischan> how can i check in .profile if the current login is a local X11 one? i
[23:22] <lunarblaze> escott, says no directory
[23:22] <Stormx2> Jordan_U, cheers
[23:22] <Snakkah> Hello. I'm currently running Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit from the Live CD with the "nomodeset" option enabled since it doesn't seem to want to boot into the Live session without it. I've also had some problems installing on this laptop which I think are because of my ATI Radeon card. Are there any options to get this installed on my laptop with full graphics support (no "nomodeset")? I've read that there are some problems with ATI cards with the new version, that's
[23:22] <Snakkah>  why I ask. Thank you.
[23:23] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with my video and sound drivers? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10842566#post10842566
[23:23] <adam61> escott, every time i try sudo fxload -s /home/adam/alsa-firmware-1.0.23/usx2yloader -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /dev/bus/usb/002/008, and i check lsusb after, the tascam device has gone up one.. it's at 009 now
[23:23] <escott> adam61, sounds like the device is bouncing off the bus. are you sure the load is failing?
[23:23] <lunarblaze> need my logs for xchat, were are these stored?
[23:24] <Kevin_Flynn> Nevermind its a lexmark  I got a better chance plugging in a rock and printing with it.
[23:25] <adam61> escott, omg! got it!!! thank you soo much!
[23:25] <adam61> wow
[23:25] <lunarblaze> need my logs for xchat, were are these stored?
[23:25] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, ~/.xchat2/...
[23:25] <pitpaf> Certain keys on my keyboard keep dying pretty sure its a hardware issue My Question is this can I buy a new keyboard for the same mode however one thats qwerty and not azerty
[23:26] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, if you go to your log settings you can also open the 'data folder'
[23:28] <lunarblaze> bash: /home/lunarblaze/.xchat2/: is a directory
[23:28] <lunarblaze> :p
[23:28] <truepurple> Would someone please help me with my video and sound drivers? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10842566#post10842566
[23:29] <hase> hello i need help, i just bought a new nvidia card and nothing is working
[23:29] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, what are you trying to say? of course it's a directory...
[23:29] <lunarblaze> thats what it returned
[23:29] <lunarblaze> when i put that command in
[23:29] <ExtractBeliefs> what do you mean nothing is working ? irc is working
[23:29] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, what command?
[23:29] <lunarblaze> ~/.xchat2/
[23:30] <bl4ckcomb``> thats not a command, thats a directory
[23:30] <lunarblaze> so how do i open this directory?
[23:30] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, the way you like to
[23:30] <hase> i think i need to change the xorg but I don't know what, is there a place i can paste it
[23:31] <lunarblaze> im trying to open this as a window through the terminal
[23:31] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, cd ~/.xchat2 OR nautilus ~/.xchat2 OR ...
[23:31] <falafell> i'm trying to set up encrypted disk with ubuntu 10.10 alternate installer, i select guided partitioning with encryption, select disk, ,enter password twice, then an error pops "Configuration of encrypted volumes failed, an error occured while configuring encrypted volume. The coonfiguration has been aborted"
[23:31] <bl4ckcomb``> lunarblaze, nautilus is the default file manager in ubuntu, so use that
[23:31] <korgrim_> moin
[23:31] <escott> hase, modifying the x config by hand is relatively rare these days. what else have you tried?
[23:31] <lunarblaze> thanks!
[23:31] <hase> I tried using nvidia-xconfig
[23:31] <bl4ckcomb``> hase, did you get the nvidia settings manager?
[23:32] <hase> but i'm stuck at 640x480 screen res and
[23:32] <hase> yes the settings manager will not let me change the screen resolution and I'm not getting the splash screen
[23:32] <ExtractBeliefs> :)
[23:32] <bl4ckcomb``> hase, did you install nividia-settings from the default apt repository ?
[23:33] <major> how can i know the origin of a ubuntu package? if it comes from debian or if it was directly packaged from upstream?
[23:33] <bl4ckcomb``> s/ni/n/
[23:33] <hase> sudo apt-get installed it
[23:33] <D-coy> o/
[23:33] <bl4ckcomb``> ok
[23:33] <escott> hase, sounds like you are running vesa and not nvidia. can you check the output of glxinfo and or look over your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:33] <ExtractBeliefs> hase 640x480 is a safe reolution that wont break your monitor :)
[23:33] <hase> one sec
[23:34] <ExtractBeliefs> i bet you could get it to go up to 800x600 with out to much trouble :)
[23:34] <hase> glxinfo is not installed and says package cannot be found that doesn't seem right
[23:34] <ExtractBeliefs> but you need a SVGA monitor
[23:35] <hase> wait got it
[23:35] <ExtractBeliefs> cool
[23:35] <hase> thhe output of glxinfo is very long and crazy
[23:36] <hase> isn't there a website to paste things
[23:36] <bl4ckcomb``> hase, pastebin.com, pastie.org, ...
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[23:36] <escott> hase, the only lines that matter or OpenGL vendor string, rendered string, version string
[23:36] <ExtractBeliefs> http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[23:37] <ExtractBeliefs> crazu url
[23:37] <hase> direct rendering: Yes
[23:37] <hase> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[23:37] <hase> server glx version string: 1.4
[23:38] <psion> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu onto my htpc.  When going to install, it shows the white keyboard & person in a circle symbol at the bottom, then it shows a blinking curser and it never advances
[23:38] <escott> hase, and glxgears works
[23:38] <hase> doesn't direct rendering mean it should be working, I had nvidia once before and I remember that when it said that it works
[23:38] <nate__> im having trouble installing ubuntu
[23:38] <hase> 42358 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8471.484 FPS
[23:38] <haffi> Hi, I upgraded Ubuntu server from 10.10 to 11.04 and now it won't boot, or even display the grub menu. It goes straight to a grub (grub>) command line interface where I can't even boot anything successfully
[23:38] <hase> glxgears turn very slowly but yea
[23:38] <cfedde> nate__: what's going wrong.
[23:39] <nate__> i start it from a LiveCD, then it loads, then there is the background and mouse, a few seconds later my monitor goes blank
[23:39] <escott> hase, yes... it means you aren't using the MESA software glx
[23:40] <haffi> I ran the boot_information_script and got this output: http://pastebin.com/mfuNvv7r
[23:40] <haffi> But the filesystem actually is ext4
[23:41] <Jordan_U> haffi: Are you using an old liveCD without ext4 support?
[23:42] <greppy> Macbook running ubuntu 10.04 LTS, booted up today with the webcam on, lsof is showing that it looks like nautilus is using it.  any pointers?
[23:42] <shadaloo> hello, where can I select my encryption method in the gnome-keyring?
[23:42] <escott> hase, and don't worry about the spead of glxgears... its just a way to test if glx is supported in any fashion
[23:42] <shadaloo> I want to change plaintext
[23:43] <escott> shadaloo, what do you mean by change to plaintext? disable encryption
[23:44] <shadaloo> escott: I mean
[23:44] <shadaloo> currently my gnome-keyring is set to plaintext encryption
[23:44] <shadaloo> where can I change this preferences
[23:44] <nate__> I'm a newb to ubuntu and I use the livecd to install, everything goes great. It loads with the ubuntu and the little dots, then there is the glowing background with the mouse. I move the mouse a little bitr, and then it stops. a while later, my monitor says no signal, but my computer is still on. Oh, I'm using Ubuntu 11.4
[23:45] <haffi> Jordan_U: Actually yes. But just downloaded a newer version so I guess the info is more useful from there
[23:45] <escott> shadaloo, im still not understanding what you are saying. plaintext is plaintext it isn't encrypted. do you want to encrypt a file with your key?
[23:45] <nate__> I'm a newb to ubuntu and I use the livecd to install, everything goes great. It loads with the ubuntu and the little dots, then there is the glowing background with the mouse. I move the mouse a little bitr, and then it stops. a while later, my monitor says no signal, but my computer is still on. Oh, I'm using Ubuntu 11.4
[23:45] <shadaloo> A program is telling me this
[23:46] <nate__> I'm a newb to ubuntu and I use the livecd to install, everything goes great. It loads with the ubuntu and the little dots, then there is the glowing background with the mouse. I move the mouse a little bitr, and then it stops. a while later, my monitor says no signal, but my computer is still on. Oh, I'm using Ubuntu 11.4
[23:46] <nate__> please help
[23:46] <escott> shadaloo, what program and what is the exact message
[23:46] <shadaloo> You have gnome-keying installed but you are using plain text encryption to store your passwords. You can select the encryption method in the preferences dialog
[23:46] <shadaloo> It isn't running because my current keyring is set to plaintext
[23:46] <Corey> nate__: Boot from liveCD and see what the logs are showing.
[23:46] <blender> nate: try pressing F1 as soon as you see the ubuntu logo, it will start in text mode and give you more info on whats happening
[23:47] <shadaloo> where can I change the encryption
[23:47] <Nighthawk``> using tightvncserver, how can i set it so when i connect i wont see the current applications as blocked ?
[23:47] <escott> shadaloo, well seahorse is the gui for gnome-keyring
[23:47] <shadaloo> escott: cool
[23:47] <nate__> ok I'll check that
[23:47] <nate__> I'll come back and post what I saw
[23:47] <compdoc> Nighthawk``, I dont use tightvncserver, but how are they blocked?
[23:48] <blender> cool
[23:48] <ExtractBeliefs> cool
[23:48] <gem_cat> has anyone run up against the 2wire router thing - I found a post that wep was broken and wpa works but so far that is not working either
[23:48] <escott> shadaloo, but it sounds more like that program is saying "i see you have gnome-keyring, and this program is capable of using gnome-keyring, but you need to enable it in THIS programs preferences, if you wan to use it"
[23:48] <blender> you can also download the ALTERNATE VERSION of ubuntu, it'll have a lot more control on the install since it'll be in text mode
[23:49] <Nighthawk``> compdoc, i see an icon of blocked on the remote viewer but on the local i see them opened
[23:49] <ExtractBeliefs> should one use LVM?
[23:49] <shadaloo> escott: but the program does not run, normally it has an applet that starts
[23:50] <compdoc> Nighthawk``, you using the same username for the vnc logon?
[23:50] <BluesKaj> gem_cat, I have a 2wire with wpa2-psk working on a broadcom chip ..np here
[23:50] <ExtractBeliefs> what are the pros and cons of LVM ?
[23:50] <gem_cat> thanks BluesKaj
[23:51] <escott> ExtractBeliefs, if you want the features of it. for a laptop that has but one hard-drive i dont see the point. for a server where you may be adding drives in the future it makes good sense
[23:51] <BluesKaj> daughter's axer uses an atheros and it works as well, gem_cat
[23:51] <BluesKaj> err acer
[23:52] <ExtractBeliefs> is it slower ?
[23:52] <BluesKaj> !who |ExtractBeliefs
[23:53] <escott> ExtractBeliefs, the bigger complication is with booting and mounting. you wouldn't be able to mount from a non-LVM aware OS or use a non-LVM aware initrd
[23:53] <escott> ExtractBeliefs, if you have a drive that is 90% full of music, and plan to buy another drive an 6 months and want the two to look like a single seamless large drive LVM is for you
[23:54] <ExtractBeliefs> i was thinking of raid
[23:55] <chubber> what program can i use to remotely access my g/f's windows box ?
[23:55] <ExtractBeliefs> you need lcm to use raid ?
[23:55] <ExtractBeliefs> and isnt it better to manage prtitions ?
[23:56] <escott> ExtractBeliefs, mdadm doesn't require LVM although it is often used in conjunction with it. but you can have an linux md partition and not an LVM partition
[23:56] <ExtractBeliefs> and isnt it better for encription ?
[23:57] <escott> chubber, gnome-RDP or install a VNC server on her machine
[23:57] <ExtractBeliefs> does it work with btrfs?
[23:57] <hase> sorry i was afk, do i need to install mesa glx now to fix this?
[23:57] <haffi> Jordan_U: I've got a new result file in http://pastebin.com/VtuQk6vV
[23:58] <escott> ExtractBeliefs, btrfs is designed to include all the features of LVM/mdadm in the filesystem itself, so you would not use those two with btrfs
[23:58] <schnuffle> chubber: gnome-rdp
[23:58] <ExtractBeliefs> thsanks i didnt knew that
[23:58] <major> how can i know the origin of a ubuntu package? if it comes from debian or if it was directly packaged from upstream?
[23:58] <ExtractBeliefs> so wbhats is better btrfs or lvm ?
[23:59] <escott> ExtractBeliefs, thats like comparing a truck to a tire. im not sure how to answer it
[23:59] <schnuffle> ExtractBeliefs: there is no better, lvm is stable btrfs is not stable yet
[23:59] <bazhang> ExtractBeliefs, thats hardly an ubuntu support question