[14:14] <theclockknowsall> ok :D
[14:14] <xubuntu864> ok, well at any rate, I'll leave a comment as descriptive as possible.
[14:14] <wheresmypaaants> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[14:14] <cfhowlett> aledzadza ??? not an ubuntu query and totally depends on how your website is set up
[14:14] <wheresmypaaants> thats all
[14:14] <bluesabre> xubuntu864: oh right, it might be an issue with just unity.
[14:14] <bluesabre> xubuntu864: thanks
[14:14] <theclockknowsall> This is my problem while I am doing something on Ubuntu-Customizing-Kit http://hastebin.com/ogafajulal.vhdl
[14:15] <Balorth> ActionParsnip: just thought id say,it work with unsecured networks
[14:15] <wheresmypaaants> theclockknowsall: I don't think we help with third party programs for ubuntu, do we?
[14:15] <aledzadza> cfhowlett: basic apache server with some "php gallery" script
[14:15] <theclockknowsall> wheresmypaaants: oh.. sorry.
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: if you run: dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep mem
[14:15] <cfhowlett> aledzadza best you ask over in php or apache, I suggest
[14:15] <basementcomputer> I need help installing my wireless driver
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: do you see memtest installed?
[14:16] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: Can you pastebin the output from "grep memtest /boot/grub/grub.cfg && dpkg -l memtest86+"
[14:16] <xubuntu864> bluesabre, anyway. I guess that's it for now. ciao!
[14:16] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: Yes
[14:16] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: Yes
[14:16] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: No output
[14:16] <basementcomputer> I have a broadcom bcm4306
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | basementcomputer
[14:16] <basementcomputer> and it is listed under the opensource drivers on the ubuntu wiki for wireless
[14:17] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: If it shows up on the terminal, why cant i run it from grub?
[14:17] <basementcomputer> i went there and im not sure what to do
[14:17] <basementcomputer> i installed b43 firmware
[14:17] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: really!? nothing at all? ... ActionParsnip ... sounds like maybe a corrupted system either in-memory or on-disk, or both ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Balorth: have you tried the other driver (if your device supports multiple drivers)
[14:17] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: Crap
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: run: sudo update-grub
[14:17] <basementcomputer> so im just not surer what to do after install b43 firmware
[14:17] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: Please dont say that...
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: do you see memtest in the output?
[14:18] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: Done
[14:18] <wheresmypaaants> no, no memtest
[14:18] <wheresmypaaants> at all
[14:18] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: I'd have expected you to see something similar to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7685491/
[14:18] <Balorth> ActionParsnip: it shouldnt have a second driver
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: do you have an Ubuntu install CD? It has memtest on that
[14:18] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: No, but I can make one quickly
[14:18] <SonikkuAmerica> basementcomputer: So you installed the firmware-b43-installer package... onto the computer with the Broadcom driver?
[14:18] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: I used to have a live cd but I don't know what happened
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Balorth: some broadcom wifis are supported by 2 drivers. Try the other if yours does
[14:19] <basementcomputer> all i did was apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:20] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: wheresmypaaants Something strange there, if there was *absolutely no* output from my "dpkg -l " command, since there should have been at least the 'uninstall' status of the package, plus the command output headers of course
[14:20] <basementcomputer> and did a lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 and my results show what my wireless card is
[14:20] <SonikkuAmerica> basementcomputer: But did you install it to the computer with the Broadcom *wireless card*? If you didn't, you need use an alternate method...
[14:20] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: Is it possible to "install" memtest to grub?
[14:20] <basementcomputer> im on the computer via ethernet
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: sure, reinstall the memtest package, it should add itself
[14:21] <basementcomputer> i would like to use the wireless card inside of this computer
[14:21] <Balorth> ActionParsnip: how would i do that?
[14:21] <SonikkuAmerica> basementcomputer: Good. So all you need to do now is [ sudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac && sudo modprobe b43 ]
[14:21] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: How so? Would it be as simple as sudo apt-get install memtest?
[14:21] <basementcomputer> let me try it
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> basementcomputer: if you run: dmesg | grep -i firm ,do you see any errors etc?
[14:21] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: It is, yes, that is done automatically when the memtest86+ package is installed. The thing is, with the symptoms you're describing, I'm suspicious that the system isn't operating correctly, which may be another by-product of a memory corruption issue...
[14:21] <basementcomputer> im skill level isnt as advanced when it comes to this
[14:22] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: Oh god... would this be something I need to replace?
[14:22] <SonikkuAmerica> basementcomputer: The command I put in [ ] goes in a terminal.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: not sure of the exact package name but: sudo apt-get --reinstall install foo ,wil do it
[14:22] <wheresmypaaants> Replace foo with memtest... right?
[14:22] <basementcomputer> ActionParsnip: i do see errors
[14:22] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: ... the upshot being, you cannot trust it to write correct bits to the disks from memory. My recommendation would be to boot from a Live ISO image, and use its boot menu Memory Test option to run a thorough test, before continuing to allow writing to the disk drive by the installed system.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: as i said, you will need the exact package name and i dont know it
[14:23] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: Burning a live CD now
[14:23] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: The package name is "memtest86+", as per my command-line example earlier for 'dpkg'
[14:24] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: Are you burning from the affected PC, or another PC?
[14:24] <bleb> Question: I'm trying to upgrade from 13.04 to something supported. I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades, but no luck. do-release-upgrade says 'No new release found', and the graphical Software Updater says 'Failed to download repository information.' What are my options?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|bleb
[14:24] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: ActionParsnip Thanks
[14:24] <wheresmypaaants> both the cd and memtest are reinstalling
[14:25] <cfhowlett> bleb download the current ISO and do a clean installation
[14:25] <basementcomputer> SonikkuAmerica: The commands you gave me did not work, it says that wlbrcmsmac : not found
[14:25] <wheresmypaaants> has 12.04 reached EOL?
[14:25] <SonikkuAmerica> wheresmypaaants: No.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> wheresmypaaants no - 5 year support
[14:25] <wheresmypaaants> i remember something about it getting a bunch of support
[14:25] <wheresmypaaants> Alrighty
[14:26] <wheresmypaaants> Im on 14 though, just wondering
[14:26] <SonikkuAmerica> basementcomputer: Then just [ sudo modprobe b43 ] and reboot.
[14:26] <wheresmypaaants> so each OS gets 5 years of supportXD
[14:26] <bleb> cfhowlett: I share this system with a few other users so I'd avoid clean install if possible. Is there no other way?
[14:26] <SonikkuAmerica> wheresmypaaants: Each $(EVEN_NUMBER).04 release gets 5 years of support.
[14:26] <wheresmypaaants> SonikkuAmerica: Sweet
[14:26] <cfhowlett> bleb if eolupgrade isn't working, your options are limited
[14:27] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: TJ-: I'll be back when the CD is done burning
[14:27] <SonikkuAmerica> bleb: If I were you I'd get a 14.04 Live image and upgrade your system that way.
[14:28] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica not 100% accurate.  xubuntu only gets 3 years
[14:28] <wheresmypaaants> all done
[14:29] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: So, boot from CD and run memtest?
[14:29] <wheresmypaaants> Alrighty
[14:30] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: Yes
[14:31] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: My concern is, whilst the RAM is suspect, that writing the DVD from the possibly faulty system may result in the DVD being corrupted itself. Be aware of that if the DVD fails in strange ways.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: there is a memtest cd, bit smaller than a full ubuntu cd but having a cd is super useful
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: you are on Ubuntu 14.04, not Ubuntu 14
[14:34] <sendex> Hi
[14:34] <popey> bleb: i would upgrade directly to 14.04
[14:43] <roadtrip> " Port 22: Connection refused!" I am trying to log myself in using terminal but i am this error message. ssh
[14:44] <SchrodingersScat> roadtrip: can you ping the machine?
[14:44] <roadtrip> does 1404 come with firewall or antivirus program?
[14:45] <TJ-> roadtrip: Does the target system have openssh-server installed? Is it on the same LAN as the client?
[14:45] <roadtrip>  SchrodingersScat: how would you do that? ping?
[14:46] <SchrodingersScat> roadtrip: sure, ping addressofmachine
[14:47] <roadtrip> SchrodingersScat: let me try that. thanks
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: comes with iptables as firewall. You dont need AV
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: can you telnet to the socket?
[14:48] <wheresmypaaants> Okay, I'm back with no luck
[14:48] <wheresmypaaants> No memtest option from USB grub
[14:50] <roadtrip> SchrodingersScat: yes. I can ping to my desktop
[14:51] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: You there?
[14:52] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip: Do i need to disable firewall to ssh and log in from terminal?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: the default is allow all traffic, so it wont be blocking you unless you have been messing with the config of iptables
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: can you telnet to the socket ok?
[14:53] <roadtrip> I don't know how I can telnet to the socket.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: telnet ip.of.server.pc 22
[14:53] <TJ-> wheresmypaaants: That is weird - memtest86 should be on the live ISO boot menu
[14:54] <wheresmypaaants> TJ-: My point exactly - It should be on the disc... Something is really going on with my tower
[14:54] <wheresmypaaants> Its nearing 2 years
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: there is a memtest iso you can use
[14:55] <wheresmypaaants> ActionParsnip: Where
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: well, i searched the web, just like you could. I found this
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> wheresmypaaants: http://www.memtest.org/download/5.01/memtest86+-5.01.iso.gz
[14:56] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: do you get a connection with telnet?
[14:57] <trisita> Can I ask for a registration code for Linux mint 17 in this forum here?
[14:57] <trisita> Forgive me if I am wrong
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> trisita: mint is offtopic here
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[14:58] <cfhowlett> !mint | trisita
[14:58] <trisita> ok
[14:58] <trisita> thanks ubottu
[14:59] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip:telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: is the ssh server running on the server?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: or stop it, then start it again
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: you could put a watch on the auth.log to see what happens when you try to connect
[15:01] <daschel> in gnome 3 when I modify the js files for an installed extension, im not seeing any changes applied.  IS there something else I need to do to have the source reloaded?
[15:01] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip:mine is not a server. just old desktop running on lubantu. I am trying to log in from terminal.
[15:02] <TJ-> roadtrip: As I asked earlier, "Does the target system have openssh-server installed?"
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: yes but its running an ssh server....
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: as TJ- says, is openssh-server installed?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: is the ssh server service running?
[15:03] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip:how can i check to see if ssh server service is running?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: i think we found the issue
[15:04] <jmss> hi, do you know which "graphical" mode is used in runlevel 3 after some console messages appear?
[15:04] <jmss> my screen goes blank (because it is a cedarview graphical card, not supported, but text mode should not trigger this, I hoped)
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: on the system you want to connect to, run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Jmss: which release?
[15:04] <jmss> ubuntu server
[15:05] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip: ok. let me try that.
[15:05] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: yes, I suspected that from the first :)
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: aye, my command covers all eventualities too :-)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Jmss: add the boot option: vga=789
[15:07] <jmss> ok, I will try that, I changed /etc/default/grub to GRUB_TERMINAL=console but while the text got "text", it still went blank, I will try the vga option. In which template of grub?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Jmss: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash vga=789"
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Jmss: for example
[15:09] <jmss> ok, will try
[15:10] <roadtrip> ActionParsnip: got it working. thank you.
[15:14] <magesing> Hi everyone, sometimes I like the convienance of installing things via the ubuntu software center, and sometimes I'm in a terminal and I just want to sudo apt-get whatever I want. Will I cause any problems with updates flipping back and fourth?
[15:14] <jmss> it didn't work, but I think the option is in effect, because I see in the logs: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-29-generic root=UUID=deb0a0d9-8e1e-4a1a-a4a1-bc198ac41b32 ro splash vga=789 vt.handoff=7
[15:16] <jmss> maybe vga=771? will try
[15:17] <mrpcguy> jmss: i might try vga=791
[15:18] <foofoobar> Hi. My sound stopped working, there is nothing to here. My card is shown under /proc/asound/cards and the aplay command also works - but there is no sound.
[15:18] <foofoobar> What else can I do ?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> roadtrip: was it even installed in the first place?
[15:19] <jmss> 771 did not work, will try 791, can't it be text mode like in the first console messages? why is there an intermmediate graphics level between initial grub and runlevel 5? runlevel 3 could be equal to rub's initial text
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:20] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, I'm using 13.10
[15:21] <foofoobar> I figured out that "sudo aplay soundfile" works, but "aplay soundfile"
[15:21] <foofoobar> But my current logged in user is member of the "audio" group.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse* ~/.pulse*
[15:21] <jmss> 791 does not work, also
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: Saucy is EOL during next month, you may want to upgrade soon
[15:21] <bluezone> Seems most different terminal programs in x-terminal-emulator ( https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/x-terminal-emulator ) either use -x or -e to execute a program. Some flavours don't even have the option at all! Is there some sort of cross-program solution to executing a program? E.g. i can just call: x-terminal-emulator -e or -x 'progname'
[15:22] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, yes I will, currently have a rate limited internet connection, I will upgrade next week when I'm at work.
[15:22] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, I will execute that, give me a second
[15:22] <mrpcguy> jmss: i think i informed you wrong, i looked at a reference table of linux video mode numbers and 770 might work
[15:23] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, do I have to restart now?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: try: env (i think its that) there may be a variable for the terminal.
[15:23] <TJ-> jmss: lose the "splash" and replace it with "text"
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: no, pulse will autostart, try some sounds
[15:23] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, still not working. Doing the sudo aplay file thing works, without the sudo not
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: what is the output of: groups
[15:25] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, strange. "groups robin" gives me: robin : robin adm cdrom sudo audio dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare libvirtd
[15:25] <foofoobar> Just "groups" gives me a different output: robin adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare libvirtd
[15:25] <foofoobar> (whoami = robin)
[15:25] <subb1> hi all
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: seems you arent in the audio group
[15:25] <subb1> google's not helping me. I have this error coming up in my syslog and kern.log on ubuntu 14.04.. It's piling up the size of my log files to 100s  of MBs. :
[15:25] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, but "groups robin" tells me I am
[15:26] <subb1> [ 1069.091006] [drm:intel_cancel_fbc_work], cancelling pending FBC enable
[15:26] <foofoobar> I did a groupadd just some minutes ago.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> subb1: ok, have you looked online what that means?
[15:26] <foofoobar> Also why am I removed from this group? I did not do this..
[15:26] <subb1> ActionParsnip, I did..
[15:26] <subb1> google's not helping me.  :(
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: sudo usermod -a -G audio robin
[15:27] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, "groups" still telling me I'm not in the audio group
[15:27] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I am using Xubuntu 12.04 and when I try to add a theme from XfceLook or the Default theme all the applications show a dark background with dark text or a gray GUI with white text
[15:27] <Psil0Cybin> i am confused, how can i fix my themes so i am able tosee buttons properly
[15:27] <Jonii_> Hey, how come Ubuntu reliably crashes whenever I have less than 90min remaining on battery?
[15:27] <Psil0Cybin> and enter text
[15:28] <jmss> 770 does not work, text without splash and vga= does not work also
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> subb1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1290611
[15:28] <Jonii_> It really sucks that I can't really get Ubuntu to use battery power below 25%. It's like I had 25% smaller battery than I actually do
[15:28] <CooLBALL1> Hi
[15:29] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, maybe I have to reboot after the usermod?
[15:29] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, hmm this is nice, it can tell me what the user's preffered terminal is, but what about launching the program without knowing whether to use the -e or -x option :P
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: you need to log off and on again.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> foofoobar: same as in windows
[15:29] <foofoobar> all right, give me a second
[15:29] <Jonii_> Does anyone know any cool google search terms for this?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: you could grep the env to then select the right option.
[15:30] <Jonii_> I've been trying to come up with search terms like "ubuntu battery", but the results seem mostly unrelated
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: xterm is standard in all GNU distributions.....
[15:30] <bluezone> ActionParsnip, o really?
[15:30] <bluezone> so all GNU distros have xterm
[15:30] <foofoobar> ActionParsnip, all right, "groups" now tell me that I am in the audio group, but aplay still only works with sudo.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Jonii_: well, its too vague for a search
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> bluezone: yes, its mandatory. Even mac os has it
[15:31] <Jonii_> ActionParsnip: Yes, I just said that
[15:31] <TJ-> foofoobar: Is the file to be played only readable by 'root' ?
[15:31] <bluezone> beautiful
[15:31] <foofoobar> TJ-, no, -rw-r--r--
[15:31] <Jonii_> ActionParsnip: that's why I want help with coming up with better search terms. Or even direct help with my issue
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Jonii_: try searching for: ubuntu set warning battery levels
[15:32] <terminator1> test.....
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !test | terminator1
[15:33] <TJ-> foofoobar: How about the aplay executable "stat $(which aplay)" ?
[15:33] <Sander^home> How come the burning process for ubuntu 14.04 on a dvdr+ dosnt stop. I've followed this guide. And the dvd is just empty after burning it:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-ubuntu
[15:33] <jmss> mrpcguy: 770 does not work, how to you call the graphics mode between the initial text messages and the graphical one (runlevel 5)?
[15:34] <foofoobar> TJ-, its 0755
[15:34] <foofoobar> Not only the aplay command is not working, I have no sound here.
[15:34] <foofoobar> (No sounds for adjusting volume etc.)
[15:34] <Jonii_> ActionParsnip: that seems to only help with setting warning for battery, not actually enable me to use the remaining 25%-60% of the battery
[15:34] <foofoobar> the only sound I get is when I use sudo aplay..
[15:35] <mrdeb_> hi, when will ubuntu allow font changing in control panel like a normal distro, instead of having ot install gnome tweak tool hack
[15:35] <jmss> TJ-: text without splash and vga= does not work also, should I use vga= simultaneously?  should it make all boot process in text mode?
[15:35] <subb1> ActionParsnip, thanks budd
[15:35] <TJ-> foofoobar: That suggests the sound device node may not have "audio" group as its owner - what sound device is it?
[15:35] <biledemon> hey guys, I will build my own gaming computer which will be running Mint soon. Anything I should keep in mind regarding which components I buy other than choosing a Nvidia graphics card?
[15:35] <subb1> I had ignored it since I didn't have any problem with audio.
[15:35] <biledemon> woops I mean Ubuntu
[15:36] <foofoobar> TJ-, 0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH\n HDA Intel PCH at 0xd0510000 irq 44
[15:36] <TJ-> jmss: I *suspect* that you're suffering an issue with the CedarView driver and kernel mode setting. It was the cedarview device on that system, wasn't it?
[15:37] <jmss> TJ-: yes, I've had problems with cedarview in the past, so I decided to used this board just for a server
[15:37] <foofoobar> TJ-, its the onboard soundcard of my dell xps 13
[15:38] <jmss> TJ-: can I disable kernel mode setting and keep with the text console mode?
[15:38] <TJ-> foofoobar: Can you pastebin the output from "ls -al /dev/snd/"
[15:38] <jmss> will try nomodeset
[15:39] <maxiepax> encfs doesn't work that well over NFS (permissions basically), does anyone know a good simple encryption method that works over nfs? optimally one that contains everything in a single file.
[15:39] <terminator1>  which version of ubuntu will suppot my system config. Details:System Name	SWARUP-29A1F1F2
[15:39] <terminator1> System Manufacturer	Compaq Presario 061
[15:39] <terminator1> System Model	PY077AA-ACJ SR1530IL FD440
[15:39] <terminator1> System Type	X86-based PC
[15:39] <terminator1> Processor	x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~3065 Mhz
[15:39] <terminator1> BIOS Version/Date	American Megatrends Inc. 3.21, 4/29/2005
[15:39] <unopaste> terminator1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:39] <foofoobar> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7685801/
[15:39] <maxiepax> im guessing everything using FUSE will work really bad.
[15:40] <maxiepax> terminator1: 14.04 32-bit
[15:41] <amit_> how can i change themes in 14.04?
[15:42] <TJ-> foofoobar: That looks correct; if your user is part of the "audio" group and has done a complete log-out/log-in so the group membership is known, then it should be working
[15:42] <jmss> nomodeset is in effect but did not solve the blanking :\ can it be the monitor also? I've had some problems with it also but I was able to install in text mode? can I use the same text mode? I wil try if I can disable loading the cedarview driver
[15:44] <bnutzer> any help with the 14.04 server installer partitioner? i'd like to have the usual efi setup, but with smaller root and larger swap. the guided installer didn't let me choose the sizes
[15:45] <ravindu> Any one know any good graphics cards for ubuntu 14.04 desktop?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Amit: unity tweak can do that
[15:45] <foofoobar_> TJ-, sorry, I got a disconnect
[15:45] <bnutzer> ravindu: intel has the best ones, unless you need high performance
[15:46] <foofoobar_> Where is this channel logged to ?
[15:46] <ravindu> bnutzer: Yep
[15:46] <ravindu> bnutzer: I need high performance
[15:46] <ravindu> bnutzer: I was thinking of an AMD Radeon HD 5450
[15:46] <ravindu> bnutzer: Will that work without any errors? Cuz im a noob
[15:46] <bnutzer> ravindu: then nvidia, but make sure the computer doesn't have optimus then
[15:46] <ravindu> bnutzer: What is optimuz?
[15:47] <bnutzer> ravindu: hybrid graphics, with intel and nvidia
[15:47] <foofoobar_> TJ-, I dont know if you got my last message, here is my paste:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7685801/
[15:47] <ravindu> bnutzer: so how do I make sure that the computer doesnt have hybrid graphics?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> !log | foofoobar_
[15:48] <foofoobar_> ActionParsnip, thanks I found it. But they are not live.
[15:48] <bnutzer> ravindu: you need to read the specs carefully. they will list two graphics adapters then. most laptops have optimus, sadly
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Ah
[15:48] <ravindu> bnutzer: specs of what?
[15:48] <bnutzer> ravindu: of the computer, of course
[15:49] <jmss> phew, this workaround worked: blacklist gma500_gfx, do you remember a more correct way?
[15:49] <ravindu> bnutzer: I've got a Gigabyte G41mt s2p mobo, 4 gigs of ram, Intel Dual Core e5700 processor and right now, intel G41 graphics
[15:50] <tillian> hello
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: id have put in 8Gb, its the maximum for the board. Ram is cheap :-)
[15:52] <ravindu> ActionParsnip: Yeah But I wanna know if Radeon Hd 5450 will work without any problem for me
[15:52] <foofoobar_> TJ-, I had a bad crash yesterday when I tried to wake up from standby. Maybe this corrupted something related to the audio?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: should be ok, yes. The proproetary driver supports the gpu
[15:53] <bnutzer> how big should the efi partition be? i think another distro had 160 MB, but...
[15:53] <ravindu> ActionParsnip: So I just take plug it in the pciex16 slot connect the monitor to it, enable external PEG in bios and will it work?
[15:53] <TJ-> foofoobar: That looks correct; if your user is part of the "audio" group and has done a complete log-out/log-in so the group membership is known, then it should be working.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ravindu: as far as i know, yes
[15:54] <ravindu> ActionParsnip: Thanks so much..
[15:54] <bnutzer> ravindu: if it's not a laptop, you should be just fine. it's just known that nvidia has slightly higher performance than amd
[15:54] <TJ-> foofoobar_: A crash could certainly cause some issues. What points to ownership/permissions is that you can use it with 'sudo'
[15:54] <ravindu> ActionParsnip: This is the first time I'm doing this, so wish me luck
[15:54] <ravindu> bnutzer: What NVidia GPUs do you recommend for Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:55] <foofoobar_> TJ-, so how can I "reset" those audio related permissions?
[15:55] <TJ-> bnutzer: 128MB is more than enough unless you intend to install multiple direct-boot Linux kernels in the EFI SP
[15:55] <bnutzer> TJ-: thanks
[15:55] <TJ-> foofoobar_: Well so far they all look OK, that is the strange part
[15:55] <zacktu> How can I change the time before suspend to be more than the default 2 hours?
[15:56] <foofoobar_> TJ-, okay.. Is there anything else I can do ?
[15:56] <jmss> ok, thanks for the hints, bye
[15:56] <bnutzer> ravindu: i recommend trying it out with your current hw and buying something else if you're not happy :)
[15:57] <TJ-> foobrew: Yes. run strace and find out what is going on! "strace -o /tmp/aplay.strace.log -e trace=file aplay $YOURFILE" and then pastebin the "/tmp/aplay.strace.log" for us
[15:57] <ravindu> bnutzer: ok
[16:00] <Sander^home> When I burn an iso image to a dvdr+, the progress bar when  writing checksums is only zero, even tho i've waited alot.
[16:00] <foofoobar_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7685879/ and this is the paste with "sudo" (working): http://paste.ubuntu.com/7685888/
[16:01] <bnutzer> ok. thanks for the support
[16:02] <wilee-nilee> Sander^home, If this is brasero I turn off the file checksum in edit myself.
[16:02] <wilee-nilee> the write takes as long as the burn
[16:06] <TJ-> foofoobar_: When it fails is any message printed?
[16:06] <foofoobar_> TJ-, no.
[16:07] <Sander^home> wilee-nilee, there is no option to not write checksums.
[16:09] <Sander^home> wilee-nilee, and yes. its brasero :)
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> Sander^home, Not sure really with brasero I only used it a couple of days ago not having messed with it for years.
[16:10] <TJ-> foofoobar_: bear with me; I'm comparing the strace with one captured locally
[16:10] <Sander^home> wilee-nilee, do you know another burning program I can use?
[16:10] <foofoobar_> TJ-, okay, thank you.
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> Sander^home, there is a kubuntu burner k3b that works nicely but will add a lot of packages to ubuntu to be used.
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> more packages anyway
[16:13] <TJ-> foofoobar_: OK, the only thing I can figure it, since the captures are mostly the same, is that your user's local pulseaudio configuration has selected a default output device (sink) that is not connected to something audible. Is the user able to produce any sound from any sound-emitting applications, such as audio in videos ?
[16:13] <foofoobar_> TJ-, no, the user is not able to play any sound.
[16:14] <foofoobar_> Even when I'm adjusting the volume the "clicks" I get when going up/down are not played. Also the drums when logging in are not played.
[16:14] <Locke2002> If when I boot into the desktop, it gives me an error that only says report or cancel, what log can I check to see what it was about?
[16:14] <TJ-> foofoobar_: Just as an exercise, have you tried playing sound using the Guest account, and/or by creating a new user and using that account? It looks like a user-specific configuration issue right now
[16:15] <foofoobar_> TJ-, no, I did not. I will do this and come back. But when the gnome login window appears, there is also no sound.
[16:15] <Meerkat> how do I get that sweet looking penguin image when I boot?
[16:15] <foofoobar_> In this state no user is logged in, right?
[16:15] <panther_> hello
[16:16] <TJ-> foofoobar_: before you do, can you pastebin this output? "pacmd list | pastebinit"
[16:16] <panther_> is anyone there
[16:16] <panther_> I've got a question about my computer running linux mint
[16:16] <foofoobar_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7685972/
[16:16] <foofoobar_> I'm doing the guest sound test now, be right back.
[16:17] <panther_> I tried the #linuxmint channel. No help
[16:17] <panther_> I thought I could ask you guys
[16:17] <bazhang_> !mintsupport | panther_
[16:18] <panther_> ugh.
[16:18] <foofoobar> TJ-, I can here the drums on the login screen! (This was not working before)
[16:18] <foofoobar> However, also no sound under the guest account.
[16:18] <TJ-> foofoobar: Aha! OK, and in that pacmd list output it says the default output device (sink) is HDMI - is that correct?
[16:19] <foofoobar> TJ-, no, thats not correct. I have a display attached over dvi->hdmi
[16:19] <foofoobar> TJ-, oh god, I got it..
[16:19] <TJ-> foofoobar: Then that is probably the issue - sound is being directed to the HDMI by default "Default sink name: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.hdmi-stereo"
[16:20] <foofoobar> In the gnome-control-center app under "audio" I can select an outptu device.
[16:20] <foofoobar> There is a second entry - HDMI which is selected.
[16:20] <foofoobar> Why is my display recoginzed as an output device?
[16:20] <foofoobar> TJ-, thanks a lot for your help, my fault I have not looked there!
[16:21] <TJ-> foofoobar: Because the graphics card has an HDMI audio output
[16:21] <gadevoi> hello
[16:21] <gadevoi> i have an issue that i can't seem to fix
[16:21] <TJ-> foofoobar: This is a common issue, but your focus on the "aplay" and sudo mislead me into thinking you were trying to solve a permissions issue
[16:23] <foofoobar> TJ-, yeah I also thought its a permission issue.. So when using sudo the preferences from gnome-control-center are ignored?
[16:25] <TJ-> foofoobar: aplay is ALSA 'play' - I assume when run with 'sudo' it directly accesses the hardware devices but when run as an (unprivileged) user it uses the pulseaudio sound server
[16:25] <linuxuz3r> is systemd and upstart the same
[16:25] <foofoobar> TJ-, okay. Thanks again for your help!
[16:25] <TJ-> ALSA == Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[16:26] <bazhang_> linuxuz3r, no they are not the same
[16:27] <linuxuz3r> systemd is used in 14.04 right
[16:27] <linuxuz3r> or is it upstart
[16:27] <jimbohertz> upstaaaaaaaart
[16:28] <gdeeble> Hi, I've kind of reached a stumbling block. I had a perfectly working system, with a Raid1 for my OS and a single drive for storage, and now I went to a Raid1 and Raid5  set up. When I boot, I get  the "Drive disk not ready..." it's for the boot partition, though I can boot in. It also seems that when creating the array, I set it for md130(oddly it set my Boot as 127, swap 126 and root 125 when I created the raid 1). Anyone have sugg
[16:28] <jimbohertz> i dont even know
[16:29] <TJ-> linuxuz3r: the logind and udevd parts are used, but not the init system. That is due later as/when Debian adopts it and Ubuntu syncs from that
[16:30] <TJ-> gdeeble: The "/boot/" lives on the RAID1 OS mirror?
[16:30] <gdeeble> TJ-: Yes.
[16:30] <TJ-> gdeeble: Is the error from GRUB boot-loader, or during the linux start-up
[16:31] <linuxuz3r> TJ-, reading it now
[16:31] <gdeeble> I followed the tutorial and have had no issues up till now and it still boots without issue, just have to sit till it gets to "the disk drive for /boot is not ready yet or present" and hit s to bypass
[16:32] <TJ-> gdeeble: That suggests that mountall is taking its time dealing with the assembly of the 2 arrays, causing a temporary stall
[16:33] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I need help! I have Xubuntu 12.04, installed and when using android SDK and other tools, like firefox all text is white on a gray background (for tabs for example) I Cannot really see anything, all warning text is white on a white background! i have to constantly highlight all text to read it, is there a way to fix it... i am reading it is a GTK issue?
[16:36] <dfcnvt> I'm currently doing upgrade on my system and this is what I got during installation. http://imgur.com/znOQZrp
[16:36] <dfcnvt> I'm uncertain what this mean about "PermitRootLogin without-password".
[16:36] <gdeeble> TJ-: Anyway to stop the stall because it never stalled prior to me adding the raid5 in and updating Fstab to change mount point
[16:37] <dfcnvt> It sound obvious that it will login as root without password.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: did you enable root to ssh to the server by editting /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: this is not default behaviour and blocking ssh connections as root is a great way to protect your system.
[16:38] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure if I had.
[16:39] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: So, I guess it will becomes secure if I check-marked it?
[16:39] <TJ-> gdeeble: I'd want to check that mdadm isn't taking its time assembling the RAID-5... it sounds as if that might be the issue
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: then it wont be but i suggest you make the OS more secure by leaving the box unchecked.
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, Have you changed the theme?
[16:40] <linuxuz3r> which is the default in ubuntu upstart or systemd
[16:40] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: Thank you. This is what i was concerned about. Leaving it unchecked. Thanks.
[16:40] <Psil0Cybin> wilee-nilee, all the ones i like, do the same thing (dark themes) all light color themes are fine
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: in which release?
[16:41] <TJ-> gdeeble: also, you may be able to speed things up by ensuring there's a correctly configured mdadm.conf for the arrays, so the system doesn't have to to scan all devices
[16:41] <gdeeble> TJ-: I built it last night and it was fully operational before I pushed it, as I did an rysnc from single disk over to the raid5 so I could remove the single disk from the system. That's what's odd. Now the Raid 5 is stating that it's got to "resync"
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> Psil0Cybin, These are onboard themes it sounds like?
[16:41] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, 14.04
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> no downloads
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> correct wilnee-nilee
[16:42] <gdeeble> TJ-: Can you point me in the direction of what I should be searching for? I understand a lot of the raid stuff from a windows standpoint, however, linux... not my best at haha.
[16:42] <TJ-> gdeeble: which means the array is still in an inconsistent state, so the disks will be sorting themselves out
[16:42] <gdeeble> TJ-: Thus meaning leave it sit till it boots on it's own?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: seems to be upstart http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[16:42] <TJ-> gdeeble: give the system time to become consistent then it should be fine, assuming it is shut-down cleanly
[16:43] <TJ-> gdeeble: what does "cat /proc/mdstat" report?
[16:43] <jimbohertz> told yyuuhh
[16:43] <linuxuz3r> ok
[16:44] <gdeeble> TJ-: It's missing the boot raid container from it and the new raid 5 is resync=PENDING
[16:44] <gdeeble> I have been restarting quit frequently to try to figure this out so may be that has something to do with it
[16:45] <TJ-> gdeeble: does it also say "auto-read-only"
[16:45] <gdeeble> Yes
[16:45] <gdeeble> TJ-: I removed it from FStab for the current time being
[16:45] <TJ-> gdeeble: "sudo mdadm --readwrite /dev/mdX" (replace X)
[16:46] <TJ-> gdeeble: now do "cat /proc/mdstat"
[16:46] <XposWinU> best alternative to "File Roller" archive manager?
[16:47] <gdeeble> TJ-: Working on it, the odd thing is though mdstat only shows 3 containers not 4
[16:47] <TJ-> gdeeble: by containers, you mean separate MD devices?
[16:48] <gdeeble> correct
[16:48] <TJ-> gdeeble: the missing one being the RAID-1 with "/boot/" on?
[16:48] <CrRaul> Hy...I'm new in linux and I'd like to know if can install office?
[16:48] <gdeeble> TJ-: It shows root(125),swap(126), raid5(127 rather than 130). I really wish I could rename them to 0,1,2,3
[16:49] <bazhang_> !wine | CrRaul
[16:49] <bazhang_> check the appdb for how well it works CrRaul
[16:49] <TJ-> gdeeble: That is where mdadm.conf comes in; you can define the arrays and their members there
[16:49] <CrRaul> ok..thx
[16:50] <TJ-> gdeeble: "man mdadm.conf" for info
[16:50] <bazhang_> !appdb | CrRaul
[16:50] <bazhang_> CrRaul, or just use libreoffice
[16:50] <gdeeble> TJ-: Now the array is resyncing
[16:50] <brasileiro> hi, i'm having a little problem with my wired usb mouse... it freezes from time to time... i've already changed the laptop-mode configs to blacklist his ID from autosuspend, but the problem continues... any ideas?
[16:50] <TJ-> gdeeble: Good... let it complete that, and whilst it does research the mdadm.conf config you need
[16:51] <CrRaul> I use libreoffice but i need of Microsoft office because is complex...
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> brasileiro: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:51] <gdeeble> TJ-: so once that rebuilds properly, then it should stop griping about the "/boot" not ready or present?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> CrRaul: lots of guides for Wine. Check the wine appdb for details
[16:51] <brasileiro> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[16:52] <bazhang_> CrRaul, then check the appdb and join #winehq for help
[16:52] <TJ-> gdeeble: alternatively to mdadm.conf, you can change the 'preferred minor' number of an array. Use "mdadm --detail /dev/mdX" to discover the current preference
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> brasileiro: if you use a non compoziting session like xfce is it ok (you can install xfce4 package, log off then log in to the new xfce session)
[16:52] <TJ-> gdeeble: possibly. It's not clear as yet whether the delay on assembling the RAID-5 was preventing the RAID-1 from being ready in time for mountall
[16:53] <TJ-> gdeeble: see this article for how to change the preferred minor number: http://superuser.com/questions/346719/how-to-change-the-name-of-an-md-device-mdadm
[16:53] <brasileiro> ActionParsnip, i'm using gnome, should I install xfce?
[16:53] <TJ-> gdeeble: I have to leave now, good luck
[16:53] <gdeeble> TJ-: Thanks so much for all the help.  Try a session that doesnt use compoziting
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> brasileiro: if xfce is ok then we know that compiz is to blame (becuse imho its junk)
[16:59] <brasileiro> ActionParsnip, ok, gonna try that right now =)
[17:01] <Psil0Cybin> is there an easy way to edit a gtk theme so that i can change the background color of text box's
[17:01] <Psil0Cybin> if i like the theme but for some reason the theme text is gray and the background color is the same
[17:02] <brasileiro> ActionParsnip, yeah, that was it...
[17:02] <brasileiro> ActionParsnip, incredible! thank you very much!!
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> brasileiro: no worries
[17:05] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, there still is no theme editor, but maybe this page is any help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Theming
[17:05] <Psil0Cybin> how about xfce same thing?
[17:06] <OerHeks> dunno
[17:06] <maxiepax> anyone able to recommend a folder encryption that isn't based on FUSE? Something that works nicely with NFS, preferably something that spits out a single file?
[17:10] <Jonii_> Hello. All my Ubuntu installations seem to be very prone to crashing if battery goes below 2h remaining
[17:10] <Jonii_> Basically to the extent that almost 50% of my battery life is completely useless, since I never get to use anything below 50% as the computer simply crashes if I go below that point
[17:11] <Jonii_> Any ideas why this happens and how to prevent it? It seems to coincide with random spikes of doing cpu intensive stuff, like opening programs. Having screen brightness setting anywhere above 0% is a guaranteed way to make it happen as well
[17:13] <eXile> I have something really strange happening, after boot, about 5 minutes or so later, theres a crazy loop of "lshw | grep version | head -1", so many times I actully run out of memory, load skyrocket. I cant seem to find where its running from any ideas? I just disabled cron and its not a cronjob, its still happening
[17:13] <vmnovak> Good Afternoon All,  I was wondering if anyone here was framilar with setting up VPN servers in Ubuntu.  I've tried a couple of solutions (OpenVPN, L2TPServer) and have had no luck making it work.  I really think I'm failing to understand something.
[17:14] <vmnovak> Would some kind soul be willing to help me out?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> vmnovak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119534/easiest-way-to-setup-ubuntu-as-a-vpn-server
[17:15] <Psil0Cybin> OerHeks, like all i want to do is change the text color
[17:15] <Psil0Cybin> on the panel?
[17:15] <Psil0Cybin> would i need to do a lot of digging and editing for that
[17:16] <[[thufir]]> very weird.  I can't ping google, but IRC works fine...
[17:16] <terminator2>  opera ssl error how to fix it
[17:17] <brasileiro__> ActionParsnip, just another question... to change completely to xfce4 all i need to do is remove ubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop using apt-get?
[17:20] <[[thufir]]> how can it be that most websites give "Server not found" in firefox, I can't ping google, but can chat on IRC?  I'm on a home network.  I connect to a router, which has a wireless adapter, which connects to the landlords wifi.  (weird, I know, but works.)     how do I know whether is a problem with the ISP, my network, my landlords network, or my computer?
[17:22] <[[thufir]]> to top it all off, I can go on askubuntu.com and stackoverflow.com, but not google or, really, anything else.  "server not found"   makes no sense at all...
[17:22] <OerHeks> [[thufir]], dns issue, you connect to freenode by IP
[17:22] <OerHeks> oh, that makes no sense indeed
[17:23] <vmnovak> ActionParsnip,  My understanding is that PPTP is insecure?
[17:23] <Jonii_> [[thufir]]: try this connecting to this ip using firefox: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:23] <[[thufir]]> Jonii_: yup, that works.  google comes up fine.  this is dns issue?
[17:23] <DJJeff> I did apt-get purge pulseaudio now youtube videos in firefox are playing just fine
[17:24] <DJJeff> is it just me or pulseaudio is garbage
[17:24] <Jonii_> [[thufir]]: well, i'm far from an expert, but I certainly seems that way
[17:24] <Jonii_> it*
[17:25] <[[thufir]]> I thought I was in the twilight zone.  there's some sort of free dns I can use, instead of my ISP, right?  I'll try that.
[17:25] <vmnovak> [[thufir]],Google DNS <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:27] <bart> Hi
[17:27] <Guest43157> is it possible to switch into single user mode without rebooting the computer in Ubuntu?
[17:28] <[[thufir]]> I can't google it, no results when I google dns <IP_ADDRESS>    so, I can just put <IP_ADDRESS> into my "wired connection 1" as an alternate DNS server?
[17:29] <OerHeks> [[thufir]], i would use the adress of your landlords wifi ip
[17:33] <[[thufir]]> as in <IP_ADDRESS> (IIRC) for DNS?  keep in mind, that there are three routers involved: landlord -> GWU627 -> home router    they are all routers.  the GWU627 is an IOgear wifi adapter which does NAT and provides an IP address, I think <IP_ADDRESS>, to my home router.   if that makes any sense.  Maybe I'll just powercycle everything first.
[17:34] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys anyway to get a dark colored gtk theme without dark text when you type in text fields? anyway to edit these kind of themes
[17:35] <bnutzer> hello. two questions: what is the default terminal emulator and is it possible to get rid of these shopping searches etc on unity? (14.04)
[17:35] <asdofindia> bnutzer, gnome-terminal and yes.
[17:35] <wrongplace> hi i get this every time I boot the system: 0271 check date settings 0251 system cmos checksum bad <<< i have already written new and correct date settings thrice in the last week. Sometimes the system boots without problems and other times, 3 so far, I eitehr press f1 and continue or press f2 and write, again, the date settings. Why does the system keep forgetting the correct date and time settings?
[17:35] <cylonmath> I use gnome-session-fallback package which provides old gnome interface, and I am in love with it.
[17:36] <hackal> Hello, I have apache2 on 14.04. I am getting this error "The uploaded file exceeds the upload_max_filesize directive in php.ini." which php.ini file should I edit to change this setting and what other settings should I change?
[17:36] <OerHeks> bnutzer, no, shopping stuff is hard coded, i use synaptic to avoid that crap
[17:36] <bnutzer> asdofindia: ahh, looks like gnome-terminal is installes, but the search thingy didn't find it at first
[17:37] <bnutzer> asdofindia: any information about removing it? i like unity, but don't need the search thingy
[17:37] <OerHeks> asdofindia, how would you turn those shopping off?
[17:38] <fffff> I have  Lubuntu and my kodak camera will not mount.. I searched and search no results..
[17:38] <fffff> i installed gthumb fprot etec tec nothing
[17:38] <fffff> fspot
[17:39] <enrique_> hi, any knows if its possible sync lumia phones with ubuntu?
[17:39] <fffff> ????
[17:39] <Bashing-om> wrongplace: Dual booting Windows ? A difference in how the harware clock is read ?
[17:39] <wrongplace> no, only ubuntu
[17:39] <asdofindia> bnutzer, OerHeks: settings -> security and privacy -> search -> online sources
[17:39] <bnutzer> fffff: perhaps the camera doesn't expose the file system directly, but uses something like mtp for access
[17:40] <bnutzer> asdofindia: thank you very much :)
[17:40] <fffff> well i just installed lubuntu this is sucky i need to get photos off
[17:41] <asdofindia> fffff, on your camera there must be something called a mass storage mode.
[17:41] <fffff> there is a mode i selected it
[17:41] <OerHeks> asdofindia, no, that is for the amazon stuff
[17:42] <Beldar> fffff, in the terminal run lsusb and see if the camera shows.
[17:42] <fffff> no
[17:42] <loki27_> Anyone used MAAS ?
[17:42] <fffff> wait just did it again and its there
[17:42] <Bashing-om> wrongplace: /etc/default/rcS ; What is set in the line Set UTC=yes : ??
[17:42] <bnutzer> how would one change the default "runlevel" or what ever it is called?
[17:43] <Beldar> fffff, Ah well the computer does not see it. Does kodak promise linux access?
[17:43] <OerHeks> fffff, gphotofs should work, 1st answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/465090/14-04-doesnt-mount-digital-camera
[17:43] <fffff> Bus 002 Device 014: ID 040a:060c Kodak Co.
[17:43] <loki27_> I have setup MAAS, now have 4 nodes in "Ready state" then what ?
[17:44] <fffff> gthumbs? and fspot does not see it
[17:44] <OerHeks> gthumbs ? did i type that?
[17:44] <wrongplace> Bashing-om, UTC=yes <<<< thats what the file says
[17:46] <Bashing-om> wrongplace: That entry is correct for linux .. I am out of ideas what else might change the hardware clock.
[17:46] <wrongplace> Bashing-om, my systems turns a bit unstable every time it runs on battery power only
[17:47] <wrongplace> like, the clock shows a false time, but the date is ok
[17:47] <fffff> i install gphotofs
[17:47] <Prasad> how to install ubuntu sdk on debian wheezy?help?
[17:48] <OerHeks> Prasad, not, as you will run into issues.
[17:48] <Bashing-om> wrongplace: Lap top machine ? is laptop-mode-tools installed ?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> fffff: does the camera have a disk mode?
[17:49] <wrongplace> Bashing-om, is that the package name?
[17:49] <Bashing-om> wrongplace: Yepper, laptop-mode-tools .
[17:50] <ttynewbie> ubuntu bootable usb..using dd?
[17:50] <fffff> yea lsusb shows the camera
[17:50] <wrongplace> Bashing-om, should I install it?
[17:50] <Prasad> OerHeks: so what i need to do to get started to build ubuntu apps ,shift to ubuntu os(is the only solution)?
[17:50] <fffff> but does not pop up nor can gthum or shotwell show it
[17:51] <OerHeks> Prasad, yes, as ubuntu is tweaked ( root account disabled)
[17:51] <theadmin> OerHeks: ...that's far from the only difference between Ubuntu and Debian
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> fffff: thats not what i asked.....
[17:52] <OerHeks> theadmin, just one example why it will run into issues
[17:52] <fffff> there is a mode.. application mode or kodak mode
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: its worked up to now...
[17:52] <Bashing-om> wrongplace: That is but one option for managing power in a lap top.. as it is native it is the one I suggest. Takes some configuring from what I have gathered.
[17:52] <ttynewbie> How do i put ubuntu on a bootable usb? dd doesn't work
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> fffff: have you tried both?
[17:52] <fffff> yes
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ttynewbie: use unetbootin. Be sure to MD5 test the ISO if you downloaded it yourself.
[17:53] <theadmin> ttynewbie: dd does work with latest releases
[17:53] <theadmin> ttynewbie: Works with 12.04 and later, not sure about earlier
[17:53] <theadmin> ttynewbie: Are you sure you're doing it right? You have to write to a drive, not a partition, like this: sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdz
[17:53] <theadmin> ttynewbie: (note: sdz, not sdz1)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> fffff: does dmesg show any output if you unplug and replug in the device. You may need to use an SD card reader. Kodak hate Linux
[17:54] <fffff> fml
[17:54] <fffff> i have no reader
[17:54] <tony> are there any alternitives to Wine?
[17:54] <fffff> 2396.011253] usb 2-6: Product: KODAK EASYSHARE C195 Digital Camera
[17:54] <ttynewbie> How do i check my usb device..just to be sure!
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> tony: cedega or crossover office
[17:54] <tony> k
[17:55] <fffff> i really dont want to have to install windows for a camera
[17:55] <theadmin> tony: No, not really. Those mentioned are based on wine anyway
[17:55] <tony> k
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Tony: both have an appdb, just like wine
[17:55] <tony> k
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> fffff: you may be able to add a udev rule to tell the OS to read it as a storage device
[17:56] <fffff> how ?
[17:56] <theadmin> ttynewbie: Run a md5sum check, md5sum /dev/sdz
[17:56] <theadmin> ttynewbie: Of course, replace "sdz" with the actual device
[17:56] <theadmin> *might* need sudo there, not sure
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> fffff: im no good with udev rules. There are tonnes of guides online, maybe someone else can advise.  I mean if its sdb or sdx
[17:58] <theadmin> ttynewbie: sudo blkid should help
[17:59] <ttynewbie> Do i need to umount it first?
[17:59] <zsmh> test... can you all see me?
[17:59] <theadmin> ttynewbie: Before dding, yes.
[17:59] <theadmin> zsmh: Yes.
[17:59] <fffff> ok guess i will remove this linux lubuntu shit to use a camera lol fail
[17:59] <zsmh> thank you
[17:59] <ttynewbie> Ok thx
[18:00] <mrpcguy> how do i stop unity from starting on boot?
[18:00] <theadmin> mrpcguy: What? It doesn't start at boot, it starts on login. Do you mean disabling automatic sign-in?
[18:02] <mrpcguy> theadmin: only on login? what about disabling the gui login screen so it starts up to a command prompt.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> mrpcguy: install a new session like xfce4 or lxde
[18:03] <theadmin> mrpcguy: Ah, that
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mrpcguy: its a plugin for compiz so is easily disabled there but you will need to manually launch another shell / panel
[18:03] <theadmin> mrpcguy: sudo service lightdm stop && sudo mv /etc/init/lightdm.conf /etc/init/lightdm.conf.disabled
[18:03] <Guest37628> howdy, how can I restart my ctrl+alt+F7 screen ? it's frozen after trying to remove some compiz options
[18:03] <Guest37628> ?
[18:03] <theadmin> mrpcguy: That will disable the GUI login
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mrpcguy: or add the boot option: text
[18:04] <terminator1>  opera ssl error solutions?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> mrpcguy: it will boot to cli only
[18:04] <mrpcguy> thank you
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> terminator1: when do you get the errors?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> terminator1: we need details, we cannot see your system.
[18:04] <terminator1>  when viisiting twitter.com
[18:05] <oddant> howdy, how can I restart my ctrl+alt+F7 screen ? it's frozen after trying to remove some compiz options
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> terminator1: does it only affect twitter's page?
[18:05] <terminator1>  any site with secured connecttion.
[18:05] <linuxuz3r> oddant, try sudo telinit 2
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> terminator1: and what do you see onscreen when you go to the page?
[18:06] <terminator1>  ssl error return to safety.
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> terminator1: why was this sort of detail not on your initial question?
[18:07] <oddant> linuxuz3r: unfortunately nothing happens
[18:07] <terminator1>  invalid server certificate.
[18:08] <sl33k_> How do I delete ~/.m2/repository ?
[18:08] <oddant> ignore /JOIN
[18:09] <theadmin> sl33k_: rm -r ~/.m2/repository
[18:09] <terminator1>  ssl error invalid server certificate.
[18:10] <terminator1>  sugessions please ?
[18:10] <bekks> terminator1: Can you pastebin the entire, full, error message please?
[18:11] <sydney> I have a realtek RTL-8185,and after a while of being connected to the internet,it will dissconect,and keep disconecting and reconecting. Is there a simple fix?
[18:12] <bnutzer> 14.04 looks like good release. great work, guys.
[18:12] <bnutzer> a
[18:13] <yman> hello
[18:15] <ianorlin> sydney: are these usb or pcie wirless cards?
[18:15] <oddant> send me a message, if you are a ubuntulogist
[18:15] <sydney> ianorlin: The realtek is a pci,and the netgear is usb
[18:16] <terminator1>  You attempted to reach twitter.com, but the server presented an invalid certificate. You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain
[18:16] <terminator1> ^ error log.
[18:17] <yman> how can i install 14.04 ltr from a flash drive
[18:17] <theadmin> yman: What OS do you currently have?
[18:17] <yman> 11.04
[18:18] <hanna> yman: use startup disk creator
[18:18] <theadmin> yman: Yeah, that. It comes with Ubuntu
[18:18] <yman> ok i will try it
[18:19] <ianorlin> sydney for the realtek 8185 only works with ndiswrapper from what I have read so https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[18:19] <yman> there is no option for installing on to a fleash drive only for  a disk
[18:20] <terminator1> bekks: this is the error log -- You attempted to reach twitter.com, but the server presented an invalid certificate. You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain .
[18:21] <bnutzer> yman: just write the installation dvd/cd image onto a stick
[18:21] <waytoheaven> hey guys is this the place to ask for solutions to silly problems ?
[18:21] <bnutzer> sure
[18:21] <theadmin> waytoheaven: Yes
[18:22] <waytoheaven> umm okay sooo i am on a laptop (with res 1920x1080) but i can set it to 1024x768 max...
[18:22] <ianorlin> waytoheaven: did you boot in rescuemode?
[18:22] <waytoheaven> nope
[18:22] <ianorlin> also what graphics drivers are you using?
[18:23] <theadmin> waytoheaven: Missing or broken video driver, check System Settings -> Software and Updates -> Additional Drivers
[18:24] <hanna> waytoheaven: have you checked the display settings in the settings manager?
[18:24] <foofoobar> Is there a way to permanently deactivate audio output via HDMI?
[18:24] <foofoobar> It gets activated every time I plug in my external monitor
[18:24] <waytoheaven> theadmin : you are my god <33 absolutely correct i was using x.org driver instead of nvidia one
[18:24] <waytoheaven> thanks a lot !
[18:25] <ianorlin> foofoobar mute hdmi output?
[18:25] <foofoobar> ianorlin, then I just get no sound.
[18:25] <foofoobar> I want to stay always on the internal analog audio device.
[18:26] <bnutzer> is there a way to blacklist packages? i don't want accidentally install some things
[18:26] <ianorlin> not the computer sound but for the hdmi output
[18:27] <theadmin> foofoobar: pavucontrol should help you
[18:28] <terminator1> i have having issues with opera browser when i try to open twitter it says follwing error message : You attempted to reach twitter.com, but the server presented an invalid certificate. You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain .
[18:29] <theadmin> terminator1: Check your system time.
[18:29] <theadmin> terminator1: Also, check for updates, and make sure you are running a supported Ubuntu version
[18:29] <foofoobar> theadmin, there is only a checkbox to mute it.
[18:29] <terminator1> it is correct.
[18:29] <foofoobar> I want to disable it (cause my monitor does not have a speaker=
[18:29] <freezer> hello my friends
[18:30] <theadmin> foofoobar: In output devices, there's a green checkmark thing near every device, check it for your internal device
[18:30] <freezer> would you care for some tea?
[18:30] <terminator1> system time is correct.
[18:30] <theadmin> terminator1: "Also, check for updates, and make sure you are running a supported Ubuntu version"
[18:30] <alexi5> hello
[18:30] <alexi5> is it possible to watch netflix on ubuntu
[18:30] <foofoobar> theadmin, I did. So now it will always take the interal one?
[18:31] <terminator1> i am running ubuntu 10.1.
[18:32] <OerHeks> terminator1, maybe that is why you did not get hte SSL update, 10.10 is EOL and 10.04 desktop too
[18:32] <theadmin> foofoobar: It should, yup
[18:32] <foofoobar> theadmin, thanks
[18:32] <hanna> alexi5: yes it is. check out this link: http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/
[18:33] <Jonii_> Hello. All my Ubuntu installations seem to be very prone to crashing if battery goes below 2h remaining
[18:33] <alexi5> thanks hanna
[18:34] <alexi5> This is my firts install of ubuntu on a SSD and this install runs smooth compare to when I  ran it on HDD
[18:35] <hanna> alexi5: yes, it's definitely a delight to switch from hdd to ssd
[18:39] <Jonii_> It takes like 45min to install programs required to use Netflix on Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Jonii_> I'm still struggling to use these various proxy things to change my location for netflix as well. They for whatever reason don't seem to work on Netflix Desktop as well as they did on Windows
[18:41] <linuxuz3r> i miss redhat
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> tu
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> lol
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> hey guys. im following this guide: https://leonard.io/blog/2011/12/installing-ruby-1-9-2-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneric-ocelot-without-using-rvm/
[18:42] <alexi5> jonii_: you can get one of those dns proxies
[18:42] <AcidRain2012> when it says --slave ...... how do i execute that command? im not sure what its taling about
[18:45] <Jonii_> AcidRain2012: it's not a command but a parameter? Like, \ is to indicate that the line continues?
[18:45] <oddant> how one would run compiz settings manager from the command line ?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Jonii_: netflix doesnt support linux outside of Android. The netflix-desktop package uses a seriously hacked Wine version.
[18:45] <AcidRain2012> oh snap
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> are u sure?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> oddant: compiz --replace
[18:46] <Jonii_> AcidRain2012: nope
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> oh...
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Jonii_: so the fact that it works at all isnt due to Netflix supporting Linux well.
[18:47] <oddant> ActionParsnip: thanks but i still can't reach
[18:48] <Jonii_> ActionParsnip: that much I knew, but I don't see the relevance of this. I just mentioned this because alexi5 seemed to be about to install Netflix Desktop, and thought he should know what to expect
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> oddant: reach what?
[18:50] <oddant> ActionParsnip: i changed some parameters in the manager because i am on a old computer and wanted the graphical interface to be lighter, but i think after i unselected opengl from the panel it went crazy and removed all the components from my GUI except folders (even i reboot there is nothing on the desktop anymore)
[18:50] <Pixel> hello
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> oddant: if you have an older pc, you may want to use lxde or xfce4
[18:52] <oddant> i wish i used those but i can't even reach my browser anymore
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> oddant: press CTRL+ALT+T do you get a terminal?
[18:54] <oddant> yes i do, and that's why i wanted to open the graphical interface of compiz settings
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> oddant: run: sudo apt-get install lxde; killall -u $USER
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> oddant: on the login page, change the session to LXDE and login
[18:55] <oddant> ok i'll try
[18:55] <oddant> thanks
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Np
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> oddant: you dont need to change the command i gave, just run it as given
[18:57] <oddant> sure
[18:57] <oddant> in progress
[18:58] <sydney> XD
[18:58] <oddant> don't you know if there is a way to have the same shortcut than unity using lxde (i like to arrange my windows during programming and so)
[18:58] <sydney> That is rediculous to make a face out of xd
[18:59] <sydney> oddant: What do you mean?
[18:59] <oddant> it was a question for ActionParsnip
[19:02] <oddant> ok it works well now
[19:02] <oddant> great
[19:02] <dj_beirut> is it possible to create a sub interface on the same nic?
[19:03] <Guest97839> im trying xubuntu in asus laptop with nvidia but fans dont stop working even when load is only 2%. what I do_
[19:03] <sydney> oddant: If you want to talk to a certian person,type thier name before your sentence.
[19:04] <sydney> oddant: And if its a long name,type the first few letters,then hit tab. :D
[19:04] <linuxuz3r> im behind a a wireless lan im just wondering if i change my nameserver name will other people connect to my machine using the name server i created
[19:04] <pavlos> dj_beirut, this may help ... http://ithelpblog.com/os/linux/debian/ubuntu-debian/create-sub-interface-secondary-ip-address-ubuntu-debian/
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: you can change dns servers with no ill effects. Or do you mean your hostname of your computer?
[19:06] <linuxuz3r> ActionParsnip, i want to set my ip to www.THISISCOOL.com
[19:06] <linuxuz3r> can i do that by changing something in ubuntu
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: then you will need to buy the name
[19:07] <linuxuz3r> ok
[19:07] <linuxuz3r> then connect my dns to the name right
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: you can point the name to your routers WAN IP and port forward as you need.
[19:07] <linuxuz3r> ok
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: you wont change anything on your system.
[19:08] <linuxuz3r> my router uses dhcp do i need special router for it
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: no, not at all
[19:08] <linuxuz3r> ok
[19:09] <mzaza> Is TLP better than Laptop-Mode?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: if your wan ip changes then it may cause issues but most ISPs give the same IP. Depends on the provider.
[19:09] <linuxuz3r> ok
[19:09] <mzaza> I am looking for a way to enhance battery life to the maximum on my laptop, PowerTop seems to forget the settings after a reboot. So I was thinking can TLP and laptop-mode be compared?
[19:11] <rigo88> hi. i get 600 fps with glxgears. any suggestions why?
[19:12] <mzaza> I red everywhere that laptop-mode isn't need anymore as it's supported in newer version of Ubuntu.
[19:12] <rigo88> any ideas i mean
[19:12] <Beldar> mzaza, you will in the end get at best a incremental improvement, the drivers for battery use are all reversed engineered basically.
[19:12] <pavlos> rigo88, I get between 60-70 fps which is the refresh rate of my monitor
[19:12] <OerHeks> rigo88, what is wrong with that? lcd needs 50 frames or so
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Rigo: because thats as fast as your gpu can render it.....
[19:13] <rigo88> i should get around 3-4000. (as i did with my previous install)
[19:13] <mzaza> Beldar: So it's a Linux problem in general. Right?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> rigo88: you cant see more than 30....
[19:14] <Beldar> mzaza, no it's a manufacturers not writing for linux problem.
[19:14] <NthDegree> O_o
[19:14] <NthDegree> You guys are not serious right?
[19:14] <rigo88> of course with vblank_mode=0
[19:14] <mzaza> Beldar: Ah, :(
[19:14] <NthDegree> Battery use in Linux is easy to minimise with powertop
[19:14] <NthDegree> and with Lubuntu you can easily get a full 8-10 hours battery
[19:15] <Beldar> NthDegree, but will barely make a difference is all.
[19:15] <NthDegree> hardly, the difference for me has been up to 50%
[19:15] <rigo88> so im not at the right place to ask. :)
[19:15] <CrRaul> heloo..How can I set the laptop brightness...?
[19:15] <Beldar> NthDegree, then you are a miracle worker if you mean with powertop, be clear and exact.
[19:16] <NthDegree> Beldar, no, the truth is Linux is very well optimised, Xorg is a battery sucker
[19:16] <Beldar> NthDegree, I did not say it was not, you are projecting.
[19:16] <NthDegree> You use powertop, follow recommendations and then switch to a light DE like LXDE or XFCE
[19:17] <Beldar> NthDegree, But I can tell you are always right no matter what so our conversation is over. ;)
[19:18]  * NthDegree just cannot be bothered to give a step by step howto on something that's already well-documented O_o
[19:18] <nzerob> Hello. Is there a >> GUI << program to control fan speeds and see temperatures?
[19:18] <Spec> gnome-multi-terminal
[19:19] <Dylan> I'm trying to upload a video to youtube with subtitles using either an .ssa file or an .ass file. I created the subtitles with Aegisub, "muxed" them with mkvmerge, the subtitles worked excellently from my harddisk when I played the video, but simply did not show up at all when uploaded to youtube. Anyone have an idea what's going on?
[19:19] <Beldar> !details > Spec
[19:20] <Spec> Beldar: what.
[19:20] <NthDegree> nzerob, gnome-applet-sensors will let you see temperatures
[19:21] <Dylan> Anyone have any idea on my question or shall I quest elsewhere for an answer?
[19:21] <NthDegree> nzerob, for NVIDIA GPUs, you'll need to enable coolbits to control the fan speed
[19:21] <Beldar> Spec, that is what I wondered.
[19:21] <Spec> Beldar: it's a GUI program that'll let you do anything, including controlling fan speeds and monitoring temperatures.
[19:22] <Beldar> Spec, Ah with a prefaced nick it is not clear is all, the channel asks you do this.
[19:22] <Beldar> without*
[19:23] <Beldar> !info gnome-multi-terminal
[19:23] <alexi5> what programs in ubuntu can i use to watch tv using my tv tuner card (hauppauge HVR 2250)
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Alexi5: tvtime
[19:24] <Beldar> !info gnome-multi-terminal precise
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> !info cssh Beldar
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> !info cssh | Beldar
[19:24] <alexi5> ActionParsnip: thanks
[19:24] <Dylan> I guess I shall search elsewhere.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> No cssh in trusty! There is no god!
[19:25] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, I was just checking if a suggested app was in the repos, not sure the reference.
[19:25] <OerHeks> !find ccsh
[19:32] <Demon> Hello
[19:32] <Demon> Everyone
[19:32] <ttynewbie> Tried installing dual boot.staring at a grub rescue screen :( some help
[19:33] <trism> !info clusterssh | ActionParsnip this?
[19:37] <iceroot> what is the name of the program/package for controling the soundmixer? click on the sound-icon and then mixer. what is that tool? its not pavucontrol
[19:38] <Demon> Alsamixer?
[19:40] <Demon> How to install .dev
[19:40] <Demon> Deb
[19:41] <bekks> Demon: Which dev exactly?
[19:41] <bekks> Demon: deb :)
[19:41] <cemotyz09> you should just double click and it should open software center
[19:41] <Demon> Sory .. I mean ..I want to install
[19:41] <Demon> Ncurses
[19:41] <bekks> !info ncurses
[19:42] <g0twig> Hello
[19:42] <hanna> demon: you can also use the dpkg command. see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-do-i-install-deb-packages/ for more info
[19:42] <bekks> Demon: Which ncurses package exactly?
[19:42] <g0twig> How can I install ia32libs on Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:42] <Demon> Aaah .. Okey
[19:42] <bekks> Demon: ncurses is in the repos - you dont need to install it from 3rd party deb file.
[19:43] <linxcat> Is the difference between lubuntu and ubuntu just the desktop interface?
[19:43] <bekks> linxcat: Yes.
[19:44] <Demon> Aah..okey thanx frnd
[19:44] <linxcat> then how come when i installed lubuntu it couldnt find my wireless card and when i installed ubuntu it found it?
[19:44] <linxcat> i did updates on both
[19:44] <g0twig> how can I install ia32lib in ubuntu 14.04
[19:45] <bekks> linxcat: How about asking your actual question? :) Which chipset do you have, and whats "not working" throwing which error actually?
[19:45] <dannixon> linxcat: There are some differences in packages aswell but this shouldn't cause that issue
[19:45] <kilab33z> sounds driver related
[19:45] <nzerob> I have Linux Mint. Why do I see connections to Canonical then?
[19:45] <Beldar> g0twig, have some patience, that is not in 14.04 as you know and there is lots of info on the web while you wait.
[19:45] <bekks> nzerob: Because Mint uses Ubuntu repos, partially.
[19:46] <Jonii_> nzerob: because Ubuntu is Debian but changed, and Mint is Ubuntu but changed back towards Debian
[19:47] <Jonii_> Also, why does Ubuntu fail at battery usage? If I go below 2h remaining on my battery, Ubuntu pretty reliably just turns off with various graphical glitches manifesting moments before that happens
[19:48] <Jonii_> I used to have windows on the same laptop, and it had longer battery life as measured what system indicated, and I could use it for whatever even when the clock indicated battery was going to die in 5min
[19:48] <g0twig> Beldar: thank you for nothing
[19:48] <Jonii_> It's a pretty crippling disability for Ubuntu
[19:48] <Jonii_> And I don't understand why is it even happening
[19:49] <ikonia> Jonii_: there can be lots of power managment problems, depending on many things
[19:49] <san13> Jonii__ do you have gpu?
[19:49] <ikonia> Jonii_: it's rare it's an actual ubuntu problem, but more likely a limitation with Linux/your hardware
[19:49] <kilab33z> i would think the battery usage is a direct result in how each distro handles cpu cycles differently
[19:49] <kilab33z> but purely a guess
[19:49] <OerHeks> g0twig, install the package you want like apt-get install <package>:i386
[19:49] <san13> Jonii__:i mean any card like nvidia or amd?
[19:50] <Jonii_> My laptop is ASUS UX31E
[19:54] <san13> Jonii_: can u install powertop and tell me your power consumption in watts...it would be mentioned on the top once u open powertop...and do it without charger plugged in..
[19:59] <k-stz`> how can I install packages offline? Is there a way to somehow assemble a package of a working installation and put it on usb, so i can install it on another ubuntu?
[20:00] <OerHeks> k-stz`, sure, apt-on-cd can do that
[20:00] <OerHeks> !offline
[20:01] <k-stz`> great, hope its as simple as that
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> trism: thanks. Was worried for a while
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> k-stz`: if you copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives you can install them on another system
[20:07] <cylonmath> Guys after installing nvidia-driver package for my GTX560, i get blank screen, however, if i start the system with "recovery mode" and then "resume normal boot" i can get login screen. Whats going on?
[20:07] <blubaustin> hello
[20:08] <blubaustin> I have a amd 750k cpu on a asus a88x pro and I need lm-sensors 3.3.5 with r6216, r6237 patches or the latest trunk
[20:09] <blubaustin> how can I do that?
[20:09] <blubaustin> I am running the latest kernel on ubuntu 14.04
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> cylonmath: does the system have a make and model?
[20:10] <cylonmath> Linux cylonbasestar 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> cylonmath: or do you know the CPU?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> cylonmath: is the system a laptop?
[20:11] <cylonmath> ActionParsnip:  a desktop with i7 processor
[20:11] <mac_nibblet> I just purchased a gigabyte brix iris pro and installed 14.04 LTS and for some reason the latest kernel causes a kernel panic at boot
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> cylonmath: which i7 please?
[20:11] <mac_nibblet> but the older kernel installed works fine
[20:11] <k-stz`> cylonmath: i installed my driver (gtx650) using nvidia's linux driver, maybe give it a try?
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: id love one of those.
[20:12] <cylonmath> ActionParsnip: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
[20:12] <mac_nibblet> ActionParsnip: they are pretty dam amazing
[20:12] <mac_nibblet> ActionParsnip: i bought one on my company to use for prototyping stuff
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: cheap too
[20:12] <mac_nibblet> ActionParsnip: i like the fact it fits in my palm
[20:13] <cylonmath> I'll try a reboot...
[20:13] <mac_nibblet> really convienient when you need a bit more power then a laptop
[20:13] <san13> cylonmath whats ur exact need?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: i have a tronsmart s89 which is equally small.
[20:13] <mac_nibblet> but any how, suggestions on how to debug the kernel panic ?
[20:13]  * mac_nibblet has not messed with kernels since my time with gentoo
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Cylonmath: seems to be a switching gpu setup as your cpu has an Intel GPU in it
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: tried the kernel ppa, install the newest kernel may help
[20:14] <blubaustin> or compile a custom one
[20:14] <mac_nibblet> ActionParsnip: itäs the latest one that is causing the KP
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: from the kernel ppa?
[20:15] <mac_nibblet> by latest i mean 3.13.0-29-generic
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> mac_nibblet: there is newer
[20:16] <cylonmath> It works now. In the guide it didnt mention i should run "nvidia-xconfig" for generating xorg.conf...
[20:16] <mac_nibblet> hmm, shouldn't that be available via dist-upgrade then ?
[20:18] <meek_geek> anyone using amd c-60 apu here?
[20:19] <bekks> meek_geek: Why?
[20:19] <meek_geek> I need to knw how to fix the prop. drivers so that they work fine just like in Windows
[20:20] <meek_geek> opensource one sucks
[20:22] <meek_geek> bekks, the driver says it requires Xorg/Xserver 7.4 and above upto 1.14
[20:22] <meek_geek> but latest has 1.15.1
[20:22] <meek_geek> hw to go back ?
[20:28] <Pritchard> Does anyone here use Ubuntu within a Parallels VM?  I need to do some network scanning, but as far as I can tell, Ubuntu/Parallels are mapping my WiFi to a wired ethernet connection only.
[20:29] <daftykins> Pritchard: you can't scan for wireless networks with a VM
[20:30] <Pritchard> daftykins:  Ah.
[20:30] <teward> Pritchard, a VM doesn't read your wifi card as a wifi adapter, it's always going to treat it as a direct connection.
[20:30] <daftykins> Pritchard: you would need virt tech that allows passing the wifi device through to the VM to use natively, which would then take it away from the host OS
[20:31] <Pritchard> Thanks.
[20:31] <daftykins> Pritchard: you probably want to use a pen testing liveUSB distro instead
[20:31] <Pritchard> daftykins:  Sounds like it.  Now to try and dig around for an old thumb drive :)
[20:32] <daftykins> ^_^
[20:32] <g0twig> can you help? ./witcher2: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL2-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [22:31] When I tried to install the i386 version of the right package I get this: The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libwayland-egl1-mesa:i386 (>= 10.0.2) but it is not going to be installed o
[20:32] <daftykins> g0twig: your paste got cut off, please use paste.ubuntu.com then link here
[20:33] <g0twig> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687081/
[20:34] <daftykins> g0twig: "you have held broken packages" - pastebin "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:34] <g0twig> daftykins: no special output
[20:35] <g0twig> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687091/
[20:35] <daftykins> g0twig: what host OS version, graphics hardware and driver?
[20:35] <g0twig> daftykins: this has nothing to do with my problem, graphics and driver. I use Ubuntu 14.04 64bit
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:35] <daftykins> g0twig: i still want to know.
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> !find libSDL2-2.0.so.0
[20:36] <g0twig> daftykins: ^^ nvidia 340 binary blob drivers from Xorg Edgers PPA, nvidia gtx 860m (extreme)
[20:36] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: has nothing to do with my issue :D
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: sudo apt-get install libsdl2-2.0-0
[20:36] <blubaustin> >_>
[20:36] <daftykins> g0twig: so, laptop?
[20:36] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: 32-bit game.
[20:37] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: yeah thats the 64bit version
[20:37] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: but I need the 32bit version
[20:37] <g0twig> daftykins: Notebook, yes
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: add ':i386' to the end of the command
[20:37] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: progress further than this has already been stated in the first help question
[20:37] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: Yes I did that, and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687081/
[20:38] <daftykins> g0twig: what does a "sudo apt-get install libwayland-egl1-mesa:i386" report?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Gone?
[20:38] <daftykins> gah.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Meh
[20:38] <g0twig> sry, got cut off... When i try to follow the dependencies, I come to some point where it wants to remove my other packages
[20:39] <g0twig> my 64bit packages, packages that are not related
[20:39] <ryan12345> I've justall installed Ubuntu and I've got 2 Cd's drivers one is a DVD RW, CD RW, and the second one is a DVD ROM but they ain't show. What does this mean can you please help Thanks Ryanb]#
[20:39] <daftykins> g0twig: pastebin output of that please
[20:39] <daftykins> ryan12345: define "don't show"
[20:39] <bekks> ryan12345: did you try inserting a dvd/cd yet?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: run: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive ,do you see the drives?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: did you tell dpkg to add the 32bit arch?
[20:40] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:40] <ryan12345> daftykins: How do you mean by that?
[20:40] <ryan12345> bekks: Yes
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: weird how it wants libwayland....are you using wayland?
[20:40] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: VIA termail is it
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: yes
[20:41] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: no, and I cant. Maybe some packages depend on it
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue please
[20:42] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: OK!
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: did you try pulling down the 32bit debs and installing them manually?
[20:42] <g0twig> eh
[20:42] <g0twig> no
[20:42] <g0twig> Oh
[20:42] <g0twig> I actually got it working
[20:42] <g0twig> Sry, im an idiot..
[20:42] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: thank you
[20:42] <guntbert> g0twig: easy on <enter> please
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> g0twig: no worries, glad you got the gold
[20:43] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Where do I paste it to show you?
[20:43] <g0twig> ActionParsnip: I mean the dependencies, I install them and see how I can install libsdl :X
[20:43] <zaapiel> what package i need to get flash to work on chromium?
[20:43] <guntbert> !paste | ryan12345
[20:43] <zaapiel> what package i need to get flash to work on chromium?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: pastie.org or similar
[20:43] <daftykins> g0twig: apparently it runs better under WINE anyway ;)
[20:43] <g0twig> daftykins: :(
[20:44] <daftykins> g0twig: apparently it's using some nasty Linux wrapper so it's not even really native
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> zaapiel: there is an installer package to pull in the chrome flash. Not sure of the name
[20:44] <ryan12345> LOl who just used ubottu to speak to me when I wasn't even show to/or them
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !find installer
[20:44] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: what about http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: thats fine too
[20:46] <zaapiel> I NEED FLASH FOR PORN
[20:46] <zaapiel> PLEASE HELP
[20:46] <daftykins> don't use chromium then.
[20:46] <zaapiel> lol
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> zaapiel: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[20:46] <zaapiel> ff works
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> zaapiel: or just use chrome. Easier
[20:47] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Lol just open the side of my pc, and one of the cables wern't plugged in :P
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: oh man :-)
[20:47]  * daftykins slaps ryan12345 on the wrist
[20:48] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: I know right i have got a 1tb hdd
[20:48] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: when i was changing hdds eariler i forgot to check if all cables are in lol
[20:49] <ryan12345> daftykins: OUCHHHHHHHH!!!!! ;)
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Lesson learned
[20:49] <daftykins> oh it will be.
[20:49] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: all-ways make sure all cables are in and not out
[20:49] <ryan12345> daftykins: lol
[20:50] <entreri> hello, can someone tell me about the 'sum' command, what does the first and second series of digits mean ?
[20:50] <ryan12345> Ill shall be right back going to check and plug in the cable
[20:50] <guntbert> entreri: where?
[20:50] <nova> supd
[20:51] <nova> what are we doing today?
[20:51] <guntbert> !ot | nova
[20:51] <entreri> guntbert, using the 'sum' command, it output<PHONE_NUMBER>527 filename
[20:51] <nova> thx bot i got that
[20:52] <entreri> so I was wondering what the first and second series of digits mean, which one is the one to read to check the sum of 2 files
[20:52] <guntbert> entreri: try   man sum, it will tell you
[20:52] <pavlos> entreri, Print checksum and block counts for each FILE.
[20:54] <Squ4lli> Hello I'm using ubuntu 14.04, but i've never managed to get worked my TNT tv card can you help me?
[20:54] <Squ4lli> Whereas it works on windows
[20:55] <entreri> pavlos, ok, so I did that on a file in a CD disk mount-point, and its copy on my local disk, to see if they were copied exactly the same. The file on disk prints '02119 138842 Track 1', its copy prints '00175 138842 Track 1'
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Squ4lli: thats because in Windows you set it up.... Doesnt mean anything
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Squ4lli: is it pci based (internal) or usb based?
[20:56] <entreri> pavlos, the first digit series is not the same, so does that mean they're not identical copies ?
[20:56] <Squ4lli> Pci
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Squ4lli: if you run: lspci ,one line will identify the card, what is it please?
[20:57] <Squ4lli> Can i copy the line without be kicked?
[20:57] <Squ4lli> I don't know how to proceed
[20:57] <webnet> when in doubt pastebin
[20:57] <ianorlin> !paste
[20:57] <Squ4lli> http://pastebin.com/aHDJh868
[20:58] <Squ4lli> ok
[20:59] <Squ4lli> I had never found the firmware or something
[21:03] <Dr_Dan> Q:  why does xsane take so long to come up?  It seems to be 'scanning for devices' forever and ever.  Log shows sane runs the 'hpaio' driver but my network scanner is not found.  Devics is an HP Envy 'all-in-one' connected via WiFi.  I can print. I can ping it.  Just wont scan
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Squ4lli: then look for guides for a philips SAA7134 under Linux
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Squ4lli: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88362/how-to-make-phillips-saa713x-tv-tuner-card-work for example
[21:06] <mkdmz> How do permanently add a directory to my path, I'm looking at this top solution, http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path, but I don't know how I would use that solution to add my own directory, where do I put my directory in that solution?
[21:07] <Squ4lli> I'll try that, thanks
[21:07] <mkdmz> I'm not sure if it means that I shold be editing .profile or what?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> mkdmz: if you add it in /etc/environment it will apply systemwide
[21:10] <mkdmz> ActionParsnip: This is an installation script and I don't want it ran as root
[21:10] <mkdmz> or sudo
[21:11] <ryan12345> Hello i'm back
[21:12] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Hello i'm back
[21:12] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Here is the differennce now - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687246/
[21:13] <ryan12345> Oh yeah does paste.ubuntu.com delete every paste
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: i believe after a while, yes
[21:16] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Now here is the difference from this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687246/ to this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687256/
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> ryan12345: cool, all drives present.....
[21:18] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Yes Sir :)
[21:23] <daninoz_> hi, how can i deactivate the hud?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> daninoz_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[21:26] <daninoz_> ActionParsnip, I did that but it's still working, should I reset?
[21:26] <ryan12345> daninoz_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> daninoz_: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:27] <ryan12345> ActionParsnip: Take care I'll see you later or something
[21:27] <daninoz_> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[21:27] <skinux> I know it's an unofficial package, but does latest version of NetFlix Desktop launch using a built-in/border-less Firefox browser?
[21:27] <daninoz_> \n \l
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> daninoz_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1280073
[21:28] <ryan12345> bye ubottu
[21:29] <ryan12345> bye ubuntu
[21:29] <ryan12345> bye everyone
[21:31] <VinceN> Cyah
[21:31] <daninoz_> ActionParsnip, thanks, I changed it with dconf-editor
[21:32] <VinceN> So I have what I think is a network routing issue.  I have a server running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with a OpenVPN server.  I've configured the server and connected too it from a windows 7 machine.  I try to route traffic out through the VPN but it isn't getting out to the network.
[21:33] <VinceN> I can ping and surf to local resources on the server however so I'm sure the VPN is fine.  The issue is with my routing.
[21:33] <VinceN> Can someone point me in the direction to troubleshoot this?
[21:35] <Sunstream> Hello
[21:35] <VinceN> Hi
[21:36] <Sunstream> I am surprised with Ubuntu, unlike Windows XP I can actually use my Kindle the way I wanted to I can back up my device
[21:37] <Sunstream> I can put files on it take files off it XP I couldnt do that
[21:37] <OerHeks> :-)
[21:38] <Sunstream> I noticed one thing Kindles are Androids which have the same setup as linux lol
[21:39] <Sunstream> Rather they are modified Androids
[21:39] <Sunstream> I think I will never go back to windows
[21:40] <Sunstream> I think I am a Linux man now
[21:42] <bprompt__> hhmmm
[21:42] <bprompt__> Sunstream:    I can mount android as storage on either OS
[21:43] <bprompt__> or run the android debug machine on either at the terminal
[21:43] <Sunstream> i couldn't get it to work on xp home
[21:43] <bprompt__> Sunstream:     hmm... hmm   can't say.... I've mounted mine on xp pro
[21:44] <mkdmz> Is there an official place to store icons in the users home dir?
[21:44] <Sunstream> XP Pro is a much better OS than XP Home
[21:45] <Sunstream> but both are at EOL
[21:45] <espher> hey
[21:45] <Sunstream> Vista is right out for me to use
[21:45] <bprompt__> mkdmz:     gtk themes files are usually stored at ~/.icons
[21:45] <Sunstream> I loath Vista as much as windows ME
[21:46] <Sunstream> Windows 7 is good but requires 2x memory
[21:46] <espher> does anyone know how to join a different server_
[21:46] <Sunstream> than I got
[21:46] <Jethroew> did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[21:46] <Sunstream> So I said Ubuntu
[21:46] <bprompt__> Sunstream:    hehehe, depends, feature wise... depends... has more networking tools, yes... but for mounting storage, they're pretty much the same =)
[21:47] <Jethroew> !ops | did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[21:47] <Sunstream> not really XP Home wouldnt mount android or kindle but Ubuntu did
[21:47] <Sunstream> does
[21:47] <bprompt__> Jethroew:    that just means he'll need psychotherapy for a few months
[21:47] <Jethroew> bprompt__, what if Bieber saw selena naked?
[21:47] <bprompt__> Jethroew:     wel.. what if there's water in mars?
[21:48] <mkdmz> bprompt__: I need to do two things:  (1) give Destkop Shortcut a clue where to look for it's app icon.   I'm not a bot btw --
[21:53] <bprompt__> mkdmz:      system wide...  I know that /usr/share/pixmaps   or /usr/share/icons  are two spots most window managers look into
[21:53] <Guest37566> set
[21:54] <Guest37566> how do i set my nick on here
[21:54] <VinceN> Would someone mind taking a look at this and see if this looks right for OpenVPN traffic forwarding?
[21:54] <VinceN> http://pastebin.com/17E6S6d9
[21:54] <OerHeks> !register | Guest37566
[21:54] <Guest37566> !register kyle
[21:54] <Sunstream> !register Sunstream
[21:54] <Guest37566> !register
[21:55] <Sunstream> Oh
[21:55] <k1l> Guest37566: please read the bots message
[21:55] <mkdmz> bprompt__: The desktop Entry found it in .icons, so that part works now.  Should I copy the theme folders to icons and just place my mimetype icons there?
[21:55] <Sunstream> is freenode ubuntu?
[21:55] <k1l> Sunstream: is a irc-network a operating system?
[21:56] <kitakami> ok, thank you k1l
[21:56] <mkdmz> bprompt__:  I know what I'm doing works if I sudo cp the icon to the /usr/share/icons/theme/... but I don't want the user to have to install these mimetypes as sudo
[21:56] <Sunstream> no it was showing info with "!register" like it was
[21:56] <kitakami> I need help someone....
[21:56] <mkdmz> bprompt__: But I need each theme ot be updated
[21:56] <Sunstream> there are evedn "ubuntu servers" listen in xchant
[21:57] <mkdmz> bprompt__: with the mimetype icons for that user who install my program
[21:57] <kitakami> between last night and this morning.....my ubuntu desktop is giving me problems
[21:57] <kitakami> my menu bar at the top of the screen and my application menus are transparent
[21:57] <k1l> Sunstream: they are just links to freenode.
[21:57] <kitakami> blurring over each other
[21:58] <kitakami> I have tried every search possible and tried every suggestion
[21:58] <kitakami> arrgghh
[22:00] <OerHeks> kitakami, have you been messing around with unity-tweak ?
[22:00] <kitakami> OerHeks, to try and fix the problem, i searched around and installed unity-tweak, but it didn't fix the problem
[22:01] <kitakami> I didn't have it installed before the problem, though
[22:02] <kitakami> this is really frustrating
[22:02] <kitakami> I just want my basic menu back
[22:03] <Sunstream> I wonder what concidered a version upgrade for Ubuntu. there is 14 versions so far. I wonder if there is a history somewhere
[22:03] <Sunstream> !history
[22:03] <k1l> !releases | Sunstream
[22:04] <Sunstream> LTS 5 years?
[22:04] <k1l> yes
[22:04] <k1l> Sunstream: see the links the bot gave you
[22:04] <Sunstream> Okay I assumed "LTS= Long Term Support"
[22:05] <Sunstream> waiting for them to open
[22:05] <sydney> Sunstream: yes,you are correct. :D
[22:05] <k1l> it is Long Term Support. that is why it got 5 years support instead of 9 month.
[22:05] <Sunstream> I have a very slow system
[22:06] <Sunstream> I am kinda quick on the codes
[22:06] <mkdmz> Is there a mime database that I can update for just the user?
[22:06] <Sunstream> Why do you want to find a mime? They say nothing and are almost as scary as clowns lol
[22:06] <mkdmz> This command:  update-mime-database needs a path, and I just want to update the current users mimes
[22:07] <Aaraigathor> Hello, I'm having a persistant issue with my mouse cursor going invisible but still able to move it and function, just can't see it. Happens often when using terminal or closing some games. Only solution seems to be rebooting or restarting lightdm. On Ubuntu 14.04, can someone help me out?
[22:08] <sydney> Sunstream: So you want to install ubuntu 14.04 on a slow system?
[22:08] <Sunstream> Some of the versions in the table do not have a EOL date
[22:09] <Sunstream> like 12.10 on one spot but I scroll down and it shows it
[22:09] <k1l> Sunstream: ??
[22:09] <k1l> Sunstream: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[22:10] <Aaraigathor> Hello, I'm having a persistant issue with my mouse cursor going invisible but still able to move it and function, just can't see it. Happens often when using terminal or closing some games. Only solution seems to be rebooting or restarting lightdm. On Ubuntu 14.04, can someone help me out?
[22:10] <Sunstream> 12.04.1 12.04.2 12.04.3 all do not show a EOL under current
[22:10] <Sunstream> I assume they are 5 years
[22:10] <k1l> Sunstream: the "point releases" are like servicepacks from windows.
[22:10] <k1l> they dont have a EOL since the become the next point release with regular updates
[22:10] <Sunstream> Nods so they go on the original date of the main
[22:11] <Sunstream> so they all end on April 26, 2017
[22:11] <k1l> yes
[22:11] <ki7mt> Yes, APR 2017
[22:11] <Sunstream> Since the 12.04 LTS was relased then
[22:12] <Sunstream> Okay so how do I update or get to a beta test of the future release?
[22:12] <Sunstream> Or do I have to sign up for that like I did for Windows 8
[22:12] <k1l> !beta | Sunstream but be aware the alpha/betas are for experineced users and will cause you some issues
[22:12] <sydney> Sunstream: So,what do you want to do exactly? Upgrade a system,or do a fresh install?
[22:13] <sydney> Sunstream: Or try a beta?
[22:13] <bprompt> Sunstream:   if it ain't broken, don't fix it :P~
[22:13] <Sunstream> Yeah
[22:13] <Sunstream> Yep
[22:13] <sydney> Sunstream: yep to which one? ;)
[22:13] <Sunstream> I wonder if 12.04.4 will run faster than 14.04 on my 512 MB system
[22:14] <sydney> Sunstream: ahh
[22:14] <sydney> Sunstream: If you want speed,go with lubuntu 14.04
[22:14] <k1l> Sunstream: if you got a low spec pc try lubuntu
[22:14] <ki7mt> Sunstream, you may want to ask in ubuntu+1 for 14.10 .. just a  word of caution, it's very unstable at the moment.
[22:14] <Ethos> when is Ubuntu Phone being released?
[22:14] <Sunstream> No I rather remain stable.
[22:14] <k1l> !touch | Ethos
[22:15] <Aaraigathor> I'm having a persistant issue with my mouse cursor going invisible but still able to move it and function, just can't see it. Happens often when using terminal or closing some games. Only solution seems to be rebooting or restarting lightdm. On Ubuntu 14.04, can someone help me out?
[22:15] <Sunstream> ki7mt? is that a Ham Call sign?
[22:15] <ki7mt> Sunstream, then 14.04 is probably your best bet, either Xub, Lub or Ub depending on sys resources.
[22:15] <pooriya> hi
[22:15] <Ethos> k1l: thanks
[22:15] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, call sign
[22:15] <k1l> Sunstream: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chating
[22:15] <Sunstream> I am AD7BK
[22:16] <Aaraigathor> va3uod here
[22:16] <Sunstream> -_-
[22:16] <pooriya> i have problem with my suspend in my 14.04 , what should i do ?
[22:16] <Ethos> how do I get soundicon back on the taskbar, in Gnome (ubuntu)
[22:16] <sydney> Sunstream: Lubuntu would be your best option for speed on you 512mb computer.
[22:16] <ki7mt> !details
[22:17] <Aaraigathor> I'm having a persistant issue with my mouse cursor going invisible but still able to move it and function, just can't see it. Happens often when using terminal or closing some games. Only solution seems to be rebooting or restarting lightdm. On Ubuntu 14.04, can someone help me out?
[22:18] <k1l> Aaraigathor: search for known bugs on launchpad.net
[22:18] <Ethos> Aaraigathor: Check your graphics drivers are installed properly, and it can be opengl issue.
[22:18] <sydney> !patience|Aaraigathor
[22:18] <Sunstream> Okay, I already have Ubuntu installed, to install lubuntu, can I install it alongside this insta.l of ubuntu
[22:19] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, sud a-t-get install lubuntu-desktop
[22:19] <ki7mt> whoops apt-get install .. ..
[22:19] <pooriya> whe i choose susbend its say : some device fauil to susbend
[22:19] <Sunstream> ki7mt are you in Montana?
[22:19] <Sunstream> pooriya, got things hooked up via USB?
[22:19] <ki7mt> pooriya, does it say which device ?
[22:20] <Aaraigathor> ubottu: Sorry for coming off impatient, been looking for an answer for almost 2 weeks with no luck and been in here 4 times now with no help. Ethos: Tried a few different drivers and no apparent change. Tried changing mice as well.
[22:20] <pooriya> no its say nothing  , then it back too my login page
[22:20] <sydney> Sunstream: So,in terminal,run 'sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop' As ki7mt  said :D
[22:20] <Sunstream> will this mess up my current install?
[22:20] <sydney> Sunstream: No,it wont
[22:20] <ki7mt> No
[22:20] <Sunstream> ok
[22:21] <Sunstream> I will do this in a bit
[22:21] <Sunstream> So all this will do is change me from ubu to lubu?
[22:21] <sydney> Sunstream: Yes,you will have to log out,select lubuntu,then log back in.
[22:22] <k1l> Sunstream: after install you can change the Desktop to lubunut on login screen
[22:22] <Sunstream> Oh ok
[22:22] <ki7mt> Sunstream, you can also try others, xubuntu-desktop, razorqt both are lightweight DE's
[22:22] <Aaraigathor> Ethos: I tried a few different driver versions with the same outcome. I went back to an even further version and it seemed to be fixed then 2 days later I'm back to the same problem. Any other suggestions how to fix? Thanks
[22:22] <Sunstream> which of these are stable?
[22:22] <pooriya> what shoald i do guys ? :(
[22:23] <Sunstream> Pooriya, Try removing various USB things in order
[22:23] <ki7mt> Sunstream, all of them in the repo's are as stable as they can make them, but there's always updates and bug fixes
[22:23] <Sunstream> An USB device could cause a fail
[22:23] <pooriya> i ttry that but not work
[22:24] <pooriya> when i update ubuntu , its happen
[22:25] <ki7mt> pooriya, which version of Ubuntu?
[22:25] <Sunstream> okay Xubuntu and what else (too much scrolling going on)
[22:25] <pooriya> 14.04
[22:25] <sydney> Sunstream: you are using unity at the moment,right?
[22:25] <Sunstream> yes
[22:25] <Sunstream> afaik I am
[22:25] <sydney> Sunstream: there is lubuntu,xubuntu,kubuntu,gnome.....
[22:26] <Sunstream> So I can install all of these and try each one?
[22:26] <sydney> Sunstream: lubuntu would work the best,because it is the lightest of them all.
[22:26] <Sunstream> Okay I am installing them
[22:27] <Sunstream> this one first
[22:27] <Sunstream> So Do i need to reboot? or jsut log out and change Desktops
[22:28] <sydney> Sunstream: Start with trying one.;) Just log out.
[22:28] <Sunstream> Okay lubuntu is being worked on installing at the current moment
[22:28] <ki7mt> Sunstream, examples: http://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/
[22:28] <Sunstream> lubuntu will keep my system with all features but less what?
[22:29] <ki7mt> There's actually more, but those are the standard DE's
[22:29] <pooriya> plz help me
[22:29] <sydney> Sunstream: nIt will keep everything.
[22:29] <sydney> it*
[22:29] <sydney> Sunstream: It will just be faster.
[22:31] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Here's a bit more info ion DE's: http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux/kde-gnome-or-xfce
[22:35] <sydney> Sunstream: Hows it coming?
[22:36] <Aaraigathor> I'm having a persistant issue with my mouse cursor going invisible but still able to move it and function, just can't see it. Happens often when using terminal or closing some games. Only solution seems to be rebooting or restarting lightdm. On Ubuntu 14.04, can someone help me out?
[22:37] <sydney> Aaraigathor: I am not sure how to help.Can you give us more info? What version are you running?
[22:37] <Aaraigathor> sydney: driver version?
[22:37] <sydney> Aaraigathor: ubuntu version. ;)
[22:38] <sydney> Aaraigathor: duh me :P
[22:38] <Sunstream> Still working on installing lubuntu
[22:38] <Aaraigathor> sydney: It was stated in my request for help. Ubuntu 14.04
[22:38] <sydney> Aaraigathor: duh me :P Hmm,not sure.
[22:39] <Aaraigathor> sydney: I've tried a few different graphics driver versions as well as different mice, no luck
[22:39] <ki7mt> !patience | Aaraigathor
[22:40] <Aaraigathor> ...?
[22:41] <ki7mt> re: you question about the mouse issue .. if sombody know the answer or how to solve it, they will most likely answer you.
[22:41] <Aaraigathor> I was providing more information on what I have tried so that someone may better understand how to help me.
[22:42] <max__> ciao
[22:42] <Sunstream> It is setting up like a million sthings it looks like
[22:42] <Guest3717> c'è qualcuno
[22:42] <Guest3717> ?
[22:42] <ki7mt> Aaraigathor,  Your problem statement is pretty clear, the solution on the other hand, may not be.
[22:42] <Guest3717> I don't speak english
[22:43] <ki7mt> what language do you speak ?
[22:43] <Guest3717> italian
[22:43] <rsw> im still running ubuntu 12.04, running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop results in a list of dependencies that wont be installed.  is there a way around it?
[22:44] <Sunstream> wow it is not finding packages and is this gonna be an issue
[22:44] <ki7mt> Guest3717, join #ubuntu-it
[22:44] <Guest3717> is there someone that speaks italian?
[22:44] <sydney> Sunstream: What do you mean?
[22:45] <Sunstream> abuse:package not found arkose-gui:package not found
[22:45] <Guest3717> Hoe much you are here?
[22:45] <Guest3717> How, sorry
[22:46] <Sunstream> prefixsuffix: package not found dia-gnomeler-app: package not found
[22:46] <Sunstream> this is in the terminal
[22:46] <Guest3717> ahahhahahahahahahahah you speak only of software
[22:46] <sydney> Guest3717: There are some people who speak Italian  in #ubuntu-it
[22:46] <Sunstream> Okay strange why is it looking for emulators
[22:46] <k1l> !paste | Sunstream
[22:46] <Guest3717> oh thank you very much sydney
[22:47] <Sunstream> its just a few things things i see in the install output in the terminal
[22:47] <Sunstream> byt why is it looking for mame and mess I do not have those installed
[22:47] <yigal> This isn't Ubuntu specific, but I'm trying to authenticate with my Time Warner Cable modem an Arris DG860 using cURL, so I can determine the WAN IP from querying it.  Has anyone here done this successfully before?
[22:48] <DaveD0101> Hi all. Anyone had an issue with getting gnome to remember a multi-monitor arrangement?
[22:48] <yigal> I happen to be using Ubuntu - atm.
[22:48] <sydney> Guest3717: you can type in "/join #ubuntu-it" without the parentheses.
[22:48] <sydney> Guest3717: And that will take you there.
[22:48] <pooriya> System won't suspend after upgrading to 14.04
[22:48] <yigal> DaveD0101: what version of GNOME?
[22:48] <pooriya> what shoud i do?
[22:49] <yigal> pooriya: when you attempt to suspend what happens?
[22:49] <rsw> ok, is there a support channel for older versions of ubuntu, specifically 12.04?
[22:49] <Guest3717> sydney you are very nice, thank you
[22:49] <Sunstream> setting up wvdial (1.61-4.1_ ...  (next line) Sorry, You can retry the autodetection at any time by running "wvdialconf" (Orupi cam create /etc/wvdial.conf yourself.) What in the world does that man?
[22:49] <Sunstream> mean*
[22:50] <pooriya> its say some devices fail to suspend and get back too  login page
[22:50] <wysiwit> hello :)
[22:50] <sydney> Sunstream: Just sit back and wait for it to finish.
[22:50] <Sunstream> !details wvdial
[22:50] <DaveD0101> yigal, 3.9.9
[22:50] <sydney> Guest3717: No problem. :D
[22:50] <Guest3717> ^_^
[22:50] <ki7mt> pooriya, Is this the issue your seeing?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[22:51] <Sunstream> Well I am not messing with the install. I just never seen thishappen on a Linux install
[22:51] <wysiwit> hi, how can i keep my system clean, new ssd installed, i don't wanna use bleachbit! thanks.
[22:51] <ki7mt> pooriya, is yes, then light-locker and light-locker-settings, and try installing : xscreensaver
[22:52] <pooriya> no no , my pc dont go on blank , it,s not suspending
[22:52] <ki7mt> then, remove light-locker and light-locker-settings and installing xscreensaver
[22:52] <sydney> Sunstream: :D
[22:52] <Sunstream> okay now it is is done
[22:52] <Vo1d> where is depth color configuration en trusty tahr?
[22:52] <sydney> Sunstream: I learn about new packages every day. :D
[22:53] <pooriya> tnx i try it
[22:53] <Sunstream> it is back at suntop@MACHINENAME:~$ so now I should log out and back in?
[22:53] <DaveD0101> I've tried the regular Displays settings. That works until reboot. I've tried editing the X offsets in monitors.xml. That doesn't seem to do anything at all. I've edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually and with the nvidia control panel. Those settings don't persist through reboot either.
[22:53] <Jordan_U> wysiwit: "clean" in what sense?
[22:53] <Aaraigathor> pooriya: Change the 'DRIVERS' line from: DRIVERS="ehci xhci" to: DRIVERS="uhci_hcd xhci_hcd" as was the case in the '/sys/bus/pci/drivers' directory.  Then edit the file '/etc/default/grub' (as root), changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_sleep=nonvs".  Then running sudo update-grub. Might work
[22:53] <sydney> Sunstream: Yes,log out,select lubuntu,then log back in. :D
[22:53] <Sunstream> okay
[22:54] <bprompt> Sunstream:   maybe just reboot, and at the login screen, choose "lxwm" as the windows session manager
[22:54] <wysiwit> Jordan_U hi ty um anything i should do or run?  i'm just use 2 windows mess.
[22:55] <ki7mt> pooriya, If it's not the black screen, it could be an acpi driver issue, but probably best to exhaust all other possibilities first.
[22:55] <wysiwit> Jordan_U fresh install here any good advice or links?
[22:55] <kingplusplus> please what is your favourite alternative to truecrypt on Ubuntu?
[22:57] <ki7mt> kingplusplus, GnuPG
[22:57] <shaddowed> when will nautilus be fixed? especially the disappearing copy dialog?
[22:59] <OerHeks> shaddowed, do you want the dialog to stay open after copying is done?
[23:00] <shaddowed> no, i want to be able to restore it without opening another nautilus instance
[23:01] <Flopy> HOla!
[23:01] <shaddowed> this is bug im talking about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1170647
[23:01] <xexaxo> exit
[23:01] <xexaxo> ;\
[23:02] <OerHeks> shaddowed, what ubuntu version are you using? no problem here on 14.04
[23:03] <shaddowed> OerHeks, 14.04, you can trigger it easily when you copy something from a ntfs formated pendrive for example
[23:05] <OerHeks> well, confirm that bugreport if you think it is still valid. i can't reproduce it.
[23:05] <milad191> what does the command "don't" do in terminal ?
[23:05] <shaddowed> OerHeks, ok, will do
[23:06] <DaveD0101> anyone have any experience with multimonitor arrangements resetting after reboot?
[23:07] <ki7mt> milad191, nothing, it's expecting a closing " ' " mark thus the reason you get > prompt.
[23:07] <OerHeks> oerheks@oerheks:~$  "don't"
[23:07] <OerHeks> don't: command not found
[23:08] <Sunstream> Thank you ki7mt, Sydney
[23:08] <Sunstream> everything runs much fster
[23:08] <Sunstream> faster
[23:08] <sydney> Sunstream: Its working properly?
[23:09] <milad191> thanks ki7mt
[23:09] <sydney> Sunstream: It changes a few things around,such as when you resume from standby and power options. :D
[23:09] <ki7mt> milad191, for parameter expansion, double quote "$somevar" for literal expansion, use singles 'some literaltest'
[23:10] <Sunstream> I can watch DVDs now
[23:10] <milad191> ok ki7mt
[23:11] <sydney> Sunstream: you couldnt earlier?
[23:11] <Sunstream> I don't care about that I wanted to get mthe DVDs to play
[23:11] <Sunstream> no
[23:11] <Sunstream> Unity takes up too much resources
[23:12] <milad191> thank youuuuuu
[23:12] <milad191> sorry
[23:12] <Aaraigathor> I'm having a persistant issue with my mouse cursor going invisible but still able to move it and function, just can't see it. Happens often when using terminal or closing some games. Only solution seems to be rebooting or restarting lightdm. Have tried different graphics drivers and mice. Using GeForce 7600gt SLI. On Ubuntu 14.04, can someone help me out?
[23:12] <sydney> Sunstream:  :D Have fun with lubuntu :D
[23:12] <whitepowder> Hello all! I need to intall 12.04.4 from a usb stick, preferably something similar to the hd-media stuff. I've got 2 partitions, one fat16 and one btrfs (i could just as easily use something else linux friendly). The goal is to be able to modify preseed and add packages easily, and yes i *have* to use 12.04.4
[23:12] <sydney> Sunstream: Im going to be away from my keyboard for a while,bye!!
[23:13] <Sunstream> I tested my emulator and it too worked
[23:13] <rsw> how far are you in this process whitepowder
[23:14] <whitepowder> I currently use syslinux as my loader, since it works on more machines i've tried than grub2/grub legacy
[23:15] <whitepowder> rsw: Right now, i've pulled initrd and vmlinuz out of iso's /install/ dir, put the iso in my fat16 part and gotten syslinux to boot it, however even with iso-scan/filename=/iso/kubuntu-12.04.4-alternate-amd64.iso i'm told the cdrom isnt usable
[23:16] <whitepowder> From what i've found googling, there seem to be problems in hd-media occuring sometime after 11.x. I'm not dead set on hd-media, but i'd really like to keep preseed file on a fat16 partition so that it can be modified from a windows machine (or the copy of freedos i've gotten working on here)
[23:16] <jak2001> hi all, i have been installed/configured, openssh, my question is how to access via FTP via SSH? thanks  or you recommend install vsftpd?
[23:17] <SchrodingersScat> jak2001: try sftp, should come with ssh, try sftp user@machine
[23:17] <ki7mt> jak2001, read man sftp
[23:18] <ki7mt> jak2001, from the man page ; Once in interactive mode, sftp understands a set of commands similar to those of ftp
[23:20] <jak2001> Schnabeltierchen, ki7mt but how to connect via Windows, windows havent a sftp command
[23:21] <ki7mt> jak2001, Use a program suck as PuTTY for Windows to *Nix
[23:21] <ki7mt> whhops, such as :-)
[23:22] <ki7mt> jak2001, Link to PuTTY: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[23:24] <jak2001> ok
[23:24] <Jordan_U> wysiwit: You still haven't said in what sense you want your system "clean", but I think the answer is that you don't really need to do anything special at all.
[23:24] <whitepowder> rsw: Definitely got some leads -- in Particular this makes me suspect that theres a problem in anna/d-i --- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/installation-guide/+bug/1221356
[23:25] <Sunstream> It is runninf way way faster
[23:25] <Sunstream> I never seen it run this dast
[23:25] <Sunstream> fast
[23:26] <Sunstream> Thank you for the suggestion ai7mt and syndey
[23:28] <whitepowder> Also another concern i've got-- 12.04.4 is an LTS release-- This means that the kernel version will stay the same, correct? Newer kernels wont work with a driver that i need (tw68-v2 for techwell tw6804 chips)
[23:28] <Jordan_U> whitepowder: I think that iso-scan/filename= is for Live media only, not for alternate/server/anything using d-i.
[23:29] <k1l> whitepowder: if you dont use a newer lts-kernel from the enablement stack there will be no major kernel change
[23:29] <whitepowder> Jordan_U: Originally i had a desktop iso, had similar issue but different message
[23:30] <whitepowder> k1l: Great, thanks. That was my hope with going back to the last LTS that worked for this machine. 14.04 i couldnt get the driver to compile, after a bit of hacking on it, still no luck and just said heck with it i'll go back to 12.04
[23:30] <Jordan_U> whitepowder: What is the exact configuration you used with the live iso, and what was the exact error message?
[23:30] <whitepowder> Jordan_U: Give me a few, i'll copy that iso back onto the usb stick and try it again
[23:31] <whitepowder> Actually, give me a long while :( Deleted it since didnt work
[23:31] <whitepowder> Jordan_U: Will -desktop (live) work with preseeding?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> whitepowder: If you can, please follow http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F as that way I'll know that the configuration is sound (at least as a starting point).
[23:32] <Jordan_U> whitepowder: I don't know.
[23:35] <whitepowder> Jordan_U: Pretty sure not, but it's downloading and while I wait, i suppose i can try to get a chainloaded grub2 on here
[23:36] <dfrey> How do I figure out why I'm getting "The system is running in low-graphics mode" message when X starts?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> whitepowder: It's not critical that grub be used, it's just that if you're using the loopback.cfg shipped on the iso you know that if the kernel gets loaded at all, the right kernel parameters have also been passed. You can also just look at the loopback.cfg and make sure you're passing the same kernel parameters.
[23:38] <testing22> so i’m using ubuntu 12.04 with curl 7.22 and i’m trying to download a gzipped tarball (tar.gz) and the resulting file is only a tarball. on my workstation (mac) using curl it’s a gzipped tarball (as expected)… i’ve tried —raw, headers, etc. anyone else run in to this issue?
[23:41] <daftykins> testing22: why not wget? :)
[23:41] <Jordan_U> testing22: Please pastebin the exact commands you're running.
[23:41] <testing22> i’ve tried wget as well, same exact result
[23:41] <testing22> only started happening recently too
[23:41] <whitepowder> Jordan_U: An even better option for me would be to ditch the iso file and have a local partial mirror on the usb stick, maybe on the second (btrfs or ext[234]) partition. Any thoughts on how that could work out? I'm thinking maybe net install image and my preseed file set to use file:/// mirror? Just some thoughts that would make my life massively easier
[23:44] <testing22> daftykins Jordan_U: http://pastie.org/private/umgp4wijk8lojbsjoep9hq
[23:49] <testing22> happening on four different servers i’ve tried it on
[23:49] <testing22> i can tar xf it, not zxf
[23:50] <daftykins> testing22: i wonder if it's because you're specifying the file output
[23:50] <testing22> but on my mac, i run the same command and it works correctly, same libs and everything
[23:50] <testing22> zlib, etc
[23:50] <daftykins> mac != Linux
[23:50] <whitepowder> What does file filename say about it?
[23:51] <testing22> right i understand that
[23:51] <zaapiel> xchat or irssi?
[23:52] <k1l> zaapiel: gui or cli?
[23:52] <zaapiel> gui
[23:52] <zaapiel> runnning stock gnome on ubuntu
[23:52] <k1l> zaapiel: so you have the choice of a native gui client or a cli client in a terminal
[23:52] <zaapiel> k1l: yup
[23:52] <testing22> daftykins: the raw output of the curl command is the tarball, none of it is gzip
[23:53] <k1l> just dont run the "xchat-gnome" but the plain xchat
[23:53] <testing22> (without the output file option)
[23:53] <zaapiel> ill stick with irssi
[23:53] <ki7mt> I like irssi ,, very nice and lots of optional scripts
[23:55] <daftykins> testing22: what do you get if you just "wget <path>" and let it download to your ~ ?
[23:55] <zaapiel> ill try hexchat
[23:55] <whitepowder> irssi++
[23:57] <testing22> daftykins: download successful, but “tar zxvf resultingfile.tar.gz” says “gzip: stdin: not in gzip format”
[23:57] <testing22> i’ve NEVER had an issue using wget or curl to download a tar.gz file....
[23:57] <whitepowder> testing22: whats file say about it?
[23:57] <testing22> i do it daily
[23:57] <testing22> whitepowder: test5.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive
[23:57] <testing22> that’s the file i downloaded without any options
[23:58] <daftykins> sooo... it's not gzipped? :)
[23:58] <testing22> it is though, if i download it on my mac or a centos machine, it’s correct
[23:59] <daftykins> define 'correct'
[23:59] <sydney> Sunstream: So,are you enjoying it so far?
[23:59] <daftykins> sydney: general conversation isn't appropriate here