[08:49] <dr_willis> suna:  you can setup grub2 to boot an iso file. or use vbox and try to install to a real physcal drive
[08:50] <suna> i have the doanload i need
[08:50] <suna> to install windows 7
[08:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: the vbox thing wont work, and I think suna is talking about a windows iso
[08:50] <dr_willis> to install windows? time to ask in #windows
[08:50] <suna> yes i was talking abou that
[08:50] <bazhang> suna, this is ab out windows?
[08:50] <kojul> there's a #windows?
[08:50] <suna> no
[08:51]  * dr_willis thinks its time to restate the question
[08:51] <auronandace> suna: let me get this straight: you are installing win7 in vbox inside a wubi install?
[08:51] <bazhang> kojul, its ##windows
[08:51] <suna> sorry im not good at explaining sutff
[08:51] <suna> time to restart the question ok,
[08:51] <bazhang> suna do it all on ONE line this time
[08:52] <kojul> can grub mount an iso on boot?
[08:52] <dr_willis> grub2 2 can boot an iso file
[08:52] <dr_willis> IF the iso file is setup right
[08:52] <dr_willis> and i doubt windows7 uis
[08:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I concur.
[08:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> kojul: yes, you can boot straight from an iso on hdd using a specially made grub menu
[08:54] <suna> i wanted to install windows 7 in vbox at first becouse i was tired of messing with trying to fix my render3d error for skyrim when i had no problem with it in windows. but if i can fix it without doing that that would be awsome i like ubuntu but i use my pc mostly for gaming and watching videos so thats why i was going too install it with vbox becouse ubuntu doesnt seem to have any drivers to fix that rendering problem for skyrim for my
[08:55] <suna> never had a problem with it
[08:55] <dr_willis> wow.. 4% question.. 96% illrevant info. ;)
[08:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: what kind of machine is it?
[08:55] <dr_willis> Gameing in Vbox - is going to be poor.
[08:56] <suna> sorry about that dr im not good at explaining stuff
[08:56] <auronandace> suna: it seems rather silly to me to install win7 in vbox when you are running a wubi install (you already have windows natively on the machine)
[08:56] <dr_willis> best would be to find an actual fix for youw windows system issues
[08:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> auronandace: os-ception 0_0
[08:56] <marcs1989> Is there a teaser video advertising how awesome gimp is somewhere? I'm trying to demonstrate Linux' awesomeness to a frustrated Windows 8 user.
[08:57] <suna> its a gateway nv59 with a i5 intel proccesor and standard intel grapics card
[08:57] <dr_willis> or just try running skyrim in wine. even then - i bet it will be poor.
[08:57] <theadmin> A VM inside a VM inside a VM
[08:57] <theadmin> marcs1989: That's best done with a LiveCD :P
[08:57] <bazhang> marcs1989, try #gimp
[08:57] <l0tbet> vmception
[08:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> marcs1989: show him the gnome menu. I bet he misses his start button
[08:57] <marcs1989> theadmin: If only I was physically with them!
[08:57] <theadmin> marcs1989: Well, nothing stops you from sending a download link to them.
[08:57] <dr_willis> marcs1989:  i tend to just to impress them by using linux as they watch... and wonder why i dont need to defrag. or av scan.. or how i can install it to 10 pcs for free...
[08:58] <suna> dr i was using wine and playonlinux the first time when trying too play skyrim on my unbuntu computer
[08:58] <kojul> gnome? what's that ? ;)
[08:58] <dr_willis> !gnomr
[08:58] <dr_willis> !gnome
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: he was jokin, see da wink
[08:58] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: To heck with Gnome. Classic environment = Xfce.
[08:58] <dr_willis> Lubuntu!  C64 Geos!
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> kojul: I still have gnome on my precise.
[08:58] <vamp774> Why not just get Skyrim for a console then and keep ubuntu on your PC.  Running it with wine will be poor
[08:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: I rather like my gnome
[08:59] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Well, that's your own choice, but it's no longer the "classic" environment Windows people are used to.
[08:59] <suna> becouse i dont have 250d for a tv and 40dollars for skyrim and then 250d for the xbox
[08:59] <marcs1989> theadmin ntzrtthihu777: They just want to make it look less like a tablet.
[08:59] <kojul> ntzrmtthihu777: I haven't run gnome for 8 years. So I won't talk smack about it, but I'm just a console whore.
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: and I gave [l|x]ubuntu both a try
[08:59] <noobie888> is there an or in an if statement for bash script?
[08:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> noobie888: yup
[09:00] <vamp774> i hear you.  gaming isnt cheap :P
[09:00] <theadmin> noobie888:"an or in an if"... wut
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> if then else fi
[09:00] <suna> having a console in my opinion isnt worth having anymore
[09:00] <suna> you have to buy the tv
[09:00] <suna> then you have to buy the console
[09:00] <bazhang> !ot | suna
[09:00] <kojul> last guy i ran in linux was DWM, and before that it was enlightenment 16.
[09:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: I feel the same, but watch it, FloodBot1 will getcha
[09:00] <kojul> GUI
[09:00] <noobie888> i want to do an if x= or y =0 , bash restartscript
[09:00] <noobie888> 2 values where each of one returns 0
[09:00] <antubiskut> hello
[09:01] <suna> ok sorry i just want to install skyrim on ubuntu
[09:01] <suna> with it connected to steam. if i cannont then i guess ubuntu isnt for me yet
[09:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> noobie888: if [[ "$x" == 0 || "$y" == 0 ]]
[09:01] <ronalds> kojul nice entartainment in terminal right>
[09:01] <theadmin> noobie888: Ah, easy enough: if test $x -eq 0 -o $y -eq 0 ; then bash restartscript ; fi
[09:01] <dr_willis> !appdb | suna
[09:02] <dr_willis> suna:  may be worth checking if skyrim even works in wine.
[09:02] <suna> i had wine installed and had skryim installed
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> suna: pm me if you like, I'm getting to be pretty handy with wine stuff.
[09:02] <kojul> ronalds: I'm also an apple whore for my laptops, and I haven't had a desktop in 3 years. But all my servers are either ubuntu or gentoo.
[09:02] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Um, the "test" binary uses "=" to check for equality, not ==
[09:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: look again, I did not use [ but [[
[09:02] <theadmin> Oh, what's that do?
[09:03] <ronalds> kojul, cause apple has anything more then ubuntu can do..
[09:03] <dr_willis> Includeing the price tag
[09:03] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: In zsh it just gives me "bad pattern"
[09:03] <vamp774> suna: why not dual boot?
[09:03] <antubiskut> i got 1 problem..b4 this im using windows and i dont hav any problem connecting my note 2 to my pc via USB...but for my lappy im using ubuntu 12.10 32bit and im having this issue (unable to mount samsung_android)..sorry im kinda new on linux so dont know much..been searcing on uncle google but cant find the solution...tq..
[09:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: makes things a bit simpler. if $y was empty it would ruin [ with unary operator expected
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: and I am speaking bash not zsh
[09:04] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  for  tranfering files to/from an android phone - i find it very hard to beat  the 'Airdroid' program - I  rarely bother connecting to the pc via USB cable.
[09:04] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Oh, never mind, it works in an if statement... Some crazy syntax thing.
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, its nifty
[09:04] <kojul> ronalds: Well, it does.  External USB mouse works cool. Tried touchpad switch (Fn + F7), displays messages, doesn't help. How to diagnose?
[09:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ#BashFAQ.2BAC8-031.What_is_the_difference_between_test.2C_.5B_and_.5B.5B_.3F
[09:05] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  and the core of the issue is mounting of mtp devices.   which  is still a bit of a work in progress in ubuntu
[09:05] <bazhang> antubiskut, gmtp may work as well
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> !EOL | AlexQ
[09:05] <theadmin> To heck with bash, for anything more or less complicated I'll write a Python script. Or a Perl script.
[09:05] <AlexQ> ntzrmtthihu777: It's not Aprit yet
[09:05] <bazhang> ntzrmtthihu777, 10.04 is not eol
[09:05] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: 10.04 is not eol
[09:05] <kojul> to heck with bash, anyway, zsh ftw.
[09:05] <dr_willis> !info fish
[09:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> AlexQ: soon to be, bay as well jump ship
[09:06] <SilvereX> How would I set pulseaudio enable-remixing to yes?
[09:06] <dr_willis> no one ever seems to use the fish shell.
[09:06] <antubiskut> owhh...i see...so the only solution is using airdroid..
[09:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: I know of it.
[09:06] <SilvereX> my mic doesn't work in steam games but works everywhere else, any apparently it's fixed by setting enable-remixing to yes
[09:06] <bazhang> antubiskut, or gmtp
[09:06] <theadmin> dr_willis: It's fairly uncomfortable because it dumps commonly acknowledged syntax (e.g. "var=value") for some more awkward one (in that case, "set var value")
[09:07] <dr_willis> theadmin:  it does a lot of weirdness.. sadly
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: you for real? that makes me shudder
[09:07] <dr_willis> i know some begeinners that tried it and loved it over bash. :) i dont use it here.
[09:07] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: About what?
[09:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: the fish set var value syntax
[09:07] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah
[09:08] <antubiskut> gmtp??sorry im kinda new on linux so where i can get those??
[09:08] <dr_willis> thats most likely the least of fish's quirks
[09:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: that, my friend, sucks.
[09:08] <six2> hello, hows it goin folks?
[09:08] <theadmin> antubiskut: In Ubuntu, one uses the Software Center to get any app.
[09:09] <theadmin> antubiskut: You can also use the Terminal: sudo apt-get install gmtp
[09:09] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites had some articals on mounting/accessing newer android phones on ubuntu.  worth a read to learn whats going on underneeth.
[09:09] <six2> or 'apt-get install app'
[09:09] <dr_willis> !info gmtp
[09:09] <six2> nm
[09:09] <dr_willis> hmm.  was that what he was asking about? thoght he was acessing a note2
[09:10] <antubiskut> tq...and 1 more thing..where can i learn all sudo tingy command??i would like to learn more on terminal command..
[09:10] <dr_willis> antubiskut:  10000's of bash tutorial sites out there.
[09:10] <megdanov> Hello, i'm having trouble with a driver for my sound missing. Anyone can help ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> !bash | antubiskut
[09:11] <Deathlire> megdanov : what kind of sound card do you have?
[09:11] <SilvereX> How do I set enable-remixing to yes in pulseaudio?
[09:11] <antubiskut> tq..
[09:12] <test1> hello
[09:12] <megdanov> The thing is my laptop has 2 fronts and a mini subwoofer at the bottom(Qosmio X770) . The fronts work, but sub not
[09:13] <AlexQ> ntzrmtthihu777: Don't think upgrade would fix it. xinput --list --long returns only A4 Tech mouse, and on the end, not in Virtual pointer category, there is
[09:13] <AlexQ> "touchpad      	id=6	[floating slave]"
[09:15] <SilvereX> nvm
[09:17] <AlexQ> xinput --test touchpad receives events when I move my finger over the touchpad
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> AlexQ: but in any case soon you won't be able to come bug knowledgable fellows like theadmin and dr_willis about this, so may as well do it ;)
[09:17] <test1> das anyone know the password for ubuntu 12.10 live usb thing
[09:17] <Deathlire> Been lookin up the 770. it doesn't seem to have a very appropriate detail on its sound other than it is a harmon/kardon ...
[09:17] <theadmin> test1: The Ubuntu livecds/usbs don't have a password set. You're not using Ubuntu if you're asked for one. Well, or there was a problem when burning the CD/USB. Might be best to recreate it.
[09:17] <Deathlire> Not seeing a chipset anywhere..so I need more details megdanov
[09:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> test1: there is no password
[09:17] <megdanov> i can give you my Alsa information ?
[09:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> test1: why would you need the password, trying to issue sudo?
[09:18] <Deathlire> megdanov : how about run lsusb in console
[09:18] <theadmin> megdanov: If it's more than 1 line, use http://paste.ubuntu.com , other than that sure.
[09:18] <theadmin> ntzrmtthihu777: "sudo" on the livecd works without a password, too.
[09:19] <Deathlire> or wait..my brains warped lol..forget i said usb
[09:19] <AlexQ> theadmin: dr_willis: xinput --test touchpad returns all moves and all button click with no problem
[09:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> theadmin: yeah, I was gonna tell him that.
[09:19] <theadmin> AlexQ: Uhh, sorry, what's your problem again?
[09:20] <AlexQ> AlexQ: My touchpad stopped working
[09:20] <Deathlire> have to excuse me, I don't run ubuntu lately, just a pure debian you could say. but all the same.
[09:20] <AlexQ> theadmin: My touchpad stopped working
[09:20] <theadmin> AlexQ: ...In my opinion that's a good thing, I wish I could disable mine :/
[09:21] <megdanov> Deathlire, it's ok. , thank you anyway
[09:21] <theadmin> AlexQ: Anyway, check the mouse settings to see if it's disabled there
[09:21] <test1> thank you for good messages
[09:22] <AlexQ> theadmin: But I think that there is something wrong in xinput --list --long http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601355/
[09:23] <AlexQ> look down, at the ~ touchpad
[09:23] <AlexQ> guess it shouldn't be "floating slave"
[09:25] <AlexQ> the funny thing is that it returns crazy values of motion a[0] and constant values of a[1] in xinput --test
[09:27] <AlexQ> probably that's because it is not set as a pointer and the mouse events aren't interpreted properly. Where can I set my touchpad as "slave pointer" rather than "floating slave"?
[09:28] <Deathlire> sorry I couldn't be of any help megdanov, but you should look up the actual chipset your integrated soundcard has..I'm sure ppl can help you alot more with that info.
[09:31] <zetheroo> did Ubuntu 11.10 come with grub2 ?
[09:31] <theadmin> zetheroo: Grub2 is the default since Karmic, being 9.10
[09:32] <zetheroo> ok nice - thanks
[09:32] <AlexQ> theadmin: How can I attach my "touchpad" into Virtual core pointer as a slave pointer, instead of being floating slave in X.org?
[09:32] <theadmin> AlexQ: I have no idea what any of those even mean, eh.
[09:33] <AlexQ> theadmin: X device states, I can't find how can I control them. Where are X input device settings?
[09:34] <theadmin> AlexQ: I'd suppose in xorg.conf (or xorg.conf.d)
[09:38] <AlexQ> AlexQ: There is synaptics set properly I guess
[09:39] <AlexQ> theadmin: I'll try to reinstall the synaptics driver
[09:39] <knoppies> Hi, I am trying to do a PXE boot xubuntu12.04.2 install using a local HTTP mount of the .iso file. I've reached a point where it says "No Kernal Modules where found" and then says there is probably a kernal mismatch between the version of the PXE boot (an ubuntu one) and the local xubuntu archive
[09:40] <knoppies> Does anybody have any ideas how i can get around this?
[09:40] <liminal> hello
[09:41] <AlexQ> theadmin: Maybe when I upgraded Chrome the synaptics package was upgraded and that caused problems? I'll remove it completely, then reboot, then install it again and then reboot.
[09:41] <theadmin> AlexQ: Well, you can sure try, but it obviously has nothing to do with Chrome
[09:42] <AlexQ> theadmin: What is "Remove completely" in Synaptic package manager; should I use that option on this pkg?
[09:42] <AlexQ> Or just simply Remove?
[09:42] <theadmin> AlexQ: "Remove completely" maps to apt-get purge, i.e. it removes the configuration files as well
[09:42] <knoppies> AlexQ, remove completely (including the config files) is purge.
[09:42] <theadmin> AlexQ: MIght be best to use that in this case
[09:42] <AlexQ> so it would be better
[09:43] <AlexQ> but when I select it and "Apply", there is list "To be removed: xserver-xorg-input-all"
[09:43] <AlexQ> doesn't look safe at all
[09:44] <knoppies> AlexQ, Im sure that is just a meta package.
[09:44] <AlexQ> ok, so proceed
[09:45] <AlexQ> reboot & reinstall of that package, thanks, hope will help. Bye
[09:46] <phozon_> Hi all
[09:50] <user82> hello. does the ubuntu mac image start on a normal intel pc?
[09:52] <phozon_> normally
[09:53] <user82> maybe the boot stick is messed up then... thanks phozon_
[09:54] <phozon_> get norm image
[09:58] <ryorky1> whenever I restart my system, my swap files are turned off.  What can I do to make sure they are always on?
[09:59] <ryorky1> I'm running dual boot win 7 and ubuntu 12.04 and have 13 gigs of swap files
[09:59] <ryorky1> rather swap partition
[10:01] <{mikey}> ryorky1, you could make sure the uuid is correct in your  /etc/fstab
[10:01] <{mikey}> and come to that that you have a swap entry in fstb
[10:01] <{mikey}> fstab
[10:01] <suna> does anyone here use steam?
[10:02] <suna> for gaming
[10:02] <Ben64> !anyone | suna
[10:02] <ryorky1> {mikey}:  I'm pretty sure it is:  here is what's in my fstab file:
[10:02] <ryorky1> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[10:02] <ryorky1> #
[10:02] <ryorky1> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[10:02] <ryorky1> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[10:02] <ryorky1> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[10:02] <FloodBot1> ryorky1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <suna> i don tknow what ubottu ment but
[10:03] <Ben64> suna: it means "does anyone..." type questions don't really help anything
[10:04] <suna> i was asking that ben becouse i dont want too ask my question like i have many times before and no one have a clue
[10:04] <Ben64> suna: it only takes a few seconds to type a question. you won't know who can answer it until you ask it
[10:05] <suna> anways onwards with my question i wish to install a game on my desktop example skyrim but some of the mods recuire it being linked to steam do i have to install it using steam or could i install it on my desktop then link it to steam some how
[10:06] <Ben64> oh you're talking about steam on wine
[10:06] <ryorky1> {mikey}:  here is the paste of my code:  http://pastie.org/6439399  let me know if you see anything that looks off
[10:06] <suna> and ben true but you know how many times ive asked this same qustion it gets old when you have 100 people in a chat that cant andswer any of my questions
[10:06] <Ben64> theres actually 1693
[10:06] <Ben64> much more than 100 :)
[10:06] <knoppies> Ben64, and how many of those are idling?
[10:07] <Ben64> impossible to know
[10:07] <suna> ok i dont want to start some flame war all i want is to get skyrim installed on my computer
[10:07] <suna> ive been trying to get this done for like 5 days
[10:07] <Ben64> suna: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24749
[10:07] <blackjack69> what is skyrim??
[10:08] <suna> ima about to say f it and find a way  to get windows again ben i have already tryed that
[10:08] <{mikey}> ryorky1, check the uuid of the last line against 'ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -l'
[10:08] <suna> i had wine and wine tricks installed tryed it that way
[10:10] <Ben64> suna: you might want to try #winehq then
[10:10] <suna> then i uninstalled that and tryed it with playonlinux
[10:10] <suna> i think ima just go to bed and get windows tommarrow its 3:09 here
[10:10] <bazhang> suna, you should take this to #winehq , thats where it belongs
[10:10] <suna> true
[10:10] <suna> but that channel no one andswers
[10:10] <bazhang> so be patient
[10:10] <Ben64> the appdb has a lot of info, and its rated gold. it can't be that hard to get working
[10:10] <{mikey}> suna can't imagine skyrim runs well under wine anyway.
[10:10] <suna> i have asked this same question in that channel and alot more and everyone seems to be idleing and bazhang i did wait for 2hours on the first 3
[10:10] <Ben64> {mikey}: from the appdb - "With an NVidia GTX570, i5 2500k@4GHz, and 16GB RAM as a test system, this game runs smoother then when I was on Windows 7."
[10:11] <bazhang> suna, well thats where it belongs. wait as long as it takes.
[10:11] <suna> ok then i guess that  andswers my question
[10:11] <suna> ima hit to bed
[10:11] <suna> and hopfully i can get ahold of a family freind or something to get me a copy of windows
[10:12] <{mikey}> Ben64, the skyrim / oblivion engine is junky though, I got 70% through oblivion under wine which was gold rated awell before realising minor critical events were miss firing
[10:12] <suna> i shouldnt have to reaserch stuff then when i need help have too jump thought 10 thousand loops to get a andswer when in windows all i have to do is click install on steam then install skyrim
[10:13] <bazhang> !ot | suna
[10:13] <suna> then play it
[10:13] <bazhang> suna, thats enough
[10:13] <{mikey}> suna, in windows you *cannot* install a game for another os
[10:14] <suna> what have a done wrong baz all ive wanted to do is install a game ive asked at least 2k people how to do that on ubuntu and only 1 could help me install it
[10:14] <suna> and after that i got a render error
[10:14] <{mikey}> suna, if that's what you want wait for them to release it under steam for linux, although I would hold my breath
[10:14] <ikonia> suna: I'll make it clear for you
[10:15] <ikonia> suna: 1.) windows games are not supported in linux - they may/may not work at random times with software such as wine
[10:15] <bazhang> suna, lets move on.  #winehq is what is needed. this is NOT the complaints channel
[10:15] <ikonia> suna: 2.) ubuntu doesn't make wine - or make games work/fail with wine
[10:15] <ikonia> suna: 3.) if you are having problems with wine not working with a game - #winehq is the channel that needs to help you
[10:15] <Ben64> suna: theres like 70+ pages of text on the appdb about it. start reading
[10:15] <suna> dont worry about it ikonia thats what im saying and bazhang this is why you dont get new users of ubuntu or linux all together i bid yall goodday
[10:16] <ikonia> suna: 4.) if you are unwilling to even read if your game is in a supported status on the wine web site - there is no point discussing anything
[10:16] <ikonia> suna: bye
[10:16] <{mikey}> suna, LOL
[10:17] <Ben64> psst, the ban is not on the ip address, its on the hostname
[10:17] <ikonia> Ben64: it's fine it's webchat so he's muted
[10:17] <ikonia> that will do
[10:18] <xro> Hi, i'm looking for the best way to do a media server with ubuntu.... What do you recommand?
[10:18] <Ben64> xro: media server for....?
[10:18] <Shirakawasuna> xro: Is this media server serving up media via the network, or hooked up to a TV/projector?
[10:19] <xro> Ben64, movies... dlna, upnp, download torrents and so on
[10:19] <Ben64> xro: i meant what will be playing the media
[10:20] <one_year_love> hello
[10:20] <xro> Ben64, an old laptop for the server,  a raspberry  and a samsung tv as clients
[10:20] <Guest70638> Hello
[10:20] <Shirakawasuna> xro: Does that mean it's all network? I still can't tell.
[10:20] <Ben64> xro: well i'm not sure about the tv, but the raspberry pi can do just about anything. I use samba for mine
[10:20] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <xro> Yes, all through my LAN
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know howI must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <FloodBot1> Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:21] <Guest70638> I must write a .raw image with Ubuntu to  a USB and doesn't know how
[10:21] <Ben64> jesus
[10:21] <ikonia> what happened there
[10:21] <ikonia> just a flood
[10:22] <Ben64> he must write a raw image blah blah and doesn't blah
[10:22] <ikonia> Guest70638: hang on for a moment please.
[10:22] <xro> Ben64, he TV use dlna...
[10:22] <FloodBot1> Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <ikonia> Guest70638: that is unacceptable - stop for a minute
[10:22] <ikonia> please
[10:22] <zyngawow> hello, can anyone help m? I've got an ssd and an hdd, and I've installed win7 on half of my ssd. How can I tell ubuntu to install itself on the rest of the ssd instead of the HDD?
[10:22] <Ben64> xro: mediatomb maybe?
[10:22] <ikonia> Guest70638: please hold on a moment
[10:23] <{mikey}> all work and no play makes <Guest70638> a dull boy
[10:23] <ikonia> {mikey}: that's not helpful
[10:23] <Ben64> !info mediatomb
[10:23] <xro> Ben64, mediatomb is a good solution? there are 10 dlna solutions....
[10:23] <Ben64> cool, it still exists
[10:23] <ikonia> Guest70638: last time - that is unacceptable, do not talk to people like that again
[10:23] <Ben64> xro: i used to use it for streaming to a ps3
[10:24] <Ben64> ikonia: am i missing something? he hasn't said anything for 3 minutes
[10:24] <Shirakawasuna> there are a bajillion network media server frameworks out there, xro. For the most basic things, samba is nice. But you probably want something snazzier. Something like mediatomb or Plex
[10:24] <ikonia> Ben64: missed a line
[10:24] <Shirakawasuna> and for the pi hooked up to the TV, xbmc will be happy to deal with either samba or upnp
[10:25] <FloodBot1> Guest70638: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:26] <xro> Ben64, Shirakawasuna, ok about that (i have xbmc on my pi).... And what about the download function. I know there are some soft that automatically start download, rename file, classify them and so on...
[10:26] <Shirakawasuna> xro: I don't really know, sorry
[10:27] <Ben64> yeah i'm not sure either. i record stuff with mythtv, and use ffmpeg manually to change to a pi-happy format
[10:28] <Shirakawasuna> there's probably on-the-fly transcoding options... in theory ;)
[10:28] <xro> Ben64, my pi read mkv, avi and so on...
[10:29] <knoppies> If I use the PXE netboot installer (which states 12.04.1) and then try install from a local 12.04.2 iso served over HTTP, will I have any issues? (Like kernal mismatch)
[10:29] <bekks> knoppies: Sure. Just run sudo apt.-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:29] <ikonia> knoppies: there will be differences, why not just copy over the pxe files to the pxe server to they are in sync
[10:30] <Guest59875> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:30] <Guest59875> it is not allowing me to install updates
[10:30] <knoppies> ikonia, you mean the pxe files from the 12.04.2 iso? Are they even on there?
[10:30] <bekks> Guest59875: How do you try to install the updates?
[10:30] <ikonia> knoppies: should be
[10:31] <Guest59875> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:31] <ronalds> how to change startup options for openbox settup
[10:31] <bekks> Guest59875: How do you try to install the updates?
[10:32] <starbuck33> when comes a new LTS version of ubuntu?
[10:33] <harry_> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:33] <knoppies> ikonia, I dont see it, is it only in the alternate iso?
[10:33] <jrib> harry_: pastebin what your actual input and output are
[10:33] <ikonia> knoppies: I would expect it to be on the normal one too
[10:33] <ikonia> knoppies: or you could be sneaky and just grab those files off the web
[10:33] <knoppies> ikonia, do you know which folder its under? find cant even find it.
[10:33] <ikonia> knoppies: not got a CD here to check, sorry
[10:34] <knoppies> ikonia, I got some files off the web already, but they state they are for the 12.04.1 and I'm worried that it will clash with the 12.04.2 kernel.
[10:35] <hossein> I am trying to install a package
[10:35] <ikonia> knoppies: I wouldn't worry about a clash as the pxe is just to boot it onto the network
[10:35] <hossein> but I get this error
[10:35] <hossein> Unable to locate the mypackage package
[10:35] <ikonia> hossein: what is the package name
[10:35] <hossein> rosdep
[10:35] <ikonia> !info rosdep
[10:36] <ikonia> hossein: that package name is not in the default ubuntu repos
[10:36] <knoppies> ikonia, yea I know, but I just tried to do ubuntu to a xubuntu image and it states "No kernel modules were found. This is probably due to the mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive."
[10:36] <hossein> so what should I do
[10:36] <hossein> :)
[10:36] <ikonia> hossein: find that package elsewhere or get the right package name
[10:36] <ikonia> knoppies: that's quite surprising as the base kernel version is the same
[10:37] <ikonia> knoppies: I'd try it to ubuntu->ubuntu
[10:37] <ikonia> knoppies: just see what happens,
[10:37] <hossein> I am trying to install it using this code: "svn co http://alufr-ros-pkg.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/rgbdslam_freiburg"
[10:37] <davis776> hello, can someone help me and tell me why this setting does not work? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png
[10:37] <ikonia> hossein: yeah, apt-get won't work with source code
[10:37] <knoppies> ikonia, thats what I thought. That is what Im trying to do now, but Im afraid that if I download a 12.04.2 disk then it will fail, and I will have to download a 12.04.1 disk. I pay for my data. Would rather avoid it if I cant.
[10:37] <hossein> so how can I install it?
[10:38] <ikonia> hossein: you'll need to compile it, there are normally README and INSTALL text files in it
[10:38] <hossein> it downloads the package but cannot locate it!
[10:38] <ikonia> knoppies: a reasonable concern, I'd be surprised if it didn't work as the pxe boot is just enough to boot it
[10:38] <ikonia> hossein: it's not a package, - it's source code
[10:39] <hossein> ow
[10:39] <hossein> can you please tell me what is different
[10:39] <hossein> or give me a link to go and read
[10:40] <ikonia> hossein: a package is pre-compiled and ready to run, source code needs to be compiled into binaries to be able to run
[10:40] <hossein> wow
[10:40] <hossein> great
[10:40] <harry_> can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:40] <ikonia> hossein: if you are at this level of knowledge, I'd suggest a.) reading up on source code b.) trying to find a pre-compiled package c.) make a request on launchpad.net for a package to be built
[10:40] <harry_> and update dialouge box closes
[10:40] <tobia> hi
[10:41] <knoppies> thank you ikonia
[10:41] <tobia> zou ai am italian
[10:41] <hossein> ok thanks alot
[10:41] <megdanov> I have toshiba qosmio x770 laptop. Can't get the subwoofer to work . No driver. Can any1 help me?
[10:41] <harry_> and update dialouge box closes: can some 1 help newbie to ubuntu: when i try to install updates i get the error: (libavutil-extra-51 libswscale-extra-2).
[10:42] <dr_willis> harry_:  start with the command line and try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and pastebin any error messages for the channel to see.
[10:42] <Georgy> Guys, if anyone can help, i have the same problem as here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043 but there is no solution given in this topic, so if anyone has an idea ?
[10:42] <dr_willis> Georgy:  check askubuntu.com yet?
[10:43] <harry_> ok ill try that
[10:43] <dr_willis> and summarize the issue a little bit :) most people wont go to every URL posted just to read about a problem they may know nothing about
[10:44] <harry_> how do i do the paste bin procedure?
[10:44] <harry_> i am very new, to this interface, i just got sick of windows 8
[10:44] <marcs1989> victory!
[10:51] <kristenbb_> hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?
[10:51] <k1l> kristenbb_: make sure  that the headers of your kernel version are installed
[10:52] <k1l> (they are needed for the video driver)
[10:52] <kristenbb_> what does that mean?
[10:52] <k1l> kristenbb_: show a "uname -a " please
[10:52] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[10:53] <dr_willis> if your video drivers are not supporting the 3d desktop.  unity will default down to the 2d version
[10:53] <kristenbb_> k1l: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:53] <k1l> ah, Ben64 got the matching installing command
[10:53] <Ben64> k1l: works on every kernel :)
[10:54] <Ben64> or in this instance, could just do "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic"
[10:57] <blackjack69> i need to triple boot my system with windows xp, windows 8 and ubuntu.. i have two hard disks .. 1st hd dual boots windows xp and win 8 .. the 2nd hd has my data.. on whch hd should i install ubuntu now.. given that i dont want to mess up my working environment..
[10:58] <Georgy> Buy new h
[10:58] <Georgy> hd (:
[10:58] <FerkSwe> Hey, I'm having some odd problems with my keyboard settings. I set it to swedish over and over again, but it keeps reverting to american.
[10:58] <davis776> hello, can someone help me and tell me why this setting does not work? http://i.imgur.com/7MKAxdQ.png
[10:58] <blackjack69> cant buy new hd.. no money
[11:00] <_cronus_> Georgy, does the memory test option work?
[11:00] <dr_willis> blackjack69:  backup your data drive. and install it  there..
[11:00] <FerkSwe> Hah!  Still not working for you?
[11:01] <dr_willis> blackjack69:  you can even put grub on that data drive so you boot it instead.. leaveing the windows drives untouched
[11:01] <blackjack69> data drive has lots of empty space..i will shrink it and crate a new partition...
[11:02] <blackjack69> grub wont affect my existing setup..ie the windows 8 and xp dual boot on the other drive??
[11:02] <bekks> blackjack69: There is no guarantuee.
[11:02] <blackjack69> okay
[11:03] <bekks> blackjack69: You really should have a backup before chaning something at your partitioning scheme.
[11:03] <blackjack69> how are you mentioning me BTW??
[11:03] <dr_willis> !tab
[11:03] <blackjack69> i am new to IRC
[11:03] <FerkSwe> blackjack69: Yeah... Backups are a Very good idea...
[11:03] <dr_willis> data not backed up - is data thats on borrowed time
[11:04] <blackjack69> okay i will backup everything.. it's gonna take a long time :(
[11:04] <bekks> blackjack69: You'll take more time to restore it after loosing it :)
[11:04] <Sjajne_Niti> FerkSwe, speaking of backups, is it safe to remove backup monitor from start up apps?
[11:04] <bekks> Sjajne_Niti: Yes, it is.
[11:05] <dr_willis> a hard drive truely is the weakest link these days.. one can die at any time.
[11:05] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, cool :)
[11:06] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, and tell me pls, how to remove zeitgeist from start up
[11:06] <Mairusu> Hello, I'm having issues with CCSM not saving settings. Problem is: Unity disabled itself; re-enabling it in ccsm works, but that's lost between reboots. Any advice?
[11:06] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, I removed it from start up but I can see it still runs some apps
[11:06] <bekks> Sjajne_Niti: I never used that, sorry.
[11:06] <Sjajne_Niti> bekks, kk
[11:06] <bekks> !autostart > Sjajne_Niti
[11:08] <FerkSwe> Anyone know where the alsa-base.conf is stored?
[11:10] <kristenbb_> hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?
[11:10] <FerkSwe> Found it! >D
[11:10] <FerkSwe> *:D
[11:10] <Val1> Any C programmers?
[11:10] <FerkSwe> Val1: I can't C anyone!
[11:11] <k1l> !ot | Val1
[11:12] <djbengan> hi
[11:12] <djbengan> i got a question
[11:13] <FerkSwe> DjBengan? Is it related to ubuntu on a mac?
[11:13] <djbengan> Hi ferk!
[11:13] <djbengan> lol
[11:13] <djbengan> ^^
[11:13] <djbengan> yes
[11:13] <djbengan> indeed
[11:13] <FloodBot1> djbengan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <Traumeel> haha
[11:13] <Traumeel> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <FerkSwe> djbengan: Morning
[11:14] <FerkSwe> djbengan: What is your problem today then_
[11:14] <k1l> Traumeel: please no bot scripts in here.
[11:14] <djbengan> i rly need to use the proparary driver, but, whenever install it, xorg kinda tells me i got no screen
[11:14] <djbengan> (no screen found error)
[11:15] <k1l> djbengan: which uubuntu, which videocard, which driver? where is the driver from?
[11:15] <k1l> just for testing: http://ubuntu.com
[11:15] <Traumeel> [ Home | Ubuntu ] - http://ubuntu.com
[11:16] <djbengan> Latest relase, Nvidia card, in the macbook air, and the driver is nvidia-current
[11:16] <Georgy> Hi evr1, this is my first time on Ubuntu Forums..
[11:16] <Georgy> My lap-top sys,specs:ASUS Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3200 @ 2.00GHz
[11:16] <Georgy> :NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS 512MB
[11:16] <Georgy> Motherboard- PEGATRON CORPORATION X71SL
[11:16] <Georgy> :3BG ram
[11:16] <FloodBot1> Georgy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <Georgy> I have previously installed ubuntu maverick on my acer aspire one, and on several other PC, but when it came to my asus it just wont install..
[11:16] <Georgy> (i have tried this from CD-boot and USB-boot I also have a 50Gb partition so it will be along side windows)
[11:17] <k1l> Georgy: dont paste that much textlines in here
[11:17] <kristenbb_> hi, I've just updated a lot of packages, and since then I can't log in with ubuntu 3D. I'm stuck with ubuntu 2D. I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I can see that the look of the launcher is different, and echo $DESKTOP_SESSION displays ubuntu-2D. What can I do ?
[11:17] <k1l> kristenbb_: didnt you install the headers?
[11:17] <djbengan> and, i followed the wiki for my macbook air, the 3,1
[11:17] <djbengan> and tried installing the headers
[11:17] <djbengan> wich broke unity
[11:17] <Deathlire> you can go without that 3d thing..it's much better anyways.
[11:18] <Georgy> k1l, well i try to solve my problem for 2 days now :(
[11:18] <Georgy> Noone knows the answer :(
[11:18] <kristenbb_> k1l: I don't know what that means. uname -a shows 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:18] <k1l> Georgy: even if its 2 years that is no reason to flood the channel with that much textlines at once
[11:18] <Deathlire> wait a minute..maverick..is that 9.10?
[11:18] <Georgy> Sorry
[11:19] <bekks> Deathlire: Yeah, its dead.
[11:19] <k1l> kristenbb_: that was just a information for me. Ben64 gave you the correct command. just scroll up and re read
[11:19] <Georgy> bekks, i found my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043
[11:19] <Georgy> Maybe you can help ?
[11:20] <kristenbb_> k1l: oh sorry I didn't know this applied to me, he wasn't answering me. So am I to execute this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g) ?
[11:20] <Deathlire> I loved maverick..
[11:20] <k1l> kristenbb_: yes
[11:20] <Deathlire> don't really like anything to do with unity though..just my opinion though
[11:20] <bekks> Georgy: Did you try all the different suggestions mentioned in that post?
[11:21] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:21] <FerkSwe> Deathlire: Agree. Just switched to gnome 3
[11:21] <Deathlire> but there is some good..even with the new ones of disabling it and using the old desktop of course
[11:21] <kristenbb_> k1l: okay, I'm doing it right now. While it is downloading, could you please explain what this is, and why I need it ?
[11:22] <Georgy> bekks, yes nomodeset everything
[11:22] <Georgy> bekks, nothing helps :(
[11:22] <FerkSwe> djbengan: So, when you install your drivers, unity dies?
[11:22] <bekks> Georgy: What else mentioned in that post did you try?
[11:22] <ShapeShifter499> I have this rather large key marked with a "P" in the upper right of my laptop keyboard, I remember this being some kind of "program launching" key that worked when I had windows installed, can I remap this to cycle through my workplaces?,
[11:23] <Deathlire> is there a reason you want unity? is it a touchscreen or something?
[11:23] <djbengan> no, the display goes black
[11:23] <djbengan> everything
[11:24] <Deathlire> ShapeShifter499 : yes you sure could as long as it doesn't use the same interupts as some other key
[11:24] <Deathlire> djbengan : what kind of video card do you have? and processor..i may know the problem
[11:25] <ShapeShifter499> Deathlire, as it stands constantly tapping the key seems to do nothing at all so I'm assuming its a blank key aimed for windows only uses, how would I remap this key btw?
[11:25] <we6jbo> hi
[11:26] <k1l> kristenbb_: you need the kernel headers to "compile" the drivers for your kernel version. that is what the driver-installer should do. but if you dont have the headers he cant compile and cant install. so you cant run 3d and get to the unity2d
[11:26] <djbengan> Nvidia GeForce 320M
[11:26] <djbengan> intel dualcore 1,4
[11:26] <Georgy> bekks, well there were no other solutions, and im not going to install 10.04 or smth
[11:26] <we6jbo> I have a question
[11:26] <you-tee-f> is ubuntu a GNU os ?
[11:26] <dr_willis> Gnu tools are used in Linux.
[11:26] <k1l> Deathlire: unity is not only for touchscreens. lets stick to the technical issue in here and not to personal favorites
[11:27] <you-tee-f> yes i saw glibc
[11:27] <dr_willis> Gnu dosent really hae an OS themselfs as far as i know
[11:27] <Deathlire> well if memory serves right you could remap it using the ah can't even remember but it comes with normal versions before unity..and it may not be preinstalled on yours..can someone help me out here?
[11:27] <kristenbb_> k1l: the drivers of what ? why can't I download a compiled version, as it is usually the case ?
[11:27] <FerkSwe> djbengan: Do you have access to a console using ctrl + alt f3 ?
[11:28] <Deathlire> headers are source..they aren't a binary
[11:28] <k1l> kristenbb_: that is the easiest way for you. just make sure you have the headers installed. the rest does the driver-installer for you
[11:28] <we6jbo> Is there a way to not have Ubuntu ask me to enter a password when I close and reopen the laptop lid?
[11:28] <k1l> kristenbb_: the driver for your video-card
[11:28] <onebitxajax> gi to all
[11:28] <FerkSwe> we6jbo: Got ubuntu tweaks installed?
[11:28] <onebitxajax> i have a missing header can somene point me how to get it?
[11:28] <onebitxajax> GL3/gl3w.h: No such file or directory
[11:29] <FerkSwe> we6jbo: I belive there's an option in there
[11:29] <djbengan> no tty is not availble when xorg + headers are installed
[11:29] <you-tee-f> dr_willis, well my question is then : ubuntu is based on GNU paradigm ? i saw the glibc was used compiling programs
[11:29] <Deathlire> sorry k1l : I am doing all this from memory in the sense I haven't used pure ubuntu in a bit. just mostly deb and bt quite a bit lately
[11:29] <ikonia> you-tee-f: you're question makes no sense
[11:29] <k1l> Georgy: maverick is out of support.
[11:29] <ikonia> your even
[11:29] <kristenbb_> k1l: okay, the download is done. What now ?
[11:29] <kristenbb_> k1l: should I just restart the computer ?
[11:29] <you-tee-f> sorry i'm not native, hard to get it
[11:29] <you-tee-f> ;-)
[11:30] <onebitxajax> nobody can help?
[11:30] <k1l> kristenbb_: which video card do you have?
[11:30] <kristenbb_> k1l: how can I know that ? I have a laptop.?
[11:30] <kristenbb_> k1l: how can I know that ? I have a laptop.
[11:30] <k1l> kristenbb_: "lspci" will list your video card
[11:31] <Georgy> k1l what does that mean ?
[11:31] <you-tee-f> ikonia, ubuntu has some GNU features, does that mean ubuntu was intented to be a GNU system ?
[11:31] <k1l> Georgy: out of support means. no updates, no security updates and fixes and no support in here
[11:31] <kristenbb_> k1l: many lines appear when I type lspci, which one am I to report ?
[11:31] <ikonia> you-tee-f: an "gnu system"??? what
[11:31] <Deathlire> uhm GNU..is GNU..
[11:31] <we6jbo> FerkSwe: No tweaks
[11:32] <ikonia> you-tee-f: it's a linux distribution, made out of the Linux kernel and the Gnu tools
[11:32] <k1l> kristenbb_: the one talking about VGA controller or video card
[11:32] <Georgy> k1l, so in other words, no Ubuntu for me :( ?
[11:32] <kristenbb_> k1l: then perhaps this one: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 95c2
[11:32] <k1l> Georgy: just install a ubuntu that is in the support-range
[11:32] <Deathlire> if your doing lspci ...look for something to do with nvidia-amd-radeon-ati something like..
[11:32] <you-tee-f> ikonia, ok thanks
[11:33] <Georgy> k1l, 12.10 is ?
[11:33] <k1l> Georgy: yes, and 12.04. and 10.04 untill april this year
[11:33] <Georgy> k1l; Well i have the 12.10 lol ?
[11:34] <Ben64> kristenbb_: you might want to do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall dkms" but i'm not sure if ati needs it
[11:34] <k1l> Georgy: then why are you talking about maverick? 12.10 is quantal
[11:34] <Georgy> WHAT ? i dont know who maverick is ? i never talked about it ?
[11:34] <k1l> Ben64: or reinstall fglrx?
[11:35] <eric-97> how do I use rsync to copy desktop/example.txt to /media/eric/data ?
[11:35] <Ben64> k1l: shouldn't be necessary
[11:35] <andrei> hey
[11:35] <boomer41> Hello, is there a way to add a CA Certificate automaticly - so that every ubuntu system trusts this cert?
[11:35] <Deathlire> you realy want to rsync a command to make a backup every x seconds? correct?
[11:36] <kristenbb_> so I should try to reinstall dkms ? What is it ?
[11:36] <jigal> hello i have installed ubuntu server on my vps. now when i do apt-get update i get this error temorary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[11:36] <Ben64> !info dkms | kristenbb_
[11:36] <Seveas> jigal: can you resolve other hostnames?
[11:36]  * api984 is away: Don't follow me
[11:36] <Kartagis> ikonia: can you help me? sorry for pinging you like that but I can't seem to find a solution
[11:36] <bazhang> api984, disable that
[11:36] <Seveas> api984: stop spamming the channel with away messages
[11:36] <jigal> Seveas, nope it seems i have to add a nameserver or so?
[11:37] <k1l> !away > api984
[11:37] <ikonia> Kartagis: depends what the problem is
[11:37] <Deathlire> jigal sounds like on your vps the DNS isn't setup right
[11:37] <Seveas> jigal: yeah, pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[11:37] <kristenbb_> Ben64: so wait, was it useless to try to install the kernel headers after all ?
[11:37] <ikonia> Seveas: don't forget the new stupid resolver setup
[11:37] <Seveas> ikonia: that's done on servers too?
[11:37] <Ben64> kristenbb_: no, you need the headers in order for it to build a module
[11:37] <Georgy> k1l, WHAT ? i dont know who maverick is ? i never talked about it ?
[11:37] <ikonia> Seveas: I thought it had been put in on 12.10.....not betting my life
[11:38] <Deathlire> eh, it's always good to install kernel headers..if you have the space :)
[11:38] <Seveas> ikonia: on my fresh 12.10 vps it's not doing that
[11:38] <jigal> Seveas, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:38] <ikonia> Seveas: then "no"
[11:38] <bekks> Georgy: You did. Now please lets get back to support.
[11:38] <Seveas> jigal: ok, pasterbin the output of: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.com
[11:38] <bekks> Georgy: Did you try all the suggestions that where mentioneed in the forum post you linke, besides nomodeset?
[11:38] <Georgy> There were no other ?
[11:39] <Deathlire> try nameservers 1) <IP_ADDRESS> amd 2.) <IP_ADDRESS> <- googles nameservers
[11:39] <_cronus_> Georgy, does either the memory test or the boot from hard disk options work?
[11:39] <bekks> Georgy: There are a lot. Read the thread again.
[11:39] <k1l> Georgy: that was in the text you pasted into the channel.
[11:39] <jigal> Seveas, connection time out
[11:39] <kristenbb_> Ben64: so, I typed the reinstall command, and it completed very quickly. What am I to do now ?
[11:39] <Seveas> Deathlire: isn't the second <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:39] <bekks> Georgy: And in the post you linked, there even was a link to more suggestions for problem solutions.
[11:39] <Ben64> yeah its not <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:39] <Deathlire> ahh it might be actually Seveas need to dbl check
[11:39] <Seveas> jigal: replace <IP_ADDRESS> with <IP_ADDRESS> and contact your VPS provider to find out which nameservers you should use
[11:40] <Kartagis> ikonia: so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/xen
[11:40] <Kartagis> oops
[11:40] <Ben64> kristenbb_: any errors? did you see it build a module?
[11:40] <Deathlire> actually your VPS sppl should have gave you an email with nameservers and dns and all that..kind of odd they didn't really
[11:40] <Kartagis> so, I'd installed xen a long time ago, and now I need to switch kernels. when I do, I get "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open object file: No such file or directory". I also upgraded the kernel, and I get the same message. why am I getting that? I've got /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6. I've been told that it might be doing it because libc.so.6 can't be located in /lib/, however I looked at another 12.04 ubuntu w
[11:40] <Kartagis> ithout xen installed, and libc.so.6 is at the same place as mine. how can I resolve this? thanks :)
[11:40] <Kartagis> ikonia: ^
[11:40] <jigal> Seveas, is it tha same as a DNS? because in my config panel it gives me to DNS adddresses I just used one of them
[11:40] <artrei> what's best driver for nvidia? nouveau or current?
[11:41] <kristenbb_> Ben64: no errors, but I doubt it built anything
[11:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: run ldd against /bin/sh - see what it's looking for
[11:41] <Seveas> jigal: yes.
[11:41] <fermomuoviti> ciao
[11:41] <ikonia> Kartagis: then qualify each of those libraries
[11:41] <fermomuoviti> !list
[11:41] <Georgy> Allright, so i have read whole the topic, the guy still has no solution, he use apprently 11.04 now, and those other options i already tried, nothing helps
[11:41] <Ben64> kristenbb_: well you could restart and see if ubuntu 3d works, but i'm not an expert on ati/amd
[11:41] <Kartagis> ikonia: if I can't boot to it, how can I run ldd?
[11:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: use a livecd ?
[11:42] <bekks> Georgy: So which other option is mentioned there?
[11:42] <ikonia> Kartagis: and if you can't boot - how do you plan to fix this ?
[11:42] <k1l> kristenbb_: no errors doesnt mean nothing happend
[11:42] <kristenbb_> Ben64: k1l : here is the output, awfully brief: http://pastebin.com/yS14USJP
[11:42] <Ben64> Georgy: 11.04 isn't supported either...
[11:43] <Deathlire> I remember having a few problems on an older comp with graphical problems..but is totally unrelated since it was agp related..but ahh nm.
[11:43] <Georgy> Try ubuntu without installing, acpi=off,  ..
[11:44] <bekks> Georgy: And which three other options are mentioned, too?
[11:44] <Ben64> kristenbb_: could you pastebin "find /var/lib/dkms"
[11:45] <Georgy> bekks, all with nomodeset ?
[11:45] <Georgy> using 10.04
[11:45] <Georgy> or 11.04
[11:45] <bekks> Georgy: No. You have to read the complete thread, not just the first few posts.
[11:45] <Georgy> bekks, i read it complete
[11:45] <Georgy> Last ditch effort you can try these flags, they worked well for me on earlier releases.
[11:46] <Georgy> What does that mean ?
[11:46] <Deathlire> i tried all the nomodeset with quite a few distro's..none would even work when my card just simply wouldn't work..and still to this day I can't figure out why
[11:46] <bekks> Georgy: Obviously you didnt read the second page.
[11:46] <Georgy> My post in on the second page
[11:47] <Georgy> And i did read it
[11:47] <Georgy> just dont undstand all those words
[11:47] <bekks> Georgy: Three optioned mentioned, worth a try.
[11:47] <boomer41> How can i add my own CA in the update-ca-certificates command? or other question: can i add it?
[11:47] <Georgy> I tried them all 3
[11:47] <jigal> Seveas, have added the DNS off google and still same rorr
[11:47] <bekks> Georgy: When? You just said you dont know what it means.
[11:48] <Seveas> jigal: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:48] <Georgy> Yeah that one with the flags
[11:48] <Georgy> i tried the other
[11:48] <Deathlire> jigal did you ifconfig eth0 down? and back up
[11:48] <jigal> Seveas, Deathlire it says the network is unreachable
[11:48] <kristenbb_> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/LpyxNmui
[11:48] <boomer41> How can i add my own CA in the update-ca-certificates command? or other question: can i add it?
[11:49] <Deathlire> what is your host? might be good to actually check if its having some sort of problem before ya go nuts about it?
[11:49] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[11:49] <Icebear> ....
[11:49] <Ben64> kristenbb_: looks like the driver is built
[11:50] <Ben64> kristenbb_: although, why aren't you running on the latest kernel?
[11:50] <kristenbb_> Ben64: okay, so I should just restart then ?
[11:50] <jigal> Deathlire, it's a vips
[11:50] <kristenbb_> Ben64: I have no idea?
[11:50] <jigal> vps
[11:50] <Ben64> Mar 10 2013 03:53:27 <kristenbb_>	k1l: 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:50] <vivanov> is 13.04 usable now ?
[11:50] <ShapeShifter499> I found a command that works for me in the terminal via the vary last post at the bottom of http://askubuntu.com/questions/5229/how-can-i-bind-a-key-to-cycle-between-workspaces      but when I try to bind this command to a key in "System Settings>Keyboard"   nothing happens, am I doing something wrong?
[11:50] <Deathlire> if the comp won't run on the latest kernel it's probably something to do with it not being able to handle such things..
[11:50] <Ben64> kristenbb_: you should be on 3.2.0-38
[11:50] <Seveas> jigal: ok, either your routing is messed up, or there's a firewall in place. Pastebin output of this: ifconfig -a; route -n; iptables-save
[11:50] <Ben64> kristenbb_: unless you just haven't restarted in a pretty long while?
[11:51] <kristenbb_> Ben64: I don't know
[11:51] <kristenbb_> Ben64: I have restarted just yesterday
[11:51] <Ben64> kristenbb_: well then i'd say restart, and come back here if it's not working still
[11:51] <Seveas> jigal: and while you're at it: outpuf of traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:51] <kristenbb_> Ben64: ok I will, I just have to let some work finish first
[11:52] <kristenbb_> Ben64: thanks a lot for your help
[11:52] <Ben64> kristenbb_: no problem. also, maybe check in grub during boot up to see what kernel it's loading
[11:52] <marc__> hello
[11:52] <ShapeShifter499> never mind, got it working :D
[11:52] <ShapeShifter499> typo lol
[11:53] <Deathlire> nice ShapeShifter499
[11:53] <jigal> ok have to deal with this later gtg now. Seveas thanks
[11:53] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:53] <cristian_c> How to switch audio from mono to stereo?
[11:53] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:02] <eric-97> how do I use rsync to copy desktop/example.txt to /media/eric/data ?
[12:03] <Ben64> man rsync
[12:03] <Deathlire> it copies everything..that you wish
[12:03] <eric-97> could you gimme an example of how to copy stuff
[12:04] <Deathlire> cp /home/~user/example.txt /media/eric/data/
[12:04] <eric-97> and how do I do that with rsync?
[12:04] <_cronus_> Kartagis, does this message appear in the initrd stage or after root mount? maybe libc is missing only from initrd
[12:04] <Deathlire> cp is copy ..rsync is for backing up.
[12:05] <eric-97> the reason I want to use rsync is cos it is faster, am I right?
[12:05] <Ben64> eric-97: for reals, use a man page or do "--help" at the end of a command
[12:05] <eric-97> because look, when I copy files to my USB stick it is at first 25 mbps then after 5 minutes it's 5 mbps
[12:05] <Deathlire> usually rsync is for mirroing backups..not for just copying. what are you trying to do eric-97 ?
[12:05] <eric-97> but when I use teracopy on Windows it copies super fast at constant speed
[12:05] <Deathlire> *mirroring*
[12:06] <eric-97> so how do I copy files efficiently to my usb stick without exponentially slowing down speed?
[12:06] <Ben64> flash drives are slow, you can't really get around that
[12:06] <k1l> Deathlire: rsync is for secur copying because it checks the hashes of the files
[12:07] <Deathlire> if your using wireless, those speeds are irrelavent. because negotiaion speeds will deduce when you use them over weak signals
[12:07] <eric-97> is there anything like Teracopy (windows) for linux?
[12:07] <k1l> eric-97: the slowing down is related to the slow writing speed of your usb-stick
[12:07] <Deathlire> and I'm misspelling words like crazy :P
[12:07] <Ben64> and
[12:07] <eric-97> but come on, even an sd card is faster
[12:07] <Kartagis> _cronus_: it appears right after I select the kernel
[12:08] <Ben64> just because it says its going slower doesn't mean it is actually going slower.
[12:08] <Deathlire> it all has to do with your speeds of other things and how it can really keep up with data bursts.
[12:08] <k1l> eric-97: that depends on that usb-stick and the flash memory in it.
[12:08] <Deathlire> but they are right in the word of all
[12:08] <k1l> eric-97: i dont know of a reason why cp or rsync should be slower.
[12:09] <_cronus_> Kartagis, then probably it is missing from initrd. that's why everything looks normal after system is booted.
[12:09] <Deathlire> never trust something that says exact time, it is only an estimation
[12:09] <_cronus_> Kartagis, you could try to extract initrd to verify this...
[12:09] <eric-97> kll: if I have two ISO files, it would be faster ro copy each separately instead of both after eachother
[12:09] <Kartagis> _cronus_: how do I do that?
[12:09] <eric-97> *to
[12:10] <bekks> eric-97: In terms of I/O, thats irrelevant - the copy process will take the same time.
[12:10] <Deathlire> of course it would be faster..that would be seperate files..but not as fast to copy both with cp..so it depends on the eyes of the beholder and your preference
[12:10] <Deathlire> and how much you lag within typing the next copy command
[12:10] <eric-97> then what makes teracopy for windows faster than normal copy?
[12:11] <bekks> Deathlire: Please tell us, in terms of I/O why copying multiple files will take a longer time for each file, when copying one file after the other.
[12:11] <Deathlire> I can't tell you, I haven't used teracopy. But I willtell you windows usually lies about it's copying time and bars.
[12:11] <k1l> eric-97: there is a difference between saying its copying faster and actuall  doing it faster
[12:11] <_cronus_> Kartagis, there should be a tutorial. i'll try to locate it
[12:12] <eric-97> Deathlire: thats what microsoft does since DOS
[12:12] <k1l> eric-97: the best program in the world cant copy faster than the memory can save the data. thats it
[12:12] <eric-97> ok
[12:12] <eric-97> but can I mod the system to let cp cache more?
[12:12] <bekks> eric-97: No.
[12:12] <eric-97> or is it by default?
[12:12] <Deathlire> ahh bekks : If you do one copy of a file and it is 40 gigs and you let it finish while walking away..and it's done before you get back..ya get my drift? :P just copy both at once
[12:13] <bekks> eric-97: The I/O cache will be as big as possible.
[12:13] <eric-97> oh ok
[12:13] <Ben64> cache isn't the problem. the slow flash memory is
[12:13] <Ben64> get a fancy new usb3 flash drive if you want speed
[12:14] <_cronus_> Kartagis, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/
[12:14] <bekks> Deathlire: Copying both at the same time, in terms of I/O, will divide the bandwidth for each file by two. They will take twice the time, and magically, the summed time after finishing copy is the same as copying them one after another.
[12:14] <Deathlire> i'm satisfied with 45MB a second on my usb2.0 500gig seagate..of course it doesn't stay with 45MB, it seems to go down to about 20 or so because of the IO. of course :)
[12:15] <kokanin> i am trying to boot some diskless nodes using warewulf, while doing the exact same thing quantal and raring fail to boot, but precise works. The console just blanks out after busybox switching to the new root using exec switch_root /newroot /sbin/init, does anyone have a clue what might be changed?
[12:15] <Deathlire> bekks  ya missed my point, I was actually saying the same thing as you are, really.
[12:16] <bekks> Deathlire: 45MB/s on USB2 is pretty impossible, since the technical max. is about 33MB/s for the USB2 controllers.
[12:17] <Deathlire> it's hooked up to a 3.0 but i'm only guessing it isn't right since the average speed is around 15-20
[12:17] <bekks> Deathlire: At the beginning of the process, the bandwidth is higher,since the actual process uses the I/O cache in RAM.
[12:18] <Deathlire> plus it hasn't been formatted in awhile either..it's pretty unstable
[12:18] <k1l> and i think that is what the super_duper copy programs do on windows. they just cache everything in ram or the hdd to make it look faster
[12:19] <Deathlire> windows doesn't even really delete files :P
[12:19] <Deathlire> but yeah..probably
[12:19] <k1l> its like painitng GT stripes onto your car. that doesnt makle anything go faster
[12:19] <kokanin> lol
[12:23] <Deathlire> you can cache all ya want, but doesn't matter in the end when the throughput is all worn out :P
[12:28] <intuxicated> hi , i have problem to install nvidia driver , i installed nvidia driver ( nvidia_current package ) , when i try to use 'modprobe nvidia_current' i got error 'No such device'
[12:28] <intuxicated> any idea ?
[12:29] <bekks> intuxicated: Just use "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[12:29] <intuxicated> bekks:kk
[12:30] <intuxicated> bekks: module nvidia not fount
[12:30] <intuxicated> found*
[12:31] <dr_willis> intuxicated:  you did reboot the pc after installing those?
[12:31] <Deathlire> did you get errors while installing? or did you do it by the gui?
[12:32] <intuxicated> dr_willis: i restart the system like 999times
[12:32] <Deathlire> did you try the other driver?
[12:32] <intuxicated> Deathlire: i don't have gui now , i didn't get any error while installing
[12:32] <intuxicated> Deathlire: what other driver ?
[12:32] <Ned_Flanders> hi i need some help
[12:33] <intuxicated> Ned_Flanders: hi :)
[12:33] <Deathlire> well not any expert at all on the matter of graphics..but there used to be 2 versions of the nvidia driver
[12:33] <Nimble> I'm trying to get my touchpad to work with multitouch gestures. I know the hardware has support for it because it works in windows, but on ubuntu the only thing that works is two finger scrolling. Anyone know what I can do?
[12:33] <Deathlire> at least through the gui anyways
[12:34] <intuxicated> Deathlire: you mean with jockey-kde ?
[12:34] <Deathlire> with gnome actually, haven't used kde since the 90's
[12:35] <Deathlire> but still should work either way. I'm guessing you installed via shell?
[12:35] <Deathlire> and that you actually have an nvidia thats supported
[12:35] <WillWork4Foo> Hi all - I've installed Ubuntu 12.10 on an encrypted LVM setup, and I'm trying to work out how to add a second disk to create a mirrored volume group. I can't seem to find a howto anywhere - does anyone know of a good guide?
[12:36] <Ned_Flanders> is it normal for ubuntu 12.4 + gnome to be using 1.8gb of memory?
[12:36] <histo> !raid | WillWork4Foo
[12:36] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know if Kernel 3.2.0-26  Supports 3TB HDDs
[12:36] <abetusk> sorry for the stupid question, but I've installed server 12.10 and now I'm only getting a guest and an anonymous login....how do I enable others to login?
[12:36] <histo> BlackWeb: Why wouldn't it?
[12:37] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: Using LVM, you will have to use a third disk to store the metadata for mirroring, or, the mirror will have to be recreated at every bootup. Using LVM for mirroring is a very bad idea.
[12:37] <BlackWeb> Right now I'm banging my head into a wall trying to format my Brand New 3tb Drives
[12:37] <Deathlire> adduser --help or useradd --help
[12:37] <histo> BlackWeb: Use GPT
[12:37] <WillWork4Foo> bekks, ah ok. In that case, is there another thing I can do to mirror my OS disk?
[12:37] <WillWork4Foo> instead of LVM?
[12:37] <histo> BlackWeb: You can't use msdos partioning table you need to use GPT
[12:37] <Ned_Flanders> can anyone help me with a memory leak?
[12:37] <histo> BlackWeb: like gparted or gdisk  or one of the tools that supports it
[12:38] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: Using software raid would be the alternative - or use a hardware raid.
[12:38] <BlackWeb> On 12.04 Server I can format them but after a couple of reboots then it fails to mount the drives so essentially disables system
[12:38] <BlackWeb> I've tried parted and errors out
[12:38] <BlackWeb> Heres what I've tried
[12:38] <histo> BlackWeb: gparted <<<< notice the G
[12:39] <bekks> histo: The g stands for graphical, in terms of gparted. gparted is based on libparted.
[12:39] <histo> bekks: I know but it does gpt
[12:39] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll give gparted a try but ya    parted -a optimal "device" ; mklabel gpt; mkpart; quit ; then mkfs.ext2 "device"
[12:39] <BlackWeb> Does it have to be a certain type?
[12:39] <WillWork4Foo> bekks, OK - is it possible to apply software RAID to an already-installed system? Or is it destructive?
[12:39] <bekks> histo: and the g is totally irrelevant for the features of libparted. :)
[12:40] <BlackWeb> It keep erroring out doing ext3, so now it trying to format it with ext2
[12:40] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: I'd reinstall it - and personally, I dont use encryption.
[12:40] <WillWork4Foo> bekks, OK thanks.
[12:40] <bekks> WillWork4Foo: So you're better of creating a full backup.
[12:40] <histo> BlackWeb: gdisk cgdisk and sgdisk if you want to use a cli app. gparted if you want a gui app for GPT
[12:40] <bekks> BlackWeb: Dont do it. ext2 is an ext3 without a journal.
[12:41] <histo> BlackWeb: What tool did you use to partition the drives/
[12:41] <bekks> BlackWeb: Getting errors errors on mkfs - you should investigate them.
[12:42] <BlackWeb> I've been getting the errors when I'm trying to create a filesystem on the partition
[12:42] <bekks> BlackWeb: And the errors are caused by the MSDOS label you are using. Use GPT, and you will be able to create partitions larger than 2TB.
[12:42] <bekks> BlackWeb: And after creating a partition like that, you will have no problem in using ext4, which is an even better choice than ext3.
[12:42] <BlackWeb> Which so far I've tried using mkfs.ext & parted to do the partitions Both have Failed
[12:42] <bekks> BlackWeb: mkfs doesnt create a partition at all.
[12:43] <histo> BlackWeb: parted should be able to createa  gpt table
[12:43] <BlackWeb> ya used parted to create the partition then mkfs to do the filesystem
[12:43] <Deathlire> new kernels should support 3Tb raids..right?
[12:43] <bekks> BlackWeb:You were using the wrong format. You have to use GPT for a disk > 3TB.
[12:43] <BlackWeb> How would I obtain a newer kernel throught the command line
[12:44] <histo> BlackWeb: It's not the kernel
[12:44] <histo> BlackWeb: Ifyou would listen
[12:44] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, 3 TB is quite small...
[12:44] <BlackWeb> Right now I'm waiting for it to fail again on this format then I'll try those suggestions you mentioned :)
[12:44] <nanashiRei> BlackWeb http://google.com/?q=gpt
[12:45] <nanashiRei> BlackWeb http://google.com/?q=uefi
[12:45] <Deathlire> well they aren't totally huge..but they are bigger than most normal comps. just servers and now I'm remembering this is a server application.
[12:45] <BlackWeb> To be honest I've spent my whole Saturday & Been up for 24hrs trying to get it done, Running on Monster Energy Now
[12:45] <histo> like talking to a wall
[12:45] <Deathlire> maybe you need to rest and the answer will come to those who wait?
[12:46] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, I think the theoretical limit on filesystem size is like 16 exabytes or something silly
[12:46] <histo> BlackWeb: In parted mklabel gpt  then partition
[12:46] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll give that a try
[12:47] <Deathlire> exabytes...wow..wish i had even 1 of those :P
[12:47] <histo> BlackWeb: then format and go to bed
[12:47] <BlackWeb> ;) Cheers lol
[12:47] <Hawkerz> 24h, lightweight :p
[12:48] <Deathlire> i do 96 hours no prob :P but I'm usually done with whatever i tried to achieve and twice more at least :P
[12:49] <c2tarun> is there anyway to change the icon of any app in Unity 2D launcher?
[12:49] <nanashiRei> There is nothing that a 24 cans pallet of Redbull or Coffee can't fix :P
[12:49] <Deathlire> I don't do caffeine at all anymore..kills me really..got some probs...i'm 31
[12:51] <Deathlire> my main technological thing is network/wifi anymore
[12:53] <Deathlire> hmm is konversation actually installed default on ubuntu now?
[12:53] <Hawkerz> maybe
[12:53] <Hawkerz> I haven't done a clean install in some time
[12:53] <Deathlire> i doubt it..he used something other than a normal net :P
[12:54] <Hawkerz> if you installed ubuntu desktop I'd be surprised, but if you installed kubuntu maybe
[12:55] <Deathlire> I haven't done a clean install since maverick..far as ubuntu..last thing i have booted is bt5
[12:55] <Georgy> Hawkerz, any other ideas to fix my problem :( ?
[12:55] <Hawkerz> Georgy, what's the current problem?
[12:55] <Georgy> Same as yesterday
[12:55] <Georgy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043
[12:55] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, the last clean installation I did was MS Dos 6.22
[12:56] <k1l> Deathlire: konverstaion is not a standard program for ubuntu
[12:56] <Deathlire> lol..yeah that was a clean install to nowhere..at least ya didn't say 3.0 :P
[12:56] <k1l> Deathlire: since it uses the gnome base its empathy
[12:56] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, for archival purposes
[12:57] <Deathlire> was figuring that k1l thats the last thing i remember from 11.x something
[12:57] <k1l> Deathlire: konversation is a kde program. it might be standard on kubuntu
[12:57] <sanav> !ot
[12:57] <Deathlire> i actually like win3.11 nice and fast but you have to have some very ancient progs to use it, have those to
[12:58] <k1l> Georgy: what is you actual issue? just pasting a forum thread from 2011 is not supposed to let people help you
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !details|Georgy,
[12:59] <Georgy> cfgowlett, read the link i gave, all details in there
[12:59] <Georgy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857043
[12:59] <Deathlire> i can say without a doubt it may be the pegatron mobo if your using a new distro of ubuntu with the newer Xorg
[13:03] <Lee-C> Hi guys,  can anyone please tell how to use pm-suspend so you need to enter a password on resume like you usually would if clicking the sleep button.  Cheers.
[13:04] <Deathlire> brb in a few
[13:05] <Hawkerz> Georgy, which of those posts is yours...
[13:07] <ronalds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601789/
[13:08] <ronalds> whats wrong with this openbox autostart file
[13:09] <newuser123> whtagwan
[13:10] <coolmanlg> I have a mobile broadband app installed in wine but the app does cannot see the attached usbmodem. Any idea on how I can access the modem from wine?
[13:11] <Deathlire> setup your conf with using usb0-1-2-3 try doing lsusb to find your usb stick
[13:11] <cfhowlett> coolmanlg, I'd be surprised if wine has fully realized USB support ...
[13:12] <Hawkerz> wine barely has 32 bit windows executable support
[13:12] <Georgy> Hawkerz, last one, but i have same pc
[13:12] <Georgy> & problem
[13:12] <coolmanlg> Deathlire, which conf?
[13:12] <histo> !appd | coolmanlg
[13:13] <histo> !appdb | coolmanlg
[13:13] <Deathlire> i've got wine to support quite a few things..usually it supports my usb sticks though
[13:13] <Hawkerz> and the same version of ubuntu? IF all of that is true, Georgy , did you follow the instructions in that thread?
[13:13] <Deathlire> wine.conf or winex
[13:13] <histo> Deathlire: Yeah but he would need drivers that the program would understand
[13:13] <histo> coolmanlg: Any reason you don't use the usbmodem in linux?
[13:13] <Deathlire> yeah..usually i needed all drivers and files for emulating to do it right
[13:14] <Lee-C> Can anyone help me with setting resume from pm-suspend to prompt for password please :)
[13:14] <Deathlire> brb gotta put the hamburger up for slaughter :P
[13:14] <Hawkerz> for software running on wine to have seamless integration with os/hardware seems like it would have to  be a miracle -- it's not like he's just trying to access a bag of bits or some files
[13:14] <coolmanlg> histo: the app provide a means to recharge the modem with credit. I have not been able to find a way to send USSD request via the modem
[13:15] <histo> coolmanlg: What kind of modem is it?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> coolmanlg, perhaps install windows into a virtualbox, install guest additions and run your app ...
[13:16] <histo> +1 for virtual machine
[13:16] <tobzel> For some odd reason I don't understand my libmysqlclient disappeared from /usr/lib. I've already tried to reinstall libmysqlclient-dev and mysql-client but it doesn't reinstall the fiel
[13:16] <histo> coolmanlg: That is your best bet if there is no linux support for it. Getting something like that in wine to work would be a little far fetched.
[13:16] <coolmanlg> huawei e303. cfhowlett: That's what I currently do. I just want the ease of doing everything from.
[13:16] <will0w> hey guys, i switched to ubuntu a while ago its awesome blown away with the scope and freedom! I want to set up a private network, server and developing environment looking for some advice
[13:17] <Hawkerz> coolmanlg, but it does sound like it could be a fun side project to spend your vacation on!
[13:17] <cfhowlett> coolmanlg, you might be asking just a bit too much of wine ...
[13:18] <Hawkerz> I literally just tried getting outlook working in wine
[13:18] <Hawkerz> even that crashed
[13:18] <Georgy> Hawkerz, there is no solution given ?
[13:19] <coolmanlg> histo: I can use the modem in ubuntu. infact that is what am using right now in Ubuntu 12.04.
[13:19] <Hawkerz> you're not even installing the same release,...
[13:19] <histo> coolmanlg: What do you mean a way to recharge credit?
[13:19] <Georgy> Well its the same problem ?
[13:19] <Hawkerz> Georgy, that is.
[13:19] <coolmanlg> Hawkerz: yea. My coding ability is limited to php and a bit of python.
[13:19] <histo> coolmanlg: I doubt that's controlled on a hardware level.
[13:19] <Deathlire> huawei..with a subscription from what provider?
[13:19] <Hawkerz> coolmanlg, yeah, i realized that sounded as thought it was directed at you, but it wasn't
[13:20] <Georgy> Hawkerz, i think its just Asus :(
[13:20] <Hawkerz> histo, but its ability to connect to the internet is probably dependent upon having some system to tell it to do that
[13:20] <coolmanlg> histo: It's prepaid modem with subscripton from a provider.
[13:20] <Hawkerz> Georgy, what is the laptop you're working with?
[13:21] <histo> coolmanlg: So I don't understand why you need their software if it's prepaid
[13:21] <Deathlire> have you considere you also have to siable that *modem* to use as an emulated device since it's not going through loopback for some reason?
[13:21] <histo> coolmanlg: you pay them it works....
[13:21] <Deathlire> disable*
[13:22] <coolmanlg> histo:the modem usually come with windows app that you can use to buy subscription. Huawei has an app for Linux but all effort to get it to work has been futile.
[13:22] <Guest44549> Im trying to get a hang of ARP. Lets say I want to send a packet from x to y via router R. I got R's MAC-address through ARP-query, so an IP-packet is made to B, sent to R which in turn maces another LLF to y. But what will the ARP table on x say on the route to y after that?
[13:22] <histo> coolmanlg: Can you buy a subscription from the providers site?
[13:22] <Deathlire> you need the driver that windows uses to run the modem placed in your wine libs...preffereably a 32 bit one
[13:23] <histo> coolmanlg: Sounds like you have an XY problem
[13:23] <Deathlire> and i cannot spell right now :P
[13:23] <Hawkerz> Guest44549, I'm going to take a random guess and say there is a channel called #networking where you should have that discussion
[13:23] <coolmanlg> histo: What I currently do is to use Windows via Vbox to buy the credit. No, you can't buy from their site.
[13:24] <histo> coolmanlg: Perhaps switch providers
[13:24] <Deathlire> put the drivers for the usb modem into wine..and then restart it, start it up and then emulate the windows software
[13:24] <Guest44549> okay, Hawkerz. Will try that
[13:24] <Hawkerz> coolmanlg, I still think it's going to make a really fun project, but I don't think you're going to finish this weekend
[13:25] <abetusk> exit
[13:25] <coolmanlg> Dealthlire: I will try it and see. Thanks.
[13:25] <abetusk> whoops, sorry
[13:25] <Deathlire> well was gonna help guest out..but if they are a guest..can't help em when they leave
[13:25] <coolmanlg> Deathlire: the driver may emulate the modem?
[13:25] <Deathlire> yeah Hawkerz it isn't something ya do over 10 minutes but, you probably would spend a good night on it
[13:25] <megdanov> someone familiar with audio driver issues and willing to help ? :)
[13:26] <Deathlire> holdon gotta check the meat
[13:26] <Hawkerz> megdanov, be more specific -- we have all heard of them, but I doubt many of us have written one
[13:26] <histo> !ask | megdanov
[13:27] <histo> megdanov: have you tried selecting a different output in the sound properties?
[13:28] <megdanov> srr, it's third time asking and didn't find help and now forgot to be speciffic
[13:28] <megdanov> laptop Toshiba Qosmio x770 . Sub is off
[13:28] <megdanov> the fron speaker work
[13:28] <megdanov> but the sub is not and cant find any driver :(
[13:28] <Hawkerz> did you try installing the driver?
[13:29] <megdanov> i can't find any appropriate driver to install. The speakers are working since installation but not the subwoofer(it's integrated)
[13:30] <Hawkerz> so the subwoofer expects sufficiently powered/amplified output fed through the speakers, yet it doesn't even connect directly to the source?
[13:30] <Hawkerz> my subwoofer works fine, and i definitely don't have any drivers for it
[13:31] <will0w> i found mono useful for creating the right environment to run windows software, you can emulate the .NET and runtime environment in ubuntu, windows progs run better in the right environment
[13:31] <Guest56538> hello
[13:31] <megdanov> it does not require any additional power source
[13:31] <Hawkerz> will0w, can I use mono to install outlook?
[13:31] <megdanov> its integrated in the laptop
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, greetings
[13:31] <megdanov> at the bottom
[13:31] <Hawkerz> oh
[13:31] <Guest56538> :)
[13:31] <Hawkerz> that makes more sense :p
[13:32] <Guest56538> is anyone good at ubuntu?
[13:32] <Hawkerz> i didn't know they put subwoofers you could actually hear anywhere on laptops
[13:32] <Hawkerz> what kind of laptop is it?
[13:32] <megdanov> Toshiba Qosmio X770
[13:32] <will0w> I should imagine it would increase your chances of getting it going, most windows software runs with .Net, my ubuntu at the moment seems to run almost any windows prog without problem not tried outlook but will try it now
[13:32] <Hawkerz> Guest56538, if you have a question please ask it
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !ask|Guest56538
[13:33] <Hawkerz> yeah, that.
[13:33] <will0w> mono has enabled me to have the basic windows software running in the background of ubuntu
[13:33] <will0w> wine program loader and mono
[13:34] <Hawkerz> megdanov, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/944864
[13:34] <Hawkerz> it's a known bug in alsa
[13:34] <Guest56538> ah sorry, all new to this. anyway i live in China and there's this stupid firewall thing; how can i configure my vpn so it punches through and i can finally watch youtube
[13:34] <exalt> hello why does my system crash on this command: sudo memdump > mem.raw
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, you vpn provider should supply that info
[13:35] <megdanov> It seems abandoned
[13:35] <megdanov> I published another one
[13:35] <megdanov> a guy tried to help but no luck
[13:36] <Guest56538> ah, how do i get to that info; like easy step by step instructions
[13:36] <Hawkerz> certainly it does not appear to be high on anyone's priority list
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, which vpn provider did you sign up with
[13:37] <will0w> Guest56538 there might be a tor bridge near you?
[13:37] <hojgaard> anyone know if there still is to be a big secret in raring that only will be known at release?
[13:37] <dannyjoris> hi, I set up Ubuntu Server as a VM in virtualbox, but I can't ping the IP. THe network settings are NAT & Host-Only. It's a fresh install so I assume I need to configure it. ANy idea how?
[13:37] <histo> Guest56538: Do you have a server you can ssh to?
[13:37] <megdanov> Thank you anyway. Hope soon there will be a solution so i don't have to boot away to win just to listen to music
[13:37] <Deathlire> i'm back somewhat for a bit, whats up
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, different providers, different processes ...
[13:38] <Guest56538> i dont know. :( ive just installed ubuntu sorry
[13:38] <cfhowlett> dannyjoris, outside of my area, but I bet #ubuntu-server might know.
[13:38] <dannyjoris> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, so you have NOT bought a vpn package then.  That's step one I guess.  The few free vpn providers are well known and quickly killed by the great firewall
[13:39] <Hawkerz> dannyjoris, you probably have to bind sshd locally
[13:39] <Hawkerz> and if you're also running sshd on the host, you probably want to put one of them on a different port
[13:40] <Hawkerz> then you can just ssh localhost
[13:40] <Deathlire> hmm somebody trying to use the free shell access with no output or otherwise firewalled output?
[13:41] <Guest56538> ah yes, i prob need to buy a vpn service i know i was using freegate on my windows system but it wasnt terribly good
[13:42] <Guest56538> nice country but a stupid ass GCF
[13:42] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, I've given up trying to get YT but there IS a free and easy FB workaround ...
[13:42] <Deathlire> if ya have a home comp not in use..just it as your personal vpn anywhere
[13:43] <jkkl> Is it true Ubuntu is less prone to viruses than Windows?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> jkkl, true
[13:43] <Deathlire> true enough jkkl
[13:44] <Deathlire> just make sure root has a good password or it will be just the same
[13:45] <Guest56538> FB walkaround? or which VPN would you suggest?
[13:45] <jkkl> cfhowlett: Deathlire: Well, I don't get viruses from your mom either. I'm protected. So please cease and desist your blabbering. Are you trying to convice me that not getting any viruses is a symbol of high quality of your choice of software?  Besides, I can make my computer immune to viruses. Just watch. Pop! Did you see that? I
[13:45] <Guest56538> ...vpn provider
[13:45] <Deathlire> Nice, jkkl, you have taken the troll course. :P
[13:46] <Hawkerz> interesting
[13:46] <Hawkerz> I always advocate protection personally
[13:46] <Deathlire> hope they have a deadbolt eh..lol..reminds me of a Defcon
[13:46] <Guest56538> i think jkkl likes linux
[13:46] <jkkl> Guest56538: Why? Linux can't do nothing.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> jkkl, well that's quite original thinking you've got going there pardner!    Then my day if fulfilled.
[13:48] <jkkl> cfhowlett: GOOD
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, see this  http://www.letskis.com/how-unblock-facebook-vietnam-china/
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Guest56538, use this.  took about 30 seconds
[13:48] <cfhowlett> http://www.armabloggin.com/facehost.php
[13:49] <Deathlire> why don't you go chroot -R 777 yourself jkkl :P
[13:49] <Capprentice> hey anyone knows how can make a complete bootable system out of my installed system. actually i wana know how i can use remsatersys ?!
[13:51] <histo> Capprentice: yeap remastersys
[13:51] <histo> !remastersys | Capprentice
[13:51] <Capprentice> histo, how do u cross the 4gm limit ? i have a30 gb system..
[13:52] <histo> Capprentice: well what do you ahve that you are going to fit that on?
[13:53] <Guest56538> thanks...the letskis website is telling me of a XML Parsing Error: unexpected parser state
[13:53] <Capprentice> histo,  i want to make a  complete back up of the whole system !
[13:53] <histo> !backup | Capprentice
[13:53] <Deathlire> rsync woot
[13:54] <histo> Deathlire: meh no compression
[13:54] <histo> but good utility
[13:55] <Deathlire> tried imaging?
[13:55] <histo> Capprentice: dd if=/dev/sdX | gzip -6 > somefile.img
[13:55] <lysy_> 123456
[13:55] <histo> Capprentice: you'll want to do that on an unmounted system.
[13:55] <Deathlire> unmount /dev/sd*
[13:57] <histo> Capprentice: also I would name it somefile.img.gz  so you remember it's gzipped
[13:57] <Deathlire> actually should have said sudo first..but used to being in root really
[13:58] <gustav_> So my steam stuff isn't working. Is this where I complain?
[13:59] <Hawkerz> depends on why it's not working
[13:59] <Hawkerz> but probably not
[13:59] <cfhowlett> gustav_, we don't fix steam ... valve does
[13:59] <Deathlire> not really..but probably in wine...I actualy have a working steam in Wine though
[13:59] <histo> gustav_: no complain to valve
[13:59] <gustav_> Valve doesn't support the Linux client.
[13:59] <Hawkerz> didn't they release it?
[13:59] <gustav_> So no use complaining to them.
[13:59] <histo> gustav_: there is a support section right on their site
[13:59] <Deathlire> I haven't even tried the nix version..lol
[14:00] <gustav_> I've e-mailed them two times or more and they've responded, both times, with that they don't support the Linux client.
[14:00] <Guest56538> i think you should send Valve a strongly worded email
[14:00] <gustav_> I sort of did.
[14:00] <Guest56538> oh yea
[14:00] <gustav_> Yep.
[14:00] <Deathlire> well they told you exactly what they mean..use a windows based one and wine it
[14:00] <Hawkerz> gustav_, if you can provide error messages it's possible we can help
[14:00] <histo> gustav_: Pleas go to the support site
[14:00] <gustav_> histo: It's not a known problem I don't think.
[14:01] <histo> gustav_: you won't know if you don't check
[14:01] <Deathlire> hmm what is your problem?
[14:01] <gustav_> It's something optirun/bumblebee.
[14:01] <Hawkerz> ah
[14:01] <Guest56538> what game do you want to play on steam?
[14:01] <Hawkerz> are you optirun'ing steam?
[14:01] <gustav_> I get an X11-error.
[14:01] <gustav_> Yep.
[14:02] <gustav_> And then when I launch the game (tried two different ones) it reports some kind of X11-error.
[14:02] <Deathlire> what game though?
[14:02] <Hawkerz> gustav_, a copy of the error message would be very useful
[14:02] <Hawkerz> gustav_, use ubuntu's pastebin service -- I can't remember the URL but hmmm
[14:02] <Hawkerz> !paste
[14:03] <Georgy> Hawkerz
[14:03] <Hawkerz> yep?
[14:03] <Georgy> Should i get myself Linux Mint, cause i cant get ubuntu ?
[14:04] <Deathlire> mint kinda sucks..its
[14:04] <Hawkerz> I'm still not clear on what the issue is with ubuntu.  You have an installation DVD correct?
[14:04] <gustav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601935/ This is for Team Fortress 2.
[14:04] <Georgy> yes
[14:04] <Georgy> it just my pc
[14:04] <Hawkerz> put it in the drive, moved your cd/dvdrom drive to the top of the boot order?
[14:04] <Guest56538> cool game
[14:04] <Hawkerz> and did you wind up in ubuntu?
[14:05] <Georgy> yes
[14:05] <Georgy> i get the instalation meny
[14:05] <gustav_> TF2 used to work great but when I upgraded it installed some extra package. That's my suspect but I can't remember it's name.
[14:05] <Hawkerz> okay, then what happened?
[14:05] <Georgy> but when i choose anyhting
[14:05] <Georgy> fomr the menu, i get a blac kscreen with white dash
[14:05] <Georgy> on top
[14:05] <Hawkerz> gustav_, that error message is worthlessly vague
[14:05] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I agree.
[14:05] <Hawkerz> Georgy, which menu?
[14:06] <Guest56538> i love kebab
[14:06] <Deathlire> hmm TF2, actually got a buddy that does TF2 server recoding..and we both use Wine emulating for them, it does pretty well if you have eerything installed
[14:06] <gustav_> Will apt-get purge steam remove all the packages it uses?
[14:06] <gustav_> Hmm.
[14:06] <Georgy> the installation menu
[14:06] <Georgy> when i start up pc
[14:06] <Georgy> with live cd
[14:07] <Hawkerz> gustav_, anything in ~/.xsession-errors? or /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[14:07] <Deathlire> it is probably an X server thats not really compatible with your setup..least I have found with my older systems anyways..is it an older system?
[14:07] <jammsen> hi guys, i try to run teamviewer on my ubuntu 12.10 but when someone connects on my meeting the screen is just white, i dont find a reason why. Could please help me someone? Im using the current version of teamviewer.
[14:07] <Hawkerz> gustav_, if you pastebin your /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf it would be a good place to start from
[14:07] <gustav_> Hawkerz: BadWindow blabla.
[14:07] <Georgy> Hawkerz, you got ubuntu yourself ?
[14:07] <Hawkerz> yep
[14:08] <Georgy> 12.10 ?
[14:08] <Hawkerz> on every computer I use in fact
[14:08] <Hawkerz> ah, no
[14:08] <Georgy> wich version ?
[14:08] <Hawkerz> I stick to long term support releases generally
[14:08] <Hawkerz> so 12.04
[14:08] <Georgy> Where can i find the 12.04 ?
[14:09] <Hawkerz> Georgy, does it boot you into an ubuntu live system? or does it take you to something like this http://andrewtheart.tripod.com/linux/Images/Ubuntu-InstallMenu.jpg
[14:09] <Deathlire> on ubuntu.org
[14:09] <gustav_> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5601945/ It's standard, I think.
[14:09] <Georgy> last one
[14:09] <Hawkerz> gustav_, did you just install bumblebee + optirun?
[14:09] <Georgy> but more modern version
[14:09] <cfhowlett> www.ubuntu.com
[14:09] <Georgy> with different background
[14:10] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Ehm... optirun is in bumblebee, I think...
[14:10] <Hawkerz> Georgy, so you choose 'install ubuntu' and it goes to a black screen?
[14:10] <Georgy> yes
[14:10] <Georgy> and i tried
[14:10] <Hawkerz> gustav_, do you have primus installed?
[14:10] <Georgy> nomodeset
[14:10] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Yep? It matters?
[14:10] <Deathlire> everything matters :P brb
[14:10] <Hawkerz> Georgy, did you try the 'try ubuntu' option?
[14:11] <Georgy> yes
[14:11] <Georgy> try ubuntu without installing
[14:11] <Hawkerz> and had the same experience?
[14:11] <Georgy> yes
[14:12] <Hawkerz> interesting....can you tell me the model of the laptop you're on?
[14:12] <gustav_> primusrun is broken on this machine.
[14:12] <Georgy> Asus X71SL
[14:12] <Georgy> GeForce 9300M GS
[14:12] <Georgy> 2.00 ghz
[14:12] <Georgy> 3gb ram
[14:12] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I believe you need Bridge=auto in the optirun section
[14:13] <Hawkerz> at least if you have the latest version...
[14:14] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Ok. Do I restart bumblebee somehow...?
[14:14] <Hawkerz> sudo service bumblebeed restart
[14:14] <gustav_> Oops. HoN died. :>
[14:14] <Hawkerz> HoN? game?
[14:14] <gustav_> Yep.
[14:14] <Georgy> Hawkerz, any ideas ?
[14:15] <Hawkerz> what machine are you running? I have the same exact configuration as you
[14:15] <Hawkerz> Georgy, probably, I'm looking
[14:15] <gustav_> A laptop.
[14:15] <Hawkerz> gustav_, make and model would be particularly useful
[14:15] <Georgy> HAwkerz Thanks :D
[14:15] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Same problem. Ok. Clevo P150EM.
[14:15] <Hawkerz> hmmk. lets see
[14:16] <gustav_> I think it's a configuration problem with Steam. Wrong packages.
[14:16] <Hawkerz> if you want to try reinstalling steam that's certainly an option
[14:16] <jammsen> hi guys, i try to run teamviewer on my ubuntu 12.10 but when someone connects on my meeting the screen is just white, i dont find a reason why. Could please help me someone? Im using the current version of teamviewer.
[14:17] <Hawkerz> it could easily be any number of fairly common problems with the nvidia/bumblebee setup
[14:17] <gustav_> Hawkerz: What's the correct way? apt-get purge steam? I think there's some i386 version installed as well...
[14:17] <gustav_> Ah. :/
[14:17] <Hawkerz> if you do dpkg -l | grep steam
[14:17] <Hawkerz> it will show you all of the isntalled packages
[14:18] <GranoSalis> hi
[14:18] <Hawkerz> Georgy, here is one suggestion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814221
[14:18] <Hawkerz> (last post)
[14:18] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, greetings
[14:19] <Deathlire> jammsen : your wine isn't setup correctly is all, Last time iused teamviewer it was 7+ so it's probably wine related try an 'apt-get update wine'
[14:20] <Deathlire> in terminal, that is.
[14:20] <Georgy> Hawkerz, what am i supposed to do with the codes :( ?
[14:21] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett:  thanks
[14:21] <Georgy> Allright i got solution
[14:21] <Georgy> let me try
[14:21] <Georgy> brb
[14:21] <Hawkerz> Georgy, when your system is first booting up, get into the bios (f2 or something)
[14:21] <GranoSalis> could someone help me with Firefox?
[14:21] <Hawkerz> 3 minutes of googling for that one
[14:21] <Deathlire> yeah download chromium
[14:22] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, details???
[14:22] <Hawkerz> gustav_, do you have PMMethod defined in the [driver-nvidia] section of your bumblebee.conf?
[14:22] <GranoSalis> Deathlire: i got used to FF
[14:22] <Deathlire> well whats the problem with it?
[14:22] <gustav_> Hawkerz: auto.
[14:23] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett: how do i change the "icon's" of firefox?
[14:23] <GranoSalis> to look more like the ones in windows
[14:23] <joakimw> Hey guys. I'm having this weird problem with my keyboard layout. After boot its always American English, even though the only language I have added is Danish. If i add any other language and remove it, its turned to Danish. Any way I can make sure it's defaulted to Danish when I boot? Ubuntu 12.10
[14:23] <jammsen> Deathlire: i have done that wine version 1.4.1
[14:23] <jammsen> nothing helped
[14:23] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, I think you want to add a windows "theme" from firefox addons ...
[14:23] <Deathlire> well, I'd suggest you use windows, if you want windows. but if you want to change some icons usually a right click on an icon can help you
[14:23] <Hawkerz> gustav_, and you are a member of the bumblebee group? from a command prompt run 'groups'
[14:24] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Yep.
[14:24] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett:  thanks and heres a bigger problem,when i go to ,lets say youtube,and want to use the search bar i dont see the letters i type
[14:24] <Deathlire> jammsen : also no problems hen it installed?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, see "windows classic for firefox 18.0.0"
[14:25] <GranoSalis> I'm using FF Nightly
[14:25] <jammsen> Deathlire: its all up-to-date
[14:25] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, you're on unity I take it?
[14:25] <jammsen> but when you would connect from windows, its white
[14:25] <GranoSalis> cfhowlett: nope im on Debian with Awesome
[14:26] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you have updated all of this since Bumblebee 3.1 was released?
[14:26] <Deathlire> TV doesn't play well with viewing the unix client very well, albeit it usually does a good job, but remember it's all beta..it's main focus is helping windows users
[14:26] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Updated what?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> GranoSalis, never used debian but I think if you change your desktop environment or display themes ...
[14:27] <Hawkerz> bumblebee/primus
[14:27] <Guest56538> ok guys i gtg
[14:27] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I think it's the only version I've ever used.
[14:27] <hellier> Hey, does anyone know how to get soundblaster wirelessheaders to connect through bluetooth? :|
[14:27] <Hawkerz> gustav_, run 'bumblebeed --version' and tell me what version you're on
[14:27] <hellier> wireless head phones*
[14:28] <gustav_> 3.1
[14:28] <Hawkerz> okay...is this a new installation for you?
[14:28] <Fuzzles> gustav_, what version
[14:28] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Never reinstalled, not new as in new. Maybe 6 months.
[14:29] <Hawkerz> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/bumblebee-31-released-with-primus.html <- i'd probably reinstall from the ppa following those instructions
[14:29] <gustav_> Fuzzles: 3.1.
[14:29] <gustav_> Oh boy. -.-" Headache.
[14:29] <oldude67> anyone got a reason why when installing samba4 and its deps. does my ubuntu 12.10 starts crashing before i even use it?
[14:30] <Hawkerz> it won't be too bad, feel free to pm if you want help
[14:30] <gustav_> Primus has been buggy, I don't like it.
[14:30] <Hawkerz> I literally just reinstalled mine today
[14:30] <Hawkerz> and it works much better
[14:30] <gustav_> I got flickering.
[14:30] <Deathlire> ahh samba.. apt-get update samba*
[14:30] <gustav_> Yes, it's faster, but.
[14:30] <Hawkerz> hmm, before we go crazy on this one though, what if you run steam without optirun?
[14:30] <calwig> hi, i have a 20Gb free partition, between 2 other existing ext2 partitions, where linux resides. All ok, except that Im installing Windows in that free partition, and the setup wont let me
[14:31] <calwig> How can I move the 20Gb out of the center of the hard drive and on to the BEG or END of the drive? Gparted will only allow resize, not move
[14:31] <priyal> Hi all. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and am not able connect to internet vi lan cable.. It always shows me up: "Cable unplugged"
[14:31] <Hawkerz> calwig, the only way to re-order partitions is to rewrite the partition table
[14:32] <priyal> Please help and guide, am badly stuck here
[14:32] <priyal> I tried to follow up this documentation : http://askubuntu.com/questions/161482/wired-connection-not-working-ubuntu-12-04
[14:32] <priyal> But it too didn't help
[14:32] <Deathlire> try rebooting a few times til it lets you calwig ..or use an old 16/32 bit program like nortons partition magic..or just use the good ol parted or gparted. part magic will move your small partition. but it's better to back it up
[14:32] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Works. I remember, but TF2 is too slow to play.
[14:32] <Hawkerz> yeah, figures
[14:33] <gustav_> You insulting my Intel GPU? :O
[14:33] <Deathlire> i'll insult an intel gpu :P
[14:33] <Hawkerz> is it the xxxx 4000 or whatever ?
[14:33] <Hawkerz> if so, yes
[14:33] <gustav_> xD
[14:33] <gustav_> Yeah.
[14:33] <Deathlire> i insult my own gpu..an radeon 6530hd
[14:34] <calwig> Hawkerz, oh, rewrite partition tables, how?
[14:35] <priyal> pleAse help !
[14:35] <gustav_> Probably the 3.1 update that broke everything for me.
[14:35] <priyal>  I am not able to figure out the problem
[14:36] <Hawkerz> best bet would be to create an image of the partition on the outer part of the drive, then write it to be sequentially after the other partition so you are not sandwiching windows
[14:36] <Hawkerz> though I'm not actually certain you can write windows anywhere but 1st, all my dual boot systems have been that way
[14:36] <Hawkerz> gustav_, it's likely, but it's salvageable if you want to make it work
[14:37] <calwig> Hawkerz, interesting
[14:37] <six2> dern new 8Mb cable is suckin
[14:37] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I'm interested in the output of sudo lshw -c display
[14:38] <Sebus> Hello. I need some help - trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on my crappy asus a6rp with radeon graphics card and upgraded t2250 cpu - it just crash with random characters on boot or even if it boots up from cd/pendrive to gui, screen starts blinking after several minutes no matter if external screen is connected. how to force lower res on gui boot?
[14:38] <Hawkerz> what is with the asus problems today :/
[14:38] <cfhowlett> Sebus, did you 1. verify the iso with md5sum and 2. check for disk errors at boot?
[14:39] <Deathlire> asus is an old problem :P
[14:39] <Sebus> cfhowlett: before I used win9x/xp/7 multiboot
[14:39] <Sebus> memtest - no errors
[14:39] <Sebus> hdat2 - no errors
[14:39] <gustav_> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602024/
[14:39] <Sebus> and yes, images were verified
[14:40] <Hawkerz> Sebus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814221 <- possibly
[14:40] <oldude67> well as soon as i uninstall samba4 system stops crashing.
[14:40] <Hawkerz> also did you try booting with nomodeset enabled
[14:40] <calwig> Deathlire, so somehow rebooting a few times will allow Vista to install?
[14:40] <Hawkerz> calwig, no, Deathlire is confusing windows and linux
[14:40] <Sebus> Hawkerz: I'll try that, now i'm sitting on other terminal machine, hard to use links
[14:41] <Deathlire> well sometimes it does, for win7 ultimate..not sure about vista..
[14:42] <Deathlire> actually had that problem the other day when someone refused to format their c: drive ..t didn't want to do anything but finally it did..and i told them good luck lol..
[14:42] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you have nearly the same configuration of hardware as me
[14:42] <Hawkerz> I will paste my configuration
[14:43] <avi143> Plz suggest any free resource to learn linux commands..
[14:44] <Deathlire> it's always good to do a really nice 24 hour format of your drives before installing any Os..of course normal formatting does well, but doesn't get to all the problem areas (ex. dban boot n nuke)
[14:44] <gustav_> Hawkerz: What should I do now exactly? Reinstall bumblebee? That can go horribly wrong. xC
[14:44] <Hawkerz> nah, give me a second and I'll give you a good set of instructions
[14:45] <gustav_> Alrighty.
[14:46] <calwig> i see
[14:47] <Hawkerz> gustav_, one thing that'd be helpful would be to know which ppa's you have enabled
[14:48] <avi143> (avi143) Plz suggest any free resource to learn linux commands..2
[14:48] <Deathlire> linux.org
[14:49] <compdoc> google
[14:49] <Deathlire> or man pages within to learn bash
[14:49] <Deathlire> yep google is your friend :P
[14:49] <Mcmxc> man pages is difficult to read..
[14:50] <kurteknikk> Hi, anybody knows of any issue with  logrotate and mysql ? My issue is that the the user exists and it has the correct password but i still get: error: error running shared postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log '
[14:50] <kurteknikk> run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1
[14:50] <gustav_> Hawkerz: source.list.d dir: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602060/
[14:50] <Hawkerz> oh
[14:50] <Hawkerz> xorg edgers eh? did you install the experimental nvidia driver?
[14:51] <Deathlire> do 92.
[14:51] <gustav_> Hm, I don't think so... I'm using 313...something.
[14:51] <Deathlire> if your using an intel gpu..try the old version it's like 9x something
[14:51] <avi143> Linux.org is aweaome
[14:52] <gustav_> 313.09.
[14:52] <avi143> Thanku
[14:52] <Hawkerz> gustav_, that's certainly a potential issue, since the driver may be called something else when it runs
[14:52] <gustav_> Deathlire: Me? It doesn't support my GPU, I think.
[14:52] <gustav_> Hawkerz: o_O
[14:52] <Deathlire> i never could get my other comp with an intel to use the experimental driver
[14:53] <gustav_> I don't know how anything of this works.
[14:54] <Deathlire> but that was on an older version of Xorg and even ubuntu actually..it just seemed like anything newer would kill it no matter the distro was a P4 based
[14:54] <Deathlire> was like an Intel 85* based gpu or 87*
[14:54] <Hawkerz> gustav_, run:  'vblank_mode=0 optirun glxspheres' -- let it run for a few seconds, kill the window it ambushes you with, and pastebin the output of the run as well as the output of 'dmesg | grep -i nvidia'
[14:55] <Hawkerz> (but the dmesg output only is useful after you do the optirun'
[14:55] <Deathlire> i'll stay out of this convo seems Hawkerz has it down..
[14:56] <gustav_> It looks good.
[14:56] <gustav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602076/
[14:57] <Hawkerz> gustav_, and my only other question is whether you had primus installed before -- if you installed 6 months ago, you likely did have primus installed... the output of apt-cache showpkg primus
[14:58] <Hawkerz> your card puts mine to shame
[14:58] <gustav_> Hawkerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602080/ Yep.
[14:58] <Hawkerz> i guess i should upgrade my drivers
[14:59] <gustav_> I got 304 with primusrun, but primusrun doesn't seem to work in practice with real applications.
[15:00] <gustav_> It flickers.
[15:00] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I had the exact same setup and I upgraded today
[15:00] <gustav_> Ok...
[15:00] <gustav_> And your steam works?
[15:00] <Hawkerz> gustav_, sudo apt-get purge primus && sudo ppa-purge ppa:zhurikhin/primus
[15:00] <gustav_> :O
[15:00] <Hawkerz> you may need an apt-get update somewhere in there
[15:01] <gustav_> Done.
[15:01] <gustav_> Trying optirun steam.
[15:02] <gustav_> Same problem.
[15:02] <Hawkerz> technically after you do the purge, you should sudo apt-get install primus primus-libs-ia32:i386
[15:03] <gustav_> Ok.
[15:03] <Hawkerz> gustav_, you just deleted primus, reinstalled it, and now need to set your config properly
[15:03] <alainus> how do i run a program from a console without it outputting to it? I'm using "$ commandname &" right now... but it's not exactly it (it still outputs when opened/closed, and opens a second window of the program)
[15:04] <Deathlire> try && if on a shell?
[15:05] <POVaddct> alainus: you want the console output of the command suppressed? redirect stdout and stderr to /dev/null: "$ commandname >/dev/null 2>&1 &"
[15:06] <Hawkerz> gustav_, and then use something like this for config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602111/
[15:06] <Vegombrei> hi .. currently on ntfs partition windows 7 gonna install ubuntu, so correct me if im wrong, i can simply download the 64bit ubuntu and install and allocate the space when it comes up etc, does it also do the bootloader and give me the option to boot from windows?
[15:07] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, yes, that is all handled automatically
[15:07] <Hawkerz> the modern ubuntu installation requires almost no work at all (unless you are on an asus laptop apparently)
[15:07] <Deathlire> nice how the new versions use native ntfs like that..
[15:07] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: so i dont have to get that windows installer one right?
[15:07] <Hawkerz> i would strongly advise against using wubi
[15:07] <Loki_> Greetings.
[15:08] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: i cant get the one i can put on a usb and install
[15:08] <bau-> hi all, I have downloaded ubuntu 12.04 64bit but can't burn it on a 700mb (80 min) cd from windows 7, it says it's not enough space, why?
[15:08] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, but you can get an iso and burn it, no?
[15:08] <Loki_> How can I choose between environments in text mode?
[15:08] <Deathlire> in all my time..always mattered when ya installed any os, and had to format or delete a partition just to use things
[15:09] <Hawkerz> Loki_, which environments?
[15:09] <Hawkerz> bau-, are you attempting to burn it as a disk image?
[15:09] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: frighin grandma used up all the blank dvds its too cold to venture out dude
[15:09] <Loki_> For example: startx KDE -  startx gnome
[15:09] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, so you have no dvd's and you have no usb sticks?
[15:09] <bau-> Hawkerz, yes, I'm using cd burner xp and burning as a disk image
[15:09] <Deathlire> anybody know if enlightenment is ever being updated? i'm gonna guess no
[15:10] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: i have plenty of usb sticks
[15:10] <Hawkerz> Loki_, why are you trying to start x window servers from the console?
[15:10] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, so you can install from there right?
[15:10] <Loki_> Hawkerz: Later I have installed ubuntu desktop in my backtrack, without see it, My O.S. became ubuntu LL.
[15:11] <Loki_> Hawkerz: My system is backtrack.. based on ubuntu..
[15:11] <Loki_> look my earlier message please...
[15:11] <Deathlire> backtrack is based on debian eh..but uses some thngs from ubu
[15:11] <Hawkerz> ah...and you want to have control over which desktop environment starts up
[15:11] <Deathlire> i know quite a bit about bt eh
[15:11] <Hawkerz> when I had to worry about that I just threw it in .xinitrc I think
[15:11] <Laiquendi> Guys, anybody can answer me some nooby questions about ubuntu for smartphones?
[15:12] <Hawkerz> unlikely
[15:12] <Hawkerz> i'm not even sure if its out yet?
[15:12] <Laiquendi> yeah this is one of those questions...
[15:12] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: yeah but back to my question, i donno what to download ... apparently there are three of them ... one that is a windows installer one thats the standard (my preference) and then theres this one LTS or something .... which do i download onto my usb stick?
[15:12] <Laiquendi> i can't get straight answer from the internet
[15:12] <Deathlire> ubuntu isn't out for arm completely..you can do some mods to use it on a droid though
[15:13] <xangua> !phone | Laiquendi
[15:13] <Laiquendi> thanks
[15:13] <Deathlire> depends on your phones total memory and cpu power though
[15:13] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, there are a couple of options -- you have really two different releases to choose from -- 12.04 which is long term support, and 12.10 which includes a bit more on the feature side but imo is also a bit buggier
[15:13] <Loki_> Hawkerz: Can you, please, tell me how can I choose between KDE and Gnome in the text mode?
[15:13] <IvelfanFr> Bonjour/Hello
[15:14] <Loki_> Or anybody? How can I choose between environments in text mode?
[15:14] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, after you figure that out, you have 3 download options -- Wubi installer, CD/DVD, or USB.
[15:14] <Deathlire> it's a passion of mine to flash the androids and such..can even run a version of windows CE on them
[15:15] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, but Wubi is not a 'real' ubuntu install for all intents and purposes.  It is ridiculously easy to use, but it isn't so easy to move your stuff into a proper installation if you ever decide you're sick of being tied to windows
[15:15] <IvelfanFr> I have a problem with my new computer. When I start my computer on Ubuntu 12.04, when I launch Firefox, all software have a freeze.
[15:15] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: ok so im downloading 12.10, ill install it from usb, will it gimme the option to boot from windows when i need windows ,
[15:15] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, of course installing ubuntu to the MBR has it's own challenges if you decide later you want to remove it and keep windows
[15:16] <Hawkerz> yes, it will give you a selection menu and i think 10 seconds by default to navigate (probably will boot linux by default unless you change it)
[15:16] <Deathlire> if you install it..grub should automatically place it within the boot menu..if not you can run a command and make it work
[15:16] <Hawkerz> grub will do it, for sure
[15:16] <Deathlire> don't tell me they replaced grub recently?
[15:17] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: ok great, i prefer ubuntu .. but i have certain stuff like cameras etc that have windows software so occasionally i need windows
[15:17] <Hawkerz> well grub2...works pretty well
[15:17] <ferronica> Need help regarding NDISWrapper with WG311 V3 WLAN
[15:17] <billkd> Deathlire: They use grub2 at least on my raring box.
[15:17] <Deathlire> well Vegombrei : in console type 'apt-get install wine*'
[15:17] <Hawkerz> Vegombrei, okay, so just um, don't wipe your ubuntu partition later, or, not without rebuilding the windows master boot record
[15:17] <Hawkerz> meh
[15:17] <Hawkerz> wine isn't nearly that good
[15:17] <billkd> ferronica: Are you sure you need ndiswrapper? Try native drivers first.
[15:17] <IvelfanFr> Someone can help me, I don't why Firefox have a freeze.
[15:17] <Deathlire> well grub21 is stil grub..a lil different but still uses the same conf at least
[15:18] <Hawkerz> for real time streaming video i wouldn't want to be fighting with wine
[15:18] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, enlightenment was updated btw
[15:18] <Hawkerz> this year
[15:18] <Vegombrei> Hawkerz: i understand
[15:18] <Loki_> Hawkerz: Hello - oo
[15:18] <ferronica> billkd, for Netgear WG311V3
[15:18] <Hawkerz> Loki_, hi, I don't know, I don't use gnome or kde anymore and I'm not sure if they are invoked the same way
[15:18] <ferronica> billkd, you know where to get Netgear Driver for ubuntu 12.04 34bit
[15:18] <ferronica> billkd, you know where to get Netgear Driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[15:19] <Deathlire> haha nice..i used to use enlightenment back when i had like mandrake 7 installed many years ago :P
[15:19] <Hawkerz> please don't spam, ferronica
[15:19] <Hawkerz> try jockey-gtk for proprietary drivers
[15:19] <ferronica> Hawkerz, Oh Sorry
[15:19] <Deathlire> if you can't get a driver for it..you can actually modprobe it
[15:20] <Hawkerz> ferronica, it that is -- 'additional drivers'
[15:20] <Deathlire> should be able to anyways..i always had to with my pci trendnet for some reason
[15:20] <ferronica> Deathlire, how im new in linux
[15:20] <Hawkerz> you can go to the dash and look for it or I believe it's in system settings as well
[15:20] <ferronica> Hawkerz, no
[15:20] <Hawkerz> just click on the top left button on the launcher and type 'additional drivers' ...
[15:20] <Hawkerz> is this for a network card or a router?
[15:21] <ferronica> Hawkerz, For WLAN Card Driver WG311 V3
[15:21] <Deathlire> if your new to linux then i'd suggest heeding to Hawkerz suggestions..and if it just won't work i may have a fix
[15:21] <billkd> ferronica: Any reason for using an LTS? They are usually made for large scale deployments not end users. Try upgrading to 12.10.
[15:21] <Deathlire> uhh cause its long term Support...
[15:21] <ferronica> billkd, same problem with 12.10
[15:22] <Hawkerz> eh, billkd, would you give me the same advice? can you promise it won't be, in point of fact, signing me up for an afternoon of recovery?
[15:22] <ferronica> Deathlire, yes
[15:22] <billkd> ferronica: When you installe did you check the "install nonfree software" box?
[15:22] <billkd> ferronica: I think that includes some wifi drivers
[15:22] <ferronica> billkd, yes i did
[15:22] <Hawkerz> gustav_, any luck?
[15:22] <billkd> What is the manufacturer and model number of your wireless device?
[15:23] <Hawkerz> ferronica, more information about your system would be helpful -- sudo lshw -c net
[15:23] <Deathlire> I'm gonna take a guess and say this is an older belkin wifi stick?
[15:23] <ferronica> billkd, right now im using NDISWrapper and WLAN working fine for now if i reboot again it wont work
[15:23] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Testing things. Steam TF2 & Dwarfs F2P works great with primusrun.
[15:23] <Hawkerz> post the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:23] <Hawkerz> sweet
[15:23] <Deathlire> ahh you need a script then to work on booting then
[15:23] <billkd> ferronica: Do you have to run a command or something to keep it working? Never used ndiswrapper so wouldn't know.
[15:23] <gustav_> No flickering in Ho
[15:23] <Deathlire> that way you don't have to type it all back out
[15:23] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I have not actually tried combining optirun with the new primus bridge thing
[15:23] <gustav_> in HoN, yet.
[15:24] <Hawkerz> but i'm glad it works!
[15:24] <ferronica> billkd, just downloaded NDIS from Software center
[15:24] <Deathlire> I've used ndiswrapper plenty it worked well but i needed to have it cron'ed though
[15:24] <Hawkerz> ferronica, did you configure it from the command line or did you do it from a gui
[15:24] <Deathlire> brb i'll look up my old info for my driver..it should be almost the same for you
[15:24] <ferronica> if you know and want to check config take teamviewer
[15:25] <ferronica> Hawkerz, From GUI
[15:25] <gustav_> Hawkerz: This is glxspheres, prepare to weep. :P http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602173/
[15:25] <ferronica> Hawkerz, Im new in Linux world
[15:25] <Hawkerz> !!!!!
[15:25] <Deathlire> uhmm..how did you do anything with ndiswrapper from gui? ok...
[15:25] <ferronica> Hawkerz, take TeamViewer
[15:25] <Hawkerz> ferronica, no worries
[15:25] <Hawkerz> i'll find what you need
[15:25] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, there's some gui client, i could never figure it out
[15:25] <gustav_> I don't think it's max, even. Because there is some pesky energy saving thing that's throttling the CPU.
[15:25] <Deathlire> holdon a sec..brb..i'll give you the info to keep it working from the way it is.
[15:26] <IvelfanFr> All my screen freeze when i launch firefox >.<
[15:26] <Deathlire> the gui client doesn't do it right is all i'm sayin from the wrapper
[15:26] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I'm trying to change bridge...
[15:27] <Hawkerz> 203.466722 frames/sec - 227.068862 Mpixels/sec <- when I run it properly
[15:27] <Hawkerz> I'm not even sure what the bridge options are
[15:27] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Not bad.
[15:28] <gustav_> Hawkerz: I thought primusrun was an option. It was not.
[15:28] <Hawkerz> ferronica, this might be helpful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76313/how-to-keep-ndiswrapper-configuration-after-reboot
[15:28] <Hawkerz> here, the correct syntax is apparently this:
[15:28] <Deathlire> hmm actually all i have are drivers for it..and a bunch of other things but not the text explaining how to do it anymore..and no the drivers aren't for your card..hmm
[15:29] <Hawkerz> gustav_, hawk@hurin ~ » optirun -b primus glxspheres
[15:29] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Works.
[15:29] <Hawkerz> though when you are testing from a vte you should run it with vblank_mode=0
[15:30] <gustav_> vblank_mode can be set to default to 0, I think.
[15:30] <Deathlire> I went and bought a card that would run native with linux the good ol rt2500 or linksys wrt54gusb
[15:30] <gustav_> TF 2 lags if it's not 0.
[15:30] <holmesc> hi
[15:31] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Thanks A LOT for helping me, though. I have had a hard time getting this to work, getting the thumb out of the behind so to speak. So thanks.
[15:32] <Hawkerz> gustav_, trust me, having spent literally full days trying to get graphics working in the past, I am always happy to help if I can
[15:32] <gustav_> Hawkerz: :)
[15:32] <Hawkerz> fortunately for you I have the same exact hardware configuration and literally just finished doing the same exact thing
[15:32] <gustav_> Bumblebee is a new bag for me.
[15:32] <gustav_> xD
[15:32] <Hawkerz> I was definitely unimpressed with primusrun as a replacement for optirun before but this configuration seems to do its job
[15:33] <Deathlire> gpu is a pain sometimes..spent many nights myself a bit back especially when they didn't have total support for my cards..
[15:33] <gustav_> Hawkerz: ...why? You just have to change the command, right? Firefox is the only thing I have configured (in WindowMaker) to launch with optirun.
[15:35] <Hawkerz> gustav_, I think primusrun was not being switched properly or something...I tried to run firefox and my computer just overheated all the time
[15:35] <Hawkerz> and ran slow...but again, these things are so kind of arcane and mystical that who knows what the reason was
[15:36] <Hawkerz> anyway, as far as I'm concerned it's a miracle that this is the problem I have now...I had quite a struggle with a dell mini 10 and the GMA500/Poulsbo card
[15:36] <Deathlire> get a desktop :P
[15:36] <Deathlire> lol
[15:37] <m4rtins> Hello! I'm new to Ubuntu and have a problem. The wifi seems much slower and a bit more instable on Ubuntu 12.10 than on macosx, i have a dual-boot install on my macbook air.
[15:37] <Deathlire> if ya got a laptop don't expect total control..or some pentesting with bt
[15:37] <NachoPoncho> Hey, I've been trying to get a straight answer from Google to no avail, but does Ubuntu for Android effectively run all Ubuntu apps *without* docking?
[15:38] <Deathlire> Sorry, I can't help with mac/apple probs..never will use one eh
[15:38] <NachoPoncho> ^
[15:39] <Deathlire> NachoPoncho depends on your cpu and ram really when it comes to android..what apps do you want to run..really?
[15:40] <NachoPoncho> I was wondering if ubuntu for android allowed mobile access to the repos for the respective architecture
[15:40] <NachoPoncho> For example, would I be able to use the ARM port of Gimp etc. without docking?
[15:40] <Deathlire> I'm sure it would, but I'd consider it being a bit slower on upgrading since it''s using the ARM arch
[15:40] <Hawkerz> Deathlire, I have a desktop -- several
[15:41] <whoami> any free VPS..?
[15:41] <NachoPoncho> I'm trying to decide if I want to wait for the Ubuntu phone or settle for and Android with Ubuntu running on it
[15:41] <Hawkerz> yes
[15:41] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Exactly. I just gave up. I tried asking the actual primus people and they just naaw, there's no problem.
[15:41] <Deathlire> why would ya use gimp persay on an android eh?
[15:41] <Hawkerz> whoami, you can have all the free VPS you want, you just need to supply the hardware and configure it with the free software the ubuntu community supplies you with
[15:41] <Hawkerz> gustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602224/
[15:41] <llutz> !phone | NachoPoncho
[15:41] <Hawkerz> seems to be what it's supposed to look like
[15:42] <whoami> ok thanks
[15:42] <Hawkerz> I guess the drivers have gotten that much better since 3.04...could be worth pursuing
[15:42] <NachoPoncho> The Gimp was just an example, but I currently have a Nokia N900
[15:42] <gustav_> Hawkerz: You have a bit too close to my performance for sanity. I have the top-of-the-line 680M.
[15:42] <Deathlire> the only real application for androids so far seems to be modding droids to use ubu running backtrack so far...with very limited support
[15:43] <NachoPoncho> I like it because of the amount of freedom I have to mess with my phone, although Nokia stopped supporting it
[15:43] <Hawkerz> sure, I can match you when I'm only running xchat and a web browser and neither of them on my nvidia card :p
[15:43] <Deathlire> the N900 is actually perfect for ubu..from what i've read
[15:43] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Sure hope so! :P
[15:43] <NachoPoncho> I figure it's time for a new phone, and I was looking into Ubuntu for phones, since I use Lubuntu on my laptop
[15:44] <NachoPoncho> The N900 only overclocks it's single core to around 1150 Mhz :c
[15:44] <Hawkerz> gustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602230/
[15:44] <gustav_> Hawkerz: OMG! I see your password! jk, jk.
[15:45] <Deathlire> they are great for say wardriving thats about it..not sure on actual uhmm say GiMP type stuff
[15:45] <NachoPoncho> EasyDebian runs nicely in chroot, though. And it can use Gimp/OpenOffice, so I bet Ubuntu touch could
[15:45] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Is that clock really true? 33 MHz?
[15:45] <jigal> hi i have running an ubuntu server on vps but have the error network is unreachable when i do ping <IP_ADDRESS> any idea's?
[15:45] <Hawkerz> no idea gustav
[15:45] <NachoPoncho> N900s? They're great for everything!! haha
[15:46] <Deathlire> well who in their right mind would want to use a paint prog on a small screen? :P
[15:46] <zimzum77> wht happening, I'm looking  for a bandwidth eq for my ubuntu and sugg. ??
[15:46] <NachoPoncho> I haven't heard the term "wardriving" in aeons, though. That made me smile.
[15:46] <NachoPoncho> True. I can't make much out of Gimp on even bigger screens.
[15:46] <Deathlire> i still do some WD'ing NachoPoncho ..lol
[15:46] <Hawkerz> gustav_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5602024/ <- that was yours, also shows 33mhz
[15:47] <NachoPoncho> but there are some apps that I like that aren't usually available in standard repos.
[15:47] <Deathlire> ever heard of wget and make? :P
[15:47] <gustav_> Hawkerz: Yep, I know. Aren't these cards PCI Express? Doesn't matter much but I hate false data.
[15:47] <NachoPoncho> Deathlire: lol
[15:48] <levo>  i got an irc server set up on my linux (localhost) - my friend wants to connect to my irc system wih ad-hoc wifi , and windows 7 os, how could it be done?
[15:48] <levo>  i got an irc server set up on my linux (localhost) - my friend wants to connect to my irc system wih ad-hoc wifi , and windows 7 os, how could it be done?
[15:48] <NachoPoncho> Yeah. I just mean: Android may have Angry birds, and apps for Pandora
[15:48] <NachoPoncho> but does it have wireshark, nmap, gnu userland, etc?
[15:48] <Deathlire> levo..read up on UnrealIRCd if your going to use or host one..since your probably using that.
[15:48] <Hawkerz> gustav_, well, the kernel only talks so much to the nvidia card I guess...
[15:48] <NachoPoncho> I guess I just like using familiar apps.
[15:49] <Deathlire> yes shark is there..not much of a screen to output to though
[15:49] <Hawkerz> levo, why doesn't he just connect to your wireless network
[15:49] <Hawkerz> levo, that would be much more straightforward than trying to establish an ad-hoc network just to talk to the person sitting next to you
[15:49] <levo> we want to chat
[15:49] <levo> without internet access
[15:49] <Hawkerz> did you consider having an actual conversation?
[15:50] <Deathlire> lol
[15:50] <levo> Hawkerz: we are not in the same floor
[15:50] <jigal> hi i have running an ubuntu server on vps but have the error network is unreachable when i do ping <IP_ADDRESS> any idea's? How should i configure my network connection?
[15:50] <Deathlire> best thing i've heard in awhile..
[15:50] <levo> we need to be in contact
[15:50] <Deathlire> run a cable levo
[15:50] <Hawkerz> levo, but you are close enough to form an ad-hoc network?
[15:50] <Hawkerz> is your friend a romantic interest?
[15:50] <levo> is it supposed to be a therapy support channel?
[15:51] <Deathlire> hey now i've seen ad-hocs that run over a mile or two..so eh..not sure what ya talkin :P
[15:51] <Hawkerz> no, but if you're doing it for romance I'm way more interested in helping
[15:51] <levo> can't you just answer?
[15:51] <Hawkerz> IRC I am quite proficient at, but ad-hoc networking i have no experience with, so I'd have to read about it to help you
[15:51] <Hawkerz> so you see the math...
[15:52] <levo> what i'm trying to do is making an irc server in a library for answerning readers question without making noise. capipsh?
[15:52] <Hawkerz> not really, since that doesn't demand ad-hoc networking
[15:52] <Deathlire> sounds like you are telling us a lie..but also you can do this but are you using a computer..or a phone..?
[15:52] <levo> so there's no place for wiring.
[15:52] <levo> damn
[15:53] <levo> i'm on my laptop, ubuntu precise
[15:53] <Hawkerz> in fact I'm pretty sure an ad-hoc network would be counterproductive to the goal of fielding a bunch of inquiries
[15:53] <Hawkerz> why did you decide to go with irc anyway?
[15:53] <levo> it allows multiple connections for chatters
[15:53] <Deathlire> sounds like they want a fake network to be wirelessly transmitted to get incoming data and sent back..to me
[15:54] <Deathlire> ad-hoc is only one connection..or am I just presuming to much?
[15:54] <levo> do you have any better idea? me: ubuntu , guy: windows 7. we want to chat in library. distance: 3 to 20 meters.
[15:55] <Deathlire> install skype beta..have other person install skype windows flavor..chat
[15:55] <Deathlire> or yahoo..or whatever
[15:55] <levo> Deathlire: no internet access
[15:55] <Hawkerz> in a library? really?
[15:55] <Deathlire> ahh use lan messenger..then
[15:55] <wtfman> use a lan chat app
[15:55] <levo> Deathlire: where are you from?
[15:56] <Deathlire> wine it on nix..other person can use windows version
[15:56] <Hawkerz> but yeah, IRC is massively overkill for this
[15:56] <Hawkerz> I've been on small IRC servers but never ones consisting of just 2 people
[15:56] <levo> Hawkerz: how?
[15:56] <Deathlire> i'm from SC..that enough for ya?
[15:57] <Hawkerz> levo, all the IRC servers I know of are designed to manage thousands of simultaneous connections, they are very complex pieces of software
[15:57] <levo> Hawkerz: i installed irc-hybrid server.
[15:57] <billkd> how about netcat?