[12:04] <bsd3> h2o: adept is just a frontend to apt-get and aptitide
[12:04] <H2O> where i must type "sudo apt-get update" ?
[12:05] <H2O> ok i'm in the console
[12:05] <H2O> now(because this is the first day with linux and i'm a n00b) what i must do
[12:05] <H2O> thanx for the support guys however :)
[12:05] <icewt> just type there
[12:05] <bsd3> h2o: you need to add some repisitories to /etc/apt/source.list
[12:06] <Milktea> hmm
[12:06] <H2O> i added all the repositories possible
[12:06] <Milktea> i just compiled wine CVS, and my world of warcraft FPS went down
[12:06] <Milktea> I had used a kynaptic package of wine, and FPS was normal
[12:06] <Milktea> what do I do?
[12:07] <Hhhhh> H2O, you're not a n00b. Newbies are people who are new and willing to learn, n00bs are people who are new and clueless but want to pretend they aren't by trying to sound smart.  It was faster when I used a synaptic package of wine. What do I do?
[12:10] <Hhhhh> H2O, yea, but after being turned into an Internet insult, it took on a different meaning
[12:10] <Milktea> H2O, do you remember what bbq means?
[12:10] <FaxeSystem> dunno if I can ask this question :) so I'll give it a try. Where do I get the w32 codecs for breezy?
[12:10] <Hhhhh> or a different connotation instead
[12:11] <icewt> FaxeSystem, http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[12:11] <Hhhhh> FaxeSystem, you can ask any legitimate question, and that is a very legitimate one
[12:11] <chavo> Milktea, reinstall the wine package
[12:11] <FaxeSystem> just thought there is maybe a problem asking this question due to the copyright ;)
[12:12] <Milktea> oh ok
[12:12] <FaxeSystem> thank you icewt
[12:12] <H2O> ice
[12:12] <H2O> what i must type for cheking my adept update
[12:13] <H2O> ok i've opened the konsole
[12:13] <richard_> what is the name of the program for kubuntu that lets you install .deb files just by clicking on it
[12:13] <Milktea> iono
[12:14] <Milktea> but you can install .deb files by dpkg
[12:14] <icewt> H2O, err.. i don't know about adept, but just type in the console, in this order "sudo apt-get clean" , "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:14] <soccerfiend> oh, I have always done dpkg -i name.deb
[12:14] <Milktea> What's the apt-get thing that searches for a file
[12:14] <H2O> ok i make it now... wait a second
[12:14] <Hhhhh> hey, is there a kubuntu FAQ site with answers to most newbie questions?
[12:14] <soccerfiend> apt-cache search <searchname>
[12:14] <Milktea> ubuntuguide.org
[12:14] <Milktea> ah thanks
[12:14] <Hhhhh> Milktea, thx
[12:15] <Milktea> np
[12:15] <Milktea> downloaded synaptic updates
[12:15] <Milktea> now to commit them
[12:16] <Milktea> ugh
[12:16] <Milktea> ><
[12:16] <H2O> nothin....it stops at 44%
[12:16] <icewt> H2O, at which point? after update or after dist-upgrade?
[12:16] <H2O> on the apt-get update command
[12:16] <Milktea> O_o
[12:17] <Milktea> sounds like a problem with repositories
[12:17] <icewt> H2O, well then, i guess there's something wrong with the repositories you have there
[12:17] <H2O> yeah...it looks like i'm not connected
[12:17] <H2O> but i'm sure that my connection works or i can't stay here
[12:17] <Milktea> what repositories are you using?
[12:18] <soccerfiend> paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://pastebin.ca
[12:18] <richard_> ! repositories
[12:18] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:18] <icewt> H2O, what is it downloading when it stops?
[12:18] <H2O> i'm usin' universe and multiverse repositories
[12:18] <richard_> H20:  go here for help
[12:18] <H2O> sudo apt-get update
[12:18] <H2O> Err http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg
[12:18] <H2O>   Impossibile connettersi a security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), tempo limite di connessione esaurito
[12:18] <richard_> ! repositories
[12:18] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:19] <H2O> thanx
[12:19] <richard_> now i need to know what i can use to install .deb packages with one click
[12:19] <richard_> instead of using terminal
[12:19] <Milktea> uh
[12:19] <richard_> yep
[12:20] <richard_> there is a program that does that
[12:20] <richard_> but i forgot where it is
[12:20] <soccerfiend> konqueror does that for me
[12:20] <NeedHelp> O.o'
[12:20] <soccerfiend> right click on package
[12:21] <soccerfiend> then it says kubuntu package manager -> install
[12:21] <soccerfiend> though I have never actually used this
[12:21] <soccerfiend> it is there
[12:21] <richard_> for .deb packages
[12:21] <soccerfiend> right click on a .deb
[12:22] <richard_> nope
[12:22] <richard_> thats not it
[12:23] <richard_> it came off of kde-look or kde-apps.org
[12:23] <itay> Hi! I installed the new kubuntu, and I want to set the keyboard layout, but when I add a language, I can't check "latin"
[12:23] <Milktea> What's wrong with going to terminal? O_o
[12:23] <soccerfiend> some people don't like the terminal
[12:23] <Milktea> oh
[12:23] <soccerfiend> but then I use cygwin for when I have to use windows
[12:24] <Milktea> lol
[12:24] <Milktea> cygwin
[12:24] <soccerfiend> so I don;t really understand that point of view
[12:24] <Milktea> ./config
[12:24] <Milktea> make
[12:24] <Milktea> xDDD
[12:24] <Milktea> that's all i ever used cygwin for
[12:24] <chavo> soccerfiend, it might be in kdeaddons, but I'm not sure
[12:24] <itay> What's the problem with the new version with KDE? why can't I check "latin" in keyboard layout (it's gray)?
[12:24] <soccerfiend> I use it for bash (lots of bash scripts kicking around), du -sm /dir/*
[12:25] <inventas> java*
[12:25] <inventas> can any 1 get me jave software  ??
[12:25] <inventas> can any 1 get me java software  ??
[12:25] <chavo> because latin is 100000000 years old and no one speaks it?
[12:25] <soccerfiend> actually latin letters are what you are using right now
[12:25] <FaxeSystem> damn the w32codecpack seems not to work in my system? Kaffeine crashes when I try to play a wmv...
[12:25] <Milktea> How do i reinstall a package
[12:26] <chavo> soccerfiend, take it easy man
[12:26] <itay> chavo, I don't want to use latin, but when I check "latin" it enables english and I can use 2 languages in 1 layout.
[12:26] <chavo> Milktea, not sure how to do it from commandline
[12:26] <chavo> I'm just being sarcastic itay, sorry
[12:27] <soccerfiend> chavo: I am pretty relaxed, I am just a bit of a smartass :)
[12:27] <inventas> can any 1 get me java software  ??
[12:27] <chavo> yeah, well I'm very sarcastic so we'll get along fine
[12:28] <soccerfiend> Miktea: apt-get remove, apt-get install
[12:28] <chavo> Milktea, synaptic can reinstall, but it might just be removing it and then installing again
[12:28] <icewt> Milktea, if you want to wipe out all the configuration files and make a clean install - "sudo apt-get --purge remove program" , delete ".program" in your home folder , "sudo apt-get install program"
[12:28] <soccerfiend> chavo:sounds good
[12:28] <mike_> okay - I have installed the w32codecs pack and I still can't get mp3 playback to work with amaroK
[12:29] <mike_> have I missed a step?
[12:29] <humbolt> Is there a way to give kubuntu kde back the normal look?  They cut KDE's balls!
[12:29] <soccerfiend> the w32 codecs don't do mp3 do they?
[12:29] <soccerfiend> I use the lame pack
[12:29] <icewt> mike_, you need some gstreamer package for it to work
[12:29] <soccerfiend> I use the xine backend for amarok
[12:29] <FaxeSystem> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s look here mike
[12:29] <humbolt> All the usefull features are hidden in some submenu or can't be found at all!
[12:29] <inventas> can any 1 get me java software  ??
[12:29] <icewt> inventas, what do you mean by "java software"?
[12:29] <soccerfiend> inventas: there are two ways to do it, how new are you to linux
[12:30] <chavo> humbolt, rebuild it from source
[12:30] <FaxeSystem> I also have to use the Xine output in Amarok, cause g-streamer gives me some messed up sound :(
[12:30] <che_benway> nickserv help
[12:30] <soccerfiend> xine + alsa works great
[12:30] <chavo> yeah I use juk, but get no sound with gstreamer
[12:30] <soccerfiend> gstreamer breaks regularly
[12:30] <chavo> but xine or arts works fine
[12:30] <soccerfiend> arts is evil
[12:30] <soccerfiend> use xine
[12:30] <Milktea> hmm
[12:31] <chavo> arts is fine, you believe anything you read on the internet
[12:31] <Milktea> II rensttalled wine
[12:31] <humbolt> chavo: Rebuilding it from the kubuntu sources will lead to an amputated kubuntu kde again, right? I would have to take the original kde sources, would I?
[12:31] <Milktea> but it still has a bad fps
[12:31] <soccerfiend> chavo: it will be replaced eventually
[12:31] <chavo> humbolt, yes or just not apply the patches
[12:31] <inventas> can any 1 get me java software  ??
[12:31] <chavo> that's the only way of doing it.
[12:32] <chavo> soccerfiend, arts will be there in kde 4
[12:32] <soccerfiend> sooner or later it has to go
[12:32] <fatejudger> is the non-free version of Java installed on Kubuntu by default?
[12:32] <fatejudger> if not, is there a package?
[12:33] <icewt> fatejudger, http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[12:33] <soccerfiend> but then I am biased, I use jack to get most audio work done (closet recording geek)
[12:33] <quam> hrm, stupid question. xchat or konversation :P
[12:33] <chavo> humbolt, I build my own kde and it rocks, I update every couple of days from svn. the 3.5 branch
[12:33] <soccerfiend> whatever you like better
[12:33] <mike_> okay - I am STILL getting a problem trying to play MP3 files
[12:33] <Sho_> quam: konversation if you care about KDE integration
[12:33] <chavo> well for what I do, arts has never given me any problems
[12:33] <soccerfiend> mike: apt-cache search lame
[12:33] <humbolt> soccerfiend: arts, has to go? I ask myself, why it is not possible to make alsa multible sound source aware as well as realtime capable?!
[12:33] <quam> sho: what kind of integration do i need for an irc client :P
[12:33] <soccerfiend> humbolt: arts uses alsa
[12:34] <soccerfiend> and it is realtime capable
[12:34] <Sho_> quam: Integration with the desktop-wide online/offline framework for buddies, for example, or using common KDE OSD notifications, ..
[12:34] <Sho_> quam: KDE shortcuts
[12:34] <FaxeSystem> anyone has a clue why kaffeine crashes when playing wmv and vlc runs fine?
[12:34] <humbolt> soccerfiend: yes, but arts is the one that does the multi source stuff, doesn't it?
[12:34] <soccerfiend> nope
[12:34] <soccerfiend> alsa is just a driver
[12:34] <humbolt> nope?
[12:34] <soccerfiend> and is capable of multi input
[12:34] <chavo> quam, links opening in konqueror, and it uses the same toolkit
[12:34] <Sho_> quam: Bottom line, Konversation is a KDE app, Xchat ain't
[12:34] <soccerfiend> I use jack with alsa every day
[12:35] <quam> chave: actually links open with konqueror in xchat even when im in gnome :P
[12:35] <soccerfiend> the old OSS was not able to process multiple streams
[12:35] <soccerfiend> arts is just a front end
[12:35] <humbolt> soccerfiend: so why can't I use arts and skype together?
[12:35] <soccerfiend> its why it is evil
[12:35] <soccerfiend> and the first thing I disable
[12:35] <crimsun> FaxeSystem: are you using kaffeine-xine?
[12:35] <chavo> well yeah you can do that, but I prefer konversation
[12:35] <soccerfiend> (arts)
[12:36] <quam> chavo: saying it does it on its own. i never told it to use konversation instead of firefox
[12:36] <humbolt> soccerfiend: does the multimedia stuff in kde work without arts?
[12:36] <soccerfiend> humbolt: what multimedia stuff?
[12:36] <crimsun> humbolt: skype insists, in somewhat braindead fashion, on using /dev/dsp
[12:36] <FaxeSystem> yes crimsun
[12:36] <chavo> quam, that's odd. you can right click links in xchat for a menu of things to open them with
[12:36] <crimsun> FaxeSystem: then I guess you should just use vlc :-)
[12:36] <chavo> and change the default as well
[12:36] <Sho_> quam: Why don't you try both and see what you like best?
[12:37] <quam> sho: i have, and i can't decide, which is why i asked for your opinions :P
[12:37] <FaxeSystem> good old xine also works without problems...
[12:37] <soccerfiend> humbolt: I use amarok, xine, gmplayer in kde all the time, works fine, arts is toast on my machine
[12:37] <Sho_> quam: Well, I'm biased, I work on Konvi.
[12:37] <quam> heh
[12:37] <humbolt> crimsun: but why can't oss-alsa emulation layer be treated as just another input source for mulit-in alsa?
[12:37] <icewt> quam, i can solve your problem. just user irssi :)
[12:37] <quam> i don't like irssi :P
[12:37] <chavo> when my audigy2 was still working I could get by without arts, but it broke and now I'm using my onboard sound
[12:38] <crimsun> humbolt: you mean using alsa-oss with oss apps?
[12:38] <crimsun> chavo: your audigy2 shouldn't needs arts at all
[12:38] <chavo> thats what I just said
[12:38] <crimsun> so how did it break?
[12:38] <crimsun> hardware problem?
[12:38] <chavo> I'm very clumsy :)
[12:39] <crimsun> yeah, that would do it.
[12:39] <humbolt> crimsun: when I use skype with /dev/dsp (alsa oss-emulation) and arts with alsa, skype has to wait until arts suspends.
[12:39] <chavo> it doesn't even get recognized in linux or windows
[12:40] <crimsun> humbolt: I presume you've tried artsdsp skype?
[12:40] <crimsun> definitely not an optimal solution, but...
[12:40] <humbolt> does it make sense to use gstreamer in kde with amarok, kaffeine, ...?
[12:40] <crimsun> the best way would be for the Skype guys to actually build an ALSA backend for their app(s)
[12:40] <humbolt> crimsun: nop, that kills skype every time
[12:40] <crimsun> humbolt: and aoss skype?
[12:41] <humbolt> nop
[12:43] <humbolt> but again, is it arts that blocks alsa or is it snd_pcm_oss not being able to work while alsa is doing business?
[12:44] <humbolt> what about noatune, does it work without arts? what about the system sounds in kde?
[12:45] <shad0w1e> anyone know why my box is only recognized on the network by ip and not by name?
[12:45] <fatejudger> icewt: do the "win32 codecs" on that same page allow gstreamer to play proprietary codecs?
[12:45] <fatejudger> I've been having so much trouble with gstreamer
[12:45] <fatejudger> it's just awful
[12:47] <icewt> fatejudger, don't know actually. i haven't really used gstreamer-things myself
[12:48] <icewt> fatejudger, there's MPlayer for video and xmms for audio - nothing else is needed. that's my opinion ;)
[12:50] <fatejudger> mplayer doesn't work too well in firefox
[12:50] <libben> nope
[12:50] <libben> not for me either
[12:51] <libben> it dont allways show the video contents
[12:52] <humbolt> multimedia sucks in linux in general!
[12:53] <quam> yeah, i know how you can't live without your porn :P
[12:53] <chavo> humbolt, you can use the system sounds without arts in KDE
[12:54] <humbolt> my skype has constant distortions, video sometime works, sometime it does not. It seems you can't use two different wideo players at the same time, audio always is delayed by some artsd shit or it is not continuous when you do something else ...
[12:54] <libben> i can live with my porn and linux, just use samba and xbmc on xbox =)
[12:54] <chavo> just have to specify an external sound player, they are in mp3 and ogg
[12:54] <quam> libben: haha
[12:54] <fatejudger> libben: heh, XBMC is great
[12:54] <chavo> humbolt, never have those kind of problems here
[12:55] <fatejudger> it's really sad when I have to play a dvd on my xbox because it doesn't work on my linux box though
[12:55] <humbolt> chavo: sell me your machine!
[12:55] <chavo> ok, for one million dollars!!!!!!!!
[12:56] <icewt> fatejudger, have you tried vlc?
[12:56] <humbolt> and every software update introduces new problems, like the hal and gpg stuff.
[12:56] <humbolt> I could not live without ioslaves though!
[12:57] <fatejudger> icewt: vlc?
[12:57] <quam> i don't even know what hal and gpg are :P
[12:57] <chavo> filelight rocks
[12:57] <humbolt> chavo: so what is the fastest external audio player to use with kde (without artsd)?
[12:57] <icewt> fatejudger, i mean for dvd playback. http://videolan.org
[12:57] <apokryphos> chavo: it seriously doesn't get the publicity it deserves
[12:58] <chavo> humbolt, there's a commandline ogg player, but I can't think of the name. ogg123 or something silly
[12:58] <humbolt> chavo: I want something that plays ogg mp3 and wav
[12:58] <chavo> hmmm, not sure
[01:00] <humbolt> chavo: but you say it I use mplayer with -ao alsa and lets say alsaplayer at the same time, alsa can handle those 2 streams?
[01:01] <chavo> humbolt, not sure, I use arts here and it always plays anything I throw at it
[01:01] <humbolt> at the same time?
[01:01] <chavo> yup
[01:02] <humbolt> and how was that, gstreamer does not support proprietary codecs?
[01:02] <chavo> I built all of that myself
[01:02] <humbolt> what is faster: snd-pcm-oss or aoss?
[01:03] <fatejudger> icewt: I already have the libdvd libraries
[01:03] <fatejudger> icewt: including libdvdcss
[01:04] <fatejudger> icewt: version 1.2.9 I think
[01:04] <fatejudger> icewt: the dvds just have terrible performance
[01:04] <fatejudger> icewt: the videos are really jerky and of poor quality
[01:04] <icewt> fatejudger, hm.. strange
[01:04] <humbolt> why can't I change the volume of skype via kde-alsa mixer when using aoss with skype?
[01:04] <fatejudger> icewt: well, the quality is fine, but it's semi-jerky
[01:05] <fatejudger> icewt: I don't use the player itself, just the libraries
[01:05] <fatejudger> icewt: I use Kaffeine to play the actual dvd
[01:05] <icewt> fatejudger, ok
[01:06] <fatejudger> icewt: do you use Mplayer to play the dvds?
[01:06] <icewt> fatejudger, i use vlc because it supports the dvd menus
[01:07] <fatejudger> icewt: the media player?
[01:07] <icewt> fatejudger, yes
[01:09] <humbolt> can I use gstreamer as external sound player for kde system sounds?
[01:09] <icewt> fatejudger, i haven't tried it much in ubuntu though, but in debian it used to work just fine
[01:09] <libben> fatejudger: do u have dma enabled on ur dvd drive?
[01:13] <qatsi> i have a laptop and a desktop running ubuntu, is there a way to have both in a network, i mean, sharing files and stuff ?
[01:13] <fatejudger> icewt: dma?
[01:14] <fatejudger> icewt: wow, this is the shittest looking media player ever
[01:14] <fatejudger> icewt: where are all the KDE people looking to port this to QT?
[01:15] <icewt> fatejudger, i didn't tell you about dma, but you can find some info there https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[01:15] <icewt> fatejudger, and vlc looks just fine :)
[01:16] <qatsi> anyone knows how to set up a linux network ?...for sharing files and stuff ?
[01:17] <chavo> qatsi, I use samba, but I've got windows boxes as well. It's very easy to setup though
[01:18] <icewt> fatejudger, but i'm off to install my brand new kubuntu. until now i've actually been using gnome :)
[01:18] <qatsi> chavo: (del 8) uhmm, with windows its easy, actually its autoconfigured, but how can i configure my linux boxes to be in the network ?
[01:18] <icewt> bye bye gnome
[01:19] <chavo> qatsi, I setup samba a long time ago and have used the same conf file since. I don't remember at all what I did. I remember using webmin though.
[01:20] <shiv> I am a newbie, is there a link which explains in detail how to install tar.gz files?
[01:22] <frank23> shiv: I'm not sure
[01:24] <frank23> shiv: check out
[01:24] <frank23> !shell
[01:24] <ubotu> I guess shell is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:24] <shiv> thanks
[01:24] <frank23> shiv: basically, you run   tar zxvf tar.gz
[01:24] <pospeselr> Anyone here able to help me out with a server installation of 5.10 kubuntu?
[01:24] <frank23> go in the directory, look at the README or INSTALL file
[01:25] <frank23> the basic procedure is   ./configure      then make then make install
[01:25] <Logikal> sudo make install
[01:25] <Logikal> I suggest
[01:25] <frank23> shiv you cannot easily uninstall this way though which is why I use checkinstall instead  of make install
[01:26] <m_tadeu> hi... I'm having some problems with some characters when copying files...special characters like  or  are not interpreted...whats wrong?
[01:26] <libben> how can i see whats going on over my nics?
[01:26] <libben> wanna see how much bandwidth xbmc takes from my internet =)
[01:26] <frank23> libben: what do you mean by "see"
[01:26] <frank23> libben: I don't really know how
[01:26] <libben> well i wanna see how much it is in kb/sec
[01:27] <pospeselr> Anyone here able to help me out with a server installation of 5.10 kubuntu?
[01:28] <libben> ethstats maybe would be something for me
[01:29] <frank23> pospeselr: just ask away, if someone know, they will answer
[01:29] <libben> or knetload
[01:29] <libben> any1 tried knetload?
[01:29] <pospeselr> alright, I'm running from a server installation of 5.10 Kubuntu
[01:30] <frank23> libben: no bu I just might
[01:30] <pospeselr> I've apt-get installed x-window-system-core kdebase kdm kmix nvidia-glx hplip foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters foomatic-db-engine
[01:30] <libben> knetload is if i understand it right a kicker... and places itself in tray
[01:30] <pospeselr> I've added my printer (HP Photosmart 7660) just fine and it works whenever I print a test page and from kate
[01:30] <frank23> libben: did you try it?
[01:31] <libben> not yet. gonna do it later.
[01:31] <libben> right now im writing in the forums
[01:31] <pospeselr> I ultimately want to share it (the printer) using CUPS with my winXP laptop
[01:32] <pospeselr> However, whenever I tried to run the HPLIP Toolbox it claims that my "No installed HP devices found"
[01:33] <pospeselr> the server also refuses to restart using the KDE print manager GUI claiming that  it could not restart the server because it is "Unable to find a running CUPS server"
[01:33] <pospeselr> but I can /etc/init.d/cupsys restart/stop/start with no trouble
[01:34] <frank23> pospeselr: I know nothing about printing. did you check the forums?
[01:34] <pospeselr> of course
[01:35] <pospeselr> I don't really mind if the HPLIP bit doesn't work, but I really want to get this thing to work as a network printer, but it seems that every guide I follow for setting up CUPS does not seem to work
[01:35] <pospeselr> no matter what I do (under version 5.04 anyways) my windows machine can't find the printer
[01:36] <pospeselr> I'm at my wits end, and this is pretty much the only thing keeping me back from a fully functioning system
[01:36] <frank23> pospeselr: did you set it as a samba share ?
[01:36] <Gen> palhaada..
[01:36] <Gen> no entendo porra nenhuma disso aqui..
[01:36] <frank23> !br
[01:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:37] <pospeselr> I have tried setting it as a samba share, I can even get windows to see the printer going through \\hostname/printername, but my laptop claims the server does not have the proper drivers and gives me a huge list of drivers to choose from, but my printer model is not in the list
[01:38] <pospeselr> I should supposedly be able to add the printer as a network printer using cups by adding ipp://hostname:631/printers/printername but my laptop refuses to find my printer this way
[01:38] <frank23> pospeselr: yeah I'm out of my league here
[01:38] <pospeselr> the cups documentation is more than somewhat lacking
[01:38] <frank23> pospeselr: windows probably only can do samba natively
[01:39] <frank23> pospeselr: maybe there is something you can install in windows to make it connect to a cups server
[01:39] <pospeselr> nope, you're supposed to be able to add it using the ipp://blah blah format
[01:39] <apokryphos> can anyone on breezy try a sudo apt-get build-dep amarok? ..no need to download them; just see if it cops out or not immediately
[01:39] <m_tadeu> !pt
[01:39] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:39] <pospeselr> according to a few guides I've found
[01:40] <pospeselr> i can add it with samba, but my printer driver isn't there
[01:40] <pospeselr> i tried adding it with another hp printer driver, and it ended up printing a blank page when I tested it :-p
[01:41] <pospeselr> it should not be so difficult to set up networked printing
[01:49] <shad0w1e> is there any reason why my box isnt advertising it's name on the LAN?
[01:58] <richard_> how do i install realplayer
[01:58] <lwells> I was wondering if anyone could help me with my wireless internet connection
[02:01] <paelscrit> damnit my mobo just went out on my windows box
[02:02] <lwells> I am where you can configure the network interfaces
[02:02] <lwells> But cannot get in to change it, when i click the admin mode and enter my password, still does not let me change it
[02:05] <paelscrit> i had the same problem lwells
[02:05] <paelscrit> i couldnt fix it
[02:05] <lwells> It wont let you into the Admin Mode??
[02:06] <paelscrit> i ended up just re-installing kubuntu
[02:06] <paelscrit> with my internet connection ready to go
[02:06] <SbCl3> ...why does removing that stupid memory-leaking widget converter gtk2-engines-gtk-qt require removing "kubuntu-desktop"?
[02:06] <paelscrit> it works now but i still cant edit it
[02:06] <lwells> that is no good
[02:06] <paelscrit> nope
[02:06] <paelscrit> the admin button wasnt there
[02:06] <paelscrit> like it wouldnt expand all the way or something
[02:06] <paelscrit> it still wont
[02:07] <lwells> i found it, you have to expand the box
[02:07] <paelscrit> mine wouldnt expand
[02:07] <libben> frank23: tried it yet?
[02:07] <paelscrit> it just cuts off
[02:07] <libben> im gonna install it tomorow. gonna get some sleep now.. but let me know if u liked it if u tried it
[02:07] <lwells> I will
[02:08] <frank23> libben: just a sec
[02:10] <paelscrit> can someone tell me how to install a debian package if you download it from the net
[02:11] <apokryphos> paelscrit: sudo dpkg -i somepack.deb
[02:11] <paelscrit> do i have to have the package in a particular folder?
[02:11] <frank23> libben: I have it now but it doesn't separate network trafic by program. just the total trafic
[02:11] <frank23> libben: I don't think its very useful
[02:12] <apokryphos> paelscrit: any will do
[02:12] <paelscrit> thanks
[02:12] <libben> well, not if it just showing total. its not that interessting when u have more nix then one =)
[02:12] <libben> thxs for the heads up on it. will hunt down a good one tomorow
[02:12] <libben> nn
[02:13] <frank23> libben: well you mean divide by interface?
[02:13] <frank23> libben: yeah you choose the network card
[02:15] <libben> ok, and u see the traffic in just total ?
[02:16] <lwells> Anyone know how to get into admin mode
[02:17] <frank23> lwells: what do you mean?
[02:17] <lwells> well on Breezy, it appears to make any changes to system you need ot put on admin pass, well does not work
[02:18] <frank23> lwells: you mean in system settings?
[02:18] <lwells> yep
[02:19] <frank23> lwells: kde has problems with that....  try  kdesu kcontrol
[02:19] <lwells> i did nothing happened when i ran that command
[02:20] <frank23> sudo kcontrol?
[02:22] <lwells> can anyone help me with my wireless connection
[02:23] <Ayiden> Alright im back from earlier... I need to be able to compile a driver into the kernel. I have kubuntu 5.10 breezy. What all do I need extra thats not already included besides the kernel sources?
[02:23] <capiCrimm> how do I create shared object(.so) files?
[02:24] <frank23> Ayiden: a compiler?   install build-essentials for all you compiling needs
[02:24] <frank23> capiCrimm: ? what do you need to do?
[02:24] <Ayiden> the package is called build essencials... in that in the ubuntu pool?
[02:24] <capiCrimm> frank23, i'm trying to build a php extension.
[02:25] <Ayiden> frank23: build-essentials is that in the ubuntu pool?
[02:25] <Ayiden> frank23: and is that the full package name?
[02:25] <frank23> Ayiden: yes but its build-essential sorry
[02:25] <Ayiden> oh and thanks alot Ill go check around for it
[02:25] <Ayiden> oh
[02:26] <Ayiden> its okay thanks
[02:26] <Ayiden> I just hope thats all I need  : )
[02:27] <frank23> ummm   build-essential will probbaly put gcc-4  and you probably need gcc-3.4 though
[02:27] <n0odl3> does anyonne know how to uninstall gnome?
[02:27] <frank23> just thought of this...
[02:27] <Ayiden> frank23: which one should I get? build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb? or build-essential_11.1_i386.deb?
[02:27] <Ayiden> alright
[02:28] <lwells> i sure need help, so confused on why my wireless network is not working, was working on Hoary
[02:28] <Ayiden> frank23: should I just get build-essential_11.1_i386.deb which seems to be the latest?
[02:28] <frank23> Ayiden: only 11 should be available. make sure you take out the hoary sources
[02:28] <Ayiden> okay
[02:28] <n0odl3> anyone know how to get rid of gnome?
[02:29] <frank23> lwells: it was working on hoary? does the interface still should in the interface list in network connections
[02:29] <frank23> n0odl3: do you have a fast connection?
[02:29] <lwells> did work with Hoary yes
[02:29] <Ayiden> what all does build essetials include?
[02:29] <Ayiden> because the file seems awfully small
[02:29] <n0odl3> yeah i do
[02:29] <n0odl3> why?
[02:30] <lwells> I completely reinstalled the OS
[02:30] <n0odl3> why are you asking me this frank?
[02:30] <paelscrit> hmm i wonder why my sound wont work with my onboard sound
[02:30] <Ayiden> frank23: what all does build essetials include? Because the package seems awfully small
[02:30] <n0odl3> hello?
[02:30] <frank23> n0odl3: well my suggestion is to uninstall libgtk1 and libgtk2 and then reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <n0odl3> what about
[02:31] <frank23> Ayiden: it has dependancies for gcc g++ and make
[02:31] <n0odl3> logging into kde then uninstall libgtk1 and libgtk2?
[02:32] <frank23> n0odl3: those are not the exact packages names...  but yeah, all of the gnome apps will be removes as well
[02:32] <n0odl3> including mozilla?
[02:32] <Ayiden> okay
[02:32] <frank23> n0odl3: yes, but you can reinstall it afterwards
[02:32] <n0odl3> but will my method of uninstalling work?
[02:32] <frank23> n0odl3: thats why I asked about fast connecgtion
[02:33] <n0odl3> i understand
[02:33] <n0odl3> but will my method of uninstalling work?
[02:33] <Ayiden> frank23: I have the kernel sources and when I installed them and tryed to add somthing to the kernel I got an autoconf file missing error
[02:33] <frank23> n0odl3: what method?
[02:33] <Ayiden> weird
[02:33] <n0odl3> logging into kde then uninstalling those files
[02:33] <n0odl3> well not those exactly
[02:33] <n0odl3> those files
[02:34] <frank23> Ayiden: I don't know anything about that
[02:34] <frank23> n0odl3: its  libgtk2.0-0 actually.   all the gnome packages depend on it
[02:35] <n0odl3> ok
[02:35] <n0odl3> well
[02:35] <n0odl3> if i log onto kde then uninstall libgtk2.0-0 then will that work?
[02:36] <apokryphos> that will remove all gnome, yes
[02:36] <frank23> n0odl3: yes but you need to reinstall kubuntu-desktop afterwards
[02:36] <n0odl3> really?
[02:36] <n0odl3> why?
[02:36] <frank23> n0odl3: which will make you redownload a bunch of packages
[02:36] <n0odl3> i see
[02:37] <n0odl3> is it bad if i just keep gnome?
[02:37] <frank23> n0odl3: because gstreamer and a buch of other things are in kubuntu
[02:37] <n0odl3> i already have gstreamer
[02:37] <n0odl3> and stuff liek that
[02:37] <n0odl3> but is it bad just to keep gnome?
[02:37] <apokryphos> n0odl3: best way is to use debfoster
[02:37] <apokryphos> it's not bad, no
[02:37] <frank23> n0odl3: yes but uninstalling libgtk2 will also uninstall gstreamer
[02:37] <apokryphos> but if you do want to remove it...
[02:38] <n0odl3> do you know how much space it takes up exactly?
[02:38] <n0odl3> (gnome)
[02:39] <frank23> I don't know......  150-200 MBs maybe??
[02:39] <frank23> n0odl3: just a guess
[02:42] <lwells> is not there something about setting up a lo connection for wireless??
[02:43] <sudonim> How can you get Ark to unrar things?
[02:43] <lwells> It just keeps saying that i have a "Disabled Wireless Network Device" on the network settings.  Any ideas?
[02:44] <frank23> lwells: what happens when you try to enable it?
[02:44] <frank23> lwells: did you try sudo kcontrol?
[02:44] <lwells> Does nothing.  Yes I did sudo kcontrol.
[02:45] <frank23> lwells: ok, I know another way.  blame kde for that problem
[02:45] <capiCrimm> If I want to change some configure options to a compiled program. Is there a way I can just change some of the options, or do I have to rebuild it all over again?
[02:45] <lwells> sure, love to blame kde
[02:45] <lwells> lol
[02:45] <frank23> lwells: no really, this bug has been in kde for a long time
[02:46] <lwells> ohok, what is the other way
[02:46] <frank23> lwells: the way I setup wireless:  install  gnome-system-tools , run  sudo network-config.   enter configuration info, works!
[02:47] <lwells> k
[02:47] <frank23> lwells: but you need a network connection to install gnome-system-tools
[02:48] <frank23> (I think)
[02:48] <lwells> funny
[02:48] <lwells> like a big jokehuh
[02:49] <lwells> I need a network connection, to be able to get a network connection
[02:49] <frank23> lwells: now I remember... I actually installed ubuntu before kubuntu. thats why I had it
[02:49] <frank23> lwells: you could also install it from a ubuntu (not kubuntu) install cd
[02:49] <lwells> that is what i did with hoary
[02:50] <lwells> installed ubuntu first
[02:50] <frank23> lwells: why did you not just upgrade intead of doing a fresh install?
[02:50] <lwells> got all screwed up, lost connection
[02:50] <lwells> had to do a fresh install
[02:51] <frank23> oh
[02:51] <lwells> going back to hoary i think
[02:52] <lwells> Wish someone would of told me to install ubuntu first
[02:53] <frank23> lwells: you can also setup wireless manually by editing config file however I don't know how to do it
[02:54] <lwells> going to start over
[02:54] <lwells> think i will upgrade from ubuntu first
[03:08] <quam> anyone familiar with using dual monitors in kubuntu?
[03:16] <raphink> hello
[03:16] <raphink> I'm using kubuntu and I've got a network problem
[03:16] <raphink> well say ...
[03:16] <raphink> I configure my interfaces with xnetcardconfig
[03:16] <raphink> it works well
[03:16] <raphink> until I reboot ...
[03:16] <raphink> and all my config is lost
[03:16] <raphink> :(
[03:16] <raphink> any idea?
[03:19] <dan_> Can I get some help with installing synaptic touchpad driver?  On "make" I get this error: synaptics.c:59:23: error: sys/ioctl.h: No such file or directory
[03:23] <arafat> dan_:  why don't you just "apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics" ?
[03:25] <dan_> I'm on the latest version.  Can't tell if it is v0.14.3 or v0.13.x from the label in Adept.
[03:25] <dan_> Needless to say, I'm having trouble editing xorg.conf to disable tap-to-click.
[03:27] <arafat> dan_: try installing "dietlibc-dev"... then you might be able to compile the driver
[03:28] <dan_> arafat: Will do.  Thanks.
[03:43] <wotnarg> hrm... is there any way to get  CLI players and other simple programs to play nice with arts? Symlink of /dev/dsp to somewhere? :p
[03:48] <douglas> Has anyone ever seen a qt interface for gaim?
[03:58] <_john> i need help
[03:58] <_john> i am new to linux and IRC
[04:02] <_john> help
[04:02] <_john> \help
[04:02] <_john> #hrlp
[04:02] <_john> #help
[04:02] <_john> #i need help
[04:09] <richard_> i need to configure my dvd drive
[04:09] <richard_> how would i do that
[04:09] <richard_> i know that i go into terminal as root, and type something
[04:09] <richard_> but what do i type
[04:10] <richard_> this is froggy25
[04:10] <richard_> and i need help
[04:10] <richard_> plz
[04:10] <quam> try #ubuntu
[04:10] <quam> everyone seems to be dead here
[04:11] <quam> or not :P
[04:19] <poimen> were I can get win32 codecs for xine?
[04:20] <Ayiden> okay i am getting pretty agrevated... I midess well be using RPM"s
[04:21] <orugo> hi!
[04:22] <orugo> hey i have a problem with kmldonkey
[04:23] <frank23> !w32codecs
[04:23] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:23] <orugo> !mldonkey
[04:23] <ubotu> orugo: Are you on ritalin?
[04:24] <frank23> orugo: that is for ed2k network?
[04:24] <orugo> right
[04:24] <frank23> try aMule
[04:24] <orugo> yes but
[04:24] <orugo> mldonkey combines eDonkey and KaZaa (fasttrack)
[04:24] <orugo> and i use kazaa a lot
[04:24] <orugo> i love it
[04:24] <frank23> orugo: I use appolon for kazaa
[04:25] <orugo> well
[04:25] <orugo> i'll try them
[04:25] <orugo> tks!
[04:25] <orugo> i use aMsn
[04:25] <orugo> is there something better?
[04:25] <frank23> orugo: for appolon you need to find the fasttrack plugin though
[04:26] <frank23> maybe I'll try kmldonkey
[04:26] <orugo> aha
[04:26] <orugo> it works ok but
[04:26] <orugo> not working now in my new kubuntu 5.10
[04:26] <orugo>  :(
[04:27] <orugo> hey
[04:27] <orugo> where can i found appolon
[04:27] <orugo> i mean there's not in the kubuntu soft
[04:27] <orugo> in the package manager
[04:27] <orugo> (i have all the repos)
[04:28] <frank23> apollon
[04:28] <frank23> sry
[04:28] <moshe> hello
[04:29] <orugo> ahh
[04:29] <orugo> :P
[04:29] <orugo> ok
[04:29] <moshe> why is kde not fitting my screen since the upgrade to breezy?
[04:29] <frank23> I will try kmldonkey right now
[04:29] <orugo> you need mldonkey
[04:29] <orugo> kmldonkey is a gui for mlonkey
[04:29] <frank23> mldonkey-server?
[04:29] <orugo> right
[04:29] <orugo> "mlnet"
[04:29] <orugo> kmldonkey will ask you to found mlnet file in the mldonkey main folder
[04:30] <orugo> i think its in /usr/bin/mlnet or something
[04:30] <orugo> any way: whereis mldonkey in the shell
[04:30] <frank23> orugo: ok
[04:34] <orugo> hey
[04:34] <orugo> i cant find appollo in the packagemanager :(
[04:35] <frank23> its apollon
[04:35] <orugo> ahh
[04:35] <orugo> with one p
[04:35] <orugo> ahahahahaha
[04:35] <orugo> :(
[04:36] <orugo> hey
[04:36] <orugo> tell me a good game
[04:36] <orugo> for a 32mb video card:P
[04:36] <frank23> warcraft 3?
[04:36] <orugo> for linux?
[04:37] <frank23> you can play warcraft 3 for windows with wine or cedega
[04:37] <frank23> what was your problem with kmldonkey?
[04:37] <orugo> it cant connect to servers
[04:37] <orugo> i mean
[04:38] <orugo> it HAVENT server list
[04:38] <orugo> :(
[04:38] <frank23> me neither...
[04:38] <orugo> nayway
[04:38] <orugo> i deleted it
[04:38] <orugo> :P
[04:40] <frank23> well fasttrack work in kmldonkey
[04:41] <Ayide1> I cant get online to use adept because I need drivers to get online. I have the drivers... but I need to compile them into my running kernel.. what do I do is there a list some where of every possible package I need to do that or perhaps some big package that includes everything and the kitchen sink.. im pretty desperate here. I midess well be using RPM"s because im running into a dependancy night mare here folks.
[04:42] <milksteak> eww
[04:42] <milksteak> fasttrack
[04:42] <Ayide1>  I cant get online to use adept because I need drivers to get online. I have the drivers... but I need to compile them into my running kernel.. what do I do is there a list some where of every possible package I need to do that or perhaps some big package that includes everything and the kitchen sink.. im pretty desperate here. I midess well be using RPM"s because im running into a dependancy night mare here folks.
[04:43] <frank23> Ayide1: what driver?
[04:43] <Ayide1> can somebody help me?
[04:43] <Ayide1> its just an hsf modem driver but I need the stuff to be able to compile it
[04:43] <orugo> i have no idea :(
[04:43] <Ayide1> kubuntu doesnt include the stuff most people should have pre-installed
[04:44] <Ayide1> like gcc... make... make dev
[04:44] <Ayide1> etc...
[04:44] <Ayide1> I can see not including the kernel sources but jeesh
[04:44] <frank23> Ayide1: they stuff it into one cd thuogh....
[04:44] <Ayide1> I know but so does mepis
[04:44] <Ayide1> oh well
[04:45] <Ayide1> I just wish I had a broadband connection thats all
[04:45] <Ayide1> *(lol) it would be so easy to just adept it all
[04:45] <Ayide1> does anyone know of a big package that includes everything and the kitch sink that may be able to help?
[04:45] <Ayide1> kitchen**
[04:45] <frank23> Ayide1: is it possible for me to do it for you?
[04:46] <Ayide1> and send me the packages?
[04:46] <frank23> no just the driver
[04:46] <jsubl2> Ayide1, yeah but it is nice that you only have to dl 1 cd
[04:46] <Ayide1> yeah
[04:46] <Ayide1> I have the driver
[04:46] <crimsun> Ayide1: what sort of kitchen sink?
[04:46] <Ayide1> ha ha
[04:46] <Ayide1> I just need to be able to install it
[04:47] <Ayide1> without the stuff needed to compile thgings into a running kernel anyone that isnt compatable right off is in trouble
[04:47] <Ayide1> what do you guys normally do on a fresh installl?
[04:48] <frank23> Ayide1: well linux-restricted-modules takes care of alot of stuff
[04:50] <Ayide1> all I want is to get my modem working and the nvidia drivers
[04:50] <Ayide1> the hsf drivers have a package but its for hoary : (
[04:51] <Ayide1> thanks for trying to help *(lol)
[04:52] <crimsun> if you have Internet access, install fakeroot, linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, and gcc-3.4
[04:52] <Ayide1> dependencies can be a real pain
[04:53] <crimsun> do you not have a live Internet connection on that box?
[04:53] <Ayide1> no
[04:53] <crimsun> does the box have a network card?
[04:53] <Ayide1> only 56k.. which i need the modem to get to : (
[04:53] <Ayide1> I wish I could just sudo apt-get update
[04:53] <Ayide1> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:53] <Ayide1> sudo apt-get install kernel-package
[04:53] <Ayide1> sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:53] <Ayide1> sudo apt-get install libncurses5
[04:53] <Ayide1> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[04:53] <Ayide1> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[04:54] <Ayide1> thats why deb packaging was invented
[04:54] <crimsun> you do realize that you can just boot into the Hoary kernel, right?
[04:54] <Ayide1> instead Im doing it manually and finding out that those few packages need a lot more ha ha ha
[04:54] <jsubl2> or you can do something like apt-get build-dep kaffeine-xine  that will suck down a lot of stuff
[04:55] <crimsun> the Hoary kernel isn't removed when you dist-upgrade
[04:55] <crimsun> just choose the 2.6.10-5-foo kernel when you boot
[04:55] <Ayide1> can I boot in install the hsf driver then download those packages and then install them in breezy and then install the hsf driver O.O
[04:56] <Ayide1> whoo hoo OMG this might just work *(lol)
[04:56] <Ayide1> thanks
[04:56] <Ayide1> let me make sure these drivers ill work
[04:56] <Ayide1> THANK YOU!!!
[04:56] <orugo> hey
[04:56] <orugo> how can i open a port
[04:56] <orugo> for output and input?
[04:56] <crimsun> what type of port?
[04:57] <crimsun> neither Ubuntu nor Kubuntu install a firewall by default.
[04:57] <orugo> internet port
[04:57] <orugo> yes but
[04:57] <orugo> i opened amule
[04:57] <orugo> and it says that blablala = LOWID
[04:57] <orugo> i need to OPEN a port
[04:57] <crimsun> that's an issue for your router/cable modem
[04:57] <orugo> nor remembers me TURBO PASCAL
[04:57] <orugo> haha (im HISPANOHABLANTE)
[04:58] <Ayide1> so these should work hsfmodem_<IP_ADDRESS>full_k2.6.10_5_686_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip
[04:58] <Ayide1> thanks ill be right back
[04:58] <Ayide1> I can boot into that from grub right?
[04:58] <frank23> orugo: do you have a router?
[04:58] <crimsun> no, you can't boot into hsfmodem_<IP_ADDRESS>full_k2.6.10_5_686_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip from GRUB
[04:58] <crimsun> you have to boot into 2.6.10-5-686
[04:58] <Ayide1> no i didnt mean that lol
[04:58] <Ayide1> ha ha ha
[04:59] <`Nomad411> !ftp
[04:59] <ubotu> `Nomad411: What?
[04:59] <Ayide1> alright brb and thanks ^.^
[04:59] <orugo> no
[04:59] <orugo> i have a bad connection
[04:59] <`Nomad411> Is there a default FTP server with 5.10?
[04:59] <orugo> local net
[04:59] <`Nomad411> proftpd?
[04:59] <orugo> shared internet
[05:00] <frank23> orugo: what do you mean shared internet?
[05:00] <orugo> internet comes to a PC
[05:00] <orugo> and it shares the connection
[05:00] <orugo> with another 2 pcs
[05:00] <orugo> :P
[05:00] <orugo> it really sucks
[05:00] <orugo> hahaha
[05:00] <orugo> without router
[05:00] <orugo> the cheaper way!!!
[05:01] <frank23> orugo: well the first PC acts as a router there
[05:01] <orugo> some ethernet's and cable
[05:01] <orugo> yeah
[05:01] <orugo> but i always worked with donkey here
[05:01] <orugo> i mean nothing in the first pc changed
[05:01] <orugo> (they dont know how to change something)
[05:01] <`Nomad411> !proftpd
[05:02] <ubotu> `Nomad411: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:03] <frank23> orugo: do you run donkey on that first pc?
[05:03] <orugo> no
[05:03] <orugo> i ran it here
[05:03] <frank23> I don't really know...
[05:03] <orugo> :(
[05:04] <frank23> what if you change the port you connect with?
[05:04] <orugo> yes
[05:04] <orugo> ill try that
[05:04] <frank23> orugo: and did you change from kmldonkey to aMule?
[05:05] <orugo> when i install kubuntu 510
[05:05] <orugo> i installed kmldonkey
[05:05] <orugo> ant it doesnt worked
[05:05] <orugo> now im trying with amule
[05:05] <orugo> in 5.04 kmldonkey worked ok
[05:05] <Ayiden> crap... the 5.04 kernel 2.6.10 isnt an option  : (
[05:05] <Ayiden> i have kubuntu 5.10 breezy
[05:06] <Ayiden> is the kernel still there is there another way to boot to it?
[05:07] <Ayiden> crimsun: it isnt an option in grub
[05:07] <Ayiden> now what *(lol)
[05:08] <crimsun> Ayiden: I presume you dist-upgraded from Hoary?
[05:09] <Ayiden> I keep getting DC ....
[05:10] <Ayiden> okay well I cant boot into the 2.6.10 kernel it isnt an option in grub
[05:10] <Ayiden> I have kubuntu 5.10
[05:11] <crimsun> Ayiden: did you dist-upgrade from Hoary?
[05:11] <Ayiden> crimsun: is there another way to boot into the kernel or is the 2.6.10 kernel not included in breezy?
[05:11] <Ayiden> no
[05:11] <Ayiden> Its a fresh install
[05:12] <Ayiden> : (
[05:12] <Ayiden> this sux eh
[05:12] <frank23> Ayiden: the 2.6.10 kernel is in the hoary repos
[05:12] <Ayiden> yeah and to use that I would need the stuff im trying to get working now anyway *(lol)
[05:12] <frank23> right ;-)
[05:13] <Ayiden> ha ha ha
[05:13] <Ayiden> yeah well this should be fun...
[05:13] <crimsun> Ayiden: I presumed you had dist-upgraded from Hoary.
[05:13] <crimsun> Ayiden: well, time to sneakernet the debs
[05:13] <crimsun> get out a blank CD and start downloading the dependencies.
[05:13] <crimsun> you'll want a CDRW
[05:13] <Ayiden> there has to be an easier way other than looking at the dependencies for each and every file until ive downloaed everything there is
[05:13] <crimsun> nope, that's what you'll be doing.
[05:14] <Ayiden> crimsun: its okay.. now i wish i had *(lol)
[05:14] <crimsun> packages.ubuntu.com/package will list the dependencies
[05:15] <Ayiden> I feel like im walking down a trail waiting to get my head chopped off whilst listening to that death song.. dun dun dun da da da da da da DUN!!!
[05:16] <Ayiden> hey thank you ALOT for that link though it will be a BIG help
[05:24] <orugo> hey
[05:24] <orugo> can i change the KONQUEROR?
[05:24] <orugo> i mean i want a different file manager
[05:27] <Ravensky> is there a good audio converter program out there for Linux?
[05:33] <`Nomad411> Could someone tell me if you get a prompt at ftp://lutes.ath.cx
[05:37] <Jeevan> can mplayer play Quicktime7 files yet?
[05:51] <richard_> im trying to install kompose
[05:51] <richard_> i need to know what all should i do
[05:52] <richard_> to get it up and running
[05:52] <lwells> how do i get the kde desktop when i have ubuntu
[05:52] <richard_> do you have all the kde files installed
[05:52] <frank23> lwells: install kubuntu-desktop
[05:52] <richard_> frank23, help me out plz
[05:53] <lwells> do i do that through terminal?
[05:53] <frank23> lwells: you can use adept
[05:53] <richard_> no, synaptic
[05:53] <kdude> jrjx: Hey J.. you there?
[05:53] <richard_> how do i configure kompose right
[05:54] <richard_> i install imlib2
[05:54] <richard_> but it says that it cant find it in the shared libraries
[05:54] <richard_> so what should i do
[05:54] <frank23> richard_: did you install kompose?
[05:55] <richard_> yes
[05:55] <richard_> i installed kompose
[05:55] <frank23> what is imlib2?
[05:55] <richard_> its for imaging
[05:55] <richard_> this is what i installed,  imlib2_1.0.6-2_i386.deb
[05:56] <richard_> it was needed by kompose
[05:56] <frank23> richard_: where did you find that?
[05:56] <richard_> find what
[05:56] <frank23> imlimlib2_1.0.6-2_i386.deb
[05:56] <richard_> at rpmfind
[05:56] <frank23> first mistake
[05:56] <richard_> ok
[05:56] <frank23> ;-)
[05:57] <frank23> get rid of it
[05:57] <richard_> ok
[05:57] <richard_> how do i do that
[05:57] <frank23> sudo apt-get remove imlib2
[05:57] <frank23> I think...
[05:58] <richard_> ok
[05:58] <richard_> its gone
[05:58] <richard_> now what
[05:58] <richard_> ! imlib2
[05:58] <ubotu> richard_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:58] <richard_> dang
[05:58] <frank23> well I think what you need is libimlib2   but it should be installed already I think
[05:58] <frank23> !info libimlib2
[05:58] <ubotu> libimlib2: (powerful image loading and rendering library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-2.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 188 kB, Installed size: 548 kB
[05:59] <richard_> what if its not up to date
[05:59] <richard_> what do i do then
[06:00] <richard_> i looked it up on synaptic, its not there
[06:00] <frank23> did you install kompose with synaptic?
[06:00] <richard_> no
[06:00] <richard_> its not there either
[06:00] <frank23> second mistake ;-)
[06:00] <frank23> you have to enable universe
[06:00] <frank23> !sources
[06:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:00] <richard_> i did
[06:00] <richard_> that
[06:01] <richard_> universe and multiverse
[06:01] <frank23> then you can install kompose and it will install everything else automatically
[06:01] <frank23> do you run the x86 version of ubuntu?
[06:01] <richard_> yeah
[06:01] <richard_> i386
[06:02] <frank23> then it should work: I just installed it myself
[06:02] <frank23> hit reload in synaptic
[06:02] <richard_> i got it
[06:02] <frank23> then do a search for kompose
[06:02] <richard_> kompose is installed
[06:02] <richard_> i just removed it
[06:02] <richard_> and used apt-get
[06:03] <richard_> it works now
[06:03] <frank23> you used apt-get to install kompose?
[06:03] <richard_> yeah
[06:03] <frank23> great
[06:03] <richard_> libimlib2, libungif4g, and kompose installed
[06:04] <frank23> install everything with synaptic using ubuntu repositories. If you can't find packages for ubuntu, your best bet is to install from source
[06:04] <frank23> don't install random .deb files
[06:04] <richard_> ok
[06:04] <richard_> what about apt-get
[06:04] <frank23> apt-get and synaptic do the same thing
[06:04] <richard_> ok
[06:04] <richard_> thanks
[06:19] <poimen> there is a media player for linux that runs ogm fileS?
[06:19] <regeya> poimen: mplayer, xine should both do it
[06:20] <poimen> ok
[06:21] <regeya> poimen: and by extension, kaffeine (being libxine-dependent) should do it
[06:21] <frank23> regeya: install kaffeine-xine and change the engine in kaffeine
[06:21] <regeya> erm, thanks, frank, I guess
[06:23] <moshe> hello
[06:24] <Hobbsee> hello
[06:24] <moshe> I have run into a strange problem.
[06:24] <regeya> frank23: is that a package in the breezy repos?  I'm not upgrading until the major bugs are ironed out (y'know, kubuntu being treated like the step-brother issue) and to tell you the truth I didn't ask a question about kaffeine, but thanks for answering anyway
[06:24] <moshe> I cannot log into kde, gnome, or xfce, but I can log in to blackbox
[06:25] <moshe> I just upgraded to breezy two nights ago
[06:25] <Hobbsee> do you get any errors?
[06:25] <frank23> regeya: oh your in hoary... well the kaffeine in hoary is based on xine. doesn't it work?
[06:26] <regeya> frank23: what part of 'I didn't ask a question about kaffeine' is difficult?
[06:26] <frank23> regeya: lol\
[06:26] <moshe> Hobbsee, well, I enter my password for any of those sessions, and then X reboots
[06:26] <frank23> regeya: it must be getting it late!
[06:26] <frank23> regeya: you wrote the answer, not the question ;-)
[06:27] <poimen> thankx regeya and frank23 I am downloading a ogm torrent too se if the video works and if it lest me change audio files :)
[06:28] <Hobbsee> moshe: you might want to try in #ubuntu, unless anyone here knows - there's more people ther
[06:28] <Hobbsee> *there
[06:28] <moshe> ok
[06:34] <pipegeek> Hi all.  I just dist-upgraded from hoary to breezy...and kvim isn't there any more!  I checked http://packages.ubuntu.org/kvim, and that confirms it.  What happened to kvim in breezy?  Why isn't it there?  I like kvim!  I use kvim! :^(
[06:36] <regeya> hey wow
[06:36] <regeya> someone uses (and likes) kvim!
[06:36] <Hobbsee> pipegeek: good question...it's not in universe or multiverse or any of them either
[06:42] <pipegeek> :^)
[06:42] <pipegeek> How odd
[06:43] <pipegeek> Do you know to whom I could mention such a thing?  I have no experience whatsoever building debian packages, but I could give it a whirl...
[06:44] <Hobbsee> pipegeek: Riddell generally does the kde packaging
[06:44] <pipegeek> Hobbsee: OK.  How should I contact him?  I'd hate to seem rude.
[06:44] <pipegeek> Hobbsee: Thanks, btw
[06:45] <Hobbsee> he's here, but idle
[06:48] <pipegeek> Ah.  Also, one other thing--items in remote:/, when selected from the "Network Folders" panel menu, now open twice when clicked.  Not a big deal, but rather annoying.  Have you heard of this before?
[06:48] <Hobbsee> pipegeek: which kde?
[06:49] <pipegeek> 3.4.3
[06:49] <pipegeek> Hobbsee: again, from breezy
[06:49] <Hobbsee> could be a bug in 3.4.3
[06:49] <Hobbsee> i'm using kde 3.5 beta, and it works fine here
[06:49] <pipegeek> ah
[06:49] <Hobbsee> ie opening once while clicked
[06:50] <pipegeek> I'm president of the LUG here, and I'm fiddling with ubuntu because I'd like to come up with a standard desktop-oriented distribution to use during installfests.  As such, I'd rather not rely on unstable...er...sid...er...what's it called in ubuntu-land?
[06:51] <Hobbsee> a beta?
[06:51] <pipegeek> :^)
[06:51] <pipegeek> Anyway, I must go
[06:51] <Hobbsee> ok
[06:51] <pipegeek> Thanks all
[06:51] <Hobbsee> 3.5 beta's very stable
[06:52] <Hobbsee> hi Kamping_Kaiser!
[06:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee :)
[06:52] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: done my exam, i can sit here and not study now lol...till wed night for a thurs exam :P
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[06:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> yo uhad an exam today?
[06:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> freeking runescap disconnected me :( i was on a roll as well
[06:54] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, a few hours ago...
[06:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: no, after a few minutes ;)
[06:55] <chromate> hi all, anybody know how i use laptop mediakeys in kde?
[06:56] <Hobbsee> check that they're assigned to anything in kcontrol
[06:57] <Hobbsee> apart from that, not a clue sorry
[06:57] <chromate> i tried creating shortcuts for them but it seems the KDE control center doesn't allow you to use those special keys
[06:57] <Hobbsee> hoary or breezy?
[06:58] <chromate> hoary
[06:59] <regeya> chromate: first, go under Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout and make sure you've got the correct kbd layout...for me, it was just about that simple
[07:00] <chromate> regeya: yup, dvorak
[07:01] <regeya> and then...erm, I dont remember.  damn kcontrol
[07:01] <regeya> not just the layout; the model of keyboard, if it's in the list
[07:03] <regeya> see, one of the bad things is that I set those keys, this last time, through amaroK. :(
[07:03] <regeya> if the model of kbd is directly supported, in theory it should be as simple as selecting the proper model and layout.
[07:03] <regeya> ifnot...*shrug*
[07:04] <Hobbsee> check on ubuntuforums.org if that doesnt work, and you get really stuck
[07:05] <felly> in case anyone is wondering, having a gtk theme of smooth-<blah> caused several gtk-based apps to crash
[07:05] <felly> including evolution and eclipse and acrobat reader
[07:06] <felly> took me a while to figure it out!
[07:06] <felly> does anyone know how to set webcollage as the screensaver in kde?
[07:07] <Hobbsee> what's webcollage?
[07:07] <Hobbsee> ie, is it one that's appearing in xscreensaver, but not kscreensaver?
[07:07] <felly> its a screensaver that displays random pics from the web
[07:07] <Hobbsee> in the repositories?
[07:07] <felly> Hobbsee: yes i believe so, however i thought it did exist in kscreensaver in hoary
[07:08] <Hobbsee> felly: you've presumably got it now with all it's dependancies?
[07:09] <felly> Hobbsee: it's included in xscreensaver, but it seems to have been removed from the x screensaver hooks package for kde
[07:11] <todd_> once i go into x, my virtual terms are gone
[07:11] <todd_> i cant get to them
[07:11] <todd_> is this the default or something
[07:11] <Hobbsee> felly: you cant install the xscreensaver-kscreensaver package?
[07:12] <Hobbsee> todd_: using ctrl +alt +f1 to get to terminal, i presume?
[07:12] <todd_> Hobbsee, yes
[07:12] <Hobbsee> todd_: that's definetly not normal, but I think someone else mentioned it a couple of days ago
[07:14] <todd_> Hobbsee, prob me :)
[07:14] <Hobbsee> ah right...could have been, i dont remember
[07:15] <mururoa> Hi there. Where can I find informations about wich kernel choosing for AMD64 ? ( out of a list of 9 )
[07:31] <richard> i want to configure my creative webcam for kde
[07:31] <richard> how do i do this
[07:36] <mmahmood> can someone help me  install codec for kaffeine
[07:37] <crutch> hello
[07:37] <mmahmood> hi
[07:37] <crutch> i'm a linux noob wish i could help u
[07:38] <mmahmood> no worries bro
[07:38] <Hobbsee> you want to install kaffine-xine?
[07:38] <Hobbsee> which codecs did you want?
[07:38] <crutch> i'm trying get my wusb11 to work
[07:38] <mmahmood> i'm running breazy ..fresh install..and can't run mpeg file
[07:38] <mmahmood> not sure what i need to do
[07:38] <crimsun> installed akode-mpeg?
[07:39] <mmahmood> can u help me how to do it ?
[07:39] <kwtm2> Same here --how to play mpegs?
[07:39] <crimsun> you might find kaffeine-xine more helpful
[07:39] <mmahmood> if u could help i can try :) please :)
[07:40] <crutch> i think i have my wusb11 configured as it shows networks when i scan but i still have no net acces
[07:40] <crimsun> I'm not familiar with the new KDE tools, but in a Konsole, you can type: sudo aptitude install kaffeine-xine
[07:40] <crimsun> you'll need to enable the universe repository first
[07:40] <crimsun> !repos
[07:40] <ubotu> from memory, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:40] <mmahmood> ok it's done
[07:41] <mmahmood> now what do i do ?
[07:41] <kwtm2> Hmm... I'll have to look into that.  Is there a repository where we can get mplayer, which isn't part of the official supported packages?
[07:41] <crimsun> mplayer is in multiverse
[07:41] <crimsun> mmahmood: start Kaffeine
[07:41] <crutch> when i go to enable wlan0 interface it activates for maybe 3 seconds then deactivates
[07:41] <crutch> any ideas?
[07:42] <crutch> oh breezy 5.10 KDE
[07:42] <crimsun> perhaps your wireless access point requires WEP, WPA, or WPA2?
[07:42] <mmahmood> crimsun>> hmmm..kaffeine has changed but...there are no decoders to play this stream
[07:43] <crimsun> mmahmood: are you trying to play music or video+music?
[07:43] <crutch> there's no encryption
[07:43] <Hobbsee> mmahmood: why dont you use noatun or kaboodle?  they seem to be installed by default
[07:43] <crutch> open AP
[07:43] <Hobbsee> crimsun: an mpeg file
[07:43] <mmahmood> music video
[07:43] <kwtm2> Sorry, crimsun, just installed Breezy 2h ago after 2 yrs with Mandrake Linux.  What does "mplayer is in multiverse" mean?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[07:43] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[07:43] <kwtm2> Where are the deb source files --how do I tell it to go to "multiverse", etc.?
[07:43] <crimsun> Hobbsee: (mp3s are mpeg-1 layer 3, so we have to be a bit more precise ;-)
 music vidoe
[07:43] <Hobbsee> ah ok
 how do i run those ..i don't see them in kde ?
[07:44] <Hobbsee> they're on your kmenu
[07:44] <kwtm2> ubotu seems to be an answerbot.  How do we trigger it --just say the word !repositories ?
[07:44] <ubotu> kwtm2: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:44] <Hobbsee> noatun is there, and kaboodle is under more applications
[07:45] <Hobbsee> yeah
[07:45] <crimsun> !tell kwtm2 about repos
[07:45] <Hobbsee> !repositories
[07:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:45] <crutch> forgive my ignorance but is ifupdown have have anything to do with my wifi connection
[07:45] <crimsun> crutch: ifupdown is a simplified script for ifconfig $iface up [...]
 nope don't see it
[07:46] <Hobbsee> what multimedia apps do you have there then?
[07:46] <crutch> could that script be turning wlan0 off as soon as i turn it on
[07:47] <crutch> it only activates for a couple seconds
[07:48] <mmahmood> amarok, k3b, kscd, kaudiocreater, kaffeine, kmix
[07:48] <kwtm2> Why isn't synaptic installed on my kUbuntu Breezy?
[07:48] <Hobbsee> kwtm2: adept also works
[07:48] <Hobbsee> synaptic wasnt default on kubuntu hoary either
[07:48] <crimsun> crutch: no
[07:48] <Hobbsee> kwtm2: you can install it by apt-get if you want to, or by adept
[07:49] <crimsun> I would think that Adept is preferred on KDE
 it was not installed i installed it just now
[07:49] <crimsun> Synaptic is a GNOME-centric one
[07:50] <kwtm2> Ah.  Okay, I'm trying to understand this file at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325.  Am I supposed to save it under some particular name like /etc/deb_sources or something?
[07:50] <crutch> thanks crimsun, i was just grasping at threads and may turn back to gnome as it worked no problem there
[07:50] <chavo> synaptic is nice though and with gtk-qt engine looks just like a KDE app
[07:50] <kwtm2> Maybe I'll use adept to install synaptic and use synaptic instead.
[07:50] <Hobbsee> kwtm2: kdesu kwrite etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <kwtm2> Partly because adept is newer and less supported, and most instructions use synaptic.
[07:51] <kwtm2> Hobbsee: thank you!  Now I wonder where in the instructions it mentions *anything* about "/etc/apt/sources.list" ... without that key piece of info, I'm dead in teh water.
[07:52] <Hobbsee> overwrite what's there
[07:53] <Hobbsee> kwtm2: good point, not sure why that's not there
[07:53] <Hobbsee> !repositories
[07:53] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[07:53] <Hobbsee> ah ok, you were supopsed to go to the howto first, i think
[07:54] <Hobbsee> and you learn the /etc/apt/sources.list pretty quickly - ie how to get to it
[07:57] <aftertaf> hi all
[07:58] <Hobbsee> hi aftertaf :)
[07:58] <aftertaf> hi kde user :)
[07:58] <aliveuser> how much save is to upgrade to breezy using apt-get dist-upgrade???
[07:59] <Hobbsee> should be fairly safe, the release is out...
[07:59] <Hobbsee> safer still to install off a cd though
[07:59] <aftertaf> aliveuser:  it works really well, except for those unlucky soem where it doesnt' :)   but we're here to help
[07:59] <Logikal`> hi Hobbsee
[08:00] <Hobbsee> hi Logikal`
[08:00] <Logikal`> what's up?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: lol
[08:00] <Logikal`> did you upgrade yet?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> not a lot, finished my first of the 6 final exams
[08:00] <Hobbsee> to breezy?  ages ago, a couple of days before the RC
[08:01] <Logikal`> well
[08:01] <Logikal`> the official release came out
[08:01] <Logikal`> do i need to upgrade?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> you dont have to
[08:01] <aftertaf> well done Hobbsee what u doing? studywise
[08:01] <Hobbsee> there are some nice things
[08:01] <Hobbsee> as in now, or next year?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> this year's the end of high school
[08:01] <aftertaf> Logikal`:  kde is nicer, some extras exist....
[08:01] <Hobbsee> next year i'm doing a bachelor of technology in optoelectronic
[08:01] <Hobbsee> s
[08:01] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  highschool? as in QueryAge(Hobbsee)
[08:02] <Hobbsee> yeah, 17
[08:02] <Logikal`> kde is nicer in the full release?
[08:02] <Logikal`> how so?
[08:02] <Logikal`> Hobbsee you got pics of yourself
[08:02] <Hobbsee> no
[08:02] <Logikal`> why not?
[08:02] <Logikal`> lol
[08:02] <Hobbsee> well, none that i'd show anyway
[08:02] <Hobbsee> lol
[08:02] <Logikal`> haha
[08:02] <Logikal`> come on
[08:02] <Logikal`> ill show you mine!
[08:03] <aliveuser> i upgrade my kubuntu like that, but i'm having a little trouble with the grub
[08:03] <Hobbsee> go away
[08:03] <Logikal`> come on now :)
[08:03] <Hobbsee> what trouble with grub?
[08:03] <Logikal`> are you like 500lbs Hobbsee
[08:03] <aliveuser> well, when my system starts to load, it starts with a, lets say graphical mode
[08:03] <Logikal`> lol
[08:03] <aliveuser> but in the middle, it turn into a text mode
[08:03] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  wow. 17 :) ... you're a geek girl too right?
[08:03] <Hobbsee> lol...no...i just dont generally show what i look like to people
[08:03] <Logikal`> here is my pics
[08:03] <aliveuser> but that's okey
[08:03] <Logikal`> www.myspace.com/logikal42
[08:03] <sekundek> hi
[08:03] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: well, i do run kubuntu and not windows, so i guess so lol
[08:03] <Logikal`> there is my pics..
[08:03] <sekundek> I need some help with mounting samba drive
[08:04] <sekundek> and permission
[08:04] <aliveuser> the thing is that when i shutdown it doesn't show anything about the unloading of services,
[08:04] <aliveuser> doesn't show the progress of anything
[08:04] <aliveuser> just a black screen
[08:04] <Hobbsee> aliveuser: this is in breezy?  i've noticed that, never figured out why
[08:04] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  hehe :) girls on linux seem quite rare....   but good to see.... calms down the testosterone levels in here :)
[08:04] <Logikal`> Hobbsee you're too serious all the time
[08:04] <Logikal`> :)
[08:05] <aliveuser> yes in breezy
[08:05] <Logikal`> drink a beer or sumthing
[08:05] <Hobbsee> hit ctrl + alt + f7 if you really want to see it all shutting down
[08:05] <aliveuser> okey i take a note of it
[08:05] <aliveuser> tnks
[08:05] <sekundek> in mount it read/write but have problem changing files with chmod
[08:05] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: that's true...always seems so odd to hear about guys picking up girls because they run linux or something lol
[08:05] <sekundek> i need this because of subversion
[08:06] <Logikal`> Hobbsee dont you live in australia?
[08:06] <Hobbsee> Logikal`: that i do
[08:06] <sekundek> is it possible to mount some other way
[08:06] <Logikal`> you ever pet a roo?
[08:06] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  yeah .... :)  like i'm gonna hit on you cos we've only got half the planet between us.....
[08:06] <Logikal`> record yourself talking
[08:06] <Logikal`> I wanna hear your austrailian accent
[08:06] <Logikal`> :)
[08:06] <Hobbsee> sure, my pet roo that i rode to school this morning, he likes attention
[08:06] <Logikal`> accents are hot
[08:06] <Hobbsee> that they are...the US ones are quite different to ours
[08:06] <Logikal`> heh
[08:07] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: dont be surprised, plenty of people try...
[08:07] <Logikal`> where i live, I have no accent :\
[08:07] <Hobbsee> Logikal`: you're where? the us?
[08:07] <Logikal`> yes
[08:07] <aftertaf> Logikal`:  getting away from the place asap, i understand that, but what you flee is alway within you.... ;)
[08:07] <Logikal`> PA tho
[08:07] <Logikal`> Pennsylvania
[08:07] <Hobbsee> you have an accent
[08:07] <Logikal`> only thing we dont say is "this needs to be"
[08:07] <Hobbsee> heard some people from there
[08:07] <Logikal`> we jsut say this needs done
[08:07] <Logikal`> no "to be"
[08:07] <Logikal`> I dont really think we do :\
[08:07] <Logikal`> maybe we do to you
[08:08] <Hobbsee> no, you do
[08:08] <Logikal`> record urself
[08:08] <Hobbsee> speak to someone in another country, and you'll soon find out
[08:08] <Logikal`> and ill record myself
[08:08] <Hobbsee> nah, no mic on here
[08:08] <Hobbsee> not sure where it is
[08:08] <Hobbsee> used to have one somewhere...everyone was always stunned with aussie accents
[08:08] <Logikal`> i heard austrailian girls like american guys
[08:08] <Logikal`> or something
[08:08] <Hobbsee> sometimes, they like australian guys too...
[08:08] <Logikal`> don't know how true that is
[08:09] <Logikal`> never really met an aussie girl
[08:09] <Hobbsee> well we do exist...
[08:09] <Logikal`> haha
[08:09] <Logikal`> yeah
[08:09] <Logikal`> didn't say you didnt :)
[08:09] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:09] <Logikal`> what do you guys do over there?
[08:09] <Logikal`> it's farmland right?
[08:09] <Kaiser_Away> thats enought runescape for one day
[08:10] <Kaiser_Away> Logikal`: yeh, im sending this message via burning crops
[08:10] <Hobbsee> maybe you should check this out
[08:10] <aftertaf> looool Kaiser_Away :)
[08:10] <Hobbsee> http://www.australiablog.com/guide/001381.shtml
[08:10] <Kaiser_Away> :) aftertaf
[08:10] <kwtm2> Anyone know how I enable the "multiverse" repositories in Breezy?  Is "multiverse" same as "universe"?
[08:10] <Hobbsee> !repos
[08:11] <ubotu> sources is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[08:11] <Hobbsee> that might answer some of your aussie questions :P
[08:11] <aftertaf> kwtm2:  not same buch of packages, but on same servers.
[08:11] <Kaiser_Away> Hobbsee: i dont see anything on that wiki page about australian chicks :|
[08:11] <Hobbsee> Kaiser_Away: true, but did you go and read it?
[08:12] <Kaiser_Away> Hobbsee: last time it was pasted ;)
[08:12] <Kaiser_Away> your link, im reading now ;P
[08:12] <Logikal`> dude
[08:12] <Logikal`> why is neve campbell so hot
[08:12] <Hobbsee> Kaiser_Away: it's excellent for giving to people who ask about australia, dont you think :P
[08:13] <Kaiser_Away> Hobbsee: perfect, but the problem is its all true :$
[08:13] <Logikal`> Hobbsee
[08:13] <Logikal`> you're terrible LOL
[08:13] <Logikal`> just becuase we dont know about where you live
[08:13] <aftertaf> No, we are a peaceful civilisation of vegan hunter gatherers. Milk is
[08:13] <aftertaf> illegal.
[08:13] <aftertaf> loool
[08:13] <Kaiser_Away> lmao
[08:14] <Hobbsee> ROFL i love that
[08:14] <aftertaf> can you speak english there? yeah, but youll need to learn it first :]
[08:14] <aftertaf> lmao2
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Kaiser_Away: what do they teach the US people in geography...do you not learn to read a newspaper?
[08:14] <Logikal`> aussies speak english primarily right?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:14] <Hobbsee> what else would we speak?
[08:14] <Kaiser_Away> Hobbsee: not sure what tehy teach them. but i at least i know theres more to america then arms factories :|
[08:15] <aftertaf> loool Kaiser_Away  :)
[08:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:15] <Kaiser_Away> Hobbsee: we could speak chinese ... the yellow hoard ;)
[08:15] <Hobbsee> ooh yeah...now that could be fun
[08:16] <Logikal`> Kaiser_Away, there is?
[08:16] <Logikal`> america
[08:16] <Logikal`> we have
[08:16] <Logikal`> bombs, gangs, and guns
[08:16] <Logikal`> and drugs
[08:16] <Kaiser_Away> and silicon vally :O
[08:17] <Kaiser_Away> but all that aside
[08:17] <Kaiser_Away> im going to eat lunch
[08:17] <Hobbsee> Kaiser_Away: lunch?
[08:17] <Kaiser_Away> just in timefor dinner ;)
[08:18] <Logikal`> oh yeah
[08:18] <Hobbsee> of course
[08:18] <Kaiser_Away> yeh, think of it as brunch Hobbsee
[08:18] <Logikal`> americans like sex
[08:18] <Logikal`> and drugs
[08:18] <Logikal`> wait did i say that already
[08:18] <Kaiser_Away> as i havent had breakfast either
[08:18] <Hobbsee> Kaiser_Away: lol...i'm surprised you're here then
[08:18] <Kaiser_Away> lol Hobbsee. you think i have better things to do? ;)
[08:18] <Kaiser_Essen> have fun kids. no making babies any of you
[08:19] <Hobbsee> that's true
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Kaiser_Essen: i dont think the latter will be any problem lol
[08:19] <mmahmood> I'm trying to run Noatun and it's giving error: connecting/starting aRts soundserver failed. make sre that artsd is configured properly
[08:20] <Logikal`> you got cable in australia
[08:20] <Hobbsee> Logikal`: of course
[08:21] <aftertaf> you got electricity too ?? ;)
[08:21] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: nah, we got rid of that...
[08:21] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:21] <aftertaf> :)
[08:21] <aftertaf> ok, brb coffee and cigarette time
[08:25] <Hobbsee> mmahmood: try googling the error message
[08:26] <aftertaf> mmahmood:  try changing the outpug engine too.
[08:26] <aftertaf> output*
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ah, was that what the solution was, i'd forgotten
[08:26] <mmahmood> k thx
[08:49] <sekundek> hi
[08:50] <sekundek> I need some help about mounting samba share
[08:50] <sekundek> can anybody help
[08:50] <sekundek> I have problem using chmod on this mount
[08:50] <strike4ce> How do i get my source list up from terminal?
[08:51] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <sekundek> ?
[08:53] <strike4ce> thanx
[08:53] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: no problems
[08:53] <strike4ce> Im trying to get my ati 9600 radeon card going
[08:53] <strike4ce> had a little problem
[08:54] <Hobbsee> but go for it
[08:54] <aftertaf> lol same here
[08:54] <Hobbsee> sekundek: we cant do anything unless you stick an error message in, or give more detail - "a problem" says close to nothing
[08:55] <sekundek> ok I create mount with samba dir
[08:55] <Hobbsee> sekundek: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html is something you  might want to read at some point
[08:55] <sekundek> i can access to this folder and create files etc
[08:55] <Hobbsee> yep
[08:55] <sekundek> but when i try to chmod 644 somefile
[08:55] <sekundek> i get permission error
[08:55] <strike4ce> I cant get adept to open I put a bad source in it and it crashed
[08:56] <sekundek> chmod: changing permissions of `test': Operation not permitted
[08:56] <Hobbsee> sekundek: preface chmod with kdesu?
[08:56] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: darn, what source did you put in?
[08:56] <sekundek> yeah I know that
[08:56] <strike4ce> just a sec
[08:56] <sekundek> but I use svn which do this by itself
[08:57] <sekundek> when doint update checkout etc.
[08:57] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: here ya go   wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/fglrx-4.3.0-3.7.6.i386.rpm
[08:58] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: um...why do i want it lol...i dont have an ati card?
[08:58] <sekundek> is there any way I can have smb share accessed in some folder but with right permission not root
[08:58] <sekundek> ?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> oh, that's the source you put in
[08:58] <strike4ce> Hobbsee:  thats what i put in the source list and then it crashed
[08:58] <Hobbsee> strike4ce: no wonder...that's not supposed to go in a source list lol...you need to download that and use it with alien, then try
[08:59] <strike4ce> lol i got it to open now
[08:59] <strike4ce> removed it
[08:59] <Hobbsee> sekundek: as in, to be able to modify it with user permission?
[09:00] <strike4ce> Hobbsee: where do I get alien?
[09:00] <Hobbsee> smb:/ in konqueror, and going thru there should get you the shared computers
[09:00] <Hobbsee> !alien
[09:00] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[09:00] <Hobbsee> !info alien
[09:00] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[09:01] <Hobbsee> sekundek: you wanting to share one of your own folders, or read/write to another computer drive?
[09:03] <sekundek> Hobbsee: no I have server in win domain
[09:03] <sekundek> and there I have access to my home
[09:03] <sekundek> on this server
[09:03] <sekundek> On my workstation I wan to use this home because I have web space there
[09:04] <sekundek> so I need to mount or something smb://server/myhome
[09:04] <Hobbsee> and does it work if you mount it that way?
[09:04] <Kaiser_Essen> when you chmod, use sudo, not [gk] sudo
[09:06] <sekundek> I can mount it
[09:06] <sekundek> and copy delete etc.
[09:06] <sekundek> but chmod does not work
[09:06] <sekundek> but I need there because of subversion
[09:06] <sekundek> it change permission in .svn dirs
[09:07] <strike4ce> Can I use a linux x86 driver?
[09:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> strike4ce: in 2 lines or less, whats teh problem again?
[09:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> sekundek: and im not sure about your problem either (as i wasnt here)
[09:11] <sekundek> Kamping_Kaiser: I have samba share on some server and need to mount this on my workstation
[09:12] <sekundek> but I also need permission to do chmod in this mount
[09:12] <sekundek> because of subversion
[09:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> so you need permision to chmod the content of the share?
[09:13] <sekundek> yes
[09:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> i expect you will need share=user or similar, but im afraid im not an expert on samba by any means :(
[09:14] <strike4ce> Kamping_Kaiser: If i download a rpm file will it need to be converted?
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> strike4ce: convirted or installed direct, but its recomended that you convirt tehm, so you can look at them in synaptic etc
[09:15] <strike4ce> So how do I convert them?
[09:16] <aftertaf> alien
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> open a terminal --> alien
[09:17] <aftertaf> #apt alien
[09:17] <strike4ce> Kamping_Kaiser: there is a script file can I paste that into my graphics card?
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> i forget the exacty syntax to convirt
[09:17] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  alien
[09:18] <sekundek> Kamping_Kaiser: the problem is not with smb share but with mount
[09:18] <aftertaf> man alien ;) Kamping_Kaiser
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: :P why? i dont want to use it :D
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> sekundek: oh, ok
[09:19] <aftertaf> lol :)
[09:19] <strike4ce> aftertaf: says alien is already the newest version?
[09:19] <aftertaf> strike4ce:  cool, its already there then ;)
[09:20] <strike4ce> aftertaf: what about the file thats script can I copy and paste and put it in place of my current graphics driver?
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> strike4ce: im not sure about your question
[09:20] <aftertaf> me neither.... ;)
[09:21] <strike4ce> aftertaf: take a look its called ati driver installer  https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894
[09:21] <bengross> good evening everyone
[09:21] <sekundek> is there any way I can use cifs in kubuntu
[09:21] <aftertaf> strike4ce:  hmm. cant you use the restricted packages module for ubuntu?
[09:21] <aftertaf> morning bengross :)
[09:21] <sekundek> I found that with this it may be possible
[09:22] <strike4ce> where is that?
[09:22] <strike4ce> !restricted packages
[09:22] <ubotu> strike4ce: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:23] <strike4ce> aftertaf: where is the module?
[09:23] <aftertaf> linux-restricted-modules-k7|686
[09:24] <strike4ce> in terminal?
[09:24] <bengross> its 12;24 here in Arizona
[09:24] <bengross> anyone know about setting up wireless?
[09:27] <strike4ce> aftertaf: its there now what do i do?
[09:27] <bengross> how do i login as root?
[09:27] <aftertaf> strike4ce:  in synaptic, adept,  or via apt-get
[09:27] <aftertaf> bengross:  use sudo.....
[09:27] <aftertaf> !root
[09:27] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:28] <aftertaf> strike4ce:  sudo apt-get install  linux-restricted-modules-k[your architecture]
[09:29] <strike4ce> aftertaf: architecture?  My card is ati radeon 9600 pro turbo
[09:29] <bengross> ok thanks
[09:29] <bengross> i am trying to install audacity
[09:29] <aftertaf> processor... amd, pentium?
[09:30] <bengross> anyone know any multitrack open source programs for audio editing?
[09:30] <strike4ce> intel pentium M
[09:30] <aftertaf> i686 then.
[09:30] <aftertaf> 686 even;)
[09:30] <aftertaf> strike4ce:  have you seen !ati ?
[09:30] <aftertaf> !ati
[09:30] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:31] <guinsel> !konsole
[09:31] <ubotu> guinsel: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:34] <firestorm> Hi. how can I disable the annoying beep for my terminals? I tried 'set nobeep' but that didn't seem to work
[09:35] <sekundek> I found solution in case someone needs it
[09:35] <strike4ce> aftertaf: will that work for breezy?
[09:35] <sekundek> All you have to do is -o user=myusername
[09:35] <aftertaf> nice one sekundek :)
[09:35] <aftertaf> can you put that in the wiki?
[09:35] <sekundek> then share is owned by that user and I can do whatever I want
[09:36] <aftertaf> !samba
[09:36] <ubotu> I heard samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:36] <sekundek> Yes I can
[09:36] <bengross> hey i died
[09:36] <bengross> im back
[09:36] <aftertaf> lol i died :)
[09:36] <sekundek> where I can write this
[09:36] <sekundek> ?
[09:36] <aftertaf> strike4ce:  i think so, but i dont have an ati
[09:36] <aftertaf> sekundek:  ^^^^ see ubotu's link
[09:37] <aftertaf> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[09:37] <aftertaf> or make a new page...
[09:37] <sekundek> ok I'll edit this one
[09:37] <sampan> firestorm, in konsole ... did you try settings --> beep --> none ?
[09:37] <aftertaf> hehe sekundek  good of you, man ;)
[09:38] <bengross> how do i install a lot of programs at once? is there a gui for installing software?j
[09:38] <firestorm> sampan: ahh thanks...actually s/beep/bell and it works a champ
[09:38] <sampan> oh lol :D my bad
[09:38] <aftertaf> bengross:  yes.    adept, or synaptic
[09:38] <bengross> is that in control center?
[09:39] <aftertaf> kde or gnome?
[09:39] <aftertaf> adept is in systemmenu on kde
[09:39] <aftertaf> normally.... ;)
[09:39] <bengross> kynaptic
[09:39] <aftertaf> if not, open a console and type sudo apt-get install  adept
[09:39] <aftertaf> kynaptic too, but it sux a bit (imho)
[09:40] <bengross> sometimes my sound loads on boot, sometimes it doesnt :(
[09:41] <bengross> is there an alsamixer?
[09:41] <bengross> sndconfig?
[09:42] <bengross> i did a search cannot find adept
[09:46] <sekundek> Hm, I create my account on lunchpad and can login, but in wiki ubuntu I can't
[09:55] <sekundek> can somebody help with login to ubuntu wiki
[10:21] <Tonio-> hi
[10:26] <puckman> Morning
[10:29] <_mindspin> Hi, i upgraded zo breezy and can't find neither kcontrol nor the new "system settings" entry which packages do I have to install? btw. I know that I can start kcontrol via terminal ;-)
[10:32] <TokenBad> I used system settings
[10:32] <TokenBad> I think
[10:32] <TokenBad> if we talking about samething
[10:32] <_mindspin> and where did you find it ? by typing system settings in a terminal ??
[10:33] <TokenBad> no...its listed at the top of my kmenu
[10:33] <_mindspin> but not on mine :-(
[10:39] <cyne> how do i convert a file from dos linebreaks to unix linebreaks?
[10:40] <cyne> Kate just saves it again with dos line breaks
[10:41] <_mindspin> theres en entry in extras where you can set this
[10:41] <cyne> there must be a simple way to do it
[10:42] <_mindspin> its called zeilenende in german
[10:42] <cyne> extras?
[10:42] <cyne> where?
[10:42] <_mindspin> and you can choose linux/windows/mac behaviour
[10:42] <_mindspin> open kate
[10:42] <cyne> ok
[10:42] <_mindspin> click on extras
[10:42] <TokenBad> anyone know of the netstat.pl for xchat?
[10:43] <cyne> _mindspin: i tried that, and save as with Kate, but it still saves it again in DOS
[10:43] <cyne> format
[10:44] <egonw> hi all, I have a amarok/breezy problem: KDE has sound, but amarok does not? I already played with different engine, with no succes.... ideas?
[10:44] <_mindspin> cyne: seems like a bug then
[10:45] <_mindspin> have a try opening the file in vim
[10:45] <_mindspin> that helps sometimes.....
[10:45] <cyne> what is "utf8
[10:45] <cyne> what is "utf8" ?
[10:45] <cyne> is that DOS?
[10:46] <aseigo> it's a way to encode non-latin characters
[10:46] <aseigo> (a standard way, that is)
[10:46] <cyne> ok, like english text?
[10:46] <_mindspin> cyne: think so....
[10:46] <cyne> it has nothing to do with DOS/Unix ?
[10:47] <aseigo> no, as in "not english text"
[10:47] <_mindspin> cyne: you are sure you are in the right option field?
[10:47] <aseigo> where "english" means "latin characters"
[10:47] <_mindspin> encoding is not the right place
[10:47] <aseigo> and i don't know what you mean by "to do with DOS/Unix"
[10:47] <aseigo> DOS and UNIX are operating systems (or families of them)
[10:47] <Tm_T> we need utf8 for , , , and other
[10:48] <aseigo> ah.. you want the line ending styles
[10:48] <cyne> aseigo: when i try and save my document it's asking wether i want to use utf8 to save it
[10:48] <cyne> whether
[10:48] <aseigo> in a separate dialog or in the file save dialog?
[10:48] <cyne> in the file save
[10:48] <aseigo> yeah, you can just ignore that
[10:49] <cyne> ok...
[10:49] <cyne> must be a bug in kate
[10:49] <cyne> it opens a dos file and saves in dos as well
[10:50] <zax> how can i mount my usb drive it wont work
[10:51] <cyne> pico does the same thing
[10:52] <cyne> when i do write_out it says "save as: [ dos format ]  "
[10:52] <cyne> i can't select unix format
[10:52] <zax> how do i mount my drive i forgot the command
[10:52] <cyne> piece of crap!
[10:52] <cyne> is there not a quick utility to convert line breaks?
[10:52] <_mindspin> perl
[10:52] <cyne> zax: what drive?
[10:53] <zax> its a usb
[10:53] <zax> sda
[10:54] <cyne> mount /dev/sda1
[10:54] <cyne> sudo mount /dev/sda1
[10:55] <zax> it cant determine the filesystem type and none is specified
[10:55] <zax> ..er none was
[10:55] <zax> whats the command 2 specify its fat32
[10:57] <Pwn3r> try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat
[10:58] <cyne> great, i get to go use windows now just so i can get something to convert line breaks to unix
[11:00] <zax> nope doesent work
[11:00] <zax> its close
[11:00] <Pwn3r> close?
[11:01] <Pwn3r> could it be a ntfs partition?
[11:01] <zax> it is not
[11:01] <Pwn3r> try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 -t msdos
[11:01] <zax> when i try to tell it sda1 it dosent like it
[11:01] <Pwn3r> oh
[11:01] <zax> but if i just do sda i can get way less errors
[11:02] <Pwn3r> sudo mount /dev/sda -t vfat
[11:02] <Pwn3r> ?
[11:02] <aseigo> cyne: dude, are you trying to fix line breaks or worrying about encodings? they are 2 different things.
[11:02] <zax> i just get this crazy list of how to use the mount command
[11:04] <cyne> aseigo: i'm just trying to save my dos text file over to unix line breaks
[11:04] <Pwn3r> the package sysutils has a app called dos2unix that may do what you need
[11:04] <aseigo> cyne: if you're worred about line breaks, under Settings choose Configure Editor (in kwrite, anyways; in kate it's in the Configure Kate dialog itself) and go to the Open/Save tab
[11:04] <aseigo> cyne: the end of line preference is there
[11:04] <aseigo> cyne: there's a very easy way... assuming they are all in the same dir:
[11:05] <cyne> aseigo: yes it is, but when i go to save as, the file is written out in DOS again
[11:05] <aseigo> for i in *; do dos2unix -o $i; done;
[11:07] <cyne> thanks :)
[11:07] <cyne> i will try kwrite because kate is shafting me
[11:07] <cyne> pico also doesn't save in unix unless the file is already in unix
[11:07] <_mindspin> aseigo:aseigo: i upgraded zo breezy and can't find neither kcontrol nor the new "system settings" entry which packages do I have to install? btw. I know that I can start kcontrol via terminal ;-)
[11:09] <aseigo> _mindspin: no idea. i haven't tried the new kubuntu yet
[11:09] <TokenBad> anyone know of the netstat.pl for xchat?
[11:09] <_mindspin> I'm just testing it
[11:09] <cyne> thanks for your help aseigo
[11:09] <_mindspin> but I#m not satisfied yet
[11:11] <zax> mabye something with something is mounted on usbfs
[11:11] <_mindspin> !usb
[11:11] <ubotu> _mindspin: Are you smoking crack?
[11:12] <_mindspin> never
[11:13] <_jeremy> hi folks... I've just installed breezy and am just having a but of trouble understanding which repositories (or what they are) that I need to add to get all the codecs I wan't... can anyone help please ? Thanks.
[11:15] <Pwn3r> zax: try this: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda
[11:15] <Pwn3r> zax was mixed up before
[11:16] <zax> Could not mount device.
[11:16] <zax> The reported error was:
[11:16] <zax> mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[11:16] <zax> Please check that the disk is entered correctly.
[11:17] <zax> but i can go to right click and go to "safely remove" which is wierd
[11:17] <zax> btw the base url says file:///media/usb0
[11:18] <Pwn3r> when you type 'mount' does it mention any of those?
[11:18] <aftertaf> _jeremy:  read this.......
[11:18] <aftertaf> !repositories
[11:18] <ubotu> I heard sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:18] <aftertaf> !w32codecs
[11:18] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[11:18] <zax> nope closest thing is something on usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[11:19] <Pwn3r> thats fine
[11:19] <_jeremy> ok thanks aftertaf
[11:19] <Pwn3r> i had problems wuth my usb media not showing up where it was supposed to as well
[11:20] <Pwn3r> i got so sick of it i upgraded to a beta kde because i heard it worked fine in there
[11:20] <zax> i get a icon on the desktop too for sda
[11:20] <_jeremy> ubotu is a very helpful bot... good job folks
[11:20] <ubotu> _jeremy: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:20] <_jeremy> ehhe
[11:20] <zax> and it mounted in ubuntu even though i uh... forgot how i mounted it
[11:21] <Pwn3r> what happens when you click the destop icon?
[11:21] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:21] <zax> i get the error i pasted above
[11:21] <zax> same error if i comand line it
[11:21] <Pwn3r> ah
[11:22] <Pwn3r> but it works in windows?
[11:22] <zax> yup and ubuntu
[11:22] <zax> its fat32
[11:24] <Pwn3r> i would mount it in ubuntu then type 'mount' to see how its mounted
[11:24] <Pwn3r> what fs and where its mounted etc
[11:24] <toom> I cannot read all video files sine I installed breezy... Help me...
[11:24] <zax> ill see i gota do some more research
[11:28] <Pwn3r> how can i change a partitions label?
[11:29] <Pwn3r> one of my usb partitions are called '/' and it messes up auto mounting
[11:29] <aftertaf> usb partition called /?   as in Root ? :/
[11:30] <Pwn3r> yea
[11:31] <Pwn3r> ah never mind
[11:31] <Pwn3r> it was empty so i just deleted it
[11:32] <aftertaf> lol
[11:32] <Pwn3r> now its back with the same name
[11:32] <Pwn3r> :P
[11:33] <aftertaf> microwave your usb key, it might not be cokked enough :)
[11:33] <Pwn3r> hehe
[11:34] <aftertaf> *cooked
[11:34] <aftertaf> or *coked
[11:34] <aftertaf> :)
[11:34] <paines> hi
[11:34] <Pwn3r> its a usb 60GB hard drive with multiple partitions
[11:34] <aftertaf> oki.
[11:34] <Pwn3r> its all good tho
[11:34] <Pwn3r> hi paines
[11:35] <gath> morning
[11:35] <Pwn3r> good morning
[11:36] <gath> morning
[11:37] <gath> i use the new breezy
[11:37] <gath> i have problems with the cd
[11:38] <gath> always on start i get a cr-rom icon on desktop
[11:38] <gath> and cdrom is on hdc, why this ?
[11:52] <Kaiser_Runes> gath: is the cd in the drive?
[11:52] <gath> no
[11:52] <gath> and if i put a cd into the drive, nothing happend
[11:53] <Hobbsee> is your cd drive recognising any cds?
[11:55] <Kaiser_Runes> hi Hobbsee :) strait into it :)
[11:55] <Hobbsee> hello Kaiser_Runes...i wandered back
[11:55] <Hobbsee> of course
[11:55] <Kaiser_Runes> gath: if you type "mount" in konsole, does it show the cd mounted
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[11:56] <gath> moment
[11:58] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: there is noch cd
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you put the output of 'mount' in #flood or pastebin for us?
[11:59] <gath> jepp
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its a kde level stuffup i cant help a lot, but if its lower then that i might be able to
[11:59] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: on flood
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> i watched :)
[12:01] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: ok
[12:01] <Hobbsee> i didnt lol
[12:01] <gath> and what do you say?
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> your right, its not there :| can you delte the icon from your desktop?
[12:02] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: no i can`t
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh :( what a strange problem
[12:03] <gath> and if i put some cd inside, i can`t start the cd
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you manualy mount it?
[12:04] <gath> i try
[12:04] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: the computer hngs
[12:04] <Hobbsee> tried ctrl + alt + backspace, logging in again, then trying again?
[12:05] <Hobbsee> gath: is it still hanging, or can you get rid of the program?
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: so you typed 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom' and the computer hung?
[12:05] <gath> yes as sudo
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> does it try and read the cdrom?
[12:06] <gath> yes, thats the point
[12:07] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: at least that means that the drive is working..or should be
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> so it does try to read the cdrom? and it hangs
[12:07] <gath> yeah
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: yeh, thats what it sounds like :O perhaps a manual mount
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: has it 'unhung'?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> i'd try restarting x, then trying, that sometimes seems to fix it
[12:07] <gath> what mean unhung?
[12:07] <Hobbsee> as in, not hanging
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> stopped hanging
[12:08] <gath> nozthing happend
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> try 'sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom && sudo mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom' (you can copy that direct, minus the 's)
[12:09] <Hobbsee> 3 hard drives hey, fun
[12:10] <gath> i did this
[12:10] <gath> but nothing works
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: what does 'nothing works' mean?
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: not necesarily
[12:11] <gath> i try the other drive
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> could be 1 hdd+cdrom
[12:11] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: true, hadnt thought of that
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: hdc just means the drive is secondary master
[12:11] <gath> and why is the cdrom in medias and has a hdc?
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: hdc is  where the kernel looks.  it gets mounted into /media/cdrom for users to use
[12:12] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: *thinks*...good point, i thought hdb counted the secondary drive, but i guess there's a primary slave too
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. hda=prim master, hdb, prim slave. doesnt matter if ones not there, thats still what its called
[12:13] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: right.  as you might have guessed, i only have one hard drive
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: do you have a cdrom?
[12:14] <gath> ok, the other drive doesn`t work too
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: do you have 2 cdroms? and niether work?
[12:14] <gath> maybe something wrong in the fstab?
[12:14] <gath> yes
[12:14] <gath> i paste my fstab in flood
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you changed your hardware around at all?
[12:16] <gath> ups, there is no cd in the fstab
[12:16] <gath> why not ?
[12:16] <gath> oh sorry i see
[12:16] <gath> it is there
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: can you past 'ls -lAh /media/' to flood as well?
[12:16] <kane> ok, so, does kuser work for anyone in here ?
[12:16] <gath> yes
[12:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> kane: i havent tried it
[12:17] <kane> has anyone tried to create a new user ? :)
[12:18] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: yes i past it
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: so you have a cd in both drives, and there is nothing when you 'ls /media/cdrom/'?
[12:20] <gath> yes , a cd in both drives, and nothing with ls /media/cdrom/
[12:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> right... this is bizare. i cant think of anything that could have caused this :| or an easy fix :|
[12:22] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: i thing it is after the breezy ugrade yesterday
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> ahh.... did you upgrade to breezy stable? and you dist-upgraded?
[12:22] <gath> yes
[12:22] <gath> yesterday
[12:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you run top, is hal/fam/similar burning all your cpu cycles?
[12:26] <gath> what?
[12:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: can you run 'top' in konsole?
[12:26] <gath> yes
[12:26] <satempler> so when it the hal thing going to be solved
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> is there anything using 100% cpu ?
[12:27] <gath> no
[12:27] <gath> 1,3 %
[12:27] <mrmarcel> g
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. thats good i suppose
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> satempler: when tehy can
[12:28] <gath> ok, i restart the computer
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> make sure the cds are out when you do
[12:28] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: IMHO they shouldn't have released it like it is
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> imho your correct, from what i hear kde 3.5 was put in 2 days before release
[12:29] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: jesus
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> and lots of ppl are not happy about it, but it happened
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hopefully we all learned a lesson :|
[12:29] <satempler> ya well that is at the top of my gripe list though there are others
[12:30] <paines> there are kde 3.5 packages ?
[12:30] <aftertaf> they stuck beta 3.5 in breezy like that?
[12:30] <satempler> i like to use kaffeine but the damn thing can't play any video files from apple
[12:30] <aftertaf> :O
[12:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> ist that what they stuck in?
[12:31] <satempler> no
[12:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> satempler: probably codecs? :|
[12:31] <satempler> Kaming_Kaiser I have all of them
[12:31] <satempler> Kaming_Kaiser added to that i also have the w32codecs
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> satempler: well the w32s are only doze, no apple stuff. not sure where to look for apple kit.
[12:32] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: as well as i use kaffeine-xine and gstreamer did a gst-register and still didn't work
[12:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont have any of it on this lappy. i got mplayer+codec  tar from mplayerhq.hu == every codec i need :)
[12:33] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: no they have the windows apple stuff
[12:33] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: maybe I should try that
[12:34] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: what is the web site
[12:35] <satempler> Timeout on server
[12:35] <satempler>  Connection was to www.mplayerhq.hu at port 80
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. punch 'mplayer' into <search engine> and you should get there first hit
[12:35] <satempler> what is that
[12:35] <satempler> why isn't it working
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> i might have the wrong url, but i dont have a browser to loook it up
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> !mplayer
[12:35] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. not what i was after, but oh well
[12:36] <yo2lux> hi
[12:36] <satempler> I just want the codecs
[12:36] <satempler> hmm
[12:36] <satempler> I think I have an idea
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> satempler: mplayer codecs only work with mplayer afaik, but i could be wrong
[12:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi yo2lux
[12:37] <yo2lux> i have a question. Exist a way to use kubuntu on 800x600 display? I don't see my KDE windows good, all windows are big. Anyone help me a bit? my monitor not support bigger display than 800x600
[12:38] <aftertaf> yo2lux:  reduce font size etc... or you can have a virtual 1024x768 screen where you scroll around with mouse pointer
[12:38] <satempler> Kamping_Kaiser: I am trying somthing a bit radical
[12:38] <satempler> one sec
[12:38] <aftertaf> yo2lux:  you can reduce a lot of things in size, panels, icons etc
[12:43] <gath> re
[12:45] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: back
[12:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb gath
[12:46] <gath> the one drive works now
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> which one? hdc or hdd?
[12:47] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: i changed the sek master with the sek slave
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> and you still have the icon on the desktop?
[12:48] <gath> no
[12:48] <gath> no icon
[12:49] <gath> and if i put some cd in the hdc drive a window open with its content
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats good
[12:49] <gath> but the other drive doesn?t work
[12:50] <murr> how can i use scandinavians in Konversation IRC client? they don't work at the moment...
[12:50] <paines> J# kubuntu-de
[12:50] <paines> ups
[12:51] <moshe> I edited xorg.conf so that my highest resolution would be 1152x864 but kde and gnome and the rest behave like it's 1280x1024 and the screen isn't big enough -- bringing the mouse to the edge of the screen causes the entire screen to scroll!
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: oh, so only one drive still. both have power? did you check one is set to slave and one set to master?
[12:52] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: it can`t merge the drive hdd
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> moshe: its set a virtual desktop
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: no, but it can ignore one
[12:52] <moshe> what do you mean?
[12:52] <gath> hdc is now master and hdd slave
[12:53] <moshe> usually, i just cap the max resolution and everything falls in line.  This is the first time I've encountered this
[12:53] <gath> so, i change now the cable
[12:53] <_jeremy> ok... Ive installed breezy... now I have problems... getting this error (or ones like it) from apt "http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] "... and I can no longer play various media types despite attempting to install w32codecs and libdvdcss... can someone please help
[12:53] <moshe> there are no breezy backports yet
[12:53] <_jeremy> ok
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: hdc is always master. no mater which drive is where
[12:53] <_jeremy> what about codecs ?
[12:54] <moshe> dunno
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> multiverse
[12:54] <paines> _jeremy, install libmad0 for mp3
[12:54] <moshe> I'm not experiencing that problem.
[12:54] <_jeremy> I can't play wmv or dvd
[12:54] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, but maybe the cable is defect
[12:54] <moshe> could be your symlinks are screwed up for dvd
[12:55] <moshe> Kamping_Kaiser, do you have any idea how I can fix this?
[12:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: could be. if you pull hte device closer to the motherboard out of the cable does the last one show?
[12:55] <_jeremy> my symlinks ?
[12:56] <_jeremy> man I just want it to work...
[12:56] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: i can`t understand what you mean
[12:56] <moshe> it could be that your dvd playing program is looking for /dev/dvd and it's not pointing to the correct device
[12:56] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: are you german?
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: you have 2 cdrom drives on teh ide cable
[12:56] <aftertaf> looool
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: i dont speak it well enough to help in it
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb aftertaf
[12:56] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: yes 2 drives
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you pull one off, is the otherone there still?
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> do they both show in bios?
[12:57] <gath> yes both in the bios
[12:57] <aftertaf> hehe
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: if they both show in bios then its software issues, and i dont think i can help you with them anymore :( im pretty much out of ideas
[12:58] <gath> so ok, but thank you
[12:59] <moshe> sigh
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry  gath :(
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> moshe: ask aftertaf
[12:59] <aftertaf> loool
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> hes the guru :P
[12:59] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: i think you`re right, its a software problem, `cause it runs under Win and under Kanotix
[12:59] <moshe> ?
[12:59] <moshe> aftertaf, you know about my problem?
[01:00] <aftertaf> moshe:  just scrolled to see...
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> gath: im not a kde person, so i dont know what could cause it, even though it sounds like its a lower level issue then kde
[01:00] <moshe> it's happening in more than kde
[01:00] <moshe> it's happening in every X login I have
[01:00] <moshe> gnome, xfce, blackbox, windowmaker
[01:00] <aftertaf> moshe:  poaste your xorg.conf to a pastebin and ask in #ubuntu.  we're just here to try and look cool, and when we don't know we bounce to each other, like KK just did
[01:01] <aftertaf> :P Kamping_Kaiser :)
[01:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: :D so you picked it :P
[01:02] <aftertaf> hehe
[01:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> moshe will not be happy ;)
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: you got jabber account?
[01:04] <aftertaf> yep.... :)
[01:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool :)
[01:06] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[01:10] <aftertaf> :)
[01:10] <aftertaf> evildom
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:14] <verden01> hey can anyone tell me if theres much difference between hoary and breezy?
[01:14] <aftertaf> much difference
[01:14] <aftertaf> bluetooth support, newer WM versions.....
[01:15] <aftertaf> etc...
[01:15] <verden01> can we get java and flash out of the box yet
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, never
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> java is in mulitverse (about 22m)
[01:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure about flash
[01:15] <Tm_T> mulletverse
[01:16] <verden01> can i install java in x64 version?
[01:16] <aftertaf> lool
[01:16] <aftertaf> go flash go
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol hi Tm_T
[01:16] <aftertaf> :D
[01:16] <aftertaf> mulletverse LMAO
[01:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> verden01: yes, but its not easy afaik
[01:16] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: terve
[01:20] <azertyuuu> hi all, how can i change the resolution in kubuntu , i downloaded the nvidiadrivers with Adept, but still can't go higher than 1024*786
[01:20] <asraniel> hi, i have a AMD 2400+, should i install the 686 kernel or the k7?
[01:21] <aftertaf> if both card and monitor can handle it, azertyuuu run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and   choose the resolutions you want available.
[01:21] <aftertaf> amd=k7     686 = intel
[01:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> asraniel: k7
[01:21] <aftertaf> asraniel:  k? :)
[01:21] <aftertaf> 7*
[01:21] <asraniel> thanks
[01:21] <azertyuuu> aftertaf, i can do it in windows
[01:22] <aftertaf> azertyuuu:  well done to you then. ;)     run the dpkg command
[01:22] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:23] <azertyuuu> bus identifier ??
[01:23] <aftertaf> leave blank
[01:23] <azertyuuu> where can i find it
[01:23] <aftertaf> it will autofind
[01:24] <azertyuuu> use the framebuffer-interface, yes or not ?
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> doesnt matter
[01:26] <aftertaf> azertyuuu:  leave all as default, till you get to resolution. then choose 24bit and 1200xsth
[01:26] <azertyuuu> ok
[01:26] <aftertaf> i'm off for a !cigarette
[01:26] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[01:26] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> i always use 16 bit :P
[01:26] <azertyuuu> thanks
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. aftertaf, you love doing that
[01:26] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  treue, no need for 24 bit (cough)
[01:26] <aftertaf> hehe
[01:26] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  and i cranked gaim up yjust for you :)
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> you on jabber aftertaf?
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> actualy, talk after ;)
[01:28] <aftertaf> googletalk & icq & m$EVILn
[01:28] <NeedHelp> Hi, a firend has talked me about superkaramba, i have kubuntu 5.10 an he sayed me thath is included in the installation, where is it?
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> icq isnt that bad, its just not good
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> NeedHelp: try searching the repos
[01:29] <aftertaf> lol true
[01:29] <NeedHelp> :Kamping_kaiser where is the repos?
[01:29] <aftertaf> stillnot gone for that fag, :/
[01:29] <NeedHelp> :kamping_kaiser and what's it? XD
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> kaiser@MillenniumFalcon:~$ apt-cache show superkaramba |grep File
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> Filename: pool/universe/s/superkaramba/superkaramba_0.36-1ubuntu2_i386.de
[01:30] <aftertaf> NeedHelp:  adept
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> NeedHelp: its in universe
[01:30] <aftertaf> NeedHelp:  its eyecandy and 50 different processor temperature applets
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:30] <NeedHelp> ehm..
[01:30] <NeedHelp> so what must i do? lol XD
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> NeedHelp: you need to change your sources list to enable universe
[01:31] <NeedHelp> I DID
[01:31] <NeedHelp> and then?
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-get update , then apt-get install
[01:33] <NeedHelp> i'll do
[01:34] <NeedHelp> :Kamping_Kaiser a friend has given me him sources.list, where can i overwrite it?
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> the sources list is in /etc/apt/
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> in there is the file called sources.list
[01:37] <maaad> hi! i can mount the others ntfs partitions at kubuntu?
[01:37] <NeedHelp> Hey kamping
[01:37] <NeedHelp> He says me i don't have the permission
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> maaad: read only
[01:37] <NeedHelp> howto?
[01:38] <maaad> mandriva mounts all
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> NeedHelp: so this "sudo cp ~/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list" asuming you have your mates soruces list in your home dir
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> !ntfs
[01:38] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:38] <NeedHelp> thx
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> and yes, i know mandriva mounts tehm by default
[01:39] <maaad> thanks ubotu
[01:39] <Hobbsee> hello again Kamping_Kaiser :)
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee :)
[01:39] <Hobbsee> :) went and had dinner
[01:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> went out? or just went?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> saw that people had already been making good use of their study time, and have been burning their study notes/booklets
[01:40] <Hobbsee> just went
[01:40] <Hobbsee> http://community.boredofstudies.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11132
[01:40] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:40] <Hobbsee> might take a while to load, there are plenty of people there
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> i wont click that, because i dont want to open a browser if i can avoid it :|
[01:42] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: bah..how borign!
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. thats classic
[01:43] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah, i thought so!
[01:43] <Hobbsee> did you get to see the image then?  presumably not
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> i did, it opened with image magic
[01:44] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:45] <maaad> ok, its done
[01:45] <maaad> thanks ubotu
[01:45] <Hobbsee> that booklet deserves to be burned...along with the syllabus
[01:45] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[01:45] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on this channel! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my databanks on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: have you been to newzealand?
[01:50] <paelscrit> anyone have problems wit the system settings window on 5.10?
[01:50] <Riddell> paelscrit: what's the problem?
[01:50] <paelscrit> like it wont expand all the way
[01:51] <paelscrit> if you hit the expand on the tite bar you can see the icons for the system setting underneath
[01:51] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: nope, that'd be fun though
[01:51] <paelscrit> and buttons are cut off
[01:51] <gath> re
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: linuxconf au 2k6 is in duneden
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> im going :D:D:D
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbs.
[01:51] <Hobbsee> ooh fun!k
[01:51] <paelscrit> i reinstalled and the problem persists, its the only problem i notice
[01:51] <gath> Kamping_Kaiser: now my both drives works
[01:52] <NeedHelp> hey, How to use the software KARAMBA?
[01:53] <NeedHelp> *superkaramba sorry
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> back
[02:06] <jeroenvrp> I have an old KDE problem coming back
[02:07] <inc|freaky> hi all, i got a problem: http://www.freakyy.de/docs/apt-get.txt can any1 help me?
[02:07] <jeroenvrp> please see: http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=760.0
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> inc|freaky: have you run apt-get -f install?
[02:10] <inc|freaky> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> inc|freaky: do you have universe enabled?
[02:11] <inc|freaky> yes
[02:11] <inc|freaky> i have kde3.5beta1
[02:11] <inc|freaky> in my sources.list
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> the mirror might not be complete
[02:16] <jeroenvrp>  View Profile Personal Message (Online)
[02:16] <jeroenvrp>   Re: Kdesktop_lock won't unlock
[02:16] <jeroenvrp>   Reply #3 on: Today at 07:15:59 AM Reply with quote   Modify message Remove message
[02:16] <jeroenvrp>    Some extra info from the log-files:
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[02:16] <jeroenvrp> (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=1000 tty=:0 ruser= rhost=  user=jeroen
[02:16] <jeroenvrp> Authentication failure for jeroen (invoked by uid 1000)
[02:16] <jeroenvrp> check pass; user unknown
[02:16] <jeroenvrp> sorry for thay
[02:16] <jeroenvrp> only the last 3 lines were needed
[02:16] <xuniL_> jeroenvrp dont post in here
[02:20] <particles> there were more earthquakes
[02:20] <particles> in turkey
[02:20] <Phantom^^> hey is there anyone else here having problems with breezy and usb devices like cameras and mobile phones ?
[02:21] <dorkiaa> When I put my mouse over an element in Kmenu, the element goes blank
[02:22] <dorkiaa> for example, instead of "System", i get "             "
[02:22] <Phantom^^> is hoary i was able to plug my phone in via usb and it saw it straight away but now i get an error message
[02:22] <dorkiaa> I have GeForce 6200
[02:26] <jeroenvrp> solved
[02:31] <jeroenvrp> next problem
[02:32] <yee> how to lunch openQ?
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> how to activate katapult
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> ?
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> I can run it, but no alt+space
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> no systray-icon
[02:32] <yee> yes
[02:33] <yee> i can't find it
[02:33] <yee> but i'm sure i have installed it
[02:34] <yee> is any one here?
[02:36] <chimaera> hi..
[02:37] <chimaera> regarding the gpg-issues, is this due to missing backend support in libgpgme?
[02:37] <aftertaf> yes yee :)
[02:37] <aftertaf> hi chimaera
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb aftertaf
[02:38] <chimaera> aftertaf: is the yes related to my question?
[02:38] <yee> may i ask you a question about openq?
[02:38] <chimaera> ah, sorry..
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> yee what is it?
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> chimaera: im not sure. i think Riddell has a better idea
[02:41] <Riddell> chimaera: it's a missing build-dep
[02:41] <chimaera> Riddell: i see. any workarounds so far? otherwise i might try the sid package..
[02:42] <Riddell> I have a fix, it's waiting on review before being uploaded, should be in by the end of the day with any luck
[02:42] <chimaera> on a sidenote, what happened to the konqi-profiles in kd3.4.3?
[02:42] <chimaera> Riddell: great to hear.
[02:42] <Riddell> I changed it to a simpler profile, see FAQ for how to reverse
[02:43] <ubuntu> hi
[02:43] <DexterF> hi
[02:43] <chimaera> heh, i see. coming from debian, i'm not use d to distro-specific mods to my DE ;)
[02:44] <BitNik> german ?
[02:44] <chimaera> Riddell: ok, since you seem to be somewhat involved, any updates on the hal issue, too?
[02:44] <DexterF> fonts.conf question: i'D like to enable bitmap fonts. now in /etc/fonts/conf.d there are some files and a symlink
[02:44] <DexterF> I guess relinking is not the way to do it?
[02:44] <chimaera> BitNik: that too, but i was refering to Desktop Environment
[02:46] <aftertaf> what's fixed by later today?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> gpg
[02:46] <aftertaf> oki ;)
[02:47] <Riddell> chimaera: yes, also pending review for upload
[02:49] <chimaera> Riddell: the kudos kubuntu faq (profiles)?
[02:53] <Riddell> kubuntu.org/faq.php
[02:53] <Riddell> chimaera: ^^
[02:54] <chimaera> Riddell: ah, thanks. i just followed the link in the topic of this channel..
[03:05] <freemanen> How do get rdp to work on kubuntu linux?
[03:06] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install  rdesktop
[03:06] <aftertaf> and man rdesktop
[03:07] <aftertaf> gives you config help, very clear
[03:07] <Chameleon22> howdy all
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey mate :)
[03:08] <freemanen> thanks
[03:08] <Chameleon22> i am trying to mount a usb key, works fine ... visible from console (/media/sdb) but  i also get an error "The file or folder media:/sdb does not exist." when konqueror trys to open the directory. Any idea how I would change the path to media:/sdb to point to correct directory ?
[03:08] <freemanen> what is the diffrent beetween krdc and rdesktop?
[03:11] <ep> I can't play music CD's.   I don't know if the audio cable from the CD is directly connected to the sound card or not.  How do you test this?
[03:12] <ep> At any rate, I can play CD's in Windows so I know its possible :)
[03:12] <yo2lux> anyone use kubuntu on 800x600 ?
[03:13] <DexterF> do I lack voice, is my question too far out or too simple to be worthy answering?
[03:14] <Chameleon22> DexterF, what was the question?
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> DexterF: just reading up, i can only imagine trying dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or fonts
[03:14] <Pixels-> has anyone else had ubuntu/kubuntu recognize the harddrive size wrong?
[03:14] <ep> Sound is working.  Any tips to get KsCD to play music CDs?
[03:14] <Chameleon22> Pixels-, not me
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chameleon22: sorry, got no idea about your problem. checked perms?
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Pixels-: "wrong"?
[03:14] <Chameleon22> Kamping_Kaiser, ye all looks good
[03:15] <Pixels-> my harddrive is 25 gigs
[03:15] <Pixels-> it says 30 in the installer
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 bad
[03:15] <Chameleon22> Pixels-, what does it say on the hdd itself ? is hdd formated?
[03:15] <Pixels-> so the partition size gets screwed and non of the partitions boot afterwards
[03:15] <Pixels-> Chameleon22: it works fine in other deb* distro's
[03:15] <Chameleon22> Pixels-, *shrugs
[03:16] <Pixels-> mepis/debian/knoppix
[03:16] <Pixels-> i goggled the problem, didnt find any info
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> Pixels-: sounds like an installer bug
[03:16] <Pixels-> even checked ubuntu/kubuntu forums/wiki's
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> can you report it to the devs?
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> #ubuntu-bugs
[03:16] <Pixels-> yeah, ill bug it
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> and or bugzilla
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks  :)
[03:16] <Pixels-> yeah, ill use bugzilla
[03:16] <Pixels-> it just seems like I get one problem after another
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> :( bugger
[03:17] <freemanen> is it possible to connect to your own linux computer with rdp?
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> freemanen: it should just be a server and a client. just like X
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik
[03:19] <aftertaf> freemanen:  rdp = remote desktop protocol == terminal server
[03:20] <aftertaf> so i dont think it will work, not same protocol
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> aftertaf: any time you have a server+client, you can do it on the same box.
[03:21] <aftertaf> is there a rdp server for linux?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shrug*
[03:21] <Pixels-> gah im in windows right now
[03:21] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:21] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[03:21] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[03:21] <Pixels-> i feel like im cheating on linux
[03:21] <Pixels-> like we are married
[03:21] <aftertaf> lol Pixels-
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:22] <Pixels-> and im going out with her second cousin or something
[03:22] <Pixels-> and not even a pretty second cousin
[03:22] <Pixels-> the second cousin the rest of the family avoids, due to inbreeding
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:22] <Pixels-> windows is the daughter of two first cousins.
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont think its a second cousin, they arnt that close, its your sons ex or something ;)
[03:23] <Pixels-> lol
[03:23] <Pixels-> mom's cousins daughters third ex-husbands uncles neice ?
[03:24] <freemanen> what is the best way to connect to a linux computer
[03:24] <Pixels-> freemanen: in linux or windows?
[03:24] <Pixels-> in windows, using a telnet client with ssh
[03:24] <Pixels-> if you are using linux to connect to another linux client, just use the shell
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'connect'?
[03:24] <Pixels-> and make sure you can utilize the ssh protocol
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> ie ssh. (server needs installing)
[03:25] <Pixels-> im like a linux guru
[03:25] <Pixels-> that cant get linux to run.
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> how long have you been using linux?
[03:25] <Pixels-> well, I can get it to run, but im tired of doing a deb net install.
[03:25] <Pixels-> a little over a month.
[03:25] <Pixels-> :)
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> i love net installs :)
[03:26] <Pixels-> yeah, i run debian sid.
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have a proxy, so that may help me ;D
[03:26] <Pixels-> only way to get a nice clean sid install
[03:26] <Pixels-> as dist-upgrades are horrible.
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> i run ubuntu unstable (whatever it is at the time)
[03:26] <Pixels-> unstable is my motto.
[03:26] <Pixels-> its how I live my life.
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. yeh, its how i run my OS's
[03:26] <Pixels-> i fixed one problem, then now my mouse doesnt work in 2.6 kernels
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> i moved from windows to ubuntu unstable ;)
[03:26] <freemanen> I have a computer without a screen and want to connect to it
[03:27] <Pixels-> i know the reason, just hard to get it fixed during an install.
[03:27] <freemanen> it has kubuntu
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> freemanen: ssh
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need to install it though
[03:27] <Pixels-> as you need to modprobe psmouse or insmod psmouse
[03:27] <freemanen> but i can't get x to work
[03:27] <Pixels-> and then edit the /etc/rc.d/rc.modules file
[03:27] <Pixels-> freemanen: does X give an error?
[03:27] <Pixels-> or does it load, and blackscreen.
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> freemanen: then sit down at teh box after pluging in a screen
[03:28] <Pixels-> freeman, this is why you always want to keep an old junky monitor around
[03:28] <Pixels-> even one with monocrome graphics.
[03:28] <freemanen> It says that in cant open it
[03:29] <Pixels-> or hercules.
[03:29] <Pixels-> :)
[03:29] <DexterF> ok. I just wanted to reinstall fontconfig with adept. since there was no button there for "reinstall" I thought "well, remove and install again"
[03:29] <DexterF> turned out as a bad idea - adept started killing everything related to fontconfig. I paniced and killed it. now the system is in a somewhat undefined state.
[03:30] <DexterF> ideas?
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> DexterF: apt-get -f install
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo apt-get -f install
[03:30] <DexterF> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[03:31] <DexterF> don't see anything package related. adept is gone. dpkg is not active anywhere
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> DexterF: does "ps aux |grep adept" give you more then one hit?
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> or switch the adept to dpkg
[03:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> and try that as well
[03:31] <DexterF> oh, indeed
[03:32] <DexterF> kill those?
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> then try fixing the install again :)
[03:33] <DexterF> already at it
[03:34] <DexterF> ok.. looks like we're back to normal... thanks
[03:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool :)
[03:37] <DexterF> my first steps on a debian based dist. been using slackware for.. 3 or 4 years
[03:37] <DexterF> you hack almost everything manually there, this is all different
[03:37] <chimaera> anyoni have issues with my usb wifi adapter (zd1211). when i plug in the device, the module gets loaded, but it seems there's no device created.
[03:38] <chimaera> s/anyoni/i/
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> DexterF: at least you understand the concepts. makes explaing stuff way easer :D
[03:39] <ximon> hello, can anyone help with kubuntu breezy fresh install sudo not working, returns exit code 141
[03:39] <dorkiaa> When I put my mouse over an element in KMenu, the element goes balnk
[03:39] <ximon> my user password and my root password both work fine, but kdesu and sudo do not
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> dorkiaa: try rebooting
[03:39] <dorkiaa> for example, instead of "System" i get "               "
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ximon: so you set a root password?
[03:40] <dorkiaa> And then, the computer stuck
[03:40] <ximon> kamping_kaiser: yep, during install
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ximon: so your user password? or did you do a special install?
[03:41] <ximon> i did an expert install
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah ok
[03:41] <ximon> long story, but don't think i did anything odd during expert install that should cause this problem
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> ximon: i think because of the patches made to gksudo etc break using the  root password, but im not entirely sure
[03:42] <ximon> i cannot run adept since sudo is not working, i have tried googling and checking launchpad, kubuntu breezy known bugs etc
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> does sudo in a terminal work?
[03:42] <ximon> nope
[03:42] <ximon> sudo adept ; echo $? prints 141
[03:42] <ximon> same for sudo anything else
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> does su?
[03:43] <ximon> su works
[03:43] <Riddell> don't use sudo with KDE programs!
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> so if you su root and check the sudoers file, is teh %admin group there?
[03:43] <ximon> sudo does ask for my password the first time, then exits without a message and sets $? to 141
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, thats a point
[03:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> Riddell:
[03:43] <ximon> i don't believe there is, but checking again
[03:43] <dorkiaa> Riddell, Why not?
[03:43] <Riddell> dorkiaa: it breaks things is mysterious ways
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> dorkiaa: badstuff happens
[03:44] <Riddell> use kdesu
[03:44] <ximon> nope, just Defaults and root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ximon: thats why sudo isn working then :|
[03:44] <dorkiaa> like "kdesu ln -s /bla /bla"?
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> dorkiaa: for example using (iirc) 'sudo k3b' was stopping ppl log in
[03:44] <Riddell> sudo for command line stuff, kdesu for kde stuff
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, kdesu adept, and sudo apt-get
[03:45] <ximon> kamping_kaiser: any idea what i need in the file?
[03:46] <ximon> sounds like this is a bug, kdesu adept should not run into a 141 problem out of the box
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> ximon: on a standard instal, there is a
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> line
[03:47] <ximon> ta
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> and the first (and at your discresion) subsequent users are in the admin group
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> gpasswd -a admin $username
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[03:47] <ximon> understood