[10:45] <ubotu> meal3837: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:45] <riotkittie> [Wiebel] : as far as i know... no.
[10:45] <mojo_> ademan:  fglrx.ko -> ./fglrx.2.6.17-10-386.ko
[10:45] <[Wiebel] > hmmm
[10:46] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : no
[10:46] <[Wiebel] > is there a way to downgrade then?
[10:46] <ademan> mojo_: hrm, and you installed with ATI's installer? did you generate debs? or just install it?
[10:46] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : reinstall
[10:46] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: remote
[10:46] <mojo_> ademan: do you have a fglrx.something.ko in /lib/modules/ ?
[10:46] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : what's wrong with edgy?
[10:46] <mojo_> ademan: i just installed it
[10:46] <adamonline45> meal3837: But really, I know it sounds silly, but there's no linear way to learn linux.  You have to get in over your head, and suddenly the stuff you don't get makes sense, once you try to apply it to even more involved stuff...
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: I have some issues with my graphics cards + DRI
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > sinds edgy
[10:47] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : on a remote box?
[10:47] <mojo_> meal3837: adamonline45 is right but linux you have peole all around to help guide you, like this IRC channel... it is VERY newbie friendly
[10:47] <ademan> mojo_: nope there's nothing in /lib/modules, except for the 2.6.17-10-generic directory
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: No I am remote now ;)
[10:47] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : which vid card?
[10:47] <adamonline45> mojo_: I agree, sadly, d00d left =)
[10:47] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: Don't wanna wait untill I'm home :)
[10:48] <mojo_> adamonline45: ah well
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > 01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)
[10:48] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, Do you know who wrote that article?
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > playing video/divx/dvd's is not going 100% either, rendering is just a little to slow
[10:48] <[Wiebel] > while cpu usage is way < 100%
[10:48] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, Did you read the replies to that article?
[10:48] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : yeh dunno, maybe try a newer driver
[10:49] <[Wiebel] > frogzoo: like not xorg's own driver?
[10:49] <adamonline45> thttpd experience in deb/ubuntu; anyone?
[10:49] <frogzoo> [Wiebel] : like compile a later version if you can find one, or a deb if someone's already done it
[10:49] <mneptok> adamonline45: i run it here.
[10:49] <mojo_> ademan: if i remember i didn't get the debs to work so i did the ati installer script
[10:49] <pavs_sleep> ofcourse, read the seventh reply. it expresses exactly my sentiment
[10:50] <cikas> what should i do to install dapper?
[10:50] <mneptok> adamonline45: but on NetBSD/m68k
[10:50] <mozhuang> hi
[10:50] <zbadone> big problems!, somehow my Ubuntu server is screwed up, cant do an upgrade, something bout /usr/lib/perl/POSIX.pm missing
[10:50] <frogzoo> cikas: d/l & burn the cd & boot from it
[10:50] <cikas> can anybody help me?
[10:50] <mojo_> ademan: ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run is what i ran
[10:50] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, You're picking one reply out of the bunch to justify violating common sense?
[10:50] <pavs_sleep> you still didnt read the reply
[10:50] <ademan> mojo_: alright, well i'm compiling the kernel module myself just because i can... hehe
[10:50] <adamonline45> mneptok: Ahh, gotcha... the repositories are way out of date, so I want to compile the binaries to run on ubuntu server 6.06...  I'm just lost, it's my first compile...
[10:51] <zbadone> can I use a server cd to RESCUE the server without over writing my config file?
[10:51] <cikas> frogzoo i d/l&burn and when i want to install the icons from live cd are huge
[10:51] <Toge> hello. how can I see a DVD film with menus? totem plays .vob only
[10:51] <ademan> mojo_: hey where did those two symbolic links point to?
[10:51] <pavs_sleep> Linux is all about knowing and letting others know. Its not about hiding the little black boxes from kids who dont know how to play with them.
[10:51] <pavs_sleep> Logging in as root has several advantages.
[10:51] <mojo_> ademan: you go then
[10:51] <frogzoo> Toge: gxine ?
[10:52] <mneptok> adamonline45: do you have build-essential istalled?
[10:52] <mojo_> ademan: um, let me see
[10:52] <frogzoo> !fixres | cikas
[10:52] <ubotu> cikas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:52] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: i know of no distinct advantages other than convenience
[10:53] <adamonline45> mneptok: yes, I do.  I got all the dependencies: g++, linux-kernel-headers, libc6-dev, build-essential, gcc...
[10:53] <cikas> hey
[10:53] <zbadone> can I use a Ubuntu server cd to rescue a messed up server, without over writing my config file and other important file?
[10:53] <cikas> i want to install now and i can not see the butons
[10:53] <cikas> i am on  a live cd
[10:54] <mojo_> ademan: in /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/  there are two links...
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[10:54] <mojo_> ademan: 1) fglrx.ko -> 2.6.x/fglrx.ko    and 2) libfglrx_ip.a -> libfglrx_ip.a.GCC4
[10:54] <[Wiebel] >   libxxf86vm-dev: Depends: libxxf86vm1 (= 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu3) but 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > root@insomnia:~# dpkg -l |grep libxxf86vm1
[10:54] <[Wiebel] > ii  libxxf86vm1                            1.0.1-0ubuntu1                       X11 XFree86 video mode extension library
[10:55] <[Wiebel] > I don't get it :)
[10:55] <frogzoo> cikas: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  - should get the screen usable
[10:55] <ademan> mojo_: alright well *.a files are static libraries so that shouldn't be a problem, that'd be for compilation only
[10:55] <mojo_> ademan: and there is one in /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko -> ./fglrx.2.6.17-10-386.ko
[10:55] <pavs_sleep> I only reason I wanted to do know this because I didnt know how to do it. There is nothing wrong with knowing how to do it. Whether I use this knowledge sensible is my choice to make. Like windows I shouldnt be told what application I should use to watch movies, view pictures by default. Isnt that the whole point of linux? having choices. learning something new you didnt know?
[10:55] <adamonline45> mneptok: It's just the parameters for running ./configure that I get stuck on.  There's a list of paths to assign to directories, and I know a few of them don't exist on my end...  I just don't know what each option's purpose is, so i'm lost as to where to assign them...
[10:56] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, I have been using Ubuntu since Warty, on 11 computers.. I have set up numerous friends' computers and servers with Ubuntu. I still manage several of those. I have, to this day, never needed to log in as root (neither in a gdm session nor terminal).. I only use sudo and I don't see the need to log in as root. But, of course, it's your computer, you can do what you want with it.
[10:56] <mojo_> ademan: that last one is your bby, cuz i am on 2.6.17-10-386 kernel and i WUZ on 2.6.15 when i had done my last install of the ati drivers
[10:56] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: you have the choice to stick a gun in your mouth asd pull the trigger, too. doesn't mean we have to help you learn to load a gun.
[10:56] <mojo_> ademan: bby = your baby
[10:56] <ademan> haha
[10:57] <ardchoille42> mneptok, Good analogy
[10:57] <pavs_sleep> learning to log in as root is not equal to shooting yourself. now you are just stretching it.
[10:57] <frogzoo> pavs_sleep: you'll find what you're looking for on google - but advertising that kind of stuff in a support channel just creates unnecessary work
[10:57] <Polibio> nas
[10:57] <mojo_> ademan: so you got a fglrx.something.ko in /lib/modules now that you did the compile with the proper headers installed?
[10:57] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: logging in as root is disabled, discouraged, and not something you're likely to find help with.
[10:58] <adamonline45> mneptok: Do you have any suggestions about ./configure -parameters, or were you just saying you run thttpd? :D
[10:58] <cikas> frogzoo : debconf:is locked by another process
[10:58] <mneptok> adamonline45: i run it on NetBSD, where i installed it via pkgsrc
[10:58] <ademan> mojo_: naw it all just dumped into the director i compiled in, but i'm moving around fglrx.ko to see where it works
[10:59] <pavs_sleep> OK, I am not asking about it anymore. I already know it. but it feels like there is an unwritten law to eve talk about it?
[10:59] <brainly-green> nothing in my preferences menu works--if I click on one of those items it starts a gray window with no widgets or options, and I have to force close it
[10:59] <mojo_> ademan: you doing your own manual compiles, huh?  fancy you... ;)
[10:59] <frogzoo> cikas: close synaptic
[10:59] <adamonline45> mneptok: Yeah, it was made for netbsd anyway =P  Well, I'm sure someone, somewhere, has documented their setup on ubuntu/deb... thanks anyway :)
[10:59] <ademan> mojo_: haha, only fancy if it works
[10:59] <cikas> i am from a live cd
[11:00] <cikas> i am not in synaptic
[11:00] <mojo_> ademan: well unless you fancy slow framerates, lol
[11:00] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: discussion of enabling features that we deliberately disable on a channel with new users is not a good idea, no.
[11:00] <ardchoille42> pavs_sleep, One of the things is this: You have a root account, if I want to break into your box, the root account is where I'd start. I can sit here all day and brute force my way in. I can't do that if the root account is disabled. And, I can't break into the user accounts because I don't know the usernames.
[11:00] <ademan> mojo_: yeah i guess i better learn to like it:-) cause it didn't work, and i'm rather frustrated tonight, i figure i'll pick it up tomorow, thanks a ton for the help though
[11:01] <brainly-green> you could brute force the usernames
[11:01] <mojo_> Ademan_sleep: I think you may have a lead, yah... good luck and good night
[11:01] <riotkittie> uh
[11:01] <frogzoo> brainly-green: not in this lifetime
[11:01] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, Do you have any idea how many centuries that would take?
[11:01] <riotkittie> brute forcing the user names is a heck of a lot more difficult than brute forcing root
[11:01] <brainly-green> wellw hat if it's a company system for example
[11:01] <brainly-green> where the usernames are all known
[11:02] <brainly-green> I know everyone else's username at my university
[11:02] <adamonline45> Right, you have to guess the username and then the password...
[11:02] <adamonline45> and even then, you'd still not have root access...
[11:02] <brainly-green> but you could sudo
[11:02] <brainly-green> couldn't you
[11:02] <frogzoo> brainly-green: universities will have checks against brute force
[11:02] <ardchoille42> But, if the root account is enabled, it's just that much easier to hack into.
[11:02] <NoEvidenZ> my hdd crapped out
[11:02] <riotkittie> who's to say any of those known accounts have sudo rights
[11:02] <ardchoille42> riotkittie, Good point
[11:03] <fateminasab> I installed x-moto and i can play it with no problem but when i tried to quit the game my computer crashed. What is the problem?(Sorry for my english)
[11:03] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: you see that article (ws on DIGG) where someone with WINE downloaded an exe and ran it, and it was one of those spyware trojans?  it put a icon in his notification area that said his registry needed updating, and it opened a port.
[11:03] <pavs_sleep> I dont think my computer is interesting enough for you or anyone to break into. This is something that sys admins should worry about not newbies. newbes are here (like myself) to learn. and I believe the best way to learn is by knowing how things work in practice. By trial and error. Not by someone telling you not to do it because it MIGHT be bad. Thats something I would like to learn from my experience along the way.
[11:03] <NoEvidenZ> riotkittie: My Ubuntu drive crapped itself. =[
[11:03] <brainly-green> yeah we're not
[11:03] <jatt> hmmm nautilus is really a memory hog. Before I uninstalled it my memory always showed 5MB free memory, and without nautilus I see now:
[11:03] <jatt> Mem:    515880k total,   492212k used,    23668k free,     3776k buffers
[11:03] <brainly-green> you could still cause damage though
[11:03] <adamonline45> yes, you cuold sudo... but there's a difference between you hacking into someone at your universities computer, and the other millions of computer users out there...  You must be from the US to have such an introspective approach regarding people outside your field of vision ;)
[11:03] <jatt> 23MB!
[11:04] <riotkittie> pavs_sleep: trial and error AS ROOT ... and linux newbies ... do not mix
[11:04] <frogzoo> pavs_sleep: so learn to use google to find out what you need
[11:04] <mneptok> pavs_sleep: ever flown a plane? a lot of people will tell you it's a bad idea to point it at the ground. but hell! what do they know?! GO FOR IT!
[11:04] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: Even linux folk may download and run something some day w/o being sure of it's source... granted with linux there are many reputable sources but still.. it is possible.  torjans are a social hack.  non-root is a good measure for a default build that is friendly to linux newbies
[11:04] <adamonline45> If you know someone's name, anyway, you should know them well enough not to try and break into their system...
[11:05] <PORDO> gnash: Date.cpp:374: void gnash::date_getdate(const gnash::fn_call&): Assertion `fn.nargs == 0' failed. <-- ??
[11:05] <brainly-green> there are hundreds of people whose usernames I can get at my university
[11:05] <brainly-green> maybe thousands
[11:05] <brainly-green> all public domain
[11:05] <ardchoille42> brainly-green, I'll bet none of them are in suders
[11:05] <grompf> Hi,I have a problem trying to configure my laptop to use an external mouse.I'm trying to change the speed of the mouse but changes on gnome or kde mouse settings only seem to affect the touchpad.How can i solve this?
[11:05] <pavs_sleep> just because its a bad idea doesnt mean no one should know how it works.
[11:05] <adamonline45> Also, yes, weren't you asking about running root in...  gnome? Nautilus?
[11:06] <pavs_sleep> yes
[11:06] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: oh i agree... linux is about choice.  if you are ready to use a root login that is your choice.
[11:06] <adamonline45> grompf: could maybe a thrid-party driver work?
[11:06] <riotkittie> pavs_sleep: if you insist on knowing how root works, there are many other distros out there with root enabled
[11:06] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: all you have to do is set a password for root, i don't think much else?  i am not 100% sure but there are articles out there for those who want to
[11:07] <riotkittie> or you can find out how to unlock the account and do it yourself but nobody in here is going to tell you how, and you should stop - for lack of a better term, and i am not trying to be rude - whining about it
[11:07] <pavs_sleep> I ahve used 4 other distro, all of them has root enabled by default. Thats why i was curious to find out how its done in ubuntu
[11:07] <jhaig> To switch to root, you can do 'sudo su -'.  Alternatively, set the root password, as mojo_ said.
[11:07] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: or you can sudo -s to change to a root login in a shell
[11:08] <brainly-green> my ubuntu computer is not shutting down
[11:08] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: there is also gksudo that you can use to set up launchers to run programs as root in the GUI... they will prompt for root passwd..
[11:08] <grompf> adamonline45: I don't have a third party driver.What do you mean?I've tried to add the external mouse as a corepointer in Xorg.conf but didn't make any difference
[11:08] <PORDO> brainly-green go to a terminal and type sudo shutdown -h now
[11:08] <brainly-green> it's got a pointer and the desktop image
[11:08] <brainly-green> I have no terminal
[11:08] <adamonline45> sudo passwd root; <enter a password> (do once) ; su <enter password> (forever... and the haxors... too...)
[11:08] <brainly-green> it has a mouse cursor and the wallpaper picture
[11:08] <PORDO> i need a way to record the audio from a flash thing.
[11:09] <brainly-green> It's been like that for 5 mins maybe
[11:09] <PORDO> grash crashes
[11:09] <pavs_sleep> anyways. thanks for all your help. g night. now I really have to go to sleep
[11:09] <riotkittie> brainly-green: alt + ctrl + fkey
[11:09] <mojo_> pavs_sleep: yeah, be well rested when you run commands as root!  peace
[11:09] <Lynoure> PORDO: once or more often? And with what quality? I'd simply do it with a microphone for one-off thing :)
[11:10] <Lynoure> (if the quality does not need to be perfect)
[11:10] <brainly-green> thanks riotkittie
[11:10] <adamonline45> brainly-green: but type exit to exit root, when you're not using it...  And press <ctrl><alt><f7> to return to GUI...  You should know that before you venture into your vcs
[11:10] <AJIEXA> HI ALL!!! PLZ help me. Where I must wright "iptables-restory" - in wich cfg file???  - I want to start my config of iptables every reboot system (OS Ubuntu 6.10)
[11:10] <brainly-green> what's a vcs--version control system?
[11:10] <mojo_> Lynoure: who ever said it wasn't perfect with the problems?  how do you judge happy without a little sad to gauge it by?
[11:10] <adamonline45> brainly-green: er, I mean virtual terminal
[11:11] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: I usually put my iptables script as a pre-up rule into /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <Lynoure> mojo_: What???
[11:11] <mojo_> Lynoure: life is a paradox... bitter/sweet
[11:11] <adamonline45> brainly-green: if you were to follow someone's advice on pressing <ctrl><alt><F1-6> to access a virtual terminal...
[11:11] <Lynoure> mojo_: Can you take that to some non-support channel, please
[11:12] <PORDO> Lynoure good quality as possible.
[11:12] <AJIEXA> Lynoure: really ?  - cool :) - I never work with debian\ubuntu before
[11:12] <mojo_> Lynoure: just goofing ... you said if the quality is not perfect and i read life... i am tired and off topic.  sry just poking fun
[11:12] <brainly-green> I did
[11:12] <brainly-green> and got it to shut down
[11:12] <Lynoure> mojo_: I was asking PORDO for more info.
[11:12] <brainly-green> so what's the difference between a terminal and a virtual terminal?
[11:13] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: You can also put it in etc/init.d, and "sudo rc.d scriptname"... or something like than, anyone care to append?
[11:13] <mojo_> Lynoure: peace man it's all good :)
[11:13] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: just add e.g. pre-up /etc/network/firewall
[11:13] <AJIEXA> adamonline45: i do it and i can't login after that
[11:13] <Xif> Hi. I'm getting "Error activating XKB configuration.", and some of my keys don't work.
[11:13] <brainly-green> argh
[11:14] <bunt> DCC SEND hjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsvhjmsv
[11:14] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Are you accessing remotely, ssh or telnet-like?
[11:14] <brainly-green> ok now I restarted and it's a different desktop
[11:14] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: into the interfaces and then the iptables rules into /etc/network/firewall.
[11:14] <AJIEXA> Lynoure: i must put all my cfg file or only iptables-resotore  ?
[11:14] <brainly-green> I believe it's KDE which I just installed
[11:14] <Xif> Any help?  I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu...
[11:14] <brainly-green> and also it's not a correct installation apparently
[11:14] <brainly-green> oh xmodmap
[11:14] <brainly-green> I know what that is
[11:14] <AJIEXA> adamonline45: no i access localy
[11:14] <brainly-green> I can change that
[11:14] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Are you saying you have multiple configurations, and one script to run them all?
[11:15] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: or, to choose between the differenc configurations?
[11:15] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: you can do either. I like to put the actual rules there, so that one can quickly see which rules we are supposed to have.
[11:15] <ardchoille42> That's funny. bunt did that ddc exploit and immediately got k-lined. I love Freenode :)
[11:15] <Bogaurd> Hi... I'm having some problems with beryl running under edgy
[11:16] <Bogaurd> i mean, ive enabled hardware acceleration on my card, things that use hardware acceleration seem to run really well
[11:16] <Bogaurd> but then i start beryl (which itself runs fine)
[11:16] <Xif> The full error is here: http://rafb.net/p/EISsAn88.html
[11:16] <Bogaurd> and anything else that uses hardware acceleration goes really slowly
[11:16] <AJIEXA> no no no .... I have one config file  - and save it by iptables-save .. it's working but i must every restart my system wright in console "sudo iptables-restore etc ... "
[11:16] <Xif> I have no idea what it means and how to resolve it.
[11:17] <AJIEXA> I ask because before i use mandriva and there i put it in /etc/sysconfyg/iptables
[11:17] <brainly-green> what could cause a wrong hard link count
[11:18] <brainly-green> almost every time I do a search it tells me "warning: hard link count is wrong for /proc/(somenumber)"
[11:18] <brainly-green> is that probably a hardware error
[11:18] <Bogaurd> even things like scrolling in firefox go much more slowly when beryl is open
[11:18] <Bogaurd> and video doesnt play very smoothly
[11:18] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Oh, oh, you're using the built-in way to save iptables info :)  I'm afraid I use a thrid-party script, since my firewall needs change drastically and frequently, so I can not help you... :/  I remember reading about that recently though, if I find it I'll post it here...
[11:18] <adamonline45> !iptables
[11:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:20] <Xif> (...Isn't the firewall on by default?)
[11:20] <AJIEXA> Lynoure: I not understand yet ... :)  - I must wright in "interfaces" just "iptables-restore /home/alex/iptables.save" ???
[11:21] <mah> !codecs
[11:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:21] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Read ubotu's link, about halfway down, in the section called 'configuration on startup' and that should best explain Lynoure's approach, I belive...
[11:21] <mah> Ty.
[11:21] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: no, if you use pre-up rule, I think you need to actually point to a script
[11:22] <finalbeta> I need to pass an argument to one of the kernel modules at boot time. What file do I edit?
[11:22] <adamonline45> AJIEXA: Sorry, Ubotu has many links posted right now :) Here's the one I mean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[11:22] <Lynoure> AJIEXA: in that script file you can have the restore or the rules, up to you.
[11:22] <NoEvidenZ> Who wants to donate me a super computer and an OC connection?
[11:22] <Lynoure> NoEvidenZ: Try Freecycle =)
[11:22] <TheSkorm> I will donate
[11:22] <NoEvidenZ> WIN!
[11:23] <NoEvidenZ> I know everyone here wants to be in the position that they could donate a supercomputer and an OC connection, but how many of you are? :P
[11:23] <AJIEXA> THX for all  - went to read ... I'l be soon :)
[11:23] <adamonline45> OC == optical?
[11:23] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: beowulf cluster up a bunch of old xboxes off ebay now that the christmass kiddies got their new gamesystems
[11:23] <NoEvidenZ> yeah
[11:24] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ what is your full name, credit card details, bank  card details, shipping address, signature, ip address and root password
[11:24] <adamonline45> TheSkorm: Good answer...
[11:24] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Well...
[11:24] <TheSkorm> i need to pay youm and i need to install your connection
[11:24] <adamonline45> mojo_: I was thinkin' parallel processing ;)
[11:24] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: I think you may have misunderstood the meaning of "donate". All you'd need is a shipping address. :P
[11:25] <TheSkorm> von neuman bottle neck
[11:25] <graniti> hi. if i do "sudo su", it asks me the password. But if i do "su myuser" soon after, and then again "sudo su" it doesn't ask me the password again... why? thnks
[11:25] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: I need monies! D:
[11:25] <TheSkorm> NoEvidenZ i need to donate the price for the connection
[11:25] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: that is a common theme everywhere
[11:25] <adamonline45> graniti: I believe there's a timeout implemented, where it'll save your sudo status for a bit?
[11:26] <NoEvidenZ> TheSkorm: Tape the cash to the inside of the computer. =]
[11:26] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: are you just playing games with us?   :P
[11:27] <TheSkorm> i can proberly wrap it around my toe 3 times
[11:27] <yomm> tow hare :)
[11:28] <mlabreveux> coucou
[11:28] <TheSkorm> cha
[11:28] <gfavard> HHHHooooooo
[11:28] <gfavard> fr ??
[11:28] <gfavard> serveur ?
[11:28] <Xif> How do I reinstall the X server?
[11:28] <adamonline45> graniti: Now that is a good question.  You mean to adjust the timeout?    I added a repo containing latest nVidia binary drivers, and my server won't start because of a mismatch between the driver and kernel module..
[11:30] <NoEvidenZ> =o
[11:30] <TheSkorm> ambient is really nice and easy to listen too.....
[11:30] <Hempathy> I've just given away a 19" monitor on freecycle
[11:30] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: Maybe if you'd sold it you would've had the money for gas. :P
[11:30] <Xif> Somehow the keyboard support of my X server has gone totally fubar. I can't switch languages, and I'm getting error messges.
[11:30] <graniti> adamonline45: found it: (/ect/sudoers). add this line: Defaults		!lecture,tty_tickets,timestamp_timeout=0
[11:30] <VSpike> I realise that driver is not supported here, but I'd like to go back to the ubuntu packaged driver and I can't figure out how
[11:30] <VSpike> I've tried
[11:31] <adamonline45> VSpike: Can you boot using the install cd?
[11:31] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: I have a car and do get gas money loaned to me by my brother.  I will have a job soon... it is just really tight.  I was trying to illustrate the point, not piss and moan.  I will survive anything.  I like camping ;)
[11:31] <VSpike> I've tried  #nvidia and #ubuntu-xgl but no life
[11:31] <adamonline45> graniti: Cool, I'll add that to my notepad!  thanks :)
[11:31] <VSpike> adamonline45: i'm ok into single user
[11:31] <cmt^^> how come dvd::rip stops in the middle of the ripping process, and nothing happends?
[11:31] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: that was like 2 or 3 years ago man
[11:32] <graniti> adamonline45: y w :)
[11:32] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: I'd have spent that money. I have been unemployed since November... christmas season sucks for finding tech jobs, but it is picking up.
[11:32] <VSpike> I'm just not expert enought with dpkg/apt/aptitude etc to do what I want, or understand what
[11:32] <VSpike> 's going on
[11:32] <VSpike> fscking laptop keyboard..sorry :)
[11:32] <adamonline45> VSpike: have you tried uninstalling it? Dumb Q, I know...  sudo dpkg -r <drivername>
[11:32] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: Just what do you need this computer for anyway, if I may ask?
[11:33] <adamonline45> VSpike: wait I know
[11:33] <adamonline45> VSpike: Is it the same driver, just a later version, and you want to roll back?
[11:33] <VSpike> adamonline45: yeah, exactly
[11:33] <Tarsinion1> Does anyone know how i can set a password to an archive ?
[11:33] <VSpike> adamonline45: if I remove the repo from the list, nothign happens automatically
[11:34] <VSpike> adamonline45: so I need to force a downgrade on some packages I guess
[11:34] <Xif> If anyone has any idea how to address this -> http://rafb.net/p/EISsAn88.html - please tell me. Even a radical solution like reinstalling X would be acceptable; I'm considering resintalling Ubuntu because of this.
[11:34] <DoomOver> hello
[11:34] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: The hard drive in my Ubuntu computer just crapped itself. It was shitty to begin with though. The on board graphics is faulty.. Everything's just thrown together from spare parts.
[11:34] <adamonline45> VSpike: you want the repo, I think...  that's just the place you'll find the files you're looking for... Type "dpkg -h" and look for........
[11:34] <TheSkorm> i talk in the
[11:34] <TheSkorm> standard pyrmid shape in which
[11:35] <TheSkorm> things get bigger as i say them which means it gets harder to read
[11:35] <TheSkorm> plus it means that one sentence is sperated into more than one line
[11:35] <NoEvidenZ> mojo_: I also need some sort of access point or to run wires through my house so I can have more than one computer in my room connected to the net.
[11:35] <Tarsinion1> How do i set a passwort to an archive e.g. zip file or tar.gz ?
[11:36] <ardchoille42> Xif, You got a weird keyboard or something?
[11:36] <yomm> no clue here Xif
[11:36] <adamonline45> VSpike: Dar n, where is it?  I just saw it today...  still looking...  there's something about rolling back somewhere, I swear I saw it in some earlier man readings I was doing...
[11:36] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: Find your local freecycle list, i am not kidding.  Schools also get donated junk-puters and may have more than they need, so you can rummage for parts.  Churches too sometimes.  But remember, asking for charity usually should be backed up with a reasonable need, like you need it for school or something.  Not I'm broke and can't afford a new toy, understand?
[11:36] <Xif> archangelpetro: sort of, the hardware is Logitech wireless internet pro, and I'm using a Hebrew layout in addition to the EN-US
[11:36] <mojo_> NoEvidenZ: we can talk off channel if you want me to go on.
[11:37] <TheSkorm> Tarsinion1 one choice is mash it up into a thousands peices and randomly put it into a order and remember that order, then tell the other person the order so they can unmush it.
[11:37] <TheSkorm> or read this page here http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/zip.1.html
[11:37] <cmt^^> Anyone know why dvd::rip stops in the middle of the ripping process?
[11:38] <cmt^^> and just sits there idle, while the 'Remaining:' time just keeps growing?
[11:38] <adamonline45> VSpike: Ugh, it's lost forever now :)  I'd shoot for a simple sudo apt-get remove drivername; sudo apt-get install drivername... assuming your previous version is still available....
[11:39] <Xif> archangelpetro: (oh, and one of the results of this problem is that I can't switch to Hebrew mode with Alt-Shift as I previously could.
[11:39] <ardchoille42> Xif, I would first try reconfiguring xorg with the proper keyboard specs.
[11:39] <VSpike> adamonline45: it's the dependancies which worry me
[11:40] <Xif> archangelpetro: I did, several times.
[11:40] <Xif> archangelpetro: the KB worked at the beginning (not sure what the hardware was, something generic)
[11:40] <ardchoille42> Xif, Does this problem happen on any keyboard? or just that one?
[11:41] <ardchoille42> Xif, What did you do just before this problem starting ocurring?
[11:42] <Xif> ardchoille42: played around with gconftool-2
[11:42] <AJIEXA> I do like in manuale - why i can't do this "#sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" - I have information about "pressmision denided" - why ???
[11:42] <Xif> ardchoille42: disabled some KB shortcuts.
[11:42] <VSpike> cananyone tell me what the current versions of nvidia-glx in the edgy repos is?
[11:42] <ardchoille42> Xif, And what were you chaning in gconf?
[11:42] <ardchoille42> Xif, Can you return those to what they were?
[11:43] <Xif> ardchoille42: I'm not sure how. Basically, Alt-Shift stopped working
[11:43] <ardchoille42> Xif, Sounds like you disabled it in gconf
[11:44] <Xif> ardchoille42: might have, any idea how to reinstitute it?
[11:44] <ardchoille42> Xif, Did you do this via a terminal?
[11:44] <Xif> ardchoille42: yes
[11:44] <AJIEXA> People, help me plz... I do like in manuale - why i can't do this "#sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" - I have information about "pressmision denided" - why ???
[11:44] <ardchoille42> Xif, open a terminal and run the 'history' command to see what you did, then you can reverse it.
[11:45] <Tarsinion1> TheSkorm: that cant be the final solution ;-)
[11:45] <Xif> ardchoille42: thanks, I'll try this next.
[11:45] <Tarsinion1> there should be a standard way to set a password :S ?
[11:45] <Tarsinion1> for an archive
[11:46] <mneptok> Tarsinion1: there is. GPG.
[11:46] <VSpike> yay I have an X server :)
[11:46] <Tarsinion1> yes i know :)
[11:47] <TheSkorm> zip -P password filename
[11:47] <TheSkorm> i think
[11:47] <mneptok> those passwords are *so* pointless
[11:47] <brainly-green> shift-apple-back-delete
[11:47] <mneptok> like a deadbolt lock on a screen door.
[11:48] <mneptok> brainly-green: "apple?"
[11:48] <Sunjo> how do i go about install cedega that is in a cpkg format?
[11:48] <finalbeta> I need to pass an argument to one of the kernel modules at boot time. What file do I edit?
[11:48] <brainly-green> I have a macbook
[11:48] <brainly-green> in addition to my ubuntu tower
[11:48] <TheSkorm> shift,shift,shift.shift,shift, ctrl+alt+del, s , enter
[11:48] <mneptok> brainly-green: that key is called "command" ;)
[11:48] <TheSkorm> do that in windows 2000/xp pro
[11:49] <TheSkorm> and plays a nice tune
[11:49] <Sunjo> how do i go about install cedega that is in a cpkg format?
[11:49] <brainly-green> yeah well I just called it "apple" so it has been called apple, in fact I'm calling it apple right now so it IS called apple
[11:49] <mneptok> Sunjo: #cedega?
[11:49] <axa-axa> Hi. I have small keyboard and there is no right CTRL key, bu instead Menu (Windows) and Properties keys. How can I make right (or both if that is too much to bother with) Menu key to work as CTRL?
[11:49] <sdac221x> hi,  can someone tell me how to mount and ntfs partition in ubuntu.  Qparted says that my ntfs partition is /dev/sda1.   i am doing "sudo sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/win"  but i get the following error  "mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/win3 busy.  mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media/win"
[11:49] <sdac221x> any ideas ?
[11:50] <mneptok> sdac221x: maybe it's actually already mouted?
[11:50] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, already mounted?
[11:50] <mneptok> sdac221x: have you looked in /media/win ?
[11:51] <sdac221x> yes media/win was created by me
[11:51] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, type mount and see if it's already mounted
[11:51] <mneptok> sdac221x: have you **** looked **** in /media/win ?
[11:51] <fontpd> I can't figure out what filesystem to use whem mounting this usb drive. It's a windows drive, but -t vfat and  and -t ntfs do not work.
[11:51] <cikas> installation step failed;you can try to run the failling item again from the menu,or skip it and choose something else.the failling step is:select and install sofware
[11:52] <cikas> can anybody help me?
[11:52] <sdac221x> it says "bash: cd: /media/win: Permission denied"  when i try to look
[11:52] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, type mount and see if it's already mounted
[11:52] <mneptok> sdac221x: use nautilus
[11:52] <cikas> pls help me to install ubuntu
[11:52] <Alarm> hello, is it possible just to have an application to copy-paste file in a dvd-rw ?
[11:52] <Alarm> instead of using k3b for example
[11:53] <mneptok> sdac221x: and if that does not work, chown/chmod are your friends
[11:53] <dusty__> Hey guys, I did an apt-get install, and now I have a webserver running (the CUPS GUI web interface).  I don't use CUPs or even the linux box for printing at all, how can I stop it from running?
[11:53] <sdac221x> yes it says permission denied in nautlits.  is there a way to unmount
[11:53] <fontpd> up, nevermind. I was using the wrong device.
[11:54] <cikas> at top of the window is 'configuring fdutils'
[11:54] <cikas> installation step failed;you can try to run the failling item again from the menu,or skip it and choose something else.the failling step is:select and install sofware
[11:54] <cikas> pls help
[11:54] <denardo> Hi, all. How do I switch between the built-in sound on my laptop and my VxPocket PCMCIA audio device? Both are supported, but switching between them baffles me.
[11:54] <ardchoille42> sdac221x, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[11:54] <mneptok> cikas: md5sum the CD. dowload again if necessary. burn at </= 4x
[11:55] <cikas> i burn it at 1x
[11:55] <mneptok> cikas: md5sum the CD ISO image. download again if necessary.
[11:55] <Xif> denardo: Volume Control -> File -> Change Device
[11:55] <axa-axa> I have small keyboard and there is no right CTRL key, bu instead Menu (Windows) and Properties keys. How can I make right (or both if that is too much to bother with) Menu key to work as CTRL?
[11:56] <Xif> How do I shut down X without having it restart a few seconds later, like it does for Ctrl-Alt-Backspace ?
[11:56] <cikas> md5sum????
[11:56] <ardchoille42> Xif, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:56] <denardo> Xif: Where is Volume Control?
[11:56] <Xif> denardo: several places, most accessibly in your task bar
[11:56] <Xif> (the speaker icon)
[11:57] <mike1o> : i've successfully installed the drivers by running the official binay & manually changing "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg.conf but  i have to rerun the script and restart X everytime after I boot
[11:57] <denardo> OK, found it.
[11:57] <Xif> ardchoille42: thanks
[11:58] <ardchoille42> I guess he stopped more than just x, lol
[11:58] <denardo> Hmm, changing the device had no effect
[11:58] <dusty__> Hey guys, I did an apt-get install, and now I have a webserver running (the CUPS GUI web interface).  I don't use CUPs or even the linux box for printing at all, how can I stop it from running?
[11:58] <Staz> Hi, what was the crappy display driver for xorg.conf?
[11:59] <Ferret> vesa
[12:00] <denardo> More Hmm -- some apps are using the selected device, some aren't.
[12:00] <axa-axa> I have small keyboard and there is no right CTRL key, bu instead Menu (Windows) and Properties keys. How can I make right (or both if that is too much to bother with) Menu key to work as CTRL?
[12:01] <voicu> Can I forward all internet traffic to another machine? To make it look like the one behind the router has the external ip address..
[12:01] <brainly-green> axa-axa you might want to look into xmodmap
[12:01] <voicu> i tried with iptables and i'm not sure it worked
[12:02] <raf256> hello fellow linux users
[12:02] <raf256> I am making a 30 second survey about users of linux - can you help?
[12:02] <raf256> the results will be public available :)
[12:02] <raf256> http://tinyurl.com/2uazkw
[12:02] <axa-axa> brainly-green: Frankly I don't want to lose too much time only for this, is there maybe some graphical utility?
[12:02] <raf256> btw, I hope the page is viewable also in terminal
[12:02] <ardchoille42> raf256, This isn't the place for that.
[12:02] <TechSalvager> nalioth, around mate?
[12:02] <raf256> ardchoille42: why? I need opinions from various groups
[12:03] <ardchoille42> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <mike1o> !nvidia
[12:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <raf256> hmm
[12:04] <cmt^^> what's wrong with this: "header("Location: db_login.php");
[12:04] <cmt^^> It gives me a syntax error..(?)
[12:05] <raf256> ardchoille42: can you then reccomend me a better place? we aim to gather about 500 responses to have reasonable results
[12:05] <ardchoille42> raf256, Please take this conversation to ##ubuntu-offtopic
[12:05] <raf256> ardchoille42: oh, ok
[12:05] <raf256> ardchoille42: but there is no such channel.
[12:06] <ardchoille42> raf256, Placing you on my ignore list
[12:06] <mojo_> raf256: why dont you get prepared in an appropriate channel, and then pop in and invite folks to join you there?  when you have enough people you can go...
[12:06] <Staz> Ferret : cheers my brain remembered 'mesa' which is close :)
[12:06] <raf256> ardchoille42: oh noes.
[12:06] <mojo_> raf256: but be BRIEF, nobody likes soliciations much in any channel
[12:08] <mojo_> raf256: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <raf256> mojo_: ok
[12:08] <mabus> where can I specify what media plugin I want firefox to use to play files?
[12:11] <pfarmer> cmt^^: what error do you specifically get?
[12:11] <archangelpetro> xif ??
[12:12] <cmt^^> pfarmer - sorry, wrong channel
[12:12] <cmt^^> thought I was in #php
[12:12] <ardchoille42> archangelpetro, He meant to type my name, but tab completion bit him, lol
[12:12] <cmt^^> pfarmer - '
[12:12] <cmt^^> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /var/www/blogg/db_logentry.php on line 21
[12:12] <archangelpetro> ahh ok ty ardchoille42  :D
[12:13] <pfarmer> cmt^^: have you had an answer in #php?
[12:15] <cmt^^> pfarmer - yes, thank you anyways :)
[12:15] <cmt^^> just forgot a "
[12:15] <mabus> probably not, only decent programming help chan on freenode is #perl :)
[12:19] <ad_> azureus does not show on my system tray when i run 6.1.. what's the fix?
[12:21] <axa-axa> If "Control_R" referers to left CTRL key in output of `xmodmap -pke` command, why doesnt my right Windows key behaves like CTRL after `xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Control_L'` ?
[12:22] <_polto_> hello all
[12:22] <cmt^^> How do I set nano to use smaller tabs?
[12:22] <cmt^^> it's in the .nanorc i figure, but what's the syntax for changing tab size?
[12:23] <axa-axa> If I try to map that key to Alt_R than it works, but if I try to make it behave like CTRL by mapping it to Control_L (or Control_R) it doesnt.
[12:23] <_polto_> how can i change the "System" menu in gnome? I'dd like to add an "Abount my company" ...
[12:24] <pfarmer> cmt^^: set tabsize "n"
[12:24] <cmt^^> pfarmer - in .nanorc?
[12:25] <Azul> _polto_: right click > edit menus
[12:25] <pfarmer> cmt^^: yeah
[12:25] <pfarmer> cmt^^: try it and see
[12:26] <cmt^^> pfarmer - perfect, thanks
[12:26] <pfarmer> cmt^^: :)
[12:26] <axa-axa> Anyone, please?
[12:28] <_polto_> Azul , no you can't modify System menu like what.
[12:29] <DaveR> Hi
[12:30] <DaveR> Will ubuntu run on this spec: P3 1ghz, 128mb ram?
[12:30] <soundray> DaveR: not well. Try xubuntu.
[12:31] <cmt^^> How do I type out a file > clipboard in a terminal?
[12:31] <soundray> DaveR: or get some extra RAM, because the CPU is fine
[12:31] <DaveR> ok, cause i tried running the live disk to install and it seems to take ages for it to load the prvie and nothing seems to happen.
[12:31] <Ricket> Okay so I started my Ubuntu (actually Edubuntu, although I uninstalled the edubuntu features) computer this morning to a lovely error message, something to the tune of an automatic fsck failed so i have to do it manually and then reboot.
[12:31] <Ricket> I have seen this once before too; what is it? what's the problem?
[12:32] <Xif> Ricket: sounds like a hard drive problem.
[12:32] <DaveR> for the price of a RAM stick i will just upgrade i think.
[12:33] <soundray> Ricket: your filesystem is in an inconsistent state, and it's giving you a chance to make a partition image before you do the fsck, because fsck needs to make changes that cannot be undone
[12:33] <Ricket> Maybe I'll try getting and running SpinRite then... I've been meaning to get it anyway for a while
[12:33] <mabus> I made the unfortunate mistake of installing to empty space on my disk instead of formatting my hard disk... how can I move all of the files from the small partition to a new one that is at the beginning of the disk?
[12:34] <mabus> DaveR: you really should take his advice and try xubuntu
[12:34] <soundray> mabus: boot the live CD, format the new partition, mount the new and the old, and copy everything over.
[12:34] <mabus> soundray: copy everything over with just a... `cp`?
[12:34] <Ricket> Okay so I suppose after running SpinRite I'll make another attempt at Ubuntu. What do I type to get this fsck to be happy and then get back into Ubuntu so I can look at a few files before wiping the hard drive and fixing it?
[12:35] <mabus> nothing will get missed or borked in that way?
[12:35] <soundray> mabus: use either "cp -a" or the tar method from the Tips-HOWTO
[12:35] <soundray> mabus: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Tips-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.6
[12:36] <soundray> mabus: oh, and do everything from a sudo shell (sudo -i)
[12:36] <Uo> Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running.
[12:36] <axa-axa> Can someone please tell me how to map CTR to right Windows key?
[12:37] <axa-axa> If "Control_R" referers to left CTRL key in output of `xmodmap -pke` command, why doesnt my right Windows key behaves like CTRL after `xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Control_L'` ?
[12:37] <axa-axa> If I try to map that key to Alt_R than it works, but if I try to make it behave like CTRL by mapping it to Control_L (or Control_R) it doesnt.
[12:37] <Uo> Cann't add battery monitor to panel
[12:38] <Uo> ...
[12:38] <Uo> Who can help me ?
[12:39] <eternalswd> how do I configure which java to use?
[12:39] <DaveR> mabus: what is missing from it?
[12:39] <eternalswd> !java
[12:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:39] <soundray> eternalswd: "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[12:39] <axa-axa> !xmodmap
[12:40] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[12:40] <Ricket> bleah, i'm getting errors about "Inodes"... this is territory that i've never traveled in before :)
[12:40] <mabus> soundray: thanks
[12:40] <mabus> DaveR: missing from xubuntu? well it just has a different (lighter, and in my opinion better) window manager
[12:40] <eternalswd> update-alternatives: unknown argument `-config' any ideas?
[12:40] <Uo> ?
[12:40] <holyduck_> we need a fluxubuntu
[12:41] <mabus> holyduck_: it exists
[12:41] <holyduck_> :O
[12:41] <mabus> I am running fluxbox on ubuntu right now
[12:41] <nothlit> #fluxbuntu holyduck_
[12:41] <soundray> eternalswd: you used the wrong type of hyphen. Try with a minus
[12:41] <mabus> but not the actual fluxbuntu... it's xubuntu with flux
[12:41] <holyduck_> i am running fluxbox too
[12:41] <holyduck_> ubuntu server
[12:41] <holyduck_> with fluxbox
[12:41] <holyduck_> as in i innstalled the server edition
[12:41] <holyduck_> without lamp
[12:41] <mabus> yeah
[12:41] <mabus> familiar with it
[12:41] <holyduck_> and then installed x.org
[12:42] <holyduck_> and so on
[12:42] <DaveR> mabus: i will give it a try then, i only want to give linux a try on a spare computer.  if all goes well i am going to a computer fair next week so will proble get some ram to boost it as looking at the spec it is a itte out dated.
[12:42] <bimberi_> !fluxbuntu
[12:42] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[12:43] <Ricket> yay my fsck'ed computer started up XD
[12:43] <eternalswd> soundtray, that was weird, any idea why was the hyphen different?
[12:44] <Uo> ??
[12:44] <Ricket> i think the linux writers named it "fsck" on purpose, instead of calling it something like "chkdsk" like windows :)
[12:45] <mabus> ubotu should probably note that fluxbox doesn't have anything finished except for artwork :/
[12:45] <soundray> eternalswd: not sure. It looked like an effect from autocorrect in OOo writer. That changes a double hyphen to a single long one.
[12:45] <mabus> fluxbuntu I mean
[12:45] <soundray> mabus: is that so? They really have their priorities right ;)
[12:45] <mabus> It has a dev version but doesn't appear to be complete/stable/something I'd advise advertising in #ubuntu
[12:46] <holyduck_> how hard can it realy be, i mean atleast installing fluxbox from a ubuntu server is the easy
[12:46] <eternalswd> soundray, hmmm couldn't tell on my machine, maybe my font does both the same.  I copied off a website, go figure
[12:46] <holyduck_> but then again, making a cd and distor might be harder
[12:46] <Ricket> What is a good, lightweight torrent client for Linux? I use uTorrent on Windows XP but I might switch my main "server" computer to Linux if I can find equivalents of all my Windows programs... Which isn't very many :)
[12:46] <mabus> holyduck_: well the livecd has a predefined password, which is pretty stupid for one
[12:47] <mabus> Ricket: rtorrent if you can handle ncurses type stuff
[12:47] <mabus> as in no pretty gui
[12:47] <mabus> otherwise, just use wine and run utorrent
[12:47] <Ricket> mabus: actually i _just now_ found KTorrent which, according to some news thing, is the "uTorrent for Linux users"
[12:47] <mabus> the standalone, executable version + wine works fine
[12:47] <Ricket> but isn't that for the other desktop which ubuntu isn't?
[12:48] <Ricket> i mean K[blah] , not wine
[12:48] <DaveR> i have a usb wireless dongle, is there software to run this so i can connect to my network or not?
[12:48] <soundray> Ricket: most kde applications work just fine in ubuntu's gnome
[12:48] <mabus> Ricket: ubuntu and kubuntu just come with different display managers (gnome/kde)
[12:48] <Ricket> DaveR: what make and model?
[12:48] <mabus> you can install KDE stuff in gnome and vice versa
[12:48] <Ricket> ah, okay, cool.
[12:49] <Ricket> DaveR: what make and model?
[12:49] <Ricket> i have a WG111 netgear wireless adapter and I got it working
[12:49] <Ricket> it required ndiswrapper, and blacklisting some interfering drivers
[12:49] <mneptok> Ricket: looking for a torrent client? ;)
[12:49] <Ricket> DaveR: you might be looking for an answer as simple as, look at ndiswrapper, or if you have problems then you might be left searching google for a time
[12:50] <DaveR> Ricket: no idea mate, it doesn't have any markings and it was just the one which cam with my network router which is a mid range no make one lol
[12:50] <Ricket> mneptok: of course
[12:50] <mneptok> Ricket: sudo aptitude install bittornado-gui
[12:50] <mabus> I'm telling you, rtorrent is the best. Because you can put it in screen <3
[12:50] <Ricket> DaveR: weird.
[12:50] <soundray> DaveR: the older it is, the better your chance for it to work
[12:50] <ZeiP> I've managed to screw my config files up  I previously had LDAP-based authentication, which I removed, however now I'm not able to login at all.
[12:50] <mabus> Ricket: actually, the *best* torrent client is torrentflux... but you need to have a webserver running on that machine (not hard)
[12:50] <ZeiP> Where can I find the correct lines in the /etc/pam.d files?
[12:50] <DaveR> soundray: it is about 18 months od
[12:50] <mabus> sets up a website where you can manage downloads etc, remotely if you wish
[12:50] <DaveR> od
[12:50] <DaveR> old
[12:51] <mneptok> Ricket: go with BitTornado. runs natively, has a good feature set, and can be used from a CLI or GUI
[12:51] <mabus> mneptok: I'm going to vote against that but to each his own.
[12:51] <Ricket> mabus: yeah I looked at that for Windows XP but it was incredibly slow, although I would expect it to be faster on Linux..
[12:51] <mneptok> mabus: uhhhh ....
[12:51] <mneptok> mabus: did you not just recommend T-flux?
[12:51] <mabus> no I didn't
[12:51] <Ricket> lol
[12:51] <DaveR> this is it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-WG111-Wireless-54Mbps-Adapter/dp/B0002LHX8O/sr=8-16/qid=1170330683/ref=sr_1_16/203-1695907-7739913?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
[12:51] <soundray> DaveR: it's hard to tell. You really need to know what chipset is used inside to determine whether it has Linux support. You could try finding out the chipset via the FCC number.
[12:51] <Xif> mabus: why is it the "*best*"? what can it do?
[12:52] <mabus> I reccomended rtorrent or wine, I just said tflux was the best
[12:52] <DaveR> i think the company might have rebranded the casing of mine
[12:52] <Ricket> Xif: can be accessed easily through a browser, which is just cool.
[12:52] <mabus> Xif: Because I am at a friends house and I am managing my torrent downloads with a pretty web interface.
[12:52] <mneptok> mabus: guess what Torrentflux uses as its torrent client engine .....
[12:52] <mneptok> ;)
[12:52] <soundray> DaveR: still -- Ricket got one of those to work, mine doesn't
[12:52] <Ricket> yeah at the moment, i'm using the beta of uTorrent's WebUI version/plugin and it works great
[12:52] <mabus> btcurses.py or whatever
[12:53] <mneptok> mabus: BitTornado
[12:53] <Ricket> soundray: maybe you have conflicting drivers too?
[12:53] <mabus> mneptok: No I'm pretty sure it uses bittorrent-curses.py
[12:53] <Ricket> soundray: i just googled and tried all sorts of things til it worked
[12:53] <mneptok> mabus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrentflux
[12:54] <mabus> mneptok: checked my configs, you are right sir
[12:54] <soundray> Ricket: that's the way -- with sufficient energy, you can get almost anything to work. I don't need mine at the moment, and I'm keeping it as a spare. It'll be supported in feisty.
[12:55] <mneptok> mabus: that's why they pay me the big bucks ;)
[12:55] <Ricket> soundray: lol yeah, but that's the problem with linux... it requires significantly more energy than windows xp :)
[12:55] <mabus> Is that why I'm unemployed?
[12:55] <mneptok> wait ... no they don't! HEY!
[12:55] <azrael1> Ricket: False.
[12:55] <Ricket> soundray: it took me hours to find that solution, and there are plenty of people that gave up without finding the solution. i don't even know how you would go about figuring out that drivers are conflicting with nmapwrapper...
[12:56] <mabus> heh nmapwrapper
[12:56] <mneptok> Ricket: one word. regedit.
[12:56] <Ricket> i mean, spending hours to figure out how to make a usb wireless adapter work with ubuntu... i almost just gave up ubuntu
[12:56] <soundray> Ricket: on the other hand, if something doesn't work in Windows, more often than not you are completely stuck.
[12:56] <Ricket> mneptok: linux has a registry??
[12:56] <Ricket> mneptok: oh lol nvm, i get it. you're saying it's complicated
[12:57] <Ricket> soundray: not sure whether that's any more true than it is for linux...
[12:57] <mneptok> Ricket: i'm saying "Linux is no more complicated for a Windows user than is Windows for a Linux user."
[12:58] <mabus> Ricket: no, it's open
[12:58] <Ricket> mneptok: could be. i haven't been a linux user so...
[12:58] <mabus> so you can make it work, it's just a limit as to how far you will go
[12:58] <Ricket> ah yeah, open source.
[12:58] <Ricket> that would be pretty far to have to travel though, just to get a wireless usb device to work :)
[12:59] <Ricket> i would rather just use a wireless bridge, hehe
[12:59] <soundray> Ricket: yes, I think it is, simply because you have full flexibility, up to and including changing the source code. Tried that with Windows? ;)
[12:59] <mneptok> Ricket: say i want to install a good bitmap editor. in Ubuntu i type "sudo aptitude install gimp" how abouit Windows?
[12:59] <Jedrick> how to enable openglx.. i can't run wine because of this openglx thingy
[12:59] <mabus> well, somebody had to do that before your wireless usb device worked
[12:59] <mabus> as in, code their own open drivers
[12:59] <Ricket> mneptok: yes, I agree Linux sure wins with its package manager
[12:59] <_polto_> how can i change the "System" menu in gnome? I'dd like to add an "Abount my company" ...
[12:59] <soundray> mneptok: you go to a shop and buy an expensive shrinkwrap package with an obnoxious license ;)
[12:59] <mabus> mneptok: ms paint > *
[12:59] <Ricket> mneptok: but in Windows, to get my video card to work I went to ati.com and installed the universal drivers. can't say the same for Ubuntu...
[01:00] <Ricket> mabus: no, actually I used ndiswrapper which used the Windows drivers
[01:01] <Ricket> mabus: (re: somebody had to do that before...)
[01:01] <soundray> Ricket: well, it's probably not Linux's fault that ATI provides cr.. erm, poor support for it.
[01:02] <Ricket> soundray: I should think that if ATI can make a universal driver program, the Linux programmers could do the same...
[01:02] <Ricket> Anyway we aren't getting anywhere arguing, both OSes have their ups and downs
[01:02] <soundray> Ricket: no, they can't, unless ATI provides them with the hardware specs, which they don't.
[01:02] <Ricket> I'm just saying, I have had a better experience with Windows. And apparently everyone here has had better experience with Ubuntu.
[01:03] <Ricket> soundray: decompiling/disassembling. that's how wine did it, so why not video drivers.
[01:03] <soundray> Ricket: they are working on that
[01:04] <soundray> Ricket: but the chipsets change so quickly that it's always a game of catchup.
[01:04] <IntuitiveNipple> The thing most people forget about is, with Linux, most people that 'hack' drivers are unpaid volunteers, whereas almost without exception the people creating Windows drivers are employed by the company that developed the hardware.
[01:04] <soundray> Ricket: especially if you're competing with developers who have the full specs and are paid prime salaries.
[01:04] <Ricket> Indeed.
[01:05] <mojojojo__> :)
[01:05] <Ricket> Is that really a win for Linux? :-P
[01:05] <rausb0> soundray: yeah, the spec thing is one big difference
[01:05] <IntuitiveNipple> mmmm, just what i need - just had a fab walk around the farm
[01:05] <mneptok> Ricket: re: video drivers .... *that's an ATI problem, not a Linux problem*
[01:06] <philipsmith> I want to share files between my ubuntu and XP machine and have followed directions at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26438 . When I do a Places > Connect to server I can see my windows network and follow it to get files on the XP machine. However, when I'm on the XP machine, I can see the ubuntu machine in the windows workgroup, but when I try to login with my ubuntu username and password, XP won't let me loo
[01:06] <philipsmith> k at the folders on my ubuntu machine. What did I do wrong?
[01:06] <IntuitiveNipple> The beauty, and the biggest headache about Linux, is access to the source-code. It means if you have the talent you can hack a solution, but *boy* its hard-work because much of the code is poorly documented and changes arbitarily with very little top-down documentation
[01:07] <Ricket> okay well I'm off to wipe my drive, SpinRite it, then put Ubuntu back on and set it up again. I'll be back if I have questions, which surely I will when I'm trying to set up my ATI card.
[01:07] <mneptok> philipsmith: your /etc/samba/smb.conf needs editing
[01:07] <soundray> philipsmith: I had a similar problem. In my case, the ownership and permissions of the shared folders were wrong.
[01:07] <philipsmith> mneptok: how does /etc/samba/smb.conf need to be changed?
[01:09] <soundray> philipsmith: also, make sure you've used smbpasswd -- samba doesn't look at the usual unix passwords.
[01:09] <philipsmith> soundray: I used sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami` then set the password. Is this correct?
[01:09] <meal3837> ok, fglrx doesn't support radeon 7000, but the ati driver included with ubuntu doesn't support 3D rendering
[01:10] <meal3837> is there a driver that does both?
[01:10] <meal3837> opensource driver
[01:10] <mneptok> philipsmith: you need to enable user access
[01:10] <mneptok> philipsmith: look at the file. you'll find it. :)
[01:11] <soundray> philipsmith: yes -- although I don't like the backticks. Better to do 'smbpasswd -a $(whoami)'
[01:11] <rausb0> meal3837: the ubuntu ati driver does support 3d, but only for some ati radeon cards
[01:11] <mojo_> Ricket: the problem is that ATI wants to keep their drivers closed source to hide things, or because they have signed non-disclosure agreements with other companies that supply components and are restricted.  So they write a glue program that can compile in linux (open source) and it provides the black-box bridge to the ATI stuff... But then ATI is just slow and non-responsive in general to the Linux community.  Linux devs would DO IT FO
[01:11] <mojo_> R THEM FOR FREE if they'd just release some specifications.  But they want to keep secrets, which is counter to the philosophy that has allowed Linux to blossom.  See this article... http://www.kroah.com/log/2007/01/29/#free_drivers
[01:11] <mike1o> houston we have a problem http://sh.nu/p/8709
[01:11] <soundray> philipsmith: better still, 'smbpasswd -a philipsmith' or whatever your username is.
[01:12] <PORDO> ImportError: No module named Image <-- any python experts?
[01:12] <Sum> hey room
[01:12] <Sum> can anyone tell me how to format a disk/usb stick to fat32??
[01:12] <yomm> isn't the default user added automatically to the smbpasswd group ?
[01:12] <meal3837> aka not mine
[01:12] <meal3837> lol
[01:13] <soundray> Sum: use mkdosfs -F32 (I think it's in dosfstools)
[01:13] <Sum> yeah!!
[01:13] <Sum> lets try it out
[01:13] <rausb0> meal3837: i dont know the radeon 7000. here i have a radeon 9200pro and radeon x300, both run with the open source radeon driver and 3d accel.
[01:14] <Sum> what do I put as the location??
[01:14] <soundray> Sum: be careful when you enter the device name. Get it wrong, and you're formatting your Ubuntu partition ;)
[01:14] <esperegu> where does ubuntu store it's session infoL
[01:14] <esperegu> ?
[01:14] <Jedrick> anybody here had encounter the same error like mine.. i have problem in wine on openglx support.
[01:14] <Sum> DOHHH!!!
[01:14] <esperegu> (which prograws it start at login)
[01:14] <Sum> nah, let me try this out
[01:14] <ReYnoLd_sby> surabaya
[01:14] <meal3837> my computer is definitely an 8y/o frankenstein . . . I'll take what I can get, and if that doesn't include beryl, oh well
[01:15] <pesco> Hi, what's the recommended upgrade path from 6.06 to 6.10 with ubuntu server? Is the apt-get dist-upgrade path safe?
[01:15] <soundray> Sum: you need to find that out for yourself. Running 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then plugging the drive may give you a hint.
[01:15] <mike1o> houston we have a problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3672/
[01:15] <soundray> Sum: probably something like /dev/sda1
[01:15] <soundray> mike1o: don't repeat, and treat us with a little respect.
[01:15] <rodox> hi folks
[01:16] <rodox> someone can help me with gedit?
[01:16] <mike1o> soundray: i respect linux people
[01:16] <vlt> Hello. I just replaced my AMD Athlon XP CPU with an AMD Athlon 64 X2, still running 2.6.15-27-k7 (now SMP). Is -k7 still a good choice? Should I switch to -686? Why is CPU usage in `top` shown as INT only now? ...?
[01:16] <aidan> hey
[01:16] <rodox> it doesn't do python highlight correctly
[01:17] <meal3837> rodox: how so?
[01:17] <philipsmith> soundray many thanks.
[01:17] <rodox> meal3837: the string color isn't appear
[01:17] <ReYnoLd_sby> surabaya
[01:17] <rodox> meal3837: strings appears at common text
[01:17] <meal3837> did you already save the file as .py?
[01:18] <Sum> all I got was
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 11:54:20 localhost kernel: [17183064.244000]  NTFS volume version 3.0.
[01:18] <rodox> meal3837: yes
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[7655] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:41 localhost kernel: [17184465.708000]  usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 5
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:42 localhost kernel: [17184465.964000]   1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:42 localhost kernel: [17184465.964000]  FAT: bread failed in fat_clusters_flush
[01:18] <Sum> Feb  1 12:17:42 localhost kernel: [17184465.964000]   1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[01:18] <soundray> vlt: stick with k7, it makes very little difference (if any)
[01:18] <meal3837> hmm
[01:18] <bimberi_> rodox: View -> Highlight Mode -> Scripts -> Python
[01:18] <Sum> sorry for the dump!!
[01:18] <soundray> Sum: you're not supposed to paste stuff here. Read the topic.
[01:18] <rodox> meal3837: I did it
[01:18] <rodox> meal3837: I change the foreground color, but it have no results in editor window
[01:18] <Sum> sorry mate,
[01:19] <Sum> didn't know that
[01:19] <rodox> meal3837: it happened with me using dapper
[01:19] <rodox> meal3837: now with edgy too
[01:19] <aidan> DBO thaks for help earlier
[01:19] <meal3837> so it's just staying black on strings?
[01:20] <rodox> meal3837: yes, only on strings
[01:20] <Rly> anyone can help me by providing me knowlege on installing ubuntu on a dynamic disk?
[01:20] <meal3837> but works with the rest of the highlighting?
[01:20] <rodox> meal3837: imports, classes and defs are highlighted
[01:21] <rodox> meal3837: it only happens with strings
[01:21] <soundray> Sum: observe the messages while you plug it *in*, and look for clues regarding the device name (It's one of /dev/sda, sdb, sdc etc.)
[01:21] <meal3837> do you have IDLE?
[01:22] <rodox> yes, but I don't like Tk
[01:22] <meal3837> aH
[01:22] <modulus> hi, my ubuntu system doesn't seem capable to make more than a sound at a time
[01:22] <Sum> nah, not sure where the device is, or its address, but thanks soundray
[01:22] <modulus> at least while using orca if i call totem i get an error about the sound device being in use.
[01:23] <rodox> meal3837: I think that is a problem with libgtksourceview
[01:23] <modulus> the sound device is told by lspci to be as followss: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:23] <meal3837> has it ever worked?
[01:23] <rodox> no, never worked
[01:23] <rodox> it is a fresh ubuntu install
[01:23] <pbureau> Iam compiling Networkmanage 0.6.4 and I get  in ./configure a "checking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory" am I missing a library or is this normal ?
[01:24] <modulus> you might be missing a linker.
[01:24] <modulus> do you have build-essential?
[01:24] <soundray> Sum: if you're sure that your main hard drive is not /dev/sda (check the output of mount, it's most likely /dev/hda), then you can reasonably safely try 'mkdosfs -F32 /dev/sda1'
[01:24] <Xif> How do I get stuff like gmail-notify to auto-run on startup?
[01:24] <pbureau> going to check (I knew that was the next quesdtion after seein "linker:"
[01:25] <soundray> Xif: do you actually mean startup, or login?
[01:25] <Xif> soundray: gmail-notify has gui components, so probably after X and Gnome were started.
[01:25] <Xif> does that mean startup or login? :)
[01:26] <soundray> Xif: System-Preferences-Sessions-Startup Programs
[01:26] <ReYnoLd_sby> hancok
[01:26] <meal3837> I'm checking some things, just a sec
[01:26] <Xif> soundray: thanks
[01:27] <jancok> surabaya
[01:29] <meal3837> rodox: still have your cd?
[01:30] <rodox> meal3837: yes
[01:30] <meal3837> mmk, have you tried removing and reinstalling gedit?
[01:32] <meal3837> if you try that, it might want to take ubuntu-desktop with it
[01:32] <meal3837> and you have to do a separate install to get that back
[01:32] <soundray> meal3837: and if you ask me, it's not going to make the slightest difference
[01:33] <meal3837> idk if that will help at all, but it's possible there was a minor glitch in the original install
[01:33] <aidan> hi
[01:33] <meal3837> back when he set up with dapper
[01:33] <aidan> need help setupin codec
[01:33] <meal3837> unlikely, I know, but I'm not sure what else it could be
[01:34] <soundray> meal3837: I wonder if (s)he would get the same thing with a different/new user
[01:34] <aidan> need help
[01:35] <meal3837> hmm, maybe
[01:35] <aidan> setup in media codec
[01:35] <soundray> aidan: you need to ask a question
[01:35] <aidan> how do i instal tthe stupid gstremer mp3 codec
[01:35] <soundray> aidan: follow the instructions on the wiki
[01:36] <soundray> !mp3 | aidan
[01:36] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <meal3837> help.ubuntu.com will show you how
[01:36] <aidan> tryed that serval times
[01:36] <aidan> didnt work
[01:36] <soundray> !doesn't work
[01:36] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:36] <meal3837> mp3 is overated
[01:36] <holyduck_> meal3837, true dat
[01:37] <meal3837> convert the worl to ogg
[01:37] <aidan> well then i need a converter
[01:37] <meal3837> *world
[01:37] <aidan> ogg is it better then mp3?
[01:37] <soundray> I would like to convert all my mp3's to jpg, how do I go about that?
[01:37] <lounge> why does openoffice not save my print areas when i save a document? it seems to loose all the print area details and print everything every time I load up. I have to set them every time??!? any offers?
[01:37] <soundray> Just kiddin'
[01:37] <meal3837> ogg is free
[01:37] <holyduck_> and awsome
[01:37] <aidan> yeah not an album i got
[01:38] <aidan> its in mp3 format
[01:38] <compengi> !paste
[01:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:38] <christo> Guys, I don't have the 'Configuration Editor' under Applications -> System Tools.   Anybody know what package this is part of please ?
[01:38] <philipsmith> how do I find out what my netbios name is?
[01:39] <meal3837> who here's familiar with the network tools?
[01:39] <meal3837> whois, finger, etc
[01:39] <meal3837> !finger
[01:39] <ubotu> finger: user information lookup program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.17-10 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 76 kB
[01:40] <eXistenZ__> What is the best filesystem to share between windows and linux?
[01:40] <holyduck_> fat32
[01:40] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[01:40] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[01:40] <aidan> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:40] <aidan> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[01:40] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[01:40] <holyduck_> eXistenZ__, fat32 is a good choiche
[01:40] <philipsmith> meal3837: Do you mean that to find my netbios name is to use finger?
[01:40] <eXistenZ__> holyduck_, ext2?
[01:41] <uuz8> er chat.118.lv
[01:41] <holyduck_> i dunno if windows can read and write to that, but i used to use fat 32 for inbetween windows and linux file sharing
[01:41] <meal3837> philipsmith, no, sorry separate question
[01:41] <eXistenZ__> holyduck_, yeah
[01:41] <eXistenZ__> holyduck_, http://www.fs-driver.org/
[01:41] <soundray> eXistenZ__: ext3 is a good choice if you can install a driver for it in Windows (ext2fsd)
[01:42] <eXistenZ__> I have an ntfs partition, I wonder whether it would be able to convert it to ext3
[01:42] <soundray> eXistenZ__: sure: backup, reformat, restore ;)
[01:42] <meal3837> aidan: pitfdll?
[01:43] <eXistenZ__> soundray, Are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[01:43] <soundray> eXistenZ__: what does it matter?
[01:43] <modulus> hmm, any clues why the sound card might not want to play more than a sound at a time?
[01:43] <meal3837> aidan: I don't think you need that one
[01:43] <eXistenZ__> soundray, Just of interest.
[01:44] <soundray> eXistenZ__: ubuntu
[01:44] <eXistenZ__> ah, same to me. I'm using now windows, though.
[01:44] <aidan> well what do i need then meal3837
[01:44] <soundray> modulus: one of your sound programs is using OSS output mode, thereby hogging the whole sound system.
[01:44] <modulus> oy. that is bad.
[01:45] <meal3837> aidan did it install the rest of the packages that you wanted, or did it hang on the one it couldn't find
[01:45] <modulus> is it possible to find who is the evil one?
[01:45] <aidan> hang on
[01:45] <soundray> modulus: it probably is
[01:45] <modulus> would fuser /dev/dsp do it?
[01:45] <meal3837> try that command without the pitfdll
[01:46] <aalhamad> i just have a Q.. and im seeing for help to get started.. I have done a heloo word example (http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_syntax.asp) and i placed it in my DocumentRoot... But as i acess it i get a file which download ... why is that???
[01:46] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10- E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:46] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[01:46] <holyduck_> aidan, apt-get aptitude or synaptic is running
[01:47] <modulus> sounds like you have another apt app opened.
[01:47] <meal3837> aidan, tru dat
[01:47] <meal3837> aidan:it's probably a zombie, or something similar
[01:47] <aidan> im confused
[01:48] <aidan> add aplications is open
[01:48] <meal3837> aidan, ok, either use add application or command line
[01:49] <aidan> okies
[01:49] <aidan> cmd line seems easyer atm
[01:49] <meal3837> aidan: you can't use both, because you can only have one instance of apt
[01:49] <aidan> and also how do i ping users on here :S
[01:49] <meal3837> man ping
[01:49] <aidan> meal3837 ping
[01:50] <meal3837> what?
[01:50] <meal3837> oh, in the chat? fiik
[01:50] <aidan> did i ping u??
[01:50] <soundray> aidan: it's considered bad manners to address support questions to someone who's not currently active.
[01:50] <aidan> and does xmms allow for mp3 playback
[01:50] <Stormx2> bash: ./dmg2iso.pl: /usr/local/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory <-- Suggestions? I don't know what to do. Running a .pl file
[01:50] <meal3837> I don't know what your talking about, for me, ping is a network tool
[01:51] <Stormx2> aidan: XMMS is old and outdated, and looks ugly
[01:51] <aidan> ok what should i use
[01:51] <meal3837> aidan: try amarok
[01:51] <Stormx2> Audacious
[01:51] <Stormx2> Which is like XMMS but good
[01:51] <soundray> Stormx2: find out where your perl binary really is, and edit dmg2iso.pl to reflect that location. (which perl)
[01:51] <Stormx2> soundray: Okay. How can I find where my perl binary is?
[01:51] <soundray> Stormx2: do you mean audacity?
[01:51] <soundray> Stormx2: I told you
[01:51] <soundray> which perl
[01:51] <meal3837> aidan: I also like listen audio player
[01:52] <aidan> so audacious play mp3
[01:52] <aidan> with out install codec?
[01:52] <Stormx2> soundray: Oh, haha, didn't see that
[01:52] <Stormx2> aidan: What? o.o
[01:52] <Stormx2> aidan: Do you want a command line player? if so try mpg321...
[01:53] <aidan> do u need to install a codec to listen to mp3 on audacious
[01:53] <christo> Guys, I don't have the 'Configuration Editor' under Applications -> System Tools.   Anybody know what package this is part of please ?
[01:53] <cwillu> odd request:  I want a task list/menu that pops up on a mouse short cut;  how would I do that?
[01:53] <aidan> no i want a good one lol like windows media plaer
[01:53] <meal3837> aidan:I agree with you, someone should write a converter that changes audio formats . . . it would make life lovely
[01:53] <cwillu> christo: alt+f2 and run gconf-editor brings it up
[01:53] <meal3837> WMP?!?!?!
[01:53] <koslow> hi alle zu sidux wechseln,besser gibts ja nix in der welt
[01:53] <meal3837> gag
[01:53] <cwillu> christo: it's in the menu, but hidden:  alacarte can unhide it
[01:53] <koslow> !sidux
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sidux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <aidan> well i am a windows user lol just trying this out to see if its better lol
[01:54] <christo> cwillu - thanks
[01:54] <meal3837> I'm pretty sure if any commercial media player should be compared to it's iTunes
[01:54] <koslow> ubotu see www.sidux.com
[01:54] <soundray> Wrong channel koslow (hast dich wohl verirrt)
[01:54] <cwillu> !mp3 | aidan
[01:54] <ubotu> aidan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:54] <aidan> done that been there
[01:54] <Pici> koslow : ubotu is a bot
[01:54] <cwillu> aidan: mp3's are easy to handle though;
[01:55] <koslow> is ok
[01:55] <aidan> umm i hav been trying all day dude
[01:55] <modulus> mmm
[01:55] <cwillu> aidan: have you install any packages?
[01:55] <aidan> ok wlak me though how to setup the codec think
[01:55] <cwillu> one sec
[01:55] <aidan> dont no how to
[01:55] <koslow> soundray ne wollte nur stimmung hier sehen
[01:55] <soundray> aidan: just close your "Add applications" and retry the apt-get install
[01:55] <modulus> is there any reason why a program might be using OSS instead of alsa? may i have misconf'ed something?
[01:55] <soundray> !de
[01:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:56] <cwillu> aidan: system|admin|synaptic, open that
[01:56] <aidan> okies
[01:56] <modulus> oy oy
[01:56] <cwillu> aidan: ctrl+f, type in gstreamer
[01:56] <soundray> cwillu: just let aidan finish what he's started
[01:56] <koslow> byby
[01:56] <hid3> Hello everyone. I accidently ran chown -R www-data:www-data /. Then I changed back all the ownership (according to my recent backup copy). However, when I try to `su`, it says Authentication failure. I'm still able to login as root directly. Is it possible somehow to solve this?
[01:57] <aidan> okcwillu
[01:57] <cwillu> oops, sorry, didn't notice anyone was talking to him soundray
[01:57] <aidan> cwillu
[01:57] <Laibsch> hid3: You want sudo not su
[01:57] <aidan> what now after typed in gstreamer
[01:58] <hid3> Laibsch: using sudo says something similar to 'you must be setuid'
[01:58] <soundray> aidan: if the install has worked, you should now be able to play mp3s with rhythmbox
[01:58] <vlt> Hello. I just replaced my AMD Athlon XP CPU with an AMD Athlon 64 X2, still running 2.6.15-27-k7 (now SMP). Why is CPU usage in `top` shown as INT only now? ...?
[01:58] <mbirkis> what does "bad PBR sig" meen?
[01:58] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-
[01:58] <aidan> Reading package lists... Done
[01:58] <aidan> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:58] <aidan> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10
[01:58] <aidan> aidan@ubuntu:~$
[01:59] <soundray> aidan: do not paste here
[01:59] <pbureau> hid3, system|administration|users and Groups|root| set password manually. then try again
[01:59] <aidan> god this is gay
[01:59] <cwillu> aidan: sounds like the line got cut off
[01:59] <aidan> well ok
[01:59] <mike1o> do i need the linux-386 package?
[01:59] <cwillu> aidan: it's just considered rude to post several lines of errors at a time (there's a site for that)
[01:59] <pbureau> hid3, I had something like it for somereason the password had been mangled, I reset it that way never had a problem afterwards
[01:59] <aidan> i am using 5.10?
[02:00] <meal3837> whoa
[02:00] <hid3> pbureau: how did you reset it?
[02:00] <meal3837> 5.10
[02:00] <pbureau> hid3, I just typed a new one :)
[02:00] <aidan> yeah 5.10 went to site to get recent one sent out to me but u have to pay
[02:00] <hid3> tried it, didn't help..
[02:00] <pbureau> aidan, in a terminal window type uname -r
[02:00] <soundray> mike1o: no
[02:01] <cwillu> aidan: you can download the latest if you can burn it yourself
[02:01] <mike1o> soundray: is it source?
[02:01] <cwillu> only have to pay to get the cd shipped to you
[02:01] <aidan> ok pbureasu
[02:01] <soundray> mike1o: no. 'apt-cache show linux-386' will tell you what it is.
[02:01] <meal3837> I had 6.06 shipped free when it was new
[02:01] <aidan> ok cwillu will do that laters
[02:01] <mike1o> soundray: its probably just a virtual package
[02:02] <aidan> done that pureau
[02:02] <meal3837> aidan, that might be the problem, if there are still repositories for 5.10, gstreamer10 probably won't be in them
[02:02] <aidan> ok
[02:03] <aidan> is there a version of gstremer i can get for it
[02:03] <aalhamad> how to make php running ?? --------------PLZ HELP--------
[02:03] <cwillu> aidan, others:  they had good bad and ugly back for 0.8, right?
[02:03] <Igor_V2> how can i convert .mp3 file to .ogg
[02:03] <cwillu> back in rather
[02:03] <meal3837> what I would probably recommend is go to help.ubuntu.com and follow the instructions for upgrading to 6.06 lts
[02:04] <aidan> well thjis comp hasnt got a burn
[02:04] <aidan> er
[02:04] <meal3837> you can upgrade w/o cd
[02:04] <modulus> net upgrade.
[02:04] <meal3837> yep
[02:04] <aidan> ok
[02:04] <meal3837> you can do it through apt
[02:04] <soundray> !mp32ogg | Igor_V2
[02:04] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:04] <modulus> it will take ages though.
[02:04] <cwillu> aidan: if you can see packages call gstreamer-0.8-plugins-ugly, that should do the trick;  otherwise, searching for mp3 and installing any gstreamer packages would work (although a bit ugly)
[02:05] <soundray> Igor_V2: it loses quality though
[02:05] <meal3837> instructions are all on the sight !dist-upgrade | aidan
[02:05] <meal3837> !mp32ogg
[02:05] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:05] <Laibsch> I am trying to install Xubuntu on an old computer.  I got the alternate CD but for some reason, the GUI won't come up.  I did get the command prompt.  Is there a command that will start the installation process?
[02:05] <Igor_V2> thanks soundray
[02:06] <modulus> afaik the alternate cd has no gui.
[02:06] <aidan> couldnt find gstreamer-0.8-plugins-ugly
[02:07] <soundray> Laibsch: try and hit return
[02:07] <cwillu> aidan: k, must be from a newer version as well
[02:08] <meal3837> !dist-upgrade
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <aidan> man ping cwillu http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gstreamer/
[02:08] <soundray> !upgrade
[02:08] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:08] <aidan> see on there and tell me what one to get
[02:08] <Stormx2> How would I go about recovering data recently deleteted on a FAT partition in ubuntu?
[02:08] <modulus> maybe cat the partition to a file?
[02:09] <modulus> then use an editor to look for it.
[02:09] <Laibsch> soundray: As expected, I get a newline with a new command prompt.  What command do I use now for starting installation?
[02:09] <Laibsch> !installation
[02:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:09] <Tessa_> Does anyone know how i can get detailed information about how much RAM is given to my onBoard Intel graphic card?
[02:09] <meal3837> aidan, are you ok with manual compilation?
[02:09] <aidan> lol i think i will be meal
[02:09] <meal3837> aidan, ok
[02:10] <soundray> Laibsch: what does that prompt look like?
[02:10] <Jowi> Tessa, look into you BIOS
[02:10] <modulus> maybe the free command would give you some idea too.
[02:11] <aidan> what should i do meal?
[02:11] <Tessa> Jowi: Let me be more precise. I entered an option "VideoRam 65443" in the xorg.conf and i would like to see if it works. So is there a way besides the BIOS?
[02:11] <Laibsch> soundray: ubuntu@ubtuntu:~$
[02:11] <meal3837> aidan, I'm checking around a bit
[02:11] <Jowi> Tessa, modulus is correct. "free -m" will give you current mem. deduct that total mem from what you know is in your machine.
[02:12] <soundray> Laibsch: strange, it should have booted into the installer. Does Alt-F1 change anything?
[02:12] <soundray> Laibsch: and were you asked to set your keyboard layout?
[02:12] <aidan> ok so can i download 6.10 version a .iso of it
[02:12] <aidan> and how would i go about extracinting it
[02:12] <modulus> yes, but you need a burner to use iso.
[02:12] <aidan> damiit
[02:13] <modulus> it's better imo to net upgrade.
[02:13] <meal3837> !upgrade | aidan
[02:13] <ubotu> aidan: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:13] <modulus> you can net upgrade without trouble, mostly.
[02:13] <Laibsch> soundray: I will just retry.  Hold on.
[02:13] <meal3837> just cahnge your sources.list
[02:13] <Tessa> Jowi: havin 1001 MB Ram of which 972 is used though i specified 64 for the graphic card to use seems to mean that the VideoRam option in the xorg.conf doesnt work, right?
[02:13] <soundray> Tessa: don't use the VideoRam option. It is not needed for recent integrated cards.
[02:13] <dusty-work> Hrmm, I have an ubuntu server, it has an onboard crappy nic and a pci gigabyte nic (which i am currently using) the onboard one  just sits there and does nothing, but looking through the logs I see lots of errors regarding this onboard nic eth1, is there a way to disable it or tell linux to ignore it as it is not going to be used?
[02:14] <Tessa> soundray: not? i read that without this option my intel card gets 32MB by default. i'd like to give it 64. any idea how to do this without VideoRam?
[02:14] <soundray> Tessa: the VideoRAM allocation of your BIOS cannot be changed after boot, so you have to use the BIOS setup
[02:14] <soundray> Tessa: where did you read that?
[02:14] <Tessa> soundray: ok thanks for that tip. i ll check the bios
[02:15] <Tessa> soundray: let me find the link
[02:15] <meal3837> aidan, go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:15] <mike1o> soundray: do u know any trick to show the debian menu?
[02:15] <Azul> wut up ma man
[02:15] <aidan> yeah
[02:15] <aidan> ill just do the mp3 codec
[02:15] <aidan> thing atm
[02:16] <Jowi> Tessa, not sure how accurate it is
[02:16] <soundray> dusty-work: you should disable your onboard NIC in the BIOS setup
[02:16] <tdn> I am trying to set up encrypted rootfs with LUKS. But I cannot boot. It says that no cryptfs is configured and then it waits for rootfs and I have to reboot...
[02:16] <Tessa> soundray: its a german entry in a linux forum. sort of a how to: http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?p=1490047
[02:16] <soundray> mike1o: no, sorry
[02:17] <aidan> ok meal found anythink bro
[02:17] <dusty-work> soundray: I can't its a production system.
[02:18] <meal3837> aidan, try looking for gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:18] <aidan> all of them
[02:18] <meal3837> and gstreamer0.8-lame
[02:19] <soundray> Tessa: I take it all back -- you should be okay with that VideoRam option. Search in /var/log/Xorg.0.log relating to the amount used.
[02:19] <Tessa> soundray: ok. thx!
[02:19] <YogSothoth> Hi
[02:19] <soundray> Tessa: sry ...for messages relating...
[02:19] <soundray> dusty-work: does that mean you can't reboot it?
[02:21] <cwillu> is there an easy way to put a keyboard shortcut on an applet?
[02:21] <aidan> ok meal
[02:22] <meal3837> aidan, what part of the country are you from?
[02:22] <aidan> downloading all the things
[02:22] <meal3837> just out of curiosity
[02:22] <aidan> Aussie land bro
[02:22] <meal3837> sweet
[02:22] <meal3837> I used to work with a guy who went by aidan online
[02:22] <aidan> ok
[02:22] <mojojojo__> hi. I'm wondering if I can do the following thing... If I want to delete a package this would delete this package, as well as as other packages required by this package only if those packages are not required by other packages
[02:23] <mojo_> was he born nadia?  j/k
[02:23] <aidan> ok meal got the package thingo
[02:23] <meal3837> ok
[02:23] <meal3837> type gst-register-0.8
[02:23] <soundray> mojojojo__: aptitude will track package dependencies in this way
[02:24] <Alpha232> when building a dpkg, if the build rules have multiple packages, is there a wya to tell dpkg-buildpackage to only build a specific one?
[02:24] <mojojojo__> so... I have a package A and it requires package B and C. packages B is used by package X and package C is not used by any other packages. So if I delete a package A, packages C will be delete but packages B will remain
[02:24] <aidan> ok mate done that
[02:24] <aidan> Rebuilding user_registry (/home/aidan/.gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml) ...
[02:24] <aidan> Loaded 149 plugins with 296 features.
[02:24] <meal3837> mojojojo_theoretically
[02:25] <Alpha232> mojojojo__: hopefully
[02:25] <meal3837> ok, give it a try and cross your fingers
[02:25] <soundray> mojojojo__: aptitude
[02:25] <aidan> lol i hope so
[02:25] <iMac600> I may give Ubuntu a boot-up between Mac OS X and Ubuntu PPC
[02:25] <Jowi> mojojojo__, yes. if you install with aptitude it will track it that way. you need to remove with aptitude as well though. don't think apg-get nor synaptic support it.
[02:25] <AlexLatchford> Anyone around to gimme a shove in the right direction on who to assign this bug to..
[02:25] <AlexLatchford> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/41849
[02:25] <AlexLatchford> woops, wrong channel
[02:25] <mojojojo__> ok, thx guys :)
[02:25] <Tessa> soundray: thx. /var/log/Xorg.0.log was the right place to look. I found it! thank you!
[02:26] <L4J> hello
[02:26] <soundray> Tessa: gern
[02:26] <Alpha232> ubuntu
[02:26] <aidan> meal
[02:26] <Alpha232> gack
[02:26] <aidan> came up withj
[02:26] <meal3837> aidan, don't hate me if it doesn't work
[02:26] <Alpha232> lol ;)
[02:26] <aidan> foolowing items couldnt be loaded
[02:26] <aidan> nah i wont mate
[02:26] <meal3837> k
[02:26] <mojojojo__> Jowi, is it by default?
[02:26] <zyth> Hi, I'm having a weird issue in Wine regedit.  When I make a new key, it's named New Key #1, but I can't rename it
[02:27] <meal3837> which items?
[02:27] <L4J> i am new to ubuntu.. and had some question =)
[02:27] <aidan> this is way better the ubuntuforus
[02:27] <aidan> ok the file is not an audio strem
[02:27] <meal3837> what player are you using?
[02:27] <soundray> aidan: you're very lucky to have found someone as patient as meal3837
[02:27] <Jowi> mojojojo__, yes
[02:28] <mojojojo__> cool :)
[02:28] <soundray> !ask | L4J
[02:28] <ubotu> L4J: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:28] <meal3837> soundray, I'm only patient because I'm almost always lost
[02:28] <L4J> oh sorry. lol
[02:28] <aidan> yeah im really lost lol
[02:28] <L4J> Can I use both ubuntu and windows interchangebly on one pc?
[02:29] <IdleOne> L4J: yes
[02:29] <meal3837> aidan, which player are you using?
[02:29] <soundray> L4J: yes, it's called dualbooting
[02:29] <soundray> !dualboot | L4J
[02:29] <ubotu> L4J: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:29] <aidan> tryed rythembox and the gtkpod
[02:29] <iMac600> No catches on the ShipIt CD's?
[02:29] <meal3837> and they didn't work?
[02:29] <IdleOne> iMac600: catches?
[02:29] <aidan> no:(
[02:29] <iMac600> just any costs to Australia or something
[02:30] <meal3837> do you have totem-xine?
[02:30] <aidan> no
[02:30] <IdleOne> iMac600: they are free. some countries you may need to pay taxes or something like that but no catches
[02:30] <iMac600> ok
[02:30] <iMac600> thanks
[02:30] <meal3837> install it from apt
[02:30] <meal3837> and try that
[02:31] <Jowi> aidan, xmms is usually pretty good for streams. I use it with streamtuner to listen to radio.
[02:31] <IdleOne> Jowi: same here :0
[02:31] <IdleOne> :)
[02:31] <gabspeck> hi.. how do i configure the keyboard on my ubuntu edgy server (ie no GUI at all)?
[02:32] <soundray> gabspeck: do you mean the layout?
[02:32] <Jowi> aidan, I found that totem and rhythmbox (uses gstreamer) lacking in that area
[02:32] <IdleOne> iMac600: you do have to sign over your first born son after installation but becides that you should be ok with Shippit :)
[02:32] <meal3837> gabspeck, hit it with a hammer . . . or two
[02:33] <gabspeck> weirdly, the layout seems to be correct, it recognizes the  key... but the key with the / and ? isn't recognized at all
[02:33] <meal3837> aidan, hate to leave ya hangin, but I have to get ready for class
[02:33] <aidan> its k
[02:33] <soundray> gabspeck: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[02:33] <aidan> cya in here next time
[02:33] <meal3837> yeah
[02:33] <maxx18> hey guys the screensavers are not working for me... the preview works fine but after i select one it still just shows a blank screen for my screensaver... any suggestions?
[02:34] <IdleOne> maxx18: did you check the box to activate screensaver ?
[02:34] <maxx18> IdleOne, yup i sure did
[02:35] <soundray> maxx18: check that your display isn't sleeping before the screensaver comes on. System-Preferences-Power Management
[02:35] <gabspeck> soundray: it's weird, i selected ABNT2, but that specific key does not work at all
[02:35] <maxx18> soundray, should be fine... screensaver comes on after 1 minute, display goes to sleep after 5 mins
[02:36] <soundray> gabspeck: hardware failure -- try another keyboard?
[02:36] <Dawei> Um... hi ppl. Sorry to be terribly foolish and nooby, but what do I enter as a Make rule to compile c sources?
[02:36] <soundray> maxx18: does the Preview button work?
[02:36] <gabspeck> no, i'm sure this one works, it's brand new and was working before i installed ubuntu
[02:37] <maxx18> soundray, yes preview works fine
[02:38] <Mba7eth> hi all
[02:38] <Dawei> Can someone help me with the "make" command? I'm attempting to install CDemu.
[02:38] <riotkittie> Dawei: uhm.
[02:38] <soundray> maxx18: I'm out of ideas then
[02:38] <Dawei> I can't find what to enter as the "rule to make target"
[02:38] <aidan> YESSS !!!!
[02:39] <name> Dawei: did you ./configure?
[02:39] <riotkittie> Dawei: did you ./configure
[02:39] <name> riotkittie: ha-ha, faster ;P
[02:39] <Mba7eth> guys i cant control the sound system once realplayer is up also the can't control the sound from realplayer itself ..... anyidea gents?
[02:39] <maxx18> soundray, damn.. well thanks for trying... i might post on the forums
[02:39] <riotkittie> name:  i noticed <cries>
[02:39] <gabspeck> soundray: is there any file i can edit manually to set up the keyboard?
[02:39] <Dawei> No...
[02:39] <`underOATH> what do i have to install to be able to compile things
[02:39] <Dawei> Yeah, what he said!
[02:39] <name> gcc g++
[02:39] <riotkittie> Dawei: well, ./configure :P
[02:40] <IdleOne> `underOATH: build-essential
[02:40] <`underOATH> kk thanks IdleOne
[02:40] <Dawei> Okay thanks ppl.
[02:40] <riotkittie> `underOATH: bu... ahh hi give up
[02:40] <riotkittie> err ah i
[02:40] <`underOATH> riotkittie: uhhhhhh what?
[02:40] <soundray> gabspeck: there are a series of files that determine keyboard behaviour, but it's very complex... give me a minute pls
[02:40] <riotkittie> i should just alias everything :x
[02:40] <IdleOne> lol riotkittie want we should ask if you know before we give the answer :P
[02:40] <Dawei> Obviously to all.... I'm new to linux.
[02:40] <gabspeck> ok
[02:40] <riotkittie> `underOATH: uhh nothing. :P
[02:40] <frogzoo> gabspeck: look into xmodmap & xev
[02:40] <`underOATH> lol
[02:41] <Dawei> But determined to learn.
[02:41] <riotkittie> IdleOne: yes, so i can feel smrt.  its all about meeeee.
[02:41] <`underOATH> it's been so long since i've used linux
[02:41] <frogzoo> `underOATH: then get ready for a shock
[02:41] <IdleOne> `underOATH: it's a little unofficial #ubuntu game person to give answer first gets a point ( there is never a winner or an end to the game but always fun )
[02:41] <soundray> gabspeck: start 'showkey' and check whether /? generates any keycodes
[02:41] <IdleOne> k riotkittie :)
[02:41] <`underOATH> IdleOne: are you in the leader :P
[02:42] <riotkittie> ok because i cant answer questions, i will ask one.
[02:42] <soundray> frogzoo: gabspeck is on server - no GUI
[02:42] <IdleOne> `underOATH: very far from lead
[02:42] <IdleOne> !offtopic > IdleOne
[02:42] <gabspeck> yes, 0x59 0xd9
[02:42] <name> !offtopic > name
[02:42] <frogzoo> soundray: kk
[02:43] <IdleOne> riotkittie: ask!
[02:43] <`underOATH> anyone know about installing good services to a beware ircd?
[02:44] <frogzoo> gabspeck: showkey -s   & setkeycodes
[02:44] <soundray> gabspeck: so it's working, but not showing the characters on the console... can you try with emacs21?
[02:44] <aalhamad> to remove a full apache..
[02:44] <logikon> double on
[02:44] <aalhamad> the comand is remove??
[02:44] <logikon> /window swap 2
[02:44] <logikon> /window double on
[02:44] <logikon> ops
[02:44] <logikon> :(
[02:44] <gabspeck> soundray: emacs21?
[02:44] <IdleOne> `underOATH: the ircd website should have services modules for the ircd
[02:45] <aalhamad> to fully remove  apache2 from the entire system.. i go remove apache?
[02:45] <soundray> gabspeck: if you haven't got it installed, never mind.
[02:45] <soundray> gabspeck: by the way, did you set "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC"?
[02:45] <Dawei> Whats the easiest way to create virtual cd drives? any options other than CDemu?
[02:46] <soundray> Dawei: it's not necessary to install anything
[02:46] <soundray> Dawei: just 'mount -o loop file.iso /mnt'
[02:46] <IdleOne> is it possible to create a virtual 500gig HDD? :)
[02:46] <Dawei> Yeah, but what about non-iso files?
[02:47] <Dawei> E.g. bin/cue, mdf/mds, nrg?
[02:47] <gabspeck> soundray: it's set as Brazilian ABNT2, which is what it really is. i tried to select generic 105 with dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, but it doesn't seem to change anything (ie, when i run it again the default selection is still ABNT2)
[02:47] <soundray> Dawei: you have to conver those
[02:47] <Dawei> Oh.
[02:47] <soundray> *convert
[02:48] <soundray> IdleOne: sure, you need a 750GB physical drive though ;)
[02:48] <IdleOne> soundray: :P well thats not gonna work out then
[02:48] <erlingre> t
[02:49] <soundray> gabspeck: did you go through the whole reconfigure process to the end?
[02:50] <gabspeck> yes
[02:50] <IdleOne> soundray: I dont know what I would do with 750GB prolly get into alot of trouble lol
[02:50] <yomm>
[02:51] <whyameye> how can I get firefox to show me the list of installed extensions?
[02:51] <`underOATH> IdleOne: they do, i just don't get how to use em so im asking for help lol
[02:51] <soundray> IdleOne: we have a 1.5TB RAID at work, and I've been reprimanded for using almost a third of it...
[02:51] <kbrosnan> whyameye: tools -> extensions or tools -> addons
[02:52] <bauer77> I have 1 terabyte and it gets me in trouble
[02:52] <bauer77> hehe
[02:52] <IdleOne> `underOATH: I am guessing there is a modules/scripts folder you would put them in and then in the server.conf file you would need to enable/load the service
[02:52] <whyameye> kbrosnan: there's no option for addons there that I see...
[02:52] <kristianlm> hello everyone! does anyone have a good suggestion on how you can monitor hard disk access, like which process is constantly accessing my harddisk?
[02:53] <yomm> i just installed a 1TB RAID5 in my home server :)
[02:53] <IdleOne> soundray: mp3's?
[02:53] <kbrosnan> whyameye: then tools -> extensions if you are running firefox 1.5
[02:53] <jahid> hi, my ubuntu became stucked, and i had to restart my machine. now after restarting the ubuntu is started in console mode. how can i resolve and move to graphical mode?
[02:53] <soundray> IdleOne: no, 3D images of brains ;)
[02:53] <whyameye> kbrosnan: that's not showing plugins.
[02:53] <IdleOne> soundray: cool
[02:53] <yomm> jahid u using ubuntu 6 ?
[02:53] <IdleOne> jahid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:54] <jahid> yomm, yes 6.10
[02:54] <whyameye> kbrosnan: I know there's something I can type in the address bar to see all of this...but can't remember what it is
[02:54] <yomm> try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:54] <kbrosnan> whyameye: plugins are completely different from extensions, for a list of plugins type about:plugins in the address bar
[02:54] <whyameye> kbrosnan: found it! about:plugins
[02:55] <barosl> kubuntu doesn't make ".desktop" file!
[02:55] <barosl> any solution?
[02:56] <jahid> youmm, after using "/etc/init.d/gdm start" i and got a message "coudlnt start X server, due to some internal error, communicate ur system administrator or check your syslog to diagnose. In the meantime this display will be disabled. Please restart gdm when the problem is corrected"
[02:56] <dyrne> barosl: /j kubuntu  :)
[02:56] <yomm> jahid , then try the dpkg-reconfigure Idleone suggested before !
[02:57] <barosl> ah i c
[02:57] <jahid> IdleOne, I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure-xorg-server" but it says "command no found"
[02:57] <suzi> hi
[02:57] <IdleOne> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:57] <IdleOne> jahid: ^^^
[02:57] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <Pici> jahid : are you in single user mode?
[02:57] <yomm> defrysk is right
[02:57] <defrysk> of course I am ;p
[02:57] <IdleOne> oops
[02:58] <yomm> tlol
[02:58] <IdleOne> jahid: sorry about that command I was wrong there :/
[02:58] <jahid> IdleOne, i tried all you said but it says the same
[02:58] <suzi> does anyone know how to get automatix for ubuntu 5.10
[02:58] <jahid> Pici, yes i m single user mode
[02:58] <yomm> jahid : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <thunderstruck> !automatix | suzi
[02:58] <ubotu> suzi: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:59] <IdleOne> jahid: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg like this defrysk  had it right
[02:59] <suzi> thanx thunderstruck
[03:00] <yomm> all hail defrysk :p
[03:00] <_DREAM_> .
[03:01] <jahid> yomm, i tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it says "command not found"
[03:01] <yomm> jahid : with sudo ?
[03:01] <jahid> infact sudo is not working. bocz machine logged me in as root. the prompt is like "root@jahid-desktop"
[03:02] <`underOATH> how can you find out which ircd an irc server uses
[03:02] <yomm> ok i c !
[03:02] <suzi> whats sudo?
[03:02] <suzi> !sudo
[03:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:02] <Pici> I dont think that trying to reconfigure the xserver will help, hes in single user mode.  I think the computer booted him there to manually fsck his drive
[03:02] <`underOATH> suzi: sudo is the command you can run to make the computer run as an admin
[03:02] <aalhamad> How can i REMOVE apache2 and apach from my entire system???
[03:02] <IdleOne> `underOATH: look in the status/server window of your irc client usualy near the top of the page it says
[03:02] <aalhamad> How can i REMOVE apache2 and apach from my entire system??? ... plzzz help
[03:02] <yomm> Pici : u could be right
[03:02] <Pici> aalhamad : apt-get remove apache apache2
[03:03] <aalhamad> thanks..
[03:03] <aalhamad> remove it completly..
[03:03] <jahid> and if i try with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" it says "sudo:command not found"
[03:03] <aalhamad> like i have to download it again rihgt??
[03:03] <`underOATH> IdleOne: you know everything
[03:03] <jahid> Pici, how can i fix that?
[03:03] <IdleOne> `underOATH: no I dont
[03:04] <Pici> jahid : did you try rebooting again?
[03:04] <aalhamad> Pici, remove it complety like i have to download it again right??
[03:04] <yomm> jahid: before rebooting , did the machine crash ?
[03:04] <Pici> aalhamad : you'll need to do an apt-get clean to remove any cached downloaded files too
[03:04] <jahid> yomm, my machine didnt crash. it just got stucked. then i pressed "Alt+Ctrl+Delete" more then one time and the PC restarted
[03:04] <yomm> Pici: he prob needs to fix whateva brought hum into su mode in the first place no ?
[03:05] <lipe> i would like to know how can i compile files .java ... please !!
[03:05] <aalhamad> ok thanks..
[03:05] <yomm> jahid: then try rebooting
[03:06] <jahid> yomm, what is the command to reboot from terminal?
[03:06] <grndslm> hello all, i'm having a little trouble getting the svn compilation started...complains about autoconf, and more likely some missing libraries??  something about LIBTOOL...anyway, i've installed all the dependcies listed in the README and on the website...here's my error(s):  http://pastebin.ca/335626
[03:06] <lipe> i would like to know how can i compile files .java and run it ...... please !!
[03:06] <jahid> what is the command to reboot from console?
[03:07] <Balsamic_Chicken> hey guys need help pls, how do u spell deteriate? spell check says i have it wrong, no idea how to correct it
[03:07] <Pici> jahid : reboot
[03:07] <lipe> i would like to know how can i compile files .java and run it ...... please !!
[03:07] <yomm> jahid : shutdown -r now
[03:07] <Pici> !patience | lipe
[03:07] <ubotu> lipe: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:07] <yomm> or reboot :)
[03:08] <Pici> lipe : java <filename.java>
[03:08] <lipe> Pici; sorry
[03:08] <covOPprometheus> can anyone tell me how to downgrade an app? (beryl in this case)
[03:08] <aalhamad> Pici,  when i clean i go just clean or clean apache apache2??
[03:08] <IdleOne> Balsamic_Chicken: deteriorate ?
[03:09] <NaPsTeR> is there any way i can sync my pocket pc with ubuntu?
[03:09] <lipe> Pici:  thx u very much my friend
[03:10] <seravitae> Hi there, I have followed the ubuntu guide for compiling kernels. I have followed it exactly and yet when i go to make kpkg-clean i get the following result: http://pastebin.com/872738 <-- can anyone please tell me how I can fix this?
[03:10] <defrysk> why compile a kernel ?
[03:10] <slacker_nl> why wouldn't you compile your own kernel?
[03:10] <NaPsTeR> does anyone know how 2 sync a ppc with ubuntu
[03:11] <LvanderRee> NaPsTeR have you seen this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936&highlight=pocketpc
[03:11] <defrysk> cos there is no need ?
[03:11] <slacker_nl> defrysk: if you say so
[03:11] <seravitae> defrysk: because i need to.
[03:11] <LvanderRee> why downgrade beryl?
[03:11] <defrysk> sure
[03:12] <daviey> LvanderRee, because the latest is borked for xgl
[03:12] <IdleOne> !kernel > slacker_nl
[03:12] <slacker_nl> IdleOne: I don't need that
[03:12] <alkko> Why doesn't root password change when i do 'sudo passwd root'? Everything goes well, but the changes doesn't take action.
[03:12] <erUSUL> seravitae: it seems that the 'sources' have an error in one of the directories... maybe a corrupt source tree?
[03:13] <erUSUL> !root | alkko
[03:13] <ubotu> alkko: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:13] <lipe> how can i put colors in vim ?! please ...
[03:13] <IdleOne> slacker_nl: k then
[03:13] <seravitae> erUSUL: well im following the exact ubuntu guide...
[03:13] <daviey> alkko, just do sudo passwd (that'll do root)
[03:13] <slacker_nl> lipe: :color koehler
[03:13] <slacker_nl> :syntax enable
[03:13] <alkko> ok
[03:14] <seravitae> erUSUL: i also found a forum post where someone said they 'removed the offending bit' and it gave another error about main.io or something - if i do a 'make' without the kpkg bit, i get that same main.io result.
[03:14] <seravitae> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[03:14] <LvanderRee> daviey, ah I see, I had ones trouble with dbus and beryl, thought maybe that was it, because I knew how to solve that
[03:14] <lipe> slacker_nl: what is it ?? a software !?
[03:15] <slacker_nl> lipe: put those lines in your .vimrc
[03:15] <erUSUL> seravitae: what can isay have you tried with vanilla sources? (the ones in kernel.org) keep in mind that they do not come with as many drivers as the ubuntu sources...
[03:15] <slacker_nl> and start up vim (eg vim bla.php)
[03:15] <lipe> slacker_nl: ohhh thx u very much !!
[03:15] <seravitae> erUSUL: these *are* the kernel sources from apt-get ubuntu repository.
[03:15] <slacker_nl> the color koehler is a color scheme
[03:15] <daviey> LvanderRee, well i'm getting "WARNING **: Beryl caught deadly signal 11"
[03:15] <seravitae> erUSUL: oh, right. okay ill try that.
[03:15] <ConstyXIV> that aint good
[03:15] <slacker_nl> and the syntax enable is for syntax highlighting
[03:16] <Balsamic_Chicken> IdleOne thx
[03:16] <seravitae> wait im confused
[03:16] <pbureau> Question : I am performing ./configure on Gnome-Network-Manager 0.6.4 during the configuration part I get this message, everythign else ends well I am just curious if I am missing something that could be critical ? or just being a worry-wort.? error message "hecking dynamic linker characteristics... cat: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf: No such file or directory GNU/Linux ld.so" ..
[03:16] <IdleOne> Balsamic_Chicken: was I right>?
[03:16] <seravitae> should i be "making" in linux-headers or linux-source?
[03:16] <lipe> slacker_nl: where is this file, please !?
[03:16] <LvanderRee> daviey, sorry don't know anything about that
[03:16] <Balsamic_Chicken> IdleOne yeah, i jsut didn't think to use spell check correction featur, don't know why
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> pbureau: is there a reason youre trying to compile it?
[03:17] <slacker_nl> lipe, vi ~/.vimrc
[03:17] <slacker_nl> if its not there, create it, otherwise you can just edit it
[03:17] <IdleOne> Balsamic_Chicken: i took a wild guess at it :) glad I could help
[03:17] <pbureau> ConstyXIV, something to do ? since aptget only have 0.6.3
[03:17] <yomm> sera : I think headers...
[03:17] <grndslm> i've got this problem with beryl svn...  i have installed all known dependencies but it still complains about autoconf or more likely some missing library that i overlooked or was left out of the docs??  something about LIBTOOL...anyway, here's my error(s):  http://pastebin.ca/335626
[03:17] <NaPsTeR> how can i synchronise my sony ericsson w800i?
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> pbureau: 0.6.3 works just fine.  this isin't gentoo.  we try to make our software stable. :)
[03:18] <lipe> slacker_nl: thx u very much
[03:18] <slacker_nl> lipe: www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/ubuntu/.vimrc (that's mine)
[03:18] <yomm> omg gentoo bashing
[03:18] <KillerT> omg
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> not bashing really
[03:18] <pbureau> ConstyXIV,  wow a linux user that says, dontcompile your own software.... lol intresting...
[03:18] <yomm> t:p
[03:18] <pbureau> ConstyXIV, anyways... wont stop me front trying to
[03:19] <slacker_nl> same as.. don't compile your own kernel ;)
[03:19] <NaPsTeR> i have a sony ericsson w800i(my cellphone) how can i sync it with ubuntu?
[03:19] <Pici> grndslm : you do know that there are beryl svn binary repositories, right?
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> this is a linux user that likes stuff to work oob, unlike windows
[03:19] <bauer77> Anyone using Terminal Server Client and experiencing issue with it getting a "reconnect error message"?
[03:19] <grndslm> Pici:  i always feel that i'm not of help to the devs when i complain about bugs because they're always fixed in the svn and replaced with newer features and different bugs
[03:19] <bauer77> I go to connect and it just hangs
[03:20] <Pici> grndslm : understood
[03:20] <lipe> slacker_nl: ok, but it doesnt't work, only the "~" changed the color not the words ...
[03:20] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: does it run any sort of smartphone os?
[03:20] <NaPsTeR> no
[03:21] <KillerT> There is no reason to compile ur own sources anymore unless u just want to tweak tweak and more tweak it is really not necessary for most common computer hardware. Saying that gentoo is for strong enthusiasts or professional.
[03:21] <NaPsTeR> but it comes with software to sync with windows
[03:21] <defrysk> pbureau, if you insist on a later version, set up de deb sources of feisty, do a apt-get build dep <package> then fakeroot apt-source -b <package>
[03:21] <seravitae> erUSUL: heheh. i accidently ln -s linux-headers to linux. my bad :P changed it to linux sources.
[03:21] <AlivesWrk> how do i see a list of the packages currently installed?
[03:21] <NaPsTeR> so now i need to sync with linux but dont know how
[03:22] <aalhamad> how to start apache2 .. whats the command line??
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: what's the phones software on windows?
[03:22] <erUSUL> seravitae: ;)
[03:22] <AlivesWrk> aalhamad: apachectl start
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> aalhamad: /etc/init.d/apache start
[03:22] <AlivesWrk> that too
[03:22] <yomm> Napster have u checked their webbie for linux drivers ?
[03:22] <AngryElf_> is apt-get capable of reverting to an older version of something easily?
[03:22] <NaPsTeR> its some sonyericsson software
[03:22] <grndslm> AlivesWrk:  dpkg -l
[03:22] <erUSUL> seravitae: this time the bug was between the chair and the monitor ;)
[03:23] <yomm> although i doubt that there will be linux drivers ...
[03:23] <AlivesWrk> thx
[03:23] <seravitae> hehe yeah, PEBCAK.
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: given we're talking about sony here, you're probably SOL.
[03:23] <seravitae> the guide wasn't too clear on that bit.
[03:23] <pbureau> uncle, I realize now I should of never mentioned "compiling" in this channel.....
[03:23] <NaPsTeR> SOL.?
[03:23] <pbureau> <goes and looks for programing channel
[03:23] <Pici> grndslm : Okay, this is a reach, but if you have installed libtool, try setting the env variable LIBTOOL to its location
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: sore out of luck
[03:23] <NaPsTeR> that sux
[03:23] <defrysk> pbureau, I gave you a howto ;)
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: you could set up windows in vmware and do it like that...
[03:24] <NaPsTeR> i dont want any trace oif windows
[03:24] <yomm> isn't is possible to sync devices like ipod & cellphone through vmare -windows
[03:24] <NaPsTeR> i hate it
[03:24] <pbureau> defrysk,  yeah I installed feisty that thing is more buggy than windows ME
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> yomm: yes
[03:24] <yomm> isn't is possible to sync devices like ipod & cellphone through vmware running windows ?
[03:24] <yomm> sry 4 rep
[03:24] <defrysk> pbureau, yI told you how to compile a package from feisty for your version
[03:24] <yomm> napster : heard that ?
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> i would have to for my phone if i didnt have a windows box around (samsung i500 palm)
[03:25] <pbureau> defrysk, working on it ;)
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> wat?
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> the vmware thing
[03:25] <NaPsTeR> ?
[03:25] <grndslm> Pici:  i didn't have libtool installed...doh!
[03:25] <grndslm> it's working fine now
[03:25] <yomm> about syncing devices on vmware
[03:25] <yomm> yes
[03:25] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: what vmware does is it installs windows or another os in a sandbox, but it can still talk to things like your cell phone
[03:26] <skar> hi, when i copy a URL using Ctrl+C and using Shift+Insert in gedit, i get a different data(which was selected using mouse), if i use mouse right click+paste, i get the url
[03:26] <grndslm> Pici:  so any time i get an error like that...that's prolly the missing library?
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> i know
[03:26] <skar> how do i solve this clip board confusion!?!
[03:26] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: or you could write your own drivers :)
[03:26] <Pici> grndslm : Usually, yes.
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> but i dont want windws at all
[03:26] <kittyhawk> hello
[03:26] <[H4z3] > w00t... finally
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> would wine work
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> haha
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> i can bearly do graphics in java
[03:26] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: i dont think so, but you could try
[03:26] <NaPsTeR> i barely know any programming
[03:27] <kittyhawk> my wireless network card doesn't work with the latest kernel that apt installed for me
[03:27] <kittyhawk> so I've been booting into the 2.6.15
[03:27] <dyrne> NaPsTeR: run osx then in vmware :)
[03:28] <kittyhawk> but now I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, and I can't figure out how to install the kernel-source for the version I'm runnin
[03:28] <kittyhawk> can anyone help?
[03:28] <skar> no one knows about this clip board confusion where in the data i copied isn't pasted while a previously copied stuff is pasted?
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: does it show up as a flash drive or anything when you plug it in?
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: or better, does it have some sort of media slot?
[03:28] <NaPsTeR> i dunno where to get a copy of osx
[03:28] <skar> and no data at all is pasted at times
[03:28] <NaPsTeR> it has a memory card slot
[03:28] <NaPsTeR> y?
[03:28] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: try dumping your music on it's memory card
[03:29] <[Wiebel] > if mplayer (or whatever movie player) shows lines on video with high speed imaging. Is this a driver issue?
[03:29] <[Wiebel] > using -vo xv
[03:29] <mike1o> !service
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <NaPsTeR> i can do that
[03:29] <NaPsTeR> already done it many times
[03:30] <[Wiebel] > same with -vo gl
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: do you have some sort of pc memorystick adapter?
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> [Wiebel] : have you tried every movie player you have?
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: that's your best route
[03:30] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: you can use banshee to put music on flash disks like that
[03:30] <[Wiebel] > ConstyXIV: well I tried a few yes
[03:30] <[Wiebel] > same issue
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > video output doesnt seem to matter
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > x11/xv/gl
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > same lines
[03:31] <ConstyXIV> [Wiebel] : can you try the same on windows, or with different hardware?
[03:31] <NaPsTeR> but i just plugged in my phone and then i copied the music to the removable drive
[03:31] <NaPsTeR> it worked
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > different hardware is better
[03:31] <NaPsTeR> so it picks it up
[03:31] <[Wiebel] > it a p3 laptop with a s3 savage card
[03:32] <[Wiebel] > it's
[03:32] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: try this: find the Text Editor
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> does that mean i can just use multisync or summing like that?
[03:32] <[Wiebel] > and I have no windows
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> k
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> then?
[03:32] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: or better, follow this http://banshee-project.org/Guide/DAPs/MassStorageDevices
[03:32] <NaPsTeR> but i dont want to put music on
[03:33] <dude_1939> Hey guys, Where can I get information about the next release of Ubuntu?
[03:33] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: oh
[03:33] <dmitri> hy i am trying to  mount -t vfat /media/windows/ /dev/hda5 and i get this error: mount: /media/windows/ is not a block device
[03:33] <NaPsTeR> i want to sync my numbers and stuff
[03:33] <ConstyXIV> i think you are sol then
[03:33] <IdleOne> dude_1939: www.ubuntu.com
[03:33] <Jowi> dmitri, but /dev before /media
[03:33] <^Wildstar^> dmitri: you have to try with the /dev device
[03:33] <dmitri> how?
[03:33] <dyrne> dude_1939: you can also /join ubuntu+1
[03:34] <^Wildstar^> do an ls /dev
[03:34] <Pici> dmitri : reverse the arguments
[03:34] <Jowi> dmitri, mount -t vfat /dev/hda5 /media/windows
[03:34] <NaPsTeR> so
[03:34] <ConstyXIV> dmitri: what Jowi said
[03:34] <NaPsTeR> wat do i do?
[03:34] <mr__> ligamagic
[03:34] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: not much
[03:34] <NaPsTeR> y?
[03:34] <dmitri> then i get this error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
[03:34] <yomm> anyone know what the command for the "Thunar Bulk Renamer" is ??
[03:34] <yomm> so I can sudo it :)
[03:34] <dmitri> Jowi:
[03:35] <Pici> dmitri : what fs type is /dev/hda5 ?
[03:35] <NaPsTeR> how can i sync it?
[03:35] <dmitri> win32
[03:35] <Jowi> yomm, "thunar -B"
[03:35] <Pici> dmitri : Thats OS, not the FS
[03:35] <yomm> u da man Jowi :)
[03:35] <Pici> dmitri : is it fat32, fat16, ntfs?
[03:35] <dmitri> hidden w95 fat32
[03:35] <kittyhawk> hello
[03:35] <White_Lightning> how do I change the splash screen background color? the brown clashes with the blue and black backgrounds I use
[03:36] <IdleOne> NaPsTeR: have you tried checking out the phones website and see if the have a linuc version of that sync software?
[03:36] <IdleOne> linux8
[03:36] <IdleOne> ERR
[03:36] <dmitri> Pici escuse me fat32
[03:36] <Jowi> !splash | White_Lightning
[03:36] <ubotu> White_Lightning: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:36] <White_Lightning> why thank you mr. bot, but I've already done that
[03:37] <White_Lightning> I want to change the backcolor
[03:37] <White_Lightning> lol
[03:37] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: http://stefans.datenbruch.de/k750i/
[03:37] <ConstyXIV> NaPsTeR: try that
[03:37] <White_Lightning> !ubot ubot
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot ubot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <Pici> dmitri : is it possible that theres a problem with the drive?
[03:37] <Jowi> White_Lightning, it is an image. you can't change just the background color
[03:37] <White_Lightning> he's having an identity crisis
[03:37] <White_Lightning> yeah that's what I figured
[03:37] <White_Lightning> if I created a full size image it would cover it up though correct?
[03:38] <IdleOne> White_Lightning: ubotu knows about ubotu  but not about ubot try /msg ubotu bot
[03:38] <dmitri> Pici what problem?
[03:38] <White_Lightning> oh I misspelled it
[03:38] <White_Lightning> !ubotu
[03:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:39] <yomm>  ubotu is our friend !
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is our friend ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <morgWork> anyone know offhand how to get evolution to handle attachements sanely (i.e. use OOo to open doc files, rather than just the save option). Nautilus opens the files with the correct app. (full disclosure: I'm running kubuntu)
[03:39] <White_Lightning> lol
[03:39] <White_Lightning> ubotu likes pizza
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about likes pizza - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <White_Lightning> woah maybe not
[03:40] <IdleOne> !botabuse
[03:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:40] <White_Lightning> !bcm43xx
[03:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:41] <yomm> uiopuiop
[03:41] <kittyhawk> greetings
[03:42] <kittyhawk> I'm having a heck of a time getting the nvidia drivers to load.  Can anyone help?
[03:42] <xpoint> how do i dist upgrade from horay to later ubuntu dist ?
[03:42] <ConstyXIV> is there anyway to keep nautilus from popping up when I put in a flashdrive?
[03:43] <Pici> dmitri : a bad superblock indicates that theres an issue reading from the drive.  You can try running dosfsck to find/fix errors, but in my experience this sometimes leads to futher corrupting the data
[03:43] <Pici> !upgrade | xpoint
[03:43] <ubotu> xpoint: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:43] <Innoruuk> Consty: Edit Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media
[03:43] <ConstyXIV> xpoint: sudo (text editor here) /etc/apt/sources.list, change hoary to dapper or edgy or whatever, then sudo apt-get update, sudo aptitude upgrade
[03:44] <Jowi> ConstyXIV, not to recommend.
[03:44] <Innoruuk> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:44] <Innoruuk> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/universe/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:44] <Innoruuk> Anyone else getting these on apt-get update?
[03:45] <Jowi> ConstyXIV, hoary upgrades fine to breezy but not directly to later versions. too many probs :)
[03:45] <ConstyXIV> Innoruuk: just fine here
[03:45] <dmitri> Pici it doesn't maeter i just formated that drive
[03:46] <Innoruuk> My sources.list seems just fine, don't know a fix for that if any.
[03:46] <ConstyXIV> Innoruuk: id make sure it says edgy instead of egdy-proposed
[03:47] <_raphael_> will edgy ever have the nvidia 1.0-9xxx drivers?
[03:47] <Pici> dmitri : try sudo dosfsck /dev/devicename -a    This will automatically attempt to fix any issues with the drive, you can then try to mount it
[03:47] <Innoruuk> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed universe main multiverse restricted
[03:47] <IdleOne> xpoint: it is not recommended to leap frog release when upgrading from apt
[03:47] <Innoruuk> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[03:48] <Innoruuk> That's what's giving me errors.
[03:48] <ConstyXIV> _raphael_: ubuntu tends to stay pretty solid on software versions between releases
[03:48] <ConstyXIV> _raphael_: in other words, wait till feisty
[03:49] <n2diy> ! DCOP
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DCOP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <dmitri> Pici I get this Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 21.
[03:49] <dmitri> :(
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> !dbus
[03:49] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> !dcop
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <ConstyXIV> ?
[03:49] <MisticMcil> Can someone help me with an ATI card install?
[03:50] <IdleOne> !ati | MisticMcil
[03:50] <ubotu> MisticMcil: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <Pici> dmitri : try just fsck -a /dev/devicename
[03:50] <MisticMcil> I done it by the ATI wiki, but it never loads the driver.
[03:50] <chinmy> d
[03:50] <chinmy> halo
[03:50] <IdleOne> hello chinmy
[03:51] <dyrne> MisticMcil: with that youll probably have more luck searching ubuntuforums.org for your card. usually step by step instructions
[03:51] <chinmy> my first time use ubuntu
[03:51] <IdleOne> welcome chinmy
[03:51] <ConstyXIV> would anyone know if MSO2007 works on wine?
[03:51] <dyrne> MisticMcil: i have no exp with ati myself
[03:51] <dmitri> Pici not working:( e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda5
[03:51] <chinmy> :)
[03:51] <grndslm>  This is my problem..."The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:51] <grndslm> libgnomevfs2-dev: Depends: libgnomevfs2-0 (= 2.16.1-0ubuntu4) but 2.16.1-0ubuntu6 is installed."
[03:51] <MisticMcil> ATI sucks balls.
[03:51] <Pici> ConstyXIV : check in the wine appsdb if you havent already
[03:51] <grndslm> I don't think you can fix broken packages, right?  maybe downgrade to libgnomevfs2.16.1-0ubuntu4...is that possible??
[03:51] <MisticMcil> I wish they would just die already.