[07:23] <vartotojas> morning. I guess i need the newest jawa version. The problem is that i dont know how to install it
[07:23] <vartotojas> can anyone help me out?
[07:24] <cebor> or should i place all in /srv/ ?
[07:25] <twitchie> !java | vartotojas
[07:31] <MarcoFe> ragazzi buongiorno
[07:31] <ade> Morning all, quick question... I know it's possible to dual boot win7 and Ubuntu, but is it possible to have more than one Ubuntu install (so three os in total)??
[07:31] <MarcoFe> una curiosità
[07:32] <llutz> ade: sure
[07:32] <MarcoFe> ma come faccio a migliorare la grafica su kde quando uso eclipse, quindi java?
[07:32] <MonkeyDust> !it
[07:33] <ade> llutz: cheers bud, I knew it was possible to have four patritions max, but wasn;t sure how many could be root
[07:33] <fidel> ade: yep triple or whatever booting is possible in theory - but personaly i would always prefer using virtual machines instead of messing around with rebooting all day long. (personal preference)
[07:33] <MonkeyDust> ade  four primary partitions, that is
[07:33] <llutz> ade: you can create an extended partition holding logical drives to use for linux-installations. you don't need primaries for linux
[07:34] <llutz> fidel: +1
[07:34] <ade> fidel: yes me too, but have to do some hw tests (instead of vm ones) so didn't want to mess things up. Thanks.
[07:34] <ade> llutz: ah, great idea! Not sure what the limit is then but I know its a lot! lol
[07:35] <llutz> ade: limit is 15 logical drives with libata irrc
[07:36] <llutz> err 12, 3primary+12 logical, something like that. should be enough though
[07:37] <ade> llutz: Sure I read somewhere recently that with logical partitions is was possible (at least in theory) to hold something like 162 partitions!? Don;t think I will quite need that many but I like options lol
[07:38] <llutz> ade: it has been maximum of 63 "partitions" with IDE but theres a lower limit with SCSI(libata) which is used since a while
[07:40] <linocisco> hi all
[07:41] <ade> llutz: That will be where I conjured that figure from then :o) Thanks's for the great advice
[07:41] <linocisco> I am sure everybody is aware of attack on Godaddy's website . Ubuntu site is backed by Godaddy. I am wondering how much it affected on ubuntu site.
[07:41] <Kartagis> how can I make simplescan scan my photos/documents brighter?
[07:41] <llutz> !ot | linocisco
[07:45] <xiukun> #ubuntu-cn
[07:45] <linocisco> xiukun, cn = china?
[07:46] <vlt> Hello. I switched from KDE to Ubuntu and Gnome recently. Where can I find the clibboard history now?
[07:46] <xiukun> Yes
[07:46] <xiukun> 中国懂不
[07:46] <xiukun> 你大爷的
[07:47] <fragmachine> Hello, I'm trying to write a program in C that can pull text from the clipboard. I found a little bit of information on the net about it, but I was wondering where I would find documentation on clipboards and selections etc?
[07:48] <Kartagis> fragmachine: #c
[07:48] <fragmachine> ok
[07:48] <Kartagis> !cn | xiukun
[07:49] <xiukun> ubottu:恩.我是大陆的
[07:50] <xXDjGXx> sup guys
[07:51] <Kartagis> how can I make simplescan scan my photos/documents brighter?
[07:56] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  use any image editor to that end
[07:57] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: no other way?
[07:57] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  what other way did you have in mind?
[07:58] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  there's also xsane, it's more advanced, more editable
[07:58] <llutz> Kartagis: as the name says, its "simple". if you need more options to scan, use xsane
[07:58] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: set a preference or play with some configuration option to scan them brighter?
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  in xsane, yes
[07:59] <p`p> .msg nickserv register
[08:01] <ActionParsnip>  p`p: may want a pass change :)
[08:04] <Chrys0pras3> Hi
[08:05] <Chrys0pras3> I tried to install ubuntu to an external hdd, but now each time I boot, it complains about "unknow filesystem"
[08:06] <Chrys0pras3> The first partition is nfts for data, the next has ubuntu installed, and the last is swap
[08:07] <Chrys0pras3> So now each time I boot, I have to go through set prefix, set root, insmod, etc
[08:07] <gordonjcp> Chrys0pras3: can you post the error verbatim, please?
[08:07] <Chrys0pras3> I'd have to reboot
[08:08] <Chrys0pras3> I decided to reinstall ubuntu, so how can I prevent this from happenning?
[08:09] <Chrys0pras3> 1. where do I install the boot loader, in the disk or in the partition?
[08:10] <Chrys0pras3> 2. do I need a separate partition to mount /boot?
[08:10] <Kartagis> Chrys0pras3: 1. disk, 2. no
[08:10] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[08:10] <SkyKnight>  /msg nickserv identify alagunambi
[08:11] <BebopSteve> poor skyknight
[08:11] <fragmachine> haha
[08:11] <somsip> Chrys0pras3: you don't need one, though sometimes it's recommended
[08:11] <Chrys0pras3> 3. Do I need to change the name of sdb where I'll mount the boot loader so it'll work in any machine?
[08:12] <Chrys0pras3> http://superuser.com/questions/381651/install-a-bootloader-to-boot-another-partition
[08:13] <Chrys0pras3> Here it says to edit /etc/fstabby changing all sdb's to sda's but I did't understant
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Chrys0pras3: its usual to use the UUID of the block device
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Chrys0pras3: its more reliable than the whole sda sdb thing
[08:14] <olga__> доброго времени суток
[08:15] <fidel> !ru | olga__
[08:15] <fidel> man why does everyone think his native language is the 'bomb' for everyone ;)
[08:16] <Ben64> i want to run a command when a certain pid is done, how can i do so? I was trying something like this... if [ kill -0 $pid ]; then echo "foobar"; fi
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: so when the PID dies, you want to run a command?
[08:17] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: correct
[08:17] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: not sure how to get the kill -0 thing to work with if or while
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: you could use:  top -n 1    then grep / awk to the PID colomn to then grep for your PID value
[08:18] <WACOMalt> how do I change the group of a folder via terminal?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: chgrp
[08:18] <llutz> WACOMalt: chgrp group directory
[08:18] <wdp> WACOMalt, chown user:group folder
[08:18] <WACOMalt> ok thank you :)
[08:19] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: then how does it go to a script?
[08:19] <WACOMalt> also how to add a user to a group?
[08:19] <llutz> WACOMalt: man adduser (adduser user group)
[08:19] <Ben64> WACOMalt: usermod
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: let me play
[08:20] <Ben64> WACOMalt: usermod -a -G <group> <user to add to said group>
[08:21] <llutz> and don't miss the -a ....
[08:21] <WACOMalt> I got it, thank you guys
[08:21] <chuck> Could someone please tell me which root command lists all users?
[08:21] <WACOMalt> was making a minecraft group for my server, and having it control a folder
[08:21] <llutz> chuck: getent passwd
[08:22] <chuck> llutz thank you
[08:22] <jalexandru> hi, anybody can recommend a cd clone software for ubuntu 12.04?
[08:22] <Ben64> jalexandru: what do you mean exactly
[08:22] <MonkeyDust> chuck  simply type 'w' in a terminal
[08:22] <fidel> jalexandru: asking for a burn app?
[08:22] <jalexandru> I have a cd and I want to copy it exaclty how it is
[08:22] <Ben64> jalexandru: dd
[08:23] <jalexandru> Thanks ben64 and fidel
[08:23] <chuck> MonkeyDust" That seems to only list the one active User
[08:24] <leblebi> hello! :)
[08:25] <Guest70980> can anyone please help me      i am getting error on apt-get update  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[08:25] <Guest70980> can anyone please help me      i am getting error on apt-get update  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[08:25] <fidel> !repeat > Guest70980
[08:26] <fidel> Guest70980: ppa's are usualy not supported inhere. in general do you understand the error-message?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224074/
[08:26] <MonkeyDust> !ppa > Guest70980
[08:27] <llutz> ActionParsnip: ps --no-headers -p <PID>|| echo not running
[08:27] <leblebi> Where is the default directory which is copying on the Home folder of new created user? I mean where is the default home folder? I want to change it. So every each new user will have these settings (home folder) as default. Thank you!
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice, my bashfu is only yellow belt
[08:28] <tsimpson> leblebi: /etc/skel
[08:28] <fidel> leblebi: i assue it is /etc/skel
[08:29] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: wow thanks, that works great
[08:30] <chuck> When I root command: <getent passwd> I sifted through and found this: Could nobody:65534:65534:nobody: nonexistent: /bin/sh be a hacker
[08:30] <llutz> chuck: no it is a normal account for special purposes
[08:31] <WACOMalt> ok, this is probably a bit out of ubuntu chat scope, but its late :P I have an ftp server running, but my main user cannot get full directory access. it is limited to it's domain.
[08:31] <WACOMalt> how can I change it's root folder and permissions?
[08:31] <leblebi> tsimpson and fidel : first thank you! but there is just 3 folder inside /etc/skel . ?! Where are the others? If I copy here a new folder, It will created on the Home folder of new user?
[08:32] <chuck> I have an account on the "Log In" page which says "Other" but the root commands show no such user. Meanwhile it's password protected.
[08:32] <tsimpson> leblebi: the others are created by the applications when they need to create them, but that directory is copied for each new (non-system) users home
[08:33] <llutz> chuck: a guest-account? you should disable that in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  "allow-guest=false"
[08:33] <leblebi> tsimpson Ok. Thank you! :)
[08:33] <chuck> thanks llutz
[08:35] <kifeey> hi
[08:35] <kifeey> need help pleaseeeeeee
[08:35] <LadyOna> Hello
[08:36] <LadyOna> is it possible to recover encrypted rar files? I cant remeber the password
[08:36] <kifeey> any developer in the house?
[08:37] <kifeey> can someone assist me with a usecase diagram?
[08:37] <haraldneukoeln> which files in etc should I exclude when cloning a system to a different pc? fstab, X11?
[08:37] <bazhang> LadyOna, not possible
[08:38] <bazhang> kifeey, give us way more details
[08:38] <fidel> kifeey: i doubt that question is channel-related ;)
[08:38] <kifeey> kk
[08:38] <Guest70980> where do i found this !ppa
[08:38] <Jordan_U> LadyOna: Did you set the password yourself?
[08:38] <kifeey> am working on a software for asset monitoring and tracking
[08:39] <fidel> Guest70980: you added it - and it should be found in /etc/apt/
[08:39] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[08:39] <ElixirVitae> I am having trouble mounting a drive
[08:39] <bazhang> kifeey, and asset means what? please be VERY clear
[08:39] <ElixirVitae> I am using pysdm
[08:39] <fidel> !enter > ElixirVitae
[08:39] <kifeey> asset means like equipment
[08:40] <ElixirVitae> oh-kay
[08:40] <bazhang> kifeey, could you please ask your full question, all on one line
[08:41] <kifeey> bazhang, i want to develop a use case for asset management and tracking system
[08:41] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, thats the gui to help with fstab?
[08:41] <bazhang> kifeey, sorry no idea what that means without more details
[08:42] <ElixirVitae> I allocated previously unallocated part of my current internal HDD, and make two primary partitions, one ext4 other ntfs. The problem is, while ntfs is mounted at boot time for all users, ext4 is root only. I want to make it available for read/write and tried Storage Device Manager, no dice
[08:42] <Guest70980> fidel sir, please pardon my ignorance i am new to linux and ubuntu where can i find the ppa that i need to delete
[08:42] <kifeey> bazhang, are u a programmer?
[08:42] <ElixirVitae> yes, it is, bazhang
[08:42] <twitchie> Guest70980, ppa's should be removed from software-center .. edit->software sources-> other software tab
[08:42] <bazhang> kifeey, how does this relate to ubuntu
[08:43] <fidel> Guest70980: well somehow you where able to add a ppa in the first place - the bot told you already what a ppa is - and i answered where it it - so what in detail is unclear now?
[08:43] <kifeey> just looking for a channel that can address that
[08:43] <gordonjcp> kifeey: why reinvent the wheel?
[08:43] <gordonjcp> kifeey: contribute to an existing project
[08:43] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, so whats the issue? you could also just use an editor to add to fstab
[08:43] <kifeey> bazhang, can you link me to any channel that can assist me?
[08:44] <bazhang> !alis | kifeey here have a search
[08:44] <ElixirVitae> my fstab line for ext4 is: /dev/sda3 /media/Storage  ext4  group=elixirvitae,users,user,owner  0  0
[08:44] <pranavk> I want to see the size of all the folders that are present in my home directory. Unfortunately 'ls -l' only lists correct size for files not folders. How to computer the size of folders recursively
[08:44] <ElixirVitae> but it does not mount and is still only root access
[08:44] <Ben64> pranavk: du -h
[08:45] <llutz> ElixirVitae:you use chown/chmod to adjust permissions on ext4, not boot.options in fstab
[08:45] <fidel> Guest70980: there are several ways to handle that - either use the software-center as mentioned above - or via cli if you prefer commandline
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> ElixirVitae  add 'defaults' between  ext4 and group
[08:45] <ElixirVitae> I tried that as well, llutz
[08:45] <Guest70980> twitchie's response  is what i think i should try
[08:46] <fidel> Guest70980: yep. if you solved that - ask yourself how you were able to add a ppa without knowing you did so - as it somehow looks like you just entered commands you dont know/understand ...which you never should do ;)
[08:46] <Guest70980> fidel sir, i just copied and pasted what ever sites tell me to do..
[08:46] <pranavk> Ben64: it is giving size of each of the file recursively, I want only collective size of each folder on my home folder. I don't care about the sizes of files/folders inside the home folders.
[08:47] <LadyOna> Jordan_U:  Yes, I set the password my self!
[08:47] <Guest70980> now how can i remove.. i dont see an option in softwarecentre to edit
[08:47] <Jordan_U>  /away
[08:47] <ElixirVitae> like this, MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/ymcTH
[08:47] <Guest70980> i am talking of ubuntu 12.04
[08:47] <Ben64> pranavk: check out the man page for du, it has an option for depth
[08:47] <fidel> Guest70980: yep - and that is a thing you NEVER should do in the first place
[08:47] <ElixirVitae> also, what does it do, defaults line, I mean
[08:47] <ptman> hi! where would i get netboot installer images that install lucid but with a newer kernel?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> LadyOna: Knowing some information about the password can help make recovery possible, but it will only be possible if you chose a particularly weak password also.
[08:47] <bazhang> ptman, there are none
[08:47] <fidel> Guest70980: if someone tells you to take a gun and shoot yourself in the head you dont do it either without thinking about it. no offense - just trying to point out some dangers ;)
[08:48] <pranavk> ok
[08:48] <kifeey> thanks guys
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> ElixirVitae  no, without the comma after defaults -- so: ext4    defaults    group...
[08:48] <ptman> bazhang, well crap
[08:48] <llutz> MonkeyDust: wrong, options don't have to contain spaces
[08:48] <LadyOna> Jordan_U:  I tried all possible passwords ...
[08:48] <ptman> bazhang, any pointers to how I would make some?
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> llutz  but it makes it more readable
[08:49] <llutz> MonkeyDust: it makes fstab corrupt
[08:49] <Guest70980> fidel u are right.. please help , i need to know the entire process and control flow as to how linux / ubuntu works..  like this GPG error i couldnt get to know how to handle until u people have told me..
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> llutz  please, don't confuse people
[08:49] <Ben64> LadyOna: there are rar password crackers, but unless its a very short password, it'd probably take too long
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> llutz  they are tabs, not spaces
[08:50] <Guest70980> i dont know what command to use simply to unstall an applicaiton that i installed either thru software centre synaptics or cli
[08:50] <Guest70980> i'll request yo to be a lil patient and  understand
[08:50] <llutz> MonkeyDust: it makes fstab corrupt, options have to be separated by comma
[08:50] <Ben64> Guest70980: usually "apt-get remove <name>"
[08:50] <LadyOna> Ben64: I always use unsense words and digits too
[08:51] <ElixirVitae> does that not make <option> = defaults and  <dump> = group... MonkeyDust?
[08:51] <Kvaks> What's the best way to securely delete (unrecoverable) a file on an SSD with ext4?
[08:51] <llutz> ElixirVitae: thats it and its wrong
[08:51] <Guest70980> fidel : why do GPG errors occur in the first place
[08:51] <Ben64> Kvaks: check out "shred"
[08:52] <Guest70980> what would this mean NO_PUBKEY D8AD4DE78EEBB0CA
[08:52] <Guest70980> fidel
[08:52] <ElixirVitae> What puzzles me why ntfs is read/write for all users whereas ext4 is only root
[08:52] <ElixirVitae> Does it have to do with Linux filesystem permissions?
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> llutz  falser, no commas in my fstab
[08:52] <llutz> MonkeyDust: you separate fields in fstab by whitespace/tab but not the contents of the fields. options (field 4) must not contain any space
[08:52] <Ben64> ElixirVitae: permissions, you have to create a folder they own or change permissions on the root directory
[08:52] <Kvaks> Ben64: Thanks.
[08:53] <llutz> MonkeyDust: read "man fstab"
[08:54] <ElixirVitae> Well, pysdm does what I do with nano through terminal, and when I say turn back to defaults, it makes <option> line defaults
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> please llutz , do you see a comma here    UUID=76ca71ff-4090-43b3-9a8a-3af687216d4c /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[08:54] <llutz> MonkeyDust: no why should i? you only have 1 OPTION so theres nothing to separate
[08:55] <llutz> MonkeyDust: UUID=e44d2084-a47c-4175-bb78-baa0e41514c0       /               ext4            defaults,discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro,barrier=1 0 1
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> llutz  the guy only needed defaults, please don't try to discuss
[08:55] <Acid190> anyone available for a cloak?
[08:56] <llutz> Acid190: ask in #freenode
[08:56] <Acid190> thanks
[08:56] <Guest70980> fidel ??
[08:56] <llutz> MonkeyDust: true but why did you tell him then to insert "defaults" before "group...."?
[08:56] <ElixirVitae> MonkeyDust, llutz here= http://i.imgur.com/EYPgM.png
[08:56] <ElixirVitae> Defaults option makes it root only, MonkeyDust
[08:57] <ElixirVitae> which was how it was in the first place
[08:57] <llutz> ElixirVitae: you change the permissions with chown/chmod
[08:57] <ElixirVitae> I don't want to change it for this boot, llutz, I want it to be persistent
[08:57] <llutz> ElixirVitae: it will be persistent
[08:57] <llutz> ElixirVitae: thats how unix-fs work
[08:58]  * ElixirVitae goes to investigate man chown.
[08:58] <llutz> ElixirVitae: mount the filesystem, then "sudo chown user:group /mountpoint" to your needs
[08:58] <fidel> Guest70980: sorry - i have to work myself right now. try to ask your general questions directly to the channel/all ppl
[08:59] <ElixirVitae> in my case it is elixirvitae:group, no?
[09:00] <blackshirt> what the problems?
[09:00] <llutz> ElixirVitae: if you are the only to access, set it to elixirvitae:elixirvitae
[09:00] <ElixirVitae> okay, one other thing, where can I learn more about user groups and having multiple users with different level of access, is there a man page or tutorial?
[09:01] <llutz> !permissions | ElixirVitae maybe here
[09:01] <blackshirt> elixirvitae, learn some ACL on detail
[09:02] <jerry_l1> what are some real good micro server machines? ones that cost less that $50?
[09:02] <gordonjcp> jerry_l1: none, really
[09:02] <gordonjcp> jerry_l1: you want an HP Microserver
[09:02] <ElixirVitae> I need to reboot for changes to be active, I presume
[09:02] <jerry_l1> sorry/ meant web page server
[09:03] <ElixirVitae> blackshirt, ACL being acronym for ...
[09:03] <llutz> ElixirVitae: and btw, you better use UUID (from sudo blkid) in your fstab, not device names which could change
[09:03] <jerry_l1> i have seen some things like adrno machines but they end up pricing over 100.00 for 5watt web page servers.
[09:03] <ElixirVitae> Yeah, I plan to do so for externals, so many things to learn, I sometimes get frustrated
[09:04] <blackshirt> elixirvitae, that was for access control list
[09:04] <ElixirVitae> I feel like I crippled my reach after migrating to ubuntu from windows, I will emerge victorious through sheer stubbornness, I guess~
[09:05] <Guest70307> i have problem with ssh command
[09:05] <Guest70307> who can help me
[09:05] <Guest70307> ssh wait after run this command " ssh IP -l USER /bin/ssh -f "
[09:05] <ElixirVitae> Thanks for the help, MonkeyDust, llutz, blackshirt!!!
[09:05] <blackshirt> elixirvitae, not trully right...   You can install it by typing:
[09:12] <resting> apt-get install libpcre3
[09:12] <jdo_dk> How do i create a secure fileshare between to ubuntu servers ?
[09:12] <resting> and when i type apt-get install libpcre3, it says its already the newest version
[09:12] <resting> i need to run pcretest
[09:13] <hatori> jdo_dk: using some type of server ? samba ? nfs ?
[09:13] <Promille> jdo_dk: you can set up an ssh-server?
[09:14] <llutz> !find pcretest
[09:14] <jdo_dk> hatori and promille: What is the best?
[09:14] <llutz> resting: ^^
[09:14] <jdo_dk> Both servers is already running ssh
[09:14] <hatori> jdo_dk: i don't know what you need exactly
[09:15] <Promille> jdo_dk: then do sudo aÃpt-get install filezilla, and connect through that. remember to choose the right potocol
[09:15] <jdo_dk> server1 should push files to server2. server2 is public and server1 is "internal"
[09:16] <Ben64> jdo_dk: you could use rsync
[09:16] <resting> llutz: so no way i can run pcretest?
[09:17] <llutz> resting: idk what that is, but its not contained in any package
[09:17] <Promille> jdo_dk: install filezilla on server2 and download files from server1 with filezilla(through the SFTP protocol). or do it reverse and "push" files over
[09:17] <llutz> resting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52161/pcretest-seems-to-be-gone-from-libpcre3-package
[09:18] <BebopSteve> Sorry to repeat from about 90 minutes ago, is anyone familiar with docky configuration files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[09:18] <resting> llutz: ah..ok...
[09:18] <Promille> jdo_dk: reverse meaning installing filezilla on server 1 and transfering them over to server 2(since both have ssh installed).
[09:19] <llutz> resting: get the maverick packages, extract the pcretest and put it into ~/bin (just my idea)
[09:20] <jilt007> !irssi
[09:22] <jdo_dk> Promille: Thanks
[09:23] <varun> how do i append a file? it says bash: : Permission denied
[09:24] <llutz> varun: which command?
[09:24] <Promille> varun: you're using sudo?
[09:25] <varun> i was trying with echo
[09:25] <varun> no sudo didnt help
[09:25] <varun> llutz: i was trying with echo
[09:26] <llutz> !details | varun
[09:26] <gordonjcp> varun: something like "sudo echo "this thing" > that_file" won't work
[09:27] <Guest87634> hi
[09:27] <somsip> varun: you need you use tee - http://superuser.com/questions/136646/how-to-append-to-a-file-as-sudo
[09:28] <varun> gordonjcp: sudo echo "(xend-http-server yes)">>/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp
[09:28] <varun> bash: /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp: Permission denied
[09:28] <Guest87634> ubuntu vs mint
[09:29] <varun> llutz: sudo echo "(xend-http-server yes)">>/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp
[09:29] <Troy^> Guest87634: simply a matter of preference and for you, yourself to find out.
[09:29] <IdleOne> !poll | Guest87634
[09:29] <somsip> varun: just read the link I gave you
[09:29] <llutz> varun: echo "(xend-http-server yes)" | sudo tee -a /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp
[09:29] <madjoe> Guest87634: Ubuntu
[09:30] <Guest87634> mm
[09:30] <llutz> varun: or sudo sh -c "echo redirection > goes here"
[09:30] <Guest87634> more ppl say contrary..
[09:31] <madjoe> Guest87634: listen, you need to try all options to suite yourself and find ur own pros and cons
[09:31] <varun> thanks
[09:31] <andornaut> Pidgin is stuck at "Waiting for a connection". It works if I enable networking via networkmanager, but I've disabled netman and have setup a static config in /etc/network/interfaces (this is so that it comes up prior to login - if there's a better way to do this, let me know). Pidgin works if I connect using netman, though. Any ideas?
[09:32] <andornaut> With pidgin -d (debug) everything looks okay... it gets its NAT'd addr, etc
[09:32] <madjoe> Guset87634: I tried them both, don't like Unity that much, but I got back to Ubuntu after trying Mint for a month
[09:33] <Guest87634> only because u are her :)
[09:33] <madjoe> what??
[09:33] <Guest87634> here
[09:33] <Guest87634> ah ah
[09:33] <madjoe> i don't get it.
[09:33] <Guest87634> im kiddin
[09:34] <madjoe> no, I don't have to suck up to the community, I'm sharing my thoughts with you, bro.
[09:34] <BebopSteve> there is something about mint I don't like that I cannot put my finger on
[09:35] <madjoe> BebopSteve: exactly
[09:39] <souravaj> hello
[09:43] <Guest70307> how can i register here?
[09:43] <DJones> !register | Guest70307
[09:44] <MikeH> How can I change a disk from GPT to MBR?
[09:45] <ubuntu_> im kiddin
[09:48] <marvin__> hi, anyone know which version of blueGriffon should I download for 10.04 lts???
[09:50] <C-S-B> When will the PPA for  1.11 beta start to inclde 12.10 packages?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> marvin__: the current version on the BlueGriffon download page will likely work for 10.04
[09:51] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|C-S-B:
tnx
[09:51] <C-S-B> woops, wrong channel. :/
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: 1.11 beta of what?
[09:51] <C-S-B> ifnore ActionParsnip It's too early. :P
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> 11am...not massively early :)
[09:52] <C-S-B> I make it 10:50 :P
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> C-S-B: close enough :PP
[09:54] <erkan^> !thunar
[09:55] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: <=1300 == too early.
[09:56] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: Do you know of any issue with reboots just not happening? I dont have my laptop with me currently, but every reboot is failing.
[09:57] <C-S-B> ActionParsnip: Actually, this better go in ubuntu+1
sorry, but the current version of b.Griffon(1.5.2) in d. page is for 11.10, I don't know if I can use it for 10.04???
[09:59] <MikeH> is there a quick format option for creating an ext3 volume?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> marvin__: I suspect you can.  If it doesn't fly, try one of the earlier versions.
[10:00] <tinalon> b.Griffon(1.1.1)
ok
[10:00] <hroi> hi
[10:00] <hroi> anyone familiar with xfs here?
[10:00] <hroi> how to configure the su/sw parameters?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> MikeH: not that I can see in the man page for mkfs.ext3
[10:07] <mach-bar> hi@all
[10:08] <cfhowlett> mach-bar: greetings
[10:08] <mach-bar> i think I found a major bug related to ipv6 in ubuntu precise pangolin, but I'm not 100% sure
[10:08] <cfhowlett> !bug|mach-bar
[10:09] <mach-bar> yes ubottu, but I wanted to check with you guys first...
[10:10] <mach-bar> the thing is: kvm host cannot ping6 virtual guest connected via bridge. It says: "ping: sendmsg: Network is down"
[10:10] <mach-bar> but the network interfaces are actually connected right when I check with brctl show and the routing information is also correct
[10:11] <mach-bar> but what I'm not sure with if it's because I'm using a prefix length of 80 for my net.
[10:11] <mach-bar> Is that allowed?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> mach-bar  try #networking
[10:13] <mach-bar> ok MonkeyDust will do
[10:18] <ahhughes_> apt is trying its best to annoy me, I get 'E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'  and I'm too inexperienced to know what the fix is :'(
[10:18] <josephAG> I guys
[10:19] <blazemore> ahhughes_: Try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:21] <josephAG> need informations on howto configure a bizhub c360 under ubuntu 10.04
[10:22]  * dr_willis wonders what a bizhub c360 is..
[10:24] <ahhughes_> argh... sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get install ia32-libs         == E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.    still :(
[10:24] <dr_willis> what packages does it say are broken?
[10:26] <ahhughes_> oh this looks bad, Im not trying to install adobe reader but the underlying package  ia32-libs is the same    http://askubuntu.com/questions/166566/cannot-install-adobe-reader
[10:26] <josephAG> anyone ever install a konica bizhub C360?
[10:27] <swann> #direcftb
[10:32] <dr_willis> josephAG:  what is a bizhub c360.
[10:32] <josephAG> a bizhub C360 is multifunctional printer sorry
[10:32] <dr_willis> and what part of it is and is not working?
[10:33] <josephAG> I succeded in installing the driver, but got issues with slow printing
[10:34] <josephAG> every time I try to print, he just pulled the state of the printer which take ages
[10:35] <dr_willis> printing is handled by cupos, so have you checked the cups logs for any information/errors? whats slow about the printing. 'pulled the state' means?
[10:36] <josephAG> it check the printer every times to see it current state, I'd like to get rid of this.
[10:37] <dr_willis> bbl - got  some work to do.
[10:38] <ahhughes_> so dr_willis if I try install, ia32-libs --depends-> ia32-libs-multiarch -depends-> libcurl3:i386 but it is not going to be installed. How/Why would that dependency not install?
[10:38] <josephAG> oki thanks Anyway, I try cups log to see if there is any clues in it
[10:38] <etz> Hello all
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> josephAG  it syas here, bizhub 360 is a copier, not a printer
[10:39] <etz> When the new release will come out?
[10:39] <hcecilia> Hello  all
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> ok, multifunction, I misread
[10:40] <geirha> ahhughes_: run apt-cache policy on the packages it mentions.  apt-cache policy ia32-libs ia32-libs-multiarch libcurl3:i386
[10:40] <ahhughes_> geirha, ran.. not sure what Im looking for here.
[10:41] <etz> can anyone please tell me when the new version will release to public?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> etz: October 2012
[10:41] <Guest26245> hi
[10:41] <Guest26245> i've problem with mu su account's password
[10:41] <etz> Thanks cfhowlett
[10:41] <geirha> ahhughes_: Where each package comes from mainly. Pastebin it
[10:41] <Guest26245> i ve forgotten what was it
[10:43] <ahhughes_> geirha, thanks heaps... http://pastebin.com/X73Mf1ny
[10:43] <mokhles> is there any one could help me fined a way of my TV card in?
[10:43] <Lantizia> You know debootstrap? how does it know which packages to download from a repository?! is there some kind of metapackage it looks for?
[10:44] <Eagleman> ello when i reach my share trough using an ip address i can reach it, if i want to reach it using a name it will not connect, when i do nslookup on that name, it will show me the same ip address as going to the share trough an ip address, Why is it not working?
[10:45] <geirha> ahhughes_: More or less same as I get here
[10:46] <geirha> ahhughes_: I've heard apt's multiarch thingy can break under certain circumstances. Possibly that has happened
[10:48] <freddo> hi, is there a boot param to do a text only install? plz
[10:48] <OpenIndianaVbox> !text | freddo
[10:48] <OpenIndianaVbox> freddo: ah, install, sorry
[10:49] <OpenIndianaVbox> freddo: you can use the alternative or mini iso
[10:49] <Orfoz> ihi
[10:49] <Orfoz> hi
[10:49] <AdvoWork> whats the best way to disable a user in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Orfoz> need help
[10:50] <gordonjcp> AdvoWork: change their password
[10:50] <gordonjcp> !help | Orfoz
[10:50] <Walker> raga per ircwar dove si va?
[10:50] <Orfoz> i ve forgotten my root password how can i change it again?
[10:50] <gordonjcp> !it | Walker
[10:50] <freddo> thanks folks! :)
[10:50] <gordonjcp> Orfoz: you shouldn't have a root password at all
[10:51] <gordonjcp> Orfoz: you use sudo with your "normal user" password
[10:51] <gordonjcp> !root | Orfoz
[10:51] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky configuration files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[10:53] <Orfoz> gordonjcp , ubottu  i did correct. thanx for help
[10:59] <jobbe> hi
[11:00] <jobbe> i got a small problem, after updating the kernel, then i cannot run a certain program (netbeans)
[11:00] <jobbe> any idea why?
[11:01] <Promille> jobbe: any error messages?
[11:02] <jobbe> Promille: nothing, it shows the "load" screen and when it disappears nothing happens
[11:02] <jobbe> i tried running it from terminal, and no output
[11:03] <ahhughes_> geirha, yeah.. I got no idea what I am doing and why this is breaking :'(
[11:03] <SilfenX> if I remove the default route on the nic and then add a static route to the outside of router (IP of vpn service providr vpn gateway), how am I supposed to get the OpenVPN client to be able to connect to vpn service provider if it cant resolve the vpn server domain names used in the connection script?
[11:03] <Promille> jobbe: hm. strange. have you tried to reinstall it(i.e. with Synaptic)?
[11:03] <Far092> !list
[11:04] <jobbe> i downloaded it from their site, using the PHP IDE - couldnt get the PHP part working with apt
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: could add the name in /etc/hosts
[11:04] <foo357_> Hello. I have a important process running in terminal. The process is inactive, it might be that it has hanged up or that I have accidentally "paused" it with a keyboard shortcut somehow. How would I wake up the process if I did acidentally sleep it=
[11:05] <Promille> jobbe: I see. Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with netbeans(been using Eclipse most) so I'm afraid I cant help you then.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: press CTRL+Z then run: bg     an d you will get the terminal back and you can see what is happening
[11:05] <jobbe> damn
[11:05] <Promille> jobbe: Try #netbeans, it may be a known bug
[11:06] <jobbe> thanks Promille  :)
[11:06] <Promille> np
[11:06] <rabbi1> got installed 12.04, now trying to connect my old datacard (Reliance Netconnect, ZTE -AC2736 device) is detected but network is not activated. any suggestions ?
[11:06] <rabbi1> Also the 'options' button is disabled under network settings of the card .....
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[11:06] <foo357_> ActionParsnip: The process would eat up almost 100% cpu usage if it was active, but it seems to be inactive. What could I do to check what has happened to the process?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: there maybe something in:  dmesg
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> foo357_: or if there is a logfile, read that
[11:14] <sunson> I'm looking for a video editor to annotate my screen capture sessions with footnotes, lines, boxes, etc.,. What video editor would you recommend to do this?
[11:14]  * smartboyhw will recommend Ubuntu Studio for this..
[11:14] <SilfenX> woudl it work to replace the domain names in my openvpn connection script with the resolved IP s to avoid having the OpenVPN GUI to dns resolve them if the default gateway is removed from the physical nic? http://pastebin.com/Vx6d5AwC?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> sunson: exactly = #ubuntustudio
[11:15] <OpenIndianaVbox> sunson: not sure about screen annotations but i like openshot as a video editor
[11:15] <sunson> cfhowlett: smartboyhw: ubuntu studio is just a collection of packages. what specific package?
[11:15] <Alex_____> Hi, with mount we can precise with offset where the part start but is it possible to set the end of the partition?
[11:15] <smartboyhw> sunson: Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[11:15] <elky> smartboyhw, people tend to not want to completely reinstall, or install a heap of extra packages for one application
[11:16] <cfhowlett> sunson: openshot video editor, subtitle editor for sure
[11:16] <sunson> elky: ditto that
[11:16] <sunson> cfhowlett: thanks. will look at openshot!
[11:16] <smartboyhw> Er OpenShot Video Editor for that:)
[11:16] <smartboyhw> it is included in the studio packages
[11:16] <AdvoWork> where does ubuntu keep its audit logs? i can't find audit.log
[11:16] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: brb
[11:17] <sunson> smartboyhw: I run edubuntu and I'm a teacher... that said, I teach music (and have jackd installed) :)
[11:17] <smartboyhw> AdvoWork, audit? You mean the accounting logs?
[11:17] <smartboyhw> sunson: Oh:)
[11:17] <cfhowlett> sunson: TRYING to use edubuntu to teach ESL :)
[11:17] <sunson> cfhowlett: ESL?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> sunson: English as a Second Language
[11:18]  * smartboyhw finds out there IS a way to install Unity 2D on quantal...
[11:20] <sunson> cfhowlett: ltsp-server works out of the box on edubuntu (along with a fully working basic /opt/ltsp/xxx pre-built)
[11:21] <sunson> given I'm on a flaky internet connection, the ltsp-build-client scripts are very fragile - they fail and ask us to try for every small error.
[11:21] <josephAG> bye guys
[11:21] <sunson> s/try/try again/
[11:21] <Alan_> HI!
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> smartboyhw  just entered... you read this? http://www.muktware.com/4161/unity-2d-removed-quantal
[11:22] <smartboyhw> MonkeyDust, I did it yesterday LOL
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: its no longer an option, you will use CPU + GPU if your GPU isn't up to the job. I can recommend you switch from Gnome to another DE, XFCE is very similar to the Gnome2 stylee desktop
[11:24] <xyxxy>  hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: this channel is also only for stable releases only, quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[11:27] <marun> one of the partition /dev/sda2 is missing in my server.. what might be the reason
[11:27] <AdvoWork> i've heard its not great having ssh open on a server that is accessible from the outside world. Currently we have lots of domain names(email) that point to the external ip of our router. SSH is setup on that router, port forwarding > an internal server. Any suggestions of how to improve this?
[11:27] <blackshirt> marun, not showed with fdisk -l
[11:28] <blackshirt> ?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: its fine to access SSH over the web, you can bolster security by using key files.
[11:28] <shomon> how do I add someone to sudoers? just add them to the admin group in /etc/group?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> shomon: sudo usermod -a -G sudo username
[11:29] <ow> AdvoWork: So wait, as in someone can SSH into your router? Or your router just forwards SSH requests to an internal server?
[11:29] <shomon> ooh never seen sudo for more than "gimme" :)
[11:29] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, but if someone does a scan on one of our domains, they can find sssh open right?
[11:29] <shomon> thanks
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> shomon: next time the user will log in they will be able to use sudo
[11:29] <AdvoWork> ow, sorry, i meant port forwarding setup to ssh to a machine on the network
[11:30] <shomon> hmm I just ran that command but it just said "bla is not in the sudoers file..."
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: yes they will see the service listening for connections
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> shomon: you need to run it as someone who can ALREADY use sudo
[11:31] <crizis> shomon, alternatively, you can add users to /etc/sudoers
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> crizis: not necessary, plus the user will need access to sudo to edit the file so is counter intuitive
[11:31] <sunson> cfhowlett: openshot does exactly what I want. Its _amazing_ :)
[11:32] <crizis> duh, you can't add people to groups without sude either
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> shomon: if you wish, you can boot to root recovery console and run the command there :)
[11:32] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, so is that not unsafe?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> crizis: you can if they know the pasword on the group :)
[11:32] <coolman> hello guys
[11:32] <ow> AdvoWork: If you're worried about security, 1) consider running on a different port; 2) in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, set "PasswordAuthentication no"
[11:32] <cfhowlett> sunson: openshot is a great tool and developed at an amazing pace.  Please share your success with the developers.
[11:32] <coolman> i need add time on grub
[11:32] <marun> balckshirt: no. fdisk -l doesn't show the partition at all
[11:32] <ow> AdvoWork: before doing #2, make sure you have keys set up
[11:32] <coolman> where have to change
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: not really no, if you disable logins with passwords and use only keys then the connections will be dropped if they don't have the right key file
[11:32] <coolman> int /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[11:33] <sunson> cfhowlett: cool. will do :)
[11:33] <OpenIndianaVbox> !yay | sunson
[11:33] <coolman> or in another places
[11:33] <ahhughes_> Im || close to uninstalled ubuntu and going back to windows.... been nuthin but trouble :'(
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sunson: also, tutorials and commentary is always welcome on the ubuntustudio channel and the multimedia ubuntu forums
[11:33] <coolman> ?"
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sunson: should you feel so inclined.  Thanks.
[11:33] <shomon> ah so ActionParsnip I should have run that command as my own user, not as root?
[11:33] <ow> you do this via running "ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096" on the /client/ machine - the one you want to connect /with/
[11:33] <shomon> as root it said it worked but then didn't but as myself it directly "reported the incident"
[11:34] <ow> use the default locations for everything, and then do "ssh-copy-id yourlogin@yourmachine"
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: any user whom can run admin tasks needs to run the command as it changes the access of the user, users cannot add themselves to groups (unless there is a group password and the user has been given the password)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: so root or any other user in the sudo group can do i
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> it*
[11:34] <ow> this creates a special kind of authorization between your machine and the SSHD server, and will avoid the use of passwords altogether once set up
[11:34] <shomon> I did it as root.. but it still gave me the error that I'm not in sudoers as the user I meant to add to sudoers
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> shomon: if you run:  whoami   does it say 'root'?
[11:35] <shomon> ok will do it again.. this time via adding another entry to (/etc/sudoers
[11:35] <shomon> yes
[11:35] <zykotick9> shomon: "sudo" or "sudoers" group? -- FYI it's sudo
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> shomon: weird
[11:36] <marvin__> datemi il comando per favore per installare questa roba qua tramite terminale,,,gia scaricata;     BlueGriffon-1.4.1-Linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
[11:36] <cfhowlett> !es|marvin__:
[11:36] <shomon> ah now by adding direct to /etc/sudoers it worked
[11:36] <shomon> marvin__, vai nel canale in italiano
[11:36] <shomon> sará ubuntu-it immagino
[11:36] <shomon> #ubuntu-it
[11:36] <zykotick9> shomon: also FYI you need to log out - then back in.  to see group changes!
[11:37] <cfhowlett> shomon: thanks.  es and look alike to me
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: use the getdeb ppa
[11:37] <shomon> oh yeah I'd forgotten, but adding to the group seems to have worked now
[11:37] <shomon> thanks
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./getdeb-repository_0.1-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get insatll bluegriffon
sorry :-))))  ....I thought to bee in ubuntu-it
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: ^ easy peasy
tnx ;-)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> marvin__: getdeb has it but you need to add their PPA (using the deb file)
[11:39] <F__> hey guys is there a way to install Avast! on ubuntu 12.04?
[11:40] <OpenIndianaVbox> !av | F__
[11:41] <F__> yeah i share files with 6 other computers running windows so i really need to make sure i dont infect them
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> F__: use the repos
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> !find avast
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hmmm
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> F__: http://www.avast.com/linux-home-edition#tab4
[11:43] <OerHeks> On their own forum > http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=91145.0
[11:45] <xyxxy>  hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.
[11:46] <OpenIndianaVbox> xyxxy: not really a ubuntu question
[11:46] <kodo_> ragazzi salve a tutti
[11:47] <kodo_> ho provato ad installare i flash plugins
[11:47] <OpenIndianaVbox> !it | kodo_
[11:48] <shomon> xyxxy, maybe via sox?
[11:48] <kodo_> ma al momento di vedere un filmato ad esempio su youtube il browser nel caso di chrome mi dice che non puo' caricare iplugin (che ho verificato essere presenti) e nel caso di Firefox semplicemente non si apre la finestra del video
[11:48] <shomon> also vlc does normalizing of all levels played.. not sure if that's what you're after
[11:48] <kodo_> suggerimenti?
[11:48] <shomon> kodo_, no te pol parlar par italian qua. e nianca per triestin..
[11:48] <OpenIndianaVbox> kodo_: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:49] <Wernlq> Hi Friends!
[11:49] <Wernlq> help plz
[11:49] <twitchie> !ask | Wernlq
[11:49] <smartboyhw> Wernlq, what help do you want/
[11:49] <blackshirt> werniq,what is the problem?
[11:49] <Wernlq> How download video in Tor Browser?
[11:50] <shomon> Wernlq, don't. you should use i2p or something geared for high bandwidth use for private downloads on alternate networks IMO
[11:50] <Wernlq> I need grub link and download videos from sites
[11:50] <shomon> unless you are making use of tor in a civil conflict/journalism or human rights situation, leave the bandwidth to those who need it
[11:51] <Wernlq> imo?
[11:52] <Wernlq> I need to safely download videos from the Internet
[11:53] <Wernlq> Any use Tor Browser?
[11:53] <pankaj_> me
[11:53] <shomon> find them then download via https?
[11:53] <Wernlq> how download videos from youtube?
[11:54] <Wernlq> in Tor Browser
[11:54] <pankaj_> Wernlq, there are tons of website which can help u
[11:54] <Wernlq> yes?
[11:54] <Wernlq> can u gice link plz?
[11:55] <shomon> https://www.eff.org/pages/tor-and-https this is good for finding out who sees what when using tor and ssl
[11:55] <Boreeas> Tor Browser is just firefox with some modification, right? Just install some addon for firefox which does that
[11:55] <shomon> yes. the package is called vidalia, and comes with an adapted firefox and pidgin client
[11:55] <shomon> at least I think setting up tor on ubuntu is via "apt-get install vidalia tor"
[11:55] <OpenIndianaVbox> !tor
[11:56] <smartboyhw> !tor-sasl
[11:57] <Wernlq> and why freenode ban tor's IPs?
[11:57] <OpenIndianaVbox> Wernlq: ask in #freenode
[11:58] <shomon> because people use them for trolling
[11:58] <Wernlq> OpenIndiana i think this project is death
[11:58] <Wernlq> was
[11:59] <OpenIndianaVbox> Wernlq: this channel just deals with ubuntu support
[11:59] <Wernlq> Google banned IP of Tor because they want see real IP of users they make statistics
[12:01] <Wernlq> on freenode all sleeping
[12:01] <Wernlq> Why developing in Linux?
[12:01] <Wernlq> Who?
[12:01] <Wernlq> Who professional developer Linux programms?
[12:01] <Wernlq> Any here?
[12:01] <Wernlq> plz?
[12:01] <twitchie> !enter | Wernlq
[12:01] <shomon> ask in ##linux
[12:01] <OpenIndianaVbox> Wernlq: ask in ##linux
[12:02] <shomon> jinx
[12:03] <Wernlq> ok
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Wernlq: then use a different search engine...surel
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> *surely
[12:05] <Samara_> my husband is gay but I love him
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Samara_
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Samara_: wrong channel
[12:06] <Samara_> my husband will learn ubuntu someday...
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !ops | Samara_
[12:06] <Samara_> my husband is the brazilian or arabic bill gates
[12:08]  * cfhowlett Thinks: full moon tonight?
[12:09]  * smartboyhw is having extremely bad weather here
[12:09] <bonno> hello.. i use 11.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.04..but when i go to the update manager the only option is 11.10...why 12.04 isnt there?
[12:09] <xyxxy>  hi. how to read continuously the current dynamic volume of the played music? i do not refer to volume level.
[12:09] <smartboyhw> bonno: You can't update directly from 11.04 to 12.04
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> bonno: you must upgrade to the next release only as you are not on LTS
[12:10] <smartboyhw> You need to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 then 12.04
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> bonno: you cannot leapfrog release
[12:10] <cfhowlett> bonno: in others words, clean install 12.04
[12:10] <kodo_> ragazzi nonostante abbia installato i plugin di flash player chrome e firefox non riescono a caricarli
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> bonno: i'd clean install. Gets the OS as it is intended rather than the old fluff from the old install :)
[12:10] <smartboyhw> kodo_: Go to #ubuntu-it for Italian...
[12:12] <bonno> ok..but i just dont want to to clean install .. :P  can i upgrade to 11.10 and then 12.04 ?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> bonno: you can.
[12:13] <bonno> thanks.. hope nothing goes wrong
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> bonno, Just back up, first.
[12:14]  * skraito said hi all
[12:15] <Sidewinder1> Music, pics, data, etc.
[12:15] <dandedilia> Hello i have a big Problem: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Samsung N145 Plus Netbook: Updates lead today is no longer the brightness setting works.  Not with the keys and not even in the brightness settings ...
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: this is very common
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: tried the boot option: acpi_backlight=vendor
[12:18] <dandedilia> okay one moment please...
[12:19] <bonno> back-up why?   if its fails i just do clean install then :P
[12:19]  * smartboyhw doesn't backup data ever lol
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: you'll see
[12:21] <jilt007> i want to kill termainl. What name should be it in top , i am confused
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: gnome-terminal
[12:21] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Thanks !
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: or press ALT+F2 and run: xkill    then click the terminal
[12:22] <jilt007> ActionParsnip:  ok i got it!
[12:24] <Kartagis> how do I check whether my host is SNMP-enabled?
[12:24] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Also one more question  i  have two system and i have  iptables rules set in one of them for ssh to reject connection, from my second system i want to access ssh how to do that. I  just want to  bypass . How to do that any hint
[12:25] <dandedilia> ActionParsnip,  Where do I set this to the acpi_backlight ...
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: pastie.org/4790702
[12:26] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Any idea>
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: delete the iptables rule
[12:27] <AdvoWork> whats the quickest way to search for sym-links in /etc? based on the name test? its taking *ages*, im trying grep -r test *
[12:27] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: i just not want to physical acces the system
[12:27] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: I want to do ssh from my second system
[12:27] <g00denough> jilt007: which won't work since you reject ssh in iptables...
[12:28] <jilt007> g00denough: Any Way to  bypass it
[12:28] <shad0wfax> jilt007: iptables -A INPUT -s ! <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp -m multiport 80,443 -j DROP
[12:28] <_ruben> AdvoWork: find /etc/ -type l
[12:28] <g00denough> jilt007: no, iptables would be pointless if you easily could circumvent it
[12:28] <vvpalin> if there was a way to bypass a iptables rule jilt007 it wouldnt be a very good rule would it ?
[12:29] <jilt007> g00denough: Ok
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: http://superuser.com/questions/71163/how-to-find-all-soft-links-symbolic-links-in-current-directory
[12:29] <jilt007> g00denough: Thanks!
[12:29] <jilt007> shad0wfax: Thanks!
[12:29] <shad0wfax> jilt007: You're welcome!
[12:30] <vvpalin> that being said there might be ways but it wont be easy and its beyond my limited knowledge of iptables
[12:31] <m3pow> Hello ! Is it possible to broadcast messages from an ubuntu server to the client's browser ?
[12:32] <BebopSteve> m3pow Can you be more specific?  Because there's a lot of different ways- cgi php javascript etc etc etc
[12:32] <Night-hacks> I have windows in my virtual box with http server, can i connect from Ubuntu to it ?
[12:33] <Danno_> are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: bridge the LAN and you can access it like a new system on the LAN
[12:34] <m3pow> BebopSteve, in a MAN network, i want to broadcast a message to those that have debts, by sending a message in their browser at a certain time
[12:34] <Night-hacks> should i google : "LAN bridging" ?!
[12:34] <dandedilia> ActionParsnip,  THX works perfect
[12:34] <g00denough> Night-hacks: just set network to "bridged" in the vbox setup
[12:35] <Night-hacks> tnx
[12:35] <leblebi_21> Hi! :)
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> dandedilia: sweet, known issue. Real pain
[12:37] <dandedilia> ActionParsnip,  Had the problem now for the first time ... I know modest in future
[12:37] <leblebi_21> is there somebody who use UCK-Ubuntu Customization Kit here? i need to ask if i can use gui based programs on the step which open a terminal by UCK.
[12:38] <AdvoWork> am i right in thinking, sudo update-rc.d whatever disable will change the symbolic link from S to K ? ie disable the whatever on boot? and to revert, enable?
[12:39] <Danno_> are there any good on screen keyboards that work at the login screen? ive tried onboard but it doesnt work at login and it doesnt seem to have a lot of non alphabet characters
[12:39] <AdvoWork> actually, stop instead of disable
[12:40] <dandedilia> Goodbye guys ;) see us by the next problems with ubuntu ;D
[12:41] <m3pow> any thoughts on the broadcast message thing ?
[12:42] <OpenIndianaVbox> m3pow: yeah, you need to thingy the whatchamacallit
[12:43] <leblebi_21> Can i use gui based programs on the step which UbuntuCustimozationKit open a terminal?
[12:44] <m3pow> OpenIndianaVbox can youplease be more specific ?
[12:44] <OpenIndianaVbox> m3pow: that was also my point to you
[12:44] <BluesKaj> HIyas all
[12:44] <MonkeyDust>  leblebi_21 please rephrase
[12:44] <BebopSteve> m3pow Honestly more context is needed.  Are you talking about a -web- browser?  If not, are all clients using ubuntu?
[12:44] <Nickeeh> I'd like to not see any more screens of "blah blah has close unexpectedly"
[12:45] <Nickeeh> Is that a tweak somewhere?
[12:45] <m3pow> not all clients use ubuntu, of course not !
[12:45] <Nickeeh> It's hard to google.
[12:45] <Stanley00> Nickeeh: it's called apport service ;)
[12:45] <m3pow> or not necesarely into the browser, but maybe like a pop-up to notice them that they have to pay
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Nickeeh: try a different search engine then....
[12:46] <BebopSteve> m3pow Aren't there privacy laws against that
[12:46] <m3pow> i dunno BebopSteve, i am also helping a friend. He knows about these privacy things
[12:47] <m3pow> that's why i don't have much details
[12:48] <leblebi_21> MonkeyDust: Can i use all command (gui apps) on the step: "You can still select the Run Console Application option to launch a special terminal window. This terminal window represents the live CD environment" http://www.howtogeek.com/109736/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-or-usb/
[12:48] <Nickeeh> Stanley00: awesome. You think if I flip enabled=0 in it's conf file my computer will misbehave?
[12:48] <BebopSteve> m3pow Well if it isn't a web browser they're communicating with your server in, and you don't own the pc your client is using, you're out of luck as far as I know
[12:49] <Stanley00> Nickeeh: I don't think so. I have that disable too :D
[12:49] <Nickeeh> Stanley00: great! Cheers :)
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> leblebi_21  haven't tried
[12:49] <m3pow> ok BebopSteve, thanks for helping
[12:50] <rolling2k><PHONE_NUMBER>066594	0215	640	Casey Weiss	3704 Promontory Street	San Diego	CA	UNITED STATES	92109
[12:50] <BebopSteve> the heck?
[12:50] <ulkesh> wow
[12:50] <paata> hi all
[12:50] <rolling2k><PHONE_NUMBER>139086 	05/15 	061 	Jeffrey Roiland 	1818 Shilhon Rd 	Duluth 	MN 	55804 	United States
[12:50] <g00denough> !ops | rolling2k spams again
[12:51] <BebopSteve> why randomly spurt off people's financial info
[12:52] <BebopSteve> I mean, if ya got it, one would assume you keep your illegal sources to yourself
[12:52] <g00denough> BebopSteve: who cares about spammers intentions
[12:53] <BebopSteve> well I smell entrapment
[12:53] <BebopSteve> but anyone dumb enough would deserve it I guess
[12:53] <smartboyhw> ActionParsnip, what do you mean by "You'll see"?
[12:54] <jilt007> I am through irssi , how to switch to differnt channels in  it?
[12:55] <dr_willis> you mean join other channels or change windows in irssi?
[12:55] <g00denough> jilt007: /j #channel, switch with esc+window-number
[12:55] <platschi> or /win #
[12:55] <dr_willis> alt-# may work also
[12:56] <BluesKaj> why would spmeone who's dumb as you put it deserve to be punshed for being so , BebopSteve ?
[12:57] <jilt007> g00denough: Thanks alot!
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> smartboyhw: you'll get some situation where your data integrity is in jeapordy and you'll regret not having a backup
[12:57] <GOMI> i have a question , i get an exclamation mark telling me about "update information is outdated" but when i click it it only says vlc  reposetories fail ??
[12:57] <GOMI> what does that mean
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: run:  sudo apt-get udpate     is it smooth?
[12:57] <AdvoWork> how would i go about rename all symbolic links, im trying to change from S to K. I can see I can do sudo update-rc.d whatever stop, but it needs an NN, but i dont know this
[12:57] <smartboyhw> ActionParsnip, ;0
[12:57] <dr_willis> you using a vlc ppa   GOMI ?
[12:58] <BebopSteve> BluesKaj If they use said leaked financial data spammed just now to say, purchase a new TV online, I feel they would deserve the cops barging down their door
[12:58] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  yes smooth
[12:58] <GOMI> dr_willis,  yes i think so
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: is the exclamation gone now?
[12:59] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  no , at the end i get some errors about vlc
[12:59] <g00denough> AdvoWork: better to use sysv-rc-conf with upstart. NN are the runlevels (ubuntu is not using those) you want to change
[12:59] <GOMI> ActionParsnip, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[12:59] <GOMI> i think i have to delete them right ?
[12:59] <dr_willis> GOMI:  the ppa may be dead
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/   PPA doesn't support Natty
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: that PPA only supports Oneiric, Precise and Quantal
[13:00] <ulkesh> GOMI: if you go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu/dists/ in a web browser, you'll not see natty there
[13:00] <dr_willis> do you really need the daily build of vlc?
[13:00] <rolling2k> im back
[13:00] <rolling2k> lol
[13:00] <GOMI> ActionParsnip, okey
[13:01] <AdvoWork> g00denough, ok, ill look into that. why better?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: hence the exclamation mark. You do realise that Natty is EOL at the end of next month? I suggest you upgrade to a newer release soon
[13:01] <g00denough> AdvoWork: it works better with the upstart-mechanisms
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: later versions are better by default ;)
[13:02] <BebopSteve> proxy kiddie
[13:02] <GOMI> ActionParsnip,  yes i know  i will , just afraid that something will go wrong during upgrade -__-!)
[13:02] <AdvoWork> g00denough, my only concern is, i'd need to install it, and this server is pretty fragile at the moment
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> GOMI: then clean install Precise and you will have a release supported til 2017
[13:02] <dr_willis> been having some weird issues in vlc lately where, sound never comes back is i pause/restart a video
[13:03] <money> good morning america
[13:03] <money> full of nigger
[13:03] <FloodBot1> money: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <g00denough> AdvoWork: doesn't "sudo update-rc.d service disable" work for you? afaik runlevels (NN) are optional
[13:13] <QuantumQrack> Anybody have any recommendations for ubuntu 64 bit vs. 32 bit running from flash drive?
[13:14] <jilt007> HOw to see all system connected in my network using arp command
[13:15] <AdvoWork> g00denough, i try that, it just shows usage, ie it doesn't accept disable. but this is an old system though :S
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: you can use: smbtree
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: depends on RAM amount and what you are using the OS for really
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: the fact it's on a flash drive isn't really a factor
[13:21] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Thanks a lot!
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: or nmap
[13:23] <QuantumQrack> ActionParsnip, I want to switch to using Linux instead of Windows.  But I want to try it out first.  I installed a bootable version on my flash drive, 64bit, but it didnt seem to work.  I have an Intel i7 processor, 6 gigs of ram, and SSD, some 1 terabyte hard drives, etc.
[13:23] <jilt007> ActionParsnip:  I am familiar with nmap, but how to use smbtree , never heared about this
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: just run it, then type your user password
[13:24] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: i did that but nothing happend
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: its to show samba shares but it will show the systems even if they are not sharing stuff
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: ok and what is the OS used for?
[13:24] <jilt007> ActionParsnip: Asked for password but not showed the shared  or the sytem
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> jilt007: thought it'd show the systems on the LAN. oh well
[13:25] <QuantumQrack> ActionParsnip--browsing the internet, games ported for linux, chatting on irc, media intensive tasks such as watching movies, tv shows, etc.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: you could use 32bit for that, nothing too intensive there. 64bit will let the OS see your RAM as one block, 32bit with PAE will use it all but each process will have a maximum RAM of 3.2Gb.
[13:27] <QuantumQrack> Yeah, I would rather use 64 bit, unless it isnt a very good experience...
[13:27] <QuantumQrack> I tried to run 64 bit from the flash drive, but it seemed to get into an endless loop
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: i'll be the same as the 32bit...
[13:28] <alecb> I just tried to re-compile kernel wifi drivers as outlined here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95360/how-to-get-a-stable-wlan-connection-with-a-lenovo-x121e, how would I check if what I did actually worked or not? (ie, if I'm using the freshly compiled drivers or not)
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:28] <QuantumQrack> no, I just followed the instructions here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: ahh did the app download the ISO for you?
[13:29] <QuantumQrack> No, I downloaded it separately.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: did you MD5 test it?
[13:30] <QuantumQrack> No, how do I do that?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[13:31] <QuantumQrack> !md5
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> !hashes | QuantumQrack
[13:33] <retrorex> I use winxp and ubuntu winxp is my boot partition . I wan't to format boot partition. Will I be able to login to ubuntu
[13:35] <AdvoWork> g00denough, any further ideas?
[13:35] <QuantumQrack> hrmm, MD5 checksums are different
[13:36] <smartboyhw> QuantumQrack, make sure you check the right one, if not redownload sorry
[13:36] <retrorex> does grub reside in boot partition
[13:36] <QuantumQrack> yeah, I guess I can redownload.  fast connection, shouldnt take too long
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: you may need to reinstate grub using liveCD
[13:37] <Sidewinder1> QuantumQrack, Bad ISO, probably; redownload, then md5sum the new ISO to be certain.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: thats why you are getting the issue and is why MD5 testing exists
[13:37] <retrorex> sad thing my cd drive not working
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: use torrents for extra checks on the data. Can help
[13:37] <QuantumQrack> Im just going to download from Ubuntu.com again.  or do you recommend another site?
[13:38] <g00denough> AdvoWork: "shows usage"? you misformed the command then
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: the site is irrelevant, as long as the hashes match its fine
[13:38] <AdvoWork> g00denough, im wondering if this old version of ubuntu doesnt allow "disable" for update-rc.d ?
[13:38] <alix_> hi all
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> QuantumQrack, WADR to ActionParsnip, even after using torrents (which contain auto error checking), still, md5sum the ISO..
[13:38] <g00denough> AdvoWork: check "man update-rc.d" but i doubt it
[13:38] <alix_> do anyone know a django channel?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> alix_: try #django
[13:39] <AdvoWork> g00denough, man shows that the options are defaults/stop/start
[13:41] <g00denough> AdvoWork: try "sudo update-rc.d <service> stop 2 3 4 5 ."
[13:42] <AdvoWork> g00denough, it runs, but says "System startup links for ... already exist. I assume a force would be needed,ie -f ?
[13:45] <akis> can any one help me to clear my dashboard and specialy 'files and folders' section because some of the /dir they don't exist anymore on my hd. i tried to do a clearness using  'activity log manager' but the /dirs are still there. any idea?
[13:45] <g00denough> AdvoWork: i guess it should have been "sudo update-rc.d <service> -f remove && sudo update-rc.d <service> stop 2 3 4 5 ."
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> akis: use the icon that has the yellow arrow going round in a circle under dash
[13:47] <akis> do you mean activity log manager? i installed and i used it already, but nothing happened cleaning all the history.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> akis: yeah you can clean those there as well as tell the logging which apps to ignore too :)
[13:48] <AdvoWork> g00denough, whats that going to remove though, isn't thatjust the same as doing the remove in the first place?
[13:49] <g00denough> AdvoWork: "remove" removes the links but won't create Kxx links again
[13:49] <AdvoWork> g00denough, but what do I do when i need to turn these back on again?
[13:49] <g00denough> AdvoWork: this would disable a service until the next update of the package, which would recreate the start-links
[13:50] <g00denough> AdvoWork: thats why i suggested sysv-rc-conf, which handles this correct (afaik)
[13:52] <g00denough> AdvoWork: to turn them on, you just remove them again, and run update-rc.d defaults
[13:53] <akis> yep but why the folders 'pictures', 'music' 'downolad' are still there although i deleted form my hd and i asked from 'activity log manager' to clear everything form my dashboard?
[13:55] <AdvoWork> g00denough, ill try
[13:55] <genii-around> akis: If a directory is specified in /home/your-username/.config/user-dirs.dirs it gets created again whether you deleted it or not
[13:56] <akis> yea you have right but those dirs they are not on my hd any more. do i have to edit user-dirs.dirs?
[13:57] <pavelz> Hi, I am working with Macs most of the day and have ubuntu lappie at home. I wonder if there is any way to transfer keyboard layouts from Mac to Ubuntu
[13:57] <genii-around> akis: Yes, if you comment out the ones you do not want the system to re-make every boot/login then they will be gone for good.
[13:59] <Ndushi> My laptop lost power and when I try to start it up again it just boots to a BusyBox-terminal, so I tried to boot from my live-USB stick and it says the harddrive's file system is "Unknown". I tried to reformat it and it wouldn't work… "cannot create file system fsync input/output-error"
[14:00] <amir__> hi
[14:00] <amir__> asl plz?
[14:00] <bazhang> amir__, wrong network for that
[14:00] <alioguzhan> yea
[14:00] <bazhang> Guest86326, not here
[14:00] <akis> ok thanks. i'll try it and i'll report.
[14:01] <Guest86326> me f 22 :))
[14:01] <bazhang> Guest63753, stop that , its offtopic here
[14:02] <genii-around> Guest86326: This channel is to help people with their Ubuntu operating system.
[14:02] <AdvoWork> I'm doing: find /etc/ -type l | grep whatever to find sym-links, can i list at the same time where those links are linked to?
[14:02] <g00denough> AdvoWork: ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*servicename
[14:04] <zykotick9> g00denough: i doubt update-rc.d should be used on ubuntu, as ubuntu uses upstart...  just sayin'
[14:04] <AdvoWork> g00denough, thanks
[14:04] <g00denough> zykotick9: "AdvoWork: thats why i suggested sysv-rc-conf, which handles this correct (afaik)  "       just saying ;)
[14:05] <g00denough> AdvoWork: they usually all link to /etc/init.d/servicename
[14:05] <elfenixtorres> amir__: 12.04, thus 5months, no gender, on your computer
[14:06] <K4k> Hey, I just rebooted my system and I'm getting "running in low graphics mode" now and I can't control anything with the laptops mouse and keyboard. I'm having to use a USB keyboard right now. I don't see anything odd in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Anywhere else I might look?
[14:06] <AdvoWork> g00denough, they do yeah, theres a few repeated ones though, ie.  /etc/rc2.d/S01whatever  /etc/rc2.d/S99whatever   /etc/rc3.d/K01whatever   /etc/rc3.d/S99whatever
[14:07] <g00denough> AdvoWork: i'd remove all those links manually and create new one from scratch
[14:08] <AdvoWork> g00denough, why, just to make it tidier?
[14:08] <g00denough> AdvoWork: to have a "clean base"
[14:09] <ludwig_> hi folks... i need to increase the stack size for apache (mpm_prefork) any ideas?
[14:09] <AdvoWork> wont the defaults bit fix all that though, if i remove them all?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ludwig_: have you asked in the apache channel too?
[14:09] <ludwig_> @ActionParsnip: not yet, but good idea
[14:10] <zykotick9> g00denough: /etc/init.d is SYSV - NOT upstart!  /etc/init/ is upstart.
[14:10] <g00denough> AdvoWork: it should, but didnt you want to disable the service?
[14:10] <pseudonymous> I'm trying to install texlive to write a report for tomorrow, but I get a rather cryptic "E: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[14:11] <g00denough> zykotick9: yes, but sysv-rc-conf handles old sysv-links in a upstart-pleasant way (in opposite to updae-rc.d)
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[14:11] <parlon> Hi, when I run netstat, I see 10's of connections like "tcp        0      0 localhost:empowerid         localhost:33441             TIME_WAIT", there is no user called empowerid. Any idea what is happening?
[14:11] <AdvoWork> g00denough, yeah disable and re enable at a later stage, but if i remove(it will clean them out) then stop to disable, then remove, then default(or start instead?)
[14:12] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: I did, along with "apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade".. Specifically "apt-get install -f" just informs me of some packages which are installed but no longer needed, it doesn't seem to *do* anything
[14:13] <g00denough> AdvoWork: that should work
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: you can clean up with:  sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[14:13] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: is it strictly needed to clean away the unused packages, though ?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: its handy, saves unecessary updates too
[14:15] <pseudonymous> Although on a laptop, I have some 300+ GB and the main reason why I run Ubuntu is to have a stable base. I have no use for a few extra megs or anything. What I'm getting at is, is there the slightest chance that these packages could have something else break ?
[14:17] <QuantumQrack> So I have downloaded this again:  ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso and the MD5 checksums still do not match up.  What is going on?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: you'll need to satisfy package dependencies, if the deps are held due to other deps being held then you will need to wait
[14:17] <ebisinep> hello rum???
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: what hash do you get
[14:18] <olga__>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:18] <QuantumQrack> 06472ddf11382c8da1f32e9487435c3d
[14:18] <olga__>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS    looks fine, desktop amd64....
[14:19] <QuantumQrack> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52
[14:19] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: well that's what I don't get, I was under the impression that once I've done a full system update (apt-get update && apt-get upgrade) I should be able to install whatever package in the repo that I wanted. Surely texlive isn't broken in the repos as in half the packages are updated.. And if not(which I assume) what do you mean ?
[14:19] <QuantumQrack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:20] <olga__> доброго времени суток
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: are there bugs reported?
[14:20] <bazhang> olga__, english here only
[14:20] <bazhang> olga__, russian in #ubuntu-ru
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> QuantumQrack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  has that hash, looks good
[14:20] <olga__> #ubuntu-ru
[14:20] <olga__> (
[14:21] <QuantumQrack> ActionParsnip, I guess I am comparing it to the wrong hash.
[14:21] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: I'd have no clue where to start looking for that
[14:21] <olga__> need russ ubunta chanel help plise
[14:21] <QuantumQrack> Ill try to get the flash drive to work again I guess.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> !bug | pseudonymous
[14:21] <bazhang> olga__, /join #ubuntu-ru   <------ NO spaces
[14:22] <olga__> thank you
[14:23] <Ndushi> My laptop lost power and when I try to start it up again it just boots to a BusyBox-terminal, so I tried to boot from my live-USB stick and it says the harddrive's file system is "Unknown". I tried to reformat it and it wouldn't work… "cannot create file system fsync input/output-error"
[14:25] <aguitel> is there anyway to install 8.04 in old laptop?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  8.04 is no longer supported
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> or it should be server
[14:27] <OerHeks> aguitel, sure, you can download the cd, and maybe you can have some updates too =, with 'old-releases' >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[14:27] <aguitel> MonkeyDust, i know ,but i need some old distro to support old hardware
[14:27] <pseudonymous> ActionParsnip: probably some damned ppa screwing it all up. I should've known that there's no free lunch
[14:27] <Ndushi> Anyone have an idea to solve my problem?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  i'm sure 12.04 supports your hardware
[14:28] <OerHeks> Ndushi, no, sounds like a hardware problem
[14:28] <aguitel> i return in 2 hours ,thanks
[14:30] <Evdb> Hey guys! I need some help, again
[14:30] <pseudonymous> Ok - is there a way to see WHICH packages it thinks I'm holding back and which are choking a certain install so I don't go willy nilly nuking java, wine, gimp 2.8 etc just to make apt happy again ?
[14:32] <insomniaSalt> hi all
[14:32] <Evdb> I finally managed to run Ubuntu live from a bootable USB. It seemed like I installed Ubuntu although at the end of the installer i got a problem that GRUB wasn't able to install in the root. When I now try to boot into Ubuntu using rEFIt it give the error 'missing software'. Anyone can help?
[14:32] <anxel> hello
[14:32] <insomniaSalt> so I've been very very stupid and accidentally tried to mount a partition onto itself in /etc/fstab
[14:33] <insomniaSalt> any way to recover?
[14:33] <anxel> someone helps me to install fmod in ubuntu please?
[14:33] <Evdb> bekks: ya here? :P
[14:33] <bazhang> anxel, what is fmod
[14:34] <anxel> its a sound library
[14:34] <entity999> bazhang; anxel have Ubuntu, but don't have fmod in repos
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> found: pdfmod
[14:34] <entity999> lubuntu*
[14:34] <bazhang> anxel, to achieve what
[14:34] <Guest53605> hello
[14:34] <anxel> correct, i dont have fmod in repos
[14:34] <entity999> bazhang; to have game working
[14:34] <entity999> :)
[14:35] <Evdb> Come on anyone I need this really bad
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !refit
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> gah
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> !info refit
[14:40] <Evdb> Please someone :(
[14:40] <bazhang> !helpme | Evdb
[14:40] <dr_willis> please what?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Evdb  as soon as someone enters who can help, s/he most probably will
[14:41] <Evdb> I'm sorry but I have been trying from yesterday morning to get this to work  need it to get working for school
[14:41] <dr_willis> never used refit. so no ides
[14:41] <Evdb> Are there refit alternatives for mac?
[14:42] <oldskool_> Hey I am trying to put my vm image on a seperate hd .. how to do point to another hard drive?  I use virt-manager
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> oh, mac
[14:42] <pseudonymous> Ok, I have a *really* central package overwritten by a ppa which I've already removed as it holds up some upgrades. If I try to force the official precise pkg from synaptic it gives me a mile long list of packages it'll nuke. I don't want that, why the heck can't it see that there's no way these packages can't stay on the system ?
[14:42] <akis> i am trying to run activity-log-manager through terminal because i cannot run it click in on it and i amgetting the followin message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224612/. why? previously it run well.
[14:42]  * insomniaSalt recovered his partitions, thanks and bye.
[14:42] <pseudonymous> (and yes, the majority of the packages it wants to remove are not related to that ppa in the SLIGHTEST, but are other, official precise, packages..)
[14:43] <snwh> pseudonymous, could you be more specific?
[14:44] <bazhang> pseudonymous, tried ppa-purge yet?
[14:44] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | pseudonymous
[14:44] <pseudonymous> snwh: as in, I have a zlib1g package from a ppa called izx-bleeding-precise and if I try to (within synaptic) force that package back to the official ubuntu precise version, it seriously suggests removing **xorg** what kind of.. BLEEPING retarded suggestion is that ?
[14:45] <snwh> pseudonymous, you could trying installing ppa-purge and using that from the terminal.
[14:45] <pseudonymous> bazhang: I removed the ppa itself using a gui(I'm lazy like that) called YPPA. Seems like it's gone though the packages it's overwritten are still there
[14:47] <OerHeks> pseudonymous, use ppa-purge.
[14:48] <OerHeks> pseudonymous, if it still messes up your system, contact the owner of the ppa.
[14:48] <pseudonymous> OerHeks: (excuse my growing frustration) I just tried, but "ppa-purge izx-bleeding-precise" ends up showing the help message displayed when you muck up a command instructing me to type exactly what I did( as far as I can see).. tried the -p switch too, but no mas
[14:49] <jrib> pseudonymous: did you try with the "ppa:" part?
[14:49] <gau1991> Hello
[14:49] <OerHeks> pseudonymous, no need for an option,  sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>
[14:50] <pseudonymous> "ppa-purge ppa:izx-bleeding-precise" does not work
[14:50] <_XMENDES> hy guys.. i need help. You know what program use to be movies server to a WDtv Live?
[14:51] <jrib> pseudonymous: 1) you should pastebin exact error/output 2) are you sure that's the right name of the ppa?
[14:51] <mach-bar> find /etc/ -type l -ls
[14:51] <mach-bar> oh shit, that was long time ago...
[14:52] <_XMENDES> anyone?
[14:52] <jrib> !helpme | _XMENDES
[14:52] <_XMENDES> ok
[14:52] <mach-bar> !repeat
[14:52] <_XMENDES> You know what program use to be movies server to a WDtv Live?
[14:52] <jrib> _XMENDES: please wait a reasonable time before repeating...
[14:52] <_XMENDES> ok
[14:53] <jrib> _XMENDES: I have no idea what WDtv Live is
[14:53] <_XMENDES> so sorry
[14:53] <captine> _XMENDES, is WDtv a dlna compliant thing?
[14:53] <oldskool_> ubottu: please help me
[14:53] <oldskool_> ubottu: can you help me
[14:53] <_XMENDES> wdtv is like appletv our boxe
[14:54] <Pricey> oldskool_: I think you might be able to use symlinks to achieve this. I'm pretty sure virt-manager likes all of its images in one place... have you googled?
[14:54] <oldskool_> Pricey: seriously?
[14:54] <Pricey> oldskool_: Oh, you just need to add a new storage pool... http://virt-manager.org/page/StorageManagement
[14:55] <_XMENDES> its a media center..
[14:55] <oldskool_> Pricey: I want to avoid that because then I am running the vm server and the vm images on the same drive and it bottle necks it...
[14:55] <oldskool_> Pricey: Thank you sec
[14:56] <pseudonymous> Well, figures.. I (curtesy of YPPA) mucked about enough to understand I had to type ppa:izx/bleeding.  What sort of retarded system suggests nuking some 200 packages where almost ALL of them should be able to continue existing as they are stock ubuntu packages and therefore shouldn't REQUIRE some ppa version ?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> mental note to self: prejudice toward PPAs confirmed
[14:58] <Devin> blackshirt: your still here?
[14:58] <jrib> pseudonymous: downgrading isn't actually supported
[14:58] <pseudonymous> jrib: actually, I did go ahead and re-add the ppa because I was thinking the same thing: ppa-purge probably expected the ppa to be present.
[14:58] <captine> _XMENDES, the website says it can connect to network drives.  Couldnt you setup a share?
[14:59] <JoseAntonio> any body help me?
[14:59] <jrib> pseudonymous: my guess is that ppa purge and multiarch don't play nice
[14:59] <pseudonymous> jrib: really ? If so they might as well chuck the whole ppa thing out the window.  I can understand other issues, sure. But not being able to realize that the packages that these things are built against are available.. That's just plain retarded.
[14:59] <Sidewinder1> !ppa
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> That was for the 'warning' aspect.
[15:00] <pseudonymous> Yea ok, that disclaimer is lawyerese, a cop-out. They're hosted by Canonical, the infrastructure is official etc etc etc..
[15:00] <jrib> pseudonymous: PPAs are just repositories kindly hosted by launchpad; the same warnings apply as with any 3rd party repository
[15:01] <pseudonymous> Ugh.. yay.. god knows how many hours it'll take setting everything up from scratch.
[15:01] <hay> hi all.. when I try to apt-get remove dovecot-core, I get messages like: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists", "invoke-rc.d: initscript dovecot, action "stop" failed." ... and then "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"... how can I remove dovecot package? thx
[15:01] <jrib> pseudonymous: this is what you used: https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/bleeding ?
[15:01] <needhelp1> hello, im using a 64bit version of ubuntu, and im installing the brother printer driver found here for 32 bit http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104   , when installing its installed a ton of i386 stuff, is this going to be an issue?
[15:02]  * Sidewinder1 Has never used a ppa; that said, hopes he never will, call me 'old-fashioned', if you choose.
[15:02] <pseudonymous> Meh. They're hosted officially, that means they gain acceptance, acceptance which makes it into guides on doing stuff for ubuntu (it's no. 1 asset, IMHO) so.. I just don't accept the cop-out of them being unsupported. A feature maintained is implicitly supported. If it's broken you remove it
[15:02] <pseudonymous> jrib: yes
[15:02] <g00denough> needhelp1: shouldn't harm, those are needed since brother offers no amd64-packages :(
[15:03] <jrib> pseudonymous: start by removing those first 4 packages (just apt-get remove them) (everything except zlib).  Does that not do anything drastic?
[15:03] <pseudonymous> Sidewinder1: well you shouldn't either, or you get this mess, apparently
[15:03] <needhelp1> g00denough: any idea if there is anything i can do to get this printer driver added into the "add a printer" openprinting tool.
[15:03] <afd> Just got a Project Manager job where the rest of the team is on Campfire (mainly Mac users) and I want to hang on to Ubuntu... Anyone know of a client so I'm not stuck in the browser?
[15:03] <Elesa> Hi, what's the difference between Online Accounts accounts and Broadcast accounts in Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:03] <genii-around> hay: sudo stop dovecot && sudo /etc/init.d/dovecot start          then try removing the package again
[15:03] <g00denough> needhelp1: no idea
[15:04] <afd> or whether I can connect to Campfire using Empathy?
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> pseudonymous, Just in case there was any doubt in your mind about me being old-fashioned, I'm still using 10.04.
[15:04] <hay> genii-around, thx... that worked!
[15:04] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[15:05] <Pricey> afd: http://bit.ly/RWPK4m
[15:05] <genii-around> hay: You're welcome.
[15:05] <dr_willis> needhelp1:  you did check the repos to be sure the drivers were not in some oficial package? or a ppa perhaps. the ia32lib stuff shouldent hurt anything,
[15:05] <hay> what's the easiest way to solve this: "php5-ldap : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 is to be installed"?
[15:05] <pseudonymous> jrib: only had some version of the gwaei package which I then removed, the others (mtr, munin, powertop) it says I don't have.
[15:05] <afd> Pricey - I did DuckDuckGo first... but thanks :)
[15:06] <jrib> hay: the easiest way to solve it is to know what was done regarding unofficial repositories and unofficial packages
[15:06] <Pricey> afd: hmm... 8th result... I'll stick to Google for a while :P
[15:06] <Pricey> afd: Also, sorry :-)
[15:06] <jrib> pseudonymous: ok, now we must finesse zlib.  What's the result of « apt-cache policy zlib »?
[15:06] <needhelp1> dr_willis: I just searched around online and found some ubuntu forums post's to use the brother prop driver installer. im assuming the 100 + i386 lib's it installed wont hurt anything
[15:07] <jrib> pseudonymous: uh, before you do that, run a « sudo apt-get update »
[15:07] <dr_willis> needhelp1: those are 32bit support stuff
[15:07] <pseudonymous> jrib: there's no zlib, actually.. The package (checked via synaptic) is zlib1g (and zlib1g-dev)
[15:08] <jrib> pseudonymous: right, check those
[15:08] <Elesa> Hi, what's the difference between Online Accounts accounts and Broadcast accounts in Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:08] <nekthar_> Can I ask questions in here? I need some help
[15:08] <pseudonymous> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224654/ :)
[15:08] <zmyrgel> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu to dual boot with vista
[15:09] <zmyrgel> but some reason the installer won't find my disk partitions
[15:09] <jrib> pseudonymous: actually, you need to click on the arrow to the left of "zlib" at ttps://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/bleeding/+packages and check each of those packages
[15:09] <zmyrgel> gparted finds the partitions and I created linux partitions but still the installer doesn't list them
[15:09] <nekthar_> I'll just go ahead and ask away after Kakkar
[15:09] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, use the manual partitioning
[15:09] <Pricey> Elesa: I 'think' broadcast accounts are most social media type things... where you want to 'broadcast' your status.. twitter/facebook etc.
[15:09] <nekthar_> Oh, he left
[15:09] <nekthar_> I'd like to ask
[15:10] <Pricey> Elesa: I 'think' online accounts are more instant messenging type things...
[15:10] <_XMENDES>  i want put my movies on a ubuntu folder and open with WDTV. did anyone knows what program use for this?
[15:10] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: how to get the installer to proceed them?
[15:10] <hay> jrib, I just used some other source to install some packages... the version mismatch is very small...
[15:10] <jrib> hay: :x
[15:10] <hay> :)
[15:11] <Pricey> _XMENDES: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Media#UPnP_sharing_with_uShare (A google suggests wdtv works with dlna devices in the same way as the xbox)
[15:11] <Pricey> _XMENDES: actually ignore those instructions!!! ushare should be part of the standard repository..
[15:11] <Pricey> !info ushare
[15:11] <nekthar_> I have a Windows7 PC, an Ubuntu netbook, and now an Ubuntu desktop. I installed Ubuntu on both the netbook and desktop at the same time. I configured my wireless connection to both, and connected fine. The netbook can see and ping the Windows pc and vice versa. Unfortunately, despite being connected to the net, the desktop can not ping or be pinged. What can I do?
[15:11] <_XMENDES> i ready have this installed??
[15:11] <pseudonymous> jrib: ok, the expanded paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224659/
[15:12] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, try the manual option , conmtinue
[15:12] <Pricey> _XMENDES: I'd look into ushare. "sudo apt-get install ushare".
[15:12] <BluesKaj> oops sorry zykotick9
[15:12] <_XMENDES> will try.. tks
[15:13] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, try the manual option , continue
[15:13] <jrib> pseudonymous: ok.  What I would do is just plain remove all of the -dev packages because those won't take anything with them.  Then of the remaining that you have installed, you can issue: sudo apt-get -t precise install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 ...
[15:13] <SaCruM> Hello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.
[15:13] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: what do you mean by manual option?
[15:13] <gorgonzola> hello peoples. I'm getting a "Icedtea is out of date" message in chrome, but i have made sure that i have icetea-7-plugin installed. is anybody aware of any packaging problems?
[15:13] <zmyrgel> I've got the livecd desktop and the graphical installer won't let me continue
[15:14] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, on the partitioning page , there should be a manual option / button
[15:14] <SaCruM> Hello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.
[15:14] <jrib> pseudonymous: I need to step out for ~15 minutes
[15:14] <pseudonymous> jrib: I'm sort of confused.. "apt-get -t precise PKG ..... " you want to do that BEFORE removing the existing packages and hope apt just installs them ?
[15:14] <Elesa> thanks Pricey  :D
[15:15] <pseudonymous> jrib: oh ok. I'll probably wait before I kill my OS ;)
[15:15] <Pricey> pseudonymous: I believe -t will ensure you have ubuntu's version of it, not any ppa etc.
[15:15] <Pricey> well, '-t precise'.
[15:15] <jrib> pseudonymous: I am suggesting you remove the -dev packages you have installed on that list (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224659/), then of the remaning packages that say "Installed: SOME_VERSION_HERE", you write down those packages and give them to the command: apt-get -t precise install PUT_THOSE_NON_DEV_PACKAGES_YOU_HAVE_INSTALLED_HERE
[15:16] <SaCruM> Hello, could someone tell me a site where i could download filters like instagram for Gimp for ubuntu? Thank you.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, I assume you're installing as we speak ?
[15:16] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: the installer gives me the Installation Type page but it has "create partition" etc. greyed so. It only allows to select "Disk where to install boot loader" option
[15:17] <zmyrgel> And the partition section is empty. If I start the gparted it find the partitions I've made to it
[15:17] <zmyrgel> NTFS, ext2, swap and a  ext4 partition
[15:18] <zetheroo> when I am on Pidgin and the other guy is n Gtalk (Windows), both on our Google accounts, I can make an Audio call, but if we are both on Pidgin with our Google account there is no longer the option to Audio call ...
[15:18] <pseudonymous> Hmm just tried that and it's insistant on nuking my system, even the -dev packages have LOADS of requirements attached to them. Some of which I use for C++ development. I think it's better I just give up. Time to distro hop to some distro where the package manager isn't a total dependency nazi (!)
[15:18] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, you don't see the autopartition option , or a manual option , if I recall the manual choice is at the bottom of the list
[15:18] <pseudonymous> jrib: that said - when you get back--- THANKS FOR TRYING
[15:18] <gyre007> I wonder if I can upgrade just certain package rather than the whole system...will apt-get install upgrade pkg_name do ?
[15:19] <gorgonzola> anyone else having problems with Java in oneiric? I'm getting a "plugin out of date" message in chrome and firefox...
[15:20] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, what is the name of the plugin?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> gyre007  every release uses its own package versions
[15:20] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: nope, I just installed ubuntu just fine on a laptop
[15:20] <gorgonzola> OerHeks: chrome complains explicitly about icedtea. firefox just dies silently.
[15:21] <gyre007> MonkeyDust, withing the same release...
[15:21] <gyre007> ie upgrade just one package on 11.10
[15:21] <gorgonzola> OerHeks, and hrome sends me to the icedtea wiki
[15:21] <gyre007> not the whole distro
[15:21] <gyre007> neither all packages
[15:21] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, chrome renders java by itself, no need for icedtea
[15:22] <gorgonzola> OerHeks really? then why is my chrome refusing to run java and blaming the plugin? should i remove icedtea and see what happens?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> gyre007  I rephrase: each release has its own repos, software from outside the repos is not supported
[15:22] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, see the !java factoid howto select your java version
[15:22] <OerHeks> !java
[15:23] <gorgonzola> OerHeks, aight, i'll go read an brb. thanks
[15:23] <gyre007> MonkeyDust, so there is no way to upgrade the package youre sayin...
[15:24] <dr_willis> within the same release kt should be possiblre,
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> gyre007  it is, as long as it is in the release's repos
[15:24] <AdvoWork> would time stop an rsync, ie: time rsync -azx --stats --progress -numeric-ids --bwlimit=500 /mnt/test/ /mnt/test2  it says "DRY RUN" at the end?
[15:24] <gyre007> dr_willis, i hope it is...
[15:24] <dr_willis> but any updates are security updates for thr most part. i dont see why you wouldent update the while system
[15:25] <gorgonzola> OerHeks, ok, so java i set java to use open-jdk 7, and restarted chrome, but it still throws the same error.
[15:25] <dr_willis> you could just remove/reinstall the app you want to update
[15:25] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, guess ubiquity isn't what it used to be
[15:26] <OerHeks> gorgonzola, again: chrome renders java by itself, use an other browser
[15:27] <gorgonzola> OerHeks: independently of how chrome is known to work, in this machine it is throwing a message about icedtea being out of date. Firefox just doesn't run java, and throws no message. I on't want to use another browser. Do ou think uninstalling icedtea would work?
[15:28] <gorgonzola> OerHeks: rekonq behaves similarly, fyi.
[15:28] <dr_willis> whats throwing the message about icedtea being out of date?
[15:28] <gorgonzola> chrome
[15:28] <jrib> pseudonymous: what did you type?
[15:29] <gorgonzola> dr_willis: no browser runs any java plugin, but chrome is the only one that blames icedtea.
[15:29] <dr_willis> jrib:  i think he gave up.
[15:29] <zmyrgel> BluesKaj: ran sudo dmraid -rE and now the installer find the disk
[15:30] <BluesKaj> zmyrgel, so you are on a raid ..., that's differnt
[15:30] <AaronCampbell> I tried "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"" to allow icons in the panel (like Skype)
[15:30] <AaronCampbell> That's all I remember having to do in 12.04.  Am I missing something or did it change in 12.10?
[15:31] <jrib> !12.10 | AaronCampbell
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> AaronCampbell  are you in 12.10?
[15:31] <dr_willis> AaronCampbell:  its very likely it has changed.
[15:31] <Ishitva> Hello respectable friends ! I am a beginner , I want to install Ubuntu alongwith Windows 7 . I have only one partition on my hard disk. Please guide me with the process ?
[15:31] <AaronCampbell> ubottu: But only if it's actually related to 12.10 :|  I'm just not sure.
[15:31] <AaronCampbell> jrib: But only if it's actually related to 12.10 :|  I'm just not sure.
[15:32] <jrib> AaronCampbell: #ubuntu+1 is the right place to ask for help if you are on 12.10
[15:32] <AaronCampbell> I remember having to do something, I thought that was it, but it's been about 6 months since I had to do it
[15:32] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  first thing to do would be backup any imporant data. and be sure you got your windows restore disks. just in case
[15:33] <Ishitva> dr_willis: do I need to create a seperate partition for Ubuntu ?
[15:33] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  thats normally done by the installer.
[15:34] <Ishitva> dr_willis:  How do we partition the disks ?
[15:34] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  it would be an odd windows install these days that only has one partition
[15:34] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  done by the installer.... it can partition
[15:35] <Ishitva> dr_willis: please guide me , how to partition ?
[15:35] <_XMENDES> there is a program to remote acess like win vnc for ubuntu?
[15:35] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  you do have backups made, and restore disks made?
[15:35] <arnotixe> hi all how do I connect to display 0 when only lightdm is running ? Ubuntu 13. Tried logging in with ssh and reverse-connecting the machine with x11vnc -connect <remote> -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 but it barfs with ̈́XOpenDisplay("0") failed'
[15:35] <jrib> !vnc | _XMENDES
[15:35] <Ishitva> dr_willis: no not yet
[15:36] <jrib> arnotixe: no such thing as "ubuntu 13"
[15:36] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  you do have a ubuntu desktop cd made to install from?
[15:36] <arnotixe> jrib, hehe ups it's 12.04.1 LTS
[15:36] <jrib> !vnc | arnotixe
[15:36] <jrib> arnotixe: see if that's helpful
[15:37] <arnotixe> thanks i'll have a look
[15:37] <ring0> jrib, linut mint is at number 13. so, maybe he's not really into ubuntu ;)
[15:37] <Ishitva> dr_willis: I have downloaded Ubuntu 12 image ( 32 Bit) , but a friend of mine is saying that 64 bit is better , but since Ubuntu 12 64 bit has some bugs he has advised me to download Ubuntu 11.1 version
[15:37] <crizis> huh
[15:37] <_XMENDES> i have a win station, i can control ubuntu by this? using vnc?
[15:38] <jrib> ring0: heh
[15:38] <dr_willis> i always use 64bit on hardware that supports 64bit Ishitva .
[15:38] <crizis> Ishitva, just download 12.04 and ignore him :P
[15:38] <Juze> _XMENDES: There are a lot of VNC apps for Windows too
[15:38] <Juze> And yes, download 12.04 x64
[15:38] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  i dont know what 'bugs' you would be refering to
[15:38] <_XMENDES> ok .. i will try .. tks
[15:38] <Ishitva> dr_willis: but even on the downloads page , it is mentioned that 32 bit is recommended ;/
[15:39] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  thats for people that have no clue what their hardware is..
[15:39] <dr_willis> ie: its idiot-proofing
[15:39] <auronandace> Ishitva: 32bit is only recommended because it works on both 32 and 64bit processors
[15:39] <Ishitva> dr_willis: okay !
[15:40] <Ishitva> auronandace , dr_willis  Then I am downloading the 12 version :)
[15:40] <arnotixe> jrib, thanks I read everything and - it works as long as someone logged in to the machine I'd like to control. But if only lightdm is "logged in"=running X on :0, then the connection fails...
[15:40] <jrib> arnotixe: which vnc server are you using?
[15:41] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  there some reason you need to see the 'current visible' desktop? thats just one way vnc can work.
[15:41] <nekthar_> My newly installed Ubuntu desktop can access the internet, but can not ping or be pinged by any other pc on the network. Can anyone offer me any assistance?
[15:42] <arnotixe> jrib, it's x11vnc.
[15:42] <Ishitva> dr_willis: what to do after making a bootable disk or pen drive ?
[15:42] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  backup your system.. and boot it..
[15:42] <x-warrior> I'm behing a firewall that just let me use, 443 and 80 ports. I created at my server a ssh server on port 443, so I can create a ssh -D (tunnel) to send all my connections. It is working fine on Firefox. But now, I want to use rdesktop via this tunnel (like a proxy), is it possible?
[15:42] <arnotixe> dr_willis, I just wanted to complete the thunderbird setup on one of the users. But I need that user to login first...
[15:42] <Juze> Ishitva: Boot from it?
[15:43] <Ishitva> juze okay I 'll do it as soon as I complete the download of version 12
[15:43] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  you can install tightvnc or other vnc servers, and connect to a 'hidden' desktop. and login as that user. no need for the more complex x11vnc
[15:43] <Juze> By the way, generic dumb question, but how does wget accept a list of URLs to mirror? -D parameter? I couldn't get it to work with *example.com/example/*
[15:43] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  or use ssh/x forwarding to run thunderbird to set it up
[15:43] <Devin_> Hey can anyone in here give me a hand with kernel compiling and update
[15:43] <jrib> arnotixe: did you check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers ?
[15:43] <Ishitva> dr_willis:  Please also guide how to backup my system , I am a beginner thats why I don't know many things .
[15:44] <arnotixe> dr_willis, that's a good idea; didn't cross my mind with -X to ssh although I did use it before.
[15:44] <dr_willis> !backup | Ishitva
[15:44] <jrib> arnotixe: if you want to stick with x11vnc, there's a section there about "connecting to your login screen"
[15:44] <dr_willis> Ishitva:  i image my whole windows hd. and keep it safe. ;)
[15:44] <OerHeks> !kernel | Devin_
[15:44] <arnotixe> dr_willis, I've only ever used x11vnc for reverse connect; I'll try tightvnc now
[15:45] <Juze> Ishitva: At most simple way, copy (ctrl + c) paste (ctrl + v) your most important files to an USB stick or external hard drive, or use Windows's own image tools
[15:45] <Ishitva> dr_willis: okay thanks !
[15:45] <Ishitva> Juze thanks !
[15:45] <dr_willis> arnotixe:  i just ssh in as the user, run vncserver, then connect with a vncclient.
[15:45] <Juze> If you want a 100% copy, then use the image tools
[15:45] <Devin_> ubottu: its for my assignment I need to
[15:46] <OerHeks> Devin_, i am not going to do your homework, all info you need is in the compile url.
[15:46] <ikonia> Devin_: if it's for a school project, talk to your teacher who set the assignemnt
[15:46] <Devin_> ikonia: its bonus so I am on the web
[15:46] <ikonia> Devin_: so speak to the teacher
[15:47] <Devin_> ikonia: I would but then I wouldn't get the bonus
[15:47] <Evdb> Hey guys
[15:47] <Evdb> Still in huge problems
[15:47] <Juze> Are we a spoonfeeding channel?
[15:47] <ikonia> Devin_: what do you wish to change in the kernel ?
[15:47] <ikonia> Juze: depends, you can have as much/little help as you want/need
[15:47] <Devin_> i already downloaded from kernel.org
[15:48] <ikonia> Devin_: not what I asked, what do you want to change in the kernel
[15:48] <Evdb> Is the grub boot menu the pink screen with the white highlighted options?
[15:48] <OerHeks> Devin_, you should reed the compile url, for putting your name in the header :-D
[15:48] <Juze> Yes
[15:48] <Devin_> ikonia: I don't need to change anything in the kernel other than, find an updated kernel, not the newest and change the kernel version string name
[15:48] <Juze> Evdb, yes it is
[15:49] <ikonia> Devin_: ok so you understand that changing the kernel version may break your distro ?
[15:49] <Evdb> Juze: I get that but when I choose Ubuntu blbla generic it gives kernel panic
[15:49] <Devin_> OerHeks: where do I find that
[15:49] <Evdb> juze: I'm soo close to getting ubunto work on my mbp
[15:49] <Devin_> ikonia: absolutly I am on a VM
[15:49] <Evdb> *ubuntu
[15:49] <ikonia> Devin_:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[15:49] <Juze> Evdb: Tried using another kernel?
[15:49] <Evdb> Juze: how should I? Totally new
[15:49] <ikonia> Devin_: all the info is in there
[15:50] <Juze> Evdb: Someone else can advise, a little busy over here
[15:50] <Devin_> ikonia: Ok I hadn't found this one yet let me read through it and see if it helps
[15:50] <Evdb> juze: hmm kay damn need this to work
[15:51] <ClientAlive> I'm having a problem using merge with unison on my ubuntu system. I've tried several things I can think of but get one error or another from unison. Can someone help me find where I'm going wrong with this? Here are pastes of two files involved: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/   AND   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/   These, I'm trying to use in connection wtih a profile called "local_sync_storage.prf"  That file contains only roots and
[15:51] <ClientAlive> paths and It did work fine on it's own (before I started trying to do all this other stuff).
[15:51] <Evdb> So @ all other people: After about 15 hours of trying I think I managed to install Ubutu on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that I choose Ubuntu generic in grub and it gives kernel panic$
[15:52] <Evdb> Up until now i've only been able to boot in live, never booted in real installed OS
[15:52] <Devin_> ikonia: Ok I have read the Kernel/Compile page already
[15:52] <Devin_> ikonia: I am supposed to download from kernel.org
[15:53] <ikonia> Devin_: then what does it tell you to do
[15:53] <ClientAlive> sorry, this is the link to the second "default.prf" file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224724/
[15:54] <ClientAlive> The other file is "common"
[15:54] <Devin_> ikonia: It seems like in the tutorial it gives you an apt get command and then after you have a linux-source-<versionname> tar.bz2 then its extracted and you have a boot folder
[15:55] <_XMENDES> how i list programs in use?
[15:55] <Devin_> ikonia: But the tar.bz2 I downloaded and extracted from kernel.org does not have the boot folder
[15:55] <ikonia> Devin_: with respet, I think this is out of your current abilities grasp, and I'd not go for the extra credit
[15:55] <ring0> _XMENDES, top
[15:55] <Devin_> ikonia: So I can't find the config
[15:55] <_XMENDES> tks :)
[15:55] <ikonia> Devin_: that's not how it works, I think this is a little beyond your experience at this time
[15:56] <Ishitva> dr_willis: Juze : auronandace : Thanks for your help friends , I am going offline right now , I will come back whenever I need you guidance !
[15:56] <jrib> ClientAlive: you should say what the errors are
[15:56] <Devin_> ikonia: well let me ask you this, if you HAD to do a kernel update from kernel.org, how would you start after downloading your zipped package and extracting
[15:57] <dr_willis> !kernel > Devin_
[15:57] <Devin_> ikonia: Also I know that I am new to linux/unix/ubuntu but I am not new to troubleshooting and computers, and I am still enjoying myself and thats what matters so I appreciate your advice but I would like to continue
[15:57] <ikonia> Devin_: I'd say "you're trying ot get me to do your home work for you for extra credit" - that's what I'd say
[15:57] <dr_willis> start by reading the bots urls it gave you. ;)
[15:57] <jrib> Devin_: the page on the wiki has instructions for building a kernel from git.  I suggest you follow those, trying to understand all of it.  Then after you've done that, I think you will know what to do.  If not, you can come back and ask for more details
[15:57] <OerHeks> Devin_, i would read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile#C.29_Download_the_source_package but you don't want to, so you earn no points.
[15:57] <ikonia> Devin_: troubleshooting computers and troubleshooting linux are nothing like the same so have no relevence
[15:58] <ikonia> Devin_: compiling the kernel is an advacned topic - so I suggest you not attempt it at this time, more so as you're struggling to grasp the fundementals listed on the introduction page
[15:58] <Devin_> OerHeks: I don't have a debian folder though
[15:58] <ikonia> Devin_: because you go the kernel from kernel.org
[15:58] <dr_willis> err.. make one?
[15:58] <ClientAlive> jrib: ok, well the last thing I did was write a line at the top of the file: "local_sync_storage.prf" then try to run that profile throught the unison gui. The line I added was "include common"  The error I get is: garbled line, no =" Then I went back into that file and put an = in between so the line looks like: "include = common" and the error I get is: "File "local_sync_storage", line 32: `include' is not a valid option"
[15:58] <ikonia> whch is not what the instructions say
[15:58] <d3bug> hello ppl
[15:59] <janusian> Hi,
[15:59] <genii-around> !mainline
[15:59] <jrib> ClientAlive: you should not have an "=" in the include line
[15:59] <Devin_> ikonia: and let me just say im sorry, I don't want you to do my hw, I am just looking for some advice, I don't mean to be rude
[15:59] <ClientAlive> jrib: The reason is before I wrote that line in "local_sync_storage.prf" when there was no include at all) unison would say there is no merge set for the profile.
[15:59] <ikonia> Devin_: the advice is writen in that web page
[16:00] <ikonia> Devin_: it walks you through it, but it does assume you have a certain level of understanding
[16:00] <ClientAlive> jrib: I've tried both ways (the way without the = as well)
[16:00] <TiZ> Hi. I work for a law college, and we purchased a Planar PT3285PW touchscreen to use with an ubuntu-powered web kiosk. The problem is, the touchscreen works fine for a few minutes, but then stops sending mouse button events. If you plug in a regular mouse, clicks from it don't work either. What's going on here?
[16:00] <jrib> ClientAlive: how are you calling unison?
[16:00] <janusian> I'm experiencing a series of problems with running Ubuntu 12.04 on an Asus M5A78L-M motherboard. Most of them seem to be with respect to the on-board ATI Radeon HD3000 and Ubuntu's various drivers for it (both open source and proprietary).
[16:00] <Devin_> ikonia: I know I keep reading different pages, but nothing is an exact walkthrough of what I am trying to do, all of that is based off of you using the apt get command which gives you a boot folder and a config file, my downloaded folder from kernel.org has non of that
[16:00] <ClientAlive> through the gui right now but want to add cron jobs once I get all the kinks worked out.
[16:01] <ikonia> Devin_: because there is no walk through, it requires EXPERIENCE
[16:01] <jrib> ClientAlive: where do you specify the roots?
[16:01] <ClientAlive> in the "local_sync_storage.prf" file.
[16:01] <janusian> On first install, the system was working ok and, gave me the option to install "Additional Drivers". I went ahead and did that. After that point, I can't get video to playback properly.
[16:01] <ikonia> Devin_: the instructions don't tell you to download from kernel.org - so why are you ignoring the instructions and doing that ?
[16:01] <ikonia> Devin_: follow the instructions
[16:02] <ikonia> Devin_: however I suspect you will still struggle/fail because it requires a basic level of experience at least
[16:02] <ikonia> Devin_: that's not a put down, that's just a reality check
[16:02] <janusian> The screen flickers, whenever I move between desktops and generally, I am getting a crap graphics experience..
[16:02] <jrib> honestly, it only understands reading and thinking about what is read :x
[16:02] <janusian> I've looked online, but I can't seem to find any answers for reverting my ubuntu back to its initial state
[16:02] <Marezz> Howdy folks
[16:02] <Devin_> ikonia: No, I know its not the way it instructs me to, my assignment requiresme to
[16:02] <janusian> (I tried purging the fglrx)
[16:03] <ikonia> Devin_: then you can't get it done.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> janusian, did you reboot after installing the drivers ? i have to ask
[16:03] <ikonia> Devin_: you don't get extra credit.
[16:03] <Marezz> whats the name of the default 10.04 LTS theme?
[16:03] <ikonia> Devin_: good effort for trying, but it's a little out of reach at this time
[16:03] <janusian> BluesKaj, yep, I've been trying out various drivers/"solutions"
[16:03] <Marezz> booted 10.04 lts yesterday, man how it looked great
[16:03] <QuantumQrack> Can somebody help me please:  I am trying to get ubuntu desktop 64bit to boot off a usb stick.  When it tries to load, it goes through the loading process then eventually I get a message "rebooting in 30 seconds"  and it reboots...and never really loads.  Just reboots, tries to load, get the rebooting message, the reboot, load, etc etc.  Will this not load on an overclocked CPU?
[16:03] <ClientAlive> jrib: the "default.prf" file contains only one line "include = common" and I've tried that withouth the = too. The common file has just a list of preferences set (stuff like merge and mergebatch and so on
[16:03] <Devin_> Ok I am going to follow jribs advice and see if I can read the tutuorial about upgrading from git and see if that helps at all
[16:04] <jrib> Devin_: ignore the assignment for now and do it the way the page says... so you can learn something :)  Then it will be easier
[16:04] <Devin_> jrib: thanks
[16:04] <jrib> ClientAlive: but you need to specify what paths you want unison to operate on
[16:04] <Marezz> whats the name of the default 10.04 LTS theme?
[16:04] <janusian> Ubuntu just doesn't seem to like any of the graphics cards I have. I used to use an nvidia card, but that wasn't compatible with Compiz (so didn't do anything fancy) and now this ati is compatible, but it retards my whole system as a result.
[16:04] <edgy> Hi, # ls -ld /var/
[16:04] <edgy> drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Sep 22 06:42 /var/, so /var is modified 2 days ago, what does this mean?
[16:04] <ClientAlive> jrib: in the "local_sync_storage.prf" file is where roots are specified
[16:05] <Evdb> After about 15 hours of trying I think I managed to install Ubutu on my MacBook Pro. The only problem is that I choose Ubuntu generic in grub and it gives kernel panic
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: I don't think you've pastebinned that (your original message had 2 identical URLs)
[16:05] <BluesKaj> janusian, some ppl have had success with the proprietary divers for ATI/Radeon from their website , but I'm not sure if that would apply in your case
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224722/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1224724/ is what I see
[16:05] <ClientAlive> jrib: I can pm that link to you if it's ok
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: put it here in case others are following
[16:05] <ClientAlive> pers stuff in there (sort of)
[16:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: oh.  ok.
[16:06] <Marezz> Did AMD drop support for HD 4650?
[16:06] <ClientAlive> well..
[16:06] <ClientAlive> thx
[16:06] <Juze> Generic wget question: Does wget support URL wildcards and how?
[16:06] <janusian> BluesKaj, I am currently running the proprietary drivers ... They have corrected the problem with video (for VLC anyway, totem doesn't work at all).
[16:06] <BluesKaj> janusian, you should need to use compiz on the newer ubuntu OSs
[16:06] <deadmund> Marezz: What do you mean?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> should  not rather , janusian
[16:07] <janusian> The problem now is the tearing between desktop switching and the generally poor animation of window drags and such
[16:07] <Marezz> deadmund: I think I read somewhere that they wont release drivers for it anymore
[16:07] <deadmund> Marezz: Oh!  I think you mean they won't update the driver for it anymore.
[16:07] <janusian> BluesKaj, I was under the assumption that they would be robust enough to try out - with my newer system (my old system was under powered and quite antiquated).
[16:07] <brandt> downloaded update of tor pkg and not sure if it updated on it's own
[16:08] <janusian> I really wouldn't have messed about with Compiz, if I had known this before hand... a lesson in the learning, really.
[16:08] <cmcintosh> is there a way to connect multiple monitors / keyboards to a single desktop and have each running its own session
[16:09] <cmcintosh> so like each has its own xwindows display
[16:09] <BluesKaj> janusian, yes , VLC  ftw , definitely , but isn't compiz a bit long in the tooth for newer systems ?
[16:09] <janusian> BluesKaj, dunno, I just wanted to use the "fancy" desktop cube and rotate functions
[16:09] <janusian> as a result I ended up messing up my system
[16:10] <brandt> need cmnd line for download update install
[16:10] <janusian> I'm now wondering how to get rid of compiz and get back to my initial state.
[16:10] <BluesKaj> janusian, doesn't unity provide that without compiz? , KDE does
[16:10] <OpenIndianaVbox> BluesKaj: unity uses compiz by default
[16:11] <zykotick9> OpenIndianaVbox: actually, unity is a compiz plugin
[16:11] <Evdb> bekks: you here?
[16:11] <janusian> BluesKaj, I was under the impression that compiz was necessary to do such things.
[16:11] <hay> after doing "apt-get install slapd ldap-utils" I get ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Local error (-2) when trying to do ldapadd... any ideas why? thx
[16:12] <AaronCampbell> Is there a users/groups management gui for Unity?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> OpenIndianaVbox, zykotick9 , ok thanks , didn't kow that
[16:12] <janusian> how would I disable compiz?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> know
[16:12] <OpenIndianaVbox> !unity
[16:12] <BluesKaj> janusian, looks like you need compiz
[16:12] <janusian> (btw, I'm no expert in Ubuntu, just a casual user)
[16:12] <bartje> hi guys, anyone else having issues with nautilus-share? I have...
[16:13] <janusian> BluesKaj, is there any way to "restore" the system to an earlier point (ie a point earlier than my compiz muck-up_
[16:13] <janusian> )
[16:13] <janusian> ?
[16:14] <genii-around> TiZ: Might want to disable autosuspend of the USB in sysctl.conf
[16:14] <OpenIndianaVbox> zykotick9: not quite true, you forget about unity2d too
[16:14] <bazhang> janusian, a la system restore?
[16:14] <Reaga> will ubuntu have ads?
[16:14] <ikonia> no
[16:15] <ikonia> it's an operating system
[16:15] <bazhang> Reaga, NO
[16:15] <janusian> bazhang, something like that.
[16:15] <ikonia> it does not have adverts
[16:15] <Reaga> bazhang: yes it will, i read an article saying exactly that
[16:15] <hellslinger> Reaga: stop trolling
[16:15] <BluesKaj> janusian, you probly need to just change the graphics drivers , altho any other app changes will remain
[16:16] <janusian> BluesKaj, how would I return the graphics driver to the original one?
[16:16] <chuckf> Reaga: it will have links to amazon items for sale based on searches you perform using the dash component
[16:16] <OpenIndianaVbox> Reaga: don't believe the hype, its just a lens that lets you search amazon
[16:16] <zykotick9> OpenIndianaVbox: unity2d is a dead project 12.10 won't have it...
[16:17] <Reaga> IMO, amazon is a company and no company should have business involved with ubuntu. its against linux philosophy
[16:17] <bazhang> Reaga, thats enough.
[16:17] <OpenIndianaVbox> zykotick9: as of 12.10 yes, but to say unity is just a compiz plugin is a gross oversimplification
[16:18] <ikonia> Reaga: stop talking nonsense now
[16:18] <BluesKaj> bazhang, could you help janusian , I have to go for a bit ...BBL
[16:18] <ikonia> Reaga: this channel is for ubuntu suppor t- stick to that topic please.
[16:18] <zykotick9> OpenIndianaVbox: that's what Unity is... i don't understand you issue - but i won't comment further.
[16:18] <hellslinger> Reaga is trolling
[16:18] <genii-around> Reaga: Feel free to discuss the merits or not of businesses being involved with linux in #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps, but not here in the support channel.
[16:18] <janusian> BluesKaj, k and thanks for the response :)
[16:18] <OpenIndianaVbox> zykotick9: if it were mearly a plugin then it wouldn't depend on gnome3
[16:18] <TiZ> genii-around: Is there anyway I can do that on boot?
[16:20] <TiZ> Or just, like, turn it off from inside the running system?
[16:25] <d3bug> can anyone tell me how to close a query window in irssi?
[16:26] <ikonia> d3bug:  /close
[16:26] <cprofitt> yes type /unquery
[16:26] <ikonia> d3bug: or /window close
[16:26] <d3bug> thank you
[16:26] <anxel> hello
[16:27] <anxel> alguien me puede ayudar?
[16:27] <anxel> tengo un juego y no me lee la libreria fmod
[16:27] <zykotick9> d3bug: i like /wc myself shorter ;)
[16:28] <anxel> someone helps me to configure fmod in zandronum?
[16:29] <ianp> how do i go about finding a dependency that doesn't exist? can't find it using apt-cache search , google, etc... package is 'tanukiwrapper' and a dependency of apache's activemq...
[16:30] <ximm1> update grub does only create a non-functional ubuntu entry on my wubi installation. I guess this is due to a missing /etc/grub.d/10_lupin . Do you know where to find that file or what else could cause my problem?
[16:30] <designbybeck> I have a install i did Ubuntu Restricted Files, I assume that comes with Java IIRC? And most sites work. However some sites say I don't have Java install and to go to java.com to get it. What does everyone else do in this case?
[16:31] <OpenIndianaVbox> !java | designbybeck
[16:32] <designbybeck> Thank you OpenIndianaVbox.... pros/cons to either JDK or SDK?
[16:32] <xangua> designbybeck: resctricted extras install openjdk, i have no isues with it on any site
[16:32] <designbybeck> xangua:  I tried http://edubuntu.com 's weblive trial
[16:32] <designbybeck> and it didn't like my java I guess
[16:35] <Evdb> Is tere anyone specific willing to help me, it's driving me crzay but time's running short :s I've posted here several times and got an answer from various people, which helped me a lot, I hope I can get just that last push to get it to work...
[16:36] <bazhang> Evdb, ask the channel and see
[16:36] <Evdb> That's what I've done about 10 times :(
[16:37] <designbybeck> ask one more time
[16:39] <bubuntoid> achtung condition!! ubuntu network gives -5 error
[16:40] <Evdb> I have been trying to get Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro for about 15 hours total now. I think I managed to install Ubuntu. When I open Ubuntu in rEFIt, i get a pink window with grey options. I choose Ubuntu but the I get a Kernel panic (timer or something). I really hope there's an easy fix, I'm exhausted and getting a bit crazy too...
[16:41] <gordonjcp> Evdb: sounds like you've not installed ubuntu properly
[16:41] <Evdb> gordonjcp: Do you use a Mac?
[16:41] <gordonjcp> yes
[16:41] <gordonjcp> Evdb: I'm on a Late 2007 MacBook right now
[16:42] <designbybeck> Evdb: yes what gordonjcp said. When you were in refit did you make sure it installed to the correct partition?
[16:42] <Evdb> gordonjcp: ah are you willing to try and help me?
[16:42] <gordonjcp> Evdb: I could try
[16:42] <Evdb> I didn't install it via refit, I opened live USB in refit and installed ubuntu on the free space I made available
[16:42] <gordonjcp> Evdb: you need to create an EFI bootable USB stick
[16:42] <Evdb> I have a bootable USB stick
[16:42] <gordonjcp> at least, that's what worked for me
[16:42] <Evdb> This loads ubuntu
[16:42] <Evdb> I can try or install
[16:43] <bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname?
[16:43] <Evdb> I need to check 'noapic' when running live version
[16:43] <Evdb> I installed to the free space + created 1 gb swap
[16:43] <designbybeck> Evdb: I've only done an install on a Mac once with ubuntu, The mac actually had XP on it too... but this is what worked for me: http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-mac-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware
[16:43] <Calinou> installing another OS in a mac *silently laughs*
[16:43] <Evdb> bootloader is on my main drive dev/sda/
[16:44] <gordonjcp> Evdb: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?95640-BOOTING-UBUNTU-with-USB-on-MAC
[16:44] <Evdb> designbybeck: I read that one, will try again I guess
[16:44] <Evdb> thanks gordonjcp, I'll create a new bootUSB
[16:44] <shaneo> hey guys having issues opening synaptic keep getting
[16:44] <shaneo> E: The value 'stable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[16:44] <shaneo> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:44] <Evdb> I'll combine your two forces and hopefully it'll work
[16:45] <AaronCampbell> I'm having problems with Skype audio (it's SUPER distorted with massive static), and several places say it's an issue with Skype and Pulseaudio.  That removing Pulseaudio might fix it.
[16:45] <afflicto> test
[16:45] <Evdb> One other problem: I ran boot repair and now primary refit is efi/ubuntu efi something
[16:45] <bubuntoid> ubuntu servers died?
[16:45]  * afflicto just tried to see if it worked and it did
[16:45]  * jiltdil loves irssi
[16:45] <Calinou> poor irrsi
[16:45] <dr_willis> shaneo:  youve not been mixxing things from debian into ubuntu have you?
[16:46] <AaronCampbell> However, as I tried to remove it synaptic says the package "ubuntu-desktop" would be removed as well.  Is that going to be an issue?  Or is that like a place-holder package?
[16:46] <shaneo> dr_willis not that I know of
[16:46] <Evdb> gordonjcp: my refit primary chooses an ubuntu efi that appeared after running boot reapir in live version
[16:46]  * jiltdil loves freenode.net
[16:46] <shaneo> dr_willis: how would I check?
[16:46] <bazhang> !ot | jiltdil
[16:47] <jiltdil> bazhang, Sorry
[16:47] <dr_willis> shaneo:  i think 'stable' is a debian release name. where ubuntu used names like 'oneric' 'percice' and 'quantal' or whatver they are. ;)
[16:47] <afflicto> Hey all. using gnome shell -- I installed the CPU/mem/net monitor extension as well as lm-sensors but my CPU temp shows -270 celcius which is probably not correct xD
[16:48] <satyam> electric
[16:48] <zykotick9> dr_willis: while you are correct "stable" is a possible debian name, it SHOULDN'T be used </OT>
[16:48] <shaneo> dr_willis: hmm thats odd because i never used debian on my pc before...i installed get_deb the other day would that be it
[16:48] <satyam> anybody know elctric vlsi
[16:48] <dr_willis> shaneo:  could be itsss somehow set for debian and not ubuntu. would be my guess
[16:49] <bazhang> satyam, connection to ubuntu support?
[16:49] <shaneo> dr_willis: should I check sources.list?
[16:49] <dr_willis> shaneo:  for starters yes. and the other apt config giles
[16:49] <dr_willis> files
[16:49] <satyam> yes
[16:49] <bazhang> satyam, which is what?
[16:50] <satyam> quit
[16:50] <satyam> u know elctric vlsi
[16:50] <bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname? repository died?
[16:50] <bazhang> satyam, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:50] <satyam> no
[16:51] <OpenIndianaVbox> satyam: to get help you need to explain your problem
[16:51] <bazhang> satyam, then thats offtopic here
[16:51] <dr_willis> bubuntoid:  you may want to clarify your issue
[16:51] <bubuntoid> apt-get gives this error messing with repositories
[16:51] <satyam>  i have an problem in electric vlsi
[16:52] <bazhang> satyam, this is ubuntu support
[16:52] <satyam> ok
[16:52] <satyam> quit
[16:52] <OpenIndianaVbox> satyam: if you are not using ubuntu then you shouldn't be asking here
[16:52] <OpenIndianaVbox> missed him
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bubuntoid: stil having the issue?
[16:53] <bubuntoid> no
[16:53] <bubuntoid> what was that?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bubuntoid: great :)
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> 17:50 < bubuntoid> -5 - No address associated with hostname? repository died?
[16:54] <reuf> hello any software for voice changing? modification?
[16:54] <bubuntoid> I need to wait for ~10 minutes before ubuntu will be able to use internet?
[16:54] <Calinou> reuf: audacity
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> bubuntoid: why is that?
[16:58] <bubuntoid> I have no idea why I was getting such idiotic errors
[16:58] <ash_> hello, i wonder if somebody cans how me how to create a channel on xchat and invite my friend in?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> ash_  type /join #blah - it creates a channel - then invite your friend
[17:01] <Ragtime^> Are there any channels in freenode for Amazon Web Services?
[17:02] <Guest74988> I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I try to install the additional drivers for my ATI card but Ubuntu will not install them.. and comes back with that I should check the  /var/log/jockey.log
[17:02] <Guest74988> How can I install the ATI drivers the right way?
[17:02] <bazhang> Ragtime^, #aws
[17:02] <Ragtime^> Thank you.
[17:02] <crizis> Guest74988: are you trying to install the 'updated' version of the driver?
[17:03] <dr_willis> you did look at the log? it may explain the problem Guest74988