[14:54] <LjL> sandy19: LAMP is not XAMPP. XAMPP isn't supported here.
[14:54] <ikonia> sandy19: we told you not to use xammp
[14:54] <iggymydog> i need help getting minecraft to work on my computer....i have java jkd but it says that minecraft isent exucutable......wtf?
[14:54] <ttt-4> is the kernel panic written to a log somewhere?
[14:54] <no_gravity> twright: awesome. now what?
[14:54] <ikonia> iggymydog: stop with the language
[14:54] <sandy19> oh sorry then i  need to install lamp
[14:54] <iggymydog> langue?
[14:55] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: what command are you using to start minecraft?
[14:55] <no_gravity> twright: by the way, its an open network
[14:55] <iggymydog> you mean english?
[14:55] <LjL> iggymydog: no need for "wtf".
[14:55] <twright> no_gravity: hm, then it may be signal strength
[14:55] <iggymydog> what the fudge
[14:55] <iggymydog> i dont know what command im useing
[14:55] <no_gravity> twright: no, its fine. my other computers can connect.
[14:55] <iggymydog> its just not excutable is all i know i guess
[14:55] <fardad> hello all: I need to get few webcams  and be sure they are compatible with Ubuntu, any suggestions?
[14:56] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you need to envoke java to run the minecraft client
[14:56] <UICTamale> iggymydog: are you double-clicking on it?
[14:56] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:56] <iText> Which is the right place to ask about packaging an app for ubuntu
[14:56] <twright> no_gravity: the command `iwlist scanning` will give you more info
[14:56] <LjL> iText: #ubuntu-packaging
[14:56] <iText> LjL Thanks
[14:56] <LjL> iText: there are also sessions about development in #ubuntu-classroom currnetly, including ones about packaging
[14:56] <iggymydog> im right clicking it and slecting java from a list of apps to run   it on
[14:56] <Guest64875> iggymydog, java "minecraft executable"    maybe even do chmod +x "minecraft executable" ................. at a quick guess.
[14:57] <ttt-4> hi, i get a kernel panic when booting into ubuntu. How can i find out what is wrong or how to fix it? Only the end of a call stack gets shown on the screen and it says 'kernel panic.. rebooting in 30seconds'. Any ideas?
[14:57] <iggymydog> i dont exactely know what that means.....
[14:57] <UICTamale> has anyone seen a problem with shutting down ubuntu in 11.10?  Every time I shut down, the machine hangs after a few seconds' worth of the alternating orange and white blocks under the word 'ubuntu'.
[14:57] <iggymydog> im a noob at ubuntu
[14:57] <theadmin> iggymydog: java -jar minecraft.jar
[14:57] <iggymydog> guest64575: can you walk me through it?
[14:57] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you need to use the minecraft jar file with a specific command
[14:57] <UICTamale> iggymydog: You need to open your terminal.  It's under accessories
[14:57] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: specifically the one I gave you above
[14:58] <iggymydog> ok term got it
[14:58] <iggymydog> its open
[14:58] <twright> no_gravity: and dmesg should tell you if any errors occurred when you attempt to connect
[14:58] <prower> phew...just needed to log out and log in apparently :> for anyone who _is_ experiencing the segfault issue with python, here is the bug on launchpad...please contribute to it if you can, i think the lack of information is stalling things: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/896836
[14:58] <iggymydog> now?
[14:58] <DinoMuffin> go to the directory with the minecraft.jar file
[14:58] <UICTamale> Ok, now go into the folder where you keep the minecraft jar
[14:58] <UICTamale> if it's on your desktop, that'll be "cd Desktop"
[14:58] <iggymydog> dinomuffin: now what?
[14:58] <DinoMuffin> enter in: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:58] <UICTamale> "cd" for "change directory"
[14:58] <iggymydog> uictzmzle: now what?
[14:58] <UICTamale> now type what dinomuffin put in there
[14:59] <iggymydog> UICTamale: now what?
[14:59] <UICTamale> "   java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame   "   without the quotes
[14:59] <iggymydog> ok
[15:00] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$  java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame    Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205) 	at
[15:00] <no_gravity> twright: ok, will play around with dmesg
[15:00] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$  java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame    Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205) 	at
[15:00] <iggymydog> somethign went wrong?
[15:00] <parana> guys is it true or not, i have to know before doing it:
[15:00] <parana> dd if=/dev/sde of=/home/somefolder/image.img
[15:00] <parana> to create a image of my sd card?
[15:00] <UICTamale> if you type "ls", do you see the minecraft jar?
[15:00] <LjL> parana: looks right, assuming your sd card is /dev/sde
[15:00] <theadmin> parana: That is correct, but only if /dev/sde is your SD card
[15:01] <iggymydog> no
[15:01] <epron> hello, I am kinda ubuntu newbie. I get MANY of these entries in my auth.log which I didn't get before. Any ideas? CRON[5076]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[15:01] <epron> they are executing every 10 mins
[15:01] <iggymydog> no i dont see minecraft.jar
[15:01] <theadmin> UICTamale: If it throws an exception then yes, it's there.
[15:01] <UICTamale> iggymydog: then you're not in the right directory.
[15:01] <parana> LjL: theadmin: thx a lot
[15:01] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$ ls avida    Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  screenshot.png  Ubuntu One Desktop  Downloads  Music             Public    Templates       Videos nana@nana:~$
[15:01] <parana> my sd card at sde
[15:01] <iggymydog> what should i do then?
[15:01]  * prower ponders dd if=/dev/random of=/home/somefolder/explodemyharddrive.img
[15:01] <UICTamale> theadmin: not if the error is a class def not found
[15:02] <theadmin> UICTamale: Oh... Man Java is annoyingly weird :/ Could just say "java: file not found" like any sane runtime
[15:02] <UICTamale> iggymydog: You didn't type "cd Desktop"
[15:02] <iggymydog> UICTamale: which dectory should i be in and how do i get there?
[15:02] <UICTamale> iggymydog: You need to do that first.
[15:02] <iggymydog> UICTamale: ok
[15:02] <UICTamale> iggymydog:  now do ls and confirm minecraft.jar is there
[15:03] <prower> theadmin: to say the least :P additionally if you're using openjdk for minecraft in linux you're probably going to have a good few issues, i did at least...had to get java 7 from oracle and manually install that
[15:03] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$ cd Desktop nana@nana:~/Desktop$ ls 100_3070.JPG            map.desktop 100_3103.MOV            pattern.desktop fight.wav               pictures gnect.desktop           Untitled.wav gnome-terminal.desktop  WHITE_BIRCHES___Leonid_Afremov_by_Leonidafremov.jpg kigo.desktop nana@nana:~/Desktop$
[15:03] <iggymydog> no minecraft
[15:03] <jayson_> Has anyone ever got ubuntu working on a qualcomm board
[15:03] <theadmin> !arm | jayson_
[15:03] <epron> i guess it's kind of a cron job but why it didn't spit anything in auth.log before?
[15:04] <DinoMuffin> if you downloaded it, it's probably in your downloads folder
[15:04] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: cd ~/Downloads/
[15:04] <UICTamale> has anyone seen a problem with shutting down ubuntu in 11.10?  Every time I shut down, the machine hangs after a few seconds' worth of the alternating orange and white blocks under the word 'ubuntu'.
[15:04] <iggymydog> nana@nana:~$ cd cd ~/Downloads/ bash: cd: cd: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$ cd desktop bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$
[15:05] <iggymydog> dinomuffin: nana@nana:~$ cd cd ~/Downloads/ bash: cd: cd: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$ cd desktop bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$
[15:05] <DinoMuffin> only one 'cd'
[15:05] <iggymydog> ???
[15:05] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you put in "cd cd ~/Downloads"
[15:05] <prower> iggymydog: you typed cd twice, you only need it once
[15:05] <DinoMuffin> instead of "cd ~/Downloads/"
[15:05] <|Anthony|> some updates came over the wire today... but the launchpad link in the update is broke:
[15:05] <|Anthony|> https://launchpad.net/bugs/915210
[15:05] <|Anthony|> why is that?
[15:05] <iggymydog> dinomuffin: nana@nana:~$ cd ~/downloads/ bash: cd: /home/nana/downloads/: No such file or directory nana@nana:~$
[15:06] <theadmin> iggymydog: Linux is case-sensetive. "downloads" is NOT "Downloads"
[15:06] <iggymydog> ohhhhh
[15:06] <iggymydog> ok
[15:06] <prower> iggymydog: don't worry, that's something people stumble over when they're first starting out :>
[15:07] <iggymydog> ok im at downloads now what?
[15:07] <DinoMuffin> now run the command from before
[15:07] <DinoMuffin> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[15:07] <UICTamale> if that's where minecraft.jar is
[15:07] <UICTamale> :)
[15:07] <UICTamale> you can keep doing 'cd <something>' and 'ls' till you find it.
[15:07] <DinoMuffin> well if he downlodaed it, it should go there by default
[15:08] <iggymydog> omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! minecraft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[15:08] <UICTamale> true, teach a man to fish, etc
[15:08] <UICTamale> rofl
[15:08] <iggymydog> hahahahaha thank you soooo much!
[15:08] <DinoMuffin> if it's still not there, run: "find ~ -name minecraft.jar"
[15:08] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: np
[15:08] <UICTamale> most rewarding support thread I've seen in a while
[15:08] <prower> DinoMuffin: Are the extra memory allocation bits necessary? I've had poor performance in minecraft in general but i just run it as java -jar minecraft.jar
[15:08] <theadmin> DinoMuffin: Given that "~/Downloads" exists in a default Ubuntu setup, lol, otherwise Firefox would ask where to save
[15:08] <iggymydog> will i have to do this everytime?
[15:08] <islamico> hello
[15:08] <UICTamale> iggymydog: No, you can make a custom launcher.
[15:08] <DinoMuffin> iggymydog: you can put the command into a file and execute that instead
[15:09] <islamico> i wanna ask about something,may i ask??
[15:09] <iggymydog> how do i do that......
[15:09] <DinoMuffin> prower: I'm not sure if the memory params are defaulted if it's not entered
[15:09] <DinoMuffin> prower: never tried it
[15:09] <theadmin> iggymydog: No. Here, run this: echo "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" > ~/Desktop/Minecraft && chmod a+x ~/Desktop/Minecraft
[15:09] <prower> DinoMuffin: Hmm...I'll have to give it a try your way and see if the sound chops up less
[15:09] <|Anthony|> anyone? why would a bug fix be pushed without a bug?
[15:09] <LjL> islamico: ask away
[15:09] <UICTamale> http://blog.mattwoodward.com/how-to-create-a-custom-launcher-in-unity-on-u
[15:09] <bazhang> islamico, go ahead
[15:09] <theadmin> iggymydog: This will give you a file called "Minecraft" on your desktop, now just run that
[15:10] <DinoMuffin> prower: if you're using something with intelGMA, it will lag a lot
[15:10] <islamico> how can i protect my pc from ARP attacks??
[15:10] <theadmin> Bah!
[15:10] <DinoMuffin> prower: unfortunately, minecraft is not optimised well
[15:10] <theadmin> iggymydog: Sorry, don't mind what I said, that won't work
[15:10] <prower> islamico: well, you could try installing arpwatch, that would at least tell you in your logs if someone is trying to poison you
[15:10] <LjL> !info arpon
[15:10] <derpies> T<PHONE_NUMBER> <incog>	hello
[15:10] <derpies> ._.
[15:10] <derpies> oops
[15:11] <islamico> but what about protection??
[15:11] <theadmin> iggymydog: This will: echo "#!/bin/bash" > ~/Desktop/Minecraft && echo "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" >> ~/Desktop/Minecraft && chmod a+x ~/Desktop/Minecraft
[15:11] <iggymydog> thanks yall life saver
[15:11] <prower> DinoMuffin: So it would seem :< I found that I had to manually replace the version of lwjgl that it used with one off the website to get the controls to work properly
[15:11] <iggymydog> i did soemthing and its on my desktop?
[15:11] <derpies> Ÿ
[15:11] <derpies> 	helloó Ÿ
[15:11] <xro> Hi, Is there anybody thout could help me to put my ubuntu 10.04 in full screen in VM (VMware server)
[15:11] <LjL> derpies: please stop with the unicode
[15:11] <theadmin> iggymydog: Run the last command I gave then double-click the file that magically appeared on your desktop and there is your minecraft :P
[15:12] <iggymydog> imma gtg i got minecrafting to do :D thank you
[15:12] <iggymydog> <3
[15:12] <theadmin> Well that was a simple problem :)
[15:12] <islamico> i tried XARP BUT IT SENDS arp PACKETS TO THE ROUTER AND THE OTHER PCS WHICH MAKE THE ROUTER STOP THE CONNECTION OF MY PC
[15:13] <theadmin> DinoMuffin: Where'd you get that weird command with -Xmx and -Xms anyway
[15:14] <DinoMuffin> theadmin: minecraft.net download page :P
[15:14] <theadmin> DinoMuffin: Oh... Never thought of looking there xD
[15:14] <epron> could it be a rate limiting log imposed by ufw?
[15:16] <prower> islamico: arpwatch will, if i remember correctly, warn you if there's a change in ip address with respect to the known mac address, if you see this pop up in your logs i'd imagine you could just use ufw to firewall off the offending ip address
[15:16] <|Anthony|> anyone? why would a bug fix be pushed without a bug in launchpad?
[15:16] <|Anthony|> https://launchpad.net/bugs/915210
[15:16] <theadmin> |Anthony|: Maybe you miscopied the URL or something?
[15:16] <prower> |Anthony|: I would imagine that whoever pushed the bug out probably just hasn't gotten around to posting the information yet?
[15:16] <neww21> hello , maybe someone can help me ... ? my microphone not works
[15:17] <|Anthony|> hmm...
[15:17] <Tucks> Do I need the Python bindings for ClamAV (Antivirus)?
[15:17] <rewtz> by mistake anyone has problems installing shoutcast server on ubuntu 11 x64 ?
[15:17] <theadmin> Tucks: Not unless you know you do
[15:17] <AngelForget> your O.s. whay it is ?
[15:17] <theadmin> Tucks: You need them to code Python scripts which use clamav. If you do that, then yes.
[15:18] <Tucks> Thanks. I was installing a lot of ClamAV-related packages from the Software Center, and I wasn't sure whether I needed the Python ones. Good to know. :)
[15:19] <Pici> |Anthony|: I'm not sure why the bug page is blank, but this is what you should be looking at: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1352-1/
[15:19] <|Anthony|> thanks Pici
[15:19] <melvincv> Is it possible to see my GPU temperature in Ubuntu? I'm using the AMD drivers, my GPU is AMD radeon hd 6450.
[15:20] <rewtz> Pici i can't add ipv6 on my vps ubuntu 11.04, no matter how i try i cannot see it in ifconfig.
[15:20] <XAlcadeiasX> hi
[15:20] <neww21> my micro was working but sound was very low , when i installed other driver in software sources it stopped work
[15:20] <RadiumCat> hello, whats a good minimalistic music player?
[15:20] <RadiumCat> something that just plays mp3, without the extra shabang
[15:20] <bazhang> audacious RadiumCat
[15:20] <AngelForget> stay one people speak italian ?
[15:21] <LjL> !it | AngelForget
[15:21] <bazhang> AngelForget, #ubuntu-it
[15:21] <RadiumCat> bazhang: something lightweight than that?
[15:21] <bazhang> RadiumCat, the command line mplayer?
[15:21] <XAlcadeiasX> mi spiegate solamente come cambiare canale?  scusate ma sono nuovo...
[15:21] <prower> RadiumCat: More lightweight than audacious? :P I suppose you could install sox and just type play whatever.mp3 from the console
[15:21] <rewtz> Pici: 2001:1af8:4010:a023:1:0:7176:8398 gateway 2001:1AF8:4010:A023::1/64 <- i cannot add, i get no error..
[15:21] <LjL> XAlcadeiasX: /join #canale
[15:21] <RadiumCat> sox, thats it
[15:21] <RadiumCat> thanks kindly
[15:21] <RadiumCat> bazhang: thanks for the help
[15:21] <prower> RadiumCat: No problem
[15:22] <RadiumCat> :)
[15:22] <Pici> rewtz: I'm not sure how to do that, sorry.
[15:22] <XAlcadeiasX>  /join #ubuntu-it
[15:22] <LjL> XAlcadeiasX: senza spazi prima della /
[15:22] <subb1> someone please demystify the concepts> TTY , PTS, console in Unix context.  I have searched google and everywhere they have the same explanation unuseful for me.  Man pages are even worse. This concept is so arcane. Kindly help or you could help me with a good article on this.
[15:22] <rewtz> Pici thanks!
[15:22] <ashickur-noor>  /join #ubuntu-it
[15:22] <ashickur-noor>  /j #ubuntu-it
[15:22] <LjL> ashickur-noor: without spaces before the /
[15:24] <rewtz> can someone give me some ipv6 ubuntu help?
[15:24] <ikonia> best to just ask your question
[15:24] <szal> rewtz: ask an actual question
[15:25] <Tucks> One last question about a ClamAV package in the Software Center.  There is a package labeled "Update script for 3rd party signatures" (clamav-unofficial-sigs).  Should I install that?
[15:25] <prower> Tucks: All I've ever needed is clamav and the updating daemon for it personally
[15:25] <marijan> http://www.2shared.com/file/zeC04s1T/cs2d_0119_win_and_Aimbot.html
[15:25] <bazhang> marijan, ?
[15:26] <marijan> http://www.2shared.com/file/zeC04s1T/cs2d_0119_win_and_Aimbot.html
[15:26] <valdur55> Hello. How can i transate .desktop files?
[15:26] <rewtz> szal i tried every way from online tutorials to add 2001:1af8:4010:a023:1:0:7176:8398 gateway 2001:1AF8:4010:A023::1/64 in my ifconfig, i get no error on "ip -6" or by editing the /etc/networking/interfaces file but i can't see the ips in ifconfig
[15:26] <happyblue> I am using live-cd lucid, I cant install any progamms. it just doest not leave the "unpacking" stage...
[15:26] <prower> marijan: if you're expecting people here to download a random file labeled as an aimbot and run it you're probably barking up the wrong tree
[15:27] <tjiggi_fo> heh
[15:27] <Tucks> prower  ::  Okay, thanks.
[15:27] <prower> Tucks: np
[15:27] <bazhang> happyblue, on to the live session?
[15:27] <d[-_-]b> !ali
[15:28] <epron> so anyone can help me with this flooding auth.log: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) ?
[15:28] <subb1> any help guys?
[15:28] <jdhfr> valdur55: there are script in build time, it pulls out strings and put them into .desktop
[15:28] <happyblue> bazhang, no I mean I am using the live session right now
[15:29] <jdhfr> or you mean?
[15:29] <happyblue> but I cant install any new programms with e.g. sudo apt-get install mbr
[15:29] <mneptok> happyblue: "mbr" is not a program
[15:29] <jdhfr> valdur55: program that desktop file is from surely have the strings in its pot file
[15:30] <Tucks> You can also search for packages in the command line using "sudo apt-cache search whateverpackageyourelookingfor"
[15:30] <DinoMuffin> epron: don't worry about it
[15:31] <DinoMuffin> epron: it's cron doing that
[15:31] <epron> it didn't before
[15:31] <epron> like.. a week before
[15:31] <happyblue> mneptok, http://pastie.org/3296271 is what I get
[15:31] <Kartagis> hi
[15:31] <mneptok> happyblue: what is it you're trying to do, exactly?
[15:32] <Kartagis> can you guide me to properlu set up audio input?
[15:32] <kasii> hi all
[15:32] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  theres that pauvcontrol tool that can do that i belive.
[15:33] <dr_willis> if i spelt it right
[15:33] <DinoMuffin> epron: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1106537
[15:33] <jdhfr> stupid ubuntu installer installs grub All the time :(
[15:33] <epron> DinoMuffin:  crontab -l for root is empty
[15:34] <txomon> hi, anyone knows how to install kubuntu without installing kdm
[15:34] <txomon> ?
[15:34] <epron> is it possible that something in cron.daily generates that?
[15:34] <LjL> txomon: i don't, but you can always reconfigure gdm so it starts instead.
[15:34] <LjL> txomon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:34] <Kartagis> dr_willis: no pauvcontrol in repos or on my system
[15:34] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  install it.
[15:35] <dr_willis> !find pauvcontrol
[15:35] <DinoMuffin> epron: probably
[15:35] <dr_willis> if i can spell it right
[15:35] <txomon> LjL: yeah, but I don't want to have it, dont need kdm...
[15:35] <dr_willis> pavucontrol  pavuk        pavumeter
[15:35] <Psych> hahahah
[15:35] <LjL> txomon: why don't you just uninstall it after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[15:35] <dr_willis> !find pavucontrol
[15:36] <Kartagis> pavucontrol, okay
[15:36] <dr_willis> 'pulse audio volume Unknownword Control' :)
[15:36] <Psych> ubunto is very low xD
[15:36] <Teddy1> !how to see streams that use windows media player in firefox?
[15:36] <Psych> ubuntu is very low xD
[15:36] <LjL> Psych: do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:36] <txomon> LjL: it interacts with the system...
[15:37] <txomon> but ok
[15:37] <jdhfr> define 'low'
[15:37] <happyblue> mneptok: install live-cd on an usb. the usbcreator doesnt work as well
[15:37] <LjL> txomon, if you uninstall it (especially if you use --purge) it really should not leave any marks in the system.
[15:37] <Teddy1> How to see streams that use windows media player as player in firefox?!
[15:37] <john_doe_jr> does anyone know how to unset an environment variable in ubuntu?
[15:37] <Tucks> #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussions! hooray, I found it!
[15:37] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  if you are lucky - you could cut/paste the stream url into vlc, or some other players and they may work.
[15:37] <DinoMuffin> !ch | Psych
[15:38] <Teddy1> !cmd
[15:38] <Teddy1> !commands
[15:38] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis, were you talking to me?
[15:38] <mneptok> happyblue: the USB Creator app has always worked well for me, and was simple enough to use that i did not have to seek advice on getting a USB stick to boot. ;)
[15:38] <Psych> i dont speak german ..
[15:38] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  or try the various vlc-firefox plugin, or totem firefox plugin, or some otehrs. (i tend to cut/paste)
[15:38] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  i got on the wrong line. :)
[15:38] <Teddy1> its not german
[15:38] <Teddy1> :p
[15:38] <dr_willis> that was for Teddy1
[15:38] <epron> one more thing. Although I've enabled ssh rate limiting with ufw, I see quite a lot of failed password from sshd and the same ip in auth.log
[15:38] <Teddy1> it was both of us
[15:38] <Psych> i have understand xDD but the language is german xD
[15:39] <jdhfr> it was german
[15:39] <happyblue> mneptok I wonder if my live-cd that iam using is just screwed
[15:39] <epron> and also cat ufw.log | grep limit is always null
[15:39] <dr_willis> john_doe_jr:  export foo=""  (i think) to unset
[15:39] <Teddy1> dr_willis:  oh i didnt see you write that
[15:39] <mneptok> happyblue: or the USB media you're using is nearing EOL
[15:39] <prower> epron: probably just drive-by scripts trying to brute force their way in, i changed the default port for ssh and never saw any failed attempts again except for my own
[15:40] <epron> prower: I know, but ufw is supposed to rate limit them
[15:40] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I can play sounds but not input. where do I look?
[15:40] <epron> i still get > 15-15 entries per ip in a 2 minutes timespan
[15:40] <happyblue> mneptok but besides that problem, I cant install any programmes during my live-session, so theres something wrong with that
[15:40] <Teddy1> dr_willis:  I dont havent had so much good times with vlc in the browser(in windows or ubuntu)
[15:40] <john_doe_jr> dr_willis, that sets it
[15:41] <DinoMuffin> epron: most effective way to reduce failed attempts is to move sshd to a non-standard port
[15:41] <prower> epron: hmm...not sure what to tell you there i've never set up rate limiting...maybe there's an option in sshd_config that would do the job
[15:41] <happyblue> mneptok does not matter if its a small or a large programme
[15:41] <john_doe_jr> What kind of problems are you having w/ VLC...I know a lot about this type of thing?
[15:41] <happyblue> mneptok seems like dpkg has got some problem
[15:42] <nabeel> hi
[15:42] <DinoMuffin> epron: yo
[15:42] <DinoMuffin> woops
[15:42] <Psych> xD
[15:42] <epron> I see... yeah it sounds ok to change the default ssh port
[15:42] <Teddy1>  john_doe_jr. its not with vlc, but it is a stream from tv, but they use only and onlys support windows media player
[15:42] <epron> I'll have to change some deployment scripts though
[15:42] <epron> sigh..
[15:42] <Teddy1> cant get it to work with vlc
[15:43] <epron> one more thing... is it ok to just rm -rf .log and .log.1 ?
[15:43] <DinoMuffin> why
[15:44] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/direkte/nrk1/
[15:44] <Teddy1> thats the url to the streams
[15:44] <epron> DinoMuffin: was why for me?
[15:44] <DinoMuffin> epron: yeah
[15:44] <Teddy1> they stream lillyhammer today(episode 2)
[15:44] <Teddy1> if someone have seen it
[15:44] <epron> i don't want /var/log filled with logs
[15:44] <epron> plus i want to keep track of some stuff
[15:44] <DinoMuffin> epron: uhh
[15:45] <epron> it's been some time since i did some administration
[15:45] <epron> and this is our production server
[15:45] <epron> i need to keep track of some stuff
[15:45] <DinoMuffin> epron: well, you can remove the log if you want. linux will just make another one
[15:45] <auronandace> epron: that is the point of /var/log/ to keep logs
[15:45] <DinoMuffin> epron: most of the time my logs don't ever get over 15MBs or so
[15:45] <epron> ok
[15:45] <DinoMuffin> for the entire folder
[15:45] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, you probably need chromium or chrome with non-free installed
[15:46] <epron> what's the limit before they get gz'ed
[15:46] <Teddy1> epron:  the logs should be logging veeery much to be start using your hdd
[15:46] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr:  doe you happen to know the commands in your head?
[15:47] <DinoMuffin> epron: IIRC the log files are managed by logrotate cron
[15:47] <scwizard> I want to run this at startup: sudo play start /path/to/play-application/ --%prod"
[15:47] <Teddy1> is it sudo apt-get chromium non-free
[15:47] <Teddy1> _
[15:47] <Teddy1> ?
[15:47] <DinoMuffin> epron: the limits are somewhere in /etc/
[15:47] <scwizard> what do I put in the "exec" line of my play.conf in my init folder?
[15:47] <scwizard> */etc/init
[15:47] <Psych> it | ubuntu
[15:47] <DinoMuffin> epron: /etc/logrotate.conf
[15:47] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, just a sec
[15:48] <Teddy1> and then apt-get install chromium? or?
[15:48] <Seppoz_work> im wondering why cylinders=$(fdisk -l $DEVICE | grep cylinders | head -n1 | cut -d',' -f3 | cut -d' ' -f2) works on ubuntu 10 but not on 11, is there anything im doing wrong?
[15:48] <auronandace> !info chromium-browser | Teddy1
[15:48] <Seppoz_work> used in a script
[15:48] <epron> DinoMuffin: ok thank you very much
[15:48] <DinoMuffin> epron: no prob
[15:48] <sds> When booting from the CD, which config file controls the options displayed in the menu (try, install)? i would actually like to remove the install option.
[15:48] <john_doe_jr> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree
[15:48] <scwizard> this should init service thingy howsit is confusing the heck out of me, I even read the whole man init(5) and I still don't know how to approach this
[15:49] <sipior> Seppoz_work: investigate each stage of the pipe, and figure out which part changed.
[15:49] <Seppoz_work> sipior: the pipe is fine
[15:49] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, sudo apt-get install chromium-browser chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree
[15:49] <auronandace> !upstart | scwizard
[15:49] <sipior> Seppoz_work: obviously not.
[15:49] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr: thnx i try
[15:50] <Seppoz_work> echo $(fdisk -l $DEVICE | grep cylinders | head -n1 | cut -d',' -f3 | cut -d' ' -f2)                   4865
[15:50] <scwizard> auronandace, I know what upstart is, and I'd like some help using it
[15:50] <Seppoz_work> sipior: but the output is just what i want
[15:50] <sipior> Seppoz_work: then what's the problem?
[15:50] <Seppoz_work> its not working in a script
[15:50] <Teddy1> john_doe_jr:  i got: Reading package lists... Done
[15:50] <Teddy1> Building dependency tree
[15:50] <Teddy1> Reading state information... Done
[15:50] <Teddy1> E: Unable to locate package chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree
[15:51] <jeagle> Good day to everyone! I have a quick question. to output a string of text to a txt file. it's "echo 'text goes here' > logfile.txt" how would I go about apending the next echo string to the next line?
[15:51] <sipior> jeagle: ">>"
[15:51] <auronandace> scwizard: sorry, i thought you were trying to get an init system working and weren't aware that ubuntu uses upstart (not sysv)
[15:51] <Seppoz_work> http://pastebin.com/YbNzFuY8 prints Cylinder:  - Heads:  - Sectors:  - Blocksize:
[15:51] <jeagle> sipior: Thanks! I'll give it a shot! ^-^
[15:51] <Jjon> Yo
 thats the problem
[15:52] <Jjon> What would you guys say is the most lightweight OS?
[15:52] <scwizard> auronandace, why would I be making a play.conf in /etc/init if I was trying to do things the sysv way?
[15:52] <Jjon> I could post my specs, they're bad
[15:52] <jatt> android
[15:52] <bazhang> Jjon, lubuntu
[15:52] <jeagle> sipior: Thanks dude! you are the best! :D
[15:52] <bazhang> jatt, thats off topic for here
[15:52] <Seppoz_work> whats the difference between bash of ubuntu 10 and 11?
[15:52] <mneptok> Jjon: that question is not directly related to Ubuntu support. please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Jjon
[15:53] <Jjon> aah, lxde, I don't know about that one.. Thanks anyways guys
[15:53] <jdhfr> lubuntu is not lighter
[15:53] <jdhfr> you need some special distro
[15:54] <Oer> jdhfr, yes it is lighter.
[15:54] <sipior> Seppoz_work: you're running the script with superuser privileges, right?
[15:54] <Seppoz_work> yes
[15:54] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, did it work?
[15:54] <LjL> jdhfr: it is lighter, please do not spread misinformation
[15:54] <Seppoz_work> is that a problem? was the same before tho
[15:54] <LjL> !requirements > jdhfr
[15:54] <mneptok> !offtopic
[15:54] <romeyro> hello guys, i m trying to make work compiz+emerald on xfce4 but i don't know for which reason i get the following errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/825225/
[15:55] <sipior> Seppoz_work: well, it works fine here.
[15:55] <Seppoz_work> is #!/bin/bash ok?
[15:55] <Tucks> how do I do a specific search for my native apps on Xubuntu 11.10 in the command line?  I have some command line apps and tools that are not listed in my Applications Menu.
[15:55] <sipior> Seppoz_work: yes. if you insert a "sudo" in front of "fdisk", does it work?
[15:56] <Seppoz_work> well i execue the script as root
[15:56] <auronandace> romeyro: its --replace (not -replace)
[15:56] <thetinyjesus> Does anyone know if there is a workaround for getting Ios 5 devices synced?
[15:56] <sipior> Seppoz_work: echo each part of the pipe, and see where it goes pear-shaped.
[15:56] <john_doe_jr> Teddy1, ?????
[15:57] <Teddy1> john_DOE_JR: NO, i sendt you a pm  with the error
[15:57] <Teddy1> ops, sorry the upper case
[15:58] <romeyro> auronandace, oh thank you :D
[15:58] <auronandace> romeyro: no worries :)
[15:59]  * jdhfr thinks that 512 MB RAM is anything but lightweight
[15:59] <thetinyjesus> Does anyone know about getting Ios 5 devices working?
[16:00] <mongy> romeyro, no need for sudo either.
[16:00] <Seppoz_work> if i enter fdisk -l /dev/sdc my card ejects
[16:00] <Seppoz_work> and mouts again
[16:02] <romeyro> auronandace, looks like its working but on the terminal the commande stopped at setting update http://paste.ubuntu.com/825238/ I think its not normal
[16:02] <Seppoz_work> sniper seems that was some bug in the card reader, thanks for the help tho
[16:03] <auronandace> romeyro: like mongy said, don't use sudo
[16:04] <auronandace> romeyro: apart from that you can close  the terminal
[16:05] <auronandace> romeyro: if you place && at the end it should push it to the background and free up the terminal (i think its &&, either that or just one &)
[16:05] <sipior> auronandace: just one :-)
[16:06] <auronandace> sipior: ah, thanks
[16:08] <Kartagis> can you help me please? I've got no audido now, in or out
[16:08] <romeyro_> auronandace, even when i try without sudo he stop at Setting update"prev_key" :S
[16:08] <auronandace> romeyro_: have you add the & at the end?
[16:09] <romeyro_> auronandace, no, what i did is compiz --replace ccp
[16:09] <auronandace> romeyro_: try: compiz --replace ccp &
[16:10] <Oer> !sound | Kartagis
[16:10] <Seppoz_work> did something changed with fdisk? it doesnt seem to use sectores anymore as the default size
[16:10] <memyself> is ubuntu more easily to be hack into when using unsecured free wireless connection ?
[16:11] <bazhang> memyself, no?
[16:11] <sandy19> hello ubuntu
[16:11] <sandy19> i want to learn php
[16:11] <esuave> memyself: unless your allowing people to connect to your machine with no authentication.
[16:11] <memyself> comparing to windows is ubuntu more easily to be hacked ?
[16:12] <sandy19> so what should i install
[16:12] <sandy19> ?
[16:12] <auronandace> memyself: security isn't that simple
[16:12] <esuave> sandy19: http://php.net
[16:12] <bazhang> !ot | memyself
[16:12] <auronandace> memyself: perhaps you should define "hacked"
[16:12] <sandy19> thnx esuave looking at that :)
[16:12] <zippytech> when I copy a say 2 gig file to a usb drive, my desktop almost becomes unresponsive till the copy is done. does any one else have that problem
[16:12] <memyself> i'm worry about using ubuntu as it has no firewall
[16:13] <jdhfr> zippytech: that problem is a trademark of linux
[16:13] <LjL> !firewall | memyself
[16:13] <bazhang> !iptables | memyself
[16:13] <ChrisGagnon> zippytech: if you use the deadline scheduler thaat problem doesn't happen
[16:13] <LjL> memyself: you should never really use an unsecured wifi connection, anyway. it's a very bad idea.
[16:14] <jdhfr> only reach people can afford secure wireless
[16:14] <zippytech> thanks I will look into that
[16:14] <bazhang> jdhfr, thats enough
[16:14] <memyself> ljl , how bad is using unsecured wifi connection ? cos most free wifi at fastfood restarant are unsecured
[16:14] <auronandace> jdhfr: don't talk nonsense
[16:14] <sipior> memyself: you'll want to look into a decent vpn solution for open access points.
[16:14] <LjL> memyself: well, anyone can see the data you're sending and receiving.
[16:15] <bazhang> jdhfr, editorializing and offtopic commentary in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <LjL> memyself: so you should absolutely *never* send plaintext passwords over unsecured wifi, for one thing
[16:15] <ChrisGagnon> zippytech: use 'echo deadline | sudo tee /sys/block/<your block device here IE: sda>/queue/scheduler' to switch to deadline
[16:15] <romeyro__> auronandace, sorry if i m taking time to answer its because my computer froze up everytime i click on the terminal and i had to turn it off :S. Same thing happened with compiz --replace ccp &
[16:16] <memyself> is it encrypted when you use unsecured wifi to browse those site with https ?
[16:16] <mneptok> memyself: yes
[16:16] <LjL> memyself: yes, https is encrypted, but other things are not
[16:17] <esuave> memyself: are there really hackers hanging out at the local fast food joint there?
[16:17] <jpds> esuave: You never know.
[16:17] <memyself> i'm worry unsecured wifi will not protect my laptop when other side of the net user attack me
[16:18] <DinoMuffin> it's just a general a security risk
[16:18] <auronandace> romeyro__: sorry, i stopped using compiz a while ago (always been too buggy for me on xfce)
[16:18] <LjL> memyself: you're right to worry. if you're really set on using unsecured wifi, at least enable a firewall.
[16:18] <DinoMuffin> anyone, ANYONE, with a packet sniffer can pull all the non encrypted data
[16:18] <mneptok> esuave: in a big city, you have at least 100 people living and working within range of a storefront. they're there all day. roll those dice.
[16:18] <auronandace> romeyro__: so my compiz knowege is rather old
[16:19] <memyself> i just installed ubuntu without enabling any firewall as some say there no such need
[16:20] <romeyro__> auronandace, haha its ok, i m checking on google. Thank you for your help :)
[16:20] <DinoMuffin> memyself: it's not in most cases
[16:20] <auronandace> memyself: most regular users will likely never need to touch the firewall
[16:20] <DinoMuffin> memyself: if you're on your own private LAN behind a router, you're fine
[16:20] <memyself> it's not ? meaning ?
[16:21] <memyself> so now the question is should i or shouldn't i configure firewall ?
[16:21] <LjL> memyself: there is no need if you're behind a router like most people are. but if you're going to use unsecured wifi, i'd say there is a need.
[16:21] <mgreenway> I am trying to updrade to a newer kernel
[16:21] <LjL> memyself: if you ask me, yes you should
[16:21] <esuave> memyself: yeah i would enable firewall too
[16:21] <mgreenway> there doesn't seem to be testing repos like in debian
[16:22] <jpds> memyself: All you need to do is: sudo ufw enable
[16:22] <memyself> i just read something like ubuntu initially close all port so there's really no need to do anyting
[16:22] <jpds> memyself: Yes, but you might install something that will open a port.
[16:22] <memyself> and some say ufw is outdate no more update
[16:22] <jpds> memyself: Whay?
[16:23] <mgreenway> how would I install a kernel like 3.1.0 are there ubuntu testing repos?
[16:23] <tado> hey folks! does anyone know how to set thunderbird's date format? it does not follow my system settings...
[16:23] <nice11> hi how are you/
[16:23] <memyself> it's obselete , the developer dump it
[16:23] <jpds> memyself: No.
[16:23] <Oer> memyself, don't listen to "some", he has it wrong.
[16:24] <auronandace> memyself: maybe it would be helpful to tell us where you're getting your info from
[16:24] <Offlein> I am using UFW and I would like to forward all incoming traffic [on a specific port] hitting this computer to another computer/port on this computer's network. I guess using Masquerading. Does anyone know how to do this?
[16:24] <memyself> so enabling the firewall just by entering ufw enable and then that's all no configuration required ?
[16:24] <Boreeas> Hey, my Ubuntu partition only has 5 GB of free space left. The drive has about 50 GB of unallocated space left, how to I extend my partition to use this space?
[16:25] <memyself> for the ufw info , i guess i got it from google
[16:25] <LjL> Boreeas: use gparted from a live CD (and have a backup)
[16:25] <auronandace> memyself: google is a search engine, google led you to?
[16:26] <zaya> boreeas just make sure to back up what you want just incase
[16:26] <Boreeas> No easy way to do it? Alright then
[16:26] <abys> can somebody tell me what packages ubuntu is using to set up wireless ?
[16:26] <sipior> Boreeas: before you do that, make sure the reserved block percentage on that partition is set to zero: "sudo /sbintune2fs -m 0 /dev/<device>". should give you five percent of the volume back.
[16:27] <sipior> Boreeas: sorry: "/sbin/tune2fs"
[16:27] <LjL> sipior: err, is that a really good idea though?
[16:27] <sipior> LjL: yes, it is.
[16:27] <Boreeas> So, burn Gparted on a disk (does a flashdrive work too, if the bios can boot from a flashdrive) and then modify the partittion?
[16:27] <tado> how do i open pgp encrypted files with nautilus? (or how do i encrypt new files?)... i read here that seahorse is no longer working https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/seahorse-plugins/+bug/796752/
[16:27] <Boreeas> sipior: Sorry, I didn't understand that. What is that going to do?
[16:28] <sipior> LjL: reserved blocks is an ancient defense mechanism, which wastes tens of gigabytes on modern drives. time to bury it.
[16:28] <gandhijee_> hey, what do i need to install in the base chroot ubuntu to have it setup a different hostname for itself, and get the color and auto-complete stuff going on?
[16:28] <LjL> sipior: is there a replacement for it, though?
[16:29] <sipior> LjL: none is really required.
[16:29] <memyself> Firewall is active and enabled on system startup , means i got the ufw start up already or i need to restart?
[16:30] <esuave> looking for some load testing solutions to test some of my ubuntu 8 servers.. anyone know of anything good?
[16:30] <memyself> ooh , it's firestarter that is obselete
[16:30] <sipior> Boreeas: ext filesystem creation generally reserves a small portion of disk block for exclusive access of the superuser. this is old-fashioned, but surprisingly common even on modern machines. turn it off, and get a fair bit of space back.
[16:30] <sipior> Boreeas: you'll still want to claim that unused 50GB, but this might take some of the pressure off.
[16:31] <Boreeas> sipior: So /dev/<device> would be the ubuntu filesystem, not the unallocated? Alright, I'll do that, thanks
[16:32] <gandhijee_> sipior, the reason it still exists is so that the system still has space for log files... if that particular volume isn't being used for any logging use tune2fs to change the storage amount
[16:32] <sipior> Boreeas: yep, the partition you want to modify.
[16:32] <sipior> gandhijee_: no, that's not why.
[16:32] <gandhijee_> then why
[16:32] <LjL> Boreeas: please keep in mind that the operation sipior is suggesting *does* take away the capability for root processes to access reserved blocks, which might impair those processes' ability to do their work when the disk is full. if you do that, be aware of the consequences.
[16:32] <sipior> gandhijee_: this isn't the 80's.
[16:32] <gandhijee_> so you don't keep log files for you systems?
[16:32] <gandhijee_> i know its save my butt before.
[16:32] <sipior> gandhijee_: that's nice.
[16:33] <gandhijee_> so you still haven't given a valid reason....
[16:35] <sipior> gandhijee_: i have no interest in validating my opinions to you. do what you want, as i will.
[16:35] <LjL> sipior: the problem is not what you do but what you recommend to people in this channel.
[16:35] <gandhijee_> pretty much
[16:36] <gandhijee_> if you have a good reason for it, then please share, otherwise, don't just say this is what it is.
[16:36] <sipior> LjL: spare me your tedious mewling, i'm not interested in a discussion.
[16:36] <tado> anyone has good suggestions on how to open a pgp encrypted file in nautilus?
[16:36] <llutz> tune2fs -m1 /dev/foo (still too much) as a compromise. those 5% default is ...
[16:37] <Sicp> please see this thread, http://askubuntu.com/questions/76712/setting-nautilus-open-terminal-to-launch-terminator-rather-than-gnome-terminal
[16:37] <Sicp> look at the first answer, I cannot find anything called "dconf-tools" in my repositories. All I can find is "dconf" and it doesn't have a "gsettings" tool with it
[16:37] <sipior> llutz: that is indeed fair, at least on /. still, when has that been a problem in the last decade? :-)
[16:38] <llutz> sipior: that root-reserved blocks only make sense on / or /tmp or /var, but is pretty nonsense on all other data-fs
[16:38] <sipior> llutz: even then, i have reservations (ahem)
[16:40] <Sicp> why do I need dconf-tools anyway
[16:40] <Sicp> can't I change that value from gconf-editor?
[16:40] <pfifo> llutz, what about fragmentation concerns?
[16:40] <Sicp> I just follow the package names
[16:41] <h00k> Sicp: because new things are using dconf, if i recall correctly
[16:41] <Sicp> new? I'm on 10.04
[16:41] <Sicp> still considered new?
[16:41] <sipior> pfifo: that becomes an issue above 85%-90% usage. you surely wouldn't reserve that much?
[16:42] <pfifo> sipior, I would reserver 10-15 sure, but I dont usually use my whole partitions
[16:42] <Sicp> I will just uninstall nautilus-open-in-terminal and reinstall it
[16:42] <Sicp> it should adapt to the new environment variables
[16:43] <kronnix> ge
[16:43] <h00k> Sicp: I'm looking for a relevant article
[16:43] <kronnix> yi
[16:43] <Sicp> I already posted one above, h00k
[16:43] <kronnix> maycom
[16:43] <Sicp> but I don't have "dconf-tools" in my repos
[16:43] <Sicp> here it is, h00k, http://askubuntu.com/questions/76712/setting-nautilus-open-terminal-to-launch-terminator-rather-than-gnome-terminal
[16:43] <h00k> Sicp: was it the http://askubuntu.com/questions/91403/when-to-use-gconf-vs-dconf ?
[16:43] <h00k> Sicp: ah, okay.
[16:45] <h00k> Sicp: oh, those gsettings settings, those can go directly in a terminal
[16:45] <Sicp> without the gsettings directive?
[16:45] <infeeeee> hello i have loading problem, the ubuntu title appears, but the five dots remain red
[16:45] <Sicp> because it doesn't recognize "gsettings"
[16:45] <h00k> Sicp: I gotcha. I am now following
[16:46] <pfifo> infeeeee, turn off the boot splash to get an error message if there is one
[16:46] <Sicp> under the gconf-editor > / > desktop > applications > terminal > I've set the exec and exec_arg just like I wanted, I had set them before in Preferred Applications and they took effect in gconf-editor of course
[16:47] <h00k> Sicp: I don't have 10.04 box handy, try installing dconf and using the gsettings directive
[16:47] <Sicp> I uninstalled nautilus-open-in-terminal and I'm going to restart nautilus
[16:47] <Sicp> it didn't work, h00k
[16:47] <h00k> Sicp: okay.
[16:47] <Sicp> brb
[16:48] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[16:48] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey i need to install sykpe <IP_ADDRESS>-1 because 2.2 work very bad on my computer. i have add the good line in sources.list, and now "apt-cache show skype" show to me 2 differents versions of skype whith the same "package name", how i can install the <IP_ADDRESS>-1 ? tanks
[16:49] <LjL> Schrodinger`Cat: sudo apt-get install skype=<IP_ADDRESS>-1   however it will be replaced with the newer version if it's in a repo that you have enabled, as soon as you dist-upgrade.
[16:49] <auronandace> !pinning | Schrodinger`Cat
[16:50] <Sicp> it still doesn't work, I guess nautilus-open-terminal just takes gnome-terminal as the default
[16:50] <Sicp> I need those dconf-tools
[16:51] <pfifo> !info dconf-tools
[16:51] <pfifo> sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[16:53] <infeeeee> how can i turn off the bootsplash?
[16:53] <bazhang> infeeeee, permanently? or just the once
[16:53] <pfifo> infeeeee, at the grub menu press 'e' and delete the 'quiet splash' part of the kernel line
[16:53] <infeeeee> bazhang: permanently
[16:54] <bazhang> !nox | infeeeee this one?
[16:54] <Schrodinger`Cat> thanks auronandace ubottu LjL
[16:54] <goldcityman> hello, i have ubuntu 9.10, how can i know the hardware of pc?
[16:54] <bazhang> goldcityman, sudo lshw
[16:54] <jpds> goldcityman: lshw
[16:54] <goldcityman> ok thanks
[16:56] <Syco54645_work> anyone using thunderbird with gnome-shell? i am trying to find a way to do persistant email alerts. i keep missing emails at work.
[16:57] <pfifo> Is there anyway I can configure since ubuntu 10.04?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> pfifo  configure what exactly?
[17:00] <Guest65013> Hi people
[17:00] <Guest65013> Anyone here use en17?
[17:01] <DaniG2k> guys I'm trying to play TripleA but when I try to run it I get an error that says
[17:02] <DaniG2k> Could not find Java.
[17:02] <DaniG2k> You must have Java installed and in your path.
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> DaniG2k  install open jdk, not sun-jdk
[17:02] <Guest65013> Use synaptic and install java?
[17:02] <DaniG2k> i have openjdk installed already
[17:03] <Guest65013> <<  /win1 >>
[17:03] <Guest65013> oops
[17:05] <DaniG2k> MonkeyDust: could it be that it requires version 7? but i don't think so...
[17:06] <Guest65013> Guys anyone here has used enlightenment?
[17:06] <Guest65013> Can't get net to work in En17
[17:07] <pfifo> !anybody | Guest65013
[17:07] <three18ti> what would cause the umask of a directory not to show the `d` flag when `ls -la`?
[17:08] <Guest65013> !details
[17:08] <llutz> three18ti: what does it show? l for link?
[17:09] <three18ti> llutz, just a `-` it's not a link.
[17:09] <Guest65013> I have a problem with enlightenment. I installed it today and my wifi is not working in it.
[17:09] <pfifo> !work | Guest65013
[17:10] <pikaciu> it is on strike!!!
[17:11] <llutz> three18ti: "stat yourdir"   says what?
[17:11] <pfifo> in that case, simply coerce its union delegate
[17:11] <pikaciu> :-))))
[17:12] <three18ti> llutz http://pastebin.com/qyjbqmdW
[17:12] <llutz> three18ti: so it's a regular file and not a dir
[17:15] <three18ti> llutz, that's the problem, it is indeed a directory but the FS sees it as a file.
[17:15] <micutzu> hy all
[17:15] <llutz> three18ti: fsck
[17:15] <KayGridley> afternoon all
[17:15] <micutzu> hy
[17:16] <scwizard> netstat tells me that tomcat is listening on port 5005 for remote debugging, just like I want it to
[17:16] <KayGridley> anyone able to help getting an ubuntu server to talk to the rest of the network it's sitting as part of please?
[17:16] <micutzu> i'm sorry does counter-strike work on Xubuntu 11.10?
[17:16] <scwizard> however when I nmap the tomcat server from another place, it says that only ports 22 and 8080 are open
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> micutzu  wrong channel
[17:16] <three18ti> llutz, thanks.
[17:17] <micutzu> ok so where sould i go?
[17:17] <scwizard> (and naturally I'm having difficulties remote debugging tomcat)
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> !info tomcat
[17:17] <auronandace> !appdb | micutzu
[17:17] <scwizard> MonkeyDust, it's a ubuntu question, sorta like "if an applicaiton is listening on a port, why can't I conect to it on that port"
[17:17] <micutzu> thanx
[17:18] <scwizard> and you mean
[17:18] <scwizard> !info tomcat6
[17:18] <KayGridley> my default gateway is unreachable if anyone can help
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  how are you online? via the gateway?
[17:19] <cromag> is there a channel regarding webhosting ?
[17:19] <scwizard> cromag: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:20] <damo22> how do u tell if your kernel is 64 bit
[17:20] <auronandace> damo22: uname -a
[17:20] <Polah> damo22: Run uname -i. If it's 64-bit it will output x86_64.
[17:20] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust: online via a windows netbook running wireless onto the same network as the server, so the gateway is working
[17:21] <damo22> 2.6.32-312-ec2 #24-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 7 18:31:34 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:21] <BlouBlou> damo22: that's not 64
[17:21] <auronandace> damo22: thats 32bit
[17:21] <damo22> good news
[17:22] <KayGridley> I used sudo route add gw (ip address) eth0
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  so the gateway *is* reachabe, but not from your ubuntu pc? is it wifi or with cable?
[17:22] <damo22> but the endianness of that machine is different to mine i think
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> reachable*
[17:22] <KayGridley> the ubuntu server is cable, both ends flashing nicely
[17:22] <damo22> how do i test endianness
[17:22] <KayGridley> thanks btw :)
[17:22] <winnie667> hello! what packages am i missing if nm-applet refuses to ask for a keyring password when connection to an encrypted wifi?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  can you ping the gateway from your ubuntu pc?
[17:23] <iggymydog> i am runni9ng ubuntu on an olc computer dell demension 4600 with a pemtium 4 and it says my hard disk is failing
[17:23] <iggymydog> my computer is also very slow
[17:23] <iggymydog> can someone help me?
[17:23] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust no I get "Network is unreachable"
[17:23] <winnie667> i hage network-manager-gnome gnome-keyring and libpam-gnome-keyring installed
[17:23] <iggymydog> i am runni9ng ubuntu on an olc computer dell demension 4600 with a pemtium 4 and it says my hard disk is failing
[17:23] <KayGridley> sounding like a dead cable do you think?
[17:24] <damo22> demension is right
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  does the ubuntu pc have a static ip address or dynamic (dhcp)?
[17:24] <pikaciu> KayGridley: the led on the router is  on ?
[17:24] <chaos_zero> hello, i have ubuntu server instaled...new to using just  the cli... I have 6 wired connections and one wireless. I want to configure so that the wireless is bridged between the server and five of the wired connections. the last wired connection is another slower connection that i want to activate only if the wireless fails/disonnects. how hard is this to do?
[17:24] <winnie667> iggymydog: it won't help to repeat your question, what do you expect us to do? send you a new HD? If your system informs you that your HD is failing then that's what's happening
[17:24] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust I've set it to static as it's part of a rack of other servers
[17:25] <iggymydog> yes i know.......... i expect you to help me solve it
[17:25] <KayGridley> pikaciu aye, well the 40+ on the switch are :) including the ones linked into the server I'm trying ot connect
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  has it worked before? is the network correct, in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[17:25] <Zinkyr> salut
[17:25] <iggymydog> my friend doesent have a hard drive he runs ubuntu from his dickdrive
[17:25] <Polah>  iggymydog: It means your hard drive is physically failing. You'll need to get a new hard drive.
[17:25] <pra7eek_> Guys I installed the enlightenment desktop environment and my net does not work in it. I can't connect to the wifi network. Any solutions?
[17:25] <Zinkyr> English ?
[17:25] <damo22> iggymydog: sounds like you need a new dickdrive
[17:25] <iggymydog> yes i know i need a new one....
[17:26] <scarleo> damaltor, :D dickdrive
[17:26] <iggymydog> dickdrive?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> language
[17:26] <pikaciu> KayGridley: what 's the gateway ip ?  <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[17:26] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust: no, this is the first time its been installed as an ubuntu server, previous to this week it was a defunct spare windows server that ws powered down
[17:26] <Polah> iggymydog: So what do you need us to help you with?
[17:26] <iggymydog> is there a way to turn a cd drive into a hard drive
[17:26] <KayGridley> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:26] <damo22> iggymydog: yes, hit it with a hammer and it becomes hard
[17:27] <Polah> iggymydog: No. Unless you want to store all your data discs and swap them out all the time.
[17:27] <iggymydog> Polah: i need some way to make my computer work without useing a hard drive
[17:27] <KayGridley> but I suspect that is an internal
[17:27] <KayGridley> not external
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  what's the outcome of dig|grep SERVER ?
[17:27] <iggymydog> ok........
[17:27] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust what does that do?
[17:27] <KayGridley> sorry v. new to ubuntu
[17:27] <iggymydog> Polah: then could you help me turn my other computer into a linux
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  to know your gateway's address
[17:27] <iggymydog> Polah: its already a puppy linux but i cant get uvb=buntu on it
[17:27] <Polah> iggymydog: Just buy a new hard drive for your laptop and replace the failing drive...
[17:28] <mister2> hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view?
[17:28] <iggymydog> Polah:its a desktop
[17:28] <KayGridley> ooh thats odd
[17:28] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust it puts a # between 2 and 53
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> ...
[17:28] <iggymydog> Polah: and besides im not looking to spend money thats not what i want
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  what's the complete line?
[17:29] <meco> I'm looking for something to which I can simply provide a file of ping replies and it'll do the rest by itself giving me a nice graphical output...
[17:29] <chaos_zero> no ideas? =P
[17:29] <KayGridley> ;; SERVER: <IP_ADDRESS>#53(<IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:29] <Polah> chaos_zero, about what?
[17:29] <chaos_zero> oh, ill put it once more
[17:29] <chaos_zero> hello, i have ubuntu server instaled...new to using just  the cli... I have 6 wired connections and one wireless. I want to configure so that the wireless is bridged between the server and five of the wired connections. the last wired connection is another slower connection that i want to activate only if the wireless fails/disonnects. how hard is this to do?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  the gateway's address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:29] <Polah> iggymydog: What errors do you get when attempting to install Ubuntu on your other system?
[17:29] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view?
[17:30] <iggymydog>  i have a dell inspron 530 with intel duo core 2 that was windows vista.......i changed it to puppylinux running puppy from the diskdrive the hard drive is tottaly empty what do i do? ive tried installing ubuntu before but couldent do it
[17:30] <llutz> MonkeyDust: thats the nameserver, not the gateway
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> ok
[17:30] <llutz> MonkeyDust: they _can_ be identical, but its not a must
[17:30] <Polah> iggymydog, what do you mean "couldn't do it"? Did you get errors, failure to boot, or what?
[17:30] <iggymydog> ubuntu just wouldent run.....it would come up on the desktop but no icons or enything would come up and it would freeze there
[17:30] <KayGridley> llutz: they are different on this network
[17:30] <iggymydog> i couldent evin see a mouse
[17:30] <Polah> iggymydog, are you sure the image you downloaded was correct and your burn to disc/USB drive was correct?
[17:31] <KayGridley> and .2 would be correct for one of the nameservers
[17:31] <chaos_zero> polah help meeeeee :)
[17:31] <pra7eek_> Guys I installed the enlightenment on my ubuntu 11.10 and now i can't connect to my wifi network. Any suggestions?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> KayGridley  what's the outcome of grep name  /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:32] <pikaciu> KayGridley: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:32] <KayGridley> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:32] <KayGridley> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:32] <iggymydog> yes
[17:32] <iggymydog> im sure it was correct
[17:32] <KayGridley> ooh can ping .2
[17:32] <Polah> chaos_zero, it's certainly possible although I don't know details of exactly how. This should be a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[17:32] <iggymydog> Polah: i used it to install it on this computer
[17:33] <KayGridley> ok so not a dead cable then
[17:33] <Polah> iggymydog, was it burned to a disc or is it an image on a USB drive?
[17:33] <iggymydog> usb drive
[17:33] <chaos_zero> heard, will examine
[17:33] <Polah> iggymydog, what GPU do you have on the other system?
[17:34] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> !info evince
[17:34] <iggymydog> Polah: gpu?
[17:35] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust was that to me?
[17:35] <Polah> iggymydog, graphics card. Did you buy your computer prebuilt? Do you have a model name for it?
[17:36] <iggymydog> its a dell inspron 530 it ran windows vista 64 bit just fine......
[17:36] <mister2> monkeydust: not too helpful
[17:36] <KayGridley> MonkeyDust and llutz thnx for the help, got to run, probably back tomorrow!
[17:36] <iggymydog> Polah:dell inspron 530 it ran windows vista 64 bit just fine
[17:36] <iggymydog> Polah:the graphics card can handel it
[17:38] <iggymydog> Polah: i have a ubuntu cd in it right now ready to boot imma try it
[17:38] <mazen_> Hi
[17:39] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view? i'm googling and finding nothing... someone else had this issue but didn't have anything to say about how to fix it
[17:41] <mister2> !evince
[17:41] <troy-> i've installed ubuntu 11.10 - how can i encrypt the entire filesystem?
[17:41] <troy-> the alternative installer did not work for me
[17:42] <mneptok> troy-: you need to define encrypted space during manual partitioning of the alternate installation
[17:42] <meco> OK, what's the best approach for documenting the lousy quality of my ISP uplink, say over a 24-hour period? I'm thinking of saving the ping replies to a file and then creating a graphical output from that. Any easy way of doing this?
[17:43] <troy-> mneptok: the alt installer could not find the usb key
[17:43] <troy-> so i was forced to use the regular installer
[17:44] <pikaciu> meco: write a script and then libeoffice speadshhet to create a graphic
[17:44] <mneptok> troy-: i have no idea if the GUI installer supports LVM, as i always use the alternate.
[17:44] <meco> pikaciu: I can't code.
[17:44] <gridbag> why is the desktop so slow this release? Dash Home takes 1.5 seconds to show up. This is driving me bats.
[17:44] <meco> I was thinking there is probably an app made by someone already which will do this...
[17:44] <Pumpkin-> meco: investigate a package called smokeping. Gives you output like http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping-demo/?target=Customers.OP
[17:45] <gridbag>   well, maybe .5 secs now.
[17:45] <mneptok> troy-: the system you *did* install should have the USB Ctreator tool, and you can use that to put the -alternate .iso on USB media
[17:45] <meco> Pumpkin-: appreciate it
[17:45] <gridbag>   its as annoying as hell. all my apps take >2 secs to start the firs ttime.  Home Folder, xchat, etc.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> gridbag  install preload, it loads the most frequently used programs faster
[17:53] <color> Does anyone know how to auto start csf?
[17:53] <mister2> anyone? hey guys, is there a way to tell evince to change whether a cover page is by itself in dual view? i'm googling and finding nothing... someone else had this issue but didn't have anything to say about how to fix it
[17:54] <module000> color: create an upstart script for it, use the sysV script that comes with it, or do it badly with rc.local.  take your pick
[17:54] <color> module000: cool thanks
[17:55] <color> module000: if you don't mind me asking what is a sysV script?
[17:56] <forever1> why does VLC player stutter when changing a song?
[17:56] <color> module000: all I see is perl scripts and bash..
[17:56] <module000> color: a sysV script is the type of script you find in /etc/init.d - generic unix start-up scripts. they are replaced in ubuntu by upstart, which uses scripts in /etc/init
[17:57] <module000> color: did you run the install script for csf?
[17:57] <color> module000: gotcha, but should I just make a softlink to the actual csf.pl script?
[17:57] <lea255ace> this a good place for help with a script?
[17:57] <Teddy1> best app for testing the local network security?
[17:57] <Teddy1> for 10.10
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> !best| Teddy1
[17:58] <Teddy1> !best network security test
[17:58] <module000> color: you shouldn't need to, did you run the installer script that came with csf?
[17:58] <Teddy1> dont know how to use that bot
[17:59] <color> module000: it looks like ther is a csf bash script in /etc/init.d/ already but it has the optionst o start
[17:59] <color> module000: it looks like ther is a csf bash script in /etc/init.d/ already but it has the optionst o start|stop|relaod
[17:59] <vlt> Hello. I installed oneiric via debootstrap and now get "kernel: cannot read proc file system: 1 - Operation not permitted." about 5e06 times a minute. Any idea how to fix this?
[17:59] <color> module000: yes..I think, I just did make && make install
[18:00] <module000> color: that's good, it means it installed it's own sysV script. now you would want to make a symlink to that in /etc/rc2.d    - try `ln -s /etc/init.d/csf /etc/rc2.d/S99csf`
[18:00] <module000> color: that would tell it to start last after you reboot
[18:01] <michael_44> Any one in here use Zorin?
[18:01] <vlt> !anyone | michael_44
[18:02] <lea255ace> how do I get cd working from within a script?
[18:02] <vlt> lea255ace: Just use it.
[18:03] <theadmin> lea255ace: It does work, however it will not change the directory after the script exits. That is, it does not propagate to parent shell. You can't change that.
[18:03] <color> module000: it looks like the symlink was created
[18:03] <michael_44> How do I change the effect of the window that I exit out off?  I see peaces flying every where.  Is there another eye candy?
[18:03] <module000> then you should be good
[18:03] <lea255ace> would it work to do $ source 'script.h'
[18:04] <color> module000: but unlike all of the other symlinks in the folder the new one I created is red...
[18:04] <Eren> why is herrie deleted from 11.10=
[18:04] <Eren> ?
[18:04] <michael_44> ok going to do some more research and reading.
[18:05] <module000> color: that means it is broken. are you sure there is a file at: /etc/init.d/csf
[18:05] <color> module000: oh, wait it looks like there is already a link to ../init.d/csf in there
[18:05] <color> module000: and yes it is broken :s sorry
[18:05] <module000> color: remove the one you made(the red one), if there is already one there you aer done
[18:05] <vlt> vlt: I think I booted an old kernel.
[18:05] <michael_44> hhmmm less see, how many people are in this chan.. And all I get talking to me is a BOT lol
[18:06] <lea255ace> exit
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Eren  what's herrie exactly?
[18:06] <color> module000: to remove the symlink I would just delete it from the folder and it wont remove the binary?
[18:06] <color> module000: to remove the symlink I would just delete it from the folder and it wont remove the or script
[18:06] <module000> color: that's right, it will only remove the link
[18:06] <color> module000: thanks.
[18:07] <color> module000: I guess my next question would be why does it keep shutting down.. I figured it wasn't starting but looks like it stops.
[18:08] <Eren> MonkeyDust: minimalistic mp3/flac/ogg player
[18:08] <module000> color: can't help you there, check your syslog and possibly follow up with csf support
[18:08] <Eren> MonkeyDust: with audioscrobbler (last.fm) support
[18:08] <Eren> I'm really unhappy about it as herrie is a really useful program
[18:09] <color> module000: cool, thanks for all the help.
[18:10] <Combatjuan> Maybe this is a silly question but when I run 'df' it shows several temporary filesystems including 'tmpfs - /lib/init/rw', 'varrun - /var/run', 'varlock - /var/lock', 'udev - /dev', and 'tmpfs - /dev/shm'.  Each shows sized as 7.8G.  Is that memory unavailable for other uses?
[18:10] <color> module000: have you ever used tmux?
[18:10] <module000> color: no i haven't
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> or byobu <3
[18:12] <metaflops> part
[18:14] <color> module000: it is kinda cool if don't have X.. it splits the tty's in half..Sorry for being a noob but I would like to learn all I can about linux!
[18:14] <Guest41763> madagascar 2
[18:14] <trism> color: you can also detach it and reattach it later, so it is great over ssh
[18:15] <color> trism: are you talking about tmux or screen?
[18:16] <module000> color: it's ok, we all have to learn at some point. `screen` is what i use btw
[18:17] <chreekat> On 11.10, how do I go about choosing to boot a different kernel?
[18:18] <ai6pg> chreekat - when booting - grub you should be able to use your arrow keys to open a list of possible additional kernels to boot from if they are installed into grub.
[18:19] <trism> color: both
[18:20] <chreekat> ai6pg: I can't seem to make the grub menu pop up. Is there some key I can press so it doesn't automatically boot the default? Is there some way to make the wait-time longer? I've managed to find /etc/default/grub, which has GRUB_TIMEOUT=10, but I think that's a red herring
[18:20] <chreekat> I haven't configured grub in a while, and it looks like things have changed. :)
[18:20] <ai6pg> Chreekat: try escape
[18:21] <vlt> Hello. I installed oneiric via debootstrap and now have no audio or network device available. dbus-daemon seems to fail. Any idea what to check first?
[18:21] <ai6pg> chreekat: have you use the ubuntu/debian way of building/installing other kernels ?
[18:21] <color> trism: with screen can you 'split' a tty so you have many 'boxes' on the tty?
[18:22] <color> trism: that is the whole reason I found tmux
[18:22] <color> trism: you can sort of alt+f1-f4 them and see everything you are doing
[18:23] <Rogue|Panda_> ok so running ubuntu 11.1, is it possible to just run the older gnome?
[18:24] <auronandace> !gnome2 | Rogue|Panda_
[18:24] <trism> color: yes, you can split screen too, but I use tmux these days as well
[18:24] <Rogue|Panda_> wait.... so gnome2 is dead?
[18:24] <Rogue|Panda_> that makes me a sad panda
[18:24] <Rogue|Panda_> !nounity
[18:25] <Rogue|Panda> hmm xchat just disappeared
[18:25] <harovali> hi, i'm getting the 'Format unsupported (text/plain)' message, when asking cups to print a text file. How can I teach cups to print it ?
[18:26] <color> trism: I do not use X so I am trying to 'pimp my console' not having much luck with fbspash splash.. got any cool console hacks?
[18:26] <chreekat> ai6pg: just standand upgrades installing new kernels. My webcam is no longer recognized and I thought I'd see if an older kernel would still recognize it. I've got 3.0.0-14 and 3.0.0-15 installed and I thought i'd try to run 3.0.0-14
[18:26] <chreekat> but otoh, it looks like 3.0.0-14 was installed on 22-jan and I certainly used my webcam after that. So maybe this wouldn't help anyway. :/
[18:27] <chreekat> *3.0.0-15
[18:27] <xafarder> eres
[18:28] <Rogue|Panda> hmm all this time I thought this channel was on it's own server
[18:28] <trism> color: sorry, I do not, I almost always use X, it doesn't really use many resources if you use something light like ratpoison/awesome/openbox
[18:28] <auronandace> Rogue|Panda: nope, part of freenode
[18:29] <Rogue|Panda> ok, so... gnome2 is dead, that sucks
[18:29] <color> trism: used to use fluxbox..
[18:32] <auronandace> Rogue|Panda: i can recomend xfce
[18:32] <Rogue|Panda> I used it a while back
[18:33] <Rogue|Panda> I gotta admit, I like the prettyness of gnome but not digging the newest setup
[18:33] <chreekat> New question: why does 'colord' own /var/log/kern.log.
[18:33] <pikaciu> lxde
[18:33] <auronandace> Rogue|Panda: i've never found gnome pretty, but i must admit there aren't many good themes on xfce
[18:34] <Rogue|Panda> been a while since I tried KDE
[18:34] <thibaut> Salut
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !fr| thibaut
[18:34] <Rogue|Panda> havent tried it since 4 came out, and it was a mess
[18:34] <thibaut> Sorry, bye :)
[18:35] <module000> chreekat: look for your webcam in the output of `lspci -vvv`. see if it has a "Driver in use:" section, if that is blank then you updated yourself out of a webcam driver
[18:35] <module000> Rogue|Panda: tried gnome-shell?
[18:35] <Rogue|Panda> nope
[18:35] <module000> Rogue|Panda: are you using unity or something?
[18:36] <Rogue|Panda> module000, yeah
[18:36] <module000> Rogue|Panda: unity = canonical's idea of what gnome3 should look like.  gnome-shell = gnome's idea of what gnome should look like.
[18:36] <module000> Rogue|Panda: you might like it more(or less), but just a thought
[18:36] <Rogue|Panda> looks nice but starting to irk me
[18:36] <Rogue|Panda> I ran gnome3 on Mint, but you couldnt really configure it
[18:37] <Rogue|Panda> so if I install it, it will be in the options at the login screen?
[18:37] <module000> Rogue|Panda: yea none of the old gnome2 tools are present to customize as much. 'gnometweak' is pretty useful, but still nor eplacement for all the goodies gnome2 had to customize the experience
[18:37] <Rogue|Panda> gnome-shell that is
[18:37] <module000> Rogue|Panda: yep
[18:37] <module000> Rogue|Panda: it will just be listed as 'Gnome'
[18:38] <chreekat> module000: It doesn't even show up in lspci. :( I suppose that indicates a hardware problem, eh?
[18:38] <module000> chreekat: is this a laptop?
[18:38] <chreekat> module000: it is
[18:38] <module000> chreekat: make sure you don't have a hotkey combination with a picture of your webcam on it, if it's not in lspci there is a good chance it's turned "off". like a function key would accomplish
[18:39] <inox^> Hi
[18:39] <module000> chreekat: and as a last resort, take a look in `lsusb` as well(in case it's connected via usb). and look at `dmesg` for any sign of it
[18:39] <chreekat> module000: ah holy crap, thank you. This is in fact not the first time I've done this. Totally forgot about that key. Musta hit it on accident.
[18:39] <module000> chreekat: :)
[18:39] <chreekat> module000:  :)
[18:39] <Rogue|Panda> I hate those fn keys
[18:40] <chreekat> Yeah, if this happens again I might have to look into disabling it
[18:40] <Rogue|Panda> I go to hit the "2" key and miss and turn off my wifi
[18:40] <chreekat> Rogue|Panda: What I like about this laptop is this particular order of fn keys: [mute][sleep][vol-down][vol-up]
[18:42] <diimdeep> Hello, there is diagram like this http://dougseven.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/win8-new-platform.png?w=660 about technology that is present in Ubuntu/linux ?
[18:43] <acerimmer> Rogue|Panda: on my dell 1545, I can alternate between fn and alternate keypress in the bios menu.
[18:43] <module000> diimdeep: that doesn't translate directly to ubuntu, you're looking for more of a "X Windows" chart if you want apples to apples
[18:44] <trism> diimdeep: maybe something like this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/documentation/platform-diagram/ ?
[18:45] <acerimmer> !ubuntu-dev|tdiimdeep
[18:45] <csabi> hello somebody can help me?? I don't have bootsplash only purple background
[18:45] <diimdeep> module000: let me refrase: There is diagram that describes what Tools, OS APIs, Language available for writing applications ?
[18:45] <acerimmer> !developer|diimdeep
[18:47] <MFen> anyone know why ssh-agent stops working after i log out and back in?
[18:48] <MFen> it's one of the programs i have in Xsession.d but i don't know what the lifecycle of those programs is
[18:48] <MFen> it's still running when i log back in, appears to be the same instance.
[18:48] <MFen> restarting it, even with the same command line i can see in "pgrep" output, does not work.
[18:49] <MFen> (likely because dbus also seems to be screwed up at that point.. gvim gets errors r/t dbus)
[18:49] <diimdeep> trism: it's good, maybe there is more detailed diagram..
[18:49] <csabi> hello somebody can help me?? I don't have bootsplash only purple background
[18:50] <dak0> csabi: Have you changed anyting on Nvidia control panel ?
[18:50] <acerimmer> csabi: so you can't log in ??
[18:50] <fzlamn> how to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/1eVcFEQT
[18:51] <kdkdkdkll> is there a pastebin feature here
[18:51] <csabi> i can log in but not show the bootsplash
[18:51] <MFen> fzlamn: likely an error in the url. are you using an https:// url? if you bring it up in a browser do you get an error?
[18:51] <acerimmer> !paste|kdkdkdkll
[18:52] <csabi> and only show the purple background..
[18:52] <fzlamn> MFen: i'll paste it again
[18:52] <iText> i installed a native package from my deb file, it installed successfully, but unable to find where it has been installed and how to run it
[18:53] <kdkdkdkll> hi can someone check the rkhunter log file here out http://paste.ubuntu.com/825457/
[18:53] <kdkdkdkll> had some warnings
[18:54] <kdkdkdkll> why dont the identity hashes of computer programs match their database
[18:54] <fzlamn> MFen: i try to add new ppa to my 11.10 and this problem occur http://pastebin.com/1eVcFEQT
[18:54] <MFen> fzlamn: i already responded to that error, see above.
[18:55] <fzlamn> MFen: you cannot open the url?
[18:55] <MFen> fzlamn: i see your pastebin just fine. it doesn't include the command you're typing, but i assume there is a url of some kind that you are typing. that url is probably wrong, or the server at the other end is wrong
[18:56] <pikaciu> iText : usually in /usr/bin and try to type the app name in a terminal
[18:57] <fzlamn> MFen: okay... it happen when i try to add any ppa
[18:57] <kdkdkdkll> is it possible to send the log to rkhunter themselves perhaps
[18:57] <MFen> fzlamn: when you ask a question you should include the command you're typing or the actions you are doing
[18:58] <iText> pikaclu: i was unable to locate, tried with package name, also fails
[18:58] <pikaciu> iText : sudo find / -name app-name  -print
[18:58] <fzlamn> MFen: it happen when i put in this command sudo apt-add-repository ppa:unity-team/ppa
[18:59] <MFen> fzlamn: ok. next question: do you have a network proxy of some kind?
[18:59] <fzlamn> MFen: no i don't
[19:00] <MFen> fzlamn: the error you're getting indicates that apt-add-repository is making a connection to a server which it *thinks* is using https (TLS), but is, in fact, not
[19:00] <MFen> that suggests you're being redirected to a proxy, or something else is interfering
[19:00] <_Ethan_> hi
[19:01] <iText> pikaclu: it was there at //usr/share/doc/package, but how can i run it?
[19:01] <kdkdkdkll> no yes no
[19:01] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: greetings
[19:01] <_Ethan_> one question, i just renamed a file with "mv example.py simplegui.py"
[19:01] <pikaciu> iText : are you sure you have installed that app ?
[19:01] <_Ethan_> im in the folder
[19:01] <_Ethan_> i can see the file with "ls" command
[19:02] <_Ethan_> however when i try to execute
[19:02] <_Ethan_> it
[19:02] <MFen> fzlamn: aptitude install lynx, then type: lynx https://ppa.launchpad.net/
[19:02] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: permissions - that file needs to be "executable"
[19:02] <MFen> you should get redirected to the main launchpad page. if you see an error or something else, you have proxy issues. i think there are environment variables that can fix that, but i don't know how they work (someone else in here might)
[19:02] <pikaciu> iText : a file must be present in usr/bin
[19:03] <fzlamn> MFen: i have to install lynx?
[19:03] <MFen> fzlamn: for diagnostic purposes
[19:03] <xangua> (12:59:04) fzlamn: MFen: it happen when i put in this command sudo apt-add-repository < the right comand is "add-apt-repository"
[19:03] <iText> pikaclu: i have the deb file on my folder, a native package i made, when double clicked, it took me to Ubuntu Software Center, there i clicked install, it now shows 'installed'
[19:03] <_Ethan_> but why when pressing tab i does not autocomplete?
[19:03] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: huh??
[19:03] <pikaciu> iText : what's the app ?
[19:03] <fzlamn> xangua: so my command line is wrong?
[19:04] <cosmic303> hiya all.. i was just tryin to update thunderbird, and i have no idea where i can find the current installation. in the .desktop file where i would expect the path, it just says "thunderbird %u" ..does anyone know what the %u variable is for?
[19:04] <_Ethan_> if i press tab it should complete with the name right?
[19:04] <xangua> fzlamn: what are you trying to acomplish with that outdated ppa¿ what ubuntu version do you use¿
[19:04] <iText> pikaclu: an editor, that is used to edit Devanagari Text
[19:04] <theadmin> cosmic303: Substituded by the URL of the selected file. Mainly for using with Nautilus' "Open With"
[19:04] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: yes but you have to provide enough clues for the autocomplete
[19:05] <theadmin> cosmic303: To update thunderbird, you need to just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:05] <fzlamn> xangua: i'm running 11.10
[19:05] <theadmin> cosmic303: To the latest officially available version in Ubuntu anyway
[19:05] <MFen> fzlamn: xangua: that's interesting. on my system they are symlinked to the same command. i wonder if that's not always the case? apparently on xangua's system they are different somehow
[19:05] <pikaciu> iText : the name ?
[19:05] <MFen> fzlamn: ls -l /usr/bin/apt-add-repository
[19:05] <iText> pikaclu: this deb package i made, it is still not ported to ubuntu
[19:05] <MFen> if it's a link to /usr/bin/add-apt-repository, then that's not your problem
[19:05] <cosmic303> theadmin: if i do that, it tells me its the current version..but im on 3.1.16
[19:05] <cosmic303> and current should be 10.0
[19:06] <theadmin> cosmic303: Ah, sounds like you need to change to another Ubuntu release then, or use the PPAs.
[19:06] <xangua> fzlamn: then you already have unity 4
[19:06] <auronandace> !info firefox lucid
[19:06] <xangua> fzlamn: that ppa has a beta version, i see no need for it
[19:06] <theadmin> cosmic303: Run this, please: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:06] <cosmic303> kk, lemme try that
[19:07] <_Ethan_> acerimmer,  thanks. But for example, in my desktop i have only one file, "test.odt" , in the terminal shouldnt it appear when pressing tab?
[19:07] <_Ethan_> ls
[19:07] <pikaciu> iText : if you don't have and executive file (in usr(bin, ad example) you cannot run an application
[19:07] <_Ethan_> ls         test.odt            xx@xx:~/Desktop$
[19:08] <_Ethan_> so, if i write "tes" and press tab, why it does not complete?
[19:08] <acerimmer> _Ethan_: not a terminal expert but in my experience, autocomplete only pertains to commands
[19:08] <theadmin> _Ethan_: "test.odt" is not a program
[19:08] <_Ethan_> i think also for folders/files
[19:08] <_Ethan_> so, need to be a program ?
[19:08] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Therefore, you need to specify something like this: xdg-open tes<tab>
[19:09] <_Ethan_> got it now
[19:09] <_Ethan_> cd ..
[19:09] <_Ethan_> ups sorry
[19:09] <cosmic303> oh well..i guess its downloading 9.0 now..thats at least better than 3.1.16...
[19:10] <cosmic303> thank u theadmin
[19:10] <_Ethan_> theadmin,  would you recommend me any program for editing ?
[19:10] <theadmin> _Ethan_: By the way, xdg-open is the command to open the file in the default application. You can obviously just tell it to use swriter (which is the command for odt files, i.e. LibreOffice Writer) directly.
[19:10] <_Ethan_> geany for example
[19:10] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Vim is my main recommendation to everyone, but then again it's rather confusing for beginners. Geany is good. jEdit is also great and very similar, but needs Java. Cream is also a good one
[19:11] <_Ethan_> ok, then iĺl go ahead with vim
[19:11] <_Ethan_> :D
[19:11] <theadmin> _Ethan_: You need to probably learn how to use it first, because it's not just "open the editor and start typing". That is, unless you already know how to.
[19:12] <Alexeey17> hi, is there any way that i can scan my computer, and make a list of drivers compatible with my drive so that i dont have prblems when instaling?
[19:12] <fzlamn> xangua: i try to fix my unity lens, the problem is like this http://imagebin.org/196758
[19:13] <_Ethan_> theadmin, yes, thanks for the advice
[19:13] <xangua> fzlamn: well i don't see how some early beta packages outdated are gona work for
[19:14] <xangua> fzlamn: already tried simply to reset unity? :    unity --reset
[19:14] <xangua> there was also a comand to reset unity icons, but can't remember it at the moment
[19:14] <fzlamn> xangua: try it before and it wont work
[19:14] <jiltdil> Is there any way to find out how many hours my system is used after purchase?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> to reset Compiz / Unity ... gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace
[19:15] <abc> what is a default GUI config manager for webcams?
[19:15] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html fzlamn
[19:15] <mrdeb> when is unity going to be finished
[19:15] <theadmin> abc: We don't have any, however the default cam app is cheese
[19:16] <fzlamn> xangua: i'll try it, thanks
[19:16] <abc> theadmin, thanks, I have just installed it (as it was the only one close enough supported by Canonical)
[19:17] <abc> cheese segfaults :-(
[19:17] <pikaciu> wow
[19:18] <Juba> Hi every1
[19:19] <Nach0z> hey does anyone know how I can get libpopt0 1.7 on my system? I have a printer driver that needs 1.7 or above and currently all I have is 1.16
[19:20] <Slart> jiltdil: what do you mean? you want to see how long your system has been running? time since install? something else?
[19:20] <theadmin> abc: Try Kamoso
[19:20] <jiltdil> Slart: i want to know  it from first power on to till date
[19:20] <acerimmer> abc:try GUVCview
[19:20] <abc> theadmin, cannot stand KDE, thanks though
[19:21] <theadmin> abc: Yeah, it's KDE-ish allright... Hm... I'll look into some other alternatives.
[19:21] <abc> acerimmer, will try now, tnx
[19:21] <ellos> hola
[19:21] <acerimmer> ellos: greetings
[19:21] <jiltdil> Slart,  Anyway i got it man.
[19:21] <theadmin> abc: Hm, there is "wxCam"
[19:21] <Slart> jiltdil: there might be an install time somewhere in /var/log/installer/casper.log
[19:22] <fzlamn> xangua: both command it the webup8 link doesnt work
[19:22] <auronandace> jiltdil: the only way you'd find that out would be if you built it yourself
[19:22] <Slart> jiltdil: ah.. nevermind then
[19:22] <jiltdil> Slart, auronandace , you can find it by reading smart data from hard drive i got it
[19:23] <auronandace> jiltdil: sorry, i thought you meant all the hardware (not just the harddrive)
[19:24] <meco> I'm having some problems setting up smokeping. Where should I look for it in the file system?
[19:25] <acerimmer> jiltdil: sounds like something the manufacturer know about.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> meco  try /usr/bin/ , it's where intalled program are located
[19:26] <meco> MonkeyDust: OK
[19:29] <meco> Now, I have done the installating, 'sudo apt-get install smokeping', and I got no error messages. I can't find anything srtaing with smokepin in /usr/bin/? Perhaps I should searhc for it? How would I do that?
[19:29] <_cb> just installed Ubuntu Server 11.10 and upon bootup my monitor complains it is an out of range signal?
[19:29] <_trine> anyone interested in signing http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23526
[19:29] <acerimmer> meco: terminal -  locate smokeping
[19:30] <xangua> _trine: pleas stock to the topic
[19:30] <meco> I should mention it's not a regular app. It needs to be started with the start command.
[19:30] <p1pp0_666> hi!
[19:30] <_trine> xangua, I read it but decided to do it anyway as its for an excellent purpose
[19:30] <meco> 'locate smokeping' simply gave me back the pormpt.
[19:31] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm trying to use mysqldbexport, but I'm getting the following error "ImportError: No module named mysql.utilities". How can I solve this?
[19:31] <meco> Have to go /away - bbl
[19:33] <v-himanshu> wireless not working...have been digging into help docs, but can't make it working.
[19:34] <v-himanshu> 10.04
[19:34] <acerimmer> v-himanshu: hardware?
[19:34] <v-himanshu> trying with wicd manager. it detects the router, but fails to get it
[19:34] <v-himanshu> you mean model? lenevo sl410
[19:35] <acerimmer> v-himanshu: broadcom wireless card??
[19:35] <v-himanshu> its intel driver
[19:35] <v-himanshu> sorry device
[19:35] <v-himanshu> driver is iwlagn
[19:36] <v-himanshu> product: WiFi Link 1000 Series
[19:36] <v-himanshu> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
[19:36] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: run lshw and find your wireless card
[19:37] <v-himanshu> i paste it
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> meco  type 'which smokeping' , without the quotes
[19:37] <v-himanshu> fzlamn:
[19:37] <v-himanshu> description: Wireless interface
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        product: WiFi Link 1000 Series
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        physical id: 0
[19:37] <v-himanshu>        bus info: pci@0000:05:00.0
[19:37] <FloodBot1> v-himanshu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <v-himanshu> oh! I got muted
[19:38] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:38] <v-himanshu> sure
[19:38] <v-himanshu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/825513/
[19:39] <v-himanshu> fzalmn:acerimmer: does that help
[19:40] <kuhno> i am banned in #ubuntu-de? why that? O.o
[19:40] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: this is your wireless card?
[19:40] <RadiumCat> hello everyone :) can any kind soul tell me how do i add extra keyboard layouts in lxde? lxkeymap allows setting up only one language for some odd reason
[19:40] <p1pp0_666> #find eminem
[19:41] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:41] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: this is the putput of lshw -c network
[19:42] <v-himanshu> s/putput/output
[19:42] <theadmin> kuhno: Probably need to register
[19:42] <theadmin> kuhno: I didn't think Ubuntu channels are restricted to registered users, but that seems to be the case. Join #freenode for registration help
[19:42] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: $ lshw
[19:43] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:43] <theadmin> Anyways I'm off, see ya guys
[19:43] <kuhno> theadmin, i am identified with nickserv. is that what you mean with registering?
[19:43] <adom> hi all, quick question: anyway to make the Backspace key in Firefox go back a page in history, just like Windows does?
[19:43] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:43] <_cb> for some odd reason my ubuntu server 11.10 install seems to have a strange video config. Short of re-install, is there anything I can do?
[19:44] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:44] <kuhno> adom: in about:config there is a browser.backspace_action value
[19:44] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:44] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/825525/
[19:45] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[19:45] <xangua> !repeat | RadiumCat
[19:45] <iceroot> RadiumCat: stop it please
[19:45] <kuhno> adom: this will do the trick, just try to set it to somethink different, maybe 1?
[19:45] <Myrtti> RadiumCat: how about you stop trailing your questions with gazillion anyones and ask in #lubuntu?
[19:45] <adom> kuhno: thanks perfect
[19:45] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: please let me know what you are looking for.... i want to know the debugging process
[19:45] <RadiumCat> ok myrtti, sorry for being such an ass
[19:45] <hydrox24> RadiumCat: Also, that question, though not specifically disallowed here is not really relevant to ubuntu and you should go and ask it in lxde or lubuntu channe
[19:46] <adom> kuhno: Windows' is set to 0, gonna try that
[19:47] <adom> kuhno: 0 worked
[19:48] <_meberhart> is aircrack allowed for conversation in this room?
[19:49] <iceroot> _meberhart: if it is technical ubuntu related yes, if it is a question how to use it, ask there channel
[19:49] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: what version of ubuntu and your computer model?
[19:49] <_meberhart> i was just wondering if it can be installed via the package manager, or if i have to compile it from source. i searched in the package manager, but could not find it.
[19:49] <v-himanshu> fzlamn:10.04 and lenevo sl410
[19:50] <shoaei> hi
[19:50] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, did you find anything useful in the pastie?
[19:50] <iceroot> _meberhart: doesnt seem to be in the repos which is strange
[19:51] <_meberhart> hmm... guess i'll have to do it from source. thanks :)
[19:51] <milen8204> How can I do some file transfer trough network between Ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:51] <shoaei> hi 2 all
[19:51] <v-himanshu> milen8204, : seems you have two systems?
[19:51] <shoaei> pm  me sent?
[19:52] <milen8204> v-himanshu, I have Home network
[19:52] <milen8204> v-himanshu, I have a PC whit Ubuntu and laptop whit Ubuntu
[19:53] <v-himanshu> milen8204: and destination have a static ip?
[19:53] <v-himanshu> milen8204: if yes, do a scp
[19:53] <cue232s22> does anyone have experience installing RVM
[19:53] <milen8204> v-himanshu, no i have a ruter
[19:54] <v-himanshu> milen8204, only option is a usb afaik
[19:54] <v-himanshu> milen8204, sorry :)
[19:54] <DinoMuffin> or he could set up ssh
[19:55] <DinoMuffin> he needs to have at least one device on a static IP
[19:55] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, setting ssh will not ask for the destination addres?
[19:55] <milen8204> what is what is ssh
[19:55] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, yeah, that's what it is
[19:55] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: it will, but that's not something hard to find, even if it's on DHCP
[19:55] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: try look at this link http://www.linlap.com/wiki/lenovo+thinkpad+sl410
[19:55] <acerimmer> cue232s22: http://www.christopherirish.com/2010/08/25/how-to-install-rvm-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[19:55] <esuave> member:cue232s22: http://beginrescueend.com/
[19:55] <_meberhart> milen - ssh is what i'm talking about in the PM.
[19:56] <yva> hi there, a quick question is there a way to avoid having to confirm closing when I close the terminal?
[19:56] <xxiao> what's the difference between ubuntu tv and xbmc?
[19:56] <milen8204> ok thanks
[19:57] <cue232s22> thanks, Ill check them out
[19:57] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, it says wireless works
[19:58] <v-himanshu> actually mine was working too (last time i used it was 2 months back)
[19:58] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, then it just stopped working
[19:59] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, thanks so far, but it seems the link is not helping
[19:59] <msterbrewer> i am trying to access the files from my windows partion on my ubuntu  computer from my other windows computer
[19:59] <cue232s22> esuave: I tried this route but it keeps saying I don't have permission to make the folder, and I don't want to  use sudo
[19:59] <th_> hello all! who wants to redommend good and lightweight google reader for me?
[19:59] <msterbrewer> its telling me that i need to type usershare owner only = false
[19:59] <msterbrewer> how do i set that
[19:59] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: have any error when you update?
[20:00] <esuave> cue232s22: where are you trying to make the folder?
[20:00] <v-himanshu> not then
[20:00] <v-himanshu> but i updated today and it says something about missing .avahi ( i may be misspelling it)? file
[20:01] <cue232s22> @esuave I didn't specify.. I just ran the command
[20:01] <v-himanshu> that message was when i restarted after the update
[20:01] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, is that may be the cause?
[20:01] <msterbrewer> got dced
[20:02] <SteM> hi all, i upgrated to 11.10, eclipse 3.7.1 was deleted and installed 3.7.0 without any plugin: i need jdt and wst
[20:02] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, coming back to your ssh thing, what I meant was that even ssh will not help if destination system is not on a static address
[20:03] <h00k> /2/2
[20:03] <h00k> bah.
[20:03] <esuave> @cue232s22: well run it in a folder thats owned by you.. see if that works
[20:03] <msterbrewer> i am trying to access the files from my windows partion on my ubuntu  computer from my other windows computer
[20:03] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: it doesn't need to be static. But if you're setting up a dhcp server, it's best that it is static so it's not effected by DHCP
[20:03] <msterbrewer> its telling me that i need to type usershare owner only = false
[20:03] <msterbrewer> how do i set that
[20:03] <meco> How do I locate smokeping.cgi?
[20:03] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, can you jump to my problem... Though fzlamn is also trying to helping
[20:04] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, ok, will look into it
[20:04] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: I think i came in after you did
[20:04] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: i don't see your question
[20:04] <v3trae> Good afternoon, anyone had any luck with converting their one disk system to a raid1 before? Having some trouble getting grub2 to install to the raid drive
[20:05] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, ohk. So, my wireless is not working somehow. my wireless client is wicd and i can see the router.
[20:05] <v-himanshu> but it fails to connect
[20:05] <v-himanshu> lshw o/p is http://paste.ubuntu.com/825525/
[20:05] <hotea1313> hello
[20:05] <DinoMuffin> so, the wireless card can see the router, but cannot connect
[20:06] <hotea1313> im trying to access my files on my linux computer from my windows computer
[20:06] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:06] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: is your connection on DHCP or are you running static?
[20:06] <v-himanshu> its not static
[20:06] <v-himanshu> so, it should be dhcp
[20:06] <hotea1313> but when i try to share a foler on the linux puter it tlells me i need to type usershare owner only+false
[20:06] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: any recent changes to your router config?
[20:07] <v-himanshu> no
[20:07] <v-himanshu> its just the wireless thing
[20:07] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: were you able to access the router before from wireless?
[20:07] <v-himanshu> lan works good
[20:07] <v-himanshu> yes, last time it was 2 months back
[20:07] <DinoMuffin> ok
[20:07] <v-himanshu> and then i can't use _any_ wireless connection
[20:07] <th_> hello all! who wants to redommend good and lightweight google reader for me?
[20:07] <v-himanshu> neither home, nor university
[20:07] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: avahi daemon is some thing about networking
[20:08] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, yeah,  i read it... but couldn;t get it along
[20:08] <organiks> hey all
[20:08] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  I'm an Ubuntu guy, but I'd like to know if anyone has a distro suggestion for a bootable USB drive.  I'd like something that works on both PC and Mac that I can boot from, persist data to and do pen testing with.  Ideally it would be encrypted.  Are there any distros out there that excel at this?
[20:08] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, and unfortunately, i don't remember the exact filename
[20:09] <_meberhart> Charlie - Damn Small Linux and PHLAK
[20:09] <v-himanshu> it had a prefix .avahiXXX
[20:09] <kapz> Hi people! :) I would really like to learn Ubuntu like the way i learned Slackware and Arch...where should I look? I mean ubuntu has no inittab file!!!!! that's a surprise to me!
[20:09] <organiks> can i use allocate a memory stick for read write like ready boost
[20:09] <CharlieSu> _meberhart: i'll look into both..  thanks for the info..
[20:09] <Gentoo64> organiks, to use as swap?
[20:09] <organiks> yea
[20:09] <Gentoo64> you could
[20:09] <_meberhart> Charlie - no problem :)
[20:10] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: maybe you need to reinstall it. look at your synaptic, find avahi daemon that have relation to wireless network
[20:10] <Gentoo64> organiks, much point though?
[20:10] <v-himanshu> hmm
[20:10] <organiks> no?
[20:10] <Gentoo64> organiks, i wouldnt bother
[20:10] <meco> Are text-based editors more convenient than, say, gedit?
[20:10] <v-himanshu> let me restart the system and look for the exact filename. Will get back to you folks soon
[20:11] <Gentoo64> meco, hard to say
[20:11] <Gentoo64> meco, gui editors are good in the way you can just double click a file in file manager to open it
[20:11] <Gentoo64> if youre on a terminal then cli ones would be easier..
[20:11] <kapz> *wonders if he will be answered...! ...
[20:12] <CharlieSu> _meberhart: neither have been updated in years..  I have to assume there is something better..
[20:12] <meco> Gentoo64: ok
[20:12] <fzlamn> CharlieSu: try backbox
[20:13] <Gentoo64> kapz, i suppose youd just learn what changes there are as you go
[20:13] <Gentoo64> what do you mean "learn ubuntu like slackware">?
[20:14] <Gentoo64> CharlieSu, any distro will probably be alright, if its specific pen testing stuff you need to do, then most package managers have the individual apps
[20:15] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, so the message says that "my current network domain is .local, which is not recommended with avahi"
[20:15] <meco> Does anyone here have experience in setting up smokeping and can help me with it?
[20:15] <ikonia> meco: smokeping ?
[20:15] <meco> ikonia: yes
[20:15] <v-himanshu> fzlamn: sorry it has noting to do with missig file. i misread it earlier
[20:15] <v-himanshu> s/noting/nothing
[20:15] <ikonia> meco: never even heard of it, what is it and what's the issue ?
[20:15] <danols> are ubuntu and debian same?
[20:15] <ikonia> danols: no
[20:16] <acerimmer> !debian|danols
[20:16] <meco> ikonia: It's a ping utility that is accessed as a cgi script on the localfost web servers
[20:16] <ikonia> meco: sounds quite insecure
[20:16] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: seem like i can help you just here
[20:16] <meco> ikonia: It's me who is going to use it.
[20:17] <ikonia> meco: I'm sure, sounds quite insecure as a concept though
[20:17] <ikonia> meco: what's the issue setting it up ?
[20:17] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, your firstaid box doesn;t have any aid for this you mean?
[20:17] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, that's ok. Thanks for your help so far
[20:18] <v-himanshu> thing is i am looking for some pointers that might be of some help in debugging it
[20:18] <kapz> Gentoo64: I don't follow you! what do you mean exactly? Every system is different that I know, just where to look is my question.
[20:18] <v-himanshu> but its just not coming along
[20:18] <danols> so bottom line Third, Ubuntu makes much more frequent and fresher releases. Our release policy of releasing every six months is (at the time of writing :-) unique in the Linux distribution world. Ubuntu aims to provide you with a regular stable and security-supported snapshot of the best of the open source world.
[20:18] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: i guest i can help you and i'm here with a problem to.. :D
[20:18] <meco> ikonia: Well, I've installed it with no hitches. But then I'm lost trying to follow the instructions after that. http://localhost/cgi/smokeping.cgi doesn't show anything yet
[20:18] <danols> thanks guys
[20:19] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, what's yours?
[20:19] <Gentoo64> kapz, youd have to learn as you go, as every distro is different, there isn't a "standard" to compare ubuntu to
[20:19] <ikonia> meco: have you setup the website to host cgi ?
[20:19] <ikonia> meco: if you visit "http://localhost" do you get the default welcome page
[20:19] <meco> ikonia: Nope, and yes
[20:19] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, and where should i look for this
[20:19] <v-himanshu> i mean for my problem
[20:19] <Gentoo64> meco, run sudo ss -l see if its listening
[20:20] <ikonia> meco: ok, then you know where you need to look
[20:20] <danols> can someone check if ubutnu has freeswitch ? pakcage?
[20:20] <Gentoo64> !freeswitch
[20:20] <Gentoo64> :s
[20:20] <fzlamn> v-himanshu: i need to sleep, it 4am at my place. you can keep going ask and maybe someone have a better solution for you. i'm sorry friend.
[20:21] <ikonia> !info freeswitch
[20:21] <ikonia> there you go
[20:21] <meco> Gentoo64: What should I be looking for in that output?
[20:21] <v-himanshu> fzlamn, thanks. that's ok
[20:21] <danols> hmm
[20:22] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: have you tried setting up a static wifi connection?
[20:22] <meco> ikonia: you mean, looking for a tutorial on enabling the web server to host cgi?
[20:22] <porkchop85> Does anyone here have any experence with PXE
[20:22] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, no sir
[20:22] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: couldn't hurt. You might be having DHCP issues
[20:23] <kapz> Gentoo64: facepalm at you! you didn't even guide me to a answer!
[20:23] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, can you give some pointers please
[20:23] <ikonia> meco: install the cfi modules, make sure the site has cgi enable and a cgi-root set, dump the script in, and you're done
[20:23] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: you'll need to find out the network address of your router
[20:23] <meco> ikonia: haha...  Now, does it need to be copied somewhere else, like in /var/www/?
[20:25] <ikonia> kapz: iif you want to learn ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <Gentoo64> so you want to know what changes ubuntu has, comapred to what distro... ?
[20:26] <Gentoo64> liek i said
[20:26] <ikonia> meco it needs to be whereever you have set the cgi root for your website
[20:26] <Gentoo64> theres no "standard" distro
[20:26] <ikonia> meco: you need to make sure cgi modules are enabled
[20:26] <kapz> Then y answer my Q in a Generic way, when i was specific!
[20:26] <GleasonGrails> If a window gets stuck under the top panel in unity is there anyway to hide the top panel to get to it
[20:26] <GleasonGrails> short of installing gnome
[20:26] <ikonia> kapz: you have the answer, lets move on
[20:26] <kapz> thanks ikonia
[20:27] <meco> ikonia: OK, then the next step I don't know about is how to enable cgi, and then to set the cgi-root.
[20:27] <sskalnik> aptitude equivalent of apt-get sources?
[20:27] <ikonia> meco: there should be a package called somehing like "mod-cgi", then the cgi root is set in the apache sites config file (I'm assuming you are using the default site)
[20:27] <GleasonGrails> nm got it
[20:27] <kapz> WoW....
[20:28] <GleasonGrails> right click on the edge and I can use move
[20:28] <meco> ikonia: 'sudo apt-get install mod-cgi'?
[20:28] <ikonia> meco search for it
[20:28] <meco> ok
[20:28] <sskalnik> nvm, looks like "aptitude download" is what I want
[20:30] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, you have to teach me sth now. My local ip is <IP_ADDRESS>... IS that what you meant by router ip? I don't think so
[20:31] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: no, that's your machine's network address.
[20:31] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: are you on linux right now?
[20:31] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:31] <DinoMuffin> type in ifconfig
[20:32] <v-himanshu> and
[20:32] <DinoMuffin> tell me your netmask
[20:32] <DinoMuffin> or "Mask"
[20:33] <v-himanshu> Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:33] <DinoMuffin> then your router address is likely <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:33] <Gentoo64> what?
[20:33] <Gentoo64> that netmask is normal
[20:33] <DinoMuffin> what
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> his current IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> theerfor his network is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:34] <v-himanshu> you mean last digit is 0/1 and starting three numbers are same as local ip?
[20:34] <meco> ikonia I don't have mod-cgi in my files. What else could that name be?
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> ok
[20:34] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: 192.168.122.* is your current network
[20:34] <bob___> <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[20:35] <ikonia> meco: it maybe built into the webserver now without the need for a module
[20:35] <DinoMuffin> so you need to enter into your netconfig the static IP that you want for your local machine, the netmask, and the gateway
[20:35] <meco> ikonia: Then it's onto establishing where cgi-root is?
[20:36] <Aegir> Aegir (has quit)
[20:36] <meco> Or rahter, where the apache config file is located?
[20:36] <ikonia> meco: have you actually read how to set apache up on ubuntu ?
[20:37] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, and can I use _any_ static ip here...?
[20:37] <meco> ikonia: No, not at all. I haven't had any use for it before.
[20:37] <ikonia> meco: ok - you need to do that
[20:37] <ikonia> meco: https://help.ubuntu.com - look under the server section
[20:37] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: anything within <IP_ADDRESS>-254
[20:37] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, oh i see
[20:37] <hyppias> which filesystem should I use on a debian disk, so I can access the files from Windows?
[20:38] <hyppias> ubuntu that is
[20:38] <meco> ikonia: Wouldn't it be sufficient to do the things we've already set out to do?
[20:38] <DinoMuffin> hyppias: you're accessing it from ubuntu or windows?
[20:38] <Gentoo64> hyppias, from a network or the actual disk?
[20:38] <hyppias> want to read them from Win7
[20:38] <ikonia> meco: no, you're using a technology that you've never set up and have no idea how to setup, reading the basics of setting it up is a must
[20:38] <hyppias> actual disk
[20:38] <Gentoo64> Hyperbyte, ext4 and use ext2read in read only mode on windows
[20:38] <ikonia> meco: if you don't even know where the config file is, then you need to read the very basics just to see it's layout at least
[20:39] <Gentoo64> hyppias, ^
[20:39] <useful__idiot> yeah httpd.conf is a beast ifyou dont read the documentation
[20:40] <meco> ikonia: OK, but I'm sure you or somebody knows there the config for apache is usually located, so it'd be nice to simply have that information.
[20:40] <useful__idiot> does ubuntu use the same a2ensite etc scripts for httpd from debian?
[20:42] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, so, tried to set up a static wireless connection, but it doesn't connected
[20:42] <MarioFinutz> a
[20:42] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: can you tell me what you entered for static IP, netmask, and gateway?
[20:43] <meco> ikonia: Now I know I have some kind of web server running, so I guess I needn't go to the section on installing apache2? Or do I?
[20:43] <v-himanshu> sure: static ip <IP_ADDRESS>; netmask: <IP_ADDRESS>; gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:43] <DinoMuffin> ok
[20:44] <ikonia> meco: I know exactly where it is, but if you want spoon feeding I am not your man, I'll spoon feed people who need it, not people who can't be bothered to read excellent documentation
[20:44] <_meberhart> there is a great guide for setting up LAMP on howtoforge
[20:44] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: what security protocols is your router running?
[20:44] <ikonia> meco: I would read the start to end setup of apache
[20:44] <ikonia> meco: make sure it matches what you've done
[20:44] <meco> ikonia: I understand... I'm kinda challenged in that respect, but I'll make an effort now.
[20:44] <v-himanshu> WPA2
[20:45] <ikonia> meco: good for you
[20:45] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: and you're sure you've entered the passphrase correcly?
[20:45] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:45] <DinoMuffin> hm
[20:45] <v-himanshu> the lan used the same
[20:45] <v-himanshu> sorry
[20:45] <DinoMuffin> ?
[20:45] <v-himanshu> but yes, the password is same
[20:45] <meco> ikonia: Well, the funny thing is I haven't done anything to set up a web server, still I get response when browsing localhost. How can that be?
[20:45] <v-himanshu> i mean password is correct
[20:45] <ikonia> meco: then it's not setup, it's just default
[20:46] <meco> Ah... OK!
[20:47] <meco> Since thereæs apache2, is there also apache1 or apache plain?
[20:47] <ikonia> meco: apache 1 is dead
[20:47] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: sounds like it might be a driver issue
[20:47] <meco> ikonia: Why? What heppened? (not that it matters, just wondrin')
[20:48] <ikonia> meco: new better/updated version came out, no point maintaining the old
[20:48] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: have any other wifi computers been able to connect to that ap?
[20:48] <DinoMuffin> or any wifi device?
[20:48] <meco> ikonia: Sure, but I just figured that to be a bit strange since it came from the same place as the original...
[20:48] <v-himanshu> yes
[20:49] <DinoMuffin> oh but you said it didn't work at uni either, nevermind
[20:49] <v-himanshu> i have a mac and its working like a charm
[20:49] <v-himanshu> yeah
[20:49] <v-himanshu> you mean issue is with the driver: iwlagn
[20:49] <ikonia> meco it didn't
[20:49] <ikonia> meco: it's a new codebase
[20:50] <meco> ikonia: Also, I tried installing apache2 and it didn't since it's already installed, it says. But again, I didn't do it! Is that odd? Nobody else are likely to have been done it either...
[20:50]  * MarioFinutz care e roman
[20:50] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: well if it was working before and has just suddenly stopped wroking, it sounds like it's either a driver issue or the hardware is having issues
[20:51] <ikonia> meco you can only intall it once, so if you installed it earlier, it's already there
[20:51] <meco> ikonia: I didn't install it earlier, unless it installed itself automatically with ubuntu.
[20:52] <meco> btw I'm using oneiric
[20:52] <ikonia> meco: depends what profile you selected at install time, it can install it
[20:52] <pepejoe> hello there. I am using LiveUsb to boot. After a restart, it wont boot from the usb stick, unless I plug it out and in again. Any solutions to that?
[20:53] <DinoMuffin> v-himanshu: only other thing i can think of that could cause that is mac address filtering on your router
[20:53] <meco> ikonia: The installation guide doesn't say where apache2.conf us located so I'm using find to find out...
[20:54] <DinoMuffin> which is pointless, so it should be turned off anyways
[20:54] <v-himanshu> hmm
[20:54] <v-himanshu> so, do i have to re-install the driver? will that help
[20:54] <DinoMuffin> it may
[20:54] <v-himanshu> and by this i have to reinstall the driver iwlagn
[20:55] <meco> ikonia: I thought you were female because the -a suffix
[20:55] <ikonia> meco: don't worry
[20:56] <ikonia> meco: before you start looking for apache2.conf - keep reading and you'll see that's not what you want
[20:57] <meco> (I'm never worried. Sometimes I'm concerned. I learned today that using the word 'worry' subliminally influences you in an unwanted way...)
[20:57] <meco> ok..
[20:57] <mibr001> acer aspire 5520 running ubuntu 10.10  is overheating how do i raise min fan speed?
[20:58] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin: lsmod says that the driver is indeed loaded
[20:58] <v-himanshu> iwlagn                123060  0
[20:58] <v-himanshu> iwlcore               125250  1 iwlagn
[21:00] <v-himanshu> DinoMuffin, i don't think either that there is mac address filtring on the router as i am using the wired connection from the same router
[21:00] <stealth_creation> I have a question about sudo, and the ufw firewall. What is the point in having a password, if it onnly ever asks for the password for the account wanting the privileges. I have read that they say this is a secure way of doing things, but if someone has the password for the account, then theoretically they can do what they want through the sudo command or setup whatever rules for the firewall, or am I wrong?  Is there a better
[21:00] <stealth_creation>  way of going about this? A way to set a password that isn't the same as your account?
[21:01] <acerimmer> stealth_creation: I've got an admin account for the sudo stuff and a regular user account for daily use.
[21:01] <v-himanshu> hmm... lunch time... brb and will look more into it. have to make it working by tomorrow morning
[21:01] <meco> ikonia: Now, I've read about all the different files amd dirs. I haven't found any actionable info there. Now I'm at the Basic Settings section. Let me know if I missed something, please!
[21:01] <stealth_creation> but I thought that your admin account was the root account, I had something similar when I was still running Windows.
[21:02] <Slart> stealth_creation: I think the idea is that you can define what a certain person/account can do.. that way they only have to input their own password to be able to do the "admin" stuff they have been pre-cleared for
[21:02] <floorlava> I've installed the HUD ppa. How do I invoke it?
[21:02] <ikonia> meco: ok, so what file contains the config for your site
[21:02] <mibr001> can someone tell me how to raise min fan speed with ubuntu 10.10 on a acer aspire 5520 laptop?
[21:02] <stealth_creation> ok, thanks.
[21:03] <guntbert> floorlava: I guess you want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:03] <Slart> stealth_creation: if you've got a root account (which is often the other way of doing things) it's all or nothing.. you either give complete control or nothing at all.. and you can't tell which account did what.. sudo keeps logs about who does what
[21:03] <stealth_creation> have you tried cleaning the fan?
[21:03] <meco> ikonia: I believe that to be /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[21:03] <floorlava> guntbert, thanks.
[21:03] <ikonia> meco: no, you've not read the documentation
[21:03] <ikonia> meco: that is for global configs, not each site
[21:03] <guntbert> !sudo | stealth_creation time for a little reading :)
[21:03] <stealth_creation> I was thinking that it logged what users did what when the sudo command was run
[21:03] <Slart> stealth_creation: the "enter your password" is just to keep people walking past your unlocked computer from doing bad things
[21:04] <guntbert> stealth_creation: that too
[21:04] <stealth_creation> thanks for the reading. waiting to run into work, so this will help out.
[21:04] <mibr001> hello?
[21:05] <dlentz> mibr001, have you dusted/cleaned it lately? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1175054
[21:05] <mibr001> yes
[21:06] <mibr001> the fan does not idle its either full 255 or 0 off
[21:06] <mibr001> kicks in at 59 and out at 46
[21:07] <meco> ikonia:  /etc/apache2/httpd.conf would be my next GUESS, and I'm sorry, I have to guess, because I don't find that any of the files mentioned refers to site configuration in those terms.
[21:08] <mibr001> if it reaches 60 the whole machine dies instantly
[21:09] <lwizardl> hello
[21:09] <mibr001> hi
[21:09] <lwizardl> How do i install the new firefox from the tar file on ubuntu 10.04 lts
[21:09] <drdw> Hiya folks.
[21:10] <mcphail> mibr001: is your BIOS up to date?
[21:10] <rexor> lwizardl, just download form mozzila website
[21:10] <acerimmer> !source|lwizard
[21:10] <drdw> Question about 11.10 installation... during the installation process, what text-based utilities exist for partitioning?  I didn't see the usual fdisk , gdisk or parted...
[21:10] <rexor> lwizardl, and unpack
[21:10] <meco> lwizardl: sudo gksu file, but I'm guessing...
[21:10] <lwizardl> rexbron_, did that but it is a .bz.tar file and I don't see a update or configure in the folder
[21:11] <osmosis> any way to fix unity so that the application menus on the top bar are not all screwed up on my second monitor?
[21:11] <drdw> I'm trying to track down incredibly slow IO during installation.  Can't even complete the installation process it's takings o long.  This is on 3TB drives.
[21:11] <osmosis> I cant even access the application bar in a usable way unless I move the app over to my first monitor.
[21:11] <mcphail> lwizardl: there is a firefox ppa for LTS which makes keeping up-to-date easier
[21:12] <drdw> Wanted to start and make sure secrots were aligned and all that fun stuff, but don't seem to be ablve to find "fdisk"
[21:12] <lwizardl> mcphail, well firefox 10 was just released today so I wan't sure if the ubuntu branded one would already be updated or not
[21:12] <zykotick9> drdw: i don't think fdisk supports drives that large
[21:13] <mcphail> lwizardl: usually comes in a day or so. Much less pain than keeping up with the tarballs
[21:13] <Slart> drdw: I think you can create your partitions before running the installation.. and just tell the installer what you want to use each partition for
[21:13] <drdw> zykotick9: i was fairly sure that newer versions of disk would support it.. regardless, the tool isn't there.
[21:13] <Slart> drdw: that way you can run any live cd you want and use that to do aligment and whatever
[21:13] <lwizardl> mcphail, yeah but I may come across another application later without apt-get features and still need to know how to do it
[21:13] <drdw> Slart: So, is that a way of saying that the Ubuntu 11.10 server installer does not have any tools for performing such tasks?
[21:14] <drdw> zykotick9: Just trying to see what th eoptions are... =)
[21:14] <Slart> drdw: at the moment I'm resizing a 2TB drive to get it aligned correctly.. only 7 hours to go
[21:14] <drdw> Slart: Ouch!
[21:14] <Trevor69420> 7 hours... that sux
[21:15] <drdw> Slart: So going through that pain, did you have bad performance that prompted you to do that?
[21:15] <Slart> drdw: I'm saying that I don't know what the installer uses to partition drives and I don't know if you can get to a shell during the install procedure
[21:15] <mcphail> lwizardl: that is not a road you want to go down if you can avoid it. Each installation process is bespoke - learning one will not help you with the others. Always use the package manager when possible
[21:15] <Slart> drdw: well.. I'm not entirely sure.. but it was kind of slow, yes. Hopefully it will get a bit better
[21:15] <drdw> Slart: ah, gotcha.  the shell remains, alt+f2.
[21:15] <lwizardl> where does ubuntu store the firefox folder ?
[21:15] <drdw> This is orders of magnitude slower than expectations... like.. 100KB / sec, instead of MB.
[21:16] <drdw> Same problem on both the onboard contrtoller and the raid card.
[21:16] <drdw> yeargh.
[21:16] <Slart> drdw: in normal ubuntu, yes.. CTRL+ALT+F[1-6] will get you a shell.. not sure if that is available during the install though
[21:16] <mibr001> i'm trying to use what it says here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/fancontrol.8.html to change minpwm to a value that'll keep it cool and quiet also i'd like to lower max temp
[21:16] <Slart> drdw: you need the CTRL key if you want to do it from gnome
[21:16] <acerimmer> lwizardl: /home .mozilla
[21:16] <drdw> Slart: That's correct.  I was stating that it does work during the installer, which for servers is text based.. no CTRL necessary.
[21:17] <psychoshield> how do i allow a longer login time on ssh?
[21:17] <Slart> drdw: ah.. my bad then
[21:17] <mcphail> lwizardl: it doesn't store the folder anywhere. It installs the binary in /usr/bin/ etc...
[21:17] <Trevor69420> psychoshield i think there's a timeout option in the ssh config
[21:17] <lwizardl> acerimmer, looks like mine is not there but instead /usr/lib/firefox-9.0.1
[21:17] <drdw> Slart: No worries.  I'll go find some newish live CD to partition with I guess.
[21:17] <drdw> Slart: ty for the perspective.
[21:17] <K350> are you guys aware of any openbox irc channel?
[21:17] <Slart> drdw: you're welcome
[21:18] <amaurea> Hi! After doing a distupgrade to 11.10, one of the keys on my keyboard (the one I use for tilde, charet and umlaut) no longer does anything. How can I fix this?
[21:18] <acerimmer> lwizardl: the recommendation to wait for the ff to hit the official ubuntu repo's is a valid one
[21:18] <stealth_creation> mibr001: I have a link that may be of some use to you. I don't however know how to properly copy and paste into this IRC room.
[21:18] <psychoshield> know the name of it?
[21:18] <stealth_creation> can I pm it to you to peruse?
[21:20] <dewar> Hi, i wonder if anyone can help me, i would like to control the parrell port directly to some electronics, whats the best way to do that?
[21:21] <module000> dewar: you can treat LPT like a file descriptor if are writing a script to control something. what are you working with?
[21:21] <o_> anyone know what the occupy irc server is? or anonymous?
[21:21] <psychoshield> is it connecttimeout?
[21:21] <lwizardl> ok nevermind I got it working
[21:21] <dewar> i have kubuntu on my machine, ive seen that bash can access
[21:22] <mibr001> stealth_creation: how might i find it without you copy/pasteing it?
[21:22] <amaurea> additionally, I can't make any composite symbols either, like e with an accent
[21:22] <calwig> Hi Im trying to scan from a c410a Photosmart Premium with Fax into Xsane
[21:22] <calwig> Ive been to #sane however they dont answer...
[21:22] <calwig> where can I get information on scanning/printing?
[21:23] <psychoshield> how do i allow a longer login time on ssh?
[21:24] <Slart> psychoshield: do you mean the time it takes to enter the password? or some other time?
[21:25] <psychoshield> idle time till it disconnects you from the ssh
[21:25] <Slart> psychoshield: you mean something like this? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/keep-your-linux-ssh-session-from-disconnecting/
[21:25] <goddard> anyone know what this does  ? http://pastebin.com/pvT7nXGX
[21:25] <shaneo> hey guys i recently updated from i386 to amd64 cause i upgrade my ram. Problem is apt is still fetching i386 and amd64 repos how do i get it to point to only the amd64
[21:26] <psychoshield> ya cause ill walk away come back and i get kicked out :(
[21:26] <acerimmer> shaneo: you need to edit your software sources
[21:26] <Slart> shaneo: ehm.. updated from i386 to amd64 ? I didn't think that was possible.. I'm pretty sure a reinstall is the recommended way to go
[21:26] <psychoshield> so just add ServerAlive?
[21:26] <zeshoem> how do I disable the firewall in Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:26] <psychoshield> ServerAliveInterval 60
[21:26] <acerimmer> shaneo: slart is right - reinstall is best
[21:27] <Slart> psychoshield: I haven't tried it myself so I wouldn't know.. but it's worth a try
[21:28] <zykotick9> shaneo: you can't really upgrade from i386 to amd64 without reinstalling.  The new multiarch feature will show :i386 and :amd64 for many packages regardless of what you do.
[21:28] <rbnswartz> I'm setting up a apache server and I was curious if I should put a site in /var/www or put it in the home directory (for easy ftp access) and then link to it via a symbolic link
[21:28] <meco> ikonia: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ?
[21:29] <stealth_creation> psychoshield: I googled ServerAlive, and it has corrected someone else's issue, the page I got to says that it keeps the connection even while idle.
[21:29] <psychoshield> k :)
[21:29] <psychoshield> about to add it
[21:29] <stealth_creation> they added the value of 5
[21:29] <zeshoem> How can I enable ssh server?
[21:30] <Trevor69420> lol
[21:30] <Trevor69420> first u need OpenSSH installed
[21:30] <alexGla> need a software for creating database and playing with queries. something similar like MS Access
[21:30] <mcphail> oh dear...
[21:30] <Trevor69420> that lol was meant for someone else sorry
[21:30] <rbnswartz> alexGla: have you tried open office base?
[21:30] <psychoshield> wish me luck :)
[21:31] <Trevor69420> zeshoem: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:31] <alexGla> rbnswartz, no. i think i don`t have it on ubuntu 10
[21:32] <zeshoem> Thanks Trevor69420
[21:33] <rbnswartz> alexGLA Install the libreoffice-base package
[21:34] <alexGla> rbnswartz, what about sql developer?
[21:37] <rbnswartz> alexGla, I'm fairly certain that base has sql support built in but if you want experience with a larger scale database you could set up a mysql server
[21:37] <manisabri> Hi ,why unity in 11.04 works smoother without ATI proprietary drivers?!
[21:38] <alexGla> rbnswartz, no, i need just for one of my assessed exercises on database class
[21:38] <alexGla> how can i install office base?
[21:38] <rbnswartz> alexGla search for libreoffice base in the softaware center
[21:39] <Lars_G> Is there a (semi) offitial repo out there for firefox newest (non beta. 10 in this case) for 11.10?
[21:40] <alexGla> rbnswartz, have found openOffice database
[21:40] <auronandace> !info firefox | Lars_G
[21:41] <Lars_G> auronandace: hmmm ok so we have an old-world-firefox close cycle? or is 10 too recent for being packaged yet?
[21:41] <auronandace> Lars_G: can't you wait till the repo gets updated to include 10?
[21:41] <rbnswartz> alexGla I would recommend Libreoffice base of Openoffice base but either will do
[21:41] <Lars_G> auronandace: Oh well I'll go with tar-gz versions. thanks
[21:42] <asif> hi all
[21:42] <asif> having problems at bootup
[21:42] <Lars_G> I hope I can find a way to make deb packages out of binaries. i don't want to compile firefox :P not on an atom
[21:42] <asif> failes to load gui
[21:42] <Lars_G> auronandace: thanks
[21:42] <asif> stays at command prompt asking for ligin credentials
[21:42] <asif> login*
[21:42] <pedro> how do i get a better perfomance in my Lubuntu?
[21:42] <asif> can anyone help please?
[21:42] <Trevor69420> ewww command prompt
[21:43] <auronandace> Lars_G: i didn't help much, but your welcome :)
[21:43] <Trevor69420> this aint no windows channel
[21:43] <asif> watever trevor
[21:43] <Lars_G> asif: Well first quick test, see if your Xorg loads. Login in console and run "startx" as your user. see if it loads/starts
[21:44] <kuhno_> asif: i once had this problem and found out that for some reason there was the 'rescue' parameter in the boot commend line
[21:44] <kuhno_> or somehing like that
[21:44] <Lars_G> auronandace: I found this, in case you wanna know http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/firefox-10-released/
[21:44] <meco> I'm unable to view http://localhost/cgi/smokeping.cgi. I'm trying to figure out what I need to do to make it work. smokeping.cgi is located in the cgi dir as specified in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, and the +ExecCGI is also set. Can anyone assist?
[21:44] <auronandace> Lars_G: i use chromium instead, thanks for the info though
[21:45] <Lars_G> auronandace: It's always better to know than to ignore :D I switch daily between ff and chrome
[21:45] <DinoMuffin> meco: isn't there an apache irc channel?
[21:45] <pedro> how do i configure my chromium for using it for bank's page?
[21:45] <asif> k, ill be back after another boot
[21:45] <asif> hopefully
[21:45] <asif> thanks all
[21:45] <Lars_G> meco: 2 things, a) better ask in #apache and b) you need to define a cgi handler for .cgi files, most probably
[21:45] <zykotick9> DinoMuffin: meco #httpd i believe is apache channel
[21:46] <Lars_G> asif: You're welcome, you can ignore me any time you wish
[21:46] <Lars_G> ah well
[21:46] <DinoMuffin> yeah
[21:46] <auronandace> pedro: banks page? what bank website? does it use java?
[21:46] <meco> I'll try #httpd
[21:46] <Lars_G> pedro: if it doesnt work, it's your bank's work to fix it, not yours
[21:46] <Lars_G> pedro: Unless it's a missing java like auronandace mentions
[21:46] <pedro> auronandace: yes it does