[08:19] <wizard> safer: just remember that xgl and beryl are extremely beta :-). expect lotsa breaks, lotsa bugs.
[08:19] <aldin> draeath, http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15746/
[08:19] <dougb> woops
[08:20] <Crazytom> jmega, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:20] <Tom47> !ask > sachrioja
[08:20] <muuhBDXi> how do i use ubuintu to track down some one online ?
[08:20] <yiga1> safer: the only time Beta has broken on me is moving from a virtual terminal back and forth to GNOME
[08:20] <wizard> !ask @ sachrioja
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask @ sachrioja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <sachrioja> im new on ubuntu, and iwant to know how to configure mi midi soundcard
[08:20] <draeath> aldin, whats your hostname and domain name?
[08:20] <draeath> aldin, do you have one?
[08:20] <Nubbie> safer: you won't generally expect many bugs with beryl as long as your system is well enough equipped to run it. but please ask for help with beryl in #ubuntu-xgl.
[08:20] <pcollins> safer, how are you using beryl in ubuntu? searching for beryl in apt returns nothing for me.
[08:21] <yiga1> safer: but then it broke bad and even Ctrl+b+PrtScrn didn't do anything
[08:21] <wizard> sachrioja: first step is to make sure its compatible
[08:21] <aldin> draeath, nope perhaps... do u cound dyndns?
[08:21] <draeath> pcollins, there is stuff on the wiki... a third party repo
[08:21] <thetechgeek> how do i resize a fat-32 type partition?
[08:21] <safer> I mean ---- when I hold down the wheel and rotate the cube
[08:21] <Nubbie> wizard: i don't think beryl is beta anymore... they've had a major release i believe.
[08:21] <sachrioja> ok, i have audio sound
[08:21] <safer> I want it to not be so close-up
[08:21] <yiga1> thetechgeek: use gparted
[08:21] <Timeline> Can anyone help me with clamav? Apt-get is not able to find it.
[08:21] <wizard> Nubbie: oh.. well then it just runs like butt for me  lol
[08:21] <draeath> aldin, hmm... I think the issue is that its trying to talk to you with one IP while you are communicating with another.
[08:21] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: with gparted. make sure it's not mounted and that you have space around it.
[08:21] <sachrioja> but i cant play any midi
[08:21] <yiga1> thetechgeek: it looks nice and does the job done
[08:22] <Nubbie> !midi > sachrioja
[08:22] <draeath> aldin, as far as what the issue is or how to fix it... cant say Ive ever run FTP
[08:22] <draeath> !midi > draeath
[08:22] <Madpilot> Timeline, it's in the Universe repo - do you have that enabled?
[08:22] <thetechgeek> gparted says it cant
[08:22] <wizard> Nubbie: its still a 0.x.x relesae 0.o
[08:22] <draeath> good o'le timidity
[08:22] <aldin> check this ftp://kapetano.dyndns.org
[08:22] <yiga1> thetechgeek: you have to umount the partition
[08:22] <wizard> Nubbie: iunno if i'd call that a final version yet.
[08:22] <aldin> draeath, samo problem
[08:22] <aldin> should i disable dyndns in router?
[08:22] <muuhBDXi> how do i make a script that parses the ubuntu support foruns for question and randomlly posts them in irc ?
[08:22] <Timeline> Madpilot: I'm on the live CD, how can I find out?
[08:22] <draeath> aldin, no, that isnt the issue
[08:22] <yiga1> techgeek:what partition is it?
[08:22] <thetechgeek> yigal: ???
[08:23] <Nubbie> wizard: is that so... but consider banshee.... 0.12.1 the major release is version 12.
[08:23] <yiga1> yes?
[08:23] <muuhBDXi> shpuld be easy
[08:23] <Madpilot> muuhBDXi, go away.  WHen I start uo ubuntu I need to unplug then plug the bluetooth dongle back in. It's odd because the keyboard and mouse work for a short while, but then stop. Got any ideas?
[08:24] <wizard> !ops
[08:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda or mneptok
[08:24] <yiga1> thetechgeek: press Alt+F2
[08:24] <Nubbie> thankyou.
[08:24] <wizard> ohh woopsy.
[08:24] <Madpilot> wizard, way ahead of you. :)
[08:24] <wizard> Madpilot: sorryyyy :$
[08:24] <thetechgeek> ok...
[08:24] <aldin> draeath, could u pls connect, ls/dir and make one more dir on this 'ftp kapetano.dyndns.org'
[08:24] <draeath> aldin, drwxr-xr-x   2 ftp      ftp          4096 Apr 15 06:13 thanksdraeth
[08:24] <Nubbie> madpilot: where were you 15 minutes ago :|
[08:25] <draeath> aldin, 257 "/welcome-aldin" - Directory successfully created
[08:25] <Madpilot> Nubbie, giving him enough rope.
[08:25] <yiga1> thetechgeek: type gnome-terminal into the dialogue
[08:25] <Nubbie> madpilot: bleahgh...
[08:25] <aldin> draeath, thx it is working well then..
[08:25] <yiga1> thetechgeek:"gnome-terminal" and then press return
[08:25] <Nubbie> madpilot: like 10 warnings?
[08:25] <SteamUser> hey using wine 9.35 and launching steam I get "fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not supported - XRENDER headers were missing at compile time" and my fonts don't show.  Any help?
[08:25] <aldin> hmm
[08:25] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: wow, you must have been feeling generous...
[08:25] <thetechgeek> yes, yes
[08:25] <wizard> Hobbsee: ^.^ lol
[08:25] <draeath> speaking of rope... my coworker made a noose out of cat5 and hung his master shake plush... he even made a cardboard gallows.
[08:25] <Nubbie> madpilot: he was offtopic, insulting, and not even using ubuntu.
[08:25] <Madpilot> Nubbie, I gave him two, then asked him to leave. Like I said, enough rope.
[08:26] <Timeline> Madpilot: All I see is software properties under admin.
[08:26] <SteamUser> are bans here perm?
[08:26] <Nubbie> draeath: master shake is king.
[08:26] <wizard> SteamUser: depends on the offender usually.
[08:26] <aldin> draeath, tracepath-> http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/15748/
[08:26] <SteamUser> he gets?
[08:26] <yiga1> thetechgeek: what name does gparted give to the partition you want to shrink?
[08:26] <Nubbie> madpilot: i'm not second guessing you, i'm just saying if i had ops power he would've been gone at least 10 minutes ago :l
[08:26] <Madpilot> SteamUser, first ban is 24hrs, 2nd 1 week, 3rd perm.
[08:26] <SteamUser> lol my first ban here was 1 month
[08:26] <yiga1> thetechgeek: do you know?
[08:26] <draeath> aldin, hmm, so its not leaving your machine (thats normal)
[08:26] <SteamUser> for saying the s word
[08:27] <wizard> Madpilot: unless of course you are able to talk calmly and rationally to an op and come to even terms about conduct
[08:27] <aldin> draeath, i need to take breakfast now see u later (i hope)
[08:27] <wizard> Madpilot: as I've had to do before.
[08:27] <draeath> SteamUser, not sure I have ever been banned
[08:27] <Nubbie> wow if i got banned for any time i've sworn i would've been perm banned a year ago.
[08:27] <Crazytom> how would i find out how to get unbanned from winehq?  in my defense i was defending ubuntu users
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, bed time for me (gota get up for work in like 6 hours)
[08:27] <aldin> aldin, i aam in Europe (Bosnia)
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, FL, USA
[08:27] <draeath> nice to meet you :D
[08:27] <Hobbsee> Crazytom: ask those ops.  we dont have ops there
[08:27] <aldin> draeath, nevermind thanks a lot for helping me though
[08:27] <Crazytom> i can't get in, i'm banned there
[08:27] <thetechgeek> wait- im in the terminal
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, no problem
[08:27] <draeath> aldin, FYI
[08:27] <aldin> draeath, see u next time perhaps
[08:27] <yiga1> thetechgeek: r u there?
[08:28] <draeath> aldin, long shot but try in #security - bright folks there
[08:28] <Nubbie> crazytom: thats up to them. winehq has nothing to do with #ubuntu.
[08:28] <thetechgeek> how do i get to gparted
[08:28] <aldin> draeath, ok
[08:28] <wizard> thetechgeek: on live cd?
[08:28] <thetechgeek> you said terminal
[08:28] <thetechgeek> yes
[08:28] <Hobbsee> Crazytom: privmsg them
[08:28] <yiga1> thetechgeek: sudo aptitude install gparted
[08:28] <Crazytom> i know it's offtopic i was just wondering if anyone here knew.  thanks anyway
[08:28] <yiga1> thetechgeek: that into the terminal - did the terminal open?
[08:28] <wizard> thetechgeek: system > administration > gnome partition manager
[08:28] <Crazytom> can you do that from one channel to another?
[08:28] <Nubbie> yiga1: gparted is installed by default...
[08:28] <thetechgeek> yes
[08:28] <draeath> Crazytom, no but I can ask for you...
[08:29] <yiga1> thetechgeek: ok then type " sudo gparted" instead
[08:29] <Crazytom> i would appreciate that
[08:29] <SteamUser> Crazytom defending ubuntu users?
[08:29] <wdr1_> how can i disable esd from starting?
[08:29] <crimsun> wizard: what question?
[08:29] <wdr1_> !esd
[08:29] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[08:29] <Crazytom> i could go into what was said if you want
[08:29] <thetechgeek> ok...
[08:29] <wdr1_> !alsa
[08:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:29] <wizard> crimsun: how come i don't have any tone (bass and trebble) controls? :-(
[08:29] <draeath> the less I know the better in this case, Crazytom
[08:29] <SteamUser> not needed
[08:29] <yiga1> thetechgeek: r u ok?
[08:29] <Crazytom> yeah
[08:30] <thetechgeek> i said im in
[08:30] <Nubbie> crazytom: it doesn't matter what you did to get banned, or what you did involving ubuntu users, but #ubuntu has nothing to do with winehq, and you need to work it out with them.
[08:30] <yiga1> thetechgeek: awesome
[08:30] <Crazytom> Nubbie, i realise that
[08:30] <crimsun> wizard: because they're not in the code.
[08:30] <draeath> Nubbie, well, he cant get in to find out, so he just went somewhere where he could find help :)
[08:30] <wizard> crimsun: no way to get them eh?
[08:30] <Nubbie> crazytom: so what do you want us to do?
[08:30] <draeath> Crazytom, waiting on a response
[08:30] <crimsun> wizard: not unless you update to the current code, no.
[08:30] <draeath> Nubbie, all he needed was a proxy to ask for him :P
[08:30] <yiga1> thetechgeek: now is it a flash disk or a hard drive how is the fat drive connected to the computer?
[08:30] <Crazytom> Nubbie, draeath is taking care of it
[08:30] <Nubbie> lol.
[08:30] <wizard> crimsun: well as we've discovered that quite doesn't work for me lol
[08:31] <wizard> crimsun: so i may just be ona bad boat
[08:31] <wizard> crimsun: it works now.. but not so good
[08:31] <robinlinth> Is it safe to remove totem-mozilla? I mean, it uninstalls ubuntu-desktop which causes problems with the upgrade to Feisty.
[08:31] <Nubbie> crazytom: i'm just curious, but what did you do to get banned?
[08:31] <Timeline> Madpilot: Got it, clamav is installing
[08:31] <Timeline> Madpilot: thanks
[08:31] <Nubbie> timeline: sorry i wasn't paying attention to help you with that, i apologize.
[08:31] <Madpilot> Timeline, glad you got it sorted - sorry, your question kind of got lost in the shuffle there!
[08:31] <dadan_x> i have a problem regarding installation of xubuntu. At certain moment when Xubuntu should start from the live cd my monitor starts to blink (as it would autost the screen resolution) then is stops at the default (and empty) blue screen of Xfce, i tryed to start also with ubuntu then the same thing happended just the color of the screen was ubuntu's light brown. computer: pIII 224 ram. Any ideas?
[08:32] <robinlinth> dadan_x, #xubuntu
[08:32] <dadan_x> yes
[08:32] <Nubbie> timeline: make sure your windows partition is mounted, and direct the scanner to the directory that it's mounted to. also i suggest you install freshclam, to make sure that the virus definitions are up to date.
[08:32] <dadan_x> but the same thin happens with ubuntu
[08:32] <wizard> robinlinth: he said it also happens in ubuntu
[08:32] <dadan_x> and in the xubuntu channel nobody answers
[08:32] <wizard> robinlinth: sooo the problem goes beyond xfce at this point
[08:32] <yiga1> dadan_x: you have a minimal comp. for ubuntu
[08:33] <draeath> whois Crazytom
[08:33] <wizard> dadan_x: have you let it sit for some time and seen if it progresses?
[08:33] <robinlinth> wizard, alright
[08:33] <yiga1> yigal: dadan_x can you swtich to a virtual terminal?
[08:33] <dadan_x> no progress
[08:33] <dadan_x> no
[08:33] <orbin> !ubuntu-desktop | robinlinth
[08:33] <ubotu> robinlinth: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[08:33] <Crazytom> Nubbie, check your privs
[08:33] <Crazytom> draeath, whois?
[08:33] <yiga1> dadan_x: are you installing or using the live cd?
[08:33] <Nubbie> crazytom: i'm following you.
[08:33] <thetechgeek> still trying to resize...
[08:34] <Nubbie> crazytom: i'm registered.
[08:34] <draeath> Crazytom, i was getting the hostname such if needed
[08:34] <yiga1> dadan_x: if you install you can use single user mode to work with X from the command line
[08:34] <orbin> kernel update broke my system.  how would i go about ficing this?  i've booted into an old kernel for now.
[08:34] <dadan_x> i tried with live cd, and after that with the alternate cd
[08:34] <thetechgeek> humph
[08:34] <yiga1> dadan_x: use alternative, install and use the terminal
[08:34] <Nubbie> orbin: you're one of the unlucky ones?
[08:34] <_ecto_> heh, I installed ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server, and I was surprised at how well that worked...
[08:34] <Nubbie> orbin: running feisty?
[08:34] <yiga1> dadan_x: I think it is a ram issue, although I don't your graphics card
[08:35] <yiga1> dadan_x: what is your graphics card?
[08:35] <Nubbie> orbin: if you're running feisty, the kernel issue has been resolved as far as i know. upgrade your system and reconfigure grub.
[08:35] <dadan_x> i think it has 64 ram
[08:35] <dadan_x> the graphics cars
[08:35] <yiga1> dadan_x: so its enough
[08:35] <dadan_x> so u suggest to try with another card?
[08:35] <thetechgeek> yigal: you there?
[08:35] <Crazytom> Nubbie, i've been using linux on and off for 5 or 6 years now but i don't know how to do alot of arguable simple stuff.  like recompile and i can never get that d^&n cp command to work right
[08:35] <yiga1> dadan_x: NO
[08:35] <orbin> Nubbie: no, i'm running edgy. the upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS>-11.37 borked it
[08:35] <yiga1> thetechgeek: ues
[08:35] <yiga1> thetechgeek:yes
[08:35] <thetechgeek> how long should this take?
[08:36] <wizard> yiga1: i've had it happen once before with what appeared to be just a bad cd-rom drive.
[08:36] <Timeline> Nubbie: How do i get freshclam to run?
[08:36] <yiga1> dadan_x: I suggest using alternative install then use single user mode
[08:36] <yiga1> thetechgeek: what are you trying to do?
[08:36] <dadan_x> yiga: and how do to that?
[08:36] <Nubbie> crazytom: as a desktop user you shouldn't have to know how.
[08:36] <yiga1> dadan_x: just install like you normally would
[08:36] <dadan_x> i'm newbie
[08:36] <TimonUbuntu> Wow, i didn't think there would be so many users in here :D
[08:36] <thetechgeek> resize the main ntfs partition by -5 gig
[08:37] <yiga1> dadan_x: when it restarts and you see grub there are 2 options either single user of the normal
[08:37] <Nubbie> Timeline: i'm not quite sure, as i don't need a virus scanner.
[08:37] <Nubbie> timeline: let me check for you.
[08:37] <draeath> Crazytom, no response...
[08:37] <yiga1> thetechgeek: great so that should be probably /dev/hda
[08:37] <rellik> is there a way to scroll up in screen?
[08:37] <thetechgeek> ahh, never mind, It worked omg!!!!
[08:37] <dadan_x> yiga1: but it does not even restart
[08:37] <Adimanuk> hello?
[08:37] <Nubbie> timeline: try sudo freshclam, i think that's all you need.
[08:37] <yiga1> thetechgeek: awesome
[08:38] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: you expected it not to? :l
[08:38] <yiga1> dadan_x: you want to install without graphics
[08:38] <navreet> anyone know how I can have gaim's icon flash when someone sends me an IM?
[08:38] <navreet> just like gaim
[08:38] <yiga1> dadan_x: you have tried in non-graphical mode?
[08:38] <thetechgeek> the last 4 times i tried it it didnt!!!
[08:38] <wizard> navreet: right click the icon tell it flash on new message
[08:38] <dadan_x> yes
[08:38] <yiga1> thetechgeek: its working now ?
[08:38] <dadan_x> the it sais that teh cd is not good
[08:38] <Nubbie> navreet: yes i believe it is in a plugin.
[08:38] <mafu> Does anybody know of a good feed reader for Gnome?
[08:38] <thetechgeek> yup tyvm!
[08:38] <thetechgeek> ttyl
[08:39] <dadan_x> but it's good, at the begining i checked it!
[08:39] <Nubbie> navreet: i have my gaim doing that, i just can't remember how.
[08:39] <draeath> Crazytom, if you cant get to them try posting in http://groups.google.com/group/comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine/topics
[08:39] <wizard> navreet: or if you're on an older version the plugin needs to be used
[08:39] <draeath> Crazytom, thats the official 'forum'
[08:39] <wizard> Nubbie: in beta 6 its just by right clicking
[08:39] <TimonUbuntu> To scroll up shift-pgup
[08:39] <yiga1> dadan_x: I am sorry I don't have enough information
[08:39] <yiga1> thetechgeek: how is it going
[08:39] <wizard> navreet: okay here we go
[08:39] <dadan_x> yes i see
[08:39] <Nubbie> navreet: are you running feisty?
[08:39] <dadan_x> so i'll try with nongraphical mode
[08:39] <dadan_x> once again
[08:39] <wizard> go to tools > plugins and scrool to > system tray icon. Click configure and the option is there
[08:40] <yiga1> dadan_x: I would try xubunu, they are used to dealing with a minimal set up like the one u have
[08:40] <yiga1> dadan_x: #xubuntu
[08:40] <dadan_x> thanx
[08:40] <jason_> hey, i just started using Ubuntu. Can someone help get my Audio to work?
[08:40] <yiga1> jason_: are you using GNOME?
[08:40] <Nubbie> yiga1: he's tried, but #xubuntu isn't very active.
[08:40] <yiga1> jason_: of course you are :)
[08:41] <Nubbie> jason_: just ask the question.
[08:41] <jason_> no im not using it
[08:41] <jason_> im using kubuntu
[08:41] <wizard> Nubbie: not many things are very active on xfce :-P
[08:41] <yiga1> jason_: the top right corner should have a sound icon in the gnome-panel yes?
[08:41] <Nubbie> wizard: shhh! they might be offended.
[08:41] <jason_> yes
[08:41] <yiga1> Nubble: thanks, too bad
[08:41] <wizard> Nubbie: it tried to kill me once, so i don't get along with it well lol
[08:42] <jason_> yigal, how do i whisper in irc?
[08:42] <Geoffrey2> is there anyone in here that can walk me through using mke2fs?
[08:42] <yiga1> jason_: ok I want you to click with you right mouse button and select "open volume control"
[08:42] <gryph76> has anyone here tried doing much networking with feisty? specifically getting it set up so that shared folders can be accessed over the network at a reasonable speed?
[08:42] <yiga1> jason_: I am sorry I am not so used to irc either?
[08:42] <Nubbie> wizard: personally i prefer either a really rich environment, or a really basic environment, xfce being in the middle just doesn't make sense.
[08:42] <wizard> i think he said hes on kde guys
[08:42] <TimonUbuntu> Can anybody please recommend a good firewall?
[08:43] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, man iptables
[08:43] <scottam> geoffrey2: what are you trying to do?
[08:43] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, built-in
[08:43] <TimonUbuntu> cheers
[08:43] <wizard> jason_: you're on kde right?
[08:43] <gryph76> right now I don't care if it's done with smb or nfs, but the first would be easier as there are windows pc's on my home network
[08:43] <yiga1> Nubbie: I totally agree about the window manager I use dwm or GNOME
[08:43] <jason_> yeah, yigal let me register IRC so i can whisper
[08:43] <jason_> brb
[08:43] <musya> whats a good program for radios online or video radios? like winamp
[08:43] <yiga1> jason_: great
[08:43] <navreet> Nubbie, no
[08:44] <navreet> wizard, it is configured correctly... or seems to be, it still doesn't blink
[08:44] <budluva> musya: i belive you can use xmms
[08:44] <Nubbie> navreet: then you probably aren't running gaim 2.00beta6. it's in the plugins somewhere, just dig around.
[08:44] <Spee_Der> musya, try xmms
[08:44] <wizard> navreet: is the chat window in focus? cos it wont of it is
[08:44] <Adimanuk> I fixed it, I just turned off the bluetooth management, for anybody interested :)
[08:44] <Geoffrey2> scottam, I've got an old laptop I'm trying to install Linux onto...the instructions say I'm supposed to use fdisk and mke2fs to create a linux partition, mount the partition at /hd, then run the installation program
[08:44] <navreet> Nubbie, yeah, i found it
[08:44] <navreet> wizard, no it's not
[08:44] <wizard> odd. you can always try to upgrade to the latest beta
[08:45] <Nubbie> navreet: k i guess you solved your own problem then :) if only more people were like you :D
[08:45] <yiga1> musya: try amarok you will like it
[08:45] <wizard> that ones on the house too :-P
[08:45] <navreet> Nubbie, er... no, I didn't solve it... wiwzard helped me find the option (which is configured correctly, but doesn't work)
[08:45] <Nubbie> beta6 is much more polished IMO. especially with regards to buddy pictures etc.
[08:45] <scottam> geoffrey2: so are you asking what command to use to format a partition ext3, or something else?
[08:46] <wizard> navreet: i'd upgrade to beta 6 and see if its fixed there
[08:46] <budluva> anyone here familiar with tovid?
[08:46] <yiga1> who uses fdisk to partition there drives?
[08:46] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , what sort of set up does iptables have as default? does it filter troublesome/high risk ports by default?
[08:46] <wizard> the version of gaim that shipped with ubuntu out of teh box was an interesting one... way too early for a beta in my humble.
[08:46] <Nubbie> navreet: oh my bad. update to the latest gaim. it will be available right clicking the notification icon, just as wizard stated.
[08:46] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, completely open by default
[08:46] <idnz01> hi i am having some trouble getting python to work with apache under ubuntu
[08:46] <navreet> Nubbie, can I easily do it with edgy?
[08:46] <yiga1> on the issue of irc clients does anyone have a command line client they use?
[08:46] <TimonUbuntu> draeath thanks mate. i'm reading the man pages now
[08:46] <idnz01> i follow the guid here: http://robrohan.com/2006/10/01/howto-setup-python-for-web-development-on-ubuntu/
[08:47] <wizard> navreet: you'll likely need to add a repo to your sources.lst
[08:47] <Geoffrey2> well, I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly at all....I use fdisk to create a partition, use mke2fs to, I believe, format it as an ext2...but when I go back into fdisk to look at it, fdisk complains there are no partitions....
[08:47] <idnz01> but whenever I go to one of my python pages it just opens up the script in my notepad editor, it doesnt execute it
[08:47] <yiga1> idnz01: that sounds really cool
[08:47] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html
[08:47] <TimonUbuntu> my gaim won't even send messages. I can recieve messages but nobody can recieve mine
[08:47] <navreet> wizard, nm, i found the message notification plugin... thnx Nubbie! =]
[08:47] <navreet> wizard, that's what I needed
[08:47] <wizard> variant: http://my.opera.com/pingouin_man/blog/2007/01/21/gaim-2-0-beta-6-for-ubuntu-6-10-edgy-ef
[08:47] <wizard> navreet: oh okay
[08:47] <TimonUbuntu> draeath Thanks, checking it out now
[08:47] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, much better than what I could do. I actually don't have firewalls inside my network
[08:48] <jason_> can someone help me register to irc?
[08:48] <wizard> navreet: the latest beta is still much nicer though if u wanna up anyway
[08:48] <jasonmarcell> My ubuntu will no longer login and I have x-session-manager: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot read file data: Invalid argument
[08:48] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, wait, that doc is old
[08:48] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , I've got a moderately tight firewall on my router, should that be enough?
[08:48] <ardchoille> !register | jason_
[08:48] <ubotu> jason_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:48] <Nubbie> navreet: http://rpm.rutgers.edu/repository/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gaim/gaim_2.0.0+beta6-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[08:48] <scottam> geoffrey2: if your device is /dev/hda are you using "mke2fs /dev/hda" or "mke2fs /dev/hda1"?
[08:48] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[08:49] <Nubbie> navreet: it's safe to install on dapper/edgy/ whatever you're using.
[08:49] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, as tight as you can get it. Make sure you cant reconfigure the router from the internet.
[08:49] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, wireless?
[08:49] <Nubbie> navreet: i went fishing for you :)
[08:49] <orbin> yiga1: irssi is popular
[08:49] <TimonUbuntu> draeath yes, wireless
[08:49] <navreet> Nubbie, thanks
[08:49] <TimonUbuntu> draeath, i had some problems getting it perfected with ubuntu, but all is good now
[08:49] <draeath> TimonUbuntu, make sure you are using WPA (WEP might as well be nothing, if you are keeping attackers out)
[08:49] <yiga1> orbin: ty, tried setting up irssi: it was  a challenge but maybe worth it there is nothing like using screen + mutt + mpd/xmms2 etc. in the command line
[08:50] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: wep can be cracked in like 10 seconds now.
[08:50] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , i know what you mean, it takes about 20 minutes to crack WEP now
[08:50] <Geoffrey2> scottam, ok, starting from step 1...I need to create at least one partition, probably more, in fdisk....
[08:50] <Crazytom> Nubbie, what?
[08:50] <yiga1> WEP sucks
[08:50] <Crazytom> Nubbie, how is that?
[08:50] <Nubbie> i heard 10 seconds... could've been bull, but i dunno.
[08:50] <Nubbie> still, 10 minutes is no time.
[08:50] <yiga1> WEP is like a glass door thats locked
[08:50] <TimonUbuntu> draeath , I had a look at aircrack-ng , unfortunately i couldnt see how long it took because my wifi drivers dont support injection as yet
[08:51] <Geoffrey2> scottam, by the way, I'm installing what's basically a stripped down version of slackware, in case that changes anything
[08:51] <Crazytom> no it's half the time but you still need 45000 packets which takes awhile to connect
[08:51] <wizard> yiga1: and as the zombie survival guide has taught us...
[08:51] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie , I know, it's crazy
[08:51] <Crazytom> *collect
[08:51] <wizard> glass wont protect against a zombie horde!
[08:51] <Nubbie> i wouldn't give advice on stealing somebody's wifi in a channel like this.
[08:51] <yiga1> wizard: :)
[08:51] <jason_> ahhh! im so lost, someone help me register a nick to irc so i can whisper.
[08:51] <ardchoille> !register | jason_
[08:51] <ubotu> jason_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:51] <wizard> yiga1: even reenforced glass :-P your best bet is to find refuge in a place with little glass!!! okay im done with offtopics lol
[08:51] <draeath> Crazytom, not too hard to drop a laptop with an atheros card in mornitor mode in a hidaway in range...
[08:51] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie , true, its not like anybody can't google it in 10 minutes now though. i think i'll just stick with WPA :D
[08:52] <yiga1> jason_: don't worry about it
[08:52] <draeath> Crazytom, if you are that dedicated..
[08:52] <Nubbie> wizard: the glass may be 2 feet thick, in which case GOOD LUCK buddy ;)
[08:52] <icicled> does anyone know any website that is geared towards programming on *nix systems, kinda like an alternative for http://codeprojects.com/ ?
[08:52] <Crazytom> draeath, you can actually use a wpa54g
[08:52] <scottam> geoffrey2: most installers (like ubuntu) will do things themselves, and different distros suggest doing different things, can you send me a link to the instructions so I can see what you're trying to understad
[08:52] <wizard> Nubbie: ever read teh book?
[08:52] <yiga1> Nubbie: or shatter proof
[08:52] <Nubbie> icicled: sourceforge!!!
[08:52] <draeath> Crazytom, i have a netgear WG511T (that happens to have an atheros) - infinite fun!
[08:52] <icicled> Nubbie, emm, that doesn't count, it's more of a repo. :P
[08:52] <ardchoille> !offtopic | Nubbie wizard
[08:52] <ubotu> Nubbie wizard: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:53] <jasonmarcell> My ubuntu will no longer login and I have "x-session-manager: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot read file data: Invalid argument" in my .xsession-errors. I am now logged into failsafe terminal mode and I'd like to restore that file if possible using apt-get from local cache or the CD without having it go and reinstall *all* dependancies. Is this possible?
[08:53] <yiga1> what about WPA vs. WPA2?
[08:53] <Nubbie> wizard: i'm not too concerened about wifi safety, as my computer is wired, and my wifi in the house is WPA2 secured.
[08:53] <draeath> yiga1, wpa2 has stronger encryption (AES vs TKIP)
[08:53] <Crazytom> draeath, the bcm4306 will work now too kismet works great on mine
[08:53] <Nubbie> ardchoille: i believe we are on topic, this gentleman is asking about security in ubuntu with wireless connections :l
[08:54] <wizard> Nubbie: i live in the middle of nowhere so unless deer have laptops i simply don't care
[08:54] <yiga1> draeath: yes but its a matter of the right driver to get wpa2 up, I am using serial monkey for wpa can't seem to get wpa2 to work and am wondering if it is worth it
[08:54] <draeath> yiga1, just change your key every week or two
[08:54] <Timeline> Nubbie: Says "can't phrase the config file /etc/clamav/clamamd.conf"
[08:54] <TimonUbuntu> I live in australia, a bit out of the way, i'm not too worried about anybody hacking my wep at the moment, but is Ubuntu hard to set up for WPA? is it hardware dependant?
[08:54] <pcollins> jasonmarcell, try deleting your .xsession-errors file
[08:54] <pcollins> just a thought
[08:54] <ShowTime> how i can open file with gedit with terminal?
[08:55] <Timeline> Nubbie: sorry that's "can't parse"
[08:55] <Nubbie> timeline: wow you're having a bad go at this... can you please pastebin the terminal output? maybe somebody can help you further.
[08:55] <yiga1> draeath: the method's in action, good less work to make it work then
[08:55] <icicled> TimonUbuntu, you can use wifi-radar which has an option for wpa
[08:55] <jasonmarcell> pcollins: and then what?
[08:55] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: only if you know the key
[08:55] <Nubbie> timonubuntu: use wpasupplicant.
[08:55] <icicled> TimonUbuntu, the good thing about wifi-radar is that it also runs as a daemon so it will connect to what it can automagically upon bootup
[08:55] <TimonUbuntu> icicled last time i tried wifi-radar it wouldn't let me connect at all, and seemed to cut off network-manager
[08:55] <pcollins> jasonmarcell, then try again (reboot or whatever)
[08:55] <Timeline> Nubbie: I am unsure how to pastebin
[08:55] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: WifiRadar is my friend
[08:55] <icicled> network-manager is broke, it doesn't support any extra options
[08:55] <jasonmarcell> pcollins: k
[08:55] <Nubbie> !paste | timeline
[08:55] <ubotu> timeline: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:56] <TimonUbuntu> I will give it another shot
[08:56] <Nubbie> use that link, and copy the output of your terminal in there.
[08:56] <draeath> all I need is a cantenna on a gimble attached to a scanning program :P
[08:56] <Crazytom> if you have data that is so sensitive you think someone will invest hours of time hacking into your wireless then go with wpa.  i personally feel fine using wep or just leaving mine open.  i changed the password and the ssid though among other things
[08:56] <Nubbie> timeline, then return to us with the link to your post.
[08:56] <TimonUbuntu> does wifi-radar give you a panel applet?
[08:56] <yiga1> Crazytom: you have apoint and plus if you isntall a firewall
[08:56] <icicled> i don't believe it does
[08:56] <Nubbie> crazytom: all of your data should be sensitive, as most of it is private.
[08:57] <draeath> Crazytom, only way into my router is to tunnle SSH into it first... no password, you have to have my PGP key and passphrase to unlock that.
[08:57] <TimonUbuntu> Crazytom , people can still leech your internet
[08:57] <icicled> but there are other applets which let you check on signal strength, etc
[08:57] <Crazytom> wep and firewall are two different directions people can come from
[08:57] <yiga1> Crazytorn: but then there is the quote "only the paranoid survive" :)
[08:57] <Geoffrey2> scottam, ok, now...I used fdisk to create two primary partitions, they are /dev/hda1p1, and /dev/hda1p2
[08:57] <yiga1> Geoffrey2: right on your using fdisk
[08:57] <Crazytom> TimonUbuntu, i don't really care
[08:57] <Nubbie> crazytom: around toronto here, creepers and pedophiles steal people's wifi to commit crimes, and guess whose door the police knock on the next day?
[08:57] <Geoffrey2> p1 is Linux, p2 is Linux Swap
[08:57] <Crazytom> TimonUbuntu, about people borrowing internet
[08:58] <Nubbie> crazytom: you should be very concerned about security.
[08:58] <thetechgeek> yigal u there?
[08:58] <TimonUbuntu> Crazytom, no worries then :D
[08:58] <yiga1> thetechgeek: of course
[08:58] <scottam> geoffrey2: did you fdisk /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda?
[08:58] <TimonUbuntu> Are there any packages that conflict with wifi radar
[08:58] <Crazytom> my wep key is my phone number
[08:58] <thetechgeek> Okay dont have much time but on install got error msg:
[08:58] <thetechgeek> ________________________________
[08:58] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: no, except maybe your firewall
[08:58] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: try installing it to find out.
[08:58] <Crazytom> there now everyone know it
[08:58] <Geoffrey2> fdisk /dev/hda1 is what I used
[08:58] <Nubbie> crazytom: thats very unwise.
[08:58] <Jason_> ok my question. I just installed Kibuntu and my audio drivers are present, but the sound is not actually working. can someone help me?
[08:58] <wizard> odd
[08:59] <scottam> geoffrey2: /dev/hda is the device, /dev/hda1 is the first partition, i think /dev/hda1p1 is bad
[08:59] <TimonUbuntu> i remember why i uninstalled it now
[08:59] <TimonUbuntu> the edit button on wifi radar won't work
[08:59] <draeath> if I add "/home    *(rw,sync,no_root_squash)" to /etc/exports does the user still need to authenticate first?
[08:59] <Crazytom> anyone know my phone number here?
[08:59] <thetechgeek> test of file system with type fat 16 in partition #1 of ide 2 master (hdc) found uncorrected errors
[08:59] <thetechgeek> ___________________________________
[08:59] <thetechgeek> ???
[08:59] <Geoffrey2> scottam....you'd never guess I'm still new to Linux, would you? :)
[08:59] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: perhaps it needs root privileges to use the edit thing.
[08:59] <yiga1> jason_: go to #kubuntu?
[08:59] <scottam> geoffrey2: when you run fdisk you want to do it to /dev/hda not /dev/hda1
[09:00] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie how do i give it root privelages
[09:00] <thetechgeek> yigal?
[09:00] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: you're using fat16 WHY? lol.
[09:00] <yiga1> geoffrey2: otherwise it won't work
[09:00] <scottam> geoffrey2:  ::shrug:: we were all new once
[09:00] <wizard> this is weird
[09:00] <pcollins> Jason_, what happens when you run 'alsamixer' from the command line?
[09:00] <thetechgeek> This is my sisters 5 year old laptop
[09:00] <Nubbie> TimonUbuntu: sudo wifi-radar? i dunno i don't use wifi radar, and it was only a guess.
[09:00] <yiga1> thetechgeek: yes what is it
[09:00] <Timeline> Nubbie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15752/
[09:00] <Geoffrey2> scottam, so basically I was trying to place a primary partition inside a primary partition..... :)
[09:00] <TimonUbuntu> Nubbie i'll check it out
[09:00] <thetechgeek> thats y im using ubuntu in the first place
[09:00] <thetechgeek> yigal-
[09:01] <Jason_> alsamixer?
[09:01] <yiga1> TimonUbuntu: why aren't you using wireless-tools
[09:01] <scottam> geoffrey: yes
[09:01] <Nubbie> thetechgeek: you should definitely not be using fat16 for anything.
[09:01] <thetechgeek> posted error message above
[09:01] <pcollins> Jason_, yeah, it's a text-mode sound configurater thingy
[09:01] <scottam> geoffrey2: then when you run mke2fs you should do it to /dev/hda1
[09:01] <TimonUbuntu> yigal , i just set it up manually using iwconfig
[09:01] <ShowTime> i cant listen music. what i should download?
[09:01] <Geoffrey2> nah, use fat12....live a bit :)
[09:01] <thetechgeek> yigal-
[09:01] <draeath> Crazytom, http://www.whitepages.com/10001/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=chris&name=babcock&city_zip=&state_id=FL&default_listing=phone&localtime=survey
[09:01] <Jason_> where do i get this?
[09:02] <draeath> Crazytom, hope your not listed!!!
[09:02] <Nubbie> !mp3 > shotime
[09:02] <yiga1> thetechgeek: yes I just saw
[09:02] <Nubbie> damnit
[09:02] <Nubbie> !mp3 > showtime
[09:02] <yiga1> thetechgeek: can you repartition the whole thing?
[09:02] <thetechgeek> ???
[09:02] <ShowTime> thx
[09:02] <yiga1> thetechgeek: ok do you have a live cd?
[09:02] <thetechgeek> ya
[09:02] <pcollins> Jason_, open up the 'Terminal' application via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[09:03] <TimonUbuntu> where can i find wireless-tools
[09:03] <Timeline> Nubbie: just noticed that it does say something about errors in the clam install
[09:03] <TimonUbuntu> i have the package installed
[09:03] <yiga1> thetechgeek: you can boot from that and try to repair the main hd
[09:03] <pcollins> then type 'alsamixer' (without the quotes!) and hit enter
[09:03] <ShowTime> where i can see what i can get with apt-get? I mean what packets
[09:03] <draeath> Crazytom, did I get you in the right state and name?
[09:03] <Timeline> Nubbie: That should be in the pastebin
[09:03] <Nubbie> timeline: ohhh maybe it needs clam to be running for it to work.
[09:03] <yiga1> thetechgeek: using fschk
[09:03] <thetechgeek> fat 16 isnt the main hard drive i have no clue what it does
[09:03] <thetechgeek> the main is ntfs
[09:03] <Nubbie> timeline: try running sudo /etc/init.d/clam start
[09:03] <pcollins> actually the quotes don't matter :-)
[09:04] <thetechgeek> main partition i mean
[09:04] <Nubbie> timeline: or it might be clamav start, i'm not sure.
[09:04] <yiga1> thetechgeek: r u using a live cd now?
[09:04] <zaphands> Hello. What's the easiest program to send E-mails (with attachments) from the command line?
[09:04] <thetechgeek> ya
[09:04] <Jason_> in applications, i do not see an Accessories icon?
[09:04] <draeath> thetechgeek, its probably something to do with a recovery partition from dell/hp/whoever
[09:04] <thetechgeek> in english, plz
[09:04] <Nubbie> zaphands: i think evolution can be used from the command line, and it is already installed. read it's manpage.
[09:05] <yiga1> thetechgeek: I will try
[09:05] <draeath> thetechgeek, a leftover from venders being too lazy/cheap to give you restore disks and putting them on the drive instead
[09:05] <zaphands> Thanks!
[09:05] <aa^way> yo, i downloaded java by "sudo apt-get install java-package" and java works in browsers and in terminal i use "java" for running applications, but seems like i cant use javac, witch package i need and can i get it from ubuntu ? like s udo apt-get install javac
[09:05] <thetechgeek> so can i just click continue w/o ne thing messing up?
[09:05] <pcollins> Jason_, did you click on the Application menu item on the menu bar?
[09:05] <thetechgeek> got 9 min of battery...
[09:05] <TimonUbuntu> does anybody know why wifi-radar edit button does nothing?
[09:06] <thetechgeek> i have restore cds
[09:06] <ShowTime> where i can see what i can get with apt-get? I mean what packets
[09:06] <thetechgeek> ??
[09:06] <pcollins> like the "Start" buttin in windows
[09:06] <Nubbie> dreath: but why fat16 :o it baffles my mind. i would think a restore partition is pretty important, so it should at least be journaled.
[09:06] <draeath> thetechgeek, so mount the fat16 and look in it... see whats there
[09:06] <aa^way> ShowTime open terminal and type sudo apt-get list
[09:06] <ShowTime> thank's
[09:06] <aa^way> wait nvm
[09:06] <thetechgeek> yigal?
[09:06] <draeath> Nubbie, fat16 and small, just enough to boot up to something else. think /boot for windows
[09:06] <thetechgeek> ...
[09:06] <scottam> showtime: you can also use synaptic package manager
[09:07] <Timeline> Nubbie: Both command not found
[09:07] <Nubbie> draeath: $5 says his vendor has been spying on him using that partition :)
[09:07] <Jason_> where do i go for that? sorry im nub :[
[09:07] <pcollins> no worries
[09:07] <mojojojo_> where is the place in Ubuntu where I can configure trackball???
[09:07] <draeath> I gota go. I got to work in 5 hours! MUST SLEEP
[09:07] <ShowTime> scottam where i can download it? It's program?
[09:07] <mojojojo_> is there any, at all?
[09:07] <scottam> draeath: sleep is for the week
[09:08] <zaphands> evolution doesn't seem to have that option. Any other command line E-mail senders?
[09:08] <thetechgeek> ill be back sometime i have no battery bye
[09:08] <draeath> scottam, after spending all last night up, and waking up with a slight hangover from a wedding party? ick.
[09:08] <mojojojo_> ?
[09:08] <Nubbie> timeline: i'm sorry i really can't help you anymore with clam. try to get it started, or restart your computer and try the freshclam again. and if you still have problems, try to track down somebody using clamav. i think they may even have an irc channel you could try.
[09:08] <pcollins> anybody know how to get to the "Applications" menu bar on a default Kubuntu install for Jason_
[09:08] <evilsherpa> im off you guys, thanks for all the help
[09:08] <thetechgeek> ...
[09:08] <scottam> showtime: first see if it's already installed, the name from the command line is just synaptic
[09:09] <Timeline> Nubbie: ugh, ok thanks for trying
[09:09] <Nubbie> zaphands: try google, as i think most people here aren't using a command line email program. you wouldn't be sending out spam to unwitting folks now would you :|
[09:09] <Nubbie> timeline: clamav does work, i used <-- to use it.
[09:09] <scottam> showtime: you might be able to find it in the GUI under system -> something, but i don't know exactly where, so my help will be for the CLI
[09:09] <draeath> zaphands, mutt or pine
[09:09] <pcollins> Jason_ maybe you'll have more success on the kubuntu channel
[09:09] <zaphands> of course not. I have split a big file and I want to send all it's parts in a script.
[09:10] <Nubbie> timeline: i even tested it by downloading a fake demo virus to test it with, and it was detected and quaruntined with clam.
[09:10] <Crazytom> draeath, ok i see how you got my name but how did you get fl?  just cause i said it?
[09:10] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mail
[09:10] <Jason_> i wish that were true, but no one responds in that channel
[09:10] <ShowTime> scottam: when i type: sudo apt-get list it says there is no that command
[09:10] <zaphands> mjbrooks: can mail get mail off my computer?
[09:10] <jmega> im trying to access my windows shares. I have samba installed. I can see the shares from my other windows box but I cant access them from ubuntu. It tells me: The folder contents could not be displayed
[09:11] <Timeline> Nubbie: Cool. Just wish I could get it working, I thought it would be a great way to scan dead Windows drives
[09:11] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mail will mail mail  ;)
[09:11] <Nubbie> zaphands: you could always drag/drop them all using evolution.
[09:11] <scottam> showtime: that's true....does "synaptic" run?
[09:11] <mjbrooks> zaphands, from the comand line
[09:11] <Nubbie> jmega: you need to have a user account on your windows box to log into via samba with.
[09:11] <ShowTime> scottam: root@dominik-desktop:~# synaptic
[09:11] <ShowTime> (synaptic:5383): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:12] <devidos> I am running Ubuntu LTS 6.06, is it possible to upgrade to a PHP package above 5.1.2? appreciated...
[09:12] <zaphands> Nubbie: That's hundreds of 25MB files... I can't send them all in one E-mail.
[09:12] <kjol> t
[09:12] <scottam> showtime: so it exists, but it can't access X11
[09:12] <Nubbie> jmega: for example, if you have a user named userx on your windows box, accessing the samba shares you would log in with userx and userxs's password.
[09:12] <zaphands> what package should be installed for mail?
[09:12] <Nubbie> zaphands: i see :)
[09:12] <Nubbie> zaphands: mail is already installed ;)
[09:12] <ShowTime> scottam: how to get it work?
[09:12] <mjbrooks> zaphands, lemme loo
[09:13] <pcollins> Jason try system tools -> konsole
[09:13] <scottam> showtime: are you SSHed in or something?
[09:13] <Nubbie> eww KDE :o
[09:13] <zaphands> It's not installed on my system
[09:13] <ShowTime> scottam: what is this? :s
[09:13] <yiga1> Nubbie: what is your beef with KDE?
[09:13] <weelove> a chat..
[09:14] <weelove> xD
[09:14] <czr> any idea why system boot would stop in usplash and never continue to kdm? (removing the splash parameter from kernel command line in grub will result in display manager starting just fine)
[09:14] <Nubbie> kde is ugly and runs QT.
[09:14] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mailx
[09:14] <scottam> showtime: huh?
[09:14] <mjbrooks> zaphands, mailx is the package
[09:14] <zaphands> mjbrooks: Thanks
[09:14] <crimsun> wizard_: btw, we've resolved your feisty audio issue.
[09:14] <yiga1> Nubbie: what is wrong with Qt?
[09:14] <Nubbie> timeline: install clamav-daemon
[09:14] <mojojojo_> ubotu: ntfs
[09:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:14] <Nubbie> QT = ugliness.
[09:14] <czr> yiga1, he doesn't like it :-)
[09:15] <yiga1> Nubbie: to each there own :)
[09:15] <czr> hmm. another one then, how do I disable the usplash using a d-i directive?
[09:15] <wizard_> crimsun: what was it?
[09:15] <ShowTime> scottam: i run synaptic without su -. Some aplication's i cant run when im logged in as root. Is that normall?
[09:15] <Timeline> Nubbie: I think I got it working, I tried installing it again.
[09:16] <scottam> showtime: ok, you want a full list, "sudo apt-cache pkgnames" should do it; i recommend sending it to the display differently, maybe pipe it into less
[09:16] <Nubbie> timeline: good to hear :)
[09:16] <crimsun> wizard_: adding a codec revision-specific hack for newer hardware broke support for older hardware.
[09:16] <scottam> showtime: you're logged in as root?!
[09:16] <Timeline> Nubbie: Now freshclam tells me I need a new version, but I'm not sure how to get it
[09:16] <scottam> showtime: you're not really supposed to do that
[09:16] <UnluckyMa1> Anyone have any idea why Ubuntu's installer gives me a black screen?
[09:16] <yiga1> czr: do you mean using /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:17] <yiga1> czr: or something else?
[09:17] <wizard_> crimsun: oh. would it be patched in any way for the final release? :-)
[09:17] <Nubbie> timeline: you don't need a new version.
[09:17] <zaphands> Help! Debconf is stuck! How can I fix the installation later?
[09:17] <yiga1> czr: just take out the splash in the kerel command
[09:17] <wizard_> crimsun: i'd of loved to of waited it out but i use my laptop for song mixing... obviously no sound no mixes lol
[09:17] <czr> yiga1, er, I removed splash from grub command line (ie, the boot manager prompt) not /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:17] <Nubbie> zaphands: sudo apt-get install --force i think
[09:17] <czr> yiga1, I'm working on a fully automated install. so "doing manual fixes" is not the solution
[09:17] <bkudria> my keyboard layout is all screwed up - i have to (re)set some individual keys with xmodmap.  what could be wrong?
[09:18] <zaphands> Nubbie: Thanks.
[09:18] <Timeline> Nubbie: says my version is 0.88.2, current is 0.90.2
[09:18] <Timbuntu> Strange, with wifi-radar i can edit new connections that i make, but not my main one
[09:18] <Timbuntu> even if i disconnect.
[09:18] <UnluckyMa1> Guess I'm slackware bound.
[09:18] <yiga1> czr: hmm, strange the text file is very simple to fix
[09:18] <czr> yiga1, is it really? when you install 20-30 systems each day?
[09:18] <Jason_> pcollins hey i found the terminal
[09:18] <yiga1> czr: I will walk you through it in a very short time
[09:18] <aa^way> trying to install JDK, opening package and status: error: dependency is not satisfiable : sun-java5-jdk
[09:19] <pcollins> Jason_, kool. Now type 'alsamixer' then hit enter.
[09:19] <czr> yiga1, you're missing the point. I can fix the text file myself. but I need to track where the problem is unless I can find a d-i directive that disables usplash
[09:19] <Jason_> ok
[09:19] <Jason_> then?
[09:19] <scottam> showtime: if you run synaptic as a normal user in the sudoers file it should give you a nice GUI and then prompt you for your password
[09:19] <czr> yiga1, again, I'm working a fully automated install (using d-i preseed stuff)
[09:19] <pcollins> the unmute and turn up the volume on the sliders
[09:19] <yiga1> czr: I think unfortunately you are missing the point the /boot/grub/menu.lst is a very small file which can be copied very rapidly throughout your entire system
[09:19] <Timbuntu> is there a netbeans-ish program for linux?
[09:20] <Timbuntu> for java
[09:20] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, er, netbeans
[09:20] <czr> yiga1, while d-i is running? :-)
[09:20] <gryph76> has anyone here looked into sharing network drives with feisty?
[09:20] <ShowTime> scottam: but some applications do NOT run when im logged as root (su -) and run when im logged (su or normal user) is that normal?
[09:20] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks , haha really, i couldnt find the netbeans download for linux . my bad
[09:20] <rambo3> eclipse and netbeans
[09:20] <pcollins> Jason_, you want to turn up "master" and "PCM"
[09:20] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, I'm pretty sure
[09:21] <Jason_> ok how do i do that?
[09:21] <pcollins> up arrow
[09:21] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, been awhile since I botherd with it
[09:21] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks looks like you're right :D
[09:21] <UnluckyMa1> Is there an advanced support forum where the questions aren't answered by the first google result?
[09:21] <pcollins> "m" to toggle muting
[09:21] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks , is there another Java IDE you'd recommend??
[09:21] <Nubbie> gryph76: are you having a problem? if you are just state your problem.
[09:21] <Timeline> Nubbie: ok running clamscan, it can't open the folder /mnt and it can't read the file system on /dev/hda1 (ntfs)
[09:22] <scottam> showtime: if you're logged into the GUI as non-root and in a terminal you sudo su - to root then it is not uncommon in my experience for the root login to be unable to open your non-root X display.....
[09:22] <yiga1> czr: you need all your system to be viewable I mean the processes viewable as they boot?
[09:22] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: well we're all volunteers here.  have you tried the official forums?
[09:22] <Jason_> ok they are on, but the white,grren and red bar is not present in the master volume control
[09:22] <mjbrooks> Timbuntu, I've been kinda awa from Java since just before 1.5 came out
[09:22] <zaphands> does anyone know how to configure mail?
[09:22] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, there are email lists and the likes of that
[09:22] <Nubbie> timeline: sudo clamscan
[09:22] <Jason_> green*
[09:22] <UnluckyMa1> orbin: No results there either.  No one tells me they don't know.  No one answers at all.
[09:22] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: where is it black-screening?
[09:23] <gryph76> 2 problems, the first is that I can't ping my feisty box by it's network name, only by IP address and I don't know why
[09:23] <Wazm> that's a secret
[09:23] <czr> yiga1, forget about it, really. unless you know the answer to my d-i question, you can't help.
[09:23] <Nubbie> timeline: also your windows partition should be in a folder like /media/windows or something. don't try to scan the device block (/dev/*anythin*)
[09:23] <Jason_> and i cannot press up or down for the master
[09:23] <Timbuntu> mjbrooks , yeah no worries. I've got a couple java projects in the work, i hope its not too much trouble porting them from windows netbeans to linux.. im sure it wont be
[09:23] <pcollins> so you cant turn it up? -- are there numbers above the "Master" label?
[09:23] <yiga1> Nubbie: when you say d-i do you mean debian installer or something else because I really don't know what d-i is
[09:23] <UnluckyMa1> orbin: It boots from the CD.  I get no bootlist.  It immediately says "Loading isolinux", and then turns black.
[09:23] <Jason_> no
[09:23] <scottam> unluckyma1: people tend not to respond if they don't know, because you really don't want to get a gazillion "i don't know" responses and have to search to see if anyone said "yes, here is your solution"
[09:23] <gryph76> second is possibly linked to the first so I'll worry about that later ;)
[09:23] <yiga1> excuse me Nubbie I mean czr
[09:23] <Nubbie> gryph76: does it matter?
[09:23] <pcollins> at the top of the AlsaMixer window, does it state a Card and Chip?
[09:24] <Nubbie> gryph76: and did you set a hostname in Networking?
[09:24] <Jason_> Yes
[09:24] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: possible you got/burned a bad disc.  can you try it on another computer?
[09:24] <Timeline> Nubbie: nothing in media
[09:24] <Jason_> they match my sound card too
[09:24] <kjol> anyone set up mod_perl on ubuntu server ? need help with cgi-bin
[09:24] <pcollins> sheesh i dunno
[09:25] <UnluckyMa1> Orbin:  7.04 LiveCD, 6.10 LiveCD and alternative all do it.  Works fine on another computer.
[09:25] <yiga1> Jason_: you probably need to use the gui version of alsa mixer I remember this can be an issue
[09:25] <Nubbie> timeline: first off you aren't running off a livecd are you?
[09:25] <scottam> timeline: you still trying to get stuff from ntfs to a flash drive?
[09:25] <danst> kjol sorry, can't help
[09:25] <gryph76> Nubbie: since I'm on a DHCP network and even if I know the IP of my machine others on my network might not, and yes, I did set a hostname
[09:25] <bergux> can you help to  use usb wifi adaper usr805422?
[09:25] <Jason_> where do i get the GUI version of alsamixer?
[09:25] <Nubbie> kjol: install php and apache, and its easy. i'm running a PHP apache server right now.
[09:25] <bkudria> my keyboard layout is all screwed up - i have to (re)set some individual keys with xmodmap.  what could be wrong?  it is reset anytime i run setxkbmap
[09:25] <Jason_> from synaptic manager?
[09:26] <orbin> UnluckyMa1: desktop or notebook?
[09:26] <yiga1> Jason_: or if you want the command line , "sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer"
[09:26] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, replace cdrom drive with another one as both disks which you say are good elsewhere fail  also
[09:26] <Acree> witam :)
[09:26] <kjol> Nubbie: yes but this needs perl not apache and i've never used perl before only php
[09:26] <ompaul> !bootoptions > UnluckyMa1 (check message from bot)
[09:26] <UnluckyMa1> orbin: Desktop with the most common hardware I can imagine.  Standard AMD processor, standard Radeon video.  VIA chipset.  that's about it.
[09:26] <Nubbie> kjol: i'm sorry i misread you.
[09:27] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul:  Slackware, Fedora, Knoppmyth, and a few others all boot fine.  But I'd really like to use Ubuntu.
[09:27] <yiga1> so sad?
[09:27] <pcollins> /usr/bin/gnome-volume-control
[09:27] <Timeline> Nubbie: Yes. It's a notebook with a dead windows install.
[09:27] <ubuntu__> yesh, very very very sad
[09:27] <Nubbie> kjol: i'm sure there is a guide for setting up a perl based web server.
[09:27] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, try the noapic stuff in that page the bot sent you
[09:27] <setts> anyone use a brother dcp-130c?
[09:27] <yiga1> pcollins: perfect but does he have this in kubuntu?
[09:27] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul: Also, I can't modify boot options.  That was my first problem.
[09:27] <Nubbie> Timeline: okay... how is it dead..
[09:27] <Timeline> scottam: No, that test worked, doing virus scans now
[09:27] <Jason_> ok i think it installed
[09:28] <UnluckyMa1> I know all about how I'm supposed to get a bootlist where I can change boot options.  I don't get that.  It immediately begins loading the kernel as soon as the CD is even polled.
[09:28] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, then most certainly try a diffferent cd drive in the box
[09:28] <pcollins> kool
[09:28] <yiga1> Jason_: great
[09:28] <ubuntu__> how can i mount a NTFS drive in ubuntu 5.0.2?
[09:28] <ubuntu__> liveCD
[09:28] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul: I have a cd and a dvd player in there.  They both do it.
[09:28] <Jason_> where is it?
[09:28] <aa^way> where you write "--fix-missing", like into terminal but how?
[09:28] <Nubbie> i am not aware of this ubuntu 5.0.2....
[09:28] <pjotr> Everyone ever had problems with geforce 7600gs? Mine just dont seem to work properly on ubuntu 6.10, installed that new beta and it worked, but at 6.10 X wont always start
[09:28] <Timeline> Nubbie: stop error at load screen, foreces a reboot loop
[09:28] <Nubbie> !ntfs > ubuntu__
[09:28] <ubuntu__> err sorry, its 5ish xD
[09:28] <Nubbie> timeline: you're sure it's a virus?
[09:29] <icyhot> can anyone verify whether they issue where the keyring didn't save Samba passwords has been fixed in the new feisty?
[09:29] <Nubbie> icyhot: read the bug thing on the ubuntu website.
[09:29] <Timeline> Nubbie: Nope, just trying to check
[09:29] <yiga1> Jason_:go to Sound and Video
[09:29] <Timeline> Nubbie: It's an IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL stop error
[09:30] <yiga1> Jason_: do u see it?
[09:30] <Nubbie> timeline: :l k read a guide on mounting ntfs drives, and mount the drive to somewhere easy. then aim clam scan at that folder where you mounted it.
[09:30] <Jason_> ok i have it up
[09:30] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, your out of luck that box is playing hard to get (usually a hardware problem) randomly changing the stuff plugged into the PCI slots *might* help
[09:30] <Jason_> yes
[09:30] <Nubbie> Timeline: normally i would just tell people this is the time to convert to linux.... but i'll help you out.
[09:30] <Nubbie> ;)
[09:30] <yiga1> Jason_: is anything muted or very low
[09:30] <Jason_> Line
[09:30] <Jason_> Mic
[09:30] <Jason_> Video
[09:30] <Jason_> Phone
[09:30] <ubuntu__> where do i type all the sudo commands again? (forgot)
[09:30] <Jason_> Aux
[09:30] <yiga1> Jason_: ok stop
[09:30] <Jason_> ok
[09:31] <Nubbie> Jason_: i'm going to idiot-proof you right now..... are your powered speakers plugged in/turned on/or turned up?
[09:31] <yiga1> Jason: is all Master, Headphone up
[09:31] <yiga1> Nubbie: :)
[09:31] <pcollins> Jason_, do you have speakers?
[09:31] <pcollins> :)
[09:31] <Nubbie> Jason_: i'm sorry to ask the obvious questions, but sometimes thats the problem. nobody asks the obvious questions :)
[09:31] <icyhot> Nubbie: I know there's a bug open for it on launchpad but it hasnt been updated in a while.  it worked in previous releases before edgy so I don't know what's going on.  have you seen something specific?
[09:31] <Jason_> Master is not showing
[09:31] <Jason_> only MasterM
[09:31] <Jason_> i use the internal speakers on this laptop
[09:31] <Nubbie> icyhot: if it's in launchpad, it will be updated if there is a fix for it.
[09:32] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul: I'll concede that I may be out of luck.  But it currently has FC and Windows dual booting, with no problem.  I'd like to replace both with Ubuntu.  Since it works with every other OS, I still think it's an Ubuntu problem.
[09:32] <rausb0> ubuntu__: in a terminal window, like xterm
[09:32] <yiga1> ok Jason_: just move everything up to about maximum
[09:32] <icyhot> Nubbie: ok, thx.  hopefully they'll get to it soon.
[09:32] <Nubbie> Jason_: ahh you didn't say that
[09:32] <Timeline> Nubbie: I'm fixing this notebook for someone as a job, just thought I could use ubuntu live cd to help things go faster
[09:32] <czr> hmm. i think I've almost got it. any idea how to programmatically cause a VT switch on /dev/tty ?
[09:32] <yiga1> Jason_: if anything is muted just unmute, its not such a good idea but it should give you volume if you have it
[09:32] <rausb0> ubuntu__: press alt-f2, type in xterm and press return
[09:32] <czr> (can't use openvt since the target VT is in use)
[09:32] <Jason_> ok let me chekc
[09:32] <Nubbie> Timeline: mount the ntfs drive somewhere easy, then aim clamscan at it.
[09:33] <crimsun> Jason_: what's the output from ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat'' ?
[09:33] <Sevensins> guten Morgen
[09:33] <yiga1> rausb0: hard core xterm :)
[09:33] <Timeline> Nubbie: if this was a desktop HDD I would just take it out and put it into a working PC
[09:33] <Nubbie> Jason_: some people have problems where their internal speakers will only work if something is plugged into the headphone port, etc.
[09:33] <rausb0> yiga1: xterm is the only one :)
[09:33] <rambo3> oss is not installed by default on ubuntu
[09:33] <ubuntu__> im guessin the regular terminal should cover it
[09:33] <foutrelis> Does anyone know how to make a multi-boot DVD with all (X,K)Ubuntu ? :)
[09:33] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, ever think the ubuntu kernel could be probing some hardware with a driver which is hitting the edge of sanity for a dodgy piece of hardware (I have seen this before)
[09:33] <Nubbie> Timeline: and if it was riddled with viruses, your working PC would cease to function.
[09:33] <crimsun> rambo3: alsa's oss emulation is loaded by default.
[09:33] <yiga1> rausb0: I happen to use urxvt but yes after this terminal xterm
[09:33] <Nubbie> timeline: :l
[09:34] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul:  Maybe.  But I doubt it, since it doesn't ever load the kernel.
[09:34] <yiga1> Jason_: ? u ok?
[09:34] <pirothezero> 2 Questions: 1. How do I use those terminal scripts I find online to add 'open terminal here' to right click menu. B. anyway to change the copy/transfer prompts to show mb/s?
[09:34] <rausb0> yiga1: actually, the terminal type doesnt matter as long as screen can run inside it :)
[09:34] <Sevensins> hmmm the problem i had with flash yesterday is still actual and now i think i have the concentration to solve it with someones help
[09:34] <Nubbie> foutrelis: why... all of those cds contain almost identical files. just install ubuntu and then either install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop packages.
[09:34] <Jason_> Crimsun the output is Mixers: 0: C-
[09:34] <ompaul> UnluckyMa1, scoll back up here you said it did already: <UnluckyMan> First off, I never get a boot list when it boots from the CD.  My computer gives the normal "Boot from CD" message, then it immediately starts booting the kernel.
[09:34] <yiga1> rausb0: so true
[09:35] <Nubbie> pirothezero: put them in the nautilus script folder.
[09:35] <Jason_> C-Media Electronics CMI9739
[09:35] <Timeline> Nubbie: I thought I mounted it to /mnt, but clamscan isn't able to open it
[09:35] <UnluckyMa1> ompaul:  Yes.  "starts" booting the kernel.  Then goes black before actually booting, like I said.
[09:35] <UnluckyMa1> Hence "immediately" goes black, as opposed to "goes black at a much later, more convenient point".
[09:35] <pirothezero> Nubbie, i did that and when i right click nothing..there a process i have to restart?
[09:35] <Nubbie> pirothezero: yeah.... nautilus.
[09:35] <crimsun> Jason_: can you pastebin the required info from the top section of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems ?
[09:35] <pirothezero> o lol
[09:35] <pirothezero> ty :)
[09:35] <Nubbie> timeline: can you browse the files on your windows partition?
[09:36] <foutrelis> Nubbie: I would like to put all of them on a DVD and have them seperate from each other. So I can choose which flavor to install :)
[09:36] <rausb0> UnluckyMa1: and you can't press F6 to change boot options before?
[09:36] <ubuntu__> someone hold me, for i have just accidently erased all my data while i played in vista
[09:36] <ompaul> that reads like during - no matter you got some - I have suggested moving things in pci slots and testing other drives - - and make sure your not on cable select with the cds etc
[09:36] <ubuntu__> >____<
[09:36] <Xenguy> die
[09:36] <aa^way> how to change place where you download files with "apt-get", its getting from currently ee.ubuntu.com but i would like america server or something
[09:36] <Nubbie> foutrelis: the effort involved is almost certainly not worth saving 2 blank cds, i have to tell you.
[09:36] <ubuntu__> thats what i get for playing with the registry =_=
[09:36] <ompaul> ubuntu__, you are offtopic
[09:36] <UnluckyMa1> rausb0: Nope.  I've tried.  It's like my BIOS's "Boot from CD" and "Loading isolinux" happen pretty much simultaneously despite no input from me.
[09:37] <rausb0> UnluckyMa1: hmmm. bad.
[09:37] <foutrelis> Nubbie: Oh..   It all happens so fast, the only reason I see "Loading isolinux" is because I held down pause break.
[09:37] <Nubbie> foutrelis: if there were an easy way, it would be well known, and people would use it.
[09:37] <ubuntu__> ompaul: I was mounting NTFS in ubuntu to check if the data (the documents folder) was still there, so i guess thanks for the help for instructing me how...
[09:37] <Nubbie> ompaul: i was just jerking your chain :l be cool :)
[09:37] <ubuntu__> i didnt know how to mount, and since you told me how; i guess thats all the help i needed :/
[09:38] <Jason_> how do i pastebin?
[09:38] <ompaul> Nubbie, I am - ice cold :)
[09:38] <ompaul> !pastebin
[09:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:38] <Nubbie> ompaul: collld-blooded.
[09:38] <ubuntu__> i am going to go scream into a pillow not, thnx
[09:38] <ubuntu__> not=now
[09:38] <Nubbie> not does not = now...
[09:38] <Nubbie> :l
[09:38] <ubuntu__> thats what i meant... why are you being so mean ;_;
[09:38] <yiga1> sounds like haskel above
[09:38] <Nubbie> lol.
[09:39] <Sevensins> the problem is that i dont hear music once the flashplayer starts playing music and it must have st to do with st that i did ... but i dont know what ... q the moment i have the nonfreeflashplugin installed on my system and i can see flashmovies play like...i mean i see the animantions ...but ...if for example on myspace i push play in the mediasection of an account i dont hear the music and the firefoxwindow greys out ...wich means it h
[09:39] <Nubbie> !mp3 > sevensins
[09:39] <Nubbie> sevensins: i'm pretty sure thats your problem.
[09:39] <Timeline> Nubbie: only by typing sudo nautilus --no-desktop /mnt   Which I do not fully under why i must do that.
[09:39] <yiga1> Sevensins: usually it means you have to kill esd
[09:39] <foutrelis> My pc runs faster with windows than with ubuntu :( It's has a crappy celeron 1.7 cpu but it gets VERY slow in ubuntu. Is there anything I could do to make it go faster? I mean, I have loads over 2.5 almost all the time :(
[09:39] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15758/
[09:39] <Sevensins> kill essd
[09:39] <yiga1> Sevensins: so you can in a terminal type "pkill esd"
[09:40] <Sevensins> okay ill try
[09:40] <Nubbie> ohhh ESD is stealing his audio card?
[09:40] <Sevensins> yiga1 thx
[09:40] <Nubbie> :O
[09:40] <Sevensins> nubbie thx
[09:40] <yiga1> Sevensins: np
[09:40] <Nubbie> ESD is the bad.
[09:40] <yiga1> very bad
[09:40] <Nubbie> i don't like how gnome now corrects t e h to the.
[09:41] <tooth> electrostatic discharge?
[09:41] <Nubbie> tooth: what?
[09:41] <tooth> ESD
[09:41] <tooth> :D
[09:41] <pcollins> one day teh will take over
[09:41] <Nubbie> tooth: oh yeah, thats even worse.
[09:41] <yiga1> tooth: like ESP
[09:41] <rausb0> !info esd
[09:41] <ubotu> Package esd does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:41] <scottam> nubbie: hate to break it to you, but the correct spelling is "the" ;-)
[09:41] <Nubbie> "its like i have ESPN or something"
[09:42] <Nubbie> scottam: but t e h is t e h 1337.
[09:42] <rausb0> esd is enlighted sound daemon
[09:42] <tooth> not very enlightened is it.
[09:42] <Nubbie> scottam: the is just lame/conformist because anybody with an english dictionary uses the.
[09:42] <rausb0> tooth: no :)
[09:42] <pcollins> the will be defunct like "ye"
[09:42] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15759/
[09:42] <Sevensins> hmmm no yiga1
[09:42] <yiga1> ye old esd
[09:42] <pcollins> lol
[09:42] <scottam> if you want to be non-conformist, write "ye" then
[09:42] <Nubbie> ye us still in the dictionary, and according to gnome, is correctly used.
[09:42] <Sevensins> i typed as u said but it wont work
[09:43] <yiga1> Sevensins: fare, do you have another process that is using sound
[09:43] <Sevensins> hmmm mom
[09:43] <rausb0> tooth: go to www.xmms.org and search for esd on that page ;)
[09:43] <yiga1> Sevensins: I have also found this is an issue
[09:43] <foutrelis> I'm leaving. Bye people :)
[09:43] <Nubbie> i didn't even have a chance to say goodbye :o
[09:43] <Nubbie> lol.
[09:43] <yiga1> Sevensins: so close all programs using sound, pkill esd - cross fingers rub rabbit tail
[09:43] <chewed-on> Hey guys, is Gentoo a good distribution ?
[09:43] <aa^way> how to change place where you download files with "apt-get", its getting from currently ee.ubuntu.com but i would like america server or something
[09:43] <chewed-on> I'm a guy that's into 3D graphics and gaming.
[09:44] <yiga1> chewed-on: if you have a year to kill
[09:44] <scottam> gentoo is a lot of work
[09:44] <chewed-on> I also prefer to have a safe and secure system.
[09:44] <Sevensins> kay ill do
[09:44] <yiga1> chewed-on: but if you have the time
[09:44] <ompaul> chewed-on, ask in #gentoo, we prefer ubuntu over it for some strange reason
[09:44] <Nubbie> chewed-on: you realize that people here will tell you no, because we're all ubuntu enthusiasts.
[09:44] <yiga1> Sevensins: good
[09:44] <pcollins> if you're in prison
[09:44] <chewed-on> yiga1: what do you mean a year to kill ?
[09:44] <Nubbie> chewed-on: type sudo apt-get install nexuiz.
[09:44] <scottam> i decided i wanted a lower-maintenance distro, so i switched from gentoo to ubuntu
[09:44] <Nubbie> chewed-on: lol
[09:44] <ss> help! I cannot broswe an ubuntu server share via windows network
[09:44] <chewed-on> Nubbie: yes, I've taken that into consideration, otherwise I would've went into the Gentoo channel.
[09:44] <yiga1> chewed-on: this is not true for me, Gentoo is powerful but it takes a lot of time to learn how to set it up
[09:45] <ompaul> chewed-on, it takes time to get it working
[09:45] <yiga1> chewed-on: are you new to linux
[09:45] <Nubbie> chewed-on: gentoo is a non binary distribution, which means it takes days to install, because every single program must be configured, made, and then installed.
[09:45] <ubuntu__> is there a search function in ubuntu?
[09:45] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15761/
[09:45] <Jason_> the rest of them are on this one
[09:45] <yiga1> ubuntu_: what are you searching for?
[09:45] <chewed-on> Takes time to get it working ? What about Fedora Core 6 ?
[09:45] <chewed-on> Which one do you think is better out of the two ?
[09:45] <Nubbie> chewed-on: there is a binary installation method of gentoo, but then every advantage of using gentoo disappears.
[09:45] <ubuntu__> the bookmarks.html in a harddrive for firefox
[09:46] <ubuntu__> hopefully thats at least still there...
[09:46] <Nubbie> chewed-on: for simplicity's sake, i would go with any debian based system.
[09:46] <yiga1> chewed-on: yum package management not so good but it is a good distribution also
[09:46] <ss> help! I cannot broswe an ubuntu server share via windows network
[09:46] <Timeline> Nubbie: did you see my last message?
[09:46] <Nubbie> timline: nada.
[09:46] <Pathogen246> anyone know where I can get the gDesklet controls for Rhythmlet so I can control Rhythmbox?
[09:46] <Nubbie> timeline:
[09:46] <scottam> gentoo is great to learn lots of stuff to get your system working, and i sure learned a lot when i installed it, but as a far as running my main computer, i prefer not to have to compile every program i run (ie. kde, openoffice, etc.)
[09:46] <yiga1> ss: permissions, firewall, what type of error do you get
[09:46] <Timeline> Nubbie: only by typing sudo nautilus --no-desktop /mnt   Which I do not fully under why i must do that.
[09:46] <Nubbie> pathogen246: http://google.ca
[09:46] <ompaul> !samba > ss (ss read the message from the bot on how to set that up)
[09:46] <nu-> !fonts
[09:46] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:47] <Nubbie> timeline: i don't know why clam can't read anything in there.
[09:47] <Timeline> Hey wj32
[09:47] <yiga1> ubuntu__: locate bookmarks.html
[09:47] <Jason_> did you get that crimsun?
[09:47] <wj32> hi
[09:47] <pcollins> are any of the super-geniuses helping Jason_ ?
[09:47] <yiga1> ubuntu_: in terminal
[09:47] <Nubbie> !google
[09:47] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[09:47] <Jason_> i think so, im waiting a reply
[09:47] <ubuntu__> yigal: how can i search in a different drive?
[09:47] <scottam> thanks nubbie
[09:47] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: tried that, it only really told me what it does. My synaptic manager says it's installed, but the widgets don't control anything, says it's not playing even tho I have Rhythmbox running at the time
[09:48] <chewed-on> yiga1: I see that both Gentoo and Fedora have a package manager.
[09:48] <yiga1> google isn't so good for w3m web browser though
[09:48] <Nubbie> lol. see !google should say: try google before pestering #ubuntu members.
[09:48] <chewed-on> Gentoo: Emerge
[09:48] <chewed-on> Fedora: Yum
[09:48] <Timeline> wj32: You remember how you told me to read that ntfs drive last night?
[09:48] <ubuntu__> search bookmarks.html sda1?
[09:48] <wj32> Timeline: yep
[09:48] <chewed-on> What's the difference between the two beside the name ?
[09:48] <Sevensins> yiga1 it doesnt work....
[09:48] <Nubbie> Pathogen246: gdesklets is very dated. i would recommend using music-applet
[09:48] <yiga1> chewed-on: alost all linux distributions have a package manager but apt is better by far than most if not all
[09:48] <wj32> Timeline: night? where are you?
[09:48] <ss> !samba
[09:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:48] <chewed-on> Then . . .why don't I use Debian instead ? :)
[09:48] <Timeline> wj32: EST
[09:48] <scottam> wj32: i think he means 24 hours ago....and i agree "night"
[09:48] <Nubbie> chewed-on: you aren't very versed in linux i take it.
[09:48] <yiga1> Sevensins: did it work before?
[09:49] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: alright, I'll try that, sorry for pestering you
[09:49] <Nubbie> chewed-on: because debian's release schedule is ultra slow.
[09:49] <wj32> Timeline: im in australia.
[09:49] <Nubbie> pathogen246: i was joking.
[09:49] <wj32> Timeline: anyway, go on.
[09:49] <chewed-on> The linux book I have said "once you've tried Debian, you don't ever want to go back to the other Linux again"
[09:49] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: thanks tho, lol, i know ;)
[09:49] <Timeline> wj32: Any idea why clamav can't scan the NTFS drive?
[09:49] <Nubbie> pathogen246: i don't mind helping honest.
[09:49] <yiga1> Sevensins: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[09:49] <Sevensins> yeah but since i did the update from dapper to feisty it doesnt
[09:49] <wj32> Timeline: what error?
[09:49] <yiga1> Sevensins: try above
[09:49] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: just poking back, lol :)
[09:49] <yiga1> Sevensins: r u in GNOME?
[09:50] <Nubbie> chewed-on: ubuntu is essentially debian, only with packages released in the last decade ROFL :)
[09:50] <Sevensins> yiga1 right
[09:50] <eck> chewed-on: how old is that book?
[09:50] <yiga1> Sevensins: open up Volume Manager
[09:50] <Sevensins> is open
[09:50] <yiga1> good but everything is on, yes not mutes on anything
[09:50] <yiga1> Sevensins: ?
[09:51] <ubuntu__> yigal: um... how can i do the "locate" command on a specific drive? >_>
[09:51] <Sevensins> jep
[09:51] <chewed-on> eck:  um, . . . it's for Mandrake 9.0 or Red Hat 8.0 I think . . .
[09:51] <Timeline> wj32: clamscan -r /mnt results in can't open directory
[09:51] <Jason_> can i get any type of response from a helper who is looking through my pastebin?
[09:51] <chewed-on> ^.^!
[09:51] <scottam> jason_: sorry, i got no clue
[09:51] <eck> chewed-on: things have changed a lot since then :-)
[09:51] <xstream> ubuntu__, 'places' -> 'search for files'!?
[09:51] <Sevensins> yiga1 yes no mutes and nothing
[09:51] <Nubbie> red hat 8 ROFL.
[09:51] <Nubbie> :l
[09:51] <ompaul> Jason_, you have to tell people what the url is
[09:51] <yiga1> ubuntu_: you should use find instead: if you are looking for your bookmarks then issue the following "find ~ -name '*bookmarks.html*'
[09:51] <chewed-on> Ubuntu. . .
[09:52] <wj32> Timeline: does /mnt exist?
[09:52] <chewed-on> If I asked the same questions I think I'm going to get a "Gentoo" from the #gentoo channel.
[09:52] <eck> chewed-on: for one thing, ubuntu certainly wan't around
[09:52] <chewed-on> I don't think I can guess the answer for #fedora channel.
[09:52] <eck> or gentoo for that matter...
[09:52] <Timeline> wj32: Aww crap I'm a dumby, added sudo and it's working now, I think.
[09:52] <yiga1> Sevensins: is the volume on each control at raised more than halfway
[09:52] <Nubbie> chewed-on: go with ubuntu. obviously we should all be telling you to try ubuntu, because it is the best, and thats why we use it ;)
[09:52] <Killerkiwi> HELP - what do you do if lspci returns nothing?
[09:52] <chewed-on> :-P
[09:52] <scottam> timeline: you said you could browse /mnt right?
[09:52] <ubuntu__> thanks, i looked in the regular places xstream or else i wouldnt be asking, so stop ridiculing me, its annoying
[09:52] <eck> or fedora :-)
[09:52] <wj32> Timeline: yes, maybe /mnt's permissions have something to do with it
[09:52] <ompaul> chewed-on, so are you trying to troll ? ;-)
[09:52] <chewed-on> No.
[09:52] <Nubbie> chewed-on: beware of them fedora folks, they'll try to tell you that fedora is better than ubuntu :D
[09:52] <Sevensins> yiga1 answeris yes
[09:52] <rausb0> Killerkiwi: nothing? maybe /proc is not mounted
[09:52] <yiga1> chewed-on: why don't you want to use ubuntu?
[09:53] <Jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15761/
[09:53] <Nubbie> yiga1: high five :D
[09:53] <chewed-on> I'm trying to play games on my Fedora Core 6 but everytime I check wine games, i keep seeing "ubuntu works. . . ubuntu works. . . ubuntu works"
[09:53] <Timeline> scottam: Yes, but only with special nautilus command.
[09:53] <Nubbie> chewed-on: it does.
[09:53] <Killerkiwi> rausb0, how would i fix that?
[09:53] <ompaul> !behaviour
[09:53] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:53] <Nubbie> chewed-on: i play lots of games on ubuntu.
[09:53] <wj32> chewed-on: so...?
[09:53] <chewed-on> That's why I'm going around checking Debian base distributions.
[09:53] <yiga1> ok this is a bit more tricky but no matter go System->Preferences->Sound
[09:53] <rausb0> Killerkiwi: sudo mount -t proc proc /proc
[09:53] <scottam> timeline: or with the terminal after sudo i assume....but clamscan is workign now?
[09:53] <Timeline> scottam: Just using the file browser didn't work
[09:53] <Killerkiwi> rausb0, ta
[09:53] <Nubbie> chewed-on: and it's as easy as typing sudo apt-get install nexuiz neverball tuxracer.... etc.
[09:53] <xstream> ubuntu__, tried beagle?
[09:54] <chewed-on> Just gathering some information about Ubuntu and other distributions.
[09:54] <Nubbie> ubuntu__, or tracker...
[09:54] <wj32> rausb0: that proc stuff is kinda stupid. if proc isn't a file in the current dir, why use "proc"
[09:54] <scottam> distrowatch.com
[09:54] <ompaul> chewed-on, most hardware support ubuntu most arches debian most radical gNewSense
[09:54] <yiga1> ubuntu_: yes if you have a pretty fast system using Beagle is nice
[09:54] <wj32> rausb0: why not /dev/proc
[09:54] <chewed-on> Hm. . .
[09:54] <Nubbie> chewed-on: if you want to spend more time gaming, and less time messing with your system, use a debian based system.
[09:54] <chewed-on> which Ubuntu is the main one ?
[09:54] <eck> wj32: proc is not mounted at /dev/proc
[09:54] <ubuntu__> yigal: It still searchs the cd, and not the drive >_<
[09:54] <Sevensins> im using a soundblaster audigy soundcard ...maybe thatll help you help me yiga1
[09:54] <Timeline> scottam: All I know is wj32 told me to use sudo nautilus --no-desktop /mnt and that works, haven't found any other way to look at the drive.
[09:54] <scottam> proc should be at /proc
[09:55] <Nubbie> chewed-on: but don't use debian, it's packages are ancient.
[09:55] <wj32> eck: i know. i meant why not use /dev/proc as the source instead of proc
[09:55] <rausb0> wj32: proc is a pseudo-filesystem generated by the kernel
[09:55] <chewed-on> There are Ubuntu dapper, edgy and stuff
[09:55] <eck> wj32: because that isn't a device node
[09:55] <ompaul> Nubbie, etch is stable
[09:55] <rausb0> wj32: it is not a device
[09:55] <Timeline> scottam: And yes, seems to be scanning now
[09:55] <Nubbie> chewed-on: depends on whether or not you want to use gnome, KDE, or xfce
[09:55] <wj32> rausb0: but what if "proc" is a file.
[09:55] <Nubbie> ompaul: yeah, but still ancient.
[09:55] <chewed-on> Nubbie: well, Ubuntu is like the testing OS for Debian just like how Fedora is for Red Hat 9.0
[09:55] <wj32> rausb0: in the current dir. and its a device.
[09:55] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: Yo, installed music-applet...where'd it go?
[09:55] <yiga1> Sevensins: do you have the sound menu open?
[09:55] <eck> wj32: as rausb0 said, it is a pseudo filesystem. it is created and maintained by the kernel itself when you run a system
[09:55] <scottam> chewed-on: i thought that was what unstable was for
[09:55] <yiga1> Sevensins: I may as well ask have you tested this before?
[09:56] <crimsun> Jason_: looking now.
[09:56] <Nubbie> pathogen246: it's a panel applet, add it to your panel.
[09:56] <ompaul> chewed-on, you got the wrong end of the stick there
[09:56] <wj32> eck: again, i know.
[09:56] <chewed-on> Nubbie: I don't mind having all three desktop environment, just want one that works well with games and stuff.
[09:56] <wj32> eck: but when you mount it
[09:56] <eck> wj32: it maps data structures in the kernel to a filesystem you can look at and change
[09:56] <Pathogen246> Nubbie: Killer
[09:56] <yiga1> chewed-on: unstable is for breaking
[09:56] <rausb0> wj32: if "proc" is a file in the current dir, no one cares. tools using the proc filesystem look in /proc
[09:56] <wj32> eck: you go: mount -t proc proc /proc
[09:56] <rambo3> chewed-on, #ubuntu.offtopic
[09:56] <Sevensins> i did everything you said... so there is no need to ask
[09:56] <wj32> eck: but what if "proc" is a device in the current dir?
[09:56] <chewed-on> (stuff = graphics, multimedia video, music etc)
[09:56] <ss> help!  I can now browse the samba sever via windows using it's ip but still not via windows network neighborhood
[09:56] <Nubbie> chewed-on: install regular ubuntu then, gnome is nice looking (unlike kde :D) and is pretty much easier to use.
[09:56] <Sevensins> if i would leave st out it might be the solver
[09:56] <Sevensins> :)
[09:56] <yiga1> Sevensins: ps -A | grep alsa ?
[09:57] <chewed-on> Nubbie: yeah what is the normal ubuntu called ?
[09:57] <wj32> rausb0: but still, thats kinda a bad design. there shouldnt be any exceptions
[09:57] <rausb0> wj32: that wouldnt make a difference
[09:57] <crimsun> Jason_: try muting 'External Amplifier'
[09:57] <Sevensins> nothing
[09:57] <Nubbie> rambo3: he's seeing if ubuntu is what he wants to use.... he's also asking what version of ubuntu to install. please tell me how this is off topic.
[09:57] <ompaul> chewed-on, that is #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter you have strayed from the support path - Ubuntu's main distro is called funny enough Ubuntu
[09:57] <wj32> rausb0: thats why windows is bad. it has heaps of exceptions. "nul" is not a file. blabla bla
[09:57] <crimsun> Jason_: also, are you using analog speakers directly?
[09:57] <rausb0> wj32: the second "proc" in the mount command is not referring to a block device
[09:57] <eck> wj32: i don'tthink you _have_ to mount it at all
[09:57] <yiga1> Sevensins: you need to get alsa up then
[09:57] <Sevensins> yiga1 it gives nothing
[09:57] <rambo3> !ot | Nubbie
[09:57] <ubotu> Nubbie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:57] <yiga1> Sevensins: good then you need alsa and this is your problem
[09:57] <chewed-on> ompaul: where can I download it sir ?
[09:57] <Nubbie> ompaul: funny story, he didn't know that.
[09:58] <wj32> rausb0: yes but it could mean two things. proc as in the real /proc or proc as in ./proc
[09:58] <chewed-on> http://www.ubuntu.com/ ?
[09:58] <yiga1> Sevensins: sorry "most likely" your problem
[09:58] <chewed-on> Right
[09:58] <chewed-on> Ubuntu 6.10 :)
[09:58] <Jason_> how do i do that?
[09:58] <Sevensins> where shall i look for alsa?
[09:58] <ompaul> chewed-on, funny enough http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:58] <rausb0> wj32: there are several filesystem types you dont mount from a block device. sysfs, devpts, proc, ...
[09:58] <wj32> rausb0: thats bad. that is creating an exception just like nul and con and aux in windows is
[09:58] <Jason_> and does an analog speaker mean an internal speaker?
[09:58] <Nubbie> chewed-on: yes, 6.10 is what you want.
[09:58] <mojojojo_> hi, I installed gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-plugins, but mp3 files still don't work with rhytmbox
[09:58] <yiga1> Sevensins: aptitude search ~dalsa
[09:58] <mojojojo_> :(
[09:58] <chewed-on> Are you serious?
[09:58] <crimsun> Jason_: as long as you're not attempting to use the spdif output
[09:58] <chewed-on> 700 MB
[09:58] <chewed-on> Only!?
[09:58] <ubuntu__> yigal: i know youve given me to search commands to terminal, is there any other thing i can add to the command in order to search the harddrive that i want instead of searching only in the CD drive?
[09:59] <Nubbie> mojojo_: you should be installing gstreamer0.10 packages, as thats what ubuntu uses these days.
[09:59] <wj32> eck: of course not. it mounts it for you.
[09:59] <eck> wj32: usually you would be mounting proc to a chroot, right?
[09:59] <rausb0> wj32: no, with -t proc it is unambigous
[09:59] <ompaul> chewed-on, funny enough you get to use the internet to get the rest of the 20000 or so packages
[09:59] <chewed-on> I'm going to get a second opinion about Ubuntu from #blender
[09:59] <crimsun> Jason_: use alsamixer from a Terminal, or use the volume control after setting the preferences to show all controls
[09:59] <Nubbie> chewed-on: expect lots of downloading of packages later on though.
[09:59] <yiga1> ubuntu_: are  u using a live CD?
[09:59] <chewed-on> ompaul: it's just that when I downloaded Fedora Core 6 it was 3.9 or so GB.
[09:59] <ubuntu__> yigal: yes
[09:59] <wj32> rausb0: oh crap. didnt see the -t proc. nevermind
[09:59] <chewed-on> Yeah, I've downloaded over 200 updates on Fedora Core 6.
[09:59] <yiga1> ubuntu_: ok you have to mount your hd have you done this?
[09:59] <ompaul> chewed-on, you do one cd you install you get the rest from the internet using a package manager
[09:59] <crimsun> Sevensins: pastebin the requested info from the top portion of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems , then tell me the url
[09:59] <ubuntu__> yigal: yesh
[09:59] <wj32> rausb0: well i did, i didnt think it made any difference.
[09:59] <Timeline> Ok Now clamav just jammed up all of ubuntu live cd :P
[09:59] <mojojojo_> Nubbie: aaaahh, thanks :)
[10:00] <ubuntu__> thanks to nubbie's link
[10:00] <chewed-on> Is ubuntu secure ?
[10:00] <chewed-on> Does it use SELinux ?
[10:00] <eck> chewed-on: it does not
[10:00] <yiga1> ubuntu_: where is the partition you are looking for? what folder is it mounted on
[10:00] <Nubbie> chewed-on: ubuntu is great to install, but as a convienience of only being one cd, comes the inconvienience of having to download them all. but you'll also have the most up to date packages and security updates updating from the internet instead of a cd.
[10:00] <chewed-on> . . .
[10:00] <wj32> chewed-on: is Windows secure? does it use SELinux?
[10:00] <eck> chewed-on: realistically, redhat is the only thing that uses selinux
[10:00] <ubuntu__> its in Computer
[10:00] <pcollins> chewed-on is a bot
[10:00] <eck> well redhat/centos/fedora
[10:00] <Nubbie> chewed-on: yes ubuntu is secure. by default there are no open ports with a basic installation.
[10:00] <Jason_> ok and then?
[10:00] <wj32> eck: the NSA likes selinux
[10:01] <crimsun> Jason_: test playing music
[10:01] <wj32> lol NSAKEY
[10:01] <eck> wj32: and they use fedora
[10:01] <yiga1> ubuntu_: is the disk a windows disk or linux?
[10:01] <wj32> eck: didnt say they dont
[10:01] <Jason_> ok i muted external
[10:01] <Nubbie> wj32: all the more reason not to use it :L i live in canada and i'm even afraid of the NSA.
[10:01] <ubuntu__> yigal: windows
[10:01] <eck> chewed-on: if you want a distro with selinux support, use one of those
[10:01] <Jason_> and tested music and nothing
[10:01] <crimsun> Jason_: now mute 'IEC958'
[10:01] <wj32> Nubbie: the DMCA is invading into australia!
[10:01] <Sevensins> crimsun the link is  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15762/
[10:01] <wj32> lets not get offtopic
[10:01] <yiga1> ubuntu_: let us say you mounted the windows disk at /media/windows
[10:01] <Jason_> ok done
[10:01] <Nubbie> wj32: it's been in canada for at least 3-4 years.
[10:02] <Nubbie> wj32: but luckily all the judges in canada are pot smoking hippies.
[10:02] <Nubbie> :)
[10:02] <crimsun> Sevensins: err, that's not the output for which I'm looking
[10:02] <rausb0> Nubbie: lol
[10:02] <wj32> Nubbie: thats bad
[10:02] <chewed-on> eck: well if Ubuntu is debian base then I don't doubt it's strength.
[10:02] <chewed-on> Just curious.
[10:02] <wj32> apt is good
[10:02] <chewed-on> I'll download it anyhow.
[10:02] <wj32> better than rpm
[10:02] <Jason_> IT WORKS!!
[10:02] <yiga1> ubuntu_: then you will want to use find on this folder, if you can and it will take less time point the find command where you think the bookmarks are kept
[10:02] <Sevensins> crimsun wich command?
[10:02] <scottam> you can download the dvd if you like too
[10:02] <Nubbie> wj32: canadian judges don't often bend to foreign laws, even the US laws.
[10:02] <crimsun> Jason_: you're welcome.
[10:02] <Jason_> thank you genious!
[10:02] <Timeline> Nubbie/wj32/scottam: Ok clamav just jammed up ubuntu, so I'm going to go to bed.
[10:02] <pcollins> crimsun you rock
[10:02] <wj32> I always like hearing IT WORKS!! from newbs
[10:03] <scottam> timeline 'night
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: livecds are not good for doing stuff like that.
[10:03] <Timeline> Nubbie/wj32/scottam: Thanks for your help/
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: there's only so much memory available.
[10:03] <crimsun> Sevensins: amixer, cat /proc/asound/... , etc.
[10:03] <ubuntu__> yigal: cant i just use the find command to look in the entire harddrive in general?
[10:03] <wj32> Timeline: IT WORKS.
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: i'm sorry you wasted so much time.
[10:03] <wj32> with ubuntu im less productive
[10:03] <Nubbie> timeline: there are norton antivirus livecds you could use.
[10:03] <wj32> too much customization available
[10:03] <ubuntu__> yigal: because if i knew where it were, i wouldnt be trying to use a command to try and find it xD
[10:03] <mojojojo_> Nubbie:  do you know which one of the current gsteamer packages is for mp3?
[10:04] <friedo> is there a freshports.org like website for Ubuntu?
[10:04] <rausb0> "if a train station is where trains stop, a workstation is where..."
[10:04] <Timeline> Nubbie: Really? Free?
[10:04] <wj32> !getdeb
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdeb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <Nubbie> mojojojo_: read this, and install everything on this page that you need.
[10:04] <wj32> !getdebs
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getdebs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <wj32> damn
[10:04] <Nubbie> !mp3 > mojojojo_
[10:04] <Nubbie> wj32: what are you trying to do?
[10:05] <Nubbie> friedo: no ubuntu supports it's packages in repositories.
[10:05] <wj32> Nubbie: show friedo where more ubuntu packages are. i dont acutally know what freshports.org has
[10:05] <eck> friedo: basically everything is maintained by the ubuntu repositories
[10:05] <chewed-on> Uh. . . which one should I download ?
[10:05] <chewed-on> Desktop Edition or Server edition ?
[10:05] <Nubbie> friedo: they are browsable on the internet and also in Synaptic.
[10:05] <eck> friedo: there are third party repositories, but they are not used extensivley
[10:05] <wj32> chewed-on: desktop
[10:05] <yiga1> ubuntu_: this will take a long time. but it will work.  if you type "sudo updatedb" in a terminal then you will have to wait a while - maybe 1/2 an hour if your windows partition is mounted.  then you can type "locate bookmarks.html" and it will find your bookmarks
[10:05] <chewed-on> Ubuntu 6.10 or Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[10:06] <Barracuda`zZzz> Is there any .NET IDE for Ubuntu?
[10:06] <yiga1> ubuntu_: the windows partition needs to be mounted
[10:06] <Nubbie> ubuntu_: do you still have your windows installeD?
[10:06] <wj32> yiga1: then why not do a linear search (more like a logarithmic, NTFS has b+trees) instead of building an index and searching just once?
[10:06] <Nubbie> ubuntu_: because there is another way to do it.
[10:06] <eck> chewed-on: i would go with 6.10, it depend on whether you want the newer one or the older one
[10:06] <mojojojo_> Nubbie:  thanks
[10:06] <friedo> thanks. I've been using dpkg-based distros since ages but I'm kinda new to Ubuntu and was looking for a website (not inside Ubuntu) to see for instance what packages got recently updated or what the latest alsa-driver package is
[10:06] <chewed-on> ?
[10:06] <eck> 6.06 LTS is the "long term support" version
[10:06] <Nubbie> mojojojo_: no problem.
[10:07] <chewed-on> What do they mean by support ?
[10:07] <Timeline> Nubbie: Where can I get one of those norton live CDs? are they free?
[10:07] <yiga1> chewed-on: use 6.10 because 6.06 is rather old now
[10:07] <crimsun> friedo: don't look at alsa-driver; I only update the kernel-side portion in linux-source-2.6.x
[10:07] <Hobbsee> chewed-on: security fixes only, for fixes for majorly broken stuff
[10:07] <chewed-on> OK
[10:07] <eck> chewed-on: normally releases are supported for 18 months, the LTS version is something like 3-5 years
[10:07] <ubuntu__> yigal: yesh, its installed; i dont care how long it takes as long as i can save something from this mess... (screwed up registry.. somehow everything in mydocuments deleted for no reason >_<)
[10:07] <Nubbie> friedo: the latest stuff will be available in synaptic, and update manager will take care of it all for you.
[10:07] <wj32> Timeline: just get a trial.
[10:07] <Sevensins> okay fine i must have done st important what ....dont ask me but it needs a restart now... we ll talk later ...thank you for your tipps so far crimsun
[10:07] <chewed-on> I see.
[10:07] <crimsun> Sevensins: ok
[10:07] <eck> (depending on whether you are using it as a desktop or server)
[10:07] <Hobbsee> chewed-on: not suitable if you want the latest apps, or libraries
[10:07] <yiga1> ubuntu_: ok then you know what to do, it will work
[10:07] <rausb0> eck: that still does not explain what "support" means
[10:07] <wj32> chewed-on: support means after support is gone, no more package updates for your version
[10:08] <Nubbie> timeline: windows is great when it's working fine, but fixing it is a big hassle.
[10:08] <Hobbsee> rausb0:  security fixes only, for fixes for majorly broken stuff
[10:08] <ubuntu__> yesh >_<!!!
[10:08] <ubuntu__> yigal: it took like 2minutes, it worked :D
[10:08] <rausb0> Hobbsee: thanks
[10:08] <friedo> Nubbie: is there any way to see updates on a website, though? I know I could just click on Synaptic once I'm on my Ubuntu machine
[10:08] <chewed-on> So that means I have to download the next version of Ubuntu, correct ?
[10:08] <Nubbie> friedo: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <ubuntu__> yigal: thank you very much, sir, now to see if i can salvage anything else...
[10:08] <wj32> chewed-on: wait until april19
[10:08] <chewed-on> ?
[10:08] <chewed-on> Ubuntu Studios ?
[10:09] <chewed-on> :-)
[10:09] <Timeline> Nubbie: I agree, but it pays well to try :)
[10:09] <eck> chewed-on: normally releases are every six months, normal releases are supported 18 months so you could skip two releases and still be ok
[10:09] <chewed-on> I heard there's going to be Ubuntu studios coming out on April 2007.
[10:09] <wj32> Microsoft Open License (tm)
[10:09] <Barracuda`zZzz> Does anyone know a .Net IDE for Linux/Ubuntu?
[10:09] <yiga1> ubuntu_: after the database has been completed you should be able to find anything you can give a name for
[10:09] <Nubbie> timeline: ooohhh i see, you're making a little cash for this favour i see :D
[10:09] <wj32> Barracuda`zZzz: MonoDevelop
[10:09] <Nubbie> timeline: i don't blame you.
[10:09] <galorin> When trying to start mysqld I get : [ERROR]  Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Incorrect file format 'host' What do I need to do to fix this so I don't lose my other databases?
[10:09] <WaZ`> a .net IDE for linux?
[10:10] <Barracuda`zZzz> yes
[10:10] <wj32> galorin: i've had that error. i just removed my database and started from scratch
[10:10] <WaZ`> I doubt that exists
[10:10] <wj32> galorin: sorry :)
[10:10] <chewed-on> wj32: what's happening on April 19 ?
[10:10] <scottam> 7
[10:10] <wj32> chewed-on: likely feisty release
[10:10] <WaZ`> .Net = windows, it's not portable
[10:10] <scottam> 7.04 release
[10:10] <chewed-on> ?
[10:10] <chewed-on> Why's that ?
[10:10] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: since microsoft doesn't release .net source, MONO was created as a partial replacement. it works very well.
[10:10] <eck> chewed-on: fedora works the same way, but releases are supported only 12 months (actually for the length of two fedora releases)
[10:10] <yiga1> me love feisty
[10:10] <rausb0> chewed-on: it is the release date for ubuntu 7.04 (feisty fawn)
[10:10] <aa^way> hm how to set classpath for Java and javac?
[10:10] <chewed-on> Right. . .
[10:10] <Timeline> Nubbie: I'll probably have to format this thing anyway, but thought I would try the virus scanner.
[10:10] <chewed-on> OK, I'll wait :)
[10:10] <wj32> WaZ`: wrong, the whole point of .NET is to be portable. well, MS says that
[10:11] <chewed-on> Almost about to click the download button hehe.
[10:11] <Nubbie> that and MONO applications can run with .NET in windows.
[10:11] <WaZ`> wj32: yeah MS "portable"
[10:11] <galorin> wj32 ok.. can't I just drop the data from /var/lib/mysql/$DATABASE back and tell mysql that it's there somehow?
[10:11] <yiga1> .NET compatible for who
[10:11] <wj32> Nubbie: yes, that fact is pretty weird.
[10:11] <Nubbie> so basically MONO > .NET
[10:11] <valehru> chewed-on, bugfixes, releases etc..
[10:11] <wj32> galorin: doesn't dropping remove?
[10:12] <wj32> galorin: i don't know. i'm not an expert on mysql
[10:12] <Timeline> Nubbie: At least I know I can extract the data off the drive with ubuntu and a USB stick before I format
[10:12] <Nubbie> mysql is no fun to work with.
[10:12] <Nubbie> timeline: yeah at least you have that. and you should still get paid for doing that too :D
[10:12] <chewed-on> What's new in Ubuntu 7 ?
[10:12] <galorin> I assumed you meant an apt-get --purge and reinstall.
[10:12] <Timeline> Nubbie: by the hour ;)
[10:13] <wj32> galorin: yep
[10:13] <wj32> galorin: i searched google, no answers
[10:13] <rausb0> chewed-on: i think #ubuntu+1 can answer that
[10:13] <Nubbie> chewed-on: ubuntu 7.04 has newer packages, optional desktop effects via compiz installed by default, and better artwork. as well as X.org 7.2 and bleeding kernels.
[10:13] <ubuntu__> yigal: well thank you again, i now need to redo all my projects tonight weee~ T_T
[10:13] <lomez> hey, anyone here? i have a question somewhat non-ubuntu related
[10:13] <wj32> galorin: what file system do you use?
[10:13] <chewed-on> Sounds good.
[10:14] <Timeline> Nubbie: Thing is I hate formatting becuase it's almost like the easy way out, the problem won.
[10:14] <galorin> I always google first.  It seems like a problem without a real fix.  Guess I need to remember to back up all my databases then...
[10:14] <ubuntu__> laters mates :x
[10:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: bleeding kernels :)) you mean bleeding edge kernels
[10:14] <Nubbie> lomez: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <lomez> ok, thanks
[10:14] <Nubbie> rausb0: well a couple days ago they were bleeding thats for sure.
[10:14] <wj32> galorin: what fs?
[10:14] <WaZ`> Nubbie: lol
[10:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: hehe
[10:14] <Nubbie> rausb0: i'm just glad i don't have a SATA drive.
[10:14] <rausb0> Nubbie: oh yes, the sata issues...
[10:14] <wj32> galorin: please. i need the info :)
[10:15] <rausb0> Nubbie: i dont have sata either
[10:15] <Nubbie> i have sata on board, but never splurged for a new hard drive to use it.
[10:15] <galorin> xfs.  Already went through a xfs_repair because multiple power outages played havoc with my system.
[10:15] <Nubbie> why are you using XFS?
[10:15] <andres> #ubuntu-es
[10:15] <galorin> mysql didn't survive
[10:15] <wj32> galorin: GREAT! we have a connection. i used xfs too
[10:15] <wj32> galorin: XFS blanks unwritten extents.
[10:15] <Nubbie> XFS is journalled?
[10:15] <eck> Nubbie: yes
[10:16] <rausb0> Nubbie: afaik yes
[10:16] <lomez>  i use linux pretty much exclusively, but all my media files (music, movies, tv, etc.) is stored on my external hard drive
[10:16] <Nubbie> but still messes up on powerfailures.
[10:16] <wj32> galorin: which means if mysql was writing to your database and your system crashed, your db is now filled with nulls
[10:16] <lomez> its 120gb, usb-powered, my older brother (an IT guy) told me that formatted as fat32 (which it is currently) will cut down on its life
[10:16] <lomez> is that true?
[10:16] <eck> Nubbie: actually, kernel.org is planning on moving to xfs (may have done so already)
[10:16] <galorin> Yes, it's journalled, and a very mature filesystem at that.
[10:16] <rausb0> Nubbie: thats why i stick to ext3
[10:16] <Nubbie> lomez: as long as it supports usb mass storage spec, it will work with ubuntu.
[10:16] <wj32> galorin: check your db using a hex editor. check if its filled with zeros
[10:16] <Nubbie> eck: are you joking?
[10:17] <wj32> xfs is very high performance
[10:17] <WaZ`> lomez: fat32 shortens HDs lifes?
[10:17] <wj32> although not for small files.
[10:17] <lomez> right, but im saying will keeping at as fat32 lessen its life? i want to keep it both linux/windows so i can share my stuff with friends if need be
[10:17] <WaZ`> thats a new one
[10:17] <wj32> i dont see why they wouldnt switch to reiser
[10:17] <galorin> wj32, never used a hex editor before.. what program would I use?
[10:17] <wj32> galorin: ghex2
[10:17] <wj32> galorin: in the resps
[10:17] <Nubbie> lomez: and yeah, NTFS and FAT partitions tend to fragment more, making your hard drive have to work harder to find all your data, and EXT3 tends to write things in big chunks all together, no fragmentation, making it easier on your drive.
[10:17] <lomez> ah, thanks
[10:17] <wj32> XFS has the least fragmentation
[10:17] <Nubbie> lomez: so there is some truth to what your friend said.
[10:17] <lomez> is there an EXT3 support in Windows?
[10:17] <wj32> XFS has this thing called delayed allocation
[10:18] <Nubbie> lomez: it's prbably negligible though.
[10:18] <Barracuda`zZzz> is possible to emulate Visual Studio on Ubuntu, using Wine, or something like that?
[10:18] <wj32> which makes it even more prone to I-like-filling-files-with-zeros
[10:18] <Nubbie> lomez: not by windows, but yes there is 3rd party support.
[10:18] <lomez> ah, ok. many thanks!!
[10:18] <eck> Nubbie: here isthe article about why kernel.org is moving to xfs http://lwn.net/Articles/216948/
[10:18] <theone> @lomez: there is an EXt2 driver for winnt, 2k xp
[10:18] <WaZ`> Nubbie: I think MS has unixutils that can read ext2/3
[10:18] <rausb0> Nubbie: but thats only ext2 support, isnt it?
[10:18] <Nubbie> lomez: if you plan on using the drive with windows, i'd stick with FAT32/NTFS.
[10:18] <galorin> need to install it, running xubuntu
[10:18] <Nubbie> waz`: when has windows supported anything related to unix/linux?
[10:19] <lomez> well i primarily use ubuntu, probably 95% of the time. i just want to keep it Windows-r/wr so i can connect to to friends computers
[10:19] <Nubbie> rausb0: no i had ext3 support when i used linux.
[10:19] <theone> which will be able to read and write ext2 and ext3, but as it is an ext2 you'll miss the journalling functions when usign it with win
[10:19] <WaZ`> Nubbie: don't ask me, I don't have windows
[10:19] <theone> WaZ
[10:19] <rausb0> Nubbie: ext3 including writing or just read only?
[10:19] <Nubbie> waz`: lol.
[10:19] <Nubbie> rausb0: i think it may have been read only.
[10:19] <Ayabara> I use picasa to edit pics and set iptc captions. I have problems with it not showing me the nordic letter  (the a with a circle above it) in my folder names. anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:19] <Barracuda`zZzz> is possible to emulate Visual Studio on Ubuntu, using Wine, or something like that?  :P
[10:19] <wj32> galorin: any luck with hexeditor?
[10:20] <lomez> did you check the Wine database?
[10:20] <Nubbie> but for his use, i think readonly would be fine. but the advantages are so non-existant he should stick with FAT32.
[10:20] <theone> Barracuda`zZzz: appdb.winehq.org
[10:20] <makuseru> when is feisty going ot be out?
[10:20] <Nubbie> lomez: stick with whatever your drive is already using.
[10:20] <rausb0> makuseru: april 19th
[10:20] <Nubbie> !feisty | makuseru
[10:20] <ubotu> makuseru: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:20] <lomez> thanks
[10:20] <Nubbie> lomez: because installing 3rd party software on your friend's computers is no fun.
[10:21] <Nubbie> lomez :)
[10:21] <lomez> barracuda, Visual Studio has been rated as Bronze on Gentoo for wine. so im guessing it may run, but its probably going to be buggy
[10:21] <lomez> true true
[10:21] <galorin> wj32 the 'host' table in question is filled with zeros
[10:22] <wj32> galorin: yep. thats it. your db is now officially dead.
[10:22] <Barracuda`zZzz> lomez, ok! thank you!
[10:22] <wj32> galorin: wait
[10:22] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: if you are truly concerned about having portable applications, i would make the switch to mono.
[10:22] <lomez> also if you want to be a bit insane, you could always emulate windows with VMWare or something
[10:23] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: banshee, a project i'm very familiar with, is written in Mono, and is currently being ported to windows no problem. windows applications written mono could be just as easily ported to linux in the same fashion.
[10:23] <galorin> Shouldn't I be able to use mysql_create_system_tables or whatever it's called?
[10:23] <galorin> can't make it any more dead...
[10:23] <wj32> galorin: wait more
[10:24] <theone> galorin: back it up using mysqldump on commandline.
[10:24] <eck> Nubbie: there are some caveats, specifically if you use winforms
[10:24] <wj32> galorin: what is the host table meant to contain/
[10:24] <galorin> theone, mysqldump requires a running server.  I don't have one of those.
[10:24] <WaZ`> Nubbie: Mono is an awefull name for an IDE though
[10:24] <wj32> galorin: mine is empty
[10:24] <theone> galorin: oh, sry.
[10:24] <galorin> wj32, the host table I think is the hostname of the system that the server is running on.
[10:24] <wj32> galorin: maybe i could send you my host table?
[10:25] <Nubbie> waz`: are you concerned about the name over it's function? mono is C##, lets just call it that.
[10:25] <wj32> galorin: again, my host table is blank
[10:25] <galorin> are you checking host.MYI or another table?
[10:26] <Nubbie> eck: a small issue compared to if you were to convert .NET to mono.
[10:26] <Barracuda`zZzz> Nubbie, I work with .NET/C#, and I want to change my system to Ubuntu, but I have this "little" problem... called Visual Studio.
[10:26] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: what's the problem?
[10:26] <wj32> galorin: i'm checking the host table using MySQL Query Browser
[10:26] <Nubbie> baracuda`zzzz: locked into a proprietary program are we?? heheh.
[10:26] <Barracuda`zZzz> my system, I mean, my Workstation. I can't change the server ( W2k3S).
[10:26] <oxbat> hello
[10:26] <oxbat> what's the time?
[10:27] <galorin> Ah, I wonder...
[10:27] <Barracuda`zZzz> The problem is the IDE.
[10:27] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: maybe mono-develop will work for you.
[10:27] <Nubbie> i don't know.
[10:27] <wj32> select * from mysql.host reveals: "Empty set (0.00 sec)"
[10:27] <wj32> galorin: would you like my host table?
[10:27] <oxbat> what's the time in your area?
[10:28] <wj32> why not give it a try?
[10:28] <galorin> As long as it arrives in a format I can use, sure
[10:28] <eck> Barracuda`zZzz: afaik there isn't really anything in the linux world that approaches visual studio.... maybe eclipse
[10:29] <Nubbie> `tis 4:28A over here.
[10:29] <Barracuda`zZzz> eck, I'm searching for an eclipse plugin for .Net/C#, right now. :)
[10:29] <wj32> galorin: there are three files related to the host table. which ones are blank?
[10:29] <MolePrince> !feisty
[10:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:29] <Nubbie> i have some major insomnia, and i just had a huge ukrainian easter dinner, so my stomach is churning.
[10:29] <Barracuda`zZzz> I think Mono-Develop doesn't have... almost any features that I'm used in VStudio.
[10:29] <MolePrince> !release
[10:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:29] <jandro> Good morning from Spain. I've just installed network-manager-gnome, but it doesn't detect any available network. My card uses ipw2200 and works fine. How can I make it work?
[10:30] <eck> Barracuda`zZzz: but i am just a simple vim user
[10:30] <wj32> galorin: ?
[10:31] <galorin> sorry, not familiar with sending stuff through IRC
[10:31] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: well, you could always run a virtual machine.
[10:31] <phobos> jandro, did you use the latest driver?
[10:31] <wj32> galorin: no, could you answer my question? which of the three files are blank?
[10:32] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: i'd say if visual studio is the only thing holding you back, it might be tolerable to use in Qemu or VMware.
[10:32] <wj32> galorin: theres host.frm, host.myd, host.myi. which ones are blank
[10:32] <galorin> it's the host .MYI and host.MYD
[10:32] <wj32> galorin: ok. get my .tar.gz
[10:32] <phobos> i had a problem with network-manager myself and stumbled accross some posts from people having problems with their ipw2200
[10:32] <jandro> phobos: how can i see if it is the lastest driver?
[10:32] <galorin> I've also got a 3 year old demanding attention, and kids shows... can't get them without the databases.
[10:33] <phobos> jandro, maybe the best thing you can do is google for your problem
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: you're using myth?
[10:33] <galorin> Nubbie, yep
[10:33] <wj32> galorin: what?
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: and shame on you for putting computers before your children :D
[10:33] <jandro> phobos, ok, thanks, i'll have a look
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: lol. well aren't the files still on your computer?
[10:33] <Nubbie> galorin: and usable?
[10:33] <Barracuda`zZzz> Nubbie, I think its the way... I'm gonna try using vmware/qemu.
[10:34] <yur1> ikonia: Hi! I guess you don't remember me (a newbie asked you about PXE boot), but i'm back here to thank for your support...
[10:34] <wj32> galorin: heres another link: http://wj32.50webs.com/files/host.tar.gz
[10:34] <ferronica> Can we make Ascii word art
[10:34] <Barracuda`zZzz> Thank you for the help! :)
[10:34] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: maybe you could convince your employers to consider mono.
[10:34] <ferronica> in ubuntu 6.10
[10:34] <wj32> galorin: tell me when you've got the file
[10:34] <galorin> files are there, but the recorded shows have names like<PHONE_NUMBER>07.avi
[10:34] <Nubbie> barracuda`zzzz: good luck, have fun with ubuntu.
[10:34] <ferronica> Can we make Ascii word art in ubuntu 6.10?
[10:34] <wj32> galorin; remember, only replace the host.myi and the host.myd
[10:35] <Nubbie> ferronica: yeah there is a plugin for mplayer.
[10:35] <wj32> galorin: tell me if it works
[10:35] <Nubbie> ferronica: it's quite fun.
[10:35] <Raubkopierer> Hi.. I have a problem with ndiswrapper... I installed the drivers but I haven't a device called wlan0 in ifconfig
[10:36] <wj32> galorin?
[10:36] <rambo3> Raubkopierer, eth1 ?
[10:36] <galorin> wj32, it wasn't happy with the transfer.. want to try again?
[10:36] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: man i told you the USB dongles for wifi are not worth the plastic they're made from.
[10:36] <wj32> galorin: http://wj32.50webs.com/files/host.tar.gz
[10:36] <saispo> hi
[10:36] <saispo> flash and java work on 64bits architecture ?
[10:36] <wj32> Tag.
[10:36] <wj32> Ya.
[10:37] <saispo> natively or with nspluginwrapper ?
[10:37] <Raubkopierer> rambo3: nope
[10:37] <wj32> saispo: Ich wei nicht.
[10:38] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: so what?
[10:38] <wj32> galorin: works?
[10:38] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: i would personally just spend $10 and get a card that works without hassles.
[10:39] <galorin> same problem, but this time for the "user" table.  I don't think that one will be as easy to fix.
[10:39] <wj32> galorin: nope.
[10:39] <wj32> galorin: wait.
[10:39] <galorin> waiting
[10:39] <ZPM> ok im not sure weather to ask this here or in kubuntu because im using KDE but my distro is Xubuntu, when i first started using KDE all the screensavers were there and they worked. now (and i dont know when they did) they arent working and they dont even appear at all in the control center?
[10:40] <barata> hallo, anybody uses wacom graphire4?
[10:40] <Nubbie> ZPM: you're using kde on an xubuntu machine?
[10:40] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: only when it doesn't work
[10:41] <ZPM> ya its my first linux OS and i have a lower end PC so i installed xubuntu then installed gnome and kde to check them out
[10:41] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: i thought it wasn't working, and that you couldn't get it to work with ndiswrapper. how could it not work any more?
[10:41] <Raubkopierer> my english is so bad >.<
[10:41] <anandanbu> does anyone know how to change the permissions of the /var/www to add our contents
[10:41] <wj32> galorin: this might take a while./
[10:41] <Nubbie> ZPM: fair enough.
[10:41] <ceeg> Regarding the usage of the Ubuntu name and the Ubuntu logo. Are they free to use/modify for non profit purposes? Where is the licensing information?
[10:41] <densin> if apti-get somepackage and wrong setup, how to setup it again?
[10:41] <ZPM> Nubbie: so any idea on why they disappeared?
[10:41] <barata> never mind ... it works well! http://rene.holodeck1.com/new-toy-wacom-graphire4-tablet/2007/02/02/
[10:41] <Raubkopierer> there are some people that got it working... Nubbie
[10:42] <galorin> I don't think I've got a while.. what would we be doing?  hex editing and the like?  Maybe I can just re-create my system tables and my users... re-make the mythtv database and drop the old backup into it.
[10:42] <Nubbie> raubkopierer: then you should follow the guides i know some of them have  written. thats the only way to get it to work.
[10:43] <anandanbu> how do i host a wordpress in my system i have apache and mysql installed
[10:43] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: I follow the guides.. everything is the same... only wlan0 isn't where...
[10:43] <Raubkopierer> *there
[10:43] <Raubkopierer> >.<
[10:43] <ferronica> Nubbie: mplayer?
[10:44] <Nubbie> ferronica: yes google mplayer plus whatever it is you were trying to do. there is a plugin for it.
[10:44] <ferronica> Nubbie: mplayer is for playing movies not for ascii maker
[10:44] <eck> anandanbu: just a guess -- apt-get install wordpress
[10:44] <Nubbie> ferronica: i think you can export frames of acsii though, thats the thing.
[10:44] <anandanbu> no how to i run it in my system
[10:44] <Raubkopierer> Nubbie: http://sannremy.free.fr/ubuntu/index.php?2007/02/10/2-installation-du-dongle-wifi-netgear-wg111t
[10:45] <anandanbu> iam unable to edit the www folder in the /var
[10:45] <Nubbie> ferronica: aka: view picture in mplayer using acsii plugin, and then save the frame to a text.
[10:45] <Nubbie> ferronica: i don't know if it's possible, but i was just trying to point you in the direction of what i though COULD be possible.
[10:46] <jandro> phobos: i've been looking through google but i feel i little lost among all the pages that appear, do you know any howto or tutorial about howto make it work?
[10:46] <aa^way> what is a location for Desktop ?
[10:46] <jandro> I am using edgy
[10:47] <aa^way> full location, like is it /usr/erti(my username)/Desktop or witchone?
[10:47] <Nubbie> jandro: make what work?
[10:47] <Nubbie> aa^way: ~./Desktop
[10:47] <jandro> Nubbie: to detect and connect networks i mean
[10:47] <Nubbie> aa^way: /home/<user>/Desktop
[10:47] <jandro> network-manager-gnome
[10:47] <Nubbie> jandro: is your network using DHCP?
[10:48] <ZPM> i take it no one knows why my screensavers dissapeared =}
[10:48] <Nubbie> ZPM: nope.
[10:48] <Nubbie> ZPM: :o
[10:48] <jandro> Nubbie: yes, it is. I can scan networks from iwlist but not from this desktop applet
[10:48] <ZPM> v_v
[10:48] <Nubbie> jandro: i dunno man.
[10:49] <wj32> galorin: galorin: http://wj32.50webs.com/files/user.tar.gz
[10:49] <wj32> galorin: user: root2 password: password
[10:49] <ferronica> Nubbie: i anna creat ascii
[10:49] <jandro> Nubbie: ok, thanks
[10:49] <ferronica> Nubbie: like  we find in .nfo
[10:49] <wj32> galorin: you there?
[10:50] <galorin> yeah.  I'm being pulled away by my kid.  LOL
[10:50] <wj32> refer to my above posts
[10:50] <Nubbie> ferronica: google linux acsii generator or something.
[10:50] <Nubbie> ferronica: i dunno what else to tell you.
[10:50] <wj32> galorin: tell me when done. this time replace all three files
[10:52] <galorin> wj32, I just did a check, and most of the .MYI files are blank, so I'd need to get your entire mysql database off you, and twek it.  That's a heapload of work.  I'm going to try removing it and reinstalling.  Won't take but a moment.
[10:52] <san_diego_guy> hi
[10:52] <rausb0> ferronica: you could use netpbm to convert a pixel file to ascii, but it is not exactly what you want i guess
[10:53] <wj32> stupid xfs
[10:53] <wj32> anyway, always have backups
[10:53] <Nubbie> galorin: thats what i would've done from the start. you should maybe delete the mysql table for myth completely beforehand though.
[10:53] <RawSewage> does anyone know of a program that will search and replace text in multiple files
[10:53] <Nubbie> galorin: that way when myth is being reinstalled, mysql won't complain about the table already existing.
[10:53] <ferronica> rausb0: you mean photo file
[10:53] <Nubbie> rawsewage: grep <--
[10:54] <RawSewage> Nubbie, ty
[10:54] <rausb0> RawSewage: find and sed
[10:54] <Nubbie> sed
[10:54] <Nubbie> thats what i meant
[10:54] <Nubbie> :D
[10:54] <galorin> well, I'm going to see how it goes.  Worst case scenario, I lose 80+ gigs of recorded TV.
[10:54] <Nubbie> galorin: how is that!
[10:54] <wj32> galorin: what? your tv DATA is in your database?
[10:54] <wj32> wtf
[10:54] <RawSewage> rausb0,  find and sed?
[10:54] <Nubbie> galorin: i doubt that highly.
[10:54] <rausb0> RawSewage: yes
[10:55] <Nubbie> galorin: have another look around your filesystem.
[10:55] <galorin> no, just the data that tells me what weirdly named .avi file is which tv show.
[10:55] <RawSewage> rausb0, what is that
[10:55] <rausb0> RawSewage: standard unix command line tools
[10:55] <wj32> galorin: oh
[10:55] <rausb0> RawSewage: find searches file using a given pattern and sed can replace regular expressions
[10:56] <Nubbie> galorin: so not all is lost....
[10:56] <Nubbie> galorin: you just lose the metadata off it.
[10:56] <wj32> galorin: dont they have the metadata inside the avi files?
[10:56] <Nubbie> wj32: i doubt that.
[10:56] <RawSewage> what about grep
[10:57] <Nubbie> wj32: avi's are just raw videos, i don't think avi's have metadata support.
[10:57] <RawSewage> I want to replace strings in batch files
[10:57] <Nubbie> rawsewage: i'm an idiot, you want to use find and sed like somebody else said.
[10:57] <wj32> Nubbie: avi is a container format. it definitely supports metadata
[10:57] <galorin> with about 10 different shows, each with 6 episodes each.. plus a few Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli films recorded off the tv...
[10:57] <Nubbie> wj32: mmmmkay
[10:57] <RawSewage> Nubbie, ok
[10:58] <Nubbie> rawsewage: man find and man sed <----
[10:58] <rausb0> RawSewage: first make a copy of your batch files and try to work on them so you dont mess things up
[10:58] <wj32> Nubbie: google "avi metadata"
[10:58] <muryoutaisuu> hey im a complete novice at everything and was wondering what i would need to do to get the experience in program to actually help with development
[10:58] <Nubbie> wj32: thanks but i'm not that interested :) i believe you.
[10:58] <rausb0> RawSewage: copy them to a separate directory
[10:58] <RawSewage> rausb0, can you give me an example line if I want to replace  Dog with Cat in  all files in folder Test
[10:58] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: file bugs.
[10:58] <rausb0> RawSewage: okay
[10:58] <wj32> muryoutaisuu: learn assembly. then c. then c++. then c#
[10:58] <bergntu> hi everyone, can i find here help about wifi usb adapter US Robotics 805422 in Ubuntu 7.04?
[10:59] <muryoutaisuu> wj32: ok where can i go to learn those?
[10:59] <wj32> !c++ | muryoutaisuu
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: or if you have decent digital art skills you could maybe help out with artwork teams. or if you speak a non-english language, you could help out with translations
[10:59] <wj32> muryoutaisuu: actually, learn python
[10:59] <rausb0> RawSewage: find Test -type f -exec sed -i~ 's/Dog/Cat/g' {} \;
[10:59] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: check ubuntu forums, people would be glad to point you in the right directions there.
[10:59] <RawSewage> rausb0, thx a lot
[11:00] <wj32> muryoutaisuu: but mainly, refer to Nubbie
[11:00] <delcoyote> muryoutaisuu: google "C course" "python course"
[11:00] <Hellevator> wj32, I disagree. Why would someone learn assembly first? There is a high chance they will get discouraged and give up.
[11:00] <galorin> ok, I think it works.  Just need to make sure my shows are still there... hang on.
[11:00] <yur1> muryoutaisuu: python and java are good options!
[11:00] <Nubbie> hellevator: python is not assembly?
[11:00] <wj32> Hellevator: huh? assembly is the simplest complete language i have ever seen
[11:00] <dunstabulos> !wifi | bergntu
[11:00] <ubotu> bergntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <Nubbie> ohh sorry hellevator.
[11:01] <rausb0> RawSewage: the -i~ option of sed makes backup copies of the files changed, appending ~ to the file name
[11:01] <Hellevator> wj32, complete.. ok. but not practical for new programmers.
[11:02] <RawSewage> rausb0, ok cool
[11:02] <wj32> Hellevator: completely practical. it is very very simple. simple commands, simple registers, simple everything
[11:02] <Nubbie> hellevator: it's like that turtle program you learn in programming, or chipwits. its a good place to start.
[11:02] <yur1> Hellevator: i agree with you... top-down is the best way for
[11:02] <Nubbie> to get the logic down.
[11:03] <muryoutaisuu> wj32: sorry i accidentaly logged out then
[11:03] <rausb0> RawSewage: if you want more info, read the manual pages of find and sed  (man find, man sed)
[11:03] <muryoutaisuu> wj32: where should i go to learn those languages
[11:03] <maarten_> hi
[11:03] <wj32> Dive into Python. search google. i dont know where it is
[11:03] <Nubbie> muryoutaisuu: theres some good guides on the internet..
[11:03] <RawSewage> rausb0, ok
[11:03] <wj32> www.diveintopython.org
[11:03] <_goofy_> is it possible to run 2 instances xserver
[11:04] <Nubbie> everything is on the internet, and google is always the way to find it.
[11:04] <wj32> _goofy_: yes!
[11:04] <yur1> muryoutaisuu: go deeper on google, dude
[11:04] <sorcerer> hey guys .. umm when i plug in my camera to extract pictures will ubuntu automaticaly mount it or do i have to do something?
[11:04] <wj32> Nubbie: not everything
[11:04] <Nubbie> _goofy_: two monitors?
[11:04] <galorin> wj32, Nubbie I've still got metadata.  and the entire mythtv database intact.  Here's what I did.  removed the data from /var/lib/mysql/mysql/, apt-get --purge remove mysql-server-5.0, and when asked if I wanted to remove databases used by all versions of mysql, I answered no.  Then I reinstalled mysql-server, and re-created my mythtv user ith the same password as before.
[11:04] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[11:04] <_goofy_> i have 2 moniter
[11:04] <wj32> galorin: wtf.
[11:04] <Nubbie> galorin: so the problem is solved
[11:04] <wj32> sorcerer: auto
[11:05] <galorin> wj32, well, it worked. :-)
[11:05] <maarten_> does anyone have experience with via s3 unichrome pro vga adapter & Beryl?
[11:05] <wj32> galorin: damn damn damn. i shouldve done that
[11:05] <sorcerer> nice so i can extract files and what not
[11:05] <Nubbie> !anyone | maarten_
[11:05] <ubotu> maarten_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:05] <wj32> i give up too easily :)
[11:05] <Nubbie> maarten_: and yes, yes I do.
[11:05] <Hellevator> wj32, simple commands.  I disagree about simple registers. Most of the registers have specific purposes... and hard to remember names (at first).  Stuff you should not have to worry about when starting programming.  I don't want to get into a debate but I just get kind of upset when experienced programmers recommend assembly to newbies.  Its really just setting them up for failure unless they have a teacher to walk them through the
[11:05] <Hellevator>  process.