[12:01] <beast_> anyone have java6?
[12:01] <AndyCR> sethk: sorry, thats what I meant
[12:01] <sethk> Zenerek, that's the default, so the question is kind of unclear.
[12:01] <Zenerek> alright hold on while i restate my question
[12:02] <eck> AndyCR: also use apt-get build-dep if you want to actually build the package
[12:02] <eck> otherwise you will be missing a ton of dev packages
[12:02] <etchris> When installing the nvidia drivers,  I dont see the software preferences box thats supposed to come up
[12:02] <etchris> ?
[12:02] <hejsa> Flannel: Apache problem again... Apache2 is running and working now, but php isn't working. php is installed and a2enmod php5 says it's enabled and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf got the right file indexes... and i have restarted the apache2 server a couple of times... also when apache2 isn't running i got no other webservers answering... what could the problem be ?
[12:02] <AndyCR> eck: thanks. and if I modify it, just make install? or do I have to do something to tell apt that I modified it so it wont steamroll it with an update?
[12:02] <beast_> please does anyone have java6?
[12:03] <eck> AndyCR: iirc the make file will build a .deb
[12:03] <AndyCR> nice, thats great! thanks
[12:03] <sethk> hejsa, I don't know what you mean about other webservers.  apache2 is your web server (obviously) so what are you expecting to answer?
[12:03] <AndyCR> i moved to gentoo partly because i couldnt get source, and didnt think to ask... :/ now im sick of recompiling everything
[12:03] <jrib> beast_: ask your real question
[12:04] <eck> AndyCR: oh, you have to use dpkg-buildpackage
[12:04] <Flannel> sethk: he wants to know why PHP isn't being processed.  hejsa, it happens.  We see it ocassionally.  I... don't remember the fix at the moment.
[12:04] <sethk> AndyCR, source is available for everything.  All the distros are built from the same source, except for a tiny bit that might be different distro to distro
[12:04] <sethk> Flannel, I know, but he also asked a second question, which I was addressing
[12:04] <beast_> ok how did you download java6 because i've tryed various methods and wanted to see what actally worked for people
[12:04] <AndyCR> eck: thanks
[12:04] <Flannel> hejsa: you may want to try asking in #apache.  But I'll keep trying
[12:04] <sethk> Flannel, you also have to tell apache that .php is an allowable executable file name
[12:04] <jrib> beast_: use sun-java6-jre from edgy-backports
[12:04] <eck> AndyCR: here's one I did a while ago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10689/
[12:04] <Flannel> sethk: That's in php5.conf
[12:04] <sethk> Flannel, you also have to tell apache that the directory in which a .php file lives is allowable for executable files.
[12:05] <sethk> Flannel, so?  did I say it isn't in php5.conf?
[12:05] <eck> I keep notes :-)
[12:05] <beast_> jrib: i have dapper and would it be alright to get it from synaptic?
[12:05] <AndyCR> sethk: yeah, but if im using edgy, and it uses a certain version of an app, and the version the project site for that app releases is much more up-to-date, chances are ill need a bunch of extra newer libraries as well
[12:05] <Dato> fdhfj
[12:05] <Dato> this is a chat?
[12:05] <somniis> Dato: yep :)
[12:05] <jrib> beast_: java6 is not packaged for dapper
[12:05] <dager> Dato: of course :)
[12:05] <sethk> AndyCR, oh, sure, it's much more practical to use the distro's source packages.  But the availability of source does not differ from distro to distro.
[12:06] <Flannel> jrib: its in backports
[12:06] <sethk> AndyCR, as I think you said you discovered.
[12:06] <sethk> Dato, I don't know, is it?
[12:06] <beast_> jrib: i see it here in synaptic
[12:06] <sethk> AndyCR, I answered before I read the whole thing.  :)
[12:06] <jrib> Flannel: for dapper?  packages.ubuntu.com doesn't show it
[12:07] <bubb> bye everyone
[12:07] <jrib> beast_: ok then install it, but to quell my curiousity can you show me the output of this command:  apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre
[12:07] <Zenerek> ok since i am not sure what part you did not get i will explain, I created a new user for someone, i want them to be able to use wvdial to go online, i have given them every permission except admin and it seems that to use wvdial you need admin permissions
[12:08] <jrib> Flannel: ah you are right, I just typed it wrong :)  (and ubotu doesn't search dapper-backports)
[12:08] <beast_> jrib: sun-java6-jre:
[12:08] <beast_>   Installed: (none)
[12:08] <beast_>   Candidate: 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1
[12:08] <beast_>   Version table:
[12:08] <beast_>      6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1 0
[12:08] <beast_>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages
[12:08] <erUSUL> Zenerek: add them to the dial group
[12:08] <beast_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:08] <dager> Zenerek: dial group
[12:08] <jrib> beast_: thanks, that should be ok.  In the future please use a pastebin for large pastes
[12:08] <eck> beast_: please don't flood
[12:08] <sethk> Zenerek, oh.  you need the SUID feature.  that allows the program, the dialer in this case, to execute with admin privileges, even though started by a normal (non-admin) user
[12:09] <AndyCR> ah
[12:09] <AndyCR> thanks again!
[12:09] <beast_> sorry whats a pastebin?
[12:09] <cmatheso2> i'm writing a upstart script on feisty, but my pre-start script doesn't seem to get executed... how can i debug this?
[12:09] <jrib> !pastebin | beast_
[12:09] <ubotu> beast_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <sethk> Zenerek, try the group suggestion first, it's simpler
[12:09] <beast_> jrib: just the jdk and bin should be ok right?
[12:09] <Zenerek> ok i will try and thanks
[12:09] <spinster> hi, i'm running linux ubuntu and i want to download and install some stuffs to i watch movies/dvd/mp3/mpeg/ can somebody help me ?
[12:09] <ep2011> wow, im getting pretty mad now...
[12:10] <jrib> beast_: yes, unless you also want the plugin for firefox
[12:10] <ep2011> 8 checksums failed
[12:10] <ep2011> this is my 4th time burning
[12:10] <ep2011> low speed... with correct md5
[12:10] <somniis> ep2011: :(
[12:10] <ep2011> Any ideas? :(
[12:10] <spinster> jrib: you helped me one time, and that was a good help can you help me this time ?
[12:10] <eck> ep2011: put the iso on your hard drive and boot off of it with grub (if you already have linux on)
[12:10] <Kronuz> hey, are the nautilus key bindings in some configuration file?
[12:10] <erUSUL> Zenerek: in the graphical front end to groups and users (System>Admin>users and gro..) in the properties of a user you can check "Use modems" as a permision in the third tab
[12:11] <ep2011> I dont have linux, eck
[12:11] <Kronuz> 'cause I want to set the location bar to alt+d
[12:11] <jrib> !restricted | spinster
[12:11] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <AMD> what the correct way to run mythtv front end from a terminal ?
[12:11] <sethk> ep2011, you mean you do md5sum on individual files on the cd, and there is a mismatch for some files?
[12:11] <eck> well then you have to take your chances with burning
[12:11] <spinster> jrib: i know that but look, i need to remove some # from some file i dunno where what to remove can you tell me what to do ?
[12:11] <jrib> spinster: have you read the wiki page?
[12:12] <spinster> jrib: nope wait i will read it now :)
[12:12] <toulouse> whenever i format a partition as ext3 journaled, my file system check fails and then i have to press ctrl-D to continue the boot--why?
[12:12] <ep2011> sethk: I did md5sum on the iso, and then when I checked the disk when running it it found 8 errors
[12:12] <ep2011> but this time, it acually runs, unlike last time
[12:12] <deek_> Hey guys, when I try starting X it gives me an error about not having the module "wfb". Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[12:12] <sethk> ep2011, you mean the installer's "check cd" thing finds these errors?
[12:12] <ep2011> yes.
[12:13] <sethk> deek_, turn off the frame buffer feature
[12:13] <khaled> how come telinit 3 does not take me to console mode ?
[12:13] <khaled> is it disabled by default ?
[12:13] <sethk> deek_, take it ouf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <ep2011> but sethk, now the live cd runs
[12:13] <deek_> How?
[12:13] <ubuntu> hey ubuntu users. how do you do?
[12:13] <ep2011> but im worried the install will be messed up..
[12:13] <mand0> fantastic, thanks for asking
[12:13] <sethk> khaled, ubuntu has assigned the run levels differently than all the other distros
[12:13] <flyinghippo> Hello.  I have done something very stupid.
[12:13] <mand0> uhoh what ?
[12:13] <eck> ep2011: run the disc check on the CD, maybe the burning software is incorrectly detecting errors
[12:13] <sethk> khaled, it's unfortunate, because the lowest normal run level includes the gui.  You can, of course, stop the gui.
[12:13] <flyinghippo> I installed the Feisty repository software... turns out it was developer software.
[12:13] <somniis> ep2011: do you have another computer to test the install on first?
[12:14] <flyinghippo> Now gnome fails to start.
[12:14] <sethk> flyinghippo, I got married once, can't be any more stupid than that.
[12:14] <mand0> Tis so
[12:14] <ep2011> no somniis
[12:14] <ep2011> and eck, that is the check i did
[12:14] <somniis> ah :(
[12:14] <flyinghippo> Is there a system restore?
[12:14] <dager> flyinghippo: any error logs?
[12:14] <beast_> jrib: i installed it but the java commands in the terminal don't work
[12:14] <ep2011> I don't get why it isnt burning right, I used 2 programs too
[12:14] <ubuntu> what what?
[12:14] <jrib> beast_: what java commands?  WHat errors do you get?
[12:14] <eck> i would just try to install it anyway
[12:14] <mand0> yea, are you getting any errors/problems? or just the developer title scares u ?
[12:14] <jrib> beast_: details are important :)
[12:14] <deek_> sethk, would I comment out Load "vbe"?
[12:15] <eck> do you know what files it thinks are bad?
[12:15] <ep2011> no, it doesnt show me
[12:15] <sethk> deek_, that's the general idea; let me check on the name of the frame buffer feature.
[12:15] <ubuntu> Tis so??
[12:15] <flyinghippo> Dager: I'm sure I could fetch some, but I'm not sure how I could send them.
[12:15] <flyinghippo> I'm currently in nIRC.
[12:15] <eck> ep2011: you could also do network install...
[12:15] <beast_> jrib: java -version and the error is bash:java:command not found
[12:15] <mand0> ubuntu: i said fantastic thanks for asking
[12:15] <ep2011> whats the negatives of installing dapper and upgrading? I have dapper from shipit i got about a year ago
[12:15] <erUSUL> beast_: have you done 'sudo aptdate-alternatives --config java' and choosed sun java?
[12:15] <ubuntu> What do you mean?
[12:15] <mand0> way to pay attention
[12:15] <eck> you'd have to redownload everything though
[12:16] <khaled> sethk: how can stop the GUI? i am using ubuntu on vmware.. gui is taking up too much resource.. i do not want uninstall as i might need it back sometimes
[12:16] <beast_> erUSUL: no
[12:16] <jrib> beast_: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:16] <Lamego> beast_, you don't have java installed
[12:16] <dager> flyinghippo: ah, i see.. do you remember getting any error messages to begin with? or does it just fail to start?
[12:16] <ep2011> eck, I only have wireless internet...
[12:16] <sethk> deek_, I'd have to google for the module name, which you can do as well as I.
[12:16] <flyinghippo> It was actually the GDM that wouldn't start.
[12:16] <eck> ep2011: there's nothing wrong with it, if you have a good dapper disc that's probably the way to go
[12:16] <erUSUL> beast_: if you instaled java do that
[12:16] <sethk> khaled, you can edit the inittab file (in /etc)
[12:16] <eck> ep2011: some wireless drivers are supported -- i did network install with an intel wireless chipset!
[12:16] <erUSUL> !java > beast_
[12:16] <flyinghippo> Perhaps I could wait for feisty to be out, then update everything, and for now, use my laptop?
[12:16] <Toma-> the forums look all messed up since the upgrade :/
[12:16] <mand0> backup the stuff u want to keep and reinstall edgy ?
[12:17] <dager> flyinghippo: im sure its fixable.. did gdm give you any errors?
[12:17] <khaled> sethk: edit which line ?
[12:17] <spinster> jrib: look the error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xine-lib/libxine-main1_1.1.1+ubuntu2-7.6_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[12:17] <sethk> khaled, let me look at mine, hold on
[12:17] <flyinghippo> The basic xorg diagnosis thing.
[12:17] <khaled> sethk: thanks
[12:17] <jrib> spinster: sudo apt-get update, then try whatever you were doing again
[12:17] <khaled> sethk: id:2:initdefault:
[12:17] <khaled>  ?
[12:17] <etchris> Anyone know how to install MoBlock?
[12:17] <dager> flyinghippo: when you updated to the fiesty repos.. what did you install?
[12:17] <flyinghippo> Dager: I pretty much updated everything
[12:18] <sethk> khaled, I'm wrong, it's only in inittab when it needs the auto restart.  You need to remove the link to gdm (or kdm or whichever display manager you use) in /etc/rc1.d
[12:18] <dager> flyinghippo: you might be missing part of xorg, modular does that to people :(
[12:18] <spinster> jrib: k
[12:18] <dwhsix> aaargh... I keep not being able to get sound in swiftfox (macromedia flash, e.g. youtube etc)... any suggestions?
[12:18] <jrib> ok
[12:18] <flyinghippo> I'll try things out and come back later.
[12:18] <ep2011> eck, my wireless isn't even showing up in Network Settings
[12:18] <sethk> khaled, rc1.d for run level 1, rc2.d for run level 2, etc.
[12:18] <deek_> sethk, according to the nvidia forums wfb should be included in the nvidia drivers. I installed them with envy..
[12:18] <eck> ep2011: yeah, just use the dapper cd then
[12:18] <sethk> deek_, I run nvidia without frame buffer with no problems at all.
[12:18] <dwhsix> other sound (e.g. cd, mp3) is fine
[12:18] <khaled> sethk: so just delete the file ?
[12:18] <etchris> Okay, little help...I installed wine through Add/Remove yet it isnt working, even installed all other packages from synaptic still nothing, any help?
[12:18] <sethk> deek_, you could of course install the missing libraries
[12:19] <khaled> sethk: i guess i am using gdm
[12:19] <sethk> khaled, right.  It's a sym link.
[12:19] <spinster> jrib: don't work that to i install to watch dvd/mp3/mpeb
[12:19] <spinster> jrib: don't work that to i install to watch dvd/mp3/mpeg
[12:19] <deek_> sethk, what's the missing libraries?
[12:19] <Jaguar> etchris: What're you trying to run on wine?
[12:19] <spinster> jrib: sure i need to add or remove some # from some file can you tell me ? please
[12:19] <somniis> ep2011: can you run ethernet to the comp?
[12:19] <sethk> deek_, you mentioned it before, wfb.somethingorother
[12:19] <etchris> Jaguar, the steam install
[12:19] <jrib> spinster: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <spinster> k
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, in /etc/rc1.d, do this:    ls | grep gdm
[12:20] <Jaguar> etchris: I take it you did the entire winecfg thing and have set up your c_drive in your .wine folder?
[12:20] <khaled> sethk: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2007-03-10 19:19 /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm -> ../init.d/gdm
[12:20] <ubuntu> psi
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, that's the one.
[12:20] <khaled> sethk: would renaming it help ?
[12:20] <etchris> Jaguar, I just did it through the package installer
[12:20] <khaled> sethk what if i want to get back to GUI later?
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, probably, but it's cleaner to just move it to another directory.
[12:20] <spinster> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10691/ here
[12:20] <sethk> khaled, you can always recreate it this way:
[12:20] <spinster> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10691/ here i paste it
[12:20] <deek_> sethk, Okay, thanks!
[12:20] <khaled> sethk: ah thnaks
[12:21] <khaled> sethk thanks
[12:21] <sethk> ln -s  ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[12:21] <sethk> khaled:    ln -s  ../init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[12:21] <Jaguar> etchris: Ok, there's a few things you need to do now that it's installed. First as your user (not root) run `winecfg`. This will create your user's .wine folder and c_drive folder
[12:21] <ep2011> somniis: no, its on the other side of the house
[12:21] <kingcobra> does anybody know the up down commands for wireless network device
[12:21] <etchris> Jaguar, Just did that
[12:21] <khaled> sethk: rebooting.. hope it works
[12:21] <sethk> khaled, should.
[12:21] <Jaguar> etchris: Ok, good. What version of wine did you install?
[12:22] <ep2011> You guys are sure that upgrading is just as good as installing the 6.10?
[12:22] <etchris> Jaguar, latest one im guessing
[12:22] <ep2011> well, installing 6.06 and then upgrading
[12:22] <etchris> Jaguar, straight off the package installer
[12:22] <spinster> jrib: are you here ?
[12:22] <jrib> spinster: add "universe multiverse" to the end of lines 28 and 29
[12:22] <wyndblade> ep2011: personally I haad no issues with the upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[12:22] <Jaguar> etchris: type `wine --version` and let me know.
[12:22] <Kronuz> is there any way I can change the CTRL+L in Nautilus for ALT+D ?
[12:22] <somniis> ep2011: it should be just as good.
[12:22] <spinster> humm ok
[12:22] <Kronuz> (I'm very very used to alt+d
[12:22] <sethk> ep2011, I wouldn't upgrade as part of a new install unless there was absolutely no alternative.
[12:22] <Liam11> Hello, I just have a simple question, does 6.10 Support the Enhanced visual styles? (the cubed workspaces and such)
[12:23] <etchris> Jaguar, 0.9.22-0
[12:23] <Flannel> Liam11: #ubuntu-effects, and yes.
[12:23] <wyndblade> ep2011: but I did a fresh install of 6.06 and had nothing else installed
[12:23] <khaled> Liam11: just install xgl
[12:23] <etchris> Jaguar, Version: 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (wine)
[12:23] <eck> Kronuz: _maybe_ in gconf-editor, but i wouldn't bet on it
[12:23] <Kronuz> also, in Firefox, CTRL+E is not working (as to go to the search bar)
[12:23] <ep2011> sethk: Is burning 4 disks all with errors but the right md5 with the iso no alternative?
[12:23] <spinster> jrib: where to add it ?
[12:23] <ep2011> with a speed of 3x
[12:23] <spinster> jrib: give me example
[12:23] <spinster> aha to the end
[12:23] <spinster> ok
[12:23] <Liam11> Thanks flannel and khaled!
[12:23] <Kronuz> eck, I looked there but I couldn't find it... where would it be?
[12:23] <jrib> spinster: yes
[12:23] <sethk> ep2011, I'd expect it to burn errors with 6.06 also.
[12:23] <eck> Kronuz: um, maybe under apps > metacity ?
[12:24] <ep2011> I have the one from shipit
[12:24] <sethk> ep2011, unless you mean you already have a good 6.06 cd
[12:24] <spinster> jrib: okay i add it and ?
[12:24] <eck> or else in the nautilus settings
[12:24] <jrib> spinster: sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <Jaguar> etchris: You might want to consider changing the repository you update from to the official winehq one before you start - http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[12:24] <sethk> ep2011, oh, ok.  You can try it, certainly.
[12:24] <ep2011> im assuming the shipit was good, but I would of course test it
[12:24] <spinster> jrib: look
[12:24] <spinster> You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please, check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[12:24] <Kronuz> eck, also, do you know where gconf files are kept 'cause I removed one folder in ~/.gconf but it's still showing at gconf-editor
[12:24] <Jaguar> etchris: But that's at your discretion
[12:24] <spinster> i can't save it
[12:24] <etchris> Jaguar, Would you do it?
[12:24] <Alonea> Ok, now that I got my video card working again, I am unable to shutdown, just like before. It closes all the programs and the screen goes black and stays there.
[12:24] <jrib> spinster: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <ep2011> the live cd seems fine even with the errors :\
[12:24] <eck> Kronuz: if you remove it then when the files are neededthey're just created with the default settings
[12:24] <etchris> Jaguar, I dont have a clue what it does anyhows, but would you reccommend?
[12:24] <spinster> k
[12:25] <eck> Kronuz: some settings are also in ~/.gnome2
[12:25] <Alonea> This is after installing the binary drivers so I could get 3d accel. with my ati card
[12:25] <sethk> ep2011, then give the install a try.  nothing to lose, really.  odds are you can get away with it, and fix any anomolies later.
[12:25] <khaled> sethk: cool, it started to console.. but one more issue.. it uses the GUI loader (the one with ubuntu, and status scrolling).. is it possible to take that off as well ?
[12:25] <Jaguar> etchris: I'd recommend following the instructions on the page I sent you (first uninstall the version of wine you just installed and remove .wine from your home folder).
[12:25] <somniis> ep2011: if the livecd runs, it might be ok to try
[12:26] <Kronuz> eck, is it possible to bind the alt+d to the ctrl+l ?
[12:26] <Kronuz> using perhaps xbindkey
[12:26] <spinster> jrib: i type sudo apt-get update and now ?
[12:26] <sethk> khaled, it is, but I'd have to look up how to do it.  It will be in an init file in /etc, but not in rc1.d.
[12:26] <jrib> spinster: yes
[12:26] <eck> Kronuz: i am not sure, you might try asking on the gnome irc network (irc.gnome.org)
[12:26] <ep2011> sethk, what im worried about is it messing up my windows install
[12:26] <spinster> jrib: and now what to do ? now i can watch ?
[12:26] <Jaguar> etchris: That way you'll be fully updated. Then you can check out - http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554 which will give you the low down on how well Wine supports Steam. Luckily for you it has a superb rating.
[12:26] <somniis> ep2011: do you have the Windows cd to reinstall just in case?
[12:26] <khaled> sethk: oh, thanks, i look it up sometime.. i can live with this for now
[12:26] <sethk> ep2011, any such risk is minimal.
[12:26] <ep2011> no, just the hp restore disk
[12:26] <khaled> sethk: thanks a lot
[12:26] <jrib> spinster: no, now follow the wiki page ubotu told you about
[12:27] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i delete the .wine from home pal?
[12:27] <spinster> jrib: ok
[12:27] <etchris> Jaguar, I know it does :)
[12:27] <andre_pl> this may sound crazy, but when I load ipw3945, my keyboard stop responding and cpu shoots up to 50%
[12:27] <spinster> jrib: can you tell me the website again, i type /clear sorry about that
[12:27] <sethk> etchris, rm -fr $HOME/.wine
[12:27] <jrib> !restricted > spinster
[12:27] <etchris> Thanks sethl :)
[12:27] <xtknight> andre_pl, do you have a wireless kb?
[12:27] <sethk> etchris, be careful with rm -rf, it's dangerous for obvious reasons.
[12:27] <Jaguar> etchris: How do you want to delete it, command line or GUI? :)
[12:27] <kingcobra> gyaresu: hey are you here i cant remember what the up and down commands for wifi devices are
[12:27] <eck> andre_pl: weird -- open up a console with top so you can see what is happening
[12:27] <spinster> jrib: there have 3 website so what website to i read it ?
[12:28] <etchris> Jaguar, Command
[12:28] <andre_pl> xtknight: no.itsa laptop
[12:28] <jrib> spinster: start with the first one
[12:28] <spinster> jrib: ok
[12:28] <xtknight> andre_pl, what kind of cpu load?  i/o (disk, dark blue) or processing (light blue)?  you can see the different kinds of cpu load via gnome-system-monitor
[12:28] <rogue780> if I install the current Feisty release now...will I have to completely reinstall it on the official release? or will I be able to upgrade via apt?
[12:28] <kingcobra> jrib cud u help me with wifi rob
[12:28] <Jaguar> etchris: Ok, and like he said, be careful with rm commands, but open a terminal and type `rm -r ~/.wine`
[12:28] <andre_pl> conincidentally enough the computer im using niw has a broken spacebar\
[12:29] <andre_pl> im pasting these\
[12:29] <xtknight> rogue780, dist-upgrade should be able to get you to the final version reliably, as far as i know at least
[12:29] <ep2011> Okay, my last question for awile: any reccomendations for windows backup tool? :\
[12:29] <Jaguar> etchris: That'll delete everything created when you ran `winecfg`
[12:29] <rogue780> xtknight, night
[12:29] <etchris> Jaguar, Done thanks, now ill follow website?
[12:29] <rogue780> xtknight, err...thanks
[12:29] <andre_pl> isThisTooAnnoying
[12:29] <bruenig> ep2011, files or the OS
[12:29] <eck> andre_pl: do you have sshd running?
[12:29] <rogue780> xtknight, not sure why I typed night...brain fart. but thanks
[12:29] <jrib> !wifi | kingcobra , I've never setup wifi, but ehre are the docs
[12:29] <ubotu> kingcobra , I've never setup wifi, but ehre are the docs: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:29] <xtknight> rogue780, heh no problem
[12:29] <eck> andre_pl: ifyou do you can ssh in and use another computer to investigate
[12:30] <andre_pl> eck: ill_try
[12:30] <xtknight> rogue780, ask in #ubuntu+1 to be sure
[12:30] <ep2011> bruenig: Either, really, I don't really care
[12:30] <andre_pl> hard_with_no_space
[12:30] <andre_pl> lol
[12:30] <bruenig> ep2011, well I backed up my files and just burned them onto dvds
[12:30] <Jaguar> etchris: Yup, the first page I sent you is how to update where you get your wine packages from so you can be up-to-date directly from winehq.org, and the second site shows how Steam runs on Wine and also has instructions on how to get it working.
[12:30] <rogue780> and while I'm on the topic...feisty's support for the turion dual core processor? anyone know anything about that? I've heard that there are issues with the core duo but...
[12:30] <xtknight> andre_pl, hm how did you spacebar break?  damage to the kb circuit?  maybe it's related?
[12:30] <rogue780> xtknight, will do thanks
[12:30] <ep2011> I guess ill just do that.
[12:30] <ep2011> Thank you everybody.
[12:30] <andre_pl> xtknight: different_computer
[12:30] <etchris> Jaguar, Can you post me the second one again? didnt see that
[12:31] <spinster> jrib: i select Other but i can't find package with name: Ubuntu restricted extras package
[12:31] <xtknight> andre_pl, oh. hmm well check the cpu thing
[12:31] <somniis> ep2011: good luck :)
[12:31] <sethk> andre_pl, it'shardtounderstandthingswhentypedonakeyboardwithnospacekey
[12:31] <spinster> jrib: so ?
[12:31] <jrib> spinster: I don't know what youa referring to
[12:31] <Jaguar> etchris: Sure, this is to the AppDB WineHQ Steam entry, it's very helpful - http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[12:31] <bruenig> spinster, there is no ubuntu restricted extras packages, they are bringing that out in feisty iirc for all in one codec install
[12:31] <etchris> Jaguar, Thank you soo much :)
[12:31] <fatlip> No package 'gnome-vfs-2.0' found -- where is PKG_CONFIG_PATH supposed to be set to?
[12:31] <Jaguar> etchris: Not a problem.
[12:31] <rogue780> or does anyone have comments on edgy's laptop usability? I've been thinking about putting it on my acer aspire 5100
[12:32] <eck> fatlip: do you have the dev libraries?
[12:32] <spinster> bruenig: so what is the name on the file ?
[12:32] <fatlip> i guess not then
[12:32] <beast_> when i try to open eclipse, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10693/
[12:32] <xtknight> fatlip,  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/  generally on debian/ubuntu
[12:32] <jrib> heh
[12:32] <andre_pl> xtknight: the_irony_was_incredible._i_was_coming_to_ask_about_the_keyboard_ lockup_thing_and_the_batteries_died_in_the_wireless_ and_all_thats_left_is_this_garb
[12:32] <ClinicalMistake> rogue780: I installed it on my sony, and most everything seems to work okay
[12:32] <bruenig> spinster, yeah don't know what that last question means, what I mean by my statement is that you can't get those packages in edgy
[12:32] <crimsun> fatlip: install libgnomevfs2-dev
[12:32] <fatlip> i guess i dont have the dev packages
[12:32] <fatlip> k
[12:32] <rogue780> ClinicalMistake, thanks
[12:32] <spinster> bruenig: so i can't watch movie ?
[12:32] <xtknight> andre_pl, hrmm??
[12:33] <bruenig> spinster, you can, but you need to install the proper codecs another way than with that package
[12:33] <rogue780> I did try installing edgy on my aspire 5100 once, but it hung at the disk partition section. has anyone else experienced this?
[12:33] <spinster> bruenig: so please can you help me ? where to go to install that codecs ?
[12:33] <spinster> a
[12:33] <rogue780> would the alternate install maybe fix that?
[12:33] <ClinicalMistake> rogue780: Im having some troubles with an external moniter, but I believe there is a fix on the forums for it.  I need to mess around with xorg.conf some more
[12:33] <bruenig> !codecs | spinster
[12:33] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:33] <bruenig> rogue780, probably would
[12:33] <spinster> bruenig: to i write this in term: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui ???? a ?
[12:34] <beast_> when i try to open eclipse, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10693/
[12:34] <julioh> h4x0rs
[12:34] <bruenig> spinster, yeah assuming you have the right repositories enabled
[12:34] <mojo> i am having problems getting tftpd-hpa daemon to run.  whether started by inetd or stand-alone, it reports to syslog that it can't grab it's port because it's in use.  how can i tell what is using it's port? (69)
[12:34] <spinster> k
[12:34] <eck> mojo: lsof -i
[12:34] <spinster> ogle-gui is already the newest version.
[12:34] <spinster> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 66 not upgraded.
[12:34] <spinster> :S ?
[12:34] <bruenig> spinster, wow you need to upgrade some stuff
[12:34] <xtknight> mojo, `netstat -nap` should
[12:34] <mojo> eck: thx will try that
[12:35] <spinster> bruenig: so what stuffs ?
[12:35] <bruenig> spinster, sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:35] <Zenerek> hey you guys still here?
[12:35] <eck> xtknight: but that won't show the application that is bound to the port, will it?
[12:35] <ClinicalMistake> spinster: have you tried clicking mark all upgrades?
[12:35] <sethk> mojo, probably an inet daemon is using it.  do this:    sudo netstat -ap | grep tftp
[12:35] <spinster> bruenig: k
[12:35] <Helmi> good evening - any php developers around?
[12:35] <fatlip> okay well ig ot rid of most of the errors.. which package is this: No package 'gnome-desktop-2.0' found
[12:35] <xtknight> eck, well, shows the pid of it (-p parm)
[12:35] <fatlip> i treid gnome-desktop2-dev
[12:35] <fatlip> doesnt exist :)
[12:35] <xtknight> eck, oh also showas program name (format: pid/program)
[12:36] <jrib> fatlip: what are you compiling?
[12:36] <fatlip> affinity
[12:36] <bruenig> fatlip, perhaps libgnome-desktop-dev
[12:36] <eck> aha
[12:36] <fatlip> oh libgnome ;) thanks ya
[12:36] <sethk> fatlip, in synaptic, use the search function and enter gnome-desktop.  it will show you all the packages with gnome-desktop as part of the name
[12:36] <mojo> sethk: it says inetutils-ine is using it
[12:36] <eck> fatlip: if there is a package for whatever you are compiling, try apt-get build-dep package_name
[12:36] <eck> that will grab all of the dependencies
[12:36] <etchris> Jaguar, How do i go about installing the Tahoma font into ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts?
[12:37] <bruenig> etchris, get the tohama font and move it into that directory
[12:37] <mojo> sethk: what is that?  is it the inetd?
[12:37] <esaym> If an app is backported from say edgy to dapper, will dapper automatically update to the backported app??
[12:37] <sethk> mojo, ok, we have to find the configuration for that, and tell it not to handle incoming tftp connections.  (Or, configure it to run the tftp daemon you want to use)
[12:37] <etchris> bruenig, how do i open that directory to view it though?
[12:37] <bruenig> esaym, when it does its periodic updating yes
[12:37] <xpoint> i got my su brokken in someway so "su root" and "sudo apt-get update" gets permission denied
[12:37] <bruenig> etchris, you don't need to, just mv it into that directory
[12:37] <xtknight> xpoint, use single user mode (recovery mode) at bootup
[12:38] <sethk> mojo, it's clearly a version of inetd, but I'm not sure which one.  Neither inetd nor xinetd uses that name.  But I'm a rev back on the machine where I run the tftp server, so the name may have changed.
[12:38] <Jaguar> etchris: If you have a Windows install you can bring it over from WINDOWS\Fonts
[12:38] <xtknight> xpoint, and then you may be able to add your user back to admin or fix a sudo executable problem
[12:38] <esaym> bruenig:  what do you mean by "periodic updating"?
[12:38] <jinho> wat's the command to update to a newer kernel?
[12:38] <etchris> Jaguar, nope i havent, how do i go about placing it in that folder?
[12:38] <bruenig> etchris, but to answer the question, go to ~ and then press ctrl + h and then find .wine and go from there, or you can do "nautilus ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts" in the terminal
[12:38] <mojo> sethk: i want it to use the tftpd-hpa server, which is invoked by /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
[12:38] <xtknight> jinho, it should be automatic with all your other updates
[12:38] <dfcarney> Has anyone had any success setting up TwinView (dual-head display for nVidia cards) under Edgy?  AFAICT, I've set up everything properly (according to Xorg.log), but my secondary display doesn't turn on.
[12:38] <Jaguar> etchris: just use the `cp` command.
[12:38] <xtknight> jinho, if you want a newer kernel than is in the repositories, you must compile it yourself
[12:38] <sethk> mojo, yes, I know, and on my box I removed it from inetd.  I'm just not sure of the name of the configuration file associated with that particular version of inetd
[12:38] <bruenig> esaym, well you realize that the update manager does not just automatically pop up when there is an update available, it runs via a cron job every once in a while and looks for updates and then pops up if it finds one
[12:39] <esaym> oh ok thats what you meant.  I use kubuntu.  It checks at every log in I think
[12:39] <mojo> sethk: i woulda thunk /etc/inetd.conf because that is where dpkg-reconfigure configures it
[12:39] <bruenig> esaym, I am sure it checks more often than that
[12:39] <jinho> xtknight- what's the newest kernel then?
[12:39] <xtknight> jinho, for Edgy?  2.6.17-11
[12:40] <esaym> bruenig: thanks for the info
[12:40] <Zenerek> ok so my problem had been giving another usder the permission to use wvdial without giving admin rights, it was suggested i put him in the dialup group, it work, now i have another problem which is that user can't run firestarter, and since a user can only be in one group... ideas?
[12:40] <xtknight> !info linux-kernel-genreic
[12:40] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-genreic does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:40] <sethk> mojo, indeed.  so it's normal old inetd.  On my netstat -ap I see inetd, which is why I was confused by the name you found in the netstat output
[12:40] <xtknight> !info linux-kernel-generic
[12:40] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-generic does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:40] <etchris> Jaguar, It doesnt even recognise .exe files?
[12:40] <etchris> :S
[12:40] <bruenig> !info linux-image-generic
[12:40] <{NmE}> Anyone here got Steam up and running on their box?
[12:40] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:40] <xtknight> ah thanks
[12:41] <eternalswd> I'm having a problem with wireshark not detecting either of my ethernet connections on edgy.  Any ideas?
[12:41] <mojo> sethk: i had it configured to have inetd start it, but thinking it wasn't doing anything i could find in ps or in the syslog i dpkg-reconfigured it to standalone... perhaps i need to restart inetd
[12:41] <xtknight> eternalswd, i think you have to run it as sudo
[12:41] <sethk> mojo, you definitely need to restart inetd if you enable or disable a type of server for inetd
[12:42] <sethk> mojo, remember that ps will only show the daemon running (when it is started by inetd) when a connection exists
[12:42] <eternalswd> xtknight, thanks, that was it
[12:42] <Jaguar> etchris: You must .exe's with the Wine command, it's preferable that you drop the .exe into your drive_c folder and run `wine c:\\installer.exe`, installer being the name of the executable.
[12:42] <mojo> sethk: okay now netstat is not claiming anything listening on the port... let me try to start the daemon stand-alone...
[12:42] <mojo> sethk: yeah, i figured that.
[12:42] <mojo> sethk: does inetd log somewhere?
[12:42] <sethk> mojo, it'll work.  Or, at least, you'll get a different error.  :)
[12:42] <sethk> mojo, I believe to syslog.  It's probably configurable.
[12:43] <beast_> jrib: i found the problem. The eclipse version in the repos is a bit old and isn't compatible with java 6. I downloaded  1.5 and changed the default and it works perfect :D
[12:43] <etchris> Jaguar, get my PM?
[12:43] <jrib> beast_: ah, great
[12:43] <beast_> thank you to everyone who helped me
[12:43] <cobelloy> hi, I installed dapper server on an old imac, then apt-get indtalled icewm icewm-common and xdm but I dont know how to start it up
[12:43] <beast_> you guys are great
[12:43] <Jaguar> etchris: Not seeing it.
[12:43] <cobelloy> does xorg install as a dependancy of icewm?
[12:43] <cobelloy> how do I configure it?
[12:44] <etchris> Jaguar, Argh
[12:44] <{NmE}> Can anyone help me with dual monitors on an ATI 9600 system?
[12:44] <xtknight> mojo, you are setting up a tftpd right?  this may help http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478
[12:44] <Pelo> nme try looking it up in the forum
[12:45] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i navigate to my wine folder to drop the exe in there?
[12:45] <Jaguar> etchris: I opened a dialog to you, I don't know if I did that properly, this is a new IRC client for me :/
[12:45] <mojo> xtknight: yep, i am trying to netboot a device but it repeatedly times out waiting for tftp packet (the device)
[12:46] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i navigate to my wine folder to drop the exe in there?
[12:46] <bafoc> mojo: check out this link - http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/ubuntu_pxe.html
[12:46] <spinster> bruenig: its 51% i must wait to be 100 ? and then to i again type that command ?
[12:46] <somniis> would anyone perhaps know why a cd drive would keep opening and closing by itself?
[12:46] <bruenig> spinster, sure
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> WHICH ubunto to replace VISTA?
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> Sick of Vista
[12:46] <spinster> bruenig: okay, i'll wait
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> Sick of MS
[12:46] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: any
[12:46] <Jaguar> etchris: In your home directory is a hidden folder named .wine, inside of that folder is the dosdevices folder, drive_C folder, and registry files, in the drive_c folder is where you drop the executable (at at least that's what I do, you should be able to just run it with `wine /path/to/exe/installer.exe`)
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> Kubunto?
[12:46] <Pelo> somniis,  your computer is being haunted by XP and it won't let go
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> or Ubunot?
[12:46] <{NmE}> Can anyone help me with dual monitors on an ATI 9600 system?
[12:46] <Kevlar_Soul> K or U?
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> Kevlar_Soul: Ubuntu 6.10 isnt bad, i run it on my laptop
[12:47] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-head system?
[12:47] <somniis> Pelo: lol the computer I am referring to has XP on it :P
[12:47] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: they'd both work.  Depending on what you like.
[12:47] <q_> how can i share my internet connection with a cross-over cable,  one desktop and one laptop, both with ubuntu-edgy ?
[12:47] <cobelloy> Kevlar_Soul: kde is much more windows like
[12:47] <Jaguar> etchris: Use the `cd` command to navigate to drive_c if you need to on a command line `cd ~/.wine/drive_c`
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> Kubuntu is the lighter version of ubuntu apperently
[12:47] <Kevlar_Soul> Difference?
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> er
[12:47] <bruenig> Kevlar_Soul, there are three main derivatives, ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu, they have essentially the same base, the only difference is the desktop environment, wikipedia gnome, kde and, xfce to see what they look like
[12:47] <bruenig> kubuntu is not lighter
[12:47] <xtknight> xubuntu perhaps
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> KDE rather, not lighter
[12:47] <Pelo> somniis,  seriously,  borked cd probably,  try it on another computer or/and make a new one
[12:47] <ClinicalMistake> yeah I was thinking xubuntu
[12:47] <etchris> Jaguar, how can i move the exe in there?
[12:47] <Kevlar_Soul> Which is more GUI like VISTA?
[12:48] <cobelloy> you can dress any of them up for a vista feel
[12:48] <Pelo> Kevlar_Soul,  kde probably
[12:48] <xtknight> Kevlar_Soul, probably kde with beryl
[12:48] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: neither/both
[12:48] <somniis> Pelo: no no, the cd drive itself opens and closes on its own.  no cds are in it
[12:48] <cobelloy> but kde behaves more like windows
[12:48] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: The eye candy can be given to either
[12:48] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-head system?
[12:48] <bruenig> Kevlar_Soul, they can all be modified, kde by default appears to have a bar at the bottom with one menu at the left and a tray at the right
[12:48] <cobelloy> so.... can anyone help me set up xorg?
[12:48] <Pelo> somniis,  oh I get it,  I had that problem a while back,  I never figured it out either,  I re-installed ubuntu and now I am fine
[12:49] <etchris> Jaguar, how can i move the exe in there?
[12:49] <somniis> cobelloy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:49] <cobelloy> aha!
[12:49] <cobelloy> thats what I did last time, I think
[12:49] <Jaguar> etchris: Hmm, I think I should send you linux command line primer :P. The command would be `cp /path/to/exe/installer.exe ~/.wine/drive_c`
[12:49] <somniis> Pelo: ty :)
[12:49] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-head system?
[12:50] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-seat** system?
[12:50] <cobelloy> somniis: it says xserver-xorg not installed, i assumed it was a dependancy of icewm?
[12:50] <xtknight> cheeseboy, what do you mean precisely?
[12:50] <hyper-cool> can anyone help me with an install issue?
[12:50] <hyper-cool> i can only boot in safemode
[12:50] <xtknight> !anyone | hyper-cool
[12:50] <etchris> Jaguar, how do i execute it now?
[12:50] <ubotu> hyper-cool: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:51] <anolis> anyone running feisty?
[12:51] <cheeseboy> xtknight, two keyboards two mice two monitors one pc
[12:51] <Jaguar> etchris: `wine c:\\installer.exe`
[12:51] <xtknight> anolis, yup #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <sethk> hyper-cool, try the text mode install on the alternate cd
[12:51] <brent_> Has it been stated somewhere when the next LTS release will be for Ubuntu?
[12:51] <hyper-cool> i got the install to run
[12:51] <anolis> lol it scared me a few days ago, i did my tri-daily dist-upgrade and it broke my firefox and gnome lol
[12:51] <xtknight> !LTS
[12:51] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:51] <Zenerek> if you like gaming go back to xp...better yet 2k (less crap to eat ram) if not go ubuntu and kde does seem to have more options to change the desktop look
[12:51] <hyper-cool> using text on the alternate
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> No functional difference between KDE and GNOME versions?
[12:52] <anolis> but i figured it would be fixed and sure enough i did it again a few days later in kde and i could then install gnome again
[12:52] <brent_> yikes that doesn't help
[12:52] <xtknight> anolis, i actually havent had any breaks
[12:52] <Flannel> hyper-cool: and whats wrong with finishing it with the alternate CD?
[12:52] <hyper-cool> sethk: the problem now is that i can only boot into safemode or i get ACPI exceptions
[12:52] <Zenerek> oh there is also dual boot option
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> Thanks
[12:52] <cheeseboy> xtknight, understand?
[12:52] <xtknight> cheeseboy, yup just don't know... sorry
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> I can dual boot with Ubunto?
[12:52] <anolis> it was when they were upgrading the gnome to 2.18
[12:52] <sethk> hyper-cool, did you complete the installation?
[12:52] <hyper-cool> I finished installing and am now running native ubuntu
[12:52] <Flannel> Kevlar_Soul: there are differences, but they're not very concrete differences.
[12:52] <hyper-cool> BUT
[12:52] <xtknight> cheeseboy, youll definitely need modifications to X.org though
[12:52] <anolis> and all the opther dep's were 2.16
[12:52] <xtknight> cheeseboy, at least the xorg config
[12:52] <khaled> how do i find which version of ubuntu i am running ?
[12:52] <Kevlar_Soul> Anything FUnctional?
[12:53] <cheeseboy> ya i know
[12:53] <xtknight> khaled, lsb-release -a
[12:53] <xtknight> khaled, lsb_release -a
[12:53] <cheeseboy> havin trouble with gdm tho
[12:53] <khaled> xtknight thanks
[12:53] <khaled> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[12:53] <khaled> is this too old ?
[12:53] <khaled> i did .. apt-get install make
[12:53] <xtknight> khaled, well it's the latest !LTS but Edgy is out
[12:53] <Zenerek> yeah it's easier to install windows first and then ubunto. when you install ubunto the grub loader takes care of the dual boot for you
[12:53] <cheeseboy> can someone help me setup multi-seat system?
[12:54] <hyper-cool> i am running it in safemode. if i use regular mode it freezes [or at least takes more than an hour because thats as long as i waited]  during the fsck
[12:54] <khaled> xtknight for some reason, i have all these beta old packages installed
[12:54] <Flannel> cheeseboy: multiseat?
[12:54] <khaled> its like a mess
[12:54] <Pelo> Zenerek,  windows first , the when you install ubuntu grub gets configured automaticaly
[12:54] <xtknight> khaled, personally im' not sure why anyone would stick with Dapper (well may be better for grandparents etc since they need a rock solid system).
[12:54] <brent_> xtknight: for servers
[12:54] <brent_> that's partly why i need to know when the next LTS will be
[12:54] <xtknight> khaled, old beta what do you mean?
[12:55] <cheeseboy> Flannel, two keyboards two mice two monitors one pc = 2 seperate computers
[12:55] <cheeseboy> kinda
[12:55] <cheeseboy> http://netpatia.blogspot.com/2006/09/multiseat-v-gdm-and-xkb.html
[12:55] <sethk> xtknight, I have servers running happily on dapper and I have absolutely no need to touch them
[12:55] <tiago_deliberali> hi! i'm looking for a handwriting recognition software for my tablet pc... someone has a tablet pc with that???? : )
[12:55] <Zenerek> uh pelo could you say that more clearly
[12:55] <khaled> xtknight i did apt-get install automake
[12:56] <khaled> xtknight and it installed an automake which is pretty old
[12:56] <cheeseboy> Flannel, havin trouble editing  gdm
[12:56] <xtknight> khaled, it would install whatever is it in Dapper repos
[12:56] <woyrz> Need help on Installation of ubuntu
[12:56] <cheeseboy> can you help
[12:56] <bafoc> wow, ubuntu and beryl group tabbing is great
[12:56] <khaled> xtknight and some of the packages were beta, for example.. make
[12:56] <Flannel> cheeseboy: what trouble?
[12:56] <canute> Hi there, im trying to automaticly mount an sshfs. I have got it working however, my problem is that I have to type in the password every single time and its getting pretty anoying. I've tried multiple tutorials on the net (which basicly just says to create a key pair, transfer one and rename it authorized_keys).  Any tips on what might be wrong?
[12:56] <eck> brent_: i think the LTS releases are supposed to be every 3-5 releases, i don't think that the next one has been officially anouned though
[12:56] <xtknight> sethk, servers ya but for general desktop use i think edgy is better, i'm loving feisty atm
[12:56] <Zenerek> hey i'm running dapper here
[12:56] <khaled> xtknight i guess dapper repo is not good for latest dev packages
[12:57] <sethk> tiago_deliberali, see if tealscript is available for you environment
[12:57] <Pelo> Zenerek,  install windows first, that way, when you install ubuntu  the boot menu ( grub) will also find your window installation and add it to the boot menu so you can boot either OS at your leasure
[12:57] <sethk> xtknight, only better if it does something that you need to do that dapper doesn't do.
[12:57] <Pelo> Zenerek,  you are talking about a dual boot system right ?
[12:57] <spinster> bruenig: done is 100% and i type again sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui but still i can't watch movies why ?
[12:57] <bafoc> canute: check out - http://www.math.ualberta.ca/imaging/snfs/passwordless.html
[12:57] <sethk> xtknight, it is a BIG mistake to upgrade only because an upgrade is available
[12:57] <Louey> cheeseboy you wanting to be able to use one montior/keyboard mouse on 2 systems?
[12:57] <hyper-cool> Zenerek, make sure you dont tell it to reformat the windows partition though
[12:57] <cheeseboy> Flannel , i don't understand howto change it
[12:57] <bruenig> spinster, define movie
[12:57] <xtknight> sethk, i'm just someone who always likes the latest stuff.  i use the newest kernels for kvm support and stuff
[12:57] <woyrz> Need help installing ubuntu
[12:57] <spinster> bruenig: the movie is mpeg
[12:57] <cheeseboy> Louey, no
[12:58] <Pelo> woyrz,  can you be a little more specific ?
[12:58] <bruenig> spinster, mpeg should play even without those codecs
[12:58] <somniis> woyrz: please ask a question :)
[12:58] <Flannel> cheeseboy: you open it up in a text editor, 'sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm.conf' (and, like that page recommends, I'd make a backup too)
[12:58] <spinster> bruenig: mpeg play but DVD can't play
[12:58] <spinster> why ??
[12:58] <woyrz> Cd start the kernel but froze there
[12:58] <bruenig> !dvd | spinster
[12:58] <spinster> mpeg search some codec f.
[12:58] <sethk> xtknight, on a system that isn't critical to your network that may be a good attitude,  But in general it is not, and thus "no reason to use dapper" is 100% wrong.
[12:58] <ubotu> spinster: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:58] <Zenerek> umm pelo that's what i told Kevlar_Soul, it was not a question
[12:58] <cheeseboy> Flannel , i know that i just don't get what to change
[12:59] <Flannel> cheeseboy: That page seems to explain it quite well.  You'll be using Xephyr, whatever that is.
[12:59] <xtknight> sethk, imo 'bobby's home pc' != critical in most cases and the aesthetic/small improvements will mean more to him
[12:59] <hyper-cool> I keep getting ACPI errors during boot and had to boot into safemode to get going. Does anyone know what the deal with ACPI and amd64 ubuntu is?  anyone familiar?
[12:59] <Pelo> Zenerek,  sorry I lost track of the thread
[12:59] <xtknight> sethk, i'd prolly use Debian Sarge for servers
[12:59] <Pelo> woyrz,   a borked cd maybe, try it on another computer
[01:00] <cheeseboy> Flannel, can you pastebin me what xorg confshould look like after edited?
[01:00] <Zenerek> yeah it goes by quick eh
[01:00] <sethk> xtknight, I'm only pointing out that there _are_ reasons to run earlier releases.  They may not apply to you, and they may not apply to most people, but they do exist.
[01:00] <woyrz> i creat 3 different CD
[01:00] <spinster> bruenig: i install that too but still i can't watch :S
[01:00] <somniis> woyrz: have you tried using a different burner?
[01:00] <Flannel> cheeseboy: it's right there on that site.
[01:00] <woyrz> yes
[01:00] <Galga> hi
[01:00] <woyrz> same result
[01:00] <bruenig> spinster, ok ask someone else, if you installed that it should work or your dvd is messed up
[01:00] <cheeseboy> Flannel , not the whole thing
[01:00] <somniis> hmm.. where are you downloading the iso from?
[01:00] <Galga> what is the command to search for a package, like apt-get search ?
[01:00] <spinster> bruenig: look www.mkhost.org i want to buy a shell from there and i can't see the hosts.. bla bla... look check it the website what i need to install to see that things ?
[01:00] <Pelo> woyrz,  there is an alternate install cd ,  command line interface, no live,    try downloading and installing form that
[01:01] <hyper-cool> woyrz have you tried the alternate install?
[01:01] <etchris> Will the Nvidia driver, that the bot advertises, work with Beryl
[01:01] <cheeseboy> i tried puttin it in it didnt work
[01:01] <Flannel> cheeseboy: No, but the section they edited.  Everything else, in theory, is the same as it was
[01:01] <userund> Galga, apt-cache search
[01:01] <Galga> userund thanks
[01:01] <cheeseboy> Flannel, i did something wrong just don't kno what
[01:01] <cheeseboy> i need to see the whole thing
[01:01] <Flannel> cheeseboy: I have no idea how Xephyr works. You might consult it's documentation.  Check your error logs, stuff like that.
[01:01] <spinster> jrib: look
[01:01] <spinster> can somebody give me a WEBSITE To i install download flash player ?
[01:02] <spinster> a
[01:02] <khaled> xtknight would a source.list from edgy work in dapper safely?
[01:02] <Flannel> khaled: no.
[01:02] <spinster> !flashmedia spinster
[01:02] <spinster> is that command ?
[01:02] <Flannel> !flash | spinster
[01:02] <ubotu> spinster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:02] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:02] <spinster> k thx :D
[01:02] <jrib> spinster: it's on the same site as before
[01:02] <woyrz> Yes i try different installs
[01:02] <Galga> i want a package which is in backports repository, how can i get it userund
[01:02] <jrib> !backports | Galga
[01:02] <spinster> jrib: bro look
[01:02] <ubotu> Galga: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:02] <spinster> ogle is already the newest version.
[01:02] <spinster> ogle-gui is already the newest version.
[01:02] <spinster> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:02] <spinster> i can't see the www.mkhost.org
[01:02] <spinster> :(
[01:02] <spinster> i need flash player
[01:02] <khaled> Flannel ah
[01:03] <Zenerek> so back to my question,ok so my problem had been giving another usder the permission to use wvdial without giving admin rights, it was suggested i put him in the dialup group, it work, now i have another problem which is that user can't run firestarter, and since a user can only be in one group... ideas?
[01:03] <jrib> spinster: that's ogle, not flash.  Click on the link about "flash" on the wiki
[01:03] <spinster> jrib: what link ?
[01:03] <sethk> Zenerek, a user can be in many groups, as many as you want
[01:03] <xtknight> khaled, no
[01:03] <sethk> Zenerek, man usermod          will show you how to add secondary groups
[01:03] <Zenerek> what?
[01:03] <spinster> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?
[01:03] <jrib> spinster: you see the table of contents at the top?  Go to "Web" and the "Flash"
[01:03] <jrib> spinster: yes
[01:04] <spinster> ok
[01:04] <sethk> Zenerek, a user has only one primary group, but may join any number of other groups
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: i don't see Flash
[01:04] <sethk> Zenerek, and for this purposes that's just as good as it being his primary group
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: please g ive me example ( give me the website for flash )
[01:04] <jrib> spinster: do you see the table of contents at the top?
[01:04] <Zenerek> ok let me chek it out
[01:04] <sethk> Zenerek, usermod -g sets the primary group,   usermod -G allows you to supply a list of groups
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: yes i see
[01:04] <xtknight> khaled, only time you want to use Edgy list in dapper is to dist-upgrade
[01:04] <spinster> jrib: look
[01:04] <spinster> 5 results of about 2470 pages. (0.07 seconds)
[01:04] <spinster>    1. Firefox2AMD64Flash9Java
[01:04] <spinster>    2. FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:04] <spinster>    3. FlashPlayerStandalone
[01:04] <spinster>    4. RestrictedFormats/Flash
[01:04] <Winball> My mouse lags during quake2, anybody know how to solve this?
[01:05] <spinster>    5. UsbFlashDrives
[01:05] <spinster> what flash ?
[01:05] <jrib> spinster: do not paste here.
[01:05] <spinster> jrib: sorry :(
[01:05] <spinster> so can you tell me what flash ?
[01:05] <spinster> a
[01:05] <xtknight> Winball, mess with the in_mouse cvar maybe?  not sure, but that's the quake3 one
[01:05] <Zenerek> alright i'll check it out
[01:05] <jrib> spinster: click on #4
[01:05] <etchris> Is restarting x the same as logging in and out?
[01:05] <spinster> ok
[01:05] <jrib> etchris: no
[01:06] <etchris> cause ctrl+alt+backspace dont work :O
[01:06] <jrib> etchris: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[01:06] <livingdaylight> hello Peeps
[01:06] <livingdaylight> Q: i have an XP and a Linux. Can they talk and transfer files to one another?
[01:07] <xtknight> livingdaylight, yes if you use certain protocols
[01:07] <sethk> livingdaylight, sure
[01:07] <jrib> !samba | livingdaylight
[01:07] <ubotu> livingdaylight: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:07] <sethk> livingdaylight, there are several ways
[01:07] <sethk> livingdaylight, so tell us a typical situation and we'll tell you what's available
[01:07] <livingdaylight> sethk: the easy way for noob like me :s
[01:07] <canute> Hi there, im trying to automaticly mount an sshfs. I have got it working however, my problem is that I have to type in the password every single time and its getting pretty anoying. I've tried multiple tutorials on the net (which basicly just says to create a key pair, transfer one and rename it authorized_keys).  Any tips on what might be wrong?
[01:08] <Winball> xtknight yeah, I found out what the problem was :) in_dgamouse 0 -> Set to value 1. Thx for the tip!
[01:08] <sethk> livingdaylight, none of them are really hard.  But, do you mean you have linux and xp dual booting on a single machine?  do you have a network with both linux and windows on it?
[01:08] <livingdaylight> sethk: i have the xp on laptop with ntfs filesystem and teh ubuntu (ext3) on desktop
[01:08] <xtknight> Winball, ah ya that's what it was...dga mouse
[01:08] <Winball> :D
[01:08] <sethk> livingdaylight, ok, then samba (as someone already suggested) is probably the thing to use
[01:08] <livingdaylight> yes, jrib intuited samba style
[01:09] <spinster> jrib: Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[01:09] <spinster> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): look now what to type there ?
[01:09] <xtknight> livingdaylight, windows uses something called SMB for file sharing.  all you do is share files/printers on the network the conventional way in XP, and then with Samba (linux SMB implementation), it should be able to see the shares from your Windows machine
[01:09] <xtknight> spinster, /usr/lib/firefox
[01:09] <svu_> gnome-settings-daemon cannot connect to dbus. I wonder why?
[01:09] <svu_> "Connection refused"
[01:10] <Sergi0> canute: i use this script http://wiki.openvz.org/Ssh_keys check that page, works great
[01:10] <xtknight> livingdaylight, personally i've had a couple issues with getting samba to reliably work although most of my experiments consisted of WAN (Internet) sharing not LAN (local network) sharing
[01:10] <spinster> FREENODE.COM IS THE BEST SERVER ! :D
[01:11] <canute> Sergi0: i'll try that
[01:11] <scv> dotcom?
[01:11] <delaney> does anyone know how to get a link to the trash folder with an icon on idesk.. or even whre its located on ubuntu so that i might set one up??
[01:12] <xtknight> delaney, well the `nautilus ~/.Trash` command goes to your trash folder afaik
[01:12] <livingdaylight> xtknight: i can install SMB on windows?
[01:12] <xtknight> delaney, hold up that cmd is a bit messy
[01:12] <Sergi0> canute: execute #./script user@host then type password and the ssh keys will be put
[01:12] <sethk> livingdaylight, don't need to
[01:12] <delaney> xtknight,  yeah.. i dont have a .Trash folder in my home directory but i do in fact have a trash..
[01:12] <livingdaylight> sethk: i dunno what to do exactly
[01:12] <sethk> livingdaylight, samba is software that makes a linux box look like a windows box, for use in a windows network
[01:13] <xtknight> livingdaylight, yes, choose to install the File and Printer Sharing.  that installs SMB on Windows
[01:13] <xtknight> livingdaylight, it is a protocol under your network adapter options under Windows
[01:13] <sethk> livingdaylight, after you install samba, and configure it, the windows box will talk to your linux box in the same way one windows box talks to another windows box
[01:13] <livingdaylight> xtknight: where do i find that in windows?
[01:13] <excitemike>  h
[01:13] <mojo> okay i dont' get why this isn't working (tftp).. i have the server listening, even explicitly to <IP_ADDRESS>:69 and i see packets in syslog coming in on br0 (phys eth0) with DPT=69 but my device still times out waiting on tftp packets.. hmph
[01:13] <livingdaylight> sethk: ok, so install samba
[01:13] <livingdaylight> first
[01:13] <xtknight> livingdaylight, control panel->Network Connections.  choose your adapter, right click properties.  make sure the Sharing protocol is listed.
[01:13] <sethk> livingdaylight, right  :)
[01:14] <xtknight> livingdaylight, and also you should disable XP's 'simple sharing' thing , well it gets on my nerves.  that shows up when you right click and goto sharing on a file or printer.  to disalbe simple sharing go in Tools->Folder options
[01:14] <livingdaylight> sethk: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[01:14] <sethk> xtknight, what happens that is undesirable if you don't disable simple sharing?
[01:15] <excitemike> delaney  config editor  then apps then nautilus then desktop tick box
[01:15] <sethk> livingdaylight, that's part of samba, but not all.  that's just the file sharing part
[01:15] <livingdaylight> xtknight: i think i 'm gonna try and set it up from the linux box by setting up samba like sethk and jrib suggest
[01:15] <xtknight> sethk, can't remember exactly but i've never liked it
[01:15] <livingdaylight> sethk: sudo apt-get install samba?
[01:15] <sethk> livingdaylight, in synaptic do a search for all the packages with "samba" in the name
[01:15] <sethk> livingdaylight, that's part of samba, but not all.  that's just the file sharing part
[01:16] <Sergi0> canute: did u try it?
[01:16] <xtknight> livingdaylight, ok sounds good
[01:16] <delaney> excitemike,  taht would be fine and good were i in gnome.  but im not.  im in openbox trying to get a trash icon on the desktop with idesk
[01:16] <canute> Sergi0: yes, but i think i did a mistake when i was copying the script
[01:16] <excitemike> cool
[01:16] <delaney> basically what i figure is i need to know where the folder is.. cause its not ~/.Trash like in nautilus.. (i use thunar)  and then I can make thunar open it
[01:16] <delaney> thunar shows it as Trash:///
[01:16] <delaney> which is a whole lot of nothing from what i can tell
[01:16] <peter77> I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop and have gotten aiglx and beryl to work
[01:16] <xtknight> delaney, `thunar Trash:///` ?
[01:17] <quaal> what is the apt-get install for a terminal services client
[01:17] <delaney> xtknight,  Thunar: Failed to open "Trash:///": The URI "Trash:///" is invalid
[01:17] <quaal> so i can connect from ubuntu to a windows machine
[01:17] <peter77> do I need to install any drivers for my intel graphics chip as I haven't installed any?
[01:17] <xtknight> delaney, that actually works for me better with nautilus.  it opens the shell trash with all the trash related options vs. just the .Trash folder
[01:17] <delaney> and there is my problem ;)
[01:17] <bruenig> delaney, in xubuntu, trash is ~/.local/share/Trash
[01:17] <quaal> oh nevermind
[01:17] <quaal> i already have it
[01:17] <bruenig> delaney, or are you not talking about that
[01:17] <Billious> quall: apt-get install rdesktop
[01:17] <quaal> Billious, thanks
[01:17] <aorith> is there a way to remove gnome and install xfce or its better to make a fresh install?
[01:18] <Zenerek> ok i checked it out, currently the user i was talking about primary group is dialout, i checked and firestarter's group is root, i just want the user to use firestarter along with wvdial,
[01:18] <delaney> bruenig, EXCELLENT
[01:18] <delaney> bruenig,  you found it.. SO GREATFUL thanks.
[01:18] <xtknight> aorith, probably remove ubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop but a clean install of Xubuntu might be better
[01:18] <Hackmo> hey, anyone know when the latest version of wesnoth will be making it into the ubuntu repositories
[01:18] <xtknight> !info wesnoth
[01:18] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[01:18] <xtknight> Hackmo, it's in universe, i think it only gets updated every 6 mo
[01:18] <aorith> xtknight okay :)
[01:19] <xtknight> aorith, not 100% sure on that though, you could always use the one off the website
[01:19] <Zenerek> i was hoping firestarted had it's own group kinda like me being able to give selective access to wvdial and firestarted
[01:19] <Billious> anyone have an idea how to make edgy's gksudo play nice with dpkg-reconfigure
[01:19] <xtknight> Billious, what do you mean?  you wouldn't use gksudo with dpkg-rec..
[01:19] <bruenig> Billious, dpkg-reconfigure is not graphical...
[01:19] <livingdaylight> sethk: looks like samba is already installed
[01:19] <Billious> it is with -fgnome
[01:19] <xtknight> Billious, huh?
[01:19] <Billious> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -fgnome postfix
[01:20] <sethk> livingdaylight, good, now you just need to configure it.
[01:20] <xtknight> Billious, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -fgnome postfix
[01:20] <Billious> you can choose the dpkg front-end
[01:20] <Zenerek> oops i meant firestarter... damn typos
[01:20] <bruenig> dpkg has a front end? this is the first I am hearing of this
[01:20] <xtknight> Billious, oh hrmm.  well it doesn't work with sudo?  or does it use an ncurses
[01:20] <xtknight> bruenig, i think he means it brings up a gnome config dialog instead of the ncurses typical with dpkg-reconf
[01:21] <livingdaylight> sethk: i don't even know where it is> is ther a gui for it?
[01:21] <Billious> xtnight: i'm running a script that is started from menu, sudo won't prompt for password unless it has a tty
[01:21] <sethk> livingdaylight, there are several.  I use webmin, but the latest ubuntu doesn't ship with webmin.
[01:21] <sethk> livingdaylight, someone here will know
[01:21] <xtknight> Billious, oh so you're adding dpkg-reconf to a menu?
[01:22] <livingdaylight> sethk: i do see webmin in synaptic
[01:22] <Billious> xtknight: something like that
[01:22] <neopsyche> this really sucks.. i get new ubuntu loaded.. and my mouse doesnt work.. so i cant click on the stupid icon
[01:22] <xtknight> Billious, and gksudo doesn't work properly?  it should still execute dpkg-reconf afaik
[01:22] <sethk> livingdaylight, good.  try it, I find it a great help
[01:22] <Billious> i can make the graphical dialog work, however gksudo doesn't let dpkg-reconfigure write configuration files like 'sudo' does
[01:23] <etchris> Can someone explain how i make a desktop cube using beryl please?
[01:23] <Flannel> etchris: #ubuntu-effects
[01:23] <xtknight> Billious, odd.  well if no one here has an idea, try #debian
[01:23] <kwtm> How do I run a bash script every time the computer boots up, whether or not I log on to the GUI desktop environment?
[01:23] <bruenig> kwtm, call it from /etc/rc.local
[01:23] <ijmi> I installed Vista and I can't log into Ubuntu now because Vista automatically boots. How can I resolve this?
[01:24] <Fujitsu> !grub | ijmi
[01:24] <ubotu> ijmi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:24] <kwtm> bruenig: Thanks for the advice.  Will check that out.
[01:24] <andre_pl> so does anyone know how I can map a different key to use for my broken spacebar?
[01:24] <xtknight> Billious, i can't send you PMs because your nick is not registered.  like i say i'm not sure, try #debian
[01:25] <xtknight> andre_pl, google xmodmap perhaps
[01:25] <Billious> thanks xtknight
[01:25] <etchris> Jaguar, Need your help again :)
[01:25] <etchris> Jaguar, If your still there?
[01:26] <Jetfighter> How do I make a folder writeable?
[01:26] <xtknight> Jetfighter, sudo chmod a+w foldername
[01:26] <PedroS> Jetfighter: use the chmod command
[01:26] <andre_pl> xtknight: thanks.. it appears I need to know the keycode of the space, that could be a problem. :P
[01:27] <etchris> How do i move a .exe from my desktop to my wine c drive please?
[01:27] <xtknight> Jetfighter, actually you don't need sudo if your user owns it.  a+w means writable for all users.  likewise u+w for users write, o+w for Others write i think
[01:27] <Madpilot> Anyone familiar with cups-pdf? The PDFs it creates don't actually contain text - you can't cut and paste out of them. Is there a way to get real text out of it?
[01:27] <bruenig> don't forget g+w
[01:27] <xtknight> andre_pl, ASCII code 32 ?
[01:27] <sethk> Madpilot, use one of the pdf viewers:  kghostview, acroread, etc.
[01:28] <Jaguar> etchris: Yeah, I'm partially here :)
[01:28] <andre_pl> xtknight: doesn't go by ascii codes though, they unique to every keyboard.
[01:28] <Madpilot> sethk, I'm creating PDFs from webpages (printing to cups-pdf, that is) and every PDF viewer I've tried won't copy text from them...
[01:28] <xtknight> andre_pl, use xev to grab the keycode for space?
[01:28] <etchris> Jaguar, think you could give me the command to move exes from desktop to c drive again please buddy?
[01:29] <bruenig> etchris, mv ~/Desktop/whatever.exe ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:29] <sethk> Madpilot, oh, that doesn't really produce pdf, pdf is just an interrum format that it uses.
[01:29] <xtknight> andre_pl, state 0x0, keycode 65 (keysym 0x20, space), same_screen YES,
[01:29] <xtknight>     0x20 which is 32 dec...
[01:29] <sethk> Madpilot, the output is specific to the printer
[01:29] <xtknight> andre_pl, well maybe it's 65 for my KB
[01:29] <sethk> Madpilot, do you need to create a pdf from something?  if so, what?
[01:29] <Jaguar> bruenig: Faster typer than I, though I think you were just waiting for an easy one :P
[01:29] <xtknight> andre_pl, i think i use the standard 103 kb or w/e it is, it's probably 65 for most people?
[01:29] <Zenerek> well not one without my own ideas, i came up with a temp idea using gksudo nautilus, i went in and changed to group ownership of firestarter to dialout... now i wonder if it wil work
[01:29] <Madpilot> sethk, I'm not using a printer, I'm using cups-pdf to produce actual PDF files from webpages.
[01:30] <sethk> Madpilot, cups-pdf does not produce pdf.  as you've discovered
[01:30] <sethk> Madpilot, open office writer can produce pdf from html
[01:30] <aaaaaa> hi
[01:30] <aaaaaa> :D
[01:30] <sethk> Madpilot, might be a filter   html2pdf also
[01:30] <Madpilot> sethk, it produces files that the system seems to think are PDF. Can OOo accept URLs to produce PDFs from? (I don't think it can, but...)
[01:31] <mEck0> I can't hear any sound when I try to use optical cable from my laptop (intel hda on-board soundcard). The optical cable is connected from spdif (on laptop) to optical interface on my surround decoder. What could be the problem? After I installed Ubuntu, sound didn
[01:31] <sethk> Madpilot, it would take a bit of scripting, but it wouldn't be terribly hard.
[01:31] <xtknight> mEck0, digital/analog switch in gnome-volume-control Switches tab?
[01:31] <aaaaaa> i`m tried today to dist-upgrade to fiesty from edgy. On amd64 with kernel 2.6.20 splashy won`t work automatically. Any suggestion or config i`m supposed to do in order to let it work? tnx
[01:31] <sethk> Madpilot, what cups produces is too specialized for what you need to do.
[01:31] <elventear> Hello. I have computer whose screen has gone completely blank. I cannot go the console or anything, but I can still SSH to it. Any ideas why this might and what can be done besides rebooting to get the screen/console/X working again?
[01:31] <lufi1> aaaaaa: you mean usplash?
[01:31] <lufi1> aaaaaa: or something else?
[01:31] <aaaaaa> nope, splashy
[01:31] <Madpilot> sethk, does cups-pdf produce PS, then, or what?
[01:32] <xtknight> elventear, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:32] <aaaaaa> it`s in feisty rep splashy
[01:32] <sethk> Madpilot, I'm not certain.  Easy enough to tell, though; name the output xyz.pdf and open it with ghostview
[01:32] <xtknight> !info splashy
[01:32] <ubotu> Package splashy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:32] <elventear> xtknight: That didn't work
[01:32] <livingdaylight> sethk: webmin is not authenticated?
[01:32] <xtknight> elventear, anything in gdm or X logs?
[01:32] <sethk> Madpilot, there is a ps2pdf, but it doesn't produce acceptable output IMHO
[01:32] <eck> elventear: check your logs to see if there is anything that jumps out at you
[01:32] <livingdaylight> sethk: where do i find it?
[01:33] <sethk> livingdaylight, google for it, it isn't hard to find.
[01:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: it is in synaptic
[01:33] <Jetfighter> I need DB extensions....Where can I get?
[01:33] <Madpilot> sethk, um, have you ever actually *used* cups-pdf? It produces actual PDF files already, you don't have to rename anything or use ghostview. They just don't have copyable text.
[01:33] <Jetfighter> !db extensions
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about db extensions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <sethk> livingdaylight, then why did you ask where to find it?
[01:33] <Jetfighter> !db
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about db - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Jetfighter> !database
[01:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: but when i type webmin in commandline it is not there
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about database - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <crimsun> Madpilot: if it doesn't produce ponies, it's shite!
[01:33] <livingdaylight> sethk: coz i install it and i don't know where it is
[01:33] <bruenig> !fishing | Jetfighter
[01:33] <Eifersucht> anyone want to help me get my sound working
[01:33] <ubotu> Jetfighter: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:33] <sethk> Madpilot, ok, then I guess you already know your answer.  there is no such thing as producing pdf that can't be copied.
[01:33] <Zenerek> elventear you could also try alt+ctrl+backspace. it's supposed to reset the gui i think (never tried it)
[01:34] <xtknight> Jetfighter, what are DB extensions?  are you compiling something, or what?
[01:34] <elventear> Zenerek: That didn't work either
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, and, yes, I've used it, but the pdf it produced was not usable
[01:34] <elventear> CTRL+ALT+F[1-5]  doesn't give me the console either
[01:34] <mEck0> xtknight, it looks like this http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=disablediec958ba0.png (disabled), but when I enable it: http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enablediec958yi8.png , I can't hear any sound either :(
[01:34] <aaaaaa> wait. with splashy i got to append quiet splash vga=XXX or just vga=XXX ?
[01:34] <Madpilot> sethk, shall I email you the PDF that cups-pdf just produced that isn't copyable? Trust me, I've got it open on another desktop...
[01:34] <Eifersucht> Pollywog you here
[01:34] <elventear> That last part is what confuses me
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, but not because I couldn't copy it.
[01:34] <Jetfighter> I'm trying to install a forum software.
[01:34] <elventear> The console should be always there, right?
[01:34] <Pollywog> yes
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot, sure, send it to me, I'll open it here.
[01:34] <sethk> Madpilot<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:34] <kkerwin> Hi. Trying to compile xpertmud, and ld complains with this error: `/usr/local/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl'
[01:34] <mojo> sethk: you know, i am beginning to wonder if tftpd-hpa does not like running on my bridged port setup br0 = 10.1.1.x for both eth0 and eth2, where eth1 = 192.168.1.x (home lan and router to cablemodem)
[01:34] <userund> Madpilot, I've experienced the same thing.  you can only copy a block which comes as an image to the clipboard
[01:35] <Zenerek> that's because it ctrl+alt+f1 for the console
[01:35] <lufis> kkerwin: do you have all dependencies installed?
[01:35] <xtknight> mEck0, hmm i dont know
[01:35] <elventear> Zenerek: +F1 doesn't give anything either
[01:35] <mEck0> okay
[01:35] <xtknight> kkerwin, you need the perl dev library
[01:35] <kkerwin> lufis: Not entirely sure, as it's a source package, but I do have perl installed, which seems to be the problem.
[01:35] <Jetfighter> bruenig
[01:35] <lufis> kkerwin: hm, what app?
[01:35] <Zenerek> oh and alt+f7 to get back to the gui
[01:35] <sethk> mojo, I run it on a machine with multiple ethernet addresses.  You can point it at a particular address, I believe in /etc/default/tftp-hpa
[01:35] <kkerwin> xtknight -- There we go, thanks.
[01:35] <kkerwin> lufis: xpertmud
[01:35] <xtknight> !info libperl-dev | kkerwin
[01:35] <ubotu> kkerwin: libperl-dev: Perl library: development files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1392 kB
[01:35] <lufis> kkerwin: oh, right, heh
[01:35] <livingdaylight> can or would someone like to patiently talk me through setting up Samba? :D
[01:36] <mojo> sethk: i installe the hpa tftp client to test (locally) and it works fine on localhost
[01:36] <elventear> Zenerek: Nothing. Nothing happens. The screen is blank.
[01:36] <Jetfighter> How can I install Database Extensions?
[01:36] <sethk> mojo, try assigning it to a particular address
[01:36] <elventear> Is there a way to restart the tty?
[01:36] <iulian_> hi, I need to make my pc (Ubuntu 6.10 Server) a nat router. Can someoane help me, please?
[01:36] <livingdaylight> i have Samba installed but have no idea where it is or how to configure it :(
[01:36] <elventear> Or something like that?
[01:36] <Zenerek> then you're in trouble my friend
[01:36] <bruenig> Jetfighter, I don't know what that is, but fishing the bot in the channel won't do it
[01:36] <elventear> Zenerek: I still have VNC and SSH
[01:36] <elventear> :)
[01:36] <kkerwin> xtknight and lufis: thanks for the help
[01:36] <sethk> mojo, I use it to do tftp onto an embedded system we are building .
[01:36] <Jetfighter> >.<
[01:36] <Zenerek> don't know hwat to say
[01:36] <elventear> But I don't want to reboot
[01:36] <Jetfighter> I installed lamp....but...
[01:36] <andre_pl> xtknight: got it working, thanks... guess i need some new AAAs
[01:36] <elventear> It's processing some stuff
[01:36] <andre_pl> those things alsted forever
[01:37] <xtknight> elventear, what about the logs..
[01:37] <Jetfighter> Error
[01:37] <Jetfighter> The MyBB Requirements check failed due to the reasons below. MyBB installation cannot continue because you did not meet the MyBB requirements. Please correct the errors below and try again:
[01:37] <Jetfighter>     *
[01:37] <Jetfighter>       MyBB requires one or more suitable database extensions to be installed. Your server reported that none were available.
[01:37] <elventear> It says there is a lock already
[01:37] <elventear> But I've erased them
[01:37] <mojo> sethk: i tried editing /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and adding the -a <IP_ADDRESS>:69 option but it still didn't pick up my device's requests
[01:37] <elventear> And there is nothing running in :0
[01:37] <lufis> kkerwin: look in the readme file in the source tarball and see if you're missing a dependency or something
[01:37] <elventear> AFAIK
[01:37] <mojo> sethk: that is what i'm trying to do too... i have this dev board called EFIKA from a company called Genesi
[01:37] <sethk> mojo, let me look at my config.  give me a few minutes, I have to log into my work server
[01:37] <elventear> xtknight: Still, if X was crashing I should be able to get to the Console, right?
[01:37] <Alonea> Ok, now that I got my video card working again, I am unable to shutdown, just like before. It closes all the programs and the screen goes black and stays there.
[01:37] <mojo> sethk: thank you for being so helpful
[01:37] <aaaaaa> Does anyone know why 2.6.20 on feisty blocks at Configuring net interfaces?
[01:38] <xtknight> elventear, i'd think so
[01:38] <Alonea> This is after installing the binary drivers so I could get 3d accel. with my ati card
[01:38] <Jetfighter> The MyBB Requirements check failed due to the reasons below. MyBB installation cannot continue because you did not meet the MyBB requirements. Please correct the errors below and try again:
[01:38] <Jetfighter>     *
[01:38] <Jetfighter>       MyBB requires one or more suitable database extensions to be installed. Your server reported that none were available.
[01:38] <sethk> mojo, it's definitely usable that way.  give me a couple of minutes; hopefully I can get in through the vpn
[01:38] <Jetfighter> What the...
[01:38] <mojo> xtknight: (and thx to you too)
[01:38] <iulian_> is there someoane that can help me to transform my pc into a router
[01:38] <iulian_> ?
[01:38] <kkerwin> lufis: Ya. Just came up with an error for python now. I'm going to check and see what's going on. Sheesh. I just wish all of these programmers would get with the picture and start submitting .deb packages *evil grin* *duck*
[01:38] <elventear> I'll just wait for it to finish and reboot it
[01:38] <elventear> *sigh*
[01:38] <mojo> sethk: thanks. i was worried my bridge setup cornfuzed it
[01:38] <preaction> iulian_: yes, you can
[01:38] <Madpilot> sethk, email w/ pdf sent
[01:38] <xtknight> mojo, tftp thing?  actually my dad was using tftp for a dev board from Ubuntu too, he got it working evenutually
[01:38] <elventear> Musts be a freak bug
[01:38] <Alonea> The last time someone said something like st acpi=off, but it didnt work
[01:38] <preaction> iulian_: umm... iptables is rather complicated
[01:38] <lufis> kkerwin: :P half the fun of running an app is hunting down all the dependencies and compiling it XD
[01:38] <iulian_> preaction, can you give me some advices?
[01:38] <Eifersucht> iulian do you have a dual nic card ?
[01:38] <sethk> Madpilot, ok, give me a few minutes to look at it.
[01:38] <Zenerek> yes you should i think (i'm still learning myself)
[01:38] <xtknight> mojo, it was for a blackfin lnux
[01:39] <preaction> iulian_: there are some nice scripts available, let me try to find them
[01:39] <iulian_> Eifersucht, yes I have 2 network cards
[01:39] <livingdaylight> Is there a Samba guru in da house, who can patiently talk me through configuring it? :D
[01:39] <sethk> Madpilot, I have to run out with the dog, so give me more like 15 minutes; he's looking dangerous.  :)
[01:39] <shadowhywind_> hay all, when i try instaling the nvidia drivers, from the nvidia webpage, when i startx, I most of the time get a black screen with green vertical lines
[01:39] <kkerwin> lufis: True, yes. But I quit using Gentoo expressly so I didn't have to do that anymore.
[01:39] <lufis> kkerwin: ubuntu has just about everything though in its repos. not a whole lot of hunting necessary, just look for them in synaptic
[01:39] <Madpilot> sethk, np, I'll be around
[01:39] <Pollywog> it's easier to just buy a router and they are probably more energy efficient anyway
[01:39] <livingdaylight> !samba
[01:39] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:39] <Eifersucht>  Pollywog!
[01:39] <sethk> mojo, I have two network cards and three IP addresses (one virtual) on my server, so I doubt it's the bridging.  (Mine aren't bridged, though, just up)
[01:39] <Jetfighter> Ugh
[01:39] <Eifersucht> hey man i got that wireless working
[01:39] <kwtm> bruenig: Now rebooting to see if rc.local will run my script correctly.  Here we go!
[01:39] <kkerwin> lufis: The bigger problem is figuring out what the program wants. It's readme: install like any other program. Great ...
[01:39] <gbv22> hi, is there some way I can create a bootable usb pen drive (256 or 512 MB capacity)......with some lite versionn of ubuntu??
[01:39] <Pollywog> oh good,
[01:40] <lufis> kkerwin: heh
[01:40] <Pollywog> ndiswrapper?
[01:40] <Eifersucht> ha yeah it was gay
[01:40] <Eifersucht> no
[01:40] <preaction> iulian_: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/chunkyhtml/index.html <- good luck. i've always thought that BSD and pf were the way to go
[01:40] <kkerwin> lufis: Literally ...
[01:40] <xtknight> Jetfighter, have you tried google?  it's probably mysql apache extensions or sometihng
[01:40] <Eifersucht> right click the network connection on the top right thingy
[01:40] <iulian_> Pollywog, I want to keep a site on server too. And in the same time to be a lan router at home.
[01:40] <Eifersucht> i had to manually type wlan0
[01:40] <Jetfighter> xtknight, I think it's MySQL?
[01:40] <Eifersucht> then i had to manually enter the ESSID
[01:40] <Pollywog> julian:oic
[01:40] <xtknight> Jetfighter, i have no clue but that might point you in the right direction
[01:41] <Eifersucht> which i shouldt have to o]
[01:41] <Eifersucht> do*
[01:41] <mojo> xtknight, sethk  the link to my project page is http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/project/efika/81  and the device is described at http://www.genesippc.com/efika.php
[01:41] <trev_> does anyone know a program that converts .img files to .iso
[01:41] <etchris> Please can i get the move command again please, to move something from home folder to wine c driver?
[01:41] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: so the thing essentially works out of the box?
[01:41] <Eifersucht> it should find and auto connect to it
[01:41] <xtknight> mojo, are you booting a linux from a small chip via PXE?
[01:41] <Eifersucht> well.....kinda
[01:41] <xtknight> mojo, on a small chip*&
[01:41] <preaction> iulian_: there are also other advantages to having a full-fledged computer doing your routing, such as QoS, scheduling, bandwidth limiting, and fun advanced stuff
[01:41] <Eifersucht> it needs better support
[01:41] <Eifersucht> but yes
[01:41] <SirBob1701> anyone got decent tutorial for setting up the apache2 error log?
[01:41] <SirBob1701> lol
[01:41] <Eifersucht> and the meter bar doesnt work
[01:41] <Eifersucht> =/
[01:41] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you are using plain WEP?
[01:41] <Zenerek> does anyone know how to create new groups?
[01:41] <Eifersucht> well for kwifi it works
[01:41] <Eifersucht> no
[01:41] <Eifersucht> i am at a cafe
[01:41] <etchris> Please can i get the move command again please, to move something from home folder to wine c drive?
[01:42] <mojo> sethk: oh, well i didn't think the bridging _should_ be the problem, but still the device is not getting it's tftp image and i DO see the req's in syslog
[01:42] <Pollywog> oic
[01:42] <Eifersucht> so no encryption
[01:42] <mboso> how do i know what options a package was compiled with?
[01:42] <Eifersucht> and at home i just have mac filtering set up
[01:42] <eck> Zenerek: groupadd
[01:42] <iulian_> preaction, I agree with you. For the moment I only need it for basic stuff
[01:42] <Jetfighter> xtknight, what if I have LAMP installed?
[01:42] <xtknight> Jetfighter, sorry no idea dude
[01:42] <kkerwin> lufis: Now more problems. I'll let you and everyone else take a look.
[01:42] <Zenerek> thanks
[01:42] <iulian_> preaction, you have some scripts?
[01:42] <asc> etchris: mv ~/file ~./wine/drive_c
[01:42] <kkerwin> Ok. Small compile problem, here's the output: http://rafb.net/p/90iN4x23.html
[01:43] <ijmi> I don't know if anyone here has experience with the "Super Grub Disk," but it says it recovers the first copy of GRUB it finds. The old copy of GRUB I had did not know that I had Windows. Does this mean that when it recovers GRUB, it still won't see Windows?
[01:43] <Eifersucht> Pollywog i need to get the sound working though
[01:43] <mojo> xtknight: pxe is actually not in the picture.  it is getting it's ip addr via dhcp okay (dhcp3-server), and getting it's next-server (same one, me @ <IP_ADDRESS>) and filename for tftp dl just fine.  it then tries several times to dl from tftp and then gives up
[01:43] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: if you have a ssh server at home you can use ssh tunneling
[01:43] <preaction> iulian_: read the link i gave you. at the bottom are example scripts
[01:43] <kkerwin> Trying to compile xpertmud. Have python-dev headers installed.
[01:43] <Pollywog> to get encryption
[01:43] <unclemike> ? can i make ubuntu look like this..Linux XP desktop...its gnome based..   http://www.linux-xp.com/upload/iblock/533/533e1ee114f17813197eaf5ab0361324.png
[01:43] <preaction> iulian_: do NOT use those examples without understanding them
[01:43] <preaction> unclemike: yes, but why? who cares?
[01:43] <Eifersucht> well first thing Pollywog i need to get the sound working on this lappy
[01:44] <eck> kkerwin: i think your compile is too new, and it doesn't like the syntax in the source
[01:44] <Pollywog> k
[01:44] <pchilds> Has anyone succesfully set up the mt-daapd server?
[01:44] <Eifersucht> any sugestions
[01:44] <preaction> unclemike: http://art.gnome.org
[01:44] <eck> pchilds: yes
[01:44] <etchris> asc, I want to move.. `/home/chris/Desktop/xfire_installer_25104.exe' so what would the command be ?
[01:44] <mojo> xtknight: the EFIKA is a Freescale 5200B SoC dev system (powerPC)
[01:44] <kkerwin> eck: Damn.
[01:44] <Pollywog> which sound device?
[01:44] <iulian_> preaction, thank you, I missed that link :)
[01:44] <Eifersucht> and why cant i use alsaconf with ubuntu ?
[01:44] <Eifersucht> i dunno
[01:44] <Jetfighter> unclemike, tell me if you find out. That looks sweet.
[01:44] <eck> kkerwin: ask the developers what they used to compile it, and install that version
[01:44] <PedroS> unclemike: why do you want that? gnome themes are nicer than XP themes :)
[01:44] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you can
[01:44] <Eifersucht> i can PM you the lspci
[01:44] <ep2011> !rm
[01:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:44] <Pollywog> k
[01:44] <preaction> iulian_: again, good luck. i've tried to use iptables before, and failed
[01:44] <Eifersucht> whats the command for it
[01:44] <unclemike> preaction, i like the single bar better then the top and bottom bars
[01:44] <asc> techris: mv ~/Desktop/xfire_installer_25104.exe ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:44] <Eifersucht> because just alsaconf doesnt work
[01:44] <pchilds> Cool are there any good how to sites that might help me get it up and running?
[01:45] <mojo> sethk: i can pastebin whatever you think might help
[01:45] <kkerwin> eck: That would explain why the compiler kept complaining about a `;' sign preceding a // coment.
[01:45] <preaction> unclemike: then customize them? right-click on them you'll get a menu
[01:45] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: you need to install it, let me find out which package
[01:45] <sethk> mojo, k.  but give me a few minutes here to walk my dog.
[01:45] <Pollywog> I think it is alsa-utils
[01:45] <mojo> sethk: no problemo
[01:45] <eck> pchilds: it is very simple. you pretty much just install it and edit /etc/mt-daapd.conf
[01:45] <eck> the config file explains itself
[01:45] <unclemike> k
[01:45] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: first, find out what hardware you have
[01:45] <unclemike> thanks
[01:46] <Eifersucht> Pollywog check your PM's
[01:46] <eck> pchilds: there is also a web interface, if you set up apache (again, the config file explains it)
[01:46] <Eifersucht> Pollywog*  just sent you the lspci list in a PM
[01:47] <ep2011> YES! finally, no checksums failed!!!
[01:47] <Pollywog> I do not see it
[01:47] <mboso> how do i know what options a package was compiled with?
[01:47] <somniis> ep2011: good :)
[01:47] <Eifersucht> bleh ok
[01:47] <Eifersucht> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[01:47] <ep2011> :)
[01:47] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: go to System > info center
[01:47] <ep2011> Do you think 20 gigs is enough?
[01:47] <ep2011> (for ubuntu)
[01:47] <Pollywog> on the main menu
[01:47] <Eifersucht> k hold on
[01:47] <somniis> yes, plenty
[01:48] <ep2011> Okay.
[01:48] <eck> it's a lot more than i have :-)
[01:48] <ep2011> How much would you reccomend?
[01:48] <Eifersucht> dont see that Pollywog
[01:48] <ep2011> 15 with a 2 swap?
[01:48] <somniis> hehe, i have an entire 60 gig hd to it ;)
[01:48] <Eifersucht> i see a device manager though
[01:48] <userund> ep2011, 2 swap is mass overkill.
[01:48] <harry_> can I login to my computer over a network from a computer which does not have ubuntu installed
[01:48] <ep2011> I thought 2x ram?
[01:48] <ep2011> 1 swap?
[01:48] <pchilds> Thanks again eck.
[01:48] <somniis> 1 ext3 partition and 1 swap partition
[01:48] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: I think that is the same thing
[01:48] <userund> ep2011, if you have a gig of ram, you'll probably never even use swap.  1gb at most.
[01:49] <Skwid_> hey guys, i have a fat32 partition that is automagically mounted (and works well) but its not in /etc/fstab, any idea where it comes from ?
[01:49] <Pollywog> Kinfocenter
[01:49] <Eifersucht> k
[01:49] <Pollywog> you using KDE?
[01:49] <Eifersucht> i am using ubuntu
[01:49] <ep2011> Wow, much different from Windows.
[01:49] <ep2011> :P
[01:49] <Eifersucht> bleh
[01:49] <Eifersucht> gnome
[01:49] <bruenig> what is the deal with priorities in update-alternatives, how do you know, the numbers seem arbitrary
[01:49] <Pollywog> oh that's why you don't have Kinfocenter
[01:49] <userund> bruenig, yeah they're a real pain
[01:50] <Skwid_> or how i could mirror the currently mounted partitions in fstab ?
[01:50] <harry_> can I login to my computer over a network from a computer which does not have ubuntu installed
[01:50] <Eifersucht> Pollywog i am there so errrmmm..... what now ?
[01:50] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\setup.exe": Module not found'
[01:50] <{NmE}> What do I do?
[01:50] <userund> harry_, sure, with an ssh client like putty
[01:50] <asc> ep2011: 2x is probably overkill unless you're real low on RAM.  I've got 768 and it never touches the swap, so if you've got a decent ammount of RAM you don't need much swap.
[01:50] <{NmE}> or does this not really matter?
[01:50] <Pollywog> do you see the sound card info?
[01:50] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[01:50] <Eifersucht> nope
[01:50] <harry_> how do I do that?
[01:50] <userund> harry_, windows?
[01:51] <asc> Unless you're planning to do something strange, anyway.
[01:51] <harry_> yeah
[01:51] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: what is the chipset of your mobo?
[01:51] <koper> I have a pdf file and I want the text from it with the formatting. bold text and so on. any way to do this?
[01:51] <ep2011> So how much of each do you guys recommend? 15 gigs for ubuntu and 1 for swap?
[01:51] <userund> harry_, go download putty.
[01:51] <Jaguar> asc: Hibernation :)
[01:51] <ep2011> more? less?
[01:51] <Eifersucht> errmmmmm
[01:51] <koper> ep2011, 15gb is alot for just the system
[01:51] <Eifersucht> dunno
[01:51] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[01:51] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: apt-get install alsa-utils
[01:51] <PedroS> Skwid: are you sure that the partitions isn't in /etc/fstab? ubuntu automatically detects partitions and the device is something like this: UUID=4E904850904840A7
[01:51] <userund> ep2011, 8 for root ( / ), the rest for /home
[01:51] <asc> Jaguar: Oh, hm.  Never done that.  How much does it need?  About the same as RAM?
[01:51] <PedroS> and not /dev/hda2 p.e
[01:51] <Eifersucht> i think i installed that already through the synaptics packet manager
[01:51] <Jetfighter> If I download a theme, how do I get it?
[01:52] <Pollywog> then if you use sudo you should see the alsaconf command
[01:52] <Eifersucht> Pollywog ATI everyting with intel dual core proc
[01:52] <Eifersucht> ok lemme see
[01:52] <Madpilot> ubotu, themes | Jetfighter
[01:52] <ubotu> Jetfighter: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:52] <jrib> Jetfighter: system > preferences > themes   drah it into that window
[01:52] <ep2011> I'm going to have a duelboot, so should I have /home seperate? If I do, how much for /home?
[01:52] <Pollywog> sudo alsaconf
[01:52] <jrib> Jetfighter: drag*
[01:52] <kkerwin> What is the command to find all files installed by a package?
[01:52] <koper> ep2011, I have 7gb for / and only 2.9 used. But I have /home on another partition
[01:52] <Pollywog> kkerwin: dpkg -L packagename
[01:52] <Jetfighter> {NmE} - wine PROGRAMNAME.exe IN the directory thatfile is located
[01:53] <kkerwin> Pollywog: Thanks
[01:53] <Jaguar> asc: Yeah, hibernation is basically a semi-shutdown state, all your memory gets paged and the system cuts most of its power. I have trouble with suspending in Ubuntu so I've never tried hiberation :/
[01:53] <Eifersucht> Pollywog ...... not working
[01:53] <koper> ep2011, how much you should have for home only you can decide, it's for your personal files
[01:53] <arrenlex> Jaguar: hibernation IS a shut-down. It saves its ram to the swap partition and sets a hook to restore from it at boot. Then it turns off.
[01:53] <Eifersucht> dunno whats wrong
[01:53] <mojo> xtknight: the way i understand it, pxe net-boots a pxelinux program that in turn presents a menu of other kernel images to load from the tftp server, right?  don't know if that will work on a powerpc platform if pxelinux.0 is x86 code
[01:53] <Pollywog> Eifersucht: what does it do?
[01:54] <Pollywog> try to install alsa-utils again using apt
[01:54] <arrenlex> Jaguar: suspend is the semi-shutdown state. It dumps everything into ram and shuts down everything but the ram.
[01:54] <Jetfighter> jrib - It says th file type is invalid
[01:54] <asc> Jaguar: Hum.  Maybe I'll play around with that.
[01:54] <Eifersucht> errrmmmm lemme register with the server so i can PM you thats why it didnt work earlier
[01:54] <Eifersucht> how do i register ?
[01:54] <jrib> Jetfighter: where did you get this theme from?  can you link me?
[01:54] <arrenlex> !register > Eifersucht
[01:54] <Jaguar> arrenlex: I'm pretty sure I said that, without saying it was just blatantly a shutdown (because then what would the difference be?)
[01:54] <Eifersucht> ight
[01:54] <Jetfighter> jrib - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=35897
[01:54] <ep2011> Maybe ill do 5 for / and 15 for /home and 1 for /swap... That sounds pretty good to me
[01:54] <Eifersucht> !register
[01:54] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:54] <Eifersucht> lol
[01:54] <Pollywog> or to identify /msg nickserv identify password
[01:54] <khermans1> i installed xubuntu-desktop, but now i want to go back to ubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <arrenlex> Jaguar: Difference is you get your session back. :)
[01:54] <Jetfighter> Eifersucht, /ns register PASS
[01:54] <Eifersucht> thats what i thought Pollywog
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> Hello there, is there any command-line OGG player for Ubuntu, please?
[01:55] <khermans1> i did aptitude purge xubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <Eifersucht> ight
[01:55] <koper> ep2011, sounds fine
[01:55] <Eifersucht> no e-mail ?
[01:55] <khermans1> but it still shows xubuntu login
[01:55] <Jaguar> arrenlex: Technicalities, technicalities :P
[01:55] <arrenlex> !ogg123 | superkirbyartist
[01:55] <ep2011> Okay, thank you.
[01:55] <Jetfighter> I don't belive so
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg123 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <koper> ep2011, good luck
[01:55] <ep2011> Thanks :)
[01:55] <arrenlex> ...hmm.
[01:55] <Eifersucht> damn it
[01:55] <Jetfighter> !ogg | superkirbyartist
[01:55] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <Eifersucht> already registered
[01:55] <Eifersucht> crap
[01:55] <Eifersucht> um....
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> "Package ogg123 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> is only available from another source
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> E: Package ogg123 has no installation candidate
[01:55] <superkirbyartist> "
[01:56] <bruenig> !paste | superkirbyartist
[01:56] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:56] <harry_> how do i find what my computer's ip adress is ?
[01:56] <PedroS> superkirbyartist: I think mplayer can do it
[01:56] <superkirbyartist> Isn't "ogg" a free format?
[01:56] <Jetfighter> bruenig, you beat me to it
[01:56] <Shaba1> Hello ladies and gents
[01:56] <PedroS> harry: ifconfig
[01:56] <superkirbyartist> !mplayer
[01:56] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[01:56] <Eifersucht> Polly doesnt look like thats working
[01:56] <Pollywog> k
[01:56] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: Oh! That executable is in the vorbis-tools package.
[01:56] <xtknight> mojo, dunno but i dont think an x86 image will work on ppc
[01:56] <superkirbyartist> Pedros: Madplay is a command-line?
[01:57] <superkirbyartist> arrenlex: Talking about ogg123?  How can I fetch it?
[01:57] <Pollywog> I guess I can't initiate the chat either if you are not identified to Nickserv
[01:57] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: install vorbis-tools
[01:57] <Jaguar> Jetfigher: bruenig is good at that hehe.
[01:57] <etchris> Anyway that i can set my pc to turn it self off at a set time?
[01:57] <arrenlex> superkirbyartist: That'll give you ogg123
[01:57] <jrib> etchris: man shutdown, you can specify a time
[01:57] <Jetfighter> jrib - How can I?
[01:57] <superkirbyartist> Arrenlex and others, thanks for your time, see you later.
[01:57] <mojo> xtknight: that is what i figured too..
[01:57] <jrib> Jetfighter: you are dragging the tar.gz right?
[01:57] <Jetfighter> Yes
[01:58] <Shaba1> Hey I have a question. I have a 37.5 gb hd on my laptop semperon 1800mhz with 256mb ram. I have 22.5gb free. I just defraged and cleaned it. What size of ubuntu and swap partitions would everyon reccomend for me. Taking it account that I need to keep window XP for work
[01:58] <jrib> Jetfighter: it works fine for me
[01:58] <mojo> xtknight: though i may be able to find source for pxelinux and compile a ppc version, dunno... not really necessary for my project though.  i did find the page you linked me useful, though.
[01:58] <Jewbilee> Hey, I just installed ubuntu on an external hardrive.  Both the / and swap partitions are on the external harddrive.  My intent was to be able to run windows on my laptop, and when the external is with me, be able to boot ubuntu if wanted.    Error 21
[01:58] <asc> etchris: You can set it to execute a command (such as 'shutdown -h now') daily with chrontab.
[01:59] <VeganChick> I think Ubuntu just died on me...
[01:59] <Jetfighter> jrib - tell me EXACTLY what to do
[01:59] <xtknight> mojo, wish i could remember how my dad set it up but alas i can't...all i know is that he booted off a precompiled Blackfin vmlinuz from tftp
[01:59] <jrib> Jetfighter: download the tar.gz file to your desktop.  Open system > preferences > themes.  Using your mouse, drag the tar.gz file into the theme window
[01:59] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[01:59] <etchris> asc, Chrontab?
[01:59] <PedroS> Shabal: 512mb for swap and 10/15gb for ubuntu
[02:00] <fannagoganna> hi, i am trying to install a very minimal Ubuntu system with debootstrap onto my linux machine
[02:00] <bruenig> !hi | fannagoganna
[02:00] <ubotu> fannagoganna: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:00] <fannagoganna> however, i am installing onto a currently configured LVM2 system
[02:00] <asc> Shaba1: 256-392 swap.  You can use all the rest for ubuntu, or set it up into several partitions (probably one for / and one for /home so it saves your settings and stuff after a reinstall).
[02:00] <VeganChick> Error msg = "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[02:00] <Shaba1> Hello?
[02:00] <somniis> VeganChick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:01] <fannagoganna> will the kernel and grub installed with debootstrap work -- will it have the kernel modules to recognize the LVM2 partitions?
[02:01] <bruenig> !hi | Shaba1
[02:01] <ubotu> Shaba1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:01] <asc> etchris: My bad, spelling is 'crontab', no h.  Run 'man crontab' in a terminal.
[02:01] <PedroS> Shabal: I answered your question :)
[02:01] <VeganChick> somniis: where should I enter that command?
[02:01] <PedroS> that should do it
[02:01] <xtknight> mojo, didnt you say you couldn't connect to the tftp esrver?
[02:01] <somniis> VeganChick: it should bring up the cli after X fails, to allow you to log in
[02:01] <xtknight> mojo, i dont think it even attempts to connect untli you request a file, thus the failing though i could be wrong
[02:01] <userund> fannagoganna, unless you compile it yourself it should recognize it by default.  I don't know why you're bootstrapping though but anyway
[02:01] <VeganChick> ok, thanks a lot!
[02:01] <Jewbilee> Hey, I just installed ubuntu on an external hardrive.  Both the / and swap partitions are on the external harddrive.  My intent was to be able to run windows on my laptop, and when the external is with me, be able to boot ubuntu if wanted.    Error 21
[02:02] <somniis> np :)
[02:02] <VeganChick> hope it works...wish me luck!
[02:02] <Shaba1> I will scroll back PedroS
[02:02] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: grub (the boot loader) is looking for its configuration file, which lives in the ubuntu partition. It can't find it and thus can't load.
[02:02] <Jetfighter> jrib, I got it in, but now, I can't apply it :(
[02:02] <Shaba1> thanks pedro.
[02:02] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: well, i wasnt even expecting grub to load unless i booted from my external drive
[02:03] <fannagoganna> i am doing it this way because the 6.10 alternate CD's don't recognize my LVM2 partition
[02:03] <jrib> Jetfighter: what does it say when you try?
[02:03] <Shaba1> NOw off to partion logic
[02:03] <asc> etchris: Come to think of it, that man page isn't very helpful.  There's a more readable guide here: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucrontab.htm
[02:03] <Shaba1> Hopefully it will allow resize
[02:03] <Jetfighter> I select it, then nothing happens
[02:03] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: i should be booting from my internall HDD and that only has windows installed
[02:03] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: You can solve this by making a small (100mb) partition on your main hard drive and installing grub to that. Or else use a different boot loader of some sort.
[02:03] <Jetfighter> How do I apply it?
[02:03] <harry_> How do I set up my computer to run as a server for thin clients on a home network?
[02:03] <mojo> xtknight: i can run tftp on my desktop and connect to localhost and it works fine... but the efika is timeing out... it DOES get packets to me, though, as i see them in syslog with DPT=69 (dest port)
[02:03] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: is it possible that my boot order has been switched?
[02:03] <jrib> Jetfighter: selecting it suppose to apply it.  Are you using metacity? (not beryl or compiz)
[02:03] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: and its trying to boot from the external
[02:04] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: grub is installed to the master boot loader of the internal hard drive. For the effect you want to achieve, you'd need to install grub to the boot record of the external hard drive and then configure the bios to boot from the external hard drive first.
[02:04] <Jetfighter> jrib - I don't know.
[02:04] <jrib> Jetfighter: do your windows wobble?
[02:04] <xtknight> mojo, can you retrieve the linux image from another pc on your network though.  maybe it's only bound to localhoost..?
[02:04] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: what i want to be able to do is when the laptop is turned on, have it go straight to windows, unless i press f12 to boot specifically from the external
[02:04] <Zambezis> I tried to run rsync and when I tabbed I found this "|1|pqqrg+33MApZa77uu0ih8xPU7sM=|o78W1tBwVHfJDI7Ju20LlhNVXB8=:". What is that? It's not there when I ran ls -la
[02:04] <runtime> Will Feisty Fawn have Compiz or Beryl by default?
[02:04] <xtknight> mojo, or instead of using localhost at least use the 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x ip of your lan computer, i think that bypasses lo interface
[02:04] <mojo> xtknight: dunno... don't have any other linux boxen set up on the lan
[02:04] <xtknight> runtime, no
[02:04] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[02:05] <{NmE}> Can no one see what I type??
[02:05] <jrib> runtime: no, but it will have a menu option to enable it
[02:05] <mojo> xtknight: good suggestion.. will try
[02:05] <xtknight> {NmE}, im afraid we all can but none of us may know the answer
[02:05] <runtime> Ok thanks
[02:05] <xtknight> mojo, arent there windows tftp clients too
[02:05] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: What does f12 do?
[02:05] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: f12 on my main startup page is my "boot from" menu
[02:05] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: Is that from the bios or from software?
[02:05] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: itll let me choose interal, external, cdrom, blah blah you know
[02:06] <{NmE}> Has anyone used wine here? or no?
[02:06] <VeganChick> somniis: I forgot to write it down...copy-paste shuts down on reboot. lol
[02:06] <PedroS> someone knows when will the new Gnome 2.18 be available in the ubuntu repositories?
[02:06] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: bios
[02:06] <trev_> can anyone tell me what ubuntu app will execute a mdf file?
[02:06] <jrib> {NmE}: ask your real question
[02:06] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[02:06] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: Then I would put the windows boot loader back onto the internal hard drive's MBR and put grub on the external drive.
[02:06] <xtknight> {NmE}, #winehq
[02:06] <{NmE}> Thank you
[02:06] <Jetfighter> {NmE} - wine program.exe
[02:06] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: i dont know what you mean
[02:06] <mojo> xtknight: sure there problably are... btw i tested <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> locally and they work
[02:06] <Skwid_> what'S the difference btw mtab and fstab ?
[02:06] <xtknight> mojo, so it is able to save the linux image to a file and everything?
[02:07] <mojo> xtknight: the other boxen are my brother and roommate's pc's.. there is one in the living room i could go play with though
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, mtab is a record log of all <currently> mounted drives and their parameters.
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, if you remove something from mtab it has no way of knowing it is still mounted
[02:07] <{NmE}> Jetfighter, what do you want me to do with that? I cant put that in the term  can I?? I would not think that it would do anything..
[02:07] <mojo> xtknight: sure.
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, fstab is a table of how to mount the file systems
[02:07] <Skwid_> xtknight: hum, how come i have partitions mounted in mtab that are not in fstab ? and i did not mount them manually
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, automount
[02:07] <xtknight> Skwid_, example..?
[02:08] <Skwid_> xtknight: a fat32 partition ..
[02:08] <arrenlex> Jewbilee: Boot ubuntu. Run sudo grub-install /dev/<secondary drive here>. Then, restore windows' boot manager for your internal drive (you'd have to google or ask around about how to do that, I've never gone the other way down that road =))
[02:08] <Skwid_> it's not in fstab, but it is mounted, and in mtab
[02:08] <VeganChick> Can someone look back <5 min ago and see what command line somniis gave to me?
[02:08] <Jetfighter> jrib, I try to install a new theme, it's a tar.gz file...Not valid
[02:08] <invisibleman> anyone can help me config adsl on edgy?
[02:08] <xtknight> Skwid_, is it listed under 'mount'?  if so, paste the entry
[02:08] <Jewbilee> arrenlex: thanks, ill ask around
[02:08] <mojo> xtknight: i will try from the pc downstairs... bbiab
[02:08] <PedroS> Skwid: you or some script automatically mounted the partition without the need of fstab
[02:08] <jrib> Jetfighter: is this the same theme as before?  Didn't you say it installed?
[02:08] <Skwid_> VeganChick: <somniis> VeganChick: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:08] <VeganChick> thanks!
[02:09] <Zenerek> i use wine
[02:09] <{NmE}> OOO
[02:09] <{NmE}> help then!
[02:09] <Skwid_> xtknight: /dev/hda5 on /media/DATA type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)
[02:09] <{NmE}> please
[02:09] <{NmE}> I have a question about Wine.. When I run 'wine setup' everything seems to go fine.. It finishs, however, with this message.. 'wine: could not loadL"c:\\windows\\system32\ \setup.exe": Module not found'
[02:09] <jrib> !repeat | {NmE}
[02:09] <ubotu> {NmE}: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:09] <xtknight> Skwid_, ah yeah that's automatically mounted (don't know the details) by ubuntu
[02:09] <Skwid_> xtknight: weird ...
[02:09] <Skwid_> xtknight: i dont really care as much as it stays that way
[02:10] <xtknight> Skwid_, i tried to find out how the automount worked but didnt get very far
[02:10] <bruenig> {NmE}, if everything works fine, don't worry about it
[02:10] <peter77> I'm having some trouble getting totem to play mpeg4
[02:10] <fannagoganna> hi harry_, what are you trying to do?
[02:10] <{NmE}> I am.. been in here for almost an hour.. :P lol and I have been searching
[02:10] <xtknight> Skwid_, i dont know if it's a kernel/hal thing or what
[02:10] <peter77> I've tried installing mplayer and ffmpeg
[02:10] <{NmE}> Anyway, i think i almost have it
[02:10] <Skwid_> xtknight: ok, i like the magic though lol
[02:10] <peter77> I've also installed totem-xine
[02:10] <xtknight> {NmE}, um #winehq cant help?
[02:10] <arrenlex> peter77: totem sucks. Just use mplayer.
[02:10] <Zenerek> don't know what to say, mine installed fine, i using dapper
[02:10] <fannagoganna> hi peter77, i have a grand apt sources.list that would be useful
[02:10] <bruenig> {NmE}, wine spits out a bunch of stuff, you can generally ignore it
[02:10] <userund> !xvid | peter77
[02:10] <ubotu> peter77: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:10] <fannagoganna> you can just install from there and have an ffmpeg and mplayer that "just works"
[02:11] <Skwid_> is there a front end for manaing multiple monitors ? or do i have to manually edit xorg.conf ???
[02:11] <xtknight> why is -phigh a commonly used parameter for dpkg-reconfigure?  nothing in the man page seems to correspond properly with those parameters
[02:11] <peter77> Thanx
[02:11] <bruenig> Skwid_, just have two xorg.confs and mv them back and forth as needed
[02:11] <Jetfighter> jrib, PM me please?
[02:11] <{NmE}> Yeah, thats kinda the answer I was looking for bruenig
[02:11] <Skwid_> bruenig: that really sucks lol
[02:11] <rbil> does the command "init 3" still work in Edgy?
[02:11] <xtknight> rbil, yes
[02:11] <jrib> Jetfighter: just ask here
[02:11] <userund> xtknight, because it sets the defaults and you only have to answer one question instead of all of them
[02:12] <jrib> xtknight: -pvalue
[02:12] <invisibleman> anyone can help me config adsl on edgy?
[02:12] <Jetfighter> jrib, I'm trying to install xpde but Idk how. PLease help
[02:12] <xtknight> jrib, ohhh i got it.  -p with attribute of 'high'.  thanks
[02:12] <FiRaRdA> Arkadaslar ubuntu nvidia yuzunden aclmyor upgradeleri falan yaptm x'e ckamyorum ne yapmalym
[02:12] <bruenig> Skwid_, your question is kind of odd, no it doesn't have a front end, the only way the front end could work is using x...
[02:12] <bruenig> and you see the problem I hope
[02:12] <jrib> Jetfighter: ok, what is xpde?
[02:12] <Jetfighter> Theme, www.xpde.org
[02:12] <Skwid_> bruenig: hum ... windows has a front end :p
[02:12] <Jetfighter> .com*
[02:13] <xtknight> !tr | FiRaRdA
[02:13] <ubotu> FiRaRdA: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:13] <perverted> hey doods, just a pipe / grep question, how do i type this command for each line in list.txt ?: sudo route del {LINE FROM FILE list.txt} gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth0
[02:13] <FiRaRdA> thnks
[02:13] <Zenerek> hey almost forgot install automatix and have it install wine for you (installs newer version too)
[02:14] <Alonea> so, my computer will not shut down anymore after installing the binary drivers for my video card. video card is perfectly fine. acpi=off noacpi to my boot does not fix it either.
[02:14] <bruenig> Skwid_, it wouldn't be that hard to create a front end, I could probably create a script with zenity that was pretty much a front end
[02:14] <arrenlex> perverted: cat list.txt | while read line ; do sudo route del $line gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth0 ; done
[02:14] <bruenig> Skwid_, all you do is mv the xorg.conf and then restart x
[02:14] <bruenig> that is two commands
[02:14] <Daem> I would like to mount an Nforce raid that's partitioned as NTFS, can anyone point me in the right direction? (Ubuntu is installed on a different drive)
[02:14] <ScreaminIke> i'm inclined to encrypt my filesystems except for a very small /boot partition. but i want to know... if encrypt my /home partition, will i be able to access it if i reinstall the system (assuming i remember the passswords...)
[02:14] <Skwid_> bruenig: haha, you have to find the right parameters for xinerama though ... and that's not fun
[02:14] <Jetfighter> jrib?
[02:15] <jrib> Jetfighter: that's a different desktop environment (like GNOME), it's not a theme.  You'll probably need to compile it.  I don't see a package for it
[02:15] <SubMOA> TOP OF THE MORNING!
[02:15] <bruenig> Skwid_, well you have to create the xorg yeah, I thought you were just talking about switching between the two after you had created the two xorg.confs
[02:15] <perverted> arrenlex: thx
[02:15] <lisapc> azuerus keeps telling me perission denied when trying to install plugins and updates.  any solution pls?   do I need to give myself persission to use the azuerus folder?
[02:15] <Jetfighter> How can I do it jrib?
[02:15] <Skwid_> bruenig: no ...
[02:15] <userund> lisapc, try running azureus as root if you're doing it through az.
[02:15] <davascript_home> how can i add src to apt-get
[02:16] <davascript_home> which file do i add the server to
[02:16] <lisapc> userund, yes that works!  but isnt it dangerous running azuers are root all the time?
[02:16] <Slick_> hey guys I'm trying to install a virtualbox additions file which is VBoxAdditions.run can anyone give me any tips as how I can run it?
[02:16] <xtknight> davascript_home, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:16] <jrib> Jetfighter: http://www.xpde.com/releases.php
[02:16] <Legion> Hey. I'm pondering making the switch to Ubuntu from WinXP. I've been playing around with the liveCD a little and I kinda like it. One of my main problems is that there seems to be a sound problem. No sound what so ever! Is there a site where one can check if the hardware one has is supported?
[02:16] <xtknight> Slick_, sh asdf.run
[02:16] <Slick_> cheers
[02:16] <Helmi> hmm thought i'd find gvim in the repositories - anyone knows where i can get it?
[02:16] <davascript_home> thank you  would you know which src to add alos or a list or a website
[02:16] <bruenig> !sound
[02:16] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:16] <userund> lisapc, potentially, but you shouldn't run it ALL the time, all you need root privs for is to install them.
[02:17] <lisapc> userund, you are not being helpfu;l
[02:17] <xtknight> !info vim-gnome | Helmi
[02:17] <ubotu> helmi: vim-gnome: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 1796 kB
[02:17] <lisapc> userund, can I sudo chmod +x the azur folder?
[02:17] <Slick_> its working xtknight, cheers, I'll remember that
[02:17] <xtknight> Helmi, found it via 'apt-cache search gvim'
[02:17] <davascript_home> thansk you xtknight
[02:17] <enlightenedpsych> hey anyone know how I can change the default language of the profile currently used?
[02:17] <userund> lisapc, heh, I'm not being helpful.  nevermind.
[02:17] <xtknight> davascript_home, no problem.  not sure i understand the question about 'src' though
[02:17] <Helmi> xtknight: thanks will relook that
[02:18] <davascript_home> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[02:18] <davascript_home> deb-src sorry
[02:18] <xtknight> yea
[02:18] <lisapc> userund, you are trolling
[02:18] <userund> lisapc, I gave you the solution.  you don't have to use it, but don't attack me for it.
[02:18] <xtknight> lisapc, don't think you know what trolling is
[02:18] <Helmi> xtknight: arrggl ok it's named "vim-gnome" not "gvim" :)
[02:19] <xtknight> Helmi, ah yeah...well did you see the msg from ubotu?
[02:19] <AMD> hi , i have just mounted a drive ...is it possible to have write access with out having to be root ? its not ntfs
[02:19] <lisapc> userund, you should not tell new ubuntu users to run anything as root.
[02:19] <harry_> can i run the terminal-server client app installed in the internet menu by default off a live cd?
[02:19] <bruenig> lisapc, what is the problem...
[02:19] <Helmi> xtknight: yeah but i missed that the vim-gnome part at the beginning is the package name
[02:19] <xtknight> AMD, hmm umask=  option i belive
[02:19] <Jetfighter> lisapc, what fool are you? I've used this for less than 5 days, I'm using sudo stuff...
[02:19] <real_aussie> Hi, anyone, I get UDP packets arriving from the net at about 1.8kb/sec: Anyone know how do I log and inspect these to see what they are?
[02:19] <xtknight> AMD, or uid= or user= ....
[02:20] <brando> is there someone who can help me with my initial boot.  ubuntu is being stubborn and the forums arent giving me a concrete answer
[02:20] <xtknight> real_aussie, Wireshark
[02:20] <nexousNET> Hi
[02:20] <bruenig> Jetfighter, seems like years
[02:20] <userund> lisapc, you don't know what you're talking about.  I won't bother with you anymore.
[02:20] <IamUnsai1> good evening everyone
[02:20] <nexousNET> Okay, I've tried this a ton of times, How can I get MonteCarlo, windows font onto ubuntu?
[02:20] <sethk> real_aussie, ethereal is very easy to use
[02:20] <xtknight> !ask | brando
[02:20] <ubotu> brando: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:20] <bruenig> !howdy | IamUnsai1
[02:20] <ubotu> IamUnsai1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:20] <Jetfighter> bruenig, shhhh pl0x.
[02:20] <xtknight> wireshark = new name for ethereal
[02:20] <sethk> real_aussie, tcpdump is the underly8ing program that captures the packets
[02:20] <Jetfighter> !themes > Jetfighter
[02:21] <AMD> confused :)
[02:21] <h3xagram> hello im having an issue installing tftp.. im getting this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/10700/
[02:21] <real_aussie> xtknight, sethk, etc: thanks.
[02:21] <xtknight> AMD, well what filesystem, ext3?
[02:21] <h3xagram> any help is greatly appreciated
[02:21] <Zenerek> ok need help here, am trying to add a second group to this other user using usermode but i it tells me the group does not exist and it does i created it using addgroup, i think i may be giving the wrong commands     usermod user -G firestarter    (note i created a group called firestarter)
[02:21] <rbil> What is causing Edgy to dump "crash" files in /var/crash and how can this "feature" be turned off?
[02:21] <nexousNET> How do i add .FON, .PCF, .BDF fones?
[02:21] <AMD> xtknight:yes
[02:21] <nexousNET> fonts*?
[02:21] <OrcD3vil> I'm trying to install ubuntu and I'm trying to find out how do I go about taking my 2 hard drives that are 200 gigs each and spanning them on to the same Volume for Ubuntu?
[02:21] <brando> thx and sry.  as i do an inital boot through the ubuntu cd it stops and says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:21] <bruenig> h3xagram, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:21] <lisapc> userund, go troll elsewhere