[10:39] <smartboyhw> Is jbicha awake? LOL
[12:54] <smartboyhw> Well yo jbicha
[15:24] <smartboyhw> OK so jbicha is back:)
[15:27] <smartboyhw> oops'
[22:01] <jbicha> darkxst: hey, do you want to submit another casper merge proposal?


[01:35] <pleia2> there, all sorted
[16:16]  * pleia2 cleaned up pending fridge spam
[16:16] <pleia2> what a mess


[06:47] <wilee-nilee>  /j #ubuntuforums
[09:54] <s-fox> Hello :)
[12:58] <jobinar> Hi!
[12:58] <jobinar> I m a moderately new user to Ubuntu, and am interested in finding out new things in it
[12:59] <jobinar> Can anyone tell me which file gets changed when I do a sudo apt-get update?
[13:00] <jobinar> I mean I want to know where is the list of all the softwares in my system....
[13:00] <jobinar> Any help appreciated!
[13:00] <bioterror> it's /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[13:00] <bioterror> and /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin
[13:00] <jobinar> Thanks a lot bioterror!!!
[13:01] <jobinar> I am not able to read the contents fo the file. It seems to be a binary file
[13:01] <jobinar> Can I in anyway read this?
[13:02] <jobinar> Or is there a text version available?
[13:02] <bioterror> you want to list all the stuff you have installed?
[13:02] <jobinar> no
[13:02] <bioterror> what you are after?
[13:02] <jobinar>  I came to know that is here /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:02] <jobinar> I want to know where are "all" the softwares availble for download kept on my system...
[13:02] <jobinar> for some foolish reasons u can say
[13:03] <bioterror> files you have used for installing programs?
[13:03] <bioterror> I'm trying to understand what you're after
[13:04] <jobinar> no buddy, I mean, when I type the name of a software not installed on my system, it comes to know that it is not installed but there is software by that name?
[13:04] <jobinar> how does it come to know this?
[13:06] <jobinar> Hope u got my intention
[13:06] <bioterror> yes, when you type a command in shell, it tells you command not found, but you can install it
[13:06] <bioterror> like htop, for example
[13:06] <jobinar> ya
[13:08] <jobinrv> sorry for the interruption, my connection got reset
[13:08] <bioterror> it's a bash script, I assume
[13:09] <jobinrv> is the list of files not stored anywhere on my system, then?
[13:09] <jobinrv> like the list of softwares installed on my system....
[13:10] <Amijai> i cannot log in to my GTalk accounts on precise
[13:10] <Amijai> claimes the password is incorrect, although I know for a fact it's correct!
[13:11] <Amijai> jobinrv: what was your question? I just got here
[13:11] <jobinrv> i wanted to know where is the list of all the softwares available for download stored on my system...
[13:12] <jobinrv> the way   /var/lib/dpkg/status stores the list of installed softwares
[13:13] <Amijai> I don't think you can vrowse the list
[13:13] <Amijai> is in a tar.gz file
[13:13] <Amijai> what are you looking for exactly?
[13:13] <jobinrv> i just want to know how does the shell come to know that there is no software installed on my PC named "XYZ", when i type XYZ but it knows that it is a software
[13:13] <bioterror> jobinrv, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandNotFoundMagic
[13:14] <Amijai> you could install apt-file to figure out which package holds a certain file
[13:14] <jobinrv> i just want to know this for some silly reason
[13:14] <bioterror> jobinrv, I gave you what you're looking for ;)
[13:15] <jobinrv> thanks bioterror, will check it in a moment
[13:15] <Amijai> I am no Ubuntu developer, but I guess it has to do with the updatedb mechanism
[13:16] <Amijai> it compares the installed package list with the last list it got from apt-get update
[13:17] <jobinrv> Thanks bioterror, Amijai! Got it!
[13:17] <bioterror> /usr/lib64/python2.7/dist-packages/CommandNotFound/CommandNotFound.py
[13:17] <jobinrv> \m/
[13:17] <bioterror> https://launchpad.net/command-not-found
[23:35] <Petskull> I want to reach files on a USB drive (always on/connected) via ftp.  I tried 'ln -ds <path_usb>' to make symlinks, but they don't show up in the ftp.  Then, of course, ln -d to a usb drive failed.  Any ideas?


[00:17] <OvenWerks> sudo reboot
[00:18]  * OvenWerks looks forward to focus floows mind
[01:36] <Eickmeyer> HAHAHA
[03:50] <MauroGaspari[m]> <RikMills "Mauro Gaspari: nothing in partic"> Got it. Upgraded my main desktop to 21.04 on both Ubuntu Budgie (with ubuntu studio goodies) and also another set of ssd wirh ubuntu studio. So far it seems all good for the most part. Lowlatency kernel issues here and there. Will have more feedback next week.


[05:21] <Guest42341> good morning all
[05:22]  * Guest42341 such a beautiful day, today. great for science and such
[05:23] <khod> yes
[06:22] <elimisteve> greetings :-)
[06:31] <guest123124> i need coffee
[06:33] <guest123124> ☕☕☕
[10:13]  * Mirv tries to get both phone and KDE on xenial work on the Qt 5.5.1 PPA before the Qt session in <4h :)
[10:14] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Stress Awareness Day! 😃
[10:30] <abeato> tsdgeos, morning, could you give a try to the now updated silo 9? It should improve the freeze, although you will see it is not not 100% gone
[10:32] <tsdgeos> abeato: busy somewhere else, will try to have a look this afternoon
[10:32] <abeato> tsdgeos, great, thanks
[11:06] <victor_bq> does any body miss the keyboard pop up in r26?
[11:06] <victor_bq> I'm looking for people whose keyboard is not being shown
[11:07] <mcphail> victor_bq: happens to me at times
[11:07] <victor_bq> in all apps? just Ubuntu store?
[11:08] <mcphail> victor_bq: when it goes missing, it doesn't come back in any app until reboot
[11:08] <mcphail> victor_bq: has happened to me twice, but I haven't explored further
[11:11] <victor_bq> wow
[11:11] <victor_bq> take a look please https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1506753
[11:12] <victor_bq> that's right is where I attached some logs
[11:12] <victor_bq> is not critical but a little anoying :(
[11:13] <om26er> Hi! How can I programmatically check if I am on 3G or Wifi ? is there a command for that ?
[11:17] <mcphail> victor_bq: the bug report is not very well written, unfortunately, so I can't really +1 it as I don't know if my experience is the same
[11:18] <popey> om26er, does the qt connectivity api help?
[11:19] <om26er> popey, no, I am looking for something commandline/pythonic
[11:19] <popey> om26er, ahh, "nmcli d"
[11:21] <popey> om26er, should see a couple of lines (on bq) for the ril devices (two sims) and one for wifi
[11:21] <om26er> popey, thanks, that'll help
[11:21] <popey> om26er, also look at /proc/net/dev
[11:23] <popey> om26er, interested to know what you decide to use :)
[11:23] <om26er> popey, i'll probably go with with nmcli
[11:23] <popey> ok
[11:26] <zzarr> hello! is there a list of fixes for OTA-8?
[11:33] <guest123124> zzarr, https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/ww46-2015 ?
[11:33] <zzarr> thanks guest123124
[11:39] <Dragonkeeper> anyone know how to create a drop down menu in an app ?
[11:46] <oSoMoN> greyback_, hey, do you have an ETA for landing https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/qtubuntu/ubuntuscreen-physicalsize/+merge/273965 ?
[11:46] <greyback_> oSoMoN: it's in silo21, which Saviq is handling
[11:46] <greyback_> oSoMoN: one last issue was found, fix in progress
[11:47] <Saviq> oSoMoN, will hopefully be QA Ready later today
[11:47] <oSoMoN> excellent, thanks guys
[11:47] <oSoMoN> that’s one huge silo
[12:13] <guest123124> hi, i have question
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> guest123124: ask
[13:16] <mhall119> Mirv: are you all set to host the Qt for 16.04 session in ~45 minutes?
[13:28] <Mirv> mhall119: otherwise yes, I just need to know if I need to do any setupping of hangout our if you will just give me an url 10 minutes before the session starts
[13:28] <Mirv> s/our/or/
[13:29] <mhall119> Mirv: it would be better if you set it up yourself, you have the access
[13:29] <mhall119> Mirv: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions explains how to do it
[13:30] <Mirv> mhall119: ah, thanks for the link, the summit <-> wiki interlinking is not that heavy
[13:30] <mhall119> yeah, we've got some low-priority work items to improve that
[13:40] <wligtenberg> My scopes seem to hang when I move to the video scope. I cannot find a way to get it to work again, except for a full reboot. Does anybody know how to restart the scope thing?
[13:42] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, do you have big video files on your phone? I've been experiencing this earlier today, while copying a large video to the phone.
[13:42] <wligtenberg> @davidcalle I don't think so
[13:42] <wligtenberg> but let me check
[13:43] <davidcalle> jamesh, does it look like mediascanner stalling to you? ^
[13:44] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, to restart scopes, you can run "restart unity8-dash"
[13:45] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, it just restarts the scopes UI and should be enough to unlock you
[13:45] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: ok got to have the terminal in the shortcuts then :)
[13:46] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, right :)
[13:46] <jamesh> davidcalle: the mediascanner shouldn't be able to stop the dash UI from responding
[13:46] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: will do that now then :D, btw I have no videos on this device.
[13:47] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, ok
[13:47] <guest123124> last night i caught mediascanner eating my battery and i killed it
[13:47] <guest123124> twice
[13:48] <jamesh> guest123124: is that on a device with removable storage?
[13:48] <guest123124> jamesh, nope
[13:49] <wligtenberg> Aah, it is the Video scope
[13:49] <wligtenberg> with youtube stuff etc
[13:49] <jamesh> I'd be interested to know what it looked like it was doing
[13:50] <wligtenberg> I just swipe there, and it freezes
[13:50] <wligtenberg> I end up halfway there
[13:50] <wligtenberg> My guess it will be trying to pull stuff from the internet
[13:51] <Mirv> mhall119: was there some ubuntu overlay for the lower third?
[13:52] <Mirv> mhall119: nevermind, added logo plus color
[13:52] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, it does, but it shouldn't freeze for this, you should trying taking a short vid with the camera app, and see if it freezes again if the "My videos" scope (aggregated by the "Videos" scope) isn't empty.
[13:53]  * davidcalle brb
[13:57] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: I did that, I see the new video in the top left of the Video scope, but it still freezes halfway, so I actually see it on the right of my screen.
[13:57] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: I did that, I see the new video in the top left of the Video scope, but it still freezes halfway, so I actually see it on the right of my screen.
[13:58] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: repeated in case you don't use something like irssi :)
[13:58] <davidcalle> wligtenberg, I don't :) Ok, I'll see if I can reproduce on my end
[13:58] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: I'm on a nexus4
[14:08] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: and when I deactivate the Videos scope, it happens on the Ubuntu store scope, which was before the Videos scope. So maybe it is trying to preload the next scope, and then the problem is in the next scope, not this one...
[14:09] <mcphail> Was there any news about timeframes for the phone to switch to snappy from the keynote yesterday?
[14:13] <wligtenberg> davidcalle: and then I disable another one and it moves to the one in front of the app store... weirdness
[14:36] <stripe> Hi all, do I need a ubuntu pc to install touch to a nexus 7 (2013)? (use debian on my pc's)
[14:44] <mcphail> stripe: i _think_ so, unfortunately
[14:45] <stripe> mcphail: thanks, will set it up on one of my servers :)
[15:32] <Mirv> vitimiti: thanks, I found your bug #1513098 an added the qt5.5 tag there!
[15:32] <vitimiti> Mirv, perfect
[15:34] <Mirv> vitimiti: oh and also, calibre is now there
[15:34] <Mirv> and built
[15:34] <vitimiti> Mirv, will try
[15:35] <vitimiti> Mirv, calibre-bin can't be installed
[15:35] <vitimiti> qtbase-abi-5-4-2 can't be installed
[15:37] <Mirv> vitimiti: did you apt update? that sounds like it's trying to install the old version
[15:37] <vitimiti> Mirv, hm, let me try
[15:43] <vitimiti> Mirv, done, it works, thank you
[15:45] <Mirv> vitimiti: you're welcome!
[16:03] <khod> Kenvandine everything going well so far pulling apart the flappy clone. I've removed the collision for the ground so it can be rode on, and fixed the jump and gravity to my liking........but how can i make something just jump and not fly?
[16:59] <stripe> hi all flashing a nexus7 (2013) \nd getting a "cant flash recovery image" error when trying to install touch, any ideas?
[16:59] <stripe> *and
[17:39] <geniewgen> Привет! Подскажите навигацию для toch
[17:40] <k1l> geniewgen: most guys in here read/write english so that would have better chances to get support.
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/more-fixes-added-for-ubuntu-touch-ota-8-495721.shtml
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> nice1 sil2100
[18:51] <dobey> ooh, we're going to get stable image numbers across devices? huzzah!
[18:52] <stripe> hi all, instaling to a 2013 nexus 7, now getting a "Cache formatting was not successful" error, anything I can do about it?
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> stripe: wich channel did you install?
[18:53] <stripe> stable, the default from the wiki
[18:53] <geniewgen> RUS?
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> stripe: try devel-proposed for nexus7 mate
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> stripe: i run it myself
[18:55] <stripe> lotuspsychje:  thanks mate, would that would read touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu ?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> stripe: yes
[18:56] <stripe> lotuspsychje: sweet, thaqnks man :)
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> stripe: works like a charm here, and seems best channel for the nexus7 too
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> stripe: did you buy it new? or 2nd hand?
[18:57] <stripe> lotuspsychje: I have had it since new, got it when first released,
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> stripe: ah just asking because heard roumors google stopped selling them
[18:58] <stripe> I have heard the same
[18:58] <dobey> stripe: did you have android 5.x on the device?
[19:00] <stripe> dobey: yes 5.1.1 I think, was up to date, just didnt go to 6 whith my other devices
[19:00] <dobey> stripe: reflash to 4.4.4, boot into android, reboot to fastboot, and then do ubuntu-device-flash with the --bootstrap option
[19:01] <dobey> the android 5.x recovery/kernel messes things up and ubuntu currently only flashes correctly if it had 4.4 on it
[19:01] <stripe> thanks dobey will try that
[20:07] <stripe> lotuspsychje: dobey cheers lads, just tried a different cable and a motherboard mounted usb port and it seems to be loading great now :)  thanks very much
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> stripe: on devel-proposed?
[20:09] <stripe> sticking with stable till i learn the OS
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> keep in mind devel-proposed might work better
[20:10] <stripe> lotuspsychje: will do, but until i learn how to fix things, lol
[20:58] <dobey> mardy: where is the source code for the actual UI that gets embedded in the gtk+ control-center on ubuntu-desktop images?
[21:24] <mterry> alecu, I have a couple apps that could implement IAP if you need more people to pilot it
[21:31] <alecu> mterry: that would be great, thanks! I'll add you to the lp team
[23:43] <uzgidebas> hi. i have a q
[23:43] <uzgidebas> is anyone tried to install ubuntu touch on iphone?
[23:45] <k1l> does the iphone have a open bootloader?
[23:45] <k1l> and where to get all the linux drivers then
[23:47] <uzgidebas> idk.. i wish if i can install linux on my iphone.. finally we have ubuntu touch/linux os
[23:47] <uzgidebas> but idk how :(
[23:48] <k1l> not possible. if you want a phone to flash other OS, never buy a iphone.
[23:52] <uzgidebas> :( iphone have iOS which is amazing... but i wish linux on my iphone... thx k1l, i must buy another cellphone then


[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[10:25] <blackz> hi!
[10:25] <MohamedAlaa98> Can please someone explain me the error in this build? : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/117498874/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.gtk-nodoka-engine_0.7.5-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[10:25] <tumbleweed> blackz: been a while
[10:26] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: looks like it was #including gtimer.h rather than glib.h
[10:27] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: I don't know but the build done succesfully on precise
[10:27] <blackz> tumbleweed: heh yeah..
[10:28] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: https://launchpad.net/~m-alaa8/+archive/ppa/+build/3804692
[10:29] <MohamedAlaa98> any ideas?
[10:29] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: something changed in gtk/glib?
[10:30] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: maybe the version in precise differs from quantal
[10:31] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: I don't know I came here for help
[10:31] <tumbleweed> I'd be very suprised if it didn't
[10:31] <geser> we had this same change also in precise but it was backed out again because it caused to much FTBFS and redone for quantal again
[10:32] <tumbleweed> there are quite a lot still to be fixed: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?tag=glib-single-include&user=pkg-gnome-maintainers%40lists.alioth.debian.org
[10:33] <MohamedAlaa98> that means it's a bug in nodoka engine itself?
[10:33] <geser> yes
[10:34] <geser> glib upstream decided that only glib.h should be included and nodoka-engine didn't adapt to it yet
[10:35] <MohamedAlaa98> Ok, Thank you very much geser, tumbleweed :)
[10:35] <Laney> it would be good to do some build log analysis from the rebuild test and file tagged bugs on this
[10:35] <Laney> quite a worthwhile bug fixing initiative
[12:53] <AnAnt> Hello, B2 should be released tonight ?
[13:04] <tumbleweed> yes
[13:20] <xnox> AnAnt: tonight for you, tomorrow morning for some.
[13:20] <xnox> 48 hours in a day after all =)
[13:23] <highvoltage> there's something very wrong in the tone of the ubuntu coc 2 draft.
[13:23] <highvoltage> it almost feels advarsarial or passive aggressive somehow, I can't pin the right word for it
[13:24] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: I'm a beginer here :) I want start with package upgrading from upstream :) can you please give me a simple work to do? and a little advice :) thank you :)
[13:24] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: now is not a useful time to be doing that
[13:24] <tumbleweed> we are releasing beta 2 today. We really aren't going around looking for things to update
[13:25] <MohamedAlaa98> Hmmm, what can I do now?
[13:25] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: yeah, I'm feeling that attitude from sabdfl in general, atm
[13:26] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: if you're a beginner, the most useful thing for you to do is learn some packaging skills. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative
[13:27] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: if you want to do something useful: find a neglected buggy package, and see if we can do something about it
[13:27] <highvoltage> tumbleweed: I've seen that for a long time so I guess it's something that I've accepted, but I liked the overall simplicity and positiveness of the old CoC, it set a stern and positive tone. the new one seems like a big regression. I can see how someone new to the project can read that and think "hmm, maybe this isn't for me"
[13:28] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: it certainly felt like something we should aspire to, in the past
[13:30]  * tumbleweed isn't finding this draft particularly adversarial, though (but still reading it)
[13:31] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: Ok :) thanks a lot
[13:34] <freeflying> dholbach: ping
[13:40] <highvoltage> tumbleweed: yeah that might have not been the right word, I'll have to think about it carefully before responsding
[13:41] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: I suspect it's at least partially due to the shortening of teh CoC
[13:42] <AnAnt> xnox: thanks
[13:46] <highvoltage> tumbleweed: ah the new one seemed quite longer to me
[13:48] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: I haven't diffed it for this revision. But in general, v2 added the leadership stuff, and removed cruft
[14:16] <dholbach> freeflying, pong
[14:17] <freeflying> dholbach: figured it out, thanks :)
[14:17] <dholbach> alright :)
[15:00] <geser> MohamedAlaa98: do you intent to try to fix the gtk-nodoka-engine FTBFS? I see that you reported a bug about it
[15:01] <MohamedAlaa98> geser: I just reported the bug and let them handle it
[15:01] <MohamedAlaa98> How can I fix it?
[15:03] <geser> in short: grab the source package, fix it (the fix is trivial), create a debdiff, attach it to your bug, add it to the sponsoring queue
[15:03] <Laney> geser: do you have a list?
[15:04]  * micahg hopes we don't end up with >1k build failures since it's so late in the cycle
[15:04] <MohamedAlaa98> hmm ok I'll try to fix it
[15:04] <geser> Laney: no, I just go through the FTBFS page for the rebuild and check for easy (time-wise) fixes
[15:04] <Laney> ok
[15:04] <micahg> current projections based on src pkg #s would be around 400
[15:05] <Laney> yeah, ideally we'd have had one earlier in the cycle
[15:05] <Laney> DIF?
[15:05] <micahg> AIUI we should've had 2 already :(
[15:05] <Laney> I remember discussing it in a session but not what was decided
[15:05] <geser> I try to get the quick fixes done first (better time usage) and focus on the time-consuming later (if I have available time left)
[15:06] <micahg> DIF or FF were the test points for the first round mention, neither happened
[15:06] <ogra_> micahg, did that planning take a DC move into account ?
[15:06] <micahg> ogra_: DIF would've been fine as it was long before the DC move
[15:07] <ogra_> oh, yeah
[15:07] <geser> MohamedAlaa98: if you have any questions or get stuck, just ask here
[15:07] <micahg> but it seems like a lot of the failures are gcc 4.7 and glib includes
[15:07] <micahg> at least the ones I've peeked at
[15:07] <Laney> that was an explicit reason for putting the glib include error back early in the cycle
[15:08] <Laney> we'd find them early and then be able to fix them, since the fix is so trivial
[15:08] <micahg> right, so that they would be fixed, but without a test rebuild they were blissfully forgotten about
[15:08] <Laney> sadly do
[15:08] <Laney> so
[15:09] <Laney> I suppose we could revert that and try again for R :-/
[15:10] <geser> do you think we will have a better success then?
[15:10] <Laney> depends if the effort is invested
[15:10] <Laney> we can leave it for a little while yet, see how we do now
[15:11] <ogra_> aarch64 might land in R, that would require a full archive rebuild in any case
[15:11] <geser> we would need an early test rebuild done to catch those but it's usually not done with the archive in flux due to auto-syncs (enough FTBFS from it)
[15:12] <ogra_> (no idea about the timeline here, just guessing)
[15:12] <cjwatson> I've got a month of +1 maintenance yet to use to attack these :)
[15:13]  * micahg hopefully has a month of +1 as well
[15:13] <cjwatson> ogra_: It wouldn't require rebuilding anything on existing architectures, surely
[15:13] <cjwatson> micahg: Oh good
[15:13] <geser> is there a quick switch to not have dch put UNRELEASED into the changelog or to have pass -D quantal everytime?
[15:13] <ogra_> cjwatson, well, but it would make sense to do it on all arches if we do it for aarch64 anyway
[15:14] <cjwatson> I vaguely remember that being controlled by DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC
[15:14] <cjwatson> ogra_: We never have before for new ports
[15:14] <cjwatson> And a full rebuild is a big mirror hit
[15:14] <ogra_> just saying its an opportunity to do it in one go
[15:14]  * Laney never remembers what the release heuristics do
[15:15] <geser> ogra_: do you volunteer to do a rebuild upload of every package for it?
[15:15] <cjwatson> That isn't an opportunity, it's a risk :-)
[15:50] <obounaim> Please I need sponsoring here can any body review my merge proposal?
[15:52] <Laney> obounaim: is it really urgent?
[15:52] <Laney> if not, as long as it appears in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html it'll get looked at :-)
[15:53]  * Laney blinks at the swathe of misc:Depends branches there
[15:54] <obounaim> Laney, no it is not urgent but It has a while in there
[15:55] <Laney> ah, well I see them. Somebody will hopefully get to them soon
[15:55] <obounaim> Laney, yes hopefully
[15:56] <Laney> hmm, I should get on the pilot schedule really
[15:56] <Laney> dholbach: ^ ;-)
[15:56] <dholbach> laney: with pleasure
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> how can i force apt-get to install dependencies?
[15:56] <xnox> Laney: yeah. But they are good to teach about packaging. E.g. mispelled (LP: #) or forgotten patches (direct modifications) or not updated maintainer field.
[15:56] <TheLordOfTime> its not installing the openjdk-6-jre dependencies, so...
[15:56] <Laney> xnox: I understand the idea.
[15:57] <TheLordOfTime> is there an argument i can provide to *force* dependency resolution?
[15:59] <dholbach> laney: added yourself - feel free to move it to some other day if that suits you better
[16:00] <Laney> thanking you
[16:01] <micahg> thelordOfTime: umm, there's -f, but that won't work if there's a real problem
[16:01] <TheLordOfTime> micahg:  lemme pastebin the errors, perhaps there's something i'm missing...
[16:02] <TheLordOfTime> or something dreadfully wrong with Precise
[16:03] <TheLordOfTime> micahg:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1230639/  <-- the errors i'm getting
[16:03] <TheLordOfTime> there's also a pinning error according to apt, but i can't find it  :/
[16:04] <TheLordOfTime> and it always shows up.
[16:04] <micahg> apt-cache policy | grep ^0 ?
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> oh i see where it is
[16:05] <TheLordOfTime> one moment
[16:05] <micahg> thelordOfTime: you can use -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true to see what it causing the issue
[16:07] <TheLordOfTime> micahg:  well, the apt pinning issue is unknown, its still showing up, and the grepped line from your command is not useful, just says this: W: No priority (or zero) specified for pin
[16:08] <micahg> well, you can look over apt-cache policy to see if anything is unusua;
[16:09] <TheLordOfTime> and now i'm getting update manager crashes because the "package system is broken"
[16:09] <TheLordOfTime> what hell is happening here...?
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[16:11] <TheLordOfTime> oh wait a sec
[16:13] <MohamedAlaa98> Hello guys :) I've a notice
[16:13] <MohamedAlaa98> in this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[16:13] <TheLordOfTime> well, that was... different...
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> micahg:  apparently someone tried to install a package here that broke everything
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> and apt was whining because on this system, there were apt pins for each repo (main, -updates, -security, etc.)
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> *shrugs*
[16:14] <MohamedAlaa98> you forgot to add launchpad building part :)
[16:14] <TheLordOfTime> removing the apt pinning prefs fixed that issue, and purging the attempted-to-install package fixed that issue
[16:15] <TheLordOfTime> time for sourcebuilds :P
[16:17] <MohamedAlaa98> sorry for interrupting
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> no problem, was just mostly me griping about apt not working and something related to apt not resolving dependencies
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> carry on, dude :)
[16:19] <MohamedAlaa98> :D
[16:20] <MohamedAlaa98> did you realize what i said?
[16:26] <MohamedAlaa98> hello?
[16:27]  * dholbach hugs laney
[16:27]  * dholbach hugs laney
[16:27]  * dholbach hugs laney
[16:27]  * dholbach hugs laney
[16:27]  * dholbach hugs laney
[16:28]  * MohamedAlaa98 hugs laney too :)
[16:29] <Laney> :-)
[16:29]  * Laney hugs dholbach
[16:31] <ogra_> was that a hug for every donated dollar ?
[16:31]  * MohamedAlaa98 is awaiting for anyone to respond him
[16:35] <Laney> is it just me that can't boot recent dailies in vbox?
[16:35] <Laney> 5 minutes to get a grub selection, 5 more minutes to see plymouth, 5 minutes later that goes away to show me the console with loads of service stopping, then it goes black
[16:41] <Laney> 12.04.1 works well
[16:56] <MohamedAlaa98> sorry for disconnecting
[16:58] <MohamedAlaa98> I've done a fix, but I can't understad this step: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included any ideas?
[16:59] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed
[17:02] <MohamedAlaa98> sorrfor disconnecting
[17:02] <MohamedAlaa98> *sorry for
[17:02] <MohamedAlaa98> any ideas?
[17:03] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: you haven't said what the problem is
[17:04] <MohamedAlaa98> oh, connection problems
[17:04] <MohamedAlaa98> I've done a fix, but I can't understad this step: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug-example.html#getting-the-fix-included what should I do?
[17:04] <tumbleweed> you haven't said what you don't understand
[17:04] <tumbleweed> also, please don't highlite me if you are just looking for someone to ansewr a question
[17:04] <MohamedAlaa98> ok, sorry
[17:05] <MohamedAlaa98> I can't understand how to get fix included
[17:05] <mitya57> MohamedAlaa98: that section is mostly for submitting the patch to debian/upstream
[17:05] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: what did you fix?
[17:05] <mitya57> MohamedAlaa98: Debian has already a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/665549
[17:06] <mitya57> you can submit the patch there
[17:06] <MohamedAlaa98> homepage missing staff
[17:06] <mitya57> ah, sorry, you are talking about another thing
[17:06] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: the missing homepage bugs listed on that wiki page are ubuntu-only packages
[17:06] <MohamedAlaa98> mitya57 np :)
[17:06] <tumbleweed> they aren't in debian
[17:06] <MohamedAlaa98> yes i know :)
[17:07] <tumbleweed> so, follow the link to the ubuntu sponsoring process
[17:07] <MohamedAlaa98> okay
[17:10] <MohamedAlaa98> oops there's a added homepage in quantal https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/z3c.pt
[17:12] <MohamedAlaa98> should I push my fix?
[17:12] <tumbleweed> if it's already done, I don't see any point
[17:13] <MohamedAlaa98> :( but you haven't marked it fixed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative
[17:13] <tumbleweed> it's not *me* who hasn't marked it there :)
[17:13] <tumbleweed> obounaim: ^^
[17:14]  * MohamedAlaa98 want's to cry :(
[17:15] <tumbleweed> well, now you know what to do :)
[17:17] <obounaim> MohamedAlaa98, refresh your browser.
[17:17] <MohamedAlaa98_> browser?
[17:17] <MohamedAlaa98_> what do you mean?
[17:18] <obounaim> MohamedAlaa98, I have marked them as fix proposed
[17:18] <obounaim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative
[17:20] <MohamedAlaa98> obounaim: can you please repost what you said?
[17:21] <MohamedAlaa98> obounaim: sorry network problems.
[17:22] <obounaim> MohamedAlaa98, Concerning the bugs listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative that I have fixed they are now marked as fix proposed
[17:22] <MohamedAlaa98> obounaim: ok :)
[17:23] <MohamedAlaa98> obounaim: it's my mistake I should review all sections of a package before doing something
[17:39] <tumbleweed> MohamedAlaa98: I think it's just bad luck (and something that will happen when everyone works from the top of a list)
[17:40] <MohamedAlaa98> :D
[18:05] <MohamedAlaa98> tumbleweed: obounaim hasn't let anythng in this page t fix
[18:05] <MohamedAlaa98> *to
[18:05] <MohamedAlaa98> I mean No homepage field bugs
[18:06] <MohamedAlaa98> where I can find more?
[18:06] <MohamedAlaa98> *can i
[18:06] <jtaylor> MohamedAlaa98: you can check this list for useful syncs: http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/universe.html#outdatedinB
[18:07] <MohamedAlaa98> jtaylor: ok, thanks


[10:00] <larry> hi everyone, I just installed and made a mistake. need to change username
[10:03] <larry> anyone help ?
[10:12] <tomreyn> hi larry
[10:13] <tomreyn> i must admit i haven't used ubuntu *mate* specifically, but i know that other ubuntu flavors let you add and remove users in settings
[10:15] <tomreyn> the best way to change your username is probably to create a new user (with superuser/admin permissions), then logout,  and login to that, then copy all the files from the old user to the new one, and recursively update their owner to the new user, and then delete the old user.
[10:45] <larry> thanks, sadly there does not seem to be a option in settings for user changes, leastwise I haven't been bale to find it.
[10:46] <larry> able
[11:26] <tomreyn> larry: you can add a new user using the "adduser" command on a terminal emulator, with sudo
[11:26] <tomreyn> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/en/man8/adduser.8.html
[11:26] <tomreyn> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/en/man8/deluser.8.html to remove a user
[11:42] <larry> thanks will try that..


[08:53] <Saviq> trainguards, can you please retry the u8 armhf build in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1604 thanks
[08:53] <sil2100> Saviq: done
[08:54] <Saviq> tx
[08:54] <sil2100> yw
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[10:03] <Mirv> seb128: hi! so we have a ready PPA otherwise, but could you binNEW review the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-007/+sourcepub/6740678/+listing-archive-extra ? it's almost normal empty transitional package, but with a twist that it provides an upgrade note for update-notifier to inform people about the SDK changes
[10:11] <Saviq> trainguards, can you please restart the failed armhf builds in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-019/+packages thanks :/
[10:11] <Mirv> Saviq: ok
[10:11] <sil2100> Saviq: oh, again?
[10:11] <sil2100> Ok, Mirv is on it
[10:11] <sil2100> ;)
[10:11] <Saviq> sil2100, yeah, xenial this time and then UITK too :/
[10:11] <Saviq> Mirv, welcome back, btw!
[10:12] <Mirv> Saviq: what's up with the builds?
[10:12] <Mirv> Saviq: thanks :)
[10:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1604 Currently building (ubuntu-ui-toolkit/vivid). Failed to build (unity8/xenial). Successfully built (ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/vivid, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/xenial, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/yakkety, ubuntu-ui-toolkit/xenial, ubuntu-ui-toolkit/yakkety, unity8/vivid, unity8/yakkety)
[10:16] <Saviq> Mirv, we have some dbus troubles in tests from time to time, UITK seems to just have flaky tests
[10:23] <Mirv> ok
[10:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1354 Currently building (gammaray/yakkety). Diff missing (qtbase-opensource-src-gles/yakkety). Failed to build (unity8/yakkety). Ready to build (qt3d-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtlocation-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtmir-gles/yakkety, qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtubuntu-gles/yakkety, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/yakkety). Success
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[11:02] <Saviq> jibel, https://trello.com/c/f7TvP61B/3449-1604-ubuntu-landing-019-unity8-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-bzoltan is ready to test, the only changes were packaging after unity8 trunk bumped changelog
[11:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1547 Destination version 1.2+16.04.20160408-0ubuntu2 is missing from changelog (ubuntu-download-manager/yakkety). Failed to build (ubuntu-download-manager/vivid, ubuntu-download-manager/xenial)
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[11:10] <bzoltan> jibel: Saviq: I still need to  work on the UITK test plan, but so far it looks good.
[11:11] <bzoltan> jibel:  sorry for the mega landing. It is never intentional... after the OTA12 was closed, lots of changes piled up in our staging.
[11:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1354 Currently building (unity8/yakkety). Diff missing (qtbase-opensource-src-gles/yakkety). Failed to build (qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles/yakkety). Ready to build (qt3d-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtlocation-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtmir-gles/yakkety, qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtubuntu-gles/yakkety, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/yakkety). Successfully built (akona
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[12:29] <kdub> sil2100, how did that usc/repowerd backout work? I'm trying to patch usc for some mir 0.24 compatibility branch, but bileto is being insistent that USC should be 0.6 (which was the landing that had some problems)
[12:29] <kdub> https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 is the silo I'm working on
[12:36] <rvr> popey: ping
[12:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1706 Diff missing (oxide-qt/xenial). Failed to build (oxide-qt/vivid). Ready to build (oxide-qt/yakkety)
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[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1354 Dependency wait (qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles/yakkety). Diff missing (qtbase-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles/yakkety). Ready to build (qt3d-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtlocation-opensource-src-gles/yakkety, qtmir-gles/yakkety, qtubuntu-gles/yakkety, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/yakkety). Successfully built (akonadi/yakkety, analitza/yakkety, appmenu
[12:45] <boiko> trainguards: any idea why this silo is showing as "Preparing packages" still? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1707
[12:47] <Mirv> boiko: ...no, no idea, hmm
[12:47] <boiko> Mirv: not urgent, just curious :)
[12:54] <dbarth> chrisccoulson: there was a linker memory error for the amd64 build of oxide :/
[12:55] <dbarth> see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274396510/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.oxide-qt_1.16.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~overlay1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:00] <kdub> trainguards, I have a question about https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/log/1654/build/37/ . USC 0.6.0 was a reverted silo revision. I want to 'revert the revert' in the changelog back to USC 0.5.1... but bileto seems to insist that a 0.6.0 version gets written in the changelog, any ideas?
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[13:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1701 QA Signoff: Required
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[13:14] <renatu> seb128, hey could you remove the old binaries left by address-book-service: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/yakkety/update_excuses.html#address-book-service
[13:16] <seb128> renatu, done
[13:17] <renatu> seb128, thanks
[13:17] <seb128> yw
[13:18] <Mirv> seb128: would you like me to remind me about the binNEW review on Monday or ask someone else?
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[13:28] <seb128> Mirv, shrug, sorry but week is being crazy, if you can find somebody else please do
[13:28] <seb128> or let me have a quick look
[13:29] <seb128> Mirv, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/274329882/qtcreator_4.0.2-1ubuntu1~8_4.0.2-1ubuntu1~9.diff.gz ... I don't see new binaries?
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[13:29] <Mirv> seb128: qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu is old binary but this is a new source for it.. right, it's not binNEW in that case?
[13:29] <Mirv> then I guess I wouldn't need you :)
[13:29] <seb128> no, it's source new
[13:29] <seb128> what source is new?
[13:30] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator exists
[13:30] <Mirv> seb128: I mean both src:qtcreator src:qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu exist but now binary qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu moves from src:qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu to src:qtcreator
[13:30] <Mirv> if that's not binNEW (a binary switching from source another), then no need
[13:30] <seb128> that diff ^ doesn't reflect that
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[13:30] <seb128> but I guess you had previous versions in the ppa
[13:30] <Mirv> yes I had
[13:31] <seb128> let me open the tar
[13:31] <seb128> also what was it about update-notifier?
[13:31] <seb128> please don't add more job to it
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[13:32] <seb128> Mirv, bin changes look fine to me
[13:33] <Mirv> there is a note for update-notifier that is installed via postinst for people to get informed about the SDK transition
[13:33] <seb128> ah ok
[13:33] <seb128> fine
[13:33] <seb128> Mirv, so yeah looks fine for landing
[13:33] <Mirv> seb128: thank you, I won't land it today though, Friday is not good day for landings :)
[13:33] <seb128> right
[13:34] <kdub> trainguards, with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess#Reverting_a_Landing, when the reverted package is re-uploaded (in my case, containing a revert), does the changelog have to increase in sequence?
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[13:46] <Mirv> kdub: sorry, reading your two messages, I've not much experience yet on the reverts or especially I haven't seen revert of a revert yet. providing a manual changelog change for the next upload might help one way or another, but it might also complain that the previous version was higher.
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1701 Needs rebuild due to new commits (libertine-scope/yakkety). Successfully built (libertine-scope/vivid, libertine-scope/xenial)
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[13:48] <kdub> Mirv, right, I don't think I can force 0.6.0 down to 0.5.1 again, so I'm thinking that I do a 0.6.1 (containing a revert of the problematic branch in 0.6.0, but containing the compatibility fixes)
[13:49] <kdub> and then when alf gets back from paternity leave, he can release problematic branch with fixes in 0.6.2
[13:49] <sil2100> kdub, Mirv: when we were reverting reverts, all we were doing were no-change rebuilds in the CI Train
[13:49] <sil2100> kdub: is it about the u-s-c landing?
[13:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1708 Successfully built
[13:50] <kdub> sil2100, right, I'm trying to release mir 0.24, and need a compatibility branch for usc... so basically, i want to release 0.5.1 containing the compatibility fixes, but don't release the 0.6.0 stuff that caused a problem
[13:50] <sil2100> uuuu
[13:50] <sil2100> Yeah, that might be a problem
[13:51] <sil2100> kdub: what changes do you need to release in u-s-c as part of the mir landing? Some actual code changes?
[13:51] <kdub> right, just updating some functions to accommodate abi breakage
[13:52] <kdub> sil2100, so I was thinking that I'll revert the problematic stuff that was in 0.6.0, then add on the compatibility stuff, and call it 0.6.1
[13:52] <sil2100> hm, not good, ok, in this case the only sane way is what you say now, bumping with the problematic bits reverted
[13:52] <sil2100> We could try to distro-patch it, but that's more problematic and chaotic
[13:53] <kdub> yeah, I think that the 0.6.1 solution is probably the way to go to=
[13:53] <kdub> and then when a solution is found for the repowerd stuff, that can be 0.6.2 with the repowerd+fixes changes
[13:53] <sil2100> Yeah, I guess let's just do it that way
[13:54] <kdub> cool, thanks for the help sil2100 and Mirv
[13:55] <sil2100> np, sorry it's that problematic
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[16:24] <robru> boiko: Jenkins job stuck, I killed it
[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Dependency wait (qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles/xenial). Failed to build (gammaray/xenial, gcin/xenial, hime/xenial, unity8/xenial). Ready to build (qtmir-gles/xenial, qtubuntu-gles/xenial, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/xenial). Successfully built (akonadi/xenial, analitza/xenial, appmenu-qt5/xenial, calibre/xenial, ciborium/xenial, fcitx-qt5/xenial, frameworkintegration/xenial, gsetti
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[16:34] <ChrisTownsend> trainguards: Hi, it seems the autogenerated debian/changelog was truncated in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1709.
[16:35] <ChrisTownsend> Are '-''s no valid for autogenerated changelog's from the MP's commit message?
[16:35] <robru> ChrisTownsend: truncated how? Only the first line of each MP commit message is used in the changelog
[16:37] <robru> ChrisTownsend: the thing is that when the message is passed to dch to build the changelog, it helpfully wraps everything, destroying lists like yours
[16:37] <ChrisTownsend> robru: Oh, didn't realize that.  I was hoping the changelog would look like what's in the MP.
[16:37] <ChrisTownsend> robru: So I know I can make my own changelog.
[16:38] <robru> If you want a structured changelog like you wrote in the commit message field,  you need to supply your own changelog
[16:38] <ChrisTownsend> robru: But I want the version to remain 1.3.  So what version should I make it in my own changelog so that dch is happy?
[16:39] <robru> ChrisTownsend: just put 1.3 in and set the series to UNRELEASED and it will insert the correct version
[16:40] <ChrisTownsend> robru: Ok, is UNRELEASED the key for that?  If It set it to 1.3, dch complains that the version is lower than the last version in the changelog.
[16:41] <ChrisTownsend> robru: I can use -b too and ci-train will be happy?
[16:42] <robru> ChrisTownsend: yes, the lower version will be clobbered out before it causes any problems
[16:43] <ChrisTownsend> robru: Ok, thanks for the help!
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[16:43] <robru> ChrisTownsend: you're welcome
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[17:43] <sil2100> bzoltan, zsombi: ping
[17:48] <sil2100> Mirv: ping
[17:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1550 Bad merges (unity8/yakkety). Needs rebuild due to new commits (unity-system-compositor/yakkety). Successfully built (ubuntu-system-settings/vivid, ubuntu-system-settings/xenial, ubuntu-system-settings/yakkety, unity-system-compositor/vivid, unity-system-compositor/xenial, unity8/vivid, unity8/xenial)
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Destination version 0.2+16.10.20160719-0ubuntu1 is missing from changelog (telepathy-ofono/yakkety). Failed to build (history-service/vivid, history-service/xenial, messaging-app/vivid, messaging-app/xenial, messaging-app/yakkety, telepathy-ofono/vivid, telepathy-ofono/xenial, telephony-service/vivid, telephony-service/xenial, telephony-service/yakkety). Successfully built (hist
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[19:17] <robru> slangasek: hiya, I wrote you an email about a problem with the status job, can you take a look please?
[19:18] <slangasek> robru: I'm on travel swap today, sorry, probably won't get back to you until Monday
[19:19] <robru> slangasek: oh right, sorry. ok we'll talk about it in the monday meeting then
[19:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Bad merges (unity/yakkety). Currently building (bamf/vivid, hud/xenial, hud/yakkety, indicator-application/vivid, indicator-bluetooth/vivid, indicator-bluetooth/yakkety, indicator-display/vivid, indicator-power/yakkety). Dependency wait (hud/vivid, unity/vivid). Failed to build (indicator-power/vivid, unity/xenial, update-notifier/vivid, update-notifier/xenial, update-
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[19:59] <boiko> robru: (late reply) thanks :)
[19:59] <robru> You're welcome
[20:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Bad merges (unity/yakkety). Currently building (indicator-session/yakkety, indicator-sound/vivid, indicator-transfer/yakkety, libindicator/vivid). Dependency wait (hud/vivid, unity/vivid). Failed to build (indicator-power/vivid, unity/xenial, update-notifier/vivid, update-notifier/xenial, update-notifier/yakkety). Needs building (hud/yakkety, indicator-application/yakk
[20:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Bad merges (unity/yakkety). Currently building (hud/yakkety, indicator-keyboard/vivid, indicator-power/xenial, indicator-sound/xenial, indicator-transfer/vivid, libindicator/xenial). Dependency wait (hud/vivid, unity/vivid). Destination version 0.1+16.04.20160504-0ubuntu1 is missing from changelog (indicator-display/yakkety). Destination version 12.10.5+16.04.20160412-
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[22:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (messaging-app/vivid, messaging-app/xenial, messaging-app/yakkety). Destination version 0.2+16.10.20160719-0ubuntu1 is missing from changelog (telepathy-ofono/yakkety). Failed to build (history-service/vivid, history-service/xenial, telepathy-ofono/vivid, telepathy-ofono/xenial, telephony-service/vivid, telephony-service/xenial, telephony-service/yakkety). Suc
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[22:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Bad merges (unity/yakkety). Currently building (unity/xenial). Dependency wait (hud/vivid, unity/vivid). Destination version 0.1+16.04.20160504-0ubuntu1 is missing from changelog (indicator-display/yakkety). Destination version 12.10.2+16.04.20160502.1-0ubuntu1 is missing from changelog (indicator-sound/yakkety). Destination version 12.10.5+16.04.20160412-0ubuntu3 is m
[22:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Destination version 0.2+16.10.20160719-0ubuntu1 is missing from changelog (telepathy-ofono/yakkety). Failed to build (history-service/vivid, history-service/xenial, messaging-app/vivid, messaging-app/xenial, messaging-app/yakkety, telepathy-ofono/vivid, telepathy-ofono/xenial, telephony-service/vivid, telephony-service/xenial, telephony-service/yakkety). Successfully built (hist
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[16:38] <jcastro> popey: ping
[16:40] <popey> jcastro: pong!
[16:40] <jcastro> hey so
[16:40] <jcastro> this G+ thing
[16:40] <jcastro> I am thinking of just asking to see if any forum moderators would be interested in helping
[16:41] <jcastro> I _really_ want to just Jorge the whole thing and burn large swaths of the posts with fire
[16:41] <jcastro> but that's probably not very collaborative
[16:41] <jcastro> so I was thinking if there's a group of existing forum moderators that want to lend their expertise ...
[16:41] <popey> i alredy do that
[16:41] <jcastro> oh ok
[16:41] <jcastro> did you just add them or what?
[16:41] <popey> anything which looks like blog spam
[16:41] <popey> no, i mean "do a jorge"
[16:42] <jcastro> oh, right right
[16:42] <popey> if it's blog spam i remove it, if its inappropriate i remove and ban
[16:42] <jcastro> yeah so the "doing a jorge" is easy for obvious spam and garbage
[16:42] <jcastro> I am talking for like
[16:43] <jcastro> some of the more useless stuff
[16:43] <jcastro> I dunno, maybe I want too much out of the thing and we should just let it be
[16:43] <jcastro> I was envisioning an awesome little water cooler where we could show off little apps, fun things
[16:43]  * mhall119 also burns posts with fire
[16:44] <mhall119> jcastro: I'm okay with useless stuff as long as it's not inappropriate
[16:44] <mhall119> makes it more "community" and less "marketing"
[16:44] <jcastro> yeah I just wanted something more highbrow than the facebook page
[16:44] <mhall119> well it's better than the FB comments, for sure
[16:45] <jcastro> More "check out my cool new thing I've been working on" , not just people resharing "linux is better than windows" crap
[16:45] <mhall119> jcastro: have we had much of that?
[16:45] <mhall119> the "check out my cool new thing" we have being posted on the Ubuntu App Developers community
[16:45] <jcastro> it feels like a bunch of regurgitation
[16:45] <popey> we've had a fair number of "Why is unity better than.."
[16:46] <mhall119> we made a "showcase" sub-topic or whatever they're called
[16:46] <popey> but it's end users, it's to be expected
[16:46] <jcastro> yeah
[16:46] <jcastro> so in hindsight
[16:46] <popey> we're crossing the chasm with this
[16:46] <popey> as with fb
[16:46] <jcastro> I am wondering if we should have created individual communities
[16:46] <jcastro> instead maybe put them all as subcategories of just "ubuntu"
[16:46] <jcastro> to help bring the signal up
[16:47] <popey> it could get unweildy
[16:47] <jcastro> popey: well if you think I'm overthinking it lmk
[16:47] <jcastro> maybe it's just me
[16:47] <mhall119> I think a separate app developer community is appropriate
[16:47] <snap-l> I think individual communities might help split the signal
[16:47] <popey> no, it needs thinking about
[16:47] <snap-l> not sure if it'll cut the noise.
[16:47] <mhall119> since many app developers only care about Ubuntu as a market, not as a community or project
[16:47] <snap-l> Perhaps if it was made private so it doesn't filter into the timelines
[16:47] <mhall119> but I haven't been promoting separate Ubuntu Phone communities
[16:47] <mhall119> since those rightly belong to the wider Ubuntu community
[16:47] <snap-l> but then private would have all sorts of negative connotations
[16:48] <czajkowski> snap-l: people over think private at times :)
[16:48] <jcastro> I don't want to solve a social problem with technology by making it private
[16:48] <snap-l> czajkowski: No doubt.
[16:48] <snap-l> Perhaps the exuberant ubuntu community would be an idea
[16:48] <snap-l> if you'd like to spew "I <3 UBUNTU", go there. ;)
[16:49] <SergioMeneses> morning!
[16:49]  * mhall119 likes to spew that
[16:49]  * popey mops up
[16:49]  * snap-l is glad he didn't choose the other word he was thinking of. ;)
[16:51]  * mhall119 got Ubuntu all over his shirt
[16:53] <jcastro> popey: hey so do you cron that btrfs scrub monthly or whatever?
[16:53] <jcastro> I just did my first one
[16:53] <popey> i dont
[16:53] <popey> mine is still running from 2 days ago
[16:54] <popey>         corrected errors: 11390321, uncorrectable errors: 0, unverified errors: 0
[16:54] <popey> \o/
[16:54] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1517215/
[16:54] <jcastro> 5.7 hours for me for ~6tb
[16:54] <jcastro> oh did you renice it?
[16:55] <popey> no
[16:55] <jcastro> oh, yours was correcting things
[16:55] <popey> yeah
[16:55] <popey> massively
[16:55] <popey> i think one disk has been loose for days
[16:55] <jcastro> so what happened did you remove a drive live or trip over something?
[16:55] <popey> the drive was failing, indicating hw failure or not seated
[16:55] <popey> so pulled it out
[16:56] <popey> then pulled 3 more out to make sure ;)
[16:56] <jcastro> !
[16:56] <popey> unmounted btrfs volume first of course ☺
[16:56] <snap-l> popey: chicken. ;)
[16:56] <jcastro> I am getting close to really needing raid5
[16:56] <popey> pulled all four out so i could label them and put them back in different places, so test if it's the disk or the slot
[16:56] <jcastro> I overbought the size of the disks to stay on raid1 as much as I could
[16:56] <popey> shoved them back in, mounted it, no problem
[16:56] <snap-l> jcastro: You're getting close to needing a data center
[16:57] <popey> no downtime
[16:57] <jcastro> nah, hp microserver ftw
[16:57] <popey> +1
[16:57] <snap-l> I need to look into one of those whenever I get some mad money again
[16:58] <jcastro> jono just txted me that they almost had mc hammer at the booth
[16:58] <jcastro> think about jono and vegas as you work all this week.
[16:58] <jcastro> let that motivate you
[16:59] <popey> haha
[17:00] <popey> 16:55:06 < popey> darkling: do you recommend doing a scrub periodically via cron?
[17:00] <popey> 16:55:32 < darkling> Yes, I think it's a reasonable piece of maintenance to do.
[17:00] <popey> there you go
[17:01] <popey> looking forward to hearing all the juicy details about CES next week
[17:01] <mhall119> popey: will you be in SF?
[17:02] <popey> ya
[17:02] <popey> leave on saturday
[17:05] <jcastro> popey: so other than some folks on the kernel team that tried it a few years ago, have you heard of anyone having problems with it?
[17:05] <jcastro> I want to do a talk at the lug about it
[17:06] <jcastro> but I'm not really seeing anyone being like "omg I lost data." it's more like "I don't want to try it because I don't want to lose data."
[17:08] <popey> people turn up to #btrfs and tell tales of lost data
[17:08] <popey> the problem is that the meme "btrfs loses data" has stuck
[17:09] <popey> every single time I mentioned btrfs at UDS someone said something about it losing data, every. single. time.
[17:18] <snap-l> jcastro: !!
[17:18] <snap-l> jcastro: Yes, please give a talk on btrfs
[17:24] <jcastro> I was thinking "btrfs for users"
[17:24] <jcastro> I can't answer questions about like, btree algorythms and stuff
[17:24] <jcastro> but I know how to use and consume it like a boss
[17:25] <popey> thats a good idea actually, I might do a talk at my LUG about it
[17:25] <jcastro> Oh don't worry, we'll have a G+ before I do it and compare notes
[17:25] <popey> "I use btrfs, and I still have my data"
[17:25] <popey> excellent
[17:26] <jcastro> I need to use snapshots more in my life
[17:27] <jcastro> popey: we should do them like the same month
[17:28] <jcastro> popey: that way if we have advanced questions we can be more efficient if we need to ping upstream
[17:28] <jcastro> popey: do a UUPC with chris mason pls
[18:49] <jcastro> mhall119: yo yo
[18:49] <jcastro> I need your web expertise for a moment if you have time
[18:54] <mhall119> jcastro: whats up?
[18:55] <jcastro> nm, I'll go email, I need multiple brains
[18:55] <mhall119> ok
[19:04] <JoseeAntonioR> marcoceppi: will you be around this afternoon to have a chatter on the Q&A thingies?
[19:04] <marcoceppi> JoseeAntonioR: What time, I've got meetings stacked for most the rest of the day
[19:05] <JoseeAntonioR> marcoceppi: s/afternoon/evening
[19:05] <marcoceppi> approx time?
[19:05] <JoseeAntonioR> 18 your time? maybe later
[19:05] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll be around all day
[19:06] <marcoceppi> I've got dinner plans around then so it'd have to be after
[19:07] <JoseeAntonioR> just highlight me when you're free :)
[19:07] <marcoceppi> Will do!
[19:07] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks!
[19:35] <jcastro> snap-l: lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWoQpzdB5gs&feature=player_embedded
[19:40] <snap-l> jcastro: Will have to watch it later. Am on work bandwidth
[19:45] <popey> ☺
[19:49] <AlanBell> hi cjohnston
[20:09] <cjohnston> hey AlanBell
[20:10] <cjohnston> is it possible to just switch out etherpad lite without any changes to summit? or does etherpad lite have other issues
[20:32] <AlanBell> it can just be switched out
[20:32] <AlanBell> the root url gets /p/ on the end of it, but that is all
[20:39] <cjohnston> ok
[20:49] <JoseeAntonioR> cjohnston: wouldn't that need a little change in the templates?
[20:49] <cjohnston> what type of changes?
[20:49] <cjohnston> I have never looked at lite so I dont know
[20:49] <JoseeAntonioR> I mean, if the URL has /p/ on the end
[20:50] <cjohnston> hrm.. its at the end
[20:50] <AlanBell> nope, there is a configuration thing on the summit object I think, the url for the pad server
[20:50] <cjohnston> AlanBell: do you have experience with the etherpadlite charm
[20:50] <AlanBell> not used the charm, I don't really get the juju thing
[20:51] <JoseeAntonioR> I can help if needed, I deployed it without problems last time
[20:51] <JoseeAntonioR> but didn't have the sso integration
[23:11]  * AlanBell spots a celebrity merge request in the making https://code.launchpad.net/~kees/libunity/remote-search-none/+merge/134180
[23:15]  * pleia2 offers AlanBell a seatbelt
[23:15] <AlanBell> I am staying well out of the way :)
[23:15] <pleia2> you and me both :)


[01:41] <BenC> lamont-away: ping
[01:44] <lamont-away> BenC: I have about 30 seconds - wassup?
[01:44] <BenC> lamont-away: good news, ia64 failed immediately when oldconfig ran :)
[01:44] <lamont-away> heh
[01:44] <BenC> just wanted to pass that on
[01:44] <lamont-away> right. I'll add that right ahead of hppa then.
[01:45] <lamont-away> anyway, need to run.  back in a few hours.
[01:45] <lamont-away> and yes, I'll read scrollback
[01:45] <BenC> I have an ia64 with ubuntu, but I need to update it and get it running again
[01:45] <BenC> later
[04:41] <Yagisan> BenC ping
[04:41] <BenC> Yagisan: pong
[04:42] <Yagisan> BenC: This bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9972 is confirmed on breezy
[04:42] <Yagisan> BenC: rtl-8139 doesn't handle buggy acpi gracefully
[04:43] <BenC> Yagisan: ok, please email me back about that
[04:43] <BenC> I'm about to go to bed
[04:44] <Yagisan> BenC: no worries, I just got the bugzilla email
[06:43] <fabbione> BenC: the sparc build loops the same way as the others btw
[08:09] <fabbione> BenC: never mind.. that was with 2.2
[08:09] <fabbione> gonna test build 3.3 soon
[09:02] <fabbione> BenC: -> #ubuntu-meeting
[02:01] <jbailey> BenC: Got a kernel you want tested on ppc64 before I settle in?
[02:02] <BenC> jbailey: I will in about 10 minutes
[02:02] <jbailey> BenC:
[02:02] <jbailey> 'ksy
[02:02] <jbailey> 'kay
[02:02] <jbailey> I'll avoid settling in until then. =)
[02:04] <fabbione> hey BenC
[02:04] <BenC> hey
[02:05] <BenC> I missed the dev meeting :/
[02:05] <fabbione> yes
[02:05] <BenC> had my days all mixed up
[02:05] <fabbione> follow up with JaneW
[02:06] <BenC> fabbione: are you doing a security compile on davis?
[02:06] <fabbione> yes
[02:06] <fabbione> i can slow down if you need
[02:06] <BenC> if you can, I'd like to get a kernel for jbailey
[02:07] <BenC> thanks
[02:07] <fabbione> sure
[02:07] <BenC> Load == 322 :)
[02:07] <fabbione> going down now
[02:08] <BenC> my build wouldn't even start after 30 seconds
[02:08] <BenC> thanks, mine starts now
[02:09] <fabbione> BenC: i am down to -j50
[02:09] <CataEnry> hi all
[02:09] <fabbione> you can take the other -j250
[02:10] <jbailey> Dev meeting?
[02:10] <jbailey> Oh hey, it's Thursday.
[02:10] <fabbione> jbailey: Dapper Devel Meeting
[02:10] <BenC> jbailey: first Dapper Development Status was 5 hours ago :)
[02:10] <BenC> cool, I wasn't the only one
[02:10] <BenC> yeah, the day threw me off
[02:10] <jbailey> We can say a void fell over the timezone.
[02:11] <BenC> I knew it was today, but the time was out of whack
[02:11] <jbailey> Or at least, it looked all dark outside.  I got scared, hid under the covers.
[02:11] <jbailey> With my eyes closed.
[02:11] <BenC> lol
[02:11] <BenC> I'll claim DST messed me up
[02:11] <jbailey> JaneW: Thats my excuse and I'm sticking too it!
[02:13] <chmj> bah, I missed it also
[02:14] <chmj> JaneW: I was offline, axxess has authenticaiton problems with the Saix vs IS thing going on
[02:15] <BenC> we need a cronjob that sends out reminder emails
[02:15] <chmj> I agree
[02:25] <BenC> jbailey: this is going to take longer than 10 minutes, btw
[02:25] <jbailey> BenC: Is the time still reasonable to measure in minutes?
[02:26] <BenC> probably less than an hour is about as close as I can come
[02:26] <BenC> fabbione and his damned security build is hogging cpu :)
[02:27] <fabbione> BenC: dude.. export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=250
[02:27] <fabbione> and you are all set to hog 5 times more cpu than me
[02:27] <BenC> ok, I'll let it rip then
[02:28] <BenC> fabbione: I am working on sparc64 config's right now
[02:28] <fabbione> BenC: coolness
[02:28] <BenC> so -4.4 should build on sparc64
[02:29] <fabbione> neat
[02:29] <BenC> going to try to get all the config's atleast "buildable"
[02:30] <fabbione> lamont was mumbling something about hppa
[02:40] <BenC> great, still linker errors with ppc64
[02:40] <BenC> there's no end to the madness
[02:42] <fabbione> do you prefer to -security? ;)
[02:43] <BenC> think I'll pass :)
[02:44] <fabbione> BenC: i was thinking that it might be a good idea to start making debian/changelog a changelog again.. or somehow slam git log diff between releases somewhere
[02:44] <jbailey> BenC: What linker errors?  Is it related the the binutils breakage?
[02:45] <fabbione> given .15 initial fun is finished.. we should turn it into something more serious
[02:45] <fabbione> and get proper release names from JaneW :P
[02:45] <BenC> jbailey: I've no idea really
[02:45] <BenC> fabbione: yeah, I've been more detailed in my recent changelog entries after -1.1
[02:46] <BenC> but something automated to take line 1 from git-log would be nice
[02:46] <BenC> fabbione: I was thinking of using Linus' shortlog (in git) to create something to include with normal changelog
[02:46] <fabbione> exactly
[02:47] <fabbione> we need to keep in mind two things:
[02:47] <fabbione> * we need make git reverse $id something "simple" for non-kernel team people
[02:47] <fabbione> * we might die now and nobody would know how to do it
[02:47] <fabbione> it was easy with dpatch
[02:48] <BenC> it's easy with git too
[02:48] <fabbione> but we need to find the same compromise with git
[02:48] <fabbione> yeah
[02:48] <BenC> but it wont be a "here are the patches, here's the description of each one" kind of thing
[02:48] <BenC> just a running changelog
[02:48] <fabbione> i was more thinking like:
[02:49] <fabbione> Changes by BenC:
[02:49] <fabbione>  * add foo:
[02:49] <BenC> yeah, the git-log shortlog will do that
[02:49] <fabbione>     - changeset IDS:
[02:49] <fabbione> without extra info on why there are for ex 10 changests
[02:49] <BenC> changeset IDS will be a 64-bit SHA hash :)
[02:49] <fabbione> that's fine
[02:49] <fabbione> but i can just say
[02:50] <fabbione> for i in $id[1]  $[2] ; do git revert $i; done
[02:50] <fabbione> that would make it fairly trivial to revert stuff
[02:57] <CataEnry> bye all
[03:23] <fabbione> BenC: did you finish your build on davis?
[03:24] <BenC> yeah, ppc64 isn't going to happen
[03:26] <fabbione> uh?
[03:26] <fabbione> why not?
[03:27] <BenC> binutils failures
[03:27] <BenC> really odd linker failures for ppc64
[03:28] <fabbione> ah
[03:28] <fabbione> ok
[03:29] <BenC> ~bcollins/build.log if you want to take a look
[03:30] <fabbione> on davis?
[03:31] <fabbione> uh yeah
[03:31] <fabbione> here it is
[03:32] <fabbione> *cough*binutils die!*cough*
[03:32] <BenC> jbailey says the linker messages are just warnings
[03:33] <BenC> if so, I can fix the missing symbols and get a build
[03:33] <fabbione> i assume it's still worth to give it a shot
[03:33] <jbailey> It'll keep me from pouting at him. ;)
[03:39] <BenC> I'll keep working on it
[03:39] <fabbione> ok
[03:39] <fabbione> warty build is done
[03:39] <fabbione> i am going to set a low CONC_LEVEL for hoary
[03:39] <fabbione> so you have more machine power
[03:45] <BenC> found the problem with the missing symbols
[03:46] <BenC> some of the video drivers use nvram, but the video is built-in, and nvram is modular
[03:46] <BenC> the easy fix is to make nvram built-in, but I want to do the right thing and make kconfig handle this
[03:48] <mjg59> Some of the video drivers use nvram? Wow.
[03:48] <BenC> not sure if there's a way to say "if CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y, and CONFIG_NVRAM, make CONFIG_NVRAM=y"
[03:48] <BenC> yeah, like 4 or 5 of them
[03:48] <BenC> they don't require it, but if nvram is configured, they use it
[03:48] <mjg59> Oh, right
[03:48] <mjg59> How weird
[03:49] <BenC> need a weak dep between the video drivers and nvram, but this may be a lost cause
[03:49] <mjg59> Oh, only on PPC?
[03:49] <mjg59> That makes more sense
[03:50] <BenC> nvram is generic, but I think the video stuff is more geared toward ppc, yes
[03:52] <BenC> oh, interesting, CONFIG_NVRAM isn't even on ppc64
[03:52] <BenC> so I just need some ifdef's
[03:58] <zul> heylo
[03:59] <jbailey> Zoool
[04:02] <zul_^> that was weird
[04:02] <zul_^> i got hit in the face with a soccer ball last night
[04:02] <zul_^> it was kind of bradyesque
[04:03] <jbailey> And this is cuasing you to spawn yourself multiple times?
[04:03] <BenC> did your nose swell to the size of the ball?
[04:03] <jbailey> And is "bradyesque" your way of saying they'll be nine of you in a moment?
[04:03] <BenC> and did you have to miss the big dance? :)
[04:04] <zul_^> bastards..
[04:05] <fabbione> hey zul
[04:05] <fabbione> later guys
[04:05] <BenC> later
[04:05] <zul_^> later
[04:09] <BenC> sweet, all the linker warnings aside, I now have a ppc64 vmlinux
[04:10] <zul_^> nifty
[04:10] <BenC> jbailey: I should have a kernel for you soon now
[04:11] <jbailey> BenC: It's passed that point this time?
[04:11] <BenC> yeah, it's on to modules now
[04:11] <BenC> missing symbols there wont cause it to fail to make a .deb, so I think we're clear for a test
[04:11] <jbailey> woohoo =)
[04:26] <zul_^> BenC: psst..my patches ;)
[04:31] <mjg59> Can we have CONFIG_EDD on pls k thx?
[04:45] <BenC> zul_^: yeah, I have them, just need to merge them
[04:45] <BenC> trying to get as many arch's building as possible so people can start testing
[04:50] <BenC> mjg59: i386 and amd64?
[04:50] <mjg59> BenC: Yeah
[04:50] <BenC> ok, done
[04:50] <BenC> does it need to be =y or is =m ok?
[04:54] <jbailey> BenC: I'm at a good time to test ppc64.  Is it ready?  If not, i'll check in after lunch.
[04:54] <BenC> it's doing the dpkg-deb right now
[04:55] <jbailey> Nice timing. =)
[04:55] <BenC> less than 5 minutes
[04:55] <BenC> yes, perfect :)
[05:05] <mjg59> BenC: =m should be fine, I think (though it's a fairly tiny amount of code)
[05:15] <lamont-away> Automatically append version information to the version string (LOCALVERSION_AUTO) [Y/n/?]  (NEW) aborted!
[05:15] <lamont-away> Console input is closed. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configuration.
[05:15] <BenC> lamont-away: -4.4 will have a sane, probably buildable config
[05:16] <lamont-away> cool.
[05:18] <BenC> jbailey: people/~bcollins/2.6.15/
[05:19] <BenC> powerpc64-smp debs are there
[05:21] <jbailey> BenC: Thanks!
[05:37] <mdz> BenC: what are the blockers remaining for updating the metapackages to 2.6.15?
[05:37] <BenC> lrm, and has to be post flight 1
[05:38] <BenC> infinity is supposed to be working on lrm
[05:38] <BenC> post-fligh1 was Kamion's request
[05:38] <mdz> I would prefer that we transition that to be your responsibility, so that you don't block on someone else for ABI changes and new upstreams
[05:38] <mdz> post-flight1 is fine, but that's today or tomorrow
[05:38] <mdz> (with luck)
[05:39] <BenC> I was under the impression that I needed to be hands-off for lrm
[05:39] <mdz> from whom?
[05:56] <dilinger> BenC: have you guys enabled CONFIG_EDD in 2.6.15
[05:56] <dilinger> ?
[05:56] <dilinger> it's disabled in breezy
[05:56] <BenC> I just did
[05:56] <dilinger> ah, cool
[05:56] <BenC> will be in -4.4
[05:56] <dilinger> static or module?
[05:56] <BenC> module, would static be better?
[05:57] <dilinger> doesn't really matter, i was just curious
[05:57] <BenC> it's modular
[05:57] <dilinger> (working on parted geometry stuff)
[06:38] <jb-770> Ben, no  worky ;)
[06:40] <jb-770> How much of the kernel panic do you want?
[06:41] <jb-770> It panics when running hwclock.
[06:54] <infinity> BenC : I don't mind you touching LRM for ABI changes, I was just personally holding off on updating it since I want to shove in shiny new drivers that need a new X (which needs a new glibc, which needs a new binutils)
[06:55] <infinity> BenC : No guarantees that the current source would even build against 2.6.15 right now.  If in doubt at all, you may be better off just waiting a day for the other stuff to fall into place.
[06:56] <jbailey> infinity: Bah, you don't need sleep.
[07:42] <mjg59> It sounds like the new ATI drivers actually do power management properly
[07:42] <mjg59> Which is very nice of them
[07:43] <jbailey> mjg59: The free ones, or the binary ones?
[07:44] <mjg59> The binary ones
[07:47] <BenC> do the binary ATI drivers work on PPC?
[07:47] <BenC> jbailey: any luck with ppc64?
[07:48] <jbailey> BenC: crash and burn when setting hwclock
[07:48] <jbailey> BenC: I don't think there are ppc binary drivers.
[07:48] <jbailey> I wish there were.
[07:48] <jbailey> Screen savers would suck so much less.
[07:48] <BenC> hwclock huh...let me check the config's
[07:49] <BenC> yeah, my screen saver shows some weird white lines brushing to the left of the images
[11:08] <BenC> jbailey: ping
[11:08] <jbailey> BenC: pong
[11:08] <BenC> jbailey: were you able to get the panic from the ppc64 test?
[11:09] <jbailey> BenC: Eh, I had asked you which part you needed, I hadn't seen an answer.
[11:09] <jbailey> I can reboot and get it easily enough.
[11:09] <BenC> I totally missed where you came on as jb-770
[11:09] <jbailey> Ah, sorry. =)
[11:09] <jbailey> Lemme reboot to catch that.
[11:10] <BenC> nah, was my fault, if you get a chance to get it, just email it, to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(regular email is down)
[11:13] <jb-770> Lets give this a try.
[11:14] <jb-770> No serial console on the ppc64 box any parts you want in particular?
[11:14] <jb-770> Or should  I copy all of it?
[11:17] <jb-770> I should probably figure out the oops catcher at some point.


[03:05] <jengc0il> yo ApOgEE
[04:20] <jengc0il> gtg
[04:20] <jengc0il> kelas dulu
[09:58] <isolat3dsh33p> yo peeps
[09:58] <isolat3dsh33p> anyone can tell me how to block ports?
[10:02] <isolat3dsh33p> I'm using streamyx.
[10:25] <SuMarDi> isolat3dsh33p: router filters are very useful for blocking ports
[10:36] <isolat3dsh33p> SuMarDi, how to use that with Riger router?
[12:29] <msmsm> mcm mana nak dapatkan cdnya?
[17:47] <sham3804> hai semua chater


[04:33] <jose> pleia2: is it fine if I create some test drafts on the fridge? not posting them at all, but will try to see if I can work out openid auth in the scripts
[05:09] <pleia2> jose: go for it :)
[05:09] <pleia2> and thanks!
[05:16] <jose> pleia2: no worries. btw, do you have a minute? I'm stuck at some perl-y things
[05:17] <pleia2> jose: I'm running in degraded mode (on my phone, no wifi at home at the moment, redoing networking)
[05:18] <jose> pleia2: no prob then, good luck with all of that
[05:18] <pleia2> I can help tomorrow once I'm back if you are still stuck :)
[05:22] <jose> sure, I'll try to get around this today :)
[05:22] <jose> thanks!
[06:40] <xephexx1> Nvidia version 304.88 is  a little bit buggy when opening multiple windows and using my clipboard does anybody have any ideas?
[13:49] <xephexx1> Another glorious day here in Ubuntu-Land hope everybody has a great one...<<<XΞpћΞxҲ™>>>
[14:13] <jose> working on the post for the change from approved to verified locoteams
[14:45] <jose> posted
[17:22] <PaulW2U> pleia2: UWN summaries done despite another very very low turnout this week :(
[17:26] <pleia2> PaulW2U: thanks again for all your work, I think this week I'll send a note to all our current summary writers, we have like 40 on the list, some of whom have never participated
[17:26] <pleia2> hopefully I can find some who just need some guidance
[17:26] <PaulW2U> 40 ????
[17:27] <pleia2> heh, yeah
[17:27] <pleia2> I should say, many of whom have never participated :)
[17:27] <pleia2> I do a call for help, add them to the list, silence
[17:27] <pleia2> emailing every week!
[17:27] <PaulW2U> I sometimes see two or three on a Sunday but usually none on Saturday
[17:27]  * pleia2 nods
[17:28] <pleia2> saturday is my day off, so I haven't kept a close watch on it lately
[17:29] <pleia2> my husband is rewriging the home network, so I'm on [Dthe roof, lousy wifi here :)
[17:29] <pleia2> errewiring too
[17:30] <PaulW2U> on the roof?
[17:30]  * pleia2 is mostly staying out of his way so her sysadmin self doesn't grump about the network configuration
[17:30] <pleia2> it's a roof deck, I live in a high rise
[17:31] <jose> hey pleia2, have a min? couldn't get around the perl-y thing
[17:32] <pleia2> jose: ask away :)
[17:32] <jose> let me pastebin
[17:36] <jose> pleia2: so, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6025788/ is for the openid auth. I have the $cgi variable, but it's not defined anywhere as my $cgi blah blah blah, and it gives me a global symbol error or something like that
[17:37] <jose> any idea on how to get that fixed?
[17:37] <pleia2> jose: why not define it?
[17:39] <jose> because I don't know how
[17:39] <pleia2> well, what is it? :)
[17:39] <pleia2> looks like you pulled this script from somewhere else?
[17:40] <pleia2> it definitely needs to be set at some point, either earlier in the script or by a script that includes this one
[17:43] <jose> yeah, I did try to pull it and modify it
[17:44] <jose> it's basically getting the check url so the users can login to the sso service and it gives a reply to the script
[17:44] <jose> though I'm not quite sure if it'll work from a cli
[17:44] <pleia2> so look at the original script and see where it defined it? or maybe it's an environment variable or something
[17:45] <pleia2> ah yeah, that could be
[17:45] <pleia2> in a web browser it's easier because it just hooks into lp, from cli you need to launch a browser
[17:45] <jose> yeah
[17:45] <jose> I'll see what I can do after lunch, thanks!
[17:45] <pleia2> there are tools in ubuntu-land that do (ubuntu-bug) but they're mostly in python afaik
[17:47] <jose> and what about porting the code to python?
[17:47] <jose> I can try
[17:47] <pleia2> that would be fine, I think nhandler went with perl because of the better regex handling (and these scripts do love regexes!)
[17:48] <jose> I've seen that
[17:49] <jose> well, time for lunch, talk to you in a while!
[17:49] <pleia2> enjoy :)
[17:50] <PaulW2U> pleia2: if anyone needs some guidance then akgraner's session at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpaYsbRnteQ might be useful. It got me started :)
[17:50] <pleia2> PaulW2U: ah, good call! thanks, I'll have a browse and include it in my email
[22:59] <scott_ev> hey, I think I need to get involved with the UWN again.  Surely the process has changed some since I was involved so I'll need to be schooled a little.
[23:00] <scott_ev> luckily some names here are familiar - akgraner, nhandler, and pleia2 - hello again
[23:08] <PaulW2U> scott_ev: hi there, we definitely need help with summary writing
[23:16] <scott_ev> PaulW2U: ok, what's the process?
[23:16] <scott_ev> is it something I can do during the week or is everything done on one day?  I can work just about any time
[23:17] <PaulW2U> take a look at http://bit.ly/vDkJyf. It's finished for this week but links are added during the week and summaries written at the weekend
[23:18] <scott_ev> also, a few members of my LoCo are looking for things to do to help as they are thinking about applying for ubuntu membership.  I'll see if I can get some more help if needed.  OK, I can start writing summaries on Sat.
[23:20] <scott_ev> w00t!! I made it into this week's edition!! haha; I'm famous
[23:20] <PaulW2U> great. I've been very much on my own for the past few weeks with only pleia2 adding links and writing summaries
[23:21] <PaulW2U> Also have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/StyleGuidelines before you start writing
[23:21] <scott_ev> understood.  we have our meeting tonight and I'll put the word out
[23:22] <PaulW2U> You also might want to get on pleia2's mailing list so that you know when you can start writing summaries
[23:22] <pleia2> welcome scott_ev :)
[23:22] <scott_ev> I may be able to convince a few volunteers that this is their best opportunity to start showing work outside of the LoCo
[23:22] <scott_ev> pleia2: good to see you again
[23:22] <pleia2> I send an email every Friday night to everyone on my list of summary writers
[23:22] <scott_ev> it's been much too long
[23:22] <pleia2> summaries are written Saturday - Sunday
[23:22] <pleia2> so I can add you to that list of writers if you'd like :)
[23:23] <scott_ev> k, great. add j dot scott dot gwin at ubuntu to thaqt list
[23:23] <pleia2> k
[23:24] <scott_ev> IIRC your nick is about princess leia and not the pleiadese (sp) system
[23:24] <pleia2> right :)
[23:24] <scott_ev> nice, I still have some medium-term memory left
[23:24] <scott_ev> w00t
[23:24] <pleia2> I do have a pleiades necklace though, given the similarity it's grown on me ;)
[23:25] <scott_ev> nice, it's a very important system according to many religion's cosmology
[23:25] <pleia2> so I hear!
[23:25] <scott_ev> after many many years in meditation I can back up that sentiment
[23:26] <scott_ev> if you look at my wiki you can see how lazy I've been for nearly 2 years.  it was nice to drop back and be a generic end user but that got boring
[23:27] <pleia2> hehe
[23:27] <pleia2> well, we're glad to have you back
[23:28] <scott_ev> I nearly downloaded the whole net, watched and read everything - filled up a nas then quit being a leech
[23:29] <scott_ev> thanks, this will be fun.  I'm amazed we ever got published back when it was me, johnc4510, and tyche
[23:29] <pleia2> it's amazing you guys kept it going for so long with such a small team
[23:29] <scott_ev> and a few others - we did everything on sunday morning somehgow
[23:29]  * pleia2 nods
[23:29] <scott_ev> old guys rule!!!
[23:30] <scott_ev> haha
[23:30] <pleia2> lol
[23:30] <scott_ev> actually, it's just sad that we had nothing better to do....
[23:30] <scott_ev> but john was a great leader for quite a while
[23:30] <pleia2> yeah
[23:30] <pleia2> and nah, people love UWN, it's a worthy thing to spend time on :)
[23:31] <scott_ev> agreed
[23:31] <scott_ev> taking over the loco after john was more work than I had imagined
[23:32] <pleia2> I bet
[23:32] <scott_ev> I think I just burned out from leading the loco, working with uwn, helping the local lug, etc.  I was working more than I did before I retirede
[23:32] <pleia2> hah
[23:33] <scott_ev> I'm looking fwd to being a participant again
[23:36] <jose> and we look forward on having you on the team!
[23:36]  * jose waves
[23:37]  * scott_ev waves back - thanks
[23:38] <scott_ev> and I did that w/o a rotten trout!
[23:39] <pleia2> haha