[08:15] <Amaranth> ah
[08:16] <Amaranth> jon is working on that :)
[08:16] <calc> and also to the newer windows media clients that are being brought out now
[08:16] <Amaranth> you'd know him as dvd-jon, i think
[08:16] <calc> wmp10 has support added to stream to those aiui
[08:16] <plasmo> ahh blender. im still learning to use that :/
[08:16] <calc> Amaranth: ah yea
 be sure to watch the video tutorials at blender.org :)
[08:17] <s0cks> Had to change servers.
[08:17] <Amaranth> him, Daeken, crazney, tlg, and me have all been working on various iTunes related projects
[08:17] <jocco> the new tutorials make learning blender verry easy
[08:17] <plasmo> yeah ill check it out ;)
[08:17] <calc> Amaranth: anyone working on a gnome version of something like nero recode/dvd shrink?
[08:18] <K-Rich> jocco, how long you been using it?
[08:18] <Amaranth> Daeken did the cli client I'm working from, tlg wrote iTMS4j (full iTunes Music Store rendering, adds DRM), jon got us all going with iTunes 4.5 and various other drm things, crazney is working on daap stuff
[08:18] <Amaranth> wow, i'm talking to much
[08:18] <jocco> the blender in the Ubuntu repositories is a very old version of blender, the newest version has a full undo system :)
[08:19] <jocco> I have been useing Blender for about 3 months now
[08:19] <plasmo> mmm 2 months here
[08:19] <jocco> in linux it is much faster :)
[08:19] <K-Rich> jocco, about 6 years here :)
[08:19] <plasmo> using 2.34
[08:19] <K-Rich> jocco, most things are much faster :)
[08:19] <plasmo> :0
[08:19] <netando> how long have you guys been using ubuntu?
[08:19] <K-Rich> i'm using 2.35 CVS
[08:20] <plasmo> 3 months or so
[08:20] <K-Rich> (was suppost to release 2.36 today but linux issues came up)
[08:20] <jocco> really!!!
[08:20] <jocco> ?
[08:20] <jocco> WOOT!
[08:20] <jocco> it has sub surface scattering (SSS) I think...
[08:20] <K-Rich> jocco, most a bug fix release
[08:21] <netando> cool, I'm checking out the live cd right now
[08:21] <calc> ubuntu warty wasn't released until oct but was available as beta before then
[08:21] <jocco> I will have to drop by blenderchat and see if if they got any goodies :)
[08:21] <plasmo> yep preview
[08:21] <K-Rich> jocco, then we start wrking on 2.37 which is gonna be mostly towards the char anim system... looks like we MAY get mocap suport :P  (not defiate though)
[08:22] <netando> I'm trying to get my hands on a copy of the blender gaming pack at chapters right now
[08:22] <jocco> Sweet! I am just learning the animation system, very easy :)
[08:23] <K-Rich> netando, just order from the eshop on blender3d.org
[08:23] <jocco> I come from Truespace 6.6
[08:23] <netando> I like blender
[08:23] <netando> that would probably be alot faster
[08:23] <K-Rich> jocco, i stoped using Maya for Blender... does all i need, and faster/lighter workflow
[08:23] <netando> I can't afford Maya
[08:24] <plasmo> blender was used in the making of spiderman movie :)
[08:24] <krrh> Alright, new approach in this endeavor. The computer I'm trying to use LiveCD with in a Compaq Presario SR1103WM-B. Might anyone know of compatibility issues with this model?
[08:24] <jocco> I like the Idea that after I learn blender, I can teach it to someone else for Free :)
[08:25] <jocco> I am trying to go 100% free software for videogame development and animation for cartoons :)
[08:25] <jocco> Blender has a great toon shader
[08:26] <netando> I'm using the live cd in a averatec laptop, so you should be fine in a Presario
[08:26] <jocco> 64bit?
[08:26] <netando> averatec laptops don't play nice with Linux
[08:26] <jocco> Ah! :)
[08:27] <netando> but my monster was built to run Linux
[08:27] <jocco> :D
[08:27] <netando> and will soon be 64 bit
[08:27] <kebac> what is averatec
[08:27] <jocco> mine too, then I found out about ATI and their hate for linux users
[08:27] <etorix> jocco:  tried LiVES?
[08:28] <netando> averatec is a clone laptop
[08:28] <kebac> ok
[08:28] <jocco> liVES? is that a knoppix type of CD?
[08:28] <jocco> live CD
[08:28] <etorix> nope linux video editing sxxxx
[08:28] <jocco> I have not
[08:28] <jocco> SWEET!
[08:28] <jocco> I must try it :)
[08:28] <etorix> it builds great
[08:28] <jocco> is it in Apt?
[08:29] <etorix> ie u compile it
[08:29] <etorix> nah
[08:29] <jocco> ah :(
[08:29] <etorix> but
[08:29] <etorix> it builds great
[08:29] <etorix> least buggy ting i ever built on linux
[08:29] <etorix> honest
[08:29] <jocco> sweet :)
[08:29] <etorix> yup
[08:29] <netando> right now I'm thinking about changing from Mandrake 10 to ubuntu
[08:30] <netando> I'm a lame noobie too!
[08:30] <calc> ubuntu is much better since its based off debian :)
[08:31] <netando> cool
[08:31] <jocco> Debian is very nice :)
[08:31] <netando> I used debian a while back
[08:31] <Tomcat_> Debian is t3h great. .o
[08:31] <Tomcat_> :o
[08:31] <netando> I like debian
[08:31] <jocco> I like Kanotix and ubuntu
[08:31] <etorix> jocco: http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/
[08:32] <netando> never heard of kanotix
[08:32] <Tomcat_> Debian is the best distro ever... just not the user-friendliest... that's Ubuntu :)
[08:32] <jocco> Thanks, I just googled it :)
[08:32] <netando> I like user friendly too
[08:32] <etorix> im on kanotix .. and debian-amd54 and ubuntu x64
[08:32] <plasmo> dont we all v_v
[08:32] <etorix> cool
[08:32] <netando> I know some folks don't
[08:32] <plasmo> :o!
[08:33] <K-Rich> Tomcat_, awwww... debian can be friendly now, c'mon :P
[08:33] <netando> but I'm also trying to get my family to use Linux too
[08:33] <K-Rich> netando, give them
[08:33] <plasmo> so we all use gnome here. or any kde or xfce users
[08:33] <etorix> yup
[08:33] <Tomcat_> K-Rich: Of course... you just have to install and set everything yourself :)
[08:33] <calc> debian is more user friendly than many dists, wrt upgrade/maintainability
[08:33] <etorix>  im on xfce4 64-bit
[08:33] <K-Rich> Ubuntu CDs for Xmas :)
[08:33] <plasmo> xfce4 here as well >:)
[08:33] <zenwhen> gnome here
[08:33] <arctick> does the ubuntu setup give you the option of not installing x? i dont remeber
[08:33] <etorix> on 64-bit ubuntu?
[08:34] <netando> that sounds like a great idea
[08:34] <zenwhen> :)
[08:34] <netando> ho ho ho!
[08:34] <Tomcat_> Debian is great and all, but I really have problems with the fact that you need hours to get to a state where Ubuntu already is.
[08:34] <K-Rich> Tomcat_, i know, i use side mostly with a hint of experimental
[08:34] <Tomcat_> arctick: Afaik it installs it automatically.
[08:34] <plasmo> i didnt like the xfce file manager tho. so i used nautilus instead lol
[08:34] <arctick> shitty
[08:34] <Tomcat_> I'm not sure if I'd use Ubuntu for a server anyway... :)
[08:35] <K-Rich> plasmo, use the old gmc :D
[08:35] <netando> I need more blank cd's :(
[08:35] <Tomcat_> It's possible, but as user-friendliness is not important for a server I'd rather use Debian. :o
[08:35] <arctick> i need an os to use as a server on a celeron 333, all i need is a ftp server and apache
[08:35] <zenwhen> i do
[08:35] <plasmo> gmc o_o
[08:35] <Tomcat_> arctick: I'd go with Debian testing (Sarge)
[08:35] <xskoulax> arctick, slackware prehaps
[08:35] <K-Rich> plasmo, it was fast :)
[08:35] <arctick> im trying to avoid slackware
[08:35] <plasmo> i got alot of ram for nautilus :P
[08:36] <zenwhen> My router/dns/caching/dhcp server runs fine with ubuntu. :0
[08:36] <jdub> arctick: ubuntu is a fully supported server OS too
[08:36] <K-Rich> arctick, i second Tomcat_'s suggestion
[08:36] <jocco> wow! can lives do flash movies fro free?
[08:36] <jocco> for
[08:36] <jdub> arctick: we just happen to have a kickarse desktop :)
[08:36] <zenwhen> with only 64MB of ram
[08:36] <zenwhen> :o
[08:36] <arctick> think i'll try a net install of debian sarge
[08:37] <arctick> my main system is ubuntu
[08:37] <kipod> helllo and good morning to ya all
[08:37] <xskoulax> morn'n kipod
[08:37] <manou_> morning kipod
[08:37] <netando> well, I think I'll get the install version now, thanks for the help
[08:37] <kipod> does someone knows whats the name of the next relese if ubuntu ?
[08:37] <xskoulax> horay
[08:37] <jdub> kipod: hoary hedgehog
[08:37] <kipod> ^^ thanks ppl
[08:37] <K-Rich> jdub, i do like the tweaks to gnome in ubuntu :)
[08:37] <netando> everyone seems to like using it
[08:38] <xskoulax> netando, ubuntu is a fantastic distro
[08:38] <netando> so see y'all later
[08:38] <netando> cool
[08:38] <xskoulax> cya have a good night
[08:38] <K-Rich> seems a bit behind on some packages, though most debian based distros are
[08:38] <K-Rich> including debian lol
[08:38] <memoryleak> hi
[08:39] <plasmo> ahlo
[08:39] <xskoulax> hi
[08:39] <memoryleak> what is the standard root password after the installation of ubuntu ?
[08:39] <K-Rich> poof, now i know who you are lol
[08:40] <calc> K-Rich: run hoary its pretty bleeding edge
[08:40] <calc> python 2.4 gnome 2.9.3
[08:40] <jdub> memoryleak: there is no root password, the account is disabled.
[08:40] <Skippy> from blenderchat?
[08:40] <plasmo> memoryleak: ubuntu uses sudo
[08:40] <jdub> memoryleak: see the RootSudo page on the wiki
[08:40] <K-Rich> Skippy, yeah
[08:40] <K-Rich> calc, oh? is it stable? also can i downgrade (need python 2.3)
[08:41] <Skippy> I think you talked me into downloading warty the other  day thankyou
[08:41] <Skippy> I love this distro so far :)
[08:41] <calc> K-Rich: well you seemed to be complaining that debian and ubuntu were too out of date for you ;)
[08:41] <calc> there is python 2.3 in hoary as well though
[08:41] <calc> doesn't crash too much, maybe not at all on x86
[08:42] <K-Rich> calc would you say it is equally as stable as sid on debian >
[08:42] <calc> i really need to get seb128 a bt on the weather crasher
[08:42] <calc> K-Rich: seems to be to me
[08:42] <crimsun> hoary seems fine.
[08:42] <K-Rich> calc, sweet.... downloading now
[08:42] <memoryleak> jdub, plasmo - ok thanks, i will boot the installation again
[08:42] <memoryleak> cu
[08:42] <plasmo> cya
[08:42] <crimsun> there are some teething pains, but that's expected.
[08:42] <calc> K-Rich: just get the mini.iso and install it over network ;)
[08:42] <crimsun> even hoary+sid+experimental works fine.
[08:42] <crimsun> warty itself is great.
[08:42] <calc> then you can upgrade each day ;)
[08:43] <K-Rich> crimsun, you mean i can mix & match them?
[08:44] <crimsun> K-Rich: you can, but you're totally on your own.
[08:44] <K-Rich> calc: or not...learned that lesson the hard way....
[08:44] <crimsun> K-Rich: (e.g., don't ask for help in here ;)
[08:44] <jdub> strongly discourage mixing packages
[08:44] <Amaranth> gtk.ListStore is kicking my ass :/
[08:44] <maximaus> evenin' all, can one run xfree with Hoary instead of Xorg? (works better with my i810 onboard)
[08:45] <Amaranth> maximaus: sudo apt-get install xserver-xfree86
[08:45] <calc> yea a newbie probably shouldn't run unstable on debian or ubuntu ;)
[08:45] <maximaus> :D
[08:45] <calc> it could easily break your machine and you wouldn't be able to recover it
[08:46] <kipod> can someone tell me whats the player name in this picture plz ...http://www.osnews.com/img/9097/ubuntu2.jpg
[08:46] <etorix> hmm .. i seem to have an inordinate quantity of pythons installed
[08:46] <kipod> its look like  a cool player
[08:47] <pepsi> isnt ctrl-z EOF?"
[08:47] <Amaranth> kipod: No idea, I thought for sure it was going to be muine. ;)
[08:48] <K-Rich> calc, not quite a newbie now, been win free for going on 2 years... but still don't know everything :P
[08:48] <decklin> pepsi, in windows it is. in linux, ctrl-d
[08:48] <arctick> hmm... is it imposible to do a net install of debian sarge? i'm not finding the boot disks anywhere, just the woody ones
[08:48] <calc> K-Rich: ok
[08:48] <crimsun> arctick: use the debian-installer RC
[08:48] <kipod> Amaranth, ;) say do u know how they made this WindowDropSadow?
[08:48] <lukins> arctick, did once look for testing version
[08:48] <crimsun> arctick: that will pull in Sarge
[08:49] <lukins> arctick, i would recommend the cd disk1 for sarge, much faster in my opinion
[08:49] <Amaranth> kipod: new in xorg, it's really neat
[08:49] <Amaranth> kipod: it's composite and xcompmgr
[08:50] <lukins> has anyone been able to mount ntfs from ubuntu?
[08:50] <calc> yes
[08:50] <kipod> Amaranth, the new realse is on Xorg?
[08:50] <etorix> kipod : thats xfmedia from xfce4
[08:50] <maximaus> nfts=easy
[08:50] <Amaranth> kipod: the shadows stuff is
[08:50] <Amaranth> etorix: heh, figures
[08:50] <etorix> the player
[08:50] <maximaus> lukins, just edit your /etc/fstab
[08:50] <Amaranth> btw, that screenshot shows they are using the gtk-qt theme engine (ick)
[08:50] <Amaranth> it uses QT to render GTK widgets
[08:50] <kipod> how do i activate this WindowDropShadow?
[08:50] <lukins> maximaus, i've been editing it al day
[08:50] <calc> though the system i did that on didn't use the standard ubuntu kernel for other reasons (the ide driver was borked)
[08:51] <etorix> yup .. its good .. simple .. sees my itunes folder etc
[08:51] <K-Rich> anywho... night all
[08:51] <lukins> maximaus can you share your ntfs line?
[08:51] <maximaus> certainly, let me grab it...
[08:51] <calc> i just did: mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt
[08:52] <calc> but then i didn't want it to mount every time the system booted
[08:52] <maximaus> lukins, my XP drive is the "master" so I added this to fstab:
[08:52] <maximaus> dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[08:55] <Skippy> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[08:55] <Skippy> I tried to compile this the other day
[08:55] <Skippy> wait not compile
[08:56] <roRy> what package do i use with dpkg-reconfigure to get mouse autodetection?
[08:56] <Skippy> useing alien and converting RPM
[08:56] <lukins> maximaus thanks, let me try that
[08:57] <maximaus> lukins, hope it works. :D
[08:59] <etorix> kipod .. got xcompmng and transset?
[08:59] <etorix> xcompmgr*
[09:02] <roRy> anyone???
[09:02] <roRy> like "dpkg-reconfigure XFree86" or something
[09:02] <kipod> etorix,  thanks for the care i m still upgradding to Hoary
[09:02] <etorix> ok .. i have a line for them shadows ..
[09:03] <etorix> its a xorg toy
[09:03] <kipod> etorix, though i m still looking for some guides about it .... may b u know some guides?
[09:03] <etorix> hmm
[09:03] <etorix> no .. just ask i guess .. xorg is a freedesktop ting ..
[09:04] <kipod> then may u can tell me how can i add DropShasow?
[09:04] <kipod> SHADOW*
[09:04] <spacey`stage> is that shadow stuff stable?
[09:04] <etorix> sec
[09:05] <kipod> as far as i read it is
[09:05] <etorix> apt-get install libxcomposite1 libxrender1 libxfixes3 libxdamage1
[09:05] <etorix> apt-get update && apt-get install xcompmgr
[09:05] <kipod> there is still a problem with the trens
[09:05] <etorix> thenuke: xcompmgr -cCfF -r7 -o.65 -l-10 -t-8 -D7 &
[09:05] <etorix> and stand well back
[09:06] <kipod> is it for me ? etorix
[09:06] <etorix> yup
[09:06] <etorix> all that
[09:06] <kipod> thanks
[09:06] <kipod> lemme copy paste is cuse i m still upgradeing
[09:06] <etorix> heh
[09:07] <etorix> you need to enable the composite or so extension  in xorg.conf .. im not sure ubuntu doesnt do it
[09:08] <kipod> humm.... thanks I think i can handel it from here though i don't have an i deal how i shall do it
[09:09] <GregoryD> anyone ever have any problems with the audio going out after installing KDE?  I lost mine as soon as I switched into KDE from gnome, and now it won't work in gnome either
[09:09] <kipod> GregoryD, did u used dmis?
[09:09] <kipod> dmix**
[09:09] <GregoryD> nope
[09:10] <kipod> =\ hum ... then it never happend to me ...
[09:10] <GregoryD> I didn't know whether I broke it by fiddling around or what, so I uninstalled and reinstalled again... same thing happened
[09:11] <etorix> have u arts enabled?
[09:12] <GregoryD> arts?
[09:12] <etorix> in kcontrol
[09:12] <arctick> is it possible to get nautilus to erase a cdrw?
[09:13] <GregoryD> I never changed any options in kcontrol, if that's what you mean
[09:13] <etorix> well go thru it
[09:13] <etorix> all
[09:14] <etorix> i always turn arts off in kcontrol
[09:15] <arctick> can anyone tell me how to erase a cdrw
[09:16] <GregoryD> where is arts in kcontrol?
[09:16] <etorix> in sound and multimedia
[09:17] <etorix> if you use kde go thru the entire list of stuff in kcontrol
[09:17] <etorix> all of it
[09:18] <etorix> ubuntu is set up for gnome
[09:19] <GregoryD> well, I just went through the entire list, and I don't see arts
[09:21] <etorix> sound and multimedia>enable the sound system
[09:21] <GregoryD> yeah, sound system is enabled
[09:21] <etorix> i turn it OFF
[09:21] <GregoryD> ah, okay
[09:22] <etorix> then restart x
[09:22] <etorix> and check yer volumes etc
[09:22] <GregoryD> alright... I'll try that
[09:28] <Skippy> here is the DEB for a nice looking video editor
[09:28] <Skippy> http://www.kiberpipa.org/~minmax/cinelerra/builds/pentium4/
[09:28] <Skippy> cinlerra
[09:33] <etorix> hmm .. dsc files ..
[09:33] <etorix> could try a amd64 build ..
[09:35] <mike_douglas> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers on a hoary system but I'm getting errors regarding /etc/x11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum missing from the system (when I run nvidia-glx-config enable). Anyway around this?
[09:35] <aquarius> If I have an icon mon my desktop for a plugged in hardware device like an iRiver, which is /media/sda1, is there any way I can do "mount -o remount,rw /media/sda1" from the GUI?
[09:40] <roRy> how can i find out the device i should use for my mouse?
[09:40] <roRy> i have a ps2 mouse plugged into ps2 port
[09:40] <roRy> but it moves very erratically
[09:40] <roRy> keeps returning to bottom left
[09:41] <roRy> clicks by itself etc
[09:41] <Mojo_Jojo> Hi, i'm having problems burning a cd using cdrecod. I keep getting this error message "cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[09:41] <Mojo_Jojo> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
[09:41] <Mojo_Jojo> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
[09:41] <Mojo_Jojo> cdrecord:
[09:41] <Mojo_Jojo> cdrecord: For more information, install the cdrtools-doc
[09:41] <Mojo_Jojo> cdrecord: package and read /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup ."
[09:41] <aquarius> roRy, that doesn't sound like you're using the wrong device, it sounds like you've got the wrong mouse protocol set.
[09:41] <aquarius> Mojo_Jojo, did you try "sudo cdrecord -scanbus"?
[09:42] <Mojo_Jojo> yup and it gives me that error
[09:42] <roRy> err... ok, mouse protocol?
[09:42] <aquarius> Mojo_Jojo, try "sudo su", and then, as root, do "cdrecord -scanbus".
[09:42] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: what device is your burner?
[09:43] <roRy> "Driver" is "mouse"
[09:43] <TTilus> howdy, how do i gain more control over gnome panels and applitudes?
[09:43] <Mojo_Jojo> I still get the same error, I have no clue a slimtype something haha it's a laptop :)
[09:43] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: how is it connected?
[09:43] <aquarius> roRy, does it have a mouse wheel?
[09:44] <Mojo_Jojo> humm I guess it would be "built-in"?:S
[09:44] <aquarius> roRy, what's the "Protocol" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?
[09:44] <TTilus> i have a debian stable box too, w gnome 1.4 (or something like that) and ive go whole a lot of more config options for panels and suchathings
[09:44] <Mojo_Jojo> i'm on my laptop which is an Averatec 6100
[09:45] <roRy> aquarius, no, no wheel
[09:45] <Mojo_Jojo> I really need to get it working because I need it for school in the morning :(
[09:45] <crimsun> TTilus: come again?
[09:45] <TTilus> crimsun: ?
[09:45] <crimsun> TTilus: I have no idea what you're asking
[09:45] <roRy> i dont see "Protocol" (in "InputDevice" section)
[09:45] <aquarius> roRy, is there an Option "Protocol"?
[09:45] <roRy> oh wait
[09:46] <roRy> ImPS/2
[09:46] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: is it connected via parallel port? usb? internally?
[09:46] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: look carefully at `dmesg'
[09:46] <Mojo_Jojo> internally
[09:46] <roRy> maybe i should comment out the zaxismapping too
[09:47] <ChunkAhoy> Hello.  i had problems installing Debian on my PC.  i was wondering if Ubuntu suports A7N8X motherboards ?
[09:47] <Mojo_Jojo> what am I looking for?
[09:47] <aquarius> roRy, that might be the problem. ImPS/2 is for wheel mice, pretty much. That should probably be "PS/2".
[09:47] <kipod> dudes i must ask u some thingy ... do u know how can i localize my system ?
[09:47] <Mojo_Jojo> I found this hdc: Slimtype DVDRW SDW-431S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[09:47] <TTilus> gnome desktop, right click a panel, select properties and - whoa - i see panel configuration dialog having propably 1/4 of the options i get to change in gnome 1.4 (my debian stable box)
[09:48] <vIkSiT> hmm.. can anyone see this?
[09:48] <TTilus> where are the rest?
[09:48] <vIkSiT> not sure if my connection's dead, or the channel is!
[09:48] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: good. Now tell me what device it is.
[09:48] <aquarius> vIkSiT, yes, it can be seen.
[09:48] <TTilus> vIkSiT: at least i do
[09:48] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: /dev/hd?
[09:48] <Mojo_Jojo> hdc
[09:49] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: so you'll be using `cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc ...'
[09:49] <roRy> okay thanks aquarius
[09:49] <Mojo_Jojo> ok i'll try
[09:49] <roRy> its moot now though.... person whose mouse i was borrowing came to office and now mouseless :/
[09:49] <ChunkAhoy> nobody knows if Ubuntu suports A7n8x ?
[09:50] <aquarius> ChunkAhoy, I don't know, certainly :)
[09:50] <Mojo_Jojo> yay thanks crimsun :D:D:D you just saved me
[09:50] <crimsun> ChunkAhoy: look on Google
[09:50] <ChunkAhoy> i just did,  i can't find
[09:50] <ChunkAhoy> :(
[09:51] <aquarius> What is it that mounts hotplugged devices in /media?
[09:51] <crimsun> ChunkAhoy: what is "A7n8x?"
[09:51] <crimsun> ChunkAhoy: a motherboard model?
[09:51] <ChunkAhoy> i'm really having a hard time installing a linux distribution on that motherboard
[09:51] <xskoulax> its an asus mobo
[09:51] <ChunkAhoy> yes,  its the model
[09:51] <ChunkAhoy> in based on the nforce2 chipset
[09:51] <ChunkAhoy> its based
[09:51] <crimsun> ChunkAhoy: then it works fine.
[09:52] <Mojo_Jojo> can cdrecord burn dvds???
[09:52] <ChunkAhoy> are you 100% positive crimson,  cause Debian doesnt suport it
[09:52] <ChunkAhoy> just want to be sure
[09:52] <crimsun> ChunkAhoy: of course Debian supports it.
[09:52] <crimsun> ChunkAhoy: a nice 2.6 kernel with forcedeth (network), snd-intel8x0 (sound), nvidia drivers (graphics)
[09:52] <ChunkAhoy> no it doesnt,   you have to get through this to set up Debian on the A7n8x http://www.neuro-tech.net/archives/000244.html
[09:52] <ChunkAhoy> pain in the ass
[09:53] <ChunkAhoy> oh
[09:53] <ChunkAhoy> why is Debian NetInstall crashing all the time at different places than  :(
[09:53] <aquarius> Ah, /etc/hal/device.d/fstab-update.hal updates the fstab and chooses a device name.
[09:54] <Mojo_Jojo> does anyone know what happend to the k3b howto that was on the ubuntu wiki?
[09:54] <crimsun> Mojo_Jojo: you want 'dvd+rw-tools'
[09:54] <Mojo_Jojo> ok :)
[09:54] <ChunkAhoy> well,  i'll give a try with Ubuntu Crimson,   thx for the help.
[09:54] <crimsun> np.
[09:55] <ChunkAhoy> oh,  one last thing  ,  is there a ubuntu net install ?
[09:55] <crimsun> no
[09:55] <crimsun> use woody or sarge netinstall, then dist-upgrade to warty
[09:55] <Ear3ndil> hi
[09:56] <Mojo_Jojo> hi :)
[09:56] <ChunkAhoy> ok, thx,  bbl
[10:06] <GregoryD> heh, oh well, still no sound
[10:36] <etorix> hmm
[10:36] <etorix> Removing nvidia-glx ...
[10:36] <etorix> dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to
[10:36] <etorix>  when removing `diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/X11R6/lib32/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'
[10:37] <etorix> found `diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'
[10:39] <etorix> dpkg-divert eh
[10:39] <etorix> NOTES
[10:39] <etorix>        When adding, default is --local and --divert <original>.distrib.   When
[10:39] <etorix>        removing, --package or --local and --divert must match if specified.
[10:39] <etorix> gah
[10:40] <crimsun> are you using current hoary?
[10:40] <crimsun> (e.g., xorg is ..8?)
[10:40] <etorix> x64 hoary
[10:41] <crimsun> there are some symlink issues temporarily, but I don't think they affect xlibmesa
[10:41] <etorix> what version do you want ?
[10:42] <crimsun> for x86_64? no idea
[10:42] <crimsun> the one I'm referring to is in bugzilla
[10:43] <crimsun> but I don't believe it's related to what you're quoting
[10:43] <etorix> /usr/X11R6/lib32/ vs /usr/X11R6/lib/
[10:45] <RuffianSoldier> i wish I could get this damn sound problem resolved :-/
[10:45] <etorix> glx aint loading  .. soi was following a wiki howto and getting a amd64-k8 kernel  ..
[10:48] <PotajiTo> wenas
[10:53] <Adrenal> how do i install xchat plugins?
[10:56] <Adrenal> anybody?
[10:56] <Adrenal> join #xchat
[11:03] <wood1> Hi to all
[11:04] <wood1> good to be back at #ubuntu
[11:04] <martin_> welcome back :)
[11:04] <wood1> thanks
[11:04] <wood1> so how is Hoary ?
[11:04] <wood1> Any problems in Hoary
[11:05] <martin_> ( im new here, 5 days )
[11:05] <martin_> sorry, dont know what you're talking bout :)
[11:08] <xskoulax> how ya doing martin_
[11:09] <beezly> does hoary support intalling to root raid yet?
[11:10] <memoryleak> hi
[11:10] <kipod> hello
[11:13] <wood1> Does somebody know how much space GMplayer takes ??
[11:14] <kipod> 9m more or less
[11:14] <wood1> Just 9 MB
[11:14] <wood1> I mean the graphical version of Mplayer
[11:16] <etorix> hmm .. ok ive broken x again
[11:16] <roRy> is there a tool i can use to benchmark disk performance?
[11:16] <roRy> preferably command line
[11:16] <etorix> i tihink i might back up some configs an reinstall a base
[11:17] <housetier> roRy sysstat or so
[11:17] <roRy> ta
[11:17] <wood1> How do I remove the GNOME Desktop and install xfce ?
[11:18] <wood1> How much space do I get in return ?
[11:18] <wood1> By the way, how do I use bit torrent ?
[11:19] <wood1> Amaranth, do you have some ideas ?
[11:19] <memoryleak> wood1: i removed gnome, and installed xfc4 5 minutes ago
[11:19] <memoryleak> wood1: :)
[11:19] <wood1> Wow, that's great
[11:20] <wood1> How much space did you get free ?
[11:20] <wood1> after that ?
[11:20] <etorix> i bet that took the neighbors out
[11:21] <memoryleak> eh, i don't know, but it should be about 30 MB or more
[11:22] <wood1> Just 30 MB
[11:22] <wood1> memoryleak, how do you access the debian apps menu in xfce4 ?
[11:23] <vegai> are there floppies or a minimal install CD for ubuntu?
[11:23] <etorix> theres a debian menu on ubuntu?
[11:23] <memoryleak> vegai: ther is an option to install a minimal version of ubuntu
[11:23] <vegai> I'm on a 256Kb/s connection, and it takes a while to dl the whole >500MB image...
[11:23] <memoryleak> wood1: to the debian menu, i do not access
[11:24] <memoryleak> vegai: yes, that's true
[11:24] <wood1> memory, how do you get the applications menu when you right right on the empty desktop in XFCE ?
[11:24] <vegai> memoryleak: is that my only option?
[11:24] <vegai> (downloading the large ISO)
[11:24] <etorix> no .. you can debootstrap it
[11:24] <wood1> Well you can download the 180 Debian ISO Image
[11:25] <wood1> 180 MB Debian ISO Image
[11:25] <etorix> theres howtos in the wiki
[11:25] <vegai> hmm. Will the system be the same?
[11:25] <wood1> Well almost
[11:25] <wood1> Just change your /etc/apt/sources.list and update and upgrade
[11:25] <memoryleak> wood1: but there is the xfce4-panel
[11:25] <tuxJr_14> hi
[11:25] <vegai> right....
[11:26] <memoryleak> wood1: yes
[11:26] <vegai> I'll try that, thanks
[11:26] <etorix> netinstall sarge and distupgrade and so on
[11:26] <wood1> Well memory, do you see all the applications installed from that panel in XFCE ?
[11:27] <memoryleak> wood1: no, there is no menu like in gnome
[11:27] <vegai> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto/view?searchterm=floppy ;)
[11:27] <wood1> But how do you get the applications list in XFCE ?
[11:27] <etorix> or in debian
[11:27] <wood1> I used to see it before
[11:27] <etorix> it says there is ..i aint got it to work yet tho
[11:27] <martin_> ppl, im having trouble understanding what are relative paths.. im studying the linux documentation project but still dont understand
[11:28] <memoryleak> but if you installed the xfce4-minicmd-plugin you can just enter the command
[11:28] <tuxJr_14> just right click on the desktop in xfce
[11:28] <wood1> Well I have that command option
[11:28] <wood1> I want to see the applications menu list like that in Fluxbox
[11:28] <wood1> in XFCE too
[11:28] <etorix> in ubuntu?
[11:28] <etorix> doesnt work for me
[11:28] <etorix> theres a run
[11:29] <roRy> anyone know the default XDMCP udp port to listen on?
[11:29] <memoryleak> wood1: i don't know a menu like you want
[11:31] <wood1> Memory, you know how to create a Menu to list all the installed applications in XFCE ?
[11:34] <roRy> nevermind... answer is 177 for future reference
[11:36] <memoryleak> wood1: no
[11:36] <memoryleak> wood1: you can costumize your panel
[11:37] <memoryleak> wood1: and add your preffered apps
[11:37] <wood1> Ok
[11:37] <wood1> You said that you only got 30 MB after removing GNOME 2.8
[11:37] <wood1> But XFCE occupies almost 30 MB too
[11:38] <memoryleak> wood1: i said i don't remember how much, i only guess ..
[11:38] <memoryleak> wood1: one moment, i can tell you how much
[11:38] <wood1> Which command did you use to remove GNOME: ?
[11:39] <memoryleak> wood1: more than 60 MB but it can be much more
[11:40] <wood1> How did you remove your GNOME: apt-get remove ???
[11:40] <memoryleak> wood1: first, i added new sources to the sources.list and then
[11:40] <memoryleak> wood1: apt-get --purge remove gnome-desktop-environment
[11:41] <sii> anyone have any tips on using keychain instead of the plain ssh-agent with gnome/ubuntu?
[11:43] <wood1> memory, do you know other programs which we can safely remove? you see my harddisk is almost 95 % full
[11:43] <memoryleak> wood1: all that gnome-*
[11:44] <wood1> Well anything which does not affect the system
[11:44] <memoryleak> wood1: i don't know what you need, and what not
[11:45] <memoryleak> wood1: first remove gnome-desktop-environment and gnome-*
[11:45] <wood1> Well I just need Emacs and Openoffice and of course a browser
[11:45] <memoryleak> wood1: you can remove late other packages
[11:45] <memoryleak> later
[11:45] <wood1> plus Evolution
[11:45] <kipod> does any one here have problem with gDesklets on hoary ?
[11:46] <memoryleak> wood1: ok, then you can also remove gaim, xchat and so on
[11:46] <wood1> If I remove vim, it seems to affect the Ubuntu-Base system packages
[11:46] <memoryleak> wood1: you should not do that if that affects the base
[11:46] <roRy> why would you want to remove vim?
[11:47] <wood1> Well I don't like Vim, I prefer Emacs over Vi
[11:47] <memoryleak> wood1: dpkg -l | grep gnome
[11:47] <siretart> wood1: try debfoster
[11:48] <samsouk> vim doesn't save history or position in file : anyone?
[11:48] <memoryleak> wood1: than pick the packagas, but don't remove the lib*
[11:48] <wood1> Can't we see the size of the packages ?
[11:50] <wood1> I have a lot of MP3 files
[11:50] <wood1> But the problem is that I can't play them over the network if I move it to the other Network PCs'
[11:51] <squareyes> Evening all
[11:51] <wood1> Can't we play movies and MP3s without copying it to our local hard disk in Ubuntu ?
[11:51] <wood1> Memoryleak
[11:51] <wood1> over the network
[11:52] <vegai> hmh... I will need an alsa-driver from CVS for my soundcard to work. Will this be tough to do in Ubuntu?
[11:52] <vegai> I mean, do I have to do a lot of work to run around the package management?
[11:52] <quazimop> just downloading the amd64 port since debian's amd64 cds only come in netinstall/netboot and error out on me, is there a seperate channel for the amd64bit port, or do i ask my amd64 questions in here?
[11:53] <Palle> how do i install Grub?? i can't understand the manual
[11:53] <wood1> What do you mean by installing GRUB
[11:53] <quazimop> there's quite a few grub howto's and guides out there, google ;)
[11:54] <wood1> you mean from the Ubuntu CD ?
[11:54] <Palle> i've installed windows so my Grub got uninstalled somehpw
[11:55] <wood1> Well use the Ubuntu CD
[11:55] <Palle> yeah i use the live cd and mount my / partition and chroot
[11:56] <Palle> the install-cd?
[11:56] <Aoi> hello, I'm having trouble with Xorg + nvidia on Hoary. It was everything okay running good, but 3 boot later resolution got messy and just show 640x480 resolution (I've checked /etc/X11/Xorg.conf but it seems X is ignoring this file). Please I'm stuck, help me!
[11:56] <squareyes> For the last week have been trying to get Deb3.0r2 install to work
[11:57] <squareyes> how does Ubuntu compare regarding install probs
[11:57] <wood1> Ubuntu is like installing Windows 2000
[11:59] <squareyes> had probs with XFree, dial up, you name it still not fixed, am using Knoppix CD for an operating system.
[11:59] <wood1> So how do I play MP3s and Movies from my Network ?
[11:59] <wood1> What kind of problems with XFree
[11:59] <squareyes> does Ubuntu use aptget the same as Deb?
[11:59] <wood1> I use Ubuntu in my home PC with Dial-up
[12:00] <wood1> sure man
[12:00] <wood1> Ubuntu apt-get is 100% same as Debian
[12:00] <squareyes> copyed file from Knoppix CD to get it X to work
[12:00] <squareyes> coldn't find a screen
[12:02] <wood1> What went wrong when you installed Ubuntu ?
[12:02] <wood1> Did you get pass everything from the CD ?
[12:03] <quazimop> Has anyone had any experience with installing Ubuntu base, changing the sources.list to point to pure64/sid (debian amd64 port) and using that?
[12:03] <squareyes> havn't tried it yet, thats why I am asking , the file XF86Config-4
[12:05] <samsouk> viminfo problem solved:  sudo vim --> creates .viminfo in my home / belongs to root
[12:06] <samsouk> I don't understand sudo behaviour
[12:06] <decklin> maybe you want sudo -H
[12:07] <kipod> does not hoary based on xorg?
[12:07] <kipod> i just upgraded and i can't find the xog.conf files....
[12:07] <samsouk> decklin: that's it! thanks
[12:08] <xskoulax> anyone know how well 4g ipods work with ubuntu?
[12:10] <PotajiTo> wenas
[12:14] <Aoi> kipod, /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[12:14] <kipod> its not there..... Aoi
[12:14] <Aoi> mine is here, run xorgconfig
[12:15] <kipod> Aoi,  i just note that x-window-system-core wasn't installed .... so i m installing it now
[12:16] <etorix> make a copy of xf86config-4 an call it xorg.conf
[12:16] <etorix> or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:16] <Aoi> kipod, had you started internet update at installation time?
[12:17] <kipod> Aoi,  no.... and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not work ... -=
[12:17] <kipod> =\
[12:17] <Aoi> hm weird
[12:17] <kipod> okay my bad  i shoulld have run it as root
[12:17] <Aoi> I was running hoary pretty well, today nvidia resolution got messy
[12:19] <kipod> what  is  keyboard variant ?
[12:19] <etorix> heg .. my x is b0rked in hoary
[12:24] <findeton> hi !+
[12:24] <findeton> anyone configured freenx for ubuntu here?
[12:24] <findeton> I've tried with kanopix repository, but got nxclient and other failed deps
[12:25] <findeton> then I've removed that repository, and added Ubuntu-backports,
[12:25] <findeton> which  despite being supossed to have freenx, my apt doesn't found any package
[12:27] <findeton> toc toc, noone alive ?  :)
[12:27] <housetier> many are alive
[12:28] <samsouk> at least two of us :)
[12:30] <findeton> then we're three ! :)
[12:30] <Dekkard> gweather applet is now a crash machine on hoary
[12:31] <findeton> hey, doing an apt-get update I'm getting a lot of:
[12:31] <findeton> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages
[12:31] <findeton>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)
[12:32] <findeton> it's me or it's the servers fault?
[12:33] <housetier> it seems the host name isnt resolved correctly
[12:33] <samsouk> findeton: is your network setting ok ?
[12:33] <housetier> <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't look sensible to me
[12:33] <samsouk> findeton:  host archive.ubuntu.com
[12:34] <findeton> archive.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:34] <samsouk> findeton: that's good
[12:34] <samsouk> ping ?
[12:34] <findeton> 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=78.0 ms
[12:35] <findeton> it's kinda weird isn't it..?
[12:35] <samsouk> findeton: so your route is ok
[12:35] <findeton> it seems apt's fault..?
[12:37] <findeton> bah
[12:37] <findeton> now it works
[12:37] <findeton> :-?
[12:41] <findeton> well, anyway
[12:41] <findeton> nayone using ubuntu-backports here?
[12:42] <findeton> a few minutes ago I saw a webpage when entering in http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/
[12:42] <findeton> now I see a directory listing - o_O
[12:43] <findeton> (or is it me, that I'm seeing ilusions? :P)
[12:44] <MoofyXmas> findeton: I see a webpage
[12:44] <findeton> oh, now I can see a webpage
[12:45] <findeton> MoofyXmas: I was really seeing a directory listing, belive me or not hehehe
[12:45] <findeton> and http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu/ was not working, temporally
[12:46] <PotajiTo> wenas
[12:46] <llun_ved> Anyone here use a USB flashdrive with Ubuntu?
[12:46] <findeton> PotajiTo: hey!
[12:47] <roRy> heh, ubuntu on usb?
[12:47] <findeton> PotajiTo: si quieres tenemos tambin un canal irc en espaol,
[12:47] <findeton> es #ubuntu-es
[12:49] <llun_ved> I would install Ubuntu from CD. Then I would try to use my USB flashdrive. It never recognizes. It's the only thing that keeps me from jumping from Slackware to Ubuntu.
[12:50] <findeton> ++!#?`*, the repositories are behaving crazy...!
[12:51] <PotajiTo> .. llun_ved for using the usb flashdrive I booted with knoppix then connect it, copy the fstab and add it to ubuntu xD it worked
[12:53] <findeton> something strange happening here
[12:53] <findeton> samsouk
[12:53] <findeton> samsouk: I think I know where the problem is
[12:54] <Ilici> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i'm having a problem with FAT32 disks - when i mount them, in nautilus i can't do anything with the files or dirs, and they all show size 0
[12:54] <Ilici> i can browse the files using the shell though
[12:54] <findeton> samsouk: it must be something related to my modem-router (which is a shit that doesn't support ipv6 so I had to disable it, etc)
[12:54] <findeton> it must be something related to that, becuase now when I try to access to http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ I see google webpage
[12:55] <findeton> that must mean something hehe
[12:55] <findeton> I can go, for example, to http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/imghp?hl=es&tab=wi&q= if Want to search images
[12:55] <findeton> (in google)
[12:55] <Potaje> wenas
[12:56] <findeton> re
[12:56] <Kyaneos> wenas
[12:59] <Ilici> hm, anyone ?
[12:59] <findeton> hm?
[01:00] <Ilici> i'm having a problem with FAT32 disks - when i mount them, in nautilus i can't do anything with the files or dirs, and they all show size 0
[01:00] <roRy> install debian
[01:01] <Ilici> i've tried debian, but it was too much a hassle to update everything to the newest versions
[01:02] <samsouk> findeton: maybe your ISP is proxying you ?
[01:03] <kipod> how  can i m run this command evry bootup ?xcompmgr -c &?
[01:03] <samsouk> findeton: anyway, you don't need ipv6, you can desactivate it
[01:05] <cenerentola> will k3b break any package?
[01:05] <cenerentola> i mean if i install it
[01:07] <mjr> kipod, you don't want to run it every bootup, but on your X-session; add it in desktop preferences/sessions
[01:07] <cenerentola> mjr: do you know what files does that program change?
[01:08] <kipod> mjr,  thanks man ... can u tell how i do that plz
[01:14] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[01:14] <kipod> hello
[01:14] <kipod> WellCome
[01:15] <da_bon_bon> i know there are many fedora vs. ubuntu out there, but can anyone give me personal handson opinion?
[01:15] <roRy> ubuntu sux0rz
[01:16] <da_bon_bon> roRy: why so?
[01:19] <findeton> kipod: did you solve the problem?
[01:19] <afonit> do any of you guys know that image viewing program that Novell is creating?
[01:20] <kipod> findeton,  NO .... i m still looking at google
[01:21] <wood1> How do I play MP3s and movies from a Network ?
[01:21] <kipod> under  X-session .... i don't find what i m looking for but i found some nice thingys .... do u think u can help findeton  ?
[01:21] <wood1> Amaranth, any ideas how do I play MP3s and Movies over a Network ?
[01:21] <wood1> Treenaks, are you there?
[01:21] <wood1> Crimsun ???
[01:23] <tsw> wood1: mount the network drive and use it as usually...
[01:23] <afonit> woodl: check out VideoLAN, you need to have a broadcast point
[01:24] <roRy> da_bon_bon, nautilus + smb is b0rked
[01:24] <memoryleak> cu
[01:25] <afonit> wood1:  http://www.videolan.org/
[01:29] <Pozac> hey :)
[01:30] <Pozac> How can I go about changing the size of the mouse cursor at runtime?
[01:30] <wood1> what's the exact command syntax to mount Network PCs ?
[01:31] <Pozac> what's the exact Network PC?
[01:31] <congyu> How to use p2p program?
[01:31] <wood1> Well there are both Windows NT PCs and Ubuntu PCs
[01:31] <wood1> on the network
[01:32] <Pozac> congyu, which?
[01:32] <kipod> can someone plz could tell me how can i add a command to the session startup .... ?
[01:32] <Pozac> wood1, can't you just browse them or add them as network places? :)
[01:33] <congyu> sorry
[01:33] <Pozac> congyu, there are several available
[01:34] <Pozac> kipod, I'm not sure what the best way is - try adding a ~/.gnomerc file with the command in it
[01:34] <kipod> port7,  thanks man
[01:35] <Pozac> np :)
[01:35] <wood1> Pozac, I can browse over the Network
[01:36] <wood1> But I play the MP3s and Movies over the Network. I have to copy them locally on my  hard disk
[01:36] <Pozac> wood1, if you use a gnome-vfs compatible player, you should be able to play them remotely
[01:37] <Pozac> otherwise, it's something like mount -t smbfs //host/share /mnt/point
[01:37] <Pozac> possibly mount -t smbfs ////host//share /mnt/point
[01:38] <wood1> Well how do I create a share in GNOME share in Ubuntu ?
[01:38] <Pozac> wood1, Applications -> System -> Shares
[01:39] <wood1> I don't have the Shares in Applications>Systems ???
[01:39] <Pozac> hmm
[01:39] <Pozac> just a sec
[01:40] <Quazion> for some reason when i upload pictures tru gnome-vfs they get corrupted
[01:41] <Quazion> when i upload them with normal commandline ftp everything is fine
[01:41] <Pozac> wood1, Sorry, I've been using Hoary for too long already :( it seems you will be have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:43] <Pozac> wood1, make sure the samba package is installed if haven't already :)
[01:46] <wood1> It is installed
[01:47] <wood1> Pozac , what's next ?
[01:49] <wood1> How do I create a Samba Share of a particular folder in /home/Username ???
[01:50] <LucaBrasi> can ya use synaptic to auto update all currently installed packages?
[01:50] <Pozac> wood1, I'm looking in to it. Btw, /home/Username is already shared, you need to connect as the proper user
[01:50] <Pozac> wood1, are you able to find your ubuntu machines by browsing the network?
[01:51] <tsw> is there something going on with security.ubuntu.com? im getting some data, but bigger files wont complete
[01:52] <kipod> does someone knows y after i have upgraded to hoery i don't c my HDD on the Computer ?
[01:53] <wood1> Yes I can
[01:54] <LucaBrasi> any way to update all currently installed packaged using synaptic ??
[01:55] <fsmw> hi all!
[01:55] <wood1> Prozac, any ideas for the Samba Network thing ?
[01:55] <wood1> hey
[01:55] <tsw> hmm now the all the files came ok..
[01:55] <fsmw> is there a way to avoid "Saving the System Clock time to the Hardware Clock..."?
[01:55] <fsmw> my systems always hang at this point!
[01:55] <Pozac> wood1, I'm working on it. Edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and see the examples.
[01:56] <Pozac> wood1, when you're done, run 'sudo testparm'
[01:58] <mgedmin> I am trying to set up an Ubuntu system to boot from a software RAID-1 array, remotely
[01:58] <mgedmin> it is fun, for certain definitions of "fun"
[02:00] <mgedmin> I have achieved partial success
[02:00] <optimized> how do you check your Machines IP address??
[02:00] <mgedmin> optimized: 'ip addr' or 'ifconfig'
[02:00] <optimized> thanks!
[02:02] <mgedmin> I think there's a race condition in the startup process: fsck -a complains that it cannot find /dev/md1 to /dev/md4, however when someone finally comes up to the console and presses ^D to continue, the system boots and /dev/md1 through /dev/md4 are mounted on their proper mountpoints
[02:02] <mgedmin> could it be that the device nodes are created a little bit too late?
[02:02] <wood1> prozac, what's going on, Now I can't access my Network PCs ?
[02:03] <wood1> What's happening ?
[02:03] <wood1> It was working till 10 minutes ago
[02:04] <jiyuu0> anyone knows how to export the accounts settings for evolution?
[02:05] <fsmw> is there a way to avoid "Saving the System Clock time to the Hardware Clock..." at shutdown?
[02:07] <kipod> did someone here run gDesklets  on Ubuntu hoary ?
[02:08] <edulix> hi !
[02:08] <edulix> how can I install a .deb ?
[02:08] <kipod> dpkg -i PACKAGENAME.deb
[02:08] <edulix> something like I is normally done via rpm -Uvh myrpm.rpm
[02:09] <edulix> ok
[02:09] <kipod> ohhh u better run synaptic
[02:10] <edulix> oh, I already used dpkg
[02:10] <edulix> synaptic can manage debs that are not in any repository ?
[02:10] <edulix> I thought it couldn't :)
[02:10] <kipod> no i think it can't
[02:14] <LucaBrasi> is firefox 0.9.3 still the latest ubuntu release???
[02:14] <edulix> LucasBrasi: my borther just installed 1.0 via apt
[02:15] <LucaBrasi> but synaptic says that 'reverted to 0.9.3ubuntu' crap is the latest ??
[02:16] <edulix> he had exactly the same problem
[02:16] <edulix> let me ask him what he did
[02:17] <occy> morning *
[02:17] <occy> crimsun: around?
[02:17] <edulix> good one!
[02:18] <edulix> LucasBrasi: he says that he removed ubuntu's firefox and then installed the one provided in mozilla.org :P
[02:18] <occy> if I try and run java_vm  it says I need to set both JAVA_HOME and PLUGIN_HOME
[02:18] <occy> how do I set that?
[02:19] <edulix> occy : in your ~/.bahsrc add some exports
[02:19] <Kamion> LucaBrasi: that's the latest version in warty.
[02:19] <edulix> like, for example export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java/home
[02:19] <occy> ahh  and plugin just points to the plugin dir then.
[02:19] <occy> ok
[02:20] <Kamion> LucaBrasi: warty is a stable release, and therefore does not change except for security and other critical updates.
[02:20] <edulix> occy: well I've never set it right, but I supposse
[02:20] <edulix> /usr/NX/bin/nxclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:20] <edulix> where tgo get that lib?
[02:21] <Kamion> edulix: install the libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package from universe
[02:21] <edulix> oks
[02:21] <edulix> kamion: how did you know that it was in 2.10 ?
[02:22] <Kamion> edulix: I grepped the Contents file on an Ubuntu mirror
[02:22] <edulix> BTW, a apt-cache search  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 didn't find it.
[02:22] <edulix> ah ok
[02:22] <LucaBrasi> Kamion, but firefox 0.9.3 is exploitable and 1.0 is the latest anyway
[02:22] <Kamion> apt-cache search only searches package names and descriptions, not the list of filenames within the package.
[02:23] <Kamion> LucaBrasi: 1.0 wasn't released when we released warty, and we backport security patches.
[02:23] <Kamion> we got burnt badly by trying to follow the 1.0 release candidate; it broke a lot of things, so we weren't interested in trying to cram 1.0 into warty at the last moment.
[02:23] <edulix> Kamion: oh, I though that it serched package files, just like (if I'm correct) it does in apt4rpm
[02:23] <findeton> hi edulix ;)
[02:24] <edulix> maybe that's one of the reason for apt4rpm being so slow
[02:24] <Kamion> edulix: I doubt it, unless apt4rpm have patched it really viciously. That'd be a major semantic change.
[02:24] <edulix> hey bro!
[02:24] <Kamion> edulix: try auto-apt or apt-file
[02:24] <edulix> ah ok
[02:24] <edulix> well it's lunch time, bbl !
[02:24] <scizzo> http://beta.scrappy.ath.cx/gnu-linux/howto/apt_basics.html  <---some fun little things I did for Debian stuff
[02:25] <edulix> scizzo: thanks ;)
[02:26] <scizzo> edulix: its old...but still
[02:44] <miguel> hi
[02:44] <miguel> somebody has configure de vmware ?
[02:45] <miguel> i have problems with the kernel headers
[02:45] <miguel> nobody how can i install vmware ?
[02:46] <guille_> hello
[02:46] <miguel> hi
[02:46] <miguel> nobody knows how can i install vmware ?
[02:47] <guille_> i am trying to install xawtv, i cannot find the package, can anyone say which it is?
[02:47] <guille_> miguel, you have to download it from it web page
[02:48] <miguel> no, its not free
[02:49] <miguel> but i have the files to install it
[02:49] <guille_> you can buy it there or try the demo
[02:49] <miguel> but the instalation stops asking me , where i have the kernel headers
[02:49] <guille_> miguel, have you installed kernel sources?
[02:50] <miguel> yes
[02:51] <miguel> a diferent version of headers
[02:51] <guille_> write down the path (/usr/src/linux maybe)
[02:51] <miguel> i cant find the same versoin on headers
[02:51] <guille_> you need yor headers
[02:51] <miguel> i made a "ln -s"
[02:51] <guille_> change your kernel
[02:51] <miguel> but no
[02:51] <miguel> i dont want to back my kernel i have the last
[02:51] <guille_> download the sources from kernel.org
[02:52] <miguel> okis
[02:52] <miguel> i will see
[02:52] <miguel> ty
[02:52] <guille_> de nada :P
[02:52] <Brikkah> i have just installed ubuntu, but when i try to setup my connection with "sudo pppoeconf" the computer freezes.. what to do ??
[02:57] <miguel> upgrade the repositories
[02:57] <miguel> apt-get update
[02:57] <miguel> apt-get upgrade
[02:57] <miguel> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:58] <Brikkah> to me ?
[02:59] <miguel> yes tu u
[02:59] <Brikkah> ok
[02:59] <Brikkah> i will try
[03:04] <Lazydog> anyone awake?
[03:05] <Lazydog> i have just received my shipment of cd's and during the install stage i have noticed that it never asked me for a root password.  why is this?
[03:07] <Kamion> Lazydog: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[03:07] <Kamion> the installer mentions this on the first screen after the first reboot
[03:08] <roRy> Lazydog 2 lazy to read it... :p
[03:09] <Lazydog> Kamion: thnx  i missed this.  is there a reason why they decided to do things this way?  i mean a security reason why?
[03:09] <Brikkah> i have just installed ubuntu, but when i try to setup my connection with "sudo pppoeconf" the computer freezes.. what to do ??
[03:09] <Lazydog> roRy: have to live up to my nick. :)
[03:09] <Kamion> Lazydog: initially more usability actually; see the wiki, it explains the thinking
[03:10] <Lazydog> Kamion: thnx i'll look into this
[03:12] <Brikkah> anyone can help me ?
[03:14] <martin_> could someone please explain to me what is a relative path?
[03:16] <vinic_> hi people! I can't get any midi files to be played... seems like I don't have a /dev/sequencer running whereas i know it works under Windows. Anyone can help?
[03:16] <vinic_> what may I do/try/experience?
[03:16] <qbeek> martin_, this is the contrary of an absolute path beginning at the root "/".
[03:19] <vinic_> ...
[03:19] <Fator_Dee> Could someone help me in finding a reason why I can't start my filebrowser?
[03:19] <vinic_> maybe...
[03:19] <vinic_> ;)
[03:20] <vinic_> try to launch it from terminal to see what it returns
[03:20] <djtansey> anyone here know of a simple way to setup of an authenticated smtp server? i am using postfix presently but i can't find a simple guide to setting up athenticatin before sending mail
[03:21] <Fator_Dee> vinic_: it doesn't give any output
[03:21] <vinic_> Fator_Dee : it just go back to $ ?
[03:21] <Fator_Dee> no
[03:22] <Fator_Dee> nothing happens, thats all
[03:22] <Fator_Dee> but it wont bounce me back to the terminal, I have to end it with ctrl+c
[03:22] <vinic_> Fator_Dee : try to open System Monitor to see if any of those you launched are running...
[03:23] <qbeek> Fator_Dee, try nautilus --check
[03:23] <Fator_Dee> there are many instances of nautilus on the system monitor
[03:24] <vinic_> Fator_Dee : kill them all!!!
[03:24] <vinic_> :)
[03:24] <Fator_Dee> !
[03:24] <Fator_Dee> i'll try
[03:24] <vinic_> Fator_Dee : and try to launch again
[03:24] <Fator_Dee> qbeek: i'll check that out too
[03:25] <t17mh> I want to install a new fs driver (iriverfs) which is provided as a patch to the kernel. Is there a way to compile and install while keeping my packaged kernel?
[03:27] <Fator_Dee> argh, another problem :-p
[03:27] <Fator_Dee> my XFree86 acted up again
[03:28] <vinic_> Fator_Dee : reinstall Ubuntu! :P    No, jockin'
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> how can I restart my X?
[03:29] <vinic_> reboot
[03:29] <t17mh> Factor_Dee: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:29] <vinic_> :)
[03:29] <t17mh> vinic_: No need to reboot :)
[03:29] <t17mh> ~s/Factor_Dee/Fator_Dee
[03:30] <Fator_Dee> btw
[03:30] <ubuntu_user> hello
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> anyone know what could couse XFree86 to hog up all the resources of the computer
[03:31] <Fator_Dee> that happened just now and thats why I had to ssh to it from another computer to restart the X
[03:32] <vinic_> no...
[03:32] <BrettMeister> Trying to dual OS my single hd.  PartionMagic seemed to work okay.  When it came time to reboot it stopped due to Error 27, Cannot lock drive.  Any ideas about this?  Documentation for PM doesn't help.
[03:32] <ubuntu_user> how i use HAL with fluxbox??
[03:33] <Brikkah> i have just installed ubuntu, but when i try to setup my connection with "sudo pppoeconf" the computer freezes.. what to do ??
[03:34] <Fator_Dee> and now my panels just died...
[03:34] <Fator_Dee> this is not my day...
[03:35] <ubuntu_user> how i use HAL with fluxbox??
[03:35] <Fator_Dee> "nautilus --check" won't give any output
[03:36] <edulix> now I have FreeNX working !
[03:36] <edulix> I mean it connects
[03:36] <edulix> but, I see nothing. gnome doesn't start
[03:36] <edulix> then the problem is that it's not slick enough to start it, and I should tell himp to execute a custom command
[03:36] <edulix> which one ?
[03:39] <ubuntu_user> i need to get HAL working with fluxbox, but i not know the deamon that gnome runs when it start, it is any command or gnome HAL support is integred with gnome-desktop???
[03:41] <sjoerd> ubuntu_user: gnome-volume-manager
[03:42] <ubuntu_user> tanks sjoerd
[03:46] <vinic_> hi people! I can't get any midi files to be played... seems like I don't have a /dev/sequencer running whereas i know it works under Windows. Anyone can help?
[03:48] <cmg> i just installed Ubuntu warty (it rocks!)
[03:48] <vinic_> hehe
[03:48] <cmg> can someone tell me how to run a telnet daemon?
[03:48] <Fator_Dee> it rocks when it works properly :-(
[03:48] <etorix> heh .. yeah
[03:49] <cmg> im aware of telnet vulnerabilities and that i should ssh, but i need to install telnetd.. how do i do that?
[03:49] <wood1> Can I update Debian 3.0 to Ubuntu ?
[03:50] <spacey`stage> cmg just install the server?
[03:50] <spacey`stage> apt-cache search telnetd
[03:50] <cmg> spacey.. how/where do i get it? (sorry if im retarded)
[03:50] <spacey`stage> cmg its the same as installing other software
[03:50] <cmg> i cant find it in the repository though
[03:51] <spacey`stage> maybe its in universe
[03:51] <cmg> apt-cache search telnetd returns nothing
[03:51] <spacey`stage> search in the wiki on universe
[03:51] <spacey`stage> to add repository
[03:51] <Kamion>    telnetd |    0.17-24 | warty/universe | amd64, i386, powerpc
[03:51] <Kamion> there's also telnetd-ssl
[03:52] <cmg> kamion.. how do i get telnetd?
[03:52] <Kamion> cmg: do what spacey`stage said, there's documentation on universe on the website/wiki
[03:52] <cmg> whats universe?
[03:52] <cmg> <-- slow
[03:52] <Kamion> please see the website
[03:52] <cmg> the ubuntu site?
[03:53] <Kamion> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[03:53] <cmg> ahh ok.. thanks!
[03:53] <Kamion> (unsupported software, basically)
[03:54] <Fator_Dee> so no one has any insight on why my nautilus, desktop and panels stopped cooperating with me?
[03:55] <spacey`stage> cmg you should check out the wiki search on the website, really might come in handy
[03:56] <cmg> spacey, kamion.. i figured out the universe thing.. thanks guys!
[03:56] <spacey`stage> np
[03:56] <spacey`stage> its your first step ;)
[03:56] <cmg> yup ;)
[03:56] <cmg> i have one more question if ya don't mind
[03:57] <cmg> i installed Apache.. i want to run it under inetd.. how do i do that? :)
[03:57] <edulix> hey!
[03:57] <edulix> which is the command to start gnome?
[03:58] <cmg> actually.. i just figured out the Apache thing.. thanks anyway.. bye
[04:01] <Fator_Dee> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WorkspaceSwitcherApplet".
[04:01] <Fator_Dee> Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_9/prefs;background=none:;orient=up;size=small;locked_down=false
[04:01] <Fator_Dee> even more problems...
[04:02] <sdsds> hi, could someone help me about grub or lilo installation?
[04:04] <housetier> I know more about lilo than grub
[04:06] <sdsds> i'm calling you in pvt
[04:06] <housetier> don't be ashamed to ask here :)
[04:06] <vinic_> sdsds : go on
[04:06] <sdsds> ah ok
[04:06] <housetier> that way more people can help you
[04:07] <sdsds> i've run fidsk /MBR
[04:07] <sdsds> for some problem
[04:07] <sdsds> but I was
[04:07] <sdsds> I believe that using ubuntu installation disk
[04:08] <sdsds> i could re-install grub
[04:08] <micolous> sdsds, sudo grub-install /dev/hda  will reinstall the grub MBR
[04:08] <sdsds> but i can't use ubuntu
[04:08] <vinic_> sdsds : Have you got a rescue CD
[04:08] <micolous> ah.
[04:08] <sdsds> no vinic-
[04:08] <sdsds> that's the problem
[04:08] <vinic_> sdsds : or another distro CD
[04:09] <micolous> sdsds, go grab a copy of the gentoo minimal livecd
[04:09] <sdsds> i tried using
[04:09] <sdsds> mepis
[04:09] <micolous> it's *fantastic* for fixing the kinda stuff.
[04:09] <micolous> *this
[04:09] <sdsds> but it's very unusual
[04:10] <sdsds> because when i choose
[04:10] <sdsds> grub or lilo installation
[04:10] <vinic_> sdsds : is there a rescue mode in mepis?
[04:10] <sdsds> the program start asking me edit th partition table
[04:10] <sdsds> with ubuntu
[04:11] <sdsds> mepis is a live cd with some "desktop" utilities but when I' tried to ask
[04:11] <sdsds> to set a new lilo configuration
[04:12] <vinic_> sdsds : so you've got a console, right?
[04:12] <keert-jan> can someone help me?
[04:12] <sdsds> yes I have
[04:12] <keert-jan> with my wireless MSI usb stick?
[04:12] <keert-jan> on ubuntu
[04:12] <vinic_> ok, I did it yesterday
[04:12] <vinic_> so i can help you
[04:12] <vinic_> ;)
[04:12] <keert-jan> ok
[04:12] <keert-jan> well
[04:12] <sdsds> i'm lucky :D
[04:12] <keert-jan> i have installed ubuntu
[04:12] <vinic_> yep
[04:12] <keert-jan> and in the device manager, the usb msi wireless device is listed
[04:13] <keert-jan> but when i want to install a new wireless device in the network screen
[04:13] <keert-jan> there are no wireless devices in the pull down menu
[04:13] <keert-jan> understand?
[04:13] <keert-jan> (im dutch)
[04:13] <micolous> keert-jan, do youu know what chipset the device is?  like atmel, prism...?
[04:14] <keert-jan> they said it was a prism chipset...
[04:14] <keert-jan> i don't know if that is right..
[04:14] <micolous> install "linux-wlan-ng
[04:14] <keert-jan> where can i find that?
[04:14] <cmg> how do i get apache to start when i boot my system?
[04:14] <micolous> open up synaptic package manager, undder system settings
[04:14] <keert-jan> micolous , where can i find thatr
[04:15] <keert-jan> ok
[04:15] <lamont> cmg: if it is installed, it should start... It's not there by default - use synaptic to add it.
[04:15] <keert-jan> ok, i am there now micoulous
[04:16] <micolous> keert-jan, then press the "search" button, and search for linux-wlan-ng, click on the square next to it and mark it for installation
[04:16] <etorix>  cmg .. summink like etc/init.d/apache defaults
[04:16] <cmg> oops. i think i didnt install it all
[04:16] <micolous> keert-jan, then press "apply" and ok that
[04:16] <cmg> do i need apache-common and apache2?
[04:17] <etorix> i think you should google apache slightly ..
[04:17] <keert-jan> he can't find something..
[04:17] <etorix> since you are enabling a server here ..
[04:17] <cmg> i just spent 15 mins googling apache.. basically all i can find are directions for 1.3 (which are different), and then a bunch of arguments over whether to run it standalone or under inetd
[04:18] <etorix> im sure theres stuff on the ubuntu wiki
[04:18] <etorix> also look on fif.org
[04:18] <etorix> fifi.org
[04:19] <cmg> ahh i didnt have it all installed.. got it working.. thanks!
[04:20] <spikeb> lol
[04:22] <lamont> cmg: if it's a network daemon, it's probably not installed.
[04:22] <lamont> cmg: generally speaking, that is.
[04:23] <wood1> How do I change my IP Address from the bash prompt ?
[04:24] <wood1> I need desperate help
[04:24] <micolous> wood1, sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip address>
[04:24] <micolous> where eth0 is the network card that you want the IP changed for
[04:24] <etorix> hmm .. i have a dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to  error
[04:24] <orangepeel> hi every1
[04:25] <etorix> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):
[04:26] <wood1> thanks guys
[04:26] <etorix> on this 64-bit hory i have lib lib32 lib64 dirs
[04:26] <orangepeel> can someone tell me how to use two video cards to run two monitors (with the same display) in ubuntu-warty?
[04:26] <orangepeel> i have xinerama enabled, and everything almost works
[04:27] <orangepeel> however, my second (smaller) screen is stretched horribly
[04:27] <etorix> nvidia?
[04:27] <orangepeel> nvidia is primary agp card and other card is a pci matrox millenium
[04:28] <etorix> it sould be possible still
[04:28] <orangepeel> yeah its pretty much working, but as i say the second screen is stretched
[04:29] <wood1> How do I change the Netmask IP Address and the gate IP Address
[04:29] <wood1> from the bash shell ?
[04:29] <orangepeel> here is my XF86Config: http://www.aliross.co.uk/xconf/XF86Config-4
[04:29] <orangepeel> my second monitor is a 17" and my primary monitor is 22"
[04:30] <wood1> How do I change the Gateway IP Address from the bash shell ?
[04:30] <wood1> and also the Network Mask ?
[04:30] <tsw> wood1: edit /etc/network/interfaces and say ifupdown eth0
[04:30] <orangepeel> wood1: route add default gw <ip>
[04:30] <etorix> so its the matrox thats stretching
[04:30] <orangepeel> yes etorix
[04:30] <scizzo> wood1: ok...I think you only need to ask ones.. :P
[04:31] <wood1> thanks, orangepeel
[04:34] <Walcky> hi all
[04:34] <vinic_> hi !
[04:35] <Capri> hello, can someone tell me how I can build the Ubuntu linux-image kernel from the linux-source? I've used the same config and hal ist reporting: Your kernel does not support capabilities; some features will not be available
[04:35] <Capri> What I've missed?
[04:36] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[04:36] <da_bon_bon> while installing i mistakedly typer ser name as 'rohadhruva' instead of 'rohandhruva' now what do i do?]
[04:37] <Gwildor|Work> tahs a long and horrid name to type, at every log in...........
[04:37] <spikeb> da_bon_bon, add another user with the name spelled correctly
[04:37] <spikeb> da_bon_bon, then remove the old user
[04:37] <da_bon_bon> spikeb, in which group?
[04:37] <Gwildor|Work> spikeb, will that new user have sudo privleges?
[04:38] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work, yes i agree...
[04:38] <spikeb> da_bon_bon, users, and wheel. also edit the sudoers file and correct the spelling.
[04:38] <Gwildor|Work> :)
[04:38] <Walcky> My gnome-panel always freeze on my two computers (HOARY). Does anybody have a idea ?
[04:38] <etorix> orangepeel:
[04:38] <etorix> dang
[04:38] <da_bon_bon> spikeb, thers also a group called 'rohadhruva' ...
[04:39] <bur[n] er> Walcky: don't u?  do some troubleshooting... file a bug report :)
[04:39] <bur[n] er> check existing bug reports for similar problems
[04:39] <spikeb> bbl have ot start my day
[04:39] <spikeb> sorry to run
[04:39] <da_bon_bon> spikeb, also, what about sudo previleges?
[04:40] <llun_ved> daoed anyone here have USB flashdrive problems
[04:40] <wood1> what is the command to install GNOME Desktop from the bash shell: ??
[04:41] <etorix> apt-get install gnome*     would get you the kitchen sink
[04:42] <da_bon_bon> while installing i mistakedly typer ser name as 'rohadhruva' instead of 'rohandhruva' now what do i do?]
[04:43] <etorix> wood1:  can u run synaptic?
[04:43] <etorix>  a search for gnome will give ..
[04:44] <llun_ved> no USB flashdrive problems damn
[04:44] <martin_> erm.. ive downloaded and installed bittornado through synapt.. and i cant seem to find it now... what do i do to search for it?
[04:45] <etorix> try typing its name
[04:46] <martin_> well i tried bt, bittorent, bittornado and bittornado-gui, it just says command not found
[04:46] <etorix> man it
[04:47] <tsw> martin_: btdownloadgui
[04:47] <tsw> and bt*
[04:48] <martin_> tsw, thanks man :)
[04:48] <tsw> martin_: tabulator is your friend :D
[04:48] <siretart> has somebody a pointer how to make a initrd suitable for / on evms?
[04:48] <martin_> tsw, how can i know these things?
[04:49] <tsw> martin_: experience.. I dont know any good shortcut to knowledge :)
[04:50] <martin_> tsw: i mean, there must be a way to know the command of a program?
[04:50] <tsw> martin_: but try typing the beginning of a command like btdo and then pressing tabulator twice on shell. it should give you a list of all commands starting with btdo
[04:50] <tsw> or if there is only one option it completes it
[04:51] <tsw> same goes with folders and files
[04:51] <michel_v> hello
[04:51] <martin_> cool tsw..
[04:51] <afonit> does anyone know the name of the Novell application for thumbnailing images, similar to gthumb?
[04:51] <michel_v> anyone working on Rosetta? it would be nice to add 'Corsican' in the list dubbed 'Languages in France'
[04:51] <michel_v> I was rather stumped not to find it there :p
[04:52] <tsw> martin_: so I started with only b (I knew it was installed on my brothers machine) and quikly read the list and saw bt and so on..
[04:53] <kipod> does any one knows how i can put my HDD in the Computer Folder ?
[04:53] <martin_> cool tsw, thanks :)
[04:55] <martin_> tsw: do you happen to know anything about running quake3 on linux?
[04:55] <martin_> (quake 3 arena, the computer game)
[04:55] <tsw> martin_: not really.. havent played anything for a long time :)
[04:56] <Gwildor|Work> martin_, i think you have to get the game data form the actual CD..........but i am not 100% sure of that
[04:56] <kipod> martin_,  i have a problem with it too evry time i try to run it my X restarted ....
[04:56] <tsw> martin_: tried doom when it was cool :)
[04:56] <etorix> iverun q3a, ut2k4,doom3 .. but not on ubuntu
[04:56] <martin_> tsw, heh
[04:56] <etorix> and my nvidia-glx is busted
[04:57] <Riddell> afonit: konqueror, gwenview
[04:57] <afonit> yes, but novell has one that is in an alpha stage, it looked really cool, but I cannot find it anywhere
[04:57] <martin_> Gwildor|Work, where can i get more info about that?
[04:57] <afonit> I don't recall the name
[04:58] <Gwildor|Work> martin_, googel is the best answer i can give you...i have no idea, try "quake3 linux client"
[04:58] <afonit> riddell: it looked alot like picasa from google
[04:58] <etorix> linux-militia is a good place to start
[04:58] <martin_> Gwildor|Work, thanks
[04:58] <Gwildor|Work> np :)
[05:00] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[05:03] <poik007> <.< I have a problem with installing ubuntu <.<
[05:03] <Gwildor|Work> hi
[05:03] <Gwildor|Work> shoot
[05:03] <poik007> it says it can't find my CD-ROM drive
[05:03] <poik007> I don't have any, I just have 2 dvd-drives
[05:04] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work, noto get help, but to help
[05:04] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work, i remedied the earler prob.
[05:04] <Gwildor|Work> kk :)
[05:04] <Gwildor|Work> glad you fixed it
[05:05] <micolous> poik007, remove all other disks in the drive, and maybe try the other CD drive?
[05:05] <poik007> the other drive is also a DVD
[05:05] <Pozac> doesnt matter
[05:05] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, you have sudo-ing orivleges too?
[05:05] <da_bon_bon> POLL: Which linux distro do u use?
[05:05] <da_bon_bon> hey anyone hear? i am having conn. problems, so please reply..
[05:05] <Pozac> reply :)
[05:06] <poik007> oh, the problem is that my computer doesn't want to boot to the other drive <,<
[05:06] <Gwildor|Work> ububntu........gong pure debian on and old alppy soon
[05:06] <Gwildor|Work> ububntu........going pure debian on and old lappy soon
[05:07] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work: yes i do have sudo previleges, but only after editing sudoers using visudo
[05:07] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, good....was just checking :)
[05:07] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work: np
[05:08] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: why is the poll misplaced? i bet atleast some users here are using FC
[05:08] <Gwildor|Work> i think most ppl here hate FC
[05:08] <Gwildor|Work> idk though
[05:09] <vinic_> Pb: I can't get any midi files to be played... seems like I don't have a /dev/sequencer running whereas i know it works under Windows. Anyone can help?
[05:09] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work: idk??
[05:09] <Gwildor|Work> i dont know
[05:09] <da_bon_bon> how do i install xmms in ubuntu?
[05:10] <vinic_> da_bon_bon : use synaptic
[05:10] <Gwildor|Work> sudo apt-get isntall xmms
[05:10] <vinic_> both will do the job! :)
[05:10] <da_bon_bon> vinic_: i am new to it. what command?
[05:10] <kipod> Gwildor|Work, http://www.myjavaserver.com/~mike001/ubuntu/ here try this one
[05:10] <Gwildor|Work> sudo apt-get isntall xmms
[05:11] <vinic_> da_bon_bon : Synaptic is the packet manager
[05:11] <Gwildor|Work> kipod, i dont need that...........
[05:11] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, here try this      http://www.myjavaserver.com/~mike001/ubuntu/
[05:11] <Gwildor|Work> kipod, thnx though :)
[05:11] <da_bon_bon> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:11] <da_bon_bon> error ^^^^
[05:12] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, add universe and multiverse.....i think its in one of those
[05:12] <Fator_Dee> universe
[05:12] <Gwildor|Work> search for  "restrictedformats" on the wiki
[05:12] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work: how?
[05:12] <Gwildor|Work> wait...
[05:12] <crimsun> occy: hmm, I don't believe you're supposed to run java_vm directly, but it's good practice to set $JAVA_HOME, to add $JAVA_HOME/bin to your $PATH, and to set $CLASSPATH as well
[05:12] <vinic_> da_bon_bon : you've got to add "universe repository" insynaptic
[05:12] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, open snaptic
[05:12] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[05:12] <Quest-Master> Do this in the terminal,.
[05:13] <Quest-Master> It's fast, and easy.
[05:13] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, beep is pretty good.........
[05:13] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, but you may want to add the universe and multiverse anyways
[05:13] <da_bon_bon> Gwildor|Work: which repo to add? many are under universe///
[05:14] <Quest-Master> No, no
[05:14] <Quest-Master> Just add it as a section
[05:14] <Gwildor|Work> in synaptic?
[05:14] <Gwildor|Work> Quest-Master, i gues you tell him, i have to afk for a min
[05:14] <Quest-Master> No problem.
[05:14] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Follow this guide exactly as it says so.
[05:15] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: which guide?
[05:15] <Quest-Master> In Synaptic, bring up the repositories window: Settings -> Repositories
[05:15] <Quest-Master> You will see two repositories of type deb with the URL http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu one of which is checked. Select one or the other, and see which one shows Section(s): universe
[05:15] <Quest-Master> (It is probably the second one.) Enable that one. Now do the same thing for the two repositories of type deb-src with the same URI given above. Click on OK.
[05:15] <Quest-Master> Now, still in Synaptic, click on Reload to update your local copy of the package database.
[05:15] <Quest-Master> Copied straight from the wiki. ;)
[05:16] <Quest-Master> Now, if you have trouble with that, ask me.
[05:17] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: the package list itself is 2MB?>?
[05:17] <Quest-Master> ?
[05:17] <Quest-Master> It might be
[05:17] <Quest-Master> That's fine though.
[05:19] <da_bon_bon> how do i install using apt-get ?
[05:19] <Quest-Master> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[05:19] <Quest-Master> Right in the terminal.
[05:19] <Quest-Master> ;)
[05:19] <Quest-Master> ALso.
[05:19] <Quest-Master> If you haven't done so already.
[05:19] <Quest-Master> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.3414506543
[05:19] <Gwildor|Work> thnx Quest-Master , im back now..................sorry
[05:20] <Quest-Master> Yup.
[05:20] <Quest-Master> I think he's good now.
[05:20] <garcia79> hi to all. how can I read RSS in ubuntu?. Is there some plugin for evolution?
[05:21] <Riddell> garcia79: akregator, numberous gnome tools are available as well
[05:21] <garcia79> Riddel: thank you...bye
[05:24] <da_bon_bon> in live CD, when i click on 'Computer" and "disks" my mounted windows partitions also appear. how do i do that in ubuntu install?
[05:24] <wood1> Will apt-get install ubuntu-desktop install the default GNOME display manager
[05:25] <crimsun> wood1: yes
[05:26] <crimsun> % apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop|grep gdm
[05:26] <wood1> Crimsun, Will firefox be installed?
[05:26] <wood1> I have already installed x-server
[05:26] <crimsun> run the command I just showed but substitute mozilla-firefox for gdm
[05:27] <crimsun> (don't paste here!)
[05:27] <wood1> You see, I just installed the Ubuntu Base system with only the Bash shell
[05:27] <Ng> does the install CD just include the packages installed by the base installer? or does it include packages for things like build-essential too?
[05:27] <da_bon_bon> how do i change the access permissions of a folder?
[05:27] <wood1> So ubuntu-desktop installs OpenOffice too ?
[05:27] <da_bon_bon> how do i change the access permissions of a folder?
[05:27] <crimsun> wood1: yes.
[05:27] <Quest-Master> Ng: Right click. Go to the tab called Permissions.
[05:27] <Quest-Master> Ack.
[05:27] <Quest-Master> I meant da_bon_bon
[05:27] <Quest-Master> Sorry :x
[05:27] <Quest-Master> Yeah.
[05:27] <Quest-Master> That's how you do it.
[05:28] <Quest-Master> Change the permissions in that tab.
[05:28] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: the folder /mnt/hdc6 is owned by root. how do i modify that fromm command line?
[05:28] <Quest-Master> sudo nautilus
[05:28] <Quest-Master> Then edit the permissions from there.
[05:28] <crimsun> Ng: it installs 'ubuntu-desktop' along with all its dependencies. 'build-essential' is an optional package and thus not installed by default.
[05:30] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: when i clik on "write" in others, it gets automatically unchkecked...
[05:30] <Ng> crimsun: so it won't be on the CD either?
[05:30] <Fator_Tee> *sigh* it feels like I am using wIndOzE again, a little reboot and all the problems have gone away... *scratches head*
[05:31] <Ng> crimsun: I don't have one to hand and someone is asking me if they can install gcc from the CD or if they need to download it ;)
[05:31] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: What is inside hd6?
[05:31] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: actually, i want to make the "/mnt/hdc6" folder avaialble to "rohandhruva" - i cant open any folder or files in there...
[05:31] <crimsun> Ng: I'm fairly certain gcc* are on the CD, but don't take my word for it.
[05:31] <crimsun> Ng: you can look on your CD.
[05:31] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Did you manually mount hd6?
[05:32] <Quest-Master> Through the command-line, I mean
[05:32] <Ng> crimsun: "I don't have one to hand" ;p
[05:32] <Ng> crimsun: but thanks anyway :)
[05:32] <drspin> the current LiveCD will not boot in VMWARE -- is this a known issue?
[05:32] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: yes
[05:32] <drspin> rather - is it an issue at all?
[05:32] <crimsun> err, it booted for me
[05:32] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Do this; it's much easier.
[05:32] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: what?
[05:32] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo mnt /dev/nameofpartition /home/yourusername/hd6
[05:33] <Quest-Master> Of course, replace nameofpartition with the actual name, and yourusername with your username.
[05:33] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: i dont mount it in /mnt/hdc6?
[05:33] <Quest-Master> Some people do, but this is MUCH easier, and what I do.
[05:33] <Quest-Master> It causes a lot less confusion.
[05:34] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: isnt it even better to use the "/etc/fstab" file?
[05:34] <Quest-Master> And, in your case, "rohandhruva" will have automatic permission to it when mounted.
[05:34] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: If you wish, yes.
[05:34] <Quest-Master> The fstab makes everything automatic.
[05:34] <Quest-Master> Want to do that instead?
[05:34] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: yes
[05:34] <Quest-Master> It's what I do.. lot less work.
[05:34] <Quest-Master> Ok.
[05:34] <Quest-Master> sudo gedit
[05:35] <Quest-Master> Open /etc/fstab
[05:35] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: but will it have proper permissins?
[05:35] <Quest-Master> Yes.
[05:35] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: sudo gedit asks for password.
[05:35] <Quest-Master> Type in your sudo password.
[05:35] <Gwildor|Work> sudo give it proper permissions........always
[05:36] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: whats a sudo password?
[05:36] <Quest-Master> The password for the super user.
[05:36] <Quest-Master> su.
[05:36] <drspin> root
[05:36] <Quest-Master> You might've not set it yet.
[05:36] <Quest-Master> Just click enter and see what happens.
[05:36] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: oh it owrks if i type in my own password...
[05:36] <Quest-Master> Ok.
[05:36] <Quest-Master> Good.
[05:36] <Quest-Master> Now, open up fstab in /etc/
[05:36] <Gwildor|Work> da_bon_bon, yeah, there is no "root" account, you just sudo to root privleges using your user pass
[05:37] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Make a directory inside your home folder called "windows" or whatever.
[05:37] <Quest-Master> Tell me once you've got all of that done.
[05:37] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: and then?
[05:37] <Quest-Master> Did you make the directory?
[05:37] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: i still dont mount in /mnt ?
[05:37] <Quest-Master> And open up fstab?
[05:37] <Quest-Master> No.
[05:38] <Quest-Master> At the end of your fstab file, type this in.
[05:38] <hardkaare> Hey, has ubuntu the feature in gnome that make the user able to share via samba just be rightclicking and choose share?
[05:38] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: but i am more used to /mnt.... it wont have rite permissions for mme?
[05:38] <Quest-Master> /dev/hda6       /home/rohandhruva/windows    vfat    umask=000       0       0
[05:39] <Quest-Master> This is easier, trust me. ;) Less problems for a lot of people.
[05:39] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: thanks. i will try and reboot
[05:39] <Quest-Master> You don't have to reboot
[05:39] <drspin> reboot?
[05:39] <Quest-Master> Just go to the terminal
[05:39] <Quest-Master> And type this in.
[05:39] <Quest-Master> sudo mount -a
[05:39] <Quest-Master> It'll do all of the fstab stuff for you without rebooting.
[05:40] <xiximkopp> did anybody of get coaster working in hoary?
[05:41] <xiximkopp> ^without of...
[05:42] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: how do i add shortcuts to all these mounted partitions in my "Disks" jkust like in live CD?
[05:42] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: how do i add shortcuts to all these mounted partitions in my "Disks" jkust like in live CD?
[05:42] <Quest-Master> Just create a launcher or a symlink.
[05:43] <Quest-Master> Right-click in desktop -> Create Launcher
[05:43] <Quest-Master> And point to the folder which your disks are mounted to.
[05:44] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, when you want them in my computer, add 'user' as an option in /etc/fstab
[05:44] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: ok. and they will appear in "my computer"?
[05:44] <Quest-Master> umask=000 allows anyone to write, read, and execute from it though.
[05:44] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, yes
[05:44] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, and on your desktop
[05:44] <Quest-Master> No need for user, besides it showing up in the my computer
[05:45] <Quest-Master> You can just create the launchers on the desktop as I showed you
[05:45] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: u a ubuntu guru or something :)
[05:45] <Quest-Master> Hehe, not really
[05:46] <Quest-Master> I'm an Ubuntu lover though. <3
[05:46] <xiximkopp> so nobody tried coaster in here??
[05:46] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: ur method gives me icons in "my computer" and on "desktop" ???
[05:46] <Quest-Master> I heard it's maturing pretty well
[05:47] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Just on the desktop. But you can copy and paste it into My Computer as well I believe.
[05:47] <Quest-Master> It's not very heard to create launchers, da_bon_bon
[05:47] <hardkaare> Can anyone make me a screenshot of the rightclik and share a folder form me please?
[05:47] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: In Nautilus?
[05:47] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: ok...
[05:47] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, yes
[05:48] <xiximkopp> Quest-Master, no you cant make paste in computer...
[05:48] <Quest-Master> Ah.
[05:48] <Quest-Master> I see.
[05:48] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: works very well. thanks.
[05:48] <Quest-Master> :)
[05:48] <afonit> Quest-Master: since you seem on a roll, I was wondering, do you know why this would hapen,  I do an smbmount of our server drive, browse to a folder, the finle names are asfq~tpt.eps, but on my mac when I browse to the same folder and file, it is called A13423-plumbers.eps?
[05:48] <xiximkopp> it uses hal for getting the informations
[05:48] <Quest-Master> lol, reading through your problem now afonit.
[05:49] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, I want to show a friend that it can be dont that way in ubuntu
[05:49] <sri> greetings
[05:49] <sri> has anybody gotten mono working on hoary?
[05:49] <afonit> I went to the nautilus irc, they had no idea
[05:49] <sri> mine seems totally broken.
[05:49] <hardkaare> don
[05:49] <crimsun> sri: mine works fine, but I have mixed sources.
[05:49] <sri> I can't install it at all
[05:49] <Quest-Master> afonit: That's the weirdest thing I've heard in a while. x_x
[05:49] <crimsun> sri: expected.
[05:49] <crimsun> sri: mono-assemblies* have not yet been updated
[05:49] <sri> crimsun: the problem maybe that I'm using ohter sources, and now there is some package confusion
[05:49] <afonit> quest-master: ok, thanks, I will keep on researching
[05:49] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: where do i add the "user" option?
[05:50] <Quest-Master> afonit: What kind of filesystem is the server on?
[05:50] <sri> crimsun: oh okay. t hat kind of sucks, since I rely on tomboy
[05:50] <afonit> os x
[05:50] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, Would you do that?
[05:50] <afonit> quest-master: osx
[05:50] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: where do i add the "user" option?
[05:50] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, type: 'sudo nano /etc/fstab' in a terminal
[05:50] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Just add a comma after the umask=000 and then add it
[05:50] <sri> crimsun: any idea when they will get mono-assemblies updated?
[05:50] <crimsun> sri: no ETA
[05:50] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: ok
[05:51] <afonit> that is, whatever one os x uses,
[05:51] <Quest-Master> sudo gedit, and make where it says umask=000 into umask=000, user
[05:51] <sri> also, does anybody have problems with flash cards not showing up when you insert into the desktop
[05:51] <crimsun> sri: and with it being holidays et al., I wouldn't hold my breath
[05:51] <Quest-Master> Hm.
[05:51] <sri> the flashcard gets mounted but no icon shows up in GNOME
[05:51] <sri> crimsun: yeah, thats fine.
[05:51] <Quest-Master> afonit: It might be a conflict with the filesystems I believe.
[05:51] <sri> crimsun: when I signed up for hoary, I knew that it'll be like this.
[05:51] <crimsun> sri: good.
[05:51] <sri> crimsun: I can always compile my own mono if I want it badly enough.
[05:51] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: and then again mount -a?
[05:51] <hardkaare> will anyone take a screenshot for me please, about how gnome can share a folder in ubuntu?
[05:51] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, then you see your mounts... add user to the ones you wish to see in my computer...
[05:51] <Quest-Master> sudo mount -a
[05:51] <Quest-Master> Yup.
[05:52] <crimsun> sri: if you do that, don't install any mono-based packages from ubuntu or debian :)
[05:52] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: Yeah.
[05:52] <Quest-Master> One second.
[05:52] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp, Quest-Master: thank you both.... i am grateful
[05:52] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: You just want a screen of the permissions tab right?
[05:52] <sri> crimsun: heh.  well I'm using jhbuild, so I have a cvs version of gnome as well
[05:52] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Glad I could help. :)
[05:52] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: Am I correct?
[05:52] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad
[05:52] <crimsun> sri: in a chroot?
[05:52] <sri> crimsun: I haven't had any issues, and I use a seperate account to load cvs gnome.
[05:52] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, yes just so I can se it can be done
[05:52] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad
[05:52] <crimsun> sri: ah.
[05:52] <sri> crimsun: no, I use a seperate account and hten use xnest
[05:53] <crimsun> sri: well sure, garnome and jhbuild are lots of fun. :)
[05:53] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Join #flood and paste your fstab there.
[05:53] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, what do you mean? bad?
[05:53] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: i got that message
[05:53] <sri> crimsun: depending. :-)  I'm no longer using garnome, and using ubuntu hoary instead.
[05:53] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Show me your fstab in #flood
[05:53] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: Sure. One second.
[05:53] <xiximkopp> then paste ur line in here
[05:53] <sri> crimsun: but it's good to know that the problem is known.
[05:54] <sri> crimsun: but kind of bad timing since I wante dto show my brohter .NET when he was visiting here. oh well.
[05:54] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, such a screenshot is missing from ubuntus offical site :-)
[05:54] <crimsun> sri: yep. Granted, I avoid it because I pin to sid and only pull from hoary as necessary.
[05:54] <Quest-Master> Yeah, I'll get it for you and then upload it hardkaare
[05:54] <Quest-Master> Give me a minute
[05:54] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, Thx you verry much
[05:54] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: pasted
[05:55] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: sorry got disconn please type again any solution...
[05:55] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Yeah, I'm looking
[05:55] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: can u please look too?
[05:55] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Don't worry about it.
[05:56] <Quest-Master> It's only a warning.
[05:56] <Quest-Master> If it works, it's fine.
[05:56] <anir> hello guys..
[05:57] <anir> how are you doing?
[05:57] <anir> hi to all
[05:57] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: but i dont get icons on desktop or on disks...
[05:58] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, where's your line???
[05:58] <Quest-Master> :o?
[05:58] <Quest-Master> xiximopp: #flood
[05:58] <anir> guys can anyone tell me is it possible to access my other drives from linux???
[05:58] <Quest-Master> anir: Yes
[05:58] <Quest-Master> I just explained it.. I'll explain it again for you though, no problem.
[05:58] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: now everything works, expect that hdc6 doesnt get mounted...
[05:58] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, would you pm a link to me, I have to go for a hour
[05:58] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, could you paste it again?
[05:58] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master now everything works, expect that hdc6 doesnt get mounted...
[05:58] <Quest-Master> Ok
[05:58] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: sure
[05:58] <anir> Quest-Master: i have windows installed in the other drive and it is FAT32
[05:59] <Quest-Master> I will do hardkaare
[05:59] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, thx
[05:59] <Quest-Master> Ok anir
[05:59] <Quest-Master> Do this
[05:59] <Quest-Master> sudo gedit
[05:59] <sri> crimsun: intersting you do that.
[05:59] <Quest-Master> anir: Open up /etc/fstab
[05:59] <afonit> does anybody know where to get the mplayer plugin for firefox, I did not see it on the firefox plugins website
[05:59] <Quest-Master> anir: Tell me once you are there
[05:59] <crimsun> sri: heh, it's not "bleeding edge" until stuff breaks daily :)
[05:59] <anir> Quest-Master: okay
[05:59] <Quest-Master> afonit: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[05:59] <Quest-Master> anir: Add this line to the end of your fstab
[05:59] <afonit> and that works with firefox?
[05:59] <afonit> ok
[06:00] <Quest-Master> anir: /dev/hda#       /home/yourusernamehere/windows    vfat    umask=000,user       0       0
[06:00] <Quest-Master> Replace # with the number your partition is on
[06:00] <pisuke> I find the vlc plugin much better than mplayer
[06:00] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp_, Quest-Master: i will brb after rebooting, please wait?
[06:00] <Quest-Master> And make a directory inside your home directory called windows
[06:00] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Sure
[06:00] <Quest-Master> anir: Replace yourusernamehere with your username on Ubuntu
[06:00] <Quest-Master> Ok?
[06:01] <sri> crimsun: indeed :)
[06:01] <Quest-Master> anir: Still there? ;)
[06:01] <kipod> xiximkopp,  u mean like this ? /dev/hdb7       /media/Programs vfat    rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000,user    0     0
[06:01] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp_, Quest-Master: i will brb after rebooting, please wait?
[06:02] <xiximkopp> kipod, yes
[06:02] <kipod> thanks
[06:02] <anir> Quest-Master: cant find fstab
[06:02] <kipod> xiximkopp,  my bad as i roll down i sow u ansered the same question
[06:02] <llun_ved> hello guys. the only thing that is preventing me from installing Ubuntu onto this machine is the USB flashdrive issue.
[06:02] <kipod> xiximkopp, thank u very much
[06:02] <Quest-Master> anir: Go to the terminal
[06:02] <Quest-Master> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:03] <xiximkopp> kipod, no problem
[06:03] <afonit> pisuke: thanks for that
[06:03] <Quest-Master> Did it work anir?
[06:03] <kipod> xiximkopp, may b u khow can i apply it without rebooting   ?
[06:03] <Quest-Master> sudo mount -a, kipod
[06:04] <tobidope> somebody tried toinstall ubuntu on a toshiba satellite m30x?
[06:04] <Quest-Master> Just type that in the terminal
[06:04] <kipod> Quest-Master, thanks
[06:04] <Quest-Master> No problem
[06:04] <afonit> tobidope, did you try linuxlaptops.com/org or whatever?
[06:04] <Quest-Master> afonit: If the apt-get mozilla-mplayer doesn't work (it didn't work for me), you can build it from source (which did work for me)
[06:05] <tobidope> afonit: yes,and it works withpure debian
[06:05] <anir> sudo gedit /etc/fstab: got it
[06:05] <afonit> yes, I was downloading that now quest-master ;)
[06:05] <Quest-Master> :)
[06:05] <afonit> tobidope, ahhh, ic
[06:05] <anir> Quest-Master: got it
[06:05] <Quest-Master> anir: Add that line at the end I showed you
[06:05] <Quest-Master> Then
[06:05] <Quest-Master> Replace the values I told you to replace
[06:05] <Quest-Master> And finally go to the terminal
[06:05] <kipod> hum but i still can't c the HDD on my computer folder =\
[06:05] <tobidope> but i get an error when it comesto theinstallation of extra packets
[06:05] <Quest-Master> And type in sudo mount -a
[06:05] <anir> Quest-Master: i did
[06:05] <Quest-Master> Ok
[06:06] <Quest-Master> sudo mount -a?
[06:06] <kipod> Quest-Master, yeah
[06:06] <anir> Quest-Master: should i type sudo mount-a???
[06:06] <Superman> how do i install warty?
[06:06] <Quest-Master> kipod: show me the line you just added of fstab
[06:06] <Quest-Master> anir: Yes
[06:06] <Quest-Master> anir: Inside the terminal
[06:07] <tobidope> the installation process just stops. i don't know why this happens
[06:07] <anir> sudo mount -a?
[06:07] <xiximkopp> kipod, i can, without reboot, without remount...
[06:07] <Superman> how do i install warty
[06:07] <Quest-Master> kipod: It's probably a minor problem
[06:07] <Superman> ??????
[06:07] <goatboy> if it's already mounted `mount -a` won't work.
[06:07] <Quest-Master> Yes.
[06:07] <tobidope> i started  installation withlinux hw_detection/start_pcmcia=false vga=771
[06:07] <crimsun> Superman: you download the iso, burn iso to cd-r, boot from cd-r, follow installation menu, ...
[06:08] <anir> Quest-Master: yes i did
[06:08] <goatboy> use `sudo mount -o remount /dev/foo`
[06:08] <kipod> goatboy,  yeah  there is some tihngy in what u say
[06:08] <Quest-Master> anir: Can you see your drive in /home/yourusername/windows now?
[06:08] <Quest-Master> kipod: umount /dev/hd#
[06:08] <Quest-Master> replace hd# with your partition name
[06:08] <anir> Quest-Master: which command i have to type to see it?
[06:08] <Superman> crimsun: boot means just to run it right?
[06:08] <Quest-Master> anir: Just go to /home/yourusername/windows
[06:09] <Quest-Master> It should all be inside there
[06:09] <Superman> crimsun: and how about partioning my windows XP?
[06:09] <Quest-Master> Superman: Get Partition Magic.
[06:09] <Quest-Master> Superman: Or any other partitioning program.
[06:09] <Superman> Quest-Master: is it for free?
[06:09] <Quest-Master> Superman: Partition Magic isn't.
[06:09] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[06:09] <da_bon_bon> imb
[06:09] <Quest-Master> Hey da_bon_bon
[06:09] <Quest-Master> Did it work?
[06:09] <Superman> Quest-Master: what is?
[06:09] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: works like magic
[06:10] <da_bon_bon> xiximkopp: thanks
[06:10] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Yay :)
[06:10] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: thanks
[06:10] <xiximkopp> da_bon_bon, no problem
[06:10] <kipod> hum i think i will just reboot
[06:10] <kipod> brb
[06:10] <Quest-Master> Superman: How big is your hard drive?
[06:10] <kipod> thank u dudes
[06:10] <llun_ved> * cough *
[06:10] <Quest-Master> 40GB? 60GB? 120GB?
[06:10] <Quest-Master> See ya kipod.
[06:10] <anir> Quest-Master: nope.. do i have to reboot my sys??
[06:10] <da_bon_bon> how do i use winamp playinst .m3u in rhythmbox?
[06:11] <Superman> Quest-Master: my win 2000 is about 5GB and my xp is 80GB
[06:11] <llun_ved> ewwwwww
[06:11] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: open the playlist in rhythmbox.
[06:11] <Quest-Master> anir: sudo mount -o remount /dev/partitionnamehere
[06:11] <Quest-Master> Superman: Do they both cover your entire hard drive?
[06:11] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: doesnt work...
[06:11] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Use another media player
[06:11] <Superman> Quest-Master: i don't know, how would i find out?
[06:11] <Quest-Master> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[06:12] <llun_ved> ANyone here in #Ubuntu work on Ubuntu
[06:12] <Quest-Master> Superman: How big is your entire hard drive?
[06:12] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: like?
[06:12] <Superman> Quest-Master: 80GB
[06:12] <tobidope> sc/quit
[06:12] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[06:12] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: eh...works for me.
[06:12] <Quest-Master> Rhythmbox isn't that great IMO
[06:12] <Quest-Master> Beep is better :D
[06:13] <crimsun> I use as many music players as possible
[06:13] <anir> Quest-Master: it says cant find in etc/fstab or etc mtab
[06:13] <Superman> Quest-Master: what happens if i don't partion?
[06:13] <Quest-Master> Superman: Can you replace your Win2000 with Ubuntu?
[06:13] <crimsun> never know when someone might ask for help regarding application X or Y
[06:13] <Quest-Master> anir: That doesn't sound good.
[06:13] <Quest-Master> Reboot anir.
[06:13] <llun_ved> hello
[06:13] <Superman> Quest-Master: should i
[06:13] <Quest-Master> Tell me how it goes.
[06:13] <llun_ved> anyone
[06:13] <Quest-Master> Superman: If you don't want Win2000, yeah.
[06:13] <crimsun> llun_ved: yes, many do
[06:13] <anir> Quest-Master: hold on i will be  back okay
[06:13] <crimsun> llun_ved: why?
[06:13] <Quest-Master> llun_ved: I don't, I'd like to though :)
[06:14] <Quest-Master> Hey kipod
[06:14] <Quest-Master> Did it work?
[06:14] <da_bon_bon> id rather download XMMS.
[06:14] <Superman> Quest-Master: ya i guess
[06:14] <llun_ved> crimsun, heh, i have an issue with Ubuntu not being able to see my USB flash drive
[06:14] <kipod> thank u ppl it worked grate
[06:14] <anir> i typed  sudo mount -o remount /dev/c.. it gives the message
[06:14] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: XMMS is an old version of Beep.
[06:14] <Superman> Quest-Master: so i just download and burn it to a CD?
[06:14] <Quest-Master> Use Beep.
[06:14] <Quest-Master> kipod: Yay.
[06:14] <Quest-Master> Superman: Yes.
[06:14] <llun_ved> i have done all the fstab tricks
[06:14] <kipod> Superman,  do u have WInXP now?
[06:14] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: so install it using Synaptic, apt-get, or aptitude; use it.
[06:15] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player, trust me ;)
[06:15] <Superman> kipod: yup
[06:15] <crimsun> many plugins have not been ported to bmp yet
[06:15] <Superman> how good is ubuntu really
[06:15] <Quest-Master> crimsun: Most XMMS plugins work with bmp perfectly fine
[06:15] <kipod> Superman, then y don't ya repartion  with windows manager
[06:15] <kipod> ?
[06:16] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: how much MB is it?
[06:16] <Superman> kipod: how
[06:16] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: cant i download the .tar.gz ?
[06:16] <Quest-Master> Superman: Once you get Ubuntu working, you'll fall in love with it
[06:16] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: It's very small.
[06:16] <kipod> Superman,  just right click on My Computer > manage
[06:16] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: why would you download the source when it's already available to be installed from Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Superman> Quest-Master: what is the difference with gnoppix and ubuntu
[06:16] <Superman> k
[06:16] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: you would still need to compile the source after you downloaded it
[06:16] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: so if i use apt i wont download the sources ?
[06:17] <Quest-Master> Superman: Gnoppix is optimized as a Live CD
[06:17] <kipod> Superman,  then just make some room for UbuntuLinux  then in Ubuntu installtion u will have the option to partion it for linux native
[06:17] <Superman> kipod: then what?
[06:17] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Use apt. It's faster and easier.
[06:17] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: by default, no, you'll download and install the binaries and libraries.
[06:17] <kipod> sorry for my bad english
[06:17] <Quest-Master> Superman: Delete your Win2000 partition.
[06:17] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: apt gives an error about installing xmms
[06:17] <Quest-Master> Superman: Then, boot up the Ubuntu CD, and tell it to automatically repartition the free space.
[06:17] <Superman> kipod: what do i do when i click on manage?
[06:17] <Quest-Master> Superman: Very easy.
[06:17] <Superman> k
[06:17] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:18] <kipod> kipod,  yeah lieve some space on formated then on Ubuntu installtion u will have the option to format it as linux native
[06:18] <anir> hey i am back
[06:18] <anir> i cant see any change
[06:18] <kipod> Superman,  u just enter the disk management
[06:18] <Quest-Master> anir: Weird. :\
[06:19] <Quest-Master> anir: Does /home/yourusernamehere/windows exist?
[06:19] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: pls join #flood
[06:19] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: paste the error in #flood
[06:19] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: yup.
[06:19] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: pls join it
[06:19] <kipod> Superman,  there u will have the option to mount unmount format/delet partions
[06:19] <anir> Quest-Master: where did i suppose to create the windows folder?? home/username/... or home/windows??
[06:19] <Quest-Master> /home/username/windows, anir
[06:19] <unb> Where does "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" keep the configuration? I thought it was /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it is not created there.
[06:20] <anir> Quest-Master: yes i have done that..
[06:20] <anir> username is my user name right??
[06:20] <kipod> okay i got to get back to my HW on Thermo
[06:20] <kipod> thanks ppl for the help
[06:21] <Quest-Master> anir: And there's nothing inside it?
[06:21] <Quest-Master> Yes
[06:21] <Quest-Master> username is your Ubuntu username
[06:21] <Quest-Master> anir: Post your last fstab line here
[06:21] <anir> Quest-Master: give me the command to open fstab again
[06:22] <Quest-Master> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:22] <Superman> kipod: what should i do?
[06:23] <anir> Quest-Master: heck the line i had pasted is not there now????
[06:23] <etorix> ok .. couldnt get past that nvidia-glx error .. re-installed
[06:23] <Quest-Master> anir: You didn't save it then
[06:23] <Quest-Master> lol
[06:23] <anir> Quest-Master: no i didnt saved it..:(
[06:24] <Quest-Master> No wonder, hehe.
[06:24] <Quest-Master> No problem though.
[06:24] <anir> Quest-Master: i am such a stupid
[06:24] <Quest-Master> just add that line again.
[06:24] <Quest-Master> Then do the sudo mount -a in the terminal.
[06:24] <anir> i missed the line..
[06:24] <Quest-Master> Here
[06:24] <Quest-Master> /dev/hda#       /home/yourusernamehere/windows    vfat    umask=000,user       0       0
[06:25] <Superman> Quest-Master: how do i use the windows partioning?
[06:25] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: lottsa ppl having trouble mounting win partitions, isee :)
[06:25] <anir> Quest-Master: well there are 3 partitions in FAT32..so in # i will write 3..right?
[06:25] <Quest-Master> Superman:I haven't used the windows partitioning.
[06:25] <Quest-Master> anir: Correct.
[06:25] <Superman> o
[06:25] <Laosd> anybody had make working pmount with xfce ?
[06:25] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Yeah. ;)
[06:25] <Superman> where is kipod?
[06:25] <Quest-Master> Superman: Search for freeware partitioning tools.
[06:26] <Quest-Master> That'll make life much easier.
[06:26] <Quest-Master> ;)
[06:26] <SystemX_> i'm gonna download a ubuntu ISO which one should I get?
[06:26] <SystemX_> anyone care to say?
[06:26] <da_bon_bon> hey anyone here ordered ubuntu cds from shipit?
[06:26] <Quest-Master> SystemX_: The one that matches your system
[06:26] <SystemX_> well yea, but warty or the otherone?
[06:26] <Quest-Master> Wart.
[06:26] <Quest-Master> *Warty.
[06:26] <SystemX_> k
[06:26] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: #flood pls
[06:26] <Quest-Master> yup.
[06:26] <SystemX_> thanx
[06:27] <Superman> Quest-Master: can't i just install ubuntu once it is downloaded?
[06:27] <Superman> Quest-Master: why do i have to burn it to a cd?
[06:27] <huttan> Superman, how else will you access it from boot-up ?
[06:27] <Laosd> is it possible to working with xfce with pmount (because xffm seems check only fstab)
[06:27] <anir> Quest-Master: there is a new file system in the name "windows" has been created bnut when i click it it gives error msg
[06:27] <Quest-Master> anir: What is the message
[06:28] <Quest-Master> Superman: You could.
[06:28] <Superman> huttan: what is boot-up (srry, i'm dumb)
[06:28] <Quest-Master> Superman: Do this
[06:28] <bogus> elo all
[06:28] <anir> Quest-Master: unable to  mount the selected volume
[06:28] <Superman> Quest-Master: what?
[06:28] <Quest-Master> Superman: Just download and burn the CD
[06:28] <huttan> Superman, i mean..when you boot up, before you get into an operating system, you need to boot it up on a cd
[06:28] <Quest-Master> Superman: Then, when you do the partitioning part, erase the Win2000 partition and get the installer to repartition the space for Ubuntu
[06:28] <Quest-Master> It's easy.
[06:28] <mgedmin> huttan: some linux distros used to support installation more-or-less directly from dos/window by using loadlin.exe
[06:29] <huttan> mgedmin, but since when did ubuntu do it ?
[06:29] <anir> Quest-Master: so what should i do?
[06:29] <Superman> huttan: will the computer recognize the cd
[06:29] <mgedmin> that's why I said "some linux distros", and "used to"
[06:29] <Quest-Master> anir: Reboot
[06:29] <Quest-Master> Superman: Yes
[06:29] <mgedmin> I've no idea if loadlin can be used on anything more recent than windows 98
[06:29] <anir> Quest-Master: so it will work??
[06:29] <Quest-Master> anir: It should
[06:29] <huttan> Superman, if you have "boot from cd" set up correctly in bios, yes
[06:29] <Quest-Master> Come back if it doesn't
[06:30] <Superman> huttan: so i have to have the cd in when turning on my computer?
[06:30] <anir> Quest-Master: thank you man.. thank you very much
[06:30] <Quest-Master> Superman: It will most liekly.
[06:30] <huttan> Superman, yes
[06:30] <Quest-Master> Superman: Yes.
[06:30] <Quest-Master> *likely
[06:30] <anir> Quest-Master: yup.. i will reboot.
[06:30] <huttan> Quest-Master, you familiar with gdmflexiserver?
[06:30] <Superman> Quest-Master: so before i turn off my computer, i have to put the cd in and close it?
[06:31] <huttan> Superman, yes
[06:31] <Superman> WHAT!
[06:31] <Superman> huttan: isn't there any way esle without the cd?
[06:31] <Quest-Master> Superman: Why?  Or your computer.
[06:32] <huttan> Superman, just download what Quest-Master told you, burn it on a cd, leave it in after you burned it and reboot
[06:32] <Superman> Quest-Master: its a pain though
[06:32] <etorix> golly
[06:32] <Quest-Master> Err
[06:32] <Quest-Master> Why?
[06:32] <huttan> Superman, it couldnt be eassier
[06:32] <Superman> huttan: but i have to keep the cd in my comp evry time i started my comp up
[06:32] <huttan> no, just the first time, when you install ubuntu
[06:33] <Quest-Master> NO!
[06:33] <Quest-Master> lol
[06:33] <etorix> erm
[06:33] <Superman> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[06:33] <Quest-Master> Superman: Only when you have to install it you have to keep it in there
[06:33] <Quest-Master> lol
[06:33] <huttan> hehe
[06:33] <Quest-Master> Just like any other game CD or such.
[06:33] <Superman> Quest-Master: ohhhh now u tell me
[06:33] <Superman> lol
[06:33] <Quest-Master> lol
[06:33] <Superman> k, i'm really dumb
[06:33] <Quest-Master> No worries ;)
[06:33] <Superman> well 3 min to go
[06:33] <Quest-Master> Great.
[06:34] <Superman> is ubuntu better than mandrake?
[06:34] <anir> hey man its not working
[06:34] <Quest-Master> Superman: Yes it is
[06:34] <Quest-Master> Superman: I used Mandrake, so I would know. ;)
[06:34] <huttan> ubuntu beats all :)
[06:34] <Quest-Master> anir: I have no idea what is wrong.
[06:34] <anir> Quest-Master: its giving error special device /dev/hda3 does not exist
[06:35] <Quest-Master> anir: Paste me the last fstab line you added again
[06:35] <Superman> Quest-Master: is there a special way of burning the cd or do i just burn it by saying its a data isc?
[06:35] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master, crimsun: same problem.... why dont i just download the .tar.gz ?
[06:35] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: apt-get update?
[06:35] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: done.
[06:35] <Quest-Master> multiverse AND universe?
[06:35] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: in #flood, paste the output of `apt-cache policy xmms'
[06:35] <Quest-Master> Superman: Do you have Nero?
[06:36] <Superman> Quest-Master: no, i have sonic
[06:36] <Quest-Master> Superman: Find the option to burn an ISO CD
[06:36] <Superman> is nero free?
[06:36] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: see #flood
[06:36] <Quest-Master> Nope
[06:36] <Superman> anything free that i could use?
[06:36] <anir> Quest-Master: heck... there is no line atall...???? :((((
[06:36] <da_bon_bon> crimsun: can u gimme ur sources.list, please? thor; dcc?
[06:36] <Quest-Master> anir: Did you save it this time?
[06:37] <anir> Quest-Master: yes i did.. but there is not a single line now
[06:37] <Quest-Master> Is there nothing in there?
[06:37] <Quest-Master> :o
[06:37] <anir> Quest-Master: nope
[06:38] <Quest-Master> anir: Join #flood
[06:38] <anir> Quest-Master: hey now its coming..lol
[06:38] <Quest-Master> anir: Post your entire fstab there
[06:38] <Quest-Master> anir: Oh, is it working?
[06:38] <anir> Quest-Master: i am giving you the last line
[06:38] <Superman> Quest-Master: i went to help and found this about ISO on Sonic: Backup Projects > Understanding Image Files
[06:38] <Superman> Understanding Image Files
[06:38] <Superman> RecordNow! can take all the information stored on a CD or DVD and convert it into a single file called a disc image. That image file can then be used to reproduce the original disc. This is useful when you need to make several copies of the same disc but do not want to read from the source drive every time, or if you want to use your recorder to both read and write to your discs.
[06:38] <Superman> By having the image file stored on your hard drive, you free up the source disc for other uses. You can also send the image file across a network so other people can record their own copies.
[06:38] <Superman> Image file types
[06:38] <Superman> There are several image file types or formats. The makers of RecordNow! have created a format known as Global-Image. These Global-Image files contain not only the data files on a disc, but the exact placement of those files, their folder structure, read and write properties, and much more. Files in this format can be recognized by the .gi file name extension.
[06:38] <crimsun> um
[06:38] <Superman> Some mastering products cannot read Global-Image files, however. This could cause a problem if someone needed to create a disc from your image and they did not have the RecordNow! software program installed on their computer. For this reason, RecordNow! offers the option to create images of data discs in a less complete, but more compatible, format known as ISO. Files in this format can be recognized by the .iso file name extension.
[06:39] <Superman> The availability of the ISO image option depends on the type of disc (CD or DVD), the size of the file, and the number of tracks on the disc.
[06:39] <Superman> srry
[06:39] <Quest-Master> Ok
[06:39] <anir> Quest-Master: /dev/hda3       /home/anir/windows    vfat    umask=000,user       0       0
[06:39] <Quest-Master> Burn it.
[06:39] <Quest-Master> anir: Are you sure hda3 exists?
[06:39] <Superman> do i have to select an option?
[06:39] <huttan> anir, "," between vfat and umask
[06:39] <Quest-Master> Superman: Select the Burn ISO option.. or something along those lines
[06:39] <anir> Quest-Master: well i have 3 partitions in FAT system so i gave 3
[06:39] <Quest-Master> huttan: I don't have a comma between them
[06:40] <Superman> and the icon for warty is one of those that if u click on it will ask u for an application to open it with
[06:40] <huttan> no, im stupid
[06:40] <huttan> sorry
[06:40] <huttan> anir, can you mount it regulary w/o the fstab file ?
[06:40] <Quest-Master> anir: Try hda1 or hda2 instead.
[06:40] <anir> okay
[06:41] <anir> Quest-Master: i have given hda1..then what?
[06:41] <da_bon_bon> YAY i am getting xmms, i got my fs mounted.... man ubuntu ROCKS and so does this channel....
[06:41] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master, crimsun: thanks.
[06:41] <Quest-Master> :D
[06:41] <Quest-Master> great da_bon_bon. :)
[06:42] <Quest-Master> anir: Save it.
[06:42] <Quest-Master> sudo mount -a
[06:42] <Quest-Master> In the terminal.
[06:42] <anir> Quest-Master: i saved it
[06:42] <ska1> hi all, what is the deb which installs calendar in thunderbird?
[06:42] <anir> Quest-Master: save in the terminal..how?
[06:42] <da_bon_bon> anir: please come on #flood and i will give u my fstab, so as to avoid any problems...
[06:44] <Quest-Master> anir: Save the fstab
[06:44] <Quest-Master> anir: Go to the terminal
[06:44] <da_bon_bon> how do i avoid typing passwords when 'sudo' ing? in visudo All=Nopasswd all ?
[06:44] <Quest-Master> anir: Type in sudo mount -a
[06:44] <anir> Quest-Master: yes i did
[06:45] <da_bon_bon> how do i avoid typing passwords when 'sudo' ing? in visudo All=Nopasswd all ?
[06:45] <Quest-Master> anir: Did it work?
[06:45] <anir> Quest-Master: its now showing my c drive
[06:45] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: here, do this
[06:45] <Quest-Master> anir: So it worked? :)
[06:45] <Superman> Quest-Master: i have 3 opts: ISO+Joliet, ISO+Joliet+UDF, or ISO Level 2
[06:45] <ska1> how do i install subird, the calendar app from mozilla foundation?
[06:45] <Quest-Master> Superman: Err.. is there a default option?
[06:46] <anir> Quest-Master: yes..but what about the other 2 partitions??
[06:46] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: sudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[06:46] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Find this line --  your_system_username    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:46] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Replace it with this:  your_system_username    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[06:46] <Quest-Master> anir: Copy and paste that line and do it for the other two partitions
[06:47] <Quest-Master> I think you only have 2 partitions though
[06:47] <Quest-Master> Since hda3 does not exist
[06:47] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Did it work?
[06:47] <anir> Quest-Master: okay so i will type hda2 and hda3??
[06:47] <Quest-Master> Copy and paste that line and edit it for hda2 and hda3, yes.
[06:48] <anir> Quest-Master: in FAT32 i had C,D E and F..now  in F i have installed UBUNTU and i have Win98SE in C
[06:48] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: worked. also, i have xmms too
[06:48] <Quest-Master> Great. :D
[06:48] <Quest-Master> anir: Try all three and see which ones work.
[06:48] <anir> okay
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Superman: you there?
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Superman: Use this program -- http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Burn an ISO with it
[06:49] <Superman> Quest-Master: ya the ISO+Joliet
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Ok
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Superman: Just try that then
[06:49] <Superman> k
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Use ISO+Joliet first
[06:49] <Quest-Master> Then, if it doesn't work, we'll use the new program I linked you to
[06:50] <Quest-Master> Burn the CD, boot up, and install it once you are done
[06:50] <da_bon_bon> how do i add XMMS option in the menus ?
[06:51] <Superman> Quest-Master: i'll just use the one u linked me to
[06:51] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: just log out and back in
[06:51] <crimsun> da_bon_bon: it should be in Applications>Sound & Video
[06:51] <anir> Quest-Master: i guess it will not take hda3
[06:52] <da_bon_bon> ok. can i get a nice UBUNTU pixmap for GRUB? how do install it?
[06:53] <Superman> Quest-Master?
[06:53] <Superman> Quest-Master: i have it installed
[06:53] <da_bon_bon> how do i set default boot option in grub? default= ?
[06:53] <lukins>  anyone else here stuck inside cause of the snow
[06:53] <spikeb> not me
[06:53] <spikeb> too used to snow
[06:54] <lukins> foot of snow outside and no one can leave parking
[06:54] <Quest-Master> anir: Too bad :(
[06:54] <Quest-Master> Superman: Ok
[06:54] <Quest-Master> Superman: Burn the ISO then :D
[06:54] <Superman> do i click the 1st opt
[06:55] <Quest-Master> For the ISO, yes
[06:55] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master how do i set default boot option in grub? default= ?
[06:56] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: how do i set default boot option in grub? default= ?
[06:56] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: default		X_sequence
[06:57] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Actually, just replace the X_sequence with the number of the OS
[06:58] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: ok if i replace with title? do i need to a number? numbering starts from 0, right?
[06:58] <Quest-Master> Yeah
[06:58] <Quest-Master> So find the number of your OS on the list
[06:58] <bassinboy> got my ubuntu CDs!
[06:58] <tar`> 'lo
[06:59] <spikeb> bassinboy, i got mine yesterday :)
[06:59] <bassinboy> BAh!
[06:59] <tar`> I'm about to install Windows on a separate partition; how do I create a boot disk to restore grub once I'm done?
[06:59] <lukins> da_bon_bon have you tried System/System Settings/boot
[07:00] <Quest-Master> tar`: It's a better idea to install Windows THEN Ubuntu :(
[07:00] <da_bon_bon> lukins: wait trying.
[07:00] <anir> Quest-Master: hey can i use lindows for free??
[07:00] <Superman> Quest-Master: is the icon for warty suppose to look like an icon that when u click on it asks what app to open it with?
[07:00] <tar`> Quest-Master: I can't do much about that now, can I? ;)
[07:01] <tar`> Quest-Master: I did it like this on purpose because I thought if I had a boot disk, I should be able to simply install Grub again.
[07:01] <bassinboy> i'm about to install ubuntu
[07:01] <da_bon_bon> lukins: where is it system settings boot?
[07:01] <Quest-Master> anir: Nope.
[07:01] <Quest-Master> Superman: Don't open it.
[07:01] <bassinboy> but i dont want to install a boot loader, i will use my current one
[07:01] <tar`> Quest-Master: I didn't have a reason to install Windows until just now when EverQuest 2 arrived in the mail ;)
[07:01] <Superman> k
[07:01] <Quest-Master> tar`: Yeah. :(
[07:01] <lukins> da_bon_bon are you just trying to change the boot order?
[07:01] <da_bon_bon> lukins: yes.
[07:02] <Superman> Quest-Master: it'll take 5 mins
[07:02] <Quest-Master> Superman: Just burn it.. don't open.
[07:02] <Superman> Quest-Master: k
[07:02] <lukins> then click on the checkbox under default of the OS you want to boot
[07:02] <Quest-Master> :)
[07:02] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, thx for the screenshot,
[07:02] <anir> Quest-Master: do i have to pay for it?? but linux is free to use..isnt it?
[07:02] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: No problem. :D
[07:02] <Quest-Master> anir: Some companies like to make money off of Linux.
[07:02] <Quest-Master> anir: That's why I don't use SuSE anymore.
[07:02] <Quest-Master> Or RedHat.
[07:02] <Quest-Master> Or Lindows.
[07:02] <crimsun> and why shouldn't companies make money off linux?
[07:03] <Quest-Master> Or XandrOS.
[07:03] <jdub> that's a bizarre thing to say
[07:03] <crimsun> the very philosophy of linux doesn't preclude turning a profit
[07:03] <lukins> quest do you think that ubuntu/debian is comparable to those distros
[07:03] <spikeb> um
[07:03] <Quest-Master> It's my opinion. ;)
[07:03] <Superman> Quest-Master: would i be able to put it onto another comp without downloading on that comp using the cd
[07:03] <spikeb> ubuntu is sponsored by a company trying to make money off of linux
[07:03] <Quest-Master> Yeah.
[07:03] <Quest-Master> Except they don't charge money for the distro itself.
[07:03] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, are you able to shre folders in ubuntu over samba just by right clicking and chooseing "shre"?
[07:03] <Quest-Master> Anyhow.
[07:03] <Quest-Master> hardkaare: I believe so.
[07:04] <jdub> hardkaare: no, you can't
[07:04] <Superman> Quest-Master: would i be able to put it onto another comp without downloading on that comp using the cd
[07:04] <tar`> hardkaare, I don't see that option
[07:04] <spikeb> so you're cheap, not philosophical.
[07:04] <spikeb> :P
[07:04] <Quest-Master> Superman: Yes.
[07:04] <da_bon_bon> in nautilus, if i double clik an icon, it opens in seaprate window. how do i have it open i nsame window?
[07:04] <Superman> k
[07:04] <Quest-Master> spikeb: And that is your opinion, to each his own. Now let's leave it at that, ok?
[07:04] <jdub> da_bon_bon: hold shift to close the previous window behind, or use browse mode.
[07:04] <tar`> da_bon_bon, there is a howto on UbuntuLinux.org somewhere under documentation.
[07:04] <Quest-Master> :)
[07:04] <Superman> Quest-Master: does ubuntu have a partioning option with it?
[07:05] <Neill> Are there any postfix guru's about?
[07:05] <Quest-Master> Superman: yes
[07:05] <Quest-Master> Superman: In the installer it does
[07:05] <Superman> ok
[07:05] <lamont> Neill: what you trying to do?
[07:05] <Superman> k
[07:05] <Quenyar> Installing VMware tools in ubuntu - am being asked "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?"  Anybody have a clue?
[07:05] <Pozac> tar`, do you have a live cd?
[07:05] <Neill> I'm trying to get postfix to deliver mail to cyrus
[07:05] <da_bon_bon> jdub: how do i get to browse mode?
[07:05] <tar`> Pozac, Yup
[07:05] <lukins> da_bon_bon, ubuntuguide.org RTFM
[07:05] <Pozac> tar`, boot that
[07:05] <jdub> da_bon_bon: right click on a folder, choose browse
[07:05] <Neill> and also to authenticate people sending mail via my server
[07:05] <hardkaare> Quest-Master, would you look it up for me?
[07:05] <da_bon_bon> jdub: thanks. how do i set it as default mode?
[07:05] <jdub> da_bon_bon: in the file management preferences, you can set that as default
[07:05] <jdub> if you really prefer it
[07:06] <Neill> I've got as far as installing cyrus and postfix
[07:06] <Neill> and they both worked on their own
[07:06] <tar`> Pozac, erm, what then?
[07:06] <Superman> Quest-Master: do i have to partion my win 2000 before installing or could i do it with ubuntu?
[07:06] <Neill> but I'm having trouble with the user mapping between the two (or something similar)
[07:06] <Pozac> tar`, I'm not sure whether you need some mount trickery first, or if you just can run grub from there
[07:06] <Quest-Master> Superman: In the installer, just delete Win2000. Then get it to repartition the free space automatically.
[07:07] <Quest-Master> Superman: Very easy.
[07:07] <Superman> k
[07:07] <lamont> Neill: should just require using cyrus transport for local delivery
[07:07] <tar`> Pozac, Ooh yeah, I remember. I can install Grub from my Gentoo boot CD. Thanks!
[07:07] <lamont> or at least for the cyrus destined mail...
[07:07] <da_bon_bon> jdub: i LOVE it. where do i set default?
[07:07] <Superman> Quest-Master: just out of curiosity, what will happen if i delete win 2000 and nothing is on there, no OS
[07:07] <Quenyar> So no one knows the location of C header files used in the running kernel?
[07:07] <Quest-Master> Superman: You can just use it as storage.
[07:07] <Pozac> tar`, no problem.. you can just chroot into your old partition and run grub from there and use the old config
[07:08] <lamont> Neill: one of the bugs in http://bugs.debian.org/postfix-tls has a how-to for setting it up.
[07:08] <Superman> Quest-Master: k, the burning is complete
[07:08] <Superman> Quest-Master: what now?
[07:08] <da_bon_bon> jdub: i LOVE it. where do i set default?
[07:08] <lamont> that's in plan for hoary, I just need to figure out the cert crap to do it well.
[07:08] <Neill> lamont: thanks
[07:08] <spikeb> i liked what i saw of hoary yesterday
[07:09] <Superman> Quest-Master: what do i do now?
[07:09] <spikeb> Quenyar, /usr/include/linux i would think
[07:09] <Quest-Master> Superman: Reboot.
[07:09] <Superman> Quest-Master: was it ok to use a regular, 700 mb cd
[07:10] <Superman> Quest-Master: i am putting into my win 2000
[07:10] <Superman> i was using xp to download and burn
[07:10] <Quest-Master> Yup.
[07:10] <Quest-Master> As long as the CD is burned.
[07:10] <Quest-Master> You are good.
[07:10] <Quest-Master> Just reboot.
[07:10] <Superman> ok
[07:11] <Superman> i'm putting it into my win 2000 and rebooting
[07:11] <da_bon_bon> how do i get a splash screen for GRUB ??
[07:11] <Quenyar> spikeb:  VMware responded "The header files in /usr/linclude/linux are generally for C libraries, not for the running kernel, ... "  is this the location, or is it likely that I do not have the kernel source files installed?
[07:12] <lukins> Quenyar, what are you trying to compile, may i ask?
[07:12] <Superman> Quest-Master: its starting up win 2000. is this right?
[07:12] <Quenyar> lukins:  vmware tools
[07:13] <ogra> Quenyar: install the linux-headers package matching your kernel version
[07:13] <lukins> Quenyar, i had the same problem with mplayer, so now i'm actually recompiling the kernel to see if I can get it to compile
[07:13] <Superman> Quest-Master: its starting up win 2000, is this suppose to happen?
[07:13] <lukins> Quenyar, I tired what ogra suggested....
[07:14] <spikeb> hmm
[07:14] <lukins> superman, do you have boot from cd enabled?
[07:14] <Superman> dunno
[07:14] <ogra>  Quenyar: also the build-essential package is needed
[07:14] <Pozac> it needs to try booting from the CD before it tries the disk
[07:14] <lukins> Superman, you need to look in your bios and make sure you have boot from cd enabled
[07:14] <Pozac> it's a BIOS setting
[07:15] <Quenyar> ogra:  please remind me how to verify my current kernel number?  And then I'd need to apt-get install linux-headers<n> ?
[07:15] <ogra>  Quenyar: there is a wiki page for vmware anywhere on ubuntulinux.org iirc
[07:15] <Quest-Master> Superman: No. :(
[07:15] <Killian> anyone here w. Dual Monitors ?
[07:15] <ogra> Quenyar: uname -r
[07:15] <Quest-Master> Superman: When your computer starts up, type in F12 and make sure the CD is at the top of the BIOS
[07:16] <Pozac> Superman, possibly it's the delete key
[07:17] <Quenyar> ogra:  with kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-3 could you please tell me the apt-get command I would need to enter to obtain the correct linux-headers package?
[07:18] <Pozac> Superman, also.. if the computer boots the windows CD, you've burned the CD wrong :)
[07:18] <Pozac> Quenyar, use Synaptic?
[07:18] <lukins> Quenyar, its under kernel-heades
[07:19] <lukins> headers
[07:19] <Quenyar> ok i'm dumb - keep trying to be smarter than the O/S
[07:19] <bassinboy> OMG, ubuntu just wiped my HD
[07:20] <ogra> Quenyar: depends, it is also depending on your arch (386, 686, k7)
[07:20] <Pozac> bassinboy, really?
[07:20] <da_bon_bon> how do i ask firefox to open external links in _new tabs_ ??
[07:21] <ogra> Quenyar: but this should work and pull in the right arch: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-3
[07:21] <miausX> hi! :)
[07:21] <bassinboy> i formatted a 15gm partition, hda1, for ubuntu, and it got hung on 33% so i had to un plug my computer and everything on my HD is gone
[07:21] <amex> how can i mount my usb memory stick device?
[07:21] <martin_> does anybody know how to make q3 run on ubuntu linux?
[07:21] <martin_> (quake 3 arena)
[07:21] <sjoerd> amex: plug it in
[07:21] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: you here ?
[07:21] <amex> sjoerd, it didn't work
[07:22] <Pozac> bassinboy, got hung? hmmm
[07:22] <Quest-Master> da_bon_bon: Sure am.
[07:22] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: how do i ask firefox to open external links in _new tabs_ ??
[07:22] <lek> _
[07:22] <miausX> da_bon_bon: that is explained in the wiki :)
[07:22] <Pozac> bassinboy, sounds like the hard drive might be broken if it hangs during format
[07:23] <miausX> da_bon_bon: please, go to www.ubuntulinux.org and search there
[07:23] <da_bon_bon> miausX: sorry. ok
[07:23] <miausX> Pozac: hi! ;D
[07:23] <Pozac> bassinboy, what kind of computer?
[07:23] <amex> sjoerd, can't I do something like mount /dev/foo /mnt/foo
[07:23] <Pozac> hey miausX! ;)
[07:24] <sjoerd> amex: it should just work (tm)
[07:24] <miausX> da_bon_bon: oh! no problem, excuse me, but I don't remember how you can do that, so I give you the link :)
[07:24] <ogra> amex: look if the device appears in the device manager
[07:24] <bassinboy> Pozac: ibm netvista
[07:25] <Superman> Quest-Master: its saying it has a media failure or smthng
[07:25] <Pozac> bassinboy, seems you're running knoppix now.. are the partitions really gone, as in the files in /dev missing?
[07:25] <Pozac> hmm.. an ibm
[07:25] <da_bon_bon> Quest-Master: can u pls help anir as i am unable to ?
[07:25] <Quenyar> thanks all, helpful as always (well, mostly always :-)}
[07:26] <bassinboy> Pozac:  theres a hda for all numbers, but they wont mount
[07:27] <Pozac> bassinboy, that sounds really odd
[07:27] <amex> ogra, there are some "USB Hub Interface", but I can't see anything about the memory stick
[07:27] <bassinboy> fdisk shows no partitons on my drive.
[07:27] <ogra> amex: even if you plug out and in ?
[07:27] <Pozac> I'm just a volunteer, anyone more offical who wants to help bassinboy here?
[07:27] <amex> ogra, yes
[07:28] <Superman> Quest-Master: its saying it has a media failure or smthng
[07:28] <ogra> amex: on  a default warty install ?
[07:28] <amex> ogra, yes
[07:29] <Pozac> bassinboy, not really sure how to go about it - if the disk is ok and ubuntu fucked up, I believe your data should be recoverable
[07:29] <edulix> hi !
[07:29] <bassinboy> please? i had a lot of information on my HD