[03:52] <yotux> how can I help out the bug team?
[03:56] <yotux> what is mentoring about on the bug team?
[04:43] <Ryan52> hrm. did I maybe loose the reply to my request to join the bug control team? or was there no reply? silence scares me :p
[04:48] <Ryan52> oh. "83 proposed members"...
[05:13] <duanedesign> Bug #307357 the Importance of the bug should be set to 'Wishlist' by someone in the 'Bug Control' group, Thank You.
[05:15] <duanedesign> hggdh: thanks again^^ Me and two other LoCo members have already started
[08:42] <maco> anyone around that can answer some acpi debugging questions?
[09:34] <BoogieBoo> Hi all
[09:34] <BoogieBoo> still having bug issue trying to establish a VPN connection to a PPTP server
[09:37] <BoogieBoo> It is supossed that the last network-manager version is 0.7~~svn20081015t024626 para actually I can only find doing a apt-cache search 0.6.6
[09:37] <BoogieBoo> ¿?¿?¿?
[09:37] <BoogieBoo> any help?
[09:44] <maco> BoogieBoo: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:44] <maco> 0.7 is only in intrepid or jaunty
[09:45] <BoogieBoo> hardy heron 8.04
[09:45] <BoogieBoo> ahhhh!
[09:45] <BoogieBoo> so hardy people can't use VPN???
[09:45] <maco> uh, i can use cisco vpn with no problem on hardy
[09:45] <BoogieBoo> PPTP
[09:45] <BoogieBoo> There is a bug
[09:45] <maco> no idea
[09:46] <BoogieBoo> I used to connect to my company VPN server successfuly until last updates
[09:46] <maco> i dont even know what pptp means
[09:46] <BoogieBoo> after that it is not workign anymore
[09:46] <maco> is proposed enabled?
[09:46] <BoogieBoo> yesterday I was told it is not working anymore because a bug
[09:46] <BoogieBoo> proposed is not enabled, I was told not to do so..
[09:46] <BoogieBoo> should I?
[09:46] <maco> ugh then that means its in the full archive :(
[09:47] <maco> i was hoping youd say its enabled, because thatd mean it was limited just to proposed
[09:47] <BoogieBoo> The point is that since the last updates it was workign fine; after them it is not due a network-manager bug!!!! however the bug was solved in 0.7 version...but 0.7 version is not avaibale for hardy!!!! I cant understand anything
[09:48] <maco> so id guess http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu16_i386.deb was the last version you had then
[09:48] <BoogieBoo> actually I have 0.6.6
[09:48] <maco> but you said that one's broken
[09:48] <BoogieBoo> yes
[09:48] <maco> so was 0.6.5 the last working one then?
[09:48] <BoogieBoo> I thing so
[09:48] <BoogieBoo> *think
[09:49] <maco> are you using 32bit?
[09:49] <maco> or 64bit?
[09:49] <BoogieBoo> 64
[09:49] <BoogieBoo> Linux chakir-laptop 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 19:35:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:49] <maco> in that case download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu16_amd64.deb
[09:50] <BoogieBoo> done
[09:50] <maco> and install it with "sudo dpgk --force-downgrade network-manager*.deb"
[09:50] <maco> er
[09:50] <BoogieBoo> ok, just a second
[09:50] <maco> and install it with "sudo dpgk -i --force-downgrade network-manager*.deb"
[09:50] <maco> like that, sorry
[09:50] <maco> ah
[09:50] <maco> and install it with "sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade network-manager*.deb"
[09:50] <maco> total typing failure :(
[09:50] <BoogieBoo> ok
[09:51] <maco> that one's right this time :P
[09:51] <maco> the force-downgrade should let you install the older version over your current one
[09:52] <BoogieBoo> libnl1-pre6 is missing
[09:52] <maco> hold on...
[09:52] <BoogieBoo> ok thanks
[09:54] <maco> that one must be for gutsy
[09:55] <maco> er...network-manager hasnt been updated in hardy since march
[09:55] <maco> its your pptp thing, i guess
[09:56] <BoogieBoo> well, I get the error message from network-manager
[09:56] <BoogieBoo> "Connection FAILED"
[09:56] <BoogieBoo> allways the same
[09:57] <maco> NM can connect to networks fine, right?
[09:57] <maco> its just PPTP that's broken?
[09:57] <Nafallo> maco: mostly :-)
[09:57] <BoogieBoo> yes,everything is correct, except for the VPN connection I sued to use,
[09:57] <Nafallo> (that's WPA, open and static wired)
[09:57] <maco> there *should* be a command line way to test the pptp stuff, shouldnt there? i use cisco vpn from the command line all the time.
[09:57] <Nafallo> meeh. I should have read all of it :-P
[09:58] <maco> Nafallo: im guessing you have intel 3945 and cant get WEP access points to auth using NM either?
[09:59] <Nafallo> maco: yes
[09:59] <Nafallo> maco: well, last time I tried anyway.
[09:59] <maco> yeah....i think it worked in dapper
[09:59] <Nafallo> maco: I actually thought it was 802.11b though...
[09:59] <maco> hasnt worked since then
[09:59] <BoogieBoo> pptp-linux:
[09:59] <BoogieBoo>   Instalados: 1.7.0-2ubuntu2
[09:59] <BoogieBoo>   Candidato: 1.7.0-2ubuntu2
[09:59] <BoogieBoo>   Tabla de versión:
[09:59] <BoogieBoo>  *** 1.7.0-2ubuntu2 0
[09:59] <BoogieBoo>         500 http://ftp.crihan.fr hardy/main Packages
[09:59] <BoogieBoo>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:59] <Nafallo> maco: can't connect to my parents open 802.11b last time I was there.
[09:59] <BoogieBoo> sorry for the spam
[09:59] <maco> nah, if i give it the wep key in iwconfig, it works fine
[10:00] <maco> just not with NM
[10:00] <Nafallo> BoogieBoo: paste.ubuntu.com in the future please :-)
[10:00] <maco> oh yeah i saw a bug about 802.11b being broken on 3945 as well
[10:00] <BoogieBoo> Nafallo,sure, I am really sorry
[10:00] <Nafallo> BoogieBoo: no worries. you didn't know :-)
[10:00] <BoogieBoo> maco, that's my pptp packet version
[10:01] <maco> BoogieBoo: try this one then http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pptp-linux/pptp-linux_1.7.0-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[10:01] <BoogieBoo> maco, ok
[10:01] <maco> BoogieBoo: same thing with sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade to install it
[10:01] <BoogieBoo> maco, ok
[10:02] <BoogieBoo> done
[10:02] <maco> BoogieBoo: test it
[10:02] <maco> i dont *think* a reboot is needed
[10:02] <BoogieBoo> so I guess I sould restart network service right?
[10:02] <maco> perhaps?
[10:03] <maco> id just try it straight away
[10:03] <maco> and see
[10:03] <BoogieBoo> Well anyway I restarted networking just in case
[10:03] <maco> though then again, i dont know how to run that thing through a terminal
[10:03] <maco> ok
[10:03] <BoogieBoo>  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:03] <maco> Nafallo: any chance you know anything about acpi?
[10:04] <maco> BoogieBoo: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager might matter too?
[10:04] <Nafallo> maco: asking the actual question is better...
[10:04] <maco> BoogieBoo: i meant i didnt know how to do pptp from the terminal. i expect its possible. it wouldnt require reloading NM
[10:05] <maco> Nafallo: the debugging page for acpi says to try disabling different chunks of acpi to see which is the source of an issue. trouble is, i need acpi to be all there because my acpi bug is only triggerable *after* a successful suspend/resume cycle
[10:05] <maco> the bug being that it hangs on reboot
[10:05] <BoogieBoo> maco, I don't have any script in /etc/init.d with the name of NetworkManager
[10:05] <maco> oh ok then
[10:05] <maco> im on Intrepid now so i'm not 100% sure where things changed, sorry
[10:06] <maco> does not hang on reboot after a fresh boot. just if ive suspended.
[10:06] <Nafallo> maco: no idea. mjg59 iz ACPI GOD...
[10:06] <BoogieBoo> maco, same result
[10:06] <BoogieBoo> maco, I think I have restart networkmanager
[10:06] <BoogieBoo> may be
[10:06] <maco> Nafallo: really? did not know that
[10:06] <BoogieBoo> But I don't know how throught the console, so I think I am oging to restart
[10:06] <maco> BoogieBoo: yeah probably. log out and back in would do it...
[10:07] <BoogieBoo> maco, ok see you in a minute
[10:07] <maco> kk
[10:07] <maco> i knew mjg59 was a smarty, but i didnt know he did acpi
[10:07] <Nafallo> maco: ties in nicely with suspend/resume and that stuff :-)
[10:08] <maco> haha yeah
[10:10] <BoogieBoo> Hi again
[10:10] <BoogieBoo> maco, same result
[10:11] <BoogieBoo> maco, I just don't know what happened
[10:11] <BoogieBoo> before was working, I didn't make any changes in my system
[10:11] <BoogieBoo> also at home in my desktop computer I installed intrepid and VPN was buggy too, but they solved
[10:12] <BoogieBoo> It's very sad to be forced to restart in XP just to VPN a remote network..
[10:16] <maco> :(
[10:16] <maco> the weekly newsletter hasnt come out yt
[10:16] <maco> itll tell what was updated this week
[10:16] <maco> maybe that'll help figure out the cause?
[10:17] <BoogieBoo> yes, may be
[10:17] <BoogieBoo> Anyway, I will install intrepid in this laptop this weekend and see if the issue gets solved
[10:17] <BoogieBoo> but it WAS working before pretty good
[10:20] <BoogieBoo> http://pastebin.com/m7310712b
[10:20] <maco> you could just do intrepid from a live cd...
[10:20] <BoogieBoo> that's my KVpnc log while trying to connect; I installed this KDE client just to ttest networkmanager is not the issue
[10:21] <BoogieBoo> maco, I already have intrepid at home, but idoesn't works as well with VPN networks..(pptp)
[10:22] <maco> oh
[10:22] <maco> still, maybe try from the command line
[10:22] <maco> i dont know how to do it, but im sure you can find directions or read the manpag
[10:22] <maco> *manpage
[10:23] <maco> because then you can at least find out if its the pptp or if its the way pptp interacts with nm
[10:24] <BoogieBoo> let's see..
[10:26] <BoogieBoo> http://pastebin.com/m1cc5d31f
[10:26] <BoogieBoo> that's the content of syslog
[10:26] <BoogieBoo> (regarding to the vpn connection)
[10:26] <BoogieBoo> look at line 7: http://pastebin.com/m1cc5d31f
[10:27] <BoogieBoo> sorry, line 7 is: Client connection established.
[10:27] <BoogieBoo> so the client gets connected to the vpn server, however somehow it disconects later
[10:27] <BoogieBoo> ¿?
[10:48] <BUGabundo_work> BoogieBoo: ping
[10:48] <BUGabundo_work> did you get your prob identified/fix?
[10:49] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, no
[10:49] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, I tried everything
[10:49] <BoogieBoo> nothing worked so far
[10:49] <BoogieBoo> BUGabundo_work, I am investigatint the pppt log files
[10:51] <BUGabundo_work> didn't asac manage to help you out debug it, BoogieBoo?
[10:51] <BoogieBoo> no he didn't
[10:53] <BUGabundo_work> bad asac, bad
[10:53] <BUGabundo_work> lol
[10:53] <BoogieBoo> XD
[10:54] <BoogieBoo> no problem
[10:54] <BoogieBoo> XD
[10:54] <BUGabundo_work> you know this is a tuff week
[10:54] <BUGabundo_work> with the UDS
[10:55] <BoogieBoo> Well, it seems I coudl track the problem:
[10:55] <BoogieBoo> http://pastebin.com/m1cc5d31f
[10:55] <BoogieBoo> adn the solution:
[10:55] <BoogieBoo> This is definitely the solution as reported by nivannick. A trace using tcpdump showed that the ipaddress being presented to the remote vpn server for negotiation is the "INTERNAL" ip address of the calling PC, which of course will not work. By using port triggering on your router for port 1723 the vpn server responds to the public ip address of your router which then knows to forward the response back to your pc for the v
[10:55] <BoogieBoo> pn call and the connection is then established.
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> great
[10:56] <BUGabundo_work> open a bug and detail that there!
[10:57] <BoogieBoo> I don't agree with that solution, do you know why?
[10:57] <BoogieBoo> Because form the same machine, using the same hardware, using the same network, the same router...I CAN perfectly connnect to the VPN using XP
[10:57] <BoogieBoo> without doing that ports trick
[10:59] <BUGabundo_work> really strange bug
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> I would say its hardware (router)
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> but if XP works....
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> I guess its one of those occasions that either XP can't care less about what it is doing wrong
[11:00] <BoogieBoo> yes, I have both systems in the same laptop XP and Ubuntu, and when I am in XP everything works fine
[11:00] <BUGabundo_work> or that HW is made to work with windows
[11:00] <BoogieBoo> It is a HP laptop
[11:01] <BoogieBoo> but remember that I told you that the VPN was working pretty good before the latest updates in Ubuntu...
[11:01] <BoogieBoo> so IT WAS working in Ubuntu, but not now
[11:01] <BoogieBoo> ¿?
[11:01] <BoogieBoo> I didn't touch anything here
[11:01] <BoogieBoo> just accepted the diferents updates..
[11:04] <BUGabundo_work> have you filed a bug yet?
[11:06] <BoogieBoo> not yet
[11:07] <BoogieBoo> I am going to install intrepid in this laptop tomorrow, so I hope I can solve this issue
[11:07] <BoogieBoo> I am sick and tired fo restarting in XP just to access my company network for work
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> no need to install it
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> just run from LiveCD
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> or even better
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> boot from internet
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> if you have fast connection
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> http://openlab.jp/oscircular/inetboot/
[11:08] <BUGabundo_work> I have 4 grub stanzas using that
[11:09] <BoogieBoo> ow! I dind't know the network bootup
[11:10] <BoogieBoo> We have here a 3M DSL connection, Can I try that?
[11:10] <BUGabundo_work> sure
[11:10] <BUGabundo_work> just to get to the GNOME it will use about 200MiBs of download
[11:10] <BUGabundo_work> just in case you have some sort of limits
[11:10] <BUGabundo_work> plus you have to choose a fast mirror...
[11:11] <BUGabundo_work> MAIN is slow as hell
[11:11] <Nafallo> ?
[11:11] <BUGabundo_work> when I use that to test Daily builds it takes me about 10 mins to boot
[11:11] <BUGabundo_work> what Nafallo?
[11:11] <Nafallo> main is slow?
[11:11] <BoogieBoo> ok, so I am going to test it now to check this VPN issue
[11:12] <Nafallo> slower than universe?
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> well give it a try Nafallo...
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> using inetboot I get packages at about 30kB/s
[11:13] <Nafallo> BUGabundo_work: first of, what did you mean by main? :-)
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> with a max of 200KB/s
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> ahh MAIN server
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> lol
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> cdimage.u.c
[11:13] <BUGabundo_work> and releases.u.c
[11:14] <BoogieBoo> well first I want to try something: I want to access to a XP bottle with VMWare and see if I can establish the VPN connection from there
[11:14] <BoogieBoo> (under ubuntu)
[11:15] <Nafallo> hm. I get about my 20Mbps... :-)
[11:15]  * Nafallo tries from another server
[11:16] <Nafallo>  10.39M/s    ETA 00:50
[11:16] <Nafallo> can't find them slow...
[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> humm haven't done that in a few months
[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> but I remmember reading from lots of people that cdimage was slow...
[11:17] <Nafallo> 11:18:15 (10.09 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [733896704/733896704]
[11:17]  * BUGabundo_work upgrades his ineboot stanzas to try daily iso
[11:20] <BoogieBoo> I installed some moduls for VirtualBox..How can I start them without restarting the laptop?
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> just in case anyone is interessed here are my extra stanzas:
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84291
[11:24] <BUGabundo_work> Nafallo: feel free to test it to
[11:32] <Nafallo> no thanks. I'm not that insane.
[11:32] <BUGabundo_work> ahh nice... /tmp/casper-netfsboot is not found!
[11:32] <BUGabundo_work> insane for what Nafallo?
[11:33] <BUGabundo_work> boot a LiveCD from web?
[11:33] <BUGabundo_work> its great to test an OS without installing it, no Virtual Machines, no burning media
[11:33] <BUGabundo_work> not even having to download the ALL iso
[11:34] <Nafallo> BUGabundo_work: I run my own mirror...
[11:36] <BUGabundo_work> even better
[11:36] <BUGabundo_work> LOL
[11:40] <MrKanister> BUGabundo_work: Wow nice. I ddn't know one can boot that way :) Does it have to download the whole image (700MB) or is it specialized to load only the files that are really really required?
[11:41] <BUGabundo_work> nope
[11:41] <BUGabundo_work> just the bits from the ISO that you need to run the livecd
[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> as I said before, from my calculations it takes about 180-200MiBs of data to get to Desktop MrKanister
[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> but it seems I'm having trouble with casper-netfsboot
[11:42] <MrKanister> BUGabundo_work: thanks. It's nevertheless a nice idea
[11:43] <BUGabundo_work> if anyone else want to try it and help  figure out what changed
[11:43] <BUGabundo_work> would be great
[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> ahhhhh it works with 8.04... but not ibex or jaunty!
[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> got to email inetboot team
[13:23] <thekorn> 5
[13:31] <BUGabundo_work> thekorn: 6
[13:32] <thekorn> :( sorry
[13:51] <BUGabundo_work> humm?
[14:40] <elmargol> 3 months old system crash bug on intrepid and still not resolved. (yes closed source nvidia) #270617
[14:40] <BUGabundo_work> !ping
[14:41] <BUGabundo_work> bug #270617
[14:55] <elmargol> Just wrote an email to nvidia... do you think I get a human response?
[14:56] <BUGabundo_work> maybe in their foruns, you get better luck
[14:56] <elmargol> The thread on the forums is 3 months old and noone cares
[14:58] <elmargol> I had a GF2x GF4x GF5x GF6x GF7x and a GF8x I guess it is over now :(
[16:04] <iGama> Hy all, does any one know about a bug in Intrepid with a wireless Broadcom BCM4311 , freezing the system?
[16:05] <iGama> I already tried b43 and ndiswrapper, when I try to connect to a wpa2 + pap wireless network, the system freezes :S
[17:08] <Palintheus> trying to get started triaging, pulled this one up first 307486, I'm thinking it should be a wishlist/feature request the wiki tells me to ask here, but wanted to ake sure I was correct on thinking it was a feature request
[17:11] <hacktick> Palintheus:  I would use that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Feature%20Requests
[17:12] <hacktick> and close it.
[17:12] <Palintheus> ok, that's what I thought, just thought I'd ask
[17:12] <Palintheus> ok so it doesn't get set to wishlist, I close it?
[17:17] <pedro_> Palintheus: that's a known bug
[17:17] <pedro_> Palintheus: bug 185165
[17:17] <pedro_> Palintheus: feel free to mark it as duplicate of that one
[17:17] <Palintheus> ah ok, well crap, already put the feature request snippet in it...
[17:47] <wharp> I think  307229 should be set to wishlist
[17:51] <LaserJock> is there any possibilty of getting people to stop closing bugs that haven't been confirmed as not reproducible?
[17:53] <LaserJock> I keep getting bugs closed when nobody seems to have tried to reproduce the bug, it then drops off my "radar"
[18:11] <LaserJock> is that something better for the bugsquad ML?
[18:24] <wharp> if a bug has a releated bug upstream that has been marked as FIXED, what is the correct status for the bug in lp?
[20:00] <Hobbsee> !ping
[20:01] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: lol
[20:01] <Hobbsee> hrm.
[20:01] <Hobbsee> !ping
[20:01] <Hobbsee> wireless dropped.
[20:04] <jpds> Hmm.
[21:32] <torkiano> anyone can help triaging bug 306131?
[21:33] <maco> torkiano: ive been working on it
[21:33] <torkiano> hello maco, thank you
[21:34] <maco> my finals are over on tuesday. after that, i'll dig through the alsa-info outputs and compare them and start looking at driver source code to see if i can find the issue, k?
[21:40] <torkiano> don't worry maco. and good luck with your finals
[21:51] <ziroday> ogasawara: ping
[21:52] <ogasawara> ziroday: pong
[21:55] <ziroday> ogasawara:
[21:55] <ziroday> ogasawara: I'm Nick HS from bug 116752
[21:56] <ogasawara> ziroday: thanks for attaching the log
[21:56] <ziroday> and you asked me to upload my dmesg, but the error doesn't appear in there. I uploaded my syslog instead where the error occurs. Is that what you wanted?
[21:57] <ziroday> ogasawara: great, is there anything else you need?
[21:57] <ogasawara> ziroday: that's fine.  I do see you are running the 2.7.27-8 kernel, just curious if you've maybe tested 2.6.27-10 in intrepid-proposed
[21:57] <ziroday> ogasawara: I'll enable it now :)
[21:58] <ogasawara> ziroday: sweet, thanks.  If you can just post a small comment to the bug report with your results that'd be great.
[21:58] <ziroday> sure, was -10 put in proposed recently?
[22:01] <ogasawara> ziroday: I think it's been there for a while
[22:01] <maco> ogasawara: dec 3rd-ish?
[22:02] <ziroday> maco: oh right, well that was a while for me :). I guess I need to update more often
[22:03] <maco> oh wow no...longer than that
[22:03] <ogasawara> ziroday: also, how often do you see the message pop up?
[22:03] <ogasawara> maco: I want to say it was late november-ish when -10 hit proposed
[22:03] <maco> ogasawara: yeah, i just checked archive. nov 24
[22:04] <ziroday> ogasawara: um well, everytime the computer crashes, which is sporiadic but could be linked to heavy cpu and/or network usage. Its around once a day and usually happens when you need it working the most :)
[22:05] <ogasawara> ziroday: when using networking is that wifi or lan?
[22:05] <ziroday> ogasawara: wifi, my ethernet is no longer working
[22:05] <ogasawara> ziroday: which wifi driver?
[22:06] <ogasawara> ah iwl3945
[22:06] <ziroday> ogasawara: the default intrepid one
[22:07] <maco> for the record: ive had no crashes with iwl3945 on 2.6.27-10 in the um....3 days ive been usin git
[22:07] <maco> *using it
[22:07] <maco> and i guess its more like a week now
[22:07] <ziroday> yeah that one, however the card is a 3945ABG, not the bad one listed in the release notes
[22:07] <ziroday> plus its not a kernel panic, its something else
[22:07] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: since you are already here
[22:08] <BUGabundo> may I ask your hint
[22:08] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: sure
[22:08] <BUGabundo> on how to find out why I (almost) always get a trace back on shutdown?
[22:08] <BUGabundo> plus suspend and hibernate stop working this week
[22:08] <BUGabundo> a few seconds into it, laptop resumes...
[22:09] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: can you post me a photo for the stack trace?
[22:09] <BUGabundo> looking at the logs, I think its my eth card... but not sure
[22:09] <BUGabundo> I'll take it next time, sure
[22:09] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: re suspend/resume, had you updated the kernel?
[22:09] <BUGabundo> LP bug?
[22:09] <maco> BUGabundo: id try unloading the eth driver before shutdown
[22:09] <BUGabundo> Linux blubug 2.6.28-2-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 4 21:49:26 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:09] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: sure, a LP Bug would be good
[22:09] <ogasawara> BUGabundo: yes, try what maco said
[22:09] <BUGabundo> IIRC I already had suspend and hib working fine with this kernel
[22:10] <BUGabundo> but I recieved a nvidia driver more recently
[22:18] <BUGabundo> ogasawara: I find another thing strange
[22:18] <BUGabundo> the laptop will not poweroff after the traceback
[22:18] <BUGabundo> but I see the HD led still
[22:18] <BUGabundo> flashing
[22:22] <albert23> BUGabundo: Do you see lines "Kernel logging re-started after SIGSTOP" in your syslog?
[22:22]  * BUGabundo grepping
[22:22] <BUGabundo> lots of them
[22:23] <albert23> BUGabundo: then you seem to have bug 304774
[22:23] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84542/
[22:23] <BUGabundo> thanks for the heads up
[22:25] <ziroday> ogasawara: running -10 now, will add to the bug if the error still occurs there :)
[22:26] <ogasawara> ziroday: thanks
[22:27] <BUGabundo> sorry
[22:27] <BUGabundo> pidgin crashed
[22:27] <BUGabundo> did I loose anything
[22:27] <BUGabundo> albert23: to prevent extra damage / file corruption I'm using alt+sysrq+REISUB
[22:27] <BUGabundo> and them powerdown on POST
[22:28] <albert23> BUGabundo: workaround is in bug 302871
[22:28] <BUGabundo> at least I know have my kmail links/files/images working again
[22:28] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:29] <BUGabundo> bug is so nasty 304705
[22:29] <BUGabundo> bug 304705
[23:01] <BUGabundo> going home! have a nice weekend guys and galls
[23:01]  * BUGabundo mental notes unload network drivers and take a screen pic
[23:11] <duanedesign> Bug #307357 is a XVM bug. My mistake. It is not an Ubuntu bug and therefore please disregard the above wishlist request
[23:13] <duanedesign>  Bug #307377 the Importance of the bug should be set to 'Wishlist' by someone in the 'Bug Control' group, Thank You.
[23:14] <Palintheus> greg-g: allo
[23:15] <bddebian> Boo
[23:15] <greg-g> ello, that is a weird one.  do the various applications share a similar dictionary backedn?
[23:15] <greg-g> end
[23:16] <Palintheus> it's bug 307562, I've looked for a dupe and didn't find one but confused as to what it should be affecting, whether it's, libgtkspell, language-support-en, etc
[23:17] <greg-g> you know, I'm not sure about that, I know very little about the language packs, dictionaries, etc
[23:17] <Palintheus> greg-g: I've also cofirmed it in gedit and firfox
[23:17] <Palintheus> so should I just mark it as confirmed and comment that I could confirm for now?
[23:17] <greg-g> yeah. So the first thing we need to do is figure out if it is application specific or group of application specific (all depending on the same dictionary file, or something)
[23:18] <greg-g> sure, confirm it with a note which ones yo uhave confirned it in
[23:18] <Palintheus> k
[23:20] <hggdh> Palintheus, if you are willing, you can look at the package pre-reqs for what disctionaries are supported
[23:20] <Palintheus> where would I do that?
[23:21] <charlie-tca> duanedesign: I took care of it
[23:22] <hggdh> you can open Synaptic, seaarch for the package, and select Dependencies at the bottom
[23:22] <hggdh> but you have to have the package installed
[23:23] <Palintheus> when you say at the bottom, where? in the description? or...
[23:24] <Palintheus> found it in properties..
[23:24] <hggdh> arg!
[23:24] <hggdh> sorry, I was looking at it in French, and translated wrong
[23:24] <hggdh> Description, Général, Dépendances, etc
[23:25] <hggdh> hum
[23:25] <hggdh> *should* be dependencies
[23:26] <Palintheus> ok will look at that, not seeing any that I saw when looking for the spell check dictionaries
[23:27] <Palintheus> would this be it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libenchant1c2a
[23:28] <Palintheus> well that says it uses existing engines, hrm
[23:30] <Palintheus> hggdh: looking at the libenchant1c2a, that says it uses libaspell, so should I mark that as affecting Aspell?
[23:30] <hggdh> Palintheus, sounds a good bet,
[23:30] <Palintheus> cool, thanks
[23:31] <hggdh> Palintheus, could you reproduce it?
[23:32] <Palintheus> yes, in gedit and firefox
[23:32] <Palintheus> I commented that and changed it to confirmed, but wanted to see if I could do anything else
[23:32] <hggdh> cool. Then we are it confirmed for gedit and FF, at least
[23:32] <hggdh> but -- again -- the bug is not on them, but on the dictionary used.
[23:33] <Palintheus> right, so I'm going to add aspell-en as the packge
[23:33] <Palintheus> or just aspell?
[23:34] <hggdh> Difficult to say... each dictionary may have a not-completely-similar selection of words
[23:35] <Palintheus> ok, well I have both aspell and aspell-en installed
[23:35] <hggdh> so aspell is a better bet, and you mention you have confirmed it for aspell-en
[23:35] <Palintheus> will just do -en as it likely changes with different locales
[23:35] <Palintheus> oh
[23:35] <hggdh> it would be good to have 'Ubuntu' defined on all aspell languages
[23:37] <Palintheus> right
[23:37] <Rocket2DMn> Hi I'm looking at bug 307171 - I think it may need to be marked as a security vulnerability.  can anybody confirm the bug?
[23:38] <Palintheus> thanks hggdh and greg-g
[23:40] <greg-g> Palintheus: sure, no worries :)
[23:40] <Rocket2DMn> anybody?
[23:41] <charlie-tca> looking, Rocket2DMn
[23:41] <Rocket2DMn> thanks charlie-tca , i rarely ask for help with bugs in here, but i cant let a security bug pass
[23:42] <charlie-tca> Rocket2DMn: Marked as security issue
[23:42] <Rocket2DMn> oh ok charlie-tca , i was gonna do that, i was hoping somebody could confirm the bug for me tho
[23:43] <charlie-tca> I don´t have VPN set up here.
[23:43] <Rocket2DMn> alright, well thanks for looking
[23:44] <charlie-tca> Are the passwords stored clear-text or encrypted?
[23:44] <hggdh> Palintheus, welcome. You can always ask questions ;-)
[23:44] <Rocket2DMn> doesnt matter for that bug (i should hope encrypted, but you CAN store plain text passwords for vpnc).  thats a security issue b/c it saves passwords without you telling it to do so
[23:45] <hggdh> Rocket2DMn, is it a security issue or a privacy issue?
[23:45] <charlie-tca> Got it. I just didn´t read it right
[23:46] <Rocket2DMn> hggdh, i think security.  if somebody gains access to your system (legally or not) they can vpn to wherever your password is stored.  That is a SERIOUS concern
[23:46] <charlie-tca> hggdh: I think it is security, if it prefills the box with a remembered password.
[23:46] <Rocket2DMn> depending on what the owner VPNs into, i know too well what can be at stake there
[23:47] <hggdh> just asking... I agree this is wrong, and bad -- because it is remembering a password that was not to be remembered, and disregarding the use of secureId or similar
[23:47] <Rocket2DMn> +1 for SecureID
[23:48] <Rocket2DMn> even with such systems, its still a threat.  a physical device like a secuired chip is easily compromised
[23:51] <hggdh> this is where I am not sure... if I got hold of your system, powered on and unlocked, you have more serious issues than a not-to-be remembered password
[23:52] <Rocket2DMn> hggdh, other layers of security that may exist are not relevant, that is one layer that is compromised and it must be fixed
[23:52] <hggdh> but -- the consequences are clearly security-related: being locked out of the remote system *is* a DoS
[23:53] <Rocket2DMn> well, not so much getting locked out, but that functionality in vpn for other users is the real security thread - those that dont use new passwords for each session