[07:19] <didrocks> good morning
[07:21] <oSoMoN> good morning didrocks
[07:22] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, ça va ?
[07:36] <oSoMoN> didrocks, je me bats avec ma fille pour arriver à l’heure à l’école, à part ça ça va!
[07:36] <oSoMoN> et toi?
[08:09] <seb128> good morning desktopers, salut les frenchies
[08:17] <jibel> oSoMoN, congrats for your new ubuntu dev status
[08:21] <didrocks> oSoMoN: Martin est malade à nouveau: fièvre, rhume, etc. Bref, on prend l'habitude :)
[09:02] <Laney> morning
[09:03] <didrocks> good morning Laney
[09:05] <oSoMoN> morning Laney
[09:06] <oSoMoN> merci jibel !
[09:06] <oSoMoN> didrocks, courage!
[09:06] <oSoMoN> et salut seb128 :)
[09:07] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[09:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you today?
[09:07] <didrocks> oSoMoN: 'ci ;)
[09:09] <willcooke> morning all
[09:10] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you today?
[09:10] <willcooke> seb128, more window replacement today, so lots of noise but fun to see progress
[09:11] <Laney> hey didrocks oSoMoN seb128 willcooke
[09:11] <willcooke> and hopefully no more condensation in the mornings
[09:11] <willcooke> morning Laney
[09:11] <seb128> willcooke, :)
[09:11] <Laney> seb128: i'm allllllllllllllright
[09:11] <Laney> pretty windy out there
[09:12] <seb128> willcooke, so that systemd/resolved issue, do you want somebody to have a look or do we consider that x_nox&co are on it for now and just keep an eye to make sure it stays in active mode?
[09:12] <Laney> you?
[09:12] <seb128> windy here as well :-/
[09:12] <willcooke> seb128, just going through my mail, did anyone from there respond yet?
[09:12] <seb128> and the baby is still a bit sick, getting better though
[09:12] <seb128> willcooke, there was activity on the bug
[09:12]  * willcooke looks
[09:12] <seb128> but nothing conclusion from what I see
[09:13] <seb128> the dns server has some  issues nsure if that's enough to confuse the user stack
[09:14] <oSoMoN> hey willcooke
[09:16] <willcooke> morning oSoMoN, how was PTA?
[09:18] <oSoMoN> twas good, we had a very interesting conversation with other parents about superheroes, princesses and how to not curb our children's imagination and creativity
[09:18] <willcooke> excellent!
[09:19] <willcooke> Case in point:  Take toy guns away from kids and they'll use literally anything as a toy gun.  It's a tough one for sure
[09:19] <seb128> lol
[09:19] <oSoMoN> yeah, but at least if they use a stick as a toy gun there's some imagination involved :)
[09:20] <willcooke> :)
[09:28] <willcooke> seb128, doesnt look like anyone from Foundations has looked at that bug yet, so I think we see if x_nox_  or c_yphermox reply to the mail later on.  If not, then I think we need to escalate with them.  Seems like a systemd resolved issue to me.
[09:31] <seb128> right
[15:21] <clipcomp> https://youtu.be/qShbjKGb3j8 --------- Report on unboxed cam
[16:04] <andyrock> oh I just realized that 5 years ago I joined Canonical
[16:04] <andyrock> :D
[16:04] <andyrock> well kind of 6
[16:05] <mdeslaur> andyrock: congrats! :)
[16:13] <seb128> andyrock, congrats!
[16:15] <seb128> andyrock, if it's 6 it means new laptop time :)
[16:16] <andyrock> well for some reasons on the directory it says 5 years
[16:16] <andyrock> :D
[16:16] <andyrock> in the mean time I was able to boot my xps
[16:16] <seb128> did you change your contract type or something?
[16:16] <seb128> ah, dell fixed it?
[16:16] <andyrock> yep
[16:16] <andyrock> I did
[16:16] <willcooke> congrats andyrock
[16:16] <seb128> nice
[16:17] <seb128> oh ok
[16:17] <seb128> well done then :)
[16:17] <andyrock> I had to disassemble it part by part
[16:17] <seb128> what was the issue?
[16:17] <andyrock> and replace the AC jack
[16:17] <seb128> you have no dell waranty for it?
[16:17] <andyrock> I don't have the on place assistance
[16:17] <seb128> ah ok
[16:18] <andyrock> and waiting 3 months was not an option
[16:18] <andyrock> tomorrow I'll get the new battery and the new adapter
[16:18] <seb128> I though they considered the xps as a business line
[16:18] <andyrock> nope there is the new 5220
[16:18] <seb128> at least with latitude line laptops they come
[16:18] <andyrock> sorry 5520
[16:19] <andyrock> it's basically an xps but precision
[16:19] <andyrock> with pro support
[16:19] <seb128> k
[16:19] <seb128> nice
[16:19] <andyrock> and it comes with ubuntu too
[16:19] <andyrock> 5520
[16:19] <andyrock> http://www.dell.com/it/aziende/p/precision-15-5520-laptop/pd
[16:19] <andyrock> as an option at least
[16:20] <seb128> right
[17:58] <willcooke> night all
[21:08] <sarnold> seb128: hey, am I doing something wrong? unity7 on xenial, ctrl + super + w (DONT DO THIS) is supposed to show all the windows of the active application type, but immediately closes them when I hit it.. three times in the last three days I've accidently done this and killed my terminal with irc in it, and when trying to figure out what I kept doing, I managed to kill all three terminals and then the firefox open on that desktop
[22:02] <seb128> sarnold, urg, not known by me, maybe Trevinho has an idea what's going on
[22:02] <seb128> wfm (just tried with gedit)
[22:03] <sarnold> seb128: hrm, in my case it was three urxvt windows and one firefox window
[22:03] <seb128> no issue with firefox either
[22:03] <seb128> does it do it in a guest session?
[22:03] <sarnold> seb128: mdeslaur mentioned he could reproduce it ..
[22:04] <sarnold> will that log out my existing state?
[22:04] <seb128> shouldn't, unless you hit a kernel/video driver bug which is not impossible
[22:05] <sarnold> okay, that's fair odds :)
[22:07] <sarnold> seb128: perfect suggestion, I figured it out; _tapping_ ctrl + super + w brings up the windows fine, but if you hold down the key combo for a bit too long, the windows start to close
[22:08] <seb128> sarnold, k, that I can confirm :p
[22:08] <seb128> it switched to the next apps/group as well once it started
[22:08] <seb128> quite dangerous
[22:13] <sarnold> seb128: heh, is that whjat happened to your ex-chat instance? :)
[22:13] <sarnold> (sorry, was on the phone)
[22:13] <seb128> yes!
[22:13] <seb128> can you open a bug? I'm going to ask Trevinho or andyrock to have a look
[22:15] <sarnold> seb128: woot, thanks
[22:15] <seb128> thank you for raising up the issue and finding an easy way to trigger it
[22:15] <sarnold> hah. the apport window paints only C and i glyphs
[22:16] <sarnold> do I want to click 'no' button or 'yes' button? :) this is hilarious..
[22:16] <sarnold> perhaps one for afterlunch
[22:16] <sarnold> seb128: thanks for your help
[22:17] <seb128> np
[22:17] <seb128> on that note I call it a day
[22:17] <seb128> see you tomorrow


[02:24] <elky> AirNZ still managed to be in the cheaper range for flying over here with excess baggage when I moved.
[07:14] <hads> I fly Emirates when I get a choice these days.
[07:29] <Atamira> nationally or internationally?
[07:29] <Atamira> wait
[07:29] <Atamira> ignore that..they dont fly locally neway
[08:10] <chilts> must admit I haven't done JetStar yet, but am glad they're here (for the competition)
[08:10] <chilts> internationally I like the S.E. Asian airlines, I always find they're top notch
[08:10] <chilts> Emirates annoyed me when I flew with them (though that was 5 years ago)
[08:49] <hads> Avoid Jetstar
[09:37] <Atamira> emirates annyed me some time ago as well. but i dont really care..as long as it gets me there


[17:26] <stokachu> are all the charms being actively synced over to github or should i still use lp.net for the latest stuff?
[19:47] <rick_h_> stokachu: most of them are over in LP and loaded into the store.
[19:47] <rick_h_> stokachu: so you'll find the full repos there
[20:45] <stokachu> rick_h_: cool thanks


[05:00] <nhandler> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue221
[05:00] <nigelb> yay!
[05:03] <nhandler> :)
[06:08] <pleia2> nhandler: ^5
[06:13]  * holstein highfives nhandler & pleia2 :)
[06:13] <pleia2> woohoo :)
[06:14]  * pleia2 dinner &
[08:31] <NRWlion> good morning from germania
[16:59]  * pleia2 hugs MooDoo
[16:59] <MooDoo> hello pleia2 :) hugs
[17:00] <pleia2> so on a day to day basis, the news theam posts things to ubuntu-news.org as they are announced on mailing lists (releases, other important stuff), or what people drop by here and ask us to cross post news items from their blog (jono will do that from time to time)
[17:01] <MooDoo> ah
[17:01] <pleia2> we also keep an eye out for ubuntu related news in the wild and add it to https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfODlkODNxNnRnZA&hl=en when we find it to prep for the ubuntu weekly newsletter that's put together each weekend
[17:01] <pleia2> so on weekends we're all in here saying "we need to find more news!" "someone please write summaries!" etc
[17:01] <pleia2> :)
[17:02] <MooDoo> seems simple enough :)
[17:04] <pleia2> yep!
[17:25] <MrChrisDruif> I must be out in the weekends....never seen frantic looking for summaries :P
[17:31] <pleia2> yeah, you disconnect when you go away, it's weird ;)
[17:33] <NRWlion> hi folks
[17:34] <NRWlion> hey kennymc0
[17:54] <pleia2> pulled in the blueprint items from our UDS etherpad: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-news-team
[17:54] <pleia2> and I dropped akgraner a PM to see if she's still able to do her blueprint tasks, or if we have to reassign
[17:54] <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; I meant that I thought I've been around in the weekends....but nothing frantic went on :P, only yesterday :P
[17:55] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: yeah a browse of my logs shows you weren't around for when we were doing a lot of the work over the weekend
[17:55]  * MrChrisDruif is off, talk to ya later. And last weekend I've been away :P
[17:55]  * pleia2 is on west coast US time, so tends to work later in the day than others :)
[18:00] <NRWlion> pleia2: greetings from Europe (utc +2) ;)
[18:01] <pleia2> happy tuesday NRWlion :)
[18:01] <NRWlion> sweep the happy ...
[18:01] <NRWlion> long day and tomorrow will be too
[18:02] <NRWlion> and on thursday i have to do Emergency Duty :(
[18:04]  * NRWlion is heading offline for the sportsclub
[18:04] <NRWlion> cu guys tomorrow at university!
[21:48]  * NRWlion bounces into the channel and waves!


[00:02] <Zelut> erm, I get 'debugshell just booted' but I have no keyboard input..
[00:04] <Zelut> yeah, debugshell looks broken to me.. "sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[00:08] <Zelut> cjwatson: what would be the preferred way to run a command inside /target?  do I need to chroot /target; command(s) or...?
[00:10] <cjwatson> that's not broken
[00:10] <cjwatson> the can't access tty message is just a random warning, ignore it
[00:10] <cjwatson> well, ok, no keyboard input is broken :)
[00:10] <cjwatson> that might be due to using a USB keyboard
[00:10] <Zelut> I'd like to ignore it if my keyboard input would work
[00:11] <cjwatson> if so, plug in a PS/2 keyboard if you can
[00:11] <Zelut> i doubt I have one
[00:11] <cjwatson> generally use 'chroot /target command' (NO SEMICOLON) unless the command uses debconf; if the latter is the case then talk to me
[00:11] <cjwatson> well, it's possible to build a new initrd but that's a whole lot more work
[00:12] <Zelut> the reason I ask about the chroot is it would likely be simple to just run ufw commands directly to allow for the services in kickstart
[00:12] <Zelut> if its not possible I'd have to do a bunch of sed nonsense..
[00:32] <Zelut> cjwatson: ok, I've updated firewall.sh to use "chroot /target ufw allow <service>".  I notice you have --high, --medium, --dhcp listed as well but I don't see those on the kickstart documentation as valid?
[00:40] <CIA-1> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2679 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[00:40] <CIA-1> ubiquity: Add ubiquity-dm implementation for matchbox-window-manager (thanks,
[00:40] <CIA-1> ubiquity: Patrick Hétu; see LP #159363).
[01:01] <Zelut> cjwatson: I'm going to call it a day.  I sent you my changes to firewall.sh for testing.
[01:08] <cjwatson> thanks
[01:08] <cjwatson> you can't run ufw in the handler directly, though you can register a post_firewall function
[01:09] <cjwatson> (because the handlers themselves are run long before /target exists)
[01:29] <CIA-1> debian-installer-utils: cjwatson * r656 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.57ubuntu1
[02:13] <Zelut> cjwatson:  that makes sense. likely based on my limited knowlege of how it all falls together
[08:05] <superm1> evand, when --automatic is invoked, ok_handler doesn't get called at all right?,  just the run(self,priority,question) of each page
[13:00] <xivulon> evand, we have collected quite a stack of fix committed, can push fixes into the releases?
[13:01] <xivulon> plan being that we release first fixes external to wubi, then we test wubi on new ISOs, then we get approval for new Wubi
[13:01] <xivulon> here is a list of relevant non-wubi fixes http://paste.ubuntu.com/10907/
[13:04] <xivulon> the ones left out are 225593 and 222546
[13:04] <xivulon> to be addressed by myself/seb128 and lamont respectively
[13:56] <Zelut> cjwatson: ok, got your email and I'm revisiting my obvious mistake.
[14:14] <evand> superm1: correct
[14:14] <evand> xivulon: ack'ed
[14:15] <xivulon> thx
[15:42] <HopsNBarley> hi gang - i'm writing a package.  ideally, i'd like the postinst to create/populate a mysql database.  this deb works fine, *except* when it gets run via my preseed.cfg file.  any guidelines/clues/hints on how to handle this?
[15:59] <Zelut> cjwatson: I notice in auth.sh you're rewriting a conf file which is put in place in the POSTPOOL.  Considering I'm trying to run commands what is your suggestion on handling it?
[16:00] <cjwatson> POSTSPOOL is just for the early handler to leave notes for the post-handler later on
[16:00] <cjwatson> you can run whatever you like in the post-handler
[16:03] <Zelut> I guess my difficulty is not seeing how/where those tie together.
[16:11] <cjwatson> Zelut: basically the early handlers run before just about anything else in the installer; the post-handlers run from finish-install right at the end
[16:13] <Zelut> cjwatson: I'm using auth.sh as an example, you create $POSTPOOL/auth.handler and then populate the files with the variables and then dump those into /target in auth_post()
[16:15] <Zelut> cjwatson: assuming I'm reading it right that is..  If I were to follow a similar setup is it as simple as doing a test? if [ -f $POSTPOOL/firewall.handler/ssh ]; then run ufw command?
[16:16] <Zelut> cjwatson: basically create the dir and files in the case statement, as is done in auth.sh, and then in the _post() check for those files and run the commands as needed?
[16:18] <cjwatson> sure, that sort of approach would be fine
[16:18] <cjwatson> you'll need to spell $POSTSPOOL correctly though ;-)
[16:19] <cjwatson> also it's a good habit to always quote shell variable expansions unless you have a good reason not to, so [ -f "$POSTSPOOL/firewall.handler/ssh" ]
[16:19] <Zelut> of course.  I take many code-shortcuts in IRC
[16:20] <cjwatson> I just say 'cos it's a common thing I end up correcting in patches, that's all :)
[16:20] <cjwatson> no offence intended
[16:21] <Zelut> ok, I think I have the hang of it.. let me give it another try.
[16:30] <Zelut> cjwatson: best way to handle errors? ie; ufw enable || echo "something broke".  send via logger?
[16:34] <cjwatson> feeding errors to the warn function is about the best you have :-/
[17:04] <Zelut> cjwatson: ok, just about done.. do I still need to run commands in chroot /target?
[17:05] <cjwatson> yeah
[17:25] <Zelut> cjwatson: ok, let me send you another revision.
[17:49] <HopsNBarley> any help on the mysql at install time question?
[17:49] <HopsNBarley> i've googled myself to death on this.
[17:50] <cjwatson> HopsNBarley: (I have to go in a minute, but) posting /var/log/syslog from the installation, along with your preseed file minus any passwords, would help
[17:50] <cjwatson> /var/log/installer/syslog if you have a completed installation post-reboot
[17:53] <HopsNBarley> is there a preferred pastebin for this room?
[17:53] <HopsNBarley> cjwatson, thanks.
[17:54] <evand> HopsNBarley: Nope, any pastebin will do.
[17:56] <cjwatson> I normally use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:57] <HopsNBarley> great.  pastbin.ca just killed my firefox!
[17:57]  * HopsNBarley starts over.
[17:58] <HopsNBarley> here's the error message in the syslog:   in-target: : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[17:58] <HopsNBarley> just prior to this, the postinst ran:  invoke-rc.d mysql start
[17:59] <HopsNBarley> my intuition is that the chrooted environment isn't yet completely made enough to run mysql.
[17:59] <HopsNBarley> missing /proc, for example?  I don't know yet.
[17:59] <HopsNBarley> Again, this deb works fine "normally" outside of the installer.
[18:01] <cjwatson> oh, right, I understand better now
[18:01] <cjwatson> the installer deliberately disables starting up services
[18:02] <HopsNBarley> okay, that seems a reasonable thing for it to do... so what's the workaround?   surely some other packages have this issue.
[18:02] <cjwatson> since normally it isn't appropriate
[18:02] <cjwatson> actually, I've not encountered this before ...
[18:03] <cjwatson> are you just feeding this into pkgsel/include?
[18:03] <HopsNBarley> what if it moved installation of the package to the late_script?
[18:03] <cjwatson> late_script?
[18:03] <Zelut> HopsNBarley: I've done a hack before where I've added a script to be called in rc.local so it finished on reboot..
[18:03] <Zelut> likely not the best solution however
[18:04] <cjwatson> so, if you did it in preseed/late_command, then that would work provided that (a) you don't need to interact with debconf, (b) you start up the mysql server manually and tear it down again at the end, and (c) you use chroot /target rather than in-target
[18:04] <HopsNBarley> cjwatson, the package is added like so:  d-i pkgsel/include string debconf-utils openssh-server apache2-mpm-prefork myapp
[18:04] <cjwatson> otherwise Zelut's solution is actually not all that unreasonable (though certainly not elegant :-) )
[18:06] <HopsNBarley> cjwatson, could you briefly explain (a) ??
[18:06] <cjwatson> if it needs explaining, it doesn't apply to you
[18:06] <HopsNBarley> (-;
[18:06] <Zelut> lol
[18:06] <cjwatson> got to go
[18:07] <HopsNBarley> hey, THANKS!
[18:07] <HopsNBarley> one more, while ya'll are on the line: d-i base-installer/excludes doesn't seem to work.  i saw a bug on this.
[18:08] <HopsNBarley> this is gutsy.
[18:12] <HopsNBarley> thanks also Zelut.
[19:38] <Zelut> cjwatson: do you have a list of completed kickstart compatible items?  I'm thinking about seeing what else I can knock out for Intrepid.
[21:56] <tormod> evand, xivulon: hi, I am done with bug #136682.
[21:58] <xivulon> hi tormod, yes I have already told evand early on today :)
[21:58] <cjwatson> Zelut: ISTR I put a list of incomplete bits in the installation guide
[21:58] <xivulon> it's in the list of the fixes that require approval and hopefully will be in new ISOs soon
[21:59] <xivulon> thanks again, that was really helpful
[21:59] <cjwatson> HopsNBarley: err, there's no such question ...
[22:02] <cjwatson> HopsNBarley: as in, doesn't work because it doesn't exist :-) What documentation recommended that?


[04:38] <xubuntu26d>  My xubunto not boot after restart it someone help ?.
[05:36] <Valchik921> Hi all!
[12:23] <calico> which is the best light weight PDF reader?
[12:24] <calico> I used SumatraPDF on windows which was pretty good but it's nit available for linux
[12:24] <knome> evince is installed by default
[12:25] <calico> Thanks! I cleaned up anything I deemed unnecessary for now after installing :))


[07:17] <luna> Listening to todays Security Podcast episode now, while doing some Ubuntu work at work


[00:01] <Joit> it actually executes 2 commands in a row
[00:03] <Mandy089> Oh that makes since.Well alright. Thanks for all your help Joit and Daskreech. Have a good night.
[00:25] <DemonWitch> hey how can i change at grub the video driver ( i want to choose vesa by changing the kernel line)
[00:28] <Joit> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer
[00:49] <Daskreech> DemonWitch I think so
[01:22] <pawan> hi
[01:22] <pawan> wired connection not working
[01:22] <pawan> no active
[03:09] <freedog> hello
[03:11] <freedog> performanc reduction with kde-winwowmanger-gles, its paint black splotches in the screen. Regualr Kwin did now. Synaptic will not in-install "gless" so i can go back to just plain "KWin"
[03:12] <freedog> un-install
[03:13] <freedog> performanc re-gression  with kde-winwowmanger-gles, its paints black splotches in the screen. Regualr Kwin did now. Synaptic will not un-install "gless" so i can go back to just plain "KWin".
[03:19] <Daskreech> hi freedog
[03:19] <freedog> hi
[03:19] <Daskreech> freedog: kwin --replace
[03:20] <freedog> but i dont want to do that on every start up
[03:24] <freedog> no solutions
[03:24] <freedog> ?
[03:25] <Daskreech> freedog: how did you set gles as your default windowmanager?
[03:26] <freedog> intstleed iti with synatpic, synaptic set it as so
[03:45] <mr0wl> what's the meta package for kde telepathy?
[03:50] <freedog> kwin --replace will not set kwin to the defalt manger at ever start up will it?
[03:51] <freedog> id really like to remove gle completly
[03:51] <freedog> KDE glesd
[04:03] <Daskreech> freedog: sorry went off for a while
[04:03] <Daskreech> freedog: alt+F2 -> Default applications -> set what you like
[04:03] <Daskreech> If you want to remove gles presuming that you pulled it in from a PPA or so just apt-get remove ---purge it
[04:04] <Daskreech> Or leave
[05:17] <tusharthantharat> Hi Guys
[05:18] <tusharthantharat> I have an debain/ubuntu iso... what i did was i unzipped it made some changes and again converted back it into iso
[05:18] <tusharthantharat> but it is not working
[05:20] <tusharthantharat> anybody? i am really stuck ..
[05:20] <tusharthantharat> any help
[05:22] <tusharthantharat> Also i want to change the login banner.... i know the way to do it after installation but i want to add the static Ascii Art text in the instllation itself
[05:22] <tusharthantharat> so that i dont need to make those chnages on clients machine
[05:24] <tusharthantharat> guys anybody out der?
[05:27] <16WAASN71> ??
[05:28] <tusharthantharat> Hi Guys
[05:28] <tusharthantharat> instantp10neer (~instantp1@unaffiliated/instantp10neer) has joined #kubuntu
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[05:28] <tusharthantharat> I have an debain/ubuntu iso... what i did was i unzipped it made some changes and again converted back it into iso
[05:28] <tusharthantharat> but it is not working
[05:28] <FloodBotK1> tusharthantharat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[06:23] <msx> hey folks! anybode knows how to *fuck1ng* start amarok minimized!?
[06:25] <Tm_T> !language | msx
[08:54] <eagles0513875> hey guys im in user management and for some reason im trying to modify a group name and its not letting me type in the name that I want. how can i rectify the situation
[09:00] <ikonia> eagles0513875: can you expand on that,
[09:00] <ikonia> eagles0513875: are you trying to change an existing groups name ?
[09:00] <eagles0513875> i have a group that has only 1001 no group name
[09:00] <eagles0513875> i have to run really fast be back in about 20 min
[09:00] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok, so that's a gid not a group name
[09:01] <eagles0513875> ikonia: it has a gid but no group name
[09:01] <ikonia> correct, that's what I've just said
[09:01] <ikonia> it's a gid, not a group name
[09:01] <ikonia> so you can't change a gid into a group name
[09:01] <ikonia> the reason it has a gid and not a name, is because the group that WAS 1001 has been removed, the 1001 is a reference pointer to what was there
[09:01] <eagles0513875> cuz in the user management there is a colum in groups that is for group name
[09:01] <ikonia> there is no group to rename
[09:01] <eagles0513875> i recreated the user with the same id
[09:02] <ikonia> you'd need to add a group using the gid 1001
[09:02] <ikonia> the user has nothing to do with the group
[09:02] <eagles0513875> humm ok
[09:02] <ikonia> add a group (any name you want) using a gid of 1001 and the problem will be resolved
[09:38] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im a bit confused the user id is going to have the same gid which wont have a name right
[09:38] <ikonia> the userid is nothing to do with the gid,
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ikonia: do you mind if i screen shot you
[09:41] <ikonia> yeah, if you want
[09:44] <eagles0513875> ikonia: http://imagebin.org/220601
[09:44] <eagles0513875> shouldnt i be able to change the group name?
[09:44] <ikonia> eagles0513875: grep 1001 /etc/group
[09:45] <eagles0513875> ::1001:jonathan
[09:45] <ikonia> eagles0513875: right, so there is no group
[09:45] <ikonia> however you are a member of it
[09:45] <ikonia> I'm not sure how you've done this
[09:45] <ikonia> what was group 1001 ?
[09:45] <eagles0513875> ikonia: automatically was created when i created the other user jaquilina
[09:45] <eagles0513875> is 1001 safe to remove?
[09:46] <ikonia> hang on
[09:46] <ikonia> a group called 1001 doesn't automatically get created when you create a user
[09:47] <eagles0513875> ikonia: so its safe to create a new group and remove 1001
[09:47] <ikonia> I would suggest removing jonathan from the group and then removing the line from /etc/group
[09:47] <kim> i've read the news about kde telepathy... i'm using it for few months now... for 12.10 i'd suggest 0.5, 0.4 is still missing some stuff (I couldn't make skype working with it, doesn't hide clicking on the icon and others)
[09:47] <ikonia> removing the 1001 will not cause a problem as it's worthless now
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ok i removed the user jonathan from that group since jonathan is my main user
[09:48] <ikonia> I would then remove that group as it is worthless and will cause you confusion going forward
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ill create a new group called users
[09:48] <ikonia> that should already exist
[09:48] <ikonia> users is normally a default group on most systems
[09:49] <ikonia> normally a low gid reserved, 80 - 100
[09:49] <ikonia> somewhere in that range
[09:49] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:49] <eagles0513875> well i called it project_users
[09:49] <ikonia> call it what you want, names are not important, the gid's are
[09:49] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:52] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i have a project in the home directory of /home/jaquilina and i am trying to open the python files in eric and they are opening as read only
[09:52] <eagles0513875> what am i missing to make them to where the user jonathan can access them and have rw access
[09:52] <ikonia> eagles0513875: er......that's a basic permissions setup
[09:52] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you can make them read/write/execute depend on the permissions you set on them
[10:09] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im a bit lost with the permissions
[10:09] <eagles0513875> i have both users in the group project_users
[10:10] <ikonia> eagles0513875: and what is the permissions on the files you want to open
[10:12] <eagles0513875> ikonia: directories are drwxrwxr-x files are -rw-rw-r--
[10:12] <eagles0513875> user is jaquilina group is project_users which contain both users
[10:13] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please show me "ls -la" on one of the files you are trying to open
[10:13] <eagles0513875> ikonia: -rw-rw-r-- 1 jaquilina project_users 3502 Jul 13 12:09 /home/jaquilina/intradev/clients/models.py
[10:14] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please show me the output of the command "id jaquilina"
[10:14] <eagles0513875> ikonia: uid=1001(jaquilina) gid=1002(jaquilina) groups=1002(jaquilina),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),46(plugdev),107(scanner),109(lpadmin),1000(jonathan),121(sambashare),1001(project_users)
[10:15] <ikonia> eagles0513875: so if you "vi/nano/whatever /home/jaquilina/intradev/clients/models.py" as jaquilina can you write to the file ?
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i can write to the file no problem as jaquilina
[10:15] <eagles0513875> but i cant as jonathan
[10:15] <eagles0513875> i do sudo login jaquilina on command line and then access the file no problems
[10:15] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please show me the output of the command "id jonathan"
[10:16] <eagles0513875> ikonia: uid=1000(jonathan) gid=1000(jonathan) groups=1000(jonathan),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),121(sambashare),1001(project_users)
[10:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: exit the shell as jonathan and start a new one
[10:16] <eagles0513875> done
[10:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: if the shell was running before you change the permissions to add jonathan it won't work
[10:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: try now
[10:17] <eagles0513875> lets say im using an ide would i need to log out and back in
[10:17] <eagles0513875> command line is working
[10:17] <ikonia> eagles0513875: yes, as that ide would have been launched as the shell before you changed the permissions
[10:17] <eagles0513875> ok well let me try it out and apologies for such a trivial question :( i dont mess about with permissions that often
[10:17] <eagles0513875> brb
[10:18] <ikonia> eagles0513875: not a problem to help, no need to apologies, just keep in mind, you are advertising yourself as a professional Linux systems administrator, this is basic stuff you should be able to deal with
[10:25] <eagles0513875> ikonia: agreed and that did the trick btw :)
[10:25] <ikonia> great
[10:26] <eagles0513875> ikonia: what i forgot was that one needs to either log out and back in to have the permissions re sourced by apps or restart the terminal
[10:26] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with logging out/back in
[10:26] <ikonia> it's to do with what was active when you made the change
[10:27] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i have another issue that with certain apps im using the standard kde desktop layout, but apps arent fitting to the screen when maximized :-/ so in this one app i have a partial menus and a very small canvas to view the files code :(
[10:27] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok, so is this one appliation or many
[10:27] <eagles0513875> so far only one that i have seen
[10:28] <eagles0513875> another one with the netbook layout but that is a know bug upstream is aware of
[10:28] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok so it's "one app" not "certain apps"
[10:28] <eagles0513875> ikonia: right now just the one
[10:29] <ikonia> eagles0513875: which application is it ?
[10:29] <eagles0513875> eric python ide
[10:29] <eagles0513875> one thing that does pop up is about an updated version
[10:29] <ikonia> is that from the ubuntu repos ? or an external one
[10:29] <eagles0513875> ubuntu repos
[10:29] <ikonia> !info eric
[10:29] <ikonia> (what's the package name)
[10:29] <ikonia> ahhh that it is
[10:29] <ikonia> eagles0513875: is that the version you're using ?
[10:30] <eagles0513875> correct
[10:30] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I would log a bug on that (remember what we said about how to log a bug, the details, not pesting individuals etc)
[10:31] <ikonia> the resizing thing won't be (probably) a config issue, it will be a problem with the actual application
[10:31] <ikonia> (especially if it's just on maximise)
[10:32] <eagles0513875> ok but there is a dialogue that popped up the first time i ran it saying there is a new version and if i want to download it which i didnt. is that something that should be allowed to pop up
[10:32] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I guess (and it is just a guess) it depends on how it downloads/what it downloads
[10:33] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I suspect it will just take you to the projects home page rather than actually download a package
[10:33] <ikonia> I'd certainly include that in the bug report
[10:36] <eagles0513875> ya quite a few newer versions of eric out
[10:36] <eagles0513875> 4.5.4 is the latest stable
[10:37] <ikonia> eagles0513875: that doesn't mean it's compatible/usable with the current kde setup though
[10:38] <ikonia> so upgrading is not always the best option, that's why I'd include that in the bug fix
[10:38] <eagles0513875> agreed
[10:38] <eagles0513875> was also going to file a request to have the version bumped for 12.10
[10:38] <ikonia> why file that request ?
[10:38] <ikonia> why ?
[10:44] <eagles0513875> ikonia: why not? im sure latest version has lots of bug fixes etc
[10:44] <ikonia> why don't you let the people who build/maintain the packages decide.
[10:45] <ikonia> are you suggesting that they are not considering the best package available ?
[10:45] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you are blindly requesting an update to a package without any understanding or reason beyond "it's newer"
[10:45] <ikonia> it may require later dependencies, it may need config changes to work as things change, why don't you let the guys who build the release each time make educated decisions based on experience
[10:46] <ikonia> rather than "it's later"
[10:46] <eagles0513875> fine
[10:46]  * eagles0513875 goes back to debugging python unit tests
[10:47]  * ikonia has asked eagles to stop with the /me commands of what you are doing all the time
[10:52]  * Smurphy asks ikonia why he;she asked eagles0513875 to stop using the /me command ?
[10:53] <ikonia> Smurphy: because it's constant and no relevence to the channel
[10:53]  * Smurphy disagrees with ikonia
[10:53]  * Smurphy .oO(this is freedom of speech)
[10:53] <Smurphy> :}
[10:54] <Smurphy> sorry - couldn't resist.
[10:55] <ikonia> it's fine
[10:55] <ikonia> and this channel isn't "freedom of speach"
[10:56] <Smurphy> ah. Ok. so you are a person wanting to abuse the small powers given to you ? Fine by me
[10:56] <Tm_T> allright, let's get back to the channel topic
[10:57] <Smurphy> FYI - I belong to the old school, having started with KDE pre-1 and having done also the entire french translation at that time.
[10:57] <Tm_T> if someone wants to continue offtopic discussion, the channel topic contains the direction
[10:57] <Smurphy> Another one ... wanting to control...
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:37] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[11:47] <BluesKaj> 'morning mydogsnameisrudy
[12:13] <basoke> Hello does anyone have any experience setting up a multi-seat Kubuntu?
[15:08] <Daskreech> basoke: Just checking that's one install with multiple terminals?
[15:08] <Daskreech> hi mydogsnameisrudy and BluesKaj
[15:08] <basoke> Yes, one install, with multiple terminals.
[15:10] <basoke> Daskreech: yes, I've presently got 4 monitors going and want to have one pair controlled by separate inputs with a separate login etc. I've heard about multiseat setups. but couldn't find any reliable starting point.
[15:10] <Daskreech> basoke: Ah I remember a good tutorial for Fedora when the last one came out. Should be pretty similar
[15:11] <Daskreech> Possibly check in #edubuntu as well since those are more common in Education Institutes
[15:12] <basoke> Daskreech: alright, I'll see if that helps, thanks a bunch :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hey Daskreech
[15:20] <natman> RE: http://www.kubuntu.org/ktp-0.4 does anyone know will testing, muck up my current kopete set up?
[15:33] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[15:33] <a3243591> hi
[16:23] <Daskreech> natman: It won't they are very independent
[16:23] <Daskreech> hi phoenix_firebrd
[16:26] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: hi
[16:28] <Daskreech> y:)
[16:30] <genii-around> Daskreech: Did you happen to see how mandy434 from yesterday made out after I left ? It looked like somehow she had added herself to root users, or some other very odd issue. I was just curious if joit or some other finally managed to help.
[16:30] <Daskreech> genii-around: she had removed +x on her ~
[16:31] <genii-around> Daskreech: Weird... I would not think that would cause some symptom like "whoami" reporting "mandy" but touch file; ls -l file showing root owner...
[16:36] <Daskreech> genii-around: I would have guessed that's from a sudo touch
[16:38] <genii-around> Daskreech: It was very puzzling at the time
[16:39] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: did you irc logs?
[16:39] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: did you check the irc logs?
[16:39] <genii-around> phoenix_firebrd: Not yet, I may later when I have time
[16:39] <Daskreech> genii-around: even funnier her name is Mandy (not the caps)
[16:40] <Daskreech> note
[16:41]  * genii-around sips his coffee and ponders
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> my kde version is 4.8.90
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> my dolphin version is 4.8.95
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> why is this mismatch
[16:45] <phoenix_firebrd> i have enabled beta backports
[16:46] <Joit> well, i think its a comon problem that some peoples dont understand, that others dont want to become experts at her OS, just use it, because they have other things to do. Thats when some from these errors happen
[16:48] <phoenix_firebrd> muon shows dolphins installed version as 4.8.90
[16:57] <home> hi
[16:57] <phoenix_firebrd> hi
[16:57] <home> hi
[16:57] <home> hellp
[16:57] <home> hello
[17:00] <home> Can you guys give me some irc address???
[17:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> home:  were do you want to go
[17:04] <home> i'm new to irc
[17:04] <home> so
[17:04] <home> some other irc groups
[17:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> what do you have now
[17:05] <home> whot?
[17:05] <home> here in this kubuntu room
[17:05] <phoenix_firebrd> home: are you using quassel?
[17:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> nm you are on just kubuntu
[17:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> #kubuntuofftopic  #ubuntu #kde
[17:06] <Guest20750> any links for kde cutomization or kubuntu tips??
[17:06] <BluesKaj> home, go to http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/networks/servers/
[17:07] <home> thanks
[17:11] <sweetofserbia> Good day, can someone help me with a free unlocking code for "Blackberry" please?
[17:11] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: This isn't a channel about phones
[17:11] <home> blackberry?
[17:12] <home> try to reset
[17:12] <sweetofserbia> I know, but...
[17:13] <sweetofserbia> home I try ut phone is locked
[17:13] <viktor> hi
[17:13] <viktor> i wanna play minecraft
[17:14] <viktor> i execute the program and it run
[17:14] <viktor> but when i want to play the window turn black...
[17:14] <home> oh sweet
[17:14] <home> um...
[17:14] <home> wait
[17:14] <home> let me find
[17:15] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: There are dozens of places to bring your phone in person and have them unlock it for about $20-30 USD. Each phone has a different unlock code so there's nothing useful we can tell you here about it. Also this is not a support channel for phones.
[17:15] <sweetofserbia> Ok thank you a lot
[17:15] <viktor> alguien español que pueda ayudarme?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> !es
[17:16] <viktor>  /join #ubuntu-es"
[17:16] <sweetofserbia> <genii-around Thank you, yes you say that afew ,minuts ago
[17:16] <viktor>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:17] <sweetofserbia> I was write for a free not to pay
[17:17] <sweetofserbia> I know for a pay, but you dont reed good
[17:18] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: Do you have some question about your Kubuntu we can answer?
[17:20] <sweetofserbia> <genii-around If you don know about somehing,   you dont must to write
[17:20] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: It is part of my job to make sure that people are using the channel for Kubuntu questions. You are not asking Kubuntu questions. Additionally, after being asked NOT to ask, you continue.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !rs | sweetofserbia
[17:21] <home> #sweettalk
[17:22] <BluesKaj> they'll get the message across and tell hin where to go :)
[17:22] <genii-around> Hopefully :-)
[17:24] <sweetofserbia> Noooooooooooooooo, I say you ok but     you continue <genii-around.
[17:25]  * genii-around sips
[17:32] <phoenix_firebrd> in the debian control file what should i put for section  for kmix?
[17:58] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: Did you try asking the channel #blackberry yet?
[17:59] <sweetofserbia> What?
[18:02] <qw_> help me please
[18:02] <qw_> my aunt doesn't hear me on Skype I it I hear and it isn't present me
[18:03] <sweetofserbia> <genii-around YES
[18:04] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: OK.
[18:07] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, make sure that "Capture " is activated in Kmix's main control panel
[18:07] <qw_> were is it?
[18:08] <qw_> please path me
[18:08] <ArchangelSe7en> and that all the "input" sliders are at their highest position
[18:08] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, you see the speaker on your panel
[18:08] <ArchangelSe7en> to the right ?
[18:09] <qw_> i see multimediya
[18:09] <ArchangelSe7en> click on it and then click , mixer ?
[18:09] <ArchangelSe7en> wait
[18:09] <ArchangelSe7en> Multimedia ?
[18:09] <qw_> yes
[18:09] <qw_> end
[18:10] <ArchangelSe7en> click "Mixer"
[18:10] <ArchangelSe7en> make sure all th sliders are shown
[18:10] <ArchangelSe7en> including the "input" ones
[18:11] <ArchangelSe7en> you should see a slider labeled "Capture"
[18:11] <ArchangelSe7en> activate that
[18:14] <qw_> yes i am see
[18:14] <qw_> Capture and Capture 2
[18:14] <ArchangelSe7en> activate those and test them , one at a time
[18:14] <ArchangelSe7en> should work
[18:14] <qw_> nothing
[18:15] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, open terminal , type "alsamixer" , hit F4
[18:15] <ArchangelSe7en> slide those all the way up and unmute any muted ones
[18:16] <ArchangelSe7en> good luck with that , I must go
[18:16] <qw_> http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1207/e1/6912d7a44a6f.jpg
[18:17] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, the Mic seems to be musted
[18:17] <ArchangelSe7en> that must be whats wrong
[18:18] <qw_> what shall I do?
[18:18] <ArchangelSe7en> use your arrow key to slide it upward
[18:18] <ArchangelSe7en> keys*
[18:18] <ArchangelSe7en> ayt gotta go
[18:22] <qw_> =(
[18:31] <qw_> didn't work
[18:31] <qw_> (
[18:44] <qw_> ITS WORK
[18:44] <genii-around> Hm
[18:45] <cypher-neo> qw_: Also. keep in mind that the "Skype Call Testing Service" is there so you can test your mic and audio setup before you end up aggravating your aunt. ;p
[18:45] <qw_> цщкл
[18:46] <qw_> soory
[18:46] <qw_> work
[18:46] <FloodBotK1> qw_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <Eagle222> hallo?
[19:22] <cypher-neo> Hello Eagle222
[19:22] <Eagle222> ah ich bin doch verbunden
[19:23] <genii-around> !de
[19:24] <Eagle222> ok
[20:33] <solifugus> How can I disable or desensitize my notebook's stupid scratchpad?
[20:33] <solifugus> htf invented scratchpads and who can I hire to kill him/her?
[20:34] <jsubl2> solifugus: have you tried System Settings - input devices.  there are some settings there
[20:36] <solifugus> it is there... looked before and just looked at it again.. I don't see anything to disable or de-sensitive it, in there.....
[20:37] <solifugus> and it's hard to type with the cursor randomly jumping all over...
[20:38] <solifugus> I am still using my desktop to code... until i solve this problem, it's not reasonably possible to code or write much on this new notebook..
[20:44] <solifugus> I slowed the cursors movement a bit and disabled the text drag n drop.. that helps somewhat..
[20:44] <Lymphocyte> how can i object to something kubuntu?
[20:44] <Lymphocyte> object to calligra word in kubuntu 12.10?
[20:45] <genii-around> Hm
[20:46] <mileq> h..mmm
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> whats the default-installed network manager
[22:11] <Riddell> networkmanager is
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  using...?  plasma-widget-networkmanager?
[22:11]  * TheLordOfTime is looking for the exact package name
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> or rather plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[22:13] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: yes the UI .deb is plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  has anyone reported a bug in WPA enterprise authentication where it doesnt work?
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> someone's in #ubuntu saying so, but i cant find an exact bug
[22:18] <genii-around> When the SSID is hidden maybe
[22:19] <TheLordOfTime> genii-around:  link to bug?
[22:20]  * TheLordOfTime is trying to find whether a currently filed bug exists for the issue the user is saying
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> should i just tell them to go do `ubuntu-bug` for the program
[22:20] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: bugs in networkmanager are tricky because it could be the frontend, the backend or the linux drivers and bugs can be reported in ubuntu or the upstream project
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> just so they can say "I filed a bug"
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  tell me about it, i see crap like that hitting the announcements channel for bugs *daily*
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> and figuring out where they go is REALLY DAMNED HARD
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[22:21] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: browse away https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Network%20Management
[22:22] <genii-around> The one I was thinking of might be this old one here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanagement/+bug/422174
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  i personally only contribute to *truly* targetting and fixing bugs related to nginx, but that's because i help upstream those.  personally, GUI related bugs are just *evil*.  and don't get me started on crash bugs.  just don't.
[22:23]  * TheLordOfTime would rant for an hour if you did
[22:26] <genii-around> You already got an !ot in #ubuntu, don't go for one in here! ;-)
[23:13] <dougl> my effects (wobbly windows and cube) quit working - how do I restart my x server without rebooting
[23:14] <genii-around> dougl: Perhaps try just turning the effects on with alt-shift-f12  ...they may have been turned off for using too much resources by the system


[01:29] <arraybolt3> Anyone here a moderator of Ubuntu discourse? Need someone to clean up this mess: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/trying-out-ubuntu-23-04-on-x86-64-v3-rebuild-for-yourself/40963/15
[01:29] <arraybolt3> Can't report it right this second, using wrong computer
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:40] <sarnold> I can't tell if there's a mess still there that needs handling or not
[04:17] <arraybolt3> sarnold: The script linked to looks alarming and dangerous, and the person makes absolutely no sense and is totally off-topic.
[04:18] <arraybolt3> It looks like some sort of something for BlackArch, which isn't even close to Ubuntu.
[04:19] <sarnold> this is a gross script even if it's legit
[04:19] <arraybolt3> lol ikr?
[04:19] <sarnold> find | grep blah | xargs rm etc
[04:19] <sarnold> there's a find -delete JUST RIGHT THERE
[04:19] <arraybolt3> but I think rm -rf on files in /usr/lib/firmware is a Bad Idea.
[04:19] <arraybolt3> I think it's supposed to be some sort of ISO prep script or... something? idk, I'm half-tempted to run it in a VM just to see how badly it blows up the whole machine.
[04:22] <arraybolt3> lol, it seems to try to convert all images from somewhere into greyscale
[04:23] <sarnold> good for saving bytes for your floppy or something, right?
[04:23] <arraybolt3> this is either malware OR a very specialized system prep script that probably only works for one particular setup and only if you don't look at it cross-eyed.
[04:26] <arraybolt3> sarnold: want me to try running it in a VM?
[04:27] <sarnold> arraybolt3: only if you're *really* curious -- it's probably some silly prep for a very low resource live image of blackarch or something like that
[04:27] <arraybolt3> I'm mainly curious to see if it causes a system to become unbootable. If it does, that would be sufficient reason to remove it from the forum IMO.
[04:27] <arraybolt3> I have a fancy ephemeral VM creator script that makes this kind of thing easy.
[04:35] <arraybolt3> ah, the script is set to exit on error.
[04:35] <arraybolt3> So running it with sudo does nothing on an Ubuntu system because the first file it tries to remove doesn't exist.
[04:35] <arraybolt3> Of course I let my curiosity lead me to disable that setting and run it with sudo anyway :P
[04:37] <arraybolt3> yeah so it nuked almost everything out of /usr/include.
[04:38] <sarnold> which is kind of fine for a live image if you never want to build anything
[04:38] <arraybolt3> exactly
[04:38] <arraybolt3> so... probably not intentionally malicious, but definitely not good for users to run randomly.
[04:40] <arraybolt3> There's no immediately visible damage other than that, and I've lost interest now that it's not turned all my wallpapers gray, rendered the system unbootable, or changed my font to something weird, so... yeah. Unsafe, yes, but not necessarily the end of the world.
[04:40]  * arraybolt3 discards VM
[04:41] <arraybolt3> (not the end of the world = this doesn't seem to be designed to do damage, it just *does* in the wrong context))
[04:42] <arraybolt3> At least the writer did put a safety measure in there with the `set` line near the top. It doesn't totally disarm it, but it did stifle my initial attempt at running it.
[04:45] <sarnold> it might just be standard cargo-culting :)
[05:28] <guiverc> thanks for exploration of script arraybolt3 & sarnold
[08:09] <pagios> hello all, so mainly i would like to have a system that remoyely controls my sound system and plays some music (loaded on local storage) using some application, preferable open source do you recommend any ? example: i go home, i open my app, play music on it , it directly plays on my home speakers
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> pagios: think clementine supports android remote control
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> spotify can be an idea too
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !info clementine
[08:47] <pagios> mpd seems to win


[00:05] <ruben23> hi guys do we have packages..? ha on ubuntu server and also MON..?
[00:06] <Psi-Jack> Huh?
[00:06] <Psi-Jack> Totally made no sense, ruben23
[00:08] <ruben23> Psi-Jack:sorry ---> i mean does ubuntu server 10.04 LTS have hearbeat packages also MON packages...?
[00:08] <Psi-Jack> heartbeat? Deprecated, not supported, not recommended. Pacemaker has superceded heartbeat.
[01:36] <jacobthetechguy> I tried a do-release-upgrade -d from 10.04 and it failed due a bug in slapd.  The server is in that state still. The fix has been put into proposed. How do I make the release upgrade use the proposed package?
[01:41] <blendedbychris> i didn't think it made the upgrade process fail?
[01:52] <jacobthetechguy> Yeah it did...
[01:52] <jacobthetechguy> Bug number 990742
[02:00] <timerseven> Question about ubuntu ec2 setup -- very n00b
[03:50] <van7hu> hi everyone
[03:51] <van7hu> what's the kdc package of kerberos that ubuntu using?
[03:51] <van7hu> MIT, Heimdal or anything else?
[05:46] <aljosa> i'm getting "/usr/lib/lxc/templates/lxc-ubuntu-cloud: line 240: type: ubuntu-cloudimg-query: not found" when using "lxc-create -t ubuntu-cloud ...". any ideas?
[07:55] <koolhead17> hi all
[10:39] <memoryleak> hi
[10:40] <nibalizer> hi
[10:43] <mattt> hai
[11:01] <RoyK> hei
[12:36] <EMKO> i upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 and now i cant figure out why mysql wont start i get this ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:00] <RoyK> EMKO: check the logs
[13:02] <EMKO> where can i find that logs? is it /var/log/mysql.log ?
[13:19] <oCean> EMKO: there are several, but you might be interested in /var/log/upstart/mysql.log
[13:20] <oCean> EMKO: you have tried restarting mysql, and then this error apears?
[13:20] <EMKO> i tried removing mysql and reinstalling it
[13:21] <oCean> and now?
[13:21] <EMKO> failed on root password setup
[13:21] <oCean> failed?
[13:21] <EMKO> it said it could set the new root password
[13:21] <EMKO> couldn't
[13:22] <EMKO> im tried right now so i just restored my older ubuntu for now will try upgrade it later again :(
[13:22] <oCean> is the mysql server currently running?
[13:22] <oCean> ok, we could do some checks, but it sounds you already chose to restore
[13:22] <EMKO> yea sorry
[13:23] <oCean> no problem
[13:23] <EMKO> i was trying to figure this out for a couple of hours
[13:23] <EMKO> but thanks anyways
[13:23] <oCean> welcome, and if it fails again, don't worry just ask here
[13:23] <EMKO> i have a feeling it was something to do with my.cnf that i didnt choose to update when it asked
[13:26] <Jwl81> Hi, I need help with Japanese filenames in ubuntu server. They're all showing up as ???? and my samba share sees them as alpbabets+numbers. I suspect i need to mount it correctly but I've used '	sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137' and I've installed the fonts 'sudo apt-get install ttf-takao'
[13:26] <Jwl81> what else do I need to do?
[13:30] <miceiken> My server seems to be unable to resolve hostnames since I upgraded to v12. What do I do?
[13:37] <andol> miceiken: I wonder if it might be resolvconf being used by default which bites you. Do you have your expected resolvers listed in /etc/resolv.conf?
[13:38] <Jwl81> andol: can you see if i made a mistake with my mount command? '	sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /media/HERMES -o uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137'
[13:38] <Jwl81> japanese file names are still showing as ?????
[13:39] <andol> Jwl81: I really don't have any experience with FAT filesystems and charsets.
[13:40] <Jwl81> alright. thanks.
[15:12] <jsmith-argotec>  I tried to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 with do-release-upgrade -d but it failed due to slapd not installing properly
[15:12] <jsmith-argotec> there is a bug on it and a fix in proposed but... how in the world do I get the server to do-release-upgrade using a -proposed package?
[15:13] <jsmith-argotec> (server is in the failed to upgrade and tried to undo state right now - haven't rebooted or anything)
[15:28]  * koolhead17 SpamapS "good morning from SF sir"
[15:29]  * koolhead17 is feeling so lazy
[16:34] <blendedbychris> anyone around to explin iostat-x
[16:35] <blendedbychris> does a consisten wkB/s of 429.96 mean it's writing that alot?
[16:35] <blendedbychris> writing the the drive*
[16:35] <pabelanger> Looks like we didn't do a good job testing keystone, bug 944684.  It looks like dbconfig-common doesn't even work properly
[17:20] <Tohuw> What is wrong with my syntax here: ufw allow on eth0 from any to <IP_ADDRESS> smbd
[17:22] <qman__> Tohuw, missing 'in' or 'out'
[17:23] <qman__> i.e. allow in on eth0
[17:24] <Tohuw> qman__: I tried ufw allow in on eth0 from any to <IP_ADDRESS> smbd and still get wrong number of arguments
[17:25] <qman__> also missing proto
[17:25] <Tohuw> Ah. what does "proto" mean?
[17:25] <qman__> 'proto smbd'
[17:25] <qman__> (assuming that's a valid protocol name)
[17:25] <Tohuw> oh wait, protocol
[17:25] <Tohuw> duh
[17:29] <Tohuw> qman__: I found the issue. I mistakenly believed ufw read from init.d, it does not. It reads from /etc/service. I'll just have to make an app profile for smbd. Thanks.
[17:31] <qman__> yeah, init.d is being phased out, part of the whole upstart thing
[19:30] <pukeko_> hiya - i have got a degraded /dev/md0 and /dev/md1 but /dev/md2 is ok... (raid1 - two disks with three partitions each) - how do i "fix" this ?
[19:32] <pukeko_> im pretty sure its an hardware prob
[19:32] <pukeko_> but i would like to attempt rebuilding it
[19:36] <jacobw> is logstash packaged for 12.04?
[19:38] <ikonia> pukeko_: fail the disk and swap it out
[19:38] <ikonia> or re-add the failed partitions
[19:39] <ikonia> pukeko_: you sometimes get failed meta devices while others work if there is a lag spinning up the disk
[19:43] <pukeko_> ikonia: i do not know the syntax to re-add the failed partitions
[19:45] <ikonia> pukeko_: mdadm --manage /dev/md$ --add /dev/$disk
[19:45] <pukeko_> ikonia: not "--re-add" ?
[19:45] <ikonia> I'm not aware there is a "--re-add" option
[19:46] <ikonia> never heard of that
[19:46] <pukeko_> brb
[19:50] <pukeko_> ikonia: ah thats better - it appears to be rebuilding ( the Dell BIOS alerted to a disk error also so /dev/sdb's days could be numbered )
[19:56] <ikonia> understood
[19:56] <ikonia> that option has always worked fine with me, so I wouldn't worry
[21:44] <miceiken> My server seems to be unable to resolve some hostnames since I dist upgraded, any ideas?
[21:44] <miceiken> Although from googling it seems like it may be a package error
[21:44] <RoyK> check /etc/resolv.conf
[21:47] <Aison> how can i temporary disable this check in the kernel? sd 10:0:0:0: ioctl_internal_command return code = 8000002
[21:47] <Aison> oh, sorry
[21:48] <Aison> I mean TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 8080. Dropping request.  Check SNMP counters.
[21:48] <Aison> I would like to test the server with flooding 8080
[21:49] <miceiken> what about it RoyK
[21:50] <miceiken> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:50] <miceiken> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:50] <RoyK> hm... and if you type "host asdf.com", does it look that up?
[22:19] <miceiken> RoyK then it must be ZNC package
[22:25] <Resistance> miceiken:  are you having trouble with ZNCs?
[22:26] <ball> For an application where we want to be able to grow a filesystem with our data, is it sensible to have an lvm pool with underlying RAID-1 pairs?
[22:27] <Resistance> miceiken:  what's the issue(s) you're having?  I may be able to help a bit
[22:27]  * Resistance doesnt have backlogs
[22:36] <Deathvalley122> hello can anyone tell me how the dns's stayed saved on boot up?
[22:45] <Resistance> Deathvalley122:  can you be more specific?
[22:47] <Deathvalley122> Resistance: the DC messed up my dns and the repos for my server is not resolving and when I put the nameservers in the resolv conf and I reboot the server it does not stay saved
[22:52] <pdtpatr1ck> Deathvalley122: are u using static? if so -- in ur /etc/network/interfaces -- add dns-nameservers <ip addy>
[22:52] <Deathvalley122> http://pastebin.com/DKSdCDt6
[22:52] <Deathvalley122> yes
[22:52] <Deathvalley122> I tried that
[22:52] <Deathvalley122> and I when I rebooted it got erased
[22:53] <pdtpatr1ck> pastebin ur interfaces file please
[22:53] <pdtpatr1ck> if u don't mind
[22:57] <pdtpatr1ck> Deathvalley122: so here's an example of mine
[22:57] <pdtpatr1ck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/972462/
[22:58] <Deathvalley122> does it stay saved on reboot?
[22:58] <pdtpatr1ck> yup
[22:59] <pdtpatr1ck> if u add it manually to /etc/resolv.conf -- it'll get wiped
[22:59] <pdtpatr1ck> adding it to /etc/network/interfaces  is best idea
[23:06] <pdtpatr1ck> Deathvalley122: you can read more here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/resolvconf.8.html
[23:07] <Deathvalley122> ok
[23:07] <Deathvalley122> I am trying again
[23:08] <pdtpatr1ck> k
[23:08] <Deathvalley122> http://pastebin.com/U4m0nFX0 pdtpatr1ck
[23:09] <pdtpatr1ck> ur missing dns-nameservers and dns-search
[23:09] <Deathvalley122> ya
[23:11] <pdtpatr1ck> http://pastie.org/pastes
[23:11] <pdtpatr1ck> so it would be something along those lines
[23:11] <pdtpatr1ck> adjust to fit your environment
[23:14] <Deathvalley122> well I dunno what to put as the dns search pdtpatr1ck
[23:16] <pdtpatr1ck> when u do something like "nslookup google.com "
[23:16] <Deathvalley122> oh
[23:16] <pdtpatr1ck> it should give u a name of a server
[23:19] <Deathvalley122> ok
[23:20] <Deathvalley122> rebooted the server
[23:20] <Deathvalley122> its set to static
[23:20] <Deathvalley122> but I dunno
[23:20] <pdtpatr1ck> k
[23:21] <pdtpatr1ck> meaning ?
[23:24] <Deathvalley122> pdtpatr1ck: http://pastebin.com/4cq8AwRJ didn't work still not resolving the repos
[23:25] <pdtpatr1ck> please paste your correct interfaces file
[23:25] <pdtpatr1ck> also ping yahoo.com
[23:25] <pdtpatr1ck> does that work ?
[23:25] <koolhead17> Daviey, lynxman ping
[23:28] <Deathvalley122> pdtpatr1ck: http://pastebin.com/r9dDqT7S http://pastebin.com/ju6x4k4L
[23:29] <pdtpatr1ck> your network settings aren't correct
[23:29] <pdtpatr1ck> do this
[23:29] <pdtpatr1ck> comment out the static entry
[23:30] <pdtpatr1ck> change it to "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[23:30] <pdtpatr1ck> then save it
[23:30] <pdtpatr1ck> and run "dhclient"
[23:30] <pdtpatr1ck> once u get an IP
[23:30] <pdtpatr1ck> take note of what is generated in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:31] <pdtpatr1ck> then when creating your static entry, make sure you remember all those details, ur dns server, default gateway, the subnet mask etc.
[23:31] <Deathvalley122> when you mean comment it out do you mean putting a #?
[23:31] <pdtpatr1ck> yup
[23:32] <Deathvalley122> ok do I reboot to find out what is generating?
[23:32] <pdtpatr1ck> nope
[23:32] <pdtpatr1ck> just save the interfaces file
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> then type "dhclient eth0"
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> it will take couple of seconds and then receive an offer
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> once it is complete
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> run "ip addr show eth0"
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> this should give u the ip address and the subnet mask and broadcast
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> then run "route -n" to get your default gateway
[23:33] <pdtpatr1ck> you can see your dns settings in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:34] <pdtpatr1ck> then put all that together and create your static entry
[23:34] <Deathvalley122> I am not sure what its doing
[23:34] <Deathvalley122> lol
[23:34] <pdtpatr1ck> btw - u don't need to reboot each time. Once u make ur changes, ur free to test by trying to update. If they don't work, then u did something wrong
[23:35] <Deathvalley122> no output just stuck on that command
[23:35] <pdtpatr1ck> dhclient is going to request an IP from ur DHCP server or it will ask ur ISP for an IP
[23:35] <Deathvalley122> nothing comes up
[23:35] <Deathvalley122> its just stuck on there
[23:36] <pdtpatr1ck> give it a second or two
[23:36] <pdtpatr1ck> how is this server connecteD?
[23:36] <pdtpatr1ck> is it directly connected to the public ?
[23:36] <pdtpatr1ck> or is this internal and connect to a switch or a router ?
[23:37] <Deathvalley122> I dunno its from a DC
[23:37] <Deathvalley122> my guess is that they use vlan
[23:37] <pdtpatr1ck> i c
[23:37] <pdtpatr1ck> is there another server within the same VLAN ?
[23:38] <Deathvalley122> I .... dunno pdtpatr1ck
[23:38] <Deathvalley122> my guess is they really messed up something pdtpatr1ck
[23:40] <pdtpatr1ck> well u gonna have to do some digging around or ask someone. U've got to know how the server is connected. If there's no DHCP server then it is not going to be able to just pull IPs. If it is directly connected to the public (which would be weird) then u need to know whether ur ISP gave u static address and if so, they'll usually give u more information along with the IPs to be able to properly setup your network.
[23:40] <pdtpatr1ck> so ur going to have to do some leg work
[23:40] <pdtpatr1ck> Goodluck
[23:41] <Deathvalley122> thanks pdtpatr1ck I will just have the DC deal with it