[00:00] <zave> i want to uninstall or purge, with apt-get, the java jdk, if it's installed.
[00:01] <k1l_> zave: apt purge package. that will remove a package if installed
[00:01] <zave> okthx.
[00:01] <znr> 'sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>'
[00:12] <iputra> hello
[00:18] <Hydr0p0nX> is there something special I need to do to make sure kernel headers are updated when the kernel is through the software updater ?
[00:18] <k1l_> Hydr0p0nX: what is the output of "uname -a"?
[00:19] <Hydr0p0nX> 4.2.0-34-generic i believe,it's coming back up without network so it'll take a minute to say for sure
[00:20] <k1l_> is it s 15.10?
[00:20] <Hydr0p0nX> 14.04.1
[00:21] <bekks> 14.04.1 does not have kernel 4.2.0
[00:21] <k1l_> ok. so you are using the wily backports kernel stack. so you need to make sure linux-generic-lts-wily is installed
[00:22] <k1l_> Hydr0p0nX: as you see, details matter. because on a non LTS release it would be just linux-generic
[00:27] <Hydr0p0nX> thanks, now to find what i need to fix this
[00:29] <Bashing-om> Hydr0p0nX: Is it intalled ' dpkg -l linux-generic-lts-wily ' ?
[00:32] <iputra> i have problem
[00:32] <Bashing-om> iputra: We have difficulty fixing broken hearts .
[00:35] <Hydr0p0nX> version none  architecture none
[00:35] <Hydr0p0nX> should have been, I followed the instructions on the site to upgrade the HWE
[00:40] <hp_> tell me when you find interesting program for ubuntu
[00:40] <bekks> I found a lot.
[00:41] <hp_> 15.04 has only few
[00:41] <bekks> 15.04 is dead.
[00:41] <bekks> !15.04 | hp_
[00:41] <iputra> Bashing-om: why after i run "sudo apt-get upgrade" my ubuntu can not log in to desktop environment stack in gray screen
[00:42] <bekks> !eolupgrade | hp_
[00:42] <hp_> maybe i can try myth
[00:43] <bekks> hp_: there are more than 40.000 packages in Ubuntu.
[00:43] <bekks> hp_: And your release is still dead.
[00:43] <Bashing-om> iputra: Broken proprietary graphics driver, reckon ?
[00:45] <hp_> i have an old computer
[00:46] <bekks> nacc: which doesnt count for the fact you are running an outdated release which isnt supported anymore.
[00:46] <iputra> Bashing-om: this is the problem http://prnt.sc/aj93ax & http://prnt.sc/aj93i0
[00:47] <hp_> i will retry
[00:47] <Bashing-om> iputra: Look'n .
[00:47] <hp_> with another ubuntu
[00:47] <iputra> Bashing-om: ?
[00:50] <iputra> Bashing-om: i'm not an expert in ubuntu
[00:51] <nacc> bekks: ?
[00:51] <Bashing-om> iputra: In English words, can you describe your problem ?
[00:53] <Glass_> I have returned!
[00:53] <Glass_> I seem to have fixed my problem. TJ thank you. XD
[00:56] <bluefive> Hello.
[00:56] <bluefive> I can't log into my router.
[00:56] <bluefive> Any help?
[00:56] <znr> hard reset
[00:56] <bluefive> I put a small computer screwdriver into the button on the bottom of the router. I held it there for at least 5 seconds.
[00:57] <bluefive> But the password seems not to have changed.
[00:57] <bluefive> Any help?
[00:57] <znr> brand of the router?
[00:58] <bluefive> DLink. When I reset it I didn't unplug it
[00:58] <bluefive> just turned it off
[00:58] <bluefive> could that be why?
[00:58] <iputra> Bashing-om: oke wait
[00:58] <znr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XaijQe_2Qw
[00:58] <Bashing-om> iputra: At your pace, as you are able .
[00:59] <Glass_> Bashing-om
[00:59] <bluefive> OH
[00:59] <bluefive> it has to be ON when you reset it?
[00:59] <Glass_> I'd like to thank you also
[01:00] <bluefive> OK. Off to reset it.
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Glass_: Yeah, Oh ,, TJ- Gets this cookie .
[01:00] <snfgf> I've produced a new kernel boot image. How do I enable booting it from GRUB? The reference I'm using just copies it over /boot/vmlinuz, but I would like to choose between the two kernels.
[01:00] <znr> good night peeps
[01:01] <Glass_> Both of you guys, Bashing-om. Nobody else acknowledged my struggles. Except you too.
[01:01] <znr> bluefive:: https://www.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/fiosinternet/networking/troubleshooting/dlink624/130274.htm
[01:01] <Glass_> Two*
[01:02] <Bashing-om> Glass_: :) Just glad TJ- pointed the way .
[01:04] <Glass_> Ubuntu 14.04 is such a hassle with these pre-installed drivers man. XD
[01:04] <iputra> Bashing-om: when i turn off my laptop, my laptop engine still runnig, if it happens then i do force shutdown. sometimes after force shutdown my laptop don't go to the desktop, then i went into tty1 and type "fsck /dev/sda1". after run fsck usually normal returned to normal after i reboot. this will not effect after i perform the command "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:05] <Hydr0p0nX> so how do I make sure kernel headers are updated when the kernel is ? I lose network and video driver everytime it changes and end up having to pull a usb wifi adapter off another machine to get it all straightened out
[01:06] <cr0wmatic> would there be a sound guru in here I can chat with? I may be missing something or not understanding the technology as I thought with a new sound card.
[01:08] <snfgf> Trying to boot another kernel. I copy the kernel image to /boot, and run 'update-grub' but only the old kernel in /boot is detected.
[01:11] <bluefive> Is there a quick way I can tell if I enabled home folder encryption on this ubuntu install?
[01:11] <iputra> Bashing-om: when i turn off my laptop, my laptop engine still runnig, if it happens then i do force shutdown. sometimes after force shutdown my laptop don't go to the desktop, then i went into tty1 and type "fsck /dev/sda1". after run fsck usually normal returned to normal after i reboot. this will not effect after i perform the command "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:12] <ryclik_> Hey guys. I accidentally deleted my partition table on my main disk. In effort to restore it I was wondering if anyone knows where the Ubuntu default partition sizing is documented?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> iputra: Bad practice to run 'fsck' on a mounted file system . What release are you running ? Seems there is a different method to properly invoke a forced file system check in systemd .
[01:12] <ryclik_> LVM + LUKS specifically
[01:13] <ouroumov> bluefive, if you can do key-based ssh auth while not logged in to the machine, then you haven't.
[01:13] <fattire> wow.. annoying b1 update issue:
[01:13] <iputra> Bashing-om: willy werewolf with mate desktop environment
[01:13] <fattire> Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/systemd-sysv_229-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb'
[01:14] <cr0wmatic> bluefive: I think you can do an ls -A /home in the terminal and see if there is an .ecryptfs folder?
[01:14] <fattire> that looks potentially like a problem.. guess I'll find out
[01:14] <fattire> Could not install 'systemd-sysv'
[01:15] <bluefive> ls -A /home doesn't do anything
[01:15] <fattire> I hope that doesn't break every sysv package...
[01:15] <bluefive> What's that?
[01:15] <fattire> ls -a  you mean bluefive?
[01:15] <bluefive> so I do ls -a?
[01:15] <bluefive> And see if there's an encryptfs folder?
[01:16] <fattire> bluefive: I'm not sure what you're doing but yes it should show if you have one
[01:16] <fattire> and it's not mounted
[01:16] <ProGem> Hello
[01:16] <ProGem> Hello? ;-;
[01:16] <bluefive> fattire, But it would be mounted if I am logged into the system.
[01:16] <fattire> bluefive: ls -la would work
[01:16] <bluefive> fattire, Would it show if it's mounted?
[01:16] <cr0wmatic> fattire, he's trying to see if his home drive is encrypted
[01:16] <fattire> bluefive: actually yeah it's fine if it's mounted
[01:16] <fattire> cr0wmatic: oh
[01:17] <bluefive> I don't see one yet.
[01:17] <fattire> bluefive: just do mount | grep yourusername
[01:17] <fattire> you should see something like
[01:17] <fattire>  /home/.ecryptfs/yourusername/.Private on /home/yourusername type ecryptfs
[01:19] <fattire> this is gonna suck:   Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/systemd-sysv_229-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb'
[01:19] <bluefive> Isn't there a way I can just type a command to see if encryptfs is installed?
[01:19] <fattire> I'm assuming this provides backwards compatibility to sysv ?
[01:19] <fattire> bluefive: dude I told you
[01:19] <fattire> mount | grep yourusername
[01:20] <fattire> if it's mounted as a cryptfs it'll tell you
[01:20] <fattire> if you want to know if cryptfs is installed:
[01:20] <fattire> dpkg -l | grep cryptfs
[01:21] <bluefive> That does nothing.
[01:21] <fattire> that's a minus -l (L) not (1)
[01:22] <fattire> if it does nothing then you probably don't have it installed
[01:22] <bluefive> I copied it just as you wrote it.
[01:22] <bluefive> Do I first have to type mount | grep username before that works?
[01:23] <cr0wmatic> they are independent of one another
[01:23] <bluefive> Well maybe I don't have it installed.
[01:23] <iputra> Bashing-om: maybe i should reinstall it ?
[01:23] <cr0wmatic> if 'mount | grep bluefive' (or whatever your username is) doesn't output anything, I'd expect it not to be encrypted
[01:24] <fattire> bluefive: when I say "username" I mean bluefive or whatever your username is
[01:24] <fattire> I don't mean literally "username"
[01:24] <fattire> I don't know what you called your user
[01:24] <fattire> so I said "username"
[01:24] <fattire> or "yourusername"
[01:24] <TzmFen> thts like equal of  changing nick wiht advice /nick newnick , and someone does it exactly like that
[01:24] <fattire> when you set up your account maybe you called it "bluefive" in which case you'd say
[01:24] <fattire> mount | grep bluefive
[01:25] <bluefive> Yes.
[01:25] <bluefive> it says:
[01:25] <fattire> also that | thing is a vertical line or "pipe" and it's made with shift-\
[01:25] <fattire> (usually, depending on your keyboard)
[01:25] <bluefive> --> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=orde
[01:25] <bluefive> then after orde it says my username.
[01:26] <fattire> that means... and get read for an explanation...
[01:26] <fattire> so what it means is
[01:26] <fattire>  /dev/sda is the name of your storage device-- hard drive or ssd or whatever
[01:26] <fattire>  /dev/sda1 is the first partition of the device
[01:26] <Bashing-om> iputra: Maybe not a re-onstall .. looking for a way to properly run a file system check at bootup in systemd.
[01:27] <fattire>   it is a file system of the ext4 type--
[01:27] <fattire>  it is mounted at /  <-- the root of your directory
[01:27] <bluefive> I just want to know if I have encryptfs installed or if my home dir is encrypted, remember?
[01:28] <bluefive> Now that you mention it, I suppose I am learning about my file system.
[01:29] <fattire> it has a few characteristics, such that it is mounted rw or able to read and write, etc
[01:30] <cr0wmatic> k, no sound gurus, anyone have 5.1 surround working through spdif?
[01:30] <fattire> if it does not tell you that /home/bluefive (or whatever, I'm just going ot say "bluefive" is your account from now on) is mounted as cryptfs  (and assuming that you ARE logged in) then I think that you are not using cryptfs
[01:31] <bluefive> Well, can I look for cryptfs in my graphical file manager?
[01:31] <bluefive> Or would it not appear?
[01:31] <fattire> bluefive: you would see /home/.cryptfs with ls -la
[01:31] <fattire> if you don't see it, if you only see /home/bluefive then you're unlikely to be using it
[01:32] <bluefive> I don't see any "home" at all.
[01:32] <jjwaxxx> i dont use fb anymore
[01:32] <fattire> bluefive: ls -la /home
[01:33] <jjwaxxx> ??
[01:33] <cr0wmatic> jjwaxxx, you won't miss it
[01:33] <bluefive> I did that.
[01:33] <jjwaxxx> yes i think
[01:33] <bluefive> That means I'm in the home dir now?
[01:33] <Five35> Hi
[01:34] <cr0wmatic> bluefive, running 'ls -la /home' will show you the folders in the /home directory. If you don't see a .cryptfs folder, it's not encrypted
[01:34] <bluefive> I don't see it.
[01:34] <bluefive> Then I wonder why my fan is running hard whenever I do anything.
[01:34] <cr0wmatic> you have your answer, not encrypted
[01:35] <beshoo> any body worked with graphicsmagick , i want to get a one pixel RGB color but i dont know how !
[01:35] <ouroumov> bluefive, for future reference say that first before investigating your guesses
[01:36] <beshoo> I have X,Y of the pixel , and the path of Bmp image :)
[01:36] <jjwaxxx> i try to download 15 10
[01:36] <bluefive> ouroumov, Someone said that encryptfs causes the fan to run hard if the system lacks AES-NI.
[01:36] <ouroumov> bluefive, how old is the hardware? What are the top CPU-using processes listed in htop?
[01:36] <bluefive> htop not installed.
[01:37] <jjwaxxx> i have pidgin but dont works
[01:37] <bluefive> installing now.
[01:37] <bluefive> htop
[01:37] <bluefive> PID 1267 is the top task
[01:37] <bluefive> that's firefox.
[01:38] <ouroumov> Watch htop for a while.
[01:38] <jjwaxxx> stoppe
[01:38] <ouroumov> PID numbers are meaningless to the problem at hand
[01:38] <ouroumov> bluefive, next kill firefox, and see if your CPU stops venting
[01:39] <jjwaxxx> high speed at night
[01:40] <bluefive> Yes, that made it go quiet.
[01:40] <iputra> hmm
[01:41] <ouroumov> So maybe some javascript was screwing around
[01:41] <bluefive> But that doesn't mean anything. If the home dir was encrypted Firefox could cause the fan to run hard.
[01:41] <ouroumov> But we've already established it isn't, bluefive.
[01:41] <bluefive> Well, I never saw encryptfs when I did the commands you suggested.
[01:42] <ouroumov> bluefive, is firefox, and the system in general, up to date?
[01:42] <cr0wmatic> ha, goodbye pulse, you were fun before I broke you
[01:43] <minimec> bluefive: Fo rolder hardware I recommend some plugins for firefox like 'ghostery' and 'adblock plus' or adblock on /etc/hosts level. Not only does it redouce data transfer, but also CPU time blocking all these animated ads...
[01:44] <ryan_turner> Ah the title tells me :(
[01:44] <ryan_turner> no beta release yet
[01:44] <ryan_turner> Good thing i read that instead of getting kicked :P
[01:44] <bluefive> Yes
[01:44] <bluefive> going to return the system for a fanless.
[01:44] <ryan_turner> I've never been around for a beta release; is it typically near the end of the day before the release happens, or this abnormal?
[01:45] <bluefive> When I went to the ghostery page it said it requires javascript
[01:45] <bluefive> so I already had javascript disabled.
[01:45] <bluefive> Had to use the non-jS ghostery page.
[01:45] <ouroumov> !+1 | ryan_turner
[01:45] <ouroumov> erhf
[01:45] <ryan_turner> Aw
[01:45] <ryan_turner> bye :(
[01:45] <ouroumov> ryan_turner, see topic
[01:45] <ryan_turner> Oh, yeah my chat client cuts off at "IS NOT RE"
[01:45] <ouroumov> ^^
[01:46] <ryan_turner> I understand it's not released; guess I'll look for past beta releases to determine if late in the evening is typical.
[01:46] <minimec> bluefive: Use the firefox extensions option in the settings and ad the extension to firefox.
[01:48] <Bashing-om> iputra: For a file system check at boot, we make an edit to the boot parameter in grub boot.
[01:48] <jjwaxxx> i try to install 15 10
[01:50] <iputra> Bashing-om: how to enter grub manually
[01:50] <ferdinand-blaubu> What's an API that would allow me to monitor (and ideally preempt) TCP/IP connections made on my linux box?
[01:50] <jjwaxxx> with puppy
[01:51] <Bashing-om> iputra: Is this a UEFI macjine ? mens differ from legacy firmware machines .
[01:51] <Bashing-om> machineP mens/means *
[01:52] <Grimz> Free Software Show live at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gPypshATc8x
[01:52] <iputra> Bashing-om: yes, this is
[01:53] <bluefive> If I use my SSD in a different computer do I have to reinstall everything? I mean Ubuntu.
[01:53] <jjwaxxx> microsoft "windows"
[01:53] <minimec> bluefive: Normally not. May depend on the GPU. Maybe uninstall some amd/nvidia binary blobs.
[01:55] <iputra> Bashing-om: oh i don't know, my laptop is uefi machhine or legacy firmware machine. surely my laptop is dell vostro 5470
[01:56] <bluefive> minimec, If the systems are fairly similar you mean?
[01:56] <jjwaxxx> i have compaq impresario
[01:56] <bluefive> Both systems have integrated GPUs on the CPUs.
[01:56] <bluefive> One CPU is Broadwell Core and one is Braswell.
[01:57] <jjwaxxx> and one is broadaway
[01:58] <Bashing-om> iputra: Reboot the machine, as soon as the firmware screen clears press and release the escape key repeatedly * a 3 second window of opportunity ) -> language screen, escape key to accept the default -> grub boot menu -> 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen. In this screen is the boot line containing "quiet splash"; add " fsck.mode=force " - without the quote marks . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process .
[01:59] <minimec> bluefive: If you don't have any proprietary amd/nvidia driver installed, that helps. If you have a 64bit system installed, the CPU of the other machine should also support 64bit (probably no problem nowadays). I have done that already and also use a complete ubuntu installation on a USB stick on various machines without any problem.
[02:01] <jjwaxxx> i need unetbootin??
[02:02] <reisio> jjwaxxx: for what?
[02:02] <jjwaxxx> there is 15.04 avayable
[02:02] <iputra> Bashing-om: so like this "queit splash fsck.mode=force" ?
[02:02] <jjwaxxx> for install ubuntu
[02:03] <cr0wmatic> does audio always go through alsa to pulseaudio?
[02:04] <Bashing-om> iputra: Yeah ,,, but no quote marks at all . if this is a legacy system it is a shift key that grub looks for rather than the escape key .
[02:04] <reisio> cr0wmatic: pulseaudio sits on top of alsa, always
[02:04] <iputra> Bashing-om: yeah i know
[02:04] <reisio> there's oss, but it's best not even thought of
[02:04] <iputra> Bashing-om: okay
[02:06] <cr0wmatic> reisio and pulseaudio sits on top of it in Ubuntu by default because it provides more than alsa? I'll read up on it, but attempting to fix some 5.1 digital issues
[02:07] <reisio> cr0wmatic: Ubuntu uses pulseaudio by default, yes, and it requires alsa as well
[02:07] <jjwaxxx> hey trere is bitcoin
[02:08] <fantasma> ola
[02:08] <cr0wmatic> reisio: ty
[02:08] <fantasma> ola  amigos
[02:08] <jjwaxxx> ola
[02:09] <fantasma> ai qual é a novidade no mundo  linuz
[02:09] <jjwaxxx> ciapa i bit coin
[02:09] <xangua> !  Can I run a Ubuntu system off it permanently or is it intended for short-term usage like transfers?
[02:24] <jjwaxxx> i have from ps4
[02:24] <fattire> Blueking: that's an enclosure not a hd
[02:24] <jjwaxxx> but dont work
[02:24] <fattire> but it looks fast enough to use
[02:25] <BEER_> i dont want GRUB {boot loader) messing up my Win10 boot
[02:25] <fattire> the enclosure I mean
[02:26] <BEER_> but i like having a dual boot windows / linux machine
[02:27] <jjwaxxx> voyager is great but no free software
[02:27] <jjwaxxx> it has kodi
[02:27] <ubuntu903> Bashing-om: look this http://prnt.sc/aj93j0, i have add fsck.mode=force
[02:28] <kopo_> hi
[02:28] <jjwaxxx> ok byeeeee
[02:29] <kopo_> byee
[02:30] <kopo_> hey
[02:32] <reisio> bluefive: you can, however, run GNU/Linux from a drive within an external enclosure, for as long as you please
[02:32] <reisio> GNU/Linux doesn't care where your storage is; storage is storage, is storage
[02:34] <BEER_> reisio:  know anything about windows / linux dual booting?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> ubuntu903: look'n
[02:34] <reisio> BEER_: sure
[02:35] <reisio> kopo_: ohai
[02:35] <BEER_> im reading this page right now:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[02:35] <reisio> BEER_: I'm reading this channel right now
[02:35] <reisio> we could be brothers!
[02:35] <BEER_> i think thats a start
[02:35] <reisio> BEER_: Ubuntu's installer will, most of the time, hold your hand through dual booting
[02:35] <reisio> no special knowledge required
[02:35] <BEER_> k
[02:36] <reisio> there's an option at the outset with wording something like 'install alongside...'
[02:36] <BEER_> ok so it should work with windows 10 professional
[02:36] <reisio> BEER_: most likely, Windows 10 is Windows NT
[02:37] <reisio> Windows NT is what Windows has been for the past 22 years
[02:37] <reisio> hasn't really changed that much, at the bottom
[02:37] <Bashing-om> ubuntu903: Try ' fsck.repair=preen ' as a boot parameter to fix the filwe system .
[02:37] <bluefive> Yes
[02:38] <bluefive> But that there is not an external enclosure.
[02:38] <bluefive> It's an enclosure that converts the mSATA to a regular SSD.
[02:38] <bluefive>  My question is if that is just as reliable as a regular SSD.
[02:38] <reisio> just got done saying where the storage is isn't relevant :)
[02:39] <reisio> bluefive: mmm, anytime you introduce more to do the same thing you could do with less, you introduce more unreliability
[02:39] <reisio> bluefive: but it'll probably work just fine
[02:39] <reisio> see #hardware for a hardware opinion
[02:39] <ouroumov> bluefive, what reisio said. More components = more things that can go wrong
[02:40] <reisio> working just fine forever and necessarily being more complex and theoretically less reliable are two different things is all
[02:40] <reisio> s/forever and necessarilyforever /and/ necessarily@
[02:40] <reisio> whoopses
[02:40] <reisio> anyway :p
[02:41] <bluefive> reisio: So it's probably a good idea to get that enclosure to use my existing mSATA with the system as opposed to spending twice as much for a new SSD. In your view?
[02:42] <ian443> exit
[02:49] <Stoner19> evening.
[02:50] <Stoner19> anyone with an idea of what this means or how to fix it? [     0.024082 ] DMAR: Failed to map dmar0
[02:52] <fattire> Stoner19: umm
[02:52] <fattire> Stoner19: any info about like what you were doing when you saw that
[02:52] <Stoner19> boot from live cd
[02:52] <Hydr0p0nX> Stoner19, see if you have VT-D enabled in bios
[02:52] <Hydr0p0nX> quick google says it could be the culprit
[02:52] <fattire> https://askubuntu.com/questions/664577/unable-to-boot-ubuntu-live-usb-flash-drive-with-casper-rw-persistent-partition
[02:53] <Stoner19> same message if I select "try ubuntu without installing" and "install"
[02:53] <Stoner19> will look in bios for VT-D
[02:53] <Stoner19> thanks Hydr0p0nX
[02:53] <Stoner19> I've seen others via a google search report the IOMMU error
[02:53] <Stoner19> but that's not what I'm getting
[02:54] <fattire> well the ubuntu upgrade installer for 16.04 is fucked unfortunately
[02:54] <minimec> Stoner19: Just googled your problem. There is a forum post that sais that activated VT-d coud be the problem. Try to disable VT-d in the BIOS? https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=135704
[02:54] <fattire> anyone know where the logfiles are?
[02:54] <fattire> for the updater?  Dont' seem to be insyslog
[02:55] <Stoner19> will do some digging for VT-d thank you
[02:55] <fattire> holy crap my launcher made it to the bottom
[02:56] <bluefive> Anyway, would you spent $70 on a new SSD or $25 on that enclosure for your existing mSATA?
[02:56] <bluefive> Nice thing about the enclosure is that I will probably be able to start over with the new system with all my stuff already installed and good to go.
[02:56] <fattire> bluefive: no way
[02:57] <bluefive> fattire: No way what?
[02:57] <fattire> I wouldn't use an enclosure for a primary boot device
[02:57] <bluefive> fattire: Why not?
[02:57] <bluefive> Is there something I don't know?
[02:57] <fattire> for one thing it's pretty inconvenient
[02:57] <bluefive> No, it's just an enclosure like this:
[02:57] <fattire> you want to carry around the hard drive you're booting off of?
[02:57] <bluefive> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00SM0SFDY/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ANNSJU9W28Y9J
[02:57] <fattire> it'll take a port...
[02:57] <fattire> yes I saw it beofre
[02:58] <Gallomimia> external boot devices suck :(
[02:58] <bluefive> It goes inside the system just like a normal SSD.
[02:58] <bluefive> It just converts the mSATA to regular SSD.
[02:58] <fattire> you mean size?
[02:58] <bluefive> The system doesn't support mSATA but I have mSATA, not regular SSD.
[02:58] <bluefive> Yes.
[02:58] <fattire> oh I see
[02:58] <fattire> when you say regular ssd...
[02:58] <bluefive> What's the correct terminology?
[02:58] <Rothbardian21> chat support?
[02:59] <Rothbardian21> Is this ubuntu chat support?
[02:59] <fattire> bluefive: mSata is like a tiny little card--  this basically looks like it converts that smaller size to a regular size
[02:59] <bluefive> Rothbardian21: Yes.
[02:59] <fattire> Rothbardian21: yes how may I take your order?
[02:59] <bluefive> fattire: Yes, exactly. Do you think it's just as reliable and safe as a normal SSD?
[02:59] <Rothbardian21> bluefive: Yes I have some issues with ubuntu 15.10.
[03:00] <fattire> bluefive: this converts msata the tiny card size to regular sata iii -- a regular hard drive sized thing
[03:00] <fattire> bluefive: yes but you'll be spending a lot of money
[03:00] <Rothbardian21> I am seem to be unabl eto install anything either from terminal or the software center, the software center doesn't load up either.
[03:00] <fattire> why not just get a regular sata drive without the converter and without the overhead of msata
[03:00] <bluefive> fattire: It says: "Short circuit protection, Thermal shutdown protection" -- does this mean that these enclosures can be prone to short circuits and thermal issues or is this just overboard protection?
[03:00] <bluefive> fattire: But it's only $25 and it makes my existing mSATA function like an ordinary sized SSD.
[03:01] <bluefive> Rothbardian21: Unity?
[03:01] <fattire> bluefive: I'm guessing it's the same "protection" you'll find in a regular sata device.. get a samsung evo ssd and don't get the enclosure
[03:01] <Rothbardian21> bluefive: Yes, with Macbuntu transformation pack.
[03:01] <fattire> bluefive: what existing msata?
[03:02] <fattire> Rothbardian21: macbuntu?
[03:02] <fattire> oh does that make it all mac-like?
[03:02] <bluefive> fattire: https://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SMS200S3-60G/dp/B00COFMPAM/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458873590&sr=1-2-fkmr1&keywords=msata+kingston+kg
[03:02] <fattire> Rothbardian21: you need ot be really specific
[03:02] <bluefive> fattire: I have one of these. Beautiful drive.
[03:02] <Rothbardian21> fattire: Yes, it's a series of icon/theme/dock add-ons to make it look like mac os x.
[03:03] <fattire> Rothbardian21: and what is the error you have and what do you do that generates it
[03:03] <Rothbardian21> bluefive: I am also unable to access any website.
[03:03] <brendenyule> I am trying to echo to my keyboard backlight on startup, but I am finding that the permissions of the file keep getting overwritten on reboot. How would I get around this?
[03:03] <fattire> bluefive: oh so you already have a mSata device in your computer?
[03:03] <bluefive> fattire: Yes, but this new computer does't support mSATA.
[03:03] <bluefive> So I either need an enclosure for the mSATA or a new SSD.
[03:03] <fattire> brendenyule: you could force it every time to be reset maybe (rc.local?)
[03:04] <fattire> bluefive: OHHHHHHHHHh
[03:04] <fattire> bluefive: now I undersand
[03:04] <Rothbardian21> bluefive: Though I am connected via ethernet. When I origionally installed, I figured the skylake processor may be to blame, as it was also an issue with opensuse. I recently installed a newer kernel on opensuse and it fixed everything, though I am unable to install anything in ubuntu.
[03:04] <fattire> okay then get the enclosure i guess... and/or a new SSD might be a good idea too
[03:04] <bluefive> fattire: What's the con of the enclosure? Is it just as safe and reliable as a regular SSD?
[03:04] <Rothbardian21> fattire: Let me try to reinstall software center again and see what it tells me.
[03:04] <fattire> Rothbardian21: again, what is the error you see, and waht do you type
[03:05] <fattire> bluefive: it will be as "good" as the mSATA ssd.  so if you're happy with the speed and size and such, it should be fine.  The advantage of a dedicated SSD is that you benefit from the recent unbelievable drops in price per gigabyte in the last year... so you can probably get a high storage capacity for cheap
[03:06] <reisio> bluefive: depends on what twice as much is, IMO
[03:06] <reisio> 2x$5 is negligible
[03:06] <Rothbardian21> fattire: Temporary failure resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:06] <reisio> 2x$30 is negligible
[03:06] <bluefive> Enclosure is $25. New SSD will be $80.
[03:06] <fattire> bluefive: for example, the sata ssd that you have, which is 60gb-- has dropped significantly in the last year http://ca.camelcamelcamel.com/Kingston-Digital-SSDNow-SMS200S3-60G/product/B00COFMPAM
[03:07] <bluefive> Also with the enclosure I may be able to resume with my Ubuntu and everything already configured as it is. With the new SSD I'll have to start over.
[03:07] <Rothbardian21> fattire: E: Unable to fetch some archivesmaybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:07] <fattire> Rothbardian21: that is a dns issue--  meaning something is wrong with your connection
[03:07] <bluefive> fattire: Yes, but a regular SSD will cost me about $80 Canadian.
[03:07] <bluefive> fattire: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00M8ABCZM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1K3SQICSA2UF7
[03:08] <Rothbardian21> fattire: I see. I have wifi running my desktop (windows 10), and the laptop with ubuntu is plugged in via ethernet, I never have any issues with connection on opensuse either.
[03:08] <fattire> bluefive: if you don't want to upgrade, and just want to move the existing SSD as cheaply as possible, then go for the enclosure.  If you want to use this as an opportunity to upgrade your storage, then get a full SATA SSD.
[03:08] <fattire> Rothbardian21: what do you see when you type ifconfig
[03:08] <fattire> do you see something like eth0 listed with an IP address?
[03:09] <linocisco> hi all
[03:09] <linocisco> whenever I click "reply" on thunderbird, my new message will be written under all emails, I want to reply latest on top of previous emails
[03:09] <linocisco> how could I do?
[03:09] <fattire> Rothbardian21: do you mean plugged in from your ubuntu laptop->desktop (windows) or do you mean plugged in from ubuntu laptop->router?
[03:09] <bluefive> fattire: Tell me this: if the existing system is a Pentium 3805U mini PC and the new system is a Braswell N3150, is it likely I can use the mSATA from the old system in the new one and my Ubuntu will work just as it does already?
[03:10] <fattire> bluefive: if your new computer supports SATA, then yes the enclosure should work-- but if you're asking if you can take the SSD and just pop it in and have it continue to work as is, I'm going to guess there will be issues
[03:10] <fattire> because the hardware will be different
[03:10] <Rothbardian21> fattire: Laptop is plugged into router. The ifconfig shows lots of errors on the packets, no dropped packets though.
[03:11] <bluefive> fattire: What kind of issues? It's a Broadwell system to a Braswell system. Quite similar, no?
[03:11] <fattire> Rothbardian21: typically plugging ethernet in should "just work" in ubuntu, but if not you can check to make sure you are plugge dinto the router... check if you have a valid IP on eth0
[03:12] <fattire> bluefive: for example, they may have different video cards
[03:12] <bluefive> fattire: But they both have integrated GPUs.
[03:12] <bluefive> Intel graphics.
[03:12] <fattire> bluefive-- if it falls back to intel it might be okay
[03:13] <bluefive> What do you mean falls back to Intel?
[03:13] <fattire> i mean if you haven't tweaked the settings to customize it to the hardware too much
[03:13] <bluefive> No, I haven't.
[03:13] <fattire> if the bios on both will allow unsigned stuff etc
[03:13] <fattire> or is it signed with ubuntu I'm not even sure
[03:13] <fattire> I mean, you could try it and mayb eit would just be like a live cd compatible and work immediately
[03:13] <bluefive> If there are issues will Ubuntu auto fix them?
[03:13] <Rothbardian21> fattire: The "Edit Connections" brought up nothing, which is odd since I remember manually configuring that in the past. The ifconfig did correctly list my ip address and mask.
[03:13] <fattire> bluefive: some issues it will...
[03:14] <fattire> bluefive: but if there are issues you can always come back here
[03:14] <fattire> bluefive: and there will be logs and such so you can debug it :)
[03:14] <fattire> Rothbardian21: can you ping successfully such as
[03:14] <fattire> ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[03:14] <fattire> and see a ping back?
[03:14] <Rothbardian21> fattire: lets see
[03:14] <explodes_> fer 5
[03:15] <bluefive> fattire: May be better to start over.
[03:15] <bluefive> What do you think?
[03:15] <bluefive> Try it first?
[03:15] <Rothbardian21> would I type "ping <IP_ADDRESS>?"
[03:15] <fattire> yup
[03:15] <fattire> that will try to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> which is google's nameserver
[03:15] <fattire> you sohuld see some kind of ping time reported
[03:15] <fattire> or if it can't connect, it should tell you that as well.
[03:17] <Rothbardian21> fattire: how do I stop the ping? Noob question I know.
[03:17] <fattire> control-C
[03:17] <Rothbardian21> thanks
[03:17] <duan> ctrl+c
[03:17] <Rothbardian21> 5% packet loss
[03:17] <fattire> if it worked right you should see
[03:17] <fattire> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=12.1 ms
[03:17] <fattire> a bunch of itmes
[03:18] <fattire> and yeah at the end it should say what 0% loss
[03:18] <fattire> that packet loss should be zero
[03:18] <fattire> if you have packets being lost, your connection is flaky fo rsome reason
[03:18] <Rothbardian21> fattire: it says multiple numbers on "ms", the one directly after the = sign is 42.910 ms
[03:18] <fattire> yes that's good
[03:18] <fattire> that's good news
[03:19] <fattire> now try something with a domain name
[03:19] <fattire> like cnn.com
[03:19] <fattire> ping cnn.com
[03:19] <Rothbardian21> k
[03:19] <fattire> and see if it is able to look up cnn.com and turn it to the IP #s.
[03:19] <fattire> something dot something dot something dot something
[03:19] <Rothbardian21> unknown host
[03:19] <Rothbardian21> trying google.com
[03:20] <fattire> okay.. so you are having a DNS issue where it can't get the number for the name.
[03:20] <Rothbardian21> fattire: yea it says unknown host.
[03:20] <fattire> okay try this
[03:20] <fattire> do you know how to use nano?  or gedit?
[03:21] <Rothbardian21> fattire: isn't gedit just like notepad basically?
[03:21] <fattire> yes
[03:21] <fattire> try typing this
[03:21] <Rothbardian21> k
[03:21] <fattire> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:21] <fattire> you should see a line that says something like
[03:21] <fattire> auto eth0
[03:21] <fattire> under that add:
[03:22] <fattire> dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:22] <fattire> this will tell it to use google's nameservers by default
[03:22] <fattire> then after you saved that you just restart the network with two lines:
[03:22] <fattire> sudo ifdown eth0
[03:22] <fattire> followed by
[03:23] <fattire> sudo ifup eth0
[03:23] <fattire> or you could use
[03:23] <fattire> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[03:23] <Rothbardian21> fattire: ok, it opened gedit, and it says "auto lo."
[03:23] <fattire> and sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[03:23] <fattire> add the dns-nameservers line
[03:23] <fattire> add add auto eth0 while you're at it
[03:23] <fattire> so have it say
[03:23] <fattire> auto lo
[03:23] <Rothbardian21> fattire: no server info is listed, it does say interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[03:24] <fattire> auto eth0
[03:24] <fattire> dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:24] <fattire> add that to your interfaces file
[03:24] <Rothbardian21> ok, so edit it with auto etho,
[03:24] <fattire> it's not etho with an o
[03:24] <fattire> it's eth0
[03:24] <fattire> zero
[03:24] <fattire> in fact let me look at my file one sec
[03:24] <johefernan> eth0
[03:24] <Rothbardian21> gotcha
[03:25] <fattire> yeah...  the most important part is the dns-nameservers line
[03:25] <Rothbardian21> fattire: on adding the dns servers to my interface line, where should I place it, the line begins with # interfaces(5)
[03:26] <fattire> add it to the end
[03:26] <Rothbardian21> and leave the ifup(8) and ifupdown (8) alone, put it after those?
[03:26] <fattire> yes
[03:26] <Rothbardian21> ifupdown(8)*
[03:26] <Rothbardian21> k
[03:27] <fattire> Rothbardian21: I also found a place you can set this in the UI
[03:27] <Rothbardian21> got it
[03:27] <fattire> if you go under Settings->Network
[03:27] <fattire> Wired->
[03:27] <Rothbardian21> ok...
[03:28] <fattire> Wired Connection...  IPV4 settings--> Additional DNS servers
[03:28] <fattire> you can add
[03:28] <fattire> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:28] <fattire> make sure method says automatic (DHCP) assuming that's how your router is working
[03:29] <Rothbardian21> fattire: it says error editing connection, "did not find a connection with UUID '(null)'."
[03:30] <fattire> Rothbardian21: what says this
[03:30] <fattire> the UI or gedit or somewher eelse?
[03:30] <Rothbardian21> But I know I can get to where your saying by going to edit connections
[03:30] <Rothbardian21> fattire: When i try to click on options under system settings/network/wired
[03:30] <fattire> https://askubuntu.com/questions/590196/restore-wired-network-connection
[03:31] <fattire> maybe a configuration line got corrupted as it suggests in teh above askubuntu.com page?
[03:31] <fattire> you can check
[03:31] <Rothbardian21> k
[03:32] <Rothbardian21> I have gedit ready to save, and I suppose I coul dmanually add the network again through edit connections. I beieve thats how I originally did it.
[03:33] <Rothbardian21> fattire: also still investigating the link you sent me, looks line they went in to the files and used gedit to restore correct mac address.
[03:33] <fattire> yeah... you can try doing that
[03:34] <Rothbardian21> file manager crashing : P
[03:35] <fattire> wow stuff is messed up
[03:35] <Rothbardian21> Yea, I wonder if its the macbuntu transformation packs. Though I have to say they are the main reason for me having ubuntu, looks amazing.
[03:36] <Rothbardian21> It doesn't show anything under my etc folder.
[03:37] <fattire> you must have stuff under /etc
[03:37] <fattire> or else... nothing would work
[03:37] <linocisco> hi all
[03:37] <linocisco> how to install telegram?
[03:37] <fattire> okay I'm gonna go.. good luck roth
[03:37] <linocisco> I tried to install as per http://sourcedigit.com/16949-install-telegram-via-ppa-on-ubuntu-15-04-ubuntu-14-04-linux-mint/
[03:37] <fattire> you just need to get dns going :)
[03:37] <linocisco> but i can't find how to launch
[03:38] <Rothbardian21> fattire: I click on computer, then etc, nothing there.
[03:38] <Rothbardian21> nevermind, it finally loaded, just took a long while.
[03:38] <fattire> ;)
[03:40] <Rothbardian21> fattire: I click on either my SSID or the "wired connection 1", on both accounts it says "Could not display, the file is of an unknown type."
[03:41] <arunpyasi> Guyts, did final beta got released ?
[03:42] <reisio> arunpyasi: does the answer to that question get you something?
[03:42] <stormmore> today’s messed up question, how can curl http://archive.ubuntu.com work but curl http://www.ubuntu.com not?
[03:42] <Rothbardian21> Tried to open it with gedit, says "you do not have the permissions necessary to open this file."
[03:42] <Gallomimia> you have a permissions problem
[03:42] <reisio> stormmore: well, they're different strings
[03:42] <arunpyasi> reisio: yes, I would like to try it out :D
[03:43] <arunpyasi> reisio: I see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/xenial/beta-2/ but no idea which to pick for my desktop experience.
[03:44] <stormmore> yeah I get that reisio, but DNS is working, a machine in the same rack works fine. I know it is something I have messed up just trying to determine where to look
[03:44] <vaindil> I have a python script that's running as a daemon with supervisor. Very simple script, it calls an API every 5 minutes. The response is somehow being cached, however. I can reproduce this outside the script/daemon in the python shell, so I don't think it's related to python.
[03:44] <vaindil> If I change a meaningless part of the URL it pulls the data just fine.
[03:45] <fattire> Rothbardian21: you have to sudo if you edit the file
[03:45] <vaindil> Anyone know what could be caching the response? I don't even know where to look.
[03:46] <reisio> arunpyasi: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[03:46] <bluefive> When I type ENCRYPTFS in my terminal nothing happens.
[03:46] <bluefive> Command not found.
[03:46] <reisio> stormmore: what're you even trying to do?
[03:46] <reisio> bluefive: ecryptfs (don't ask)
[03:47] <bluefive> Oh
[03:47] <Rothbardian21> How would I open it with sudo under terminal, I don't see a "sudo" option with right-clicking the file or using the GUI.
[03:47] <reisio> Rothbardian21: gksu or pkexec
[03:47] <bluefive> ecryptfsd is not installed.
[03:47] <bluefive> If I have home dir encrypted how can that be?
[03:48] <RonWhoCares> I've received an error.  Can anyone help resolve it http://askubuntu.com/questions/749833/unable-to-load-pgadmin3
[03:48] <fattire> bluefive: it's case sensitive
[03:48] <reisio> bluefive: 'ecryptfs'
[03:48] <fattire> Rothbardian21: you start a command with "sudo" (do as superuser)
[03:48] <fattire> this checks to make sure you're the administrator and if so will do it with root privilages
[03:49] <fattire> as seen here https://xkcd.com/149/
[03:49] <bluefive> reisio: That does nothing in the terminal.
[03:49] <bluefive> Says the program isn't installed.
[03:49] <fattire> bluefive: you have asked several times if your directory is encrypted and we all agree that it isn't.
[03:49] <bluefive> LOL.
[03:49] <stormmore> and then the brainwave hits me, archive.ubuntu.com has IPv6 enabled and the system choose ipv6 over the ipv4. www.ubuntu.com is only returning ipv4 and the ipv4 route is failing :-/
[03:50] <bluefive> fattire: when i first put Ubuntu on the mSATA I am sure I enabled home dir encryption. However I couldn't for the life of me remember if I started over fresh WITHOUT encryption.
[03:50] <Rothbardian21> fattire: I got that much, but I couldn't install gksu of course.
[03:50] <fattire> bluefive you aren't.
[03:50] <ouroumov> bluefive, move on already
[03:51] <bluefive> ouroumov: Just making sure the system is not dragging because of encryption.
[03:51] <ouroumov> You did that already bluefive
[03:52] <bluefive> Well then I'll take your word for it.
[03:52] <Rothbardian21> Manually adding the connection now, just lik eyou said and like I would of thought, ethernet shoul djust work.
[03:52] <fattire> wait a second, bluefive are you encrypted?
[03:54] <fattire> I'm crying with joy at my launcher on the bottom 16.04
[03:54] <fattire> though the upgrade was horrible.
[03:55] <ouroumov> Ubuntu MATE Beta 2 is out!
[03:55] <fattire> ubuntu standard is out too
[03:55] <fattire> but beware unless you like shit crashing don't do it yet
[04:04] <jej> hello can i ask a question
[04:05] <jej> can i transfer persistent data from live usb to another?
[04:05] <stormmore> yes
[04:06] <jej> how can i do that?
[04:06] <NERV> one way is FTP
[04:06] <stormmore> just mount the 2nd one, depending on the live cd it might even automount
[04:07] <reisio> jej: just copy it
[04:07] <NERV> :Quit
[04:07] <stormmore> I am generally not the best at non-command line tricks :)
[04:07] <jej> what file to copy? i used the ubuntu startup disk creator to create live usb with persistence
[04:08] <reisio> jej: files are files, you copy the ones you want
[04:10] <stormmore> resio I think I get what he is talking about
[04:11] <stormmore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[04:11] <reisio> stormmore: r-e-i-TAB
[04:11] <reisio> yes, persistence
[04:11] <jej> im just asking because my installation was deleted after updating software
[04:11] <stormmore> sorry reisio usuaully do :)
[04:12] <reisio> jej: wha?
[04:12] <stormmore> and apparently I can’t type to save myself today
[04:12] <jej> i have ubuntu liveusb, and tried to update softwares then reboot, but it says cannot find filesystem
[04:13] <stormmore> yeah well you could create another and then mount the first to grab any data you want off it
[04:14] <stormmore> most like you are having a different issue
[04:14] <jej> so i cant update packages when running off liveusb?
[04:15] <reisio> jej: not simply, no
[04:15] <reisio> not persistently
[04:15] <jej> how about install? i'm quite new to this obviously
[04:20] <reisio> jej: you can update easily from a non-"live" environment, yes
[04:20] <bluefive> ouroumov: What do you mean BETA 2?
[04:20] <bluefive> Of the next LTS?
[04:20] <bluefive> fattire: That's what I was trying to figure out...
[04:20] <bluefive> if I was encrypted or not.
[04:20] <bluefive> I installed the Ubuntu 2 months ago and forgot if I did so with or without home dir encryption.
[04:20] <fattire> I was kidding
[04:21] <fattire> But I am curious if you're encrypted
[04:21] <fattire> Again ^  kidding
[04:21] <fattire> But really, are you encrypted?
[04:21] <ouroumov> bluefive, yes. 16.04 Beta 2
[04:21] <fattire> That of course was a joke.
[04:21] <bluefive> ouroumov: Is it as stable as 15.10?
[04:21] <bluefive> I use Ubuntu MATE too.
[04:21] <fattire> I'm using it on my pi maybe I'll update that.
[04:21] <ouroumov> bluefive, it's not supposed to be
[04:22] <bluefive> ouroumov: So I should stay with 15.10 for now?
[04:22] <bluefive> ouroumov: If I want the beta can I get it from the auto updater in Ubuntu?
[04:23] <jej> reisio: i understand thanks!
[04:24] <hansai> 有中国用户吗
[04:24] <ouroumov> bluefive, you should read the release announcement off the website: https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-xenial-beta2/ and then decide what you want to do. :)
[04:24] <[an]onymous> http://adf.ly/1Yk9Jw Please tell me if this is real or not..
[04:24] <hansai> 嗨
[04:25] <bluefive> ouroumov: Can I upgrade my system to the beta using the software center?
[04:26] <reisio> hansai: #ubuntu-cn
[04:28] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[04:31] <ouroumov> bluefive, there's a way to do it, but I don't know what it is. I always do a clean reinstall from iso
[04:32] <bluefive> ouroumov: You mean you don'
[04:32] <bluefive> t upgrade your LTS to a new LTS? You start over 100%?
[04:33] <ouroumov> bluefive, yes.
[04:33] <ouroumov> After backing up my data, obviously
[04:34] <fattire> why?
[04:36] <bluefive> ouroumov: Must take you a lot of time reconfiguring everything though.
[04:36] <bluefive> Takes hours to get a system the way you like it.
[04:37] <fattire> my update bombed out and it's back working.. without reinstalling anything
[04:37] <fattire> except for the nvidia drivers
[04:37] <fattire> and systemd-sysv
[04:38] <ouroumov> bluefive, it takes me one hour max.
[04:39] <bluefive> ouroumov: To install all your programs as well etc?
[04:39] <ouroumov> Yes
[04:39] <bluefive> ouroumov: And all your Firefox addons and everything configured jut as you like it?
[04:40] <[an]onymous> Anyone tell me if this image is real...? http://adf.ly/1Yk9Jw
[04:40] <ouroumov> Yes. Usually the longest to set up is thunderbird.
[04:41] <ouroumov> ( I do post-update and initial software installation on a high bandwidth connection, though. )
[04:43] <reisio> [an]onymous: eh?
[04:45] <bluefive> ouroumov: Well, that's impressive.
[04:45] <bluefive> You must backup all your data and bookmarks.
[04:45] <bluefive> Do you use a special app to do that?
[04:45] <[an]onymous> Anyone tell me if this image is real...? http://adf.ly/1Yk9Jw
[04:46] <reisio> good ole K
[04:47] <ouroumov> bluefive: No. I have a separate /home partition.
[04:47] <bluefive> ouroumov: So you just copy your /home to a flash drive?
[04:49] <ouroumov> bluefive, I have an incremental backup of /home on an external HDD. That's in case something goes very wrong. If the install goes without major problem only the system partition is formatted/rewritten and the /home is intact after the installation.
[04:50] <fattire> what was that image from [an]?  I'm afraid to click it..
[04:51] <reisio> fattire: just good ole fashioned spam
[04:51] <fattire> oh okay
[04:51] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[04:51] <reisio> hey just yous
[04:51] <FuriousGeorge> is step 1 of these docs still vailid for ubuntu 15?
[04:51] <FuriousGeorge> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[04:53] <FuriousGeorge> i have an eth0 iface defined in a sub directory, i think what I'll do is move everything into the main interfaces file
[04:54] <fattire> FuriousGeorge: or edit the subdirecory if you can
[04:54] <fattire> the file in teh subdirectory I mean
[04:56] <FuriousGeorge> fattire: i would have to add another interface file for br0 if i were to do it right
[04:56] <FuriousGeorge> wouldn't i?
[04:56] <FuriousGeorge> then there is that bit about dropping eth0 and bringing it back up, which im not sure if it should remain in the main file
[04:56] <FuriousGeorge> i guess ill try it that way first
[04:57] <fattire> FuriousGeorge: yeah I think so I set up openvpn a while back on a headless server..
[04:57] <fattire> let me quickly see how I did it
[04:58] <FuriousGeorge> looks like what i should do is replace the contents of eth0.cfg with the latter half of that example file in step 1
[04:58] <FuriousGeorge> and create a br0 with the first half
[04:58] <FuriousGeorge> while making sure to automatically bring up the interface in the main faile
[04:58] <FuriousGeorge> main file
[04:58] <fattire> FuriousGeorge: strangely I don't see any changes to interfaces or anything in interfaces.d
[04:59] <fattire> although it is working
[04:59] <FuriousGeorge> fattire: ur probably using the bridge-start script
[04:59] <FuriousGeorge> are you in a vps?
[05:00] <fattire> oh yeah that's why
[05:00] <fattire> that's totally why-- it's linode and it sets that file automatically
[05:01] <fattire> so it would have overwritten it...
[05:05] <FuriousGeorge> i wodner if GCE gonna overwrite my now working setup
[05:05] <arch-nemesis> I noticed in the RC for ubuntu 16.04 vim is compiled without python support. Will this be changed once released?
[05:05] <FuriousGeorge> except i have no tap interface, i need one of those im pretty sure
[05:07] <bluefive> Found two more reviews of Zboxes where the units died after 1 month.
[05:07] <bluefive> One man says "same here. died after 32 days."
[05:08] <bluefive> What does Ubuntu have to say about the incredibly unreliable hardware being produced by Zotac?
[05:08] <salamanderrake> how do I disable the screenlock feature in ubuntu?
[05:08] <salamanderrake> *unity
[05:10] <EOBeav> There used to be a way to create an ubuntu install so that the end user would be able to create their own username and login upon first boot. Is this not available anymore?  Currently running 14.04
[05:11] <fattire> salamanderrake: isn't that in settings somewhere?
[05:35] <kaslam_> heya
[05:35] <kaslam_> howzit?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> kaslam_: how can we help you?
[05:36] <kaslam_> thanks
[05:37] <kaslam_> I have been trying to send some data to my jumpdrive
[05:44] <kaslam_> but it keeps telling me that the device is showing Error splicing file: Input/output error
[05:44] <kaslam_> I also tried to format it but keeps failing with the same error
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> kaslam_: IO errors are bad news in many cases
[05:45] <kaslam_> yeah
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> kaslam_: maybe a full hd test, to check out its health?
[05:45] <kaslam_> yeah I used hdparm
[05:48] <kargonoxol> Am I slowing down my browser by having ublock and adblock plus and noscript all running together?
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> kargonoxol: yes
[05:50] <kargonoxol> Which one of those 3 do you prefer?
[05:50] <kargonoxol> I think just 1 should be best.
[05:50] <kargonoxol> Also have Ghostery.
[05:50] <kargonoxol> A lot of websites aren't working fully.
[05:50] <kargonoxol> Testing.
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> kargonoxol: script blocking addons, will try to block stuff and youl need tweaking of different websites
[05:50] <mojtaba> Keepass2 does not work and when I execute it, a window will suddenly open and close. Do you know how can I fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15478309/
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> kargonoxol: discuss in #firefox channel perhaps
[05:50] <kargonoxol> lotuspsychje, Yes, but was I right that multiple script blocking addons = slower browsing?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> kargonoxol: yes
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> kargonoxol: vanilla firefox with tweaked settings should be fastest
[05:52] <bluefive> ALL addons slow it down?]
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> bluefive: i didnt say all, addblockers will need to be tuned and slow down stuff yes
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> bluefive: discuss in #firefox please
[05:54] <bluefive> yes, i'm in Firefox now.
[05:55] <FuriousGeorge> has anyone ever tried to move a kvm to google's cloud services?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !kvm | FuriousGeorge
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> FuriousGeorge: think you better look for specific channel for that
[05:57] <FuriousGeorge> i was just wondering.  not actually trying to do it.  but it seems very doable
[06:09] <bredf> list
[06:09] <baizon> bredf: ?
[06:15] <DirtyCajun> i have 2 ethernet ports bonded together. do i have to stop doing that to create a bridge?
[06:16] <Triffid_Hunter> DirtyCajun: I believe so, bridge and bond are fairly similar with subtle differences - bridge forwards packets from one port to the other, bond does not. both present the two ports as a single port to the host
[06:16] <DirtyCajun> Triffid_Hunter: but you can have a bridge with only a single port
[06:17] <DirtyCajun> so could there be a sneaky way to make my bridge think my single port is my bond?
[06:17] <Triffid_Hunter> DirtyCajun: you can have a bond with only a single port too, then add and remove other ports at runtime
[06:17] <DirtyCajun> ah. that makes sense
[06:19] <tttttttttttttttt> hi...i want mount my ntfs partition but i receive this error plz help me .... mount: only root can use "--types" option
[06:19] <tttttttttttttttt> reza_sam@admin:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/ntfs_stick
[06:19] <tttttttttttttttt> sudo: unable to resolve host admin
[06:19] <tttttttttttttttt> [sudo] password for reza_sam:
[06:19] <tttttttttttttttt> The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[06:19] <tttttttttttttttt> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[06:19] <ubuntu-mate> hu
[06:23] <reza_admin> hi .i want mount my ntfs partition but i receive this error plz help me >>> mount: only root can use "--types" option reza_sam@admin:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/ntfs_stick sudo: unable to resolve host admin [sudo] password for reza_sam: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.Failed to mount '/dev/sda5': Operation not permitted The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume
[06:23] <reza_admin> and shutdownWindows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[06:23] <reza_admin> plz help me tnx
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !mount | reza_admin
[06:44] <shockvalu> could someone point me to best place to get started to contribute back, help with bugs, questions, etc.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | shockvalu
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> shockvalu: you can support here,aksubuntu,ubuntu forums,solve bugs in launchpad, the options are endless
[06:47] <shockvalu> perfect,  wasnt sure there was a specific registery to go through.
[06:47] <shockvalu> !contribute | shockvalu
[06:54] <bluefive> Why dosen't the System Monitor show me my CPU temperatures?
[06:55] <baizon> bluefive: https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature
[07:03] <CYGenre> Hey everyone..
[07:04] <The_Wood_> Anyone have any ideas why i could SSH into a machine using a local address (10.0.0.whatever) but not to its external IP address?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> The_Wood_: maybe the #openssh guys might help you with that
[07:04] <CYGenre> no idea
[07:04] <CYGenre> I'm new to ubuntu
[07:04] <The_Wood_> didn't know that was a channel, good call
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !manual | CYGenre start here
[07:05] <CYGenre> awesome
[07:05] <CYGenre> ubottu: thanks
[07:05] <Dylan____> Hello guys i need some help im just installed ubuntu on my macbook 2010 and im not had a problem installing the wifi driver bapprently after i installed cario dock and got the unity laucher tool it seems my internet has got
[07:05] <CYGenre> ugh
[07:05] <CYGenre> of course
[07:06] <Dylan____> Like stuffed and now it says theres no wifi detected around me and my router is fine and things
[07:06] <CYGenre> I can already do that stuff, I'm mainly here to gain a sense of installing programs properly in terminal. I have some use with it but I'm still just starting out in that respect as well
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: you can sudo apt-get install yourpackage from terminal
[07:07] <CYGenre> Dylan____: which macbook and which version of ubuntu?
[07:07] <CYGenre> i just put trusty tahr on my 7,1
[07:07] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: thank you
[07:09] <Jaggro> guys I'm having an issue of my modifier keys getting randomly pressed. Can anyone help?
[07:09] <lolusux> hi what is the safest way of running a webserver on linux?
[07:10] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: do I also need to know it's repository? or are they all in the same one?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: you can search the repos with apt-cache search keyword
[07:11] <Dylan____> A macbook 7,1 2010 and using ubuntu 14.04.3
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: all packages versions for your ubuntu version will show
[07:11] <CYGenre> Dylan____: that's basically the same setup I have
[07:11] <Dylan____> Same i just fixed it must have been a conflicting wifi network
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | lolusux
[07:11] <Dylan____> Idk :/
[07:11] <CYGenre> Dylan____:  I opted for side by side though
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Dylan____: try to update to latest
[07:11] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: okay, I will give that a go
[07:12] <Dylan____> I didnt understand osx and i couldnt wipe it so i stuffed up like the osx and i cant reinstall it dont have the disks so i went with linux
[07:12] <CYGenre> ouch
[07:12] <Dylan____> Like i had to wipe from a network install which tookforever and gave up so i took to linux instead
[07:13] <Dylan____> Same thing happened to my hp i didnt do my research and my 8.1 partiton got wiped alongside the recovery partiton so i had to install windows 10 from an iso
[07:13] <CYGenre> in osx, providing you have a working apple id you should be able to at least download mountain lion for free from apple and go from there
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> keep it ubuntu related guys
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[07:13] <Dylan____> Anyways what has ubuntu been upto lately
[07:13] <CYGenre> all apologies
[07:14] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: sorry to ask so many questions but I have just one more
[07:14] <Dylan____> Cygenre i can help?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: sure, thats what this channel is for
[07:14] <Ozeragb> i have a doubt on windows 10
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> Ozeragb: not here please
[07:15] <Ozeragb> then this page is dedicated to ubuntu only?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Ozeragb: yes, for ubuntu support questions
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Ozeragb: you can chichat in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-duscuss if you like
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> * #ubuntu-discuss
[07:16] <Dylan____> Hey lotus quick question how come chromium doesnt come up in software center even though im got all repoistorys
[07:16] <Ozeragb> I use this ubuntu studio through pendrive i want to install it but i already have two os in my laptop 2 gb ram. how should i delete one of them and add ubuntu
[07:16] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: I'm running 10gigs of ram and at times use can be a bit laggy.. my swap partition is 2gigs. I feel this should be adequate but still, there's lag from time to time. especially when running firefox in fullscreen with less than 3 tabs open. Should I be concerned about this?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Dylan____: right packagename? chromium-browser
[07:16] <Dylan____> Ok thanks
[07:17] <Seveas> Ozeragb: the amount of ram is irrelevant for that, as you only use one OS at the time. But diskspace might matter.
[07:17] <Jaggro> anyone have any ideas about why my machine thinks im pressing alt or ctrl randomly?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: did you check if you have right graphics driver active?
[07:17] <Ozeragb> so how to delete anyone of them and install ubuntu?
[07:17] <Seveas> Jaggro: your keyboard is dying. Get a new one :)
[07:17] <CYGenre> there's nothing on my disk except for the ubuntu itself, it's a fresh install, i've downloaded nor imported nothing
[07:18] <Jaggro> Seveas, it's a brand new comp and it works fine in windows
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: that doesnt mean it has best driver
[07:18] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: to the best of my knowledge it is the best suited but I could give it another look i suppose
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: check your additional drivers please? wich one is active
[07:19] <CYGenre> at the moment im not sure, i dual boot and am in my alternative os at the moment
[07:19] <Ozeragb> seveas: how to delete one os and install ubuntu?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: ok
[07:19] <CYGenre> i can however go over all the details shortly and jump back into this channel
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: good idea
[07:20] <CYGenre> would you all be able to recommend a worthy irc client for my ubuntu installation?..
[07:20] <Ozeragb> guys a little help here
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: depends what you like, irssi, hexchat,..
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> !patience | Ozeragb
[07:21] <Ozeragb> ok ok thanks
[07:21] <CYGenre> i use limechat currently
[07:21] <CYGenre> the ui is smooth and it's served me well
[07:22] <Jaggro> I use hexchat CYGenre
[07:22] <CYGenre> i've heard good things about hexchat but never delved into it
[07:23] <CYGenre> i'll make note of this
[07:24] <Jaggro> I like it. it's lightweight and has tons of options
[07:24] <CYGenre> lightweight is key
[07:25] <CYGenre> i'm gonna head over to my ubuntu installation now and see what i can assess of my drivers... then download a decent client for irc
[07:25] <CYGenre> might get lost for a while but at the very least i'll be back later
[07:26] <CYGenre> thank you all for your help, i'm looking forward to everything i can learn here
[07:26] <CYGenre> lotuspsychje: Dylan____ thank you both for your help
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> CYGenre: good luck, and welcome to the community
[07:27] <CYGenre> Many thanks
[07:36] <DavidFromBE> could anyone sucessfully use official amd drivers on ubuntu 15.10 ? x segfaults here, any help ?
[07:36] <Dro> how can i solve this : mount: /dev/sdc6: can't read superblock
[07:36] <Dro>  ?
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> DavidFromBE: you mean amdgpu/radeon or amd drivers from their site?
[07:49] <iputra> hi
[07:49] <iputra> i want too ask
[07:49] <DavidFromBE> lotuspsychje: from their site
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> DavidFromBE: those are not supported anymore
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> DavidFromBE: try the opensource drivers from ubuntu instead
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> Dro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/539880/cant-mount-an-ide-hdd-cant-read-superblock-error-message
[07:50] <DavidFromBE> those work
[07:50] <iputra> i want ask a question, how to download package and all dependecies with "apt-get download" ?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> iputra: if you apt-get download package, and install it later it will install dependecies anyway
[07:52] <sebbu> you can always try to use apt-get build-dep
[07:52] <sebbu> (btw, i don't have apt-get download, but i do have apt-get install -d)
[07:54] <iputra> lotuspsychje: but i want download in one time
[07:54] <iputra> lotuspsychje: because i don't have high speed internet and just have a bit bandwith
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> iputra: maybe aptoncd is interesting for you then?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | iputra
[07:56] <iputra> ubottu:
[07:56] <iputra> ubottu: oke i will try
[07:57] <iputra> i think you aren't a bot
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> iputra: another idea is update your system in public wifi
[08:03] <nonoy> hi
[08:05] <iputra> nonoy: hello
[08:32] <boomernang> Hi. About to buy a computer with a 120GB ssd and a 1TB hdd.. Basically I want to have / on the ssd and a custom partition/folder for the 1TB. Is this best to setup in the install? If so, how?
[08:35] <LibreSponge> boomernang: Use gparted first .. use ' / ' for root partition.
[08:35] <ubuntu> hi
[08:35] <LibreSponge> Laney but unlikely ubuntu
[08:36] <Guest68398> how can i install vmware tools?
[08:36] <LibreSponge> Guest28979: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines
[08:38] <Guest68398> LibreSponge:  there is  no option to click on install vmware tools
[08:38] <boomernang> LibreSponge: and how do i make say /storage to not have root permission, just my user in gparted?
[08:38] <LibreSponge> Guest28979: Bing is your friend. https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vmware-player-on-ubuntu-11.04-linux-mint-11
[08:39] <Guest68398> LibreSponge:  what is bing?? i want ubuntu 15.10
[08:39] <LibreSponge> boomernang: All I know is you can "Label partitions" 'boot etc' thats all I know.
[08:40] <LibreSponge> Guest68398: https://www.bing.com/search?q=VM+on+Linux&go=Submit&qs=n&pq=vm+on+linux&sc=0-19&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=16958E570CBD45AE89E513E2BD3AD802&first=21&FORM=PORE
[08:41] <boomernang> ok thanks LibreSponge
[08:42] <LibreSponge> Guest68398: http://linuxg.net/?s=virtual+machine&submit=Go
[08:43] <LibreSponge> boomernang: No worries - but sure to share n'all !
[08:43] <Guest68398> LibreSponge:  ok thanks but none of them working here
[08:44] <Guest68398> I dont even see cd
[08:44] <LibreSponge> Guest28979: Download the Iso to the downloads, install VM using linuxg.net - run VM , right ?
[08:47] <pang> hi
[08:48] <pang> 有人吗
[08:49] <LibreSponge> pang, Hiya
[08:50] <pang> can you speak chinese?
[08:51] <Guest68398> 有人吗
[08:51] <pang> 有人
[08:51] <Guest68398> ..l..  indian style
[08:51] <pang> 我以为这里都是外国人
[08:52] <pang> 第一次用这个软件
[08:52] <Guest68398> gangam style
[08:55] <pang> hi
[08:55] <pang> hi
[08:55] <CY_Genre> lotuspsychje, back, and decided to get hexchat
[08:56] <CY_Genre> lotuspsychje, went over the drivers and you were correct
[08:59] <pang> ping
[09:00] <Kartagis> !info android  trusty
[09:02] <pang> Client quit
[09:03] <dreamaddict> does anyone know autoconf/automake very well?
[09:03] <sasa> ciao
[09:03] <CY_Genre> cant say that I do
[09:03] <sasa> !list
[09:03] <CY_Genre> I'm uber new here
[09:03] <dreamaddict> I am trying to build libvorbis from ogg vorbis, and there is a strange bug in the build configs
[09:04] <Kartagis> ANDROID_HOME=$HOME/android-sdk-linux is in my .bashrc and Failed to find 'ANDROID_HOME' environment variable is the error I get. how come?
[09:04] <CY_Genre> i have a few questions about trusty tahr on MBP 7,1
[09:05] <CY_Genre> !manual
[09:11] <mikeloud_> Kartagis: did you export it and restart your terminal?
[09:11] <Kartagis> mikeloud_: aye
[09:13] <moyu> ......
[09:13]  * Kartagis sings "shineonyoucrazydiamond"
[09:14] <mikeloud_> Kartagis: did the stackoverflow stuff on google not work for you?
[09:14] <mikeloud_> or did you try it?
[09:14] <mikeloud_> there's a couple of extra variables I see them setting
[09:15] <bluefive> Any downside to installing CPU censors in my Ubuntu install?
[09:15] <bluefive> How come by default the hardware manager doesn't have the sensors for CPU temp installed?
[09:16] <mikeloud_> it could be missing the drivers for it
[09:16] <sevenup__> I guess it's because they're not always work
[09:17] <nickz> some channel needs to have invitation to join, how to get it?
[09:18] <samurai99> bluefive: why do you feel that you need CPU censors? does your box usually run hot?
[09:20] <bluefive> I want to know the temperature difference when I have my mini PC sitting on an external fan that is turned on
[09:20] <bluefive> vs turned off.
[09:20] <bluefive> For some reason the top of my mini PC (like a NUC) feels cooler after I've had it sitting with the fan turned on
[09:20] <bluefive> vs turned off.
[09:21] <bluefive> I don't know why since the fan is just blowing on the bottom of the motherboard. The CPU is on the other side.
[09:21] <samurai99> hmmm
[09:22] <samurai99> that's odd
[09:22] <Dro> how can i solve this : mount: /dev/sdc6: can't read superblock ?
[09:23] <bluefive> It's also blowing the CPU exhaust away faster
[09:23] <bluefive> by blowing up. The exhaust comes out the side at the top of the box.
[09:23] <xenialxerus> How install mysql server on ubuntu 16.04?
[09:23] <bluefive> My fan is an AC Infinity external box fan. It's blowing UP. My unit is the MSI Cubi NUC-like mini PC.
[09:23] <samurai99> do you know how to install the sensors?
[09:24] <bluefive> The MSI cubi has some vents in the bottom of the unit, but the bottom of the unit is the underside of the motherboard where the memory and mSATA and wi-fi card are plugged in.
[09:24] <Seveas> Dro: if there's supposed to be data on there, it's time to restore from backups.
[09:24] <xenialxerus> My mysql installation keep returning error message. It said it cant set/change password for mysql root user
[09:24] <Dro> Seveas, i have no backup :(
[09:25] <bluefive> The top of the board on the other side of the motherboard is where the CPU and heatsink and fan are.
[09:25] <bluefive> samurai99, Yes. I saw a webpage that says how. Do you think there is any disadvantage to having them installed?
[09:25] <bluefive> I wonder why by default they aren't installed.
[09:25] <Seveas> Dro: then it's time to weep. And break out dd_rescue and photorec.
[09:26] <samurai99> bluefive: I don't see any disadvantage. Just like most sensors aren't automatically installed when you do a fresh install of windows. User preference
[09:27] <bluefive> samurai99, Well, the sensors are only going to be on when I explicitly call them from a hardware monitor program, right?
[09:28] <samurai99> not if you load them as an applet
[09:28] <bluefive> I just don't like bulk. Same reason I don't like the home dir encryption Ubuntu allows you to install.
[09:29] <bluefive> I mean, I don't want something constantly probing my CPU for its temperature. You're saying it will only do that when I have the applet explicitly open.
[09:30] <bluefive> I do believe the external fan is taking the load off the internal fan.
[09:30] <bluefive> My unit feels noticeably cooler to the touch.
[09:30] <bluefive> Could simply be that it's getting the hot exhaust away from the unit much quicker.
[09:30] <bluefive> Blowing that hot exhaust straight up as soon as it comes out.
[09:31] <samurai99> im not sure. I don't use any mini pcs
[09:31] <samurai99> did you see the link I sent you?
[09:32] <bluefive> Could even be that some of the air blowing into the unit is making its way to the other side of the motherboard and then bouncing off the top of the case onto the CPU.
[09:32] <bluefive> It's hard to say.
[09:32] <bluefive> Yes. I went there to install the sensors.
[09:32] <samurai99> ok
[09:32] <bluefive> This will show me what effect the fan is having.
[09:32] <bluefive> One task I do that gets my unit working hard is the Ubuntu software update.
[09:33] <bluefive> I've got quite a powerful 1.9 GHz CPU that really gets called into action when all my software is checked for updates.
[09:34] <samurai99> you have an internal fan right? shouldn't be an issue.
[09:36] <nightwalk> @bluefive are you worried your pc might get damaged by the heat?
[09:37] <sevenup__> but you can install sensors to get that info
[09:39] <sevenup__> I bet there's some applets to know temperature
[09:39] <bluefive> That's esp powerful given the tiny enclosure it sits in.
[09:39] <bluefive> You can see how that stresses the internal fan.
[09:39] <bluefive> Just ran the update and by the end of it the internal fan was ramped up and really pushing out the hot exhaust.
[09:39] <bluefive> samurai99,
[09:39] <bluefive> Can I use these sensors to adjust the fan control?
[09:39] <bluefive> "Running fancontrol when booting should work out of the box. After installing lm-sensors, the fancontrol script is treated as a service and should be found under /etc/init.d/fancontrol."
[09:39] <Kartagis> wee
[09:40] <Kartagis> netsplit
[09:40] <samurai99> just apt-get sensors-applet
[09:44] <Bin4ry> anyone on gnome can suggest a tiling solution
[09:45] <bluefive> "Remote host closed socket"
[09:45] <bluefive> Does this mean the server pulled my connection?
[09:55] <bluefives> Appears my server went down.
[09:57] <bluefives> Ahh
[09:58] <bluefives> A nice way to figure out if you have home dir encryption enabled is to go to the System Monitor and see if you have ecryptfs running.
[09:58] <bluefives> I forgot about not hitting enter after every line. Apologies.
[10:01] <BlankSpace> hi
[10:07] <BlankSpace> helllo
[10:08] <BlankSpace> anyone here?
[10:09] <BlankSpace> join #newbie
[10:09] <BlankSpace> join /#newbie
[10:10] <BlankSpace> I need some help
[10:11] <ikonia> just ask
[10:11] <Ben64> explain the issue in as much detail as possible
[10:11] <ikonia> rather than keep stating that you need help - just state what you need help with
[10:11] <ikonia> if it's ubuntu related this channel will help
[10:11] <ikonia> (if it can)
[10:11] <BlankSpace> Its not ubuntu related.
[10:11] <BlankSpace> I am relatively new to this chat.
[10:12] <BlankSpace> Can i ask in pvt if you dont mind?
[10:12] <ikonia> no
[10:12] <ikonia> sorry
[10:12] <ikonia> this channel only deals with ubuntu issues
[10:12] <BlankSpace> please
[10:12] <ikonia> if you /join #freenode they can teach you how to use IRC and find the best channgles, also see freenode.net
[10:14] <BlankSpace> ok.thanks..
[10:16] <xenialxerus> I got this error when I tried to install mysql on Ubuntu 16.04, http://imgur.com/yPiZwnF. Anyone?
[10:17] <ikonia> xenialxerus: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 discussion
[10:19] <BlankSpace> ok how can i remove all r packages on ubuntu
[10:19] <BlankSpace> and reinstall it
[10:19] <BlankSpace> I have tried uninstalling
[10:19] <BlankSpace> but when i type R.it still shows its version
[10:19] <ikonia> what ?
[10:19] <ikonia> whaen you "type R"
[10:19] <zol> I'm stuck at grub_rescue with "error: unknown filesystem". I've tried the insmod normal approach: "set root=(hd0,1); set prefix=(hd0,1)/boot/grub; insmod normal; normal" I get the same error message again and now I can't boot into my live cd on a usb anymore.
[10:20] <zol> What can I do? I can't get past grub_rescue.
[10:20] <ikonia> look at the file system
[10:20] <ikonia> is it there ? can it be mounted ?
[10:21] <zol> ls in grub rescue shows "(hd0) (hd0, msdos1)"
[10:21] <ikonia> appreciate that, but not quite what I asked
[10:21] <abhishek> hi guys
[10:21] <zol> ikonia: I can't even boot into live cd.
[10:21] <ikonia> zol: so thats nothing to do with grub/your install
[10:22] <ikonia> it sounds like you have a more serious problem
[10:22] <abhishek>  I was trying to install matlab from iso in kubuntu
[10:22] <abhishek> I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/2GJu9ySe
[10:22] <abhishek> any suggestions :)
[10:22] <ikonia> nautlius is not in kubuntu
[10:22] <ikonia> it's a gnome component
[10:22] <zol> ikonia: I COULD boot into it, but after changing prefix/root I can't anymore. Is there a way to reset them?
[10:23] <ikonia> again, this is not what I"m asking
[10:23] <ikonia> can you mount the file system grub is complaining is an unknown file system
[10:23] <abhishek> ikonia: thx for reply. How can I fix this?
[10:23] <frostschutz> zol, if it's (hd0,msdos1), then write it (hd0,msdos1) and not (hd0,1)
[10:23] <ikonia> abhishek: I'd change the install routine
[10:24] <ikonia> abhishek: installing nautlius just for that is bad, it will pull in a LOT of stuff into your KDE environment
[10:24] <zol> frostschutz: Thanks.
[10:24] <ikonia> abhishek: the process is mounting the ISO as a file system then trying to open a gui file browser
[10:24] <abhishek> ikonia: change nautilus "$mountFolder" to what? I am unaware of nautlius
[10:24] <ikonia> abhishek: just use the kde/kubuntu file browser
[10:24] <Ben64> abhishek: its a dumb script
[10:24] <zol> ikonia: Ok, I don't understand your question. Could you please rephrase it? How can I determine whether I can mount the file system inside grub rescue shell?
[10:25] <ikonia> not within grub rescue shell
[10:25] <frostschutz> zol, in the old notation it would actually be (hd0,0) but (hd0,msdos1) is better (if it's to be the first partition of a msdos partition table... with gpt partitions it would be (hd0,gpt1) or whatever
[10:27] <abhishek> ikonia: Ben64 Thanks!
[10:27] <zol> frostschutz: Right, thanks. Not sure how to get around grub rescue, changing the root to (hd0, msdos1) didn't make it work again. :/
[10:28] <frostschutz> zol, so it doesn't even give you the normal grub menu in the first place? might have to reinstall grub in that case
[10:28] <zol> frostschutz: Exactly. How can I do that if I can't boot from live cd via live usb?
[10:29] <frostschutz> uh, what do you boot then? :-O
[10:29] <ikonia> why can you not boot from a livecd
[10:29] <ikonia> as I said earlier if you can't boot live media - you have a more serious problem
[10:29] <frostschutz> you had to boot something to change whatever you changed?
[10:30] <xyzabcd> I am trying to find a gmail client in ubuntu that's shows me separate folders for primary, social and promotions. And notifies only if mail is received in the primary.
[10:30] <frostschutz> unless you had a very fine magnetized needle and electron microscope
[10:30] <zol> I managed to boot into live cd once, but then I rebooted and I tried changing root and prefix using (hd0,1) format, after that it stopped working booting into live cd.
[10:30] <ikonia> grub is nothing to do with the livecd
[10:30] <zol> Now it just boots into grub rescue shell and stays there.
[10:30] <ikonia> if you can't boot a livecd you have a more serious problem
[10:30] <xyzabcd> I have tried thunderbird and kmail so far. Any1 which does the job?
[10:32] <zol> Ok, I switched USB slot and rebooted, now I could access the live cd again.
[10:34] <zol> Shall I try to run boot-repair?
[10:34] <ikonia> nope
[10:49] <ysingh> hi
[10:50] <bluefives> Any security concerns to storing my bank passwords in Firefox if I am using a master password with my Firefox (encryption)?
[10:53] <scott__> Anyone have any experience with aport errors?
[10:54] <ikonia> why don't you just state your problem
[10:54] <scott__> ERROR: apport (pid 3069) Thu Mar 24 11:41:39 2016: called for pid 1372, signal 6, core limit 0
[10:56] <ikonia> so that looks to me like it's tried to collect data on a process thats already dead
[10:58] <scott__> is there any place that explains the pid numbers and what they stand for?
[10:58] <ikonia> they are process numbers
[10:58] <ikonia> and they stand for the process that owned them
[10:59] <scott__> thanks for your help.
[11:04] <zol> Guess I'll have t oassume that the disk died.
[11:06] <ikonia> why would you assume that ?
[11:11] <hhee> guys, how can i wrote usb stick from command line?
[11:11] <hhee> with ubuntu
[11:11] <ikonia> write what to a usb ?
[11:11] <hhee> ikonia, ubuntu iso
[11:11] <ikonia> use dd
[11:12] <hhee> ikonia, cool. which block size do i need to use?
[11:12] <hhee> ikonia, and does its matter?
[11:12] <ikonia> don't specify one,
[11:12] <ikonia> it can matter,
[11:12] <hhee> ikonia, ok tnx
[11:13] <RDX400> Hello, i need some help on this http://pastebin.com/HB54mEhC
[11:14] <frostschutz> hhee, use dd bs=1M unless you want dd to be slow; cp also works, cp file.iso /dev/usbstick
[11:14] <ikonia> frostschutz: pretty much what it says on the error - it's trying to access a crypt device (that references a physical device) that doesn't exist
[11:15] <frostschutz> ?
[11:17] <Guest51519> http://shrinkmy.com/ZFmSN1C6
[11:18] <hhee> guys, what really block size? and why its matter, can't understand
[11:18] <ikonia> it can cause an overlap
[11:18] <ikonia> it normally won't matter though
[11:21] <llutz> increasing dd-blocksize might speedup the process, default 512 is quite slow in most cases
[11:26] <hhee> ikonia, llutz tnx. guys. where can i read about this? block sizes disk geometry and so on?
[11:26] <Guest51519> http://shrinkmy.com/ZFmSN1C6
[11:26] <vert0let> !chrome-repo
[11:27] <llutz> hhee: standard answer: google helps :)
[11:28] <hhee> where can i get all such awesome command like chrome-repo ? :)
[11:28]  * hhee want to use it  :)
[11:28] <hhee> llutz, cool :)
[11:29] <frostschutz> hhee, by default dd reads 512 bytes, writes 512 bytes, reads 512 bytes, ... with bs=1M it read 1M, writes 1M, reads 1M, ... the end result is identical but it does the same with a lot fewer individual read/write operations... copying gigabytes ofdata in steps of 512 bytes is just horrible
[11:30] <hhee> frostschutz, tnx x10 for explanation! what i need.
[11:30] <Joe_Tablet> Macht spaß jaa
[11:31] <Joe_Tablet> ich mache das auf youtube lol
[11:31] <Joe_Tablet> IRC Prank
[11:31] <Joe_Tablet> ist voll spaßig
[11:31] <vert0let> schick mir mal den link via PN ^^
[11:31] <Joe_Tablet> dudufufc
[11:31] <Joe_Tablet> gugugu!
[11:32] <Joe_Tablet> tat chs i
[11:32] <Joe_Tablet> io ui piu !
[11:32] <Joe_Tablet> kick me?
[11:32] <vert0let> if only
[11:32] <Joe_Tablet> ifever!
[11:33] <vert0let> =D
[11:33] <hhee> anybody already tried new 16 lts ubuntu? guys is it stable?
[11:33] <llutz> hhee: #ubuntu+1 for that
[11:33] <vert0let> hopefully media-creator tool is bug-free again...
[11:33] <hhee> llutz, tnx
[11:36] <circle_> does anyone use openshot?
[11:36] <circle_> any idea how I'd export a video without sound?
[11:41] <ren0v0_> Hi, i'm using a DAC (SMSL Q5 Pro), but i'm getting constant cracking over USB. Is there something i'm supposed to do ?
[11:42] <ren0v0_> I get a ton of errors in syslog,   related ones like  >  [alsa-sink-USB Audio] alsa-util.c: Got POLLNVAL from ALSA
[11:42] <zol> How do you rename network interfaces in ubuntu 15.10?
[11:42] <ikonia> zol: never
[11:42] <ikonia> zol: why do you want to do that
[11:43] <zol> ikonia: I'm setting up my ubuntu machine to work as a router, and would like to name the external interface as wan and internal interface as lan.
[11:43] <ikonia> zol: thats silly
[11:43] <ikonia> you're changing device names for fun
[11:43] <zol> No. I'm changing it for clarity.
[11:43] <ikonia> just document/remember that eth0 is external and eth1 is internal
[11:43] <ikonia> also put a tag in the iptables rule you use
[11:44] <zol> So it is impossible to change them?
[11:44] <ikonia> no
[11:44] <ikonia> they can be changed
[11:44] <ikonia> but it's a bad idea, more so for no good reason
[11:45] <zol> Care to elaborate why it's a bad idea?
[11:45] <ikonia> because some things will reference/expect standard naming
[11:46] <ikonia> you'll also be at risk to potential rule updates
[11:46] <ikonia> (from the vendor)
[11:49] <llutz> zol: ip link set eth0 down ; ip link set eth0 name wan; ip link wan up                     have fun but don't cry if stuff stops working
[11:49] <ikonia> that won't work
[11:49] <ikonia> as udev will change it
[11:51] <soundscape> wondering if anyone knows if the gedit-latex-plugin in 15.10 has any bug that causes it to fail to load correctly?
[11:51] <ikonia> look on launchpad
[11:51] <ren0v0_> my USB DAC starts playing for like 5 seconds clear, then crackles and pops, please any suggestions?
[11:52] <zol> ikonia: thanks!
[11:52] <ren0v0_> some lgos > http://pastebin.com/eRQhwa8e
[11:53] <neeroj> wassupu
[11:54] <soundscape> ikonia: there's an entry for 15.04 for the bug, but not 15.10
[11:56] <soundscape> ikonia: sorry, correction. the bug is listed against 15.04, but several of the responses relate to 15.10 too. looks like its not just me.
[11:58] <atralheaven> what is option of "adduser" command for adding a user to a group (sudoers group)?
[11:59] <RDX400> Need some help on this pls http://pastebin.com/Rn1BLeMF
[11:59] <ren0v0_> If i open "pavucontrol" the crackling stops??
[12:00] <k1l_> atralheaven: adduser doesnt need any arguments. just sudo adduser user group
[12:00] <k1l_> atralheaven: then logout and in again
[12:00] <ren0v0_> k1l_: you sure?
[12:01] <atralheaven> k1l_: adduser username sudo?
[12:01] <k1l_> ren0v0_: i am very shure. and i am sure you are confuse with the old useradd
[12:01] <atralheaven> k1l_: I read man there is a -g option
[12:01] <ren0v0_> k1l_: i've never used "adduser" to add a user to a group
[12:01] <k1l_> atralheaven: i am very sure
[12:01] <ren0v0_> atralheaven: use  sudo usermod -aG user group
[12:02] <k1l_> m(
[12:02] <atralheaven> k1l_: I don't want to edit a file to add the new user to sudoers
[12:02] <ren0v0_> atralheaven: read what i put above
[12:02] <k1l_> atralheaven: sudo adduser user group will work on ubuntu.
[12:03] <atralheaven> ren0v0_: I think thats what I was looking for, thanks!
[12:03] <k1l_> ren0v0_: are you saying i am lying?
[12:04] <ren0v0_> k1l_: either you are blind or looking for an argument, i asked if you was "sure"
[12:04] <ren0v0_> because i've never used "adduser" in that way
[12:04] <ren0v0_> don't be upset
[12:04] <atralheaven> k1l_: ren0v0_: there can be two ways to do one thing
[12:04] <ren0v0_> did i say there wasn't ?
[12:04] <k1l_> i gave the correct and easy answer. if the user forgets one of the arguments on useradd he will trash his whole system.
[12:05] <k1l_> so my command is way more easy and way more safe.
[12:05] <ren0v0_> get off your toadstool my friend :)
[12:06] <k1l_> atralheaven: since you dont trust me read that official ubuntu doku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[12:06] <ren0v0_> k1l_: nobody said they didn't trust you, stop crying jesus
[12:06] <ren0v0_> he got the job done, move on
[12:06] <slaffe> hmm
[12:06] <atralheaven> k1l_: man I trust you, there are just two or more ways to do that
[12:07] <slaffe> set my discriptors to 65535, tor server still says its used 99% of them..
[12:07] <slaffe> [13:06:09]root@scenics:~# su debian-tor --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n"
[12:07] <slaffe> 65535
[12:07] <atralheaven> the name of sudoers group is sudo right?
[12:12] <znr> Hi peeps! I am using Bodhi Linux (Ubuntu 14.04) and would like to see what the kiddo is doing with his Win 7 machine... He is connecting through the router via WiFi and I'm on TP-cable. Any ideas for programs?
[12:13] <znr> Would Wireshark do the job?
[12:14] <ikonia> znr: we don't support bodhi here
[12:14] <ikonia> sorry
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <k1l_> znr: try in #bodhilinux
[12:24] <Guest52990> atralheaven, yes
[12:24] <raspberry-pi> Are you ok.
[12:25] <ren0v0> I have a USB DAC, crackling like crazy when choosing "Q-AMP" as output via sound settings. If i install and leave open "pavucontrol" it works flawlessly...
[12:25] <tho_> Hi. When using gvfs-smb - where to put options, like --socket-options, for samba client?
[12:26] <tho_> I have extremely low transfers on our local network, while computers on windows download files at 50-70MB/s rate, the smb client gets 10-15MB/s
[12:26] <ren0v0> what does that mean? is there something one UI is using and the other isn't?
[12:56] <Guest71149> yolo
[12:59] <ubuntu218> I'm trying to switch from windows to ubuntu. Would it be a good idea to move into ubuntu now, or wait till 16.04 comes out and then swap? I'm not sure how much it matters
[13:01] <aguitel> how create partiton table in pendrive ? gparted is not working with this
[13:02] <pa> Hi
[13:02] <ubuntu218> I'm not an expert, just sort of switching over in the last few days. But check if you have a data manager.
[13:02] <pa> anyone here uses a Technisat Skystar S2 DVB-S2 card?
[13:03] <llutz> pa not with success
[13:03] <pa> llutz, you mean you have it ,but didn't manage to use it?
[13:03] <llutz> pa: i gave up and sold that crappy thing.
[13:03] <pa> in my case it works fine on 14.04 with patched media-build drivers
[13:04] <pa> but i seem to be unable to tune a specific transponder
[13:04] <pa> otherwise it generally works
[13:10] <llutz> pa well i prefer things "complete working ", so i got a technotrend s2-3200
[13:10] <nickz> anyone here?
[13:11] <javier_> hola soy nuevo, como hago para poner firefox en esañol? gracias
[13:11] <BluesKaj> nickz, just ask your question
[13:11] <llutz> !es|javier_
[13:11] <javier_> ok gracias
[13:14] <Guest47535> I am not able to install vmware toolds there is no vmware tool .pl file
[13:14] <Guest47535> some one hwlp please
[13:16] <Guest47535> hello
[13:16] <lsuser> hi
[13:17] <nickz_> Guest47535: where did you try to download it?
[13:18] <nickz_> should be in ubuntu center for easier purpose
[13:18] <Guest47535> nickz_:  I click install vmware toold from vmware
[13:20] <shockvalu> are you familiar with the software? have you used vmware previously or is this you first go?
[13:21] <Guest47535> shockvalu:  i used before
[13:21] <Guest47535> and I used to download from its menu
[13:30] <MJ888> Hi everyone, I think virus infect my computer after extracting .rar file. The problem is I can't own any file (can't copy anymore, just open it). What would I do?
[13:30] <Guest47535> .some onen can help??
[13:30] <Guest47535> MJ888: u dont have permision?
[13:31] <k1l_> MJ888: what .rar? what files exactly? what ubuntu exactly?
[13:31] <MJ888> Hi Yes
[13:31] <MJ888> I am using lubuntu
[13:31] <Guest47535> MJ888:  windows virus cant effect ubuntu
[13:31] <Shogoot> Hi all. I got this ubntu server 15 and i know (even he denies it) my younger cousin installed some programs. Is there any way to see what programs have been installed by any user?. I had a fresh os install on the machine when my cousin got his hands on it. I know he at least installed htop.
[13:31] <Guest47535> may be u dnt ahve permision
[13:31] <MJ888> The file that I got it from internet
[13:31] <teward> Guest47535: there are viruses for Linux - Windows viruses can affect the Wine portions, but there can be linux viruses too, don't forget this.
[13:32] <Guest47535> teward:  I know
[13:32] <MJ888> after I extract that file, I don't own all the file anymore
[13:32] <ikonia> Shogoot: look at the install logs for the package manager
[13:32] <ikonia> Shogoot: look at his user shell history
[13:32] <Guest47535> but in his case I guess he have mount permisions etc [prob
[13:32] <MJ888> It change the owner as 1000
[13:32] <ikonia> MJ888: change the ownerhip
[13:33] <ikonia> it's just taken the ownership of the uid who created the file
[13:33] <Shogoot> ikonia, waht are the names of the logs if you dont mind?, thois unders /var/logs?
[13:33] <k1l_> MJ888: what files? what .rar? is that from an insecure source?
[13:33] <MJ888> hi ikona: I have try but not working yet
[13:33] <ikonia> Shogoot: yes /var/log
[13:33] <MJ888> Hi kil, yep
[13:33] <ikonia> MJ888: is this on a usb stick or on a local disk
[13:33] <ldsh> Hi, I'm trying to save datas from a laptop hard drive (inside a USB3 enclosure), but each time after a moment, the ubuntu desktop I'm using to make that saving crash (screen image does not move at all and no responsiveness). If I'm not connecting that drive, the system is stable, but I don't see how that can be linked to the hard drive (and the same enclosure with a different hard drive inside gave no problems)
[13:33] <MJ888> hi Ikonia: on local disk
[13:34] <ikonia> MJ888: what file system is on the local disk ?
[13:34] <MJ888> ikonia: ext4
[13:34] <k1l_> MJ888: what folder are the files in?
[13:34] <ikonia> MJ888: how are you trying to change the ownership of the files after the extract ?
[13:35] <MJ888> k1l: under download directory
[13:35] <MJ888> ikonia: I didn't make it, it happened by it self
[13:36] <k1l_> MJ888: open a terminal (alt+ctrl+t) and and type "ls -al Downloads/" then show one line of on of those files/folders please in here.
[13:36] <ikonia> MJ888: yes, and I told you to change the permissions and you said "it doesn't work" so I'm asking you - "how did you try to change the permisions"
[13:36] <MJ888> By the way, after all these happen I tried to reboot the computer, then I can't even login again "it said password is not correct"
[13:37] <MJ888> ok k1l:
[13:37] <anonymous> ping www.receitasqueamo.com.br
[13:37] <ikonia> if you can't login - how are you doing this ?
[13:37] <k1l_> MJ888: are you sure it was just in downloads folder? are you sure you didnt fiddle with root permissions there?
[13:37] <k1l_> MJ888: what was in that .rar?
[13:38] <MJ888> k1l: movie file
[13:38] <Guest53895> DDoS  of <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:38] <k1l_> Guest53895: this is not an anonymouse ddos channel.
[13:38] <Guest53895> ok
[13:39] <Guest53895> sorry
[13:40] <MJ888> Hi k1l: it show like that "drwxrwxr-x 26 root root       4096 Mar 25 10:19 New"
[13:40] <k1l_> MJ888: so you uses sudo to unrar?
[13:40] <k1l_> MJ888: which is very wrong.
[13:40] <MJ888> no I use application I don't know it name
[13:41] <MJ888> Yep it seem i own it but I can't copy the file
[13:42] <Guest47535> fuck vmware
[13:42] <SchrodingersScat> !language | Guest47535
[13:42] <MJ888> When I copy the file, it show error with "The file operation was completed with errors" "error occurs: ...:permission deny"
[13:42] <k1l> you dont own it. its owned by root
[13:43] <MJ888> k1l, I m now running on live cd
[13:43] <k1l> MJ888: so there is a folder "NEW" in Downloads folder?
[13:43] <MJ888> Yep, one of them
[13:45] <Shogoot> ikonia, found it at /home/xx/.bash_history. thanks
[13:45] <lee_g750jm> hello all
[13:45] <EriC^^> hello
[13:45] <lee_g750jm> history -c clears is
[13:46] <k1l> MJ888: if you only unrar it to your users home that cant infect the system. so boot to that system. when at login screen press "ctrl+alt+f1" log into your user. then run "sudo chown -R user:user /home/user" put your users name as "user". then you should be able to login again using "ctrl+alt+f7"
[13:47] <MJ888> k1l: I gonna try it
[13:48] <MJ888> kl1: thanks
[13:58] <xenialxerus> which one is correct "apt-get remove --purge" or "apt-get remove -purge". Does it need two minus sign or both is compatible?
[13:58] <xenialxerus> Sorry for newbie question
[13:58] <nicomachus> xenialxerus: --
[13:58] <AvatarA> apt-get purge works too
[13:59] <nicomachus> or apt-get purge --remove, or apt purge, etc...
[14:00] <xenialxerus> Oh, got it. Crystal clear
[14:03] <tuxick> lo, since a week or so my 15.10 fails to suspend or shutdown, is this a known issue?
[14:09] <equity> it was supposed to be a diamond
[14:09] <equity> but it wound up being jade
[14:09] <nicomachus> tuxick: what do you mean by fails to suspend or shutdown?
[14:10] <tuxick> it just won't, keeps returning to login screen
[14:11] <tuxick> running kde btw
[14:12] <kamild1996> Hello, I just uninstalled fglrx from my Ubuntu 15.10 but now I can't get Mesa to load, instead "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe" is running. How can I fix it?
[14:13] <xenialxerus> Anyone here running LAMP stack on 16.04?
[14:13] <nicomachus> !xenial | xenialxerus
[14:13] <k1l> xenialxerus: #ubuntu+1 for xenial support.
[14:13] <xenialxerus> Okay
[14:14] <k1l> kamild1996: how does fglrx fit with mesa and gallium?
[14:14] <kamild1996> k1l, I'm sorry? I might be mistaking things but since I uninstalled fglrx, my OS is very slow, and "llvmpipe" seems to be the reason of that.
[14:15] <k1l> kamild1996: what video card is it?
[14:15] <kamild1996> k1l, Radeon R9 280X. Before installing fglrx I had Mesa installed from padoka's PPA and it was working well.
[14:16] <kamild1996> Maybe the Xorg log file might provide more details, let me send it to you
[14:17] <kamild1996> Here: http://pastebin.com/A6CTuvVw
[14:19] <wjlafrance-lap> I'm using ubuntu server in a VM for a presentation. Is there a way to increase the font size of the terminal? (not xterm or gnome-terminal, not running X)
[14:19] <k1l> kamild1996: ususally if not fglrx is used it should use radeon as the open source driver. but he even cant load that
[14:20] <k1l> kamild1996: but i am not an amd expert
[14:21] <ubuntu-studio> how to use the root terminal?
[14:21] <kamild1996> sudo -s?
[14:23] <kamild1996> k1l, I'll keep looking then, thanks anyway
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> kamild1996: you could test 16.04 with amdgpu/radeon perhaps, see if performance is better there
[14:25] <kamild1996> lotuspsychje, I'd like to stay with 15.10 until 16.04 gets released.
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> kamild1996: did radeon work on 15.10 before you tested fglrx or mesa?
[14:28] <kamild1996> lotuspsychje, yes, radeon and the driver from padoka's PPA (Mesa?) were working perfectly fine, until I installed fglrx and tried to remove it
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> kamild1996: remove all ppa's and try recoverymode/fix broken packages perhaps
[14:31] <kamild1996> Just tried something, let me reboot
[14:31] <kamild1996> then I'll try your solution
[14:37] <kamild1996> Ok so even though I removed fglrx using "dpkg" command, I also had to remove them with "apt-get remove --purge". Now it's all fine :)
[14:38] <nosleep> yo
[14:38] <nosleep> i need help xd
[14:40] <k1l> kamild1996: didnt you say your removed fglrx already?
[14:41] <kamild1996> k1l, I did using the "dpkg" command but apparently it didn't fully remove it
[14:43] <kamild1996> When I tried to remove them using "sudo  sh /usr/share/ati/amd-uninstall.sh", it told me that I can't do that and that I need to "use a following command to remove fglrx from my computer".
[14:43] <kamild1996> It was a dpkg command although I don't remember the entire line.
[14:49] <riqj> hello everyone, I have a question about 'Ubuntu' font. who exactly needs to be credited as the author in using this font family?
[14:53] <minimec> riqj: http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/ubuntu-font-licence-1.0.txt http://font.ubuntu.com/licence/
[14:55] <riqj> minimec, I've already read through the license text, but there is not this information in it
[14:56] <kdm13> riqj: If you are in compliance with the license, what is the problem?
[14:56] <arussel> I'm looking for a simple postit app that I could easily show/hide with a single keybinding, any suggestion ?
[14:56] <riqj> kdm13, the 'attribution' is
[14:57] <kdm13> riqj: I do not understand the problem. Does some rule require you to name a specific person?
[14:58] <craptalk> how to use ssh basicly?
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> craptalk: try #openssh channel
[14:58] <EriC^^> ssh user@host
[14:59] <lee_g750jm> happy friday all
[15:00] <riqj> kdm13, you're right, the license doesnt seem to explicitly require this. but I just felt like I should add, though not sure. also the designer of the font is some other company.
[15:03] <lee_g750jm> :)
[15:04] <riqj> kdm13, minimec, thank you, I'll figure it somehow, thank you
[15:07] <ziz15> is getdeb secure?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | ziz15
[15:12] <xenialxerus> Out of curiosity, what is your choice of ubuntu desktop enviroment? I bet most on Unity right
[15:12] <reisio> that's some crazy bet :p
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | xenialxerus
[15:21] <sudomarize> THe cursor has disappeared on my screen, how can i reset it?
[15:21] <sudomarize> (without restarting my machine)
[15:22] <pbx> sudomarize, logging out and back in may do it
[15:23] <pbx> speaking of fixing things: how do i get the super key to show the launcher?
[15:25] <MoonBurst> As a new user, could I give a command and be told if it looks right? So I know if I'm at least in the ballpark for what I'm trying to do?
[15:26] <reisio> you could
[15:26] <reisio> as old, too
[15:26] <MoonBurst> as old?
[15:26] <reisio> https://html5zombo.com/
[15:26] <nacc> MoonBurst: "As a old user..."
[15:26] <reisio> s/zombocom/#ubuntu/
[15:26] <MoonBurst> Ahh.
[15:27] <MoonBurst> I'm thinking it's... tar sudo -xzf name.gz?
[15:27] <reisio> nope
[15:27] <reisio> sudo would usually be first, but only if you want, at least on Ubuntu, to use root
[15:27] <MoonBurst> actually, I think sudo should be first. To set permissions
[15:28] <reisio> mmm, well, if you want it as root, sure
[15:28] <reisio> -xf is enough
[15:28] <reisio> these days
[15:28] <reisio> you'd want -z with -cf, to specify gzip, if desired
[15:28] <reisio> -c create, -x extract
[15:29] <reisio> although it it's truly just foo.gz, you might want gunzip alone
[15:29] <reisio> if* it's
[15:29] <MoonBurst> it's a tar.gz
[15:29] <minimec> pbx: Have you disabled desktop icons with "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false"? IN that case the super key doesn't work anymore.
[15:29] <xenialxerus> How to use root account? I tried su - root, then terminal ask me for password. But I never set password for root. This is fresh install
[15:30] <reisio> MoonBurst: hence 'if' :)
[15:30] <reisio> xenialxerus: Ubuntu's root password is scrambled/unset by default
[15:30] <reisio> xenialxerus: the "Ubuntu way" is to use sudo instead, but you can set a root passwd if you like
[15:31] <xenialxerus> reisio: So I just need to set password to use root account?
[15:31] <k1l> !sudo | xenialxerus
[15:31] <k1l> xenialxerus: no. dont use the root account. you use sudo if you need root permissions on cli
[15:31] <MoonBurst> I tried to just extract the file, but it basically told me I'm doing it wrong.
[15:31] <reisio> xenialxerus: in your su example that would suffice, yes
[15:31] <MoonBurst> Windows habits
[15:32] <reisio> MoonBurst: what was the command?
[15:32] <MoonBurst> cd Downloads into sudo tar -xzf file.tar.gz
[15:32] <xenialxerus> Thanks for info. I wont even activate root account then
[15:32] <xenialxerus> =)
[15:32] <reisio> MoonBurst: you'd probably want to not use sudo for such things, almost ever
[15:33] <reisio> MoonBurst: or -z, start with just tar -xf file.tar.foo
[15:33] <MoonBurst> noted.
[15:33] <k1l> MoonBurst: you dont need sudo to unpack stuff
[15:33] <reisio> in fact you might start with tar -tvf foo, to make sure the structure isn't awful
[15:33] <MoonBurst> I got ubuntu like... a day or two ago
[15:33] <reisio> alternatively, you can double-click from your file manager and do it graphically
[15:33] <reisio> although it's well worth knowing how to tar from a command line, of course
[15:34] <MoonBurst> having a good GUI would be great for me. I extracted it that way, but the folder has a lock icon over it, so I think I'm not quite right about what I'm doing
[15:34] <MoonBurst> That and I'm suppose to run something in the file with Mono to make it do what I want it to do
[15:35] <MoonBurst> The exact file is the steam card puller, Archi Steam Farm.
[15:35] <MoonBurst> I got it working just find on windows, but since I'm trying to move away from windows, I'm having some trouble
[15:36] <MoonBurst> Windows for years, Linux is basically making me feel like my bike lost a wheel
[15:37] <MoonBurst> Unless the problem is I did something wrong when I tried to add in Mono. Which seems just as likely
[15:38] <reisio> MoonBurst: dunno, the lock could just be the generic archive icon for your system
[15:38] <reisio> it could mean it's owned by root
[15:38] <reisio> icons are just hints
[15:39] <MoonBurst> That's fairly likely. I'm using 14.04 until 16.04 comes out
[15:39] <MoonBurst> Being new, I think it's a good idea for me to stick to LTS
[15:39] <xenialxerus> MoonBurst: You may need to move to Windows 10 if you wanted DX12. And DX12 game keep coming. DX12 is low overhead GPU API. Free boost for you GPU
[15:39] <BluesKaj>  MoonBurst it's not the bike , it's your sense of balance that's changed, once you find the new balance then it opens up a many more avenues to explore, forgive my analogy, but that's the easiest way to describe in your context
[15:40] <k1l> MoonBurst: i bet that thing got a readme. but be aware that when you install 3rd party code from "a website" we cant help there that much.
[15:40] <reisio> you can actually make a bike that automatically rights itself and basically never falls over
[15:40] <reisio> physics is... far out
[15:40] <MoonBurst> I know what you mean. I just mean that after I learn to ride a bike, anything that isn't a bike makes it seem way harder than I think it should be
[15:41] <MoonBurst> it does, sort of. But it wasn't really tested for ubuntu. And a read me only helps if I can understand. :P
[15:41] <MoonBurst> So I've just been throwing commands for a while and trying to figure everything out
[15:41] <reisio> well, this is the place with answers, FFR :)
[15:43] <ringarging> hi, I installed ubuntu on a usb stick but each time I shutdown, I need to boot on the install usb stick and use boot-repair the other usb stick to make it bootable again
[15:45] <ringarging> any idea on how I could fix this ? I could buy a ssd drive right
[15:52] <tuxick> the shutdown/suspend problem seems related to plymouth
[15:56] <EOBeav> There used to be a way to create an ubuntu install so that the end user would be able to create their own username and login upon first boot. Is this not available anymore?  Currently running 14.04
[15:59] <minimec> EOBeav: Should be this... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[16:02] <EOBeav> minimec: Thanks, I'll take a look at it.
[16:05] <gny> hii
[16:05] <kalMoney> hello
[16:06] <lee_g750jm> :)
[16:25] <chiliblue> I am really struggling to work out connecting a bluetooth gps, I have the bluetooth working, I can cat the rfcomm and it outputs something that looks like nmea to me, but it doesn't appear to work with in the chartplotter app. anyone got any ideas?
[16:26] <seatex> When will Thunderbird 38.7.1 be available for 16.04?
[16:27] <reisio> when it is
[16:28] <optimus_> Guys... is it possible to fit a 4 GB file in two 2 GB drives? By mounting them to the same mount point?
[16:28] <ubuntu347> sometimes, prog
[16:28] <reisio> optimus_: sure, but it sounds convoluted
[16:29] <ubuntu347> sometimes, programs I try and run crash, even on a newly installed OS. Mostly VMs and compatiblity programs
[16:29] <reisio> optimus_: be more efficient use of time/money/etc. to get a 4gb storage device
[16:29] <optimus_> reisio: Could you please explain it to me... I need to fit a large file in 2 of my flash drives
[16:29] <ubuntu347> Is that something caused by my actions, or is that something from wine or whatever?
[16:30] <optimus_> reisio, I can't afford a 32 GB flash drive at the moment. But I need to do that file transfer really really quick.
[16:31] <reisio> sure you can, they're dirt cheap :p
[16:31] <optimus_> reisio, You don't know me. :P
[16:31] <BluesKaj> optimus_, is it an image/iso file
[16:31] <reisio> optimus_: you can probably just use 'split'
[16:31] <reisio> I doubt you need to bother with a union mount
[16:32] <optimus_> BluesKaj, No. I need to fit a 17 GB file for transfer. I only have a 16 GB flash drive. And a 8 GB one too.
[16:32] <optimus_> reisio, Can't split. I have to download it. As is.
[16:32] <optimus_> Plus, I'm a novice too.
[16:34] <reisio> optimus_: oh download
[16:35] <reisio> optimus_: try mhddfs
[16:35] <reisio> should be a nice simple way to manage it
[16:35] <optimus_> reisio, care to explain? Please? :)
[16:35] <reisio> install mhddfs, from universe
[16:35] <itsmemario> hi guys, i'm in a tty terminal, and need to kill the window manager process (xubuntu)
[16:36] <reisio> and then the little commands down at 'mkdir /mnt/virtual' here: https://romanrm.net/mhddfs
[16:36] <itsmemario> I'm struggling a litle bit, any help?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !mhddfs | optimus_
[16:36] <reisio> itsmemario: killall xfwm4; killall compiz
[16:36] <BluesKaj> !info mhddfs | optimus_
[16:36] <reisio> yeah I already said it's in universe...
[16:36] <optimus_> reisio,  Thank you! :) I'll try those out
[16:37] <optimus_> BluesKaj,  Okay.
[16:37] <DArqueBishop> 6+
[16:37] <itsmemario> reisio: thank you! is this the same as: /etc/init.d/YOUR_DESKTOP_MANAGER stop (from a tutorial)
[16:38] <reisio> itsmemario: not exactly the same...
[16:38] <reisio> desktop managers specifically do not frequently have init scripts/services, either; though display managers frequently have
[16:38] <reisio> xdm, gdm, lightdm, etc.
[16:38] <fossterer> Hi! I am running 16.04 (Development Branch). My system doesn't connect to one particular WiFi Network. Is this a 'known issue' or should I 'report as a bug'?
[16:39] <itsmemario> reisio: woulld it be /etc/init.d/xdm stop ? because i just get command not found and the path
[16:39] <itsmemario> something must be missing
[16:40] <reisio> itsmemario: Ubuntu frequently uses lightdm; it also uses systemd nowadays, which ideally (to itself) does not use init.d scripts directly
[16:40] <reisio> itsmemario: you can always killall X
[16:40] <reisio> or reboot (the stupid but effective way)
[16:41] <jiohdi> I am getting an error saying stable inrelease signature cannot be verified, any help appreciated
[16:42] <itsmemario> reisio: hahaha. i'm actuall dealing with a driver so i'm afraid i can't. when you say "killall X" you mean "killall xfwm4", right? (as x, being the desktop environment)
[16:42] <reisio> no
[16:42] <reisio> 'X'
[16:42] <reisio> the X server
[16:42] <reisio> is the process your entire DE relies on
[16:43] <reisio> as well as your DM
[16:43] <reisio> so 'killall X', verbatim
[16:43] <itsmemario> reisio: it says no process found :O
[16:43] <BlankSpace> hi
[16:43] <reisio> itsmemario: then it's not running
[16:43] <reisio> hi blank
[16:43] <itsmemario> reisio: ah, lol. I thought my whole x server vanished
[16:43] <BlankSpace> is thr any forum to talk about personal problem?
[16:44] <itsmemario> reisio: thank you!
[16:44] <reisio> BlankSpace: like, not to do with computing?
[16:44] <BlankSpace> yes
[16:44] <reisio> there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:45] <reisio> used to be a general "off topic" channel for the entire freenode network, but apparently it made the network admins feel... out of control or something? So they killed it
[16:46] <BlankSpace> oh
[16:46] <jnoob22> anyone know when 14.04.4 will EOL'd? Can't seem to find it
[16:47] <itsmemario> reisio: mmm, the tutorial is telling me to open xorg.conf.new, and assumes there are things inside, but it's blank! (I believe has been created upon me using nano)
[16:47] <reisio> jnoob22: 2019
[16:47] <nacc> jnoob22: 14.04 is supported for 5 years
[16:47] <jnoob22> perfect.
[16:47] <reisio> itsmemario: sounds like an outdated tutorial
[16:47] <reisio> itsmemario: what're you trying to accomplish, in general?
[16:47] <jnoob22> Was thinking I better get cracking on 16.04 by August this year.
[16:49] <itsmemario> reisio: basically, i am dealing with a generic chinese computer. The driver is really dodgy (sis graphic). This is the tutorial: http://zatherz.cba.pl/sis/  .  I did not stop the win. manager. It should be sudo stop lightXX (I'm tryna find the one for xfce)
[16:54] <reisio> this looks a little better: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/sis
[16:56] <itsmemario> reisio: oh wow thank you :D
[17:09] <itsmemario> reisio: aw naw. It did not work :(
[17:10] <itsmemario> reisio: what happens if i use a 32 bits driver in a 64 b computer? will the world explode?
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> itsmemario  your OS will be erased and windows installed
[17:11] <itsmemario> MonkeyDust: Noooooooo
[17:24] <deavid> hi, i'm experiencing a problem on sound on my laptop using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS; I tried every guide i found on internet but nothing helped. Started to happen two months ago.
[17:24] <deavid> I reboot, the sound works perfectly. After a while, randomly, the sound suddenly stops.
[17:25] <deavid> volumes are ok, not muted, pulse audio reports Spearers and not headphone
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> deavid  in a terminal, type    alsamixer   do you see anything unusual?
[17:25] <deavid> even tried alsamixer, aaplay
[17:25] <deavid> i know alsamixer from 10 years ago, and no, nothing wrong
[17:25] <deavid> but if i plug int the headphones, it works. But not on speakers
[17:26] <deavid> i tried killing pulse audio. nothing. Even pusleaudio -vvvv seems ok
[17:26] <deavid> but, if i suspend the laptop, on resume the audio works again
[17:27] <deavid> i tried to not to suspend never the laptop, but it happens anyway
[17:27] <BluesKaj> deavid, intel audio?
[17:27] <deavid> yeah
[17:27] <jimmy51v_> hello, i NFS boot ubuntu via dhcp/pxe server.  i have a problem with multi-nic systems.  it seems after i've pxe booted, initrd has loaded, and it's trying to mount the NFS share it chooses a random port.
[17:27] <deavid> lspci: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[17:27] <jimmy51v_> i can move the cable around and find the interface it's trying to use, but it's not consistent across machines or boots.
[17:27] <jimmy51v_> what do i need to do to tell it to use whichever interface is active?
[17:27] <deavid> i was looking for bugs or worarounds, i tried some, but seems the don't aply to my soundcard
[17:28] <jimmy51v_> i looked at initramfs.conf but it looks like that just lets you set DEVICE=eth49 or whatever, which wouldn't help.
[17:28] <jimmy51v_> and.... that option is overridden by kernel options in the bootloader anyway
[17:28] <aq2> jimmy51v_: So you want to change the default network?
[17:28] <feneco> hi, I was booting in recovery mode, and saw that grub allows root access from there, is there any way to make it request a password before allowing root access there?
[17:29] <nacc> jimmy51v_: i dont' believe nfs knows about the routing, it just uses the kernl stack
[17:29] <nacc> jimmy51v_: so it's more likley that the pxe interface is changing?
[17:29] <jimmy51v_> aq2: i want, on startup, for the proper network interface to be used.
[17:29] <jimmy51v_> by proper, i mean the one that's connected
[17:29] <BluesKaj> deavid, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ..there's recurring bug after updates/upgrades the intel audio driver doesn't load at boot, some users still have this problem up to 14.04
[17:29] <jimmy51v_> no, we always use the same physical port
[17:29] <aq2> jimmy51v_: I think i know what file you're looking for.
[17:29] <EriC^^> feneco: yeah if you set the root password, which isn't recommended, also anybody could get a root shell easily from editing the grub entry
[17:30] <EriC^^> feneco: you could add a password to grub if you want a little layer of security
[17:30] <aq2> jimmy51v_: Edit /etc/network/interfaces but keep in mind that the computer won't boot without an internet connection if you add something there.
[17:30] <jimmy51v_> aq2: i'm all ears.  this is so annoying!  if it didn't jump around between boots i'd just hardcode ip=eth4 or whatever.
[17:30] <jimmy51v_> hmm
[17:30] <aq2> jimmy51v_: If you mess that up boot from a live cd and fix it. or, boot straight to bash from grub.
[17:30] <jimmy51v_> this is in a liveCD context.  is that file there?
[17:30] <aq2> Why not just do it with the desktop environment's settings?
[17:30] <aq2> Yes, it should be i think
[17:31] <deavid> BluesKaj: still without sound. thanks anyway. Any other ideas to try?
[17:31] <feneco> EriC^^: why root comes with no password by default? I found a bit weird that if you can boot in recovery you have all access to the system without authentication
[17:31] <aq2> feneco: Even if you set a root password you can still boot straight to bash with grub
[17:31] <aq2> Just edit the parameters and add init=/bin/bash to the Linux line
[17:31] <duobix> Hi there
[17:31] <EriC^^> feneco: cause it's disabled by default
[17:32] <deavid> the sound was working on boot.
[17:32] <BluesKaj> deavid, forgot to mention, a reboot is usually needed after the command
[17:32] <EriC^^> feneco: the grub thing is for recovery purposes, like if you forget your password or something
[17:32] <feneco> so the better workaround would be adding a password to grub, right?
[17:32] <aq2> you'll need to remount the root partition but then you have full root access... works on any linux system with bash, grub and no grub password (if its possible)
[17:32] <duobix> I tried installing 16.04 on bay trail tablet, and grub failed to install
[17:32] <aq2> duobix: Read the /topic.
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> duobix  #ubuntu+1
[17:32] <jimmy51v_> aq2: i'm looking at that file in my livecd source... it has no entries.  what should it have?
[17:32] <aq2> "use #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 discussion and support, not here."
[17:33] <aq2> jimmy51v_: I'll pastebinit mine
[17:33] <EriC^^> feneco: yeah, it's still easy to get your stuff though
[17:33] <aq2> jimmy51v_: Something like this will do nothing on startup http://paste.ubuntu.com/15499300/
[17:33] <nacc> jimmy51v_: is this the same bug, possibly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/378167
[17:33] <EriC^^> using a live usb or something
[17:33] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:34] <feneco> I see
[17:34] <duobix> TY all, sorry, missed the #topic
[17:34] <aq2> jimmy51v_: Systems installed from mini.isos connect to ethernet automatically with that file by default, i don't have an installed mini iso here right now
[17:34] <feneco> thanks I will see what I can do
[17:34] <aq2> so i can't tell what to add there to make it actually do something
[17:35] <aq2> But if you want to allow booting without ethernet this is not the file you're looking for.
[17:35] <jimmy51v_> nacc:  most likely.  i've seen that bug report forever
[17:35] <deavid> BluesKaj: Just rebooted. Sound works again, as in every reboot. Hope it is fixed.
[17:35] <jimmy51v_> still broken though
[17:35] <deavid> thanks
[17:35] <aq2> jimmy51v_: I think i have an idea... add some startup commands to .profile
[17:35] <nacc> jimmy51v_: does the last suggestion not work? ip=all
[17:35] <aq2> put them in () across multiple lines and a & after the ()
[17:35] <jimmy51v_> it does not.
[17:35] <aq2> so they'll run in the background
[17:35] <nacc> jimmy51v_: ok
[17:35] <jimmy51v_> they mention adding an ipconfig timeout, but i'm not sure where to do that
[17:36] <aq2> login commands, actually
[17:36] <jimmy51v_> aq2: when is profile parsed and ran?
[17:36] <aq2> On login
[17:37] <jimmy51v_> too late
[17:37] <aq2> its just bash
[17:37] <aq2> There's not really anything that runs earlier than that
[17:37] <aq2> except init.d but thats ran as root
[17:37] <jimmy51v_> this is occuring when the initrd i passed down via http is trying to mount the NFS share to grab the real OS
[17:38] <jimmy51v_> "The solution is obvious - you make sure the network interfaces are detected in the right order via /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, and run update-initramfs -u."
[17:38] <jimmy51v_> i'm not sure how to implement that in the initrd.lz
[17:38] <deavid> BluesKaj: happened again: sound lost with speakers. (Was listening music on youtube)
[17:39] <aq2> oh, so initrd.lz contains all that stuff?
[17:39] <jackcom> how can i install wireshark?
[17:39] <aq2> jackcom: Type wireshark to a terminal to find out.
[17:40] <aq2> That simple :)
[17:40] <jackcom> oh thanks aq2 great :)
[17:40] <aq2> Right
[17:41] <jackcom> anyway ubuntu don’t have command of aptitude?
[17:41] <aq2> Type aptitude to a terminal to find out.
[17:41] <jackcom> oh
[17:41] <jackcom> great
[17:41] <aq2> If its installed it'll open to a semi-gui
[17:42] <llutz> jackcom: sudo apt-get install wireshark             , ubuntu comes without aptitude by default, you can install it with apt-get
[17:42] <jackcom> The program 'aptitude' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[17:42] <jackcom> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[17:42] <aq2> Install it then.
[17:42] <aq2> Same thing as with wireshark.
[17:42] <aq2> llutz: Better let him explore himself by typing stuff to the terminal :)
[17:42] <jackcom> aptitude vs apt-get, which command is better?
[17:42] <aq2> Depends on what you want
[17:43] <llutz> jackcom: none
[17:43] <jackcom> none?
[17:43] <jackcom> what you mean?
[17:43] <aq2> I use apt-get when it works and aptitude when i need it, which is not that often
[17:43] <reisio> jackcom: what aq2 said
[17:43] <reisio> they behave differently
[17:43] <llutz> jackcom: both are frontends to apt, both do their job. noting better/worse
[17:43] <jackcom> oh thanks aq2 ;)
[17:43] <aq2> Use one or the other
[17:43] <reisio> IIRC aptitude is trickier to remove things with :p
[17:43] <jackcom> their job ;) great
[17:43] <reisio> it makes broad assumptions you might not
[17:43] <aq2> they do some things differently and may conflict, although that doesn't happen that easily either
[17:43] <WoodyPC> What does this mean:: W: GPG error: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E131728675254D99
[17:44] <jimmy51v_> aq2: yeah... they way it works is the PXE/DHCP server tells the PXE firmware where to grab an initrd.lz and vmlinuz.efi from a TFTP or HTTP server
[17:44] <jimmy51v_> that tiny kernel and initrd is pulled down and booted.  it has kernel options telling it where to grab the rest (nfsroot=/blahblahbl)
[17:44] <jackcom> ubuntu graphic is better after mac. mac > ubuntu > others
[17:44] <aq2> Wow
[17:44] <jimmy51v_> but currently it's trying to use the wrong network interface and fails
[17:44] <aq2> aptitude can be controlled with mouse!
[17:45] <reisio> aq2: how so?
[17:45] <aq2> apt definitely cannot
[17:46] <aq2> just type aptitude to a terminal and start clicking :)
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> that's called ncurses
[17:47] <reisio> ah
[17:47] <aq2> Yes, but i didn't realize that its able to interact with clicks by following the cursor's moves :)
[17:47] <WoodyPC> I received this error after reloading the package information in Synaptic Package Manager. What does this mean:: W: GPG error: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E131728675254D9
[17:48] <aq2> WoodyPC: You have a ppa problem, try removing the ppa and adding it again.
[17:49] <WoodyPC> aq2: can I do that from system settings under updates and keys?
[17:49] <aq2> Probably you can, I don't use unity so i don't know
[17:50] <aq2> But that doesn't sound like a place for removing a repository to me
[17:50] <aq2> is ot "software and updates"?
[17:50] <aq2> is it*
[17:50] <WoodyPC> yes
[17:51] <WoodyPC> aq2: got it, thanks
[17:51] <jackcom> how can i change hostname?
[17:51] <aq2> jackcom: sudo nano /etc/hostname
[17:51] <Omnipotent> So, my lightdm crashed earlier and instead of simply rebooting I went to Ctrl+Alt+F1 and tried to restart just the lightdm, but while doing so, I accidentally wrote, lightdm restart, instead of sudo service lightdm restart
[17:51] <aq2> at your own risk... im not sure if its the correct way
[17:51] <aq2> jackcom
[17:52] <Omnipotent> The issue that happened now is that, even after rebooting, my regular user keeps asking for password again and again, Login loop.
[17:52] <jackcom> ok aq2 ;)
[17:52] <jackcom> thanks
[17:52] <aq2> jackcom: back up first!
[17:52] <Omnipotent> on Stackoverflow, I got answer such as, chown myuser:myuser .xAuthority fixes issue
[17:52] <aq2> Omnipotent: not nice, i set up my lightdm myself so i know how to reset it on this system but not sure about how ubuntu does it by default
[17:53] <Omnipotent> and yes, it did, but the fun now is that, I get a "report problem" box
[17:53] <Omnipotent> Otherwise everything is cool.
[17:53] <aq2> Omnipotent: Oh that apport thing
[17:53] <aq2> Omnipotent: I would probably remove the whole apport :)
[17:53] <Omnipotent> I can login, I can use everything normally, I just get that box.
[17:53] <jackcom> oh i see
[17:53] <Omnipotent> apport?
[17:53] <aq2> Omnipotent: Wait, what exactly does that say?
[17:53] <Omnipotent> Report a problem, Close or Report buttons
[17:53] <jackcom> aq2: but i edit /etc/hostname. but hostname is not changed
[17:53] <Omnipotent> The same thing you get for any issue..
[17:54] <Omnipotent> And it automatically disappears
[17:54] <Omnipotent> It's not a big deal, I was just wondering How to get rid of it, to go to previous stage heh
[17:54] <aq2> jackcom: What does hostname say? just type to terminal
[17:54] <aq2> Omnipotent: Sounds like apport to me
[17:54] <Omnipotent> What is apport?
[17:54] <aq2> Its the ubuntu bug thing... i think
[17:54] <Omnipotent> Yeah, so why remove it? It's cool.
[17:55] <aq2> Because you don't need it :)
[17:55] <Omnipotent> It's just that, because I fiddled with it.. It's reporting a bug pointlessly.
[17:55] <Omnipotent> It's my mistake not its :P
[17:55] <aq2> I installed this system from a mini.iso using just minimal things
[17:55] <jackcom> aq2: it works after turn off computer ;)
[17:55] <aq2> jackcom: Yes, i thought it might need a reboot
[17:55] <jackcom> oh great thanks aq2 ;)
[17:56] <WoodyPC> How do I find out what I have on here: Unity, Gnome, etc...etc???
[17:56] <tete_> hi, can someone help me to get my software-raid1 (gpt) booting? i have 4 ssd's with a raid1 for /boot. i followed this guide https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_RAID_mit_redundanten_UEFI_Boot_Eintr%C3%A4gen but when i remove the first drive, i get into the grub rescue shell
[17:57] <jackcom> i don’t know why people let me use Debian instead of Ubunbu. but i don’t know the reason?
[17:58] <aq2> WoodyPC: if you have a big bar at left its unity
[17:58] <aq2> tete_: reinstall grub?
[17:58] <aq2> jackcom: Debian would be nice if they would have better lts
[17:58] <tete_> aq2, it failed on all 3 SSDs to boot, i dont think that this is the real problem
[17:58] <jackcom> but i think that ubuntu is more easy then debian and ubuntu have nice graphic
[17:58] <WoodyPC> aq2: what does Gnome look like?
[17:58] <aq2> tete_: did you mention you're using raid?
[17:59] <tete_> aq2, yes
[17:59] <aq2> WoodyPC: People don't use it that much anymore, just things made based on it
[17:59] <jackcom> aq2: debian is nice?
[17:59] <jackcom> lol
[17:59] <aq2> tete_: you don't just remove one of the raid drives :)
[17:59] <aq2> Your data is spread across all of them
[17:59] <tete_> aq2, i have a GPT which is not raid-able
[17:59] <tete_> the /boot partition is on raid1
[17:59] <aq2> jackcom: Well, better than ubuntu non-lts
[17:59] <tete_> all other data are on raid5
[18:00] <aq2> tete_: i don't know how to help.
[18:00] <jackcom> oh
[18:00] <jackcom> why what is reason?
[18:00] <jimmy51v_> any initramfs experts in?  i need my initramfs to identify and use whichever NIC is connected and linked on boot for nfsboot purposes
[18:00] <aq2> i like lts because its stable and i don't need to reinstall all the time
[18:00] <aq2> but thats just my opinion
[18:01] <jackcom> stable than ubunutu? aq ?
[18:01] <jackcom> aq2: ?
[18:01] <aq2> Debian is stable
[18:01] <WoodyPC> aq2: Thanks for the info...Been helpful.
[18:01] <aq2> but their support periods aren't that long.
[18:01] <jackcom> oh
[18:01] <jackcom> ubuntu is not stable?
[18:01] <aq2> Depends on what version you have
[18:02] <aq2> 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 in the future etc are stable because they're lts
[18:02] <TJ-> !lts | jackcom
[18:02] <jackcom> 14.04.3
[18:02] <aq2> but the rest are testing versions
[18:02] <aq2> yes, yours is lts
[18:02] <jackcom> thanks ubottu and aq2
[18:02] <jackcom> ;)
[18:03] <v2528> hello, i have recently reverted from FGLRX to Radeon on my Xubuntu 14.04, i use multi-monitor setup: Left 24" via VGA, Right 28" via HDMI. i get this strange gap between desktops when i cross my mouse to the other monitor.
[18:04] <v2528> $xrander -q: http://pastebin.com/T6zzWMxe
[18:07] <v2528> i notice the right display seems to be offset 3840 which is wrong i think "HDMI-0 connected 1920x1080+3840+0"
[18:11] <jackcom> what is gksudo?
[18:11] <jackcom> gksudo wireshark?
[18:11] <EriC^^> it's a way of launching gui apps with privileges
[18:11] <EriC^^> and that's the wrong way to use wireshark
[18:11] <jackcom> then i must install it?
[18:11] <jackcom> wrong way?
[18:12] <jackcom> then how can i do?
[18:12] <jackcom> sudo wireshark?
[18:12] <EriC^^> no, sudo dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common
[18:12] <EriC^^> then yes
[18:13] <jackcom> lol
[18:13] <jackcom> too complicated
[18:13] <jackcom> how about ‘sudo wireshark'?
[18:13] <jackcom> EriC^^:  ?
[18:14] <EriC^^> you just run that once to configure it
[18:14] <jackcom> then next?