[16:14] <asciiwolf> rbasak, Hi, regarding the playonlinux SRU we have been talking about yesterday - I have submitted a new debdiff and rewrote the Regression Potential section... Is everything correct now? :-)
[16:14] <asciiwolf> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/playonlinux/+bug/1574805)
[16:14] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1574805 in One Hundred Papercuts "[SRU] GNOME Software catalog entry missing for PlayOnLinux in Ubuntu 16.04" [Medium,Confirmed]


[02:43] <anadon> hey, where are the moderators for #ubuntu?  There's a troll mucking the whole channel up.
[02:44] <rww> anadon: in #ubuntu-ops, but I'm one anyway and paying attention
[02:44] <anadon> kk
[07:38] <genjix> hey how can i get oneiric?
[07:38] <genjix> i want to install it on a new system
[07:38] <genjix> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/
[07:39] <genjix> that right?
[07:39] <paGos> genjix, just download it.
[07:39] <genjix> i use that link, right?
[07:39] <paGos> genjix, put it on a usb, boot the pc, read instructions, voila.
[07:39] <paGos> genjix, yes, that's the link.
[07:39] <genjix> thanks
[07:44] <floam> are there netinstall/minimal install CDs for oneric?
[07:46] <floam> (or, would it just be a matter of using an older one and playing with apt sources?)
[07:47] <rww> I think if you take the URL for the older ones and make the relevant substitution from natty to oneiric or whatever, that might work
[09:43] <pfarrell> hi! I am trying to set up oneiric in a deboostrap chroot (a package I maintain is breaking on oneiric). When I run debootstrap, I get: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /data/pfarrell/oneiric dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-9ubuntu2_amd64.deb . What can I do? Is this a bug in oneiric?
[10:01] <dupondje> pfarrell: its a bug indeed
[10:02] <dupondje> pfarrell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/+bug/802985
[10:11] <pfarrell> dupondje: that isn't the error message I'm getting. I'm trying to create an oneiric system on maverick/natty, and I get a different error
[10:11] <pfarrell> and unfortunately installing alpha-2 in a virtualbox crashes :-
[10:27] <Daviey> anyone else having a really bad time with tbird atm?
[10:29] <yofel> pfarrell: known issue, though I don't remember the bug #. Create a natty chroot and dist-upgrade
[10:29] <pfarrell> yofel: good idea.
[10:41] <pfarrell> in a debootstrap, how do I install the relevant file for my locale (en_GB.UTF-8) ?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:21] <BluesKaj> has the repos regressed the kernel back to 3.0.0 ?...I see it has replaced 3.0.4 in the recent upgrade
[13:27] <robin0800> BluesKaj, 303 was in alpha2 if thats what you mean
[13:35] <BluesKaj> yeah I meant 3.0.3 , robin0800
[13:36] <BluesKaj> lost in dependency hell on my other box ...it's the experimental one ...guess I should have waited :P
[13:41] <yofel> BluesKaj: it's 3.0-3 -> 3.0.0-4
[13:42] <yofel> no idea why they added the subversion again
[13:45] <utusan> where does it looks in for the apps?  IIRC it should be in /usr/bin?  I added one there but it doesn't show up
[13:45] <Daekdroom> Yeah, given that 3rd number is now for the bugfix releases, and Ubuntu has omitted it in the past.
[13:45] <tsimpson> utusan: "it" looks in your $PATH
[13:46] <tsimpson> the changelog entry for adding the third digit: "Adopt a 3 digit verion, e.g., 3.0.0-x.x"
[13:46] <utusan> tsimpson, of course and /usr/bin is there but why doesn't show up?
[13:46] <tsimpson> very descriptive
[13:46] <tsimpson> utusan: "show up" where?
[13:46] <utusan> in applications
[13:46] <utusan> gnome shell
[13:46] <tsimpson> because you need a .desktop file for that
[13:47] <utusan> oh ..ok..is there a template I can use?
[13:48] <tsimpson> look in /usr/share/apps, lots in there
[13:48] <jibel> yofel, that was announced at the release meeting last friday
 oneiric-alpha-2 shipped with the 3.0-3.4 kernel whch was based on the mainline 3.0-rc5 release.  We are shortly going to upload a 3.0-rc6 kernel.  We are expecting the 3.0 final release shortly which represents our target kernel for oneiric.  We are still seeing a trickle of issues with the 3.0 version number and it is likely Linus will release this kernel as 3.0.0 to avoid these userspace issues, we
  will likely renumber our kernel also to match this and simplify backports to lucid.
[13:48] <tsimpson> or /usr/share/applications
[13:49] <utusan> tsimpson, ok.. thanks
[13:49] <yofel> thanks
[14:13] <airon90> Hi, do someone know how to set default app without using buggy gnome-control-center?
[14:46] <rrva> hi.. I just upgraded from natty to oneiric and all my X input devices (mouse,keyboard) are suddenly silent. Xorg.log just mentions that udev manages them but no errors.. how to troubleshoot?
[14:51] <rrva> #807306
[14:52] <rrva> udev seems broken
[14:57] <rrva> how do I manually force xorg to not use udev input devices but rather bypass that layer on ubuntu?
[15:28] <jakubo> hi, i got problems with pulseaudio. every now and then it stops working causing the system shutdown to halt. and now i got only approx. half the volume possible.
[15:28] <jakubo> i got a c-media-"something" chip. where alsamixer doesnt work
[15:29] <jakubo> the volume problem occurred when i changed the output from analog speakers to analog output and back
[15:30] <jakubo> also i need to reset the volume on every startup
[15:34] <BluesKaj> alsamixer works better in most cases without pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is meant for fancier pci soundcards that have alot of options
[15:35] <Dimmuxx> any eta on when indicator-network will be installable again?
[15:36] <jakubo> the soundcard seems pretty fancy, but maybe the driver is not quite as feature rich...
[15:36] <BluesKaj> once you set alsmixer up without pulseaudio in the way , it will usually hold the vol and other settings
[15:37] <jakubo> it says it doesnt find any mixer device
[15:37] <BluesKaj> jakubo, if you decide to keep pulseaudio , then install pavucontrol . it's agui for controlling pulseaudio settings
[15:38] <jakubo> is pulseaudio so immature?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> jakubo, type alsamixer in the terminal
[15:39] <jakubo> after the installation of pavumixer?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> jakubo, alsamixer and pulsaudio are separate ...pa needs alsa because it's the driver for your soundcard , but alsa doesn't need pa...it's just a layered sound server that runs on top of alsa
[15:43] <BluesKaj> fancy soundcard =pci card , IMO
[15:43] <jakubo> there is no alsamixer for my device
[15:44] <BluesKaj> jakubo, then install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[15:44] <jakubo> C-Media CM6501 is my chip, a-base and -utils still are installed
[15:45] <coz_>  good day all
[15:48] <h00k> So, is dist-upgrade recommended or not when running Oneric?
[15:48] <charlie-tca> I use it all the time
[15:49] <charlie-tca> especially as update-manager has been failing for a few days
[15:49] <BluesKaj> jakubo, alsamixer. in the terinal doesn't bring it up ?
[15:49] <h00k> Because, if I understand it, it will install new packages if an update requires that new package, yes?
[15:49] <charlie-tca> there was a kernel update today, that you can't get with upgrade
[15:49] <jakubo> jup
[15:49] <charlie-tca> hooyup
[15:49] <charlie-tca> h00k: yes
[15:50] <charlie-tca> it will also things like the new kernel, that upgrade and safe-upgrade don't do.
[15:50] <charlie-tca> s/also things/also install things
[15:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 1 to kick off in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:50] <Pici> And remove things!
[15:51] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[15:51] <h00k> Perfect, that's what I just wanted to verify
[15:52] <charlie-tca> it always tells me to run auto-remove or something
[15:53] <jakubo> which worked fine for me when upgrading is to see what i being removed and if its being reinstalled in any way, then you can be pretty safe to have a working system after reboot
[15:54] <BluesKaj> well, it was  apt-get upgrade that put me into dependnency hell a couple of days ago ...and none of my bag of fixes would work , so I reinstalled 11.04....gonna wait til the dust clears
[15:56] <coz_> :)
[15:57] <Deithrian> omg guys what's going on o-o
[15:57] <jakubo> back to my sound issue, could it be i need to insall the oss modules?
[15:58] <Deithrian> just decided to try the alpha 2 and i can't even start the Update manager after the laterst updates
[15:58] <BluesKaj> no biggie ... I've learned to make a separate /home partition for my linux machines
[15:59] <BluesKaj> is wiser than the easy way
[15:59] <Deithrian> this must be the most unstable alpha yet :)
[16:00] <BluesKaj> jakubo, sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base , then the same for alsa-utils
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Deithrian, I'm inclined to agree
[16:02] <Deithrian> How am i supposed to update if the Update manager crashes?!
[16:02] <BluesKaj> use apt-get
[16:03] <Deithrian> Also there's a weird can't write to /udev or something error at boot and it falls back to /.udev ?!
[16:03] <jakubo> jup for me too
[16:04] <BluesKaj> that udev thing is a common occurrence , but iut doesn't seem affect much
[16:04] <trism> Deithrian: that's not a big deal, it is part of the /run transition, shouldn't happen for much longer now that we actually have /run
[16:04] <BluesKaj> to
[16:05] <jakubo> BluesKay: no hange for me after reinstall
[16:05] <jakubo> change*
[16:05] <Deithrian> o-o what about the constant crashes :|
[16:05] <charlie-tca> it's alpha
[16:06] <Deithrian> never used an alpha like this one before o-o
[16:06] <Deithrian> did they change the world or something?
[16:06] <charlie-tca> No, it is doing what it expected in a development release
[16:06] <BluesKaj> jakubo, that's strange ...I have a c-media chip on my other pc ... didn't encounter that on 11.10.I've since reverted to 11.04
[16:07] <charlie-tca> If the development release works perfect, why bother testing it?
[16:07] <jakubo> i have had the issue ever since ... i think 9.10
[16:07] <Deithrian> ah come on :) when was the last time Update Manager didn't work in Alpha for you?!
[16:08] <BluesKaj> jakubo, hmm, then I think your c-media card might be kaput
[16:08] <Deithrian> BluesKaj, am i supposed to use apt-get update or something? o-o
[16:08] <Pici> I usually don't use Update Manager itself
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Deithrian, yes
[16:09] <charlie-tca> I use update manager every week or two to see if it works
[16:09] <jakubo> the 6501 chipset seems not to be liked by linux or vice versa
[16:09] <Deithrian> BluesKaj, that's all? o-o
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Deithrian, and upgrade as well
[16:10] <Pici> *dist-upgrade
[16:10] <Deithrian> nvm ill just use synaptic ._.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Pici, really ?  maybe that should be noted in the motd
[17:01] <rrva> oneiric disables gnome-shell. How get it back as default (currently running with unity)
[17:12] <WelshDragon> Just installed updates and rebooted. When lightdm starts up my mouse and keyboard stop working. I can't even ctrl+alt+f1 to switch vt. Is it a known problem?
[17:12] <bjsnider> i believe so, yes
[17:13] <WelshDragon> Any workaround?
[17:14] <bjsnider> i'll try to get you the bug number so you can look
[17:14] <Daekdroom> WelshDragon, try reconnecting your peripherals
[17:15] <Daekdroom> I've read someone had to do that everytime he logged in.
[17:15] <bjsnider> that wouldn't work unless they were usb
[17:15] <bjsnider> ps/2 isn't hot swappable
[17:15] <Daekdroom> Oh.
[17:16] <WelshDragon> They are a USB
[17:16] <WelshDragon> I'll get off the livecd and give it a try
[17:16] <WelshDragon> thanks Daekdroom
[17:16] <WelshDragon> brb
[17:19] <WelshDragon> That worked Daekdroom, ty :)
[17:20] <Daekdroom> Well, it'd be good if there was a real fix, I suppose, but it should do.
[17:20] <jamesbond2> Hi
[17:20] <jamesbond2> I have issue with php / imap.so
[17:21] <jamesbond2> http://pastebin.com/Krr4UJzW
[17:22] <bjsnider> bug 807306
[17:22] <bjsnider> that's the keyboard & mouse thing
[17:24] <jamesbond2> is this know issue?
[17:25] <jamesbond2> known*
[17:33] <jamesbond2> anyone?
[17:34] <Pici> jamesbond2: I suppose you can take our silence as us not knowing about it.  I suggest looking for and/or logging a bug on launchpad for your issue.
[17:34] <jamesbond2> ok
[17:53] <carl0s-> I just apt-get dist-upgrade'd, and now my keyboard and mouse (thinkpad ultranav) are non-functioning in X. Basically I have to power off at the login screen. I'm in recovery mode right now. Any ideas for what to look at?
[17:54] <Pici> carl0s-: Its a known issue. See bug 807306
[17:54] <Pici> Anyone know if the KDE 4.7 packages dropped into the repos? I'd like to get that out of the topic and add this new X issue.
[17:55] <carl0s-> Pici: thanks. I guess I just need to keep checking for new updates n stuff then.. :)
[17:56] <OneiricOne> Did and update and rebooted as required, now I am unable to use mouse or keyboard. How do I fix this?
[17:56] <Pici> OneiricOne: known issue See bug 807306
[17:57] <Pici> arg
[17:57] <IdleOne> thanks Pici
[17:58] <Pici> IdleOne: Can you check if the KDE 4.7 packages landed?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Pici, kde 4.7 is in the repos but it's still breaking things
[17:58] <Pici> IdleOne: nvm
[17:58] <Pici> BluesKaj: thanks
[17:58] <IdleOne> yeah I am running kubuntu
[17:59] <IdleOne> so unplug and replug...so simple I would have never thought about it
[17:59]  * IdleOne gives it a shot
[17:59] <Pici> Good enough
[18:00] <BluesKaj> kpassword is also broken
[18:00] <Pici> (now I get to say 'see topic' instead of 'known issue see bug #whatever')
[18:01] <BluesKaj> amongst many others, so don't reboot
[18:02] <IdleOne> well that fixed the mouse nbut keyboard is still not working :/
[18:08] <IdleOne> I can get the mouse working and then select to login into console mode. keyboard works fine there
[18:11] <gpc> ok so console works
[18:27] <IdleOne> so how do I get the system to see my ps/2 mouse ?
[18:27] <IdleOne> err keyboard not mouse
[18:28] <IdleOne> keyboard works in console, so the drivers are being loaded/usede right? how to keep them in use when starting X
[18:29] <IdleOne> used*
[18:31] <IdleOne> tried https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306/comments/20 stil no love
[18:31] <IdleOne> still*
[18:36] <jamesbond2> we must wait for the fix
[18:38] <IdleOne> in the mean time I am sol :(
[18:39] <Pici> You're the sun?
[18:39] <IdleOne> Pici, shinning brightly upon your face
[18:39] <charlie-tca> I am staying inside for a while, it is too hot in the shade, even
[18:39] <IdleOne> basque in the glory of my light
[18:42] <BluesKaj> maybe the basques will object , IdleOne
[18:42] <htorque_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306/comments/20 works fine here
[18:43] <IdleOne> htorque_, can you paste you xorg so I can see exactly what you did?
[18:43] <IdleOne> to a pastebin of course
[18:44] <htorque_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/642090/
[18:44] <htorque_> + installed xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[18:44] <IdleOne> yup that is what I did also
[19:14] <Daekdroom> Why don't I have the default Unity lenses anymore?
[19:14] <Daekdroom> Oh. All it took was a Unity restart
[19:17] <IdleOne> I hate to say this but I need to reinstall 11.04 so I can have a working desktop. can't wait for a fix to that bug 807306
[19:18] <jamesbond2> I have workaround
[19:19] <jamesbond2> run this in console and keyboard/mouse will work
[19:19] <jamesbond2> udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
[19:19] <IdleOne> hmm ok I'll give that a shot before reinstalling
[19:24] <IdleOne> wth now my keyboard isn't working when I boot from usb
[19:29] <jamesbond2> idelOne: is it working for you?
[19:32] <genjix> how can i upgrade natty to oneiric?
[19:32] <genjix> just s/natty/oneiric/ in sources.list?
[19:32] <jamesbond2> do-release-upgrade -d
[19:32] <jamesbond2> but there is high bug in oneiric
[19:51] <Daekdroom> The keyboard & mouse issue caught me, and now I don't have 3d accel either. Should have seen it coming.
[19:52] <Daekdroom> Unity-2D looks kinda cool, tho
[20:00] <htorque_> Daekdroom: sudo mv /run/udev /run/udev.old - should fix both
[20:01] <Daekdroom> That seems dangerous.
[20:01] <Daekdroom> I'll try to dig the rotten package first anyway.
[20:01] <htorque_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306
[20:02] <Daekdroom> I know it's that bug.
[20:02] <htorque_> if mdeslaur does it, i'm convinced it's ok to do that moving :)
[20:02] <htorque_> i have working keyboard, mouse and 3d accel again
[20:03] <Daekdroom> It was the update to udev 172-0ubuntu1 I had earlier today, apparently.
[20:04] <Daekdroom> Brb.
[20:47] <carl0s-> anybody have a workaround for this dead keyboard/mouse business??
[20:50] <ior3k> yay, I'm not alone
[20:51] <cwillu_at_work> carl0s-,  sudo mv /run/udev /run/udev.old
[20:51] <cwillu_at_work> if I interpreted the above comment correctly
[20:51] <cwillu_at_work> that was posted as a workaround to the bug report I believe
[20:51] <carl0s-> cwillu_at_work: i'll give that a go. brb! thanks :)
[20:51] <cwillu_at_work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/807306
[20:52] <ior3k> oh
[20:52] <ior3k> it happens itermitently for me
[20:53] <ior3k> yeah, doesn't seem to be the same thing
[20:53] <carl0s-> cwillu_at_work, it worked - thanks!
[20:54] <cwillu_at_work> ior3k, presumably you've filed a bug report? :p
[20:54] <cwillu_at_work> (because why else would you run an alpha?)
[20:55] <ior3k> cwillu_at_work: because I'm crazy
[20:55] <ior3k> but anyway, I can't reproduce the problem
[20:55] <cwillu_at_work> ior3k, why aren't you in #btrfs then, if you're so crazy?
[20:55] <ior3k> eh?
[20:55] <ior3k> what's that?
[20:55] <cwillu_at_work> the new experimental filesystem that all the crazy kids run
[20:56] <ior3k> well, I'm not that crazy ;)
[20:56] <cwillu_at_work> then file a damn bug report :p
[20:56] <ior3k> cwillu_at_work: but I can't reproduce the problem, the bug will be closed as incomplete
[20:57] <ior3k> besides my configuration is a bit weird... xmonad + xcompmgr + unity2d
[20:57] <cwillu_at_work> all the more reason to report
[20:57] <ior3k> if I can reproduce this consistently I'll file a bug
[20:57] <cwillu_at_work> the non-standard configs haven't gotten nearly enough love in the last two releases
[20:57] <ior3k> it's not that I don't want to file bugs, I have done so
[20:58] <cwillu_at_work> even if it's marked incomplete, it can be found by others with the same potential problem
[20:58] <ior3k> well, alright
[21:45] <Daekdroom> I'm wondering.. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-gtk3-gnome3 doesn't say whether gtk2 will be shipped in the CD or not..
[22:44] <micahg> Daekdroom: it will be most likely for firefox (at least for oneiric), but most other stuff will be ported
[22:45] <Daekdroom> Hm.
[22:52] <cwillu_at_work> Daekdroom, I suggest xubuntu or kde if you're looking for a conventional desktop :p
[22:53] <Daekdroom> Aww. I'm so used to Unity.
[22:54] <Daekdroom> And the few attempts I had with kubuntu-desktop package weren't so good. Maybe the whole thing would go better if I didn't have the two environments' tools and programs cluttering the desktop, tho.
[23:10] <h00k> I don't know if I have compositing actually running over here on my Sandy Bridge.
[23:12] <Daekdroom> h00k, can it run Unity (non 2D)?
[23:12] <h00k> Daekdroom: I'm not sure if I'm on Unity 2d or regular Unity :)
[23:13] <charlie-tca> Are the bottom two launchers light grey or dark gray?
[23:13] <h00k> the're gray, light gray
[23:13] <charlie-tca> default = light gray for 2d, dark gray for 3d
[23:14]  * charlie-tca doesn't really know any way to find out, either
[23:14] <h00k> yeah, okay, then I'm on Unity 2d.
[23:14] <Daekdroom> charlie-tca, really? I know plenty of differences.
[23:14] <Daekdroom> like the icon backgrounds in 2D are all light grey, and they're colored in 3D
[23:14] <Daekdroom> Dash has a frame around the icons in 2D. 3D doesn't.
[23:15]  * charlie-tca is learning
[23:15] <h00k> Check it - transparency on gnome-terminal isn't real, either, it shows the wallpapaer instead of the window behind it: http://i.imgur.com/bfrX4.jpg
[23:15] <Daekdroom> Personally, I think they're so different that I can't use 2D without getting slightly annoyed.
[23:16] <charlie-tca> I thought I was doing good just remembering the part about the bottom two launchers :(
[23:16] <h00k> I had the nice '3d' unity on Natty, before the upgrade.
[23:16] <Daekdroom> Oh, and I think Unity-2D doesn't have appmenu support, but maybe that's specific to here.
[23:16] <charlie-tca> I don't really use it enough, I guess
[23:17] <Daekdroom> I've used it once, today, when the udev issue broke my acceleration.
[23:17] <h00k> So, I'm not sure which part of what is broken that I don't have compositing
[23:17] <Daekdroom> As a matter of fact, h00k, you do have the mouse & keyboard issue, don't you?
[23:17] <Daekdroom> Or was it someone else..
[23:17] <h00k> Daekdroom: yep.
[23:18] <Daekdroom> I've had it earlier today, and the same cause for it had me lose compositing and 3D accel.
[23:18] <h00k> bug 807306
[23:19] <Daekdroom> If you check the comments, they suggest 'sudo mv /run/udev /run/udev.old' as a workaround
[23:19] <h00k> I'm going to try comment 27 to fix it right now
[23:20] <h00k> much better.
[23:21] <h00k> Sound even works without having me to tell alsa to reload.
[23:21] <h00k> muuuuuch better.
[23:58] <rrva> anyone having problems with raise volume key on keyboard after oneiric upgrade?
[23:58] <rrva> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/809072


[09:03] <darkxst> jbicha, np
[10:01] <ouinouin> Hi, why gtk-inspector does not works with "gnome-terminal" as it did for gedit or gnome-calcutor ? do i need to recompile gnome-terminal like this topic suggest ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/780329/cant-use-gtk-inspector-for-gnome-terminal


[00:21] <cjohnston> jcastro: are you running natty?
[00:21] <jcastro> yeah
[00:21] <cjohnston> Do you have skype working on it?
[00:21] <jcastro> haven't tried
[00:21] <cjohnston> gotcha
[03:17] <doctormo> jcastro: FYI I've gone through the stack for v4l and v4l2 and the stack for webcamstudio. The problem with high resolutions are squarely a problem with flash
[03:58] <paultag> jussi: :)
[04:01] <nigelb> yo paultag
[04:01] <paultag> yo nigelb
[04:01] <paultag> nigelb: I'm a bit drunk, don't mind me
[04:02] <doctormo> paultag: Join da club
[04:02] <nigelb> paultag: I believe 'a bit' is an understatement every time you say that
[04:02] <paultag> I'm having me a good night
[04:02] <nigelb> :D
[04:02] <paultag> unlike last week
[04:02] <paultag> (which ended in horror)
[04:03] <nigelb> haha
[04:03] <paultag> wow, I am talking way too much
[04:03] <nigelb> what kind of horror
[04:03] <nigelb> oh wait
[04:03] <nigelb> PM
[04:03] <paultag> nigelb: the kind that wakes up next to you ;)
[04:05] <gpc> lol
[04:06] <nigelb> I hope he doesn't regret the logs of it
[04:07]  * paultag hopes she can't check freenode logs / knows my irc nick
[04:13] <paultag> 'night world!
[04:17] <doctormo> paultag: Nighnight
[06:28] <nigelb> greg-g: haha, I keep seeing you everywhere! Now on p2pu too
[10:00] <pleia2> Daviey: your User Day session is in an hour, all ready? :)
[10:00]  * pleia2 is going to head to bed
[10:02] <czajkowski> pleia2: *hugs*
[10:02] <czajkowski> pleia2: very late
[10:02] <pleia2> czajkowski: *hugs*
[10:02] <pleia2> yeah, 2AM
[10:02] <czajkowski> go sleep
[10:02] <czajkowski> hope the headache is gone
[10:03] <pleia2> it's lingering, so I really need to get some sleep
[10:03] <pleia2> someone poke Daviey if he doesn't show for his class please ;)
[10:03] <czajkowski> will do
[10:04] <czajkowski> he's not on irc much lately though
[10:04] <pleia2> yeah, he confirmed last week that he'd be here, so here's hoping
[10:04] <czajkowski> heh
[11:02] <Pendulum> czajkowski: you don't happen to have a way off IRC to poke Daviey, do you?
[13:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:02] <czajkowski> Pendulum: did you find Daviey
[13:07] <cjohnston> czajkowski: he forgot about his session :-(
[17:16] <greg-g> nigelb: :P all good things
[17:17] <nigelb> greg-g: heh
[17:17] <nigelb> greg-g: I was reading the name, I was like, 'wait a minute.. I know a greg.  Ooooooh, this is greg-g!'
[17:22] <greg-g> :)
[17:22]  * greg-g is EVERYWHERE!
[17:23] <nigelb> I noticed :p
[20:14] <pleia2> czajkowski: there are two empty spots on emea board, right?
[22:01] <jcastro> popey: how did your session go?
[22:02] <popey> hard to say
[22:02] <popey> i talked into my irc client for an hour
[22:02] <jcastro> heh
[22:05] <jcastro> I've watched like 4 episodes of Fringe today
[22:05] <jcastro> I can't stop!
[23:22] <czajkowski> pleia2: 1
[23:26] <pleia2> czajkowski: oops, my announcement said 2, oh well :)
[23:26] <czajkowski> :(
[23:26] <czajkowski> you're replacing us :(
[23:26] <czajkowski> *sniff*
[23:26] <pleia2> actually, your board only has 7 total?
[23:26] <pleia2> americas has 8
[23:27] <pleia2> so does asias
[23:27] <pleia2> I think maybe you need 2 :)
[23:27] <pleia2> quorum is still 4
[23:31] <czajkowski> hmm ok


[08:00]  * cyberanger is a supporter of MAGBA
[08:00] <cyberanger> Make America Great Britian Again
[08:04] <Unit193> Naaah.
[15:30] <cyberanger> Colour me surprised, I thought it was a good idea. ;-)


[10:50] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[16:11] <Dil3mm4> Hello there.
[16:12] <Dil3mm4> I'm quite having a problem with KDE, put it short, it won't logout. Instead it loads again the session.
[16:12] <Dil3mm4> Is someone aware of this issue?
[16:12] <Dil3mm4> Also, no NVIDIA cards around, just a i3 380M on iGPU.
[16:13] <diogenes_> Dil3mm4, and ctrl+alt+del
[16:14] <Dil3mm4> diogenes_: yeah, when I press ok to logout, it just reloads the session.
[16:14] <Dil3mm4> It loads again the KDE loading screen and I'm back at the desktop.
[16:15] <diogenes_> Dil3mm4, try: killall sh
[16:15] <Dil3mm4> diogenes_: stuff is, if killall works, how do I change the graphics behaviour while using ctrlaltdel ?
[16:16] <Dil3mm4> My main concern is to get everything working within the UI.
[16:16] <diogenes_> first see if it works
[16:17] <Dil3mm4> sh: no process found diogenes_
[16:18] <diogenes_> Dil3mm4, i suppose there might be two reasons: 1. sddm bug 2. driver bug
[16:18] <diogenes_> to rule out the sddm bug
[16:18] <diogenes_> i'd suggest to try gmd
[16:18] <diogenes_> gdm*
[16:18] <diogenes_> for testing purpose
[16:19] <Dil3mm4> I don't even know if I'm on sddm atm or not tbh.
[16:20] <Dil3mm4> About the driver bug, wasn't this happening only over NVIDIA AMD PCI cards?
[16:22] <diogenes_> Dil3mm4, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[16:22] <Dil3mm4> diogenes_: lightdm
[16:22] <diogenes_> ah, that's why try sddm
[16:23] <Dil3mm4> sddm seems installed, gotta change default-display-manager value with nano to /usr/bin/sddm ?
[16:25] <Dil3mm4> Trying brb.
[16:40] <Dil3mm4> diogenes_: gdm3 works OOTB.
[16:41] <Dil3mm4> SDDM, hangs with the blinking "_"
[16:41] <diogenes_> Dil3mm4, so use gdm3
[16:41] <Dil3mm4> I don't want to guess why, even if the gdm3 screen looks crap xD
[16:41] <Dil3mm4> diogenes_: thanks for your support.
[16:41] <diogenes_> well that the screen that you got to see for 3 seconds
[16:41] <diogenes_> so no big deal
[16:41] <diogenes_> you're welcome
[16:42] <Dil3mm4> diogenes_: yeah, that's why I'm not bothering that much :P
[16:42] <Dil3mm4> I have just a couple of questions left.
[16:42] <Dil3mm4> Is there a way to customize animation speed?
[16:43] <Dil3mm4> Also, on login, KDE seems busy loading the app opened on my last session leaving behind the desktop loading, is there someway to invert the criteria?
[16:44] <diogenes_> probably kde i set to save the last session, you might want to disable that, don't ask me how because i'm on xfce )
[16:45] <Dil3mm4> Mhm, I should consider some digging about this
[16:45] <Dil3mm4> Thanks again!
[16:46] <diogenes_> np
[18:23] <kinghat> last couple of updates for kubuntu 18.10 has made one of my monitors in a 3 monitor system start doing weird things. now i just did a reboot and it is not found. i was just watching YT videos on it before the restart.
[18:28] <kinghat> baloo is crashing at startup when i log in as well
[18:28] <kinghat> also, when i log in it always says its like 6hours later on the clock then adjusts.
[20:56] <makhavelli> Hello, world
[20:56] <bprompt> makhavelli:    it worked!  allo allo
[23:13] <kinghat> what. is going on here? this happened after puter started acting up and had to hard reset: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/mOECtGoF/image.png and then terminal log is doing this: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1b0c50ea/
[23:18] <valorie> kinghat: did you "See system logs and 'systemctl status vboxweb-service.service' for details"?
[23:19] <kinghat> not yet. had to leave the PC.


[18:57] <ChmEarl> I did unlz4 on a focal kernel, size now is 44 MB, are there any tools which can recompress it, without using the ubuntu kernel delta?
[18:58] <ChmEarl> 45018340 Nov  6 11:39 kernel.decomp.ok
[19:00] <ChmEarl> why did I do it? it works uncompressed in Xen as pv domU kernel
[19:01] <ChmEarl> as I understand, proper comression is done in kernel buildroot as: make bzimage
[19:23] <ChmEarl> when I build xen-4.12.1 in focal chroot, the hypervisor also gets LZ4. Where would the xen Makefile possibly get an LZ4 config?
[19:24] <ChmEarl> maybe /etc/mkinitcpio.conf ?