[05:37] <bruenig> MybEvil_, you need to install mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | MybEvil_
[05:37] <ubotu> MybEvil_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:37] <MybEvil_> sorry for all the enters, i'm too used to it =/
[05:37] <bruenig> !w32codecs
[05:37] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:37] <Arcane> What's the name of the Gnome equivilent of Systray? It seems to have decided to stop loading
[05:37] <MybEvil_> what did I say?
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> Arcane, i think its sys notification
[05:38] <omeil> umm anyone know what this command is supposed to do ? chmod +x /home/omeil/linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> or am i misunderstanding what you want
[05:38] <Arcane> You're misunderstanding what I want
[05:38] <bimberi> Arcane: Notification Area
[05:38] <bruenig> omeil, make that executable
[05:38] <Arcane> bimberi,  I'm not going to type "sudo Notification Area"
[05:38] <IndyGunFreak> Arcane, sorry then
[05:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:39] <Arcane> I'm trying to figure out what to run from Nautilus :\
[05:39] <omeil> bruenig how do i run it tho :)?
[05:39] <omeil> if i double click it it opens in gedit
[05:39] <bruenig> omeil, you can probably click on it, or just type /home/omeil/linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run
[05:39] <bruenig> omeil, run the chmod +x command and then type the path to it
[05:40] <omeil> k
[05:40] <HockeyInJune> whoa, thats alot of ppl
[05:40] <MybEvil_> how do I get the w32codecs?
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, you still here?
[05:40] <bruenig> !w32codecs | MybEvil_
[05:40] <ubotu> MybEvil_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:40] <Arcane> Hey seriously I need help. :(
[05:40] <stooges> can linux read .dmg files?
[05:40] <IndyGunFreak> .dmg?
[05:40] <stooges> apple's file format?
[05:40] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yes, sir?
[05:41] <SkippyX> anybody know if the medibuntu repos are down?
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> you're gonna get flamed for not saying what youv'e already tried in your post...lol
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> those folks are anal.
[05:41] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[05:41] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: is it bad i hate mac's (although i love their commericals)
[05:41] <ayyub> Memtest86 will usually take a long time, right?
[05:41] <Madpilot> ayyub, yes.
[05:41] <kalorin> ok, now I'm >< close to going back to XP
[05:41] <ayyub> Kay.
[05:41] <bruenig> SkippyX, they are not
[05:41] <kalorin> wine will not run photoshop
[05:42] <kalorin> and I can't for the life of me get vmware to run
[05:42] <whta> will this IEs4linux work with a game i install with wine?
[05:42] <SkippyX> dang - having an impossible time updating my source.list
[05:42] <posingaspopular> kalorin: why don't you just use gimp?
[05:42] <omeil_> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libpixmap.so", i did it and it was  saying this all over
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, i kinda agree with you...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZQ_It0weI
[05:42] <stooges> because i want to install a program that is mac.. i want see if it would work in linux
[05:42] <feryana> Hi I'm trying to install ubuntu in a new pc.  It's a Core Duo... the 6.06 doesnt go thru, and now I'm trying to install 6.10 but I get /bis/sh: can't access tty: job turned off... can someone sayme why?
[05:42] <Arcane> This is driving me insane.
[05:42] <kalorin> posingaspopular the problem isnt' just photoshop really
[05:42] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, watch that youtube video, i nearly wetmyself
[05:42] <SkippyX> msg I get: " Could not connect to media.blutkind.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out"
[05:42] <blaze> Hello all,
[05:42] <kalorin> yahoo messenger, media monkey
[05:42] <kalorin> there's just too many things that don't run under linux at this point
[05:43] <blaze> but we still love it :P
[05:43] <kalorin> and i figured I'd just vmware a windows instance and have them if I needed them until I found replacements
[05:43] <bruenig> yahoo messenger? why would you use that
[05:43] <bruenig> gaim
[05:43] <kalorin> but I can't afford the time to try to figure that out
[05:43] <Jrabbit> gaim.
[05:43] <Frogzoo> feryana: some few installs need you to pass the kernel option 'acpi=off' from the grub menu - boot the CD & hit F6 at the menu - edit the kernel line & add that option, might help
[05:43] <blaze> :(
[05:43] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yeah its great, ... now i know i need to install java back on here
[05:43] <kalorin> I haven't tried gaim
[05:43] <ethan> when i play my cd player i can't hear any sound
[05:43] <HockeyInJune> i need the PPPoE program to get on the internet with linux, anyone know where I can find it?
[05:43] <Jrabbit> use gaim
[05:43] <Music_Shuffle> !feisty
[05:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, have you seen it before?
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, !!!!!!!!
[05:43] <Jrabbit> Hockey
[05:43] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yes, sir
[05:43] <feryana> i'll try
[05:43] <bruenig> kalorin, well don't complain, if you need some alternatives, ask but don't complain
[05:43] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, i love it
[05:43] <Arcane> I need an alternative to MY SYSTEM NOT WORKING.
[05:44] <posingaspopular> HockeyInJune: sudo pppoeconf
[05:44] <bruenig> !caps
[05:44] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:44] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: its the one where everything was filed with a mac
[05:44] <bruenig> !patience
[05:44] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, i was wondering where you'd been, i figured your new install must not have went well
[05:44] <kalorin> bruenig, I totally understand but I've literally spent 2 days trying to et vmware running
[05:44] <bruenig> !attitude
[05:44] <Frogzoo> will they be releasing feisty April 1?
[05:44] <HockeyInJune> OH
[05:44] <kalorin> frustrated as hell at this point
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, no.. even better
[05:44] <HockeyInJune> thnx a lot
[05:44] <HockeyInJune> !
[05:44] <Shrimpy1> mmm
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> IndyGunFreak, apparently, my DVD writer was the problem =[
[05:44] <posingaspopular> np
[05:44] <Arcane> I'm literally twitching from this crap. :\
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> Music_Shuffle, now that sucks.
[05:44] <SkippyX> Wow - that's worked up.
[05:44] <bruenig> kalorin, some quick google searches and you probably could have found better alternatives, what programs do you need
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah.
[05:44] <ethan> will any1 answer my question?
[05:44] <IndyGunFreak> twitching?..lol
[05:44] <ethan> when i play my cd player i can't hear any sound
[05:45] <kalorin> i need something to do canon raw -> adobe dng's
[05:45] <bruenig> it doesn't make sense to run linux, just to get a virtual windows machine for programs that have alternatives, why even leave windows if you are going to do that
[05:45] <blaze> RythemBox's Ambient Radio station rocks !
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> ethan, are your speakers on?
[05:45] <don_jr> how can I get sudo permissions in the gnome interface?
[05:45] <ethan> yes
[05:45] <cafuego_> Arcane: the systray thing?
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig, i agree
[05:45] <kalorin> bruenig, to buy time to find a good alternative
[05:45] <Arcane> Yeah
[05:45] <kalorin> most things I do I can do under linux, but some things I just can't
[05:45] <IndyGunFreak> kalorin, there's a bazillion alternatives
[05:45] <kalorin> at least at this point
[05:45] <stooges> is it possible to use .dmg in linux?
[05:45] <kalorin> .dmg?
[05:45] <cafuego_> Arcane: Right click the panel, choose "Add to panel...' and add a 'Notification Area'.
[05:45] <bruenig> don_jr, you mean like gksudo nautilus
[05:45] <ethan> when i open volume control it's said no volume control elements or devices found
[05:46] <joebob777as7> ethan sounds like your audio drivers are busted.. what card do you have or if it's onboard sound what mobo?
[05:46] <ethan> so how can i do IndyGunFreak ?
[05:46] <whta> i just installed ies4linux but i have no idea how to run it!
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego thats not what he wants
[05:46] <kalorin> well and we have some vpn stuff and apps that are windows only at owrkt hat I wanted to try
[05:46] <Arcane> I don't have a "Add to panel"
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> ethan, you got me.. i was just starting with the easiest thing first
[05:46] <don_jr> bruenig I'm trying to save a text file and it's told me I don't have permissions to save that file, how can I fix that?
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> Arcane, if you right click your panel, you will have
[05:46] <Arcane> I don't have any form of tray or manager whatsoever.
[05:46] <okih-imus> Is there something wrong with the GRUB bootloader for Ubuntu?
[05:46] <bruenig> kalorin, sudo apt-get install exifprobe
[05:46] <feryana> frogzoo I added the command after the -- and I still receiving the same message
[05:46] <Arcane> So please stop telling me I do. :D
[05:46] <joebob777as7> whta it should create an icon for you unless you did it as sudo or root
[05:46] <joebob777as7> whta you must install it as your user
[05:46] <cafuego_> Arcane: open a terminal and check that 'gnome-panel' is running.
[05:46] <mordaunt> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[05:47] <bruenig> don_jr, open the text file with gksudo, for instance, gksudo gedit /path/to/whatever.txt
[05:47] <ethan> joebob777as7,  mine is intel high definition 7.1 audio
[05:47] <HockeyInJune> posingaspopular: IT WORKS, thank you very much
[05:47] <kalorin> Building dependency tree
[05:47] <kalorin> Reading state information... Done
[05:47] <kalorin> E: Couldn't find package exifprobe
[05:47] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:~$
[05:47] <don_jr> bruenig okay
[05:47] <kalorin> ?
[05:47] <bruenig> !info exifprobe
[05:47] <ubotu> exifprobe: Read metadata from digital pictures. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 452 kB
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> !PASTEBIN
[05:47] <Arcane> It's not there at all :(
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <joebob777as7> ethan is it a pci card or built in if it's built in what mobo?
[05:47] <whta> joebob: I didn't do anything special.. i copied all the commands exactly from the ubuntu guide
[05:47] <ethan> joebob777as7,  it's pci
[05:48] <posingaspopular> HockeyInJune: noproblem a tall
[05:48] <Arcane> Not in /usr/bin
[05:48] <cafuego_> Arcane: That's fine, just start it by hand 'gnome-panel &'
[05:48] <bruenig> kalorin, do the following: sudo sed 's/# deb/deb/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install exifprobe
[05:48] <cafuego_> Oh!
[05:48] <cafuego_> Arcane: Is there anything in /lost+found?
[05:48] <Arcane> t a thing
[05:48] <don_jr> bruenig okay, that gave me funny output, what is the text editor I can get into from term?
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> ok, well, its bedtime....   good night all
[05:48] <Arcane> Not a thing*
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, i hope you get the screen resolution thing worked out
[05:48] <bruenig> don_jr, nano or vim
[05:48] <feryana> ne/bis/sh: can't access tty: job turned off
[05:48] <mordaunt> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[05:49] <joebob777as7> ethan ok what is the card part number and name?
[05:49] <brophat> is there a list of the additional software pachages you can get ?
[05:49] <cafuego_> Arcane: What happened right before it stopped working?
[05:49] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: yea, i'll be back need to close for flash player :(
[05:49] <feryana> nevv pc and I only can run the vista :(
[05:49] <J-_> is it safe to kill wish in, edgy? it's zombified.
[05:49] <bruenig> mordaunt, that is on your end
[05:49] <kalorin> uh?
[05:49] <bimberi> brophat: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <whta> anyone have any idea what happened to my ies4linux install? i followed the ubutnu guide instructions exactly and the install went with no problems. i just see no way to run it.
[05:49] <mordaunt> bruenig, really ? =| what precisely on my end?
[05:49] <brophat> thank yoiu
[05:49] <omeil_> how do i login as root?
[05:50] <Arcane> cafuego, I was running updates
[05:50] <Arcane> I'm on 5.10 :\
[05:50] <kalorin> ok so you're commenting out the .deb's?
[05:50] <don_jr> bruenig thanks, gotit, now how do I tell the ssh server what directories can be accessed and how do I turn it on?
[05:50] <Arcane> I'm just using Ubuntu temporarily
[05:50] <bruenig> mordaunt, don't know but going to archive.ubuntu.com in the browser was fine
[05:50] <bruenig> don_jr, no clue
[05:50] <ethan> Integrated High Definition audio
[05:50] <ethan>     *
[05:50] <ethan>       Realtek ALC 880 chipset
[05:50] <ethan>     *
[05:50] <ethan>       8-channels for Full Dolby 5.1/6.1/7.1 surround sound support with Dolby Pro Logic IIx
[05:50] <ethan>     *
[05:50] <ethan>       Dolby 5.1
[05:50] <ethan>    this is my sound card joebob777as7
[05:50] <bruenig> !paste
[05:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <cafuego_> Arcane: *nod* SO it's removed stuff it shouldn't have removed. Easiest to get it back is to install 'ubuntu-desktop' - that should grab all gnome stuff back.
[05:50] <J-_> !pastebin
[05:51] <Arcane> Except apt-get won't work anymore.
[05:51] <feryana> !paste ethan
[05:51] <mordaunt> bruenig: can you give me an ip for archive.ubuntu.com ? i just want to check if it's the same one i'm getting
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ethan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <feryana> ethan read the pm
[05:51] <don_jr> How can I tell my ssh server what directories to share via ftp and how do I turn it on to begin listening please?
[05:51] <cafuego_> Arcane: Won't work how? What error?
[05:51] <crimsun> ethan: please pastebin ``lspci -vvn'' output
[05:51] <mordaunt> bruenig, i can't even get a response from their website
[05:51] <bruenig> kalorin, run the command, it enables that universe repository so you can get that program
[05:51] <crimsun> ethan: then tell me the URL
[05:51] <kalorin> nice
[05:51] <bruenig> mordaunt, <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:51] <kalorin> no wonder I've been having so much trouble finding things
[05:51] <ethan> crimsun,  u want  to take a look?
[05:52] <crimsun> ethan: have you posted the info I requested?
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Shrimpy1, did you get flash to work?
[05:52] <Arcane> cafuego,  dpkg returned an error or something to that close proximity
[05:52] <bruenig> kalorin, you should probably enable the multiverse repository too
[05:52] <kalorin> k
[05:52] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: now i need java lol
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> naa, not for youtube
[05:52] <ethan> argh i don't know how to do this one crimsun  i'm newbie about linux
[05:52] <brophat> if something is not in the package list then you just manual install it and it does not get added to the add/remove listing?
[05:52] <kalorin> and I might do that where?
[05:52] <Jrabbit> !java Shrimpy1
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java shrimpy1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> youtube just needs Flash
[05:52] <Jrabbit> !java | Shrimpy1
[05:52] <ubotu> Shrimpy1: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> but as noted above, java is easy to install
[05:53] <Shrimpy1> i'm pretty sure the pacakage manager has it
[05:53] <crimsun> ethan: open Applications> Accessories> Terminal, type ``lspci -vvn'', and paste all the output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:53] <whta> ok! i got my ies4linux working.. but how can i enable activex?
[05:53] <Shrimpy1> along with add/remove programs
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> ok, nite all.
[05:53] <kalorin> oh foudn it
[05:53] <kalorin> in synaptic
[05:53] <ethan> aww
[05:53] <ethan> k
[05:53] <stooges> i have a file on the dekstop.. but i want to mount it, but it says only root can do that.. what am i doing wrong?
[05:53] <sivik> some one a while back told me where to download a script that installed the correct ati drivers that made my xpress 200m finally work correctly and i had to reformat my machine and i forgot to save that script, could someone tell me where i woudl find it?
[05:54] <bruenig> kalorin, well in command: echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <Shrimpy1> IndyGunFreak: going to sleep?
[05:54] <Arcane> aha, got it
[05:54] <kalorin> hwo about just check the softare restricted by cpoyriht or legal isues ( multiverse ) in synaptic?
[05:54] <bruenig> kalorin, commands are easier
[05:55] <kalorin> heh
[05:55] <kalorin> in some way
[05:55] <kalorin> ways
[05:55] <omeil_> has anyone succesfully installed Quake 3 arena?
[05:55] <yoink> can someone link me to the list of alternate apt mirrors?
[05:55] <brophat> and if yoiu don't find what you want in the package list you have to install it the old fashioned way? And it does not get listed in the remove list?
[05:55] <tm4-> hey guys - new to #ubuntu, thought i'd say hey
[05:55] <Arcane> This is making me very angry.
[05:55] <ethan> yes crimsun  i already paste
[05:55] <bruenig> kalorin, well if you just copy and paste something, that is easier than me trying to explain how to do it in synaptic, with the click this and then click this and so forth and so on. Also I don't know synaptic having never used it
[05:55] <kalorin> we use redhat at work and at home debian on the server and once that was set up no occasion to really mess with apt
[05:55] <kalorin> sure
[05:55] <tahsin> i have flash and java installed in my firefox but still i cant play youtube videos it says"Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player."
[05:55] <tahsin> what do i do
[05:56] <omeil_> Does anyone know how to install quake 3 arena properly?
[05:56] <bruenig> !flash9 | tahsin
[05:56] <ubotu> tahsin: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[05:56] <bimberi> hi and welcome tm4-
[05:56] <bruenig> tahsin, have you installed flash?
[05:56] <tm4-> has anyone here suffered from the white-cube/whitescreen issue with the recent beryl release
[05:56] <sivik> !ati
[05:56] <tm4-> ?
[05:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:56] <bruenig> tahsin, what does it say in about:plugins for flash?
[05:56] <tahsin> YES
[05:56] <crimsun> ethan: and what's the URL?
[05:56] <ethan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7605/ this one crimsun
[05:57] <tahsin> i can play other flash
[05:57] <tahsin> i have version 9 installed
[05:57] <tm4-> !backports
[05:57] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:57] <cafuego_> Arcane: got it?
[05:57] <daxxar> Anyone know of something like UnionFS or AUFS that's a bit more mature (or atleast stable)? I've read a lot of places that people recommend AUFS over UnionFS because it's faster and more stable, but I'm getting kernel Oops'es at umount etc, so I'm hoping for an alternative. :-)
[05:57] <nomasteryoda|w> how long should a 250gb hd take to do a "forced check"?
[05:57] <bruenig> tahsin, do you
[05:57] <Arcane> Nah, I'm honestly completely abandoning this
[05:57] <nomasteryoda|w> ext3
[05:57] <bruenig> tahsin, what does it say in about:plugins
[05:57] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda|w: Depends on how full it is and how broken ;-)
[05:57] <Arcane> I'll either get a newer Ubuntu or XP
[05:57] <nomasteryoda|w> ah
[05:57] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda|w: Up to a half hour, prolly
[05:57] <nomasteryoda|w> wow
[05:57] <tanlaan> how do you change the resolution of the login screen?
[05:57] <nomasteryoda|w> thanks
[05:57] <kalorin> thanks bruenig
[05:58] <tahsin> bruenig: i went to adobe flashe's site and it sayed i have verion 9 installed
[05:58] <tanlaan> im not seeing any resolution setting under system>administrator>login window
[05:58] <tanlaan> *administration
[05:58] <mordaunt> whoa that's weird...
[05:58] <bruenig> tahsin, open the browser, and go to the address bar, and type about:plugins
[05:58] <crazy_penguin> Good morning to all!
[05:58] <mordaunt> i get a whole bunch of attempts to connect back to my machine
[05:58] <mordaunt> when i try to connect to the repos
[05:58] <cafuego_> yeah, sorry
[05:59] <crimsun> ethan: if you don't preface the sentence w/ my nick, I'm liable to overlook it (this irc client doesn't highlight them otherwise)
[05:59] <tahsin> bruenig: everything is eneabled
[05:59] <bruenig> tahsin, what does flash say
[05:59] <ethan> crimsun: ok
[05:59] <ethan> crimsun: this is the URL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7605/
[05:59] <tahsin> bruenig: i dont see any adobe flash but i see shockwave flash
[06:00] <bruenig> shockwave flash what version?
[06:01] <tahsin> helllo
[06:01] <tahsin> ?
[06:01] <crimsun> ethan: are you using alsa-driver 1.0.14rc2 or newer?
[06:01] <zero88> how would i remove packages that i have downloaded with apt-get?
[06:01] <ethan> crimsun,  i'm not sure i just install ubuntu 5.04 just now
[06:02] <tahsin> So what do i do now about flash?
[06:02] <johnc> zero88 sudo apt-get remove "package name"
[06:02] <zero88> johnc thanks buddy
[06:03] <yoink> !sources.list
[06:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:03] <yoink> !EasySource
[06:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:03] <tahsin> So what do i do now about flash?
[06:04] <u2live79> hi there ubuntu noob here
[06:04] <tahsin> i have flash installed but cant run youtube videos
[06:04] <nowhere> What can i do when gamesounds are out of sync? Ubuntu 6.0.6 and the game is tremulous.
[06:04] <ethan> crimsun,  if u tell me the cmd i can go check and tell u
[06:04] <johnc> welcome u2live79
[06:04] <crimsun> ethan: err, 5.04?
[06:04] <tahsin> what do i do
[06:04] <u2live79> thanks
[06:04] <crimsun> ethan: we don't even support that version anymore.
[06:04] <omeil_> has anyone ever installed Quake 3 arena for linux?
[06:04] <ethan> ya crimsun  and i updated it
[06:04] <crimsun> ethan: to...?
[06:05] <holly2hottie> hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:05] <kelsin> omeil_: yes
[06:05] <tahsin> i have flash installed but cant run youtube videos
[06:05] <u2live79> is there any kind of beginers guide over view of linux/ubuntu that might be helpful?
[06:05] <joebob777as7> anyone know of a good slideshow application to make videos out of pictures?
[06:05] <ethan> crimsun,  i used ubuntu update manager
[06:05] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I'm trying to change the volume using the GNOME panel applet, and it doesn't appear to work. I know it's a problem in GNOME because alsamixer works fine. This only started recently, so I suspect a problem in a recent update; has anyone else had this experience?
[06:05] <crimsun> ethan: lsb_release -r
[06:05] <omeil_> umm whats the command to move files from a directory?
[06:06] <tahsin> u2live79: www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:06] <ethan> crimsun,  it's still 5.04
[06:06] <u2live79> hey thanks!!
[06:06] <chorse> lasindi: are you using a audigy value card?
[06:06] <macd> u2live79, http://www.ubuntuguide.org  keep in mind that is the unofficial starter guide.
[06:06] <ethan> crimsun,  i think it's only update the newer package 5.04 :(
[06:06] <crimsun> ethan: um, then you haven't dist-upgraded properly (or completely)
[06:06] <Shrimpy1> hello can anyone help me with 915resolution?
[06:06] <lasindi> chorse: no, I am using an Aureal Vortex
[06:07] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: why don't you just use xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting (edgy)?
[06:07] <MrWGW> good evening
[06:07] <chorse> lasindi: i used to have the same problem with an audigy value, alsa didn't support that card very well
[06:07] <MrWGW> where do I download an Edgy-compatible Blubuntu artwork package?
[06:07] <johnc> good evening MrWGW
[06:07] <ethan> crimsun,  can i use thumbdrive to install ubuntu new version? cuz i just downloaded ubuntu 6.01 and i don't have any new cd right now
[06:07] <MrWGW> I did this before, then inadvertantly b0rked my install
[06:08] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:08] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: i've tried that. and it gave me options in the pref>resolution. but they are bigger as in 640x800 i need 1200x800
[06:08] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: did you remove the Mode line(s) from xorg.conf in Section "Screen"?
[06:08] <shatrat> lasindi, I had a similar problem. Have you tried editing the preferences for the gnome volume slider?  It might be controlling the wrong one.  I had to set mine to PCM
[06:09] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: negative. was i supposed to ?
[06:09] <lasindi> shatrat: chorse: ah, I think I found it; I have multiple sound cards and it's using the wrong one
[06:09] <johnc> MrWGW I think you can get blubuntu @ gnome-look.org
[06:09] <lasindi> I'm going to disable one of the cards in my BIOS
[06:09] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: I did.
[06:10] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: ok what do i remove exactly?
[06:10] <omeil_> Kelsin: don't you just run that 30mb file u download install the files. then copy over PAK0.PK3?
[06:10] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: don't remove, just comment out the line(s)  [put a '#' at the beginning of the line(s)]
[06:10] <chorse> lasindi: ah, that's great - so everything works fine now? if you have an onboard chip and aren't using it, you ought to disable it in your bios, that saves some little system resources
[06:10] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: on which lines?
[06:10] <robbie_crash> what's the site that I post snippets of text from to avoid flooding the channel?
[06:11] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: I just told you
[06:11] <nowhere> What can i do when gamesounds are out of sync? Ubuntu 6.0.6 and the game is tremulous.
[06:11] <kaushal> Hi
[06:11] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:11] <johnc> hello kaushal
[06:12] <DemisM> i got some new fonts where do I put them so that I can use 'em?
[06:12] <TSMS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370382 any suggestions?
[06:12] <kaushal> Hi johnc
[06:12] <omeil_> !paste
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[06:12] <kaushal> I get permission denied
[06:12] <robbie_crash> thanks
[06:12] <kaushal> while doing cp Kaushal_Shriyan.pdf /var/www/minitest/
[06:13] <goose> is ubuntu port scanning anyone else?
[06:13] <omeil_> For anyone who has installed Quake 3 Arena sucessfully please look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7606/
[06:13] <omeil_> keeps telling me something about the default config
[06:14] <kaushal> johnc : any clue
[06:14] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: do i put # on all the lines of screen?
[06:14] <johnc> sorry kaushal i missed the question
[06:14] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:14] <kaushal> cp Kaushal_Shriyan.pdf /var/www/test/
[06:14] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: no, only the Modes ones
[06:15] <kaushal> cp: cannot create regular file `/var/www/test/Kaushal_Shriyan.pdf': Permission denied
[06:16] <johnc> use sudo to create a root file
[06:16] <Shrimpy1> crimusn: it says i can not change it. how do i open it so it know i'm root
[06:17] <kaushal> i did sudo cp Kaushal_Shriyan.pdf /var/www/test/
[06:17] <Shrimpy1> Shrimpy: hello
[06:17] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: which editor are you using?
[06:17] <kaushal> cp: cannot stat `Kaushal_Shriyan.pdf': Permission denied
[06:17] <Shrimpy1> text editor
[06:18] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: text editor
[06:18] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: use: gksu 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:18] <johnc> kaushal, to copy a file you must first give the path to the original file then the path to where you want it
[06:18] <omeil_> Can someone help me with quake 3. it isn't running it tells me something about Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[06:19] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:19] <kaushal> ok
[06:19] <FunnyLookinHat> omeil_, my best suggestion is to search ubuntuforums.org    sorry man, not too many people on that would have installed q3 before
[06:19] <okih-imus> My friend installed Ubuntu, but he gets a grub bootloader error 21.
[06:19] <kalorin> okih: does he have a software raid (ie in the bios)?
[06:19] <kalorin> I had that problem
[06:20] <omeil_> FunnyLookinHAt: ima lookin
[06:20] <johnc> kaushal example: sudo cp /home/kaushal/file_name /var/what/ever
[06:20] <okih-imus> Yes, he has raid.
[06:20] <kalorin> can't have mirror or something going on
[06:20] <kalorin> have to break that and it'll boot then
[06:20] <DemisM> are there any good online tuts or docs on customizing ubuntu, or gnome in general? Also when I changed the panel I got errors with network-manager-gnome or nm-applet any ideas how I can get around this?
[06:20] <kalorin> pain in the a$$
[06:20] <kaushal> its still not working
[06:20] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: and i do that to ALL of the modes and save?
[06:20] <kalorin> welp, I'm off to format and install XP
[06:20] <okih-imus> Thanks
[06:20] <Shrimpy1> kalorin: why?
[06:20] <kalorin> too many tools that just aren't here yet
[06:20] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: just the lines that have "Modes"
[06:21] <kaushal> johnc : it still doesnot work
[06:21] <kalorin> I rely on stuff that's windows only and WINE wouldn't run it, and vmware just wouldn't work
[06:21] <johnc> kaushal, hmm not sure, this always works for me
[06:21] <kalorin> believe me, I wish it was otherwise
[06:21] <Supaplex> kalorin: like what?
[06:21] <okih-imus> Yeah, I can't give up the ease of use and my games that windows handles so well atm.
[06:21] <Mach4> can anyone help me with a busted windows install?  I installed linux with my windows drives (raid 0) plugged in, and because of GRUB error 21, cant boot into windows.
[06:21] <Shrimpy1> alright i did that to all the line's with mode. hopefully crimsun it won't mess up lol
[06:21] <kalorin> photoshop mainly
[06:21] <kalorin> adobe digital negative format specifically
[06:21] <Supaplex> yea, gimp as stagnated imo
[06:21] <kalorin> gimp is nice, but photoshop is >>
[06:21] <Supaplex> *nod*
[06:22] <kalorin> it's really harder to change OS's than I thought it'd be
[06:22] <kalorin> I've been working literally for like over a year to get off using anything in windows that isn't an opensoruce thing
[06:22] <eck> Mach4: what is grub error 21?
[06:22] <holly2hottie> you can run photoshop in wine or crossover office, no real reason to switch back to Winblowz XPee
[06:22] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: mmm i went to prefs> resolution and nothing samed
[06:22] <johnc> kaushal, right click on original file and check the permissions tab to make sure it is read and write
[06:22] <kalorin> but there's just a few things I can't get out of
[06:22] <kalorin> holly, elements 4 on the wine page says it doesn't work
[06:22] <Mach4> eck: you guys are supposed to tell me! :S
[06:23] <kaushal> ok
[06:23] <kalorin> and I need primier as well
[06:23] <Mach4> i dont know, i just know i cant boot into windows because of problems with this "grub" business
[06:23] <Mach4> or whatever the bootloader is called
[06:23] <Shrimpy1> kalorin: there are people who make programs just like those
[06:23] <holly2hottie> ahh well I never used elements 4, I have only used 6, 7 and cs2
[06:23] <kalorin> <--- I've spent the better part of 3 days now trying ot get vmware to install
[06:23] <eck> Mach4: pastebin your grub.conf
[06:23] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: what's the output from ``COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-i810\*|grep ^ii''
[06:23] <kalorin> and it's running but the vmware-server-console just "runs" and exits
[06:23] <kalorin> no messages
[06:24] <Supaplex> kalorin: there's #vmware for that (I forget which network)
[06:24] <kalorin> shrimpy, and I think that's all great, but I can't afford the drop in productivity spending time trying to find/learn/work around them
[06:24] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: ii  xserver-xorg-video-i810                      1.6.5-0ubuntu3                               X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[06:24] <kalorin> yeah
[06:24] <eck> if you pastebin it i will see if i can help you
[06:24] <lordkeiden> kalorin: have you looked into qemu for your virtual machine?
[06:24] <kalorin> no
[06:25] <Supaplex> vmware-server is $0 these days. qemu is FOSS
[06:25] <kalorin> part of this was that we're going to be doing vmware at work on a lot of stuff and I figured i'd learn a little about it
[06:25] <kalorin> FOSS?
[06:25] <Supaplex> free open source software
[06:25] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me? Also does anyone know if I would be better off asking for help for this particular issue in a Xorg channel, and is there a channel like that? thanks
[06:25] <Supaplex> free to use, copy, toture, and improve
[06:26] <eck> holly2hottie: check your xorg log
[06:26] <Shrimpy1> kalorin: well i think the support of linux espically ubuntu is amazing and just becasue of that i will use it (plus i hat mac's and window's always gets slow and stupid)
[06:26] <eck> that is the best place to start looking
[06:26] <ashzilla> hi all
[06:26] <lordkeiden> kalorin: if vmware is such a pita, maybe you should spend a few hours with qemu...it is slick
[06:26] <bulmer> anyone using an intel i815 chip for video have Xgl working with those 3-D ? beryl?
[06:26] <eck> i think it is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:26] <ashzilla> is there anyone I can get a list of the images at http://www.sinaimonastery.com/photos/big
[06:26] <ashzilla> anyway*
[06:26] <MrWGW> hmm I don't suppose anyone else knows of the location of that .deb?
[06:26] <kalorin> man, the new macs are what unix should be though
[06:26] <MrWGW> for some reasons the .debs on the Ubuntu website (for Edgy) don't seem to be working
[06:26] <ashzilla> The webpage I'm trying to browse is in another language
[06:26] <kalorin> frigging amazing
[06:26] <MrWGW> (for Blubuntu)
[06:26] <okih-imus> Why would someone choose linux over windows for a personal computer?
[06:26] <kalorin> just $$$
[06:27] <eck> os x is a bastardization of unix
[06:27] <ashzilla> and I cannot browse the site, so I'm trying to view the images alone
[06:27] <eck> okih-imus: because linux offers a lot that windows cannot
[06:27] <kalorin> plug in a monitor, no muss, no fuss, just poof another screen pops up and your desktop expands.
[06:27] <tplinker> i seem to be having a problem running the ubuntu live cd, the cd was proplerly made, i set bios to boot from cd it loads up to the first screen, i run the install option, my computer and cd drive respond.....and after a minute or so it freezes....any ideas?
[06:27] <ashzilla> when I try to navigate to http://www.sinaimonastery.com/photos/big, it returns me to the main page
[06:27] <Shrimpy1> yeah mac's steal shit from linux and then change a name or two and then sell it
[06:27] <okih-imus> eck: Like what?
[06:27] <eck> e.g. i am a math major, it would be a major PITA for me to use windows
[06:27] <kalorin> and with parallels it's just amazing, it can run just about anything as I've been able to tell
[06:27] <Shrimpy1> safari!
[06:27] <eck> all of the major software for math is linux-centric
[06:27] <eck> especially LaTeX and certain math packages
[06:27] <wompus-cat> i can't get the nvidia drivers to work properly....after i install them, i restart x using ctrl+alt+bkspace, it comes up with the logo and freezes....then i restart my compy and it boots into the login screen but i can hear the login screen's sound looped over constantly and when i log in it hangs after the login screen dissapears
[06:27] <kalorin> shrimpy, I just want the functionality
[06:28] <bulmer> tplinker choose the lowest resolution like vga perhaps
[06:28] <kalorin> I dont' care where it comes from
[06:28] <nowhere> Any idea's on how to fix sound sync issues with games? Using tremulous on ubuntu..
[06:28] <tplinker> in bios?
[06:28] <Shrimpy1> kalorin: i understand
[06:28] <johnc> kaushal, you there, did that work
[06:28] <Supaplex> okih-imus: flexibility, power, extendable, secure, upgrades cleanly
[06:28] <pINgpONgbOSs> yo guys :]  quick question
[06:28] <bulmer> tplinker no, during install at the boot prompt...F3 i believe
[06:28] <kaushal> yes
[06:28] <pINgpONgbOSs> how can you check how much RAM your comp has?
[06:28] <tplinker> ok
[06:28] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: free
[06:28] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: are you still there?
[06:28] <okih-imus> Windows seems to be smooth to me, I've had no problems.
[06:28] <tplinker> thanks i'll give it a try
[06:28] <eck> linux also offers a lot of scriptability and extensibility that is not possible in windows
[06:28] <eck> i guess it depends
[06:28] <wompus-cat> please someone for the love of god answer me....i can't get help or any response anywhere
[06:29] <pINgpONgbOSs> ahh thx Supaplex
[06:29] <Shrimpy1> over time window's quits on you
[06:29] <okih-imus> Hmmm...I don't know what that scriptability means.
[06:29] <bulmer> eck windows can do some scripting
[06:29] <slackmf> !codecs
[06:29] <eck> not very much, not very easily
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:29] <johnc> to check ram, type top into a termina;
[06:29] <kalorin> Shrimpy, I totally agree
[06:29] <h1st0> johnc: or install a system monitor.
[06:29] <okih-imus> Windows quits on you over time? What do you mean?
[06:29] <eck> whenever i have to use windows (e.g. at work) i always have to install cygwin
[06:29] <kalorin> I've just gotten to where I view it all simply as tools, and some are just better at some things than others
[06:29] <Supaplex> wompus-cat: how did you install the nvida drivers? you didn't wait but 60 seconds to throw a fit?
[06:29] <eck> because I work in a very linux-oriented way
[06:29] <pINgpONgbOSs> dam, it's giving me less ram than i think i have... i think >.>
[06:29] <kalorin> vmware lets you pick the best tool for the job and use it
[06:30] <h1st0> !off-topic
[06:30] <kalorin> that's all I really want
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <corevette> What advantage is there having a low latency kernel?
[06:30] <h1st0> !offtopic
[06:30] <Shrimpy1> okih-imus: no matter what you do windows will become slow and retarad and start to freeze up (crash)
[06:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <kalorin> ok qemu is installed
[06:30] <kalorin> now
[06:30] <h1st0> kalorin: you trying to get windows working through qemu?
[06:30] <Shrimpy1> don't get me wrong i love windows (its very gui friendly)
[06:30] <eck> windows has no cli to speak of, dammit
[06:30] <wompus-cat> i installed it thru the apt-get line from the edgy help....and no...i was in here earlier and noone answered
[06:30] <Mach4> eck: 1) where can i find grub.cfg?  i looked in the boot folder and see lots of grub-related files, but not that one      2) could you elaborate on "pastebin"?
[06:30] <kalorin> hist0 well photoshop and a few other things
[06:30] <okih-imus> Shrimpy1: Why would that happen?
[06:30] <eck> !pastebin
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[06:30] <Flannel> Mach4: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:30] <kalorin> I've be happier with vmware I think
[06:30] <eck> Mach4: pastebin the file /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:30] <h1st0> kalorin: did you install the kqemu module?
[06:30] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: do you have shared video memory? how much ram are you expecting? systems with 3.2+ gb might not see the remainer in 32bit mode due to pci mmio mapping
[06:31] <kalorin> no
[06:31] <eck> or alternately /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:31] <Flannel> eck, Mach4, ubuntu doesn't use grub.conf, it uses menu.lst
[06:31] <h1st0> kalorin: you may want that as well.  will speed things up.
[06:31] <alpha255> i'm trying to upgrade to dapper and changed the breezy to dapper in the sources file
[06:31] <Shrimpy1> okih-imus: because it always happens memory slowy fades away. everyone makes spyware and virus for it.
[06:31] <alpha255> apt-get complains about importing a key
[06:31] <eck> Flannel: damn, you are right
[06:31] <zero88> Does anyone know how to set your wireless card to Monitor Mode?
[06:31] <pINgpONgbOSs> i think i do have shared mem. i'm supposed to have 1 gig, and free is giving me 507k
[06:31] <drfoz> could someone help me with sound in feisty? i got it workin in ardourvst but it dont seem to wanna work on any other apps
[06:31] <Supaplex> zero88: iwconfig
[06:31] <eck> there should at least be a symlink :-)
[06:31] <Flannel> drfoz: feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <h1st0> kalorin: the howto on the wiki is lacking a few things for kqemu
[06:32] <corevette> !Iceweasel
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[06:32] <zero88> supaplex how does that set it to monitor mode
[06:32] <h1st0> !kqemu
[06:32] <ubotu> kqemu is a kernel module (now free under the GPL license) for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[06:32] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: aside from disk caching...
[06:32] <Shrimpy1> okih-imus: Window's is awesome when you first start it but then like 6 months later it becomes like me when i just wake up. slow and unreponsive
[06:32] <Flannel> alpha255: right.  So, you've done that.  What's your problem?
[06:32] <corevette> !Ubotu
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[06:32] <okih-imus> Shrimpy1: Well depending on your web browsing habits and browsers, spyware and adaware aren't much of an issue now. Also, there are plenty of tools to run to clean those problems.
[06:32] <kalorin> I don't see it in the synaptic search
[06:32] <h1st0> kalorin: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:32] <alpha255> Flannel, I don't know how to import the key?
[06:32] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supalex, disk caching..? oO
[06:32] <Supaplex> zero88: how? it uses the kernel wireless extensions api. read the man pages to figure out how you ask it to, provided your hardware supports that mode. also note, there are caveats with bridging.
[06:32] <corevette> !SuSe
[06:32] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[06:32] <Flannel> alpha255: which key?  The key is the same if the URL is the same
[06:32] <alpha255> Flannel, dpkg --import something right?
[06:33] <Flannel> alpha255: right.
[06:33] <Shrimpy1> yeah i clean like crazy and everything its just window's get's slow after a while. and many people can back me up on that.
[06:33] <corevette> !Google
[06:33] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[06:33] <zero88> supaplex where would i find the man pages?
[06:33] <Shrimpy1> !Pirates
[06:33] <eck> man man
[06:33] <Flannel> alpha255: there's instructions n the top of the source-o-matic, which will also give you keys
[06:33] <wompus-cat> i've installed the drivers using the binary from nvidia, from the syntapic manager, and from using apt-get....they all do the same thing
[06:33] <alpha255> ahh, key is in apt repository right?
[06:33] <kalorin> yeah I think ultimately really the real problem is finding the right tools for you and then finding an OS that will run them well
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pirates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Flannel> !easysource | alpha255
[06:33] <ubotu> alpha255: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:33] <kalorin> windows doesn't run them well but has all the apps
[06:33] <Mach4> eck or anyone else willing to help with broken windows: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7609/
[06:33] <alpha255> Flannel, nice
[06:33] <kalorin> so you're kind of stuck like that
[06:33] <Supaplex> zero88: open a terminal, and run man iwconfig, or in konqueror type man://iwconfig (I think)
[06:33] <Shrimpy1> window's is app crazy and i love that
[06:34] <h1st0> kalorin: well there is gimpshop etc.. if you want a more photoshop feel to gimp it even supports like 99% of the photosop plugins.
[06:34] <corevette> !PiratePartyoftheUS
[06:34] <zero88> supaplex thanks
[06:34] <drfoz> anyone had problems with sound on feisty?
[06:34] <Supaplex> zero88: enjoy =)
[06:34] <h1st0> !offtopic | drfoz
[06:34] <ubotu> drfoz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:34] <Flannel> drfoz: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support, not here.
[06:34] <kalorin> yeah but we run informatica at work and those are windows only tools
[06:34] <EdibleEgg> lookingforhelp: have a BCM4306 wireless card, using ndiswrapper, but iwconfig doesn't even have wlan0 on it, any ideas?
[06:34] <eck> Mach4: you didn't include an entry for windows?
[06:34] <kalorin> then there's the mssql server stuff that we do
[06:34] <bulmer> anyone using an intel i815 chip for video got the Xgl working with those 3-D ? beryl?
[06:34] <h1st0> EdibleEgg: ifconfig?
[06:34] <corevette> drfox: feisty support = #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <kalorin> ultimatley I thought I'd be able to get around it
[06:35] <alpha255> feisty isn't out yet right?
[06:35] <EdibleEgg> h1st0, think it was iw
[06:35] <Flannel> bulmer: #ubuntu-effects for beryl/xgl support
[06:35] <h1st0> EdibleEgg: I know try ifconfig
[06:35] <Flannel> alpha255: it's alpha software still
[06:35] <Shrimpy1> feisty has a beta
[06:35] <h1st0> EdibleEgg: see if its listed there.
[06:35] <okih-imus> Exactly what kind of person is Linux directed to? I can't seem to be productive in it at all. I find windows software to be more responsive. I don't use any obscure specialized tools either. \
[06:35] <EdibleEgg> h1st0, ok, and if it is?
[06:35] <Mach4> eck: i dont know, i just clicked the install shortcut from the livecd.. it didnt ask me to edit any boot file
[06:35] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: yes?
[06:35] <EdibleEgg> h1st0, how would i enable it, it doesnt show up in network manager
[06:35] <eck> okih-imus: it is aimed at unix users
[06:35] <davejustdav1> can i repartition my hardrive to use full space without reinstalling ubuntu? currently i am usuing half of hardrive
[06:35] <Shrimpy1> linux is for everyone!
[06:35] <mneptok> okih-imus: how many years have you been using Windows?
[06:35] <eck> if you have always used windows, of course you will be unproductive in linux
[06:35] <h1st0> EdibleEgg: well ndiswrapper and network-manager working together is beyond me perhaps someone else would know.
[06:35] <eck> that is dumb
[06:36] <okih-imus> mneptok: Uhh since windows 3.1
[06:36] <h1st0> STOP THE WINDOWS DEBATE PLEASE
[06:36] <okih-imus> k
[06:36] <drfoz> corevette> thanks
[06:36] <EdibleEgg> h1st0, well i'll check ifconfig real quick bbias
[06:36] <eck> Mach4: well you need to edit that file to include an entry for booting windows
[06:36] <mneptok> okih-imus: think that has something to do with it? ;)
[06:36] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: you asked for the display drive with colums 200 or somthing and i sent it to you ii  xserver-xorg-video-i810                      1.6.5-0ubuntu3                               X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[06:36] <Mach4> okih-imus: please stop instigating to that eck can help me!
[06:36] <Mach4> i know okih btw
[06:36] <Flannel> okih-imus: #ubuntu-offtopic, is where that question is a good topic
[06:36] <eck> Mach4: there is an example on lines 39-42
[06:36] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: that's the only line?
[06:36] <okih-imus> mneptok: probably. i just feel left out of this linux inner circle. it feels like there's something i'm not getting that everyone else is.
[06:37] <bjv> davejustdav1: yes, gparted can probably do it, you will need a livecd with the tool though
[06:37] <eck> Mach4: the important thing to get correct is the correct drive and partition
[06:37] <eck> okih-imus: what do you use your computer for?
[06:37] <davejustdav1> tnx bjv
[06:37] <Shrimpy1> well there is two crimsun but it's two short ones
[06:37] <okih-imus> programming, gaming, internet
[06:37] <alpha255> Flannel, excellent! that's just what I was looking for  gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[06:37] <eck> what programming langauge?
[06:37] <okih-imus> java, c, matlab
[06:38] <Shrimpy1> matlab
[06:38] <eck> well C is pretty much a no brainer for linux
[06:38] <eck> java and matlab aren't really any better
[06:38] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: paste all the output onto pastebin, please
[06:38] <siavashg> Can anyone help me get my USB mouse to work on my laptop?
[06:38] <eck> so there isn't a lot of incentive for you to switch if you want to continue working how you have been
[06:38] <Shrimpy1> ii  xserver-xorg-video-i810                      1.6.5-0ubuntu3                               X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[06:38] <siavashg> No usb seems to work for my laptop since I installed ubuntu
[06:38] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: no wonder, you didn't heed my suggestion
[06:38] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: thats what you wanted?
[06:38] <davejustdav1> another question... i am trying to install diablo2 on ubuntu i have installed "wine" and it recognizes the cd and steup programm but when i choose to isntall it locks up any suggestions?
[06:38] <eck> so then why argue about it?
[06:39] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: you need to install xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting
[06:39] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: I said as much over 30 hours ago
[06:39] <wompus-cat> so can anyone help me?
[06:39] <Flannel> davejustdav1: You might have more luck in #winehq (filled with people who use wine all the time)
[06:39] <kalorin> ok
[06:39] <davejustdav1> flannel tnx
[06:39] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: thats the xorg file thing (blue screen stuff) because i've done that twice
[06:39] <kalorin> shit this qemu seems to be working kind of nice
[06:39] <kalorin> most impressive
[06:39] <siavashg> when I do dmesg I get: usb 3-4: device not accepting address 12, error -110
[06:40] <kalorin> Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[06:40] <Flannel> wompus-cat: "It's broken" doesn't really tell us much.  Do you have any error messages?  Those are sometimes helpful.
[06:40] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: the output you _just_ pasted confirms that you haven't installed the correct package.
[06:40] <kalorin> what's the name of that package ?
[06:40] <wompus-cat> no error messages :/
[06:40] <h1st0> kalorin: yeah you don't have the module installed.  you have to build it yourself.
[06:40] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting
[06:40] <Flannel> wompus-cat: check in /var/log
[06:40] <h1st0> kalorin: but not sure about doing it on whatever version of ubuntu you are running perhaps search the forums.
[06:40] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: thanks
[06:40] <wompus-cat> well.....i just reinstalled so i'll have to do again and everything
[06:40] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:41] <kalorin> h1st0 it's kubuntu 6.10
[06:41] <Flannel> wompus-cat: then you'll have to yes.
[06:41] <kalorin> edgy elephant or whatever:)
[06:41] <Shrimpy1> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. crimusn
[06:41] <eck> Mach4: i am curious, what exactly were you getting error 21 from?
[06:41] <wompus-cat> when i get back in like 5 - 10 mins i'll have it tried out
[06:42] <wompus-cat> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[06:42] <wompus-cat> this is what i'm using to install the driver
[06:42] <Flannel> wompus-cat: no, don't use that one.
[06:42] <Mach4> eck: sorry, but that example is rather cryptic to me.  could you elaborate on what i might need to put in menu.lst to make the boot menu work?  as of now, if my windows disks AND linux disk are both plugged in, my pc posts, and then just sits there and doesnt do anything, no messages.   If the linux drive is unpluged and just the windows disks are plugged in, i get an "error 21" saying that grub messed up in stage 1.5
[06:42] <wompus-cat> okie
[06:42] <Flannel> !nvidia | wompus-cat
[06:42] <ubotu> wompus-cat: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:42] <bulmer> Shrimpy: you may have not the correct site on the source.lst for that package you're seeking
[06:42] <Flannel> wompus-cat: use that one.  Ubuntuguide isn't safe.
[06:42] <puff> Anybody know how to reformat an ipod in linux?
[06:42] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: nothing happened (it installed it but it already had it installed
[06:42] <wompus-cat> kk
[06:42] <pINgpONgbOSs> ooo just read the wikipedia desc for qumu
[06:42] <pINgpONgbOSs> qemu
[06:43] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[06:43] <pINgpONgbOSs> sounds interesting :]
[06:43] <eck> Mach4: ok, so I think that you need to reinstall grub first of all
[06:43] <wompus-cat> i'll try this one
[06:43] <wompus-cat> thanx flannel
[06:43] <h1st0> kalorin: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361528&highlight=kqemu
[06:43] <Dr_willis> pINgpONgbOSs,  ive had better luck with vmware..
[06:43] <Mach4> eck: i wanted to do that, but how do i reinstall just grub?
[06:43] <Shrimpy1> crimsun: sorry but you're going to have to tell me how to open it
[06:43] <Flannel> !grub | Mach4, first link
[06:43] <ubotu> Mach4, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:43] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, really? i've tried it, and it's pretty slow
[06:43] <crimsun> Shrimpy1: use the Text Editor
[06:43] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, is qemu about hte same? :(
[06:44] <eck> Mach4: you need to boot into the linux environment, e.g. by doing the rescue option on the boot cd, and then follow the instructions to run grub-install
[06:44] <johnc> hist0, are you a moderator?
[06:44] <Flannel> Mach4: that page gives you all sorts of options, dependnig on which CD you have.
[06:44] <eck> then what should happen when you boot your computer is that grub should boot up and display the boot options in the menu.lst file, and selecting one of them will allow you to boot with those parameters
[06:44] <Dr_willis> pINgpONgbOSs,  qemu isent as full featured in many ways.. but it depends on exactly what you want to do and run with it...
[06:44] <bjv> moving to 2.6.17-11 knocked out my nvidia-glx package,
[06:44] <bjv> im sure it is because i stripped out some restricted modules or something i was not using. someone with the big-picture know what i should purge and reinstall?
[06:44] <Shrimpy1> crimsun (do you want the entire thing on here) (don't want people mad at me)
[06:44] <stooges> is it really possible for linux to use mac programs that are .dmg?
[06:44] <Mach4> thanks, just to clarify, installing linux broke my windows boot, not the other way around
[06:45] <eck> when you add the windows option to menu.lst, that will allow grub to load up the windows bootloader, which then completes the windows process normally
[06:45] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, did you notice any speed differences?
[06:45] <bjv> ive just pulled and reinstalled nvidia-glx and tried pulling off and reinstalling all of restricted modules, im missing something still
[06:45] <eck> Mach4: yeah, so what happened is you used to have the windows bootloader on your master boot record (MBR)
[06:45] <robbie_crash> How can I fix these errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7608/
[06:45] <eck> and somehow grub was put on it incorrectly which results in you not being able to boot
[06:45] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, i just wanna play around with the virtual systems. nothing big
[06:45] <Dr_willis> pINgpONgbOSs,  i woul dhave to guess vmware is faster
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> crimsun:
[06:46] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all there are no error messages or anything telling me whats going on either, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> #
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # values from the debconf database.
[06:46] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, dang lol
[06:46] <crimsun> argh
[06:46] <bjv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358060&page=3   thread on nvidia errors for this kernel isnt giving very conclusive answers
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> #
[06:46] <eck> so you need to put grub on the MBR again (correctly), and then the windows option in grub will allow it to chainload the windows bootloader so that can start up windows
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
[06:46] <Mach4> eck: so i have to manually make an entry to menu.lst? or just try reinstalling grub from the provided links?
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> #
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[06:46] <Flannel> Shrimpy1: don't paste here.
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[06:46] <Dr_willis> pINgpONgbOSs,  i just use vmware to test out live cd's mainly - its easy to use.. vmwareserver is free :) so get them both
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # package.
[06:46] <matt1234> can someone help me with my apache setup? i cant get the service to start... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7610/
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> #
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> # again, run the following command:
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> Section "Files"
[06:46] <Shrimpy1> 	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
[06:46] <eck> Mach4: you need to reinstall grub so you can see the menu, and after that you can edit menu.lst and put the correct entry
[06:46] <eck> priority #1 is getting grub to not give you error 21 though
[06:46] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, yea, i tried it and uninstalled it lol. thought it was too slow to really do much
[06:47] <pINgpONgbOSs> maybe i'm just impatient ><
[06:47] <crimsun> I wonder why +q isn't working, anyhow
[06:47] <Mach4> eck: ok, and finnally, what would a correct entry look like?
[06:47] <Flannel> matt1234: looks like... do you have two httpds?  Or maybe nothing in ports.conf
[06:47] <Dr_willis> pINgpONgbOSs,  which was slow? vmware? what sort of machine ya got?
[06:47] <zero88> does anyone know how to get your internet to work again once you put it on monitor mode?
[06:48] <wompus-cat> okay Flannel ....restarting x.....i'll have everything u need when i get back
[06:48] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, ya vmware server. i got a pentium M laptop that runs regular ubuntu and xp really smoothly
[06:48] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, i think part of the problem might be that ubuntu isnt detecting my full RAM
[06:48] <h1st0> kalorin: did you get my link I sent you?
[06:48] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, i'm supposed to have 1 gig, but it shows about 512 megs T_T
[06:48] <Mach4> !grub
[06:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:48] <eck> Mach4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7611/
[06:49] <kalorin> h1st0 yepper
[06:49] <kalorin> compiled and installed
[06:49] <eck> Mach4: you will see that I added text at the bottom
[06:49] <kalorin> lets see what happens
[06:49] <Shaba2> hello folks
[06:49] <Dr_willis> pINgpONgbOSs,  i was running vmware on my Turion 1.6 ghz - 512ram - it ran 'ok' :)  its running XP and vmware with winME in it right now even.. (for the wife)
[06:49] <h1st0> kalorin: yeah if you go down they talk about seamlessrdp which is what you probably want to do.
[06:49] <Shaba2> just what I wanted to ask
[06:49] <eck> ok, i have to go now
[06:49] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: odd. even missing high ram support would atleast provide 970mbish
[06:49] <eck> good lukc
[06:49] <stooges> can anyone help me?
[06:49] <pINgpONgbOSs> Dr_willis, lol i'm on ubuntu, and it gets really slow while vmware is running XP
[06:49] <h1st0> !ask | stooges
[06:49] <ubotu> stooges: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:50] <Shaba2> anyone know any servers online that let you set up a few vmaware account
[06:50] <Shaba2> cheaply
[06:50] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, yea, u mentioned somehting about shared system memory before
[06:50] <Pwnzorz> linux mint!
[06:50] <Supaplex> Shaba2: localhost is cheap. :)
[06:50] <h1st0> Shaba2: you could just do it on your box.
[06:50] <Darkkish> quick, how do i mount a drive in livecd?
[06:50] <h1st0> Shaba2: its free
[06:50] <Shaba2> damn I asked this in the wrong wroom
[06:50] <alpha255> Pichu0102, how much memory in the machine
[06:50] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, my video card is an intel integrated media crud
[06:50] <alpha255> ?
[06:50] <Shaba2> Was supposed to be in #windows
[06:50] <pINgpONgbOSs> Suaplex, maybe that's why?
[06:50] <stooges> i was wondering if a mac's program which uses a .dmg, can be run on linux.. i installed a file that has extension of .dmg
[06:50] <Shaba2> my unbutu queston was about partitioning an ntfs drive
[06:50] <Supaplex> Shaba2: vmware-server runs on linux and windows...
[06:51] <alpha255> pINgpONgbOSs, integrated 950 on laptops is a pretty good chip
[06:51] <robbie_crash> I've got a busted synaptec dealie, problem is outlined here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7608/
[06:51] <stooges> downloaded*, not installed yet
[06:51] <alpha255> does 3d stuff well
[06:51] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: how much ram did you dedicate to video?
[06:51] <Shaba2> I need one to run a small program on the net
[06:51] <pINgpONgbOSs> alpha255, yea, it's not bad lol
[06:51] <Pwnzorz> hi
[06:51] <Darkkish> in general
[06:51] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, dedicated? i didnt set anything like that i think
[06:51] <Darkkish> how do i mount something?
[06:51] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: dedicate* sorry. :P
[06:51] <okih-imus> How do I get rid of the grub bootloader if i want to remove Ubuntu from my system if i was dual booting XP and ubuntu? the bootloader isn't in the boot sector or mbr.
[06:52] <alpha255> darkch1ld,  mount /dev/something /mnt/mountplace
[06:52] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, no, i mean, is there a setting i can change?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> okih-imus,  where is it then?
[06:52] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all there are no error messages or anything telling me whats going on either, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:52] <GenNMX> Darkkish: Buy it dinner first, or if you have exceptionally low standards, go to your local pet store.
[06:52] <okih-imus> I have no idea Dr_willis
[06:52] <MatrixMon> Is there a way I can update automatix2?
[06:52] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: that would be in the bios
[06:52] <h1st0> stooges: what is .dmb?
[06:52] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, oh... then i have no clue :x
[06:52] <h1st0> stooges: err .dmg
[06:52] <stooges> .dmg
[06:52] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, think that might be the problem?
[06:52] <stooges> a mac file
[06:53] <Dr_willis> okih-imus,  how do you know its not on the  MBR then?
[06:53] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: you'd have to reboot. or, maybe X can tell you. check the X log, and maybe dmesg or syslog for startup details.
[06:53] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, i tried to google the problem, but i dont know what to search for
[06:53] <h1st0> stooges: yeah what is it a disk image?
[06:53] <okih-imus> because i had fixmbr run from the windows recovery console
[06:53] <bjv> ok. trouble with 'nvidia-glx' package, I went to reinstall 'nvidia-glx' and it said it needs 'linux-image-2.6.17-10-386' & 'restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386'
[06:53] <bjv> this is a problem, as i am running 2.6.17-11.        what else do i need to remove/refresh? ive already done apt-get update
[06:53] <stooges> yeah... i guess yes
[06:53] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, i'll try dmesg and syslog
[06:53] <bjv> im missing something.
[06:53] <butterkitty> k Flannel
[06:53] <kalorin> mkay then
[06:53] <Dr_willis> okih-imus,  normally one would use fdisk, or some othe rpartioning tool to delete the linux partitions,  then run fixmbr,  you are saying you ran fixmbr and grub is STILL there?
[06:53] <nnliu> does anyone know how to make windows that I click on take focus? right now when i open somehting they just pop up behind my current window
[06:53] <kalorin> 50G windows XP coming up
[06:53] <kalorin> with 512meg of ram
[06:53] <kalorin> nice
[06:53] <h1st0> stooges: did you try google i'm getting a lot of results for ubuntu dmg
[06:54] <wompus-cat> i did it....should have the logs now Flannel
[06:54] <bjv> nnliu: #gnome ?
[06:54] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, holy crud dmesg filled my whole terminal screen lol
[06:54] <stooges> well i did but apparently it ain't that easy finding something.. i'm still new
[06:54] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: yea, use less :) dmesg | less
[06:54] <Flannel> wompus-cat: you get the same error using the wiki's instructions?
[06:54] <coredata> Hello
[06:54] <wompus-cat> yep
[06:54] <stooges> ill look again
[06:54] <nnliu> k
[06:54] <wompus-cat> i get the same error doin it any way i can
[06:54] <wompus-cat> i downloaded the driver from nvidia still got it
[06:54] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, found this: [17179569.420000]  Memory: 501472k/515964k available (1911k kernel code, 13852k reserved, 1073k data, 308k init, 0k highmem)
[06:55] <Flannel> wompus-cat: the nv driver (default) works though, right?
[06:55] <kalorin> too funny
[06:55] <wompus-cat> i'm running 6.10.....when i was running 6.06 i could get it np
[06:55] <wompus-cat> yar...nv works fine
[06:55] <empty_mind> hey guys there is a guy in ##linux complaining about being banned from #ubuntu
[06:55] <wompus-cat> i'm usin that right now
[06:55] <stooges> mostly those dmg files are converting .dmg to .iso.. i'm talking about a 1mb file, not 700 mb
[06:55] <h1st0> stooges: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages#head-fc14558e9b3177677844d5851cd01ed8ee7dea4a
[06:55] <empty_mind> he wants to know how can he be unbanned from #ubuntu
[06:56] <Flannel> empty_mind: if he wants to talk about it, #ubuntu-ops is the place to go
[06:56] <empty_mind> ok thanks Flannel
[06:56] <holly2hottie>  hey, I have a question... while running gnome on edgy w/ all the aviliable updates my Xserver seems to be closing completly and restarts for no reason at all there are no error messages or anything telling me whats going on either, is there anyone that can help me?
[06:56] <lufis> holly2hottie: try asking on the forums :)
[06:56] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: I would google for things like missing ram / memory linux and your laptop + maybe the model to
[06:56] <kalorin> holly: is there a log?
[06:56] <Lunar_Lamp> empty_mind, he needs to speak to one of the ops. i think messaging #ubuntu.ops or #ubuntu-ops would work.
[06:56] <lufis> holly2hottie: ubuntuforums.org
[06:56] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, kk
[06:56] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, thx for helping :]
[06:56] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: if your run memtest, does it report similar results?
[06:57] <empty_mind> Lunar_Lamp, i communicated the same to him
[06:57] <pINgpONgbOSs> from the grub menu?
[06:57] <pINgpONgbOSs> i havent tried that yet
[06:57] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, oops forgot to put ur username in front
[06:57] <bjv> so, anyone familiar with what packages i need to manipulate in Apt?
[06:57] <bjv> some version is wrong.
[06:57] <h1st0> holly2hottie: what about the logs?
[06:57] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, havent tried to run memtest yet. i know that windows XP is detecting 1 gig
[06:57] <coredata> confidential
[06:57] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: yea. provided something silly, like forced memory clipping isn't passed to the kernel. eg, mem=500mb
[06:58] <h1st0> holly2hottie: does it do it randomly also or are you doing something when it happens like hitting ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:58] <wompus-cat> i know there's nuttin wrong with the card cuz i use it in windows or ubuntu 6.06 no probs
[06:58] <kalorin> wompus-cat are you having issues with vmware?
[06:58] <wompus-cat> i'm not usin vmware
[06:58] <wompus-cat> i got dualboot
[06:58] <kalorin> ah ok
[06:58] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: cat /proc/cmdline ; echo (don't paste). do you see any mem= lines?
[06:58] <kalorin> heh
[06:58] <nf4> hello
[06:58] <kalorin> I like linux boxes to have nice uptimes that are in the years
[06:58] <cafuego_> kalorin: done
[06:59] <kalorin> have a trouble child at work (dell 32g of ram and stuff) that just locks sometimes
[06:59] <Supaplex> kalorin: and full of exploit possibilities, oh my! :)
[06:59] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, lemme try that
[06:59] <kalorin> rebooted it, said 768days since last fscked'
[06:59] <h1st0> lol
[06:59] <stooges> i dont think .dmg files would work in linuz.. its not an iso but probably programs are different
[06:59] <cafuego_> 16:59:11 up 525 days,  2:07,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[06:59] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, wats the ";" for? oO
[06:59] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supapex, part of hte command?
[06:59] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: seperates command line calls.
[06:59] <kalorin> I have 1 box that was there and started about 4 weeks after I did 5 years ago
[07:00] <kalorin> still running redhat 7.2
[07:00] <kalorin> poor old thing
[07:00] <Supaplex> poor roothat box
[07:00] <wompus-cat> hehe
[07:00] <kalorin> damn business just will NOT let us migrate off that old crappy code
[07:00] <wompus-cat> i just wish i could get this to work
[07:00] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, nope, i dont see mem= lines
[07:00] <kalorin> what can you do?
[07:00] <cafuego_> kalorin: virtualise it
[07:00] <holly2hottie> h1st0: I am not hitting ctrl alt backspace. I am not sure which log files I would even need to look at to find out what to do about this either. But that useally is happening while I am in Firefox browsing the web in gnome. Right now I am in XFCE and I havent seemed to have had that issue yet. But its speratic, like sometimes w/in 3 min or starting GNOME sometimes like 1 - 2 hrs after starting GNOME
[07:01] <stooges> how easy is it to use GTK 2.0, what do i need to do to install that?
[07:01] <wompus-cat> i can't find anything in the Xorg logs that look to out of the ordinary, but then again i don't know too much about it in the first place
[07:01] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: strange. I think you can use mem= to force larger memory to, but maybe it's mapped funny. google around and see what you find. also, html output from cpuz (windows) somewhere might be resourceful to us.
[07:01] <mneptok> wompus-cat: nVidia+Edgy?
[07:01] <kalorin> ok so why is everyone so impressed with vmware with this qemu is so easy to set up?
[07:01] <bonii> I use Dapper on my laptop but when I hibernate my laptop then again I start it it doesnt start up the Xserver hangs what might be the problem please help out
[07:01] <kalorin> i don't get it?
[07:01] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, is the only way to run memtest through reboot?
[07:01] <wompus-cat> yar, i'm running edgy
[07:02] <bjv> wompus-cat: did you loose your nvidia drivers when you updated the kernel? or just trying to get them working?
[07:02] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, and i didnt get hte last part about cpuz lol
[07:02] <bjv> im trying to get them working again after an update
[07:02] <wompus-cat> trying to get them working
[07:02] <Supaplex> kalorin: try booting from cd the first time only while using snapshot mode. :(
[07:02] <h1st0> holly2hottie: hrm... well logs are in /var/log  like /var/log/Xorg.0.log etc...
[07:02] <mneptok> wompus-cat: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules nvidia-glx
[07:02] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: cpuz is a windows program. it'll let you save a html report.
[07:02] <kalorin> eh?
[07:02] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: it describes the cpu, memory and other spiffy details.
[07:02] <wompus-cat> yeah, i did that b4
[07:03] <kalorin> supaplex? qemu doesn't like that I guess?
[07:03] <Supaplex> kalorin: qemu can't do that. yea :(
[07:03] <holly2hottie> h1st0: thanks, I will go and look at them now, I am not sure exactly what I am to be looking for so I will upload a copy to pastebin also and send the link to you
[07:03] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, ah i see
[07:03] <mneptok> wompus-cat: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv
[07:03] <bonii> I use Dapper on my laptop but when I hibernate my laptop then again I start it it doesnt start up the Xserver hangs what might be the problem please help out
[07:03] <kalorin> well vmware is a nightmare of lib issues right now it seems for 6.10
[07:03] <kalorin> 6.06 might work I guesss
[07:03] <h1st0> holly2hottie: the end of the file probably want Xorg.0.log.old or whatever the last one was.
[07:03] <kalorin> not sure
[07:03] <wompus-cat> i'm usin the nv driver right now
[07:03] <warlock> what is the command to set a specefic size to a dir? so the dir can't be larger then 10mb for an example?
[07:03] <kalorin> every fix I tried got it a little closer and then I ran out of fixes
[07:03] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  it is?  it installed fine for me...
[07:03] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, just making sure, but the swap has nothing to do with RAM right?
[07:04] <bonii> I use Dapper on my laptop but when I hibernate my laptop then again I start it it doesnt start up the Xserver hangs what might be the problem please help out
[07:04] <kalorin> the server?
[07:04] <kalorin> from the tar.gz?
[07:04] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: correct. free reports them seperate.
[07:04] <mneptok> wompus-cat: so what is it you're trying to do?
[07:04] <kalorin> I had a hell of a time
[07:04] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, cause if i just add the [free]  and the swap... xD
[07:04] <Dr_willis> kalorin, yes.
[07:04] <Supaplex> hehe
[07:04] <kalorin> well
[07:04] <wompus-cat> install the nvidia 3d acceleration driver on ubuntu 6.10
[07:04] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  i do tend to install all sorts of extra things - but i got it running fine.
[07:04] <kalorin> vmware-server-console I run and it just hangs for a moment then exits with no messages
[07:05] <Supaplex> kalorin: did you try strace?
[07:05] <kalorin> first it was complaining about libpng12.so.1
[07:05] <wompus-cat> that's what i'm trying to do mneptok
[07:05] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  i just run the 'vmware' command.. H.,,,
[07:05] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, found a couple of forums where ppl recommended running memtest
[07:05] <Dr_willis> the libpng is just a 'warning' not a real issue.
[07:05] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, think imma do that
[07:05] <kalorin> oh the server processes are running
[07:05] <mneptok> wompus-cat: if you installed those 2 packages all you need to do is enable the driver in xorg.conf
[07:05] <Supaplex> vmware-install is pretty sharp about detecting missing libraries.  I installed a bare metal box, and it yelled for missing libs before I continued.
[07:05] <kalorin> I can't get the management console to run
[07:05] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, just reboot and run from the grub menu right?
[07:05] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: yea, assuming you have memtest installed right.
[07:06] <wompus-cat> i get it installed but it hangs at the logo after restarting X....then when i reboot, the login screen sound loops and i try to log in and it hangs there
[07:06] <threeonefour_> i know there is a new project or something where you can install ubuntu on a windows partition and have the windows boot loader boot ubuntu   but what is the link for that
[07:06] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, yup, i see it besides ubuntu and windows
[07:06] <Dr_willis> kalorin i dont even have vmware-server-console :) i may of not installed that part
[07:06] <wompus-cat> i can install the driver and have it work fine in 6.06
[07:06] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, thanks for ur help man. it's my first time in here. actually, my first time actually talking in IRC
[07:06] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: run with it (pun intended) ;-)
[07:06] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  oh wait 'vmware' runs vnware-server-console.
[07:06] <wompus-cat> so, there's something weird
[07:06] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex :')
[07:06] <kalorin> well that hangs and then exits
[07:06] <kalorin> same deal
[07:06] <kalorin> I can strace it
[07:06] <rirudepanci> hi, when i run winecfg i get thi error message: "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" and the config window does not appear, can anyone help me?
[07:07] <kalorin> yeah I have the apache working and the vmware server stuff working
[07:07] <stooges> what do i have to do to be able to use GTK 2.0?  i want to install something but i want be sure I have the required packages..etc
[07:07] <kalorin> then it just hangs
[07:07] <Supaplex> stooges: as in dpkg -l gtk ?
[07:07] <kalorin> strace takes a while, loads a lot of stuff
[07:07] <wompus-cat> i update to 6.10 and it doesn't want to work....i install from the 6.10 cd and do nothing but go straight into installing the driver and it doesn't work
[07:07] <stooges> i guesss, i found some themes so i wondered.
[07:07] <bjv> question: has anyone who had a problem w/ nvidia-glx on upgrade to 2.6.17-11 got it working??
[07:07] <Supaplex> kalorin: -o is a must have :)
[07:07] <bjv> or should i just concentrate on rolling back to 2.6.17-10
[07:07] <kalorin> here, join #kal?
[07:08] <bjv> because something is broken in apt- and i cannot find it.
[07:08] <threeonefour_> i know there is a new project or something where you can install ubuntu on a windows partition and have the windows boot loader boot ubuntu   but what is the link for that
[07:08] <h1st0> threeonefour_: its in the forums
[07:08] <MatrixMon> Can anyone help me load Winxp on to Daper 6.0 with vmware player?
[07:08] <h1st0> threeonefour_: let me find it hold up
[07:08] <bjv> nvidia-glx under 2.6.17-11 is saying i need 2.6.17-10-386 restricted modules.
[07:08] <threeonefour_> h1st0, thank you
[07:08] <necrite_> hi all
[07:09] <rirudepanci> hi, when i run winecfg i get this error message: "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" and the config window does not appear, can anyone help me?
[07:09] <kalorin> mkay
[07:09] <bjv> has anyone had trouble with nvidia-glx in 2.6.17-11 and got it working?
[07:09] <h1st0> threeonefour_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338279&highlight=windows+installer
[07:09] <necrite_> imagemagic not suppor JPG image in ubuntu ?
[07:09] <bjv> i cant get it to use the correct restricted modules package
[07:09] <wompus-cat> i'm having trouble with 2.6.17-10 and -11 and i can't get it working
[07:09] <wompus-cat> but i can't get it working in another way
[07:09] <warlock> what is the command to set a specefic size to a dir? so the dir can't be larger then 10mb for an example?
[07:10] <bjv> you can get it working in -10?
[07:10] <wompus-cat> i can't
[07:10] <_3uG_> could someone please help me with my gameport joystick? i've been trying to get this thing to work ever since edgy came out with absolutely no success (and it used to work in dapper and debian sarge/etch)
[07:10] <wompus-cat> my system hangs at the logo or after login
[07:10] <bjv> oh, i cant even get the nvidia logo up
[07:10] <bjv> what card?
[07:10] <kalorin> heh 12.1meg of strace out of the vmware process...
[07:11] <kalorin> nice
[07:11] <wompus-cat> 7600GT 256mb
[07:11] <wompus-cat> PCI-E
[07:11] <chamiltonj> I  could use some guidance with a intel hda sound card
[07:11] <h1st0> !sound | chamiltonj
[07:11] <ubotu> chamiltonj: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:11] <wompus-cat> where did flannel go?
[07:12] <h1st0> !joystick | _3uG_
[07:12] <ubotu> _3ug_: joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB
[07:12] <corevette> !WhereDidFlannelGo
[07:12] <wompus-cat> lol
[07:12] <h1st0> lol
[07:12] <corevette> !Flannel
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flannel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <wompus-cat> i find help and they leave...awsome hehe
[07:12] <corevette> dannggg
[07:13] <kalorin> ok anything particular in here you want me to look for?
[07:13] <Asl[a] n> i am getting a lot of these when I run fsck.ext3 -b 32768 - yeah, superblock's corrupt
[07:13] <warlock> what is the command to set a specefic size to a dir? so the dir can't be larger then 10mb for an example?
[07:13] <Asl[a] n> Error reading block 9764865 (Invalid argument) while reading inode and block bitmaps.  Ignore error<y>? yes
[07:13] <Asl[a] n> can anyone help me to fix this? i sure don't want to lose all the data on the disk- and right now, i cannot make backup either
[07:13] <h1st0> warlock: quota?
[07:13] <_3uG_> i have the joystick package installed. i've mknoded and modprobed everything that's required.
[07:14] <h1st0> warlock: qouta  I can't spell yay
[07:14] <holly2hottie> h1st0: http://pastebin.com/889079
[07:14] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, lol oen last questoin
[07:14] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, if i decide to use the mem= option, what should the parameter be?
[07:14] <warlock> yeah, quota - but I dunno how to use it?
[07:14] <_3uG_> and lsmod returns everything that it should.. so i'm stumped.
[07:14] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, i just know that it's not a whole 1000M
[07:15] <kalorin> stat64("/etc/vmware/not_configured", 0xbfee436c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:15] <_3uG_> cat /dev/input/js0 keeps saying "no such device"
[07:15] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  you did run that vmware configuration script?
[07:15] <kalorin> yeah
[07:15] <kalorin> all 3 of them
[07:15] <snowpunk98> Can I ask a dumb question
[07:16] <Dr_willis>  vmware-config.pl   is all ive ever ghad to run
[07:16] <nnliu> does anyone know how to make windows that I click on take focus? right now when i open somehting they just pop up behind my current window
[07:16] <chamiltonj> hlst0: Tried that, all day it seems.  Seems like it a specific problem with my card
[07:16] <kalorin> keep in mind this is after I've installed it like 4 times
[07:16] <Asl[a] n> snowpunk98, only if its dumbed down enough for us dumb ones :P and yeah, you'll get don't ask to ask any moment now.
[07:16] <Asl[a] n> just ask away
[07:17] <tanlaan> why is there a "move to trash" function for usb drives under ubuntu? Is there any way to disable it? I find it annoying to have to go into a terminal and "rm -r" the .Trash folder
[07:17] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: try how ever much memtest or windows sees
[07:17] <h1st0> warlock: I know a lot of howto's on howtoforge talk about quota for an isp setup.
[07:17] <pINgpONgbOSs> Supaplex, i just know that windows shows .99 gigs when i to go My Computer's Properties. i'll try memtest then
[07:17] <snowpunk98> When I setup a Windows machine I always create a C partition for just the OS and usually programs and the remainder of the disk for dynamic/static data
[07:17] <warlock> h1st0, care to link?
[07:18] <snowpunk98> When I create partitions in linux what would be the equivalent
[07:18] <Soccer5555> gah violot has gone crazy
[07:18] <Soccer5555> creating a script to write .
[07:18] <Soccer5555> over and over again
[07:18] <h1st0> warlock: let me find one.
[07:18] <warlock> thanks
[07:18] <Supaplex> pINgpONgbOSs: how much video ram do you have? error on the side of caution of you don't know. eg, round down. your box will crash pretty quick if you over estimate :)
[07:18] <warlock> brb smoke meanwhile
[07:19] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: you would make a 10mb boot partition, a 200mb+ swap partition, then the rest of the drive would be your / *root* partition
[07:19] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, video ram? i'm not sure what you mean
[07:19] <wompus-cat> i get it installed but it hangs at the logo after restarting X....then when i reboot, the login screen sound loops and i try to log in and it hangs there....i can install the driver and have it work fine in 6.06....i update to 6.10 and it doesn't want to work....i install from the 6.10 cd and do nothing but go straight into installing the driver and it doesn't work
[07:19] <kalorin> Dr_willis, ok it did come with this error in the config:
[07:19] <pINgpONgbOSs> supaplex, how can I check
[07:19] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, 10MB boot do you mean 10GB
[07:19] <h1st0> warlock: not sure which page its on but its in the tutorial http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[07:19] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: the root partition is like the C partition in windows
[07:19] <kalorin> Unable to install the .desktop menu entry file. You must add it to your menus
[07:19] <kalorin> by hand.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  thats trivial.. means it dident cfigure out how to make the vmware icon in the menus
[07:20] <kalorin> right
[07:20] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: nope, i mean 10 mb that is all you should need for the boot partition *its where grub goes to load up linux or any other OS on your computer*
[07:20] <kalorin> that's what i gathered
[07:20] <warlock> thanks h1st0
[07:20] <h1st0> warlock: np
[07:20] <kalorin> then it says that none of the prebuilt vmmon modules for vmware server is suitable
[07:20] <nnliu> does anyone know how to make windows that I click on take focus? right now when i open somehting they just pop up behind my current window
[07:20] <kalorin> and asks to build one
[07:20] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, oh what about swap, I currently have a 1GB swap
[07:20] <kalorin> which I said to go ahead
[07:20] <Soccer5555> everyone to noenemies
[07:20] <kalorin> and it goes through make and all that jazz fine
[07:21] <Dr_willis> nnliu,  try asking in gnome yet? It sounds more like ya got a bug then a 'setting'
[07:21] <kalorin> saying that module loads pefectly in the running kernel
[07:21] <nnliu> i asked in gnome
[07:21] <nnliu> no answer -.-
[07:21] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: I dont think you will be needing THAT much for swap, swap is just to put the things your RAM cant handle at the moment. How much RAM do you have?
[07:21] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, 1GB
[07:21] <Mad_Doctor> is there any irc / webforum channel dedicated to free software development? - i don't like mailing lists!
[07:21] <kalorin>    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[07:21] <mackinac> snowpunk98:  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preparing.html
[07:21] <kalorin> I do get that
[07:21] <Dr_willis> nnliu,  make a new user,, see if the issue affects them as well.
[07:21] <rkyraccoon55> anyone here know of a good guide for beryl?
[07:22] <nnliu> k
[07:22] <kalorin> not 100% sure hy
[07:22] <kalorin> why
[07:22] <nnliu> maybe it's beryl that's doing it
[07:22] <nnliu> i'll check
[07:22] <nnliu> thx
[07:22] <snowpunk98> I am already running ubuntu edgy dual booting with Windows but I kinda wanna do away with Windows and go full linux
[07:22] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: yea you really dont need that much, but its fine if you dont want to take the time to change it
[07:22] <mackinac> oops wrong link
[07:22] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: its not going to harm anything
[07:22] <wompus-cat> i'm having problems with installing the nvidia drivers....i get them installed but it hangs at the logo after restarting X....then when i reboot, the login screen sound loops and i try to log in and it hangs there....i can install the driver and have it work fine in 6.06....i update to 6.10 and it doesn't want to work....i install from the 6.10 cd and do nothing but go straight into installing the driver and it doesn't work
[07:23] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: I currently have what I told you and 1gb of RAM and im doing great
[07:23] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, if I want the ability in the future to just remove the OS but leave my data behind (example being in windows where I could reinstall windows on C and my data on D is fine)
[07:23] <kalorin>    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[07:23] <kalorin> The configuration of VMware Server 1.0.0 build-28343 for Linux for this running
[07:23] <kalorin> kernel completed successfully.
[07:23] <kalorin> so that's happy
[07:23] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, How would I set that up 10MB boot, 1GB swap, root is data or the OS?
[07:24] <kalorin> Dr_willis, does yours then go into another management interface configurator? vmware-config-mui.pl
[07:24] <nowhere> I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!
[07:24] <rkyraccoon55> anyone here know of a good guide for beryl?
[07:24] <rkyraccoon55> i just got it and dont know how to use it
[07:24] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: hmm root is usually everything, your OS and data. But I suppose you could seperate your drive into another partition so you have one for OS and one for your personal date
[07:24] <tanlaan> *data
[07:25] <kalorin> I did 100mb for /boot, then / and swap
[07:25] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: I just dont know how much you would want to save for the OS and the applications
[07:25] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  i dont have a vmware-config-mui.pl
[07:25] <kalorin> I just don't trust boot loaders
[07:25] <kalorin> interesting
[07:25] <kalorin> k
[07:25] <kalorin> maybe I nuke that and do a reinstall
[07:25] <Dr_willis> kalorin,  you may of installed somthing else i never installed.
[07:25] <kalorin> if you've got it running without that stuff
[07:26] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, My concern is that if I put my data on the same partition with my OS and my OS gets screwed up so bad I lose my data
[07:26] <Dr_willis> there were some extra vmware server 'things' i think - that i dident install.
[07:26] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: what kind of data are you talking about?
[07:26] <kalorin> that's interesting
[07:26] <snowpunk98> tanlaan, Pictures, music, documents, etc important things I dont want to lose
[07:26] <kalorin> cause I thought you needed all 3
[07:26] <kalorin> 3 packages
[07:27] <kalorin> mui and server and server-console
[07:27] <kalorin> so i installed them all
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I belive ive just installed the 'server' package..
[07:27] <nf4> any one use flickr?
[07:27] <mackinac> snowpunk98:  make "/home" separate from "/" (root)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> not even sure what the others do. :)
[07:27] <threeonefour_> h1st0, have you tried to use this install method
[07:28] <snowpunk98> mackinac, How big should I make root
[07:28] <tanlaan> snowpunk98: listen to him, im a noob :P haha
[07:28] <holly2hottie> h1st0: were you able to checkout my logfiles?
[07:28] <snowpunk98> lol
[07:29] <snowpunk98> Im really trying to decide if I should fully switch to Ubuntu
[07:29] <h1st0> holly2hottie: yeah nothing really there. hrm...
[07:29] <snowpunk98> Or if I should keep dual booting with Windows
[07:29] <kalorin> snowpunk98, I think ubuntu is the best dist going right now
[07:29] <h1st0> holly2hottie: perhaps try different video drivers maybe is the only thing I would try to see if it goes away.
[07:29] <kalorin> I've run debian for a while now on my server cause it's light and easy install but I'm going to switch next hardware upgrade
[07:30] <wompus-cat> i would totally switch if i could install my video card drivers
[07:30] <kalorin> and redhat at work, and it's just terrible anymore with package dependencies
[07:30] <h1st0> threeonefour_: nope
[07:30] <snowpunk98> kalorin, I would agree however I'm not sure if I will need windows for something down the line like games or MS only applications
[07:30] <wompus-cat> but since nobody seems to have a clue, i'm about to say, linux sucks and go back to windows
[07:30] <kalorin> snow, that's why i'm trying to set up vmware
[07:30] <kalorin> cause of the productivity stuff, now games, that's anyone's guess
[07:30] <alpha255> fedora 6 isn't bad
[07:30] <h1st0> snowpunk98: just dual boot and then you don't have to worry bout it.  Although I haven't been in windows in months.
[07:30] <snowpunk98> ah
[07:30] <kalorin> I don't play much and most of the games that I do occasionally play are linuxable
[07:31] <alpha255> i also run edgy and like it too
[07:31] <holly2hottie> h1st0: hmmm... well any ideas? could it be a GNOME issue, or do you think it is something w/ X? Right now as far as video drivers I am using the default ones for my laptop. nothing fancy like the nvidea or radien drivers
[07:31] <mackinac> snowpunk98:  my root is usually 4 to 6 GB
[07:31] <snowpunk98> I just dont like this fat32 partition sitting here being all old and ugly :(
[07:31] <mackinac> with room to spare
[07:31] <snowpunk98> mackinac, And that will be enough for the OS and all applications?
[07:31] <nowhere> I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!
[07:31] <h1st0> holly2hottie: well you said you were running fluxbox also?
[07:32] <h1st0> holly2hottie: if that restarts then its an Xorg problem not a gnome problem.  Or it could be hardware.
[07:32] <mackinac> snowpunk98:  its been enough for me... i dont go grazy installing extra stuff
[07:32] <mackinac> s/crazy/grazy
[07:33] <zalpha254> can anyone help with a grub problem? i reinstalled windows and it overwrote grub, after restoring grub i get an "Error 17: cannot mount selected partition" when I try to boot ubuntu... any ideas?
[07:33] <holly2hottie> h1st0: not fluxbox xfce. and I havent had that problem yet on here, but my g/f is the one that has to use this and she kinda likes the feel and all of GNOME
[07:34] <h1st0> holly2hottie: well if xfce isn't resetting the X server then I would assume it may be a gnome problem only.
[07:34] <h1st0> holly2hottie: hrm....  The drivers shouldn't really matter but that may be worth a try.
[07:34] <h1st0> !ati | holly2hottie
[07:34] <ubotu> holly2hottie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:35] <h1st0> !grub | zalpha254
[07:35] <ubotu> zalpha254: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:35] <wompus-cat> i wish it were that easy for me......
[07:35] <jmazaredo> is xorg and xserver different?
[07:36] <zalpha254> i already restored grub by following that tutorial... inside grub it says "error 17 cannot mount partition" for ubuntu partition only
[07:36] <rkyraccoon55> i cant get beryl to do anything its supposed to do
[07:36] <kalorin> ok so just install the vmware server package and that's it then
[07:36] <kalorin> do the config and done
[07:36] <wompus-cat> *sigh*
[07:37] <Frogzoo> !beryl | rkyraccoon55 Beryl is beta atm:
[07:37] <ubotu> rkyraccoon55 Beryl is beta atm:: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:37] <kalorin> wompus-cat, did you check nvidia's site for drivers there?
[07:37] <wompus-cat> i tried their drivers too...same issue
[07:38] <kalorin> hrms...
[07:38] <kalorin> what exactly are you seeing again?
[07:38] <holly2hottie> h1st0 and ubotu: Thank you both for all your help and sugestions. I am going to check out the 3D-drivers as mentioned. How do I go about finding out exactly what video chip/card I have? I dont really have much of any info on the hardware on this laptop
[07:38] <wompus-cat> i get them installed but it hangs at the logo after restarting X....then when i reboot, the login screen sound loops and i try to log in and it hangs there....i can install the driver and have it work fine in 6.06....i update to 6.10 and it doesn't want to work....i install from the 6.10 cd and do nothing but go straight into installing the driver and it doesn't work
[07:38] <kalorin> I'm not an expert by any means though, so bear with me
[07:38] <kalorin> sorry
[07:39] <kalorin> weird
[07:39] <wompus-cat> yeah...i think so too
[07:39] <kalorin> I have an ATI x700 pro and had all kinds of issues
[07:39] <kalorin> maybe something about the way it's clocked in the bios?
[07:39] <kalorin> or some toggle in there saying vga pallet snoop or something that might cause it to get goofy?
[07:40] <nnliu_> any1 familiar w/ beryl? i have asked in beryl channel but no1 really responding
[07:40] <nowhere> I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!
[07:40] <h1st0> holly2hottie: lspci | grep VGA
[07:40] <headphase> hello, I am having trouble resizing partitions with GParted
[07:40] <holly2hottie> h1st0: thank you!!
[07:41] <h1st0> holly2hottie: and btw ubotu is a robot not a real person.
[07:41] <wompus-cat> hmmm
[07:41] <threeonefour_> !tux
[07:41] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[07:41] <wompus-cat> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[07:41] <wompus-cat> 	No such file or directory.
[07:42] <wompus-cat> Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory
[07:42] <holly2hottie> h1st0: lol, the name looked fishy, but I tried to give the benifit of it being a real person, lol
[07:42] <wompus-cat> that's from when i'm using the nvidia driver
[07:42] <wompus-cat> Error opening /dev/wacom : Success <---- this is from using the NV driver
[07:43] <achandra> dang..been a long long time since ive been in here...its like an old blanket or jacket...it just feels warm and its just right. ;)
[07:43] <wompus-cat> lol
[07:43] <wompus-cat> u an expert achandra?
[07:44] <kalorin> hrms...
[07:44] <kalorin> what do you make of this:
[07:44] <kalorin>    Starting httpd.vmware:-ne                                          failed
[07:44] <kalorin> WARNING: could not find /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/.smac_linux.x386.o.cmd for /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/smac_linux.x386.o
[07:44] <nnliu_> i have pinned the window staying behind problem to beryl
[07:44] <achandra> wompus-cat: gave up a buck 10 Linux gig to go back into education and teach high school mathematics...thought it would balance me out..which it has...I discovered my skills are slipping.
[07:44] <achandra> and you?
[07:45] <wompus-cat> me....i'm very willing to learn....but i'm having nuttin but probs right now :/
[07:45] <nowhere> I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!
[07:45] <achandra> nvidia problems huh?
[07:45] <davejustdave> is ther a list of chatrooms other than this one?
[07:46] <wompus-cat> yar....nvidia probs wit me
[07:46] <wompus-cat> u wanna go in IM achandra?
[07:46] <achandra> sure why not
[07:46] <wompus-cat> i gotta register my nick first
[07:46] <wompus-cat> lol
[07:47] <nowhere> just join channel #wompus
[07:47] <achandra> no problem i just did that myself..lol
[07:47] <nowhere> or something
[07:47] <kalorin> just make a new channel
[07:47] <wompus-cat> done
[07:47] <wompus-cat> hehe
[07:47] <wompus-cat> i'm in #wompus
[07:48] <Mach3> Hi, i am having boot troubles.  My pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7619/   Please help
[07:48] <kalorin> heh
[07:48] <kalorin> my favorite part of any windows install.... Your computer will be faster and more reliable!
[07:48] <kalorin> <insert marketing text here>
[07:49] <kalorin> ok so vmware installed _AGAIN_
[07:49] <kalorin> back ot the same libpng12.so.1 error
[07:49] <zzaappp> I'm installing the desktop for the very first time, and its running painfully slowly.  I'm assuming swapon was never called, and its been like 45 mins since the install started, but its still only on partitioning.
[07:49] <zzaappp> any way to speed this up?
[07:50] <nnliu_> installation goes slow, has u'r computer froze?
[07:51] <zzaappp> no, not frozen... as I said, the cdrom still blinks, and the GUI side eventually updates the mouse as I drag it around.  but its really slow.
[07:51] <kalorin> and there you have it
[07:51] <nowhere> I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!
[07:52] <zzaappp> i'm at the low end of available memory, 128 mb.
[07:52] <Mach3> I installed Ubuntu from the liveCD, and now i cant boot into Windows (or linux w/o a bit of trouble).  Can anyone help?
[07:53] <Flannel> zzaappp: Desktop CD needs 192mb RAM, you should use the alternate CD
[07:54] <zzaappp> what is different about alternate?  memory requirement?
[07:54] <Flannel> zzaappp: no liveCD.  Just an installer
[07:54] <Dictionary> question?!?! is there a way i can update to ubuntu x.10 without having to reinstall everything allover
[07:54] <DaSkreech> How do I configure the pictures folder screensaver?
[07:55] <Flannel> !upgrade | Dictionary
[07:55] <ubotu> Dictionary: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:55] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | Dictionary
[07:55] <zzaappp> ah, sounds better.  its just finished starting step 6 of 6 on the install.  i'll let it go another 30 minutes and see if it actually starts the install.  meanwhile i'm downloading alternate.
[07:55] <Mach3> I installed Ubuntu from the liveCD, and now i cant boot into Windows (or linux w/o a bit of trouble).  Can anyone help?
[07:55] <Mach3> please
[07:55] <Flannel> Mach3: have you tried reinstalling Grub?
[07:56] <Mach3> Flannel: what does that consist of? :|
[07:56] <achandra> Have a note for all - I have installed the PowerPC 6.06 on over 10 computers at our school.  That is all on G3's/G4s with 383MB of ram. SWEET!
[07:56] <Flannel> !grub | Mach3, first link
[07:56] <ubotu> Mach3, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:57] <DaSkreech> How do I configure thw pictures folder screensaver?
[07:57] <Mach3> Flannel: its wordy, but this is my situaltion..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7620/
[07:58] <Morg0> I have 6.10 installed and screen saver activated with lock. When I reenter my password, my programs have closed down ? Any ideas
[07:58] <Dictionary> Mach3: does it give you an error?
[07:58] <Mach3> Dictionary: see here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7620/
[07:58] <hueblur> anyone awake?
[07:59] <Flannel> hueblur: nope.  no one.
[08:00] <wompus-cat> what's the command to check rendering?
[08:00] <Dictionary> Mach3: what i ended up what that happend is reinstall both...when having windows and linux i when and bought a external hard drive and copyed all my info...
[08:00] <wompus-cat> to check if it's on in x i mean.... 3d rendering
[08:00] <Dictionary> Mach3:: or if u have windows cd
[08:00] <kalorin> OMG, it worked!
[08:00] <Dictionary> Mach3:: u can rix windows then only reinstall linux
[08:01] <wompus-cat> "direct rendering: Yes"
[08:01] <wompus-cat> omg
[08:01] <wompus-cat> the problem was my sound
[08:01] <kalorin> heh
[08:01] <kalorin> even better, not only did it work, it's already found that I'm running an older version! :)
[08:01] <kalorin> yay!
[08:01] <Mach3> Dictionary: fixing windows is the problem... where the heck is GRUB at??? fixmbr and fixboot (which write a new MBR and bootsector, respectively) did not get rid of it
[08:02] <Dictionary> Mach3: why dont u reinstall both
[08:03] <kaushal> Hi
[08:03] <kaushal> Do Ubuntu have Certifications
[08:03] <kaushal> for Linux professionals working in Ubuntu
[08:03] <Mach3> Dctionary: i did a "soft" reinstall.. as in, no reformat.. but if youre suggesting that i have to reformat my windows drive just to get everything working, then im going to be forced to believe that Linux is the devil and pretty much tell my friends how much it f'd me up
[08:04] <DaSkreech> kaushal: Yup Check out LPI
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !LPI
[08:04] <elkbuntu> kaushal, they've just finished a pilot run for that like a month ago. keep your eyes peeled on linux news places and you'll find out when it goes down
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <coredata> hello
[08:05] <Mach3> Flannel, could you answer a question please?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot
[08:05] <Mach3> flannel is a bot?
[08:05] <zealot> ubotu is
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <Dictionary> Mach3: thats not it.... what happends is windows if installed first likes to try to override everything and if uv updated it the linux booter will get confused... my sudeswtion is if u only want to play around with ubuntu is to download a program that runs it in windows
[08:05] <DaSkreech> :)
[08:06] <alpha255> flannel is a nice
[08:06] <zealot> ubotu, are you a bot?
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <rkyraccoon55> !beryl
[08:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:06] <ph1zzle> hey all
[08:06] <posingaspopular> zealot: yes, bot
[08:06] <zealot> !ubotu
[08:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:07] <achandra> !vista-sucks
[08:07] <zealot> haha
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vista-sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !LPI is The Linux Professional Institute which makes professional Level certifications. You can be Ubuntu !certified through them
[08:07] <Dictionary> Mach3: im sry but that is the option... but i haft to go now
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !vista
[08:07] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[08:07] <achandra> lol
[08:07] <wompus-cat> okay....i found out what was causing my problem
[08:07] <zealot> hahaha
[08:07] <wompus-cat> it was my sound card achandra
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !bug1
[08:07] <achandra> wompus-cat: :)
[08:07] <wompus-cat> but...how to fix it?
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <ph1zzle> I have a question, I am trying to install a perl module (DBD::Pg) that is asking me for pg_config and I can't find it. one doc I found said to try postgresql-server-dev-8.1 but apt-get is reporting this package as broken
[08:08] <Mach3>  Flannel?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> bug 1
[08:08] <inazad> I need some help about wine...
[08:08] <achandra> wompus-cat: stick it in a different slot
[08:08] <Mach3> flannel, could you answer a question please?
[08:08] <wompus-cat> i can't just unplug my sound every time i start linux lol
[08:08] <june_> anyone know what the device's driver option should be for a via card in xorg.conf?
[08:08] <wompus-cat> i did that...still gave the prob achandra
[08:08] <achandra> wompus-cat: damn....
[08:08] <wompus-cat> yah lol
[08:08] <DaSkreech> So anyone know about screensavers?
[08:08] <rirudepanci> hi, when i run winecfg i get this error message: "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b" and the config window does not appear, can anyone help me?
[08:08] <zealot> i like "ubotu" this name
[08:08] <Mach3> You tell me to reinstall GRUB, but i have two hardrives
[08:08] <achandra> wompus-cat: Im wondering..if there is a completely different driver that might fix it..
[08:08] <oljanx> Speaking of wine, has anyone attempted, or perhaps even had success at running Dreamweaver?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[08:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[08:09] <wompus-cat> for my sound card?
[08:09] <june_> rirudepanci: funny, i'm trying to solve that problem myself, what graphics card do you have?
[08:09] <Madpilot> DaSkreech, I think Ubugtu's bug output is disabled in this channel
[08:09] <Flannel> Mach3: what?
[08:09] <wompus-cat> my sound card is an audigy SE
[08:09] <achandra> wompus-cat: that would mean rmmoding the module.. for the driver....insmoding the new one, etc, etc.
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Madpilot: Ah So how do I call on the much needed Bug 1 ?
[08:09] <rirudepanci> june_: i have no idea XD, something crappy, probably intel, this is a notebook
[08:09] <wompus-cat> mew?
[08:09] <wompus-cat> lol
[08:09] <Madpilot> bug #1
[08:09] <ph1zzle> anyone know where I might find pg_config for postgres or where I can look to find it?
[08:10] <Mach3> Flannel: ok, you tell me to reinstall grub.. i just want to make sure you know i have 2 hardrives.. windows on one (well a raid0 actualy) and linux on the other
[08:10] <lightrush> moo
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Madpilot: Why is it here then?
[08:10] <zealot> can the audigy work perfectly in linux/bsd?
[08:10] <Flannel> Mach3: you might've written GRUB to the boot sector of a different harddrive.  But yes, fixMBR will overwrite it (assuming the same drive)
[08:10] <Mach3> Flannel: that link you sent doesnt apply to 2 harddrives
[08:10] <rirudepanci> june_: u?
[08:10] <DaSkreech> !grub
[08:10] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:10] <june_> rirudepanci: system->administration->hardware   or something like that, you should be able to find it
[08:10] <Flannel> Mach3: that link... doesn't care how many harddrives you have
[08:10] <lightrush> !grub
[08:10] <wompus-cat> soooo....
[08:10] <Madpilot> DaSkreech, it is surpressed here. to be honest, I'm not sure why Ubugtu is here either - most of it's options don't work in this channel
[08:10] <wompus-cat> i have no idea achandra
[08:10] <wompus-cat> lol
[08:10] <lightrush> !stats
[08:10] <june_> rirudepanci: i've got a via card, it's driving me nuts
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <DaSkreech> I'll ask Seveas
[08:10] <bmgz> I am running Edgy, I can't get qemu to run the openbsd install cd? It hangs at rootdev=0x1100.... anybody else experience this?
[08:11] <zealot> june_, what card?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> some other day
[08:11] <lightrush> !gnome
[08:11] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:11] <achandra> wompus-cat: hmmm..might want to do a google search to see if anyone else has had an issue with 6.10 and the card..
[08:11] <DaSkreech> right now I wanna sleep
[08:11] <jmazaredo> http://pastebin.com/889093
[08:11] <Flannel> Mach3: what makes you think multiple HDDs makes a difference?
[08:11] <ph1zzle> !pg_config
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Night!
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pg_config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <june_> zealot: it's a via something or other
[08:11] <rirudepanci> june_: yeah 82830 intel
[08:11] <ph1zzle> well I thought that was worth a try
[08:11] <Mach3> Flannel: well, could you just tell me how to get GRUB off of my windows drive?
[08:11] <Flannel> Mach3: by overwriting it with windows MBR
[08:11] <lightrush> rewrite the MBR
[08:12] <lightrush> fdisk /MBR
[08:12] <Mach3> Flannel: i went iinto the recovery console and tried fixMBR  and** fixboot
[08:12] <lightrush> with windows's FDISK
[08:12] <Mach3> Flannel neither worked
[08:12] <ph1zzle> Mach3, you need to reinstall the boot sector, a windows disk will have rescue mode and from rescue mode type fdisk /mbr
[08:12] <june_> rirudepanci: i'm googling that error right now, i'll let you know if i find anything
[08:12] <Flannel> Mach3: I imagine you've got one on one drive,and the other on the other
[08:12] <rirudepanci> june_: thanks a lot :D
[08:12] <lightrush> or u can look for Super WinPE Ultra Boot CD 2004
[08:12] <achandra> or do it the linux way...with the mbr...and pipe it to /dev/null...
[08:13] <Flannel> Mach3: does changing your boot order in your BIOS work?
[08:13] <rirudepanci> june_: thanks a lot :D
[08:13] <rirudepanci> june_: im searchin too
[08:13] <ph1zzle> so no one knows what commands or how I might find what package contains a certain file / prog?
[08:13] <kalorin> what's the deafult for shared memory ?
[08:13] <kalorin> anyone know?
[08:13] <nowhere> I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!
[08:13] <Mach3> Flannel: no, it gets further, but still dies
[08:13] <kalorin> like how big is /dev/shm?
[08:13] <Flannel> ph1zzle: packages.ubuntu.com has a search (scroll down)
[08:13] <june_> rirudepanci: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2039322    the second post says the error can be ignored, but i can't start unreal tournament so i'm not sure if it's really ok
[08:13] <ph1zzle> Flannel, thank you
[08:14] <Flannel> Mach3: then your fixmbr isn't working.
[08:14] <inazad> Its said: "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"
[08:14] <Flannel> ph1zzle: If you want to do it locally, and have the package already installed, there's methods too.
[08:14] <Mach3> Flannel: please read this to see my situation, if you havent already http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7620/
[08:14] <achandra> phlzzle: find / -name blah
[08:14] <macd> 0x4b is such a devious lil visual.
[08:14] <CaptainMorgan> how do I chmod on only directories ?
[08:14] <macd> ph1zzle, from 0x41...
[08:14] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: what are you chmodding?
[08:15] <ph1zzle> hey macd
[08:15] <CaptainMorgan> directories!?
[08:15] <lightrush> CaptainMorgan: chmod -R ...
[08:15] <inazad> macd, how I can fix it ?
[08:15] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: right, which ones
[08:15] <macd> you ween you coulda asked me there ;P
[08:15] <rirudepanci> june_: i see... u surely need to config wine for games...
[08:15] <macd> inazad, I wasnt really looking at your problem, more poking pun at it
[08:15] <ph1zzle> I have been too busy to even look in 0x41
[08:15] <CaptainMorgan> lightrush, Im not looking to make -R calls, which would also affect other elements besides dir's
[08:15] <inazad> macd, ok
[08:15] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, /var/www's
[08:16] <Flannel> Mach3: if GRUB boots, regardless of which HD you boot to, then grub is on both, which means windowsbootloader is on neither.
[08:16] <nowhere> Anyone willing to take a quick look at my question? "I have some sound sync issues with a game, any idea's on a fix? Ubuntu 6.0.6 / nForce2 / Tremulous!"
[08:16] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: Why don't you just add your users to the www-data group?
[08:16] <Mach3> Flannel: meaning i need to do what?    im confused, i cant boot windows, and im not sure what to do
[08:16] <macd> Mach3, grub seems to be on both your drives, windows bootloader on one/none
[08:16] <Flannel> Mach3: you need to use windows disks to put windows' bootloader back on the MBR of your HDs
[08:16] <bmgz> I am running Edgy, I can't get qemu to run the openbsd install cd? It hangs at rootdev=0x1100.... anybody else experience this?
[08:17] <rirudepanci> june_: does this help at all? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=162230
[08:17] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, because I have a boatload of .html's which are executable and shouldn't, besides other file types
[08:17] <macd> Mach3, you need to reinstall the windows bootloader, then run grub to fix grub.
[08:17] <wompus-cat> lol
[08:17] <CaptainMorgan> I recall.. there was a -d switch. no?
[08:17] <liberthy> salut tlm
[08:17] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: oh, you want to chmod the files, not the directory.  chmod -R is recursive, and just make them a-x
[08:17] <wompus-cat> i can't find any info...it's like i'm the only one havin the prob
[08:17] <Mach3> any way to install the windows bootloader other than fixMDR or fixboot from the recovery console on the windows cd?
[08:17] <june_> rirudepanci: not exactly for me, but it should be good for you
[08:18] <Flannel> Mach3: not that I'm aware of.  You might ask in ##windows
[08:18] <liberthy> comment aller sur un chat ubuntu en francais svp
[08:18] <Flannel> !fr | liberthy
[08:18] <ubotu> liberthy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:18] <HymnToLife> !fr
[08:18] <rirudepanci> june_: whats your card?
[08:18] <lightrush> Mach3: 1. Disconnect the drive that u DO NOT want to modify 2. Find something to boot Windows Command Prompt (usually 98 one) diskette or CD. 3. run "fdisk /MBR"
[08:18] <CaptainMorgan> I realize -R is recursive, but if I do chmod go-wx rootdir/ -R that will include rootdir's sub dir's permissions.. ?
[08:18] <june_> a via something, it's a piece, plus the drivers are shoddy
[08:18] <liberthy> merci ubotu
[08:18] <achandra> wompus-cat: Interesting problem though..somehow there is a conflict of sorts...I wonder if it is a driver issue.
[08:18] <HymnToLife> CaptainMorgan, yes, that's the whole point of recursiveness
[08:18] <Mach3> i will try fdisk /MBR    thanks
[08:19] <macd> CaptainMorgan, that will do everything rootdir/*/*
[08:19] <wompus-cat> je parlez en fraincais en peu liberthy....essayer #ubuntu-fr
[08:19] <unop> Mach3,  if you install the windows bootloader you will ruin grub .. the idea with dual-booting is that you use grub .. the windows mbr is hopeless with dual booting
[08:19] <wompus-cat> yeah...it's real weird achandra
[08:19] <CaptainMorgan> nevermind, my point is not being made clear
[08:19] <wompus-cat> it works fine in ubuntu 6.06
[08:19] <macd> unop, he still needs to reinstall the windows bootloader, then grub.
[08:19] <wompus-cat> mmmm
[08:20] <unop> macd, what?? no no no .. just grub will do .. grub will overwrite the windows bootloader
[08:20] <achandra> wompus-cat: might want to see whether a similar driver or a new driver will work??
[08:20] <wompus-cat> gotta have cheese with my whine :p
[08:20] <wompus-cat> for my sound card?
[08:20] <Mach3> unop: i would LOVE for grub to work. but no one can help me fix it.   im just frustrated b/c I cant get back to my files in windows, and grub isnt working
[08:20] <achandra> yep
[08:20] <wompus-cat> i dunno where to look....the soundblaster site dun have one
[08:20] <HymnToLife> Mach3, what's your problem with GRUB ?
[08:20] <Flannel> Mach3: If you're using the menu.lst you pasted earlier, there's NO windows option on it.
[08:20] <macd> unop, windows cant boot, as in it doesnt even know it exists, grub cant fix a windows boot issue, he needs to reinstall the windows bootloader, then grub to be able to boot both.
[08:20] <unop> Mach3,  you say raid0 here?? is this via a raid controller or software raid?
[08:20] <Mach3> software/motherboard
[08:21] <unop> macd,  grub can boot windows
[08:21] <wompus-cat> i have a soundblaster audigy SE achandra
[08:21] <vik> which is the best package to get ntfs running on ubuntu: ntfs-3g or libntfs8 ?
[08:21] <macd> unop, not when its not the first OS on the drive, at least thats the impression Im under
[08:21] <achandra> wompus-cat: one sec
[08:21] <Flannel> vik: you mean ntfs writing?  (since linux can read NTFS no problem)
[08:21] <wompus-cat> okie
[08:21] <vik> Flannel: yep
[08:21] <Flannel> macd: yes it can.  You just have to do some tweaking to fool windows.
[08:22] <macd> hiding it from its own stupididty prolly isnt the best idea ;P
[08:22] <unop> macd,  he's using a seperate drive for linux -- windows is installed on the raid array
[08:22] <cmd_> Hello everybody
[08:22] <unop> macd,  have you attempted to add an entry for windows in your grub's menu.lst?
[08:22] <cmd_> This there somebody?
[08:22] <macd> unop, I dont dual boot anything
[08:22] <Flannel> vik: ntfs-3g just went out of beta, version 1.0, as for it's stability...
[08:23] <Mach3> Flannel: yes, someone pointed that out.. i made an entry (not knowing what i was doing at all mind you)  when i tried hd0,0  it said"invalid or unsupported executable format" , and when i tried hd1,0  it just said "Starting up...." and sat there
[08:23] <ryan_> how much disk space does a default ubuntu install take?
[08:23] <unop> err, sorry macd .. mach3 ^^
[08:23] <Flannel> ryan_: couple of gig
[08:23] <unop> the side effects of tab-complete :)
[08:23] <ryan_> I need a very specific number, a ballpark won't really do
[08:23] <stooges> i'm fairly new on linux.. i just downloaded firefox and already extracted it.  now how do i run the installation, i can't seem to find it.
[08:23] <ryan_> within 10MB would be best
[08:23] <vik> libntfs8 is in the 'official' ubuntu repos, but I've heard good things about ntfs-3g
[08:23] <Mach3> unop, see my message to Flannel
[08:23] <wompus-cat> 10MB?
[08:24] <wompus-cat> or...GB?
[08:24] <ryan_> wompus-cat, I mean an estimate within 10MB
[08:24] <ryan_> stooges,  firefox is installed on ubuntu by default, why are you trying to install it again?
[08:24] <wompus-cat> 10MB isn't plausible for an operating system i wouldn't think
[08:24] <pavs> my usb external HD is read only after pluging it in. how do i make it read and write i want to be able to delete files.
[08:24] <ryan_> ffs wompus-cat I mean I need an estimate with +/- 10MB accuracy
[08:24] <stooges> well there seems to be some error on firefox with program so i am updating from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:24] <macd> pavs, is your external harddrive ntfs?
[08:24] <unop> Mach3,  ok, there's a lot of ambiguity here .. whats the current setup now? one drive attached with ubuntu installed  on it, right?
[08:24] <wompus-cat> ffs ryan_ u didn't say that
[08:25] <ryan_> ffs wompus-cat it should have been obvious when I said "an estimate within 10MB"
[08:25] <Mach3> unop, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7620/
[08:25] <achandra> wompus-cat: try this - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_configure_sound_to_work_properly_in_GNOME
[08:25] <wompus-cat> no......i assumed it was a typo
[08:25] <stooges> i mean on the way every time i close it.. then later i reopen it keeps on saying the firefox previously crashed, and want to restore again.
[08:25] <unop> Mach3,  aye, i am reading it
[08:25] <pavs> macd yes
[08:25] <Flannel> ryan_: 3GB is what the official site says, for a desktop system.  But if you need to skimp on space, grab the alternate CD, install the "server" option, then install whatever lightweight WM you want.  Xubuntu requires only 1.5GB
[08:26] <stooges> so want to learn how to reinstall firefox with the latest version.
[08:26] <wompus-cat> saying within 10mb accuracy would have made more sense
[08:26] <Flannel> achandra: don't use ubuntuguide
[08:26] <Flannel> !firefox | stooges
[08:26] <ubotu> stooges: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:26] <achandra> Flannel: why??
[08:26] <macd> pavs, you need to install NTFS write capibility, its covered fairly well here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[08:26] <jmazaredo> is there a way to make my xserver reinstalled with default configuration
[08:27] <ryan_> thank you Flannel
[08:27] <wompus-cat> the thing is tho achandra, that it works fine if i'm not using the nvidia driver
[08:27] <pavs> macd tnx
[08:27] <Flannel> achandra: because some stuff it recommends is unsafe.  And almost all of the stuff it walks you through is available on the wiki (help.ubuntu.com) anyway (in safe methods)
[08:27] <cmd_> l#privmsg
[08:27] <macd> and supported none the less.
[08:27] <cmd_> cmd_ Hello everybody
[08:27] <cmd_> cmd_ This there somebody?
[08:27] <cmd_> macd hiding it from its own stupididty prolly isnt the best idea ;P
[08:27] <cmd_> * bmgz<EMAIL_ADDRESS> #ubuntu ("Ex-Chat")
[08:28] <achandra> Flannel: any help for wompus-cat and his nvidia issue/audigy se ...my google search yielded only the ubuntu guide entry
[08:28] <wompus-cat> her hehe
[08:28] <achandra> her..lol
[08:28] <achandra> woops
[08:28] <achandra> my bad
[08:28] <wompus-cat> :p
[08:28] <cmd_> Are here somebody from China?
[08:28] <zealot> no?
[08:28] <achandra> there goes the possibility of a date....lol
[08:29] <stooges> okay thanks
[08:29] <wompus-cat> yeah...the stigma that girls can't be lazy geeks too...
[08:29] <wompus-cat> hehehe
[08:29] <wompus-cat> lo
[08:29] <wompus-cat> i unno
[08:29] <wompus-cat> >.>
[08:29] <Joe2> hiya people
[08:29] <wompus-cat> <.<
[08:29] <wompus-cat> i am bi :P
[08:29] <wompus-cat> lol
[08:29] <Flannel> !offtopic