[01:55] <mrmist> seems VLC isn't using libdvdcss2 at all, but libdvdread
[01:55] <mrmist> maybe that's the problem....
[01:55] <mrmist> I get all sorts of errors
[01:55] <mrmist> I also get there:
[01:56] <mrmist> these:
[01:56] <mrmist> [00000271]  main input error: demux doesn't like DEMUX_GET_TIME
[02:11] <at1as> Anyone got a clue about making POSTFIX and CYRUS use SASLAUTHD?
[02:27] <dipnlik> hi all. is kopete integrated with katapult?
[02:28] <apokryphos> dipnlik: nope
[02:28] <apokryphos> how exactly would it integrate?
[02:28] <apokryphos> hm, to talk to contacts, I guess
[02:28] <dipnlik> apokryphos: yes
[02:29] <apokryphos> dipnlik: report that as a wish; I presume it's quite easy to do via DCOP.
[02:29] <dipnlik> apokryphos: where? bugs.kde.org ?
[02:30] <apokryphos> dipnlik: yup
[02:30] <dipnlik> ok, thanks
[02:31] <twosouls82> where do I disable the transparency of the menus in kde? I can't find it (for the x time) :s
[02:31] <dipnlik> apokryphos: guess when i really start using kubuntu at home, i'll ask a lot of things :P
[02:31] <apokryphos> dipnlik: not a problem -- we're here to help :)
[02:33] <lillith> does anybody know if I can get a palmOS to sync .doc files?
[02:33] <apokryphos> twosouls82: hm, proving harder to find for me now too :P
[02:33] <twosouls82> hahaha lol
[02:34] <twosouls82> 2.5 years now :D
[02:34] <dipnlik> apokryphos: do you use katapult extensively?
[02:34] <apokryphos> not extensively, but reasonably often. It's still not perfect yet :P
[02:35] <dipnlik> apokryphos: i like the idea, and saw quicksilver on a friend's iBook. really hope katapult gets better and better
[02:35] <dipnlik> apokryphos: is it possible to open an url directly or do i have to open konqueror first?
[02:36] <apokryphos> dipnlik: that's not implemented yet, unfortunately. Even though alt+f2 does it fine :?
[02:36] <apokryphos> :/
[02:36] <twosouls82> apokryphos: Its called "Rubberband effect" in Kcontrol :P
[02:36] <apokryphos> twosouls82: nah, rubberband effect is the mouse-selection coloured-in thing
[02:37] <twosouls82> apokryphos: It fixed my menus being tranculant though
[02:37] <apokryphos> twosouls82: under which section?
[02:38] <twosouls82> apokryphos:  Appereance and Themes -> Style -> Effects -> Rubberband Effect
[02:38] <apokryphos> twosouls82: argh, of course. Menu effect: make translucent.
[02:38] <twosouls82> what is katapult, I use kde for 2.5 year and have never heard of it, nor used it
[02:39] <apokryphos> dipnlik: it's not pluginable yet, I don't think.
[02:39] <apokryphos> !katapult
[02:39] <ubotu> it has been said that katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[02:39] <twosouls82> apokryphos: it was the "Rubberband",,, menu effect was not set top "Make Transculent"
[02:39] <twosouls82> top = to
[02:40] <apokryphos> twosouls82: try it, and deselect the other thing. It'll work.
[02:40] <twosouls82> apokryphos: it already worked
[02:40] <twosouls82> :)
[02:40] <twosouls82> without it
[02:40] <twosouls82> :P
[02:40] <apokryphos> either way, I guess
[02:41] <twosouls82> two
[02:41] <twosouls82> too
[02:41] <twosouls82> lol
[02:44] <dipnlik> apokryphos: i think it is. someone commented about using katapult to eval expressions, this doesn't work here
[02:45] <apokryphos> eval expressions?
[02:45] <dipnlik> like typing alt space, 3+2 enter
[02:46] <apokryphos> calculator, yup -- that should work
[02:46] <twosouls82> apokryphos: do you know where to set the language for the entire profile?
[02:46] <apokryphos> dipnlik: alt+space then ctrl+c and configure katapult
[02:47] <apokryphos> see if you have calculator listed there
[02:47] <apokryphos> twosouls82: control center?
[02:47] <twosouls82> did it, but some apps ignor it
[02:47] <twosouls82> ignore*
[02:47] <apokryphos> it'll only work for kde applications, I presume
[02:48] <dipnlik> apokryphos: didn't know how to configure katapult
[02:48] <twosouls82> indeed, how to set it for the rest... I did it once, can't recall though
[02:48] <dipnlik> will take a look now
[02:48] <Fiscal> bom dia a todos!
[02:48] <apokryphos> twosouls82: I presume you'd have to install the locales and do something like dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:49] <apokryphos> kind of a guess, though -- I've never done it myself
[02:49] <dipnlik> Fiscal: good day. english only. /join #ubuntu-br for portuguese chat
[02:49] <apokryphos> !locales
[02:49] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos
[02:49] <Fiscal> ok
[02:49] <Fiscal> ty
[02:49] <dipnlik> Fiscal: de nada :)
[02:50] <apokryphos> ubotu: locales is at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf
[02:50] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:50] <apokryphos> twosouls82: there
[02:50] <twosouls82> apokryphos: thanks mate :)
[02:51] <dipnlik> apokryphos: well, i don't have a calculator there
[02:51] <apokryphos> dipnlik: katapult --version gives?
[02:51] <apokryphos> perhaps the breezy version didn't include it
[02:52] <dipnlik> apokryphos: probably not. and my katapult is 0.2
[02:52] <apokryphos> !info katapult
[02:52] <ubotu> katapult: (item launcher for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.2-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 135 kB, Installed size: 1012 kB
[02:53] <apokryphos> ah, there's an update in breezy-backports
[02:53] <twosouls82> apokryphos: should I let debconf do the managing of the locale configuration files?
[02:53] <apokryphos> sure
[02:54] <twosouls82> and replace the existing?
[02:54] <apokryphos> the instructions there should do it, yes
[02:55] <apokryphos> dipnlik: or you can just manually download+install http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/k/katapult/katapult_0.3.1-0ubuntu2~breezy1_i386.deb
[03:05] <dipnlik> apokryphos: how do i install it? just sudo dpkg -i file.deb ?
[03:05] <apokryphos> yup
[03:09] <apokryphos> Riddell: is kubuntu going to be concentrating more on kerry now, rather than kat?
[03:11] <Riddell> apokryphos: we're not concentrating on either
[03:13] <OdyX> Riddell: the fact is kerry depends on quasi whole gnome
[03:14] <Riddell> OdyX: I expect the beagle backend can be split out.  it's still depend on mono
[03:16] <OdyX> Riddell: I hope too...
[03:16] <OdyX> the problem is KDE doesn't want to depend on mono...
[03:18] <ganymed> hallo
[03:22] <ganymed> this morning i opened kontact and it crashed. i deleted my kmailrc and it works again. however, my profile is lost. i cannot copy the old file in there again as it keeps crashing, neither can i copy contents of the old file in the new - it just ignores the content. any ideas?
[03:23] <nutshell42> ganymed: you could try only copying the first 50% of the old file to a empty new one
[03:23] <nutshell42> look whether it crashes
[03:23] <nutshell42> if it does the problem's in the first half
[03:23] <nutshell42> else it's in the second
[03:23] <nutshell42> rinse, repeat
[03:23] <ganymed> i tried this
[03:23] <ganymed> to figure out what causes the crash
[03:23] <ganymed> but it jsut ignores the account entries
[03:24] <nutshell42> and if you go by sections?
[03:25] <ganymed> no, doesnt work
[03:25] <ganymed> it this way that after i close kontact it reverts the kmailrc to its old state, hence deletes ! all the account stuf i inserted
[03:26] <nutshell42> no, I meant you should start with an empty kmailrc and try what doesn't crash kmail
[03:27] <nutshell42> oh and I would try kmail seperatly from kontact just to reduce the amount of stuff that could go wrong
[03:27] <nutshell42> then take an empty kmailrc
[03:27] <nutshell42> copy some parts of the old kmailrc into the new one
[03:27] <nutshell42> and then try to start kmail
[03:27] <ganymed> well, i tried with NO kmailrc and it creates one with some entries from some other files (i guess the mail folder)
[03:28] <ganymed> i'll try this
[03:28] <nutshell42> it could be some stuff from an old version
[03:28] <nutshell42> I had a konquerorrc once who had a color setting that apparently no longer existed
[03:28] <nutshell42> and it screwed up everything
[03:29] <nutshell42> found the error that way, hope it works for you too =)
[03:29] <ganymed> but how do i get my config stuff back in there... why doesn't it accept this stuff but throws it out all the time?
[03:30] <nutshell42> I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I just looked at my kmailrc
[03:30] <nutshell42> and for instance it has a setting in the [general]  section
[03:30] <nutshell42> where it says how many [account]  sections have to be in the file
[03:31] <ganymed> i mean the following: i have no kmailrc or an empty one and start kontact: it creates one or fills empty one
[03:31] <ganymed> aah
[03:31] <nutshell42> it creates a default
[03:31] <nutshell42> but if there is already a file
[03:31] <nutshell42> it should only fill in missing values
[03:32] <nutshell42> if you set accounts=0 then copy only the [general]  section
[03:32] <nutshell42> and other sections that are related to ui stuff into the new one it should work
[03:32] <nutshell42> i think
[03:32] <nutshell42> oh and there's a transports=X too
[03:32] <nutshell42> as well as for filters
[03:34] <ganymed> ok, it IS the defaults section
[03:34] <ganymed> shit, doesn't have to be
[03:34] <nutshell42> if it is general
[03:34] <nutshell42> then delete the kmailrc
[03:34] <nutshell42> start kmail
[03:34] <nutshell42> let it create a new one
[03:34] <nutshell42> open that one
[03:34] <ganymed> if it refers to some other that contains an error
[03:34] <nutshell42> adjust the accounts, transport, filters values
[03:35] <nutshell42> and then copy those sections from the old one and remove those created by kmail
[03:35] <nutshell42> try a kmailrc with just the general section
[03:35] <nutshell42> then you'll know
[03:38] <ganymed> can you explain this to me: in the new one the mail dir is $HOME/mail (which i already have). in the new one it is $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail?
[03:38] <nutshell42> they moved the dir
[03:38] <nutshell42> but it's a setting in the kmailrc
[03:38] <nutshell42> folders=
[03:38] <nutshell42> but good idea
[03:38] <nutshell42> could be a problem with one of your mbox files
[03:39] <nutshell42> try changing the dir in the old file
[03:39] <nutshell42> and see if that helps
[03:40] <ganymed> it IS a problem with one of the ffiels
[03:40] <ganymed> files
[03:41] <ganymed> i guess it got corrupted
[03:41] <dipnlik> are there any good alternatives to amarok? i particularly hate the "score" system.
[03:41] <nutshell42> dipnlik: ignore the score
[03:41] <nutshell42> otherwise you might like juk, xmms or rhythmbox
[03:42] <nutshell42> ganymed: try to import it in another mailclient (thunderbird perhaps, evolution, etc) and then reimport it in kmail
[03:42] <nutshell42> oh and switch to maildir, I had no probs with corrupted archives since I use maildir instead of mbox for my mails =)
[03:42] <ganymed> well, i just copied the files... it has all the accounts and mails, but not the folders
[03:42] <ganymed> thx for the hint
[03:42] <nutshell42> if that works, even better =)
[03:42] <nutshell42> np
[03:43] <dipnlik> nutshell42: no xmms, i want a "media manager" like itunes. will try juk and rhythmbox
[03:43] <nutshell42> dipnlik: ais, just ignore the score
[03:43] <nutshell42> remove the column from the playlist
[03:43] <ganymed> nutshell42: can i change this afterwards (the folder format)?
[03:43] <nutshell42> and the context sidebar is just an html file =)
[03:44] <nutshell42> ganymed: I think you can't convert them directly
[03:44] <nutshell42> but you can set the default format for new folders
[03:44] <nutshell42> create a new folder
[03:44] <nutshell42> copy all mails from the old to the new
[03:44] <nutshell42> and then remove the old one
[03:44] <dipnlik> nutshell42: but i want to rate good songs and not so good songs, for weighted random play for example...
[03:45] <nutshell42> hmm, there was an xmms plugin that did that better than anything else
[03:45] <nutshell42> so perhaps you should try xmms even if it's not a media manager
[03:47] <nutshell42> but unfortunatly I can't remember what it was called
[03:47] <nutshell42> and I no longer have it installed
[03:48] <dipnlik> nutshell42: quite sad. i'm planning to install kubuntu at home, but amaroK really disappointed me now :(
[03:49] <ganymed> nutshell42: i added "transport=2" to my general section and now i see all the custom folder
[03:49] <ganymed> dipnlik: why does it disappoint you?
[03:49] <nutshell42> ganymed: strange, I don't know how that should influence folders =)
[03:50] <ganymed> nutshell: me, too. maybe i just had to restart kmail
[03:50] <dipnlik> ganymed: no rating system, crappy score system
[03:50] <OdyX> Hey guys... I cannot access to my TTY's (black screen). How could I solve that ?
[03:50] <nutshell42> dipnlik: you can rate by adjusting the score value
[03:51] <nutshell42> it's just not very convenient (sp?)
[03:51] <dipnlik> nutshell42: WAY crappy.
[03:52] <dipnlik> nutshell42: i just played a song for 2 seconds by accident, stopped it, it got a rating of 25
[03:52] <dipnlik> set a score of 100 to another one, played it, at the end it was 75
[03:53] <ganymed> dipnlik: but doesn't this depend on the time you use amarok. the rating system is just valuable after you have used it some time
[03:53] <nutshell42> dipnlik: it gets better over time, the first rating is not representative
[03:53] <nutshell42> but you could go to #amarok on this net and ask whether there's a script that does what you want
[03:53] <ganymed> nutshell42: but why is it downloading all my email again... i have over 3000 in my folder now...
[03:53] <nutshell42> if there is tell me, because I'm no fan of amarok's rating system either
[03:54] <nutshell42> ganymed: imap?
[03:54] <ganymed> no, pop3
[03:54] <dipnlik> ganymed: don't know. anyway, i want a rating system, not a score system
[03:54] <ganymed> nutshell42: first of all, i wanna thank you
[03:55] <dipnlik> nutshell42: i see. will ask there. or use gmusicbrowser
[03:55] <ganymed> well, i don't even know the difference :)
[03:55] <nutshell42> hmm, did you copy only parts of the old config?
[03:55] <dipnlik> nutshell42: unfortunately it is gtk and is very ugly here on kde
[03:55] <DjDarkman> hy ,I get anoying problems ,mostly from arts ,I get very oftem sound device is in use errors from xmms ,what should I do?
[03:55] <nutshell42> if so perhaps there's info about what it already d/led in the other ones
[03:55] <Xemanth^^> is there easy way to update to dapper flight from breezy ?
[03:55] <nutshell42> dipnlik: open kcontrol, there's a setting where you can apply your qt theme to gtk
[03:55] <ganymed> all the accounts and changed the general section. and i copied all the stuff from the old folder to $HOME/Mail
[03:55] <dipnlik> ganymed: amarok's score is automatic
[03:56] <nutshell42> not perfekt, but acceptable =)
[03:56] <nutshell42> Xemanth^^: open /etc/apt/sources.list, search&replace breezy with dapper and use apt-get upgrade. I don't know whether it's perfect
[03:57] <nutshell42> dipnlik: and that's a good thing, imho. I hate the ratings system of itunes and its clones even more than amarok's =P
[03:57] <dipnlik> ganymed: in a rating system you apply stars to each song, then you can make things like weighted random, or playlists with only good songs (rated 3 stars or more), things like that
[03:57] <DjDarkman> is there some way to fix my sound system problems?
[03:57] <dipnlik> nutshell42: well, the system you hate is the one i love :)
[03:57] <nutshell42> you can do weighted random with an automatic system too
[03:57] <nutshell42> xmms' did it
[03:58] <dipnlik> nutshell42: i don't see how this automatic system can help, but anyway, guess i'll try that eventually
[03:58] <nutshell42> ais, ask the #amarok guys whether there's a script for what you want, I'd be interested if there were
[03:58] <nutshell42> dipnlik: the idea is that if you play a whole song until the finish you must like it atm
[03:58] <dipnlik> okie
[03:59] <nutshell42> and if you skip you don't like it
[03:59] <nutshell42> but unfortunatly amarok's system isn't all that good
[03:59] <nutshell42> especially because it's limited to values 1-100
[03:59] <nutshell42> DjDarkman: yes, most likely
[03:59] <nutshell42> =)
[03:59] <DjDarkman> nutshell42: how can i fix it?
[04:00] <ganymed> nutshell42: i am going crazy... 4600 mails, how shall i sort them out...........
[04:00] <nutshell42> did you describe your problem somewhere?
[04:00] <nutshell42> I missed it
[04:01] <nutshell42> ganymed: you mean it's d/ling them or they're just all in one folder?
[04:01] <DjDarkman> [16:55]  <DjDarkman> hy ,I get anoying problems ,mostly from arts ,I get very oftem sound device is in use errors from xmms ,what should I do?
[04:01] <ganymed> nutshell42: i just recognized... they are downloaded at least 6 times
[04:01] <nutshell42> DjDarkman: there's an arts output plugin for xmms
[04:01] <nutshell42> use that
[04:01] <ganymed> what is going on there?
[04:01] <nutshell42> or use alsa instead of oss for both arts and xmms
[04:02] <nutshell42> should help
[04:02] <DjDarkman> nutshell42: got same error with that
[04:02] <DjDarkman> and i ussually use alsa
[04:02] <nutshell42> ganymed: cancel the d/l from kmail
[04:02] <nutshell42> check whether the mbox files are still in order
[04:02] <dipnlik> nutshell42: i got that part :) but i don't want it guessing what i like and what i don't. specially if it overrides the score i put manually on a song
[04:02] <nutshell42> edit your accounts so it doesn't automatically d/l them
[04:03] <nutshell42> and then try to import the mbox files again before checking for new mail
[04:03] <nutshell42> sry, too many discussions at once
[04:03] <nutshell42> my replies have a bad lag, I know
[04:04] <nutshell42> DjDarkman: if you use the arts output plugin for xmms, then close down xmms, make sure arts can play sound once again and then launch xmms again it will work
[04:04] <nutshell42> the problem is that your sound card doesn't do hardware mixing of more than one audiostream
[04:04] <nutshell42> so you need some kind of software mixing
[04:04] <nutshell42> arts does that
[04:05] <nutshell42> but alsa generally does so too and with less cpu-load and lag
[04:05] <DjDarkman> nutshell42: don`t tell me that my cmedia soundcard doesn`t know hardware mixing
[04:05] <nutshell42> so if you explicitly set arts and xmms to alsa it *should* work but perhaps doesn't
[04:06] <xst> How can I prevent sound applications from blocking each other? If e.g. amarok is playing a tune and KDE plays a sound in order to catch my attention when some dialog is shown, the KDE sound is queued and played whenever amarok finishes the tune. Way too late. Furthermore amarok is now interruptet because of some busy sound device. Very user un-friendly. Can I somehow make the sound applications *share* the device (mixing their s
[04:06] <xst> ounds)?
[04:06] <nutshell42> DjDarkman: could be that the sound driver doesn't if the card does, at least I think that should be possible
[04:07] <DjDarkman> nutshell42: what is arts and what is alsa ,because I get confused with these?and how can i make arts use alsa?
[04:07] <nutshell42> alsa is the linux sound driver framework
[04:08] <nutshell42> arts is kde's audio server
[04:08] <DjDarkman> so nutshell42 youre saying that is should get a linux driver for my soundcard?
[04:08] <nutshell42> alt+f2
[04:08] <nutshell42> kcontrol
[04:08] <nutshell42> sound&multimedia
[04:08] <nutshell42> sound system
[04:08] <nutshell42> then go to the hardware tag
[04:08] <nutshell42> *hardware tab
[04:09] <DjDarkman> i already set that to alsa
[04:09] <nutshell42> the first setting is the audio device dropdown
[04:09] <nutshell42> did you restart arts after that?
[04:09] <DjDarkman> i restarted my system a milion times after i set that
[04:10] <nutshell42> hmm, it should work I think because it does here, I know that kind of stuff was a major problem a few years ago but it's worked out of the box for me since at least 1 and a half
[04:10] <nutshell42> do you have mplayer installed?
[04:11] <nutshell42> if so, set mplayer to use alsa and try to start two at once, mplayer often has useful debug output
[04:11] <jossver> I need to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, but it gives errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529 how do I solve this please?
[04:12] <DjDarkman> nutshell42: i have mplayer and played music on xmms and played something else on mplayer and it worked
[04:12] <DjDarkman> but when it came to making a call on skype or cedega ,i had to shut down everything nutshell42
[04:12] <nutshell42> hmm
[04:12] <jossver> DjDarman: Why are you using skype in cedega? skype is for linux too
[04:13] <nutshell42> if both mplayer and xmms are set to alsa, your sound works fine
[04:13] <CellarDoor> !k9copy
[04:13] <ubotu> hmm... k9copy is A good alternative to running DVDShrink with wine is k9copy http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/index.php which is available for breezy is this repository deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib non-free
[04:13] <nutshell42> but cedega and skype apparently use oss
[04:13] <DjDarkman> jossver: you missunderstood be
[04:13] <tristanmike> ,,,,cedega can install programs? I thought is was just for games
[04:13] <nutshell42> I don't know why arts doesn'T work either
[04:13] <jossver> tristanmike: but to play games, you need to install them ... with cedega
[04:13] <nutshell42> but couldn't you set cedega to alsa?
[04:14] <DjDarkman> cedega can use alsa ,but it runs even worst with alsa and still i can`t play music
[04:14] <tristanmike> jossver: I know that, but I didn't think cedega accepted "programs" like skype or say photoshop
[04:14] <jossver> tristanmike: inside programs and games, there's not really a lot of difference (except for the libraries needed)
[04:15] <DjDarkman> jossver: i use skpye for linux and cedega seperatly
[04:15] <jossver> oh ok
[04:15] <jossver> I need to uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, but it gives errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529 how do I solve this please?
[04:15] <DjDarkman> but my problem is that if i use one of them i can`t use any other app running sound
[04:15] <tristanmike> jossver: yeah, but it's something I didn't know, Cedega never talks about the programs you can run inside it, that's why it's news to me
[04:16] <ganymed_> hallo again
[04:16] <ganymed_> nutshell42: are you still here?
[04:16] <nutshell42> yes
[04:16] <ganymed_> the mails killed my system
[04:16] <nutshell42> DjDarkman: google for dmix setup
[04:16] <nutshell42> it's a kernel stream mixer
[04:16] <ganymed_> everytime i click on fetch mails it fetches old mails again
[04:16] <nutshell42> but it's non-trivial iirc
[04:16] <DjDarkman> ok nutshell42 10x i hope it will help
[04:17] <nutshell42> but it worked with oss iirc
[04:17] <nutshell42> ganymed_: just once or every time?
[04:18] <ganymed_> every time i click on it
[04:18] <ganymed_> that's how i got almost 5000 mails
[04:20] <nutshell42> once again move your old kmailrc, let kmail create a new one and try with an account that doesn't have too many mails in it if it still happens
[04:23] <jossver> cedega tells me: Could not load graphics driver 'x11drv' - what should I do?
[04:25] <ganymed_> nutshell42: you said i should use maildir, right?
[04:25] <nutshell42> ganymed_: yep
[04:26] <MenZa> I currently have Ubuntu with Gnome installed (Dapper), but I wish to download KDE - how? Same command as with Breezy, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop? And will it download KDE 3.5?
[04:27] <Chryseus> yes
[04:27] <nutshell42> MenZa: most likely
[04:27] <Hobbsee> !kde 3.5.1
[04:27] <ubotu> it has been said that kde 3.5.1 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[04:27] <nutshell42> just try it
[04:27] <tristanmike> yes, but again, it's testing
[04:27] <Hobbsee> add that repo before you install kubuntu-desktop
[04:27] <nutshell42> if it doesn't, press ctrl+c while it downloads the packages
[04:27] <Hobbsee> otherwise it'll download  twice...
[04:27] <MenZa> Thanks Hobbsee.
[04:28] <Hobbsee> night all...
[04:28] <MenZa> Night.
[04:28] <CellarDoor> kde 3.5.2 is out
[04:29] <Chryseus>  and he's in dapper he doesn't need that repository
[04:29] <jossver> cedega tells me: Could not load graphics driver 'x11drv' - what should I do?
[04:30] <MenZa> Fantastic, downloading now :)
[04:30] <MenZa> Chryseus: I didn't? Oh, right. Says it at the bottom here.
[04:30] <MenZa> It seems that it's getting it from another repo though, not the one I just added.
[04:31] <MenZa> Chryseus: do the Dapper repositories contain 3.5.2 or *.*.1?
[04:31] <Chryseus> 3.5.2
[04:31] <CellarDoor> jossver: what are you trying to run ?
[04:31] <nutshell42> MenZa: important disclaimer: yes you *can* reduce the icon size in konqueror (unless they already changed the default size for dapper)
[04:32] <nutshell42> everyone I've shown some kubuntu default screenshots asked that =)
[04:32] <MenZa> nutshell42: Err, okay. :)
[04:33] <MenZa> And it seems that it's 3.5.2 here; it says it everywhere... 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 :o
[04:33] <jossver> CellarDoor: Just a basic installation program that doesn't need anything extras
[04:33] <jossver> CellarDoor: any*
[04:33] <MenZa> Oh yeah, how do I open a new connection in irssi without disconnecting from the other one?
[04:34] <Chryseus>  /connect server
[04:34] <MenZa> Chryseus: ..doesn't that close the current connection?
[04:34] <Chryseus> haven't closed for me :/
[04:34] <Chryseus> but /server does
[04:35] <MenZa> Chryseus: thanks.
[04:35] <ganymed_> nutshell42: i don't understand it. i have created a new kmailrc and just copied the account sections and changed the account entry in the general section. it keeps doing this shit
[04:35] <MenZa> Oh yes, and how do I change between them?
[04:35] <Chryseus> ctrl-x
[04:35] <ganymed_> nutshell42: and creating a new account results in the same problem
[04:36] <nutshell42> ganymed_: try to use the default kmailrc and create a new account with the gui instead of copying over the account entries
[04:37] <nutshell42> just for one account
[04:37] <nutshell42> unfortunatly I have no idea how kmail keeps track which mails it's already d/led and which to d/l
[04:38] <nutshell42> but if it doesn't work with a new kmailrc and a new maildir then something very strange is going on =/
[04:41] <rohan> hi all
[04:41] <rohan> Riddell: ping
[04:41] <jossver> how to force uninstall a package?
[04:42] <ganymed_> nutshell42: sth. very strange is going on!
[04:42] <rohan> can someone check whether this problem occurs in kubuntu with kde 3.5.2
[04:42] <rohan> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807
[04:43] <nutshell42> ganymed_: sry if I treat you like an idiot, but just to be certain:
[04:43] <nutshell42> move the old kmailrc to some new location
[04:43] <nutshell42> move your mail folder to some other location
[04:43] <nutshell42> let kmail create a new config file and a new mail-folder
[04:44] <nutshell42> use the settings menu to set up one of your accounts
[04:44] <nutshell42> and then look whether that's still happing
[04:44] <Riddell> rohan: hi
[04:44] <nutshell42> if it is I don't see how it should be a config problem because nothing of your local settings is still there
[04:44] <rohan> Riddell: hi
[04:45] <rohan> Riddell: can you plese point me to the patch that fixes this bug in kubuntu packages ?
[04:45] <rohan> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119167
[04:45] <nutshell42> you could ask in the #kde channel if someone knows more about kmail or probably even better try the kmail mailing-list
[04:45] <rohan> Riddell: that problem is fixed in kubuntu kde since 3.4.x
[04:45] <rohan> and not fixed in upstream since that time, till kde 3.5.2, Riddell
[04:45] <nutshell42> that will take more time for an answer to arrive but chances are whoever gives you an answer knows more than I do =P
[04:45] <km0ti0n> I installed ubuntu but only use KDE and wish now I had installed kubuntu,  Is there a way to use dist-upgrade to make it
[04:46] <km0ti0n> install kubuntu 5.10 / 6.4 so that I don't have to reconfigure everything?
[04:46] <l3m> km0ti0n: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <MenZa_> Okay. Downloaded KDE - log out and back in, using the KDE session?
[04:46] <Riddell> rohan: I can't think of any kubuntu specific patch that would fix that
[04:46] <rohan> that, and Riddell , can you please poke around a bit for this bug when you have time ? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807
[04:47] <Riddell> rohan: however we do set a minimum font size in kubuntu-default-settings
[04:47] <rohan> Riddell: but then how is the problem not appearing in kubuntu ? ;(
[04:47] <rohan> Riddell: no, i tried changing the font size in konqi there
[04:47] <C] oNFi[X> hi
[04:48] <C] oNFi[X> anyone italian user??
[04:48] <ganymed_> nutshell: i am trying to do so, but i cannot delete my mail folder as kmail crashes then... i'll leave some things in there
[04:48] <km0ti0n> l3m: thanks
[04:50] <ganymed_> nutshell42: i am trying to do so, but i cannot delete my mail folder as kmail crashes then... i'll leave some things in there
[04:51] <ganymed_> nutshell42: nothing works... hmpf! it still tries to download them over and over again... could it be server related?
[04:52] <nutshell42> kmail crashes if that folder is empty even though you moved your kmailrc?
[04:52] <nutshell42> sec, let me try here
[04:52] <rohan> Riddell: also, that bug is ok .. what irritates me (and other ppl too) is http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807
[04:53] <rohan> Riddell: see, it has 60 votes already
[04:53] <rohan> Riddell: can you please fix that on kubuntu if you have time ?
[04:54] <Riddell> rohan: I won't have time
[04:54] <ganymed_> nutshell42: i left the standard stuff in there and it works. the inbox account behaves normally, i think. but the problem is the other account. it just downloads over and over again. the rest seems to work
[04:54] <Riddell> and it could well be a deliberate change
[04:54] <rohan> Riddell: ah, sad :(
[04:54] <rohan> Riddell: yes, so i am thinking of re-opening at wishlist
[04:54] <rohan> *as
[04:54] <rohan> Riddell: but i have confirmation from neither end
[04:55] <nutshell42> ganymed_: even if you don't copy that account from your old kmailrc but create a new entry with kmail?
[04:55] <ganymed_> yes
[04:56] <nutshell42> hmm
[04:56] <ganymed_> it does not download from the rest of the accounts, it seems. right now i have only one...
[04:56] <ganymed_> could i be a server issue
[04:56] <ganymed_> ?
[04:56] <nutshell42> if it's only with that account
[04:56] <ganymed_> ok, wait
[04:56] <nutshell42> and even if you set it up with the kmail gui instead of copying the info over from the old kmailrc
[04:58] <ganymed_> nutshell42: yes, even then
[04:59] <nutshell42> hmm
[04:59] <nutshell42> try sending a new mail to that account and look whether it's only with existing mails or also with new ones
[04:59] <ganymed_> nutshell42: i have copied another account to into kmailrc. this one does not download new mails as there are no new mails. so this one (THOUGH it is copied) seems to work
[05:01] <nutshell42> ganymed_: if you don't have to have the msgs of that one account on the server you could set kmail to remove already d/led msgs from the server that should stop it
[05:01] <nutshell42> otherwise I'd recommend the kmail user-mailinglist
[05:01] <nutshell42> I assume someone there would know more
[05:03] <dipnlik> in kopete, is it possible to make new chat windows open in tabs inside an existing chat window?
[05:05] <nico8481> hi
[05:05] <AdHoc> Hi ... I need some help ...
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi AdHoc
[05:05] <AdHoc> I'm trying to install kubuntu in an external usb drive ...
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> AdHoc: i'm supprised that nic is free.
[05:06] <AdHoc> and I have the message ...
[05:06] <nutshell42> dipnlik: yes
[05:06] <nutshell42> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kopete/configure-dialog.html
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi nico8481
[05:06] <nutshell42> Chat Window Grouping Policy
[05:06] <AdHoc> kamping ... really??
[05:06] <AdHoc> the message is /dev/ram does not exist
[05:06] <ganymed_> nutshell42: it happens with all mails
[05:07] <dipnlik> nutshell42: oh, i didn't understand that text exactly then :P thank you
[05:07] <trappist> AdHoc: do you have a /dev/ram1 or ram0?
[05:07] <dipnlik> nutshell42: and about amarok, 1.4 has both score and rating systems :)
[05:07] <AdHoc> I don't know trappist
[05:07] <trappist> ls /dev/ram*
[05:08] <AdHoc> only /dev/ram
[05:08] <nutshell42> dipnlik: great....for *you* =P
[05:08] <|slade|> LOLOLOLOLOL CellarDoor
[05:08] <|slade|> i will stalk u to the end of irc
[05:08] <|slade|> OI
[05:08] <|slade|> where is Khalaed
[05:08] <ganymed_> nutshell42: thx for the link
[05:08] <CellarDoor> go away
[05:08] <|slade|> Khaled
[05:08] <|slade|> CellarDoor hahaha be nice
[05:08] <nutshell42> ganymed_: I thought it only happened with that one server
[05:08] <CellarDoor> stop following me around
[05:08] <|slade|> oi nutshell42 man, where is khalled
[05:09] <|slade|> CellarDoor but i like u
[05:09] <nutshell42> ganymed_: don't thank me yet, I haven't read it yet and it could be completely useless
[05:09] <CellarDoor> |slade|: do you even know what kubuntu is ?
[05:09] <nutshell42> |slade|: who is khalled?
[05:09] <|slade|> lol ur joking right CellarDoor?
[05:09] <ganymed_> well, it seems to be a server issue. i'll make this clear tomorrow. i meant it happens with new mails, too.
[05:09] <|slade|> Khaled designed mIRC
[05:09] <|slade|> i beleive
[05:10] <|slade|> wouldnt he hang out here?
[05:10] <CellarDoor> argh
[05:10] <CellarDoor> make the bad man stop
[05:10] <|slade|> CellarDoor haha kisses :)
[05:10] <buntuboy> yes, windows developers hang out on freenode
[05:10] <CellarDoor> lol
[05:11] <|slade|> lol i just took a bite of sum sushi in the fridge
[05:11] <|slade|> SUM NUT PUT WASABI IN IT
[05:11] <|slade|> who the ..... puts wasabi IN sushi
[05:11] <|slade|> its sposed to be a side dish like sauce
[05:12] <|slade|> oi buntuboy, u seen Khaled man?
[05:12] <|slade|> ganymed_ how bout u, i reall need to speak to Khaled
[05:13] <|slade|> yep its sweet
[05:13] <|slade|> NOW
[05:14] <|slade|> WHERE IN THE WORLD IS KHALED MARDEM-BEY
[05:14] <|slade|> its a new game we r playing
[05:14] <mindspin> !ops
[05:14] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:14] <|slade|> they just installed it on the pc's at school
[05:14] <nalioth> |slade|: can we be civil, please?
[05:14] <|slade|> i am civil :(
[05:14] <|slade|> what did i do wrong :|
[05:14] <nalioth> |slade|: this is a help channel, if you wish to discuss mIRC, join #mirc
[05:15] <|slade|> im not discussing mirc
[05:15] <|slade|> what sort of help can i get her nalioth
[05:15] <|slade|> i have a few issues i need help with
[05:15] <mindspin> only kubuntu related help
[05:15] <nalioth> |slade|: if you continue with the offtopic rambling, i can help you find the exit
[05:15] <|slade|> whats kubuntu
[05:15] <|slade|> nalioth , no its ok, im not blind thanks
[05:16] <|slade|> ok, so my first question i need help with
[05:16] <|slade|> what is kubuntu
[05:16] <nalioth> !kubuntu
[05:16] <ubotu> it has been said that kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:16] <mindspin> ;-)
[05:16] <|slade|> so its not a fork?
[05:16] <|slade|> is it a knife?
[05:16] <|slade|> or a spoon
[05:17] <eaxdrw> anyone able to help with printer hell in breezy?
[05:17] <|slade|> or perhaps we could go for spork or spade
[05:17] <Chryseus> |slade|: it's anal probe
[05:17] <|slade|> splae
[05:17] <buntuboy> me suggests slade should get forked
[05:17] <|slade|> splade
[05:17] <|slade|> hahaha
[05:17] <|slade|> ur both amusing
[05:17] <|slade|> nice work
[05:18] <mindspin> thanks
[05:19] <CellarDoor> :)
[05:19] <mindspin> eaxdrw: try cups instead of printer hell
[05:19] <mindspin> ;-)
[05:20] <eaxdrw> lol at the moment cups=printer hell
[05:20] <mindspin> so tell us about
[05:20] <mindspin> otherwise nobody can help
[05:20] <eaxdrw> I've just got kubuntu going on my laptop and home PC and am V happy execpt for for printing
[05:21] <eaxdrw> I have an HP940C on USB and it doesn't work...
[05:21] <eaxdrw> I've tried uninstalling cupsys which didn't fix it
[05:22] <mindspin> is the printer recognized?
[05:22] <eaxdrw> I've slimmed down cupsd.conf and can now do admin from the webinterface
[05:22] <eaxdrw> and have got the HPLIP software working
[05:23] <eaxdrw> it looks like the printer is recognised, but there are 'communication' problems
[05:28] <conn> hi, is it possible to pass an argument to apt-get to force a downgrade of a deb? For example, I added a 3rd party repo with newer system debs, but I want now to downgrade to the official debs. I've commented the 3rd party repo and updated, but trying to reinstall just reports that the packages can't be downloaded
[05:30] <CellarDoor> hmm
[05:30] <nutshell42> create the file /etc/apt/preferences
[05:30] <CellarDoor> I read something about it in a mag
[05:30] <nutshell42> then use an entry like this:
[05:30] <mindspin> google for apt-pinning
[05:30] <nutshell42> Package: apt
[05:30] <nutshell42> Pin: version 0.4.0
[05:30] <nutshell42> Pin-Priority: 1001
[05:31] <nutshell42> change the package name as necessary
[05:31] <nutshell42> you can use wildcards for the version iirc
[05:31] <nutshell42> and as long as you set the priority to >1000 it will downgrade
[05:31] <eaxdrw> hp-toolbox reports either a 'communication error' or that the printer is 'unplugged or switched off' (it's not ;-)  0
[05:31] <mindspin> have a look at some documents first, you can messs up your system when doing it not the right way
[05:33] <eaxdrw> and the cups web interface reports it as "open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds..."
[05:34] <eaxdrw> I've been through the wiki, mailing list archives and google and have found losts of people with similar problems but very few solutions...
[05:34] <mindspin> do you " see"  the printer in controlcenter ?
[05:34] <eaxdrw> any more ideas please?
[05:35] <eaxdrw> what do you mean by 'the controlcenter'?
[05:35] <conn> nutshell42: thanks, but I need to downgrade multiple packages
[05:36] <mindspin> kdesu kcontrol
[05:36] <mindspin> to see if the usb-printer is already detected
[05:37] <eaxdrw> yes, the printer appears, but I installed it there
[05:38] <dipnlik> what media players kde has? is there one with rating support?
[05:39] <dipnlik> tried juk and amarok, don't really want xmms, any other suggestions?
[05:40] <mindspin> eaxdrw: I would guess its usb related but I do not use such modern devices as usb printers ;-)
[05:40] <mindspin> so maybe someone else can help
[05:41] <eaxdrw> lol - seems fair mindspin
[05:42] <nutshell42> conn: you could remove those packages and reinstall
[05:42] <eaxdrw> the annoying thing is that I have a ubuntu5.04 liveCD and it works from that
[05:42] <conn> nutshell42: ok, how do I force to remove them and not remove dependencies? Otherwise it'll remove 220 packages
[05:43] <nutshell42> conn: you could also have a look at man apt_preferences, there are some other tricks besides version and you can use wildcards
[05:43] <nutshell42> but afaik there's no great solution, downgrading with apt's always been a bitch, if you find something better, tell me =)
[05:44] <nutshell42> as long as your connection's fast, 220 packages shouldn't be too much of a problem
[05:44] <nutshell42> save that list in a text file
[05:44] <nutshell42> let apt remove all of them
[05:44] <nutshell42> and then copy&paste from the text file to apt-get install
[05:44] <conn> well that's a bit time consuming, I've only a dozen packages to fix.. I'm manually reinstalling them via dpkg
[05:44] <mindspin> google apt-pinning it can be a pain if it doesn't wen tine
[05:45] <mindspin> went fine
[05:45] <dipnlik> CellarDoor: what i like in amarok is implemented only in 1.4 whish is not easy installable on breezy
[05:45] <dipnlik> s/whish/which/
[05:46] <CellarDoor> dipnlik: ah i c
[05:55] <eaxdrw> thanks for the help mindspin - if no-one els has any ideas I guess I have to boot to windows to print again :'(
[05:56] <Pygi> eaxdrw: whats the issue?
[05:57] <eaxdrw> pygi: communication problem with an HP940C on USB
[05:57] <eaxdrw> it's there alright, but won't print (hp-toolbox says it's turned off...it's not)
[05:58] <Pygi> perhaps you need to add module for that (if needed, not sure right now) ?
[05:58] <Pygi> kernel module*
[05:58] <conn> has anyone here got a Dell Inspiron 8000?
[05:59] <eaxdrw> any ideas what module? something to take to google...?
[06:00] <Pygi> nop, sorry :-/
[06:00] <eaxdrw> k- thank for the suggestion ;)
[06:00] <Pygi> but it can be done... I know I was setting that printer before to someone...
[06:00] <Pygi> nothing ;)
[06:01] <eaxdrw> ok - I might go hassel the HPLIP lists :-) cheers
[06:03] <Pygi> eaxdrw: good luck :)
[06:12] <km0ti0n> How do I enable the tree view in konqueror?
[06:13] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody please tell me an easy image slicer program,not gimp. gimp can't do that i need.
[06:13] <robotgeek> km0ti0n: views -> View Mode
[06:14] <robotgeek> MetaMorfoziS: krita is good, i heard
[06:14] <km0ti0n> oh OK how do i split the view then
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> kirta?
[06:15] <mart> km0ti0n: right click the status bar
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[06:15] <MetaMorfoziS> i check
[06:16] <mart> km0ti0n: or use the window menu
[06:16] <km0ti0n> thanks guys I'll have a play.
[06:17] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm it's nice but i not found how can i slice with it
[06:17] <MetaMorfoziS> i try google
[06:23] <MetaMorfoziS> robotgeek:  i think it can doo any slicing
[06:23] <MetaMorfoziS> doy oyu know how can it can?
[06:23] <MetaMorfoziS> do you*
[06:23] <MetaMorfoziS> or other program?
[06:25] <robotgeek> MetaMorfoziS: not sure about images, sorry
[06:31] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[06:46] <nick01> !easysource
[06:46] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:47] <_trojan_> how do I know which nvidia driver is right for my system?
[06:47] <nick01> what videeo card ?
[06:47] <_trojan_> e-GeForce MX 4000
[06:47] <nick01> what are the choices ?
[06:48] <_trojan_> IA32, FreeBSD, nForce IA32 and IA64
[06:48] <nickthe> ia32
[06:48] <_trojan_> thanks nickthe
[06:48] <_trojan_> how could you tell?
[06:49] <nickthe> hmm - well actually I assumed u use a normal 32 bit system - right ?
[06:49] <_trojan_> right
[06:49] <nickthe> ia32 then
[06:49] <_trojan_> thankyou
[06:49] <ninHertatil> hi all
[06:50] <nickthe> u're getting this from nvidia site or synaptic ?
[06:53] <xwolf-> !streaming
[06:53] <ubotu> xwolf-: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:53] <xwolf-> !wmv
[06:53] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:59] <nick01> !divx
[06:59] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:00] <_karl> hello
[07:00] <jpatrick> hi _karl
[07:01] <_karl> what good sound editing programs are there on kde??
[07:04] <_trojan_> I am a bit confused with the instructions to install the nvidia IA32 driver.  Has anyone done this process?
[07:05] <arrinmurr> _karl: http://linux-sound.org/snded.html
[07:05] <_karl> thanx
[07:06] <nick01> _trojan_: don't use the driver from nvidia's site
[07:06] <_trojan_> ok...
[07:06] <nick01> _trojan_: install it from synaptic
[07:06] <nick01> ask ubotu lol
[07:06] <nick01> !nvidia
[07:06] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:07] <nick01> _trojan_: there
[07:07] <_trojan_> thankyou nick01
[07:07] <nick01> np
[07:12] <Tonio_> hi
[07:12] <robotgeek> hey Tonio_
[07:20] <vge> what do i need to add to kernel so bootloader works?
[07:20] <vge> now i get blank screen untill it starts kde?
[07:29] <Barbelos> Hmmm... Wondering what I have to do to use the k7 kernel-image. Can I just install it with adept, and then everything will just work?
[07:29] <Parkotron> Barbelos: It's just that easy.
[07:30] <Barbelos> Parkotron: Incredible. I take it it'll be the default kernel for grub then, and the old kernels will still be available in the menu?
[07:31] <mart> Barbelos: that's the idea.
[07:31] <Barbelos> * joy *
[07:31] <Barbelos> :D
[07:32] <mart> although, you ought to check it does use it by default.  sometimes it doesn't for me, but I don't know whether that's because I've tinkered too much.
[07:33] <Barbelos> mart: Hmmm... Ok. I should be able to convince grub to use it, have tinkered with that by hand before
[07:36] <frank_> when k3b calculates the md5sum? does it compare it to a known sum? Is the calculation actually useful?
[07:37] <mart> frank_: after burning, you can compare the md5sum of the CD with the md5 of the iso that was written
[07:38] <Barbelos> frank_: The calculation is useful if you have downloaded the md5sums text where you got the iso, so you can compare. Also, if you let k3b verify the data, it will check it up against the md5sum it calculated
[07:38] <frank_> Barbelos: ok.
[07:39] <frank_> Barbelos: it's just that I doubt many people actually check it so I wonder if it shouldn't be deactivated by default. I can imagine people wondering why their hd is trashing before the burn started
[07:41] <Barbelos> frank_: Maybe you're right. Though it only does so when burning ISOs anyway, not for other burning operations. Not a big deal. People should learn about md5sums when burning ISOs anyway ;)
[07:41] <frank_> Barbelos: yeah.
[07:46] <vge> hey, why cant i turn specific kernel option on?
[07:47] <yanis> hi
[07:49] <yanis> I think there is a 'simple' bug in konqueror. when you select an object (file/dir) there is no the 'Cut' action under the edit menu
[07:54] <shiggz> yo ppl
[07:54] <shiggz> I need some help here
[07:55] <shiggz> for some reason my kicker no longer shows running tasks
[07:55] <shiggz> any remedies?
[07:55] <tristanmike> shiggz: add the System Tray applet ?
[07:55] <conn> has anyone got a video card using the r128 driver
[07:55] <shiggz> ot
[07:55] <shiggz> it's there
[07:55] <shiggz> @ tristanmike
[07:56] <shiggz> I don't see the task buttons in the kicker
[07:56] <shiggz> the "taskbar"
[07:56] <Barbelos> I lost the screen settings for KDE after updating to 3.5.2. Have to adjust krandr every time I log on now, because it uses my old saved settings (which I no longer want)
[07:56] <shiggz> I've tried restarting and logging out, still no go
[07:56] <shiggz> I'm ready to try anything short of reinstalling the OS
[07:57] <vishah> under which repository is 'dchroot'?
[07:57] <shiggz> soo Mike any suggestions?
[07:57] <arrinmurr> !info dchroot
[07:58] <ubotu> dchroot: (Execute commands under different root filesystems), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.11 (breezy), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[07:58] <shiggz> mike, or anyone
[07:58] <vishah> thanks
[07:59] <Shiggz> = )
[07:59] <nico8481> shiggz: if you haven't tweaked a lot of things you can remove your .kde directory in your home dir to go back to default config :-)
[07:59] <Shiggz> ahh ok
[07:59] <Shiggz> thanks nico
[07:59] <mart> hmm, the whole .kde dir is a little heavy handed
[07:59] <Shiggz> it's ok
[08:00] <nico8481> but rename it rather than delete it, maybe you'll need it again :)
[08:00] <Shiggz> after I do that would I need to relog in
[08:00] <Shiggz> ?
[08:00] <mart> Shiggz:  try: find .kde -name kicker* | xargs rm
[08:00] <mart> from your home directory
[08:00] <nico8481> maybe you can be more specific about the files but i don't know which ones handle the system bar
[08:00] <Barbelos> The .kde dir is fine once you learn what goes where. Nicely ordered
[08:01] <mart> Shiggz: then:  pkill kicker ; kicker
[08:01] <Shiggz> bah I removed it
[08:01] <Shiggz> brb
[08:02] <mart> hmmm, I don't think he got the point that there was no need to do that.
[08:02] <nico8481> bah
[08:03] <shiggz> w00t
[08:03] <shiggz> worked
[08:03] <shiggz> thanks ppl
[08:04] <shiggz> man that was annoying
[08:04] <shiggz> nico8481: ^_^ thanks
[08:05] <pradeepto> robotgeek: yos!
[08:05] <robotgeek> hey pradeepto
[08:05] <nico8481> shiggz: np :)
[08:05] <pradeepto> robotgeek: namaste ;)
[08:06] <robotgeek> :)
[08:06] <irad> Can anyone help me fix this thing: www.arava.co.il/~infrared/snapshop1.png
[08:06] <irad> ?
[08:07] <irad> http://www.arava.co.il/~infrared/snapshot1.png *
[08:07] <nick01> I'm trying to listen to a live cd- I can't hear anything :(
[08:07] <shiggz> testing
[08:07] <nick01> lol
[08:08] <nick01> sorry
[08:08] <nick01> audio cd
[08:08] <nick01> not live cd
[08:08] <nick01> I'm trying to listen to an audio cd
[08:08] <irad> with what prog?
[08:08] <irad> package
[08:08] <nick01> kscd
[08:08] <nick01> this is on ppc btw
[08:09] <irad> no clue sorry :)
[08:09] <nick01> k
[08:15] <MidMark> BIG problem: kubuntu 5.10 won't start, it says that e2fsck failed to start and then stop to boot... how can I do?
[08:16] <stupendo44> question: how can I install multiple "deb" files at the same time. There's some packages that I downloaded manually, and it's a pain to have to go through each deb file and install it.
[08:16] <stupendo44> also, sometimes there's dependecies on one file, and I have to go back and forth guessing which package I need to install next
[08:16] <nick01> stupendo44: dpkg -i *.deb
[08:16] <stupendo44> ok
[08:16] <MidMark> stupendo44: select all -> right click -> install
[08:17] <stupendo44> MidMark: that opens up a ton of separate windows
[08:17] <nick01> or that :P\
[08:17] <MidMark> it shouldn't
[08:18] <MidMark> guys I have a problem... please help me, I cannot boot kubuntu anymore
[08:18] <stupendo44> MidMark: I guess you're right
[08:18] <stupendo44> it didn't
[08:18] <nick01> MidMark: reinstall
[08:18] <stupendo44> it did when I clicked show info, rather than install
[08:18] <MidMark> nick01: don't like windows solutions
[08:18] <stupendo44> MidMark: what's the problem
[08:19] <MidMark> kubuntu 5.10 won't start, it says that e2fsck failed to start and then stop to boot
[08:19] <nick01> MidMark: power failure ?
[08:19] <vge> http://www.tp.spt.fi/~veenseta/snapshot7.jpg<--why cant i select that package? :/
[08:20] <stupendo44> crap, selecting all > uninstall is bad
[08:20] <stupendo44> opens up a ton of windows
[08:20] <MidMark> nick01: what does you mean for power?
[08:20] <nick01> MidMark: the electricity went out >?
[08:21] <stupendo44> MidMark: does it leave you with a command line?
[08:21] <stupendo44> I would try running e2fsck manually
[08:21] <stupendo44> see if there's an error
[08:21] <nick01> he said it hangs
[08:21] <MidMark> no
[08:25] <MidMark> yes it hangs, I have started the notebook and see this error
[08:26] <MidMark> could busybox from the dvd help me?
[08:26] <nick01> try ctrl+alt+f2
[08:36] <xwolf-> how do i install mozilla-mplayer package without having to install the firefox package? (i already installed firefox from tarball)
[08:38] <MidMark> nick01: I will try, now I haven't the notebook with me thanx
[08:38] <nick01> k
[08:38] <nick01> some troubleshouting without the notebook
[08:38] <nick01> shooting
[08:39] <MidMark> the problem is on my brother's notebook
[08:39] <MidMark> that called me a lit scared
[08:52] <xwolf-> how do i install mozilla-mplayer package without having to install the firefox package? (i already installed firefox from tarball)
[09:24] <johannes> #klaplopers
[09:24] <shiggz> bah
[09:24] <shiggz> another problem
[09:25] <shiggz> my c compiler "can't create executeables" for some reason
[09:25] <shiggz> any known fix?
[09:26] <sero> hallo
[09:26] <shiggz> hi
[09:27] <sero> german??
[09:27] <shiggz> uh...no
[09:27] <sero> i have a problem with my alsa
[09:27] <sero> i have 3 possible sound devices
[09:28] <mart> sero: there's #kubuntu-de ...
[09:29] <sero> but now i want that the order in which the devices will get loaded to get different
[09:29] <sero> how can i do that
[09:29] <sero> i will type in some configs if needed
[09:31] <trappist> sero: edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[09:31] <sero> ok
[09:32] <trappist> sero: or /etc/modules - I'm educatedly guessing, but I know it has to do with the order in which the modules are loaded
[09:32] <bommi> gibt es auch einen deutschen Kubuntu IRC Channel?
[09:32] <sero> if i try the /etc/modules no changes will happen
[09:33] <sero> because the modules , i think, are autoloaded from the kernel
[09:36] <borelia> what sound recorder for kde ?
[09:36] <mart> !de
[09:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:36] <mart> oh, sorry, he's gone.
[09:38] <shiggz> sooo anyone?
[09:38] <shiggz> my c compiler doesnt like  me
[09:39] <asimov> I just upgraded to KDE  3.5 and i can't seem to access websites that use PHP... Any ideas?
[09:39] <mart> shiggz: have you installed build-essential ?
[09:39] <borelia> i answer myselfe : krecord
[09:40] <shiggz> mart no in fact
[09:40] <mart> asimov: like what?
[09:40] <shiggz> doing that now
[09:40] <vge> asimov: what does it do when you enter a php page in browser?
[09:42] <asimov> hmm now its working
[09:43] <iceman> ok ... i need the link to the repository updates
[09:43] <jpatrick> iceman: sudo apt-get update ?
[09:44] <frank_> !ati
[09:44] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:44] <shiggz> ok sweet
[09:44] <shiggz> that's what I was missing
[09:44] <shiggz> thanks
[09:45] <iceman> you run apt-get update then turn on the restricted then reload correct
[09:47] <johannes> hi
[09:47] <johannes> can someone tell how to register
[09:48] <iceman> brb i hope
[09:49] <jpatrick> johannes: register where?
[09:49] <robotgeek> !register
[09:49] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:51] <johannes> i wanna pm someone in an other room
[09:51] <johannes> but i cant
[09:51] <johannes> "/msg nickserv. register <your-password>"
[09:52] <robotgeek> johannes: no . after register
[09:52] <johannes> deutsch?
[09:52] <johannes> ok
[09:52] <johannes> ich versteh nicht das mit dem nickserv
[09:52] <robotgeek> !de
[09:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[09:54] <johannes> in the command "/msg nickserv.." nickserv has to be replaced by my name ?
[09:55] <mart> johannes: no
[09:55] <Wizz_kidd> why isnt my amarok sound working
[09:55] <Wizz_kidd> on all the apps my sound isnt working
[09:55] <Wizz_kidd> well i am trying to play a mp3 file
[09:56] <Wizz_kidd> and none of the programs are reading mp3 or something
[09:56] <vge> !restrictedformats
[09:56] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:56] <sero> my also
[09:56] <Wizz_kidd> ?
[09:56] <Wizz_kidd> i just want to play my music
[09:57] <sean> wizz_kidd do "sudo apt-get install akode-mp3 k3b-mp3" no quotes in a terminal
[09:59] <mart> Wizz_kidd: there's a shorter description in the kubuntu faq.
[09:59] <sean> wizz_kidd I think you can also do "sudo apt-get install gstreamer-mpeg" no quotes in a terminal, to install mp3s in amarok
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> hi there, guys
[10:00] <sean> the RestrictedFormats wiki page is still a very valuable resource
[10:00] <mart> no question.
[10:00] <mart> but I'm guessing Wizz_kidd found it a wee bit intimidating :)
[10:01] <rysiek|pl> guys, a little offtop, probably, but does anybody know a way of mounting/reading *.fcd (VirtualCD) files under Linux?
[10:01] <rysiek|pl> google refuses to co-operate on this one
[10:01] <mart> is it just an iso image?
[10:01] <Wizz_kidd> still stuck
[10:01] <Wizz_kidd> whats the defualt root password
[10:01] <Wizz_kidd> for jubuntu
[10:01] <Wizz_kidd> kubuntu
[10:01] <mart> Wizz_kidd: it's asking for your password
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> mart: well, I don't thinks so, it's VirtualCD's internal format
[10:02] <Wizz_kidd> yes fo sudo of course
[10:02] <Wizz_kidd> for*
[10:02] <mart> rysiek|pl: ugh :(
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> yeah
[10:02] <Wizz_kidd> default ?
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> I'll try to mount -o loop it in a minute, but I suspect a nice failure :)
[10:03] <Wizz_kidd> root password?
[10:03] <goop2> anybody have skype?
[10:03] <goop2> Im having trouble installing it
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> goop2: I do
[10:04] <OutoLumo> goop, what kind of?
[10:04] <mart> Wizz_kidd: there isn't one, and it's not asking you for it.
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> goop2: what seems to be the problem?
[10:04] <goop2> rysiek|pl: rysiek|pl
[10:04] <goop2> agh
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> yep, that's my name :]
[10:05] <kpaolo> azz...errore 20 per grub reinstall...
[10:05] <goop2> wtf...
[10:05] <goop2> it wont let me paste
[10:05] <kpaolo> nn riesco a riscrivere l'mbr
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> goop2: wait - is it a problem during installation
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> ?
[10:05] <goop2> rysiek|pl: it says ar isnt in my path
[10:06] <rysiek|pl> ? a waht isn't in your path?
[10:06] <goop2> rysiek|pl: I just downloaded it and it said that when I clicked on it
[10:06] <rysiek|pl> !tell goop2 about pastebin
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> goop2: just paste the messages on pastebin and gimme the link ;)
[10:07] <OutoLumo> goop2, tell me, you downloaded the skype debian package from the skype.com website?
[10:07] <uros> hi all. have been fooling around with KDE too much - somehow enabled translucency (or sth like that) - system is awfully slow - how do i turn it off?
[10:07] <goop2> OutoLumo: yes
[10:07] <OutoLumo> There's a known issue with that file.
[10:07] <goop2> OutoLumo: oh...
[10:08] <OutoLumo> goop2: try this: download the rpm, then transform it to deb with alien and install that file.
[10:08] <tomplast> hi everyone, can anyone tell me if there are any free codecs for mp3, avi, divx, midi and things like that?
[10:08] <goop2> OutoLumo: does alien come with kubuntu?
[10:08] <OutoLumo> The problem is that the deb references to an nonexistant library. (There are several workarounds to this.)
[10:09] <OutoLumo> goop, yes. It's a standard debian command. it comes with ubuntu
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> OutoLumo: I have made a custom deb of skype for Ubuntu, gimme a sec
[10:10] <goop2> OutoLumo: there are 3 RPM packages here
[10:10] <OutoLumo> rysiek|pl: give it to goop2 :-)
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> OutuLumo, goop2: try this: http://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i368-rysiek1.deb
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> (this works on my setup, and my sisters' setups, so there is a fair chance it will on yours ;) )
[10:11] <nick01> can somebody help me ? the cd player doesn't work
[10:11] <goop2> rysiek|pl, OutoLumo: thanks pplz
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> no prob :)
[10:11] <OutoLumo> np
[10:12] <uros> reset the computer - translucency shut off in system settings, but still working - how do i shut it off anyone? the computer barely usable at this speed
[10:12] <OutoLumo> rysiek|pl: that sounds like a good idea to me... :-)
[10:12] <DjDarkman> how do can I use the kde translucency effect?
[10:12] <rysiek|pl> yeah, well the problem is skype doesn't want anybody to distribute it. I mailed them, like 4months ago and no answer
[10:13] <OutoLumo> uros: sudo shutdown now
[10:13] <goop2> rysiek|pl: still wont work
[10:14] <goop2> rysiek|pl: oh wait... its downloading... nvm
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> oops ;) what are the error msgs, and are you using Dapper or Breezy?
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> ah :)
[10:14] <goop2> I was trying to open the old one
[10:14] <DjDarkman> no one knows why trancelucency won`t work 4 me?
[10:15] <OutoLumo> rysiek|pl: how about setting the question in such a way that they need to reply in order to refuse it? Like: "In case you have anything against us distributing this file, please let us know." ;-)
[10:15] <rysiek|pl> goop2: BTW: don't "open" it. open the konsole and type: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/your/dir/skype*rysiek*.deb
[10:15] <goop2> rysiek|pl: ok
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> OutuLumo: chances are that it has been written like that already - have to check it ;)
[10:16] <uros> translucency problem still - it seems to start at the very end of the start-up...
[10:17] <DjDarkman> yes uros but it gives me and error
[10:17] <DjDarkman> it tells me to put something to the xorg.conf
[10:17] <DjDarkman> i write it in the conf ,restart and the xorg wont run at all
[10:17] <iceman> !nvidia
[10:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:18] <goop2> is there a way to get estimated download times?
[10:18] <OutoLumo> goop2: with what program?
[10:19] <xwolf-> divide the filesize by the download-speed
[10:19] <xwolf-> ;P
[10:19] <tRSS> hey everyone! how can I get my USB headset to work with amarok?
[10:19] <uros> n1: how would i go about returning KD to initial settings? uninstall - install or anything simplar?
[10:19] <goop2> OutoLumo: I dunno... Im using either firefox or the standard kubuntu downloader
[10:20] <Snake__> uros: your KDE I presume you ment to say?
[10:20] <iceman> to kool, dapper supports my kde theme ....
[10:20] <iceman> got to restart x .... oh boy .. ouch ..
[10:20] <uros> snake: yes
[10:20] <rysiek|pl> goop2: sorry, should've warned you that my bandwidth is not top-of-the-line ;)
[10:20] <tRSS> hey everyone! how can I get my USB headset to work with amarok?
[10:20] <OutoLumo> tRSS: first you need to get your USB headset work with kubuntu... Then it will work with amarok as well. See K->System Settings->Sound and multimedia
[10:20] <Snake__> uros: "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde1"
[10:21] <Snake__> in CLI
[10:21] <Snake__> then restart x
[10:21] <tRSS> OutoLumo: my usb headset works with xmms
[10:21] <goop2> rysiek|pl: heh, not only that but I gave the link to one of my friends :P
[10:21] <OutoLumo> What's your xmms sound output plug-in?
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> lol! :]  ah, well... the box is up-and-wired 24/7, so it will get downloaded... eventually :)
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> ok, I'll be living you for about 15mins, but don't worry, be back here in no-time
[10:27] <steveire> hi
[10:28] <OutoLumo> tRSS, What's your xmms sound output plug-in?
[10:29] <steveire> I've just installed kubuntu, and just now firefox. I can install extensions ok with it, but not themes
[10:30] <tRSS> OutoLumo: let me check real quick
[10:30] <tomplast> !codecs
[10:30] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:30] <steveire> Also, after initial installation, is there anything else I'd want to do to get myself started?
[10:30] <tomplast> !easysource
[10:30] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:31] <tRSS> OutoLumo: OSS Driver 1.2.10
[10:31] <thompa> where is the koffice 1.5 rc1?
[10:32] <steveire> can someone tell me where applications are installed to, and whether I can install a theme manually in ff?
[10:32] <OutoLumo> tRSS: How about your audio system in K->System Settings->Sound and multimedia->Soundsystem->Hardware ?
[10:32] <tomplast> !w32codecs
[10:32] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:32] <tRSS> OutLumo: it says autodetect
[10:34] <OutoLumo> tRSS, Try changing it to OSS?
[10:34] <tRSS> OutoLumo: alright, lets try
[10:35] <OutoLumo> thompa: Check here for sources-list lines: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15rc1.php
[10:35] <mart> thompa: there's a link on the kubuntu site
[10:35] <mart> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15rc1.php
[10:36] <thompa> thanks mart
[10:36] <thompa> and OutoLumo thanks
[10:37] <OutoLumo> steveire: I suggest you look at K->System->Adept for installing programs...
[10:37] <mart> oh, sorry, didn't see your answer OutoLumo
[10:37] <OutoLumo> mart, np :-)
[10:38] <thompa> is there any application to tweak touchpad, im using flight 6, it works better than before, but things are jumpy sometimes
[10:38] <Danny> can someone help me with kubuntu?
[10:38] <OutoLumo> steveire: if you want to try a more "manual" installation, I recommend running "sudo aptitude" from the command line.
[10:39] <OutoLumo> Danny, I dunno. What's the problem?
[10:39] <Danny> I edited my sources file
[10:39] <Danny> and downloaded updates
[10:39] <Danny> now my KDE desktop transformed into gnome
[10:39] <mart> thompa: any idea what kind of touchpad?
[10:39] <tomplast> why doesnt katapult works in dapper?
[10:40] <Danny> and some isn't working
[10:40] <OutoLumo> Danny, lol
[10:40] <Danny> I replaced it with this
[10:40] <Danny> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[10:40] <Danny> ?
[10:40] <steveire> OutoLumo: I installed firefox using adept. Now I want to use the noia theme
[10:40] <tRSS> OutoLumo: got it working. I just had to insert /dev/dsp1 in the amarok settings (under engine). it was soo simple! lol :) thanks for your help though!
[10:40] <OutoLumo> Danny, install kubuntu-desktop package, and uninstall ubuntu-desktop...
[10:40] <steveire> It wont seem to install
[10:40] <Danny> oh yeah
[10:40] <mart> thompa: if it's a synaptics device, you could try ksynaptics or qsynaptics
[10:41] <Danny> btw, I edited the sources because after I restarted and logged it
[10:41] <Danny> *in
[10:41] <Danny> it didn't do anything
[10:41] <Danny> it just hung on my wallpaper
[10:42] <OutoLumo> Danny, I think you may have installed some package that depends on gnome...
[10:42] <Danny> I also tried out automatix
[10:42] <theborg0815> arbend
[10:42] <Danny> before someone told me not to use that
[10:42] <OutoLumo> tRSS :-)
[10:43] <theborg0815> hat einer mal kurtz 5 min zeit ?
[10:43] <Danny> ?
[10:44] <OutoLumo> steveire, Firefox plugins are handled through firefox own installation system, see Tools->Extensions in Firefox (Load new extensions - like themes...)
[10:44] <DjDarkman> how do I install a kdm theme?
[10:44] <OutoLumo> Danny, well, the first question is, what do you want to happen to your system now?
[10:45] <MidMark> hi guys
[10:45] <Danny> 1: To make it go back to kde
[10:45] <Danny> 2: I want the login to work
[10:45] <MidMark> my kununtu 5.10 won't run no more
[10:45] <thompa> mart: thanks, its a sony vaio notebook touchpad, i dont think alps matters
[10:46] <MidMark> I've started kubuntu and need a fsck to continue
[10:46] <MidMark> run a fsck and now my system goes error 15 from grub
[10:46] <OutoLumo> Danny, ok. And what was the problem with login?
[10:47] <Danny> it didn't do anything
[10:47] <Danny> it just hung on my wallpaper
[10:47] <steveire> OutoLumo: I've been talking to #firefox people, and it seems to be a problem with the addons site. Thanks for the attention
[10:47] <OutoLumo> steveire:-)ste
[10:48] <steveire> So, can I browse my windows partition using kubuntu?
[10:48] <Danny> steveire: you should
[10:48] <OutoLumo> Danny: ok. To start with, update your sources list according to this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[10:48] <steveire> is it a simple mount operation, or does the ntfs complicate things?
[10:49] <tRSS> OutoLumo: sorry I keep buggin' you and I can see you are busy helping everyone! just a quick question, now why isn't my amarok saving the artist artwork after finding it on the internet!?!?! it saves it on my other kubuntu machine!
[10:49] <MidMark> guys none that help me? My system is out and without a good reason
[10:49] <MidMark> from today it stops to work!
[10:49] <Danny> add all of the deb files?
[10:49] <OutoLumo> tRSS, I dunno. Looks like you need to check your local amaroK settings :-)
[10:50] <tRSS> OutoLumo: Will do! thanks again :oD
[10:50] <MidMark> #ubuntu
[10:50] <OutoLumo> Danny, it's a new version of KDE...
[10:50] <johannes> i twould like to add these icons to gtkpod http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=36687
[10:51] <johannes> it says there copy them to  /opt/gnome/share/gtkpod/pixmaps/
[10:51] <Danny> ah ok
[10:51] <OutoLumo> Another thing: do you have kdm installed? How about gdm?
[10:51] <Danny> how can I find out?
[10:51] <johannes> what would be the equivalent in kde?
[10:51] <OutoLumo> Danny, I'd use aptitude...
[10:52] <OutoLumo> Danny, so to start with, type "sudo apt-get install aptitude" to the command line
[10:52] <goop2> is your server down? Ive been stuck at 52% - 9:17 remaining for about 10 minutes I think O.o
[10:52] <goop2> rysiek|pl
[10:53] <OutoLumo> that gives you a very intuitive and powerful package manager that will work equally well under ubuntu & kubuntu (as it works in the shell...)
[10:53] <share> with the new intel duo core processor would i use the regular kernel or the smp kernel? does anyone know?
[10:54] <OutoLumo> goop2: I think rysiek went out for a couple minutes, please be patient...
[10:54] <OutoLumo> share, I'd guess regular, but consult some kernel-specific group for real info...
[10:54] <Danny> ok
[10:55] <_harm> my ATI radeon 9200 is having problems, whenever i play cs1.6 via Wine or a Q3 game its reaaaly low FPS and freezy.. anyone help?
[10:55] <johannes> does sb know where the gtkpod pixmap/icons are stored in kde?
[10:56] <OutoLumo> share, SMP said someone.
[10:56] <goop2> OutoLumo: ok
[10:57] <johannes> 7home/user/.kde/share/..no
[10:57] <johannes> ichecked
[10:58] <OutoLumo> johannes, I'd guess the same place as in ubuntu, since gtkpod is a gnome-program...
[10:59] <Danny> OutoLumo: Since the thing switched, i can't get on my network
[11:00] <johannes> well the folder i am supposed to copy the icons doesnt exist in kde
[11:01] <Danny> bbl
[11:01] <johannes> "Copy files into /opt/gnome/share/gtkpod/pixmaps/ as root"
[11:01] <_harm> when drake comes out will it also be an update for Kubuntu?
[11:01] <MidMark> I have a problem: I've started kubuntu and it forced a file system check, after this it stopped and said that I have to manually type fsck.
[11:01] <MidMark> Type fsck a lot of inode seems broken, seems that all directorys (/home /etc /var) are without a father.
[11:01] <MidMark> So after the manual fsck I have rebooted and Grub now give me error 15 without booting
[11:01] <OutoLumo> johannes, create it?
[11:02] <MidMark> I have a chance to recover my data?
[11:02] <OutoLumo> MidMark, slight.
[11:02] <johannes> ok<i try ; but wouldnt i have to replace the original icons?
[11:03] <OutoLumo> MidMark, but not very great. It seems that your disk is broken.
[11:03] <OutoLumo> MidMark: try looking directories called lost and found (or something)
[11:03] <MidMark> the problem is now i cannot boot kubuntu
[11:04] <MidMark> what can i do?
[11:04] <OutoLumo> MidMark, try mounting the partitions and working on them from a livecd
[11:04] <MidMark> ok I have kubuntu 5.10 dvd
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> ok, I'm back. took a wee bit longer than I thought
[11:05] <OutoLumo> johannes, you could  try to search for the files (type "locate filename") of the original icons...
[11:05] <MidMark> to mount which command?
[11:05] <OutoLumo> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt (or something...)
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> goop2: did it finish dloading? if so, did it work aok? :)
[11:05] <MidMark> ok I'll try
[11:06] <goop2> I stopped it just now
[11:06] <goop2> it hasnt done anything for 10 minutes
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> ouch
[11:06] <goop2> Im gonna play a game on windowz
[11:06] <goop2> ttyl
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> cu :)
[11:07] <Nookie^> hi! im trying to compile something but im getting this error:checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes
[11:07] <Nookie^> what package should i install
[11:07] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[11:07] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[11:08] <OutoLumo> MidMark: to start with, I of course recommend using google...
[11:09] <johannes> if i cannot use x as root,but with sudo why is this?
[11:09] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell johannes about sudo
[11:09] <MidMark> but I'm not a newbie to linux, but I don't know to recover data in these cases
[11:09] <blackshell> my graphic is fucked up ... i don't see anything... how to reconfigure that. why doesn't command xconfigure doesn't work ?
[11:10] <OutoLumo> The data that cannot be associated with any inode is put into lost&found directories in respective partitions.
[11:10] <robotgeek> blackshell, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:11] <robotgeek> blackshell: also, please watch your lanuage
[11:11] <blackshell> sorry for that word
[11:11] <MidMark> the problem is during fsck is asked me to fix a lot of things
[11:11] <blackshell> but i was pissed of
[11:11] <blackshell> off*
[11:11] <blackshell> sorry again.
[11:11] <OutoLumo> As a rule, by far the best and easiest way to recover the data is backup...
[11:11] <blackshell> and thank you for this
[11:11] <MidMark> I know but it's not my pc
[11:12] <MidMark> also it said if have to fix lost+found, home and other dir
[11:12] <OutoLumo> MidMark: Then expect poor results after extensive work.
[11:12] <MidMark> don't know what does it means "fix" for it
[11:12] <Brujah> hy folks!
[11:13] <MidMark> damn!
[11:13] <Brujah> Installed kubuntu yesterday. And it kicks ass!
[11:13] <Brujah> Impressive!
[11:13] <nuky> hi, i'm trying to install xine-ui to use for dvd playback, but when i run xine check, i get a message saying that DMA is not enabled which i think IS the cause of my dvd playback skipping a lot but when i try to turn it on, i get the following: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/642945 (output of xine-xheck and turning DMA on) please can you help me with this error? i do not understand why i'm not allowed to do that, even when i sudo it.. i also
[11:13] <nuky> mount/unmounted.. but no joy..
[11:13] <OutoLumo> However, I don't think this is a kubuntu specific problem, and you could get better help from elsewhere.
[11:14] <Brujah> how can I change from lilo to grub?
[11:14] <Brujah> I installed grup with adept but its not yet installed...
[11:14] <Brujah> used I mean...
[11:15] <steveire> hi
[11:15] <steveire> My first kubnun
[11:15] <steveire> nuts
[11:15] <steveire> *kubuntu installation isn't going too well
[11:15] <steveire> Things keep stalling
[11:16] <steveire> When I run adept it doesn't seem to work
[11:16] <steveire> When I try to shut down, I get a grey screen with a x shaped mouse pointer, and it just doesn't shut down until i press the off button
[11:17] <steveire> Can anyone help me out a bit?
[11:17] <johannes> http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/,
[11:17] <steveire> that for me?
[11:17] <johannes> no
[11:18] <johannes> mistake steveire
[11:18] <robotgeek> steveire: this is breezy?
[11:19] <steveire> yeah 5.10
[11:19] <Red_Herring> try dapper?
[11:19] <steveire> i thought it was unstable development
[11:20] <Red_Herring> its more stable than windows
[11:20] <Red_Herring> :-P
[11:20] <Red_Herring> but thats not saying much
[11:20] <MidMark> GREAT
[11:20] <blackshell> robotgeek i have reconfgured it twice but still can not see my display :S
[11:20] <MidMark> I see everu file in home
[11:20] <steveire> Most use dapper?
[11:20] <Red_Herring> but honestly, dapper has had major stability issues worked out, now its polishing for the next few weeks
[11:21] <Brujah> What I want to achieve is that I can boot into windows. Lilo is starting ubuntu directly without asking what I want to use...
[11:21] <steveire> And if i install it now, I can use adept to update it regularly?
[11:21] <Red_Herring> hey, dapper is going stable when i get out of school for summer break!!!!
[11:21] <Tm_T> but honestly, if you are not ready to encounter some BIG breakages, stay in breezy
[11:21] <MidMark> Outolumo: if I see file they are ok or not?
[11:21] <Red_Herring> Tm_T: i havent encountered one major problem yet
[11:22] <Red_Herring> other than the HD died, which really wasnt kubuntu's fault, just a crappy laptop
[11:22] <Tm_T> Red_Herring: two behind, over 5 months dapper
[11:22] <Red_Herring> ?
[11:22] <Tm_T> yup
[11:22] <steveire> Tm_T: Can you help me with my breezy issues?
[11:22] <Tm_T> steveire: maybe
[11:23] <steveire> I try to start adept, sometimes it doesn't start at all, when it does it just stalls
[11:23] <steveire> When I try to shut down, I get a grey screen with a x shaped mouse pointer, and it just doesn't shut down until i press the off button
[11:23] <Brujah> is there a tool to change lilo config? Or do I have to edit the config files by hand?
[11:23] <Red_Herring> Brujah: try grub
[11:23] <Brujah> I installed it with adept. Whats next?
[11:24] <Tm_T> steveire: ah, adept... I don't use it ;)
[11:24] <steveire> you just use konsole?
[11:24] <Brujah> Tried grup-install does nothing
[11:24] <steveire> What about my shutdown issue?
[11:24] <Red_Herring> Brujah: nothing, when you install grub it does it for you
[11:24] <Tm_T> steveire: what's that
[11:24] <hellz_hunter> i have dapper as my sources.list, should i also include a breezy line as well?
[11:24] <Brujah> But when I restart I still have lilo
[11:24] <steveire> When I try to shut down, I get a grey screen with a x shaped mouse pointer, and it just doesn't shut down until i press the off button
[11:25] <hellz_hunter> i dont seem to have alot of install packages to choose from, like xine and whatnot
[11:25] <Tm_T> steveire: whoa
[11:25] <steveire> what?
[11:25] <Brujah> And there is no menu.lst
[11:25] <Red_Herring> Brujah: dpkg-reconfigure grub
[11:25] <Red_Herring> that *should* do it
[11:26] <steveire> Tm_T: Any ideas?
[11:26] <Tm_T> steveire: nope, sounds like there's something broken
[11:26] <Brujah> tried it but runs without any comments but does nothing...
[11:26] <steveire> Nope, still doesn't work
[11:27] <Brujah> I have to run it like "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub"
[11:27] <Red_Herring> yes, sudo is needed
[11:28] <Red_Herring> but this is assuming grub is installed in the first place, which i thought you mentioned it was
[11:28] <vge> anyone know what i need to put  into my new kernel to be able to connect to irc, internet works, but when i try to connect to irc it stops in the "looking ident" face?
[11:28] <Red_Herring> vge: i dont think thats the kernel's problem, but the irc client's
[11:28] <steveire> I start adept, and I'm connected to universe and multiverse, and it tells me I can update 12 packages.
[11:28] <Brujah> it is I can say "grub" and then get into the bash like thing
[11:29] <vge> well it goes with this 2.6.10 kernel, but not with my new 2.6.17 one?
[11:29] <steveire> I try to update and commit changes, and it is indefinitely at waiting for headers (0%)
[11:29] <vge> it just hangs there forewa
[11:30] <vge> well, maby bigger broblem is that "why dont i see anything before GUI when i boot"? i need vesa or something?
[11:34] <robotgeek> blackshell: sorry ,was away
[11:34] <robotgeek> vge: did you not copy your old config and do a make oldconfig?
[11:35] <vge> i did
[11:35] <blackshell> robotgeek np... but i still don't know how to reconfigure... as much as i do... i have still same problems. :(
[11:35] <shiggz> ok wtf
[11:35] <shiggz> >_>
[11:35] <robotgeek> blackshell: hmm, i have no clue about what your driver is, best to choose vesa, i think
[11:36] <blackshell> i think i have this problem
[11:36] <blackshell> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/31009
[11:36] <blackshell> i have exactly same problem as this one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/31009
[11:36] <shiggz> I'm trying to install the linux-wlan wireless driver and I got the freakin kernel source in the right goddamn directory etc but it STILL craps out
[11:36] <shiggz> any help
[11:36] <shiggz> ?
[11:37] <robotgeek> shiggz: ma111 ?
[11:37] <shiggz> ?
[11:37] <blackshell> robotgeek any idea how to solve that ?
[11:37] <shiggz> wha?
[11:37] <robotgeek> shiggz: try the ma11Howto on the ubuntu wiki
[11:37] <shiggz> okay
[11:37] <hellz_hunter> whats the difference between "universe" "multiverse" and "restricted" on the sources.list file?
[11:38] <robotgeek> !components
[11:38] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:41] <_admin> how can I listen to MP3 in Kubuntu? only WAVs are running here... :/
[11:41] <shiggz> meh
[11:41] <shiggz> that's for a netgear
[11:41] <Tm_T> !mp3
[11:41] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[11:41] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:41] <shiggz> I have a linksys WMP11 v4
[11:42] <shiggz> I'm sure the wlan thing would work but I can't get it to find where I put the damned kernel source
[11:42] <_admin> Tm_T: the commando "sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad" isn't working here...
[11:42] <ShdwShinobi> can anyone help me with getting my wireless card to work?
[11:43] <Red_Herring> shiggz: did you check the ubuntu wiki to see if its supported by default?
[11:43] <johannes> why dont u get automatix?
[11:43] <shiggz> Red_Herring: ya
[11:43] <shiggz> it isnt it seems
[11:43] <Red_Herring> johannes: dont use automatix
[11:43] <johannes> whx?
[11:43] <johannes> why?
[11:43] <Red_Herring> shiggz: well then what do you want to do? its incredebly hard to compile it
[11:43] <Red_Herring> !automatix
[11:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:43] <shiggz> I'm ready to compile it RH
[11:44] <shiggz> I have the sourice etc
[11:44] <shiggz> just it won't acknowledge my kernel source
[11:44] <robotgeek> shiggz: same drivers, i believe?
[11:44] <Red_Herring> shiggz: did you search the ubuntuforums for it? maybe someone did it for ubuntu
[11:44] <Red_Herring> and can tell you how
[11:44] <shiggz> yeah
[11:44] <shiggz> yea
[11:44] <blackshell> robotgeek
[11:44] <blackshell> vesa works fine
[11:44] <blackshell> thank yo
[11:44] <blackshell> ;)
[11:44] <shiggz> I don't wanna have to register though
[11:44] <robotgeek> blackshell: cool :)
[11:44] <Red_Herring> so? you dont hafta register
[11:45] <shiggz> robotgeek: it's the drivers from linux-wlan.org
[11:45] <Tm_T> _admin: did you read the whole page?
[11:45] <Red_Herring> just browse it, dont wirte anything youreself
[11:45] <_admin> i can't "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"... it says the package isn't available
[11:45] <vge> arrgh, how can i add support for text when it boots (i get blank screen atm, untill KDE starts)?
[11:45] <_admin> Tm_T: yes, i read it
[11:45] <Red_Herring> vge: install the bootsplash
[11:45] <DeBert> Can you guys advise me on what webcam to get for linux? With good sound preferably...
[11:45] <_admin> Tm_T: any commands are working
[11:45] <Red_Herring> kubuntu-artwork-bootsplash i believe
[11:45] <robotgeek> _admin: apparently not, cause you havent enabled multiverse
[11:46] <_admin> robotgeek: and how can I enable it?
[11:46] <robotgeek> shiggz, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:46] <blackshell> thank you robotgeek ;) i have one more question, well i am newbei to kubuntu... is it hard to set wirless ? i am running this kubuntu in virtual machine... + does kubuntu update itselfs?
[11:46] <vge> Red_Herring: are you referring a kernel or apt-get?
[11:46] <Red_Herring> apt-get
[11:46] <Tm_T> oh man...
[11:46] <Tm_T> gone ->
[11:46] <robotgeek> blackshell: depends on your card
[11:47] <robotgeek> _admin: open adept, manage repositories, right click and enable?
[11:47] <vge> Red_Herring: well i get blank screen after grup starts the loading pricedure untill GUI starts?
[11:47] <Barbelos> Soooo.... My second day with kubuntu, and now I want to know where to get the source packages for the debs I download... Any easy way? I want to rebuild mplayer...
[11:47] <_admin> robotgeek: gonna try, thank you :)
[11:47] <robotgeek> Barbelos: apt-get source <package>
[11:48] <Red_Herring> vge: if you install kubuntu-artwork-uspash, or maybe its bootspash, one of those is the screen when the kernel boots
[11:48] <Barbelos> robotgeek: oh... thanks - so easy :D
[11:48] <shiggz> robotgeek: I did that and then: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[11:48] <johannes> @<Red_Herring>: ok, thx; i didt know but it came with breezy in version5.5.5.
[11:49] <vge> Red_Herring:  but the bootsplash works on this 2.6.10 kernel so i tought its a kernel option?
[11:49] <robotgeek> shiggz: build-essential
[11:50] <johannes> where would i find a complete list of the rooms here? (i knoe /list)
[11:51] <vge> Red_Herring: kubuntu-artwork-usplash is allready installed, but it wont load up on my 2.6.17-rl1 kernel? :/
[11:51] <Red_Herring> vge: reconfigure?
[11:51] <Red_Herring> dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[11:52] <vge> well ill try, but i still dont know why cant i get to irc on that kernel version? :/
[11:52] <Red_Herring> that *is* odd, but oh well
[11:53] <shiggz> okay yay
[11:53] <shiggz> it installed
[11:56] <Barbelos> Hmmm...


[00:45] <bryce> I got an error attempting to create a ubuntu-mobile fset (bug 182169)
[00:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 182169 in moblin-image-creator ""Unexpected error: Internal error" attempting to build a ubuntu-mobile fset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182169
[00:56] <raji> asac, Could you share purpose of 'Create New Wireless Network' option of nm-applet. This feature doesnt work on our drivers. The dialog asks for Network Name (says creates a unencrypted network), does it expect a unencrypted AP nearby to create a network? I could not get any details on gnome website for this feature, please help.
[00:56] <mjg59> It creates an ad-hoc network
[01:03] <asac> raji: right ... it should create an ad-hoc network for you.
[12:49] <riczhao> Hi, Is it possible to build UME for arm using qemubuilder?
[12:53] <StevenK> Ubuntu (Mobile or otherwise) doesn't run on ARM, currently.
[13:00] <riczhao> I know that, I just want to find a way to cross build things not using scratchbox or OE.
[13:00] <StevenK> Oh right. I have no idea about cross-compilation.
[13:01] <riczhao> Will ubuntu support arm in future?
[13:02] <StevenK> I have no idea about that, either.
[13:02] <riczhao> StevenK, Thanks!
[13:03] <StevenK> riczhao: Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[18:27] <\sh> moins
[18:29] <\sh> does anyone know if adilson is working on a new hildon patch for galculator (new upstream 1.3.1?)


[02:11] <charliemac> How can I fix a "(initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs" error message?
[02:41] <charliemac> Just used pendrivelinux.com's UniversalUSBInstaller and it worked better than UNetbootin, apparently...
[02:41] <charliemac> Now how can I verify the installer?
[02:44] <head_victim> charliemac: before you continue further you are going to need to be able to boot of USB, you've mentioned previously you don't have this function?
[02:45] <charliemac> Strangely, when xubuntu installation failed, it still enabled me to boot from usb, but only after attempting to boot xubuntu each time
[02:46] <head_victim> Ok, well if you've installed it all you need to do is boot off it, there is an option to "check for errors" so you can check it from within the liveUSB
[02:47] <charliemac> Scratch that, it's now giving me an  "(initramfs) Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs" error message
[02:48] <head_victim> I've not seen that before sorry, you might try the mailing list or see if anyone comes along that knos more than I do
[03:14] <charliemac> Sounds like a plan, thanks.
[05:55] <bioterror> hoh
[05:56] <bioterror> that casper says to look for cdrom, made something wrong :D
[05:56] <bioterror> hard to mount stuff if os boots from usb and it thinks the stuff is in cdrom :D
[11:31] <mmaksimov> Hi. Does any release schedule exist for 11.04? Is it available on lubuntu wiki?
[11:32] <bioterror> yes
[11:32] <stlsaint> bioterror: yo
[11:32] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[11:34] <charliemac> Does anyone know where to get the Lubuntu 10.10 kernel?  I'm trying the <http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html> method for installing without USB/CD/Floppy.
[11:35] <wolfpack> bioterror: is the same scheduled followed for lubuntu also ?
[11:37] <bioterror> www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/lubuntu-11-04-gets-a-release-schedule/
[11:37] <bioterror> im lazy
[12:16] <mmaksimov> bioterror, thanks for your laziness, it is quite helpful ;)
[12:21] <bioterror> np
[15:04] <VAT> Hello. Works the QVWM (win95-lookalike) on lubuntu? the file is a scr.rpm.
[15:05] <VAT> I have install lubuntu, and im very pleased with it. Right now i want to install a win95 desktop theme :) Do you know an win95 desktop theme who is better that QVWM?
[15:08] <stlsaint> no
[15:08] <stlsaint> sorry
[15:09] <VAT> Okej, i just take QVWM then ;)
[15:09] <VAT> QVWM is old, but i hope it works stabel lika a tabel :)
[15:10] <stlsaint> lol
[15:10] <stlsaint> you mean "table"
[15:14] <VAT> The latest update of QVWM is 10 yers old :O
[15:16] <stlsaint> wow
[15:44] <szczur> VAT, try IceWM > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWM
[15:44] <szczur> at least it gets more updates
[15:54] <VAT> But QVWM it's more like WIN95, then IceWM :p
[17:00] <Henflin> hi
[17:00] <Henflin> i just burned the lubuntu10.10.iso file
[17:00] <Henflin> but after running the CD
[17:01] <Henflin> there comes up the Ubuntu installation
[17:01] <Henflin> why?
[17:01] <bioterror> ?
[17:01] <bioterror> lubuntu uses the same ubiasdyuiasdoiasd
[17:02] <Henflin> ah I see
[17:03] <Henflin> ok
[17:03] <Henflin> what should I choose as an desktop environment? ubuntu / kubuntu /xubuntu  / mythbuntu?
[17:04] <Henflin> lubuntu is not listed there
[17:04] <bioterror> what?
[17:04] <bioterror> do you have lubuntu desktop?
[17:05] <Henflin> nah I just wanted to run the cd Ive burn on my win7 computer to see the installation menu
[17:05] <Henflin> my laptop where I want to install lubuntu comes next week .. isnt here yet
[17:05] <Henflin> :
[17:05] <Henflin> :)
[17:06] <bioterror> well
[17:06] <bioterror> lubuntu is a livecd just like every other
[17:06] <bioterror> unless you take alternative
[17:07] <Henflin> is this download correct for my purpose? http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1010-released
[17:08] <Henflin> (installation on my laptop hdd)
[17:09] <bioterror> yes
[17:09] <Henflin> good
[17:09] <bioterror> that should be, atleast I've used it many times :D
[17:09] <Henflin> ^^
[17:10] <Henflin> well strange that the installation menu which comes up after running the burned CD shows ubuntu desktop environment
[17:10] <bioterror> should not
[17:11] <bioterror> http://gilir.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/lubuntu-10-10-1.png it should look like that
[17:11] <Henflin> thas my screenshot http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8185/unbenanntxj.jpg
[17:11] <bioterror> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/lubuntu1010beta-large_001.jpg more exact
[17:11] <bioterror> what?
[17:11] <Henflin> ah yea but I wont install it now
[17:11] <bioterror> wtf is that?
[17:12] <szczur> it's wubi
[17:12] <Henflin> this is just the installation auto run menu
[17:12] <szczur> reboot your pc and boot from cd
[17:12] <bioterror> windows adn what
[17:12] <bioterror> yeah
[17:12] <Henflin> yep
[17:12] <Henflin> ah I see
[17:12] <Henflin> so My mistake
[17:12] <Henflin> thanks
[17:12] <bioterror> :D
[17:12] <szczur> don't know if wubi works with lubuntu
[17:12] <bioterror> seems no
[17:13] <bioterror> there's some more important things to do than support non-working installation method
[17:13] <szczur> actuallly that method works too, but i don't like it :)
[17:13] <szczur> however you can uninstall ubuntu from Add/Remove Programs
[17:14] <szczur> which is kinda funny
[17:14] <bioterror> szczur, wubi doesnt work :D
[17:14] <szczur> LIES!
[17:14] <bioterror> szczur, when comes first grub2 upgrade after installation, it's laters :D
[17:14] <szczur> ohhh
[17:15] <szczur> i used it once just for giggles
[17:15] <bioterror> I use real installations
[17:15] <bioterror> but I've heard people uses vm's for giggles :D
[17:15] <szczur> wanted to see what's that, boot up ubuntu, looked around and installed it normal way
[17:16] <szczur> is that true that lu8buntu will look like this in natty?
[17:16] <szczur> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Hht7VZ29XgM/TTbMgV34pNI/AAAAAAAAY1k/BNJIZ0DC7gs/s1600/ozone.png
[17:17] <szczur> one and only thing that is out of place is the CPU meter :)
[17:18] <szczur> that looks*
[17:18] <bioterror> cpu meter is horrible
[17:18] <szczur> but it works :)
[17:18] <bioterror> I'm not sure if that looks cool or not
[17:19] <bioterror> hard to decide
[17:19] <bioterror> let's say that it's good looking desktop :D
[17:19] <szczur> :)
[17:19] <szczur> yeah, that's true
[17:19] <szczur> that's why i'm asking
[17:19]  * bioterror pets wmaker <3
[17:20] <szczur> i read about it on polish l;inux blog about ubuntu
[17:20] <szczur> and wanted to confront it with reality :)
[17:20] <szczur> wmmaker looks like from 1980's :>
[17:20] <bioterror> !
[17:21] <szczur> j/k
[17:23] <bioterror> I think if I look that new theme for like 2 hours, it will look good in my eyes after all
[17:23] <bioterror> it's just that we are used to that 10.10 sleek looks
[17:28] <Henflin> thx :)
[17:40] <szh> There's no link to the FAQ in the Wiki.
[17:41] <szh> What's the URL?
[17:42] <bioterror> that's becouse it is still under work
[17:42] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[17:42] <bioterror> it's just my raw version
[17:43] <szh> Thanks!
[17:44] <bioterror> that was fast :D
[17:52] <gnewb> I got the Marvel working, but it is weak.
[17:53] <bioterror> that's marvelous! ;)
[17:54] <gnewb> I will post the outputs on the Forums for others. /note to self: register or re-register on LXDE forums....
[17:55] <gnewb> I did purchase a Star Tech card, it works with Debian, Ubuntu, LXDE, $17.80 at Office Depot.
[17:57] <gnewb> It was just a challenge that I wanted to solve, so I did.
[17:57] <bioterror> that's a rewarding feeling, I know ;)
[17:57] <gnewb> Is what computer geeks live for!
[17:59] <gnewb> Now I have to give these three other boxes to some kid that wants to learn about Hardware, they will all be loaded with a fresh Lubuntu install.
[17:59] <bioterror> nice
[17:59] <bioterror> there's always someone needing a pc
[18:00] <gnewb> Yes, and learning is better than just here is your system, now buy $1000 in software so it might work.
[18:03] <gnewb> back to hacking, have fun!
[22:05] <MrChrisDruif> I'll ask it again, the only way to get a 64-bit Lubuntu is with the mini-iso? And what steps should I go about to install it?
[22:06] <MrChrisDruif> Do I have to add an PPA before I can install Lubuntu with the mini-iso?
[22:07] <MrChrisDruif> nm....found it on a website
[23:12] <phillw> MrChrisDruif: it IS covered on the support page, it's why we write them :\
[23:13] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, I found it on some wiki.ubuntu page...
[23:51] <szh> I installed Lubuntu on a new partition and I have Windows 7 on the other one. I like Lubuntu a lot and I want to use it 98% of the time. Therefore, I would like to remove space from the Windows partition and add it to the Lubuntu partition. What tool is good for this? Thanks!
[23:51] <MrChrisDruif> szh: you've got multiple options here :)
[23:52] <szh> OK. What are some of them?
[23:53] <MrChrisDruif> You can reduce the size of the W7 partition from within W7 (more safe, but Windows likes to keep more space to himself) or from within Lubuntu (at least with gparted)/maybe better to use liveCD
[23:53] <szh> Does the live cd have gparted on it or do I need to install it?
[23:55] <MrChrisDruif> LiveCD comes with a partition tool. I don't know if it's Gparted by default...
[23:55] <szh> OK
[23:55] <szh> Thanks
[23:55] <MrChrisDruif> Anyone else how knows it?
[23:58] <szczur> livcd have gparted already installed
[23:58] <szczur> don't know if gparted is able to resize ntfs partitions
[23:59] <szczur> yes, it can do it